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nixternalmdke: http://www.nixternal.com   THANKS!01:09
mdkenice job01:09
robnew domain name?01:09
mdkeI recommend the one-click install system if you're looking for wordpress, or similar01:09
nixternalya, im going to setup wordpress in a bit01:10
Admiral_Chicagowordpress is slow imo01:10
nixternalim trying to create my own theme, but i think i would do better as a brain surgeon right now01:10
Admiral_Chicagoi use it for a web log i keep.01:10
robbah, works fine for me01:10
nixternaljust turn off the wysiwyg editor in wordpress and it is great..w/o a doubt the best blogger i have used to date01:10
nixternalya rob, finally broke down and got my own domain, only because of mdke's great offer blogged at http://www.mdke.org :)  (shameless plug)01:11
robheh01:11
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mdkeI've reduced the offer now01:11
mdkeso if any more people sign up, I will get a cut01:12
mdkestill, it's an excellent discount01:12
nixternalrock on01:12
nixternalooh. i have subversion too :)01:12
robI do get free hosting though, unlimited, and $2/month for unlimited pop3 mailboxes, so I can't complain01:12
nixternalheck no rob, that is a great deal01:12
nixternali really like the imap feature with dreamhost as well01:12
robbut, thats through a friend of a friend01:13
=== mdke hugs imap
nixternalya, imap is great when working with multiple computers01:13
nixternalhowever, i have kind of starting using my new laptop as the main setup01:13
Admiral_Chicagobtw nixternal i found out what was hapenning with the lappy01:14
nixternalwith the wifi?01:14
mdkedreamhost has fairly good webmail too01:14
Admiral_Chicagoubuntu doesn't se wl0 at all01:14
Admiral_Chicagoyea01:14
nixternalya, im looking at the webmail now..it looks similar to what comcast uses01:14
Admiral_Chicagolspci shows the hardware but there is only eth0, no wl001:14
Admiral_Chicagonot sure how to fix it yet\01:15
Admiral_Chicagothe drivers are installed and work though01:15
nixternalodd it is using wl0 and not eth1 with ndiswrapper, but that is for another channel :)01:15
mdkenixternal: could the switching from windows guides for ubuntu and kubuntu be merged, do you think?01:15
mdkeas in, do you think it is a good idea?01:15
nixternalhmm. i think it can be merged, but it would become a fairly large document01:16
mdkewell, most is common between them, presumably?01:16
nixternalthe only thing that will pretty much be the same would be the office portions, however there is a lot of common....you got it :)01:17
mdkewell, the early chapters01:17
nixternaltrue01:17
mdkemull it over01:18
robotgeekwell, i'm back!01:18
nixternalit would be a very easy document if we did all command line :)01:18
mdkeah, welcome back robotgeek01:18
nixternalwelcome back robotgeek !!!01:18
robotgeekty01:18
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Admiral_Chicagobtw nixternal i'm free for an hour or so, any work you want me to do?01:19
nixternalwe could create a Synaptic chapter and an Adept chapter and link installation notes from the other chapters to them01:19
crimsun_it would be a good idea to merge such work.01:19
nixternalya crimsun_, i kind of feel the same way as well. at first i was a bit of a seperatist, but now that I understand "Ubuntu" it is all about the togetherness :)01:20
mdkenixternal: or, make those chapters alternatives, so build one version for Ubuntu, another for Kubuntu01:20
nixternalya, i know that was corny01:20
mdkeI need to investigate whether that is possible01:20
mdkefroud would know...01:20
nixternali think it is possible. i mean, jjesse has been working on the adept guide again, so linking to that would be easy01:21
mdkefroud: do you know if it's possible to develop docbook which is profiled, and then generate non-profiled xml for each profile via xmllint?01:21
nixternalmdke: did you take a look at kubuntu/C/games/new_games.xml to see if that is how we might go with breaking up the "Questions"?01:22
robotgeekhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/Sr6j9E38.html would be nice, i think01:23
robotgeekhowever, writing content might be difficult with this format, but makes sharing easier01:23
mdkenixternal: well, you should have a sect1 for each game, rather than a sect201:23
nixternalrobotgeek: that isn't a bad idea, and then we could actually turn that into a TBH document quite easily as well01:24
mdkebut otherwise, looks promising01:24
nixternalok. i think i did sect1 for each question..i have to look again01:24
mdkerobotgeek: yeah, that's what I mean by profiling01:24
robotgeekmdke: oh okay. i'm just a poor doc writer :)01:24
mdkenixternal: stop saying "question" to describe things that aren't questions!!01:24
mdkerobotgeek: dude, we just used two different ways to say the same thing, I don't know anything about it, except that it can be done01:25
robotgeek:)01:25
nixternalwell, i broke it into common questions. i.e., Where are the games?, since Kubuntu doesn't come with games pre-installed01:25
nixternalor should i just do a sect1 with the topic "Installing games in Kubuntu"01:26
mdkeoh, I didn't update. /smacks01:26
nixternallol01:26
mdkebut don't use questions, we abandoned them on purpose a couple of releases back01:26
nixternalok, how about "common topics" then?01:26
mdkenixternal: do an introduction for the front page, then a section per game, I think.01:28
nixternalok, that is easy enough01:29
mdkeyou can build on games.xml01:29
mdkedefinitely don't use questions as section titles01:29
nixternalalright. i will work that up and commit later, so when you wake up you should have something to look at :)01:29
mdkeheh. and an arbitration to go to01:29
nixternalwell, i started the new_games.xml as an idea01:29
mdkemerge em :)01:29
nixternalcool01:30
mdkegood night01:30
nixternalg'nite sir, and thanks again!01:30
robotgeeknight mdke01:30
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nixternali can hear him causing trouble01:30
robotgeeknixternal: working on trunk or topic-based-help branch, for kubuntu01:33
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robotgeeki meant that as a question, btw!01:34
nixternalheh01:35
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robotgeeknixternal: so is the kubuntu stuff in trunk or tbh?01:48
nixternaltrunk/kubuntu/C01:49
nixternalthat is the beginnings of tbh01:49
ryanakcacan I take over bug 76320 , bug 76315  and bug 76312 ?02:51
UbugtuMalone bug 76320 in doc-linux "doc-linux-html is messy and inconsistent" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7632002:51
UbugtuMalone bug 76315 in doc-linux "Some -HOWTOs have been removed" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7631502:51
UbugtuMalone bug 76312 in doc-linux "doc-linux-html includes files that automatically open pages online" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7631202:51
ryanakca76312 can be confirmed as well, just waiting to know if I should assign it to myself while I'm at it02:52
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nixternalissue Madpilot?08:28
Madpilotnixternal, you mean the klines? Not sure wtf is going on08:29
nixternalnalioth would be my first bet on that one :)08:29
Madpilotfirst one was due to testing the D C C thing in #ubuntu-ops & getting zapped by nalioth's auto-script08:29
nixternalahh08:29
Madpilotnot sure what the the 2nd & 3rd ones are for...08:29
Madpilotapparently the autokill script is now working in -ops too, it didn't used to be08:30
nixternali wonder if he did that purposely or on accident08:30
Madpilotno clue08:31
Madpilotusers who get dropped by D C C attacks in #ubuntu are redirected to #ubuntu-read-topic & then to -ops so we can test to make sure they've fixed their problem08:32
Madpilotrunning D C C is needed to test the fix, obviously, and running that in -ops itself never used to be a problem...08:32
nixternalahh08:32
mdkemorning09:09
Madpilothi mdke09:10
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mdkenixternal: thinking about games.xml, I thought maybe you could explore trying a sect1 for each *group* of games, i.e. each type. Dunno if that's workeable or not. also, grab some material from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games09:35
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ryanakcacan I take over bug 76320 , bug 76315  and bug 76312 ?12:50
ryanakca[20:49]  <Ubugtu> Malone bug 76320 in doc-linux "doc-linux-html is messy and inconsistent" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7632012:51
ryanakca[20:49]  <Ubugtu> Malone bug 76315 in doc-linux "Some -HOWTOs have been removed" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7631512:51
ryanakca[20:49]  <Ubugtu> Malone bug 76312 in doc-linux "doc-linux-html includes files that automatically open pages online" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7631212:51
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nixternalmdke: when you say section, you mean like Arcade, Cards, Table, etc. or do you mean like KDE Games, GNOME Games, etc.?05:11
nixternaland the h.u.c/c/games is a horrid page05:11
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willvdlhey folks.05:54
willvdlwhat should I do with pages like https://wiki.edubuntu.org/%e9%a6%96%e9%a0%81?05:55
willvdlseems to be an attempted translation of our edubuntu wiki frontpage05:55
willvdlthat stopped after the title was translated05:55
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Admiral_Chicagocontact WillVanDerLeij but you're gone already...06:18
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mr_pouitBurgwork: ping about medibuntu ? bapoumba told me that you would be interested to add it in the ubuntu wiki (to replace debian-multimedia), but that you still have some questions.08:17
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mdkenixternal: both, I suppose.08:50
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nixternalok, i see.08:51
mdkeuse your discretion!08:52
mdkeI'm told the new ubuntu-docs package is uploaded now, so you should get it in feisty09:38
ryanakcanixternal: kk, ty, should I redownload all the howtos from TLDP in a .tar.gz and add an index page for them all?10:06
ryanakcaor just work with the current ones?10:09
mdkenixternal: the Ubuntu version of games.xml is in relatively good shape. Have a look at that, and maybe add to it :) I like the idea of having that file the same for Ubuntu and Kubuntu... after all, kde games work fine in Gnome, and vice versa10:15
nixternal+110:31
ryanakcanixternal: can you do me a favor and send me an encrypted e-mail? I'm testing kmail see if gpg decryption works now..10:44
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nixternalryanakca: gpg key?10:57
nixternalgrrr...lp prolly has it10:58
ryanakcapub   1024D/E95EDDC9 2006-02-2210:58
ryanakcadid you get that notice with my mailing lists e-mail?10:58
nixternalattempting to get the key now10:59
ryanakcakk11:00
nixternalsent11:04
nixternali think i did that right11:04
nixternali need to do some key cleaning it seems11:04
ryanakcahttp://rkavanagh.homelinux.org/E95EDDC9.gpg11:04
ryanakcalol11:04
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ryanakcaerm... nope11:05
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Lutinhello Burgwork11:19
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