[01:09] <nixternal> mdke: http://www.nixternal.com   THANKS!
[01:09] <mdke> nice job
[01:09] <rob> new domain name?
[01:09] <mdke> I recommend the one-click install system if you're looking for wordpress, or similar
[01:10] <nixternal> ya, im going to setup wordpress in a bit
[01:10] <Admiral_Chicago> wordpress is slow imo
[01:10] <nixternal> im trying to create my own theme, but i think i would do better as a brain surgeon right now
[01:10] <Admiral_Chicago> i use it for a web log i keep.
[01:10] <rob> bah, works fine for me
[01:10] <nixternal> just turn off the wysiwyg editor in wordpress and it is great..w/o a doubt the best blogger i have used to date
[01:11] <nixternal> ya rob, finally broke down and got my own domain, only because of mdke's great offer blogged at http://www.mdke.org :)  (shameless plug)
[01:11] <rob> heh
[01:11] <mdke> I've reduced the offer now
[01:12] <mdke> so if any more people sign up, I will get a cut
[01:12] <mdke> still, it's an excellent discount
[01:12] <nixternal> rock on
[01:12] <nixternal> ooh. i have subversion too :)
[01:12] <rob> I do get free hosting though, unlimited, and $2/month for unlimited pop3 mailboxes, so I can't complain
[01:12] <nixternal> heck no rob, that is a great deal
[01:12] <nixternal> i really like the imap feature with dreamhost as well
[01:13] <rob> but, thats through a friend of a friend
[01:13] <nixternal> ya, imap is great when working with multiple computers
[01:13] <nixternal> however, i have kind of starting using my new laptop as the main setup
[01:14] <Admiral_Chicago> btw nixternal i found out what was hapenning with the lappy
[01:14] <nixternal> with the wifi?
[01:14] <mdke> dreamhost has fairly good webmail too
[01:14] <Admiral_Chicago> ubuntu doesn't se wl0 at all
[01:14] <Admiral_Chicago> yea
[01:14] <nixternal> ya, im looking at the webmail now..it looks similar to what comcast uses
[01:14] <Admiral_Chicago> lspci shows the hardware but there is only eth0, no wl0
[01:15] <Admiral_Chicago> not sure how to fix it yet\
[01:15] <Admiral_Chicago> the drivers are installed and work though
[01:15] <nixternal> odd it is using wl0 and not eth1 with ndiswrapper, but that is for another channel :)
[01:15] <mdke> nixternal: could the switching from windows guides for ubuntu and kubuntu be merged, do you think?
[01:15] <mdke> as in, do you think it is a good idea?
[01:16] <nixternal> hmm. i think it can be merged, but it would become a fairly large document
[01:16] <mdke> well, most is common between them, presumably?
[01:17] <nixternal> the only thing that will pretty much be the same would be the office portions, however there is a lot of common....you got it :)
[01:17] <mdke> well, the early chapters
[01:17] <nixternal> true
[01:18] <mdke> mull it over
[01:18] <robotgeek> well, i'm back!
[01:18] <nixternal> it would be a very easy document if we did all command line :)
[01:18] <mdke> ah, welcome back robotgeek
[01:18] <nixternal> welcome back robotgeek !!!
[01:18] <robotgeek> ty
[01:19] <Admiral_Chicago> btw nixternal i'm free for an hour or so, any work you want me to do?
[01:19] <nixternal> we could create a Synaptic chapter and an Adept chapter and link installation notes from the other chapters to them
[01:19] <crimsun_> it would be a good idea to merge such work.
[01:20] <nixternal> ya crimsun_, i kind of feel the same way as well. at first i was a bit of a seperatist, but now that I understand "Ubuntu" it is all about the togetherness :)
[01:20] <mdke> nixternal: or, make those chapters alternatives, so build one version for Ubuntu, another for Kubuntu
[01:20] <nixternal> ya, i know that was corny
[01:20] <mdke> I need to investigate whether that is possible
[01:20] <mdke> froud would know...
[01:21] <nixternal> i think it is possible. i mean, jjesse has been working on the adept guide again, so linking to that would be easy
[01:21] <mdke> froud: do you know if it's possible to develop docbook which is profiled, and then generate non-profiled xml for each profile via xmllint?
[01:22] <nixternal> mdke: did you take a look at kubuntu/C/games/new_games.xml to see if that is how we might go with breaking up the "Questions"?
[01:23] <robotgeek> http://rafb.net/paste/results/Sr6j9E38.html would be nice, i think
[01:23] <robotgeek> however, writing content might be difficult with this format, but makes sharing easier
[01:23] <mdke> nixternal: well, you should have a sect1 for each game, rather than a sect2
[01:24] <nixternal> robotgeek: that isn't a bad idea, and then we could actually turn that into a TBH document quite easily as well
[01:24] <mdke> but otherwise, looks promising
[01:24] <nixternal> ok. i think i did sect1 for each question..i have to look again
[01:24] <mdke> robotgeek: yeah, that's what I mean by profiling
[01:24] <robotgeek> mdke: oh okay. i'm just a poor doc writer :)
[01:24] <mdke> nixternal: stop saying "question" to describe things that aren't questions!!
[01:25] <mdke> robotgeek: dude, we just used two different ways to say the same thing, I don't know anything about it, except that it can be done
[01:25] <robotgeek> :)
[01:25] <nixternal> well, i broke it into common questions. i.e., Where are the games?, since Kubuntu doesn't come with games pre-installed
[01:26] <nixternal> or should i just do a sect1 with the topic "Installing games in Kubuntu"
[01:26] <mdke> oh, I didn't update. /smacks
[01:26] <nixternal> lol
[01:26] <mdke> but don't use questions, we abandoned them on purpose a couple of releases back
[01:26] <nixternal> ok, how about "common topics" then?
[01:28] <mdke> nixternal: do an introduction for the front page, then a section per game, I think.
[01:29] <nixternal> ok, that is easy enough
[01:29] <mdke> you can build on games.xml
[01:29] <mdke> definitely don't use questions as section titles
[01:29] <nixternal> alright. i will work that up and commit later, so when you wake up you should have something to look at :)
[01:29] <mdke> heh. and an arbitration to go to
[01:29] <nixternal> well, i started the new_games.xml as an idea
[01:29] <mdke> merge em :)
[01:30] <nixternal> cool
[01:30] <mdke> good night
[01:30] <nixternal> g'nite sir, and thanks again!
[01:30] <robotgeek> night mdke
[01:30] <nixternal> i can hear him causing trouble
[01:33] <robotgeek> nixternal: working on trunk or topic-based-help branch, for kubuntu
[01:34] <robotgeek> i meant that as a question, btw!
[01:35] <nixternal> heh
[01:48] <robotgeek> nixternal: so is the kubuntu stuff in trunk or tbh?
[01:49] <nixternal> trunk/kubuntu/C
[01:49] <nixternal> that is the beginnings of tbh
[02:51] <ryanakca> can I take over bug 76320 , bug 76315  and bug 76312 ?
[02:51] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 76320 in doc-linux "doc-linux-html is messy and inconsistent" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/76320
[02:51] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 76315 in doc-linux "Some -HOWTOs have been removed" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/76315
[02:51] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 76312 in doc-linux "doc-linux-html includes files that automatically open pages online" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/76312
[02:52] <ryanakca> 76312 can be confirmed as well, just waiting to know if I should assign it to myself while I'm at it
[08:28] <nixternal> issue Madpilot?
[08:29] <Madpilot> nixternal, you mean the klines? Not sure wtf is going on
[08:29] <nixternal> nalioth would be my first bet on that one :)
[08:29] <Madpilot> first one was due to testing the D C C thing in #ubuntu-ops & getting zapped by nalioth's auto-script
[08:29] <nixternal> ahh
[08:29] <Madpilot> not sure what the the 2nd & 3rd ones are for...
[08:30] <Madpilot> apparently the autokill script is now working in -ops too, it didn't used to be
[08:30] <nixternal> i wonder if he did that purposely or on accident
[08:31] <Madpilot> no clue
[08:32] <Madpilot> users who get dropped by D C C attacks in #ubuntu are redirected to #ubuntu-read-topic & then to -ops so we can test to make sure they've fixed their problem
[08:32] <Madpilot> running D C C is needed to test the fix, obviously, and running that in -ops itself never used to be a problem...
[08:32] <nixternal> ahh
[09:09] <mdke> morning
[09:10] <Madpilot> hi mdke
[09:35] <mdke> nixternal: thinking about games.xml, I thought maybe you could explore trying a sect1 for each *group* of games, i.e. each type. Dunno if that's workeable or not. also, grab some material from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games
[12:50] <ryanakca> can I take over bug 76320 , bug 76315  and bug 76312 ?
[12:51] <ryanakca> [20:49]  <Ubugtu> Malone bug 76320 in doc-linux "doc-linux-html is messy and inconsistent" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/76320
[12:51] <ryanakca> [20:49]  <Ubugtu> Malone bug 76315 in doc-linux "Some -HOWTOs have been removed" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/76315
[12:51] <ryanakca> [20:49]  <Ubugtu> Malone bug 76312 in doc-linux "doc-linux-html includes files that automatically open pages online" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/76312
[05:11] <nixternal> mdke: when you say section, you mean like Arcade, Cards, Table, etc. or do you mean like KDE Games, GNOME Games, etc.?
[05:11] <nixternal> and the h.u.c/c/games is a horrid page
[05:54] <willvdl> hey folks.
[05:55] <willvdl> what should I do with pages like https://wiki.edubuntu.org/%e9%a6%96%e9%a0%81?
[05:55] <willvdl> seems to be an attempted translation of our edubuntu wiki frontpage
[05:55] <willvdl> that stopped after the title was translated
[06:18] <Admiral_Chicago> contact WillVanDerLeij but you're gone already...
[08:17] <mr_pouit> Burgwork: ping about medibuntu ? bapoumba told me that you would be interested to add it in the ubuntu wiki (to replace debian-multimedia), but that you still have some questions.
[08:50] <mdke> nixternal: both, I suppose.
[08:51] <nixternal> ok, i see.
[08:52] <mdke> use your discretion!
[09:38] <mdke> I'm told the new ubuntu-docs package is uploaded now, so you should get it in feisty
[10:06] <ryanakca> nixternal: kk, ty, should I redownload all the howtos from TLDP in a .tar.gz and add an index page for them all?
[10:09] <ryanakca> or just work with the current ones?
[10:15] <mdke> nixternal: the Ubuntu version of games.xml is in relatively good shape. Have a look at that, and maybe add to it :) I like the idea of having that file the same for Ubuntu and Kubuntu... after all, kde games work fine in Gnome, and vice versa
[10:31] <nixternal> +1
[10:44] <ryanakca> nixternal: can you do me a favor and send me an encrypted e-mail? I'm testing kmail see if gpg decryption works now..
[10:57] <nixternal> ryanakca: gpg key?
[10:58] <nixternal> grrr...lp prolly has it
[10:58] <ryanakca> pub   1024D/E95EDDC9 2006-02-22
[10:58] <ryanakca> did you get that notice with my mailing lists e-mail?
[10:59] <nixternal> attempting to get the key now
[11:00] <ryanakca> kk
[11:04] <nixternal> sent
[11:04] <nixternal> i think i did that right
[11:04] <nixternal> i need to do some key cleaning it seems
[11:04] <ryanakca> http://rkavanagh.homelinux.org/E95EDDC9.gpg
[11:04] <ryanakca> lol
[11:05] <ryanakca> erm... nope
[11:19] <Lutin> hello Burgwork