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sistpotycrimsun_: do you want to look over sru bug #72951 again, or can I take your previous +1 and upload to -proposed?12:16
UbugtuMalone bug 72951 in dosemu "[SRU]  dosemu (dapper)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7295112:16
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crimsun_sistpoty: +112:17
sistpotycrimsun_: thx... uploading12:17
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sistpotyjdong: did you backport dosemu-freedos (bug #73056) to edgy and dapper or only to edgy?12:32
UbugtuMalone bug 73056 in dapper-backports "dosemu-freedos (dapper and most probably edgy)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7305612:32
jdongsistpoty: not yet, but soon :)12:32
sistpotyjdong: thanks!12:34
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ryanakcacan someone please review http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3820 ?12:49
Adri2000ryanakca: you don't need all of that in the copyright file12:50
Adri2000look at other packages to see what you need12:51
Adri2000ryanakca: and you can remove the commented and blank lines at the end12:52
ryanakcakk12:52
tsmithei wish i got revu's that quickly12:53
ryanakcaAdri2000: while I fix that, anything else?12:54
tsmithei have four packages which need revuing12:54
Adri2000ryanakca: just looking quickly at the diff.gz, no :)12:55
tsmithebut i only want two of them looked at12:55
tsmithethe others are wip12:55
tsmithe(crimsun_ knows why)12:55
ryanakcaAdri2000: uploading...12:55
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ryanakcadone12:55
ryanakcatsmithe: I'm special?12:55
ryanakcalol12:55
tsmithebah12:55
tsmithehttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=372512:56
tsmithehttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=379312:56
tsmitheasoundconf-gtk12:56
tsmithesonata12:56
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tsmithethe other two are alsa-tools and alsa-firmware12:56
LaserJocktsmithe: you've done pretty ok for reviews12:56
tsmithereally?12:56
tsmitheok12:56
tsmithe:)12:56
LaserJockyeah12:56
crimsun_uh, yeah12:56
tsmithei know12:56
tsmithe:)12:56
tsmithei want uploads :P12:56
LaserJockused to take like a few weeks to maybe a month12:56
ajmitchafternoon12:57
tsmitheafternoon12:57
ryanakcaAdri2000: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3821 should be it in a couple of minutes12:57
=== PriceChild should finish his package soon
sistpotyhi ajmitch12:57
ajmitchhey sistpoty, how's it going?12:57
PriceChildhey tsmithe 12:57
tsmithehiya pricey12:57
sistpotyajmitch: so for so good... I just trashed my fs of my laptop (but it was just a fresh dapper install for sru-tests *g*)12:57
Adri2000ryanakca: cool, now you have to find a motu to check it :)12:58
tsmithecrimsun_, when you have a minute could you look over alsa-firmware and alsa-tools, though, to make sure i'm going in the right direction.12:58
ajmitchsistpoty: oh great12:58
crimsun_tsmithe: I'm in a meeting right now.12:58
tsmithei'm going to sleep now, so if you post on irc, my proxy will get it12:58
tsmitheok thanks anyway :)12:58
tsmitheyou have a lot of meetings :)12:58
ryanakcaO Great Mighty Powerful LaserJock/jmantha, http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3821 ? :D, please?12:58
ryanakcatsmithe: he's alwais in a meeting... I don't envy him...12:59
tsmitheme neither12:59
tsmithe:)12:59
geserryanakca: you want probably to build-depend on kdelibs4-dev instead of kdelibs12:59
crimsun_tsmithe: when it's someone else's money on the line, there are more meetings than you can shake a stick at12:59
tsmitheok12:59
ryanakcageser: kk12:59
tsmithesomeone else's.......12:59
ryanakcas/3821/3822 in a sec12:59
tsmithenight all01:00
ryanakcauploading...01:00
ryanakcadone01:01
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ryanakcageser:  http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3822 when revu updates it's web interface01:01
ryanakcageser: REVU updated, http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3822 is the updated link :) (thanks, btw)01:03
geserryanakca: you can remove kdelibs from Build-depends as you now have kdelibs4-dev there01:06
LaserJockthe permissions on the source dir are funky or something01:06
LaserJockI can't go into it on REVU01:06
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ajmitchLaserJock: which dir?01:09
LaserJocksolseek-0.8a01:09
LaserJockI get a Forbidden01:10
ajmitchdrwxr-x---    8 revu1    revu   4096 2006-12-18 19:00 solseek-0.8a01:10
ajmitchyeah01:10
ajmitchodd01:10
ajmitchsame permissions in the tarball, which is strange01:10
ryanakcaajmitch: LaserJock: change'em?01:10
ajmitchor it could be correct01:11
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ajmitchLaserJock: logout, log back in01:11
ajmitchah no01:11
ajmitchsorry, I thought you were doing it via the shell :)01:11
LaserJocksame01:12
ryanakcahmm...01:12
LaserJocknah, I'm just browsing01:12
ajmitchryanakca: did you recreate the tarball yourself?01:12
ryanakcaajmitch: yes, it was a .tar.bz201:12
ajmitchright01:13
ryanakcaand I have some paranoid permission defaults on my system :)01:13
ajmitchI suggest you redo it & make sure permissions are correct01:13
ajmitchbefore you break everything :)01:13
ryanakcaremake the tarball? kk01:13
ajmitchyour package may not be buildable as-is, I don't know01:13
ryanakcaby default, everything on my system is -rw-r-----01:13
sistpotyyay, my filesystem is back online :)01:14
ajmitchthat's a good sign01:15
ajmitchno uni tomorrow? :)01:15
sistpotyajmitch: sure I do..., but since I'm "only" writing my thesis, I can come in the afternoon as well *g*01:15
ryanakcaajmitch: it builds fine on my system...01:15
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ryanakcaajmitch: how do I reset default permissions? so that permissions of new files are the default ones of ubuntu? instead of the ones set by bastille?01:19
=== ryanakca chmod 744'd the source dir...
sistpotyryanakca: I guess you could do that with umask01:20
ryanakcakk01:20
Admiral_Chicagocrimsun_: iirc you packaged lsr, am i correct?01:20
crimsun_no, TheMuso does. I simply check and punt his source packages.01:21
Admiral_Chicagofor feisty that is01:21
Admiral_Chicagoah okay, well then I'll go bug him thanks01:21
Admiral_ChicagoTheMuso: got a second?01:21
crimsun_idle for >15hr? Probably away.01:22
TheMusoAdmiral_Chicago: Yo mate. Whats up?01:22
Admiral_Chicagolsr doesn't install on feisty at all01:22
TheMusoWhat happens? Is it the same as in the bug report?01:23
Admiral_Chicagonothing I've tried works, it went through accessibility a while ago01:23
tictacaddicthi, I want to make a package and I hear this is the place to start01:23
Admiral_Chicagobug #75865 01:23
UbugtuMalone bug 75865 in lsr "LSR won't install on Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7586501:23
Admiral_Chicago?01:23
crimsun_tictacaddict: see the Ubuntu Packaging Guide and the Debian Policy Manual01:24
tictacaddictcrimsun_: thanks, will do01:24
Admiral_Chicagothat one TheMuso ?01:24
TheMusoAdmiral_Chicago: Yeah I got it01:25
TheMusoIf its libbonobo2, what is there that can be done?01:25
TheMusoIt seems out of our hands as far as I can tell01:25
TheMusoThe package built successfully at the time of upload01:25
Admiral_Chicagohmm i'll check out libbonob2, maybe mail them for an update, probably something is broken01:26
TheMusoah I think I see the prob01:26
TheMusoive found the problem I believe01:26
TheMusothe libbonobo2 package has been renamed01:27
TheMusoI'll sort out a fix right now01:27
ryanakcaajmitch: LaserJock: geser: Fixed01:27
crimsun_Admiral_Chicago: -> libbonobo2-001:27
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Admiral_Chicagoah i see, so then it was pointing to the wrong package crimsun_?01:28
ryanakcahttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=382301:28
nixternali read that as libnoob2-001:28
TheMusoAdmiral_Chicago: But at the time, the libbonobo2 package wasn't what it is now.01:28
TheMusoWith the silly season upon us, I just haven't had time to look at that bug.01:29
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crimsun_give me a debdiff, I'll punt it.01:29
Admiral_Chicagosame here01:29
TheMusocrimsun_: Just a sec. Want to pbuilder it first. Tis a habbit I'm in. :)01:30
crimsun_right, testing is assumed. :)01:31
LaserJockassumed?01:33
LaserJockthat's kinda dangerous around here01:33
LaserJock:-)01:33
crimsun_the only thing dangerous round here is nixternal and his new web hosting01:35
nixternalhrmm01:35
nixternali wonder if i can launch bombs with it?01:35
Admiral_Chicagohopefully...01:35
ryanakcalol01:38
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LaserJockI'm not afraid, they'd be duds01:39
crimsun_ouch01:39
Admiral_Chicagothere are a few jokes in there that i'm not bold enough to make01:39
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nixternalhrmm. i did make bombs and take them apart for a living while in the military. only one was a dud :)01:40
LaserJockhow did you know if it was a dud?01:40
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nixternalit didn't go boom?01:41
LaserJockyeah, but who'd you try them out on? ;-)01:41
nixternaloh, some lonely hill in Quantico Virginia01:41
LaserJockhmm01:42
crimsun_are you sure it wasn't in Montana?01:42
LaserJockyeah01:42
nixternalthat would be classified01:42
LaserJockwe've got lots of land in MT01:42
nixternalwho do you work for again?01:42
LaserJockbut I'd really rather you send them NV01:42
LaserJockthis place is a hell hole01:42
LaserJockYucca Mountain here we come01:42
nixternalwell, we did some explosives testing in New Mexico as well01:42
nixternalI wasn't priviledged enough to see the aliens and ufo's in Notvada01:43
LaserJockMT has a nice patch of silos though01:43
LaserJockI see them everyday01:43
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nixternalLaserJock: how many times do I have to tell you that you should not say that about your inlaws01:43
nixternalgahahahahahha01:43
nixternalyou are bad LaserJock 01:43
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LaserJockand on that note, I'm out01:44
nixternalhaha01:44
LaserJocksee you later people, gotta go get an oil change for the minivan before we head up to MT01:44
LaserJockI won't be around for REVU Day01:45
nixternalhave fun, and be safe01:45
LaserJockbut I'll try to make it up to everybody ;-)01:45
crimsun_be safe, don't want 1/3 of our trinity croaking01:45
LaserJockhaha01:45
nixternalLaserJock: i wear a XXL, just so you knwo the size of the ubuntu tshirt that i want :)01:45
LaserJockhmm, I do have one01:46
LaserJockand an XXL Google shirt too01:46
LaserJockbut they're mine I tell you01:46
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nixternalgrrr01:46
nixternalmy ubuntu shirt is just a white t-shirt now01:46
crimsun_you should really get that checked out01:46
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LaserJocknah, I got the real deal from mds and Jane Silber dude01:46
LaserJocks/mds/mdz/01:47
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nixternali wonder when jsgotanco is gonna call..he should be in chicago any day now01:47
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Admiral_Chicago"skull panda loves kitties" is what my teeshirt says...01:48
Admiral_Chicagochillywilly: no such thing01:48
chillywillydamn FIBs ;)01:48
nixternalFIBs hahaha01:48
nixternalF'n Illinois Bastards?01:48
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chillywillyyes01:49
nixternali have heard FIPs, FIBs is a first01:49
=== ryanakca is allergic to anything south of lake ontario :)
nixternalhehe01:49
crimsun_so we'll be boycotting reviewing ryanakca's packages...01:49
ryanakcalol01:49
nixternalahh good one crimsun_ 01:49
nixternalna na na boo boo01:50
=== ryanakca guesses he'll have to bug some europeans :)
nixternalnot after i tell them what you said last week about them01:50
nixternalremember that crimsun_? :)01:51
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nixternalhaha01:51
=== tictacaddict likes Sam and Fuzzy
nixternalwhere did that one come from? hahaha01:51
ryanakcalol01:51
chillywillybumpin' fuzzies...01:51
ryanakcait's too warm down there... 01:51
=== ryanakca likes the cold... even though we have a green christmas... which is :(
chillywillyno snow here either01:52
chillywillyit's been unusually warm for December01:52
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ajmitchryanakca: then -motu wouldn't get used at all, with the S/N ratio we have here01:54
ryanakcalol01:55
chillywillyajmitchie!01:55
elkbunturyanakca, i'll swap you..a hot and smokey xmas up for grabs here :|01:57
ryanakcaick... no good for skiing01:57
ryanakcaskiing = life01:57
elkbunturyanakca, well.. the ash might make for some interesting 'snow'01:57
ryanakcaoooh? where's that?01:57
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ryanakcavolcano? forest fire?01:58
elkbunturyanakca, bushfires, yeah. australia is still on fire :(01:58
ryanakca:(01:58
ryanakcaWe had tons of forest fires in BC this year01:58
elkbuntumy eyes are stinging mad today...01:58
ryanakcado you guys have palm trees for christmas? or do you grow/import pine trees?01:59
ryanakcaI can imagine01:59
elkbuntupine trees are grown over here01:59
ajmitchelkbuntu: getting plenty of smoke there?02:00
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elkbuntuajmitch, its pretty thick in the air atm02:04
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ryanakcawhat's burning? dry plants/shrubs/bushes?02:07
elkbunturyanakca, anything that doesnt move fast enough02:07
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ryanakcaah02:07
ryanakcaelkbuntu: you busy? and a MOTU? 02:08
elkbunturyanakca, not a motu, no02:09
ryanakcakk02:09
chillywillyall motus are busy ;)02:09
sistpotyyep02:09
sistpoty:P02:09
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ryanakca4.0K drwxrw-r--   7 ryan ryan 4.0K 2006-12-18 19:24 solseek-0.8a, yet http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/solseek-0612181925/solseek-0.8a02:09
elkbunturyanakca, ajmitch spoke in the past half hour, harass him :02:10
ryanakcalol02:10
ryanakcaajmitch: I'm harrassing you, ok?02:10
=== chillywilly also harrises ajmitch
elkbuntuif he didnt hate me already, he does now02:11
ryanakcalol02:11
chillywillyajmitch makes love not war02:11
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ajmitchsigh02:12
ryanakcas/administrater/administrator02:12
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ryanakcalol02:12
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ajmitchryanakca: simple, you didn't set the +x on the directory02:12
ryanakcait needs +x? heh, ty02:12
ajmitchyes02:13
chillywillydoh02:13
chillywillyryanakca: you're fired02:13
ryanakcalol02:13
bddebianHeya gang02:13
sistpotyhi bddebian02:13
chillywillyhi bddebian 02:13
ajmitchoh good, now you can harass bddebian instead02:13
ryanakcaajmitch: want me to start a elkbuntu harrassement team for you?02:13
bddebianHi sistpoty, chillywilly, ajmitch, ryanakca02:13
ryanakcahey bddebian, KSSH ring a bell?02:13
ryanakcahehehe02:14
crimsun_hey bddebian, grits and pony?02:14
bddebianYou aren't back at that are you?02:14
elkbunturyanakca, real amount of good that would do you02:14
bddebianHeya crimsun_02:14
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ryanakcanote to all: KSSH is your worst enemy02:14
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bddebianheh02:15
zulhey02:16
chillywillyho02:16
bddebianHeya zul02:17
chillywillythere is only zul02:17
chillywillyI should finish my mirroring script and add Edgy to it02:18
ryanakcaoh bddebian... http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3824 :D02:25
ryanakcadon't worry, it isn't AS evil as the last one I had :)02:25
bddebianheh02:26
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sistpotycan anyone sponsor me an upload for main (bug #62831)02:48
UbugtuMalone bug 62831 in dosfstools "fsck.vfat truncates files of 4294967295 bytes length to 0 bytes at boot-time" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6283102:48
sistpoty?02:48
crimsun_sistpoty: confirmed to fix it?02:49
sistpotycrimsun_: I've been doing nothing else this evening... ;)02:50
sistpotycrimsun_: though I'm not exactly sure if it fixes *all* integer overflow issues with dosfsck... (but I read through the sources twice)02:50
crimsun_https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/dosfstools/+bug/62831/comments/602:52
UbugtuMalone bug 62831 in dosfstools "fsck.vfat truncates files of 4294967295 bytes length to 0 bytes at boot-time" [High,Fix committed]  02:52
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sistpotycrimsun_: thanks :)02:52
crimsun_thank you!02:52
sistpotyha, yesterday I found out, that I'm not even affected (the math is obviously done in 64-bit registers on amd64, so there are no overflows *g*)02:53
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sistpoty(my fat32 partition holds all my por^W vital data)02:53
crimsun_smart decision to run amd64 ;)02:54
sistpotyhehe02:54
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bddebianryanakca: This is a Gnome applet?02:59
ryanakcabddebian: kicker/KDE03:01
bddebianAhh.  Do you not need to use kde.mk?03:01
ryanakcabuilt fine without it... should I?03:02
joejaxxhello all03:02
joejaxxin the ubuntu book03:02
joejaxxthe companion cd03:02
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joejaxxis that a livecd or a alternative install cd03:02
joejaxxryanakca: hello :D03:02
crimsun_I'm pretty sure it's a desktop cd03:02
joejaxxi am thinking live03:03
joejaxxcrimsun_: ah ok thanks03:03
TheMusocrimsun_: http://www.themuso.id.au/0.3.2-0ubuntu1_0.3.2-0ubuntu2.diff for lsr03:04
crimsun_40403:06
crimsun_TheMuso: ^03:06
TheMusocrimsun_: www.themuso.id.au/ubuntu/0.3.2-0ubuntu1_0.3.2-0ubuntu2.diff03:06
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TheMusosorry slight error03:06
crimsun_was that the only change?03:07
crimsun_that diff doesn't appear to actually have a hunk for debian/control03:08
TheMusooops right03:12
TheMusothats weird03:12
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TheMusohaving another look03:12
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TheMusocrimsun_: Try again03:18
TheMusoDunno why it didn't do it the first time.03:18
crimsun_uploaded.03:21
crimsun_ok, really off for dinner.03:21
bddebianbon apetit03:22
LaserJockman, you don't realize how used you are to a distro until you try another one03:25
LaserJockI can't make heads or tails out of openSuse right now03:25
bddebianheh03:26
chillywillyblah03:26
=== ajmitch finds debian quite easy to manage still
chillywillyhehe :)03:26
bddebianLaserJock: Have you or your minions hit gnome-chemistry utils yet?03:26
ajmitchprobably because I've only been using debian or ubuntu for the last 6 years03:26
LaserJockbddebian: hit it?03:26
bddebianmerge03:26
chillywillyanything debian-based should be pretty easy ;)03:26
LaserJockopenSuse looks great, it's just ... different03:27
chillywillyI wish RPM was never invented ;)03:27
bddebianAck, I forgot, I'm swearing off gnome packages anyway :-)03:27
LaserJockI'm a little disappointed that they couldn't guess my "Favorite Applications" better03:27
LaserJockI have to search each time to find a terminal03:28
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LaserJockbddebian: gchemutils could be a little interesting03:30
bddebianLaserJock: ?03:31
LaserJockwell, it depends on getting chemical-mime-data in too03:31
LaserJockbut it looks like that made it03:31
LaserJockthat's good03:31
LaserJockoh, the other thing is goffice03:32
LaserJockit mostly likely won't work with Ubuntu's libgoffice03:32
bddebianLaserJock: Are they on the merge lists?03:34
LaserJockno03:35
LaserJockchemical-mime-data is a NEW package (already in)03:35
LaserJockand libgoffice is *too* new (from Debian experimental)03:35
LaserJockso you can see what a sync does, but I'm not sure if it'll even build with Ubuntu's goffice03:37
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bddebianLaserJock: Oh, I'm working under Scott's orders currently ;-P03:42
TheMusoI don't understand what Scott was talking about. Are merges finishing up this week?03:42
LaserJockbddebian: if you want just grab the Debian source and try it go for it03:42
LaserJockTheMuso: I seriously doubt it but that's what his email seems to indicate03:43
chillywillywhat's goffice? Gnome Office?03:45
LaserJockyeah03:47
LaserJockused by gnumeric, abiword (I think perhaps), and gchemutils03:47
chillywillysometimes I wonder why they even bother when there's openoffice ;)03:48
LaserJockopenoffice is rather large and for some things not as good03:50
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chillywillybah04:00
chillywillyI have a dir name that ends in a digit and I want to strip that digit off, anyone have a sed line or some quick way to do that? oh wait I might have something...04:01
chillywillyerm, pull the digit off and stick it in a var in a shell script04:01
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sistpotycrimsun_: got another patch to dosfstools: bug #68153. But this time I couldn't test it, so better read the diff carefully ;)04:11
UbugtuMalone bug 68153 in dosfstools "fsck.vfat hangs after renaming to FSCK9999.REN" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6815304:11
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sistpotygn8 everyone04:13
LaserJockcya sistpoty 04:13
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ajmitchhello Amaranth, Hobbsee 04:19
Amaranthhey04:19
LaserJockbbiab04:19
Hobbseehey ajmitch 04:20
bddebianHi Amaranth, Hobbsee :-)04:20
Hobbseehey bddebian :)04:20
Amaranthhey bddebian04:20
chillywillyanyone know if I can use another char besides '/' in a sed substitution?04:25
Hobbseeyou can use any character you like, cant you?04:25
chillywillyyea, just tested that04:26
chillywillyyep04:26
bddebianUgh, this is depressing..04:30
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LaserJockhmm, anybody around?05:35
bddebianNope :)05:36
bddebianNo-one "cool" anyway ;-)05:36
LaserJockyou'll do05:37
LaserJock:-)05:37
LaserJockI couldn't tell if I was actually connected or not, my client was doing funky things05:37
bddebianheh05:37
bddebianI don't see any reason for keeping the changes to php-imlib.. Hmm05:38
LaserJockbddebian: did you try to build gchemutils?05:38
bddebianNo, not yet :-(05:38
LaserJockk, I'll give it a whirl05:39
bddebiancrimsun_: You about?05:40
ajmitchhi05:41
bddebianHeya ajmitch05:41
bddebianajmitch: Would you mind looking at php-imlib changelog?  I don't see a reason to keep those changes.05:44
bddebianOr you too LaserJock? :)05:44
bddebianNever mind, I already filed a sync request :)05:59
LaserJockheh06:00
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bddebianGnight gang06:14
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joejaxxanyone know how to stop the oldworld macs from going into standby when you close the laptop?06:23
joejaxxi already change the preferences in gnome-power-preferences06:24
joejaxxto "Do nothing" when the screen is closed06:24
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LaserJockjoejaxx: heh, I have the opposite problem06:39
LaserJockweird thing is it used to work, then I did a reinstall and now no hibernation06:40
joejaxxlol06:40
joejaxx:P06:40
LaserJockman, pbuilder is soooooo slow on this laptop06:42
joejaxxlol06:44
joejaxxwhat are you building?06:44
LaserJockgchemutils06:46
LaserJocktakes forever to unpack and then takes forever to install build deps06:47
LaserJockcrap, and I made a typo06:50
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LaserJockwow, it took 6 minutes to unpack the pbuilder and install the builds deps07:00
nixternalhttp://blog.nixternal.com07:00
nixternaldo you guys see that?07:00
LaserJocknope07:00
nixternalwow, i must say comcast propagates their dns pretty quick then07:00
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Lathiatnixternal: your dns is returning a TTL of 4 hours07:05
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nixternalso i noticed. it comes quick here though07:09
nixternalahh, because i just made some dns changes as well07:10
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elkbuntuaustralia is now officially stupid. anyone want to adopt me?07:36
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crimsun_sorry, but I don't think you'll be any happier here in the States.07:37
cypher1can anyone pls tell what is this december 21st deadline for "Outstanding Merges" ?07:37
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cypher1sorry i meant is it for which release07:38
crimsun_cypher1: it's the date on which autosync stops07:38
elkbuntucrimsun_, are you still allowed to link to copyrighted material?07:38
crimsun_elkbuntu: probably07:38
crimsun_cypher1: "release"?07:39
cypher1crimsun_: how can autosync stopping can be a deadline07:39
elkbuntucrimsun_, jackpot!07:39
crimsun_cypher1: why can't it be?07:39
cypher1crimsun_: sorry i thought the repositories are freezing for some intermediate release07:39
cypher1crimsun_: maybe i need to read more to understand it completely :)07:39
crimsun_cypher1: no, those fall on milestones, like Herds, beta, RC, etc.07:39
cypher1crimsun_: yes thats exactly what i meant by intermediate release :)07:40
cypher1crimsun_: so this is for Herd1 ?07:40
crimsun_Herd 1 released some time ago07:40
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cypher1crimsun_: hmm i need to be update with feisty :D07:41
crimsun_this is just for the end of automatic Debian unstable imports07:41
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cypher1crimsun_: ok07:41
cypher1crimsun_: thanks 07:42
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dayahi all09:22
daya:)09:22
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dholbachgood morning09:41
ajmitchhey daniel09:45
dholbachheya Andrew09:45
Hobbseehey dholbach 09:46
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gpocentekmorning10:03
Seeker`hi10:04
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Seeker`what is the difference between an "outstanding merge" and an "updated merge"10:13
shawarmaSeeker`: updated merges are packages that have already been merged once in this cycle, but have since been updated in Debian.10:13
shawarmaSeeker`: outstanding merges have not yet been handled at all in this cycle.10:13
Seeker`is there any difference in terms of the process of merging?10:14
shawarmaSeeker`: Not that I can think of.10:14
Seeker`ok10:14
Seeker`thanks10:14
shawarmaSeeker`: Any time.10:15
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imbrandonsdfv10:44
imbrandonmoins all10:45
FujitsuHi imbrandon.10:45
imbrandonseems today is not my day heh10:45
imbrandonheya Fujitsu 10:45
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Fujitsu:O10:46
imbrandonbut it seems i fried horatio today10:46
imbrandonsooo anyone using that to compile it will be down indefinately10:47
StevenKimbrandon: Many happy returns!10:47
imbrandonuntill i can figure out a new computer scheme10:47
imbrandonheya StevenK 10:47
tsmithehi imbrandon happy birthday10:47
imbrandonthanks10:48
tsmithei could say something to make you feel really old...10:48
imbrandonseems i dident get the ram seated all the way and managed to fry the MB and RAM10:48
imbrandontsmithe, haha10:48
imbrandoni bet10:48
tsmithe:D10:48
tsmithei'll keep it till tomorrow10:48
tsmitheas today's not your day10:48
imbrandonheh10:51
ajmitchhey imbrandon 10:51
imbrandonno biggie, its just puter parts, and i still have my two servers to build on and a lappy to use till i get more parts10:52
imbrandonheya ajmitch 10:52
ajmitchwhat's up?10:52
imbrandonkinda sucks cuz i was looking forward to it 10:52
ajmitchapart from frying things10:52
imbrandonbut no biggie10:52
imbrandonajmitch, nadda10:52
imbrandonwakin up for the day10:52
ajmitchheh10:52
imbrandondeciding what i'm gonna do today10:52
ajmitchlong day ahead at work?10:52
imbrandonsince i dontnope10:52
imbrandonerr10:53
imbrandonnope10:53
imbrandoni hate osx vt10:53
imbrandonbackspace dosent map right10:53
imbrandonanyhow i'm off today tomarrow and the next day10:53
imbrandonerr yesterday today and tomarrow i guess now since its 3am10:53
imbrandonheh10:53
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imbrandonhrm10:54
imbrandonto load ubuntu on the lappy or to deal with osx for 3 days10:55
imbrandonuntill i get parts10:55
imbrandondecisions decisions10:55
imbrandonhehe10:55
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imbrandonwtf , there has to be a better terminal for osx10:56
ajmitchubuntu10:57
ajmitchdon't bother with OS X10:57
imbrandonyea thats what i'm thinking10:57
imbrandonwell osx is on here now10:57
imbrandonthats what i'm using10:57
imbrandonBUT10:57
FujitsuLive CDs will save you!10:58
imbrandonfor an everyday os itheh10:58
imbrandondammit10:58
imbrandonsee backspace sucks here10:58
imbrandonhrm10:58
ajmitchso why are you up at 3AM?10:59
imbrandonhrm time to find a ppc ubuntu cd10:59
imbrandonwent to bed early10:59
imbrandonjust wakin up10:59
imbrandonwoke up decided not to go back to bed10:59
imbrandonheh10:59
imbrandoni think i went to sleep at 9pm ( very very very early for me )10:59
\shhappy birthday imbrandon11:04
imbrandonheya \sh 11:05
imbrandonlooks like jono got dugg11:05
imbrandonhehe11:06
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Ash-FoxI've been working on packaging a game, unfortunately it wasn't designed to be originally be 'multi-user', so I've devised a sort of trick to get around that (while leaving certain things customizable). Since this is going to be packaged, I was wondering if someone could advise me with said script: http://ash-fox.theden.ws/temp/glfrontier.txt it's working. But I'm not sure if that's a proper way todo things?11:11
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dayaraphink, hi11:14
raphinkhi daya11:14
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dayaraphink, what is the time there?11:15
raphink11:1611:15
imbrandonthanks Ash-Fox 11:18
imbrandonbrb rebooting into ubuntu , i cant deal with this as an every day dev machine in osx11:19
imbrandonits great for music and mobility but not dev11:19
imbrandonanyhow brb11:19
StevenKHeh, it can be if you can deal with TextMate, scp and ssh. :-P11:20
StevenKLike iTunes can be better than Quod Libet or Amarok.11:20
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Ash-FoxI dislike how GNU tools are slower on OSX mostly11:24
imbrandonahh back on ubuntu11:25
imbrandonwell i just really dislike the terminal11:25
imbrandonis the main thing in osx11:25
StevenKBut pointless graphics like a window smoking when you're burning a CD are hideously cheap!11:25
imbrandonheh11:25
StevenKSee, it's *progress*!11:25
imbrandonanyone tried ff 3 yet?11:27
Sp4rKyhi there11:27
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imbrandonheya11:27
Ash-FoxYes, the first thing I noticed, the fox in the logo was replaced with a bomb11:28
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imbrandonVoltron, defender of the universe!11:30
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imbrandonugh12:02
imbrandonnow i cant get to lugradio.com12:03
imbrandon;(12:03
imbrandoni thought today was gonna be a good day12:03
imbrandonbut noooooooo12:03
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\shsorry guys, could be that this was answered on some of our MLs but what is the work order for diffs between ubuntu and debian regarding firefix/iceweasel thunderbird/icedove?12:20
siretart\sh: Perhaps you should ask this iwj?12:21
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dholbachsiretart: he's on VAC12:31
dholbach\sh: best to ask in #ubuntu-devel12:32
dholbach\sh: and say what your problem is with it12:32
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\shdholbach: done :)01:46
dholbachalrighty01:46
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fernandomoin01:49
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=== siretart_ waves to white :)
whitesiretart_: :)02:42
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\shwow...manual bonding + vlan configuration on ubuntu == 2 minutes, on sles9/sles10 10 minutes03:08
\sh*grmpf*03:08
Lathiathah03:15
siretart\sh: still having fun with suse? how is your fai 3 buisness coming along?03:16
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\shsiretart: ubuntu rollout is running  but I have to change our network configuration from suses "bus id bonding setup" to real "debian alike ifenslave bond0 setup"03:18
\shand I need a good solution for finding out which busid is which ethX device03:18
Lathiat\sh: /sys ?03:18
\shthen I can remove all sles9 installations03:18
Lathiat /sys/class/net/<int>/device03:19
Lathiatlathiat@chiana:/sys/class/net/eth0$ lspci|grep 00:0a.003:19
Lathiat00:0a.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 Ethernet Controller (rev a3)03:19
Lathiatlathiat@chiana:/sys/class/net/eth0$ ls -la /sys/class/net/eth0/device03:19
Lathiatlrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 2006-12-20 05:16 /sys/class/net/eth0/device -> ../../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:0a.003:19
\shLathiat: other way around ;)03:19
Lathiatwell ls -la /sys/class/netwell03:20
siretartlshal? *duck*03:20
Lathiatls -la  /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:0a.0|grep net:03:20
Lathiator ls -la /sys/class/net/*/device i guess03:21
\shthat is the solution ;)03:21
\shthx03:21
Lathiatfind /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:0a.0/ -name "net:*" -exec readlink {} \;|cut -d/ -f603:22
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Lathiatlshal also has merit03:23
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\shguys, do you know a good webcam which runs nicely on edgy?03:45
\sh(without patching the kernel of course)03:45
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tsmithehow do i dget sources from revu?03:47
Admiral_Chicago\sh: i know of one03:48
Admiral_Chicagolet me grab the link03:48
imbrandontsmithe, dget the url to the dsc file03:49
tsmithecool, cheers03:49
\shAdmiral_Chicago: cool...03:50
Admiral_Chicago\sh: http://community.livejournal.com/ubuntu_users/156994.html03:51
Admiral_Chicagois that what you mean?03:53
ScottKI have a package that I would like to upload to REVU.  I've added myself to Contributors of packages for ubuntu universe.  Would one of the REVU Admins please re-sync the REVU uploaders keyring so I can upload the package?04:01
\shAdmiral_Chicago: thx04:03
Admiral_Chicagoto problem04:03
Admiral_Chicagono* opps04:03
raphinkI will ScottK04:06
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raphinkScottK: it will take a few minutes04:07
raphinkhi Admiral_Chicago04:07
Admiral_Chicagogotta run and start this final essay.04:07
ScottKThanks.04:08
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raphinkScottK: done04:13
raphinkwhat is yoru package ScottK?04:14
cypher1is it mandatory to sign a merged package ?04:15
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ScottKThanks.  It's an update to the python-spf package.  The current package is about 2 years out of date.04:17
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raphinkalright04:18
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joejaxxthis should be fun04:30
joejaxxtrying to convert ntfs to ext3 on the fly04:30
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xerxascan I reject this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/7306104:32
xerxas?04:32
xerxas#7306104:32
xerxasoops , ubugtu is not here ! 04:32
xerxas:)04:32
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joejaxxlol04:34
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gesercypher1: what do you mean with "sign a merged package" ?04:41
cypher1geser, i meant gpg signed04:41
bddebianHeya gang04:41
gesercypher1: what do you want gpg sign exactly?04:42
cypher1geser, sorry i meant should i sign with my private key while building a merged package ?04:43
cypher1hi bddebian 04:44
geserit's only needed for uploading but not for creating a debdiff04:44
bddebianHeya cypher104:45
cypher1geser, thanks it is for uploading04:45
cypher1geser, i have signed now04:45
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ScottKraphink - Uploaded pyspf_2.0.1-1 to revu.  Thanks.04:46
raphinkgood ScottK :)04:46
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webbenDoes anyone know a good introduction to package .spec files?04:46
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ScottKraphink - This is (obviously) the first time I've done this.  What's the next step in the process for getting the packaged reviewed?04:49
raphinkwebben: how about asking #fedora, #redhat, #mandriva or any other rpm distro?04:49
raphinkScottK: asking here for the reviewer04:49
webbenraphink, Oh... sorry, I thought .spec was used04:49
raphink.spec is for rpm packages04:49
webbenI see04:50
webbeni wonder if checkinstall uses it even when building debs04:50
raphinkit shouldn't04:50
raphinkI don't see a reason why it would at least04:50
ScottKOK.  I'd like to have pyspf_2.0.1-1 reviewed... (is that right?)04:50
raphinksure ScottK 04:51
ScottKThanks.04:51
raphinkyou can also send an email to the motu-reviewers mailing list04:51
raphinkto ask for a review04:51
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webbenraphink, where does a debian packaging process typically get information about the package, e.g. Depends?04:52
raphinkin the debian/ dir04:53
raphinkyou should read the Ubuntu packaging guide04:53
raphinkhttps://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html04:53
raphinkyou'll find all the infos about this :)04:54
webbenraphink, I have. I found it difficult to understand. But I'm pretty sure it won't help me work out what checkinstall does when there's no debian directory in src.04:54
raphinkcheckinstall creates the debian directory imo04:55
webbenmaybe it converts .spec somehow04:56
raphinkhmm well no idea04:56
raphink;)04:56
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webbenraphink, Yeah it definitely uses .spec ... I commented out the Require: lines which were causing difficulty and now it managed to build the package05:00
raphinkok05:01
webben(can't work out what was wrong with the Require lines, but it definitely didn't like them)05:01
ScottKWhere do I find the motu-reviewers mailing list.  Ubuntu-motu is the closest I find on https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/05:01
cypher1i have uploaded a package.. how can i check it05:02
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cypher1where can i see the current uploads to REVU ?05:05
ScottKNever mind.  Found it (motu-reviewers).05:06
cypher1i uploaded resolvconf-1.37ubuntu1 .. can anyone review it ?05:07
gesercypher1: sorry, I already merged it two hours ago05:09
gesercypher1: merges usually don't go to revu05:10
bddebianSuch a PITA05:10
cypher1geser, ah.. i had asked the previous owner crimsun yesterday05:10
bddebianI hate not knowing who is doing what :-)05:10
cypher1arghh05:11
cypher1no problem :) although i was sleepless today sitting for this :(05:11
cypher1geser, so how should one submit the merges ?05:12
gesercreate a debdiff, attach it to a bug and subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors05:12
cypher1geser, is there a bug or one has to create it ?05:14
geseryou have to create one05:15
cypher1geser, ok05:15
cypher1so i guess i have to send a mail to ubuntu-universe-sponsors@ubuntu.com to subscribe ?05:16
geserno, subscribe u-u-s to your bug in LP05:16
cypher1geser, ok thanks :)05:17
cypher1is anyone working on merge of ire package in universe ?05:21
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gesercypher1: sistpoty uploaded a merge05:22
cypher1he he05:22
geserhave it seen just on feisty-changes05:22
cypher1geser, is there any url from which i can see the current uploaded merges05:22
geseryou can subscribe feisty-changes05:23
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gesereach new upload will be reported by mail05:24
gesercypher1: you can also try the rss feed: http://media.ubuntu-nl.org/rss/feisty.xml05:25
geserbut it seems to lag a little bit behind05:26
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cypher1geser, yes i cannot see the ire05:27
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cypher1geser, thanks a lot05:28
cypher1geser, are you merging coolmail ?05:30
geserI filed a sync request05:30
geserbug 7634905:30
geserhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/coolmail/+bug/7634905:31
gesercurrently I filling a sync request for subtitleeditor05:31
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cypher1geser, sorry i am new to this, so you will be doing the sync also right ?05:34
bddebianGo geser, go geser :)05:34
cypher1bddebian, :)05:34
bddebiancypher1: No, only archive admins can do syncs05:34
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joejaxxso everyone i guess this is a big step for me05:35
joejaxxi am about to convert 2tb of hard drives from ntfs to ext305:36
joejaxx:)05:36
ivoksheh05:36
ivoksthat's one partition or more of them?05:36
joejaxxwhat do you mean?05:37
ivoksnever mind... :)05:37
joejaxxlol05:37
ivokslet's do some merging05:37
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joejaxxivoks: merging? i have not done that before05:38
joejaxxbddebian2: it another bddebian!05:38
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bddebian2Ack, wtf05:40
geserlet's see if bddebian and bddebian2 also merge :)05:40
bddebian2Heh05:40
bddebianAww, bddebian2 died :)05:40
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_Enchainedbddebian: Do you have a few minutes ?05:41
bddebian_Enchained: A little bit05:42
_EnchainedI'm packaging a lib05:42
_Enchainedthe version is 0.1.5pre05:42
_Enchainedsomeone said to me this version will result in problems05:43
_Enchainedwhen the official 0.1.5 version will be released05:43
bddebianPossibly.  You will need to check the SONAME05:43
_Enchainedand that I should chane it in 0.1.5~pre05:44
bddebianBut I'm the worlds worst lib packager so.. :)05:44
_Enchainedso, I changed this in debian/changelog and renamed the orig.tar.gz and the folder, like He said to me05:44
_Enchainedbut I have this error on build :05:44
_Enchainedranlib: '/tmp/buildd/libfoo-0.1.5': No such file05:45
_EnchainedI don(t know what to do... :/05:45
_Enchaineds/(/'05:45
ivoksbddebian: i forgot, while merging, do we change name or leave Ubuntu Merge-o-Matic?05:46
joejaxxmerging seems fun05:46
ivokslol, forget that question :)05:46
bddebianivoks: I change them05:47
bddebian_Enchained: Have you read the Debian library packaging guide?05:47
geserivoks: if you are not Ubuntu Merge-o-Matic change it05:47
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ivoksgeser: :) '< ivoks> lol, forget that question :)'05:48
_EnchainedI read a guide I don't know its the same05:48
joejaxxivoks: lol05:48
_Enchainedbddebian: a link ?05:48
joejaxxhow many merges are left?05:49
bddebian_Enchained: http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/column/libpkg-guide/libpkg-guide.html05:50
ivokslet's see how this will work out05:50
ivoksaircrack-ng merged05:50
joejaxxnevermind i found the merge-o-matic page05:50
_Enchainedthx05:50
geserjoejaxx: it's hard to say: MoM lists nearly 150 remaining merges but some are alread done, some have a sync requested and some are fakesyncs05:51
joejaxxwhere is the color legend for MoM?05:53
ivoksbddebian: how should i ping to just do sync?05:54
joejaxxthere is one for the statistics but not the merges05:54
joejaxxbah i will just pick one :)05:55
bddebianivoks: Just submit a bug on LP and give where to pull from debian, the version, the component (ie main, non-free, etc).  Why the Ubuntu changes can be dropped and the latest Changelog entry from the Debian package05:56
bddebianThen subscribe ubuntu-archive05:56
ivoksgrrr05:56
ivoksi wasn't here for a while05:57
ivoksso i forgot most of the stuff :(05:57
bddebianI know the feeling ;-)05:57
ivoksheh :)05:57
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joejaxxhmm05:58
joejaxxwhy is there not a firestarter 1.0.3-1.2 in debian? there is only -1.1 and -1.305:59
joejaxxbut the ubuntu version for edgy is 1.0.3-1.2ubuntu305:59
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joejaxxanyone know the answer to that one?06:02
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cypher1should i file the bug in a specific format for a merge ?06:09
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joejaxxbddebian: do you know why that is?06:13
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bddebianjoejaxx: I'll have to look at it in a sec06:16
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bddebianjoejaxx: There should have been a 1.2 in Debian.  http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/f/firestarter/current/changelog06:22
joejaxxbddebian: ah ok06:23
tsmitheHow do i use dcut?06:24
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\shtsmithe: for what do you need it06:25
tsmithewell, my internet connection died in a dput06:26
tsmitheand now i can't finish it06:26
\shrm *.upload and reupload?06:26
tsmithethere are no *.upload files06:26
tsmithei can ftp into revu, but i can't delete the file from /incoming06:26
joejaxxbddebian: i wonder how i should go about trying to do this then06:26
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\shbroken uploads will be removed from the buiild system...06:26
\shor do you mean revu=06:26
tsmitherevu06:27
tsmitheif you can, the file i want deleted is /incoming/alsa-firmware_1.0.14rc1-1ubuntu1.dsc06:28
\shtsmithe: which package?06:28
tsmithealsa-firmware06:28
\shargl I'm not allowed anymore :(06:28
tsmithe:(06:29
\shwho has rights to sudo on tiber?06:29
tsmithenot i06:29
\shwell a actual revu admin has to do it :(06:30
tsmithedamn06:31
tsmitheso i can't just dcut rm alsa...06:31
tsmithecos that doesn't work06:31
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\shbddebian: hey, do you have sudo rights on tiber?06:32
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joejaxxi wonder why all the packages i am picking do not have debian counterparts with the same version06:37
bddebianSheesh06:38
tsmithehowdy?06:38
tsmithebad day?06:38
bddebianjoejaxx: What do you mean?06:38
joejaxxbddebian: for instances ivman 0.6.12-3ubuntu2 < ubuntu      ivman 0.6.12-5 < debian06:39
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joejaxxinstance*06:39
bddebianRight, so it needs to be merged. And if Ubuntu changes need to be kept, the new Ubuntu version will be 0.6.12-5ubuntu106:40
joejaxxbddebian: yes but where is the 0.6.12-3 debian diff so i can reference it06:41
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bddebianpackages.ubuntu.com or pull source package from Edgy or Feisty06:41
joejaxxbddebian: i mean from debian06:42
bddebianOr you can use the merge scripts but I don't use them so I can't help you there06:42
bddebianYou don't need it from Debian06:42
tsmithedoes anyone have sudo rights on tiber?06:42
joejaxxbddebian: #06:43
joejaxxbah06:43
joejaxxsomeone needs to fix copy/paste on debian06:43
joejaxxi mean ubuntu06:43
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geserjoejaxx: http://merges.ubuntu.com/i/ivman/ to get all the files you need for a merge06:43
joejaxxgeser: thanks :)06:44
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bddebianslomo: !!06:44
bddebianslomo: Hey was faad2 a multimedia package or did it come straight from Debian?06:44
slomohi bddebian :)06:45
slomobddebian: i packaged it separately... please don't merge/sync it from debian (see the one grave bugreport in debian on it)06:46
joejaxxslomo: did you merge ivman already?06:46
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bddebianslomo: OK, thx06:47
bddebianLaserJock!!06:47
slomojoejaxx: no, feel free to take it06:47
LaserJockanybody else still confused as to why merges must be done in the next 2 days?06:47
joejaxxslomo: thanks :)06:48
Adri2000LaserJock: it's only for main?06:49
LaserJockapparently not06:49
Adri2000from cjwatson's email: "merges from Debian to the main and restricted components should be completed by this Thursday"06:50
slomobddebian: we simply can't use the version in debian (2.5) in any application... because of ugly license06:51
slomoLaserJock: doesn't this only apply to main?06:51
LaserJockwell, they put Universe in Multiverse in there so I'm not sure06:51
LaserJockand it's still not what the release schedules says06:51
zulwhy dont you just ask cjwatson06:51
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LaserJockcause I don't want to get slapped ;-)06:51
zulmeh..06:52
Adri2000"to the main and restricted components" it seems clear no?06:52
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joejaxxLaserJock: LOL06:52
LaserJockespecially if somebody had already asked06:52
LaserJockAdri2000: but Scott's email includes Universe and Multiverse06:52
slomobddebian: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=40311706:53
LaserJockand there is no separation on the release schedule06:53
bddebianI'll ask06:53
Adri2000LaserJock: where was Scott's email sent to? I didn't receive it06:53
LaserJockubuntu-devel06:53
Adri2000ok, I'm only subscribed to ubuntu-devel-announce06:54
LaserJockI'm not really sure how they are enforcing this though06:54
LaserJockI can see if it is a "We'd like to get merges done by Thursday", but a "You must have merges done by Thursday" is different06:54
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zulLaserJock: it wont be a hard bitchslap06:57
LaserJockI still think it stinks for Main too, I was going to try a few more06:57
zulLaserJock: take one for the team ;)06:57
LaserJockzul: heh, I just wanted to make sure that I wasn't coming to the party late when it had already been settled06:57
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LaserJockwell, that really doesn't make things much better06:59
LaserJockso when *do* merges have to be done by in Universe?06:59
joejaxxif there is already a ubuntu versioned package of the new debian version does that mean the merge has already been done?07:03
joejaxxfor example07:03
joejaxxhttp://merges.ubuntu.com/i/ivman/07:03
LaserJockwell, that's ... interesting07:05
bddebianjoejaxx: Probably07:05
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joejaxxbddebian: lol07:05
slomojoejaxx: no... -3ubuntuX is old version, -5 is new debian version, -5ubuntuX stuff on there is automatically merged stuff but might contain conflicts or something07:05
joejaxxso where is the correct list of undone merges07:06
joejaxx?07:06
joejaxxslomo: oh07:06
slomojoejaxx: you have to review it by hand and then either upload that thing or make some changes07:06
slomojoejaxx: it's all explained in the README there07:06
slomoREPORT07:06
LaserJockwell, so much for me going for core-dev today07:07
somerville32LaserJock: Did you change your nick again?07:08
LaserJockwell, just went back I guess07:10
LaserJockI'm on a different IRC client07:10
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LaserJockhmm, so we really should get merges done very soon07:12
\shif somebody wants to take bacula merge...take it...I won't find the time07:13
\shI have to fight with a new mail server farm concept :(07:13
bddebianLaserJock: You were going to go for core-dev?07:15
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LaserJockbddebian: perhaps, maybe I'll wait until after Christmas though07:16
bddebianWow, go d00d07:16
joejaxxLaserJock: :D07:16
LaserJockwell, I'm not sure07:17
\shLaserJock:try it now, so you have a nice xmas present for yourself ;)07:17
LaserJockhehe, maybe if I told them I'd do some Main merges tomorrow07:17
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zulheh...accept me for core-dev and i might do some merges for you right LaserJock? ;)07:18
LaserJockmhm, blackmail07:18
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bddebianI thought about doing some but I don't want a bitchslap either ;-)07:20
LaserJockyeah07:20
LaserJockwell, I did do 1 already07:20
LaserJockbut I don't think 1 merge counts for much07:20
bddebianI thought all Debian packages had to conform to the new python policy by now?07:25
LaserJockwell, you'd think so07:25
LaserJockkinda depends on what kind of package it is07:25
LaserJockif it's a python app that has private modules, it doesn't seem to be a big deal07:26
LaserJockif it's a public extension I think they want it done07:26
bddebianAh, Stephan built it with py-support.. Hmm07:32
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cypher1i merged doc++ and raised bug 7647907:44
cypher1am i supposed to subscribe ubuntu-universe-contributors to it ?07:44
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bddebiancypher1: If you are not an MOTU, subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors07:45
gesercypher1: ubuntu-universe-sponsors07:45
cypher1bddebian, do you mean approved as MOTU ?07:46
cypher1geser, thanks07:46
gesercypher1: u-u-contributors are the revu people07:46
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cypher1geser, ok.. i have attached a debdiff to the bug.. is that where i have to stop working on this merge ?07:47
joejaxxhmwhat is the name of that new disk usage tool07:47
joejaxxin edgy07:47
gesercypher1: yes, all that is needed now is a MOTU to upload it07:48
cypher1geser, when will that happen ? or when i will be able to see my merge on the universe ? ;)07:49
geserit depends when a MOTU has time07:49
geserI may look at it in 2-3 hours07:50
cypher1geser, thanks07:50
joejaxxif rsync -cr does what i think it does rsync is the best file transfer applicationhaha07:52
joejaxxhmm08:00
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joejaxxpbuilder stop signing my packages08:02
bersaceHi all08:03
bersaceGnome Scan 0.4 release !!08:03
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cypher1during a merge i hope i am supposed to do the debdiff between the old ubuntu dsc and new ubuntu dsc file.. please correct me if i understood wrong08:20
bddebianFrick, goffice is main08:21
tsmithehey there08:23
gesercypher1: it depends on the person doing the upload of the debdiff08:24
gesercypher1: I prefer a debdiff between the debian dsc and the merged dsc as it is easier to check08:24
LaserJockbddebian: yes, it is08:25
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LaserJockcypher1: yeah for merges debdiff from the new Debian to the new Ubuntu08:25
cypher1geser, i had uploaded debdiff between the two ubuntu dsc's for bug 76479, i will upload the other debdiff also08:25
cypher1LaserJock, ok08:26
gesercypher1: thanks08:26
LaserJockif there was a new upstream release between the too you also get a diff of the upstream, which is not nice when you're trying to review changes08:26
LaserJocks/too/two/08:26
bddebianLaserJock: Did it build OK?08:27
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tsmithehow do i chose when to use cdbs and when not?08:29
bddebiantsmithe: If it's a new package it's personal choice08:31
tsmithehmm08:31
tsmithebut, as a new 'n, what influences my decision?08:32
tsmithei don't really know enough about it08:32
tsmitheyet08:32
tsmitheto decide for myself08:32
ajmitchmorning08:32
bddebianFor simple packages cdbs tend to be "easiest" but a little less flexible in some regards08:32
bddebianHeya ajmitch08:32
ajmitchtsmithe: do it when it's suitable08:32
tsmithe:)08:33
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ajmitchso is there a TB meeting today, I wonder08:33
ajmitchjust being in the u-meeting topic doesn't make it true08:33
SlimGis the copyright file supposed to be placed at /usr/share/doc/<package name>/copyright ?08:34
LaserJockbddebian: goffice? I tried gchemutils08:34
bddebianLaserJock: How'd you do that without libgoffice-1-dev?08:34
LaserJockI gave it libgoffice-0-dev :-)08:34
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LaserJockbddebian: it FTBFS because of some headers that have been obsoleted in libgoffice-0-dev08:35
LaserJockbut I talked with the gchemutils author last night08:36
bddebianI'm trying goffice from Experimental atm ;-)08:36
LaserJockhe said that it might be fixable08:36
LaserJockbddebian: that's what we have in Ubuntu08:36
bddebianWhere?08:36
LaserJockFeisty08:36
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LaserJockwe've been using the goffice packages from experimental since Edgy08:37
SlimGdoes anyone know if the copyright file is supposed to be placed at /usr/share/doc/<package name>/copyright ?08:37
LaserJockthat's why there is such a problem08:37
LaserJockSlimG: I think that's right08:37
bddebianSo where is libgoffice-1-dev from?08:37
LaserJockunstable08:37
bddebianwtf08:38
LaserJocklibgoffice-0-dev > libgoffice-1-dev08:38
LaserJockgotta love that :-)08:38
bddebianUhm..08:38
LaserJockif we took libgoffice from unstable I'd be set08:38
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LaserJockheh08:39
highvoltageLaserJock: how does that work?08:39
joejaxxlol08:39
bddebian:)08:39
LaserJockyou have to look at the version numbers08:39
highvoltage(that the 0-dev > 1-dev)08:39
LaserJocklibgoffice-0-dev is 0.308:39
LaserJocklibgoffice-1-dev is 0.208:39
joejaxxLOL08:39
highvoltageah08:39
joejaxxwho did that? lol08:39
LaserJocknot really sure, I think the Debian maintainer08:40
LaserJockbut it could be upstream too08:40
LaserJockanyway08:41
joejaxxtoobad there is not a progress bar on rsync08:41
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LaserJocksure there is08:41
joejaxxlol when the hard drive activity light stops flashing 08:42
joejaxxbut alas there  is not one on these eld macs08:42
joejaxxold*08:42
cypher1i have filed another merge request : bug 76483 - can someone please review it ?08:46
joejaxxLaserJock: what do i have to do differently then what the ubuntu-motu docs say since mom automatically merged it08:47
LaserJockjoejaxx: what?08:49
joejaxxLaserJock: well i wanted to merge a package08:49
joejaxxbut MoM automatically merged it08:50
LaserJockMoM automatically merges everything08:50
bddebianLaserJock: How far bad are the missing/changed headers for gchemutils?08:50
joejaxxand i am wondering what i should do different from what the ubuntu-motu docs asay08:50
LaserJockbddebian: the author thought not too bad08:50
ajmitchany bets on which will release first - feisty or etch? :)08:50
joejaxxajmitch: lol08:50
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bddebianajmitch: I'll take that bet if I get fiesty ;-P08:51
joejaxxajmitch: i thought etch was supposed to release this month?08:51
ajmitchjoejaxx: this is debian08:51
joejaxxoh08:51
joejaxxright08:51
joejaxxnevermind :)08:51
joejaxxi still say etch :P08:51
LaserJockbddebian: the other factor is that goffice and gchemutils we be releasing together in mid-March08:53
LaserJockbddebian: so I'm unsure if I should just wait or not08:53
LaserJockit'd kinda pushing it08:54
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bddebianGahh08:54
joejaxxLaserJock: but what about the reviewing paart08:54
joejaxxthat is stated in the repot as slomo said08:54
joejaxxreport*08:55
tsmithei have a problem: what packages replaces xlibmesa-glu-dev?09:12
tsmithe*package09:12
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sistpotyhi folks09:14
tsmithehi09:14
tsmithedo you know about xlibmesa-glu-dev?09:15
tsmitheor how to find replacements for obviously deprecated packages?09:15
cypher1packages.ubuntu.com ?09:15
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sistpotytsmithe: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Transitions/GLU09:15
bddebianHeya sistpoty09:16
tsmithedanke schoen09:16
sistpotyhi bddebian09:16
sistpotytsmithe: bitte ;)09:16
tsmithe:)09:16
bhalehi.09:16
sistpotyhi bhale09:16
tsmithebah pbuilder takes so long...09:17
bddebianHeya bhale09:17
sistpotyanybody experience with tun/tap devices?09:20
sistpotyI have the problem, that as normal user "ioctl(tap_fd, TUNSETIFF, (void *) &ifr);" this will give the result Device or resource busy. works with root privs though.09:21
sistpotyanyone a clue?09:21
sistpoty(permissions on /dev/net/tun are right)09:21
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LaserJockjoejaxx: the merged package MoM puts out is only a guide09:23
chantrageser: are you here?09:23
geseryes09:24
bhaleI dont look at MoM09:24
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chantrajust checked your sync request https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/subtitleeditor/+bug/7646509:25
LaserJockI just look at the report09:25
chantradidn't I do good?09:25
chantrathere https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/subtitleeditor/+bug/7621609:26
geserchantra: debian packages without a change are synced and not merged09:26
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chantrageser: you mean they stay package-version-X and  not package-version-XubuntuY09:27
geseryes09:27
chantraokie dokie09:27
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joejaxxLaserJock: why does MoM exist then09:37
joejaxxLaserJock: or the automatic properties of it09:38
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ajmitchbecause they're often useful09:38
sistpotyhi ajmitch09:38
ajmitchhey sistpoty 09:38
joejaxxajmitch: oh ok09:38
joejaxxajmitch: so then i should still do it manually09:39
ajmitchdo whatever works best :)09:39
joejaxxajmitch: well i do not know what to do with MoM output09:39
joejaxxajmitch: i am following the ubuntu-motu merging guide09:39
ajmitchuse the MoM output if it looks sane09:40
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ryanakcacan someone please review http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3824 ?09:50
ryanakcawait, nevermind :)09:51
ryanakcacan someone help me figure out what those comments mean please?09:51
bddebianjoejaxx: I do them manually because I don't trust scripts.  Of course I probably also make mistakes on occasion09:51
ryanakca"W: solseek; The library solseek_panelapplet is not in a shlibs file"... no clue what that means09:52
bddebianryanakca: I'm not sure how cdbs packages do dh_makeshlibs09:52
SlimGanyone know where changelog should be placed within a deb package project?09:52
ryanakcabddebian: same...09:52
bddebianSlimG: debian/changelog09:52
ryanakcabddebian: what if I tried adding kde.mk...09:52
SlimGbddebian: thanx09:53
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bddebianryanakca: That's why I asked the other day.  Unfortunately I just don't know :-(09:53
mdkehi there. I'd quite like to do a patch on yelp, is there a simply page that will talk me through it? I don't want to have to learn very much, if possible09:53
mdkesimply/simple09:53
bddebianIs there a patch system already in the package?09:53
mdkeI mean, can I just do the patch, and then type "debuild" in the source tree?09:53
ryanakcamdke: on motu-school on wiki09:54
ryanakcajust a sec09:54
mdkebddebian: yes, I'd simply be changing an existing Ubuntu patch09:54
joejaxxbddebian: i am still trying to figure out whether this MoM is sane or not lol09:54
ryanakcahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School/PatchingSources09:56
ryanakcamdke: ^^09:56
mdkethanks09:56
tsmitheurgh... i've gotta learn autoconf syntax09:58
joejaxxfun stuff09:58
tsmithenot really09:58
tsmithe;)09:58
joejaxx:)09:58
tsmithei want the configure script to check for fftw3-dev09:59
tsmitheso i've gotta mod configure.ac09:59
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tsmitheor shall i just leave it with a build-dep in control?09:59
tsmitheand take the easy way out...09:59
bhalea build-dep is sufficient for ubuntu purposes09:59
bhaleif you want to be a good citizen you can send a configure.ac patch upstream10:00
tsmitheas i was gonna say10:00
tsmithei want the source to be healthy10:00
tsmithei might end up doing that10:00
tsmithebut why doesn't this check for the lib: "AC_CHECK_HEADERS([fftw3.h] )10:01
tsmitheAC_CHECK_LIB(fftw3, fftw_plan_dft_1d)"10:01
tsmithe?10:01
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tsmitheyay! patches10:23
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tsmitheno wonder it doesnt work!10:26
tsmithei didn't add it to 00list!10:26
joejaxxbecause tsmithe touched it!! :O10:27
bddebianheh10:27
joejaxx:P10:27
tsmithe/ignore joejaxx10:27
joejaxx:)10:27
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tsmitheno10:27
tsmithei don't add it there10:27
tsmithethat's won't be any good10:27
tsmitheno10:27
tsmitheno10:27
tsmitheno!10:27
tsmithe*that won't be any good10:28
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tsmitheand now i'm gonna go cry somewhere where there aren't 142 pairs of eyes staring down at me10:28
tsmithefrom "above"10:28
tsmithe...10:28
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tsmithe"Is this the real life-10:31
tsmitheIs this just fantasy-10:31
tsmitheCaught in a landslide-10:31
tsmitheNo escape from reality-10:31
tsmitheOpen your eyes10:31
tsmitheLook up to the skies and see-10:31
tsmitheIm just a poor boy,i need no sympathy-10:31
tsmitheBecause Im easy come,easy go,10:31
tsmitheA little high,little low,10:31
tsmitheAnyway the wind blows,doesnt really matter to me,10:31
bhaleplease stop.10:31
tsmitheTo me10:31
tsmithe"10:31
bddebianNow I remember why I had tsmithe on ignore10:31
tsmithe"Mama, just killed a package"10:31
tsmitheok10:31
tsmithe:(10:31
tsmithe:'(10:31
bhalegosh10:31
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tsmithei was weeping10:31
joejaxxLOL10:32
tsengyawn10:32
tsengsomeone unbroke the access list10:32
bddebianUh oh, now you've done it, now you've brought tseng out10:32
tsmithewhat does that mean?10:32
joejaxxLOL10:32
tsengoh10:32
tsengwrong nickserv pw10:32
tsengtsmithe: that means i asked you to stop acting like a little kid and you kept on going10:33
tsmithesorry10:33
tsmithe:(10:33
tsmithei just had to have the line that was actually different from the original10:33
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tsmithei give up on this patch10:50
tsmithei just don't see what autoconf needs to be so cryptic10:50
tsmitheeven when it's simple it fails miserably10:50
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Burgworklife is fun. Nautilus is now refusing to burn isos11:00
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joejaxxBurgwork: lol11:03
joejaxxwhat does it say?11:03
Burgworknothing11:04
joejaxx:\11:04
hubBurgwork: could be worse11:04
hubBurgwork: last time at work, when I tried that using our product, it did a CD with the ISO file on it11:04
joejaxxLaserJock: pm?11:04
LaserJockyeah11:04
hubBurgwork: so I apt-get installed nautilus-cd-burner11:04
Burgworkhmm, it is new permissions error11:05
Burgworknot member of the cdrom group11:07
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_EnchainedHi all11:27
tsmithehi11:27
_EnchainedSomebody to review something ?11:27
tsmithe_Enchained, there's a revu sprint starting tomorrow11:28
tsmithei'd wait if it were you ;)11:28
_Enchaineda revu sprint ?...11:28
tsmithepeople are unlikely to work if pestered.11:28
tsmithetrust me; it's better to not11:28
tsmitheyeah: where motus revu lots of packages11:28
tsmithe(i hope)11:28
tsmithe;)11:28
_Enchainedok11:28
_Enchainedin fact the package is already advocated by 111:29
tsmithecool11:29
tsmithemore than mine11:29
tsmithe:)11:29
_Enchainedso it need another ^11:29
tsmitheand if there's a revu admin here: please could you delete a file for me11:29
sistpotytsmithe: what do you want deleted?11:30
tsmitheyay!11:30
tsmithealsa-firmware_1.0.14rc1-1ubuntu1.dsc11:31
tsmitheit's in incoming11:31
tsmithethanks mate11:31
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sistpotytsmithe: gone11:34
tsmithecheers lots11:35
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sistpotynp11:36
tsmithe:)11:37
bddebianHmm, I'm not quite sure what doko changed in mercurial..11:37
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sistpotybddebian: new upstream version? if not, a debdiff might help#11:39
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sistpoty_Enchained: which package do you want reviewed?11:40
_Enchainedsistpoty: nautilus-image-converter11:40
sistpoty_Enchained: ok, will take a look11:41
_Enchainedbddebian already reviewed it11:41
_Enchainedit seems to be fine11:41
_Enchainedthanks11:41
sistpotynp11:42
_Enchaineda question with cdbs :11:42
_Enchainedhow remove config.{guess,sub} ?11:42
_Enchainedwith debhelper, it's in the debian/rules but I don't know with cdbs...11:42
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tsmithebah i use debhelper11:43
tsmithei like the power it gives me11:43
bddebiansistpoty: I got it, thx11:43
_EnchainedSomtimes it's easier with cdbs ^^ (with libs for example)11:43
sistpoty_Enchained: nautilus-image-converter: I guess you don't need autotools-dev build-dependency11:44
_EnchainedI test...11:45
sistpotyoh, nice: haven't seen this one yet: "This library is free software... distribute it under the GPL" ... nice :)11:45
sistpoty_Enchained: please do just a bunzip2 and gzip -9 on the .tar.bz2 and don't repack the tar itself11:47
_Enchainedok11:48
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bddebianLater gang11:51
sistpoty_Enchained: maybe you'd like to put AUTHORS to docs as well...11:52
sistpoty_Enchained: but in general, all these are just minor points, package is in really good shape as is11:52
joejaxxhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37990/ << debdiff for ivman feisty merge11:53
_EnchainedI corrected this. I build and dput11:54
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tsmitheso who did fmit before me?!12:04
_Enchained(sistpoty: I updated it)12:08
sistpoty_Enchained: will look at it (in a few minutes)12:08
_Enchained:)12:08
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