=== fowlduck [n=nate@205.213.122.187] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:16] crimsun_: do you want to look over sru bug #72951 again, or can I take your previous +1 and upload to -proposed? [12:16] Malone bug 72951 in dosemu "[SRU] dosemu (dapper)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/72951 === mr_pouit [n=silk@LAubervilliers-151-12-125-187.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:17] sistpoty: +1 [12:17] crimsun_: thx... uploading === Sergi0 [n=serge@ip227-28-166-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:32] jdong: did you backport dosemu-freedos (bug #73056) to edgy and dapper or only to edgy? [12:32] Malone bug 73056 in dapper-backports "dosemu-freedos (dapper and most probably edgy)" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73056 [12:32] sistpoty: not yet, but soon :) [12:34] jdong: thanks! === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:49] can someone please review http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3820 ? [12:50] ryanakca: you don't need all of that in the copyright file [12:51] look at other packages to see what you need [12:52] ryanakca: and you can remove the commented and blank lines at the end [12:52] kk [12:53] i wish i got revu's that quickly [12:54] Adri2000: while I fix that, anything else? [12:54] i have four packages which need revuing [12:55] ryanakca: just looking quickly at the diff.gz, no :) [12:55] but i only want two of them looked at [12:55] the others are wip [12:55] (crimsun_ knows why) [12:55] Adri2000: uploading... === zenrox [i=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:55] done [12:55] tsmithe: I'm special? [12:55] lol [12:55] bah [12:56] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3725 [12:56] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3793 [12:56] asoundconf-gtk [12:56] sonata === Ppjet [n=ppjet6@81.56.130.254] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:56] the other two are alsa-tools and alsa-firmware [12:56] tsmithe: you've done pretty ok for reviews [12:56] really? [12:56] ok [12:56] :) [12:56] yeah [12:56] uh, yeah [12:56] i know [12:56] :) [12:56] i want uploads :P [12:56] used to take like a few weeks to maybe a month [12:57] afternoon [12:57] afternoon [12:57] Adri2000: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3821 should be it in a couple of minutes === PriceChild should finish his package soon [12:57] hi ajmitch [12:57] hey sistpoty, how's it going? [12:57] hey tsmithe [12:57] hiya pricey [12:57] ajmitch: so for so good... I just trashed my fs of my laptop (but it was just a fresh dapper install for sru-tests *g*) [12:58] ryanakca: cool, now you have to find a motu to check it :) [12:58] crimsun_, when you have a minute could you look over alsa-firmware and alsa-tools, though, to make sure i'm going in the right direction. [12:58] sistpoty: oh great [12:58] tsmithe: I'm in a meeting right now. [12:58] i'm going to sleep now, so if you post on irc, my proxy will get it [12:58] ok thanks anyway :) [12:58] you have a lot of meetings :) [12:58] O Great Mighty Powerful LaserJock/jmantha, http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3821 ? :D, please? [12:59] tsmithe: he's alwais in a meeting... I don't envy him... [12:59] me neither [12:59] :) [12:59] ryanakca: you want probably to build-depend on kdelibs4-dev instead of kdelibs [12:59] tsmithe: when it's someone else's money on the line, there are more meetings than you can shake a stick at [12:59] ok [12:59] geser: kk [12:59] someone else's....... [12:59] s/3821/3822 in a sec [01:00] night all [01:00] uploading... [01:01] done === tictacaddict [n=josh@cpe-71-65-16-100.twmi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:01] geser: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3822 when revu updates it's web interface [01:03] geser: REVU updated, http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3822 is the updated link :) (thanks, btw) [01:06] ryanakca: you can remove kdelibs from Build-depends as you now have kdelibs4-dev there [01:06] the permissions on the source dir are funky or something [01:06] I can't go into it on REVU === sistpoty didn't do anything [01:09] LaserJock: which dir? [01:09] solseek-0.8a [01:10] I get a Forbidden [01:10] drwxr-x--- 8 revu1 revu 4096 2006-12-18 19:00 solseek-0.8a [01:10] yeah [01:10] odd [01:10] same permissions in the tarball, which is strange [01:10] ajmitch: LaserJock: change'em? [01:11] or it could be correct === ajmitch shrugs [01:11] LaserJock: logout, log back in [01:11] ah no [01:11] sorry, I thought you were doing it via the shell :) [01:12] same [01:12] hmm... [01:12] nah, I'm just browsing [01:12] ryanakca: did you recreate the tarball yourself? [01:12] ajmitch: yes, it was a .tar.bz2 [01:13] right [01:13] and I have some paranoid permission defaults on my system :) [01:13] I suggest you redo it & make sure permissions are correct [01:13] before you break everything :) [01:13] remake the tarball? kk [01:13] your package may not be buildable as-is, I don't know [01:13] by default, everything on my system is -rw-r----- [01:14] yay, my filesystem is back online :) [01:15] that's a good sign [01:15] no uni tomorrow? :) [01:15] ajmitch: sure I do..., but since I'm "only" writing my thesis, I can come in the afternoon as well *g* [01:15] ajmitch: it builds fine on my system... === dous [n=dous@124.107.251.225] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:19] ajmitch: how do I reset default permissions? so that permissions of new files are the default ones of ubuntu? instead of the ones set by bastille? === ryanakca chmod 744'd the source dir... [01:20] ryanakca: I guess you could do that with umask [01:20] kk [01:20] crimsun_: iirc you packaged lsr, am i correct? [01:21] no, TheMuso does. I simply check and punt his source packages. [01:21] for feisty that is [01:21] ah okay, well then I'll go bug him thanks [01:21] TheMuso: got a second? [01:22] idle for >15hr? Probably away. [01:22] Admiral_Chicago: Yo mate. Whats up? [01:22] lsr doesn't install on feisty at all [01:23] What happens? Is it the same as in the bug report? [01:23] nothing I've tried works, it went through accessibility a while ago [01:23] hi, I want to make a package and I hear this is the place to start [01:23] bug #75865 [01:23] Malone bug 75865 in lsr "LSR won't install on Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/75865 [01:23] ? [01:24] tictacaddict: see the Ubuntu Packaging Guide and the Debian Policy Manual [01:24] crimsun_: thanks, will do [01:24] that one TheMuso ? [01:25] Admiral_Chicago: Yeah I got it [01:25] If its libbonobo2, what is there that can be done? [01:25] It seems out of our hands as far as I can tell [01:25] The package built successfully at the time of upload [01:26] hmm i'll check out libbonob2, maybe mail them for an update, probably something is broken [01:26] ah I think I see the prob [01:26] ive found the problem I believe [01:27] the libbonobo2 package has been renamed [01:27] I'll sort out a fix right now [01:27] ajmitch: LaserJock: geser: Fixed [01:27] Admiral_Chicago: -> libbonobo2-0 === TheMuso is working on a fix [01:28] ah i see, so then it was pointing to the wrong package crimsun_? [01:28] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3823 [01:28] i read that as libnoob2-0 [01:28] Admiral_Chicago: But at the time, the libbonobo2 package wasn't what it is now. [01:29] With the silly season upon us, I just haven't had time to look at that bug. === macogw [n=mack@161.253.10.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:29] give me a debdiff, I'll punt it. [01:29] same here [01:30] crimsun_: Just a sec. Want to pbuilder it first. Tis a habbit I'm in. :) [01:31] right, testing is assumed. :) [01:33] assumed? [01:33] that's kinda dangerous around here [01:33] :-) [01:35] the only thing dangerous round here is nixternal and his new web hosting [01:35] hrmm [01:35] i wonder if i can launch bombs with it? [01:35] hopefully... [01:38] lol === ryanakca hopes he isn't on nixternal's hitlist [01:39] I'm not afraid, they'd be duds [01:39] ouch [01:39] there are a few jokes in there that i'm not bold enough to make === rrittenhouse [n=tad@cpe-76-188-35-66.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Admiral_Chicago hides from nixternal [01:40] hrmm. i did make bombs and take them apart for a living while in the military. only one was a dud :) [01:40] how did you know if it was a dud? === ryanakca hides [01:41] it didn't go boom? [01:41] yeah, but who'd you try them out on? ;-) [01:41] oh, some lonely hill in Quantico Virginia [01:42] hmm [01:42] are you sure it wasn't in Montana? [01:42] yeah [01:42] that would be classified [01:42] we've got lots of land in MT [01:42] who do you work for again? [01:42] but I'd really rather you send them NV [01:42] this place is a hell hole [01:42] Yucca Mountain here we come [01:42] well, we did some explosives testing in New Mexico as well [01:43] I wasn't priviledged enough to see the aliens and ufo's in Notvada [01:43] MT has a nice patch of silos though [01:43] I see them everyday === LaserJock mutters something about Taco Bell [01:43] LaserJock: how many times do I have to tell you that you should not say that about your inlaws [01:43] gahahahahahha [01:43] you are bad LaserJock === gandalfn [n=gandalfn@i02m-87-89-253-156.d4.club-internet.fr] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [01:44] and on that note, I'm out [01:44] haha [01:44] see you later people, gotta go get an oil change for the minivan before we head up to MT [01:45] I won't be around for REVU Day [01:45] have fun, and be safe [01:45] but I'll try to make it up to everybody ;-) [01:45] be safe, don't want 1/3 of our trinity croaking [01:45] haha [01:45] LaserJock: i wear a XXL, just so you knwo the size of the ubuntu tshirt that i want :) [01:46] hmm, I do have one [01:46] and an XXL Google shirt too [01:46] but they're mine I tell you === LaserJock strokes his Ubuntu shirt, "my precious" [01:46] grrr [01:46] my ubuntu shirt is just a white t-shirt now [01:46] you should really get that checked out === nixternal mutters profanity at cafedepress [01:46] nah, I got the real deal from mds and Jane Silber dude [01:47] s/mds/mdz/ === chillywilly ate too much === LaserJock out [01:47] i wonder when jsgotanco is gonna call..he should be in chicago any day now === chillywilly is allergic to Chicago [01:48] "skull panda loves kitties" is what my teeshirt says... [01:48] chillywilly: no such thing [01:48] damn FIBs ;) [01:48] FIBs hahaha [01:48] F'n Illinois Bastards? === chillywilly notes the "wi" in his hostmask :) [01:49] yes [01:49] i have heard FIPs, FIBs is a first === ryanakca is allergic to anything south of lake ontario :) [01:49] hehe [01:49] so we'll be boycotting reviewing ryanakca's packages... [01:49] lol [01:49] ahh good one crimsun_ [01:50] na na na boo boo === ryanakca guesses he'll have to bug some europeans :) [01:50] not after i tell them what you said last week about them [01:51] remember that crimsun_? :) === ryanakca scratches his head [01:51] haha === tictacaddict likes Sam and Fuzzy [01:51] where did that one come from? hahaha [01:51] lol [01:51] bumpin' fuzzies... [01:51] it's too warm down there... === ryanakca likes the cold... even though we have a green christmas... which is :( [01:52] no snow here either [01:52] it's been unusually warm for December === ryanakca thinks there should be a #ubuntu-motu-offtopic === mr_pouit_ [n=silk@LAubervilliers-151-12-125-187.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:54] ryanakca: then -motu wouldn't get used at all, with the S/N ratio we have here [01:55] lol [01:55] ajmitchie! [01:57] ryanakca, i'll swap you..a hot and smokey xmas up for grabs here :| [01:57] ick... no good for skiing [01:57] skiing = life [01:57] ryanakca, well.. the ash might make for some interesting 'snow' [01:57] oooh? where's that? === ailean [n=ailean@82-40-205-105.stb.ubr07.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:58] volcano? forest fire? [01:58] ryanakca, bushfires, yeah. australia is still on fire :( [01:58] :( [01:58] We had tons of forest fires in BC this year [01:58] my eyes are stinging mad today... [01:59] do you guys have palm trees for christmas? or do you grow/import pine trees? [01:59] I can imagine [01:59] pine trees are grown over here [02:00] elkbuntu: getting plenty of smoke there? === ryanakca wonders if that campfire trick works... repeating "white rabbit white rabbit white rabbit" over and over again :P [02:04] ajmitch, its pretty thick in the air atm === ryanakca remembers a forest fire when I was in kindergarten... my house was along a wide river... the other side was in flames... chocolate clouds... hehe... [02:07] what's burning? dry plants/shrubs/bushes? [02:07] ryanakca, anything that doesnt move fast enough === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-12-185.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:07] ah [02:08] elkbuntu: you busy? and a MOTU? [02:09] ryanakca, not a motu, no [02:09] kk [02:09] all motus are busy ;) [02:09] yep [02:09] :P === ryanakca wonders about REVU & permissions === tictacaddict [n=josh@cpe-71-65-16-100.twmi.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [02:09] 4.0K drwxrw-r-- 7 ryan ryan 4.0K 2006-12-18 19:24 solseek-0.8a, yet http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/solseek-0612181925/solseek-0.8a [02:10] ryanakca, ajmitch spoke in the past half hour, harass him : [02:10] lol [02:10] ajmitch: I'm harrassing you, ok? === chillywilly also harrises ajmitch [02:11] if he didnt hate me already, he does now [02:11] lol [02:11] ajmitch makes love not war === ryanakca starts the "Official Ajmitch Harrasment in the Name of Reviewment of Packages" team on LP, and sets elkbuntu as the administrater [02:12] sigh [02:12] s/administrater/administrator === elkbuntu whistles innocently [02:12] lol === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:12] ryanakca: simple, you didn't set the +x on the directory [02:12] it needs +x? heh, ty [02:13] yes [02:13] doh [02:13] ryanakca: you're fired [02:13] lol [02:13] Heya gang [02:13] hi bddebian [02:13] hi bddebian [02:13] oh good, now you can harass bddebian instead [02:13] ajmitch: want me to start a elkbuntu harrassement team for you? [02:13] Hi sistpoty, chillywilly, ajmitch, ryanakca [02:13] hey bddebian, KSSH ring a bell? [02:14] hehehe [02:14] hey bddebian, grits and pony? [02:14] You aren't back at that are you? [02:14] ryanakca, real amount of good that would do you [02:14] Heya crimsun_ === ryanakca puts post-its of kssh everywhere in bddebians house [02:14] note to all: KSSH is your worst enemy === zul [n=bob@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chillywilly puts post-its of sweet nothings all over bddebian's place [02:15] heh [02:16] hey [02:16] ho [02:17] Heya zul [02:17] there is only zul [02:18] I should finish my mirroring script and add Edgy to it [02:25] oh bddebian... http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3824 :D [02:25] don't worry, it isn't AS evil as the last one I had :) [02:26] heh === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jabra_ [n=jabra@utopia.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jabra__ [n=jabra@utopia.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:48] can anyone sponsor me an upload for main (bug #62831) [02:48] Malone bug 62831 in dosfstools "fsck.vfat truncates files of 4294967295 bytes length to 0 bytes at boot-time" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/62831 [02:48] ? [02:49] sistpoty: confirmed to fix it? [02:50] crimsun_: I've been doing nothing else this evening... ;) [02:50] crimsun_: though I'm not exactly sure if it fixes *all* integer overflow issues with dosfsck... (but I read through the sources twice) [02:52] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/dosfstools/+bug/62831/comments/6 [02:52] Malone bug 62831 in dosfstools "fsck.vfat truncates files of 4294967295 bytes length to 0 bytes at boot-time" [High,Fix committed] === jabra___ [n=jabra@utopia.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:52] crimsun_: thanks :) [02:52] thank you! [02:53] ha, yesterday I found out, that I'm not even affected (the math is obviously done in 64-bit registers on amd64, so there are no overflows *g*) === fowlduck [n=nate@68-190-90-101.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:53] (my fat32 partition holds all my por^W vital data) [02:54] smart decision to run amd64 ;) [02:54] hehe === crimsun_ notes the accept and hibernates for dinner [02:59] ryanakca: This is a Gnome applet? [03:01] bddebian: kicker/KDE [03:01] Ahh. Do you not need to use kde.mk? [03:02] built fine without it... should I? [03:02] hello all [03:02] in the ubuntu book [03:02] the companion cd === ryanakca waves to joejaxx [03:02] is that a livecd or a alternative install cd [03:02] ryanakca: hello :D [03:02] I'm pretty sure it's a desktop cd [03:03] i am thinking live [03:03] crimsun_: ah ok thanks [03:04] crimsun_: http://www.themuso.id.au/0.3.2-0ubuntu1_0.3.2-0ubuntu2.diff for lsr [03:06] 404 [03:06] TheMuso: ^ [03:06] crimsun_: www.themuso.id.au/ubuntu/0.3.2-0ubuntu1_0.3.2-0ubuntu2.diff === keescook beats clamav with a stick [03:06] sorry slight error [03:07] was that the only change? [03:08] that diff doesn't appear to actually have a hunk for debian/control [03:12] oops right [03:12] thats weird === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:12] having another look === RedKrieg [n=RedKrieg@ip68-10-83-27.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jabra___ is now known as jabra [03:18] crimsun_: Try again [03:18] Dunno why it didn't do it the first time. [03:21] uploaded. [03:21] ok, really off for dinner. [03:22] bon apetit [03:25] man, you don't realize how used you are to a distro until you try another one [03:25] I can't make heads or tails out of openSuse right now [03:26] heh [03:26] blah === ajmitch finds debian quite easy to manage still [03:26] hehe :) [03:26] LaserJock: Have you or your minions hit gnome-chemistry utils yet? [03:26] probably because I've only been using debian or ubuntu for the last 6 years [03:26] bddebian: hit it? [03:26] merge [03:26] anything debian-based should be pretty easy ;) [03:27] openSuse looks great, it's just ... different [03:27] I wish RPM was never invented ;) [03:27] Ack, I forgot, I'm swearing off gnome packages anyway :-) [03:27] I'm a little disappointed that they couldn't guess my "Favorite Applications" better [03:28] I have to search each time to find a terminal === Kaloz [i=kaloz@openwrt/developer/Kaloz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:30] bddebian: gchemutils could be a little interesting [03:31] LaserJock: ? [03:31] well, it depends on getting chemical-mime-data in too [03:31] but it looks like that made it [03:31] that's good [03:32] oh, the other thing is goffice [03:32] it mostly likely won't work with Ubuntu's libgoffice [03:34] LaserJock: Are they on the merge lists? [03:35] no [03:35] chemical-mime-data is a NEW package (already in) [03:35] and libgoffice is *too* new (from Debian experimental) [03:37] so you can see what a sync does, but I'm not sure if it'll even build with Ubuntu's goffice === dous [n=dous@124.107.251.225] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:42] LaserJock: Oh, I'm working under Scott's orders currently ;-P [03:42] I don't understand what Scott was talking about. Are merges finishing up this week? [03:42] bddebian: if you want just grab the Debian source and try it go for it [03:43] TheMuso: I seriously doubt it but that's what his email seems to indicate [03:45] what's goffice? Gnome Office? [03:47] yeah [03:47] used by gnumeric, abiword (I think perhaps), and gchemutils [03:48] sometimes I wonder why they even bother when there's openoffice ;) [03:50] openoffice is rather large and for some things not as good === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-motu === awbassett [n=awbasset@206.135.97.35] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:00] bah [04:01] I have a dir name that ends in a digit and I want to strip that digit off, anyone have a sed line or some quick way to do that? oh wait I might have something... [04:01] erm, pull the digit off and stick it in a var in a shell script === mr_pouit_ [n=silk@LAubervilliers-151-12-125-187.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:11] crimsun_: got another patch to dosfstools: bug #68153. But this time I couldn't test it, so better read the diff carefully ;) [04:11] Malone bug 68153 in dosfstools "fsck.vfat hangs after renaming to FSCK9999.REN" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/68153 === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-105-243.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sistpoty is now off to bed [04:13] gn8 everyone [04:13] cya sistpoty === mr_pouit [n=silk@LAubervilliers-151-12-125-187.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@unaffiliated/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:19] hello Amaranth, Hobbsee [04:19] hey [04:19] bbiab [04:20] hey ajmitch [04:20] Hi Amaranth, Hobbsee :-) [04:20] hey bddebian :) [04:20] hey bddebian [04:25] anyone know if I can use another char besides '/' in a sed substitution? [04:25] you can use any character you like, cant you? [04:26] yea, just tested that [04:26] yep [04:30] Ugh, this is depressing.. === rexbron [n=rexbron@CPE001310b2d1d1-CM0012256e816a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [n=cypher1@59.92.161.92] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=bob@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@202.183.120.9] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:35] hmm, anybody around? [05:36] Nope :) [05:36] No-one "cool" anyway ;-) [05:37] you'll do [05:37] :-) [05:37] I couldn't tell if I was actually connected or not, my client was doing funky things [05:37] heh [05:38] I don't see any reason for keeping the changes to php-imlib.. Hmm [05:38] bddebian: did you try to build gchemutils? [05:38] No, not yet :-( [05:39] k, I'll give it a whirl [05:40] crimsun_: You about? [05:41] hi [05:41] Heya ajmitch [05:44] ajmitch: Would you mind looking at php-imlib changelog? I don't see a reason to keep those changes. [05:44] Or you too LaserJock? :) [05:59] Never mind, I already filed a sync request :) [06:00] heh === somerville32 [n=somervil@ubuntu/member/somerville32] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ScottK [n=kitterma@static-72-81-252-22.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zen-afk [i=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:14] Gnight gang === luisbg [n=d33p@87.217.145.232] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:23] anyone know how to stop the oldworld macs from going into standby when you close the laptop? [06:24] i already change the preferences in gnome-power-preferences [06:24] to "Do nothing" when the screen is closed === ajmitch [n=ajmitch@port166-123.ubs.maxnet.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:39] joejaxx: heh, I have the opposite problem [06:40] weird thing is it used to work, then I did a reinstall and now no hibernation [06:40] lol [06:40] :P [06:42] man, pbuilder is soooooo slow on this laptop [06:44] lol [06:44] what are you building? [06:46] gchemutils [06:47] takes forever to unpack and then takes forever to install build deps [06:50] crap, and I made a typo === Chandu_ [n=Chandu@203.129.255.178] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Chandu_ [n=Chandu@203.129.255.178] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [07:00] wow, it took 6 minutes to unpack the pbuilder and install the builds deps [07:00] http://blog.nixternal.com [07:00] do you guys see that? [07:00] nope [07:00] wow, i must say comcast propagates their dns pretty quick then === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:05] nixternal: your dns is returning a TTL of 4 hours === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:09] so i noticed. it comes quick here though [07:10] ahh, because i just made some dns changes as well === SiberianFox272 [n=Siberian@user-0can29b.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === SiberianFox272 [n=Siberian@user-0can29b.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru_ [n=poningru@pool-72-64-197-83.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@pool-72-64-197-83.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.14] has joined #ubuntu-motu === G0SUB [i=ghoseb@ubuntu/member/gosub] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar_ [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-43815143b44b2cf3] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ctd [i=ctd@incubus.progsoc.uts.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:36] australia is now officially stupid. anyone want to adopt me? === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:37] sorry, but I don't think you'll be any happier here in the States. [07:37] can anyone pls tell what is this december 21st deadline for "Outstanding Merges" ? === WikiMan [n=MatthewV@202.183.119.104] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:38] sorry i meant is it for which release [07:38] cypher1: it's the date on which autosync stops [07:38] crimsun_, are you still allowed to link to copyrighted material? [07:38] elkbuntu: probably [07:39] cypher1: "release"? [07:39] crimsun_: how can autosync stopping can be a deadline [07:39] crimsun_, jackpot! [07:39] cypher1: why can't it be? [07:39] crimsun_: sorry i thought the repositories are freezing for some intermediate release [07:39] crimsun_: maybe i need to read more to understand it completely :) [07:39] cypher1: no, those fall on milestones, like Herds, beta, RC, etc. [07:40] crimsun_: yes thats exactly what i meant by intermediate release :) [07:40] crimsun_: so this is for Herd1 ? [07:40] Herd 1 released some time ago === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu === azeem_ [n=mbanck@host109.natpool.mwn.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:41] crimsun_: hmm i need to be update with feisty :D [07:41] this is just for the end of automatic Debian unstable imports === jinty [n=jinty@196.207.32.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:41] crimsun_: ok [07:42] crimsun_: thanks === azeem [n=mbanck@host109.natpool.mwn.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-143-102.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jikanter [n=jordan@c-24-12-220-77.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jikanter [n=jordan@c-24-12-220-77.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === daya [n=daya@202.79.37.177] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:22] hi all [09:22] :) === Hobbsee waves === cormil [n=cormil@213.215.131.221] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-bfaaeb0c0b439307] has joined #ubuntu-motu === davromaniak [n=cyril@AFontenayssB-152-1-29-102.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F77A29.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:41] good morning [09:45] hey daniel [09:45] heya Andrew [09:46] hey dholbach === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dous [n=dous@124.104.13.161] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seeker` [n=cjo20@ip-62-105-182-26.dsl.twang.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:03] morning [10:04] hi === ivoks [n=ivoks@17-81.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:13] what is the difference between an "outstanding merge" and an "updated merge" [10:13] Seeker`: updated merges are packages that have already been merged once in this cycle, but have since been updated in Debian. [10:13] Seeker`: outstanding merges have not yet been handled at all in this cycle. [10:14] is there any difference in terms of the process of merging? [10:14] Seeker`: Not that I can think of. [10:14] ok [10:14] thanks [10:15] Seeker`: Any time. === Seeker` may have another go at merging when he gets home === cormil_ [n=cormil@213.215.131.221] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cormil__ [n=cormil@213.215.131.221] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-83507afaa6b5ecde] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:44] sdfv [10:45] moins all [10:45] Hi imbrandon. [10:45] seems today is not my day heh [10:45] heya Fujitsu === imbrandon is now officialy 28 [10:46] :O [10:46] but it seems i fried horatio today [10:47] sooo anyone using that to compile it will be down indefinately [10:47] imbrandon: Many happy returns! [10:47] untill i can figure out a new computer scheme [10:47] heya StevenK [10:47] hi imbrandon happy birthday [10:48] thanks [10:48] i could say something to make you feel really old... [10:48] seems i dident get the ram seated all the way and managed to fry the MB and RAM [10:48] tsmithe, haha [10:48] i bet [10:48] :D [10:48] i'll keep it till tomorrow [10:48] as today's not your day [10:51] heh [10:51] hey imbrandon [10:52] no biggie, its just puter parts, and i still have my two servers to build on and a lappy to use till i get more parts [10:52] heya ajmitch [10:52] what's up? [10:52] kinda sucks cuz i was looking forward to it [10:52] apart from frying things [10:52] but no biggie [10:52] ajmitch, nadda [10:52] wakin up for the day [10:52] heh [10:52] deciding what i'm gonna do today [10:52] long day ahead at work? [10:52] since i dontnope [10:53] err [10:53] nope [10:53] i hate osx vt [10:53] backspace dosent map right [10:53] anyhow i'm off today tomarrow and the next day [10:53] err yesterday today and tomarrow i guess now since its 3am [10:53] heh === imbrandon retunrs to work on the 21st === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:54] hrm [10:55] to load ubuntu on the lappy or to deal with osx for 3 days [10:55] untill i get parts [10:55] decisions decisions [10:55] hehe === tudenbart [n=willi@xdsl-213-196-244-95.netcologne.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:56] wtf , there has to be a better terminal for osx [10:57] ubuntu [10:57] don't bother with OS X [10:57] yea thats what i'm thinking [10:57] well osx is on here now [10:57] thats what i'm using [10:57] BUT [10:58] Live CDs will save you! [10:58] for an everyday os itheh [10:58] dammit [10:58] see backspace sucks here [10:58] hrm [10:59] so why are you up at 3AM? [10:59] hrm time to find a ppc ubuntu cd [10:59] went to bed early [10:59] just wakin up [10:59] woke up decided not to go back to bed [10:59] heh [10:59] i think i went to sleep at 9pm ( very very very early for me ) [11:04] <\sh> happy birthday imbrandon [11:05] heya \sh [11:05] looks like jono got dugg [11:06] hehe === tudenbart is now known as dothebart === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:11] I've been working on packaging a game, unfortunately it wasn't designed to be originally be 'multi-user', so I've devised a sort of trick to get around that (while leaving certain things customizable). Since this is going to be packaged, I was wondering if someone could advise me with said script: http://ash-fox.theden.ws/temp/glfrontier.txt it's working. But I'm not sure if that's a proper way todo things? === ctd [i=ctd@incubus.progsoc.uts.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bersace [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:14] raphink, hi [11:14] hi daya === Ash-Fox reads up... "Happy birthday imbrandon" [11:15] raphink, what is the time there? [11:15] 11:16 [11:18] thanks Ash-Fox [11:19] brb rebooting into ubuntu , i cant deal with this as an every day dev machine in osx [11:19] its great for music and mobility but not dev [11:19] anyhow brb [11:20] Heh, it can be if you can deal with TextMate, scp and ssh. :-P [11:20] Like iTunes can be better than Quod Libet or Amarok. === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:24] I dislike how GNU tools are slower on OSX mostly [11:25] ahh back on ubuntu [11:25] well i just really dislike the terminal [11:25] is the main thing in osx [11:25] But pointless graphics like a window smoking when you're burning a CD are hideously cheap! [11:25] heh [11:25] See, it's *progress*! [11:27] anyone tried ff 3 yet? [11:27] hi there === imbrandon assumes its not much diff that 2 yet [11:27] heya [11:28] Yes, the first thing I noticed, the fox in the logo was replaced with a bomb === proppy [n=proppy@free.mekensleep.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:30] Voltron, defender of the universe! === imbrandon stops === engla [n=ulrik@kr-lun-116-144-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _Enchained [n=cyrille@81.56.226.96] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:02] ugh [12:03] now i cant get to lugradio.com [12:03] ;( [12:03] i thought today was gonna be a good day [12:03] but noooooooo === mr_pouit [n=silk@LAubervilliers-151-12-125-187.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@dsl-hkigw8-feb6fb00-217.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:20] <\sh> sorry guys, could be that this was answered on some of our MLs but what is the work order for diffs between ubuntu and debian regarding firefix/iceweasel thunderbird/icedove? [12:21] \sh: Perhaps you should ask this iwj? === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:31] siretart: he's on VAC [12:32] \sh: best to ask in #ubuntu-devel [12:32] \sh: and say what your problem is with it === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === geser [n=michael@dialin109082.justdsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying_ [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fernando [n=fernando@189.0.159.191] has joined #ubuntu-motu === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gpocentek [n=gauvain@sd-4736.dedibox.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@vc-196-207-32-235.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Marce [i=marce@meinungsverstaerker.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === shawarma_ [n=sh@atlas.linux2go.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu === siretart_ [i=siretart@tauware.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rytmisk [n=irc@81-231-105-125-no27.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gazer [n=gazer@mail.assekuransa.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:46] <\sh> dholbach: done :) [01:46] alrighty === nolimitsoya [n=nolimits@176.139.216.81.static.vhe.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:49] moin === dholbach_ [n=daniel@i59F77A29.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=bob@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=alessand@host52-173-static.120-81-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === white [n=white@user.skolelinux.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu === siretart_ waves to white :) [02:42] siretart_: :) === Ppjet6 [n=ppjet6@81.56.130.254] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [n=cypher1@59.92.180.8] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chuck_ [n=bob@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rytmisk [n=irc@81-231-105-125-no27.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:08] <\sh> wow...manual bonding + vlan configuration on ubuntu == 2 minutes, on sles9/sles10 10 minutes [03:08] <\sh> *grmpf* [03:15] hah [03:16] \sh: still having fun with suse? how is your fai 3 buisness coming along? === FunnyLookinHat [n=david@c-67-175-74-85.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:18] <\sh> siretart: ubuntu rollout is running but I have to change our network configuration from suses "bus id bonding setup" to real "debian alike ifenslave bond0 setup" [03:18] <\sh> and I need a good solution for finding out which busid is which ethX device [03:18] \sh: /sys ? [03:18] <\sh> then I can remove all sles9 installations [03:19] /sys/class/net//device [03:19] lathiat@chiana:/sys/class/net/eth0$ lspci|grep 00:0a.0 [03:19] 00:0a.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 Ethernet Controller (rev a3) [03:19] lathiat@chiana:/sys/class/net/eth0$ ls -la /sys/class/net/eth0/device [03:19] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 2006-12-20 05:16 /sys/class/net/eth0/device -> ../../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:0a.0 [03:19] <\sh> Lathiat: other way around ;) [03:20] well ls -la /sys/class/netwell [03:20] lshal? *duck* [03:20] ls -la /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:0a.0|grep net: [03:21] or ls -la /sys/class/net/*/device i guess [03:21] <\sh> that is the solution ;) [03:21] <\sh> thx [03:22] find /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:0a.0/ -name "net:*" -exec readlink {} \;|cut -d/ -f6 === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:23] lshal also has merit === herzi [n=herzi@kiwi.mediascape.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === truz_`24 [n=truz_`24@74-129-166-232.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-022-206.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:45] <\sh> guys, do you know a good webcam which runs nicely on edgy? [03:45] <\sh> (without patching the kernel of course) === davromaniak [n=cyril@AFontenayssB-152-1-29-102.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:47] how do i dget sources from revu? [03:48] \sh: i know of one [03:48] let me grab the link [03:49] tsmithe, dget the url to the dsc file [03:49] cool, cheers [03:50] <\sh> Admiral_Chicago: cool... [03:51] \sh: http://community.livejournal.com/ubuntu_users/156994.html [03:53] is that what you mean? [04:01] I have a package that I would like to upload to REVU. I've added myself to Contributors of packages for ubuntu universe. Would one of the REVU Admins please re-sync the REVU uploaders keyring so I can upload the package? [04:03] <\sh> Admiral_Chicago: thx [04:03] to problem [04:03] no* opps [04:06] I will ScottK === Admiral_Chicago waves to raphink [04:07] ScottK: it will take a few minutes [04:07] hi Admiral_Chicago [04:07] gotta run and start this final essay. [04:08] Thanks. === PriceChild [n=PriceChi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@dsl-hkigw8-feb6fb00-217.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck [n=nate@205.213.122.97] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pirast [n=martin@p508B250C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:13] ScottK: done [04:14] what is yoru package ScottK? [04:15] is it mandatory to sign a merged package ? === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:17] Thanks. It's an update to the python-spf package. The current package is about 2 years out of date. === hub [n=hub@moodiegate.xandros.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:18] alright === xerxas [n=R67894@AGrenoble-257-1-7-58.w86-193.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@pool-72-64-197-83.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kaleo__ [i=boucault@arkana.iiens.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:30] this should be fun [04:30] trying to convert ntfs to ext3 on the fly === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:32] can I reject this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/73061 [04:32] ? [04:32] #73061 [04:32] oops , ubugtu is not here ! [04:32] :) === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@dsl-hkigw8-feb6fb00-217.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:34] lol === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mruiz [n=mruiz@ubuntu/member/mruiz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:41] cypher1: what do you mean with "sign a merged package" ? [04:41] geser, i meant gpg signed [04:41] Heya gang [04:42] cypher1: what do you want gpg sign exactly? [04:43] geser, sorry i meant should i sign with my private key while building a merged package ? [04:44] hi bddebian [04:44] it's only needed for uploading but not for creating a debdiff [04:45] Heya cypher1 [04:45] geser, thanks it is for uploading [04:45] geser, i have signed now === Pricey [n=PriceChi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:46] raphink - Uploaded pyspf_2.0.1-1 to revu. Thanks. [04:46] good ScottK :) === webben [n=benjamin@82.153.62.65] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:46] Does anyone know a good introduction to package .spec files? === Gervystar [n=alessand@host52-173-static.120-81-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:49] raphink - This is (obviously) the first time I've done this. What's the next step in the process for getting the packaged reviewed? [04:49] webben: how about asking #fedora, #redhat, #mandriva or any other rpm distro? [04:49] ScottK: asking here for the reviewer [04:49] raphink, Oh... sorry, I thought .spec was used [04:49] .spec is for rpm packages [04:50] I see [04:50] i wonder if checkinstall uses it even when building debs [04:50] it shouldn't [04:50] I don't see a reason why it would at least [04:50] OK. I'd like to have pyspf_2.0.1-1 reviewed... (is that right?) [04:51] sure ScottK [04:51] Thanks. [04:51] you can also send an email to the motu-reviewers mailing list [04:51] to ask for a review === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@dsl-hkigw8-feb6fb00-217.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tenshu [n=tenshu@sgc91-1-82-231-155-79.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:52] raphink, where does a debian packaging process typically get information about the package, e.g. Depends? [04:53] in the debian/ dir [04:53] you should read the Ubuntu packaging guide [04:53] https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html [04:54] you'll find all the infos about this :) [04:54] raphink, I have. I found it difficult to understand. But I'm pretty sure it won't help me work out what checkinstall does when there's no debian directory in src. [04:55] checkinstall creates the debian directory imo [04:56] maybe it converts .spec somehow [04:56] hmm well no idea [04:56] ;) === Zic_ [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nolimitsoya_ [n=nolimits@176.139.216.81.static.vhe.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:00] raphink, Yeah it definitely uses .spec ... I commented out the Require: lines which were causing difficulty and now it managed to build the package [05:01] ok [05:01] (can't work out what was wrong with the Require lines, but it definitely didn't like them) [05:01] Where do I find the motu-reviewers mailing list. Ubuntu-motu is the closest I find on https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ [05:02] i have uploaded a package.. how can i check it === _Enchained [n=cyrille@81.56.226.96] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:05] where can i see the current uploads to REVU ? [05:06] Never mind. Found it (motu-reviewers). [05:07] i uploaded resolvconf-1.37ubuntu1 .. can anyone review it ? [05:09] cypher1: sorry, I already merged it two hours ago [05:10] cypher1: merges usually don't go to revu [05:10] Such a PITA [05:10] geser, ah.. i had asked the previous owner crimsun yesterday [05:10] I hate not knowing who is doing what :-) [05:11] arghh [05:11] no problem :) although i was sleepless today sitting for this :( [05:12] geser, so how should one submit the merges ? [05:12] create a debdiff, attach it to a bug and subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors [05:14] geser, is there a bug or one has to create it ? [05:15] you have to create one [05:15] geser, ok [05:16] so i guess i have to send a mail to ubuntu-universe-sponsors@ubuntu.com to subscribe ? [05:16] no, subscribe u-u-s to your bug in LP [05:17] geser, ok thanks :) [05:21] is anyone working on merge of ire package in universe ? === lbm [n=lbm@82.192.173.92] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:22] cypher1: sistpoty uploaded a merge [05:22] he he [05:22] have it seen just on feisty-changes [05:22] geser, is there any url from which i can see the current uploaded merges [05:23] you can subscribe feisty-changes === rexbron [n=rexbron@CPE001310b2d1d1-CM0012256e816a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:24] each new upload will be reported by mail [05:25] cypher1: you can also try the rss feed: http://media.ubuntu-nl.org/rss/feisty.xml [05:26] but it seems to lag a little bit behind === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:27] geser, yes i cannot see the ire === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-252-237-96.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:28] geser, thanks a lot [05:30] geser, are you merging coolmail ? [05:30] I filed a sync request [05:30] bug 76349 [05:31] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/coolmail/+bug/76349 [05:31] currently I filling a sync request for subtitleeditor === ivoks [n=ivoks@backup.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:34] geser, sorry i am new to this, so you will be doing the sync also right ? [05:34] Go geser, go geser :) [05:34] bddebian, :) [05:34] cypher1: No, only archive admins can do syncs === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:35] so everyone i guess this is a big step for me [05:36] i am about to convert 2tb of hard drives from ntfs to ext3 [05:36] :) [05:36] heh [05:36] that's one partition or more of them? [05:37] what do you mean? [05:37] never mind... :) [05:37] lol [05:37] let's do some merging === bddebian2 [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:38] ivoks: merging? i have not done that before [05:38] bddebian2: it another bddebian! === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:40] Ack, wtf [05:40] let's see if bddebian and bddebian2 also merge :) [05:40] Heh [05:40] Aww, bddebian2 died :) === joejaxx goes to read about merging for ubuntu [05:41] <_Enchained> bddebian: Do you have a few minutes ? [05:42] _Enchained: A little bit [05:42] <_Enchained> I'm packaging a lib [05:42] <_Enchained> the version is 0.1.5pre [05:43] <_Enchained> someone said to me this version will result in problems [05:43] <_Enchained> when the official 0.1.5 version will be released [05:43] Possibly. You will need to check the SONAME [05:44] <_Enchained> and that I should chane it in 0.1.5~pre [05:44] But I'm the worlds worst lib packager so.. :) [05:44] <_Enchained> so, I changed this in debian/changelog and renamed the orig.tar.gz and the folder, like He said to me [05:44] <_Enchained> but I have this error on build : [05:45] <_Enchained> ranlib: '/tmp/buildd/libfoo-0.1.5': No such file [05:45] <_Enchained> I don(t know what to do... :/ [05:45] <_Enchained> s/(/' [05:46] bddebian: i forgot, while merging, do we change name or leave Ubuntu Merge-o-Matic? [05:46] merging seems fun [05:46] lol, forget that question :) [05:47] ivoks: I change them [05:47] _Enchained: Have you read the Debian library packaging guide? [05:47] ivoks: if you are not Ubuntu Merge-o-Matic change it === mikhail^ [n=dean@124.106.240.104] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:48] geser: :) '< ivoks> lol, forget that question :)' [05:48] <_Enchained> I read a guide I don't know its the same [05:48] ivoks: lol [05:48] <_Enchained> bddebian: a link ? [05:49] how many merges are left? [05:50] _Enchained: http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/column/libpkg-guide/libpkg-guide.html [05:50] let's see how this will work out [05:50] aircrack-ng merged [05:50] nevermind i found the merge-o-matic page [05:50] <_Enchained> thx [05:51] joejaxx: it's hard to say: MoM lists nearly 150 remaining merges but some are alread done, some have a sync requested and some are fakesyncs [05:53] where is the color legend for MoM? [05:54] bddebian: how should i ping to just do sync? [05:54] there is one for the statistics but not the merges [05:55] bah i will just pick one :) [05:56] ivoks: Just submit a bug on LP and give where to pull from debian, the version, the component (ie main, non-free, etc). Why the Ubuntu changes can be dropped and the latest Changelog entry from the Debian package [05:56] Then subscribe ubuntu-archive [05:56] grrr [05:57] i wasn't here for a while [05:57] so i forgot most of the stuff :( [05:57] I know the feeling ;-) [05:57] heh :) === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:58] hmm [05:59] why is there not a firestarter 1.0.3-1.2 in debian? there is only -1.1 and -1.3 [05:59] but the ubuntu version for edgy is 1.0.3-1.2ubuntu3 === Adri2000 [n=Adri2000@unaffiliated/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:02] anyone know the answer to that one? === mlpug [n=user@a85-156-252-200.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck [n=nate@205.213.122.97] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xerxas [n=xerxas@mut38-5-82-246-190-19.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:09] should i file the bug in a specific format for a merge ? === somerville32 [n=somervil@ubuntu/member/somerville32] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:13] bddebian: do you know why that is? === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:16] joejaxx: I'll have to look at it in a sec === guibis [n=guibis@byr89.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ademan [n=dan@h-68-164-187-134.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RedKrieg [n=RedKrieg@ip68-10-83-27.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:22] joejaxx: There should have been a 1.2 in Debian. http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/f/firestarter/current/changelog [06:23] bddebian: ah ok [06:24] How do i use dcut? === geser [n=michael@leary.ping.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:25] <\sh> tsmithe: for what do you need it [06:26] well, my internet connection died in a dput [06:26] and now i can't finish it [06:26] <\sh> rm *.upload and reupload? [06:26] there are no *.upload files [06:26] i can ftp into revu, but i can't delete the file from /incoming [06:26] bddebian: i wonder how i should go about trying to do this then === FunnyLookinHat [n=david@c-67-175-74-85.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:26] <\sh> broken uploads will be removed from the buiild system... [06:26] <\sh> or do you mean revu= [06:27] revu [06:28] if you can, the file i want deleted is /incoming/alsa-firmware_1.0.14rc1-1ubuntu1.dsc [06:28] <\sh> tsmithe: which package? [06:28] alsa-firmware [06:28] <\sh> argl I'm not allowed anymore :( [06:29] :( [06:29] <\sh> who has rights to sudo on tiber? [06:29] not i [06:30] <\sh> well a actual revu admin has to do it :( [06:31] damn [06:31] so i can't just dcut rm alsa... [06:31] cos that doesn't work === bddebian2 [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:32] <\sh> bddebian: hey, do you have sudo rights on tiber? === Admiral_Chicago [n=freddy@st074039212101.monm.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-7-99.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-7-99.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian3 [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:37] i wonder why all the packages i am picking do not have debian counterparts with the same version [06:38] Sheesh [06:38] howdy? [06:38] bad day? [06:38] joejaxx: What do you mean? [06:39] bddebian: for instances ivman 0.6.12-3ubuntu2 < ubuntu ivman 0.6.12-5 < debian === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-022-206.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:39] instance* [06:40] Right, so it needs to be merged. And if Ubuntu changes need to be kept, the new Ubuntu version will be 0.6.12-5ubuntu1 [06:41] bddebian: yes but where is the 0.6.12-3 debian diff so i can reference it === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-7-99.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [06:41] packages.ubuntu.com or pull source package from Edgy or Feisty [06:42] bddebian: i mean from debian [06:42] Or you can use the merge scripts but I don't use them so I can't help you there [06:42] You don't need it from Debian [06:42] does anyone have sudo rights on tiber? [06:43] bddebian: # [06:43] bah [06:43] someone needs to fix copy/paste on debian [06:43] i mean ubuntu === joejaxx is having a bad day lol [06:43] joejaxx: http://merges.ubuntu.com/i/ivman/ to get all the files you need for a merge [06:44] geser: thanks :) === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:44] slomo: !! [06:44] slomo: Hey was faad2 a multimedia package or did it come straight from Debian? [06:45] hi bddebian :) [06:46] bddebian: i packaged it separately... please don't merge/sync it from debian (see the one grave bugreport in debian on it) [06:46] slomo: did you merge ivman already? === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:47] slomo: OK, thx [06:47] LaserJock!! [06:47] joejaxx: no, feel free to take it [06:47] anybody else still confused as to why merges must be done in the next 2 days? [06:48] slomo: thanks :) [06:49] LaserJock: it's only for main? [06:49] apparently not [06:50] from cjwatson's email: "merges from Debian to the main and restricted components should be completed by this Thursday" [06:51] bddebian: we simply can't use the version in debian (2.5) in any application... because of ugly license [06:51] LaserJock: doesn't this only apply to main? [06:51] well, they put Universe in Multiverse in there so I'm not sure [06:51] and it's still not what the release schedules says [06:51] why dont you just ask cjwatson === G0SUB [i=ghoseb@ubuntu/member/gosub] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:51] cause I don't want to get slapped ;-) [06:52] meh.. [06:52] "to the main and restricted components" it seems clear no? === SiberianFox272 [n=Siberian@user-0can29b.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:52] LaserJock: LOL [06:52] especially if somebody had already asked [06:52] Adri2000: but Scott's email includes Universe and Multiverse [06:53] bddebian: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=403117 [06:53] and there is no separation on the release schedule [06:53] I'll ask [06:53] LaserJock: where was Scott's email sent to? I didn't receive it [06:53] ubuntu-devel [06:54] ok, I'm only subscribed to ubuntu-devel-announce [06:54] I'm not really sure how they are enforcing this though [06:54] I can see if it is a "We'd like to get merges done by Thursday", but a "You must have merges done by Thursday" is different === theCore [n=alex@ubuntu/member/theCore] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:57] LaserJock: it wont be a hard bitchslap [06:57] I still think it stinks for Main too, I was going to try a few more [06:57] LaserJock: take one for the team ;) [06:57] zul: heh, I just wanted to make sure that I wasn't coming to the party late when it had already been settled === Zic_ [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:59] well, that really doesn't make things much better [06:59] so when *do* merges have to be done by in Universe? [07:03] if there is already a ubuntu versioned package of the new debian version does that mean the merge has already been done? [07:03] for example [07:03] http://merges.ubuntu.com/i/ivman/ [07:05] well, that's ... interesting [07:05] joejaxx: Probably === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@dsl-hkigw8-feb6fb00-217.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:05] bddebian: lol [07:05] joejaxx: no... -3ubuntuX is old version, -5 is new debian version, -5ubuntuX stuff on there is automatically merged stuff but might contain conflicts or something [07:06] so where is the correct list of undone merges [07:06] ? [07:06] slomo: oh [07:06] joejaxx: you have to review it by hand and then either upload that thing or make some changes [07:06] joejaxx: it's all explained in the README there [07:06] REPORT [07:07] well, so much for me going for core-dev today [07:08] LaserJock: Did you change your nick again? [07:10] well, just went back I guess [07:10] I'm on a different IRC client === _DvP_ [n=David@86.73.129.135] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mr_pouit [n=silk@LAubervilliers-151-12-73-187.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:12] hmm, so we really should get merges done very soon [07:13] <\sh> if somebody wants to take bacula merge...take it...I won't find the time [07:13] <\sh> I have to fight with a new mail server farm concept :( [07:15] LaserJock: You were going to go for core-dev? === freeflying_ [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:16] bddebian: perhaps, maybe I'll wait until after Christmas though [07:16] Wow, go d00d [07:16] LaserJock: :D [07:17] well, I'm not sure [07:17] <\sh> LaserJock:try it now, so you have a nice xmas present for yourself ;) [07:17] hehe, maybe if I told them I'd do some Main merges tomorrow === selinuxium [n=selinium@80-193-7-210.cable.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:18] heh...accept me for core-dev and i might do some merges for you right LaserJock? ;) [07:18] mhm, blackmail === cypher1 [n=cypher1@59.92.180.8] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:20] I thought about doing some but I don't want a bitchslap either ;-) [07:20] yeah [07:20] well, I did do 1 already [07:20] but I don't think 1 merge counts for much [07:25] I thought all Debian packages had to conform to the new python policy by now? [07:25] well, you'd think so [07:25] kinda depends on what kind of package it is [07:26] if it's a python app that has private modules, it doesn't seem to be a big deal [07:26] if it's a public extension I think they want it done [07:32] Ah, Stephan built it with py-support.. Hmm === Seeker` [n=Seeker@84-12-167-90.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@vc-196-207-32-235.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:44] i merged doc++ and raised bug 76479 [07:44] am i supposed to subscribe ubuntu-universe-contributors to it ? === fowlduck- [n=nate@205.213.122.83] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jrib [n=jasonr@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:45] cypher1: If you are not an MOTU, subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors [07:45] cypher1: ubuntu-universe-sponsors [07:46] bddebian, do you mean approved as MOTU ? [07:46] geser, thanks [07:46] cypher1: u-u-contributors are the revu people === RedKrieg [n=RedKrieg@ip68-10-83-27.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:47] geser, ok.. i have attached a debdiff to the bug.. is that where i have to stop working on this merge ? [07:47] hmwhat is the name of that new disk usage tool [07:47] in edgy [07:48] cypher1: yes, all that is needed now is a MOTU to upload it [07:49] geser, when will that happen ? or when i will be able to see my merge on the universe ? ;) [07:49] it depends when a MOTU has time [07:50] I may look at it in 2-3 hours [07:50] geser, thanks [07:52] if rsync -cr does what i think it does rsync is the best file transfer applicationhaha [08:00] hmm === geser [n=michael@leary.ping.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:02] pbuilder stop signing my packages [08:03] Hi all [08:03] Gnome Scan 0.4 release !! === Adri2000 [n=Adri2000@unaffiliated/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ppjet6 [n=ppjet6@81.56.130.254] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mruiz [n=mruiz@ubuntu/member/mruiz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:20] during a merge i hope i am supposed to do the debdiff between the old ubuntu dsc and new ubuntu dsc file.. please correct me if i understood wrong [08:21] Frick, goffice is main [08:23] hey there [08:24] cypher1: it depends on the person doing the upload of the debdiff [08:24] cypher1: I prefer a debdiff between the debian dsc and the merged dsc as it is easier to check [08:25] bddebian: yes, it is === Ppjet6 [n=ppjet6@lns-bzn-51f-81-56-130-254.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:25] cypher1: yeah for merges debdiff from the new Debian to the new Ubuntu [08:25] geser, i had uploaded debdiff between the two ubuntu dsc's for bug 76479, i will upload the other debdiff also [08:26] LaserJock, ok [08:26] cypher1: thanks [08:26] if there was a new upstream release between the too you also get a diff of the upstream, which is not nice when you're trying to review changes [08:26] s/too/two/ [08:27] LaserJock: Did it build OK? === mruiz [n=mruiz@ubuntu/member/mruiz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:29] how do i chose when to use cdbs and when not? [08:31] tsmithe: If it's a new package it's personal choice [08:31] hmm [08:32] but, as a new 'n, what influences my decision? [08:32] i don't really know enough about it [08:32] yet [08:32] to decide for myself [08:32] morning [08:32] For simple packages cdbs tend to be "easiest" but a little less flexible in some regards [08:32] Heya ajmitch [08:32] tsmithe: do it when it's suitable [08:33] :) === SlimG [n=Robert@84.205.58.248] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-130-213.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:33] so is there a TB meeting today, I wonder [08:33] just being in the u-meeting topic doesn't make it true [08:34] is the copyright file supposed to be placed at /usr/share/doc//copyright ? [08:34] bddebian: goffice? I tried gchemutils [08:34] LaserJock: How'd you do that without libgoffice-1-dev? [08:34] I gave it libgoffice-0-dev :-) === Subhuman [n=jack@host86-144-222-197.range86-144.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:35] bddebian: it FTBFS because of some headers that have been obsoleted in libgoffice-0-dev [08:36] but I talked with the gchemutils author last night [08:36] I'm trying goffice from Experimental atm ;-) [08:36] he said that it might be fixable [08:36] bddebian: that's what we have in Ubuntu [08:36] Where? [08:36] Feisty === Admiral_Chicago [n=freddy@st074039212101.monm.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:37] we've been using the goffice packages from experimental since Edgy [08:37] does anyone know if the copyright file is supposed to be placed at /usr/share/doc//copyright ? [08:37] that's why there is such a problem [08:37] SlimG: I think that's right [08:37] So where is libgoffice-1-dev from? [08:37] unstable [08:38] wtf [08:38] libgoffice-0-dev > libgoffice-1-dev [08:38] gotta love that :-) [08:38] Uhm.. [08:38] if we took libgoffice from unstable I'd be set === bddebian packs up and goes home [08:39] heh [08:39] LaserJock: how does that work? [08:39] lol [08:39] :) [08:39] you have to look at the version numbers [08:39] (that the 0-dev > 1-dev) [08:39] libgoffice-0-dev is 0.3 [08:39] libgoffice-1-dev is 0.2 [08:39] LOL [08:39] ah [08:39] who did that? lol [08:40] not really sure, I think the Debian maintainer [08:40] but it could be upstream too [08:41] anyway [08:41] toobad there is not a progress bar on rsync === joejaxx is rsyncing 15gb :\ [08:41] sure there is [08:42] lol when the hard drive activity light stops flashing [08:42] but alas there is not one on these eld macs [08:42] old* [08:46] i have filed another merge request : bug 76483 - can someone please review it ? [08:47] LaserJock: what do i have to do differently then what the ubuntu-motu docs say since mom automatically merged it [08:49] joejaxx: what? [08:49] LaserJock: well i wanted to merge a package [08:50] but MoM automatically merged it [08:50] MoM automatically merges everything [08:50] LaserJock: How far bad are the missing/changed headers for gchemutils? [08:50] and i am wondering what i should do different from what the ubuntu-motu docs asay [08:50] bddebian: the author thought not too bad [08:50] any bets on which will release first - feisty or etch? :) [08:50] ajmitch: lol === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:51] ajmitch: I'll take that bet if I get fiesty ;-P [08:51] ajmitch: i thought etch was supposed to release this month? [08:51] joejaxx: this is debian [08:51] oh [08:51] right [08:51] nevermind :) [08:51] i still say etch :P [08:53] bddebian: the other factor is that goffice and gchemutils we be releasing together in mid-March [08:53] bddebian: so I'm unsure if I should just wait or not [08:54] it'd kinda pushing it === giskard_ [n=giskard@62-101-126-218.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:54] Gahh [08:54] LaserJock: but what about the reviewing paart [08:54] that is stated in the repot as slomo said [08:55] report* [09:12] i have a problem: what packages replaces xlibmesa-glu-dev? [09:12] *package === sistpoty [n=sistpoty@ubuntu/member/sistpoty] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:14] hi folks [09:14] hi [09:15] do you know about xlibmesa-glu-dev? [09:15] or how to find replacements for obviously deprecated packages? [09:15] packages.ubuntu.com ? === bhale [n=bhale@brandonhale.us] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:15] tsmithe: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Transitions/GLU [09:16] Heya sistpoty [09:16] danke schoen [09:16] hi bddebian [09:16] tsmithe: bitte ;) [09:16] :) [09:16] hi. [09:16] hi bhale [09:17] bah pbuilder takes so long... [09:17] Heya bhale [09:20] anybody experience with tun/tap devices? [09:21] I have the problem, that as normal user "ioctl(tap_fd, TUNSETIFF, (void *) &ifr);" this will give the result Device or resource busy. works with root privs though. [09:21] anyone a clue? [09:21] (permissions on /dev/net/tun are right) === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:23] joejaxx: the merged package MoM puts out is only a guide [09:23] geser: are you here? [09:24] yes [09:24] I dont look at MoM === sistpoty neither [09:25] just checked your sync request https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/subtitleeditor/+bug/76465 [09:25] I just look at the report [09:25] didn't I do good? [09:26] there https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/subtitleeditor/+bug/76216 [09:26] chantra: debian packages without a change are synced and not merged === rexbron [n=rexbron@CPE001310b2d1d1-CM0012256e816a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:27] geser: you mean they stay package-version-X and not package-version-XubuntuY [09:27] yes [09:27] okie dokie === anibal [n=anibal@debian/developer/anibal] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck [n=nate@205.213.122.83] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:37] LaserJock: why does MoM exist then [09:38] LaserJock: or the automatic properties of it === macogw [n=mack@161.253.10.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:38] because they're often useful [09:38] hi ajmitch [09:38] hey sistpoty [09:38] ajmitch: oh ok [09:39] ajmitch: so then i should still do it manually [09:39] do whatever works best :) [09:39] ajmitch: well i do not know what to do with MoM output [09:39] ajmitch: i am following the ubuntu-motu merging guide [09:40] use the MoM output if it looks sane === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:50] can someone please review http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3824 ? [09:51] wait, nevermind :) [09:51] can someone help me figure out what those comments mean please? [09:51] joejaxx: I do them manually because I don't trust scripts. Of course I probably also make mistakes on occasion [09:52] "W: solseek; The library solseek_panelapplet is not in a shlibs file"... no clue what that means [09:52] ryanakca: I'm not sure how cdbs packages do dh_makeshlibs [09:52] anyone know where changelog should be placed within a deb package project? [09:52] bddebian: same... [09:52] SlimG: debian/changelog [09:52] bddebian: what if I tried adding kde.mk... [09:53] bddebian: thanx === mdke [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:53] ryanakca: That's why I asked the other day. Unfortunately I just don't know :-( [09:53] hi there. I'd quite like to do a patch on yelp, is there a simply page that will talk me through it? I don't want to have to learn very much, if possible [09:53] simply/simple [09:53] Is there a patch system already in the package? [09:53] I mean, can I just do the patch, and then type "debuild" in the source tree? [09:54] mdke: on motu-school on wiki [09:54] just a sec [09:54] bddebian: yes, I'd simply be changing an existing Ubuntu patch [09:54] bddebian: i am still trying to figure out whether this MoM is sane or not lol [09:56] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School/PatchingSources [09:56] mdke: ^^ [09:56] thanks [09:58] urgh... i've gotta learn autoconf syntax [09:58] fun stuff [09:58] not really [09:58] ;) [09:58] :) [09:59] i want the configure script to check for fftw3-dev [09:59] so i've gotta mod configure.ac === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [09:59] or shall i just leave it with a build-dep in control? [09:59] and take the easy way out... [09:59] a build-dep is sufficient for ubuntu purposes [10:00] if you want to be a good citizen you can send a configure.ac patch upstream [10:00] as i was gonna say [10:00] i want the source to be healthy [10:00] i might end up doing that [10:01] but why doesn't this check for the lib: "AC_CHECK_HEADERS([fftw3.h] ) [10:01] AC_CHECK_LIB(fftw3, fftw_plan_dft_1d)" [10:01] ? === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:23] yay! patches === mdke [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has left #ubuntu-motu ["goodbye!"] === Seeker` [n=Seeker@84-12-167-90.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:26] no wonder it doesnt work! [10:26] i didn't add it to 00list! [10:27] because tsmithe touched it!! :O [10:27] heh [10:27] :P [10:27] /ignore joejaxx [10:27] :) === tsmithe adds it to 00listr [10:27] no [10:27] i don't add it there [10:27] that's won't be any good [10:27] no [10:27] no [10:27] no! [10:28] *that won't be any good === tsmithe adds it to 00list [10:28] and now i'm gonna go cry somewhere where there aren't 142 pairs of eyes staring down at me [10:28] from "above" [10:28] ... === LaserJock gives tsmithe a karaoke machine and walks away [10:31] "Is this the real life- [10:31] Is this just fantasy- [10:31] Caught in a landslide- [10:31] No escape from reality- [10:31] Open your eyes [10:31] Look up to the skies and see- [10:31] Im just a poor boy,i need no sympathy- [10:31] Because Im easy come,easy go, [10:31] A little high,little low, [10:31] Anyway the wind blows,doesnt really matter to me, [10:31] please stop. [10:31] To me [10:31] " [10:31] Now I remember why I had tsmithe on ignore [10:31] "Mama, just killed a package" [10:31] ok [10:31] :( [10:31] :'( [10:31] gosh === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:31] i was weeping [10:32] LOL [10:32] yawn [10:32] someone unbroke the access list [10:32] Uh oh, now you've done it, now you've brought tseng out [10:32] what does that mean? [10:32] LOL [10:32] oh [10:32] wrong nickserv pw [10:33] tsmithe: that means i asked you to stop acting like a little kid and you kept on going [10:33] sorry [10:33] :( [10:33] i just had to have the line that was actually different from the original === tseng goes back into hibernation === tsmithe goes back to packaging === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doomsday- [n=doomsday@home.cameuh.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Quitte"] === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chuck_ [n=bob@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:50] i give up on this patch [10:50] i just don't see what autoconf needs to be so cryptic [10:50] even when it's simple it fails miserably === Burgwork [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:00] life is fun. Nautilus is now refusing to burn isos === dothebart [n=willi@xdsl-81-173-168-148.netcologne.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:03] Burgwork: lol [11:03] what does it say? [11:04] nothing [11:04] :\ [11:04] Burgwork: could be worse [11:04] Burgwork: last time at work, when I tried that using our product, it did a CD with the ISO file on it [11:04] LaserJock: pm? [11:04] yeah [11:04] Burgwork: so I apt-get installed nautilus-cd-burner [11:05] hmm, it is new permissions error [11:07] not member of the cdrom group === ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121e25.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck- [n=nate@205.213.122.83] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _MMA_ [n=atm@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgwork [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@vc-196-207-32-235.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lavid [n=lavid@c-24-13-228-86.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:27] <_Enchained> Hi all [11:27] hi [11:27] <_Enchained> Somebody to review something ? [11:28] _Enchained, there's a revu sprint starting tomorrow [11:28] i'd wait if it were you ;) [11:28] <_Enchained> a revu sprint ?... [11:28] people are unlikely to work if pestered. [11:28] trust me; it's better to not [11:28] yeah: where motus revu lots of packages [11:28] (i hope) [11:28] ;) [11:28] <_Enchained> ok [11:29] <_Enchained> in fact the package is already advocated by 1 [11:29] cool [11:29] more than mine [11:29] :) [11:29] <_Enchained> so it need another ^ [11:29] and if there's a revu admin here: please could you delete a file for me [11:30] tsmithe: what do you want deleted? [11:30] yay! [11:31] alsa-firmware_1.0.14rc1-1ubuntu1.dsc [11:31] it's in incoming [11:31] thanks mate === mr_pouit_ [n=silk@LAubervilliers-151-12-125-187.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:34] tsmithe: gone [11:35] cheers lots === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:36] np [11:37] :) [11:37] Hmm, I'm not quite sure what doko changed in mercurial.. === gandalfn [n=gandalfn@i02m-87-89-253-156.d4.club-internet.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:39] bddebian: new upstream version? if not, a debdiff might help# === cormil__ [n=cormil@d83-184-110-231.cust.tele2.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:40] _Enchained: which package do you want reviewed? [11:40] <_Enchained> sistpoty: nautilus-image-converter [11:41] _Enchained: ok, will take a look [11:41] <_Enchained> bddebian already reviewed it [11:41] <_Enchained> it seems to be fine [11:41] <_Enchained> thanks [11:42] np [11:42] <_Enchained> a question with cdbs : [11:42] <_Enchained> how remove config.{guess,sub} ? [11:42] <_Enchained> with debhelper, it's in the debian/rules but I don't know with cdbs... === lavid [n=lavid@c-24-13-228-86.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [11:43] bah i use debhelper [11:43] i like the power it gives me [11:43] sistpoty: I got it, thx [11:43] <_Enchained> Somtimes it's easier with cdbs ^^ (with libs for example) [11:44] _Enchained: nautilus-image-converter: I guess you don't need autotools-dev build-dependency [11:45] <_Enchained> I test... [11:45] oh, nice: haven't seen this one yet: "This library is free software... distribute it under the GPL" ... nice :) [11:47] _Enchained: please do just a bunzip2 and gzip -9 on the .tar.bz2 and don't repack the tar itself [11:48] <_Enchained> ok === mr_pouit_ [n=silk@LAubervilliers-151-12-125-187.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:51] Later gang [11:52] _Enchained: maybe you'd like to put AUTHORS to docs as well... [11:52] _Enchained: but in general, all these are just minor points, package is in really good shape as is [11:53] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37990/ << debdiff for ivman feisty merge [11:54] <_Enchained> I corrected this. I build and dput === grego22 [n=daniel@20150137034.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:04] so who did fmit before me?! [12:08] <_Enchained> (sistpoty: I updated it) [12:08] _Enchained: will look at it (in a few minutes) [12:08] <_Enchained> :) === Marsmensch [n=daniel@dslb-084-056-100-035.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Furcht [n=tod@201-74-14-76-sc.cpe.vivax.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Furcht [n=tod@201-74-14-76-sc.cpe.vivax.com.br] has left #ubuntu-motu []