[04:26] <seele> at the risk of starting a flame war
[04:26] <seele> http://www.fauxto.com/
[04:26] <seele> why cant we have an image editor that simple to use in linux?
[04:26] <seele> its built in flash for fucks sake
[09:58] <\sh> moins kwwii
[10:00] <kwwii> hehe
[10:00] <kwwii> hi \sh
[10:00] <kwwii> haven't seen you in a while
[10:01] <kwwii> how's life?
[10:06] <\sh> kwwii: busy as usual :) sitting at combots (ka) and dealing with FAI and exchanging sles9 with ubuntu server ;)
[10:07] <kwwii> sounds like fun! ;-)
[10:07] <\sh> kwwii: hehe...yeah :) dealing with suse and ubuntu at the same time is quite funny ;) and how are you and your family?
[10:08] <kwwii> doing pretty well
[10:08] <kwwii> in between contracts at the moment, so I am working a lot on Oxygen
[10:09] <kwwii> interviewed for a fulltime position at canonical yesterday, actually
[10:09] <\sh> kwwii: fulltime? I wish I could go back to freelancing ... the loss of money is awesome ;)
[10:10] <\sh> that reminds me to check the company homepage of a colleague for a new job ;)
[10:11] <kwwii> lol, yeah that is true but having a fulltime job is better when you have a family to support
[10:11] <\sh> kwwii: don't tell me ;) I know it very well...oh, my ex and child are in new zealand...and I have a new GF..which is much more fun ;)
[10:13] <kwwii> I can imagine :-)
[10:13] <kwwii> I need a girlfriend :p
[10:15] <\sh> lol...you are happily married :) you don't need one ;)
[10:15] <kwwii> oh, I bet it would be a bit more fun for a while at least
[10:15] <kwwii> lol
[10:15] <kwwii> just kidding
[10:20] <allee> sure?
[10:20] <allee> hi kwwii \sh
[10:21] <kwwii> howdy allee
[10:21] <kwwii> I am happily married
[10:21] <kwwii> but after 9 years things are not as exciting as they once were
[10:22] <allee> kwwii: I'm happily not marrried, but after 15 years with a permanent gf I agree ;)
[10:22] <raphink> hey guys stop that :p
[10:22] <raphink> I'm getting married in 4 months:p
[10:22] <raphink> don't spoil it ;)
[10:23] <raphink> hehe :)
[10:23] <allee> raphink: I regret nothing!
[10:23] <raphink> :)
[10:23] <allee> :)
[10:23] <kwwii> hehe
[10:23] <kwwii> hi raphink
[10:23] <kwwii> being married is a wonderfull experience
[10:23] <kwwii> and I wouldn't change a thing, but things in you change over time
[10:24] <allee> and kids support this 'changing' a lot ;)
[10:24] <raphink> :)
[10:25] <kwwii> no doubt
[10:25] <kwwii> but being a father is amazing
[10:25] <kwwii> very hard sometimes but definitely worth it
[10:27] <allee> kwwii: yes, holeheartly agreed
[10:27] <kwwii> ;-)
[10:32] <raphink> hehe :)
[10:32] <raphink> I can't wait to be married and have children :)
[10:38] <kwwii> just be sure the have children at the right time, or it can be really hard ;-)
[10:39] <raphink> mhm
[10:42] <\sh> I'm practicing right now, to have my own children again ;)
[10:42] <kwwii> lol
[10:43] <allee> \sh: can't be a serious attempt when you find time to chat in parallel ;)
[10:43] <\sh> allee: I don't chat on during the weekend ;)
[10:44] <\sh> and right now, I'm integrating some servers into our ldap structure ;)
[10:44] <\sh> "practicing right now" means "during weekends" =->
[10:45] <\sh> hey Hobbsee
[10:45] <kwwii> howdy Hobbsee
[10:46] <Hobbsee> :)
[11:02] <Hobbsee> argh, it seems kdesu has stopped working for the last few updates
[11:05] <allee> hi Hobbsee
[11:05] <Hobbsee> hey allee, \sh kwwii and Jucato
[11:06] <allee> \sh is the ldap work useful ubuntu-directory spec?
[11:15] <\sh> allee: somehow yes...:) pam integration + sudo integration...problem in the moment is, that our ldap server is still running on sles9 but for next month I have a planned move to ubuntu serverubun
[11:15] <\sh> including syncing from ADS servers
[11:17] <allee> \sh: well, ADS integration is luckily not necessary here.  But we've to merge kerberos in because we use AFS.
[11:18] <\sh> we don't use kerberos right now...integration is planned for 2nd quarter of 2007
[11:21] <allee> \sh you use slapd 2.2 or already 2.3?  The ACL handling in ldap repo sounds promising.
[11:29] <\sh> allee:2.3
[11:31] <allee> \sh: are there debs? last time I checked I wasn't successful
[11:32] <\sh> allee: we build it on sles9...i didn't check for debian/ubuntu at this time...but if there are no packages we have to produce some ;)
[11:34] <allee> \sh: I'll check again.  I want to switch all desktops to ldap.  (but first I have to fai them all)
[11:34] <\sh> we have here two dl360g40 running 2.3 with heartbeat  ;)
[11:35] <allee> \sh: 'only' sun Galaxies here ;)
[11:35] <\sh> a bit overtuned somehow, but we have enough hardware here ;)
[11:35] <\sh> hmmm...I have to compile a new kernel this afternoon...FUN
[11:35] <allee> \sh for ldap, dns etc every recent server hardware is oversized
[11:36] <\sh> allee: I thought about moving them to two vmware instances ;)
[11:36] <allee> shudder
[11:36] <\sh> yepp
[02:02] <Hobbsee> kwwii: ping?
[02:03] <kwwii> Hobbsee: pong
[02:04] <Hobbsee> kwwii: the new upstream of kwin-style-crystal - do they have all your icon changes in kubuntu?
[02:05] <imbrandon> bbiab
[02:06] <kwwii> Hobbsee: I think so, yes
[02:06] <Hobbsee> kwwii: positive?  :P
[02:07] <kwwii> unless they changed something
[02:07] <kwwii> no sure, I guess :-)
[02:08] <kwwii> s/no/not
[02:08] <kwwii> I don't normally check stuff like that :-)
[02:08] <Hobbsee> hrm
[02:08] <Hobbsee> i'm not sure i trust my brain, but i think that's a sync
[02:09] <Hobbsee> although i'm not sur ewhat sharutils is doing as a b-d there
[02:11] <imbrandon> Hobbsee, sure, i'll check it in a few
[02:11] <imbrandon> i was gonna do it today anyhow
[02:11] <Hobbsee> ok
[03:00] <danimo> imbrandon: ping?
[03:00] <danimo> moin folks
[03:56] <mhb> hi everyone
[04:17] <bddebian> Heya
[04:21] <Jucato> boo?
[04:23] <bddebian> Oh, yeah Boo, thanks Jucato ;-)
[06:14] <jdong> nixternal: I see you're subscribed to the iPodVideoEncoding wiki page?
[06:16] <jdong> nixternal: I've added H.264 and 640x480 encoding instructions to the page
[06:16] <nixternal> SIP'n it ey?
[06:16] <jdong> :)
[06:17] <nixternal> ya, i am subscribed to every wiki page, that way there if vandalism occurs I can fix it if I am around
[06:17] <jdong> nixternal: those commands took me nearly 30 hours to perfect, so I thought I should share it with the world: D
[06:20] <nixternal> hehe
[06:27] <jdong> here, added more info about DVD ripping too :D
[09:12] <Stalwart> oh, cool =] 
[09:13] <Stalwart> is installer on feisty herd 1 cd broken?
[09:13] <Stalwart> it gives me traceback
[09:13] <Stalwart>   File "/usr/lib/ubiquity/ubiquity/frontend/kde-ui.py", line 27, in ?
[09:13] <Stalwart>     from kdeui import *
[09:13] <Stalwart> ImportError: dynamic module does not define init function (initkdeui)
[09:15] <jdong> weird
[09:15] <Stalwart> yup
[09:15] <jdong> Stalwart: I don't think they'd let that slip thru though :-/
[09:15] <Stalwart> ++
[09:16] <Stalwart> i want to install feisty because my hardware sucks and i need fresh kernel =\
[09:16] <Stalwart> and also just because kubuntu is fucking awesome now =] 
[09:16] <Stalwart> \o/
[09:17] <Stalwart> i'm running livecd now - developers have done good work
[09:17] <Stalwart> i want to install it x.x
[09:24] <jdong> Stalwart: you might wanna try the alternate CD
[09:24] <jdong> it's a much more reliable install particularly during the development cycle
[09:26] <Stalwart> jdong: yup, i'll download it tomorrow =\
[11:27] <kwwii> is qt4 installed on edgy by defualt?
[11:38] <Stalwart> kwwii: i doubt, qt4 still isn't widely used
[11:38] <Stalwart> you can grep package list
[11:39] <kwwii> some of it is installed, but I had to install extra stuff to build a package
[11:39] <kwwii> hehe, first I did apt-get autoremove and it removed my xorg, adept, etc. because for some reason kubuntu-desktop was not installed
[11:39] <Stalwart> you always need to install "extra stuff", in debian-based distros headers are in separate package
[11:40] <Stalwart> ^_^
[11:40] <kwwii> moments like that remind one to make a backup :-)
[11:49] <nixternal> wasabi kwizzle
[11:50] <kwwii> kwizzle?
[11:50] <nixternal> hehe
[11:50] <nixternal> the snoop dog version of kwwii
[11:50] <nixternal> actually it would be kwwiiwizzle
[11:50] <kwwii> k-wizzy-wizzler
[11:50] <nixternal> haha
[11:50] <kwwii> that's me
[11:51] <nixternal> you comin' back to chicago for the holidays?
[11:51] <kwwii> not this yera
[11:51] <kwwii> year
[11:51] <nixternal> ahh..i am waiting for jerome gotangco to call/msg/ping/ring the doorbell you name it
[11:51] <kwwii> looks like I might be there around late january though
[11:52] <kwwii> hehe, cool
[11:52] <nixternal> up in wisconsin again?