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ironfroggy_LTi have to boot one of my non-old boxes with LILO on a floppy because neither LILO or GRUB will work right with the harddrive.12:15
BluesKajdon't think he knows how12:15
JohnFlux_kuja_: thanks!12:15
_kuja_(with fingers crossed)12:15
_kuja_Well, someone had best tell him, any volunteers?12:16
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towyncdoes anyone know why when i play .wmv file with caffeine, i only get sound12:16
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adz21ctowync: maybe y need to install the vid codec?12:17
adz21cu*12:17
eilkertowync: u need plug-in, try pls from kaffeine menu12:17
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BluesKajtowync, try mplayer12:17
_kuja_towync, you might need w32codecs. Another possible solution is to use mplayer (rc1 or later)12:18
towyncthanks guys, for all the tip, could u tell me where to get mplayer BluesKaj12:18
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towyncand where do i get the vid codecs12:18
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towync=)12:18
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_kuja_Install kmplayer and then you can use mplayer as a backend for kaffeine12:18
BluesKajit should be in the kicker12:18
eilker!codecs12:18
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:18
towyncthanks eilker12:18
towyncthanks _kuja_12:18
eilkeri hope, it helps12:18
_kuja_indeed12:19
towynci'll go look at these =)12:19
towyncthx12:19
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towynco, and what's kicker12:19
=== towync lol
BluesKajsorry towync , the K-menu12:20
_kuja_kicker is the panel, usually along the bottom unless you moved it12:20
_kuja_alrighty then, now I've got k3b 1.0rc2 & growisof7 :) Happy days12:21
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jerpanyone have a good howto on dchroot-ing w32codecs?12:21
_kuja_!chroot12:21
ubotuhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box12:21
jerpI've been through a couple links on the  ~/12:21
jerpRestrictedFormats site12:22
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jerpthanks kuja12:22
Rob-Westim just gonna install Ubuntu12:22
_kuja_what codecs are you needing w32codecs for, if it's only wmv then you won't need a chroot12:22
Rob-Westcuz i do miss gnome12:22
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BluesKajdin't bother with that wiki , i just installed the X86 32bit version of dapper than a few mos later upgraded to edgy12:23
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BluesKaj<---AMD6412:23
jerpI'm amd6412:23
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yelonekcan sb help me with this error ? http://wklej.org/id/b07c500bb112:24
BluesKajwhat is it about linux users , they can't stand windoze or intel ? :)12:25
yelonekI'm trying to install Cedega12:26
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_kuja_I don't mind intel persay, but windoze I can't tolerate for more than about 30 seconds at a time.12:26
lupine_85intel are teh 3vilz!!!12:27
lupine_85:p12:27
_kuja_30 seconds .... usually windows doesn't have time to crash in 30 seconds, though I wouldn't hold my breath.12:28
lupine_85nah, excepting core duo, amd are just better technically12:28
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_kuja_I wouldn't mind getting a core2 duo, but It's going to be a long time til I upgrade again.12:28
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lupine_85intel are obsessed with clock speed.. .which is the wrong way to go about it12:29
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_kuja_Yes, but the core2 seems to have fixed that problem ... lowered the clock speed, it runs cooler than the athlon 64s, and consumes less power :(12:30
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JohnFlux_kuja_: isn't the whole consumes less power shown to be a myth?12:30
_kuja_I don't know, I haven't looked into it lately12:30
JohnFluxathlon's have 1/3 of the idle power usage, but high peak usage12:30
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_kuja_Ah12:31
JohnFluxbut since it's idle most of the time, it quickly adds up that athlons use less power12:31
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tamacrackerDoes anyone know that program from Gnome "networking tools"12:34
tamacrackerthat lets you ping computers12:34
jonny_How do I make my SD card not read only?12:35
tamacrackerand get information on them12:35
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tamacracker#ubuntu12:35
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Red-SoxThe SD card is at /media/SANVOL12:36
_kuja_tamacracker, I've not seen anything quite like that one, but I'll take a look12:37
VR_how do i install msttcorefonts on 6.10? which repos do i need for that package?12:37
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Red-Sox...12:37
_kuja_VR, you need multiverse12:37
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VR_it looks like i have multiverse enabled12:38
VR_i actually uncommented everything in sources.list12:39
_kuja_might be nettool tamacracker12:39
jerpkuja, what line is it that I add '--arch i386' to?12:39
tamacrackernettool.. ok :D12:39
_kuja_VR_: do a sudo apt-get update and see if that makes a difference12:39
VR__kuja_: i did12:39
tzbishopI saw that kubuntu`s package have a i386 on the name. I have a pentium-4. Is my system going to be much slower than if I had a suse with i586 packages12:39
_kuja_jerp: I think you do that when you're debootstrapping12:40
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_kuja_tzbishop, the difference is negligible12:40
VR_i wonder if there's an good sources.list around for edgy like source-o-matic12:40
VR_a*12:40
_kuja_VR_ my sources.list isn't half bad if you want it :)12:41
VR_let's see it12:41
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avalon_Anyone know how to get a USB touchscreen monitor to work?12:42
tamacrackeri have nettool but i can't find it.12:42
tzbishop_kuja_: no matter installing kubuntu on a pentium-4 then12:42
_kuja_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38001/ VR_12:43
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pj_#asp12:43
coreymon77hi guys12:43
_kuja_hi coreymon7712:44
Red-SoxHow do I make my SD card not read only?12:44
tzbishopmedia:/ on konqueror isn`t available only on live-cd, right12:44
tzbishop?12:44
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_kuja_tzbishop, it probably is, but I think media:/ was dropped altogether in Edgy12:44
VR__kuja_: thanks12:45
coreymon77the firend i was talking about last night has installed dapper12:45
coreymon77although12:45
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tzbishop_kuja_: dropped? there`s no media:/ available anymore? (sorry, not native)12:45
coreymon77since we have so much school stuff to do, he doesnt want to start getting used to kubuntu until the second week on the winter break12:45
jerpit's loading it all in there... dang12:45
coreymon77so he wants to know how he can edit the grub sequence so that windows is the default boot12:46
coreymon77for now12:46
_kuja_Red-Sox, navigate to /media in konq, right click on the SD card, go to the far right tab and make sure RO isn't checked12:46
coreymon77so that if he doesnt touch the keys for 10 seconds, it boots windows12:46
_kuja_tzbishop, I do recall it was because there wasn't much advantage in having media:/ when all you had to do is go to /media anyway.12:46
coreymon77he wants that for now12:46
otaku-sancoreymon77: I know this is probably not helpful...but don't you do that at the grub boot?  You press some F1-F12 key and type a command12:47
VR__kuja_: how do i get the "pubkey" for that sources.list ?12:47
tzbishop_kuja_: Kubuntu automount devices like DVDs, CDs, etc. right?12:47
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coreymon77i dunno12:47
coreymon77otaku-san: thats why i asking people here12:47
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_kuja_VR_, the main public key is mentioned in most of the http://kubuntu.org postitings (well, any that are software related)12:48
avalon_Can someone tell me where Kubuntu hunts it's input modules at? I've got a driver I need to put in that folder12:48
Red-SoxI need to run konq as root12:48
_kuja_And that would be Riddel's key ...12:48
Red-Soxsudo konqureour12:48
VR__kuja_: thanks12:48
_kuja_and my typing is horrible lately :(12:48
otaku-sancoreymon77: from what I can remember...to change your default OS at boot is pretty simple....let me find a doc on it for you12:48
lupine_85avalon_: kernel or xorg modules?12:48
avalon_xorg12:49
lupine_85 /usr/lib/xorg12:49
avalon_Okay, thanks lupine_85 :)12:49
lupine_85correction: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input12:49
VR__kuja_: where did you copy your sources.list from?12:50
_kuja_VR_ I wrote it myself12:50
jerpkuja, is it correct to assume I should remove breezy out of this if I'm using 6.06? .....  sudo sed -i s/dapper/breezy/g /var/chroot/etc/apt/sources.list12:50
VR_cool12:50
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_kuja_jerp: yeah, if it mentions breezy anywhere in a howto or something, you can safely replace it with dapper or edgy (unless you want your chroot to be running breezy)12:51
tzbishopIs kubuntu on HD faster than live-cd or the same thing?12:51
_kuja_tzbishop: much faster on HD12:52
jerpkuja thanks :)12:52
_Ace2016_live cd would be faster if you have enough ram, like how knoppix has the option to load into ram before starting up12:52
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_Ace2016_the initial read from the cd is slow but thereafter its fast12:52
_Ace2016_no wait i change my mind the hard disk is faster12:53
_kuja_True, but you have similar caching when running from HD.12:53
goodthingif you want to make a software raid1, does do the disk then have to go on the raid ports on the motherboard or does that not matter12:53
_Ace2016__kuja_: yea just thought of that12:53
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goodthingwoops, my English again12:54
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_kuja_goodthing, it won't matter for software RAID12:54
_Ace2016_goodthing: don't think it matters, all that has to happen is for kubuntu's alternative installer disk to see both hard drives12:54
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_kuja_If you want to use FakeRAID, you'd have to use th e RAID ports on the motherboard, assuming you can't do it with the other ports.12:54
goodthing_kuja_: but it is possible to still use those ports right? (easier to seperate that way)12:55
_kuja_Probably, just make sure you have that controller turned on in the BIOS12:55
goodthing*separate12:55
pacmananyone know an equalizer that I can download?  The one on VLC sucks12:55
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goodthingalright, thanks guys12:56
_kuja_amarok has an equalizer :)12:56
pacman<-----deleted amarok since it wouldn't play most of the stuff I was downloading12:56
_kuja_Kaffeine has an equalizer too12:56
_kuja_What did those "most things" consist of anyway?12:57
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_kuja_!multimedia | pacman12:57
ubotupacman: For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications12:57
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LBB_BluesKaj: Are you still here? You just recommended me GAG for unhiding a partition. The GAG FAQ says : use fdisk, but neither the fdisk manual nor the sfdisk manual mentions hiding/unhiding. Should I be looking for another term?12:57
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otaku-sancoreymon77: ok found what you want!  You need to change up this file. /boot/grub/menu.lst  Make sure to back it up by saving a second copy, name it something a little different, then put this ~ at the end.12:58
otaku-sancoreymon77: Then do this (this is from a forum entry) That did the trick, you have to modify more than one file, I set a ROOT login and opened the BOOT files and changed the boot/grub/menu-normal.lst, boot/grub/menu-hdb=hd1.lst The default was 3 for me since windows was the 4th in the list, Freespire being 0. I then deleted all the back-up files, ran the command: chmod a-x /sbin/jiffy* from a ROOT Konsole window and presto! If you use a full ROOT us01:00
otaku-saner, you can just open the /boot/grub menu from Konqueror and then double click the files and they open in KWRITE ready to edit.01:00
otaku-sanSorry guys....almost flooded01:00
LBB_Any one know anything about hiding/unhiding partitions? unhide (hd0,1) gives me a disk not found message, and so does cfdisk01:00
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_kuja_LBB_, what sort of partition is it, when did you create it, is there anything on it?01:01
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BluesKajLBB , GAG doesn't list the hd0,1 ?01:04
BluesKajLBB, how many partitions does it list ?01:04
LBB__kuja_: it is a partition of 6 mb before my boot partition01:04
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BluesKajLBB, did you have version of windows on the oc before you decided to install linux ?01:05
LBB_BluesKaj: I don't have GAG, but while reading the faq i saw it reccomends fdisk for unhiding01:05
BluesKajoc=pc01:06
jerpshould I build a debian chroot on Kubuntu?01:06
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connhi, I'm running kubuntu and have the human theme installed on my system. I want gnome apps to use the human theme, how do I do it?01:06
jerp<--- newb01:06
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BluesKajLBB, I'll bet it's the windows recovery partition, it's the right size01:07
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LBB_BluesKaj: I had a working dual boot for about a year, but then i needed space on my / so I uninstalled apache, wich broke mysql, wich made the system unbootable.01:08
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LBB_ out of concern for my housemates I wanted to make the windows the default boot until i figured out how to fix it, so i did hide(0.1). Now I know that was not wise01:09
LBB_BluesKaj: what is the win rec part?01:10
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BluesKaj LBB, the windows recovery is hidden so it can't be changed , you need the recovery cd to boot into it . Once you rever windows , then you can recover your bootloader or MBR , then you can proceed to install GRUB to get your Linux parition to boot again ...it's a roundabout way but i think it might work01:10
_kuja_why not just install grub from the live cd?01:11
BluesKajwhere is he going to install it _kuja_ ?01:11
_kuja_in the hard drives MBR?01:12
BluesKajhave to check the postmail ...bbiab01:12
BluesKajhow?01:12
LBB_BluesKaj: what is the win rec part and how do i boot into it?01:12
_kuja_LBB_, I think BluesKaj said that you would have to use the Windows install/recovery cd to boot into that.01:14
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LBB_kuja: I don't have one available.01:15
geniiHas anyone compiled Conexant HSF or HCF "winmodem" drivers under Edgy yet? (have to keep asking :)  )01:15
_kuja_That doesn't help any LBB_01:15
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_kuja_what device is your hard drive (ie: /dev/hd?)01:16
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LBB_kuja hda01:16
LBB_kuja hda101:16
_kuja_you could probably just do a "sudo grub-install /dev/hda" from the live cd to fix grub, I would presume.01:16
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LBB_kuja hda1 is the partition I made hidden (by hide (hd0,1)01:17
LBB_kuja: I'm willing to try that, but i didn't really change anything about my grub, just made a partition hidden (not sure tho)01:18
_kuja_And hda1 has nothing terribly important (like your linux root/boot partition, right?)01:18
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dominik_hello guys, I have a computer in my study that I would like to install Linux on, but whenever I run the liveCD on it, it tell me that no wireless device is found. But when I use the other computer in the living room, that one picks the wireless usb device on the back of the computer01:19
LBB_no hda1 is a 6MB free partition before hda2, my boot01:19
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_kuja_LBB_ then I would assume it (shouldn't) matter01:19
dominik_is there a way I can make the computer in my study recognize the wireless usb?01:20
_kuja_!wireless ...... might work01:20
dominik_...because, I would like to make the one in my study permanently running on linux01:20
LBB_kuja: another strange thing is that hda5, my home is  of an unknown type acording to qtparted01:20
_kuja_!wireless01:20
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:20
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BluesKajLBB, 6mb oh... definitely not windows recovery01:21
_kuja_LBB_, lets see if parted knows at all01:21
_kuja_sudo parted /dev/hda print01:21
LBB_kuja: what do you mean?01:21
LBB_ah01:21
_kuja_QTParted apparantly isn't as intelligent as parted is, unfortunately01:22
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_kuja_qtparted spent the longest time without a maintainer if I remember right01:22
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LBB_should I paste here?01:23
BluesKajQTParted is like partition magic. it can do damage without warning01:23
dope_ok here's a simple question: i have a url for a wmv file.  how do i download it?01:23
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_kuja_BluesKag, kind of like the time I tried to resize an XFS partition01:23
goodthingdope_: wget URL01:24
_kuja_!pastebin | LBB_01:24
ubotuLBB_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)01:24
dope_thx01:24
LBB_dope: just open konqueror and type the url01:24
dope_i do and it plays it01:24
dope_ok i wget01:24
dope_now what01:24
dope_where'd it save it01:25
_kuja_in your home folder, probably01:25
circanyone know how to make konqueror folders auto refresh after deleting stuff?01:25
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dominik_ubotu: thanks for the link. But when I open the Network Settings Window, it detects my ethernet connection, but it does not show my wireless connection...01:26
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[D] aRk_[B] aNsalve ragazzi01:26
[D] aRk_[B] aN^_^01:26
_kuja_dominik_ ubotu is only a bot01:26
[D] aRk_[B] aNragazzi avrei un grosso enorme problema01:26
dominik_...hmmm01:27
[D] aRk_[B] aNno speack italian?01:27
BluesKaj!it01:27
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!01:27
LBB_kuja: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38010/plain/01:27
[D] aRk_[B] aNBluesKaj :** tnx01:27
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_kuja_dominik_: try posting about the problem in the hardware section of ubuntu forums, you might get lucky.01:29
BluesKajprego01:29
_kuja_spaghetti sauce?01:29
LBB_BTW: does going on the internet with a live-CD make me a sitting duck?01:29
_kuja_LBB_ Well, no ports are opened, so you should be reasonably safe. Linux's built in firewall iptables isn't too shabby.01:30
goodthingLBB_: you are root in live and that is not optimal01:30
LBB_kuja: thanks, did you see my pastebin?01:30
dominik__kuja_: thanks, am still new so I would like to know how to get to the hardware section of the forum01:31
LBB_goodthing: what do I do about that?01:31
_kuja_LBB_, I think I missed it?01:31
goodthingor am i wrong here?01:31
LBB_kuja: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38010/plain/01:31
_kuja_in the live cd  you're not root.01:31
_kuja_But you can gain root access without a password, which certainly isn't optimal.01:31
goodthingyes, that was it01:32
LBB_kuja: I do gat to do sudo, so I'm smei-root, right?01:32
_kuja_dominik_: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=13601:32
dominik_thanks _kuja_01:32
LBB_gat=get01:32
_kuja_LBB_: that's my point, you can use sudo without a password, though you're still not root.01:32
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LBB_kuja: so what do I do?01:33
_kuja_one sec, I'm looking at that01:33
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LBB_kuja: didn;t mean tu rush you, just curious about the root thing01:34
_kuja_LBB_: well, you can set a user password by opening a terminal and typing passwd01:34
_kuja_As for else, it doesn't seem to think that hidden partition exists, it says th at your first ntfs partition starts at 32kb.01:35
_kuja_It looks like it sees everything else though.01:35
_kuja_Hmm, on a miscellaneous sidenote, looks like Qtopia 4.2 has been released as OSS code.01:36
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fribuntuHi all,01:36
_kuja_hello fribuntu01:36
fribuntuCan someone explain to me, why packages.freecontrib.org is down? I cannot find any explanations.01:37
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_kuja_how long has it been down?01:37
fribuntuAll they provide at this moment is the default Apache2 "this site is working" page :(01:37
_kuja_(by the way, I've no idea)01:37
fribuntu_kuja_: well, I found an old forum post from october 2006 ... But I think I have used that repo after that date.01:38
LBB_kuja thx about the passwd. so how do i make hda1 available again. It does seem to be needed...01:38
Black5un(21:25:18) (pdxsam) deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy free non-free01:38
Black5un(21:25:19) (pdxsam) deb-src http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy free non-free01:38
Black5un(21:25:25) (pdxsam) that replaces freecontrib01:38
_kuja_Could be just down for-the-moment, if you're lucky.01:38
Black5unbeen down for a week or two01:39
_kuja_LBB_: no problem. I've no idea ... parted doesn't seem to think it exists.01:39
fribuntu_kuja_: It looks more serious ... if it was planned maintenance they would have put a page up to explain that, don't you think?01:39
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_kuja_Anyone with have a brain would, but it looks like BlackSun has the answer to your woes ;)01:40
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fribuntu_kuja_: Try yourself: http://packages.freecontrib.org/01:40
_kuja_*half01:40
fribuntu_kuja_: Do you know of a second source for libdecss and win32codecs?01:41
LBB__kuja_: any idea about wich irc to visit or what to google( hey even a man-page to read would be swell!)01:41
kai_i have a question about my Kaffeine..when I open up any media file it crashes...what can i do01:41
_kuja_The original source for the dvdcss2 is http://developers.videolan.org01:41
_kuja_You can also get win32 codecs from http://mplayerhq.hu01:41
fribuntu_kuja_: ok, I meant as ubuntu-compatible DEBs01:42
_kuja_kai_, that's odd01:42
kai_I dunno why it does that, it just recently started doin that01:43
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fribuntu_kuja_: Would http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ work?01:43
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_kuja_fribuntu ... the w32codecs is just drag and drop to the folder /usr/lib/win32 (or was it /usr/lib/codecs?), the dvdcss2 isn't hard to build a deb for ...  just download the tarball for 1.2.9 and extract it, open the folder in a terminal, sudo apt-get install build-essential fakeroot debconf debhelper; fakeroot debian/rules binary and there, voila, debs.01:44
_kuja_It probably would, but I've never used it01:44
_kuja_I think PLF probably has the packages too01:44
goodthingSeveas' Ubuntu packages has it, i think01:44
_kuja_Yeah, Seveas has it too01:45
fribuntu_kuja_: well, packages.freecontrib.org is the PLF repo, isn't it?01:45
_kuja_is it? I've never used it ... so I guess I wouldn't know01:46
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kai_it just keeps crashing :(01:47
_kuja_I've used the alioth (debian-multimedia) repository before ... I used to get my mplayer from there, now I just build from source anymore01:47
goodthingfribuntu: remember to not keep additional repo' s active all the time, it might come with other upgrade you might not like to have01:47
_kuja_kai:, hmmm01:48
_kuja_video or audio files?01:48
LBB__kuja_ & BluesKaj: thanks a lot for your help so far. I think I will be back once my kubunto starts booting again, couse it hangs at configuring mysq01:49
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_kuja_LBB_ no problem01:50
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connhi, is it possible to set the gnome icon theme within kubuntu?01:51
_kuja_conn: I don't think so, I never could in the past, maybe you can find a kde-compatible version of it on kde-look.org?01:52
_kuja_I think you would be looking for human or tango ...01:52
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conn_kuja_: I just want to set the icon theme for *gnome* icons to Human, because it's displaying the old Industrial icons :(01:53
circif you want just the gnome icons, theres a gnome theme on kde-look01:53
_kuja_So you're trying to set GNOME's icon theme from KDE? I don't know if that can be done at all. You probably have to use GNOME's setting program for it.01:54
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geniiOK time to ask again :) Anyone compiled Conexant HCF or HSF "winmodem" drivers successfully under Edgy yet?02:01
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tzbishopHow do I upgrade a deb package with dpkg?02:01
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Lathiatjust install it02:02
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Lathiatdpkg -i <package>02:02
Lathiati think02:02
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tzbishopLathiat: install upgrades too?02:02
sdradoes anyone know why i can't play videos from nbc.com, the commercials play but the online show doesn't02:02
goodthingtzbishop: you can't, afaik you need to find a newer version and download it reparately02:02
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Lathiattzbishop: if you have the new package, else you want to be using apt02:03
tzbishopi have downloaded kicker-kickoff which will substitute kickoff. How can upgrade it? dpkg -i ?02:04
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geniitzbishop Just try dpkg -i <name>  ...if it has the exact same name as the original it will warn you02:05
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Rob-Westim trying to play a flash game but it wont play02:05
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Rob-Westi installed flash02:05
goodthingtzbishop: not sure if it would be optimal, but i have find myself to always remove and reinstall with dpkg when i wanted to upgrade a installed package02:05
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tzbishopWoW! dpkg -i worked. kickoff is wonderfully working.....kubuntu is so practical :)02:07
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tzbishopgoodthing: http://home.kde.org/~binner/kickoff/sneak_preview.html02:07
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tzbishopgoodthing: new K-Menu created by SuSE 10.2. it's practical, nice, beautiful ;)02:08
Rob-Westim trying to play a flash game but it wont play02:08
Rob-Westi installed flash02:08
Rob-West!flash02:09
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:09
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ubuntuCan someone help me avoid not having to go back to the pit of Windows hell by helping me get my USB touchscreen working02:10
kai_can some one help me with my kaffeine02:10
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geniidoes anyone have an aspirin or two? ;)02:10
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kai_...it crashes on start-up02:11
sdradoes the feisty herd1 already have beryl installed and working with it?02:11
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kai_what can i do? of course I  tryed installin/reinstalling02:11
geniiI can't get feisty to install yet... half the screen disappears on step 302:11
sdrao02:12
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kai_is there another way of thourgly remove and the re-install?02:12
flaccidi've got the "X" screensaver bug. anybody got a link on how to fix it?02:12
geniigoodthing Thx02:12
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flaccid!xbug02:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xbug - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:12
paocomqueijobrasil02:13
faeryNatsukihello!02:13
flaccidanyone know about that... the screensaver goes to a white xorg X logo02:13
paocomqueijoalguem fala protugues?02:13
flaccid!bugs02:13
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots02:13
paocomqueijoportugues*02:13
genii!br02:14
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.02:14
paocomqueijoalguem fala portugues??????????02:14
genii!pt02:14
paocomqueijoe como eh que faz isso?02:14
ubuntuIs there like a Ubuntu Hardware channel or site?02:15
flaccid!hardware02:16
ubotuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport02:16
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genii!hcl02:17
ubotuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport02:17
geniihmm02:17
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sGorwoodI have a fresh install of kubunty 6.10.  I have one puzzlement.  I am missing the Power Management icon in the System Settings window.  It worked on 6.06, bit is missing in 6.10.  Anyone have any ideas as to how to make it appear?02:22
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flaccid i wish they would fix this https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdeartwork/+bug/7099102:24
goodthingsGorwood: the menu's in system settings are change a little between 6.06 and 6.10, for what i know it is still there02:24
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darkoneed help with creative sb card02:26
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sGorwoodI see it in screen shots that I see on the Web; and I haven't found many complaints when I tried to google the problem; so I think that it is a problem with my install, not a generic problem with Kubuntu.  Does anyone know what executable the icon invokes?  If I know that, I could just add the link myself.02:27
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darkoanyone knows solutoin with Creative Live cards02:28
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Chaniargh02:29
Chanisynaptics drivers seem to be very buggy in edgy02:29
darkoi installed latest alsa drivers02:29
darkobut it just stop responding02:30
darkonow i can see in mixer all parametars02:30
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darkobut i think there is no active driver for sb live02:30
darkoanyone02:30
darko?02:30
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sikunis there a way to manually turn my cpu fan on ( on a laptop ) ?02:37
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phobiacsikun: What laptop?02:38
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sikuni have a gateway solo 115002:38
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Lathiatthats very laptop specific02:39
Lathiatgoogle around02:39
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phobiacHmm, I have no idea and google seems to not be very helpful.02:39
Lathiatthen perhaps no one has done it02:40
sikuni've been searching google for a while02:40
phobiacHowever I can think of two ways to do it02:40
phobiac1) Write a program that can do it02:40
Lathiatcheck /proc/acpi/fan02:40
phobiac2) Trick the computer into thinking it's hotter then it really is.02:40
sikunhow would i trick it?02:41
Lathiathttp://www.geocities.com/acarirfan/solo-1450ls.html02:41
phobiacNo idea02:41
phobiacEither way you'd probably end up writing some code, however 2 seems the much easier route.02:41
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sikunwell i saw this... echo "force_on:1" > /proc/acpi/fan/FAN1/state but.. when i do that i get 'permission denied' but that also was for a fedora distro02:42
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sikunLathiat : thanks... i'll try some of that out02:43
Lathiatsikun: where you root when doing that02:44
sikunyes02:44
sikunwell, i was doing sudo02:45
BrianSteffens|zzanyone know the name of the ktorrent upnp plugin for use in sudo apt-get install?02:45
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phobiacBrian: Aren't the plugins automatically installed and you just have to enable them?02:46
circtheyve always been for me02:46
BrianSteffens|zzphobiac oo good call haha. yep02:47
BrianSteffens|zzthanks02:47
phobiacNo problem02:47
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Ash-Foxhttp://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=36077 <- heh, neat little hack to get GTK apps to use KDE file dialogs.02:53
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Ace2016Hi all03:03
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Ace2016whats "write-intent bitmapping"?????03:03
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shenmue!htop03:18
ubotuhtop: interactive processes viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.2-1 (edgy), package size 42 kB, installed size 172 kB03:18
faeryNatsukihello03:19
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faeryNatsukiant way to place winamp or xmms skins in amarok?03:19
lupine_85faeryNatsuki: not AFAIK03:19
faeryNatsukilupine_85: what is afaik?03:20
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lupine_851. install bsdgames, then you can use "wtf is <thing>".03:21
lupine_852. it stands for "as far as I know"03:21
RoKFiTcan anyone help?  I'm stuck on the installer of feisty, install software is at 6%03:22
RoKFiTseems to not be moving] 03:22
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BrianSteffens|zzdo i have to issue a umount command on a mounted hdd before i can physically remove it?03:23
_kuja_whoa, beryl is going nuts o.O03:23
RoKFiT_kuja_, help me03:23
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RoKFiTfeisty's installer is stuck at 6% for adding software03:23
RoKFiTi just burned the cd03:24
_kuja_RoKFiT ... stuck isn't good, did you check the md5 sums before you went to install?03:24
RoKFiThow do i do that?03:24
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_kuja_Well, the place where you download it from has the md5 sums available to download right next to the file (it's a .MD5 file, very very small text file)03:24
RoKFiTi don't believe the problem is that03:25
_kuja_I do.03:25
RoKFiToh03:25
_kuja_Corrupt downloads and corrupt burns are all but common enough.03:25
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goodthingbtw, feisty desktop makes my screens to go purple as soon as i hit next at keyboard type03:26
rizwaanexactly..03:26
rizwaani can't install feisty, too!03:26
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_kuja_I have feisty running fine, inside a virtual machine though.03:27
goodthingwell, you could try text install, but i was out of disks...03:27
_kuja_I did it the insane way.03:27
rizwaanfeisty alternate-install also hangs after keyboard03:27
rizwaanselection03:27
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_kuja_I dist-upgraded to feisty :)03:28
rizwaanme too.. dist-upgraded03:28
_kuja_And why in the world is this window b&w ...03:28
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rizwaanbut feisty should be installable.. from the media..03:28
rizwaanfeisty is way faster than edgy03:28
naught101is feisty going to have kde4 as standard?03:29
_kuja_rizwaan, what's faster about it?03:29
_kuja_naught101: no03:29
naught101damn03:29
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naught101feisty is 7.04, right?03:29
rizwaanapplication response.. konqueror shows up in less than 1 sec.. in feisty03:29
goodthingyep03:30
_kuja_As soon as kde4 is available, it will be packaged and released the same way as other updates are done, AFAIK03:30
rizwaanand 3 secs in edgy03:30
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naught101yeah, I'd just rather do a complete CD install..03:30
LucianSolarisI need someone to assist me with getting an external monitor on a laptop to not be streched (like the panel, which is a wxga screen).  I need to know how to do this in X.  the laptop panel backlight inverter is dead and I am dependent on the external monitor.  MergedFB fixes it but i'm stuck in 1024x768 and the monitors system settings is broken.  PLEASE HELP ME!!!03:30
dan_Hello! I try connecting my mp3 player to the usb port and nothing happens (tail -f /var/log/messages). I tried mounting it manually, but I get some errors... Could anyone help me?03:30
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tzbishophey03:32
rizwaandan, try the other usb ports..03:32
_kuja_LucianSolaris, try running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  by chance?03:33
_kuja_rizwaan: I have konqueror showing up in03:33
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_kuja_**less than 0.25s in edgy03:34
rizwaanwell, for my hardware, feisty is faster.. responsive..03:34
_kuja_konqueror -> settings -> configure konqueror -> performance, preload a few instances.03:34
_kuja_make sure one is preloaded at all times03:34
rizwaanyes, i know that..03:34
rizwaanpreloading causes cd lock, sometimes..03:34
_kuja_cd lock?03:35
rizwaancan't eject the cd/dvd03:35
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_kuja_That's a different problem, I think.03:35
Schuenemannis there a bug in KDE scrollbars?03:35
rizwaanscrollbars..?03:35
Schuenemannyes03:35
_kuja_Make sure you're not in /media/cdrom in any programs before ejecting and you should be fine rizwaan03:36
dan_rizwaan: I just tried, nothing happens and I can't mount it manually... =/ (As far as I know, my mp3 player is supposed to be /dev/sda1, rite?)03:36
Schuenemannon the right or bottom side, there are always 2 arrows03:36
_kuja_What sort of bug?03:36
_kuja_That's no bug03:36
_kuja_One goes up, one goes down03:36
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Schuenemannnope03:36
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Schuenemannthere are 3 arrows in total03:36
_kuja_An up arrow, and a down arrow03:36
circsda1 is a scsi hd03:36
Schuenemann1 on top and 2 on bottom03:36
rizwaandan, try "dmesg" after inserting the usb/mp3 player in the usb port03:36
Schuenemann2 up and 1 down03:36
_kuja_I know03:36
_kuja_look at them closely03:37
_kuja_one points up, one points down03:37
dan_rizwaan: should I paste the usb part of dmesg here?03:37
Schuenemannyeah, but the one that points up does not work03:37
rizwaannot here..03:37
rizwaanusing pastebin03:37
Schuenemannwell, it is working in konversation, but not in firefox, for example03:37
_kuja_Works for me?03:37
_kuja_Firefox isn't a kde app, that could be the problem.03:37
Schuenemannhmmm....03:38
Schuenemannworks in konqueror too03:38
_kuja_*tests* and Kopete03:38
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rizwaanden, http://rafb.net/paste03:38
SchuenemannI guess you're right03:38
_kuja_It might be a bug to have the up arrow on the bottom in non-kde apps, I'm not sure.03:39
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rizwaanthere's gtk-qt thing which fixes the firefox problem in appearance..03:40
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Schuenemannwhat is it?03:40
rizwaansystem-settings-> appearance -> gtk-qt03:40
rizwaanthere's something called 'fix scrollbar for firefox'03:40
Schuenemannnot for me03:41
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Schuenemann!gtk03:41
MattQcCa!UserDir03:41
ubotuGTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of Gnome and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI03:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about UserDir - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:41
rizwaangtk style03:41
_kuja_I see it there in the gtk-qt ...03:41
Schuenemannthere is use another style03:41
Schuenemannqt or raleigh03:42
_kuja_below that should be fonts selection, and below that a note about the firefox fix ....03:42
rizwaan"install scrollbar fix" button03:42
Schuenemannnot for me... I'm using dapper03:42
BrianSteffenshow can i shutdown and restart X without rebooting my actual system?03:43
Schuenemannctrl + alt + backspace ?03:43
MattQcCaCtrl+Alt+Backspace03:43
BrianSteffenstyty03:43
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_kuja_That or logout, then you can restart x from kdm03:43
Schuenemannrizwaan: are you using edgy?03:43
rizwaani'm using feisty03:44
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Schuenemannmaybe there isn't that option in dapper03:44
BrianSteffensif i logout i'll get a fullscreen terminal?03:44
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rizwaanuse releigh03:44
_kuja_I'm going to see if it's there in dapper or not03:44
rizwaani hope that'll fix the scroll bar03:44
rizwaanneed to restart firefox03:44
MattQcCaanyone has a clue why I get a Forbidden when using the UserDir module in apache?03:44
dan_rizwaan: 'tis here =) http://rafb.net/paste/results/AX4CMU54.html03:44
rizwaank03:45
Schuenemannnow firefox is very ugly heheh03:45
_kuja_Wasn't it ugly before? j/k03:45
Schuenemannnot that much!03:45
_kuja_Like windows 95 type ugly?03:45
Schuenemannlike motif, I think03:46
rizwaandan, dmesg should show "sda" or "sdb" or "sdc"03:46
_kuja_same idea03:46
dan_rizwaan: Ahn... Im gonna paste the entire dmesg now, ok?03:46
rizwaanok03:46
lupine_85!pastebin03:46
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)03:46
_kuja_Probably more realistically like what gtk apps look like without having gtk-qt installed.03:46
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BrianSteffenswow Feisty is out =X man with how fast linux operating systems update you could have a full-time job of just staying on top haha03:47
lupine_85it's not out :p03:47
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BrianSteffenspreview thingy though ;P03:47
Schuenemannand that made an extension vanish, too03:47
Schuenemannthe tab*03:48
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_kuja_!Feisty03:48
ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+103:48
dan_rizwaan: http://rafb.net/paste/results/cFJygT38.html03:49
rizwaank03:49
joshysdgfdsgtgdfsg03:49
joshyjhh+03:49
joshyopdjgd03:49
joshyspam03:49
_kuja_o.O spam is bad for you joshy03:50
joshyhaha you're not allowed to kickban /me03:50
_kuja_No, but I know who is.03:50
Schuenemannyeah...03:50
joshyif am i allowed to03:50
joshy... /kickban _kuja_03:51
joshylol03:51
_kuja_You're boring me joshy03:51
geniiDoes anyone know how much space it takes to mirror dapper? I just did it for edgy, was about 31Gb... about same do you think? Or are they sharing some stuff?03:51
joshysry for spam03:51
_kuja_genii: it would likely be about the same03:51
joshy_kuja_: make me funny03:52
rizwaandan, ohci_hcd 0000:00:01.2: can't setup03:52
rizwaandan, either your usb ports are bad or you need to upgrade the kernel03:52
genii-kuja OK thanks03:52
joshy_kuja_: rulez03:52
joshylol03:52
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joshyrofl03:53
joshyxD03:53
joshycola-rum rulez03:53
rizwaandan, r u using edgy..???03:53
joshycola-rum ftw03:53
dan_rizwaan: Ahn ... I can mount it with other OS, it means I have to upgrade the kernel?03:53
jerpI guess building a debian chroot can't hurt anything03:53
dan_rizwaan: Yep!03:53
rizwaanhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3394403:54
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joshylfg strat princess run03:54
goodthingjoshy: you'd better stop now, plz03:54
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ChaniI'm having trouble installing the flash plugin.03:54
ChaniSetting up flashplugin-nonfree (7.0.68~ubuntu3) ...03:54
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ChaniDownloading...03:54
Chaniit's got that far and no further03:54
joshygoodthing: you03:54
Chanibeen staring at it for 15 mins or so03:54
joshy're not root03:54
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geniiAnyone know if there is a way to chroot /target after an automated netboot install then do a HUP with sshd?03:55
joshyxD03:55
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joshycorrect kuja ;)03:55
goodthing_kuja_: exactly my thought03:55
joshy=D03:55
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_kuja_D*** I'm good.03:55
joshy:)03:55
geniiSome preseed/late_command etc?03:55
joshy_kuja_: booooooooooooooooring03:56
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_kuja_*powers on03:56
joshylol03:56
_kuja_It's not my fault that my fingers are dyslexic!03:57
joshy_kuja_: hack /127.0.0.103:57
joshyXD03:57
dan_rizwaan: Thank you for your help. It means I need a kernel upgrade?03:58
rizwaandan, i guess so..03:58
joshy_kuja_: what's up03:59
_kuja_joshy: not too much03:59
_kuja_joshy: Just trying to burn time, one of the things I'm best at03:59
joshy_kuja_: don't boring me03:59
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genii?#ubuntu04:00
geniibleh04:00
joshy_kuja_: .......04:00
jerpIs there a way to boost some contrast for the taskbar?  Everywhere else I have no problem with the color level.04:00
BrianSteffensi just downloaded the java sdk thing and it's a .sh file. how do i install this?04:01
joshy!qkill _kuja_04:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about qkill _kuja_ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:01
_kuja_jerp, I do recall there being a contrast slider in appearance -> colors04:01
_kuja_sudo kill -9 joshy04:02
goodthingBrianSteffens: make the file executable and run it with ./file.sh04:02
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ForgeAusI'm ba-ack04:02
joshywb04:02
jerpok, I'll take a look04:02
ForgeAusI can't believe I just mounted a linux partition under XP!04:02
ForgeAusand it works like a charm!04:02
joshygz04:02
geniiheh _kuja_04:02
BrianSteffensgoodthing ty04:02
_kuja_!botsnack04:02
ubotuYum!04:02
ForgeAus(from a VMWare image too!)04:03
_kuja_ForgeAus, from fsdriver.org, I presume?04:03
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ForgeAususing VMware mounting utility + Ext2IFS (which apparently reads ex3 too)04:03
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=== joshy need backup
ForgeAusI mounted it as L: :)04:04
geniiCool04:04
ForgeAusyup thats the site kija :)04:04
_kuja_cp --backup joshy joshy.bak04:04
bLaZeD!iso04:04
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning.04:04
ForgeAusok so now I need the path to apt-get installer junk again...04:04
joshy!rofl04:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rofl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:04
geniitail joshy >%2> /dev/null04:05
joshy!iso04:05
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning.04:05
ForgeAusmy disk is FAR overloaded with installer stuff04:05
joshy!fat04:05
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse04:05
joshy!fuse04:05
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse04:05
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joshy!ntfs04:05
joshy!ntfs04:05
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse04:05
BluesKajLBB, how are you making out with the partitions ?04:06
_kuja_joshy: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/ntfs-3g, another way04:06
joshy_kuja_: /me just kidding04:07
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joshy_kuja_: /me kickban /me please04:07
larson9999windows sucks04:07
joshyvm rulez04:07
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matthewjoshy, what's with all the /me stuff?04:08
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goodthingno, you are drunk04:08
_kuja_joshy is apparantly drunk ...04:08
matthew!etiquette | joshy04:08
ubotujoshy: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam, !AskTheBot - and most importantly, use common sense :-)04:08
BrianSteffens!Language04:09
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.04:09
matthew!guidelines | joshy04:09
ubotujoshy: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines04:09
joshy!guidelines04:09
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines04:09
robotgeekmatthew: please use >04:09
joshy!Guidelines04:09
matthewrobotgeek, will that pm them?04:09
matthewprivate message them?04:09
joshy!Guidelines04:09
joshy!Guidelines04:09
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines04:09
robotgeekmatthew: yes, but i dont know if it will work for you as you are unidentified04:10
geniimatthew Hi :) Any luck on Skype/soundcard issues?04:10
joshy!me was mtd04:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about me was mtd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:10
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joshymtd rulez04:10
matthewgenii, hey, long time no see...nope, the only options I had were to enable|disable it...no irq options anywhere04:10
joshyand wimmer toooooooooooo04:10
BluesKaj!apache04:10
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)04:10
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robotgeekjoshy: hmm, how is that relevant?04:10
matthewrobotgeek, what do you mean, "unidentified"?04:10
matthew!offtopic > joshy04:11
joshylook for hgb04:11
goodthingjoshy: you might not like the sound of it at the moment, but do you know you are lowering yourself and the channel?04:11
robotgeekmatthew: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#identify04:11
geniiWeird it should have apache separate from lamp04:11
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_kuja_hmm, dapper is 50% installed ....... so time consuming04:12
joshy_kuja_: you're boring04:12
_kuja_That's nice joshy04:12
joshyrofl04:12
robotgeekjoshy: could you please keep it ontopic?04:12
matthew_kuja_, actually, it's much faster than installing windoze...plus, no reboots...04:12
_kuja_Truth04:12
_kuja_I think windows takes about a half hour ...04:13
_kuja_It might be less04:13
geniiAnyone do any kind of preseed install before?04:13
robotgeekhah, i just blogged about that 5 minutes ago!04:13
joshyontopic???? wtf???04:13
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joshyontopic sux04:13
matthew_kuja_, at least...I think my shortest install time w/ Windoze (don't look at me like that, I work at a computer store!) is an hour04:13
matthew_kuja_, and that's w/o the drivers if needed...stuff like that04:14
geniinot to mention the daily security updates04:14
_kuja_My computer is pretty quick :D04:14
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joshy_kuja_: you04:14
robotgeekjoshy: then, maybe you can leave?04:14
joshymaybe04:14
robotgeekjoshy: or talk in #kubuntu-offtopic04:14
goodthingjoshy: you are starting to get annoying now04:14
matthewjoshy, please stay, I love to read what you have to say04:14
geniigoodthing What, only now? lol04:14
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_kuja_genii, matthew: I just install a decent firewall and internet browser, and then never update windows again ... call it lazyness. Well, that's how I behaved with my last windows install anyway. Oh, and I didn't run it as administrator either.04:15
joshy XD04:15
joshyreverse XD04:15
matthew_kuja_, hmm...I prefer linux for the abundance of programs available and price (free)04:15
matthew_kuja_, my experience has been that linux is less stable than XP...04:16
ForgeAusCrossmeta have another way of doing it... via NFS basically (mount a NFS system then plugin Ext2/3 riserfs, etc into it04:16
joshymatthew: is sucking _kuja_ dick04:16
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_kuja_matthew: I that install of windows is on my parents computer. I'd hate to take away their precious windows (well, no I wouldn't, it's just I've not gotten away with it yet)04:16
matthew!language > joshy04:16
matthewthanks, robotgeek04:16
_kuja_whoo, that's better.04:17
geniithanks04:17
matthew_kuja_, lol, I know what you mean, would love to do the same for my family, but they're using dialup...04:17
matthewat least I set my little bro up w/ a kubuntu box...04:17
matthewlol04:17
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_kuja_Me too04:17
_kuja_The little brother part anyway04:17
matthew_kuja_, I find it's easier getting little kids to change rather than adults...04:18
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_kuja_I'm still living with my parents ... with the expense of these student loans I probably will be for some time04:18
matthewgenii, is there a way to set irq's from within kubuntu?04:18
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matthewI know what you mean04:18
geniikids aren't afraid of ripping stuff apart to see how it works :) Thats why linux is hours of entertainment04:18
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matthewgenii, that's exactly right04:18
joshyre04:18
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robotgeekjoshy: you are welcome if you behave04:19
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geniimatthew Well, I suspect you could forcibly set it within /etc/modules04:19
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_kuja_I can't convince my brother to use it in such a manner. He's too busy reading (which is okay)04:19
matthewgenii, I remember my mom telling me a few years ago that she didn't want to break anything by fiddling w/ settings...I told her I like to do it cause if I do break something, I'm forced to figure out how to fix it...04:19
tzbishopIn which rep. is libxine-extracodecs ? (main, universal, etc)04:20
matthewgenii, nah, don't want to get to into it...04:20
robotgeek!info libxine-extracodecs04:20
matthew!multiverse04:20
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB04:20
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:20
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BluesKajripping stuff apart is no prob , but for some it's getting it work after putting it back together that is. :)04:20
genii!ubuntu-installer04:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-installer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:20
matthewBluesKaj, I can relate04:20
_kuja_BluesKaj, well, he has me, so I don't think that would be as big a problem.04:21
=== joshy sorry
=== joshy ok; sooooooooooooooo sorrrrrry
daftvaderHi does anyone know how to change the font size to the login screen?04:21
geniihe ubotu seems somewhat confused at times04:21
_kuja_He's like my parents .... the moment something goes wrong they come crying to me.04:21
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matthew_kuja_, the way I got him to stay w/ linux: I told him I would get him a computer, but he could _never_ install windows on it...lol04:22
=== wimmer sooooooooooooooo sorrrrrry toooooooooooooo
matthewcan we ban wimmer/joshy yet?04:22
_kuja_I gave him the computer. He's only 13 so he won't be able to afford a Windows license anytime soon :P04:22
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matthew_kuja_, nicely done.04:22
goodthingmay i request someone to kick and ban joshy/wimmer?04:22
wimmerhehe you're not +o04:22
geniiHe'll probably use bittorrent to d/l a windoze iso04:23
matthewtalk to robotgeek  about that04:23
geniiheh04:23
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blblbhaha04:23
BluesKajI built a windows pc from some parts , gave it to the seniors center ...was an old 233mhz MMX with 128mb RAM and 6G HDD ...good for surfing and email . An guy there had some experience with linux so he put ubuntu on it in less than 2 hrs was on the net :004:23
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_kuja_genii: he has no interest in computers, so long as what he has works he won't do anything.04:23
matthewgenii, yeah, I did that, for the same reason...but I got hit with the WGA terror.04:23
rizwaanhttp://www.pledgebank.com/nouveaudriver04:23
ForgeAusyay just deleted 400mb!04:23
matthewBluesKaj, wait...an old guy had experience w/ linux?04:23
BluesKajyup, unix actually04:24
goodthingthanks :)04:24
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matthewBluesKaj, amazing...I love to hear peoples stories...not the boring stuff, but their backgrounds....you know?04:24
matthewmakes you see that there is more than a bunch of wrinkles and drool...lol04:24
matthewno offense intended to anyone04:25
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geniiWhere I work we have 2500+ used city computers, I am netboot-installing batches of them to edgy but may have to downgrade to dapper for some crap to work right04:25
matthewgenii, you are magical!04:25
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Rob-Westi need help04:25
matthewgenii, 2500+?04:25
BluesKajhe had been fooling with linux for a number of yrs ...was an electronics guy , who still fixed old tv sets for ppl ...neat old dude04:25
geniimatthew heh :)04:25
matthewgenii, want to send me one?04:25
matthewlol, if it's better than what I've got...PIII @ 933Mhz w/ 512Mb RAM...04:26
Rob-Westi hid the main tool bar for Konversation and i cant get it back04:26
geniimatthew Originally 3168 but some were kaput so we broke em down for parts...also I got a bunch old dual-cpu and quad-cpu servers outta the deal04:26
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matthewgenii, very nice...what speeds are the multi-procs rated for?04:27
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geniimatthew We are in Toronto ... selling them complete including a net connection for $79 canadian04:27
robotgeek_kuja_: are you using the wiki guide for it?04:27
Carbon_MonoxideI can't connect to mysqld with "-h [ip_addr] " but success with "-h localhost".04:27
matthewgenii, what are the specs on an average machine?04:27
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Carbon_MonoxideHow to solve this issue?04:27
BluesKajRob-West, ctrl + M04:27
labinet10yes04:27
labinet10uhh..04:27
_kuja_robotgeek, I used it when I installed vmware server, I've got feisty and kubuntu dapper set up in VMs so far04:28
geniimatthew Well, they are old pieces of crap to be sure LOL butI can put up to a 1.2 P3 in each slot so long as the stepping and cache are matched04:28
genii100 FSB tho04:28
e1meranyone experience problems on sounds, sometimes my laptop outputs its sound to its speaker despite an earphone is plugged in04:28
matthewgenii, hmm, your selling multi-cpu machines to customers?04:28
robotgeek_kuja_: what's the difference between server/player (or is it documented on the wiki?)04:28
_kuja_the server lets you create vms, it's under a non-free license, but it's a free download04:29
matthewgenii, I mean, to lay-people?04:29
geniimatthew The specs for the lowest machine are p2 400 Optiplex GX1 ..192 Mb Ram, 6.5 Gb HD, various modems ... ESS1869 sound04:29
_kuja_At least, that's what I gathered from it04:29
robotgeek_kuja_: i need to run feisty in a vm, so i was looking04:29
matthewgenii, no standardization between machines?04:30
geniimatthew The next is a P3 733 or 800 256 Mb 10Gb HD04:30
geniimatthew All the P2 are identical... all the P3 are identical etc04:30
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geniithe p3 are optiplex gx1004:30
matthewgenii, ah, ok, different prices for different machine "classes"?04:30
geniigx11004:30
dan_Hello, I can't access or mount my mp3 player and I get ohci_hcd 0000:00:01.2: can't setup from my dmesg. I was told to upgrade my kernel, but I already use 2.6.17.10 ... Does anyone have an idea? Thanks.04:30
geniimatthew Yeah ... the P3 are $9004:31
e1meranyone experience problems on sounds, sometimes my laptop outputs its sound to its speaker despite an earphone is plugged in04:31
geniimonitor, kb, mouse etc included04:31
robotgeek_kuja_: so, if i downloaded the iso for feisty, i should be able to install it using vmware server? the vmplayer needs some vmx images, i gather?04:31
BluesKajgenii, Ty Domi's brother's deal with the city ...each pc cost over 10k on that contract :)04:31
matthewgenii, what're the highest spec'ed machines?04:32
dave_anyone having troubling playing mp3 in kubuntu i still cant get any pluging to work becasue i dont know all about the adept ad nsudo04:32
matthewBluesKaj, who is Domi?04:32
geniiBlues LOL yeah thats why we got em.... they are trying to wash their hands of it all04:32
robotgeek!mp3 > dave_04:32
BluesKajLeafs hockey player, who just retired04:32
matthewBluesKaj, 10k per? roflmao @ the man04:33
matthewlol04:33
geniimatthew Highest spec machine we have (about 25 of) non dual/quad etc is P4 1.6 512, 40HD04:33
matthewgenii, how many RAM slots?04:33
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BluesKajwas a royal scam , genii & matthew04:33
geniimatthew On the P4 2 sdram04:33
matthewgenii, how much for one of those?04:34
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geniimatthew $13904:34
BluesKajthat also included , setting up WANs' thos but the outcome was at a cost of 10K per pc04:34
_kuja_robotgeek, indeed you should. I did it the stupid/hard way, and dist-upgraded edgy in the VM04:34
geniiAll systems come with 1 year internet dialup with my isp04:34
matthewgenii, hmmm, not too bad...any idea if you could sell one to me? w/o the ISP thing, of course..lol04:34
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robotgeek_kuja_: i dont see the easier way on the wiki, how to do it?04:35
matthewgenii, that machine would almost double my processing power...lol04:35
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_kuja_robotgeek: pull up konqueror, uwiki VmwareServer04:35
geniimatthew LOL ... contact my work email at tfnoffice@torfree.net04:35
_kuja_That's the guide I used04:35
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matthewgenii, you use a TOR proxy?04:36
labinet10_uukk04:36
robotgeek_kuja_: thanks, was blind :)04:36
labinet10_yuuk04:36
labinet10_yuuk04:36
labinet10_yuyayuuk04:36
geniimatthew We own our own servers, they are at 151 Front St here in Toronto04:36
labinet10_sex04:36
matthewgreat, another spammer...04:36
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matthewthanks again, robotgeek04:37
matthewgenii, ah...so, more privacy for consumers/customers?04:37
geniimatthew Currently we have torfree.net  tfnet.ca  tfn.to and some ancient full country dotterd domains like freenet.on.ca etc04:37
robotgeekno prob, matthew04:37
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dave_so no ideas?04:38
greenlanternJust switched to Kubuntu.  Love it.04:38
geniimatthew Yeah we are great believers in free speech etc04:38
_kuja_Kubuntu is great :)04:38
_kuja_Best thing since, ummmm, ummm, Debian?04:39
geniiYes Kubuntu rocks :)04:39
ChainsawHas anybody been able to get a Brother MFC-210C to work with Kubuntu?04:39
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greenlanternI started with gnome, but this is much more powerful and easy to use.04:39
matthewgenii, good to see that in an ISP...most try to throttle BT traffic04:39
matthewgenii, just sent the email...04:40
jerpDoes anyone have a couple good icon suggestions for a newb?04:40
matthewgenii, may take a while for the actual purchase, seeing as I'm poor from Christmas....lol04:40
geniimatthew Cool. I have to sort it out with my boss and I'll have an answer for you by Thurs04:40
_kuja_greenlantern: my thoughts exactly04:40
matthewgenii, cool. thanks a lot!04:40
_kuja_Chainsaw, What's that?04:40
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matthew_kuja_, it's a printer...04:41
Chainsawkuja, It's a Brother multifunction printer.04:41
ChainsawScanner and fax04:41
geniiShamelss self plug: buy Kubuntu PCs at cut-rate Christmas prices from Toronto FreeNet! Get em before Tai Domi does!04:41
matthewChainsaw, I've got an identical model...but it's on a windows machine.04:41
_kuja_Funny, when I read multifunction, I saw malfunction, hehe. Have you taken a look on the ubuntuforums?04:41
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matthewgenii, very nice04:41
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ChainsawMine used to be as well matthew until I upgraded to Kubuntu.04:42
ChainsawNow I cannot get Kubuntu to recognize it.04:42
matthewChainsaw, lol, can't help you there...I've had trouble w/ printers myself04:42
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geniiI had the same prob with a Xerox WorkStaion 35 .... I finally gave up on it after like a few months of twiddling04:43
ChainsawBrother has a deb for it allegedly, but Kubuntu doesn't recognize it.04:44
geniiI noticed Dell is shipping a lot of these all-in-ones that won't work with win9x or *nix04:44
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geniichainsaw It may be for a specific kernel version?04:45
_kuja_Printers are in general a royal pain in the butt to get working.04:45
ChainsawYeah genii, I have had to use some of those multifunction Dell printers.  They don't work with much of anything.04:46
matthewgenii, where I work, we've had about 20 eMachine computers come in w/ blown powersupplies...most of the time there is a blasted chip on the mobo as well...lol, totally sucks for the customer04:46
ChainsawIronically, the TWAIN drivers work great.  I can scan all day long, just can't print.04:47
geniimatthew I dunno if you ever heard of IPC computers... sortof offbrand HP etc... the running joke used to be IPC was for Incredible Piece of Crap04:47
matthewgenii, what is IPC?04:47
geniiwe had 19 of 20 come back 1 week04:47
goodthingwhat file system should be used for software raid?04:48
BluesKajnodding off ...time for old guys to sackout ...nite all04:48
geniiIPC used to be an all-on-motherboard deal... packard-Bell stuff (proprietary crap like Dell)04:48
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_kuja_you have to create a RAID partition first04:48
_kuja_then you can put whatever you want on it. I like xfs04:48
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goodthing_kuja_: you mean with cfdisk?04:48
matthewgenii, ah, ok. I meant that the southbridge would have a melted spot on it, with scorched sticker on top, lol04:48
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geniiHard drive cabled hotglued in etc04:49
_kuja_erm, I'd set it up with the ubuntu alternate installer, it makes it a piece of cake04:49
geniiHeh... thats what heatsinks are for :)04:49
goodthing_kuja_: ah, no i am not using raid for the OS, i am adding raid as backups04:49
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matthewgenii, no, I mean, like, _holes_ through the chip!04:49
matthewfrom power spikes...04:50
geniiSounds like extremely crappy power smoothing04:50
_kuja_goodthing, I know, I'm just saying that the alternate installer makes it really easy04:50
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_kuja_parted can probably do a good job too, great tool.04:50
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matthewgenii, and it wasn't the southbridge...it was some kind of Darlington transistor that was heatsinked to a piece of metal...near the processor...04:50
brandon_!nvidia04:50
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:51
goodthing_kuja_: ah, i didn't got that, thnx04:51
geniimatthew on discussions.hardwarecentral.com I see a lot of complaining about Emachines04:52
matthewugh, it's 36 degrees outside...04:52
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matthewgenii, yeah, eMachines are no good04:52
geniiAh 36 Fahrenheit04:52
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matthewgenii, yeah, sometimes I wish liquid weather wasn't right all the time!04:53
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BrianSteffenswell i wish i knew how to download liquid weather! ;p04:54
BrianSteffensi get like a php file when i click a mirror lol04:54
matthewBrianSteffens, takes a little bit of doing...04:54
matthewBrianSteffens, you need to use a different mirror...04:54
matthewI used the 2nd or 3rd one, I think04:54
BrianSteffensmatthew tried all 4 O_O04:54
matthew0_o04:55
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matthewBrianSteffens, want me to send a copy to you through email?04:55
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BrianSteffensmatthew hey now, that'd be excellent. briansteffens@gmail.com please :)04:55
goodthing_kuja_: what makes you think the text install is easy for making two RAID disks? (i cannot come to a 100% filtering process to start deciding)04:55
matthewBrianSteffens, ok, h/o04:56
matthewgenii, I just got a "mail returned" message...what's the right email address for you?04:56
geniimatthew Should be tfnoffice or maybe case TFNOffice @torfree.net04:57
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geniimatthew Tho it may have been switched to foil spam this week04:57
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matthewgenii, ok...my email is computingsolutionsbiz@gmail...if you want to make a filter for that...or whatever...04:58
_kuja_goodthing: because I've done it before04:58
nicwerd04:58
matthewBrianSteffens, sending now...just save to disk and open w/ superkaramba04:58
robotgeekmatthew: uhoh, your email is now on the internet. more spam to you.04:58
BrianSteffenstyvm :)04:58
geniiOK hangon I'll send you one in a minute and then just reply to it04:58
matthewrobotgeek, lol, yeah, oh well...04:59
robotgeekmatthew: this is a publically archived channel04:59
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matthewrobotgeek, whoops04:59
matthewlol04:59
Omnifrog my cats breath smells like cat food04:59
Dr_willissmell the other end...04:59
Omnifrogeew04:59
goodthing_kuja_: obvious, hmm, i guess i read a little more before going wild there05:00
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faked_I can't play MIDI's in any of my media players, what's going on?05:00
Omnifrogyour MIDI thing is broke!05:01
Omnifroghehe05:01
robotgeekhmm, actually no05:01
Omnifrogsorry05:01
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Omnifrogignore me05:01
robotgeek!midi > faked_05:01
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faked_thanks.05:01
mankhi all05:02
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mankcan anyone gimme a hand with grub config? I wanted to select the last entry as default05:02
matthewmank, open up your menu.lst05:03
unix_infidelmank: all you need to do is look at /boot/grub/menu.lst05:03
unix_infidelthe comments will tell you how to configure your default entry.05:03
matthewunix_infidel, lol, beat you to it!05:03
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unix_infidelmatthew: you're in luck, i just baked a new batch of cookies :)05:03
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matthewunix_infidel, o...k...05:03
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geniiOK, sent05:04
JRGC_I'm trying to install Kubuntu 6.10 and I want to user reiserfs, but apparently there is no option for Reiserfs. Why is this?05:04
matthewJRGC_, why reiserfs?05:05
mankwell i never liked grub :P05:05
matthewext3 is a journaling fs as well05:05
JRGC_Why?????05:05
matthewmank, you might be interested in lilo05:05
JRGC_What do you mean why, is much faster!05:05
matthew!lilo > mank05:05
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geniigenii ghosting?05:07
unix_infidelreiser is faster for SOME things not ALL things...that's a common misconception.05:07
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unix_infidelfrom a desktop users point of view, speaking in magnitudes, its probably less than the 2 threshold.05:08
mankok, menu.lst is modified, now how can I see the changes without reboot?05:08
matthewmank, you can't05:08
mankx(05:08
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goodthing_kuja_: got it working with this info http://www.mywheel.net/blog/index.php/software-raid-in-ubuntu05:09
goodthingworks like a charm05:10
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matthewBrianSteffens, sorry it's taking so long...gmail gakked on it at first, I think because it was running at the same time...sending again...05:10
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j03shm03hello05:10
geniiAnyone know about preseed/late_command as a way to HUP a netboot machine so no tftp boot etc?Preferable with sshd05:10
mankwhat's 'default   0'?05:10
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j03shm03i just installed feisty and everything was working fine, and now it's booting to a black screen with a flashing "_"05:10
matthewgenii, wow. no. idea.05:10
matthewj03shm03, your xorg.conf isn't configured correctly05:10
j03shm03how can i edit it?05:11
matthewj03shm03, happened to me a few times when I was trying to install fxglrx...05:11
j03shm03i just switched my driver to nvidia05:11
mankk, ill reboot.. thank you guys05:11
Dr_willisj03shm03,  try alt-ctrl-F1 through F6 see if ya get to a console05:11
matthewj03shm03, boot into recovery mode and type in sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:11
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matthewI think05:11
Chaniuhm.05:11
ChaniSetting up flashplugin-nonfree (7.0.68~ubuntu3) ...05:11
ChaniDownloading...  done.05:11
Chaniautomatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes05:12
geniimaybe preseed/late_command string chroot /target && ./etc/init.d/<something>      ?05:12
j03shm03how do i boot into recovery mode05:12
Dr_willisOR is it not even booting? you see the grub/boot logos and info?05:12
matthewhey Chani, long time no see!05:12
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ChaniI can't seem to install flash.05:12
matthewj03shm03, try control + alt+ F105:12
_kuja_Chani: all you need to do is download it, then copy and paste the (one or two) files to your browsers plugin folder05:12
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Chani_kuja_: what exactly do I need to download? apt doesn't tell me05:13
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matthewj03shm03, if that doesn't work, then reboot and when GrUB pops up, hit Esc and selct recovery mode05:13
j03shm03ctrl+_alt+f1 did something, now what05:13
metresHi all05:13
jerpis feisty the one that asks you during the install if you will be wanting to run beryl or compiz?05:13
matthewsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:13
matthewj03shm03, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:13
matthewj03shm03, or, if you're handy with CLI text editors, vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:14
geniinano05:14
matthewj03shm03, and change the driver from nvidia to vesa05:14
matthewgenii, why not vim?05:14
_kuja_kuja: to do what I just said, you would just download the zip file from the adobe website05:14
JRGC_Can someone please tell me which version of Kubuntu is capable of using Reiserfs?05:15
geniimatthew I hate the arcane keystrokes LOL   :q! etc05:15
_kuja_That's for flash 7, ask if you want flash 9 (beta 2) instead05:15
_kuja_vim is awesome05:15
matthewgenii, yeah, I only learned insert and save, lol05:15
geniiWell I still have to put up with vipw anyhow05:15
matthewJRGC_, no idea05:15
Chani_kuja_: ok, I'll go hunt around the site, I guess...05:16
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j03shm03vesa, i want nvidia05:16
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matthewj03shm03, vesa will get you back to a working state.05:16
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_kuja_d = delete, a = append, o = open new line below, O = open new line above, v = visual mode, p = paste, u = undo05:16
matthewj03shm03, I would recommend the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg plan05:16
_kuja_escape puts you back in command moe ...05:17
_kuja_*mode05:17
j03shm03okay i'm in gui, but how do i install nvidia05:17
geniimatthew I dunno ... On these optiplex the i810 *HATES* vesa as a setting. The screen blinks hypnotically forever05:17
matthewgenii, oh, didn't know that...well, then...hmmm05:17
noiesmo!envy | j03shm0305:17
ubotuj03shm03: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy05:17
matthewj03shm03, might want to try something different...05:17
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j03shm03such as what?05:17
_kuja_j03shm03, it installs the latest nvidia05:18
j03shm03what does?05:18
matthewj03shm03, not sure...genii, want to help?05:18
_kuja_the envy script that was just mentioned05:18
j03shm03oh where can i get it?05:18
noiesmo!envy | j03shm0305:18
ubotuj03shm03: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy05:18
matthewj03shm03, this is the link: http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html05:19
noiesmoj03shm03, read the instructions/info ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^05:19
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brandon_!envy05:19
ubotuenvy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy05:19
mankI tried to install edgy in a p3 and mouse don't worked05:19
mank:(05:19
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Chanioh joy, the download stalled05:20
Chanimaybe this is why apt-get gave up: the darn file isn't downloadable05:20
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mankdoes serial mice work in edgy?05:20
mank*works05:20
j03shm03can't i just install nvidia-glx?05:21
geniimatthew I haven't tried the NVidia setup yet,wouldn't be much help I'm afraid05:21
noiesmoj03shm03, are you wanting to run beryl/compiz05:21
j03shm03yes, potentially05:21
_kuja_Chani, that's just great, hmm, might as well try the version 9 then, if the download link for it works05:21
noiesmoj03shm03, use envy05:21
_kuja_http://labs.adobe.com05:21
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j03shm03which script do i want05:22
j03shm03and how do i use it?05:22
mankhave anyone problems with kmplot?05:22
noiesmoj03shm03, what you running edgy05:22
j03shm03feisty05:23
mankwhen I do zoom in the application crash05:23
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noiesmoj03shm03, ok I dont know if envy covers feisty05:24
_kuja_living dangerously eh j03shm0305:24
matthewj03shm03, why are you using feisty?05:24
j03shm03yes05:24
geniigrep kmplot /var/log/Xorg.0.log05:24
noiesmoj03shm03, try ubuntu+1 for help05:24
j03shm03?05:24
j03shm03why does adept_manager keep asking for cdrom to install05:25
noiesmoj03shm03, #ubuntu+1 join channel05:25
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Chani_kuja_: well, I tried following http://www.debianadmin.com/install-flash-player-9-update-in-ubuntu.html05:25
Chanino luck05:25
_kuja_I think envy would probably still work in feisty ....05:25
Chani The HTTP server sent an invalid reply header05:25
ChaniFailed to fetch http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/pool/edgy/3v1n0/flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.21.78.2ubuntu2+3v1ubuntu1_i386.deb The HTTP server sent an invalid reply header05:25
geniij03shm03 You need to comment out the cdrom entry in the /etc/apt/sources.list file05:25
noiesmoChani, 32bit05:25
Chanihuh?05:26
noiesmoChani, dapper or edgy 32bit or 64bit05:26
_kuja_chani, one moment05:26
noiesmoChani, here works fine > http://noiesmo.dnsalias.net/article.php?story=20061031161901533&query=flash05:26
j03shm03wow, feisty really changed from edgy05:27
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_kuja_j03shm03, not yet it hasn't05:27
Chaninoiesmo: I just did a dist-upgrade to edgy. 32-bit.05:27
_kuja_work on feisty has barely begun05:27
Chaniaha, I managed to download the flash 9 files from adobe05:27
noiesmoChani, my link to my site with instructions etc will work05:27
_kuja_currently I think it's just resyncing with debian05:27
Chanibut.. I don't like installing something that's not from a package :/05:28
noiesmoChani, :(05:28
geniiyeah feistyu = pre-alpha 7.04 or 7.0305:28
_kuja_chani, flash 9 is one file. So it's not that bad05:28
j03shm03yeah restart isn't even on the panel05:28
_kuja_libflashplayer.so, and that's it, all you have to do is put it in the plugin folder.05:28
sandboxQuestion for everyone: Running kubuntu 6.10 edgy, I'm trying to install a command line MSN client and after running ./configure I'm getting an error ssl.h not found. Any Suggestions?05:29
Chani_kuja_: it still makes me uncomfortable. I wish there was a way to tell apt-get to use the file I downloaded05:29
j03shm03why can i not use the nvidia driver?05:29
j03shm03nvidia-glx05:29
_kuja_j03shm03, you can05:29
_kuja_let me check something while I'm at it05:29
Chani_kuja_: I'll have to write this down 'cause next time I try to upgrade stuff I'll have forgotten05:29
geniisandbox apt-get install openssh-server05:29
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geniisorry not ssh ...I have ssh on the brain05:30
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geniidisregard last msg05:30
metresdo anyone know how to make my sound works in kaffeine with kubuntu on amd64 ?05:30
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sandboxI'll give it a try. Thanks. (Use to have an old friend named genii too (: )05:30
_kuja_metres, does it work in other apps?05:30
metresyes, with amarok...05:30
geniiandbox Sorry disregard as above05:31
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geniisandbox Sorry disregard as above05:31
_kuja_it's probably a problem with a particular file then ...05:31
matthewBrianSteffens, I just sent you a link to a putfile.com page...you can download it from there!05:31
j03shm03it is fixed!05:31
geniibleh I gotta get the KVM out of here terrible lag + lost letters05:31
geniissl = secure socket layer etc05:32
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_kuja_j03shm03, use the nvidia-glx package05:33
_kuja_it's the same thing envy would install05:33
metreskaffeine reads sound files but no sound in video files...05:33
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_kuja_the 9631 driver.05:33
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matthewif anyone wants to download liquidweather for superkaramba, but hasn't been able to find the actual file, here's a direct link to it. http://putstuff.putfile.com/26688/684066905:33
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matthewmetres, try killall kaffeine05:33
_kuja_liquidweather is good stuff ...... I had used it for so long, maybe I should put it back on my desktop05:33
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geniisandbox I'm at a windoze box right now but try something like apt-cache search ssl  to see if there is a parent package for it somewhere05:34
metreskaffeine: no process killed05:34
geniipreferably source05:34
_kuja_wait, I feel silly and disoriented, I said something and he had already left >.>05:34
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genii_kuja_ I feel silly and disoriented even before they leave :) LOL05:35
_kuja_hahaha05:35
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_kuja_balancing this chat with 2 ims, messing around in a VM, looking for parts for a friend on newegg, and keeping myself sane. It's too much to do all at once, so I skip the last part o.O05:36
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tomlinsDotNettrying to run pouetchess but after 3 moves it closes with error 'libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5b'05:36
tomlinsDotNetany ideas ?05:36
brandon_back05:37
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geniiOK time for obligatory help call for my prob: Anyone know how to chroot on a netboot installed box and do a system HUP for softboot to bypass tftpboot and let parent box in by ssh?05:37
jontechey what do I put a the stop of a shell script? is it like !#usr/bin/bash?05:38
genii(these boxes are headless)05:38
jerpWhere does a person find out if certain codecs are permitted in their country?05:38
matthewjerp, just download them...the notification is just covering the hosts butt05:38
geniijerp odecs you likely won't have a prob with, it's cryptography thats the main prob05:39
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jontecsorry... at the top of a shell script05:39
jerpeww, sneaky05:39
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robotgeekjontec: yes, its called she-bang05:39
jerpthanks for the info :)05:39
_kuja_jerp: I know for certain when they mention that, they're referring primarily to the US ... I know some other countries have similar restrictions though, but I forget which ones05:40
Chaniyaay! flash! :)05:40
superb0wl_yea and you have it backwards shebang is #!05:40
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matthewsuperb0wl_, what is the backwards shebang for?05:40
matthewsuperb0wl_, the end of file?05:41
superb0wl_matthew: bash parse errors :)05:41
matthewsuperb0wl_, ah...lol05:41
geniijontec usually you want #!/bin/bash05:41
geniileading / matters or it's all relative05:41
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intelikeymodprobe: WARNING: Error inserting genrtc05:42
geniiintelikey anything with -vv ?05:43
intelikeytty24 [root@~]  modprobe -vv genrtc05:44
intelikeyinsmod /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/kernel/drivers/char/genrtc.ko05:44
intelikeyFATAL: Error inserting genrtc (/lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/kernel/drivers/char/genrtc.ko): Device or resource busy05:44
intelikeygenii the origenal error is burped out of pppd  i think05:45
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intelikeythis is probably why.     tty24 [root@~]  lsmod | grep rtc05:45
intelikeyrtc                    13492  005:45
geniidoes lsmod |grep genrtc show it installed already?05:46
intelikeyheh05:46
geniitry modprobe instead05:46
intelikeyinstead of what ?05:47
geniibleh need coffee05:47
intelikey:)05:47
geniiLOL sorry looking at "insmod" line above05:47
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geniigood idea ...brb05:47
jontec'night guys! Only one more day of mid-term exams to go!05:47
brandon_where do i change keyboard layout?05:47
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intelikeykcontrol brandon_05:48
brandon_my kcontrol is empty, on feisty05:48
intelikeyooo yuch05:48
brandon_system settings?05:48
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intelikeywell never mind.05:49
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brandon_what do you mean05:50
brandon_what should i do05:50
brandon_lol i try to type the at symbol and the wrong things come out05:50
intelikeyask in #ubuntu+1  i guess05:50
matthewman, there are a lot of peeps using feisty...05:51
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_kuja_brandon_, did you dist-upgrade to feisty? Maybe not everything got upgraded, perhaps some things even got removed.05:52
intelikeymatthew i always stand amazed how many think that alpha means stable and release ready....05:52
murchadh_bhababrandon_, systemsettings should do it forya.05:52
matthewrofl05:52
brandon_kuja, i did a fresh install05:52
_kuja_ah05:52
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matthewmmm, a bowl of golden grahams and three pieces of sourdough toast...gotta love it!05:53
_kuja_Well, if it isn't working, oh well ...05:53
brandon_install kcontrol?05:53
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intelikeyimo edgy should be labled beta still05:53
matthewintelikey, why? It works perfectly for me!05:53
Rob-Westcan someone help me with Konversation05:53
Rob-Westi lost the main toolbar05:54
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brandon_can i adept a new keyboard layer05:54
brandon_layout05:54
_kuja_rob-west: settings -> show main toolbar, I think05:54
Rob-Westi cant find it05:54
_kuja_It should be in the settings menu, or is that gone into hiding as well?05:54
Rob-Westits gone05:54
brandon_system settings05:55
knappHow do I convert vob's ripped from a DVD (using dvd::rip) to a avi?05:55
_kuja_rob-west: ctrl + m brings back the menubar05:55
intelikeymatthew because stable should have had 99.9% of the bugs worked out already   so beta is the next logical declintion      beta does not mean junk  it means still being developted05:55
murchadh_bhababrandon_, If systemsettings doesn't work, you've more problems than your keyboard!05:55
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Rob-Westthanks05:55
matthewintelikey, dapper has 99.9% bugs worked out?05:56
_kuja_knapp: k3b 1.0 (rc2) is an awesome dvd ripper, IMO, so easy to use.05:56
matthewintelikey, I had more problems with dapper than edgy...05:56
_kuja_and fast too05:56
brandon_hrm05:56
knappkuja didnt know k3b could rip dvds?05:56
intelikeymatthew no but i didn't want to start a flame war by saying dapper should still be called beta...05:56
_kuja_99.9%? Not a chance05:56
_kuja_knapp: you'd have to download and build the newer version to get dvd ripping support, but it's a GREAT app for it.05:57
superb0wl_Yea i installed a fresh edgy today and it wasn't nearly as smooth as dapper05:57
knappkuja, thanks ill check into that05:57
matthewintelikey, nice05:57
brandon_so am i left stuck?05:57
_kuja_http://www.k3b.org05:57
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intelikeymatthew notice superb0wl_ ^   case in point.05:57
Dr_willisinteresting05:57
_kuja_brandon_ probably, I recommend installing edgy05:57
Dr_willisrips them to what? :)05:57
brandon_i need the new kernel05:57
matthewI kind of feel that we move too quickly from release to release, w/o time to get the bugs worked out...05:57
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_kuja_dr_willis, xvid or mpeg405:58
_kuja_last I checked, maybe more now05:58
matthewintelikey, ok, I concede the point.05:58
intelikeymatthew debian mentality     (i share)05:58
matthewintelikey, what do you mean?05:58
Rob-Westhow do i check my kernal version05:58
metresbrandon_ you can install edgy and upgrade the kernel...05:58
brandon_gah, i cant install any keyboard support?05:58
brandon_metres, how?05:59
_kuja_matthew: It also forces things to progress faster, which is IMO an advantage05:59
metresRob-west : uname -rm05:59
matthew_kuja_, yes, that is true...I mean, look at Windows..._years_ between releases...not much innovation between them...05:59
Rob-West2.6.17-10-generic is this the newest05:59
_kuja_Nothing quite like a deadline for motivating people to get things done :\05:59
_kuja_2.6.19 is the kernel in feisty ....06:00
intelikey<matthew> I kind of feel that we move too quickly from release to release, w/o time to get the bugs worked out...<<< <intelikey> matthew debian mentality   <<<< that's the attatude of the debian team   "no hurry, lets get it right and they will be glad they waited."06:00
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_kuja_I'm not sure what the status of 2.6.20 is, and I don't really care much at the moment either :D06:00
matthewwhat's the difference between the .17 and .19 kernels?06:00
metresRob-west : you have to download the kernel source from kernel.org and compile it06:00
matthewintelikey, isn't that what we should be looking for? Making it work for people, flawlessly?06:01
superb0wl_brandon_ I'm not sure why kde wouldn't do it but you could probably edit your xorg.conf06:01
_kuja_might be able to slip the kernel in from the feisty repo?06:01
ForgeAusgrrr is there another way to set screen os other than through system settings?06:01
Rob-Westwont the system updates do that06:01
nicwhat is better to use wine or libwine on kubuntu?06:01
intelikeymatthew i said i share that philosophy06:01
_kuja_ForgeAus: how about kcontrol06:01
matthewintelikey, ah, ok.06:01
ForgeAusbrb I'll try it (assuming I can log in)06:01
nicim a noob and I am trying to get my linux rig to play counter strike source06:02
_kuja_I think I saw something about getting CSS working in wine on linuxgamers.net not long ago06:02
ForgeAushows recovery mode work?06:03
brandon_superb0wl_: what should i change the layout to?06:03
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lupine_85it's just single user mode06:03
_kuja_it gives you a single terminal session, logged in as root06:03
nicim just figuring out synaptic p manager...and I think I have downloaded win some where....06:03
lupine_85e.g. kernel boot parameters += "single"06:03
intelikeylupine_85 is it ?     nothing gui about it ?06:03
matthewForgeAus, it boots into runlevel 2 (aka, command line)06:03
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lupine_85matthew: now, it doesn't06:04
nicwhat is a dummy package?06:04
lupine_85no*06:04
lupine_85runlevel 2 is the default runlevel in ubuntu - and it's GUI06:04
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brandon_  option "XkbModel" "jp106"06:04
brandon_  option "XkbLayout" "jp,jp"06:04
brandon_  option "XkbVariant" "latin,"06:04
intelikeymatthew ubuntu default is runlevel 206:04
matthewlupine_85, hmmm, that's strange...06:04
lupine_85recovery mode == single user mode06:04
matthewI though runlevel 5 was....my bad06:04
_kuja_a dummy package is one that was used to smooth the upgrade process from one version of a distribution to another, like going from dapper to edgy06:04
geniiie init 006:04
lupine_85runlevels 2-5 are identical in ubunti, anyway06:04
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lupine_85ubuntu*06:04
lupine_85unless ubunti is the plural :p06:05
geniiheh kuja06:05
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brandon_kuja look up your keyboard layout for me06:05
brandon_for the three lines i pasted06:05
Rob-Westim a noob06:05
geniiubuntui ?06:05
intelikeydefault ubuntu runlevels are  0 halt  1 single user 2-5 normal (all alike) 6 reboot06:05
lupine_85matthew: runlevel 2 being command-line only is default for most distros :p06:05
ForgeAusyay I got my Kubuntu back06:05
matthewlupine_85, ah, ok...06:05
brandon_super06:05
brandon_superb0wl_: you there?06:05
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Rob-Westi know some basic stuff06:06
Rob-Westlike apt-get and such06:06
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murchadh_bhabalupine_85, We are all ubuntorum? ??)06:07
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intelikeyubuntus ubuntui ubunti ubunties  ???    as you can see i don't speak afrikanees06:07
_kuja_lupine, do others use runlevel 3 for gui, or something like that then? ..... I didn't really figure out what I was doing until I was running debian afterall06:07
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oemman i love linux06:08
=== murchadh_bhaba is a ubunny
oemtoo bad i need to switch my user name now lol06:08
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deushello06:08
oemi just deleted vista06:08
geniikubuntuist06:08
oemwhat a crappy OS06:08
matthewoem, good for you06:08
oemit takes up to much ram06:08
intelikeyoem user name or just your irc nickname ?06:08
superb0wl_brandon_ are you in japan or america06:08
_kuja_congragulations oem :D06:08
matthewkubunter?06:09
oemits my IRC name lol06:09
deushaha I dont think I'll ever need vista06:09
oemi just loaded konversation for the first time06:09
oemlol06:09
geniikubunterer?06:09
intelikeyoem /nick new_name06:09
geniikubunturer?06:09
deusactually, It would help if kubuntu would run correctly06:09
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matthewdeus, what's the problem?06:09
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brandon_america06:09
PhWickettsweet06:09
PhWickettthanx06:09
geniikubunturer = kubuntu adventurer06:09
superb0wl__brandon if you are in america you should change the XkbModel to "pc104" and the XKbLayout to "us"06:10
deusI tried to burn and run a liveCD, but it failed twice.  I checked the md5 sum and everything06:10
matthewgenii ftw06:10
superb0wl_and delete the line about latin06:10
PhWickettanyone know of a good linux book?06:10
brandon_and XkbVariant06:10
intelikeyPhWickett also you should consider registering what ever nick you settle on.06:10
PhWicketti already know the basics i just need something that has all the linux commands :)06:10
_kuja_man am I wired ... this ice cream is great stuff06:10
matthewdeus, did you burn the image as a file? You need to burn the image to the disk...as an image, not as a file.06:10
deusYeah, I got that06:11
brandon_brb06:11
intelikeyPhWickett install  rutebook    and read all about linux.06:11
intelikey!rutebook06:11
matthewdeus, it won't boot at all?06:11
PhWickettwhats that06:11
uboturutebook: Linux: Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition, an online book. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0-1 (edgy), package size 5468 kB, installed size 8264 kB06:11
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deuswell, the CD put the loading screen on my computer, and I chose the menu option to boot it, but it hung midway through06:11
PhWicketti loaded 5 gigs of DDR2 ram for vista06:11
_kuja_deus, did you check the md5 of the image after you burned it .... there's an option for that in k3b: "Verify written data [checkbox] "06:11
PhWickettlol06:11
matthewdeus, do you have an ATI video card?06:11
PhWickettneedless to say that was a mistake06:11
deusIt just stopped, and did nothing for 30 minutes06:11
deusyeah06:11
niccrap... I am having trouble downloading the wine package with synaptic06:11
deusyeah06:11
matthewPhilip5, did vista still run slowly?06:11
nicyanyone help me?06:12
_kuja_whatcha need, nic?06:12
PhWickettanyone who wants vista just let me know06:12
PhWicketti have a good code for it06:12
deuswhats wrong with ati video?  Is there somesort of compatibility issue?06:12
PhWicketti work at Dell06:12
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matthewdeus, you may need to use the alternate install cd...your card may not be supported...06:12
intelikeynic which release is that ?06:12
nickuja you are always helpful!06:12
deuscrap06:12
matthewPhWickett, you must be kidding.06:12
matthewlol06:12
PhWickettvista needs at least 2 gigs of ram06:12
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matthewala "wedding crashers"06:12
_kuja_what happened when you popped in 5gb/RAM phwickett?06:13
PhWickettlol i wish i was06:13
PhWickettit went ok then06:13
PhWickettand kubuntu halls as now lol06:13
nic0.9.2706:13
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deusHow do I know it will work once I get it up?  If its already incompatable with my video card...06:13
matthewdeus, it's ok...I'll walk you through it, but you'll need to download drivers for your card, or get another card...I think.06:13
intelikey!info wine06:13
ubotuwine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB06:13
matthewgenii, what do you think?06:13
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intelikeynic you are using fisty ?06:14
PhWicketti have a MSDN subscription so my code will only work on 10 installs/PC's, thats when i decided to screw windows and jump on the linux bandwagon lol06:14
brandon_sweet, it's fixed06:14
deusIt a laptop.  I cant service it06:14
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matthewPhWickett, good for you. Come here if you have any problems...06:14
geniimatthew I'll have to check scroll... my roommates are horsing around here :)06:14
matthewdeus, oh.06:14
PhWickettdoes anyone know the root password on a kubuntu install?06:14
nicfisty?06:14
_kuja_Windows Vista sounds like a giant waste of resources ....06:14
PhWicketti do a su command but i can never get the password right lol06:14
PhWickettyeah , it is06:14
nicno I dont think so.. I am using sunaptic package manager..06:14
deusIm not sure if Id like to risk it.  Can we go over it in detail first?06:14
_kuja_phwickett, by default the root account is locked, and has no password06:14
_kuja_!sudo06:15
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.06:15
nicsynaptic.06:15
intelikey!info wine fisty06:15
ubotuwine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB06:15
deuswould you mind talking privately with me?06:15
matthewdeus, hmmm, you don't/can't change the card.06:15
PhWickettme?06:15
PhWickettwho lol06:15
deusIf figured06:15
intelikeywhere did synaptic find wine-0.9.27  ?06:15
geniiBleh I'm not up to a long ATI video nightmare tonight LOL06:15
matthewdeus, sure06:15
nic!info fisty06:15
ubotuPackage fisty does not exist in any distro I know06:15
deushow do we do that?06:15
PhWickettbut everytime i enter no password it still wont let me in\06:15
matthewgenii, got enough of that w/ me?06:15
deusCan we just make up a chat room?06:15
PhWickettlike i leave it blank within Bash06:15
intelikey!fisty | nic06:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fisty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:16
geniimatthew  :) Almost06:16
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_kuja_phwickett, as I said, by default the root account is LOCKED06:16
PhWicketthow do i unlock it06:16
matthew!feisty06:16
ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+106:16
intelikey!feisty | nic06:16
ubotunic: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+106:16
matthewPhWickett, you don't need to06:16
_kuja_Rather than unlocking it, why not use sudo??.......06:16
_kuja_!sudo | phwickett06:16
ubotuphwickett: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.06:16
PhWickettso how do i access it?06:16
nicim using edgy atm06:16
PhWickettsorry im confused06:17
nicjust dowloaded it yesterday06:17
PhWicketti apologize06:17
_kuja_phwickett, click that link, read up :)06:17
matthewPhWickett, sudo is a way of saying "Super User DO"06:17
PhWickettah ok06:17
PhWickettso that gives me root/admin privlages?06:17
intelikeynic and you say the wine version is 0.9.27 ?    where did synaptic find wine-0.9.27  ?06:17
_kuja_Right06:17
PhWickettah ok06:17
PhWickettthanx for clearing that up06:17
PhWickettit was really starting to piss me off lol06:17
nicim on the wine website..06:17
deusmatthew, do you have google talk or aim?06:17
superb0wl_why do you ubuntu guys all hate the root user so much06:18
PhWickettwhat was the package with all the commands?06:18
_kuja_superb0w1, I never said I hate root.06:18
geniisuperb0wl Must be that horrible red background06:18
matthewdeus, I'd rather that you just chat with me privately...I opened up a room and sent you a message06:18
intelikeynic so how are you using synaptic to install from the winehq site ?     did you make that a special repo ?06:18
_kuja_phwickett, which commands?06:18
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matthewsuperb0wl_, because you can screw things up w/o knowing...06:18
nici tried... i dont know if it worked.06:19
deusoh, I dont think I got it?06:19
matthewdeus, then lets chat here...it might help someone else...06:19
superb0wl_yea i guess so i just get annoyed typing sudo all the time06:19
deusokay, thats find, it just there was alot going on06:19
nicit didnt take the repo06:19
nicI will try again06:19
intelikeynic did you try using the 0.9.22 version that was already in the ubuntu repos ?06:19
_kuja_intelikey: wine has a debian/ubuntu repo that's kept up-to-date with the latest releases of wine, with a new one coming out every month or so06:19
matthewdeus, just preface anything you want to say to me with matthew...you can just start typing my name and hit tab to complete it06:19
nicI guess I could do that...06:20
superb0wl_although i'm trying to train myself to just do sudo bash when i feel the urge to go on a root tear06:20
nici didnt know if a dummy package was a good thing to download or not06:20
deusmatthew, anyway, Are you sure there isnt anyway I can load up the liveCD, just to make sure it works?06:20
geniibrain twister: sudo su06:20
_kuja_sudo -s, or sudo -i would work also superb0wl06:20
matthewdeus, not sure I know what you mean.06:20
nicintelikey.... I am going to try to us the 0.9.22 version06:21
intelikey_kuja_ i know there are third party repos.   i'm trying to lead to the point that the ubuntu repos have it and work.   he said that repo was not working for him.06:21
PhWickettwhere can i get rutebook?06:21
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deuswell, Im worried that it wont load somethings up correctly or something will go seriously wrong.  Its nice to know that it works as a liveCD06:21
matthew!rutebook06:21
uboturutebook: Linux: Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition, an online book. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0-1 (edgy), package size 5468 kB, installed size 8264 kB06:21
_kuja_intelikey: gotcha06:21
matthewPhWickett, hmm, let me look...06:21
intelikeynic you will need to comment out the winehq repo and apply changes befor you do.06:21
PhWickettit seems i cant get it with the package updater etc.06:21
PhWickettthis OS even updates faster than windows lol06:21
nicshould I be using the  dev version or the regular one06:22
deusmatthew, for example, How do I know that I'll be able to load the graphics card?06:22
geniiarchive.ubuntu.com has been timing out on me. I was mirroring it and it took 2 days06:22
matthewPhWickett, http://packages.debian.org/unstable/doc/rutebook06:22
PhWickettthanx mathew06:22
intelikeynic regular06:22
nicty intel06:22
intelikeynp06:22
matthewdeus, what is your video card? I'll look for drivers...06:22
deusmatthew, obviously, Im a little new at this06:22
deusati mobility radeon06:22
matthewdeus, np, we all start somewhere.06:22
_kuja_!ati06:22
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:22
matthewdeus, lemme look06:22
matthew_kuja_, yeah, that06:23
geniimatthew I'll be around but I've been up almost 40 hours so a bit woozy/disoriented and still drinking coffee06:23
niccrap...06:23
matthewgenii, ok...so...any idea on the p4?06:23
PhWickettget some sleep lol06:23
deusmatthew, Most linux users are good people, but sometimes it seems like there's such an ivory tower.  Thanks for all your help06:23
_kuja_40 hours .... jeeze06:23
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jerphow do you unload the w32codecs into the i386 chroot ?06:23
_kuja_I've only been up for 12 or so, and I'm already feeling sleepy06:23
matthewdeus, no prob...I had that experience w/ genii...he's great...06:23
PhWickettguys thanx for all the help i really appreciate it06:24
PhWickettnight06:24
PhWickettill b back tomorrow if anyone uses this channel often anyways06:24
_kuja_jerp, copy them intot he chroot/usr/lib/win32 folder ....... or was it chroot/usr/lib/codecs .... I can't remember06:24
geniignite Wickett06:24
PhWickettand remember friends dont let friends use vista06:24
jerpok06:24
PhWickettlol06:24
geniidues Do you know the more exact model of your card? eg: x300 x800 etc06:24
deusummm...06:24
deusI dont remember06:25
matthewdeus, do you have a number that goes along with the card (ie. 9700)?06:25
matthewlol06:25
deusmatthew, It displayed on my bois menu.  I can reboot and tell you06:25
lupine_85lspci is your friend06:25
matthewdeus, ok, I'll be here!06:25
matthewlupine_85, very true06:25
matthewdeus06:25
deusyeah?06:25
matthewdeus, lspci06:25
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geniilupine_85 yuppers06:25
deusoh duh06:25
MgA_MarkHello compilerwriter and everyone06:26
_kuja_phwickett, don't worry, I won't >:)06:26
deusmatthew, sorry, it just says ati technologies unknown device06:26
superb0wlwhat do you guys all use for music players I kindof like amarok but it's just killing my system06:26
deusmatthew, should I go ahead and reboot?06:27
geniiXine06:27
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matthewdeus, ok..,yeah, go ahead and reboot06:27
deus0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 714                                                                                            506:27
deusbe back in a few minutes06:27
MgA_MarkCan anyone answer an install question?06:27
matthew!anyone | MgA_Mark06:27
ubotuMgA_Mark: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?06:27
MgA_Markok06:28
ForgeAushmmm kcontrol didn't work... well it worked but still crashed the video settings06:28
_kuja_ForgeAus: weird06:28
geniimy bet is x1400 ati06:29
ForgeAusit runs the same applet06:29
matthewgenii, why?06:29
ForgeAusI can change things like the background and taskbar (erm panelbar or whatever its calleD)06:29
_kuja_I can answer any question, it's just a matter of whether my answer will be informative and helpful, or not.06:29
ForgeAusI can change themes and stuff06:29
geniimatthew http://www.phoronix.com/lch/?k=entry&l=119&t=ATI06:29
ForgeAusjust not the display res06:29
MgA_MarkLast night, I was using adept to install Firefox. That worked fine. I also installed something called "gnuchess" .  It said it was installed, but I couldn't find it. I don't have a games files. I have an internet file, and that's where i found Firefox. How does this adept work?06:29
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nicI dont have the repository working yet int!06:30
nicI click on new.06:30
matthewMgA_Mark, I would stop using adept, first of all. use synaptic. to run gnuchess...hmm, go to a konsole, and type in gnuchess06:30
nicselect binary (deb)06:30
MgA_MarkSorry, I'm not in front of my Linux computer now. So synaptic is a lot better?06:31
nicthe type in deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main     in the url06:31
intelikeyMgA_Mark gnuchess will need something like xboard to run on.    then issue a command something like; xboard -searchTime 0:3  -showThinking True -initialMode MachineBlack -searchDepth 1 -searchTime 0:5    <<< from konsole to start it.06:31
matthewMgA_Mark, I think so...I erased my entire kubuntu install w/ adept...06:31
matthewlol06:31
nicreload... then  it doesnt show up in the loaded repositories06:32
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_kuja_there's a kde interface for chess playing available, knights, I'm not sure how good it is/n't06:33
intelikeyone can make that command string into a script and place it on the desktop in the menu or even on the taskbar  for a luancher if thay like. @ MgA_Mark06:33
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MgA_MarkWell, at least the Firefox worked. I also tried finding a gmail notifier, and couldn't. And I couldn't watch a movie in Quicktime. I guess there are lots of issues when you're first starting out.06:33
geniiI miss Sargon III06:33
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deusmatthew, you there?06:33
_kuja_!info knights | mga_mark06:34
matthewdeus, yessir06:34
ubotuknights: A chess interface for the K Desktop Environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6-7.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 784 kB, installed size 1764 kB06:34
matthewdeus, got some info?06:34
geniix1400 ?06:34
genii:)06:34
deusokay, its an ati mobility radeon x140006:34
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deusyeah06:34
matthewgenii,  genii ftw06:34
intelikeyMgA_Mark for more of a challange increese the  -searchTime  setting.   man gnuchess  for all the details.06:34
matthewlol06:34
ForgeAuswhats kickstart?06:34
intelikeyor man xboard   even06:34
_kuja_kickstart is an alternative to kmenu06:34
ForgeAusI got a radeon! top end one... All in one wonder!06:34
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MgA_MarkWell, I guess there is a way to get all those plugins to work, right?06:34
robotgeekForgeAus: its the new user menu in suse06:34
matthewdeus, ok, I'll be up for a few hours...want to get to it?06:35
geniidues OK so the fglrx drivers are what you want06:35
ForgeAushows it different?06:35
deussure, Ill try06:35
deusokay06:35
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deusquite a name, fglrx06:35
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geniidarn dEus not dues06:35
matthewdeus, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:35
deusyeah06:35
BrianSteffens!java06:36
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository06:36
intelikeyMgA_Mark now.  that was about the first question. seeing that you have asked several more in the mean time... would you like me to address any of them ?06:36
matthewBrianSteffens, did you get my email?06:36
MgA_MarkYes please06:36
MgA_MarkThanks06:36
intelikeywhich    and don't say all06:36
deusso what would you have me do, and how risky is it06:37
MgA_MarkWell, plugin for realplayer, windows media player, quicktime. Are they easy to get?06:37
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robotgeek!codecs > MgA_Mark06:37
matthewdeus, If it doesn't work, you can always reinstall windows...there is no risk of hardware damage06:37
geniideus Do you know which driver you are currently using?06:38
BrianSteffensmatthew: i got The requested URL /getfile/12105285196341411665930538368516818967421166588979117/lwp-13.3.skz was not found on this server. error06:38
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MgA_MarkDo you just download something called "codecs"?06:38
intelikeyMgA_Mark the plugins that are easy to get will be through the repos and package manager    check your priviet messages for info.06:38
matthewBrianSteffens, hmmm06:38
matthewBrianSteffens, out of ideas...sorry06:38
deusmatthew, I know that, I have the green disk that came with the laptop.  Thats the dell reinstall disk, right?06:38
intelikeyprivate maybe.06:38
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deusgenii, donno06:38
matthewgenii, he is booting a livecd that freezes06:38
BrianSteffensmatthew well thanks for trying =)06:38
matthewBrianSteffens, np06:38
nic_kuja_ can you help me resolve the repostitory issue I am having.. I cant add a repository for wine06:38
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deusyeah, well, actually, Im running simplyMEPIS06:39
matthewBrianSteffens, might want to try that link again tomorrow...might work then...06:39
_kuja_Hmm, let me see somethigna bout it nic06:39
BrianSteffensmatthew okeedokee06:39
deusmatthew, I have a dual boot06:39
matthewdeus, oh, ok...06:39
intelikey!repos > MgA_Mark06:39
geniideus freezing liveCD can be a few diff erent probs not all having to do with video06:39
deushmmm...06:39
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MgA_MarkWhat is repos?06:39
superb0wlso i just installed xmms and when i the little "D" icon to make the interface bigger it wigs out the display and give and error like this: Gdk-ERROR **: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)06:39
deusgenii, can you advise?06:39
matthewgenii, he said that he md5summed the iso and burned the disc twice...06:39
geniieg: flawed CD ...bad CD drive etc06:40
matthewgenii, please06:40
nicty _kuja_06:40
matthewgenii, ah...06:40
geniideus If you are using a Mitsumi drive, I'd recommend tossing it06:40
intelikeyMgA_Mark again look at the other tabs of your irc client   private messages from ubotu06:40
Dr_willissuperb0wl,  xmms has some issues with some of the newer X things..  i forget the details however. You may want to check into the beep-media-player, or some otehr players.06:40
deusmatthew, Its whatever came with the computer06:40
jerpkuja the documentation says /usr/local/lib/codecs/ is default for the mplayer w32codecs, but do you know if a conflict could arise with xine in that it will search for w32codecs or is focused on a default folder.06:41
ForgeAusyay adept found a resolution switcher app!06:41
robotgeekimbrandon: please check server window06:41
Dr_willissuperb0wl,  i think theres some fix,  but i forget the details.06:41
ForgeAusfinally!06:41
deusmatthew, It burned knoppix and mepis correctly06:41
ForgeAusafter that + KDevelop + KOffice and I'll b happy!06:41
intelikeyMgA_Mark is that working for you now ?     or do you still not see the answers you want ?06:41
MgA_MarkI'm there, but I don't see anything yet.06:41
matthewgenii, what do you think? I'm thinking gfx card still...06:41
_kuja_You followed the instructions for adding it that were on winehq.org, and what did it do nic? If all else fails, you can download the deb from http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/pool/main/w/wine/06:41
intelikeyok.06:41
geniideus OK so we need to assume it was made OK then :) but that would be the first check before else06:41
intelikey!repos | MgA_Mark06:41
ubotuMgA_Mark: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu06:41
deusmatthew, of course, that was using windows06:41
deusmatthew, okay06:42
intelikey!mp3 | MgA_Mark06:42
ubotuMgA_Mark: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:42
intelikeyMgA_Mark   ^^^06:42
ForgeAusadept has slowed down alot tho06:42
matthewdeus, when you boot it, have you tried the "Check disk for errors" option?06:42
MgA_MarkNow I see06:42
ForgeAusI might need to get rid of packages I don't want/need06:42
geniideus What is the exact problem/symptom please?06:42
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robotgeekhow do i check if my hard drive is dying?06:42
intelikeyrobotgeek badblocks06:42
_kuja_oftentimes you can just listen?06:43
deusmatthew, yeah, when I do that it runs for a while then hangs06:43
MgA_MarkLots of info, that's for sure.06:43
ForgeAusis there a better archive utility than ark?06:43
jerprobot, go ahead and take a shotgun to it and put it out of it's misery06:43
deusgenii, I get the splash screen, tell it to boot, run it for a while, and then it hangs.06:43
intelikey_kuja_ if it's the controller ?06:43
matthewgenii, hmmm, maybe not the video card after all...06:43
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robotgeekintelikey: /sbin/badblocks: Input/output error06:44
matthewdeus, why are you trying kubuntu? just something different?06:44
deusSo it boots the cd, but it wont boot the operating system.06:44
geniideus This drive is built-in to your notebook?06:44
superb0wlBTW 'export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 && xmms' fixes that xmms bug06:44
_kuja_I'm sleepy, I think I'm going to go to bed06:44
intelikeyMgA_Mark it's very easy to get overloaded with information in here.  that's why i was only addressing one question at a time.06:45
geniignite kuja :)06:45
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_kuja_You be sure to get some sleep too genii staying up for days on end isn't healthy06:45
_kuja_and good night :)06:45
deusmatthew, yeah, I tried to install kdevelop on mepis, and after three weeks of failure, someone finally told me that I had an out of date xwindows (even though the os was from thanksgiving) and that it wasnt worth the trouble to upgrade06:45
MgA_MarkI agree. I feel with the help available here, it will turn out ok. It's really a great community, as far as I can tell.06:45
intelikeyrobotgeek you should probably read up on man badblocks before you use it.  so i'm not inclined to give full syntax examples.06:45
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geniiThere is an alternate method but it involves having to make floppies and do a net install etc bypassing CD altogether06:46
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intelikeyMgA_Mark thanks ;/06:46
matthewdeus, ah...ok.06:46
deusin other words, if I wanted to install programs like kdevelop, I would need to get a new operating system.06:46
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robotgeekintelikey: i seem to have a bigger issue. i get the same thing for any other command06:46
matthewdeus, lol, genii knows all about net installs! :)06:46
_kuja_|sleepdeus, what makes you say that, I have kdevelop installed06:46
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brandon_i need help editing fstab to mount a drive06:46
intelikeyrobotgeek sounds a lor like kernel side issue    as in wrong module for the device06:47
reaper1I need help trying to figure out why my touchscreen won't work06:47
MgA_MarkThank you. I've got to call it a night now. I'll be back. Thanks so much for everything so far.06:47
intelikeylor lot06:47
matthewbrandon_, sudo kate /etc/fstab06:47
deus_kuja_|sleep, are you running mepis?06:47
_kuja_|sleepNo06:47
intelikeyMgA_Mark one word before you go.06:47
_kuja_|sleepkubuntu, well, sort of06:47
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MgA_Markok06:47
deusmepis doesnt come with or support any kind of software development06:47
brandon_matthew, now what do i edit it to?06:48
deuskinda useless for me06:48
brandon_what line do i add?06:48
_kuja_|sleeptext install + kde-core + kubuntu-default-settings + any and all packages I felt like adding ...06:48
deusmatthew, do you know whats wrong with my computer and my liveCD?06:48
reaper1If I've got a block of text in my xorg.conf for my touchscreen, I know it's set to the right port, why shouldn't my touchscreen work?06:48
matthewbrandon_, what are you trying to do?06:48
deusgenii, this is an internal hard drive06:48
brandon_mount my ext3 backup drive06:48
matthewdeus, I'm kinda thinking it's the vid card.06:49
brandon_and set automount on bootup06:49
intelikeyMgA_Mark most people that come here for their first linux experance have the mis conception that because they know a lot about M$ windows they should know a lot about linux.   they fail to recall that they spent many years gathering what they know about windows....06:49
_kuja_|sleepdeus, you *might* be able to use ubuntu's repositories from mepis06:49
deusgenii, It burned at least three iso's correctly on windows06:49
intelikeyMgA_Mark be patient.  :)06:49
robotgeekintelikey: hmm, let me check from a livecd06:49
geniideus I think your drive is probably having issues06:49
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deusoh, no _kuja_|sleep, I dont think thats the problem06:49
MgA_MarkThat's true. I will be patient. Thanks again.06:49
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MgA_MarkGood night.06:50
intelikeygood night and good luck to your pinguin.06:50
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matthewbrandon_, hmm, can't help you there...sorry06:50
brandon_matthew?06:50
brandon_can anyone help me mount a drive?06:50
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reaper1How do I get a "mutouch" driver?06:50
deusgenii, you sure?  What can I do?06:50
intelikeybrandon_ sure    sudo mount /dev/<devicenode> /media/>mountpoint>06:51
intelikeynow brandon_ if you06:51
brandon_how do i figure out devicenode?06:51
geniideus Well, that it hangs when checking the cd yet the md5sum is ok and it gave no errors burning is a clue06:51
deusgenii, I can burn it on another computer that i have in my house.  I can reboot into windows06:51
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brandon_its not displaying with df in term06:51
intelikeynow brandon_ if you'll be moe specific i will too06:51
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intelikeybrandon_ df works on mounted drives.06:51
brandon_i don't know where the drive is located06:51
brandon_how can i probe for it?06:52
intelikeyfdsik -l   or cat /proc/partitions06:52
intelikeythe latter is probably better.06:52
geniideus If it's the reading part of the cd that is failing due to a bad CD drive, you need to test the cd on another system to see if it's good06:52
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geniideus If it works OK somewhere else it's the drive. If so, you need another one or an alternate install method bypassing hte CD06:52
intelikeybrandon_ that was assuming it's an hd06:53
deushmmm...06:53
brandon_it is, and it's not showing up06:53
brandon_reboot?06:53
intelikeyif not i have other sujestions.06:53
intelikeyreboot ?06:53
robotgeeknope, we dont reboot on linux06:53
intelikeyfor what ?06:53
brandon_idk but it's not showing the hd06:53
intelikeywe reboot because of major upgrades to the kernel.06:53
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brandon_it was always sdb106:53
intelikeybrandon_ is that usb  scsi  or sata ?06:54
brandon_sata06:54
brandon_but it's not showing up with df06:54
brandon_or cat /proc/partitions06:55
intelikeyanaig df only shows "MOUNTED" filesystems06:55
brandon_oh06:55
intelikeyagain ^06:55
brandon_how do i view unmounted systems06:55
geniideus Do you have another box somewhere in the house to test with?06:55
intelikeywell try  sudo fdisk -l06:55
deusyeah, Im loading it up now06:56
brandon_.    /dev/sdb106:56
deusIf my mom finds out, btw06:56
geniideus OK, cool. Try to do the CD check on that one06:56
brandon_what line do i need to add to fstab?06:56
intelikeybrandon_ what fs is it ?06:57
deusgenii, btw, this computer also has an ati, but its older06:57
brandon_ext3, but it says hpfs/ntfs06:57
deusokay, it looks like it loaded06:57
deusgenii, wow, pretty06:57
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geniideus If the CD drive is failing, you can get an external enclosre USB and put a CD drive in it to install from. Probably cheaper than getting a new laptop drive06:57
ForgeAushmmm HPFS sounds like a great idea I need to format one of those!... :)06:57
ForgeAuswould 8 gig do for OSX?06:58
intelikeybrandon_ k fstab line    /dev/sdb1 /media/sda1 ext3 defaults 0 006:58
LathiatForgeAus: wouldnt leave you much room :P06:58
ForgeAusor wait OS/2 WARP?06:58
deusgenii, doesnt come with firefox?06:58
ForgeAusLathiat? really its THAT big?06:58
brandon_add it to the last line?06:58
intelikeybrandon_ that assumes you want it mounted at /media/sda106:58
brandon_or a new line?06:58
nic_kuja_ i have the deb package with wine in it...  what now?06:58
intelikeyerr you can adjust that to any empty dir.06:58
geniideus No, the default is Konqeror06:58
brandon_yeah06:58
robotgeekintelikey: crap, i think my hdd just died on me06:58
brandon_put it as the last line?06:59
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ForgeAuskonqueror is kewl :)06:59
intelikeybrandon_ yes   but make sure the mountpoint is what you want.06:59
intelikeyrobotgeek it does happen.06:59
_kuja_|sleepsomething beeped .... oh, nic wanted me ... dpkg -i packagename.deb06:59
deuskonqueror is very nice, but firefox has a special place in my heart06:59
LathiatForgeAus: i think an install is around 4G or something06:59
nicin konsole?06:59
brandon_intelikey: can i just put it in media?07:00
geniiI prefer FF too :)07:00
LathiatForgeAus: install a few apps and.. it could get a bti tigh t;p07:00
_kuja_|sleepyes07:00
nicgo to sleep..07:00
brandon_i can?07:00
LathiatForgeAus: if you can wait.. 3 hours i have an install at home i can tell you how much is in use07:00
nicty07:00
deuskonqueror beats the f***ing crap out of the windows file system.07:00
_kuja_|sleepyw07:00
_kuja_|sleepgood night nic07:00
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ForgeAusLath its ok07:00
deusokay, so we know for a fact the CD is good07:00
ForgeAusI'd need pearPC to run it07:00
intelikeybrandon_ if you do it will need the other mountpoints in /media created in it.07:00
intelikeybrandon_ but short answer is  yes.07:00
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brandon_how do I add that other mount point07:01
deusgenii, what do you think.  I have and external hard drive.  I have an ipod.  Is there anyway I can boot this computer without shelling out for and external cd drive?07:01
geniideus - so i would deduce the laptop CD drive is failing then. As I said, you then need to either use an external drive then or go for a netboot-type install (or possibly usb key etc)07:01
intelikeywith the mkdir command07:01
deususb key...07:01
deusI f***ed up a usb key by trying to install linux on it07:01
ForgeAusgrrr 1 gig iso :(07:02
brandon_okay, it is saved, is the drive ready to be used?07:02
deus2GB versoin of linux > 2GB usb drive07:02
intelikeybrandon_ make a list of the mountpoints   make sure there is nothing mounted there    then mount the partition  and  use sudo mkdir <that list of mountpoints one by one.>07:02
ForgeAusfor vmware inst07:02
ForgeAuswow vmware? will that work?07:02
ForgeAusthats weird07:02
geniideus Is your other box a *nix type?07:02
deusno07:02
ForgeAusI can Kubuntu but OSX from VMware?07:02
deusits the family computer07:02
brandon_intelikey: i put it in media/smith07:02
brandon_but i do not see the drive07:02
intelikeybrandon_ ok it's ready.07:03
ForgeAusdoes that mean I don't need PearPC afterall?07:03
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deusgenii, no07:03
Lathiatyou dont want pearpc07:03
intelikeybrandon_ sudo mount -a07:03
Lathiatthats _lsooow_07:03
Lathiatuse the intel image in vmware07:03
ForgeAusis VMware faster?07:03
brandon_[mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab07:03
Lathiatthan pearpc, by about 100 fold07:03
ForgeAusit runs Kubuntu nicely :)07:03
ForgeAusI wonder how big the HDD image is tho :(07:03
deusgenii, man, now that Ive taken a look at kubuntu, I really want it07:03
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ForgeAusnot that I don't have the space07:04
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ForgeAusdeus, its really good :)07:04
lupine_85!w32codecs07:04
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:04
ForgeAusmy fav linux sofar07:04
geniideus yeah it's the s**t :)07:04
ForgeAusblows knoppix out of the water anyway07:04
intelikeybrandon_ means you didn't hit the return at the end of your edit.   it wont break anything but it will burp out that warning at boot time unless you fix it.07:04
deusForgeAus, knoppix didnt load anything up on my computer correctly07:04
geniideus Is there enough room on the house box to dual-boot?07:04
deuspart of the reason I got mepis07:04
n8k99hello07:05
brandon_fixed07:05
LathiatForgeAus: i have one of th evmwrae images here07:05
brandon_intelikey: do i have full read and write access to this drive and all its files and folders?07:05
LathiatForgeAus: its a 6.5GB file07:05
deusgenii, that wouldnt do me any good.  Im a college student who is on vacation.  Besides, I dont have the permission07:05
geniideus :(07:05
intelikeybrandon_ the reason it's desirable to have a final newline is because somethings can append new info to the so without a blank line at the end they append to the end of the last line...07:06
intelikeybrandon_ if you have the permissions set that way.07:06
intelikeybrandon_ it's ext3  permissions are on a per inode basis..07:06
geniiI'm sure there's way to liveboot then get tftpd running with cd shared but I'm too tired to consider it atm07:06
geniideus Does your notebook do PXE booting?07:07
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deusthats okay.  could you tell me what that would be07:07
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geniiPXE boot is when it tries to boot from the network07:07
intelikeybrandon_ man chown  for information on ownership   and man chmod  for info on permissions   and good luck to your pinguin.07:07
deusI think I saw something in the boot menu about that.  It says it can boot off of the NIC.07:07
deushow is that done?07:08
geniideus OK, so the basic idea then would be: on the "server" install hpa-tftpd. Edit the conf file to use /var/lib/tftpboot as the root07:08
brandon_intelikey: can i relabel the label that was present with sudo fdisk -l07:08
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deusumm...07:09
brandon_HPFS/NTFS07:09
geniideus Then put a dir there called pxeboot.cfg, inside that a file called default07:09
brandon_rename it to ext307:09
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geniideus I'll try to find you a reference...hangon a bit07:09
intelikeyyes you can  but not -l     i'd sujest sudo cfdisk /dev/sdb07:09
deusgenii, okay07:09
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troy-fhi07:10
brandon_what do i do?   sudo cfdisk /dev/sdb107:10
brandon_or just sdb07:10
troy-fi just installed edgy and i can't get my via 8235 souund card to work07:10
intelikeyi'm going to reboot into that M$ windows 95 and play a game.    i haven't played a game in a long time.07:11
geniideus I got started on this one: http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install07:11
troyack! another troy! :P07:11
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geniibut keep in mind liveboot mounts will be diff07:11
troy-fhi :-P so your the one who registerd it first :-P07:11
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troylike... 1998 :P07:12
troy-fwow07:12
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troy-fi have been on freenode a year07:12
touchmeI'm about 4 hours from having to reformat to Winblows XP... can someone please help me prevent this by telling me how to make Kubuntu recognize my touchscreen monitor? It shows it being plugged into /dev/input/ts0, but the touchscreen part is still inactive. PLEASE help!07:12
troy-fanyways.. alsa shows it detects a via 8235 sound chip but ksound deamon crashes on startup with message "cpu overloaded"07:13
deusgenii, this is a bit advanced for me...07:13
troytroy-f: can you play sound using non-kde apps at all?07:13
brandon_how do i install mp3 support07:13
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noiesmo!mp3 | brandon_07:14
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geniideus Do you have an external USB CD ?07:14
Lathiattouchme: might be worth trying #ubuntu as thats a fairly generic issue07:14
deusmight be able to find one07:15
troy-fok well..07:15
troy-fi just put an audio cd in07:15
geniideus That would be the quickest fix :)07:15
troytouchme: that's going to be an Xorg configuration issue... but, having never dealt with touchscreens in linux before...07:15
troy-fand kaffine sais it doesn't see it07:15
deushmm...07:15
troyoh, hrmm - probably not kaffeine's fault...07:15
touchmeThat's what I was thinking too troy, but I have the correct insertions into Xorg07:16
brandon_no libxine-extracodecs for feisty?07:16
troy-f/media/cdrom is blank07:16
noiesmotroy-f, I have via 8235 c\sound works fine the only thing I found was if i had usb webcam pluged in no sound07:16
matthewgenii, sorry to interrupt, but I sent an email asking about selling it w/o RAM...that only applies if it is using PC133 RAM...if the mobo supports DDR or DDR2, please sell me that w/ the box.07:16
troytroy-f: audio cd's are not mounted like data cd's...07:16
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troytroy-f: try using 'kscd' to play it07:16
geniimatthew OK np :)07:16
brandon_anyone?07:16
osirisanyone know how i would leave a program running on a system after i close my ssh session ?07:16
matthewk, going to bed now...see you in the morning...07:17
brandon_no libxine-extracodecs for feisty?07:17
robotgeekosiris: screen or nohup07:17
noiesmobrandon_, maybe ask in #ubuntu+107:17
geniibrandon do you have "restricted" repos in sources.list ?07:17
troytouchme: if no one knows here - try #ubuntu or even #xorg... also, the ubuntu message forum usually works, but it's less instant...07:17
geniibrandon Also #ubuntu+1 IS the best help for feisty07:18
brandon_i'm not sure07:18
superb0wldoes anybody know why the "master" volumne in kmix doesnt do anything07:18
brandon_main restricted, yes07:18
troy-fwierd.. kscd loads but doesn't show a window07:18
geniitouchme Also general debian methods may help07:18
murchadh_bhabaosiris, screen, start program, detach screen (ctrl^a d)07:18
troytroy-f: is it in the tray in the corner by the clock?07:18
robotgeek!screen07:18
ubotuscreen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen07:18
troy-fno07:19
troy-fi typed it in a terminal and it sais its already running07:19
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brandon_how can i install this libxine-extracodecs07:19
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troytroy-f: weird - works for me... hrmmm...07:20
matthewok, I decided to come back...yay!07:20
geniibrandon if you sudo apt-cache search libxine|grep codec  is there any result?07:20
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brandon_genii: no07:21
geniideus I am sorry that I cannot be of more help07:21
geniibrandon So you need to find which repository it should be in, then add that to your /etc/apt/sources.list, do an ap-get update then see that it appears when you apt-cache search   for it. Then it can be installed07:22
touchme#debian says it's a kernel thing and they don't know, no one's home at #xorg, and not even the mighty google knows07:22
troytroy-f: sorry man - I'd see if you can try a different cd player, but I don't know what else would work... xmms perhaps? (probably not installed by default) and see if that works.  Or try playing audio via xmms ... like an ogg file or something...07:22
brandon_can i use gstreamer instead07:22
troytroy-f: that way you can narrow it down a bit: just cd audio problem OR all audio problem OR just kde audio problem... etc.07:23
troy-fi dont have internet on the machine yet :-/  my 2200bg wireless won't see any ap's07:23
geniibrandon What is your desired end-result? To play a particular file format etc?07:23
brandon_mp307:23
troy-facually iwconfig shows it as turned off07:23
geniibrandon gstreamer or mplayer or xmms   all should be equally good07:24
troytroy-f: dunno about wireless - never tried to set that up on unix before... don't generally use it07:24
deusgenii, what if i choose a stable version of kubuntu, like dapper?07:24
brandon_which gstreamer package to work with amarok?07:24
troyamarok-engines-gstreamer iirc07:24
troythat could be slightly different... use adept_manager and search for amarok :)07:25
deusgenii, I ran the cd check, and it completed okay07:25
troytroy-f: good luck though -- gotta run (significant other's birthday)07:25
geniideus I think the crux of your issue is that no matter what CD you make, you will have issues installing because of the drive. You may want to chance the mini iso for whatever distro tho Less to read etc07:26
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dope_OK so i totally just made out and groped my roommate (she's a female)07:26
touchmeIs there like a channel or number that I can call that I could pay for support on touchscreens? I"m pretty desparate here.07:26
geniideus It may give you a base systemfrom which you could get outto internet for the rest07:26
brandon_troy, does that then support mp3?07:27
brandon_amarok-engines07:27
deusgenii, hmmm...07:27
deusbut I dont understand it.  My drive worked find before07:28
geniideus Some drives have problems reading crammeddiscs.07:28
deusOh I see07:28
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intelikeywell so much for a game.07:29
dope_i was all up on her07:29
deuswhat If I tried a dvd version?  My bois supports it.  Its worth a try I think07:29
geniideus Yeah that may work :)07:29
deusgenii, I mean, I have the blank DVDs and everything07:29
deusokay, Ill try that.07:29
deusgenii, I still kinda doubt thats my problem07:29
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intelikeyif only i would have realized that i couldn't boot windows....07:30
geniideus Well, all the indications are that: the CD is good and that: the laptop CD drive balks07:30
deusgenii, here goes07:30
deusyou sure07:30
deus?07:30
geniideus Well if you have a DVD to spare I'd chance it.07:31
nicim completely lost...07:31
nicdarned lunix07:31
dave_can anyone tell me how to download packeges when adept isnt woking07:31
matthewdave_, synaptic07:32
geniiaptitude07:32
deusgenii, k3b gave me a warning (not an error07:32
matthewsudo apt-get install synaptic07:32
noiesmodave_, you can open terminal and type sudo apt-get install package07:32
rcrookdope_ we dont want to know... infact I am not sure any of us really care except you are annoying us by telling us this useless information.07:32
deusit says that the file I downloaded is not a valid iso07:32
dave_kk thanks will try07:32
somerville32You guys are sending people over to #xubuntu now for support? :P07:32
geniideus ... You burned a CD imge to a DVD? There is a dvd-specific image07:33
dope_you don't wanna hear about my soap opera?07:33
deusgenii, no07:33
deusgenii, but I have the dvd image and k3b says:07:33
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rcrookdope_ no07:33
deusThe image you selected is not a valid ISO9660 image. Are you sure you want to burn it anyway? (There are other valid image types that are not detected by K3b but will work fine.)07:33
dave_: Package synaptic has no installation candidate07:33
dave_????\07:33
geniieus Ah, thats fine. It means it doesn't strictly adhere to 9660 standards but thats OK07:34
matthewdave_, might want to check that your access repos is available07:34
deusokay, here goes07:34
matthewcat /etc/apt/sources.list07:34
dave_how do i do that!07:34
matthewdave_, if you see any that are commented out (# in front), then tell me.07:35
matthewdave_, cat /etc/apt/sources.list07:35
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intelikeyand forgets about windows.07:35
matthewintelikey, very nice07:35
intelikeynow i'll dd a copy of the working system over   or maybe tar it over.07:36
deusits righting very slow07:36
deusin the 0.5x to 0.9x range07:36
dave_ahh i am confused so i am to typr the command dave_, cat /etc/apt/sources.list and hit enter then tel u wat ti says?07:36
deuswhat do those numbers mean, anyway07:37
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matthewdave_, no you need to open a konsole and type "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" w/o the quotes07:37
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dave_that what i did07:37
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matthewok, then type in cat /etc/apt/sources.list07:38
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geniideus If it takes you 2 hours to watch a dvd, .5 speed eans it will take 4 hours to burn07:38
deusoh, thats cool07:38
dave_ok lots of stuff how do i use the Bin thng to send it to you i am only new to all this sorry!07:38
matthewdo you see any lines that are web address that are prefaced by a # sigb?07:38
matthew!pastebin | dave_07:38
ubotudave_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)07:38
deusI can wait until tomarrow morning07:38
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matthewdave_, just go there, paste the output, and give me the url for the page.07:39
geniiOr at least thats my understanding... drive speed measurement is a convoluted equation07:39
dave_url?07:39
deusgenii, how do I get linux to retest my ethernet connection07:39
matthewdave_, address in the address bar07:39
dave_lol07:39
dave_address for what though?07:40
matthewdave_, the page where you pasted the output of cat /etc/apt/sources.list07:40
geniideus sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart07:40
geniideus then do sudo ifconfig07:40
geniiand see if the eth0 or whatever got the number or similar07:41
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dave_think that worked in the post bin?07:41
matthewdave_, what is the address?07:42
intelikeyurl please07:42
dave_mmmmmm i rea;;yconfused now07:42
matthewdave_, ok, here is what I need you to do.07:43
matthewdave_, follow me step by step.07:43
dave_ok07:43
geniimatthew :)07:43
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intelikeydave_ when you use paste.ubuntu-nl.org it gives you a url to give us.07:43
matthewdave_, type in "sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list" without the quotes07:43
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dave_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38049/07:43
dave_does that help?07:43
geniithere ya go07:43
intelikeythere ya go.07:43
geniiheh07:44
dave_lol sorry07:44
matthewdave_, listen to me now...07:44
dave_ok07:44
dave_ all ears07:44
geniideus alternate to ifconfig you could just try to ping some site like google etc07:44
matthewdave_, sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list07:44
matthewdave_, type that in the konsole07:45
matthewgenii,  check your private messages...07:45
dave_then..07:45
geniimatthew How do I do that?07:45
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dave_i have a sources list form kate now?07:46
intelikeythe paste was turncated.... dave did not scroll up before starting to copy and only got the last screen full.07:46
matthewgenii, I just sent you a private message...there should be an extra tab on the left with my name on it...if you're using xchat, at least07:46
matthewdave_, yes07:46
geniiNope, chatzilla07:46
jason_is it posible to install adobe photoshop on kubuntu?07:46
matthewdave_, I want you to go through it and find every line that ends in .com07:47
geniiRight now I just have irc.freenode.net, kubuntu and ubuntu channels07:47
matthewgenii, oh, ok, never mind07:47
dave_is there surposed to be any becasue i couldnt find any?07:48
dave_do you want me to post it in the bin thing?07:48
matthewdave_, look for lines that contain ubuntu07:48
deushey, genii I have a few questions07:48
matthewdave_, do you see those?07:48
geniideus Sure, shoot :)07:49
dave_ahhh07:49
dave_so do you want to see them07:49
deuswhen I ran kubuntu, it looked like a lot of stuff wasnt there.  Is there a irc chat client?07:49
dave_main restricted07:49
deusos I can ask you for help?07:49
matthewdave_, now, if any of those lines that contain "ubuntu" in them have a ound sign (#) at the beginning, then delete the pound sign (#)07:50
geniideus for irc there is xchat as matthew noted. I generally use chatzilla extension for firefox. There is also usually an IM client like gaim or kopete07:50
matthewdave_, whoops, I meant pound, not ound07:50
deusgenii, secondly, is 20 gigs enough disk space?  Thats how big my partition is...07:50
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dave_then?07:51
deusgood.  And thats all off the live cd?07:51
geniideus You only need about 2.5 gigs for a full install, so anything over 4 is pretty roomy07:51
matthewdave_, have you deleted all the pound signs (#) that are in front of lines that contain "ubuntu"?07:51
deusgood07:51
geniideus you should have kopete I think on the livecd07:51
dave_yep all 12   of them !07:51
deusgenii, good...07:51
matthewdave_, ok, now save the file07:52
osirisubotu, restricted formats > osiris07:52
osirisubotu, restricted format > osiris07:52
deusgenii, is kdevelop or some other ide preinstalled?07:52
dave_then?07:52
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matthewdave_, then close the file and go back to the konsole07:52
geniideus On the default, no07:52
deusmmm...07:53
deusgenii, but some easy install method?07:53
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deusgenii, I just spent three weeks trying to istall a program, only to learn that it was impossible in the first place07:54
geniideus I am looking now to see which repository needs to be in sources.list :) pls wait a minute07:54
dave_ok so now i try the install thing again?07:54
matthewdave_, now type "sudo apt-get install synaptic" without the quotes07:55
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geniideus Hmm ... if you try:   sudo apt-get update && apt-cache kdev        is there any result?07:55
dave_Package synaptic is not available, but is referred to by another package.07:55
dave_This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or07:55
dave_is only available from another source07:55
dave_E: Package synaptic has no installation candidate07:55
nicdoes wine run on 64 bits versions of kubuntu?07:55
dave_sorry crap i floded it07:55
geniiapt-cache SEARCH kdev07:56
lupine_85nic: in a chroot, yet07:56
geniibleh07:56
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matthewdave_, what version of kubuntu are you using?07:56
nicwow... thats already very over my head07:56
dave_ahh 6.06 lts07:56
geniideus Is inuniverse repository.07:57
matthewdave_, please put your /etc/apt/sources.list on pastebin and then tell me the url.07:57
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deusgenii, are we talking kubuntu? Im not running it yet07:57
dave_well i tryed that in konsole and it said permission denied?07:57
matthewdave_, type sudo in front of the command that you tried07:58
geniideus So... in /etc/apt/sources.list  make sure "universe" is at tail end or so of each line. Then do apt-get update etc etc07:58
geniideus Yes, in kubuntu07:58
deusgenii, when I get kubuntu running, Ill get someone (you?) to walk me through it.07:59
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dave_bad command07:59
deusgenii, so, there should be some sort of chat client running by default?07:59
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matthewdave_, type in "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"07:59
geniideus OK...if I'm not crashed for the next 14 hours I'll be glad to walk you thru it :)07:59
matthewdave_, without the quotes08:00
deuswow, this dvd burn is a whole lot of slowness08:00
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deusalright, Im gonna go to bed soon08:00
geniideus Yes, some client should be available. I do not normally run the livecd so I do not know which08:00
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deusof course08:00
geniimatthew Yeah I need sleep soon08:01
matthewdave_, have you done that?08:01
matthewdave_, once you do that, please paste the output to pastebin08:02
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intelikeyback.08:02
dave_getting there lol08:02
matthewdave_, okey doke08:02
geniiI'm just gonna finish this cig and then gobeddie-byes08:02
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dave_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38053/08:02
deushey guys, can you burn an image into an lcd screen, or is that only CRTs?08:02
matthewgenii, cigs kill. Tobacco contains polonium 21008:03
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lupine_85deus: just CRTs08:03
geniiatthew Living kills you :)08:03
lupine_85matthew: everything kills08:03
matthewdave_, ok, looking at it right now...hold on08:03
lupine_85everything else kills kittens08:03
dave_k08:03
dave_:)08:03
geniisunshine kills you ... sunscreen kills you...etc etc ad nauseum08:03
matthewgenii, nice08:03
intelikeymatthew he's still turncating it.08:04
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matthewintelikey, yeah, I see that08:04
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matthewdave_, please do the following: sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list08:04
brandon_how do i remove trash from desktop?08:04
matthewdave_, once you are there, please hit Ctrl + a08:05
matthewdave_, then go to pastebin and middle-click if you have a scroll wheel, right-click and paste if you have a 2-button mouse08:05
dave_yep and?08:05
dave_kk08:05
matthewdave_, then go to pastebin and middle-click if you have a scroll wheel, right-click and paste if you have a 2-button mouse08:05
matthewdave_, then give me the address.08:06
matthewdave_, the url08:06
intelikeymatthew both buttons == middle button08:06
matthewintelikey, k, thanks.08:06
intelikeynp08:07
dave_shit think i screwed it over08:07
nicintelikey08:07
nicme again08:07
matthewdave_, what happened?08:07
intelikeynic yessir08:07
brandon_intelikey: how do i remove trash from desktop08:07
nici cant get synaptic to dowload the wine package..08:07
dave_i had like to console windows open and not sure if i posted the right thing its there so try it anywayz08:07
intelikeybrandon_ idk.08:07
nicits sooooo frustrating08:07
swaminew repository08:07
brandon_intelikey: how do i restart panels08:07
geniictrl-A (selects all)  ctrl-c (copies)  ctrl-v (pastes)08:08
nicis it cause I am using kubuntu 64 bit?08:08
swamiit gives u any error?08:08
matthewdave_, ctrl-A (selects all)  ctrl-c (copies)  ctrl-v (pastes)08:08
intelikeynic you did comment out the odd repo you had added and enabled universe  didn't you ?08:08
intelikey!repos | nic08:08
ubotunic: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu08:08
nicnope08:08
brandon_sudo restart kicker08:09
brandon_soemthing like that08:09
intelikeybrandon_ killall kicker ;kicker08:09
swamihe can see tha package so he has the repository,...08:09
matthewdave_, go back to the /etc/apt/sources.list file and hit Ctrl+a, then Ctrl+c, then go to pastebin and hi Ctrl+v08:09
geniiOK time to go ...have fun everyone :) Back ~10 hrs08:09
brandon_and to restart it?08:09
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nici can see dummies from the basic install... but they wont install08:09
geniimatthew Have fun08:09
genii;008:09
swamisudo apt-get update08:09
matthewgenii, you too08:09
matthewlol08:09
brandon_restart panel?08:10
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intelikeynic try that.   don't forget to apply changes.  or as swami  said from the cli08:10
matthewdave_, go back to the /etc/apt/sources.list file and hit Ctrl+a, then Ctrl+c, then go to pastebin and hi Ctrl+v08:10
intelikeybrandon_ killall kicker ;kicker08:10
intelikeybrandon_ that's one string that both stops and starts it.08:10
brandon_it's not restarting08:10
nici dont know where to comment out the ODD repo and to enable universe08:11
matthewdave_, go back to the /etc/apt/sources.list file and hit Ctrl+a, then Ctrl+c, then go to pastebin and hi Ctrl+v08:11
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swamiany oen around here uses xgl+beryl?08:11
brandon_fixed08:11
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nicim using synaptic package manager08:11
dave_grrr dad came in and started talking to me an i fagged it all up is that the whole command etc/apt/sources.list\08:11
dave_is says invalid08:11
intelikey!universe08:11
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu08:11
intelikey!multiverse08:11
matthewdave_, the command is "kate /etc/apt/sources.list08:11
intelikey!repos08:11
matthewdave_, w/o the quotes08:11
intelikeyall the same link.08:11
swamianyone ...xgl+beryl........???08:12
nicshould I not use synaptic?08:12
matthewdave_, how old are you?08:12
goodthingare there any specific fstab that should apply to a raid1 mount?08:12
goodthing*options08:12
intelikeynic synaptic is fine.08:12
fdoving!beryl | swami08:12
ubotuswami: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl08:12
matthewdave_, how old are you?08:12
dave_ok all good sorry bout everything i am really just a noob lol08:12
dave_1708:12
dave_just never used irc or linux08:13
dave_!08:13
matthewdave_, ok....so you're looking at the sources.list file right now, right?08:13
dave_yep08:13
intelikeygoodthing man fstab ;man mount     and read up on raid one also.   i personally don't know.08:13
matthewok, hit Ctrl+a08:13
swami:)....i don;t need that kinda help....i need to find if the open gl direct rendering sists existing if i open a xgl session08:13
matthewdave_, ok, hit Ctrl+a08:13
dave_i have already posted it if thats what you want?08:14
matthewdave_, what you posted was incomplete.08:14
dave_hmmm08:14
matthewdave_, you need to select all of the text in the sources.list file, then copy it, then paste it to pastebin, please08:14
dave_lol try again08:15
dave_that form the top ctrl A08:15
matthewdave_, I don't understand.08:15
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goodthingintelikey: yeah, seems there is nothing in it about raid.08:16
dave_i have posted the new source code , and it is everything in the kate folder08:16
intelikeydave_   you can open a konsole and put this string in.   grep -v '#' /etc/apt/sources.list | grep -ie '[a-z] '08:17
matthewintelikey, thank you.08:17
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matthewintelikey, getting frustrated?08:17
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intelikeythat will weed out all the blank lines and the comments so you only see and paste the apropos text.08:17
dave_then?08:17
intelikeypaste it's output08:18
dave_i have a >08:18
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goodthingdave_: hit CRTL-key plus c08:18
matthewintelikey, want to take over?08:18
matthewor goodthing, you want to?08:18
goodthingi have no idea what the problem is08:19
intelikeymatthew this is your baby :)08:19
matthewintelikey, damn you! lol, jk08:19
matthewsorry for the language08:19
intelikeylol08:19
matthewdave_, ok, so, what is the url of the page where you pasted the output?08:19
intelikeymatthew but ya,  i'd rather take over than see you snap.08:19
dave_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38056/08:20
dave_is there like some whay to remote desktop because i am really noob at this lol?08:20
matthewdave_, ok, your sources.list looks good08:20
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intelikeydave that's not output from the command i gave you.08:21
matthewdave_, got back to a konsole and type in sudo apt-get install synaptic08:21
osirisubotu, restricted media > osiris08:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about restricted media - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:21
matthewintelikey, I'm just looking for commented out lines...08:21
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intelikeybut he may have trash repos in there too08:21
intelikeyor no main.08:22
intelikeyi've still not seen main.08:22
dave_nope didnt work08:22
matthewdave_, ok, do what intelikey said:  grep -v '#' /etc/apt/sources.list | grep -ie '[a-z] '08:22
intelikeydave_ can you clearify "didnt work" ?08:22
matthewintelikey, lol, would you blame me for snapping?08:23
dave_ok it did somthing then08:23
matthewdave_, what happened?08:23
dave_ahh you want to post bin it?08:23
intelikeymatthew yeah.  cause we all have these days.08:23
matthewdave_, yes, please08:23
matthewintelikey, it's not the day...lol08:23
sparrwhat can i feed to grep to search for the literal string "?/?" (sans quotes)?  in bash, if that matters08:23
intelikeymatthew you08:24
intelikeymatthew you'll think that when the next one does the same...08:24
matthewroflmao08:24
matthewno sleep in 14 hours...oh yeah08:24
intelikey14 ?08:24
dave_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38059/08:25
matthewyeah...woke up at 9 this morning...08:25
intelikeyyou accustom to sellping a lot ?08:25
intelikeydave_ very good.08:25
matthewintelikey, yeah, I like to get about 10-14 hours of sleep...lol.08:25
intelikeyand i was right you don't have main.08:25
matthewintelikey, you're right, no main on the last 2 security packages...maybe others...haven't looked08:26
matthewintelikey, ok, looked, and found no main...08:26
matthewdave_, now you need to follow my instructions exactly08:26
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dave_ok08:27
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matthewdave_, type in "sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list" without the quotes into the konsole08:27
intelikeydave on line one of that  you need    main restricted universe multiverse    not just universe multiverse    make all lines look that way.08:27
matthewdave_, do what intelikey tells you.08:27
matthewintelikey, I shudder to think why he has no main in his sources.list08:28
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dave_ok08:28
matthewdave_,  on line one of that  you need    main restricted universe multiverse    not just universe multiverse    make all lines look that way.08:28
intelikeydave after you edit and make all lines have main in them  save and run the grep command again so we can dubble check for you   ok ?08:29
dave_deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse08:29
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intelikeychange   deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse08:30
dave_so after this08:30
matthewdave_, make that read deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse08:30
intelikeyto deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse08:30
intelikeydave_ see how the line with the word   backports looks.    fix the rest of them.08:31
dave_do they all need full stops?08:32
matthewdave_, what do you mean, full stops?08:32
lupine_85no full stops08:33
matthewthey all need to read "main restricted universe multiverse" after the /ubuntu portion08:33
intelikeydave_ line breaks ?   yes each needs line breaks.  if that's what you mean.08:33
dave_yep kk08:33
intelikeybut not dos line breaks,  unix line breaks08:33
lupine_85intelikey: does apt-get care?08:34
matthewintelikey, I hate when people say kk...just kind of bugs me...I mean, ok, we get it with just one k, you know? Don't mind me, I'm tired...lol08:34
dave_so i leave the backports08:34
matthewdave_, yes08:34
lupine_85kkkk :)08:34
intelikeylupine_85 i think so.08:34
metresDo anyone can explain this : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38061/ im on amd64 ..?08:34
matthewlupine_85, I will kill you.08:35
matthewlupine_85, just kidding.08:35
lupine_85kk :[08:35
intelikeylupine_85 i've never tried actually.08:35
matthewroflmao08:35
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dave_kk08:35
lupine_85intelikey: no, me neither :)08:35
lupine_85that extra byte is such a waste...08:35
intelikeytest it and tell us08:35
lupine_85metres: you need to install some extra packages08:35
matthewdave_, ok, please paste your sources.list file now, please08:35
lupine_85!info libxml08:36
ubotuPackage libxml does not exist in any distro I know08:36
metreswhich ?08:36
abattoirmetres: Google Earth is looking for the 32-bit version of those files, while your system has the 64-bit version08:36
metresi have libxml2 aa my paste said...08:36
lupine_85!info libxml208:36
ubotulibxml2: GNOME XML library. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.26.dfsg-2ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 723 kB, installed size 1416 kB08:36
lupine_85ah, there's no amd64 version of google earth?08:36
intelikeydave_ finished ?08:36
intelikeylupine_85 no08:36
lupine_85!chroot08:37
ubotuhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box08:37
lupine_85do that :08:37
matthewdave_, you still with me?08:37
abattoiror install ia32-* linux32 etc.08:37
metresthank you guys :)08:37
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dave_nilly08:38
lupine_85intelikey: for the sake of clarity?08:38
lupine_85x86_64 works as well08:38
matthewdave_, excuse me? what does nilly mean?08:38
abattoirintelikey: i think k8 is amd specific, while amd64 in general refers to x86_6408:38
dave_lol i just need the code to get back into kate to paste you the source code please?08:38
intelikeyamd64 is not amd specific ???08:38
intelikeyhmmm may be right.08:39
abattoirintelikey: just like i686 is even used to refer to amd processors08:39
matthewdave_, sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list08:39
intelikeydave_   you can open a konsole and put this string in.   grep -v '#' /etc/apt/sources.list | grep -ie '[a-z] '08:39
intelikeythat code   ^08:39
matthewintelikey, I was so tempted to say fdisk *08:39
dave_hey i know what that is GRRR08:40
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dave_no fdisk for dave!08:40
intelikeymatthew hehhe or dd blah.08:40
matthewintelikey, lol, yeah08:40
dave_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38062/08:41
matthewdave_, looks good to me08:41
matthewintelikey, how about you? wdyt?08:41
intelikeydave_ do    sudo apt-get update08:42
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fekmoin08:42
dave_omg its working08:42
Search4Lanceris there any way I can get Xorg to use less memory?08:42
matthewdave_, very cool08:42
intelikeyhe's got some duplicate lines but only a few warnings from that.08:42
dave_fewk then it screwed up08:43
matthewdave_, what did it say?08:43
dave_its saying thes dupicate sources08:43
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intelikeydave_ do   sudo apt-get install synaptic08:43
intelikeyif it's finished08:44
matthewintelikey, don't we need to get rid of the duplicates?08:44
intelikeynot really.   they just throw warning messages out.08:44
dave_so far so good its dowloading08:44
matthewintelikey, ok08:44
dave_so how did i screw the source code up i tryed following some internet pages instructions08:44
matthewdave_, it's downloading? very cool08:44
intelikeymatthew if you want to help him remove them be my guest... :)08:44
matthewintelikey, I would love to!08:45
matthewdave_, ok, tell me when it gets done updating08:45
dave_ok its finishe08:45
matthewdave_, ok, now do        sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list08:45
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maryenhii08:45
intelikeydave_ you didn't "screw the source code up"  hehhe   in the sources list there are some lines just alike.  if you want to fix it remove the duplicates.08:46
dave_ok08:46
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dave_i have to go for dinner can we fix when i get back08:46
matthewdave_, are you looking at the sources.list?08:47
matthewdave_, it will take 2 seconds, plus I'm going to bed08:47
maryenhe messed up sources.list?08:47
matthewdave_, just erase the last 2 lines in sources.list08:47
dave_ok08:47
matthewmaryen, yeah, and we don't know how...but we fixed it.08:47
maryenk08:47
matthewdave_, ok, so now paste it to pastebin again, please08:48
dave_ok08:48
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dave_ok its in the new postbin08:49
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intelikeydave_ you could do that like this;   grep -v '#' /etc/apt/sources.list | grep deb | sort -u | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list                               but be advised that that command string will show no mercy. it will over write the file /etc/apt/sources.list with what ever it displays on the screen.   so you might want to backup your broken file first.08:50
metresas I understand, chroot is for using i386 package on x86_64 ?08:50
matthewintelikey, don't tell him that08:50
matthewdave_, what's the url?08:50
dave_shit i  closed it08:51
intelikeymetres chroot is to run whatever with a different system root08:51
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dave_sorry08:51
dave_god  i thought we had finishe08:51
matthewdave_, no problem, just do it again08:51
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dave_i am just wait lol08:52
matthewintelikey, nice...cause, you know, suicide is illegal08:52
matthewdave_, ok, goodbye08:52
intelikeyyes it is.08:52
dave_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38049/08:52
dave_awww sorry guys08:53
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matthewdave, that's not it08:53
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matthewdave_, that's not it08:53
momalSo they are going to charge you for trying to kill your self? thats smart >_>08:53
londo4Hallo08:53
matthewmomal, nah,just put me in jail...and it's only if I actually commit suicide...not just trying to...08:54
intelikeymomal why shouldn't they ?   if you try to kill someone else you get charged for it.08:54
londo4I m having a  problem with this repositor deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf dapper free non-free08:54
matthewdave_, that's not it08:54
momalmatthew: lol... then they really can08:54
lupine_85 /attempted suicide/ is illegal in the UK08:55
londo4who can help me with this repositor: deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf dapper free non-free08:55
intelikeybut it is true that it's much easier to get off as krazy if you try to do your self in.....08:55
momalmatthew: lol... then they really can't charg you... intelikey: but its your self not someone else...08:55
dave_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38065/08:55
matthewlupine_85, hmm, didn't know that...08:55
dave_try thatr08:55
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lupine_85therefore, it logically follows that if you stop someone from committing suicide, you have assisted them in the crime of attempted suicide08:55
lupine_85(since if you didn't intervene there would be no crime)08:55
matthewlupine_85, gotta love your logic08:55
lupine_85so then one must ask... is being an accessory to attempted suicide a crime?08:56
matthewdave_, you didn't paste the whole thing.08:56
londo4when I hit sudo apt-get I get error08:56
user________avoeeeeeeeeeeeeeee08:56
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gioavoeeeeeeeeeeeeeee08:57
intelikeylupine_85 ?    if you stop some from attemped murder you have assisted them in the crime of attempted murder ???08:57
lupine_85suicide, not murder08:57
momalAnyone have an recommendations for photo editors for linux ? (closest to photoshop as possile) and not gimp.08:57
lupine_85suicide isn't a crime in the UK, but attempted suicide is08:57
matthewdave_, you didn't paste the whole thing.08:57
londo4hallo help08:57
intelikeydon't give me that   suicide != murder08:57
dave_that all that in the source code08:57
lupine_85intelikey: I kid you not08:57
lupine_85attempted suicide is a crime08:58
dave_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38067/08:58
matthewintelikey, you may want to check this out!08:58
intelikeylupine_85 i know it is.08:58
intelikeydave_ yeah i looked    only repo you don't have is security08:58
matthewdave_, your sources.list got supremely screwed...you made a backup, right?08:58
unix_infidelmomal: gimpshop08:59
matthewintelikey, no, he's missing half of his sources.list08:59
dave_nope????08:59
intelikeymatthew not really it didn't.08:59
intelikeymatthew he only needs three lines.08:59
matthewintelikey, looks like more to me...08:59
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momal!sourceomatic08:59
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic.  It does not currently support Edgy sources.  When asked if it will, the reply was "maybe".08:59
unix_infidelmomal: also some people have had success with ps7 in linux.08:59
matthewdarn I wanted it to be really bad, then I could go to bed with a feeling of satisfaction.08:59
matthewoh well.09:00
unix_infideland there's always vmware.09:00
londo4Help with this repositor :deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf dapper free non-free.  when I hit sudo apt-get I get this Error:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38066/09:00
matthew!sourcomatic | dave_09:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sourcomatic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:00
matthew!sourceomatic | dave_09:00
ubotudave_: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic.  It does not currently support Edgy sources.  When asked if it will, the reply was "maybe".09:00
lupine_85making edgy sources is easy09:00
intelikeydeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main universe multiverse09:00
intelikeydeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main universe multiverse09:00
intelikeydeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main universe multiverse09:00
lupine_85make dapper ones, then s/dapper/edgy/09:00
intelikeythat's all my sources.list has in it  ^09:01
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momalunix_infidel: thanks... yea Im currently running ps: cs2 under vmware its just annoying though >_<.09:01
londo4Help Help09:01
lupine_85londo4: that repo doesn't exist any more09:01
lupine_85!seveas09:01
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages09:01
lupine_85try that09:01
dave_so get the ubuntu one?09:02
intelikeydave_ you do see what i posted ^ ?09:02
matthewok, I'm going to bed.09:02
matthewintelikey, you got this?09:02
matthewdave_, if you have anymore questions, talk to intelikey09:02
matthewg'night all09:02
dave_thanks09:03
dave_sorry bout been a noob09:03
matthewdave_, np, so long as you learn. remember, we all started somewhere09:03
dave_:)09:03
intelikeynot me.  i started nowhere.09:03
matthewintelikey, oh yeah? well, I started everywhere!09:04
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intelikeyand havent gotten to somewhere yet.09:04
mattheweverywhere inc. that is...lol09:04
matthewok, now I really _am_ going to bed!09:04
intelikeymatthew yeah but you haven't gotten anywhere ?09:04
matthewI already am everywhere...why go anywhere?09:05
matthewwait, no...I'm in bed, remember?09:05
intelikeysee09:05
matthewno...good night09:05
intelikey:)09:05
intelikeygood night and good luck to your pinguin09:05
matthewthanks....09:05
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intelikeyi have a very issue.   all my issues are very odd, but this is no exception.    df doesn't list the root fs09:07
intelikeytty24 [root@~]  df09:07
intelikeyFilesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on09:07
intelikeytty24 [root@~] 09:07
intelikeyvery odd that is.  ^09:07
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jamesb_intelikey: tried "df /" ?09:08
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intelikeyhehhe that works but still odd output.09:09
intelikeyFilesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on09:09
intelikey-                     1.2G  1.2G   76M  94% /09:09
BrianSteffenscan anyone help me figure out why ssh is telling me remote host identification has changed?09:10
LathiatBrianSteffens: that means perhaps ssh was reinstalled09:10
LathiatBrianSteffens: or you changed the ip of the host and there was one you used before09:10
BrianSteffenslathiat fressh ssh installs on both server and client09:10
LathiatBrianSteffens: if you remove the line from .ssh/known_hosts that it says it'l go away (but only do this if you know the key should have changed, i.e. its a different machien or you reinstalled)09:10
LathiatBrianSteffens: or to be lazy and cheat remove the whole fil09:11
Lathiate09:11
intelikeyyou can probably rm ~/.ssh09:11
intelikey-r09:11
BrianSteffenslathiat ok thanks :D09:11
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intelikeyand mount doesn't / as being mounted09:12
intelikeytty24 [root@~]  mount09:12
intelikeytty24 [root@~] 09:12
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intelikeythat's kinda kewl.   i don't remember making it do that.09:13
intelikeynot sure how i did it either...09:14
Alarmgoodmorning... how could i set my system up so that it will create a boot.log file ? i saw that with KsystemLog app, it tells me that the file boot.log does not exist09:14
dave_intelikeyyyyy stuck again09:14
intelikeydave_ k what it is ?09:14
dave_the source code i dont understand those links ou sent me>09:14
intelikeyi didn't send you....09:15
intelikeythat was matthew09:15
dave_shuld i just like reinstall kubuntu and  start again09:15
intelikeyi showed you my sources.list09:15
dave_hmm k well i am friek9ing confussed09:15
intelikeyno no.09:15
dave_ok109:16
dave_!09:16
intelikeydave_ let me pastebin you a full list and you can clear yours and copy and paste in this one.09:16
intelikeygive me a sec.09:16
dave_:) so thats  the kate file?09:16
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touchmeI've been following the exact set of instructions to install my touchscreen, but I encounter an error09:17
touchmeHow do I correct FATAL: Error inserting touch (/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/usb/misc/touch.ko): Invalid module format09:17
intelikeydave yes   sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list09:17
intelikeydave_ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38071/plain/09:17
lupine_85kdesu kate ...09:18
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intelikeydoes kate make backups by default ?09:18
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lupine_85or better, sudo chown me:me <file> && kate <file> && sudo chown root:root <file>09:18
intelikeylupine_85 no.  you don't want anyone but root owning sources.list09:19
aleksanterihey anyone knows a command to reconfigure the internet connection?09:19
lupine_85for a single-user system it hardly matters much09:19
intelikeyif kate fails  then that doesn't do the last chown.09:19
lupine_85then s/&&/;/09:20
intelikeythat would work.09:20
aleksanteri!adsl reconfigure09:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about adsl reconfigure - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:20
lupine_85&& is probably a bad habit on my part :S09:20
intelikeyit's a very good tool but not always the best.09:21
aleksanteri!connection reconfigure09:21
aleksanteri...09:21
intelikeyone doesnt want to use the ax to do nose sergury   nor the scaple to split fire wood.09:21
touchmeAnyone?09:22
aleksanteri!internet connection reconfigure09:23
dave_ok don that now what can i try to cee if it works?09:23
intelikeydave_ sudo apt-get update09:23
intelikeyyou always do that after you edit sources.list09:23
dave_command not found?09:24
intelikeytypo.09:24
intelikeyyours.09:24
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dave_????09:25
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intelikeyi'm the only one that gets bash; sudo, command not found.  you have sudo.09:26
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intelikeytty24 [root@~]  sudo09:27
intelikeybash: sudo: command not found09:27
intelikey:)09:27
dave_Sorry?09:27
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dave_what am i surpossed to be doing?09:28
intelikeydave_ sudo apt-get update09:28
intelikeyin a konsole09:28
intelikeyand your done with that.09:28
aleksanteriplz? i can't get help from google :S09:29
dave_seems to be updating!09:29
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aleksanteri!adsl09:30
ubotuSetting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE09:30
intelikeyaleksanteri igconfig ?09:30
dave_have you played with the Klik i thyink its called i was reading about it last night because package maneger wasnt working!?09:30
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aleksanterio thx :)09:30
osliveanyone here?09:30
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aseigono09:31
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metresis it a good way to run synaptic under chroot to get package ?09:31
dave_how do you run synaptic?09:32
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dave_i am only new soz09:32
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intelikeydave_ you can type in synaptic   or use the menu to launch it.09:32
tidixonhi, i'm trying to get it so I only have a panel on one desktop and that the other desktops have no panels.  i feel like the option should be someplace but i can't seem to find it, can anyone help?09:32
metrestyping it in konsole..?09:32
intelikeymetres you need to     man chroot09:33
dave_i dont think i have it yet?09:33
dave_i cant find it in the menu09:33
intelikeydave_ try the command   synaptic    and see if it opens09:33
BrianSteffensto format a partition as ext3, should i use mkfs or mk2fs?09:34
intelikeymkfs.ext309:34
BrianSteffenstyty09:34
intelikeyor mke2fs -j09:34
intelikeysame thing.09:34
dave_ok i can only runb it in read only function and it loaded but i am lost from here?09:34
intelikeyclose it.09:35
intelikeydo kdesu synaptic09:35
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dave_cant scroll  down or anything09:35
intelikeythen it will give you full access.09:35
intelikeyclose it.09:36
intelikeydo kdesu synaptic09:36
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aleksanteri:( "igconfig: command not found"09:36
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intelikeyifconfig  not ig    if i said ig it was a typo09:37
aleksanterioops09:37
aleksanterimy fault :P09:37
dave_OMG OMG I think its Working :)09:37
intelikeyyes i should have said kdesu the first time.09:37
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intelikeythat was bad advice i gave.  so i'll take a break09:38
dave_ok so where would i find the blasted  mp3 decoder so i can listen to music?09:38
intelikeyfor about ten days maybe09:38
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intelikey!mpt09:38
intelikey!mp309:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mpt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:38
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:38
intelikeydave_ there  ^09:38
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intelikeydave_ search for   libxine-extracodecs   in synaptic  that's easier.09:40
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dave_ok i have download the  libxine-extracodecs so will that automatically but it into my amarok for mp3's09:42
dave_?////09:42
dave_still no mp3's?09:43
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dave_intelikey_i still have no mp3's09:45
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deuswow you guys are still up09:46
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malik__hi all...........i use to be able toplay two sounds at the same time but not anymore...............any idea what may have caused it and how to fix it?09:47
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soonI need a new and complete sources.list ... I found one for ubuntu at http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-edgy-eft-complete-sourceslist-repository-list-file.html09:50
aleksanteriok command to enable interface?09:50
soonwill it also work for me kubuntu?09:50
The^Molesoon: Yes.09:50
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soonthx09:50
soonwould someone flood me a working sources.list (i need to include some python-gtkw stuff)?09:52
aleksanterican it be done with ifconfig?09:52
aleksanteri!pastebin09:53
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)09:53
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soonwas that a paste for me?09:54
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soonif so I need the specific URL09:54
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aleksanteri!pastebin | soon09:55
ubotusoon: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)09:55
aleksanteri:P09:55
aleksanteria link is there09:56
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soonaleksanteri ... what I need is a copy of your sources.list ...09:57
aleksanteriwell09:57
aleksanterii haven't added anything there09:57
soonso if you would pastbin a copy of yours for me to copy :-)09:57
aleksanterialso i am on win :P09:57
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aleksanteribecause kubuntu can't connect to internet09:57
aleksanteribut i guess i found the answer now :)09:58
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soon:-) okay thanks anyway09:58
aleksanterioh god how can i remember those commands? O_o09:58
aleksanterihttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=107762 the only comment09:59
The^Molesoon: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38079/09:59
soonGreat thx !09:59
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The^MoleIt's not tidy.. but they all work.09:59
The^MoleI don't whether it's got what you want, though.09:59
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avalonIf I have the build-essential package installed, and I'm in a directory with a make file, why can't I get it to do a ./configure and a make?10:00
aleksanteriis it saying that it can't find automake?10:00
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avalon./configure: No such file or directory10:01
aleksanteriuse cd10:01
aleksantericd <directory>10:01
aleksanterithen ./configure10:01
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intelikeyhmmm i'm glad i had a custom kernel to boot to    cause booting into the dapper kernel flys streight into runlevel 610:01
aleksanteriwhere <directory> is the directory where the configure file is10:01
avalonI'm in the directory. I don't have a configure file. In the dir, I have files called COMPILE, makefile, touch.c, touch.h10:02
aleksanteri./COMPILE10:02
aleksanterithen10:02
intelikeyis there anyway to stop a reboot so i can see what the error is ?10:03
aleksanteriu can only use ./configure when the configure file exists :)10:03
aleksanteriwell10:03
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aleksanteribrb, gonna try those commands out10:03
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avalonsudo: ./COMPILE: command not found10:03
avalonand without the sudo I get permission denied10:03
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intelikeyavalon make configure10:04
avalonmake: *** No rule to make target `configure'.  Stop.10:04
intelikeyavalon make config10:04
intelikeyor menu_config10:04
intelikeyor what ever it does have10:04
intelikeyyou can look in the make file and see10:05
intelikeybut it's far better to read the docs10:05
intelikeythey are the files in UPPER CASE10:05
VR_avalon: i just got here, but do you have build-essential installed?10:07
avalonYup.. I got what they wanted me to to do out of the COMPILE file... but I don't think it works with Kubuntu10:08
avalonI'll paste it with pastebin10:09
avalon!paste10:09
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)10:09
avalonhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38082/ How do I do the top part?10:09
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avalonhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38082/ That's the file VR_, but I don't think the top part will work with our distro will it?10:11
malik__which packge is neede to burn audio cd from mp3z in k3b?10:11
VR_avalon: i'm not really sure, but this looks like it should work on any distro10:12
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avalonI get this when I try to do that10:14
avalonmake[2] : *** [drivers/infiniband/ulp/srp]  Error 210:14
avalonmake[1] : *** [drivers/infiniband]  Error 210:14
avalonmake: *** [_clean_drivers]  Error 210:14
VR_avalon: im sorry man i have no idea what to do with that :10:15
VR_:(10:15
malik__which packge is neede to burn audio cd from mp3z in k3b?10:15
davehey all again does anyone know if Kopete keeps chat logs and if so where?10:16
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armywarciao10:17
armywarragazzi ho un problema10:17
armywarnon ricordo i suorce10:17
armywardove devo inserirli10:17
armyware non s quali sono10:17
Lynoure!it10:18
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!10:18
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LynoureI only got that you have a problem (not with what) and maybe something about sound10:18
Lynouresound quality? With what?10:19
BrianSteffenscould someone please tell me what is wrong with this fstab line i'm trying to add? : /dev/hda1    /media/storage    /ext3    defaults,errors-remount-ro    0     110:19
Lynoureextra /10:19
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LynoureBrianSteffens: in front of ext310:19
rcrookremove the / in /ext310:19
rcrookoops10:20
rcrooksorry to slow10:20
BrianSteffensoh i'm sorry.. i accidentally wrote that in. ignore that10:20
Lynourercrook: no harm :)10:20
BrianSteffensthat / isn't actually in there10:20
intelikeywell i found the problem.  now if i can fix it...     it seems the the new initramfs.img thought that root was sda in sted of hda10:20
rcrookthe = are supposed to be , ? maybe?10:20
LynoureBrianSteffens: please then copy paste the actual line to rule out typos10:20
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rcrookthe - 's10:20
AlexC_hey,10:20
AlexC_I have a .qtcurve file, but how do I install it?10:20
Lynoureerrors=  and not errors-  , yes10:21
BrianSteffenspasted: /dev/hda1       /media/storage  ext3    defaults,errors-remount-ro      0       110:21
intelikeyanybody know anything about initramfs ?10:21
rcrook /dev/hda1       /media/storage  ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro      0       110:21
intelikeyerrors=10:21
rcrookthe =10:22
visik7anyone got issues with kdebluetooth and edgy ?10:22
Lynoureechoy here today :)10:22
BrianSteffensooo thank you all10:22
rcrooklol yup Lynoure10:22
intelikeyanybody know anything about initramfs ?    ?         ?10:22
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Lynourevisik7: have you checked on the Launchpad yet? The open bugs can be found there?10:23
rcrooksorry intelikey no idea here10:23
mehmetalo10:23
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intelikeyk10:23
AlexC_how do I insatll .qtcurve themes, what ever they are!10:23
Lynoureintelikey: Surprised to see you join the anybody train =)10:23
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AlexC_not as simple as Gnome's drag n drop :P10:23
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visik7Lynoure: yes nothing, more over the problem that I got is not present on another installation10:23
intelikeyLynoure it was only a shot in the dark.    hopping to get lucky10:24
Lynourevisik7: different bt hardware, maybe?10:24
visik7yes10:24
visik7Lynoure: (my hardware work perfectly on dapper)10:24
intelikeyLynoure i've asked a lot of questions in here.  only an EXTREEMLY small number of them get answered in here.10:25
intelikeylike two.10:25
Lynourevisik7: then you might find the cause of it on Launchpad10:25
visik7Lynoure: there isn't any reference to kdebluetooth on malone10:25
Lynoureintelikey: ok, "yes, but not much"10:25
intelikeywhere is the device information stored for mkinitramfs  ?10:26
Lynourevisik7: at least https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebluetooth10:26
alleevisik7: fwiw: my bt mouse is forgotten everytime it goes to sleep.  Have not looked at 'why' yet10:26
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AlexC_What do I do with a .qtfile? please10:27
AlexC_.qtcurve*10:27
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intelikeyi just made a new initramfs.img but it wrote root as sda  not hda   root for this system is hda     @ Lynoure10:27
Lynoureintelikey: not in /etc/mkinitramfs/initramfs.conf ?10:27
Lynoureintelikey: there was one device setting there, at least10:27
intelikeyLynoure no it's not there.10:29
mehmetCTRL+ALT+DEL10:29
mehmetCTRL+ALT+DEL10:29
mehmetCTRL+ALT+DEL10:29
intelikeyLynoure grep -HiRe sda /etc/mkinitramfs   comes up empty.10:29
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Lynoureintelikey: interesting, it is there on dapper10:30
Lynoureno, sorry, misread10:30
intelikeyi'm on dapper.10:30
Lynouresda is where you want to write your image?10:31
Lynoureor where you want it to mount?10:32
tilkHello. I read in FAQ "how to play MP3" and there is written "install akode-mpeg agstreamer0.8-mad " but there is nothing called like that in my package manager and I cant play MP3 in this time. My distro is Kubuntu 6.0610:32
intelikeyno it's writing an image that looks for root to be dev/sda   root is hda   so when it boots  it loops to runlevel 6 cause sda is not mounted   even tho   the root fs has to be mounted for init to take over10:32
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Lynoureintelikey: there is a switch for the root setting, and it's as   auto  probably in your configuration file10:33
intelikeyin other words there is stale information about the root fs being sda   from before i copied things over.10:33
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intelikeyroot= local  or nfs10:33
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intelikeyno help done looked.10:34
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Lynoureintelikey: it's very interesting if what you want is not explained in man initramfs.conf  but luckily I did not claim to know the answer :)10:36
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intelikeywell thinks for the ToD Lynoure,  at least you tried.  :)10:37
ReTyPehow do i install xgl on ubuntu 6.10 ?10:37
AlexC_What do I do with a .qtcurve file please?10:38
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Lynoureintelikey: good luck, once you find your answer, it might make sense to blog about it or something, to help others find it too10:39
AlexC_ReTyPe: there is a good guide on the Beryl Wiki10:39
intelikeyk10:40
AlexC_anyone have any idea on what to do with a .qtcurve file?10:41
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intelikeyAlexC_ ~/.qtcurve   ?10:42
AlexC_intelikey: well it's a theme I downloaded,10:43
intelikeyno idea     not a gui guy.10:43
AlexC_hum, can't believe it's this hard to install new themes in kde!10:43
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intelikeyLynoure i found my answer.    disreguard all previous remarks.    pebcak has struck again.10:46
Jucatowhat kind of "theme" is it?10:46
Jucatopebcak or pebkac?10:46
JucatoAlexC_: http://docs.kde.org/userguide/customizing-desktop.html10:46
AlexC_Jucato: a nice theme ... I don't know what you mean lol10:46
AlexC_ahh tahnks, I'll check that out10:46
AlexC_s/tahnks/thanks10:46
Jucatowhich looks better? PEBKAC or PEBCAK? just wondering...10:47
intelikeyLynoure it seems i had hacked /etc/init.d/chkrootfs.sh    and it was the offending file, not the initramfs.10:47
intelikeyJucato it depends on which dirrection it's going.10:47
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intelikeyone might say pebcac  but that would confuse many.10:48
intelikeyconsole and chair10:48
Jucato:)10:48
AlexC_or Konsole :P10:48
AlexC_Problem Exists between Konsole and Console10:48
Jucatook Konqueror...10:49
Jucatoor KDE... or...10:49
Jucatos/ok/or10:49
Lynoureintelikey: :)10:49
Jucatodarn typo faeries...10:49
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intelikeybut the standard of the keyborad and the chair is pretty discriptive10:49
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intelikeyLynoure odd that that some bit of code doesn't offend withthis kernel though.....10:50
intelikeyhave a look.   e2fsck /dev/hda && mount -no remount,rw / || reboot10:50
intelikeytell me why that would reboot one kernel but not another.10:50
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intelikeywell that's the repaired string   it had    sda    where hda is now.10:51
intelikeythat is ran from    /etc/rcS.d/S00checkroot.sh10:52
Lynoureintelikey: I can probably not figure that out without having the kernels. And possibly other bits of information.10:52
intelikeyyeah.   i only meant venture a guess  :)10:52
LynoureI do not have a guess I would be willing to bet on :)10:53
intelikeyme neither....10:53
intelikeythey are both 2.6.15 kernels10:53
LynoureSome difference in the ext2 support?10:54
TheMoleHi, my edgy box has *just* decided that it no longer wants to mount my mass storage device. I've tried it with two different devices and rebooted but to no avail, any idea how to do it manually?10:54
intelikeyone has built-in ide scsi extfs support the other doesnt10:54
intelikeybut the sda is never mounted.10:54
intelikeyit should reboot both of them.10:55
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intelikeyTheMole unpluge/replug it ?    (thinking usb...)10:55
TheMoleintelikey: Yup, done that multiple times, tried different points.10:56
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TheMoleIt recognises the device is there if I probe it, but wont mount it.10:56
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LynoureTheMole: And there _is_ something mountable there?10:56
TheMoleLynoure: What do you mean?10:57
LynoureTheMole: I just asked a question, to make sure.10:57
TheMoleNo, I mean... by that what do you mean?10:57
stdina file system10:58
LynoureTheMole: No hidden meanings, just that if your disk is one big blob without partitioning, then it could note mount10:58
Lynoures/note/not10:58
TheMoleAh, yes, there is a file system there.10:58
intelikeyLynoure i have no partitions.10:58
Lynourestdin: you were so much clearer with so less words10:58
intelikey8 drives  and not one partition.10:59
stdinit's a gift :p10:59
Lynoureintelikey: I'm non-native, tired and hungry and not very much of a verbal wizard at my best :)10:59
intelikey:)10:59
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TheMoleThere isn't a mention of /media/sda in my fstab file, should there be?11:00
stdinTheMole: not if it's removable and not always connected11:01
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TheMoleAhh.11:01
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TheMoleSo, what is the command to mount a sda manually?11:01
LynoureTheMole: no, automounting does not require that. But, so, what has changed since the last time? THere is also a brutal possibility of something being wrong with your disk.11:01
intelikeyTheMole you can make an entry with "noauto" as a option.11:01
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TheMoleLynoure: Nothing has changed at all... tried it with two different devices, my phone and mp3 player.11:02
LynoureTheMole: which filesystem you have on it? and do you have it on sda (unusual) or like on sda1?11:02
intelikeyTheMole sudo mount /dev/sda /media/sda11:02
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stdinTheMole: for removable devices, one usually uses pmount /dev/sda1 [name] 11:02
stdinno sudo needed11:02
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intelikeybut if it's partitioned it will be sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda111:02
TheMolemount point does not exist.11:03
stdinpmount creates a mount point in /media11:03
TheMoleit's on sda.11:03
intelikeyTheMole partitioned or not ?11:03
TheMoleintelikey: Nope.11:03
stdinTheMole: what do you get with "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda" ?11:03
TheMoleIt's a 1GB SD card, formatted with FAT (I believe)11:03
TheMolenothing, back to the shell.11:04
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stdinhave you tried the pmount command?11:05
TheMoleYeh, no /dev/sda found apparently.11:05
TheMoleWell, what do you know... it seems it's my usb port.11:06
goodthingi have a weird thing with raid1, when i archive files from /media/sda2/folder/. /media/backup(raid)/folder. and the copy a lot of files the system blanks on me11:06
TheMoleJust unplugged my mouse and tried in that port and it works.11:06
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TheMoleMany thanks for all your help, though!11:06
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intelikeyback11:07
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stdinyou logged in as root intelikey?11:08
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intelikeyno11:08
intelikeywell yes but not to irc  :)11:08
stdintuy tut :p11:09
intelikeyi have  a root console open11:09
stdinyou ident says n=root@...11:09
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intelikeystdin i know :)          but the root console.. i have to ahve or i have no root access at all11:09
Lynoureeasy to fake, though I do not see the motivation11:10
Lynoure(not to that, anyway)11:10
intelikeyit keeps me out of some channels11:10
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intelikey:)11:10
intelikeylike debian for example  :)11:10
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Lynourewhy?11:11
intelikey?11:11
intelikeycause they ban root.11:11
LynoureInteresting.11:11
intelikeymy irc client says i'm root... do the math.11:11
intelikeyor did you mean why use something that does keep me out ....11:12
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lupine_85mwahaha11:12
intelikeylupine_85 if ya can :)11:12
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goodthingwhy would a cp -va /media/sda2/folder1/. /media/backup/folder1/. being able to freeze my system?11:12
intelikey63.157.90.19111:12
lupine_85gah, if only you'd run bitchx... :p11:12
intelikeyssh is runnig have at it11:12
Lynoureintelikey: had no idea what they had banned. or whether you just get kicked, or treated badly, or feared getting targetted11:12
intelikeyLynoure no.  they have a permanatn ban on root    lots of channels do.11:13
intelikeyso i just don't go there.11:13
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intelikeywould you like an account name... ?11:15
intelikeytry guest  with passwd=x11:16
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towyncdoes anyone know how i can do checksum?11:19
Lynouresee man md5sum11:19
towynck,11:19
towynchow do i get out of man md5sum11:20
goodthingq11:20
stdinpress Q11:20
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towynccool thx goodthing, thx stdin =)11:20
towyncworks out fine, and thx Lynoure =)11:21
intelikeytowync you were "less"  you can    man less    for info    it's a very useful tool.11:21
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towyncintelikey hi there, haven't seen you in couple days =)11:22
towyncintelikey what does u were less mean =) i checked man less, but got confused =)11:23
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intelikeyless     less is more than more.    the less pager. it has search functions save capabilities   bi-dirrectional scrolling/paging   you can pipe things into it...11:24
intelikeywhen you do things that are going to output a lot of text and you want to be able to look at all of it   pipe through less.     command | less11:24
towyncintelikey ah cool, yeah i started seeing great tips in the man less pageee, i'll keep the command in mind, they explained some background info too, thx11:24
intelikeyyou bet.11:25
stdinless is very useful when looking at logs for example11:25
intelikeyyep11:25
intelikeyit's just a very useful tool.11:25
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intelikeyi absolutely despize that "more like feture" of bash.   i end up turning it off the first day i install....   more is so much less than less.11:26
towyncintelikey yeah, man more is a lot less informative than man less, it has 131 lines in man more and 8 times as much in man less =)11:27
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intelikeytowync yeah.     and why they would build more into bash is beyond me.   that was a code monkey in emacs i guess.11:28
towynccool =)11:29
rishikesh was configuring my ADSL router, the ethernet port is detected, but the usb port is not11:29
rishikesh[15:56]  <rishikesh> tried the command "pppoeconf -C" but not working11:29
rishikesh[15:56]  <rishikesh> any idea how to go about it?11:29
towynci just downloaded feisty herd1 and wanted to do a checksum11:29
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brandon__can anyone here help with an audio distortion problem11:30
rishikeshanybody knowing how 2 configure da USB port connection in the ADSL router as it is not shown in the availble connections List11:31
intelikey!sound | brandon__11:32
ubotubrandon__: If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin11:32
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intelikeyi wish i could stop this thing from opening tty[5-7]  at boot time.11:44
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intelikeyrunning X and playing a game (wesnoth)  free -m reports11:54
intelikey-/+ buffers/cache:         51        19711:54
intelikeyend the game and i get11:54
intelikey-/+ buffers/cache:         22        22611:54
intelikeyx running within 22m of ram.    i'm pleased with that.11:55
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intelikeywhat does that say about the 2g+ systems that they enable 6g+ of swap   hehhe11:57
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toutpthi there12:00
intelikeytoutpt12:01
stdin!hi12:01
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!12:01
joshualdoes anyone use e17 with kubuntu? wondering if I should try the SeerOfSouls e17 repo, or the edevelop e17 repo... any thoughts?12:01
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toutptdoes anyone use eclipse with edgy ?12:01
lupine_85toutpt: nah, I'm strictly a KDevelop or kate person :)12:02
toutptshame on me12:02
lupine_85:p12:02
toutptsorry just to try a module from a friend12:02
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toutpti m using kate to develop12:02
mariocthi toupt I use eclipse with buntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu512:03
marioctUbuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5)12:03
toutpti m on a ubuntu 6.1012:04
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vgetoutpt: yes, i use eclipse12:07
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toutptfrom the package12:08
toutpt??12:09
vgeyes, 3.2 from repos12:09
vge3.2.112:09
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toutpt:/12:10
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TheMoleHi, I've just done an update on my edgy distribution.. But now my nvidia drivers don't work. I tried selecting nvidia in xconfigure and I installed the restricted modules that match my kernel, but still no logo.12:16
ironfroggy_LTwhat is port 98 for?12:16
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TheMoleironfroggy_LT: http://www.auditmypc.com/port/udp-port-98.asp12:18
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benjaminhi, is there somwhere a list with k/ubuntu supported laserprinters?12:29
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stdinbenjamin: take a look at this website http://www.freestandards.org/en/OpenPrinting12:32
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Jucato_!printer12:32
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows12:32
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stdinthat's more cups info12:33
benjaminstdin:  thanks12:34
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guapolocohi12:53
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guapolocoanybody using beryl?12:53
guapoloconobody home?12:53
guapolocoit is really cool12:53
stdinhi guapoloco, I use beryl12:53
guapolocoexcellent12:53
guapolocojust got the update 1.412:54
guapolocoit's awesome12:54
guapolocohad a bunch of issues, but this one seems to be stable12:54
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stdinI always get it from svn, usually compile/install overnight12:54
guapolocoyeap12:54
guapolocosame here12:54
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stdinhave you seen the snow plugin?12:55
guapolocoohhh, no, not yet12:55
guapolocoI was just testing the fire one12:55
guapolocoburn12:55
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guapolocolooks cool12:55
guapolocolet me see12:55
guapolocoabout the snow one12:55
guapolocodon't see it12:56
guapolocoI'm looking at the animations tab12:56
guapolocois it part of the animations?12:57
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JohnFluxi use beryl from time to time12:58
JohnFluxbut keep going back to kwin12:58
guapolocoyeah, it was buggy12:58
JohnFluxi can't wait for kwin to have compiz support12:58
guapolocoafter I updated to edgy12:58
guapolocobut beryl 1.4 is really cool12:58
guapolocosvn12:58
guapolocowell, going to check some other stuff12:59
guapolocohave a great time12:59
guapolocotake care you all12:59
JohnFluxcya12:59
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guapolocothis reminds me on the earlier days of chatting12:59
guapolocowhere everybody was kind of educated01:00
guapolocohaha01:00
guapolocosee ya01:00
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malik__!video cd01:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about video cd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:15
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j_!gstreamer01:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gstreamer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:17
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j_is there any benefit in using aRts instead of gstreamer for audio output?01:18
j_!arts01:18
ubotuarts: sound system from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.4-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 5 kB, installed size 36 kB01:18
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malik__does any   one knows how to make vcd in k3b or kubuntu?01:19
j_google doesn't know, seems like no one konws01:19
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soulriderhi01:50
soulrideris anyone here having issues with open office just crashing randomly ?01:50
soulrider!java01:50
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository01:50
[GuS] Hi!01:52
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ashadeehello01:52
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ashadeeneed some help on java with firefox01:53
stdinwhat's the problem ashadee?01:53
ashadeeit always says missing plugin for java run time.01:54
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brandon__does anyone know how to change hostname01:54
stdinhave you installed sun-java5-bin and sun-java5-plugin ?01:54
ashadeeyes i did01:54
stdinbrandon__: read man hostname01:55
Jucatosun-java5-plugin must be installed separately. it doesn't get installed with sun-java5-bin or sun-java5-jre...01:55
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ashadeeok.01:56
stdinashadee: what do you see when you go to about:plugins in firefox?01:56
brandon__stdin: hostname name smith01:56
stdinhuh?01:56
brandon__i still don't get how to do it01:57
stdinI said to rad the man page01:57
stdinman hostname01:57
brandon__oh wait i did it right01:57
brandon__sorry01:57
stdinit tells you how to change the hostnemw01:57
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stdin*hostname01:57
ashadeestdin: where is about:plugins? i can't find that menu option01:58
abattoir!hostname01:58
ubotuUse hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly01:58
Jucatoashadee: type that in firefox's address bar01:58
stdin^^^ yep01:59
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Guardianhi01:59
Guardianis there a documentation dedicated to kubuntu+compiz ?01:59
abattoir!compiz02:00
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems02:00
ashadeeshockwave and furesplash02:00
Jucatohm...02:00
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Jucatoashadee: did you do "sudo update-alternatives --config java" already?02:00
Guardianah gonna check this tinyurl thx02:01
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vgeis it possible to connect trought two servers into cvs server?02:03
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khi02:04
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ki need some help please02:05
thePuckis anyone here?02:05
vge!ask02:05
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)02:05
thePucklol02:05
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Ksorry02:06
Jucato!anyone02:06
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?02:06
Jucato:)02:06
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thePuckI did a fresh install of windows and made two partitions with the xp part. manager and now it has all the free space set up as logical paritions and I can't make any primary partitions now...will the kernel care what kind of parition it boots from?02:07
thePuckanyone?02:08
stdinAFAIK linux won't care, as long as grub can see the partition, it will boot02:08
thePuckhmm ok thanks wish me luck02:09
stdingood luck :p02:09
vgegl02:09
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linux_hey guys, I have a little problem there is combody on the network with a DHCP-server probably he doesn't now that it is on02:12
linux_is there a program so that I can see who had a DHCP on ?02:12
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stdinlinux_: ethereal, it will let you see where the DHCP packets are coming from02:13
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WindwalkerHi. Can somebody tell me what the "/usr/bin/screen" option offers when adding a user?02:19
linux_okey thanks I will try that :)02:20
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cryptomhi, is there a linux programm that can download an entire website (with every locally linked page)?02:29
Lynourecryptom: wget02:30
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Lynourecryptom: But you need to get to know it a bit, or you'll easily download too much or too little02:31
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cryptomdo you know the options? I'm in a hurry, we have a disciplinary problem in a school, dont know how long the page will be online02:31
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Realistic_Dragonmorning all02:35
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j_Anyone have a pretty graphic for the KDE start button? the default one has too much gloss02:36
j_actually I think I'll create a dragon-themed myself, it'l be the beginnig of my full blown kde-theme =)02:38
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j_except I can't find the graphic02:40
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tamacrackerHey guys, where's my icon folder located?02:44
tamacrackerI'd like to use them for some images of my own.02:44
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Hobbseetamacracker: /usr/share/icons/02:45
tamacrackerokies :D02:45
Hobbseedo a locate icons to see all of them02:45
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sandboxQuestion for everyone: Running kubuntu 6.10 edgy, I'm trying to install a command line MSN client and after running ./configure I'm getting an error ssl.h not found. Any Suggestions?02:50
Hobbseeinstall openssl-dev02:52
Hobbseebut what are you trying to compile?02:52
sandboxIt's called tmsnc02:52
sandboxtext based msn client02:52
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Hobbsee!info tmsnc edgy02:53
ubotutmsnc: textbased (console) MSN client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-1 (edgy), package size 43 kB, installed size 156 kB02:53
Hobbseesandbox: sudo apt-get install tmsnc - it's already in the repos02:53
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sandboxPlease tell me you're joking.02:53
Hobbseenope02:53
soulriderHobbsee: you know of any CLI that will work like conky? by that i mean it can sit in my desktop background02:53
sandbox(:02:54
Hobbsee!info conky02:54
ubotuconky: highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.2-1 (edgy), package size 118 kB, installed size 376 kB02:54
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Hobbseei dont understand the question02:54
soulriderwell02:54
soulrideryou see how conky shows the satts in the background?02:54
Realistic_Dragonconky is buggy with KDE02:54
soulrideri want a console that can be in the background02:54
Realistic_Dragonit doesnt work if you have desktop icons instead02:54
soulriderlike some sort of wallpaper :P02:54
soulriderRealistic_Dragon: i never ahve icons, hate icons02:55
Hobbseeoh right02:55
Realistic_Dragonhmm, for a background console... read only or interactive?02:55
Hobbseeyou could just maximise a console  i guses, i'm not sure02:55
Realistic_Dragonid try aterm with the right settings02:55
soulriderRealistic_Dragon: interactive of course02:55
soulrider!info aterm02:55
ubotuaterm: Afterstep XVT - a VT102 emulator for the X window system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0-2 (edgy), package size 78 kB, installed size 224 kB02:55
Realistic_Dragonaterm then02:55
Realistic_Dragoni think you can get superkaramba to do what you want as well but itll be a pest :)02:56
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soulriderlol02:56
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soulrideri need to get a decent conky script02:56
Realistic_Dragonyou can use the kde WM to switch off borderss for aterm and set transparency and geomety, then set it to 'always below'02:56
soulridersometimes  all i see is a black square with some scripts02:56
soulriderahh, good idea Realistic_Dragon02:57
Realistic_Dragonwell, if you do decide to give superkaramba (a bit like conky) a go then there are some optimised scripts on my website :)02:57
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Realistic_Dragonthe ones on kde-look eat far too much CPU time so i made some modifications :P02:57
soulrideri have used superkaramba on the past02:57
soulriderand a link toy oure site would be interesting :P02:58
Realistic_Dragonwww.revis.org02:58
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soulridermoms calling me to go have lunch02:58
soulriderill be back later, and thanks for the tips :D02:58
Realistic_Dragonnp02:58
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lars__hello! is anyone speaking german?03:04
stdin!de03:05
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de03:05
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lars__kann mir jemand sagen, wieso amarok keine mp3 dateien abspielt?03:05
stdin!de | lars__03:05
ubotulars__: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de03:05
Realistic_Dragonthe only thing i can say in german these days is "i have a stick"03:06
Realistic_Dragonand im not even sure if that is correct anymore :P03:06
stdinI can say "that is good"03:07
Realistic_Dragonoh, and "i am a doughnut" :D03:07
stdinwhy would you need to say that tho :p03:08
Realistic_DragonJFK said it :o added a word and changed the meaning from "i am a berliner" to "i am one doughnut"03:08
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j!scandinavian03:09
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about scandinavian - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:09
j!utf-803:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about utf-8 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:09
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soulrider!info sensors-applet03:22
ubotusensors-applet: Display readings from hardware sensors in your Gnome panel. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.8+dfsg-1 (edgy), package size 86 kB, installed size 452 kB03:22
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DarkWizdom!xmms crash fix03:23
ubotuxmms: Versatile X audio player. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.10+cvs20060429-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1085 kB, installed size 7248 kB03:23
Jucato:O03:24
Jucatothere's only a factoid for "adept crash fix" :)03:24
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Realistic_Dragonhmm i saw something on the wiki somewhere03:27
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Realistic_Dragonyou can use apt to rebuild the database i think03:27
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Jucatowhat do you mean?03:27
JucatoI think he was trying to look for a factoid about xmms crashing...03:27
Windwalkeranybody here using freenx?03:27
Realistic_Dragonoic03:27
Realistic_Dragonsorry03:27
Jucato:)03:28
asirusruskogovoryashie imeutsya?03:28
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Windwalkerasirus, ia govoriu nemnojko :)03:28
DarkWizdomyeah I was :D quite new to this :P03:28
DarkWizdomnu i ya toje ;)03:29
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Windwalker;)03:29
OODanyone know how to change the default file manager?03:29
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Windwalkeranybody using freenx and Kubuntu 6.06 or 6.10?03:29
JucatoOOD: not really sure, but I think it involves changing the File Association for some of the items in the inode group03:30
asirusWindwalker: mne nyjen izraelskiu channel #russisrael - znaesh' kak popast'?03:30
Windwalkerasirus, k sojalenie net03:30
asirusok tnx anyway $)03:31
Windwalkerti uveren shto etoto kanal v irc.freenode?03:31
asirusnet03:31
asirussha proverim03:32
DarkWizdomaleksanteri how do you like Edgy? :)03:32
aleksanteriinternet doesn't work03:32
aleksanteri:|03:32
DarkWizdomhhah03:32
DarkWizdomhappens :)03:32
asirusfyx IRC,Net03:32
asirus$)03:32
aleksanteriDarkWizdom: you know how to fix? :P03:33
DarkWizdomdepends what's the problem03:33
DarkWizdom :|03:33
aleksanteriDarkWizdom: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32221603:34
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OODJucato: i tried it but it's not working03:35
Jucatooh... :(03:36
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JucatoOOD: you changed the file association for folders?03:36
OODyeah03:36
Jucatoer.. directories?03:36
Jucatooh ok... :(03:36
OODah wait, directory works :D03:37
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DarkWizdomaleksanteri: when the interface is enabled, what output does ifconfig give?03:38
aleksanteriwell :P text03:38
aleksanteriabout 6-7 lines03:38
aleksanterino errors03:38
DarkWizdomI know :)) what exactly03:39
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DarkWizdomdoes it show your ip?03:39
aleksanterii think it did03:39
OODJucato: perfect, thanks :)03:39
Jucatoheh np. just don't blame me for weird things that may happen :P03:39
aleksanteriwhen i run ifdown and then ifup i get those errors03:40
DarkWizdomhmm... what kind of connection do you have? wi-fi, lan03:40
aleksanteriadsl03:40
OODim running fiesty, so weird things happen all the time :D03:40
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Jucatoheh03:40
dima2001is there a GDEbi alternative for KDE in development right now?03:40
dima2001just don't want to do double work (:03:41
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DarkWizdomaleksanteri: you don't have any wierd type of network card, do you? :)03:41
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aleksanterinetwork card? O_o03:42
DarkWizdomops :D03:42
DarkWizdomused to sharind adsl with friends..03:42
aleksanterino mine is personal :P03:42
hazarddo cron scripts of local users run even if the user isn't logged in?03:43
DarkWizdomanyway, "Also check your configuration file (/etc/network/interfaces)"03:43
hazard(specifically root's?)03:43
aleksanteriye i did03:43
DarkWizdomeverything ok there?03:43
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aleksanteridon't know :P what should be wrong there?03:43
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DarkWizdompost it and I'll tell you :D03:44
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aleksanteriusing pastebin? :P03:44
DarkWizdomalso, check synaptic for broken packages03:44
DarkWizdomyeah03:44
aleksanteriok03:44
aleksanteribut :P03:44
aleksanterithe thing is that i need to store it into a text file and then over usb to here :D03:44
aleksanterio well03:44
aleksanteribrb03:44
DarkWizdomok :))03:45
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BluesKajHowdy all ! :)03:51
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aleksanteri!pastebin03:52
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)03:52
DaSkreechBluesKaj: HOwdy do03:52
BluesKajHi DaSkreech, what's shakin'03:53
aleksanterihmm where did that text file suddenly disappear?03:53
DarkWizdom :D03:53
DaSkreechBluesKaj: Bash script Fu03:53
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aleksanteriO_O03:54
ForgeAushey all :)03:54
gubuntuhow do i get sshd action in konqueror03:54
gubuntusimilar to gnomes: "connect to server (ssh)"03:54
BluesKajBash script ? ...is that like a shell command ?03:54
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aleksanteriwell itc i need to get a new one03:57
aleksanteri:|03:57
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DarkWizdom:D03:58
aleksanteri:P03:58
aleksanteribrb03:58
DarkWizdomleave a link for me in private03:58
DarkWizdomneed to go :(03:58
DaSkreechBluesKaj: Yeah :)03:58
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DaSkreechBluesKaj: Or to be moe specfic a whole set of commands done as one command03:59
DaSkreechgubuntu: open konqueror03:59
DaSkreechgubuntu: type in fish://username@url03:59
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DaSkreechForgeAus: hi03:59
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DaSkreechnikkiana_lappy: Hello04:00
BluesKajik, a script is more than one , err sentence :)04:00
nikkiana_lappymorning DaSkreech04:00
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BluesKajok04:00
DaSkreechnikkiana_lappy: How are you?04:00
nikkiana_lappytired04:00
ForgeAushey skreech04:00
ForgeAusI love kubuntu... sofar04:01
ForgeAusforesight might be interesting tho04:01
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DaSkreechForgeAus: That's a new package?04:03
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DaSkreechWhat does it do?04:03
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ubuntukaneis ellinas?04:06
gubuntuthanks DaSkreech04:06
gubuntuyou da man04:06
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DaSkreechubuntu: Which language?04:09
DaSkreechgubuntu: What did i do?04:09
aleksanteriahh finally :D04:09
aleksanteri!pastebin04:09
ubuntugreek04:09
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:09
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BluesKaj!gr04:09
ubotu#ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes04:09
DaSkreechThanks BluesKaj04:10
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aleksanteriDarkWizdom: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38114/ here04:10
DarkWizdomok :)04:10
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jitawhat does edgy-propsed repo contain?04:11
DarkWizdomaleksanteri: you got fixed ip or not?04:11
aleksanterii have04:11
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DarkWizdomthen it might be better to point that manually... instead of telling it to dhcp04:12
aleksanteritried :P04:12
DarkWizdomunfortunately I need to go now04:12
aleksanteriawww :(04:12
DarkWizdomcan you give me your e-mail?04:12
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DarkWizdomI'll try to help when I get back :)04:13
aleksanteriok :P04:13
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stamenhi04:13
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aleksanteribye04:13
stamenwho can give me working skype04:13
DarkWizdomcheers! :)04:13
DarkWizdomcya04:13
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ForgeAushow do I get to peripherals?04:14
stamen!skype04:14
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto04:14
jitawhat does edgy-propsed repo contain?04:14
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jita!mp304:14
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:14
DaSkreechjita: Where did you see that?04:14
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jitaDaSkreech: in ubuntu guide04:15
DaSkreechjita: gimmie the link?04:15
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jitaDaSkreech: you asking about edgy-propsed repo right?04:16
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DaSkreechYeah04:16
jitaDaSkreech: http://ubuntuguide.org/04:16
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jitaDaSkreech: http://ubuntuguide.org/04:17
jitahttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories04:17
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DaSkreech:-)04:18
DaSkreechMy guess would be that it's a future version of edgy backports04:18
Jucatoor... those packages that were proposed to be included into edgy?04:18
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jitamaybe04:18
jitalike initramfs04:19
jitai read somewhere04:19
Jucatofor example, the version of the GIMP in there is the same version in Edgy already04:19
BluesKajDaSkreech, can you recommend a free unrar extractor that actually works, Karchiver fails everytime.04:19
ironfroggy_LTis there a really easy to setup web proxy in apt?04:19
JucatoBluesKaj: Ark?04:19
DaSkreechunrar-free04:19
JucatoDaSkreech: unrar-free is a bit limited compared to unrar04:19
ForgeAusis there another one like tgunzip?04:20
aleksanterikonsole?04:20
jitai am going to upgrade from edgy beta to current, what should i use ? apt-get update upgrade or dist-upgrade?04:20
jitaor aptitude :P04:20
DaSkreechJucato: No duh  :)04:20
Dr_willisive noticed that winrar.exe  used to work with wine.. but dont work any longer for me. :(04:20
Jucatodist-upgrade04:20
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ForgeAuswow krusaader does archives?04:21
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BluesKajok, installed unrar :)04:22
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ForgeAusyeah you need the commandline tool for krusader04:23
ForgeAusstill I like it :)04:24
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icheyneKrusader is awesome04:24
icheynemain thing that keeps me on kde04:24
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DaSkreechJucato: That's what I meant by a futuer backports :)04:25
JucatoDaSkreech: er?04:25
JucatoDaSkreech: backports for which release?04:25
DaSkreechedgy :)04:26
Jucatoit can't be the future backports for Edgy, since it contains the same version of the GIMP04:26
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DaSkreechWhats krusader?04:26
Jucato!krusader | DaSkreech04:26
ubotukrusader: twin-panel (commander-style) file manager for KDE (and other desktops). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.70.1-1 (edgy), package size 2547 kB, installed size 6940 kB04:26
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ubuntu__I have to admit.04:26
DaSkreechYeah but it did it before backports had it04:26
ForgeAusits like total commander for windows04:26
ForgeAusits a file manager...04:26
ubuntu__I am liking Kubuntu more than regular ol' ubuntu.04:26
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DaSkreechJucato: ca't you just split the view in Konqueror?04:26
ForgeAuskinda like konqueror but different04:26
JucatoDaSkreech: why ask me, I don't use it :P04:26
KwipperKubuntu seems to feel more like Windows.04:26
ForgeAusdaskreech probably04:27
DaSkreechKwipper: good Qui.. i mean kwip :)04:27
ForgeAusbut I don't think Konquerer does archiving04:27
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DaSkreechIt doesn't?04:27
JucatoForgeAus: what do you mean by archiving?04:27
DaSkreechright clicks and creates an archive04:27
MurchadhKonqueror does it all!04:27
ForgeAus.zips, 7z,s etc etc..04:27
aleksanteriye :P04:27
icheyneI didn't know konqui did dual pane view04:27
ForgeAusdoes it? wow I didn't know that04:27
JucatoForgeAus: it does04:27
aleksanteriKonqueror rocks04:27
icheynehow does it do it?04:27
Jucatoicheyne: Ctrl+Shift+L or Ctrl+Shift+T04:27
ForgeAussorry I guess I shoul dhave held my tongue04:27
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icheyneJucato, thanks04:28
JucatoForgeAus: of course, it just uses Ark (or whatever archiver app you have)04:28
DaSkreechFor vertical and horizontal04:28
Jucatoicheyne: then Ctrl+Shift+R to close the active/current panel04:28
DaSkreechJucato: is there a key to jump between the two?04:28
JucatoDaSkreech: not really sure... I don't think so...04:28
icheynethanks Jucato - I'll see if it rivals Krusader when I get home04:28
Murchadhctrl+shift+t or ctrl+shift+l to split panes in klonqi, F9 for a sidebar and you can have a konsole along the bottom.04:28
ForgeAusKrusader's really kewl anyway04:28
DaSkreechForgeAus: :D XD04:29
ForgeAusjucato, Ark is external to Konqeuror tho isn't it/04:29
ForgeAusits a separate app04:29
aleksanteri:)04:29
BluesKajok, how do i extract a file in konq?04:29
JucatoForgeAus: yes. you mean Krusader has an internal archiver? :O04:29
ForgeAusKrusader does it inside04:29
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JucatoBluesKaj: right-click04:29
ForgeAusyes04:29
aleksanteriwhoo04:29
ForgeAuswell actually its not quite inside04:29
Jucatohm.... and they say Konqueror tries to do it all..04:29
ForgeAus(its background)04:29
KwipperYou know, it would be kinda cool to get Windows XP to look more like Kubuntu.04:29
aleksanteriForgeAus: :P04:29
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ForgeAusnah Kwipper04:29
BluesKajusing konq04:29
DaSkreechKwipper: My friendt did it04:30
KwipperWhat is Konq?04:30
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DaSkreechit still crashed04:30
fly_80hello04:30
JucatoKwipper: Konqueror04:30
ForgeAuskrusader uses the command line utils in the b/g I guess04:30
icheyneKwipper, the file manager in kde04:30
ForgeAusI havn't actually tried it yet... but they're required for it to work04:30
ForgeAus(for many formats)04:30
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JucatoBluesKaj: right-click on the archive in Konqueror, and select Extract -> [one of the options] 04:30
ForgeAusesp rar04:30
fly_80anybody can help me making to work the wireless USB card?04:30
JucatoForgeAus: Ark is just a pretty frontend to command line utils :)04:30
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fly_80it is detected but it does'nt work04:31
ForgeAusJucato, good point04:31
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ForgeAusseems kinda buggy tho to me04:31
ForgeAusI don't like it much04:31
fly_80i also tried to install ndiswrapper04:31
fly_80but it continues to not work04:31
ForgeAusits like its trying to take off winzip and doing it badly...04:31
JucatoBasically, Konqueror calls Ark or Ark KPart, which really uses command line utilities...04:31
KwipperOoooh! I am really liking Kubuntu now04:31
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ForgeAusKwipper its awesome isn't it?04:31
ForgeAusKDE rox04:32
KwipperWhen I tried playing an MP3 file, it didn't support it, then it did something that Ubuntu doesn't really do. It automatically asked if I wanted to install Mp3 support04:32
KwipperThat I like!04:32
DaSkreech:-)04:32
ForgeAusthat other wm xfce? looks a bit bland/oldskool04:32
Jucatoxfce is also lighter and faster :)04:32
ForgeAusGnome seems to be somehow in the b/g of kubuntu...04:32
KwipperI hope more applications use this. It really makes installing drivers a breeze.04:32
SlimGDoes anyone know why this norwegian site won't show properly in my konqueror 3.5.5? it apparently works in Opera, It's supposed to be listing news but instead shows an animated .gif and the text "Henter saker...": http://kudos.no04:32
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DaSkreechForgeAus: But runs blazing on the computer in teh corner :)04:33
ForgeAusJWM?04:33
cloakableForgeAus: Joes Window Manager :P04:33
KwipperBasically if an application requires something that the computer doesn't have, it should provide an option where you can click on it to fix the problem.04:33
cloakable!jwm04:33
ubotujwm: Very small lightweight pure X11 window manager with tray and menus. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5-1 (edgy), package size 82 kB, installed size 268 kB04:33
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KwipperBRB04:33
ForgeAushmmm beryl is the stuff..04:34
ForgeAusnow that I've mostly ubuntu'd my kubuntu04:34
ForgeAuseek I forgot nautilus!04:34
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DaSkreechjava window manager :)04:34
BluesKajI try to use unrar , but it won't load , i jaut get along list of the stuff it will do , but there's no GUI04:34
JucatoDaSkreech: "java" and "lightweight" don't go together :)04:34
DaSkreech:-D04:34
DaSkreechBluesKaj: right there is no gui04:35
ForgeAuskTurtle is awesome :)04:35
DaSkreechit's a library with a light frontend (cli)04:35
JucatoBluesKaj: what does right-click -> Extract -> Extract here do?04:35
ForgeAusthe only thing I don't like is how they c-ized the [''s to be {}'s04:35
cloakableBluesKaj: try ark04:35
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aleksanterior tar04:36
aleksanteri:)04:36
DaSkreechSlimG: Turns up ok for me04:36
Jucatocan't use tar on .rar's04:36
ForgeAushmmm can you get adept to do some background installing while your waiting for the rest to d/l?04:36
aleksanterio04:36
aleksanteri:P04:36
ForgeAus(of course that'd only work for multiple non-dependant packages)04:36
ForgeAuswhich is one thing adept rox at, dependancies (lets you know if you break something)04:37
JucatoForgeAus: you can't. once APT is doing something, you can't use it for anything else (except searching)04:37
BluesKajit brings up ark, and it's not working ...it fails everytime04:37
aleksanterigot an idea on my connection :P brb04:37
JucatoBluesKaj: what do you mean by "fails"?04:37
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BluesKajit tries to extract for a few mins then i get a fail message04:38
ForgeAusI need to conserve space lol04:38
Jucato:O04:38
JucatoForgeAus: is Ark *that* big?04:38
ForgeAusprolly not04:38
ForgeAusits just that I don't need it04:39
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BluesKajit's juat a few hundred mb04:39
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BluesKajjust04:39
JucatoBluesKaj: hm.... maybe using unrar directly from the command line would give you more meaningful messages. either that or the archive itself is corrupted04:39
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ForgeAusand 2 command line tools for a format or two are going to be larger...04:39
JucatoBluesKaj: try opening it directly in Ark (right-click -> open with -> Ark)04:39
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BluesKajJucato, what's the right command in the terminal..04:39
BluesKajto unrar04:40
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ForgeAusum I odn't think Ark is 100+ mb04:40
Jucatoheh that I don't know :)04:40
ForgeAus100+kb perhaps04:40
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JucatoI think "unrar e archive.rar" ?04:40
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Dr_willisunrar --help04:41
Jucatoman:/unrar :)04:41
Dr_willis:) or actually it prints the help  by default i think04:41
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napstertest04:42
Jucatofail04:42
Guardianhmm04:43
BluesKajark just failed again04:43
MurchadhAnyone using konqueror as it installs in k/ubuntu should note that some of it's features are hidden by default. This can fix it sudo cp /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror-orig.rc /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc! You should backup /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc first. cp /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc.bak or something similar.04:43
Guardianon a fresh kubuntu 6.10, i insert an usb drive (i tried with several models), it asks me whether i want to open a new window with the content or do something else, i select open new window but it displays nothing04:44
Guardianand /media is empty04:44
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Guardianany idea please ?04:44
JucatoBluesKaj: if it still fails in the command line, then it's probably a corrupted archive04:44
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JucatoGuardian: click on the refresh button?04:44
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MurchadhGuardian: Can root see anything in there?04:44
JucatoMurchadh: http://jucato.org/kde/konq-profiles.html04:44
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MurchadhJucato: I'm useless, just spent 10 minutes looking for that. ?)04:45
Guardiannothing shows up when logged as root in /media04:45
mirshafiehey, what packages do i need to make amarok play mp3s? the damn thing refuses to install from the dialog i get when i want to play mp3s in amarok...04:46
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DaSkreech!away > _yyoman_04:46
MurchadhGuardian: Gotta find out where it's mounting. It's hardly just /media!04:46
napsterwhy dosn't my notebook shutdown? any ideas?04:46
MurchadhGuardian: Type mount04:46
Guardianwell it's hotplug stuff i guess04:46
rcrookcan anyone tell me if it is possible to resize a ext3 partition "on the fly" make it larger not smaller?04:46
Jucatomirshafie: libxine-extracodecs04:46
Guardianhmm /dev/sda1 is not mounted04:46
Guardiani guess it just fails to mount it properly ...04:47
TheGateKeepermirshafie, use the xine engine & install libxine-extracodecs04:47
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napstermirshafi: downst it ask you if you want to install MP3 support??04:47
mirshafieJucato, TheGateKeeper: strange, i already have it (and i use xine engine). but it still does not work04:48
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MurchadhGuardian: What is said /dev/sda1? External USB HDD? It may be ntfs or fat32.04:48
mirshafienapster: yes, but when i click that i want to install it automatically nothing happens. (actually, adept started one time, but it didn't do it's thing)04:48
Guardianit's usb flash drive04:49
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Guardianworks great on xubuntu and ubuntu04:49
Guardianbut not in kubuntu04:49
napsterenable sources04:49
BluesKajahh DaSkreech  , I had to cd to the folder (desktop) then do the unrar e command in the terminal ...it seems to be working ...we'll see04:49
TheGateKeepermirshafie, idk then because that is all that I had to do, & many other people find the same04:49
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mirshafieTheGateKeeper: idk?04:50
TheGateKeeperidk = I don't know04:50
Dr_willisidk what idk means...04:50
Dr_willis:)04:50
napsteropen adapt -->> view-->> manage R. ->>04:51
mirshafiehehe ok... i'll try something else04:51
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TheGateKeepermirshafie, I use audacious on gentoo as amarok install a lot of stuff & amarok is a tempremental bastard at times04:52
ForgeAusok  again in system settings how do I get peripherals to show up?04:53
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mirshafieTheGateKeeper: yea well, there are many nice music players out there, but i quite like amarok. (also it's qt wich is a big +)04:55
ForgeAushow about xmms???04:55
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ForgeAus(thats like a winamp-stlye one right? or at least at one time had a common theme that looked like winam)04:55
ForgeAusp04:55
TheGateKeeperas far as I know xmms is dying04:55
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ForgeAusyeah prolly is04:56
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ForgeAusand kubuntu's (is it amarok?) builds into Konqueror to extend it :)04:56
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BluesKajxmms is the default player in Streamtuner, and it works quite well04:57
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ForgeAuswhats streamtuner?04:58
j03'lo all.04:58
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j03I think its a directory browser.04:58
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ForgeAusoh also does *nix have a music tracker/synth/etc?04:58
BluesKajForgeAus, it's an internet radio stream utility04:59
ForgeAussequencer, thats what I waas trying to think of04:59
BluesKajkinda cool actually04:59
j03I'm not sure.04:59
DaSkreechForgeAus: A few actually04:59
ForgeAus(trackers were the old old commodore amiga name for them lol)04:59
Dr_willisI still have several Amigas :)04:59
ForgeAusDa, kewl which ones good?04:59
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Dr_willisThe Amiga Emulators out now are very very well done.05:00
ForgeAusDr, awesome machines in their time... kinda still are, but time's bypassed them05:00
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ForgeAusI agree05:00
ForgeAusUAE is AWESOME05:00
Dr_willisKilled by lousey marketing/company screwing up05:00
LjLdr_willis: emulator"s"? :)05:00
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ForgeAusyeah theres a few others05:00
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Dr_willistheres 2 out i think LjL and some variants on them05:00
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ForgeAusfor dos/windows at least05:00
Dr_willisUAE is the main one i use05:00
ForgeAusum.. Fellow05:01
LjLyeah, Fellow... did anybody ever care? :P05:01
ForgeAuslol LjL used to, once...05:01
Dr_willisI had a system set up where id login as 'amiga' and it would start up X and have UAE as the 'desktop'05:01
ForgeAusFellow was great for a time05:01
ForgeAushehe I remember once trying to get shapeshifter (macintosh emulation) running inside UAE..rofl05:01
Dr_willisI still miss CED, and CanDo, and how the AREXX 'ports' let you connect programs.05:01
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ForgeAusAREXX? amiga Rexx?05:02
LjLdr_willis: aka Amithlon DIY?05:02
LjLforgeaus: yes05:02
ForgeAusI have no idea what CED and CanDo are tho05:02
Dr_willisHeh - i rember when tracking down a 'mac rom'  was a 'cool thing'05:02
Dr_willisCed - text editor. CanDO  - sort of a Hyper Card CLone.05:02
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ForgeAusoh getting the rom is the easy bit rofl05:02
LjLforgeaus: arexx is the main scripting language on amigaos, most applications support it05:02
dan_jp2Hello! I can't use usb... And I get this from dmesg [   61.197099]  ohci_hcd 0000:00:01.2: can't setup .   Could anyone help me?05:03
Dr_willisCanDO went 'high doller' in its last release and got most of the users mad.. went the AmigaVision (i think) route.05:03
LjLanything that can be scripted can generally be scripted via arexx05:03
ForgeAuskewl I didn't have an Amiga05:03
ForgeAusI only emulated a few games05:03
ForgeAusmy cousin had one05:03
ForgeAusthat h e gave to my other cousin05:03
ForgeAusgreat machine05:03
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Dr_willisarexx was neat in that the text editor (ced) for example could talk with rexx scripts to my Datatbase program (MFF)  and get/send info.05:03
ForgeAusplays Battlechess like a charm :) rofl05:03
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Dr_willisBattleChess - a classic05:04
Dr_willisDungeonMaster - another clasic.05:04
Schuenemann"/dev/hda4 has been mounted 30 times without being checked, check forced" <--- what does this mean?05:04
ForgeAusof course PC's play battlechess too05:04
ForgeAusProjectX!05:04
Dr_willisSchuenemann,  the system checks the drives every so often to verify them..05:04
ForgeAusone game UAE can't play is Street fighter.. the original05:04
Dr_willisevery 30 mounts it seems. :)05:04
ForgeAuswhich was quite unique on the Amiga05:04
llutzSchuenemann: routine check of the filesystem, nothing to worry about05:04
SchuenemannI don't even know what is at hda405:04
llutzSchuenemann: "mount" will show you05:05
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circcheck /dev05:05
Dr_williswe are supposed to know? its your system..05:05
Dr_willis:)05:05
Schuenemannseems to be this own partition05:05
Schuenemannwhy doesn't kubuntu run on reiserfs?05:06
ForgeAusin fact Fighting Street for the TG16 (PC Engine) was the closest to arcade perfect port of SF1... till Mame emulated it that is05:06
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DaSkreechAnyone uases gamefu?05:07
ForgeAusthe other one I found quite interesting was the Amstrad CPC port!05:07
DaSkreechuses05:07
ForgeAusgamefu?05:07
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DaSkreechYeah05:07
ForgeAusum I got some emu-addons for kde05:07
ForgeAuswhats gamefu?05:07
fly_80ndiswrapper is installed correctly: it says: driver presente, hardware present. Why doesn't it work???05:07
DaSkreech!gamefu05:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gamefu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:07
DaSkreechDUmb bot05:07
Schuenemann"There are differences between boot sector and its backup" <-- How about this message?05:07
Imrahildoes anyone know what happened to the katapult site? thekatapult.net is supposed to be the new one, but it is not working yet and the old one has been down for at last a week05:07
llutzSchuenemann: doesn't it? reiser is avalable as module, so it should05:07
LjLschuenemann: i don't know precisely why it happens, but it's happened to a few people including me05:08
LjLi suppose you have a FAT partition05:08
Schuenemannllutz: when I booted from the CD, only ext305:08
ForgeAusI like Kubuntu so much I might extend my partition!05:08
SchuenemannI have a FAT at hdb105:08
akruscould someone tell me how to add a locale?05:08
DaSkreechForgeAus: http://dot.kde.org/1152484104/1152491999/05:08
ForgeAusReactOS was considering using ReiserFS as its default FS05:08
akruswhich is not listed in locale -a05:08
SchuenemannIs reiserfs available to dapper?05:08
SchuenemannI remember it wasn't there, when I installed05:09
akrusSchuenemann: additional libraries required05:09
akruslikely :)05:09
akrusI've seen it somewhere in APT05:09
LjLschuenemann: well i can never remember the command to fix that... i have it in my logs, but i'm not at my computer. i think it's fsck -ar, but can't swear on it05:09
ForgeAushow does Konqueror stack up against firefox 2?05:09
circits faster05:09
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Schuenemannakrus: I'm talking about the cd05:09
LjLschuenemann i also think you can use reiser if you install from the alternate cd, can't swear on that either05:09
circbut for me anyway, crashes quite a bit on some pages05:10
circso id rather stick to firefox05:10
SchuenemannI don't have that, I downloaded the ISo05:10
akrusI'm using firefox since it's more configurable05:10
SchuenemannISO(05:10
akrusand Opera as well :)05:10
LjLkonqueror is more than ok for me, but then i visit a quite limited number of sites05:10
SchuenemannISO**05:10
LjLthat is, google and wikipedia and the ubuntu wiki mostly .)05:10
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ForgeAusTrillian Astra might have a *nix port!05:10
circhmm05:11
circopera isnt in packages05:11
Dr_williswith the right repos it is.  i recall05:11
Schuenemannwho needs opera with firefox around? :p05:11
Dr_willis!opera05:11
ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser05:11
sandboxShould use w3m browser unless you like looking at graphics05:11
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ForgeAusif trillian had a *nix port I'd pretty much not need Windows at all!05:11
sandbox!w3m05:11
ForgeAusexcept that I'm running from within VMware now rofl!05:11
ubotuw3m: WWW browsable pager with excellent tables/frames support. In component main, is standard. Version 0.5.1-4ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1036 kB, installed size 1816 kB05:11
LjLsandbox: and then if you want graphics, what's wrong with links2? ;)05:12
sandbox:D05:12
ForgeAusstill migrating this image to a real HDD sounds interesting05:12
SchuenemannLjL: what is in the alternate cd?05:12
LjL!alternate05:12
ubotuThe Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.05:12
Schuenemanndid it say text-mode?05:12
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ForgeAusDreamLinux uses XFcE as its main WM and Opera as its main browser05:12
ForgeAusso whats planned for KDE?05:13
circalternate is good if you dont need all the stuff from ubuntu desktop05:13
Schuenemannkonqueror05:13
circlike gaim and openoffice etc05:13
Schuenemannbut why isn't reiserfs available from the desktop?05:13
LjLforgeaus: ...? what does that have to do with kde?05:13
Schuenemann!reiserfs05:14
ubotureiserfs is a journalling file system, in benchmarks it outperforms many others on I/O operations, but they take notoriously long to mount.05:14
LjLyou certainly won't see opera as the default KDE and/or Kubuntu browser anytime soon if that's what you mean :D05:14
ForgeAusLjL nothing but Opera was in context with the konversation :)05:14
Schuenemann!ext305:14
ubotuext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org05:14
ForgeAusLjL nah Konqueror is kewl05:14
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Schuenemannisn't reiserfs supposed to be superior?05:14
ForgeAusbetween it and FireFox I don't really need another browser05:14
LjLcool or not cool, i definitely don't think anyone is going to put a proprietary browser as default in a distro such as Kubuntu, not to mention KDE itself05:14
ForgeAusthough I must say Lynx is kinda fun to toy with :)05:15
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llutzSchuenemann: it always depends on your usage05:15
ForgeAusfor nostalgia sake only of course05:15
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LjLschuenemann: depends from the point of view i guess. ext3 is known to be quite reliable05:15
Schuenemannwhich means I should stay with ext3?05:15
LjL*shrug*05:15
llutzSchuenemann: why would you like to change to reiserfs?05:16
ForgeAusLjL I wouldn't want to see Opera as that anyway05:16
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Schuenemannllutz: because I THOUGHT is was better05:16
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llutzSchuenemann: define "better" ;)05:16
ForgeAuswhats good about kde 4?05:16
icheynehaven't opensuse just dumped reiserfs?05:16
LjLforgeaus: right now, nothing much :)05:16
Schuenemannsafer, faster....05:16
LjLicheyne: they still support it but use ext3 by default05:16
ForgeAusLjL whats planned for it thats good then?05:17
LjLschuenemann: faster, probably, at least for small files.05:17
llutzSchuenemann: safer? why? faster.. in some purposes maybe05:17
icheyneok05:17
llutzif you like small files, you nee XFS05:17
llutzneed05:17
Schuenemannmore important is if the OS like small files, I believe05:17
LjLschuenemann: safer, i doubt it. people argue a lot about its safety, but snice there's many people saying it might be /less/ safe than ext, i definitely wouldn't go and say it's safer05:17
Schuenemannok05:18
Schuenemannwhich takes more hd space?05:18
LjLreiser i thinks, uses more metadata05:18
LjLxfs probably takes even more05:18
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LjLbut just type their names in google, i'm quite confident you'll find plenty of such comparisons05:18
shenmuewill ubuntu support reiserfs4?05:18
ForgeAusext3 is kewl05:18
llutzin the age of hdds in TB-size, who cares about overhead? ;)05:18
LjLshenmue: it's not even in the kernel...05:19
ForgeAusshenmue it can not sure if it does05:19
icheynethis email slags off reiserfs pretty comprehensively - http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2006-09/msg00542.html05:19
icheyneand that was before the murder enquiry05:19
Schuenemannwhat does kewl mean?05:19
ForgeAusworst case, you can plug in mounting tools05:19
LjLcool, i s'pose05:19
ForgeAuslol its aplay on cool yeah05:19
llutzwhat makes a filesystem "cool"?05:19
ForgeAussorry, just Forgespeak05:19
LjLllutz: well, with ext3 my HD reaches and surpasses 50C... perhaps it's that05:20
Schuenemannllutz: if a filesystem does not suck, then it's cool05:20
ForgeAusllutz.. well thanx for dispelling the magic of filesystems on me :( lol!05:20
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shenmueLjL: will it be in the kernel one day?05:20
llutzSchuenemann: no, then it just works :)05:20
ironfroggy_LTis there anything smaller than mini-USB?05:20
Schuenemannheh05:20
LjLshenmue: do i look like a magic sphere? :P05:20
LjLi guess not anyway, if i have to guess05:20
ForgeAusironfroggy?05:20
jerpkewl is net-speak for cool which means the matter carries a measure of titilation05:21
shenmueLjL: :)05:21
ironfroggy_LTForgeAus: i just got a new phone and there is a port on the bottom that looks exactly like a mini-USB port, but smaller.05:21
ForgeAusyou mean for a linux image?05:21
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ironfroggy_LTwhat about a linux image?05:21
ForgeAussmaller? not sure.... the other one I was thinking of is firewire but thats bigger than mini-USB05:22
ironfroggy_LTo thought you meant me05:22
ForgeAusI thought you were talkinga bout flashdrives05:22
ironfroggy_LThow does a firewall have a physical size to be bigger than anything?05:22
ForgeAusI got VMware in my headspace still05:22
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ForgeAusnot firewall firewire05:23
ForgeAusits a type of connection05:23
ironfroggy_LTo ok05:23
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SchuenemannLjL: what does that fsck do?05:23
ForgeAusfor certain devices05:23
sivajihi05:23
ForgeAusits like an alternative to USB05:23
LjLschuenemann: checks and/or repairs a filesystem. anyway, i suggest you wait before typing that command05:23
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LjLwhen i'm back home, in an hour or so, i'll be able to confirm whether it's the right command to use for that problem05:24
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Schuenemannok05:24
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SchuenemannI had hardware problems and some times GRUB printed an error05:24
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KwipperI have a question. I am looking at Adept Manager and it says I have firefox installed. Except one thing.. I don't see any shortcut to the browser anywhere.05:24
sivajithis new user for linux ple tell me how to download a package05:24
LjL!software05:25
ubotuA general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages and !Equivalents05:25
jerpkwipper, you've got to add the menu entry05:25
SchuenemannKwipper: not in K > Internet ?05:25
KwipperNope05:25
KwipperI do not see it there.05:25
circman05:25
circkonqueror is real annoying with its constant cookie popup warnings05:25
DaSkreechTurn off cokkie management05:26
jerpright click on the K symbol on the deskbar and find edit menus05:26
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jerpopen Internet and add an enty for Firefox05:26
KwipperI don't see an "edit menus" option05:26
Schuenemanncirc: I liked Fx because of the extensions05:26
KwipperAhh I found it05:26
KwipperThe edit menu thing05:27
ForgeAusFx?05:27
Schuenemannfx = firefox05:27
ForgeAusahh IC05:27
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ForgeAuslol is nautilus any good?05:27
Schuenemannnautilus is for gnome, no?05:27
ForgeAusyeah05:27
KwipperI have the menu editor up05:27
DaSkreech!schedule05:27
KwipperNow what?05:27
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Feisty Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule05:27
jerpfile / add05:28
circnautilus refreshes slower imo05:28
SchuenemannKwipper: you could try typing whereis firefox, in konsole05:28
circbut atleast it refreshes directories, which i cant figure out how to do with kde05:28
jerpafter having highlighted Internet ofcourse cause that's where the entry goes05:28
KwipperWhere is Konsole?05:28
ForgeAuscirc theres an icon to reload05:28
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ForgeAus(its called reload insted of refresh)05:29
ForgeAuskonsole is probably under system05:29
circya05:29
circbut is there a way to autoreload after deleting something in a dir?05:29
Schuenemannthere is an icon to konsole close to K05:29
KwipperI got /usr/lib/firefox05:29
ForgeAusor you could set up a terminal menu :)05:29
Schuenemannso firefox is there05:30
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Schuenemannright-click desktop > create new > link to application05:30
Kwipperk05:31
DaSkreechKwipper: press Alt+Space and type konsole05:31
KwipperI alreayd did that05:31
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KwipperI got /usr/lib/firefox05:31
Kwipperin konsole05:31
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KwipperAny ideas?05:33
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Schuenemanndid you try what I said?05:33
jerphint .............. /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin05:33
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KwipperSch: Yes05:34
KwipperI am in the edit menu05:34
KwipperWhat do I do next?05:34
TimmmmDamn linux sucks sometimes. I was trying to install this: http://www.ribbonsoft.com/vec2web_downloads.html ... Try doing that without knowing tons of C++/shell-foo. Eventually resorted to downloading the windows binary and running it with wine! Grrr.05:34
Schuenemannedit?05:34
SchuenemannI said this: right-click desktop > create new > link to application05:34
Schuenemann:p05:34
vadoSalut05:35
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KwipperSch: Okay. I got the link to application thing open05:36
KwipperSch: Now what?05:36
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ShnaCHayI have Kubuntu linux installed and I want to be able to mount my Windows partition so as to copy a file from it.05:37
jerphere's something to enter......... /usr/bin/firefox05:38
SchuenemannKwipper: click application, command05:38
Schuenemannand enter that thing jerp said05:38
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KwipperKDEInit could not launch "/usr/bin/firefox"05:39
KwipperThat is what I get when I click on the icon05:40
Schuenemannyou said it was /usr/lib/firefox I believe05:40
jerpkwipper, the entry in my menu editor says ... firefox %u05:40
Dr_williswhich firefox    gives me -->  /usr/bin/firefox05:41
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Dr_willis!ntfs05:41
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse05:41
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Dr_willisDefacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume05:41
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KwipperGeeez. Don't these applications have some executable extention that lets them know they are executables?05:41
ShnaCHayhow do I mount my Windows NTFS drives in Kubuntu ?05:41
KwipperLike firefox.exe or something?05:41
DaSkreech!mount05:41
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter05:41
KwipperIt would make the executables much easier to find.05:41
jerphey, it's Linux05:41
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Dr_willisShnaCHay,  i though mine showed up in my 'media:'  location.. enter 'media:' in konqueror and see05:42
Dr_willisKwipper,  your making statements.. and you dont know the fundamentals...05:42
Dr_willisif the executable bit is set.. its an executable file.. no need for a .exe at all05:42
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Dr_willismy firefox icon - has for its 'executable' the command -->   firefox %u05:43
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ShnaCHayDr_willis: The windows drives show in 'media' by default?05:44
Dr_willisShnaCHay,  theres /media/ and then theres  media:/05:44
Dr_willisthere cn be some issues with using 'media:/05:44
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Dr_willisdepending on the programs you are using. which is why the 'remote places' icon i have goes to media/05:45
Dr_willisoops /media05:45
Dr_willisis the 'system menu' in the panels by default? i forget if i added it there or not.05:45
KwipperNevermind05:46
KwipperI think I found the problem.05:46
jerpthere is system settings in the menu05:46
ShnaCHayDr_willis: What, exactly, do I have to download to enable NTFS support?05:46
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Kwipperthe package mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb package was installed... which I think was the language package and not the actual browser.05:47
Dr_willisShnaCHay,  to read a ntfs drive - you shoudl be able to just mount the thing.. OR it should be showing up allready in ' media:05:47
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KwipperSo I installed the mozilla-firefox package and it now shows up.05:47
Dr_willismedia:\  is showing my windows drives05:47
ForgeAushas KDE got an answer to The GIMP?05:47
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jerpkwipper, so you're a happy camper05:47
ForgeAusor is it part of Koffice?05:47
ShnaCHaylet me have a look05:47
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KwipperYep05:48
KwipperI am05:48
KwipperThanks05:48
jerpno problem, I'm a newb and I'm scratchy05:49
DaSkreechWhat dod I do if a Live CD kernel panics?05:49
cloakableDaSkreech: Reboot :P05:49
DaSkreechI mean kernel panics on startup05:49
jerpgo into grub and find a different kernel to boot?05:50
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jerpsee if there's a kernel that could be updated?05:51
DaSkreechThe Live CD ships with multiple kernels?05:51
DaSkreechCool :)05:51
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parigigihi to all06:00
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_kuja_hello06:00
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parigigiIs there anyone who has a couple of minutes?06:01
_kuja_I do06:01
parigigithanks. I have a problem. I tried to post my question on several forums, but I didn't have an answer...06:02
_kuja_Did you try ubuntuforums? Positively massive forum ...06:02
_kuja_Anyhow, out with the question :D06:03
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parigigiI am a kubuntu 6.10 user and when I try to start gnome applications, like Dia or Gnometris a gray window appears, but the program starts after 2-3 minutes...06:04
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_kuja_Ouch, I've not had any problems like that....06:04
_kuja_I'll see if I can reproduce it06:05
circi try to avoid gtk apps in kde06:05
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parigigiI don't think that the problem is related to an incorrect installation of gtk+ because Gimp works correctly and I installed the programs with synaptic, and I hope that it resolved the depedencies automatically06:05
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rizwaanLibrary files for "kcm_kicker.la" not found in paths.06:07
rizwaanwhich deb has "kcm_kicker.la"06:08
_kuja_what was the name of the package to get gnometris, parigigi?06:08
parigigijust a second...06:08
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karmikazeanyone here using a vaio sz??06:09
parigigithe package is gnome-games06:09
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_kuja_rizwaan, do you have the kde-devel package installed?06:09
rizwaan1 sec06:09
parigigibut I doesn't matter if a game doesn't work... my problem is that I need Dia06:09
_kuja_or at least kdebase-dev ....06:10
rizwaanno06:10
rizwaani messed up my kicker files.. by installing kbfx old .deb06:10
_kuja_That's likely the problem, seeing as it sounds like you're trying to compile something06:10
_kuja_uninstall the kbfx deb, do an apt-get --reinstall install kdebase06:11
_kuja_I guess06:11
rizwaani'll try06:11
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crubeIs there a way to assign shortcut keys to change the desktop by numer. So that i could have Shift + 1/2/3/4 to change the desktop to dekstop number 1/2/3/4?06:11
crubeall I found was desktop up/down options06:12
_kuja_parigigi, I'll do it then instead06:12
llutzcrube: alt-1..406:12
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circyes06:13
mariankano06:13
crubeNo that doesn't do anything but change from a konversation tab to another, and it does nothing on the desktop or anywhere else.06:13
circcontrol center -> regional access -> keyboard shortcuts06:13
circthen pick shortcut schemes06:14
circand look for switch to desktop #06:14
_kuja_parigigi, dia came right up for me, no problem at all.06:14
crubecirc ok found it now thanks. I didn't look at the Shortcut sequences tab at all. Thanks06:14
_kuja_parigigi, try running it from konsole and see if it gives you any error messages06:14
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parigigiI have an error message: but it' s the same I have when I start a kde application, and those work perfectly06:16
parigigianyhow:06:17
parigigistranger@alvaro:~$ dia &06:17
parigigi[1]  577906:17
parigigistranger@alvaro:~$ X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16606:17
parigigi  Major opcode:  14406:17
parigigi  Minor opcode:  306:17
parigigi  Resource id:  0x006:17
parigigiFailed to open device06:17
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parigigiX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16606:17
parigigi  Major opcode:  14406:17
parigigi  Minor opcode:  306:17
parigigi  Resource id:  0x006:17
parigigiFailed to open device06:17
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eilker!lamp06:17
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)06:17
rizwaanwell, it was kicker kickoff which deleted the kcm_kicker.la after removal06:19
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Hawkwind!bad device | parigigi06:20
ubotuparigigi: If you are receiving an error similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 then please visit this page: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.006:20
_kuja_rizwaan: try sudo apt-get --reinstall install kcontrol06:20
rizwaanok06:21
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rizwaankuja, thanks, fixed..06:22
rizwaani reinstalled kcontrol and kicker06:22
_kuja_You're welcome06:22
_kuja_kcm_kicker.la is provided by kcontrol ....... to figure out what package a file is a part of do this: dpkg -S filename (optionally you can include the entire path of the filename)06:23
parigigiubotu: I've already tried to comment out those sections, but server X doesn't start...06:23
_kuja_(or only a portion of the filename)06:23
_kuja_after commenting out those three sections, there are 3 more lines you have to comment out06:23
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SchuenemannI get those errors too06:23
rizwaanwow, thanks for dpkg -S06:23
Imrahilanyone know what happened to the katapult website at thekatapult.net? it should have moved from thekatapult.org.uk06:24
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hudsyhow to install msn in kubuntu???????06:24
Schuenemannhttp://amsn.sourceforge.net is an option06:24
_kuja_apt-get install amsn?06:24
rizwaanapt-get install amsn06:24
rizwaanyes06:24
hudsyi cant do it06:24
Imrahilkmess06:24
rizwaansudo apt-get install amsn06:25
_kuja_Kopete works well too06:25
hudsyi cant do it06:25
Schuenemannkopete sucks :)06:25
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Realistic_Dragongaim is also nice06:25
hudsyit says theres no amsn06:25
hudsyok06:25
hudsythenks06:25
Realistic_Dragongaim and kopete share the same IM libraries i think06:25
Imrahilhudsy: try also, sudo apt-get install kmess06:25
Schuenemannyou need to add repositories06:25
ForgeAuskopete is good but the yahoo in it needs to have multiple yahoo idents! lol06:25
_kuja_!universe | hudsy06:25
ubotuhudsy: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu06:25
_kuja_amsn is in universe06:25
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Schuenemannsince I stopped using ICQ, I use amsn now06:26
rizwaankuja i can't remove kdegames..06:26
rizwaanit is also removing whole kde06:26
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_kuja_perhaps you installed kdegames with aptitude, and when you did it pulled in kde?06:26
ForgeAusuniverse?06:26
rizwaani did "apt-get install kde"06:27
rizwaannow i want to remove noatun and kdegames06:27
_kuja_kdegames is just a metapackage anyway, removing it won't remove anything06:27
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_kuja_if you really want to remove it, do dpkg -r kdegames, but keep in mind it won't free up any space, or unclutter your menus either.06:28
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summerizcrazyHello everyone! Is there a place where I can check whether my hardware is supported "from the box" by kubuntu 6.10 ?06:28
rizwaanoh..06:28
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_kuja_summerizcrazy, there might be, but if so I don't know where. What hardware do you have?06:29
jacksterWhy would it be that I can burn CDs using my Liteon CD/DVD RW drive, but I can't read them?06:29
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_kuja_jackster, odd, do other computers read t he disks without problem?06:29
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pichalsihi06:29
rizwaankuja, please try "dpkg -r --simulate kdegames kde-amusements"06:29
jackster_kuja_: I'll go check that now06:30
SchuenemannHawkwind: how can I ensure what to comment?06:30
rizwaani can't remove them..06:30
pichalsican someone help me how to upgrade all packages except glib?06:30
_kuja_But I don't want to remove kdegames ...06:30
pichalsior generally dont upgrade one of the packages?06:30
rizwaanobserve the "--simulate"06:30
_kuja_oh, I get it06:30
Schuenemannsummerizcrazy: why don't you use the livecd to check?06:30
jackster_kuja_: it reads fine in my other DVD drive on the same bozx06:30
summerizcrazya HP Pavilion dv5140eu laptop - AND Turion 64, ATI XPRESS 200, boradcom wifi06:30
jacksterit burns fine using one drive, but it doesnt read in that drive, but it reads fine in the other drive06:31
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_kuja_jackster: weird, it's probably a problem with the drive.06:31
jackster(no CDs or DVDs seem to be readable on the burner, but it works fine in Windows)06:31
Sannesummerizcrazy: I'll get you a few links I used when I built my system this summer, hold on.06:31
summerizcrazyI was told that there are some issues regarding the broadcom support and the openGL for this card06:31
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_kuja_I've got 3 or 4 different burners, plus 2 or 3 different readers, and each one behaves a bit different, some will read some disks and some won't. It's really weird when a drive can't read the disk it itself burned though.06:31
Sannesummerizcrazy: here are three for a start: http://www.linux-drivers.org/ http://www.leenooks.com/ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport06:31
_kuja_summeriscrazy: wifi is crazy stuff, take a look at:06:32
_kuja_!wifi06:32
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:32
_kuja_ATI cards are notoriously horrible when it comes to linux support06:32
summerizcrazyThank You very much :) !06:32
Realistic_Dragonthe ATI card in my powerbook wasnt too bad _kuja_... surprised me, especially on a PPC machine :P06:33
_kuja_You would have been much better off with an nvidia card, or maybe even an intel06:33
summerizcrazyyes i was unable to get it running with kubuntu 6.06 .. the opengl i mean06:33
_kuja_Realistic_Dragon, some cards are better supported than others, which makes ATIs situation even more of a mess.06:33
Realistic_Dragonthats definatly true06:33
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Realistic_Dragoni got lucky and the OSS drivers work or id be out of luck06:34
Realistic_Dragonshame as i want a new macbook but those have newer ATI cards in and im not sure if itll work :(06:34
_kuja_Realistic_Dragon: I'd check with some other guinnea ... erm, person, before spending your money.06:34
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Realistic_Dragonheh06:35
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Realistic_Dragonim no fan of OS X at all, it wasnt a good linux replacement when i got my powerbook and in the meantime its been left well behind on the usability front :/06:35
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Realistic_Dragonso im not buying one until i check all the hardware out :)06:35
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_kuja_I wish I had the money to get myself a lappy....... but alas, I've dumped all my money into this desktop :D06:36
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Realistic_Dragonmost laptops are a pain in the backside06:36
Realistic_Dragonright now the only ones id consider are a new macbook pro on the high end or a cheap $600 hp on the low end06:37
lm_hey can anyone tell me why the update funkction for firefox is greyed out in ubuntu/kubuntu?06:37
_kuja_I've guaged that much. The biggest thing I'm worried about would most definitely be wireless. Wireless driver problems seem to be abound.06:37
Realistic_Dragonthose HPs are really solidly built, only issue is the 124*768 resolution06:37
lm_the bugfix for the password f***up is out, and the update manager doesnt have it06:37
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Realistic_Dragon_kuja_: broadcom cards now arent quite as sucky as they used to be, theres a howto on my website :o works with wpa and suspends properly too06:38
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Realistic_Dragonboth the HPs and the macs use broadcom chipsets06:38
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_kuja_Oh well, doesn't much matter, I'm financed to my limit and I've no money to get myself a laptop with :(06:38
mjugendrathallo06:38
_kuja_hello06:38
mjugendratdeutsch ?06:39
Dr_willislm_,  i would guess -  that you should use the apt-get/apt/adept system to update firefox. since its a system wide installed program. not on a per user basis06:39
_kuja_!de06:39
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de06:39
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lm_Dr_willis: i just ran it and as far as i know my system is completely updated06:39
mjugendratdanke06:39
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lm_Dr_willis: how far behind are the repositories?06:40
lm_in terms of update?06:40
doudoohello all06:40
_kuja_hello06:40
doudooneed some help please06:40
doudooi wanted ton install gpar2 yesterday...06:41
Dr_willislm_,  if theres not some security related update..  the packages dont normally get updates.06:41
doudooi tryed to do it with adept06:41
_kuja_The repos are frozen as of october, nothing but the occasional security fix will trickle in, maybe some updates depending on what the updates are.06:41
parigigi_kuja_ : I found the other three lines :-) Now I restart the machine and try...06:42
Realistic_Dragonunless you have backports enabled of course06:42
mauro___kuja_: do you know why theya re frozen ?06:42
doudoobut now everey update crash..06:42
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Dr_willisthey are frozen because thats how ubuntu works. ;)06:42
_kuja_No major updates are coming in, this is pretty much how edgy is going to be06:42
Realistic_Dragonmauro__: because 6.10 is now a release version06:42
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mauro__oh06:42
Realistic_Dragon(k)ubuntu releases a stable version then starts on the new version :)06:42
lm_kuja: Dr_willis: the firefox update is kinda big... something about the password manager in both IE and firefox giving away your password with a simpel html command or something06:42
mauro__hold on06:42
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soulriderthats better :P06:42
Realistic_Dragonsoulrider: you can turn on the backports repo if you want new stuff, but im not sure of the criteria for things being added to backports06:43
soulriderlm_: whats why i use Opera :P06:43
soulriderRealistic_Dragon: i think its enabled already06:43
WilltreWhat's the KDE version of gedit?  I'm switching from Ubuntu to Kubuntu (Edgy) and I need to edit my xorg.conf for it to boot up properly and change my driver to vesa.06:43
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lm_Dr_willis: well anyway.... any idea on how i can install another copy of firefox then?06:43
soulriderWilltre: Kate06:43
Dr_willislm_,  if youa re that paranoid about it - you could go download/use the latest firefox  by isntalling it to your users home dir06:43
lm_k06:43
Dr_willislm_,  or using that klick stuff.06:44
Willtresoulrider: Thanks, see you on Kubuntu : ).06:44
lm_*ok06:44
Dr_willisor autopackage, or other thangs..06:44
soulrider:)06:44
_kuja_ubuntu development process = sync with debian, updates and development work go on for about 3-4 months, freeze updates, then work on fixing bugs, or something like that.06:44
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soulrider_kuja_: interesting....06:44
_kuja_perhaps I should have said 3-5 months06:44
lm__kuja_: so when will the repos get an update...when the next ubuntu gets out?06:44
soulriderdoes debian come with a graphic enviroment already installed?06:44
SanneWilltre: aside from Kate there's also Kwrite, a simpler text editor.06:44
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_kuja_soulrider_: debian gives you a text environment, though you can choose a gui if you want to in the installer06:45
soulrider_kuja_: ahh allright06:45
soulriderid like to try debian someday06:45
soulridertried to get gentoo up and running... but failed06:46
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soulriderwell, my network card refused to work, so its like i failed06:46
_kuja_lm_: so yes, feisty is getting all the updates now, there won't really be any more updates for edgy, however, feisty is in development/alpha/unstable phase.06:46
akruscan I get some wine support here? :)06:46
parigigimmh... the error disappeared, but the problem remains06:47
soulriderfeisty is comming in march right ?06:47
soulrider!schedule06:47
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Feisty Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule06:47
parigigi:-(06:47
_kuja_yup06:47
akrusFeisty <306:47
akrusworks okay :)06:47
soulriderdamn, i dont know why06:47
soulriderafter a while of being online06:47
akruswith newest packages :)06:47
soulridersome of my apps simply acts as if i were offline06:47
akrusDelphi 7 works under Wine lol06:47
soulriderits really annoying06:47
_kuja_parigigi, I've no idea what the problem could be ... I coudln't reproduce it myself or I'd have a better shot at helping you.06:47
soulrideri have to reconnect06:47
_kuja_akrus: agreed, they haven't done anything to break it yet ...06:48
lm_o btw... can anyone here tell me how to update my java? ife kinda tried everyway, but my java --version tells me always that i have version 1.4.206:48
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_kuja_lm_ what version of java do you want?06:48
_kuja_perhaps sun java 1.5 or 1.6?06:48
lm_1.5.0 at least06:48
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akrusso well06:48
soulriderwhats a herd cd ?06:48
akrusis it possible to set Virtual Wine Desktop only for one application?06:49
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_kuja_You can get 1.5 from the repos, it's in multiverse as the sun-java5-jre/jdk packages.06:49
_kuja_1.6 can be downloaded from the sun website.06:49
lm__kuja_: ok ill try it thanks :)06:49
soulrider1,6 is beta i believe06:49
_kuja_no06:49
_kuja_It's not.06:49
soulrider:O06:49
soulriderfinal ?06:49
_kuja_Yeah06:50
akrusyep06:50
_kuja_released a week or two ago.06:50
akrusit's 6.006:50
akrusnot 1.6 :)06:50
soulriderohh06:50
soulriderakrus: its the same actually06:50
akrusit is06:50
akrusbut 6.0 is not 1.6 :)06:50
soulrideryes :P06:50
_kuja_kuja@terra:~$ java -version06:50
_kuja_java version "1.6.0"06:50
_kuja_Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-b105)06:50
_kuja_Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 1.6.0-b105, mixed mode)06:50
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soulriderthey have to update it int he repos....06:51
akrusyes, but for Windows it's 6.0 xD06:51
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soulriderakrus: its the same06:51
_kuja_It's the same thing!06:51
soulriderthey give it both names06:51
akrus>_<06:51
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_kuja_It's kinda like this, java 1.0 was java 1 platform, java 1.2 1.3 and 1.4 were the java 2 platform, java 1.5 is the java 5 platform, java 1.6 is the java 6 platform. It makes no sense, I know. I have no idea why they did it.06:52
WilltreAlright, I can't Kate since it can't connect to X-Server, and that's the reason why I'm trying to edit my xorg.conf!  You see, to launch the desktop environment I need to change from ati to vesa drivers in my xorg.conf.  Are there any other commandline text editing tools that might not call on XServer?06:52
WilltreGedit didn't which is why I was able to run ubuntu.06:53
_kuja_villtre: nano, vim06:53
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Willtre_kuja_: Alright, I'll try nano and vim thanks : ).  I'm not at all expierienced with KDE so hopefully I'm not to much of a bother.06:53
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mirshafiei want to remove a LD_LIBRARY_PATH to a program that doesn't work. how can i do that?06:55
_yyoman_how do I turn the away message off in Konversation?06:56
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_kuja_mirshafie, hmm06:58
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_kuja_Not sure06:58
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Sannemirshafie: depends on how it is set. If it is set in a start script, you could change it there.06:58
_kuja_That's probably the best way ...06:58
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mirshafieSanne, _kuja_: ok. Sorry if it's a stupid question, but where would it be located if it's a start script?07:00
_kuja_/usr/bin/programname is usually a symlink to it07:00
_kuja_or /usr/local/bin/programname07:00
Sannemirshafie: depends on the program, you can look in the program folder if it is installed manually, or in /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin07:00
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Sannemirshafie: what program is it?07:01
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mirshafiewell i know where it's installed - my home folder (yes, i put the whole thing there).07:01
_kuja_Hmm, the programs name, or the programs name.sh, look for a file like that07:01
mirshafieso, then what, i need to remove it all or just some link?07:01
Sannemirshafie: how are you supposed to start it?07:02
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parigigi_kuja_ : thanks a lot anyhow... I'll try to ask someone else. Have a good day07:02
_kuja_You need to edit a line in the startup script, if there is one, else, it's probably not a library path problem, or maybe it is and you need to create a startup script that sets the ld_library_path07:02
_kuja_You too parigigi07:02
parigigi\quit07:02
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mirshafieSanne: it's a script called Julius in ~/.julius/bin/Julius07:03
mirshafiebut it doesn't work07:03
Sannemirshafie: can you open it in a text editor?07:03
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mirshafieSanne: no, it's a binary07:04
Sannemirshafie: ok, you have two options07:04
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_kuja_Then, if it truely is a library path problem, you might need to create a startup script for it07:04
_kuja_One that sets the ld_library_path before launching the real binary07:04
_kuja_As for the second option, ask Sanne07:04
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Sannemirshafie: quick one: set the library path in a terminal and start Julius fron there afterwards, or two: as _kuja_  said :)07:05
Cuddles_in_KYhelp. i just had a major system crash, and after rebooting, everything in my home directory that wasn't hidden is -gone-. any way to recover it?07:05
mirshafie_kuja_: well, i'm not sure i want to run it at all. the reason i want to change the library path is because X says it's faulty whenever i login to kde07:05
Sanne_kuja_: nice teamwork ;)07:05
_kuja_:D07:05
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_kuja_Cuddles_in_KY, take a look in /lost+found and hope for the best07:06
Cuddles_in_KYkuja, did that. no joy07:06
Cuddles_in_KYall . files are still there, but everything else is gone07:06
_kuja_Sounds like something majorly ugly happened ...I hope you had backups07:07
Cuddles_in_KYsome, but not all... any way to recover the missing files/07:07
_kuja_If it's an ext2/3 partition, try running e2fsck07:07
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_kuja_As for this crash, any idea what happened?07:08
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mirshafieSanne, _kuja_: i have no idea how to set library paths :) and all i want is to get rid of the X warning dialog, so it doesn't matter to me if i can actually start Julius afterwards07:08
_kuja_export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/path/to/libraries07:09
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Sannemirshafie: I think you lost us a bit here... what exact warning do you get?07:09
lm_allright..... i just installed java 1.5.10 into /usr/java .... but when i run java --version it STILL tells me that i run 1.4.2... do i hyave to make a link or something, or what am i doing wrong?07:09
lm_*have07:10
_kuja_lm_07:10
_kuja_the easiest way to install 1.5 would have been to install it using ubuntu's repositories, but seeing as you've already downloaded/installed it, I'll tell you what to do07:10
Dr_willisgotta love doing things the hard way. :)07:10
_kuja_do you only need the runtime environment, or do you need access to the JDK stuff too(javac,, appletviewer, etc)07:11
lm_the best wy to learn about this goddamn linux :D07:11
lm_*way07:11
Dr_willis!java07:11
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository07:11
Sannelm_: aside tip: if you installed manually, it would have been better into /usr/local/java, because those folders aren't geverned by the package manager.07:11
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_kuja_** or /usr/lib/jvm07:11
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_kuja_which is where all you other jvm's are installed07:11
lm__kuja_: i need it to run frostwire... ive read on the linuxquestions forums, that it needs higher java version than i have07:12
_kuja_also where sun-java5-jre would have installed to07:12
_kuja_lm_07:12
_kuja_one sec, I'm going to explain it to you07:12
Sanne_kuja_: I disagree, /usr/lib is package manager stuff. I like to keep those things seperate.07:12
mirshafieSanne: after login with kdm, i get one of those special X warnings that usually just come up when something is seriously wrong. :D you might have seen them, they've got an ugly font and rounded buttons for example (they're not part of kde as for what i understand). that message tells me the LD_LIBRARY_PATH for some binary in ~/.julius does not work. i remember the script i used to install julius said something about adding a library07:12
mirshafiepath07:12
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_kuja_Bah, I like keeping things all in one place, besides, with java, to remove all you have to do is remove one folder, not so bad07:12
_kuja_if it installed it like a mess like most things do, then I'd agree with you07:13
Sannemirshafie: I don't know those messages. What you tell me makes me think that Julius attempts to get started when you start KDE? If so, maybe you can disable it somehow?07:13
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Sanne_kuja_: It's a matter of preference, I think. As long as you remember what you did to your system manually in times of upgrades and the like, all is well :)07:14
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mirshafieSanne: yea, seems like it (and odd to, because it's just supposed to be a normal app). btw, this kind of messages come up before KDE has started to load. i've got a similar one once before when i butchered my home folder :)07:14
_kuja_sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/java/bin/java java /usr/bin/java 1007:15
_kuja_sudo update-alternatives --set java /usr/java/bin/java07:15
_kuja_lm_07:15
_kuja_assuming the path to the java binary is /usr/java/bin/java07:15
mjugendrathi07:15
lm_alllll riiight ill try them.. thanks _kuja_07:15
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mjugendrati such the code for make a ander display07:16
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mjugendrat...07:16
mirshafiewell, i'll try some of the things you mentioned. thanks, _kuja_ and Sanne07:17
Sannemirshafie: the underlying reason I suspect is, that Julius needs to know about the path it is in for it's libraries. So if you ever get to find out how it is started, you can try to add: 'export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/.julius or maybe /home/.julius/lib or wherever the libs are.07:17
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No1VikingI want to update BIOS in my computer and need to make a startdisk for it. How do I do that?07:17
_kuja_Sanne: why would the home folder be hidden?07:17
Sanne_kuja_: because mirshafie said so somewhere above ;)07:18
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_kuja_ah07:18
xenolDaSkreech yo07:18
Sanne_kuja_: but it seems that's a typo, eh? Didn't think, thanks.07:18
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xenol!OSS07:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about OSS - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:19
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mirshafieSanne: allright, sounds promising. i'll try that. thanks :)07:19
Willtrealright I'm on the Kubuntu Live CD07:19
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Sannemirshafie: you're welcome :)07:19
Willtrehad to killall kdm and then kdm to get on  But now, my installer is stuck at 4% on "running gnome32_power_manager"07:19
_kuja_strange07:19
_kuja_What exactly was the problem you were having, in the broader sense, willtre?07:20
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lm_hey _kuja_ ... it tells me "No such directory"07:20
lm_... im kinda lost right now07:20
_kuja_lm_, well, one second07:21
Willtre_kuja_: Well, atfirst the CD wouldn't run at all and just crash, But then all I had to do to get to my kde desktop was change to vesa drivers and reboot.  But now my Kubuntu installer isn't moving at all and it's at 4% running gnome power manager07:21
lm_cause the directory exist07:21
WilltreI'm thinking I'll just reboot the liveCD and restart the installer07:21
_kuja_lm_07:21
_kuja_!pastebin | lm_07:21
ubotulm_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)07:21
_kuja_do this: ls -lR /usr/java07:21
WilltreRestarting live CD now07:22
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karmikaze!wpa07:24
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:24
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yelonek!pl07:24
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl07:24
fribuntuHi all!07:25
karmikazehi you!07:25
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fribuntuI had a strange message from fsck today during bootup. "fsck died with exit status 1". According to the documentation this means it found errors but corrected them. Is there any way to find out exactly which errors it found? Is there a logfile for fsck somewhere? I can't find it uder /var/log ...07:26
karmikazehrm07:26
karmikazelocate fsck07:26
karmikazelocate fsck | grep log07:26
karmikazemaybe that will turn something up07:26
_kuja_fribuntu, oddly enough, I get that message a lot07:26
lm__kuja_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38132/07:27
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_kuja_ever since my computer got shut off in a sudden power outage07:27
fribuntu_kuja_: I see it as a bad sign ... maybe my disk is about to die?07:27
fribuntukarmikaze: Found it. Thanks! (should have known that myself :)07:27
karmikazehrmm was WPA supported in dapper??07:27
karmikaze:)07:27
karmikazenp07:27
_kuja_fribuntu, unless something out of the ordinary happened to cause it, I woudln't dismiss the possibility, what fs are you using?07:27
lm_jesus.... even when i do my "java --versione" it now tells me that "No such file or directory"...07:27
fribuntu_kuja_: ext307:27
_kuja_hod old is your disk, and what brand is it?07:28
fribuntu_kuja_: about a year and it is a maxtor.07:28
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mjugendratbye07:28
_kuja_Well, I certainly wouldn't dismiss the possibility of it dying, back up your data, otherwise you may find yourself very, very disappointed and without your data within about a year.07:29
fribuntu_kuja_: I calculate a hdd lifetime of three years. I am not on 24/7.07:29
_kuja_A lot of the new maxtor drives are dying.07:29
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fribuntu_kuja_: Damn. I switched from Seagate over to Maxtor because I had frequent problems with Seagate before.07:29
doudoosomebody can help me with a wrong install of gpar2 ???07:29
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_kuja_My current seagates seem to be doing well ..... barracuda 250gb, I've got two of them.07:30
fribuntu_kuja_: They just don't build quality drives any more. Better to change them routinely once a year now.07:30
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fribuntudoudoo: Can you elaborate on the nature of that "wrong install"?07:30
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doudoooki i'm french but i'll try too07:31
lm__kuja_: uploaded the file...what now?07:31
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fribuntu_kuja_: Well, maybe it is just me always getting the faulty drives of any brand. So you can have good experiences :)07:31
doudooso yesterday i wanted to install gpar207:31
_kuja_Iv'e not heard of many problems with WD drives, and seagates have a decent track record l ately. Maxtor h as been bought out by Seagate07:31
doudoobut the install failed07:31
DaSkreechxenol: Yup?07:31
doudooand today i wanted to install the new beryl-svn07:31
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doudoobut when i type my cmd07:32
xenolDaSkreech i pm u got a discussion for a long time :/07:32
_kuja_lm_ I'm looking at it now07:32
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doudooit return that he couldnt because of a probleme with gpar207:32
lm__kuja_: i really appreciate it :)07:32
DaSkreechxenol: I was at lunch :007:32
DaSkreechxenol: What discussion?07:32
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doudoofribuntu ??? still there?07:33
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fribuntudoudoo: So you got an error message "I cant do this because of a problem with gpar2. Good bye"?07:33
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doudoono07:33
_kuja_lm_: sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/java java /usr/java/jre1.5.0_10/bin/java java 1007:33
doudoobut it's pretty hard for me to translate07:34
fribuntudoudoo: Or was there any information that might actually help to find the cause of the error?07:34
doudooa technical message error07:34
fribuntudoudoo: What is your native language?07:34
doudoolet me check some vocabulary ^^07:34
doudoofrench07:34
_kuja_lm_ sudo update-alternatives --set /usr/java/jre1.5.0_10/bin/java07:34
fribuntudoudoo: So go to the french forums then?07:34
doudoonobody can help me07:34
doudoo...07:34
_kuja_What was your problem again .... granted, I don't know an ounce of french.07:35
fribuntudoudoo: Hmm ... I am not sure I can either.07:35
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lm__kuja_: both times, it tells me "No such file or directory"07:35
_kuja_Odd07:35
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_kuja_mayber I messed up with my copying & pastuing07:36
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DaSkreech!tuxracer07:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tuxracer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:36
DaSkreech!ppenguin07:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ppenguin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:36
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doudoowhen i sudo apt-get install beryl, the errror is : the package gpar2 must be reinstall. but i can't locate his archive.07:36
_kuja_lm_, that path should be correct, according to the directory structure you printed out for me.07:37
lm_hmmm......... cryptic....07:37
doudoowhen i sudo apt-get install gpar2 it says the says07:37
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doudoothe package is on my desktop07:37
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doudoodesktop folder i mean07:37
_kuja_type this: ll /usr/java/jre1.5.0_10/bin/java07:38
weswh-has anyone setup an SSHFS thing? i have it all working - but i want to mount a particular user of the system I am SSHing to, and it doesn't seem to have an option to supply an alternate user name.07:38
_kuja_*erm, ls -l07:38
_kuja_unles you have the ll alias set, sorry, it slipped07:38
fribuntu_kuja_, karmikaze: I checked the fsck log. It just repeats the messages it showed during the check. No additional information about the nature of the error. See http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38134/07:38
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lm__kuja_:  -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 65076 2006-11-10 00:03 /usr/java/jre1.5.0_10/bin/java07:39
fribuntuthat is quite annoying. Hmm ... what was the tool that could read out the HDD SMART data again?07:39
_kuja_fribuntu, disregard it, but make regular backups  JIK07:39
Ace2016Hi all07:39
FragragCan somebody explain me just how do I do this?: http://www.itdp.de/~itdp/html/mplayer-users/2004-11/msg00412.html07:39
_kuja_hi Ace07:39
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Ace2016When raid 1 is used, are both disks reading the same info at the same time? or is it only 1 disk that is read from with the other just synced every now and then?07:40
Ace2016_kuja_: Hi07:40
_kuja_Ace2016: At least with a hardware RAID controller, the drive whose head is closest to that block of data reads it07:40
Ace2016What about software raid, with mdadm?07:41
_kuja_I would assume it would do the same, presuming its smart enough.07:41
_kuja_Both drives won't be reading it at the same time unless there's multiple simultaneous accesses07:41
Ace2016so hdparm -tT wou;ld be faster for md0 than for individual disks?07:41
_kuja_Give it a try07:42
_kuja_Show me what it has to say07:42
_kuja_Do it for /dev/mapper/device ........ I think07:42
_kuja_if it supports doing that07:42
_kuja_or maybe doing it for md0 would work too, I'm not sure07:42
_kuja_or wait, /dev/mapper would dmraid07:42
_kuja_sorry07:42
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DaSkreechubotu: tuxracer is Tuxracer is now renamed Planet Penguin Racer!!!!! The package is planetpenguin-racer in universe. Enjoy07:43
_kuja_Ace2016: Try this: hdparm -tT /dev/md0 /dev/(insert first drive here), /dev/(second drive here)07:44
xenol!source-o-matic07:44
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic.  It does not currently support Edgy sources.  When asked if it will, the reply was "maybe".07:44
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fribuntuGrr. "Maxtor 6L200M0 ... device does not support SMART". What is that? A one year old disk without SMART capability?07:45
DaSkreech!planetpenguin-racer07:45
DaSkreech! info planetpenguin-racer07:45
ubotuplanetpenguin-racer: another 3D racing game featuring Tux, the Linux penguin. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-8 (edgy), package size 273 kB, installed size 744 kB07:45
dennisterhey everyone, u want to hear something really funny? technically-related?07:45
_kuja_My drives fare pretty well :D 1700mb/s for cache reads, 63mb/s for disk reads07:45
fribuntudennister: No.07:45
DaSkreechubotu: tuxracer is Tuxracer is now renamed Planet Penguin Racer!!!!! The package is planetpenguin-racer in !universe. Enjoy07:45
dennisteroooooookkkkkkk07:46
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_kuja_lm_, well that's certainly odd .... it definitely exists07:46
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lm__kuja_: yeah... how wouls i have to update it via the repos?07:47
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_kuja_lm_, if you do it via the repos, first you enable the multiverse repository, then you do sudo aptitude install sun-java5-jre07:47
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zarkohi07:48
Ace2016none of the pastebins work, very strange07:48
Ace2016Finally god one http://paste.uni.cc/1241007:48
Ace2016zarko: hi07:48
aleksanterii have a problem, but too lazy to write everything so i give a link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32221607:48
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Ace2016Why is raid1 so slow, you have 2 disks to read from, so why doesn't it easily out perform the single disks?07:50
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zarkohow to run streaming audio07:51
lm__kuja_: holy sh** i dont know what i did with your commands kuja, but now i cant open any apps!"!!07:51
_kuja_It's not designed to be faster, really, and the only time you see read performance increases is when you multiple access to the same thing. Raid1 is about redundancy, not speed.07:51
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lm_"KDEinitcould not launch firefox. Could not find firefox executable"...!!!07:51
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_kuja_RAID0 speeds up access, but it's not redundant, in fact, it's the opposite, it spreads the data across multiple disks, so if any one of them fails your're sol07:51
_kuja_!!07:51
lm_this is serious07:51
_kuja_lm_ that's way ODD!07:52
lm_...07:52
karmikaze!wpa07:52
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:52
_kuja_try sudo aptitude install firefox?07:52
_kuja_maybe it removed something while you weren't looking o.O07:52
Ace2016lm_: did you update kde and not restart or something?07:52
lm_...i cant open the teminarl07:52
lm_terminal07:52
lm_nope07:52
_kuja_lm_ ctrl + alt + f107:52
lm_not that i know of07:52
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lm_what would that do _kuja_?07:53
_kuja_use ctrl + alt + f7 to get back to the gui07:53
Ace2016i was about to say that07:53
_kuja_ctrl + alt + f1 takes you to vt107:53
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lm_what would that cause? a restart of kde?07:53
lm_jesus... almost every app on my kdepanel cant start07:54
lm_oh man....07:54
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DaSkreechlm_: kalm my friend07:54
lm_lol this is almost scary :)07:54
DaSkreechIf one change can break everything then one change can put it back :)07:55
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aleksanterilm_: reboot? just threw in tho :P07:55
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DaSkreechlm_: can you press Alt+F2 ?07:56
lm_uhm... not to worry anyone...... isnt there supposed to be a "bin" directory in the "usr"07:56
lm_?07:56
DaSkreechlm_: Yes07:56
lm_....................07:56
lm_w   t  f has happenede?07:56
lm_my bin directory oos gone!!07:57
lm_*is07:57
DaSkreechAh :)07:57
DaSkreech that would explain a lot07:57
lm_holy f***07:57
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DaSkreechsothere is no /bin07:57
DaSkreechlm_: again07:57
Ace2016how did you get rid of /bin07:57
DaSkreechcalm down :)07:57
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aleksanteriO_o07:57
aleksanterithat's mad!07:57
Ace2016i suppose a command that reinstalls all packages on the system would be handy about now, since root apps run from /sbin07:57
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DaSkreechTher is one07:58
DaSkreechlm_: do you still havea /usr/bin ?07:58
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Ace2016wait how do you know you don't have a /usr/bin?07:58
lm_how would a list EVERY directory...not just the visible?07:58
lm_dir?07:58
Ace2016ls /usr/bin/* shoud show it07:59
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WilltreHey guys, in Konversation how do I make it auto-identify? What do they mean by "Service"... Do I put freenode or something?07:59
_kuja_nvidia's 9631 driver is ticking me off!!07:59
Ace2016_kuja_: that driver is good07:59
Ace2016i'm using it with beryl and its very stable07:59
lm__kuja_: No such file or diretory07:59
_kuja_Like h*#!07:59
Ace2016i have to eat now, brb07:59
lm_YEAH!!07:59
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_kuja_I woudln't be hard booting my system if this driver was good ....07:59
lm__kuja_: im gonna strangle you when i get a hold on you08:00
_kuja_reachign for that power button is not a good sign!08:00
lm_:)08:00
lm_you moved my bin directory to my /usr/java directory!!08:00
_kuja_strangle me eh? Only if you promise to strangle nvidia in my stead08:00
WilltreI want to download software from the multiverse and universe, what repos should I add multi/universe to?08:00
_kuja_I moved nothing!08:00
lm_yes you did08:00
_kuja_you moved it!08:00
WilltreI liked Gnomes just check the box of what you want -.-08:00
_kuja_I never told you to use the mv command ....08:00
DaSkreech!universe > Willtre08:01
lm__kuja_:  no..... but you better give me some command to get it back08:01
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lm_:)08:01
_kuja_Where is it at again?08:01
_kuja_the mv command might do the trick ...08:01
WilltreDaSkreech: Thanks08:01
lm_... /usr/java/bin08:01
_kuja_sudo mv oldlocation newlocation08:01
DaSkreechlm_: Whats inside of that directory?08:02
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lm_DaSkreech: a LOT08:02
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lm_looks very much like my bin dir08:02
_kuja_/bin, or /usr/bin?08:02
DaSkreechAh :-) Is echo inside there?08:02
_kuja_what's in your /bin and /usr/bin directories?P08:02
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lm_DaSkreech: yeah, echo-klient-something08:03
lm__kuja_: what do you mean?08:03
DaSkreechlm_: No just echo nothing else08:03
_kuja_do ls /bin and ls /usr/bin08:03
_kuja_what's in those places?08:03
lm__kuja_: a LOT file names... like kicker and such08:04
lm_zip08:04
lm_zipnote08:04
lm_...08:04
lm_lot more08:04
lm_kfile08:04
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lm_etc.08:04
runpainGod day all08:04
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runpaincan some one helpme08:05
_kuja_Well that's good ....... those things don't seem to be broken. I'm suspecting the problems happened when you did the aptitude install sun-java5-jre ...08:05
aseigogoddess day to you too =)08:05
_kuja_runpain: probably08:05
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xenol!oo08:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about oo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:05
runpaini goofed up my linux it gets to splash screen and i cant logon08:05
runpaini changed the grapic card driver08:06
lm_fu***!!!08:06
_kuja_lm_ what now?08:06
runpainit is at grub boot now08:06
lm_how am i supposed to move the damn directory, when linux cant find the damn sudo command which is in the bin dir!!!08:06
lm_aaarrghgh08:06
aseigorunpain: so the splash screen is all "messed up" visually, or it isn't accepting your password?08:06
_kuja_runpain: can you use ctrl + alt + f1 to get back to the terminal?08:06
runpainhow do i fix this08:06
Rob-Westcan someone tell me why i cant play a game on http://www.freeonlinegames.com/08:07
_kuja_lm_, try running sudo with the full path08:07
lm_...allright, ill try it08:07
runpainaseigo08:07
DaSkreech!openoffice08:07
ubotua free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org08:07
lm_like "/usr/java/binsudo mvdir /usr/java/bin /usr"??08:07
xenolLinux is like wygnan, no windows, no gates, apache inside :p08:07
WilltreIs Koffice anywhere near openoffice's quality?08:07
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runpainok what it does is the proscess and then it gets stuck just befor the logon08:08
_kuja_I find koffice great, though some of its finer soon-to-be killer features are a bit buggy08:08
Stalwartdoes kubuntu feisty require internet connection to install?08:08
xenolno08:08
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_kuja_at least it doesn't take an hour to start up!08:08
lm_ahhhhhhhhhhh:D08:08
WilltreKoffice it is! *Downloads*08:09
lm_*whew*08:09
WilltreI've been using Krita instead of gimp lately too, it's nice since it's only one window08:09
Rob-Westcan someone tell me why i cant play a game on http://www.freeonlinegames.com/ when i load the games the game screen is black08:09
lm_nice linux help, you are _kuja_ :D08:09
WilltreRob-West My guess is they use flash and they require flash 8 and or you don't have flash 708:09
lm_moving my dirs around :D08:09
StalwartRob-West: java plugin probably08:09
elt0nhi can someone tell me how to speed up kpf under KDE?08:09
Rob-Westi have Flash 7 and Java08:09
_kuja_lm_, your problem right now is by far the whackiest I've ever seen08:09
runpaini am using ichthux08:09
DaSkreechlm_: Ha ha chalk it up to experience08:10
lm_lol yeah08:10
DaSkreechrunpain: How is it?08:10
runpainits real nice08:10
_kuja_elt0n, there are some settings in its configure menu that might speed it up for you08:10
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DaSkreech_kuja_: What's his problem other than hopping inodes?08:10
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elt0n_kuja_:i want to share files locally on lan with windows i get a much more higher speed! Why is this limited to 99999kb/s08:10
_kuja_rob-west, what's the output of java -version run from a terminal?08:10
WilltreI'm using Kopete how do I delete status messages?08:10
runpainbut i screwed up and replaced grapic driver and cant logon08:10
Stalwartchristian linux?08:11
_kuja_elt0n: no idea08:11
Rob-Westjava version "1.5.0_08"08:11
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elt0n_kuja_:but i only get 900k08:11
xenol!regnum online08:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about regnum online - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:11
Skeez187Are there any good usenet binary apps besides klibido?08:11
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_kuja_rob-west, that should work well ... I wonder if that's the version that your browser is using, java.com has an applet that will tell you08:11
Rob-Westwell im running FireFox 2.008:12
runpainstal can you pm me08:12
Stalwart?08:12
runpainya you asked is it christian08:12
runpaini am usins my desktop08:13
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runpainrite now08:13
runpainwith windoz08:13
WilltreK > G *Is amazed by all the ksoftware, compared to gnome as I just switched.  Ktoon looks awesome.  Kdevelop is nice.*08:13
Stalwarti just think religion is personal stuff of every person, i don't like "christian", "satanic" and other such stuff08:13
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elt0nafk08:14
runpainlisten i wasnt asking or preaching08:14
Stalwartit's like sexual orientation - i don't think "linux of gays" is good idea08:14
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DaSkreechStalwart: All linux is agnostic08:14
LjL!offtopic08:14
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!08:14
Stalwart=P08:14
DaSkreech No one knows all knowledge so we all work together to scratch our knowledge itch :-)08:14
runpaini was only looking for some help here you arte the one with the opions08:14
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DaSkreechrunpain: what did you need help with08:15
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Rob-Westwhere can i get like Internet Explorer 608:15
DaSkreech _kuja_What's lm_'s problem?08:15
WilltreHas anyone used a Wacom tablet with Krita?08:15
StalwartRob-West: try ies4linux script08:15
DaSkreechRob-West: apt-get install firefox08:15
_kuja_Seems like lm_'s problem is nightmarish at this point08:15
runpaini scrweed up my graphic driver now it wont boot to logon scren08:16
DaSkreech_kuja_: Which is?08:16
Rob-Westfirefox is installed08:16
Willtrerunpain: Which driver are you using?08:16
DaSkreechrunpain: Do you have a live Cd?08:16
Stalwartrunpain: did you try using livecd to repair config?08:16
DaSkreechRob-West: Then you are ok :)08:16
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deushello08:16
_kuja_binaries seem to have been copied or moved from some folder to another (/usr/java/bin, or similar), and everything is broken08:16
Rob-Westi think this game needs shockwave08:16
_kuja_Rob-West: Shockwave isn't available under Linux08:17
runpainya i havce live cd but this machine will not boot with the dvd driver installed only the cdrom and i left it home08:17
Rob-Westand using like Crossover wont work08:17
Rob-Westunless i install the Windows version of Firefox08:17
_kuja_you *might* be able to install a windows browser with wine, and install shockwave with wine08:18
_kuja_I don't know if it will work or not htough.08:18
runpaincan i repair when i boot to grub08:18
runpainin recovry mode08:18
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Rob-Westi got a crossover08:19
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Stalwartrunpain: you'll need default config if you don't know xorg.conf structure08:19
runpaincan i repair config from the grub08:19
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Stalwartrunpain: grub is bootloader, you need to boot your system anyways08:19
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Stalwartin singleuesr mode08:20
runpainok its to there08:20
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_kuja_the xorg.conf may be repairalbe from a terminal with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:20
runpainyes08:20
towynchi, i'm trying to watch video online firefox, and it keeps saying i'm missing plugins x-mplayer2, i already installed mplayer, what could i do08:20
Stalwarttowync: mplayer-plugin isntalled?08:20
runpainok i can make it to trem08:21
DaSkreechlm_: What's the problem?08:21
towyncStalwart how do i install the plugin, i think i just download from apt get mplayer08:21
_kuja_supposedly this non-usable xserver-xorg configuration drops you to the terminal "problem" (from a certain perspective) will be fixed in feisty :) (see the bullet-proof x specification)08:21
runpainok its booting through the config08:22
GeckoHey there. There was an update to a lot of kde packages a few days ago, and since then, I have experienced a lot of random lock-ups in kde. I have linked the problem to dcopserver - maybe it crashes, maybe it just doesn't work that well. Sometimes when I launch kde, and start konqueror, konqueror freezes, and every subsequent app I start locks up as well. Has anyone experienced this before, or got any solution?08:22
_kuja_Gecko: I've not experienced this.08:23
Geckoweird08:23
_kuja_are you sure _all_ packages were updated?08:23
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runpainnow when i turn off grphic its a blank screen with flashing line08:23
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Gecko_kuja_: yes. I have some unresolved dependencies regarding python, but nothing that has anything to do with kde08:23
runpaini an re booting08:23
Stalwarttowync: mplayer-plugin must be in repos08:24
runpaini am rebooting08:24
Gecko_kuja_: sometimes even kicker crashes08:24
_kuja_ Gecko: and you're using dapper? or edgy?08:24
towyncStalwart so just do apt-get install mplayer-plugin?08:24
Gecko_kuja_: edgy08:24
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Rob-Westwine is laggy08:24
_kuja_Hmm, odd enough.08:24
Stalwarttowync: probably, i didn't use ubuntu since dapper08:24
Rob-Westnow if i install ShockWave with wine will it work for the Linux FireFox08:25
_kuja_rob-west, it does tend to be, it's far from perfect08:25
Gecko_kuja_: it's almost every second time I start up kde. When it actually is stable, I get a message on launch that dcopserver isn't running, or something the like08:25
unix_infidelRob-West: of course not.08:25
_kuja_rob-west: no08:25
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towyncStalwart cool, what do u use? i'm pretty new to linux and i'm still trying out for a nice OS08:26
runpaini am at root@bible_laptop:~#08:26
_kuja_Gecko: try reinstalling kde-base, maybe there's a problem of some sort08:26
darkserverhello08:26
_kuja_*erm, kdebase08:26
Gecko_kuja_: ok, I will do that, but not while kde is running :)08:26
Stalwarttowync: i was using archlinux08:26
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unix_infideltowync: my guess is the distro that helps you get the most work done will keep you sane when your not doing work.08:26
runpainhow do i reconfig graphic card driver08:26
unix_infidelfor me that was *ubuntu08:27
runpainback to the orginal one08:27
darkserverI have some kind of trouble, when i trying to install beryl in kubuntu edgy08:27
towynccool thx everyone08:27
Stalwartubuntu is great08:27
Stalwartarchlinux has bad amd64 support =\08:27
towyncStalwart is mplayer different from mplayer plugin?08:27
darkserverplease i need help, some help08:27
Stalwarttowync: mplayer-plugin is wrapper that allows you to play videos in mozilla, opera, konq08:27
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faLUCEHi all.. which is the command line to see the available and the actually free ram? thnks08:27
runpainStalwart are you going to help me?08:28
StalwartfaLUCE: free -m08:28
Stalwartrunpain: no, i'm just chit-chatting =] 08:28
runpainyou started to08:28
faLUCEStalwart: thnks08:28
Stalwarti like how ubuntu evolves, it's good08:28
StalwartfaLUCE: np08:29
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murchadh_bhabarunpain, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:29
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runpainthank you mur08:29
Stalwartrunpain: i usually use livecd for fixing my problems, i never used singleuser mode08:29
Stalwartso i can't help you08:29
murchadh_bhabarunpain, vw ??)08:29
_kuja_darkserver, what sort of trouble?08:31
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vellei want to buy a printer, is it always easy to install them on kubuntu? or should i look for something special?08:31
Stalwartvelle: hp released opensource drivers08:31
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Stalwartvelle: check hplip.sf.net08:32
runpaindid it mugot the blue screens08:32
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deushey guys08:33
runpainat key board detection08:33
deusI burned a liveCD of kubuntu08:33
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deusAnd I got the splash screen, but halfway through the boot process it hangs08:33
velleStalwart: opensource drivers is great, but i have NO idea how to modify drivers myself, i need an easy way to install it08:34
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_kuja_velle, you'd best check what's compatible before you buy, and then look for that compatible printer. Printers can be trouble in linux08:34
Stalwartvelle: opensource drivers are good for distro developers, ubuntu devs include hplip by default08:34
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_kuja_http://www.freestandards.org/en/OpenPrinting08:35
knapp_What program can convert m4a to mp3?08:35
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Stalwartknapp_: much programs, audio-convert for example08:36
cloakableknapp_: ffmpeg08:36
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knapp_cool thanks08:36
ChainsawHello all, has anyone tried setting up syslog for a linksys router in Kubuntu?  Successfully?08:36
deuscan anyone help me with my liveCD problem?08:37
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_kuja_deus: what problem are you having with it?08:37
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xenolDaSkreech if i install software and i remove it will there stay some remains after em?08:38
knapp_cloakable do you know what the command is for ffmpeg to convert ?08:38
Stalwartdeus: check your hardware, if it sucks just like my new laptop then you'll need some sex with kernel parameters08:38
deus_kuja_, well, I tried to load a live *CD* and it boots but it hangs halfway trough08:38
_kuja_probably noacpi08:38
runpainim backto the root@bible_laptop:~#08:38
Stalwarti managed to get linux on my lappy by passing noapic irqpoll08:38
Daskreech2xenol: Yes08:38
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Daskreech2unless you say purge08:38
Daskreech2 then it's all gone08:38
runpainshould i reboot08:38
_kuja_deus: you should be able to pass in some kernel parameters ..... try giving it the noacpi option08:38
deusStalwart, what does that mean?  I doesnt sound nearly as fun as sex with humans08:38
_kuja_LOL08:39
deusOkay.  I do that08:39
Stalwartdeus: use google to find some info about your hardware compatibility08:39
runpainmu?08:39
Stalwartmy lappy's chipset (nvidia mcp51) sucks ;[08:39
runpainshould i boot back up08:39
jerpjust for the record: when I downloaded kubuntu I burnt the cd at a slower rate but still found that it would hang during install and solved that problem by moving the graphical interface around and then clicking the next button to proceed.08:40
xenolDaSkreech onyl packages stay there or config files, some tmp like in windows?08:42
xenolonly08:42
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Daskreech2remove leaves your config files incase you want to install it again later08:43
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xenolDaSkreech2 so app s removed but package and conf files(it there r any) r stored on / partition?08:45
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Daskreech2what do you mean by package?08:45
Daskreech2Dink: Got my PM?08:45
_kuja_xenol: it keeps conf and similar files, which are usually hidden files in your home director, conf files in /etc/, or log files in /var08:46
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DinkDaskreech2, about ps3/ubuntu ?08:46
_kuja_*directory08:46
Daskreech2Yeah the walkthrough to install08:46
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Dinkyeah I saw but not really the way to do it ..... waiting for the fluxbuntu or a real ps3 image08:47
Dinkdont want to install 2 os's then remove oen08:47
Dinkone*08:47
xenolDaSkreech2  ?08:47
Daskreech2So you are going to use fluxbuntu?08:47
Dinkthey are going to come out with a ps3 image08:48
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Daskreech2Dink: Yeah But I mean wouldn't that be fluxbuntu and not Kubuntu :)08:49
Daskreech2xenol: I should ask you that08:49
Daskreech2In fact.. I did!!08:49
Dink;), until "ubuntu" has a ps3 image its closest thing that will be supported to a "ubuntu" distro08:49
_kuja_The one thing I wonder about linux on the ps3 is the graphics drivers .... there is no proprietary drivers for nvidia cards on the PPC platform, and even if there were, the nvidia drivers likely don't support the RSX anyway08:50
xenolDaSkreech2  fluxbuntu?08:50
Daskreech2Yeah But shouldn't you "technically" be able to apt-get install a fluxbuntu server then apt-get isnatll kubunut-desktop08:50
Daskreech2xenol: That wasn't for you08:50
Dink_kuja_, it a security risk i think to give full access to the RSX08:50
Daskreech2xenol: I was asking what you meant by package08:50
xenolDaSkreech2  that i download thorugh apt-get08:51
Daskreech2_kuja_: I recall .. somewhere that nvidia would release drivers for it08:51
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Daskreech2no remove doesn't get rid of those08:51
Daskreech2ap-tget clean gets rid of those08:51
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_kuja_be right back, I've got laundry to do ..08:51
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xenolDaSkreech2  apt-get clean does get rid of wat?08:52
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Daskreechxenol: The package you downloaded08:53
Daskreechthey are kept in /var/cache/apt/archives08:53
xenoli need to write apt-get clean name_of_the_package?08:53
Daskreechno that' just gets rid of everything in /var/cache/apt/archives08:53
Daskreechautoclean is smarter way08:54
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xenoldaskreech do u know any page where i can choose wat for i want to sue PC and gives me the list of sofware i should have?08:55
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DaskreechWhy do yo uwant to sue your PC?08:56
b0nnHi all, I'm having upgrading problems (dapper -> edgy)08:56
xenolsue?08:56
Daskreech!upgrade08:57
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)08:57
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b0nnI cannot reboot my system, and google hasnt shown me any solution.  The errors I get are, mounting /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev failed no such file or directory08:57
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xenolany web page that can give me a list of best soft in categories like ofice, chat, archiver, media/audio player etc08:57
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Daskreech!windows08:58
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents08:58
Daskreech!equivalents08:58
ubotuA comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant08:58
DaskreechThat one :)08:58
xenolty08:58
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b0nnah, so I need to install the following that were heldback apt-get -u dist-upgrade | grep ^' ' | xargs apt-get -y install08:59
sinpathneed help my yahoo keeps losing connection with the yahoo sever08:59
b0nnhow do I do that on a system that wont boot?08:59
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lm_Daskreech: _kuja_ : sorry for not answering, was outside running... but no worries, got it fixed by using the sudo path and moving the bin dir back :D08:59
_kuja_lm_: that's good news09:00
lm_yup :)09:00
b0nndo I boot a live cd, mount/chroot, then run that command?09:00
sinpathany one?09:00
Daskreechb0nn: That can work09:00
Daskreechsinpath: how often?09:01
lm_well thanks for the help... allthough my original problem still exist hehe see ya09:01
sinpathwell about every 3 or so hours09:02
Daskreechwhat was the original problem09:02
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DaskreechOh thought that was just me09:02
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Stalwartw00t, kubuntu 7.04 is awesome09:02
Stalwart<3 developers09:02
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DaskreechHerd 1?09:03
_kuja_kubuntu 7.04 isn't even kubuntu 7.04 yet .... it's still kubuntu feisty, and as fa09:03
_kuja_r as I can tell it's hardly been touched09:03
_kuja_just edgy with some updated packages ...09:03
StalwartDaskreech: yup, i run livecd now and will install it on hard drive right now09:03
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Stalwart_kuja_: feisty has newer kernel09:03
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hudsyhello09:04
hudsyi have a problem!!09:04
_kuja_as I said, edgy with some newer packages, such as that newer kernel09:04
Stalwartmy hardware sucks and i need fresh kernel09:04
_kuja_hudsy: say it09:04
hudsyi cant open folders,09:04
Daskreechhudsy: can you go into folders?09:04
_kuja_What does it tell you?09:04
hudsykonqueror->erased09:04
_kuja_permission denied or something?09:04
hudsywith firefox09:04
hudsyno09:04
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_kuja_I don't get it, what do you mean by konqueror->erased?09:05
hudsyi havent it09:05
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_kuja_apt-get install konqueror?09:05
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hudsyit give me an error09:06
_kuja_what error?09:06
hudsyit says the pakage is broke09:06
_kuja_!pastebin09:06
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)09:06
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_kuja_can you show me what the error is?09:06
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_kuja_ubotu spoils me ...09:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about spoils me ... - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:06
_kuja_!botsnack09:06
ubotuYum!09:06
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Daskreech_kuja_: How do you discipline the boot?09:07
hudsyEls segents paquets tenen dependncies sense satisfer:09:07
DaskreechBotsmack or something09:07
hudsy  konqueror: Depn: kcontrol (= 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3) per s'installar 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.209:07
hudsy             Depn: kdebase-kio-plugins (= 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3) per s'installar 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.209:07
hudsy             Depn: kdesktop (= 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3) per s'installar 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.209:07
hudsy             Depn: kfind (= 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3) per s'installar 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.209:07
hudsyE: Paquets trencats09:07
hudsyhudsy@hudsy-desktop:~$09:07
_kuja_funny09:07
_kuja_try it09:07
hudsywhat can i do??09:08
Daskreechbot09:08
Daskreech!botsmack09:08
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about botsmack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:08
_kuja_try apt-get i nstall kdebase-kio-plugins kdesktop kfind09:08
Daskreech!botslap09:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about botslap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:08
ubuntu_oops09:08
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Daskreech!shut up!09:08
ubotu:x09:08
Daskreechheehee :)09:08
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hudsybotslap???09:08
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_kuja_haha09:08
hudsywhats this??09:08
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Daskreechhudsy: the opposite of !botsnack09:09
_kuja_try apt-get i nstall kdebase-kio-plugins kdesktop kfind09:09
iberthi! I have a problem with kmail / imap. Sometimes the main In Folder "Posteingang" Disapears und is named "INBOX" after starting kontact. Further is the folder not a "special iconed" folder anymore, but is in the "normal" order of all the other folders in that email account. I had this problem in the past sometimes, but when restarting kontact the normal structur took place. Now I can't restore the old structure. any idea?09:09
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_kuja_hudsy: that was just fun with the bot09:09
Daskreech!botsnack09:09
ubotuYum!09:09
_kuja_ibert: I don't know, I don't use IMAP. I have heared of troubles with IMAP when using kmail before.09:10
hudsy_kuja_: anything...09:10
Stalwartghm, i can't run installer09:10
Stalwartit gives me traceback09:10
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Stalwart  File "/usr/lib/ubiquity/ubiquity/frontend/kde-ui.py", line 27, in ?09:10
Stalwart    from kdeui import *09:10
_kuja_hudsy: apt-get install kdebase-kio-plugins kdesktop kfind09:10
StalwartImportError: dynamic module does not define init function (initkdeui)09:10
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hudsyit says is already installed...09:11
_kuja_Stalwart: feisty is far from being considered a stable release at the moment, your best bet is dist-upgrading from edgy, but that will take work, you'd best know what you're doing.09:11
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_kuja_hudsy: that's interesting, one moment09:11
Stalwarti want to install feisty, is there a development chan?09:11
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_kuja_hudsy: are you running edgy or dapper?09:12
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hudsyedgy09:12
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homer_hi, need help with 5.1 sound09:12
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_kuja_Humm, I think it's saying that konqueror 3.5.5ubuntu3 is trying to be installed, and it's depending on kcontrol 3.5.5ubuntu3, but kcontrol 3.5.5ubuntu3.2  is installed, but it has to be equal.09:13
homer_!5.109:13
_kuja_What repository are you using?09:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 5.1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:13
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mb___!floating point exception09:13
_kuja_!surround sound09:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about surround sound - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:13
mb___can anyone hear me?09:13
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_kuja_Huh, what's that, I can't hear you?09:14
mb___all of my x window apps are giving me floating point exceptions =/09:14
Daskreechinstall a fpu on your CPU?09:14
_kuja_mb___? Weird, are you overclocking or anythign weird like that?09:14
mb___not that i know of09:15
hudsywhat can i do?09:15
_kuja_hudsy: what repositories are you using? Can I see your /etc/apt/sources.list file?09:15
_kuja_!pastebin | hudsy09:15
ubotuhudsy: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)09:15
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mb___as the story goes, i installed the latest ati drivers the other day, and as i was playing around with wine, i had this point where the xserver got some type of font error when i tried to start it.. so i installed fluxbox, and everything's been fine until now09:17
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aleksanteriwb DarkWizdom09:17
DarkWizdomthanks  :|  still having problem?09:18
aleksanteriye :(09:18
_kuja_What's the problem?09:19
DarkWizdominternet not working :)09:20
_kuja_Crazy wireless problem I presume?09:20
DarkWizdomno, adsl09:20
hudsykuja, what can i doo??09:20
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_kuja_hudsy, can I see your /etc/apt/sources.list file?09:20
hudsyi paste here??09:20
_kuja_!pastebin09:21
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)09:21
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hudsykuja: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38151/09:22
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Ace2016I'm back09:23
hudsyany idea kuja???09:23
BluesKajsame here :)09:23
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Ace2016hudsy: what happened to your konqueror?09:24
hudsyi dont know....i've erased and now i cant reinstall it!09:25
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_kuja_I'm looking at it now hudsy09:26
hudsyok09:26
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hudsythenks09:26
WilltreI'm trying to get a Wacom intuos tablet to run on KDE.  I downloaded wacomtools and followed the wikipage/forum post but still when I mouse over stuff they don't get highlighted and I can't click drag. Can anyone help?09:27
jerpHas that 'NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9631-pkg2.run' driver for amd64 been checked out for installation on Kubuntu or should one stay with the standard nvidias in Adept manager?09:28
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Ace2016_kuja_: would it help hudsy to add kubuntu's kde-latest to his repos and try to update and get konqueror back that way?09:29
_kuja_hudsy: I think I've figured out your problem, try adding this line to your sources.list: deb http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates main restricted universe multiverse, sudo apt-get update, then try to install konqueror09:29
_kuja_No, Konqueror 3.5.5ubuntu3.2 is provided by the edgy-updates repository09:29
Ace2016never knew taht09:29
Ace2016that*09:29
knapp_How can I restore a file I deleted using the 'rm' command?09:30
_kuja_knapp_ in short, you can't09:30
BrianSteffenswhat is the name of that thing that manages desktop widgets? karamba or something?09:30
Daskreechknapp_: redownload?09:30
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knapp_yikes09:30
DaskreechJesus has left us :(09:30
_kuja_lol09:31
BrianSteffensha09:31
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DarkWizdom!jusus09:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jusus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:31
DarkWizdom:(09:31
Ace2016knapp_: a data recovery app might be able to help, but i've never tried it09:31
SlimGMore importantly, jesus is a KDE user :)09:31
DarkWizdom:D09:31
BrianSteffens:o)09:31
hudsy thanks kuja!09:31
jerpthat was probably Hey-suse09:31
DaskreechHe loves choice :)09:31
_kuja_You're welcome hudsy, I'm assuming it worked?09:32
hudsyyou are the best, ets el millor, eres el mejor, tu es le meilleur!!09:32
hudsyXD09:32
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CotRo|eRHey any 1 can show me how to do this: http://pastebin.ca/286605 in terminal (since i'm using ubuntu server)09:32
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_kuja_;)09:33
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ScottKCotRo|eR - mkdir /home/YOUR_NAME/samba09:34
ScottKWas that the question?09:34
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CotRo|eRyes, if I do that command it gets shared automatically ?09:35
ScottKThat makes the directory.09:35
CotRo|eRhow do I make step 2, 3 and 4 in terminal ?09:36
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Willtre!ati > Willtre09:37
ScottKTry doing those steps on your desktop and then look at the permissions of the folder.  Use chmod to match those permissions.09:37
hermesreghello??09:37
hermesreganybody can help me??09:38
hermesregWhen i start the streamtuner, the pc sends me something about xmms09:38
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jerpheremsreg, should we ask what that something is?09:39
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jerpor are we to know09:40
hermesregwait a minute im going to repeat the action and tell to you the error message09:40
jerpthis isn't foreknowledge, it's called IRC chat09:40
hermesregoh I'm sorry ! Bye!!09:41
jerpnp09:41
murchadh_bhabaCotRo|eR, /etc/samba/smb.conf is where shares and stuff go, is this what you're looking for. You can sudo nano /etc/samba/smb.etc09:42
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DarkWizdomwhat do you recomend for burning iso s in kubuntu?09:44
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_kuja_k3b09:44
DarkWizdomok09:44
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_kuja_By the way, k3b 1.0RC2 was released this week, and it's positively awesome09:45
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loslopezmctux09:45
DarkWizdomthat's perfect :))09:45
_kuja_Hmm, I think I'll venture into the dark, mysterious world of package building and try to build a k3b 1.0RC2 deb09:46
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DarkWizdomme too09:47
DarkWizdomheh09:47
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martasbnczspeek czek ?09:47
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DarkWizdomhmm09:47
DarkWizdomit says on website it's unstable ^^09:48
DarkWizdomgonna wait a bit longer :P09:48
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CotRo|eRtnx murchadh_bhaba :)09:49
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_kuja_DarkWizdom: it's plenty stable09:50
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Imrahilhow can I make a script with a dcop call or kwin or something to focus a window of a particular name? it is not a kde app so nothing is exposed in dcop09:50
DarkWizdomok :09:51
DarkWizdom:)09:51
_kuja_it's not stable, it's currently at the second release candidate, but I mean it's stable enough to use09:51
_kuja_Heck, 1.0pre1 was pretty stable at that ...09:51
_kuja_albeit not perfect, but certainly stable enough to use09:51
DarkWizdomgood enough for me09:52
_kuja_do apt-get install build-essential, then apt-get build-dep k3b09:52
_kuja_then you should be able to compile it without issue, should09:52
DarkWizdomok :|09:53
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CotRo|eRI have just managed to share a folder from ubuntu to windows, how do I set a limit of e.g. 10GB on samba???09:53
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virtual-voicui selected remote login in kdm and put the ip adress of an edgy computer but nothing happened (this computer is a breezy one)09:53
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_kuja_to compile it, you first extract it (tar xf filename.tar.bz2), then you cd into the folder it created, then ./configure --enable-debug=full; make; sudo make install09:54
virtual-voicucan someone please point to some instructions on how to establish a remote login through X?09:54
DarkWizdomdo I need dubug though?09:54
DarkWizdomdebug*09:54
CotRo|eRI have just managed to share a folder from ubuntu to windows, how do I set a limit of e.g. 10GB on samba???09:54
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_kuja_!remote09:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about remote - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:54
_kuja_DarkWizdom: I just throw that in because it's helpful09:54
DarkWizdomye, ok09:55
Cuddles_in_KYok folks, after seven reboots, my system isn't crashing at random. -but- i need to install libcurl-gnutls-dev, but i can't get it to install. both apt-get, and adept both just say ''waiting for headers'' any ideas on this?09:55
_kuja_Should something go awry, it'll give better debugging information so they can fix it easier09:55
DarkWizdomtrue :|09:55
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_kuja_Cuddles_in_KY: which repositories are you using? Try changing it to archive.ubuntu.com, or us.archive.ubuntu.com, updated,  and see if it makes any difference09:56
_kuja_(this of course, is done with /etc/apt/sources.list)09:56
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murchadh_bhabaCotRo|eR, You seem to be on your way, cool! I'm not sure I get what you're asking now. Can you clarify? ??)09:57
Cuddles_in_KYkuja, no joy. can't even run apt-get update09:57
_kuja_What?09:58
_kuja_did you try changing the mirrors like I suggested?09:58
Cuddles_in_KYyes09:58
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_kuja_Something is certainly wrong then09:58
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CotRo|eRmurchadh_bhaba: Yes of course, tnx btw. I have shared /home/samba and its now shown on My windows machine :D, now how do I make a limit to use 40GB and not more on /home/samba ?09:59
_kuja_The update flies well for me, so it's not a problem with the mirrors09:59
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Cuddles_in_KYwell, it's not not my connection, since i can connect anywhere else.09:59
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morgWork... I am baffled as to why df is not showing my root partition being mounted09:59
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_kuja_Cuddles in KY: try this in a terminal: dig http://archive.ubuntu.com10:00
Cuddles_in_KYkuja, nothing.10:01
Cuddles_in_KYjust sitting there10:01
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_kuja_Well, cuddles_in_ky, that's not good news.10:03
bthibaulti have 2 versions of flash installed for firefox, anybody know how to get rid of one10:03
bthibault?10:03
_kuja_sounds like a dns resolution problem or something10:04
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_kuja_bthibault: delete the one you don't want from the browsers plugin folder10:04
Cuddles_in_KYi can ping, surf, and chat just fine.10:04
BluesKajbthibault, which 2 versions ?10:04
CotRo|eRmurchadh_bhaba: Yes of course, tnx btw. I have shared /home/samba and its now shown on My windows machine :D, now how do I make a limit to use 40GB and not more on /home/samba ?10:04
Cuddles_in_KYi can even ping the repositories10:04
murchadh_bhabaCotRo|eR, You have me there. I've not had to do this. I'm doin' a quick scan of some notes. Hmmm......10:05
bthibaultBluesKaj: 7.0 r68 and 9.0 d7810:05
_kuja_You can ping them, but you can't resolve their address, if dig isn't working for it, try resetting your networking (sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop && sleep 10s && sudo /etc/init.d/networking start)10:05
CotRo|eRtnx :)10:05
Cuddles_in_KYkuja, i can pull it up in firefox too.10:06
BluesKajbthibault, dump vers 7 ...vers9 is the latest one10:06
_kuja_I suggest trying to restart the networking anyway, might fix it ;)10:06
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bthibaultBluesKaj: thanks i kind of figured that, i only have one libflashplayer.so file that i can find10:07
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_kuja_bthibault: sudo locate -u; locate libflashplayer.so10:07
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BluesKajbthibault, i had to do that as well, the /usr/lib/firefox/plugins file doesn't show which *.so file is which10:08
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bthibault_kuja_ thanks10:09
bthibaultBluesKaj thanks10:09
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BluesKajnp, bthibault. ..good luck :)10:09
Daskreech_kuja_: Whats so good about it?10:10
Daskreech can it burn Bluray?10:10
_kuja_Yes10:10
_kuja_with growisofs710:10
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_kuja_At least, it recommends growisofs7 be used ...10:10
_kuja_I don't have a bluray burner so I can't test if it works.10:10
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Adam_eMhi10:11
Cuddles_in_KYok, i'm back. even rebooted my firewall, still no joy.10:11
_kuja_And I don't have $x00 dollars with which to get one10:11
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_kuja_Also, audio previews for when you're burning a music cd (yes, this is new), massively improved/completed dvd ripping support, a slew of usability improvements10:12
Daskreech_kuja_: I have $00 dollars10:12
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Adam_eMis there a possibility to set up a wireless connection using kubuntu livecd?10:12
_kuja_Daskreech: Wow, that sounds like how much I have10:12
Daskreechk3b is in which branch? Playground ?10:12
Cuddles_in_KYkuja, any more ideas?10:12
_kuja_multimedia, I think10:12
_kuja_cuddles_in_ky, I just went to do an apt-get update, and it hung at some point or another, something's wrong10:13
Cuddles_in_KYgee, ya think?10:13
_kuja_I think it hung on the universe or multiverse repository10:13
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Adam_eMso what about the wireless connection setup? is it possible to get it directly from the livecd?10:15
_kuja_Daskreech: you can get k3b from k3b.org, click on the download link for RC210:15
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DaskreechI'm not sure I use k3b that much :)10:15
_kuja_It's painless, I swear10:16
Daskreechbasically I fire it up once a new Kubuntu release is made to make an alternative and desktop CD10:16
Daskreechand I can do that with cdrecord10:16
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DaskreechThough I did use it once to make a audio CD for a friend10:16
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Daskreechbackport it :)10:18
_eMaX_re10:18
_eMaX_in a wireless network with multiple repeaters, how can I see which one I am connected with10:19
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khaledhi there, i have kubuntu installed on a partition and /home installed on another partition. can i install another distro on a new partition but at the same time uses /home ?10:23
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virtual-voicuok, does anyone know how to i connect to another machine through X? or how do i have to configure my machines to let kde connect them10:25
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Timmmmvirtual-voicu: ssh -X you@remote-machine10:29
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reagleBRKLNi have files on a fuse partion i can't remove for some reason10:30
reagleBRKLN?--------- ? ? ? ?            ? rawdog.html10:30
Timmmmkhaled: Don't see why not.10:30
reagleBRKLNany way to force the issue?10:30
soonI'm utterly stuck ... cant seem to connect to my wireless (DHCP) ... Wireless Assist. shows me all 3 local routers, but Connection failed ... (IBM T60, Atheros wifi card) ... please help me :-)10:30
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Captain_Redbeardhow is kubuntus 64bit CD? I mean are all packages that are availible through the resps for the x86 architecture availible for the 64bit one and so forth?10:31
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aleksanteri!kuser10:31
ubotukuser: KDE user/group administration tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 230 kB, installed size 796 kB10:31
murchadh_bhabavirtual-voicu, How connect? Filesharing, ssh, desktop (vnc)? Tell us more? Give us more Input? InPuT???10:32
virtual-voicuwell, X is supposed to be a network transparent display system10:33
virtual-voicuthat means the windows will appear on this machine but the applications will run on the other one10:33
virtual-voicuit's similar to ssh just that is GUI10:33
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Captain_Redbeardanyone?10:34
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_kuja_C_R: not all, but most10:35
_kuja_The differnece is less than 2%10:35
DaskreechCaptain_Redbeard: If you have a 64 Bit machine and use a 64bit kernel then your apps are 64 bit10:35
Daskreechassuming they are open source10:35
BrianSteffenscan anyone please point me to some kind of tutorial on networking with fedora core or specifically ubuntu?10:35
Captain_RedbeardDaskreech: eherm? If you compile them all for your system yes10:35
Realistic_Dragonwhat kind BrianSteffens? advanced stuff (ad hoc routing, BGP, that kind of thing)?10:36
DaskreechWell if someone compi;es them for your system :)10:36
computerdoes anyone know how i can add borders?10:36
Captain_RedbeardDaskreech: exactly ;)10:36
computersorry10:36
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BrianSteffensrealistic_dragon that'd be nice for the future yes but for now i'm looking for basics.. proper management of permissions to shared network resources, etc10:36
computeri meant does anyone know how i can add borders to windows?10:36
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DaskreechRight well the repos have both x86 and x86_64 if you are 64bit you get x86_6410:37
_kuja_ARen't there borders by default computer?10:37
Captain_RedbeardDaskreech: My question though is, will I be able to have the same vast selection of binary packages I am used to?10:37
Realistic_Dragonhmm im actually not sure about that BrianSteffens, sorry :( if the ubuntu wiki doesnt have anything then the gentoo forums are always an interesting place to look - i assume you are sharing with samba? then you can also try the samba website10:37
Realistic_Dragonor the samba irc channel :)10:37
BrianSteffensrealistic10:37
BrianSteffensrealistic_dragon ty :)10:37
Realistic_Dragonnp10:37
_kuja_C_R: yes, a handful aren't available for 64_bit10:37
_kuja_a small handful at that10:38
Captain_Redbeard_kuja_: Hmm ok, is it even something I will notice?10:38
Daskreech_kuja_: I'm guessing using the capn's full name would help :)10:38
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Captain_Redbeard_kuja_: usually typing cap<tap> works ;)10:38
Captain_Redbeard*tab10:38
_kuja_does it?10:38
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BrianSteffenscaptain_redbeard: my experience with that is pretty much everything is available if you're willing to build some from source10:39
DaskreechCaptain_Redbeard: I guess there may be one or two obscure packages that stopped being maintained before the advent of 64 bit that you can't live without that may possible not have been updated10:39
_kuja_Captain_Redbeard:  oooooh it does10:39
_kuja_thanks :)10:39
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Daskreech!tab10:39
ubotuYou can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.10:39
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towycc_kuja_ yeah borders were on by default, i sort of took it off, and now i can't find where to turn it back on lol10:39
Captain_RedbeardBrianSteffens: yes obviously ;) But me being a lazy twat is the reason I left gentoo behind me... and if I have to build stuff from source anyway it kinda beats the purpose ;)10:39
_kuja_and to think I've been typing them out for all this time10:39
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towyccwell someone mighta had the same question and still needed what u typed out =) so y ou still helped alot of people who is not speaking =)10:40
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towyccdoes anyone know how i can turn on borders for windows?10:40
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_kuja_towycc: assuming you're using kwin, system-settings -> appearance -> window decorations might be a place to start10:41
towyccand yes the borders were on by default, i somehow took it off, i remember too, but i just don't know where10:41
towyccto turn it back on at10:41
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towycci checked their tho10:41
_kuja_right click on the titlebar of any window, you should be able to do some configuration from one of the options that gets you10:42
_kuja_I've been using beryl lately though, so I can't really check it myself10:42
_kuja_unless i pull up a vm10:42
towyccyeah thx tho, i didn't want u to have to check, i'll look around some more, and *so jealous* you have beryl working! =)10:43
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_kuja_switching vts has been throwing my video driver for a loop lately10:43
fdovingtowycc: you can access the menus in question from the tasklist too, if you've disabled the borders.10:43
towyccoo, where's tasklist10:43
towycco u mean to open the windows decoration thingy10:43
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DarkWizdomhow do you set password for root? meaning that it has no password at all at the moment10:44
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_kuja_DarkWizdom, why not use sudo?10:44
_kuja_!sudo10:44
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.10:44
aleksanterihmm it simply is not an option now10:44
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aleksanterilike, set the password for root permamently10:45
DarkWizdomyeah10:45
_kuja_towycc: try looking under systemsettings -> desktop -> window behavior and systemsettings -> desktop -> window specific settings10:45
towycccool thx _kuja_10:46
DarkWizdomI think some binaries have problems with sudo10:46
DarkWizdomso trying to use su only10:46
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_kuja_sudo passwd -u root && sudo passwd root10:46
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DarkWizdomthanks :)10:46
babavwokohello10:47
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_kuja_hi10:47
Captain_RedbeardHmmm... I wonder if it's possible to do some form of "upgrade" from a 32bit system to 64... sounds a bit dodgy though...10:47
murchadh_bhabaCotRo|eR, http://www.tux.org/~rmorgan/als2000/linux_samba.html do a search for limit and I think it's you're 2nd or 3rd hit in the page (around the middle). I think it's what you wanted.10:47
_kuja_Captain_Redbeard: No, it's not10:47
babavwoko-got stuffs that u guys will luv10:47
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_kuja_Captain_Redbeard: The answer would involve debootstrapping, at which point you're doing all the work yourself anyway, and might as well reinstall to save yourself time10:48
babavwokobeside what do you guys do10:48
Captain_Redbeard_kuja_: Hmm i _must_ be.... :) Just replacing all the installed packages with 64-bit ones10:48
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babavwokohave been using micr prior to this time10:48
Captain_Redbeard_kuja_: exactly! :) I'm well bored and it would probably take me some good 5 hours... a nice way of killing time imo10:48
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_kuja_Captain_Redbeard: so long as you're prepared to hit bumps and problems, by all means go ahead10:49
babavwokothis thread is dead boring10:50
_kuja_Captain_Redbeard: Some progs might have architecture specific configurations, some things in /var might be architecture specific, problems of that nature10:50
babavwokoso liong10:50
_kuja_babavwoko: what thread?10:50
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Captain_Redbeard_kuja_: true true...10:51
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benkong2could someone tell me why knetworkmanager does not keep my wireless key? Edgy fresh install it works fine but makes my enter my 128 bit WEP key each time10:52
BrianSteffensok i have a shared folder on my server (running xubuntu) and am trying to connect to it with my main machine (kubuntu).. i can see the files and read them but cannot modify that folder. when setting up samba shares on the server machine i unchecked read-only. any ideas?10:52
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Captain_RedbeardBrianSteffens: Does the samba user have access to the directory?10:52
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BrianSteffenscaptain_redbeard how do you set up samba users >_<!10:52
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Captain_Redbeardhttp://www.cerritoslug.org/tutorials/samba.html#Adding%20Samba%20Users%20For%20Win9x%20Clients10:53
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BrianSteffenscaptain_redbeard perfect, thank you ^.^10:54
Captain_RedbeardBrianSteffens: no sweat mate :)10:54
nibiHi10:54
Captain_Redbeardhello10:54
nibican anyone please help me fix partition problems?10:54
Captain_Redbeardwe can try ;)10:54
_kuja_Captain_Redbeard: If you're still interested, the solution is something like this: create a folder such as /chroot, debootstrap the 64-bit system in /chroot, delete the original /bin /boot /sbin type of folders, move the ones from /chroot to /, set up networking and other similar things, and hope you didn't miss anything10:54
nibisweet :)10:55
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Captain_Redbeardjust ask your question and if someone can help you... well then that special one will answer ;)10:55
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php-freakdoes kubuntu have a newgroup reader?10:55
=== murchadh_bhaba hopes that he can one day be special.
Captain_Redbeard_kuja_: Yea... I got the procedure working in my head already... I'm just trying to make up my mind if it's worth it or not :D10:55
BrianSteffensMultiple desktops owns me!!! .. that is all10:55
Alter-Egophp-freak akregator10:55
php-freakis it already installed10:56
Captain_Redbeardmurchadh_bhaba: and join the special peoples club? ;)10:56
murchadh_bhabaCaptain_Redbeard, hehe10:56
nibii basically had two partitions on this other HDD (not the one with kubuntu) when i installed kubuntu. Both of them could be accessed in /media as sda1 & sda210:56
php-freak!akregator10:56
_kuja_akregator is already installed, but it's an rss reader . ...10:56
ubotuakregator: RSS feed aggregator for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 669 kB, installed size 2260 kB10:56
php-freakI see10:56
php-freak!newsgroup10:57
nibinow i formatted that hdd in windows and only have one partition10:57
ubotuThere are Ubuntu newsgroups via NNTP at news.gmane.org10:57
php-freakI need a newgroup reader10:57
_kuja_apt-cache search newgroup10:57
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Captain_Redbeardnibi: uhm... So... under windows does it still show up as two partitions?10:57
hattapan10:57
hattapan is a great gui news client10:57
nibibut kubuntu still lists sda1 and sda2 in /media but none of them access the new partition10:57
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hattaworks just like it should10:57
murchadh_bhaba??)10:57
Captain_Redbeardnibi: /etc/fstab10:57
hattareminds me of Agent back in the day10:58
nibicaptain_redbeard: windows sees it fine10:58
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b0nn php-freak: knode10:58
CotRo|eRmurchadh_bhaba: tnx thats what i wanted10:58
nibikubuntu still sees two10:58
Captain_Redbeardnibi: so does Linux i'd say... you just have to set up your /etc/fstab properly to mount the SDx properly10:58
BrianSteffensnibi: look at it in cfdisk to see more details about those partitions?10:58
murchadh_bhabaCotRo|eR, Your welcome!10:58
joecoderI have a backup, but I'm pretty sure that ntfs-3g deleted my home folder in windows xp10:58
_kuja_nibi, pastebin your /etc/fstab10:59
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joecoderthe folder was c:\MyFiles, and I recently renamed it to c:\myfiles, all done in windows xp10:59
murchadh_bhabanibi, at a shell type mount10:59
nibibear with me but i don't know what /etc/fstab is10:59
joecoderI booted into kubuntu then back to windows (no filesystem changes in linux), and I now have two empty MyFiles folders in explorer10:59
b0nnIm trying to upgrade from dapper to edgy, I have got this error invoke-rc.d: initscript hplip, action "start" failed.10:59
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_kuja_!fstab | nibi10:59
ubotunibi: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions10:59
b0nndpkg: error processing hplip (--configure):10:59
b0nn subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 110:59
b0nnIts because my kubuntu is unbootable10:59
php-freak!knode11:00
ubotuknode: KDE news reader. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1195 kB, installed size 2948 kB11:00
Captain_Redbeardnibi: see? Alot of people wanna be your special someone!! ;D11:00
b0nnis there a possible workaround?11:00
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nibithats awesome! first time on this channel11:00
nibinever got better support for windows11:01
nibilol11:01
Captain_Redbeardnibi: That because Linux is a community driven project ;)11:01
_kuja_as for the pastebin I referred to nibi ...11:01
_kuja_!pastebin | nibi11:01
ubotunibi: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)11:01
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Captain_RedbeardHmm let's see if I can find that special one too... I'm actually having a bit of a problem myself... Or two actually... but anyway, it seems that nvclock can't identify my nvidia card nor can it read its settings and what it's clocked too... does anyone have any information regarding this?11:03
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BrianSteffens!pastebin11:04
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)11:04
b0nnphp-freak: oh and there are curses/commandline usenet readers, like tin and slrn11:04
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Captain_Redbeardactually nothing seems to be able to identify it which causes me a fair amount of problems11:04
_kuja_Hmm, my nvclock went and disappeared, pity, I had it before I switched over to the 9631 driver ....11:04
nibikuja: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38168/11:05
BrianSteffenscaptain_redbeard: this is what i got, and i have no idea what it means >_< http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38169/11:05
Captain_Redbeard_kuja_: same goes for the KDE control center... Graphics card: nv   Driver: nvidia :p11:05
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_kuja_Captain_Redbeard: does nvidia-settings identify it?11:06
Captain_RedbeardBrianSteffens: well do you have a user called "test" on the system?11:06
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BrianSteffenscaptain_redbeard nope, do i need to?11:06
Captain_RedbeardBrianSteffens: Preferably ;)11:06
Captain_Redbeard_kuja_: yeah11:06
BrianSteffenscaptain_redbeard lol ok11:07
DarkWizdommaking k3b takes aaaageeeeesssss11:07
DarkWizdom10 mins already O.o11:07
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_kuja_Captain_Redbeard: I would hope that that would be all that mattered, but it sounds like not eh? Did Nvidia not right the nvclock thing?11:07
_kuja_*write11:07
Captain_Redbeard_kuja_: well actually the origin of the problem is that I want my card to send to my TV... which it of course doesn't want to... not in Linux nor Windows, or well I'm not really sure how to set it up in windows so nevermind... but I can't get it to work here either11:08
_kuja_DarkWizdom: it went pretty quick for me ;)11:08
DarkWizdomwhat processor you using? :)11:08
Captain_Redbeard_kuja_: Hmm I don't think so no11:08
DarkWizdomPIII 1200 here :P11:08
dave_can somone please help me install some software tha ti downloaded11:08
_kuja_DarkWizdom: Athlon 64 FX-6011:08
matthew__dave_, hi,  what can I do for you?11:08
dave_hey again11:08
DarkWizdomheheh11:08
matthew__dave_, did you get your sources.list sorted out?11:09
Captain_RedbeardBrianSteffens: and then you've got to make sure that the user you are adding have permissions to write to the directory and you should probably add stuff regarding the user to the smb.conf file aswell11:09
dave_ahh i downloaded flash adn i cant install it!11:09
matthew__dave_, ok, what have you done so far?11:09
_kuja_nibi: I see one ntfs partition in your /etc/fstab file11:09
_kuja_is that what you wanted, or is something up?11:09
Captain_RedbeardDarkWizdom: go compile wine instead and then complain ;)11:09
dave_yep all good intelikey just gave me a complete source code11:09
BrianSteffenscaptain_redbeard ok thanks11:09
murchadh_bhabanibi, Can you tell me what type those (sda1 and sda2) are? I'll try and fix up that /etc/fstab for you.11:09
simenmsn messenfer anyone ?11:09
simenmessenger11:09
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DarkWizdomCaptain_Redbeard: :D11:09
matthew__dave_, cool. So, what have you done so far in regards to flash?11:10
dave_downloaded it and i cant work out how to start (or what to start it in)11:10
simen@hotmail ?11:10
_kuja_Captain_Redbeard: Go run konstruct and then complain ...11:10
nibimurchadh_bhaba: there's only one, sda1 and its NTFS11:10
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matthew__dave_, have you copied/pasted the .so file into your plugins directory?11:10
Captain_Redbeard_kuja_: hah! :D11:10
murchadh_bhabanibi, Sorry, right!11:10
dave_?????ahhh no !!11:10
matthew__dave_, ok, chill out. It only sounds tough11:10
nibimurchadh_bhaba: how would you find out the UUID for a partition11:11
simenMSN MESSENGER ANYONE WHO KNOW ABOUT SKYBOXES SIMEN_99@HOTMAIL.COM PLZ !! :P11:11
matthew__dave_, it would really help if you just answer yes/no...not all this "aaahhh" garbage.11:11
Captain_Redbeardsimen: hmm, please refer from caps11:11
matthew__dave_, ok, open up konqueror11:11
simencaps ?11:11
_kuja_simen: shhhhhhh, be very quiet, I'm hunting n00bs11:11
dave_sorry11:11
Captain_Redbeardsimen: and it's better to help you here since then other people might get helped too11:11
simenlol ok11:11
simenok11:11
murchadh_bhaba!UUID > nibi11:11
matthew__dave_, ok, open up konqueror11:11
Captain_Redbeardsimen: CAPITAL letter :P11:11
simenhow do i get those cool skyboxes i see on youtube.com :P11:12
BluesKaji have a file that refuses to be trashed and i have no need for it ...how can i getrid of it ?11:12
simenSorry :P11:12
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BrianSteffenshaha@kuja11:12
Captain_RedbeardBluesKaj: rm filename ???11:12
simenhow do i get those cool skyboxes i see on youtube.com :P11:12
dave_yep done that bit!11:12
BluesKajit's not included with the kubuntu install pkges11:12
simenso i cant getit ?11:12
Captain_RedbeardBluesKaj: uh?11:13
BrianSteffensblueskaj try using rm in console?11:13
Captain_RedbeardBluesKaj: open a terminal, type rm filename11:13
Captain_RedbeardBluesKaj: if it still messes with you try rm -f filename11:13
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matthew__dave_, ok, now in the address bar in the top type in /11:13
murchadh_bhabanibi, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38170/ use this one! Backup your old one sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bak11:13
simenplz11:13
ipfwI'm having trouble with the KDE menu, when I tell it to add a new item it doesn't seem to save11:13
ipfwanyone seen this ?11:13
BrianSteffensblueskaj and if it STILL messes with you THROW YOUR COMPUTER OUT THE WINDOW MUHAHA11:13
simenheha11:14
ipfwthinking it might be a simple permission error11:14
simenbut skyboxes anyone ?11:14
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Captain_Redbeardsimen: skyboxes?11:14
BluesKajcomedians !11:14
simenyup ?11:14
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matthew__!plugins > matthew11:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about plugins - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:15
dragonfly7I am on a really old computer now, running XFCE. I want to install a more useful GUI, so do you guys think that KDE or GNOME is faster?11:15
Captain_Redbeardsimen: never heard anything about any skyboxes, do you mind explaining what it is?11:15
dave_sorry mathew what am i surposed to be typing in the url bar?11:15
simenill give u a link so u can see11:15
DarkWizdom!skybok11:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about skybok - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:15
BluesKajcannot remove ...it's a direcrory11:15
DarkWizdom!skybox11:15
Captain_Redbearddragonfly7: I would recommend fluxbox11:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about skybox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:15
_kuja_kde and gnome are pretty even in termins of speed, dragonfly711:15
DarkWizdomubotu doesn't know :(11:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about doesn't know :( - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:15
_kuja_!skydome11:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about skydome - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:15
DarkWizdomjajaj11:16
nibimurchadh_bhaba: thanks! i'll give it a try11:16
dave_ok i think i get it / to get to the directory11:16
BrianSteffensubotu doesn't know, now i must find a new religion :(11:16
dragonfly7Captain_Redbeard: Isn't that even more primitive than XFCE?11:16
matthew__!flash > matthew11:16
DarkWizdom:D11:16
_kuja_BrianSteffens: googlism?11:16
Captain_Redbearddragonfly7: I wouldn't say so no...11:16
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BrianSteffens_kuja_ good call!11:16
BluesKajok, how does one remove a directory ?11:16
Captain_Redbearddragonfly7: it's very nifty indeed, and very customizable11:16
BrianSteffensblueskaj rmdir11:16
Captain_RedbeardBluesKaj: rm -r directoryname11:16
dragonfly7Captain_Redbeard: To install it could I use "sudo apt-get install fluxbox-desktop"11:16
Captain_Redbearddragonfly7: Hmm I'm not sure about the packagename to be honest with you, but it seems likely :)11:17
MalfermitaKodoubotu apt11:17
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)11:17
simenCaptain_redbeard : check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGNO2KM3GvA11:17
_kuja_the package would be fluxbox, not fluxbox-desktop11:17
Captain_Redbeard!life11:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about life - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:17
dragonfly7_kuja_: Thanks.11:18
Captain_Redbeard./cry11:18
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spitwiseanyone ppc users here?11:18
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BrianSteffenshaha [14:15]  <ubotu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)11:18
MalfermitaKodoubotu apt-get11:18
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)11:18
simenCaptain check it ! :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGNO2KM3GvA11:18
simenCaptain check it ! :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGNO2KM3GvA11:18
Captain_Redbeardsimen: ah yes11:18
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MalfermitaKodowhat was the command to make apt run after it crashed?11:18
Captain_Redbeardsimen: it's XGL... I wouldn't recommend you trying it out though, it is still in development and fairly tricky to get up and running11:19
matthew__dave_, so sorry, but I've got to go...I'm at work right now.11:19
_kuja_!adeptfix11:19
ubotuIf adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'11:19
dave_ok thanks11:19
BluesKajok gone..thx BrianSteffens11:19
simenshiit :P11:19
simendo u know about any other cool things i can have on my dekstop then ? :P11:19
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DarkWizdomberyl?11:19
Captain_Redbeardsimen: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xgl11:20
rich543Hi, I have a .tar theme and was wondering how do I install it. (1 day new at this) Can't find a theme loader either11:20
MalfermitaKodoty, _kuja_ !11:20
_kuja_yw11:20
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dave_would anyone else be able to help me with flash?11:20
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Captain_RedbeardHrmz... upon booting the system... doesn't the BIOS screen usually show up on the telly if it's plugged in to the gfx card?11:21
simenCaptain_Redbeard: Do u know about any cool things for my desktop that is user friendly ? :P11:21
BrianSteffensok i know how to chown but how can i add permissions to a single user without changing the owner of that folder/file?11:22
Captain_Redbeardsuperkaramba?11:22
simenwhats that ? ^^11:22
dragonfly7simen: They are desktop widget things, like Yahoo's.11:23
simenwhere do i download ?11:23
Captain_Redbeardsimen: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SuperKaramba11:23
Captain_Redbeard!superkaramba11:23
ubotusuperkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org11:23
_kuja_simen: sudo apt-get install superkaramba11:24
_kuja_You can find superkaramba applets at kde-look.org11:24
simenok11:24
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rich543how do I install a theme thats in a .tar?11:24
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_kuja_open up kcontrol, go to appearance -> themes, should be able to install themes from there, rich54311:25
simenwhere do i put the applets ?11:25
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_kuja_simen: wherever you want11:25
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simenk11:25
simenthanx11:25
rich543thanks kuja11:26
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BluesKajI'm making a list of shell commands and I'd like the script for updating the thr kubuntu Distro like the one jende showed me for updating to Edgy from Dapper , ...or is there (K)ubuntu page that has the script ?11:27
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_kuja_whoa, spinning around a tranparent inside beryl-cube is insane11:27
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BluesKaj_kuja_, get a life ! :)11:27
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_kuja_BluesKaj: Are they expensive?11:28
snaker2002hola alguien espaol?11:28
BluesKajdepends ..if you have kids and a house and car etc ...it can be11:28
BluesKaj!es11:28
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.11:28
snaker2002gracias11:28
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Realistic_Dragondont suppose anyone here owns a tech company in the US do they? :P11:29
matthew__Realistic_Dragon, why do you ask?11:29
BrianSteffenshow can i specify a usergroup when using chmod ?11:29
DarkWizdomit's aliiiiive! k3b works! better than expected! :)11:30
matthew__BrianSteffens, you can you chown to specify a username11:30
Realistic_Dragongot another job rejection because of ITAR matthew, need to get out of the defense industry :)11:30
matthew__ITAR?11:30
matthew__Realistic_Dragon, ITAR?11:30
BrianSteffensmatthew__ so chown, then chmod to set permission for one person, then do it again for another person?11:30
Realistic_Dragoninformation transfer something or other, its restrictions on foreign nationals working on US defense projects :)11:31
matthew__matthew, naw, chown is to change the owner of the file/dir...chmod sets the permissions for the file/dir11:31
matthew__BrianSteffens,  naw, chown is to change the owner of the file/dir...chmod sets the permissions for the file/dir11:31
matthew__BrianSteffens, for all users, I think11:31
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matthew__Realistic_Dragon, ah, that makes sense...11:32
BrianSteffensmatthew__ so there is no way to set permissions different for different users?11:32
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CotRo|eRHow do you check whick ports you have opened with iptables or whatever it is???11:32
matthew__BrianSteffens, you can make the user part of a usergroup, and make the usergroup have certain permissions...11:32
Realistic_DragonCotRo|eR: iptables -L11:32
matthew__CotRo|eR, calm down11:32
Realistic_DragonCotRo|eR: might be easier to scan your comp from another machine though with nmap11:33
BrianSteffensmatthew__ yeah that's what i'm asking, how do i specify a usergroup in the chmod command?11:33
CotRo|eRtnx :)11:33
matthew__BrianSteffens, not sure...lol, sorry!11:33
BrianSteffensmatthew__ ok thanks anyway11:34
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CotRo|eRRealistic_Dragon: hmm tried that, it only shows chain input, output, etc,11:34
Realistic_Dragonthats all you get really, you have to infer the rest... or test it11:34
murchadh_bhabaBrianSteffens, Are you looking for chgrp?11:34
_kuja_!permission | BrainSteffens11:34
ubotuBrainSteffens: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux11:34
Realistic_Dragonor use something like firestarter which gives more information11:35
_kuja_I think guarddog is the kde equivalent, but I've never bothered ...11:35
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jimboI just hit a huge snag.  I have 3000+ files I copied from a windows server to my linux laptop, but I need the files in lowercase, as they're all uppercase.  Is tehre a batch renaming tool available to autorename all these?11:36
Realistic_Dragonjimbo: you can probably do it with a shell script :)11:36
Realistic_Dragonhttp://openchemist.net/linux/howto.php?id=com00711:37
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Realistic_Dragonif you have no backup use that at your own risk11:37
Realistic_Dragon:P11:37
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BrianSteffensmuchadh_bhaba oo maybe i'll google it11:38
_kuja_jimbo: krename11:38
matthew___kuja_, why have a guard dog protecting a castle? lol, you know?11:38
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BrianSteffens_kuja_ yea man spring for the jaguar11:38
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statesidelaCan anyone tell me howto get into #ubuntu-xgl i am new to irc11:38
_kuja_matthew__: maybe it's a three headed guard dog that breaths fire?11:38
statesidelaPlease311:38
jimbothanks guys11:39
_kuja_Stalwart: /j #ubuntu-xgl11:39
_kuja_oops11:39
_kuja_statesidela:11:39
_kuja_meant....... darn11:39
_kuja_I guess my new toy the tab feature that is isn't case sensitive .... it should be11:39
statesidela? you can help me kuja11:40
_kuja_possibly11:40
ipfwso, on one else has had issues writing to the KDE menu ?11:40
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Stalwart=P11:40
statesidelahow can i get into #ubuntu-xgl kuja?11:40
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BrianSteffensstatesidela /join #ubuntu-xgl?11:41
dave_is anyone able to help me installing flash?11:41
statesidelathatnk you Brian11:41
Stalwartstatesidela: use good irc client, konversation is fine for kde11:41
Realistic_Dragon_kuja_: I know a sysadmin who used to have RM linked as RenaMe on his multiuser machine just to upset people who didnt understand CaSeSeNsItIvE ;)11:41
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_kuja_hahahaha11:42
statesidelai am using kconvo11:42
rich543when I try sudo apt-get install SuperKaramba it says 'couldn't find package'11:42
fdovingrich543: try all lowercase letters.11:42
StalwartRealistic_Dragon: http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/archive/mundane-name11:42
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_kuja_Realistic_Dragon: That's just brilliant .... I'd love to do something like that ... but I'm the only user of this machine :(11:43
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rich543all lower case, still the same11:43
_kuja_rich543: funny, we were just talking about case sensitivity11:43
Realistic_Dragonslightly evil :P11:43
bLaZeDanyone know of a good newsgroup client.....so i can veiw and dl off binary newsgroups?11:43
Stalwart:D11:43
Realistic_DragonbLaZeD: I use knode (in kontact) but not for binaries11:44
Realistic_Dragonlol Stalwart11:44
bLaZeDRealistic_Dragon, is it capable of doing binarys?11:44
_kuja_knode?11:44
statesidelaman no one is in #ubuntu-xgl how can i find more help with some beryl troubles?11:44
Realistic_Dragonactually havent checked sorry bLaZeD i assume so, itll be installed any way so you can try it out :)11:44
bLaZeD!knode11:44
ubotuknode: KDE news reader. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1195 kB, installed size 2948 kB11:44
_kuja_try #beryl11:44
Realistic_Dragonotherwise try adept for 'news'11:44
statesidelaty11:44
rich543not sure what I can do otherwise, tried lowercase to11:45
Realistic_Dragon!kontact11:45
ubotukontact: KDE pim application. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1574 kB, installed size 3400 kB11:45
Realistic_Dragonoh, thought it was a default install :)11:45
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bLaZeDRealistic_Dragon, ahh k im actualy asking for a freind...maby i can find a free good newsgroup with some sorta binary11:45
bLaZeDbut thanks guys :-)11:45
ironfroggy_LThow do i give a negated option to find?11:45
_kuja_rich543: superkaramba is in universe, I think11:45
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ironfroggy_LTfor example, im trying to filter out all files that have _darcs in the path11:45
_kuja_!universe | rich54311:45
uboturich543: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu11:45
dennisterhey bLaZeD, _kuja_ :) anyone know how to insert url links in a wiki page real quick? brand new to this :)11:46
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Realistic_DragonbLaZeD: there are 167 different newsreaders available in the kubuntu repos ;)11:46
BrianSteffensok i still don't have write access to my shared folder on server.. i've set up an smb user on the server, added it to group filestorage, chown the shared folder to usergroup filestorage, and chmod to +rwx11:46
_kuja_167 ..... jeeze11:46
_kuja_overkill much?11:46
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Realistic_Dragon!aub11:47
ubotuaub: Assembles binary files from USENET. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2 (edgy), package size 57 kB, installed size 196 kB11:47
bLaZeDRealistic_Dragon, hehe my freind is a noob and doesnt even know what distro he is using lol...so im kinda flying blnd here11:47
bLaZeD:)11:47
Realistic_Dragon!klibido11:47
ubotuklibido: usenet binary grabber for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.5-2ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 411 kB, installed size 1336 kB11:47
Realistic_Dragontry that on11:47
Realistic_Dragone11:47
bLaZeDahh hthanks!11:47
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hudsyhii!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11:47
_kuja_hello again11:47
Realistic_Dragonlol _kuja_ it seems that half of those are emacs modes :D11:47
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BrianSteffenshudsy seems awfully happy lol11:48
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hudsyi have a question.... how to erase a folder with the console??11:48
Stalwarthudsy: rm -rf11:48
hudsyok11:48
_kuja_or rmdir11:48
hudsythanks11:48
Realistic_Dragonwait!11:48
Realistic_Dragonthats a nasty comand11:48
hudsy...11:48
Stalwartrm -rf /11:48
Stalwart=P11:49
Realistic_Dragoncheck it before you hit enter11:49
_kuja_evil11:49
hudsya've done rm11:49
Realistic_Dragonas it deleted with *no* confirmation11:49
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hudsybut it says tat its a dyrectory11:49
_kuja_Don't do the rm -rf / .... ever11:49
Realistic_Dragon-rf forces it to ignore that11:49
hudsyok11:49
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Realistic_Dragon-r = recursive (into directories)11:49
Realistic_Dragonand -f is force11:49
dennisterno one edits wiki pages here? i gotta be wrong in that...11:50
_kuja_rm -r = delete a folder and everything in it, -f forces it to do it with  no questions asked11:50
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Realistic_Dragonits fine to use just be aware of what you are asking it to delete :)11:50
_kuja_dennister: I've edited one once, but that was weeks ago, and it was only once11:50
Realistic_Dragonyou can use pwd to double check where you are11:50
hudsyyou are the best!!11:50
murchadh_bhabadennister, [[whateverlink] ] ?11:50
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dennisterok...i've been avoiding it too :)11:51
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soulriderhi everyone11:51
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_kuja_hi soulrider11:51
BrianSteffenswhy is sudo chown brian:brian /media/storage -R doing nothing?11:51
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dennistermurchadh_bhaba: so I type the word that will show, then http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=url?11:51
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dennisteroh shoot...meant <word showing> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=whateverurl?11:52
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dennisterlol...11:52
Panalol11:52
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murchadh_bhabadennister, [[Thiswillshow|http://link.link.link] ] 11:53
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dennisterahhh...thank you! :)11:53
Panahey guys11:53
Panawhy do both windows and linux hate me11:53
Pana:(11:53
dennisternot as much as they hate me, heheheh11:53
BrianSteffenspana windows hates everyone11:53
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shaggswindows hates me11:54
_kuja_without discrimination11:54
Panatrue11:54
Panaso11:54
dennisterthat's because we're all pirates :)11:54
PanaI am an linuckz noob11:54
shaggsand i hate windows11:54
_kuja_Arrr11:54
BrianSteffenspana and linux needs you to romance it a lot before it will like you11:54
shaggsbut it is still necesarry11:54
PanaI  have had it installed for a while but am only using it now because windows kicked me in the balls11:54
dbglthrmm, for what reason are packages 'kept back'? I'm using fiery, and packages like openoffice are kept back when I upgrade. IS there a way to find out why?11:54
Panadso11:55
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BrianSteffens!pastebin11:55
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)11:55
Panahow do i install all the multimedia packages11:55
Panaerm11:55
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Panalike mp3 wmv playback and such11:55
Pana-_-11:55
_kuja_Pana: piece of cake11:55
Panayea11:55
_kuja_!multimedia | Pana11:55
ubotuPana: For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications11:55
Panapiece of coding cake11:55
BrianSteffenscan someone help me figure out what i'm doing wrong? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38171/11:55
_kuja_!mp3 | Pana11:55
ubotuPana: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:55
PanaOH GOD11:55
Panak11:55
Panaif linux rapes me11:56
PanaI blame you11:56
_kuja_You do that.11:56
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SchuenemannLjL: hey, you told me to ask you for the boot fix :-] 11:57
murchadh_bhabaBrianSteffens, Try sudo chown -R brian /media/storage11:57
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LjLSchuenemann: right, sure. one moment, i'll grep the logs11:57
BrianSteffensmurchadh_bhaba same thing T_T11:58
Schuenemannthanks11:58
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hudsyand an other..(excuse me...i do 100000 because i am noob) how to move a file or directory from a folder to an other??11:58
BrianSteffensmurcadh_bhaba hm, just tried sudo mkdir hi and it returned no error but didn't create the directory either11:59
BrianSteffenshudsy: mv11:59
hudsyand select the directory??11:59
BrianSteffenshudsy oh, in konqueror?12:00
hudsybut it says i havnt permision12:00
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Schuenemanntype kdesu konqueror12:00
Schuenemannthen try to move again12:00
LjLSchuenemann: sudo dosfsck -ar /dev/whatever-the-right-partition-is (the FAT one)12:00
murchadh_bhabaBrianSteffens, Can you cd to root, and run the commands with full paths, just to be sure. First off let's check current permissions, ls -als /media12:00
fenerbahchei have difficulties to understand display event, we have x,kdm,kde etc....anybody help me to understand relation it...12:01
SchuenemannLjL: the partition that has the boot?12:01
LjLSchuenemann: when it asks, tell it to replace the backup with the original, *unless* it gives you some strange messages, in which case hold12:01
hudsyfailed to open device12:01
SchuenemannI mean grub installed12:01
hudsyfailed to open device12:01
LjLSchuenemann: no, just the partition that has a FAT filesystem on it12:01
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Schuenemannthe FAT is in another HD12:01
BrianSteffensmurchadh_bhaba: storage comes up as 4 drwxr-xr-x 4 root filestorage12:01
Schuenemannwhich isn't the master12:01
murchadh_bhabaBrianSteffens, Is this a partition on a drive?12:02
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Panahow do i enable multiverse with adept12:03
Panait doesnt say in the guide12:03
hudsyi'm trying to install java but i m desesperated12:03
BrianSteffensmurchadh_bhaba: yes, /dev/hda1 is mounted to /media/storage12:03
hudsy!!12:03
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SchuenemannLjL: you said copy original to backup?12:03
hudsy!!12:03
murchadh_bhabaBrianSteffens, And /ev/hda1 is a type ?12:03
fenerbahche!kde12:04
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE12:04
BrianSteffensmurchadh_bhaba a type? i don't understand12:04
murchadh_bhabaBrianSteffens, ntfs, fat32, ext312:04
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VSpikeI'm a long time Outlook user, and I have a lot of contacts, mail and tasks stored in Outlook.  I also have a Pocket PC (Windows) that I need to sync with my PIM. At the moment I am running VMWare w/ WinXP just to use Outlook.  Have I got any chance of migrating?12:04
LjLSchuenemann: "overwrite the backup with the original", i think it goes12:05
BrianSteffensmurchadh_bhaba: ext312:05
LjLi.e., yes, copy original to backup12:05
Schuenemannsorry, bad english12:05
Panaok12:05
Panahow do i get synaptic instead of adept onto Kubuntu12:05
glglglfkfksajPana, "sudo apt-get install synaptic"12:06
Panaalright12:06
murchadh_bhabaBrianSteffens, What options are in /etc/fstab for it?12:06
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Schuenemannit's done, thank you12:06
VSpikeI was thinking about Crossover Office, but I don't think I will be able to sync with the PPC then12:06
BrianSteffensmurchadh_bhaba: defaults, errors=remount-ro12:06
nontitleVspike, there should be a program that syncs with the pocketPC12:07
Panaunable to  get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock open12:07
nontitleVspike, just use synaptic or adept and search pocketpc or ppc12:07
VSpikenontitle: probably not from Outlook running on WINE though12:07
nontitle...oh.12:07
VSpikenontitle: there are some which sync with kmail and/or evolution I think#12:07
nontitleyeah, thats what i mean12:08
VSpikenontitle: I have installed them to experiment, although none of them seem to want to work right away without some fiddling12:08
murchadh_bhabaBrianSteffens, You could try adding umask=000, after defaults. umount the drive, mount the drive, try again.12:08
nontitlekind of like using gtkpod instead of iTunes12:08
VSpikenontitle: I'm not sure how easily I can migrate the data to kmail or evolution though12:08
BrianSteffensmurchadh_bhaba: so defaults,umask=000,errors=remount-ro?12:08
nontitlei'm not sure either12:08
VSpikeI think I can do mail and contacts by going via Thunderbird for windows, which uses an mbox format12:09
nontitlePana, you're sure apt isn't running?12:09
hudsyrestart X12:09
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murchadh_bhabaBrianSteffens, Yes, then save it, sudo umount /dev/hda1, sudo mount /dev/hda1, try and create a file or directory.12:09
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hudsypana: restart X ( ctrl+alt+backspace)12:10
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yelonek!spore12:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about spore - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:11
ipfwwhat file(s) does kde store its K menu settings in ?12:11
Schuenemann!k12:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about k - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:12
BrianSteffensmurchadh_bhaba after adding umask=000 the drive appears not to be mounted when i restarted12:12
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