[12:15] <ironfroggy_LT> i have to boot one of my non-old boxes with LILO on a floppy because neither LILO or GRUB will work right with the harddrive.
[12:15] <BluesKaj> don't think he knows how
[12:15] <JohnFlux> _kuja_: thanks!
[12:15] <_kuja_> (with fingers crossed)
[12:16] <_kuja_> Well, someone had best tell him, any volunteers?
[12:16] <towync> does anyone know why when i play .wmv file with caffeine, i only get sound
[12:17] <adz21c> towync: maybe y need to install the vid codec?
[12:17] <adz21c> u*
[12:17] <eilker> towync: u need plug-in, try pls from kaffeine menu
[12:17] <BluesKaj> towync, try mplayer
[12:18] <_kuja_> towync, you might need w32codecs. Another possible solution is to use mplayer (rc1 or later)
[12:18] <towync> thanks guys, for all the tip, could u tell me where to get mplayer BluesKaj
[12:18] <towync> and where do i get the vid codecs
[12:18] <towync> =)
[12:18] <_kuja_> Install kmplayer and then you can use mplayer as a backend for kaffeine
[12:18] <BluesKaj> it should be in the kicker
[12:18] <eilker> !codecs
[12:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:18] <towync> thanks eilker
[12:18] <towync> thanks _kuja_
[12:18] <eilker> i hope, it helps
[12:19] <_kuja_> indeed
[12:19] <towync> i'll go look at these =)
[12:19] <towync> thx
[12:19] <towync> o, and what's kicker
[12:20] <BluesKaj> sorry towync , the K-menu
[12:20] <_kuja_> kicker is the panel, usually along the bottom unless you moved it
[12:21] <_kuja_> alrighty then, now I've got k3b 1.0rc2 & growisof7 :) Happy days
[12:21] <jerp> anyone have a good howto on dchroot-ing w32codecs?
[12:21] <_kuja_> !chroot
[12:21] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[12:21] <jerp> I've been through a couple links on the  ~/
[12:22] <jerp> RestrictedFormats site
[12:22] <jerp> thanks kuja
[12:22] <Rob-West> im just gonna install Ubuntu
[12:22] <_kuja_> what codecs are you needing w32codecs for, if it's only wmv then you won't need a chroot
[12:22] <Rob-West> cuz i do miss gnome
[12:23] <BluesKaj> din't bother with that wiki , i just installed the X86 32bit version of dapper than a few mos later upgraded to edgy
[12:23] <BluesKaj> <---AMD64
[12:23] <jerp> I'm amd64
[12:24] <yelonek> can sb help me with this error ? http://wklej.org/id/b07c500bb1
[12:25] <BluesKaj> what is it about linux users , they can't stand windoze or intel ? :)
[12:26] <yelonek> I'm trying to install Cedega
[12:26] <_kuja_> I don't mind intel persay, but windoze I can't tolerate for more than about 30 seconds at a time.
[12:27] <lupine_85> intel are teh 3vilz!!!
[12:27] <lupine_85> :p
[12:28] <_kuja_> 30 seconds .... usually windows doesn't have time to crash in 30 seconds, though I wouldn't hold my breath.
[12:28] <lupine_85> nah, excepting core duo, amd are just better technically
[12:28] <_kuja_> I wouldn't mind getting a core2 duo, but It's going to be a long time til I upgrade again.
[12:29] <lupine_85> intel are obsessed with clock speed.. .which is the wrong way to go about it
[12:30] <_kuja_> Yes, but the core2 seems to have fixed that problem ... lowered the clock speed, it runs cooler than the athlon 64s, and consumes less power :(
[12:30] <JohnFlux> _kuja_: isn't the whole consumes less power shown to be a myth?
[12:30] <_kuja_> I don't know, I haven't looked into it lately
[12:30] <JohnFlux> athlon's have 1/3 of the idle power usage, but high peak usage
[12:31] <_kuja_> Ah
[12:31] <JohnFlux> but since it's idle most of the time, it quickly adds up that athlons use less power
[12:34] <tamacracker> Does anyone know that program from Gnome "networking tools"
[12:34] <tamacracker> that lets you ping computers
[12:35] <jonny_> How do I make my SD card not read only?
[12:35] <tamacracker> and get information on them
[12:35] <tamacracker> #ubuntu
[12:36] <Red-Sox> The SD card is at /media/SANVOL
[12:37] <_kuja_> tamacracker, I've not seen anything quite like that one, but I'll take a look
[12:37] <VR_> how do i install msttcorefonts on 6.10? which repos do i need for that package?
[12:37] <Red-Sox> ...
[12:37] <_kuja_> VR, you need multiverse
[12:38] <VR_> it looks like i have multiverse enabled
[12:39] <VR_> i actually uncommented everything in sources.list
[12:39] <_kuja_> might be nettool tamacracker
[12:39] <jerp> kuja, what line is it that I add '--arch i386' to?
[12:39] <tamacracker> nettool.. ok :D
[12:39] <_kuja_> VR_: do a sudo apt-get update and see if that makes a difference
[12:39] <VR_> _kuja_: i did
[12:39] <tzbishop> I saw that kubuntu`s package have a i386 on the name. I have a pentium-4. Is my system going to be much slower than if I had a suse with i586 packages
[12:40] <_kuja_> jerp: I think you do that when you're debootstrapping
[12:40] <_kuja_> tzbishop, the difference is negligible
[12:40] <VR_> i wonder if there's an good sources.list around for edgy like source-o-matic
[12:40] <VR_> a*
[12:41] <_kuja_> VR_ my sources.list isn't half bad if you want it :)
[12:41] <VR_> let's see it
[12:42] <avalon_> Anyone know how to get a USB touchscreen monitor to work?
[12:42] <tamacracker> i have nettool but i can't find it.
[12:42] <tzbishop> _kuja_: no matter installing kubuntu on a pentium-4 then
[12:43] <_kuja_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38001/ VR_
[12:43] <pj_> #asp
[12:43] <coreymon77> hi guys
[12:44] <_kuja_> hi coreymon77
[12:44] <Red-Sox> How do I make my SD card not read only?
[12:44] <tzbishop> media:/ on konqueror isn`t available only on live-cd, right
[12:44] <tzbishop> ?
[12:44] <_kuja_> tzbishop, it probably is, but I think media:/ was dropped altogether in Edgy
[12:45] <VR_> _kuja_: thanks
[12:45] <coreymon77> the firend i was talking about last night has installed dapper
[12:45] <coreymon77> although
[12:45] <tzbishop> _kuja_: dropped? there`s no media:/ available anymore? (sorry, not native)
[12:45] <coreymon77> since we have so much school stuff to do, he doesnt want to start getting used to kubuntu until the second week on the winter break
[12:45] <jerp> it's loading it all in there... dang
[12:46] <coreymon77> so he wants to know how he can edit the grub sequence so that windows is the default boot
[12:46] <coreymon77> for now
[12:46] <_kuja_> Red-Sox, navigate to /media in konq, right click on the SD card, go to the far right tab and make sure RO isn't checked
[12:46] <coreymon77> so that if he doesnt touch the keys for 10 seconds, it boots windows
[12:46] <_kuja_> tzbishop, I do recall it was because there wasn't much advantage in having media:/ when all you had to do is go to /media anyway.
[12:46] <coreymon77> he wants that for now
[12:47] <otaku-san> coreymon77: I know this is probably not helpful...but don't you do that at the grub boot?  You press some F1-F12 key and type a command
[12:47] <VR_> _kuja_: how do i get the "pubkey" for that sources.list ?
[12:47] <tzbishop> _kuja_: Kubuntu automount devices like DVDs, CDs, etc. right?
[12:47] <coreymon77> i dunno
[12:47] <coreymon77> otaku-san: thats why i asking people here
[12:48] <_kuja_> VR_, the main public key is mentioned in most of the http://kubuntu.org postitings (well, any that are software related)
[12:48] <avalon_> Can someone tell me where Kubuntu hunts it's input modules at? I've got a driver I need to put in that folder
[12:48] <Red-Sox> I need to run konq as root
[12:48] <_kuja_> And that would be Riddel's key ...
[12:48] <Red-Sox> sudo konqureour
[12:48] <VR_> _kuja_: thanks
[12:48] <_kuja_> and my typing is horrible lately :(
[12:48] <otaku-san> coreymon77: from what I can remember...to change your default OS at boot is pretty simple....let me find a doc on it for you
[12:48] <lupine_85> avalon_: kernel or xorg modules?
[12:49] <avalon_> xorg
[12:49] <lupine_85>  /usr/lib/xorg
[12:49] <avalon_> Okay, thanks lupine_85 :)
[12:49] <lupine_85> correction: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input
[12:50] <VR_> _kuja_: where did you copy your sources.list from?
[12:50] <_kuja_> VR_ I wrote it myself
[12:50] <jerp> kuja, is it correct to assume I should remove breezy out of this if I'm using 6.06? .....  sudo sed -i s/dapper/breezy/g /var/chroot/etc/apt/sources.list
[12:50] <VR_> cool
[12:51] <_kuja_> jerp: yeah, if it mentions breezy anywhere in a howto or something, you can safely replace it with dapper or edgy (unless you want your chroot to be running breezy)
[12:51] <tzbishop> Is kubuntu on HD faster than live-cd or the same thing?
[12:52] <_kuja_> tzbishop: much faster on HD
[12:52] <jerp> kuja thanks :)
[12:52] <_Ace2016_> live cd would be faster if you have enough ram, like how knoppix has the option to load into ram before starting up
[12:52] <_Ace2016_> the initial read from the cd is slow but thereafter its fast
[12:53] <_Ace2016_> no wait i change my mind the hard disk is faster
[12:53] <_kuja_> True, but you have similar caching when running from HD.
[12:53] <goodthing> if you want to make a software raid1, does do the disk then have to go on the raid ports on the motherboard or does that not matter
[12:53] <_Ace2016_> _kuja_: yea just thought of that
[12:54] <goodthing> woops, my English again
[12:54] <_kuja_> goodthing, it won't matter for software RAID
[12:54] <_Ace2016_> goodthing: don't think it matters, all that has to happen is for kubuntu's alternative installer disk to see both hard drives
[12:54] <_kuja_> If you want to use FakeRAID, you'd have to use th e RAID ports on the motherboard, assuming you can't do it with the other ports.
[12:55] <goodthing> _kuja_: but it is possible to still use those ports right? (easier to seperate that way)
[12:55] <_kuja_> Probably, just make sure you have that controller turned on in the BIOS
[12:55] <goodthing> *separate
[12:55] <pacman> anyone know an equalizer that I can download?  The one on VLC sucks
[12:56] <goodthing> alright, thanks guys
[12:56] <_kuja_> amarok has an equalizer :)
[12:56] <pacman> <-----deleted amarok since it wouldn't play most of the stuff I was downloading
[12:56] <_kuja_> Kaffeine has an equalizer too
[12:57] <_kuja_> What did those "most things" consist of anyway?
[12:57] <_kuja_> !multimedia | pacman
[12:57] <ubotu> pacman: For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[12:57] <LBB_> BluesKaj: Are you still here? You just recommended me GAG for unhiding a partition. The GAG FAQ says : use fdisk, but neither the fdisk manual nor the sfdisk manual mentions hiding/unhiding. Should I be looking for another term?
[12:58] <otaku-san> coreymon77: ok found what you want!  You need to change up this file. /boot/grub/menu.lst  Make sure to back it up by saving a second copy, name it something a little different, then put this ~ at the end.
[01:00] <otaku-san> coreymon77: Then do this (this is from a forum entry) That did the trick, you have to modify more than one file, I set a ROOT login and opened the BOOT files and changed the boot/grub/menu-normal.lst, boot/grub/menu-hdb=hd1.lst The default was 3 for me since windows was the 4th in the list, Freespire being 0. I then deleted all the back-up files, ran the command: chmod a-x /sbin/jiffy* from a ROOT Konsole window and presto! If you use a full ROOT us
[01:00] <otaku-san> er, you can just open the /boot/grub menu from Konqueror and then double click the files and they open in KWRITE ready to edit.
[01:00] <otaku-san> Sorry guys....almost flooded
[01:00] <LBB_> Any one know anything about hiding/unhiding partitions? unhide (hd0,1) gives me a disk not found message, and so does cfdisk
[01:01] <_kuja_> LBB_, what sort of partition is it, when did you create it, is there anything on it?
[01:04] <BluesKaj> LBB , GAG doesn't list the hd0,1 ?
[01:04] <BluesKaj> LBB, how many partitions does it list ?
[01:04] <LBB_> _kuja_: it is a partition of 6 mb before my boot partition
[01:05] <BluesKaj> LBB, did you have version of windows on the oc before you decided to install linux ?
[01:05] <LBB_> BluesKaj: I don't have GAG, but while reading the faq i saw it reccomends fdisk for unhiding
[01:06] <BluesKaj> oc=pc
[01:06] <jerp> should I build a debian chroot on Kubuntu?
[01:06] <conn> hi, I'm running kubuntu and have the human theme installed on my system. I want gnome apps to use the human theme, how do I do it?
[01:06] <jerp> <--- newb
[01:07] <BluesKaj> LBB, I'll bet it's the windows recovery partition, it's the right size
[01:08] <LBB_> BluesKaj: I had a working dual boot for about a year, but then i needed space on my / so I uninstalled apache, wich broke mysql, wich made the system unbootable.
[01:09] <LBB_>  out of concern for my housemates I wanted to make the windows the default boot until i figured out how to fix it, so i did hide(0.1). Now I know that was not wise
[01:10] <LBB_> BluesKaj: what is the win rec part?
[01:10] <BluesKaj>  LBB, the windows recovery is hidden so it can't be changed , you need the recovery cd to boot into it . Once you rever windows , then you can recover your bootloader or MBR , then you can proceed to install GRUB to get your Linux parition to boot again ...it's a roundabout way but i think it might work
[01:11] <_kuja_> why not just install grub from the live cd?
[01:11] <BluesKaj> where is he going to install it _kuja_ ?
[01:12] <_kuja_> in the hard drives MBR?
[01:12] <BluesKaj> have to check the postmail ...bbiab
[01:12] <BluesKaj> how?
[01:12] <LBB_> BluesKaj: what is the win rec part and how do i boot into it?
[01:14] <_kuja_> LBB_, I think BluesKaj said that you would have to use the Windows install/recovery cd to boot into that.
[01:15] <LBB_> kuja: I don't have one available.
[01:15] <genii> Has anyone compiled Conexant HSF or HCF "winmodem" drivers under Edgy yet? (have to keep asking :)  )
[01:15] <_kuja_> That doesn't help any LBB_
[01:16] <_kuja_> what device is your hard drive (ie: /dev/hd?)
[01:16] <LBB_> kuja hda
[01:16] <LBB_> kuja hda1
[01:16] <_kuja_> you could probably just do a "sudo grub-install /dev/hda" from the live cd to fix grub, I would presume.
[01:17] <LBB_> kuja hda1 is the partition I made hidden (by hide (hd0,1)
[01:18] <LBB_> kuja: I'm willing to try that, but i didn't really change anything about my grub, just made a partition hidden (not sure tho)
[01:18] <_kuja_> And hda1 has nothing terribly important (like your linux root/boot partition, right?)
[01:19] <dominik_> hello guys, I have a computer in my study that I would like to install Linux on, but whenever I run the liveCD on it, it tell me that no wireless device is found. But when I use the other computer in the living room, that one picks the wireless usb device on the back of the computer
[01:19] <LBB_> no hda1 is a 6MB free partition before hda2, my boot
[01:19] <_kuja_> LBB_ then I would assume it (shouldn't) matter
[01:20] <dominik_> is there a way I can make the computer in my study recognize the wireless usb?
[01:20] <_kuja_> !wireless ...... might work
[01:20] <dominik_> ...because, I would like to make the one in my study permanently running on linux
[01:20] <LBB_> kuja: another strange thing is that hda5, my home is  of an unknown type acording to qtparted
[01:20] <_kuja_> !wireless
[01:20] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:21] <BluesKaj> LBB, 6mb oh... definitely not windows recovery
[01:21] <_kuja_> LBB_, lets see if parted knows at all
[01:21] <_kuja_> sudo parted /dev/hda print
[01:21] <LBB_> kuja: what do you mean?
[01:21] <LBB_> ah
[01:22] <_kuja_> QTParted apparantly isn't as intelligent as parted is, unfortunately
[01:22] <_kuja_> qtparted spent the longest time without a maintainer if I remember right
[01:23] <LBB_> should I paste here?
[01:23] <BluesKaj> QTParted is like partition magic. it can do damage without warning
[01:23] <dope_> ok here's a simple question: i have a url for a wmv file.  how do i download it?
[01:23] <_kuja_> BluesKag, kind of like the time I tried to resize an XFS partition
[01:24] <goodthing> dope_: wget URL
[01:24] <_kuja_> !pastebin | LBB_
[01:24] <ubotu> LBB_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:24] <dope_> thx
[01:24] <LBB_> dope: just open konqueror and type the url
[01:24] <dope_> i do and it plays it
[01:24] <dope_> ok i wget
[01:24] <dope_> now what
[01:25] <dope_> where'd it save it
[01:25] <_kuja_> in your home folder, probably
[01:25] <circ> anyone know how to make konqueror folders auto refresh after deleting stuff?
[01:26] <dominik_> ubotu: thanks for the link. But when I open the Network Settings Window, it detects my ethernet connection, but it does not show my wireless connection...
[01:26] <[D] aRk_[B] aN> salve ragazzi
[01:26] <[D] aRk_[B] aN> ^_^
[01:26] <_kuja_> dominik_ ubotu is only a bot
[01:26] <[D] aRk_[B] aN> ragazzi avrei un grosso enorme problema
[01:27] <dominik_> ...hmmm
[01:27] <[D] aRk_[B] aN> no speack italian?
[01:27] <BluesKaj> !it
[01:27] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:27] <LBB_> kuja: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38010/plain/
[01:27] <[D] aRk_[B] aN> BluesKaj :** tnx
[01:29] <_kuja_> dominik_: try posting about the problem in the hardware section of ubuntu forums, you might get lucky.
[01:29] <BluesKaj> prego
[01:29] <_kuja_> spaghetti sauce?
[01:29] <LBB_> BTW: does going on the internet with a live-CD make me a sitting duck?
[01:30] <_kuja_> LBB_ Well, no ports are opened, so you should be reasonably safe. Linux's built in firewall iptables isn't too shabby.
[01:30] <goodthing> LBB_: you are root in live and that is not optimal
[01:30] <LBB_> kuja: thanks, did you see my pastebin?
[01:31] <dominik_> _kuja_: thanks, am still new so I would like to know how to get to the hardware section of the forum
[01:31] <LBB_> goodthing: what do I do about that?
[01:31] <_kuja_> LBB_, I think I missed it?
[01:31] <goodthing> or am i wrong here?
[01:31] <LBB_> kuja: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38010/plain/
[01:31] <_kuja_> in the live cd  you're not root.
[01:31] <_kuja_> But you can gain root access without a password, which certainly isn't optimal.
[01:32] <goodthing> yes, that was it
[01:32] <LBB_> kuja: I do gat to do sudo, so I'm smei-root, right?
[01:32] <_kuja_> dominik_: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=136
[01:32] <dominik_> thanks _kuja_
[01:32] <LBB_> gat=get
[01:32] <_kuja_> LBB_: that's my point, you can use sudo without a password, though you're still not root.
[01:33] <LBB_> kuja: so what do I do?
[01:33] <_kuja_> one sec, I'm looking at that
[01:34] <LBB_> kuja: didn;t mean tu rush you, just curious about the root thing
[01:34] <_kuja_> LBB_: well, you can set a user password by opening a terminal and typing passwd
[01:35] <_kuja_> As for else, it doesn't seem to think that hidden partition exists, it says th at your first ntfs partition starts at 32kb.
[01:35] <_kuja_> It looks like it sees everything else though.
[01:36] <_kuja_> Hmm, on a miscellaneous sidenote, looks like Qtopia 4.2 has been released as OSS code.
[01:36] <fribuntu> Hi all,
[01:36] <_kuja_> hello fribuntu
[01:37] <fribuntu> Can someone explain to me, why packages.freecontrib.org is down? I cannot find any explanations.
[01:37] <_kuja_> how long has it been down?
[01:37] <fribuntu> All they provide at this moment is the default Apache2 "this site is working" page :(
[01:37] <_kuja_> (by the way, I've no idea)
[01:38] <fribuntu> _kuja_: well, I found an old forum post from october 2006 ... But I think I have used that repo after that date.
[01:38] <LBB_> kuja thx about the passwd. so how do i make hda1 available again. It does seem to be needed...
[01:38] <Black5un> (21:25:18) (pdxsam) deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy free non-free
[01:38] <Black5un> (21:25:19) (pdxsam) deb-src http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy free non-free
[01:38] <Black5un> (21:25:25) (pdxsam) that replaces freecontrib
[01:38] <_kuja_> Could be just down for-the-moment, if you're lucky.
[01:39] <Black5un> been down for a week or two
[01:39] <_kuja_> LBB_: no problem. I've no idea ... parted doesn't seem to think it exists.
[01:39] <fribuntu> _kuja_: It looks more serious ... if it was planned maintenance they would have put a page up to explain that, don't you think?
[01:40] <_kuja_> Anyone with have a brain would, but it looks like BlackSun has the answer to your woes ;)
[01:40] <fribuntu> _kuja_: Try yourself: http://packages.freecontrib.org/
[01:40] <_kuja_> *half
[01:41] <fribuntu> _kuja_: Do you know of a second source for libdecss and win32codecs?
[01:41] <LBB_> _kuja_: any idea about wich irc to visit or what to google( hey even a man-page to read would be swell!)
[01:41] <kai_> i have a question about my Kaffeine..when I open up any media file it crashes...what can i do
[01:41] <_kuja_> The original source for the dvdcss2 is http://developers.videolan.org
[01:41] <_kuja_> You can also get win32 codecs from http://mplayerhq.hu
[01:42] <fribuntu> _kuja_: ok, I meant as ubuntu-compatible DEBs
[01:42] <_kuja_> kai_, that's odd
[01:43] <kai_> I dunno why it does that, it just recently started doin that
[01:43] <fribuntu> _kuja_: Would http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ work?
[01:44] <_kuja_> fribuntu ... the w32codecs is just drag and drop to the folder /usr/lib/win32 (or was it /usr/lib/codecs?), the dvdcss2 isn't hard to build a deb for ...  just download the tarball for 1.2.9 and extract it, open the folder in a terminal, sudo apt-get install build-essential fakeroot debconf debhelper; fakeroot debian/rules binary and there, voila, debs.
[01:44] <_kuja_> It probably would, but I've never used it
[01:44] <_kuja_> I think PLF probably has the packages too
[01:44] <goodthing> Seveas' Ubuntu packages has it, i think
[01:45] <_kuja_> Yeah, Seveas has it too
[01:45] <fribuntu> _kuja_: well, packages.freecontrib.org is the PLF repo, isn't it?
[01:46] <_kuja_> is it? I've never used it ... so I guess I wouldn't know
[01:47] <kai_> it just keeps crashing :(
[01:47] <_kuja_> I've used the alioth (debian-multimedia) repository before ... I used to get my mplayer from there, now I just build from source anymore
[01:47] <goodthing> fribuntu: remember to not keep additional repo' s active all the time, it might come with other upgrade you might not like to have
[01:48] <_kuja_> kai:, hmmm
[01:48] <_kuja_> video or audio files?
[01:49] <LBB_> _kuja_ & BluesKaj: thanks a lot for your help so far. I think I will be back once my kubunto starts booting again, couse it hangs at configuring mysq
[01:50] <_kuja_> LBB_ no problem
[01:51] <conn> hi, is it possible to set the gnome icon theme within kubuntu?
[01:52] <_kuja_> conn: I don't think so, I never could in the past, maybe you can find a kde-compatible version of it on kde-look.org?
[01:52] <_kuja_> I think you would be looking for human or tango ...
[01:53] <conn> _kuja_: I just want to set the icon theme for *gnome* icons to Human, because it's displaying the old Industrial icons :(
[01:53] <circ> if you want just the gnome icons, theres a gnome theme on kde-look
[01:54] <_kuja_> So you're trying to set GNOME's icon theme from KDE? I don't know if that can be done at all. You probably have to use GNOME's setting program for it.
[02:01] <genii> OK time to ask again :) Anyone compiled Conexant HCF or HSF "winmodem" drivers successfully under Edgy yet?
[02:01] <tzbishop> How do I upgrade a deb package with dpkg?
[02:02] <Lathiat> just install it
[02:02] <Lathiat> dpkg -i <package>
[02:02] <Lathiat> i think
[02:02] <tzbishop> Lathiat: install upgrades too?
[02:02] <sdra> does anyone know why i can't play videos from nbc.com, the commercials play but the online show doesn't
[02:02] <goodthing> tzbishop: you can't, afaik you need to find a newer version and download it reparately
[02:03] <Lathiat> tzbishop: if you have the new package, else you want to be using apt
[02:04] <tzbishop> i have downloaded kicker-kickoff which will substitute kickoff. How can upgrade it? dpkg -i ?
[02:05] <genii> tzbishop Just try dpkg -i <name>  ...if it has the exact same name as the original it will warn you
[02:05] <Rob-West> im trying to play a flash game but it wont play
[02:05] <Rob-West> i installed flash
[02:05] <goodthing> tzbishop: not sure if it would be optimal, but i have find myself to always remove and reinstall with dpkg when i wanted to upgrade a installed package
[02:07] <tzbishop> WoW! dpkg -i worked. kickoff is wonderfully working.....kubuntu is so practical :)
[02:07] <tzbishop> goodthing: http://home.kde.org/~binner/kickoff/sneak_preview.html
[02:08] <tzbishop> goodthing: new K-Menu created by SuSE 10.2. it's practical, nice, beautiful ;)
[02:08] <Rob-West> im trying to play a flash game but it wont play
[02:08] <Rob-West> i installed flash
[02:09] <Rob-West> !flash
[02:09] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:10] <ubuntu> Can someone help me avoid not having to go back to the pit of Windows hell by helping me get my USB touchscreen working
[02:10] <kai_> can some one help me with my kaffeine
[02:10] <genii> does anyone have an aspirin or two? ;)
[02:11] <kai_> ...it crashes on start-up
[02:11] <sdra> does the feisty herd1 already have beryl installed and working with it?
[02:11] <kai_> what can i do? of course I  tryed installin/reinstalling
[02:11] <genii> I can't get feisty to install yet... half the screen disappears on step 3
[02:12] <sdra> o
[02:12] <kai_> is there another way of thourgly remove and the re-install?
[02:12] <flaccid> i've got the "X" screensaver bug. anybody got a link on how to fix it?
[02:12] <genii> goodthing Thx
[02:12] <flaccid> !xbug
[02:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xbug - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:13] <paocomqueijo> brasil
[02:13] <faeryNatsuki> hello!
[02:13] <flaccid> anyone know about that... the screensaver goes to a white xorg X logo
[02:13] <paocomqueijo> alguem fala protugues?
[02:13] <flaccid> !bugs
[02:13] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[02:13] <paocomqueijo> portugues*
[02:14] <genii> !br
[02:14] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[02:14] <paocomqueijo> alguem fala portugues??????????
[02:14] <genii> !pt
[02:14] <paocomqueijo> e como eh que faz isso?
[02:15] <ubuntu> Is there like a Ubuntu Hardware channel or site?
[02:16] <flaccid> !hardware
[02:16] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[02:17] <genii> !hcl
[02:17] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[02:17] <genii> hmm
[02:22] <sGorwood> I have a fresh install of kubunty 6.10.  I have one puzzlement.  I am missing the Power Management icon in the System Settings window.  It worked on 6.06, bit is missing in 6.10.  Anyone have any ideas as to how to make it appear?
[02:24] <flaccid>  i wish they would fix this https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdeartwork/+bug/70991
[02:24] <goodthing> sGorwood: the menu's in system settings are change a little between 6.06 and 6.10, for what i know it is still there
[02:26] <darko> need help with creative sb card
[02:27] <sGorwood> I see it in screen shots that I see on the Web; and I haven't found many complaints when I tried to google the problem; so I think that it is a problem with my install, not a generic problem with Kubuntu.  Does anyone know what executable the icon invokes?  If I know that, I could just add the link myself.
[02:28] <darko> anyone knows solutoin with Creative Live cards
[02:29] <Chani> argh
[02:29] <Chani> synaptics drivers seem to be very buggy in edgy
[02:29] <darko> i installed latest alsa drivers
[02:30] <darko> but it just stop responding
[02:30] <darko> now i can see in mixer all parametars
[02:30] <darko> but i think there is no active driver for sb live
[02:30] <darko> anyone
[02:30] <darko> ?
[02:37] <sikun> is there a way to manually turn my cpu fan on ( on a laptop ) ?
[02:38] <phobiac> sikun: What laptop?
[02:38] <sikun> i have a gateway solo 1150
[02:39] <Lathiat> thats very laptop specific
[02:39] <Lathiat> google around
[02:39] <phobiac> Hmm, I have no idea and google seems to not be very helpful.
[02:40] <Lathiat> then perhaps no one has done it
[02:40] <sikun> i've been searching google for a while
[02:40] <phobiac> However I can think of two ways to do it
[02:40] <phobiac> 1) Write a program that can do it
[02:40] <Lathiat> check /proc/acpi/fan
[02:40] <phobiac> 2) Trick the computer into thinking it's hotter then it really is.
[02:41] <sikun> how would i trick it?
[02:41] <Lathiat> http://www.geocities.com/acarirfan/solo-1450ls.html
[02:41] <phobiac> No idea
[02:41] <phobiac> Either way you'd probably end up writing some code, however 2 seems the much easier route.
[02:42] <sikun> well i saw this... echo "force_on:1" > /proc/acpi/fan/FAN1/state but.. when i do that i get 'permission denied' but that also was for a fedora distro
[02:43] <sikun> Lathiat : thanks... i'll try some of that out
[02:44] <Lathiat> sikun: where you root when doing that
[02:44] <sikun> yes
[02:45] <sikun> well, i was doing sudo
[02:45] <BrianSteffens|zz> anyone know the name of the ktorrent upnp plugin for use in sudo apt-get install?
[02:46] <phobiac> Brian: Aren't the plugins automatically installed and you just have to enable them?
[02:46] <circ> theyve always been for me
[02:47] <BrianSteffens|zz> phobiac oo good call haha. yep
[02:47] <BrianSteffens|zz> thanks
[02:47] <phobiac> No problem
[02:53] <Ash-Fox> http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=36077 <- heh, neat little hack to get GTK apps to use KDE file dialogs.
[03:03] <Ace2016> Hi all
[03:03] <Ace2016> whats "write-intent bitmapping"?????
[03:18] <shenmue> !htop
[03:18] <ubotu> htop: interactive processes viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.2-1 (edgy), package size 42 kB, installed size 172 kB
[03:19] <faeryNatsuki> hello
[03:19] <faeryNatsuki> ant way to place winamp or xmms skins in amarok?
[03:19] <lupine_85> faeryNatsuki: not AFAIK
[03:20] <faeryNatsuki> lupine_85: what is afaik?
[03:21] <lupine_85> 1. install bsdgames, then you can use "wtf is <thing>".
[03:21] <lupine_85> 2. it stands for "as far as I know"
[03:22] <RoKFiT> can anyone help?  I'm stuck on the installer of feisty, install software is at 6%
[03:22] <RoKFiT> seems to not be moving] 
[03:23] <BrianSteffens|zz> do i have to issue a umount command on a mounted hdd before i can physically remove it?
[03:23] <_kuja_> whoa, beryl is going nuts o.O
[03:23] <RoKFiT> _kuja_, help me
[03:23] <RoKFiT> feisty's installer is stuck at 6% for adding software
[03:24] <RoKFiT> i just burned the cd
[03:24] <_kuja_> RoKFiT ... stuck isn't good, did you check the md5 sums before you went to install?
[03:24] <RoKFiT> how do i do that?
[03:24] <_kuja_> Well, the place where you download it from has the md5 sums available to download right next to the file (it's a .MD5 file, very very small text file)
[03:25] <RoKFiT> i don't believe the problem is that
[03:25] <_kuja_> I do.
[03:25] <RoKFiT> oh
[03:25] <_kuja_> Corrupt downloads and corrupt burns are all but common enough.
[03:26] <goodthing> btw, feisty desktop makes my screens to go purple as soon as i hit next at keyboard type
[03:26] <rizwaan> exactly..
[03:26] <rizwaan> i can't install feisty, too!
[03:27] <_kuja_> I have feisty running fine, inside a virtual machine though.
[03:27] <goodthing> well, you could try text install, but i was out of disks...
[03:27] <_kuja_> I did it the insane way.
[03:27] <rizwaan> feisty alternate-install also hangs after keyboard
[03:27] <rizwaan> selection
[03:28] <_kuja_> I dist-upgraded to feisty :)
[03:28] <rizwaan> me too.. dist-upgraded
[03:28] <_kuja_> And why in the world is this window b&w ...
[03:28] <rizwaan> but feisty should be installable.. from the media..
[03:28] <rizwaan> feisty is way faster than edgy
[03:29] <naught101> is feisty going to have kde4 as standard?
[03:29] <_kuja_> rizwaan, what's faster about it?
[03:29] <_kuja_> naught101: no
[03:29] <naught101> damn
[03:29] <naught101> feisty is 7.04, right?
[03:29] <rizwaan> application response.. konqueror shows up in less than 1 sec.. in feisty
[03:30] <goodthing> yep
[03:30] <_kuja_> As soon as kde4 is available, it will be packaged and released the same way as other updates are done, AFAIK
[03:30] <rizwaan> and 3 secs in edgy
[03:30] <naught101> yeah, I'd just rather do a complete CD install..
[03:30] <LucianSolaris> I need someone to assist me with getting an external monitor on a laptop to not be streched (like the panel, which is a wxga screen).  I need to know how to do this in X.  the laptop panel backlight inverter is dead and I am dependent on the external monitor.  MergedFB fixes it but i'm stuck in 1024x768 and the monitors system settings is broken.  PLEASE HELP ME!!!
[03:30] <dan_> Hello! I try connecting my mp3 player to the usb port and nothing happens (tail -f /var/log/messages). I tried mounting it manually, but I get some errors... Could anyone help me?
[03:32] <tzbishop> hey
[03:32] <rizwaan> dan, try the other usb ports..
[03:33] <_kuja_> LucianSolaris, try running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  by chance?
[03:33] <_kuja_> rizwaan: I have konqueror showing up in
[03:34] <_kuja_> **less than 0.25s in edgy
[03:34] <rizwaan> well, for my hardware, feisty is faster.. responsive..
[03:34] <_kuja_> konqueror -> settings -> configure konqueror -> performance, preload a few instances.
[03:34] <_kuja_> make sure one is preloaded at all times
[03:34] <rizwaan> yes, i know that..
[03:34] <rizwaan> preloading causes cd lock, sometimes..
[03:35] <_kuja_> cd lock?
[03:35] <rizwaan> can't eject the cd/dvd
[03:35] <_kuja_> That's a different problem, I think.
[03:35] <Schuenemann> is there a bug in KDE scrollbars?
[03:35] <rizwaan> scrollbars..?
[03:35] <Schuenemann> yes
[03:36] <_kuja_> Make sure you're not in /media/cdrom in any programs before ejecting and you should be fine rizwaan
[03:36] <dan_> rizwaan: I just tried, nothing happens and I can't mount it manually... =/ (As far as I know, my mp3 player is supposed to be /dev/sda1, rite?)
[03:36] <Schuenemann> on the right or bottom side, there are always 2 arrows
[03:36] <_kuja_> What sort of bug?
[03:36] <_kuja_> That's no bug
[03:36] <_kuja_> One goes up, one goes down
[03:36] <Schuenemann> nope
[03:36] <Schuenemann> there are 3 arrows in total
[03:36] <_kuja_> An up arrow, and a down arrow
[03:36] <circ> sda1 is a scsi hd
[03:36] <Schuenemann> 1 on top and 2 on bottom
[03:36] <rizwaan> dan, try "dmesg" after inserting the usb/mp3 player in the usb port
[03:36] <Schuenemann> 2 up and 1 down
[03:36] <_kuja_> I know
[03:37] <_kuja_> look at them closely
[03:37] <_kuja_> one points up, one points down
[03:37] <dan_> rizwaan: should I paste the usb part of dmesg here?
[03:37] <Schuenemann> yeah, but the one that points up does not work
[03:37] <rizwaan> not here..
[03:37] <rizwaan> using pastebin
[03:37] <Schuenemann> well, it is working in konversation, but not in firefox, for example
[03:37] <_kuja_> Works for me?
[03:37] <_kuja_> Firefox isn't a kde app, that could be the problem.
[03:38] <Schuenemann> hmmm....
[03:38] <Schuenemann> works in konqueror too
[03:38] <_kuja_> *tests* and Kopete
[03:38] <rizwaan> den, http://rafb.net/paste
[03:38] <Schuenemann> I guess you're right
[03:39] <_kuja_> It might be a bug to have the up arrow on the bottom in non-kde apps, I'm not sure.
[03:40] <rizwaan> there's gtk-qt thing which fixes the firefox problem in appearance..
[03:40] <Schuenemann> what is it?
[03:40] <rizwaan> system-settings-> appearance -> gtk-qt
[03:40] <rizwaan> there's something called 'fix scrollbar for firefox'
[03:41] <Schuenemann> not for me
[03:41] <Schuenemann> !gtk
[03:41] <MattQcCa> !UserDir
[03:41] <ubotu> GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of Gnome and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI
[03:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about UserDir - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:41] <rizwaan> gtk style
[03:41] <_kuja_> I see it there in the gtk-qt ...
[03:41] <Schuenemann> there is use another style
[03:42] <Schuenemann> qt or raleigh
[03:42] <_kuja_> below that should be fonts selection, and below that a note about the firefox fix ....
[03:42] <rizwaan> "install scrollbar fix" button
[03:42] <Schuenemann> not for me... I'm using dapper
[03:43] <BrianSteffens> how can i shutdown and restart X without rebooting my actual system?
[03:43] <Schuenemann> ctrl + alt + backspace ?
[03:43] <MattQcCa> Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[03:43] <BrianSteffens> tyty
[03:43] <_kuja_> That or logout, then you can restart x from kdm
[03:43] <Schuenemann> rizwaan: are you using edgy?
[03:44] <rizwaan> i'm using feisty
[03:44] <Schuenemann> maybe there isn't that option in dapper
[03:44] <BrianSteffens> if i logout i'll get a fullscreen terminal?
[03:44] <rizwaan> use releigh
[03:44] <_kuja_> I'm going to see if it's there in dapper or not
[03:44] <rizwaan> i hope that'll fix the scroll bar
[03:44] <rizwaan> need to restart firefox
[03:44] <MattQcCa> anyone has a clue why I get a Forbidden when using the UserDir module in apache?
[03:44] <dan_> rizwaan: 'tis here =) http://rafb.net/paste/results/AX4CMU54.html
[03:45] <rizwaan> k
[03:45] <Schuenemann> now firefox is very ugly heheh
[03:45] <_kuja_> Wasn't it ugly before? j/k
[03:45] <Schuenemann> not that much!
[03:45] <_kuja_> Like windows 95 type ugly?
[03:46] <Schuenemann> like motif, I think
[03:46] <rizwaan> dan, dmesg should show "sda" or "sdb" or "sdc"
[03:46] <_kuja_> same idea
[03:46] <dan_> rizwaan: Ahn... Im gonna paste the entire dmesg now, ok?
[03:46] <rizwaan> ok
[03:46] <lupine_85> !pastebin
[03:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:46] <_kuja_> Probably more realistically like what gtk apps look like without having gtk-qt installed.
[03:47] <BrianSteffens> wow Feisty is out =X man with how fast linux operating systems update you could have a full-time job of just staying on top haha
[03:47] <lupine_85> it's not out :p
[03:47] <BrianSteffens> preview thingy though ;P
[03:47] <Schuenemann> and that made an extension vanish, too
[03:48] <Schuenemann> the tab*
[03:48] <_kuja_> !Feisty
[03:48] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[03:49] <dan_> rizwaan: http://rafb.net/paste/results/cFJygT38.html
[03:49] <rizwaan> k
[03:49] <joshy> sdgfdsgtgdfsg
[03:49] <joshy> jhh+
[03:49] <joshy> opdjgd
[03:49] <joshy> spam
[03:50] <_kuja_> o.O spam is bad for you joshy
[03:50] <joshy> haha you're not allowed to kickban /me
[03:50] <_kuja_> No, but I know who is.
[03:50] <Schuenemann> yeah...
[03:50] <joshy> if am i allowed to
[03:51] <joshy> ... /kickban _kuja_
[03:51] <joshy> lol
[03:51] <_kuja_> You're boring me joshy
[03:51] <genii> Does anyone know how much space it takes to mirror dapper? I just did it for edgy, was about 31Gb... about same do you think? Or are they sharing some stuff?
[03:51] <joshy> sry for spam
[03:51] <_kuja_> genii: it would likely be about the same
[03:52] <joshy> _kuja_: make me funny
[03:52] <rizwaan> dan, ohci_hcd 0000:00:01.2: can't setup
[03:52] <rizwaan> dan, either your usb ports are bad or you need to upgrade the kernel
[03:52] <genii> -kuja OK thanks
[03:52] <joshy> _kuja_: rulez
[03:52] <joshy> lol
[03:53] <joshy> rofl
[03:53] <joshy> xD
[03:53] <joshy> cola-rum rulez
[03:53] <rizwaan> dan, r u using edgy..???
[03:53] <joshy> cola-rum ftw
[03:53] <dan_> rizwaan: Ahn ... I can mount it with other OS, it means I have to upgrade the kernel?
[03:53] <jerp> I guess building a debian chroot can't hurt anything
[03:53] <dan_> rizwaan: Yep!
[03:54] <rizwaan> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=33944
[03:54] <joshy> lfg strat princess run
[03:54] <goodthing> joshy: you'd better stop now, plz
[03:54] <Chani> I'm having trouble installing the flash plugin.
[03:54] <Chani> Setting up flashplugin-nonfree (7.0.68~ubuntu3) ...
[03:54] <Chani> Downloading...
[03:54] <Chani> it's got that far and no further
[03:54] <joshy> goodthing: you
[03:54] <Chani> been staring at it for 15 mins or so
[03:54] <joshy> 're not root
[03:55] <genii> Anyone know if there is a way to chroot /target after an automated netboot install then do a HUP with sshd?
[03:55] <joshy> xD
[03:55] <joshy> correct kuja ;)
[03:55] <goodthing> _kuja_: exactly my thought
[03:55] <joshy> =D
[03:55] <_kuja_> D*** I'm good.
[03:55] <joshy> :)
[03:55] <genii> Some preseed/late_command etc?
[03:56] <joshy> _kuja_: booooooooooooooooring
[03:56] <_kuja_> *powers on
[03:56] <joshy> lol
[03:57] <_kuja_> It's not my fault that my fingers are dyslexic!
[03:57] <joshy> _kuja_: hack /127.0.0.1
[03:57] <joshy> XD
[03:58] <dan_> rizwaan: Thank you for your help. It means I need a kernel upgrade?
[03:58] <rizwaan> dan, i guess so..
[03:59] <joshy> _kuja_: what's up
[03:59] <_kuja_> joshy: not too much
[03:59] <_kuja_> joshy: Just trying to burn time, one of the things I'm best at
[03:59] <joshy> _kuja_: don't boring me
[04:00] <genii> ?#ubuntu
[04:00] <genii> bleh
[04:00] <joshy> _kuja_: .......
[04:00] <jerp> Is there a way to boost some contrast for the taskbar?  Everywhere else I have no problem with the color level.
[04:01] <BrianSteffens> i just downloaded the java sdk thing and it's a .sh file. how do i install this?
[04:01] <joshy> !qkill _kuja_
[04:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qkill _kuja_ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:01] <_kuja_> jerp, I do recall there being a contrast slider in appearance -> colors
[04:02] <_kuja_> sudo kill -9 joshy
[04:02] <goodthing> BrianSteffens: make the file executable and run it with ./file.sh
[04:02] <ForgeAus> I'm ba-ack
[04:02] <joshy> wb
[04:02] <jerp> ok, I'll take a look
[04:02] <ForgeAus> I can't believe I just mounted a linux partition under XP!
[04:02] <ForgeAus> and it works like a charm!
[04:02] <joshy> gz
[04:02] <genii> heh _kuja_
[04:02] <BrianSteffens> goodthing ty
[04:02] <_kuja_> !botsnack
[04:02] <ubotu> Yum!
[04:03] <ForgeAus> (from a VMWare image too!)
[04:03] <_kuja_> ForgeAus, from fsdriver.org, I presume?
[04:03] <ForgeAus> using VMware mounting utility + Ext2IFS (which apparently reads ex3 too)
[04:04] <ForgeAus> I mounted it as L: :)
[04:04] <genii> Cool
[04:04] <ForgeAus> yup thats the site kija :)
[04:04] <_kuja_> cp --backup joshy joshy.bak
[04:04] <bLaZeD> !iso
[04:04] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning.
[04:04] <ForgeAus> ok so now I need the path to apt-get installer junk again...
[04:04] <joshy> !rofl
[04:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rofl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:05] <genii> tail joshy >%2> /dev/null
[04:05] <joshy> !iso
[04:05] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning.
[04:05] <ForgeAus> my disk is FAR overloaded with installer stuff
[04:05] <joshy> !fat
[04:05] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[04:05] <joshy> !fuse
[04:05] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[04:05] <joshy> !ntfs
[04:05] <joshy> !ntfs
[04:05] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[04:06] <BluesKaj> LBB, how are you making out with the partitions ?
[04:06] <_kuja_> joshy: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/ntfs-3g, another way
[04:07] <joshy> _kuja_: /me just kidding
[04:07] <joshy> _kuja_: /me kickban /me please
[04:07] <larson9999> windows sucks
[04:07] <joshy> vm rulez
[04:08] <matthew> joshy, what's with all the /me stuff?
[04:08] <goodthing> no, you are drunk
[04:08] <_kuja_> joshy is apparantly drunk ...
[04:08] <matthew> !etiquette | joshy
[04:08] <ubotu> joshy: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam, !AskTheBot - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[04:09] <BrianSteffens> !Language
[04:09] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:09] <matthew> !guidelines | joshy
[04:09] <ubotu> joshy: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:09] <joshy> !guidelines
[04:09] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:09] <robotgeek> matthew: please use >
[04:09] <joshy> !Guidelines
[04:09] <matthew> robotgeek, will that pm them?
[04:09] <matthew> private message them?
[04:09] <joshy> !Guidelines
[04:09] <joshy> !Guidelines
[04:09] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:10] <robotgeek> matthew: yes, but i dont know if it will work for you as you are unidentified
[04:10] <genii> matthew Hi :) Any luck on Skype/soundcard issues?
[04:10] <joshy> !me was mtd
[04:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about me was mtd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:10] <joshy> mtd rulez
[04:10] <matthew> genii, hey, long time no see...nope, the only options I had were to enable|disable it...no irq options anywhere
[04:10] <joshy> and wimmer toooooooooooo
[04:10] <BluesKaj> !apache
[04:10] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[04:10] <robotgeek> joshy: hmm, how is that relevant?
[04:10] <matthew> robotgeek, what do you mean, "unidentified"?
[04:11] <matthew> !offtopic > joshy
[04:11] <joshy> look for hgb
[04:11] <goodthing> joshy: you might not like the sound of it at the moment, but do you know you are lowering yourself and the channel?
[04:11] <robotgeek> matthew: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#identify
[04:11] <genii> Weird it should have apache separate from lamp
[04:12] <_kuja_> hmm, dapper is 50% installed ....... so time consuming
[04:12] <joshy> _kuja_: you're boring
[04:12] <_kuja_> That's nice joshy
[04:12] <joshy> rofl
[04:12] <robotgeek> joshy: could you please keep it ontopic?
[04:12] <matthew> _kuja_, actually, it's much faster than installing windoze...plus, no reboots...
[04:12] <_kuja_> Truth
[04:13] <_kuja_> I think windows takes about a half hour ...
[04:13] <_kuja_> It might be less
[04:13] <genii> Anyone do any kind of preseed install before?
[04:13] <robotgeek> hah, i just blogged about that 5 minutes ago!
[04:13] <joshy> ontopic???? wtf???
[04:13] <joshy> ontopic sux
[04:13] <matthew> _kuja_, at least...I think my shortest install time w/ Windoze (don't look at me like that, I work at a computer store!) is an hour
[04:14] <matthew> _kuja_, and that's w/o the drivers if needed...stuff like that
[04:14] <genii> not to mention the daily security updates
[04:14] <_kuja_> My computer is pretty quick :D
[04:14] <joshy> _kuja_: you
[04:14] <robotgeek> joshy: then, maybe you can leave?
[04:14] <joshy> maybe
[04:14] <robotgeek> joshy: or talk in #kubuntu-offtopic
[04:14] <goodthing> joshy: you are starting to get annoying now
[04:14] <matthew> joshy, please stay, I love to read what you have to say
[04:14] <genii> goodthing What, only now? lol
[04:15] <_kuja_> genii, matthew: I just install a decent firewall and internet browser, and then never update windows again ... call it lazyness. Well, that's how I behaved with my last windows install anyway. Oh, and I didn't run it as administrator either.
[04:15] <joshy>  XD
[04:15] <joshy> reverse XD
[04:15] <matthew> _kuja_, hmm...I prefer linux for the abundance of programs available and price (free)
[04:16] <matthew> _kuja_, my experience has been that linux is less stable than XP...
[04:16] <ForgeAus> Crossmeta have another way of doing it... via NFS basically (mount a NFS system then plugin Ext2/3 riserfs, etc into it
[04:16] <joshy> matthew: is sucking _kuja_ dick
[04:16] <_kuja_> matthew: I that install of windows is on my parents computer. I'd hate to take away their precious windows (well, no I wouldn't, it's just I've not gotten away with it yet)
[04:16] <matthew> !language > joshy
[04:16] <matthew> thanks, robotgeek
[04:17] <_kuja_> whoo, that's better.
[04:17] <genii> thanks
[04:17] <matthew> _kuja_, lol, I know what you mean, would love to do the same for my family, but they're using dialup...
[04:17] <matthew> at least I set my little bro up w/ a kubuntu box...
[04:17] <matthew> lol
[04:17] <_kuja_> Me too
[04:17] <_kuja_> The little brother part anyway
[04:18] <matthew> _kuja_, I find it's easier getting little kids to change rather than adults...
[04:18] <_kuja_> I'm still living with my parents ... with the expense of these student loans I probably will be for some time
[04:18] <matthew> genii, is there a way to set irq's from within kubuntu?
[04:18] <matthew> I know what you mean
[04:18] <genii> kids aren't afraid of ripping stuff apart to see how it works :) Thats why linux is hours of entertainment
[04:18] <matthew> genii, that's exactly right
[04:18] <joshy> re
[04:19] <robotgeek> joshy: you are welcome if you behave
[04:19] <genii> matthew Well, I suspect you could forcibly set it within /etc/modules
[04:19] <_kuja_> I can't convince my brother to use it in such a manner. He's too busy reading (which is okay)
[04:19] <matthew> genii, I remember my mom telling me a few years ago that she didn't want to break anything by fiddling w/ settings...I told her I like to do it cause if I do break something, I'm forced to figure out how to fix it...
[04:20] <tzbishop> In which rep. is libxine-extracodecs ? (main, universal, etc)
[04:20] <matthew> genii, nah, don't want to get to into it...
[04:20] <robotgeek> !info libxine-extracodecs
[04:20] <matthew> !multiverse
[04:20] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB
[04:20] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:20] <BluesKaj> ripping stuff apart is no prob , but for some it's getting it work after putting it back together that is. :)
[04:20] <genii> !ubuntu-installer
[04:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-installer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:20] <matthew> BluesKaj, I can relate
[04:21] <_kuja_> BluesKaj, well, he has me, so I don't think that would be as big a problem.
[04:21] <daftvader> Hi does anyone know how to change the font size to the login screen?
[04:21] <genii> he ubotu seems somewhat confused at times
[04:21] <_kuja_> He's like my parents .... the moment something goes wrong they come crying to me.
[04:22] <matthew> _kuja_, the way I got him to stay w/ linux: I told him I would get him a computer, but he could _never_ install windows on it...lol
[04:22] <matthew> can we ban wimmer/joshy yet?
[04:22] <_kuja_> I gave him the computer. He's only 13 so he won't be able to afford a Windows license anytime soon :P
[04:22] <matthew> _kuja_, nicely done.
[04:22] <goodthing> may i request someone to kick and ban joshy/wimmer?
[04:22] <wimmer> hehe you're not +o
[04:23] <genii> He'll probably use bittorrent to d/l a windoze iso
[04:23] <matthew> talk to robotgeek  about that
[04:23] <genii> heh
[04:23] <blblb> haha
[04:23] <BluesKaj> I built a windows pc from some parts , gave it to the seniors center ...was an old 233mhz MMX with 128mb RAM and 6G HDD ...good for surfing and email . An guy there had some experience with linux so he put ubuntu on it in less than 2 hrs was on the net :0
[04:23] <_kuja_> genii: he has no interest in computers, so long as what he has works he won't do anything.
[04:23] <matthew> genii, yeah, I did that, for the same reason...but I got hit with the WGA terror.
[04:23] <rizwaan> http://www.pledgebank.com/nouveaudriver
[04:23] <ForgeAus> yay just deleted 400mb!
[04:23] <matthew> BluesKaj, wait...an old guy had experience w/ linux?
[04:24] <BluesKaj> yup, unix actually
[04:24] <goodthing> thanks :)
[04:24] <matthew> BluesKaj, amazing...I love to hear peoples stories...not the boring stuff, but their backgrounds....you know?
[04:24] <matthew> makes you see that there is more than a bunch of wrinkles and drool...lol
[04:25] <matthew> no offense intended to anyone
[04:25] <genii> Where I work we have 2500+ used city computers, I am netboot-installing batches of them to edgy but may have to downgrade to dapper for some crap to work right
[04:25] <matthew> genii, you are magical!
[04:25] <Rob-West> i need help
[04:25] <matthew> genii, 2500+?
[04:25] <BluesKaj> he had been fooling with linux for a number of yrs ...was an electronics guy , who still fixed old tv sets for ppl ...neat old dude
[04:25] <genii> matthew heh :)
[04:25] <matthew> genii, want to send me one?
[04:26] <matthew> lol, if it's better than what I've got...PIII @ 933Mhz w/ 512Mb RAM...
[04:26] <Rob-West> i hid the main tool bar for Konversation and i cant get it back
[04:26] <genii> matthew Originally 3168 but some were kaput so we broke em down for parts...also I got a bunch old dual-cpu and quad-cpu servers outta the deal
[04:27] <matthew> genii, very nice...what speeds are the multi-procs rated for?
[04:27] <genii> matthew We are in Toronto ... selling them complete including a net connection for $79 canadian
[04:27] <robotgeek> _kuja_: are you using the wiki guide for it?
[04:27] <Carbon_Monoxide> I can't connect to mysqld with "-h [ip_addr] " but success with "-h localhost".
[04:27] <matthew> genii, what are the specs on an average machine?
[04:27] <Carbon_Monoxide> How to solve this issue?
[04:27] <BluesKaj> Rob-West, ctrl + M
[04:27] <labinet10> yes
[04:27] <labinet10> uhh..
[04:28] <_kuja_> robotgeek, I used it when I installed vmware server, I've got feisty and kubuntu dapper set up in VMs so far
[04:28] <genii> matthew Well, they are old pieces of crap to be sure LOL butI can put up to a 1.2 P3 in each slot so long as the stepping and cache are matched
[04:28] <genii> 100 FSB tho
[04:28] <e1mer> anyone experience problems on sounds, sometimes my laptop outputs its sound to its speaker despite an earphone is plugged in
[04:28] <matthew> genii, hmm, your selling multi-cpu machines to customers?
[04:28] <robotgeek> _kuja_: what's the difference between server/player (or is it documented on the wiki?)
[04:29] <_kuja_> the server lets you create vms, it's under a non-free license, but it's a free download
[04:29] <matthew> genii, I mean, to lay-people?
[04:29] <genii> matthew The specs for the lowest machine are p2 400 Optiplex GX1 ..192 Mb Ram, 6.5 Gb HD, various modems ... ESS1869 sound
[04:29] <_kuja_> At least, that's what I gathered from it
[04:29] <robotgeek> _kuja_: i need to run feisty in a vm, so i was looking
[04:30] <matthew> genii, no standardization between machines?
[04:30] <genii> matthew The next is a P3 733 or 800 256 Mb 10Gb HD
[04:30] <genii> matthew All the P2 are identical... all the P3 are identical etc
[04:30] <genii> the p3 are optiplex gx10
[04:30] <matthew> genii, ah, ok, different prices for different machine "classes"?
[04:30] <genii> gx110
[04:30] <dan_> Hello, I can't access or mount my mp3 player and I get ohci_hcd 0000:00:01.2: can't setup from my dmesg. I was told to upgrade my kernel, but I already use 2.6.17.10 ... Does anyone have an idea? Thanks.
[04:31] <genii> matthew Yeah ... the P3 are $90
[04:31] <e1mer> anyone experience problems on sounds, sometimes my laptop outputs its sound to its speaker despite an earphone is plugged in
[04:31] <genii> monitor, kb, mouse etc included
[04:31] <robotgeek> _kuja_: so, if i downloaded the iso for feisty, i should be able to install it using vmware server? the vmplayer needs some vmx images, i gather?
[04:31] <BluesKaj> genii, Ty Domi's brother's deal with the city ...each pc cost over 10k on that contract :)
[04:32] <matthew> genii, what're the highest spec'ed machines?
[04:32] <dave_> anyone having troubling playing mp3 in kubuntu i still cant get any pluging to work becasue i dont know all about the adept ad nsudo
[04:32] <matthew> BluesKaj, who is Domi?
[04:32] <genii> Blues LOL yeah thats why we got em.... they are trying to wash their hands of it all
[04:32] <robotgeek> !mp3 > dave_
[04:32] <BluesKaj> Leafs hockey player, who just retired
[04:33] <matthew> BluesKaj, 10k per? roflmao @ the man
[04:33] <matthew> lol
[04:33] <genii> matthew Highest spec machine we have (about 25 of) non dual/quad etc is P4 1.6 512, 40HD
[04:33] <matthew> genii, how many RAM slots?
[04:33] <BluesKaj> was a royal scam , genii & matthew
[04:33] <genii> matthew On the P4 2 sdram
[04:34] <matthew> genii, how much for one of those?
[04:34] <genii> matthew $139
[04:34] <BluesKaj> that also included , setting up WANs' thos but the outcome was at a cost of 10K per pc
[04:34] <_kuja_> robotgeek, indeed you should. I did it the stupid/hard way, and dist-upgraded edgy in the VM
[04:34] <genii> All systems come with 1 year internet dialup with my isp
[04:34] <matthew> genii, hmmm, not too bad...any idea if you could sell one to me? w/o the ISP thing, of course..lol
[04:35] <robotgeek> _kuja_: i dont see the easier way on the wiki, how to do it?
[04:35] <matthew> genii, that machine would almost double my processing power...lol
[04:35] <_kuja_> robotgeek: pull up konqueror, uwiki VmwareServer
[04:35] <genii> matthew LOL ... contact my work email at tfnoffice@torfree.net
[04:35] <_kuja_> That's the guide I used
[04:36] <matthew> genii, you use a TOR proxy?
[04:36] <labinet10_> uukk
[04:36] <robotgeek> _kuja_: thanks, was blind :)
[04:36] <labinet10_> yuuk
[04:36] <labinet10_> yuuk
[04:36] <labinet10_> yuyayuuk
[04:36] <genii> matthew We own our own servers, they are at 151 Front St here in Toronto
[04:36] <labinet10_> sex
[04:36] <matthew> great, another spammer...
[04:37] <matthew> thanks again, robotgeek
[04:37] <matthew> genii, ah...so, more privacy for consumers/customers?
[04:37] <genii> matthew Currently we have torfree.net  tfnet.ca  tfn.to and some ancient full country dotterd domains like freenet.on.ca etc
[04:37] <robotgeek> no prob, matthew
[04:38] <dave_> so no ideas?
[04:38] <greenlantern> Just switched to Kubuntu.  Love it.
[04:38] <genii> matthew Yeah we are great believers in free speech etc
[04:38] <_kuja_> Kubuntu is great :)
[04:39] <_kuja_> Best thing since, ummmm, ummm, Debian?
[04:39] <genii> Yes Kubuntu rocks :)
[04:39] <Chainsaw> Has anybody been able to get a Brother MFC-210C to work with Kubuntu?
[04:39] <greenlantern> I started with gnome, but this is much more powerful and easy to use.
[04:39] <matthew> genii, good to see that in an ISP...most try to throttle BT traffic
[04:40] <matthew> genii, just sent the email...
[04:40] <jerp> Does anyone have a couple good icon suggestions for a newb?
[04:40] <matthew> genii, may take a while for the actual purchase, seeing as I'm poor from Christmas....lol
[04:40] <genii> matthew Cool. I have to sort it out with my boss and I'll have an answer for you by Thurs
[04:40] <_kuja_> greenlantern: my thoughts exactly
[04:40] <matthew> genii, cool. thanks a lot!
[04:40] <_kuja_> Chainsaw, What's that?
[04:41] <matthew> _kuja_, it's a printer...
[04:41] <Chainsaw> kuja, It's a Brother multifunction printer.
[04:41] <Chainsaw> Scanner and fax
[04:41] <genii> Shamelss self plug: buy Kubuntu PCs at cut-rate Christmas prices from Toronto FreeNet! Get em before Tai Domi does!
[04:41] <matthew> Chainsaw, I've got an identical model...but it's on a windows machine.
[04:41] <_kuja_> Funny, when I read multifunction, I saw malfunction, hehe. Have you taken a look on the ubuntuforums?
[04:41] <matthew> genii, very nice
[04:42] <Chainsaw> Mine used to be as well matthew until I upgraded to Kubuntu.
[04:42] <Chainsaw> Now I cannot get Kubuntu to recognize it.
[04:42] <matthew> Chainsaw, lol, can't help you there...I've had trouble w/ printers myself
[04:43] <genii> I had the same prob with a Xerox WorkStaion 35 .... I finally gave up on it after like a few months of twiddling
[04:44] <Chainsaw> Brother has a deb for it allegedly, but Kubuntu doesn't recognize it.
[04:44] <genii> I noticed Dell is shipping a lot of these all-in-ones that won't work with win9x or *nix
[04:45] <genii> chainsaw It may be for a specific kernel version?
[04:45] <_kuja_> Printers are in general a royal pain in the butt to get working.
[04:46] <Chainsaw> Yeah genii, I have had to use some of those multifunction Dell printers.  They don't work with much of anything.
[04:46] <matthew> genii, where I work, we've had about 20 eMachine computers come in w/ blown powersupplies...most of the time there is a blasted chip on the mobo as well...lol, totally sucks for the customer
[04:47] <Chainsaw> Ironically, the TWAIN drivers work great.  I can scan all day long, just can't print.
[04:47] <genii> matthew I dunno if you ever heard of IPC computers... sortof offbrand HP etc... the running joke used to be IPC was for Incredible Piece of Crap
[04:47] <matthew> genii, what is IPC?
[04:47] <genii> we had 19 of 20 come back 1 week
[04:48] <goodthing> what file system should be used for software raid?
[04:48] <BluesKaj> nodding off ...time for old guys to sackout ...nite all
[04:48] <genii> IPC used to be an all-on-motherboard deal... packard-Bell stuff (proprietary crap like Dell)
[04:48] <_kuja_> you have to create a RAID partition first
[04:48] <_kuja_> then you can put whatever you want on it. I like xfs
[04:48] <goodthing> _kuja_: you mean with cfdisk?
[04:48] <matthew> genii, ah, ok. I meant that the southbridge would have a melted spot on it, with scorched sticker on top, lol
[04:49] <genii> Hard drive cabled hotglued in etc
[04:49] <_kuja_> erm, I'd set it up with the ubuntu alternate installer, it makes it a piece of cake
[04:49] <genii> Heh... thats what heatsinks are for :)
[04:49] <goodthing> _kuja_: ah, no i am not using raid for the OS, i am adding raid as backups
[04:49] <matthew> genii, no, I mean, like, _holes_ through the chip!
[04:50] <matthew> from power spikes...
[04:50] <genii> Sounds like extremely crappy power smoothing
[04:50] <_kuja_> goodthing, I know, I'm just saying that the alternate installer makes it really easy
[04:50] <_kuja_> parted can probably do a good job too, great tool.
[04:50] <matthew> genii, and it wasn't the southbridge...it was some kind of Darlington transistor that was heatsinked to a piece of metal...near the processor...
[04:50] <brandon_> !nvidia
[04:51] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:51] <goodthing> _kuja_: ah, i didn't got that, thnx
[04:52] <genii> matthew on discussions.hardwarecentral.com I see a lot of complaining about Emachines
[04:52] <matthew> ugh, it's 36 degrees outside...
[04:52] <matthew> genii, yeah, eMachines are no good
[04:52] <genii> Ah 36 Fahrenheit
[04:53] <matthew> genii, yeah, sometimes I wish liquid weather wasn't right all the time!
[04:54] <BrianSteffens> well i wish i knew how to download liquid weather! ;p
[04:54] <BrianSteffens> i get like a php file when i click a mirror lol
[04:54] <matthew> BrianSteffens, takes a little bit of doing...
[04:54] <matthew> BrianSteffens, you need to use a different mirror...
[04:54] <matthew> I used the 2nd or 3rd one, I think
[04:54] <BrianSteffens> matthew tried all 4 O_O
[04:55] <matthew> 0_o
[04:55] <matthew> BrianSteffens, want me to send a copy to you through email?
[04:55] <BrianSteffens> matthew hey now, that'd be excellent. briansteffens@gmail.com please :)
[04:55] <goodthing> _kuja_: what makes you think the text install is easy for making two RAID disks? (i cannot come to a 100% filtering process to start deciding)
[04:56] <matthew> BrianSteffens, ok, h/o
[04:56] <matthew> genii, I just got a "mail returned" message...what's the right email address for you?
[04:57] <genii> matthew Should be tfnoffice or maybe case TFNOffice @torfree.net
[04:57] <genii> matthew Tho it may have been switched to foil spam this week
[04:58] <matthew> genii, ok...my email is computingsolutionsbiz@gmail...if you want to make a filter for that...or whatever...
[04:58] <_kuja_> goodthing: because I've done it before
[04:58] <nic> werd
[04:58] <matthew> BrianSteffens, sending now...just save to disk and open w/ superkaramba
[04:58] <robotgeek> matthew: uhoh, your email is now on the internet. more spam to you.
[04:58] <BrianSteffens> tyvm :)
[04:58] <genii> OK hangon I'll send you one in a minute and then just reply to it
[04:59] <matthew> robotgeek, lol, yeah, oh well...
[04:59] <robotgeek> matthew: this is a publically archived channel
[04:59] <matthew> robotgeek, whoops
[04:59] <matthew> lol
[04:59] <Omnifrog>  my cats breath smells like cat food
[04:59] <Dr_willis> smell the other end...
[04:59] <Omnifrog> eew
[05:00] <goodthing> _kuja_: obvious, hmm, i guess i read a little more before going wild there
[05:00] <faked_> I can't play MIDI's in any of my media players, what's going on?
[05:01] <Omnifrog> your MIDI thing is broke!
[05:01] <Omnifrog> hehe
[05:01] <robotgeek> hmm, actually no
[05:01] <Omnifrog> sorry
[05:01] <Omnifrog> ignore me
[05:01] <robotgeek> !midi > faked_
[05:01] <faked_> thanks.
[05:02] <mank> hi all
[05:02] <mank> can anyone gimme a hand with grub config? I wanted to select the last entry as default
[05:03] <matthew> mank, open up your menu.lst
[05:03] <unix_infidel> mank: all you need to do is look at /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:03] <unix_infidel> the comments will tell you how to configure your default entry.
[05:03] <matthew> unix_infidel, lol, beat you to it!
[05:03] <unix_infidel> matthew: you're in luck, i just baked a new batch of cookies :)
[05:03] <matthew> unix_infidel, o...k...
[05:04] <genii> OK, sent
[05:04] <JRGC_> I'm trying to install Kubuntu 6.10 and I want to user reiserfs, but apparently there is no option for Reiserfs. Why is this?
[05:05] <matthew> JRGC_, why reiserfs?
[05:05] <mank> well i never liked grub :P
[05:05] <matthew> ext3 is a journaling fs as well
[05:05] <JRGC_> Why?????
[05:05] <matthew> mank, you might be interested in lilo
[05:05] <JRGC_> What do you mean why, is much faster!
[05:05] <matthew> !lilo > mank
[05:07] <genii> genii ghosting?
[05:07] <unix_infidel> reiser is faster for SOME things not ALL things...that's a common misconception.
[05:08] <unix_infidel> from a desktop users point of view, speaking in magnitudes, its probably less than the 2 threshold.
[05:08] <mank> ok, menu.lst is modified, now how can I see the changes without reboot?
[05:08] <matthew> mank, you can't
[05:08] <mank> x(
[05:09] <goodthing> _kuja_: got it working with this info http://www.mywheel.net/blog/index.php/software-raid-in-ubuntu
[05:10] <goodthing> works like a charm
[05:10] <matthew> BrianSteffens, sorry it's taking so long...gmail gakked on it at first, I think because it was running at the same time...sending again...
[05:10] <j03shm03> hello
[05:10] <genii> Anyone know about preseed/late_command as a way to HUP a netboot machine so no tftp boot etc?Preferable with sshd
[05:10] <mank> what's 'default   0'?
[05:10] <j03shm03> i just installed feisty and everything was working fine, and now it's booting to a black screen with a flashing "_"
[05:10] <matthew> genii, wow. no. idea.
[05:10] <matthew> j03shm03, your xorg.conf isn't configured correctly
[05:11] <j03shm03> how can i edit it?
[05:11] <matthew> j03shm03, happened to me a few times when I was trying to install fxglrx...
[05:11] <j03shm03> i just switched my driver to nvidia
[05:11] <mank> k, ill reboot.. thank you guys
[05:11] <Dr_willis> j03shm03,  try alt-ctrl-F1 through F6 see if ya get to a console
[05:11] <matthew> j03shm03, boot into recovery mode and type in sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:11] <matthew> I think
[05:11] <Chani> uhm.
[05:11] <Chani> Setting up flashplugin-nonfree (7.0.68~ubuntu3) ...
[05:11] <Chani> Downloading...  done.
[05:12] <Chani> automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes
[05:12] <genii> maybe preseed/late_command string chroot /target && ./etc/init.d/<something>      ?
[05:12] <j03shm03> how do i boot into recovery mode
[05:12] <Dr_willis> OR is it not even booting? you see the grub/boot logos and info?
[05:12] <matthew> hey Chani, long time no see!
[05:12] <Chani> I can't seem to install flash.
[05:12] <matthew> j03shm03, try control + alt+ F1
[05:12] <_kuja_> Chani: all you need to do is download it, then copy and paste the (one or two) files to your browsers plugin folder
[05:13] <Chani> _kuja_: what exactly do I need to download? apt doesn't tell me
[05:13] <matthew> j03shm03, if that doesn't work, then reboot and when GrUB pops up, hit Esc and selct recovery mode
[05:13] <j03shm03> ctrl+_alt+f1 did something, now what
[05:13] <metres> Hi all
[05:13] <jerp> is feisty the one that asks you during the install if you will be wanting to run beryl or compiz?
[05:13] <matthew> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:13] <matthew> j03shm03, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:14] <matthew> j03shm03, or, if you're handy with CLI text editors, vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:14] <genii> nano
[05:14] <matthew> j03shm03, and change the driver from nvidia to vesa
[05:14] <matthew> genii, why not vim?
[05:14] <_kuja_> kuja: to do what I just said, you would just download the zip file from the adobe website
[05:15] <JRGC_> Can someone please tell me which version of Kubuntu is capable of using Reiserfs?
[05:15] <genii> matthew I hate the arcane keystrokes LOL   :q! etc
[05:15] <_kuja_> That's for flash 7, ask if you want flash 9 (beta 2) instead
[05:15] <_kuja_> vim is awesome
[05:15] <matthew> genii, yeah, I only learned insert and save, lol
[05:15] <genii> Well I still have to put up with vipw anyhow
[05:15] <matthew> JRGC_, no idea
[05:16] <Chani> _kuja_: ok, I'll go hunt around the site, I guess...
[05:16] <j03shm03> vesa, i want nvidia
[05:16] <matthew> j03shm03, vesa will get you back to a working state.
[05:16] <_kuja_> d = delete, a = append, o = open new line below, O = open new line above, v = visual mode, p = paste, u = undo
[05:16] <matthew> j03shm03, I would recommend the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg plan
[05:17] <_kuja_> escape puts you back in command moe ...
[05:17] <_kuja_> *mode
[05:17] <j03shm03> okay i'm in gui, but how do i install nvidia
[05:17] <genii> matthew I dunno ... On these optiplex the i810 *HATES* vesa as a setting. The screen blinks hypnotically forever
[05:17] <matthew> genii, oh, didn't know that...well, then...hmmm
[05:17] <noiesmo> !envy | j03shm03
[05:17] <ubotu> j03shm03: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy
[05:17] <matthew> j03shm03, might want to try something different...
[05:17] <j03shm03> such as what?
[05:18] <_kuja_> j03shm03, it installs the latest nvidia
[05:18] <j03shm03> what does?
[05:18] <matthew> j03shm03, not sure...genii, want to help?
[05:18] <_kuja_> the envy script that was just mentioned
[05:18] <j03shm03> oh where can i get it?
[05:18] <noiesmo> !envy | j03shm03
[05:18] <ubotu> j03shm03: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy
[05:19] <matthew> j03shm03, this is the link: http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[05:19] <noiesmo> j03shm03, read the instructions/info ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[05:19] <brandon_> !envy
[05:19] <ubotu> envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy
[05:19] <mank> I tried to install edgy in a p3 and mouse don't worked
[05:19] <mank> :(
[05:20] <Chani> oh joy, the download stalled
[05:20] <Chani> maybe this is why apt-get gave up: the darn file isn't downloadable
[05:20] <mank> does serial mice work in edgy?
[05:20] <mank> *works
[05:21] <j03shm03> can't i just install nvidia-glx?
[05:21] <genii> matthew I haven't tried the NVidia setup yet,wouldn't be much help I'm afraid
[05:21] <noiesmo> j03shm03, are you wanting to run beryl/compiz
[05:21] <j03shm03> yes, potentially
[05:21] <_kuja_> Chani, that's just great, hmm, might as well try the version 9 then, if the download link for it works
[05:21] <noiesmo> j03shm03, use envy
[05:21] <_kuja_> http://labs.adobe.com
[05:22] <j03shm03> which script do i want
[05:22] <j03shm03> and how do i use it?
[05:22] <mank> have anyone problems with kmplot?
[05:22] <noiesmo> j03shm03, what you running edgy
[05:23] <j03shm03> feisty
[05:23] <mank> when I do zoom in the application crash
[05:24] <noiesmo> j03shm03, ok I dont know if envy covers feisty
[05:24] <_kuja_> living dangerously eh j03shm03
[05:24] <matthew> j03shm03, why are you using feisty?
[05:24] <j03shm03> yes
[05:24] <genii> grep kmplot /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:24] <noiesmo> j03shm03, try ubuntu+1 for help
[05:24] <j03shm03> ?
[05:25] <j03shm03> why does adept_manager keep asking for cdrom to install
[05:25] <noiesmo> j03shm03, #ubuntu+1 join channel
[05:25] <Chani> _kuja_: well, I tried following http://www.debianadmin.com/install-flash-player-9-update-in-ubuntu.html
[05:25] <Chani> no luck
[05:25] <_kuja_> I think envy would probably still work in feisty ....
[05:25] <Chani>  The HTTP server sent an invalid reply header
[05:25] <Chani> Failed to fetch http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/pool/edgy/3v1n0/flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.21.78.2ubuntu2+3v1ubuntu1_i386.deb The HTTP server sent an invalid reply header
[05:25] <genii> j03shm03 You need to comment out the cdrom entry in the /etc/apt/sources.list file
[05:25] <noiesmo> Chani, 32bit
[05:26] <Chani> huh?
[05:26] <noiesmo> Chani, dapper or edgy 32bit or 64bit
[05:26] <_kuja_> chani, one moment
[05:26] <noiesmo> Chani, here works fine > http://noiesmo.dnsalias.net/article.php?story=20061031161901533&query=flash
[05:27] <j03shm03> wow, feisty really changed from edgy
[05:27] <_kuja_> j03shm03, not yet it hasn't
[05:27] <Chani> noiesmo: I just did a dist-upgrade to edgy. 32-bit.
[05:27] <_kuja_> work on feisty has barely begun
[05:27] <Chani> aha, I managed to download the flash 9 files from adobe
[05:27] <noiesmo> Chani, my link to my site with instructions etc will work
[05:27] <_kuja_> currently I think it's just resyncing with debian
[05:28] <Chani> but.. I don't like installing something that's not from a package :/
[05:28] <noiesmo> Chani, :(
[05:28] <genii> yeah feistyu = pre-alpha 7.04 or 7.03
[05:28] <_kuja_> chani, flash 9 is one file. So it's not that bad
[05:28] <j03shm03> yeah restart isn't even on the panel
[05:28] <_kuja_> libflashplayer.so, and that's it, all you have to do is put it in the plugin folder.
[05:29] <sandbox> Question for everyone: Running kubuntu 6.10 edgy, I'm trying to install a command line MSN client and after running ./configure I'm getting an error ssl.h not found. Any Suggestions?
[05:29] <Chani> _kuja_: it still makes me uncomfortable. I wish there was a way to tell apt-get to use the file I downloaded
[05:29] <j03shm03> why can i not use the nvidia driver?
[05:29] <j03shm03> nvidia-glx
[05:29] <_kuja_> j03shm03, you can
[05:29] <_kuja_> let me check something while I'm at it
[05:29] <Chani> _kuja_: I'll have to write this down 'cause next time I try to upgrade stuff I'll have forgotten
[05:29] <genii> sandbox apt-get install openssh-server
[05:30] <genii> sorry not ssh ...I have ssh on the brain
[05:30] <genii> disregard last msg
[05:30] <metres> do anyone know how to make my sound works in kaffeine with kubuntu on amd64 ?
[05:30] <sandbox> I'll give it a try. Thanks. (Use to have an old friend named genii too (: )
[05:30] <_kuja_> metres, does it work in other apps?
[05:30] <metres> yes, with amarok...
[05:31] <genii> andbox Sorry disregard as above
[05:31] <genii> sandbox Sorry disregard as above
[05:31] <_kuja_> it's probably a problem with a particular file then ...
[05:31] <matthew> BrianSteffens, I just sent you a link to a putfile.com page...you can download it from there!
[05:31] <j03shm03> it is fixed!
[05:31] <genii> bleh I gotta get the KVM out of here terrible lag + lost letters
[05:32] <genii> ssl = secure socket layer etc
[05:33] <_kuja_> j03shm03, use the nvidia-glx package
[05:33] <_kuja_> it's the same thing envy would install
[05:33] <metres> kaffeine reads sound files but no sound in video files...
[05:33] <_kuja_> the 9631 driver.
[05:33] <matthew> if anyone wants to download liquidweather for superkaramba, but hasn't been able to find the actual file, here's a direct link to it. http://putstuff.putfile.com/26688/6840669
[05:33] <matthew> metres, try killall kaffeine
[05:33] <_kuja_> liquidweather is good stuff ...... I had used it for so long, maybe I should put it back on my desktop
[05:34] <genii> sandbox I'm at a windoze box right now but try something like apt-cache search ssl  to see if there is a parent package for it somewhere
[05:34] <metres> kaffeine: no process killed
[05:34] <genii> preferably source
[05:34] <_kuja_> wait, I feel silly and disoriented, I said something and he had already left >.>
[05:35] <genii> _kuja_ I feel silly and disoriented even before they leave :) LOL
[05:35] <_kuja_> hahaha
[05:36] <_kuja_> balancing this chat with 2 ims, messing around in a VM, looking for parts for a friend on newegg, and keeping myself sane. It's too much to do all at once, so I skip the last part o.O
[05:36] <tomlinsDotNet> trying to run pouetchess but after 3 moves it closes with error 'libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5b'
[05:36] <tomlinsDotNet> any ideas ?
[05:37] <brandon_> back
[05:37] <genii> OK time for obligatory help call for my prob: Anyone know how to chroot on a netboot installed box and do a system HUP for softboot to bypass tftpboot and let parent box in by ssh?
[05:38] <jontec> hey what do I put a the stop of a shell script? is it like !#usr/bin/bash?
[05:38] <genii> (these boxes are headless)
[05:38] <jerp> Where does a person find out if certain codecs are permitted in their country?
[05:38] <matthew> jerp, just download them...the notification is just covering the hosts butt
[05:39] <genii> jerp odecs you likely won't have a prob with, it's cryptography thats the main prob
[05:39] <jontec> sorry... at the top of a shell script
[05:39] <jerp> eww, sneaky
[05:39] <robotgeek> jontec: yes, its called she-bang
[05:39] <jerp> thanks for the info :)
[05:40] <_kuja_> jerp: I know for certain when they mention that, they're referring primarily to the US ... I know some other countries have similar restrictions though, but I forget which ones
[05:40] <Chani> yaay! flash! :)
[05:40] <superb0wl_> yea and you have it backwards shebang is #!
[05:40] <matthew> superb0wl_, what is the backwards shebang for?
[05:41] <matthew> superb0wl_, the end of file?
[05:41] <superb0wl_> matthew: bash parse errors :)
[05:41] <matthew> superb0wl_, ah...lol
[05:41] <genii> jontec usually you want #!/bin/bash
[05:41] <genii> leading / matters or it's all relative
[05:42] <intelikey> modprobe: WARNING: Error inserting genrtc
[05:43] <genii> intelikey anything with -vv ?
[05:44] <intelikey> tty24 [root@~]  modprobe -vv genrtc
[05:44] <intelikey> insmod /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/kernel/drivers/char/genrtc.ko
[05:44] <intelikey> FATAL: Error inserting genrtc (/lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/kernel/drivers/char/genrtc.ko): Device or resource busy
[05:45] <intelikey> genii the origenal error is burped out of pppd  i think
[05:45] <intelikey> this is probably why.     tty24 [root@~]  lsmod | grep rtc
[05:45] <intelikey> rtc                    13492  0
[05:46] <genii> does lsmod |grep genrtc show it installed already?
[05:46] <intelikey> heh
[05:46] <genii> try modprobe instead
[05:47] <intelikey> instead of what ?
[05:47] <genii> bleh need coffee
[05:47] <intelikey> :)
[05:47] <genii> LOL sorry looking at "insmod" line above
[05:47] <genii> good idea ...brb
[05:47] <jontec> 'night guys! Only one more day of mid-term exams to go!
[05:47] <brandon_> where do i change keyboard layout?
[05:48] <intelikey> kcontrol brandon_
[05:48] <brandon_> my kcontrol is empty, on feisty
[05:48] <intelikey> ooo yuch
[05:48] <brandon_> system settings?
[05:49] <intelikey> well never mind.
[05:50] <brandon_> what do you mean
[05:50] <brandon_> what should i do
[05:50] <brandon_> lol i try to type the at symbol and the wrong things come out
[05:50] <intelikey> ask in #ubuntu+1  i guess
[05:51] <matthew> man, there are a lot of peeps using feisty...
[05:52] <_kuja_> brandon_, did you dist-upgrade to feisty? Maybe not everything got upgraded, perhaps some things even got removed.
[05:52] <intelikey> matthew i always stand amazed how many think that alpha means stable and release ready....
[05:52] <murchadh_bhaba> brandon_, systemsettings should do it forya.
[05:52] <matthew> rofl
[05:52] <brandon_> kuja, i did a fresh install
[05:52] <_kuja_> ah
[05:53] <matthew> mmm, a bowl of golden grahams and three pieces of sourdough toast...gotta love it!
[05:53] <_kuja_> Well, if it isn't working, oh well ...
[05:53] <brandon_> install kcontrol?
[05:53] <intelikey> imo edgy should be labled beta still
[05:53] <matthew> intelikey, why? It works perfectly for me!
[05:53] <Rob-West> can someone help me with Konversation
[05:54] <Rob-West> i lost the main toolbar
[05:54] <brandon_> can i adept a new keyboard layer
[05:54] <brandon_> layout
[05:54] <_kuja_> rob-west: settings -> show main toolbar, I think
[05:54] <Rob-West> i cant find it
[05:54] <_kuja_> It should be in the settings menu, or is that gone into hiding as well?
[05:54] <Rob-West> its gone
[05:55] <brandon_> system settings
[05:55] <knapp> How do I convert vob's ripped from a DVD (using dvd::rip) to a avi?
[05:55] <_kuja_> rob-west: ctrl + m brings back the menubar
[05:55] <intelikey> matthew because stable should have had 99.9% of the bugs worked out already   so beta is the next logical declintion      beta does not mean junk  it means still being developted
[05:55] <murchadh_bhaba> brandon_, If systemsettings doesn't work, you've more problems than your keyboard!
[05:55] <Rob-West> thanks
[05:56] <matthew> intelikey, dapper has 99.9% bugs worked out?
[05:56] <_kuja_> knapp: k3b 1.0 (rc2) is an awesome dvd ripper, IMO, so easy to use.
[05:56] <matthew> intelikey, I had more problems with dapper than edgy...
[05:56] <_kuja_> and fast too
[05:56] <brandon_> hrm
[05:56] <knapp> kuja didnt know k3b could rip dvds?
[05:56] <intelikey> matthew no but i didn't want to start a flame war by saying dapper should still be called beta...
[05:56] <_kuja_> 99.9%? Not a chance
[05:57] <_kuja_> knapp: you'd have to download and build the newer version to get dvd ripping support, but it's a GREAT app for it.
[05:57] <superb0wl_> Yea i installed a fresh edgy today and it wasn't nearly as smooth as dapper
[05:57] <knapp> kuja, thanks ill check into that
[05:57] <matthew> intelikey, nice
[05:57] <brandon_> so am i left stuck?
[05:57] <_kuja_> http://www.k3b.org
[05:57] <intelikey> matthew notice superb0wl_ ^   case in point.
[05:57] <Dr_willis> interesting
[05:57] <_kuja_> brandon_ probably, I recommend installing edgy
[05:57] <Dr_willis> rips them to what? :)
[05:57] <brandon_> i need the new kernel
[05:57] <matthew> I kind of feel that we move too quickly from release to release, w/o time to get the bugs worked out...
[05:58] <_kuja_> dr_willis, xvid or mpeg4
[05:58] <_kuja_> last I checked, maybe more now
[05:58] <matthew> intelikey, ok, I concede the point.
[05:58] <intelikey> matthew debian mentality     (i share)
[05:58] <matthew> intelikey, what do you mean?
[05:58] <Rob-West> how do i check my kernal version
[05:58] <metres> brandon_ you can install edgy and upgrade the kernel...
[05:58] <brandon_> gah, i cant install any keyboard support?
[05:59] <brandon_> metres, how?
[05:59] <_kuja_> matthew: It also forces things to progress faster, which is IMO an advantage
[05:59] <metres> Rob-west : uname -rm
[05:59] <matthew> _kuja_, yes, that is true...I mean, look at Windows..._years_ between releases...not much innovation between them...
[05:59] <Rob-West> 2.6.17-10-generic is this the newest
[05:59] <_kuja_> Nothing quite like a deadline for motivating people to get things done :\
[06:00] <_kuja_> 2.6.19 is the kernel in feisty ....
 I kind of feel that we move too quickly from release to release, w/o time to get the bugs worked out...<<< <intelikey> matthew debian mentality   <<<< that's the attatude of the debian team   "no hurry, lets get it right and they will be glad they waited."
[06:00] <_kuja_> I'm not sure what the status of 2.6.20 is, and I don't really care much at the moment either :D
[06:00] <matthew> what's the difference between the .17 and .19 kernels?
[06:00] <metres> Rob-west : you have to download the kernel source from kernel.org and compile it
[06:01] <matthew> intelikey, isn't that what we should be looking for? Making it work for people, flawlessly?
[06:01] <superb0wl_> brandon_ I'm not sure why kde wouldn't do it but you could probably edit your xorg.conf
[06:01] <_kuja_> might be able to slip the kernel in from the feisty repo?
[06:01] <ForgeAus> grrr is there another way to set screen os other than through system settings?
[06:01] <Rob-West> wont the system updates do that
[06:01] <nic> what is better to use wine or libwine on kubuntu?
[06:01] <intelikey> matthew i said i share that philosophy
[06:01] <_kuja_> ForgeAus: how about kcontrol
[06:01] <matthew> intelikey, ah, ok.
[06:01] <ForgeAus> brb I'll try it (assuming I can log in)
[06:02] <nic> im a noob and I am trying to get my linux rig to play counter strike source
[06:02] <_kuja_> I think I saw something about getting CSS working in wine on linuxgamers.net not long ago
[06:03] <ForgeAus> hows recovery mode work?
[06:03] <brandon_> superb0wl_: what should i change the layout to?
[06:03] <lupine_85> it's just single user mode
[06:03] <_kuja_> it gives you a single terminal session, logged in as root
[06:03] <nic> im just figuring out synaptic p manager...and I think I have downloaded win some where....
[06:03] <lupine_85> e.g. kernel boot parameters += "single"
[06:03] <intelikey> lupine_85 is it ?     nothing gui about it ?
[06:03] <matthew> ForgeAus, it boots into runlevel 2 (aka, command line)
[06:04] <lupine_85> matthew: now, it doesn't
[06:04] <nic> what is a dummy package?
[06:04] <lupine_85> no*
[06:04] <lupine_85> runlevel 2 is the default runlevel in ubuntu - and it's GUI
[06:04] <brandon_>   option "XkbModel" "jp106"
[06:04] <brandon_>   option "XkbLayout" "jp,jp"
[06:04] <brandon_>   option "XkbVariant" "latin,"
[06:04] <intelikey> matthew ubuntu default is runlevel 2
[06:04] <matthew> lupine_85, hmmm, that's strange...
[06:04] <lupine_85> recovery mode == single user mode
[06:04] <matthew> I though runlevel 5 was....my bad
[06:04] <_kuja_> a dummy package is one that was used to smooth the upgrade process from one version of a distribution to another, like going from dapper to edgy
[06:04] <genii> ie init 0
[06:04] <lupine_85> runlevels 2-5 are identical in ubunti, anyway
[06:04] <lupine_85> ubuntu*
[06:05] <lupine_85> unless ubunti is the plural :p
[06:05] <genii> heh kuja
[06:05] <brandon_> kuja look up your keyboard layout for me
[06:05] <brandon_> for the three lines i pasted
[06:05] <Rob-West> im a noob
[06:05] <genii> ubuntui ?
[06:05] <intelikey> default ubuntu runlevels are  0 halt  1 single user 2-5 normal (all alike) 6 reboot
[06:05] <lupine_85> matthew: runlevel 2 being command-line only is default for most distros :p
[06:05] <ForgeAus> yay I got my Kubuntu back
[06:05] <matthew> lupine_85, ah, ok...
[06:05] <brandon_> super
[06:05] <brandon_> superb0wl_: you there?
[06:06] <Rob-West> i know some basic stuff
[06:06] <Rob-West> like apt-get and such
[06:07] <murchadh_bhaba> lupine_85, We are all ubuntorum? ??)
[06:07] <intelikey> ubuntus ubuntui ubunti ubunties  ???    as you can see i don't speak afrikanees
[06:07] <_kuja_> lupine, do others use runlevel 3 for gui, or something like that then? ..... I didn't really figure out what I was doing until I was running debian afterall
[06:08] <oem> man i love linux
[06:08] <oem> too bad i need to switch my user name now lol
[06:08] <deus> hello
[06:08] <oem> i just deleted vista
[06:08] <genii> kubuntuist
[06:08] <oem> what a crappy OS
[06:08] <matthew> oem, good for you
[06:08] <oem> it takes up to much ram
[06:08] <intelikey> oem user name or just your irc nickname ?
[06:08] <superb0wl_> brandon_ are you in japan or america
[06:08] <_kuja_> congragulations oem :D
[06:09] <matthew> kubunter?
[06:09] <oem> its my IRC name lol
[06:09] <deus> haha I dont think I'll ever need vista
[06:09] <oem> i just loaded konversation for the first time
[06:09] <oem> lol
[06:09] <genii> kubunterer?
[06:09] <intelikey> oem /nick new_name
[06:09] <genii> kubunturer?
[06:09] <deus> actually, It would help if kubuntu would run correctly
[06:09] <matthew> deus, what's the problem?
[06:09] <brandon_> america
[06:09] <PhWickett> sweet
[06:09] <PhWickett> thanx
[06:09] <genii> kubunturer = kubuntu adventurer
[06:10] <superb0wl_> _brandon if you are in america you should change the XkbModel to "pc104" and the XKbLayout to "us"
[06:10] <deus> I tried to burn and run a liveCD, but it failed twice.  I checked the md5 sum and everything
[06:10] <matthew> genii ftw
[06:10] <superb0wl_> and delete the line about latin
[06:10] <PhWickett> anyone know of a good linux book?
[06:10] <brandon_> and XkbVariant
[06:10] <intelikey> PhWickett also you should consider registering what ever nick you settle on.
[06:10] <PhWickett> i already know the basics i just need something that has all the linux commands :)
[06:10] <_kuja_> man am I wired ... this ice cream is great stuff
[06:10] <matthew> deus, did you burn the image as a file? You need to burn the image to the disk...as an image, not as a file.
[06:11] <deus> Yeah, I got that
[06:11] <brandon_> brb
[06:11] <intelikey> PhWickett install  rutebook    and read all about linux.
[06:11] <intelikey> !rutebook
[06:11] <matthew> deus, it won't boot at all?
[06:11] <PhWickett> whats that
[06:11] <ubotu> rutebook: Linux: Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition, an online book. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0-1 (edgy), package size 5468 kB, installed size 8264 kB
[06:11] <deus> well, the CD put the loading screen on my computer, and I chose the menu option to boot it, but it hung midway through
[06:11] <PhWickett> i loaded 5 gigs of DDR2 ram for vista
[06:11] <_kuja_> deus, did you check the md5 of the image after you burned it .... there's an option for that in k3b: "Verify written data [checkbox] "
[06:11] <PhWickett> lol
[06:11] <matthew> deus, do you have an ATI video card?
[06:11] <PhWickett> needless to say that was a mistake
[06:11] <deus> It just stopped, and did nothing for 30 minutes
[06:11] <deus> yeah
[06:11] <nic> crap... I am having trouble downloading the wine package with synaptic
[06:11] <deus> yeah
[06:11] <matthew> Philip5, did vista still run slowly?
[06:12] <nic> yanyone help me?
[06:12] <_kuja_> whatcha need, nic?
[06:12] <PhWickett> anyone who wants vista just let me know
[06:12] <PhWickett> i have a good code for it
[06:12] <deus> whats wrong with ati video?  Is there somesort of compatibility issue?
[06:12] <PhWickett> i work at Dell
[06:12] <matthew> deus, you may need to use the alternate install cd...your card may not be supported...
[06:12] <intelikey> nic which release is that ?
[06:12] <nic> kuja you are always helpful!
[06:12] <deus> crap
[06:12] <matthew> PhWickett, you must be kidding.
[06:12] <matthew> lol
[06:12] <PhWickett> vista needs at least 2 gigs of ram
[06:12] <matthew> ala "wedding crashers"
[06:13] <_kuja_> what happened when you popped in 5gb/RAM phwickett?
[06:13] <PhWickett> lol i wish i was
[06:13] <PhWickett> it went ok then
[06:13] <PhWickett> and kubuntu halls as now lol
[06:13] <nic> 0.9.27
[06:13] <deus> How do I know it will work once I get it up?  If its already incompatable with my video card...
[06:13] <matthew> deus, it's ok...I'll walk you through it, but you'll need to download drivers for your card, or get another card...I think.
[06:13] <intelikey> !info wine
[06:13] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB
[06:13] <matthew> genii, what do you think?
[06:14] <intelikey> nic you are using fisty ?
[06:14] <PhWickett> i have a MSDN subscription so my code will only work on 10 installs/PC's, thats when i decided to screw windows and jump on the linux bandwagon lol
[06:14] <brandon_> sweet, it's fixed
[06:14] <deus> It a laptop.  I cant service it
[06:14] <matthew> PhWickett, good for you. Come here if you have any problems...
[06:14] <genii> matthew I'll have to check scroll... my roommates are horsing around here :)
[06:14] <matthew> deus, oh.
[06:14] <PhWickett> does anyone know the root password on a kubuntu install?
[06:14] <nic> fisty?
[06:14] <_kuja_> Windows Vista sounds like a giant waste of resources ....
[06:14] <PhWickett> i do a su command but i can never get the password right lol
[06:14] <PhWickett> yeah , it is
[06:14] <nic> no I dont think so.. I am using sunaptic package manager..
[06:14] <deus> Im not sure if Id like to risk it.  Can we go over it in detail first?
[06:14] <_kuja_> phwickett, by default the root account is locked, and has no password
[06:15] <_kuja_> !sudo
[06:15] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:15] <nic> synaptic.
[06:15] <intelikey> !info wine fisty
[06:15] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB
[06:15] <deus> would you mind talking privately with me?
[06:15] <matthew> deus, hmmm, you don't/can't change the card.
[06:15] <PhWickett> me?
[06:15] <PhWickett> who lol
[06:15] <deus> If figured
[06:15] <intelikey> where did synaptic find wine-0.9.27  ?
[06:15] <genii> Bleh I'm not up to a long ATI video nightmare tonight LOL
[06:15] <matthew> deus, sure
[06:15] <nic> !info fisty
[06:15] <ubotu> Package fisty does not exist in any distro I know
[06:15] <deus> how do we do that?
[06:15] <PhWickett> but everytime i enter no password it still wont let me in\
[06:15] <matthew> genii, got enough of that w/ me?
[06:15] <deus> Can we just make up a chat room?
[06:15] <PhWickett> like i leave it blank within Bash
[06:15] <intelikey> !fisty | nic
[06:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fisty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:16] <genii> matthew  :) Almost
[06:16] <_kuja_> phwickett, as I said, by default the root account is LOCKED
[06:16] <PhWickett> how do i unlock it
[06:16] <matthew> !feisty
[06:16] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[06:16] <intelikey> !feisty | nic
[06:16] <ubotu> nic: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[06:16] <matthew> PhWickett, you don't need to
[06:16] <_kuja_> Rather than unlocking it, why not use sudo??.......
[06:16] <_kuja_> !sudo | phwickett
[06:16] <ubotu> phwickett: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:16] <PhWickett> so how do i access it?
[06:16] <nic> im using edgy atm
[06:17] <PhWickett> sorry im confused
[06:17] <nic> just dowloaded it yesterday
[06:17] <PhWickett> i apologize
[06:17] <_kuja_> phwickett, click that link, read up :)
[06:17] <matthew> PhWickett, sudo is a way of saying "Super User DO"
[06:17] <PhWickett> ah ok
[06:17] <PhWickett> so that gives me root/admin privlages?
[06:17] <intelikey> nic and you say the wine version is 0.9.27 ?    where did synaptic find wine-0.9.27  ?
[06:17] <_kuja_> Right
[06:17] <PhWickett> ah ok
[06:17] <PhWickett> thanx for clearing that up
[06:17] <PhWickett> it was really starting to piss me off lol
[06:17] <nic> im on the wine website..
[06:17] <deus> matthew, do you have google talk or aim?
[06:18] <superb0wl_> why do you ubuntu guys all hate the root user so much
[06:18] <PhWickett> what was the package with all the commands?
[06:18] <_kuja_> superb0w1, I never said I hate root.
[06:18] <genii> superb0wl Must be that horrible red background
[06:18] <matthew> deus, I'd rather that you just chat with me privately...I opened up a room and sent you a message
[06:18] <intelikey> nic so how are you using synaptic to install from the winehq site ?     did you make that a special repo ?
[06:18] <_kuja_> phwickett, which commands?
[06:18] <matthew> superb0wl_, because you can screw things up w/o knowing...
[06:19] <nic> i tried... i dont know if it worked.
[06:19] <deus> oh, I dont think I got it?
[06:19] <matthew> deus, then lets chat here...it might help someone else...
[06:19] <superb0wl_> yea i guess so i just get annoyed typing sudo all the time
[06:19] <deus> okay, thats find, it just there was alot going on
[06:19] <nic> it didnt take the repo
[06:19] <nic> I will try again
[06:19] <intelikey> nic did you try using the 0.9.22 version that was already in the ubuntu repos ?
[06:19] <_kuja_> intelikey: wine has a debian/ubuntu repo that's kept up-to-date with the latest releases of wine, with a new one coming out every month or so
[06:19] <matthew> deus, just preface anything you want to say to me with matthew...you can just start typing my name and hit tab to complete it
[06:20] <nic> I guess I could do that...
[06:20] <superb0wl_> although i'm trying to train myself to just do sudo bash when i feel the urge to go on a root tear
[06:20] <nic> i didnt know if a dummy package was a good thing to download or not
[06:20] <deus> matthew, anyway, Are you sure there isnt anyway I can load up the liveCD, just to make sure it works?
[06:20] <genii> brain twister: sudo su
[06:20] <_kuja_> sudo -s, or sudo -i would work also superb0wl
[06:20] <matthew> deus, not sure I know what you mean.
[06:21] <nic> intelikey.... I am going to try to us the 0.9.22 version
[06:21] <intelikey> _kuja_ i know there are third party repos.   i'm trying to lead to the point that the ubuntu repos have it and work.   he said that repo was not working for him.
[06:21] <PhWickett> where can i get rutebook?
[06:21] <deus> well, Im worried that it wont load somethings up correctly or something will go seriously wrong.  Its nice to know that it works as a liveCD
[06:21] <matthew> !rutebook
[06:21] <ubotu> rutebook: Linux: Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition, an online book. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0-1 (edgy), package size 5468 kB, installed size 8264 kB
[06:21] <_kuja_> intelikey: gotcha
[06:21] <matthew> PhWickett, hmm, let me look...
[06:21] <intelikey> nic you will need to comment out the winehq repo and apply changes befor you do.
[06:21] <PhWickett> it seems i cant get it with the package updater etc.
[06:21] <PhWickett> this OS even updates faster than windows lol
[06:22] <nic> should I be using the  dev version or the regular one
[06:22] <deus> matthew, for example, How do I know that I'll be able to load the graphics card?
[06:22] <genii> archive.ubuntu.com has been timing out on me. I was mirroring it and it took 2 days
[06:22] <matthew> PhWickett, http://packages.debian.org/unstable/doc/rutebook
[06:22] <PhWickett> thanx mathew
[06:22] <intelikey> nic regular
[06:22] <nic> ty intel
[06:22] <intelikey> np
[06:22] <matthew> deus, what is your video card? I'll look for drivers...
[06:22] <deus> matthew, obviously, Im a little new at this
[06:22] <deus> ati mobility radeon
[06:22] <matthew> deus, np, we all start somewhere.
[06:22] <_kuja_> !ati
[06:22] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:22] <matthew> deus, lemme look
[06:23] <matthew> _kuja_, yeah, that
[06:23] <genii> matthew I'll be around but I've been up almost 40 hours so a bit woozy/disoriented and still drinking coffee
[06:23] <nic> crap...
[06:23] <matthew> genii, ok...so...any idea on the p4?
[06:23] <PhWickett> get some sleep lol
[06:23] <deus> matthew, Most linux users are good people, but sometimes it seems like there's such an ivory tower.  Thanks for all your help
[06:23] <_kuja_> 40 hours .... jeeze
[06:23] <jerp> how do you unload the w32codecs into the i386 chroot ?
[06:23] <_kuja_> I've only been up for 12 or so, and I'm already feeling sleepy
[06:23] <matthew> deus, no prob...I had that experience w/ genii...he's great...
[06:24] <PhWickett> guys thanx for all the help i really appreciate it
[06:24] <PhWickett> night
[06:24] <PhWickett> ill b back tomorrow if anyone uses this channel often anyways
[06:24] <_kuja_> jerp, copy them intot he chroot/usr/lib/win32 folder ....... or was it chroot/usr/lib/codecs .... I can't remember
[06:24] <genii> gnite Wickett
[06:24] <PhWickett> and remember friends dont let friends use vista
[06:24] <jerp> ok
[06:24] <PhWickett> lol
[06:24] <genii> dues Do you know the more exact model of your card? eg: x300 x800 etc
[06:24] <deus> ummm...
[06:25] <deus> I dont remember
[06:25] <matthew> deus, do you have a number that goes along with the card (ie. 9700)?
[06:25] <matthew> lol
[06:25] <deus> matthew, It displayed on my bois menu.  I can reboot and tell you
[06:25] <lupine_85> lspci is your friend
[06:25] <matthew> deus, ok, I'll be here!
[06:25] <matthew> lupine_85, very true
[06:25] <matthew> deus
[06:25] <deus> yeah?
[06:25] <matthew> deus, lspci
[06:25] <genii> lupine_85 yuppers
[06:25] <deus> oh duh
[06:26] <MgA_Mark> Hello compilerwriter and everyone
[06:26] <_kuja_> phwickett, don't worry, I won't >:)
[06:26] <deus> matthew, sorry, it just says ati technologies unknown device
[06:26] <superb0wl> what do you guys all use for music players I kindof like amarok but it's just killing my system
[06:27] <deus> matthew, should I go ahead and reboot?
[06:27] <genii> Xine
[06:27] <matthew> deus, ok..,yeah, go ahead and reboot
[06:27] <deus> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 714                                                                                            5
[06:27] <deus> be back in a few minutes
[06:27] <MgA_Mark> Can anyone answer an install question?
[06:27] <matthew> !anyone | MgA_Mark
[06:27] <ubotu> MgA_Mark: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:28] <MgA_Mark> ok
[06:28] <ForgeAus> hmmm kcontrol didn't work... well it worked but still crashed the video settings
[06:28] <_kuja_> ForgeAus: weird
[06:29] <genii> my bet is x1400 ati
[06:29] <ForgeAus> it runs the same applet
[06:29] <matthew> genii, why?
[06:29] <ForgeAus> I can change things like the background and taskbar (erm panelbar or whatever its calleD)
[06:29] <_kuja_> I can answer any question, it's just a matter of whether my answer will be informative and helpful, or not.
[06:29] <ForgeAus> I can change themes and stuff
[06:29] <genii> matthew http://www.phoronix.com/lch/?k=entry&l=119&t=ATI
[06:29] <ForgeAus> just not the display res
[06:29] <MgA_Mark> Last night, I was using adept to install Firefox. That worked fine. I also installed something called "gnuchess" .  It said it was installed, but I couldn't find it. I don't have a games files. I have an internet file, and that's where i found Firefox. How does this adept work?
[06:30] <nic> I dont have the repository working yet int!
[06:30] <nic> I click on new.
[06:30] <matthew> MgA_Mark, I would stop using adept, first of all. use synaptic. to run gnuchess...hmm, go to a konsole, and type in gnuchess
[06:30] <nic> select binary (deb)
[06:31] <MgA_Mark> Sorry, I'm not in front of my Linux computer now. So synaptic is a lot better?
[06:31] <nic> the type in deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main     in the url
[06:31] <intelikey> MgA_Mark gnuchess will need something like xboard to run on.    then issue a command something like; xboard -searchTime 0:3  -showThinking True -initialMode MachineBlack -searchDepth 1 -searchTime 0:5    <<< from konsole to start it.
[06:31] <matthew> MgA_Mark, I think so...I erased my entire kubuntu install w/ adept...
[06:31] <matthew> lol
[06:32] <nic> reload... then  it doesnt show up in the loaded repositories
[06:33] <_kuja_> there's a kde interface for chess playing available, knights, I'm not sure how good it is/n't
[06:33] <intelikey> one can make that command string into a script and place it on the desktop in the menu or even on the taskbar  for a luancher if thay like. @ MgA_Mark
[06:33] <MgA_Mark> Well, at least the Firefox worked. I also tried finding a gmail notifier, and couldn't. And I couldn't watch a movie in Quicktime. I guess there are lots of issues when you're first starting out.
[06:33] <genii> I miss Sargon III
[06:33] <deus> matthew, you there?
[06:34] <_kuja_> !info knights | mga_mark
[06:34] <matthew> deus, yessir
[06:34] <ubotu> knights: A chess interface for the K Desktop Environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6-7.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 784 kB, installed size 1764 kB
[06:34] <matthew> deus, got some info?
[06:34] <genii> x1400 ?
[06:34] <genii> :)
[06:34] <deus> okay, its an ati mobility radeon x1400
[06:34] <deus> yeah
[06:34] <matthew> genii,  genii ftw
[06:34] <intelikey> MgA_Mark for more of a challange increese the  -searchTime  setting.   man gnuchess  for all the details.
[06:34] <matthew> lol
[06:34] <ForgeAus> whats kickstart?
[06:34] <intelikey> or man xboard   even
[06:34] <_kuja_> kickstart is an alternative to kmenu
[06:34] <ForgeAus> I got a radeon! top end one... All in one wonder!
[06:34] <MgA_Mark> Well, I guess there is a way to get all those plugins to work, right?
[06:34] <robotgeek> ForgeAus: its the new user menu in suse
[06:35] <matthew> deus, ok, I'll be up for a few hours...want to get to it?
[06:35] <genii> dues OK so the fglrx drivers are what you want
[06:35] <ForgeAus> hows it different?
[06:35] <deus> sure, Ill try
[06:35] <deus> okay
[06:35] <deus> quite a name, fglrx
[06:35] <genii> darn dEus not dues
[06:35] <matthew> deus, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:35] <deus> yeah
[06:36] <BrianSteffens> !java
[06:36] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[06:36] <intelikey> MgA_Mark now.  that was about the first question. seeing that you have asked several more in the mean time... would you like me to address any of them ?
[06:36] <matthew> BrianSteffens, did you get my email?
[06:36] <MgA_Mark> Yes please
[06:36] <MgA_Mark> Thanks
[06:36] <intelikey> which    and don't say all
[06:37] <deus> so what would you have me do, and how risky is it
[06:37] <MgA_Mark> Well, plugin for realplayer, windows media player, quicktime. Are they easy to get?
[06:37] <robotgeek> !codecs > MgA_Mark
[06:37] <matthew> deus, If it doesn't work, you can always reinstall windows...there is no risk of hardware damage
[06:38] <genii> deus Do you know which driver you are currently using?
[06:38] <BrianSteffens> matthew: i got The requested URL /getfile/12105285196341411665930538368516818967421166588979117/lwp-13.3.skz was not found on this server. error
[06:38] <MgA_Mark> Do you just download something called "codecs"?
[06:38] <intelikey> MgA_Mark the plugins that are easy to get will be through the repos and package manager    check your priviet messages for info.
[06:38] <matthew> BrianSteffens, hmmm
[06:38] <matthew> BrianSteffens, out of ideas...sorry
[06:38] <deus> matthew, I know that, I have the green disk that came with the laptop.  Thats the dell reinstall disk, right?
[06:38] <intelikey> private maybe.
[06:38] <deus> genii, donno
[06:38] <matthew> genii, he is booting a livecd that freezes
[06:38] <BrianSteffens> matthew well thanks for trying =)
[06:38] <matthew> BrianSteffens, np
[06:38] <nic> _kuja_ can you help me resolve the repostitory issue I am having.. I cant add a repository for wine
[06:39] <deus> yeah, well, actually, Im running simplyMEPIS
[06:39] <matthew> BrianSteffens, might want to try that link again tomorrow...might work then...
[06:39] <_kuja_> Hmm, let me see somethigna bout it nic
[06:39] <BrianSteffens> matthew okeedokee
[06:39] <deus> matthew, I have a dual boot
[06:39] <matthew> deus, oh, ok...
[06:39] <intelikey> !repos > MgA_Mark
[06:39] <genii> deus freezing liveCD can be a few diff erent probs not all having to do with video
[06:39] <deus> hmmm...
[06:39] <MgA_Mark> What is repos?
[06:39] <superb0wl> so i just installed xmms and when i the little "D" icon to make the interface bigger it wigs out the display and give and error like this: Gdk-ERROR **: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
[06:39] <deus> genii, can you advise?
[06:39] <matthew> genii, he said that he md5summed the iso and burned the disc twice...
[06:40] <genii> eg: flawed CD ...bad CD drive etc
[06:40] <matthew> genii, please
[06:40] <nic> ty _kuja_
[06:40] <matthew> genii, ah...
[06:40] <genii> deus If you are using a Mitsumi drive, I'd recommend tossing it
[06:40] <intelikey> MgA_Mark again look at the other tabs of your irc client   private messages from ubotu
[06:40] <Dr_willis> superb0wl,  xmms has some issues with some of the newer X things..  i forget the details however. You may want to check into the beep-media-player, or some otehr players.
[06:40] <deus> matthew, Its whatever came with the computer
[06:41] <jerp> kuja the documentation says /usr/local/lib/codecs/ is default for the mplayer w32codecs, but do you know if a conflict could arise with xine in that it will search for w32codecs or is focused on a default folder.
[06:41] <ForgeAus> yay adept found a resolution switcher app!
[06:41] <robotgeek> imbrandon: please check server window
[06:41] <Dr_willis> superb0wl,  i think theres some fix,  but i forget the details.
[06:41] <ForgeAus> finally!
[06:41] <deus> matthew, It burned knoppix and mepis correctly
[06:41] <ForgeAus> after that + KDevelop + KOffice and I'll b happy!
[06:41] <intelikey> MgA_Mark is that working for you now ?     or do you still not see the answers you want ?
[06:41] <MgA_Mark> I'm there, but I don't see anything yet.
[06:41] <matthew> genii, what do you think? I'm thinking gfx card still...
[06:41] <_kuja_> You followed the instructions for adding it that were on winehq.org, and what did it do nic? If all else fails, you can download the deb from http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/pool/main/w/wine/
[06:41] <intelikey> ok.
[06:41] <genii> deus OK so we need to assume it was made OK then :) but that would be the first check before else
[06:41] <intelikey> !repos | MgA_Mark
[06:41] <ubotu> MgA_Mark: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:41] <deus> matthew, of course, that was using windows
[06:42] <deus> matthew, okay
[06:42] <intelikey> !mp3 | MgA_Mark
[06:42] <ubotu> MgA_Mark: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:42] <intelikey> MgA_Mark   ^^^
[06:42] <ForgeAus> adept has slowed down alot tho
[06:42] <matthew> deus, when you boot it, have you tried the "Check disk for errors" option?
[06:42] <MgA_Mark> Now I see
[06:42] <ForgeAus> I might need to get rid of packages I don't want/need
[06:42] <genii> deus What is the exact problem/symptom please?
[06:42] <robotgeek> how do i check if my hard drive is dying?
[06:42] <intelikey> robotgeek badblocks
[06:43] <_kuja_> oftentimes you can just listen?
[06:43] <deus> matthew, yeah, when I do that it runs for a while then hangs
[06:43] <MgA_Mark> Lots of info, that's for sure.
[06:43] <ForgeAus> is there a better archive utility than ark?
[06:43] <jerp> robot, go ahead and take a shotgun to it and put it out of it's misery
[06:43] <deus> genii, I get the splash screen, tell it to boot, run it for a while, and then it hangs.
[06:43] <intelikey> _kuja_ if it's the controller ?
[06:43] <matthew> genii, hmmm, maybe not the video card after all...
[06:44] <robotgeek> intelikey: /sbin/badblocks: Input/output error
[06:44] <matthew> deus, why are you trying kubuntu? just something different?
[06:44] <deus> So it boots the cd, but it wont boot the operating system.
[06:44] <genii> deus This drive is built-in to your notebook?
[06:44] <superb0wl> BTW 'export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 && xmms' fixes that xmms bug
[06:44] <_kuja_> I'm sleepy, I think I'm going to go to bed
[06:45] <intelikey> MgA_Mark it's very easy to get overloaded with information in here.  that's why i was only addressing one question at a time.
[06:45] <genii> gnite kuja :)
[06:45] <_kuja_> You be sure to get some sleep too genii staying up for days on end isn't healthy
[06:45] <_kuja_> and good night :)
[06:45] <deus> matthew, yeah, I tried to install kdevelop on mepis, and after three weeks of failure, someone finally told me that I had an out of date xwindows (even though the os was from thanksgiving) and that it wasnt worth the trouble to upgrade
[06:45] <MgA_Mark> I agree. I feel with the help available here, it will turn out ok. It's really a great community, as far as I can tell.
[06:45] <intelikey> robotgeek you should probably read up on man badblocks before you use it.  so i'm not inclined to give full syntax examples.
[06:46] <genii> There is an alternate method but it involves having to make floppies and do a net install etc bypassing CD altogether
[06:46] <intelikey> MgA_Mark thanks ;/
[06:46] <matthew> deus, ah...ok.
[06:46] <deus> in other words, if I wanted to install programs like kdevelop, I would need to get a new operating system.
[06:46] <robotgeek> intelikey: i seem to have a bigger issue. i get the same thing for any other command
[06:46] <matthew> deus, lol, genii knows all about net installs! :)
[06:46] <_kuja_|sleep> deus, what makes you say that, I have kdevelop installed
[06:46] <brandon_> i need help editing fstab to mount a drive
[06:47] <intelikey> robotgeek sounds a lor like kernel side issue    as in wrong module for the device
[06:47] <reaper1> I need help trying to figure out why my touchscreen won't work
[06:47] <MgA_Mark> Thank you. I've got to call it a night now. I'll be back. Thanks so much for everything so far.
[06:47] <intelikey> lor lot
[06:47] <matthew> brandon_, sudo kate /etc/fstab
[06:47] <deus> _kuja_|sleep, are you running mepis?
[06:47] <_kuja_|sleep> No
[06:47] <intelikey> MgA_Mark one word before you go.
[06:47] <_kuja_|sleep> kubuntu, well, sort of
[06:47] <MgA_Mark> ok
[06:47] <deus> mepis doesnt come with or support any kind of software development
[06:48] <brandon_> matthew, now what do i edit it to?
[06:48] <deus> kinda useless for me
[06:48] <brandon_> what line do i add?
[06:48] <_kuja_|sleep> text install + kde-core + kubuntu-default-settings + any and all packages I felt like adding ...
[06:48] <deus> matthew, do you know whats wrong with my computer and my liveCD?
[06:48] <reaper1> If I've got a block of text in my xorg.conf for my touchscreen, I know it's set to the right port, why shouldn't my touchscreen work?
[06:48] <matthew> brandon_, what are you trying to do?
[06:48] <deus> genii, this is an internal hard drive
[06:48] <brandon_> mount my ext3 backup drive
[06:49] <matthew> deus, I'm kinda thinking it's the vid card.
[06:49] <brandon_> and set automount on bootup
[06:49] <intelikey> MgA_Mark most people that come here for their first linux experance have the mis conception that because they know a lot about M$ windows they should know a lot about linux.   they fail to recall that they spent many years gathering what they know about windows....
[06:49] <_kuja_|sleep> deus, you *might* be able to use ubuntu's repositories from mepis
[06:49] <deus> genii, It burned at least three iso's correctly on windows
[06:49] <intelikey> MgA_Mark be patient.  :)
[06:49] <robotgeek> intelikey: hmm, let me check from a livecd
[06:49] <genii> deus I think your drive is probably having issues
[06:49] <deus> oh, no _kuja_|sleep, I dont think thats the problem
[06:49] <MgA_Mark> That's true. I will be patient. Thanks again.
[06:50] <MgA_Mark> Good night.
[06:50] <intelikey> good night and good luck to your pinguin.
[06:50] <matthew> brandon_, hmm, can't help you there...sorry
[06:50] <brandon_> matthew?
[06:50] <brandon_> can anyone help me mount a drive?
[06:50] <reaper1> How do I get a "mutouch" driver?
[06:50] <deus> genii, you sure?  What can I do?
[06:51] <intelikey> brandon_ sure    sudo mount /dev/<devicenode> /media/>mountpoint>
[06:51] <intelikey> now brandon_ if you
[06:51] <brandon_> how do i figure out devicenode?
[06:51] <genii> deus Well, that it hangs when checking the cd yet the md5sum is ok and it gave no errors burning is a clue
[06:51] <deus> genii, I can burn it on another computer that i have in my house.  I can reboot into windows
[06:51] <brandon_> its not displaying with df in term
[06:51] <intelikey> now brandon_ if you'll be moe specific i will too
[06:51] <intelikey> brandon_ df works on mounted drives.
[06:51] <brandon_> i don't know where the drive is located
[06:52] <brandon_> how can i probe for it?
[06:52] <intelikey> fdsik -l   or cat /proc/partitions
[06:52] <intelikey> the latter is probably better.
[06:52] <genii> deus If it's the reading part of the cd that is failing due to a bad CD drive, you need to test the cd on another system to see if it's good
[06:52] <genii> deus If it works OK somewhere else it's the drive. If so, you need another one or an alternate install method bypassing hte CD
[06:53] <intelikey> brandon_ that was assuming it's an hd
[06:53] <deus> hmmm...
[06:53] <brandon_> it is, and it's not showing up
[06:53] <brandon_> reboot?
[06:53] <intelikey> if not i have other sujestions.
[06:53] <intelikey> reboot ?
[06:53] <robotgeek> nope, we dont reboot on linux
[06:53] <intelikey> for what ?
[06:53] <brandon_> idk but it's not showing the hd
[06:53] <intelikey> we reboot because of major upgrades to the kernel.
[06:53] <brandon_> it was always sdb1
[06:54] <intelikey> brandon_ is that usb  scsi  or sata ?
[06:54] <brandon_> sata
[06:54] <brandon_> but it's not showing up with df
[06:55] <brandon_> or cat /proc/partitions
[06:55] <intelikey> anaig df only shows "MOUNTED" filesystems
[06:55] <brandon_> oh
[06:55] <intelikey> again ^
[06:55] <brandon_> how do i view unmounted systems
[06:55] <genii> deus Do you have another box somewhere in the house to test with?
[06:55] <intelikey> well try  sudo fdisk -l
[06:56] <deus> yeah, Im loading it up now
[06:56] <brandon_> .    /dev/sdb1
[06:56] <deus> If my mom finds out, btw
[06:56] <genii> deus OK, cool. Try to do the CD check on that one
[06:56] <brandon_> what line do i need to add to fstab?
[06:57] <intelikey> brandon_ what fs is it ?
[06:57] <deus> genii, btw, this computer also has an ati, but its older
[06:57] <brandon_> ext3, but it says hpfs/ntfs
[06:57] <deus> okay, it looks like it loaded
[06:57] <deus> genii, wow, pretty
[06:57] <genii> deus If the CD drive is failing, you can get an external enclosre USB and put a CD drive in it to install from. Probably cheaper than getting a new laptop drive
[06:57] <ForgeAus> hmmm HPFS sounds like a great idea I need to format one of those!... :)
[06:58] <ForgeAus> would 8 gig do for OSX?
[06:58] <intelikey> brandon_ k fstab line    /dev/sdb1 /media/sda1 ext3 defaults 0 0
[06:58] <Lathiat> ForgeAus: wouldnt leave you much room :P
[06:58] <ForgeAus> or wait OS/2 WARP?
[06:58] <deus> genii, doesnt come with firefox?
[06:58] <ForgeAus> Lathiat? really its THAT big?
[06:58] <brandon_> add it to the last line?
[06:58] <intelikey> brandon_ that assumes you want it mounted at /media/sda1
[06:58] <brandon_> or a new line?
[06:58] <nic> _kuja_ i have the deb package with wine in it...  what now?
[06:58] <intelikey> err you can adjust that to any empty dir.
[06:58] <genii> deus No, the default is Konqeror
[06:58] <brandon_> yeah
[06:58] <robotgeek> intelikey: crap, i think my hdd just died on me
[06:59] <brandon_> put it as the last line?
[06:59] <ForgeAus> konqueror is kewl :)
[06:59] <intelikey> brandon_ yes   but make sure the mountpoint is what you want.
[06:59] <intelikey> robotgeek it does happen.
[06:59] <_kuja_|sleep> something beeped .... oh, nic wanted me ... dpkg -i packagename.deb
[06:59] <deus> konqueror is very nice, but firefox has a special place in my heart
[06:59] <Lathiat> ForgeAus: i think an install is around 4G or something
[06:59] <nic> in konsole?
[07:00] <brandon_> intelikey: can i just put it in media?
[07:00] <genii> I prefer FF too :)
[07:00] <Lathiat> ForgeAus: install a few apps and.. it could get a bti tigh t;p
[07:00] <_kuja_|sleep> yes
[07:00] <nic> go to sleep..
[07:00] <brandon_> i can?
[07:00] <Lathiat> ForgeAus: if you can wait.. 3 hours i have an install at home i can tell you how much is in use
[07:00] <nic> ty
[07:00] <deus> konqueror beats the f***ing crap out of the windows file system.
[07:00] <_kuja_|sleep> yw
[07:00] <_kuja_|sleep> good night nic
[07:00] <ForgeAus> Lath its ok
[07:00] <deus> okay, so we know for a fact the CD is good
[07:00] <ForgeAus> I'd need pearPC to run it
[07:00] <intelikey> brandon_ if you do it will need the other mountpoints in /media created in it.
[07:00] <intelikey> brandon_ but short answer is  yes.
[07:01] <brandon_> how do I add that other mount point
[07:01] <deus> genii, what do you think.  I have and external hard drive.  I have an ipod.  Is there anyway I can boot this computer without shelling out for and external cd drive?
[07:01] <genii> deus - so i would deduce the laptop CD drive is failing then. As I said, you then need to either use an external drive then or go for a netboot-type install (or possibly usb key etc)
[07:01] <intelikey> with the mkdir command
[07:01] <deus> usb key...
[07:01] <deus> I f***ed up a usb key by trying to install linux on it
[07:02] <ForgeAus> grrr 1 gig iso :(
[07:02] <brandon_> okay, it is saved, is the drive ready to be used?
[07:02] <deus> 2GB versoin of linux > 2GB usb drive
[07:02] <intelikey> brandon_ make a list of the mountpoints   make sure there is nothing mounted there    then mount the partition  and  use sudo mkdir <that list of mountpoints one by one.>
[07:02] <ForgeAus> for vmware inst
[07:02] <ForgeAus> wow vmware? will that work?
[07:02] <ForgeAus> thats weird
[07:02] <genii> deus Is your other box a *nix type?
[07:02] <deus> no
[07:02] <ForgeAus> I can Kubuntu but OSX from VMware?
[07:02] <deus> its the family computer
[07:02] <brandon_> intelikey: i put it in media/smith
[07:02] <brandon_> but i do not see the drive
[07:03] <intelikey> brandon_ ok it's ready.
[07:03] <ForgeAus> does that mean I don't need PearPC afterall?
[07:03] <deus> genii, no
[07:03] <Lathiat> you dont want pearpc
[07:03] <intelikey> brandon_ sudo mount -a
[07:03] <Lathiat> thats _lsooow_
[07:03] <Lathiat> use the intel image in vmware
[07:03] <ForgeAus> is VMware faster?
[07:03] <brandon_> [mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[07:03] <Lathiat> than pearpc, by about 100 fold
[07:03] <ForgeAus> it runs Kubuntu nicely :)
[07:03] <ForgeAus> I wonder how big the HDD image is tho :(
[07:03] <deus> genii, man, now that Ive taken a look at kubuntu, I really want it
[07:04] <ForgeAus> not that I don't have the space
[07:04] <ForgeAus> deus, its really good :)
[07:04] <lupine_85> !w32codecs
[07:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:04] <ForgeAus> my fav linux sofar
[07:04] <genii> deus yeah it's the s**t :)
[07:04] <ForgeAus> blows knoppix out of the water anyway
[07:04] <intelikey> brandon_ means you didn't hit the return at the end of your edit.   it wont break anything but it will burp out that warning at boot time unless you fix it.
[07:04] <deus> ForgeAus, knoppix didnt load anything up on my computer correctly
[07:04] <genii> deus Is there enough room on the house box to dual-boot?
[07:04] <deus> part of the reason I got mepis
[07:05] <n8k99> hello
[07:05] <brandon_> fixed
[07:05] <Lathiat> ForgeAus: i have one of th evmwrae images here
[07:05] <brandon_> intelikey: do i have full read and write access to this drive and all its files and folders?
[07:05] <Lathiat> ForgeAus: its a 6.5GB file
[07:05] <deus> genii, that wouldnt do me any good.  Im a college student who is on vacation.  Besides, I dont have the permission
[07:05] <genii> deus :(
[07:06] <intelikey> brandon_ the reason it's desirable to have a final newline is because somethings can append new info to the so without a blank line at the end they append to the end of the last line...
[07:06] <intelikey> brandon_ if you have the permissions set that way.
[07:06] <intelikey> brandon_ it's ext3  permissions are on a per inode basis..
[07:06] <genii> I'm sure there's way to liveboot then get tftpd running with cd shared but I'm too tired to consider it atm
[07:07] <genii> deus Does your notebook do PXE booting?
[07:07] <deus> thats okay.  could you tell me what that would be
[07:07] <genii> PXE boot is when it tries to boot from the network
[07:07] <intelikey> brandon_ man chown  for information on ownership   and man chmod  for info on permissions   and good luck to your pinguin.
[07:07] <deus> I think I saw something in the boot menu about that.  It says it can boot off of the NIC.
[07:08] <deus> how is that done?
[07:08] <genii> deus OK, so the basic idea then would be: on the "server" install hpa-tftpd. Edit the conf file to use /var/lib/tftpboot as the root
[07:08] <brandon_> intelikey: can i relabel the label that was present with sudo fdisk -l
[07:09] <deus> umm...
[07:09] <brandon_> HPFS/NTFS
[07:09] <genii> deus Then put a dir there called pxeboot.cfg, inside that a file called default
[07:09] <brandon_> rename it to ext3
[07:09] <genii> deus I'll try to find you a reference...hangon a bit
[07:09] <intelikey> yes you can  but not -l     i'd sujest sudo cfdisk /dev/sdb
[07:09] <deus> genii, okay
[07:10] <troy-f> hi
[07:10] <brandon_> what do i do?   sudo cfdisk /dev/sdb1
[07:10] <brandon_> or just sdb
[07:10] <troy-f> i just installed edgy and i can't get my via 8235 souund card to work
[07:11] <intelikey> i'm going to reboot into that M$ windows 95 and play a game.    i haven't played a game in a long time.
[07:11] <genii> deus I got started on this one: http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install
[07:11] <troy> ack! another troy! :P
[07:11] <genii> but keep in mind liveboot mounts will be diff
[07:11] <troy-f> hi :-P so your the one who registerd it first :-P
[07:12] <troy> like... 1998 :P
[07:12] <troy-f> wow
[07:12] <troy-f> i have been on freenode a year
[07:12] <touchme> I'm about 4 hours from having to reformat to Winblows XP... can someone please help me prevent this by telling me how to make Kubuntu recognize my touchscreen monitor? It shows it being plugged into /dev/input/ts0, but the touchscreen part is still inactive. PLEASE help!
[07:13] <troy-f> anyways.. alsa shows it detects a via 8235 sound chip but ksound deamon crashes on startup with message "cpu overloaded"
[07:13] <deus> genii, this is a bit advanced for me...
[07:13] <troy> troy-f: can you play sound using non-kde apps at all?
[07:13] <brandon_> how do i install mp3 support
[07:14] <noiesmo> !mp3 | brandon_
[07:14] <ubotu> brandon_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:14] <genii> deus Do you have an external USB CD ?
[07:14] <Lathiat> touchme: might be worth trying #ubuntu as thats a fairly generic issue
[07:15] <deus> might be able to find one
[07:15] <troy-f> ok well..
[07:15] <troy-f> i just put an audio cd in
[07:15] <genii> deus That would be the quickest fix :)
[07:15] <troy> touchme: that's going to be an Xorg configuration issue... but, having never dealt with touchscreens in linux before...
[07:15] <troy-f> and kaffine sais it doesn't see it
[07:15] <deus> hmm...
[07:15] <troy> oh, hrmm - probably not kaffeine's fault...
[07:16] <touchme> That's what I was thinking too troy, but I have the correct insertions into Xorg
[07:16] <brandon_> no libxine-extracodecs for feisty?
[07:16] <troy-f> /media/cdrom is blank
[07:16] <noiesmo> troy-f, I have via 8235 c\sound works fine the only thing I found was if i had usb webcam pluged in no sound
[07:16] <matthew> genii, sorry to interrupt, but I sent an email asking about selling it w/o RAM...that only applies if it is using PC133 RAM...if the mobo supports DDR or DDR2, please sell me that w/ the box.
[07:16] <troy> troy-f: audio cd's are not mounted like data cd's...
[07:16] <troy> troy-f: try using 'kscd' to play it
[07:16] <genii> matthew OK np :)
[07:16] <brandon_> anyone?
[07:16] <osiris> anyone know how i would leave a program running on a system after i close my ssh session ?
[07:17] <matthew> k, going to bed now...see you in the morning...
[07:17] <brandon_> no libxine-extracodecs for feisty?
[07:17] <robotgeek> osiris: screen or nohup
[07:17] <noiesmo> brandon_, maybe ask in #ubuntu+1
[07:17] <genii> brandon do you have "restricted" repos in sources.list ?
[07:17] <troy> touchme: if no one knows here - try #ubuntu or even #xorg... also, the ubuntu message forum usually works, but it's less instant...
[07:18] <genii> brandon Also #ubuntu+1 IS the best help for feisty
[07:18] <brandon_> i'm not sure
[07:18] <superb0wl> does anybody know why the "master" volumne in kmix doesnt do anything
[07:18] <brandon_> main restricted, yes
[07:18] <troy-f> wierd.. kscd loads but doesn't show a window
[07:18] <genii> touchme Also general debian methods may help
[07:18] <murchadh_bhaba> osiris, screen, start program, detach screen (ctrl^a d)
[07:18] <troy> troy-f: is it in the tray in the corner by the clock?
[07:18] <robotgeek> !screen
[07:18] <ubotu> screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[07:19] <troy-f> no
[07:19] <troy-f> i typed it in a terminal and it sais its already running
[07:19] <brandon_> how can i install this libxine-extracodecs
[07:20] <troy> troy-f: weird - works for me... hrmmm...
[07:20] <matthew> ok, I decided to come back...yay!
[07:20] <genii> brandon if you sudo apt-cache search libxine|grep codec  is there any result?
[07:21] <brandon_> genii: no
[07:21] <genii> deus I am sorry that I cannot be of more help
[07:22] <genii> brandon So you need to find which repository it should be in, then add that to your /etc/apt/sources.list, do an ap-get update then see that it appears when you apt-cache search   for it. Then it can be installed
[07:22] <touchme> #debian says it's a kernel thing and they don't know, no one's home at #xorg, and not even the mighty google knows
[07:22] <troy> troy-f: sorry man - I'd see if you can try a different cd player, but I don't know what else would work... xmms perhaps? (probably not installed by default) and see if that works.  Or try playing audio via xmms ... like an ogg file or something...
[07:22] <brandon_> can i use gstreamer instead
[07:23] <troy> troy-f: that way you can narrow it down a bit: just cd audio problem OR all audio problem OR just kde audio problem... etc.
[07:23] <troy-f> i dont have internet on the machine yet :-/  my 2200bg wireless won't see any ap's
[07:23] <genii> brandon What is your desired end-result? To play a particular file format etc?
[07:23] <brandon_> mp3
[07:23] <troy-f> acually iwconfig shows it as turned off
[07:24] <genii> brandon gstreamer or mplayer or xmms   all should be equally good
[07:24] <troy> troy-f: dunno about wireless - never tried to set that up on unix before... don't generally use it
[07:24] <deus> genii, what if i choose a stable version of kubuntu, like dapper?
[07:24] <brandon_> which gstreamer package to work with amarok?
[07:24] <troy> amarok-engines-gstreamer iirc
[07:25] <troy> that could be slightly different... use adept_manager and search for amarok :)
[07:25] <deus> genii, I ran the cd check, and it completed okay
[07:25] <troy> troy-f: good luck though -- gotta run (significant other's birthday)
[07:26] <genii> deus I think the crux of your issue is that no matter what CD you make, you will have issues installing because of the drive. You may want to chance the mini iso for whatever distro tho Less to read etc
[07:26] <dope_> OK so i totally just made out and groped my roommate (she's a female)
[07:26] <touchme> Is there like a channel or number that I can call that I could pay for support on touchscreens? I"m pretty desparate here.
[07:26] <genii> deus It may give you a base systemfrom which you could get outto internet for the rest
[07:27] <brandon_> troy, does that then support mp3?
[07:27] <brandon_> amarok-engines
[07:27] <deus> genii, hmmm...
[07:28] <deus> but I dont understand it.  My drive worked find before
[07:28] <genii> deus Some drives have problems reading crammeddiscs.
[07:28] <deus> Oh I see
[07:29] <intelikey> well so much for a game.
[07:29] <dope_> i was all up on her
[07:29] <deus> what If I tried a dvd version?  My bois supports it.  Its worth a try I think
[07:29] <genii> deus Yeah that may work :)
[07:29] <deus> genii, I mean, I have the blank DVDs and everything
[07:29] <deus> okay, Ill try that.
[07:29] <deus> genii, I still kinda doubt thats my problem
[07:30] <intelikey> if only i would have realized that i couldn't boot windows....
[07:30] <genii> deus Well, all the indications are that: the CD is good and that: the laptop CD drive balks
[07:30] <deus> genii, here goes
[07:30] <deus> you sure
[07:30] <deus> ?
[07:31] <genii> deus Well if you have a DVD to spare I'd chance it.
[07:31] <nic> im completely lost...
[07:31] <nic> darned lunix
[07:31] <dave_> can anyone tell me how to download packeges when adept isnt woking
[07:32] <matthew> dave_, synaptic
[07:32] <genii> aptitude
[07:32] <deus> genii, k3b gave me a warning (not an error
[07:32] <matthew> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[07:32] <noiesmo> dave_, you can open terminal and type sudo apt-get install package
[07:32] <rcrook> dope_ we dont want to know... infact I am not sure any of us really care except you are annoying us by telling us this useless information.
[07:32] <deus> it says that the file I downloaded is not a valid iso
[07:32] <dave_> kk thanks will try
[07:32] <somerville32> You guys are sending people over to #xubuntu now for support? :P
[07:33] <genii> deus ... You burned a CD imge to a DVD? There is a dvd-specific image
[07:33] <dope_> you don't wanna hear about my soap opera?
[07:33] <deus> genii, no
[07:33] <deus> genii, but I have the dvd image and k3b says:
[07:33] <rcrook> dope_ no
[07:33] <deus> The image you selected is not a valid ISO9660 image. Are you sure you want to burn it anyway? (There are other valid image types that are not detected by K3b but will work fine.)
[07:33] <dave_> : Package synaptic has no installation candidate
[07:33] <dave_> ????\
[07:34] <genii> eus Ah, thats fine. It means it doesn't strictly adhere to 9660 standards but thats OK
[07:34] <matthew> dave_, might want to check that your access repos is available
[07:34] <deus> okay, here goes
[07:34] <matthew> cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:34] <dave_> how do i do that!
[07:35] <matthew> dave_, if you see any that are commented out (# in front), then tell me.
[07:35] <matthew> dave_, cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:35] <intelikey> and forgets about windows.
[07:35] <matthew> intelikey, very nice
[07:36] <intelikey> now i'll dd a copy of the working system over   or maybe tar it over.
[07:36] <deus> its righting very slow
[07:36] <deus> in the 0.5x to 0.9x range
[07:36] <dave_> ahh i am confused so i am to typr the command dave_, cat /etc/apt/sources.list and hit enter then tel u wat ti says?
[07:37] <deus> what do those numbers mean, anyway
[07:37] <matthew> dave_, no you need to open a konsole and type "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" w/o the quotes
[07:37] <dave_> that what i did
[07:38] <matthew> ok, then type in cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:38] <genii> deus If it takes you 2 hours to watch a dvd, .5 speed eans it will take 4 hours to burn
[07:38] <deus> oh, thats cool
[07:38] <dave_> ok lots of stuff how do i use the Bin thng to send it to you i am only new to all this sorry!
[07:38] <matthew> do you see any lines that are web address that are prefaced by a # sigb?
[07:38] <matthew> !pastebin | dave_
[07:38] <ubotu> dave_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:38] <deus> I can wait until tomarrow morning
[07:39] <matthew> dave_, just go there, paste the output, and give me the url for the page.
[07:39] <genii> Or at least thats my understanding... drive speed measurement is a convoluted equation
[07:39] <dave_> url?
[07:39] <deus> genii, how do I get linux to retest my ethernet connection
[07:39] <matthew> dave_, address in the address bar
[07:39] <dave_> lol
[07:40] <dave_> address for what though?
[07:40] <matthew> dave_, the page where you pasted the output of cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:40] <genii> deus sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[07:40] <genii> deus then do sudo ifconfig
[07:41] <genii> and see if the eth0 or whatever got the number or similar
[07:41] <dave_> think that worked in the post bin?
[07:42] <matthew> dave_, what is the address?
[07:42] <intelikey> url please
[07:42] <dave_> mmmmmm i rea;;yconfused now
[07:43] <matthew> dave_, ok, here is what I need you to do.
[07:43] <matthew> dave_, follow me step by step.
[07:43] <dave_> ok
[07:43] <genii> matthew :)
[07:43] <intelikey> dave_ when you use paste.ubuntu-nl.org it gives you a url to give us.
[07:43] <matthew> dave_, type in "sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list" without the quotes
[07:43] <dave_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38049/
[07:43] <dave_> does that help?
[07:43] <genii> there ya go
[07:43] <intelikey> there ya go.
[07:44] <genii> heh
[07:44] <dave_> lol sorry
[07:44] <matthew> dave_, listen to me now...
[07:44] <dave_> ok
[07:44] <dave_>  all ears
[07:44] <genii> deus alternate to ifconfig you could just try to ping some site like google etc
[07:44] <matthew> dave_, sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:45] <matthew> dave_, type that in the konsole
[07:45] <matthew> genii,  check your private messages...
[07:45] <dave_> then..
[07:45] <genii> matthew How do I do that?
[07:46] <dave_> i have a sources list form kate now?
[07:46] <intelikey> the paste was turncated.... dave did not scroll up before starting to copy and only got the last screen full.
[07:46] <matthew> genii, I just sent you a private message...there should be an extra tab on the left with my name on it...if you're using xchat, at least
[07:46] <matthew> dave_, yes
[07:46] <genii> Nope, chatzilla
[07:46] <jason_> is it posible to install adobe photoshop on kubuntu?
[07:47] <matthew> dave_, I want you to go through it and find every line that ends in .com
[07:47] <genii> Right now I just have irc.freenode.net, kubuntu and ubuntu channels
[07:47] <matthew> genii, oh, ok, never mind
[07:48] <dave_> is there surposed to be any becasue i couldnt find any?
[07:48] <dave_> do you want me to post it in the bin thing?
[07:48] <matthew> dave_, look for lines that contain ubuntu
[07:48] <deus> hey, genii I have a few questions
[07:48] <matthew> dave_, do you see those?
[07:49] <genii> deus Sure, shoot :)
[07:49] <dave_> ahhh
[07:49] <dave_> so do you want to see them
[07:49] <deus> when I ran kubuntu, it looked like a lot of stuff wasnt there.  Is there a irc chat client?
[07:49] <dave_> main restricted
[07:49] <deus> os I can ask you for help?
[07:50] <matthew> dave_, now, if any of those lines that contain "ubuntu" in them have a ound sign (#) at the beginning, then delete the pound sign (#)
[07:50] <genii> deus for irc there is xchat as matthew noted. I generally use chatzilla extension for firefox. There is also usually an IM client like gaim or kopete
[07:50] <matthew> dave_, whoops, I meant pound, not ound
[07:50] <deus> genii, secondly, is 20 gigs enough disk space?  Thats how big my partition is...
[07:51] <dave_> then?
[07:51] <deus> good.  And thats all off the live cd?
[07:51] <genii> deus You only need about 2.5 gigs for a full install, so anything over 4 is pretty roomy
[07:51] <matthew> dave_, have you deleted all the pound signs (#) that are in front of lines that contain "ubuntu"?
[07:51] <deus> good
[07:51] <genii> deus you should have kopete I think on the livecd
[07:51] <dave_> yep all 12   of them !
[07:51] <deus> genii, good...
[07:52] <matthew> dave_, ok, now save the file
[07:52] <osiris> ubotu, restricted formats > osiris
[07:52] <osiris> ubotu, restricted format > osiris
[07:52] <deus> genii, is kdevelop or some other ide preinstalled?
[07:52] <dave_> then?
[07:52] <matthew> dave_, then close the file and go back to the konsole
[07:52] <genii> deus On the default, no
[07:53] <deus> mmm...
[07:53] <deus> genii, but some easy install method?
[07:54] <deus> genii, I just spent three weeks trying to istall a program, only to learn that it was impossible in the first place
[07:54] <genii> deus I am looking now to see which repository needs to be in sources.list :) pls wait a minute
[07:54] <dave_> ok so now i try the install thing again?
[07:55] <matthew> dave_, now type "sudo apt-get install synaptic" without the quotes
[07:55] <genii> deus Hmm ... if you try:   sudo apt-get update && apt-cache kdev        is there any result?
[07:55] <dave_> Package synaptic is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:55] <dave_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[07:55] <dave_> is only available from another source
[07:55] <dave_> E: Package synaptic has no installation candidate
[07:55] <nic> does wine run on 64 bits versions of kubuntu?
[07:55] <dave_> sorry crap i floded it
[07:56] <genii> apt-cache SEARCH kdev
[07:56] <lupine_85> nic: in a chroot, yet
[07:56] <genii> bleh
[07:56] <matthew> dave_, what version of kubuntu are you using?
[07:56] <nic> wow... thats already very over my head
[07:56] <dave_> ahh 6.06 lts
[07:57] <genii> deus Is inuniverse repository.
[07:57] <matthew> dave_, please put your /etc/apt/sources.list on pastebin and then tell me the url.
[07:57] <deus> genii, are we talking kubuntu? Im not running it yet
[07:57] <dave_> well i tryed that in konsole and it said permission denied?
[07:58] <matthew> dave_, type sudo in front of the command that you tried
[07:58] <genii> deus So... in /etc/apt/sources.list  make sure "universe" is at tail end or so of each line. Then do apt-get update etc etc
[07:58] <genii> deus Yes, in kubuntu
[07:59] <deus> genii, when I get kubuntu running, Ill get someone (you?) to walk me through it.
[07:59] <dave_> bad command
[07:59] <deus> genii, so, there should be some sort of chat client running by default?
[07:59] <matthew> dave_, type in "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[07:59] <genii> deus OK...if I'm not crashed for the next 14 hours I'll be glad to walk you thru it :)
[08:00] <matthew> dave_, without the quotes
[08:00] <deus> wow, this dvd burn is a whole lot of slowness
[08:00] <deus> alright, Im gonna go to bed soon
[08:00] <genii> deus Yes, some client should be available. I do not normally run the livecd so I do not know which
[08:00] <deus> of course
[08:01] <genii> matthew Yeah I need sleep soon
[08:01] <matthew> dave_, have you done that?
[08:02] <matthew> dave_, once you do that, please paste the output to pastebin
[08:02] <intelikey> back.
[08:02] <dave_> getting there lol
[08:02] <matthew> dave_, okey doke
[08:02] <genii> I'm just gonna finish this cig and then gobeddie-byes
[08:02] <dave_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38053/
[08:02] <deus> hey guys, can you burn an image into an lcd screen, or is that only CRTs?
[08:03] <matthew> genii, cigs kill. Tobacco contains polonium 210
[08:03] <lupine_85> deus: just CRTs
[08:03] <genii> atthew Living kills you :)
[08:03] <lupine_85> matthew: everything kills
[08:03] <matthew> dave_, ok, looking at it right now...hold on
[08:03] <lupine_85> everything else kills kittens
[08:03] <dave_> k
[08:03] <dave_> :)
[08:03] <genii> sunshine kills you ... sunscreen kills you...etc etc ad nauseum
[08:03] <matthew> genii, nice
[08:04] <intelikey> matthew he's still turncating it.
[08:04] <matthew> intelikey, yeah, I see that
[08:04] <matthew> dave_, please do the following: sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:04] <brandon_> how do i remove trash from desktop?
[08:05] <matthew> dave_, once you are there, please hit Ctrl + a
[08:05] <matthew> dave_, then go to pastebin and middle-click if you have a scroll wheel, right-click and paste if you have a 2-button mouse
[08:05] <dave_> yep and?
[08:05] <dave_> kk
[08:05] <matthew> dave_, then go to pastebin and middle-click if you have a scroll wheel, right-click and paste if you have a 2-button mouse
[08:06] <matthew> dave_, then give me the address.
[08:06] <matthew> dave_, the url
[08:06] <intelikey> matthew both buttons == middle button
[08:06] <matthew> intelikey, k, thanks.
[08:07] <intelikey> np
[08:07] <dave_> shit think i screwed it over
[08:07] <nic> intelikey
[08:07] <nic> me again
[08:07] <matthew> dave_, what happened?
[08:07] <intelikey> nic yessir
[08:07] <brandon_> intelikey: how do i remove trash from desktop
[08:07] <nic> i cant get synaptic to dowload the wine package..
[08:07] <dave_> i had like to console windows open and not sure if i posted the right thing its there so try it anywayz
[08:07] <intelikey> brandon_ idk.
[08:07] <nic> its sooooo frustrating
[08:07] <swami> new repository
[08:07] <brandon_> intelikey: how do i restart panels
[08:08] <genii> ctrl-A (selects all)  ctrl-c (copies)  ctrl-v (pastes)
[08:08] <nic> is it cause I am using kubuntu 64 bit?
[08:08] <swami> it gives u any error?
[08:08] <matthew> dave_, ctrl-A (selects all)  ctrl-c (copies)  ctrl-v (pastes)
[08:08] <intelikey> nic you did comment out the odd repo you had added and enabled universe  didn't you ?
[08:08] <intelikey> !repos | nic
[08:08] <ubotu> nic: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:08] <nic> nope
[08:09] <brandon_> sudo restart kicker
[08:09] <brandon_> soemthing like that
[08:09] <intelikey> brandon_ killall kicker ;kicker
[08:09] <swami> he can see tha package so he has the repository,...
[08:09] <matthew> dave_, go back to the /etc/apt/sources.list file and hit Ctrl+a, then Ctrl+c, then go to pastebin and hi Ctrl+v
[08:09] <genii> OK time to go ...have fun everyone :) Back ~10 hrs
[08:09] <brandon_> and to restart it?
[08:09] <nic> i can see dummies from the basic install... but they wont install
[08:09] <genii> matthew Have fun
[08:09] <genii> ;0
[08:09] <swami> sudo apt-get update
[08:09] <matthew> genii, you too
[08:09] <matthew> lol
[08:10] <brandon_> restart panel?
[08:10] <intelikey> nic try that.   don't forget to apply changes.  or as swami  said from the cli
[08:10] <matthew> dave_, go back to the /etc/apt/sources.list file and hit Ctrl+a, then Ctrl+c, then go to pastebin and hi Ctrl+v
[08:10] <intelikey> brandon_ killall kicker ;kicker
[08:10] <intelikey> brandon_ that's one string that both stops and starts it.
[08:10] <brandon_> it's not restarting
[08:11] <nic> i dont know where to comment out the ODD repo and to enable universe
[08:11] <matthew> dave_, go back to the /etc/apt/sources.list file and hit Ctrl+a, then Ctrl+c, then go to pastebin and hi Ctrl+v
[08:11] <swami> any oen around here uses xgl+beryl?
[08:11] <brandon_> fixed
[08:11] <nic> im using synaptic package manager
[08:11] <dave_> grrr dad came in and started talking to me an i fagged it all up is that the whole command etc/apt/sources.list\
[08:11] <dave_> is says invalid
[08:11] <intelikey> !universe
[08:11] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:11] <intelikey> !multiverse
[08:11] <matthew> dave_, the command is "kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:11] <intelikey> !repos
[08:11] <matthew> dave_, w/o the quotes
[08:11] <intelikey> all the same link.
[08:12] <swami> anyone ...xgl+beryl........???
[08:12] <nic> should I not use synaptic?
[08:12] <matthew> dave_, how old are you?
[08:12] <goodthing> are there any specific fstab that should apply to a raid1 mount?
[08:12] <goodthing> *options
[08:12] <intelikey> nic synaptic is fine.
[08:12] <fdoving> !beryl | swami
[08:12] <ubotu> swami: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[08:12] <matthew> dave_, how old are you?
[08:12] <dave_> ok all good sorry bout everything i am really just a noob lol
[08:12] <dave_> 17
[08:13] <dave_> just never used irc or linux
[08:13] <dave_> !
[08:13] <matthew> dave_, ok....so you're looking at the sources.list file right now, right?
[08:13] <dave_> yep
[08:13] <intelikey> goodthing man fstab ;man mount     and read up on raid one also.   i personally don't know.
[08:13] <matthew> ok, hit Ctrl+a
[08:13] <swami> :)....i don;t need that kinda help....i need to find if the open gl direct rendering sists existing if i open a xgl session
[08:13] <matthew> dave_, ok, hit Ctrl+a
[08:14] <dave_> i have already posted it if thats what you want?
[08:14] <matthew> dave_, what you posted was incomplete.
[08:14] <dave_> hmmm
[08:14] <matthew> dave_, you need to select all of the text in the sources.list file, then copy it, then paste it to pastebin, please
[08:15] <dave_> lol try again
[08:15] <dave_> that form the top ctrl A
[08:15] <matthew> dave_, I don't understand.
[08:16] <goodthing> intelikey: yeah, seems there is nothing in it about raid.
[08:16] <dave_> i have posted the new source code , and it is everything in the kate folder
[08:17] <intelikey> dave_   you can open a konsole and put this string in.   grep -v '#' /etc/apt/sources.list | grep -ie '[a-z] '
[08:17] <matthew> intelikey, thank you.
[08:17] <matthew> intelikey, getting frustrated?
[08:17] <intelikey> that will weed out all the blank lines and the comments so you only see and paste the apropos text.
[08:17] <dave_> then?
[08:18] <intelikey> paste it's output
[08:18] <dave_> i have a >
[08:18] <goodthing> dave_: hit CRTL-key plus c
[08:18] <matthew> intelikey, want to take over?
[08:18] <matthew> or goodthing, you want to?
[08:19] <goodthing> i have no idea what the problem is
[08:19] <intelikey> matthew this is your baby :)
[08:19] <matthew> intelikey, damn you! lol, jk
[08:19] <matthew> sorry for the language
[08:19] <intelikey> lol
[08:19] <matthew> dave_, ok, so, what is the url of the page where you pasted the output?
[08:19] <intelikey> matthew but ya,  i'd rather take over than see you snap.
[08:20] <dave_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38056/
[08:20] <dave_> is there like some whay to remote desktop because i am really noob at this lol?
[08:20] <matthew> dave_, ok, your sources.list looks good
[08:21] <intelikey> dave that's not output from the command i gave you.
[08:21] <matthew> dave_, got back to a konsole and type in sudo apt-get install synaptic
[08:21] <osiris> ubotu, restricted media > osiris
[08:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restricted media - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:21] <matthew> intelikey, I'm just looking for commented out lines...
[08:21] <intelikey> but he may have trash repos in there too
[08:22] <intelikey> or no main.
[08:22] <intelikey> i've still not seen main.
[08:22] <dave_> nope didnt work
[08:22] <matthew> dave_, ok, do what intelikey said:  grep -v '#' /etc/apt/sources.list | grep -ie '[a-z] '
[08:22] <intelikey> dave_ can you clearify "didnt work" ?
[08:23] <matthew> intelikey, lol, would you blame me for snapping?
[08:23] <dave_> ok it did somthing then
[08:23] <matthew> dave_, what happened?
[08:23] <dave_> ahh you want to post bin it?
[08:23] <intelikey> matthew yeah.  cause we all have these days.
[08:23] <matthew> dave_, yes, please
[08:23] <matthew> intelikey, it's not the day...lol
[08:23] <sparr> what can i feed to grep to search for the literal string "?/?" (sans quotes)?  in bash, if that matters
[08:24] <intelikey> matthew you
[08:24] <intelikey> matthew you'll think that when the next one does the same...
[08:24] <matthew> roflmao
[08:24] <matthew> no sleep in 14 hours...oh yeah
[08:24] <intelikey> 14 ?
[08:25] <dave_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38059/
[08:25] <matthew> yeah...woke up at 9 this morning...
[08:25] <intelikey> you accustom to sellping a lot ?
[08:25] <intelikey> dave_ very good.
[08:25] <matthew> intelikey, yeah, I like to get about 10-14 hours of sleep...lol.
[08:25] <intelikey> and i was right you don't have main.
[08:26] <matthew> intelikey, you're right, no main on the last 2 security packages...maybe others...haven't looked
[08:26] <matthew> intelikey, ok, looked, and found no main...
[08:26] <matthew> dave_, now you need to follow my instructions exactly
[08:27] <dave_> ok
[08:27] <matthew> dave_, type in "sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list" without the quotes into the konsole
[08:27] <intelikey> dave on line one of that  you need    main restricted universe multiverse    not just universe multiverse    make all lines look that way.
[08:27] <matthew> dave_, do what intelikey tells you.
[08:28] <matthew> intelikey, I shudder to think why he has no main in his sources.list
[08:28] <dave_> ok
[08:28] <matthew> dave_,  on line one of that  you need    main restricted universe multiverse    not just universe multiverse    make all lines look that way.
[08:29] <intelikey> dave after you edit and make all lines have main in them  save and run the grep command again so we can dubble check for you   ok ?
[08:29] <dave_> deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse
[08:30] <intelikey> change   deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse
[08:30] <dave_> so after this
[08:30] <matthew> dave_, make that read deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[08:30] <intelikey> to deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[08:31] <intelikey> dave_ see how the line with the word   backports looks.    fix the rest of them.
[08:32] <dave_> do they all need full stops?
[08:32] <matthew> dave_, what do you mean, full stops?
[08:33] <lupine_85> no full stops
[08:33] <matthew> they all need to read "main restricted universe multiverse" after the /ubuntu portion
[08:33] <intelikey> dave_ line breaks ?   yes each needs line breaks.  if that's what you mean.
[08:33] <dave_> yep kk
[08:33] <intelikey> but not dos line breaks,  unix line breaks
[08:34] <lupine_85> intelikey: does apt-get care?
[08:34] <matthew> intelikey, I hate when people say kk...just kind of bugs me...I mean, ok, we get it with just one k, you know? Don't mind me, I'm tired...lol
[08:34] <dave_> so i leave the backports
[08:34] <matthew> dave_, yes
[08:34] <lupine_85> kkkk :)
[08:34] <intelikey> lupine_85 i think so.
[08:34] <metres> Do anyone can explain this : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38061/ im on amd64 ..?
[08:35] <matthew> lupine_85, I will kill you.
[08:35] <matthew> lupine_85, just kidding.
[08:35] <lupine_85> kk :[
[08:35] <intelikey> lupine_85 i've never tried actually.
[08:35] <matthew> roflmao
[08:35] <dave_> kk
[08:35] <lupine_85> intelikey: no, me neither :)
[08:35] <lupine_85> that extra byte is such a waste...
[08:35] <intelikey> test it and tell us
[08:35] <lupine_85> metres: you need to install some extra packages
[08:35] <matthew> dave_, ok, please paste your sources.list file now, please
[08:36] <lupine_85> !info libxml
[08:36] <ubotu> Package libxml does not exist in any distro I know
[08:36] <metres> which ?
[08:36] <abattoir> metres: Google Earth is looking for the 32-bit version of those files, while your system has the 64-bit version
[08:36] <metres> i have libxml2 aa my paste said...
[08:36] <lupine_85> !info libxml2
[08:36] <ubotu> libxml2: GNOME XML library. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.26.dfsg-2ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 723 kB, installed size 1416 kB
[08:36] <lupine_85> ah, there's no amd64 version of google earth?
[08:36] <intelikey> dave_ finished ?
[08:36] <intelikey> lupine_85 no
[08:37] <lupine_85> !chroot
[08:37] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[08:37] <lupine_85> do that :
[08:37] <matthew> dave_, you still with me?
[08:37] <abattoir> or install ia32-* linux32 etc.
[08:37] <metres> thank you guys :)
[08:38] <dave_> nilly
[08:38] <lupine_85> intelikey: for the sake of clarity?
[08:38] <lupine_85> x86_64 works as well
[08:38] <matthew> dave_, excuse me? what does nilly mean?
[08:38] <abattoir> intelikey: i think k8 is amd specific, while amd64 in general refers to x86_64
[08:38] <dave_> lol i just need the code to get back into kate to paste you the source code please?
[08:38] <intelikey> amd64 is not amd specific ???
[08:39] <intelikey> hmmm may be right.
[08:39] <abattoir> intelikey: just like i686 is even used to refer to amd processors
[08:39] <matthew> dave_, sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:39] <intelikey> dave_   you can open a konsole and put this string in.   grep -v '#' /etc/apt/sources.list | grep -ie '[a-z] '
[08:39] <intelikey> that code   ^
[08:39] <matthew> intelikey, I was so tempted to say fdisk *
[08:40] <dave_> hey i know what that is GRRR
[08:40] <dave_> no fdisk for dave!
[08:40] <intelikey> matthew hehhe or dd blah.
[08:40] <matthew> intelikey, lol, yeah
[08:41] <dave_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38062/
[08:41] <matthew> dave_, looks good to me
[08:41] <matthew> intelikey, how about you? wdyt?
[08:42] <intelikey> dave_ do    sudo apt-get update
[08:42] <fek> moin
[08:42] <dave_> omg its working
[08:42] <Search4Lancer> is there any way I can get Xorg to use less memory?
[08:42] <matthew> dave_, very cool
[08:42] <intelikey> he's got some duplicate lines but only a few warnings from that.
[08:43] <dave_> fewk then it screwed up
[08:43] <matthew> dave_, what did it say?
[08:43] <dave_> its saying thes dupicate sources
[08:43] <intelikey> dave_ do   sudo apt-get install synaptic
[08:44] <intelikey> if it's finished
[08:44] <matthew> intelikey, don't we need to get rid of the duplicates?
[08:44] <intelikey> not really.   they just throw warning messages out.
[08:44] <dave_> so far so good its dowloading
[08:44] <matthew> intelikey, ok
[08:44] <dave_> so how did i screw the source code up i tryed following some internet pages instructions
[08:44] <matthew> dave_, it's downloading? very cool
[08:44] <intelikey> matthew if you want to help him remove them be my guest... :)
[08:45] <matthew> intelikey, I would love to!
[08:45] <matthew> dave_, ok, tell me when it gets done updating
[08:45] <dave_> ok its finishe
[08:45] <matthew> dave_, ok, now do        sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:45] <maryen> hii
[08:46] <intelikey> dave_ you didn't "screw the source code up"  hehhe   in the sources list there are some lines just alike.  if you want to fix it remove the duplicates.
[08:46] <dave_> ok
[08:46] <dave_> i have to go for dinner can we fix when i get back
[08:47] <matthew> dave_, are you looking at the sources.list?
[08:47] <matthew> dave_, it will take 2 seconds, plus I'm going to bed
[08:47] <maryen> he messed up sources.list?
[08:47] <matthew> dave_, just erase the last 2 lines in sources.list
[08:47] <dave_> ok
[08:47] <matthew> maryen, yeah, and we don't know how...but we fixed it.
[08:47] <maryen> k
[08:48] <matthew> dave_, ok, so now paste it to pastebin again, please
[08:48] <dave_> ok
[08:49] <dave_> ok its in the new postbin
[08:50] <intelikey> dave_ you could do that like this;   grep -v '#' /etc/apt/sources.list | grep deb | sort -u | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list                               but be advised that that command string will show no mercy. it will over write the file /etc/apt/sources.list with what ever it displays on the screen.   so you might want to backup your broken file first.
[08:50] <metres> as I understand, chroot is for using i386 package on x86_64 ?
[08:50] <matthew> intelikey, don't tell him that
[08:50] <matthew> dave_, what's the url?
[08:51] <dave_> shit i  closed it
[08:51] <intelikey> metres chroot is to run whatever with a different system root
[08:51] <dave_> sorry
[08:51] <dave_> god  i thought we had finishe
[08:51] <matthew> dave_, no problem, just do it again
[08:52] <dave_> i am just wait lol
[08:52] <matthew> intelikey, nice...cause, you know, suicide is illegal
[08:52] <matthew> dave_, ok, goodbye
[08:52] <intelikey> yes it is.
[08:52] <dave_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38049/
[08:53] <dave_> awww sorry guys
[08:53] <matthew> dave, that's not it
[08:53] <matthew> dave_, that's not it
[08:53] <momal> So they are going to charge you for trying to kill your self? thats smart >_>
[08:53] <londo4> Hallo
[08:54] <matthew> momal, nah,just put me in jail...and it's only if I actually commit suicide...not just trying to...
[08:54] <intelikey> momal why shouldn't they ?   if you try to kill someone else you get charged for it.
[08:54] <londo4> I m having a  problem with this repositor deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf dapper free non-free
[08:54] <matthew> dave_, that's not it
[08:54] <momal> matthew: lol... then they really can
[08:55] <lupine_85>  /attempted suicide/ is illegal in the UK
[08:55] <londo4> who can help me with this repositor: deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf dapper free non-free
[08:55] <intelikey> but it is true that it's much easier to get off as krazy if you try to do your self in.....
[08:55] <momal> matthew: lol... then they really can't charg you... intelikey: but its your self not someone else...
[08:55] <dave_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38065/
[08:55] <matthew> lupine_85, hmm, didn't know that...
[08:55] <dave_> try thatr
[08:55] <lupine_85> therefore, it logically follows that if you stop someone from committing suicide, you have assisted them in the crime of attempted suicide
[08:55] <lupine_85> (since if you didn't intervene there would be no crime)
[08:55] <matthew> lupine_85, gotta love your logic
[08:56] <lupine_85> so then one must ask... is being an accessory to attempted suicide a crime?
[08:56] <matthew> dave_, you didn't paste the whole thing.
[08:56] <londo4> when I hit sudo apt-get I get error
[08:56] <user________> avoeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[08:57] <gio> avoeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[08:57] <intelikey> lupine_85 ?    if you stop some from attemped murder you have assisted them in the crime of attempted murder ???
[08:57] <lupine_85> suicide, not murder
[08:57] <momal> Anyone have an recommendations for photo editors for linux ? (closest to photoshop as possile) and not gimp.
[08:57] <lupine_85> suicide isn't a crime in the UK, but attempted suicide is
[08:57] <matthew> dave_, you didn't paste the whole thing.
[08:57] <londo4> hallo help
[08:57] <intelikey> don't give me that   suicide != murder
[08:57] <dave_> that all that in the source code
[08:57] <lupine_85> intelikey: I kid you not
[08:58] <lupine_85> attempted suicide is a crime
[08:58] <dave_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38067/
[08:58] <matthew> intelikey, you may want to check this out!
[08:58] <intelikey> lupine_85 i know it is.
[08:58] <intelikey> dave_ yeah i looked    only repo you don't have is security
[08:58] <matthew> dave_, your sources.list got supremely screwed...you made a backup, right?
[08:59] <unix_infidel> momal: gimpshop
[08:59] <matthew> intelikey, no, he's missing half of his sources.list
[08:59] <dave_> nope????
[08:59] <intelikey> matthew not really it didn't.
[08:59] <intelikey> matthew he only needs three lines.
[08:59] <matthew> intelikey, looks like more to me...
[08:59] <momal> !sourceomatic
[08:59] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic.  It does not currently support Edgy sources.  When asked if it will, the reply was "maybe".
[08:59] <unix_infidel> momal: also some people have had success with ps7 in linux.
[08:59] <matthew> darn I wanted it to be really bad, then I could go to bed with a feeling of satisfaction.
[09:00] <matthew> oh well.
[09:00] <unix_infidel> and there's always vmware.
[09:00] <londo4> Help with this repositor :deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf dapper free non-free.  when I hit sudo apt-get I get this Error:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38066/
[09:00] <matthew> !sourcomatic | dave_
[09:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sourcomatic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:00] <matthew> !sourceomatic | dave_
[09:00] <ubotu> dave_: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic.  It does not currently support Edgy sources.  When asked if it will, the reply was "maybe".
[09:00] <lupine_85> making edgy sources is easy
[09:00] <intelikey> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main universe multiverse
[09:00] <intelikey> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main universe multiverse
[09:00] <intelikey> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main universe multiverse
[09:00] <lupine_85> make dapper ones, then s/dapper/edgy/
[09:01] <intelikey> that's all my sources.list has in it  ^
[09:01] <momal> unix_infidel: thanks... yea Im currently running ps: cs2 under vmware its just annoying though >_<.
[09:01] <londo4> Help Help
[09:01] <lupine_85> londo4: that repo doesn't exist any more
[09:01] <lupine_85> !seveas
[09:01] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[09:01] <lupine_85> try that
[09:02] <dave_> so get the ubuntu one?
[09:02] <intelikey> dave_ you do see what i posted ^ ?
[09:02] <matthew> ok, I'm going to bed.
[09:02] <matthew> intelikey, you got this?
[09:02] <matthew> dave_, if you have anymore questions, talk to intelikey
[09:02] <matthew> g'night all
[09:03] <dave_> thanks
[09:03] <dave_> sorry bout been a noob
[09:03] <matthew> dave_, np, so long as you learn. remember, we all started somewhere
[09:03] <dave_> :)
[09:03] <intelikey> not me.  i started nowhere.
[09:04] <matthew> intelikey, oh yeah? well, I started everywhere!
[09:04] <intelikey> and havent gotten to somewhere yet.
[09:04] <matthew> everywhere inc. that is...lol
[09:04] <matthew> ok, now I really _am_ going to bed!
[09:04] <intelikey> matthew yeah but you haven't gotten anywhere ?
[09:05] <matthew> I already am everywhere...why go anywhere?
[09:05] <matthew> wait, no...I'm in bed, remember?
[09:05] <intelikey> see
[09:05] <matthew> no...good night
[09:05] <intelikey> :)
[09:05] <intelikey> good night and good luck to your pinguin
[09:05] <matthew> thanks....
[09:07] <intelikey> i have a very issue.   all my issues are very odd, but this is no exception.    df doesn't list the root fs
[09:07] <intelikey> tty24 [root@~]  df
[09:07] <intelikey> Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
[09:07] <intelikey> tty24 [root@~] 
[09:07] <intelikey> very odd that is.  ^
[09:08] <jamesb_> intelikey: tried "df /" ?
[09:09] <intelikey> hehhe that works but still odd output.
[09:09] <intelikey> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[09:09] <intelikey> -                     1.2G  1.2G   76M  94% /
[09:10] <BrianSteffens> can anyone help me figure out why ssh is telling me remote host identification has changed?
[09:10] <Lathiat> BrianSteffens: that means perhaps ssh was reinstalled
[09:10] <Lathiat> BrianSteffens: or you changed the ip of the host and there was one you used before
[09:10] <BrianSteffens> lathiat fressh ssh installs on both server and client
[09:10] <Lathiat> BrianSteffens: if you remove the line from .ssh/known_hosts that it says it'l go away (but only do this if you know the key should have changed, i.e. its a different machien or you reinstalled)
[09:11] <Lathiat> BrianSteffens: or to be lazy and cheat remove the whole fil
[09:11] <Lathiat> e
[09:11] <intelikey> you can probably rm ~/.ssh
[09:11] <intelikey> -r
[09:11] <BrianSteffens> lathiat ok thanks :D
[09:12] <intelikey> and mount doesn't / as being mounted
[09:12] <intelikey> tty24 [root@~]  mount
[09:12] <intelikey> tty24 [root@~] 
[09:13] <intelikey> that's kinda kewl.   i don't remember making it do that.
[09:14] <intelikey> not sure how i did it either...
[09:14] <Alarm> goodmorning... how could i set my system up so that it will create a boot.log file ? i saw that with KsystemLog app, it tells me that the file boot.log does not exist
[09:14] <dave_> intelikeyyyyy stuck again
[09:14] <intelikey> dave_ k what it is ?
[09:14] <dave_> the source code i dont understand those links ou sent me>
[09:15] <intelikey> i didn't send you....
[09:15] <intelikey> that was matthew
[09:15] <dave_> shuld i just like reinstall kubuntu and  start again
[09:15] <intelikey> i showed you my sources.list
[09:15] <dave_> hmm k well i am friek9ing confussed
[09:15] <intelikey> no no.
[09:16] <dave_> ok1
[09:16] <dave_> !
[09:16] <intelikey> dave_ let me pastebin you a full list and you can clear yours and copy and paste in this one.
[09:16] <intelikey> give me a sec.
[09:16] <dave_> :) so thats  the kate file?
[09:17] <touchme> I've been following the exact set of instructions to install my touchscreen, but I encounter an error
[09:17] <touchme> How do I correct FATAL: Error inserting touch (/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/usb/misc/touch.ko): Invalid module format
[09:17] <intelikey> dave yes   sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:17] <intelikey> dave_ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38071/plain/
[09:18] <lupine_85> kdesu kate ...
[09:18] <intelikey> does kate make backups by default ?
[09:18] <lupine_85> or better, sudo chown me:me <file> && kate <file> && sudo chown root:root <file>
[09:19] <intelikey> lupine_85 no.  you don't want anyone but root owning sources.list
[09:19] <aleksanteri> hey anyone knows a command to reconfigure the internet connection?
[09:19] <lupine_85> for a single-user system it hardly matters much
[09:19] <intelikey> if kate fails  then that doesn't do the last chown.
[09:20] <lupine_85> then s/&&/;/
[09:20] <intelikey> that would work.
[09:20] <aleksanteri> !adsl reconfigure
[09:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adsl reconfigure - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:20] <lupine_85> && is probably a bad habit on my part :S
[09:21] <intelikey> it's a very good tool but not always the best.
[09:21] <aleksanteri> !connection reconfigure
[09:21] <aleksanteri> ...
[09:21] <intelikey> one doesnt want to use the ax to do nose sergury   nor the scaple to split fire wood.
[09:22] <touchme> Anyone?
[09:23] <aleksanteri> !internet connection reconfigure
[09:23] <dave_> ok don that now what can i try to cee if it works?
[09:23] <intelikey> dave_ sudo apt-get update
[09:23] <intelikey> you always do that after you edit sources.list
[09:24] <dave_> command not found?
[09:24] <intelikey> typo.
[09:24] <intelikey> yours.
[09:25] <dave_> ????
[09:26] <intelikey> i'm the only one that gets bash; sudo, command not found.  you have sudo.
[09:27] <intelikey> tty24 [root@~]  sudo
[09:27] <intelikey> bash: sudo: command not found
[09:27] <intelikey> :)
[09:27] <dave_> Sorry?
[09:28] <dave_> what am i surpossed to be doing?
[09:28] <intelikey> dave_ sudo apt-get update
[09:28] <intelikey> in a konsole
[09:28] <intelikey> and your done with that.
[09:29] <aleksanteri> plz? i can't get help from google :S
[09:29] <dave_> seems to be updating!
[09:30] <aleksanteri> !adsl
[09:30] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[09:30] <intelikey> aleksanteri igconfig ?
[09:30] <dave_> have you played with the Klik i thyink its called i was reading about it last night because package maneger wasnt working!?
[09:30] <aleksanteri> o thx :)
[09:30] <oslive> anyone here?
[09:31] <aseigo> no
[09:31] <metres> is it a good way to run synaptic under chroot to get package ?
[09:32] <dave_> how do you run synaptic?
[09:32] <dave_> i am only new soz
[09:32] <intelikey> dave_ you can type in synaptic   or use the menu to launch it.
[09:32] <tidixon> hi, i'm trying to get it so I only have a panel on one desktop and that the other desktops have no panels.  i feel like the option should be someplace but i can't seem to find it, can anyone help?
[09:32] <metres> typing it in konsole..?
[09:33] <intelikey> metres you need to     man chroot
[09:33] <dave_> i dont think i have it yet?
[09:33] <dave_> i cant find it in the menu
[09:33] <intelikey> dave_ try the command   synaptic    and see if it opens
[09:34] <BrianSteffens> to format a partition as ext3, should i use mkfs or mk2fs?
[09:34] <intelikey> mkfs.ext3
[09:34] <BrianSteffens> tyty
[09:34] <intelikey> or mke2fs -j
[09:34] <intelikey> same thing.
[09:34] <dave_> ok i can only runb it in read only function and it loaded but i am lost from here?
[09:35] <intelikey> close it.
[09:35] <intelikey> do kdesu synaptic
[09:35] <dave_> cant scroll  down or anything
[09:35] <intelikey> then it will give you full access.
[09:36] <intelikey> close it.
[09:36] <intelikey> do kdesu synaptic
[09:36] <aleksanteri> :( "igconfig: command not found"
[09:37] <intelikey> ifconfig  not ig    if i said ig it was a typo
[09:37] <aleksanteri> oops
[09:37] <aleksanteri> my fault :P
[09:37] <dave_> OMG OMG I think its Working :)
[09:37] <intelikey> yes i should have said kdesu the first time.
[09:38] <intelikey> that was bad advice i gave.  so i'll take a break
[09:38] <dave_> ok so where would i find the blasted  mp3 decoder so i can listen to music?
[09:38] <intelikey> for about ten days maybe
[09:38] <intelikey> !mpt
[09:38] <intelikey> !mp3
[09:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mpt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:38] <intelikey> dave_ there  ^
[09:40] <intelikey> dave_ search for   libxine-extracodecs   in synaptic  that's easier.
[09:42] <dave_> ok i have download the  libxine-extracodecs so will that automatically but it into my amarok for mp3's
[09:42] <dave_> ?////
[09:43] <dave_> still no mp3's?
[09:45] <dave_> intelikey_i still have no mp3's
[09:46] <deus> wow you guys are still up
[09:47] <malik__> hi all...........i use to be able toplay two sounds at the same time but not anymore...............any idea what may have caused it and how to fix it?
[09:50] <soon> I need a new and complete sources.list ... I found one for ubuntu at http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-edgy-eft-complete-sourceslist-repository-list-file.html
[09:50] <aleksanteri> ok command to enable interface?
[09:50] <soon> will it also work for me kubuntu?
[09:50] <The^Mole> soon: Yes.
[09:50] <soon> thx
[09:52] <soon> would someone flood me a working sources.list (i need to include some python-gtkw stuff)?
[09:52] <aleksanteri> can it be done with ifconfig?
[09:53] <aleksanteri> !pastebin
[09:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:54] <soon> was that a paste for me?
[09:54] <soon> if so I need the specific URL
[09:55] <aleksanteri> !pastebin | soon
[09:55] <ubotu> soon: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:55] <aleksanteri> :P
[09:56] <aleksanteri> a link is there
[09:57] <soon> aleksanteri ... what I need is a copy of your sources.list ...
[09:57] <aleksanteri> well
[09:57] <aleksanteri> i haven't added anything there
[09:57] <soon> so if you would pastbin a copy of yours for me to copy :-)
[09:57] <aleksanteri> also i am on win :P
[09:57] <aleksanteri> because kubuntu can't connect to internet
[09:58] <aleksanteri> but i guess i found the answer now :)
[09:58] <soon> :-) okay thanks anyway
[09:58] <aleksanteri> oh god how can i remember those commands? O_o
[09:59] <aleksanteri> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=107762 the only comment
[09:59] <The^Mole> soon: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38079/
[09:59] <soon> Great thx !
[09:59] <The^Mole> It's not tidy.. but they all work.
[09:59] <The^Mole> I don't whether it's got what you want, though.
[10:00] <avalon> If I have the build-essential package installed, and I'm in a directory with a make file, why can't I get it to do a ./configure and a make?
[10:00] <aleksanteri> is it saying that it can't find automake?
[10:01] <avalon> ./configure: No such file or directory
[10:01] <aleksanteri> use cd
[10:01] <aleksanteri> cd <directory>
[10:01] <aleksanteri> then ./configure
[10:01] <intelikey> hmmm i'm glad i had a custom kernel to boot to    cause booting into the dapper kernel flys streight into runlevel 6
[10:01] <aleksanteri> where <directory> is the directory where the configure file is
[10:02] <avalon> I'm in the directory. I don't have a configure file. In the dir, I have files called COMPILE, makefile, touch.c, touch.h
[10:02] <aleksanteri> ./COMPILE
[10:02] <aleksanteri> then
[10:03] <intelikey> is there anyway to stop a reboot so i can see what the error is ?
[10:03] <aleksanteri> u can only use ./configure when the configure file exists :)
[10:03] <aleksanteri> well
[10:03] <aleksanteri> brb, gonna try those commands out
[10:03] <avalon> sudo: ./COMPILE: command not found
[10:03] <avalon> and without the sudo I get permission denied
[10:04] <intelikey> avalon make configure
[10:04] <avalon> make: *** No rule to make target `configure'.  Stop.
[10:04] <intelikey> avalon make config
[10:04] <intelikey> or menu_config
[10:04] <intelikey> or what ever it does have
[10:05] <intelikey> you can look in the make file and see
[10:05] <intelikey> but it's far better to read the docs
[10:05] <intelikey> they are the files in UPPER CASE
[10:07] <VR_> avalon: i just got here, but do you have build-essential installed?
[10:08] <avalon> Yup.. I got what they wanted me to to do out of the COMPILE file... but I don't think it works with Kubuntu
[10:09] <avalon> I'll paste it with pastebin
[10:09] <avalon> !paste
[10:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:09] <avalon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38082/ How do I do the top part?
[10:11] <avalon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38082/ That's the file VR_, but I don't think the top part will work with our distro will it?
[10:11] <malik__> which packge is neede to burn audio cd from mp3z in k3b?
[10:12] <VR_> avalon: i'm not really sure, but this looks like it should work on any distro
[10:14] <avalon> I get this when I try to do that
[10:14] <avalon> make[2] : *** [drivers/infiniband/ulp/srp]  Error 2
[10:14] <avalon> make[1] : *** [drivers/infiniband]  Error 2
[10:14] <avalon> make: *** [_clean_drivers]  Error 2
[10:15] <VR_> avalon: im sorry man i have no idea what to do with that :
[10:15] <VR_> :(
[10:15] <malik__> which packge is neede to burn audio cd from mp3z in k3b?
[10:16] <dave> hey all again does anyone know if Kopete keeps chat logs and if so where?
[10:17] <armywar> ciao
[10:17] <armywar> ragazzi ho un problema
[10:17] <armywar> non ricordo i suorce
[10:17] <armywar> dove devo inserirli
[10:17] <armywar> e non s quali sono
[10:18] <Lynoure> !it
[10:18] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:18] <Lynoure> I only got that you have a problem (not with what) and maybe something about sound
[10:19] <Lynoure> sound quality? With what?
[10:19] <BrianSteffens> could someone please tell me what is wrong with this fstab line i'm trying to add? : /dev/hda1    /media/storage    /ext3    defaults,errors-remount-ro    0     1
[10:19] <Lynoure> extra /
[10:19] <Lynoure> BrianSteffens: in front of ext3
[10:19] <rcrook> remove the / in /ext3
[10:20] <rcrook> oops
[10:20] <rcrook> sorry to slow
[10:20] <BrianSteffens> oh i'm sorry.. i accidentally wrote that in. ignore that
[10:20] <Lynoure> rcrook: no harm :)
[10:20] <BrianSteffens> that / isn't actually in there
[10:20] <intelikey> well i found the problem.  now if i can fix it...     it seems the the new initramfs.img thought that root was sda in sted of hda
[10:20] <rcrook> the = are supposed to be , ? maybe?
[10:20] <Lynoure> BrianSteffens: please then copy paste the actual line to rule out typos
[10:20] <rcrook> the - 's
[10:20] <AlexC_> hey,
[10:20] <AlexC_> I have a .qtcurve file, but how do I install it?
[10:21] <Lynoure> errors=  and not errors-  , yes
[10:21] <BrianSteffens> pasted: /dev/hda1       /media/storage  ext3    defaults,errors-remount-ro      0       1
[10:21] <intelikey> anybody know anything about initramfs ?
[10:21] <rcrook>  /dev/hda1       /media/storage  ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro      0       1
[10:21] <intelikey> errors=
[10:22] <rcrook> the =
[10:22] <visik7> anyone got issues with kdebluetooth and edgy ?
[10:22] <Lynoure> echoy here today :)
[10:22] <BrianSteffens> ooo thank you all
[10:22] <rcrook> lol yup Lynoure
[10:22] <intelikey> anybody know anything about initramfs ?    ?         ?
[10:23] <Lynoure> visik7: have you checked on the Launchpad yet? The open bugs can be found there?
[10:23] <rcrook> sorry intelikey no idea here
[10:23] <mehmet> alo
[10:23] <intelikey> k
[10:23] <AlexC_> how do I insatll .qtcurve themes, what ever they are!
[10:23] <Lynoure> intelikey: Surprised to see you join the anybody train =)
[10:23] <AlexC_> not as simple as Gnome's drag n drop :P
[10:23] <visik7> Lynoure: yes nothing, more over the problem that I got is not present on another installation
[10:24] <intelikey> Lynoure it was only a shot in the dark.    hopping to get lucky
[10:24] <Lynoure> visik7: different bt hardware, maybe?
[10:24] <visik7> yes
[10:24] <visik7> Lynoure: (my hardware work perfectly on dapper)
[10:25] <intelikey> Lynoure i've asked a lot of questions in here.  only an EXTREEMLY small number of them get answered in here.
[10:25] <intelikey> like two.
[10:25] <Lynoure> visik7: then you might find the cause of it on Launchpad
[10:25] <visik7> Lynoure: there isn't any reference to kdebluetooth on malone
[10:25] <Lynoure> intelikey: ok, "yes, but not much"
[10:26] <intelikey> where is the device information stored for mkinitramfs  ?
[10:26] <Lynoure> visik7: at least https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebluetooth
[10:26] <allee> visik7: fwiw: my bt mouse is forgotten everytime it goes to sleep.  Have not looked at 'why' yet
[10:27] <AlexC_> What do I do with a .qtfile? please
[10:27] <AlexC_> .qtcurve*
[10:27] <intelikey> i just made a new initramfs.img but it wrote root as sda  not hda   root for this system is hda     @ Lynoure
[10:27] <Lynoure> intelikey: not in /etc/mkinitramfs/initramfs.conf ?
[10:27] <Lynoure> intelikey: there was one device setting there, at least
[10:29] <intelikey> Lynoure no it's not there.
[10:29] <mehmet> CTRL+ALT+DEL
[10:29] <mehmet> CTRL+ALT+DEL
[10:29] <mehmet> CTRL+ALT+DEL
[10:29] <intelikey> Lynoure grep -HiRe sda /etc/mkinitramfs   comes up empty.
[10:30] <Lynoure> intelikey: interesting, it is there on dapper
[10:30] <Lynoure> no, sorry, misread
[10:30] <intelikey> i'm on dapper.
[10:31] <Lynoure> sda is where you want to write your image?
[10:32] <Lynoure> or where you want it to mount?
[10:32] <tilk> Hello. I read in FAQ "how to play MP3" and there is written "install akode-mpeg agstreamer0.8-mad " but there is nothing called like that in my package manager and I cant play MP3 in this time. My distro is Kubuntu 6.06
[10:32] <intelikey> no it's writing an image that looks for root to be dev/sda   root is hda   so when it boots  it loops to runlevel 6 cause sda is not mounted   even tho   the root fs has to be mounted for init to take over
[10:33] <Lynoure> intelikey: there is a switch for the root setting, and it's as   auto  probably in your configuration file
[10:33] <intelikey> in other words there is stale information about the root fs being sda   from before i copied things over.
[10:33] <intelikey> root= local  or nfs
[10:34] <intelikey> no help done looked.
[10:36] <Lynoure> intelikey: it's very interesting if what you want is not explained in man initramfs.conf  but luckily I did not claim to know the answer :)
[10:37] <intelikey> well thinks for the ToD Lynoure,  at least you tried.  :)
[10:37] <ReTyPe> how do i install xgl on ubuntu 6.10 ?
[10:38] <AlexC_> What do I do with a .qtcurve file please?
[10:39] <Lynoure> intelikey: good luck, once you find your answer, it might make sense to blog about it or something, to help others find it too
[10:39] <AlexC_> ReTyPe: there is a good guide on the Beryl Wiki
[10:40] <intelikey> k
[10:41] <AlexC_> anyone have any idea on what to do with a .qtcurve file?
[10:42] <intelikey> AlexC_ ~/.qtcurve   ?
[10:43] <AlexC_> intelikey: well it's a theme I downloaded,
[10:43] <intelikey> no idea     not a gui guy.
[10:43] <AlexC_> hum, can't believe it's this hard to install new themes in kde!
[10:46] <intelikey> Lynoure i found my answer.    disreguard all previous remarks.    pebcak has struck again.
[10:46] <Jucato> what kind of "theme" is it?
[10:46] <Jucato> pebcak or pebkac?
[10:46] <Jucato> AlexC_: http://docs.kde.org/userguide/customizing-desktop.html
[10:46] <AlexC_> Jucato: a nice theme ... I don't know what you mean lol
[10:46] <AlexC_> ahh tahnks, I'll check that out
[10:46] <AlexC_> s/tahnks/thanks
[10:47] <Jucato> which looks better? PEBKAC or PEBCAK? just wondering...
[10:47] <intelikey> Lynoure it seems i had hacked /etc/init.d/chkrootfs.sh    and it was the offending file, not the initramfs.
[10:47] <intelikey> Jucato it depends on which dirrection it's going.
[10:48] <intelikey> one might say pebcac  but that would confuse many.
[10:48] <intelikey> console and chair
[10:48] <Jucato> :)
[10:48] <AlexC_> or Konsole :P
[10:48] <AlexC_> Problem Exists between Konsole and Console
[10:49] <Jucato> ok Konqueror...
[10:49] <Jucato> or KDE... or...
[10:49] <Jucato> s/ok/or
[10:49] <Lynoure> intelikey: :)
[10:49] <Jucato> darn typo faeries...
[10:49] <intelikey> but the standard of the keyborad and the chair is pretty discriptive
[10:50] <intelikey> Lynoure odd that that some bit of code doesn't offend withthis kernel though.....
[10:50] <intelikey> have a look.   e2fsck /dev/hda && mount -no remount,rw / || reboot
[10:50] <intelikey> tell me why that would reboot one kernel but not another.
[10:51] <intelikey> well that's the repaired string   it had    sda    where hda is now.
[10:52] <intelikey> that is ran from    /etc/rcS.d/S00checkroot.sh
[10:52] <Lynoure> intelikey: I can probably not figure that out without having the kernels. And possibly other bits of information.
[10:52] <intelikey> yeah.   i only meant venture a guess  :)
[10:53] <Lynoure> I do not have a guess I would be willing to bet on :)
[10:53] <intelikey> me neither....
[10:53] <intelikey> they are both 2.6.15 kernels
[10:54] <Lynoure> Some difference in the ext2 support?
[10:54] <TheMole> Hi, my edgy box has *just* decided that it no longer wants to mount my mass storage device. I've tried it with two different devices and rebooted but to no avail, any idea how to do it manually?
[10:54] <intelikey> one has built-in ide scsi extfs support the other doesnt
[10:54] <intelikey> but the sda is never mounted.
[10:55] <intelikey> it should reboot both of them.
[10:55] <intelikey> TheMole unpluge/replug it ?    (thinking usb...)
[10:56] <TheMole> intelikey: Yup, done that multiple times, tried different points.
[10:56] <TheMole> It recognises the device is there if I probe it, but wont mount it.
[10:56] <Lynoure> TheMole: And there _is_ something mountable there?
[10:57] <TheMole> Lynoure: What do you mean?
[10:57] <Lynoure> TheMole: I just asked a question, to make sure.
[10:57] <TheMole> No, I mean... by that what do you mean?
[10:58] <stdin> a file system
[10:58] <Lynoure> TheMole: No hidden meanings, just that if your disk is one big blob without partitioning, then it could note mount
[10:58] <Lynoure> s/note/not
[10:58] <TheMole> Ah, yes, there is a file system there.
[10:58] <intelikey> Lynoure i have no partitions.
[10:58] <Lynoure> stdin: you were so much clearer with so less words
[10:59] <intelikey> 8 drives  and not one partition.
[10:59] <stdin> it's a gift :p
[10:59] <Lynoure> intelikey: I'm non-native, tired and hungry and not very much of a verbal wizard at my best :)
[10:59] <intelikey> :)
[11:00] <TheMole> There isn't a mention of /media/sda in my fstab file, should there be?
[11:01] <stdin> TheMole: not if it's removable and not always connected
[11:01] <TheMole> Ahh.
[11:01] <TheMole> So, what is the command to mount a sda manually?
[11:01] <Lynoure> TheMole: no, automounting does not require that. But, so, what has changed since the last time? THere is also a brutal possibility of something being wrong with your disk.
[11:01] <intelikey> TheMole you can make an entry with "noauto" as a option.
[11:02] <TheMole> Lynoure: Nothing has changed at all... tried it with two different devices, my phone and mp3 player.
[11:02] <Lynoure> TheMole: which filesystem you have on it? and do you have it on sda (unusual) or like on sda1?
[11:02] <intelikey> TheMole sudo mount /dev/sda /media/sda
[11:02] <stdin> TheMole: for removable devices, one usually uses pmount /dev/sda1 [name] 
[11:02] <stdin> no sudo needed
[11:02] <intelikey> but if it's partitioned it will be sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1
[11:03] <TheMole> mount point does not exist.
[11:03] <stdin> pmount creates a mount point in /media
[11:03] <TheMole> it's on sda.
[11:03] <intelikey> TheMole partitioned or not ?
[11:03] <TheMole> intelikey: Nope.
[11:03] <stdin> TheMole: what do you get with "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda" ?
[11:03] <TheMole> It's a 1GB SD card, formatted with FAT (I believe)
[11:04] <TheMole> nothing, back to the shell.
[11:05] <stdin> have you tried the pmount command?
[11:05] <TheMole> Yeh, no /dev/sda found apparently.
[11:06] <TheMole> Well, what do you know... it seems it's my usb port.
[11:06] <goodthing> i have a weird thing with raid1, when i archive files from /media/sda2/folder/. /media/backup(raid)/folder. and the copy a lot of files the system blanks on me
[11:06] <TheMole> Just unplugged my mouse and tried in that port and it works.
[11:06] <TheMole> Many thanks for all your help, though!
[11:07] <intelikey> back
[11:08] <stdin> you logged in as root intelikey?
[11:08] <intelikey> no
[11:08] <intelikey> well yes but not to irc  :)
[11:09] <stdin> tuy tut :p
[11:09] <intelikey> i have  a root console open
[11:09] <stdin> you ident says n=root@...
[11:09] <intelikey> stdin i know :)          but the root console.. i have to ahve or i have no root access at all
[11:10] <Lynoure> easy to fake, though I do not see the motivation
[11:10] <Lynoure> (not to that, anyway)
[11:10] <intelikey> it keeps me out of some channels
[11:10] <intelikey> :)
[11:10] <intelikey> like debian for example  :)
[11:11] <Lynoure> why?
[11:11] <intelikey> ?
[11:11] <intelikey> cause they ban root.
[11:11] <Lynoure> Interesting.
[11:11] <intelikey> my irc client says i'm root... do the math.
[11:12] <intelikey> or did you mean why use something that does keep me out ....
[11:12] <lupine_85> mwahaha
[11:12] <intelikey> lupine_85 if ya can :)
[11:12] <goodthing> why would a cp -va /media/sda2/folder1/. /media/backup/folder1/. being able to freeze my system?
[11:12] <intelikey> 63.157.90.191
[11:12] <lupine_85> gah, if only you'd run bitchx... :p
[11:12] <intelikey> ssh is runnig have at it
[11:12] <Lynoure> intelikey: had no idea what they had banned. or whether you just get kicked, or treated badly, or feared getting targetted
[11:13] <intelikey> Lynoure no.  they have a permanatn ban on root    lots of channels do.
[11:13] <intelikey> so i just don't go there.
[11:15] <intelikey> would you like an account name... ?
[11:16] <intelikey> try guest  with passwd=x
[11:19] <towync> does anyone know how i can do checksum?
[11:19] <Lynoure> see man md5sum
[11:19] <towync> k,
[11:20] <towync> how do i get out of man md5sum
[11:20] <goodthing> q
[11:20] <stdin> press Q
[11:20] <towync> cool thx goodthing, thx stdin =)
[11:21] <towync> works out fine, and thx Lynoure =)
[11:21] <intelikey> towync you were "less"  you can    man less    for info    it's a very useful tool.
[11:22] <towync> intelikey hi there, haven't seen you in couple days =)
[11:23] <towync> intelikey what does u were less mean =) i checked man less, but got confused =)
[11:24] <intelikey> less     less is more than more.    the less pager. it has search functions save capabilities   bi-dirrectional scrolling/paging   you can pipe things into it...
[11:24] <intelikey> when you do things that are going to output a lot of text and you want to be able to look at all of it   pipe through less.     command | less
[11:24] <towync> intelikey ah cool, yeah i started seeing great tips in the man less pageee, i'll keep the command in mind, they explained some background info too, thx
[11:25] <intelikey> you bet.
[11:25] <stdin> less is very useful when looking at logs for example
[11:25] <intelikey> yep
[11:25] <intelikey> it's just a very useful tool.
[11:26] <intelikey> i absolutely despize that "more like feture" of bash.   i end up turning it off the first day i install....   more is so much less than less.
[11:27] <towync> intelikey yeah, man more is a lot less informative than man less, it has 131 lines in man more and 8 times as much in man less =)
[11:28] <intelikey> towync yeah.     and why they would build more into bash is beyond me.   that was a code monkey in emacs i guess.
[11:29] <towync> cool =)
[11:29] <rishikesh>  was configuring my ADSL router, the ethernet port is detected, but the usb port is not
[11:29] <rishikesh> [15:56]  <rishikesh> tried the command "pppoeconf -C" but not working
[11:29] <rishikesh> [15:56]  <rishikesh> any idea how to go about it?
[11:29] <towync> i just downloaded feisty herd1 and wanted to do a checksum
[11:30] <brandon__> can anyone here help with an audio distortion problem
[11:31] <rishikesh> anybody knowing how 2 configure da USB port connection in the ADSL router as it is not shown in the availble connections List
[11:32] <intelikey> !sound | brandon__
[11:32] <ubotu> brandon__: If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[11:44] <intelikey> i wish i could stop this thing from opening tty[5-7]  at boot time.
[11:54] <intelikey> running X and playing a game (wesnoth)  free -m reports
[11:54] <intelikey> -/+ buffers/cache:         51        197
[11:54] <intelikey> end the game and i get
[11:54] <intelikey> -/+ buffers/cache:         22        226
[11:55] <intelikey> x running within 22m of ram.    i'm pleased with that.
[11:57] <intelikey> what does that say about the 2g+ systems that they enable 6g+ of swap   hehhe
[12:00] <toutpt> hi there
[12:01] <intelikey> toutpt
[12:01] <stdin> !hi
[12:01] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[12:01] <joshual> does anyone use e17 with kubuntu? wondering if I should try the SeerOfSouls e17 repo, or the edevelop e17 repo... any thoughts?
[12:01] <toutpt> does anyone use eclipse with edgy ?
[12:02] <lupine_85> toutpt: nah, I'm strictly a KDevelop or kate person :)
[12:02] <toutpt> shame on me
[12:02] <lupine_85> :p
[12:02] <toutpt> sorry just to try a module from a friend
[12:02] <toutpt> i m using kate to develop
[12:03] <marioct> hi toupt I use eclipse with buntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5
[12:03] <marioct> Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5)
[12:04] <toutpt> i m on a ubuntu 6.10
[12:07] <vge> toutpt: yes, i use eclipse
[12:08] <toutpt> from the package
[12:09] <toutpt> ??
[12:09] <vge> yes, 3.2 from repos
[12:09] <vge> 3.2.1
[12:10] <toutpt> :/
[12:16] <TheMole> Hi, I've just done an update on my edgy distribution.. But now my nvidia drivers don't work. I tried selecting nvidia in xconfigure and I installed the restricted modules that match my kernel, but still no logo.
[12:16] <ironfroggy_LT> what is port 98 for?
[12:18] <TheMole> ironfroggy_LT: http://www.auditmypc.com/port/udp-port-98.asp
[12:29] <benjamin> hi, is there somwhere a list with k/ubuntu supported laserprinters?
[12:32] <stdin> benjamin: take a look at this website http://www.freestandards.org/en/OpenPrinting
[12:32] <Jucato_> !printer
[12:32] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[12:33] <stdin> that's more cups info
[12:34] <benjamin> stdin:  thanks
[12:53] <guapoloco> hi
[12:53] <guapoloco> anybody using beryl?
[12:53] <guapoloco> nobody home?
[12:53] <guapoloco> it is really cool
[12:53] <stdin> hi guapoloco, I use beryl
[12:53] <guapoloco> excellent
[12:54] <guapoloco> just got the update 1.4
[12:54] <guapoloco> it's awesome
[12:54] <guapoloco> had a bunch of issues, but this one seems to be stable
[12:54] <stdin> I always get it from svn, usually compile/install overnight
[12:54] <guapoloco> yeap
[12:54] <guapoloco> same here
[12:55] <stdin> have you seen the snow plugin?
[12:55] <guapoloco> ohhh, no, not yet
[12:55] <guapoloco> I was just testing the fire one
[12:55] <guapoloco> burn
[12:55] <guapoloco> looks cool
[12:55] <guapoloco> let me see
[12:55] <guapoloco> about the snow one
[12:56] <guapoloco> don't see it
[12:56] <guapoloco> I'm looking at the animations tab
[12:57] <guapoloco> is it part of the animations?
[12:58] <JohnFlux> i use beryl from time to time
[12:58] <JohnFlux> but keep going back to kwin
[12:58] <guapoloco> yeah, it was buggy
[12:58] <JohnFlux> i can't wait for kwin to have compiz support
[12:58] <guapoloco> after I updated to edgy
[12:58] <guapoloco> but beryl 1.4 is really cool
[12:58] <guapoloco> svn
[12:59] <guapoloco> well, going to check some other stuff
[12:59] <guapoloco> have a great time
[12:59] <guapoloco> take care you all
[12:59] <JohnFlux> cya
[12:59] <guapoloco> this reminds me on the earlier days of chatting
[01:00] <guapoloco> where everybody was kind of educated
[01:00] <guapoloco> haha
[01:00] <guapoloco> see ya
[01:15] <malik__> !video cd
[01:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about video cd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:17] <j_> !gstreamer
[01:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gstreamer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:18] <j_> is there any benefit in using aRts instead of gstreamer for audio output?
[01:18] <j_> !arts
[01:18] <ubotu> arts: sound system from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.4-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 5 kB, installed size 36 kB
[01:19] <malik__> does any   one knows how to make vcd in k3b or kubuntu?
[01:19] <j_> google doesn't know, seems like no one konws
[01:50] <soulrider> hi
[01:50] <soulrider> is anyone here having issues with open office just crashing randomly ?
[01:50] <soulrider> !java
[01:50] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[01:52] <[GuS] > Hi!
[01:52] <ashadee> hello
[01:53] <ashadee> need some help on java with firefox
[01:53] <stdin> what's the problem ashadee?
[01:54] <ashadee> it always says missing plugin for java run time.
[01:54] <brandon__> does anyone know how to change hostname
[01:54] <stdin> have you installed sun-java5-bin and sun-java5-plugin ?
[01:54] <ashadee> yes i did
[01:55] <stdin> brandon__: read man hostname
[01:55] <Jucato> sun-java5-plugin must be installed separately. it doesn't get installed with sun-java5-bin or sun-java5-jre...
[01:56] <ashadee> ok.
[01:56] <stdin> ashadee: what do you see when you go to about:plugins in firefox?
[01:56] <brandon__> stdin: hostname name smith
[01:56] <stdin> huh?
[01:57] <brandon__> i still don't get how to do it
[01:57] <stdin> I said to rad the man page
[01:57] <stdin> man hostname
[01:57] <brandon__> oh wait i did it right
[01:57] <brandon__> sorry
[01:57] <stdin> it tells you how to change the hostnemw
[01:57] <stdin> *hostname
[01:58] <ashadee> stdin: where is about:plugins? i can't find that menu option
[01:58] <abattoir> !hostname
[01:58] <ubotu> Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly
[01:58] <Jucato> ashadee: type that in firefox's address bar
[01:59] <stdin> ^^^ yep
[01:59] <Guardian> hi
[01:59] <Guardian> is there a documentation dedicated to kubuntu+compiz ?
[02:00] <abattoir> !compiz
[02:00] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:00] <ashadee> shockwave and furesplash
[02:00] <Jucato> hm...
[02:00] <Jucato> ashadee: did you do "sudo update-alternatives --config java" already?
[02:01] <Guardian> ah gonna check this tinyurl thx
[02:03] <vge> is it possible to connect trought two servers into cvs server?
[02:04] <k> hi
[02:05] <k> i need some help please
[02:05] <thePuck> is anyone here?
[02:05] <vge> !ask
[02:05] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:05] <thePuck> lol
[02:05] <thePuck> k
[02:06] <K> sorry
[02:06] <Jucato> !anyone
[02:06] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:06] <Jucato> :)
[02:07] <thePuck> I did a fresh install of windows and made two partitions with the xp part. manager and now it has all the free space set up as logical paritions and I can't make any primary partitions now...will the kernel care what kind of parition it boots from?
[02:08] <thePuck> anyone?
[02:08] <stdin> AFAIK linux won't care, as long as grub can see the partition, it will boot
[02:09] <thePuck> hmm ok thanks wish me luck
[02:09] <stdin> good luck :p
[02:09] <vge> gl
[02:12] <linux_> hey guys, I have a little problem there is combody on the network with a DHCP-server probably he doesn't now that it is on
[02:12] <linux_> is there a program so that I can see who had a DHCP on ?
[02:13] <stdin> linux_: ethereal, it will let you see where the DHCP packets are coming from
[02:19] <Windwalker> Hi. Can somebody tell me what the "/usr/bin/screen" option offers when adding a user?
[02:20] <linux_> okey thanks I will try that :)
[02:29] <cryptom> hi, is there a linux programm that can download an entire website (with every locally linked page)?
[02:30] <Lynoure> cryptom: wget
[02:31] <Lynoure> cryptom: But you need to get to know it a bit, or you'll easily download too much or too little
[02:31] <cryptom> do you know the options? I'm in a hurry, we have a disciplinary problem in a school, dont know how long the page will be online
[02:35] <Realistic_Dragon> morning all
[02:36] <j_> Anyone have a pretty graphic for the KDE start button? the default one has too much gloss
[02:38] <j_> actually I think I'll create a dragon-themed myself, it'l be the beginnig of my full blown kde-theme =)
[02:40] <j_> except I can't find the graphic
[02:44] <tamacracker> Hey guys, where's my icon folder located?
[02:44] <tamacracker> I'd like to use them for some images of my own.
[02:45] <Hobbsee> tamacracker: /usr/share/icons/
[02:45] <tamacracker> okies :D
[02:45] <Hobbsee> do a locate icons to see all of them
[02:50] <sandbox> Question for everyone: Running kubuntu 6.10 edgy, I'm trying to install a command line MSN client and after running ./configure I'm getting an error ssl.h not found. Any Suggestions?
[02:52] <Hobbsee> install openssl-dev
[02:52] <Hobbsee> but what are you trying to compile?
[02:52] <sandbox> It's called tmsnc
[02:52] <sandbox> text based msn client
[02:53] <Hobbsee> !info tmsnc edgy
[02:53] <ubotu> tmsnc: textbased (console) MSN client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-1 (edgy), package size 43 kB, installed size 156 kB
[02:53] <Hobbsee> sandbox: sudo apt-get install tmsnc - it's already in the repos
[02:53] <sandbox> Please tell me you're joking.
[02:53] <Hobbsee> nope
[02:53] <soulrider> Hobbsee: you know of any CLI that will work like conky? by that i mean it can sit in my desktop background
[02:54] <sandbox> (:
[02:54] <Hobbsee> !info conky
[02:54] <ubotu> conky: highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.2-1 (edgy), package size 118 kB, installed size 376 kB
[02:54] <Hobbsee> i dont understand the question
[02:54] <soulrider> well
[02:54] <soulrider> you see how conky shows the satts in the background?
[02:54] <Realistic_Dragon> conky is buggy with KDE
[02:54] <soulrider> i want a console that can be in the background
[02:54] <Realistic_Dragon> it doesnt work if you have desktop icons instead
[02:54] <soulrider> like some sort of wallpaper :P
[02:55] <soulrider> Realistic_Dragon: i never ahve icons, hate icons
[02:55] <Hobbsee> oh right
[02:55] <Realistic_Dragon> hmm, for a background console... read only or interactive?
[02:55] <Hobbsee> you could just maximise a console  i guses, i'm not sure
[02:55] <Realistic_Dragon> id try aterm with the right settings
[02:55] <soulrider> Realistic_Dragon: interactive of course
[02:55] <soulrider> !info aterm
[02:55] <ubotu> aterm: Afterstep XVT - a VT102 emulator for the X window system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0-2 (edgy), package size 78 kB, installed size 224 kB
[02:55] <Realistic_Dragon> aterm then
[02:56] <Realistic_Dragon> i think you can get superkaramba to do what you want as well but itll be a pest :)
[02:56] <soulrider> lol
[02:56] <soulrider> i need to get a decent conky script
[02:56] <Realistic_Dragon> you can use the kde WM to switch off borderss for aterm and set transparency and geomety, then set it to 'always below'
[02:56] <soulrider> sometimes  all i see is a black square with some scripts
[02:57] <soulrider> ahh, good idea Realistic_Dragon
[02:57] <Realistic_Dragon> well, if you do decide to give superkaramba (a bit like conky) a go then there are some optimised scripts on my website :)
[02:57] <Realistic_Dragon> the ones on kde-look eat far too much CPU time so i made some modifications :P
[02:57] <soulrider> i have used superkaramba on the past
[02:58] <soulrider> and a link toy oure site would be interesting :P
[02:58] <Realistic_Dragon> www.revis.org
[02:58] <soulrider> moms calling me to go have lunch
[02:58] <soulrider> ill be back later, and thanks for the tips :D
[02:58] <Realistic_Dragon> np
[03:04] <lars__> hello! is anyone speaking german?
[03:05] <stdin> !de
[03:05] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:05] <lars__> kann mir jemand sagen, wieso amarok keine mp3 dateien abspielt?
[03:05] <stdin> !de | lars__
[03:05] <ubotu> lars__: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:06] <Realistic_Dragon> the only thing i can say in german these days is "i have a stick"
[03:06] <Realistic_Dragon> and im not even sure if that is correct anymore :P
[03:07] <stdin> I can say "that is good"
[03:07] <Realistic_Dragon> oh, and "i am a doughnut" :D
[03:08] <stdin> why would you need to say that tho :p
[03:08] <Realistic_Dragon> JFK said it :o added a word and changed the meaning from "i am a berliner" to "i am one doughnut"
[03:09] <j> !scandinavian
[03:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about scandinavian - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:09] <j> !utf-8
[03:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about utf-8 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:22] <soulrider> !info sensors-applet
[03:22] <ubotu> sensors-applet: Display readings from hardware sensors in your Gnome panel. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.8+dfsg-1 (edgy), package size 86 kB, installed size 452 kB
[03:23] <DarkWizdom> !xmms crash fix
[03:23] <ubotu> xmms: Versatile X audio player. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.10+cvs20060429-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1085 kB, installed size 7248 kB
[03:24] <Jucato> :O
[03:24] <Jucato> there's only a factoid for "adept crash fix" :)
[03:27] <Realistic_Dragon> hmm i saw something on the wiki somewhere
[03:27] <Realistic_Dragon> you can use apt to rebuild the database i think
[03:27] <Jucato> what do you mean?
[03:27] <Jucato> I think he was trying to look for a factoid about xmms crashing...
[03:27] <Windwalker> anybody here using freenx?
[03:27] <Realistic_Dragon> oic
[03:27] <Realistic_Dragon> sorry
[03:28] <Jucato> :)
[03:28] <asirus> ruskogovoryashie imeutsya?
[03:28] <Windwalker> asirus, ia govoriu nemnojko :)
[03:28] <DarkWizdom> yeah I was :D quite new to this :P
[03:29] <DarkWizdom> nu i ya toje ;)
[03:29] <Windwalker> ;)
[03:29] <OOD> anyone know how to change the default file manager?
[03:29] <Windwalker> anybody using freenx and Kubuntu 6.06 or 6.10?
[03:30] <Jucato> OOD: not really sure, but I think it involves changing the File Association for some of the items in the inode group
[03:30] <asirus> Windwalker: mne nyjen izraelskiu channel #russisrael - znaesh' kak popast'?
[03:30] <Windwalker> asirus, k sojalenie net
[03:31] <asirus> ok tnx anyway $)
[03:31] <Windwalker> ti uveren shto etoto kanal v irc.freenode?
[03:31] <asirus> net
[03:32] <asirus> sha proverim
[03:32] <DarkWizdom> aleksanteri how do you like Edgy? :)
[03:32] <aleksanteri> internet doesn't work
[03:32] <aleksanteri> :|
[03:32] <DarkWizdom> hhah
[03:32] <DarkWizdom> happens :)
[03:32] <asirus> fyx IRC,Net
[03:32] <asirus> $)
[03:33] <aleksanteri> DarkWizdom: you know how to fix? :P
[03:33] <DarkWizdom> depends what's the problem
[03:33] <DarkWizdom>  :|
[03:34] <aleksanteri> DarkWizdom: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=322216
[03:35] <OOD> Jucato: i tried it but it's not working
[03:36] <Jucato> oh... :(
[03:36] <Jucato> OOD: you changed the file association for folders?
[03:36] <OOD> yeah
[03:36] <Jucato> er.. directories?
[03:36] <Jucato> oh ok... :(
[03:37] <OOD> ah wait, directory works :D
[03:38] <DarkWizdom> aleksanteri: when the interface is enabled, what output does ifconfig give?
[03:38] <aleksanteri> well :P text
[03:38] <aleksanteri> about 6-7 lines
[03:38] <aleksanteri> no errors
[03:39] <DarkWizdom> I know :)) what exactly
[03:39] <DarkWizdom> does it show your ip?
[03:39] <aleksanteri> i think it did
[03:39] <OOD> Jucato: perfect, thanks :)
[03:39] <Jucato> heh np. just don't blame me for weird things that may happen :P
[03:40] <aleksanteri> when i run ifdown and then ifup i get those errors
[03:40] <DarkWizdom> hmm... what kind of connection do you have? wi-fi, lan
[03:40] <aleksanteri> adsl
[03:40] <OOD> im running fiesty, so weird things happen all the time :D
[03:40] <Jucato> heh
[03:40] <dima2001> is there a GDEbi alternative for KDE in development right now?
[03:41] <dima2001> just don't want to do double work (:
[03:41] <DarkWizdom> aleksanteri: you don't have any wierd type of network card, do you? :)
[03:42] <aleksanteri> network card? O_o
[03:42] <DarkWizdom> ops :D
[03:42] <DarkWizdom> used to sharind adsl with friends..
[03:42] <aleksanteri> no mine is personal :P
[03:43] <hazard> do cron scripts of local users run even if the user isn't logged in?
[03:43] <DarkWizdom> anyway, "Also check your configuration file (/etc/network/interfaces)"
[03:43] <hazard> (specifically root's?)
[03:43] <aleksanteri> ye i did
[03:43] <DarkWizdom> everything ok there?
[03:43] <aleksanteri> don't know :P what should be wrong there?
[03:44] <DarkWizdom> post it and I'll tell you :D
[03:44] <aleksanteri> using pastebin? :P
[03:44] <DarkWizdom> also, check synaptic for broken packages
[03:44] <DarkWizdom> yeah
[03:44] <aleksanteri> ok
[03:44] <aleksanteri> but :P
[03:44] <aleksanteri> the thing is that i need to store it into a text file and then over usb to here :D
[03:44] <aleksanteri> o well
[03:44] <aleksanteri> brb
[03:45] <DarkWizdom> ok :))
[03:51] <BluesKaj> Howdy all ! :)
[03:52] <aleksanteri> !pastebin
[03:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:52] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: HOwdy do
[03:53] <BluesKaj> Hi DaSkreech, what's shakin'
[03:53] <aleksanteri> hmm where did that text file suddenly disappear?
[03:53] <DarkWizdom>  :D
[03:53] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Bash script Fu
[03:54] <aleksanteri> O_O
[03:54] <ForgeAus> hey all :)
[03:54] <gubuntu> how do i get sshd action in konqueror
[03:54] <gubuntu> similar to gnomes: "connect to server (ssh)"
[03:54] <BluesKaj> Bash script ? ...is that like a shell command ?
[03:57] <aleksanteri> well itc i need to get a new one
[03:57] <aleksanteri> :|
[03:58] <DarkWizdom> :D
[03:58] <aleksanteri> :P
[03:58] <aleksanteri> brb
[03:58] <DarkWizdom> leave a link for me in private
[03:58] <DarkWizdom> need to go :(
[03:58] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Yeah :)
[03:59] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Or to be moe specfic a whole set of commands done as one command
[03:59] <DaSkreech> gubuntu: open konqueror
[03:59] <DaSkreech> gubuntu: type in fish://username@url
[03:59] <DaSkreech> ForgeAus: hi
[04:00] <DaSkreech> nikkiana_lappy: Hello
[04:00] <BluesKaj> ik, a script is more than one , err sentence :)
[04:00] <nikkiana_lappy> morning DaSkreech
[04:00] <BluesKaj> ok
[04:00] <DaSkreech> nikkiana_lappy: How are you?
[04:00] <nikkiana_lappy> tired
[04:00] <ForgeAus> hey skreech
[04:01] <ForgeAus> I love kubuntu... sofar
[04:01] <ForgeAus> foresight might be interesting tho
[04:03] <DaSkreech> ForgeAus: That's a new package?
[04:03] <DaSkreech> What does it do?
[04:06] <ubuntu> kaneis ellinas?
[04:06] <gubuntu> thanks DaSkreech
[04:06] <gubuntu> you da man
[04:09] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Which language?
[04:09] <DaSkreech> gubuntu: What did i do?
[04:09] <aleksanteri> ahh finally :D
[04:09] <aleksanteri> !pastebin
[04:09] <ubuntu> greek
[04:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:09] <BluesKaj> !gr
[04:09] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[04:10] <DaSkreech> Thanks BluesKaj
[04:10] <aleksanteri> DarkWizdom: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38114/ here
[04:10] <DarkWizdom> ok :)
[04:11] <jita> what does edgy-propsed repo contain?
[04:11] <DarkWizdom> aleksanteri: you got fixed ip or not?
[04:11] <aleksanteri> i have
[04:12] <DarkWizdom> then it might be better to point that manually... instead of telling it to dhcp
[04:12] <aleksanteri> tried :P
[04:12] <DarkWizdom> unfortunately I need to go now
[04:12] <aleksanteri> awww :(
[04:12] <DarkWizdom> can you give me your e-mail?
[04:13] <DarkWizdom> I'll try to help when I get back :)
[04:13] <aleksanteri> ok :P
[04:13] <stamen> hi
[04:13] <aleksanteri> bye
[04:13] <stamen> who can give me working skype
[04:13] <DarkWizdom> cheers! :)
[04:13] <DarkWizdom> cya
[04:14] <ForgeAus> how do I get to peripherals?
[04:14] <stamen> !skype
[04:14] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[04:14] <jita> what does edgy-propsed repo contain?
[04:14] <jita> !mp3
[04:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:14] <DaSkreech> jita: Where did you see that?
[04:15] <jita> DaSkreech: in ubuntu guide
[04:15] <DaSkreech> jita: gimmie the link?
[04:16] <jita> DaSkreech: you asking about edgy-propsed repo right?
[04:16] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[04:16] <jita> DaSkreech: http://ubuntuguide.org/
[04:17] <jita> DaSkreech: http://ubuntuguide.org/
[04:17] <jita> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[04:18] <DaSkreech> :-)
[04:18] <DaSkreech> My guess would be that it's a future version of edgy backports
[04:18] <Jucato> or... those packages that were proposed to be included into edgy?
[04:18] <jita> maybe
[04:19] <jita> like initramfs
[04:19] <jita> i read somewhere
[04:19] <Jucato> for example, the version of the GIMP in there is the same version in Edgy already
[04:19] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech, can you recommend a free unrar extractor that actually works, Karchiver fails everytime.
[04:19] <ironfroggy_LT> is there a really easy to setup web proxy in apt?
[04:19] <Jucato> BluesKaj: Ark?
[04:19] <DaSkreech> unrar-free
[04:19] <Jucato> DaSkreech: unrar-free is a bit limited compared to unrar
[04:20] <ForgeAus> is there another one like tgunzip?
[04:20] <aleksanteri> konsole?
[04:20] <jita> i am going to upgrade from edgy beta to current, what should i use ? apt-get update upgrade or dist-upgrade?
[04:20] <jita> or aptitude :P
[04:20] <DaSkreech> Jucato: No duh  :)
[04:20] <Dr_willis> ive noticed that winrar.exe  used to work with wine.. but dont work any longer for me. :(
[04:20] <Jucato> dist-upgrade
[04:21] <ForgeAus> wow krusaader does archives?
[04:22] <BluesKaj> ok, installed unrar :)
[04:23] <ForgeAus> yeah you need the commandline tool for krusader
[04:24] <ForgeAus> still I like it :)
[04:24] <icheyne> Krusader is awesome
[04:24] <icheyne> main thing that keeps me on kde
[04:25] <DaSkreech> Jucato: That's what I meant by a futuer backports :)
[04:25] <Jucato> DaSkreech: er?
[04:25] <Jucato> DaSkreech: backports for which release?
[04:26] <DaSkreech> edgy :)
[04:26] <Jucato> it can't be the future backports for Edgy, since it contains the same version of the GIMP
[04:26] <DaSkreech> Whats krusader?
[04:26] <Jucato> !krusader | DaSkreech
[04:26] <ubotu> krusader: twin-panel (commander-style) file manager for KDE (and other desktops). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.70.1-1 (edgy), package size 2547 kB, installed size 6940 kB
[04:26] <ubuntu__> I have to admit.
[04:26] <DaSkreech> Yeah but it did it before backports had it
[04:26] <ForgeAus> its like total commander for windows
[04:26] <ForgeAus> its a file manager...
[04:26] <ubuntu__> I am liking Kubuntu more than regular ol' ubuntu.
[04:26] <DaSkreech> Jucato: ca't you just split the view in Konqueror?
[04:26] <ForgeAus> kinda like konqueror but different
[04:26] <Jucato> DaSkreech: why ask me, I don't use it :P
[04:26] <Kwipper> Kubuntu seems to feel more like Windows.
[04:27] <ForgeAus> daskreech probably
[04:27] <DaSkreech> Kwipper: good Qui.. i mean kwip :)
[04:27] <ForgeAus> but I don't think Konquerer does archiving
[04:27] <DaSkreech> It doesn't?
[04:27] <Jucato> ForgeAus: what do you mean by archiving?
[04:27] <DaSkreech> right clicks and creates an archive
[04:27] <Murchadh> Konqueror does it all!
[04:27] <ForgeAus> .zips, 7z,s etc etc..
[04:27] <aleksanteri> ye :P
[04:27] <icheyne> I didn't know konqui did dual pane view
[04:27] <ForgeAus> does it? wow I didn't know that
[04:27] <Jucato> ForgeAus: it does
[04:27] <aleksanteri> Konqueror rocks
[04:27] <icheyne> how does it do it?
[04:27] <Jucato> icheyne: Ctrl+Shift+L or Ctrl+Shift+T
[04:27] <ForgeAus> sorry I guess I shoul dhave held my tongue
[04:28] <icheyne> Jucato, thanks
[04:28] <Jucato> ForgeAus: of course, it just uses Ark (or whatever archiver app you have)
[04:28] <DaSkreech> For vertical and horizontal
[04:28] <Jucato> icheyne: then Ctrl+Shift+R to close the active/current panel
[04:28] <DaSkreech> Jucato: is there a key to jump between the two?
[04:28] <Jucato> DaSkreech: not really sure... I don't think so...
[04:28] <icheyne> thanks Jucato - I'll see if it rivals Krusader when I get home
[04:28] <Murchadh> ctrl+shift+t or ctrl+shift+l to split panes in klonqi, F9 for a sidebar and you can have a konsole along the bottom.
[04:28] <ForgeAus> Krusader's really kewl anyway
[04:29] <DaSkreech> ForgeAus: :D XD
[04:29] <ForgeAus> jucato, Ark is external to Konqeuror tho isn't it/
[04:29] <ForgeAus> its a separate app
[04:29] <aleksanteri> :)
[04:29] <BluesKaj> ok, how do i extract a file in konq?
[04:29] <Jucato> ForgeAus: yes. you mean Krusader has an internal archiver? :O
[04:29] <ForgeAus> Krusader does it inside
[04:29] <Jucato> BluesKaj: right-click
[04:29] <ForgeAus> yes
[04:29] <aleksanteri> whoo
[04:29] <ForgeAus> well actually its not quite inside
[04:29] <Jucato> hm.... and they say Konqueror tries to do it all..
[04:29] <ForgeAus> (its background)
[04:29] <Kwipper> You know, it would be kinda cool to get Windows XP to look more like Kubuntu.
[04:29] <aleksanteri> ForgeAus: :P
[04:29] <ForgeAus> nah Kwipper
[04:29] <BluesKaj> using konq
[04:30] <DaSkreech> Kwipper: My friendt did it
[04:30] <Kwipper> What is Konq?
[04:30] <DaSkreech> it still crashed
[04:30] <fly_80> hello
[04:30] <Jucato> Kwipper: Konqueror
[04:30] <ForgeAus> krusader uses the command line utils in the b/g I guess
[04:30] <icheyne> Kwipper, the file manager in kde
[04:30] <ForgeAus> I havn't actually tried it yet... but they're required for it to work
[04:30] <ForgeAus> (for many formats)
[04:30] <Jucato> BluesKaj: right-click on the archive in Konqueror, and select Extract -> [one of the options] 
[04:30] <ForgeAus> esp rar
[04:30] <fly_80> anybody can help me making to work the wireless USB card?
[04:30] <Jucato> ForgeAus: Ark is just a pretty frontend to command line utils :)
[04:31] <fly_80> it is detected but it does'nt work
[04:31] <ForgeAus> Jucato, good point
[04:31] <ForgeAus> seems kinda buggy tho to me
[04:31] <ForgeAus> I don't like it much
[04:31] <fly_80> i also tried to install ndiswrapper
[04:31] <fly_80> but it continues to not work
[04:31] <ForgeAus> its like its trying to take off winzip and doing it badly...
[04:31] <Jucato> Basically, Konqueror calls Ark or Ark KPart, which really uses command line utilities...
[04:31] <Kwipper> Ooooh! I am really liking Kubuntu now
[04:31] <ForgeAus> Kwipper its awesome isn't it?
[04:32] <ForgeAus> KDE rox
[04:32] <Kwipper> When I tried playing an MP3 file, it didn't support it, then it did something that Ubuntu doesn't really do. It automatically asked if I wanted to install Mp3 support
[04:32] <Kwipper> That I like!
[04:32] <DaSkreech> :-)
[04:32] <ForgeAus> that other wm xfce? looks a bit bland/oldskool
[04:32] <Jucato> xfce is also lighter and faster :)
[04:32] <ForgeAus> Gnome seems to be somehow in the b/g of kubuntu...
[04:32] <Kwipper> I hope more applications use this. It really makes installing drivers a breeze.
[04:32] <SlimG> Does anyone know why this norwegian site won't show properly in my konqueror 3.5.5? it apparently works in Opera, It's supposed to be listing news but instead shows an animated .gif and the text "Henter saker...": http://kudos.no
[04:33] <DaSkreech> ForgeAus: But runs blazing on the computer in teh corner :)
[04:33] <ForgeAus> JWM?
[04:33] <cloakable> ForgeAus: Joes Window Manager :P
[04:33] <Kwipper> Basically if an application requires something that the computer doesn't have, it should provide an option where you can click on it to fix the problem.
[04:33] <cloakable> !jwm
[04:33] <ubotu> jwm: Very small lightweight pure X11 window manager with tray and menus. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5-1 (edgy), package size 82 kB, installed size 268 kB
[04:33] <Kwipper> BRB
[04:34] <ForgeAus> hmmm beryl is the stuff..
[04:34] <ForgeAus> now that I've mostly ubuntu'd my kubuntu
[04:34] <ForgeAus> eek I forgot nautilus!
[04:34] <DaSkreech> java window manager :)
[04:34] <BluesKaj> I try to use unrar , but it won't load , i jaut get along list of the stuff it will do , but there's no GUI
[04:34] <Jucato> DaSkreech: "java" and "lightweight" don't go together :)
[04:34] <DaSkreech> :-D
[04:35] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: right there is no gui
[04:35] <ForgeAus> kTurtle is awesome :)
[04:35] <DaSkreech> it's a library with a light frontend (cli)
[04:35] <Jucato> BluesKaj: what does right-click -> Extract -> Extract here do?
[04:35] <ForgeAus> the only thing I don't like is how they c-ized the [''s to be {}'s
[04:35] <cloakable> BluesKaj: try ark
[04:36] <aleksanteri> or tar
[04:36] <aleksanteri> :)
[04:36] <DaSkreech> SlimG: Turns up ok for me
[04:36] <Jucato> can't use tar on .rar's
[04:36] <ForgeAus> hmmm can you get adept to do some background installing while your waiting for the rest to d/l?
[04:36] <aleksanteri> o
[04:36] <aleksanteri> :P
[04:36] <ForgeAus> (of course that'd only work for multiple non-dependant packages)
[04:37] <ForgeAus> which is one thing adept rox at, dependancies (lets you know if you break something)
[04:37] <Jucato> ForgeAus: you can't. once APT is doing something, you can't use it for anything else (except searching)
[04:37] <BluesKaj> it brings up ark, and it's not working ...it fails everytime
[04:37] <aleksanteri> got an idea on my connection :P brb
[04:37] <Jucato> BluesKaj: what do you mean by "fails"?
[04:38] <BluesKaj> it tries to extract for a few mins then i get a fail message
[04:38] <ForgeAus> I need to conserve space lol
[04:38] <Jucato> :O
[04:38] <Jucato> ForgeAus: is Ark *that* big?
[04:38] <ForgeAus> prolly not
[04:39] <ForgeAus> its just that I don't need it
[04:39] <BluesKaj> it's juat a few hundred mb
[04:39] <BluesKaj> just
[04:39] <Jucato> BluesKaj: hm.... maybe using unrar directly from the command line would give you more meaningful messages. either that or the archive itself is corrupted
[04:39] <ForgeAus> and 2 command line tools for a format or two are going to be larger...
[04:39] <Jucato> BluesKaj: try opening it directly in Ark (right-click -> open with -> Ark)
[04:39] <BluesKaj> Jucato, what's the right command in the terminal..
[04:40] <BluesKaj> to unrar
[04:40] <ForgeAus> um I odn't think Ark is 100+ mb
[04:40] <Jucato> heh that I don't know :)
[04:40] <ForgeAus> 100+kb perhaps
[04:40] <Jucato> I think "unrar e archive.rar" ?
[04:41] <Dr_willis> unrar --help
[04:41] <Jucato> man:/unrar :)
[04:41] <Dr_willis> :) or actually it prints the help  by default i think
[04:42] <napster> test
[04:42] <Jucato> fail
[04:43] <Guardian> hmm
[04:43] <BluesKaj> ark just failed again
[04:43] <Murchadh> Anyone using konqueror as it installs in k/ubuntu should note that some of it's features are hidden by default. This can fix it sudo cp /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror-orig.rc /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc! You should backup /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc first. cp /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc.bak or something similar.
[04:44] <Guardian> on a fresh kubuntu 6.10, i insert an usb drive (i tried with several models), it asks me whether i want to open a new window with the content or do something else, i select open new window but it displays nothing
[04:44] <Guardian> and /media is empty
[04:44] <Guardian> any idea please ?
[04:44] <Jucato> BluesKaj: if it still fails in the command line, then it's probably a corrupted archive
[04:44] <Jucato> Guardian: click on the refresh button?
[04:44] <Murchadh> Guardian: Can root see anything in there?
[04:44] <Jucato> Murchadh: http://jucato.org/kde/konq-profiles.html
[04:45] <Murchadh> Jucato: I'm useless, just spent 10 minutes looking for that. ?)
[04:45] <Guardian> nothing shows up when logged as root in /media
[04:46] <mirshafie> hey, what packages do i need to make amarok play mp3s? the damn thing refuses to install from the dialog i get when i want to play mp3s in amarok...
[04:46] <DaSkreech> !away > _yyoman_
[04:46] <Murchadh> Guardian: Gotta find out where it's mounting. It's hardly just /media!
[04:46] <napster> why dosn't my notebook shutdown? any ideas?
[04:46] <Murchadh> Guardian: Type mount
[04:46] <Guardian> well it's hotplug stuff i guess
[04:46] <rcrook> can anyone tell me if it is possible to resize a ext3 partition "on the fly" make it larger not smaller?
[04:46] <Jucato> mirshafie: libxine-extracodecs
[04:46] <Guardian> hmm /dev/sda1 is not mounted
[04:47] <Guardian> i guess it just fails to mount it properly ...
[04:47] <TheGateKeeper> mirshafie, use the xine engine & install libxine-extracodecs
[04:47] <napster> mirshafi: downst it ask you if you want to install MP3 support??
[04:48] <mirshafie> Jucato, TheGateKeeper: strange, i already have it (and i use xine engine). but it still does not work
[04:48] <Murchadh> Guardian: What is said /dev/sda1? External USB HDD? It may be ntfs or fat32.
[04:48] <mirshafie> napster: yes, but when i click that i want to install it automatically nothing happens. (actually, adept started one time, but it didn't do it's thing)
[04:49] <Guardian> it's usb flash drive
[04:49] <Guardian> works great on xubuntu and ubuntu
[04:49] <Guardian> but not in kubuntu
[04:49] <napster> enable sources
[04:49] <BluesKaj> ahh DaSkreech  , I had to cd to the folder (desktop) then do the unrar e command in the terminal ...it seems to be working ...we'll see
[04:49] <TheGateKeeper> mirshafie, idk then because that is all that I had to do, & many other people find the same
[04:50] <mirshafie> TheGateKeeper: idk?
[04:50] <TheGateKeeper> idk = I don't know
[04:50] <Dr_willis> idk what idk means...
[04:50] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:51] <napster> open adapt -->> view-->> manage R. ->>
[04:51] <mirshafie> hehe ok... i'll try something else
[04:52] <TheGateKeeper> mirshafie, I use audacious on gentoo as amarok install a lot of stuff & amarok is a tempremental bastard at times
[04:53] <ForgeAus> ok  again in system settings how do I get peripherals to show up?
[04:55] <mirshafie> TheGateKeeper: yea well, there are many nice music players out there, but i quite like amarok. (also it's qt wich is a big +)
[04:55] <ForgeAus> how about xmms???
[04:55] <ForgeAus> (thats like a winamp-stlye one right? or at least at one time had a common theme that looked like winam)
[04:55] <ForgeAus> p
[04:55] <TheGateKeeper> as far as I know xmms is dying
[04:56] <ForgeAus> yeah prolly is
[04:56] <ForgeAus> and kubuntu's (is it amarok?) builds into Konqueror to extend it :)
[04:57] <BluesKaj> xmms is the default player in Streamtuner, and it works quite well
[04:58] <ForgeAus> whats streamtuner?
[04:58] <j03> 'lo all.
[04:58] <j03> I think its a directory browser.
[04:58] <ForgeAus> oh also does *nix have a music tracker/synth/etc?
[04:59] <BluesKaj> ForgeAus, it's an internet radio stream utility
[04:59] <ForgeAus> sequencer, thats what I waas trying to think of
[04:59] <BluesKaj> kinda cool actually
[04:59] <j03> I'm not sure.
[04:59] <DaSkreech> ForgeAus: A few actually
[04:59] <ForgeAus> (trackers were the old old commodore amiga name for them lol)
[04:59] <Dr_willis> I still have several Amigas :)
[04:59] <ForgeAus> Da, kewl which ones good?
[05:00] <Dr_willis> The Amiga Emulators out now are very very well done.
[05:00] <ForgeAus> Dr, awesome machines in their time... kinda still are, but time's bypassed them
[05:00] <ForgeAus> I agree
[05:00] <ForgeAus> UAE is AWESOME
[05:00] <Dr_willis> Killed by lousey marketing/company screwing up
[05:00] <LjL> dr_willis: emulator"s"? :)
[05:00] <ForgeAus> yeah theres a few others
[05:00] <Dr_willis> theres 2 out i think LjL and some variants on them
[05:00] <ForgeAus> for dos/windows at least
[05:00] <Dr_willis> UAE is the main one i use
[05:01] <ForgeAus> um.. Fellow
[05:01] <LjL> yeah, Fellow... did anybody ever care? :P
[05:01] <ForgeAus> lol LjL used to, once...
[05:01] <Dr_willis> I had a system set up where id login as 'amiga' and it would start up X and have UAE as the 'desktop'
[05:01] <ForgeAus> Fellow was great for a time
[05:01] <ForgeAus> hehe I remember once trying to get shapeshifter (macintosh emulation) running inside UAE..rofl
[05:01] <Dr_willis> I still miss CED, and CanDo, and how the AREXX 'ports' let you connect programs.
[05:02] <ForgeAus> AREXX? amiga Rexx?
[05:02] <LjL> dr_willis: aka Amithlon DIY?
[05:02] <LjL> forgeaus: yes
[05:02] <ForgeAus> I have no idea what CED and CanDo are tho
[05:02] <Dr_willis> Heh - i rember when tracking down a 'mac rom'  was a 'cool thing'
[05:02] <Dr_willis> Ced - text editor. CanDO  - sort of a Hyper Card CLone.
[05:02] <ForgeAus> oh getting the rom is the easy bit rofl
[05:02] <LjL> forgeaus: arexx is the main scripting language on amigaos, most applications support it
[05:03] <dan_jp2> Hello! I can't use usb... And I get this from dmesg [   61.197099]  ohci_hcd 0000:00:01.2: can't setup .   Could anyone help me?
[05:03] <Dr_willis> CanDO went 'high doller' in its last release and got most of the users mad.. went the AmigaVision (i think) route.
[05:03] <LjL> anything that can be scripted can generally be scripted via arexx
[05:03] <ForgeAus> kewl I didn't have an Amiga
[05:03] <ForgeAus> I only emulated a few games
[05:03] <ForgeAus> my cousin had one
[05:03] <ForgeAus> that h e gave to my other cousin
[05:03] <ForgeAus> great machine
[05:03] <Dr_willis> arexx was neat in that the text editor (ced) for example could talk with rexx scripts to my Datatbase program (MFF)  and get/send info.
[05:03] <ForgeAus> plays Battlechess like a charm :) rofl
[05:04] <Dr_willis> BattleChess - a classic
[05:04] <Dr_willis> DungeonMaster - another clasic.
[05:04] <Schuenemann> "/dev/hda4 has been mounted 30 times without being checked, check forced" <--- what does this mean?
[05:04] <ForgeAus> of course PC's play battlechess too
[05:04] <ForgeAus> ProjectX!
[05:04] <Dr_willis> Schuenemann,  the system checks the drives every so often to verify them..
[05:04] <ForgeAus> one game UAE can't play is Street fighter.. the original
[05:04] <Dr_willis> every 30 mounts it seems. :)
[05:04] <ForgeAus> which was quite unique on the Amiga
[05:04] <llutz> Schuenemann: routine check of the filesystem, nothing to worry about
[05:04] <Schuenemann> I don't even know what is at hda4
[05:05] <llutz> Schuenemann: "mount" will show you
[05:05] <circ> check /dev
[05:05] <Dr_willis> we are supposed to know? its your system..
[05:05] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:05] <Schuenemann> seems to be this own partition
[05:06] <Schuenemann> why doesn't kubuntu run on reiserfs?
[05:06] <ForgeAus> in fact Fighting Street for the TG16 (PC Engine) was the closest to arcade perfect port of SF1... till Mame emulated it that is
[05:07] <DaSkreech> Anyone uases gamefu?
[05:07] <ForgeAus> the other one I found quite interesting was the Amstrad CPC port!
[05:07] <DaSkreech> uses
[05:07] <ForgeAus> gamefu?
[05:07] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[05:07] <ForgeAus> um I got some emu-addons for kde
[05:07] <ForgeAus> whats gamefu?
[05:07] <fly_80> ndiswrapper is installed correctly: it says: driver presente, hardware present. Why doesn't it work???
[05:07] <DaSkreech> !gamefu
[05:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gamefu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:07] <DaSkreech> DUmb bot
[05:07] <Schuenemann> "There are differences between boot sector and its backup" <-- How about this message?
[05:07] <Imrahil> does anyone know what happened to the katapult site? thekatapult.net is supposed to be the new one, but it is not working yet and the old one has been down for at last a week
[05:07] <llutz> Schuenemann: doesn't it? reiser is avalable as module, so it should
[05:08] <LjL> schuenemann: i don't know precisely why it happens, but it's happened to a few people including me
[05:08] <LjL> i suppose you have a FAT partition
[05:08] <Schuenemann> llutz: when I booted from the CD, only ext3
[05:08] <ForgeAus> I like Kubuntu so much I might extend my partition!
[05:08] <Schuenemann> I have a FAT at hdb1
[05:08] <akrus> could someone tell me how to add a locale?
[05:08] <DaSkreech> ForgeAus: http://dot.kde.org/1152484104/1152491999/
[05:08] <ForgeAus> ReactOS was considering using ReiserFS as its default FS
[05:08] <akrus> which is not listed in locale -a
[05:08] <Schuenemann> Is reiserfs available to dapper?
[05:09] <Schuenemann> I remember it wasn't there, when I installed
[05:09] <akrus> Schuenemann: additional libraries required
[05:09] <akrus> likely :)
[05:09] <akrus> I've seen it somewhere in APT
[05:09] <LjL> schuenemann: well i can never remember the command to fix that... i have it in my logs, but i'm not at my computer. i think it's fsck -ar, but can't swear on it
[05:09] <ForgeAus> how does Konqueror stack up against firefox 2?
[05:09] <circ> its faster
[05:09] <Schuenemann> akrus: I'm talking about the cd
[05:09] <LjL> schuenemann i also think you can use reiser if you install from the alternate cd, can't swear on that either
[05:10] <circ> but for me anyway, crashes quite a bit on some pages
[05:10] <circ> so id rather stick to firefox
[05:10] <Schuenemann> I don't have that, I downloaded the ISo
[05:10] <akrus> I'm using firefox since it's more configurable
[05:10] <Schuenemann> ISO(
[05:10] <akrus> and Opera as well :)
[05:10] <LjL> konqueror is more than ok for me, but then i visit a quite limited number of sites
[05:10] <Schuenemann> ISO**
[05:10] <LjL> that is, google and wikipedia and the ubuntu wiki mostly .)
[05:10] <ForgeAus> Trillian Astra might have a *nix port!
[05:11] <circ> hmm
[05:11] <circ> opera isnt in packages
[05:11] <Dr_willis> with the right repos it is.  i recall
[05:11] <Schuenemann> who needs opera with firefox around? :p
[05:11] <Dr_willis> !opera
[05:11] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[05:11] <sandbox> Should use w3m browser unless you like looking at graphics
[05:11] <ForgeAus> if trillian had a *nix port I'd pretty much not need Windows at all!
[05:11] <sandbox> !w3m
[05:11] <ForgeAus> except that I'm running from within VMware now rofl!
[05:11] <ubotu> w3m: WWW browsable pager with excellent tables/frames support. In component main, is standard. Version 0.5.1-4ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1036 kB, installed size 1816 kB
[05:12] <LjL> sandbox: and then if you want graphics, what's wrong with links2? ;)
[05:12] <sandbox> :D
[05:12] <ForgeAus> still migrating this image to a real HDD sounds interesting
[05:12] <Schuenemann> LjL: what is in the alternate cd?
[05:12] <LjL> !alternate
[05:12] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[05:12] <Schuenemann> did it say text-mode?
[05:12] <ForgeAus> DreamLinux uses XFcE as its main WM and Opera as its main browser
[05:13] <ForgeAus> so whats planned for KDE?
[05:13] <circ> alternate is good if you dont need all the stuff from ubuntu desktop
[05:13] <Schuenemann> konqueror
[05:13] <circ> like gaim and openoffice etc
[05:13] <Schuenemann> but why isn't reiserfs available from the desktop?
[05:13] <LjL> forgeaus: ...? what does that have to do with kde?
[05:14] <Schuenemann> !reiserfs
[05:14] <ubotu> reiserfs is a journalling file system, in benchmarks it outperforms many others on I/O operations, but they take notoriously long to mount.
[05:14] <LjL> you certainly won't see opera as the default KDE and/or Kubuntu browser anytime soon if that's what you mean :D
[05:14] <ForgeAus> LjL nothing but Opera was in context with the konversation :)
[05:14] <Schuenemann> !ext3
[05:14] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[05:14] <ForgeAus> LjL nah Konqueror is kewl
[05:14] <Schuenemann> isn't reiserfs supposed to be superior?
[05:14] <ForgeAus> between it and FireFox I don't really need another browser
[05:14] <LjL> cool or not cool, i definitely don't think anyone is going to put a proprietary browser as default in a distro such as Kubuntu, not to mention KDE itself
[05:15] <ForgeAus> though I must say Lynx is kinda fun to toy with :)
[05:15] <llutz> Schuenemann: it always depends on your usage
[05:15] <ForgeAus> for nostalgia sake only of course
[05:15] <LjL> schuenemann: depends from the point of view i guess. ext3 is known to be quite reliable
[05:15] <Schuenemann> which means I should stay with ext3?
[05:15] <LjL> *shrug*
[05:16] <llutz> Schuenemann: why would you like to change to reiserfs?
[05:16] <ForgeAus> LjL I wouldn't want to see Opera as that anyway
[05:16] <Schuenemann> llutz: because I THOUGHT is was better
[05:16] <llutz> Schuenemann: define "better" ;)
[05:16] <ForgeAus> whats good about kde 4?
[05:16] <icheyne> haven't opensuse just dumped reiserfs?
[05:16] <LjL> forgeaus: right now, nothing much :)
[05:16] <Schuenemann> safer, faster....
[05:16] <LjL> icheyne: they still support it but use ext3 by default
[05:17] <ForgeAus> LjL whats planned for it thats good then?
[05:17] <LjL> schuenemann: faster, probably, at least for small files.
[05:17] <llutz> Schuenemann: safer? why? faster.. in some purposes maybe
[05:17] <icheyne> ok
[05:17] <llutz> if you like small files, you nee XFS
[05:17] <llutz> need
[05:17] <Schuenemann> more important is if the OS like small files, I believe
[05:17] <LjL> schuenemann: safer, i doubt it. people argue a lot about its safety, but snice there's many people saying it might be /less/ safe than ext, i definitely wouldn't go and say it's safer
[05:18] <Schuenemann> ok
[05:18] <Schuenemann> which takes more hd space?
[05:18] <LjL> reiser i thinks, uses more metadata
[05:18] <LjL> xfs probably takes even more
[05:18] <LjL> but just type their names in google, i'm quite confident you'll find plenty of such comparisons
[05:18] <shenmue> will ubuntu support reiserfs4?
[05:18] <ForgeAus> ext3 is kewl
[05:18] <llutz> in the age of hdds in TB-size, who cares about overhead? ;)
[05:19] <LjL> shenmue: it's not even in the kernel...
[05:19] <ForgeAus> shenmue it can not sure if it does
[05:19] <icheyne> this email slags off reiserfs pretty comprehensively - http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2006-09/msg00542.html
[05:19] <icheyne> and that was before the murder enquiry
[05:19] <Schuenemann> what does kewl mean?
[05:19] <ForgeAus> worst case, you can plug in mounting tools
[05:19] <LjL> cool, i s'pose
[05:19] <ForgeAus> lol its aplay on cool yeah
[05:19] <llutz> what makes a filesystem "cool"?
[05:19] <ForgeAus> sorry, just Forgespeak
[05:20] <LjL> llutz: well, with ext3 my HD reaches and surpasses 50C... perhaps it's that
[05:20] <Schuenemann> llutz: if a filesystem does not suck, then it's cool
[05:20] <ForgeAus> llutz.. well thanx for dispelling the magic of filesystems on me :( lol!
[05:20] <shenmue> LjL: will it be in the kernel one day?
[05:20] <llutz> Schuenemann: no, then it just works :)
[05:20] <ironfroggy_LT> is there anything smaller than mini-USB?
[05:20] <Schuenemann> heh
[05:20] <LjL> shenmue: do i look like a magic sphere? :P
[05:20] <LjL> i guess not anyway, if i have to guess
[05:20] <ForgeAus> ironfroggy?
[05:21] <jerp> kewl is net-speak for cool which means the matter carries a measure of titilation
[05:21] <shenmue> LjL: :)
[05:21] <ironfroggy_LT> ForgeAus: i just got a new phone and there is a port on the bottom that looks exactly like a mini-USB port, but smaller.
[05:21] <ForgeAus> you mean for a linux image?
[05:21] <ironfroggy_LT> what about a linux image?
[05:22] <ForgeAus> smaller? not sure.... the other one I was thinking of is firewire but thats bigger than mini-USB
[05:22] <ironfroggy_LT> o thought you meant me
[05:22] <ForgeAus> I thought you were talkinga bout flashdrives
[05:22] <ironfroggy_LT> how does a firewall have a physical size to be bigger than anything?
[05:22] <ForgeAus> I got VMware in my headspace still
[05:23] <ForgeAus> not firewall firewire
[05:23] <ForgeAus> its a type of connection
[05:23] <ironfroggy_LT> o ok
[05:23] <Schuenemann> LjL: what does that fsck do?
[05:23] <ForgeAus> for certain devices
[05:23] <sivaji> hi
[05:23] <ForgeAus> its like an alternative to USB
[05:23] <LjL> schuenemann: checks and/or repairs a filesystem. anyway, i suggest you wait before typing that command
[05:24] <LjL> when i'm back home, in an hour or so, i'll be able to confirm whether it's the right command to use for that problem
[05:24] <Schuenemann> ok
[05:24] <Schuenemann> I had hardware problems and some times GRUB printed an error
[05:24] <Kwipper> I have a question. I am looking at Adept Manager and it says I have firefox installed. Except one thing.. I don't see any shortcut to the browser anywhere.
[05:24] <sivaji> this new user for linux ple tell me how to download a package
[05:25] <LjL> !software
[05:25] <ubotu> A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages and !Equivalents
[05:25] <jerp> kwipper, you've got to add the menu entry
[05:25] <Schuenemann> Kwipper: not in K > Internet ?
[05:25] <Kwipper> Nope
[05:25] <Kwipper> I do not see it there.
[05:25] <circ> man
[05:25] <circ> konqueror is real annoying with its constant cookie popup warnings
[05:26] <DaSkreech> Turn off cokkie management
[05:26] <jerp> right click on the K symbol on the deskbar and find edit menus
[05:26] <jerp> open Internet and add an enty for Firefox
[05:26] <Kwipper> I don't see an "edit menus" option
[05:26] <Schuenemann> circ: I liked Fx because of the extensions
[05:26] <Kwipper> Ahh I found it
[05:27] <Kwipper> The edit menu thing
[05:27] <ForgeAus> Fx?
[05:27] <Schuenemann> fx = firefox
[05:27] <ForgeAus> ahh IC
[05:27] <ForgeAus> lol is nautilus any good?
[05:27] <Schuenemann> nautilus is for gnome, no?
[05:27] <ForgeAus> yeah
[05:27] <Kwipper> I have the menu editor up
[05:27] <DaSkreech> !schedule
[05:27] <Kwipper> Now what?
[05:27] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Feisty Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule
[05:28] <jerp> file / add
[05:28] <circ> nautilus refreshes slower imo
[05:28] <Schuenemann> Kwipper: you could try typing whereis firefox, in konsole
[05:28] <circ> but atleast it refreshes directories, which i cant figure out how to do with kde
[05:28] <jerp> after having highlighted Internet ofcourse cause that's where the entry goes
[05:28] <Kwipper> Where is Konsole?
[05:28] <ForgeAus> circ theres an icon to reload
[05:29] <ForgeAus> (its called reload insted of refresh)
[05:29] <ForgeAus> konsole is probably under system
[05:29] <circ> ya
[05:29] <circ> but is there a way to autoreload after deleting something in a dir?
[05:29] <Schuenemann> there is an icon to konsole close to K
[05:29] <Kwipper> I got /usr/lib/firefox
[05:29] <ForgeAus> or you could set up a terminal menu :)
[05:30] <Schuenemann> so firefox is there
[05:30] <Schuenemann> right-click desktop > create new > link to application
[05:31] <Kwipper> k
[05:31] <DaSkreech> Kwipper: press Alt+Space and type konsole
[05:31] <Kwipper> I alreayd did that
[05:31] <Kwipper> I got /usr/lib/firefox
[05:31] <Kwipper> in konsole
[05:33] <Kwipper> Any ideas?
[05:33] <Schuenemann> did you try what I said?
[05:33] <jerp> hint .............. /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin
[05:34] <Kwipper> Sch: Yes
[05:34] <Kwipper> I am in the edit menu
[05:34] <Kwipper> What do I do next?
[05:34] <Timmmm> Damn linux sucks sometimes. I was trying to install this: http://www.ribbonsoft.com/vec2web_downloads.html ... Try doing that without knowing tons of C++/shell-foo. Eventually resorted to downloading the windows binary and running it with wine! Grrr.
[05:34] <Schuenemann> edit?
[05:34] <Schuenemann> I said this: right-click desktop > create new > link to application
[05:34] <Schuenemann> :p
[05:35] <vado> Salut
[05:36] <Kwipper> Sch: Okay. I got the link to application thing open
[05:36] <Kwipper> Sch: Now what?
[05:37] <ShnaCHay> I have Kubuntu linux installed and I want to be able to mount my Windows partition so as to copy a file from it.
[05:38] <jerp> here's something to enter......... /usr/bin/firefox
[05:38] <Schuenemann> Kwipper: click application, command
[05:38] <Schuenemann> and enter that thing jerp said
[05:39] <Kwipper> KDEInit could not launch "/usr/bin/firefox"
[05:40] <Kwipper> That is what I get when I click on the icon
[05:40] <Schuenemann> you said it was /usr/lib/firefox I believe
[05:40] <jerp> kwipper, the entry in my menu editor says ... firefox %u
[05:41] <Dr_willis> which firefox    gives me -->  /usr/bin/firefox
[05:41] <Dr_willis> !ntfs
[05:41] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[05:41] <Dr_willis> Defacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[05:41] <Kwipper> Geeez. Don't these applications have some executable extention that lets them know they are executables?
[05:41] <ShnaCHay> how do I mount my Windows NTFS drives in Kubuntu ?
[05:41] <Kwipper> Like firefox.exe or something?
[05:41] <DaSkreech> !mount
[05:41] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[05:41] <Kwipper> It would make the executables much easier to find.
[05:41] <jerp> hey, it's Linux
[05:42] <Dr_willis> ShnaCHay,  i though mine showed up in my 'media:'  location.. enter 'media:' in konqueror and see
[05:42] <Dr_willis> Kwipper,  your making statements.. and you dont know the fundamentals...
[05:42] <Dr_willis> if the executable bit is set.. its an executable file.. no need for a .exe at all
[05:43] <Dr_willis> my firefox icon - has for its 'executable' the command -->   firefox %u
[05:44] <ShnaCHay> Dr_willis: The windows drives show in 'media' by default?
[05:44] <Dr_willis> ShnaCHay,  theres /media/ and then theres  media:/
[05:44] <Dr_willis> there cn be some issues with using 'media:/
[05:45] <Dr_willis> depending on the programs you are using. which is why the 'remote places' icon i have goes to media/
[05:45] <Dr_willis> oops /media
[05:45] <Dr_willis> is the 'system menu' in the panels by default? i forget if i added it there or not.
[05:46] <Kwipper> Nevermind
[05:46] <Kwipper> I think I found the problem.
[05:46] <jerp> there is system settings in the menu
[05:46] <ShnaCHay> Dr_willis: What, exactly, do I have to download to enable NTFS support?
[05:47] <Kwipper> the package mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb package was installed... which I think was the language package and not the actual browser.
[05:47] <Dr_willis> ShnaCHay,  to read a ntfs drive - you shoudl be able to just mount the thing.. OR it should be showing up allready in ' media:
[05:47] <Kwipper> So I installed the mozilla-firefox package and it now shows up.
[05:47] <Dr_willis> media:\  is showing my windows drives
[05:47] <ForgeAus> has KDE got an answer to The GIMP?
[05:47] <jerp> kwipper, so you're a happy camper
[05:47] <ForgeAus> or is it part of Koffice?
[05:47] <ShnaCHay> let me have a look
[05:48] <Kwipper> Yep
[05:48] <Kwipper> I am
[05:48] <Kwipper> Thanks
[05:49] <jerp> no problem, I'm a newb and I'm scratchy
[05:49] <DaSkreech> What dod I do if a Live CD kernel panics?
[05:49] <cloakable> DaSkreech: Reboot :P
[05:49] <DaSkreech> I mean kernel panics on startup
[05:50] <jerp> go into grub and find a different kernel to boot?
[05:51] <jerp> see if there's a kernel that could be updated?
[05:51] <DaSkreech> The Live CD ships with multiple kernels?
[05:51] <DaSkreech> Cool :)
[05:51] <malcolm> quit good night
[05:52] <DaSkreech> Nigh malcolm
[06:00] <parigigi> hi to all
[06:00] <_kuja_> hello
[06:01] <parigigi> Is there anyone who has a couple of minutes?
[06:01] <_kuja_> I do
[06:02] <parigigi> thanks. I have a problem. I tried to post my question on several forums, but I didn't have an answer...
[06:02] <_kuja_> Did you try ubuntuforums? Positively massive forum ...
[06:03] <_kuja_> Anyhow, out with the question :D
[06:04] <parigigi> I am a kubuntu 6.10 user and when I try to start gnome applications, like Dia or Gnometris a gray window appears, but the program starts after 2-3 minutes...
[06:04] <_kuja_> Ouch, I've not had any problems like that....
[06:05] <_kuja_> I'll see if I can reproduce it
[06:05] <circ> i try to avoid gtk apps in kde
[06:05] <parigigi> I don't think that the problem is related to an incorrect installation of gtk+ because Gimp works correctly and I installed the programs with synaptic, and I hope that it resolved the depedencies automatically
[06:07] <rizwaan> Library files for "kcm_kicker.la" not found in paths.
[06:08] <rizwaan> which deb has "kcm_kicker.la"
[06:08] <_kuja_> what was the name of the package to get gnometris, parigigi?
[06:08] <parigigi> just a second...
[06:09] <karmikaze> anyone here using a vaio sz??
[06:09] <parigigi> the package is gnome-games
[06:09] <_kuja_> rizwaan, do you have the kde-devel package installed?
[06:09] <rizwaan> 1 sec
[06:09] <parigigi> but I doesn't matter if a game doesn't work... my problem is that I need Dia
[06:10] <_kuja_> or at least kdebase-dev ....
[06:10] <rizwaan> no
[06:10] <rizwaan> i messed up my kicker files.. by installing kbfx old .deb
[06:10] <_kuja_> That's likely the problem, seeing as it sounds like you're trying to compile something
[06:11] <_kuja_> uninstall the kbfx deb, do an apt-get --reinstall install kdebase
[06:11] <_kuja_> I guess
[06:11] <rizwaan> i'll try
[06:11] <crube> Is there a way to assign shortcut keys to change the desktop by numer. So that i could have Shift + 1/2/3/4 to change the desktop to dekstop number 1/2/3/4?
[06:12] <crube> all I found was desktop up/down options
[06:12] <_kuja_> parigigi, I'll do it then instead
[06:12] <llutz> crube: alt-1..4
[06:13] <circ> yes
[06:13] <marianka> no
[06:13] <crube> No that doesn't do anything but change from a konversation tab to another, and it does nothing on the desktop or anywhere else.
[06:13] <circ> control center -> regional access -> keyboard shortcuts
[06:14] <circ> then pick shortcut schemes
[06:14] <circ> and look for switch to desktop #
[06:14] <_kuja_> parigigi, dia came right up for me, no problem at all.
[06:14] <crube> circ ok found it now thanks. I didn't look at the Shortcut sequences tab at all. Thanks
[06:14] <_kuja_> parigigi, try running it from konsole and see if it gives you any error messages
[06:16] <parigigi> I have an error message: but it' s the same I have when I start a kde application, and those work perfectly
[06:17] <parigigi> anyhow:
[06:17] <parigigi> stranger@alvaro:~$ dia &
[06:17] <parigigi> [1]  5779
[06:17] <parigigi> stranger@alvaro:~$ X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[06:17] <parigigi>   Major opcode:  144
[06:17] <parigigi>   Minor opcode:  3
[06:17] <parigigi>   Resource id:  0x0
[06:17] <parigigi> Failed to open device
[06:17] <parigigi> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[06:17] <parigigi>   Major opcode:  144
[06:17] <parigigi>   Minor opcode:  3
[06:17] <parigigi>   Resource id:  0x0
[06:17] <parigigi> Failed to open device
[06:17] <eilker> !lamp
[06:17] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:19] <rizwaan> well, it was kicker kickoff which deleted the kcm_kicker.la after removal
[06:20] <Hawkwind> !bad device | parigigi
[06:20] <ubotu> parigigi: If you are receiving an error similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 then please visit this page: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.0
[06:20] <_kuja_> rizwaan: try sudo apt-get --reinstall install kcontrol
[06:21] <rizwaan> ok
[06:22] <rizwaan> kuja, thanks, fixed..
[06:22] <rizwaan> i reinstalled kcontrol and kicker
[06:22] <_kuja_> You're welcome
[06:23] <_kuja_> kcm_kicker.la is provided by kcontrol ....... to figure out what package a file is a part of do this: dpkg -S filename (optionally you can include the entire path of the filename)
[06:23] <parigigi> ubotu: I've already tried to comment out those sections, but server X doesn't start...
[06:23] <_kuja_> (or only a portion of the filename)
[06:23] <_kuja_> after commenting out those three sections, there are 3 more lines you have to comment out
[06:23] <Schuenemann> I get those errors too
[06:23] <rizwaan> wow, thanks for dpkg -S
[06:24] <Imrahil> anyone know what happened to the katapult website at thekatapult.net? it should have moved from thekatapult.org.uk
[06:24] <hudsy> how to install msn in kubuntu???????
[06:24] <Schuenemann> http://amsn.sourceforge.net is an option
[06:24] <_kuja_> apt-get install amsn?
[06:24] <rizwaan> apt-get install amsn
[06:24] <rizwaan> yes
[06:24] <hudsy> i cant do it
[06:24] <Imrahil> kmess
[06:25] <rizwaan> sudo apt-get install amsn
[06:25] <_kuja_> Kopete works well too
[06:25] <hudsy> i cant do it
[06:25] <Schuenemann> kopete sucks :)
[06:25] <Realistic_Dragon> gaim is also nice
[06:25] <hudsy> it says theres no amsn
[06:25] <hudsy> ok
[06:25] <hudsy> thenks
[06:25] <Realistic_Dragon> gaim and kopete share the same IM libraries i think
[06:25] <Imrahil> hudsy: try also, sudo apt-get install kmess
[06:25] <Schuenemann> you need to add repositories
[06:25] <ForgeAus> kopete is good but the yahoo in it needs to have multiple yahoo idents! lol
[06:25] <_kuja_> !universe | hudsy
[06:25] <ubotu> hudsy: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:25] <_kuja_> amsn is in universe
[06:26] <Schuenemann> since I stopped using ICQ, I use amsn now
[06:26] <rizwaan> kuja i can't remove kdegames..
[06:26] <rizwaan> it is also removing whole kde
[06:26] <_kuja_> perhaps you installed kdegames with aptitude, and when you did it pulled in kde?
[06:26] <ForgeAus> universe?
[06:27] <rizwaan> i did "apt-get install kde"
[06:27] <rizwaan> now i want to remove noatun and kdegames
[06:27] <_kuja_> kdegames is just a metapackage anyway, removing it won't remove anything
[06:28] <_kuja_> if you really want to remove it, do dpkg -r kdegames, but keep in mind it won't free up any space, or unclutter your menus either.
[06:28] <summerizcrazy> Hello everyone! Is there a place where I can check whether my hardware is supported "from the box" by kubuntu 6.10 ?
[06:28] <rizwaan> oh..
[06:29] <_kuja_> summerizcrazy, there might be, but if so I don't know where. What hardware do you have?
[06:29] <jackster> Why would it be that I can burn CDs using my Liteon CD/DVD RW drive, but I can't read them?
[06:29] <_kuja_> jackster, odd, do other computers read t he disks without problem?
[06:29] <pichalsi> hi
[06:29] <rizwaan> kuja, please try "dpkg -r --simulate kdegames kde-amusements"
[06:30] <jackster> _kuja_: I'll go check that now
[06:30] <Schuenemann> Hawkwind: how can I ensure what to comment?
[06:30] <rizwaan> i can't remove them..
[06:30] <pichalsi> can someone help me how to upgrade all packages except glib?
[06:30] <_kuja_> But I don't want to remove kdegames ...
[06:30] <pichalsi> or generally dont upgrade one of the packages?
[06:30] <rizwaan> observe the "--simulate"
[06:30] <_kuja_> oh, I get it
[06:30] <Schuenemann> summerizcrazy: why don't you use the livecd to check?
[06:30] <jackster> _kuja_: it reads fine in my other DVD drive on the same bozx
[06:30] <summerizcrazy> a HP Pavilion dv5140eu laptop - AND Turion 64, ATI XPRESS 200, boradcom wifi
[06:31] <jackster> it burns fine using one drive, but it doesnt read in that drive, but it reads fine in the other drive
[06:31] <_kuja_> jackster: weird, it's probably a problem with the drive.
[06:31] <jackster> (no CDs or DVDs seem to be readable on the burner, but it works fine in Windows)
[06:31] <Sanne> summerizcrazy: I'll get you a few links I used when I built my system this summer, hold on.
[06:31] <summerizcrazy> I was told that there are some issues regarding the broadcom support and the openGL for this card
[06:31] <_kuja_> I've got 3 or 4 different burners, plus 2 or 3 different readers, and each one behaves a bit different, some will read some disks and some won't. It's really weird when a drive can't read the disk it itself burned though.
[06:31] <Sanne> summerizcrazy: here are three for a start: http://www.linux-drivers.org/ http://www.leenooks.com/ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[06:32] <_kuja_> summeriscrazy: wifi is crazy stuff, take a look at:
[06:32] <_kuja_> !wifi
[06:32] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:32] <_kuja_> ATI cards are notoriously horrible when it comes to linux support
[06:32] <summerizcrazy> Thank You very much :) !
[06:33] <Realistic_Dragon> the ATI card in my powerbook wasnt too bad _kuja_... surprised me, especially on a PPC machine :P
[06:33] <_kuja_> You would have been much better off with an nvidia card, or maybe even an intel
[06:33] <summerizcrazy> yes i was unable to get it running with kubuntu 6.06 .. the opengl i mean
[06:33] <_kuja_> Realistic_Dragon, some cards are better supported than others, which makes ATIs situation even more of a mess.
[06:33] <Realistic_Dragon> thats definatly true
[06:34] <Realistic_Dragon> i got lucky and the OSS drivers work or id be out of luck
[06:34] <Realistic_Dragon> shame as i want a new macbook but those have newer ATI cards in and im not sure if itll work :(
[06:34] <_kuja_> Realistic_Dragon: I'd check with some other guinnea ... erm, person, before spending your money.
[06:35] <Realistic_Dragon> heh
[06:35] <Realistic_Dragon> im no fan of OS X at all, it wasnt a good linux replacement when i got my powerbook and in the meantime its been left well behind on the usability front :/
[06:35] <Realistic_Dragon> so im not buying one until i check all the hardware out :)
[06:36] <_kuja_> I wish I had the money to get myself a lappy....... but alas, I've dumped all my money into this desktop :D
[06:36] <Realistic_Dragon> most laptops are a pain in the backside
[06:37] <Realistic_Dragon> right now the only ones id consider are a new macbook pro on the high end or a cheap $600 hp on the low end
[06:37] <lm_> hey can anyone tell me why the update funkction for firefox is greyed out in ubuntu/kubuntu?
[06:37] <_kuja_> I've guaged that much. The biggest thing I'm worried about would most definitely be wireless. Wireless driver problems seem to be abound.
[06:37] <Realistic_Dragon> those HPs are really solidly built, only issue is the 124*768 resolution
[06:37] <lm_> the bugfix for the password f***up is out, and the update manager doesnt have it
[06:38] <Realistic_Dragon> _kuja_: broadcom cards now arent quite as sucky as they used to be, theres a howto on my website :o works with wpa and suspends properly too
[06:38] <Realistic_Dragon> both the HPs and the macs use broadcom chipsets
[06:38] <_kuja_> Oh well, doesn't much matter, I'm financed to my limit and I've no money to get myself a laptop with :(
[06:38] <mjugendrat> hallo
[06:38] <_kuja_> hello
[06:39] <mjugendrat> deutsch ?
[06:39] <Dr_willis> lm_,  i would guess -  that you should use the apt-get/apt/adept system to update firefox. since its a system wide installed program. not on a per user basis
[06:39] <_kuja_> !de
[06:39] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:39] <lm_> Dr_willis: i just ran it and as far as i know my system is completely updated
[06:39] <mjugendrat> danke
[06:40] <lm_> Dr_willis: how far behind are the repositories?
[06:40] <lm_> in terms of update?
[06:40] <doudoo> hello all
[06:40] <_kuja_> hello
[06:40] <doudoo> need some help please
[06:41] <doudoo> i wanted ton install gpar2 yesterday...
[06:41] <Dr_willis> lm_,  if theres not some security related update..  the packages dont normally get updates.
[06:41] <doudoo> i tryed to do it with adept
[06:41] <_kuja_> The repos are frozen as of october, nothing but the occasional security fix will trickle in, maybe some updates depending on what the updates are.
[06:42] <parigigi> _kuja_ : I found the other three lines :-) Now I restart the machine and try...
[06:42] <Realistic_Dragon> unless you have backports enabled of course
[06:42] <mauro__> _kuja_: do you know why theya re frozen ?
[06:42] <doudoo> but now everey update crash..
[06:42] <Dr_willis> they are frozen because thats how ubuntu works. ;)
[06:42] <_kuja_> No major updates are coming in, this is pretty much how edgy is going to be
[06:42] <Realistic_Dragon> mauro__: because 6.10 is now a release version
[06:42] <mauro__> oh
[06:42] <Realistic_Dragon> (k)ubuntu releases a stable version then starts on the new version :)
[06:42] <lm_> kuja: Dr_willis: the firefox update is kinda big... something about the password manager in both IE and firefox giving away your password with a simpel html command or something
[06:42] <mauro__> hold on
[06:42] <soulrider> thats better :P
[06:43] <Realistic_Dragon> soulrider: you can turn on the backports repo if you want new stuff, but im not sure of the criteria for things being added to backports
[06:43] <soulrider> lm_: whats why i use Opera :P
[06:43] <soulrider> Realistic_Dragon: i think its enabled already
[06:43] <Willtre> What's the KDE version of gedit?  I'm switching from Ubuntu to Kubuntu (Edgy) and I need to edit my xorg.conf for it to boot up properly and change my driver to vesa.
[06:43] <lm_> Dr_willis: well anyway.... any idea on how i can install another copy of firefox then?
[06:43] <soulrider> Willtre: Kate
[06:43] <Dr_willis> lm_,  if youa re that paranoid about it - you could go download/use the latest firefox  by isntalling it to your users home dir
[06:43] <lm_> k
[06:44] <Dr_willis> lm_,  or using that klick stuff.
[06:44] <Willtre> soulrider: Thanks, see you on Kubuntu : ).
[06:44] <lm_> *ok
[06:44] <Dr_willis> or autopackage, or other thangs..
[06:44] <soulrider> :)
[06:44] <_kuja_> ubuntu development process = sync with debian, updates and development work go on for about 3-4 months, freeze updates, then work on fixing bugs, or something like that.
[06:44] <soulrider> _kuja_: interesting....
[06:44] <_kuja_> perhaps I should have said 3-5 months
[06:44] <lm_> _kuja_: so when will the repos get an update...when the next ubuntu gets out?
[06:44] <soulrider> does debian come with a graphic enviroment already installed?
[06:44] <Sanne> Willtre: aside from Kate there's also Kwrite, a simpler text editor.
[06:45] <_kuja_> soulrider_: debian gives you a text environment, though you can choose a gui if you want to in the installer
[06:45] <soulrider> _kuja_: ahh allright
[06:45] <soulrider> id like to try debian someday
[06:46] <soulrider> tried to get gentoo up and running... but failed
[06:46] <soulrider> well, my network card refused to work, so its like i failed
[06:46] <_kuja_> lm_: so yes, feisty is getting all the updates now, there won't really be any more updates for edgy, however, feisty is in development/alpha/unstable phase.
[06:46] <akrus> can I get some wine support here? :)
[06:47] <parigigi> mmh... the error disappeared, but the problem remains
[06:47] <soulrider> feisty is comming in march right ?
[06:47] <soulrider> !schedule
[06:47] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Feisty Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule
[06:47] <parigigi> :-(
[06:47] <_kuja_> yup
[06:47] <akrus> Feisty <3
[06:47] <akrus> works okay :)
[06:47] <soulrider> damn, i dont know why
[06:47] <soulrider> after a while of being online
[06:47] <akrus> with newest packages :)
[06:47] <soulrider> some of my apps simply acts as if i were offline
[06:47] <akrus> Delphi 7 works under Wine lol
[06:47] <soulrider> its really annoying
[06:47] <_kuja_> parigigi, I've no idea what the problem could be ... I coudln't reproduce it myself or I'd have a better shot at helping you.
[06:47] <soulrider> i have to reconnect
[06:48] <_kuja_> akrus: agreed, they haven't done anything to break it yet ...
[06:48] <lm_> o btw... can anyone here tell me how to update my java? ife kinda tried everyway, but my java --version tells me always that i have version 1.4.2
[06:48] <_kuja_> lm_ what version of java do you want?
[06:48] <_kuja_> perhaps sun java 1.5 or 1.6?
[06:48] <lm_> 1.5.0 at least
[06:48] <akrus> so well
[06:48] <soulrider> whats a herd cd ?
[06:49] <akrus> is it possible to set Virtual Wine Desktop only for one application?
[06:49] <_kuja_> You can get 1.5 from the repos, it's in multiverse as the sun-java5-jre/jdk packages.
[06:49] <_kuja_> 1.6 can be downloaded from the sun website.
[06:49] <lm_> _kuja_: ok ill try it thanks :)
[06:49] <soulrider> 1,6 is beta i believe
[06:49] <_kuja_> no
[06:49] <_kuja_> It's not.
[06:49] <soulrider> :O
[06:49] <soulrider> final ?
[06:50] <_kuja_> Yeah
[06:50] <akrus> yep
[06:50] <_kuja_> released a week or two ago.
[06:50] <akrus> it's 6.0
[06:50] <akrus> not 1.6 :)
[06:50] <soulrider> ohh
[06:50] <soulrider> akrus: its the same actually
[06:50] <akrus> it is
[06:50] <akrus> but 6.0 is not 1.6 :)
[06:50] <soulrider> yes :P
[06:50] <_kuja_> kuja@terra:~$ java -version
[06:50] <_kuja_> java version "1.6.0"
[06:50] <_kuja_> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-b105)
[06:50] <_kuja_> Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 1.6.0-b105, mixed mode)
[06:51] <soulrider> they have to update it int he repos....
[06:51] <akrus> yes, but for Windows it's 6.0 xD
[06:51] <soulrider> akrus: its the same
[06:51] <_kuja_> It's the same thing!
[06:51] <soulrider> they give it both names
[06:51] <akrus> >_<
[06:52] <_kuja_> It's kinda like this, java 1.0 was java 1 platform, java 1.2 1.3 and 1.4 were the java 2 platform, java 1.5 is the java 5 platform, java 1.6 is the java 6 platform. It makes no sense, I know. I have no idea why they did it.
[06:52] <Willtre> Alright, I can't Kate since it can't connect to X-Server, and that's the reason why I'm trying to edit my xorg.conf!  You see, to launch the desktop environment I need to change from ati to vesa drivers in my xorg.conf.  Are there any other commandline text editing tools that might not call on XServer?
[06:53] <Willtre> Gedit didn't which is why I was able to run ubuntu.
[06:53] <_kuja_> villtre: nano, vim
[06:53] <Willtre> _kuja_: Alright, I'll try nano and vim thanks : ).  I'm not at all expierienced with KDE so hopefully I'm not to much of a bother.
[06:55] <mirshafie> i want to remove a LD_LIBRARY_PATH to a program that doesn't work. how can i do that?
[06:56] <_yyoman_> how do I turn the away message off in Konversation?
[06:58] <_kuja_> mirshafie, hmm
[06:58] <_kuja_> Not sure
[06:58] <Sanne> mirshafie: depends on how it is set. If it is set in a start script, you could change it there.
[06:58] <_kuja_> That's probably the best way ...
[07:00] <mirshafie> Sanne, _kuja_: ok. Sorry if it's a stupid question, but where would it be located if it's a start script?
[07:00] <_kuja_> /usr/bin/programname is usually a symlink to it
[07:00] <_kuja_> or /usr/local/bin/programname
[07:00] <Sanne> mirshafie: depends on the program, you can look in the program folder if it is installed manually, or in /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin
[07:01] <Sanne> mirshafie: what program is it?
[07:01] <mirshafie> well i know where it's installed - my home folder (yes, i put the whole thing there).
[07:01] <_kuja_> Hmm, the programs name, or the programs name.sh, look for a file like that
[07:01] <mirshafie> so, then what, i need to remove it all or just some link?
[07:02] <Sanne> mirshafie: how are you supposed to start it?
[07:02] <parigigi> _kuja_ : thanks a lot anyhow... I'll try to ask someone else. Have a good day
[07:02] <_kuja_> You need to edit a line in the startup script, if there is one, else, it's probably not a library path problem, or maybe it is and you need to create a startup script that sets the ld_library_path
[07:02] <_kuja_> You too parigigi
[07:02] <parigigi> \quit
[07:02] <parigigi> mmh
[07:03] <mirshafie> Sanne: it's a script called Julius in ~/.julius/bin/Julius
[07:03] <mirshafie> but it doesn't work
[07:03] <Sanne> mirshafie: can you open it in a text editor?
[07:04] <mirshafie> Sanne: no, it's a binary
[07:04] <Sanne> mirshafie: ok, you have two options
[07:04] <_kuja_> Then, if it truely is a library path problem, you might need to create a startup script for it
[07:04] <_kuja_> One that sets the ld_library_path before launching the real binary
[07:04] <_kuja_> As for the second option, ask Sanne
[07:05] <Sanne> mirshafie: quick one: set the library path in a terminal and start Julius fron there afterwards, or two: as _kuja_  said :)
[07:05] <Cuddles_in_KY> help. i just had a major system crash, and after rebooting, everything in my home directory that wasn't hidden is -gone-. any way to recover it?
[07:05] <mirshafie> _kuja_: well, i'm not sure i want to run it at all. the reason i want to change the library path is because X says it's faulty whenever i login to kde
[07:05] <Sanne> _kuja_: nice teamwork ;)
[07:05] <_kuja_> :D
[07:06] <_kuja_> Cuddles_in_KY, take a look in /lost+found and hope for the best
[07:06] <Cuddles_in_KY> kuja, did that. no joy
[07:06] <Cuddles_in_KY> all . files are still there, but everything else is gone
[07:07] <_kuja_> Sounds like something majorly ugly happened ...I hope you had backups
[07:07] <Cuddles_in_KY> some, but not all... any way to recover the missing files/
[07:07] <_kuja_> If it's an ext2/3 partition, try running e2fsck
[07:08] <_kuja_> As for this crash, any idea what happened?
[07:08] <mirshafie> Sanne, _kuja_: i have no idea how to set library paths :) and all i want is to get rid of the X warning dialog, so it doesn't matter to me if i can actually start Julius afterwards
[07:09] <_kuja_> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/path/to/libraries
[07:09] <Sanne> mirshafie: I think you lost us a bit here... what exact warning do you get?
[07:09] <lm_> allright..... i just installed java 1.5.10 into /usr/java .... but when i run java --version it STILL tells me that i run 1.4.2... do i hyave to make a link or something, or what am i doing wrong?
[07:10] <lm_> *have
[07:10] <_kuja_> lm_
[07:10] <_kuja_> the easiest way to install 1.5 would have been to install it using ubuntu's repositories, but seeing as you've already downloaded/installed it, I'll tell you what to do
[07:10] <Dr_willis> gotta love doing things the hard way. :)
[07:11] <_kuja_> do you only need the runtime environment, or do you need access to the JDK stuff too(javac,, appletviewer, etc)
[07:11] <lm_> the best wy to learn about this goddamn linux :D
[07:11] <lm_> *way
[07:11] <Dr_willis> !java
[07:11] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[07:11] <Sanne> lm_: aside tip: if you installed manually, it would have been better into /usr/local/java, because those folders aren't geverned by the package manager.
[07:11] <_kuja_> ** or /usr/lib/jvm
[07:11] <_kuja_> which is where all you other jvm's are installed
[07:12] <lm_> _kuja_: i need it to run frostwire... ive read on the linuxquestions forums, that it needs higher java version than i have
[07:12] <_kuja_> also where sun-java5-jre would have installed to
[07:12] <_kuja_> lm_
[07:12] <_kuja_> one sec, I'm going to explain it to you
[07:12] <Sanne> _kuja_: I disagree, /usr/lib is package manager stuff. I like to keep those things seperate.
[07:12] <mirshafie> Sanne: after login with kdm, i get one of those special X warnings that usually just come up when something is seriously wrong. :D you might have seen them, they've got an ugly font and rounded buttons for example (they're not part of kde as for what i understand). that message tells me the LD_LIBRARY_PATH for some binary in ~/.julius does not work. i remember the script i used to install julius said something about adding a library
[07:12] <mirshafie> path
[07:12] <_kuja_> Bah, I like keeping things all in one place, besides, with java, to remove all you have to do is remove one folder, not so bad
[07:13] <_kuja_> if it installed it like a mess like most things do, then I'd agree with you
[07:13] <Sanne> mirshafie: I don't know those messages. What you tell me makes me think that Julius attempts to get started when you start KDE? If so, maybe you can disable it somehow?
[07:14] <Sanne> _kuja_: It's a matter of preference, I think. As long as you remember what you did to your system manually in times of upgrades and the like, all is well :)
[07:14] <mirshafie> Sanne: yea, seems like it (and odd to, because it's just supposed to be a normal app). btw, this kind of messages come up before KDE has started to load. i've got a similar one once before when i butchered my home folder :)
[07:15] <_kuja_> sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/java/bin/java java /usr/bin/java 10
[07:15] <_kuja_> sudo update-alternatives --set java /usr/java/bin/java
[07:15] <_kuja_> lm_
[07:15] <_kuja_> assuming the path to the java binary is /usr/java/bin/java
[07:15] <mjugendrat> hi
[07:15] <lm_> alllll riiight ill try them.. thanks _kuja_
[07:16] <mjugendrat> i such the code for make a ander display
[07:16] <mjugendrat> ...
[07:17] <mirshafie> well, i'll try some of the things you mentioned. thanks, _kuja_ and Sanne
[07:17] <Sanne> mirshafie: the underlying reason I suspect is, that Julius needs to know about the path it is in for it's libraries. So if you ever get to find out how it is started, you can try to add: 'export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/.julius or maybe /home/.julius/lib or wherever the libs are.
[07:17] <No1Viking> I want to update BIOS in my computer and need to make a startdisk for it. How do I do that?
[07:17] <_kuja_> Sanne: why would the home folder be hidden?
[07:18] <Sanne> _kuja_: because mirshafie said so somewhere above ;)
[07:18] <_kuja_> ah
[07:18] <xenol> DaSkreech yo
[07:18] <Sanne> _kuja_: but it seems that's a typo, eh? Didn't think, thanks.
[07:18] <xenol> !OSS
[07:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about OSS - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:19] <mirshafie> Sanne: allright, sounds promising. i'll try that. thanks :)
[07:19] <Willtre> alright I'm on the Kubuntu Live CD
[07:19] <Sanne> mirshafie: you're welcome :)
[07:19] <Willtre> had to killall kdm and then kdm to get on  But now, my installer is stuck at 4% on "running gnome32_power_manager"
[07:19] <_kuja_> strange
[07:20] <_kuja_> What exactly was the problem you were having, in the broader sense, willtre?
[07:20] <lm_> hey _kuja_ ... it tells me "No such directory"
[07:20] <lm_> ... im kinda lost right now
[07:21] <_kuja_> lm_, well, one second
[07:21] <Willtre> _kuja_: Well, atfirst the CD wouldn't run at all and just crash, But then all I had to do to get to my kde desktop was change to vesa drivers and reboot.  But now my Kubuntu installer isn't moving at all and it's at 4% running gnome power manager
[07:21] <lm_> cause the directory exist
[07:21] <Willtre> I'm thinking I'll just reboot the liveCD and restart the installer
[07:21] <_kuja_> lm_
[07:21] <_kuja_> !pastebin | lm_
[07:21] <ubotu> lm_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:21] <_kuja_> do this: ls -lR /usr/java
[07:22] <Willtre> Restarting live CD now
[07:24] <karmikaze> !wpa
[07:24] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:24] <yelonek> !pl
[07:24] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[07:25] <fribuntu> Hi all!
[07:25] <karmikaze> hi you!
[07:26] <fribuntu> I had a strange message from fsck today during bootup. "fsck died with exit status 1". According to the documentation this means it found errors but corrected them. Is there any way to find out exactly which errors it found? Is there a logfile for fsck somewhere? I can't find it uder /var/log ...
[07:26] <karmikaze> hrm
[07:26] <karmikaze> locate fsck
[07:26] <karmikaze> locate fsck | grep log
[07:26] <karmikaze> maybe that will turn something up
[07:26] <_kuja_> fribuntu, oddly enough, I get that message a lot
[07:27] <lm_> _kuja_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38132/
[07:27] <_kuja_> ever since my computer got shut off in a sudden power outage
[07:27] <fribuntu> _kuja_: I see it as a bad sign ... maybe my disk is about to die?
[07:27] <fribuntu> karmikaze: Found it. Thanks! (should have known that myself :)
[07:27] <karmikaze> hrmm was WPA supported in dapper??
[07:27] <karmikaze> :)
[07:27] <karmikaze> np
[07:27] <_kuja_> fribuntu, unless something out of the ordinary happened to cause it, I woudln't dismiss the possibility, what fs are you using?
[07:27] <lm_> jesus.... even when i do my "java --versione" it now tells me that "No such file or directory"...
[07:27] <fribuntu> _kuja_: ext3
[07:28] <_kuja_> hod old is your disk, and what brand is it?
[07:28] <fribuntu> _kuja_: about a year and it is a maxtor.
[07:28] <mjugendrat> bye
[07:29] <_kuja_> Well, I certainly wouldn't dismiss the possibility of it dying, back up your data, otherwise you may find yourself very, very disappointed and without your data within about a year.
[07:29] <fribuntu> _kuja_: I calculate a hdd lifetime of three years. I am not on 24/7.
[07:29] <_kuja_> A lot of the new maxtor drives are dying.
[07:29] <fribuntu> _kuja_: Damn. I switched from Seagate over to Maxtor because I had frequent problems with Seagate before.
[07:29] <doudoo> somebody can help me with a wrong install of gpar2 ???
[07:30] <_kuja_> My current seagates seem to be doing well ..... barracuda 250gb, I've got two of them.
[07:30] <fribuntu> _kuja_: They just don't build quality drives any more. Better to change them routinely once a year now.
[07:30] <fribuntu> doudoo: Can you elaborate on the nature of that "wrong install"?
[07:31] <doudoo> oki i'm french but i'll try too
[07:31] <lm_> _kuja_: uploaded the file...what now?
[07:31] <fribuntu> _kuja_: Well, maybe it is just me always getting the faulty drives of any brand. So you can have good experiences :)
[07:31] <doudoo> so yesterday i wanted to install gpar2
[07:31] <_kuja_> Iv'e not heard of many problems with WD drives, and seagates have a decent track record l ately. Maxtor h as been bought out by Seagate
[07:31] <doudoo> but the install failed
[07:31] <DaSkreech> xenol: Yup?
[07:31] <doudoo> and today i wanted to install the new beryl-svn
[07:32] <doudoo> but when i type my cmd
[07:32] <xenol> DaSkreech i pm u got a discussion for a long time :/
[07:32] <_kuja_> lm_ I'm looking at it now
[07:32] <doudoo> it return that he couldnt because of a probleme with gpar2
[07:32] <lm_> _kuja_: i really appreciate it :)
[07:32] <DaSkreech> xenol: I was at lunch :0
[07:32] <DaSkreech> xenol: What discussion?
[07:33] <doudoo> fribuntu ??? still there?
[07:33] <fribuntu> doudoo: So you got an error message "I cant do this because of a problem with gpar2. Good bye"?
[07:33] <doudoo> no
[07:33] <_kuja_> lm_: sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/java java /usr/java/jre1.5.0_10/bin/java java 10
[07:34] <doudoo> but it's pretty hard for me to translate
[07:34] <fribuntu> doudoo: Or was there any information that might actually help to find the cause of the error?
[07:34] <doudoo> a technical message error
[07:34] <fribuntu> doudoo: What is your native language?
[07:34] <doudoo> let me check some vocabulary ^^
[07:34] <doudoo> french
[07:34] <_kuja_> lm_ sudo update-alternatives --set /usr/java/jre1.5.0_10/bin/java
[07:34] <fribuntu> doudoo: So go to the french forums then?
[07:34] <doudoo> nobody can help me
[07:34] <doudoo> ...
[07:35] <_kuja_> What was your problem again .... granted, I don't know an ounce of french.
[07:35] <fribuntu> doudoo: Hmm ... I am not sure I can either.
[07:35] <lm_> _kuja_: both times, it tells me "No such file or directory"
[07:35] <_kuja_> Odd
[07:36] <_kuja_> mayber I messed up with my copying & pastuing
[07:36] <DaSkreech> !tuxracer
[07:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tuxracer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:36] <DaSkreech> !ppenguin
[07:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ppenguin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:36] <doudoo> when i sudo apt-get install beryl, the errror is : the package gpar2 must be reinstall. but i can't locate his archive.
[07:37] <_kuja_> lm_, that path should be correct, according to the directory structure you printed out for me.
[07:37] <lm_> hmmm......... cryptic....
[07:37] <doudoo> when i sudo apt-get install gpar2 it says the says
[07:37] <doudoo> the package is on my desktop
[07:37] <doudoo> desktop folder i mean
[07:38] <_kuja_> type this: ll /usr/java/jre1.5.0_10/bin/java
[07:38] <weswh-> has anyone setup an SSHFS thing? i have it all working - but i want to mount a particular user of the system I am SSHing to, and it doesn't seem to have an option to supply an alternate user name.
[07:38] <_kuja_> *erm, ls -l
[07:38] <_kuja_> unles you have the ll alias set, sorry, it slipped
[07:38] <fribuntu> _kuja_, karmikaze: I checked the fsck log. It just repeats the messages it showed during the check. No additional information about the nature of the error. See http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38134/
[07:39] <lm_> _kuja_:  -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 65076 2006-11-10 00:03 /usr/java/jre1.5.0_10/bin/java
[07:39] <fribuntu> that is quite annoying. Hmm ... what was the tool that could read out the HDD SMART data again?
[07:39] <_kuja_> fribuntu, disregard it, but make regular backups  JIK
[07:39] <Ace2016> Hi all
[07:39] <Fragrag> Can somebody explain me just how do I do this?: http://www.itdp.de/~itdp/html/mplayer-users/2004-11/msg00412.html
[07:39] <_kuja_> hi Ace
[07:40] <Ace2016> When raid 1 is used, are both disks reading the same info at the same time? or is it only 1 disk that is read from with the other just synced every now and then?
[07:40] <Ace2016> _kuja_: Hi
[07:40] <_kuja_> Ace2016: At least with a hardware RAID controller, the drive whose head is closest to that block of data reads it
[07:41] <Ace2016> What about software raid, with mdadm?
[07:41] <_kuja_> I would assume it would do the same, presuming its smart enough.
[07:41] <_kuja_> Both drives won't be reading it at the same time unless there's multiple simultaneous accesses
[07:41] <Ace2016> so hdparm -tT wou;ld be faster for md0 than for individual disks?
[07:42] <_kuja_> Give it a try
[07:42] <_kuja_> Show me what it has to say
[07:42] <_kuja_> Do it for /dev/mapper/device ........ I think
[07:42] <_kuja_> if it supports doing that
[07:42] <_kuja_> or maybe doing it for md0 would work too, I'm not sure
[07:42] <_kuja_> or wait, /dev/mapper would dmraid
[07:42] <_kuja_> sorry
[07:43] <DaSkreech> ubotu: tuxracer is Tuxracer is now renamed Planet Penguin Racer!!!!! The package is planetpenguin-racer in universe. Enjoy
[07:44] <_kuja_> Ace2016: Try this: hdparm -tT /dev/md0 /dev/(insert first drive here), /dev/(second drive here)
[07:44] <xenol> !source-o-matic
[07:44] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic.  It does not currently support Edgy sources.  When asked if it will, the reply was "maybe".
[07:45] <fribuntu> Grr. "Maxtor 6L200M0 ... device does not support SMART". What is that? A one year old disk without SMART capability?
[07:45] <DaSkreech> !planetpenguin-racer
[07:45] <DaSkreech> ! info planetpenguin-racer
[07:45] <ubotu> planetpenguin-racer: another 3D racing game featuring Tux, the Linux penguin. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-8 (edgy), package size 273 kB, installed size 744 kB
[07:45] <dennister> hey everyone, u want to hear something really funny? technically-related?
[07:45] <_kuja_> My drives fare pretty well :D 1700mb/s for cache reads, 63mb/s for disk reads
[07:45] <fribuntu> dennister: No.
[07:45] <DaSkreech> ubotu: tuxracer is Tuxracer is now renamed Planet Penguin Racer!!!!! The package is planetpenguin-racer in !universe. Enjoy
[07:46] <dennister> oooooookkkkkkk
[07:46] <_kuja_> lm_, well that's certainly odd .... it definitely exists
[07:47] <lm_> _kuja_: yeah... how wouls i have to update it via the repos?
[07:47] <_kuja_> lm_, if you do it via the repos, first you enable the multiverse repository, then you do sudo aptitude install sun-java5-jre
[07:48] <zarko> hi
[07:48] <Ace2016> none of the pastebins work, very strange
[07:48] <Ace2016> Finally god one http://paste.uni.cc/12410
[07:48] <Ace2016> zarko: hi
[07:48] <aleksanteri> i have a problem, but too lazy to write everything so i give a link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=322216
[07:50] <Ace2016> Why is raid1 so slow, you have 2 disks to read from, so why doesn't it easily out perform the single disks?
[07:51] <zarko> how to run streaming audio
[07:51] <lm_> _kuja_: holy sh** i dont know what i did with your commands kuja, but now i cant open any apps!"!!
[07:51] <_kuja_> It's not designed to be faster, really, and the only time you see read performance increases is when you multiple access to the same thing. Raid1 is about redundancy, not speed.
[07:51] <lm_> "KDEinitcould not launch firefox. Could not find firefox executable"...!!!
[07:51] <_kuja_> RAID0 speeds up access, but it's not redundant, in fact, it's the opposite, it spreads the data across multiple disks, so if any one of them fails your're sol
[07:51] <_kuja_> !!
[07:51] <lm_> this is serious
[07:52] <_kuja_> lm_ that's way ODD!
[07:52] <lm_> ...
[07:52] <karmikaze> !wpa
[07:52] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:52] <_kuja_> try sudo aptitude install firefox?
[07:52] <_kuja_> maybe it removed something while you weren't looking o.O
[07:52] <Ace2016> lm_: did you update kde and not restart or something?
[07:52] <lm_> ...i cant open the teminarl
[07:52] <lm_> terminal
[07:52] <lm_> nope
[07:52] <_kuja_> lm_ ctrl + alt + f1
[07:52] <lm_> not that i know of
[07:53] <lm_> what would that do _kuja_?
[07:53] <_kuja_> use ctrl + alt + f7 to get back to the gui
[07:53] <Ace2016> i was about to say that
[07:53] <_kuja_> ctrl + alt + f1 takes you to vt1
[07:53] <lm_> what would that cause? a restart of kde?
[07:54] <lm_> jesus... almost every app on my kdepanel cant start
[07:54] <lm_> oh man....
[07:54] <DaSkreech> lm_: kalm my friend
[07:54] <lm_> lol this is almost scary :)
[07:55] <DaSkreech> If one change can break everything then one change can put it back :)
[07:55] <aleksanteri> lm_: reboot? just threw in tho :P
[07:56] <DaSkreech> lm_: can you press Alt+F2 ?
[07:56] <lm_> uhm... not to worry anyone...... isnt there supposed to be a "bin" directory in the "usr"
[07:56] <lm_> ?
[07:56] <DaSkreech> lm_: Yes
[07:56] <lm_> ....................
[07:56] <lm_> w   t  f has happenede?
[07:57] <lm_> my bin directory oos gone!!
[07:57] <lm_> *is
[07:57] <DaSkreech> Ah :)
[07:57] <DaSkreech>  that would explain a lot
[07:57] <lm_> holy f***
[07:57] <DaSkreech> sothere is no /bin
[07:57] <DaSkreech> lm_: again
[07:57] <Ace2016> how did you get rid of /bin
[07:57] <DaSkreech> calm down :)
[07:57] <aleksanteri> O_o
[07:57] <aleksanteri> that's mad!
[07:57] <Ace2016> i suppose a command that reinstalls all packages on the system would be handy about now, since root apps run from /sbin
[07:58] <DaSkreech> Ther is one
[07:58] <DaSkreech> lm_: do you still havea /usr/bin ?
[07:58] <Ace2016> wait how do you know you don't have a /usr/bin?
[07:58] <lm_> how would a list EVERY directory...not just the visible?
[07:58] <lm_> dir?
[07:59] <Ace2016> ls /usr/bin/* shoud show it
[07:59] <Willtre> Hey guys, in Konversation how do I make it auto-identify? What do they mean by "Service"... Do I put freenode or something?
[07:59] <_kuja_> nvidia's 9631 driver is ticking me off!!
[07:59] <Ace2016> _kuja_: that driver is good
[07:59] <Ace2016> i'm using it with beryl and its very stable
[07:59] <lm_> _kuja_: No such file or diretory
[07:59] <_kuja_> Like h*#!
[07:59] <Ace2016> i have to eat now, brb
[07:59] <lm_> YEAH!!
[07:59] <_kuja_> I woudln't be hard booting my system if this driver was good ....
[08:00] <lm_> _kuja_: im gonna strangle you when i get a hold on you
[08:00] <_kuja_> reachign for that power button is not a good sign!
[08:00] <lm_> :)
[08:00] <lm_> you moved my bin directory to my /usr/java directory!!
[08:00] <_kuja_> strangle me eh? Only if you promise to strangle nvidia in my stead
[08:00] <Willtre> I want to download software from the multiverse and universe, what repos should I add multi/universe to?
[08:00] <_kuja_> I moved nothing!
[08:00] <lm_> yes you did
[08:00] <_kuja_> you moved it!
[08:00] <Willtre> I liked Gnomes just check the box of what you want -.-
[08:00] <_kuja_> I never told you to use the mv command ....
[08:01] <DaSkreech> !universe > Willtre
[08:01] <lm_> _kuja_:  no..... but you better give me some command to get it back
[08:01] <lm_> :)
[08:01] <_kuja_> Where is it at again?
[08:01] <_kuja_> the mv command might do the trick ...
[08:01] <Willtre> DaSkreech: Thanks
[08:01] <lm_> ... /usr/java/bin
[08:01] <_kuja_> sudo mv oldlocation newlocation
[08:02] <DaSkreech> lm_: Whats inside of that directory?
[08:02] <lm_> DaSkreech: a LOT
[08:02] <lm_> looks very much like my bin dir
[08:02] <_kuja_> /bin, or /usr/bin?
[08:02] <DaSkreech> Ah :-) Is echo inside there?
[08:02] <_kuja_> what's in your /bin and /usr/bin directories?P
[08:03] <lm_> DaSkreech: yeah, echo-klient-something
[08:03] <lm_> _kuja_: what do you mean?
[08:03] <DaSkreech> lm_: No just echo nothing else
[08:03] <_kuja_> do ls /bin and ls /usr/bin
[08:03] <_kuja_> what's in those places?
[08:04] <lm_> _kuja_: a LOT file names... like kicker and such
[08:04] <lm_> zip
[08:04] <lm_> zipnote
[08:04] <lm_> ...
[08:04] <lm_> lot more
[08:04] <lm_> kfile
[08:04] <lm_> etc.
[08:04] <runpain> God day all
[08:05] <runpain> can some one helpme
[08:05] <_kuja_> Well that's good ....... those things don't seem to be broken. I'm suspecting the problems happened when you did the aptitude install sun-java5-jre ...
[08:05] <aseigo> goddess day to you too =)
[08:05] <_kuja_> runpain: probably
[08:05] <xenol> !oo
[08:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:05] <runpain> i goofed up my linux it gets to splash screen and i cant logon
[08:06] <runpain> i changed the grapic card driver
[08:06] <lm_> fu***!!!
[08:06] <_kuja_> lm_ what now?
[08:06] <runpain> it is at grub boot now
[08:06] <lm_> how am i supposed to move the damn directory, when linux cant find the damn sudo command which is in the bin dir!!!
[08:06] <lm_> aaarrghgh
[08:06] <aseigo> runpain: so the splash screen is all "messed up" visually, or it isn't accepting your password?
[08:06] <_kuja_> runpain: can you use ctrl + alt + f1 to get back to the terminal?
[08:06] <runpain> how do i fix this
[08:07] <Rob-West> can someone tell me why i cant play a game on http://www.freeonlinegames.com/
[08:07] <_kuja_> lm_, try running sudo with the full path
[08:07] <lm_> ...allright, ill try it
[08:07] <runpain> aseigo
[08:07] <DaSkreech> !openoffice
[08:07] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[08:07] <lm_> like "/usr/java/binsudo mvdir /usr/java/bin /usr"??
[08:07] <xenol> Linux is like wygnan, no windows, no gates, apache inside :p
[08:07] <Willtre> Is Koffice anywhere near openoffice's quality?
[08:08] <runpain> ok what it does is the proscess and then it gets stuck just befor the logon
[08:08] <_kuja_> I find koffice great, though some of its finer soon-to-be killer features are a bit buggy
[08:08] <Stalwart> does kubuntu feisty require internet connection to install?
[08:08] <xenol> no
[08:08] <_kuja_> at least it doesn't take an hour to start up!
[08:08] <lm_> ahhhhhhhhhhh:D
[08:09] <Willtre> Koffice it is! *Downloads*
[08:09] <lm_> *whew*
[08:09] <Willtre> I've been using Krita instead of gimp lately too, it's nice since it's only one window
[08:09] <Rob-West> can someone tell me why i cant play a game on http://www.freeonlinegames.com/ when i load the games the game screen is black
[08:09] <lm_> nice linux help, you are _kuja_ :D
[08:09] <Willtre> Rob-West My guess is they use flash and they require flash 8 and or you don't have flash 7
[08:09] <lm_> moving my dirs around :D
[08:09] <Stalwart> Rob-West: java plugin probably
[08:09] <elt0n> hi can someone tell me how to speed up kpf under KDE?
[08:09] <Rob-West> i have Flash 7 and Java
[08:09] <_kuja_> lm_, your problem right now is by far the whackiest I've ever seen
[08:09] <runpain> i am using ichthux
[08:10] <DaSkreech> lm_: Ha ha chalk it up to experience
[08:10] <lm_> lol yeah
[08:10] <DaSkreech> runpain: How is it?
[08:10] <runpain> its real nice
[08:10] <_kuja_> elt0n, there are some settings in its configure menu that might speed it up for you
[08:10] <DaSkreech> _kuja_: What's his problem other than hopping inodes?
[08:10] <elt0n> _kuja_:i want to share files locally on lan with windows i get a much more higher speed! Why is this limited to 99999kb/s
[08:10] <_kuja_> rob-west, what's the output of java -version run from a terminal?
[08:10] <Willtre> I'm using Kopete how do I delete status messages?
[08:10] <runpain> but i screwed up and replaced grapic driver and cant logon
[08:11] <Stalwart> christian linux?
[08:11] <_kuja_> elt0n: no idea
[08:11] <Rob-West> java version "1.5.0_08"
[08:11] <elt0n> _kuja_:but i only get 900k
[08:11] <xenol> !regnum online
[08:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about regnum online - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:11] <Skeez187> Are there any good usenet binary apps besides klibido?
[08:11] <_kuja_> rob-west, that should work well ... I wonder if that's the version that your browser is using, java.com has an applet that will tell you
[08:12] <Rob-West> well im running FireFox 2.0
[08:12] <runpain> stal can you pm me
[08:12] <Stalwart> ?
[08:12] <runpain> ya you asked is it christian
[08:13] <runpain> i am usins my desktop
[08:13] <runpain> rite now
[08:13] <runpain> with windoz
[08:13] <Willtre> K > G *Is amazed by all the ksoftware, compared to gnome as I just switched.  Ktoon looks awesome.  Kdevelop is nice.*
[08:13] <Stalwart> i just think religion is personal stuff of every person, i don't like "christian", "satanic" and other such stuff
[08:14] <elt0n> afk
[08:14] <runpain> listen i wasnt asking or preaching
[08:14] <Stalwart> it's like sexual orientation - i don't think "linux of gays" is good idea
[08:14] <DaSkreech> Stalwart: All linux is agnostic
[08:14] <LjL> !offtopic
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[08:14] <Stalwart> =P
[08:14] <DaSkreech>  No one knows all knowledge so we all work together to scratch our knowledge itch :-)
[08:14] <runpain> i was only looking for some help here you arte the one with the opions
[08:15] <DaSkreech> runpain: what did you need help with
[08:15] <Rob-West> where can i get like Internet Explorer 6
[08:15] <DaSkreech>  _kuja_What's lm_'s problem?
[08:15] <Willtre> Has anyone used a Wacom tablet with Krita?
[08:15] <Stalwart> Rob-West: try ies4linux script
[08:15] <DaSkreech> Rob-West: apt-get install firefox
[08:15] <_kuja_> Seems like lm_'s problem is nightmarish at this point
[08:16] <runpain> i scrweed up my graphic driver now it wont boot to logon scren
[08:16] <DaSkreech> _kuja_: Which is?
[08:16] <Rob-West> firefox is installed
[08:16] <Willtre> runpain: Which driver are you using?
[08:16] <DaSkreech> runpain: Do you have a live Cd?
[08:16] <Stalwart> runpain: did you try using livecd to repair config?
[08:16] <DaSkreech> Rob-West: Then you are ok :)
[08:16] <deus> hello
[08:16] <_kuja_> binaries seem to have been copied or moved from some folder to another (/usr/java/bin, or similar), and everything is broken
[08:16] <Rob-West> i think this game needs shockwave
[08:17] <_kuja_> Rob-West: Shockwave isn't available under Linux
[08:17] <runpain> ya i havce live cd but this machine will not boot with the dvd driver installed only the cdrom and i left it home
[08:17] <Rob-West> and using like Crossover wont work
[08:17] <Rob-West> unless i install the Windows version of Firefox
[08:18] <_kuja_> you *might* be able to install a windows browser with wine, and install shockwave with wine
[08:18] <_kuja_> I don't know if it will work or not htough.
[08:18] <runpain> can i repair when i boot to grub
[08:18] <runpain> in recovry mode
[08:19] <Rob-West> i got a crossover
[08:19] <Stalwart> runpain: you'll need default config if you don't know xorg.conf structure
[08:19] <runpain> can i repair config from the grub
[08:19] <Stalwart> runpain: grub is bootloader, you need to boot your system anyways
[08:20] <Stalwart> in singleuesr mode
[08:20] <runpain> ok its to there
[08:20] <_kuja_> the xorg.conf may be repairalbe from a terminal with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:20] <runpain> yes
[08:20] <towync> hi, i'm trying to watch video online firefox, and it keeps saying i'm missing plugins x-mplayer2, i already installed mplayer, what could i do
[08:20] <Stalwart> towync: mplayer-plugin isntalled?
[08:21] <runpain> ok i can make it to trem
[08:21] <DaSkreech> lm_: What's the problem?
[08:21] <towync> Stalwart how do i install the plugin, i think i just download from apt get mplayer
[08:21] <_kuja_> supposedly this non-usable xserver-xorg configuration drops you to the terminal "problem" (from a certain perspective) will be fixed in feisty :) (see the bullet-proof x specification)
[08:22] <runpain> ok its booting through the config
[08:22] <Gecko> Hey there. There was an update to a lot of kde packages a few days ago, and since then, I have experienced a lot of random lock-ups in kde. I have linked the problem to dcopserver - maybe it crashes, maybe it just doesn't work that well. Sometimes when I launch kde, and start konqueror, konqueror freezes, and every subsequent app I start locks up as well. Has anyone experienced this before, or got any solution?
[08:23] <_kuja_> Gecko: I've not experienced this.
[08:23] <Gecko> weird
[08:23] <_kuja_> are you sure _all_ packages were updated?
[08:23] <runpain> now when i turn off grphic its a blank screen with flashing line
[08:23] <Gecko> _kuja_: yes. I have some unresolved dependencies regarding python, but nothing that has anything to do with kde
[08:23] <runpain> i an re booting
[08:24] <Stalwart> towync: mplayer-plugin must be in repos
[08:24] <runpain> i am rebooting
[08:24] <Gecko> _kuja_: sometimes even kicker crashes
[08:24] <_kuja_>  Gecko: and you're using dapper? or edgy?
[08:24] <towync> Stalwart so just do apt-get install mplayer-plugin?
[08:24] <Gecko> _kuja_: edgy
[08:24] <Rob-West> wine is laggy
[08:24] <_kuja_> Hmm, odd enough.
[08:24] <Stalwart> towync: probably, i didn't use ubuntu since dapper
[08:25] <Rob-West> now if i install ShockWave with wine will it work for the Linux FireFox
[08:25] <_kuja_> rob-west, it does tend to be, it's far from perfect
[08:25] <Gecko> _kuja_: it's almost every second time I start up kde. When it actually is stable, I get a message on launch that dcopserver isn't running, or something the like
[08:25] <unix_infidel> Rob-West: of course not.
[08:25] <_kuja_> rob-west: no
[08:26] <towync> Stalwart cool, what do u use? i'm pretty new to linux and i'm still trying out for a nice OS
[08:26] <runpain> i am at root@bible_laptop:~#
[08:26] <_kuja_> Gecko: try reinstalling kde-base, maybe there's a problem of some sort
[08:26] <darkserver> hello
[08:26] <_kuja_> *erm, kdebase
[08:26] <Gecko> _kuja_: ok, I will do that, but not while kde is running :)
[08:26] <Stalwart> towync: i was using archlinux
[08:26] <unix_infidel> towync: my guess is the distro that helps you get the most work done will keep you sane when your not doing work.
[08:26] <runpain> how do i reconfig graphic card driver
[08:27] <unix_infidel> for me that was *ubuntu
[08:27] <runpain> back to the orginal one
[08:27] <darkserver> I have some kind of trouble, when i trying to install beryl in kubuntu edgy
[08:27] <towync> cool thx everyone
[08:27] <Stalwart> ubuntu is great
[08:27] <Stalwart> archlinux has bad amd64 support =\
[08:27] <towync> Stalwart is mplayer different from mplayer plugin?
[08:27] <darkserver> please i need help, some help
[08:27] <Stalwart> towync: mplayer-plugin is wrapper that allows you to play videos in mozilla, opera, konq
[08:27] <faLUCE> Hi all.. which is the command line to see the available and the actually free ram? thnks
[08:28] <runpain> Stalwart are you going to help me?
[08:28] <Stalwart> faLUCE: free -m
[08:28] <Stalwart> runpain: no, i'm just chit-chatting =] 
[08:28] <runpain> you started to
[08:28] <faLUCE> Stalwart: thnks
[08:28] <Stalwart> i like how ubuntu evolves, it's good
[08:29] <Stalwart> faLUCE: np
[08:29] <murchadh_bhaba> runpain, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:29] <runpain> thank you mur
[08:29] <Stalwart> runpain: i usually use livecd for fixing my problems, i never used singleuser mode
[08:29] <Stalwart> so i can't help you
[08:29] <murchadh_bhaba> runpain, vw ??)
[08:31] <_kuja_> darkserver, what sort of trouble?
[08:31] <velle> i want to buy a printer, is it always easy to install them on kubuntu? or should i look for something special?
[08:31] <Stalwart> velle: hp released opensource drivers
[08:32] <Stalwart> velle: check hplip.sf.net
[08:32] <runpain> did it mugot the blue screens
[08:33] <deus> hey guys
[08:33] <runpain> at key board detection
[08:33] <deus> I burned a liveCD of kubuntu
[08:33] <deus> And I got the splash screen, but halfway through the boot process it hangs
[08:34] <velle> Stalwart: opensource drivers is great, but i have NO idea how to modify drivers myself, i need an easy way to install it
[08:34] <_kuja_> velle, you'd best check what's compatible before you buy, and then look for that compatible printer. Printers can be trouble in linux
[08:34] <Stalwart> velle: opensource drivers are good for distro developers, ubuntu devs include hplip by default
[08:35] <_kuja_> http://www.freestandards.org/en/OpenPrinting
[08:35] <knapp_> What program can convert m4a to mp3?
[08:36] <Stalwart> knapp_: much programs, audio-convert for example
[08:36] <cloakable> knapp_: ffmpeg
[08:36] <knapp_> cool thanks
[08:36] <Chainsaw> Hello all, has anyone tried setting up syslog for a linksys router in Kubuntu?  Successfully?
[08:37] <deus> can anyone help me with my liveCD problem?
[08:37] <_kuja_> deus: what problem are you having with it?
[08:38] <xenol> DaSkreech if i install software and i remove it will there stay some remains after em?
[08:38] <knapp_> cloakable do you know what the command is for ffmpeg to convert ?
[08:38] <Stalwart> deus: check your hardware, if it sucks just like my new laptop then you'll need some sex with kernel parameters
[08:38] <deus> _kuja_, well, I tried to load a live *CD* and it boots but it hangs halfway trough
[08:38] <_kuja_> probably noacpi
[08:38] <runpain> im backto the root@bible_laptop:~#
[08:38] <Stalwart> i managed to get linux on my lappy by passing noapic irqpoll
[08:38] <Daskreech2> xenol: Yes
[08:38] <Daskreech2> unless you say purge
[08:38] <Daskreech2>  then it's all gone
[08:38] <runpain> should i reboot
[08:38] <_kuja_> deus: you should be able to pass in some kernel parameters ..... try giving it the noacpi option
[08:38] <deus> Stalwart, what does that mean?  I doesnt sound nearly as fun as sex with humans
[08:39] <_kuja_> LOL
[08:39] <deus> Okay.  I do that
[08:39] <Stalwart> deus: use google to find some info about your hardware compatibility
[08:39] <runpain> mu?
[08:39] <Stalwart> my lappy's chipset (nvidia mcp51) sucks ;[
[08:39] <runpain> should i boot back up
[08:40] <jerp> just for the record: when I downloaded kubuntu I burnt the cd at a slower rate but still found that it would hang during install and solved that problem by moving the graphical interface around and then clicking the next button to proceed.
[08:42] <xenol> DaSkreech onyl packages stay there or config files, some tmp like in windows?
[08:42] <xenol> only
[08:43] <Daskreech2> remove leaves your config files incase you want to install it again later
[08:45] <xenol> DaSkreech2 so app s removed but package and conf files(it there r any) r stored on / partition?
[08:45] <Daskreech2> what do you mean by package?
[08:45] <Daskreech2> Dink: Got my PM?
[08:46] <_kuja_> xenol: it keeps conf and similar files, which are usually hidden files in your home director, conf files in /etc/, or log files in /var
[08:46] <Dink> Daskreech2, about ps3/ubuntu ?
[08:46] <_kuja_> *directory
[08:46] <Daskreech2> Yeah the walkthrough to install
[08:47] <Dink> yeah I saw but not really the way to do it ..... waiting for the fluxbuntu or a real ps3 image
[08:47] <Dink> dont want to install 2 os's then remove oen
[08:47] <Dink> one*
[08:47] <xenol> DaSkreech2  ?
[08:47] <Daskreech2> So you are going to use fluxbuntu?
[08:48] <Dink> they are going to come out with a ps3 image
[08:49] <Daskreech2> Dink: Yeah But I mean wouldn't that be fluxbuntu and not Kubuntu :)
[08:49] <Daskreech2> xenol: I should ask you that
[08:49] <Daskreech2> In fact.. I did!!
[08:49] <Dink> ;), until "ubuntu" has a ps3 image its closest thing that will be supported to a "ubuntu" distro
[08:50] <_kuja_> The one thing I wonder about linux on the ps3 is the graphics drivers .... there is no proprietary drivers for nvidia cards on the PPC platform, and even if there were, the nvidia drivers likely don't support the RSX anyway
[08:50] <xenol> DaSkreech2  fluxbuntu?
[08:50] <Daskreech2> Yeah But shouldn't you "technically" be able to apt-get install a fluxbuntu server then apt-get isnatll kubunut-desktop
[08:50] <Daskreech2> xenol: That wasn't for you
[08:50] <Dink> _kuja_, it a security risk i think to give full access to the RSX
[08:50] <Daskreech2> xenol: I was asking what you meant by package
[08:51] <xenol> DaSkreech2  that i download thorugh apt-get
[08:51] <Daskreech2> _kuja_: I recall .. somewhere that nvidia would release drivers for it
[08:51] <Daskreech2> no remove doesn't get rid of those
[08:51] <Daskreech2> ap-tget clean gets rid of those
[08:51] <_kuja_> be right back, I've got laundry to do ..
[08:52] <xenol> DaSkreech2  apt-get clean does get rid of wat?
[08:53] <Daskreech> xenol: The package you downloaded
[08:53] <Daskreech> they are kept in /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:53] <xenol> i need to write apt-get clean name_of_the_package?
[08:53] <Daskreech> no that' just gets rid of everything in /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:54] <Daskreech> autoclean is smarter way
[08:55] <xenol> daskreech do u know any page where i can choose wat for i want to sue PC and gives me the list of sofware i should have?
[08:56] <Daskreech> Why do yo uwant to sue your PC?
[08:56] <b0nn> Hi all, I'm having upgrading problems (dapper -> edgy)
[08:56] <xenol> sue?
[08:57] <Daskreech> !upgrade
[08:57] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[08:57] <b0nn> I cannot reboot my system, and google hasnt shown me any solution.  The errors I get are, mounting /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev failed no such file or directory
[08:57] <xenol> any web page that can give me a list of best soft in categories like ofice, chat, archiver, media/audio player etc
[08:58] <Daskreech> !windows
[08:58] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[08:58] <Daskreech> !equivalents
[08:58] <ubotu> A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[08:58] <Daskreech> That one :)
[08:58] <xenol> ty
[08:59] <b0nn> ah, so I need to install the following that were heldback apt-get -u dist-upgrade | grep ^' ' | xargs apt-get -y install
[08:59] <sinpath> need help my yahoo keeps losing connection with the yahoo sever
[08:59] <b0nn> how do I do that on a system that wont boot?
[08:59] <lm_> Daskreech: _kuja_ : sorry for not answering, was outside running... but no worries, got it fixed by using the sudo path and moving the bin dir back :D
[09:00] <_kuja_> lm_: that's good news
[09:00] <lm_> yup :)
[09:00] <b0nn> do I boot a live cd, mount/chroot, then run that command?
[09:00] <sinpath> any one?
[09:00] <Daskreech> b0nn: That can work
[09:01] <Daskreech> sinpath: how often?
[09:01] <lm_> well thanks for the help... allthough my original problem still exist hehe see ya
[09:02] <sinpath> well about every 3 or so hours
[09:02] <Daskreech> what was the original problem
[09:02] <Daskreech> Oh thought that was just me
[09:02] <Stalwart> w00t, kubuntu 7.04 is awesome
[09:02] <Stalwart> <3 developers
[09:03] <Daskreech> Herd 1?
[09:03] <_kuja_> kubuntu 7.04 isn't even kubuntu 7.04 yet .... it's still kubuntu feisty, and as fa
[09:03] <_kuja_> r as I can tell it's hardly been touched
[09:03] <_kuja_> just edgy with some updated packages ...
[09:03] <Stalwart> Daskreech: yup, i run livecd now and will install it on hard drive right now
[09:03] <Stalwart> _kuja_: feisty has newer kernel
[09:04] <hudsy> hello
[09:04] <hudsy> i have a problem!!
[09:04] <_kuja_> as I said, edgy with some newer packages, such as that newer kernel
[09:04] <Stalwart> my hardware sucks and i need fresh kernel
[09:04] <_kuja_> hudsy: say it
[09:04] <hudsy> i cant open folders,
[09:04] <Daskreech> hudsy: can you go into folders?
[09:04] <_kuja_> What does it tell you?
[09:04] <hudsy> konqueror->erased
[09:04] <_kuja_> permission denied or something?
[09:04] <hudsy> with firefox
[09:04] <hudsy> no
[09:05] <_kuja_> I don't get it, what do you mean by konqueror->erased?
[09:05] <hudsy> i havent it
[09:05] <_kuja_> apt-get install konqueror?
[09:06] <hudsy> it give me an error
[09:06] <_kuja_> what error?
[09:06] <hudsy> it says the pakage is broke
[09:06] <_kuja_> !pastebin
[09:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:06] <_kuja_> can you show me what the error is?
[09:06] <_kuja_> ubotu spoils me ...
[09:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spoils me ... - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:06] <_kuja_> !botsnack
[09:06] <ubotu> Yum!
[09:07] <Daskreech> _kuja_: How do you discipline the boot?
[09:07] <hudsy> Els segents paquets tenen dependncies sense satisfer:
[09:07] <Daskreech> Botsmack or something
[09:07] <hudsy>   konqueror: Depn: kcontrol (= 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3) per s'installar 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2
[09:07] <hudsy>              Depn: kdebase-kio-plugins (= 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3) per s'installar 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2
[09:07] <hudsy>              Depn: kdesktop (= 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3) per s'installar 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2
[09:07] <hudsy>              Depn: kfind (= 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3) per s'installar 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2
[09:07] <hudsy> E: Paquets trencats
[09:07] <hudsy> hudsy@hudsy-desktop:~$
[09:07] <_kuja_> funny
[09:07] <_kuja_> try it
[09:08] <hudsy> what can i do??
[09:08] <Daskreech> bot
[09:08] <Daskreech> !botsmack
[09:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botsmack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:08] <_kuja_> try apt-get i nstall kdebase-kio-plugins kdesktop kfind
[09:08] <Daskreech> !botslap
[09:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botslap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:08] <ubuntu_> oops
[09:08] <Daskreech> !shut up!
[09:08] <ubotu> :x
[09:08] <Daskreech> heehee :)
[09:08] <hudsy> botslap???
[09:08] <_kuja_> haha
[09:08] <hudsy> whats this??
[09:09] <Daskreech> hudsy: the opposite of !botsnack
[09:09] <_kuja_> try apt-get i nstall kdebase-kio-plugins kdesktop kfind
[09:09] <ibert> hi! I have a problem with kmail / imap. Sometimes the main In Folder "Posteingang" Disapears und is named "INBOX" after starting kontact. Further is the folder not a "special iconed" folder anymore, but is in the "normal" order of all the other folders in that email account. I had this problem in the past sometimes, but when restarting kontact the normal structur took place. Now I can't restore the old structure. any idea?
[09:09] <_kuja_> hudsy: that was just fun with the bot
[09:09] <Daskreech> !botsnack
[09:09] <ubotu> Yum!
[09:10] <_kuja_> ibert: I don't know, I don't use IMAP. I have heared of troubles with IMAP when using kmail before.
[09:10] <hudsy> _kuja_: anything...
[09:10] <Stalwart> ghm, i can't run installer
[09:10] <Stalwart> it gives me traceback
[09:10] <Stalwart>   File "/usr/lib/ubiquity/ubiquity/frontend/kde-ui.py", line 27, in ?
[09:10] <Stalwart>     from kdeui import *
[09:10] <_kuja_> hudsy: apt-get install kdebase-kio-plugins kdesktop kfind
[09:10] <Stalwart> ImportError: dynamic module does not define init function (initkdeui)
[09:11] <hudsy> it says is already installed...
[09:11] <_kuja_> Stalwart: feisty is far from being considered a stable release at the moment, your best bet is dist-upgrading from edgy, but that will take work, you'd best know what you're doing.
[09:11] <_kuja_> hudsy: that's interesting, one moment
[09:11] <Stalwart> i want to install feisty, is there a development chan?
[09:12] <_kuja_> hudsy: are you running edgy or dapper?
[09:12] <hudsy> edgy
[09:12] <homer_> hi, need help with 5.1 sound
[09:13] <_kuja_> Humm, I think it's saying that konqueror 3.5.5ubuntu3 is trying to be installed, and it's depending on kcontrol 3.5.5ubuntu3, but kcontrol 3.5.5ubuntu3.2  is installed, but it has to be equal.
[09:13] <homer_> !5.1
[09:13] <_kuja_> What repository are you using?
[09:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 5.1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:13] <mb___> !floating point exception
[09:13] <_kuja_> !surround sound
[09:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about surround sound - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:13] <mb___> can anyone hear me?
[09:14] <_kuja_> Huh, what's that, I can't hear you?
[09:14] <mb___> all of my x window apps are giving me floating point exceptions =/
[09:14] <Daskreech> install a fpu on your CPU?
[09:14] <_kuja_> mb___? Weird, are you overclocking or anythign weird like that?
[09:15] <mb___> not that i know of
[09:15] <hudsy> what can i do?
[09:15] <_kuja_> hudsy: what repositories are you using? Can I see your /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[09:15] <_kuja_> !pastebin | hudsy
[09:15] <ubotu> hudsy: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:17] <mb___> as the story goes, i installed the latest ati drivers the other day, and as i was playing around with wine, i had this point where the xserver got some type of font error when i tried to start it.. so i installed fluxbox, and everything's been fine until now
[09:17] <aleksanteri> wb DarkWizdom
[09:18] <DarkWizdom> thanks  :|  still having problem?
[09:18] <aleksanteri> ye :(
[09:19] <_kuja_> What's the problem?
[09:20] <DarkWizdom> internet not working :)
[09:20] <_kuja_> Crazy wireless problem I presume?
[09:20] <DarkWizdom> no, adsl
[09:20] <hudsy> kuja, what can i doo??
[09:20] <_kuja_> hudsy, can I see your /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[09:20] <hudsy> i paste here??
[09:21] <_kuja_> !pastebin
[09:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:22] <hudsy> kuja: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38151/
[09:23] <Ace2016> I'm back
[09:23] <hudsy> any idea kuja???
[09:23] <BluesKaj> same here :)
[09:24] <Ace2016> hudsy: what happened to your konqueror?
[09:25] <hudsy> i dont know....i've erased and now i cant reinstall it!
[09:26] <_kuja_> I'm looking at it now hudsy
[09:26] <hudsy> ok
[09:26] <hudsy> thenks
[09:27] <Willtre> I'm trying to get a Wacom intuos tablet to run on KDE.  I downloaded wacomtools and followed the wikipage/forum post but still when I mouse over stuff they don't get highlighted and I can't click drag. Can anyone help?
[09:28] <jerp> Has that 'NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9631-pkg2.run' driver for amd64 been checked out for installation on Kubuntu or should one stay with the standard nvidias in Adept manager?
[09:29] <Ace2016> _kuja_: would it help hudsy to add kubuntu's kde-latest to his repos and try to update and get konqueror back that way?
[09:29] <_kuja_> hudsy: I think I've figured out your problem, try adding this line to your sources.list: deb http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates main restricted universe multiverse, sudo apt-get update, then try to install konqueror
[09:29] <_kuja_> No, Konqueror 3.5.5ubuntu3.2 is provided by the edgy-updates repository
[09:29] <Ace2016> never knew taht
[09:29] <Ace2016> that*
[09:30] <knapp_> How can I restore a file I deleted using the 'rm' command?
[09:30] <_kuja_> knapp_ in short, you can't
[09:30] <BrianSteffens> what is the name of that thing that manages desktop widgets? karamba or something?
[09:30] <Daskreech> knapp_: redownload?
[09:30] <knapp_> yikes
[09:30] <Daskreech> Jesus has left us :(
[09:31] <_kuja_> lol
[09:31] <BrianSteffens> ha
[09:31] <DarkWizdom> !jusus
[09:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jusus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:31] <DarkWizdom> :(
[09:31] <Ace2016> knapp_: a data recovery app might be able to help, but i've never tried it
[09:31] <SlimG> More importantly, jesus is a KDE user :)
[09:31] <DarkWizdom> :D
[09:31] <BrianSteffens> :o)
[09:31] <hudsy>  thanks kuja!
[09:31] <jerp> that was probably Hey-suse
[09:31] <Daskreech> He loves choice :)
[09:32] <_kuja_> You're welcome hudsy, I'm assuming it worked?
[09:32] <hudsy> you are the best, ets el millor, eres el mejor, tu es le meilleur!!
[09:32] <hudsy> XD
[09:32] <CotRo|eR> Hey any 1 can show me how to do this: http://pastebin.ca/286605 in terminal (since i'm using ubuntu server)
[09:33] <_kuja_> ;)
[09:34] <ScottK> CotRo|eR - mkdir /home/YOUR_NAME/samba
[09:34] <ScottK> Was that the question?
[09:35] <CotRo|eR> yes, if I do that command it gets shared automatically ?
[09:35] <ScottK> That makes the directory.
[09:36] <CotRo|eR> how do I make step 2, 3 and 4 in terminal ?
[09:37] <Willtre> !ati > Willtre
[09:37] <ScottK> Try doing those steps on your desktop and then look at the permissions of the folder.  Use chmod to match those permissions.
[09:37] <hermesreg> hello??
[09:38] <hermesreg> anybody can help me??
[09:38] <hermesreg> When i start the streamtuner, the pc sends me something about xmms
[09:39] <jerp> heremsreg, should we ask what that something is?
[09:40] <jerp> or are we to know
[09:40] <hermesreg> wait a minute im going to repeat the action and tell to you the error message
[09:40] <jerp> this isn't foreknowledge, it's called IRC chat
[09:41] <hermesreg> oh I'm sorry ! Bye!!
[09:41] <jerp> np
[09:42] <murchadh_bhaba> CotRo|eR, /etc/samba/smb.conf is where shares and stuff go, is this what you're looking for. You can sudo nano /etc/samba/smb.etc
[09:44] <DarkWizdom> what do you recomend for burning iso s in kubuntu?
[09:44] <_kuja_> k3b
[09:44] <DarkWizdom> ok
[09:45] <_kuja_> By the way, k3b 1.0RC2 was released this week, and it's positively awesome
[09:45] <loslopez> mctux
[09:45] <DarkWizdom> that's perfect :))
[09:46] <_kuja_> Hmm, I think I'll venture into the dark, mysterious world of package building and try to build a k3b 1.0RC2 deb
[09:47] <DarkWizdom> me too
[09:47] <DarkWizdom> heh
[09:47] <martasbncz> speek czek ?
[09:47] <DarkWizdom> hmm
[09:48] <DarkWizdom> it says on website it's unstable ^^
[09:48] <DarkWizdom> gonna wait a bit longer :P
[09:49] <CotRo|eR> tnx murchadh_bhaba :)
[09:50] <_kuja_> DarkWizdom: it's plenty stable
[09:50] <Imrahil> how can I make a script with a dcop call or kwin or something to focus a window of a particular name? it is not a kde app so nothing is exposed in dcop
[09:51] <DarkWizdom> ok :
[09:51] <DarkWizdom> :)
[09:51] <_kuja_> it's not stable, it's currently at the second release candidate, but I mean it's stable enough to use
[09:51] <_kuja_> Heck, 1.0pre1 was pretty stable at that ...
[09:51] <_kuja_> albeit not perfect, but certainly stable enough to use
[09:52] <DarkWizdom> good enough for me
[09:52] <_kuja_> do apt-get install build-essential, then apt-get build-dep k3b
[09:52] <_kuja_> then you should be able to compile it without issue, should
[09:53] <DarkWizdom> ok :|
[09:53] <CotRo|eR> I have just managed to share a folder from ubuntu to windows, how do I set a limit of e.g. 10GB on samba???
[09:53] <virtual-voicu> i selected remote login in kdm and put the ip adress of an edgy computer but nothing happened (this computer is a breezy one)
[09:54] <_kuja_> to compile it, you first extract it (tar xf filename.tar.bz2), then you cd into the folder it created, then ./configure --enable-debug=full; make; sudo make install
[09:54] <virtual-voicu> can someone please point to some instructions on how to establish a remote login through X?
[09:54] <DarkWizdom> do I need dubug though?
[09:54] <DarkWizdom> debug*
[09:54] <CotRo|eR> I have just managed to share a folder from ubuntu to windows, how do I set a limit of e.g. 10GB on samba???
[09:54] <_kuja_> !remote
[09:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remote - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:54] <_kuja_> DarkWizdom: I just throw that in because it's helpful
[09:55] <DarkWizdom> ye, ok
[09:55] <Cuddles_in_KY> ok folks, after seven reboots, my system isn't crashing at random. -but- i need to install libcurl-gnutls-dev, but i can't get it to install. both apt-get, and adept both just say ''waiting for headers'' any ideas on this?
[09:55] <_kuja_> Should something go awry, it'll give better debugging information so they can fix it easier
[09:55] <DarkWizdom> true :|
[09:56] <_kuja_> Cuddles_in_KY: which repositories are you using? Try changing it to archive.ubuntu.com, or us.archive.ubuntu.com, updated,  and see if it makes any difference
[09:56] <_kuja_> (this of course, is done with /etc/apt/sources.list)
[09:57] <murchadh_bhaba> CotRo|eR, You seem to be on your way, cool! I'm not sure I get what you're asking now. Can you clarify? ??)
[09:57] <Cuddles_in_KY> kuja, no joy. can't even run apt-get update
[09:58] <_kuja_> What?
[09:58] <_kuja_> did you try changing the mirrors like I suggested?
[09:58] <Cuddles_in_KY> yes
[09:58] <_kuja_> Something is certainly wrong then
[09:59] <CotRo|eR> murchadh_bhaba: Yes of course, tnx btw. I have shared /home/samba and its now shown on My windows machine :D, now how do I make a limit to use 40GB and not more on /home/samba ?
[09:59] <_kuja_> The update flies well for me, so it's not a problem with the mirrors
[09:59] <Cuddles_in_KY> well, it's not not my connection, since i can connect anywhere else.
[09:59] <morgWork> ... I am baffled as to why df is not showing my root partition being mounted
[10:00] <_kuja_> Cuddles in KY: try this in a terminal: dig http://archive.ubuntu.com
[10:01] <Cuddles_in_KY> kuja, nothing.
[10:01] <Cuddles_in_KY> just sitting there
[10:03] <_kuja_> Well, cuddles_in_ky, that's not good news.
[10:03] <bthibault> i have 2 versions of flash installed for firefox, anybody know how to get rid of one
[10:03] <bthibault> ?
[10:04] <_kuja_> sounds like a dns resolution problem or something
[10:04] <_kuja_> bthibault: delete the one you don't want from the browsers plugin folder
[10:04] <Cuddles_in_KY> i can ping, surf, and chat just fine.
[10:04] <BluesKaj> bthibault, which 2 versions ?
[10:04] <CotRo|eR> murchadh_bhaba: Yes of course, tnx btw. I have shared /home/samba and its now shown on My windows machine :D, now how do I make a limit to use 40GB and not more on /home/samba ?
[10:04] <Cuddles_in_KY> i can even ping the repositories
[10:05] <murchadh_bhaba> CotRo|eR, You have me there. I've not had to do this. I'm doin' a quick scan of some notes. Hmmm......
[10:05] <bthibault> BluesKaj: 7.0 r68 and 9.0 d78
[10:05] <_kuja_> You can ping them, but you can't resolve their address, if dig isn't working for it, try resetting your networking (sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop && sleep 10s && sudo /etc/init.d/networking start)
[10:05] <CotRo|eR> tnx :)
[10:06] <Cuddles_in_KY> kuja, i can pull it up in firefox too.
[10:06] <BluesKaj> bthibault, dump vers 7 ...vers9 is the latest one
[10:06] <_kuja_> I suggest trying to restart the networking anyway, might fix it ;)
[10:07] <bthibault> BluesKaj: thanks i kind of figured that, i only have one libflashplayer.so file that i can find
[10:07] <_kuja_> bthibault: sudo locate -u; locate libflashplayer.so
[10:08] <BluesKaj> bthibault, i had to do that as well, the /usr/lib/firefox/plugins file doesn't show which *.so file is which
[10:09] <bthibault> _kuja_ thanks
[10:09] <bthibault> BluesKaj thanks
[10:09] <BluesKaj> np, bthibault. ..good luck :)
[10:10] <Daskreech> _kuja_: Whats so good about it?
[10:10] <Daskreech>  can it burn Bluray?
[10:10] <_kuja_> Yes
[10:10] <_kuja_> with growisofs7
[10:10] <_kuja_> At least, it recommends growisofs7 be used ...
[10:10] <_kuja_> I don't have a bluray burner so I can't test if it works.
[10:11] <Adam_eM> hi
[10:11] <Cuddles_in_KY> ok, i'm back. even rebooted my firewall, still no joy.
[10:11] <_kuja_> And I don't have $x00 dollars with which to get one
[10:12] <_kuja_> Also, audio previews for when you're burning a music cd (yes, this is new), massively improved/completed dvd ripping support, a slew of usability improvements
[10:12] <Daskreech> _kuja_: I have $00 dollars
[10:12] <Adam_eM> is there a possibility to set up a wireless connection using kubuntu livecd?
[10:12] <_kuja_> Daskreech: Wow, that sounds like how much I have
[10:12] <Daskreech> k3b is in which branch? Playground ?
[10:12] <Cuddles_in_KY> kuja, any more ideas?
[10:12] <_kuja_> multimedia, I think
[10:13] <_kuja_> cuddles_in_ky, I just went to do an apt-get update, and it hung at some point or another, something's wrong
[10:13] <Cuddles_in_KY> gee, ya think?
[10:13] <_kuja_> I think it hung on the universe or multiverse repository
[10:15] <Adam_eM> so what about the wireless connection setup? is it possible to get it directly from the livecd?
[10:15] <_kuja_> Daskreech: you can get k3b from k3b.org, click on the download link for RC2
[10:15] <Daskreech> I'm not sure I use k3b that much :)
[10:16] <_kuja_> It's painless, I swear
[10:16] <Daskreech> basically I fire it up once a new Kubuntu release is made to make an alternative and desktop CD
[10:16] <Daskreech> and I can do that with cdrecord
[10:16] <Daskreech> Though I did use it once to make a audio CD for a friend
[10:18] <Daskreech> backport it :)
[10:18] <_eMaX_> re
[10:19] <_eMaX_> in a wireless network with multiple repeaters, how can I see which one I am connected with
[10:23] <khaled> hi there, i have kubuntu installed on a partition and /home installed on another partition. can i install another distro on a new partition but at the same time uses /home ?
[10:25] <virtual-voicu> ok, does anyone know how to i connect to another machine through X? or how do i have to configure my machines to let kde connect them
[10:29] <Timmmm> virtual-voicu: ssh -X you@remote-machine
[10:30] <reagleBRKLN> i have files on a fuse partion i can't remove for some reason
[10:30] <reagleBRKLN> ?--------- ? ? ? ?            ? rawdog.html
[10:30] <Timmmm> khaled: Don't see why not.
[10:30] <reagleBRKLN> any way to force the issue?
[10:30] <soon> I'm utterly stuck ... cant seem to connect to my wireless (DHCP) ... Wireless Assist. shows me all 3 local routers, but Connection failed ... (IBM T60, Atheros wifi card) ... please help me :-)
[10:31] <Captain_Redbeard> how is kubuntus 64bit CD? I mean are all packages that are availible through the resps for the x86 architecture availible for the 64bit one and so forth?
[10:31] <aleksanteri> !kuser
[10:31] <ubotu> kuser: KDE user/group administration tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 230 kB, installed size 796 kB
[10:32] <murchadh_bhaba> virtual-voicu, How connect? Filesharing, ssh, desktop (vnc)? Tell us more? Give us more Input? InPuT???
[10:33] <virtual-voicu> well, X is supposed to be a network transparent display system
[10:33] <virtual-voicu> that means the windows will appear on this machine but the applications will run on the other one
[10:33] <virtual-voicu> it's similar to ssh just that is GUI
[10:34] <Captain_Redbeard> anyone?
[10:35] <_kuja_> C_R: not all, but most
[10:35] <_kuja_> The differnece is less than 2%
[10:35] <Daskreech> Captain_Redbeard: If you have a 64 Bit machine and use a 64bit kernel then your apps are 64 bit
[10:35] <Daskreech> assuming they are open source
[10:35] <BrianSteffens> can anyone please point me to some kind of tutorial on networking with fedora core or specifically ubuntu?
[10:35] <Captain_Redbeard> Daskreech: eherm? If you compile them all for your system yes
[10:36] <Realistic_Dragon> what kind BrianSteffens? advanced stuff (ad hoc routing, BGP, that kind of thing)?
[10:36] <Daskreech> Well if someone compi;es them for your system :)
[10:36] <computer> does anyone know how i can add borders?
[10:36] <Captain_Redbeard> Daskreech: exactly ;)
[10:36] <computer> sorry
[10:36] <BrianSteffens> realistic_dragon that'd be nice for the future yes but for now i'm looking for basics.. proper management of permissions to shared network resources, etc
[10:36] <computer> i meant does anyone know how i can add borders to windows?
[10:37] <Daskreech> Right well the repos have both x86 and x86_64 if you are 64bit you get x86_64
[10:37] <_kuja_> ARen't there borders by default computer?
[10:37] <Captain_Redbeard> Daskreech: My question though is, will I be able to have the same vast selection of binary packages I am used to?
[10:37] <Realistic_Dragon> hmm im actually not sure about that BrianSteffens, sorry :( if the ubuntu wiki doesnt have anything then the gentoo forums are always an interesting place to look - i assume you are sharing with samba? then you can also try the samba website
[10:37] <Realistic_Dragon> or the samba irc channel :)
[10:37] <BrianSteffens> realistic
[10:37] <BrianSteffens> realistic_dragon ty :)
[10:37] <Realistic_Dragon> np
[10:37] <_kuja_> C_R: yes, a handful aren't available for 64_bit
[10:38] <_kuja_> a small handful at that
[10:38] <Captain_Redbeard> _kuja_: Hmm ok, is it even something I will notice?
[10:38] <Daskreech> _kuja_: I'm guessing using the capn's full name would help :)
[10:38] <Captain_Redbeard> _kuja_: usually typing cap<tap> works ;)
[10:38] <Captain_Redbeard> *tab
[10:38] <_kuja_> does it?
[10:39] <BrianSteffens> captain_redbeard: my experience with that is pretty much everything is available if you're willing to build some from source
[10:39] <Daskreech> Captain_Redbeard: I guess there may be one or two obscure packages that stopped being maintained before the advent of 64 bit that you can't live without that may possible not have been updated
[10:39] <_kuja_> Captain_Redbeard:  oooooh it does
[10:39] <_kuja_> thanks :)
[10:39] <Daskreech> !tab
[10:39] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[10:39] <towycc> _kuja_ yeah borders were on by default, i sort of took it off, and now i can't find where to turn it back on lol
[10:39] <Captain_Redbeard> BrianSteffens: yes obviously ;) But me being a lazy twat is the reason I left gentoo behind me... and if I have to build stuff from source anyway it kinda beats the purpose ;)
[10:39] <_kuja_> and to think I've been typing them out for all this time
[10:40] <towycc> well someone mighta had the same question and still needed what u typed out =) so y ou still helped alot of people who is not speaking =)
[10:40] <towycc> does anyone know how i can turn on borders for windows?
[10:41] <_kuja_> towycc: assuming you're using kwin, system-settings -> appearance -> window decorations might be a place to start
[10:41] <towycc> and yes the borders were on by default, i somehow took it off, i remember too, but i just don't know where
[10:41] <towycc> to turn it back on at
[10:41] <towycc> i checked their tho
[10:42] <_kuja_> right click on the titlebar of any window, you should be able to do some configuration from one of the options that gets you
[10:42] <_kuja_> I've been using beryl lately though, so I can't really check it myself
[10:42] <_kuja_> unless i pull up a vm
[10:43] <towycc> yeah thx tho, i didn't want u to have to check, i'll look around some more, and *so jealous* you have beryl working! =)
[10:43] <_kuja_> switching vts has been throwing my video driver for a loop lately
[10:43] <fdoving> towycc: you can access the menus in question from the tasklist too, if you've disabled the borders.
[10:43] <towycc> oo, where's tasklist
[10:43] <towycc> o u mean to open the windows decoration thingy
[10:44] <DarkWizdom> how do you set password for root? meaning that it has no password at all at the moment
[10:44] <_kuja_> DarkWizdom, why not use sudo?
[10:44] <_kuja_> !sudo
[10:44] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:44] <aleksanteri> hmm it simply is not an option now
[10:45] <aleksanteri> like, set the password for root permamently
[10:45] <DarkWizdom> yeah
[10:45] <_kuja_> towycc: try looking under systemsettings -> desktop -> window behavior and systemsettings -> desktop -> window specific settings
[10:46] <towycc> cool thx _kuja_
[10:46] <DarkWizdom> I think some binaries have problems with sudo
[10:46] <DarkWizdom> so trying to use su only
[10:46] <_kuja_> sudo passwd -u root && sudo passwd root
[10:46] <DarkWizdom> thanks :)
[10:47] <babavwoko> hello
[10:47] <_kuja_> hi
[10:47] <Captain_Redbeard> Hmmm... I wonder if it's possible to do some form of "upgrade" from a 32bit system to 64... sounds a bit dodgy though...
[10:47] <murchadh_bhaba> CotRo|eR, http://www.tux.org/~rmorgan/als2000/linux_samba.html do a search for limit and I think it's you're 2nd or 3rd hit in the page (around the middle). I think it's what you wanted.
[10:47] <_kuja_> Captain_Redbeard: No, it's not
[10:47] <babavwoko> -got stuffs that u guys will luv
[10:48] <_kuja_> Captain_Redbeard: The answer would involve debootstrapping, at which point you're doing all the work yourself anyway, and might as well reinstall to save yourself time
[10:48] <babavwoko> beside what do you guys do
[10:48] <Captain_Redbeard> _kuja_: Hmm i _must_ be.... :) Just replacing all the installed packages with 64-bit ones
[10:48] <babavwoko> have been using micr prior to this time
[10:48] <Captain_Redbeard> _kuja_: exactly! :) I'm well bored and it would probably take me some good 5 hours... a nice way of killing time imo
[10:49] <_kuja_> Captain_Redbeard: so long as you're prepared to hit bumps and problems, by all means go ahead
[10:50] <babavwoko> this thread is dead boring
[10:50] <_kuja_> Captain_Redbeard: Some progs might have architecture specific configurations, some things in /var might be architecture specific, problems of that nature
[10:50] <babavwoko> so liong
[10:50] <_kuja_> babavwoko: what thread?
[10:51] <Captain_Redbeard> _kuja_: true true...
[10:52] <benkong2> could someone tell me why knetworkmanager does not keep my wireless key? Edgy fresh install it works fine but makes my enter my 128 bit WEP key each time
[10:52] <BrianSteffens> ok i have a shared folder on my server (running xubuntu) and am trying to connect to it with my main machine (kubuntu).. i can see the files and read them but cannot modify that folder. when setting up samba shares on the server machine i unchecked read-only. any ideas?
[10:52] <Captain_Redbeard> BrianSteffens: Does the samba user have access to the directory?
[10:52] <BrianSteffens> captain_redbeard how do you set up samba users >_<!
[10:53] <Captain_Redbeard> http://www.cerritoslug.org/tutorials/samba.html#Adding%20Samba%20Users%20For%20Win9x%20Clients
[10:54] <BrianSteffens> captain_redbeard perfect, thank you ^.^
[10:54] <Captain_Redbeard> BrianSteffens: no sweat mate :)
[10:54] <nibi> Hi
[10:54] <Captain_Redbeard> hello
[10:54] <nibi> can anyone please help me fix partition problems?
[10:54] <Captain_Redbeard> we can try ;)
[10:54] <_kuja_> Captain_Redbeard: If you're still interested, the solution is something like this: create a folder such as /chroot, debootstrap the 64-bit system in /chroot, delete the original /bin /boot /sbin type of folders, move the ones from /chroot to /, set up networking and other similar things, and hope you didn't miss anything
[10:55] <nibi> sweet :)
[10:55] <Captain_Redbeard> just ask your question and if someone can help you... well then that special one will answer ;)
[10:55] <php-freak> does kubuntu have a newgroup reader?
[10:55] <Captain_Redbeard> _kuja_: Yea... I got the procedure working in my head already... I'm just trying to make up my mind if it's worth it or not :D
[10:55] <BrianSteffens> Multiple desktops owns me!!! .. that is all
[10:55] <Alter-Ego> php-freak akregator
[10:56] <php-freak> is it already installed
[10:56] <Captain_Redbeard> murchadh_bhaba: and join the special peoples club? ;)
[10:56] <murchadh_bhaba> Captain_Redbeard, hehe
[10:56] <nibi> i basically had two partitions on this other HDD (not the one with kubuntu) when i installed kubuntu. Both of them could be accessed in /media as sda1 & sda2
[10:56] <php-freak> !akregator
[10:56] <_kuja_> akregator is already installed, but it's an rss reader . ...
[10:56] <ubotu> akregator: RSS feed aggregator for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 669 kB, installed size 2260 kB
[10:56] <php-freak> I see
[10:57] <php-freak> !newsgroup
[10:57] <nibi> now i formatted that hdd in windows and only have one partition
[10:57] <ubotu> There are Ubuntu newsgroups via NNTP at news.gmane.org
[10:57] <php-freak> I need a newgroup reader
[10:57] <_kuja_> apt-cache search newgroup
[10:57] <Captain_Redbeard> nibi: uhm... So... under windows does it still show up as two partitions?
[10:57] <hatta> pan
[10:57] <hatta> pan is a great gui news client
[10:57] <nibi> but kubuntu still lists sda1 and sda2 in /media but none of them access the new partition
[10:57] <hatta> works just like it should
[10:57] <murchadh_bhaba> ??)
[10:57] <Captain_Redbeard> nibi: /etc/fstab
[10:58] <hatta> reminds me of Agent back in the day
[10:58] <nibi> captain_redbeard: windows sees it fine
[10:58] <b0nn>  php-freak: knode
[10:58] <CotRo|eR> murchadh_bhaba: tnx thats what i wanted
[10:58] <nibi> kubuntu still sees two
[10:58] <Captain_Redbeard> nibi: so does Linux i'd say... you just have to set up your /etc/fstab properly to mount the SDx properly
[10:58] <BrianSteffens> nibi: look at it in cfdisk to see more details about those partitions?
[10:58] <murchadh_bhaba> CotRo|eR, Your welcome!
[10:58] <joecoder> I have a backup, but I'm pretty sure that ntfs-3g deleted my home folder in windows xp
[10:59] <_kuja_> nibi, pastebin your /etc/fstab
[10:59] <joecoder> the folder was c:\MyFiles, and I recently renamed it to c:\myfiles, all done in windows xp
[10:59] <murchadh_bhaba> nibi, at a shell type mount
[10:59] <nibi> bear with me but i don't know what /etc/fstab is
[10:59] <joecoder> I booted into kubuntu then back to windows (no filesystem changes in linux), and I now have two empty MyFiles folders in explorer
[10:59] <b0nn> Im trying to upgrade from dapper to edgy, I have got this error invoke-rc.d: initscript hplip, action "start" failed.
[10:59] <_kuja_> !fstab | nibi
[10:59] <ubotu> nibi: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[10:59] <b0nn> dpkg: error processing hplip (--configure):
[10:59] <b0nn>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[10:59] <b0nn> Its because my kubuntu is unbootable
[11:00] <php-freak> !knode
[11:00] <ubotu> knode: KDE news reader. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1195 kB, installed size 2948 kB
[11:00] <Captain_Redbeard> nibi: see? Alot of people wanna be your special someone!! ;D
[11:00] <b0nn> is there a possible workaround?
[11:00] <nibi> thats awesome! first time on this channel
[11:01] <nibi> never got better support for windows
[11:01] <nibi> lol
[11:01] <Captain_Redbeard> nibi: That because Linux is a community driven project ;)
[11:01] <_kuja_> as for the pastebin I referred to nibi ...
[11:01] <_kuja_> !pastebin | nibi
[11:01] <ubotu> nibi: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:03] <Captain_Redbeard> Hmm let's see if I can find that special one too... I'm actually having a bit of a problem myself... Or two actually... but anyway, it seems that nvclock can't identify my nvidia card nor can it read its settings and what it's clocked too... does anyone have any information regarding this?
[11:04] <BrianSteffens> !pastebin
[11:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:04] <b0nn> php-freak: oh and there are curses/commandline usenet readers, like tin and slrn
[11:04] <Captain_Redbeard> actually nothing seems to be able to identify it which causes me a fair amount of problems
[11:04] <_kuja_> Hmm, my nvclock went and disappeared, pity, I had it before I switched over to the 9631 driver ....
[11:05] <nibi> kuja: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38168/
[11:05] <BrianSteffens> captain_redbeard: this is what i got, and i have no idea what it means >_< http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38169/
[11:05] <Captain_Redbeard> _kuja_: same goes for the KDE control center... Graphics card: nv   Driver: nvidia :p
[11:06] <_kuja_> Captain_Redbeard: does nvidia-settings identify it?
[11:06] <Captain_Redbeard> BrianSteffens: well do you have a user called "test" on the system?
[11:06] <BrianSteffens> captain_redbeard nope, do i need to?
[11:06] <Captain_Redbeard> BrianSteffens: Preferably ;)
[11:06] <Captain_Redbeard> _kuja_: yeah
[11:07] <BrianSteffens> captain_redbeard lol ok
[11:07] <DarkWizdom> making k3b takes aaaageeeeesssss
[11:07] <DarkWizdom> 10 mins already O.o
[11:07] <_kuja_> Captain_Redbeard: I would hope that that would be all that mattered, but it sounds like not eh? Did Nvidia not right the nvclock thing?
[11:07] <_kuja_> *write
[11:08] <Captain_Redbeard> _kuja_: well actually the origin of the problem is that I want my card to send to my TV... which it of course doesn't want to... not in Linux nor Windows, or well I'm not really sure how to set it up in windows so nevermind... but I can't get it to work here either
[11:08] <_kuja_> DarkWizdom: it went pretty quick for me ;)
[11:08] <DarkWizdom> what processor you using? :)
[11:08] <Captain_Redbeard> _kuja_: Hmm I don't think so no
[11:08] <DarkWizdom> PIII 1200 here :P
[11:08] <dave_> can somone please help me install some software tha ti downloaded
[11:08] <_kuja_> DarkWizdom: Athlon 64 FX-60
[11:08] <matthew__> dave_, hi,  what can I do for you?
[11:08] <dave_> hey again
[11:08] <DarkWizdom> heheh
[11:09] <matthew__> dave_, did you get your sources.list sorted out?
[11:09] <Captain_Redbeard> BrianSteffens: and then you've got to make sure that the user you are adding have permissions to write to the directory and you should probably add stuff regarding the user to the smb.conf file aswell
[11:09] <dave_> ahh i downloaded flash adn i cant install it!
[11:09] <matthew__> dave_, ok, what have you done so far?
[11:09] <_kuja_> nibi: I see one ntfs partition in your /etc/fstab file
[11:09] <_kuja_> is that what you wanted, or is something up?
[11:09] <Captain_Redbeard> DarkWizdom: go compile wine instead and then complain ;)
[11:09] <dave_> yep all good intelikey just gave me a complete source code
[11:09] <BrianSteffens> captain_redbeard ok thanks
[11:09] <murchadh_bhaba> nibi, Can you tell me what type those (sda1 and sda2) are? I'll try and fix up that /etc/fstab for you.
[11:09] <simen> msn messenfer anyone ?
[11:09] <simen> messenger
[11:09] <DarkWizdom> Captain_Redbeard: :D
[11:10] <matthew__> dave_, cool. So, what have you done so far in regards to flash?
[11:10] <dave_> downloaded it and i cant work out how to start (or what to start it in)
[11:10] <simen> @hotmail ?
[11:10] <_kuja_> Captain_Redbeard: Go run konstruct and then complain ...
[11:10] <nibi> murchadh_bhaba: there's only one, sda1 and its NTFS
[11:10] <matthew__> dave_, have you copied/pasted the .so file into your plugins directory?
[11:10] <Captain_Redbeard> _kuja_: hah! :D
[11:10] <murchadh_bhaba> nibi, Sorry, right!
[11:10] <dave_> ?????ahhh no !!
[11:10] <matthew__> dave_, ok, chill out. It only sounds tough
[11:11] <nibi> murchadh_bhaba: how would you find out the UUID for a partition
[11:11] <simen> MSN MESSENGER ANYONE WHO KNOW ABOUT SKYBOXES SIMEN_99@HOTMAIL.COM PLZ !! :P
[11:11] <matthew__> dave_, it would really help if you just answer yes/no...not all this "aaahhh" garbage.
[11:11] <Captain_Redbeard> simen: hmm, please refer from caps
[11:11] <matthew__> dave_, ok, open up konqueror
[11:11] <simen> caps ?
[11:11] <_kuja_> simen: shhhhhhh, be very quiet, I'm hunting n00bs
[11:11] <dave_> sorry
[11:11] <Captain_Redbeard> simen: and it's better to help you here since then other people might get helped too
[11:11] <simen> lol ok
[11:11] <simen> ok
[11:11] <murchadh_bhaba> !UUID > nibi
[11:11] <matthew__> dave_, ok, open up konqueror
[11:11] <Captain_Redbeard> simen: CAPITAL letter :P
[11:12] <simen> how do i get those cool skyboxes i see on youtube.com :P
[11:12] <BluesKaj> i have a file that refuses to be trashed and i have no need for it ...how can i getrid of it ?
[11:12] <simen> Sorry :P
[11:12] <BrianSteffens> haha@kuja
[11:12] <Captain_Redbeard> BluesKaj: rm filename ???
[11:12] <simen> how do i get those cool skyboxes i see on youtube.com :P
[11:12] <dave_> yep done that bit!
[11:12] <BluesKaj> it's not included with the kubuntu install pkges
[11:12] <simen> so i cant getit ?
[11:13] <Captain_Redbeard> BluesKaj: uh?
[11:13] <BrianSteffens> blueskaj try using rm in console?
[11:13] <Captain_Redbeard> BluesKaj: open a terminal, type rm filename
[11:13] <Captain_Redbeard> BluesKaj: if it still messes with you try rm -f filename
[11:13] <matthew__> dave_, ok, now in the address bar in the top type in /
[11:13] <murchadh_bhaba> nibi, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38170/ use this one! Backup your old one sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bak
[11:13] <simen> plz
[11:13] <ipfw> I'm having trouble with the KDE menu, when I tell it to add a new item it doesn't seem to save
[11:13] <ipfw> anyone seen this ?
[11:13] <BrianSteffens> blueskaj and if it STILL messes with you THROW YOUR COMPUTER OUT THE WINDOW MUHAHA
[11:14] <simen> heha
[11:14] <ipfw> thinking it might be a simple permission error
[11:14] <simen> but skyboxes anyone ?
[11:14] <Captain_Redbeard> simen: skyboxes?
[11:14] <BluesKaj> comedians !
[11:14] <simen> yup ?
[11:14] <matthew__> !plugins > matthew
[11:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about plugins - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:15] <dragonfly7> I am on a really old computer now, running XFCE. I want to install a more useful GUI, so do you guys think that KDE or GNOME is faster?
[11:15] <Captain_Redbeard> simen: never heard anything about any skyboxes, do you mind explaining what it is?
[11:15] <dave_> sorry mathew what am i surposed to be typing in the url bar?
[11:15] <simen> ill give u a link so u can see
[11:15] <DarkWizdom> !skybok
[11:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about skybok - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:15] <BluesKaj> cannot remove ...it's a direcrory
[11:15] <DarkWizdom> !skybox
[11:15] <Captain_Redbeard> dragonfly7: I would recommend fluxbox
[11:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about skybox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:15] <_kuja_> kde and gnome are pretty even in termins of speed, dragonfly7
[11:15] <DarkWizdom> ubotu doesn't know :(
[11:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about doesn't know :( - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:15] <_kuja_> !skydome
[11:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about skydome - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:16] <DarkWizdom> jajaj
[11:16] <nibi> murchadh_bhaba: thanks! i'll give it a try
[11:16] <dave_> ok i think i get it / to get to the directory
[11:16] <BrianSteffens> ubotu doesn't know, now i must find a new religion :(
[11:16] <dragonfly7> Captain_Redbeard: Isn't that even more primitive than XFCE?
[11:16] <matthew__> !flash > matthew
[11:16] <DarkWizdom> :D
[11:16] <_kuja_> BrianSteffens: googlism?
[11:16] <Captain_Redbeard> dragonfly7: I wouldn't say so no...
[11:16] <BrianSteffens> _kuja_ good call!
[11:16] <BluesKaj> ok, how does one remove a directory ?
[11:16] <Captain_Redbeard> dragonfly7: it's very nifty indeed, and very customizable
[11:16] <BrianSteffens> blueskaj rmdir
[11:16] <Captain_Redbeard> BluesKaj: rm -r directoryname
[11:16] <dragonfly7> Captain_Redbeard: To install it could I use "sudo apt-get install fluxbox-desktop"
[11:17] <Captain_Redbeard> dragonfly7: Hmm I'm not sure about the packagename to be honest with you, but it seems likely :)
[11:17] <MalfermitaKodo> ubotu apt
[11:17] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[11:17] <simen> Captain_redbeard : check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGNO2KM3GvA
[11:17] <_kuja_> the package would be fluxbox, not fluxbox-desktop
[11:17] <Captain_Redbeard> !life
[11:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about life - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:18] <dragonfly7> _kuja_: Thanks.
[11:18] <Captain_Redbeard> ./cry
[11:18] <spitwise> anyone ppc users here?
[11:18] <BrianSteffens> haha [14:15]  <ubotu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[11:18] <MalfermitaKodo> ubotu apt-get
[11:18] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[11:18] <simen> Captain check it ! :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGNO2KM3GvA
[11:18] <simen> Captain check it ! :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGNO2KM3GvA
[11:18] <Captain_Redbeard> simen: ah yes
[11:18] <MalfermitaKodo> what was the command to make apt run after it crashed?
[11:19] <Captain_Redbeard> simen: it's XGL... I wouldn't recommend you trying it out though, it is still in development and fairly tricky to get up and running
[11:19] <matthew__> dave_, so sorry, but I've got to go...I'm at work right now.
[11:19] <_kuja_> !adeptfix
[11:19] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[11:19] <dave_> ok thanks
[11:19] <BluesKaj> ok gone..thx BrianSteffens
[11:19] <simen> shiit :P
[11:19] <simen> do u know about any other cool things i can have on my dekstop then ? :P
[11:19] <DarkWizdom> beryl?
[11:20] <Captain_Redbeard> simen: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xgl
[11:20] <rich543> Hi, I have a .tar theme and was wondering how do I install it. (1 day new at this) Can't find a theme loader either
[11:20] <MalfermitaKodo> ty, _kuja_ !
[11:20] <_kuja_> yw
[11:20] <dave_> would anyone else be able to help me with flash?
[11:21] <Captain_Redbeard> Hrmz... upon booting the system... doesn't the BIOS screen usually show up on the telly if it's plugged in to the gfx card?
[11:21] <simen> Captain_Redbeard: Do u know about any cool things for my desktop that is user friendly ? :P
[11:22] <BrianSteffens> ok i know how to chown but how can i add permissions to a single user without changing the owner of that folder/file?
[11:22] <Captain_Redbeard> superkaramba?
[11:22] <simen> whats that ? ^^
[11:23] <dragonfly7> simen: They are desktop widget things, like Yahoo's.
[11:23] <simen> where do i download ?
[11:23] <Captain_Redbeard> simen: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SuperKaramba
[11:23] <Captain_Redbeard> !superkaramba
[11:23] <ubotu> superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org
[11:24] <_kuja_> simen: sudo apt-get install superkaramba
[11:24] <_kuja_> You can find superkaramba applets at kde-look.org
[11:24] <simen> ok
[11:24] <rich543> how do I install a theme thats in a .tar?
[11:25] <_kuja_> open up kcontrol, go to appearance -> themes, should be able to install themes from there, rich543
[11:25] <simen> where do i put the applets ?
[11:25] <_kuja_> simen: wherever you want
[11:25] <simen> k
[11:25] <simen> thanx
[11:26] <rich543> thanks kuja
[11:27] <BluesKaj> I'm making a list of shell commands and I'd like the script for updating the thr kubuntu Distro like the one jende showed me for updating to Edgy from Dapper , ...or is there (K)ubuntu page that has the script ?
[11:27] <_kuja_> whoa, spinning around a tranparent inside beryl-cube is insane
[11:27] <BluesKaj> _kuja_, get a life ! :)
[11:28] <_kuja_> BluesKaj: Are they expensive?
[11:28] <snaker2002> hola alguien espaol?
[11:28] <BluesKaj> depends ..if you have kids and a house and car etc ...it can be
[11:28] <BluesKaj> !es
[11:28] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[11:28] <snaker2002> gracias
[11:29] <Realistic_Dragon> dont suppose anyone here owns a tech company in the US do they? :P
[11:29] <matthew__> Realistic_Dragon, why do you ask?
[11:29] <BrianSteffens> how can i specify a usergroup when using chmod ?
[11:30] <DarkWizdom> it's aliiiiive! k3b works! better than expected! :)
[11:30] <matthew__> BrianSteffens, you can you chown to specify a username
[11:30] <Realistic_Dragon> got another job rejection because of ITAR matthew, need to get out of the defense industry :)
[11:30] <matthew__> ITAR?
[11:30] <matthew__> Realistic_Dragon, ITAR?
[11:30] <BrianSteffens> matthew__ so chown, then chmod to set permission for one person, then do it again for another person?
[11:31] <Realistic_Dragon> information transfer something or other, its restrictions on foreign nationals working on US defense projects :)
[11:31] <matthew__> matthew, naw, chown is to change the owner of the file/dir...chmod sets the permissions for the file/dir
[11:31] <matthew__> BrianSteffens,  naw, chown is to change the owner of the file/dir...chmod sets the permissions for the file/dir
[11:31] <matthew__> BrianSteffens, for all users, I think
[11:32] <matthew__> Realistic_Dragon, ah, that makes sense...
[11:32] <BrianSteffens> matthew__ so there is no way to set permissions different for different users?
[11:32] <CotRo|eR> How do you check whick ports you have opened with iptables or whatever it is???
[11:32] <matthew__> BrianSteffens, you can make the user part of a usergroup, and make the usergroup have certain permissions...
[11:32] <Realistic_Dragon> CotRo|eR: iptables -L
[11:32] <matthew__> CotRo|eR, calm down
[11:33] <Realistic_Dragon> CotRo|eR: might be easier to scan your comp from another machine though with nmap
[11:33] <BrianSteffens> matthew__ yeah that's what i'm asking, how do i specify a usergroup in the chmod command?
[11:33] <CotRo|eR> tnx :)
[11:33] <matthew__> BrianSteffens, not sure...lol, sorry!
[11:34] <BrianSteffens> matthew__ ok thanks anyway
[11:34] <CotRo|eR> Realistic_Dragon: hmm tried that, it only shows chain input, output, etc,
[11:34] <Realistic_Dragon> thats all you get really, you have to infer the rest... or test it
[11:34] <murchadh_bhaba> BrianSteffens, Are you looking for chgrp?
[11:34] <_kuja_> !permission | BrainSteffens
[11:34] <ubotu> BrainSteffens: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[11:35] <Realistic_Dragon> or use something like firestarter which gives more information
[11:35] <_kuja_> I think guarddog is the kde equivalent, but I've never bothered ...
[11:36] <jimbo> I just hit a huge snag.  I have 3000+ files I copied from a windows server to my linux laptop, but I need the files in lowercase, as they're all uppercase.  Is tehre a batch renaming tool available to autorename all these?
[11:36] <Realistic_Dragon> jimbo: you can probably do it with a shell script :)
[11:37] <Realistic_Dragon> http://openchemist.net/linux/howto.php?id=com007
[11:37] <Realistic_Dragon> if you have no backup use that at your own risk
[11:37] <Realistic_Dragon> :P
[11:38] <BrianSteffens> muchadh_bhaba oo maybe i'll google it
[11:38] <_kuja_> jimbo: krename
[11:38] <matthew__> _kuja_, why have a guard dog protecting a castle? lol, you know?
[11:38] <BrianSteffens> _kuja_ yea man spring for the jaguar
[11:38] <statesidela> Can anyone tell me howto get into #ubuntu-xgl i am new to irc
[11:38] <_kuja_> matthew__: maybe it's a three headed guard dog that breaths fire?
[11:38] <statesidela> Please3
[11:39] <jimbo> thanks guys
[11:39] <_kuja_> Stalwart: /j #ubuntu-xgl
[11:39] <_kuja_> oops
[11:39] <_kuja_> statesidela:
[11:39] <_kuja_> meant....... darn
[11:39] <_kuja_> I guess my new toy the tab feature that is isn't case sensitive .... it should be
[11:40] <statesidela> ? you can help me kuja
[11:40] <_kuja_> possibly
[11:40] <ipfw> so, on one else has had issues writing to the KDE menu ?
[11:40] <Stalwart> =P
[11:40] <statesidela> how can i get into #ubuntu-xgl kuja?
[11:41] <BrianSteffens> statesidela /join #ubuntu-xgl?
[11:41] <dave_> is anyone able to help me installing flash?
[11:41] <statesidela> thatnk you Brian
[11:41] <Stalwart> statesidela: use good irc client, konversation is fine for kde
[11:41] <Realistic_Dragon> _kuja_: I know a sysadmin who used to have RM linked as RenaMe on his multiuser machine just to upset people who didnt understand CaSeSeNsItIvE ;)
[11:42] <_kuja_> hahahaha
[11:42] <statesidela> i am using kconvo
[11:42] <rich543> when I try sudo apt-get install SuperKaramba it says 'couldn't find package'
[11:42] <fdoving> rich543: try all lowercase letters.
[11:42] <Stalwart> Realistic_Dragon: http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/archive/mundane-name
[11:43] <_kuja_> Realistic_Dragon: That's just brilliant .... I'd love to do something like that ... but I'm the only user of this machine :(
[11:43] <rich543> all lower case, still the same
[11:43] <_kuja_> rich543: funny, we were just talking about case sensitivity
[11:43] <Realistic_Dragon> slightly evil :P
[11:43] <bLaZeD> anyone know of a good newsgroup client.....so i can veiw and dl off binary newsgroups?
[11:43] <Stalwart> :D
[11:44] <Realistic_Dragon> bLaZeD: I use knode (in kontact) but not for binaries
[11:44] <Realistic_Dragon> lol Stalwart
[11:44] <bLaZeD> Realistic_Dragon, is it capable of doing binarys?
[11:44] <_kuja_> knode?
[11:44] <statesidela> man no one is in #ubuntu-xgl how can i find more help with some beryl troubles?
[11:44] <Realistic_Dragon> actually havent checked sorry bLaZeD i assume so, itll be installed any way so you can try it out :)
[11:44] <bLaZeD> !knode
[11:44] <ubotu> knode: KDE news reader. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1195 kB, installed size 2948 kB
[11:44] <_kuja_> try #beryl
[11:44] <Realistic_Dragon> otherwise try adept for 'news'
[11:44] <statesidela> ty
[11:45] <rich543> not sure what I can do otherwise, tried lowercase to
[11:45] <Realistic_Dragon> !kontact
[11:45] <ubotu> kontact: KDE pim application. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1574 kB, installed size 3400 kB
[11:45] <Realistic_Dragon> oh, thought it was a default install :)
[11:45] <bLaZeD> Realistic_Dragon, ahh k im actualy asking for a freind...maby i can find a free good newsgroup with some sorta binary
[11:45] <bLaZeD> but thanks guys :-)
[11:45] <ironfroggy_LT> how do i give a negated option to find?
[11:45] <_kuja_> rich543: superkaramba is in universe, I think
[11:45] <ironfroggy_LT> for example, im trying to filter out all files that have _darcs in the path
[11:45] <_kuja_> !universe | rich543
[11:45] <ubotu> rich543: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:46] <dennister> hey bLaZeD, _kuja_ :) anyone know how to insert url links in a wiki page real quick? brand new to this :)
[11:46] <Realistic_Dragon> bLaZeD: there are 167 different newsreaders available in the kubuntu repos ;)
[11:46] <BrianSteffens> ok i still don't have write access to my shared folder on server.. i've set up an smb user on the server, added it to group filestorage, chown the shared folder to usergroup filestorage, and chmod to +rwx
[11:46] <_kuja_> 167 ..... jeeze
[11:46] <_kuja_> overkill much?
[11:47] <Realistic_Dragon> !aub
[11:47] <ubotu> aub: Assembles binary files from USENET. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2 (edgy), package size 57 kB, installed size 196 kB
[11:47] <bLaZeD> Realistic_Dragon, hehe my freind is a noob and doesnt even know what distro he is using lol...so im kinda flying blnd here
[11:47] <bLaZeD> :)
[11:47] <Realistic_Dragon> !klibido
[11:47] <ubotu> klibido: usenet binary grabber for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.5-2ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 411 kB, installed size 1336 kB
[11:47] <Realistic_Dragon> try that on
[11:47] <Realistic_Dragon> e
[11:47] <bLaZeD> ahh hthanks!
[11:47] <hudsy> hii!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:47] <_kuja_> hello again
[11:47] <Realistic_Dragon> lol _kuja_ it seems that half of those are emacs modes :D
[11:48] <BrianSteffens> hudsy seems awfully happy lol
[11:48] <hudsy> i have a question.... how to erase a folder with the console??
[11:48] <Stalwart> hudsy: rm -rf
[11:48] <hudsy> ok
[11:48] <_kuja_> or rmdir
[11:48] <hudsy> thanks
[11:48] <Realistic_Dragon> wait!
[11:48] <Realistic_Dragon> thats a nasty comand
[11:48] <hudsy> ...
[11:48] <Stalwart> rm -rf /
[11:49] <Stalwart> =P
[11:49] <Realistic_Dragon> check it before you hit enter
[11:49] <_kuja_> evil
[11:49] <hudsy> a've done rm
[11:49] <Realistic_Dragon> as it deleted with *no* confirmation
[11:49] <hudsy> but it says tat its a dyrectory
[11:49] <_kuja_> Don't do the rm -rf / .... ever
[11:49] <Realistic_Dragon> -rf forces it to ignore that
[11:49] <hudsy> ok
[11:49] <Realistic_Dragon> -r = recursive (into directories)
[11:49] <Realistic_Dragon> and -f is force
[11:50] <dennister> no one edits wiki pages here? i gotta be wrong in that...
[11:50] <_kuja_> rm -r = delete a folder and everything in it, -f forces it to do it with  no questions asked
[11:50] <Realistic_Dragon> its fine to use just be aware of what you are asking it to delete :)
[11:50] <_kuja_> dennister: I've edited one once, but that was weeks ago, and it was only once
[11:50] <Realistic_Dragon> you can use pwd to double check where you are
[11:50] <hudsy> you are the best!!
[11:50] <murchadh_bhaba> dennister, [[whateverlink] ] ?
[11:51] <dennister> ok...i've been avoiding it too :)
[11:51] <soulrider> hi everyone
[11:51] <_kuja_> hi soulrider
[11:51] <BrianSteffens> why is sudo chown brian:brian /media/storage -R doing nothing?
[11:51] <dennister> murchadh_bhaba: so I type the word that will show, then http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=url?
[11:52] <dennister> oh shoot...meant <word showing> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=whateverurl?
[11:52] <dennister> lol...
[11:52] <Pana> lol
[11:53] <murchadh_bhaba> dennister, [[Thiswillshow|http://link.link.link] ] 
[11:53] <dennister> ahhh...thank you! :)
[11:53] <Pana> hey guys
[11:53] <Pana> why do both windows and linux hate me
[11:53] <Pana> :(
[11:53] <dennister> not as much as they hate me, heheheh
[11:53] <BrianSteffens> pana windows hates everyone
[11:54] <shaggs> windows hates me
[11:54] <_kuja_> without discrimination
[11:54] <Pana> true
[11:54] <Pana> so
[11:54] <dennister> that's because we're all pirates :)
[11:54] <Pana> I am an linuckz noob
[11:54] <shaggs> and i hate windows
[11:54] <_kuja_> Arrr
[11:54] <BrianSteffens> pana and linux needs you to romance it a lot before it will like you
[11:54] <shaggs> but it is still necesarry
[11:54] <Pana> I  have had it installed for a while but am only using it now because windows kicked me in the balls
[11:54] <dbglt> hrmm, for what reason are packages 'kept back'? I'm using fiery, and packages like openoffice are kept back when I upgrade. IS there a way to find out why?
[11:55] <Pana> dso
[11:55] <BrianSteffens> !pastebin
[11:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:55] <Pana> how do i install all the multimedia packages
[11:55] <Pana> erm
[11:55] <Pana> like mp3 wmv playback and such
[11:55] <Pana> -_-
[11:55] <_kuja_> Pana: piece of cake
[11:55] <Pana> yea
[11:55] <_kuja_> !multimedia | Pana
[11:55] <ubotu> Pana: For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[11:55] <Pana> piece of coding cake
[11:55] <BrianSteffens> can someone help me figure out what i'm doing wrong? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38171/
[11:55] <_kuja_> !mp3 | Pana
[11:55] <ubotu> Pana: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:55] <Pana> OH GOD
[11:55] <Pana> k
[11:56] <Pana> if linux rapes me
[11:56] <Pana> I blame you
[11:56] <_kuja_> You do that.
[11:57] <Schuenemann> LjL: hey, you told me to ask you for the boot fix :-] 
[11:57] <murchadh_bhaba> BrianSteffens, Try sudo chown -R brian /media/storage
[11:57] <LjL> Schuenemann: right, sure. one moment, i'll grep the logs
[11:58] <BrianSteffens> murchadh_bhaba same thing T_T
[11:58] <Schuenemann> thanks
[11:58] <hudsy> and an other..(excuse me...i do 100000 because i am noob) how to move a file or directory from a folder to an other??
[11:59] <BrianSteffens> murcadh_bhaba hm, just tried sudo mkdir hi and it returned no error but didn't create the directory either
[11:59] <BrianSteffens> hudsy: mv
[11:59] <hudsy> and select the directory??
[12:00] <BrianSteffens> hudsy oh, in konqueror?
[12:00] <hudsy> but it says i havnt permision
[12:00] <Schuenemann> type kdesu konqueror
[12:00] <Schuenemann> then try to move again
[12:00] <LjL> Schuenemann: sudo dosfsck -ar /dev/whatever-the-right-partition-is (the FAT one)
[12:00] <murchadh_bhaba> BrianSteffens, Can you cd to root, and run the commands with full paths, just to be sure. First off let's check current permissions, ls -als /media
[12:01] <fenerbahche> i have difficulties to understand display event, we have x,kdm,kde etc....anybody help me to understand relation it...
[12:01] <Schuenemann> LjL: the partition that has the boot?
[12:01] <LjL> Schuenemann: when it asks, tell it to replace the backup with the original, *unless* it gives you some strange messages, in which case hold
[12:01] <hudsy> failed to open device
[12:01] <Schuenemann> I mean grub installed
[12:01] <hudsy> failed to open device
[12:01] <LjL> Schuenemann: no, just the partition that has a FAT filesystem on it
[12:01] <Schuenemann> the FAT is in another HD
[12:01] <BrianSteffens> murchadh_bhaba: storage comes up as 4 drwxr-xr-x 4 root filestorage
[12:01] <Schuenemann> which isn't the master
[12:02] <murchadh_bhaba> BrianSteffens, Is this a partition on a drive?
[12:03] <Pana> how do i enable multiverse with adept
[12:03] <Pana> it doesnt say in the guide
[12:03] <hudsy> i'm trying to install java but i m desesperated
[12:03] <BrianSteffens> murchadh_bhaba: yes, /dev/hda1 is mounted to /media/storage
[12:03] <hudsy> !!
[12:03] <Schuenemann> LjL: you said copy original to backup?
[12:03] <hudsy> !!
[12:03] <murchadh_bhaba> BrianSteffens, And /ev/hda1 is a type ?
[12:04] <fenerbahche> !kde
[12:04] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[12:04] <BrianSteffens> murchadh_bhaba a type? i don't understand
[12:04] <murchadh_bhaba> BrianSteffens, ntfs, fat32, ext3
[12:04] <VSpike> I'm a long time Outlook user, and I have a lot of contacts, mail and tasks stored in Outlook.  I also have a Pocket PC (Windows) that I need to sync with my PIM. At the moment I am running VMWare w/ WinXP just to use Outlook.  Have I got any chance of migrating?
[12:05] <LjL> Schuenemann: "overwrite the backup with the original", i think it goes
[12:05] <BrianSteffens> murchadh_bhaba: ext3
[12:05] <LjL> i.e., yes, copy original to backup
[12:05] <Schuenemann> sorry, bad english
[12:05] <Pana> ok
[12:05] <Pana> how do i get synaptic instead of adept onto Kubuntu
[12:06] <glglglfkfksaj> Pana, "sudo apt-get install synaptic"
[12:06] <Pana> alright
[12:06] <murchadh_bhaba> BrianSteffens, What options are in /etc/fstab for it?
[12:06] <Schuenemann> it's done, thank you
[12:06] <VSpike> I was thinking about Crossover Office, but I don't think I will be able to sync with the PPC then
[12:06] <BrianSteffens> murchadh_bhaba: defaults, errors=remount-ro
[12:07] <nontitle> Vspike, there should be a program that syncs with the pocketPC
[12:07] <Pana> unable to  get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock open
[12:07] <nontitle> Vspike, just use synaptic or adept and search pocketpc or ppc
[12:07] <VSpike> nontitle: probably not from Outlook running on WINE though
[12:07] <nontitle> ...oh.
[12:07] <VSpike> nontitle: there are some which sync with kmail and/or evolution I think#
[12:08] <nontitle> yeah, thats what i mean
[12:08] <VSpike> nontitle: I have installed them to experiment, although none of them seem to want to work right away without some fiddling
[12:08] <murchadh_bhaba> BrianSteffens, You could try adding umask=000, after defaults. umount the drive, mount the drive, try again.
[12:08] <nontitle> kind of like using gtkpod instead of iTunes
[12:08] <VSpike> nontitle: I'm not sure how easily I can migrate the data to kmail or evolution though
[12:08] <BrianSteffens> murchadh_bhaba: so defaults,umask=000,errors=remount-ro?
[12:08] <nontitle> i'm not sure either
[12:09] <VSpike> I think I can do mail and contacts by going via Thunderbird for windows, which uses an mbox format
[12:09] <nontitle> Pana, you're sure apt isn't running?
[12:09] <hudsy> restart X
[12:09] <murchadh_bhaba> BrianSteffens, Yes, then save it, sudo umount /dev/hda1, sudo mount /dev/hda1, try and create a file or directory.
[12:10] <hudsy> pana: restart X ( ctrl+alt+backspace)
[12:11] <yelonek> !spore
[12:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spore - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:11] <ipfw> what file(s) does kde store its K menu settings in ?
[12:12] <Schuenemann> !k
[12:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about k - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:12] <BrianSteffens> murchadh_bhaba after adding umask=000 the drive appears not to be mounted when i restarted