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minghuahi, I have a question about activating an existent team on LP01:02
minghuathe Debian TeX maintainers list is the maintainer of several TeX packages, so its email is already imported in LP01:02
minghuaat here: https://launchpad.net/people/debian-tex-maint01:03
minghuanow they want to subscribe the bugmails of these packages01:03
minghuabut the confirmation mail didn't seem to go through01:04
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minghuahttp://lists.debian.org/debian-tex-maint/2006/12/msg00518.html01:04
minghuaSo I wonder if this is the correct procedure to activate a team email address on LP01:05
minghuaif I can do anything to help, let me know01:05
minghuathanks in advance01:05
sabdflinteresting question, minghua01:07
sabdfli don't know the exact details, best to ask salgado or kiko01:07
sabdflthey are in UTC -4 iirc01:07
minghuasabdfl: do you think asking on mailing list would be a better idea?01:08
sabdflminghua: yes, go ahead, it's an interesting question01:08
minghuasabdfl: do you happen to know the moderation status of that list (I am not subscribed now)?01:08
sabdflno, 'fraid not01:12
sabdflhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/bazaar-ng01:12
sabdfloops01:12
sabdflwrong list!01:12
sabdflhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/launchpad-users01:13
sabdflminghua: try that one01:13
minghuasabdfl: thanks, I'll hang around a while and if nobody answers I'll mail to list01:14
sabdfli think kiko et al have crashed already today01:15
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mptGooooooooooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders!01:31
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jendagood night, mpt ;)01:52
kikominghua, ping?01:56
minghuakiko: hi!  glad to see you are still here :-)01:57
kikominghua, I'm about to fall azleep01:57
kikobut I saw your request01:57
kikominghua, so what we need to do is rather awkward01:58
kikohold on while I do it, but please don't look.01:59
minghuasure :-)01:59
mdkehe's peeking!02:00
kikominghua, what's your launchpad ID?02:01
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minghuakiko: my LP id is minghua, too02:02
kikominghua, there's one thing i can't do. that is credit your team with the work done by the original person02:04
kikominghua, I'm going to place a request on our DBA to do that02:04
kikothe rest is now done02:04
kikoand you own https://launchpad.net/people/debian-tex-maint/02:04
kikofeel free to edit and update it to your heart's desire02:04
minghuakiko: Thanks a lot!02:06
kikomost welcome02:06
minghuakiko: do you think it's still worthwhile to send a mail to launchpad-users list, if just for documentation purpose?02:07
kikominghua, sure!02:07
minghuawill do02:07
kikoI'll reply to your mail asking stub to clean the attributions up02:10
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kiko-zzznow what was I about to do again...02:10
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minghuahehe02:11
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mptha03:55
mptjamesh, I clicked the link in your Mugshot invite, and got an "Oops!" error page03:56
mptThey've copied our error terminology! :-)03:56
thumperI'm getting an oops by hitting beta.launchpad.net03:57
jameshmpt: does it still OOPS?03:59
jameshmpt: I can try resending the invite04:00
thumperok, gotta ask, what's mugshot?04:01
mptjamesh, it works now04:02
jameshthumper: it is a weird project Red Hat has been working on -- a combination of a web site plus an optional desktop client04:02
jameshthumper: for sharing links and what songs people are listening to04:03
jameshthey've done some interesting things with instant apply forms for the web portion04:03
thumperjamesh: ok04:03
thumperinstant apply forms sounds interesting04:03
jameshas soon as a form field loses focus, it submits it to the server04:04
jameshindependent of the other fields04:04
thumperjamesh: using ajax?04:04
jameshthumper: yeah.04:05
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jameshstub: ping?08:13
stubjamesh: pong08:14
jameshwould it be possible to get the new data for demo.lp.net?08:14
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stubjamesh: It is already done.08:15
jameshbrilliant08:15
stubjamesh: Just need to run the security.py script to set all the permissions08:15
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jameshstu1: thanks.  I've got things up and running again.08:50
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FujitsuAre there screenshots anywhere of the 1.0 UI (or non-OOPS access to beta.)?09:28
mptFujitsu, no09:30
mptbrb09:31
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mptNow, who was that mentioning the 1.0 UI?09:50
FujitsuMe.09:50
mptah, right09:50
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FujitsuApparently :P09:50
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mdkeheh10:04
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carlos_morning10:12
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SteveAhi10:18
jameshSteveA: demo.launchpad.net is up to date, and the Zope specs are imported: https://demo.launchpad.net/zope/+specs10:21
SteveAjamesh: is that all zope specs, or just zope3 specs?10:22
jameshyou can't go to https://blueprints.demo.launchpad.net/zope yet due to DNS issues10:22
jameshSteveA: zope 3 specs10:22
SteveAzope3 and zope are both together, and separate in interesting ways10:22
jameshI've filed an RT request about the DNS10:22
SteveAso, the specs are generally dealt with distinctly10:22
SteveAI wonder if there's a zope3 product series...10:22
SteveAbecuase it would be good if the specs were attached to that series10:23
SteveAhmm10:24
jameshthere are zope3.0, zope3.1, zope3.2 and zope3.3 series at the moment ...10:24
SteveAI'm not sure product series and releases are set up effectively for zope310:24
SteveAif we're going to do this well, specs for zope2 need to be viewable distinctly from specs for zope310:25
jameshare zope2 and zope3 related enough to be series on the same product?10:25
SteveAmaybe10:25
jameshas opposed to products in the same project10:25
SteveAthere are different development communities, with some crossover and the same overall project leadership10:26
jameshas an outsider, it looks more like separate products to me.10:26
SteveAhow does it compare to the situation with apache?10:27
SteveAI'd expect with apache to have different specs and a different audience of developers between apache 1 and apache 210:27
SteveApragmatically with launchpad as it is, different products may work better10:27
jameshwell, apache 1.x has pretty much been abandoned by the developers10:28
SteveAbut the correct modeling would seem to me to be a zope 2.x series and a zope 3.x series10:28
SteveAwith releases within these series10:28
SteveAare there any other examples that fit this?10:29
jameshI suppose Gnome 1.x vs. 2.x is slightly similar10:29
jameshalthough the 2.x code base evolved from the 1.x code base, rather than being a rewrite10:30
SteveAat this point, I don't know what to do10:32
SteveAI do know that it will be confusing to have bugs and specs for zope2 and zope3 mixed together10:33
SteveAit's important that these are browseable, searchable and fileable separately10:33
jameshthat's partly why I was leaning towards two products in the same project10:33
SteveAit's important that a bug is targetable distinctly to zope3 and zope210:33
jameshwhich lets you search bugs separately or together10:33
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SteveAso, it sounds to me like we should use product series, but the product series support in launchpad is not mature enough to meet the zope project's needs10:34
jameshand the fact that the zope guys might want to target zope3 bugs to different 3.x branches10:34
FujitsuSounds like you need another level in the hierarchy...10:36
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matthewrevelljamesh: ping10:49
jameshmatthewrevell: pong10:51
matthewrevelljamesh: Howdy. Do you have time today to talk about the process of migrating a project to Launchpad?10:51
jameshmatthewrevell: sure.  Is now okay for you?10:52
matthewrevelljamesh: Yes, that's great. How do you want to do it? Skype? IRC?10:52
jameshlets do skype10:52
matthewrevellcool. I'm, predictably, matthewrevell10:53
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cprovgood morning11:56
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staticgooooooooooooooooood morning launchpad01:24
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kikohello freaknode!01:41
FujitsuHi kiko.01:42
kikoFujitsu!01:42
kikomy god, what happened to my inbox01:42
FujitsuSpam, or innocent mail?01:43
UbugtuNew bug: #76322 in malone "Should be possible to specify package in Launchpad advanced bug search" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7632201:46
kikoisn't that possible already?01:46
kikoFujitsu, well, both01:46
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kikodanilos, carlos, ping?01:52
daniloshey kiko01:52
UbugtuNew bug: #76591 in soyuz "Verify binary existence before linkify package-relationship on BinaryPackageRelease page" [Low,In progress]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7659101:55
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LaibschHi, how can I add the information to Malone that UIM uses https://bugs.freedesktop.org/ as their bug tracker? -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/products/uim/02:08
kikoLaibsch, visit +launchpad on that product02:08
kikoand update the bug tracker02:08
carloskiko: pong02:10
Laibschkiko: you mean https://bugs.launchpad.net/products/uim/+launchpad ?02:12
LaibschSeems like I don't have sufficient permission02:12
kikoLaibsch, oh, you don't own that product? one sec.02:13
kikoLaibsch, done.02:14
LaibschThanks, kiko.02:14
kikomost welcome02:15
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UbugtuNew bug: #76476 in launchpad-bazaar "stuff you can get with bzr" [Critical,In progress]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7647603:25
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bersacehi all03:39
bersaceit would be very nice if rosetta allow developer to download translation including proposal03:40
bersaceproposal/suggestions03:40
bersacejust by checking a checkbox03:41
matsubarabersace: I believe you're looking for bug 7097403:42
UbugtuMalone bug 70974 in rosetta "mo download without --use-fuzzy option" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7097403:42
bersacematsubara: thanks03:43
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bersacebug 103:49
UbugtuMalone bug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/1 - Assigned to Mark Shuttleworth (sabdfl)03:49
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UbugtuNew bug: #76427 in launchpad-bazaar "cannot record the last sync time of published vcs-imports branch" [High,In progress]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7642703:55
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UbugtuNew bug: #76604 in malone "Indentation isn't preserved for patches" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7660404:20
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AmaranthI'm a member of the compizsettingsteam team and have my ssh keys registered with launchpad (and have used them with launchpad in the past) but when I try to do 'bzr push sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~compizsettingsteam/compizsettings/trunk' I get 'Permission denied (publickey).'05:40
kikoddaa, matsubara: can you give Amaranth a hand?05:42
kikothat's a bit odd05:42
ddaaThat's typical05:42
ddaamy last FiF patch will help people with this05:43
Amaranthis this a bug or am i doing something stupid? :)05:43
ddaaAmaranth: what is your person page on launchpad?05:43
Amaranthhttps://launchpad.net/people/amaranth05:43
ddaatry this:05:43
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ddaabzr checkout sftp://amaranth@bazaar.launchpad.net/~compizsettingsteam/compizsettings/trunk compizsettings-trunk05:44
Amaranthoh05:45
Amaranthmy ssh key has travis as the user05:45
Amaranth*facepalm*05:45
ddaaAmaranth: a lot of people get confused by this05:46
ddaaI have a patch out that gives people the URL _they_ should use with sftp on launchpad.05:46
ddaaand some other helpful tips05:46
kikocool05:46
Amaranthalright, seems to be working now05:48
Amaranththanks05:48
kikothanks ddaa 05:49
ddaaAmaranth: you should also use a checkout instead of pushing05:49
Amaranthwhy is that?05:49
ddaait's better form with a multi-comitter branch05:50
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Amaranthah, alright05:50
ddaaso you cannot change the revno of revisions on the common branch.05:50
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elmowhy does the new guided bug report stuff always dump me half way down the page when showing me "similar" bugs?06:20
salgadoelmo, I guess it's because it automatically focus one of the text widgets06:20
salgadojust guessing, though, since I haven't used it yet06:21
elmohmm, well, it's very confusing06:21
salgadoI think I spotted this on the guided file ticket form and flacoste fixed it, but looks like nobody noticed it on the guided filebug06:22
salgadoelmo, can you file a bug about it?06:23
elmook06:23
ddaaprobably something having to do with the focus in the form input06:25
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daniloskiko: 30 mins before the phonecall (just a reminder :)06:32
elmook, done as bug 7661906:37
UbugtuMalone bug 76619 in launchpad "guided bug report filing often dumps me into the middle of the next page" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7661906:37
UbugtuNew bug: #76619 in launchpad "guided bug report filing often dumps me into the middle of the next page" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7661906:45
matsubarathe guided form is currently broken on rocketfuel06:46
kikomatsubara, let's make sure we are don't roll it out them! how can it be broken -- no test?06:47
matsubarakiko: probably. I checking why right now.06:47
kikothere is a test for it I'm sure which is why I'm asking06:48
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UbugtuNew bug: #76620 in launchpad "RFE: Ability to restrict poll voting to members of a team" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7662007:01
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staticfor the launchpad meeting tomorrow, are there certain things that I should have prepared ahead of time?09:31
salgadostatic, only your three sentences09:31
staticsalgado: ok, thanks09:32
thumperstatic: tomorrow? we'll I guess 1am is really considered tomorrow :-)09:33
static:)09:33
thumperno sleep between now and then for me though09:34
staticthumper: 7am for me, I guess we are on opposite sides of the planet09:34
thumperalmost: I am 12 hours different from SteveA and ddaa though09:35
ddaahey thumper09:35
thumpermorning ddaa09:36
thumper:)09:36
ddaaSo, about "list of product with bzr" thing09:36
thumperyep09:36
ddaaI'm keeping the bug, and will try to do it early Jan.09:36
thumperok09:36
ddaaIf there is something preventing me to, I'll hand it over to you.09:36
thumperok09:36
thumperddaa, what are the relevant bugs, and I'll subscribe09:37
ddaahttps://launchpad.net/products/launchpad-bazaar/+bug/7647609:37
UbugtuMalone bug 76476 in launchpad-bazaar "stuff you can get with bzr" [High,In progress]   - Assigned to David Allouche (ddaa)09:37
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UbugtuNew bug: #76651 in malone "Malone insists on setting importance, forgets entered text" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7665110:11
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