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coNP | Is bug #75659 a bug or a support request, what do you think? | 12:40 |
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ivoks | bug 75659 | 01:11 |
ivoks | ubotu: ? | 01:11 |
ivoks | :) | 01:11 |
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enkrates794 | Could 75659 be a feature request? | 01:31 |
Burgwork | enkrates794: wishlist | 01:34 |
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Seveas | @reload Bugtrackr | 02:24 |
Seveas | @reload Bugtracker | 02:24 |
Seveas | hmm... | 02:24 |
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orion2012 | does anyone have any suggestions for handling bug 46898? | 03:14 |
orion2012 | err #46898 | 03:14 |
orion2012 | oh, ubugtu, come back! | 03:14 |
orion2012 | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/46898 | 03:14 |
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palski | shouldn't it be hug day today? | 10:01 |
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dholbach | good morning | 10:24 |
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dholbach | IS IT THE HUG DAY? | 10:34 |
seb128 | dholbach: LOOKS LIKE IT YEP :) | 10:35 |
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dholbach | hey ivoks | 10:37 |
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Seveas | @config channel plugins.bugtracker.bugreporter | 11:32 |
Ubugtu | ubuntu | 11:32 |
Seveas | @config channel plugins.bugtracker.bugreporter ubuntu-bugs | 11:33 |
Seveas | @config channel plugins.bugtracker.bugreporter ubuntu-bugs | 11:33 |
Seveas | (almost back to life | 11:33 |
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dholbach | hehe... thanks a lot! :) | 11:37 |
Seveas | had to rework the bugreporting thing | 11:42 |
Seveas | it's now using imap instead of using the maildir directly | 11:42 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #72754 in bittornado (main) "Please merge from debian/unstable (overwrite ok)" [Undecided,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/72754 | 11:45 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #74837 in pysvn (universe) "sync request" [Undecided,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74837 | 11:45 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76573 in ttf-dustin (universe) "please sync ttf-dustin 20030517-4 from debian sid" [Undecided,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76573 | 11:45 |
Seveas | \o/ | 11:46 |
mc44 | yay! | 11:46 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #76575 in moin (main) "Please sync from debian/unstable (overwrite ok)" [Undecided,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76575 | 11:52 |
Seveas | it still has a bit of backlog | 11:53 |
ajmitch | few hundred bugs? | 11:53 |
Seveas | yeah | 11:53 |
Seveas | about 200 | 11:53 |
mc44 | flood the channel :) | 11:53 |
Seveas | basically all bugs filed yesterday | 11:53 |
Seveas | well, I should say 'in the past 30-ish hours' | 11:54 |
Seveas | but it's a lot more robust now :) | 11:54 |
Seveas | And I'm no longer abusing a friends domain for mailaddresses | 11:55 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76485 in f-spot (main) "Please sync f-spot (main) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76485 | 11:55 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76578 in base-files (main) "custom /etc/motd doesn't get installed." [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76578 | 11:55 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #76579 in abuse-sdl (universe) "instructions on first screen don't make sense" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76579 | 12:06 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76580 in python-xml (main) "Please sync from debian/unstable (overwrite ok)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76580 | 12:06 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76581 in xfce4-xkb-plugin (main) "SRU: xfce4-xkb-plugin in edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76581 | 12:06 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #76390 in emerald "Emerald Theme Manager just crashed, I am not sure about what I did." [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76390 | 12:11 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76563 in Ubuntu "[Feisty 7.04] gnome-panel-screenshot don't save anymore" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76563 | 12:11 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76582 in udev (main) "[feisty] udev boot message on lowlatency kernels, udevd[3692] : lookup_group: specified group 'nvram' unknown." [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76582 | 12:11 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76548 in Ubuntu "Beryl-Core crashes on start" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76548 | 12:15 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #76455 in beryl-core "Beryl crashes on startup" [Undecided,Rejected] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76455 | 12:30 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #76583 in xfonts-baekmuk (universe) "Please sync xfonts-baekmuk (Universe) from Debian" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76583 | 12:40 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76584 in Ubuntu "Nforce 680i SLI network forcedeth problem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76584 | 12:45 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76585 in telepathy-gabble (universe) "Please sync telepathy-gabble (Universe) from Debian" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76585 | 12:50 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #76437 in glibc (main) "libc6 core-dumped" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76437 | 01:05 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76498 in configure-debian (universe) "[Merge] configure-debian 1.0.2ubuntu1" [Wishlist,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76498 | 01:05 |
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Ornedan | G'day. Does anyone know who I have to yell at to get bug 68380 fixed? It's merely a showstopped bug that's been unfixed for two months | 01:08 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 68380 in eclipse "[SRU] eclipse for edgy-updates" [Medium,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/68380 | 01:08 |
Ornedan | Make that 68053 | 01:08 |
seb128 | bug #68053 | 01:10 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 68053 in azureus "Eclipse will not start (Edgy)" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/68053 | 01:10 |
Ornedan | It's especially bad since there seems to be a fix, but the repository packages haven't been fixed | 01:10 |
seb128 | Ornedan: maybe ask on #ubuntu-motu, that's universe and non-supported officially, depends on MOTU | 01:11 |
ajmitch | it looks like it's just waiting to be uploaded to edgy-proposed, if it hasn't already been | 01:12 |
Ornedan | Ugh. Anally following good release practice now, but not when originally shoving out the broken packages at about the same time Edgy testing ended | 01:13 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #76587 in audacity (universe) "audacity crashes at record" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76587 | 01:30 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76588 in audacity (universe) "please clean sound system before run" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76588 | 01:36 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76589 in libnotify (main) "Please sync from debian/unstable (overwrite ok)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76589 | 01:46 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76590 in gaphor (universe) "Please sync gaphor (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76590 | 01:51 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76594 in firefox (main) "firefox crashed on gmail" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76594 | 02:00 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76595 in gworkspace (universe) "Please sync gworkspace (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76595 | 02:00 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #76593 in acpi-support (main) "asus brightness hotkeys" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76593 | 02:01 |
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cypher1_ | sfllaw: hi is the request for ubuntu-qa started | 02:04 |
Laibsch | Hi, how can I add the information to Malone that UIM uses https://bugs.freedesktop.org/ as their bug tracker? -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/products/uim/ | 02:05 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76529 in firefox (main) "Installing a extension (adblockPlus) and firefox close." [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76529 | 02:06 |
Adri2000 | Laibsch: maybe ask in #launchpad | 02:07 |
Laibsch | thanks, Adri2000 | 02:08 |
dholbach | Laibsch: I don't hink that's needed - you can just click on "+ Upstream" link and supply the link for the upstream bug | 02:08 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #76596 in Ubuntu "Gnome desktop lost windows border and other features" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76596 | 02:15 |
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gnomefreak | i kind of like that feature better but i dont like the new bug report helper | 02:21 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #76597 in xmms (main) "xmms crashes when reading id3 tag of certain mp3 files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76597 | 02:40 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #76353 in xffm-icons (universe) "xffm-icons crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76353 | 02:46 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #76549 in gnome-doc-utils (main) "gnome-doc-prepare can't create new docs" [Medium,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76549 | 02:51 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76598 in Ubuntu "cdrom not detected in feisty daily 19-12-2006" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76598 | 02:51 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76562 in gnome-doc-utils (main) "newly created documentation isn't valid" [Medium,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76562 | 02:52 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #76388 in metacity (main) "windows don't move across workspaces" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76388 | 02:55 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76599 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Feisty: zydas 1211 USB device soft lockup on CPU#0" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76599 | 02:55 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #76559 in rhythmbox (main) "Rhythmbox hangs after burning a CD from a playlist" [Medium,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76559 | 03:00 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #76419 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "gdb makes kernel oups" [High,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76419 | 03:25 |
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robepisc | hi all | 03:32 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #76490 in egnome (universe) "This package isnt installable" [Medium,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76490 | 03:41 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76600 in rhythmbox (main) "Move music files on import" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76600 | 03:41 |
sfllaw | cypher1_: Hi! | 03:46 |
cypher1_ | sfllaw: hi! | 03:46 |
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sfllaw | cypher1_: Have you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuQA? | 03:48 |
cypher1_ | sfllaw: sorry no.. let me read it | 03:49 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #76602 in dcraw (universe) "Please sync dcraw (main) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76602 | 03:51 |
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chantra | hi there, has anybody checked that bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/python-defaults/+bug/74956 | 04:01 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 74956 in python-defaults "[Feisty] Can't import python module" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 04:01 |
chantra | some python modules fails to import | 04:02 |
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sfllaw | chantra: Looking. | 04:05 |
sfllaw | chantra: Please don't flip the status to Confirmed unless you're triaging it. | 04:07 |
sfllaw | chantra: You can learn the proper steps to traiging by reading the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage page. | 04:09 |
chantra | sfllaw: I actually meant to triage it as confirmed | 04:11 |
chantra | should not have I? | 04:11 |
sfllaw | Hmm, in which case, you should have unassigned doko. | 04:11 |
chantra | okie I'm unassigning him then | 04:12 |
sfllaw | chantra: Good good. | 04:12 |
sfllaw | chantra: You wouldn't want to force him to do the work. | 04:12 |
chantra | sfllaw: it seems that he assigned himself though | 04:13 |
chantra | I didn't I just wanted to confirm the bug :) | 04:13 |
sfllaw | Didn't he assign himself for triaging purposes? | 04:14 |
sfllaw | It looks like it. | 04:14 |
chantra | don't know, when I triaged the bug, it was still unconfirmed or maybe under need info | 04:15 |
chantra | but I could confirm it | 04:15 |
sfllaw | Sure. Confirm and unassign. You can see who did what in the Activity Log. | 04:16 |
chantra | okie dokie, gonna check | 04:16 |
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sfllaw | bddebian: Barry! | 04:16 |
bddebian | Hi sfllaw | 04:17 |
chantra | sfllaw: did you put it back to need info? | 04:17 |
sfllaw | chantra: I had. | 04:18 |
chantra | cause, checking at the activity log, I've turned it back to confirmed | 04:18 |
chantra | when I wanted to unassign it | 04:18 |
sfllaw | All right. | 04:19 |
chantra | so, should this bug be confirmed or not | 04:19 |
sfllaw | It can be. | 04:19 |
chantra | sfllaw: when I wanted to unassign it, my browser was still on the "confirm" window | 04:19 |
sfllaw | I was just going to let doko confirm it. | 04:19 |
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sfllaw | But it seems that you've answered the real question. | 04:20 |
chantra | sfllaw: doko didn't seem to be much active on this one since 8 december | 04:20 |
sfllaw | chantra: Yes, I see that. | 04:21 |
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sfllaw | chantra: It's fine for you to Confirm and Unassign. | 04:21 |
chantra | okie dokie, I'm quite new in bug triaging, so let me know when I do something wrong ;) | 04:21 |
sfllaw | chantra: Cool. Thanks! | 04:22 |
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coNP | I faced some difficulties triaging bug 75570 | 04:22 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 75570 in Ubuntu "Skype not in edgy-commercial" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/75570 | 04:22 |
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coNP | I tought it was not a real bug, but a support request, however I got corrected | 04:23 |
dsas | oh, today is wednesday, didn't realise. | 04:23 |
coNP | do you think I should confirm it now (since there is really no skype package in edgy-commercial), or set it to "needs info" (since I am still not sure that upgrading really breaks this package) | 04:23 |
sfllaw | coNP: Hmm. I have to think about this. | 04:25 |
sfllaw | coNP: See, dapper-commercial and edgy-commercial aren't really run by the community. | 04:25 |
sfllaw | coNP: They are run by Canonical Ltd. itself. | 04:25 |
coNP | sfllaw: that's why i rejected the bug first | 04:25 |
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sfllaw | coNP: Let me check with some people. | 04:27 |
coNP | sfllaw: thanks :) | 04:28 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #76499 in gnome-power-manager (main) "Spelling mistake in Brightness and Inhibit applets" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76499 | 04:35 |
bdmurray | Bug 76600 seems to be a feature request to me, but look at the canned responses I am not sure if the "feature request" canned response or the "changing defaults" response is more appropriate. | 04:39 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 76600 in rhythmbox "Move music files on import" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76600 | 04:39 |
sfllaw | bdmurray: That's totally a feature request. | 04:40 |
sfllaw | bdmurray: It doesn't have this behaviour, so there is no default to change. | 04:40 |
sfllaw | bdmurray: The CD ripping isn't similar enough. | 04:40 |
bdmurray | Okay. Is a spec the right way for the user to go or would they be more successful with the rhythmbox project itself? | 04:42 |
sfllaw | Likely rhythmbox itself. | 04:42 |
sfllaw | I think we might need a new canned response. | 04:42 |
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sfllaw | coNP: I talked with EtienneG about this bug. And we've decided that it should be rejected since it isn't an Ubuntu problem. | 04:42 |
coNP | sfllaw: then should I reject it again? and state that it is a package that does not belong among the supported ubuntu ones? | 04:44 |
coNP | sfllaw: thanks, I noticed you did it | 04:44 |
sfllaw | coNP: Yeah. It's not that we don't support it. It's that we CANNOT. | 04:45 |
sfllaw | Thanks for bringing it to my attention. | 04:45 |
bdmurray | sfllaw: If the response to a bug is "feature request" should it's status be "rejected"? | 04:46 |
coNP | sfllaw: Sorry, maybe a stupid question. How do you mean "we CANNOT"? | 04:46 |
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sfllaw | coNP: There's no way we can upload to the -commercial repositories. | 04:47 |
sfllaw | coNP: They're not Ubuntu. | 04:47 |
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sfllaw | bdmurray: Yes, Rejected is correct. | 04:47 |
robepisc | hi all, I'm new here and have some questions | 04:48 |
sfllaw | robepisc: Welcome! | 04:48 |
robepisc | sfllaw: thanks :-) | 04:48 |
robepisc | I just joined the bugsquad team in LP: my request is pending for apporval. | 04:50 |
robepisc | First question: are there requisites I should have in order to join the bugsquad team? If not (as I evince from reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad), why the an approval is required? | 04:52 |
cypher1_ | sfllaw: sorry was away.. i have done some triaging and merging until recently.. will i qualify for the ubuntu-qa ? | 04:52 |
sfllaw | cypher1_: You have to answer the three points listed on that page. | 04:53 |
sfllaw | robepisc: That is a good question. It basically lets us expire old subscriptions automatically. | 04:54 |
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robepisc | sfllaw: Ok. I've just seen the approvation mail in my inbox. Wow, I'm in the BugSquad :-) | 04:57 |
coNP | robepisc: welcome aboard :) | 04:58 |
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robepisc | thanks you all :-) | 04:58 |
sfllaw | cypher1_: Could you answer them here, or in a /query? | 04:59 |
robepisc | Another thing it's not clear to me. What can I do now that I couldn't before? | 04:59 |
cypher1_ | sfllaw: yes | 04:59 |
bdmurray | sfllaw: I am unsure about how to proceed with bug 75509. I have confirmed it in Edgy and want to mark it as confirmed but I am not sure which package it effects and to whom to assign it. | 04:59 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 75509 in Ubuntu "All runlevels use X; singe user mode broken" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/75509 | 04:59 |
sfllaw | robepisc: There are no material benefits to joining BugSquad. You get extra permissions with joining ubuntu-qa. | 04:59 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76466 in Ubuntu "Timezone offset not working (Ubuntu 6.06 ppc)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76466 | 05:00 |
sfllaw | bdmurray: Unngh. It's two reports in one. | 05:01 |
sfllaw | bdmurray: For the one you've seen, hitting Alt-Left doesn't switch VTs either? | 05:02 |
sfllaw | Nor plain Alt-F1? | 05:02 |
sfllaw | In which case, that is a bug in linux-source-2.6.17. | 05:03 |
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sfllaw | The kernel handles VT switching. | 05:03 |
sfllaw | Although it could be that your video modules have hijacked it. | 05:03 |
bdmurray | sfllaw: I haven't tried both of those but can shortly. | 05:03 |
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bdmurray | sfllaw: neither Alt-F1 nor Alt-Left Arrow allowed me to switch VTs. | 05:09 |
sfllaw | Yeah, sounds like a kernel bug. | 05:09 |
sfllaw | What video driver do you use? | 05:09 |
bdmurray | probably radeon on that system, I need to reboot to confirm | 05:10 |
sfllaw | bdmurray: Try without the radeon kernel module and using the vesa X driver. | 05:11 |
sfllaw | That way, you'll be able to narrow it down. | 05:11 |
sfllaw | But radeon is free, so it is a linux-source-2.6.17 bug. | 05:11 |
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cypher1 | any one has a ati rage128 card ? | 05:21 |
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robepisc | I have a pair of bugs I've been working on for some time: #59618 and #62868. | 05:26 |
dholbach | whooo, happy hug day! :-) | 05:26 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76386 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "OOPS, seemingly when loading ath_pci" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76386 | 05:26 |
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robepisc | I now have 2 fixes for them, and would like a core developer had a look. | 05:26 |
bddebian | Crap, today is hug day? :-( | 05:26 |
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sfllaw | bddebian: Yup. | 05:26 |
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sfllaw | robepisc: Neato! | 05:27 |
bddebian | Eeks, I've been trying to keep up with merges and REVU.. Sheesh :) | 05:27 |
sfllaw | The community is getting big! | 05:29 |
robepisc | #62868 in particular doesn't have a priority. It turned out to be a casper_actually_works_for_accident kind of bugs, so I think it should be high priority. | 05:30 |
sfllaw | robepisc: You will want rodarvus to take a look at bug 59618. | 05:30 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 59618 in xorg ""Safe graphics mode" doesn't use VESA" [High,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/59618 | 05:30 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76605 in vlc (universe) "Crashes on dvd navigation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76605 | 05:31 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76606 in firefox (main) "Update Firefox to 2.0.0.1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76606 | 05:31 |
coNP | dholbach, may I msg you? | 05:31 |
sfllaw | robepisc: For bug 62868, it's probably best to find tfheen or cjwatson online. | 05:32 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 62868 in casper "swap partitions not automounted by the LiveCD" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/62868 | 05:32 |
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sfllaw | robepisc: I'm a little suspicious about using $PATH for initramfs scripts, and would rather they just specify absolute paths. | 05:32 |
sfllaw | But that would be something to discuss with them. | 05:32 |
dholbach | coNP: sure | 05:33 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #76608 in firefox (main) "Crash when opening a bookmark via del.ico.us" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76608 | 05:36 |
robepisc | sfllaw: ok. thanks for looking at those bugs! I'll ping rodarvus and tollef/colin | 05:36 |
sfllaw | robepisc: Excellent! | 05:36 |
sfllaw | I think rodarvus will take your patch. | 05:37 |
sfllaw | It looks very sane. | 05:37 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #76609 in linux-source-2.6.15 (main) "Reboot fails on a MSI MS-7005 (651M-L) mainboard" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76609 | 05:40 |
mc44 | sfllaw: should I assign a bug for a request for the new security update of firefox to someone? I guess they will get to it anyway | 05:40 |
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sfllaw | mc44: They will. | 05:44 |
sfllaw | Especially if the Security Team is subscribed. | 05:44 |
mc44 | sfllaw: ah I shall subscribe the security team then | 05:45 |
keescook | mc44: just toggling the security flag will subscribe the security team. :) | 05:45 |
sfllaw | It's true! | 05:45 |
mc44 | keescook: magic! now fix it :p | 05:46 |
keescook | mc44: heh. must review, test, etc. :) | 05:46 |
keescook | it's on the list, no worries. | 05:46 |
mc44 | keescook: of course :) | 05:47 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #76610 in gnome-panel (main) "Bookmarks don't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76610 | 05:50 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #76611 in gimp (main) "Configuring input devices dialog hangs after user input" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76611 | 05:56 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76612 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "No Audio after latest 686 kernel upgrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76612 | 05:56 |
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chris__ | hey bug catchers - how long should a bug sit with status "Needs Info", without a reply, before rejecting it? | 06:06 |
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dholbach | chris__: I usually wait a month | 06:09 |
dholbach | chris__: then reject it with an answer from http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses | 06:09 |
chris__ | dholbach: ok, that sounds about right. | 06:09 |
dholbach | Ok cool. | 06:10 |
chris__ | dholbach: thanks | 06:10 |
dholbach | I have a query for desktop-bugs displaying "Needs Info" bugs sorted by "Oldest first" and I try to look through them regularly | 06:10 |
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dholbach | hey cassidy - happy hug day! | 06:13 |
cassidy | thanks dholbach ! you too :) | 06:14 |
xeruno | there's a lot of firefox crashes.... reported recently or its always the same? | 06:14 |
cassidy | i start my bug day by reporting a crash in telepathy-gabble :) | 06:14 |
dholbach | cassidy: ahh alrighty :-) | 06:14 |
cassidy | zdra convince me to try gossip-tl | 06:14 |
dholbach | nice :) | 06:15 |
cassidy | and of course it crashs at startup :D | 06:15 |
dholbach | strange, not for me | 06:15 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76496 in koctave (universe) "koctave does not starts" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76496 | 06:15 |
cassidy | not fun if all work of course :p | 06:15 |
xeruno | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/76509 Setting it to NeedInfo + Standard response | 06:16 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 76509 in firefox "crash at searching for java plugin" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 06:16 |
cassidy | dholbach: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9406 | 06:20 |
Ubugtu | Freedesktop bug 9406 in telepathy-gabble "Gabble crashs when trying to connect using gossip" [Major,New] | 06:20 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76613 in apt (main) "apt-get remove shows the package being removed as being able to be autoremoved" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76613 | 06:20 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76614 in ubiquity (main) "yaboot installer crashes while installing to iPod via Firewire " [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76614 | 06:20 |
mc44 | in feisty ifup reports "wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device", is this something the kernel is in charge of? | 06:21 |
dholbach | cassidy: thanks, you rock! | 06:21 |
cassidy | thanks for dbgsym packages :) | 06:22 |
mc44 | or should I file it against ifupdown? | 06:25 |
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bddebian | Do we have a "policy" on adding .desktop files now? | 06:30 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76509 in firefox (main) "crash at searching for java plugin" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76509 | 06:30 |
palski | sfllaw: ping | 06:36 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76617 in ubiquity (main) "installer has no option to skip grub install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76617 | 06:40 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76618 in xterm (main) "Contents LD_LIBRARY_PATH cleared by xterm" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76618 | 06:41 |
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sfllaw | palski: Pong. | 06:51 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76449 in rhythmbox "Cannot sort static playlists" [Unknown,Unknown] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76449 | 06:56 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #76621 in ubiquity (main) "installer does not properly recognize graphics card or monitor" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76621 | 07:06 |
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predius_ | sfllaw: aren't we in the middle of the interviews? | 07:08 |
sfllaw | predius_: Interviews? | 07:08 |
sfllaw | predius_: For Ubuntu QA you mean? | 07:08 |
predius_ | Yeah. | 07:09 |
sfllaw | predius_: Indeed we are. | 07:09 |
predius_ | sfllaw: and no one has shown up? | 07:09 |
sfllaw | One person has. | 07:09 |
sfllaw | And you're number two. | 07:09 |
predius_ | sfllaw: how can I get a list of the bugs I have triaged? | 07:10 |
palski | sfllaw: and I was goingto to :) | 07:10 |
sfllaw | predius_: You sort of have to keep track. :) | 07:11 |
sfllaw | predius_: You aren't triaging any bugs right now, are you? | 07:11 |
sfllaw | palski: Hurray! | 07:12 |
predius_ | haven't in a couple of weeks. | 07:12 |
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sfllaw | predius_: I looked through Google and see you've done lots of support requests. | 07:14 |
predius_ | had some free time. | 07:14 |
predius_ | sfllaw: i also have a smallpackage in universe | 07:16 |
sfllaw | predius_: Nice. Well, maybe you could do some bug triaging today? | 07:16 |
xeruno | sfllaw, Hi I came today for the interview too ;) | 07:19 |
sfllaw | palski, xeruno: Did you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuQA? | 07:19 |
sfllaw | If so, you can just start sending me answers. | 07:20 |
xeruno | sfllaw, I have.. :) | 07:21 |
xeruno | but there are not question there :P | 07:22 |
sfllaw | xeruno: Well, you have to demonstrate three things. | 07:22 |
palski | sfllaw: do you mind if I query you? | 07:24 |
sfllaw | palski: Nope. | 07:24 |
xeruno | sfllaw, I am not sure if I fit... or if I have enough experience :S but I will try to do pass the test :) | 07:25 |
sfllaw | xeruno: Great! | 07:26 |
palski | oh, I'm not registered user on freenode so i is not possible :) | 07:27 |
palski | sfllaw: answers: 1) sure 2) I've read those 3) 71967 68442 46050 73394 72246 72026 | 07:27 |
xeruno | how i get my list of bugs? | 07:27 |
sfllaw | xeruno: Look on your people page and click the Bugs link in the left sidebar. | 07:28 |
xeruno | ok I was reading my karma :P | 07:28 |
xeruno | but I never assing bugs to me :S | 07:29 |
xeruno | I just cc it :/ | 07:29 |
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bdmurray | sfllaw: The wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/CommonTasks refers to a "reasonable stage" when closing a Needs Info bug. Is there a time period that is commonly used for reasonable? | 07:30 |
sfllaw | bdmurray: About a month or so. | 07:31 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76623 in gnome-screensaver (main) "default screensaver cumbersome on old hardware" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76623 | 07:31 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76624 in webmin (universe) "why was webmin dropped?" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76624 | 07:31 |
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sfllaw | bdmurray: If you cannot get in contact with anyone and the bug can't be isolated/reproduced, then it goes away. | 07:31 |
bdmurray | It goes away on it's own or needs to be manually closed? | 07:32 |
sfllaw | It needs to be Rejected. | 07:32 |
xeruno | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/76541 I thinks it's NeedsInfo... how good is the firefox crash file report for the developers? | 07:32 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 76541 in firefox "FireFox Crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 07:32 |
Laibsch | I already applied for QA membership but have not heard anything for about two weeks. Can somebody take a look? https://launchpad.net/people/r0lf | 07:33 |
bdmurray | Okay. Should the "needs info" section of the "managing status" part of the wiki page I mentioned be updated? I'd change close to "close as rejected". | 07:33 |
sfllaw | xeruno: It's Needs Info because it doesn't have enough information to reproduce the bug. | 07:34 |
sfllaw | xeruno: /g 27 | 07:34 |
sfllaw | Whoops. | 07:34 |
xeruno | ?? | 07:34 |
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sfllaw | xeruno: See the section on complete bug reports in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage | 07:34 |
xeruno | sfllaw, I should assign it to me or it's just optional? | 07:35 |
sfllaw | xeruno: You should assign it to yourself. | 07:35 |
xeruno | sfllaw, I was going to mark it as NeedInfo... I just wanted to know if the crash report is usefful for the developer... for the future... | 07:36 |
sfllaw | palski: It looks like you know what you're doing. Welcome to the team! | 07:36 |
xeruno | sfllaw, I already read it :) | 07:36 |
sfllaw | xeruno: Oh, then yes. The crash info is useful. | 07:36 |
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sfllaw | xeruno: It was generated by apport, and can be turned into something with more debug info if you have the appropriate debug packages installed. | 07:37 |
xeruno | sfllaw, as I never assigned bugs to me I have no history but my karma... that's enough for my application? | 07:38 |
Laibsch | dholbach: I already applied for QA membership but have not heard anything for about two weeks. Can somebody take a look? https://launchpad.net/people/r0lf | 07:38 |
sfllaw | xeruno: It would be good to see how you've triaged bugs. | 07:38 |
sfllaw | Laibsch: Have you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuQA? | 07:39 |
sfllaw | Laibsch: It contains the process for joining. | 07:39 |
palski | sfllaw: thank you =) | 07:39 |
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dholbach | nice, we're 101 people! :-) | 07:40 |
dholbach | that's a pretty nice hug day :) | 07:40 |
bdmurray | sfllaw: Okay. Should the "needs info" section of the "managing status" part of the wiki page I mentioned be updated? I'd change close to "close as rejected". | 07:43 |
xeruno | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/76334 I can confirm the behaviour in edgy... Medium importance bug | 07:45 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 76334 in gnome-panel "Some remote filesystems work from nautilus but not from gnome-panel" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 07:45 |
xeruno | I haven't found duplicates... | 07:46 |
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xeruno | But I think is a nautilus bugs.. instead a panel one | 07:46 |
sfllaw | bdmurray: Yes, I think we can clarify that. | 07:46 |
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sfllaw | xeruno: I think it is a glib2.0 bug myself. | 07:47 |
sfllaw | Can you search to make sure it's not a duplicate there? | 07:47 |
xeruno | sfllaw, gnome-vfs bug maybe? | 07:48 |
dholbach | what is a glib bug? | 07:48 |
sfllaw | xeruno: Yeah, or a gnome-vfs2 bug. | 07:48 |
sfllaw | dholbach: Bug 76334 | 07:48 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 76334 in gnome-panel "Some remote filesystems work from nautilus but not from gnome-panel" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76334 | 07:48 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #69020 in uim "update-manager failed for configuring uim-common" [Unknown,Unknown] http://launchpad.net/bugs/69020 | 07:50 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76541 in firefox (main) "FireFox Crash" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76541 | 07:50 |
sfllaw | bdmurray: Would you like to edit the wiki page? | 07:50 |
xeruno | sfllaw, it's a duplicate (I almost don't get it) but it is assinged to libgnome instead... | 07:51 |
xeruno | bug 66461 | 07:51 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 66461 in libgnome "edgy: places->network servers error" [Unknown,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/66461 | 07:51 |
dholbach | first of all, I'd ask which version of Ubuntu that is, then I'd ask what exactly he put into those fields, then ask if gnomevfs-ls <URI> works | 07:51 |
dholbach | I doubt it's a glib bug, rather panel (or maybe gnomevfs) | 07:51 |
xeruno | I thinks he's in edgy because I can reproduce in my system | 07:52 |
dholbach | xeruno: oh? | 07:52 |
xeruno | but It's a dupplicate... | 07:52 |
xeruno | dholbach, it's a dupplicate :P | 07:52 |
dholbach | of which bug? | 07:52 |
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xeruno | bug 66461 | 07:53 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 66461 in libgnome "edgy: places->network servers error" [Unknown,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/66461 | 07:53 |
dholbach | oh ok | 07:53 |
dholbach | good work on that one, xeruno | 07:53 |
xeruno | dholbach, :) | 07:54 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #76625 in gnome-utils (main) "baobab suddenly crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76625 | 07:55 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76626 in f-spot (main) "screensaver broken in feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76626 | 07:55 |
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Laibsch | dholbach: re https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuQA?, I promise to adhere to 1), I have read the texts in 2) and I have triaged quite a few bugs both in ubuntu and outside. I do have QA status for openoffice for example and have triaged - although infrequently - for years there | 07:57 |
Laibsch | dholbach: I am quite active recently with openembedded and have even got read-write access despite being an admitted non-dev without a clue about C++ and the like. | 07:57 |
Laibsch | dholbach: Stuff I did in ubuntu is at http://tinyurl.com/y9nga9 although I believe that link lacks the ones that were fixed in the meantime. | 07:57 |
Laibsch | dholbach: I can provide further URLs with bugs I triaged if you want to look at them. | 07:57 |
dholbach | Laibsch: that sounds pretty cool - sfllaw: will you do the honours? | 07:57 |
dholbach | Laibsch: sfllaw normally does the ubuntu-qa approvals | 07:58 |
Laibsch | OK, you were listed as admin so I contacted you. | 07:59 |
sfllaw | Laibsch: Yup, that's fine. | 07:59 |
sfllaw | Laibsch: Looking. | 07:59 |
dholbach | Laibsch: I'm the backup admin, lurking somewhere in the back of the room. ;-) | 07:59 |
sfllaw | Laibsch: I think you can Confirm 40552 now that there's log info. | 08:00 |
sfllaw | And since it's the most useful report there, you can probably mark the others duplicates. | 08:00 |
sfllaw | Bug 68849 probably needs some attention from you again. | 08:02 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 68849 in update-manager "Error while updrading from Dapper to Edgy" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/68849 | 08:02 |
sfllaw | But things look pretty good. | 08:02 |
Laibsch | sfllaw: I usually hesitate to confirm bugs I have not experienced myself. But I guess I need to learn about the semantics of things at ubuntu BTS. These are always slightly differing. OE for example has a weird interpretation of the "Assigned" status. | 08:02 |
sfllaw | "Assigned" means I'm responsible for it. | 08:02 |
sfllaw | And "Confirmed" means that there's enough information for that bug. | 08:03 |
Laibsch | In OE it means "I am working on it" ;-) | 08:03 |
Laibsch | OE == openembedded | 08:03 |
sfllaw | Ah. | 08:03 |
sfllaw | But you are! | 08:03 |
sfllaw | If you're having a conversation with the reporter. | 08:03 |
sfllaw | You're not working on fixing it, but that's Assigned+In Progress. | 08:04 |
sfllaw | Or Assigned+Confirmed. | 08:04 |
Laibsch | no, no I was talking about how semantics of stati in project BTS differ and gave OE status for "assigned" as an example. | 08:04 |
sfllaw | Right. | 08:04 |
Laibsch | Was not talking about ubuntu in this case. | 08:04 |
sfllaw | I thihkn bug 74558 is a support request. It's OK to Reject that bug. | 08:05 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 74558 in Ubuntu "websites don't accept my password" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74558 | 08:05 |
sfllaw | You can suggest he contact answers.launchpad.net or use the text in Bugs/Responses. | 08:05 |
Laibsch | Just illustrating the need to learn about the meaning of the stati in ubuntu and the general importance of being careful to interpret the differences between different projects. | 08:05 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76506 in hwdb-client (main) "hwdb-gui crashes on close" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76506 | 08:05 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76627 in nautilus (main) "Nautilus crashes on file browser window reload" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76627 | 08:05 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76628 in Ubuntu "Dapper needs an updated 'Service Pack' CD image" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76628 | 08:05 |
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sfllaw | Laibsch: Welcome to Ubuntu QA! | 08:06 |
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Laibsch | sfllaw: Thanks. | 08:08 |
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ash211 | hey, I'd like to join QA too | 08:12 |
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ash211 | 1) I promise to be polite but #59586 | 08:12 |
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ash211 | bug #59586 | 08:12 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 59586 in ubiquity "Unable to install Ubuntu" [Undecided,Rejected] http://launchpad.net/bugs/59586 | 08:12 |
ash211 | 2) I've read both pages | 08:12 |
ash211 | 3) and I've done a fair amount of triaging https://launchpad.net/people/ash211 | 08:13 |
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sfllaw | ash211: Being diplomatic is good. Bug 59586 is pretty close. | 08:15 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 59586 in ubiquity "Unable to install Ubuntu" [Undecided,Rejected] http://launchpad.net/bugs/59586 | 08:15 |
sfllaw | Looking at +assignedbugs | 08:15 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76568 in synaptic (main) "Can't select and copy information about a package" [Wishlist,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76568 | 08:15 |
ash211 | i got a good job email for that one | 08:15 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76629 in openoffice.org (main) "openoffice.org-core vos::OTimerManager::lookupTimer() SIGABRT crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76629 | 08:15 |
ash211 | I tend to subscribe to bugs rather than assign myself to them | 08:16 |
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sfllaw | ash211: Yay! | 08:17 |
sfllaw | ash211: Please assign bugs when you are putting things into Needs Info. | 08:17 |
ash211 | Will do | 08:17 |
sfllaw | ash211: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage has tips on this. | 08:17 |
sfllaw | Thanks. | 08:17 |
sfllaw | ash211: Looks good. | 08:19 |
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sfllaw | Welcome! | 08:20 |
ash211 | thanks | 08:20 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76630 in gnome-utils (main) "gnome-screenshot crashes feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76630 | 08:20 |
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DktrKranz | hi everyone | 08:24 |
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DktrKranz | could I ask some advices about Bug 53827? | 08:24 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 53827 in git-core "Please ship libgit.a" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/53827 | 08:24 |
sfllaw | DktrKranz: Hi. | 08:25 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76417 in kdepim "Kontact toolbar messed up when using ActionList" [Unknown,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76417 | 08:25 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76512 in synaptic (main) "Edgy Synaptic filter section list is empty" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76512 | 08:26 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76632 in gnome-screensaver (main) "screen does not unlock after locking" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76632 | 08:26 |
DktrKranz | that bug asks for a shared library which is not packaged in Ubuntu nor Debian | 08:26 |
DktrKranz | hi sfllaw | 08:26 |
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shrift | hey guys | 08:26 |
shrift | I noticed that the package "gdb" the gnu debugger, is not tracked at all in malone. Is there somewhere else I should report a bug for this? | 08:27 |
DktrKranz | after a quick read at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses, it seems it is the "new software not already in Debian" case | 08:27 |
sfllaw | DktrKranz: I think that's slightly different, because it's already a source package. | 08:28 |
sfllaw | DktrKranz: I think you can confirm a Wishlist bug to create git-dev. | 08:28 |
sfllaw | You might want to change the Title to "Please ship libgit.a in a new git-dev package." | 08:28 |
DktrKranz | ok | 08:29 |
DktrKranz | could you please update Importance of such bug? | 08:29 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76633 in anjuta (universe) "Anjuta 1.2.4a hangs while configure and make a project" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76633 | 08:32 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76634 in gnome-screensaver (main) "Screen won't unlock" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76634 | 08:32 |
sfllaw | DktrKranz: Gladly. | 08:32 |
shrift | hey hey... that's my bug. : ) | 08:32 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76635 in gaim (main) "usr_bin_gaim.1000.crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76635 | 08:36 |
DktrKranz | sfllaw, bug modified following your advice | 08:36 |
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sfllaw | DktrKranz Thanks. | 08:40 |
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shrift | so does anybody know what to do when gdb causes my system to freeze? | 08:40 |
Laibsch | Looking at bug 73873. I want to ask a question, set to needsinfo and assign myself. Malone requires I set an importance. I cannot answer this yet. Is this the desired behaviour of Malone or is this a bug? ;-) | 08:41 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 73873 in uim "Japanese language input method (SCIM) in EDGY" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73873 | 08:41 |
shrift | can anyone help me get a backtrace on evolution, WITHOUT using gdb? | 08:41 |
orion2012 | any suggestions for handling #46898? | 08:43 |
orion2012 | bug 46898 | 08:43 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 46898 in Ubuntu "Mouse freezes in Linux after using KVM to switch between PCs" [Medium,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/46898 | 08:43 |
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sfllaw | Laibsch: It requires you to set importance? | 08:44 |
sfllaw | shrift: gdb is the way to go. | 08:44 |
shrift | sfllaw: yeah, but it causes my system to freeze | 08:44 |
sfllaw | shrift: That seems odd that it freezes you system, though. | 08:44 |
shrift | sfllaw: indeed. | 08:45 |
shrift | sfllaw: unless it just suddenly takes all of my processor for something.... for a moment I can click around, but then it seems to freeze everything up. | 08:45 |
sfllaw | orion2012: Get the user to run cat /dev/mice/input | 08:45 |
sfllaw | They should see something go by whenever they wiggle the mouse. | 08:45 |
sfllaw | If the KVM switches, does anything happen? | 08:46 |
DktrKranz | shrift, you could try to login in a virtual console and grab any kernel oopses, if any | 08:46 |
sfllaw | If they unplug the mouse and plug it back in, does it fix things? | 08:46 |
shrift | dktrkranz, if I understand you right, you mean hitting ctrl+alt+f1 right? | 08:46 |
DktrKranz | yes | 08:46 |
shrift | dktrkranz: becaues I am not able to login there after I run gdb, like I say, complete system freeze | 08:47 |
DktrKranz | i think you have to export DISPLAY in order to launch evolution | 08:48 |
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dholbach | sfllaw: do we have some documentation somewhere that says that the importance of a bug is more a tool for a developer to organize his workload? | 08:50 |
dholbach | sfllaw: I think it's important enough to point out. | 08:50 |
DktrKranz | dholbach, maybe in open week logs? i think i've read something about it | 08:51 |
sfllaw | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance is close. | 08:51 |
sfllaw | I've clarified this a bit. | 08:52 |
dholbach | ah, that's better | 08:52 |
dholbach | thanks sfllaw | 08:52 |
dholbach | i hope that clarifies it a bit | 08:52 |
DktrKranz | what do you mean with "It would be improper to change the importance while this developer is still responsible"? | 08:54 |
orion2012 | how should bug 49957 be closed and should it be marked as affecting something more specific? | 08:54 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 49957 in Ubuntu "[dapper] Lose mouse with psmouse module and keyboard slow using a kvm" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/49957 | 08:54 |
sfllaw | DktrKranz: It means changing the importance of a Confirmed Assigned bug will upset someone's task order. | 08:55 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76636 in banshee (universe) "crashes on playing first song after starting" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76636 | 08:55 |
sfllaw | DktrKranz: And will probably make someone grumpy for at least five minutes. | 08:55 |
DktrKranz | :D | 08:55 |
Laibsch | sfllaw: yes, it did. | 08:56 |
Laibsch | sfllaw: Now this really is not funny. Malone forgot the text I had entered when it threw the error. | 08:56 |
DktrKranz | so, if a developer is going to work on a given bug (he put himself as assignee), importance shouldn't be changed, right? | 08:56 |
sfllaw | orion2012: That's Fix Released, as it went away with a new version. | 08:56 |
sfllaw | DktrKranz: Right. Or someone else assigns it to her. | 08:56 |
sfllaw | Laibsch: :( | 08:57 |
DktrKranz | ok, thanks ;) | 08:57 |
orion2012 | sfllaw: should it be marked as affecting linux-image even though it was never actually confirmed? basically, given the bugsquad's general disgust for bugs filed on Ubuntu, should steps be taken to assign packages without confirmation? | 08:59 |
orion2012 | not assign, mark as affecting | 08:59 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76637 in meta-gnome2 (universe) "gnome-panel-relatorio" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76637 | 09:01 |
orion2012 | err, "linux" rather than "linux-image" | 09:02 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #76639 in sudo (main) "sudo: timestamp too far in the future" [Medium,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76639 | 09:05 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76638 in rt2x00 (universe) "Cannot build against 2.6.20 (INIT_WORK change)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76638 | 09:06 |
Laibsch | How do I see all bugs in uim (upstream)? | 09:07 |
DktrKranz | Laibsch, https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/uim/+bugs | 09:07 |
Laibsch | DktrKranz: no, that is the ones in ubuntu. I want the upstream ones. There must be an URL. I have visited it earlier. | 09:09 |
DktrKranz | do you mean upstream bugtracker? | 09:09 |
Laibsch | No, I mean bugs marked with "uim (upstream)" | 09:10 |
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Laibsch | DktrKranz: look at bug 69020. It affects both upstream and ubuntu. | 09:11 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 69020 in uim "update-manager failed for configuring uim-common" [Unknown,Unknown] http://launchpad.net/bugs/69020 | 09:11 |
sfllaw | orion2012: Well, if we don't know which package is responsible, there's no point in putting it in one. | 09:11 |
Laibsch | I want not a list of bugs in ubuntu, but in upstream. | 09:12 |
sfllaw | That's available in Advanced Search, I believe. | 09:12 |
sfllaw | Laibsch: Or do you want something for uim (upstream) in particular? | 09:12 |
DktrKranz | In advanced search there is a similar option, but it hides such bugs | 09:12 |
sfllaw | Ah. | 09:13 |
sfllaw | Damn. | 09:13 |
sfllaw | That's no good. | 09:13 |
DktrKranz | i agree | 09:13 |
Laibsch | sfllaw: No, advanced search (which I don't find particularly advanced :-( ) does not have it. I just stumbled across it by accident now: https://bugs.launchpad.net/products/uim/trunk/ | 09:14 |
sfllaw | Laibsch: Excellent. | 09:14 |
Laibsch | but it's empty. So probably not what I was looking for, either. | 09:14 |
Laibsch | Whatever. I was looking for one particular bug that IIRC was marked for upstream but not for ubuntu itself. | 09:15 |
Laibsch | Here it is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/products/uim | 09:15 |
Laibsch | bug 3120 | 09:16 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 3120 in uim "UIM frequently crashes programs when switching input methods" [Unknown,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/3120 | 09:16 |
sfllaw | https://bugs.launchpad.net/products/uim/+bugs | 09:16 |
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Laibsch | And my IIRC was incorrect anyways. | 09:16 |
sfllaw | Laibsch: It seems to be fixed in Ubuntu according to this bug. | 09:16 |
cypher1 | ogra, hi | 09:18 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76640 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "linux-image-2.6.20-2: unable to boot Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76640 | 09:20 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76641 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "Atheros wifi0 device not being created by loaded ath_pci module" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76641 | 09:25 |
Laibsch | wow, this "importance" field is required stuff is annoying and totally broken. Now Malone even threw a bug even though the importance field had already been set. Where do I report bugs on Malone? | 09:30 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76642 in kdbus (universe) "kdbus crashing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76642 | 09:31 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #76643 in tomboy (main) "searching makes notes wider" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76643 | 09:40 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #76645 in meta-kde (main) "changes in kmenu disappear" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76645 | 10:01 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76646 in gspca (universe) "new upstream release" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76646 | 10:01 |
Laibsch | re bug 53244: where is the information for the menu stored? I want to find out what package installed that menu entry the user was clicking on. | 10:02 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 53244 in uim "Wrong link or dependency" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/53244 | 10:02 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76552 in firefox (main) "Firefox Crash when loading a page in a background tab" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76552 | 10:06 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76648 in Ubuntu "When goes to screensaver, don't accept the password" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76648 | 10:06 |
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zoydber3 | Laibsch: I think menu entries are handled by .desktop files | 10:07 |
bddebian | Laibsch: Should be /usr/share/applications/<app>.desktop | 10:08 |
Laibsch | bddebian: Thanks. Exactyl what I needed. | 10:09 |
bddebian | NP | 10:10 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76522 in update-manager (main) "libgl1-mesa-glx_6.5.1~20060817-0ubuntu3 appears broken" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76522 | 10:11 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76569 in rocks (universe) "rocks crashes when you launch them" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76569 | 10:11 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76649 in yelp (main) "yelp displays Sans font as ugly bitmapped times" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76649 | 10:11 |
bddebian | haha at 76569 | 10:11 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #76436 in firefox (main) "Help crashes on launch" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76436 | 10:19 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76652 in kino "Error writing to KINO/MJPEG audio filter - aborting" [Unknown,Unknown] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76652 | 10:26 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76653 in fontconfig (main) "Times, Helvetica, and Courier show up as bitmap fonts" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76653 | 10:26 |
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Laibsch | Should 69020 be assigned to MOTU devs and if so what is their nick/address to assign to? I believe it should be since a) it is a universe package and b) omote@debian.org seems to be inactive in launchpad. uim packages are in general in very bad shape, missing essential files (regression from dapper) and breaking the dapper-> edgy upgrade severely (happened to me) | 10:32 |
Laibsch | bug 69020 | 10:32 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 69020 in uim "packaging bugs in uim prevent upgrade to edgy" [Unknown,Unknown] http://launchpad.net/bugs/69020 | 10:32 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #76429 in thunar (main) "All files not always visible in "open location" list" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76429 | 10:40 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76655 in update-manager (main) "Feisty update-manager break's" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76655 | 10:40 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #71909 in firefox (main) "Firefox crash" [Undecided,Rejected] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71909 | 10:45 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76425 in thunar (main) "Opening location by typing "/" does not give list of files in root folder" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76425 | 10:45 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #76493 in democracyplayer (universe) "Democracy player won't start [feisty] " [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76493 | 10:55 |
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cypher1 | i am having lot of people reporting with not able to unlock with gnome-screensaver | 11:07 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #76657 in democracyplayer (universe) "Doesn't have a .desktop file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76657 | 11:10 |
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Ubugtu | New bug: #76658 in kvirc (universe) "Kvirc fails to register itself in gnome menu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76658 | 11:15 |
jhaitas_ | anyone else have breakage with evolution-data-server? | 11:16 |
Laibsch | Is there "an accepted way" to confirm bugs for a specific version of ubuntu? It seems Malone is really versionless which would be a shame. | 11:16 |
ogra | cypher1, i'll look into it tomorrow morning, the logs attached to the bugs are not very informative and i cant reproduce it locally here ... | 11:17 |
sfllaw | Laibsch: It's OK just to confirm bugs themselves. | 11:18 |
sfllaw | You can put the version number effected in the Description. | 11:18 |
sfllaw | Edit Description/Tags is the link that will let you do this. | 11:18 |
jhaitas_ | anyone else have breakage with evolution-data-server? | 11:18 |
cypher1 | ogra, ok no problem.. is there any issues you are now aware with pam_unix interaction and gnome-screensaver with the latest debian merges | 11:18 |
cypher1 | ogra, i saw one claiming with gnome-screensaver 2.16.1 the problem is not there | 11:19 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76659 in Ubuntu "Ruby crash with libxml" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76659 | 11:20 |
ogra | it wasnt there with 2.17.3 | 11:20 |
ogra | it seems to be caused by a recent change | 11:21 |
cypher1 | ogra, can be a pam issue also right ? | 11:22 |
Laibsch | sfllaw: Mmh, I don't think so. Most of the bugs I read today were dependent on version. This is a VERY important piece of information. Sometimes you can infer from the reporting date (fixed in edgy, but reported this summer, no candidate for an SRU -> set to fix released) | 11:22 |
ogra | cypher1, yes | 11:22 |
ogra | but i wont be sure until i looked deeper or get more info ... | 11:23 |
Laibsch | sfllaw: Description is really just a crook. you should be able to search on this field. | 11:23 |
ogra | i updated bug #76632 | 11:23 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 76632 in gnome-screensaver "screen does not unlock after locking" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76632 | 11:23 |
ogra | and hope i get more info until tomorrow ... | 11:23 |
ogra | night all | 11:23 |
sfllaw | Laibsch: Well, this is true. | 11:23 |
sfllaw | It's also something that we've got in the Launchpad pipeline. | 11:24 |
Laibsch | Oh, got to know. | 11:24 |
Laibsch | Are you a launchpad dev? | 11:24 |
sfllaw | Laibsch: Nope. | 11:24 |
sfllaw | Laibsch: I just bother them every few months. | 11:24 |
Laibsch | sfllaw: bother them more often ,-) | 11:25 |
sfllaw | Laibsch: As often as I can! | 11:25 |
cypher1 | ogra, thanks | 11:25 |
ajmitch | sfllaw! | 11:25 |
sfllaw | ajmitch: Andrew! | 11:25 |
cypher1 | ogra, there is a strace available in the dup of bug 76632 | 11:25 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 76632 in gnome-screensaver "screen does not unlock after locking" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76632 | 11:25 |
ajmitch | how are you? | 11:25 |
sfllaw | ajmitch: Not too bad, you? | 11:26 |
ajmitch | alright | 11:26 |
ajmitch | looking forward to a holiday | 11:26 |
ajmitch | then I can do more ubuntu work for a couple of days :) | 11:26 |
sfllaw | ajmitch: You can triage bug 76662 right now. | 11:27 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 76662 in imagezoom "Preferences dialog is empty in Firefox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76662 | 11:27 |
sfllaw | :) | 11:27 |
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Laibsch | sfllaw: How do I prevent Malone from sending me mails on changes *I* make? | 11:27 |
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sfllaw | Uhm... You can't. | 11:28 |
sfllaw | You can filter them out using your mailer program, though. | 11:28 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76539 in gedit (main) "Strange Gedit startup/no startup at all" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76539 | 11:30 |
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yuriy | hi, should stuff like bug 39635 be rejected? | 11:33 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 39635 in kdebase "konqueror wont start on Xgl with compiz" [Medium,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/39635 | 11:33 |
yuriy | cause xgl isn't supported and we have aiglx now? | 11:34 |
ryanakca | sfllaw: Hi, I had applied to ubuntu-qa sometime in July or August... | 11:34 |
sfllaw | ryanakca: Hello! | 11:34 |
ryanakca | sfllaw: did you want a link to my lp bug list? | 11:34 |
sfllaw | ryanakca: That would be good. | 11:34 |
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ryanakca | sfllaw: https://bugs.launchpad.net/people/ryanakca/+assignedbugs | 11:35 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76660 in Ubuntu "Installation Problem IOError: [Errno 30] Read-only file system" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76660 | 11:36 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76661 in ekiga (main) "[RFC] ekiga does not enable dbus" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76661 | 11:36 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76662 in imagezoom (universe) "Preferences dialog is empty in Firefox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76662 | 11:36 |
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joumetal | closed #76425 as fix released :) | 11:37 |
joumetal | bug 76425 | 11:37 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 76425 in thunar "Opening location by typing "/" does not give list of files in root folder" [Undecided,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76425 | 11:37 |
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sfllaw | ryanakca: Looking. | 11:39 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76663 in imagezoom (universe) "Removing mozilla-imagezoom corrupts Firefox's global configuration" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76663 | 11:41 |
ryanakca | kk | 11:41 |
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ryanakca | lol | 11:42 |
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ryanakca | gnomefreak: support requests are helpfull, but then, so is triaging | 11:42 |
gnomefreak | ryanakca: i dont ever see new support requests like i did at one time | 11:43 |
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ryanakca | no? | 11:43 |
gnomefreak | nope not in email | 11:44 |
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gnomefreak | just another way to help people :) | 11:44 |
sfllaw | ryanakca: Did you take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuQA? | 11:46 |
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ryanakca | yep | 11:46 |
sfllaw | Hmm, do you agree to points 1 and 2? | 11:47 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76532 in kdebase (main) "ksysguard is not run as root" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76532 | 11:47 |
ryanakca | sfllaw: definitly in case 1, and in case 2, yes | 11:47 |
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ryanakca | 76532.... I thought I had triaged that already... and it's a new bug? | 11:48 |
sfllaw | ryanakca: Maybe it's a dup. | 11:48 |
gnomefreak | its not new its confirmed | 11:48 |
gnomefreak | sometimes ubugtu does that | 11:49 |
ryanakca | https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnuchess/+bug/76532/comments/1 | 11:49 |
sfllaw | That's funny. | 11:49 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 76532 in kdebase "ksysguard is not run as root" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 11:49 |
sfllaw | It must be backlogged. | 11:49 |
gnomefreak | a change on bug sends another notice | 11:49 |
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ryanakca | ah, might want to change it to "Updated bug: #randomnumber in myapp (myrepo), etc" | 11:49 |
gnomefreak | thats seveas job ;) | 11:50 |
ryanakca | yep | 11:51 |
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gnomefreak | is there ever an end to learning python? | 11:52 |
Seveas | it's just backlog | 11:52 |
Seveas | he was down yesterday | 11:52 |
gnomefreak | ah | 11:52 |
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Seveas | I did s/courier+insane mail setup/postfix+dovecot+sane mail setup/ on the server | 11:52 |
Seveas | postfix FTW | 11:53 |
ryanakca | gnomefreak: well, I'm at chapter 6 or 7 of O'Reilly's Learning Python | 11:54 |
gnomefreak | :) good going thats further than i was able to get (i got busy with other things) | 11:54 |
Seveas | python is awesome | 11:55 |
Ubugtu | New bug: #76664 in firefox (main) "crash after choosing "Save destination as" on a link" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76664 | 11:55 |
Seveas | but the only way to learn it is by writing code | 11:55 |
ryanakca | probably not the right channel to ask, but kubuntu member = ubuntu member? | 11:55 |
ryanakca | Seveas: yeah | 11:55 |
Seveas | ryanakca, correct | 11:55 |
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gnomefreak | i guess these are just merges im seeing weird though | 11:57 |
sfllaw | ryanakca: Welcome! | 11:59 |
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ryanakca | ty | 11:59 |
ryanakca | only took me six months :) | 11:59 |
gnomefreak | ok back to work so i can go to bed sometime tonight | 12:00 |
ryanakca | lol | 12:00 |
gokusandwich_ | hi, can someone give me a hand? | 12:03 |
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gokusandwich_ | i want to specify that this bug ( https://launchpad.net/bugs/50697 ) is fixed in Ubuntu, in general (in Edgy and up), but that it is still a problem in Dapper | 12:04 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 50697 in poppler "Evince crashes upon attempting to select text, for certain PDF(s)" [Unknown,Fix released] | 12:04 |
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