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coNPIs bug #75659 a bug or a support request, what do you think?12:40
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ivoksbug 7565901:11
ivoksubotu: ?01:11
ivoks:)01:11
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enkrates794Could 75659 be a feature request?01:31
Burgworkenkrates794: wishlist01:34
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Seveashmm...02:24
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orion2012does anyone have any suggestions for handling bug 46898?03:14
orion2012err #4689803:14
orion2012oh, ubugtu, come back!03:14
orion2012https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/4689803:14
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palskishouldn't it be hug day today?10:01
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dholbachgood morning10:24
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dholbachIS IT THE HUG DAY?10:34
seb128dholbach: LOOKS LIKE IT YEP :)10:35
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dholbachhey ivoks10:37
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Seveas@config channel plugins.bugtracker.bugreporter11:32
Ubugtuubuntu11:32
Seveas@config channel plugins.bugtracker.bugreporter ubuntu-bugs11:33
Seveas@config channel plugins.bugtracker.bugreporter ubuntu-bugs11:33
Seveas(almost back to life11:33
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dholbachhehe... thanks a lot! :)11:37
Seveashad to rework the bugreporting thing11:42
Seveasit's now using imap instead of using the maildir directly11:42
UbugtuNew bug: #72754 in bittornado (main) "Please merge from debian/unstable (overwrite ok)" [Undecided,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7275411:45
UbugtuNew bug: #74837 in pysvn (universe) "sync request" [Undecided,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7483711:45
UbugtuNew bug: #76573 in ttf-dustin (universe) "please sync ttf-dustin 20030517-4 from debian sid" [Undecided,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7657311:45
Seveas\o/11:46
mc44yay!11:46
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UbugtuNew bug: #76575 in moin (main) "Please sync from debian/unstable (overwrite ok)" [Undecided,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7657511:52
Seveasit still has a bit of backlog11:53
ajmitchfew hundred bugs?11:53
Seveasyeah11:53
Seveasabout 20011:53
mc44flood the channel :)11:53
Seveasbasically all bugs filed yesterday11:53
Seveaswell, I should say 'in the past 30-ish hours'11:54
Seveasbut it's a lot more robust now :)11:54
SeveasAnd I'm no longer abusing a friends domain for mailaddresses11:55
UbugtuNew bug: #76485 in f-spot (main) "Please sync f-spot (main) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7648511:55
UbugtuNew bug: #76578 in base-files (main) "custom /etc/motd doesn't get installed." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7657811:55
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UbugtuNew bug: #76579 in abuse-sdl (universe) "instructions on first screen don't make sense" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7657912:06
UbugtuNew bug: #76580 in python-xml (main) "Please sync from debian/unstable (overwrite ok)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7658012:06
UbugtuNew bug: #76581 in xfce4-xkb-plugin (main) "SRU: xfce4-xkb-plugin in edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7658112:06
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UbugtuNew bug: #76390 in emerald "Emerald Theme Manager just crashed, I am not sure about what I did." [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7639012:11
UbugtuNew bug: #76563 in Ubuntu "[Feisty 7.04]  gnome-panel-screenshot don't save anymore" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7656312:11
UbugtuNew bug: #76582 in udev (main) "[feisty]  udev boot message on lowlatency kernels, udevd[3692] : lookup_group: specified group 'nvram' unknown." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7658212:11
UbugtuNew bug: #76548 in Ubuntu "Beryl-Core crashes on start" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7654812:15
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UbugtuNew bug: #76455 in beryl-core "Beryl crashes on startup" [Undecided,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7645512:30
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UbugtuNew bug: #76583 in xfonts-baekmuk (universe) "Please sync xfonts-baekmuk (Universe) from Debian" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7658312:40
UbugtuNew bug: #76584 in Ubuntu "Nforce 680i SLI network forcedeth problem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7658412:45
UbugtuNew bug: #76585 in telepathy-gabble (universe) "Please sync telepathy-gabble (Universe) from Debian" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7658512:50
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UbugtuNew bug: #76437 in glibc (main) "libc6 core-dumped" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7643701:05
UbugtuNew bug: #76498 in configure-debian (universe) "[Merge]  configure-debian 1.0.2ubuntu1" [Wishlist,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7649801:05
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OrnedanG'day. Does anyone know who I have to yell at to get bug 68380 fixed? It's merely a showstopped bug that's been unfixed for two months01:08
UbugtuMalone bug 68380 in eclipse "[SRU]  eclipse for edgy-updates" [Medium,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6838001:08
OrnedanMake that 6805301:08
seb128bug #6805301:10
UbugtuMalone bug 68053 in azureus "Eclipse will not start (Edgy)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6805301:10
OrnedanIt's especially bad since there seems to be a fix, but the repository packages haven't been fixed01:10
seb128Ornedan: maybe ask on #ubuntu-motu, that's universe and non-supported officially, depends on MOTU01:11
ajmitchit looks like it's just waiting to be uploaded to edgy-proposed, if it hasn't already been01:12
OrnedanUgh. Anally following good release practice now, but not when originally shoving out the broken packages at about the same time Edgy testing ended01:13
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UbugtuNew bug: #76587 in audacity (universe) "audacity crashes at record" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7658701:30
UbugtuNew bug: #76588 in audacity (universe) "please clean sound system before run" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7658801:36
UbugtuNew bug: #76589 in libnotify (main) "Please sync from debian/unstable (overwrite ok)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7658901:46
UbugtuNew bug: #76590 in gaphor (universe) "Please sync gaphor (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7659001:51
UbugtuNew bug: #76594 in firefox (main) "firefox crashed on gmail" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7659402:00
UbugtuNew bug: #76595 in gworkspace (universe) "Please sync gworkspace (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7659502:00
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UbugtuNew bug: #76593 in acpi-support (main) "asus brightness hotkeys" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7659302:01
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cypher1_sfllaw: hi is the request for ubuntu-qa started02:04
LaibschHi, how can I add the information to Malone that UIM uses https://bugs.freedesktop.org/ as their bug tracker? -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/products/uim/02:05
UbugtuNew bug: #76529 in firefox (main) "Installing a extension (adblockPlus) and firefox close." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7652902:06
Adri2000Laibsch: maybe ask in #launchpad02:07
Laibschthanks, Adri200002:08
dholbachLaibsch: I don't hink that's needed - you can just click on "+ Upstream" link and supply the link for the upstream bug02:08
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UbugtuNew bug: #76596 in Ubuntu "Gnome desktop lost windows border and other features" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7659602:15
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gnomefreaki kind of like that feature better but i dont like the new bug report helper02:21
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UbugtuNew bug: #76597 in xmms (main) "xmms crashes when reading id3 tag of certain mp3 files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7659702:40
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UbugtuNew bug: #76353 in xffm-icons (universe) "xffm-icons crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7635302:46
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UbugtuNew bug: #76549 in gnome-doc-utils (main) "gnome-doc-prepare can't create new docs" [Medium,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7654902:51
UbugtuNew bug: #76598 in Ubuntu "cdrom not detected in feisty daily 19-12-2006" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7659802:51
UbugtuNew bug: #76562 in gnome-doc-utils (main) "newly created documentation isn't valid" [Medium,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7656202:52
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UbugtuNew bug: #76388 in metacity (main) "windows don't move across workspaces" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7638802:55
UbugtuNew bug: #76599 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Feisty: zydas 1211 USB device soft lockup on CPU#0" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7659902:55
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UbugtuNew bug: #76559 in rhythmbox (main) "Rhythmbox hangs after burning a CD from a playlist" [Medium,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7655903:00
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UbugtuNew bug: #76419 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "gdb makes kernel oups" [High,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7641903:25
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robepischi all03:32
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UbugtuNew bug: #76490 in egnome (universe) "This package isnt installable" [Medium,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7649003:41
UbugtuNew bug: #76600 in rhythmbox (main) "Move music files on import" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7660003:41
sfllawcypher1_: Hi!03:46
cypher1_sfllaw: hi!03:46
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sfllawcypher1_: Have you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuQA?03:48
cypher1_sfllaw: sorry no.. let me read it03:49
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UbugtuNew bug: #76602 in dcraw (universe) "Please sync dcraw (main) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7660203:51
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chantrahi there, has anybody checked that bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/python-defaults/+bug/7495604:01
UbugtuMalone bug 74956 in python-defaults "[Feisty]  Can't import python module" [Undecided,Confirmed] 04:01
chantrasome python modules fails to import04:02
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sfllawchantra: Looking.04:05
sfllawchantra: Please don't flip the status to Confirmed unless you're triaging it.04:07
sfllawchantra: You can learn the proper steps to traiging by reading the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage page.04:09
chantrasfllaw: I actually meant to triage it as confirmed04:11
chantrashould not have I?04:11
sfllawHmm, in which case, you should have unassigned doko.04:11
chantraokie I'm unassigning him then04:12
sfllawchantra: Good good.04:12
sfllawchantra: You wouldn't want to force him to do the work.04:12
chantrasfllaw: it seems that he assigned himself though04:13
chantraI didn't I just wanted to confirm the bug :)04:13
sfllawDidn't he assign himself for triaging purposes?04:14
sfllawIt looks like it.04:14
chantradon't know, when I triaged the bug, it was still unconfirmed or maybe under need info04:15
chantrabut I could confirm it04:15
sfllawSure.  Confirm and unassign.  You can see who did what in the Activity Log.04:16
chantraokie dokie, gonna check04:16
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sfllawbddebian: Barry!04:16
bddebianHi sfllaw04:17
chantrasfllaw: did you put it back to need info?04:17
sfllawchantra: I had.04:18
chantracause, checking at the activity log, I've turned it back to confirmed04:18
chantrawhen I wanted to unassign it04:18
sfllawAll right.04:19
chantraso, should this bug be confirmed or not04:19
sfllawIt can be.04:19
chantrasfllaw: when I wanted to unassign it, my browser was still on the "confirm" window04:19
sfllawI was just going to let doko confirm it.04:19
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sfllawBut it seems that you've answered the real question.04:20
chantrasfllaw: doko didn't seem to be much active on this one since 8 december04:20
sfllawchantra: Yes, I see that.04:21
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sfllawchantra: It's fine for you to Confirm and Unassign.04:21
chantraokie dokie, I'm quite new in bug triaging, so let me know when I do something wrong ;)04:21
sfllawchantra: Cool.  Thanks!04:22
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coNPI faced some difficulties triaging bug 7557004:22
UbugtuMalone bug 75570 in Ubuntu "Skype not in edgy-commercial" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7557004:22
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coNPI tought it was not a real bug, but a support request, however I got corrected04:23
dsasoh, today is wednesday, didn't realise.04:23
coNPdo you think I should confirm it now (since there is really no skype package in edgy-commercial), or set it to "needs info" (since I am still not sure that upgrading really breaks this package)04:23
sfllawcoNP: Hmm.  I have to think about this.04:25
sfllawcoNP: See, dapper-commercial and edgy-commercial aren't really run by the community.04:25
sfllawcoNP: They are run by Canonical Ltd. itself.04:25
coNPsfllaw: that's why i rejected the bug first04:25
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sfllawcoNP: Let me check with some people.04:27
coNPsfllaw: thanks :)04:28
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UbugtuNew bug: #76499 in gnome-power-manager (main) "Spelling mistake in Brightness and Inhibit applets" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7649904:35
bdmurrayBug 76600 seems to be a feature request to me, but look at the canned responses I am not sure if the "feature request" canned response or the "changing defaults" response is more appropriate.04:39
UbugtuMalone bug 76600 in rhythmbox "Move music files on import" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7660004:39
sfllawbdmurray: That's totally a feature request.04:40
sfllawbdmurray: It doesn't have this behaviour, so there is no default to change.04:40
sfllawbdmurray: The CD ripping isn't similar enough.04:40
bdmurrayOkay. Is a spec the right way for the user to go or would they be more successful with the rhythmbox project itself?04:42
sfllawLikely rhythmbox itself.04:42
sfllawI think we might need a new canned response.04:42
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sfllawcoNP: I talked with EtienneG about this bug.  And we've decided that it should be rejected since it isn't an Ubuntu problem.04:42
coNPsfllaw: then should I reject it again? and state that it is a package that does not belong among the supported ubuntu ones?04:44
coNPsfllaw: thanks, I noticed you did it04:44
sfllawcoNP: Yeah.  It's not that we don't support it.  It's that we CANNOT.04:45
sfllawThanks for bringing it to my attention.04:45
bdmurraysfllaw: If the response to a bug is "feature request" should it's status be "rejected"?04:46
coNPsfllaw: Sorry, maybe a stupid question. How do you mean "we CANNOT"?04:46
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sfllawcoNP: There's no way we can upload to the -commercial repositories.04:47
sfllawcoNP: They're not Ubuntu.04:47
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sfllawbdmurray: Yes, Rejected is correct.04:47
robepischi all, I'm new here and have some questions04:48
sfllawrobepisc: Welcome!04:48
robepiscsfllaw: thanks :-)04:48
robepiscI just joined the bugsquad team in LP: my request is pending for apporval.04:50
robepiscFirst question: are there requisites I should have in order to join the bugsquad team?  If not (as I evince from reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad), why the an approval is required?04:52
cypher1_sfllaw: sorry was away.. i have done some triaging and merging until recently.. will i qualify for the ubuntu-qa ?04:52
sfllawcypher1_: You have to answer the three points listed on that page.04:53
sfllawrobepisc: That is a good question.  It basically lets us expire old subscriptions automatically.04:54
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robepiscsfllaw: Ok.  I've just seen the approvation mail in my inbox. Wow, I'm in the BugSquad :-)04:57
coNProbepisc: welcome aboard :)04:58
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robepiscthanks you all :-)04:58
sfllawcypher1_: Could you answer them here, or in a /query?04:59
robepiscAnother thing it's not clear to me.  What can I do now that I couldn't before?04:59
cypher1_sfllaw: yes04:59
bdmurraysfllaw: I am unsure about how to proceed with bug 75509.  I have confirmed it in Edgy and want to mark it as confirmed but I am not sure which package it effects and to whom to assign it.04:59
UbugtuMalone bug 75509 in Ubuntu "All runlevels use X; singe user mode broken" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7550904:59
sfllawrobepisc: There are no material benefits to joining BugSquad.  You get extra permissions with joining ubuntu-qa.04:59
UbugtuNew bug: #76466 in Ubuntu "Timezone offset not working (Ubuntu 6.06 ppc)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7646605:00
sfllawbdmurray: Unngh.  It's two reports in one.05:01
sfllawbdmurray: For the one you've seen, hitting Alt-Left doesn't switch VTs either?05:02
sfllawNor plain Alt-F1?05:02
sfllawIn which case, that is a bug in linux-source-2.6.17.05:03
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sfllawThe kernel handles VT switching.05:03
sfllawAlthough it could be that your video modules have hijacked it.05:03
bdmurraysfllaw: I haven't tried both of those but can shortly.05:03
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bdmurraysfllaw: neither Alt-F1 nor Alt-Left Arrow allowed me to switch VTs.05:09
sfllawYeah, sounds like a kernel bug.05:09
sfllawWhat video driver do you use?05:09
bdmurrayprobably radeon on that system, I need to reboot to confirm05:10
sfllawbdmurray: Try without the radeon kernel module and using the vesa X driver.05:11
sfllawThat way, you'll be able to narrow it down.05:11
sfllawBut radeon is free, so it is a linux-source-2.6.17 bug.05:11
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cypher1any one has a ati rage128 card ?05:21
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robepiscI have a pair of bugs I've been working on for some time: #59618 and #62868.05:26
dholbachwhooo, happy hug day! :-)05:26
UbugtuNew bug: #76386 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "OOPS, seemingly when loading ath_pci" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7638605:26
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robepiscI now have 2 fixes for them, and would like a core developer had a look.05:26
bddebianCrap, today is hug day? :-(05:26
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sfllawbddebian: Yup.05:26
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sfllawrobepisc: Neato!05:27
bddebianEeks, I've been trying to keep up with merges and REVU.. Sheesh :)05:27
sfllawThe community is getting big!05:29
robepisc#62868 in particular doesn't have a priority.  It turned out to be a casper_actually_works_for_accident kind of bugs, so I think it should be high priority.05:30
sfllawrobepisc: You will want rodarvus to take a look at bug 59618.05:30
UbugtuMalone bug 59618 in xorg ""Safe graphics mode" doesn't use VESA" [High,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5961805:30
UbugtuNew bug: #76605 in vlc (universe) "Crashes on dvd navigation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7660505:31
UbugtuNew bug: #76606 in firefox (main) "Update Firefox to 2.0.0.1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7660605:31
coNPdholbach, may I msg you?05:31
sfllawrobepisc: For bug 62868, it's probably best to find tfheen or cjwatson online.05:32
UbugtuMalone bug 62868 in casper "swap partitions not automounted by the LiveCD" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6286805:32
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sfllawrobepisc: I'm a little suspicious about using $PATH for initramfs scripts, and would rather they just specify absolute paths.05:32
sfllawBut that would be something to discuss with them.05:32
dholbachcoNP: sure05:33
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UbugtuNew bug: #76608 in firefox (main) "Crash when opening a bookmark via del.ico.us" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7660805:36
robepiscsfllaw: ok. thanks for looking at those bugs! I'll ping rodarvus and tollef/colin05:36
sfllawrobepisc: Excellent!05:36
sfllawI think rodarvus will take your patch.05:37
sfllawIt looks very sane.05:37
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UbugtuNew bug: #76609 in linux-source-2.6.15 (main) "Reboot fails on a MSI MS-7005 (651M-L) mainboard" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7660905:40
mc44sfllaw: should I assign a bug for a request for the new security update of firefox to someone? I guess they will get to it anyway05:40
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sfllawmc44: They will.05:44
sfllawEspecially if the Security Team is subscribed.05:44
mc44sfllaw: ah I shall subscribe the security team then05:45
keescookmc44: just toggling the security flag will subscribe the security team.  :)05:45
sfllawIt's true!05:45
mc44keescook: magic! now fix it :p05:46
keescookmc44: heh.  must review, test, etc.  :)05:46
keescookit's on the list, no worries.05:46
mc44keescook: of course :)05:47
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UbugtuNew bug: #76610 in gnome-panel (main) "Bookmarks don't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7661005:50
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UbugtuNew bug: #76611 in gimp (main) "Configuring input devices dialog hangs after user input" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7661105:56
UbugtuNew bug: #76612 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "No Audio after latest 686 kernel upgrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7661205:56
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chris__hey bug catchers - how long should a bug sit with status "Needs Info", without a reply, before rejecting it?06:06
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dholbachchris__: I usually wait a month06:09
dholbachchris__: then reject it with an answer from http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses06:09
chris__dholbach: ok, that sounds about right.06:09
dholbachOk cool.06:10
chris__dholbach: thanks06:10
dholbachI have a query for desktop-bugs displaying "Needs Info" bugs sorted by "Oldest first" and I try to look through them regularly06:10
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dholbachhey cassidy - happy hug day!06:13
cassidythanks dholbach ! you too :)06:14
xerunothere's a lot of firefox crashes.... reported recently or its always the same?06:14
cassidyi start my bug day by reporting a crash in telepathy-gabble :)06:14
dholbachcassidy: ahh alrighty :-)06:14
cassidyzdra convince me to try gossip-tl06:14
dholbachnice :)06:15
cassidyand of course it crashs at startup :D06:15
dholbachstrange, not for me06:15
UbugtuNew bug: #76496 in koctave (universe) "koctave does not starts" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7649606:15
cassidynot fun if all work of course :p06:15
xerunohttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/76509  Setting it to NeedInfo + Standard  response06:16
UbugtuMalone bug 76509 in firefox "crash at searching for java plugin" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 06:16
cassidydholbach: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=940606:20
UbugtuFreedesktop bug 9406 in telepathy-gabble "Gabble crashs when trying to connect using gossip" [Major,New] 06:20
UbugtuNew bug: #76613 in apt (main) "apt-get remove shows the package being removed as being able to be autoremoved" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7661306:20
UbugtuNew bug: #76614 in ubiquity (main) "yaboot installer crashes while installing to iPod via Firewire " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7661406:20
mc44in feisty ifup reports "wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device", is this something the kernel is in charge of?06:21
dholbachcassidy: thanks, you rock!06:21
cassidythanks for dbgsym packages :)06:22
mc44or should I file it against ifupdown?06:25
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bddebianDo we have a "policy" on adding .desktop files now?06:30
UbugtuNew bug: #76509 in firefox (main) "crash at searching for java plugin" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7650906:30
palskisfllaw: ping06:36
UbugtuNew bug: #76617 in ubiquity (main) "installer has no option to skip grub install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7661706:40
UbugtuNew bug: #76618 in xterm (main) "Contents LD_LIBRARY_PATH cleared by xterm" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7661806:41
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sfllawpalski: Pong.06:51
UbugtuNew bug: #76449 in rhythmbox "Cannot sort static playlists" [Unknown,Unknown]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7644906:56
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UbugtuNew bug: #76621 in ubiquity (main) "installer does not properly recognize graphics card or monitor" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7662107:06
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predius_sfllaw: aren't we in the middle of the interviews?07:08
sfllawpredius_: Interviews?07:08
sfllawpredius_: For Ubuntu QA you mean?07:08
predius_Yeah.07:09
sfllawpredius_: Indeed we are.07:09
predius_sfllaw: and no one has shown up?07:09
sfllawOne person has.07:09
sfllawAnd you're number two.07:09
predius_sfllaw: how can I get a list of the bugs I have triaged?07:10
palskisfllaw: and I was goingto to :)07:10
sfllawpredius_: You sort of have to keep track.  :)07:11
sfllawpredius_: You aren't triaging any bugs right now, are you?07:11
sfllawpalski: Hurray!07:12
predius_haven't in a couple of weeks.07:12
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sfllawpredius_: I looked through Google and see you've done lots of support requests.07:14
predius_had some free time.07:14
predius_sfllaw: i also have a smallpackage in universe07:16
sfllawpredius_: Nice.  Well, maybe you could do some bug triaging today?07:16
xerunosfllaw, Hi I came today for the interview too  ;)07:19
sfllawpalski, xeruno: Did you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuQA?07:19
sfllawIf so, you can just start sending me answers.07:20
xerunosfllaw, I have.. :)07:21
xerunobut there are not question there :P07:22
sfllawxeruno: Well, you have to demonstrate three things.07:22
palskisfllaw: do you mind if I query you?07:24
sfllawpalski: Nope.07:24
xerunosfllaw, I am not sure if I fit... or if I have enough experience :S but I will try to do pass the test :)07:25
sfllawxeruno: Great!07:26
palskioh, I'm not registered user on freenode so i is not possible :)07:27
palskisfllaw: answers: 1) sure 2) I've read those 3) 71967 68442 46050 73394 72246 7202607:27
xerunohow i get my list of bugs?07:27
sfllawxeruno: Look on your people page and click the Bugs link in the left sidebar.07:28
xerunook I was reading my karma :P07:28
xerunobut I never assing bugs to me :S07:29
xerunoI just cc it :/07:29
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bdmurraysfllaw: The wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/CommonTasks refers to a "reasonable stage" when closing a Needs Info bug.  Is there a time period that is commonly used for reasonable?07:30
sfllawbdmurray: About a month or so.07:31
UbugtuNew bug: #76623 in gnome-screensaver (main) "default screensaver cumbersome on old hardware" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7662307:31
UbugtuNew bug: #76624 in webmin (universe) "why was webmin dropped?" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7662407:31
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sfllawbdmurray: If you cannot get in contact with anyone and the bug can't be isolated/reproduced, then it goes away.07:31
bdmurrayIt goes away on it's own or needs to be manually closed?07:32
sfllawIt needs to be Rejected.07:32
xerunohttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/76541  I thinks it's NeedsInfo...  how good is the firefox crash file report for the developers?07:32
UbugtuMalone bug 76541 in firefox "FireFox Crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 07:32
LaibschI already applied for QA membership but have not heard anything for about two weeks.  Can somebody take a look?  https://launchpad.net/people/r0lf07:33
bdmurrayOkay.  Should the "needs info" section of the "managing status" part of the wiki page I mentioned be updated?  I'd change close to "close as rejected".07:33
sfllawxeruno: It's Needs Info because it doesn't have enough information to reproduce the bug.07:34
sfllawxeruno: /g 2707:34
sfllawWhoops.07:34
xeruno??07:34
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sfllawxeruno: See the section on complete bug reports in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage07:34
xerunosfllaw, I should assign it to me or it's just optional?07:35
sfllawxeruno: You should assign it to yourself.07:35
xerunosfllaw, I was going to mark it as NeedInfo... I just wanted to know if the crash report is usefful for the developer... for the future...07:36
sfllawpalski: It looks like you know what you're doing.  Welcome to the team!07:36
xerunosfllaw, I already read it :)07:36
sfllawxeruno: Oh, then yes.  The crash info is useful.07:36
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sfllawxeruno: It was generated by apport, and can be turned into something with more debug info if you have the appropriate debug packages installed.07:37
xerunosfllaw, as I never assigned bugs to me  I have no history but my karma... that's enough for my application?07:38
Laibschdholbach: I already applied for QA membership but have not heard anything for about two weeks.  Can somebody take a look?  https://launchpad.net/people/r0lf07:38
sfllawxeruno: It would be good to see how you've triaged bugs.07:38
sfllawLaibsch: Have you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuQA?07:39
sfllawLaibsch: It contains the process for joining.07:39
palskisfllaw: thank you =)07:39
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dholbachnice, we're 101 people! :-)07:40
dholbachthat's a pretty nice hug day :)07:40
bdmurraysfllaw: Okay.  Should the "needs info" section of the "managing status" part of the wiki page I mentioned be updated?  I'd change close to "close as rejected".07:43
xerunohttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/76334 I can confirm the behaviour in edgy...   Medium importance bug07:45
UbugtuMalone bug 76334 in gnome-panel "Some remote filesystems work from nautilus but not from gnome-panel" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 07:45
xerunoI haven't found duplicates...07:46
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xerunoBut I think is a nautilus bugs.. instead  a panel one07:46
sfllawbdmurray: Yes, I think we can clarify that.07:46
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sfllawxeruno: I think it is a glib2.0 bug myself.07:47
sfllawCan you search to make sure it's not a duplicate there?07:47
xerunosfllaw,  gnome-vfs  bug maybe?07:48
dholbachwhat is a glib bug?07:48
sfllawxeruno: Yeah, or a gnome-vfs2 bug.07:48
sfllawdholbach: Bug 7633407:48
UbugtuMalone bug 76334 in gnome-panel "Some remote filesystems work from nautilus but not from gnome-panel" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7633407:48
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UbugtuNew bug: #69020 in uim "update-manager failed for configuring uim-common" [Unknown,Unknown]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6902007:50
UbugtuNew bug: #76541 in firefox (main) "FireFox Crash" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7654107:50
sfllawbdmurray: Would you like to edit the wiki page?07:50
xerunosfllaw, it's a duplicate (I almost don't get it) but it is assinged to libgnome instead...07:51
xerunobug 6646107:51
UbugtuMalone bug 66461 in libgnome "edgy: places->network servers error" [Unknown,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6646107:51
dholbachfirst of all, I'd ask which version of Ubuntu that is, then I'd ask what exactly he put into those fields, then ask if gnomevfs-ls <URI> works07:51
dholbachI doubt it's a glib bug, rather panel (or maybe gnomevfs)07:51
xerunoI thinks he's in edgy because I can  reproduce in my system07:52
dholbachxeruno: oh?07:52
xerunobut It's a dupplicate...07:52
xerunodholbach, it's a dupplicate :P07:52
dholbachof which bug?07:52
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xerunobug 6646107:53
UbugtuMalone bug 66461 in libgnome "edgy: places->network servers error" [Unknown,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6646107:53
dholbachoh ok07:53
dholbachgood work on that one, xeruno07:53
xerunodholbach,  :)07:54
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UbugtuNew bug: #76625 in gnome-utils (main) "baobab suddenly crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7662507:55
UbugtuNew bug: #76626 in f-spot (main) "screensaver broken in feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7662607:55
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Laibschdholbach: re https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuQA?, I promise to adhere to 1), I have read the texts in 2) and I have triaged quite a few bugs both in ubuntu and outside.  I do have QA status for openoffice for example and have triaged - although infrequently - for years there07:57
Laibschdholbach: I am quite active recently with openembedded and have even got read-write access despite being an admitted non-dev without a clue about C++ and the like.07:57
Laibschdholbach: Stuff I did in ubuntu is at http://tinyurl.com/y9nga9 although I believe that link lacks the ones that were fixed in the meantime.07:57
Laibschdholbach: I can provide further URLs with bugs I triaged if you want to look at them.07:57
dholbachLaibsch: that sounds pretty cool - sfllaw: will you do the honours?07:57
dholbachLaibsch: sfllaw normally does the ubuntu-qa approvals07:58
LaibschOK, you were listed as admin so I contacted you.07:59
sfllawLaibsch: Yup, that's fine.07:59
sfllawLaibsch: Looking.07:59
dholbachLaibsch: I'm the backup admin, lurking somewhere in the back of the room. ;-)07:59
sfllawLaibsch: I think you can Confirm 40552 now that there's log info.08:00
sfllawAnd since it's the most useful report there, you can probably mark the others duplicates.08:00
sfllawBug 68849 probably needs some attention from you again.08:02
UbugtuMalone bug 68849 in update-manager "Error while updrading from Dapper to Edgy" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6884908:02
sfllawBut things look pretty good.08:02
Laibschsfllaw: I usually hesitate to confirm bugs I have not experienced myself.  But I guess I need to learn about the semantics of things at ubuntu BTS.  These are always slightly differing.  OE for example has a weird interpretation of the "Assigned" status.08:02
sfllaw"Assigned" means I'm responsible for it.08:02
sfllawAnd "Confirmed" means that there's enough information for that bug.08:03
LaibschIn OE it means "I am working on it" ;-)08:03
LaibschOE == openembedded08:03
sfllawAh.08:03
sfllawBut you are!08:03
sfllawIf you're having a conversation with the reporter.08:03
sfllawYou're not working on fixing it, but that's Assigned+In Progress.08:04
sfllawOr Assigned+Confirmed.08:04
Laibschno, no I was talking about how semantics of stati in project BTS differ and gave OE status for "assigned" as an example.08:04
sfllawRight.08:04
LaibschWas not talking about ubuntu in this case.08:04
sfllawI thihkn bug 74558 is a support request.  It's OK to Reject that bug.08:05
UbugtuMalone bug 74558 in Ubuntu "websites don't accept my password" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7455808:05
sfllawYou can suggest he contact answers.launchpad.net or use the text in Bugs/Responses.08:05
LaibschJust illustrating the need to learn about the meaning of the stati in ubuntu and the general importance of being careful to interpret the differences between different projects.08:05
UbugtuNew bug: #76506 in hwdb-client (main) "hwdb-gui crashes on close" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7650608:05
UbugtuNew bug: #76627 in nautilus (main) "Nautilus crashes on file browser window reload" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7662708:05
UbugtuNew bug: #76628 in Ubuntu "Dapper needs an updated 'Service Pack' CD image" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7662808:05
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sfllawLaibsch: Welcome to Ubuntu QA!08:06
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Laibschsfllaw: Thanks.08:08
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ash211hey, I'd like to join QA too08:12
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ash2111) I promise to be polite but #5958608:12
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ash211bug #5958608:12
UbugtuMalone bug 59586 in ubiquity "Unable to install Ubuntu" [Undecided,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5958608:12
ash2112) I've read both pages08:12
ash2113) and I've done a fair amount of triaging https://launchpad.net/people/ash21108:13
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sfllawash211: Being diplomatic is good.  Bug 59586 is pretty close.08:15
UbugtuMalone bug 59586 in ubiquity "Unable to install Ubuntu" [Undecided,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5958608:15
sfllawLooking at +assignedbugs08:15
UbugtuNew bug: #76568 in synaptic (main) "Can't select and copy information about a package" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7656808:15
ash211i got a good job email for that one08:15
UbugtuNew bug: #76629 in openoffice.org (main) "openoffice.org-core vos::OTimerManager::lookupTimer() SIGABRT crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7662908:15
ash211I tend to subscribe to bugs rather than assign myself to them08:16
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sfllawash211: Yay!08:17
sfllawash211: Please assign bugs when you are putting things into Needs Info.08:17
ash211Will do08:17
sfllawash211: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage has tips on this.08:17
sfllawThanks.08:17
sfllawash211: Looks good.08:19
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sfllawWelcome!08:20
ash211thanks08:20
UbugtuNew bug: #76630 in gnome-utils (main) "gnome-screenshot crashes feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7663008:20
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DktrKranzhi everyone08:24
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DktrKranzcould I ask some advices about Bug 53827?08:24
UbugtuMalone bug 53827 in git-core "Please ship libgit.a" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5382708:24
sfllawDktrKranz: Hi.08:25
UbugtuNew bug: #76417 in kdepim "Kontact toolbar messed up when using ActionList" [Unknown,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7641708:25
UbugtuNew bug: #76512 in synaptic (main) "Edgy Synaptic filter section list is empty" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7651208:26
UbugtuNew bug: #76632 in gnome-screensaver (main) "screen does not unlock after locking" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7663208:26
DktrKranzthat bug asks for a shared library which is not packaged in Ubuntu nor Debian08:26
DktrKranzhi sfllaw08:26
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shrifthey guys08:26
shriftI noticed that the package "gdb" the gnu debugger, is not tracked at all in malone. Is there somewhere else I should report a bug for this?08:27
DktrKranzafter a quick read at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses, it seems it is the "new software not already in Debian" case08:27
sfllawDktrKranz: I think that's slightly different, because it's already a source package.08:28
sfllawDktrKranz: I think you can confirm a Wishlist bug to create git-dev.08:28
sfllawYou might want to change the Title to "Please ship libgit.a in a new git-dev package."08:28
DktrKranzok08:29
DktrKranzcould you please update Importance of such bug?08:29
UbugtuNew bug: #76633 in anjuta (universe) "Anjuta 1.2.4a hangs while configure and make a project" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7663308:32
UbugtuNew bug: #76634 in gnome-screensaver (main) "Screen won't unlock" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7663408:32
sfllawDktrKranz: Gladly.08:32
shrifthey hey... that's my bug. : )08:32
UbugtuNew bug: #76635 in gaim (main) "usr_bin_gaim.1000.crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7663508:36
DktrKranzsfllaw, bug modified following your advice08:36
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sfllaw DktrKranz Thanks.08:40
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shriftso does anybody know what to do when gdb causes my system to freeze?08:40
LaibschLooking at bug 73873.  I want to ask a question, set to needsinfo and assign myself.  Malone requires I set an importance.  I cannot answer this yet.  Is this the desired behaviour of Malone or is this a bug? ;-)08:41
UbugtuMalone bug 73873 in uim "Japanese language input method (SCIM) in EDGY" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7387308:41
shriftcan anyone help me get a backtrace on evolution, WITHOUT using gdb?08:41
orion2012any suggestions for handling #46898?08:43
orion2012bug 4689808:43
UbugtuMalone bug 46898 in Ubuntu "Mouse freezes in Linux after using KVM to switch between PCs" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/4689808:43
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sfllawLaibsch: It requires you to set importance?08:44
sfllawshrift: gdb is the way to go.08:44
shriftsfllaw: yeah, but it causes my system to freeze08:44
sfllawshrift: That seems odd that it freezes you system, though.08:44
shriftsfllaw: indeed.08:45
shriftsfllaw: unless it just suddenly takes all of my processor for something.... for a moment I can click around, but then it seems to freeze everything up.08:45
sfllaworion2012: Get the user to run cat /dev/mice/input08:45
sfllawThey should see something go by whenever they wiggle the mouse.08:45
sfllawIf the KVM switches, does anything happen?08:46
DktrKranzshrift, you could try to login in a virtual console and grab any kernel oopses, if any08:46
sfllawIf they unplug the mouse and plug it back in, does it fix things?08:46
shriftdktrkranz, if I understand you right, you mean hitting ctrl+alt+f1 right?08:46
DktrKranzyes08:46
shriftdktrkranz: becaues I am not able to login there after I run gdb, like I say, complete system freeze08:47
DktrKranzi think you have to export DISPLAY in order to launch evolution08:48
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dholbachsfllaw: do we have some documentation somewhere that says that the importance of a bug is more a tool for a developer to organize his workload?08:50
dholbachsfllaw: I think it's important enough to point out.08:50
DktrKranzdholbach, maybe in open week logs? i think i've read something about it08:51
sfllawhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance is close.08:51
sfllawI've clarified this a bit.08:52
dholbachah, that's better08:52
dholbachthanks sfllaw08:52
dholbachi hope that clarifies it a bit08:52
DktrKranzwhat do you mean with "It would be improper to change the importance while this developer is still responsible"?08:54
orion2012how should bug 49957 be closed and should it be marked as affecting something more specific?08:54
UbugtuMalone bug 49957 in Ubuntu "[dapper]  Lose mouse with psmouse module and keyboard slow using a kvm" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/4995708:54
sfllawDktrKranz: It means changing the importance of a Confirmed Assigned bug will upset someone's task order.08:55
UbugtuNew bug: #76636 in banshee (universe) "crashes on playing first song after starting" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7663608:55
sfllawDktrKranz: And will probably make someone grumpy for at least five minutes.08:55
DktrKranz:D08:55
Laibschsfllaw: yes, it did.08:56
Laibschsfllaw: Now this really is not funny.  Malone forgot the text I had entered when it threw the error.08:56
DktrKranzso, if a developer is going to work on a given bug (he put himself as assignee), importance shouldn't be changed, right?08:56
sfllaworion2012: That's Fix Released, as it went away with a new version.08:56
sfllawDktrKranz: Right.  Or someone else assigns it to her.08:56
sfllawLaibsch: :(08:57
DktrKranzok, thanks ;)08:57
orion2012sfllaw: should it be marked as affecting linux-image even though it was never actually confirmed? basically, given the bugsquad's general disgust for bugs filed on Ubuntu, should steps be taken to assign packages without confirmation?08:59
orion2012not assign, mark as affecting08:59
UbugtuNew bug: #76637 in meta-gnome2 (universe) "gnome-panel-relatorio" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7663709:01
orion2012err, "linux" rather than "linux-image"09:02
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UbugtuNew bug: #76639 in sudo (main) "sudo: timestamp too far in the future" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7663909:05
UbugtuNew bug: #76638 in rt2x00 (universe) "Cannot build against 2.6.20 (INIT_WORK change)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7663809:06
LaibschHow do I see all bugs in uim (upstream)?09:07
DktrKranzLaibsch, https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/uim/+bugs09:07
LaibschDktrKranz: no, that is the ones in ubuntu.  I want the upstream ones.  There must be an URL.  I have visited it earlier.09:09
DktrKranzdo you mean upstream bugtracker?09:09
LaibschNo, I mean bugs marked with "uim (upstream)"09:10
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LaibschDktrKranz: look at bug 69020.  It affects both upstream and ubuntu.09:11
UbugtuMalone bug 69020 in uim "update-manager failed for configuring uim-common" [Unknown,Unknown]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6902009:11
sfllaworion2012: Well, if we don't know which package is responsible, there's no point in putting it in one.09:11
LaibschI want not a list of bugs in ubuntu, but in upstream.09:12
sfllawThat's available in Advanced Search, I believe.09:12
sfllawLaibsch: Or do you want something for uim (upstream) in particular?09:12
DktrKranzIn advanced search there is a similar option, but it hides such bugs09:12
sfllawAh.09:13
sfllawDamn.09:13
sfllawThat's no good.09:13
DktrKranzi agree09:13
Laibschsfllaw: No, advanced search (which I don't find particularly advanced :-( ) does not have it.  I just stumbled across it by accident now: https://bugs.launchpad.net/products/uim/trunk/09:14
sfllawLaibsch: Excellent.09:14
Laibschbut it's empty.  So probably not what I was looking for, either.09:14
LaibschWhatever.  I was looking for one particular bug that IIRC was marked for upstream but not for ubuntu itself.09:15
LaibschHere it is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/products/uim09:15
Laibschbug 312009:16
UbugtuMalone bug 3120 in uim "UIM frequently crashes programs when switching input methods" [Unknown,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/312009:16
sfllawhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/products/uim/+bugs09:16
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LaibschAnd my IIRC was incorrect anyways.09:16
sfllawLaibsch: It seems to be fixed in Ubuntu according to this bug.09:16
cypher1ogra, hi09:18
UbugtuNew bug: #76640 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "linux-image-2.6.20-2: unable to boot Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7664009:20
UbugtuNew bug: #76641 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "Atheros wifi0 device not being created by loaded ath_pci module" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7664109:25
Laibschwow, this "importance" field is required stuff is annoying and totally broken.  Now Malone even threw a bug even though the importance field had already been set.  Where do I report bugs on Malone?09:30
UbugtuNew bug: #76642 in kdbus (universe) "kdbus crashing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7664209:31
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UbugtuNew bug: #76643 in tomboy (main) "searching makes notes wider" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7664309:40
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UbugtuNew bug: #76645 in meta-kde (main) "changes in kmenu disappear" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7664510:01
UbugtuNew bug: #76646 in gspca (universe) "new upstream release" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7664610:01
Laibschre bug 53244: where is the information for the menu stored?  I want to find out what package installed that menu entry the user was clicking on.10:02
UbugtuMalone bug 53244 in uim "Wrong link or dependency" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5324410:02
UbugtuNew bug: #76552 in firefox (main) "Firefox Crash when loading a page in a background tab" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7655210:06
UbugtuNew bug: #76648 in Ubuntu "When goes to screensaver, don't accept the password" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7664810:06
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zoydber3Laibsch: I think menu entries are handled by .desktop files10:07
bddebianLaibsch: Should be /usr/share/applications/<app>.desktop10:08
Laibschbddebian: Thanks.   Exactyl what I needed.10:09
bddebianNP10:10
UbugtuNew bug: #76522 in update-manager (main) "libgl1-mesa-glx_6.5.1~20060817-0ubuntu3 appears broken" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7652210:11
UbugtuNew bug: #76569 in rocks (universe) "rocks crashes when you launch them" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7656910:11
UbugtuNew bug: #76649 in yelp (main) "yelp displays Sans font as ugly bitmapped times" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7664910:11
bddebianhaha at 7656910:11
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UbugtuNew bug: #76436 in firefox (main) "Help crashes on launch" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7643610:19
UbugtuNew bug: #76652 in kino "Error writing to KINO/MJPEG audio filter - aborting" [Unknown,Unknown]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7665210:26
UbugtuNew bug: #76653 in fontconfig (main) "Times, Helvetica, and Courier show up as bitmap fonts" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7665310:26
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LaibschShould 69020 be assigned to MOTU devs and if so what is their nick/address to assign to?  I believe it should be since a) it is a universe package and b) omote@debian.org seems to be inactive in launchpad.  uim packages are in general in very bad shape, missing essential files (regression from dapper) and breaking the dapper-> edgy upgrade severely (happened to me)10:32
Laibschbug 6902010:32
UbugtuMalone bug 69020 in uim "packaging bugs in uim prevent upgrade to edgy" [Unknown,Unknown]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6902010:32
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UbugtuNew bug: #76429 in thunar (main) "All files not always visible in "open location" list" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7642910:40
UbugtuNew bug: #76655 in update-manager (main) "Feisty update-manager break's" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7665510:40
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UbugtuNew bug: #71909 in firefox (main) "Firefox crash" [Undecided,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7190910:45
UbugtuNew bug: #76425 in thunar (main) "Opening location by typing "/" does not give list of files in root folder" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7642510:45
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UbugtuNew bug: #76493 in democracyplayer (universe) "Democracy player won't start [feisty] " [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7649310:55
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cypher1i am having lot of people reporting with not able to unlock with gnome-screensaver11:07
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UbugtuNew bug: #76657 in democracyplayer (universe) "Doesn't have a .desktop file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7665711:10
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UbugtuNew bug: #76658 in kvirc (universe) "Kvirc fails to register itself in gnome menu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7665811:15
jhaitas_anyone else have breakage with evolution-data-server?11:16
LaibschIs there "an accepted way" to confirm bugs for a specific version of ubuntu?  It seems Malone is really versionless which would be a shame.11:16
ogracypher1, i'll look into it tomorrow morning, the logs attached to the bugs are not very informative and i cant reproduce it locally here ...11:17
sfllawLaibsch: It's OK just to confirm bugs themselves.11:18
sfllawYou can put the version number effected in the Description.11:18
sfllawEdit Description/Tags is the link that will let you do this.11:18
jhaitas_anyone else have breakage with evolution-data-server?11:18
cypher1ogra, ok no problem.. is there any issues you are now aware with pam_unix interaction and gnome-screensaver with the latest debian merges11:18
cypher1ogra, i saw one claiming with gnome-screensaver 2.16.1 the problem is not there11:19
UbugtuNew bug: #76659 in Ubuntu "Ruby crash with libxml" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7665911:20
ograit wasnt there with 2.17.311:20
ograit seems to be caused by a recent change11:21
cypher1ogra, can be a pam issue also right ?11:22
Laibschsfllaw: Mmh, I don't think so.  Most of the bugs I read today were dependent on version.  This is a VERY important piece of information.  Sometimes you can infer from the reporting date (fixed in edgy, but reported this summer, no candidate for an SRU -> set to fix released)11:22
ogracypher1, yes11:22
ograbut i wont be sure until i looked deeper or get more info ...11:23
Laibschsfllaw: Description is really just a crook.  you should be able to search on this field.11:23
ograi updated bug #7663211:23
UbugtuMalone bug 76632 in gnome-screensaver "screen does not unlock after locking" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7663211:23
ograand hope i get more info until tomorrow ...11:23
ogranight all11:23
sfllawLaibsch: Well, this is true.11:23
sfllawIt's also something that we've got in the Launchpad pipeline.11:24
LaibschOh, got to know.11:24
LaibschAre you a launchpad dev?11:24
sfllawLaibsch: Nope.11:24
sfllawLaibsch: I just bother them every few months.11:24
Laibschsfllaw: bother them more often ,-)11:25
sfllawLaibsch: As often as I can!11:25
cypher1ogra, thanks11:25
ajmitchsfllaw!11:25
sfllawajmitch: Andrew!11:25
cypher1ogra, there is a strace available in the dup of bug 7663211:25
UbugtuMalone bug 76632 in gnome-screensaver "screen does not unlock after locking" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7663211:25
ajmitchhow are you?11:25
sfllawajmitch: Not too bad, you?11:26
ajmitchalright11:26
ajmitchlooking forward to a holiday11:26
ajmitchthen I can do more ubuntu work for a couple of days :)11:26
sfllawajmitch: You can triage bug 76662 right now.11:27
UbugtuMalone bug 76662 in imagezoom "Preferences dialog is empty in Firefox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7666211:27
sfllaw:)11:27
=== ajmitch is not at an ubuntu box right now, either :)
Laibschsfllaw: How do I prevent Malone from sending me mails on changes *I* make?11:27
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sfllawUhm...  You can't.11:28
sfllawYou can filter them out using your mailer program, though.11:28
UbugtuNew bug: #76539 in gedit (main) "Strange Gedit startup/no startup at all" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7653911:30
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yuriyhi, should stuff like bug 39635 be rejected?11:33
UbugtuMalone bug 39635 in kdebase "konqueror wont start on Xgl with compiz" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/3963511:33
yuriycause xgl isn't supported and we have aiglx now?11:34
ryanakcasfllaw: Hi, I had applied to ubuntu-qa sometime in July or August...11:34
sfllawryanakca: Hello!11:34
ryanakcasfllaw: did you want a link to my lp bug list?11:34
sfllawryanakca: That would be good.11:34
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ryanakcasfllaw: https://bugs.launchpad.net/people/ryanakca/+assignedbugs11:35
UbugtuNew bug: #76660 in Ubuntu "Installation Problem IOError: [Errno 30]  Read-only file system" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7666011:36
UbugtuNew bug: #76661 in ekiga (main) "[RFC]  ekiga does not enable dbus" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7666111:36
UbugtuNew bug: #76662 in imagezoom (universe) "Preferences dialog is empty in Firefox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7666211:36
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joumetalclosed #76425 as fix released :)11:37
joumetalbug 7642511:37
UbugtuMalone bug 76425 in thunar "Opening location by typing "/" does not give list of files in root folder" [Undecided,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7642511:37
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sfllawryanakca: Looking.11:39
UbugtuNew bug: #76663 in imagezoom (universe) "Removing mozilla-imagezoom corrupts Firefox's global configuration" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7666311:41
ryanakcakk11:41
=== gnomefreak finally hit 1 mil. karma :)
ryanakcalol11:42
=== sfllaw hugs gnomefreak!
=== gnomefreak hugs sfllaw
ryanakcagnomefreak: support requests are helpfull, but then, so is triaging11:42
gnomefreakryanakca: i dont ever see new support requests like i did at one time11:43
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ryanakcano?11:43
gnomefreaknope not in email11:44
=== ryanakca doesn't get why people would use support requests instead of googling, forums, (k/x)ubuntu-users mailing lists and IRC
gnomefreakjust another way to help people :)11:44
sfllawryanakca: Did you take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuQA?11:46
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ryanakcayep11:46
sfllawHmm, do you agree to points 1 and 2?11:47
UbugtuNew bug: #76532 in kdebase (main) "ksysguard is not run as root" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7653211:47
ryanakcasfllaw: definitly in case 1, and in case 2, yes11:47
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ryanakca76532.... I thought I had triaged that already... and it's a new bug?11:48
sfllawryanakca: Maybe it's a dup.11:48
gnomefreakits not new its confirmed11:48
gnomefreaksometimes ubugtu does that11:49
ryanakcahttps://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnuchess/+bug/76532/comments/111:49
sfllawThat's funny.11:49
UbugtuMalone bug 76532 in kdebase "ksysguard is not run as root" [Undecided,Confirmed] 11:49
sfllawIt must be backlogged.11:49
gnomefreaka change on bug sends another notice11:49
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ryanakcaah, might want to change it to "Updated bug: #randomnumber in myapp (myrepo), etc"11:49
gnomefreakthats seveas job ;)11:50
ryanakcayep11:51
=== ryanakca might write a patch for it... once he finishes learning python
gnomefreakis there ever an end to learning python?11:52
Seveasit's just backlog11:52
Seveashe was down yesterday11:52
gnomefreakah11:52
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SeveasI did s/courier+insane mail setup/postfix+dovecot+sane mail setup/ on the server11:52
Seveaspostfix FTW11:53
ryanakcagnomefreak: well, I'm at chapter 6 or 7 of O'Reilly's Learning Python11:54
gnomefreak:) good going thats further than i was able to get (i got busy with other things)11:54
Seveaspython is awesome11:55
UbugtuNew bug: #76664 in firefox (main) "crash after choosing "Save destination as" on a link" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7666411:55
Seveasbut the only way to learn it is by writing code11:55
ryanakcaprobably not the right channel to ask, but kubuntu member = ubuntu member?11:55
ryanakcaSeveas: yeah11:55
Seveasryanakca, correct11:55
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gnomefreaki guess these are just merges im seeing weird though11:57
sfllawryanakca: Welcome!11:59
=== sfllaw hugs ryanakca.
=== ryanakca hugs sfllaw
=== ryanakca wonders if there's a french ubuntu bug manager...
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=== gnomefreak hugs ryanakca congrats
ryanakcaty11:59
ryanakcaonly took me six months :)11:59
gnomefreakok back to work so i can go to bed sometime tonight12:00
ryanakcalol12:00
gokusandwich_hi, can someone give me a hand?12:03
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gokusandwich_i want to specify that this bug ( https://launchpad.net/bugs/50697 ) is fixed in Ubuntu, in general (in Edgy and up), but that it is still a problem in Dapper12:04
UbugtuMalone bug 50697 in poppler "Evince crashes upon attempting to select text, for certain PDF(s)" [Unknown,Fix released] 12:04
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