=== jabra_ [n=jabra@utopia.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:29] time to pick another merge lol === ivoks [n=ivoks@backup.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:30] hi [12:30] hiya [12:31] hi ivoks [12:31] i hate voodoo in debian/patches :/ === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-130-213.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:32] this guy adds sed scripts in debian/patches and runs them trough rules === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-130-213.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:32] should i follow his logic or do it like it should be done :) === jabra [n=jabra@utopia.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@pool-72-64-197-83.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lupine_85 passes ivoks a chicken [12:33] :) [12:34] debian & ubuntu specify no direct changes to the source :/ [12:34] this aren't direct changes [12:34] this is debian/patches [12:34] and this guy doesn't use patch to patch things up [12:34] he uses sed [12:35] weird [12:35] i would just use sed in debian/rules directly === gandalfn [n=gandalfn@i02m-87-89-253-156.d4.club-internet.fr] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [12:36] or run sed on patches, which are then applied... depending on context :) [12:36] urgh... i'm really not in the mood for sed scripts :/ [12:37] _Enchained: uploaded [12:38] <_Enchained> thanks sistpoty [12:38] thanks for you contribution, _Enchained ;) [12:38] <_Enchained> it's a joy for me [12:38] sistpoty: any advice? :) [12:38] ivoks: working on a merge? [12:39] sistpoty: yes [12:39] ivoks: how many sed scripts are there? [12:39] sistpoty: 3 [12:39] and each is called from rules [12:40] ivoks: I guess 3 small ones? Then maybe I'd apply them once, and kick them out, and ship the stuff in the diff [12:40] i really don't understand why he did it this way [12:40] ivoks: I assume, he wanted to keep the diff small [12:40] sistpoty: actually, bacula is allready merged, but FTBS === jabra_ [n=jabra@utopia.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:41] sistpoty: our newer libc-dev has variable that bacula was using [12:41] nice [12:41] 'tee' [12:41] it's not big problem, but... [12:41] ivoks: do you need to touch the sed scripts to fix this? [12:41] no [12:41] i would like to do it with patch [12:41] and i'll do it :/ [12:42] ivoks: I would go the way of least resistance... just modify the source and don't care about a patch-system [12:42] hm... [12:42] (but I'm lazy, and I don't like patch systems *g*) [12:42] we can't touch source [12:43] that creates lots of headache later :) [12:43] argh.... it's 00:43 [12:43] ivoks: why would that? (of course I mean source via plain .diff.gz, not orig-tarball) === gandalfn [n=gandalfn@i02m-87-89-253-156.d4.club-internet.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:44] or this this one of the tarball in the tarball thingy? 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[02:51] know* [02:51] hello bddebian [02:51] i did that ivman merge [02:51] :) [02:51] Good man [02:52] ah, good ole ivman === crimsun_ has FOND memories [02:52] heh [02:52] :) yeah i like it [02:52] crimsun_: When are you leaving us? [02:52] 10 hours [02:52] Doh === chrisj [n=tortoise@81.168.44.152] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:53] we'll miss you, honest [02:53] yeap :( [02:53] going where? [02:58] crimsun_: whould you know why i whould be getting a device busy for /dev/loop0 on the ubuntu livecd? === rexbron [n=rexbron@CPE001310b2d1d1-CM0012256e816a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:59] bhale: irvine>oakland>kowloon === awbassett [n=awbasset@206.135.97.35] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:59] crimsun_: but we'll see you again in a few weeks? [03:00] tomorrow for revu, then next wednesday [03:00] joejaxx: sorry, what's the context? when? where? [03:00] maybe unmounting it? [03:01] crimsun_: on the ubuntu edgy livecd [03:01] crimsun_: normally i use knoppix to do this [03:02] right, but when? [03:02] crimsun_: well in this case using losetup [03:02] try using the next loop device [03:02] i should be using dm_crypt but bah [03:02] crimsun_: i did [03:03] ioctl: LOOP_SET_STATUS: Invalid argument [03:03] interesting, haven't seen that on the 6.10 live cd [03:03] maybe i should use an older ubuntu cd [03:04] it will not matter as i am debootstraping anyway [03:04] hmm === mr_pouit [n=silk@LAubervilliers-151-12-125-187.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:04] i am just wondering why i am getting that error though [03:05] hold on bbl booting fluxbuntu [03:09] ok [03:10] i am back [03:11] nope [03:11] it does not work on dapper either === Marsmensch [n=daniel@dslb-084-056-119-025.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:18] that is unfortunate [03:18] :\ [03:19] Heya Laser [03:19] +Jock [03:19] hello LaserJock [03:19] hi guys === ajmitch hopes etch releases in a few weeks, so we can use it at work [03:19] hey LaserJock [03:20] 2/3 of the motu trinity! [03:20] yay! === bhale acts reverent like [03:20] *cough* [03:20] heh [03:20] sorry === ajmitch should probably do more work on debian === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bhale too [03:24] since dajobe seems to have thrown in the towl [03:24] and beowulf pops up once a month [03:25] well, so what exactly is the point of waiting until it's released? [03:25] in my case, we have servers from a hosting provider [03:25] so it's a good thing to get etch pre-installed [03:25] do they do anything but security updates? [03:26] rather than dist-upgrade a production box to etch [03:26] ah [03:26] I have no problem doing a dist-upgrade, obviously [03:26] yeah, it would be good to get servers up to etch [03:26] but it takes time [03:27] I think my only Debian box will stay sarge [03:27] I'd like to update it but I need to stay with a 2.4 kernel === ajmitch is the same [03:29] I don't know if my old speedtouch USB will work with the kernel drivers in 2.6, without some pain [03:29] this is the first Debian release I've seen, it's interesting [03:29] I might replace it with a decent adsl2+-capable modem though [03:30] I'm stuck because of a proprietary driver for data acquisition === ajmitch has seen a couple of debian releases === rexbron [n=rexbron@CPE001310b2d1d1-CM0012256e816a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@202.183.119.104] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rexbron_ [n=rexbron@CPE001310b2d1d1-CM0012256e816a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:02] ajmitch, I have the same modem... [04:02] the blue sting ray... :S [04:03] blue or green? [04:03] well more like cyan [04:03] :D [04:03] yeah [04:03] with something like rev 0 firmware [04:03] I didn't try it after hoary though... [04:04] I gave up on it [04:04] heh [04:04] bought a === ajmitch has it plugged into a sarge box at home, with a 2.4 kernel [04:04] starbridge my [04:04] ajmitch, :D way to go... :D [04:05] with a script from cron that checks if ppp0 is down, if so, it reloads the usb kernel modules & reloads the modem firmware [04:05] most reliable way of keeping the connection going [04:07] Damn, geser is a machine === Admiral_Chicago [n=freddy@st074039212101.monm.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-091-243.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu_ [n=william@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:21] any core-devs about? [04:24] LaserJock: depends [04:25] I need a sponsor for a -proposed upload [04:25] what is it? [04:25] bug #75021 [04:26] https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+source/python-imaging/+bug/75021 [04:26] how much should I charge for uploads? [04:27] $$$ :) [04:29] hmm, well there are other core-devs so you'd have competition [04:30] I'm sure we could get together & agree on a standard rate :) [04:31] nothing wrong with a bit of price-fixing :) [04:31] bah, I'd have to get the TB to do some anti-trust work and break you up [04:32] who said they wouldn't be in on it? [04:33] well, maybe I'd have to go to the CC [04:33] surely mako would help [04:33] CC are all core devs at the moment [04:34] tsk tsk === ajmitch will consider taking a look at the debdiff later on this evening :) [04:44] Grrr [04:47] hi bddebian === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:48] Heya chillywilly [04:48] how can i find out what is using /dev/loop0? [04:48] it keeps saying resource busy === G0SUB [i=ghoseb@ubuntu/member/gosub] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:49] man that is annoying [04:49] fuser or lsof [04:52] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38033/ [04:52] fernando: thanks for that information btw [04:54] joejaxx: you're welcome [04:56] Has anyone else looked at fnfx? I don't think the changes are relevant anymore [04:58] What are said changes? [04:59] A build-dep on libtool, calling autoconf in rules and a couple of other such things [04:59] There was a patch for Hoary for acpi also but I'm not sure that's even relevant anymore [04:59] If there is a new Debian version, I doubt that's necessary. === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-130-213.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:05] sudo losetup -d /dev/loop0 [05:05] ioctl: LOOP_CLR_FD: Device or resource busy [05:05] rofl [05:06] oh man === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:20] imbrandon: ping [05:20] Heya Burgundavia [05:20] hey bddebian [05:21] hi Burgundavia [05:21] hey ajmitch [05:21] We had no binaries for diacanvas in Edgy nor do we have any in Feisty?? [05:23] bddebian: it never built [05:23] Yes, silly... I forget what it is. === Fujitsu_ remembers being attacked by Hobbsee for that :P [05:23] hehe [05:23] It was .. Hmm now I can't remember either === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@202.183.119.104] has joined #ubuntu-motu === daya [n=daya@202.79.37.177] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jikanter [n=jordan@c-24-12-220-77.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rexbron [n=rexbron@CPE001310b2d1d1-CM0012256e816a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rexbron_ [n=rexbron@CPE001310b2d1d1-CM0012256e816a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia_ [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Chandu_ [n=Chandu@203.129.255.178] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Chandu_ [n=Chandu@203.129.255.178] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [05:59] darn it, I'm trying to find a bug, but I can't find it :/ [06:03] LaserJock: what was the bug about? [06:03] well, something about not being able to hibernate because of some swap/kernel problem [06:04] which obviously gives me a bazillion results in LP [06:05] were there any other specifics [06:07] not really that I remember [06:09] Stupid freakin' diacanvas :-( [06:10] Why, bddebian? [06:10] FTBFS [06:11] Of course! [06:11] Damn Gentoo server... [06:11] Trying to install dspam. dspam wants MySQL 5... But that's going to break everything that uses MySQL... damnit. === fowlduck [n=nate@68-190-90-101.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ademan [n=dan@h-68-164-187-134.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:29] whatis dsfg about pysvn? [06:29] is it subversion? [06:31] jikanter: what is your question? [06:31] when a package is labeled with dsfg, that means that there is some sort of problem that may have to be resolved in the original tarball, is that correct? [06:32] As in remove some sort of non-free software component === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:40] jikanter: yep [06:40] thanks === dcraven_ [n=dcraven@CPE000f3d5d5cd1-CM00169256379e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:10] does a swap partition usually show up with a df -a ? [07:10] LaserJock: I don't believe so. [07:10] Indeed, it doesn't. [07:11] is there a way to tell if my system is actually using the swap partition [07:11] it seems not [07:11] free [07:11] yeah, just thought of that [07:11] interesting [07:11] no swap for me [07:11] = no hibernation [07:11] enable swap again then? [07:11] swapon! === FunnyLookinHat [n=david@67.175.74.85] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:14] well, that seems like a very temporary solution [07:14] no, it doesnt [07:14] cat /proc/swaps [07:15] nothing [07:15] then no swap :) [07:15] swapon -a ? [07:15] if a hibernate fails [07:15] it screws your swap [07:15] and you need to mkswap [07:15] also means the UUID= will change [07:15] so edgys UUID= for swap in /etc/fstab [07:15] needs fixing [07:15] well, why don't I just not use UUID? [07:15] or that [07:16] (UUID= changing is a result of having to mkswap [07:16] well, I'm looking at bug #66637 [07:16] not hibernating [07:16] a normal hibernate wont change the id of the swap [07:16] or at least [07:16] i assume it wont [07:16] perhaps it does === Lathiat pokes ubuntulog [07:16] err, ubugtu, which isnt there [07:17] could be related yet [07:17] yeh [07:17] well, it seems that Scott says that bug is only for people who ran mkswap [07:17] and I didn't [07:17] right but if you had a hibernate fail [07:17] but I'm not sure what my solution is supposed to be [07:17] it eats the swap [07:17] so it wont mount [07:17] so you need to mkswap [07:17] in which case, you'll hit that bug [07:17] by fail i mean you hibernated [07:17] but on next boot it didnt resume [07:18] and booted normally [07:18] hmm, I don't remember that happening but ok [07:18] well [07:18] put it this way [07:18] can you swapon the partition [07:18] if not, what does it say when you try? [07:20] Invalid Argument [07:21] more precisely: swapon: /dev/disk/by-uuid/f59bd815-d749-497d-aa92-fc2e2a2d572a: Invalid argument [07:21] can I just switch fstab to the right partition and it'll work? === SiberianFox272 [n=Siberian@user-0can29b.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dous [n=dous@124.104.13.161] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@pool-71-251-119-157.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zic_ [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === WikiMan [n=MatthewV@202.183.119.60] has joined #ubuntu-motu === engla [n=ulrik@kr-lun-116-144-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu_ [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-108-167.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:37] I've uploaded a revised package for pyspf for revu based on yesterday's comments. http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3833 I believe it's ready for REVU when someone is available. Thanks. === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:48] imbrandon: you around? === cormil__ [n=cormil@213.215.131.221] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.14] has joined #ubuntu-motu === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@196.207.32.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:30] Burgwork, pong [09:31] ello all [09:45] <\sh> moins === Seeker` [n=cjo20@ip-62-105-182-26.dsl.twang.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Marsmensch [n=daniel@dslb-084-056-119-025.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:00] hello [10:02] hi === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F75879.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:24] good morning [10:24] morning Daniel [10:24] hi daniel [10:26] hey gpocentek - you changed your nick? [10:26] hey Andrew [10:26] dholbach, looks like he succumbed to peer pressure :( [10:26] dholbach: yes, copying yours ;) [10:27] oh man :-) === gpocentek wants to become a new Daniel Holbach :) [10:29] dholbach!!! [10:29] I'm not sure if it's the best thing to take a leaf out of my book :) [10:29] heya siretart! [10:29] :) [10:30] dholbach: update about bzr-builddeb: Looks like I'm comaintaining the package now. Maintainer and upstream is James Westby, code looks clean, but needs python-debian synced from debian/experimental first. [10:30] oh NICE [10:30] siretart: you ROCK! [10:31] looks very smooth up to now, there are some loose ends in the code, but those other commands aren't really thought to the end yet [10:31] for everyday use, its usable [10:31] nice... that's really good news for everybody [10:31] right. I think I'll blog about it as soon as everything is ready in feisty [10:31] it already works on my feisty/amd64 workstation [10:32] Thanks a lot for that === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:dholbach] : Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Documentation | Add yourself to http://tinyurl.com/fgpgy to upload to REVU | IT'S THE REVU DAYS === ivoks [n=ivoks@backup.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:38] HAPPY REVU DAY :) === jinty [n=jinty@196.207.32.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MehdiHassanpour [i=d90b1061@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-2473cba3e4c73883] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:38] Noooooooo. === Fujitsu leaves hurriedly. === dholbach hugs Fujitsu [10:40] hi :) === Fujitsu runs away more quickly still. [10:40] Hi MehdiHassanpour. [10:40] ty for adding aspell-fa package to Feisty packages === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.14] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:42] we've uploaded ttf-freefarsi to debian unstable [10:42] will you add this package to Feisty repos too [10:43] It will be automatically imported if it is in unstable/main [10:43] yes, it's in unstable [10:43] Fujitsu: the debian import freeze is coming up soon [10:43] dholbach, this is true. [10:44] so our archive admins *might* need some prodding [10:44] how you'll be informed about the new packages in unstable ? === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:44] hey Hobbsee [10:44] Hey Hobbsee. [10:44] HAPPY REVU DAY! [10:44] Nyahahaha [10:44] YEEEHAAAA [10:44] MehdiHassanpour: how does ttf-freefarsi look? is it better than the existing farsi fonts? [10:45] looks good, and should be the only persian font very near to unicode [10:45] hey Fujitsu, dholbach [10:45] oh no! it cant be REVU day! === Hobbsee quickly /quit's [10:46] so, it's (a) REVU/HUG/MERGE day(s) now :) [10:46] tepsipakki: get reviewing :P === Hobbsee will cheerlead [10:46] MehdiHassanpour: nice... should it be the default for ar and fa locales? === dholbach hugs Hobbsee [10:46] actually, I'm thinking about making my first merge [10:47] tepsipakki: ROCK ON [10:47] It's about time === Hobbsee hugs dholbach, and notes that she wont actually be doing any of the work as a cheerleader :P [10:47] tepsipakki: yay! [10:47] dholbach: dejavu is default now [10:47] bddebian: ping? I'd merge beneath-a-steel-sky :) [10:48] MehdiHassanpour: ah right [10:48] we are working on dejavu too look better for persian too [10:49] shots of ttf-freefont http://sourceforge.net/project/screenshots.php?group_id=124702 [10:49] sorry ttf-freefarsi [10:50] they look REAL good [10:50] dholbach: do I need to inform you about packages we add in debian unstable ? [10:50] aspell-hy will be added soon [10:52] MehdiHassanpour: if you like us to have a specific version and we're in a freeze, then sure, I'm happy to take orders on that :) [10:53] dholbach: then how you'll be informed about new packges added in unstable ? [10:54] MehdiHassanpour: it's hard to find out - i check debian-devel-changes@, but it's easy to miss things in the load of uploads there [10:57] dholbach: MOTU team are doing great job :) thank you all [10:59] dholbach: how will packges come from Universe to Main ? [10:59] MehdiHassanpour: thanks a lot... and thanks for your work too [10:59] MehdiHassanpour: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMainInclusionRequirements [11:00] :-) [11:01] hmm, the change in beneath-a-s-s (!) is just a desktop file, which could be useful on debian too. Should I push it to debian first? === mcdodot [n=manolo@213.37.15.230] has joined #ubuntu-motu === neutrinomass [n=pandis@ppp128-80.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:04] According to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/nedit/, 5.5-2 is in Edgy, but I can only see 5.5-1 , which probably leads to bug 57808 [11:04] tepsipakki: sure [11:04] What happened to 5.5-2 ? [11:05] 1:5.5-2ubuntu1 is in edgy [11:05] according to the page you mentioned [11:05] dholbach: It's not though! [11:05] look in the left second portlet [11:05] it's in DEPWAIT [11:05] so it hasn't built [11:05] only the source is there [11:06] dholbach: true - it's waiting for libmotif-dev, since july === rob [i=RobertSt@freenode/staff/rob] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:08] why though? it apparently poses no requirements on the libmotif-dev version, and libmotif-dev exists .... [11:10] it's in multiverse [11:10] hey, debuild -S is giving me "gpg: [stdin] : clearsign failed: secret key not available" even though I just restored it from backup (this is a fresh-ish edgy install) and marked it ultimately trusted, is there anything else I need to do? [11:10] However the following packages replace it: [11:10] lesstif2-dev [11:11] so rebuild nedit with lesstif2-dev [11:11] rob: do you have a gpg key on that machine? [11:11] rob: specify the key wiht -k [11:11] rob: and add it to your .bashrc, even better [11:11] dholbach: yes, both the public and private ones [11:12] dholbach: from the debian changelog : Replaced lesstif2 with libmotif-dev, because with ubuntus new lesstif2 version nedit doesn't work [11:12] I use this in .bashrc (as Hobbsee said): [11:12] export DEBFULLNAME='Daniel Holbach' [11:12] export DEBEMAIL='daniel.holbach@ubuntu.com' [11:12] neutrinomass: then you need to tell the buildd admins to move nedit to multiverse too [11:12] neutrinomass: universe stuff can't build-depend on multiverse stuff [11:13] dholbach: So I open a new bug and subscribe the archive to it ? [11:14] neutrinomass: archive-admin, yeah - I should think so [11:14] ah, yeah that worked, now to remember my passphrase :( [11:14] dholbach: ubuntu-archive? [11:15] neutrinomass: what Hobbsee said *poors himself another cup of tea* [11:15] . o O { lalala } [11:15] Hobbsee, dholbach: Ok, thanks. I'll subscribe stephan hermann as well who did the debian upload [11:16] hehe === jinty [n=jinty@196.207.32.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-b082c214204bbea2] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dcraven [n=dcraven@CPE000f3d5d5cd1-CM00169256379e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tudenbart [n=willi@xdsl-81-173-226-251.netcologne.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:27] neutrinomass: he is \sh in this channel [11:28] siretart: I didn't remember if it was \sh or sh\ :p === cypher1_ [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-40827e660625f86d] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar_ [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:30] oh dear, my vmware window has no fonts again [11:32] ouch [11:33] it's happened before [11:33] part of the fun of running feisty [11:33] ah [11:33] which version of vmware? [11:33] server [11:33] so it's a 32-bit app on 64-bit ubuntu [11:34] it gets its own copy of gtk+ & pango [11:34] I have player going here for a windows xp install for itunes [11:34] yay my hyperion package build successfully [11:34] bddebian: filed bugs upstream about survex and b-a-s-s, they could be sync-able after a while === ajmitch spots an ia32-libs-gtk install a week or so ago, that could be it === tudenbart is now known as dothebart [11:41] ajmitch, the feisty amd64 kernel boots for you ? [11:42] depends, what problems are you having? [11:42] ajmitch, I'm poking around to see why it fails to boot on me. seems hang, but responds to the 3 finger salute [11:42] where does it hang? [11:43] it does take ~6 minutes to drop me to a busybox shell so that I can start md & lvm manually [11:43] ajmitch, shortly after "raid" setup, on the sata and usb drivers dialog [11:43] aha [11:43] so you've got the same problem [11:43] and I have sata raid and usb [11:43] so, I'm running edgys kernel. [11:43] which won't be fixed until udev runs mdadm, rather than the script being run before sata modules are loaded === Yagisan is glad he is not alone [11:44] you'll find that it will boot fine, if you have some patience & know what to run [11:47] :/ well, I'd only lose home while waiting a long time for it to boot [11:48] ah === ajmitch has / on LVM on RAID [11:48] so it's a bit more important [11:52] ajmitch, I did re-install edgy to move root off raid [11:53] why? [11:58] ajmitch: I assume the race isn't fixed yet, as I didn't notice relevant uploads. right? [11:59] I think so [11:59] Yagisan: in a bugreport I read, that booting with 'break=mount' and pressing ctrl-d afterwards makes your system boot [11:59] ugh === mikhail^ [n=dean@58.69.169.132] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon has his new system running *finaly* , well if you can call it running === ogra_ [n=ogra@p548AE3EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:00] heya siretart ajmitch [12:00] hey siretart [12:01]