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| Dvalin | fabbione: around? | 01:02 |
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| fabbione | Dvalin: i am now so to speak | 04:47 |
| Dvalin | still? | 05:50 |
| Dvalin | fabbione: what's the status of gcc 4.1.2 & kernel on sparc at your camp? | 05:51 |
| fabbione | Dvalin: gcc dunno.. what's in the archive... | 05:51 |
| fabbione | kernel we are going for .20 + some patches | 05:52 |
| Dvalin | okay, using 4.1 is no good for kernel it seems here | 05:53 |
| Dvalin | 4.0 works fine | 05:53 |
| Dvalin | :/ | 05:53 |
| Dvalin | so I blame the compiler | 05:53 |
| fabbione | the one we are using is good | 05:53 |
| fabbione | i am booting those kernels | 05:53 |
| Dvalin | compiled with gcc 4.1.2? | 05:58 |
| Dvalin | mine will only boot without display | 05:58 |
| Dvalin | but then again | 05:59 |
| Dvalin | other hardware etc. too | 05:59 |
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| fabbione | Dvalin: compiled with whatever we have in the archive now | 06:24 |
| Dvalin | okay | 06:25 |
| Dvalin | which kernel version was that again? | 06:25 |
| fabbione | .19 and .20-rc... | 06:26 |
| Dvalin | okay | 06:26 |
| Dvalin | I'll go ahead and try one of those then :) | 06:38 |
| Dvalin | btw. why is sparc not visible on packages.ubuntu.com? | 06:39 |
| fabbione | no idea | 06:40 |
| fabbione | i did never used packages.u.c | 06:40 |
| Dvalin | okay | 06:40 |
| fabbione | file a bug :) | 06:40 |
| Dvalin | nah | 06:40 |
| Dvalin | I'm just asking out of curiousity, couldn't care less for myself ;) | 06:41 |
| Dvalin | btw. there's one thing that puzzles me, why isn't different archs reported on sparc? eg. like sparcv8, sparcv9 etc. as i586, i686 etc. on intel? | 06:42 |
| fabbione | uhm? | 06:42 |
| Dvalin | eg. by 'arch' | 06:43 |
| fabbione | yeah but where.. | 06:43 |
| Dvalin | uhm, in general? by kernel?`:) | 06:43 |
| fabbione | you make no sense | 06:45 |
| fabbione | where do you want to read that information? | 06:45 |
| Dvalin | hmhm | 06:45 |
| fabbione | proc/cpuinfo? uname -a ? | 06:45 |
| Dvalin | uname -m for an instance | 06:46 |
| fabbione | because you don't need it | 06:46 |
| fabbione | the kernel is either 32 or 64 bit. all optimizations are autodetected and turned on at boot | 06:46 |
| fabbione | so there is no point for userland to know | 06:47 |
| fabbione | and you can still see the hw cap via glibc | 06:48 |
| Dvalin | why is there less of a need for it than on x86? | 06:48 |
| Dvalin | I'd still say there is a use for userland to know, eg. when building stuff..? | 06:49 |
| fabbione | fabbione@rainy:~$ LD_SHOW_AUXV=1 /lib/libc.so.6 --version | grep AT_HWCAP | 06:49 |
| fabbione | AT_HWCAP: flush stbar swap muldiv v9 v9v | 06:49 |
| fabbione | no there is no need to know.. how build needs to know what's doing | 06:49 |
| fabbione | all these extra automatic features have been proven to be a real disaster | 06:50 |
| Dvalin | oh? | 06:50 |
| fabbione | when you autodetect something at build time and thenD you distribute a precompiled binary on a machine that does not have that feature it's BA | 06:58 |
| fabbione | BAD | 06:58 |
| Dvalin | yeah, but that's why you specify the arch of binary ;p | 06:58 |
| fabbione | Dvalin: that's also why stuff works for us but not for you | 07:06 |
| Dvalin | uh | 08:15 |
| Dvalin | I don't see the relevance of that | 08:15 |
| Dvalin | actually, AFAIK you build for sparcv8 by default without packages saying anything about it NOT being compatible with sparcv7 which just 'sparc' usually implies ;p | 08:17 |
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