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murchadh_bhabaBrianSteffens, At a shell type mount to see what is mounted. If it isn't listed, sudo mount -t ext3 -o umask=000 /dev/hda1 /media/storage12:15
BrianSteffensmurchadh_bhaba in errors=remount-ro <- does the 'ro' mean read-only12:15
murchadh_bhabaBrianSteffens, Only on boot up if it finds errors.12:16
hudsyto give permisions the comand is chmod and what more to give all permisions?12:16
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BrianSteffensmurchadh_bhaba: sudo mount -t ext3 -o umask=000 /dev/hda1 /media/storage gave me wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock, etc etc12:16
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hudsyto give all permisions to a file/directory the comand is chmod and what more?12:17
BrianSteffenshudsy: sudo chmod username:username /directory -R12:18
BrianSteffenser lol12:18
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BrianSteffenshudsy: sudo chmod +rwx /directory -R12:18
hudsythe second?12:18
BrianSteffenshudsy yea i was thinking chown the first time12:19
murchadh_bhabaBrianSteffens, Can you bare with me, sudo mkdir /media/tmp if it doesn't already exist, then try the above mount command, but mounting it here instead.12:19
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hudsyok12:20
BrianSteffensmurchadh_bhaba mounting attempt on /media/tmp failed as well, same result12:20
hudsynow it says "segmentation fault"12:20
hudsywhats this??12:21
BrianSteffenshudsy: that's what happens when a program accesses ram wrong12:21
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hudsywell, can i do something then??12:21
murchadh_bhabaBrianSteffens, Simplify it just to see. sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /media/tmp12:21
hudsybecause installing java is giving me CRAZZZZZZYYYYY12:22
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BrianSteffensmurchadh_bhaba without -o umask=000 itworks12:25
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hudsyif it says segmentation fault, can i do something?????12:25
BrianSteffenshudsy what command gave you segfault?12:26
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hudsyim trying to install libunixprintplugin.so12:26
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hudsyim trying to install java12:27
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BrianSteffens!java12:27
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository12:27
BrianSteffenshudsy: try sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre?12:28
hudsyi dont know how to say in english what the console is saying....12:28
hudsybut it says it cant be installed becaus he hasnt candidate of instalation12:29
BrianSteffenshudsy what version of kubuntu are you using? edgy?12:29
hudsyyes12:29
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murchadh_bhabaBrianSteffens, sudo mount -t ext3 -o nouser /dev/hda1 /media/tmp12:30
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ubuntuhello12:30
BrianSteffenshudsy that's weird O_O i'm using it too and that went straight on for me12:30
hudsymmm....12:31
b0nnI have a package thats not installing properly, how do I tell apt to skip over it unless its needed for a dependency?12:31
hudsyit can be a repo??12:31
BrianSteffensmurchadh_bhaba mounted successfully12:31
hudsyit can be a repo??12:32
murchadh_bhabaBrianSteffens, First off let's check current permissions, ls -als /media12:32
BrianSteffensmurchadh_bhaba, drwxr-xr-x root filestorage /media/tmp12:33
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b0nnhmm fun, I cannot install hplip, nor can I remove it12:35
murchadh_bhabaBrianSteffens, Sorry, let's check current permissions, ls -als /media/tmp12:35
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murchadh_bhabab0nn, I had problems, and downloaded it off the HP site. Solved it for me!12:35
b0nnmurchadh_bhaba: Im not sure I even want it, its there as part of a borked upgrade12:36
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BrianSteffens!pastebin12:36
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)12:36
soulriderhudsy: its a repo12:36
soulriderthats why you cant install it12:36
soulrideryou need to enable miltiverse i believe12:36
hudsybut i have them endabled...i think12:37
BrianSteffensmurchadh_bhaba, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38173/12:37
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hudsyyes, i have them endabled...12:38
hudsywhattt can I dOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!??????????????????12:40
soulriderhudsy: i had the same problem and that was hte problem12:40
soulridermake sure you have them12:40
hudsywell i will paste it to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12:40
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hudsyhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38175/12:41
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fenerbahcheare X server and kde brother ?12:42
hudsydo you see the problem??12:42
hudsyyou say it to me??12:42
hudsyeeeo12:44
BrianSteffensmurchadh_bhaba, any ideas?12:47
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b0nnok I cheated, I edited the init script /etc/init.d/hplip, and in the switch/case the case for 'stop' I commented out do_stop, so its never run12:47
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murchadh_bhabaBrianSteffens, Sorry man, popped out. Give me a min to recap.12:48
b0nnThat meant no error was returned, which meant dpkg could remove the package12:48
BrianSteffensmurchadh_bhaba, ok :o) thank you so much for helping me by the way12:48
murchadh_bhabaBrianSteffens, No prob.12:49
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madshi12:54
madshow come bittorrent is so mad slow in kubuntu?12:54
joostis the mount smbfs fstab noauto <-> rc.local (fix) bug going to be resolved ...ever?12:55
madshi12:55
joostgnome people know what i mean i guess12:55
madshow come bittorrent is so mad slow in kubuntu?12:55
madsin azureus in win xp i was getting prime speed 700kb/s both up and down12:55
joost@mads, depends on your connection / peers12:55
madsnow, on the same torrents, in azureus for linux12:55
madsim getting below 2 kb/s COMBINED. o_O12:56
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joostgive the torrent some time to built up12:56
murchadh_bhabaBrianSteffens, sudo mount -t ext3 -o uid=1000,gid=50 /dev/hda1 /media/tmp12:56
madsjoost, k12:56
joostthis question isnt ubuntu related anyway12:56
joostbut i know it works just fine12:56
joost(o;12:56
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yelonek!elo12:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about elo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:59
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DarkWizdomwhat is .Trash-0 hidden folder for?12:59
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Omnifrogwhats the best way to install firefox 2 so it is available to all users in dapper?01:01
BrianSteffensmurchadh_bhaba, hey i was playing with permissions, had it mounted using no -o options.. and now i'm able to change owners and permissions01:02
fenerbahche!berlin01:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about berlin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:03
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fenerbahche!berril01:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about berril - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:03
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murchadh_bhabaBrianSteffens, Cool check how it is mounted in /etc/mtab, just so as you know what works; then it'll be easy to fix /etc/fstab if it isn't working on reboot. ??)01:04
murchadh_bhabaBrianSteffens, Or just type mount01:04
BrianSteffensmurchadh_bhaba, wow mtab?01:05
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BrianSteffensmurchadh_bhaba,  mtab is SO useful to me lol01:06
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murchadh_bhabaBrianSteffens, You're easy to help.01:07
BrianSteffensmurchadh_bhaba haha why do you say that01:08
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Skeez187Is it possible for me to emulate my existing XP partition under Kubuntu? (via VMware or something similar)01:15
_kuja_Skeez187: I don't think so01:15
flaccid!vmware01:15
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). Instructions for VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare01:15
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flaccidhowever wmware is not free01:15
_kuja_vmware does a seperate install within a virtual image01:16
Skeez187Oh man01:16
flaccid!qemu01:16
ubotuqemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo01:16
_kuja_It's not Free, but it's free, if you get my drift01:16
Skeez187I already have an XP installeed on another partition, the problem is I have no more space under Linux01:16
Skeez187lol I get it01:16
flaccidyou can vmware play an existing xp partition01:16
Skeez187Awesome01:16
matthew___kuja_, you mean *gasp* _steal_ it?01:17
Skeez187I'll never have to boot windows again then01:17
flacciduse qemu instead01:17
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_kuja_matthew__: hahaha, of course not01:17
fenerbahchedo most of linux distro's use X windowing sytem ??01:17
matthew__fenerbahche, yes01:17
matthew__fenerbahche, well, they use an xserver...01:18
_kuja_matthew__: I'm sure you already know what I meant, but just in case, it's not free, but it doesn't cost money01:18
matthew___kuja_, oh, I thought you meant d/l it and crack it...lol01:18
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Skeez187lol01:20
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KingArthur10quick question from a long time Gnomer looking for the switch.  Where do I add beryl-manager to automatically start?  Under gnome, I use sessions, but that doesn't exist here in kde that I saw.  Thanks in advance01:21
_kuja_KingArthur10: I think I have the page detailing that bookmarked, let me check01:21
dexter_http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/AiGLX#Configuring_Beryl01:22
KingArthur10thankee.  It's not that big of a pain to just alt-f2 and start beryl manager, but it would be nice to have it automatically.01:22
murchadh_bhabaBrianSteffens, You follow instructions and report back. Hehe...01:22
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BrianSteffensthanks for all your help man!! :)01:22
_kuja_or not :( sorry01:23
murchadh_bhabaBrianSteffens, ??) gn01:23
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_kuja_let me check what it took though01:23
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sorush20hi..01:24
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sorush20my files (pdf) are being redownloaded every time I try to do something with them, like save them as or when pressing back and forward..01:24
KingArthur10thankyou dexter :-) .  That worked great.01:24
_kuja_KingArthur10: First off, you need a /usr/share/xsessions/beryl.desktop file that looks like (will pastebin in a moment)01:24
sorush20is there any way that konqueror could access these files from cache.01:24
_kuja_KingArthur, you also need this script, /usr/bin/startberyl.sh, chmod +x'd to make it work, will pastebin it in a sec too01:25
KingArthur10@kuja : I don't have a beryl session file.  I just have XGL startup at the beginning01:25
KingArthur10it's slower, but it doesn't crash on me as much01:25
KingArthur10I just needed to add ln -s /usr/bin/beryl-manager ~/.kde/Autostart/beryl-manager to get the auto-start01:26
KingArthur10and everything works great now.  Thanks anyway :-)01:26
_kuja_KingArthur10: well, it's not hard to add01:26
sorush20I can't save opened pdf files while they are being viewed with kpdf in konqeror..01:26
sorush20the are opened in a frame and the save as option is unable to relize that I want to save the pdf file rather than the html fram..01:27
sorush20fram01:27
sorush20frame01:27
_kuja_KingArthur10: but whatever works for you01:27
KingArthur10thanks again :-)01:27
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BrianSteffensi have a usergroup called filestorage and two users (brian and media) that are both part of that usergroup. how can i make it so that when 'brian' creates a file or directory, 'media' can delete or modify it?01:30
_kuja_BrianSteffens: set the group permission +x (chmod g+x filedir -R)01:30
_kuja_I meant01:31
_kuja_w, not x01:31
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_kuja_cursed dyslexic fingers ... I think one thing and they type something else01:31
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BrianSteffensi have that problem as well ;p01:31
_kuja_gah, looks like this games memory's battery is failing ... all of my files were erased01:33
BrianSteffens_kuja_ : chmod: invalid mode: 'filestorage+w'01:33
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_kuja_erm01:34
_kuja_eh?01:34
_kuja_nonono01:34
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_kuja_chmod -R g+w <foldername>. That's it, the only thing to be changed is foldername, you don't specify the group, seeing as that was already set with chown01:35
_kuja_(or chgrp)01:35
BrianSteffensohh ok01:35
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BrianSteffens_kuja_ excellent, it worked, thank you :D01:38
_kuja_no problem BrianSteffens :)01:38
b0nn!upgrade01:39
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)01:39
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b0nnOk this upgrade is beginning to get on my nerves01:48
b0nnI have completed the steps per the wiki, and I *still* have an unbootable system01:49
matthew__b0nn, did you do  apt-get dist-upgrade?01:49
b0nnyes01:49
matthew__b0nn, you would be better doing a vanilla install...my dist-upgrade died as well...01:49
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GameCatdoes anyone have any idea why CD ripping would go faster for one user than another?01:50
b0nnfun01:50
matthew__b0nn, I would boot from a liveCD (Damnsmalllinux.org), recover any data, then wipe and reinstall01:50
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b0nnnot what I want to hear01:50
matthew__b0nn, be sure to make your /home on a different partition...that way if you have to do this again, all your data stays intact.01:50
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b0nnyes, I was about to say, /home is on a different partition (actually its on a different disk)01:50
b0nnThe problem is the settings for the applications01:51
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b0nnexample: where does Thunderbird keep passwords?01:51
b0nnditto for gaim01:51
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_kuja_for gaim, try ~/.gaim, it might save them in one of the files in there01:53
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Omnifrogwhats the best way to install firefox 2 so it is available to all users in dapper?01:55
unix_infidel!firefox01:55
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins01:55
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unix_infidelOmnifrog: all the user settings are stored in the respective users' home dir.01:56
b0nnThere is a 'fix' for my issue (someone had similar problems on debian) at http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2006/08/msg00057.html01:56
unix_infidelas long as they have access to the binary in $PATH then you should be kosher.01:56
Omnifrogyumm, thanks!01:57
b0nnThe problem there is, 1) the fix is incomplete 2) The root= parameter has been changed and 3) My partition map was borked by a windows install about 18 months ago01:57
b0nns/18/801:57
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ricaneliteWhat's up everybody is there a program so I could check my harddrive to see if it is failing reason being is because I tried to install Apple OS X  and it I cannot do anything as in installing the OS because it says there is a error on the Harddrive but now I have been running Ubuntu Linux Edgy for months now and my harddrive has not made any errors or i have not have any problems01:58
unix_infidelricanelite: you are on a PPC or Apple supported x86 hardware?01:58
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ricaneliteWell I have a Mac Mini G4 processor and a 512mb and 30 gig harddrive01:59
SchuenemannOmnifrog: I installed using this tutorial http://manetho.wordpress.com/2006/10/25/instalando-o-firefox-20-final-no-dapper/01:59
ricaneliteso I guess that will be a PPC?01:59
unix_infidelyes, that is ppc.01:59
ricaneliteokay cool01:59
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unix_infidelricanelite: please do not PM users without their permission.02:00
ricanelitesorry02:00
unix_infidelnp :)02:00
ricaneliteso what you think i could do02:00
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unix_infidelbadblocks and smart would be your best diagnostic tools.02:01
ricaneliteokay, where can I get that at? I'm new to Linux so I'm learning02:01
ricaneliteeveryday I read some tutors and FAQs so i could learn Unix and Linux world02:02
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SchuenemannHow can I remove a directory that is not empty?02:04
Schuenemannusing shell02:04
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chupiei'm trying to find a way to manually turn my cpu fan on ( on a laptop ), i've been searching google for a few days now.. but the only thing i found.. echo "force_on:1" > /proc/acpi/fan/FAN/state   gives me, permission denied..02:04
JucatoSchuenemann: rm -rf <directory>02:04
TheDebuggerSchuenemann: rm -rf02:04
JucatoSchuenemann: deletes everything in the directory, including the directory itself02:04
Schuenemannwhy the -f?02:05
unix_infidelSchuenemann: its a force flag.02:05
Schuenemannit says ignore non-existing files... so what?02:05
Jucatoit also says "never prompt"02:05
unix_infideli should have said $ rm -rf <directory> :P02:06
chupieor, another question.. how can i edit my trip_points file?02:06
Schuenemannwithout f it will prompt for every file?02:06
Jucatounix_infidel: you're baaaad :P02:06
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ricanelitehow do i run badblocks?02:07
unix_infidelJucato: what's so bad about that.02:07
unix_infideljust make sure he runs as non admin user.02:07
JucatoSchuenemann: not every file, but some files probably... not really sure as I've never used it without -f02:07
Jucatounix_infidel: it was a ":P" statement...02:07
Schuenemannprompted for read-only files02:07
JucatoSchuenemann: btw, %*BNEVER* (as if I can't emphasize it enough...) do "sudo rm -rf /" no matter who tells you02:08
JucatoSchuenemann: btw, *NEVER* (as if I can't emphasize it enough...) do "sudo rm -rf /" no matter who tells you02:08
Schuenemannthat was weird, I says "NO" to some files, but the directory is gone anyway02:08
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Schuenemannnevermind, it's a hidden one :p02:09
SchuenemannJucato: ok, won't do it02:09
DeviantCould someone help me with a wireless issue?02:09
unix_infidel!ask | Deviant02:10
ubotuDeviant: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)02:10
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matthew__!someone | Deviant02:11
ubotuDeviant: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?02:11
matthew__lol02:11
DeviantMy wireless pci card is showing up on Dapper and when i go into Wireless Assistant it scans and finds my router but when I try to connect it tries then says it has a connection failure.02:11
matthew__Deviant, make sure that the ip address is the same between your Network settings and Wlassistant settings02:11
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DeviantDoesn't automatic DHCP work?02:13
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bulwynklhow do I mount an old file system (LVM - presumably lvm2) so I can get the files off of it? I don't seem to ba able to find a clear answer anywhere. the LVM howto did not seemt o cover it (or I'm just missing it)02:14
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Skeez187Alright I give up02:15
Skeez187Someone please tell me how to install vmware02:15
unix_infidelDeviant: 1) Determine the model, make, and chipset of your wireless card 2) pastebin any errors about your card from dmesg  3) look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:15
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unix_infidelafter all of that is done, try and connecting your wireless card using the linux backend, eg using Konsole to issue commands like iwlist [interface]  scan, iwconfig [interface]  essid [your_AP's_essid] , dhclient [interface] 02:16
unix_infidelmaking sure to either prefix then with sudo or become root.02:16
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Jucatodoes anyone know how I can make KDE treat/use my right Alt key the same way it treats/uses my left Alt key?02:21
b0nnSkeez187: I put the following search string in google "install vmware ubuntu" and got this back as the first hit http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_vmware_server.  I used that page when I installed vmware on my pc02:21
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unix_infidelb0nn: sounds about right.02:22
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unix_infidel#vmware will be of better help to you.02:22
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Jucatobtw, trying to install vmware player or server? vmware player is available in the repositories (do no install using Adept)02:22
unix_infidelvmware server is far superior ro the player :P02:23
unix_infidelto*02:23
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deushello02:23
deusDo any of you know if there is a trick to booting a computer off of a DVD, like with a liveDVD?02:23
chupiew00t! i got my cpu fan to turn on02:24
SchuenemannJucato: maybe this can help you, I used it to make Win key a non-modifier one: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/faq/panel.html#id255276802:24
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JucatoSchuenemann: thanks. I'll take a peek :)02:26
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yamathan!microphone02:26
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about microphone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:26
yamathan!mic02:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:26
yamathanAh.02:26
yamathan!recordingaudio02:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about recordingaudio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:26
matthew!audacity | yamathan02:27
yamathanOkay, failing that ... Does anyone know how to mount a microphone from an nVidia nForce4 motherboard?02:27
ubotuaudacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4b-2.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1850 kB, installed size 5444 kB02:27
b0nnDoes anyone understand the 'new' 'code' in grub?02:27
yamathanThanks, matthew.02:27
b0nnI have this root=UUID=a84207ce-182f-44f2-9f10-87e3a6669b0d ro quiet splash where root= used to be02:27
chupieok, i have  a question... why wouldn't a sudo echo command work, but when i used sudo nano -w02:27
chupieit worked02:27
yamathanBut, uh, I need to install this mike, right?02:27
chupiein the end result that is02:27
b0nnI'm fairly sure its the reason my systems isnt booting02:27
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ziperon  ?02:28
Schuenemann!ru | ziperon02:29
ziperon)02:29
ubotuziperon:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke02:29
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yamathanWhich is to say I wish I had a Bluetooth dongle.02:29
Schuenemanndon't tell me about dongles, I can't make my infrared work02:29
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Jucatomy usb bluetooth dongle works fine...02:30
yamathanHuh.02:30
Jucatotoo bad my sister's IR dongle is broken so I can't test...02:30
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SchuenemannI wish you had one to teach me02:30
=== yamathan would use his Bluetooth microphone then. >: E
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Schuenemannyamathan: ebay has cheap dongles02:31
JucatoI wish I had one to learn :)02:31
JucatoI bought mine for around US$ 7.0002:31
yamathanAh, but all I have is this microphone for a tape deck.02:31
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SchuenemannI paid around that too02:31
_kuja_Schuenemann, the last thing I looked at that talked about infrared and dongles was in a howto thread on the ubuntuforums ... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28822902:31
Jucatonow all I have to do is to figure out how to sync korganizer with my phone's PIM... :(02:32
yamathanAre all of the PLF mirrors screwed up because the new mods changed servers or something?02:32
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Schuenemannbut that doesn't say anything about infrared02:33
Jucatoyamathan: have you installed anything from PLF? if not, you can just disable them if they're giving you troubles02:33
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yamathanAh, only one thing.02:33
_kuja_LIRC = linux infrared something something02:33
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Schuenemann!lirc02:33
ubotulirc: Linux Infra-red Remote Control support. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.0-5ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 308 kB, installed size 1544 kB02:33
_kuja_!lirc02:33
Schuenemannahh, thanks02:33
SchuenemannI will try that later02:33
deusIm having trouble getting kubuntu to boot from either a DVD or a CD on my computer02:34
Jucatoyamathan: what's that one thing? if it's w32codecs...02:34
yamathanNah.02:34
_kuja_I used superm1's howto for it, worked wonders for my remote :)02:34
fnord5kiso: cannot connect to X server :0.0 kiso: ERROR: Communication problem with kiso probably crashed.02:34
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yamathanI had to play a DVD for a visiting cousin, and naturally it was protected.02:34
fnord5i keep getting this from trying to run kiso02:34
Jucatoyamathan: did you check the wikis for playing dvd's?02:34
Jucatoanyway... /me goes to do laundry...02:34
yamathanYep.02:35
fnord5i keep getting this error when im trying to run kiso,any help02:35
yamathanI barely play DVD's on my computer.  It's quite sad, really.  :P02:35
Jucatoheh ditto :)02:35
Schuenemannwhat do I need to install to play wma and midi?02:35
avalonHow do I get a touchscreen working with Xorg?02:35
Jucatofor wma, you need w32codecs... midi is a bit more complicated...02:35
yamathanThat would be w32 codecs, which I'm uncertain if I can mention.02:35
fnord5deus:  is our bios setup  to boot from a cd/dvd?02:35
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deusyeah, at least thats what Ive been told02:36
Jucatoyamathan: it's ok. let the bot do the talking :P02:36
Jucato!w32codecs02:36
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:36
SchuenemannI suppose that means a lot complicated02:36
deusfnord5, I can boot off of cds fine02:36
JucatoSchuenemann: for midi? yes. w32codecs is easy. just download, right-click, and install02:36
deusfnord5, this is the first time I tried a dvd, but its supposed to be able to do that02:36
Jucatobbl02:36
fnord5what happens when you try the kubutu disc?02:36
Schuenemannso it's not from apt-get (wma) ?02:37
Skeez187So do I install VMware server and player?02:37
fnord5is it a seperate drivew then youv used before?02:37
chupieok, if force_on:1 turns on my cpu fan.. how can i turn it off?02:37
deusfnord5, well, the cd starts to boot up (it says kubuntu and everything) and halfway through it hangs02:37
deusfnord5, when I do the dvd, it makes grinding noises and then goes to my hard drive and boots grub.02:38
fnord5ive have a simmaler problem with mine,my dvd ran he live and installed fine but now it wont run it again02:38
fnord5whats grub say?02:38
fnord5you men the grub command prompt?02:38
deusoh, its just my regular boot loader.  It asks if I want to boot linux (mepis) or windows02:39
fnord5deus: GRUB>02:39
fnord5that?02:39
deusfnord5, no02:39
fnord5or something like it?or the grub menu?02:40
deusfnord5, yeah, its a menu02:40
Schuenemann!dkpg02:40
fnord5you dont have the option to start a kernal?02:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dkpg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:40
deusfnord5, ?02:40
fnord5!dpkg02:40
ubotudpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.02:40
Schuenemann!dpkg02:40
deusfnord5, I dont know02:40
fnord5is there anything on the menu?02:40
deusfnord5, well, my computer is a dual boot, and the menu options are "Mepis at sda3" "windows at sda2" and memtest02:41
fnord5i keep getting this error when im trying to run kiso,any help?02:41
fnord5kiso: cannot connect to X server :0.0kiso: ERROR: Communication problem with kiso, it probably crashed.02:41
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Schuenemann!sd02:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:42
fnord5i dont know what to say02:42
fnord5have you tried google for compatibilty issues with your pc and kub?02:43
deushow do I do that?02:43
fnord5well if you have a non-custom built computer it should have a make/model try searching that + kubuntu02:44
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fnord5then iff theres to many options that show up add words like problems02:45
fnord5or whatever02:45
deusokay02:45
fnord5hows mepis?02:45
fnord5work02:45
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Deviantokay, Is there anywhere I can download the linux header files for Kubuntu.. I can't on my comp no internet connection.02:46
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yamathanArgh!02:47
yamathanWhy can't I get microphone support?!  D:02:48
deusfnord5, well, Im giving it up because apparently It has an out-of-date version of x and therefore it is impossible to install any software on it.  kinda useless02:48
deusor, at least thats what Ive been told02:48
deusaparently "Kubuntu rocks on Dell Inspiron E1705"02:48
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deusthats what somebodys forum post said, if only I could run it02:49
fnord5you could update x after you install im preety sure,but i cant help you anymore02:49
deusI dont care.  Im not using mepis once I get kubuntu running02:49
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fnord5yamathan: click on the little speaker in the korner02:49
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fnord5right side kornr02:49
yamathanWait, what?  :P02:49
yamathanThis is KDE, right?02:50
fnord5yup02:50
joshuajtlhey folks, is kaffeine broken for everyone?02:50
yamathanOh, you mean in audacity?02:50
fnord5hence why i called it a korner02:50
fnord5nope bottom of the screen on the menu bar02:50
deus"korner"?02:51
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matthewjoshuajtl, nope02:51
matthewjoshuajtl, what's the problem? can't play .avi's?02:51
deushey, matthew!02:51
matthewdeus, hey!02:51
matthewdeus, did you get it all figured out?02:51
deusnope02:51
matthewdeus, you're the guy w/ the bad CD drive, right?02:51
fnord5i was being witty kubuntu is linux+KDE most of the programs have a k infront of them02:51
joshuajtlmatthew: no, just wont start... let me try from cli02:51
deusmatthew, I double its a bad CD drive, but thats what you guys think02:52
fnord5yamathan hit alt-f202:52
matthewdeus, nope, I thought it was the video card...02:52
yamathanfnord5, for some reason I'm not seeing a speaker button as such.02:52
matthewjoshuajtl, try killall kaffeine02:52
fnord5try alt f202:52
matthewthen do      kaffeine02:52
deusmatthew, Actuaally, I got to complete the CD scan, and it thought the cd was okay02:52
yamathanAlt+F2?02:52
yamathanNot doing anything.02:52
fnord5are you on kubuntu?02:53
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fnord5wierd02:53
yamathanYep.02:53
yamathanKubuntu 61.02:53
yamathan*6.1202:53
yamathan**6.1, even.02:53
matthewdeus, hmmm, I really can't think of what else to do...02:53
deusmatthew, if its the video card, can I somehow disable the video card?02:53
fnord5ok go to systyem konsol02:53
joshuajtlmatthew: heheh great that worked :)02:54
yamathanOh, intriguing!02:54
matthewdeus, does your computer have an onboard (integrated w/ the mobo) video card?02:54
matthewjoshuajtl, great!02:54
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yamathanalsamixer claims that the mic is off!02:54
deusmatthew, it a laptop02:54
fnord5yup02:54
fnord5are you in konsol?02:54
deusmatthew, ati mobility radeon x140002:54
fnord5type kmix02:54
yamathanIs there a way to turn it *on* from the terminal?02:54
fnord5yamathan: type kmix02:55
matthewdeus, I really don't know what to do...sorry...02:55
fnord5a mixer widow will open02:55
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fnord5and you can turn it on from there02:55
yamathanYAY.02:55
matthewdeus, how long did genii help you? you may want to talk to him when he gets on...02:55
yamathanThanks for the hint.02:55
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fnord5i keep getting this error when im trying to run kiso,any help?02:55
fnord5kiso: cannot connect to X server :0.0kiso: ERROR: Co02:56
fnord5mmunication problem with kiso, it probably crashed.02:56
fnord5!kiso02:56
ubotukiso: program to create manipulate and extract CD Image. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.3-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 343 kB, installed size 1048 kB02:56
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BrianSteffensi am trying to access a shared folder via samba in konqueror but it is only read-only. how can i connect to the shared folder with the username and password i set up on the server? konqueror doesn't ask me for identification02:56
fnord5yamathan: is it working?02:56
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yamathanI don't know how to test it working.02:57
deusmatthew, genii decided it was the cd drive and wanted me to run it on an external cd drive, but I dont have one02:57
yamathanMatters are not helped by the fact that apparently I have a "mic 1" and a "mic 2" listed as possible devices.02:57
fnord5turn them both on02:57
matthewdeus, does your computer have an onboard (integrated w/ the mobo) video card?02:57
yamathanfnord5, apparently enough it wants me to select one or the other as my "mic" input, period.02:58
deusmatthew, i dont know.  I know its a laptop with a ati mobility radeon x140002:58
fnord5do you have skype?02:58
matthewdeus, oh, right...darn02:58
matthewdeus, ok, I'm out of ideas....lol, sorry02:58
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fnord5yamathan: do you have skype?02:58
yamathanNah.02:58
yamathanI don't have Skype.02:58
deusmatthew, cant I run it in some sort of safe graphics mode?  The one on the menu didnt work02:59
matthewdeus, I don't know.02:59
deusmatthew, is there a trick to booting from a dvd?02:59
fnord5do you have a high speed internet conect?if you could get skype we could test out the mic and see which one has to  be on02:59
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fnord5unless there s aeasyer way03:00
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matthewdeus, nope...just make sure you've got a DVD drive ;-)03:00
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deusmatthew, haha.03:00
fnord5i dont really know i dont use my mic for anything03:00
deusmatthew, >;(03:00
matthewdeus, yeah, I know...03:00
yamathanYAY!03:00
yamathanIt works!03:00
yamathanI had it in the wrong input jack, WTF.  XD;;;03:01
Schuenemannyamathan: what did you do?03:01
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fnord5besides i were it when the ups man come its a head set one i plug the end of it into a busted plastic salt shaker and mumble into it alot03:01
yamathanEverything was set properly after I used kmix, but, uh ...03:01
yamathanWrong pink input jack.03:01
fnord5he thinks im crazy03:01
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fnord5cool03:01
deusmatthew, when does genii come on?03:01
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fnord5glad i could help03:01
matthewdeus, I don't know...he lives in Toronto, Canada...you know those Canadians! ;-)03:02
deusmatthew, its 5 there03:02
deusmatthew, wait03:02
deusmatthew, Im thinking vancouver03:03
Schuenemannyamathan: where did you test the mic?03:03
yamathanUh ...03:03
fnord5hey how do i switch to a diffrent server using konversation?im trying to get to the 2600 server03:03
yamathanI can HEAR it on the headphones, so, uh ...03:03
yamathanI assume that indeed it's working.  :s03:03
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Schuenemannfnord5: f2, then new server03:03
fnord5huh?on your head phones?03:04
Schuenemannf2 > server list > new server03:04
matthewdeus, why?03:04
jerpis there a trick to have windows open in the center of the screen instead of top left03:04
Schuenemannheadphones?03:04
matthewdeus, oh, right03:04
matthewlol03:04
matthewjerp, just move the window...the next time you open it, it should be where you left it.03:04
yamathanYes.03:05
Schuenemannwhat are those red and green lights on kmix?03:05
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yamathan*microphone singular03:05
b0nnIve found what I think is the problem, but I dont know how to fix it03:05
robotgeekSchuenemann: green lights are mute, red lights, i dunno03:05
b0nnBooting stops at /scripts/init-bottom/udev03:06
Schuenemannred says recording monitor, whatever that is03:06
b0nnI dont know how to remove that script or continue the boot process from busybox03:06
deusmatthew, is an older version of kubuntu, like dapper (6.06 i think) more likely to work?03:07
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matthewdeus, maybe, but I think the problem lies in the lack of drivers for your card...but feel free to try...you can always upgrade, if you feel the need.03:07
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jerpmatthew, I open the system settings window and use the menu in the titlebar to 'Move' to the center and then close it and reopen and it returns top left.  so I'm not thinking that it isn't adjusting my settings in this case03:08
matthewjerp, that's very weird...can't help you....sorry03:08
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BrianSteffenshow can i connect to a shared folder in konqueror with a username and password? it never asks and just logs me in as anonymous03:09
jerpthe continuous readjusting is a bit obnoxious03:09
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fnord5i thouhgt ubotu could run google searches?03:10
Jucatojerp: what are you trying to do again?03:10
matthewBrianSteffens, through ftp?03:12
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jerpjucato, is there a trick to have windows open in the center of the screen instead of top left03:13
matthewBrianSteffens, ftp://user:username@IPaddress/path/to/folder03:13
matthewI think03:13
BrianSteffensmatthew, no, through samba to a shared drive on my server03:13
yamathanDamn.03:14
yamathanNo dice on Skype.03:14
matthewBrianSteffens, no idea...sorry03:14
matthewlol, I say that a lot...03:14
BrianSteffenslol03:14
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Schuenemann!mid03:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:14
Schuenemann!midi03:14
ubotuTrouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo03:14
Jucatojerp: press Alt+F3 -> Advanced -> Special Window Settings -> check [ ]  Placement, set to Force, and then set to Centered?03:15
BrianSteffens:( when i access it from my windows box it works perfectly but conqueror doesn't ask for username or password so i don't have access to change or add files03:15
mariano_do you guys know how I can edit the grub or whatever thing when my computer starts03:15
mariano_I want to make it more graphical or erase some of the old kernels listed on there03:15
yamathanXD03:15
yamathanOh man!03:15
pv_yep03:15
yamathanI got the mic to work!03:15
pv_Y'a des FR ?03:16
jerpjucato,  yeah I tried that.  Recently I opened GwenView and it opened maximized, I went un-max moved it center and closed it.  to test it I reopened it and it was unmaxed but went top-left03:16
yamathanWhatever you do, don't select the green icons in Kmix.03:16
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Jucatomariano_: you can "erase" older kernels by uninstalling those kernels. but I suggest leaving at least one working older kernel for backup03:16
Schuenemannyamathan: green means mute03:16
Schuenemannyamathan: how did you set it to work?03:17
yamathanI learned that a little late.  :p03:17
mariano_well, is there I can make it so that windows is the default os03:17
jerpI'm gonna make that a project I guess03:17
yamathanAaaand now magically it's not working.  >: E03:17
Jucatojerp: did you set it to "Force" or just "Force Temporarily"? also, did you use Special Window Settings or Special Applications Settings?03:17
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mariano_and linux the second choice03:17
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jerpI used the like from the titlebar menu03:17
jerplink03:17
Jucatojerp: right-click on the title bar -> Advanced -> Special Window Settings03:18
jerpconfig window behavior03:18
Schuenemann!grub03:18
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto03:18
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Schuenemann!grub.conf03:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about grub.conf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:18
Jucatojerp: then? did you try the exact steps I told you?03:18
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jerpjucato, I don't want to do it in my Konversation full screen, gimme a sec03:19
Schuenemannmariano_: you have to edit the grub conf file, which I don't remember which it is03:19
Schuenemann:p03:19
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mariano_ok03:19
mariano_cool03:19
Jucato /boot/grub/menu.lst03:20
Schuenemannthere it is03:20
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Jucato!grub | mariano_03:20
ubotumariano_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto03:20
Jucatomariano_: that last link03:20
fnord__ /boot/grub03:20
fnord__i think03:21
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Schuenemann_mariano: you just have to edit the line that says 'default'03:22
fnord__i keep getting this error when im trying to run kiso,any help?03:25
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fnord__kiso: cannot connect to X server :0.0kiso: ERROR: Communication problem withkiso,probably crashed.03:25
fnord__sorrry for repeating my slef03:25
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mariano_how long do you guys think it will be for linux to be ready for straight out of the box use03:29
mariano_for average home computer users03:29
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Jucatomost Linux distro are already ready for straight ootb use03:29
mariano_really, hm, maybe i just have bad luck03:30
Jucatochanging boot configurations is not considered "straight ootb" use :)03:30
mariano_non of the distros i've tried have a working flash player03:30
Schuenemannyou can't say you have bad luck just because the default boot option disagrees you03:30
mariano_they have flash player but the sound is out03:30
mariano_most of them dont read my sound card03:31
Schuenemannflash is adobe's fault, not linux's03:31
Jucatowell, Ubuntu is special when it comes to proprietary codecs and formats03:31
mariano_exactly03:31
Jucatoother distros like MEPIS or KNOPPIX ship those by default03:31
Nontitlethe main reason people don't use linux is because they have never heard of it, and that really sucks03:31
mariano_when  will linux have no problem with such drivers03:31
SchuenemannNontitle: yep03:31
Nontitleif people learned how to use linux before they used windows, then the world would be a better place03:31
mariano_I tried mepis and it was slow03:31
Jucatomariano_: the day that those driver manufacturers decide to cooperate03:31
Schuenemannor where piracy is normal03:31
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mariano_I love the way linux feels and the philosophy behind it03:32
JucatoSchuenemann: completely agree with that :)03:32
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Schuenemannaround here, no one cares about piracy03:32
mariano_I just dont think that it is out of the box ready for home computer users that do not know much about computers03:32
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SchuenemannI have to agree it's not as easy as windows03:32
Jucatomariano_: the problem isn't on Linux's end... it's on the other side of the fence. Linux has the technology to implement those features if they weren't proprietary03:32
Schuenemannbut it's getting better there03:32
mariano_I understand that03:33
Jucatomariano_: also, don't equate one, two, or even a dozen distros with Linux. each distro does its own thing, specially regarding codecs, differently03:33
Nontitlewith the help of KDE and Gnome its almost becoming as easy to use as windows03:33
Schuenemannalthough kubuntu recognizes all my hardware, and windows XP requires the motherboard installation cd03:33
mariano_I guess my question is this, will those fences come down soon03:33
ForgeAushey all :)03:33
mariano_I'm just asking because I am deciding whether to buy vista or not03:34
Jucatowho knows... Sun has open sourced Java, Adobe is developing Flash 9 for Linux...03:34
JucatoIntel has open source video card drivers... who knows... who knows...03:34
notechmariano_: only you can decide that03:35
Schuenemannfirst linux I installed was red hat 7, was a pain03:35
ForgeAusI need another 2 gig on my hardfile :(03:35
ForgeAusmy Xubuntu grew lol03:35
ForgeAusI added too much 2 it03:35
jerpjucato, thanks for the directions... I used the 'special window settings' entry and "fixed" the Geometry- Position  Size and Placement for Kate and GwenView.  I did it twice to make sure it wasn't a fluke.  Is there a switch for setting app windows "Global"?03:35
mariano_well, I guess I will have to buy it and continue to experiment with linux on my old computer03:36
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Jucatojerp: not really sure.03:36
jerpbummer :p03:37
Jucatothere might be an option. just don't know...03:37
joshuajtlanyone happen to know if there is a kde theme/window decoration, that is at all simillar to the gnome carbonit theme...03:39
Jucatohttp://www.kde-look.org03:39
jerpwell thanks just the same, I think I've some patience enough to do it to all the windows I hope.03:40
Skeez187Alright guys, I've managed to get VMware Workstation up and running, how do I emulate my existing windows partition?03:40
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joshuajtlJucato: I am familiar... I was asking because if someone knew already then I wouldnt have to go through the whole site...03:40
joshuajtlhttp://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=4559003:40
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Jucatojerp: you could study the Window Specific Settings rules, I think it accepts wildcards such as *03:42
Schuenemann!dummy packagte03:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dummy packagte - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:43
Schuenemann!dummy package03:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dummy package - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:43
Schuenemannwhat is a dummy package?03:43
fnord__mariano_: have you tried ubuntu ubuntu  edubuntu?03:44
fnord__there slighty easyer03:44
mariano_well, I have tried ubuntu03:45
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fnord__anyone know a program to extract iso's?not onto a cd but just open the iso and edit it?03:45
mariano_and there was a problem with screen resolution03:45
mariano_so far, the best distros i've tried are kubuntu and suse03:45
Schuenemannmariano_: me too03:46
mariano_but suse 10.2 has a problem with being a bit slow03:46
mariano_even slower than xp03:46
Schuenemannyeah, slower and too many cd's03:46
fnord__whats xubuntu like?03:46
BrianSteffensdoes anyone know to specify username/password when mounting an smb folder with smbmount or mount -t smbfs ?03:46
mariano_and 10.2 wont recognize my card even after loading the mudfu firmware03:46
fnord__does it look/act more like ku or ubun?03:46
mariano_Kubuntu is the fastest and more stable one03:46
mariano_but still can't get flash player videos to play with sound03:47
mariano_I just get image03:47
mariano_and flash player videos are a huge part of my daily life. So, I need to be able to see them.03:47
Schuenemannhave you tried flash 9 beta?03:47
Skeez187I get my flash vids to work03:47
mariano_yea03:47
BrianSteffensxubuntu is closer to ubuntu (xface gui is closer to gnome than kde)03:47
Skeez187But after a while they go mute03:47
mariano_i've even tried installing them manually03:47
Schuenemannthey work here (flash 7)03:47
Skeez187I have to close and reopen firefox for them to work again03:47
BrianSteffensif i were you i'd only xubuntu for a server or an old machine that doesn't have much power. personally i hate xface03:47
Schuenemannbut sometimes they don't load at the first time03:47
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Schuenemannfirst try*03:48
mariano_I know  linux is a far better system than windows. I mean, no spyware.03:48
mariano_and most things are free to use03:48
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mariano_that is an egalitarian's dream come true. However, the no flash player keeps making me boot to  windows xp.03:48
joshuajtlhrmm I've just installed dekorator... but how do I actually use it?03:48
mariano_oh and onenote 2007 does too03:49
mariano_However, I was able to get kubuntu running on my tablet pc. It works amazingly fast!03:49
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Schuenemannit isn't that fast here03:52
Schuenemannbut my pc is old03:52
robotgeekSchuenemann: you can turn off fancy effects then03:52
Nontitlemariano_: Adobe just recently released flash player 9 for linux03:52
Schuenemannrobotgeek: like what?03:52
SchuenemannNontitle: final?03:52
robotgeekSchuenemann: the tooltips, etc etc03:52
Nontitlefinal03:52
mariano_i'v tried it and nothing03:52
mariano_let me try it  again03:53
Nontitlewell, im pretty sure final03:53
Schuenemannthat's great03:53
matthewNontitle, very cool...I"ve been using beta 2 forever...03:53
mariano_should I do it manually or through adept?03:53
Nontitlehehe03:53
mariano_con konsole?03:53
BrianSteffensok i mounted a remote smb folder with username and password. the folder i mounted to is owned by my account 'brian' but when i perform the mount it changes to being owned by root. sudo chown says it cannot change ownership of the folder. any ideas please/03:53
Nontitlemariano+: both should work fine03:53
mariano_ok03:54
Schuenemannthe download page points to version 703:55
mariano_I should not have to reboot right?03:55
mariano_yea, I did it through adept03:55
mariano_it has the 9.0.21 version03:55
robotgeekSchuenemann: you should probably get it from seveas's repo03:56
Schuenemann9.0.21.78.2ubuntu1~dapper1 003:56
mariano_yea03:56
mariano_i'm downloading that one03:56
Jucato!flash903:56
ubotuflash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports03:56
Schuenemannit says I have this installed, but it uses 703:56
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SchuenemannI mean firefox uses 703:56
mariano_I got it, but no sound03:56
mariano_only video plays03:56
Jucatohm.... strange...03:57
Jucato(never had that problem in Konqueror...)03:57
SchuenemannI'll try konqueror03:57
mariano_nothing03:57
JucatoSchuenemann: what does about:plugins in Firefox say?03:58
SchuenemannShockwave Flash 7.0 r6803:58
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Schuenemannkonqueror is not opening any pages03:58
Schuenemannit prompts to save the page or open with firefox03:59
Jucato:O03:59
JucatoSchuenemann: how did you check that you have Flash 9 installed, btw?03:59
Schuenemannwith apt-get03:59
mariano_I have flash player 9.2 d7803:59
mariano_but no sound comes out03:59
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SchuenemannInstalado: 9.0.21.78.2ubuntu1~dapper103:59
Jucatohm.... :(04:00
JucatoSchuenemann: apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree?04:00
Schuenemannyeah04:00
Schuenemannwhy the hell is konqueror acting like that?04:01
mariano_    File name: libflashplayer.so04:01
mariano_    Shockwave Flash 9.0 d7804:01
fnord__closeing out all the time or freezeing up?04:01
mariano_thats what I got04:01
fnord__mine does it alot i have to restart04:01
Schuenemannneither, doesn't open a page04:01
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mariano_I get no sound just video.04:01
Schuenemannasks for save the page or open with firefox04:01
fnord__is xubutu buggyer then kubuntu?04:01
fnord__i dont know04:01
JucatoSchuenemann: did you just install flash right now?04:02
fnord__my konq is crazy04:02
mariano_fnord04:02
Jucatofnord__: not really04:02
mariano_kubuntu is supper fast04:02
Schuenemannactually it open pages, except for pages that have flash04:02
matthewmariano_, Flash 9 is not final yet04:02
mariano_specially once you get it running cool04:02
SchuenemannJucato: with apt?04:02
Jucatomatthew: but usable, from my end04:02
mariano_it is very fast on my tablet pc04:02
JucatoSchuenemann: yes. I mean, when did you install flash/flash 9?04:02
Jucatooooh tablet PC?!?!?04:02
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Schuenemannsome days ago04:02
matthewJucato, on mine as well.04:02
mariano_yea04:02
mariano_i got it used on ebay04:03
mariano_it is great for school04:03
fnord__i thougt xubuntu was faster?04:03
JucatoSchuenemann: never worked for you once?04:03
mariano_can't live without it04:03
SchuenemannI'm using dapper, fyi04:03
Jucatofnord__: yep, it's faster04:03
Schuenemann9 never04:03
JucatoSchuenemann: ah.. hm....04:03
mariano_well, kubuntu works faster for me.04:03
Jucatomariano_: faster than Xubuntu?04:03
mariano_and it felt like it was far more complete04:03
mariano_yea04:03
Jucatothat's just... a bit... improbable...04:03
mariano_faster than xubuntu04:03
Jucatoit's more complete, yes. but faster?04:03
mariano_yea04:03
Jucato:O04:03
mariano_it was really fast04:03
mariano_I mean set up and all04:03
Schuenemannhow can I install edgy without losing everything I did?04:04
mariano_speed of processing stuff was equal once I added things to xubuntu04:04
fnord__does xubuntu have alot of eyecandy?04:04
mariano_nope04:04
fnord__because im only running 256mg and 1.7gigs04:04
mariano_my kubuntu even runs beryl on  my tablet. intel 865 chip04:04
JucatoSchuenemann: unless you have a very strong reason to upgrade to Edgy... I'd recommend sticking to Dapper if you're happy with it04:05
Schuenemannhow can I be happy with it if everything requires edgy heh :p04:05
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Schuenemannfor apt-get I mean04:05
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Jucatowhat requires Edgy?04:06
Schuenemannfirefox 204:06
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JucatoAdmiral_Chicago!!!!!04:06
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Admiral_ChicagoSchuenemann: you can update the version04:06
Admiral_Chicago!firefox | Schuenemann04:06
ubotuSchuenemann: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins04:06
campbchis there a way to check to see if i have gltk.h?04:06
SchuenemannI did, but it was not easy04:07
campbchor if it would be #incude able?04:07
JucatoSchuenemann: well, I don't know why they haven't backported Firefox 2.0 to Dapper....04:07
Schuenemannand I won't auto-update, I believe04:07
Jucatoit never auto-updates04:07
SchuenemannJucato: it seems that they forget about previous versions04:07
mariano_so, is this flash player issue common?04:07
Admiral_Chicagoyea thats the one major thing of 1.504:07
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campbch!opengl04:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:07
Schuenemannit won't update if you install with apt-get? :-O04:07
campbch!gl04:07
mariano_Is it  a bug open for  research04:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:07
Jucatoof course not. Dapper is LTS, they cannot forget about that. must be a technical issue04:07
JucatoSchuenemann: nope. it shouldn't... it's a security/stability risk if you just update directly from Firefox...04:08
campbch:(04:08
BombTronhello, my hard drive keeps filling up with I don't know what. Any good utilities to clean up my disk?04:08
Schuenemannreally? windows does that04:08
ForgeAuscan konversation open more than one server?04:08
Schuenemannyes04:08
Admiral_ChicagoForgeAus: of course04:08
ForgeAusso if I type /server xxx it will open a second one? or disconnect this one?04:09
Admiral_Chicagoapt-get isn't the fx auto updater though04:09
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mariano_does anyone in here have a working flash player04:09
ErtainHello everyone.04:09
mariano_with video and audio04:09
Admiral_Chicagodc, you need to try /connect iirc04:09
SchuenemannAdmiral_Chicago: but won't it warn there is a new version when you open fx?04:09
Admiral_Chicagomariano_:04:09
mariano_or do you guys use a different codec or program to view  flash04:09
Admiral_Chicagoi do04:09
mister_robotoThere is no way to detach a Konversation tab to a separate window, is there?04:09
SchuenemannForgeAus: click file > server list > new server04:10
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JucatoSchuenemann: windows doesn't have apt-get (or a stable package management system) does it?04:10
mariano_windows04:10
mariano_lol04:10
mariano_windows has wizard04:10
Admiral_Chicagoi'm not sure, I'd suggest you just follow my link..04:10
Schuenemannno, I mean firefox in windows has an auto-update04:10
ErtainI don't know if I have fully upgraded to 6.10.  First I installed Drake months ago.  Now I'm trying to upgrade to Edgy.  My sources haven't changed since the initial install.04:10
mariano_I hate to say it, but it has never given me a problem04:10
mariano_yea04:10
Admiral_ChicagoErtain: you arent04:10
JucatoSchuenemann: it's because windows has no way to ensure system stability with every install/upgrade the apps on it do.04:11
mariano_yes,  firefox does have an auto update in windows04:11
Admiral_Chicagomariano_: it gave me problems04:11
BombTronhow do you get a list of just installed programs in adept04:11
Admiral_Chicagoit was not free04:11
fnord__!grue04:11
ubotuThe grue is a sinister, lurking presence in the dark places of the earth. Its favorite diet is adventurers, but its insatiable appetite is tempered by its fear of light. No grue has ever been seen by the light of day, and few have survived its fearsome jaws to tell the tale. Also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grue_(monster)04:11
mariano_really, the only problem that I have had with windows is spyware04:11
mariano_and ads04:11
mariano_that is all04:11
JucatoSchuenemann: the reason why it's not recommended to simply auto-update firefox (which you can still do, I think) is because an update might cause some stability problems04:11
Schuenemannso help > check updates is grayed for everyone using linux?04:11
mariano_oh, and my bank ends up at - whenever I want a new application04:11
SchuenemannJucato: by auto-update I mean to warn you when new updates are available04:12
BombTronhmm not so helpful today are we04:12
JucatoSchuenemann: also, remember that in Linux, apps are mostly installed by root. so updating would require you to be root.04:12
mariano_money is the biggest reason for my searching for a windows alternative04:12
JucatoSchuenemann: yes04:12
JucatoBombTron: just uncheck some of the filters in Adept, and leave the "installed" filter enabled04:12
fnord__whats a grue?04:12
Schuenemannwell that's horrible04:12
fnord__is it like grub?04:13
Schuenemannit's something creepy04:13
mariano_so any  alternatives to this flash player deal04:13
fnord__yup seems like it04:13
Schuenemannaccording to the bot, at least04:13
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BombTronJucato: thank you can i then sort by size04:13
Jucatohm.. not really sure...04:14
BombTronJucato: I want to get some junk out04:14
mister_robotofnord__: guess not too many young folks here played the original text game Adventure :)04:14
fnord__ah04:14
ForgeAusis there a way to on-the-fly reset the main taskbar/panel?04:14
SchuenemannJucato: anyway, everytime I ask for something people assume I'm using edgy04:14
mariano_linux is perfect for my dissertation04:14
JucatoSchuenemann: heh get used to it :)04:14
fnord__oh yea i rember that know,i think it played it on unix like forever ago04:14
JucatoSchuenemann: but doesn't mean you *should* be using Edgy if you don't want/need to04:14
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mister_robotofnord__: exactly :)04:14
fnord__not very much but a few times04:15
ForgeAusno matter I gotta quit soon anyway04:15
ForgeAussee if I can add some gb to this hdd04:15
mister_robotofnord__:  you can still find it online in various languages04:15
fnord__yup04:15
SchuenemannI guess I'll use edgy04:15
fnord__whats kickoff like04:15
Jucato!upgrade | Schuenemann04:15
ubotuSchuenemann: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)04:15
Schuenemannand get rid of the suse as well04:15
mariano_suse is slow04:15
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mariano_booting to suse takes years04:16
Schuenemannon a 1.5 GHz 384 RAM it takes decades04:16
max_is there anything like Mac application dock (at the bottom of the screen) in Kubuntu04:16
fnord__whats elkbuntu?04:16
fnord__!elkbuntu04:16
ubotuelkbuntu is cute04:16
fnord__lol04:16
max_haha04:16
mariano_i tried that mint04:16
mariano_it was cool04:17
mariano_but same issue with flash04:17
mariano_lol04:17
max_my dad runs Mint04:17
Admiral_Chicagofnord__: that is a Me;issa04:17
Admiral_Chicagomelissa*, she is a developer04:17
fnord__think ubotu has a crush04:17
fnord__ahh04:17
fnord__thanks04:17
Jucatofnord__: elkbuntu is the irc nick of Melissa Draper04:17
mariano_i'm so desperate that I might try to copy the flash player codec in my laptop and put it in my pc04:17
mariano_maybe that will work04:17
mariano_lol04:17
fnord__yup04:17
SchuenemannJucato: so I won't download the ISO, burn on a CD and etc, etc ?04:18
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JucatoSchuenemann: no need to if you have the bandwidth04:18
Jucatohm... I wonder...04:19
Jucato!marilize04:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about marilize - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:19
Jucatoheh :P04:19
Schuenemannsomething tells me it's safer04:19
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jojay33!opt04:19
ubotuopt: Options Parsing Tool library. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.19-1 (edgy), package size 73 kB, installed size 260 kB04:19
jojay33woops04:19
Schuenemannto remove everything04:19
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JucatoSchuenemann: fresh install? yep. safer and less problematic04:19
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JucatoSchuenemann: if you have your /home on another partition, that's better04:19
max_is there anything like Mac application dock (at the bottom of the screen) in Kubuntu04:19
SchuenemannI haven't installed too much stuff04:19
mariano_max, all the docks i've tried are buggy04:20
mariano_or so I think so04:20
Schuenemann!karamba04:20
ubotusuperkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org04:20
Jucato!kxdocker | max_04:20
ubotukxdocker: innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.4a-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 327 kB, installed size 1064 kB04:20
troyhey, is OOo 2.1 available for edgy?04:20
mariano_maybe if you are more experienced, you wont have any trouble04:20
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Jucatomariano_: they're not that buggy04:20
BombTronSo no one knows a good way to clean up a disk, I got a 35 gig drive as boot with nothing else but Kubuntu on it and it is nearly full04:20
BombTronwhat is going on04:20
SchuenemannKaramba is a dock, right?04:20
mariano_well, something must be wrong with my installation then04:20
mariano_or the three installations of kubuntu that i've done04:21
troyBombTron: check the size of something like the /tmp and /var directories... something could be running away there04:21
BombTrontroy: I'll check it04:21
BombTrontroy: var is a gig04:22
mariano_max, let me know what you think about kxdocker04:22
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BombTrontroy: tmp is negligable04:22
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troyhrmm - var is probably storing a complete backlog of all updated packages retrieved via apt-get upgrade (or adept)04:22
Schuenemann!eye candy04:22
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy04:22
Schuenemann!troll04:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about troll - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:23
BombTrontroy: is that bad?04:23
max_!mint04:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mint - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:23
BluesKaj!OO04:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about OO - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:23
Admiral_Chicago!botabuse04:23
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...04:23
BluesKaj!Open Office04:23
troyBombTron: no, it's normal - but you can delete the contents of /var/cache/apt/archives if that helps :)04:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Open Office - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:23
max_!OpenOffice04:23
ubotua free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org04:23
BombTrontroy: any other ideas of where to look04:23
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BombTrontroy: usr is 2 gigs and counting04:24
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BluesKajdumb bots , can't read past space :)04:24
troyBombTron: usr is installed programs and related files... you could take a closer look to see what you could uninstall (via adept_manager or somesuch)04:25
troyBombTron: I'll bet /home is the biggest, no?04:25
fnord__!love04:25
ubotuLove is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.04:25
robotgeeklol04:25
Admiral_Chicagookay, please use the /msg !04:26
fnord__sorry04:26
fnord__just larning all the fun things ubotu can do04:26
fnord__so i would type /msg !something?04:27
fnord__or /msg fnord5 !something?04:27
troyfnord__: /msg ubotu something04:27
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Jucato!ubotu | fnord__04:28
ubotufnord__: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots04:28
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max_would you recommend Kiba-Dock or KxDocker04:35
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fnord__never tried ether04:37
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velleis there a way to turn arround the screen 90 degrees, i want to put my monitor on the side, and then still have the text in horisontal04:44
velleie i want to change something in kubuntu or kde software04:45
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BombTronwhere does the trash exsist in the file hirarchy?04:47
Jucato~/.local/share/Trash ?04:47
BombTronJucato: where is that04:48
BombTronJucato: inside home?04:48
HawkwindYes04:49
Jucatoyes. ~ = /home/user04:49
Hawkwind~/ = users home directory04:49
velleBombTron ~ always means home04:49
BombTronvelle: oh thank you04:50
BombTronvelle: wasn't sure04:50
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max_would you recommend Kiba-Dock or KxDocker04:52
velleBombTron: so can you find your trash?  :)04:53
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BrianSteffensok i have my smb shared folder mounted and everything. but now there is an icon on the desktop for it. how can i make it not show up there?05:06
Dr_willis'configure desktop -> behiavor"05:07
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BrianSteffensty05:08
tdrIs there a place to send postive feedback to kubuntu?05:08
Dr_willisthe homepage?05:09
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tdrthere's not a real clear link tho. closest i found was one for Canonical Ltd05:09
Skeez187Is it possible to remote desktop from Kubuntu to XP?05:10
tdrkrdc  = kde remote desktop client05:11
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Skeez187Sweeeeet05:11
Skeez187Thank you kind sir05:11
Dr_willisor check out vnc05:12
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Dr_willisnot sure if theres a freenx client for winmdows yet.05:12
seven11_kubuntu is nice with automount external devices, but as soon as i umount lets say an usb stick i cant mount it anymore not with mount /media/UDISK 2.0 and also not with mount /dev/sda1  i get the error not found in fstab05:17
seven11_so all i can do is unplug the stick and put it in again?05:18
seven11_someone a idea how to mount again?05:19
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max_!deb05:24
ubotudeb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)05:24
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snook353what does it want?  "if you have a router/firewall, please check that you have port 16179 UDP open.  Decentralised tracking requires this."05:29
snook353http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_Datagram_Protocol05:30
snook353(using kaffeine)05:31
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charleshi05:33
charlesjust trying out konversation05:33
charlesthought i'd say hullo05:33
MuJhullo05:34
snook353*man udp*05:34
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charlesi will say that ubunty edgy is really the first linux distro i really dig05:34
oemyeah05:34
charlesif any ubuntu volunteers are here05:34
oemit kicks major ass05:34
charlesand it *hasn't* broken on me yet05:35
oemget kubuntu though05:35
charlesi installed kubuntu-desktop05:35
charlesso i have it05:35
oemKDE is much better than gnome any way you slice it in my opinion05:35
oemkool05:35
snook353brb05:35
charlesi'm impressed by both05:35
charlesbut i always have problems with running gtk/gnome programs under kde05:35
MuJwhat problems?05:36
snook353b05:36
charlesfor some reason, if I ever clicked on the GTK+ styles tab in kcontrol, it seemed to add something to my startup session05:36
charlesso that whenever i started up a gtk application, it would revert to the default gtk style05:37
MuJoh..05:37
oemfinally got a good linux admin book today, i cant wait to get out of my windows career and into a linux career, gonna get my linux+, then LPI 1 and 205:37
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charlesregardless of the theme i chose in kcontrol05:37
charlesEVEN when i logged into gnome05:37
charlesgnome-theme-manager was powerless to change a thing05:37
charlesand if i chose certain themes from kcontrol, any gtk app i loaded would segfault on launch05:38
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charlesanyone using beryl, et al?05:38
max_i am05:39
charlestell me something05:39
joshualfinally got my nick back... someone had been using my registered nick for a week!05:39
charlesi assume it's impossible to use w/ just fb support, but i'd like to hear to the contrary05:39
oemgod i hate windows vista lol05:39
oemthanx for all your help guys05:39
max_charles: fb?05:39
charlesframebuffer05:39
oemgetting all this shit to work anyways05:39
oemi really appreciate it05:39
max_whats that? haha05:40
oemlinux05:40
oemlol05:40
seven11_oem: what book05:40
charleslike can you have an unaccellerated beryl-composited desktop05:40
charlesor do you need videocard support05:40
max_what videocard do you have05:40
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charlesit's in parallels05:41
charlesvirtual machine software05:41
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seven11_anyone have links to good linux help pdf's05:42
max_beryll will prettymuch work with anything05:42
oemi had to use 4 gigs of ram to run vista good05:43
oemand now since i puton kubuntu my computer halls ass LOL05:43
BrianSteffens4 gigs of ram to run vista right?05:43
oem2 gigs minimum05:44
kkathman4gb??  man what system did you have!! I ran mine on a single gb :)05:44
oembut 4 if you want it to hall as bro05:44
max_1gb min05:44
kkathmangeez it ran fine with my 1gb05:44
oemdepends on which version05:44
BrianSteffensand on the settings05:44
oemi ran the ultimate edition05:44
max_i thought consumer vista wasnt out yet?05:44
oemwhich BTW i have a MSDN subscription so anyone who wants a VALID key for vista let me know05:44
kkathmanyou can download pre-release versions readily05:45
oemyeah, bit torrent rules05:45
oemlol05:45
max_windows sucks05:45
kkathmanIm not spending any upgrade charges ATM for Vista when it comes out,05:45
max_oem: if you have 4gb are you doing any beryl?05:45
kkathmanwindows doesnt suck..its just an alternative OS05:45
kkathmaneverything sucks to a degree :)05:46
oemi like XP05:46
kkathmanhaha05:46
oemsort of05:46
oemlol05:46
oembut i dont like the idea of windows05:46
max_kkathman: no, windoes just plane sucks05:46
kkathmannah it doesnt suck any more or less than other OS's :)05:46
oemi met bill gates, only once, and only for 5 minutes, he came to dell once, and he is a genius but an ASSHOLE05:46
max_yes it does05:46
kkathmanthere IS no perfect OS05:46
max_never said there was05:47
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max_but when an OSW keeps everything secret thats stupid05:47
oemi agree max05:47
max_i installed XP and it had installed 2gb it wouldnot tell me where it was or what was on it05:47
max_it was just like it dissappeared05:47
kkathmani was in a room once with both Dell and Gates  was pretty interesting..but both were nice enough to me at least :)05:47
max_and 2gb on a 5gb drive, thats ALOT05:47
oemlol05:48
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oemyou mean ram or hd space max?05:48
max_HD space05:48
BrianSteffenswinxp is great for a lot of things05:48
BrianSteffenscasual users shouldn't bother with something like linux05:48
BrianSteffensfor them windows is good05:48
oemlinux sucks as a desktop OS for normal users05:49
max_dont say that05:49
oembut for nerds it rules lol05:49
oemand for servers its AWESOME05:49
BrianSteffenshaha yea oem05:49
max_linux need to be for everyone05:49
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oemit will be eventually05:49
oemit is better and better05:49
oemand better05:49
oemlol05:49
max_linux is going on all the OLPCs05:49
aseigooem: depends which 'normal user' you refer to05:49
oemjust takes time05:49
oema non power user05:49
aseigolots of them use kde/linux05:49
aseigomost of them, however, do so in a managed environment such as an office or school05:50
oemyeah05:50
oemthey need to watch revolution OS lol05:51
aseigohome users, on the other hand, we're really doing poorly for them due mostly to lack of linux hardware offerings (pc's and notebooks) and application coverage (particularly games)05:51
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MuJI just don't get how the kids learned to use dos years ago if they can't learn to use linux these days =/05:51
oemwhich BTW, if any of you havent seen it, download it off of mininova and convert it, it is worth it trust me05:51
BrianSteffensyou can pretty much get almost anything to work on linux05:51
oemyeah lol05:51
BrianSteffensit's just a matter of how much time you want to spend working with it05:51
oemi agree muj05:51
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BrianSteffenslol05:51
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kkathmanyou use what you are taught or what is necessary to do whatever you do05:52
BrianSteffensmostly the reason i'm loving linux so far is i missed being able to do everything in the console05:52
deushey, does anyone here know k3b?05:52
max_i do05:52
oemi do05:52
oemit RULES05:52
deusI told it to verify writen data05:52
deusit seems to have stalled05:52
oemit sure kicks the shit out of nero05:52
BrianSteffensall i know is it's the best software of that type i've ever used O_O05:52
deusits doing a whole lot of nothing05:52
oemthe only way i can watch dvds on linux is to use WINE and powerDVD lol05:52
BrianSteffensreally oem? x64?05:53
deusit says it "closing session"05:53
deusbut its not doing anything05:53
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max_oem: you tried oKIe?05:54
deusIt looks like the main writing part has finished, do you think its safe to remove the cd?05:54
deusim trying to burn an iso05:54
BrianSteffensi couldn't get dvds to play on kubuntu 64 but now i'm using 32 and it was pretty easy05:54
oemyup05:54
oemyeah05:54
oem6405:54
BrianSteffensah ><05:54
oemlinux was 64 way b4 windows05:55
oemi used to use fedora, but when kubuntu came out i threw that crap away lol05:55
oemwell, fedora is not bad05:55
oemits just not kubuntu05:55
deuswhats the deal was 64?  I want to build a 64 bit computer05:55
oemget a 64 bit processor05:55
oemand motherboard05:56
oemand then you are good to go05:56
MuJit supports more than 4GB ram05:56
oemDO NOT get an itanium05:56
oemlinux doesnt work in a true 64 bit env. yet05:56
BrianSteffensamd64 ftw05:56
BrianSteffenslol05:56
deusI havent heard of anyone using intel6405:56
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oemi use it05:57
oemit rules05:57
oemlol05:57
deusyou think intel64 is better than amd64?05:58
oemgod i wish i could log into root in kubuntu05:58
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oemthats what i miss in fedora05:58
oemman i cant wait to get started reading this huge linux book lol05:58
oemi cant wait to learn and learn and learn about this VAST OS05:58
kkathmanoem why do you need to log to root?05:58
oemadmin05:59
oemcommand line05:59
oemshell05:59
oemetc.05:59
kkathmanyou can always use sudo for most things, and if you absolutely need to go to root you can05:59
BrianSteffenssudo?05:59
oemi am just starting to learn it05:59
BrianSteffenslol05:59
oemyeah05:59
oemsuper user do05:59
deusgo to the console05:59
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deustype su05:59
deustype you admin password05:59
oemok05:59
deusand your good to go05:59
HawkwindYou can setup a traditional root account in split seconds05:59
oemso type su05:59
oemand hit enter?05:59
kkathmanexactly05:59
oemthen my admin password05:59
stdinsudo not su06:00
oem?06:00
kkathmansu also06:00
deussudo to do it in one line06:00
max_can someone recomment a OSX type application docker06:00
stdinsudo su will work06:00
HawkwindOr sudo -i06:00
deussu to do it in multiple lines06:00
stdinor sudo -i06:00
stdinor sudo -s06:00
deussudo su?06:00
oemi do that but everytime i put in my password it says FUCK YOU lol06:00
kkathmanoem:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-7118.html06:00
Hawkwindoem: Please watch the language06:00
kkathmanplease watch the language06:00
oemok sorry06:01
oemwill do06:01
Hawkwind!root | oem06:01
oemit says authentication failure every time :(06:01
ubotuoem: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.06:01
kkathmanbtw evening Hawkwind :)06:01
kkathmanwell at least here it is :)06:01
deusshouldnt sudo su ask you for your password twice and then put you in super user mode?06:01
stdinoem, you made sure to type your user pass, not a root pass ?06:01
deuswhy does it just do nothing on my computer?06:01
oemi type the password i set in the install06:02
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seven11_Hawkwind: how do i set up a traditional root account (nice name by the way)06:02
max_can someone recomment a OSX type application docker06:02
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flaccid!kxdocker06:03
ubotukxdocker: innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.4a-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 327 kB, installed size 1064 kB06:04
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kkathmanmax_ try kxdocker06:04
kkathmanoops06:04
kkathmanhehe06:04
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max_kkathman: i installed it and it never worked06:05
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Hawkwind!root | seven11_06:07
ubotuseven11_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.06:07
Hawkwindseven11_: IIRC it tells you on that page06:07
Hawkwindseven11_: Or, sudo passwd or sudo passwd su  will do it too06:07
seven11_thanks hawkwind06:07
HawkwindNo problem06:08
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circ_anyone know alot about setting up the ati drivers?06:09
oemubotu THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!06:10
oemhahaha06:10
oemand its a bot06:10
oemsomeone please beat me up06:10
oemill even pay you06:10
oemlol06:10
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oemill talk to u gentlemen tomorrow06:12
oemthanx again!06:12
kkathmannight oem06:13
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Hawkwind!ati | circ_06:15
ubotucirc_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:15
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circ_ya ive done all of those guides06:18
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circ_was wondering if anyone could decode the error messages06:19
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kakaltois there an upgrade path to go from 6.06-x86 to 6.10-amd6406:28
kakalto?06:28
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fnord5oem: did you install under oem mode or did yu just get a new box with kubuntu installed?06:28
oemoem mode06:29
kakaltodoes anyone know about upgrading from x86 to amd64 versions?\06:29
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matthewkakalto, I don't know that it can be done06:29
oemyeah06:29
oemyou have to reformat bro06:30
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oemkakalto u have to download the 64 bit, and just format/install, boot off the CD and go from there06:30
kakaltois it possible to mount a cd image on one machine, then boot off that image on a different machine on the network?06:32
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Dr_williskakalto,  i saw some docs on making a PXE (net boot) machine that lets other machines netboot/install from it. just now. :)06:32
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kakaltoDr_willis: link please? (I thought it was just an insane idea)06:33
max_can someone please tell me where window transparency is in Beryl?06:33
Dr_willishttp://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_pxe_install_server06:33
Dr_willisBUt you need a machine running ubuntu - that you set up to allow the other machines to boot from/install from.06:33
Dr_willisNow what would be cool.. would be a live cd that could install, and allow netboot-installs also.06:34
kakaltois it not possible from another distro?06:34
kakaltoeg, gentoo?06:34
Dr_williskakalto,  proberly is.06:35
Dr_willisshould be at least.. Linux is Linux. :)06:35
kakalto=)06:35
Dr_willisinstall the right pxe/tftp stuff and away ya go.06:35
andy__anyone had problems connecting to yahoo email with firefox browser?06:35
Dr_willisthat SaxenOS live cd. could netboot othe rmachines :) you could have 4+ machines all using the same live cd.06:36
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Conorhello06:38
Conorthis is deus06:38
ConorIm having trouble getting a liveCD to run on my computer06:39
Dr_williskakalto,  that URL i just noticed has a link to a VMWARE image for the install 'system' - ya could take any os and use vmware, and have it going in a few min.06:39
unix_infidelanyone here got a metasploit lab here running on a deb based system?06:40
Dr_williskakalto,  but they want $$ to become a subscriber to get that image.. bummer.06:40
unix_infidelor any sort of that test lab?06:40
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Dr_williswell bbl.06:42
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olodumareHello all!06:43
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olodumareLooking for a little assistance, have I come to the right place?06:43
kkerwinolodumare: What's up?06:44
ConorI get the boot from the kubuntu liveCD (edgy 6.10) and choose to boot kubuntu, but halfway through the boot, it hangs06:44
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ConorThe cd works on other computers, and other versions of linux run fine on this computer06:44
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olodumarekkerwin: Trying to connect a palm pilot, but it doesn't have the decency to show up in dev06:45
geniimatthew Heyas :)06:45
kkerwinolodumare: Hmm. Sounds like a driver issue. One sec.06:45
matthewgenii, what's up?06:45
olodumarekerwin: tyty06:45
matthewgenii, deus was looking for ya...06:46
matthewgenii, he's not here now, of course06:46
Conorhey genii06:46
ConorIm deus06:46
Conorsorry06:46
geniiConor Hello06:46
matthewlol06:46
Conorso, no progress06:46
genii:(06:46
ConorI burned the DVD, and tried to boot it06:46
Conorbut my computer just made some griding sounds and delivered me to my regular boot loader06:47
ConorIs there a trick to loading liveDVDs?06:47
geniiNah, should be just like a regular CD06:47
_kuja_Indeed06:47
kkerwinolodumare: Do you know how to use a terminal?06:48
olodumarekkerwin:  yessir06:48
Conorgroan06:48
kkerwinolodumare: "sudo lsmod | grep visor"06:48
Conorokay, i just ran a memtest06:48
kkerwinolodumare: "sudo lsmod | grep usb-uhci"06:48
seven11how do i install a manualy downloaded package (.gz) which didn't get through apt-get update06:48
geniiConor Do you have any kind of budget for this?06:48
Conorthe screens a little cryptic06:48
kkerwinolodumare: "sudo lsmod | grep usb-ohci"06:48
Conorgenii, idealy06:48
Zamberomg xD http://www.hackles.org/cgi-bin/archives.pl?request=9406:48
Conorgenii: $006:49
kkerwinolodumare: Tell me which, if any, are loaded.06:49
Conorgenii: what do you want me to pay?06:49
olodumarekkerwin: I got no feedback from the terminal whatsoever06:49
olodumarekkerwin: aside from asking for a pw06:49
kkerwinolodumare: Okie dokie. Run "sudo modprobe visor"06:50
matthewConor, I would buy an nvidia card on ebay06:50
geniiconor LOL ...OK.. I was thinking if you had about $10 you could get a laptop HD adapter which would let you plug it into the desktop. Then you can just dump all the install stuff to it, etc06:50
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kkerwinolodumare: Then run those above commands again.06:50
matthewgenii, still don't think it's the vid card?06:50
Conorgenii: could you explain that?06:50
Conormatthew: Its a laptop. I cant just swap out the video card06:50
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matthewConor, gosh darnit, I keep forgetting06:51
geniimatthew Nah, I'm pretty convinced it's the CD drive. Theres a small chance it's not but we know it fails the cd check on the laptop but not the desktop06:51
olodumarekkerwin: Ok, the first one gave a result,06:51
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Conorwait, genii, I got it to pass the cd test06:51
kkerwinolodumare: And the others?06:51
geniiconor On the laptop?06:51
kkerwinolodumare: If not, modprobe those as well.06:51
Conoryeah06:51
olodumarekkerwin: nothing on the others06:51
olodumarekk06:51
geniiconor OK.. so then it starts to boot but then hangs now?06:52
Conoryeah06:52
geniiconor Did you try the safe mode06:52
Conoryeah06:52
olodumarekkerwin: on the first one: "FATAL: Module usb_uhci not found."06:52
geniiconor How much ram?06:53
olodumarekkerwin: same on ochi06:53
kkerwinolodumare: Hmm. Ok. Maybe it was built directly into the kernel. Replug your palm, and then check in /dev again.06:53
Conor2 GB, but it seems like only 1 gig actually gets used06:53
kkerwinolodumare: You're looking for /dev/ttyUSB1.06:53
Conorgenii: anyway, someone told me to try the "noacpi" option, but that didnt help06:53
geniianything over 192 should work fine.06:53
geniiconor Yeah thats sometimes for problemmatic laptops like Dell etc06:54
Conoralright, here it goes06:54
olodumarekkerwin:  Yeah, plenty of tty, but nothing with USB after it06:54
ConorI ran it in safe graphics mode, and I get this little bouncing progress bar, genii06:54
geniiThere are other boot options which may be useful but I'd have to look them up06:54
Conorbut then it just jams06:55
kkerwinolodumare: Okie dokie. Check the last few lines of dmesg for your palm.06:55
Conorgenii: where do you look them up?06:55
geniiconor Can you get to the terminal?06:55
kkerwinolodumare: See if it provides any clues as to where it is. Different distros put it in different spots.06:55
geniieg: ctrl-f1 or f2 f3 f4 etc etc06:55
kkerwinolodumare: The last time I used a palm with linux, it was when I was using Gentoo.06:55
olodumarekkerwin: drivers/usb/serial/visor.c:06:56
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geniiconor Some of the boot options are on the cd when you hit f1 f2 etc before it starts loading. they have some options described for different layout of hardware etc06:56
Conorgenii: I cant seem to do it06:56
kkerwinolodumare: You know what. I still have my old palm. Let me grab it and try this myself. I should be able to do a better job if I don't have to guess. :-)06:56
Conoryeah06:56
Conorgenii: I have: F1 help06:56
ConorF2 Language06:57
olodumarekkerwin:  Thanks so much!06:57
ConorF3 Keymap (Dvorak!)06:57
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ConorF4: VGA06:57
geniiconor Yeh, there should also be (if I remember) f5 f6 etc for some special boot options etc06:57
ConorF5 Accessibility06:57
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ConorF6, boot options06:57
geniif606:57
kkerwinolodumare: Rats. The battery is out.06:57
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olodumarekkerwin: Ha!06:58
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kkerwinolodumare: Let's give it a couple of minutes to charge, and then we'll try it again.06:58
geniithe noacpi for instance is listed. You could try the rescue kernel06:58
kkerwinolodumare: In the meantime, let's see what we can find on the wiki ...06:58
Conorgenii: okay, it gives me a long string06:58
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olodumarekkerwin: sounds good!06:58
geniiconor gimme a minute to research and i'll be back :)06:58
olodumarekkerwin:  It is a palm zire 31, which has all sorts of issues, as I understand it, but most of them occur after this point06:59
kkerwinOkie dokie.06:59
Conorgenii: actually, it gives me a line of text that I can edit06:59
ConorI assume that I can pass it different options06:59
geniiconor yes06:59
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kkerwinOooh. Look at that. Right on the money: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PalmZire31HowTo06:59
kkerwinolodumare: Poke. Above. Sorry to not have included your name.07:00
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olodumarekkerwin: sok07:00
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kkerwinolodumare: Ooops. On second though, it doesn't appear to be what we're looking for.07:00
Conorgenii: the help menu says to run noapic nol apic07:01
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geniiconor try as options: nomce noapic pci=biosirq07:01
kkerwinolodumare: Try: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PalmDeviceSetup07:01
kkerwinolodumare: Oh duh.07:02
kkerwinolodumare: Now I remember.07:02
kkerwinolodumare: It only appears in /dev when you press the hotsync button.07:02
Conorgenii: okay, its going07:02
olodumarekkerwin: I did try that07:02
geniiconor let me know if it goes further than before, or same/less/different etc07:02
kkerwinolodumare: Was that before or after modprobing the modules?07:02
olodumarekkerwin: after07:03
Conorgenii: well, the progress bar stalled again07:03
kkerwinCrap.07:03
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geniiconor Well give it a few minutes. I've seen it take sometimes 3-4 minutes07:03
Conorgenii: btw, when this happens, I have to unplug the computer and remove the battery to get it to shut down07:04
kkerwinolodumare: Exploring. One sec ...07:04
olodumarekkerwin: Thanks again!07:04
geniiconor ouch :)07:04
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kkerwinolodumare: Continue looking on help.ubuntu.com07:04
Conoris there a way around that?  some sort of alt-ctrl-del?07:04
billybonganybody here use the "S3 Savage 2k" or "S3 UniChrome 2D/3D" video card in X ?07:04
geniiI'll be back in a couple mins... need coffee etc07:05
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matthewhey genii-around how long did you sleep?07:07
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joshualanyone happen to get google earth to run??07:07
genii-aroundmatthew 14 hours :)07:08
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Conorgenii-around?07:08
geniiconor researching some obscure boot options to pass the kernel07:08
Conorare you the same person as genni?07:08
Conorthanks genii07:09
geniiconor LOL Yeah when I go do something etc I change my nick07:09
Conorit hasnt done anything yet, and it sounds like its reading stuff of the cd drive.07:09
billybonganybody?07:10
geniiconor Looks like yer not the only one with this particular issue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=786707:10
Conoractually, it sounds like how a cd bruner sounds07:10
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Conorthis sounds allittle different07:11
Conorfirstly, it was an older version of ubuntu07:11
Conorand his computer crashed, not hung07:11
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Conorokay, so what do you think?07:12
Conorhey, should crash and restart my computer now?07:13
kerwonzhi, how can i enable 3D for intel video card?07:13
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kkerwinolodumare: You still there?07:13
geniiconor Looks like using "noacpi" was his solution... I am also finding some ppl saying there is some thermal acpi problems stuff etc..looking into it now07:13
olodumarekkerwin: yep.  This is my mother's palm/linux thing going on here, and she tried some fixes earlier.  She changed the customrules files07:14
kkerwinUh oh.07:14
olodumarekkerwin:  It looked like she was looking at an old thread for breezy07:14
olodumarekkerwin: So I undid that07:14
Conorgenii: I tried the noacpi option, it didnt help07:14
kkerwinolodumare: Ok. And what's the status?07:14
olodumarekkerwin: But i think I need to restart udev.  or maybe just restart pc07:14
geniiconor What is the make of your laptop ?07:15
kkerwinolodumare: "sudo /etc/init.d/udev restart"07:15
Conordell, E170507:15
Conorthanks for all you help, genii07:16
olodumarekkerwin:  Well, on hotsync (on the palm) I did "ls -l /dev/ttyUSB*" and nothing was found07:16
geniiconor np, just taking some time to track it all down :) have some patience07:16
Conoryeah sure07:17
olodumarekkerwin:  and "ls -l /dev/pilo*" and nothing was found07:17
kkerwinolodumare: Try hotsync'ing, and then try "ls -l /dev/ttyS*"07:17
olodumarekkerwin: Ooh, results!  I get s0, s1, s2, and s307:18
kkerwinolodumare: Are those there when the hotsync'ing isn't happening?07:18
olodumarekkerwin: let me find out!07:18
geniiconor Hmm... does this laptop use SATA hard drive?07:18
olodumarekkerwin: Curses, yes they are.07:18
Conorno idea07:19
kkerwinolodumare: Drat.07:19
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kkerwinolodumare: I'm very sorry, but I'm lost.07:19
Conorisnt it a liveCD, though?  It shouldnt be loading the hard drive07:19
kkerwinolodumare: You may try #kpilot to see if they might be of any help.07:19
olodumarekkerwin: I really appreciate all the help!07:20
kkerwinolodumare: They seem to be idling right now.07:20
kkerwinolodumare: No problem. I just wish that I could have helped you fixed the problem.07:20
kkerwinolodumare: Peace. I'm headed to bed. Merry Christmas, friend!07:20
geniiconor Yes. I am looking at some pages where ppl are having difficulty with Dell sata installs atm07:20
olodumarekkerwin:  Me too :)  But I appreciate the effort just the same07:20
olodumarekkerwin: Right back atchya07:20
geniiconor Did you try the "rescue" mode to see if it will bott in some fashion?07:21
kkerwinolodumare: Alright. Thanks for your appreciation. I'm out.07:21
Conorrescue mode?07:21
joshuajtlanyone... google earth?07:21
Conorgenii: It has a "safe graphics" mode, but that doesnt help07:21
geniiconor You can get it into rescue mode by typing in "rescue" where it says boot:07:22
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geniino options etc07:22
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geniiconor If it will boot to rescue mode (command-line etc)  there is hope yet to get it to install07:23
Conorno options?07:24
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geniiconor usually no options but you could put for instance noacpi or vga  if you like07:24
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Conorso, delete all the stuff thats there?  like, root=/dev/ram?07:25
kerwonzhow can i enable the 3d for my video card?07:25
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geniiconor Yup, at the start it should have something that is the kernel name, replace that with "rescue"07:25
geniino quotes07:25
Conorit says file=/cdrom/pressed/kubuntu.ssed boot=casper initrd=/casper/i I deleted the rest07:26
geniiconor the kubuntu.seed file etc is for the install07:27
Conorare you f--ing kidding me?07:27
Conorwell, I guess thing it didnt work07:27
Conorgood thing07:27
max_anyone use project looking glas?07:28
max_glass*07:28
geniiconor I'll be back in a minute need to look up another alternate way to install07:28
Conorgenii, wait so, what should be07:28
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Conorthe command for the boot options? what should I delete?07:29
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geniiconor to go into rescue mode just wipe the whole line and put in "rescue" ... the rescue kernel will decide it's own options etc07:30
Conoroh okay07:30
Conorgenii: its doing something07:30
Conorwait07:30
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geniiconor Well if it boots up that will be good :)07:30
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Conorit says "kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(8,1)07:31
Conorwaits, theres more07:31
geniiconor thats OK07:31
Conorgenii: but it stopped after that...07:32
Conorwhat am I looking for?07:32
ConorIt looks like I have a command prompt07:32
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geniiConor Yeah you will need to reboot etc... Try the vga boot and add to the options noacpi and notsc07:32
Conorwait, so I should delete everything, type rescue vga noacpi notsc?07:33
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prakdoes anyone happen to know how to setup file and printer sharing between linux and windows computers?07:33
prakdoes it entail using samba?07:33
geniiconor No, when cd boot and splash screen with f1 f2 etc07:34
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Conorokay07:34
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fnord5anyone know how to join an irc channel from gaim?07:34
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Conorso I should select safe graphics mode and add the options noacpi and notsc?07:34
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geniiconor For boot options it looks like at least one person used "notsc" to boot when it was problemmatic on edgy07:34
geniiyes07:35
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Conorokay, its going07:36
Conorhold on...07:36
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Conorit looks like its got as far as the true progress bar07:36
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geniicore duo seems to have some timing issues which notsc helps with07:37
matthewgenii, very nice.07:37
Conorwait, Im not sure if that fixed it07:38
matthewConor, lol, hope I didn't jinx it...07:38
geniimatthew :)07:38
bradleyhey, does anyone know where there is a list of bugs for edgy?07:38
geniiconor It's going further than before though?07:38
ConorI dont know07:38
Conoryou see, theres two progress bars07:38
Conorone doesnt actually tell you about the progress, it just bounces07:39
geniiOK well give it a minute to see if it's still going to the CD for stuff etc07:39
Conorthe other comes later, and its a true progress bar that gets longer from left to right07:39
Conorwell, actually, its dead silent07:39
fnord5anyone know how to join an irc channel from gaim?07:39
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prakdoes anyone happen to know how to setup file and printer sharing between linux and windows computers? does that entail using samba?07:40
ConorIts not accessing the CD07:40
fnord5anyone know how to join an irc channel from gaim?07:40
geniiconor fnord5 http://wiki.freeculture.org/IRC_with_Gaim07:40
geniicrap07:40
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geniifnord5 http://wiki.freeculture.org/IRC_with_Gaim07:40
fnord5thanks07:41
geniifnord5 np07:41
Conorits doing a hole lot of nothing again07:41
geniiConor OK just to be sure it's hanging give it some more time first. Like 2 min utes even07:41
Conorokay07:42
geniiconor There may be other switches needed for over 1G ram... looking into it07:42
Conorjezz...07:42
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geniiconor Maybe useful link for you as well: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/DellInspiron940007:44
bradleyanyone else broke their xserver, getting 'Kdm: hung in XOpenDisplay(:0)', cannot connect to :007:45
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Conorwait, the 9600 is the E1705?  is that ever confusing07:45
OlodumareHey, here is a problem that should be easy to fix!:  I had Ubuntu, then installed KDE, and now it comes up Kubuntu splash and login, but once I login, I'm still in Gnome.  What gives?07:46
geniiconor Yeah I know :)07:47
Conorgenii: Im a little confused07:47
Conorgenii: I dont know how to harvest information from a document like this07:47
geniiolodumare install kdm then use the options in the login to set which window manager07:47
fnord5i had that too i think you have to uninstall some package07:48
bradleycheck your default xserver, in gdm or kdm07:48
bradleyas in when you login07:48
geniiconor Interestingly it shows on the chart that Edgy livecd should work on that laptop, but in your case it obviously is not07:49
Olodumaregenii: KDM is installed, I will try login options07:49
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Conorhow about acpi=off noapic nolapic07:49
geniiconor perhaps try those with the notsc07:50
geniiin vga if possible07:50
Conorit said not to use notsc with x86-3207:50
Conor"Note: Do not add the notsc kernel option mentioned in the x86-64 sections below. It will create a kernel panic with a x86-32 kernel. "07:50
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geniiconor Yes, but it did not give you a kernel panic earlier so it must be choosing the 64 bit kernel07:51
geniiconor You do have a Core Duo, yes?07:52
Conoryeah07:52
Conorits not 64 bit, a least is should be07:52
Conorwhy would it choose the 64 bit kernel?  isnt that bad?07:52
rcrookyou may have the wrong iso on the cd07:53
geniiconor Did you choose the i386 distro ?07:53
ConorI coulda sworn I did07:53
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geniiconor OK, try either with or without the notsc as you like LOL07:54
rcrookif you have the x86_64 iso I think you may be booting on the wrong arch07:54
Conorwell, yeah07:54
malik__any1 knows abt todays updates?........all seems office related...........shud these be downloaded?07:54
Conoralthough, this summer Id like to build a 64 bit computer07:55
ConorI thought Id go amd.  The situation might change by then, but is that the way to?07:55
Conorhmmm...07:55
Conorwell, the progress bar has stopped already07:55
Conoroh!07:55
geniiconor I like AMD ... I run some Opteron systems on amd64 kernel and they whizz along great07:56
Conorwait07:56
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Conoruh oh genii, i think you just achieved linux guru status in my heart07:56
genii:)07:56
ConorIm applauding you, literally07:56
geniiSo successful boot I hope then?07:56
Conorman, is kubuntu 6.10 a beautiful desktop07:57
intelikeyif you had three partitions 1g 4g 4g   and was going to install linux how would you use them ?    (forget swap. i don't do swap.)07:57
matthewConor, lol, he's got that status in many of our hearts...lol07:57
genii1G /home 4G / 4G /var07:57
Jucato1G for /home?!?! :O07:58
intelikeygenii why /var ?07:58
geniiintelikey Because /var/mail cache gets huge etc07:58
intelikeyJucato i see nothing wrong with what genii said.  just wondering why var07:59
Jucatointelikey: yeah, nothing wrong. I07:59
Conorgenii: no, lets talk about installation07:59
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intelikeygenii hmmm ok.    i don't guess that applies if you don't setup a mail server genii07:59
genii1G for home because I untar a lot into my home dir then transplant it to the /bin /sbin etc etc07:59
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JucatoI was just thinking about user files/documents, etc...07:59
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geniiconor So you are on your way to installing now?08:00
Conorwell, I wanted to step back and make sure everything worked first08:01
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ConorI like the video they have on what the word ubuntu means08:01
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geniiintelikey If 4G is normally OK size for all stuff normally on, then you could go mirror raid 4G08:01
Conornelson mandele08:01
geniiconor :)08:01
Conormandela08:01
Conoranyway,08:02
intelikeytrue.   but i think i'd rather go  4g/  and 4g backup not normally mounted than raid08:02
genii1G /boot also works08:03
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intelikeyyeah but 1g /boot is excessive.  wasteful08:03
intelikey /boot takes up about 10m for me.08:03
geniiGiving it it's own partition whatever size means you can use some exotic fs on /08:03
Conorhey, genii, how do I get to the kde control center (dont remember the name) or matthew08:04
JucatoConor: K Menu -> System Settings08:04
Jucatoor, press Alt+F2, type in "kcontrol"08:04
Conoroh...08:04
intelikeyConor  or konsole command   kcontrol08:04
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geniimore than one way to skin a cat :)08:05
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intelikeywith linux, always08:05
ConorI cant find the keyboard layout for dvorak08:06
intelikeyspeaking of skinning cats.   some one skined a dog and dumped the carcase near here....   never see that done before...08:06
geniiintelikey Wow, thats brutal08:06
intelikeygenii probably not if the dog was dead.....08:06
ConorActually, can I just install it to use dvorak?  Mepis didnt have that option, so the login screen and terminal were qwerty08:07
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geniiConor You already selected a dvorak keyboard but now it needs subtype?08:07
ConorNo, I cant find dvorak on the list08:07
geniieg: U.S. English , etc etc08:07
Conoroh, here we go08:08
Conorin mepis it was listed seperately08:08
geniiAh, OK08:08
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geniiAlright I need to take 5 for a coffee run, I am pulling another allnighter at the office. Be back in a while08:09
Conorwait08:09
Conorgenii08:09
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runpainGod day all08:09
Conoror matthew?08:09
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genii-awyconor OK08:09
Conorsorry08:09
genii-awyarg08:09
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runpainneed help with icthux again08:09
intelikeyor i could just install on 4g/  install windows in the 1g and have the other 4g blank for what ever....08:09
Conoris there an easy way to swap the caps-lock and backspace?08:09
ConorI like to do that08:09
runpaini clean installed and it will not get past logon08:10
genii-awayConor after X is on you can modify the key setting easier08:10
Conorhmm...08:10
LynoureConor: xmodmap works well for that, I think.08:10
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Conorprobably because of all the stuff we had to do to get it to boot, it wont go above 1024x76808:11
runpaini put user name and password and it goes to the cursor and then back to logon08:11
genii-awayI'm not sure you can specify user key settings during initial install08:11
Conorcan I fix that after I install?  It was hell to fix on mepis08:11
fnord5the devil types in dvork,goodnight yall08:11
genii-awayfnord5 gnite08:11
Conorgod damn it, if the devil types in dvorak, im with the devil08:11
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runpainhello08:12
runpainGod last name ant damn08:12
genii-awayOK I *REALLY* need caffeine! See you all in 5 or so08:12
runpainany way08:12
intelikeyrunpain nor "it"08:12
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runpaini will08:12
runpainintel can you help me with problem08:13
intelikeyrunpain maybe.    do you have a .Xsession  file ?08:13
runpaini guess08:13
intelikeydrop to a console and see.08:14
runpain i am in single user mode rite now08:14
runpainhow i check08:14
intelikeyi see.  well ls -A your user's home then.08:14
runpaini am in console now08:14
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Conorsince genii is gone, Im just gonna trough this out08:15
runpainat root@bible-laptop:~#08:15
runpainim a new bie08:15
intelikeywhere the user's home is.   /home/something08:15
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ConorSince I had all this trouble booting the liveCD, will that get fixed in the install, or do I have to do a lot of run around?08:15
intelikeyConor we can only hope.08:16
Conorugh08:16
Conorokay, I can deal with that08:16
runpainhow do i reconfigure08:16
intelikeyrunpain what is the username ?08:16
runpainbill08:17
intelikeyreconfigure what ?08:17
Conormaybe what I should ask is, am I ready to overwrite mepis?08:17
intelikeyls -A /home/bill08:17
ConorAnd by the way08:17
runpainsorry where do i look for that .xsession file08:17
intelikeyls -A /home/bill08:18
runpainok will try08:18
intelikeyif it isn't there  we'll make one.08:18
runpain-a command not found08:18
runpaino forgot ls08:19
Conorintelikey: I have a boot loader (I think its grub) that boots mepis or windows.  I'd like to overwrite mepis.  Will kubuntu do that correctly?08:19
Conorespecially with the boot loader08:19
intelikeyConor should   but like i said   if it's some very unique hardware   you could encounter trubble.   no promices from me.08:20
Conorhmm...08:20
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intelikeyyou'll not be saying 'but intelikey said....'08:21
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Conorokay, fine08:21
runpain.x authority .bash_profile .dmrc .bash-logout .bashrc .xsession-errors08:21
runpainExamples in blue08:21
Conorhey, when I ran mepis It had trouble opening a lot of media files08:21
geniiMmmmmm Tim Hortons :)08:21
runpainnever had problem with mepis my self08:22
ConorI later learned that that was because of legal issues, and the was a simple "back door" that opened all that up08:22
geniiconor Well in all linux distros proprietary media codecs are prolemmatic (ape,wmv, etc etc)08:22
Conorokay08:22
ConorI understand08:22
intelikeyrunpain start      <<< and hit the tab key a couple times   see if you have start-kde  in the list it chucks out.08:23
Conorbut are the problems "solvable" or do I have to reboot in windows, ect08:23
runpainintelikey: do you see my problem08:23
Conorin particular, I had trouble playing dvds08:23
nixternalConor: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats08:23
geniiconor Where there are no native linux codecs there is good success using wine to use the win32 dll etc08:23
Conorokay, we can talk about that later08:24
runpaindisplay all 1742 possibilites?(yes or no)08:24
geniibetween flacc and lame tho most are covered08:24
robotgeekConor: dvd is pretty easy, install libdvdcss208:24
robotgeek!dvd > Conor08:24
nixternalyou can wget the win32codecs with instructions from that page if need be. also info on getting your dvds to play is on that list as well08:24
intelikeyrunpain you put a space.  don't      start[tab] [tab] 08:24
nixternalrobotgeek: i so need to start using the bot :)08:24
ConorIm just trying to think of what to make sure of before taking that dive and installing the thing08:25
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runpainyes have .kde08:25
intelikeyno.08:25
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runpain.kde/08:25
FisherPI've got Ubuntu Dapper with kubuntu-desktop, and I'm thinking of doing the upgrade to Edgy.  Has anyone had problems doing this????08:25
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geniiI need to print a sticker for my Windoze 2K box at work that says "My other computer is an Edgy!"08:25
intelikeytype this exactly.   using the tab key where you see [tab]   ok.       start[tab] [tab] 08:26
intelikeyrunpain ^08:26
runpainyes i will try08:26
intelikeyrunpain we are looking for something like   " start-kde "08:26
runpainyes startkde08:26
intelikeyok08:27
runpainplease i am slow08:27
runpaintyper08:27
intelikeyok you are doing fine.   do this next line just like i post it.08:27
runpainok08:27
geniiFisherP I upgraded from Dapper to Edgy with no hitches on my home box (P3 1.4, ASUS motherboard)08:28
intelikeyecho 'startkde' > /home/bill/.Xsession08:28
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FisherPgenii thanks :-)08:29
malik__any idea abt todays office updates?08:29
geniiFisherP you may want to look at:http://www.debianadmin.com/upgrade-ubuntu-dapper-to-ubuntu-edgy-eft.html08:30
geniibleh08:30
malik__they are damn 70mb ......if they are not essential then how do i turn em off?08:30
geniiFisherP you may want to look at: http://www.debianadmin.com/upgrade-ubuntu-dapper-to-ubuntu-edgy-eft.html08:30
runpainok back to root@bible-laptop08:30
geniibetter08:30
intelikeyrunpain that should get you going.  you can go test it. now.   by issuing this command      init 2         if for some reason it's still not working for you.   you can [ctrl] +[alt] +[f1]  and you are right back to a console.08:30
_kuja_malik__: probably a security update, and if you think it's non-essential, disable the ubuntu-security repos.08:31
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FisherPgenii were u running a vanilla box or added stuff from univers and multiverse??08:31
runpainwell back to logon08:31
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intelikeyyes and login as bill.08:31
geniiFisherP I uncommented all repos and had added some for install of special packages like gizmoproject and some others08:32
_kuja_malik__: or the ubuntu-updates repos, whichever it happens to be coming from08:32
runpaindid and im back to logon08:32
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FisherPgenii so in effect things from multiverse were/are still dapper???08:32
intelikeyrunpain then something is not configured right or is not installed right.   lets check the first.     do this  as root      dpkg --configure -a08:33
runpaini even restrted xserver08:33
runpainok08:33
runpainwait08:33
FisherPgenii sry should have read right08:33
geniiFisherP There are multiverse/universe releses separate for each version. But it did fine on apt-get upgrade08:33
intelikeydpkg --configure -a08:34
runpainhad to do console08:34
intelikeyyes.08:34
FisherPgenii i got you now :-)08:34
runpainwaiting for it08:34
malik__kuja_: which suit u use?.......koffice?08:34
_kuja_Yeah08:35
runpaino by the way it said hangup after init 2 before08:35
intelikeyyeah.08:35
FisherPgenii thanks again... I did install Edgy on a separate partition just fine, but it was vanilla without the Nvidia drivers... I dont suppose you have Nvidia too?08:35
FisherPgenii install dapper upgraded to edgy08:36
malik__what is vanilla?08:36
geniiFisherP No, a problemmatic ATI 8500DV LOL08:36
runpaindarn have to start computer up agian08:36
malik__!vanilla08:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vanilla - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:36
intelikeyrunpain why ?08:36
runpainit would not go to consel08:36
intelikeyalt+ctrl+f108:36
geniimalik_ vanilaa is a "stock" or "out-of the-box" install08:36
runpainso i hit ctrl alt f808:36
FisherPmalik vanilla is without anything which might break08:36
_kuja_unchanged, generic08:36
intelikeyf108:36
intelikeynot f808:37
runpainoops08:37
intelikeyany of f1 - f6 should work.08:37
runpainok back to cionsel still booting to root08:37
intelikeydpkg --configure -a08:37
FisherPgenii some posts i've read say that the Nvidia upgrade breaks the upgrade08:38
runpainok08:38
runpaindid the dpkg08:39
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geniiFisherP You could always use some generic driver like vesa or svga, do the install, then mess with the video after08:39
runpainback to root08:39
intelikeyif it says nothing   tell me     if it says lots of stuff just tell me the line that starts with   Error.08:39
FisherPgenii yeah i've thought of that... I might just do it, but not till AFTER Christmas.08:39
geniiFisherP But as far as NVidia-specific help I couldn't be of much help there08:39
malik__well for nvidia one have to uninstall them upgrade the distro n then install nvidia again...............atleast thats gow it was in fedora but im on kubuntu now so ..........08:39
FisherPMerry Christmas Everyone !!!!!08:40
_kuja_FisherP, you woke up 3 days early08:40
_kuja_or 408:40
genii_kuja_ Heh!08:40
runpainit asked for password i gave it pass word and it says bash:command not found08:40
_kuja_depending if Eve counts ...08:41
FisherP_kuja well I'm NOT gunna be on IRC on Christmas day, so Y not :-)08:41
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FisherPand Happy New Year08:41
intelikeyrunpain what command ?08:41
FisherPkuja LOL08:41
runpainwait let me back up again08:41
geniiintelikey apparently bash shell is not in PATH08:42
runpainreal easy please08:42
runpain:)08:42
FisherPthanks everyone... GTG  and runpain, I hope that you will get it all sorted out :-)08:42
_kuja_/bin/bash?08:42
runpainthaks fish God bless08:42
_kuja_Later FisherP08:42
intelikeygenii that would prevent login on the console.   but not login kde   he has said it's the other way around.08:42
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geniiintelikey Ah, OK... from the line he put, it appeared the CLI interpreter was confused about where the default shell was08:43
intelikeyrunpain you loged into the console right ?08:43
runpainback to  root@bible-laptop ~#08:43
runpainyes08:44
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intelikeyrunpain ok at that do this.   root@bible-laptop ~# dpkg --configure -a08:44
Conorhey, whats the root pass?08:44
geniidash vs sh/bash likely08:44
intelikeyConor there isn't one.08:44
malik__Conor: user pw08:44
Conoroh08:45
runpainit asks for pass word08:45
geniiconor Root login is disabled by default08:45
krautmoin08:45
Conorwhats the default user pw?08:45
Conoris there a reason for that?08:45
intelikeyConor there isnt one.08:45
malik__whatever u selected on setup08:45
_kuja_There is no default, AFAIK, you have to set it08:45
Conorummm...08:45
Jucato!root08:46
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.08:46
Conorbut this is a liveCD08:46
runpainbash again08:46
intelikeyso just use sudo blah.08:46
ConorAFAIK?08:46
malik__Conor: nothin on live cd08:46
_kuja_and if it's an account you create later, andyou don't set it, you might not be able to log into it, or it might default to a blank password08:46
geniiconor On livecd should be no pw08:46
JucatoAFAIK = As Far As I Know08:46
intelikeyrunpain ok.  no error messages ?08:46
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geniiin worst case lost pw, boot to singleuser and change it with passwd08:47
runpainok back to root@bible-laptop08:47
geniiconor Ah, so you are not booted to hd yet?08:47
intelikeythere is NO passwd on the liveCD08:47
intelikeyyou can set one.08:47
runpaini am not in live08:47
Conorbut, how do I get into su mode? Ah, it doesnt matter, I dont need to08:48
intelikeyrunpain that was not at you.08:48
runpaini installed it to hard drive08:48
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MuJtype sudo su08:48
runpaino ok08:48
intelikeyrunpain did it say E:   or  Error:  ?08:48
runpainlet me work with one person at a time08:48
Conorsudo su... haha08:48
runpainno08:48
intelikeyok08:48
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MuJConor: what haha? gives you root =)08:49
geniiconor Yeah it's weird, kinda defeats the purpose of locking out root08:49
intelikeyrunpain apt-get remove kde-core08:49
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Conordoes that work in a real version of linux, or just the livecd?08:49
Conorbecause it seems like a violation08:49
intelikeyrunpain that box is on the network isn't it ?08:49
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geniiconor It works in all distros far as I know08:49
MuJsure it does.. if you've set sudoers properly08:50
runpainlogin incorrect08:50
intelikeyi should have asked first then given the command ....08:50
runpainwait08:50
Conorwait, do you have to type the password08:50
runpainerr08:50
geniiconor If you do sudo you put the user pw . On livecd it should not ask for pw08:50
intelikeywait is right.    runpain    i thought you were logged in    on a console ?08:50
Conorwhen I did it on mepis, it did nothing08:51
intelikey root@bible-laptop ~#  <<<< like that.08:51
runpainlogon incorrect08:51
runpainyes i was but it times out08:52
geniiOK some systems are beeping at me from the cluster... AFK08:52
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runpain60 seconds08:52
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runpainerr08:53
intelikeyno you're not.   if it times out.   it's the password timming out.08:53
runpainya08:53
runpainwait08:53
intelikeysounds like you may have both getty and bash running one that console.  switch to the next one.08:53
intelikeyalt+f208:54
intelikeylogin there.08:54
runpainerrrrrrrr08:54
runpainlogon incorrect08:54
intelikeywho are you tring to login as ?08:55
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intelikeylogin as bill08:55
runpainok got to bill08:55
intelikey sudo dpkg --configure -a08:55
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intelikeythat should work now.        :)08:56
runpaingoes back to bill@laptop:~#08:56
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intelikeyok sudo killall kdm08:57
runpaindid08:57
intelikeyyou may have to hit  alt+f2 afterwords.08:57
intelikeystartx08:57
runpainabunch of stuff08:58
runpain;{08:58
intelikeyline that starts with  EE ?08:58
runpaina bunch08:59
intelikeywe may not have kdm killed try this08:59
intelikeysudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop08:59
intelikeythen do the     startx     again.09:00
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Conorsudo Im going to bed09:00
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intelikeysudo mount -o remount,sleep /dev/conor's-brain /pillow09:01
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runpainxf860penserial:cannot open device stopping display manager:kdm not running09:01
intelikey:)09:01
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Conorwait, shouldnt it be09:01
runpain stopping display manager:kdm not running09:01
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Conoroh I get it09:01
intelikeyrunpain ok   and   startx09:01
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runpain(EE)09:02
intelikeyrunpain the rest of the EE line please09:02
arsenyNNNNhello. i need to install g++ 4.0.3 (not older). I type # apt-get install g++-4.0 The following packages have unmet dependencies:  g++-4.0: Depends: libstdc++6-4.0-dev (= 4.0.3-1ubuntu5) but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages     But if I remove current version of libstdc++ and install previous (necessary for g++) I will lost more dependences. What should I do?           Thank you.09:02
runpainxf860penserial:cannot open device /dev/wacom no such file or diretory09:03
intelikeyrunpain that's not  EE is it ?    that's   WW ?09:03
runpainno ee09:03
intelikeyhmmmm09:03
intelikeywell any others ?09:04
runpaincould not init font path element /usr/share/fronts.x11.ttf and otf and cid09:05
runpain3 of them in a row09:05
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goodthingoops, when you dpkg-reconfigue -a and quit that from the first screen, will the system than have configuration issues?09:05
Conorhey, guys09:05
ConorI was playing with the screen savers and it looks like x crashed09:05
intelikeyk   any other (EE)'s ?09:06
runpainno just the same one listed 4 times09:06
Ash-FoxIs it just me who has a problem resolving kubuntu.org09:06
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moodycze09:07
moodymam sprawe09:07
Ash-Fox!pl09:07
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl09:07
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intelikeygoodthing shouldn't   there are very few things (moments there of)  that it could hose things.   but it may leave a stale lock file in /var/lib/dpkg/09:07
runpain;{09:08
runpain;{(09:08
intelikeyrunpain let me hear you say again exactly what you see when the system boots up normally ?09:08
intelikeythe last screen.09:09
runpainxf860penserial:cannot open device /dev/wacom no such file or diretory09:09
intelikeyplease describe ?09:09
runpaincould not init font path element /usr/share/fronts.x11.ttf and otf and cid09:09
intelikeyno at boot time.09:09
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runpaini need to re boot09:09
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runpain?09:10
intelikeyok you can.   and don't touch anything let it go until it is doing nothing and then tell me what you see.09:10
runpainok be rite back09:11
intelikeyi'm having trubble here understanding some of the things you have said in light of this later information....09:11
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runpainwhile i wait my wife has M.S and she fell today and broke a toe09:12
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runpainplease pray for her we are to sign on a new house the 29 th09:12
intelikeysorry to hear that.   i will.    and maybe you should attend to her in this spare time.09:12
goodthingthanks intelikey, a reboot later on would just fix this?09:12
runpainshe is a sleep09:13
intelikeygoodthing probably not.   another dpkg --configure -a   might.09:13
runpainlike i should be i am a barber and have to get up at 500 to make her breakfast it 2:14 here09:13
runpaini am back to logon09:14
intelikeyok describe it ?09:14
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runpaini used my username and password and it came back to logon again09:14
goodthing:)09:15
intelikeyis it graphical or text   is there a mouse cursor ?09:15
intelikeyi'm trying to get the total picture of what you are up against there runpain09:16
runpainit is the graphical then when i sgn in the screen flashes then the mouse apparers09:16
runpainthen it goes back to graphic09:16
runpainlogon09:16
intelikeyok   that's kdm looping  but why.....09:17
runpainummm09:17
runpainO_o09:17
intelikeyand startx wont start the gui   that's not normal.09:17
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runpaini know09:18
MuJdoes kdm usually start if x fails?09:18
intelikeyrunpain can you select the session to login to ?09:18
runpainyes09:18
intelikeyMuJ no.  that's the thing that's baffeling me.09:18
MuJyeah, sounds wierd to me too09:18
matthewintelikey, dude, I talked with dave_ again...it was terrible...09:18
runpaini have tried that09:19
runpainam09:19
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runpainback to logon09:19
geniiI wonder if all X setting files in /home/username are owned by username09:19
intelikeyrunpain selsct something else    and login in.09:19
runpaini tried kde09:19
intelikeymatthew ?09:19
runpainnow fail safe09:19
runpainback again09:19
runpainO_o09:20
matthewintelikey, yes? don't you remember dave_? He was the guy who couldn't remember the command to edit his sources.list...09:20
runpaindefault now09:20
matthewintelikey, guess I'm being kind of demeaning, huh?09:20
matthewsorry09:20
intelikeyrunpain try reconfiguring x09:20
runpainback again09:20
intelikeymatthew yes i remember him.09:20
runpainhow09:21
intelikeyin a console09:21
intelikeysudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:21
runpainok09:21
geniirunpain sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:21
geniiheh09:21
matthewgenii, lol, _how_ many times did I run that?09:22
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intelikeymatthew was it a bad day    </chuckels(i told you so'ishly)>09:22
geniimatthew Quite a few :)09:22
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matthewintelikey, no...I went to bed right after...wanted to avoid another like hime ;>)09:22
intelikeylol09:23
runpainok am doing09:23
matthewgenii, lol, at least 2009:23
matthewintelikey, what's the story with runpain?09:24
prakis there any way to configure samba for accessing files and printer on a window computer graphically?09:24
intelikeymatthew kdm starts but can't startx   got hime reconfiguring xorg now.09:24
geniimatthew Something interesting: I got 2 ATI AIW cards setup on an experimental uber-box ...one is a 7500 AGP and one is a 7500 PCI :)09:24
matthewgenii, I hate you.09:24
matthewgenii, in a loving way, of course...09:25
MuJO_o09:25
intelikeymatthew i've never seen kdm run and startx wouldn't  before.09:25
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geniiI dunno if they do the 3D extensions, I doubt it09:25
matthewgenii, I'm looking at buying an nvidia something-or-other on ebay...09:25
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runpainam at user of Powerpc machines09:25
matthewintelikey, hmmm...don't know what's the problem...he's doing dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?09:25
runpainbusid09:25
intelikeyah and it's a mac  ???09:26
geniiThere is a default x setting in the kdm substructure which can have different settings than in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:26
runpaindont know what to do09:26
intelikeymatthew yes.09:26
matthewrunpain, you may want to do sudo apt-get install kdm from console09:26
intelikeyrunpain is that a mac box ?09:26
runpainits an hp Omnibook 415009:26
matthewrunpain, wait, is it a PPC machine, or an HP pc?09:26
matthewrunpain, wait...I thought you said mac09:27
intelikey<runpain> busid <<< sorry missed that.    lspci09:27
geniiThat should be a P2 40009:27
runpainwait09:27
intelikeyin another console run    lspci09:27
runpainstill recon09:27
geniirunpain Do you have more than 128 Ram??09:27
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runpainyup 192ram09:28
geniiheh just barely meets install specs :)09:28
Conorhey, whats the default password for the liveCD09:28
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intelikeygenii you talking vidio ram ?09:28
geniigenii No system09:28
geniiintelikey No system09:28
intelikeyand that applies how ?09:29
runpainyes system09:29
ConorI locked the screen, but now I cant unlock it09:29
runpainstill recon09:29
stdinConor: go to tty1 and set a pass09:29
ConorI tried it with no password, "ubuntu", "password", "root"09:29
goodthingConor: just enter?09:29
matthewConor, I think it's ubuntu09:29
geniisystem ram minus onboard shared video ram might = less than optimal ram for system to run09:29
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matthewConor, oh...sorry09:30
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intelikeygenii and how does amount of system ram apply to x config ?09:30
ConorI dont think I can access tty109:30
matthewintelikey, the liveCD needs enough RAM to run...09:30
stdinConor: Crtl-Alt-F1 ?09:30
Conoryeah, it just gives me a blank screen09:30
runpainwrite default files to config file yes09:30
intelikeygenii yes ok if he sets shared i can see that.09:30
Conorstdin... haha09:30
intelikeymatthew that's installed.  so...09:31
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intelikeyrunpain yes09:31
matthewintelikey, oh, it's all installed? my bad...09:31
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runpaindid09:32
geniiconor for console yes, ctrl-left alt-f1 usually puts you in tty1...may have to hit enter key to see login prompt09:32
runpainand am back at consel and will reboot09:32
intelikeymatthew it's supposed to be....      actually i'm not sure about any of it....  kdm running where xorg wont is like saying the bsod happes just before windows starts.....    dik.09:32
Conoroh09:32
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intelikeyrunpain no need to reboot just restart x09:33
matthewintelikey, lol...hmmm, runpain do you have any mission-critical data stored on your computer?09:33
matthewintelikey, he may just want to reinstall...09:33
runpainok09:33
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ConorI can actually start a new session09:33
matthewintelikey, although that is kind of a bad "solution" to the problem...09:34
intelikeymatthew cut losses and take greater casulties perhaps....09:34
runpainhow restart x09:34
geniirunpain do you know how to use the pastebin? A dump of /var/log/Xorg.0.log may be useful in figuring why X is failing09:34
matthewrunpain, alt+e09:34
matthewrunpain, alt+e is how you restart X09:34
intelikeyrunpain that the login screen  use alt+f7 to get there.  hit  alt+ctrl+backspace09:34
geniiconor consoles tty1 thru tty6 should be text consoles, then tty7 is usually running X of course :)09:35
intelikeygenii  i don't think he's talking on the box he's working on....09:35
runpaini hit alt f809:35
intelikeyas to the pastebin Q09:35
intelikeyf709:36
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geniiintelikey Ah, dumb me :)09:36
intelikeyrunpain alt+f709:36
geniichicken-egg situation09:36
runpainjust have flashing cursor09:36
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matthewrunpain, try a reinstall of kdm09:37
intelikeyrunpain ok alt+f109:37
intelikeyrunpain then     startx09:37
runpainok09:37
matthewgenii, intelikey I'm thinking it might be kdm, since he can obviously get X working, right?09:37
runpaingot ithe erros again09:37
intelikeymatthew ^09:37
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runpainO_o\09:38
intelikeyso no gui runpain ?09:38
matthewintelikey, ah...ok...09:38
geniiHe can run X from console but not from kdm?09:38
runpainnot09:38
matthewintelikey, would you outline the problem for me and genii?09:38
runpaingona reboot09:38
intelikeygenii no no x from startx  but gdm will run.09:38
momalproject glass... anyone tried that?09:38
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geniiintelikey Wow, thats a weird one09:38
soulridermomal: whats that ?09:38
intelikeyrunpain reboot will help nothing.09:38
runpainthen go to bed09:39
intelikeygenii tell me.09:39
matthewintelikey, want to try a reinstall of xserver and kdm/gdm?09:39
momalsoulrider: https://lg3d-core.dev.java.net/binary-builds.html09:39
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intelikeyrunpain ok    good night.   sorry we didn't get it fixed for you.09:39
momaldigg article: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Project_Looking_Glass_1_0_Released_209:39
ubuntuhello09:39
ubuntuthis is deus/conor09:39
soulriderstupid internet connection, BRB09:39
matthewrunpain, I'll be here for another few hours, then again tomorrow...I'm almost always on...09:39
geniiubuntu Heya deus :)09:39
runpainthis ichthux 6.10rc really sucks09:39
goodthingi have heard ksnapshot can be configured pretty well, anyone knows where this can be done?09:40
matthewmomal, is that a recent article?09:40
momalyes09:40
momallike 9 hours old09:40
runpainim rebooting09:40
matthewmomal, gonna look at it...09:40
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intelikeyrunpain some have no problems some have nightmares ....09:40
runpaink got watch cursor09:40
intelikeyk that's good.09:41
runpainok signed on09:41
intelikeyk09:41
runpainback to logon09:41
runpain same old same old09:41
intelikeysame story.09:41
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intelikeygood night.   tomarrow is another day.09:41
runpainwhat is the problem here09:41
momalwhats happening? kde is logining in and just auto going back to login screen ?09:42
runpainthe ichthucx 6.09 worked fine09:42
matthewmomal, from what I gather, kdm loads, but then X shuts down09:42
runpainyes thats what its doing09:42
ubuntuIm trying to set up my wireless internet09:42
runpainwhats happening? kde is logining in and just auto going back to login screen09:43
intelikeymomal and also he can kill kdm   and startx wont...... wait.09:43
intelikeyrunpain one more thing.09:43
runpainok09:43
intelikeydrop to a console and login09:43
runpainok one more time09:43
geniiubuntu Please do /nick deus   or /nick Conor , will make my life less confusing :)09:44
runpainok09:44
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intelikeyissue this command.    sudo chown bill:bill /home/bill -R09:44
Conoroh sorry, Im just on multiple computers09:44
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deushmm...09:44
geniiintelikey Thats what I thought it might be since I think he hand edited the .Xsession as root09:44
brandon_intelikey: can you help me remove the trash icon from my desktop?  i'm on feisty, and do not have anything in kcontrol.09:44
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geniideus I saw something about the wireless when trying to find the boot options09:45
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runpainback to bill@bible-laptop09:45
geniideus Lemme go thru history/refind09:45
intelikeyrunpain    hit alt+f7    and try to login again.09:45
runpainblinking cursor09:46
deushey, Im getting a whole lot of failure from this wireless this09:46
matthewmomal, man, looking glass looks very very nice...09:46
deusoh wait09:46
geniideus http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=177351409:46
momalmatthew: I'l try it out when i get some spare time in about an hour ^^09:46
intelikeygenii i thought we had ruled that out,  because i thought he ran startx as root eariler  but the console had dual sessions in it for some reason....09:46
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matthewmomal, genii, wish I had some 3d acceleration for my video card...lol w/ genii09:47
geniiif he was in /home/someuser dir then ran startx as root it overwrites all09:47
intelikeyrunpain     alt+f7   not f8    NOT f809:47
deushow can I find out if Im connected or not if I also have an ethernet running?09:47
runpainnothing09:47
geniideus ifconfig -a    shows connections. If eth0 has an IP you are likely connecting to router09:48
olodumare::weep::  Someone please shed some light on my palm situation!09:48
brandon_gah, how can i remove the trash from desktop09:48
intelikeyok alt+letf-arrow    as many times as it takes to get there.09:48
geniideus try to ping some known site for connectivity test eg: ping google.com   etc etc09:48
intelikeyalt+letf-arrow09:48
intelikey[alt] +[letf-arrow] 09:48
runpaink09:49
intelikey[alt] +[left-arrow] 09:49
runpaindid still inconsole09:49
intelikeyuntill you get to the graphic login screen09:49
intelikey[alt] +[left-arrow] 09:49
matthewdeus, you can also view your wireless info using iwconfig or wlassistant...09:49
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runpaindid it still flashing cursor09:49
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intelikeyyou aing there yet.09:50
intelikeyaint09:50
runpainthen when i do it one more time bck to console09:50
geniirunpain or try [alt] +[F6]  or possibly F7 key09:50
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Darkkishhey guys long time no chat09:50
intelikeyrunpain exit09:50
Darkkishif any of you even remember me09:50
intelikeyrunpain in the console exity09:51
intelikeyrunpain in the console exit09:51
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runpaindid back to login console09:51
DarkkishI am trying to install kubuntu on a toshiba laptop, and i can't get wireless working, this seems to be a common problem, i enable the card and after one or two seconds it disables it self agian09:51
runpaintty109:51
intelikeyok i give up.     you linux does not work like mine.    sorry.09:51
brandon_anyone know how to remove trash from desktop?09:52
runpainit is Kubuntu engine under the Ichthux 6.10rc09:52
matthewrunpain, I'll try to help you now, if you'd like...09:52
runpainok for a while i guess09:52
runpainmatthew09:53
matthewrunpain, let me look for info on Ichthux...09:53
intelikeyi even thought he might have "droped to console"  by clicking the console login button in kdm   but exiting should have ended that  no?09:53
runpainnot much on there web site09:53
geniideus Any luck on wireless front?09:53
matthewrunpain, gonna look at wikipedia...gotta love that place09:53
runpaintried there too09:54
Darkkishnobody knows?09:54
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DarkkishI enable my wireless card09:54
Darkkishwhich linux SEEMs to recognise09:54
Darkkishas genaric09:54
Darkkishthen it disabeles it shortly after i enable it...09:54
matthewrunpain, ok...did you just install ichthux?09:54
intelikey!wifi | Darkkish09:54
ubotuDarkkish: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs09:54
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brandon_sudo shutdown -h now09:54
Darkkishthanks i'll check tha tout09:54
runpainyes matthew09:54
matthewrunpain, or did you have it installed for a while, then it crashed?09:54
Conorhmmm09:54
runpainjust did09:55
brandon_how do i remove trash09:55
matthewrunpain, hmm...have you tried Ubuntu Christian Edition?09:55
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matthewrunpain, just a thought...09:55
runpainya got that one too09:55
matthewrunpain, you prefer ichthux?09:55
Conormatthew: or genii how do I get the computer to recognize a ethernet connection that wasnt plugged in when the computer booted without rebooting?09:55
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runpainno mepis09:56
matthewConor, /etc/init.d/networkd restart?09:56
geniiConor sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart09:56
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matthewConor, /etc/init.d/networking restart09:56
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matthewgenii, I defer to your superiour knowledge...lol09:56
runpainbut i liked ich fr the desktop watchword09:56
geniimatthew I just type faster09:56
genii:)09:56
matthewrunpain, you prefer mepis to ichthux or UCE?09:56
runpainya i could mess with grub and the splash screens09:57
intelikeybrandon_ what are you tring to do ?09:57
runpainand do root and all kinds of stuff09:57
brandon_remove the trash icon from the desktop09:57
brandon_on feisty09:57
runpainim new to this09:57
Conorhey! I got it09:58
matthewrunpain, you should be able to tweak grub and splash screens and stuff with ichthux and UCE...09:58
runpaini was doing it with ich 6.0909:58
matthewrunpain, so...have you tried a reinstall of Ichthux...09:58
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runpainabunch09:58
intelikeybrandon_ /join #ubuntu+1     feisty is still alpha/beta09:58
matthewrunpain, you might want to md5 your disc...09:58
runpaini did09:58
runpainit was fine09:58
ubuntu_matthew, genii, et al, Im going to bed, but thanks for all your help!09:59
matthewrunpain, hmmm, let me think on this one...09:59
brandon_isn't there a command to do it on edgy09:59
matthewubuntu_, uh, np09:59
matthew*whispers* genii, did I help ubuntu_ ?09:59
ubuntu_oh, sorry, this is conor/deus again09:59
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seven11how can i start firefox insted of konquerer from inside konversation /google -b linux  will open konquerer?09:59
runpainHay folks i will be back tomorrow God willing got to get some shut I09:59
matthewdeus, seriously...stop.09:59
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matthewrunpain, alright, I'll mull it over...ttyl10:00
intelikeybrandon_ rm -fr ~/Desktop/[T,t] rash*10:00
runpainGod Bless all and thank you from the top of my Heart:} O_o10:00
matthewgenii, any ideas? I'm fresh out...could be a bad graphics card that overheats when strained...or something..10:00
intelikeybut that wont keep it from comming back. brandon_10:00
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matthewgenii, lol, not from the bottom?10:01
matthewof his heart...10:01
Guardianhi10:01
matthewyeah...10:01
intelikeynot even middle...10:01
DarkkishSIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory10:01
matthewintelikey, lol10:01
Guardiani still have my problem with usb drives not mounted automatically10:01
Guardiani tried to reinstall hal but it did not help10:01
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seven11firefox from konversation anyone know how i do this10:02
Darkkishlol10:02
intelikeyi had a problem with cd drives mounting automatically   but i finally managed to get rid of all the automatic krap.10:03
DarkkishOpen the pod bay doors, HAL.10:03
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DarkkishI'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.10:03
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geniimatthew Sorry went AFK and lost some scroll10:03
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geniimatthew Bad card overheating with runpain ?10:04
malik__any good p2p client like limewire or even if limewire is available for edgy?10:04
matthewnp...runpain left...gonna come back tomorrow...ummm, I'm out of ideas...maybe...just an idea I'm tossing out there...10:04
intelikeygenii heh yeah that's what i thought... :)10:04
matthewmalik__, use ktorrent or azureus10:04
matthew!ktorrent > malik__10:04
matthew!azureus > malik__10:04
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intelikeywell when he comes back   i hope someone else helps him.    i like him.  but the more i try to help him, the more that gets strained....10:05
Darkkishwhen i do sudo ifup10:06
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Darkkishi get an error10:06
matthewintelikey, I felt the same way with Dave_10:06
intelikey:/10:06
matthewhe was almost like an 8-year old...10:06
malik__i have ktorrent i want somethin like limewire or e donkey so that i can get individual files i need instead downloading whole heap of thngs10:06
intelikeyalmost10:06
matthew!p2p10:07
ubotuConventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.10:07
intelikey!frostwire10:07
matthewmalik__, there you go ^^^^10:07
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire10:07
geniiHmm Omnibook 4150 has NeoMagic MagicGraph NM2200 combined video (2.5MB) and audio chip10:07
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matthewhmmm, I wonder when the last time he cleaned it out was (if ever)10:07
Darkkish!ifup10:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ifup - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:08
matthewgenii, intelikey I work in a computer shop...see lappys in there all the time with ounces of dust in the fans  and heatsinks...sad stuff...10:08
Darkkish!siocsifflags10:08
intelikeyDarkkish did you check the wifi page ?10:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about siocsifflags - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:08
genii!ifconfig10:08
intelikey!wifi | Darkkish10:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ifconfig - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:08
ubotuDarkkish: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs10:08
matthew!iwconfig10:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about iwconfig - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:08
genii!wlan10:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wlan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:09
matthew!wlassistant10:09
ubotuwlassistant: User friendly KDE frontend for wireless network connection. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 115 kB, installed size 572 kB10:09
genii!madwifi10:09
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs10:09
matthewyay!10:09
intelikey!network10:09
matthew!wireless10:09
geniiLOL !*10:09
matthewoh yeah10:09
matthewI won...I think...10:09
matthewgenii, don't you dare...10:09
geniiI think ubotu is going to strike for more pay soon10:09
intelikeyi think you guys flooded the bot right off the network.10:09
matthewintelikey, might have...at first I didn't realize it was a bot...10:10
matthewintelikey, genii it works pretty well though. I like it10:10
matthew!madwifi10:10
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs10:10
matthewok, he's still here...10:10
abattoirwireless and madwifi probably point to the same thing, and since it was trigerred w/i 8s, it didn't respond10:10
matthewabattoir, ah10:10
geniiYeah likely10:11
genii!nmap10:11
ubotunmap: The Network Mapper. In component main, is extra. Version 4.10-1 (edgy), package size 702 kB, installed size 2436 kB10:11
genii!snort10:11
ubotusnort: Flexible Network Intrusion Detection System. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.3.3-7 (edgy), package size 330 kB, installed size 800 kB10:11
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matthewintelikey, omg...check this out! http://www.whatwouldjesusdownload.com/main/10:12
matthew!airsnort10:12
ubotuairsnort: WLAN sniffer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.7e-1.1 (edgy), package size 49 kB, installed size 180 kB10:12
intelikey<genii> !madwifi <intelikey> !network <matthew> !wireless <<< yeah all one infonode.10:12
seven11somebody know where konversation puts its scripts10:13
Darkkishok ubotu is not helping10:13
matthewseven11, /home/[username] /.konversation10:13
Darkkishcan i talk to a person about my broadcom wireless card10:13
matthew!anyone10:13
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?10:13
Darkkishbecause i'm getting an error i cannot explain10:13
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malik__guyz what abt MLDonkey or amule ?........seems like they have the biggest network after the torrents?10:14
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geniiDarkkish http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1773514   <-- for another laptop but applies10:14
intelikeyapropos ?10:14
Darkkishi don't really want to use ndiswrapper if i don't have to...10:14
momalkonversation doesn't load japanese language when you set the system to japanese... even after logout/relogin weird :S10:14
Darkkishi've never ever had any luck with ndiswrapper10:15
seven11matthew: thats where i checked first      its not there10:15
matthewseven11, hmm...then I don't know...sorry10:15
Guardianhow to get back usb drive automounting please ? i tried to reinstall hal but it did not help10:15
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Darkkish...10:15
intelikeyseven11 /usr/share/konversation    or /usr/share/kde*10:16
Darkkishi guess i'[ll give ndis another chance10:16
geniiDarkkish I'm not certain there is a native linux driver, all refs I can find seem to be ndiswrapper related for Broadcom10:16
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seven11intelikey: thats where i checked second :)  its not there10:17
DarkkishDell Truemobile 130010:17
Darkkish...10:18
olodumareI use ndiswrapper for my laptop (broadcom chipset)  it works.10:18
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Darkkishits broadcom on the inside, dell on the outside...10:18
intelikeywhat's not there seven11 ?10:18
intelikeyseven11 what did you check for ?10:18
seven11i am looking for the konversation scrips intelikey10:19
intelikeylike i'm going to search for 'something' in /var/lib/   nope it's not there....10:19
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Darkkishhow do i install ndiswrapper without an internet connection10:19
geniiDarkkish Broadcom is only the chipset make that the wireless part of your laptop uses.10:19
intelikeyseven11 again what did you look for ?10:19
Darkkishi have no way of plugging my lappy into the router10:20
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intelikeyseven11 there is a reason i'm asking.10:20
matthewDarkkish, can you attach an ethernet cable to your laptop?10:20
seven11i have /usr/share/konversatio10:20
matthewDarkkish, oh, sorry, too late10:20
seven11and /usr/share/kde10:20
matthewgenii, can't he install from a CD...?10:20
seven11both no have10:21
intelikeyseven11 find /usr /var -type d -iname script10:21
olodumareGot a jumpdrive?10:21
matthewgenii, like, burn ndiswrapper to a cd, then insert the CD into his lappy...the apt-get install? gotta edit the sources.list though...10:21
geniimatthew As I gather he has a working installation but his wireless lan is the isssue10:21
matthewgenii,  I was talking about installing ndiswrapper from a cd...10:22
matthewDarkkish, how are you online right now?10:22
intelikeyif you could tell me what you wanted to find i could narrow that considerably.    but seeing that all you can say is "konversation's scripts"  that's about as narrow as i can go.10:22
geniimatthew Ah Ok, I got confoozed :)10:22
matthewgenii, you, confused? no way. lol10:22
intelikeyseven11 you can add etc to that if you don't find what ever it is you are looking for.......10:23
geniiApparently the native linux drivers for Broadcom are "bcm43xx" ....10:23
olodumareYeah, but they infrequently work.  sometimes you even have to blacklist that driver10:23
matthewok all, I just finished downloading Lost: Season 2...see you all in a week or so...lol10:23
geniiDarkkish If you do sudo lsmod|grep bcm    does it produce a result?10:24
geniiolodumare Ah, OK :) I'm just learning about this module as I go right now10:24
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kkathmananyone here done any advanced tweaking of their kubuntu system ?10:25
unix_infidelkkathman: that's a pretty generic question.10:25
unix_infidelwhat do you want to do today?10:25
matthew!anyone | kkathman10:25
ubotukkathman: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?10:25
matthewlol10:25
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kkathmanlol10:25
Darkkish@genii "Sorry, try again."10:25
kkathmanpoint taken... but my general point was to see if there was any advanced people around... so thanks :)10:25
DarkkishHAHAHAA10:26
Darkkishnvm >_>10:26
unix_infidellol @ advanced people.10:26
Darkkishyeah i get a few things that come up10:26
kkathmanim trying to remove some process from my system that I dont need10:26
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kkathmanlike bluetooth for instance10:26
intelikeyunix_infidel where they at ???10:26
lucahi everyone10:26
kkathmanI removed the S24bluetooth from the rc3 directory10:26
unix_infidelkkathman: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8949110:26
Darkkish@ genii I get a few things, ieeee80211softmac and ieeee8021110:26
geniiDarkkish Is there a line that shows wlan using this driver? (bcm43xx)10:27
kkathmanbut somewhere its being loaded again  cuz I see it occasionally as kbluetoothd10:27
Darkkishyes genii10:27
e1merwhats the equivalent for ipconfig/flushdns in linux10:27
geniiDarkkish OK let me think for a bit10:27
kkathmanunix_infidel:  I'll take a peek thanks very much for your help :)10:27
lucadoes someone now where I should file a supposed bug for AIGLX?10:27
geniielmer sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart10:28
intelikeye1mer linux uses ifconfig     man ifconfig10:28
intelikeyor do that total reset thing.... but that can hang things...10:29
seven11intelikey: ~/.kde/share/apps/konversation/10:30
seven11thanks10:30
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e1merintelikey: no flushdns10:30
intelikeyseven11 you said that it wasn't in your home dir  first raddle out of the box  ???10:30
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DarkkishLalala10:31
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seven11intelikey: sorry /usr/share/apps/konversation/scripts10:32
DarkkishI'm restarting my laptop because i'm getting su errors...10:32
Darkkishit could take a while (its only 750MHz)10:32
intelikeyseven11 ok.   did you find what you want in there ?10:32
seven11yes thanks10:33
geniiDarkkish This may help:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Edgy10:33
geniibleh10:33
geniiDarkkish https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Edgy10:33
Darkkishwow that was fast10:33
Darkkishk thanks genii10:34
intelikeyDarkkish if setup correctly linux can boot on a 750mhz box in the time it takes bios to post.10:34
geniinp10:34
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Darkkishyeah intelikey it actually booted pretty damn fast10:37
geniiDarkkish since it involves getting some packages you may need to use a 2nd box to d/l them/transfer over etc10:37
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intelikeyDarkkish yes  and i would imagine that it's wasting quit a bit of time still checking and probing for things that are not there.10:38
Darkkishunfortunatly intelikey your probably right.10:38
Darkkishand genii i've just unplugged my wifi routers cable and plugged it directly into the laptop10:38
Darkkishso if i start complaining about the wireless router not showing up after all of this10:39
Darkkishslap me.10:39
geniiDarkkish LOL alright10:39
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geniiI need to go work on some other computetrs so AFK a bit but checking in aver few minutes. Changing nick to genii-around10:39
intelikeyhmmm i think i need a new twm system.twmrc-menu  file.10:40
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intelikeytty23 [root@~]  update-menus10:40
intelikeyWarning: the string include-menu-defs did not occur in template file /etc/X11/twm//system.twmrc-menu10:40
intelikeytty23 [root@~] 10:40
intelikeyand twm menus don't get updated.10:40
intelikeymaybe adding that string will fix it.....10:42
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matthewk, I'm back...the season finale from season 1 hasn't completely downloaded...so I don't want to go onto season 2...and please, nobody tell me what happens.10:46
intelikeyoh you haven't seen it.10:47
intelikeywell it ends up with'10:47
Darkkishgenii-around i'm getting some errors about extracting firmware from old driver is bad10:47
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matthewintelikey, do you follow lost?10:49
Darkkishnvm10:49
Darkkishoh i used to10:49
Darkkishbut i havn't been latelyt :(10:49
genii-aroundDarkkish :( I'm outta ideas then10:50
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matthewDarkkish, I was about to finish season 1, but my friend borrowed the DVD and promptly lost it...I've been jonesing for it ever since. I found a site where I could watch it online...but only season 1...and no finale...it killing me...lol10:50
matthewok...enough lost...10:51
matthewgenii-around, what are you doing now? still net-installing?10:51
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Darkkishsad lol10:51
genii-aroundmatthew Yeah. I have to do a mirror of dapper repo now cuz the stupid winmodems we have won't compile on Edgy10:52
matthewDarkkish, yeah, I know...but I gotta know what that thing was that killed the pilot and moved all those tree10:52
matthewgenii-around, wait...you actually found a winmodem that is useful under linux?10:52
Darkkishgenii-around now it almost works10:52
matthewamazing...you really _are_ magical10:52
matthewlol10:52
genii-aroundmatthew Quite a few actually10:52
Darkkishbut when i scan it says "interface doesn't suppoetr scanning : no such device10:53
matthewgenii-around, I was under the impression that only serial modems and the like worked...10:53
genii-aroundintel 537EP   Lucent Agere winmodem (ltmodem) and Conexant cx11252 series (the problemmatic ones)10:53
matthewgenii-around, hmmm, might want to look at that...thank you genii-around10:54
genii-aroundDarkkish On that page the author says the exact same thing but that he can still get to the AP etc etc10:54
matthewgenii-around, what's the problem with the conexant ones? no drivers?10:55
genii-aroundmatthew Yesterday I was trying to remember evrything I forgot about C/C++ decoding all the source code for the damn Conexants10:55
DarkkishAP genii?10:56
genii-aroundmatthew Linuxant provides a free driver that is limited to 14.4 will sell you a driver keyed to your specific machine for about $20 no cap10:56
matthewgenii-around, whoa...nice...I know a little bit of C++...probably not enough to help, though10:56
matthewgenii-around, they get you every way, huh? no vaseline, no kiss, no reacharound...although 20 bucks isn't _that_ bad10:57
genii-aroundmatthew But the guy who does the drivers there (Mark Boucher) did open-source Conexant stuff previously and his source for pre 2.6 is still around10:57
matthewgenii-around, gonna port it to 2.6?10:57
rcrookOk, got a sensors problem. it keeps telling me it cant read the i2c detail from /sys... I can so I am not sure why it cant. I do have all the appropriate modules loaded but it is still complaining. any ideas?10:57
genii-aroundmatthew Some of it was already ported to 2.6 and mostly successfully compiles on 2.6.15-xx but for some reason on 2.6.17-xx fails miserably10:58
genii-aroundso dapper=works edgy=not work10:59
matthewgenii-around, hmm, why not just downgrade the kernel to 2.6.17?10:59
genii-aroundmatthew min kernel for edgy is 2.6.17-o generic   but the source which compiles successfully only so far can do up to 2.6.15 (Dapper )11:00
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DarkkishOMG11:00
DarkkishOMG!11:00
DarkkishI THINK ITS WORKING!11:00
genii-aroundDarkkish LOL11:00
matthewgenii-around, really? hmm, interesting...so, are you going to install Dapper on all Conextant modem machines?11:00
matthewDarkkish, very cool....love it when stuff works...11:00
genii-aroundmatthew Seeing as we bought 850 of them I'd say yes11:00
matthewgenii-around, rofl...although that may just be cause it's 2 in the morning...11:01
Darkkishme too matthew considering it rarely works for me11:01
Darkkishi love having to enter my password for EVERYTHING on linux >_>11:02
matthewgenii-around, think the customers are going to notice/object?11:02
Darkkishwell now this is interesting11:02
matthewDarkkish, it's just so you don't _really_ screw something up...you know?11:02
matthewDarkkish, at least, without knowing first...lol11:02
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genii-aroundmatthew Well since we bundle a dial-up account with each machine they would likely notice if the machine had no modem LOL11:03
Darkkishmoment of truth11:03
Darkkishdoes wifi work!11:03
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Darkkish"connection failed"11:03
matthewgenii-around, no, I meant notice/object about not having edgy...11:04
genii-aroundDarkkish after you disconnected the hard wire, did you do sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart   ?11:04
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genii-aroundmatthew I doubt they know enough about anything that is not Windoze11:05
DarkkishSUCSESS11:05
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matthewgenii-around, very nice...will you get paid extra to go help the 2500+ linux n00bs that you're inheriting?11:05
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DarkkishSUCCESS**11:05
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genii-aroundDarkkish Also I noticed in that help page that he remarked his wlan connection got put as nonstandard (eg not eth0 ) like eth1 or eth2 etc11:06
matthewgenii-around, hopefully they understand how to use the machine...packaged w/ a tutorial?11:06
genii-aroundDarkkish Cool :)11:06
Darkkishyeah11:06
Darkkishits eth111:06
Darkkishthank you so much genii!11:06
Darkkishi can't belive that worked lol11:06
genii-aroundDarkkish Well you should send the guy who wrote that page a thanks not me :)11:06
Darkkishhaha11:06
Darkkishgood idea11:06
genii-aroundmatthew We are giving them a tutorial on DVD or VHS (their choice)11:07
matthewgenii-around, VHS...rofl...11:07
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matthewgenii-around, hopefully they won't be as n00bish as Dave_11:08
matthewlol11:08
genii-aroundLOL11:08
matthewgenii-around, very nice...will you get paid extra to go help the 2500+ linux n00bs that you're inheriting?11:08
genii-aroundI have setup the machines so that we can remote ssh into their boxes if neccesary11:08
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matthewgenii-around, sounds like you've got a pretty sweet job...11:08
Darkkishcd drive is not working :(11:08
matthewDarkkish, sudo mount /dev/cdrom?11:08
Darkkishno the button on the outside is not working11:09
Darkkishi right clicked on the cd icon and clicked eject11:09
matthewDarkkish, sudo eject /dev/cdrom11:09
Darkkishand it popped right open11:09
matthewhmmm11:09
genii-aroundDarkkish sudo eject /cdrom11:09
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matthewI've had that happen to me too11:09
genii-aroundperhaps /media/cdrom or /mnt/cdrom11:09
Darkkishok the button seems to be working now11:09
matthewhappens off and on11:09
Darkkishlol11:09
genii-aroundmatthew As for extra pay for tech support on the machines... I am on (meager) salary so ne extra pay11:10
genii-aroundpar for the course11:10
matthewbummer...but are you happy?11:10
genii-aroundMore than I would be if I had to do a 9-5 type gig11:10
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genii-aroundPlus I get to play with cool toys :)11:11
Darkkishso genii would you suggest not running firefox? and just using konq instead?11:11
matthewgenii-around, and learn more about linux...11:11
genii-aroundDarkkish Either is good but I like FF11:11
Darkkishyeah me too11:11
matthewDarkkish, I know I'm not genii-around but I would recomend swiftfox...11:12
shosho#python11:12
Darkkishbut i've heard people say it doesn't run all that well on KDE (and i've kindof noticed it)11:12
matthew!python | shosho11:12
ubotupython: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.4.3-11ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 37 kB, installed size 208 kB11:12
genii-aroundmainly for the cool extensions like DownThemAll and Chatzilla, also remote bookmarks etc11:12
shoshosorry11:12
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shoshowrong type11:12
Darkkishi just use...11:12
matthewgenii-around, I like tabmixplus and gmail notifier, myself...11:12
Darkkishtab mix plus11:12
tejinderthe fonts paths are wrong in xorg.conf, is it a bug?11:13
matthewDarkkish, TMP is the way to go...11:13
Jucatokget has a download all links...11:13
Darkkishi use tab mix plus, adblock, and filterset g11:13
matthewoh yeah, and AdBlock Plus...11:13
Darkkishand IETab for when i'm building websites11:13
genii-aroundFF 2 on have some tab mix plus stuff integrated and it won't intall that extension w/out probs11:13
tejindercan anyone send me edgy xorg.conf?11:13
Darkkishmatthew do you have filterset G. updater?11:13
matthewDarkkish, don't know what you mean.11:13
Darkkishno no11:13
Darkkishadblock plus is useless without it11:14
Darkkishgo to the firefox website and get filterset g updater from the extensions11:14
Darkkishyou will LOVE it11:14
tejindercan anyone send me edgy xorg.conf?11:14
genii-aroundtejinder It's a common thing to see 3 lines when X exits about some fonts not being found etc11:14
matthewtejinder, you can try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:14
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Fuzzy76Anyone know why hcitool (bluetooth) only works for root? It makes it impossible for lusers to use bluetooth. :-/11:15
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matthewFuzzy76, you can use sudo to run programs as root11:15
Darkkishcan't you change the privilages of the files to work for non root?11:16
tejindermatthew: i have ubuntu edgy beta. if i dist-upgrade, the xorg paths will be corrected?11:16
genii-aroundtejinder They are actually there and being found in a different path .. no worries11:16
tejinderare those paths corrected in stable edgy cd?11:16
matthewDarkkish, d/l'ed it and installed...11:16
Fuzzy76but which files? the executable for hcitool IS executable for non-root11:16
Fuzzy76and sudo isn't a good solution. I don't want all users to be sudoers.11:16
Darkkishmatthew it updates your adblock with filterset G which is a global block list11:17
matthewvery cool11:17
Darkkishyou will most likely never see an advert again11:17
genii-aroundFuzzy You may need to setuid11:17
Darkkish:)11:17
matthewFuzzy76, only the user that installed the system can do sudo by default...11:17
Fuzzy76matthew: I know that. As I said, I want bluetooth to work for normal users without sudo rights.11:18
matthewFuzzy76, oh, ok...I misunderstood you...I believe that you can chmod the file to allow non-root people to execute it...11:19
Fuzzy76I'm running kubuntu, and bluetooth only works for root.11:19
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Fuzzy76[11:16]  <Fuzzy76> but which files? the executable for hcitool IS executable for non-root11:19
matthewFuzzy76, no idea...don't use bluetooth.11:19
genii-aroundHmm so setuid not the issue11:20
Fuzzy76bluetooth is just broken by default :(11:20
genii-aroundFuzzy76 do you know what /dev/device it uses?11:20
Fuzzy76I'm afraid not11:21
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genii-aroundI had a similar issue and solved it by symlinking to the actual /dev entry then using the symlink for regular users11:22
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Fuzzy76yay. :) I found the /dev/bus/usb node and changed its rights :)11:24
genii-aroundFuzzy76 I found something that may help you by editing in the /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf11:24
genii-aroundah perhaps too late :)11:24
Fuzzy76not really11:25
Fuzzy76konqeror still cant find any devices :(11:25
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genii-aroundOK the relevvant part here looks like /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf options {                          area where it needs      security user;    inserted11:26
ReTyPehow do i get surround sound ?11:26
Fuzzy76it already has security user here :s11:27
genii-aroundbleh11:27
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Fuzzy76hcid scan works now... But konqueror right click, actions, send via bluetooth doesn't find any devices. :-/11:27
genii-aroundFuzzy76 Lemme do some research and I'll get back to ya shortly11:28
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Darkkishwell genii i'd have to say mission accomplished11:28
Darkkishinternet is working great11:28
Darkkishbut its 2:30 AM here11:28
Darkkishand i'm about to fall asleep11:28
Darkkishlol11:28
Darkkishso goodnight and thanks once again11:28
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genii-aroundDarkkish Sleep well and enjoy your wireless freedom :)11:28
matthewDarkkish, where you at?11:29
genii-aroundFuzzy76 in that conf file a section like this?11:30
genii-arounddevice {11:30
genii-around  name "%h-%d"; # %d - device id, %h - host name11:30
genii-around  class 0x100;11:30
genii-around  iscan enable;11:30
genii-around  pscan enable;11:30
genii-around  lm accept;11:30
genii-around  lp hold,sniff,park;11:30
genii-around}11:30
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genii-aroundI think the relevant areas iscan enable     pscan enable      etc etc11:31
Fuzzy76yup... My file looks identical11:31
genii-aroundhmm11:31
Fuzzy76no.... my class is all weird11:31
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genii-aroundFuzzy76 That part is all system/device dependent so can be radically different11:32
genii-aroundFuzzy76 Is the device you are trying to connect to a phone by the way?11:32
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dsafdahi guys, could you help me with TTF anti-aliasing? I would try to disable the anti-aliasing only for *one* type of TTF, I have a Sans Serif as general TTF, and other TTF for menu bar, desktop items, etc, I'd like to have anti-aliasing on everything but *not* on the Sans Serif, that is perfect without anti-aliasing, could you help me?11:33
Fuzzy76yes11:33
genii-aroundFuzzy76 OK. May sound weird but try this. Insert a line "noauth" in /etc/ppp/options11:34
genii-aroundwithout the quotes11:35
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Fuzzy76well... I'm not trying to use it as a modem, I'm just trying to send files to and from11:35
Fuzzy76but i tried it11:35
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malik__how do i know that which update is coming from which repo?11:36
Fuzzy76shouldn't there be some bluetooth manager in my systray?11:37
genii-aroundFuzzy76 :( dunno, sorry11:37
malik__how do i know that which update is coming from which repo?.........plus if any one can tell how do i turn off updates for open office?11:38
Fuzzy76damn weird11:38
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Fuzzy76genii-around: I found my phone in konqueror by navigating to "remote places" (or whatever it's called, I'm running norwegian locale). :) That'll do for now. :) It's just the send-to-bluetooth right-click action that doesn't work.11:39
matthewhey genii-around do you have any idea why adept-update would give me the option to "skip package list"?11:40
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genii-aroundFuzzy76 Unfortunately I haven't had to debug much blutooth probs on linux yet... I think I'm out of ideas for this11:41
genii-aroundmatthew Perhaps because it's already cached11:41
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genii-aroundmatthew in /var/cache/apt/archives/11:42
moody_cze11:42
moody_mam sprawe11:42
genii-around!cz | moody11:42
ubotumoody: esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.11:42
moody_a polski ?11:43
matthewgenii-around, ah...ok11:43
moody_halo11:43
moody_a polski ?11:43
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genii-aroundmalik__ Well I know a roundabout way to find which things come from which repos but not an easy way11:44
genii-around!pl | moody11:44
ubotumoody: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl11:44
matthewmalik__, why do you want to know?11:44
matthewmalik__, just curious?11:44
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matthewgenii-around, yay, got a major update for OOo...11:45
toschiciao a tutti11:45
matthewciao11:45
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matthewlol, that's all the italian I nkow11:45
matthewknow11:45
genii-aroundIn each directory apt-get looks to there is a file called Packages or Packages.gz  So if you open up the file Packages   for instance in an editor it wil give detailed info about each file there11:45
malik__matthew: yes and also i dont want to download these updates day in day out measuring upto 70 to 100 mb at a time for open office..........other updates i dont mind but i dont use office that much so im just annoyed a lil11:46
matthewmalik__, ah11:46
genii-aroundtutti a capo tutti  Is about all my Italian :)11:46
genii-around!openoffice11:47
ubotua free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org11:47
genii-aroundHmm doesn't say what repo11:47
malik__i checked most of em are comin from ubuntu core n funny thing is the installed version is 2.0.4-0ubuntu3 n upgrade one is 2.0.4-ubuntu411:48
malik__what if i uninstall it with apt-get or adept or something?11:49
malik__wud it wreck my system?11:49
genii-aroundmalik__ I'm pretty sure there is a way in adept to tell it to ignore certain updates but I'm not sure of the way11:49
malik__okie genii i ll look around in settings thanx for the tip tho11:50
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genii-aroundmalik__ np11:50
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matthewgenii-around, lol, did you know that Chuck Norris can unscramble an egg?11:52
genii-aroundmatthew Why the hell would he want to???11:53
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sebbarhello everybody, what's the right place to leave a comment about an oxygen icon?11:53
matthewgenii, when Chuck Norris falls into a lake, he doesn't get wet, the water gets Chuck Norris'd11:54
matthewlol11:54
genii:)11:54
matthewgenii, have you got any?11:54
geniimatthew What, scrambled eggs?11:54
matthewgenii, Chuck Norris lost his virginity before his dad did...rofl11:54
matthewgenii, no...Chuck Norris jokes11:54
geniihah...no11:54
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geniisebbar Most likely the best place would be on one of the ubuntu forums11:55
Fuzzy76genii: Thanks for your help anyway. :) I must've fixed something somewhere... It works partially now, and I'll live with that. :)11:55
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matthewgenii, my friend would like to tell you that Chuck Norris doesn't read books; he stares them down until he gets the information that he needs.11:56
geniiFuzzy76 :)11:56
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matthewgenii, Chuck Norris doesn't go hunting, he goes killing.11:56
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matthewok...enough chuck norris jokes...lol11:57
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matthewgenii, huh?11:57
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matthewninjas?11:57
geniiChuck Norris first movie was Good Guys Wear Black11:58
matthewah11:58
matthewdidn't know that...11:58
geniiIt was the first time the stunt where he jumped up and kicked through a windshield of a car trying to run him down was done11:59
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matthewnice...Chuck Norris always did git 'er done...11:59
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matthewI like in Walker, Texas Ranger where Chuck Norris kicks 3 guys' butts, then goes over and bails out his black friend...seriously, it happens in every episode...kinda racist, no?12:00
geniiHmm Chuck Norris vs Jet Li ... cage match ... my money is on Chuckie12:00
matthewChuck Norris vs. Jackie Chan...Winner == Jackie Chan...unbelievably enough...12:01
geniiJackie Chan does some insane stunts12:01
matthewall his own...12:01
geniiWell a Texas Ranger having black friends in the first place is preposterous LOL12:02
matthewgenii, roflmao12:03
matthewliterally12:03
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geniiI need to go babysit some boxes so sorta AFK but I'll come back to checkin every few mins12:04
matthewI hate the big hick trucks tho...12:04
matthewgenii, np...it's only your job...12:04
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tomaThe installer is telling me on the page to prepare the mount points, that i've not selected a partition for the root. But i have done that. Any tips?12:05
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MHKtoma: redo the selection step?12:08
MHK=)12:08
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sebbartoma I think it's a bug, I had the same problem...solved using the installer cd. I know some other guy did the same thing, some other eventually worked around it without needing to download another cd12:09
sebbaryou're trying to keep a windows partition?12:09
tomasebbar: yes12:09
tomasebbar: / should be on /dev/hda212:10
matthewMHK, when you're making the partitions for kubuntu, make sure to label one as /12:10
matthewthat should take care of it...remember to restart the installer, though12:10
matthewotherwise it won't recognize the change...12:10
tomasebbar: if it's a bug then imho we should make another iso. Not being able to install something from an installer cd is pretty serious imho12:10
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tomamatthew: i have not altered the partition table12:11
MHKmatthew: yeah, and make sure you don't forget the swap. I damn idiot made it to small (500mb), even though my ram is about 1gb -> hybernate works not allways12:11
tomamatthew: i just selected / to be on /dev/hda212:12
matthewtoma, hmmm12:12
matthewtoma, did it work?12:12
tomano, it still states 'no root file system'12:12
rchovanhi , could someone help me with usb problem on kubuntu ?12:13
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toma"Warning, you can lost data" is a typo ;-)12:14
matthewtoma, you need to restart the installer12:14
matthewtoma, otherwise, the installer will move forward using the old data, not the new data...12:14
matthewrchovan, what's the problem?12:14
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sebbartoma: my 2 cents: if you have enough bandwidth and a spare cd, download the alternate cd and install, worked straight forward for me. It might work some other way as well though12:15
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sebbarrchovan: don't ask to ask, just ask ;-)12:15
tomamatthew: after reformatting it works12:17
sebbarok cool12:17
matthew__rchovan, what's the problem?12:17
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matthew__!ask12:17
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:17
matthew__lol12:17
tomamatthew__: so the error should have been "no root partition or partion not formatted", i will file a bug and attach a fix12:17
tomathnxs all12:17
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matthew__toma, hmmm, weird...good luck w/ that...12:18
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matthew__rchovan, what's the problem?12:19
rchovanmatthew__: hi, i can't unplug USB pen drive as user,12:19
matthew__rchovan, do you know what device your usb is? (sda, sdb1, etc...)12:19
rchovanmatthew__: yes, i have some infos for you12:21
matthew__rchovan, ok, let's hear it.12:21
rchovanmatthew__: Kubuntu 6.10, list of mount (/dev/sdc1 on /media/usbdisk type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8))12:21
geniirchovan sudo umount /dev/sdX && eject /dev/sdX    where X is the letter of the drive it sees the pen drive as12:21
matthew__rchovan, ok, you need to type in the konsole          sudo eject /dev/sdc112:22
matthew__genii, awww, you stole my kill...lol12:22
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geniisorry umount should be from the dir it is mounted to12:22
rchovanmatthew__: yes, it work with sudo, but i can't remove usb drive trought KDE icon12:22
geniieg /media/someplace12:22
matthew__genii, doesn't eject take care of umount as well?12:22
geniimatthew__ I dunno, just habit I have to use umount12:23
rchovanmatthew__:  list of umount /dev/sdc1 is umount: /dev/sdc1 is not in the fstab (and you are not root)12:23
matthew__rchovan, that might mean there is still stuff being written to it...happens to me sometimes...12:23
matthew__rchovan, sudo eject /dev/sdc112:23
rchovanmatthew__: no, because lsof /dev/sdc1 give me empty list12:23
matthew__rchovan, hmmm...ok...12:24
geniirchovan You can edit the KDE icon properties to make it run sudo12:24
matthew__rchovan, try the eject command12:24
rchovanmatthew__: i know, that it work with sudo12:24
matthew__genii, I've got a USB question while we're on the subject...12:24
geniimatthew__ Sure :)12:25
rchovanmatthew__: eject work fine with user rights12:25
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matthew__genii, cool...whenever I plug anything into my Encore Electronics USB hub, the LED dies for a while, and nothing gets recongnized. It takes a _long_ time for the drive to get recogged...sometimes it's easier to reboot, because then everything that's plugged in is recogged...any ideas?12:26
rchovanmatthew__: is there any suggestion how to unplug usb trought icon on desktop ?12:26
matthew__genii? ^12:26
geniimatthew__ For the usb hug, no idea :(12:27
matthew__great...lol, not a biggie...12:27
geniimaybe rerun hotplug from init.d12:27
matthew__ /etc/init.d/hotplug restart?12:28
rchovangenii: hi, how, or where i can edit kde icon to unplug usb drive with eject command ?12:28
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geniimatthew__ Not ure if hotplug ...but whatever it is that scans the usb bus12:28
rchovanmatthew__: thank you.. eject is better as umount :o)12:29
matthew__genii, hmmm, :         sudo: /etc/init.d/hotplug: command not found12:29
geniirchovan Normally to edit the properties of a shortcut in KDE you right-click on it then edit ... then go to where it has "application" then add sudo before the actual coomand it is running in this case to make it run with proper rights12:29
geniimatthew__ Wait while I find the right prog there to use12:30
matthew__genii, np...take as long as you want...12:30
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geniimatthew__ Weird, it should be there (hotplug) in init.d ... maybe make sure byt installing hotplug12:33
geniialso coldplug12:33
rchovangenii: sorry, bat I can't find application, i have there only general, permissions, meta informations, sharing, mount, sharing12:34
geniimatthew__Can you pastebin  in your /etc/init.d  contents?12:35
matthew__genii, hmmm, not available, but referred too...ok...pastebinning now...12:35
berkesdoes anyone know if top can show the 'disc access' of processes?12:36
matthew__genii, hmmm, can't open /etc/init.d...it's a folder...12:36
berkesI have a few procs that are not using too much CPU or mem, but they clog the HDD troughput by reading and writing a big lot of data.12:37
geniirchovan OK try poking around in those to find the line which has something like a command ... eg mount /somewhere     perhaps in mount12:37
berkesI'd like to be able to list these processes.12:37
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geniimatthew__  ls /etc/init.d/*12:37
matthew__genii, opened up init.d in konq...no hotplug nor coldplug installed12:37
matthew__genii, ok...brb12:37
genii!hotplug12:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hotplug - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:39
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geniibah12:39
matthew__http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38206/12:39
rchovangenii: is ther any chance to unplug usb drive as user without editing /etc/fstab ?12:39
matthew__genii, lol, thanks for helping again, geni12:39
berkeshmm looking at some usage patterns, I find that nspluginviewer (flash in konqueror) eats nearly 40% of all CPU measured over a day.12:39
matthew__genii12:39
berkesis that something I can weak?12:39
berkes~tweak12:39
geniimatthew__ np :) Glad to serve as always12:40
berkesnspluginviewer keeps eating CPU cycles even if I'm gone and tall other processes go to sleep.12:41
berkes:)12:41
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geniiberkes perhaps create a ramdisk then mount it under /tmp or wherever it's using for a scratchdisk maybe /var/tmp or similar then it will cut down on hdd usage plus be empited always when the machine turns off12:42
pradeepto!mp312:42
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:42
matthew__genii, apt-get plain old can't find package coldplug12:42
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matthew__genii, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38206/ (just in case you didn't see it...)12:42
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geniimatthew__ Hmm perhaps there is another name/parent prog for it in ubuntu as opposed to usual debian distro ...lemme research12:43
matthew__bummer...ok...12:43
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ayeizajedi!network12:45
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:45
geniimatthew__ Since udev does the autodetect for stuff during boot, it may work to immediately detect a hardware change. You could try it12:45
ayeizajedihow do you configure your network card in kubuntu ?12:45
matthew__genii, sudo /etc/init.d/udev restart ?12:46
matthew__ayeizajedi, what's the problem?12:47
geniimatthew__ most likely but try without restart first so it will tell you the viable commands12:47
matthew__viable commands : start|stop|restart|reload|force-reload12:47
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geniiyeah so restart12:47
rchovangenii: i have another problem with my usb disk, when i go to disk trought konqueror, i can unplug it with command eject /media/usbdisk, .. but when i go to disk with krusader, and then i want unplug usb, i can't unplug it12:48
berkesgenii: nah, acc. to 'free' memory is not an issue. The problem is tools that backup and rotate logs and the likes.12:48
geniimaybe reload is safer first actually12:48
matthew__ayeizajedi, you can go into the Kmenu->System Settings-> Network Settings...12:48
matthew__genii, reload it is12:48
berkesoh, and some downloads/uploads of large files.12:48
geniiberkes You could always tweak the cronjobs12:48
matthew__genii, nothing...gonna try restart...12:48
berkesits just that ATM the disk troughput is the bottleneck.12:48
berkesall I need is a way to list the processes that cause the disk acces.12:49
matthew__berkes, you might be interested in striped/mirrored RAIDs12:49
berkesgenii: yea, sure, tweak the cronjobs. Thats what I am doing ;12:49
berkes:)12:49
geniiberkes the command lsof   will always tell you what files are open12:49
berkesmatthew__: no, I am not intersted in alternative solutions.12:49
matthew__berkes, ok.12:49
berkes*all* I am looking for is a way to TOP the troughput!12:50
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berkes:)12:50
geniiberkes What interface does your HD use?12:50
berkesmatthew__: thanks for the idea though, but I already run a raid 1, backup RAID, and changing that is out of the question.12:50
geniieg: sata, scsi, ide usb etc12:50
matthew__genii, I get the message " * Loading additional hardware drivers...           [ok] ", lsusb still freezes...12:50
matthew__berkes, gotcha...12:50
berkesgenii: afaik sata12:50
matthew__berkes, wow...sata is pretty much fastest...except...what? esata?12:51
berkesthis is for several different systems though; two servers running on RAID1 (sata) and my desktop, running with a normal IDE.12:51
geniiberkes OK... if IDE the speed can be set by passing stuff like IDE=133 or whatever to max the thoroput etc...sata I dunno if it has those options.12:52
berkesmatthew__: yea, thing is, on the servers data troughput is our biggest bottleneck, but so far I cannot find any tool to top that.12:52
matthew__berkes, hmmm, tough problem...12:52
berkesI mean, top can be configured very well, it can show gazillions of parameters, yet I cannot find a way to look at disk access12:52
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geniiberkes Well, just to see WHAT is using the disk you can use simply something like lsof /dev/sdX   ... but of course it won't show you the speed etc only what is using the drive12:55
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berkesgenii: yea, i do use lsof an pipe it trough grep, but that, as you mention, show only what uses the disk. Not how ofte and how much.12:56
berkesbut well, wrt disk its "either it is accessed, or its not" speed etc is all a matter of hightech hardware monitorin.12:56
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Shan`ok.. i have 2 big issues here12:57
Shan`anyone12:57
Shan`here?12:57
geniiberkes I imagine logging is the main culprit12:57
Shan`make that three12:57
berkesI guess I'd need to hack some script together that collects data from lsof and puts that in some DB, to calculate averages etc from it.12:57
geniiberkes How much do you need your logs?12:57
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berkesgenii: well, its mostly the logrotates that cause problems.12:58
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Shan`1. My Live cd detects my Monitor and its settings but the Ubuntu install fails to detect the monitor (changed from CRT to LCD)12:58
matthew__Shan`, h/o12:58
Shan`h/o?12:58
berkesgenii: at the moments of the rotates, a spike in e.g. database/mysql access can cause stuff to get really slooow.12:59
matthew__Shan`, hold on12:59
Shan`lol ok12:59
Shan`*holds on*12:59
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berkessame goes for backups. When a backup is being made, no matter how 'nice' It is forced, the disc access slows doen the complete server12:59
matthew__Shan`, you need to go to the Kmenu->System Settings->Monitor and Display12:59
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geniiberkes Because you could do some trick like mount a ramdisk to /var/log then have a real dir like /var/actual. Then occasionally grep the ramdisk for errors and direct them to the actual dir12:59
Shan`matthew__, i cant do that.. monitor wont work. . so i have to use command line01:00
matthew__Shan`, oh.01:00
Shan`matthew__, more like XServer wont work01:00
matthew__Shan`, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:00
geniiberkes Ah....you are logging to a sql01:00
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geniiberkes Also for backups... are you using rsync or another way like nfs etc01:01
Shan`thanx matthew__01:01
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Shan`should i move onto the 2nd?01:01
matthew__Shan`, np01:01
matthew__Shan`, the second what?01:01
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Shan`i have a sata hdd here.. i want to mount that01:01
Shan`problem01:02
Shan`lol01:02
matthew__Shan`, ah...ok, go for it...although i don't know how much help I'll be...01:02
Shan`how do i mount my sata drive?01:02
matthew__Shan`, I assume you've done sudo mount /dev/device ?01:02
matthew__or at least tried01:02
Shan`sort of01:02
matthew__genii, is there a special device type for sata hard drives?01:02
Shan`i didnt know what to put in place of "device"01:03
matthew__Shan`, is it a slave?01:03
matthew__Shan`, try /dev/hdb101:03
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geniimatthew__ Depending on system. Normally mounted as scsi (sdX) but on systems where bios "fakes" the sata as IDE it is usual hdX01:03
Shan`mathias__, i think i got it its sda01:04
matthew__genii, thanks...01:04
matthew__Shan`, you got that?01:04
matthew__cool01:04
matthew__Shan`, so...does sda work?01:04
Shan`matthew__, yeah01:04
Shan`:)01:04
Shan`should I move onto the 3rd?01:05
matthew__Shan`, very cool. any more?01:05
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Shan`hehe yes01:05
matthew__Shan`, yes, please01:05
Shan`1 more01:05
matthew__lol01:05
Shan`well..01:05
matthew__lol, Shan` it's 4 in the morning here...lol01:05
matthew__so...your question?01:05
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Shan`i installed my XP.. then installed Ubuntu Breezy Badger.. now.. when i try to boot into windows using Grub.. it gives me error 12 (Unknown FileSystem"01:05
Shan`4 whoa!01:06
Shan`answer me and sleep!!!01:06
Shan`lol01:06
matthew__Shan`, lol...ummm, lemme look into it...k?01:06
Shan`k01:06
Shan`hehe01:06
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Shan`i have to do a fixmbr thru the windows recovery console to boot into it but then i loose grub and have to setup grub again using the live cd to boot into Kubuntu01:07
geniiShan are you familiar with using command-line?01:07
matthew__Shan`, "Invalid device requested"?01:07
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Shan`yeah genii01:07
matthew__Shan`, http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/grub-error-guide.xml?style=printable01:07
Shan`yeah matthew__ something like that01:07
matthew__lol genii back off...it's my kill...arrrrr!01:08
matthew__rofl...I need sleep...lol01:08
Shan`lol01:08
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geniimatthew__ LOL OK I'll be a casual observer01:08
matthew__Shan`, I just laughed uncontrollably...this better be your last problem...ok...do you see the solution on the page?01:08
geniilike the UN of #kubuntu01:08
matthew__genii, nice01:08
matthew__genii, remember, you have to act concerned, but really do nothing.01:09
Shan`matthew__, yeah i do see it.. but i already did that.. thats how i setup grub using the live cd.. root (hd0,2) and setup (hd0)01:09
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matthew__genii, ok, you can c'mon back...what do you make of it?01:10
geniiI'd like to see a pastebin of his /etc/grub01:10
Shan`wokay01:10
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geniiXP should be last entry doing chainload etc01:10
Shan`genii, you mean menu.list?01:10
matthew__yep01:10
Shan`genii, it has all that.. i checked it.. (cant pastebin that right now cos that hdd is disconnected to make room for the sata drive)01:11
matthew__genii, lol, that's what I'm good at...saying "yep" and "I'm out of ideas...sorry!"01:11
Shan`haha01:11
geniiShan Sorry yeah menu :)01:11
Shan`but you did sort 2 problems matthew__ .. altho need to see if the 1st one does get solved or not01:11
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matthew__awww01:12
Shan`genii, it has all that.. i checked it.. (cant pastebin that right now cos that hdd is disconnected to make room for the sata drive)01:12
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geniiShan OK.. it would be important to check exactly the lines tho if possible01:13
Shan`hmm.. i could come back on in like 20-25 minutes after i'm done copying some data on the sata01:13
geniieg:01:14
geniititle Windows XP01:14
geniirootnoverify (hd0,0)01:14
geniichainloader +101:14
geniiOr similar01:14
geniiShan I'll be here :)01:14
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Shan`sweet01:14
Shan`bbl then01:14
Shan`:)01:14
matthew__Shan`, I'll probably be in bed...but you never know...01:14
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matthew__lol, Shan` is moving his pr0n collection...j/k01:15
geniiheh01:15
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geniiOK while it's quiet i need to take a break for bathroom/coffee run/newspaper pickup etc :) be back ~10 mins01:16
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matthew__run, genii , run!01:16
geniibah!01:16
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geniiLOL01:17
Shan`lol01:17
geniiOK changing nick til I return01:17
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genii-awayBack in a bit01:17
Shan`very organized chap01:17
Shan`matthew__, whats the command to find the disk size and free space of a mounted drive?>01:18
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ayeizajediexcuse me for being a complete n00b but how does one perform a software update on kubuntu ?01:18
matthew__lemme look...I think it's dh...01:19
wizkodermoin01:19
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matthew__ayeizajedi, sudo apt-get update01:19
Shan`ayeizajedi, sudo apt-get update01:19
Shan`damn01:19
Shan`!01:19
ayeizajedilol01:19
ayeizajedicheers all01:19
matthew__df -h01:19
Shan`but that works if he has all the repositories enabled01:19
Shan`thanx01:19
matthew__Shan`, df -h01:19
Shan`kk01:19
matthew__no prob...surprised I remembered it in my state....lol01:19
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Shan`hehe01:20
ayeizajedi!ati01:21
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ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:21
ayeizajedijust out of curiousity, is anyone having any major problems with ati 3d support with the binary drivers ?01:21
wizkoderIs it safe to upgrade to feisty right now? Am using edgy01:21
wizkoderI mean by replacing the repos and then apt-upgrade01:22
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Shan`ayeizajedi, depends what application01:22
Shan`ayeizajedi, i had to install the ati drivers for runing Unreal01:23
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Shan`the binaries that come with the install dont quite do it01:23
ayeizajedimainly Shan` im trying to get 3D support for my X1400 mobility.  on SuSE it just doesnt work period, i was just wondering if it was an issue in ubuntu/kubuntu01:23
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Shan`hmm01:24
Shan`ayeizajedi, try the latest drivers from ATI01:25
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genii-awayBack :)01:25
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ayeizajediyeah Shan, think im going to do that tonight when i get a chance to check it all :)01:25
jordo23Are there special soundblaster audigy drivers for Kubuntu?01:25
Shan`wb genii01:26
Shan`i think i gelped someone01:26
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Shan`ecstatic even01:26
Shan`g=h01:26
matthew__Shan`, good job gelping someone...lol...it's a nice feeling, isn't it?01:26
Jucatogelped?? sounds GNOME-ish... :P01:26
geniiheh01:26
Shan`lol01:26
matthew__lol01:26
Shan`sure feels good01:26
Shan`now all i need is a job01:26
Shan`lol01:26
Shan`should i try for that here?01:27
jordo23Does anyone here have a soundblaster?01:27
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matthew__qsn?01:27
jordo23Anyone?01:27
matthew__jordo23, no sir.01:27
jordo23How do you install drivers for an Audigy 2sz01:27
jordo23zs01:27
matthew__alright, going to bed now...g'night everyone...01:27
geniijordo23 emu10k1 is the driver you want01:27
matthew__or...good morning?01:28
jordo23genii: Is that the package name?01:28
geniimatthew__ gnite and seeya later likely :)01:28
Shan`night matthew__ thank you once again01:28
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matthew__genii, very likely....np, Shan` ttyal01:28
geniijordo23 No, that is the name of the module which the audigy uses01:28
jordo23genii: How do i install it?01:28
thePuckI got a problem in kde where I launch an app and it just hangs there for a while then the indicator disappears...doesn't happen every time I launch something, but an awful lot...anyone heard of this or got a solution?01:29
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geniijordo23 if on command line typing   sudo lsmod|grep emu10k1   produces a result it is already installed. If not then typing    modprobe emu10k1    should insert it manually.01:29
geniijordo23 If it is not being automatically installed there is likely some underlying issue. However, if you add it with modprobe then it works, you can force it to load every time by adding that name to the file /etc/modules01:31
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Shan`thePuck, did you use kde in root mode recently?01:31
Shan`or as root01:31
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Shan`thePuck, try launching the application in Konsole and show is what it says thru pastebin01:32
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Shan`is=us01:32
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Shan`lol01:32
geniiShan` Heh :)01:32
geniiI dunno, we are almost always winging it here anyhow LOL01:33
thePucktried that, it just hangs01:33
Shan`haha01:33
jordo23genii: Is there a way to configure the card?01:33
Shan`thePuck, it hangs is fine but at what point? what does the konsole say?01:33
thePucknothing...the ones that dissapear just hang in the console and the ones that eventually open are normal01:34
thePuckI already got rid of the errors from the wacom stuff in xorg.conf01:34
geniijordo23 2 ways: easy is in the control panel from inside KDE.. you can do it this way IF the module is installed and works ok. The other is to force parameters to it in the /etc/modules  file01:35
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Shan`brb01:36
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jordo23genii: Do you configure this under Sound System, or somewhere else in KDE.....I am trying to hear sound out of my fourth and fifth speaker.. I am trying to configure the speakers like in the windows driver...01:36
geniijordo Sound System is correct01:37
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mefisto__I want to install xubuntu on an old pc with just 64mb ram, and it already has kubuntu installed. Can I just install xubuntu-desktop from adept, or is there some advantage in reinstalling from a xubuntu cd?01:37
geniijordo23 Also from the speaker icon on bottom right of main screen you can set some stuff like in Windoze01:37
jordo23genii: I don't see any options to control the card though....I am in the Control Centers Sound System Display...01:38
geniijordo23 Generally that area is to select ALSA or OSS as the main system but it occasionally has other things like what mixer etc01:38
jordo23genii: Which sound system should it be set too?  What's the difference...01:39
geniijordo23 Bear with me I am on a work machine running win2000 so i can't investigate where to find things in KDE :)01:39
jordo23Genii: sorry....thanks...01:39
geniijordo23 Most times ALSA is the best choice01:40
jordo23How do you configure ALSA?01:40
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geniijordo23 Thats beyond what I normally would know offhand :)01:40
geniijordo23 Mainly the problemmatic things with ALSA are the mixer however01:41
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geniijordo23 And there are many help avenues available on the ubuntuforums.org  site01:41
mefisto__jordo23: I have always left things as autodetect (in the sound & multimedia section, hardware tab) and never had any problems.01:42
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geniijordo23 I suspect to enable something like additional speakers in this case you would need to access the extended controls by way of the speaker icon in main screen and look at mixer settings01:43
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geniiShan` Still around?01:44
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jordo23Genii: How do you get to the mixer if it's not on your taskbar?01:44
jordo23Kmix?01:45
geniijordo23 Try right-click on speaker icon like in Windoze01:45
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geniiIt may be Kmix01:46
dennis__how to install rp-pppoe gui01:46
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JucatoK Menu -> Sound & Multimedia -> Kmix01:46
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geniidennis__ There isn't one01:47
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daecucan someone tell me how to install gnome on kubuntu?01:48
geniidennis__ However wait a moment and I'll help you01:49
geniiwith another method01:49
LBBdaecu you can just use adept01:49
daecuLBB: and the name of the package is?01:49
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abattoirdaecu: ubuntu-desktop01:50
geniidennis__ Find the rp-pppoe section on this page and it will show you a way to make it accessible from KDE http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Broadband_ADSL.2FPPPoE_Client_.28RP-PPPoE.2901:50
LBBisn't it under gnome?01:50
daecugot it, called 'gnome' :P01:50
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daecuoh and does anyone know how to kill add/remove? I chose j2re1.4 and its stuck at the license agreement, I can't do anything01:51
jordo23genii: Got it....thanks...01:52
daecuthing is, i dunno whether it would mess it up01:52
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geniijordo23 Cool :) Glad to help01:52
abattoirdaecu: close adept and run 'sudo dpkg-configure -a' in a terminal01:52
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daecuok, I will when it's finished installing gnome...01:53
abattoirdaecu: wait that was not right01:53
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endo602Hello Everyone.  How come when I try to save files from the Internet... it opens KATE instead of downloading to hdd?01:53
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geniiOK time to ask about my particular prob: Anyone know a way chroot /target , restart networking then execute a series of command on a machine that has been netbooted?01:54
Jucatodaecu: that error has nothing to do with Java actually...01:54
geniipreferably with sshd01:54
abattoirdaecu: adept can't handle interactivity in a terminal, so it's not java's fault01:54
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abattoiroh Jucato's here01:54
abattoircool :)01:54
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daecuabattoir: I know.. it's just annoying01:55
endo602can anyone help me with my problem?01:57
mefisto__endo602: what browser?01:57
endo602konqueror01:57
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geniiendo602 Maybe right-click then select Save Link or equivelent instead. Right now it's trying to use whatever app it figures is suitable to activate the link01:57
endo602the problem is that i cant with this link01:58
endo602its .php01:58
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justin_How do you install a KDE theme?01:58
daecuwhy is it removing my xfce stuff when installing gnome?!01:58
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Jucatojustin_: what kind of theme?01:58
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justin_Jucato, Umm a style theme01:59
daecujustin: give a link to where you got it02:00
Jucatojustin_: you need to compile it. or if a .deb package is available, just install it02:00
justin_wow02:00
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justin_Gnome is a lot easier when it comes to themes I see02:01
justin_:P02:01
daecuso is xfce :(02:01
Jucatojustin_: in GNOME, you don't drag-and-drop widget styles.02:01
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justin_color scheme - kicker - background etc02:01
Jucatowhat you are adding are actually just color schemes for the installed widget style (GTK or clearlooks)02:01
justin_That is within the directory - but there are no "c" or "o" files to compile at all..02:02
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Jucatojustin_: it's not a style theme, then. it's a KDE theme02:02
justin_Jucato, yes02:03
justin_ok so how do I install a KDE theme? :D02:03
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Jucato(you said it was a style theme...)02:03
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geniiendo602 Try this please: Right-click on any lnk with .php extension. You should be able to set what app to use to open it.02:03
BluesKajHowdy all! :)02:03
Jucatojustin_: press Alt+F2, type in "kcontrol", then follow this guide: http://docs.kde.org/userguide/kde-theme.html02:03
justin_Jucato, Thanks - I was looking for some docs :)02:04
mefisto__endo602: try this: in konq, go to settings > configure konqueror. Then in the file associations section, select text, then plain, and in the "embedding" tab tick "ask whether to save to disk instead"02:04
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endo602mefisto__,  thanks02:05
geniimefisto__ Good solution :)02:06
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mefisto__hope it works ;)02:07
geniiInteresting that it thinks php files are something to edit02:08
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LBBHi everybody!02:10
LBBMy PC doesn't boot into grub, it only gets to "loading grub stage1.5"02:11
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daecuI got a screenshot of the problem: http://www.collateraldesign.co.uk/screenshot.png02:13
geniiLBB are you doing something like changing which drive to boot from in bios?02:13
LBBthere is nothing changed to my menu.lst, and and qtparted and sfdisk give me different buth both incorrect views of my partitiontable02:13
daecuanyone know how to resolve that?02:13
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LBBgenii: not that I know02:14
Onirimhi all :)02:14
daecusigh02:14
daecuso i take it you just don't install via that?02:14
geniiLBB OK :)02:14
LBBgenii: would it boot grub stage 1 if i did?02:15
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geniiLBB Likely not02:16
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LBBhow do i use pastebin, i'll post the info from sfdisk -l -V02:17
daecuanyone know the name of the process of add/remove applications?02:17
LBBdaeco you mean remove running apps02:17
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geniiLBB But oftimes these issues are caused by something like 1 HD has windoze 1 HD has linux then ppl swap what drive to boot from bios but they install to the linux drive when the other is selected as bott in bios etc etc02:17
daecuwell i'm going to kill the process in taskmanager...02:18
daecusince as i cant end it any other way02:18
LBBgenii: I only have one drive02:18
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geniiLBB I suspect that your bios is seeing the drive in a particular way eg: Large or LBA   that is different than how it was detected previously when the OS was put02:20
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BluesKaj!pastebin02:22
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)02:22
LBBgeni: sorry unclear; I didn't put on a new os, i ugraded the kernel and removed apache cause i did,'t think i needed it02:22
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geniiLBB Ah, OK. You may need to re-run the grub install somehow then to account for possible kernel version/module version conflicts02:24
LBBgenii: i tried rerunning grub-install bu that gave an error aswell (i'll tetry and paste it)02:25
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geniiLBB OK put it in pastebin and I'll look02:25
LBBhere is my sfdisk paste http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38216/plain/02:26
LBBnow I'll go and refind the command to install02:26
geniiLBB which OS you have on hda2 ??02:27
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LBBgenii:hda2 wa boot on ext2, go figure...02:29
geniiThats an extremely messed up sfdisk report :(02:29
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geniiPArtition table looks to be screwy02:32
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LBBgenii so how do i fix that?02:32
geniiIs it booting to XP ok?02:33
genii(or whatevers on hda1)02:33
LBBno, i don't know how without a working grub02:33
geniiLBB OK lemme think for a minute02:34
mefisto__I can't sudo. when I do it says sudoers file: syntax error02:34
LBBgenii I guess my partition table explains why i can't install grub...02:35
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geniiYp02:36
geniiYup02:36
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geniiLBB OK... Do you have your XP cdrom?02:36
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LBBi think i have it somewhere02:37
LBBgenii but I'd rather solve this and learn something about linux along the way02:38
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geniiLBB The basic idea here: Boot to rescue/utility/repair on CD. Do FIXMBR. Then see if you can at least boot into XP to begin with. Then onto grub02:38
LBBgenii: is there no way I can solve this through the power of linux? :)02:39
geniiLBB There is a good idea of what I mean at http://josephhall.org/grub_install_hda1.html02:40
geniiBut it has to do with Win98 so you cannot use that method for replacing the mbr. For 2K/XP you need to do the CD booting deal to repair the mbr02:40
LBBgenii i have gparted an kubuntu live cd's02:40
geniiLBB Do you care if your linux has to get reinstalled?02:41
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LBBgenii: do you have a link that explains why i need the xp-cd?02:42
LBBgenii well that would be the easy way02:42
LBBI'm trying to learn something while solving the problem02:42
DarkWizdomgood approach ;) painful though heheh02:43
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geniiLBB The reason you need the cd is because the nt loader cannot all fit on a floppy, hence the only way to boot into XP/2K etc is to use some media which can hold the boot files etc. And on the cd are utilities which can help repair the mbr to restore at least to let it boot into whatever XP it sees02:44
LBBDarkWizdom: i figure next time this knowladge will save my ass, so...02:44
LBBgenii I thought the mbr only contained grub, so no MS data?02:45
DarkWizdomit would be helpful if you showed what rerunning grub setup error is02:45
Sharketorhello02:45
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SharketorIs there driver for epson dx4000?02:46
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xenolhow can i create shorcut to my home on desktop?02:47
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LBBDarkWizdom: I'll go and fetch it02:47
geniiLBB Since grub is currently bad/misconfigured/not working we need to get it to a state where the partition info has been at least partially reconstructed. Running the XP fixmbr deal will make the table at least a bit comprehensible and also likely resore your ability to boot your XP. Then the partition table will have after the first one it sees with ntfs and the rest unknow02:47
Jucatoxenol: right-click on the desktop -> Create New -> Link to Application or Link to location (URL)02:47
Sharketorxenol: ln -s source destination02:48
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DarkWizdomgenii don't you think that that might mess up linux installation completely? I'm not sure, just a suggestion :)02:48
geniiDarkWizdom That is why I asked earlier if he cared whether he needed to reinstall linux if neccessary :)02:49
xenoljucato it creates some desktop conf file is it possible to have icon on it?02:49
DarkWizdomI see :D02:49
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Jucatoxenol: yes. right-click on it -> Properties -> click on the icon box02:50
geniiLBB I am thinking of something which just occured to me from your pastebin, which is that hda2 seems set bootable/active but perhaps hda1 requires this instead if grub was originally installed to the master table02:51
LBBgenii: I'd really rather not reinstall, both since it took quite some time to finetune and I'm trying to be independant of MS (my housemates want it on there)02:51
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geniiLBB When you redid grub did you do it to hda1 hda2 or just hda  ?02:52
DarkWizdomgot the error LBB?02:52
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LBBgenii: I tried hda202:53
LBBI'll go and get the error02:53
geniigrub-install /dev/hda2 would explain why it shows Amoeba as the partition type02:53
geniithe partition type table was overwritten by grub mbr02:54
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geniiLBB as a fast experiment that won't do much more harm than has already happened I would do a grub-install /dev/hda        then set hda1 active and see if it will at least get further along than now02:56
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LBBubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/tempboot /dev/hda02:57
LBBThe file /mnt/tempboot/boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.02:57
LBBtempboot is hda202:58
geniiLBB OK lemme think for a bit02:59
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LBBgenii: just read your amoaba remark, but don't fully get it02:59
geniiLBB You are on a livecd?03:00
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LBBgenii yes03:01
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geniiLBB re Amoeba etc - When you have a partition, at the beginning of where it starts certain info is kept regarding what filesystem it uses and so on. If you overwrite for instance somehow the bytes which represent the partition-type, it alters what fs it believes is on that partition03:03
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geniiLBB ok so don't bother mounting any of hda partitions, /dev should have hda hdb etc etc03:03
geniiLBB just grub-install /dev/hda03:04
geniisudo of course :)03:04
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LBBgenii: so grub should always be ond hdX103:05
LBBubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/hda03:05
LBBProbing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.03:05
LBBCould not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.03:05
geniibleh03:06
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DarkWizdomhmm03:08
geniiOK so try like before eg:sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/tempboot /dev/hda103:08
geniiYou are mounting hda2 no probs apparently03:09
LBBgenii:The file /mnt/tempboot/boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.03:09
LBBgenii what do you mean mounting hda2?03:10
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geniiLBB OK lemme think some more :)03:10
geniiLBB before you put "--root-directory" switch you had something like     mount -t ext2 /dev/hda2 /mnt/tempboot      yes?03:11
geniiand able to ls stuff inside /mnt/tempboot?03:12
LBByes03:12
LBBand yes03:12
geniiOK umount anything mounted hda then do fsck on hda203:13
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DarkWizdomjust wanted to say that :D03:13
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geniiDarkWizdom :)03:13
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LBBgenii what do you mean by "umount anything mounted hda"03:14
geniiLBB eg: umount /mnt/tempboot03:14
geniiLBB then mount|grep hda        should produce no result03:14
geniiYou cannot file system check a mounted drive easily :)03:15
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geniiIt may give some complaints about magic block numbers etc03:16
LBBok, so now :"fsck /dev/hda2" ?03:16
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geniiLBB Yes03:16
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geniiLBB If it keeps needing you to manually confirm stuff over and over let me know ASAP03:17
LBBgenii: /boot: clean, 47/44176 files, 20724/88357 blocks03:17
Chrissiehi all03:18
geniiLBB OK so looks like stage1 file somehow is messedup03:18
BluesKajhi Chrissie03:18
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geniiLBB gimme a minute03:18
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dropslhi03:19
shenmueI can receive a mail from system with subject like "Debian security status of $HOSTNAME" sometimes03:19
Chrissiehi, can you tell me how to get a karamba applet to start at start-up of the machine?03:19
shenmuecould anybody tell me which daemon sent this mail?03:20
geniiLBB OK, fdisk/whatever /dev/hda2 and change the partition type to linux. Do you know how to do this?03:20
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dropslon my laptop i have kubuntu 6.10 installed. the laptop has a dvd-drive with 8x read speed support. but when i copy files from dvd to my harddisk the whole system gets slow and the maximum copy-speed is 1.1mb.... how can i change this? thanks for your help03:21
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geniiLBB Then inside fdisk  use "w" command to write the change03:22
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LBBgenii "fdisk/whatever /dev/hda2 and change the partition type to linux" is just a bit to fast, i can man it ofcourde03:23
jeff_hello03:23
geniiLBB I'll walk you tthru it then :)03:23
geniiLBB OK... type in:   fdisk /dev/hda03:24
geniiLBB Now should be inside fdisk where it says something like "hit m for help"03:24
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LBBgenii yes but also "The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 39704."03:25
geniiLBB Thats fine03:25
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geniiLBB Now type "p" to get a list of the partitions03:26
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LBBshould i pastebin?03:26
geniinope03:26
LBBok03:27
geniiLBB Just make sure fdisk sees hda2 as bootable andas Amoeba type03:27
geniiLBB Is like that?03:27
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LBByes, but also Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary03:28
geniiLBB Thats fine03:28
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Chrissiedamn, there's some serious computing going on. i'll come back some other time with my karamba question. good luck to LBB!!03:28
geniiLBB Now type "t"03:28
LBBnumber03:28
geniiChrissie :)03:28
geniiLBB Number is 2 of course :)03:28
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runpainGod day all03:29
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geniiLBB I always forget at this point whic partition type is linux and use the key it says to list them all03:30
mefisto__amen runpain03:30
luhhi03:30
runpainHad to stay Home today With wife to help her she has broken foot03:30
luhwhich package do i need for german spellchecking in openoffice?03:30
runpainwaiting for nurses to show O_o03:30
geniiLBB perhaps it is 8f but do the key for the list to make sure03:30
runpainbe rite back03:31
runpaino installing ubuntu CE03:31
LBBgenii don't see ext2 on there03:31
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geniiLBB That is fine. We do not need to put FS type only OS right now, eg: linux....which I just looked up and it is partition type 8303:32
mefisto__luh: there is a wizard in openoffice to install dictionaries. File > Wizards > install new dictionaries03:32
neko_When using the "detailed list view", in konqueror, and selecting an image, then changing directory with the up arrow thing, it goes back to an icon view. I have saved the "view profiles". Any ideas?03:32
geniiLBB So put type 8303:32
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runpaini already made her breakfast and now i am making mine too03:33
LBBginii: done03:33
geniiLBB Good :) Now put "w" to finish up03:33
runpainOOO what a beuitful day the Lord has made03:34
mefisto__neko_: I've been struggling with this for a while. I can tell you what I did, but it doesn't always work.03:34
LBBRe-reading the partition table failed with error 16: Device or resource busy.03:34
momalmy computer wont eject the cdrom tray... eject /dev/cdrom says device is busy how do I make it un busy without rebooting.. I can't umount it either says its busy and nothingis up using it.03:34
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LBBmomal: see if you have any files or dir's open on it03:35
geniiLBB That usually means it is still mounted someplace. Did you make sure to do umount /mnt/tempboot    or whatever so not using the drive we are trying to alter?03:35
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momalugh i see.. seemsthere was a konquer window running with it open but it wasn't showing in task bar >_<03:35
LBByea, and i also did the grep-check03:36
runpainit loks like the installatio is going well so far 5:44 remaining03:36
LBBgenii:mount|grep hda give nothing03:37
geniiLBB OK, good. It may have actually done the alteration but it sometimes takes a reboot before it will report the changes correctly.03:37
mefisto__neko_: in konq, right-click a folder and choose properties from the menu. Then click the spanner button to edit what folders will do in kde. Go to the "Embedding" tab and move Multicolumn view to the top of the list.03:37
geniiLBB So it took you out of fdisk then. OK, do again fdisk /dev/hda      then do "p"    to see if shows it now for hda2 as linux partition and not Amoeba03:38
neko_mefisto__: Ok, i'll try it. I'm probably just gonn go back to dapper then tho. ;)03:38
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mefisto__neko_: I did that in dapper. Did it not have the same prob for you in dapper?03:39
LBBgenii:yep03:39
neko_Damn, dapper too. x_x03:39
geniiLBB OK. Are you still in fdisk?03:39
LBByes03:40
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geniiLBB Because we can now set hda1 to be bootable03:40
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cdrhi03:40
geniiLBB But for now I think we should try to reboot as is and see if grub progresses or not03:41
neko_mefisto__: That works good thanks.03:41
runpaini tried ichthux last nite and it would hang at the login i would login and it would recycle back to login so now i try Ubuntu CE03:41
runpain1:15 left03:41
geniiLBB So "q" to quit fdisk then of course testing time03:41
LBBbut first type a enter 1 right?03:41
runpain:0403:41
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runpain:3203:42
geniiLBB Well since you are there now, OK, do it :)03:42
LBBgenii: to make hda1 bootable?03:42
runpainX_X03:42
runpain:0403:42
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LBBgenii: ok see you in a bit03:42
runpainrunning ****03:42
geniiLBB OK I'll be here03:42
DarkWizdomemm, sorry to intervein, but why are you making hda1 bootable? shouldn't that be hda2? :)03:43
DaSkreechCan I grep for only a full word?03:43
DaSkreechlike grep a file03:43
DaSkreechand it won't return aardvark ?03:43
Jucatogrep "\bword" I think? not really sure03:44
geniiDaSkreech No grep returns partials as well03:44
geniiAh OK misunderstood question LOL03:44
runpainconfig system locals03:44
runpain80%03:44
runpain82%03:45
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runpainscanning mirror03:45
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DaSkreechJucato: do the \bword with a03:45
DaSkreechJucato: Is it grep \ba ?03:45
JucatoI think so03:45
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runpaindownloading package list03:46
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wbadgerhello people, can someone please tell me what ubuntu<number> means in package names?03:46
runpainsetting up clock03:46
runpain86%03:46
Jucatowbadger: might want to ask in #ubuntu-motu as they're the guys responsible for packages03:46
wbadgerJucato, thanks03:47
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geniiDaSkreetch from man grep:03:47
genii--word-regexp03:47
genii     (GNU Extension)03:47
genii     Select only those lines containing matches that form whole words.03:47
genii     The test is that the matching substring must either be at the03:47
genii     beginning of the line, or preceded by a non-word constituent03:47
genii     character.  Similarly, it must be either at the end of the line or03:47
genii     followed by a non-word constituent character.  Word-constituent03:47
genii     characters are letters, digits, and the underscore.03:47
Jucato!pastebin | genii03:47
ubotugenii: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)03:47
Jucato:)03:47
geniiJucato Yeah I know :)03:48
JucatoI know that you know. which makes it all the more sweeter to pipe it to you :P03:48
geniiNotice it wasn't tagged as a flood03:48
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geniiOK I need coffee ... if LBB returns please let him know I'm returning :)03:50
DaSkreechgenii: ah yes thanks03:50
DaSkreechIt slightly eases the problem :)03:50
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neko_How to change zip file association with konqueror? I remember once I deleted some files to do this, but can't find the site again.03:51
RoKFiTi just installed and my monitor goes haywire at login03:51
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ubuntu_hejus!03:52
RoKFiTcan anyone help03:52
RoKFiTjucato03:52
RoKFiTintelikey03:52
RoKFiTanyone03:52
JucatoRoKFiT: what kind of haywire?03:53
DaSkreechRoKFiT: Do you have a live CD?03:53
RoKFiTlike my display is like 5 in one03:53
murchadh_bhabaRoKFiT, Try ctrl^alt^+/- on the numeric keypad. Try turning on/off numlock also. Seems to be too high a refresh rate.03:53
runpaincrap installer crashed03:53
Jucatoneko_: in Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> File Associations03:53
DaSkreechubuntu_: Hey!03:53
BluesKajwbadger, the hirgher the number the more recent the the release is03:53
ubuntu_DaSkreech : hej03:54
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RoKFiTwhat does numlock do?03:54
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runpainwhy03:54
JucatoRoKFiT: go to the command line (press Ctrl+Alt+F1), stop KDM (sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop), reconfigure X (sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg) and then restart X (sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start) ?03:54
ubuntu_how to change the nick?03:54
Jucatoubuntu_: /nick <nickname>03:55
ubuntu_thanks jucato03:55
murchadh_bhabaRoKFiT, Sorry, I'm just unsure whether it should be on or off  for this to work? And I'm on a DSL-n laptop where that doesn't work. ??)03:56
ubuntu_but not working03:56
ubuntu_but thanks03:56
wbadgerBluesKaj, actually the software's release doesn't necessarily change but the patches applied to it do03:56
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DaSkreechubuntu_: type in /nick <newname>03:57
RoKFiTno, that does not work03:57
DaSkreechwbadger: In Ubunut releases the first number is hte year and tecond number is the month it came out03:57
RoKFiTi'll try jucatos method03:58
murchadh_bhabaubuntu_, What software do you use?03:58
ubuntu_Da Skreech i was make so : /nick <patwiecz> and not working03:58
wbadgerDaSkreech, I'm not talking about ubuntu releases I'm talking about packages, like for example openoffice.org 2.0.4-0ubuntu403:58
murchadh_bhabaRoKFiT, Yeah, it's all covered there.03:58
runpaintrying to install Kubuntu 6.10 now03:58
ubuntu_int not nessesary to change my nick03:58
cdr*: I'd like to download the 6.10 image, but can only find descriptions for the CD. What's the difference to the DVD image (available via torrent)? Didn't find anything in the FAQ either.03:58
DaSkreechwbadger: Ah then it depends on the package I think03:58
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rohanis it safe to delete the diagnostic partition in a new laptop ?04:00
rohanacer has made hda1 as some diagnostic recovery partition ..04:00
runpainsure but it is a difficalt proscces04:00
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BluesKajok wbadger , so what was your real question ?04:00
RoKFiTJucato, after sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop, i'm left at a black screen with a cursor04:01
geniiRoKFiT I had this exact same prob due to the vesa driver being installed by default. I had an intel i810 card. When I hand edited the xorg.conf to specify i810 it fixed it04:01
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ubuntu_sorry for that question but on witch server find i randezwous chat?04:01
wbadgerBluesKaj, <wbadger> hello people, can someone please tell me what ubuntu<number> means in package names?04:01
RoKFiTokay, how do i do that04:01
JucatoRoKFiT: yes. press Ctrl+Alt+F1 again to go back to the command line04:01
wbadgerBluesKaj, but I was told in #ubuntu-motu it means the number of patches to the package04:02
wbadgeror so I understand04:02
rohanalso, can i convert a primary partition to encase it within a logical one ?04:02
runpaindont know that one ro04:03
rohanok04:03
geniirohan Does this partition include some XP distro that you are supposed to make your installation CDs from?04:03
runpaincan i install kubuntu then do the ubuntu ce install??04:03
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rohangenii: hda1 probably does04:04
geniirohan Did you do that prior to now? (make your install CDs etc)04:04
rohanno04:05
rohani have not created the rescue disk04:05
runpaini like ub's ce desktop and such04:05
runpaini also i like ichthux too04:06
RoKFiTwhy does the pc sometimes shut off at bootup?04:06
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LBBhi I'm back04:06
geniirohan If you don't care about having it then you can continue. If not I would boot up to the XP and burn off your install CD first before wiping it. But it's safe to do that (wipe hda1)04:07
LBBwhy is it that "sudo passwd root" does not ask for the old PW?04:08
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rohanok, thanks, genii04:09
LBBaon kubuntu live04:09
geniiLBB wb :)04:09
LjLLBB: because there is no old password?04:09
LjLUbotu, tell LBB about sudo | LBB, see the private message from Ubotu04:09
JucatoThere is no password on the Live CD04:09
geniiLBB Any developments on the grub ?04:09
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LBBLjL: also after i exit and do it again,it's the same. but the pw is set differently (other sudo's ask for it)04:10
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LjLLBB, not following you. if you set a root password, then you get a root password... while there was previously none04:11
LjLand on the live CD, there's no user password even04:11
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LjL(but that's different, the root account is *disabled*, while the user simply has an empty password)04:11
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LBBLjL yes, i've succesfully set my pw for root, did an exit to become regular user, did su root and checked if my pw was set, did exit again, and tried to set my root pw again, succesfully, without being asked for my new pw04:15
LjLLBB, you *exited* and then used "*sudo* passwd root" again to set it, right? that's the point - sudo does not ask for the *root* password, but for the *user* password (which happens to be blank and so is not asked at all)04:16
LjLwhy do you care at all on the Live CD anyway?04:16
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LBBLjL: I'm not sure how bad it is, just wanted to check,but if you guys say it's OK, then I guess I'l go back to my boot prob again...04:18
geniiLBB I'm ready for round 204:18
genii:)04:18
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LBBgenii: thanks, I got to the grub boot and should probably edit my menu.lst and such right?04:19
geniiBluesKaj heh !04:19
geniiLBB So after the changes it progressed past where it was going before?04:19
geniistage1 etc etc04:20
LBByep, I meant to say I got to the grub> commandline04:20
LBBwich is stage2 i guess04:20
geniiYup04:20
geniiLBB Yes, so now the editing of /etc/grub/menu.lst is in order04:21
LBBok, since i didn't backup my menu.lst I'll be a while, I hope to see you back for round 3!04:23
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geniiLBB I will have to leave this computer in a bit and go home where the electricity is off for the next 3 hours. So if you say now, I will make an appointment to meet you here when my juice comes back on in 3 hours04:24
geniiBluesKaj LOL04:25
BluesKaj:) genii04:25
geniiWe had a nasty incident involving raccooons and power lines04:25
LBBgenii: confused, are you serious?04:25
LBBso how do you know when the power will be back up?04:26
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geniiLBB I just pulled an allnighter at work. My boss is coming in shortly to do his shift which means taking this computer.04:26
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geniiLBB The hydro company telephoned us to say it would be off for 4 hours starting at 9AM which was 90 minutes ago. So sometime after that04:27
geniiI imagine I'll know when it comes back on becase my ups will stop beeping LOL04:28
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LBBok good luck with that and thanks so far!04:28
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geniiLBB Glad to help :)04:29
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LBBgenii: my menu.lst seems unchanged04:31
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LBBI'll !pastebin04:31
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LBBhey, I thought typing !pastebin invoked a bot with a reminder of the link?04:32
runpain!pastbin04:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:33
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runpain!pastebin04:33
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:33
runpainthere u go lbb04:34
LBBOK so here's my menu.lst http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38225/04:35
LBBrunpain: what did i do wrong?04:35
runpainwait04:36
LBB!pastebin04:36
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:36
LBBok got it04:36
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runpainwhat you doing04:36
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runpaingota go brb04:37
LBBmy pc boots into the grub> commandline and a conversation with genii thought me i needed to edit my menu.lst, but it seems unchanged from the old (working) menu.lst04:37
geniiLBB OK I had to deal with some incoming phonecalls here but mostly returned now til my boss shows04:40
geniiLBB gimme a minute to check pastebin etc etc04:40
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brandon_why does my video driver not stick?04:42
brandon_i switch it, reboot and it switches back04:42
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geniibrandon_ switch it, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   then reboot04:44
dawidyyiyitrttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt04:44
geniiLBB OK, are you getting during grub boot the list of kernels etc at all which can be loaded?04:45
dawidiuuuuuuuuuuuu04:45
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LBBgenii: no just grub> commandline, (or do you mean before that?)04:45
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geniiLBB OK. So we have repaired the file system type of hda2 etc etc. But we now need to do the step which failed previously which is the    grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/tempboot /dev/hda04:47
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LBBgenii: ofcourse, should have thouht of that myself!04:48
geniiLBB Where /dev/hda2 is mounted on /mnt/temboot etc etc so it can now find the menu.lst04:48
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LBBgenii:04:49
LBBubuntu@ubuntu:~$ grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/temp /dev/hda04:49
LBBrm: cannot remove `/mnt/temp/boot/grub/stage1': Permission denied04:49
LBBsorry forgot sudo...04:50
geniiLBB :)04:50
geniime too04:50
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trym|workanyone used taskjuggler?04:53
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xenol!edgy04:55
ubotuUbuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes04:55
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geniiLBB is it still chugging away?04:56
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LynxHow can I make Kubuntu installer install the system on a reiserfs partition? I select the mount point as "/" for the partition, and all what it does is writing "No root file system selected"04:57
geniiheh he left already LOL04:57
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xenolwhere can i plz allow google fast search plugin to konqueror?05:00
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Guardianxkb wise, what is the grab group ?05:01
brandon_sup yall05:01
BluesKajLynx, ubuntu uses extfs ,reiserfs isn't supported05:01
brandon_on boot i have an error message, something about trying to recover05:01
brandon_i forget05:01
LBBgenii: got to the grub> again05:01
geniiLynx You may find something useful here: http://www.oreillynet.com/onlamp/blog/2006/10/ubuntu_edgy_install_frustratio.html05:02
LynxBluesKaj: then  explain me in what way Ubuntu 6.06 was working fine on reiserfs05:02
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geniiLBB OK lemme think a minute :)05:02
xenolwhere can i enable google plugin for konqueror plz?05:03
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geniiLBB ok at grub prompt:    grub> find /boot/grub/stage105:04
BluesKajLynx, reiser is an option only after ubuntu is installed , some ppl still use it... dunno exactly how it's done05:04
LBBgenii is the grub-prompt from the livecd ok05:04
geniiLBB Yup05:05
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LynxBluesKaj: I selected reiserfs when I was installing Ubuntu 5.10, which I later upgraded to 6.0605:05
LBBgenii: Error 15: File not found05:05
Lynxand it all owrked fine05:05
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Lynxand, what fs would you recommend for me to use as root?05:06
geniibleh05:06
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geniiLBB Maybe not OK for livecd grub prompt then :(05:06
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LBBgenii should that path go to a manual mount of /boot05:06
mefisto__xenol: not really sure what you're asking, but take a look in konq's Settings menu > configure konqueror, then go to the "web shortcuts" section05:06
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geniiLBB Hangon did you type in the "grub>" part or just the part after?05:07
Jucatoxenol: what are you looking for? there's already a Google search bar installed and enabled by default in Konqueror when you run it as a web browser05:07
LBBgenii after05:07
geniiLBB OK just checking :)05:07
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BluesKajLynx, well, all i know is that dapper 6.06 and edgy 6.10 use the extfs and don't support reiserfs , however that could be for a clean install...perhaps an upgrade via the internet is different05:07
xenoljucato i dont have it :/05:07
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Jucatoxenol: go to a web page (any web page), then go to Settings -> Configure Extensions -> check if the search bar plugin is enabled05:09
xenoljucato thx05:09
LynxBluesKaj: do you think that ext3 is fine?05:09
BluesKajyes05:09
geniiLBB Well, there is a page to sort of help you here:05:09
geniihttp://orgs.man.ac.uk/documentation/grub/grub_3.html05:09
geniiRelevant area is the part about native install. This is the process more or less I would walk you thru05:09
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LBBgenii: i did "find /mnt/tmp/boot/grub/stage1" after mounting it and got the same05:10
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LBBgenii ok i'll go read05:11
geniiLBB Ah yeah it will all be relative paths to the livecd ... it needs to be done from the HD grub unfortunately :(05:11
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LBBgenii so doing "sudo mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/tmp -t ext2" before isn't the same?05:13
geniiLBB in your case it will be hd(0,1) which corresponds to hda2   (bios hd(0,0)  = linux /dev/hda1   )05:13
geniiLBB no, because the livecd is using it's own bootloader which pre-empts the one we need to get to on the HD from even starting05:14
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LuanFerreiraHelp-me!05:15
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geniiLBB It *MUST* be done at the grub prompt the hd is giving to work05:15
LBBgenii ok so I go reboot do root (hd0,1) then setup (hd0,1)05:15
geniiLBB You got it :)05:15
LBBthanks!05:15
geniiLBB wait05:16
LBBok05:16
LuanFerreiraI have a pendrive05:16
geniithere still?05:16
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LBByep05:16
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xenol!source-o-matic05:16
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic.  It does not currently support Edgy sources.  When asked if it will, the reply was "maybe".05:16
LuanFerreiraand i copy the .iso to pendrive05:16
moody_#ubuntu-pl05:16
LuanFerreirahow i can boot the .iso using pendrive?05:16
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geniiLBB Good :) After you do the first 2 commands you can try to boot after by typing in vmlinuz05:17
LBBgenii ok, is that all?05:17
LuanFerreirahow i can boot the kubuntu.iso using pendrive?05:17
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geniiLBB Yeah05:17
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LBBthank you!05:18
geniinp... have to go05:18
geniibye all05:18
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LBBbye05:18
LuanFerreirahow i can boot the kubuntu.iso using pendrive?05:18
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BluesKajLuanFerreira, you change the the boot sequence in the BIOS so that the C drive is last in the list and make sure your cdrom drive is empty05:19
BluesKajthen the pc should boot from the pen drive05:20
LuanFerreiraI've changend but the pc dont boot from the pendrive05:20
LuanFerreira:(05:20
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kamuiany way to stop cron from mailing me every 5 minutes when it runs my crontab entries?  I tried the MAILTO="" in /etc/crontab, but it had no effect05:25
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snook353anyone know how to fix azureus problem?if you have a router/firewall, please check that you have port 16179 UDP open.  Decentralised trakcing requires this.05:28
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connhi, I just installed Kubuntu and set everything up, but two of my partitions aren't automounting; every time I log out & in, the partitions are dismounted. How do I stop this from happening?05:30
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fdovingconn: what type of partitions?05:31
connfdoving: an ext3 and ntfs partition05:31
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geniiI had to deal with a customer... thought it was my boss arriving for work but no such luck LOL05:33
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mefisto__LuanFerreira: take a look at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1062799&postcount=10005:34
geniiDoes anyone know if LDD returned with some type of status update?05:34
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BluesKajno genii, LBB is still away05:37
geniiBluesKaj Thanks :)05:37
Chrissiehello again05:38
BluesKajgenii, is LBB trying to protect data on the partitions ?05:38
Chrissieaaaaargh, I can't believe the LBB computing is still on!05:39
geniiBluesKaj He is totally unable to boot after upgrading his kernel apparently05:39
geniiChrissie LOL05:39
BluesKajhi Chrissie, again05:39
geniiChrissie What do you need help wth ?05:39
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Chrissiedon't want to interrupt, but I was wondering how to 'stick' a karamba apllet so it starts at each boot... but it can wait, in view of the seriousness of LBB problem05:40
matroblendHello I had to reinstall xp and now I can't get option to boot Kubuntu05:40
geniiChrissie He is absent for the moment...05:40
fdoving!ntfs | conn05:41
ubotuconn: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse05:41
BluesKajChrissie, LLB isn't here atm05:41
Chrissiematroblend: quick fix: get rid of xp, worked for me marvellously, not more pbm booting05:41
matroblendI would love too but I need it for some things05:42
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matroblendDo I have to reinstall kubuntu to get option for boot linux or xp05:43
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BluesKajChrissie, I'm still too gutless to dump XP...I plan to eventually but til I can write to the linuxbox from wifes windows pc I'm stuck with the XP partition. Samba works great from linux to windows and windows to windows on our little network, but windows to linux has me baffled.05:44
mefisto__matroblend: do you have a livecd?05:45
geniiChrissie About karamba specifically I dunno... but for anything normally you want to run always on X startup you put in the file /home/*YOURNAME*/.Xsession05:45
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matroblendYea some where here05:45
mefisto__matroblend: see here -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22435105:45
matroblendok ty05:45
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ziggyhi all, how can I change the theme of gtk applications ?05:46
Chrissiegenii: I think I found the solution in the session manager. Thanks, I'll go search the forums if it doesn't work.05:46
ziggygiven I'm under kde05:46
SkrotHi. Anyone know of a one-liner to recursivly rename everything into lower case?05:46
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BluesKaj!gtkthemes05:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gtkthemes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:46
geniiChrissie eg already in there maybe something like a line:    startkde        or similar.   So if I wanted firefox for instance to run each boot I put after that:  && firefox05:46
BluesKaj!gtk-themes05:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gtk-themes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:47
geniiChrissie OK :)05:47
BluesKaj!themes05:47
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy05:47
ziggy!changethemes05:47
ubotuInstall gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance (KDE).  For a good KDE guide, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=305:47
genii!gtk toolkit05:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gtk toolkit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:48
geniibleh05:48
ziggyok thanks genii that should be ok05:48
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murchadh_bhabaconn, You need to add them to your /etc/fstab. !fstab05:50
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kay!de05:58
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de05:58
darkserverhelp someone know something about java05:58
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darkserverplease i need to put some music in my test proyect05:58
geniiOK now a question of mine: Anyone know a way after an automated netboot (headless) to /chroot, do a warm system HUP with sshd  to avoid having to boot once more with tftpboot or mess with cables/bios etc05:58
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fdoving!java | darkserver05:59
ubotudarkserver: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository05:59
genii!jakarta06:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jakarta - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:01
geniihmm06:01
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_alandarkserver: this *may* help - I know nothing about java - http://www.jsresources.org/examples/index.html06:01
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ubuntuhi all06:04
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darkserverthanks06:05
LBBhi all, back for LBB grub round IV06:05
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runpainhow do i set up root to login06:07
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runpain!root06:08
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.06:08
LBBrunpain: you mean root as default login?06:08
runpainyes too06:09
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runpainso i can sign in as root or user06:09
kTastenabend06:09
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mefisto__runpain: just curious, why do you want to login as root?06:10
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runpainwhy cause i want to point and click on folders and the such too screw up my own systemO_o06:10
runpainLOL06:11
runpainthat was a joke partly06:11
runpainthe screw up system part06:11
runpain;}06:11
LBBrunpain: you need to logout (end current session) and login as the first user you made, from there you can sudo (assuming you use ubuntu)06:11
mefisto__runpain: you can run konq as root with kdesu konqueror06:12
Jucatorun any GUI app as root with kdesu, log into a "root session" in the command line with "sudo -i"06:12
runpainhmm got two responses06:12
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runpainuh got the third one06:13
runpainhow do i make root on login list06:13
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malik__hi there guyz.........is there any real benefit for average linux user in installing crossover office?06:14
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alleerunpain: a real root session is as dangerous thing.  But look at /etc/kde3/kdm  to system setting, advanced, login manager.  We warned you. Root desktop sessions are evil06:15
_alan*nods*06:15
runpainok06:16
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alleerunpain: eh, /etc/kde3/kdmrc or  that is06:16
runpainbut i had no problem with them in mepis06:16
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Jucatorunpain: that page about RootSudo explains all you need/want to know06:16
runpainnot06:16
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runpain i am using ubuntu ce and there is no kdmr in the kde306:17
JucatoCE? that would be using GNOME, right?06:17
mefisto__what is ce?06:17
JucatoChristian Edition, I presume06:18
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alleerunpain: so you use gdm are login manager?  Well, no idea, never configured/used it06:18
mefisto__oh god06:18
Jucatorunpain: again, that page about RootSudo has all the instructions, be it for GNOME or KDE06:18
runpainok06:18
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AluminHi, I'm trying to get a Bluetooth device (D-Link DBT-150 USB dongle) working to talk to my phone...I can see some stuff in /var/log/messages indicating that, at some level, the kernel sees the device's insertion06:20
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AluminI have the "bluetooth" module loaded ... running 6.06 by the way06:21
crube_I have shortcuts to folders in my home directory. Is there a way to get them to open in the same windows instead of opening a new one.06:21
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Alumin"hciconfig -a" returns nothing06:22
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karmikazeanyone know if this wpa_supplicant is supposed to "just work" once you install it06:24
karmikazehad a look at the wifi wiki and it makes it sound like its meant to just work with knetworkmanager06:25
karmikazebut knetworkmanager isnt showing any wifi networks, while wlanassistant is showing all the networks but not connecting06:25
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LBBkarmikaze there've been some questions about that here06:28
karmikazenod06:28
karmikazeyeah ive not been able to get the wifi working consistantly in edgy at all :(06:28
karmikazeconnect once to a network with no encryption, and nothing has happened since06:28
mefisto__crube_: do folders normally open in a new window, or the same window?06:28
karmikazeits like i will do a fresh install of kubuntu, be able to connect to one network once, then i can never connect to anything again06:29
crube_Same window06:29
karmikazeits been very frustrating06:29
crube_mefisto__:  just the folder shortcuts open in a different window06:29
karmikazeive read a bunch of those wiki pages and a bunch of forums, but no one really has a clear answer as to what is going on06:30
geniiLBB I'm still at work :) Any luck06:30
LBBhey genii :), i'm afraid not :(06:31
hazard_karmikaze: your name fits your problem, but beyond that, I know i've gotten a wireless card working perfectly on a headless debian box06:31
geniibleh06:31
karmikazenod hazard_06:31
LBBgenii Error 27: Unrecognized command06:32
hazard_just manual configuration of /etc/networking/interfaces I think it was (given I have no idea what kubuntu's wireless scheme is like)06:32
geniikarmikaze Do you have some Broadcom adapter?06:32
karmikazenope06:32
geniikarmikaze OK06:32
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karmikaze06:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)06:32
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karmikazethe card is supported06:32
karmikazeand it works06:32
karmikazei can see networks06:32
karmikazebut not connect06:32
karmikazeand i thought the issue was cos my network is wpa06:32
hazard_The card I've got is some ultra-cheapo (as in ultra-sucky) no-name card, its working under ndiswrapper06:32
karmikazebut i have wpa_supplicant06:32
runpainyahoo got the root06:33
karmikazedhcp isnt responding for some reason06:33
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karmikazeeven when i manually enter my encryption key in iwconfig, i still cant get an address06:33
karmikazeso i duno :P06:33
runpainnow i can really screw up system (LOL)06:33
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runpain:p06:33
hazard_I had some trouble getting the binding between ndiswrapper iwconfig and ifconfig working at first.06:33
karmikazei dont think i need to go to ndiswrapper though06:34
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hazard_karmikaze: does you network selectively allow mac addresses?06:34
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karmikazelike i said the card is detected and i can see things, and i conected once to an open network06:34
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hazard_If its supported, then no you shouldn't (but its an option anyway)06:34
karmikazei think its the wpa thing, but im not sure06:34
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karmikazethe wifi works fine in suse and in windows06:34
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karmikazebut kubuntu wont connect me06:34
karmikaze!pastebin06:35
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)06:35
hazard_I generally avoid wireless for this kind of reason06:35
justin_Does anyone get the gam_server memory leak?06:35
hazard_(wow that was bad grammar)06:35
karmikazeid run a cable if i could, but its pretty far :P06:35
LBBgenii i went truogh the root and setup ok but then i did vmlinuz.  I read a bit and now I think i should have done "kernel vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-386" is that correct?06:35
karmikazeis there a way to search the paste bin?06:36
hazard_cables=good (not neccessilirily faster anymore, but still, there's no encryption to worry about, better latencies, and no matter how you look at it, there's no 'easy' way to have the connection randomly drop)06:36
karmikazeyeah ethernet all the way...06:36
geniiLBB 1 minute, boss here06:36
karmikazebut like i said its not always an option, im on a laptop and move a lot and need it to work :P06:37
runpainso cool06:37
hazard_Of course, wired connections can die if the cables are cut, or a router/switch/hub explodes, but that dosen't happen...often06:37
karmikazemrrr06:37
runpaingot it going on06:37
karmikazei swear it worked fine with dapper06:37
karmikazemaybe i should just downgrade06:37
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hazard_bleh, downgrade.06:37
karmikazei think ive done about 9 reinstalls this month -_-06:37
hazard_does kubuntu use the same network system setup as debian?06:37
hazard_karmikaze: just for this?06:38
karmikazei tried ubuntu alt, that didnt even find my wifi card06:38
karmikazeyeah i need wifi06:38
karmikazeits cruicial06:38
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hazard_crucial or critical? :P06:38
karmikazeboth06:38
karmikazeim tired of rebooting 5 times a day to get into suse just so i can use my wifi06:38
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karmikazeim working on lots of network projects06:38
karmikazeand often only have wifi access so i can do my work06:39
hazard_have you tried setting it up manually in cfg files? (dump all the GUI stuff and just install the command line stuff)06:39
karmikazeyeah ive tried with iwconfig06:39
karmikazeeverytime its dhcp that fails06:39
karmikazeeverything is configured and up06:39
karmikazebut i cant get an address06:39
karmikazebunch of crypt forums with similar problems06:39
karmikazebut no answers06:39
karmikazeclosest answer ive gotten was illuding to wpa issues06:40
hazard_just to be clear, you're configuring the card with iwconfig, then setting it up with ifconfig?06:40
karmikazebut i have the supplicant06:40
karmikazeconfiguring with iwconfig, and ifup06:40
karmikazechecking with kcontrol06:40
karmikazeeverything is there enabled and configured06:40
hazard_but did you TELL it to do anything with ifconfig?06:40
karmikazebut everytime i dont get response from dhcp06:40
karmikazeroute is sound too06:40
karmikazeit knows where the gateway is and everything06:40
karmikazeits weird @_@06:40
hazard_(I don't think you'd need to, but you might need to instruct ifconfig to make wlan0 (or whatever) a dhcp device, and to get an address.06:41
karmikazei dunno bout ifconfig specifically, ive tried so many walk throughs and howtos :P06:41
karmikazeim getting all mixed up06:41
geniiLBB There is some other directive like :    boot(hd0,0):/vmlinuz-whatever-whatever06:41
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hazard_If not, you could try setting up a static Ip and pinging the router to see if you at least have a connection (then you've norrowed it down to dhcp)06:41
karmikazeive never had to reboot linux this much in my life lol06:42
geniiLBB But try to just cold-boot it to see if the other changes took perhaps06:42
karmikazeyeah tried the static ip thing too06:42
karmikazedidnt work any better @_@06:42
hazard_no pinging?06:42
karmikazei should try it again06:42
karmikazeactually thats a point06:42
hazard_(because unless you know a valid DNSserver's IP you can't ping names in a static IP configuration)06:42
karmikazei'll grab all my suse connection stats and try to force them in kubuntu06:42
karmikazeyeah ive watched the resolve.conf06:43
karmikazedont see any problems outright06:43
karmikazebut i'll check again06:43
hazard_I don't even know what resolve.conf is, so it can't be that important (and I *KNOW* I had similar *VAUGE* problems when I was setting up the wireless card I've got working)06:43
karmikazeresolve holds the dns server address and search path06:44
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hazard_Ah...you should need that if DHCP is working06:44
karmikazei guess what i should really try is disabling my encryption and working up from there06:44
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karmikazedhcp should set resolve on its own06:44
hazard_and it shouldn't affect the ability to ping IPs directly at all06:44
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karmikazethere was something else i noticed, it really doesnt like ! in my encryption key06:45
karmikazewhich is a bit retarded cos no other distro has a problem with it06:45
karmikazei escape it on the commandline and it works, but im not sure if the gui needs escaping or not06:45
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karmikazeok well ty guys, ive got some ideas on other areas to look at06:46
hazard_you SHOULD be able to ping ips directly after asscoating with the wireless network and giving yourself an IP, then informing the configuration of the IP of the network gateway.06:46
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hazard_then for all intents and purposes, if ping works, then the connection does to, and its just some stupid dhcp probelem06:46
hazard_that cold huh?06:46
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karmikazeheh yeah06:48
LBBgenii tried the reboot allready but grub> prompt again06:48
hazard_The windows in my dorm here suck, when its cold and windy out, the only thing that keeps me not-freezing is the wall of empty cheezit-boxes fillilng up the windows.06:49
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hazard_(oddly enough they're FAR more effective than the windows at keeping out the cold-not so much the wind though, so the windows have their use)06:49
LBBgenii so i need to read up on boot instead of kernel vmlinuz06:50
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rizwaanmedia error: "malformed url"06:51
rizwaanwhenever i insert a cd or usb disk06:51
rizwaanearlier i deleted my .kde and Desktop folder..06:51
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rizwaanwith a *new* user the error is not there06:52
kay!de06:52
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moody#ubuntu-pl06:52
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rizwaanhello.. anybody here..06:52
hazard_rizwaan: so take their .kde folder06:53
hazard_and you need the Desktop folder so the system has somewhere to but the hotlink to the volume I think06:53
rizwaan /media/disk is created with root.root permission06:53
hazard_and...?06:53
rizwaanhence, can't access media/disk06:53
hazard_where did that come into you recreating your desktop folder?06:53
hazard_~/Desktop is needed so the systsem can create the hotlink to the volume MOUNTED in /media06:54
hazard_(I think, I'm pretty sure its just some funny kind of file)06:54
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rizwaanhmmm..06:55
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rizwaani'll copy the *new* users's folder to my folder06:55
rizwaanand change the ownership06:55
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hazard_Does the new user have a Desktop folder?06:55
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rizwaanyes06:55
rizwaani too have06:55
hazard_You just SAID you deleted it!06:55
rizwaani logged on afterwards06:56
rizwaanmay be with .kde folder06:56
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geniiOK all gotta go> Any last questions real fast? LBB, etc?07:09
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Darkkishand thanks again07:10
Darkkishor not07:10
DarkkishXD07:10
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Darkkishwahhh07:13
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karmikazeif i have an ethernet wire plugged in can i still connect to wifi07:14
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karmikazeor do i have to remove the cable07:14
Darkkishso is 2GB too big of a swap?07:14
karmikazenah its not too big07:14
Darkkishno it should work karmikaze07:14
karmikazei use 1gb typically07:14
karmikazei duno if youd need 2gb really07:14
Darkkishi only have 512MB of ram on my linux comp so its probably a waste of space07:14
Darkkish but its a 60GB drive so no worries.07:14
karmikazeunless you were running a lot of applications that need swapping07:14
hazard_you can07:15
hazard_its just I'm not quite sure which one the system is going to choose to use (and it might be tricky to test wireless that way)07:15
Darkkishlol it might not work for testing internet07:15
Darkkishbut it will work just fine07:15
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hazard_I think you can tell PING to use a specific interface, but that probably wouldn't be a good indicator of weather or not DNS lookups are working07:16
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Darkkishyay07:17
Darkkishthis morning my wireless has decided not to work07:17
karmikazewelcome to hell Darkkish :P07:17
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Darkkishi mean its all working07:17
karmikazewhats your issue?07:17
karmikazebut not connecting?07:17
Darkkishit just won't connect to the router07:17
Darkkishyeah07:17
karmikaze:P07:17
karmikazewelcome to my world07:17
hazard_my wireless card sometimes jsut dies, everything will say its working, but its clearly not, (for example, I'm in the woods, where there IS no wireless)07:17
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karmikazelol07:18
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Darkkishlol07:18
Darkkishit has to be exercised everyonce in a while07:18
Darkkish:p07:18
karmikazewhipped you mean07:18
karmikazelol07:18
Darkkishlol07:18
hazard_but that's because my wirelss card is physically directrly above my CPU heat sink-plate-thing, and when the system gets to hot, wirelss starts doing strange things07:19
Darkkishlol07:19
Darkkishwell mines a laptop07:19
hazard_this is a laptop also.07:19
Darkkishand it was a gift idk where the wifi card is or who installed it07:19
Darkkishits definitly a wifi card problem thoguh07:19
Darkkishbecause i can't even connect to this persons router who doesn'[t have wep07:20
hazard_of course, both this computer and its wireless card are old (I've only got wireless B)07:20
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hazard_but it works just fine.07:20
Darkkishis there any way to automate typing in the root pass every damn new thing i open?07:21
hazard_are you talkying about terminal windows?07:21
Darkkishno07:22
hazard_or ttys?07:22
Darkkish.. ttys?07:22
Darkkishwhats a ttys07:22
Darkkishoh wierd07:22
DarkkishLMFAO07:22
hazard_ctrl-alt-f* (f7 is the default one)07:22
Darkkishdude07:22
Darkkishthe wireless switch on the front of the lappy was switched to off07:22
hazard_Yes, you're a moron then.07:23
Darkkish(it never mattered in windows, i assumed it wsan't hooked up to anything at all)07:23
karmikazelol07:23
hazard_the windows driver probably gets to access a command that isn't normally there in the system07:23
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hazard_so the switch is for stuff that dosen't know about the 'special' command.07:23
hazard_yes, the (in this case not proverbial) broken/fixed switch.07:24
Darkkishlol karmikaze i just disabeled it and tried to enable it and it was going "enabling" for about 20 seconds, so i fliped the switch on the front, retried enabling and it enabled in a split second07:24
karmikazeheh07:25
karmikazeok well i can connect instantly to non encrypted wifi networks07:25
karmikazeanother weird thing is knetworkmanager doesnt seem to detect that wifi is working07:25
karmikazebut wlanassistant works fine07:25
hazard_That reminds me of the time a bios was complaining about 'can't find hd0', which I was at a loss to explain, until I realized that hd0 was in fact, not physically present.07:25
karmikazeheh07:25
hazard_Given the machine _HAS_ 14 drives in a standard case, remebering which drive is actually considered hd0 is no easy task (or noticing that it and its carrage are gone).07:26
dominikhello world :)07:26
karmikazelol07:26
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hazard_yea, so needless to day it was quite happy and worked perfectly again once I put the drive back in where it was supposed to be.07:27
Darkkish14 drives?07:28
hazard_karmikaze: I seem to recall that some wireless key handlers don't like certian characters ( '!' seems like it'd be one of them)07:28
hazard_yes, 14 drives. In a case meant for 4.07:28
karmikazeindeed07:28
karmikazeits weird tho suse doesnt mind !07:29
Darkkishwhy hazard_?07:29
karmikazebut i'll try changing my key first07:29
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hazard_because stacking more (free junk) drives into a case is cheaper than buying large drives.07:29
Darkkishlol07:29
rohanthe compiz-kde package does not exist on edgy. how do i get AIGLX working on kubuntu, with compiz ?07:29
DarkkishI'd rather have one 100GB drive than ten 10GB drives07:30
rohani have intel GMA 950, so i guess aiglx is the best choice ?07:30
hazard_Of course, getting them all to interface correctly requires some major creativity.07:30
Darkkisheven if it cost me $8007:30
dominiki have a computer that does not even detect that there's a wireless usb device attached...07:30
DarkkishI bought a 400GB seagate drive for $8007:30
hazard_Yes, well, if I had 10 10gb drives, I'd span them so they'd appear as 1.07:30
Darkkishstill07:30
dominikhow do I make the computer detect the usb...?07:30
hazard_I've actually been considering fixing up the system so its less wildly bizzare, and getting a few large drives07:31
karmikazedunno darkkish, having a big drive fail on you can be a pretty scarring experience :P07:31
karmikazenot that its happened to me, but ive had friends lose 300gb07:31
karmikazethat really sucks :P07:31
hazard_(but then I'd need to buy a REAL power supply, since my present power 'solution' is plenty POWERFUL, but it isn't exactly stable (or standard)07:32
dominikbut, my other computer automatically picks up the wireless network without me doing anything..07:32
hazard_Heh, I had a friend with a 320 that fell out of its case, the drive still works, but the process of being pulled out of the enclosure while active completley screwed over the windows file system.07:32
dominikbut my other computer tells me that no usable wireless devices found :(07:32
xenolplz wa is katapult for?07:32
xenolwat07:32
karmikazewhat is the device dominik and what distro is your other system07:32
fdoving!katapult | xenol07:33
ubotuxenol: katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.07:33
hazard_Linux & the afore mentioned machine with 14 smaller drives recovered all his stuff.07:33
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karmikazeooo katapult sounds cool!!07:33
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dominikkarmikaze: am using kubuntu 6.06 and the usb is d-link07:33
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karmikazedmesg reporting that it is connected?07:34
hazard_ah, karmi, you've got 6.10 right? it worked just fine in 6.06?07:34
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karmikazeyeah hazard_07:34
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hazard_oh, wait dominik!=Darkkish07:34
karmikazeits working on unencrypted networks now hazard_07:34
karmikazeim making a new key for my network, see if that makes a difference07:34
hazard_thinky-thread terminated.07:34
Darkkishwhats up?07:34
xenol!krita07:35
Realistic_Dragon!kst07:35
ubotukrita: a pixel-based image manipulation program for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 2463 kB, installed size 7768 kB07:35
ubotukst: A KDE application used for displaying scientific data. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.1-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 3 kB, installed size 36 kB07:35
hazard_air, and beyond that lots of open space.07:35
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xenol!inkscape07:35
ubotuInkscape is a powerful vector graphics drawing application - see http://www.inkscape.org/ for more07:35
xenol!graphic tools07:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about graphic tools - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:35
Darkkishand whats after that hazard_07:35
xenol!graphics programs07:35
hazard_more space (or perhaps quarks)07:35
hazard_(or ether)07:35
hazard_Then I'm sure it eventually somehow loops in some mindcrunching way.07:36
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karmikazewhat are you after xenol07:37
dominikbut when I run the kubuntu on my second computer, it picks up the wireless network...07:37
mefisto__I've got a question about Konversation: what do the nick colours mean?07:37
ninHertrying to install svn packet for gimp....warning; break packets07:37
hazard_does your 2nd computer have the same wireless card?07:37
ninHerand i can't install it07:37
dominikyes hazard07:37
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xenolkarmikaze i just want to know it there aint a list of all good graphic programs for ubuntu07:37
ninHersvg sorry07:38
karmikazeid go to adept or whatever and search graphics or soemthing07:38
hazard_dominik: no idea then, karmikaze seems to have some attraction to weird wireless problems though07:38
karmikazewhat sort of graphics work you trying to do, painting, vectoring, photo manip?07:38
dominikhmm..07:38
seanHey guys, just installed Kubuntu. :)07:38
ninHeri'm using adept right now07:38
xenolvectoring07:38
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karmikazedominik: pastebin your 'dmesg' when you plug in the device07:38
muzscmanhas anyone ever gotten the ati drivers to install for a laptop ati 200m?07:38
xenolgot inkscape also gmp but i also onstalled blender07:38
xenolinstalled07:38
karmikazein my experience usb wifi devices hate me even more07:38
karmikazelol07:38
ninHertrying to open a svg file07:38
BluesKajmefisto__, if enable nick colors, the nicks in the text take on various colors07:38
karmikazesvg07:39
junkyhello07:39
karmikazeinkscape should do it07:39
junkycan some one help me please07:39
xenoli know07:39
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hazard_karmikaze: you just need to find the broken/fixed switch!07:39
xenolbut any other program u know about?07:39
karmikazelol yea07:39
ninHerthanks karmikaze07:39
karmikazexenol vector programs?07:39
junkyi see with low resolution colors videos and pictures why??07:39
hazard_(and I need to find an RA who isn't pass-out drunk)07:39
junkyi have installed vidia drivers07:39
xenolyeah07:39
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karmikazehrmm07:39
xenolkarmiakze well all kind of graphic program07:40
dominikhow do I pastebin  my 'dmesg' ? sorry...am still learning these things :)07:40
karmikazeoh07:40
xenol!paste07:40
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)07:40
karmikazewell i like gimp a lot, krita is nice and simple07:40
mefisto__BluesKaj: yes, but who gets what colours?07:40
karmikazedomink on the command line run dmesg right after you plug in your usb thing07:40
junkyplzzz07:40
hazard_I'm gunna go RA hunting, be back later.07:40
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karmikazexenol: i think inkscape is really the standard vector program these days07:41
mefisto__BluesKaj: eg, who gets colour 1, colour 2, etc? is it just randomly assigned to nicks just to look pretty, or does it have some meaning?07:41
xenolah07:41
karmikazebut yeah search adept for vector, you might find some others07:41
ninHerkarmikaze: yep, but i was trying to open it up with gimp07:41
ninHerit has a plug- in for07:41
xenoldo u know any page where i can find most of open source softs and their review?07:41
karmikazeah ninHer im not sure if gimp does svg, but inkscape defo does07:42
karmikazexenol: linux format magazine has great reviews07:42
junkyany one can  help  me plesase?07:42
karmikazenot sure about any sites in particular tho07:42
ninHerkarmikaze: anyway....it worked inkscape07:42
ninHerlol07:42
karmikazecool :)07:42
ninHerthanks again07:42
karmikazenp07:42
ninHeryweah07:42
xenolkarmikaze u know some web page? i am kinda new and dont know a lot about these things07:42
karmikazehrmm07:43
Darkkishis contact like OE?07:43
seanHaha, I feel like such a noob, I can't figure out how to run this Flashplayer installer. >.<07:43
Darkkishkontact*07:43
Darkkishsean lol07:43
Darkkishif you are downloading from adept07:43
Darkkishyou have to click "view details"07:43
karmikazelol sean07:43
karmikaze ./flashinstallerfile07:43
karmikaze:)07:43
karmikazedid you unpack the tar?07:43
seanYeah.07:44
seanIt's in my home folder.07:44
karmikazeok07:44
karmikazecd into the folder it made07:44
karmikazethere should be some installer file07:44
seanYeah.07:44
karmikazeand to run it you use ./thefile07:44
seanI've been double clicking on it for like 5 minutes. ^_^07:44
karmikazenah use commandline07:44
karmikazeit asks you questions07:44
hazard_is it a source file? or a precompiled binary?07:44
dominikactually, the wireless use device is already plugged into the back of the computer, and all I had to do was insert the LiveCD and restart the computer..07:45
Darkkishwhy don't se just use apt-get?07:45
karmikazeah did it work dominik07:45
karmikazeive always used the manual flash installer07:45
karmikazebut yeah apt should work fine07:45
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Darkkishyeah07:45
seanWhat should?07:46
hazard_a duck07:46
seanSorry, just installed, I've no idea what I'm doing. :p07:46
aleksanteri!kate07:46
ubotuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code07:46
dominik...and after that successfully loading the system, I'd go to KStart->Internet-> Wireless Assistence..07:46
karmikazesean, can you open up a terminal?07:46
VR_!code07:46
ubotuProgramming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, eclipse, pida07:46
weedarOkay, this is odd. I'm able to print test pages, but I can't print from applications like Acrobat Reader or Kpdf - Anyone got any ideas?07:46
karmikazemenu > system > konsole07:46
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rohanhow do i stop kmix starting on every login ?07:47
dominikthat is where am getting the window message that there is no usable wireless device  :-(((07:47
hazard_weedar the pdf might be coded to not allow itself to be printed07:47
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fdovingrohan: close it before loging out.07:47
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seanYeah, karmikaze07:47
karmikazedominik: did you have it plugged in while you installed07:47
karmikazeok sean07:47
seanI've got Kate open.07:47
karmikazesean what?07:47
karmikazelol07:47
rohanalready did that, fdoving07:47
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rohandidnt work07:47
karmikazeyou still trying to do flash?07:47
seanYeah.07:47
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karmikazeon the konsole, cd flashdirectory or whatever it is07:47
karmikazeyah me too hazard_ lol07:48
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karmikazeonce you are in the flash directory in the konsole use the ./flashinstaller to run the program07:48
jason_i keep having this problem with firefox, it just keeps closing itself all of a sudden, what could b wrong with it?07:48
hazard_GAHH!!! I wanna go on break, but I need an RA to sign me out...07:48
karmikazeyeah same jason_07:48
karmikazei dunno what it is.. buggy ff version or something07:48
dominikyes, karmikaze07:49
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karmikazehrmm07:49
jason_yeah, must be07:49
hazard_or a series of html/scripting exceptions it couldn't deal with.07:49
karmikazedominik: so when you pull it out and plug it back in, does dmesg say there are any errors with the usb device?07:49
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chris_waferSalut  tous07:49
karmikazeit often crashes when i open a lot of new tabs suddenly07:49
karmikazeor do anything suddenly lol07:49
dominiknope, nothing07:49
karmikazehrmm07:49
karmikazenot a good sign dominik07:49
karmikazeif dmesg isnt detecting a new device being added07:50
hazard_karmikaze: it might just be that the system just dosen't know its a device for networking.07:50
karmikazei dont really know07:50
karmikazebut it should detect that something is there07:50
hazard_(or it requsts USB2 and the system dosen't have it)07:50
karmikazeeven if it doesnt know what it is07:50
karmikazenot that id know how to fix it at that level07:50
karmikazebut its a starting point :P07:50
dominikbut when I boot my other computer up with the same LiveCD, it works like magic there07:50
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hazard_OR, the usb header is internally disconnected or disabled (that one was fun to figure out)07:50
karmikazeheh07:50
weedarhazard_: you might be right, I'm able to print from kedit it would seem07:50
karmikazesame distro version dominik?07:51
xenolkarmikaze plz how can i make shortcut to my home folder on my desktop?07:51
dominikyep. the same CD07:51
hazard_but that would result in an infinite recursive loop!07:51
hazard_(which are great fun, but bad practice)07:51
karmikazexenol: were you looking for reviews?? http://www.linux-magazine.com/07:51
karmikazei used to subscribe to that magazine its great for people starting out07:52
karmikazeyou can find it at any big bookstore too07:52
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karmikazeweird dominik07:52
hazard_OH...WAIT, xenol: do you know how to open a terminal?07:52
dominikI've been banging my head on the table, and it begining to halt now...07:52
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xenolhazard_ lol yes07:53
hazard_headbanging...that sounds like me during my calc2 final (which I stand a 90% of having failed)07:53
karmikazexenol you got the home dir on your toolbar??07:53
karmikazejust drag it onto the desktop from there07:53
xenoli got there only system07:53
hazard_xenol: ln -s ${HOME} ${HOME}/Desktop/Xenols_House07:53
hazard_I think, but I might have the paths backwards07:53
karmikazexenol: right click the desktop, create new link to location07:54
hazard_or that.07:54
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karmikazethen just add /home/username07:54
hazard_(but I like my way better)07:54
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xenolwell it creates only desktop conf file07:54
karmikazeheh07:54
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karmikazeyeh me too hazard_ ;D07:54
xenolif u mean that07:54
mefisto__xenol: to make a shortcut, just drag the folder to the desktop (or anywhere you want it to be), and when you drop it, a menu comes up. choose "link here"07:54
xenoland no icon or anything white07:54
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xenolthx07:55
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karmikazenp07:55
karmikazeoh07:55
karmikazehaha07:55
karmikazeyeah07:55
karmikazethat too07:55
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kkathmandoes anyone know why knotify starts up at boot?07:55
hazard_heh, OSX dosen't know what to think of me having a symlink on my desktop to my desktop.07:55
karmikazeyeah ff crashes whenever i try to open more than one tab at a time07:56
hazard_I'm going to stap confusing it before I break something {else}.07:56
karmikazeif i wait for it to load then open the next tab its fine07:56
seankarmikaze:  Got a terminal open.07:56
karmikazeok sean07:56
seanHad to go to the loo, sorry. :)07:56
hazard_I thought seen was all better...?07:56
karmikazesean: do     cd flashdirectoryname07:57
karmikazeor whatever its called07:57
karmikazethat will put the konsole in the directory07:57
hazard_or you could drag the flash folder to the terminal window07:57
karmikazeooh thats clever07:57
karmikazeheh07:57
seanok07:57
karmikazeok sean now do ls07:58
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hazard_Well, its the only way I can get anywhere when I'm feeling insane, and have unicode characters in file names.07:58
karmikazeyou see all the files in there07:58
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seanyeah07:58
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karmikazesean: then you can run the installer by doing     ./flashinstallerthing07:58
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soulriderhi everyone07:58
karmikazeshould be easy from there07:58
hazard_hi8 mauro_07:58
soulrideris it posible to resize a EXT3 partition without losing data ?07:58
soulriderit only has a few GB used07:58
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seanThanks mate, sorted. :)07:58
karmikazeyeah soulrider i think that should be ok with qparted07:59
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karmikazesean: :D07:59
soulriderqparted or qtparted ?07:59
hazard_I'd probably just clone the drive anyway.07:59
karmikazeyeah qtparted07:59
fdovingsoulrider: it's possible to increase the partition size, but not decrease.07:59
karmikazeheh07:59
soulriderahh k07:59
karmikazeyeah backup anything cruicial07:59
karmikazebut it should be fine really07:59
soulriderfdoving:  :(07:59
karmikazeoh fdoving?07:59
soulriderthat REA::Y sucks07:59
karmikazeboo07:59
soulriderah damn08:00
karmikazewell id back up anything critical before playing with partitions anyway08:00
fdovingsoulrider: actually.. you can. i read 'without rebooting'.. of course you can resize it.08:00
xenolkarmikaze i made somt stupid thing i wanted to change icon and i changed icons of all folders :( how can i remove it? need ot find folder icon,08:00
soulriderfdoving: so i can reduce the size?08:00
karmikazehrm08:00
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soulrideri need to split it into 2 actually08:00
karmikazenot sure xenol, you wanna change ALL folder icons, or just one08:00
fdovingsoulrider: yes, that's possible. i'd recommend a livecd with qtparted or gparted. there is a gparted-livecd that is good.08:01
xenolonly one08:01
karmikazeah right click it08:01
soulrideri got the kubuntu live CD08:01
soulrideri dont really trust it though08:01
soulrideralso08:01
karmikazeproperties, and click the image08:01
karmikazeyou can change it like that08:01
soulriderwill it screw kubuntu up? last time i did something like that it went ebrserk08:01
karmikaze>_>08:01
soulridermy root is sda1, i want to partition sda308:01
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hazard_you want to make sda3 a diffrent size? (and youa ctually do have 3 partions on the drive? [sda1 swap and sda3?]  and your drives are really scsi? [sata uses sd* notation?] )08:03
soulrideryes, its a SCSI drive08:03
soulrideri got08:03
soulridersda1 as root08:03
soulridersda2 as swap08:03
soulriderand sda3 for stuff08:03
soulrideri wnat to split sda3 into 208:03
hazard_nice, what kind? Scsi1->scsi3Ultra?08:03
karmikazeyeah that should be fine soulrider08:03
soulrideri think its SCSI308:03
Darkkishuse a partition manager?08:03
soulriderare SCSI drives good? my dad bought it :P08:04
karmikazescsi is fastest08:04
karmikaze:)08:04
karmikazenice drives usually08:04
Darkkishyah :D08:04
soulriderohh08:04
soulrider:D08:04
karmikaze^_^08:04
soulriderawesome!08:04
karmikazeata < sata < sata2 < scsi08:04
karmikazescsi ftw!08:04
soulriderw00t08:04
hazard_Scsi Drives are generally faster than IDE, and scsi3Ultra is still faster than SATA2 (not by much though) however, there's other advantages, like the fact that even half-decient scsi controllers be the crap out of most sata controllers08:04
soulriderthat just made my day LD08:05
soulrider:D08:05
karmikazemmm08:05
karmikazehehehe08:05
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xenolwat is better? firefox or konqueror and thunderbird or kmail?08:06
xenol!kmail08:06
ubotukmail: KDE Email client. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 2174 kB, installed size 6724 kB08:06
soulriderxenol: Opera08:06
rohanxenol: depends on your choice :p08:06
karmikazei love konqueror, dunno why i dont use it more...08:06
soulriderweird.... i got a DVD i burned here08:07
karmikazebetter what what?08:07
lupine_85konq. ++08:07
karmikazemail???08:07
soulriderbut linux wont show any file son it or anything08:07
fdovingxenol: konqueror and mailody (mailody.net)08:07
Darkkishi use firefox08:07
Darkkishi just like it08:07
soulriderlike if nothing was inserted08:07
fdoving!mailody08:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mailody - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:07
hazard_I love konqueror's name, I hate the program08:07
lupine_85kmail ~=08:07
Darkkishi've heard konq runs smother08:07
karmikazei havent tried kmail in years, last time i did it ate all my imap mail D:08:07
Darkkishsmoother08:07
soulriderxenol: i use Opera for browsing and email08:07
Darkkish... ew08:07
karmikazethunderbird is very good for mail, simple08:07
Darkkishi tried opera i just can't get used to it, it has no extensions08:07
karmikazemailody sounds cool08:07
lupine_85thunderbird is too slow for me08:07
Darkkishi happen to be installing thunderbird right now08:08
lupine_85but I can't get used to mutt :p08:08
xenolwell since konqueror is everything it is browser file viewer FTP client wat else it is?08:08
lupine_85kmail is OK08:08
karmikazei miss pine :'(08:08
karmikazeheh08:08
karmikazei love k everything for its configurability08:08
karmikazebut i cant trust it now08:08
hazard_pine?08:08
karmikazencurses <308:08
karmikazeterminal based mail client08:08
hazard_ah08:08
lupine_85mutt > pine :p08:08
karmikazeyah08:08
karmikazehehe08:08
lupine_85karmikaze: I use Kmail with IMAP08:09
lupine_85works fine08:09
karmikazei should try mutt again actually08:09
karmikazecool lupine08:09
karmikazeit was 3-4 years ago i last tried kmail08:09
karmikazei bet big advancements have been made since08:09
xenolwhy i dont see Kmail in internet folder? :O08:09
karmikazeheh xenol08:09
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karmikazesearch for it on apt or adept or whatever08:09
xenolit is installed :P08:10
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Darkkishwtf08:10
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Darkkishwhy does my thunderbird mail from adept have an ugly gnome icon?08:10
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Ksidoes anyone know why flash isn't working on my live cd 6.10? i can install other things (like vlc), but after i installed flash, when i used Fx, it would just close when a flash page is loaded.08:10
karmikazelol Darkkish get a new theme for it then08:10
Darkkishno karmikaze the button08:10
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Darkkishin the menu08:11
karmikazeoh haha08:11
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Darkkishlooks like a brown envelope08:11
karmikazewell you can configure that too08:11
Darkkishstill08:11
Darkkishewww08:11
karmikaze<3 k configurability08:11
hazard_I like how my common mode of 'configure stuff' is 'mame beyond recognition'08:11
xenolwell if i install every kind of sh*t on linux will it become sluggish as windows with 48764687976749 apps installed?08:11
xenoli guess no08:11
karmikazeheh only if you run them all at the same time xenol08:12
soulriderlol, i had this unlabeled DVD here, and linux wouldnt read it. I thought, what a piece of crap DVD. I went to my dads computer that runs windows to see what it was.... and it was Vista :P08:12
soulrideri didnt get the "whata  piece of crap" part wrong :P08:12
karmikazeyou can always easily uninstall stuff once you know you dont want it08:12
hazard_depends on if they start deamons, that or if they dump BOATLOADS of files inthe same few folders08:12
xenolhmm i uninstall apps but conf files stay on disk or no?08:13
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hazard_(and by boatloads, I mean you MIGHT have problems if there's more than 2k files in a single folder that's frequently accessed)08:13
hazard_(probably more like 8k though)08:13
xenollol08:14
xenolif i want to reach 8k files in one folder i have to be isntalling and unninstlling staff 24/708:14
xenol:D08:14
hazard_no..08:14
hazard_because then you'd installing then deleting the same files08:14
xenolk one question08:14
karmikazexenol: one of the best software sites http://freshmeat.net/ can search for anything on there08:15
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karmikazeor sourceforge.net08:15
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xenolif i install thunderbird and for example it installs some other libraries as libxxx (example only) will stay installed or will be  uninstalled too?08:15
fdovingxenol: you can have them uninstalled if you want to. it's not automatic yet.08:16
karmikazedepends if other software uses those libs too08:16
hazard_I think it would depend on what you had install it, adept seems to do ok at keeping that stuff straight08:17
karmikazelibs are usually of negligable size anyway08:17
hazard_not on 4G drives.08:17
karmikazelol08:17
karmikaze:$08:17
lupine_85xenol: with apt-get, they will be left. With aptitude, they'll be removed08:17
karmikazeo rly08:17
lupine_85deborphan is also your friend08:17
lupine_85ya rly08:17
xenolwell i want to know this if i install thunderbird and some other files r installed with it08:17
xenoland when i uninstall thunderbird those files will be unninstalled automatically?08:18
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lupine_85xenol: if you use aptitude, yes08:18
karmikazeitll tell you how many packages have to be installed to get the program in adept08:18
hazard_what? my armies of obsolete 4G drives work great for boot drives (and ~6 together make up a noticiable amount of space!)08:18
xenolso aptitude is for ermoving packages ?08:18
karmikazeor installing them08:18
xenoland apt-get?08:18
lupine_85no, you have to install it with aptitude and remove it with aptitude08:18
lupine_85aptitude is a smart version of apt-get08:18
hazard_aptitude, that's what I meant by adept08:18
xenolach08:19
karmikazelol08:19
lupine_85aptitude != adept08:19
lupine_85aptitude is a smarter, drop-in replacement for apt-get08:19
xenolwell graphic based and apt-egt is in konsole right?08:19
lupine_85aptitude is also terminal-based08:19
hazard_there's dselect to, but I've had it on multiple occastions decide everything on the system was UNWORTHY of being installed.08:19
hazard_Then again, aptitude has done that to me too.08:19
lupine_85where you would do apt-get install, do aptitude install; apt-get remove becomes aptitude remove08:19
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Darkkishediting the panel next to K is very annoying08:20
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hazard_(then there was the time that in order to satsify dependcies, aptitude decided to remove my kernel)08:20
lupine_85hazard_: yep, that's it :)08:20
lupine_85it's extremely smart - that's the problem...08:20
xenolso using aptitude is risky? :D08:20
DarkkishOMG08:20
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Darkkishi just figured out how to do it08:20
Darkkishits really easy, right click > move08:21
karmikazeyeah lol08:21
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karmikazeso lupine_85 if you want the benefits of aptitude you have to use it all the time then?08:21
karmikazeto install and remove08:21
lupine_85no08:21
zigovrhi all, how can I remove the "hibernate" and "sleep" buttons from kde "shutdown" menu ?08:21
karmikazeok08:21
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lupine_85just on the packages you want the benefits with08:21
karmikazeok cool08:21
lupine_85if you apt-get install a package, aptitude remove == apt-get remove08:21
karmikazezigovr: right click the kmenu button and configure the menus08:22
karmikazeoh wait no08:22
geniiYay electricity is on at home again :)08:22
LBB_genii ! working overours?08:22
zigovrkarmikaze: yeah sorry it's not a menu buy a dialog box in fact, I explained wrong :)08:22
geniiLBB Nah I just got home, thought I'd check in before I crash08:22
hazard_you're planning on crashing...on purpose? :P08:23
karmikazezigovr: in kcontrol somewhere you can disable the shutdown ability of users08:23
karmikazelike make shutdown need root password or something?08:23
geniiYeah I'm a crash-test dummy ;)08:23
hazard_karmikaze given up on wireless yet?08:23
LBB_genii so i'd guess i'd better not keep you away from your bed with my grub-stuff08:23
hazard_what grub stuff?08:24
karmikazehazard_: it works :D on unencrypted anyway08:24
zigovrkarmikaze: I'll check it, but I want to keep the possibility to shutdown, just since "sleep" and "hibernate" do not work on that computer I want to remove them08:24
karmikazeim getting complacent, and stealing wifi tho08:24
geniiLBB Nah I love a good saga :)08:24
karmikazeshould sort out my network so it works08:24
karmikazeoh i see08:24
karmikazeim not sure zigovr08:24
Darkkishits cool to have a lappy :)08:24
Darkkisheven if its an old crappy one08:24
karmikazehazard_: what symbols is kubuntu ok with in wifi keys??08:24
zigovrI removed them in /etc/acpi, but kde doesn't seem to look in there08:24
hazard_I know I've managed to Fix GRUB *ONCE* and have mangled it at least a dozen times.08:24
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geniihazard Basically a grub rebuild after doing grub-install to the wrong partition etc08:24
hazard_karmikaze: I'd say letters. and basic numbers.08:25
karmikaze:P08:25
karmikazeok hazard_08:25
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geniiLBB So made any progress with it? New developments/further booting etc ?08:26
hazard_Try that, if that dosen't work then there's probably something wrong with the wpa encryptian handling in 6.10 (or it hates a combination of YOU, the wireless card, your router, that specific character sequence and some bald guy in Montana)08:26
karmikazehazard_: do you know how i can find out which driver my wifi card is actually using08:26
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hazard_lsmod?08:26
karmikazelol hazard_08:26
geniiHmm as opposed to complex numbers LOL08:27
hazard_I don't know, and I can't investigate for you.08:27
karmikazei'll find it :)08:27
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hazard_no [booting]  kubuntu machine available.08:27
Darkkishhi genii08:27
LBB2genii great! now i booted to a grub prompt and typed basicaly one of the items of my menu.lst (root kernel initrd savedefault boot). The system started booting, but then said (after mentioning the lvm's "ALERT! does not exist. Dropping to a shell!"08:28
geniiLBB2 That LBB?08:28
LBB2yup, LBB was taken08:28
hazard_what's LBB>?08:28
geniiDarkkish Heyas :)08:28
LBB2hazard thats me08:28
geniihazard_ Some guy with a convoluted grub issue! ROFL08:28
hazard_Oh, Hi.08:29
LBB2hi08:29
karmikazeipw it seems, lsmod was the right place to look08:29
hazard_cool, what's ipw?08:29
geniiLBB So it gave some LVM message? Interesting08:29
hazard_(i'm tired, and hungry, and my brain no worky from physics final)08:29
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geniiLBB do you have the original pastebin for your first sfdisk output?08:30
karmikazehehehe08:30
karmikazeipw is the driver for my wifi card08:30
geniiLBB2 So it gave some LVM message? Interesting08:30
geniiLBB2 do you have the original pastebin for your first sfdisk output?08:30
karmikazekwlan seems to be a good program08:30
karmikazehas built in wpa_supplicant08:30
hazard_genii is there any way to fix a grub installation which pointed to linux install on a drive that has ceased to exsist?08:30
LBB2genii i wrote the message down, and can paste it08:31
geniiSorry for dbl posts guys :) Wrong nick etc etc and no caffeine08:31
hazard_I know the feeling.08:31
geniihaxard_ Yes, yes there is LOL08:31
LBB2genii what do you mean ""08:31
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LBB2genii what do you mean "original pastebin"08:31
Darkkishif i installed xfce on this machine08:32
geniiLBB2 Remeber at the very beginning we had a dump from sfdisk which you patebinned. It had the partition type of Amoeba for hda2 That url08:32
karmikazemmmmyesh08:32
Darkkishcan i just boot to it from the lon\gin page?08:32
Darkkishcan i just boot to it from the login page?08:32
karmikazeyes Darkkish08:32
rohanhow do i tell kubuntu to use synaptics driver and not the generic mouse driver that xorg is current using ?08:32
karmikazespeaking of the login manager, how can i change that ugly blue background08:32
Darkkishlol08:32
Darkkishits not ugly :O08:32
LBB2genii i'm on a live cd remember, and did't write it down...08:32
karmikazei tried in kcontrol but it doesnt change until after i login which is pointless08:33
hazard_karmikaze: I know this one! Or at least I remember changing it once. Then promptly killing the loginmanager somehow (I don't *THINK* the two events were related)08:33
geniiLBB@ Hmm. OK. Pls do a sudo fdisk /dev/hda  then p     thentell me which partition has LVM for the type please :)08:33
LBB2genii if there's a search function in pastebin i could find it with my new fsdisk dump08:34
Darkkishis xfce in universe/08:34
geniibleh08:34
geniiLBB2 Hmm. OK. Pls do a sudo fdisk /dev/hda  then p     thentell me which partition has LVM for the type please :)08:34
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LBB2genii ok08:34
hazard_so yea, karmikaze I really don't actually know.l08:34
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xenolwell i just isntalled firefox08:35
xenoland i dont like it08:35
xenolcrappy icon :p08:35
zlodey-08:35
karmikazelol08:35
Darkkishzlodey lifting weights?08:35
geniixenol But it's so cute when it does the boingy boingy bounce :)08:35
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karmikazefirefox can be beautified, but at this point its not worth it as the thing crashes all the time in kubuntu08:36
zlodeykarmikaze ?08:36
xenolaha08:36
Darkkishi love the ff icon08:36
Darkkishi think you're insane08:36
karmikazeim sticking with konqueror til the bugs are smoothed out08:36
LBB2genii hda508:36
hazard_WHY IS THE UNIVERSE KEEPING ME TRAPPED IN THIS DORM?08:37
geniiLBB2 OK lemme think for a minute08:37
zlodeyhelp me08:37
Imrahilxenol chooses software based on the nicest icon. I wonder if he actually uses it or just looks at the icon all day08:37
hazard_lol08:37
__mikemhazard_ BECAUSE THE UNIVERSE HATES YOU08:37
hazard_hahahahahhahhaha08:37
xenol:D08:37
karmikaze???08:37
karmikaze???what with08:37
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hazard_well, I already kniew that.08:38
zlodeyhazard_ you lol08:38
karmikazelol08:38
hazard_But why _NOW_ all the tests are over, and I have no more drugs.08:38
hazard_(perscription)08:38
karmikazexenol, kde-look.org08:38
karmikaze:P08:38
karmikazeget some new icon sets or something08:38
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hazard_if I can't get out of here, tomarrow (and the day after) are probably not going to go well.08:38
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Darkkish!xfce08:39
Imrahilhazard_: going to celebrate christmas?08:39
ubotuXubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"08:39
xenolwell u said it FF is buggy and it crashes a lot08:39
geniiLBB2 And pls pastebin the original menu.lst so I can reexamine :)08:39
xenol!fluxbuntu08:39
ubotufluxbuntu is a LPAE-standard compliant, Ubuntu-based derivative that maintains the goal of running on a wide range of mobile devices and computers (low-end & high-end). It is lightweight, swift and efficient. | Support Channel: #fluxbuntu on freenode | Homepage: http://fluxbuntu.org/08:39
hazard_and since all my stuff is packed up, I'm BORED TO TEARS08:39
LBB2genii OK08:39
karmikazeoooh fluxubuntu08:39
karmikazelol awesome08:39
zlodeyhazard_ you lol08:40
hazard_Imrahil: yes. (in theory)08:40
Imrahildorms during holidays make baby jesus cry08:41
hazard_Assuming I ever find a concious RA, and I get word on weather or not I have a ride.08:41
geniianyone remember what default lvm /dev entry is?08:41
hazard_Imrahil: From experience?08:42
hazard_I should also note that have $.50, and no food.08:42
LBB2genii http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38270/08:42
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geniiLBB2 Thx brb08:43
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LBB2!brb08:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about brb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:43
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hazard_\nick hazard08:43
Darkkishlol08:43
Darkkishwrong /08:43
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Darkkishlol08:44
Darkkishtoday just might not be your day08:44
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hazard_cant_typethere we go.08:44
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hazard_cant_type(there were 5 additional attempts before I got 'nick' spelled right08:44
geniiLBB2 If you have hda2 mounted on /mnt/tmpboot again: please  ls -l /mnt/tmpboot/dev/mapper/system-root/*  and pastebin08:45
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geniibrb = Be Right Back08:45
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hazard2there, finally one remotely close to what I want that isn't already taken.08:46
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hazardxthat's actually better.08:47
geniiyes better than 2 at the end :)08:47
hazardxmy thougts exactly.08:47
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RealisticDragonlots of users on this network :)08:47
RealisticDragonis it bigger than DALnet yet?08:47
hazardxWoa! a Realistic Dragon!08:48
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Imrahilhazardx: actually I spent almost no time in my dorm room on account of my roomate leaving all manners of food around until it got stanky in there and was embarrasing to have people around08:48
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darkkish_hey i'm going to talk on my laptop08:48
darkkish_because i'm installing valve hammer editor on my desktop08:48
chupa-chups#python08:49
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geniime thinks about festvus ..err festival08:49
RealisticDragonwoo, freenode.net is now in the top 10 of networks (number 9)08:49
LBB2genii i dont there is no dev dir on my mounted hda208:49
RealisticDragongraph of IRC networks is here: http://irc.netsplit.de/networks/top10graphs.php08:49
vadoBonsoir tout le monde08:49
hazardxImrahil: Yea, my old roomate was like that (and he smoked,boozed and got high _ALOT_), and it was annoying finding M&Ms ALL OVER THE ROOM.08:49
Admiral_Chicago hmm, i just installed edgy and I can't get HTTP stuff to work08:49
darkkish_lol it works for me08:50
Admiral_ChicagoI am on IRC, but if I follow anykind of link, it does not repond08:50
RealisticDragonhave you got a HTTP proxy Admiral_Chicago?08:50
darkkish_i'm pretty sure this is edgy...08:50
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RealisticDragonyour network might need it, especially if its a college one08:50
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hazardxmy Kubuntu box here is RamLess, so yea, my HTTP dosen't work either.08:50
geniiLBB2 OK, thx. The root device in your menu.lst is described as /dev/mapper/system-root    but it looks like udev is doing it on the fly. This is where the drives/partitions that make up an lvm drive would be listed.08:50
Admiral_ChicagoRealisticDragon: not that I know of08:50
darkkish_RamLess?08:51
hazardxno ram.08:51
darkkish_... you can do that?08:51
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darkkish_that sounds realllllyyyyy craawwwlllliinnggg sloowww'08:51
Admiral_ChicagoRealisticDragon: I'm on the pppoe system at my house and it doesn't connect08:51
RealisticDragoni doubt ameritech has a proxy indeed08:51
hazardxNo, you can't, that's my point.08:51
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geniiLBB2 You *MAY* want to try the way we changed the partition type of hda2 before and put it to lvm type from linux type.08:51
hazardxno ram == no worky08:51
RealisticDragoncan you use https?08:51
Admiral_Chicagothere was a line i "plog" about some ARP roxy failing08:51
darkkish_lol oh08:52
Admiral_ChicagoRealisticDragon: let me try08:52
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g-hennahi everyone!08:52
Admiral_Chicagono08:52
karmikazehi!08:52
g-hennai have a very odd error with kaffeine on edgy08:52
hazardxhi karmikaze!08:52
darkkish_how do i change my default browser to FF?08:52
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g-hennawhen starting kaffeine, the window pops up, but doesn't fill with content, i.e. the user interface doesn't load. very odd: when i insert a dvd, i can play it with kmplayer, but not with kaffeine. actually... well, i can hear the sound, but the ui is frozen08:53
geniiLBB2 eg:   sudo fdisk /dev/hda   ..'t"  "2" lvm type change code here .... "w"     then try reboot again08:53
RealisticDragonprobably in system settings darkkish_08:53
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misaelhow do i run a .bin file?08:54
hazardxI KNOW! I'll play with SSH and see if I can get enough webtraffic going to make the VOIP phone at home stop working!08:54
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icheyneI'm having a nightmare with my nvidia card. I tried to install the nvidia beta drivers so I could get beryl working, but they caused a lot of flickering. I rolled everything back - even changing my xorg.conf back to the nv drivers, but I am still getting the flickering. Any solutions?08:54
misaelhow do i get it to execute08:54
karmikazedarkkish_: kcontrol > system administration > windows applications > applications08:54
geniiLBB2 8e is linux lvm code08:54
darkkish_thanks08:54
Admiral_ChicagoRealisticDragon: any ideas?08:54
misaelwhat do i have to write in the konsole?08:54
LBB2genii I'm not sure i understand you correct. my hda2 is formatted as ext2, do you want me to reformat it?08:54
misaelto run a bin file08:54
darkkish_karmikaze: are you running edgy?08:55
misaelto  make ut executable08:55
karmikazeyeah darkkish_08:55
geniiLBB2 No, do *NOT* reformat. I'll walk you thru it again08:55
hazardxicheyne: it sounds like your system just changed the refresh rate to something liess than 75hz (unless you don't have a CRT, in which case your flat panel is about to explode)08:55
karmikazeyou not have that option?08:55
darkkish_no its K~08:55
darkkish_er08:55
g-hennawhen using xine directly from xine-ui, this works fine, so there must be some problem with kaffeine and a kplayerpart or so08:55
misaelHOW DO  I RUN A .BIN FILE?08:55
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geniiLBB2 step1: umount /mnt/tmpboot08:55
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darkkish_karmikaze:  K > System Settings > Default Applications08:55
hazardxmisael: weren't you asking about this...yesterday?08:55
g-hennamisael: OPEN THE CONSOLE AND TYPE ./MYFILE:BIN08:55
icheynethanks hazardx but the change back to the nv drivers fixed my refresh rate and I'm back to 85htz.08:56
geniiLBB2 Step 2: sudo fdisk /dev/hda08:56
Admiral_Chicago!caps08:56
ubotuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.08:56
karmikazemisael: make sure you have permission to execute, chmod +x filename08:56
karmikazethen try08:56
LBB2genii my response was to two messages back . I do understand "sudo fdisk /dev/hda   ..'t"  "2" lvm type change code here .... "w"     then try reboot again"08:56
misaelok08:56
misaelthanks08:56
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karmikazesure darkkish_ :P08:56
g-hennaubotu: SIR, YESSIR! :-)08:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about SIR, YESSIR! :-) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:56
karmikazekcontrol somewhere ;)08:56
geniiLBB2 Sorry, tired :)08:56
Admiral_Chicagothat is a bot.08:56
g-henna*lol*08:56
karmikazebrb cookin08:56
LBB2genii i'm a bit slow typing08:56
hazardxlol @ g-henna08:56
hazardxerrr....so....hungry.... (karmikaze)08:57
LBB2genii what i meant was: I'm sure my hda2 should be ext2, thats how i formatted it when installing my last working system+grub08:57
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misaelit tells me that srcds_run.bin donot exist08:58
misael:s08:58
geniiLBB2 Using fdisk to change the partition type does not change what filesystem is on it08:58
Darkkishhey genii08:58
geniiLBB2 Or how it was formatted etc08:58
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geniiDarkkish Hey :)08:58
Darkkishdo i won't my desired default display manager to be gdm or kdm for xubuntu?08:58
LBB2genii but it does change the way it is being read, right?08:58
geniiLBB2 No. If that were the case you would not have been able to mount it previoulsly using mount -t ext2    when partition type was at Amoeba08:59
Darkkishdo i won't my desired default display manager to be gdm or kdm for xubuntu? genii08:59
LBB2genii i am able to mount it that way09:00
geniiDarkkish kdm :)09:00
hazardxI hope everyone in my physics class failed the final.09:00
Darkkishmk09:00
hazardx(becuase then I get a good grade)09:00
RealisticDragonDarkkish i think that gdm looks better :) and xubuntu already has gtk installed09:00
RealisticDragoni believe09:00
darkkish_to late.09:00
RealisticDragonbut it doesnt make a lot of difference really09:00
geniiLBB2 that is my point. If we change the partition type to lvm   you will still be able to mount it as before etc etc.09:01
geniiLBB2 Just that the lvm device driver will now see it as something to use in building a larger device as well (hopefully)09:02
LBB2genii i can mount it now as an ext2, so when i change it to lvm i wont be able to mount it right? confused:)09:02
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LBB2genii not saying i know better though, just avoiding miscommunication:)09:03
hazardxFINALLY, I HAVE WORD SOMEONE REMEMBERED I EXSIST!09:03
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hazardx(sorry about the yelling)09:03
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geniiLBB2 No matter what partition type is changed into, the actual partition itself will always be formatted with ext2 file system. so you will always be able to mount the thing by telling the mount command to understand the fs on it by  -t ext2 when you mount it09:04
darkkish_i hope installaing xubuntu won't screw up the look of my kde like gnome did09:04
darkkish_installing ugly programs to the menus09:04
geniifreebsd has a similar raid thing called vinum which is a pain as much as this lvm stuff :)09:05
hazardxdo you decide what to install based onthe same criteria as Xenos?09:05
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LBB2genii ok i still dont understand why i should set it to lvm, but i will do so anyway09:05
LBB2geni brb09:05
hazardx(that being how pretty the icon is)09:05
geniiLBB2 OK :)09:05
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darkkish_lmfao hazardx09:08
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g-hennahm, ok, installed xine, that works...09:09
g-hennabye then09:09
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CSonicGoanyone know why wine can't play Fury3 anymore? :(09:09
geniiLBB2 Ratinale for changing to lvm type: Some device drivers which use partitions like aid driver and lvm driver look at the oartition type to see if they should use this disk as part of their routine or not.09:09
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geniiraid driver not aid driver ...tired09:09
LBB2genii "Changed system type of partition 2 to 8e (Linux LVM)"09:10
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geniiLBB2 OK good :) Now need reboot to see if grub progresses etc09:10
TripleHey all, i have a question about hard drive speed. When i copy a large file from 1 HD to another the transfer rate is about 1.3 MB/sec for ATA 100 drives..... Is this a normal speed???09:11
LBB2genii you sure i'm not suppused to set hda5 instead of hda2? still confused...09:11
_kuja_Triple: that sounds excrutiatingly slow09:11
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TripleThen it is not just me :)09:11
TripleAny idea where i can look to make it better>09:12
Triple?09:12
_kuja_possibly hdparm09:12
geniiLBB2 Suppose you have /dev/lvm-thing  device.   if hda2 and hda5 are  lvm partition, you get  /dev/lvm-device/hda2   /dev/lvm-device/hda5    which is 2 small devices put together to make 1 large device09:12
_kuja_run hdparm -i /dev/<thedrivesdevicenode>09:12
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idawoodHello every one09:12
_kuja_Triple: that will tell you if dma is enabled, maybe it isn't09:13
_kuja_hello idawood09:13
TripleOk, lets see what it brings09:13
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idawood_kuja: can you tell me how I can change my default file manager09:13
hazardxyay! ride is here (in ~2minutes)09:13
hazardxlater all09:13
idawoodI want to use dolphin as default but also want to keep konqueror09:13
_kuja_erm, can't recall how it's done, I can look it up though I suppose09:14
hazardxpoor dolphins09:14
LBB2genii I'm off to reboot, maybe you can point me to a site with some more explanation when i'm back09:14
geniiLBB2 OK see you when you return09:14
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hazardxBye bye!09:15
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idawoodanybody esle can help?09:15
FragragHow do I run a .py file? I have Python installed09:15
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FragragWait idawood, I recall reading something about making something default, let me look it up09:16
_kuja_fragwood: python filename.py09:16
Lastkey0ok sure take the whole time in the world :P09:16
darkkish_restarting x09:16
darkkish_...09:17
darkkish_ctrl alt bckspce isn't working lol09:17
_kuja_or wait, fargrag09:17
darkkish_oh its not alt09:17
_kuja_darn09:17
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_kuja_where did that come from?09:17
TripleDMA modes:  mdma0 mdma1 mdma209:17
Triple * signifies the current active mode09:17
TripleThis meand DMA is not active right?09:17
max_can someone link me to the site that has the official ubuntu/kubuntu artwork?09:17
Lastkey0try www.kde-look.org09:18
Lastkey0and art.gnome.org09:18
_kuja_Triple: that is likely, run hdparm -d /dev/hd? to see the dma status of your drives, use -d1 to turn it on, use -d0 to turn it off09:18
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Tripleok....09:19
_kuja_idawood: this looks like it might do it - http://www.linuxactionshow.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=18109:19
Triplei'll be back with results :)09:19
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_kuja_Triple: before doing so, run hdparm -tT /dev/hd? to benchmark performance, then do it after if you want measurable results09:20
Lastkey0kuja:let me check09:20
Tripleok09:20
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rohanthe volume control keys in my laptop dont control amarok volume09:22
rohanknown problem ?09:22
Triplemartijn@nemesis:~$ sudo hdparm -tT /dev/hda09:23
_kuja_rohan, do they control system volume, by chance?09:23
Triple/dev/hda:09:23
Triple Timing cached reads:   736 MB in  2.06 seconds = 357.95 MB/sec09:23
Triple Timing buffered disk reads:    8 MB in  3.08 seconds =   2.59 MB/sec09:23
Triple/dev/hda:09:23
Triple Timing cached reads:   1336 MB in  2.00 seconds = 667.96 MB/sec09:23
Triple Timing buffered disk reads:   70 MB in  3.00 seconds =  23.30 MB/sec09:23
Triplemartijn@nemesis:~$09:23
matthew_genii, hey, can't believel you're still here...I just woke up....lol09:23
kkathmanrohan:  amarok has its own09:23
TripleWHOA!!09:23
Triplebetter!!09:23
rohankkathman: ouch, it does not 'obey' kmix ?09:23
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geniimatthew I'm helping LBB with grub still :)09:24
_kuja_Triple: better, but still slow :P09:24
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kkathmanon my keyb  its like the "windows" key + the minus (volume down), the plus (volume up), M (mute) etc09:24
_kuja_Triple: that change is NOT permanent, you still have a little work to be doing09:24
kkathmanrohan:  no it doesnt09:24
geniimatthew_ But I may soon have to sleep09:24
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kkathmanbut you can configure your own using the system settings09:24
TripleDo i have to put the commands in a startupscript somewhere?09:25
malik__can some one suggest if koffice is better than open office?09:25
_kuja_Triple: you have to put something /etc/hdparm.conf09:25
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Darkkishxubuntu is pretty nice on my laptop09:25
kkathmanrohan:  kcontrol->Regional&Accessibilty->Keyboard shortcuts09:25
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kkathmanmalik__:  its different09:26
malik__and what if i remove open office from edgy kubuntu n install koffice...........would it wreck the system or relatively should be okie>?09:26
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kkathmanthats all I can say.  Koffice is a bit less mature than open office09:26
matthew_genii, you are one tenacious son of a gun!09:26
Tripleok, have it open09:26
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geniimatthew_ :) I love a good puzzle09:27
kkathmanyou can remove open office just fine...but try both before you make that decision09:27
_kuja_something like:09:27
_kuja_/dev/hda {09:27
_kuja_        dma = on09:27
_kuja_}09:27
_kuja_spacing must be pretty exact, use tabs for the big gap on the dma = on line, there must be a space before the brace. Keep it exact or expect misbehavior09:27
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xenolkarmikaze how can i compress? in konsole with compress?09:27
rohanthanks, kkathman09:27
kkathmannp09:28
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malik__kkathman: that means i wud stick with open office ..............but would you any tweak about turning off the updates for open office?09:28
Darkkishlol open office has big ass buttons09:28
kkathmanmalik__:  well none other that I get from adept I reckon09:29
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matthew_genii, lol, that's why _I'm_ using KDE09:29
kkathmanKoffice has a nice graphical editor called Krita that might be worth taking a look at, tho...but as for the rest of the suite, I like OO personall09:29
LBBgenii It worked! thanks, now i only need to make sure i boot to the menu.lst instead of the grub> prompt and then i can go fix my original problem, wich is a broken mysql package (you said you loved a saga :) ).09:29
malik__kkathman: that means i ll have to download that 70 odd mb worth of updates they released today:)09:30
kkathmanyah I did that last night09:30
geniiLBB Cool cool :)09:30
kkathmanadept will let you know as long as you have those repos09:30
malik__doesnt that sux.........i mean i just updated it abt two wks ago with same amount of data09:30
Lastkey0NO luck :(09:30
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geniiLBB So you are not on livecd nut original system now?09:31
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geniibut not nut LOL09:32
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LBBgenii no, after manually typing part of my menu.lst into grub> the system halted on the line where it needs mysql (i broke that when i deinstalled apache because i needed space on my home)09:33
LBBgenii i mean space on my /boot09:33
geniiLBB Ah, OK ... i would try to help but I need sleep now :)09:33
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malik__okie one more question......................frostwire is better or amule/edonkey?09:33
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matthew_malik__, I prefer azureus09:34
malik__i have ktorrent09:34
LBBgenii: well thanks very much for your help so far and sleep well!09:34
malik__isnt azureus a torrent client?09:34
Darkkishl09:34
geniiI still like original bittorrent    azureus is nice but because totally in java can be a hog09:34
matthew_malik__, yes09:34
Darkkishazureus is the best09:34
fdovinggenii: did you try rtorrent?09:35
Darkkishi love it09:35
Darkkishsecond best is utorent09:35
geniifdoving No, not yet09:35
Darkkishwhich i think may have just developed a linux port09:35
malik__so basically we need bunch of torrent sites then to make it work , be it ktorrent or azureus?09:35
karmikazewho blang?09:35
fdovinggenii: it's a nice console based thing. i use it to seed the ubuntu cd and dvd images :)09:35
karmikazecompress09:35
matthew_malik__, naw, I like torrentspy.com or thepiratebay.corg09:35
matthew_.org09:35
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karmikazexenol is gone09:36
Lastkey0Can anybody help me how to change my default file manager in Kubuntu09:36
karmikazehrm09:36
geniifdoving cool, I'll check it out sometime09:36
malik__matthew: both of those are in ktorrent version in my distro09:36
geniiLBB Unless you need me for something immediate I need to sleep :)09:36
TripleOk! i copy at 8MB/sec now :) better ;) are there more tweaks for the HD?09:36
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malik__n i found ktorrent operation faster than any other client, atleast as compared to windows..........in terms of loading n navigating09:37
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malik__speed ofcourse is totally another issue09:38
LBBgenii: Like I said: thanks very much for your help so far and sleep well! I'll figure it out somehow:)09:38
geniimatthew_ , LBB et al  Have a good one and seeya later09:38
fdovingnite genii.09:38
pulla_princejoin #acro09:38
CSonicGooh wonerful, deb-src http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main doesn't work, the site is down! :(09:38
matthew_you too genii...oh, too late09:38
CSonicGonow I'm stuck :(09:39
Conorhello09:39
Conormatthew_: are yu availible to help?09:39
fdoving!ask09:39
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)09:39
karmikazehow do you install flash to konqueror?09:39
rohanhow does x.org know what to use ? "Configured Mouse" or "Touchpad" ?09:40
rohanhow does x.org know what to use ? "Configured Mouse" or "Touchpad" ?09:40
rohanoops, sorry09:40
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malik__flash-nonfree install that package09:40
matthew_Conor, nope, I'm leaving right now...my gf wants to go to the park.09:40
karmikazecheerrs malik__09:40
Conoris there someone here who can help me?09:40
fdoving!ask | conor09:40
ubotuconor: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)09:40
Conorhaha09:41
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uber_mortI'm glad ubotu allows piping :P09:41
karmikazeand redirection ;D09:41
uber_mortreally?09:41
Conorthe reason why I ask is because Im about to install kubuntu on a rather troublesome computer, and if something goes wrong, id like to have help09:42
karmikazeyeah i always used stuff like !flash >> karmikaze09:42
uber_mort!ask >> uber_mort09:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ask > - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:42
uber_mortnice :)09:42
murchadh_bhabaConor, Troublesome?09:42
uber_mortconor: I'm sure someone will be able to help you09:42
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malik__Conor: what kinda comp is that?//09:43
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Conorwell, its a good computer, fairly new, but the was some trouble related to we think the graphics card09:43
CSonicGo!wine09:43
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.09:43
malik__Conor: nvidia?09:43
Conorwe had to pass the line "acpi=off noapic nolapic" to get it to run the liveCD09:44
Conorno, ati09:44
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uber_mortconor: laptop or desktop?09:44
Conoractually, it might have been processor: a dual core09:44
Conorlaptop09:44
uber_mortlaptop displays are odd, I have to run in some funky modes to get the live CD booted too, but once installed things generally work fine09:45
Teslahello, ppl. i got a question. does anyone got a problem with konqueror frequent fails with segmentation on visiting pages?09:45
malik__Hmmm..........okie well try ur hand on it, see what happens n by that time hopefully Admiral_chicago or Jucato or some of the more exp guyz will be here09:45
wildchildhello trehe... I bought a new cooler for my CPU, and graphic card, and now I wanna see temepratures of those on screen ->is any program t oshow this?09:45
Conorokay, thanks uber_mort09:46
uber_mortwildchild there are system monitors though I can't remember the name...  I think its lmsensors or something like that09:46
Teslawildchild, try gkrellm package09:46
uber_mortno conor, and if you have problems I should be around for a while at least09:46
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Teslaso, does anyone have troubles with konqeror like me?09:47
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uber_morttesla I can't say that I do, but what do you mean "by on segmentation"09:47
uber_mortdo you mean that it gives you a segmentation fault?  Thats a fun error to deal with ;D09:47
malik__Tesla: segmentation?09:47
Lastkey0Tesla: What kind of trouble09:47
malik__!segmentation09:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about segmentation - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:48
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moody_#ubuntu-pl09:48
Teslauber_mort, konqeror crashes displaying SIGSEGV on some pages09:48
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Teslai'm using fresh default install of Kubuntu 6.1009:48
Teslai586 arch. not overclocked09:49
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Teslafor example it crashes on www.kaniv.net09:49
uber_mortTelsa: Though I may be wrong, but I think thats a segmentation fault, and generally means that you tried to reference a bad memory location (maybe paged out or something).  How much ram is in that beast?09:50
prophit_inccan anyone here recommend a program that will take snapshots at random from my camera?09:50
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prophit_incfor windows please....the guys in windows have no clue09:50
uber_mortprophit_inc: Picasa09:50
prophit_incok thank you09:50
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uber_mortprophit_inc: do you mean automatically use it like a webcam or take them off?09:50
Teslai got 320 MB of DIMM SDRAM PC100. memtest shown so problem and it worked perfect under MS Windows.09:50
uber_mortwhoops, oh well09:50
uber_mortDo cyrillic fonts work fine in other places?09:51
CSonicGorofl my dad is mad that his windows xp box has spyware all over it despite 4 anti-spyware programs09:51
CSonicGo:(09:51
Teslauber_mort, cyrillic fonts?09:51
CSonicGoit's sad really.09:51
malik__Tesla: working okie in my konqi09:51
uber_mortTesla: Russian, etc09:51
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uber_mortTesla: That site is in russian, no?09:52
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Teslai'm russian myself. yes. its all fine with russian here09:52
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Teslanot really. its in ukrainian. but its alike.09:52
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uber_mortTesla: Hehe, I just saw the letters.  I took a bit of russian but don't remember much of it at all ;)09:52
Teslauber_mort, my konqueror loads and displays page almost entirely. and than just disapears and KDE crash handler apears09:53
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uber_mortTesla: But anyway, if you haven't really installed anything or taken any time to customize and it wouldn't be a problem to reformat I might suggest you reinstall.09:53
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Teslabtw. i tryed installing my Kubuntu 6.10 on VMWare. the same problem exactly. and all the hardware is emulated there. how can this happens?09:54
Lastkey0Tesla:Update your distro09:54
CSonicGorussian, isn't all cryllic languages the same? or, very very similar?09:54
Lastkey0hopefully the update will correct your problem09:54
uber_mortTesla: Well, often times the error you're getting is caused when things are swapped out of memory and are then later referenced.  If you have too little RAM this could be a problem, or it could be something on that page that causes it.  Might I suggest trying a different browser to see if that works?09:55
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Teslauber_mort, as i said before i have a fresh install. and i did reinstalling many times already :-(09:55
TeslaCSonicGo, very similar. if you know russian it will be easy to learn any other cirylic one09:55
uber_mortTry apt-getting firefox and check if it works in there.  If so we can take it from there, though I don't know if I can help :(09:55
Lastkey0try adept manager or apt-get upgrade to update the system09:55
CSonicGooh ok09:56
CSonicGoI'm just french-english so it'll take some effort to learn russian but I've been wanting to for years09:56
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uber_mortI started, but my teacher was a bitch so I dropped it for gaelic :P09:57
uber_mortbut now I can talk like the irishman I am09:57
uber_mortso its all good :D09:57
Teslauber_mort, as i said i got 320 MB of perfectly working RAM and i have a 200 MB of swapping partition. FireFox does not work at all. it crashes with segmentation fault just on the startup09:57
CSonicGoI can fake scots09:57
CSonicGoheheh09:57
icheyneI installed a the 386 kernel, to use beryl, and now I do not need it any more. How do I remove it so that it does not show up on my grub boot list?09:57
uber_mortbut can you actually speak gaelic?09:57
CSonicGono :(09:57
uber_morttesla: That could be it right there.  It might be the small swap space.  Is there any chance you could expand that to like 512 or even a gb?09:58
CSonicGois it similar to latin? I've heard it is.09:58
Lastkey0Tesla: I said update your system. If you don't want to do that and just want to try another browser, you can try swiftfox09:58
uber_mortI don't think so09:58
uber_mortI can write some stuff if you'd like09:58
CSonicGoya I'd liek to "See" this language heh09:59
Lastkey0swiftfox is based on firfox but opitimized for diffrent processor architectures09:59
Teslasure i can do it. just need to reinstall. however top command shows that swap is not used at all. used 0 bytes. :-/09:59
uber_mortje parle un peu francais, mais gaeilge ne pas "similar"09:59
Lastkey0icheyne:you cantry apt-remove beryl09:59
CSonicGoaah09:59
icheynethanks Lastkey0 but I already did that09:59
uber_mortIrish: Dia dhuit, is mise Brian, agus d'ol me uisce beatha :)09:59
CSonicGoawesome10:00
uber_mortOr in other words, Hi, my name is Brian and I drank whiskey :P10:00
Teslaand the bad thing is that is too expencive for me to fully upgrage from inet. i pay for amount of transfered data.10:00
CSonicGohaha10:01
CSonicGoawesome10:01
CSonicGoI wonder what english (anglisc lol) will look like in 500 years10:01
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CSonicGomost say "about the same"10:01
Teslauber_mort, i also had tyed Opera. downloaded a .deb file form their official site specially designed for Edgy10:01
CSonicGosince that printing press and all10:02
faLUCEHi. is there an unofficial repo with mplayer1.x ?10:02
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Teslaopera behaves the same way as konqeror10:02
Nontitlelook at how much english has changed in 20 years10:02
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uber_mortTesla: That could be the whole memory issue, thats why I suggest the swap space10:02
Nontitleif konqueror worked with the gecko engine, then i would be happy10:02
hazard_English has changed? (I realize i'm speaking russian)10:02
CSonicGoNontitle: good point10:02
Lastkey0Icheyne: you can edit grub file to not to show the beryl if you just don't want to see it in the list10:02
uber_mortTesla: Opera and firefox have larger memory footprints than konqueror and could be why they crash almost right off the bat10:02
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karmikazei cant view the dominos menu in konqueror :'(10:03
icheyneoh yes? But it regenerates automatically?10:03
CSonicGohazard_: supposedly, but you never ever NOTICE10:03
hazard_oh, right, forgot about that.10:03
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icheyneLastkey0, oh yes? But it regenerates automatically?10:03
CSonicGobut looking at stuff from the 1800s you can see10:03
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CSonicGoyou can see a big "Difference" it's really weird10:03
Teslauber_mort, in fact opera starts good for me. and i'm able to run firefox with -ProfileManager swich so i got a window from it. but no more10:03
hazard_karmikaze: get that wireless working?10:04
karmikazenah hazard_ it doesnt like my router or something10:04
karmikazeif i change to wep, or wpa or open10:04
karmikazewont connect10:04
uber_mortTesla: Hmmmm again that goes to support my theorey...  when pages are rendered they start eating memory, and without enough swap space you're gonna have problems10:04
hazard_Toldta, that Montana guy strikes again!10:04
uber_mortCSonicGo: Tu parle francais?10:05
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Teslauber_mort, i do not doubt that you want to help me, thank you. but swap area is absolutly not in use when i just booted and started konqeror. do you really think its all about small swap?10:05
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Lastkey0I don't think so it will be regenerated again10:05
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Lastkey0I just have the the idea, I can't tell you the method to edit it10:05
Lastkey0you can check on google or other linux forums for the help on grub editing10:05
icheynedoes anyone know if I can remove a kernel from the /boot menu so it does not automatically regenerate with grub?10:06
icheynethanks Lastkey0 I am reading the wiki now10:06
uber_mortTesla: Thats the only thing that I can think of honestly.  Other than some problem with hardware, but you said the memtest worked.  I highly doubt that its problems with the programs...  maybe its a page swapping algorithm problem?  Maybe your TLB has a problem with it?10:06
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Lastkey0icheyne: try this "more /boot/grub/menu.lst"10:07
uber_mortTesla: If your TLB was broken though you'd probably have more problems than just browsers10:07
Conorhey, I think I got it!10:07
Teslauber_mort, however i thik i'll try to reinstall my system with making swap 1GB. if everything will be fine i'll be back in a half an hour10:07
Lastkey0you can use vi editor, gedit or kate to edit10:07
Lastkey0but be very careful while editing10:07
uber_mortTesla: I'll be here, good luck10:07
icheynethanks Lastkey0 it doesn't answer my last question though10:07
Teslauber_mort, can you explain what is a TLB please?10:07
icheyneLastkey0, if I can remove the kernel from /boot that might save me the aggro10:08
darkkish_i'm making counterstrike maps10:08
darkkish_fun fujn10:08
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uber_mortTesla: Translation look aside buffer.  It translates virtual memory, and if it were broken you'd get errors like you're getting, though you'd be getting them with EVERYTHING and probably wouldn't even be able to boot/run for more than a few minutes10:08
Lastkey0I'm not sure but may be there could be some disastrous results with removing the kernel10:08
uber_mortTesla: Translates virtual memory addresses to physical mem addresses rather.10:09
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Lastkey0If you are booting with someother kernel there won't be any problem with the kernel you want to remove10:09
icheyneLastkey0, I have two in there. I just wanted to move one that I did nto need and regenerate my grub menu10:09
Lastkey0just edit the grub to not to see it in the list10:09
lorenzo_rciao a tutti10:09
icheyneaha thanks Lastkey010:09
LjL!it | lorenzo_r10:09
ubotulorenzo_r: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!10:09
lorenzo_rsorry10:09
lorenzo_rok thanks10:10
Teslauber_mort, i dont think i have TBL broken. everything exept browsers runs perfect and stable for several day a row.10:10
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uber_mortTesla: Yah, I couldn't imagine the TLB breaking and still letting you run anything at all.  So like I said, swap space is the only thing I can think of.  If things don't work after the resize then maybe someone else will have a better idea.10:10
Teslauber_mort, in fact the only browser works good for me is Dillo. i'm forced to use it to surf ubuntu forums. btw that didnt solved my problem :-(10:11
uber_mortTesla: You increased swap space already?10:11
Teslauber_mort, no, i'm still here in my kubunto. i have to reboot at least :-) so, i'm gone for reinstall. thank you so much.10:12
uber_mortTesla: Dillo is small: source is less than 420 KB, and the binary is around  350 KB!10:12
uber_mortTesla: Again, supports my theorey10:12
uber_mortok guys moving places, be back in a bit, you stay classy #Kubuntu10:12
cloakableuber_mort: And you can enable tabs in the Ubuntu source code :)10:13
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uber_mort??  Enable tabs?10:14
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uber_mortbe back10:14
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Conorhey, whats the easiest way to install, say firefox, on my new kubuntu install10:16
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lupine_85Conor: sudo apt-get install firefox10:16
lupine_85terminal is faster than GUI :p10:16
Conorhaha10:17
lupine_85If you want GUI, though, Adept is the package manager10:17
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Conorlupine_85: Apparently adept is doing a lot of updating right now10:17
lupine_85but you have to wait for it to load up information about /all/ the packages before you can install one10:17
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thevanyone know why when I set up the Nvidia driver xorg works fine until I reboot, and then I have to reinstall and start xorg manually?10:17
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karmikazeim having nvidia trouble too10:18
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karmikazethe sudo enable never works for me10:18
darkkish_xubuntu is fine but i think KDE is pretty nice10:18
lupine_85thev: howe did you install the driver?10:18
karmikazesays to check if i have nvidia-kernel which i do10:18
thevlupine_85 - downloaded it from nvidia10:19
lupine_85karmikaze: you could just edit xorg.conf manually10:19
lupine_85it's a straight "nv" -> "nvidia" change10:19
thevsh nvidia.run and it builds and installs it10:19
lupine_85thev: the drivers in linux-restricted-modules conflict with it10:19
lupine_85which version do you have installed? 9631? 9742?10:19
karmikazeive got10:19
thevuhh... newest from nvidia10:19
karmikaze2.6.17-19-generic10:20
thevlupine_85 perhaps I can just unistall all the other drivers?10:20
lupine_85they've got two newest: newest stable and newest beta :p10:20
thevstable10:20
lupine_85thev: you could do. Better would be to install the latest from an unofficial repo10:20
karmikazeis there a repo for that?10:20
lupine_85yeah10:20
lupine_85see http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/10:20
karmikazecheers10:20
lupine_85np :)10:20
thevthanks lupine10:20
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lupine_85uninstall the manual one first, though10:21
lupine_85the installer takes a --uninstall flag that will do the trick10:21
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karmikazeok thanks10:21
Conorif Im still waiting for adept to update, can I use apt-get to install something, or do I have to wait for adept to update?10:22
CSonicGoaugh stupid router10:22
Conorare adept and apt-get different?10:22
karmikazeno Conor10:22
karmikazeyou have to wait10:22
lupine_85you can only run one package manager at a time10:22
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Conoroh10:23
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darkkish_mythbusters10:26
darkkish_oooo10:26
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faLUCEHi. is there an unofficial repo with mplayer1.x ?10:26
RealisticDragonan old version? you might be able to get it out of ubuntu 5.something repositories10:27
RealisticDragonim not sure if itll work on edgy because of the dependancies though10:27
RealisticDragonor is it a new version :o10:27
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RealisticDragontoo many packages to keep track of :P10:28
lupine_851.x is new I think :)10:28
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Imrahilwhich kde applications have names which are spelled correctly in German? Konsole I know for sure, but I thought there were others10:28
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RealisticDragonthey should make everyone use ubuntus version system :D10:28
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Linux_GalorefaLUCE: deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy multiverse10:28
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bizaHow can i exit the X server and work completely in console mode ??10:29
Linux_GalorefaLUCE: you can google for the debian ones10:30
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Linux_GalorefaLUCE: they have a habbit of shifting around10:30
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faLUCELinux_Galore: it's not the 1.x version and it gives me a "break" msg in adept10:31
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RealisticDragonbiza: press ctrl alt f1 (ctrl alt f7 will get you back)10:31
bizathanks!10:31
RealisticDragonif you want to totally quit it then log out, you can quit X from the menu there10:31
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Linux_GalorefaLUCE: aah could mean you have an old version of kaffeine or something10:32
RealisticDragonor you can start/stop X on the command line with /etc/init.d/x1-common10:32
RealisticDragon:)10:32
faLUCELinux_Galore: what I have to do?10:32
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RealisticDragonbrb10:32
Linux_GalorefaLUCE: our your sources list is mixing ubuntu versions10:32
julian__hi10:32
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julian__newbie braucht hilfe ;)10:32
Linux_GalorefaLUCE: I cant say Im not in front of your machine10:32
julian__wer will mir helfen10:32
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julian__hilfe?!10:33
seanhm10:33
Linux_GalorefaLUCE: check your sources and make sure they are not mixed up10:33
LjL!de | julian__10:33
ubotujulian__: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de10:33
Linux_GalorefaLUCE: I have no issues with mplayer installs10:33
faLUCELinux_Galore: do you mean compiled source codes?10:34
faLUCELinux_Galore: do you mean compiled (by me) source codes?10:34
seantrying to figure out how to make a partition so i can keep all my files and stuff on one partition, and the os on the other, so that when i update it only removes the os partition and not the one with my files on.10:34
Linux_GalorefaLUCE: no I just grab the mplayer package that setup for my version of ubuntu10:34
faLUCELinux_Galore: when you say: check your sources.... what do you mean?10:35
Linux_GalorefaLUCE: if your getting "break" it means you either havent updated properly or you have mixed sources10:35
faLUCEsource codes compiled by me?10:35
tim__anyone know how to get ktorrent scheduler working? i loaded it but doesnt stop torrents.10:35
seananyone know how?10:35
Linux_GalorefaLUCE: sources.list  is a file that contains were your system gets all it packages10:35
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Linux_GalorefaLUCE: you can access it from within the adept package manager10:36
faLUCEAh, I see10:36
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faLUCEI'm seeing it10:36
Linux_GalorefaLUCE: you can add and remove and update the sources list from within adept10:36
Linux_GalorefaLUCE: judt be aware of what servers your adding because they may cause breaks10:37
Linux_Galorejust*10:37
faLUCELinux_Galore: do you think it's the best way, since if I remove repos from the sources, and I start with one repo, I can see the broken relations?10:38
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Linux_GalorefaLUCE: well what I do is use the official repo's (see ubuntu online details) that way i never have these issues10:38
faLUCEI see10:38
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Linux_Galorerepo = package repository (server)10:39
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TripleIve been trying some options in hdparm to speed up my hard drives, (Ultra ATA 133) but i cant get it past  Timing cached reads:   1488 MB in  2.00 seconds = 743.95 MB/sec10:39
Triple Timing buffered disk reads:   88 MB in  3.08 seconds =  28.57 MB/sec10:39
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Linux_GalorefaLUCE: mplayer is on the ubuntu servers10:39
TripleAnybody have an idea to speed it up?10:39
Linux_GalorefaLUCE: you may have to use a debian server to get some of the codecs10:40
joostKonversation is messed up10:40
Linux_GalorefaLUCE: for legal reason10:40
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joost(on ubuntu edgy)10:40
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lupine_85joost: using it here and it works fine10:40
Linux_Galorejoost: works fine here10:40
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joostthe server list window stays open, and its buttons are missing10:41
RealisticDragonhm which port does apt use by default? anyone know?10:41
Linux_Galorejoost: remove and reainstall the package10:41
RealisticDragonim being throttled to 3kb/sec which is no fun10:41
lupine_85RealisticDragon: none by default10:41
joostill do10:41
faLUCELinux_Galore: i have removed all the repos from my list and leaved only deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy multiverse. but when i try to install mplayer it says "broke" again10:41
joostother thing id like to mention is mounting smbfs drives10:42
RealisticDragonlupine_85: apt must use some port to get data :o10:42
lupine_85it uses a random high port like any other HTTP/FTP client10:42
joostthere is a bug causing HAL to crash10:42
lupine_85it connects to 23/80 depending on the service running on the remote server10:42
RealisticDragonhttp uses 80 by default, no? got your point about ftp though10:42
Linux_GalorefaLUCE: as I said Im not on your machine so i cant back trace were its broken10:42
joosti got the workaround allright, but the bug is in there al long time] 10:42
fdovingRealisticDragon: 80, yes.10:42
joosti noticed feisty still having it10:42
Linux_GalorefaLUCE: also you dont have to remove evrything because just having one repo wont allow you to install mplayer anyway10:43
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WooDHi ! I have reinstall Ubuntu and lost all addons for Firefox.... and now I need a emulator of Internet explorer into firefox any of you know which addon do this ? I cant remember the one I had10:43
joostsmbfs -> noauto10:43
Linux_GalorefaLUCE: the mplayer stuff is spread out a bit10:43
faLUCEi see10:43
faLUCELinux_Galore: thanks anyway10:43
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Linux_GalorefaLUCE: mplayer isnt a single all in one package10:43
kkathmanWooD:   I remember there are several, but dont remember the names - Google should help tho10:44
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faLUCELinux_Galore: for suse it is10:44
Linux_GalorefaLUCE: no not even on suse10:44
faLUCEbut for suse there's the 1.x version....10:44
snook353what do i use to move data from one desktop to my laptop?10:44
faLUCEi can't find it for kubuntu10:44
RealisticDragonWooD: you want an IE skin?10:45
kkathmanyeah there is for SUSE but only in the backports I believe10:45
RealisticDragonWooD: or something that emulates quirks mode?10:45
kkathmanwhy do you want the back version10:45
lenscape_I'm getting "Permission denied" trying to access nfs shares when I don't think I should. Server is Kubuntu. Client is Suse10:45
snook353windows98 to kubuntu10:45
Linux_GalorefaLUCE: there is a package on suse called mplayer but when you trigger it to install it will also download about another 9 packages10:45
RealisticDragonsnook353: i like fish:// for KDE/konqueror :)10:45
faLUCELinux_Galore: i know this10:45
RealisticDragonor, w98 :o10:45
faLUCEbut I want to do the same for10:45
snook353thanks, realisticdragon10:45
lupine_85fish:// ++10:45
faLUCEkubuntu:)10:45
faLUCEand I can't!10:45
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RealisticDragonsnook353: fish is for linux to linux10:45
kkathmanno need for mplayer on kubuntu or SUSE tho10:45
snook353oh :(10:46
max_does anyone know when KDE4 is going to be released?10:46
kkathmanuse kaffeine10:46
Nontitlei don't really like fish://, it's the same as ssh and sftp, but it adds an unneeded file10:46
Linux_GalorefaLUCE: yes but you have a broken dep problem, basically you have to remove something10:46
snook353ah10:46
lupine_85RealisticDragon: there is a program that lets you bind ssh to drives in windows10:46
RealisticDragonWooD: http://themes.mozdev.org/themes/ie.html is this what you want?10:46
faLUCELinux_Galore: do you mean some installed package?10:46
lupine_85forget what it's called though10:46
RealisticDragonnifty lupine_85:)10:46
kkathmanif you need mplayer for your browser, install the mplayerplug-in instead10:46
lupine_85sftpdrive or something10:46
Linux_GalorefaLUCE: if you look at the mplayer packafe details in adept it should show you what dependencies it has10:46
kkathmanit doesnt install a bunch of dependencies10:47
faLUCELinux_Galore: i can see the broken dependencies but10:47
faLUCEwhat's the next action?10:47
lenscape_anyone using kubuntu as an nfs server?10:47
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lenscape_other than setting up 'exports' is anything else required?10:48
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Linux_GalorefaLUCE: Im finding it strange you have a broken dep because there should be none of your using the official repo, I suspect you have a bad update or incomplete10:48
Linux_Galoreif*10:48
kkathmancourse that's firefox2 - something weird10:48
max_kkathman: i have 3.31 and mine works in FF10:48
faLUCELinux_Galore: let's try an update10:48
kkathmanmax_:  go to CNN.com and see if you can see their videos10:49
kkathmanor BBC10:49
max_k10:49
lenscape_seems to be a lot broken in kubuntu10:49
kkathmancuz I cant using 3.31 and FF210:49
kkathmanI could with FF 1.5.0.6 + mplayerplug-in 3.2510:49
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max_i have 3.31 and FF210:49
max_SUSE SUCKS10:49
lenscape_max_ but it works10:50
kkathmanSUSE doesnt suck.. please dont start that :(10:50
max_lol10:50
kkathmanmax_:  can you see the videos there?10:50
max_its loading now10:50
kkathmanok10:50
faLUCELinux_Galore: the update (as well as upgrade) functions of adept don't work10:50
max_ya i can see um kkathman10:50
lupine_85SuSE-- :p10:50
kkathmanhmm10:50
Linux_Galoreplease not distro wars, just makes us look pathetic10:50
lupine_85lol10:50
kkathmanmax_:  I need your help then :)10:50
lupine_85OK, ok. Novell-----------------10:50
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Linux_GalorefaLUCE: have you added all the repo's back10:51
kkathmanmine just bring up the player, then it says "stopped"10:51
lenscape_does kubuntu need extra set-up to get nfs server working?10:51
faLUCELinux_Galore: yes10:51
Linux_GalorefaLUCE: make sure each repo has the same name ie dapper or edgy10:51
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uber_mortHey all, back10:51
snook353if i get a male/male usb cable, do i need any software to move files from windows machine to kubuntu machine?10:51
max_kkathman: i had that problem, it cleared itself up. but while i had it i right clicked, clicked play, then right clicked and told it full screen10:51
Linux_GalorefaLUCE: but not both they should all have the same name10:51
faLUCELinux_Galore: would you like to see my source.list?10:52
kkathmanmax_:  hmm I dont understand it10:52
lupine_85snook353: everything you need will be in the repos10:52
fdovinglenscape_: yes. https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/serverguide/C/network-file-system.html10:52
kkathmanI have installed and reinstalled it10:52
lupine_85essentially it's a null modem cable10:52
max_kkathman: i did too10:52
snook353ok, i'll see what happens10:52
Linux_GalorefaLUCE: sure10:52
faLUCELinux_Galore: thanks10:52
max_kkathman: it finnally stopped doin it, but see if what i said works10:52
lupine_85so you'd create a TCP/IP link over it and transfer files as if it were a normal link10:52
faLUCEwould you like it pasted on http://rafb.net/paste/ ?10:52
Linux_GalorefaLUCE: doesnt bother me10:53
faLUCEok wait a sec10:53
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lenscape_fdoving: Thanks. That was brilliant. All working now.10:54
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taikisanhi10:54
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Conorhow do I find out how much space I have left on my hard drive?10:54
lenscape_Conor: df -h10:55
kkathmanmax_:  ok.. now tell me again what you did10:55
taikisanhi, how can i install the kdelook themes in kubuntu?10:55
Linux_Galore!pastebin10:55
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)10:55
faLUCELinux_Galore: http://rafb.net/p/IL5o0w35.html10:55
max_kkathman:  i right clicked, clicked play, then right clicked and told it full screen10:56
Linux_GalorefaLUCE: you have mixed a sources lis thats why its broken10:56
Linux_Galorelist*10:56
Linux_Galoreyour either edy or dapper not both10:56
Linux_Galoreedgy*10:56
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faLUCEah, I see10:56
faLUCElet's correct it10:57
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Linux_GalorefaLUCE: let me give you mine then you will see10:57
xenol!quanta10:57
ubotuquanta: web development environment for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 2361 kB, installed size 5700 kB10:57
xenol!nvu10:57
ubotunvu: Complete Web Authoring System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0final-2ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 8373 kB, installed size 26448 kB10:57
xenolfor web development wat is better? nvu or quanta?10:57
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RealisticDragondepends what kind xenol, im not really a big fan of that kind of stuff10:58
RealisticDragoni use drupal + inkscape + vim10:58
faLUCELinux_Galore: ok10:58
RealisticDragonbut the right tool really depends on the job you want to do10:58
kkathmanmax_:  that didnt work10:58
kkathmanmax_:  when I look in my settings, the wm* says "windows media player" but other things say "mplayerplugin 3.31"10:59
Linux_GalorefaLUCE: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38280/10:59
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kkathmanI need to be able to change those in firefox, but dont know how10:59
Linux_GalorefaLUCE: Ive also set it up as a text view so you can just copy the file to /etc/apt/sources.list10:59
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faLUCELinux_Galore: let's try11:00
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Linux_GalorefaLUCE: have to update your system, it may take a while because now all the packages are edgy11:01
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Linux_GalorefaLUCE: some are very new ie koffice11:02
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faLUCELinux_Galore: i changed the source.list but11:02
Linux_GalorefaLUCE: if you ntice I have a special entry for koffice and amarok11:02
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faLUCEit still uses the old one11:02
faLUCE(adept)11:03
Linux_GalorefaLUCE: yeah you may have to reboot11:03
faLUCEI see11:03
faLUCElemmi try11:03
Linux_GalorefaLUCE: or make adept update11:03
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Linux_Galorehmm I really need to clean up my sources file11:05
faLUCEwell i have to reboot11:05
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Conoris kdevelop a good ide?  How do I install it?11:07
chxhow could I switch off Kopete's sounds? It's VERY, VERY annoying and I found nothing in settings11:07
RealisticDragontwo friends, /exit and /quit sitting in a garden... /exit goes away, who is still there?11:07
bobbydConor: it's ok, it's not as slick as .NET but it's functional11:07
bobbydConor: apt-get install kdevelop311:07
Conorthat didnt work.11:08
RealisticDragonif you want something more like .NET then java/eclipse is probably as close as you will get :)11:08
Conorisnt .net a microsoft product?11:08
bobbydConor: Yes11:08
RealisticDragonyes it is11:08
Conorokay11:08
fdovingchx: system settings -> notifications -> select kopete in the drop-down list. then make your modifications.11:08
bobbydConor: I'm just saying that if you're used to that KDevelop isn't as slick, especially for debugging11:08
bobbydConor: Eclipse is actually pretty good, if a bit fat and slow11:09
ConorE: Couldnt find package kdevelop311:09
Conorhmm...11:09
RealisticDragoneclipse is for java11:09
ConorId like to try both11:09
chxfdoving: this is somewhat windows-esque, why kopete sounds are not in kopete...?11:09
RealisticDragonkdevelop is for C/C++11:09
bobbydRealisticDragon: it has C++ plugins11:09
Conoris eclipse writen in java?11:09
RealisticDragonah, cool11:09
Conoroh I see11:09
bobbydConor: yes11:09
fdovingchx: because knotify handles notifications.11:09
bobbydRealisticDragon: eclise has some pretty cool tools11:09
bobbydConor: what version of kubuntu are you on?11:10
Conorokay.  Does it fold code?  Im a little addicted to that11:10
Conor6.1011:10
bobbydConor: Kdevelop does11:10
RealisticDragonConor: i use vim for code folding, know exactly what you mean :D11:10
Conorbut eclipse?11:10
fdovingchx: most applications have a 'Configure notifications..' in their settings menu, though. (it leads to the same settings dialog)11:10
MisfitI want to partition my HDD, one small partition (10-20gb?) for the OS, and then the other partition being the rest of the space on the HDD, for my apps and stuff. Any ideas/reccommendations?11:10
bobbydConor: it should be there then, you might need to enable all the repositories in adept11:10
TheGateKeeperConor, another one to consider: http://anjuta.sourceforge.net/screen-shots11:10
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bobbydConor: kdevelop and eclipse both do it, as does kde's text editor, KATE11:11
Conorvim folds code?  that is the most ridiculusly advanced non-gui ever11:11
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faLUCELinux_Galore: nothing done11:11
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faLUCEadept still links an old source list11:11
bobbydTheGateKeeper: I've found Anjunta pretty flaky11:11
chxfdoving: oh. so we have configure program which has multiple tabs and then we have separate configurations for some other stuff. confusing. but yes, can be learned.11:11
Teslauber_mort: i'm here again.11:11
RealisticDragontheres a eclipse plugin for code folding11:11
uber_mortTesla: Aww :(  No go?11:11
faLUCEI think it's time to reinstall adept11:11
Linux_GalorefaLUCE: means you havent replaces the /etc/apt/sources.list  file11:11
Teslauber_mort: unfortunaly it didnt helped11:11
Linux_Galorereplaced*11:11
uber_mortTesla: I'm sorry :(  I really don't know what else it could be11:12
lmhey can anybody tell me, how i would go about doing desktop sharing from my xp machine without vnc (cause i use kde)?11:12
faLUCELinux_Galore: i've replaced them11:12
fdovingchx: it's not separate configs. it's just that you can modify stuff from multiple places. like you can have more than one door to a room. etc.11:12
Linux_GalorefaLUCE: type  sudo cat /etc/apt/sources.list11:12
Teslauber_mort: BUT i found out an interesting thing. if i disable javascript and java it is stable :-)11:12
TheGateKeeperbobbyd, I have never actually used it, someone suggested it & it looks nice, that's about as much as I know11:12
uber_mortTesla: Oh?  Thats quite odd...   I wonder why your system doesn't like javascript.11:12
faLUCELinux_Galore: already inspected it11:12
bobbydTheGateKeeper: kept crashing on me11:12
faLUCELinux_Galore: it contains your source11:13
lmhey anybody11:13
Teslayeah, i'm surprised too11:13
Linux_GalorefaLUCE: adept should show the same11:13
TheGateKeeperbobbyd, not good11:13
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bobbydTheGateKeeper: I find for real work the integration of the debugger is the thing that kills most linux IDEs11:13
kcinnahas anyone had problems with flac support in amarok?11:13
Linux_GalorefaLUCE: run apt-get update11:13
faLUCELinux_Galore: mybe some files are corrupted and adept see some garbaged files11:13
Linux_Galoresudo apt-get update11:13
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The_Machinei start evolution -- icon bounces, and nothing comes up.  Why does KDE hate me?11:14
bobbydfor instance, kdevelop won't remember the expansions you had last time you ran your code, so you spend a lot of time just clicking on stuff11:14
The_Machinewhat can i do to bring it up without having to restart KDE?11:14
bobbydThe_Machine: alt-space, type konsole, type evolution, hit enter11:14
bobbydhit enter after konsole11:14
TheGateKeeperbobbyd, well that is bad news as I am used to a good debugger, having said that VS version 7.1 has gone backwards11:15
The_Machinewow.11:15
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The_Machinethat is so FREAKING cool.11:15
bobbydTheGateKeeper: is that 2005?11:15
The_Machine(the alt-space thing)11:15
The_Machineheh11:15
TheDebugger7.1 is 200311:15
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TheDebugger8.0 is 200511:15
The_Machineit isn't doing anything.  Just sitting there.11:15
faLUCELinux_Galore: I have to reboot again11:16
fdoving!katapult | the_machine11:16
ubotuthe_machine: katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.11:16
TheDebugger2003 and 2005 are really nice, you can see the content of an stdlib container by hovering the var with the cursor11:16
The_Machinei've been using alt+F211:16
The_Machinebut alt+space11:16
TheGateKeeperbobbyd, nope 2003, we still need to modify our code so it will compile in 200511:16
The_Machineis great :)11:16
The_Machinebobbyd: next step?11:16
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bobbydTheGateKeeper: we're moving to 2K5 after christmas11:17
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fdovingThe_Machine: katapult doesn't support commands yet though.. only things already in the menu. that sucks.11:17
bobbydThe_Machine: when you have a konsole, run evolution but typing "evolution" and hit enter11:17
The_Machinei did, bobbyd.  It just sits there.  THe cursor just did a CR..11:18
The_Machineand just a block box..  nothing is happening.11:18
The_Machine(in the terminal)11:18
bobbydmaybe it's screwed then :)11:18
The_Machinehaha11:18
The_Machinethis is why i asked :)11:18
bobbyddo "tail /var/log/syslog"11:18
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bobbydsee if that tells you anything11:18
fdovingi doubt evolution logs to syslog.11:19
The_Machinewell.  ewl.11:19
Imrahilanyone know what happened to katapult's page it disappeared11:19
fdovingmight get better evolution-specific help in #ubuntu11:19
The_Machineno, but "kernel: [17356094.684000]  rtc: lost some interrupts a                                 t 2048Hz." is bothersome.11:19
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The_Machinefdoving: well, i was generally looking for help with how to recover KDE apps11:19
faLUCELinux_Galore: no results11:19
The_Machinebecause this was happening with amarok for a while11:19
The_Machinei was lauching them and they were just dissapearing..11:20
faLUCEapt-get is linked to the old list too11:20
The_Machinejust curious how to recover from that without having to reload the window manager11:20
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faLUCELinux_Galore: look at  /etc/apt: there's a backup bin file11:21
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The_Machineheh11:22
The_Machineokay11:22
The_Machineall of KDE just dissapeared11:22
The_Machinebut i have a terminal up..  how do i "run" kde again - without restarting KDE?11:22
The_Machinelike, the window manager - -11:22
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wildchildwhat's the replacement for command dpkg?11:23
TheDebuggerstartke?11:23
TheGateKeeperbobbyd, we are moving to 2005 (version 8) soon, when people have time to do what is necessary11:23
TheDebuggerstartkde?11:23
The_Machine"KDE already seems to be running on this display"11:23
The_Machineheh11:23
The_Machinecrap.11:23
TheDebuggerTheGateKeeper: What's wrong with 2k3?11:24
fdovingThe_Machine: 'kicker &'11:24
The_Machineyes!11:24
faLUCELinux_Galore: well now11:24
faLUCEit works11:24
faLUCEI'm updating the list11:24
wildchilddpkg unkonwn command..11:24
The_MachineThat was it :)11:24
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TheDebuggerThe_Machine: Just restart X.. Ctrl+Shift+Backspace11:24
wildchildI use edgy11:24
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darkkish_hey i have a question11:24
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The_MachineTheDebugger: couldn't, was in the middle of an operation.  Kicker & worked!11:24
fdoving!ask | darkkish_11:24
ubotudarkkish_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)11:24
darkkish_i knew that was coming11:25
The_Machinethanks fdoving :) :) :)11:25
darkkish_lol11:25
fdovingyou're welcome the_machine.11:25
darkkish_i was getting there11:25
Motorheadhai11:25
Linux_GalorefaLUCE: ok, I have to leave , lots of luck and a Merry Xmas11:25
darkkish_ok so11:25
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darkkish_depending on what desktop i'm on (one out of four)11:25
Linux_Galorekarma Points +111:25
darkkish_can it only show the tasks of that one desktop11:26
darkkish_like xubuntu does11:26
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bobbydTheGateKeeper: The engine we're using is moving to 2K5 so we have no choice :)11:26
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faLUCEwhat a gentle boy:)11:26
CSonicGohaha, I eat karma for dinner11:26
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CSonicGothat's why I don't have any.11:26
bobbydTheGateKeeper: but we get compilation on multiple cores, so that's a bonus11:26
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darkkish_like i have 6 windows open over 4 desktops11:26
TheGateKeeperTheDebugger, well one of it's annoying habits when you try to step into code it comes with some stupid dialog saying it can only show disassemble code11:27
fdovingdarkkish_: yes. you can.11:27
darkkish_fdoving: cool how?11:27
TheDebuggerTheDebugger: I think 2k5 is not as stable as 2003 though..11:27
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TheDebuggerI had some crashes and problems with intellisense11:27
Hawkwinddarkkish_: Right click on the taskbar and go to preferences/configure and there is an option there for it11:28
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Hawkwinddarkkish_: You want it to show only apps for the current desktop11:28
darkkish_yes11:28
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darkkish_hey Hawkwind i remember you11:28
HawkwindThat was a statement, not a question 11:28
darkkish_haha11:28
darkkish_do you remember me Hawkwind?11:28
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Hawkwinddarkkish_: Kind of.  I see so many people in a day though sometimes I don't remember everyone11:29
darkkish_wine11:29
darkkish_WoW and Wine11:29
HawkwindAh yeah11:29
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fdovingdarkkish_: if your panel is locked unlock it. then rightclick on the handler (dotted line just in front of the list of tasks/windows).. then select 'Configure tasklist.. ' or something similar (translated on the fly) then.. do as hawkwind just said. de-select 'show apps from all desks'..11:29
bobbyddarkkish: cedega11:29
darkkish_thats exactly what i wanted!11:30
darkkish_thank you11:30
darkkish_i love you guys11:30
darkkish_bobbyd: i got wow running fine i just couldn't get sound11:30
darkkish_and cedega didn't fix the problem11:30
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brendan_hi, i read in a bug report, that gam_server was being replaced in kubuntu11:30
brendan_is this true, and what is it being replaced with?11:30
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darkkish_is there a show desktop button in KDE?11:37
lupine_85yep11:38
lupine_85it's an applet IIRC11:38
darkkish_aha fiound it :) thanks11:38
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MisfitI want to partition my HDD, one small partition (10-20gb?) for the OS, and then the other partition being the rest of the space on the HDD, for my apps and stuff. Any ideas/reccommendations?11:39
darkkish_my panel is getting kind of big and lacking space for apps11:39
darkkish_what can i do about that?11:40
fdovingbrendan_: is it? i think some time it was discuessed to drop it completely for kde-things. not sure how that discussion ended though.11:40
Hawkwinddarkkish_: Create a new panel11:40
darkkish_how?11:40
Hawkwinddarkkish_: Right click on the current panel and there is an option to create new panels11:40
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fdovingyou can also use the quickstarter (or whatever it's called in english) applet.. to make your launcher buttons smaller.11:42
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fdovingquick launcher, that is in english.11:42
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darkkish_now my mouse is acting up...11:43
darkkish_its stuck going down unless i move it up (its the eraser style laptop mouse thing)11:43
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darkkish_i can't fix it11:44
darkkish_what do i do11:44
fdovingdarkkish_: those can do that to you. I had a dell with that problem.. ended up hitting it hard a few times.. sometimes hepled.. but it's not good for the HD.11:45
fdovingget a usb mouse and disbale the thing.. or something.11:45
Teslauber_mort: may i wonder what version of Kubunto you have and how you got it? (CD/DVD/inet upgrade)11:45
darkkish_wierd i did ctrl alt excape or w/e (never clicked on anything) seems to befine now11:45
MisfitIs there a program I can use to partition my HDD?11:45
darkkish_somethinig in adept Misfit11:45
darkkish_kpart or something like that11:46
lupine_85qparted11:47
darkkish_yeah that11:47
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darkkish_>_>11:47
darkkish_um so11:47
CSonicGoanyone know how to set up a unix share that is open to all linux boxes?11:47
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CSonicGoI just want to transfer a file, it's very difficult to with samba, is it easier with Unix?11:48
rancewhere do i go to configure the cd autoloader?11:48
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darkkish_oops11:53
fdovingCSonicGo: you can try https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/serverguide/C/network-file-system.html11:53
CSonicGoalright11:54
darkkish_shit11:55
CSonicGowhat what11:55
darkkish_i just killed... what ever that thing is11:55
CSonicGodid you break something? :-(11:55
darkkish_the kmenu11:55
darkkish_how do i get it back?11:55
CSonicGorun "kicker"11:55
darkkish_yay thanks11:55
darkkish_lol11:55
CSonicGook dudes are there any XMAS themes or something for Kubuntu? I wanna decorate the desktop, nyo?11:56
CSonicGoheh.11:56
darkkish_now how do i shut off kasbar?11:56
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darkkish_?11:57
CSonicGowell there is task manager :)11:58
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darkkish_but shouldn't there jsut be a way to shut it off?11:58
soulriderdoes anyone know how to open a CHM file ?11:58
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towynchello11:59
towyncanyone know what local.conf is for, and where i can find it + edit it?11:59
darkkish_are there any programs like kasbar (but better)?11:59
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towync!kasbar11:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kasbar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:00
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towyncdarkkish kooldock and kxdocker work?12:00
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darkkish_maybe i'll try that thaniks12:00
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towyncdarkkish what's kasbar12:01
towyncdarkkish i went to the site it was confusing lol12:01
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endo602Hello.  How can I convert .iso to .avi?12:01
endo602Hello.  What program do I use?12:02
darkkish_...12:02
darkkish_iso is an img file12:02
endo602i know12:02
endo602its a vcd12:02
darkkish_if you mount it you might be able to pull a file out of it12:02
darkkish_but basically an iso is like a zip12:02
endo602what program do i mount it with?12:02
darkkish_idk12:02
darkkish_idk12:02
darkkish_i don't think it swhat i'm looking for TowerKeeper12:02
darkkish_er towy12:03
darkkish_or not xd12:03
endo602Darkkish, what program will pull the file out?12:04
adz21ckiso12:04
darkkish_idk12:04
endo602cant find idk package12:04
CSonicGohaha, I got doom to play in Kubuntu! :D12:04
darkkish_...12:04
darkkish_i mean i have no idea12:04
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endo602ohhhh12:05
endo602sorry12:05
endo602newb12:05
darkkish_i am not framilliar with linux eqivelents12:05
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endo602oh ok12:05
endo602thanks anyways12:05
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Tangrimbonjour12:06
adz21cendo602: kiso can open iso files to get at them12:06
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darkkish_adz21c: do you know what kasbar is?12:06
endo602adz21c, what can i use to convert the mpeg to .avi?12:07
adz21cnot that i can think of ... gimmie a clue and it may job my memory, sounds familiar12:07
adz21cendo602: mencoder or ffmpeg12:07
rancewhen kubuntu detects a sound card at boot, and loads modules, what file do I have to edit to change the kernel parameters passed to the module at command line12:08
soulriderrance: grub ?12:08
mzliHow can I disable utc time? anyone help me?12:08
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adz21cendo602: infact if u mount the iso u can follow tutorials for online for using mencoder to copy vcd's/dvds to avi's :)12:08
ranceyou can pass module loading options to grup at boot like "snd_via82xx dxs_level 112:09
endo602adz21c, its a bin fiile12:09
mzliI've set /etc/default/rcS utc=no ,But each restarting will change my time again.12:09
endo602can i convert it?12:09
adz21cendo602: i think u can but i can't remember how, i never used a bin file under linux12:10
fdovingnite.12:10
adz21cendo602: installl bchunk12:11
wildchildcan someone please tell me what's the kubntu syntax for dpkg ?12:11
adz21cendo602: that converts bins to iso's12:11
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adz21cendo602: http://www.jonhoweonline.com/blog/node/8212:11
mzliwildchild: man dpkg12:11
wildchildk12:11
wildchildonly problem is12:11
endo602thanks12:11
wildchildI can't do this12:12
wildchildcouse I am in nongraphic mode12:12
wildchildsinec I made somthing wrong in display settings..12:12
wildchildsince?12:12
wildchild*12:12
mzliwildchild: man needn't gui.12:12
wildchildso there is some kind of command that reconfigure those settings..12:12
darkkish_does anyone use kasbar?12:12
wildchildxorg.conf12:12
wildchildand in this command is "dpkg"..12:13

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