| BenC | fabbione: Not sure if the ones that have built-in firewire can boot from sbp2 or not | 12:35 |
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| BenC | fabbione: Actually, I think it is possible...I remember my Blade 100 had sbp2 support in firmware | 12:36 |
| fabbione | BenC: hmmm | 12:36 |
| fabbione | BenC: ok.. people can file bugs.. for now i am happy to support scsi/ide/sbus | 12:36 |
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| zul | good luck | 02:13 |
| bronson | BenC: what are your -updates trees? Are they a place to stage patches before merging into the dist tree? | 02:22 |
| bronson | i.e. patches are baked in ubuntu-edgy-updates.git, then pulled into ubuntu-edgy.git when it's time to release a new kernel? | 02:23 |
| BenC | bronson: They are in -updates, and supposed to be put into -proposed where the get tested before inclusion in the main tree | 02:48 |
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| bronson | BenC: so, if I want to keep my linux-vserver kernel on top of Edgy development, I should periodically rebase it on top of -updates. That way, when you do build a new kernel, my derivative kernel will be pretty much ready to go? | 03:09 |
| bronson | or.. maybe I should track -proposed? | 03:09 |
| BenC | keep it on edgy proper | 03:10 |
| BenC | -updates can be broken at any time | 03:10 |
| bronson | Ah good. OK, will do. | 03:10 |
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| gnomefreak | BenC: are you here? initramfs-tools was unable to overwrite | 12:50 |
| gnomefreak | is it safe to force the overwrite like i would with any other package? | 12:50 |
| gnomefreak | btw no its not its missing depends (seems to be a bunch of crap that is stopping it | 12:55 |
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| fabbione | BenC: davem has a firewire device here.. we will get the OBP mapping today | 02:45 |
| fabbione | he also thinks we can boot from it | 02:45 |
| fabbione | but only if the device is plugged in at poweron | 02:45 |
| BenC | fabbione: Yeah, I think I tested that a loooong time ago | 02:45 |
| BenC | I'm pretty sure you can, if you have the latest OBP for the box | 02:46 |
| BenC | fabbione: Write my name on that firewire drive too, so dave remembers where it came from :) | 02:46 |
| fabbione | ahaha | 02:46 |
| fabbione | it's just a shell script to parse the obppath sysfs attribute really | 02:47 |
| fabbione | did you try booting your e3k with the new patched? | 02:47 |
| fabbione | patches | 02:47 |
| fabbione | find /sys -name "obppath*" | 02:47 |
| BenC | not yet, I'll give it a try later | 02:50 |
| fabbione | ok | 02:50 |
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| maks_ | BenC thanks for the merge | 03:33 |
| maks_ | i seem to have posted my review of your changes to the wrong channel, will recap | 03:34 |
| maks_ | * check_minkver() lives in hook-functions you should have it twice now | 03:35 |
| maks_ | * +rm -f /etc/initramfs-tools/modules is doubled in postrm | 03:35 |
| maks_ | * ubuntu used to use busybox mount for nfs | 03:36 |
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| BenC | maks_: Ah, thanks | 04:49 |
| kylem | BenC, i merged my -updates and the dapper security stuff, what do you think of a -proposed upload? | 05:08 |
| BenC | kylem: I'll look at it in just a couple of minutes | 05:10 |
| BenC | maks_: Can you merge the s/Build-Depends/Build-Depends-Indep/ change? | 05:15 |
| BenC | maks_: And if you could add " | busybox-initramfs" to the depends, that would fix all the debian/control merges | 05:16 |
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| maks_ | BenC remind me why is the s/Build-Depends/Build-Depends-Indep/ needed? | 05:18 |
| maks_ | yes i'll add that to the depends list | 05:19 |
| BenC | maks_: Because initramfs-tools is binary-indep, so the build-depends are actuallt for the binary-indep portion of the build | 05:19 |
| BenC | On the Ubuntu build, we only upload source | 05:19 |
| BenC | so the binary-indep portion gets built on i386 | 05:19 |
| BenC | in order for the buildd to process that correctly, the build-deps need to reflect reality | 05:20 |
| maks_ | ok, thanks for the info | 05:20 |
| BenC | maks_: One other question I had was the {-q,-Qb} modprobe inconsistencies we have | 05:21 |
| BenC | I think the -b makes it respect modprobe.d blacklists | 05:21 |
| maks_ | debian modprobe didn't have that arg irc | 05:21 |
| BenC | and the -Q makes it quiet about ignoring a blacklisted module (which -q wont do) | 05:21 |
| BenC | the man page doesn't show it, but "modprobe -h" will show it | 05:22 |
| maks_ | no it's not there | 05:22 |
| BenC | it has to be, unless you guys have a super old modprobe | 05:22 |
| BenC | what version of module-init-tools? | 05:22 |
| maks_ | ii module-init-to 3.3-pre3-1 | 05:23 |
| BenC | is it -Q or -b that it doesn't have? | 05:23 |
| maks_ | -Q | 05:23 |
| BenC | ah, right, it's an ubuntu patch it seems | 05:24 |
| BenC | maybe -qb then | 05:24 |
| maks_ | ok | 05:24 |
| BenC | the -b is the important part, because users need to be able to blacklist modules and have initramfs scripts respect that (e.g. for the case of buggy force loaded modules) | 05:24 |
| maks_ | fully agreed | 05:25 |
| BenC | maybe you could just export one MODPROBE_OPTIONS in /init | 05:25 |
| BenC | modprobe will respect it, and that'll localize any changes we have to make for -Q | 05:26 |
| BenC | maks_: In scripts/init-top/framebuffer, the VESA and SPLASH vars aren't used anywhere...I thought it was a leftover Ubuntu patch, but it's in your source | 05:30 |
| maks_ | # Set modprobe env | 05:31 |
| maks_ | MODPROBE_OPTIONS="-qb" | 05:31 |
| maks_ | export ${MODPROBE_OPTIONS} | 05:31 |
| maks_ | BenC: indeed, kick those | 05:32 |
| BenC | maks_: Just uploaded ubuntu4 with the changes you mentioned, thanks. | 05:33 |
| maks_ | cool i get the diff, i'm monitoring :) | 05:34 |
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| maks_ | BenC: the discussed changes on my side are in 0.85f, need to push 0.85e first into testing | 05:43 |
| maks_ | * debian/control: Change Build-depends-indep to Build-depends as we need | 05:46 |
| maks_ | debhelper and cdbs for the clean target, fulfills policy 7.6. | 05:46 |
| maks_ | so | 05:48 |
| maks_ | not sure if i want to pick that up | 05:48 |
| BenC | hmm | 05:53 |
| fabbione | BenC: get ready for ubuntu5 ? :) | 05:53 |
| BenC | fabbione: Might just be 0.85fubuntu1 :) | 05:54 |
| fabbione | ehe | 05:55 |
| BenC | ubuntu5 uploaded...glad this isn't a heave package to build | 05:56 |
| BenC | heavy | 05:56 |
| fabbione | BenC: are we sure it doesn't have lvm or mdadm stuff? | 05:57 |
| BenC | it has an mdrun that only gets used if mdadm isn't also there | 05:58 |
| Mithrandir | BenC: fubuntu < ubuntu. :-P | 05:58 |
| fabbione | hmmm | 05:59 |
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| BenC | fabbione: you asked me to remove it :P | 06:00 |
| BenC | I don't have any machines with a lvm/md root to test | 06:00 |
| fabbione | lvm is ok.. must go | 06:00 |
| fabbione | i am not sure what that mdrun can do without mdadm installed | 06:00 |
| fabbione | i guess i will have to clean up that clusterfuck when i am back in january | 06:01 |
| fabbione | and the first guy that's gonna complain about the abuse of the word clusterfuck will get to solve all the mess | 06:01 |
| BenC | fabbione: it runs if there is no local-top/mdadm, but it exects mdadm binary to be present if raid is required | 06:02 |
| fabbione | ok, then it's totally useless :P | 06:02 |
| fabbione | once you install mdadm you get local-top/mdadm :) | 06:02 |
| BenC | probably debian/ubuntu friendly | 06:03 |
| fabbione | probably | 06:04 |
| fabbione | or probably due to lack of communication between the 3 developers that can't agree on where these scripts should exists | 06:04 |
| BenC | maks_: Am I correct that the resume stuff in initramfs supports suspend2? | 06:04 |
| fabbione | because our mdadm is the same as debian | 06:04 |
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| zul | yeah so one of the managers here at work changed the locks fo the server room without telling us | 06:49 |
| kylem | i think that means you're fired | 06:49 |
| kylem | or evicted | 06:49 |
| zul | yay... just after i got my stock options | 06:50 |
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| maks_ | fabbione, BenC: the mdrun hook is for partial upgrades from sarge -> etch, where you have initramfs-tools but not yet the new mdadm | 07:50 |
| fabbione | maks_: kthx.. BenC we can kill it.. we don't support partial upgrades anyway | 07:50 |
| maks_ | yes there should be some code in mkinitramfs that can go as well | 07:51 |
| maks_ | maraked as to be removed after the etch release | 07:51 |
| maks_ | BenC: afaik suspend2 has it's own i-t boot hook, but i might be wrong never used that crap | 07:52 |
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