| gouki | irssistats does a couple more, and I'm interested in going further with it (expand monitoring capabilities), but if someone else is doing it, I should help out, instead of starting fresh (= | 12:14 |
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| gouki | adding top 5 ubotu request, for example | 12:15 |
| gouki | *requests | 12:15 |
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| ianm_ | sistpoty: ok, I added them both, hopefully correctly | 12:22 |
| sistpoty | thx ianm_ | 12:23 |
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| theCore | nice... Mark Pilgrim is "recommending" checkinstall | 12:33 |
| theCore | I think I got a package to do tonight | 12:33 |
| LaserJock | theCore: where? | 12:34 |
| theCore | http://diveintomark.org/archives/2006/12/18/supertux-milestone-19 | 12:34 |
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| LaserJock | theCore: seems reasonable, although I think it would be good to just distribute a .deb | 12:36 |
| LaserJock | sistpoty: awesome, thanks for sending the email | 12:37 |
| sistpoty | LaserJock: np ;) | 12:37 |
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| sistpoty | ;) | 12:38 |
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| Burgwork | imbrandon: you delivering unto me ebox or do I need to intall it myself | 12:40 |
| theCore | LaserJock: do you still use planner-el? | 12:46 |
| LaserJock | theCore: not a bunch, I just haven't been using emacs a whole lot | 12:54 |
| theCore | LaserJock: ah, well | 12:54 |
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| LaserJock | theCore: I might get back into it a little bit in the future | 12:54 |
| theCore | LaserJock: then you should check out this mode http://staff.science.uva.nl/~dominik/Tools/org/ | 12:55 |
| geser | is it ok when a package sets the homedir of a system user to /var/run? | 12:56 |
| sistpoty | geser: seems like it, at least from looking at /etc/passwd | 12:57 |
| geser | in my /etc/passwd I have only those with a subdir in /var/run | 12:58 |
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| geser | sistpoty: I'm not quite sure if the change to postinst in http://librarian.launchpad.net/5474087/pidentd_76127.diff is ok | 01:00 |
| sistpoty | geser: is it for a merge or a bug? | 01:00 |
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| geser | sistpoty: it's for bug 74968 | 01:01 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 74968 in pidentd "Unable to write pid file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/74968 | 01:01 |
| geser | pidentd is started through inetd and has no init script | 01:01 |
| sistpoty | geser: without testing it actually, the fix *looks* fine for me | 01:02 |
| geser | it looks fine to me also but I'm note quite sure with the homedir as /var/run is used by different programs | 01:04 |
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| sistpoty | geser: /var/run is used by different programs. probably a cleaner fix would be to look through the source where the pid-file is stored and change this (or is it done via inetd?) | 01:06 |
| geser | it is done via inetd | 01:06 |
| sistpoty | geser: the pid-thingy itself? or just started via inetd | 01:07 |
| mr_pouit | sistpoty: thanks for dopi and klavaro reviews :) | 01:08 |
| sistpoty | mr_pouit: thanks for your contributions ;) | 01:09 |
| mr_pouit | np :) | 01:09 |
| ajmitch | sarah! :) | 01:09 |
| Hobbsee | hey ajmitch :) | 01:10 |
| mr_pouit | sistpoty: I have one question about sru : how many acks are needed ? 3 or 5 or ... ? | 01:10 |
| sistpoty | mr_pouit: 3 (we are only 4 people ;) | 01:10 |
| sistpoty | hi Hobbsee | 01:10 |
| mr_pouit | ok | 01:10 |
| sistpoty | geser: probably that would be a better fix: src/pidentd.h:#define PATH_PIDFILE "/var/run/identd/identd.pid | 01:10 |
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| sistpoty | geser: (that's where the pid-file path is defined in pidentd, as far as I've seen it now) | 01:11 |
| geser | yes, I wanted to also fix the remaining mentions of /var/run/identd | 01:11 |
| Hobbsee | hey sistpoty | 01:12 |
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| geser | pidentd itself gets started through inetd | 01:12 |
| geser | I only don't know if "adduser --quiet --system --home /var/run identd" is ok, especially the choice of the homedir | 01:14 |
| ajmitch | sistpoty: I thought there were 5 of you :) | 01:17 |
| sistpoty | geser: imo it shouldn't be a problem... maybe ajmitch can verfiy that ;) | 01:18 |
| sistpoty | ajmitch: member No. 5 is just the secret watching member ;) | 01:18 |
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| ajmitch | sistpoty: oh I see :) | 01:20 |
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| sistpoty | ajmitch: the simple question geser wants to know if a daemon can have its homedir in /var/run itself? | 01:21 |
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| ajmitch | afaik it can | 01:21 |
| Lathiat | lathiat@dargo:~$ cat /etc/passwd|grep /var/run|wc -l | 01:21 |
| Lathiat | 6 | 01:21 |
| sistpoty | hi Lathiat | 01:21 |
| Lathiat | howdy | 01:21 |
| sistpoty | (but as in directly /var/run, not in a subdir) | 01:22 |
| geser | Lathiat: those are subdirs of /var/run and not /var/run itself | 01:22 |
| geser | sistpoty: thanks. If nobody says don't do it I will use that patch to use /var/run instead of /var/run/identd | 01:25 |
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| sistpoty | geser: do it ;) | 01:25 |
| Lathiat | ohh, /var/run itself | 01:26 |
| Lathiat | right, that seems a bit odd | 01:27 |
| ajmitch | plenty of programs put stuff directly in /var/run | 01:28 |
| theCore | Hobbsee: ping | 01:31 |
| Hobbsee | theCore: heya | 01:31 |
| Lathiat | ajmitch: hrm, so they do | 01:32 |
| theCore | Hobbsee: I trying to package the new version of supertux | 01:32 |
| theCore | Hobbsee: but it seems to use Jam instead of Make | 01:33 |
| Lathiat | woo, supertux | 01:33 |
| ryanakca | how would I fix "W: solseek: package-name-doesnt-match-sonames solseek-panelapplet " ? | 01:33 |
| ryanakca | Hobbsee: Teg? | 01:33 |
| theCore | Hobbsee: What should I change in debian/rules to make it use Jam? $(MAKE)? | 01:33 |
| Hobbsee | ryanakca: risk clone | 01:35 |
| ryanakca | no, I was wondering if you wanted to have a game... | 01:35 |
| Hobbsee | theCore: i *dont* know - but there/s a new version? COOL! | 01:35 |
| ryanakca | but tony's server is down :( | 01:35 |
| Hobbsee | ryanakca: usually yes, at the moment, no | 01:36 |
| theCore | Hobbsee: hehe | 01:36 |
| ryanakca | "Error while trying to connect to server 'yarusso.no-ip.org' at port 2000" "net_listen:: Connection refused" | 01:36 |
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| theCore | ok, then I will go for the Q&D way | 01:36 |
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| sistpoty | theCore: jam is a make replacement, just use jam instead of $(MAKE) | 01:39 |
| theCore | sistpoty: can I just do MAKE = jam? | 01:40 |
| theCore | or this is "illegal" | 01:40 |
| sistpoty | theCore: it's not illegal, but very very ugly to look at... | 01:40 |
| theCore | hehe | 01:40 |
| theCore | ok then | 01:41 |
| sistpoty | theCore: because it's not clear from the beginning, that it's not make that you call but jam instead ;) | 01:41 |
| theCore | s/$(MAKE)/jam/ | 01:41 |
| sistpoty | better :) | 01:41 |
| sistpoty | ryanakca: for solseek: it puts shared objects to /usr/lib... but is no library. | 01:42 |
| sistpoty | ryanakca: if these shared objects are used only by solseek, they should reside in /usr/lib/solseek instead | 01:43 |
| ryanakca | sistpoty: ok... and I fix that by... | 01:43 |
| ryanakca | ah, so patch it or something? | 01:43 |
| ryanakca | or add "mkdir /usr/lib/solseek && mv /usr/lib/solseek_panelapple.so /usr/lib/solseek/" to rules/postinst? | 01:44 |
| sistpoty | ryanakca: but it looks a little bit like these should really belong to somewhere else (for what is this solseek_panelapplet.so good for?) | 01:44 |
| sistpoty | ryanakca: postinst would be completely wrong ;) | 01:44 |
| ryanakca | sistpoty: no clue... lemme check | 01:44 |
| sistpoty | ryanakca: and if move it only in rules, I guess the shared objects aren't found any longer | 01:45 |
| ryanakca | and then run ldconfig afterwards? | 01:45 |
| ryanakca | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3824 | 01:46 |
| sistpoty | ryanakca: I'd rather make configure do that for you... I'm quite sure it's one parameter e.g. --libdir or s.th,. | 01:46 |
| theCore | -> Considering jam (>= 2.5) | 01:46 |
| theCore | W: Unable to locate package jam | 01:46 |
| theCore | bizarre | 01:46 |
| sistpoty | theCore: pbuilder up to date? | 01:47 |
| theCore | % apt-cache show jam | grep Version | 01:47 |
| theCore | Version: 2.5rel-1 | 01:47 |
| theCore | maybe ... | 01:47 |
| theCore | ahh, I only got the main component | 01:48 |
| Hobbsee | theCore: poke me if you dont get that uploaded, and i'll look into it | 01:48 |
| theCore | Hobbsee: ok | 01:48 |
| theCore | yay, it's building | 01:56 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 01:56 |
| theCore | error.... | 01:58 |
| theCore | libvorbis missing | 01:58 |
| theCore | not too bad | 01:58 |
| Hobbsee | b-d on libvorbis-dev | 01:58 |
| theCore | try #2 | 01:59 |
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| theCore | I really need a way to find dependencies that build, check, update, build, check ... | 02:00 |
| theCore | s/that/than | 02:00 |
| theCore | there was a Perl hack somewhere in the maint-guide | 02:01 |
| theCore | but the dependencies created were awful | 02:01 |
| theCore | yay, it passed configure! | 02:02 |
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| theCore | ok, almost | 02:05 |
| theCore | Hobbsee: do why debian/rules is copying the files manually (with cp) instead of using `make install'? | 02:07 |
| sebest | is there a way to remove empty dir from a package? | 02:09 |
| sistpoty | sebest: rmdir in debian/rules should do the trick | 02:12 |
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| sebest | sistpoty: should i do this at the end of the install target? | 02:13 |
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| sistpoty | sebest: after the directory is created, and before the debian package gets build... in short: yes | 02:13 |
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| sebest | sistpoty: thx | 02:15 |
| sistpoty | np | 02:15 |
| Lathiat | sebest! | 02:16 |
| sebest | Lathiat ! :) | 02:17 |
| sebest | what's up? | 02:17 |
| Hobbsee | theCore: i'm not sure. i believe it's deliberate though | 02:18 |
| theCore | ahh | 02:18 |
| theCore | I got it | 02:18 |
| theCore | (I hope) | 02:18 |
| Lathiat | sebest: nm, hows about you? | 02:19 |
| Lathiat | thanks for fixing that bug :> | 02:19 |
| agent | i created a python module deb that is supposed to work with with python > 1.5 and was tested with many different versions, including 2.2, by the mod author - yet it only works with 2.5 and not 2.4 on my system.. what can be wrong? | 02:19 |
| sebest | Lathiat: it was really annoying :) | 02:19 |
| Lathiat | yeh, was :) | 02:20 |
| sistpoty | agent: what does it do with 2.4? spit out a backtrace? | 02:20 |
| sebest | i read that avahi will be enabled by default, great | 02:20 |
| agent | sistpoty: i cannot import it | 02:20 |
| Lathiat | sebest: in feisty, yeh | 02:20 |
| Lathiat | woo hoo ;) | 02:20 |
| Lathiat | 0.6.16 is coming out shortlyish | 02:20 |
| agent | sistpoty: my guess its a path problem | 02:21 |
| sistpoty | agent: probably... or it was built only for 2.5 and not for 2.4 | 02:21 |
| agent | sistpoty: but usr/lib/python2.4 and usr/lib/python2.5 both have the exact same files installed... the rest is in /usr/share/python-support/ | 02:22 |
| agent | sistpoty: could it still be the case that it was built only for 2.5? | 02:22 |
| sistpoty | agent: hm... then it *should* really work imo... | 02:22 |
| sistpoty | agent: are you build-depending on python-all-dev? | 02:22 |
| agent | sistpoty: yes | 02:22 |
| agent | sistpoty: should i try 2.4 only? | 02:23 |
| Hobbsee | theCore: gotten supertux done yet? | 02:23 |
| theCore | Hobbsee: I am finishing it | 02:23 |
| agent | sistpoty: then again, if i do 2.4 only it won't build the module for 2.5... hrm | 02:23 |
| sebest | Lathiat: do you know something about update-menus? | 02:23 |
| Lathiat | not a thing ;) | 02:23 |
| Hobbsee | theCore: yay :) | 02:24 |
| Lathiat | sorry | 02:24 |
| sistpoty | agent: python-all-dev will draw in 2.4 and 2.5, so that shouldn't be the problem | 02:24 |
| agent | sistpoty: yeah... i endedup installing 2.5 because of that :) | 02:24 |
| sistpoty | agent: and it does work wrt with 2.5? and not with 2.4 though the files are the same? | 02:25 |
| agent | sistpoty: i just don't get it... all the files that really count are version number agnostic in terms of directory structure since its all in /usr/share/python-support | 02:25 |
| agent | sistpoty: yes, that is correct | 02:25 |
| LaserJock | sistpoty! | 02:26 |
| sistpoty | LaserJock ? | 02:26 |
| LaserJock | you da man :-) | 02:26 |
| sistpoty | hehe | 02:26 |
| agent | sistpoty: well, looking at the dir structure more closely, usr/lib/python2.*/ are populated exactly the same, but they are empty of files - they just have dirs.. all python files are in usr/share/python-support/ | 02:26 |
| sistpoty | agent: do you call dh_pythonsupport (or whatever that is called nowadays *g*) in debian/rules? | 02:26 |
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| sebest | is it possible to comment on REVU even if i'm not a reviewer? | 02:27 |
| theCore | does Feisty will have Python 2.5 by default? | 02:28 |
| sistpoty | sebest: just pm me your comment, I'll add it | 02:28 |
| agent | sistpoty: dh_pysupport and dh_python are called | 02:28 |
| sistpoty | theCore: seems like it | 02:28 |
| theCore | \o/ | 02:28 |
| sebest | sistpoty: i wanted to comment on one of my upload | 02:28 |
| sistpoty | sebest: you can always do that ;) | 02:28 |
| sistpoty | (if you can get to your password) | 02:29 |
| sebest | sistpoty: that's what i'm missing :) | 02:29 |
| sistpoty | agent: have them in debian/rules? | 02:29 |
| sistpoty | sebest: does the recover password thingy work? | 02:29 |
| agent | sistpoty: yes... i think without that nothing would build :) | 02:29 |
| theCore | Hobbsee: done | 02:30 |
| sistpoty | agent: well, haven't made through the python-transition myself, so I cannot tell this ;) | 02:30 |
| sistpoty | agent: sorry, I have no more clues w.o. looking at the package. can you put it somewhere? | 02:30 |
| sebest | sistpoty: that's what i was looking for, but there is non on the homepage, does it only appear on failed login? | 02:31 |
| Hobbsee | theCore: yay :) | 02:31 |
| Hobbsee | does it work? | 02:31 |
| sistpoty | sebest: yep... just enter anything in the password field ;) | 02:31 |
| theCore | Hobbsee: I am testing it | 02:31 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 02:32 |
| agent | sistpoty: i think i know whats wrong actually... crazy python install scripts look in control file which itself looks for python version somehow (dunno how) and somewhere there is a communication mistake where only 2.5 is shown... although i still do not understand how 2.4 dirs are created :/ | 02:32 |
| agent | sistpoty: it calls pyversion -r | 02:33 |
| agent | sistpoty: (the install script) to get python avail versions | 02:33 |
| sistpoty | agent: ah, I knew there was some magic with the pyhton-versions from control file involved, but as I said, I didn't dive too deep into it | 02:34 |
| agent | can someone run pyversions -r in their terminal and tell me if it works or errors with "error parsing Python-Version attribute" | 02:34 |
| sistpoty | same here | 02:36 |
| sistpoty | sebest: do you want an answer via mail or right here? (/me == daemon@poleboy.de= | 02:37 |
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| sebest | ah ok | 02:37 |
| sebest | sistpoty: i rewrote the package with debhelper | 02:37 |
| sistpoty | nice | 02:37 |
| sebest | but about the licence , yes you can tell me here | 02:38 |
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| sistpoty | sebest: you should put a link to the gentoo bug report in debian/copyright. that way it's clear that upstream *meant* it to be gpl/artistic and only wrote otherwise in his script | 02:38 |
| bddebian | Heya gang | 02:39 |
| sebest | sistpoty: oki, and about the "or perl artistic" ? | 02:40 |
| sistpoty | sebest: for the dual license, just write s.th. like: This software is dual licensed, either GPL or Artistic License, then the gpl snippet and some pointers to look at /usr/share/common-licenses/{GPL,Artistic} | 02:40 |
| sistpoty | sebest: it was artistic license, right? | 02:40 |
| sebest | yes right | 02:40 |
| sistpoty | ok, should be fine then | 02:41 |
| sistpoty | hi bddebian | 02:41 |
| bddebian | Heya sistpoty | 02:41 |
| bddebian | You're a REVU machine :) | 02:41 |
| sistpoty | I just try to catch up with you ;) | 02:42 |
| bddebian | Heh, yeah right :-) | 02:42 |
| agent | is there a shell command/script that will output to console what python versions are available? | 02:43 |
| agent | python -V just outputs current default version, not all versions installed | 02:43 |
| sistpoty | agent: pyversions -s or pyversions -i | 02:44 |
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| agent | sistpoty: what is the difference? i don't want to create a package that works for me and then breaks when 2.6 or whatnot comes around | 02:45 |
| sistpoty | agent: it's supported vs. installed... so in theory pyversions -i would be the same to pyversions -s if you build-depend on python-all-dev | 02:46 |
| agent | sistpoty: okay, thank you... i will use -i for installed "just in case" | 02:46 |
| sistpoty | hehe | 02:46 |
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| LaserJock | alright, I'm off | 02:53 |
| LaserJock | I should be back in a couple of days | 02:53 |
| sistpoty | cya LaserJock | 02:53 |
| LaserJock | if anybody needs something tell them to email | 02:53 |
| sistpoty | ok | 02:53 |
| sistpoty | ok, one last review, then I'm off to bed... | 02:54 |
| LaserJock | \o/ | 02:54 |
| ajmitch | bye LaserJock | 02:54 |
| sistpoty | anyone with a review request right now? | 02:54 |
| sebest | sistpoty: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3841 :) | 02:54 |
| sistpoty | sebest: ok | 02:55 |
| theCore | oh the fun... | 02:57 |
| theCore | I installed supertux in / | 02:57 |
| agent | :D | 02:58 |
| agent | it could be worse, at least the rules file did not have a "rm -rf /" line in it :D | 02:58 |
| theCore | hehe | 02:59 |
| agent | err | 02:59 |
| agent | maybe i should not give people ideas | 02:59 |
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| theCore | we got fakeroot for that :) | 02:59 |
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| sistpoty | sebest: uploaded, thx | 03:00 |
| === bhale forgives Hobbsee | ||
| bhale | for now | 03:00 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 03:00 |
| sebest | sistpoty: thanx! | 03:00 |
| sebest | sistpoty: i have 2 other package, one small, and one bigger :) | 03:00 |
| sebest | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3809 | 03:00 |
| sistpoty | sebest: the smaller one right now, the bigger one tommorrow, ok? | 03:01 |
| sebest | yes, the smaller is not yet on the revu page | 03:01 |
| sistpoty | argl... ok then I'll review the bigger one now, and the smaller one tomorrow ;) | 03:01 |
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| sebest | sistpoty: the big one will also be reviewed by seb128, because it needs a specific configuration in smb.conf: enabling the "net usershare" functionnality | 03:05 |
| sistpoty | sebest: nautilus-share? | 03:05 |
| sebest | sistpoty: yes | 03:06 |
| sistpoty | sebest: the long description could be a little bit more verbose | 03:07 |
| sistpoty | sebest: are you upstream for it? | 03:09 |
| sebest | sistpoty: i am | 03:09 |
| sistpoty | ah,k | 03:09 |
| brainsik | does anyone know why the echo command behaves differently under dash than bash? | 03:09 |
| sistpoty | sebest: then debian/copyright makes sense ;) | 03:09 |
| sistpoty | brainsik: I guess it's a builtin in bash? | 03:10 |
| sebest | brainsik: maybe on is built-in ? | 03:10 |
| sistpoty | hehe | 03:10 |
| brainsik | sebest, sistpoty: that's true, but the docs for each say -e option does the same thing. :( | 03:11 |
| sebest | brainsik: i already notice a similar bug, the vmware scripts use bin/sh which is a link to dash on edgy, and the script fails on echo -e | 03:12 |
| brainsik | sebest: exactly. in my case, one of the module-source packages in main wouldn't compile | 03:12 |
| sebest | to solve my issue i changed !bin/sh to !bin/bash, but i don't know if you can do the same | 03:13 |
| sistpoty | sebest: there shouldn't be an shlibs file in the package, since it's not a library and also the generated postinst with the ldconfig call is useless | 03:14 |
| sebest | that's not a library? | 03:14 |
| sistpoty | sebest: you don't link programs against it, do you? | 03:15 |
| sebest | sistpoty: right, it's just a nautilus extension | 03:15 |
| sistpoty | see ;) | 03:15 |
| sebest | .so | 03:15 |
| freeflying|away | REVU day today? | 03:15 |
| brainsik | sebest: i'm tempted to remove the dash package. this is the second time it's caused a package to fail for me. | 03:15 |
| sistpoty | freeflying|away: yep | 03:15 |
| sistpoty | FeistyFawn: and tomorrow and the day after tomorrow as well | 03:15 |
| sistpoty | freeflying|away: ^^ even | 03:16 |
| freeflying|away | cool :) | 03:16 |
| sebest | sistpoty: what should i fix about the shlibs issue? | 03:17 |
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| sebest | sistpoty: i don't understand where the postint/preinst scripts come from :) | 03:17 |
| sistpoty | sebest: you shouldn't call dh_makeshlibs... but I don't know how you can do this with cdbs :) | 03:17 |
| sistpoty | sebest: postinst/preinst also comes from dh_makeshlibs | 03:17 |
| sebest | sistpoty: it's hidden deep in cdbs? | 03:18 |
| sistpoty | sebest: deep as in crypted, yes | 03:18 |
| sebest | sistpoty: i see some env var in /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/debhelper.mk | 03:19 |
| sistpoty | sebest: I look at it right now, but I haven't found a way to disable it yet :( | 03:19 |
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| sebest | sistpoty: he :) | 03:21 |
| ScottK | I fixed up pyspf-2.0.1 from the latest set of REVU comments. I believe it's ready for another look http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3843 - Thanks! | 03:21 |
| sebest | sistpoty: i don't know why i used that, it was some one year ago or so | 03:21 |
| sebest | sistpoty: the nice thing is that it's quite easy to use | 03:21 |
| sistpoty | sebest: unless the package is not common enough ;) | 03:22 |
| sistpoty | sebest: maybe this will give some hints: /usr/share/doc/cdbs/buildcore.png | 03:23 |
| sistpoty | anyway, it's much too late here, and I gotta get up early (for a lazy student that is) tomorrow | 03:25 |
| sistpoty | good night everyone | 03:26 |
| freeflying|away | I lost my passwd of revu, :) | 03:26 |
| sebest | freeflying|away: just try to login and the magic "recover my pass" will appear :) | 03:27 |
| freeflying|away | sebest: thanks | 03:27 |
| === theCore is playing Supertux M3 :P | ||
| theCore | should I upload it? | 03:33 |
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| Lathiat | theCore: shoot me the packages ;) | 03:35 |
| theCore | Lathiat: :) | 03:35 |
| Lathiat | i want to play it :P | 03:36 |
| Lathiat | haha | 03:36 |
| theCore | Lathiat: source or binary? | 03:36 |
| Lathiat | been lookign forward to that | 03:36 |
| Lathiat | source is good | 03:36 |
| theCore | then, I need to build it | 03:36 |
| theCore | :/ | 03:36 |
| Lathiat | build what? | 03:36 |
| theCore | the source package | 03:37 |
| Lathiat | right, thats not that hard is it? | 03:37 |
| theCore | no | 03:37 |
| agent | are there any changes to the defaults in terms of paths that must be made when using distutils to install python modules? | 03:37 |
| theCore | Lathiat: it should take only a few minutes | 03:37 |
| Lathiat | fwaah, might take a whiel to upload, 30M :P | 03:38 |
| theCore | Lathiat: done | 03:42 |
| theCore | Lathiat: I uploaded it to REVU | 03:44 |
| jdong | ok, I think that's quite enough of me revamping the iPodVideoEncoding article... | 03:45 |
| jdong | any more and they might dispatch the MPAA to my front door :D | 03:45 |
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| theCore | Lathiat: how do I send it to you? | 03:46 |
| theCore | it's 40MB | 03:47 |
| Lathiat | i'll grab it off revu | 03:47 |
| theCore | ok | 03:47 |
| theCore | Lathiat: but you still need the original tarball | 03:47 |
| theCore | Lathiat: REVU only has the diff | 03:48 |
| _Enchained | Hi all | 03:55 |
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| bddebian | Heya _Enchained | 04:01 |
| _Enchained | bddebian: question : | 04:02 |
| _Enchained | I have to package a soft who use a .sh script to install | 04:02 |
| _Enchained | and in the script | 04:02 |
| _Enchained | it use java -jar | 04:02 |
| _Enchained | so I must put sun-java5-jre in BuildDep ?... | 04:02 |
| _Enchained | or anything else ?... | 04:03 |
| bddebian | I don't do java, sorry :( | 04:06 |
| _Enchained | I'll ask tomorrow in classroom-fr ^^ | 04:06 |
| _Enchained | go to sleep | 04:06 |
| _Enchained | @ | 04:07 |
| bddebian | What's the best way to tell why a package is in Debian but not in Ubuntu? | 04:08 |
| _Enchained | bddebian: can you give me your opinion on http://most-enchained.com/ubuntu/medibuntu/ ? | 04:09 |
| _Enchained | I made the site tonight | 04:09 |
| _Enchained | (how are graphics etc...) | 04:09 |
| bddebian | Looks nice | 04:10 |
| _Enchained | somthing to correct ?... | 04:10 |
| bddebian | Not that I can see | 04:11 |
| _Enchained | ok thanks | 04:12 |
| _Enchained | I go | 04:12 |
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| _Enchained | (to bed) | 04:12 |
| bddebian | Gnight | 04:12 |
| bddebian | Gah, why is there no year on REVU? | 04:15 |
| ajmitch | probably because we never expected things to get that stale | 04:17 |
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| bddebian | ajmitch: Aye :-) | 04:24 |
| bddebian | Heya LaserJock | 04:24 |
| bddebian | What freakin' order are packages in on REVU? | 04:30 |
| theCore | I think I will participate to the Summer of Code this year. My project would certainly be writing a better REVU | 04:33 |
| theCore | something like Guido's Mondrian would be cool | 04:33 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: I think they are by comments, and the perhaps time | 04:35 |
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| Burgundavia | imbrandon: going to ebox myself | 04:37 |
| bhale | Burgundavia: koke ebox? | 04:39 |
| Burgundavia | http://ebox-platform.com/installation-guide | 04:39 |
| Burgundavia | hmm, not liking feisty, however | 04:39 |
| bddebian | Heya Burgundavia | 04:41 |
| Burgundavia | hey bddebian | 04:41 |
| theCore | siretart: could remove supertux from /incoming ? | 04:44 |
| theCore | I need to upload the original source | 04:45 |
| theCore | ajmitch: ping | 04:46 |
| bddebian | Hmm, obviously REVU doesn't update itself WRT new packages either :-( | 04:47 |
| chillywilly | hi | 04:54 |
| bddebian | What do we do about updates to packages that were already brought into the archives? Do we still need two acks? | 04:54 |
| bddebian | Heya chillywilly | 04:54 |
| ajmitch | theCore: yes? | 04:55 |
| chillywilly | hi | 04:55 |
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| bddebian | Gnight gang | 06:35 |
| ajmitch | night bddebian | 06:36 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 07:37 |
| ajmitch | hi daniel | 07:39 |
| dholbach | hey Andrew | 07:40 |
| tepsipakki | hmm, checkinstall build failed on amd64 | 07:45 |
| tepsipakki | installwatch.c: In function 'fopen64': | 07:45 |
| tepsipakki | installwatch.c:3267: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size | 07:45 |
| tepsipakki | make[2] : *** [installwatch.o] Error 1 | 07:45 |
| tepsipakki | is that common? | 07:46 |
| Fujitsu | ... it is checkinstall, so it's cursed. | 07:47 |
| dholbach | tepsipakki: does it build with -Wall ? | 07:49 |
| imbrandon | moins | 07:51 |
| imbrandon | FINALY got some form of linux on here | 07:52 |
| imbrandon | this thing is nice but a pita | 07:52 |
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| imbrandon | gig nic isnt detected , no accelerated video :( | 07:52 |
| imbrandon | i hate new computers | 07:52 |
| chillywilly | :-/ | 07:53 |
| imbrandon | no tv card workie' | 07:53 |
| imbrandon | man | 07:53 |
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| tepsipakki | dholbach: no idea.. I have no amd64 machine to test | 07:55 |
| tepsipakki | or you mean in general | 07:55 |
| dholbach | in general - it's stopping the build after a warning only | 07:56 |
| tepsipakki | oh | 08:01 |
| tepsipakki | I'll try when I get to work | 08:02 |
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| imbrandon | ok ajmitch and other gurus, i'm buying a vid card tonight ( PCI-e ) as cheap as possible, ATI or NV ? | 08:13 |
| Hobbsee | nv, duh? | 08:14 |
| imbrandon | hrm but the free ATI drivers do 3d :) | 08:14 |
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| imbrandon | here is the one i was thinking about getting, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814141035 | 08:15 |
| imbrandon | i just need something better than this onboard video that only does 1024x768 even in windows | 08:15 |
| imbrandon | lol | 08:15 |
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| imbrandon | wget http://voyager.imbrandon.com/misc/debootstrap/debootstrap-0.3.3.1ubuntu1-2.noarch.rpm | 08:27 |
| imbrandon | err | 08:27 |
| nixternal | haha | 08:27 |
| imbrandon | heya nixternal | 08:28 |
| nixternal | i take it yakuake wasn't hilighted :) | 08:28 |
| nixternal | howdy | 08:28 |
| imbrandon | nice domain :) | 08:28 |
| nixternal | why thank you ;) | 08:28 |
| nixternal | $22 for the whole year | 08:28 |
| imbrandon | btw i offered you the same deal many many moons ago :) but no biggie | 08:28 |
| imbrandon | hehe any dreamhost customer can do it | 08:28 |
| nixternal | ya, i finally said the hell with it and did it | 08:28 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 08:28 |
| nixternal | only cuz i had like $29 in my stale paypal account | 08:29 |
| imbrandon | yea i finaly moved most everyting off dreamhost anyhow onto my new box | 08:29 |
| imbrandon | except seveas.imbrandon.com is the only thing left on the dreamhost box | 08:29 |
| imbrandon | pay for a full year ? | 08:29 |
| nixternal | yup | 08:29 |
| imbrandon | nice | 08:29 |
| imbrandon | your on mtdew ? | 08:30 |
| nixternal | hehe ya | 08:30 |
| imbrandon | omg you have to give me a shell hahaha | 08:30 |
| nixternal | the only server i don't have an account on | 08:30 |
| nixternal | err..didn't have an account on | 08:30 |
| imbrandon | haha | 08:30 |
| nixternal | i have like nixternal-nixternal20 over there | 08:30 |
| tepsipakki | dholbach: about checkinstall.. it already uses -Wall | 08:39 |
| dholbach | tepsipakki: yes, that's why it fails to build | 08:40 |
| dholbach | (because of the warning) | 08:40 |
| imbrandon | heya dholbach | 08:41 |
| dholbach | hey imbrandon | 08:41 |
| tepsipakki | hmm, seems that I didn't paste the error: | 08:43 |
| tepsipakki | installwatch.c: At top level: | 08:43 |
| tepsipakki | installwatch.c:2694: error: conflicting types for 'readlink' | 08:43 |
| tepsipakki | /usr/include/unistd.h:775: error: previous declaration of 'readlink' was here | 08:43 |
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| dholbach | I hope you all have seen the universe manual merges too! :-) | 08:50 |
| imbrandon | dholbach, yup, i'm working on merges all day today | 08:52 |
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| dholbach | nice :) | 08:53 |
| ajmitch | imbrandon: you make me feel like a real slacker | 08:53 |
| imbrandon | hahah i've been slacking the last few days | 08:54 |
| imbrandon | so its time to make up | 08:54 |
| imbrandon | even if i have no useable x | 08:54 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 08:54 |
| tepsipakki | what does the "manual" mean, that there is no REPORT and stuff available? | 09:01 |
| tepsipakki | umm, no | 09:01 |
| tepsipakki | only tried pax-utils, which didn't | 09:01 |
| tepsipakki | ah, I got it, maybe... so the version in ubuntu is not based on any version in debian, right? | 09:05 |
| imbrandon | tepsipakki, basicly , yes | 09:06 |
| imbrandon | little more to it than that sometimes, but thats the jest of it | 09:07 |
| tepsipakki | ok, I can look at some of them | 09:07 |
| imbrandon | sometimes they are based on the same verions just packed diffrently ( that happens when its in ubuntu first etc at times ) | 09:07 |
| imbrandon | etc | 09:07 |
| tepsipakki | but it's ok to keep the delta as low as possible? | 09:08 |
| tepsipakki | ie. base it on the debian-version | 09:08 |
| imbrandon | amarok is a good ( bad? ) example of that in ubuntu and debian, they are two totaly diffrent animals | 09:08 |
| imbrandon | but both 1.4.4 | 09:08 |
| imbrandon | based | 09:08 |
| tepsipakki | heh | 09:08 |
| imbrandon | but yea, imho keep the delta as small as possible if any at all | 09:09 |
| imbrandon | i dunno if thats official, but thats the rule of thumb i try to follow | 09:09 |
| imbrandon | dholbach could probably give you the "official" answer | 09:10 |
| imbrandon | :) | 09:10 |
| tepsipakki | "manual" seems to also mean that grab-merge.sh doesn't work :) | 09:10 |
| imbrandon | possibly | 09:10 |
| dholbach | you have to merge manually | 09:10 |
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| tepsipakki | I'll start at the bottom, xfce4-xmms-plugin first | 09:11 |
| tepsipakki | s/at/from/ | 09:12 |
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| tepsipakki | xfce4-xmms-plugin can be synced, filing a sync-request | 09:31 |
| tepsipakki | wonder why it was packaged for ubuntu in the first place, since there was a debian version available | 09:32 |
| shawarma | tepsipakki: Our version predates the Debian one by three weeks. :-) | 09:38 |
| shawarma | compare http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/x/xfce4-xmms-plugin/xfce4-xmms-plugin_0.4.0-0ubuntu1/changelog with http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/x/xfce4-xmms-plugin/xfce4-xmms-plugin_0.4.0-2/changelog | 09:38 |
| tepsipakki | not true, 0.3.1-1 was packaged Mon 8 Aug 2005 :) | 09:39 |
| tepsipakki | why not base the newer version on that | 09:39 |
| tepsipakki | but anyway | 09:39 |
| shawarma | tepsipakki: Sure, but we don't always wait for Debian to package new upstream versions. | 09:39 |
| tepsipakki | of course not, but that wasn't the point :) | 09:40 |
| shawarma | tepsipakki: Ok. I've been awake for 26 hours (working the 25 of them) so I'm not thinking entirely straight right now. | 09:40 |
| shawarma | and all the while you guys have been having fun merging things for Ubuntu.. gah... | 09:41 |
| tepsipakki | shawarma: hehe, take it easy then :) | 09:41 |
| tepsipakki | and get some sleep :) | 09:42 |
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| shawarma | tepsipakki: Not quite yet. Major deadline in 2 hours and 10 minutes. Work, work, work. | 09:49 |
| shawarma | 2 hours, 10 minutes and 32 seconds, actually. | 09:49 |
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| tepsipakki | heh, pity you :) | 09:53 |
| tepsipakki | shawarma: do you mind if I look at rawstudio? | 09:54 |
| shawarma | tepsipakki: Not at all. | 09:56 |
| lfittl | anyone in here who will come to the 23rd Chaos Communication Congress next week? | 09:56 |
| shawarma | tepsipakki: I'm quite certain it's just a sync. | 09:56 |
| tepsipakki | we'll see | 09:57 |
| tepsipakki | maybe yes, tepache was a sync-candidate as well | 09:57 |
| tepsipakki | hrmh, I hate it when config.guess is in the diff | 09:58 |
| tepsipakki | shawarma: actually the ubuntu version has a patch from upstream, I'll keep that | 10:04 |
| Sp4rKy | hi | 10:06 |
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| shawarma | tepsipakki: Ah, yes, I suppose they haven't gotten round to releasing that. Good catch. :-) | 10:12 |
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| \sh | moins | 10:52 |
| highvoltage | hey mr \sh. I thought you are on holiday :) | 10:59 |
| \sh | yepp last day at work ;) | 11:06 |
| \sh | dholbach: libgoffice...I can only see libgoffice-0-x in feisty...what about libgoffice-1-x? :) | 11:07 |
| dholbach | ask upstream | 11:07 |
| dholbach | they went from .so.1 to .so.0 | 11:07 |
| \sh | argl...and gnome-chemistry-utils needs libgoffice-1-x *grmpf* | 11:08 |
| dholbach | then you need to do a one-character change in debian/control, no? | 11:08 |
| ajmitch | \sh: that's a well-known problem, there are people working on that | 11:08 |
| dholbach | ajmitch: who's working on what? | 11:08 |
| ajmitch | the science team | 11:08 |
| \sh | dholbach: some more changes went into the debian package | 11:09 |
| ajmitch | gnome-chemistry-utils | 11:09 |
| ajmitch | ask laserjock or fujitsu or azeem | 11:09 |
| dholbach | \sh: which changes in which package? | 11:09 |
| \sh | dholbach: gnome-chemistry-utils | 11:09 |
| dholbach | ah, well then it's a one-character change on top of those changes :) | 11:09 |
| \sh | libgchemutils became libgcu | 11:10 |
| \sh | and our changes we can drop completly...and adjusting the debian package...and merging the changelog | 11:10 |
| tepsipakki | rawstudio done | 11:12 |
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| azeem | the problem with gnome-chemistry-utils is that it needs the stable libgoffice, while Ubuntu has been shiping unstable ones so far, AFAICT | 11:13 |
| azeem | but LaserJock had a deeper look at it than I, and is working on it together with upstream | 11:14 |
| dholbach | azeem: the API changes between the two are minor (goffice-1 and goffice-0) | 11:15 |
| azeem | dholbach: ok | 11:15 |
| \sh | let's have a look... | 11:15 |
| dholbach | new API has been added, but only very very few have changed | 11:15 |
| azeem | I'm not convinced that g-c-u should use goffice in the first place, but that's a different story | 11:15 |
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| tepsipakki | om, omins done | 11:58 |
| tepsipakki | riddell: ping? | 11:59 |
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| tepsipakki | riddell: nevermind, was going to ask about plotdrop but it is sync-able and a request filed | 12:12 |
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| daya | raphink, hi | 12:41 |
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| tepsipakki | giskard: ping | 12:49 |
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| tepsipakki | bah, not here | 12:49 |
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| tepsipakki | zul: ping | 01:10 |
| tepsipakki | zul: gmail-notify seems to be a sync candidate | 01:10 |
| tepsipakki | debian has all the patches that we do | 01:11 |
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| gnomefreak | anyone in here know french? | 01:14 |
| === bhale blames seb128 | ||
| bhale | or dholbach! | 01:15 |
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| dholbach | hahaha | 01:16 |
| fernando | moin | 01:17 |
| === Hobbsee_ blames dholbach too | ||
| tepsipakki | hobbsee: kguitar seems as a sync candidate, do you agree? | 01:17 |
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| Hobbsee_ | tepsipakki: what are the versions of each? | 01:18 |
| Hobbsee_ | tepsipakki: that's on manual, isnt it? | 01:18 |
| gpocentek | gnomefreak: yes | 01:18 |
| tepsipakki | yes | 01:18 |
| gnomefreak | gpocentek: i think i got it | 01:19 |
| gnomefreak | ty though gpocentek | 01:19 |
| tepsipakki | hobbsee_: we have 0.5-0ubuntu4, debian has 0.5-2 | 01:19 |
| gpocentek | np :) | 01:19 |
| Hobbsee_ | tepsipakki: gotta wait till 0.6* to sync it | 01:19 |
| Hobbsee_ | tepsipakki: just leave that | 01:19 |
| tepsipakki | ok | 01:19 |
| Hobbsee_ | tepsipakki: differening base tarballs | 01:19 |
| Hobbsee_ | -en | 01:19 |
| tepsipakki | oh | 01:20 |
| Hobbsee_ | (which is why it's a manual merge) | 01:20 |
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| StevenK | That can be fixed. | 01:21 |
| StevenK | Well. Worked around. :-) | 01:21 |
| tepsipakki | hmm, I've now done 11 merge/sync-requests from the manual-queue.. hope that it wasn't all wasted :) | 01:22 |
| Hobbsee | StevenK: i know it can, but i didnt see anything specifically worth grabbing from debian, during edgy development | 01:22 |
| \sh | Hobbsee: taking kdbg | 01:23 |
| StevenK | Which makes it easier to ignore. | 01:23 |
| Hobbsee | \sh: go for it | 01:23 |
| StevenK | Fair enough. | 01:23 |
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| Hobbsee | \sh: there's something fishy @that, iirc - it may not build, or the base tarballs may differ as well | 01:23 |
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| \sh | Hobbsee: new upstream version | 01:26 |
| \sh | Hobbsee: missing some build-deps (autoconf/automake) | 01:26 |
| Hobbsee | \sh: way cool, should be fine then | 01:26 |
| \sh | Hobbsee:jepp easy one ;) | 01:28 |
| Hobbsee | \sh: :) | 01:28 |
| Hobbsee | \sh: not a sync, presumably? | 01:28 |
| \sh | nope | 01:28 |
| \sh | dh_iconcache was your change...and now some build-deps are missing on ubuntu | 01:29 |
| Hobbsee | ah, and it's using debhelper, not cdbs | 01:29 |
| \sh | jep | 01:29 |
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| Hobbsee | to update, or not to update....that is the question... | 01:35 |
| \sh | what? | 01:36 |
| Hobbsee | my feisty | 01:37 |
| Hobbsee | i thought i heard reports of it not booting | 01:37 |
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| dholbach | Hobbsee: it works again for me now | 01:39 |
| \sh | Hobbsee: gnucash taken ;) | 01:39 |
| Hobbsee | \sh: go for it. it's a gnome app | 01:40 |
| dholbach | I deliberately didn't merge jokosher. | 01:40 |
| Hobbsee | dholbach: right | 01:40 |
| dholbach | just fyi - it doesn't work with either the debian's gstreamer nor ours | 01:40 |
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| tepsipakki | dholbach: whoops, didn't notice the change in gst-plugins-farsight.. glad it didn't yet get sync'ed | 01:59 |
| dholbach | no problem | 02:01 |
| dholbach | it's not terribly important, but it makes the snippet in debian/rules work | 02:01 |
| dholbach | in CDBS, you can use <target>:: | 02:02 |
| dholbach | or <binarypackage>/<target>:: | 02:02 |
| dholbach | they used <sourcepackage>/<target>:: | 02:02 |
| dholbach | which doesn't work | 02:02 |
| Fujitsu | tepsipakki, that plotdrop sync is invalid. The upstream tarballs differ. | 02:03 |
| dholbach | so the removal of the *.la files didn't work | 02:03 |
| tepsipakki | fujitsu: <sigh> why do they differ? | 02:04 |
| Fujitsu | 'cause that's the way the world works. Blame LaserJock :P | 02:04 |
| tepsipakki | ok, I'll have another look | 02:04 |
| dholbach | tepsipakki: sometimes it's because of generating a .tar.gz from a .tar.bz2 (if the timestamp differs, the md5sum differs) | 02:04 |
| dholbach | tepsipakki: sometimes it's because a maintainer thinks that certain files shouldn't be shipped (which mostly is indicated by -dfsg.orig.tar.gz to indicate license problems) | 02:05 |
| Fujitsu | tepsipakki, don't bother. There's no action that can be taken on plotdrop at this time, and upstream is dead. | 02:05 |
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| dholbach | same for tarballs generated from svn/cvs/... | 02:05 |
| tepsipakki | hmm, I guess hugin is a similar case | 02:06 |
| tepsipakki | it had CVS-stuff in the ubuntu tarball | 02:06 |
| tepsipakki | Fujitsu: do you refer to debian or the real upstream being dead? there seems to be 0.51 available | 02:09 |
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| tepsipakki | so if the tarballs differ, the package can't be synced? | 02:24 |
| tepsipakki | I guess syncing doesn't include copying the same orig.tar.gz again :) | 02:25 |
| tepsipakki | so I'll reject the requests | 02:25 |
| Hobbsee | tepsipakki: correct | 02:27 |
| tepsipakki | I'm slowly getting the hang of it | 02:27 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 02:32 |
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| slavik | is there any chance for mono-1.2 package for dapper? | 02:55 |
| Sp4rKy | hi there | 03:03 |
| slavik | hi | 03:03 |
| slavik | is there any chance for mono-1.2 package for dapper? | 03:03 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 03:40 |
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| cypher1 | bddebian: hi! | 03:43 |
| bddebian | Hello cypher1 | 03:44 |
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| MidMark | hi, if I want to sponsor a bug to be added in amule -> feisty which motu I've to add? | 03:46 |
| MidMark | I mean which motu I've to subscribe to the bug? | 03:47 |
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| wbadger | hello people, can someone please tell me what ubuntu<number> means in package names? | 03:47 |
| MidMark | 1ubuntu2 means: 1 version taken from debian, 2 version specific to ubuntu, means-> 2nd patched version from original source v1 | 03:49 |
| bddebian | MidMark: Just subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors | 03:51 |
| wbadger | so openoffice.org 2.0.4-0ubuntu4 for example would mean it's still openoffice v2.0.4-0 and had 4 paches applied to it by ubuntu guys? | 03:52 |
| MidMark | bddebian: thx | 03:53 |
| MidMark | wbadger: it's not taken from debian, is all from ubuntu, and there are 4 patches | 03:53 |
| MidMark | 1 patch can have multiple patches of course | 03:53 |
| wbadger | you mean 1 patch can have multiple fixes? | 03:54 |
| MidMark | substitute patch with updates.... 4 updates | 03:54 |
| MidMark | one updates can have multiple patches | 03:55 |
| wbadger | MidMark, ok thank you :) | 03:55 |
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| slavik | will there be a mono-1.2 package for dapper? | 04:01 |
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| sistpoty|uni | hi folks | 04:19 |
| gpocentek | hey sistpoty|uni | 04:20 |
| bddebian | sistpoty|uni: !!! | 04:20 |
| sistpoty|uni | hi gpocentek and bddebian | 04:20 |
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| \sh | phew... | 04:27 |
| \sh | many syncs, many merges | 04:27 |
| bddebian | Aye :-( | 04:28 |
| \sh | I'm ready for glhwein ;) | 04:28 |
| bddebian | Heya \sh | 04:28 |
| \sh | hey bddebian | 04:28 |
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| sistpoty|uni | hi \sh | 04:31 |
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| bddebian | Damn, who's requesting all the syncs? :) | 04:36 |
| tepsipakki | I am? | 04:36 |
| bddebian | tepsipakki: All the xfonts ones? | 04:36 |
| tepsipakki | oh.. no | 04:36 |
| tepsipakki | but from the manual-queue | 04:36 |
| tepsipakki | I've double-checked their validity | 04:37 |
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| \sh | me | 04:37 |
| bddebian | Have you built them? Alot of times the manual syncs are due to md5sum problems because our orig.tar.gz isn't the same as Debians | 04:37 |
| sistpoty|uni | more syncs == less merges in the future :) | 04:37 |
| bddebian | \sh: Ah :-) | 04:37 |
| bddebian | sistpoty|uni: No, it's good, I was just curious | 04:37 |
| tepsipakki | sync: xfce4-xmms-plugin, tepache, pax-utils, omins, keytouch-editor, gmorgan, gmail-notify, beaglefs | 04:37 |
| \sh | who else...coming on the last day of work ;) | 04:38 |
| tepsipakki | merge: rawstudio, om | 04:38 |
| bddebian | \sh: ;-) | 04:38 |
| tepsipakki | rejected for now: hugin, plotdrop | 04:38 |
| sistpoty|uni | damn... now \sh will spam mail spam the changes list again :P | 04:38 |
| \sh | my 4 core machine needs something to do ;) | 04:38 |
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| sistpoty|uni | hehe | 04:38 |
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| \sh | sistpoty|uni: a long time ago that was right...now the young ones have to work more then me ;) | 04:40 |
| tepsipakki | it's been quiet since yesterday ;) | 04:40 |
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| \sh | ok..off from work and now it's pub time with my colleagues | 05:19 |
| \sh | bye | 05:19 |
| sistpoty|uni | have fun \sh_away | 05:23 |
| bddebian | Later \sh_away | 05:23 |
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| jdong | imbrandon: ping | 05:25 |
| jdong | imbrandon: your xchat-gnome -0ubuntu2 upload didn't fix the tab char, it's still present and puking pbuilder | 05:26 |
| jdong | :) | 05:26 |
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| imbrandon | jdong, ok i'll fix it here in a few | 05:53 |
| imbrandon | ( or try to again ) | 05:54 |
| imbrandon | i have a meeting in 20 minutes | 05:54 |
| imbrandon | i'll do it after that | 05:54 |
| zorglu_ | q. i would like to generate a new version in the .../debian/changes file, is there any tools to do that ? | 05:56 |
| zorglu_ | .../debian/changelog i meant | 05:57 |
| azeem | zorglu_: dch | 05:57 |
| zorglu_ | thanks | 05:57 |
| zorglu_ | azeem: dch is not installed on my box, apt-cache search doesnt seems to find it either, any suggestion on the package name containing dch ? | 05:59 |
| azeem | packages.ubuntu.com has a search facility for that, at the bottom | 05:59 |
| zorglu_ | ok apparently it does a apt-cache search :) | 06:00 |
| zorglu_ | i will google some more :) | 06:00 |
| zorglu_ | ok the pacakge name was 'devscripts' | 06:01 |
| azeem | it works for me | 06:02 |
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| Czessi | Hi, I need a 2nd advocate. Can someone take a look, please: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3765 | 06:12 |
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| sistpoty|uni | Czessi: sorry, cannot do reviews while at uni, but I'll look at it once I'm back at home (probable in 2-3 hours) | 06:22 |
| sistpoty|uni | Czessi: could you ping me then again? (I might forget otherwise *g*) | 06:22 |
| bddebian | Czessi: I'll try to take a look in a couple of minutes as well | 06:23 |
| Czessi | sistpoty|uni: Thanks. I must go to work in 2,5h | 06:23 |
| sistpoty|uni | Czessi: d'oh. the +1 is from me :( | 06:23 |
| Czessi | bddebian: great, thanks | 06:24 |
| zorglu_ | q. i got several package all creating/using the same configuration directory with the main config file in it, i would like to copy a default configuration at installation to save the time to the user, how can i fix the conflict of several package creating the same dir and default config file ? | 06:25 |
| zorglu_ | what is the usual behaviour to follow in this case | 06:26 |
| sistpoty|uni | zorglu_: hm... maybe make one package that contains the configuration, on which the other packages need to depend on (which don't have the configuration) | 06:27 |
| zorglu_ | hmm is there another possibility ?:) | 06:27 |
| zorglu_ | i mean i find that overkill, from my shallow experience in the packaging field :) | 06:28 |
| sistpoty|uni | zorglu_: well, there should be other possibilities as well... let me think | 06:28 |
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| zorglu_ | hmm what about copying the default conf if and only if the config file is not already there ? | 06:29 |
| zorglu_ | is that ok ? | 06:29 |
| sistpoty|uni | zorglu_: sounds ok | 06:30 |
| zorglu_ | ok cool :) | 06:30 |
| zorglu_ | now i just have to find out how to do that :) | 06:30 |
| sistpoty|uni | zorglu_: but you could run in trouble, if you need to update the default configuration | 06:30 |
| zorglu_ | hmm i see | 06:31 |
| sistpoty|uni | zorglu_: because you'd need to fiddle out, if an admin modified the config or not | 06:31 |
| sistpoty|uni | zorglu_: the resolution would be pretty trivial though: if modified then don't do anything ;) | 06:31 |
| zorglu_ | hehe :) | 06:31 |
| sistpoty|uni | zorglu_: another possibility was to abuse the alternatives system for that: each package could ship the config in a location unique to the package, and the alternatives system could take over which one to use | 06:32 |
| sistpoty|uni | (but that's not really an improvement over a separate config-package imo) | 06:33 |
| zorglu_ | i agree :) | 06:33 |
| zorglu_ | ok thanks for the info :) | 06:33 |
| sistpoty|uni | np | 06:33 |
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| bddebian | Czessi: OK, advocated, though I'm not sure what we do about klear in NEW | 06:48 |
| Czessi | bddebian: I think it already my package in NEW (see December 11 12:10 and December 12 09:47 at the revu page) | 06:50 |
| bddebian | Czessi: Aye, but we should upload the newer version :-) | 06:50 |
| Czessi | bddebian: hmm, can't you delete the klear in NEW or is it newer than my package? | 06:57 |
| bddebian | I can't delete it :) | 06:57 |
| Czessi | bddebian: who can do that? | 07:01 |
| bddebian | Only archive admins I assume | 07:01 |
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| theCore | ftp://revu.tauware.de/incoming has been wiped? | 07:09 |
| theCore | that's interesting | 07:10 |
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| sistpoty|uni | cya later | 07:23 |
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| hub | how do I version packages that are "beta" release? | 07:54 |
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| crimsun_ | use ~ | 07:54 |
| crimsun_ | 1.0~beta3-0ubuntu1 | 07:54 |
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| hub | ah ok | 07:56 |
| hub | thx | 07:56 |
| crimsun_ | np | 07:56 |
| hub | I wonder if I should upload it to REVU or to the archive | 07:57 |
| hub | I'll check it out first | 07:57 |
| hub | (the previous version is in universe) | 07:57 |
| crimsun_ | archive | 07:58 |
| hub | of course debian highly diverge from my original package | 07:58 |
| hub | *sigh* | 07:58 |
| crimsun_ | fun | 07:58 |
| hub | it is debian | 07:58 |
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| somerville32 | If I was in the middle of packaging one version of an application and another gets released (and I'd like to package this new version instead), should I just ask a MOTU to archive the current on revu and upload the new? | 08:06 |
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| mr_pouit | somerville32: you can reupload, it will replace the old version | 08:10 |
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| somerville32 | mr_puit: k | 08:10 |
| hub | crimsun_: my fear in uploading to the archive is that it might be less stable than 0.6.1 | 08:12 |
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| toma | how often is the new queue processed? | 08:27 |
| mr_pouit | for revu or the archive ? | 08:28 |
| toma | mr_pouit: archive | 08:28 |
| mr_pouit | I don't know for the archive :/ | 08:29 |
| toma | mr_pouit: ok, is this the right channel to ask? | 08:30 |
| mr_pouit | yes, maybe you can ask on #ubuntu-devel | 08:31 |
| mr_pouit | *also | 08:31 |
| zorglu_ | q. im porting a init.d script from fedora and it uses 'chkconfig', is there an equivalent for ubuntu ? i looked at the existing scripts and none seems to use chkconfig | 08:31 |
| zorglu_ | or maybe a place where i could learn how to write a init.d script suitable for ubuntu | 08:33 |
| mr_pouit | zorglu_: http://wiki.debian.org/chkconfig ? | 08:33 |
| zorglu_ | ah ok, so chkconfig is fully supported under ubuntu ? | 08:34 |
| mr_pouit | zorglu_: no, it gives chkconfig/update-rc.d equivalences | 08:34 |
| zorglu_ | mr_pouit: i dunno why but i was under the impression it was a fedora specific | 08:34 |
| zorglu_ | ah ok | 08:34 |
| mr_pouit | I think you're right, it is fedora specific ^^ | 08:34 |
| zorglu_ | reading then :) | 08:34 |
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| ajmitch | morning | 08:38 |
| geser | hello ajmitch | 08:38 |
| zul | afternoon | 08:38 |
| zorglu_ | mr_pouit: there is a similar thing apparently. using the tag ### BEGIN INIT INFO. i will use /etc/init.d/skeleton as basis :) | 08:40 |
| mr_pouit | ok :) | 08:41 |
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| tsmithe | howdy motus | 09:00 |
| tsmithe | it's the revu time i see | 09:00 |
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| tsmithe | i'd like to ask for alsa-firmware and alsa-tools NOT to be uploaded | 09:01 |
| tsmithe | but i'd love for asoundconf-gtk to be done | 09:01 |
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| somerville32 | ;? | 09:10 |
| tsmithe | alsa-firmware has licence issuse atm | 09:14 |
| tsmithe | alsa-tools wants the new alsa-firmware for the alsa-firmware-loaders to work properly | 09:14 |
| tsmithe | it's only built to supply a warning if it finds old firmwares | 09:14 |
| tsmithe | people can ignore the warning | 09:14 |
| tsmithe | i'd prefer it if alsa-firmware was available | 09:14 |
| tsmithe | (as it's not in the archives now) | 09:15 |
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| ash211 | if anybody would like to try exaile, it needs syncing with debian.. (jono reviewed it at http://www.jonobacon.org/?p=846 ) | 09:55 |
| ash211 | bug 76793 | 09:56 |
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| ash211 | bug 76793 | 09:57 |
| ash211 | maybe ubugtu will come alive later | 09:57 |
| ash211 | oh well | 09:57 |
| Ubug2 | Malone bug 76793 in Ubuntu "please sync exaile 0.2.6+debian-2 from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76793 | 09:58 |
| joejaxx | looks like the ivman merge was not done | 09:58 |
| joejaxx | did anyone use my debdiff? | 09:58 |
| bddebian | exaile is already sitting in NEW afaik | 09:59 |
| ash211 | i was triaging the bug, and though the place to come for that bug was here | 09:59 |
| ash211 | how can I check what's coming into NEW ? | 09:59 |
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| sistpoty | hi folks | 10:02 |
| bddebian | wb sistpoty | 10:02 |
| sistpoty | hi bddebian | 10:02 |
| sistpoty | common packaging mistake session in #ubuntu-classroom now ;) | 10:02 |
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| bddebian | ash211: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty/+queue | 10:03 |
| ash211 | thanks | 10:03 |
| bddebian | sistpoty: Are you trying to tell me something? ;) | 10:03 |
| sistpoty | hehe | 10:04 |
| sistpoty | well, only that everyone can help out, just like yesterday ;) | 10:04 |
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| bddebian | Hmm, I don't see exaile on there though ash211 | 10:05 |
| ash211 | yeah, I wasn't seeing it either | 10:05 |
| ash211 | well, if you're looking for a bug to close, there's one! | 10:05 |
| geser | joejaxx: what the bug # for the ivman merge? | 10:07 |
| joejaxx | there is not a bug written for it | 10:07 |
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| geser | joejaxx: file a bug, attach the debdiff, subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors | 10:08 |
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| sistpoty | arg... the wiki hates me :( | 10:55 |
| bddebian | Doh :-( | 10:56 |
| ogra | hate it back | 10:56 |
| bddebian | heh | 10:56 |
| sistpoty | It says I cannot rename my wrongly placed page, because the target page exists already... but if I click on the target page, it says that it doesn't exit... *clueless* | 10:56 |
| Burgwork | sistpoty: if you just deleted a page, it take a bit for the page to actually be deleted from the db, it seems | 10:57 |
| sistpoty | Burgwork: nope, afaict I didn't delete a page (maybe I accidently didn't create a page as in create but no more action and create the wrong one instead) | 10:58 |
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| sistpoty | Czessi_away: cjwatson just removed klear from the new queue... so we can upload the newer version | 11:06 |
| sistpoty | bddebian: do you want to upload, or shall I? | 11:06 |
| coyctecm_ | rtorrent crashes everytime I try to open torrent | 11:07 |
| coyctecm_ | ubuntu edgy | 11:07 |
| Adri2000 | bug report | 11:07 |
| sistpoty | coyctecm_: then please file a bug at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/rtorrent | 11:07 |
| coyctecm_ | sure | 11:07 |
| sistpoty | coyctecm_: and state which version you are using ;) | 11:07 |
| coyctecm_ | now I'm using newiest stable | 11:08 |
| coyctecm_ | directly from rtorrent site | 11:08 |
| sistpoty | coyctecm_: so you didn't install it via apt-get? | 11:08 |
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| sistpoty | coyctecm_: I guess you should file a bug in the rtorrent bug tracker then... | 11:09 |
| coyctecm_ | first I did install with apt-get, that version crashes, then I compiled it my self | 11:09 |
| coyctecm_ | I'll file a bug | 11:10 |
| sistpoty | coyctecm_: we can handle bugs for the version in the archive... but we cannot handle ones for self-compiled software (because we have too many bugs ourselves already :(() | 11:10 |
| coyctecm_ | sure. version from ubuntu edgy universe repos is the version which crashes | 11:12 |
| coyctecm_ | :) | 11:12 |
| coyctecm_ | not the newer whch I compiled my self | 11:12 |
| coyctecm_ | which | 11:12 |
| sistpoty | coyctecm_: ah :) | 11:12 |
| coyctecm_ | i so tired that my english must be horrible :D | 11:13 |
| sistpoty | hehe, I guess mine isn't really better ;) | 11:13 |
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| coyctecm_ | now it's reported. https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/rtorrent/+bug/76812 | 11:19 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 76812 in rtorrent "rtorrent crashes when opening torrent..." [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 11:19 |
| coyctecm_ | i'm going to sleep --> | 11:20 |
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| bddebian | sistpoty: Go for it, you're DA MAN :-) | 11:22 |
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| pirast | how can i run two pbuilders; an edgy one and a feisty one and how can I select which one I want to use then? | 11:27 |
| pirast | and how can I get the edgy source of a program although i am running feisty? | 11:28 |
| rmjb | pirast: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto#head-1be378ab60d3bab23eefabce49cf7df927d46f81 | 11:29 |
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| pirast | rmjb, thanks.. what's about apt-get source of different releases? | 11:30 |
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| rmjb | umm... I'm not sure, maybe a chroot? or editing sources.list? | 11:30 |
| fdoving | you can add more deb-src lines. | 11:30 |
| pirast | k thanks | 11:31 |
| jdong | rmjb: apt-get source doesn't take -t or /distro, unfortunately | 11:32 |
| jdong | rmjb: so you're probably gonna want to bookmark / searchmark packages.ubuntu.com | 11:32 |
| jdong | and use dget to fetch the .dsc links :( | 11:32 |
| fdoving | you can use apt-get source package=version | 11:32 |
| jdong | fdoving: that ain't exactly easy either :D | 11:32 |
| fdoving | it does take -t | 11:32 |
| fdoving | liar. | 11:32 |
| jdong | still involves having a madison-lite database of packages :) | 11:32 |
| jdong | it takes -t but doesn't work | 11:32 |
| fdoving | apt-get -t source bash | 11:32 |
| fdoving | works here. | 11:33 |
| jdong | no, as in | 11:33 |
| fdoving | your apt sucks then :) | 11:33 |
| jdong | apt-get source bash -t dapper | 11:33 |
| fdoving | you'll have to add the -t before 'source' | 11:33 |
| fdoving | apt-get -t dapper source bash | 11:33 |
| fdoving | works for me. | 11:33 |
| jdong | really? | 11:33 |
| fdoving | I do it this way. | 11:33 |
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| fdoving | I have deb-src lines for dapper, edgy and feisty on one box. | 11:33 |
| rmjb | jdong: you have the additional entries in your sources.list? | 11:34 |
| rmjb | what fdoving saod | 11:34 |
| rmjb | said | 11:34 |
| jdong | back when I tried it, yes | 11:34 |
| jdong | I'm adding it back and attempting again | 11:34 |
| jdong | wow, it works now | 11:35 |
| jdong | I _SWEAR_ that back in Dapper when I tried this last, it didn't work! | 11:35 |
| jdong | else I wouldn't have my silly Sources.gz grokking scripts | 11:35 |
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| fdoving | :) | 11:36 |
| jdong | :) | 11:36 |
| rmjb | question, need help actually, I have a simple package for which I was advised to split into a binary, library and lib-dev package | 11:36 |
| rmjb | before it was all just one binary with everything | 11:37 |
| rmjb | and I have that one installed and working now | 11:37 |
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| fdoving | .. it works on dapper too. | 11:37 |
| jdong | fdoving: that might be true | 11:37 |
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| jdong | the last time I used -t for real (mixing testing / unstable), install didn't care where the -t went | 11:38 |
| sistpoty | rmjb: what's your question? | 11:38 |
| jdong | I didn't know that -t had to go first | 11:38 |
| rmjb | in the bin-only package I'm seeing files that are not showing up when I have the split pacakge set up, i.e. with multiple binaries in control and multiple .install files | 11:38 |
| rmjb | why would files be generated in one instance but not the other? | 11:38 |
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| sistpoty | rmjb: if the three .install files are the same as the one .install file for the binary-only package, it really *should* be identical | 11:39 |
| rmjb | sistpoty: this is the bin-only package that needs to be split: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3446 | 11:39 |
| rmjb | I didn't have an .install file with the bin-only package | 11:39 |
| rmjb | the files in question are under /usr/share/doc/<bin-pkg-name> though... are those special files? | 11:40 |
| sistpoty | rmjb: did you change the docs file? | 11:40 |
| rmjb | I removed it as recommended by dholbach | 11:41 |
| rmjb | in the REVU | 11:41 |
| theCore | does REVU is working? | 11:41 |
| sistpoty | rmjb: what new files are there now? | 11:42 |
| sistpoty | theCore: ? | 11:42 |
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| rmjb | sistpoty: the only changes I've made to the package since dholbach's feedback are removing debian/docs adding two more binary pacakge entries to debian/control and creating 3 .install files | 11:43 |
| sistpoty | rmjb: but what files do you see now, which haven't been there before? | 11:43 |
| sistpoty | rmjb: AUTHORS? | 11:43 |
| theCore | sistpoty: I uploaded my package about 5 or 6 hours ago, but my package doesn't seem to be processed yet | 11:44 |
| theCore | sistpoty: ftp://revu.tauware.de/incoming/ | 11:44 |
| sistpoty | theCore: I'll take a look | 11:44 |
| geser | are there any tools to extract debdiffs from bugreports? | 11:45 |
| theCore | sistpoty: it's the supertux package | 11:45 |
| sistpoty | geser: what do you mean with "extract debdiffs"? | 11:45 |
| rmjb | sistpoty: well, the source package is called pmplib, the bin-only package is easypmp, these are some files that exist in the bin-only package: | 11:45 |
| rmjb | /usr/share/doc/pmplib/COPYING.gz | 11:45 |
| rmjb | /usr/share/doc/pmplib/README.gz | 11:45 |
| rmjb | /usr/share/doc/pmplib/ChangeLog | 11:45 |
| rmjb | /usr/share/doc/pmplib/AUTHORS | 11:45 |
| rmjb | /usr/share/doc/pmplib/INSTALL.gz | 11:45 |
| geser | sistpoty: see bug 76716 | 11:45 |
| rmjb | /usr/share/doc/easypmp | 11:45 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 76716 in om "Please sponsor om upload" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76716 | 11:45 |
| rmjb | /usr/share/doc/easypmp/changelog.gz | 11:45 |
| rmjb | /usr/share/doc/easypmp/copyright | 11:45 |
| rmjb | /usr/share/doc/easypmp/README.gz | 11:45 |
| rmjb | /usr/share/doc/easypmp/changelog.Debian.gz | 11:45 |
| sistpoty | rmjb: some are special, yes ;) | 11:46 |
| rmjb | sistpoty: after the split /usr/share/doc/easypmp is not being created it seems | 11:46 |
| sistpoty | geser: you can append s.th. like /comment/<number> to display the comment as text, but I don't recall exactly what it has been | 11:47 |
| rmjb | sistpoty: should I copy the files from /usr/share/doc/pmplib to /usr/share/doc/easypmp then? and not worry about where those files went to? | 11:48 |
| sistpoty | rmjb: did you look through all packages? imho these should be in the first package listed in debian/control | 11:48 |
| rmjb | I really don't understand this build process... there's no debian/tmp/usr/share/doc/easypmp, but there's a debian/easypmp/usr/share/doc/easypmp | 11:50 |
| rmjb | I guess the files are already there and don't need to be listed in the easypmp.install file then | 11:50 |
| sistpoty | theCore: the with which you signed the upload is not in revu key database... have you registered it with your launchpad account and are in the group ubuntu-universe-contributors | 11:50 |
| sistpoty | ? | 11:50 |
| theCore | sistpoty: I was in ubuntu-universe-contributors, but left the team | 11:51 |
| theCore | I left* | 11:51 |
| ajmitch | theCore: why did you leave the team, if you still want to upload? | 11:52 |
| theCore | the reason is really silly... | 11:52 |
| sistpoty | rmjb: changelog.gz e.g. is handled via dh_installchangelogs... some are handled via dh_installdocs even if you don't list them in docs | 11:53 |
| sistpoty | rmjb: so the question is, how is dh_installdocs called? | 11:53 |
| rmjb | sistpoty: I'm using cdbs | 11:54 |
| theCore | I just found Ubuntu Universe Contributors ugly on my lp home page | 11:54 |
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| rmjb | from the output it seems to be called as dh_installdocs -p<package name> for all 3 packages | 11:54 |
| sistpoty | rmjb: but cdbs is using debhelper underneath | 11:54 |
| bddebian | Later gang | 11:54 |
| rmjb | yes | 11:54 |
| rmjb | later bddebian | 11:54 |
| sistpoty | later bddebian | 11:54 |
| theCore | sistpoty: so, I would need to join again? | 11:55 |
| sistpoty | theCore: yes, please... otherwise I cannot import your key to revu ;) | 11:55 |
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| theCore | sistpoty: ok, I am a member of the team again | 11:56 |
| sistpoty | rmjb: maybe it's some help if you put export DH_VERBOSE=1 into debian rules (at the beginning). that should give you some insights what the debhelper scripts (called from cdbs) are actually doing | 11:57 |
| sistpoty | theCore: ok, I'll resync the keyring and put your package from rejected back to incoming | 11:57 |
| rmjb | sistpoty: THAT is what I need, thank you very much | 11:57 |
| theCore | sistpoty: thanks | 11:58 |
| sistpoty | np rmjb, theCore ;) | 11:58 |
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| rmjb | sistpoty: things are looking up, another question about the usr/share/doc | 12:02 |
| rmjb | sistpoty: should it just be the binary package name? and not the source? | 12:02 |
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| rmjb | binary package name: libpmp, source package name pmplib | 12:03 |
| sistpoty | rmjb: binary package name, though I'd highly advise you not to copy stuff in there yourself, but using docs (dh_installdocs) or examples (dh_installexamples) instead | 12:04 |
| sistpoty | rmjb: that way, you needn't change anything if e.g. the library package name changes due to a different soname | 12:04 |
| sistpoty | (library binary package name even) | 12:04 |
| rmjb | sistpoty: yeah, I'm not copying in myself, but I had usr/share/doc/<source package name> in the <lib binary package>.install file | 12:05 |
| rmjb | so I'm removing it | 12:05 |
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| sistpoty | theCore: your package should show up on revu when the next */10 cron runs | 12:08 |
| sistpoty | (minutes) | 12:08 |
| theCore | sistpoty: thanks again | 12:08 |
| sistpoty | np | 12:08 |
| rmjb | does the INSTALL file usually get put into a package, or is it left out? | 12:09 |
| sistpoty | rmjb: unless you list it in docs, it gets left out iirc. | 12:10 |
| rmjb | sistpoty: I'll leave it out then... ? I hope that's okay | 12:10 |
| sistpoty | rmjb: usually it only contains info necessary to compile the package. and that's not really useful for a binary package (and for the source package, you have it there in the first place) | 12:11 |
| rmjb | cool, it's okay | 12:11 |
| sistpoty | rmjb: if it contains info useful for the *binary* package though (happens sometimes as well), please include it | 12:11 |
| rmjb | nah, it's a standard cut-and-paste INSTALL file | 12:12 |
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