[02:50] <bddebian> Heya
[02:50] <Hobbsee> hey bddebian
[02:50] <bddebian> Hi Hobbsee
[02:52] <Jucato> boo
[02:52] <bddebian> aahh
[02:52] <Jucato> hehe :)
[06:58] <nixternal> how many known issues are there with k3b in feisty?
[06:58] <Hobbsee> none?
[07:00] <nixternal> well, there is one now :)
[07:01] <Hobbsee> nixternal: whihc is?
[07:01] <nixternal> not burning...a few different errors
[07:01] <nixternal> trying a reboot..see if that fixes it
[07:02] <nixternal> waiting forever at the splash screen again :(
[07:07] <nixternal> ya, k3b is hosed
[07:07] <nixternal> now it won't recognize my burner
[07:08] <nixternal> maybe it's not k3b, but the stupid -generic kernel that doesn't like my other system
[07:12] <Hobbsee> oh dear
[07:24] <nixternal> how come when i install a new kernel it does't make it into /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:24] <nixternal> none of the updated kernels are getting added either
[07:25] <Hobbsee> run sudo update-grub
[07:26] <nixternal> ya, did that, but i thought it was automagically created upon kernel upgrades
[08:38] <nixternal> http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/35588182/?&q=kubuntu&qh=boost%3Apopular+age_sigma%3A24h+age_scale%3A5
[08:38] <nixternal> that is the baddest kubuntu wallpaper i ahve seen to date
[08:39] <Hobbsee> nixternal: urgh :P
[08:39] <nixternal> no likey?
[08:40] <fdoving> morning.
[08:40] <nixternal> morning
[08:50] <Hobbsee> hey fdoving
[08:53] <fdoving> hi hobbsee.
[08:55] <fdoving> are there some cd-cover graphics for edgy available?
[09:00] <fdoving> off to work. later.
[09:00] <Hobbsee> bye fdoving
[09:00] <Hobbsee> not sure on the cd-cover graphic
[09:00] <Hobbsee> s
[09:06] <Hobbsee> Riddell: ping?
[09:06] <Hobbsee> argh, only *1* of my addresses have actually moved over it seems
[10:42] <\sh> moins
[11:30] <Hobbsee> yay!
[11:30] <Hobbsee> hrm, so this is where *some* of the people ended up
[11:31] <Hobbsee> we must be split in at least 3 ways
[11:31] <Jucato> hehe
[11:31] <Jucato> hm.. this is taking too long...
[11:31] <Hobbsee> what is?
[11:31] <Jucato> netsplit
[11:32] <Hobbsee> ah yes
[11:32] <Jucato> lol
[11:32] <Jucato> lucky you
[11:32] <mhb> something important going on over there?
[11:34] <Hobbsee> nope
[11:34] <Hobbsee> that seems like very few people
[11:34] <Jucato> they're wondering where the rest of us are? :P
[11:34] <Hobbsee> hehe
[11:34] <Hobbsee> something like that
[11:34] <Hobbsee> that was a *massive* split to my local client
[11:35] <Hobbsee> dropped about 700+ people
[11:35] <Jucato> :O
[11:35] <Jucato> this has been going on since morning... thought they fixed it already?
[11:35] <Hobbsee> after getting it into the repos
[11:36] <Jucato> supertux2?
[11:36] <Jucato> how much better it is than the first one? (just tried supertux1 last night...)
[11:38] <Hobbsee> a lot
[11:38] <Hobbsee> i mean, the levels are more or less the same, but it's a lot better
[11:38] <Hobbsee> and there are lots of secret levels that i've discovered :)
[11:38] <Jucato> heh
[11:38] <Hobbsee> i've not requested a backport to feisty yet, but i'v egot amd64 debs of it, if wanted
[11:38] <Jucato> sounds like you're getting frozen-bubbled over supertux
[11:38] <Hobbsee> hehe :)
[11:38] <Hobbsee> always have liked it
[11:39] <Jucato> btw... can't seem to determine which dependency of frozen bubble is dependent on GNOME...
[11:42] <Hobbsee> look in aptitude
[11:42] <Hobbsee> i think it has similar
[11:43] <Jucato> nada... anyway :)
[11:46] <Jucato> this netsplit is getting ridiculous...
[11:52] <Jucato> :(
[12:01] <Jucato> yay
[12:02] <Hobbsee> nice, we appear to be back!
[12:06] <apokryphos> Hobbsee: so where is Riddell? :O
[12:07] <Hobbsee> apokryphos: dunno.  apparently he's on holidays
[12:07] <Hobbsee> oh, he's back here nwo, it looks like
[12:07] <Hobbsee> is it possible for email to do a netsplit?
[12:07] <apokryphos> Hobbsee: he's always been online I think, must still be away
[12:08] <Hobbsee> yeah
[12:08] <apokryphos> I thought Riddell was a machine
[12:08] <Jucato> :O
[12:36] <pinheiro> im prety sure he is
[02:11] <ruphy> howdy
[02:11] <kwwii_> erm, anyone know the name of the xephyr package?
[02:11] <kwwii_> hehe
[02:11] <kwwii_> hi ruphy
[02:11] <kwwii_> I'll let you ask
[02:11] <ruphy> kwwii_: hey... you asked the question in my behalf! :P
[02:11] <kwwii_> ;-)
[02:11] <ruphy> ok guys, same question as kwii
[02:11] <Jucato> xserver-xephyr
[02:11] <ruphy> *kwwii_
[02:12] <Jucato> !xserver-xephyr
[02:12] <ubotu> xserver-xephyr: Nested X server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1.1-0ubuntu12 (edgy), package size 1463 kB, installed size 3768 kB
[02:12] <ruphy> thanks a lot Jucato =)
[02:12] <Jucato> :)
[02:18] <Hobbsee> !find xephyr
[02:18] <ubotu> Found: xserver-xephyr
[02:18] <Hobbsee> kwwii_: when you figure out how to use it, do tell
[02:19] <Jucato> Hobbsee: danimo blogged about it a few days back, iirc
[02:19] <Jucato> http://daniel.molkentin.de/blog/index.php?/archives/62-Developing-KDE-4-Inside-a-KDE-3-Session.html
[02:27] <Jucato> Hobbsee: is that what you were looking for?
[02:27] <Hobbsee> Jucato: yeah, thanks
[02:27] <Jucato> np :)
[02:38] <Jucato> good luck :)
[02:39] <ruphy> Hobbsee: Xephyr :1 -screen 800x600 -ac &
[02:39] <ruphy> Hobbsee: then export DISPLAY=:1
[02:40] <ruphy> Hobbsee: and then do whatever ;)
[02:40] <Hobbsee> :)
[02:40] <ruphy> Hobbsee: (I'm using it to test kde4's kwin)
[02:40] <Jucato> oooh transparencies... :)
[02:40] <ruphy> Jucato: naaah... right now just testing the oxygen windeco ;)
[02:41] <Jucato> ah. the fruits of the #kde-artists meeting? :)
[02:41] <ruphy> Jucato: yap! =)
[02:43] <mhb> bug 47252 gets on my nerves
[02:43] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 47252 in firefox "firefox tries to open wrong path to localised home page" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/47252
[02:44] <Hobbsee> mhb: fix it?
[02:45] <mhb> Hobbsee: that's what holidays are for! Fixing!
[02:45] <Hobbsee> and the first sigseiv....
[02:45] <apokryphos> ruphy: what stuff are you working on?
[02:46] <ruphy> apokryphos: lots of stuff actually... the thing because I needed xephyr is the oxygen windows decorator
[02:47] <mhb> ruphy: any preview screenshots around?
[02:48] <Jucato> ruphy: is there also an oxygen widget style already?
[02:48] <ruphy> Jucato: not yet.. I'm developing also this
[02:48] <Hobbsee> argh, downloading all my mail will take a while...
[02:48] <mhb> OT: the funniest bug I found in Feisty: http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/5831/blender1nj6.png after wake up
[02:48] <Jucato> good luck! we're all waiting with excitement :)
[02:49] <Hobbsee> haha, nice
[02:49] <ruphy> Jucato: =)
[02:50] <Jucato> whoa! whacked desktop :)
[02:50] <mhb> full transparency without Xgl :o)
[02:50] <Jucato> hehe
[02:51] <apokryphos> that's been available for some time
[02:51] <mhb> ruphy: no screenshots yet?
[02:51] <apokryphos> (i.e. either xorg's aiglx or nvidia drivers, which are its own aiglx in fact)
[02:51] <ruphy> mhb: no.. sorry
[02:51] <apokryphos> mhb: there are some screenshots of kwin_composite with a few basic (affine, I presume) transofmrations by lunak around
[02:52] <apokryphos> mhb: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/blog/280
[02:52] <apokryphos> and of course transparency
[02:52] <Jucato> ruphy's working on the window decoration, right?
[02:53] <mhb> apokryphos: I guess so. But the one I was talking about was a bug in Feisty that makes some apps fully translucent
[02:53] <hunger> Too bad that gl keeps crashing my mashine:-(
[02:54] <ruphy> Jucato: right, but not just that
[02:54] <Jucato> ruphy: :)
[03:31] <danimo> imbrandon: ping?
[03:32] <Jucato> ruphy: is the oxygen windeco available already in svn?
[03:33] <ruphy> Jucato: more or less... :S
[03:33] <Jucato> heh ok :)
[03:33] <ruphy> Jucato: work on it have just begun (3 days)
[03:33] <ruphy> ;)
[03:33] <Jucato> aah.. ok.. I can wait a few more days before building...
[03:33] <ruphy> :P
[03:33] <Jucato> er.. wait... I reformat on January 2... so I'll probably build it after that :P
[03:34] <Stalwart> is it normal that i get 404 from mirrors?
[03:34] <Jucato> us.archive.ubuntu.com?
[03:34] <Stalwart> both lv.archive.ubuntu.com and ftp.latnet.lv
[03:35] <Jucato> oh...
[03:36] <Stalwart> i want nvidia drivers =\
[03:38] <bddebian> Heya
[03:38] <Jucato> boo bddebian
[03:38] <bddebian> Hi Jucato
[04:36] <Stalwart> how often repos are rebuilt?
[05:53] <fdoving> Stalwart: i think ~ every 6 hours or so. atleast that's the recommended mirror-sync interval.
[06:07] <Stalwart> i see major breakage on mirrors =\
[06:07] <Stalwart> can't update
[06:34] <Riddell> hi all
[06:34] <toma> hi all, hi Riddell
[06:34] <Jucato> moin Riddell
[06:35] <Riddell> what did I miss?
[06:35] <fdoving> hi all.
[06:35] <toma> you havent heard it yet?
[06:35] <mhb> hi Riddell
[06:36] <Riddell> toma: surprise me :)
[06:37] <fdoving> mailody now supports identities :)
[06:37] <Riddell> wow!
[06:37] <Riddell> what are they?
[06:38] <fdoving> mail identities, like multiple addresses.
[06:38] <mhb> Riddell: do you have few minutes free tomorrow ? I'd like to get feedback for the Oxygen comparison site.
[06:39] <Riddell> mhb: I should do
[06:39] <Riddell> what's changed?
[06:40] <mhb> Riddell: well I implemented most of the stuff you asked for ... CSV upload/export, description, status
[06:40] <Riddell> sounds good
[06:43] <fdoving> Riddell: do you have like a wiki with todos or something similar? I'll have some free time.. vacation and all.
[06:44] <mhb> Riddell: I'll finetune it today and you can comment on it tomorrow, okay?
[06:44] <Riddell> mhb: sure
[06:45] <Riddell> fdoving: not a current one anyway, revu clearing, bug triage an various programming tasks are all in the running though
[06:45] <Riddell> s/an/and/
[06:47] <toma> what's the package name of the installer on the cd and where do i send a patch to?
[06:47] <mhb> ubiquity?
[06:47] <toma> ah
[07:00] <toma> typos are already gone
[07:11] <Stalwart> Cpu(s):  1.8%us,  0.7%sy,  0.0%ni,  2.0%id,  0.0%wa, 95.5%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
[07:11] <Stalwart> what does hi mean?
[07:16] <Riddell> Stalwart: -> #kubuntu (I've no idea)
[07:16] <Riddell> hi Zerlinna
[07:18] <Zerlinna> hi Riddell :)
[07:21] <fdoving> Stalwart: hardware irq, si is software interrupts.
[07:26] <nixternal> fdoving: he wants to know what "hi" means :)
[07:27] <fdoving> hardware irq
[07:27] <fdoving> .. the time the cpu spends on hardware-irqs.
[07:27] <fdoving> or something like that.
[07:28] <nixternal> hehe, i was poking fun at it hi/hello
[07:30] <jdong> I thought it was the amount of time spend issuing /etc/motd :D
[07:32] <nixternal> speaking of motd..for some reason my custom one got over written with the default on on the server last week
[07:32] <nixternal> i would log in and be, ok, what server am i on
[07:33] <fdoving>  /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh updates the motd
[07:34] <fdoving>  /etc/motd.tail is what you should change if you want the changes to remain.
[09:38] <mhb> Where should I ask (on IRC) for help with pyqt and pykde?
[09:42] <mhb> (whenever I initialize a KIntSpinBox(), the application crashes after I close it)
[09:49] <ryanakca> mhb: they let you ask in #python
[09:49] <ryanakca> mhb: or at least the let me
[09:49] <mhb> ryanakca: okay
[09:58] <mhb> ryanakca: hmm, seems nobody answered
[09:58] <ryanakca> [15:49]  <hengha> mhb: how to contacnate a : between them ?
[09:59] <mhb> ryanakca: yes :o) but that had nothing to do with my problem
[09:59] <ryanakca> [15:47]  <hengha> how to contacnate strings ? print >>file function1(),function2() ?
[09:59] <ryanakca> ah
[09:59] <ryanakca> hmm...
[09:59] <ryanakca> ask again?
[09:59] <ryanakca> or, mail python-help?
[09:59] <ryanakca> just a sec
[10:00] <ryanakca> Python-help@python.org
[10:00] <mhb> ryanakca: well I hate to wait for answers :o)
[10:02] <ryanakca> "Should you have a Python question that you can't get an answer for through the usual means, you can send an email to PYthon-help@python.org. You email will be sent to a set of volunteers around the world who will do their best to answer you. Be as detailed as possible in your questions, copy and paste your code and the errors you get into the  email (as opposed to often confusing paraphrases), and be patient as you await an answer. You'll
[10:02] <ryanakca> find python-help can be quite a useful resource."
[10:02] <ryanakca> --Learning Python 2e, O'Reilly books
[10:03] <ryanakca> what about comp.lang.python? or the python tutor mailing list... or the main mailing list
[10:03] <ryanakca> of course, you could just try asking in #python again, with a chance of getting an answer :)
[10:03] <mhb> thanks. I'll try to figure it out myself :o)
[10:04] <ryanakca> lol, thought so
[10:04] <ryanakca> mhb: what d'you use as an IDE? kdevelop?
[10:05] <mhb> ryanakca: mc .o)
[10:05] <ryanakca> you can use mc as an editor
[10:05] <ryanakca> ?
[10:05] <ryanakca> mc = midnight commander, right?
[10:05] <mhb> yes
[10:06] <mhb> the editor is called mcedit
[10:06] <mhb> and I'm probably the single developer in the world who uses it .o)
[10:06] <ryanakca> heh
[10:06] <ryanakca> lol
[10:06] <mhb> I use kate sometimes as well
[10:07] <ryanakca> ah
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[10:39] <fdoving> I vim too. :)