[12:15] <swanfl> what repository do I have to add to get amarok 1.4.4?
[12:15] <adz21c> swanfl: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-144/ edgy main
[12:15] <mzli> wildchild: dpkg -i [package name]       install
[12:15] <swanfl> thanks adz
[12:15] <swanfl> :)
[12:15] <darkkish_> i want somethign similar to kasbar but better looking or something
[12:15] <adz21c> np :)
[12:15] <mzli> wildchild: dpkg -r [package name]          remove
[12:16] <darkkish_> can kasbar be skinned?
[12:17] <darkkish_> i don't like how you can see part of my background below all of the icons
[12:17] <darkkish_> i want something to atleast dim the screen where more icons would appear
[12:19] <darkkish_> ?
[12:21] <darkkish_> nobody knows about kasbar?
[12:22] <Black5un> !yum
[12:22] <ubotu> yum: Advanced front-end for rpm. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.4.0-3.1 (edgy), package size 197 kB, installed size 960 kB
[12:23] <darkkish_> ?
[12:23] <Black5un> !kasbar
[12:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kasbar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:23] <Black5un> nope
[12:24] <darkkish_> ok it comes with kde
[12:24] <darkkish_> and if you right click on your task bar
[12:24] <darkkish_> and go to somtehing like new task bar > kasbar
[12:24] <darkkish_> i want something simliar to that but i want it to look nicer
[12:24] <Black5un> i use console
[12:24] <darkkish_> ...
[12:24] <Black5un> no gui
[12:24] <Black5un> <--old skool
[12:24] <darkkish_> lol then why are you in kubuntu?
[12:24] <darkkish_> #kubuntu
[12:25] <Black5un> just checking it out
[12:25] <Black5un> so far centos was the best for me
[12:26] <kkathman> oddd... wonder why kicker takes up so much cpu?
[12:26] <kkathman> hmm seems like it should just more or less sit there :)
[12:26] <darkkish_> me too damn
[12:29] <swanfl> is there a way to write a music file out to a wav within Amarok?
[12:30] <chx> I have a black-and-white image and I would like to change white to transparent
[12:30] <TheDebugger> Since when #ubuntu became #gimp? :P
[12:30] <swanfl> what program are you using, chx?
[12:30] <TheDebugger> Or #AdobePhotoshop :)
[12:31] <chx> erm I am looking at kolourpaint
[12:31] <chx> but I suspect this is doable by the ways of convert of imagemagick fame
[12:31] <swanfl> do you have the gimp?
[12:31] <swanfl> hehe
[12:31] <chx> gimp...? hardly.
[12:31] <swanfl> what can I say, debugger, it's good :)
[12:31] <darkkish_> does anyone know an alternitave for kasbar?
[12:31] <chx> gimp always always scared the shit out of me
[12:31] <swanfl> scared why?
[12:31] <chx> I am a PHP coder not a graph wizard
[12:32] <chx> kolourpaint does what I need
[12:32] <chx> which is about 99.5% of the time is 'flip, rescale, save'
[12:32] <swanfl> oic
[12:33] <swanfl> the gimp is a pwerful tool
[12:33] <swanfl> powerful too :)
[12:33] <swanfl> and useful
[12:33] <chx> I know and powerful means a learning curve which I do not really do not want to climb ...
[12:34] <swanfl> is kolourpaint the only graphics experience you have?
[12:35] <chx> convert -transparent white seal_small.png seal_small2.png
[12:35] <chx> :)
[12:35] <chx> gimp would be the thermonuclear flyswatter to do the same
[12:35] <swanfl> not really
[12:35] <swanfl> just a few steps :)
[12:35] <FFForever> can i get wobbly windows on my ATI Readon XPRESS 200M 5955?
[12:37] <FFForever> yes, no, maybe?
[12:44] <darkkish_> does anyone know an alternitave for kasbar?
[12:47] <trips> hello to all
[12:48] <trips> anyone out there?
[12:48] <apokryphos> hi trips
[12:48] <apokryphos> !anyone
[12:48] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:48] <trips> hows it going ?
[12:48] <dave> yes im out here
[12:48] <kkathman> yo apokryphos :)
[12:49] <trips> lol hello mate
[12:49] <trips> where's everyone from then?
[12:49] <apokryphos> trips: good, all well. And yourself?
[12:49] <apokryphos> I'm from London
[12:49] <kkathman> trips:  from Texas here :)
[12:49] <apokryphos> hey kkathman
[12:49] <dave> new to this linux stuff.im in lancashire UK
[12:49] <trips> yeah im not to bad.. Really bored tho.. Chattin out of Kidderminster UK
[12:50] <trips> But im from Wales, and study in Newcastle
[12:51] <kkathman> Hawkwind:  Im up around Dallas..u ?
[12:51] <dave> just found this in a new install of Kubuntu....will use again
[12:52] <kkathman> apokryphos:  I guess I never realized you were from London.. my close colleague hails from Newcastle :)
[12:52] <dave> what you guys using
[12:52] <trips> i know this is a real newb question... But im running Breezy Badger still.. whats the easiest way 'using apt' to install the latest stable release of Kubuntu?
[12:52] <apokryphos> dave: Kubuntu Edgy and openSUSE 10.2
[12:52] <apokryphos> trips: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[12:52] <apokryphos> kkathman: yup, always in London 8)
[12:52] <trips> :D cheers butt
[12:52] <Hawkwind> kkathman: I'm in Katy, about 2 minutes outside of Houston
[12:52] <kkathman> I see
[12:53] <HailandKill> Is Kubuntu meant to take friggin ages to boot on it's first boot...?
[12:54] <kkathman> brb
[12:54] <trips> hmm not really
[12:54] <dave> i just save all i need to a flash drive and start from scratch with the new distro
[12:54] <trips> you recon thats the best way to upgrade? i've heard upgrading via apt can be abit dodgy sometimes
[12:54] <trips> i'm not to kean on having to reinstall all the packages ive got
[12:54] <HailandKill> Oh. Hasn't done much. It's got a little kubuntu logo, and apparently it has restarted the system log
[12:55] <dave> yes ive had a few probs that way
[12:55] <HailandKill> nothing else has been reported for several min.
[12:55] <trips> How stable is Dapper/Feisty?? I'm still on Breezy, and i find this to be alright, although my system seems to crash at least 2/3 times a day, surely this cant be right, Linux is usually meant to be incredibly stable
[12:56] <karmikaze> lupine_85: still around?
[12:56] <dave> im just a geek and dont mind redownloading the packages
[12:56] <karmikaze> anyone using those lupine nvidia drivers?
[12:56] <lupine_85> yeah
[12:56] <lupine_85> 'sup?
[12:56] <karmikaze> ah
[12:56] <karmikaze> ok so ive followed the steps on the site
[12:57] <karmikaze> but when i do the enable, it still complains about the kernel
[12:57] <karmikaze> you mentioned something about uninstall
[12:57] <lupine_85> mm
[12:57] <karmikaze> do i manually need to remove something before getting your packages
[12:57] <lupine_85> just the nvidia driver package with the --uninstall option
[12:57] <karmikaze> can you tell me the command you mean, im not quite sure
[12:58] <HailandKill> Okay.. I'm installing the AMD 64 version of Dapper, from DVD, onto an Aspire 5050 laptop... I must have done seomthing wrong.. since it obviously isn't booting correctly.
[12:58] <HailandKill> I chose the text install and everything seemed to go well, the start kubuntu or install option on the boot menu didn't work. Hung at boot.
[12:58] <lupine_85> just ./<NVIDIA-INSTALLER>.run --uninstall
[12:58] <lupine_85> I don't have the name of the nvidia installer file in my memory, however
[12:58] <karmikaze> ok ty, i will try
[12:58] <HailandKill> *Acer Aspire, that is.
[12:59] <dave> ttfn
[01:11] (karmikaze/#kubuntu) cheers lupine_85
[01:12] (karmikaze/#kubuntu) ick
[01:12] <karmikaze> stupid netsplit
[01:12] <karmikaze> ...
[01:12] <karmikaze> which side am i on!?
[01:12] <lupine_85> this side :p
[01:12] <karmikaze> lol
[01:12] <Ace2016> Hi all
[01:12] <Ace2016> Where do i get openoffice 2.1?
[01:13] <HymnToLife> Ace2016, http://www.openoffice.org
[01:13] <Ace2016> but i want it from a repo
[01:13] <lupine_85> !info openoffice.org feisty
[01:14] <lupine_85> !botsnack
[01:14] <lupine_85> nooooooooo! ubotu!
[01:14] <linx-> its gone
[01:14] <lupine_85> :'(
[01:14] <linx-> ubotu was booted
[01:14] <Ace2016> by who?
[01:14] <lupine_85> :'( :'(
[01:14] <ubotu> openoffice.org: OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.4-7ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 3 kB, installed size 28 kB
[01:14] <linx-> or not..
[01:14] <Ace2016> how can you kick a bot out?
[01:14] <linx-> it is listed
[01:14] <ubotu> Yum!
[01:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about was booted - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:15] <lupine_85> phew :)
[01:15] <karmikaze> :O
[01:15] <linx-> i saw ubotu fly out of the channel earlier, with the split
[01:15] <karmikaze> hehe
[01:15] <lupine_85> !info openoffice.org edgy
[01:15] <ubotu> openoffice.org: OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.4-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 3 kB, installed size 28 kB
[01:15] <linx-> but appearently it got back :)
[01:15] <lupine_85> !info openoffice.org feisty
[01:15] <ubotu> openoffice.org: OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.4-7ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 3 kB, installed size 28 kB
[01:15] <lupine_85> nah, not in feisty either
[01:15] <darkkish_> hey
[01:15] <darkkish_> i need help again
[01:15] <darkkish_> no no don't give me !ask
[01:15] <darkkish_> i'm getting there...
[01:16] <HymnToLife> !ask
[01:16] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:16] <darkkish_> Ok so in kde you can right click the task bar and add an "external task bar"
[01:16] <Ace2016> what would have been funny was if lots pf people did !ask streight away
[01:16] <siraj> hello
[01:16] <Ace2016> Hi
[01:17] <siraj> hows it goin'
[01:17] <HymnToLife> darkkish_, yeah, AFAIK the feature was too much user-confusing
[01:17] <HymnToLife> so it was remove from GNOME
[01:18] <darkkish_> ok well
[01:18] <darkkish_> i have that working but
[01:18] <darkkish_> i want the bottom task bar to show only the tasks on my current desktop
[01:18] <darkkish_> and the top menu to show ALL of my apps
[01:19] <Jucato> I don't think that's possible. there's only one setting that controls all taskbars
[01:20] <Jucato> (taskbar applets)
[01:20] <oem> well i finally got Root to work
[01:20] <oem> with kubuntu
[01:20] <linx-> i have two problems with kweather (2.1.0): one is, i have the kweater panel applet running.. but it won't give weather info for any station i select in the list.. just will default to the non-existent weather station 0000.. and bug me about the requested weather station being unknown.
[01:21] <oem> anyone know how i can get a cpu/ram monitor on my desktop running all the time?
[01:21] <oem> and the weather etc.
[01:22] <bluebunny> Darkkish: right click any empty space on the panel, click configure panel, click the taskbar button on the left, and uncheck "show windows from all desktops."
[01:22] <farion> hello
[01:22] <darkkish_> so there is no way to do what i want to do Jucato
[01:22] <oem> no because jews suck
[01:22] <oem> lol
[01:22] <Jucato> darkkish_: none that I know of
[01:22] <Jucato> oem: please refrain from making comments like that. thanks
[01:22] <farion> there are only two items in my kcontrol (feisty) - how can i get kcontrol back?
[01:23] <oem> k
[01:23] <HymnToLife> !coc | oem
[01:23] <ubotu> oem: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[01:23] <Rug> I have tried to upgrade from dapper to edgy 3 times now, and each time Kde becomes an unstable mess.  If I nuke everything and install Edgy fresh can I expect more KDE stability?
[01:23] <siraj>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>
[01:24] <HymnToLife> siraj, thank Whoever you didn't put your real pw here ;)
[01:24] <jbruckman> Rug: Yeah, I use Kubuntu Edgy, and it works OK for me.
[01:24] <bluebunny> Rug: not sure, but probably.
[01:24] <jbruckman> Rug: but i had a lot of problems at first, most of which due to audio(my hardware is a bit...customized though)
[01:24] <Rug> ok, thanks for the warning
[01:25] <HymnToLife> Rug, yeah, a clean install is definitely far less troublesmone than an upgrade
[01:25] <jbruckman> Rug: yeah. every problem i've ever had with ubuntu has regarded hardware recognition.
[01:25] <jbruckman> Rug: Fedora never had that problem with my hardware, but it had other problems...
[01:26] <Rug> I love KDE apps and back-end (DCOP) but I hate it as a WM, so I usually use Fluxbox as my WM on top of kde backend.
[01:27] <Rug> HymnToLife: to flux or rpm?
[01:27] <farion> does nobody knows, how to get kcontrol back?
[01:27] <HymnToLife> to RPM
[01:27] <HymnToLife> I'm a KDE die-hard since 1999 so I can't agree wqith you on Flux :p
[01:27] <kkathman> farion:  just alt-f2 and type kcontrol
[01:27] <kkathman> then edit your k-menu and replace system settings with kcontrol if you want
[01:28] <HymnToLife> @time Paris
[01:28] <Ubugtu> Current time in Europe/Paris: December 22 2006, 01:28:14
[01:28] <HymnToLife> damn
[01:28] <HymnToLife> I need to go to bed
[01:28] <farion> i know howto start kcontrol, but kcontrol is empty - there are only two useless entries
[01:28] <kkathman> odd
[01:28] <HymnToLife> farion, looks like an issue we had in Debian a while ago
[01:28] <kkathman> its full on my system
[01:28] <Jucato> farion: tried reinstalling it? sudo apt-get install --reinstall kcontrol
[01:29] <farion> allready done
[01:29] <Rug> Thank-god for RedHat though, without them a lot of peeps would have never had a chance to try linux.  My first experience was RedHat v5.2, it came on floppies.  Worked ok on my 386DX40, but there were no apps, so it only lasted a week.
[01:29] <HymnToLife> farion, do all the KControl modules appear in Lost & Found ?
[01:29] <HymnToLife> Rug, my first was Debian Slink, we already had CDs then :p
[01:29] <jbruckman> @time chicago
[01:30] <Ubugtu> Current time in America/Chicago: December 21 2006, 18:29:59
[01:30] <farion> you mean K->Lost&Found (Nicht zuzuordnen)
[01:30] <HymnToLife> farion, yep
[01:31] <darkkish_> so are there places where you can download new apps? like a secondary taskbar app that shows all of the taskbars at once?
[01:31] <darkkish_> even if your other task bar app only shows the taskbar on that desktop space
[01:31] <farion> yes, there are a lot of the missing items
[01:32] <darkkish_> lol
[01:33] <farion> but not complete - i think - changing the theme is missing
[01:33] <Syath> Gah, I'm still trying to figure out how to install .tar.gz files
[01:33] <oem> o
[01:33] <Syath> I know how to install them in synaptic
[01:33] <ironfroggy_LT> i have plugged in my new camera to the USB port, which took me to system:/media/camera and it lists two directories there. if i click either, it just takes me to system:/media/camera/camera which lists the same two directories as unknown types of files, not directories.
[01:33] <ironfroggy_LT> any idea here?
[01:34] <bluebunny> Syath: tar -xvf tarfile.tar
[01:35] <farion> is there a fix for the kcontrol-problem?
[01:35] <LinuxTechnician> so whats shakin
[01:36] <LinuxTechnician> jesus lol
[01:36] <HymnToLife> farion, which Ubuntu verison are you using ?
[01:37] <farion> feisty
[01:37] <bluebunny> What is up with everybody joining the channel at the same time?
[01:37] <jbruckman> lol
[01:37] <jbruckman> ?
[01:37] <jbruckman> i think something got reset server end.
[01:38] <HymnToLife> farion, all right, try this :      sudo cp /etc/xdg/menus/kde-applications-merged/kde-essential.menu /etc/xdg/menus/applications-merged
[01:38] <HymnToLife> we had the same bug in Debian a while ago
[01:38] <jbruckman> haha, ok
[01:38] <jbruckman> i'm out. ciao
[01:38] <Jucato> that would be strange... as #debian is on OFTC... while we're on Freenode... coincidence? or conspiracy? :P
[01:39] <farion> kde-essential.menu is allready in /etc/xdg/menus/applications-merged
[01:39] <HymnToLife> Jucato, that was for farion (and there's a #debian on FN too)
[01:39] <HymnToLife> farion, hmm
[01:39] <Jucato> ah
[01:39] <farion> and kde-essential.menu does not exist
[01:40] <HymnToLife> make up your mind, either it's in /etc/xdg/menus/applications-merged or it does not exist
[01:41] <farion> locate only shows /etc/xdg/menus/applications-merged/kde-essential.menu
[01:43] <HymnToLife> so maybe that's your problem because the file list for kdebase-data in feisty says it shoud be in /etc/xdg/menus/kde-applications-merged/
[01:44] <farion> apt-file says this too - i have this problem on three machines with a new installation
[01:44] <HymnToLife> try reinstalling kdebase-data
[01:45] <HymnToLife> and if it doesn't work, well, you'll have to copy all the files manually
[01:45] <HymnToLife> and maybe you should file a bug for it
[01:46] <farion> did not work
[01:46] <HymnToLife> !bug
[01:46] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[01:47] <farion> year - "cp /etc/xdg/menus/applications-merged/kde-essential.menu /etc/xdg/menus/kde-application-merged" works
[01:50] (izauro/#kubuntu) como le hago?
[01:50] (HymnToLife/#kubuntu) !es | izauro
[01:50] (ubotu/#kubuntu) izauro: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[01:51] (izauro/#kubuntu) ok
[01:52] <deviant> Needing help, Keep getting this error when I try to sudo make all make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[01:53] <lupine_85> what it says
[01:53] <lupine_85> that directory should be a symlink to your kernel's headers
[01:53] <lupine_85> so presumably you don't have linux-headers-2.6.15-23-386 installed
[01:53] <deviant> I downloaded the linux source same thing?
[01:54] <lupine_85> linux source != linux headers
[01:55] <DarkWizdom> almost the same*
[01:55] <darkkish_> how can i make the dock application bar smaller?
[01:55] <lupine_85> DarkWizdom: linux-headers is a couple of config files and a lot of symlinks...
[01:56] <DarkWizdom> yes, so they are not same as source :|
[01:57] <campbch> what's a good p2p program like amule or whatever that doesn't deal with lowids and such?
[01:58] <deviant> Okay, Downloaded the linux headers make all worked.. Now I can't mkdir o.O
[01:58] <deviant> lol sorry abit of a n00b at this stuff.
[02:01] <Tesla> campbch: its a generally a lame question
[02:01] <farion> how can i start guidance-power-manager?
[02:02] <Omnifrog> is there an Xlogical package for kubuntu?
[02:03] <darkkish_> xlogical?
[02:03] <Omnifrog> the game Xlogical
[02:05] <deviant> lol How do you edit stuff with vi?
[02:05] <bluebunny> Omnifrog: I just did a search in Synaptic and couldn't find Xlogical.
[02:05] <Omnifrog> ya, me too
[02:05] <darkkish_> farion: type it into run or konsole
[02:05] <Omnifrog> thats why i asked in here
[02:06] <bluebunny> Omnifrog: what kind of game is it?
[02:07] <xwolf-> !wav
[02:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wav - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:07] <Omnifrog> its cool. balls come out and you move them around. it's better then an orgasem
[02:07] <Jucato> deviant: just use nano... :P
[02:07] <lupine_85> !vi
[02:07] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[02:07] <farion> guidance-power-manager shows this error in a terminal power-manager: ERROR: Communication problem with power-manager, it probably chrashed.
[02:07] <lupine_85> lol, that's useful
[02:07] <lupine_85> vi has edit and command moders
[02:08] <lupine_85> takes some getting used to
[02:08] <xwolf-> i'm having problems playing a particular wav file... codecs missing?
[02:08] <Jucato> takes *a lot* of getting used to :)
[02:08] <lupine_85> Jucato: that too :p
[02:22] <deviant> Anyone in here ever try to set up a Linksys Wireless PCI card?
[02:23] <darkkish> yeah i have
[02:23] <darkkish> i never got it to work though
[02:23] <darkkish> sorry
[02:23] <darkkish> i really like xubuntu
[02:23] <darkkish> you can have a panel at the top that shows ALL of the running apps
[02:23] <darkkish> and at the same time have one at the bottom that only shows the current running apps
[02:23] <darkkish> er
[02:23] <darkkish> the apps on that desktop
[02:24] <Jucato> that's a "minimize to icon" feature. not really a taskbar
[02:24] <CMeKillMyRouter> you can do that with kubuntu too
[02:24] <CMeKillMyRouter> iirc
[02:27] <darkkish> what Jucato?
[02:27] <darkkish> CMeKillMyRouter: how can i do that in kubuntu?
[02:27] <hanan> how could I copy the window manager theme of kubuntu to somewhere else (crystal theme)
[02:27] <hanan> ?
[02:28] <darkkish> and Jucato it is not a miminize to icon feature, its a taskbar.
[02:28] <Jucato> hanan: it's a package: kwin-style-crystal
[02:28] <Jucato> darkkish: oh ok. not really familiar with Xubuntu lately
[02:29] <hanan> Jucato: do you know where it installs to?
[02:29] <darkkish> CMeKillMyRouter: you there?
[02:30] <hanan> or how can I list the files installed by a package?
[02:30] <Jucato> hanan: it's not just a simple configuration file. it installs plugins/small programs (.so). so it's not a simple matter of copying it from one machine to another
[02:30] <hanan> ah
[02:30] <Jucato> installing a window decoration is like installing a program
[02:31] <Jucato> hanan: you can just download the kwin-style-crystal.deb file and install it on another machine, though
[02:31] <hanan> Jucato: assuming the other machine runs debian/derivitive
[02:31] <Jucato> yep
[02:31] <hanan> Jucato: but thanks very muchly =)
[02:31] <Jucato> otherwise, you'd have to compile the source code...
[02:32] <Jucato> hanan: as for theother question, how to se files installed by a package: dpkg -L <packagename>
[02:34] <CMeKillMyRouter> yes
[02:34] <CMeKillMyRouter> I'm there
[02:34] <CMeKillMyRouter> but I don't know how
[02:34] <CMeKillMyRouter> I'm killing my router and trying to talk to my ISP
[02:34] <CMeKillMyRouter> their DNS resolvers are down
[02:34] <CMeKillMyRouter> or one of them is
[02:40] <darkkish> yeah xubuntu is my new favorite lappy OS
[02:40] <darkkish> sorry kubuntu lol
[02:41] <CMeKillMyRouter> yes it's good for laptops
[02:41] <CMeKillMyRouter> kubuntu for desktops
[02:41] <CMeKillMyRouter> however kubuntu will be on my Dell XPS
[02:42] <darkkish> yeah
[02:42] <darkkish> xubuntu is just nice because this is only a 750Mhz pIII with 512MB of 133Mhz ram
[02:42] <darkkish> sad no?
[02:42] <darkkish> but i like it
[02:43] <CMeKillMyRouter> hey I ran KUBUNTU on a 300 MHZ
[02:43] <darkkish> haha i'm not saying its impossible
[02:43] <CMeKillMyRouter> (it had 512 MB ram tho)
[02:43] <darkkish> i actually kindof like the layout of xubuntu more
[02:43] <CMeKillMyRouter> ;-)
[02:43] <darkkish> for some things
[02:43] <darkkish> not for all things
[02:44] <Tesla> hehe. you wount believe but i installed kubuntu on 188 MHz Pentium MMX
[02:44] <darkkish> lol why?
[02:44] <darkkish> archaic
[02:44] <darkkish> damn
[02:44] <darkkish> why is there no heat :(
[02:44] <darkkish> i'm getting no heat in my apt
[02:44] <Jucato> hmm....
[02:44] <darkkish> its freaking freezing mr bigglesworth
[02:44] <darkkish> oh well back to doing what i was doing before
[02:44] <darkkish> rewriting the ending to romeo and juliet
[02:45] <darkkish> jucato would you like me to send you a screeny?
[02:45] <Jucato> darkkish: please?
[02:45] <darkkish>  mk
[02:45] <Brokenrgv> hiya ppl anyone have probs with amarok mtp support after the latet open office patch?  sounds weird i know
[02:46] <Tesla> Brokenrgv: what is mtp ?
[02:46] <darkkish> i'm getting a konversation error
[02:46] <darkkish> "cannot talk to klauncher"
[02:46] <Jucato> :O
[02:46] <darkkish> i assume thats bevcause i'm not currently running kde
[02:47] <Jucato> darkkish: hm.. imageshack?
[02:47] <darkkish> umm
[02:47] <darkkish> yeah
[02:47] <darkkish> i guess
[02:47] <Tesla> darkkish: unregistered users cant talk privatly
[02:47] <Brokenrgv> some microsoft thing that mp3 players like creatives zen visiom m use
[02:47] <Brokenrgv> ther eis i aamarok irc chat isnt there
[02:47] <Tesla> Brokenrgv: oh i see. dont have it.
[02:48] <Jucato> Brokenrgv: yes. #amarok
[02:49] <darkkish> what tesla?
[02:50] <Tesla> darkkish: you are unregistered on irc here. so you cant talk privatly with ppl
[02:50] <darkkish> i forgot my stupid photobucket account/passworfd
[02:50] <darkkish> tesla i'm not trying to talk privately with anyone...
[02:50] <Tesla> darkkish: use www.imageshack.us
[02:50] <Tesla> ;-)
[02:50] <karmikaze> compiz or beryl??
[02:50] <karmikaze> beryl is the cube right
[02:51] <TheDebugger> Compiz == beryl
[02:51] <TheDebugger> Beryl is a fork
[02:51] <TheDebugger> beryl is the future ;)
[02:51] <darkkish> http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/1088/screenshottl1.png
[02:51] <darkkish> @ Jucato
[02:52] <karmikaze> ok
[02:52] <Jucato> darkkish: thanks. opening now
[02:52] <karmikaze> beryl ftw then
[02:52] <darkkish> karmikaze: see thats what i've been trying to do
[02:52] <karmikaze> ooh
[02:52] <darkkish> karmikaze: i ended up doing it in xubuntu instead
[02:52] <karmikaze> hrm
[02:52] <Jucato> darkkish: oh kool. let me try to see if it can be done in KDE :)
[02:53] <darkkish> kk
[02:53] <islsm_usb> !xinerama
[02:53] <ubotu> xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[02:53] <RoboMoore> Why don't you message scry that command next time?
[02:53] <RoboMoore> hmmm
[02:53] <RoboMoore> errors in system
[02:54] <izauro> hello
[02:54] <izauro> i need help
[02:54] <izauro> i need configure my card
[02:54] <izauro> sound card
[02:55] <izauro> anybody can help me?
[02:56] <izauro> is anybody here?
[02:56] <ForgeAus> hey all
[02:56] <ForgeAus> sup?
[02:56] <izauro> anybody can help me?
[02:57] <ForgeAus> izauro, just ask what your problem is, not sure I will know the answer tho
[02:57] <izauro> ok
[02:57] <izauro> i need configurate my sound card
[02:57] <ForgeAus> erm I think its configure, but anyhow, go on
[02:57] <izauro> my sound card is Analog Device AD1981b
[02:58] <ForgeAus> doesn't sound familiar, but are you getting an error message? or can you not find a driver?
[02:58] <izauro> well
[02:59] <izauro> the system it recognize me how INTEL ICH5
[02:59] <izauro> my sound card is Analog Device AD1981b not INTEL ICH5
[03:00] <izauro> the sound is very bad
[03:00] <karmikaze> what issues did you have darkkish_
[03:00] <ForgeAus> can you do a search on google or something to find the right driver?
[03:00] <karmikaze> who wants to put down a success percent of being able to install beryl :P
[03:00] <darkkish_> with what karmikaze?
[03:00] <ForgeAus> it may be more difficult, as in a tarball to install :(
[03:00] <karmikaze> 40% chance i'll install it and itll work?
[03:01] <karmikaze> 20%?
[03:01] <izauro> ok
[03:01] <izauro> i will return winxp
[03:01] <ForgeAus> karm... lol no idea
[03:01] <bluebunny> Izauro: I'd help, but I don't really know much about configuring sound.  All I can say is, try poking around in System Settings.
[03:01] <ForgeAus> I havn't tried it
[03:01] <ForgeAus> izauro.. why? can't you browse inside your *nix box?)
[03:01] <karmikaze> heh
[03:02] <karmikaze> lets put it this way, anyone here have beryl working in kubuntu?
[03:02] <izauro> ubuntu is very dificult for me
[03:02] <ForgeAus> wow how'd I add gnome to my kubuntu?
[03:02] <ForgeAus> it wasn't there before
[03:02] <darkkish_> i'm going to go afk for about 30 or 35 minutes
[03:02] <lupine_85> karmikaze: I use it :)
[03:02] <darkkish_> if you need me pm me
[03:02] <karmikaze> heh
[03:02] <bluebunny> Luckily, sound just works for me.
[03:02] <ForgeAus> karmi there is a repository to install it from within adept
[03:02] <lupine_85> 80% chance of it working, overall :)
[03:02] <kory> beryl works great in Kubuntu
[03:02] <karmikaze> ok cool
[03:02] <ForgeAus> brows the net I can't remmeber hte page but you can find it
[03:02] <karmikaze> i'll give it a go then :)
[03:02] <karmikaze> ive got kubuntu to a nice state, just wondering if i should risk breaking it already lol
[03:02] <lupine_85> see the wiki for a full installation guide
[03:02] <ForgeAus> just remember kubuntu already has one of those abbrevs installed into it
[03:03] <ForgeAus> XFG or something
[03:03] <ForgeAus> that beryl needs
[03:03] <lupine_85> wiki.beryl-project.org
[03:03] <karmikaze> yeah lookin at the wiki now :)
[03:03] <izauro> i speak spanish
[03:03] <ForgeAus> XUG
[03:03] <lupine_85> !es
[03:03] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:03] <lupine_85> :)
[03:03] <ForgeAus> some kinda tla anyhow
[03:03] <ForgeAus> (tla = three letter acronym if you didn't already know)
[03:03] <ForgeAus> and I'm sure there was an x in there somewhere for this particular one
[03:04] <ForgeAus> everythings different in gnome! um how do I extend a partition without unmounting it?
[03:04] <izauro> i prefer winxp
[03:04] <ForgeAus> (theres space to extend it into
[03:04] <izauro> i prefer gates
[03:05] <izauro> no its true
[03:05] <izauro> jjeje
[03:05] <ForgeAus> izauro thats fair, but I'd like you to consider trying to get used to your linux box
[03:05] <izauro> its not true
[03:05] <ForgeAus> or whatever installation you are using for ubuntu
[03:05] <bluebunny> Torvalds all the way, baby.
[03:05] <ForgeAus> well the point of being free is more than enough for me lol
[03:06] <ForgeAus> and I hate working around wga
[03:06] <ForgeAus> I mean its ok for windows defender just use the -qr switch!
[03:06] <ForgeAus> but for ie7 and wmp11 its a pain
[03:07] <CMeKillMyRouter> wga is such a pain what were they thinking :(
[03:07] <ForgeAus> still I have to admit I'm currently using vmware to run my Kubuntu! rofl
[03:07] <ForgeAus> they were thinking of protecting their investment, its all about the money and licenses
[03:07] <CMeKillMyRouter> well tis a pain for AVERAGE USERS
[03:08] <CMeKillMyRouter> my mom even said "they think I'm some criminal?"
[03:08] <CMeKillMyRouter> shammmmme.
[03:08] <ForgeAus> um technically
[03:09] <ForgeAus> if you didn't pay for windowsXP you ARE a criminal
[03:09] <darkkish_> whatg the hellllllll
[03:09] <darkkish_> theres no heat
[03:09] <ForgeAus> but the fact that you are is rediculous imho..
[03:09] <darkkish_> OR HOT WATER
[03:09] <darkkish_> -_-
[03:09] <CMeKillMyRouter> smooth criminal
[03:09] <bluebunny> Some people are of the opinion that computers shouldn't have passwords.
[03:10] <ForgeAus> lol CMe
[03:10] <ForgeAus> personally I find ReactOS interesting
[03:10] <ForgeAus> lol a free windows...
[03:10] <ForgeAus> well its left in the dark ages but its still interesting
[03:11] <darkkish_> well i think comps should have passwords
[03:11] <darkkish_> but don't think you should have to get root to change the time on the clock
[03:11] <ForgeAus> I don't think they're necessary I believe they should be optional
[03:11] <darkkish_> i think people should just be more careful about locking thier computers when they walk away
[03:11] <darkkish_> and the only time you shoudl have to type it, is when logging on, or unlocking
[03:12] <Jucato> darkkish_: you need admin privs to change the time on the clock, because setting the wrong time could mess up the system (like sudo)
[03:12] <darkkish_> -_-
[03:12] <darkkish_> well why can't i always be su?
[03:12] <Jucato> !root | darkkish_
[03:12] <ubotu> darkkish_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:12] <deviant> w00t got Linksys wireless card working.
[03:12] <bluebunny> I prefer wine if I actually need to run a Windoze program, but the only thing I ever use it for is Diablo II.
[03:13] <ForgeAus> darkkish thats ecause you'd open yourself up to virus' etc that way
[03:13] <BluesKaj> maybe , maybe not , really passwords are at best a thin wall for predators , I'm talking about windoze of course :)
[03:13] <ForgeAus> lol diablo 2 interesting
[03:13] <darkkish_> sudo means
[03:13] <Jucato> well, not really viruses, but more of crackers
[03:13] <darkkish_> superuser do
[03:13] <darkkish_> so why can't i always be super user
[03:13] <ForgeAus> wine's interesting itself actually
[03:13] <darkkish_> instead of constantly having to re su every time i change the simplest setting?
[03:13] <ForgeAus> is there any other windows layer program for *nix?... what does crossover office actually give you?
[03:14] <darkkish_> cedega, crossover, wine
[03:14] <darkkish_> thats all i know ove
[03:14] <darkkish_> of
[03:14] <Jucato> darkkish_: on the command line, sudo will rememer your password for a few minutes (10 or 15, I think)
[03:14] <deviant> Cedega is great is you wish to pay everymonth just to play your games.
[03:14] <ForgeAus> cedega?
[03:14] <darkkish_> no lol
[03:14] <darkkish_> its more like 2 minutes Jucato
[03:14] <Jucato> hm...
[03:14] <ForgeAus> crossover is not free either
[03:14] <darkkish_> anyways have you figured out how to do what i want to do yet jucato?
[03:14] <Jucato> darkkish_: "The password is stored by default for 15 minutes. After that time, you will need to enter your password again."
[03:15] <darkkish_> deviant: cedega is free
[03:15] <deviant> Eh?
[03:15] <Jucato> that's from the RootSudo page. you might want to read it
[03:15] <darkkish_> deviant: you only have to pay for support
[03:15] <ForgeAus> still what does crossover let you do ?
[03:15] <darkkish_> you can find free versions of cedega though
[03:15] <Jucato> Cedega CVS is free (and unsupported)
[03:15] <deviant> Is it outdated?
[03:15] <Jucato> darkkish_: haven't found a way yet. it's the 2nd thing that Xfce has over KDE, when it comes to customization
[03:15] <darkkish_> yeah
[03:15] <darkkish_> um
[03:15] <darkkish_> idk
[03:15] <darkkish_> it runs wow on my desktop
[03:15] <darkkish_> perfectly
[03:16] <darkkish_> but it was a pain in the ass
[03:16] <darkkish_> you actually have to install the programs in cedega
[03:16] <darkkish_> you can't just run any already installed proggy
[03:16] <darkkish_> what is the first Jucato?
[03:16] <Jucato> darkkish_: the ability to make your own menus on the panel
[03:16] <deviant> Had Cedega at one time, It was kind of a pain... But if there's a free version I might have to rethink using my windows to play games heh.
[03:17] <darkkish_> ok shower has finally warmed up guys
[03:17] <darkkish_> i'll be back in a few
[03:17] <bluebunny> Lol.
[03:18] <bluebunny> I should have said that when I went to Mcdonalds.
[03:20] <ForgeAus> how do I grow the system partition?
[03:21] <ForgeAus> I got space to grow it in but under gnome I need to unmount it... and thats not possible
[03:21] <ForgeAus> at least not if I'm booting off it
[03:22] <bluebunny> Try from a rescue CD.
[03:23] <islsm_usb> .
[03:23] <ForgeAus> like you mean use a live install?
[03:23] <ForgeAus> ie my Kubuntu iso?
[03:23] <ForgeAus> sorry live CD or whatever its called
[03:23] <ForgeAus> if I do that how do I run Gnome or QT partition editor?
[03:23] <ForgeAus> is it built into the liveCD?
[03:24] <bluebunny> Yeah, sort of, but they actually have Linux CDs with utilities on them just for that sort of thing.
[03:24] <bluebunny> Try a google search for linux rescue cd.
[03:25] <Admiral_Chicago> Knoppix is a good CD for that
[03:25] <BluesKaj> rescue cd ? there's one in the grub
[03:25] <ForgeAus> ahh I got one of them
[03:25] <ForgeAus> lessee
[03:25] <Admiral_Chicago> it's the best LiveCD
[03:26] <ForgeAus> knoppix5en right?
[03:26] <CMeKillMyRouter> knoppix is awesome :D
[03:26] <ForgeAus> I like kubuntu better...
[03:26] <ForgeAus> but knoppix is interesting... I think I messed it up somehow trying to change window managers tho
[03:27] <bluebunny> http://www.sysresccd.org/
[03:27] <ForgeAus> (ended up wiht just a grey bar down the bottom that seemed to do nothing)
[03:27] <karmikaze> ok beryl just went a bit crazy >_>
[03:27] <DarkWizdom> cannot start knoppix as it does not support booting from scsi drives -_-
[03:27] <Lathiat> Beryl on crack: news at noon ;)
[03:28] <karmikaze> lol
[03:28] <ForgeAus> wow nice URL
[03:28] <Misfit> hm
[03:28] <ForgeAus> I aren't up to beryl yet
[03:28] <karmikaze> ok beryl-manager kinda works i think
[03:28] <karmikaze> hrmm
[03:28] <Misfit> Why does 'Home' hide the '/.kde' folder?
[03:28] <karmikaze> ok nice
[03:28] <karmikaze> whered all my titlebars go to?
[03:28] <ForgeAus> what do you mean kinda?
[03:28] <karmikaze> well i think its working
[03:28] <karmikaze> cept all my titlebars are gone
[03:28] <Lathiat> karmikaze: you need to run a separate window decorator with beryl
[03:28] <karmikaze> ooh
[03:28] <Lathiat> i.e. emerald or some such
[03:28] <karmikaze> okie
[03:28] <karmikaze> cheers
[03:28] <Lathiat> or gtk-window-decorator, or whatever
[03:29] <karmikaze> ta
[03:30] <ForgeAus> wow nice!
[03:30] <ForgeAus> a decorator? um whats kde's decorator?
[03:30] <ForgeAus> can you run that inside beryl?
[03:31] <DarkWizdom> O.o
[03:31] <DarkWizdom> sure you can :)
[03:31] <Jucato> aquamarine for Beryl on KDE, afaik
[03:31] <ForgeAus> grrr I ran out of space I can't download the system rescue iso inside the drive I need more space in rofl!
[03:31] <karmikaze> hrmm the theme isnt updating
[03:31] <karmikaze> emerald..
[03:32] <ForgeAus> what do you mean beryl ON kde?
[03:32] <DarkWizdom> ForgeAus: what sise hdd do you have? :)
[03:32] <ForgeAus> I think my HDD is ide not scsi
[03:32] <bluebunny> sudo rm -rf /
[03:32] <ForgeAus> but good to know about Knoppix and no scsi
[03:33] <bluebunny> Don't type that.
[03:33] <karmikaze> lol
[03:33] <ForgeAus> intersting that VMware like scsi tho
[03:33] <ForgeAus> I don't have any scsi devices! rofl
[03:33] <DarkWizdom> usb devises are regarded as scsi too
[03:33] <DarkWizdom> I meant them
[03:33] <ForgeAus> I think I'll d/l the iso in my host OS
[03:33] <ForgeAus> (ie WinXP)
[03:33] <DarkWizdom> (I have external usb cd-rom)
[03:35] <ForgeAus> is NeXTstep a VWM?
[03:35] <ForgeAus> (I mean for me I guess it'd be OpenSTEP or whatever but pretty much based on NeXTStep right?)
[03:36] <ForgeAus> *nix is confusing lol
[03:36] <ForgeAus> mostly because theres so much choice
[03:36] <DarkWizdom> I would suggest sticking to one distro at first
[03:36] <ForgeAus> well I'm basing myself around Kubuntu but I managed to gnomeize it! so its kinda kubuntu -> ubuntuized
[03:37] <bluebunny> Weird.
[03:37] <DarkWizdom> lol
[03:37] <karmikaze> my emerald themes arent changing
[03:37] <karmikaze> any ideas?
[03:37] <ForgeAus> kubuntu is my base install anyway
[03:37] <karmikaze> or is emerald only for gnome or something
[03:37] <ForgeAus> what is emerald anyway?
[03:37] <karmikaze> beryl theme manager
[03:37] <fiendskull9> karmikaze: emerald is for beryl
[03:37] <fiendskull9> yes
[03:37] <Jucato> karmikaze: I think aquamarine is the decoration engine for Beryl on KDE
[03:37] <fiendskull9> beryl is the backend
[03:37] <fiendskull9> for the 3d stuff
[03:38] <fiendskull9> Jucato: correct
[03:38] <ForgeAus> yeah aquamarine sounds familiar
[03:38] <karmikaze> ok i'll try getting aquamarine
[03:38] <fiendskull9> if u install beryl
[03:38] <fiendskull9> it should auto install emerald or AM
[03:38] <DarkWizdom> Jucato: emerald works perfect too
[03:38] <karmikaze> hrm
[03:38] <Jucato> DarkWizdom: then help karmikaze :)
[03:38] <ForgeAus> ok in kdm (thats the login screen right?)... I can choose kde or gnome, is there more choices I can install into there?
[03:38] <karmikaze> everything is working for beryl but the theme DarkWizdom
[03:39] <karmikaze> im going to try aquamarine
[03:39] <Jucato> ForgeAus: as many window managers/desktop environments that you can install
[03:39] <DarkWizdom> karmikaze
[03:39] <DarkWizdom> try running
[03:39] <karmikaze> yeah DarkWizdom
[03:39] <DarkWizdom> beryl-manager
[03:39] <karmikaze> yep done
[03:39] <DarkWizdom> beryl-settings
[03:39] <ForgeAus> jucato so beryl (when I get my diskspace sorted out)
[03:39] <karmikaze> ok
[03:39] <Jucato> ForgeAus: Beryl is a bit more complicated
[03:39] <karmikaze> ok
[03:40] <ForgeAus> and possibly XFCE (xubuntu?) or the menu based one that only has the sleek black slider down the bottom...
[03:40] <DarkWizdom> emerald should be intalled
[03:40] <karmikaze> yeah DarkWizdom i see emerald
[03:40] <karmikaze> and i see the themes
[03:40] <DarkWizdom> and you change themes through beryl-manager
[03:40] <karmikaze> but they arent changing
[03:40] <DarkWizdom> hmm
[03:40] <ForgeAus> FVwM is oldskool right?
[03:41] <karmikaze> ForgeAus: i used to LOOOOVE fvwm ;D
[03:41] <ForgeAus> (seems like windows-style is known as redmond?? in *nix FVwM was intended to be redmond-ish..)
[03:41] <karmikaze> but it takes ages to set up nicely
[03:41] <ForgeAus> karmi, I had it in an ancient linux I installed once
[03:41] <karmikaze> heheh yeah
[03:41] <DarkWizdom> karmikaze: try aquamarine then :D
[03:41] <karmikaze> i had fvwm for years on gentoo
[03:41] <ForgeAus> but the only thing I used that systme for was to play spider solitare! rofl
[03:41] <ForgeAus> beryl sounds interesting tho
[03:42] <ForgeAus> what other VWM's are good?
[03:42] <ForgeAus> any?
[03:42] <ForgeAus> whats ICE vwm?
[03:42] <ForgeAus> and Windowmaker?
[03:42] <karmikaze> ForgeAus: check this out! http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/5304724/
[03:42] <karmikaze> my old fvwm
[03:42] <darkkish_> hey what is the kde program that moniters your laptop battery?
[03:43] <ForgeAus> kewl DA :) I got some poetry up on that site
[03:43] <bluebunny> I remember when the desktop could be larger than the screen and you could scroll to the right or left.
[03:43] <sparr> who is responsible for the web design at kubuntu.org?
[03:44] <darkkish_> why?
[03:44] <ForgeAus> sparr, that sounds ominous
[03:44] <darkkish_> it looks like a wiki template to me
[03:44] <Hobbsee> sparr: Riddell, kwwii
[03:44] <Hobbsee> Riddell: what about it?
[03:45] <sparr> just wanted to point out that the top left logo can be overlapped by the top right tabs, they should probably be set to break (to a new line) if that happens
[03:45] <Jucato> CSS stuff...
[03:45] <sparr> aye
[03:46] <Jucato> true, if you're browser is not wide enough. although the logo itself is the only one covered, the work "Kubuntu" isn't
[03:46] <sparr> depends on how tall the tabs are
[03:46] <ForgeAus> is arklinux any good?
[03:47] <ForgeAus> I think I might ditch my knoppix
[03:47] <ForgeAus> and try something else instead
[03:47] <ForgeAus> (can always remake
[03:47] <ForgeAus> anyway I better reboot to a Partition editor... bbl
[03:47] <sparr> i see them covering the text too
[03:49] <bluebunny> Sparr: I had to make the window very small to break things.  Of course, I'm running at 1680 X 1050.
[03:49] <sparr> im running 1280x1024
[03:50] <sparr> but i have large fonts
[03:50] <Jucato> I'm running on 1024x768, and I have to make it really narrow to do that
[03:51] <BluesKaj> sparr, yer scrn must be really big or ya have yer fonts cranked up
[03:51] <darkkish_> well now this is a problem i never thought i would have
[03:51] <darkkish_> i installed flash via FireFox
[03:51] <sparr> BluesKaj: fonts about 2x average size
[03:51] <darkkish_> and i'm getting audio just fine
[03:52] <karmikaze> hrmm kicker has disapeared
[03:52] <darkkish_> but video isn't reaslly working
[03:52] <BluesKaj> yup, darkkish_ , it's the best way
[03:52] <karmikaze> how do i turn off beryl?
[03:53] <Jucato> karmikaze: maybe the gusy in #ubuntu-xgl would know
[03:53] <Kr4t05> karmikaze: 1. This isn't beryl. 2. Right click the beryl-manager icon in your tray and set the Window Manager to Kwin
[03:53] <bluebunny> Sparr: I'm glad that at least some people consider such things, but I've seen a lot worse sites.
[03:53] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get remove beryl :) ... just kidding of course
[03:53] <Kr4t05> #beryl*, rather
[03:53] <karmikaze> but kicker disapeared Kr4t05
[03:54] <karmikaze> anyway im in xgl
[03:54] <Kr4t05> karmikaze: ALT-F2 -> killall -9 beryl; kwin --replace
[03:54] <darkkish_> ok i guess video is working
[03:54] <darkkish_> just not on my friends myspace XD
[03:54] <darkkish_> sush :X
[03:54] <karmikaze> kk
[03:55] <karmikaze> thats better
[03:55] <Kr4t05> Ok, I have a unique TV out situation.
[03:55] <CMeKillMyRouter> kill
[03:55] <bluebunny> Sparr: I also increase my font size a lot, and it really bothers me when it breaks a page.
[03:56] <sparr> i dont consider 2x to be a lot
[03:56] <bluebunny> Nor do I.
[03:57] <brandon> ok i have a question about editing fstab. I have done it in the past but now when i give the command ' sudo kate /etc/fstab ' it gives me an error
[03:57] <WineMan> hmm
[03:57] <sparr> brandon: root probably doesnt have permission to send to your X server
[03:58] <bluebunny> Brandon: try emacs, vi, or nano.
[03:58] <sparr> brandon: try kdesu instead of sudo
[03:58] <cellofellow> elmer: hello
[03:59] <brandon> yeah it says something about x server but i did it in the past i don't know why it won't work. hold on i'll try this stuff
[03:59] <elmer> hey, cellofellow
[04:01] <bluebunny> Mythbusters left?  Hey, I watch that show.
[04:01] <brandon> ok i got it. See I was running the su command THEN trying to run sudo kate. It works now
[04:02] <bluebunny> Wow, Mythbusters is back.
[04:04] <brandon> now i have two hard drives connected to this computer but i can write to the secondary one. Can i change it so I can write to it in fstab or am I going to have to do something with permissions somewhere else
[04:05] <bluebunny> Brandon: as far as I know, you should be able to do this in fstab.
[04:05] <elmer> anyone know how to make wifi work on Acer Aspire 3502 with Atheros chip, kubuntu edgy?
[04:06] <brandon> right now it looks like this: /dev/hdd1 /mnt/Backup ext3 user,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
[04:06] <cellofellow> !anyone
[04:06] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:07] <DarkWizdom> "See I was running the su command THEN trying to run sudo kate" :D
[04:07] <DarkWizdom> elmer: you need madwifi drivers
[04:07] <brandon> what can I change to make it writeable to anyone? and yeah i'm a noob sorry about that.
[04:08] <elmer> Darkwizdom: then it just works?
[04:08] <bluebunny> I wish I knew. I'm a little rusty.
[04:08] <DarkWizdom> "and yeah i'm a noob sorry about that" not at all, was just funny :)
[04:08] <DarkWizdom> elmer: usually yes :)
[04:09] <cellofellow> brandon: my fstab just says defaults in the options list for my secondary hdd.
[04:10] <brandon> DarkWizdom: i thought it would have the same out put. I guess not.
[04:10] <cellofellow> if it matches the / partition it should just work.
[04:11] <DarkWizdom> brandon: try mounting like this /media/hda9 vfat umask=000 0 0
[04:11] <DarkWizdom> BUT
[04:11] <DarkWizdom> this is my fstab
[04:11] <DarkWizdom> convert it so that it matches yours
[04:12] <brandon> I tried defaults in the options and it still says access denied and ok i'll try that
[04:12] <DarkWizdom> try ;)
[04:12] <elmer> DarkWizdom; I have the linux-restricted-modules package installed, which claims to include madwifi. ifconfig shows both ath0: and wifi0:, both UP
[04:12] <cellofellow> what are the permissions of the accessing files?
[04:13] <Jucato> what filesystem type is it?
[04:13] <brandon> ext3
[04:13] <DarkWizdom> elmer: hm... but wifi doesn't work still?
[04:13] <brandon> and i don't know the permissions of the files
[04:13] <DarkWizdom> elmer: is etc/network/interfaces configured properly?
[04:15] <brandon> DarkWizdom: i don't want to sound horriblably bad at this but i don't know quite where to put what you just sent me in fstab
[04:15] <DarkWizdom> ok
[04:15] <DarkWizdom> paste your fstab please
[04:15] <DarkWizdom> !pastebin
[04:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:16] <brandon> paste it in pastebin then? not on here?
[04:17] <DarkWizdom> well, you can paste here too...
[04:17] <DarkWizdom> pastebin lookes nice :D
[04:17] <bluebunny> It couldn't be that long. Just paste it here.
[04:17] <DarkWizdom> ok
[04:18] <brandon> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[04:18] <brandon> #
[04:18] <brandon> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[04:18] <brandon> proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
[04:18] <brandon> /dev/hda1 / ext3 nouser,defaults,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 1
[04:18] <brandon> /dev/hda5 none swap sw 0 0
[04:18] <brandon> /dev/hdd1 /mnt/Backup ext3 defults,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
[04:18] <Tesla> :-) WARNING! LONG POST DETECTED :-)
[04:18] <DarkWizdom> :D
[04:18] <bluebunny> Lol.
[04:19] <darkkish_>  is kritia good
[04:19] <darkkish_>  is krita good?
[04:19] <Jucato> !pastebin | brandon
[04:19] <ubotu> brandon: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:19] <Jucato> next time...
[04:19] <cellofellow> kritia is ok
[04:20] <bluebunny> No.
[04:20] <bluebunny> I prefer the Gimp.
[04:20] <darkkish_> mk
[04:20] <Jucato> he was asking if it was good, not if it was better than the GIMP...
[04:20] <cellofellow> krita is ok, just ok.
[04:21] <Jucato> depends on what you need/use. Krita excells in painting, watercolor, and those natural stuff.
[04:21] <elmer> DarkWizdom: my /etc/network/interfaces file is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38305/
[04:21] <DarkWizdom> elmer: ok
[04:21] <bluebunny> It's supposed to be able to handle native Gimp files, but I have'nt had much luck with that.
[04:22] <Jucato> bluebunny: not really Krita's fault, as .xcf is not fully "open"
[04:22] <bluebunny> Hmmm...
[04:22] <karmikaze> hrm so aquamarine doesnt seem to work either
[04:23] <DarkWizdom> brandon: try this line: /dev/hdd1 /mnt/Backup ext3 umask=000 0 0
[04:23] <Jucato> bluebunny: the .xcf format itself is not fully documented. the only "documentation" is in the source code of the GIMP itself. that is, the format is essentially tied to the software. no other documentation provided
[04:23] <karmikaze> guess i can live without title bars :P
[04:23] <kory> karmikaze: you try 'aquamarine --replace'?
[04:23] <karmikaze> yep
[04:23] <brandon> how  can i register my name?
[04:24] <DarkWizdom> elmer: wi-fi with encription yeah?
[04:24] <Jucato> !register | brandon
[04:24] <ubotu> brandon: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[04:24] <matthew_> brandon, /nick brandon
[04:24] <kory> try reloading the window manager?
[04:24] <elmer> DarkWizdom: yeah
[04:24] <karmikaze> hrm
[04:25] <DarkWizdom> sorry, setting up wi-fi with encription is quite tough, and I haven't done it :(
[04:25] <DarkWizdom> will have to look through madwifi website
[04:25] <DarkWizdom> they have howto there
[04:25] <elmer> DarkWizdom: thank you; I'll try turning off encryption, too
[04:27] <DarkWizdom> elmer: no problem, here's approximate location of howto's: http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs
[04:27] <bluebunny> Jucato: I didn't know that.
[04:28] <bluebunny> Somebody should document the format.
[04:28] <Jucato> bluebunny: few people know. they just presume that since GIMP == open source, .xcf == "fully" open
[04:28] <elmer> DarkWizdom: again, thank you
[04:29] <Jucato> bluebunny: the GIMP devs don't want to. their answer was "the source code is the documentation" or something like that
[04:30] <Jucato> bluebunny: anyway, they're developing .xcf2, which hopefully will be better and more documented.
[04:30] <bluebunny> Hopefully.
[04:33] <Jucato> bluebunny: on the other hand, there's also a move to create OpenRaster, an open format for layered raster images. don't know if they're considering adopting xcf2 for it...
[04:34] <bluebunny> I guess we just have to deal with what we have for now.
[04:35] <bluebunny> BTW, I didn't mean to completely insult the Krita project; I just like the gimp better.
[04:36] <Jucato> bluebunny: never saw you insulting it. just clarifying that point about Krita not opening .xcf files properly... which annoyed me to
[04:36] <Jucato> until I found out why
[04:37] <bluebunny> Well, since everything you said was in red, I thought you were pissed.
[04:38] <Jucato> bluebunny: lol. when your nick is mentioned in a sentence, the line gets highlighted (in red)
[04:38] <bluebunny> Oh. Oops.
[04:39] <Jucato> :)
[04:39] <bluebunny> :)
[04:39] <karmikaze> :'(
[04:40] <Jucato> ;)
[04:44] <bluebunny> I'm messing wiith Krita now.
[04:45] <Jucato> which version?
[04:46] <Jucato> I think there were new features added in 1.6.1
[04:48] <bluebunny> I'm using 1.5.0, and it seems different from the last time I tried it.  Who knows, maybe I'll get to like it.
[04:49] <karmikaze> hrmm
[04:49] <karmikaze> does youtube work in konqueror for anyone? :'(
[04:50] <bluebunny> Just a sec.  I'll try it.
[04:50] <deviant> Could someone help me figure out why I'm not getting sound? It looks like alsamixer is picking up my onboard sound but not my sound-card
[04:51] <karmikaze> i get sound but no video
[04:51] <bluebunny> Youtube works here.
[04:51] <karmikaze> D:
[04:51] <karmikaze> mrrrr
[04:52] <karmikaze> do you have any special plugins?
[04:53] <bluebunny> Flash, I think.
[04:53] <karmikaze> :/
[04:53] <karmikaze> yeah think thats the issue
[04:53] <karmikaze> flash didnt install right or something in konqueror
[04:53] <karmikaze> @_@
[04:54] <karmikaze> hrmmm there doesnt seem to be a beryl option for put window on all desktops -_-
[04:54] <karmikaze> which is like the only thing i need if im not to have titlebars........
[05:17] <ejm> I'm having problems logging into my normal user.
[05:17] <ejm> I can login fine with my root user though.
[05:17] <ejm> I've removed my user's cache for kde, and I've moved the ./.gconf settings as well.
[05:18] <ejm> But I get kicked back out to my login screen after I log in.
[05:18] <bluebunny> Hmm...
[05:18] <Annirak> I am having trouble getting my PCI Wireless-G card working in Ubuntu.  I can list available networks with iwlist, it's recognized with the RALink driver (as ra0).  But when I try to connect to my SSID, it doesn't get an IP on DHCP and networkmanager doesn't see the ra0 device.
[05:19] <ejm> btw, I'm actually running suse, but I'm banned from #suse right now. I'm not sure why, but I think it may've been something that I said last night.
[05:19] <Annirak> also, wlassistant doesn't see any networks.
[05:19] <ejm> So, I'll keep my mouth shut here.
[05:19] <Annirak> ejm, Ubuntu doesn't have a root user in the default install.  We use sudo.
[05:20] <ejm> oh nuts, I forgot!
[05:20] <jason> i watched a video on vlc player, and i closed it, but i can still hear the audio playing over and over, how can i turn it off? i'm trying to listen to music
[05:20] <ejm> Well now, this is gonna be fun. I'll have to go to over to fedora or something else.
[05:20] <CMeKillMyRouter> NO! fedora is worse on wireless support!
[05:20] <Annirak> differnt problems
[05:20] <ejm> oh no, I don't have wireless problems.
[05:20] <Annirak> ejm
[05:20] <Annirak> Um
[05:21] <Annirak> CMeKillMyRouter: I think I have randomly fixed it.
[05:21] <Annirak> Which is weird.
[05:21] <Annirak> But anyway
[05:21] <jason> ok nvm, it stoped :D
[05:21] <Annirak> ejm: how much do need to keep out of your regular user?
[05:21] <ejm> well, I usually use my regular user all the time.
[05:22] <Annirak> ejm: do you know where all the files you need to keep should you happen to lose your home directory are?
[05:22] <ejm> yeah
[05:22] <Annirak> well
[05:23] <Annirak> Can you see where I'm going with this
[05:23] <Annirak> ?
[05:23] <ejm> yeah
[05:23] <ejm> lol
[05:23] <ejm> I have a problem with going a little too extreme with 'bleeding edge'
[05:23] <Annirak> there is likely a cleaner solution
[05:23] <Annirak> but I don't know it
[05:23] <Annirak> and no one else is saying anything.
[05:24] <Annirak> so
[05:24] <ejm> well, there is something that I'm thinking too.
[05:24] <Annirak> grab what you need
[05:24] <Annirak> then rm -rf /home/ejm/*
[05:24] <ejm> k
[05:24] <ejm> Nuts, I got my broadcom wifi setup too.
[05:25] <Annirak> then rmuser ejm;adduser ejm
[05:25] <ejm> ok
[05:25] <Annirak> a little extreme, I know
[05:25] <Annirak> there must be a better way
[05:25] <Annirak> but that should work
[05:26] <ejm> thanks, that should help
[05:26] <Annirak> brb
[05:26] <phobiac> Anyone know of a package that can record video of your screen?
[05:27] <abattoir> !info screenkast
[05:27] <thoreauputic> phobiac: there's istanbul, but frankly it sucks :)
[05:27] <ubotu> Package screenkast does not exist in any distro I know
[05:27] <thoreauputic> !istanbul
[05:27] <ubotu> istanbul: Desktop session recorder. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.1-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 380 kB
[05:27] <phobiac> Thoreauputic: It doesn't have to be too powerful feature wise
[05:28] <abattoir> phobiac: tried screenkast?
[05:28] <phobiac> I'll look into both of those
[05:28] <phobiac> Thank you
[05:28] <thoreauputic> phobiac: well, it works - it just is kind of slow ( at least I had that issue with it, YMMV)
[05:33] <phobiac> Hmmm
[05:34] <phobiac> Trying to compile screenkast
[05:34] <phobiac> And I get this error while it's checking
[05:34] <phobiac> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[05:34] <phobiac> Anyone know how to fix that?
[05:37] <lupine_85> phobiac: install the X includes...
[05:37] <lupine_85> !info libx11-dev edgy
[05:37] <ubotu> libx11-dev: X11 client-side library (development headers). In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.0.3-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 1153 kB, installed size 4144 kB
[05:38] <phobiac> Ah okay
[05:38] <Hawkwind> phobiac: No need to compile screenkast, I have packages in my repo at http://SeerOfSouls.com/
[05:38] <phobiac> Thank you
[05:38] <phobiac> That makes it easier, thank you once again.
[05:47] <izauro> hello
[05:53] <premier> hello
[05:54] <matthew_> deus, can't you keep the same name for at least 10 minutes?
[05:54] <matthew_> lol
[05:54] <matthew_> deus, so...still need help?
[05:54] <deus> sorry
[05:54] <matthew_> deus, just playin'
[05:55] <deus> matthew_: well, I got kubuntu on my computer and its very nice.  I was having trouble installing an ide, prefferably a Java-ready one
[05:55] <seven11> my friend needs a free xchat for xp i know there is a free version anyone know?
[05:55] <deus> I have a list of things that if I could get linux to do I would almost never need windows anymore
[05:56] <matthew_> deus, check your private messages...
[05:56] <deus> Is it possible for linux to play off the shelf computer games with an emulator?
[05:56] <lupine_85> !cedega
[05:56] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[05:56] <matthew_> !wine | deus
[05:56] <ubuntu> usually I use ubuntu (edgy) but my laptop went wrong the other day so I've been using my friends laptop which she lent me. I ordered kubuntu a few months back (the free cd's) and I have to say, i am *very* impressed with this kubuntu system, it is flawless!!... (Using 6.06 LTS)
[05:56] <ubotu> deus: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:56] <lupine_85> :p
[05:56] <lupine_85> doesn't work with all games, but a good number work well
[05:57] <lupine_85> there's a wiki somewhere that details people's epic (and not so epic) struggles to get particular games working
[05:57] <phobiac> !cedega
[05:57] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[05:57] <deus> hmm, that link opened in konquerer, be nice If it opened in fireforx
[05:57] <darkkish_> it sucks
[05:57] <phobiac> Can't forgot that if you're talking about gaming on linux
[05:57] <towync> how much is cedaga again
[05:57] <darkkish_> wine works just as good with tweaks :p
[05:57] <towync> i know per month is 15 dollars
[05:57] <matthew_> deus, just try highlighting the link, and pasting it in FF
[05:57] <darkkish_> there are free versions of cedega
[05:58] <deus> dont the games run slower?
[05:58] <matthew_> darkkish_, hey, long time no see
[05:58] <lupine_85> it's not $15/month
[05:58] <lupine_85> I think it's ~4
[05:58] <darkkish_> lol matthew_
[05:58] <lupine_85> and you can stop paying at any time, but keep the current version
[05:58] <matthew_> towync, hey...sorry I couldn't get back b4 you left...I had to deal w/ customers...ever fix your problem?
[05:58] <lupine_85> but yeah, susbscription-based services suck
[05:59] <deus> matthew_: what about this graphics card?  Id like to get my screen resolution up to 1920x1200, or at least 1400xWhatever.  Right now it 1024x786
[05:59] <phobiac> I think you need your screen refresh rates
[05:59] <matthew_> deus, have you selected your card and monitor out of the hardware list?
[06:00] <deus> um, not sure how to do that
[06:00] <CMeKillMyRouter> I hope my dell XPS runs ubuntu
[06:00] <CMeKillMyRouter> it's got a radeon m card
[06:00] <CMeKillMyRouter> too late now, it's in the mail
[06:00] <matthew_> CMeKillMyRouter, it should
[06:00] <CMeKillMyRouter> goooooooooood. XD
[06:00] <matthew_> CMeKillMyRouter, I believe there are binaries for it...
[06:00] <matthew_> !ati | CMeKillMyRouter
[06:00] <ubotu> CMeKillMyRouter: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:01] <CMeKillMyRouter> oh yeah cool
[06:03] <Conor> matthew_, this is deus.  Sorry for the name change, but my other computer wont work
[06:03] <towyncc> matthew_  yeah it was fixed
[06:03] <matthew_> Conor, np
[06:03] <matthew_> towync, sorry i couldn't help
[06:03] <thehound> Hello. I wouldn't know. I was in here once before for help but I'm pretty used to Linux now :)
[06:03] <phobiac> Hawkwind: You still there?
[06:04] <Conor> matthew_: So, I selected my hardware from the list on the KDE control center, and then clicked test.
[06:04] <Conor> You know that screen you get when X first starts, with the checkerboard background and the "X" cursor?
[06:04] <Conor> I got that, and it wont go away
[06:04] <matthew_> Conor, if you know it'll work (if it worked before on windows) then don't click test...just click apply and logout, restart the x-server (Alt+E) and log back in...
[06:05] <matthew_> Conor, hmmm, weird...
[06:06] <Conor> okay, it worked
[06:06] <matthew_> Conor, you get a checkerboard pattern?
[06:06] <matthew_> Conor, oh, it worked? what are your resolutions now?
[06:06] <Conor> yeah, the same when X starts, matthew_
[06:06] <Conor> matthew_: Big, prolly 1920x1200
[06:07] <Conor> Very nice
[06:07] <matthew_> Conor, I love it when a plan comes together...
[06:07] <Conor> Then menu went even higher
[06:07] <thehound> well just figured out how to get Konversation to connect through the proxy here :)
[06:07] <thehound> no more mIRC on Wintrash
[06:08] <Conor> okay, now about an ide
[06:08] <j_> ha
[06:08] <Conor> I was going to get KDevelop, but somepeople suggested netbeans...
[06:09] <matthew_> Conor, check out your private messages...on the left if you're using Xchat...
[06:09] <j_> how to install mplayer
[06:09] <matthew_> j_, sudo apt-get install mplayer
[06:10] <j_> i tried  but failed
[06:10] <thehound> you need repositories
[06:10] <matthew_> j_, what was the message?
[06:10] <matthew_> package not found?
[06:10] <thehound> let me figure out a link to a list
[06:10] <j_> yes
[06:10] <lupine_85> kdevelop++
[06:11] <lupine_85> it beats /everything/ else round the head with the VC++ stick, AFAICT
[06:11] <Conor> matthew_: I cant find private messages on this thing
[06:11] <matthew_> Conor, ok...try out automatix2 @ www.getautomatix.com
[06:11] <matthew_> !automatix | matthew
[06:11] <ubotu> matthew: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[06:12] <Jucato> Conor: you need to register your nick to be able to send private messages on this server
[06:13] <premier> hmm... that doesnt sound like a positive review
[06:13] <matthew_> just a disclaimer
[06:13] <matthew_> works fine for me!
[06:13] <premier> hmmm...
[06:13] <Jucato> !worksforme | matthew_
[06:13] <ubotu> matthew_: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[06:14] <matthew_> Jucato, ok...sorry...
[06:14] <premier> Id rather just stick with a net beans or KDevelop
[06:14] <matthew_> Conor, whatever you do, do _not_ check out www.getautomatix.com...avoid it like poison!
[06:14] <premier> hmmm...
[06:14] <Jucato> regarding automatix, that's just the general, and semi-official, sentiment of the Ubuntu devs. whether you follow it or not, it's up to you. they don't control you :)
[06:14] <Thehound666> bah had to change my nick, forgot my pass
[06:14] <Thehound666> anyways, you using edgy?
[06:15] <premier> okay, fine.  But Id like to see If I can use something more supported first
[06:15] <premier> me? yes
[06:15] <Thehound666> looks decent list here http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-edgy-eft-complete-sourceslist-repository-list-file.html
[06:15] <Jucato> what app were you looking for anyway?
[06:15] <phobiac> Hawkwind: Are you there?
[06:16] <premier> how do I get repositories set up?
[06:16] <Jucato> premier: in Edgy, main, restricted, and universe is already there and enabled (except for backports). you just need to enable multiverse
[06:16] <Jucato> !multiverse | premier
[06:16] <ubotu> premier: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:17] <Thehound666> edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:17] <Thehound666> you need to edit as root
[06:17] <Thehound666> it's a right click option
[06:18] <premier> by the way, the graphics on this computer lags, prolly because I dont have the correct graphics driver installed
[06:18] <matthew_> premier, or you can run sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list from a konsole
[06:18] <Thehound666> lol ATI card?
[06:21] <Thehound666> fortunately on my super computer, I run Kubuntu within a VM. I also replaced windows on a lower end pc, but it has nvidia card
[06:21] <Jucato> matthew_: kdesu please
[06:21] <Thehound666> Kubuntu configures easy to nvidia
[06:22] <premier> wait, I cant get access to /etc from konquerer
[06:22] <Jucato> !kdesu | matthew_
[06:22] <ubotu> matthew_: In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[06:23] <premier> okay, im looking at the sources.list file
[06:23] <Thehound666> just paste all those repositories in and make sure they are not commented out
[06:24] <matroblend> I am trying to compile source and get no FMOD headers or Libs
[06:24] <premier> you mean from the webpage?
[06:24] <matroblend> Can I get that at konsole
[06:24] <Jucato> Thehound666: that's kinda too much...
[06:24] <Thehound666> yeah and any already there that aren't on page
[06:24] <Jucato> matroblend: you have installed "build-essential"?
[06:24] <Thehound666> that page should have enough though
[06:24] <phobiac> bye all
[06:25] <matroblend> Not that I know of
[06:25] <Jucato> premier: what were you trying to install, btw?
[06:25] <Jucato> matroblend: you need to install that. and depending on what you are compiling, you might need to install some -devel or -dev packages
[06:26] <premier> Jucato: kdevelop, or net beans.
[06:26] <matroblend> jucato: Is that in apt?
[06:26] <Jucato> Thehound666: that page.. it's not properly formatted, btw...
[06:27] <Jucato> matroblend: yep yep
[06:27] <Jucato> premier: kdevelop is in universe, no need to add any repository for it. (it's also enable by default in Edgy)
[06:27] <matroblend> jucato: ty I will get and try compile again
[06:27] <Thehound666> meh I always had to correct formatting of any page I saw. see if I can find the saved page I got from you guys long ago.
[06:27] <premier> Jucato: so how do I get at kdevelop?
[06:28] <Jucato> premier: install it fro Adept or from the command line with "sudo apt-get install kdevelop"
[06:28] <premier> Jucato: that didnt work
[06:28] <Jucato> Thehound666: that's why it's not so good to just say "paste all those repositories" as someone might really paste everything
[06:28] <Jucato> premier: what does it say?
[06:29] <Jucato> as for netbeans, it's not found in any of the official repositories
[06:29] <premier> E: Package kdevelop has no installation candidate
[06:30] <robotgeek> kdevelop3
[06:30] <Jucato> premier: by any chance, in your sources.list, are you using "http://us.archive.ubuntu.com"?
[06:30] <premier> Package kdevelop is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:30] <premier> E: Couldn't find package kdevelop3
[06:30] <premier> How should I know?
[06:31] <Jucato> premier: you said you were looking at your sources.list file already?
[06:31] <robotgeek> !info kdevelop3
[06:31] <ubotu> kdevelop3: Dummy package for transition to kdevelop. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.2+dummy1 (edgy), package size 9 kB, installed size 36 kB
[06:31] <premier> Jucato: I havent changed my sources.list yet
[06:31] <Jucato> premier: well, just check first if it's using us.archive.ubuntu.com
[06:31] <Jucato> robotgeek: kdevelop3 is only for dapper. in Edgy, it's a dummy package that installs kdevelop
[06:32] <Jucato> premier: ok, go to /etc/apt and right-click on sources.list -> Actions -> Edit as Root. it will ask for your password
[06:33] <premier> okay
[06:33] <Jucato> tell me if it's open now
[06:33] <robotgeek> Jucato: oh okay
[06:33] <premier> Jucato: its open
[06:34] <Jucato> premier: check if you're using us.archive.ubuntu.com
[06:34] <premier> yeah, its the third line
[06:34] <Jucato> premier: ok, change all the "us." into hm... "uk."
[06:35] <premier> okay
[06:35] <premier> and save?
[06:35] <Jucato> yep
[06:35] <Jucato> there should be around... hm... 6 lines that have that... (iirc)
[06:35] <premier> and then open adept?
[06:35] <Jucato> premier: yep, or go to the command line
[06:36] <Jucato> in Adept, click on Fetch Updates first. in the command line, do "sudo apt-get update"
[06:36] <premier> it looks like the universe repository is commented out
[06:36] <Thehound666> I knew I'd find the list I had, it was residing on my windows slave disk but found url
[06:36] <Jucato> premier: it shouldn't be. unless you changed it
[06:37] <Thehound666> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23249
[06:37] <premier> should I uncomment them?
[06:37] <Thehound666> yup, all in list be default should be uncommented
[06:37] <Thehound666> by default*
[06:38] <Jucato> premier: depends on which universe you are talking about. if you're talking about the line that has "edgy-backports", then no, you don't absolutely need those
[06:38] <Thehound666> the url there was given to me first time these guys helped me
[06:38] <Jucato> premier: the important universe line would be "deb http://__.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe"
[06:38] <Thehound666> just replace dapper with edgy.
[06:39] <Thehound666> other than that, I'll let the experts help you here on in
[06:40] <Jucato> (other universe lines would be "deb http://__.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates universe" and "deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-security universe")
[06:40] <matroblend> I need to install FMOD any how to's for konsole use?
[06:40] <flaccid> !dvd
[06:40] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:40] <flaccid> what program should i use to play dvd movies?
[06:40] <Jucato> hm.. what's FMOD?
[06:40] <Jucato> flaccid: hm... Kaffeine?
[06:41] <flaccid> ok thanks mate looking now
[06:41] <Jucato> flaccid: depends on the kind of DVD and the codec needed
[06:41] <flaccid> ah ok
[06:41] <matroblend> http://www.fmod.org/
[06:41] <flaccid> this is red dwarf :)
[06:42] <Jucato> !compile | matroblend
[06:42] <ubotu> matroblend: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:42] <lupine_85> !dvd
[06:42] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:43] <matroblend> Thx will read for more info
[06:44] <flaccid> !xine
[06:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:46] <premier> okay, thanks everybody for you help, it looks like I got it working
[06:46] <FilipeOliveira>  hi, i replaced an ide hard drive with an sata, after making a ghost copyof all partitions (swap, ext3 (kubuntu system, ntfs(other os)). after this i rebooted, grub loaded fine, pointed and booted the other os perfectly, however did not boot ubuntu, it stopped after "starting..." is it possible that with the upgrade grub is looking for kubuntu in another location? if so will booting with a live cd, running fdisk to see where my partitions are, editi
[06:46] <FilipeOliveira> ng  mtab and fstab if they are different suffice to get it booting again?? thanks
[06:48] <Jucato> !libxine
[06:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libxine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:49] <premier> can I fix my graphics driver now?  Matthew, you were saying that I need to install a driver for ati
[06:49] <premier> !ati
[06:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:50] <Jucato> grr... :(
[06:50] <BrianSteffens> anyone know a good program that resembles autocad or adobe illustrator that i can use to plan the workings of a program?
[06:51] <Jucato> flowcharting?
[06:51] <BrianSteffens> yea something like that
[06:51] <Jucato> Kivio
[06:51] <BrianSteffens> ty'
[06:51] <Jucato> !kivio
[06:51] <ubotu> kivio: a flowcharting program for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 525 kB, installed size 1744 kB
[06:52] <Jucato> as for something like Adobe Illustrator, there's Inkscape and Xara Xtreme (xaralx package)
[06:53] <BrianSteffens> tyty
[06:56] <premier> hey, Im following the instructions to update my drivers
[06:57] <premier> matthew_? are you still there?
[07:01] <thedro> hello, anyone here install ubuntu on their ps3?
[07:03] <premier> how do I get super user mode on konquerer?
[07:03] <Jucato> premier: launch konqueror with "kdesu konqueror"
[07:04] <corey> how do i over come this error
[07:04] <corey> ng for socklen_t... size_t
[07:04] <corey> checking for gzsetparams in -lz... no
[07:04] <corey> configure: error: zlib needed
[07:04] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:04] <New_ub_User> I seem to have found a bug in the installer... can anyone help?
[07:04] <Admiral_Chicago> haha, how is it going
[07:05] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: a bit sleepy... in the middle of the afternoon...
[07:05] <Admiral_Chicago> New_ub_User, you could file it in launchpad
[07:05] <Jucato> busy days ahead...
[07:05] <nixternal> ;p
[07:05] <Admiral_Chicago> gah, /me runs
[07:05] <nixternal> haha
[07:05] <New_ub_User> Admiral_Chicago: well I wanted to check it was a bug and not just me being stupid first...
[07:05] <nixternal> imbrandon was infamous for the "offtopic" points back in the days
[07:05] <Admiral_Chicago> whats the issue?
[07:05] <Admiral_Chicago> he hit me with a few last year
[07:06] <Jucato> hm.. I think nixternal's the first one to hit me with that...
[07:06] <Jucato> I usually hit other people :P
[07:06] <Jucato> msg ubotu cloak
[07:06] <Jucato> ooops
[07:06] <Jucato> sorry about that :)
[07:07] <New_ub_User> Admiral_Chicago: I'm using kubuntu 6.10 desktop cd to install, with the wizard, I've selected to partition the disk myself as it's already split up, I'm on the "Prepare mount points" screen and it won't let me continue saying I've not selected a root filesystem, when I have
[07:07] <Admiral_Chicago> New_ub_User, are you partitioning, if so what type systems?
[07:07] <Admiral_Chicago> as in daul booting i meant
[07:09] <New_ub_User> there's a 32gb ntfs partition hda1, 4gb linux partition hda2 and 512mb swap, hda3
[07:10] <Admiral_Chicago> the 4gb nix patition, and the swap, where they made by the installer
[07:10] <New_ub_User> Admiral_Chicago: negative
[07:10] <Admiral_Chicago> that is, they are for ubuntu, not for another linux parition
[07:10] <New_ub_User> Admiral_Chicago: they were made by a previous linux install
[07:10] <New_ub_User> Admiral_Chicago: of knoppix
[07:11] <Admiral_Chicago> okay.
[07:11] <Admiral_Chicago> you have free space for the Ubuntu installer?
[07:12] <New_ub_User> Admiral_Chicago: well there's about a gig free, but I've selected the "reformat" checkbox
[07:12] <Admiral_Chicago> you want to reformat the knoppix partition?
[07:13] <matthew_> so...how do I load the firmware for my wireless card? It's a broadcom. When it boots, it pops up a message saying that the load of firmware failed.
[07:14] <Admiral_Chicago> matthew_, add it to /etc/modules I think
[07:14] <Admiral_Chicago> i don't do wireless though
[07:14] <Admiral_Chicago> so I'm not sure at all
[07:14] <matthew_> It's in a lappy...compaq presario V4000
[07:14] <New_ub_User> Admiral_Chicago: I can give it a go, but isn't that a bug in the installer then?
[07:14] <matthew_> Admiral_Chicago, ok...I'm doing it off a liveCD to show a friend...
[07:14] <matthew_> so...
[07:15] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, that won't work actually. sorry hmm not sure
[07:15] <matthew_> basically, I want wireless to work from the liveCD...
[07:15] <Admiral_Chicago> New_ub_User, not sure
[07:15] <matthew_> Admiral_Chicago, lol, np
[07:15] <Admiral_Chicago> i think what you would do is go back and delete the partitions
[07:15] <Admiral_Chicago> the linux and swap one
[07:16] <Admiral_Chicago> then commit the changes
[07:16] <spitwise> if its not supported on the live cd ... then ..
[07:16] <Admiral_Chicago> then hit the back button and do "use largest continous freespaceQ
[07:16] <spitwise> sol i think ..
[07:16] <matthew_> spitwise, hmmm, ok...thanks for the info...
[07:16] <Admiral_Chicago> it's the hardware vendors fault
[07:16] <Admiral_Chicago> but yes i think sol as well
[07:17] <BrianSteffens> does anybody else have it where resizing windows the redrawing is junky? as if it wasn't double-buffered?
[07:17] <justin_> Is there a way to use Konqueror sudo/root?
[07:17] <jordo23> Jucato: You there?
[07:17] <BrianSteffens> justin_ kdesu konqueror
[07:17] <Jucato> yes
[07:17] <Jucato> jordo23: yes
[07:18] <justin_> Ok I know I can do it that way, but there was a menu option too I used it yesterday -- but now forget.. heh
[07:18] <matthew_> Is there a good alternative for adobe premier?
[07:18] <BrianSteffens> lol
[07:20] <jordo23> Jucato: What do I do if I cannot uninstall a package in Kubuntu because of unmet dependencies?
[07:20] <justin_> matthew_, What is adobe premiere?
[07:20] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, can you try to help New_ub_User? I'm going to go, I did a lot of  bug triage recently and want to sleep
[07:20] <matthew_> a video editing program...
[07:20] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: /me is not good with installation procedures... :(
[07:20] <Admiral_Chicago> -f remove?
[07:20] <Jucato> matthew_: kino?
[07:20] <matthew_> I know about kino...anything else?
[07:20] <matthew_> lol, nice one, Jucato
[07:20] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, New_ub_User  email me. I'll pm you my email address
[07:21] <Jucato> not in the repositories: virtual dub, jashaka (can't remember the spelling)
[07:21] <RoboMoore> who's up for some dual screen help? alright, here's my problem, I have a nvidia graphics card (geforce 4 mx 440 agp 8x) and I'm using the 2 ports on it, anyone up for the challenge?
[07:21] <Jucato> ah Jahshaka
[07:21] <Admiral_Chicago> if you can't get help that is
[07:21] <New_ub_User> Admiral_Chicago: thanks for your help
[07:21] <Admiral_Chicago> goodnight all
[07:21] <Jucato> night Admiral_Chicago!
[07:21] <justin_> And one last thing - how do I get a module to load auto at boot time every time without having to always modprobe it and restart X -- to use sound, it did it auto in Ubuntu... under Gnome but for some reason under Kubuntu I need to load it manually every time I log in.
[07:21] <Admiral_Chicago> nigth Jucato
[07:21] <Jucato> jordo23: sudo apt-get remove <package> doesn't work? how were you trying to install it?
[07:22] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, /etc/modules
[07:22] <matthew_> Jucato, thank you.
[07:22] <Sharn> Hey, anyone know the best guide for XGL and Compiz for an integrated ATI card?
[07:22] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: huh?
[07:22] <Jucato> oh....
[07:22] <Jucato> justin_: <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, /etc/modules
[07:22] <justin_> Admiral_Chicago, It is in /etc/modules...
[07:22] <Admiral_Chicago> err that was for justin_
[07:22] <Jucato> I figured :)
[07:23] <darkkish_> does anyone use mIRC
[07:23] <Sharn> Uhm, I am.
[07:23] <lupine_85> darkkish_: used to. now konversation is my friend
[07:23] <RoboMoore> who's up for some dual screen help? alright, here's my problem, I have a nvidia graphics card (geforce 4 mx 440 agp 8x) and I'm using the 2 ports on it, anyone up for the challenge?
[07:23] <vursitis> <("<)  ^( " )^ (>")>  \/( " )\/  ^( " )>   <( " )^ ^( " )\/
[07:23] <vursitis> hello
[07:24] <vursitis> oh woops, sorry
[07:24] <Conor> hello
[07:24] <darkkish_> well mIRC has scripting that i iknow how to edo
[07:24] <darkkish_> and i really like it
[07:24] <darkkish_> but it doesm't work quite rigth in wine
[07:24] <justin_> Oh... nevermind
[07:24] <Jucato> Konversation has scripting too
[07:24] <justin_> I put the file all in caps
[07:24] <justin_> :D
[07:24] <Conor> can someone here tell me what to do to get my tvtuner working?
[07:24] <darkkish_> when you press enter to get a line break, the scripting window closes
[07:25] <Jucato> darkkish_: try asking in #winehq
[07:25] <superb0wl> RoboMoore https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia i think thats the answer it's not too hard to do
[07:25] <lupine_85> darkkish_: copy  + paste ?
[07:25] <darkkish_> lupine_85: i don't really want to
[07:25] <RoboMoore> superb0wl: I do
[07:25] <Sharn> Hey, anyone know the best guide for XGL and Compiz for an integrated ATI card?
[07:26] <RoboMoore> cause it's not working
[07:26] <lupine_85> darkkish_: then hack wine
[07:26] <lupine_85> Sharn: wiki.beryl-project.org
[07:26] <lupine_85> oh, *compiz*...
[07:26] <lupine_85> no idea, sorry
[07:27] <Conor> !tvtuners
[07:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tvtuners - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:27] <Sharn> Well, if beryl is easy enough to set up, that's fine.
[07:28] <lupine_85> Sharn: quite easy
[07:28] <Sharn> Are the instructions for Ubuntu going to work with Kubuntu also?
[07:28] <lupine_85> less easy for fglrx drivers
[07:28] <lupine_85> yep
[07:28] <Sharn> Mmk.
[07:28] <darkkish_> !mirc
[07:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mirc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:29] <Jucato> jordo23: what were you trying to install and how were you trying to install it?
[07:30] <jordo23> I think I was trying to install kdepim....don't care about that anymore though...I just want my apt system back to normal...
[07:30] <jordo23> Jucato: I think I was trying to install kdepim....don't care about that anymore though...I just want my apt system back to normal...
[07:31] <Jucato> you were trying to install it through apt-get?
[07:31] <Jucato> have you tried "sudo apt-get -f install"?
[07:32] <Conor> Jucato: (or anyone) can you get me started on setting up my tvtuner for linux?
[07:32] <Sharn> Heh. Now I need to get it installed.
[07:32] <Jucato> Conor: sorry, not familiar with tvtunders.
[07:32] <Conor> hmmm...
[07:32] <Conor> do you know anyone that might help, or where i'd go for help?
[07:33] <Sharn> You tried Google, right?
[07:33] <intelikey> Conor help with ?
[07:33] <Conor> tvtuners
[07:33] <Sharn> Just want to ask that, because people often overlook it. :P
[07:33] <intelikey> mmm
[07:33] <Conor> I just have difficulty wading trough the documentation
[07:34] <jordo23> Jucato: KDEPIM shows as broken in Adept's Updater too...
[07:34] <Conor> theres this page that apparently gives me instructions to load up mythtv, but it wants to know If I want a frontend or backend and Its really confusing
[07:34] <Jucato> jordo23: have you tried "sudo apt-get -f install"?
[07:36] <jordo23> Jucato: Seems back to normal now....thanks a lot!!
[07:36] <Jucato> ok... time to snooze.
[07:37] <nate_> I've most likely overlooked it but where can I assign multiple static IPs and DNS?
[07:41] <superb0wl> nate_ i think kdecontrolpanel can do it or /etc/network/interfaces
[07:41] <nate_> Thanks, i'll check it out.
[07:42] <Conor> hey, i just went to shutdown my computer, And I got a black screen.
[07:42] <Conor> I cant figure out if its doing anything
[07:44] <intelikey> Conor ctrl+alt+f8 && ctrl+alt+f1     see anything ?
[07:44] <Conor> um... I crashed it
[07:45] <Conor> intelikey: can you help me with this tvtuner?
[07:45] <intelikey> well ffr   that sometimes gets you to a place where you can see what it's doing.     also of note     SysRQ+alt+U  to emergency umount if needed.
[07:46] <intelikey> tvtuner   no   sorry.
[07:46] <Conor> what button is SysRQ?
[07:46] <intelikey> generally the same as print-screen
[07:46] <superb0wl> SysRQ that awesome button on the top half of print screen
[07:46] <Conor> okay.  does printscreen still work?
[07:47] <intelikey> yes
[07:47] <Conor> cool
[07:47] <Conor> alright, so what would I want to google to get info about my tv tuner?
[07:51] <intelikey> when i google i get from 2million to 40thousand hits that after looking at the first 200 and finding nothing apropos i forget what i was looking for and loose interst altogather....
[07:52] <intelikey> bottom line google doesn't work for me.
[07:53] <Spartacus> What... I just joined, but are my ears deceiving me?! Google not working?
[07:53] <Conor> well, everyone's answer when I ask these questions is: "Google it"
[07:53] <Conor> And Im like, "Google what?"
[07:53] <Sharn> PMG
[07:53] <Sharn> Google is teh perfectness. ^__^
[07:53] <intelikey> Conor yeah.  that actually works for some people.
[07:53] <kkathman> well many answers can be found in the wiki, or by Googling strategically
[07:54] <Conor> anybody here know how to configure a tvtuner?
[07:54] <Sharn> Mmk, so. "tv tuner setup ubuntu"
[07:54] <kkathman> actually between the wiki, the forums and Google you might be surprised :)
[07:54] <Conor> or can tell me where to look for help
[07:54] <kkathman> Conor:  did you TRY the wiki?
[07:54] <intelikey> Conor Sharn just said google for  "tv tuner setup ubuntu"
[07:55] <Conor> wheres the wiki?
[07:55] <intelikey> !wiki
[07:55] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[07:55] <intelikey> wiki wiki who got the wiki
[07:55] <kkathman> what kind of card is it Conor :)
[07:56] <Sharn> Zero results. =O
[07:56] <Conor> hauppauge usb2
[07:56] <Conor> wintv usb2
[07:57] <kkathman> Try the Hauppage web site
[07:57] <kkathman> there is lots of info there
[07:57] <Sharn> Hm. Yeah. That and search the ubuntu forums too.
[07:57] <Sharn> If you don't find it.
[07:57] <Sharn> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[07:57] <kkathman> or Type   WinTV Hauppage Linux in Google and you'll see lots of links
[07:58] <kkathman> including the link to the Hauppage Site
[07:58] <kkathman> for :Linux Installation
[07:58] <kkathman> So in this case, Google WAS the answer :)
[07:58] <intelikey> kkathman yes that was my point eariler.... lots of links is usually very little help...
[07:59] <kkathman> well, usually for a card, I try the wiki first, then I try a search of forums, then the web site of the card maker
[07:59] <kkathman> typically that will suffice on most issues
[08:00] <BrianSteffens> somebody got wintv hauppage to work on kubuntu?
[08:00] <kkathman> that hauppage page sent me to :  http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[08:00] <kkathman> a full page of How Tos
[08:00] <intelikey> someone is trying too BrianSteffens
[08:00] <BrianSteffens> oh :D
[08:00] <kkathman> see page above
[08:02] <kkathman> here's another page:  http://ubuntu.flowconsult.at/en/hauppauge-wintv-usb2/
[08:02] <kkathman> type WinTV Hauppage Ubuntu in Google.....AMAZING!
[08:03] <intelikey> kkathman and which one of the 124463 pages actually helps ?
[08:03] <kkathman> http://ubuntu.flowconsult.at/en/hauppauge-wintv-usb2/
[08:03] <kkathman> come on guyz :)
[08:03] <kkathman> it took me maybe 5 minutes to find the install?
[08:04] <kkathman> things arent always easy tho..I'll admite
[08:04] <kkathman> but there are ample things to peek at on this one :)
[08:05] <intelikey> "ample things to peek at"   :)
[08:06] <kkathman> sometimes, it takes a little longer than other things...welcome to the world of linux :)
[08:06] <kkathman> thats the fun :)
[08:07] <intelikey> "Q; what do linux users do?     A; they install software."      oh the joy....
[08:08] <matthew_> intelikey, very nice
[08:08] <Sharn> Hah.
[08:08] <Sharn> There's just something that makes you want to make it work thoguh. :)
[08:08] <intelikey> but actually that's not quite accurate.    some install software.  some configure things.
[08:09] <intelikey> me.  i guess i'm a tweek artest...
[08:10] <matthew_> intelikey, yep...me too
[08:13] <intelikey> i still haven't made up my mind if i want to re-arrange my disks....   kinda like moving the furnature,  i never did understand womens need to change the room....
[08:15] <matthew_> intelikey, seriously! I mean, if it's working, why bother?
[08:15] <intelikey> matthew_ to which ?   hehhe yeah.
[08:15] <matthew_> the woman part, of course.
[08:15] <intelikey> applies to both.
[08:16] <matthew_> intelikey, what are you thinking of doing to your disks?
[08:17] <intelikey> well i have ubuntu installed on three disks...   i was kinda thinking of clearing one and putting windows 95 back on it so the kids could play this stupid game they have.
[08:17] <justin_> How do you enable multiverse/universe in Kubuntu
[08:17] <matthew_> intelikey, I take it that you can't just wine the game?
[08:17] <matthew_> justin_, sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:18] <intelikey> justin_ same way you do in ubuntu.    you add " universe multiverse "   to the lines in /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:18] <matthew_> justin_, you can add the words universe and multiverse to the lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:18] <intelikey> matthew_ no. tried that already.
[08:18] <matthew_> intelikey, bummer
[08:18] <matthew_> intelikey, like, majorly
[08:18] <Conor> hey! matthew_!
[08:19] <Conor> wanna help me configure my tvtuner?
[08:19] <matthew_> Conor, hey, ummmm, sure...I guess
[08:19] <matthew_> Conor, what's the problem? (I don't know much!)
[08:20] <justin_> matthew_, So now "software" properties as exist in Gnome then?
[08:20] <Conor> um... so what do I do?
[08:20] <intelikey> also if i do i'm kinda thinking of clearing two disks...  one is just a backup copy of the other  and i have burned cd's so i don't need a backup of the backup of the backup,  do i?
[08:20] <justin_> Cause I did fix sources.list - but still no "SUN JAVA" when I search.. and I did update/refresh my list.
[08:20] <matthew_> justin_, not sure what you mean...just add "universe multiverse" to the end of all the lines...
[08:21] <matthew_> Conor, make/model of video card/tuner...etc...please
[08:21] <Conor> hauppauge WinTV USB2
[08:21] <matthew_> Conor, hmmm, lemme do some research...h/o
[08:22] <Conor> thanks
[08:23] <intelikey> justin_  grep -v '#' | sed 's/main.*/main restricted universe multiverse/g' | sort -u > example-sources.list
[08:23] <intelikey> and look at example-sources.list
[08:23] <matthew_> Conor, have you seen this yet?         http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-3492.html
[08:24] <Sharn_Live> Woooo.
[08:24] <matthew_> Conor, he's using hoary...but it should apply
[08:24] <Conor> hoary?
[08:25] <Sharn_Live> I think KDE has snagged me.
[08:25] <justin_> KDEINIT could not launch kate?
[08:25] <intelikey> justin_ copy and paste this in a terminal and then look at example-sources.list  >>>>     grep -v '#' /etc/apt/sources.list | sed 's/main.*/main restricted universe multiverse/g' | sort -u > example-sources.list
[08:25] <justin_> ..
[08:25] <matthew_> Conor, it was a release a couple years ago...stood for "Hoary Hedgehog"...I think it was 5.10
[08:25] <justin_> intelikey, Thanks man - but I believe im back off to Gnome.. KDE has been too much trouble this week mem leaks from gam_server to kdeinit saying it cant load this or that.. for no reason at all
[08:25] <Sharn_Live> Mmmm. 5.10 was released about exactly a year ago.
[08:26] <justin_> thanks for the help though
[08:26] <matthew_> Sharn_Live, darn...foiled again...
[08:26] <matthew_> lol
[08:26] <seven11> anyone know how i start a second x when i change to tty3 and i log on do startx -- :3 it will start a new x session but crashes befor i get to the desktop
[08:26] <Sharn_Live> :)
[08:26] <intelikey> justin_  ok....  hehhe  but it's the same thing.
[08:26] <Sharn_Live> Don't we just love VMWare. ^_^
[08:27] <intelikey> seven11 crashes ?   any error messages ?
[08:27] <matthew_> Conor, ooh, found another one...this is more recent...here you go.....               http://ubuntu.flowconsult.at/en/hauppauge-wintv-usb2/
[08:28] <matthew_> Conor, much much simpler, as well...
[08:29] <Conor> okay i got an error
[08:29] <seven11> intelikey: can not open dev wacom
[08:29] <matthew_> Conor, what error?
[08:29] <matthew_> Conor, if it's big...use pastebin
[08:29] <matthew_> please
[08:30] <intelikey> seven11 all ubuntu default xorg.conf files have wacom setup   if you don't have a wacom device you can comment out the "three" wacom device entries  and that error will cease.
[08:30] <Conor> pastebin.com/843036
[08:31] <matthew_> Conor, h/o
[08:31] <matthew_> Conor, did you use sudo?
[08:31] <Conor> no
[08:31] <intelikey> seven11 try a desktop and/or app in place of startx
[08:32] <CMeKillMyRouter> sudo make me a sandwich
[08:32] <matthew_> Conor, try that...
[08:32] <Conor> that didnt fix it
[08:32] <matthew_> Conor, ok, I'm out of ideas...are you sure that your video card can do all that? (YUY2 images, etc...)
[08:32] <matthew_> Conor, oh, right...ati x1400 mobility...
[08:33] <Conor> How should I know?  Its a pretty recent card, and I got the fg whatever drivers
[08:33] <matthew_> Conor, have you tried installing the ati binaries?
[08:33] <Conor> fglx?
[08:33] <Conor> yea
[08:33] <intelikey> seven11 x is already running you don't need more instances of x running you just need to connect to it.    i.e.   konsole --display :3        (one or two dashes, xapps often break posix there.)
[08:33] <matthew_> Conor, ok...hmm...I'm out of ideas...sorry.
[08:33] <matthew_> Conor, lol, too bad genii isn't here...
[08:33] <kraut> moin
[08:34] <Conor> I installed mythTV
[08:35] <matthew_> Conor, did that work?
[08:35] <Conor> but it kept asking about my password to MySQL or something
[08:35] <Conor> I was confused out of my mind
[08:35] <matthew_> Conor, and you have no idea...hmmm...lemme look around some more...
[08:35] <Conor> thanks
[08:36] <intelikey> seven11 but you do know that the second gui would naturally be :1  don't you ?
[08:36] <matthew_> Conor,              http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MySql
[08:38] <seven11> intelikey: but it should work on 2 as well?
[08:38] <Conor> matthew_: it says it "cant connect to local MySQL server..."
[08:38] <intelikey> seven11 i've never tried skipping numbers...  you can test it.
[08:38] <Conor> sudo didnt fix it
[08:38] <seven11> ok thanks for your help
[08:39] <matthew_> Conor, ok, lemme look again, lol
[08:40] <intelikey> seven11 in time past i have edited startkde to accept display agrs   if you know bash it's simple.
[08:40] <Conor> btw, this is a really nice operating system
[08:40] <matthew_> Conor, what? mythtv?
[08:40] <intelikey> then you can     startkde --display :2     but withut editing the script doesn't readin the args.
[08:41] <intelikey> Conor yeah linux is top notch   imo
[08:42] <BrianSteffens> does everyone's windows resize and move kind of shakily?
[08:42] <JediSpam> erm
[08:42] <JediSpam> shakily? lol
[08:42] <intelikey> BrianSteffens no.
[08:42] <BrianSteffens> hm =/
[08:42] <JediSpam> it sounds like your monitor frequency is too high or something lol
[08:42] <Conor> matthew_: did you ask me a question?
[08:43] <BrianSteffens> i've tried both the fglrx and the most current ati drivers
[08:43] <JediSpam> the refresh rate
[08:43] <BrianSteffens> looks the same both times
[08:43] <matthew_> Conor, yeah...did you say that you like the layout of MythTV?
[08:43] <Conor> no, I like kubuntu, and linux in general
[08:43] <matthew_> Conor, ah...ok...I'm still looking around...
[08:44] <JediSpam> kubuntu is nice
[08:44] <JediSpam> how is myth tv? i don't know what to do for my htpc... should i get the knoppix that has myth tv built in
[08:44] <BrianSteffens> JediSpam: where can i find the refresh rate settings?
[08:44] <intelikey> BrianSteffens just the vesa module  is smooth  so it's prbably something about the ati and the modules...
[08:44] <JediSpam> refresh rate should be in "screen resolution" i think
[08:44] <JediSpam> you might have to edit your xorg.conf
[08:44] <JediSpam> not sure
[08:44] <BrianSteffens> and yea i love ubuntu/kde
[08:45] <BrianSteffens> intelikey is the vesa module what it uses by default before installing any drivers?
[08:45] <matthew_> Conor, does the rest of the error message say "...through socket so and so"?
[08:46] <matthew_> Conor,          http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=74387
[08:46] <intelikey> BrianSteffens can be.   or there may be some generic ati module   i don't know.    it can also use kernel frame buffering   but i don't like to try to run x in that.
[08:46] <BrianSteffens> JediSpam where is xorg.conf located?
[08:47] <BrianSteffens> intelikey well it worked HORRIBLY when i first installed kde. adding fglrx or the current ati drivers helped a lot but it still doesn't run smooth like macos or windows
[08:48] <Conor> matthew_: yeah
[08:48] <intelikey> BrianSteffens vesa is what the liveCD uses to get started   but live CD's are notorious for slow choppy lagging problems  so that not a good test.
[08:48] <spitwise> BrianSteffens: /etc/X11
[08:48] <matthew_> Conor,          http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=74387
[08:49] <spitwise> you need root permissions
[08:49] <spitwise> er
[08:49] <spitwise> privs
[08:49] <spitwise> sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:50] <intelikey> BrianSteffens there may be some tweeks mentioned on the wikis   again i don't know much about   ati    only that i don't want one.
[08:50] <BrianSteffens> what is OpenGLOverlay?
[08:50] <Conor> okay.  How do I set up mysql?
[08:50] <intelikey> !mysql
[08:50] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[08:50] <matthew_> Conor, ummm, sudo apt-get install mysql?
[08:50] <matthew_> intelikey, what do you think?
[08:50] <intelikey> see the link ^
[08:50] <Conor> that returned an error.
[08:51] <BrianSteffens> worked for me with konqueror
[08:51] <matthew_> Conor,         https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[08:51] <spitwise> Conor: i'd do some reading, it's a bit tricky if you're new to it ... to get it all set up and whatnot
[08:51] <Conor> oh boy
[08:51] <matthew_> Conor, lol, no one said it was easy!
[08:52] <Conor> mmm...
[08:52] <intelikey> if it was easy there would be a script in the package and you wouldn't have to set anything up...
[08:52] <matthew_> Conor, good luck with that...I've never ever touched MySQL
[08:53] <Conor> oh
[08:53] <Conor> is there something wrong with it, or jusst never encountered it?
[08:53] <matthew_> Conor, nothing wrong with it...just never played with it...no need
[08:53] <spitwise> Conor: mysql + apache as a front end are really nice
[08:54] <spitwise> powerful but takes some effort
[08:54] <BrianSteffens> i'd imagine mysql has to run on an enormous variety of platforms, with an insane number of options for everything
[08:54] <spitwise> also look up phpmyadmin
[08:54] <spitwise> it makes life easier
[08:55] <BrianSteffens> so i'd think it'd be quite a bit more involved to install it than say a text editor
[08:55] <BrianSteffens> lol
[08:56] <spitwise> installing is fine .. making it work is a different story since it'lll only do what you tell it ot ;)
[08:56] <spitwise> to even
[08:57] <spitwise> i've only used it for a small database project
[08:58] <spitwise> even then i think it was a bit overkill ;)
[08:59] <spitwise> but well worth the endeavor
[09:00] <nvman90> Anyone try installing kubuntu with a nvidia 8800GTX?
[09:01] <touch> Can someone help me compile this driver from source for Kubuntu Edgy? http://www.softcoded.net/eduard/elousb.html
[09:01] <lupine_85> nvman90: it'll work fine
[09:01] <lupine_85> although you might need to install the beta drivers to get support for your card
[09:01] <lupine_85> !nvidiabeta
[09:01] <ubotu> For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9629 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable
[09:01] <lupine_85> actually, you'll need the 9742 drivers (s/stable/unstable in the above line)
[09:02] <nvman90> I installed the 9746 drivers that came out today
[09:02] <touch> I'm afraid my lack of knowledge of C prevents me from understanding the output of my MAKE.
[09:02] <nvman90> straight from nvidias site...not from a repos
[09:02] <BrianSteffens> touch: what's the output say?
[09:02] <nvman90> which seems to have been a bad idea
[09:02] <lupine_85> touch: no need to install them from source really
[09:02] <lupine_85> nvman90: 9746? Bad experience?
[09:03] <nvman90> becuase now when I try to start X I get this message "Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has the version 1.0-7184, but this X module has the version 1.0-9746."
[09:03] <touch> No... this one there is lupine_85. It's specially compiled to be "hacked" For this purpose. Hold up a sec BrianSteffens, I'll pastebin it
[09:03] <touch> !pastebin
[09:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:03] <lupine_85> nvman90: it's got the nvidia legacy .ko installed
[09:04] <lupine_85> sudo rmmod nvidia && sudo modprobe nvidia might fix it for you.. otherwise, support for your card has been removed in 9746
[09:04] <spitwise> !modprobe
[09:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about modprobe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:04] <spitwise> *gasp*
[09:04] <lupine_85> the poor bot hasn't been linked up to man just yet :p
[09:04] <spitwise> heheh
[09:05] <nvman90> alright i'll try that
[09:05] <touch> Here's the output of my make http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38332/
[09:05] <nvman90> although support was definitly not removed because the driver says that it adds support for my card
[09:05] <lupine_85> but yeah, as soon as nouveau get to a usable state, I'm dumping the nvidia one
[09:05] <intelikey> says a lot about a person imo.
[09:06] <Conor> when is genii gonna be back?
[09:06] <lupine_85> 13. /usr/include/unistd.h:418: error: conflicting types for 'xf86usleep' <-- what it says.
[09:06] <matthew_> Conor, whenever he wants to, lol
[09:06] <lupine_85> X11R7 ?
[09:06] <touch> Yeah.. but what does that mean?
[09:06] <lupine_85> I was under the impression this was X11R6 ..
[09:06] <Conor> yeah, you guys are too helpful
[09:07] <touch> Ahh.. so it's possibly a typo from the creator?
[09:07] <BrianSteffens> touch: bad code
[09:07] <BrianSteffens> lol
[09:07] <nvman90> Lupine: Thanks I think those 2 commands fixed it :
[09:07] <lupine_85> either it's designed for a different version of the X11 protocol (though I didn't know X11R7 was out) or the coder is a numpty
[09:07] <intelikey> i'm looking forward to X12
[09:07] <lupine_85> nvman90: cool
[09:07] <lupine_85> intelikey: not Y windows? :p
[09:07] <touch> GAH....
[09:08] <touch> That would successfully kill my last hope of getting this touchscreen working on edgy..
[09:08] <BrianSteffens> how can i install a .deb package i downloaded?
[09:08] <lupine_85> BrianSteffens: dpkg -i
[09:08] <BrianSteffens> ty
[09:08] <lupine_85> if you're sure you want to install it
[09:08] <matthew_> intelikey, what are you smoking?!?!?
[09:09] <intelikey> matthew_ micro-chips   i guess
[09:09] <matthew_> intelikey, hmm...what's up?
[09:09] <matthew_> intelikey, you ok?
[09:09] <intelikey> sure
[09:10] <matthew_> intelikey, ok, just checkin'
[09:10] <spitwise> well my excuse is that i saw santa being mugged in the opeiong scene of strange days on tv and its keeping me up
[09:10] <matthew_> spitwise, nuh huh, santa can't ever get mugged
[09:11] <spitwise> well i done seen it on the boob tube.
[09:11] <spitwise> so it must be forreal.
[09:11] <intelikey> lol
[09:12] <spitwise> and are there any other mac users in the room?
[09:12] <touch> One last hope.. On this guy's site, he's got a regular driver already compiled that's to be copied to the  /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input directory, but it's for Dapper. If I copied it there, should I be able to modprobe it and use it like normal?
[09:12] <intelikey> room != channel
[09:12] <spitwise> kubuntu+ppc=no you tube
[09:12] <lupine_85> touch: probably not - it's a different version of x.org
[09:12] <nvman90> ughh so it still messes up when I restart untill I type "rmmod nvidia" then "startx" works, but I have to do that everytime I restart
[09:13] <touch> So I'd have to downgrade to Dapper to even get it going lupine_85?
[09:13] <lupine_85> nvman90: did you install using the official installer...?
[09:13] <lupine_85> touch: you could contact the author and ask about getting an edgy build
[09:13] <spitwise> intelikey: *ahem* in the Channel.
[09:13] <lupine_85> aside from that, pretty much, yeah
[09:13] <nvman90> lupine: installed from the script on nvidias site
[09:13] <nvman90> lupine: driver just came out today, that supports my card
[09:14] <lupine_85> nvman90: thought so. You're conflicting with the packages in the repo
[09:14] <touch> Well.. in that case.. I think I'll go ahead and email him and downgrade for the time being. Thanks for the help
[09:14] <lupine_85> so either uninstall linux-restricted-modules and nvidia-glx or give me 1/2 hour and i'll get you working 9746 packages :p
[09:14] <lupine_85> (9742 already exist)
[09:14] <spitwise> having serious video issues with ppc + *nix.
[09:15] <nvman90> lupine: LOL no i don't need you to waste time getting a package up. I'll figure something out, thanks for the help
[09:16] <lupine_85> nvman90: I've got to update anyway :p
[09:16] <lupine_85> see http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/
[09:16] <intelikey> spitwise if no one comes to your aid here you can ask in #ubuntu    xorg is xorg  not desktop specific.
[09:16] <spitwise> mm..
[09:17] <intelikey> not that anyone will actually help in there either....
[09:17] <spitwise> tricky .. and mostly due to lack of a macromedia plugin
[09:17] <intelikey> !flash
[09:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:17] <spitwise> so i need like #ubuntuppcXmacromedia.
[09:17] <lupine_85> woo, 9746 is stable
[09:18] <spitwise> or #swf4peepswifwhiteyuppoeboxes
[09:18] <bluebunny> I'm a blue bunny.
[09:19] <spitwise> but htanks intelikey
[09:19] <spitwise> one day i'll ask and there'll be a ppc dork here :D
[09:19] <intelikey> uep
[09:19] <intelikey> yep
[09:21] <touch> Is there any quick way to downgrade from Edgy to Dapper without the CD?
[09:21] <lupine_85> !downgrade
[09:21] <ubotu> Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[09:21] <nvman90> lupine: does that mean you're already getting a package for it?
[09:21] <lupine_85> what he said
[09:21] <spitwise> ya i wouldnt go there
[09:21] <lupine_85> nvman90: pretty much, yes
[09:21] <lupine_85> downloading the source now
[09:22] <lupine_85> 90MB :s
[09:22] <lupine_85> then all the fun of uploading it...
[09:22] <nvman90> ouch thats a lot of code
[09:23] <nvman90> Where are you uploading it?
[09:23] <intelikey> touch skipping versions in an upgrade is equally not supported,,, but i have done it.      best advice i can give you is uninstall everything that doesn't require "Yes, do as I say."  to remove it and then start the process.
[09:24] <lupine_85> it'll be the nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk edgy stable repository
[09:24] <nvman90> Awesome! Let me know when its up :)
[09:25] <lupine_85> ok :)
[09:25] <lupine_85> i386 or amd64 ?
[09:25] <nvman90> i386
[09:25] <lupine_85> I'll do that first then
[09:25] <nvman90> alright cool :)
[09:26] <max_> how do i install a .bin
[09:26] <matthew_> max_, you just move it to the appropriate directory
[09:27] <max_> what?
[09:27] <stdin> you usually run a .bin file
[09:27] <matthew_> stdin, oh...I must be thinking of something else...
[09:27] <matthew_> stdin, oh yeah, the *.so files...like for flash.
[09:28] <stdin> :p
[09:28] <stdin> yeah
[09:28] <max_> ive been trying to install java for an hour
[09:28] <max_> and cant figure out how
[09:28] <intelikey> touch i can script the removal process if you like. pretty simple but takes a while#   "dpkg -l | grep ^ii | cut -d' ' -f3 | sort > list ;for Q in $(<list) ;do apt-get remove --purge -f -y $Q ;done  "
[09:28] <stdin> max_: why not install it from the repos?
[09:28] <stdout> MUAHAHA
[09:28] <max_> its in the repos?
[09:29] <max_> !java
[09:29] <BrianSteffens> ok i'm done
[09:29] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[09:29] <stdin> it's in universe
[09:29] <stdin> or multiverse rather
[09:29] <stdin> like the bot says :p
[09:29] <max_> well
[09:29] <max_> that fixes that
[09:30] <BrianSteffens> has anyone else had a problem with ktorrent getting <1 kb/s down on all torrents except one at a time that gets 50-150?
[09:30] <max_> 80mb?! java is that big?
[09:30] <intelikey> java   heh
[09:30] <max_> intelikey: why "heh"
[09:30] <matthew_> BrianSteffens, I had so many problems with ktorrent that I just switched to Azerues...
[09:31] <spitwise> <1k???
[09:31] <stdin> intelikey: how come? (to the java part, not the win part)
[09:32] <BrianSteffens> matthew_ does azerues come with scheduling?
[09:32] <intelikey> stdin just don't have any use for it.
[09:32] <matthew_> BrianSteffens, I don't know...let me check
[09:32] <lupine_85> building...
[09:32] <spitwise> java is rather unneccessssssary\
[09:32] <lupine_85> bah, and it kills my desktop :(
[09:32] <kkathman> well its necessary for some things
[09:32] <lupine_85> erm, AM2
[09:33] <kkathman> like applications that need it
[09:33] <lupine_85> kkathman: there's a saying. If it's worth doing in java, it's worth doing properly :p
[09:33] <BrianSteffens> java is a cool idea i just hate it
[09:33] <kkathman> lol
[09:33] <stdin> like azerues
[09:33] <intelikey> see i don't even know what AM2 is  and probably don't want to know.
[09:33] <kkathman> well I dont argue with that.. but some applications that people use are written in java I guess
[09:33] <lupine_85> AMD processor :p
[09:33] <kkathman> I personally despise java
[09:33] <lupine_85> at least, I /think/ it's AM2
[09:34] <matthew_> BrianSteffens, I don't see anything...but you can cap your up/down speeds, and how many downloads can be active at once...
[09:34] <lupine_85> (like core duo but better, cos it's AMD :p )
[09:34] <stdin> java is good for platform/OS independent software
[09:34] <BrianSteffens> matthew_ k thanks
[09:34] <lupine_85> stdin: so is C source :p -- if it's done properly
[09:34] <intelikey> k9 ?
[09:34] <spitwise> not my platform!
[09:34] <intelikey> oh AM^2
[09:34] <lupine_85> intelikey: nah, just dual core
[09:35] <matthew_> BrianSteffens, np
[09:35] <lupine_85> or maybe some quad opterons..
[09:35] <stdin> lupine_85: in C you can still call on OS dependant APIs, java is a bit different, but C is better :p
[09:35] <BrianSteffens> C wins all
[09:35] <BrianSteffens> :D
[09:36] <matthew_> C ftw
[09:36] <spitwise> lol
[09:39] <BrianSteffens> !ati
[09:39] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:40] <lupine_85> bah, looks like I'm going to need a reboot to compile the i386 stuff...
[09:40] <spitwise> !screen
[09:40] <ubotu> screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[09:41] <intelikey> !es | ubuntu
[09:41] <ubotu> ubuntu: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:42] <spitwise> !sleep
[09:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sleep - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:42] <lupine_85>  /snore
[09:42] <spitwise> heh
[09:43] <intelikey> apitwise mount -o remount,dreamonly /dev/brain /media/pillow
[09:44] <spitwise> aww
[09:44] <touch> !touchscreen
[09:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about touchscreen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:45] <touch> !nothing
[09:45] <ubotu> Saying "It says nothing", "It does nothing" is generally not very useful for troubleshooting. Please be as specific as possible: if you see a black screen, say so, if you see a shell prompt, say so, if you see an !error message, say so. - Also, most !CLI commands don't print anything when they succeed, but only when they fail.
[09:45] <touch> Hmm.. there goes the I don't know anything about nothing line
[09:46] <intelikey> !myself
[09:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about myself - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:46] <matthew_> !God
[09:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about God - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:46] <touch> !the world
[09:46] <ubotu> the: Full-screen character mode text editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1-4 (edgy), package size 277 kB, installed size 796 kB
[09:46] <touch> O.o
[09:46] <intelikey> lol
[09:47] <intelikey> it only parsed the
[09:47] <intelikey> i wonder if it always drops world
[09:47] <intelikey> !cdw world
[09:47] <ubotu> cdw: Tool for burning CD's - console version. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.3-6 (edgy), package size 40 kB, installed size 180 kB
[09:47] <intelikey> yep
[09:47] <touch> !theworld
[09:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about theworld - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:48] <touch> AHA!
[09:48] <intelikey> wish it ignored i
[09:48] <matthew_> !the_world
[09:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about the_world - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:48] <intelikey> !'the world at large'
[09:48] <ubotu> the: Full-screen character mode text editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1-4 (edgy), package size 277 kB, installed size 796 kB
[09:49] <lupine_85> harsh
[09:49] <touch> !duckbilled platypus
[09:49] <lupine_85> be nice to the poor bot
[09:49] <touch> I just got a PM From the Bot! O.o
[09:49] <intelikey> !botsnack
[09:49] <ubotu> Yum!
[09:49] <intelikey> ok
[09:49] <touch> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[09:49] <lupine_85> hehe
[09:49] <touch> I think I'll leave him be before he sicks Mr. Roboto on me
[09:50] <BrianSteffens> i just installed compiz, how do i use it ;P
[09:50] <intelikey> terminator ?
[09:50] <intelikey> !compiz
[09:50] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:51] <intelikey> the    Help in #ubuntu-xgl    seems apropos
[09:52] <lupine_85> amd64 9746 uploading....
[09:53] <nvman90> Did you already get i386 up?
[09:53] <lupine_85> no, sorry. I have to reboot to build that
[09:53] <lupine_85> and I hate rebooting :p
[09:53] <nvman90> Oh
[09:53] <nvman90> :(
[09:53] <nvman90> that sucks
[09:53] <lupine_85> so I thought I'd do amd64 first
[09:53] <nvman90> lol alright
[09:53] <lupine_85> I'll do i386 straight after
[09:53] <nvman90> Just make me stay up longer ;)
[09:53] <nvman90> nah i'm just kidding go at your own pace
[09:54] <lupine_85> hey, I've not been to sleep yet :p
[09:54] <lupine_85> [08:54]  <lupine_85> hey, I've not been to sleep yet :p
[09:54] <nvman90> LOL
[09:54] <nvman90> LOL wow
[09:54] <intelikey> nvman90 you could just check tomarrow....
[09:54] <nvman90> Ya...I could...
[09:55] <lupine_85> only 832kbps
[09:57] <matthew_> lupine_85, aw, quit whining...
[09:57] <lupine_85> :p
[09:57] <intelikey> yuch   the three examples in man tar all have -vv in them.....
[09:57] <matthew_> lupine_85, only got about 128 Kbs or so...
[09:57] <lupine_85> I can get 2.4Mbps soon
[09:57] <matthew_> lupine_85, are you hosting a site or something?
[09:57] <lupine_85> that's at home
[09:58] <lupine_85> I've got one server in london @ 5mbps; the other @100mbps
[09:58] <matthew_> lupine_85, nice
[09:58] <lupine_85> very :D
[09:58] <jordo23> Anyone here run a 64 bit platform?
[09:59] <jordo23> Lupine_85 You run Kubuntu 64 bit edition?
[09:59] <lupine_85> yes
[10:00] <jordo23> lupine_85:  Did you ever get flash working for konqueror?
[10:00] <lupine_85> no
[10:00] <lupine_85> a 32bit chroot should do the trick though
[10:00] <jordo23> I tried it but couldn't get it to work...
[10:00] <jordo23> lupine_85: Can you walk me through it?
[10:00] <lupine_85> I've not done it
[10:01] <jordo23> how would i do that then?
[10:01] <intelikey> !chroot
[10:01] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[10:01] <reldruh> hello
[10:01] <lupine_85> repo updated for amd64.... I'm moving to i386 now...
[10:03] <reldruh> As I was playing with ndiswrapper kubuntu stopped recognizing my wireless card, even though kubuntu says the driver and device are present. Can anybody help me get it working?
[10:03] <jordo23> Will Adobe ever release a 64 bit flash port?
[10:04] <intelikey> !wifi
[10:04] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:04] <johey> When using Ktorrent, all the time my downloads and uploads stops because there are too many open files. How can I increase the limit?
[10:04] <johey> When using Ktorrent, all the time my downloads and uploads stops because there are too many open files. How can I increase the limit?
[10:04] <jordo23> You increase the settings in config options.
[10:04] <stdin> jordo23: apparently you don't need a chroot to get flash in firefox: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[10:04] <johey> Sorry.
[10:05] <jordo23> stdin: I use Konqueror though....doesn't work for Konq
[10:05] <jordo23> stdin: Already read that article :)
[10:05] <intelikey> johey man ulimit      it may be restricting you.
[10:06] <johey> jordo23: It is not about maximum downloads or so, but more on a lower level. I think it exceeds the OS limits of maximum number of open files.
[10:06] <johey> intelikey: Aha oki, thanks! I'll take a look at that.
[10:06] <intelikey> johey ulimit
[10:06] <touch> Is there any command I can use to at least see if Linux SEES my USB connection on my Touchscreen?
[10:07] <jordo23> touch: you have a touch screen?
[10:07] <touch> Yeah.. nonworking I'm afraid
[10:07] <touch> At least under Kubuntu Edgy
[10:07] <intelikey> johey pam can also squeeze things    but i don't think default ubuntu is configured that way.    still having a look in /etc/security/access.conf   wont hurt
[10:07] <max_> can somoene tell me what the deal is with "Super Cow Powers"
[10:08] <stdin> makes things moooove faster
[10:08] <intelikey> touch lsusb
[10:08] <touch> It's an apt thing max_
[10:08] <stdin> :p
[10:08] <max_> i know that
[10:08] <BrianSteffens> does xgl help make windows resize and stuff smoother?
[10:08] <max_> but whats it mean
[10:09] <touch> Well.. it sees it. :) But it can't identify it like it can my Microsoft Mouse
[10:09] <johey> intelikey: Ah oki. One more thing. My downloads and uploads goes to and from an NFS mount. Can it be the file system or the settings of the remote computer?
[10:09] <touch> Best I get is Bus 001 Device 006: ID 1391:1000
[10:10] <intelikey> johey if it's on the other end you will find more connection refused type errors
[10:10] <intelikey> or timed out
[10:10] <johey> intelikey: man ulimit is section 3, the linux programmer manual. Is that the one you mean?
[10:10] <stdin> max_:  apparently it just an easter egg
[10:11] <intelikey> johey yeah
[10:11] <exs> how do I update ktorrent under the live cd? (kubuntu 6.06LTS)
[10:11] <touch> Hmm.. using Bus 001 Device 006: ID 1391:1000, if I were trying to tell xorg.conf where the device was.. would it be /dev/event6?
[10:12] <Kouya> hi
[10:12] <intelikey> johey ulimit is also a bash built-in   you can  help ulimit | less     for that side of the info.
[10:12] <Kouya> I can't get the sun Java plugin to work :/
[10:13] <Kouya> it is installed, selected at update-alternatives and still konqueror doesn't find the plugin
[10:14] <lupine_85> yhelothere :p
[10:15] <lupine_85> i386 build proceeding...
[10:15] <nvman90> Hey you restarted that must mean your working on i386
[10:15] <nvman90> awesome
[10:15] <stdin> Kouya: did you install 'sun-java5-plugins' too?
[10:15] <Kouya> stdin: yes
[10:15] <lupine_85> you should consider yourself honoured that I rebooted for you :p
[10:15] <rohan> my acer travel mate 3260 has an intel GMA 950 card. however, ubuntu gives max resolution of 1924x768 only. how do i increase it ?
[10:15] <nvman90> Oh I do :)
[10:16] <lupine_85> :p
[10:16] <johey> intelikey: This might be it. It seems like I have maximum 1024 file descriptors. If Ktorrent use one descriptor per segment, it may be exceeded. Do you know if that is the way it operates?
[10:16] <lupine_85> rohan: "only"? That's huge
[10:16] <Kouya> I get "sun-java5-plugin is already the newest version." when I run apt-get install sun-java5-plugin
[10:16] <intelikey> johey idk.   easy test is to rase the bar
[10:17] <rohan> lupine_85: well, windows goes higher
[10:17] <johey> intelikey: :) Yes, sorry.
[10:18] <intelikey> well there went my boot loader.      tty24 [root@~]  badblocks -w /dev/hda
[10:19] <intelikey> next i guess i'll trash hdc
[10:19] <johey> intelikey: One problem though... bash: ulimit: open files: cannot modify limit: Operationen inte tillten (that means operation not allowed), and as sudo it says sudo: ulimit: command not found
[10:20] <Kouya> rohan: maybe that's a configuration limit
[10:20] <Kouya> but it is possible that you're able to select a resolution on the 'official' configuration file
[10:20] <intelikey> johey you'll have to edit /etc/profile  i think.    set it from there  then it's imutable for the user
[10:21] <stdin> johey: try sudo -s to get a root shell first
[10:21] <johey> intelikey: Oh okay, so this limit is per user and not per process? Or is it globally system wide?
[10:21] <Kouya> stdin: java plugin is installed but still undetected by konqueror
[10:21] <intelikey> stdin i don't think that will help on ulimit setting.  it's per-shell limits
[10:21] <Kouya> it is selected on update-alternatives
[10:21] <stdin> ah
[10:22] <rohan> Kouya: well, cant 915resolution help me go higher ?
[10:22] <intelikey> johey yes per-shell   as in login id
[10:22] <lostoner> Can someone explain to me how to tell what hardware address my device is plugged into via USB? Like /dev/input/whatever
[10:23] <Kouya> rohan: it's not very good to mess with xorg.conf to select a resolution because it may make you unable to select a resolution you forgot to list
[10:23] <intelikey> johey when you login it reads that in and everything under that login is counted as part of the total
[10:23] <lupine_85> ARGH! fscking jumping sound cards
[10:23] <BrianSteffens> compiz will neither install nor uninstall. it seems like each thing relies on each other thing
[10:23] <Kouya> lostoner: if kde automounted it
[10:23] <rohan> Kouya: ah, ok .. thanks for warning me :)
[10:23] <Kouya> lostoner: go to a console and type "mount"
[10:23] <johey> intelikey: Ok. And if I set it in /etc/profile, will it apply to all my processes, even those started from the K menu?
[10:24] <MistaED> lupine_85: cheers for the amd64 nvidia module! it seems to work nicely
[10:24] <intelikey> johey yes
[10:24] <lostoner> Will that work for hardware Kouya? I know it works with drives
[10:24] <intelikey> but you will have to logout and then login to activate it
[10:24] <johey> intelikey: Aha, you already replied to that. :) So this is per X session, so now I need to log in and out?
[10:24] <intelikey> no it's bigger than per-x
[10:24] <BrianSteffens> anyone know what to do if i have a failed, halfway install of something and neither install nor remove work?
[10:25] <nvman90> lostoner: lshw should tell you
[10:25] <Kouya> well, I have to go
[10:25] <Kouya> I'll come back in the afternoon :P
[10:25] <Kouya> school time
[10:25] <intelikey> johey and yes you'll have to log out/in
[10:25] <johey> Okay. Brb, I hope.
[10:25] <oem> could someone please tell me how to make kubuntu to get other repositories?
[10:26] <oem> I'm totally new
[10:26] <intelikey> !repos | oem
[10:26] <ubotu> oem: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:26] <lostoner> Well.. that shows everything but the touchscreen
[10:26] <lostoner> Except whatever the heck  IdealTEK is
[10:27] <intelikey> lostoner google might reviel what it is
[10:27] <intelikey> johey ulimit -a    ?
[10:27] <lupine_85> ok... uploading i386
[10:28] <lupine_85> expect it to be complete in ~10 minutes
[10:28] <lostoner> Google shows nothing but an eBay seller LOL
[10:28] <johey> intelikey: Still 1024.
[10:28] <Edulix> anyone knows how to download a youtube video with wget or smoething? I've tried to install some script from kde-apps but none of them works now
[10:28] <nvman90> alright well i've been waiting this long 10min should be nothing
[10:29] <Edulix> supposedly, with http://www.youtube.com/get_video.php?video_id=aRHk8ol0vTw (for example) you would download the video, but it deosn't work anymore
[10:29] <Edulix> or maybe I'm mistaken? :P
[10:29] <Edulix> sorry, there's no #youtube hehe
[10:29] <johey> intelikey: Maybe 65536 is more than I can set?
[10:29] <intelikey> hehhe maybe
[10:30] <intelikey> idk i've never set  -n   only  -u   for easy fork bomb protection
[10:30] <johey> intelikey: Hm.. But with sudo su, I can set it to 65536, so maybe there is something else...
[10:31] <exst> how do i install firefox on kubuntu?
[10:31] <intelikey> it may be pam   look into /etc/security/
[10:31] <CMeBuyAnotherRou> very easy, exst!
[10:31] <stdin> exst: open adept and install firefix
[10:31] <intelikey> !ff | exst
[10:31] <ubotu> exst: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[10:31] <luca_b> exst: either you use Adept, or you can drop to a console and use "sudo aptitude install firefox"
[10:32] <exst> ok thanks
[10:32] <intelikey> luca_b or even just a terminal
[10:32] <intelikey> no need to drop to a console for that.
[10:33] <luca_b> intelikey: Oh, I didn't mean switch to a VT, I meant use konsole or equivalent, sorry
[10:33] <intelikey> figured that.  but didn't want to confuse things even more.
[10:33] <johey> intelikey: When I change something in the pam files, how do I make the settings apply? Relogin into X, right?
[10:34] <intelikey> johey yes
[10:35] <intelikey> johey not that you would probably have a console open  but if you do you'll have to log out there too.
[10:35] <johey> intelikey: Oki. But it is not logged to any file?
[10:35] <intelikey> ?
[10:36] <johey> intelikey: Never mind. I misunderstood.
[10:36] <johey> Brb again.
[10:37] <johey> Hoo-ha. Pam is teh shit. :D
[10:38] <intelikey> !language | johey
[10:38] <ubotu> johey: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:38] <intelikey> and yeah.
[10:38] <CMeBuyAnotherRou> haha
[10:38] <johey> Yeye. Sorry.
[10:39] <intelikey> is the rest of your nick Router ?
[10:39] <intelikey> CMeBuyAnotherRou ?
[10:40] <CMeBuyAnotherRou> yes :P
[10:40] <luca_b> johey: PAM can be troublesome, yes
[10:40] <CMeBuyAnotherRou> my router fails
[10:40] <CMeBuyAnotherRou> all the time
[10:40] <Jucato> thank goodness for nick tab completion :)
[10:40] <CMeBuyAnotherRou> or it could be "buy another round" ;)
[10:40] <intelikey> build one out an old pc   linux routers quite well i hear.
[10:40] <luca_b> I and my brother built our own Ubuntu router
[10:41] <johey> luca_b: Maybe so, but this time I meant that it solved my problem. Or, maybe just stopped causing my problem. :)
[10:41] <luca_b> ETX MB + converter for 12 V power supplu + Ubuntu server
[10:41] <luca_b> and a 100 Gb 2.5" HDD, net install, all right
[10:43] <intelikey> johey at any rate PAM is very powerful    if you play with it be sure to leave your self a back door   :)
[10:44] <johey> intelikey: You mean like an installation DVD for a quick recover? :p
[10:45] <intelikey> johey i like to drop to a console login and issue sudo -i then openvt -fc 24    and exit exit.   that will give you a root console on tty24 so you can logout all you want and if for what ever reason you can't log back in you have the root console  to fix it in.
[10:46] <Simian__> i can't remember what the command is to remove a directory that is full of files
[10:46] <lupine_85> nvman90: if you haven't yet, you should be able to upgrade now
[10:46] <intelikey> johey btw  right-alt+f12   is quick access to tty24  from console #
[10:46] <Jucato> Simian__: rm -rf directory
[10:46] <nvman90> lupine: alright thanks!
[10:46] <Simian__> Jucato: thanks
[10:47] <Jucato> Simian__: just never do "sudo rm -rf /". never
[10:47] <lupine_85> heh
[10:47] <Simian__> Jucato: lol ok
[10:47] <lupine_85> I can think of one situation where it  might be useful
[10:47] <lupine_85> a bit like crossing the beams, really
[10:47] <johey> intelikey: Cool. Thanks for telling me that after I have been playing with the settings. :)
[10:47] <intelikey> lol
[10:48] <intelikey> i did tell you to look into PAM  i didn't tell you you were ready to start editing   lol
[10:48] <johey> intelikey: Good point. Heh.
[10:48] <intelikey> but hey it worked     right  ?
[10:48] <Jucato> hm.. has anyone else noticed this: starting a new user (while the current one is still running), the new X session is tied to Ctrl+Alt+F9, not F8?
[10:49] <johey> Yes, intelikey. Now I have the limit of 65536 file descriptors for my main user. I haven't verified that it was the causing problem for Ktorrent, but I believe it was.
[10:49] <stdin> Jucato: nope
[10:49] <Jucato> hm...
[10:49] <Jucato> strange...
[10:50] <stdin> always starts on VT8 if i start a new session
[10:50] <Jucato> ctrl+alt+f8, right?
[10:50] <stdin> yeah
[10:50] <intelikey> johey so you also have a cool backdoor (or root console)   if you ever need to play in low end settings again/some_more      i just thought you might take a note.
[10:51] <intelikey> and maybe when you tell someone how to do what you've done you'll tell them to make a trap door first.  :)
[10:52] <intelikey> ok  i'm going back to destroing all data on 5 hard drives.
[10:52] <seven11> is there a package for a consol browser and if whats the name
[10:53] <johey> intelikey: Hmm, okay. :D Thanks for the help!
[10:53] <intelikey> np
[10:53] <stdin> seven11: a web browser?
[10:53] <seven11> jo
[10:53] <seven11> web browser
[10:53] <intelikey> seven11 w3m lynx links2 elinks      and possably others.
[10:53] <Jucato> w3m? links?
[10:53] <stdin> seven11: lynx, links and elinks  are the ones I know of
[10:54] <seven11> thanks lynx was what i was looking for
[10:54] <stdin> elinks in screen is quite useful
[10:54] <intelikey> seven11 if you like lynx   you'll probably like elinks  too.
[10:54] <lupine_85> seven11: links2 does javascript
[10:54] <lupine_85> very helpful
[10:55] <intelikey> elinks does too
[10:55] <intelikey> and tables
[10:55] <Jucato> intelikey: what do you use?
[10:55] <intelikey> elinks
[10:55] <seven11> ok i will have a look at both of them
[10:55] <Jucato> ah let me try that....
[10:55] <Jucato> w3m, lynx,  links2, and elinks...
[10:56] <Jucato> and I'll pick a favorite :P
[10:56] <intelikey> and with frame buffering i can graphicly web browse in the console with elinks...   kewl
[10:56] <stdin> can even use my scroll wheel in elinks :p
[10:56] <Jucato> ok, you have me curious about elinks :)
[10:56] <Jucato> seems like w3m is installed by default...
[10:57] <_ita> hi all .. i want to create some audiocd from mp3 files via k3b.. im told mp3 i unsupported .. can anyone please help me find a software to create .wav from .mp3 ?!
[10:57] <intelikey> Jucato links2 and elinks are much alike.   both can do graphics or not  and both do java script  but elinks does ssl by defauld and links2 doesn't.      and yes w3m is probably the lightest of them all.
[10:57] <Jucato> intelikey: dunno what ssl is... is it good?
[10:58] <lupine_85> https://
[10:58] <intelikey> secure webpages
[10:58] <Jucato> aaah
[10:58] <stdin> _ita: install libk3b2-mp3
[10:58] <Jucato> kool
[10:58] <intelikey> Jucato like the ubuntu forums
[10:58] <Jucato> and the wikis
[10:59] <_ita> stdin: ok thank you i try right away
[10:59] <Jucato> links2 is the 2nd version of links, I presume?
[10:59] <intelikey> Jucato and if you are at all like i am and don't like white background   you'll want to edit /etc/elinks/elinks.conf  line     set document.colors.use_document_colors =    change from 2  to  1
[10:59] <intelikey> Jucato i recon.
[11:00] <gnomefreak> Jucato: sort of
[11:00] <Jucato> kool.
[11:00] <gnomefreak> iirc links didnt have -g
[11:00] <gnomefreak> links2 does
[11:00] <_ita> stdin: me again, if libk3b... is correct package name i cant find it in my adept/package manager
[11:00] <Jucato> won't install links... links2 then :)
[11:00] <intelikey> yes gnomefreak that's the way i remember it
[11:01] <stdin> _ita: you need the multiverse repo enabled
[11:01] <intelikey> Jucato try them in the gui  and in the console.    i use elinks in or out of X
[11:01] <Jucato> !libk3b2-mp3
[11:01] <seven11> and one more a good irc client for the console
[11:01] <ubotu> libk3b2-mp3: The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.17-1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 37 kB, installed size 100 kB
[11:02] <Jucato> stdin: it's in universe
[11:02] <intelikey> seven11 i like bitchx
[11:02] <intelikey> some prefer irssi
[11:03] <intelikey> there is also xchat-text  but i don't know anybody that likes it.
[11:03] <Jucato> irssi, because it's installed by default....
[11:03] <Jucato> I think I'm going to learn elinks and w3m for the moment...
[11:03] <_ita> !universe
[11:03] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:03] <_ita> wow nice bot, nice ppl here thanks again i think i can do it from here .)
[11:04] <intelikey> there really isn't a dimes worth of differance in irssi and bx   when you bet past the default configs
[11:04] <intelikey> s/bet/get/
[11:04] <intelikey> git
[11:04] <Jucato> intelikey: except if you need to use what's installed by default really quick
[11:04] <intelikey> got
[11:04] <intelikey> gut
[11:05] <intelikey> Jucato and that.
[11:05] <intelikey> i gat me past that somehow.
[11:05] <Jucato> hey kool... elinks has mouse support... but... kinda feels weird that there's mouse support :)
[11:06] <intelikey> Jucato so does links2
[11:06] <Jucato> so I see
[11:06] <intelikey> in or out of the console
[11:06] <nvman90> still having problems with starting x...
[11:07] <_ita> i think i have enabled my universe with adept at de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu .. im using breezy maybe thats a problem !?
[11:07] <Jucato> _ita: the package name might be different in breezy. not really sure
[11:07] <_ita> ok thanks again
[11:08] <intelikey> man it takes a while for     tty24 [root@~]  badblocks -w /dev/hdc
[11:10] <Jucato> ah w3m does have mouse support too...
[11:11] <Jucato> intelikey: links2's -g only works if X is running right?
[11:11] <Jucato> not again....
[11:29] <Conhe> how-to running cobol program ?
[12:03] <eMaX_> anyone uses firefox here and can test whether he can browse to the following page: http://www.ch.map24.com/
[12:03] <eMaX_> My firefox crashes immediately
[12:05] <sonicGB> eMaX_: my firefox is fine
[12:05] <Jucato> eMaX_: takes a long time to load... but not crashing
[12:05] <sonicGB> mah fahfahx ees not taken by ur phisch!
[12:05] <eMaX_> damn.
[12:06] <luca_b> eMaX_: often this is due to plugins, is that a Flash page?
[12:06] <eMaX_> mnott@linux:~$ firefox http://www.ch.map24.com/
[12:06] <eMaX_> Segmentation fault
[12:07] <eMaX_> well it contains a java applet
[12:07] <rpv> hi all
[12:07] <sonicGB> wot contains a java applet?
[12:07] <luca_b> eMaX_: Have you installed java from the repositories?
[12:07] <luca_b> eMaX_: or on your own? (from sun.com I mean)
[12:08] <sonicGB> OK, I actually tried www.ch.map24.com now... firefox 2.0.0.1 on macosx tiger with latest updates, it works fine
[12:09] <eMaX_> yes. anyway don't worry will solve that anoter time
[12:10] <eMaX_> thanks
[12:10] <luca_b> loading on Kubuntu Edgy 6.10 right now, seems OK
[12:10] <eMaX_> I've got it on edgy
[12:10] <eMaX_> and also, konqueror does not allow to search a route on that page, it tells me there are javascript errors
[12:10] <luca_b> eMaX_: can you open a terminal and paste "dpkg -s sun-java5-plugin | grep Version"
[12:10] <luca_b> and report the output
[12:11] <eMaX_> Version: 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1
[12:11] <luca_b> eMaX_: Hmm. Installed correctly
[12:12] <luca_b> eMaX_: you may want to retry instlaling the plugin and see if the problem persists (apt-get install --reinstall sun-java5-plugin)
[12:12] <luca_b> (do that with firefox closed, of course)
[12:12] <eMaX_> about:plugins also says that:
[12:12] <eMaX_>     Dateiname: libjavaplugin_oji.so
[12:12] <eMaX_>     Java(TM) Plug-in 1.5.0_08
[12:13] <luca_b> eMaX_: Either temporarily unistall the plugin and see if firefox crashes still, or try reinstalling the plugin
[12:15] <eMaX_> reinstalled, still crashes.
[12:15] <eMaX_> never mind, IE shows it and it is the only page so far that doesn't work, good enough for me to run up my vmware
[12:17] <lupine_85> eMaX_: how about konqueror ?
[12:19] <eMaX_> as I said, gives JS error
[12:19] <eMaX_> must be their stupid snowflakes
[12:19] <sdlnxgk> snowflakes where?
[12:22] <Stalwart> snowflakes on webpages suck more than black holes
[12:23] <sdlnxgk> Stalwart why is that snowflakes suck???
[12:23] <lupine_85> xsnow++
[12:25] <Stalwart> sdlnxgk: snowflakes must be cold and wet, not javascripted and annoying
[12:25] <sdlnxgk> lol
[12:25] <sdlnxgk> I agree with that !!
[12:26] <sdlnxgk> firefox been having issues with java and flash, just seems to freeze up
[12:26] <Stalwart> sdlnxgk: get adblock
[12:26] <luca_b> sdlnxgk: Means the plugins aren't behaving properly
[12:26] <lupine_85> lol
[12:27] <lupine_85> > 800MB last night
[12:27] <lupine_85> (edgy->feisty)
[12:27] <Stalwart> i installed feisty hour ago
[12:27] <luca_b> ah, was about to ask that
[12:27] <sdlnxgk> luca_b I think it means that the plug-ins are higher then what I have installed
[12:27] <Stalwart> ok, need to go
[12:27] <Stalwart> bb
[12:27] <luca_b> sdlnxgk: I try to avoid sites that use Flash, not because of the plugins but because I hate the technology
[12:28] <luca_b> sdlnxgk: and did you try with konqueror?
[12:28] <sdlnxgk> ya I try to avoid them too but sometimes I need to get info from there page and just freezes and I have to stop the process:(
[12:28] <luca_b> FF's architecture has some problems, I don't think that plugins activate in a separate thread
[12:28] <sdlnxgk> ya same thing
[12:29] <Stalwart> konq and opera are better
[12:29] <luca_b> sdlnxgk: then it's definitely a plugin issue
[12:29] <Stalwart> konq4 will have webkit engine!!! \o/
[12:30] <einstein_> gksudo gedit /etc/fsta  <--- and im getting gksudo command not found error :(
[12:30] <luca_b> Stalwart: agreed, IMO FF is mostly a Win32 application, at least for some design philosophies
[12:30] <Stalwart> einstein_: use kdesu
[12:30] <einstein_> yy...
[12:30] <luca_b> Stalwart: WebKit is not scheduled to be included in KDE 4 AFAIK, but it may be, depends how the Unity project progesses
[12:30] <sdlnxgk> luca_b  I like FF and it seems to work better on Kubuntu then my windows machine at work..
[12:31] <Stalwart> luca_b: i'm sure 4.1 will include unity
[12:31] <Stalwart> ok, must go for real =\
[12:32] <luca_b> sdlnxgk: I haven't used Windows in a long time, I don't know how FF fares there
[12:32] <sdlnxgk> the only think I do know is that it pretty much works out of the box in linux and as a win32 application you have to set things up to work..
[12:33] <sdlnxgk> I wish I could change the OS at work but think the hospital would be a tad bit pissed off at me ;)
[12:54] <ForgeAus> I'm ba-ack
[12:54] <ForgeAus> and managed to expand my disk!
[12:54] <ForgeAus> using system recovery tools cd or something from sourceforge...
[12:54] <ForgeAus> with some help from gpart...
[01:05] <ForgeAus> hey all :)
[01:05] <ForgeAus> so now I'm running kubuntu...
[01:08] <gianlux89cs> who is hacker??
[01:10] <naelphin> if i have xubuntu installed and want to change to kubuntu, how would i do it?
[01:10] <soulrider> naelphin: you can just install KDE
[01:10] <soulrider> or install kubuntu-desktop
[01:11] <naelphin> will it replace xubuntu?
[01:11] <soulrider> i think doing\"aptitude install kubuntu-desktop" will be best
[01:11] <naelphin> or will the clash and crash
[01:11] <soulrider> i think you cans till log back into XFCE
[01:11] <soulrider> i mean
[01:11] <soulrider> the only difference
[01:11] <soulrider> is the graphic enviroment
[01:11] <soulrider> KDE or XFCE
[01:11] <soulrider> theres really no other difference
[01:11] <naelphin> and if i change back, i just need to unselect the desktop meta?
[01:11] <naelphin> and it'll go back to xfce?
[01:22] <soulrider> naelphin: im not sure
[01:22] <soulrider> but i doubt things will get screwed up
[01:33] <jerp> naelphin: you can have both if you have the disk space and know how to add the right entries into the login screen
[01:35] <rpv> naelphin: install kubuntu-desktop and in kdm you can switch between kde and xfce
[01:37] <naelphin> I got kmag, how do i make it always load in bottom edge mode? when i restart it goes back to an ordinary window
[01:37] <naelphin> thanks for help also
[01:43] <jerp> naelphin: right click on the titlebar and use Advance/Special Window Settings  and tinker away
[01:44] <kokuryuu> moin
[01:45] <jerp> goot mionin
[01:46] <thea_> hello
[01:47] <krzysztof> soemka
[01:47] <krzysztof> siemka
[01:47] <D4rkly> how can i install an rmp ?
[01:47] <krzysztof> no england
[01:47] <krzysztof> polish
[01:47] <jerp> meka leka hi meka hiny ho
[01:49] <[GuS] > hi!
[01:50] <jerp> morning Gus
[01:54] <[GuS] > morning jerp :)
[01:57] <momal> can someone tell me the thing to install grub the cmd... i installed kubuntu on friends pc and it didn't put grub on the sata harddrive so it just auto boots window >_<
[02:05] <Whopper> hi
[02:05] <Whopper> how do i change my screen resolution?
[02:08] <brandon> hello, I need help mounting my sdb1 ext3 drive
[02:09] <uyusuk> mercury messenger install help
[02:09] <uyusuk> please
[02:10] <ForgeAus> back
[02:10] <ForgeAus> mercury messenger?
[02:10] <uyusuk> yes
[02:10] <vrun> Hi all :-)
[02:14] <vrun> I am sitting in front of a kubuntu edgy ... that has  a  ...Section "Module" load "glx" EndSection... but insists that ...Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"....
[02:14] <vrun> any ideas anyone ?
[02:14] <ForgeAus> which is better WMaker Afterstep or what?
[02:15] <ForgeAus> no idea vrun
[02:16] <vrun> Thanks ForgeAus
[02:17] <lupine_85> vrun: any errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[02:19] <vrun> lupine_85: nothing I found serious ... a couple of "could not init font files" and "error opening security policy"
[02:19] <vrun> You think of anything specific ?
[02:20] <lupine_85> vrun: I was looking for "cannot load GLX" errors... :s nothing's ever simple
[02:20] <lupine_85> anything unusual in glxinfo ?
[02:21] <momal> How do I instal grub if the primary harddrive is sata and is ntfs (/dev/sda) and I want to get grub on there or someway to get /dev/hdc (linux) to boot using grub
[02:22] <vrun> lots and lots of "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"."  :-) :-) :-)
[02:22] <lupine_85> OpenGL renderer string OK? version string?
[02:22] <vrun> ...see THATS the funny stuff ... NO rendering string at all ;-)
[02:23] <vrun> obviously glxinfo doesn't give info if there is no GLX <sigh>
[02:24] <vrun> ...or am I not getting what you just wrote?
[02:25] <uyusuk> how can  install to mercury mesenger in ubuntu...Can you help me?
[02:26] <vrun> btw "(WW)" in /var/log/Xorg.0.log" says :
[02:26] <vrun> (II) Module vbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[02:26] <vrun>         compiled for 7.1.1, module version = 1.1.0
[02:26] <vrun>         ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 1.0
[02:26] <vrun> (II) LoadModule: "glx"
[02:26] <vrun> (WW) Warning, couldn't open module glx
[02:26] <vrun> (II) UnloadModule: "glx"
[02:26] <vrun> (EE) Failed to load module "glx" (module does not exist, 0)
[02:26] <vrun> ... (sorry for the flood) -vrun-
[02:26] <lupine_85> there we go!
[02:26] <lupine_85> so the glx module doesn't exist
[02:27] <vrun> YUP ... but where is it gone to ? :-)
[02:27] <lupine_85> have you updated your kernel or your video drivers recently?
[02:27] <lupine_85> there was an issue recently where a non-ABI kernel upgrade clobbered certain nvidia drivers
[02:27] <lupine_85> try a reinstall
[02:27] <vrun> (not me) but YES ... the proud owner of this machine has updated recently ...
[02:28] <lupine_85> sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) nvidia-glx
[02:28] <lupine_85> that might do the trick
[02:28] <vrun> ...this machine is an INTEL 855 (810) on board
[02:28] <vrun> ;-/
[02:28] <dust> anyone installed cinelerra on edgy?
[02:29] <lupine_85> oh... ok :/
[02:29] <lupine_85> I'm not sure where those drivers would be hidden
[02:29] <lupine_85> try searching for intel in adept and updating/installing anything likely-looking
[02:30] <vrun> I thought they are in the 810 module these days ...iow all x,org modules are in the respective drivers (or am I totally out of line) ?
[02:31] <lupine_85> vrun: could be it, yeah
[02:31] <lupine_85> try reinstall the relevant xorg-driver- package
[02:31] <lupine_85> also, see if the glx file is in /usr/lib/xorg anywhere
[02:31] <vrun> ok ... will do now ... thanks ... brb
[02:33] <soulrider> does anyone her eprogram in python ?
[02:56] <pasturo> goodmorning i have a problem with kubuntu 6.06 if  i click add/del program to go this window "another process is using the packaging system database" but i don't see process
[02:56] <Stalwart> pasturo: are you sure? probably update notifier uses it
[02:56] <ForgeAus> theres a command that synaptic told me to fix that
[02:57] <ForgeAus> kdesu apt-get with a -d switch or something... do some web browsing I aren't sure I'm right exactly about it... theres proably more
[02:57] <brandon> Jucato: you here?
[02:58] <Jucato> brandon: yep?
[02:58] <pasturo> thanks
[02:59] <brandon> could you help me mount my ext3
[03:00] <Jucato> brandon: hm.. I'm not really good with mounting... I just use the Disk & Filesystems module in System Settings when I need to
[03:02] <brandon> does it mount it for you?
[03:04] <Jucato> yep.
[03:04] <brandon> how, click new?
[03:04] <Jucato> you have to enter Administrator Mode, then click new
[03:04] <Guardian> hmm
[03:04] <brandon> i did and nothing happens
[03:04] <Guardian> where is the konqueror cache ?
[03:05] <Guardian> i opened a page this morning
[03:05] <Guardian> but it is already gone
[03:05] <Guardian> could i get it back from my local drive ? :)
[03:05] <Jucato> brandon: no dialog box pops up?
[03:05] <brandon> no
[03:05] <pasturo> i have make apt-get with a -d but don't go
[03:06] <Jucato> hm... check if it's not covered by other windows
[03:06] <pasturo> no
[03:06] <Jucato> that was for brandon
[03:06] <pasturo> a ok
[03:07] <brandon> Jucato: it is not.
[03:07] <Jucato> hm.. strange...
[03:07] <brandon> yeah.
[03:08] <Trist_an> When I right click on a file and do send by e-mail, it doesn't work. I'm using kubuntu and I'd like to e-mail directly with thunderbird. Is it possible?
[03:10] <brandon> Trist_an: set you email in system settings prefered applications
[03:11] <brandon> excuse me, default applications
[03:11] <brandon> also check the program settings
[03:11] <Jucato> !fstab | brandon
[03:11] <ubotu> brandon: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[03:14] <esaym> anyone know how to disable the graphical shutdown?
[03:14] <esaym> it causes my ati card to lock up
[03:14] <brandon> Jucato: how do i see where the drive is located again
[03:14] <Stalwart> disable splash
[03:14] <brandon> cat /proc/something
[03:14] <lupine_85> that graphical shutdown is funny
[03:14] <esaym> in grub?
[03:14] <Trist_an> brandon, thunderbird is already my defalut mail client
[03:14] <Stalwart> esaym: yes, there was cheatcode for kernel to disable bootsplash
[03:14] <lupine_85> fugly hack means it's tied to kdm rather than shutdown...
[03:15] <brandon> Trist_an: check the program settings
[03:15] <brandon> also check that the other email program isn't set to default
[03:15] <esaym> ok thanks, i should have thought of that
[03:15] <Trist_an> but when I click right and choose send by e-mail it says that cannot find /bin/ktbmail
[03:15] <Jucato> brandon: "sudo fdisk -l"? not entirely sure
[03:15] <Trist_an> brandon, where can I check program settings. I went to kcontrol
[03:15] <brandon> yeah
[03:16] <brandon> system settings default applications
[03:16] <Trist_an> then KDE components, default applications
[03:16] <brandon> or settings, configure _____
[03:16] <brandon> in the program
[03:16] <Trist_an> And here for mail is mozilla-thunderbird
[03:17] <brandon> than check the program
[03:17] <brandon> what email client defaults, and in what program
[03:18] <Trist_an> In thunderbird I have some config but I don't know what I should change
[03:18] <Trist_an> in kcontrol, thunderbird is the default mail client
[03:20] <brandon> i mean where are you clicking that opens this other email
[03:20] <brandon> Jucato: does this look about good?
[03:21] <brandon> ....       /dev/sdb1       /media/Smith    ext3        user,auto      0       0
[03:21] <pasturo> an other process could be adaptec
[03:21] <brandon> lol
[03:22] <Jucato> brandon: here's mine: /dev/hdb8 /media/temp ext3 users,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
[03:23] <brandon> i just saw some crazy number after udf on cdrom and got curious
[03:23] <brandon> thought maybe the hd needed one
[03:23] <brandon> so now it's just save and mount -a in terminal?
[03:23] <Trist_an> for example I have a file on my desktop I want to e-mail, I right click and do send by e-mail but it wants to use another program I don't have while I want to use thunderbird
[03:24] <Trist_an> I think it has something to do with konqueror but I don't know where to configure that
[03:24] <Jucato> brandon: um.. I think you need to put "default" among the options
[03:24] <DaSkreech> Morning nixternal
[03:24] <Jucato> brandon: I mean "defaults".
[03:24] <DaSkreech> Morning nikkiana
[03:24] <brandon> where Jucato
[03:24] <Jucato> "user, auto, defaults"
[03:24] <DaSkreech> sounds fstabby
[03:25] <brandon> done, now how do i mount it
[03:25] <Jucato> mount -a
[03:25] <DaSkreech> 0_O
[03:25] <DaSkreech> Anyone else got an update for OO.o?
[03:25] <brandon> for what?
[03:26] <DaSkreech> brandon: Me?
[03:26] <RealisticDragon> yes DaSkreech, d'ling now
[03:26] <DaSkreech> Ok two questions
[03:26] <DaSkreech>  what happened to 2.1?
[03:26] <RealisticDragon> actually i started d'ling it last night, for some reason my DSL has been throttled to 5k/sec for apt :(
[03:26] <DaSkreech> and how do you have a versioned font?
[03:26] <Jucato> openofficeorg 2.0.4-0ubuntu4 0 in edgy-updates
[03:27] <RealisticDragon> 2.1 probably wont get in DaSkreech, except in backports
[03:27] <brandon> shoot, what do I have to install for mp3 support?
[03:27] <Jucato> (I probably would get an update if I actually had it installed :P)
[03:27] <RealisticDragon> and fonts have versions too - just look at latex ;)
[03:27] <Jucato> brandon: libxine-extracodecs
[03:27] <Jucato> hm...
[03:27] <brandon> yeah it auto installed this time
[03:27] <brandon> YEAH~!
[03:27] <Jucato> 2.1 can be backported to Edgy only if it's already in feisty
[03:27] <Jucato> !openoffice.org feisty
[03:27] <ubotu> openoffice.org: OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 3 kB, installed size 28 kB
[03:27] <DaSkreech> I would be annoyed except I don't know hat 2.1 offers
[03:27] <DaSkreech> I heard it's faster
[03:28] <Jucato> oh there... maybe they would backport soonish...
[03:28] <RealisticDragon> ohhh nice feature in the bot
[03:28] <RealisticDragon> !kde feisty
[03:28] <ubotu> kde: the K Desktop Environment official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:47 (feisty), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB
[03:28] <Jucato> maybe, maybe not... Dapper still doesn't have Firefox 2.0 iirc..
[03:28] <RealisticDragon> 5:47??
[03:28] <RealisticDragon> from the future :P
[03:29] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Never will
[03:29] <Jucato> RealisticDragon: that's just the version of the metapackage, not KDE itself
[03:29] <brandon> uh yeah uh hmmm, adept batch is stuck on 100% done.  can I close it?
[03:29] <DaSkreech> Too many things rely on gtk for one app to break it
[03:29] <Jucato> !kdebase feisty
[03:29] <ubotu> kdebase: base components from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-1ubuntu11 (feisty), package size 48 kB, installed size 92 kB
[03:30] <Jucato> DaSkreech: meaning Firefox 2 breaks GTK on dapper?
[03:30] <Sharketor> hello all
[03:30] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[03:30] <Sharketor> I'm trying to install lopster2
[03:30] <Jucato> ah
[03:30] <brandon> the audio popping seriously needs to get fixed
[03:30] <DaSkreech> or very possibly would :)
[03:30] <brandon> how can I install drivers for my audio card?
[03:30] <Jucato> heh I thought you were speaking with definitive authority :P
[03:31] <Sharketor> after ./autogen.sh command, it says: adjust your ACLOCAL_FLAGS
[03:31] <DaSkreech> Upgrading firefox forces an upgrade of all sorts of other apps some of which may not be tested so let sleeping dogs lie
[03:31] <DaSkreech> Jucato: They had a blog entry on why it wouldn't happen
[03:31] <Jucato> ah
[03:31] <Jucato> too bad
[03:31] <Sharketor> because it doesn't find 4 autoconf macros
[03:31] <Sharketor> please help me
[03:31] <brandon> Jucato: is it possible for me to install audio drivers?
[03:32] <Jucato> brandon: um.. dunno... do you need to?
[03:32] <brandon> yeah, my audio pops
[03:32] <Jucato> ah...
[03:32] <Jucato> !sound
[03:32] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[03:33] <brandon> nah, neither of those work for me
[03:33] <brandon> i'm wondering if I should up the voltage on SPDIF/PCIE in bios
[03:34] <brandon> if that could potentially cure popping
[03:35] <brandon> clicking, crackling
[03:35] <brandon> whatever you may call it
[03:35] <Jucato> no clue really....
[03:36] <brandon> yeah but if i set it it locks me out of my bios and i have to reset everything
[03:36] <brandon> which sucks
[03:36] <strumpbyxan> Hi, I was going to install Kubuntu Edgy, what command should I use to start the installation?
[03:37] <brandon> command, don't you just put the cd in
[03:37] <brandon> it should be an option
[03:37] <brandon> start install with OEM or text mode
[03:37] <strumpbyxan> I just come to a console when I choose "Start or install kubuntu"
[03:38] <brandon> i was having the same problem, I had to format with a windows cd
[03:38] <brandon> xp actually
[03:38] <strumpbyxan> I have linux partitions prepared
[03:38] <brandon> i guess you can format with anything though
[03:39] <brandon> well i'm not sure what to do thatn
[03:39] <brandon> than*
[03:39] <strumpbyxan> OK. thanks anyway, Ill ask at some forum :)
[03:39] <Jucato> if you're using the Desktop CD (Live CD), I don't think you can install without the GUI running
[03:40] <strumpbyxan> so I should 'startx' ?
[03:40] <Jucato> you can try, although it should have done that automatically in the first place
[03:40] <strumpbyxan> OK
[03:41] <Trist_an> brandon, ok, I found that you have to do a script yourself for that to work
[03:41] <Trist_an> and found the script so it is fine now
[03:42] <BluesKaj> Howdy all! :)
[03:42] <DaSkreech> Hey hey Old Blue
[03:44] <BluesKaj> Hey DaSkreech, ...A friend sent me an internet Christmas card with "midi" coded music in it ... what plugin or player do you suggest is required to hear the music?
[03:44] <exs> can someone help me with my bcm4318?.. Currently using kubuntu 6.06LTS.
[03:44] <brandon> Trist_an: script for what
[03:44] <DaSkreech> !midi
[03:44] <ubotu> Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[03:44] <malicer> , 
[03:44] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: sometimes I love that bot :)
[03:44] <DaSkreech> !jp
[03:44] <ubotu>  #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp 
[03:44] <malicer> ?
[03:44] <BluesKaj> it's cool DaSkreech :)
[03:45] <Jucato> :)
[03:45] <DaSkreech> malicer: What language? :0
[03:45] <DaSkreech> Whats Chiniese?
[03:45] <Jucato> !cn
[03:45] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[03:45] <DaSkreech> Ah :)
[03:45] <malicer> I'm form china
[03:45] <malicer> cn
[03:45] <DaSkreech> I wonder if we hsould just have a asian
[03:45] <DaSkreech> malicer: Thanks :)
[03:46] <DaSkreech> for those who are not good with kanji etc
[03:46] <DaSkreech> Or hiranga
[03:47] <DaSkreech> malicer: need help?
[03:47] <malicer> 
[03:47] <Trist_an> brandon, to send a file with thunderbird when right clickiing on it and choosing send by e-mail
[03:48] <brandon> I like contact
[03:48] <DaSkreech> malicer: can you type /j #ubuntu-cn
[03:48] <brandon> Kontact
[03:48] <DaSkreech> brandon: I'm a basKet case
[03:48] <brandon> I have Kontact down so good that I can configure it and all my contacts in under 5 minutes
[03:48] <DaSkreech> :-(
[03:48] <brandon> lol, no you're not
[03:49] <brandon> everyone is a bit zany
[03:49] <brandon> why do you like thunderbird
[03:50] <brandon> in comparison, I like Konqueror more than firefox, but don't use it because it simply doesn't do what firefox does
[03:50] <brandon> i don't understand why konqueror can't just lie about it's browser detection method
[03:50] <exs> if i wanted to install gedit under kuuntu, what would I do?..
[03:50] <brandon> just say it's IE or firefox
[03:50] <BluesKaj> !playmidi
[03:50] <ubotu> playmidi: MIDI player. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4debian-5 (edgy), package size 112 kB, installed size 316 kB
[03:50] <brandon> or why it can't get support over the web
[03:50] <HymnToLife> exs, sudo apt-get install gedit
[03:50] <brandon> with it's high popularity
[03:51] <HymnToLife> though I can't see why wou would want to install it
[03:51] <DaSkreech> brandon: go to KOnqueror -> tools -> browser identification
[03:51] <DaSkreech> Makes gmail work instantly :)
[03:51] <exs> HymnToLife: "E: Couldn't find package gedit"..
[03:51] <DaSkreech> exs: Why do you need gedit?
[03:51] <HymnToLife> !info gedit
[03:51] <ubotu> gedit: light-weight text editor. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.1-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 689 kB, installed size 2496 kB
[03:51] <Trist_an> well I'm used to thunderbird. Why change, it does a fine job
[03:52] <DaSkreech> It's a goodthing!
[03:52] <HymnToLife> exs, do you have a net connection ?
[03:52] <exs> DaSkreech:  I'm trying to add the non-free repos.. but i need gedit editor
[03:52] <DaSkreech> exs: No you dont
[03:52] <exs> HymnToLife:  yes, using kubuntu 6.06 LTS now.
[03:52] <goodthing> heyyy DaSkreech :)
[03:52] <exs> DaSkreech:  ok
[03:52] <DaSkreech> exs: Where are you reading?
[03:52] <exs> (fresh install, i'm having to use wired connection, and trying to get my bcm 4318 to work)
[03:52] <HymnToLife> exs, you don't need gedit to do that, any text editor will do
[03:53] <exs> i need to install ndiswrapper
[03:53] <DaSkreech> exs: give me the link that you are reading :)
[03:53] <exs> but i can't find synaptics in kubuntu
[03:53] <DaSkreech> I'll walK you through
[03:53] <HymnToLife> That's what I find so annoying in Ubuntu doc
[03:53] <exs> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[03:53] <HymnToLife> it always uses GNOME Stuff
[03:53] <Stalwart> anyone here using opera on kubuntu?
[03:53] <exs> HymnToLife:  awesome!
[03:54] <HymnToLife> !anyone | Stalwart
[03:54] <ubotu> Stalwart: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:55] <DaSkreech> exs: Which line are you on?
[03:55] <Stalwart> oki, i can't run opera because.../bin/sh: /usr/lib/opera/9.10-20061214.6/opera: not found.... but file exists, i can open it in VIM o.O
[03:56] <HymnToLife> running 64 bit ubuntu ?
[03:56] <exs> DaSkreech:  1mb dsl
[03:56] <Stalwart> HymnToLife: yes
[03:56] <exs> HymnToLife:  32bit
[03:56] <HymnToLife> Stalwart, you can't run 32bit binaries in 64 bit OSes...
[03:57] <Stalwart> HymnToLife: i can on other distros
[03:57] <DaSkreech> exs: I meant where have you reached in the walkthrough. Which line was the last one you did?
[03:57] <Stalwart> and other ubuntu users run 32bit opera fine on amd64
[03:57] <exs> DaSkreech:  oh, I haven't even started. It just says u need ndiswrapper
[03:57] <HymnToLife> not ootb
[03:57] <DaSkreech> Ah
[03:57] <DaSkreech> ok
[03:57] <HymnToLife> search the wiki for it, you need to install 32 bit libs
[03:58] <DaSkreech> exs: so you are editing the sources.list?
[03:58] <exs> DaSkreech:  i think i need to, to install ndiswrapper :S.. i can't find synaptics on here
[03:58] <DaSkreech> exs: press Alt+space
[03:58] <DaSkreech> type adept
[03:58] <DaSkreech> press enter
[03:58] <DaSkreech>  that's synaptic for KDE
[03:59] <HymnToLife> though IMO it stinks
[03:59] <exs> DaSkreech:  so, adept is synaptics?
[03:59] <DaSkreech> HymnToLife: Just a little smelly
[03:59] <HymnToLife> I'd install Synaptic if I were you :p
[03:59] <DaSkreech> exs: it does the same job :)
[04:00] <DaSkreech> HymnToLife: Though we really should get a maintainer for it
[04:00] <lupine_85> adept > synaptic
[04:00] <HymnToLife> or use KPackage instead
[04:00] <brandon> adept_manager is the full name of it
[04:00] <lupine_85> and it's adept_manager these days
[04:00] <DaSkreech> For some things
[04:00] <brandon> if you want to make a shortcut
[04:00] <lupine_85> or apt-get ... :p
[04:01] <DaSkreech> hi nikkiana_lappy
[04:01] <Jucato> Dapper = adept; Edgy = adept_manager
[04:01] <brandon> apt-get AUDIO DRIVER WITH NO POPPING
[04:01] <HymnToLife> well, I still like my Synaptic sometimes
[04:01] <nikkiana_lappy> hi DaSkreech
[04:01] <DaSkreech> exs: Got that far?
[04:01] <HymnToLife> especially when I don't know the exact name for a package
[04:01] <exs> DaSkreech:  i've opened adept and can't find ndiswrapper
[04:01] <DaSkreech> !ndiswrapper
[04:01] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:02] <HymnToLife> exs, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:02] <HymnToLife> !pastebin
[04:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:03] <exs> HymnToLife:  i don't know how to get my sources.list up, what is a kubuntu editor?
[04:03] <DaSkreech> !info ndiswrapper
[04:03] <ubotu> Package ndiswrapper does not exist in any distro I know
[04:03] <DaSkreech> exs: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:04] <DaSkreech> exs: may want to do that from Alt+F2
[04:05] <exs> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38374/
[04:05] <Imrahil> Is there a program for KDE that provides equivalent or similar features to the Gnome Deskbar? It is a launcher bar that integrates well with other gnome programs, including chat, history, bookmarks, contacts, urls and more. Similar ones I have found for KDE are standard alt-f2 launcher and katapult. Katapult is nice, but its interface is limited and development seems to have died off
[04:05] <brandon> bbl yall
[04:06] <DaSkreech> Imrahil: Katapult tries
[04:06] <DaSkreech> It hasn't died off just got disorganized
[04:06] <DaSkreech>  they have had a few new versions but they seriously need some documentation
[04:06] <Imrahil> DaSkreech: there seems to be no website atm
[04:07] <DaSkreech>  and for some reason a lot of the new stuff (spelling, history plugins etc) don't seem to wend towards kubuntu
[04:07] <Imrahil> DaSkreech: can you point me to the current development svn?
[04:07] <DaSkreech> Imrahil: As I said disorganized :) they have been making a concerted effort to pull together coherence for about a month
[04:08] <DaSkreech> You can join #katapult and poke tvo or Mez
[04:08] <DaSkreech> most vocal of the group
[04:09] <olimpico> How can i install kubuntu in a remore Computer?
[04:09] <olimpico> remote?
[04:10] <compilerwriter> How exactly does katapult work?
[04:10] <Jucato> compilerwriter: press Alt+Space
[04:10] <DaSkreech> compilerwriter: on a user level or a technical level?
[04:10] <Jucato> type in the Program, Document, Bookmark, or playlist item you want to launch/use/play. you can also use it as a simple calculator
[04:10] <compilerwriter> both
[04:11] <DaSkreech> on a user level you enable which plugin (or catalogs) you want enabled and search through them
[04:11] <DaSkreech> On a technical level it has a plugin structre where you write a index/caching routine that gathers info and gets a prioroty
[04:13] <BluesKaj> How do i tell Thunderbird to open links in Firefox , not konq ?
[04:14] <Jucato> BluesKaj: "sudo update-alternatives --confige x-www-browser" if setting Firefox as the default browser doesn't work
[04:14] <DaSkreech> exs: How are you?
[04:14] <BluesKaj> weird thing is , FF is the default browser'
[04:15] <Jucato> BluesKaj: then you need that command
[04:17] <BluesKaj> thx Jucato
[04:17] <Jucato> Only KDE apps follow teh "Default Applications" settings. Thunderbird doesn't
[04:18] <compilerwriter> So it is a quicklaunch thing in a way
[04:19] <BluesKaj> I have nothing against konq , it just doesn't have the ease of setup , and plugins that i need
[04:19] <Imrahil> compilerwriter: sure. some compare it to quicksilver on macos
[04:20] <Jucato> plugins? or extensions?
[04:26] <DaSkreech> I would call it plugins since it basically can't work with out them
[04:26] <DaSkreech> so they don't really "extend" very much
[04:26] <BluesKaj> nope, the url still opens in konq , no matter what i do
[04:26] <DaSkreech> Imrahil: Ah Quicksilver on the mac is cool
[04:28] <BluesKaj> Jucato that command seems to just give a list of options but it doesn't seem to change anything
[04:29] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Thunderbird isn't a KDE application
[04:29] <DaSkreech>  it doesn't care what KDE thinks
[04:29] <Jucato> BluesKaj: did you choose FIrefox in the list to be the default web browser
[04:29] <BluesKaj> what list?
[04:29] <Jucato> BluesKaj: the command I gave you. what did you do with it?
 Jucato that command seems to just give a list of options but it doesn't seem to change anything <-- you're given an option which to use as the default browser
[04:30] <BluesKaj> I pasted it in the terminal
[04:30] <DaSkreech> exs: Hello?
[04:31] <BrianSteffens> uh
[04:31] <DaSkreech> Or not
[04:31] <BrianSteffens> how do you exit frostwire...
[04:32] <Jucato> BluesKaj: then? it will give you a numbered list. you enter which browser you want to use as the default. type in the number for Firefox
[04:33] <BrianSteffens> nevermind go tit
[04:33] <BrianSteffens> how stupid
[04:33] <BluesKaj> Jucato, I don't see a numbered list
[04:34] <DaSkreech> BrianSteffens: to go tit?
[04:34] <Jucato> BluesKaj: you said it gives you a list of options? enter the command again: sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[04:35] <BluesKaj> ok, that command worked , thx Jucato
[04:35] <DaSkreech> anyone else have konqueror always switch the search engine back to Google groups every now and then?
[04:35] <Jucato> my fault. there was a typo
[04:35] <d34l3r> hi all
[04:36] <d34l3r> i need a good DVD Ripper for Kubuntu... has anybody got an idea what program to use?
[04:36] <Jucato> DaSkreech: must have pressed the keyboard shortcut to go through the search engines
[04:36] <DaSkreech> I think I would have picked up on that by now
[04:36] <DaSkreech> K3b? :)
[04:36] <d34l3r> -.-
[04:36] <d34l3r> nope
[04:36] <d34l3r> does not support 1:1 copies of DVDs
[04:37] <Stalwart> dd supports 1:1 copies
[04:37] <d34l3r> ? dd?
[04:37] <d34l3r> oO
[04:37] <Stalwart> dd
[04:37] <d34l3r> what's dd
[04:37] <Stalwart> DestroyData
[04:37] <HymnToLife> !info dd
[04:37] <ubotu> Package dd does not exist in any distro I know
[04:37] <d34l3r> where to get
[04:37] <HymnToLife> lol
[04:37] <Stalwart> type dd in terminal :D
[04:37] <DaSkreech> d34l3r: It's installed already
[04:38] <d34l3r> hmm ok
[04:38] <Stalwart> dd if=/dev/dvd of=image.iso
[04:38] <Stalwart> then open image with mplayer
[04:38] <Stalwart> or vlc
[04:38] <DaSkreech> BrianSteffens: So how do you close Frostwire?
[04:38] <Stalwart> btw, next major version of vlc will have qt4 gui and will look better in kde ;)
[04:39] <d34l3r> how to see when it is finished
[04:39] <d34l3r> ?
[04:39] <HymnToLife> Nice
[04:39] <Stalwart> d34l3r: it will tell you "x bytes copied" and exit
[04:39] <d34l3r> after it is finishe
[04:39] <d34l3r> d
[04:39] <HymnToLife> I'l still stay as far away from it as I can manage
[04:39] <d34l3r> kk thx
[04:39] <Stalwart> you'll get 1:1 copy of dvd disc
[04:40] <Stalwart> you can even burn it with k3b
[04:40] <d34l3r> yop
[04:40] <d34l3r> thx
[04:40] <d34l3r> does it also support CSS/other copy protections of Video DVDs?
[04:41] <Stalwart> d34l3r: afaik dd just make exact copy of copy protection
[04:41] <d34l3r> so it should worke
[04:41] <d34l3r> work*
[04:41] <DaSkreech> Yup
[04:41] <Stalwart> players usually complain about copy-protected iso images i create =P
[04:41] <d34l3r> :-D
[04:42] <megapig> can anyone tell how to change my screen resolution to 1280x800 Widescreen format?
[04:42] <Stalwart> dd is ultimate tool but should be used with care, it can DestroyData for real
[04:42] <HymnToLife> megapig, install proper drivers for your video card
[04:42] <megapig> I don't know where to get the Drivers
[04:42] <Stalwart> megapig: you'll need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, check wiki for details
[04:43] <HymnToLife> Stalwart, yeah, but it's really useful when you actually _want_ to destroy data :p
[04:43] <Stalwart> HymnToLife: =P~
[04:43] <HymnToLife> megapig, what cind of card do you have ?
[04:43] <Stalwart> nvidia i guess
[04:43] <megapig> Intel GMA 900 Fast 3D
[04:43] <HymnToLife> I know folks in Win who use obscure software to destroy data
[04:43] <Stalwart> ah
[04:43] <megapig> Intel 915 actually
[04:43] <HymnToLife> I'm like "wtf ? on a decent OS, one comand will do it"
[04:44] <Stalwart> i know folks who use shareware software to change NIC MAC address
[04:44] <DaSkreech> HymnToLife: I know people who use Windows to destroy data
[04:44] <HymnToLife> !info 915resolution
[04:44] <ubotu> 915resolution: resolution modification tool for Intel graphic chipset. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 14 kB, installed size 128 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)
[04:44] <DaSkreech>  they didn't intend or expect it to do so but whateever
[04:44] <HymnToLife> DaSkreech, WIndows does not destroy data
[04:44] <HymnToLife> it just makes it unreadable :p
[04:44] <Stalwart> vista doesn't install if detects kubuntu on hdd
[04:45] <HymnToLife> I have trouble like that with XP, too
[04:45] <Stalwart> i had to delete kubu from test box at work to get vista on it ;[
[04:45] <Stalwart> xp was installing fine
[04:45] <verzonnen> ubotu: me
[04:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:45] <DaSkreech> !botabuse
[04:45] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[04:45] <Stalwart> in latvian "vista" means "chicken"
[04:46] <verzonnen> DaSkreech: I wanted the url thats all
[04:47] <HymnToLife> verzonnen, you still could have done that in /msg
[04:47] <verzonnen> DaSkreech: I have a problem with the scroll bar disapearing in firefox, checking to see if it was listed
[04:47] <DaSkreech> The horizontal one?
[04:48] <verzonnen> DaSkreech: never tried PM b4
[04:48] <verzonnen> Both
[04:48] <megapig> how do I install the "915resolution"?
[04:48] <Rug> Howdy all
[04:48] <verzonnen> mostly the vertical one that is giving me headaches
[04:48] <HymnToLife> megapig, with apt-get
[04:48] <Stalwart> coooooooool, kde has autoclick feature
[04:49] <HymnToLife> or Synaptic, or Aptitude, or Adept, or KPackage, or wget && dpkg -i...
[04:49] <BrianSteffens> daskreech lol to close frostwire you have to go to options->settings or something and change whether it closes after transfers to immediately, then just close it
[04:49] <HymnToLife> even better
[04:50] <HymnToLife> don't run it at all in the first place :p
[04:50] <megapig> HymnToLife, can you tell me what to type in the Console?
[04:51] <HymnToLife> megapig, sudo apt-get install 915resolution
[04:51] <megapig> thanks
[04:51] <Rug> my mouse and keyboard (both USB) don't work after install (Fresh Edgy installation) so I rebooted (placed PS2 dongles on the keyboard and mouse) and now my mouse isn't working.  (Dmesg detects the PS2 mouse)
[04:52] <DaSkreech> can I force two instances of Kate?
[04:52] <Stalwart> Rug: check bios settings
[04:53] <megapig> Installer the 915resolution. What do I do now to change the resolution?
[04:53] <megapig> Installed*
[04:53] <LeeJunFan> Rug: but X is probably looking in the wrong place for the mouse. perhaps run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:53] <Jucato> DaSkreech: yes. don't launch Kate with the -u (--use) option
[04:53] <Rug> Stalwart: bios is fine, (why else would dmesg detect it.)
[04:53] <Rug> LeeJunFan: ok thanks I'll give that a try
[04:54] <verzonnen> Does any one have a sugestion how to fix the scrollbars in firefox?
[04:54] <Jucato> verzonnen: what do you mean?
[04:55] <HymnToLife> verzonnen, I'm pretty sure there's a module in KControl to fix it
[04:55] <Stalwart> anyone knows where in kubuntu's control panel konqueror preloader is located?
[04:55] <megapig> HymnToLife: I just installed 915resolution, what should I do now to change the screen resolution to 1280x900?
[04:55] <HymnToLife> megapig, dunno, never used it
[04:55] <megapig> 800* >.<
[04:55] <HymnToLife> search the Wiki :)
[04:55] <megapig> :)
[04:55] <Jucato> Stalwart: Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Performance
[04:56] <Stalwart> thanks Jucato
[04:56] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Thanks
[04:57] <Jucato> Stalwart, DaSkreech, np :)
[04:57] <verzonnen> Jucato: my scrollbars disapear on me at times
[04:57] <megapig> HymnToLife, thanks for your help :)
[04:57] <Jucato> verzonnen: are you on Edgy?
[04:58] <verzonnen> Jucato: I am
[04:58] <DaSkreech> Jucato: You realise replacing one letter in that changes the menaing of the question
[04:58] <verzonnen> HymnToLife: I found that "module"
[04:58] <DaSkreech> s/gy/ge/g
[04:59] <Jucato> verzonnen: System Settings -> Appearance -> GTK+ Style and Fonts -> Install scrollbar fix
[05:00] <verzonnen> Jucato: I did find it, did not fix the problem though
[05:01] <DaSkreech> hi intelikey
[05:01] <verzonnen> Jucato: correction it did seem to fix it
[05:01] <verzonnen> HymnToLife and Jucato thanx
[05:02] <DaSkreech> You are joking?
[05:02] <DaSkreech>  We have a button to fix gtk apps?
[05:02] <verzonnen> never thought to look into kde config for a fix for firefox :(
[05:02] <DaSkreech> And they say KDE has too many options
[05:02] <intelikey> DaSkreech
[05:03] <verzonnen> nothing wrong with kde that a button can't fix I guess
[05:03] <intelikey> verzonnen hmmm make it stay out of /root  with a button  :)
[05:04] <DaSkreech> Or a rejigger of your files
[05:04] <Jucato> lol
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[05:04] <Jucato> didn't even have to click a button :)
[05:05] <HymnToLife> KDE rocks :p
[05:06] <goodthing> hmm, anyone happen te remember what that name was of that KDE program which allows one to alt+ctrl the opened windows into thumbnails, so one can choose it?
[05:06] <Jucato> !kompose | goodthing
[05:06] <ubotu> kompose: full screen task manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.3-1.3 (edgy), package size 92 kB, installed size 432 kB
[05:06] <goodthing> yes! we thank Jucato big time :)
[05:06] <Jucato> :O
[05:09] <goodthing> oops, aptitude is unsure about my system settings since i canceled dpkg-reconfigure -a
[05:09] <megapig> HymnToLife, Thank you very much for your help! My screen resolution is set to 1280x800 and works just fine! :D
[05:09] <HymnToLife> nice to know :)
[05:12] <Rug> LeeJunFan: reconfiguring xserver didn't help
[05:12] <DaSkreech> Hi aseigo
[05:12] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Prep that button again
[05:13] <Jucato> wb intelikey
[05:13] <intelikey> RAZ-A-SMAKEN-FRATEN SMAKEN-FRATEN  </yocemite_sam>      is it impossable to make fat16 partitions ......
[05:13] <Kr4t05> intelikey: Er... Why would you want to use fat16?
[05:13] <intelikey> and don't tell me that a partition is not a fs  i know that.
[05:14] <aseigo> DaSkreech: yo
[05:14] <Rug> intelikey: just do it manually with fdisk
[05:14] <intelikey> Kr4t05 putting win95 on a disk
[05:14] <Kr4t05> intelikey: Ah, ok.
[05:14] <HymnToLife> or use GParted if you like nice GUIs
[05:14] <Kr4t05> ^.^
[05:14] <ajf> hello
[05:14] <intelikey> Rug happen to know the max size ?
[05:14] <HymnToLife> !hi [ ajf
[05:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hi [ ajf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:14] <HymnToLife> !hi | ajf
[05:14] <ubotu> ajf: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[05:15] <Rug> Fat16 Max size = 2Gb
[05:15] <HymnToLife> I guess that's enough for Win 95 :p
[05:15] <ajf> i'm looking for a guide to setup intel 945g, i'm using a laptop and i have a crappy res
[05:15] <ibert> !skype
[05:15] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[05:15] <HymnToLife> ajf, use 915resolution
[05:16] <HymnToLife> !info 915resolution
[05:16] <ubotu> 915resolution: resolution modification tool for Intel graphic chipset. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 14 kB, installed size 128 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)
[05:16] <johey> I want Ktorrent to move finished downloads to another directory, but still share it. Is that possible?
[05:16] <intelikey> ummm hmmm and i can't see why it doesn't work....   unless 2g != 2G  ....
[05:16] <ajf> what's that? a driver or app to setup the driver?
[05:16] <HymnToLife> wow
[05:16] <HymnToLife> IS there an Ubuntu kFreeBSD too ?
[05:16] <slow-motion> hallo
[05:16] <Rug> intelikey: don't forget there are many ways to count GigaBytes
[05:16] <HymnToLife> ajf, dunno, I just know it'll let you have correct res
[05:17] <ajf> HymnToLife: cant find that command
[05:17] <ajf> if it's a command
[05:17] <HymnToLife> ajf, install the package
[05:17] <HymnToLife> sudo apt-get install 915resolution
[05:18] <HymnToLife> I can't tell you how to configure it though, search the Wiki
[05:18] <intelikey> rug yeah  i'm shortening it to 2000m maybe it will work now.
[05:19] <verzonnen> 915resolution only works with Intel 800/900 series graphic chipsets.
[05:19] <Rug> intelikey: good idea
[05:19] <HymnToLife> [17:17]  <ajf> i'm looking for a guide to setup intel 945g, i'm using a laptop and i have a crappy res
[05:19] <dsaltos> hallo
[05:19] <Rug> intelikey: MS uses 1024bytes = 1kB
[05:19] <Hawkwind> Kr4t05: Snow plugin ?  Is that something that's just in SVN maybe ?
[05:20] <dsaltos> anyone knows why xgl when i activate XGL with ati drivers 8.28 fonts get small, difficult to read?
[05:21] <ArrAKeeN> iop
[05:21] <sdlnxgk> Time to go play some World of Warcraft before the g/f  gets here.... Have a great day everyone !!!
[05:21] <intelikey> hmmm dosfstools is 147kB unpacked  figure 40k for the docs that's smaller than ms's scandisk.exe was.
[05:22] <Rug> intelikey: =) that'
[05:22] <Rug> is cause linux is better
[05:22] <DaSkreech> aseigo: What's wiki day?
[05:23] <Jucato> DaSkreech: read his blog posts :)
[05:23] <DaSkreech> Oh yeah blogs. I forget about those
[05:23] <intelikey> Rug that and the fact that there is no 'ascii' graphics involved.
[05:23] <darkkish__> >_>
[05:24] <Rug> hehe, I miss ascii....    I used to make ASCII movies on my C64 BBS
[05:24] <Jucato> is there a way to use a mouse in the console (tty)?
[05:25] <hatta> gpm
[05:25] <Jucato> (just wondering, really)
[05:25] <Jucato> +s
[05:25] <hatta> :)
[05:25] <Jucato> thanks :)
[05:26] <Hawkwind> Kr4t05: Pingers!
[05:27] <aseigo> DaSkreech: developer wiki day is when i and a bunch of others work on kde's new developer wiki
[05:28] <intelikey> hehhe this is rediculess  i have a 47m tar.gz file that contains the windows 95 install files plus the installed 95 system    that's like two copies almost  in 47m     why is linux so big.   just to get a console you have to install over 100m  of most distros.
[05:29] <intelikey> it must be all the perl and python that is taking up all the space in the base systems.
[05:32] <koharu> hi all
[05:33] <intelikey> well i guess it worked maybe.  at least this time dosemu could boot it.   but i can't check the fs.
[05:33] <intelikey> C:\>scandisk
[05:33] <intelikey> You cannot check or repair drive C because it is a network drive.
[05:43] <Hawkwind> Kr4t05: You here ?
[05:44] <darkkish_> someone say my name
[05:44] <Jucato> no darkkish_, I won't say your name
[05:44] <Kr4t05> Hawkwind: Yes.
[05:44] <Jucato> !kernel
[05:44] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[05:44] <darkkish_> thanks Jucato
[05:45] <darkkish_> damn how long would it take to compile a kernel?
[05:45] <Hawkwind> Kr4t05: Where are you getting this snow plugin for beryl ?  Is that in SVN ?
[05:45] <Kr4t05> Hawkwind: I think so... *checks*
[05:46] <Hawkwind> darkkish_: I have a script and a how-to that does it in about 45 minutes(depending on your system of course)
[05:46] <intelikey> darkkish_ configuring it all and compiling it takes me about 4~6 hours   but a lot of that is configuring.
[05:46] <darkkish_> lol it took me aobut 10 minutes to compile a custom version of wine on an AMD 3500
[05:46] <Kr4t05> Hawkwind: Yeah... Just use Trevino's SVN build repository. :)
[05:46] <darkkish_> but thats not including configuring
[05:47] <intelikey> darkkish_  and your point is ?
[05:47] <Hawkwind> Kr4t05: Ah ok.  I don't use SVN for it
[05:47] <intelikey> darkkish_ knock a goose egg off that and you'd have this cpu
[05:47] <Jucato> Hawkwind: in lfd?
[05:48] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Huh ?
[05:48] <darkkish_> lol
[05:48] <Jucato> er.. the howto... nvm :)
[05:48] <Jucato> I always lose that link..
[05:48] <Hawkwind> Jucato: It's on the wiki
[05:48] <Jucato> oh yeah... silly me :)
[05:48] <darkkish_> well this cpu that i'm running is only a PIII 750MHz :p
[05:49] <Kr4t05> Hrm... This is what I get for unplugging my system while it was still on. FSCK decided that some of my data was corrupt... :/
[05:51] <intelikey> hmmm it looks a bit odd having two things output to stdout   sox and mc
[05:52] <intelikey> i think i'll stops sox from displaying the running numbers
[06:06] <intelikey> what is   eval   good for ?
[06:07] <DaSkreech> Math
[06:07] <DaSkreech> really really weak math
[06:07] <DaSkreech> and bool stuff
[06:07] <intelikey> hmmmm
[06:07] <intelikey> bool
[06:07] <intelikey> drool
[06:07] <Dr_willis> BoolYa!
[06:08] <tdog> how can i convert .wav to ogg ???
[06:09] <SSJ> tdog:oggenc, I think.
[06:09] <DaSkreech> !oggenc
[06:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oggenc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:09] <DaSkreech> !info oggenc
[06:09] <malik__> a quick question.................is there any benefit of codeweavers crossover office to be installed?........and what can we do with it?
[06:09] <ubotu> Package oggenc does not exist in any distro I know
[06:09] <intelikey> tdog or audacity
[06:09] <tdog> i have two wav file, i want them as sound for my login and log out
[06:10] <tdog> but  i have no idea how to add them to system sounds
[06:10] <tdog> audacity ?? is that part of repository ?
[06:10] <fdoving> tdog: you can use kaudiocreator, with oggenc as encoder engine.
[06:11] <tdog> thanks
[06:11] <tdog> i will look for that program
[06:11] <DaSkreech> tdog: press Alt+Space
[06:11] <DaSkreech> type kaudio
[06:11] <DaSkreech> press enter
[06:11] <DaSkreech> File -> encode file
[06:11] <DaSkreech> Not really great for batch stuff but whatchagonnado?
[06:11] <intelikey> tdog  as to login/logout sounds   see  /etc/kde#/kdm/kdm.conf  for that answer maybe
[06:11] <tdog> thanks
[06:12] <tdog> thanks again
[06:12] <intelikey> there is probably a gui way but i don't know it.
[06:12] <fdoving> tdog: make sure you select 'oggenc' from settings -> configure kaudiocreator -> engines (or whatever it's named the one at the bottom..)
[06:12] <malik__> alt+space bar ........nothin happens
[06:13] <fdoving> malik__: try k -> run command. 'katapult' <enter>, then try alt+space again.
[06:13] <SSJ> malik__:Do you have Katapult running?
[06:13] <karmikaze> hazard_!
[06:13] <DaSkreech> malik__: Alt+F2 -> katapult -> alt+Space
[06:13] <karmikaze> omg i got onto my own network...
[06:13] <karmikaze> i had to turn off the encryption and reboot my machine >_<
[06:13] <malik__> i have katapult installed.........dont know if its running or not
[06:13] <jontec> I have two problems with my amd64 laptop (edgy): The sound does not work (ask me for specifics) and I cannot get the processor speed to increase from 800Mhz when I am trying to us demanding programs like webrick for ruby on rails inside Konsole (I have tried to make KLaptop allow me to change the profiles, but after I tell it to and try... it crashes)
[06:13] <intelikey> tdog     apt-cache show vorbis-tools
[06:13] <karmikaze> anyone else confirm this?? to change wifi network you have to *Reboot*
[06:13] <karmikaze> >_<
[06:14] <tdog> what that dose ?
[06:14] <intelikey> gives you info.
[06:15] <fdoving> tdog: instead of hacking kdm.conf you can set the login/logout sounds in 'system settings -> notifications' find 'KDE system notifications' (or something similar) in the dropdown list.
[06:15] <tdog> thanks ..
[06:16] <tdog> it seems they all running ogg files and not wav.. and this converter just removed my wav file.without converting ..
[06:16] <tdog> need to look for it in trash i guess
[06:16] <malik__> a quick question.................is there any benefit of codeweavers crossover office to be installed?........and what can we do with it?
[06:17] <jontec> Oh and about the sound: a guy here told me to update my alsa driver, but it didn't help
[06:17] <malik__> i mean is there any real benefit for average net surfing linux user?
[06:18] <sredna> Thank you to whoever packaged digikam 0.9 <3
[06:18] <DaSkreech> malik__: You can run IE not sure if that helps
[06:19] <tdog> humm, i can not convert the wav file, it say is not supported format ..
[06:19] <DaSkreech> Is it PCM wav?
[06:20] <malik__> arrrrg i hate IE..........didnt use it when was on windows...........dont want it know since i have found linux
[06:20] <tdog> i think
[06:20] <DaSkreech> malik__: It supposed to be a better wine
[06:20] <DaSkreech> For non games :-)
[06:21] <malik__> crossover office is better wine?
[06:24] <jontec> oh and another thing... my computer's not using the swap partition that I made
[06:26] <fdoving> jontec: for the swap issue, please have a look at https://answers.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+ticket/2488
[06:26] <SSJ> jontec:Ideally, Linux won't touch the swap until you are running low(-ish) on RAM.  How much RAM do you have installed?
[06:27] <fdoving> SSJ: that's not entirely true. linux will swap evern with gigs of free memory.
[06:28] <SSJ> fdoving:Oh? Interesting.  What's the rational behind this, do you know?
[06:28] <ubuntu> hooooy
[06:29] <fdoving> SSJ: http://kerneltrap.org/node/3202
[06:30] <jontec> SSJ, fdoving: I was looking for a way to change it... so I went into system settings and attempted to change the swap which read essentially none and changed it to /dev/hda4. When I tried to enable the swap, it gave me an error. The mount point after the swap was assinged was none. Does this need to be changed? Oh and I'm aware of when it uses swap... I just wanted it on if it needed it... I am using 1GB ram.
[06:30] <jontec> fdoving: just read your last message
[06:30] <fdoving> jontec: the mountpoint for swap partitions should be set to 'none'
[06:31] <SSJ> fdoving:Woah - thanks for the link!
[06:31] <jontec> fodving: okay... then do I need to just commit the changes and restart?
[06:31] <Dr_willis> Hmm   MigrationSERVER uses Kubuntu as a base and includes additional features    http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=03923#0
[06:31] <fdoving> jontec: you don't need to restart. you can use 'sudo swapoff -a' and 'sudo swapon -av' from konsole.
[06:33] <jontec> swapon on /dev/hda4
[06:33] <jontec> swapon: /dev/hda4: Invalid argument
[06:33] <Dr_willis> double chedk with sudo fdisk -l  to verify where the swap partition is.
[06:33] <Dr_willis> and double check your command you typed. ;)
[06:34] <fdoving> jontec: then swap isn't on /dev/hda4.. or something in your /etc/fstab file is wrong. if you read though all comments on the ticket at https://answers.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+ticket/2488 you will find what you need to make it correct.
[06:34] <jontec> fdoving: okay, thanks
[06:37] <ScarFreewill> how do i download something for example dsl via rsync? the only link they give you is rsync ftp.belnet.be::packages/damnsmalllinux/
[06:38] <fdoving> ScarFreewill: use rsync -av --progress ftp.belnet.be::packages/damnsmalllinux/ path/to/download/to/
[06:38] <ScarFreewill> !rsync
[06:38] <ubotu> rsync: fast remote file copy program (like rcp). In component main, is standard. Version 2.6.8-2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 237 kB, installed size 472 kB
[06:39] <jontec> fodving: the simple command at the bottom worked. :D So one of three problems have been resolved.... my sound still isn't here and I'm still running at 800Mhz when running things from Konsole
[06:39] <ScarFreewill> fdoving: will it download that whole folder from the server because i only want a iso
[06:39] <karmikaze> ok
[06:39] <jontec> fdoving: the simple command at the bottom worked. :D So one of three problems have been resolved.... my sound still isn't here and I'm still running at 800Mhz when running things from Konsole
[06:39] <karmikaze> well it just seems that i cant connect to any wifi that has encryption
[06:39] <karmikaze> open networks are fine
[06:40] <fdoving> ScarFreewill: then you can use 'rsync ftp.belnet.be::packages/damnsmalllinux/' to get a list of files you can choose from.
[06:40] <ScarFreewill> fdoving: ok..
[06:40] <B-Minus> how come my openoffice looks ugly as crap
[06:40] <B-Minus> the fonts look insane ugly
[06:40] <B-Minus> i can try whatever i want
[06:40] <karmikaze> heh
[06:41] <fdoving> B-Minus: the menu fonts looks ugly?
[06:42] <B-Minus> fdoving: yes
[06:42] <Fragrag> Damn, the audio notifications on Kopete suddenly stopped working, I checked the Notifications window and it's still checked, any other reason why it's not working?
[06:42] <B-Minus> fdoving: but it seems the normal text fonts are ugly too, uglier than windows office anyhow
[06:43] <DrNickRiviera> i'm running dapper on just moved my installed system from one computer to another which is similar but less powerful
[06:43] <DrNickRiviera> now applications like firefox are using 50-80% cpu on a celeron 2.4ghz
[06:44] <DrNickRiviera> and xorg uses up to 30% on a regular basis
[06:44] <DrNickRiviera> anyone know what the problem might be?
[06:45] <jontec> DrNIckRiviera: (I don't really know... I'm just curious) what was the processing speed (and model like pentium three or M, etc.) on the other computer? and how did you move the things?
[06:46] <fdoving> B-Minus: ok.. anyway a nice tip is to go to some openoffice app -> tools -> options -> openoffice.org -> fonts -> here you can replace the UI font with something else I think the default UI font is 'Andale Sans UI' so if you replace that with like 'Arial' or whatever you want, you might get better results.
[06:46] <DrNickRiviera> had an amd64 3000+
[06:46] <B-Minus> fdoving:  ok thx ill try that
[06:46] <DrNickRiviera> and just swapped the hard drive
[06:46] <jontec> DrNickRiviera: oh... you're using the wrong packages...
[06:46] <fdoving> B-Minus: also. the 'view' section also under openoffice.org in the options box, have some user interface settings you can have a look at.
[06:47] <jontec> you're using amd64 packages on a 32-bit computer
[06:47] <DrNickRiviera> am thinking it might be an issue with the graphics card, as xorg seems to be using a lot of the power
[06:47] <jontec> I think?
[06:47] <DrNickRiviera> no, am running the 32 bit version
[06:47] <DrNickRiviera> calling the processor amd64 might have been a bit misleading ;)
[06:48] <jontec> okay, so was it a 32-bit amd then?
[06:48] <fdoving> bbl.. dinner.
[06:48] <jontec> uh-oh... the guy with the answers is leaving... T_T
[06:48] <DrNickRiviera> well it's capable of 64 bit, but also supports 32
[06:50] <jontec> DrNickRiviera: so did you actually just put the hard drive in the new computer and run Kubuntu? And I think that kubuntu packages support amd64 totally. So if it was capable of 64bit... and it reailized it... it would have downloaded and installed amd64-specific packages. (Am I misunderstanding how your transferred?)
[06:51] <jontec> realized*
[06:51] <lupine_85> jontec: the architecture is determined at install-time
[06:51] <jontec> lupine_85: exactly
[06:52] <intelikey>    Checking for passwordless user accounts... Warning!
[06:52] <intelikey> Found passwordless user account. See logfile for more information
[06:52] <DrNickRiviera> i tried the 64bit packages when i first installed breezy and wasn't very impressed by them, so i decided to got with 32bit for now
[06:53] <DrNickRiviera> and as i have a 32bit install it wont start downloading any 64bit packages
[06:53] <DrNickRiviera> i'm pretty sure that isn't the problem, as i've moved hard drives around like this before
[06:53] <intelikey> i guess that this box is not worth the trubble... :)     or i wasn't a slick in tracing as i thought it was...
[06:53] <jontec> DrNickRiviera: okay, I see. :D (I see it as a really unstable way, but I'm a noob so it doesn't really matter :D )
[06:55] <DrNickRiviera> well, got to go, if anyone comes up with an answer, feel free to send me a message
[06:56] <ScarFreewill> DrNickRiviera: whats the orib?
[06:56] <stamen> hi
[06:56] <ScarFreewill> DrNickRiviera: prob
[06:56] <stamen> how to see which run level use my system
[06:57] <stamen> I want to put one script there
[06:57] <stamen> to be loaded
[06:57] <intelikey> stamen runlevel
[06:57] <ezu5t> is alsaconf removed from kubuntu? What does one run instead?
[06:57] <stamen> and one question for those who use more then one acc. in their PC
[06:58] <stamen> I think I found a bug
[06:58] <intelikey> stamen and ?
[06:58] <stamen> I have two acc. on my PC, and when I log in the partitions are mounted
[06:58] <stamen> and you can see whats there
[06:59] <stamen> but when I log out and log in to the other acc
[06:59] <stamen> all things which are placed in /media are unmounted
[06:59] <stamen> and I have to remount them manualy
[06:59] <stamen> :(
[06:59] <stamen> why
[06:59] <stamen> is there any fix
[07:00] <intelikey> and if you logout and back into the first account how are they ?
[07:00] <stamen> only two
[07:00] <intelikey> ?
[07:00] <stamen> if I go back to the first their is the same thing
[07:00] <Dr_willis> and what are these partitions anyway? NTFS/Fat32?/UsbDrives?
[07:01] <stamen> all is umountes
[07:01] <stamen> all is umounted
[07:01] <stamen> their is 1 fat, the other are ext3
[07:01] <ScarFreewill> stamen: did you use fstab for them
[07:01] <stamen> three of them
[07:01] <Dr_willis> for the ext3, id definiatly say make a fstab entry for them.
[07:01] <stamen> for who, for the acc
[07:02] <ScarFreewill> stamen: to mount the media
[07:02] <intelikey> stamen then it has nothing at all to do with the number of accounts.   the fact that kde isn't able to restart and maintain "automounting" is the problem.
[07:02] <stamen> will the old fstab file solve the problem
[07:02] <Dr_willis> ext3 should be mounted  since the user/owndership/permissions are avilable on it.
[07:02] <stamen> intelikey: so how to make it automount
[07:02] <intelikey> stamen yes fstab will fix it.
[07:03] <stamen> intelikey: the old
[07:03] <stamen> without UUID
[07:03] <intelikey> either way. should
[07:03] <stamen> ok
[07:03] <stamen> I will try
[07:03] <stamen> but tomorrow
[07:03] <stamen> :)
[07:04] <stamen> so runlevel N 2 is rc2.d ?
[07:04] <intelikey> yes
[07:04] <stamen> ok
[07:04] <stamen> 10x to all for now :)
[07:04] <stamen> bye
[07:04] <intelikey> stamen you should   man update-rc.d
[07:04] <snowrichard> hello
[07:04] <stamen> to read it?
[07:04] <intelikey> yes
[07:04] <stamen> ok
[07:05] <intelikey> stamen normally the scripts are put in /etc/init.d/  and update-rc.d is used to activate them in different runlevels.
[07:06] <stamen> ok, I will put it there
[07:06] <ScarFreewill> i used to use init X back in madrake 9.2 how would one switch runlevels in ubuntu?
[07:06] <stamen> the script which I am going to make is for mount this partitions after log in
[07:07] <karmikaze> !pastebin
[07:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:07] <intelikey> stamen in that case   try the fstab first.
[07:07] <intelikey> ScarFreewill why would one switch runlevels ?
[07:07] <stamen> intelikey: ok
[07:07] <intelikey> runlevel 2-5 are all alike by default.
[07:07] <ScarFreewill> intelikey: i don't know to mess around :P
[07:08] <Fragrag> Bah, this is weird, Kopete won't play any sounds, even previewing the soundbits using the Notifications window won't play anything
[07:08] <intelikey> ScarFreewill   sudo init #
[07:08] <Stalwart> Cpu(s):  1.8%us,  0.7%sy,  0.0%ni,  2.0%id,  0.0%wa, 95.5%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
[07:08] <intelikey> as far as i know upstart also uses the init command.
[07:08] <Stalwart> what does hi mean?
[07:09] <ScarFreewill> intelikey: ok just wondering...
[07:11] <igor> nossa
[07:12] <jose> hi, can help me? what is original repositories for kubuntu 6.10?
[07:12] <intelikey> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main restricted universe multiverse
[07:12] <DarkWizdom> ## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch updated software from the network
[07:12] <DarkWizdom> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main restricted universe multiverse
[07:12] <DarkWizdom> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main restricted universe multiverse
[07:12] <DarkWizdom> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-proposed main restricted universe multiverse
[07:12] <DarkWizdom> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-proposed main restricted universe multiverse
[07:12] <DarkWizdom> ops :D
[07:12] <igor> the original i don't now but i have one
[07:13] <igor> this is
[07:13] <jose> ok. thanks
[07:14] <KoolAid2> http://tinyurl.com/yfkm37
[07:14] <igor> i've looking for new themes for my kubuntu
[07:14] <igor> someone can help me?
[07:14] <intelikey> kdelook.org
[07:15] <igor> thenks
[07:15] <Jucato> jose: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Jucato
[07:15] <igor> thanks*
[07:15] <jose> thank u jucato
[07:15] <jose> its so good
[07:16] <igor> algum  brasileiro aqui?
[07:16] <Jucato> hm... which reminds me... I have to move that sources.list somewhere else...
[07:16] <Jucato> !pt
[07:16] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[07:16] <igor> htanks
[07:16] <igor> thanks
[07:18] <igor> someone have installed the squid on ubuntu
[07:18] <igor> ?
[07:18] <intelikey> i hear ya knockin' but ya kaint come in....   :)
[07:18] <nixternal> Stalwart: that line you posted in devel, where did that come from?
[07:18] <intelikey> !squid
[07:18] <ubotu> squid: Internet Object Cache (WWW proxy cache). In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.1-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 576 kB, installed size 1524 kB
[07:19] <igor> someone have configured the squid on ubuntu?
[07:19] <nixternal> i configured squid about 10 years ago on slackware when i had dial-up..i totally forgot about that package
[07:21] <intelikey> well it don't look like i'm gonna catch a fly with vinegar  today.    :)
[07:22] <igor> =D
[07:22] <intelikey> later fellas.
[07:23] <fdoving> igor: for squid help, https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/serverguide/C/squid.html
[07:24] <igor> thanks
[07:24] <fdoving> igor: if you have further question please prepend my nick to the question.
[07:25] <_4strO> yop yop
[07:25] <apokryphos> HymnToLife: no trolling please.
[07:26] <igor> witch command i do to one people only?
[07:26] <HymnToLife> apokryphos, not my fault if you have no sense of humor
[07:26] <igor> to give a message
[07:27] <apokryphos> HymnToLife: when you quit, it's a global message. This is a support channel.
[07:27] <Jucato> igor: /msg <nick>
[07:27] <Jucato> igor: but you need to register you nick first
[07:28] <ccc> igor: /msg <user> <message> - however he meant just typing his name in front of the question here in the channel to hilight him.
[07:28] <PFA> my internet connection is being incredibly slow. i have a dual-boot system and another comp on this router, and both windows and the other comp are fine. all cords are plugged in correctly, and there is no lag on IRC after i have connected, but it takes upwards of ten minutes to connect. can anyone help me?
[07:29] <Fragrag> !octet-stream
[07:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about octet-stream - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:30] <fdoving> PFA: is it slow on for example web surfing too?
[07:30] <PFA> fdoving: very much so
[07:31] <fdoving> PFA: make sure your nameservers are set correctly.
[07:31] <PFA> i don't know what that means :/
[07:31] <Fragrag> Is Ipv6 enabled?
[07:31] <PFA> ...maybe?
[07:31] <PFA> how do i find out?
[07:31] <Fragrag> lemme find out
[07:32] <Fragrag> http://en.opensuse.org/Disable_IPv6_for_Firefox
[07:32] <Fragrag> try that
[07:33] <igor> register
[07:33] <PFA> it doth not load, good sir
[07:33] <igor> register baboo
[07:33] <igor> how cna i register a nick?
[07:33] <PFA> igor: /msg nickserv register baboo ? :)
[07:34] <igor> how can i register a nick?
[07:34] <PFA> igor: /msg nickserv help
[07:35] <Fragrag> What browser are you using PFA?
[07:35] <PFA> Opera
[07:36] <Fragrag> Right, sorry, I use Firefox so I gave you a Firefox specific link
[07:36] <fdoving> PFA: k -> system settings -> network settings -> Network connections -> domain name system -> Administrator mode.
[07:36] <igor> are
[07:36] <igor> are
[07:36] <igor> ar
[07:36] <PFA> is
[07:36] <PFA> is
[07:36] <PFA> is
[07:36] <fdoving> behave please.
[07:37] <Fragrag> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87798
[07:37] <PFA> fdoving: ok
[07:37] <Fragrag> Try that
[07:38] <PFA> ok...
[07:39] <PFA> i dont know why this would suddenly start now though
[07:39] <PFA> ive been using ubuntu for a year and this has never happened before
[07:39] <PFA> ... also, evidently that file does not exist on my computer
[07:40] <Umbriel> hi all, does anybody know how to configure the firewall using firestarter with 2 IPs on the same interface, eth0 and eth0:1? eth0:1 doesn't appear as interface at all
[07:40] <Fragrag> Hm, really? Weird, didn't read your orignal message, sorry. Maybe you possibly went over some kind of bandwith limit imposed by your ISP?
[07:40] <PFA> i doubt it... it's only on Ubuntu, not either of the windows systems i have, plus i think the only limit i have is a 40GB/ month download limit
[07:41] <igor> I obtained to register my nick name
[07:41] <igor> hehe
[07:41] <igor> it's so nice
[07:41] <igor> i'm going bye
[07:44] <Fragrag> Can someone help me, I keep getting this annoying message of getting an error of 'can't find octet-stream'
[07:45] <fdoving> Fragrag: can you be more specific?
[07:45] <gumpppy3> has anyone had any problem connecting to yahoo mail with firefox?
[07:45] <Fragrag> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=133908 this problem
[07:47] <Fragrag> Though I think I pinpointed the problem, happens with Kopete when I recieve a message, Kopete usually plays a sound, that sound is in .ogg format, I tried to play  an .ogg file, I get the same message. Where can I find the file associzations?
[07:49] <Fragrag> I already deleted my octet-stream.desktop but I still get the error
[07:57] <Lam_> how do you list the directory of cdrom0? it mounts correctly and i can see it in my file browser, but i can't seem to do anything within /media/cdrom0 with the terminal
[07:58] <trappist> Lam_: what happens when you try
[07:58] <Lam_> :/media/cdrom0$ ls -al
[07:58] <Lam_> total 8
[07:58] <Lam_> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-11-19 23:23 .
[07:58] <Lam_> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2006-10-25 10:08 ..
[07:59] <__osh__> !ipod
[07:59] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[08:04] <Fragrag> Ok, I think I fixed the problem..
[08:04] <computer> i can't use adept updater, every time i open it it says another adept program is running, close that one first, but i have none other that's open
[08:04] <Fragrag> Did you use konsole beforehand?
[08:04] <hex_st0rm> !adept crash fix
[08:04] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[08:04] <computer> thx hex_st0rm
[08:05] <hex_st0rm> where can i get opera?
[08:05] <hex_st0rm> cant sudo-apt get it
[08:06] <fdoving> opera.com
[08:06] <hex_st0rm> ty
[08:06] <towycc> Fragrag i didn't use konsole before hand, after i restart the first thing i click is adept-updater, also it seems to be calling itself twice everytime i start it, that's prolly what's causing the conflict but i don't know how to solve it lol, i'll try hex_st0rm's method first
[08:07] <hex_st0rm> yeh do sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[08:07] <towycc> cool thx hex_st0rm
[08:07] <towycc> after that i can just click the adept updater icon right
[08:08] <hex_st0rm> yup
[08:08] <hex_st0rm> when i click a button to download anything...kate automatically opens it, how can i fix this?
[08:09] <towycc> o i think u can right click it
[08:09] <towycc> and then save link as
[08:09] <hex_st0rm> i tried that
[08:09] <hex_st0rm> but for some reason it wont let me right click it
[08:09] <towycc> is there a site that i can try on
[08:09] <hex_st0rm> try to download?
[08:09] <towycc> is it just in general
[08:09] <towycc> yeah
[08:09] <hex_st0rm> its just been happening lately
[08:09] <hex_st0rm> http://www.opera.com/download/
[08:09] <hex_st0rm> like that one
[08:10] <hex_st0rm> im trying to get opera and kate opens the program
[08:10] <towycc> cool let me see if i have any luck with it =)
[08:10] <hex_st0rm> k
[08:10] <PFA> i tried all that ipv6 stuff
[08:10] <PFA> it helped not at all
[08:11] <towycc> hex_st0rm i was able to save as "opera_9.10-20061214.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb" just by clicking download button
[08:11] <PFA> actually somehow it is still enabled...
[08:12] <hex_st0rm> it opens it with kate for me
[08:12] <hex_st0rm> idk why
[08:12] <PFA> this is really frustrating :/
[08:13] <towync> i was disconnected for a bit
[08:13] <notech> check the kde associations in kcontrol
[08:13] <towync> hex_st0rm could it be something in firefox preferences was changed
[08:13] <hex_st0rm> im running konq not firefox
[08:13] <towync> hex_st0rm when does it open with kate tho, after u've downloaded opera_9.10-20061214.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb, and tried clicking on it?
[08:13] <hex_st0rm> ill see if firefox works though
[08:14] <hex_st0rm> when i click it, it opens kate
[08:14] <towync> click the download button, or click the downloaded opera_9.10-20061214.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb
[08:14] <hex_st0rm> i did
[08:14] <notech> the .deb must be associated with kate then
[08:14] <hex_st0rm> yeh
[08:14] <towync> so which did u click lol
[08:14] <towync> that brings up kate
[08:15] <hex_st0rm> yeh
[08:15] <hex_st0rm> firefox worked
[08:15] <towync> k
[08:15] <hex_st0rm> but whoa, it downloaded at 2000kb/s
[08:15] <towync> lol
[08:16] <hex_st0rm> im gone
[08:16] <hex_st0rm> later
[08:17] <towync> lates
[08:20] <jontec> anyone here that can help me with my sound problem
[08:20] <jontec> ?
[08:21] <Lynoure> !anyone
[08:21] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:21] <fdoving> !sound
[08:21] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[08:24] <Fragrag> Does anybody have the fix for this problem? Does anybody
[08:24] <Valmarko> how do I enable video streaming  -  Firefox ?
[08:24] <Fragrag> http://www.kde-forum.org/thread.php?threadid=8167 *
[08:27] <fxco> hello, i have a problem with konversation. i disabled my menu bar and i dont know how to enable it now
[08:27] <Valmarko> I cant find mozilla-mplayer. Someone help me?
[08:28] <dergringo> fxco: ctrl+m
[08:28] <fxco> ah, thx a lot
[08:28] <dergringo> fxco: gerne geschehen ;)
[08:29] <fxco> danke :D
[08:29] <Valmarko> What is the graphical text-editor used in kubuntu?
[08:30] <Valmarko> :(
[08:30] <TheDebugger> kate?
[08:30] <fxco> Kate
[08:30] <TheDebugger> kwrite?
[08:30] <Valmarko> TANKS
[08:31] <dergringo> no, this is a game xD
[08:33] <admin__> hi all
[08:34] <juniemoon> hey everyone
[08:34] <juniemoon> I'm converting my mom to kubuntu
[08:35] <juniemoon> quick question: does "easyubuntu" or "automatix" work in kubuntu?
[08:35] <fdoving> !automatix
[08:35] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:35] <fdoving> juniemoon: i wouldn't recommend using either. use the wiki guides they are usually safe.
[08:36] <juniemoon> fdoving, thanks, I'll do everything myself
[08:37] <fdoving> Fragrag: in system settings -> notification you have a 'Player Settings' button. try to have a look at the settings it provides.
[08:37] <fdoving> juniemoon: that's the recommended way.
[08:38] <[Amigo] > Hi PPL! I have a ffmpeg convertor. How to convert *.vob from DVD to smartphone Nokia N72?
[08:40] <bonbonthejon> how can I make a qt program in kubuntu
[08:42] <trappist> bonbonthejon: use kdevelop
[08:42] <bonbonthejon> trappist: I cant figure it out
[08:43] <trappist> bonbonthejon: it's not simple, but there are lots of howtos
[08:43] <trappist> anyone know, what's the git equivalent of 'svn up'?
[08:47] <apecat> how would you people create and modify and manage a default user profile that are to be to copied to several new users? when i just copy the whole ~username including all .files and .directories, some kubuntu specific autostart things in kde (the aren't in ~/.kde/Autostart) break, as in, they ask for ask for su passwords for the user i originally copied from at kde startup.  here are what the processes asking for usernames look like: ...
[08:47] <apecat> ... http://pastebin.ca/289003
[08:47] <apecat> *that is to be copied
[08:47] <trappist> apecat: files in /etc/skel are copied to the home directories of new users
[08:47] <apecat> or hmm, maybe soem way to expert to  "/etc/skel/"
[08:48] <apecat> yeah but how do modify /etc/skel/ in a sane way
[08:48] <trappist> I'm not sure what you're asking - what's sane?
[08:48] <apecat> i mean, if i just copied the modified user profile there, i'd get the same asking for password trouble
[08:49] <bonbonthejon> trappist: do you know what the difference between kdevelop and kdevelop3 is
[08:49] <trappist> bonbonthejon: if you mean packages, kdevelop is probably just a metapackage to grab kdevelop3 and deps
[08:49] <trappist> apecat: asking for password, when?
[08:50] <apecat> at kde startup
[08:50] <apecat> the pastebin entry identifies the processes that are doing so
[08:51] <trappist> apecat: why are things like kmix being run as another user?
[08:51] <apecat> so if i knew what to change where i'd easily avoid it by changing the name of the user to the new value in some weird text file somewhere under ~/.kde
[08:51] <apecat> trappist: well the profile is copied
[08:52] <apecat> from the user kmix is trying to be run as
[08:52] <trappist> apecat: it's probably in a saved session, if that's what you're looking for
[08:52] <jager> hello
[08:52] <apecat> ohh
[08:52] <apecat> thanks, will check that out
[08:52] <jager> i'm running an eggdrop bot from the apt repositories
[08:53] <jager> can i use that with megahal?
[08:53] <jager> or do i have to compile from source?
[09:11] <tomaczec> hi
[09:12] <mankeletor> hi tomaczec
[09:13] <notanothernamepl> ?
[09:15] <mankeletor> if i want to uninstall a linux distro, all that I have to do is format the partition that contains the distro right?
[09:17] <tomaczec> mankeletor: well, the bootloader would still point to that partition. but yes.
[09:18] <mankeletor> k, so kubuntu will be kicked off from my computer lol
[09:19] <tomaczec> mankeletor: remember to remove ot from the grub/lilo menu,,, dunno how this is done under windows/mac.
[09:19] <tomaczec> s/ot/it/
[09:20] <mankeletor> tomaczec: fdisk  -mbr in windows (i guess)
[09:21] <mankeletor> Anyway I dont care cos I use lilo :)
[09:26] <ohmbr> hi, i can't install ethernet card realtek rtl8139d ...
[09:26] <ohmbr> where can i find a driver for it?
[09:27] <coreymon77> ohmbr: what chipset?
[09:27] <ohmbr> coreymon77: sorry.. what is chipset?
[09:28] <mizorta> I am looking for a good manual on making debian packages for ubuntu.
[09:28] <coreymon77> on the box for your network card
[09:28] <coreymon77> actually
[09:29] <coreymon77> can you give me the manufacturer's website for you card ohmbr?
[09:30] <ohmbr> coreymon77: just a second... i'm loking for it...
[09:33] <mizorta> any manual on making deb packages for ubuntu?
[09:33] <ohmbr> coreymon77: http://www.realtek.com.tw/
[09:34] <herve> does anyone have any idea on why when i try to login to X i just get sent back to the login window?
[09:34] <coreymon77> ohmbr: what card do you have?
[09:34] <coreymon77> model number?
[09:35] <ohmbr> rtl8139d
[09:36] <sergiolib> because there is a problem with your session manager, try reinstalling.
[09:36] <herve> how do i reinstall it?
[09:36] <jontec> okay... sound is not working even more now.... kmix is not even reconizing the card nwo
[09:36] <jontec> now*
[09:36] <k3ks> Hi everyone
[09:37] <k3ks> i've got a problem
[09:37] <ohmbr> coreymon77: i thisk the driver is in here http://152.104.125.41/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=6&PFid=6&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false
[09:37] <ohmbr> coreymon77: but i do not know witch to download
[09:37] <k3ks> in a konsole i kannt do the sudo command, he says the password is incorrect
[09:38] <tomaczec> maybe someone enlighted could explain the relation of 'chipset-driver-module' to the rest. i guess this is a major prob for the newcomers.
[09:38] <k3ks> but if i log in with su and the passwort it works
[09:39] <sergiolib> you messed something up, then
[09:39] <k3ks> also gksudo says that my password is incorrect
[09:39] <sergiolib> yeah, try using visudo command in root
[09:40] <sergiolib> there edit that file so you can be accessible to the sudo command
[09:40] <tomaczec> sergiolib: usually, there is no passwd for root in kubuntu. did you know?
[09:40] <coreymon77> im sorry ohmbr
[09:40] <coreymon77> i do not know
[09:41] <sergiolib> tomaczec: yeah, hi messed something up
[09:41] <sergiolib> he*
[09:41] <tomaczec> sergiolib: i mean -> if he messed things up, did he know the root passwd (if ever set?)?
[09:41] <k3ks> and what should i write in this file?
[09:42] <sergiolib> he could set it with the passwd command
[09:43] <k3ks> if set it with the programm vom the administration menue
[09:44] <tomaczec> sergiolib: k3ks answered <- your job to finish :)
[09:44] <sergiolib> wait
[09:46] <tomaczec> to all: why dont you address what you say? it's quite easier to tell apart who talks to whom... for now it all looks a bit messy to me.
[09:47] <ohmbr> coreymon77: tks...
[09:48] <yann__> How to know the installed version of Kubuntu ? A "cat /etc/debian_version" gives only "testing/unstable"
[09:48] <tomaczec> yann__:  uname -a
[09:49] <tomaczec> yann__:  forget! that's the kerbnel
[09:49] <tomaczec> yann__:  forget! that's the kernel
[09:50] <yann__> tomaczec: ;-)
[09:50] <sergiolib> ok
[09:50] <sergiolib> quite noob in IRC
[09:50] <sergiolib> lol ;-D
[09:51] <fdoving> yann__: 'lsb_release -cd'
[09:51] <k3ks> sergiolib: sry
[09:52] <k3ks> sergiolib: i'm not registred so i cant /query
[09:52] <tomaczec> fdoving: thx. did not know.
[09:52] <sergiolib> okok
[09:52] <yann__> fdoving: thx !
[09:52] <bobesponja> hey all
[09:52] <bobesponja> I'm trying to mount my samba partition from my laptop, I can browse though it but I can't write
[09:53] <bobesponja> I did put writable=yes in the share
[09:53] <yann__> Juste found this too : 'cat /etc/lsb-release'
[09:54] <k3ks> sergiolib: also i'm not very good at english, i'm not sure if i understand everything ^^
[09:57] <k3ks> sergiolib: ok bye
[09:57] <mankeletor> bobesponja: great nick :)
[09:58] <dsheedy> hello I am having issues get the nvidia glx drivers to work correctly.  I have rem'd out dir xorg.conf file, made sure the nvidia module is loaded,but when X starts I get nvidia splash screen then lockups
[09:58] <dsheedy> dri not dir
[09:58] <bobesponja> mankeletor: thx, any idea about my samba issue?
[09:59] <dsheedy> the card is an agp geforce fx 5700
[10:00] <mankeletor> bobesponja: I never used samba
[10:01] <Gosteh> Does anyone know how I can increase my volume past what my system thinks is the maximum?
[10:02] <dsheedy> get powered speakers?
[10:03] <jontec> need help: I used the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting tutorial and now my card is not detected by kmix OR the system and sound STILL does not work
[10:03] <eilker> !ro
[10:03] <ubotu> Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro
[10:06] <tomaczec> !lojban
[10:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lojban - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:08] <tomaczec> www.lojban.org ;)
[10:10] <eilker> !uid
[10:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:11] <tomaczec> eilker: well, i tested to see if the bot knows lojban (a lang like romanian is one) ... you tested what?
[10:11] <jontec> can no one help me?
[10:12] <eilker> tomaczec: nope:) in fact, i was looking for ro, in fstab
[10:13] <tomaczec> eilker: in fstab it stands for 'read only'.
[10:13] <mankeletor> jontec: try with alsaconf
[10:13] <Whopper> does anyone know how to set the screen size? i logged in this morning, and its display is bigger
[10:13] <eilker> tomaczec: learnt it:) what about uid gid ?
[10:13] <eilker> user id ?
[10:14] <fdoving> user id, group id.
[10:14] <jontec> mankeletor: alsaconf?
[10:14] <tomaczec> eilker: user and group id.
[10:14] <eilker> umask ?
[10:14] <mankeletor> jontec: yes, the command line alsaconf should work
[10:15] <nuxil> how would i do it to remove all 0 from a file extention.. like file.001 file.002 file.003 to be file.1 file.2 file.3 and so on
[10:15] <tomaczec> eilker: under linux-like systems like (k)ubuntu every user and group got an id.
[10:15] <Daimadoshi> hey all
[10:15] <fdoving> eilker: umask is 'file mode creation mask'
[10:15] <jontec> mankeletor: it wasn't found when I typed it
[10:15] <eilker> umask=007,uid=0,gid=46  why do i have those numbers ? are these spesific numbers ?
[10:16] <tomaczec> eilker: bits
[10:16] <eilker> bits ? sorry what do u mean ?
[10:16] <thecrazylol> hi guys :)
[10:16] <Daimadoshi> I have a question : Is it because my XP partition was NTFS that resizing caused it to be deleted ?
[10:16] <thecrazylol> any german here?
[10:17] <eilker> !de
[10:17] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:17] <eilker> there are:)
[10:17] <mankeletor> jontec: let me find it, im not still using kubuntu
[10:17] <fdoving> eilker: umask=007 says files should have permissions 770 (u=rwx g=rwx a=none) uid=0 means the owner should be root, gid=46 means whatever group 46 is should be the group of the files.
[10:17] <jontec> mankeletor: okay
[10:17] <HymnToLife> Daimadoshi, nope, I resized NTFS partitions countless times without any problem
[10:17] <tomaczec> eilker: no german here! means no discussion in that lang.
[10:18] <Daimadoshi> hum....poop to me then... I just lost all my NTFS partition... :(
[10:18] <HymnToLife> that seems like a good thing to me :)
[10:18] <mankeletor> jontec: what of those packages have you installed? (alsa-utils, alsa-driver, alsa-lib, alsa-oss)
[10:18] <Daimadoshi> i had university documents on that...that's why i'm sad
[10:19] <HymnToLife> that always puzzles me
[10:19] <Daimadoshi> what does ?
[10:19] <HymnToLife> why the hell do people think a hard drive is a safe place too keep important stuff ?
[10:19] <eilker> fdoving: thank you,  starting to understand, but i coulndt find any relation between 007 and 770 ?
[10:19] <fdoving> HymnToLife: they don't crash often enought.
[10:19] <Daimadoshi> oh i have plenty of backups... it just that I was hoping no to have to use them
[10:20] <eilker> tomaczec: no problem friend:)
[10:20] <HymnToLife> fdoving, true, but sometimes they do
[10:20] <jontec> mankeletor: well in Adept... I see only alsa-utils
[10:20] <HymnToLife> eilker, 770 is 777 - 007 methinks
[10:21] <tomaczec> eilker: rights like this -> 421421421 -> rwxrwxrwx
[10:21] <Daimadoshi> HymnToLife: thanks for the info.
[10:21] <Daimadoshi> all: happy holidays !
[10:22] <snowrichard> 770 is the one's complement of 007
[10:22] <mankeletor> jontec: you would get the other alsa packages
[10:22] <fdoving> eilker: it's a like 777 - umask = permissions. example: 777-007=770, and you substract one number at the time, not the total. if the umask was 111 it would be: 777-111=666, for the umask=123, it would be: 777-123=654
[10:22] <fdoving> eilker: '#umask' in konqueror
[10:23] <HymnToLife> !umask
[10:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about umask - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:23] <jontec> mankeletor: I can only download alsa-oss from adept
[10:24] <eilker> now got it, thank you
[10:24] <mankeletor> jontec: what is the total packages that you can get with adept?
[10:25] <mankeletor> *total of packages
[10:25] <eMaX_> HELP
[10:25] <tomaczec> eilker: the umask is just like in my '421421421' example... :)
[10:25] <jontec> mankeletor: its not with apt-get
[10:25] <eMaX_> I was not at my laptop for a couple of hours and suddenly my disk shows 100% usage
[10:25] <jontec> i mean the alsa-lib package is not with apt-get... sorry
[10:26] <eilker> uid=0 means root, what about uid=1 user ?
[10:26] <jontec> mankeletor: 19939 packages
[10:26] <tomaczec> eilker: first user.
[10:26] <june> how hard is it to get 3d acceleration with an integrated intel chip?
[10:27] <eilker> i see,
[10:27] <eilker> thanx to all
[10:27] <SSJ> june:In Kubuntu 6.06, it Just Works
[10:27] <SSJ> june:Or rather, it should ;)
[10:27] <eilker> june: i use it
[10:27] <june> huh, well i haven't tested with glxgears or anything
[10:28] <june> what's the option for glxgears to get the fps?
[10:28] <SSJ> june:glxgears -printfps
[10:28] <eMaX_> du -ks gives the number in? kb or mb or gb
[10:29] <hudsy> hi, I cant install java runtime environement
[10:29] <hudsy> !
[10:29] <june> SSJ: it's not working, nor did --printfps
[10:29] <SSJ> june:Alternatively, glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[10:29] <june> hudsy: you're using adept aren't you?
[10:29] <hudsy> can someone help me??
[10:29] <hudsy> adept??
[10:29] <SSJ> june:^^ Not a joke, believe it or not ;)
[10:29] <tomaczec> eMaX_: man du
[10:29] <eMaX_> I see
[10:29] <eMaX_> now I cannot believe.
[10:29] <hudsy> i dont know whats this
[10:29] <june> hudsy: the package manager?
[10:30] <hudsy> yes
[10:30] <eMaX_> when a file is shown as 6566686274 date filename in ls -la, how much is that in words?
[10:30] <hudsy> how can i installl??
[10:30] <eilker> ls -lah ?
[10:30] <tomaczec> eMaX_: what you gonna say?
[10:30] <june> hudsy: does it freeze when trying to install the sun java runtime?
[10:31] <simone_> ciao
[10:31] <hudsy> i cant install....
[10:31] <hudsy> I download the self extracting
[10:31] <hudsy> but i cant
[10:31] <eMaX_> what I am saying is that beagle filled up all my harddisk with error logs consuming 52 GB in just 5 hours
[10:31] <hudsy> I've read some readme
[10:31] <hudsy> but nothing
[10:31] <eilker> emax: use ls -lh
[10:31] <june> hudsy: that's not how you do things in ubuntu, you go to the kicker menu,  then adept package manager
[10:32] <june> to install things
[10:32] <tomaczec> eMaX_: me, personally, does not use BEagle.
[10:32] <hudsy> and then??
[10:32] <june> !universe > hudsy
[10:32] <eilker> !lightscribe
[10:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lightscribe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:32] <jontec> mankeletor: you still there?
[10:32] <tomaczec> !ubotu
[10:32] <eMaX_> I mean honestly
[10:33] <jontec> !universe | hudsy
[10:33] <ubotu> hudsy: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:33] <eMaX_> I am not exactly amused
[10:33] <june> ubotu should have given you directions for enabling universe and multiverse repositories, do it, then after you've done that, open up a terminal and type sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[10:33] <eilker> fdoving: do i have a chance to have the bot locally ?
[10:33] <eMaX_> ok where is beagle autostarted
[10:33] <mankeletor> jontec: im still here
[10:34] <eMaX_> well beagle crashed when it tried to index my evolution email folder
[10:34] <fdoving> eilker: ubotu? you can browse bots.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:34] <jontec> mankeletor: the packages aren't avaliable for apt-get or Adept
[10:34] <eilker> fdoving: yes
[10:34] <impact> hi everybody
[10:34] <june> SSJ: still not seeing the fps... unfortunately, but it seems smooth enough to assume it's not software
[10:35] <tomaczec> eMaX_: ps -aef | grep beagle -> kill -9
[10:35] <hudsy> and to install java from adept what must I instalL?
[10:35] <SSJ> june:That's odd - try:
[10:35] <jontec> mankeletor: only alsa-utils and alsa-oss.... but I'm not sure that's the problem... why did the instructions suddenly prevent kmix from seeing the card?
[10:35] <mike> jabba huh
[10:35] <SSJ> june:glxinfo | grep direct
[10:35] <eMaX_> well I want to disable it entirely
[10:35] <impact> Does anybody have a DLINK 530T working with (k)ubuntu 6.10?
[10:35] <june> hudsy: enable the universe and multiverse repositories, ubotu should have told you how to
[10:35] <coreymon77> impact: chipset?
[10:35] <june> once you've done that open up a console and type   sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[10:35] <SSJ> june:strings `which glxgears` | grep "^-"
[10:36] <tomaczec> maybe someone enlighted could explain the relation of 'chipset-driver-module' to the rest. i guess this is a major prob for the newcomers.
[10:36] <SSJ> june:gives all arguments glxgears can take.
[10:36] <mankeletor> jontec: try to install the other package of alsa
[10:36] <butchart> hola
[10:36] <butchart> saludos desde mazatlan sinaloa mexicooooo
[10:36] <mankeletor> butchart: hola
[10:36] <eMaX_> oh yes and virtual memory usage just dropped below zero when I killed beagled
[10:36] <june> SSj: heh says it can't find the strings command
[10:36] <SSJ> june:Weird!
[10:37] <eilker> !welcome
[10:37] <ubotu> Welcome to #ubuntu - the Ubuntu support channel.
[10:37] <june> it's alright, i was just interested in installing beryl for fun on my mother's computer (this one) but i probably won't anyways since it's got 6.06 and i don't really wanna upgrade just for a new xorg
[10:37] <jontec> mankeletor: the ones that I can... I have only alsa-utils (which was already installed) and alsa-oss
[10:37] <butchart> aqui hablan puro ingles?
[10:37] <june> !espanol
[10:37] <ArrAKeeN> iop
[10:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about espanol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:37] <jontec> mankeletor: as in they are
[10:37] <june> !spanish
[10:37] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[10:38] <butchart> muchas gracias amigo
[10:38] <butchart> gracias
[10:38] <butchart> byeeee
[10:38] <butchart> ;)
[10:38] <june> np
[10:38] <tomaczec> !es
[10:38] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[10:40] <eilker> !proc
[10:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about proc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:40] <jontec> I can actually understand what ubotu was saying :D obtendran is a verb from obtener and it's conjugated in the future tense... ayuda is help
[10:40] <tomaczec> !el
[10:40] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[10:40] <tomaczec> cool :)
[10:40] <marko> Help please. I launch ktorrent in 6.10 (after recent distro upgrade) and ktorrent launches but opens no window. I want it to open a window so I can work with it. Ideas?
[10:41] <fdoving> marko: does it appear in the systray (lower right corner, by the clock)
[10:41] <SSJ> marko:Is there no systray icon?
[10:41] <SSJ> doh
[10:41] <TheDebugger> marko: You could try to delete de config
[10:41] <thecrazylol> anyone german?
[10:41] <CVirus> !de
[10:41] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:41] <tomaczec> thecrazylol:  #kubuntu-de
[10:42] <marko> TheDebugger: yes, all OK now. Thanks. I'm new to ktorrent, coming from Auz.
[10:43] <tomaczec> marko: aussie?
[10:43] <TheDebugger> good
[10:43] <TheDebugger> Azureus?
[10:43] <rance> Anyone know how to configure sound in kubuntu when a bug in the alsa module is misidentifiying the capabilities of the sound card?
[10:43] <coreymon77> guys
[10:44] <eilker> !alsa
[10:44] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[10:44] <coreymon77> you know how iwconfig is thecommand for wireless
[10:44] <coreymon77> whats the command for wired
[10:44] <impact> ifconfig
[10:44] <coreymon77> okay
[10:45] <coreymon77> so is it the same thing
[10:45] <coreymon77> iwconfig essid [essid]  key [key] 
[10:45] <tomaczec> coreymon77: it's all a file.
[10:45] <coreymon77> i mean
[10:45] <coreymon77> ifconfig [interface]  essid [essid]  key [key] 
[10:45] <coreymon77> that the command?
[10:46] <rance> eiker: sorry but that link just isnt helpful my card is properly identified and the right module is loaded, but it is detected as having capabilities and features not present, (a known alsa bug for the via82xx module
[10:46] <impact> it more like: ifconfig adapter .... gateway etc.
[10:46] <matroblend> Has anyone figured out how to launch pythonCard in Kubuntu
[10:47] <tomaczec> matroblend: more a python prob i guess.
[10:48] <matroblend> k
[10:49] <chupa-chups> #python
[10:49] <gan|y|med> good evening
[10:50] <gan|y|med> i need some help with digikam
[10:50] <tomaczec> chupa-chups: python users/coders should know their channels. not need to target.
[10:50] <tomaczec> s/not/no/
[10:51] <chupa-chups> sorry wrong type
[10:51] <gan|y|med> in dapper i could connect my eos 350d just fine, automatic detection (ptp mode), everything worked fine. in edgy i cannot access the camera in ptp mode at all. auto detection gives normal mode. i can connect and see the pics, but i can't download them. libgphoto2 is installed
[10:51] <gan|y|med> any ideas?
[10:52] <nceterval> So, after a thoroughly botched hoary->edgy upgrade has left my laptop in an unusable state, I have decided to do a fresh Edgy install.  There are a few stopping points that I would like some advice on, though: I have an encrypted /home partition that I'd like to keep and I will be doing the actual installation to the HDD using a different computer, as my laptop cannot boot from removable media.  What special perparations
[10:52] <nceterval>  must I make?
[10:53] <draje> anyone know if kopete syncs the buddylist correctly (just screen names) with the AIM server?
[10:53] <gan|y|med> why doesn't digikam work anymore???
[10:53] <zorglu_> q. anybody succeed to use /dev/random on dapper ? it is way too slow here. has it been fixed in edgy/feisty ?
[10:56] <SSJ> gan|y|med:Maybe try asking in #digikam ... ?
[10:56] <gan|y|med> there is such a channel? thx
[10:57] <rance> I only tried to use /dev/random once, and it ran out of entrophy but an apt-get update from another command line provided the balance, but other than that I didnt notice any slowness
[10:57] <gan|y|med> ok, now digikam crashed
[10:57] <tomaczec> it works... :)
[10:58] <zorglu_> rance: well i code crypto and use it frequently... before i was using fedora 4 and it almost never run out of entropy, with dapper it is ALWAYS blocking
[10:58] <tomaczec> netsplit... not me!
[10:58] <zorglu_> rance: i dont use it for the whole day, and i cant even generate a single key
[10:59] <zorglu_> rance: as it is my compile box, it got plenty of entropy during the day :)
[10:59] <zorglu_> rance: hence me saying something is broken in the ubuntu version of it
[11:00] <tomaczec> zorglu_: sounds serious.
[11:00] <zorglu_> sudo ln -fs /dev/urandom /dev/random  <- my current workaround
[11:00] <tomaczec> zorglu_: reported it to the ubuntu team?
[11:00] <zorglu_> i cant ask my user to do that
[11:01] <zorglu_> tomaczec: well nobody answer me :)
[11:01] <tomaczec> zorglu_: this #is _not_ the 'ubuntu team', so!
[11:01] <rance> zorglu_ that sounds wrong somehow, I agree
[11:01] <gan|y|med> i have a process (digikam) that i cannot kill with kill -9. what can i do???
[11:02] <zorglu_> tomaczec: ?
[11:02] <tomaczec> zorglu_: i mean -> it is not very relevant what you say here. report it to the coders!
[11:02] <zorglu_> tomaczec: and i answered 'nobody answered me'
[11:03] <dsheedy> hello I am having issues get the nvidia glx drivers to work correctly.  I have rem'd out dri xorg.conf file, made sure the nvidia module is loaded,but when X starts I get nvidia splash screen then lockups
[11:03] <tomaczec> zorglu_: tell it to 'ditit' or 'slashdot'.
[11:04] <tomaczec> s/ditit/digit/
[11:04] <Valmarko> Anyone knows how to install video streaming - Firefox?
[11:05] <tomaczec> zorglu_: but... give the codes at least 73hours to react to your mail.
[11:05] <tomaczec> s/codes/coders/
[11:06] <dsheedy> Valmarko:I am not sure about kubuntu, but mplayer and mplayerplug-in will get you what you want, you may need to look into the codecs as some have legal issues.
[11:06] <Valmarko> ok, tanks
[11:10] <fiendskull9> i cant get KDE to use my USB headset
[11:11] <fiendskull9> the volume mixer is detecting it
[11:13] <gan|y|med> it is a very sad day, i have to restart because a buggy programme... restart! i am sad
[11:13] <mongi> hallo
[11:16] <TheDebugger> Pauvre garcon :')
[11:19] <phobiac> I'm trying to get screenkast but it appears that the site they had with packages on it is down, and I'm having issues with compiling from the source. Anyone happen to have the packages?
[11:22] <zorglu_> ALL: i found out my issue with the /dev/random. i had a ssh in my makefile - aka i was draining /dev/random entropy during the whole day. aka my bad, nothing is wrong with dapper /dev/random
[11:25] <phobiac> Hawkwind, are you there?
[11:25] <Zaggynl> Hi, does anyone know how to get k3b burning faster then 2.3x speed?
[11:25] <Zaggynl> I'm using a BenQ DW1650, with udma5 enabled
[11:27] <kevman> Does anyone know  how to change the mapping of laptop playback keys?
[11:29] <CSonicGo> hey guys, when will "Swiftfox" be included in ubuntu? if.. at all?
[11:30] <family> hey. a while back, I accidentaly pressed like Control-Alt-+  and I liked the results(it made everything big and I could move around with the mouse)  I can't remember what exact combination it was though can someone tell me?
[11:33] <Nontitle> yes, you can just do Ctrl+Alt++ or Ctrl+Alt+- and it changes the resolution
[11:33] <CSonicGo> OK, anyone know how to mount a floppy  in kubuntu?
[11:34] <Nontitle> mount /dev/fd0
[11:34] <nuxil> M$ ( Vista  ) == Viruses Intruders Spyware Trojans and Adware  :P
[11:34] <avalon> Can someone please help me find out what /dev/event my USB device is connected to?
[11:35] <CSonicGo> ouch.
[11:36] <Nontitle> chances are it's /dev/sda1
[11:36] <nixternal> anyone in here using Wine?
[11:36] <Nontitle> i use wine from time to time
[11:36] <nixternal> i need to know where it is located in the KMenu, so I don't have to install it to find out
[11:36] <avalon> This isn't a jump drive Nontitle, it's a touchscreen, probably considered by the system as a mouse
[11:36] <Nontitle> oh
[11:37] <Nontitle> well, i have never used a touchscreen so i don't know
[11:37] <nixternal> im writing up some system documentation and I am at that part
[11:37] <Nontitle> USB can pop up in pretty much any event
[11:37] <avalon> Is there a way to see them all so I can take a guess?
[11:37] <Nontitle> i don't think it's in the KMenu, i think you just directly run the EXE file
[11:38] <phobiac> nixternal: There's a directory of installed programs in the Kmenu
[11:38] <nixternal> hmm, i thought before when i looked it, that it was in there
[11:38] <Nontitle> other than opening up /dev in a file manager, probably not
[11:38] <nixternal> phobiac: rock on, thanks
[11:38] <phobiac> nixternal: For me it's right under "utilities"
[11:38] <phobiac> It has the default folder icon.
[11:38] <nixternal> ahh ya, i remember that now
[11:41] <avalon> Hmm.. okay, I've got mouse, mouse0, and ts0
[11:41] <avalon> along with event0, 1, and 2
[11:42] <esaym> hey everyone
[11:42] <esaym> is need a refresher for where the config file is located for the login screen
[11:42] <esaym> the resolution is different on the log in screen vs desktop
[11:43] <Nontitle> is that possible?
[11:43] <avalon> What's that Nontitle?
[11:43] <esaym> was that directed at me?
[11:43] <Nontitle> no, it was directed at avlon
[11:43] <esaym> oh
[11:44] <esaym> well dang :(
[11:44] <avalon> Is having all those devices possible? I don't really know..
[11:44] <Nontitle> i mean yes it was directed at you
[11:44] <Nontitle> sorry i need sleep lol
[11:45] <Nontitle> esaym, i don't think you can do that under X, but you can use Ctrl+Alt++ and Ctrl+Alt+- to change the resolution
[11:46] <esaym> whle at the log in screen?
[11:47] <willy_> Bonsoir
[11:47] <avalon> Hmm.. one other question. I'm about to make a major change in my xorg. I've got a backup, but where can I see the error list if xorg has them?
[11:48] <esaym> this is the problem i am trying to trouble shoot: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=511935
[11:48] <Nontitle> if you fail, it should show the log, and then ask if you want a more detailed version
[11:48] <esaym> does the log in screen come into play at all when shutdown is called?
[11:48] <Nontitle> esaym: it works at both the login screen and the desktop
[11:48] <avalon> I've never been able to see the error file like that? Mine always just dumps me at tty1 and asks me to login.
[11:48] <esaym> oh ok
[11:48] <esaym> didnt know that
[11:49] <phobiac> Alright this is odd. I'm trying to to compile a package from source, and when I do ./configure everything checks out fine until I get to something involving Qt. I get this error: checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[11:50] <Nontitle> you have to install QT 3.2 or over. search for it in synaptic or adept
[11:50] <Nontitle> sorry, the development files for QT 3.2
[11:50] <Nontitle> or over
[11:51] <esaym> ok well i am going to restart
[11:51] <phobiac> That's the odd part, in adept when I attempt to install libqt4-dev I get a BREAK error.
[11:51] <esaym> ok n/m
[11:51] <esaym> bbl
[11:52] <phobiac> It conflicts with qt3-dev-tools
[11:53] <Nontitle> open Konsole and type in sudo apt-get install libqt4-dev hopefully that might work
[11:53] <phobiac> However I can't remove that package, because adept appears to be dependent on it.
[11:53] <Nontitle> lol funny how that works out
[11:53] <Nontitle> you should install synaptic
[11:53] <lotusleaf> Synaptic for the win!
[11:55] <phobiac> Eh, I guess I'll have to do that.
[11:56] <tobre> Hi all!
[11:56] <hudsy> ji
[11:56] <hudsy> hi
[11:56] <Nontitle> hi
[11:57] <tobre> I wonder that can I update my Kubuntu (edgy) to Feisty Herd without problems?
[11:57] <tobre> Fo example lousing data?
[11:57] <tobre> For
[11:58] <fdoving> tobre: don't expect that process to be painless.
[11:58] <phobiac> If you're worried about problems, updating to a in development OS isn't a good idea.
[11:58] <phobiac> an*
[11:58] <fdoving> the current feisty kernel hardlocks my machine when loading the wireless driver module.
[11:58] <tobre> Hmmm
[11:59] <fdoving> I'd stick with edgy. there are no dramatic changes to feisty anyway. yet.
[11:59] <tobre> My edgy is working quite good.
[11:59] <tobre> OK. :)
[12:00] <tobre> Thanks for your suggestions. :)
[12:00] <raquel> hola buenas noches a todos
[12:00] <raquel> espero que paseis felices fiestas
[12:01] <fdoving> !es | raquel
[12:01] <ubotu> raquel: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:01] <raquel> thank you
[12:01] <fdoving> you're welcome :)
[12:02] <Nontitle> I still have dapper
[12:03] <Nontitle> notice how it's [D] apper, [E] dgy, then [F] eisty, [D] [E] [F] 
[12:03] <phobiac> Nontitle: When edgy first came out I changed all my sources.list entries to say edgy instead of dapper, then updated everything.
[12:03] <phobiac> Only afterwards did I learn how incredibly stupid that was. :D
[12:03] <Nontitle> lol
[12:03] <phobiac> Luckily nothing broke.
[12:03] <Nontitle> the only time i did that wsa to install KDE4
[12:04] <birge> hi
[12:05] <matthew_> Nontitle, KDE 4 is out? I thought it was only available for developers...
[12:05] <Nontitle> I'm going to wait until Feisty comes out before i upgrade because Edgy has alrady been out for a while now and if i go to edgy i will just habve to upgrade again.
[12:05] <Nontitle> it is only for developers
[12:05] <Nontitle> but i still like to use it every onec in a while
[12:06] <matthew_> Nontitle, is it semi-complete (can I use it for my DE?)
[12:06] <avalon> What happened with my xorg? Here's the log http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38421/
[12:06] <Nontitle> yep
[12:07] <matthew_> Nontitle, lots of bugs still?
[12:07] <birge> i need some help
[12:08] <Nontitle> avalon: so far it looks like it needs /dev/wacom but it doesn't exist
[12:09] <Nontitle> thats about it
[12:10] <birge> i am a totally newbie, i have just installed kubuntu
[12:10] <DFM> Can someone please point me to the website that will help me determine what wifi adapter's will work with Kubuntu?
[12:10] <avalon> Hmm... I don't need the /dev/wacom since it's for tablet pcs. Is that something put in by default, or did ubuntu detect my touchscreen as a tablet?
[12:10] <birge> how can i add my dvd player?
[12:10] <Nontitle> matthew_: yes, but it's still stable and usable, but it looks just like KDE3 and isn't that much better, it's also recommended to still run stuff on KDE3
[12:10] <Nontitle> avalon: i was just thinking the same thing, that might be it, but if it is, i'm not sure what to do about it
[12:10] <matthew_> Nontitle, yeah...kinda what I thought...so...what do you know about plasma?
[12:11] <Nontitle> the new desktop thingy?
[12:11] <avalon> Hmm.. well if it just put it there as default, I'll delete its references, but I'll work with it some more if it's actually an attempt at detection
[12:12] <yamal> avalon: ubuntu adds these to all xorg configurations, even when most people dont have that hardware
[12:12] <Nontitle> yeah, there are also quite alot of other "projects" that are going to help KDE4 in the future
[12:12] <avalon> Well.. in that case goodbye wacom.. and let me see if it likes my touchscreen now :)
[12:12] <yamal> avalon: safe to remove, but be sure to get rid of every reference in that case or xorg won't start
[12:13] <phobiac> Ahhhh yes
[12:13] <Nontitle> . (**) stylus: always reports core events
[12:13] <Nontitle> 770. (**) stylus device is /dev/wacom
[12:13] <Nontitle> 771. (**) stylus is in absolute mode
[12:13] <Nontitle> 772. (**) stylus: forcing TabletPC ISD V4 protocol
[12:13] <phobiac> All I had to do was downgrade a package.
[12:14] <Nontitle> 777. (**) cursor: always reports core events
[12:14] <Nontitle> 778. (**) cursor device is /dev/wacom
[12:14] <Nontitle> 779. (**) cursor is in relative mode
[12:14] <Nontitle> 780. (**) cursor: forcing TabletPC ISD V4 protocol
[12:14] <Nontitle> that's what i took from your xorg configuration
[12:14] <avalon> So.. it's getting confused and trying to load stuff for a tablet that I don't have
[12:14] <Nontitle> yeah