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=== Topic for #ubuntu-doc: Ubuntu Documentation Team http://doc.ubuntu.com or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam | backlog at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs | SVN - https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos | Please observe the Ubuntu CoC @ http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct | Next meeting: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/MeetingAgenda | Ubuntu's docs in dead-tree format: http://www.lulu.com/ubuntu-doc
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-ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- [#ubuntu-server] Ubuntu Server Discussions (development and support)01:50
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=== Topic for #ubuntu-doc: Ubuntu Documentation Team http://doc.ubuntu.com or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam | backlog at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs | SVN - https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos | Please observe the Ubuntu CoC @ http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct | Next meeting: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/MeetingAgenda | Ubuntu's docs in dead-tree format: http://www.lulu.com/ubuntu-doc
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nixternalok, have i totally forgotten my xml or what. i want to create a link in kubuntu/C/games/games.xml to ../add-applications/add-applications.xml (kubuntu05:06
nixternalerr05:06
nixternalkubuntu/C/add-applications/add-applications.xml05:06
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mdkenixternal: you can use <link> or <ulink>09:35
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nixternalmdke: ok i will change that, i gave olink a shot, <ulink url="../add-applications/add-applications.xml">blah</ulink> is good then09:45
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mptI never thought that getting involved with Ubuntu would teach me about Hebrew grammar10:31
Madpilotthe surprising benefits of open-source projects ;)10:33
Madpilothow did Hebrew grammar come up?10:33
mptbug 4750410:34
UbugtuMalone bug 47504 in ubuntu-doc "Gender conventions notice in documents" [Medium,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/4750410:34
Madpilotah, that one. I've been letting the bug emails go past unread - hadn't realized it concerned Hebrew specifically10:37
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jendanixternal: I read the email - it's a tough position we're in. I'm too tired to think about what to do next, I'll respond later.12:57
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UbugtuNew bug: #76886 in ubuntu-docs (main) "Software Sources" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7688606:10
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mdkeevening all08:52
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jjessehello nnonix09:53
jjessement this one hello nixternal09:53
jjesse:009:53
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Burgworkmdke: do you have a quick moment to talk about the website?10:42
nixternalhiya jjesse!10:45
nixternalhiya Burgwork10:45
Burgworkhey nixternal10:45
mdkeBurgwork: go ahead10:52
mdkenixternal: can you give me the link to your khelpcenter mockup pls?10:57
nixternalhttp://blog.nixternal.com/stuff/doc/ktbh10:57
mdkethanks10:58
nixternalno problemo10:58
Burgworkmdke: have you got a good idea of what you are looking for in the new stuff?11:15
mdkeBurgwork: which new stuff?11:16
Burgworkthe joomla and drupal tests11:16
mdkeoh, no. I didn't bother because I spoke to newz yesterday and he said that he would be deciding today11:17
mdkeBurgwork: he said Joomla was a shoe-in11:17
Burgworkright11:27
mdkempt: here?11:33
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mdkehttp://mdke.org/tmp/yelp.png11:40
bdmurraylooks nice11:42
mdkebdmurray: any ideas about how you'd like it to look, what info you'd include?11:44
bdmurraynothing brilliant at the moment11:49
bdmurrayThe OpenOffice information seems a bit thin.11:54
bdmurraymdke?11:56
mdkeyeah, it is12:00
mdkeopenoffice has its own docs, I wonder if we can link to them12:01
mdkelooks like the man pages are in yelp, but that's about it. Suck!12:02
bdmurrayI was just thinking about adding more about compatability with MS Office.  If you get a Word doc you can open it with OO12:02
mptmdke, yes12:03
mdkethat would fit well in the New to Ubuntu/Windows section that we hope to get12:03
bdmurraymaybe a mention that OO is cross platform too so Ubuntu users could get Windows users to install it12:04
mdkempt: I'm playing with the yelp frontpage. Got any thoughts on what to do with it?12:04
mptyep12:04
mptI could draw a picture12:04
mdkempt: lemme just upload the latest screenshot I have12:04
mdkempt: http://mdke.org/tmp/yelp.png12:05
mptcool12:06
mptHow are you achieving that?12:06
mptIs it HTML?12:06
mdkeI think perhaps we can nuke the "contributing" and "getting more help" in favour of a short section in the right hand column12:06
mdkempt: yes, it's dead easy12:06
mdkeI'll do a couple of patches12:07
mdkeonce we have a good scheme sorted out12:08
mdkethe right hand column is all hard coded as html12:09
mdkempt: any immediate thoughts? I might just get this uploaded as it is so more people can give feedback.12:12
mptWell, the main issue I think is that it's too much12:12
mdkeon the left? or everywhere?12:13
mpteverywhere12:13
mdkego ahead12:13
mptI think the default window should be about half that width12:13
mptand maybe 2/3 that height12:13
mdkewhat's a default window?12:13
mptso that it can go alongside what people are trying to do12:13
mptthe default Yelp window size, I mean12:13
mdkealright, what would you propose?12:14
mpt* drop the category descriptions12:15
mpt* say "Ubuntu Help" only once, not three times :-)12:15
mdkeno one reads window titles, though.12:16
mdkemaybe twice is enough12:16
mpthmm, true12:16
mptyeah12:16
mptthat "some kind of introduction" can be one sentence12:16
mptsomething like "Enter keywords in the search field, or click a category on the left."12:17

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