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[05:06] <nixternal> ok, have i totally forgotten my xml or what. i want to create a link in kubuntu/C/games/games.xml to ../add-applications/add-applications.xml (kubuntu
[05:06] <nixternal> err
[05:06] <nixternal> kubuntu/C/add-applications/add-applications.xml
[09:35] <mdke> nixternal: you can use <link> or <ulink>
[09:45] <nixternal> mdke: ok i will change that, i gave olink a shot, <ulink url="../add-applications/add-applications.xml">blah</ulink> is good then
[10:31] <mpt> I never thought that getting involved with Ubuntu would teach me about Hebrew grammar
[10:33] <Madpilot> the surprising benefits of open-source projects ;)
[10:33] <Madpilot> how did Hebrew grammar come up?
[10:34] <mpt> bug 47504
[10:34] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 47504 in ubuntu-doc "Gender conventions notice in documents" [Medium,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/47504
[10:37] <Madpilot> ah, that one. I've been letting the bug emails go past unread - hadn't realized it concerned Hebrew specifically
[12:57] <jenda> nixternal: I read the email - it's a tough position we're in. I'm too tired to think about what to do next, I'll respond later.
[06:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #76886 in ubuntu-docs (main) "Software Sources" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/76886
[08:52] <mdke> evening all
[09:53] <jjesse> hello nnonix
[09:53] <jjesse> ment this one hello nixternal
[09:53] <jjesse> :0
[10:42] <Burgwork> mdke: do you have a quick moment to talk about the website?
[10:45] <nixternal> hiya jjesse!
[10:45] <nixternal> hiya Burgwork
[10:45] <Burgwork> hey nixternal
[10:52] <mdke> Burgwork: go ahead
[10:57] <mdke> nixternal: can you give me the link to your khelpcenter mockup pls?
[10:57] <nixternal> http://blog.nixternal.com/stuff/doc/ktbh
[10:58] <mdke> thanks
[10:58] <nixternal> no problemo
[11:15] <Burgwork> mdke: have you got a good idea of what you are looking for in the new stuff?
[11:16] <mdke> Burgwork: which new stuff?
[11:16] <Burgwork> the joomla and drupal tests
[11:17] <mdke> oh, no. I didn't bother because I spoke to newz yesterday and he said that he would be deciding today
[11:17] <mdke> Burgwork: he said Joomla was a shoe-in
[11:27] <Burgwork> right
[11:33] <mdke> mpt: here?
[11:40] <mdke> http://mdke.org/tmp/yelp.png
[11:42] <bdmurray> looks nice
[11:44] <mdke> bdmurray: any ideas about how you'd like it to look, what info you'd include?
[11:49] <bdmurray> nothing brilliant at the moment
[11:54] <bdmurray> The OpenOffice information seems a bit thin.
[11:56] <bdmurray> mdke?
[12:00] <mdke> yeah, it is
[12:01] <mdke> openoffice has its own docs, I wonder if we can link to them
[12:02] <mdke> looks like the man pages are in yelp, but that's about it. Suck!
[12:02] <bdmurray> I was just thinking about adding more about compatability with MS Office.  If you get a Word doc you can open it with OO
[12:03] <mpt> mdke, yes
[12:03] <mdke> that would fit well in the New to Ubuntu/Windows section that we hope to get
[12:04] <bdmurray> maybe a mention that OO is cross platform too so Ubuntu users could get Windows users to install it
[12:04] <mdke> mpt: I'm playing with the yelp frontpage. Got any thoughts on what to do with it?
[12:04] <mpt> yep
[12:04] <mpt> I could draw a picture
[12:04] <mdke> mpt: lemme just upload the latest screenshot I have
[12:05] <mdke> mpt: http://mdke.org/tmp/yelp.png
[12:06] <mpt> cool
[12:06] <mpt> How are you achieving that?
[12:06] <mpt> Is it HTML?
[12:06] <mdke> I think perhaps we can nuke the "contributing" and "getting more help" in favour of a short section in the right hand column
[12:06] <mdke> mpt: yes, it's dead easy
[12:07] <mdke> I'll do a couple of patches
[12:08] <mdke> once we have a good scheme sorted out
[12:09] <mdke> the right hand column is all hard coded as html
[12:12] <mdke> mpt: any immediate thoughts? I might just get this uploaded as it is so more people can give feedback.
[12:12] <mpt> Well, the main issue I think is that it's too much
[12:13] <mdke> on the left? or everywhere?
[12:13] <mpt> everywhere
[12:13] <mdke> go ahead
[12:13] <mpt> I think the default window should be about half that width
[12:13] <mpt> and maybe 2/3 that height
[12:13] <mdke> what's a default window?
[12:13] <mpt> so that it can go alongside what people are trying to do
[12:13] <mpt> the default Yelp window size, I mean
[12:14] <mdke> alright, what would you propose?
[12:15] <mpt> * drop the category descriptions
[12:15] <mpt> * say "Ubuntu Help" only once, not three times :-)
[12:16] <mdke> no one reads window titles, though.
[12:16] <mdke> maybe twice is enough
[12:16] <mpt> hmm, true
[12:16] <mpt> yeah
[12:16] <mpt> that "some kind of introduction" can be one sentence
[12:17] <mpt> something like "Enter keywords in the search field, or click a category on the left."