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[01:52] Yup [01:52] sistpoty: ok... erm... now there is a broken qpsmtpd package in dapper and edgy... probably broke in fiesty too now... what do I do about these different versions etc.? [01:53] sistpoty: create separate diffs for all of them? [01:53] enyc: first get the fix into feisty ;) [01:53] sistpoty: errr hrrm ive never done this before etc. [01:53] enyc: then you'd might want to fix edgy then dapper via a sru (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/SRU for details= === somerville32 hugs Fujitsu [01:54] enyc: I guess we can help ;) [01:54] enyc: are you on feisty already? [01:55] sistpoty: no [01:55] sistpoty: have acces to dapper and edgy machines [01:55] Don't you guys just love it when you try to ssh into a box when it's ip address has changed? haha [01:55] "IT IS POSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE IS DOING SOMETHING NASTY!" === somerville32 gasps. [01:56] Heheh. [01:56] enyc: hm... being on feisty helps a little bit... but otherwise you can get the sourcepackage from packages.ubuntu.com/src: === Fujitsu complains about unreliable ServerPronto servers. [01:56] enyc: just use dget on the .dsc [01:56] (link) [01:56] sistpoty: I can download the 3 files for the feisty source... [01:56] ?dget? [01:57] enyc: same as wget, but it will fetch the three files if you stuff it with a link to a .dsc file [01:57] Ugh oh. :/ [01:57] enyc: package devscripts has it [01:57] sistpoty: which breaks on LP, incidently [01:58] imbrandon, ping [01:58] sistpoty: hrrm how do i install dget on edgy? [01:58] Hobbsee: yes, librarians fault [01:58] somerville32: what were you wanting? [01:58] enyc: apt-get install devscripts [01:58] Hobbsee, I can't login :( [01:58] maybe someone is doing something nasty? :P [01:59] somerville32: what syntax are you using to log in, and did you fix the ip changed address? [01:59] Hobbsee, I removed the offending key on line 13! :D [01:59] And the syntax is: [01:59] ssh federation.imbrandon.com [01:59] of .ssh/known_hosts presumably [02:00] you need to use ssh username@federation.imbrandon.com [02:00] My username is the same as local, I think [02:00] as your username on your home system is often different to the username on his machine [02:00] just try it, anyway [02:00] Well.. then I don't know what my username is, haha [02:00] Hobbsee, can you find me and see? [02:00] *finger [02:00] trying [02:00] imbrandon: ping? [02:01] oh, he's changed the passwords with the new machine [02:01] Oh :/ === somerville32 sighs. [02:01] and it's always random each time, so i couldnt guess what it is [02:02] I guess I'll just have to do things locally === somerville32 pushes the Turbo button. [02:03] sistpoty: right I have the fiesty source 3-files [02:03] somerville32: where are you? [02:04] sistpoty: that has _not_ extracted them like "apt-get source" does.... [02:04] Lathiat: was offering shells on his machine - you may want to ask him for one. he's in perth [02:04] enyc: now run dpkg-source -x *dsc, which will unpack the source package [02:04] Hobbsee, Canada. [02:04] hrm [02:05] sistpoty: this has been done [02:05] sistpoty: interestingly it mumbeles about signatute (using edgy machine) [02:05] strange... [02:06] because you dont have the public key of whoever uploaded it? [02:06] shouldn't be signed at all actually [02:06] well, it is when uploading [02:06] enyc: now change into the dir, and add a new changelog entry. you can use "dch -i" for it [02:07] sistpoty: well thats why it mumbles... because its not signed [02:07] enyc: well, ignore that ;) [02:07] sistpoty: the .dsc is signed [02:08] geser: nice, indeed [02:08] Hobbsee, Do you do mentorships? [02:08] somerville32: mentorships? === Hobbsee wonders if we can change where our email addresses point to [02:08] Hobbsee, Oui. [02:09] somerville32: i dont understand what they are - as in, mentoring for packaging or something? [02:09] Hobbsee, which email addresses? [02:09] * Create /var/run/qpsmtpd in init script [02:09] (Ubuntu bug 72602) [02:09] Hobbsee, Yeah and sponsoring and stuff [02:09] Hobbsee, I want to fast-track to becoming a dev :) [02:09] Fujitsu: the @ubuntu.com and @kubuntu.org [02:10] enyc: also see if the distribution is still unstable, and if so change it to feisty [02:10] somerville32: sort of. people here will answer most questions [02:10] Hobbsee, I believe you change your primary LP email, and wait for it to be synced. [02:10] somerville32: and ubuntu-universe-sponsors is good to subscribe for uploading it [02:10] Fujitsu: ahh, okay [02:10] (or request that it be synced) [02:10] Hobbsee, Yeah, but I want someone I can bug regularly ;p [02:11] somerville32: the people here are regular [02:12] enyc: also the version should have an -XubuntuY suffix, so you should change it to 0.32-4ubuntu1 [02:12] sistpoty: debian/qpsmtpd.init seemingly I need to change.... [02:12] enyc: I was still with the changelog ;) === somerville32 tickles Hobbsee [02:12] qpsmtpd (0.32-4ubuntu0) feisty; urgency=low [02:12] ? [02:12] yes sorry [02:12] nano debian/changelog now [02:13] enyc: great! [02:13] sistpoty: but you suggested -ubuntu1 I wanted -ubuntu0 ;-) erm.. does it matter ? === Hobbsee tickles somerville32 back [02:13] sistpoty: also should there be o - there [02:13] enyc: ubuntu1 is better ;) [02:14] ?? [02:14] hrrm well this looks okay to me! [02:14] enyc: 0.32-4ubuntu1 [02:14] 0.32-4ubuntu1 is the correct versioning scheme. [02:14] enyc: you wont get it through the reviewers [02:14] ok i see [02:15] enyc: 0.32-4 is the old debian version, now we append ubuntu (because it's for ubuntu) and an ubuntu version starting with 1 === enyc wonders whever qpsmtpd (0.32-4ubuntu0) feisty; urgency=low [02:15] eree [02:15] error [02:15] enyc: so if a newer debian version comes in, that would be 0.32-5 and be higher than the ubuntu version === enyc wonders why people get muddles with fiesty vs feisty ;-) [02:15] hehe [02:16] sistpoty: yes I understand... used to seeing these things [02:16] good [02:16] I see that dch debdiff dget are all part of "devscripts" [02:16] Should I use my @ubuntu.com e-mail address now that I have one? [02:16] somerville32: yeah [02:16] enyc: yes... developers are lazy ;) [02:16] somerville32: a) makes you look official, and b) gets filtered less [02:17] Hobbsee: That'll mean I have to setup a gpg sig and everything though, haha [02:17] :D [02:17] sistpoty: Indeed. [02:17] somerville32: you need to anyway, for packaging === somerville32 nods. [02:17] I have one for my gmail account [02:17] btw.: Hobbsee: cool revu trick, if you look at one detail page and are not logged in: just open a new tab and login there, and then reload the old tab [02:18] yep :) [02:18] i've been using that :) [02:18] so am I ;) [02:18] I would use my ubuntu.com one, but the script creating them is buggy, so I use my ubuntu.{org,com}.au instead :) [02:18] sistpoty: it'd be more helpful if i could just login on the same page. or if it would actually keep my login, if the IP is the same [02:18] Whats a good gui front-end for gpg? [02:18] somerville32, seahorse, but don't use a GUI. [02:19] lol [02:19] Hobbsee: it would indeed, and revu2 can do that (but it can do pretty much only do login and not much else) [02:19] Hobbsee: I'm just tooooo lazy ;) [02:20] sistpoty: ahh, fair enough. get coding then :P [02:20] hehe [02:20] Hobbsee! [02:20] hey ajmitch! [02:21] sistpoty: anyway im just reading the init script carefully.... [02:21] Should I have my irc nick in the comment field? [02:22] ie. Cody A.W. Somerville (somerville32) [02:23] sistpoty: so far as I can tell I only need an entry in qpsmtpd_start() ... im not sure what i the best most "neat" mway to do this... I definitely want to do the mkdir whatnot afeter any "bail-out" [02:24] sistpoty: I can use a if ! -d whatnot to only do the mkdir if the dir does not exist... [02:24] somerville32: if you like. i did [02:24] sistpoty: also there is not environment variable for the /var/run location... not that there neend to be... [02:24] somerville32: just because i dont tend to use my real name her [02:24] e [02:25] enyc: ok, it gets a little bit more tricky first, since the package uses a patch system (dpatch) [02:25] enyc: so before you certainly want to create a nice patch === Hobbsee breakfasts [02:25] enyc: please install dpatch === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:26] sistpoty: err... ok installing dpatch === somerville32 pants as he tries to generate enough entropy to generate his new keys. [02:27] edgy/main dpatch 2.0.20 installed [02:27] somerville32, don't you already have a key!? [02:27] enyc: and then in the top source dir, use dpatch-edit-patch (where patchname should be s.th. to match what you are modifying, e.g. fix-init-script) [02:27] Fujitsu, Making one for my new e-mail [02:27] Am I... not suppose to do that? [02:27] enyc: it should go along the names you can find in debian/patches directory [02:28] somerville32, silly you... Just create a new ID on the existing one :) [02:28] Doh! [02:28] Fujitsu, syntax? [02:28] sistpoty: I see .. doing it this way means the patch will likely be applyable to other versions.... [02:29] sistpoty: rather than just creating a debdiff which only applies to the fiesty version by changing it directly [02:29] sistpoty: ? [02:29] somerville32, gpg --edit-key [your key ID here] [02:29] Then adduid [02:29] enyc: kind of... you'll end up with a separate patch in debian/patches, that could be applied to different versions [02:30] enyc: but that patch will then end up in the debdiff [02:30] sistpoty: hrrm what is a "s.th."? [02:30] Fujitsu, So I should now have: [02:30] [ultimate] (1) Cody A.W. Somerville (somerville32) [02:30] [ unknown] (2). Cody A.W. Somerville [02:30] right? [02:30] :D [02:31] enyc: s.th=something, where did I write this? [02:31] enyc, that confused me originally. `Something', I believe. [02:31] somerville32, correct. [02:31] Fujitsu, Do I need to re upload to lp? [02:31] "dpatch-edit-patch init-creates-var-run-qpsmtpd" [02:31] enyc: sounds sane [02:32] somerville32, gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --send-keys [your key id] will do it, yes. [02:32] sistpoty: above -- [...] " (where patchname should be s.th. to match what"[...] [02:32] enyc: well, I'm tired and no native speaker ;) [02:32] You don't need to tell LP about they key again though, just upload it to the server. === Simon80 [n=Simon80@bas6-toronto63-1096715533.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:33] enyc: I'd add the mkdir command directly above the start-stop-daemon call in start to the init-script [02:34] sistpoty: indeeed... [02:34] enyc: and I guess you'll want mkdir -p [02:34] sistpoty: now I either use a if -d stanza whatnot or mkdir -p method... [02:34] enyc: mkdir -p is shorter ;) [02:34] <- lazy as hell [02:35] Hobbsee: ping [02:37] sistpoty: ok.. reading some other init scripts... some check with if ! -d ... some mkdir -p lol [02:38] sistpoty: theres 3 commands actually to create the same permissions as the package installs [02:39] enyc: many ways lead to rom ;) [02:39] +e [02:39] sistpoty: debian/patches/init-creates-var-run-qpsmtpd.dpatch created [02:40] enyc: good, add this one to debian/patches/00list [02:40] sistpoty: however [02:40] sistpoty: I may have done somethin silly... [02:40] enyc: 00list just determines the order in which the patches are applied [02:41] enyc: if these don't overlap, you can use any order [02:41] sistpoty: I have done "chown qpsmtpd:qpsmtpd" on the dir... but there is a RUNAS user mentiond [02:41] sistpoty: maybe I sohuld be chown $RUNAS:$RUNAS incase somebody changes the $RUNAS ? [02:42] enyc: sounds sane... you can use dpatch-edit-patch again to reedit the present patch [02:42] how many times did the word patch appear in my last msg? *g* [02:44] Question: If I don't compile my python code, can I just manually set a python dependency or do I have to use dh-py* scripts and the {python:Depends} thinger? [02:44] chown $RUNAS:$RUNAS /var/run/qpsmtpd [02:44] hrrm [02:44] i wonder if is safe to assume a group exists in the same name as the RUNAS user? [02:45] the debian package installs /var/run/qpsmtpd user qpsmtpd group qpsmtpd mode 2755 === zul [n=bob@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:45] merges go under wishlist importance? [02:46] hrrm setgid dir! === somerville32 pokes Hobbsee [02:46] wonder why they make it setgid [02:46] ... is not writable by group anyway! === rexbron [n=rexbron@CPE001310b2d1d1-CM0012256e816a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:47] theCore: heya! [02:47] Hobbsee: If I don't compile my python code, can I just manually set a python dependency or do I have to use dh-py* scripts and the {python:Depends} thinger? [02:48] Hobbsee needs a good poke of the pointy stick of doom === Hobbsee attacks zul with her Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [02:48] its Hobbsee! :D [02:48] heh [02:48] haha [02:48] somerville32: better to follow python policy, ie the latter [02:48] sistpoty: see above ;-).. im a little puzziled [02:48] that funniest part is the trademarked trademark [02:48] Hobbsee, I can't get it to work though :( [02:48] Hobbsee, I'll try again and then I'll get your help === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:49] sistpoty: i hae no idea why the debian package makes /var/run/qpsmtpd setgid but not group-writable [02:49] enyc: I guess it's setgid in case new subdirs are created === fowlduck [n=duck@68-190-90-101.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:49] enyc: but no real idea atm. [02:49] sistpoty: in combination with the problem that if somebody then changes RUNAS for some reasen... the script now relies on there being a group in the same name as that user [02:50] Heya gang [02:50] hi bddebian [02:50] somerville32: okay [02:50] Heya sistpoty [02:50] Hobbsee, Can you think of a python package that doesn't compile that I can use as an example? [02:50] Morning, bddebian. [02:51] Heya Fujitsu [02:51] somerville32: supybot maybe? anything written in python [02:51] hello bddebian [02:51] Hobbsee: I got supertux! [02:51] Heya joejaxx [02:51] enyc: init-scripts aren't meant to work as is. if s.o. edits the script one can assume that he/she knows what to do [02:51] python doesnt compile as such, does it? like, pre-runtime [02:51] bddebian: :) [02:51] theCore: yay! how stable is it? [02:51] sistpoty: in any case I now have ok [02:51] sistpoty: ok [02:51] bddebian: my merge bug/debdiff status was changed :D [02:51] Hobbsee: it's pretty stable [02:52] sistpoty: in any case I now have the patch I want ... looking into the 00list thing [02:52] Hobbsee, It can be compiled into .pyc [02:52] somerville32, or .pyo [02:52] Right [02:52] joejaxx: To what? [02:52] Hobbsee: at least, it didn't crash [02:52] enyc: 00list is pretty much self-explanatory ;) [02:52] theCore: yay :) [02:52] Hobbsee: would you like to review the package? [02:52] theCore: sure :) [02:52] bddebian: status: fix commited :) [02:53] Hobbsee: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3849 [02:53] joejaxx: Ah, nice [02:53] sistpoty: yes... niterseting how some files atre .patch -- some files are .dpatch -- some files are .patch.dpatch [02:53] bddebian: i should do more [02:53] sistpoty: anyway added mine to bottom of list [02:54] sistpoty: So, we doing merges or more reviews? ;-) [02:54] bddebian: how do i use diffstat? [02:54] bddebian: or is it zcat? i've forgotten [02:54] sistpoty: now I have to use debdiff ? [02:54] (to check if the orig tarballs are different) [02:54] Hobbsee, Should I make a man page for my package if it doesn't have one? [02:54] bddebian: I'm too tired to think straight right now *g* [02:54] Hobbsee: Ohh, hmmm I'm not sure I remember [02:54] Give me a sec [02:55] somerville32: yes [02:55] enyc: first you'll need to create a source package... please recheck your debian/changelog (if you create a patch, it doesn't hurt to mention the patch name in the changelog) [02:55] somerville32: you should keep going until you get no warnings from lintian/linda, apart from the bad version and distribution, which are debian-specific [02:55] enyc: then do a dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -S -sa -us -uc [02:55] sistpoty: to make tneh source pkg.. i see [02:56] right [02:56] Hobbsee: diff -urN foo-old foo-new | diffstat > diffstat.txt [02:56] bddebian: neat [02:57] bddebian: presumably i need to convert both to .tar.gz first? [02:57] sistpoty: iirc this sort of thing needs "build-essential fakeroot" [02:58] enyc: then install it ;) === jikanter [n=jordan@4sel-user4.wireless.uic.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:59] Hobbsee: I would assume so, or maybe you could just view the contents with tar, not sure about that one [02:59] sistpoty: already have those... dpkg-buildpackage is complicated! [02:59] sistpoty: debian packaging is very powerful.... [02:59] bddebian: right [02:59] to merge or review.. That is the question [02:59] enyc: now you should have to .dsc-files, one being the original you downloaded, right? [03:00] (and two .diff.gz's) [03:01] sistpoty: qpsmtpd_0.32-4ubuntu1.diff.gz [03:01] sistpoty: its created a .changes file too [03:01] sistpoty: as well as new .dsc [03:01] sistpoty: bit leaves the same orig.tar.gv which makes sense ;-) [03:01] enyc: yes. the .changes file is useful for uploading, so you won't need that for a debdiff [03:02] enyc: so fire off debdiff ;) [03:02] sistpoty: with both .dsc files as arguments? [03:02] enyc: sure, debdiff will always compare two packages, so it needs to .dsc files [03:02] two [03:03] theCore: reviewed :) we may as well update that, i'm not sure how long debian will take [03:03] sistpoty: I see. now I just need to > thso to a file and upload to the bug ? === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:03] enyc: yes... :) [03:04] Hobbsee: thanks [03:04] theCore: :) [03:04] sistpoty: is there a naming scheme for .debdiff files? === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.226.1] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:05] What debian/compat is for? debhelper version? [03:05] Yes [03:05] enyc: it's nice to have the package name in it, and to know from and to which version it is... but there isn't a standard really [03:06] bddebian: i get [03:06] supertux_0.3.0.tar.gz |binary [03:06] 1 file changed [03:06] theCore: yep [03:06] ok, thanks bddebian, Hobbsee [03:06] bddebian: that presumably means...? [03:07] sistpoty: hrrm ok [03:07] Hobbsee: What's in the tarball? [03:07] Hobbsee, If I make a few modifications to disable compiling the python code in the Makefile.in provided by upstream, should I just make the mods or is the change (ie. commenting out a few lines) big enough to warrant the use of some sort of patch system? [03:08] bddebian: sorry? supertux*.orig.tar.gz, both changed from bz2 [03:08] sistpoty: should i be doing a dpkg-buildpackage -b and testing my fixed version? i do not have a fielst machine but im reasonably happy it will likely work on edgy anyway === Admiral_Chicago [i=FreddyMa@adsl-69-209-71-139.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:08] somerville32: anything changing the upstream tarball is. [03:08] somerville32: so, yes [03:09] enyc: you can use pbuilder to testbuild your package... the bot should know about it [03:09] !pbuilder howto [03:09] pbuilder: personal package builder for Debian packages. In component main, is extra. Version 0.155ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 77 kB, installed size 436 kB [03:09] !search pbuilder [03:09] Found: pbuilder [03:09] ubotu: pbuilder howto, not the package description [03:09] ubotu: please? [03:09] Sorry, I don't know anything about please? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [03:09] !pbuilder [03:09] pbuilder is a system to easily build packages in a clean chroot environment. To get started with PBuilder, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto [03:10] !pbuilder howto is pbuilder [03:10] I'll remember that, somerville32 [03:10] Hobbsee: What files/dirs are inside once you extract it? Maybe it's just another tarball inside the tarball so only 1 file changed? [03:11] Hobbsee: should I drop all the version dependencies? [03:11] thx somerville32 and ubotu [03:11] !botsnack [03:11] Yum! [03:12] heh [03:13] Any of you Python experts? [03:13] theCore: which ones were in ubuntu before? [03:14] bddebian: I've been struggling with this python package the last week or so (my first package) - so I might be able to provide some insight. [03:14] Hobbsee: I was trying to find it out [03:14] theCore: debdiff will help [03:15] sistpoty: hrrm my edgy pbuilder does not know howto create a fiesty enviorment [03:15] enyc, you need to install debootstrap from Feisty. [03:15] theCore: leave the maintainer field and all that as it is [03:15] Hobbsee: ok === Hobbsee wonders why the debian/docs changes [03:17] hi [03:18] theCore: why the - dh_installchangelogs ChangeLog? [03:18] Heya chillywilly [03:18] oh, is it not there anymore [03:18] Hobbsee: uh? [03:18] theCore: you took dh_installchangelogs ChangeLog out of debian/rules - any reason why? [03:19] Hobbsee: there isn't a ChangeLog anymore [03:19] gotcha [03:19] my debdiff appears not to show that :P === ryanakca [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:19] somerville32: Nevermind, thanks, apparently the mighty geser already fixed it :) [03:20] Fujitsu: coo thatnks... that seem to be working [03:21] engla, np [03:21] tsmithe, ping [03:25] bddebian: foudn the trick [03:25] bddebian: untar both tarballs, then do the folders [03:27] Ah, yes thx [03:28] Damn it's hard to tell what's already been requested to be synced, etc.. :-( === sistpoty is now off to bed [03:29] gn8 everyone === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar_ [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:30] bddebian: yep === fbond [n=fab@pool-72-92-138-194.burl.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:31] Hobbsee: when should I put versioned dependencies? [03:33] Hobbsee: and it's correct to just copy the description from Supertux's homepage? [03:33] theCore, why are you repackaging it? [03:33] theCore: you need to for debhelper. if it doesnt build/work with the lower dependancies. there's nothing technically *wrong* with them, unless you try to backport it [03:34] Fujitsu: major upstream version change, whcih means a lot of the info is out of date/wrong now [03:34] Fujitsu: like description, build system, etc [03:34] Ah, that'd do it. [03:34] Fujitsu: upstream changed to jam, instead of make [03:34] Ew. [03:34] so it'll be painful to merge, i expect, but we'll cope [03:34] hehe. i've not seen jam in action [03:35] Why not wait for Debian? [03:35] Fujitsu: selfish reasons [03:35] Hahah. [03:35] like, "we've got devs who want to play this" [03:36] Fujitsu: :P :D [03:36] Frozen-Bubble I can understand, but I've not played SuperTux. [03:36] Are patch and unpatch rules called automatically or do I need to add calls in build and clean? === Hobbsee doesnt have frozen bubble installed, actually [03:36] somerville32: you need to add it, unless it's using cdbs [03:36] FreeLords!! Of course I need my libparagui first :-( [03:36] assuming your using patch, of course [03:36] bddebian: hrm? [03:36] bddebian: what's freelords? [03:37] !info freelords feist [03:37] !info freelords feisty [03:37] Package freelords does not exist in edgy [03:37] Package freelords does not exist in feisty [03:37]