[12:01] <Xinux> cedega is fairly small
[12:01] <reverseblade> !bye
[12:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bye - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:01] <Xinux> cedega is winex tho
[12:01] <Slingky> so is somebody able to help me with evolution problem ?
[12:01] <Bepo> hey guys is there a fix for Totem-XInes washed out color?
[12:01] <livingtm> reverseblade, i cant even seem to make an initial tar to split
[12:01] <masura> Xinux, true
[12:01] <bimberi> ubuntuuser: it's in the universe repository, which you might need to enable ...
[12:01] <bimberi> !universe | ubuntuuser
[12:01] <ubotu> ubuntuuser: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[12:01] <cmweb> ok virturalmachine
[12:01] <Xinux> and virtual machines would be the best
[12:02] <goose> how does one add glipper to the panel?
[12:02] <masura> But I'm off to bed. Good night.
[12:02] <JackInTheGreen> gnome-screenshot kane77
[12:02] <neuratix> i've got a problem with codeblocks on 64bit edgy, anyone know anything about this?
[12:02] <neuratix> lorents@acid:~$ codeblocks
[12:02] <neuratix> codeblocks: error while loading shared libraries: libcodeblocks.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:02] <Bepo> Could someone please help me with TOTEM-XINE the color are really aweful when I play streaming videos?
[12:02] <LjL> cmweb, unless when you said "programs" you meant "games", Cedega will be of very little help over WINE
[12:02] <luke86_> hi all
[12:02] <al3xanr0> what cmd line arguement will invoke/ display gnome-main-menu if any?
[12:02] <storkme> how does one get ram module info on ubuntu?
[12:03] <cmweb> ljl, yeah mostly games
[12:03] <ubuntuuser> what is the manager alled in add/remove? i have all repositories enabled
[12:03] <schwofler> hi, i'm having trouble configuring tv-out on my nvidia geforce 5600
[12:03] <bimberi> goose: iirc, you add it to the Startup Programs and it will appear in the Notification area (might be wrong though)
[12:03] <LjL> cmweb: then say 'games'. a game is a program for sure, but the issues involved are a tad different.
[12:03] <Bepo> Could someone please help me with TOTEM-XINE the color are really aweful when I play streaming videos? Prettty please?
[12:03] <LjL> cmweb: Cedega certainly *is* intended for games
[12:04] <bimberi> ubuntuuser: it may not be in Add/Remove... try Synaptic
[12:04] <cmweb> ljl, not only for games though i also want to use some image edditing that uses Microsoft Frame Works
[12:04] <ubuntuuser> honestly, i never knew there was a difference
[12:04] <cmweb> but ok
[12:04] <cmweb> on cedega
[12:04] <Aggrav8d> join #php
[12:05] <cafuego_> Aggrav8d: no
[12:05] <Bepo> Could someone please help me with TOTEM-XINE the color are really aweful when I play streaming videos? Or someone point me in the right direction
[12:05] <Xinux> cmweb, how much ram do you have?
[12:05] <Bepo> anyone experience same vid quality with totem?
[12:05] <schwofler> i already edited xorg.conf according to some howtos on ubuntuforums, but i still have no tv-output. the strange thing is i dont get any errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:05] <cmweb> Is cedega free>
[12:05] <dm_> no
[12:05] <cmweb> xinux, 128MB
[12:05] <LjL> cmweb: no. the source code is free for download, though
[12:05] <cafuego_> cmweb: Well....
[12:06] <cmweb> ljl, that of course is going to be the hard part right?
[12:06] <Marco``> hi guys. could you tell me if edubuntu is multilanguage?
[12:06] <Marco``> I need a german version of it
[12:06] <dm_> cmweb try getting whatever you are working on to run in Wine, much better, and has the less likely chance to be corrupted by the multiple crashes Cedega is prone too
[12:06] <cafuego_> Marco``: it's multilanguage
[12:06] <LjL> cmweb: compiling? yeah. if you don't want to pay for the precompiled version, yeah. tutorials abound, though.
[12:06] <Slingky> hi. does somebody want to help me ?
[12:06] <Marco``> cafuego: thank's a lot
[12:06] <LjL> cmweb: i doubt you'll run many games very well with 128Mb RAM at any rate
[12:07] <Xinux> cmweb, especially if you try using vmware with 128mb of ram
[12:07] <cmweb> ljl, i had them running like crazy in windos
[12:07] <cmweb> xlinux, im not going vmware
[12:08] <cafuego_> cmweb: Not with 128Mb of ram, no.
[12:08] <Xinux> yeah lol
[12:08] <mc44> LjL: solitare maybe
[12:08] <cafuego_> cmweb: Just be aware that performance under wine will not be on the same level as what you get in windows.
[12:08] <cmweb> well what am i supposed to do i got an old windows 98 in the corner with 64 MB want me to take it out?
[12:08] <goose> bimberi: thanks
[12:08] <feross> hey, anyone mess around with qdvdauth? I keep getting errors when I try to export the project.
[12:09] <bimberi> goose: np :)
[12:09] <goose> bimberi: i was looking more for how to edit the add app to panel so that it would show glipper.
[12:09] <cafuego_> cmweb: I'm personally of the optinion that if you need to run windows software, the best way to do it is under windows.
[12:09] <malikeye> goose: as in Maverick and Goose ?
[12:09] <goose> bimberi: i remember doing it before, but have forgotten since
[12:09] <Music_Shuffle> Maverick was far cooler.
[12:09] <goose> malikeye  =) more like silly goose
[12:09] <Music_Shuffle> ...and still alive by the end.
[12:10] <cmweb> well my windows it gone due to a virus so thats out of the question
[12:10] <cmweb> although
[12:10] <bimberi> goose: ah, not sure about that sorry (wouldn't mind knowing though)
[12:10] <vBart> hi guys!
[12:10] <goose> bimberi: i'll keep you posted
[12:10] <cmweb> i do congratulate Linux on no viruses yet!
[12:10] <vBart> i have a question
[12:10] <dm_> cmweb linux has viruses
[12:10] <vBart> i am a total noob
[12:10] <cafuego_> cmweb: Sorry, there was a worm over a decade ago
[12:10] <cmweb> Dont tell me that
[12:10] <dm_> cmweb they are just more rare
[12:10] <cmweb> noooo
[12:10] <cafuego_> vBart: that was a statement, not a question ;-)
[12:11] <vBart> and i dont know how to hange the resolution in my ubuntu
[12:11] <cmweb> Wheres that virus scanner
[12:11] <JackInTheGreen> lol
[12:11] <Music_Shuffle> vBart, system - Preferences - resolution
[12:11] <vBart> on 1440 x 900
[12:11] <malikeye> well, then you have to ask the questino, what is a virus
[12:11] <bruenig> !fixres | vBart
[12:11] <ubotu> vBart: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:11] <vBart> i know that
[12:11] <cafuego_> cmweb: thing is, a linux virus would run a user, thus be unable to destroy the system.
[12:11] <dm_> cmweb, virus writers target microsux. Ive been running linux without a virus scanner for a year, you just have to know where your packages are coming from
[12:11] <malikeye> cafuego_: exactly.... windows basically runs as root most of the time
[12:11] <malikeye> well, the people have admini rghts and don't know what the hell it means :)
[12:12] <mnoir> cmweb: clamav, avg both are linux AV
[12:12] <vBart> i know where to do it but i dont have a 1440x900 resolution to choose :(
[12:12] <cafuego_> malikeye; Not quite, but it does encourage people to log in as administrators all the time.
[12:12] <cmweb> dm_, im considered a noob and i duno where me packages are comming from i suppose the ubuntu server
[12:12] <bruenig> !fixres | vBart
[12:12] <ubotu> vBart: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:12] <dm_> cmweb then you are fine,
[12:12] <kitche> mnoir: not really both are AV but only do Window viruses
[12:12] <dm_> cmweb do not worry nublet, and welcome to Linux, its a beautiful world
[12:12] <vBart> thanks!:)
[12:12] <vBart> luv ya !:D
[12:12] <shwag> so how can I put music on my iPod from ubuntu ?
[12:12] <malikeye> well, the code is vulnerable as well, which doesn't help :)
[12:13] <mnoir> they do any virus for which they have a signature
[12:13] <cmweb> dm_, im not that new but thanks :)
[12:13] <dm_> shwag gtkPod
[12:13] <bimberi> !ipod | shwag
[12:13] <ubotu> shwag: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[12:13] <kitche> shwag: use gtkpod
[12:13] <cafuego_> shwag: start gtkpod, it seems to work fine.
[12:13] <malikeye> yeah gtkpod
[12:13] <shwag> coool
[12:13] <bimberi> banshee! ;P
[12:13] <cafuego_> actually, gtkpod wasn't happy with the new video metatdata format last time I tried it
[12:13] <cafuego_> bimberi: only for people with 512+MB of ram
[12:13] <kitche> cafuego_: nothing really likes the video ipod :)
[12:13] <konam> gtkpod is fine but doesn't support lyrics...
[12:14] <cmweb> Where do i get the cedega source?
[12:14] <LjL> Ubotu, tell cmweb about cedega | cmweb, see the private message from Ubotu
[12:14] <cafuego_> kitche: me and my tv like it a lot actually
[12:14] <dm_> shwag for updating music album covers and reading the ipod, i sugges Exaile. www.exaile.com
[12:14] <dm_> shwag awesome music app
[12:15] <bimberi> cafuego_: oh.  kk.  It's been ok for me on 256 although my usage is minimal and very light.
[12:15] <animefanatic> can some one help me use grub, i am trying to reinstall it by using the tutorial at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, I am using the 4th process down. When i try to use the root(hd0,0) command i get an error saying unrecognized command
[12:16] <cafuego_> bimberi: I have around 40GB of mp3's in mine and it just hangs... :-(
[12:16] <kitche> animefanatic: you in the grub prompt?
[12:16] <cafuego_> bimberi: I don't think mono is a very good friend of large datasets
[12:16] <animefanatic> yes
[12:16] <bimberi> cafuego_: ah, i probably have 40 *MB* of mp3s :)
[12:16] <shwag> How come Rhythmbox is the default player is Banshee does so much more ?
[12:16] <MatthewV> shwag, mono deps?
[12:17] <dm_> shwag banshee is still kinda buggy
[12:17] <cafuego_> shwag: banshee is a mono (.net) app and likes to eat ram. lots of it.
[12:17] <pianoboy3333> IS there a unix2dos utility for windows?
[12:17] <malikeye> why would there be ?
[12:17] <MatthewV> animefanatic, reading the instructions it looks like you need a space between root and hd(0,0)
[12:17] <shwag> smart crowd here
[12:18] <malikeye> pianoboy3333: the point of tha tool is to strip the line breaks
[12:18] <animefanatic> k i'll try that
[12:18] <cafuego_> malikeye: add them you mean?
[12:18] <pianoboy3333> malikeye: so that when I put my work on to windows, I can convert it...
[12:18] <malikeye> huh ? it strips the ^M's off of DOS files
[12:18] <kitche> animefanatic: ah I didn't notice that you didn't put a space in between root and (hd0,0)
[12:19] <cafuego_> malikeye: unix2dos adds 'em ;-)
[12:19] <lupine_85> ^M--
[12:19] <animefanatic> ah the space made the difference
[12:19] <cafuego_> malikeye: dos2unix strips 'em
[12:19] <dm_> shwag im telling ya, try Exaile
[12:19] <lupine_85> all those wasted bytes... :p
[12:19] <MatthewV> animefanatic, :)
[12:19] <malikeye> hmm, didn't know there was a reverse
[12:19] <animefanatic> but now the  setup command isn't working, gives me an error saying it can't find the partition
[12:19] <animefanatic> i have windows installed on the first part of my main HD
[12:19] <animefanatic> so i thought that would be hd0
[12:19] <cafuego_> malikeye; 's just a symlink, but does the reverse task.
[12:19] <kitche> animefanatic: what partition?
[12:19] <malikeye> then again I don't convert stuff to win/dos either :)
[12:19] <shwag> dm_: ok, ill look. can it tell me the power meter on my ipod so I know what the charge is ?  i have an ipod shuffle that doesnt have a screen.
[12:20] <MatthewV> animefanatic, so hd(0,0) is what was output by "fine /boot/grub/stage1" ?
[12:20] <malikeye> sorry pianoboy3333, don't listen to me :)
[12:20] <dm_> shwag nothing does that
[12:20] <dm_> shwag i dont even know if itunes did that
[12:20] <kitche> animefanatic: that is hd0 if you have an ide system
[12:20] <animefanatic> o i didn't use that process matthewV, should i use that command tho
[12:20] <SilentDis> 'lo :)
[12:20] <Slingky> somebody knows how to recreate evolution profile ?
[12:21] <MatthewV> animefanatic, well, are you following the howto? or not... thats all? ;)
[12:21] <animefanatic> well it think that is the 3rd process down
[12:21] <animefanatic> isn't it
[12:21] <DagonX> I seem to have lost connection to my swap file, will someone tell me to get it connected again
[12:21] <noneee> hello all! I'm searching for a gnu/linux usb compatible compact keyboard that has a built-in touchpad or built-in trackball and that is wireless. anyone can help me?
[12:21] <MatthewV> animefanatic, yes it is
[12:21] <shwag> dm_: how am I suppose to know if a ipod shuffle is charging ?
[12:21] <animefanatic> oops
[12:21] <b1ackBart> anyone here try the latest version of mint? It's an Ubuntu distro released yesterday.
[12:21] <lupine_85> DagonX: swapon -a
[12:21] <animefanatic> i am using 4th
[12:21] <SilentDis> !swap | DagonX
[12:21] <ubotu> DagonX: swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[12:21] <MatthewV> animefanatic, i would suggest in your case it would probably be easiest to just overwrite the MBR, that is, to write to hd0
[12:21] <dm_> shwag if its plugged in, its charging.
[12:21] <lupine_85> b1ackBart: peppermint?
[12:22] <cafuego_> BlackHawk: if it's not called Ubuntu it's not an Ubuntu distro.
[12:22] <dm_> shwag the shuffle is a bit less complicated than the other ipods
[12:22] <cafuego_> grrr
[12:22] <MatthewV> animefanatic, that will then destroy the evil windows boot loader ;) and stick grub there instead
[12:22] <shwag> dm_: i guess so.
[12:22] <animefanatic> yes thats what i want to do overwrite my MBR
[12:22] <b1ackBart> called LinuxMint, I think
[12:22] <lupine_85> cafuego_: could be a fork of ubuntu
[12:22] <animefanatic> what proces back
[12:22] <animefanatic> what process should i use
[12:22] <shwag> dm_: Psychedelic Trance Music Production Group ?
[12:22] <dm_> shwag just get it ?
[12:22] <shwag> dm_: exaile.com
[12:22] <dm_> hold on
[12:22] <animefanatic> i using a live cd at the moment cause ubuntu doesn't want to install for me
[12:22] <cafuego_> lupine_85: looks like it is
[12:22] <dm_> shwag woops, .org
[12:22] <bud_> hello, im having problems with my edgy latest kernel upgrade, im running 2.6.17-10-generic, and after some time working on my computer kernel error message pop out on my console, and then starts troubles, error message is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38297/
[12:23] <dm_> shwag http://www.exaile.org/
[12:23] <mado> hello ...
[12:23] <MatthewV> animefanatic, what does "find /boot/grub/stage1" give you?
[12:23] <cafuego_> lupine_85: with a blue theme and an OSX background
[12:23] <bud_> anyone familiar with problem
[12:23] <Shocka311> Hey, i'm trying to install the Windows Codecs (w32codecs) to play win media files and I don't know which one I should install. i386, AMD64, or power PC
[12:23] <SilentDis> !hi | mado
[12:23] <ubotu> mado: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:23] <shwag> dm_: is it gtk or qt ?
[12:23] <bimberi> Linux Mint? Yes, a Ubuntu derivative that installs lots of those legally questionable codecs by default.
[12:23] <mado> is there anyone who speaks german?
[12:23] <lupine_85> cafuego_: ah, like ubuntu satanic edition then?
[12:23] <bimberi> !de
[12:23] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:23] <lupine_85> only less infernal :p
[12:23] <SilentDis> Shoka311:  safest best is the i386 ones.  if you're using edgy, that's probably what you want :)
[12:23] <cafuego_> mado: Nein, das gibt's hier nicht.
[12:24] <dm_> shwag uh good question, i think its qt
[12:24] <mado> cafuego ...
[12:24] <cafuego_> lupine_85: that's black-on-black
[12:24] <mado> danke
[12:24] <shwag> dm_: BEEEP - wrong.  GTK+
[12:24] <Shocka311> Silentdis: I'm using dapper
[12:24] <mado> einen moment bitte kurz
[12:24] <shwag> dm_: "Exaile is a media player aiming to be similar to KDE's AmaroK, but for GTK+."
[12:24] <SilentDis> Shocka311:  what do you get from uname -r at a console?
[12:24] <animefanatic> it gives me no such file or directory matthewv
[12:24] <noneee> is it possible to control the mouse pointer using just the keyboard?
[12:25] <dm_> shwag my bad :P
[12:25] <SilentDis> noneee:  I THINK there's such an option in accessability... though I haven't explored them
[12:25] <malikeye> exaile looks cool
[12:25] <Shocka311> Silentdis:I don't know what does that mean?
[12:26] <mado> cafuego ...
[12:26] <SilentDis> Shocka311:  go to a terminal, and type in uname -r
[12:26] <SilentDis> Shocka311:  let us know what the output is :)
[12:26] <noneee> SilenceGold, thanks! I'll check right now
[12:26] <mado> koennten wir in einem privaten raum sprechen? ... ich haette einige fragen zum system
[12:27] <Shocka311> silentdis: 2.6.15-27-386, so I guesss that means i386?
[12:27] <philo23> i installed kubuntu by running apt-get kubuntu-desktop in terminal, all went well apart from one broken package, ksysguardd, i've tried reinstalling, but no luck that gives the same error: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/842894 . any ideas?
[12:27] <cafuego_> mado: Man spricht deutsch im #ubuntu-de Kanal.
[12:27] <SilentDis> Shocka311:  yep, you're running the 2.6.15-27-i386 kernel, so you want i386 optimized programs to run under it :)
[12:28] <mado> cafuego, ... dankesehr ... ich bin neu hier ... das wusste ich nicht ...
[12:28] <Shocka311> awesone, thanks
[12:28] <mado> ist der auch bei freenode?
[12:28] <cafuego_> mado: Ja, das glaub ich
[12:28] <stefano> kann jemand mir sagen wie man mercury installiert?
[12:29] <conreyt> I don't seem to have any window borders......  Where would I start troubleshooting?  or better yet, how can I use synaptic to reinstall the default window manager packages?
[12:29] <cafuego_> !de > stefano
[12:29] <MatthewV> animefanatic, you are using the live cd method?
[12:29] <MatthewV> lupine_85, i would call that a unofficial derivative ;)
[12:29] <kitche> conreyt: what are you using beryl?
[12:29] <SilentDis> conreyt:  did you just install compiz/beryl?
[12:29] <animefanatic> yes
[12:29] <animefanatic> cause ubuntu wont install for me
[12:29] <ikonia> chaps - what part of ubuntu does an automatic backup to /var/backups
[12:29] <lupine_85> MatthewV: I'd call it a theme
[12:29] <conreyt> kitche, SilentDis: I just uninstalled it.
[12:29] <ikonia> my disk space is being eaten up and I have no idea where this job is running fro m
[12:29] <ikonia> from
[12:29] <ikonia> there is no cron job
[12:30] <dm_> shwag all i know is i love this thing, the new version has some nive plugins, and its not as laggy as amarok
[12:30] <philo23> i installed kubuntu by running apt-get kubuntu-desktop in terminal, all went well apart from one broken package, ksysguardd, i've tried reinstalling, but no luck that gives the same error: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/842894 . any ideas?
[12:30] <SilentDis> conreyt: you'll probably need to just restart gdm.  ctrl-alt-backspace :)
[12:30] <cafuego_> ikonia: No part, /var/backups just contains one or two dumps of IMPORTANT files.
[12:30] <ikonia> well something was backing up /home to it this morning
[12:30] <cafuego_> ikonia: You could check /var/cache/apt/archives though
[12:30] <conreyt> kitche, SilentDis: Let me restate that I uninstalled it last night, shutdown, and started it up just now.  Kids are upset they can't move any windows
[12:31] <cafuego_> ikonia: Oh, that's an sbackup task I think but that's not automatic.
[12:31] <ikonia> nah it was /var/backups
[12:31] <ikonia> really ? what triggers it
[12:31] <ikonia> I certainly didn't
[12:31] <Frem> Every time I boot up, I have to click the panel icon, reenter my password, deactivate and activate my wifi card before I get internet access.
[12:31] <shwag> dm_: yah, amarok was slow.
[12:31] <cafuego_> ikonia: someone must have installed the backup software and set a backup task
[12:31] <kitche> conreyt: open up a terminal and type in metacity & and see if that helps you
[12:31] <Frem> Is there a way to not do this?
[12:31] <conreyt> kitche, SilentDis: The "loading desktop manager" took a long time during login....
[12:31] <SilentDis> conreyt:  oh!  lol.  what distro are you running, Edgy or Dapper?
[12:31] <ikonia>  cafuegothere is no cronjob to run it
[12:31] <conreyt> SilentDis: edgy
[12:32] <cafuego_> ikonia: where did you check for cron jobs?
[12:32] <conreyt> kitche: kk one sec
[12:32] <ikonia> crontab -l
[12:32] <dm_> shwag the cover manager in Exaile is a bit faster than amaroks too, and it will do the covers for your ipods music.
[12:32] <plsDaemon> NVIDIA: any1 know how get 7667 kernel deb installed? I got syntax errors on line 1 and nothing else
[12:32] <ikonia> /var/spool/cron too
[12:32] <SilentDis> conreyt:  most of the distros walk you through creating a new session that's 'beryl enabled', seperate from a simple gnome/kde one.  have you tried logging back out, selecting that session, then back in?
[12:32] <cafuego_> ikonia: /etc/cron.*/*
[12:32] <kortec> hey, is there a ubuntu repo indexing site somewhere? similar to gentoo-portage.com
[12:32] <bud_> could anyone help me?
[12:32] <ikonia> ahhh
[12:32] <bruenig> archive.ubuntu.com
[12:33] <SilentDis> plsDaemon:  are you trying to install the latest NVidia drivers from their website?
[12:33] <bruenig> http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[12:33] <MatthewV> animefanatic, sry i disappeared.. connection issues.. hows it going?
[12:33] <conreyt> kitche, SilentDis: brb trying a couple of your suggestions...
[12:33] <kortec> bruenig .. yeah. i should have seen taht coming. thanks. =)
[12:33] <clem_> bud_: on what ?
[12:34] <ikonia> jesus !!! there is a daily job to backup /home
[12:34] <plsDaemon> No, I never got around newer drivers so I inst. 7667 drivers
[12:34] <bruenig> kortec, there should be a search engine in the firefox search engine box for packages.ubuntu.com
[12:34] <clem_> ikonia: some sort of house insurance? :)
[12:34] <animefanatic> umm well basicly i am right were we were before you disconnected
[12:34] <bud_> clem_: i posted problem,just sec i will repeat it
[12:34] <SilentDis> plsDaemon:  if you'd like to go with the new ones, there's a great little script that automates the whole process for you.  perfect install every time :)
[12:34] <clem_> bud_: ok
[12:34] <ikonia> seems a bit of an agressive job to add automaticlly
[12:34] <SilentDis> !envy | plsDaemon
[12:34] <ubotu> plsDaemon: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy
[12:34] <kortec> bruenig yeah, it's kind of for a friend, but i'll reccomend it to her. thanks.
[12:34] <cafuego_> ikonia: which fils is that in?
[12:35] <bud_> clem_: hello, im having problems with my edgy latest kernel upgrade, im running 2.6.17-10-generic, and after some time working on my computer kernel error  message pop out on my console, and then starts troubles, error message is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38297/
[12:35] <ikonia> cron.daily
[12:35] <MatthewV> animefanatic, so did you try the find command?
[12:35] <ikonia> backup-manager
[12:35] <FFForever> can i get wobbly windows on my ATI Readon XPRESS 200M 5955?
[12:35] <animefanatic> ya the find command couldn't find the file
[12:35] <plsDaemon> Ok, i'll try with that...This has taken too long
[12:35] <cafuego_> ikonia: Ok. Which package does it belong to? 'dpkg -S /etc/cron.daily/backup-manager'
[12:35] <ubuntuuser> where can i find lots of cool gnome screensvers?
[12:35] <bruenig> gnome-look.org
[12:35] <clem_> bud_: and what's the problem apart from those messages ?
[12:35] <bruenig> art.gnome.org
[12:36] <bud_> clem_: sudo stops working, it just freez everithing
[12:36] <ikonia> cafuego "not found"
[12:36] <erUSUL> bud_: i suggest to file a bug report in launchpad there is little we can do about it here
[12:36] <erUSUL> !bug
[12:36] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[12:36] <cafuego_> ikonia: 'backup-manager' by default asks if it should back up /etc and /home each night when it is installed.
[12:36] <clem_> ubuntuuser: also check xscreensaver, replacement for gnome-screensaver, more options.
[12:36] <ikonia> I don't remember seeing that question
[12:36] <Zilliot> hi!
[12:37] <ikonia> that doesn't mean it didn't ask
[12:37] <clem_> bud_: so it boots fine, but when you use sudo it hangs??
[12:37] <Zilliot> help me!
[12:37] <cafuego_> ikonia: I just installed it, and that's what it asked me.
[12:37] <Zilliot> i have ubuntu end nikia 6260
[12:37] <swanfl> Zilliot, ask
[12:37] <plsDaemon> ARGH I have 5.10 and Envy seems not to work
[12:37] <clem_> Zilliot: ask!
[12:37] <ikonia> just removed it
[12:37] <FFForever> yes, no, maybe?
[12:37] <Orestes^> before upgrading my ubuntu version, I used to have a fancy popup notification window when I used the shortcut keys for volume control with kmix... I don't have them any more... Does anybody have any clue about where they have been lost?
[12:37] <bud_> clem_: no, it boots fine, and it is working fine for some time, when i hear beep message pop out
[12:38] <Zilliot> i need program for nikia 6260 for gprs connect to internet
[12:38] <clem_> bud_: ok I don't think it's related..
[12:38] <cafuego_> ikonia: Just the file or the whole package?
[12:38] <bud_> clem_: so you suggest i report a bug
[12:38] <ikonia> whole package
[12:38] <ikonia> I can backup when I want
[12:38] <clem_> bud_: you can specify "quiet splash" in grub to not see the messages.
[12:38] <Zilliot> my ubuntu now not see my mobile phone
[12:38] <clem_> bud_: I think the freeze is not related to the kernel message
[12:38] <conreyt> kitche: nice call, metacity isn't starting now by default.... How do I correct that?
[12:39] <plsDaemon> Is there a eaz way to uprage from 5.1 to 6.1?
[12:39] <cafuego_> ikonia: Also run 'sudo dpkg --purge backup-manager' so get rid of the config files
[12:39] <clem_> bud_: could it be a problem with your ACPI or your 3D acceleration?
[12:39] <ikonia> ahhh thats handy to know
[12:39] <bud_> clem_: maybe, but this never happend before upgrade
[12:39] <bruenig> plsDaemon, download the 6.10 iso
[12:39] <ikonia> thank you
[12:39] <kitche> conreyt: you probably have to fix the session file that you use to login with
[12:39] <clem_> bud_: and it happens often now?
[12:39] <bud_> clem_: i dont use acpi, but i have nvidia 3d card
[12:39] <cafuego_> ikonia: I can recommend 'sbackup' as a nice tool to schedule backups by hand.
[12:39] <bud_> clem_: yes
[12:39] <cafuego_> ikonia: GUI though
[12:39] <ikonia> cafuego installing now
[12:39] <ikonia> thank you
[12:40] <ikonia> rats, I'd rather have had a cli
[12:40] <ikonia>  not to worry though
[12:40] <bud_> clem_: maybe i shuld try with removeing restricted modules
[12:40] <conreyt> kitche: what do I need to change?
[12:40] <clem_> bud_: you still have the old kernel installed.
[12:40] <kitche> conreyt: see if something kills metacity in the session file
[12:40] <bud_> clem_: no! :)
[12:40] <clem_> bud_: do you have a grub entry for the old kernel ?
[12:40] <bud_> clem_: no, i removed it
[12:40] <cafuego_> ikonia: maybe rdiff-backup and manaul cron
[12:41] <clem_> bud_: ooh :)
[12:41] <conreyt> kitche: uneducated question..... where's my session file :)
[12:41] <Zilliot> help me!
[12:41] <malikeye> backula is cool for backups
[12:41] <malikeye> it's a little work though
[12:41] <ikonia> cafuego I've used a technique like that before
[12:41] <Slike> hello, how do i schedule a script to be executed e.g. every 15 seconds?
[12:41] <kitche> conreyt: hmm not sure exactly sicne I don't use them myself but most likely in /etc/X11 someplace
[12:42] <clem_> bud_: I'm sorry man.. I don't really know how to help anymore. I used all my good ideas...
[12:42] <bud_> clem_: no problems, thanks anyway
[12:43] <plsDaemon> df
[12:43] <roho> what file permissions need to be on the files in /etc/ssh ? when i try to restart sshd it says it can't find the keys, but they're there. what uid does sshd run under?
[12:43] <Valmarko> :) How do I remove beryl from the system using the terminal ?
[12:44] <sinisterguy> Valmarko: sudo apt-get remove beryl
[12:44] <apokryphos> !apt | Valmarko
[12:44] <ubotu> Valmarko: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[12:44] <Valmarko> tanks
[12:44] <roho> !sshd_config
[12:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sshd_config - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:44] <roho> hrm
[12:45] <Orestes^> !hrm
[12:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hrm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:45] <Orestes^> thought so
[12:45] <malikeye> ssh is usuall 644 or 600
[12:46] <malikeye> everything .pub is 644, everthing else is 644
[12:46] <malikeye> is /etc/ssh
[12:46] <malikeye> s/is/in/
[12:46] <malikeye> duh
[12:46] <malikeye> pub = 644 , everything else 600
[12:46] <lufis> Guys, why does computing suck so much?
[12:47] <Corbeaux> PEBUC
[12:47] <sinisterguy> i've been having a problem with totem-xine. no matter what video i play, i don't see it. the audio plays, but no video
[12:48] <lufis> sinisterguy: do you know what codec the video is encoded in?
[12:48] <apokryphos> sinisterguy: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[12:48] <sinisterguy> lufis: i've tried mp4 h.264 wmv theora divx, everything
[12:48] <lufis> sinisterguy: install the xine-extracodecs package, maybe?
[12:49] <lufis> sinisterguy: you'll have to enable some extra repos, i can't remember which
[12:49] <sinisterguy> apokryphos: i installed the w32codecs package from there
[12:49] <sinisterguy> and i installed libxine-extracodecs
[12:49] <lufis> sinisterguy: ah, i don't know then
[12:49] <Valmarko> Should I run autoremove after removing beryl and emerald-themes ?
[12:49] <apokryphos> sinisterguy: then everything would be playing just fine
[12:49] <Gumby> has anyone here ever had issues in ubuntu with mail not being sent from kmail?  It just sits in my outbox forever
[12:50] <apokryphos> Gumby: and if you try to manually send it, what happens?
[12:50] <Gumby> apokryphos: nothing.  it sitll just sits there
[12:50] <richie> Maybe your outgoing POP3 is wrong.
[12:50] <apokryphos> no errors? Nothing? I find that hard to believe.
[12:50] <richie> Have you checked it?
[12:50] <Gumby> lol @ outgoing pop3
[12:51] <simtris> Valmarko : Why ? It insn't necessery
[12:51] <Gumby> pop3 is incoming.  smtp or sendmail are outgoing
[12:51] <sinisterguy> apokryphos: will the debian w32codecs package on the wiki work with edgy?
[12:51] <Valmarko> But , if I do it, is it safe ?
[12:51] <malikeye> well sendmail does both
[12:51] <reptile> greetings again
[12:51] <reptile> does ubuntu have good printer support?
[12:51] <apokryphos> sinisterguy: you're better off using the one from the repositories, in case there's changes. I doubt it, though, and xine with the relevant codecs should be able to play pretty much anything anyhow
[12:51] <richie> It has decent printer support.
[12:52] <richie> I have an Epson and it worked with a few clicks.
[12:52] <simtris> Valmarko : yes ... it just remove the library U don't need
[12:52] <zspada15> reptile, what printer do you have?
[12:52] <reptile> I need a good site to get drivers for my printer
[12:52] <Gumby> richard__: yes, I have checked the outgoing settings.  it doesnt work on either account I use.
[12:52] <Gumby> sorry, richie not richard
[12:52] <simtris> Valmarko : it stay after some configuration files
[12:52] <reptile> I'm trying to connect to a network copier printer
[12:52] <zspada15> reptile, what make is the printer?
[12:52] <richie> Ubuntu may already have the driver you need.
[12:52] <reptile> ricoh aficio 3245c
[12:52] <Valmarko> tanks
[12:52] <malikeye> canon ?
[12:53] <zspada15> what brand reptile ?
[12:53] <reptile> it's a ricoh
[12:53] <reptile> ricoh is the brand
[12:53] <zspada15> !print | reptile
[12:53] <ubotu> reptile: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[12:53] <reptile> aficio 3245c
[12:54] <simtris> ^^ First time i use IRC and i'll see that Ubuntu is the most active channel !! Great !
[12:56] <wy> Can I bridge using a wireless lan?
[12:57] <konam> there's someone of the blubuntu artwork team here?
[01:01] <jman_> ack what just happened
[01:01] <PriceChild> jman_, net split
[01:01] <PriceChild> !netsplit | jman_
[01:01] <jman_> oh
[01:02] <PriceChild> jman_, bah no ubotu to tell you what it is :)
[01:02] <PriceChild> jman_, basically freenode is MANY servers all connected together to make one big server.... one or two just got separated
[01:02] <PriceChild> we're one the "wrong" side
[01:02] <jman_> eeesh
[01:03] <jman_> speaking of servers
[01:04] <jman_> I was thinking about running the linux floppy router in VMWare at work and actually use it could that be doable?
[01:07] <ramza3> whereis  everyone, seems lie there is something wrong with freenode
[01:11] (htt/#ubuntu) did a memory check by mistake..  is it safe aborting?
[01:11] (zylche/#ubuntu) I smell some 56k'ers who will be pinged out soon..
[01:12] (Seveas/#ubuntu) @restart
[01:12] (pc22/#ubuntu) thanks bimberi
[01:12] (khaladan/#ubuntu) on startup when it says "Loading hardware drivers" where is it getting the list of drivers to load from?
[01:12] <Seveas> @restart
[01:13] <AshyIsMe> is there some way to set up the kernel for dual cpus without downloading the source and just reconfigging?
[01:13] <Pie-rate> only about 300 more people need to rejoin...
[01:13] <mc44> AshyIsMe: which version of ubuntu are you running?
[01:14] <AshyIsMe> mc44, 6.06
[01:14] <HymnToLife> AshyIsMe, if running edgy, the default kernel has SMP support, in Dapper, install linux-686-smp (given your cpu is Intel)
[01:14] <Pie-rate> guess i need to renice gaim so all this joining stops interfering with WoW
[01:14] <AshyIsMe> yeah it's a dual pII box
[01:14] <malikeye> netsplits are weird
[01:14] <bruenig> !netsplit
[01:14] <HymnToLife> nestplits are fun
[01:14] <conic> !netplit stop
[01:14] <bruenig> or did we lose ubotu in the split
[01:14] <htt> !netsplit
[01:14] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[01:14] <bctrainers> netsplits lag me :(
[01:14] <AshyIsMe> HymnToLife, k, thanks
[01:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about netplit stop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:15] <bimberi> HymnToLife: cheers :)
[01:15] <Joe> Hi.
[01:15] <apokryphos> hello
[01:15] <gbw> i am using thunderbird, since i cant use the minimize to tray plugins, i use alltray to dock it, now, is there any app i can use to show me if there is incoming mail?
[01:15] <jmiller565> hi
[01:16] <Joe> Anyone know how to install ubuntu frmo lan?
[01:16] <zspada15> !+w
[01:16] <jmiller565> is there any program for Ubuntu which is like Object dock?
[01:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:16] <apokryphos> !investigate
[01:16] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[01:16] <bimberi> !install | Joe
[01:16] <ubotu> Joe: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[01:17] <[TO] WaxMan|sleep> joe: try this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[01:17] <jmiller565> is there any program for Ubuntu which is like Object dock?
[01:17] <Joe> thnx @both of you.
[01:17] <bimberi> !thanks | Joe
[01:17] <ubotu> Joe: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[01:17] <Joe> :p
[01:17] <GMT-1_AZ> Is there a way to find obsolete files ?
[01:17] <Dimensions> hiya.... i have a Wlan usb 802.11g adapter when i connect its shown in devices but i can't use it what should i do to install it ? ???
[01:18] <conic> http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_pxe_install_server
[01:18] <jmiller565> a real smart bot
[01:18] <mnoir> GMT-1_AZ: in what way are they obsolete?
[01:19] <gbw> i am using thunderbird, since i cant use the minimize to tray plugins, i use alltray to dock it, now, is there any app i can use to show me if there is incoming mail?
[01:19] <Pie-rate> smart AND sexy bot
[01:19] <bimberi> Dimensions: see if there is some help here ...
[01:19] <GMT-1_AZ> orphaned files ? linking to applications that dont exist anymore ?
[01:19] <bimberi> !wifi | Dimensions
[01:19] <ubotu> Dimensions: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:19] <jmiller565> is there any program for Ubuntu which is like Object dock?
[01:19] <GMT-1_AZ> pointing...
[01:19] <Bluhd> What's the service in /etc/init.d/ so I can restart my audio?
[01:20] <htt> is it safe aborting the memorycheck..?
[01:20] <jmiller565> can someone please answer my question please
[01:20] <TheDebugger> alsa i guess
[01:20] <Rug> htt: yup
[01:20] <mnoir> GMT-1_AZ: gtkorphan/deborphan does this
[01:20] <Dimensions> thanks bimberi
[01:20] <malikeye> you don't restart audio... it is a target device
[01:20] <mnoir> for properly installed packages
[01:20] <bimberi> Dimensions: np :)
[01:20] <GMT-1_AZ> mnoir, thanks
[01:20] <Bluhd> malikeye: then why is my audio all of a sudden not working?
[01:21] <malikeye> thre is arts
[01:21] <malikeye> are you using kde ?
[01:21] <Ace2016> Hi all
[01:21] <Bluhd> malikeye: never kde :D
[01:21] <Rug> Ace2016: howdy
[01:21] <Ace2016> anyone know where i can get openoffice 2.1 from a repo for ubuntu?
[01:21] <mnoir> be careful - I think it calls more than necessary orphans
[01:21] <malikeye> did it start to fail after a reboot ?
[01:21] <ubek__> malikeye, u must turn off kde sound system
[01:21] <kitche>  DJGummikuh I only see an option for when a netsplit happnes but not a setting for join and part messages
[01:21] <HymnToLife> Ace2016, google knows...
[01:21] <Ace2016> or is this because of novell putting code in openoffice and now its being delayed or whatever?
[01:22] <ubek__> malikeye, kde is blocking devices ;)
[01:22] <Ace2016> HymnToLife: google doesn't
[01:22] <malikeye> huh ?
[01:22] <HymnToLife> then I would believe there is no
[01:23] <kitche> DJGummikuh: found it you want to know how to turn off the join part messages in irssi?
[01:23] <ubek__> malikeye, just turn off in kde sound system if ure sound does not works
[01:24] <malikeye> ubek__: my sound works fine... trying to help Bluhd
[01:25] <jorge_> hola
[01:25] <Logi> damn, this channel is populous
[01:25] <jorge_> es instalado el kopete en gnome
[01:25] <jorge_> y no lo era tube un proble ma al combinarlos
[01:25] <kitche> !es|jorge_
[01:25] <ubotu> jorge_: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[01:26] <HymnToLife> !es
[01:26] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[01:26] <HymnToLife> pwn3d :(
[01:26] <Bluhd> Heh
[01:26] <Logi> does anyone know of pre-built java 6 packages yet?
[01:26] <Bluhd> Can't wait to get your hands on the GPL java, eh? :D
[01:27] <tannerld> Is there a command to show ports that are opne?
[01:27] <Ardonik> tannerld: nmap localhost, netstat -an, and so forth.
[01:27] <Logi> I'm not too bothered about the license, but I'd like to start playing with the new version in anticipation of moving some projects at work to it for the 20% speed improvement
[01:28] <kitche> Bluhd: java is not GPL the implementation of it is the virtul machine the compiler but the language won't be from what Sun said due to the code that the language has in it
[01:28] <Bluhd> kitche: ah, ok
[01:28] <Logi> afaik javac and the jvm are gpl, but they don't own all the library code
[01:29] <Logi> we'll have to see if they'll replace 3rd party code like they did with openoffice and solaris
[01:29] <Bluhd> wtf?
[01:29] <Logi> of course, there are already os compilers (jikes) and jvms (kaffe), but the library implementations (classpath) have had lots of trouble
[01:29] <LjL> !netsplit
[01:29] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[01:29] <LjL> !traffic
[01:29] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[01:30] <Logi> usually irssi will shield me from that sort of torrent...
[01:31] <kitche> to ignore joins, parts, quits in irssi you would do /ignore #ubuntu +JOINS +PARTS +QUITS
[01:31] <Logi> kitche: thanks
[01:31] <kitche> for the people that use irssi
[01:31] <ubuntu> how can I list the files in a .deb and where they will be installed
[01:31] <houman> hi there, how can i change my apt repos? i think therye down, i wanna select a different mirror
[01:31] <Logi> kitche: it's not usually a problem, but this channel is just too much
[01:31] <LjL> ubuntu: dpkg -S packagename, if the package is already installed
[01:31] <LjL> ubuntulog: if it isn't, try
[01:31] <LjL> Ubotu, tell ubuntu about apt-file | ubuntu, see the private message from Ubotu
[01:31] <Logi> houman: /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:32] <houman> Logi: but there was another command that'd let you sleect the country, i forgot it
[01:32] <Logi> ubotu: or the probably much better advice that the bot has sent you
[01:32] <Logi> houman: or the probably much better advice that the bot has sent you
[01:32] <Asher_Lev> asher needs help :(
[01:32] <aib> thanks
[01:33] <mnoir> the asher should ask a question instead of wasting time
[01:33] <Asher_Lev> every time I try to set up my nvidia drivers I destory my installation.  I need somebody to walk me through it
[01:33] <Asher_Lev> wow
[01:33] <LjL> !traffic
[01:33] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[01:34] <__mikem> LjL, whats going on
[01:34] <somerville32> netsplit :)
[01:34] <Asher_Lev> yucky
[01:34] <LjL> __mikem, you should have received a global notice from the network admins
[01:35] <LjL> the net is having trouble. we may all be disconnected at any time. have fun.
[01:35] <kitche> __mikem: you using what xchat or irssi?
[01:35] <False_Courage> -__mikem- VERSION xchat 2.6.1 Ubuntu
[01:35] <False_Courage> kitche, use CTCP Version
[01:35] <root_> Was there an update that required dist-upgrade in last few weeks?
[01:35] <bruenig> Rookie_, no
[01:35] <bruenig> root_, no
[01:35] <bruenig> sorry Rookie_
[01:35] <kitche> False_Courage: I don't do CTCP's since it's kinda rude
[01:35] <Remy> !dual boot
[01:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dual boot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:36] <Remy> !windows
[01:36] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[01:36] <Remy> nice spam bots...
[01:36] <Remy> !grub
[01:36] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:36] <cafuego_> Remy: No spam bots, netsplit (bug in the irc server)
[01:36] <Remy> ahk
[01:36] <bruenig> this would be a great time to launch an attack, who would know
[01:37] <LjL> !netsplit
[01:37] <Bluhd> What IRC daemon does Freenode use?
[01:37] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[01:37] <LjL> !traffic
[01:37] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[01:37] <somerville32> BlueEagle, dancer
[01:37] <somerville32> Err..
[01:37] <Bluhd> lol
[01:37] <Bluhd> I saw
[01:37] <Rug> !ping
[01:37] <ubotu> 64 bytes from ubotu (10.13.37.1): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=1.33 ms
[01:37] <somerville32> Bluhd, dancer
[01:38] <Remy> hi guys, I have a machine with 4 partitions running win xp, vista and 2k, and I want to install ubuntu onto the 4th.  anything I should know ?
[01:38] <kitche> Bluhd: it says when you connect and it's  huperion not dancer
[01:38] <Rug> Remy: prayer
[01:38] <Remy> lol
[01:38] <frandavid100> hi
[01:38] <Asher_Lev> is anybody a pro at installing nvidia drivers?
[01:38] <stefg> !install | Remy
[01:38] <ubotu> Remy: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[01:38] <Willtre> Is anyone having trouble with the repositories?  I'm trying to download many things and none are working properly
[01:38] <Rug> Asher_Lev: It's easy
[01:38] <lupine_85> Asher_Lev: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[01:39] <lupine_85> et voila
[01:39] <BlackHawk> gn8
[01:39] <Rug> lupine_85: thanks
[01:39] <soothsay> I was asked by Synaptic to do a dist-upgrade to update X11. Now display is messed up (artifacts, can't log graphically)
[01:39] <frandavid100> is there a way to re-add a deleted element to the gnome-panel?
[01:39] <Rug> steal my thunder
[01:39] <lupine_85> :p
[01:39] <lupine_85> you can do the next bit
[01:39] <Rug> =)
[01:40] <Asher_Lev> Lupine_85 what after that?
[01:40] <Rug> Asher_Lev: hit Enter
[01:40] <lupine_85> once they're installed, you have to enable them
[01:40] <lupine_85> s/nv/nvidia in xorg.conf
[01:40] <Asher_Lev> one moment, they're almost downloadeed
[01:41] <Asher_Lev> oh, now its downloading the restricted modules
[01:41] <soothsay> Anybody know off hand how to hide join/parts in Irssi?
[01:41] <LjL> [01:31:25]  <kitche> to ignore joins, parts, quits in irssi you would do /ignore #ubuntu +JOINS +PARTS +QUITS
[01:42] <soothsay> LjL: thanks
[01:42] <Willtre> My repositories aren't working.  Anyone know why?
[01:42] <Asher_Lev> now its unpacking nvidia-glx, and now its setting up linux-image-2.6.15-27.386
[01:43] <Asher_Lev> setting up modules and glx
[01:43] <Asher_Lev> ok
[01:43] <Remy> any known probs with installing ubuntu onto a sata drive?
[01:43] <Asher_Lev> uh oh, it wants me to restart
[01:43] <lupine_85> Remy: no
[01:43] <Asher_Lev> do I restart, or do I enable the drivers first?
[01:43] <notsay> help me
[01:43] <lupine_85> Asher_Lev: enable drivers firsty
[01:43] <mnoir> Asher_Lev: restart  - always after os upg
[01:43] <lupine_85> first*
[01:43] <LjL> !helpme
[01:43] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:43] <notsay> who can helpme
[01:44] <lupine_85> mnoir: this, ahem, isn't windows :p
[01:44] <Asher_Lev> ok, how do I enable?
[01:44] <LjL> !helpme | notsay
[01:44] <ubotu> notsay: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:44] <lupine_85> Asher_Lev: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:44] <lupine_85> change the Device section so that it reads driver "nvidia"
[01:44] <lupine_85> it probably reads driver "nv" right now
[01:44] <Asher_Lev> do I get in with sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[01:44] <notsay> I try to install ubuntu 6.10 from hard driver, but failed
[01:45] <lupine_85> erm, gksudo
[01:45] <lupine_85> apart from that yeah
[01:45] <Asher_Lev> gksudo?
[01:45] <lupine_85> GUI equivalent that's less likely to break your permissions
[01:45] <peanutb> !gksudo
[01:45] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using "sudo <GUI-application>"
[01:45] <Asher_Lev> wow thanks
[01:45] <Arigato> is there any way to improve the evolution junk mail filter? it isn't catching any spam, most of them are pretty obvious.
[01:46] <lupine_85> Arigato: use your own POP/IMAP server with greylisting... :p
[01:46] <notsay> I think Ubuntu'ISO have a mistake when install it from HD
[01:46] <Asher_Lev> so i change nv to nvidia
[01:46] <peanutb> in what way?
[01:47] <Asher_Lev> save and reboot?
[01:47] <lupine_85> Asher_Lev: yep
[01:47] <Asher_Lev> wish me luck
[01:47] <lupine_85> since the kernel's been upgraded I suppose we'd better reboot :_
[01:47] <lupine_85> kexec ftw
[01:47] <notsay> root (hd0,0)/vmlinux root=/dev/ram ramdisk_size=32000 devfs=mount,dall
[01:47] <Asher_Lev> with any luck I'll be back
[01:47] <lupine_85> :)
[01:47] <notsay> initrd (hd0,0)/initrd.gz
[01:48] <notsay> but the install display " the ISO CDROM Read failed" ?  why?
[01:48] <htt> Now istalling ubuntu. Ive gotten to where i should choose disk..   and i need to be sure that no harm will come upon my D drive :)   would anyone care to help me with this section by pm? would be greaty apriciated
[01:48] <lupine_85> htt: just select /dev/hda (or /dev/sda, probably)
[01:48] <notsay> ?
[01:48] <lupine_85> that'll be the primary master, aka. C:
[01:52] (lupine_85/#ubuntu) cafuego_: it's not :)
[01:52] (bruenig/#ubuntu) notsay what is your language?
[01:52] (lupine_85/#ubuntu) checked that earlier
[01:52] (mohadib/#ubuntu) lemonsgc: teh?
[01:52] (cafuego_/#ubuntu) okies :-)
[01:52] (lupine_85/#ubuntu) s'ok, always good to have people looking over your shoulder :p
[01:53] <nailz> lemonsgc should be in your home folder
[01:53] <mohadib> anyone? how to preserve custom boot options?
[01:53] <zspada15> !repeat | mohadib
[01:53] <ubotu> mohadib: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[01:53] <zspada15> !patience | mohadib
[01:53] <ubotu> mohadib: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:53] <lemonsgc> nailz, will check
[01:53] <mohadib> thats sport
[01:53] <mohadib> thanks*
[01:53] <Bepo> I currently have WIndows installed on my desktop, is it possible to still dual boot?
[01:53] <lupine_85> Bepo: yes
[01:53] <mohadib> Bepo: yes
[01:53] <bimberi> !dualboot | bepo, yes you can
[01:53] <ubotu> bepo, yes you can: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[01:54] <nailz> lemonsgc if you did a sudo install it will be hidden
[01:54] <notsay> my language is English
[01:54] <lemonsgc> nailz, of course i did!  just to make my life "fun"
[01:54] <cafuego_> bruenig: a variant of chinese
[01:54] <notsay> my mother language is Chinese.
[01:54] <Bepo> windows has already eaten up my entire drive... does the tutorial tell how to resize the windows partition?
[01:54] <nailz> :p
[01:54] <bruenig> variant hmmm
[01:54] <lupine_85> Bepo: the live cd can resize the partition for you
[01:54] <lemonsgc> nailz, would chmod/chown-ing it allow me to run et as non sudo?
[01:55] <lupine_85> IME it's not very reliable though, so I would resize it first
[01:55] <cafuego_> bruenig: Can't tell if it's mandarin or cantonese from the IP
[01:55] <notsay> nobody install Ubuntu from Hard Driver?!
[01:55] <nailz> lemonsgc I dont know enough to say, sry mate
[01:55] <linuxreign> here is my question, is it possible to install the latest NVIDIA drivers when you already installed the GLX thingy?
[01:55] <lupine_85> !nvidiabeta
[01:55] <ubotu> For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9629 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable
[01:55] <lupine_85> it's actually 9631
[01:55] <cafuego_> Bepo: It should ... it's not hard anyway. But first you must make *SURE* to defrag windows and run the disk checker. And have free space on Windows.
[01:56] <lemonsgc> how can i what layer windows are opened into?  currently the open behind eveything else...
[01:56] <lemonsgc> nailz, thanks a lot!
[01:56] <linuxreign> thx!
[01:56] <Bepo> ah ok defragging righ tnow
[01:56] <lemonsgc> nailz, ill give the chown a whirl
[01:56] <notsay> hi
[01:56] <jw_606> Hello
[01:57] <Bepo> cafuego_: can you PM me I dont want to screw this up
[01:57] <nailz> lemonsgc good luck
[01:57] <nailz> nn all
[01:57] <cafuego_> Bepo: sorry
[01:57] <lemonsgc> nailz, thanks again
[01:57] <jw_606> How do I configure my logitech G5 mouse so it does not have 3 button emulation? My middle mouse button works as a third button but so does pressing the left & right mouse buttons and I would like to remove that function
[01:57] <Bepo> can anyone do a walkthrough install with me?
[01:57] <mbutUbuntu> hi everyone
[01:58] <mbutUbuntu> I have a problem
[01:58] <cafuego_> jw_606: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[01:58] <zspada15> Bepo, no, but we'll help you
[01:58] <Bepo> ah ok.
[01:58] <mbutUbuntu> I have 2 computer
[01:58] <mbutUbuntu> Linux and windows
[01:58] <mbutUbuntu> both connected to internet
[01:58] <Bepo> looks like my HP created 2 partitions already
[01:58] <lemonsgc> how can i "where" windows are opened into?  currently the open behind eveything else...
[01:58] <lupine_85> seriously. ntfsresize is unreliable. Use partition magic if you can
[01:58] <mbutUbuntu> but windows uses interner throug Linux
[01:59] <lemonsgc> how can i change "where" windows are opened into?  currently the open behind eveything else...  9fixed typo)
[01:59] <lupine_85> Bepo: is one a restore partition?
[01:59] <mbutUbuntu> so my linux box is a "gateway"
[01:59] <kitche> Bepo: the second partition is for the recovery partition
[01:59] <mbutUbuntu> I need to limit the bandwidth
[01:59] <Bepo> one for FAT32 5gig restore and one NTFS 227 gig for windows
[01:59] <mbutUbuntu> leaving more velocity to my linux box
[01:59] <mbutUbuntu> how I can do this??
[01:59] <Bepo> says I dont need to defrag
[02:00] <Bepo> its a fresh install... i screwed up my sys last time hahahaa
[02:00] <lupine_85> mbutUbuntu: lots of apps will do it. Personally, I'd QoS on the source IP
[02:00] <mbutUbuntu> the name is QoS
[02:01] <linuxreign> ok, i already added the repository to adetp, next question and sorry for my noobness, how do I install that driver?
[02:01] <lupine_85> no, that's the technique (quality of service)
[02:01] <mbutUbuntu> I find it with synaptic??
[02:01] <Bepo> shall i continue with defrag or no?
[02:01] <notsay> no
[02:01] <Bepo> ok
[02:02] <zspada15> @chuck
[02:02] <linuxreign> guys?. how I install the NIVIDIA driver, remember that the GLX its installed
[02:04] <lupine_85> linuxreign: ^ I already told you how
[02:05] <Odysseus> Am I able to do an encrypted file-system, including Swap, Root, and Home, WITH Reiser4? Specifically, from the following guide? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystem - Edgy Eft.
[02:06] <Odysseus> Or is there a better way? I keep hearing some plugin for Raiser4 encryption, though I'm unable to find any guide for it.
[02:07] <Odysseus> Uhuh, that all sounds lovely..?
[02:09] <lemonsCC> !patience | Odysseus
[02:09] <ubotu> Odysseus: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:09] <Meidos> I am having a problem finding my network card (eth0) after upgradring to 6.06 and then 6.10. Network card wasn't properly found in either version - lspci shows: "00:05.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation CK8S Ethernet Controller (rev a2)"
[02:13] <Bepo> It had a Resixe SCS|1 (0,0,0) partition 2 (SDA) and used free space
[02:13] <Bepo> was that corrrect?
[02:14] <Bepo> Again I have a XP currently installed a FAT32 5gig recovery, and a222 gig NTSF for windows
[02:15] <Bepo> Guys is that correct?
[02:16] <Odysseus> On another note, does anyone know if you/I can format Micro SD cards for bootup?Further, is 64mb well/good enough to have an unencrypted removable drive? [LIke a USB drive basically?] 
[02:16] <lupine_85> Odysseus: yeah, no problems there
[02:16] <lupine_85> as long as your BIOS supports it you're good to go
[02:16] <Bepo> lupine_85: did I make a correct choice?
[02:16] <Odysseus> Nice.
[02:17] <lupine_85> Bepo: no idea. You should have resized the NTFS one.
[02:17] <Bepo> ah so do it manually?
[02:17] <Odysseus> So, again, can I use Rieser4 with AES encrpytion, etc?
[02:18] <Meidos> Anyone got any idea why my network card  "00:05.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation CK8S Ethernet Controller (rev a2)" isnt showing as eth0?
[02:18] <aib> i don't think this apt-file program does what i need. i have the .deb for trac, how can I see the files that are in it?
[02:18] <Odysseus> I'm going to use it for bragging rights of course.
[02:18] <bruenig> let's say I wanted to block all ips 38.100.2* how could I do that. Do i need to edit the /etc/hosts.deny file and what is the syntax there
[02:18] <neurotech> Is there a music player that supports global hotkeys?
[02:18] <lupine_85> bruenig: you could use iptables
[02:19] <lupine_85> neurotech: amarok likes my net keyboard with it's play and pause and volume control etc. buttons
[02:19] <Meidos> neurotech: I don't think so, but most WMs let you configure global keys
[02:20] <lupine_85> !firestarter | bruenig
[02:20] <ubotu> bruenig: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[02:20] <wy> Why doesn't Acrobat reader work with edgy? I applied a patch but it doesn't work either
[02:20] <bruenig> firestarter doesn't let me block ips
[02:20] <lupine_85> wy: it does
[02:20] <lupine_85> bruenig: it's that useless? wow.
[02:21] <bruenig> it gives me allow connections from host
[02:21] <bruenig> so I can tell it who to allow
[02:21] <lupine_85> ah, that's right. the default is to drop
[02:21] <neurotech> Rhythmbox is what i'm using atm... it doesnt seem to respond to some of the KB shortcuts I define in GNOME
[02:21] <voidmage> When I run lirc and then irw, lircd crashes. I'm using a mceusb2 remote and running lircd as root
[02:21] <voidmage> strace has write(2, "lircd: can\'t open or create /var"..., 47lircd: can't open or create /var/run/lircd.pid
[02:21] <bruenig> the problem is this stupid a-hole who is either intentionally running down the torrent I am trying to download
[02:21] <lupine_85> so you'd then add a rule to allow all on $port, then another rule further down to deny $ip on $port
[02:21] <voidmage> open("/var/run/lircd.pid", O_RDWR|O_CREAT, 0644) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
[02:22] <voidmage> (that line comes before)
[02:22] <bruenig> 38.100.2* I have like 50 connections with an ip like that and it isn't sharing anything
[02:22] <aib> i got it, you have to use dpkg -c
[02:22] <voidmage> any ideas?
[02:22] <lupine_85> voidmage: sudo whatever it is?
[02:22] <voidmage> Yeah
[02:22] <voidmage> I'm running it as root
[02:22] <lupine_85> or create that file for ity
[02:22] <bruenig> I am trying to figure out how to eliminate him
[02:22] <lupine_85> it*
[02:22] <voidmage> Still get that
[02:22] <florg> hi folks, has anybody ever got 'wallpaper-tray' running?
[02:22] <lupine_85> bruenig: most torrent apps let you blacklist a given client
[02:22] <lupine_85> I know ktorrent does
[02:23] <bruenig> utorrent
[02:23] <neuratix> how can i make alt-gr work in xgl?
[02:23] <MVarrieur> Hey everyone
[02:23] <neuratix> hello
[02:24] <bruenig> I know how to do it in azureus, but I don't really want to run that. I guess I will just suck it up. The guy is feeding me garbage too. I have 50 MB of hashfails out of 350 MB downloaded
[02:24] <wy> lupine_85: Which version are you using?
[02:25] <zspada15> bruenig, block him
[02:25] <bruenig> how
[02:25] <bruenig> I was trying to fiddle with /etc/hosts.deny but I am not sure how to do that or if it would even work
[02:26] <Bepo> OK guys went into Ubuntu install to do manual resize of my NTSF but it just kicks out and doesnt actually resize it. ANy ideas?
[02:26] <lupine_85> !info acroread edgy
[02:26] <ubotu> acroread: Adobe Acrobat Reader: Portable Document Format file viewer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.8-0.0.ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 22368 kB, installed size 54692 kB (Only available for i386)
[02:26] <lupine_85> wy: that one
[02:26] <lupine_85> normally I use kpdf though
[02:27] <Stormx2> Bepo: Does that with me. Go get the GParted LiveCD. use that.
[02:27] <MVarrieur> Okay I haven't used ubuntu since 5.10, and mostly it's been just plug and play, i decided to dual boot linux yet again and put 6.10 on, and I cannot get it to work with Windows XP Internet Connection Sharing for the life of me, even directly connected to the router I can't get the internet to work, I get an IP and then that's it, no pinging, no websites, etc.
[02:29] <lupine_85> MVarrieur: is the default gateway set appropriately?
[02:29] <MVarrieur> ya, all the settings are right, i've tried it with DHCP and Static
[02:29] <Meidos> Seems my eth0 now is eth3 - any way of changing this?
[02:29] <mbutUbuntu> goodnight
[02:29] <mbutUbuntu> I go away
[02:29] <MVarrieur> g'night
[02:31] <Stormx2> *sigh* Everyone who helps out, you do a great job heh :P This channel rocks.
[02:31] <zspada15> Stormx2, thanks
[02:32] <Stormx2> Its almost christmas heh...
[02:32] <Stormx2> And I hate this season xD Anyway
[02:32] <Stormx2> MVarrieur: Can you ping your gateway?
[02:32] <Stormx2> MVarrieur: And whats this about connection sharing with windows?
[02:32] <MVarrieur> Nope, I can't ping the gateway or any of the local hosts
[02:32] <MVarrieur> I've tried it using connection sharing with a crossover cable, as well as using a wireless gaming adapter directly to my router
[02:33] <MVarrieur> It gets an IP either route I go down, it doesn't go any further
[02:33] <neuratix> !xgl
[02:33] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:33] <obgynot> how do I play an mp3 on the command-line?
[02:33] <Stormx2> Explain how the sharing works. Are you connecting to a windows machine, which connects to your router? or right into your router?
[02:33] <Stormx2> obgynot: mplayer can do that... i think
[02:34] <obgynot> there used to be mpeg123 or 321 or something
[02:34] <obgynot> but I don't see it in apt-get
[02:34] <Stormx2> obgynot: mpg123 I think
[02:34] <MVarrieur> Stormx2: I've tried both ways that you just described.
[02:34] <lemonsCC> adios
[02:34] <lemonsCC> !bye
[02:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bye - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:35] <Stormx2> !info mpg123
[02:35] <ubotu> mpg123: MPEG layer 1/2/3 audio player. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.60-3 (edgy), package size 129 kB, installed size 324 kB (Only available for i386 alpha powerpc m68k arm sparc hppa)
[02:35] <obgynot> Stormx2: yes, mpg123 was it.  apt changed it to mpg321, but I think it will work out
[02:35] <wy> lupine_85: 7.0.8-1? with the patch?
[02:35] <Stormx2> obgynot: No, there are two packages
[02:35] <farion> hello, I cant mount things (cards, disks, cds) with kde or gnome
[02:35] <Stormx2> obgynot: One is the original ugly one, and 321 is the free alternative ;-)
[02:36] <obgynot> mpg321 is working... I now hear "O Canada", thanks.
[02:36] <Stormx2> farion: CDs etc should be auto-mounted?
[02:36] <Stormx2> Hahaha
[02:36] <Stormx2> Aww man
[02:36] <oredownik> siema
[02:36] <oredownik> co tam slychac
[02:36] <Stormx2> Apples in Stereo for me. OiNK has lifted all ration requirements, I'm downloading like a pig. A lot of other people are too...
[02:36] <obgynot> the good news is my sound works
[02:37] <Stormx2> this place practicly closes down at night
[02:37] <Stormx2> !pl
[02:37] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[02:37] <wy> lupine_85: I see... Ubuntu has a acroread package!
[02:37] <farion> media:/ in konqueror shows all available devices, but by clicking on a device kde means "hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000"
[02:38] <Stormx2> farion: Odd. Perhaps you should post the error on ubuntuforums.org, as well as any kind of unusual modifications you may have made
[02:39] <MVarrieur> Stormx2: Oh and I've also blacklisted ipv6 from advice on the forums, didn't seem like it did anything except remove the ipv6 functionality, but still having the same problem.
[02:39] <farion> no modifications, clean feisty herd1 installation (on three machines)
[02:40] <Stormx2> farion: You do realise feisty is completely... like... screwed?
[02:40] <Stormx2> xD
[02:40] <x-r00t-x> can anyone tell me how do i unzip a file from terminal?
[02:40] <obgynot> apt-get install mplayer - says there's no installation candidate (6.10)... ?
[02:40] <Stormx2> x-r00t-x: "unzip"
[02:40] <farion> ye, but its the only one with jmicron-support during installation
[02:40] <Stormx2> !info mplayer
[02:40] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre8-0ubuntu8 (edgy), package size 3461 kB, installed size 8624 kB
[02:41] <obgynot> I enabled universe and multiverse and did apt-get update...
[02:41] <x-r00t-x> tnx stoffepojken
[02:41] <lupine_85> farion: make a bug report and see if it gets fixed :p
[02:41] <x-r00t-x> storkme,
[02:41] <storkme> ?
[02:41] <Stormx2> farion: Ask in #ubuntu+1
[02:41] <Stormx2> obgynot: Odd. Sure you got the right repos and stuff?
[02:41] <lupine_85> or use the feistykernel in edgy
[02:42] <farion> oh thx
[02:42] <storkme> i think there's something seriously wrong with my ubuntu user home... Could not chdir to home directory /home/derek: Permission denied
[02:42] <storkme> -sh: /home/derek/.profile: Permission denied
[02:42] <Stormx2> storkme: Eek!
[02:42] <Stormx2> storkme: Please do "whoami"
[02:42] <storkme> that works
[02:42] <Stormx2> what does it give? derek?
[02:42] <obgynot> Stormx2: I think so; it's a brand-new, standard installation, kubuntu though, if that matters
[02:43] <storkme> yeah, Stormx2, derek
[02:43] <Stormx2> obgynot: Shouldn't. Would you mind pastebining your sources.list?
[02:43] <Stormx2> storkme: Is your /home mounted on another partition by chance?
[02:43] <storkme> Stormx2, yeah
[02:44] <obgynot> Stormx2: stand by, it's on a different machine
[02:44] <storkme> but another users home works fine (alex)
[02:44] <carlos> can someone help me
[02:44] <Stormx2> storkme: It could be that it was incorrectly mounted, not mounted at all, or mounted as root readable only
[02:44] <carlos> with DVD playback in ubuntu
[02:44] <Stormx2> !dvd
[02:44] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:45] <storkme> Stormx2, can't be that, it works fine for my other user
[02:45] <vejan> good evening all
[02:45] <Stormx2> storkme: Thats odd...
[02:45] <Stormx2> Good... uh... night vejan (1:45am here...)
[02:45] <lastent> hi i get this error when i ./configure
[02:45] <lastent> configure: error: cannot find output from lex; giving up
[02:45] <Stormx2> storkme: Could you please cd to /home, can you do that?
[02:46] <lastent> checking lex output file root... ./configure: 1: lex: not found
[02:46] <Stormx2> lastent: Looks like you need "lex". What are you compiling?
[02:46] <storkme> Stormx2, yeah, can do that
[02:46] <lastent> cause that package is not in the repositories
[02:46] <voraistos> Hey guys... I just found something horrible... Hopefully in china Google censores that kind of stuff. I wanted to have 2 hard drives in one (linux) partition, so i type in google:" linux 2 hd in one partition ". Look by yourself....
[02:46] <storkme> Stormx2, ls -l shows: drw-r--r-- 4 derek root     4096 2006-12-21 23:17 derek
[02:46] <Odysseus> Am I able to do an encrypted file-system, including Swap, Root, and Home, WITH Reiser4? Specifically, from the following guide? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystem - Edgy Eft.
[02:47] <lastent> Stormx2, is lex in the repositories?
[02:47] <we2by> how can I make it posible to use alsa instead of esd in edgy?
[02:47] <Stormx2> we2by: System > Preferences > Sound
[02:47] <voraistos> edgy uses alsa . default i mean
[02:48] <we2by> I only see esd
[02:48] <voraistos> maybe your card is not supported by alsa ?
[02:48] <Stormx2> lastent: Check yourself in synaptic. You'll need the -dev package for compiling. I trust you're sure the software you're compiling is not in the repos?
[02:48] <we2by> but alsamixer can controle the volume
[02:48] <we2by> oh no, it is dapper
[02:49] <jmiller565> hi
[02:49] <vejan> why can't I ftp into my ubuntu server from my XP computer?I got the ftp server running !
[02:49] <voraistos> you mean on the same machine, it worked with dapper and not edgy ?
[02:49] <voraistos> vejan: trash the XP computer. Or just the OS maybe.
[02:49] <Stormx2> vejan: Can you ping your ubuntu machine?
[02:50] <Stormx2> voraistos: WOH!!
[02:50] <vejan> yes
[02:50] <Stormx2> vejan: Have you followed the guide on proftpd?
[02:50] <voraistos> vejan seriously are you sureof the IP and the port the ftp server is running on ?
[02:50] <Stormx2> FTP Runs on Port 21
[02:51] <obgynot> Stormx2: ok, I
[02:51] <obgynot> Stormx2: I have my sources.list here... how do I paste it?
[02:51] <bradley> i have to burn a video for someone that uses a mac, it is saved as an ogg. can osX open oggs? should i change it to an avi? how?
[02:51] <Stormx2> I'm only staying on for 8 more minutes. I'm going to try and sleep again
[02:51] <carlos> whats the best route to run wow in ubuntu?
[02:51] <Music_Shuffle> again?
[02:51] <obgynot> I am using XChat, a little new to IRC
[02:51] <Stormx2> obgynot: Go to a pastebin
[02:51] <jmiller565> is eyeCandy a Desktop animation for Ubuntu?
[02:51] <Stormx2> !pastebin
[02:51] <vejan> i'm using fillzilla to ftp into the server and i put port 21
[02:51] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:51] <Stormx2> !games | carlos
[02:51] <storkme> Stormx2, the more curious part is that root can see all the files and they look fine
[02:51] <ubotu> carlos: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[02:51] <Ropechoborra> !codecs
[02:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:52] <jmiller565> thanx
[02:52] <Stormx2> storkme: Judging by that ls -l output, your home partition is either owned by root or is in the group root...
[02:52] <Stormx2> storkme: let me check what mine is...
[02:52] <storkme> Stormx2, hmm, i got it working by making root do +x on the directory
[02:52] <Lone> how do i uninstall ubuntu and whipe my drives?
[02:52] <Stormx2> storkme: I assume your user is a sudoer, etc?
[02:52] <storkme> yeah
[02:52] <vejan> i've tried aynomous and my signin and password- both don't work
[02:53] <vejan> and I did put in port 21
[02:53] <Stormx2> Lone: Properly wipe em? Not sure... there are bootable disklettes which will do that
[02:53] <Stormx2> Lone: You selling the computer / HDDs?
[02:53] <Stormx2> vejan: Have you followed a HOWTO?
[02:53] <obgynot> !pastebin
[02:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:53] <voraistos> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314458
[02:54] <voraistos> bug report from Microsoft calle linux
[02:54] <MVarrieur> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79588 - ProFTPd howto
[02:54] <voraistos> Lone that was for u :)
[02:54] <vejan> just remembered I changed some settings in the conf. file
[02:55] <vejan> maybe i did something wrong there
[02:55] <vejan> on the server
[02:55] <voraistos> vejan: i would rcommand to check the firewall settings, and the ftpserver's man page
[02:55] <Stormx2> Right. Im going to try and sleep again
[02:55] <vejan> i don't have a firewall running on the server yet
[02:56] <Stormx2> Merry Christmas everyone. And remember that 99% of ubuntu problems can be overcome :)
[02:56] <MVarrieur> G'night Storm
[02:56] <tkm625> what about the other 1%?
[02:56] <voraistos> vejan: i think you do :)
[02:56] <vejan> ah
[02:56] <Stormx2> tkm625: Well thats when people ask
[02:56] <obgynot> Stormx2: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38302/
[02:56] <scoates> hi. I have a filesystem (my ipod) that's mounted "rw" (so says mount) and files show up as permission 700, but when I try to rm any file, I get (e.g.) "rm: cannot remove `a52.codec': Read-only file system" .. any ideas?
[02:56] <Stormx2> "lolu buntu dsnt wrrrrkkkk!11onehundredandeleven11"
[02:57] <we2by> I can't get my 5.1 sound system to work :(
[02:57] <Stormx2> scoates: Can you directly access the iPod filesystem?
[02:57] <voraistos> vejan its kinda included into linux, but the package you installed should have set it up for you :)
[02:57] <scoates> Stormx2: yes, normally
[02:57] <Stormx2> scoates: Well I'm not sure. I don't have an iPod
[02:58] <Stormx2> obgynot: I'm afraid I'm going to havr to go before looking at that
[02:58] <vejan> i just install the ubuntu server cd that I burned
[02:58] <scoates> Stormx2: ipod aside, why would it think it's a ro filesystem when it's mounted rw ?
[02:58] <Stormx2> I don't know, sorry
[02:58] <obgynot> Stormx2: thanks anyway
[02:58] <scoates> voraistos: it does with rockbox, which is what got me into this mess
[02:58] <Stormx2> obgynot, scoates: If you haven't already, get an account on ubuntuforums.org and post a topic with your problems!
[02:58] <scoates> ok, thanks
[02:59] <Stormx2> Now I don't want to miss the news and i gotta sleep. Merry xmas!
[02:59] <Music_Shuffle> You too.
[02:59] <lupine_85> hmm. so how can I have the amd64 linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic and the i386 linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic installed in the same /boot without major clobberage?
[02:59] <scoates> was hoping someone would be able to tell me why I'm being dumb (-:
[02:59] <MVarrieur> Has anyone else had the problem where edgy can get an ip but do nothing else (with all the static settings correct, or using DHCP)
[02:59] <Stormx2> scoates: You're not dumb.
[02:59] <voraistos> scoates : You mean you can hack into an ipod and make i support something else than the apple codecs ? didnt know that. :o
[02:59] <Stormx2> scoates: Think positive
[02:59] <vejan> i just read the linux kernel includes the Netfilter subsystem
[02:59] <kitche> vejan: yes it's called iptable
[02:59] <scoates> Stormx2: well, I know.. but I'm probably just doing something dumb (-: anyway; thanks.
[03:00] <scoates> voraistos: rockbox.org  but beware.. mine's messed up right now (-:
[03:00] <voraistos> scoates: ill check that out :P
[03:02] <Bepo> could someone please give some guidance on resizing my ntsf for Ubuntu install?
[03:03] <Bepo> ntfs*
[03:03] <MVarrieur> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[03:03] <MVarrieur> use that
[03:03] <asher> my installation of nvidia drivers was a total success...
[03:03] <lupine_85> Bepo: use partition magic
[03:03] <lupine_85> ntfsresize is unreliable IME
[03:03] <asher> now I've apt-get installed compiz
[03:03] <voidmage> I'm trying to install lirc and i'm at the part where i test it with irw
[03:03] <asher> do I have to do anything other than restart X for it to work?
[03:04] <voidmage> And every time i run irw it crashes taking lircd with it
[03:04] <schisms> Beryl > Compiz.
[03:04] <asher> beryl?
[03:04] <schisms> Beryl is a fork of compiz.
[03:05] <schisms> It's buggy but it's easier to install.
[03:05] <schisms> And easier on the graphics card and cpu.
[03:05] <asher> I'd rather work harder for stability
[03:05] <carlos> in MPlayer when i say open cd....i get a FATAL ERROR...it says "Error opening/initializing the selected video_out(-vo) device."
[03:05] <carlos> whats that mean
[03:05] <schisms> Beryl is also much more customizable.
[03:05] <lupine_85> beryl isn't much buggier than compiz
[03:05] <lupine_85> if at all, really
[03:05] <schisms> carlos, try using gxine.
[03:06] <asher> okay
[03:06] <Ardonik> carlos: It means that you should choose another device.
[03:06] <asher> I'll try it
[03:06] <lupine_85> certainly twinview is much more stable
[03:06] <schisms> That's what I always though.
[03:06] <asher> should I remove compiz?
[03:06] <jpablo> hola alguien q hable espaol?
[03:06] <Ardonik> carlos: man mplayer points out that you can use -vo help to list available devices.  Try one.
[03:06] <carlos> where do i download gxine/
[03:06] <lupine_85> asher: they can co-exist
[03:06] <asher> ooh
[03:06] <lupine_85> then you can try them out for yourself and come to your own conclusions :p
[03:06] <schisms> Does it ruin your performance?
[03:06] <schisms> If no, they try it.
[03:06] <lupine_85> beryl-manager lets you switch to compiz if you want to
[03:06] <lupine_85> schisms: not incredibly
[03:06] <asher> I've done nothing but get install compiz
[03:06] <asher> what should I do now?
[03:07] <lupine_85> some slowdown if you're playing 3D games
[03:07] <lupine_85> see http://wiki.beryl-project.org
[03:07] <obgynot> I can get sound with mpg321, but not with frozen-bubble
[03:07] <lupine_85> it's got a full installation guide
[03:07] <schisms> Well, that's an obvious problem.
[03:07] <obgynot> I get errors about no ALSA device found
[03:07] <lupine_85> it's easy to switch off if you need to though, again thanks for beryl-manager :)
[03:07] <asher> ill try something
[03:07] <lupine_85> there's an update to 0.1.4 coming in a few days which will make beryl even better (xmas edition)
[03:07] <obgynot> [SDL Init]  ALSA lib confmisc.c:670:(snd_func_card_driver) cannot find card '0'
[03:07] <obgynot> ALSA lib conf.c:3479:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_driver returned error: No such device
[03:07] <schisms> Lupine, have you tried kiba dock?
[03:07] <Bepo> lupine_: partition magic
[03:08] <lupine_85> yeah
[03:08] <lupine_85> wasn't too impressed
[03:08] <schisms> Me neither.
[03:08] <lupine_85> Bep: ntfsresize has killed at least 3 NTFS partitions I know of
[03:08] <schisms> If ubuntu came with a dock like dreamlinux I'd be in love.
[03:08] <lupine_85> so I recommend you use partition magic instead
[03:08] <lupine_85> still, it's up to you
[03:08] <Bepo> lupine_85: yikes... is parition magic run in windows?
[03:09] <we2by> I give up
[03:09] <Bepo> lupine_85: and you have to pay for it?
[03:09] <lupine_85> Bepo: yeah,  it's a windows app
[03:09] <lupine_85> no idea if it costs
[03:09] <jvai_> is it possible to use gparted to make a cd of an xp partition? & to use that cd as a reinstall?
[03:09] <lupine_85> but the guys who wrote partition magic had access to the NTFS specs - unlike the guys who wrote ntfsresize
[03:10] <Bepo> ah ok... maybe i can find a trial or demo somewhere
[03:10] <sheri> how do i update from Dapper to Edgy Eft
[03:10] <zspada15> lupine_85, he didnt use them very well then
[03:10] <schisms> sudo apt-get distro update I think
[03:10] <schisms> *distro upgrade
[03:11] <zspada15> !upgrade | sheri
[03:11] <ubotu> sheri: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:11] <jvai_> hello all: is it possible to use gparted to make a cd of an xp partition? & to use that cd as a reinstall?
[03:11] <lupine_85> zspada15: maybe
[03:11] <carlos> where do i got to try out gxine?
[03:11] <kohr_> yo
[03:11] <userundefine> jvai_, Don't think so.
[03:11] <kohr_> trying to set up azuresu
[03:11] <zspada15> lupine_85, it messed up my ntfs partiition severely
[03:11] <kohr_> azureus
[03:11] <xabbott> carlos: apt-get gxine ?
[03:11] <kohr_> and it says its firewalled
[03:12] <lupine_85> zspada15: then maybe it's just NTFS's crappiness in general
[03:12] <kohr_> even though i punched a whole through my router
[03:12] <Bepo> zspada15: what killed your ntsf?
[03:12] <kohr_> for the traffic
[03:12] <zspada15> Bepo, partition magic
[03:12] <jvai_> gparted can copy a ntfs partition, cant i burn that copy to cd/dvd?
[03:12] <Bepo> awww crap... then what should i use then??
[03:12] <Bepo> lol
[03:13] <ctford> bepo: I found gparted to be pretty good
[03:13] <Bepo> free?
[03:13] <kohr_> yes
[03:13] <ctford> yep
[03:13] <kohr_> its installed automaticly
[03:13] <kohr_> included
[03:13] <kohr_> iirc
[03:13] <Bepo> is part of LIVE CD?
[03:13] <kohr_> yes
[03:14] <Bepo> UBuntu live cd
[03:14] <Bepo> aw so it starts at Install correct?
[03:14] <Bepo> I tried using that
[03:14] <kohr_> no
[03:14] <Bepo> oh
[03:14] <kohr_> it won;t start
[03:14] <kohr_> oh
[03:14] <kohr_> the cd
[03:14] <kohr_> or gparted?
[03:14] <Bepo> how do i get it started from the cd?
[03:14] <Bepo> gparted
[03:14] <kohr_> change your bios
[03:14] <kohr_> og
[03:14] <kohr_> go to a terminal
[03:14] <kohr_> and type gparted
[03:14] <Bepo> hold on going there now
[03:15] <kohr_> ...
[03:15] <Bepo> ok I'm there
[03:15] <dabaR> Im here
[03:15] <kohr_> where?] 
[03:15] <SurfnKid> hi
[03:15] <Bepo> Gparted
[03:15] <kohr_> hi
[03:15] <kohr_> ok
[03:16] <kohr_> what did you want to do anyway?
[03:16] <SurfnKid> how can i prevent a folder from creating itself on a drive?
[03:16] <kohr_> folders can't create themselves
[03:16] <lupine_85> SurfnKid: which directory?
[03:16] <SurfnKid> no i mean
[03:16] <kohr_> they are created
[03:16] <kohr_> by something else
[03:16] <Bepo> I see 2 partitions one fat32 5 gig recovery, and one ntfs 227.41gb for windows
[03:16] <kohr_> something ... beyond
[03:16] <SurfnKid> I dont want an OS to create specific folders, like "System Information Folder"
[03:16] <Bepo> i need to shrink the ntfs to install ubuntu
[03:16] <kohr_> holy
[03:16] <kohr_> thats huge
[03:16] <kohr_> 227 gigs
[03:16] <Mercury_> giving birth to edgy as we speak
[03:17] <Bepo> lol... how can i shrink it in gparted?
[03:17] <lupine_85> SurfnKid: that's Windows
[03:17] <kohr_> your e-peni is extreamly... anyway, i belive you can
[03:17] <cllamb1x> hey, what is the taskbar/menu system called? it crashed, and i killed it, and want to restart it
[03:17] <Music_Shuffle> gnome-panel?
[03:17] <cllamb1x> not gnome-panel, is it?
[03:17] <ctford> bepo: so you've tried using the partitioner that runs during the ubuntu install?
[03:17] <cllamb1x> i tried that, it says it was still running, lol
[03:17] <Music_Shuffle> I thought so. ./shrug.
[03:17] <SurfnKid> lupine_85, its root of a usb drive, I plug it in Win and creates REcycled SIF and all thsoe, but I want to prohibit that from happening, I thought I could set something up thru linux to not let that happen
[03:17] <kohr_> oh
[03:17] <Music_Shuffle> Might need to killall it first.
[03:17] <kohr_> bepo
[03:17] <lupine_85> SurfnKid: linux can't control what windows does with the disc
[03:17] <cllamb1x> Music_Shuffle: alrighty then, just wanted o try without that lol
[03:18] <lupine_85> it's not even a linux FS
[03:18] <Music_Shuffle> lol
[03:18] <SurfnKid> right
[03:18] <Bepo> yeah i have
[03:18] <Bepo> its just jumps back out
[03:18] <kohr_> you backed up
[03:18] <kohr_> right?
[03:18] <Bepo> doesnt actually do anything
[03:18] <Crane> hello
[03:18] <Bepo> when I try to resize it
[03:18] <Crane> Hello
[03:18] <Crane> I have a server question
[03:18] <kohr_> hi crane
[03:18] <Crane> :)
[03:18] <kohr_> can't help you, sorry
[03:18] <Crane> dang
[03:18] <Bepo> so what to do now?
[03:18] <kohr_> so
[03:19] <dabaR> you could have helped by not sending that message...
[03:19] <kohr_> you found where to resie it
[03:19] <userundefine> ask anyway, crane
[03:19] <ctford> bepo: if you want to resize partitions, you have to make sure they're not mounted
[03:19] <SurfnKid> lupine_85, thanks then :)
[03:19] <kohr_> oh
[03:19] <joli> hi there!
[03:19] <Bepo> now how do i unmount it :/
[03:19] <ctford> bepo: then you should be able to just right click and go to "resize/move"
[03:19] <voraistos> bepo: or you could use LVM ...
[03:19] <kohr_> ok
[03:19] <kohr_> bye now
[03:19] <wims> is it possible to get google earth through apt  ?
[03:19] <Bepo> ctford: yeah i did but when I do it doesn apply it
[03:19] <Crane> I just got an answer from another channel.
[03:20] <SurfnKid> lupine_85, its not NTFS its FAT32 or FAT16
[03:20] <Crane> I'm doing a server install. But not sure if I want to install LAMP
[03:20] <ctford> bepo: sorry, i should keep the technical jargon down... if the windows partition has a lock next to it, right click and go unmount
[03:20] <voraistos> wims: it could be on the backport repos
[03:20] <jvai_> wims, yes it's in spt, well, it's in synaptic
[03:20] <wims> cheers
[03:20] <joli> i have the package vim-common instaled, but no vimtutor. In packages.ubuntu.com it says that instaling vim-common will have vimtutor
[03:20] <ctford> bepo: essentially, if a drive is in use, you can't resize it
[03:20] <joli> any ideas?
[03:21] <khasim> hi
[03:21] <Bepo> oh ic.... so how shall i go about this? how do I unmount it to resize it?
[03:21] <voraistos> wims: but i am not sure... just get it on the google website, this one should work :)
[03:21] <ctford> bepo: if the lock isn't there, you should be able to just do "resize/move", so long as you have enough free space to shrink it
[03:21] <Bepo> no lock
[03:21] <ctford> then it's probably not mounted :)
[03:22] <ctford> so forget i confused you with all this mounting talk...
[03:22] <Bepo> ah ok
[03:22] <ctford> bepo: so no lock, but when you go into resizing, it just fails to work?
[03:22] <dabaR> wims: http://au.ubuntu.cafuego.net/pool/edgy-cafuego/google/googleearth_4.0.2091-1cafuego3_i386.deb
[03:22] <dabaR> wims: this is nowhere nearly officially supported.
[03:23] <Bepo> yeah so when I try to do resize all it does is show what I want to apply
[03:23] <Bepo> shows a progress screeen
[03:23] <dabaR> !lamp > Crane
[03:23] <Shocka311> hey people, where can I get some anti virus software for ubuntu
[03:23] <dabaR> Shocka311: do you haev a virus?
[03:23] <Shocka311> I don't know, I hope not. I don't know how to check
[03:23] <BlueEagle> somerville32: Did you want something?
[03:24] <Bepo> then it says applying pending options then jumps back to the same screen
[03:24] <userundefine> Shocka311, viruses don't really affect Linux
[03:24] <Bepo> did nothing at all
[03:24] <ctford> after you're happy with the resizing, you have to click the "apply" button to actually get it to happen
[03:24] <somerville32> BlueEagle: Nope. ;] 
[03:24] <Bepo> I didi
[03:24] <ctford> hmm
[03:24] <dabaR> install only through synaptic/apt, and you will not get a virus, Shocka311
[03:24] <voraistos> Shocka311: there is no antivirus software needed. when a security matter is detected we use an update :)
[03:24] <khasim> does anyone know why amarok cannot organize files from a mounted network drive? I'm using SQLite
[03:24] <BlueEagle> somerville32: Ok then.
[03:24] <somerville32> :)
[03:24] <kitche> Shocka311: the anti-virus software mostly detects windows viruses only meant for mail servers and such really
[03:24] <Bepo> maybe I should try restarting the sucker?
[03:24] <ctford> heheheh, the universal remedy
[03:25] <ctford> bepo: i've got to head off. sorry to leave you in the lurch, but other people on the channel might be better able to help anyway :)
[03:25] <Shocka311> So I can't get a virus from viewing online media or downloading videos, pics or music?
[03:25] <Bepo> ok thanks
[03:25] <Shocka311> off the web?
[03:26] <kitche> Shocka311: no those viruses only really target windows and those are called malware usually
[03:26] <voraistos> Bepo: i had trouble using the GUI before, try using the CLI version... thecommands are not very difficult, and it works better with me for some obscure reason
[03:26] <Bepo> CLI version im really a newbie dont know what to do
[03:26] <Shocka311> thats pretty sweet. is it possible or would I know if I got one?
[03:27] <graft> um, why does my /dev/dsp insist it is busy when according to lsof nothing has it open?
[03:27] <khasim> does anyone know where to at least get amarok help? i've tried the ubuntu forums to no aval
[03:27] <userundefine> Shocka311, you've got a greater chance at winning lottery before getting a virus that could damage linux.  You actively have to try to infect your system to make it happen
[03:28] <graft> khasim: try #amarok
[03:28] <khasim> thanks
[03:28] <voraistos> Bepo : You can give it a try... Its really not that bad. You kinda have an interface, but anascii one :) However next time you format, you might want to use LVM, so you dont have to care about partions and all that stuffanymore.
[03:28] <Shocka311> I was online and I got a popup window that was not web based that offered anti spyware and when I used to run Windows that was the form other viruses took
[03:28] <voidmage> okay now this is very strange
[03:28] <Shocka311> anti spyware software
[03:28] <voidmage> stuff won't even start now
[03:28] <Bepo> voaristos: how do i get to this CLI?
[03:28] <caminomaster> hi
[03:29] <caminomaster> how to install a second soundcard?
[03:30] <voraistos> Shocka311: it was not web based, but since firefox uses a complete GTK, the "information" window or whatever they call it (not a pop-up) looks real. there is no spyware on linux friend :)
[03:30] <lufis> Guise! I need your help. On the Edgy livecd and the actual installation X will start up and then disappear; the screen will stay blank until I restart. WTF? I just spent almost an hour of rebooting trying to get it to actually get the gnome-panel stuff to show up
[03:30] <Shocka311> Linux is sweet!
[03:30] <userundefine> lufis, bad burn?  did you check the md5 hash?
[03:31] <lufis> userundefine: I'm pretty sure it's not the disk. i've tried multiple burns. besides, it works some of the time
[03:31] <neurotech> What's a good FTP server that has a GUI (gnome preferred)?
[03:31] <lufis> This is so frustrating. :(
[03:32] <dcraven> neurotech, you mean client?
[03:32] <Bepo> voaistos: how do i get to CLI?
[03:32] <neurotech> nah a server
[03:32] <userundefine> lufis, tried using the VGA option or 'safe graphics'?  You could also try the alternate CD.
[03:32] <lufis> neurotech: Gftp, maybe? i don't like it myself but to each his own
[03:32] <bruenig> Applications>Accessories>Terminal
[03:32] <lufis> userundefine: I've tried the safe graphics mode.
[03:32] <voraistos> neurotech: i am afraid as lng it is "server" there wont be a nice graphical interface
[03:32] <acm> how do i get ubuntu desktop to not boot gdm?
[03:32] <acm> just cmd line
[03:32] <neurotech> damn
[03:33] <dcraven> neurotech, webadmin might have a frontend to some servers, but I don't know. Not sure why one would have a GUI for a server.
[03:33] <caminomaster> how do I install a second sound card?
[03:33] <lufis> caminomaster: software-wise, or hardware?
[03:33] <neurotech> I dont know enough about FTP servers to be able to run one based on commands
[03:33] <Bepo> ok well i'm gonna give partition magic a try :::sigh:::
[03:33] <userundefine> lufis, strange, but if it's happened on multiple cds I'd imagine it's having some issue with your hardware.  I'd try the alternate CD, which still gives you a "command line" GUI like in past versions of Ubuntu installs
[03:33] <caminomaster> lufis, hardware
[03:33] <voraistos> dcraven: i was just typing in that stuff :P
[03:34] <lufis> caminomaster: Depends. I assume it's PCI, yeah?
[03:34] <caminomaster> is
[03:34] <voraistos> neurotech: no you dont really have to type in commands. It a configuration file you have to edit most often.
[03:34] <caminomaster> isa
[03:34] <neurotech> okay voraistos
[03:34] <osagem> quit
[03:35] <caminomaster> lufis, an ISA card
[03:35] <lufis> userundefine: Well, I guess so. I haven't had the issue with any other releases, though. Ugh :(
[03:35] <roler> Is there any free partitioning software out there ? that is, to re-size existing partitions to make room for others?] 
[03:35] <userundefine> lufis, I sympathize.  I had a similar issue with multiple burns trying to install edgy.  Finally worked, though
[03:35] <voraistos> neurothec: in fact you basically never shutdown a server, so you have a "daemon" always running,an then you add stuff.
[03:35] <lufis> userundefine: The thing is, it doesn't just happen on the livecd- on the installation too. So much rebooting, it's driving me insane :P
[03:36] <neurotech> ok thanks voraistos
[03:36] <lufis> caminomaster: I'm not familiar with ISA (isn't that ancient? :P) but I assume you just pop it in with the computer off
[03:37] <kitche> roler: gparted QTparted
[03:37] <dcraven> neurotech, probably the ubuntu packages for ftp servers have pretty sane default settings. They may be already set up well enough for you.
[03:37] <voraistos> lufis: i didnt see whatyour problem is, but if you have some ISA cards, bu, or whatever, forget about running ubuntu with it.
[03:37] <Bepo> any other ideas on resizing ntfs partitions? gparted is not working
[03:37] <caminomaster> lufis, you mean alsa recognize it automatically?
[03:37] <neurotech> dcraven: what would they be called?
[03:37] <roler> kitche, ; thank you sir
[03:37] <voraistos> lufis: well, in fact no, i think its just a kernel compilation matter.
[03:38] <lufis> voraistos: Ah, well, barking up the wrong tree :P
[03:38] <roler> has anyone installed vmware in edgy?
[03:38] <dcraven> neurotech, I don't use ftp. Have a look in synaptic.
[03:38] <neurotech> ok
[03:39] <voraistos> neurotech :    what do you want ftp for ?
[03:39] <neurotech> just for use on my LAN to share files
[03:39] <dcraven> voraistos, file transfer no doubt :P
[03:40] <voraistos> neurotech: you should use nfs
[03:40] <neurotech> nfs?
[03:40] <voraistos> its so much better
[03:40] <neurotech> my other machine is winxp
[03:41] <Manse> why the transfer speed of SMB so slow?
[03:41] <voraistos> with nfs, athentification is by IP adress for example, and as you said, if you go to the DL Microsoft page, get Windows services for unix.
[03:41] <iain`> X fails on my new video card.  Does a tool exists that auto-detects changes and adjusts accordingly?
[03:41] <joli> i have the package vim-common and vim-tiny instaled, but can't run vimtutor. In packages.ubuntu.com it says that vim-common installs vimtutor, but i dont't have it instaled...any ideas?
[03:41] <iain`> XB
[03:42] <TheDebugger> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver iirc
[03:42] <kitche> iain`: you have to reconfigure xserver-xorg with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:42] <iain`> Oops wrong keys
[03:42] <voraistos> neurotech:actually a few years ago they sent me a services for unix dic for free. I was pretty much impressed.
[03:42] <jvai_> thanx every1.. gn
[03:42] <iain`> kitche: Thanks; I'll try it now
[03:43] <derek_> Hi
[03:43] <derek_> Any RSS feedreader for linux that checks the feeds in real-time and gives an alert of the new ones received?
[03:43] <iain`> kitche: `nv' is correct for a GeForce, right?
[03:43] <RomeReactor> i'm getting no sound  with a game called Regnum Online, can someone help?
[03:44] <voraistos> neurotech:Yeah really you should try that: it is really powerfull, and you can mount a distant hard drive just like if it was a local one. And in Windows too.
[03:44] <iain`> Or is there anything more specific?
[03:44] <kitche> iain`: yes that is the open source nvidia drivers
[03:44] <iain`> kitche: Thanks
[03:44] <bruenig> derek_, in real time? What like constantly downloads the feed, that would be quite the bandwidth whore
[03:44] <dcraven> derek_, I hope not.
[03:45] <derek_> bruenig: something like Feedreader for windows. It gives an alert quickly as a feed is received
[03:45] <dcraven> Leave it to Windows to have apps like that :P
[03:45] <neurotech> okay voraistos i'll check it out
[03:46] <kitche> derek_: there is apps out there let me see if I can find one real quick
[03:46] <dcraven> derek_, probably your nick is the same color as your console background.
[03:46] <derek_> :P  ..I want quick alerts automatically rather than keep looking into the window myself.
[03:46] <bruenig> derek_, rss readers redownload feeds on at a set time. There are many linux apps that will do that liferea comes to mind. I doubt that that feedreader app tells you in real time, it only tells you after it has redownloaded the feed
[03:46] <derek_> dcraven: probably. hm
[03:46] <tuxplorer> I opted for KDM instead of GDM, after installing KDM package sometime back.. I now want to fallback to GDM. I know I should use debconf.. but don't know what parameters I need to pass.. can anyone help me?
[03:46] <akk> Are there any documents on debugging pcmcia networking? I'm coming up blank with google.
[03:46] <derek_> kitche: thanks
[03:46] <RomeReactor> just changed to a sound blaster audigy se and get no sound from the game, please help
[03:46] <bruenig> !info liferea
[03:46] <ubotu> liferea: feed aggregator for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.23-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 734 kB, installed size 2224 kB
[03:46] <dcraven> derek_, try highlighting between the < and > with your mouse.
[03:46] <bruenig> derek_, liferea sets in the tray and lights up when you have a feed
[03:46] <akk> I've added allow-hotplug eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces but I still have to run ifup eth0 every time I plug in the card.
[03:46] <joli> derek_: select your nick to find out!
[03:47] <kvossen> Does anyone know how I can find out what that weird UUID-value was in /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[03:47] <derek_> dcraven: yea, highlighting shows my nick
[03:47] <kitche> derek_: yarssr seems like the thing that you want it's in the universe repo
[03:47] <derek_> bruenig: ok, sounds good enough (liferea)
[03:47] <voraistos> kvossen: yeah i wonder too. What i now is that it seems completly useless.
[03:47] <derek_> kitche: ok
[03:47] <kitche> derek_: just pick one and see if you like it
[03:48] <derek_> do you people prefer Straw news aggregator?
[03:48] <derek_> or Liferea?
[03:48] <bruenig> !info yarssr
[03:48] <ubotu> yarssr: RSS reader for the notification area. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.2-1 (edgy), package size 22 kB, installed size 248 kB
[03:48] <kvossen> voraistos, well, i don't know actually. My pc refused to boot while it was there.
[03:48] <kvossen> voraistos, so i deleted it instead of commenting it out :)
[03:49] <MVarrieur> #ubuntu forums
[03:49] <dcraven> So many apps abusing the notification area these days.
[03:49] <derek_> I just changed the colour theme in gnome-terminal, but it hasn't taken effect in the current irssi
[03:49] <voraistos> kvossen: wow maybe its some kind of MAC address but for harddrives .....
[03:49] <MVarrieur> ...whoa just waking up i dunno what i'm doing lol
[03:49] <teledyn_> happy new year everyone!
[03:49] <RomeReactor> anyone...?
[03:49] <kvossen> voraistos, that might be possible :)
[03:50] <kitche> derek_: that's because irssi doesn't go by what gnome says or kde says you have to configure it right or use a terminal that has a black background
[03:50] <derek_> kitche: I see
[03:50] <voraistos> MVarrieur : Nice to see some dudes,when they wake up, the first thing they think about is ubuntu :)
[03:50] <derek_> kitche: any idea how to configure irssi's colour theme?
[03:50] <dcraven> derek_, it's a mess.
[03:51] <derek_> dcraven: irssi?
[03:51] <voraistos> MVarrieur : #Dont tell your girlfriend... Mine is a bit.. hmmm... whatever when i say "ubuntu" #
[03:51] <derek_> !info liferea
[03:51] <ubotu> liferea: feed aggregator for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.23-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 734 kB, installed size 2224 kB
[03:51] <MVarrieur> haha
[03:51] <kitche> derek_: go to irssi.org then themes and it tells you there
[03:51] <dcraven> derek_, altering colorschemes in irssi is a mess IMHO. There are a bunch of different ones at irssi.org though if you want to check those out.
[03:52] <derek_> bruenig: you said liferea pops up a notification on receiving a new feed?
[03:52] <derek_> kitche: ok
[03:52] <derek_> dcraven: ok
[03:52] <bruenig> derek_, yes, it is a globe, the globe lights up when it has new stuff
[03:52] <derek_> wonder why they removed xchat from ubuntu install
[03:52] <Vich> MY WEBCAM STOPPED WORKING
[03:52] <Vich> for no reason
[03:52] <clop> hi, im trying to burn an audio cd but serpentine keeps crapping out with an "AssertationError".  is there some other program i can use?
[03:52] <voraistos> thy think gaim is better ...
[03:52] <derek_> bruenig: hm, k. No box showing the feed?
[03:53] <Vich> as in it always worked
[03:53] <Vich> then today
[03:53] <Vich> it didn't
[03:53] <bruenig> derek_, you click on the globe and the reader pops up
[03:53] <derek_> bruenig: ok
[03:53] <metroman> How do I download the live CD with Bittorrent?
[03:53] <derek_> bruenig: what are the essential differences between straw and liferea? (if you have used both)
[03:53] <Shocka311> Kitche: hey you gave me a link for a user guid on linux systems earlier and a list of terminal comands and definitions earlier and I thought I bookmarked it but I can't find it now. Can you give it to me again?
[03:54] <bruenig> derek_, I have only used liferea, just install them both try them out and see
[03:54] <derek_> ok
[03:54] <bruenig> liferea seemed like the rss reader of choice which is why I installed it
[03:54] <thcrw8383> can i use KBXF in Gnome with the "main menu" thing for the Gnome panel
[03:54] <Jumbs> hey, can one of you point me to a good help channel, unless this is it...
[03:54] <kitche> Shocka311: oreillynet.com/linux/cmd
[03:55] <dcraven> Jumbs, #vim is pretty good for help.
[03:55] <akk> If you find one, Jumbs, let me know
[03:55] <refus3d> nah
[03:55] <refus3d> #wim isucks
[03:55] <Jumbs> haha, conflicting reports...
[03:55] <derek_> Why is the right ALT not working (for alt-tab to switch between windows) ?
[03:55] <metroman> How do I download the live CD with Bittorrent?
[03:56] <chab> using a torrent client
[03:56] <dm_> Hey guys trying to compile something and its telling me "SDL does not appear to be installed - install the SDL development package
[03:56] <dm_> "
[03:56] <Shocka311> Kitche: Thats the one, thanks
[03:56] <derek_> Also it doesn't work in irssi to switch between channels.. only the left ALT works
[03:56] <refus3d> Jumbs, it doesnt work
[03:56] <metroman> Could someone please link me to the torrent file?
[03:56] <refus3d> different ascii code
[03:56] <chab> metroman what live cd u need
[03:56] <akk> derek_: Maybe you chose a keyboard model that uses the right alt to type foreign characters?
[03:56] <bruenig> metroman, what architecture and which version edgy or dapper?
[03:56] <Jumbs> what doesnt work, the channel?
[03:56] <Hubris2> Can anyone give me some advise on configuring VNC over SSH?
[03:57] <jedix> hey
[03:57] <SilentDis> 'lo :)
[03:57] <derek_> akk, I select U.S.English and the default kbd layout for it
[03:57] <derek_> selected*
[03:57] <metroman> I want to download Edgy for IBMs with Bittorrent.
[03:57] <jedix> what instructions should I follow to get my nvidia card working for 3d?
[03:57] <dcraven> dm libsdl1.2-dev might be what you're after.
[03:57] <bruenig> metroman, here is i386 edgy 6.10 http://ftp.ucsb.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/ubuntu/edgy/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[03:57] <metroman> Thanks.
[03:58] <SilentDis> help!  I'm having problems, it appears, with something called 'APIC' in Ubuntu Edgy.  I remember disabling it on my Dapper install, and it solved all my crashing issues.  Could someone clue me into what it is, what it's supposed to do, if it's safe to turn off, and how?  lol
[03:59] <SpacePuppy> SilentDis: how do you know it's apic?
[03:59] <dabaR> SilentDis: is it a laptop? what make and model is it?
[03:59] <SilentDis> SpacePuppy:  crashlogs all refrence it.  It's a desktop machine.
[04:00] <SpacePuppy> grub or lilo?
[04:00] <SilentDis> SpacePuppy:  grub bootloader
[04:00] <curs0r> hi kids, where can i get help with xfce?
[04:00] <VMT2007> Awesome. I installed Ubuntu on my laptop and: 1) the sound doesn't work. 2) ndiswrapper does not load my wireless drivers.
[04:00] <derek_> curs0r: on #xubuntu?
[04:00] <userundefine> curs0r, in here if it relates to Xubuntu, or in #xfce
[04:01] <dcraven> curs0r, #xfce maybe? Or #xubuntu.
[04:01] <Hubris2> I can successfully connect VNC over SSH from my laptop on my local lan.  When I try from work, I can connect SSH, but VNC immediately disconnects.  Any ideas?
[04:01] <dabaR> SilentDis: are you booting an installer, a live CD, or just your Ubuntu install on your computer?
[04:01] <GMT-1_AZ> What should I do if GRUB fails but all the partitions remain intact ?
[04:01] <SilentDis> DabR:  my installed system.
[04:01] <dm_> How do youi make it so you can run a script by right clicking on something
[04:01] <VMT2007> Boot from a disc.
[04:01] <SpacePuppy> SilentDis: you need to modify /boot/grub to not run apci
[04:01] <curs0r> ah, well i'm wondering which file the key shortcuts are stored in (ctrl+esc) etc
[04:01] <SilentDis> SpacePuppy:  opening now...
[04:01] <syxx> I'm just installed a fresh copy of Edgy 64bit.  and I'm trying to get my folding client to work.  but when I do the ./FAH5 it says "No such file or directory"  I know the files are in the right spot...
[04:01] <Ardonik> Hubris2: the last time I had that problem while using an SSH tunnel, it was because there was no actual server listening at the other end.
[04:02] <Ardonik> (The server in this case being svnserve.)
[04:02] <syxx> It works on my Sabayon pc just fine
[04:02] <SilentDis> SpacePuppy:  got the file listing up... what file am I looking for?
[04:02] <dabaR> SilentDis: maybe just try e in grub menu and add noapic to the end of the boot line
[04:02] <syxx> I did chmod +x too
[04:02] <dabaR> SilentDis: that way you do not change anything:-/
[04:02] <Hubris2> Ardonik - I'm just using the 'remote desktop' setting....so I'm pretty sure it was active....nbtstat showed it was listening on port 5900.
[04:02] <VMT2007> acpi=off isn't it
[04:02] <newguy101> anyone having connection issues with the repos?
[04:03] <dabaR> VMT2007: ya, acpi apic, same thing...
[04:03] <bruenig> curs0r, I can tell you where to set them, I will look to see if I can find them, I am sure that it is in the /home/username directory
[04:03] <VMT2007> apic?
[04:03] <VMT2007> what is apic?
[04:03] <SilentDis> DabaR:  if this fixes it, i'd like to make it permanant.  could you 'show' me how to do that, so I can make notes?
[04:03] <Hubris2> Ardonik - I was able to get an SSH connection....shell worked fine - I just couldn't connect with VNC
[04:03] <VMT2007> acronyms aren't something you just mix around
[04:03] <Ardonik> Hubris2: I don't know what the "remote desktop" setting is, but if you can't vncviewer localhost:<display number> on the server system, you will not be able to tunnel into it.
[04:03] <SilentDis> DabR:  also, is it -noapic or just noapic at the end of the line?
[04:03] <SpacePuppy> in /boot/grub/menu.lst i think
[04:03] <bruenig> curs0r, it is in ~/.config/xfce4/shortcuts
[04:03] <arnold__> hi Im having a problem with connecting to wireless networks with WEP in ubuntu
[04:04] <newguy101> anyone having connection issues with the repos?
[04:04] <cafuego> SilentDis: kernel options do not start with hyphens
[04:04] <arnold__> Im sure i have the right key but it just starts hanging when I try to connect
[04:04] <VMT2007> not me
[04:04] <kitche> newguy101: some people have
[04:04] <VMT2007> arnold__: is the key a string
[04:04] <arnold__> and also wireless works fine in windows
[04:04] <caminomaster> how do I install a soundcard?
[04:04] <VMT2007> or a hexademical code?
[04:04] <dabaR> SilentDis: just edit, with sudo, /boot/grub/menu.lst and make the line like you edit it in the grub menu(when comp. starts, press escape to get to the menu, then press e on your Ubuntu line, and add noapic there). maybe it will work, maybe not, I am not sure.
[04:04] <VMT2007> hexadecimal, rather
[04:04] <arnold__> um its just a line of about 20 or so numbers
[04:04] <Hubris2> Ardonik - Remote Desktop is via vino server I believe....it's an option you can set in the system preferences
[04:04] <SpacePuppy> lol
[04:05] <SpacePuppy> caminomaster: you mean like open up the machine and plop it in?
[04:05] <syxx> is it just that i'm running the 64bit?
[04:05] <Ardonik> Hubris2: like I said, verify that you have connectivity on localhost from the server system.  If not, VNC through the SSH tunnel is guaranteed to fail.
[04:05] <VMT2007> SpacePuppy: I'm pretty sure he doesn't mean the physical installation
[04:05] <dcraven> newguy101, yes I am. Rogers is having DNS issues this evening.
[04:05] <dcraven> newguy101, probably be fixed by morning.
[04:06] <curs0r> bruenig, thank you, is there a reference for what acceptable entries are?
[04:06] <SilentDis> dabaR:  ok, i'll just drop in a new menu item with napic in it.  that way I have options, and backups lol.  thanks.  off to try it :)
[04:06] <VMT2007> caminomaster: what sound card is it?
[04:06] <SpacePuppy> VMT2007: i dunno.. i've seen some mighty strange stuff sometimes
[04:06] <Hubris2> Ardonik - I do......when on the LAN I can connect directly with VNC.....in fact I can connect to SSH and then connect VNC through that
[04:06] <SilentDis> dabaR:  er, noapic, i mean
[04:06] <newguy101> ah...  damn it!
[04:06] <arnold__> anyone got any ideas about that
[04:06] <newguy101> thanks dcraven!  hehe
[04:06] <dcraven> newguy101, that's what I say. I've been having issues with it all day to many websites.
[04:06] <bruenig> curs0r, you can change the shortcuts graphically at Settings>Keyboard shortcuts, but here is the syntax of one of the entries, <shortcut command="xfrun4" keys="Alt+F2"/>
[04:07] <caminomaster> an ISA card, chip opl-sa
[04:07] <bruenig> <shortcut command="xfrun4" keys="Alt+F2"/>
[04:07] <VMT2007> ISA card?
[04:07] <VMT2007> err
[04:07] <dcraven> newguy101, cable was actually out for over an hour this morning.
[04:07] <caminomaster> yes, ISA
[04:07] <curs0r> bruenig, it won't let me map the mouse as a key using that... i'm hopng this can
[04:07] <VMT2007> wow
[04:07] <VMT2007> that's legacy, man
[04:08] <newguy101> dvraven:  I was doing a few updates and I thought that my repos needed refreshing with automatix so I refreshed them and BAM!  Everything's messed.
[04:08] <derek_> Does evolution have RSS feed reading capability?
[04:08] <eternal_p> good evening all....i've mucked up my gnome desktop, any programs which could be minimized to the clock area (ie azurues or kopete) disappear now,, how can i get them back?
[04:08] <cafuego> derek_: not anymore
[04:08] <VMT2007> derek_: I don't believe so, and thunderbird's better anyway
[04:08] <thoreauputic> eternal_p: right click panel, add "notification aree"
[04:09] <newguy101> dcraven:  I was doing a few updates and I thought that my repos needed refreshing with automatix so I refreshed them and BAM!  Everything's messed.
[04:09] <derek_> ok. How is thunderbird's rss functionality?
[04:09] <thoreauputic> eternal_p: umm "notification area"
[04:09] <idlemind> hello! does anyone know where i would install a custom program binary ... /usr/bin?
[04:09] <cafuego> derek_: acceptable
[04:09] <eternal_p> i don't see notification area anywhere
[04:09] <VMT2007> idlemind: anywhere in the PATH environment variable
[04:09] <userundefine> idlemind, typically /opt
[04:09] <derek_> ok
[04:09] <thoreauputic> idlemind: usually /opt or /usr/local/bin
[04:09] <dcraven> newguy101, I don't know anyting about automatix, but it's probably more than a coincidence that we are both Rogers customers.
[04:09] <VMT2007>  /opt is best
[04:10] <VMT2007> man that's like saying "it's more than a coincidence that we are both Canadian"
[04:10] <newguy101> dcraven:  yeah.  I know.  It was just a bad time for it to go down.
[04:10] <thoreauputic> VMT2007: yes, but a link from /usr/local/bin will also put the executable in the PATH
[04:10] <dcraven> eternal_p, right click a panel, chose "Add to panel..." etc.
[04:11] <cafuego> idlemind: or you could install through 'checkinstall
[04:11] <dcraven> newguy101, anytime is a bad time :)
[04:11] <eternal_p> think I found it
[04:12] <thoreauputic> eternal_p: should be under "utilities" in the add to panel dialog
[04:12] <derek_> where was the option in firefox preferences to NOT clean-up the list of downloaded files automatically?
[04:12] <eternal_p> i added it, but azureus isn't showing up in there
[04:12] <eternal_p> neither is kopete
[04:12] <idlemind> ok thanx
[04:12] <thoreauputic> eternal_p: try restarting your azureus / kopete
[04:13] <lenovo> 
[04:13] <VMT2007> whoa
[04:13] <thoreauputic> eternal_p: and maybe check your preferences in those apps
[04:13] <chab> azureus is dodgy
[04:13] <dcraven> Pretty pictures.
[04:13] <eternal_p> that did it...thanks!
[04:13] <chab> it gives error permanently
[04:13] <thoreauputic> chab: not really - 2.5 seems pretty reliable here at least
[04:13] <Life> if i do not install the grub loader into the master boot record, what will happen?
[04:14] <Life> since i already have debian installed
[04:14] <thoreauputic> eternal_p: :)
[04:14] <ubuntu> lOASS
[04:14] <eternal_p> anyone here good with Bluetooth PCMCIA devices
[04:14] <chab> i preffer bittornado
[04:14] <apokryphos> Life: you'll need to manually edit your grub config file, and add in ubuntu
[04:14] <Life> i only want to load ubuntu, and not debian though
[04:14] <thoreauputic> chab: whatever you prefer, of course :)
[04:14] <apokryphos> Life: so why not let ubuntu take the mbr, then?
[04:14] <chab> on the other side , azureus is banned on some trackers
[04:14] <chab> indeed
[04:14] <chab> i like the blue frog
[04:14] <chab> and thats all :)
[04:15] <Life> <apokryphos: i want to, however i think the install will just add ubuntu
[04:15] <VMT2007> i hate the language barrier
[04:15] <Life> i just simply want to load ubunut and not debian
[04:15] <VMT2007> ...
[04:15] <eternal_p> my bt device is only being detected as a serial card
[04:15] <eternal_p> but under device manager it is called a bluetooh card
[04:16] <curs0r> oh, hehe beryl does that for me lol
[04:16] <VMT2007> I have a question
[04:16] <VMT2007> I'm trying to load my wireless driver
[04:16] <dcraven> I have an answer.
[04:16] <VMT2007> but ndiswrapper doesn't find it valid
[04:17] <dcraven> 108
[04:17] <thomas> hey guys, i'm having a problem with my panel. when run, it crashes. however, when run as root, it doesn't crash. please help me solve this
[04:17] <Aggrav8d> I've got httpd running but when i "nc -v localhost 80" i get no response.  any ideas why that might be?
[04:17] <VMT2007> it's a Broadcom BCM4318 AirForce One 54g
[04:17] <eternal_p> ?
[04:19] <htt> ubuntu installd and ready now..  but i i have problem.   before every internet connection i get lika 1-2 minutes paus..
[04:19] <htt> before the connection starts
[04:19] <thoreauputic> thomas: what does   ls -l ~/.Xauthority  say ? ( and why are you running gnome as root? )
[04:19] <kitche> !ipv6|htt
[04:19] <ubotu> htt: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[04:20] <thomas> thoreauputic: i'm not running gnome as root, i'm running the panel as root, as when run as user it crashes.
[04:20] <Pablo> I keep getting these errors in dmesg
[04:20] <Pablo> [17179605.332000]  ide: failed opcode was: unknown
[04:20] <Pablo> [17179605.332000]  end_request: I/O error, dev hda, sector 19235503
[04:20] <Pablo> [17179608.124000]  hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
[04:20] <Pablo> [17179608.124000]  hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=1923
[04:20] <Pablo> anyone know what would fix that
[04:21] <Pablo> my computer locks up all the time
[04:21] <thoreauputic> !paste | Pablo
[04:21] <ubotu> Pablo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:21] <thomas> thoreauputic: -rw------- 1 thomas thomas 114 2006-12-21 22:04 /home/thomas/.Xauthority
[04:21] <pyrokenx> Hello all.
[04:21] <Pablo> any suggestions?
[04:21] <thoreauputic> thomas: OK that looks all right - what do you mean about running the panel as root then?
[04:21] <timtrimble> ubuntu doesnt recognize my sbpci 16 when i modprobe for it, can anyone help?
[04:21] <pyrokenx> I have some trouble on PowerPC, anyone up to helping a guy out? :)
[04:21] <dcraven> Pablo, could be a harddrive failing. Back up your stuff asap just in case.
[04:21] <Pablo> seems like it started after my last updates
[04:22] <Pablo> ok dcraven
[04:22] <Pablo> but it seems as if it happened after the last updates
[04:22] <thomas> thoreauputic: on login, the panel just crashes. so i open the panel as root in a terminal so i can function.
[04:22] <Pablo> and if I startup in recovery mode it doesnt happen in dmesg
[04:23] <thoreauputic> thomas: that sounds like asking for problems - which is why I asked about .Xauthority
[04:23] <tdog> hello, any program that can check multiple email accounts such as hotmail , gmail ???
[04:23] <thoreauputic> thomas: have you tried just running " killall gnome-panel " as your normal user ?
[04:23] <timtrimble> tdog
[04:23] <timtrimble> evolution
[04:23] <dcraven> Pablo, it might only happen when certain areas of the disc are accessed. Trust me, back up anything important on hda.
[04:23] <timtrimble> kmail
[04:23] <thomas> thoreauputic: yeah
[04:23] <thoreauputic> thomas: it should respawn
[04:24] <Pablo> ok dcraven
[04:24] <timtrimble> or even thunderbird
[04:24] <Pablo> anyway to disable dma?
[04:24] <cafuego> tdog: Any mail client can do that
[04:24] <tdog> but is there something that can sit in task bar and check for mail in set times
[04:24] <dcraven> Pablo, hopefully that's not it though, of course.
[04:24] <thoreauputic> thomas: do ou also own ~/.ICEauthority ? ls -l ~/.ICEauthority
[04:24] <thomas> thoreauputic: it respawns and crashes
[04:24] <thoreauputic> hmm
[04:24] <arnold__> hi Im having a problem with connecting to wireless networks with WEP in ubuntu, I put in the correct key but it doesnt work, it works in windows though
[04:24] <cafuego> tdog: You can minimise them and have them running in the background
[04:24] <timtrimble> ubuntu doesnt recognize my sbpci 16 when i modprobe for it, can anyone help?
[04:24] <malt> Hey, is unreal ircd in ubuntu package manger? i see just about all of the others
[04:24] <malt> but unreal
[04:24] <tdog> Thanks
[04:25] <thoreauputic> thomas: what does  ls -l ~/.ICEauthority  say ?
[04:25] <thomas> thoreauputic: -rw------- 1 thomas thomas 18259 2006-12-21 22:04 /home/thomas/.ICEauthority
[04:25] <dcraven> Pablo, hdparm can disable dma.
[04:25] <thoreauputic> thomas: OK
[04:25] <thoreauputic> thomas: running out of ideas here :)
[04:25] <Pablo> dcraven,  I did get it really cold this week... so it could be failing... but it seems it happened when I updated the updates last... I didnt look at what it updated :(
[04:25] <thoreauputic> thomas: any error messages if you run gnome-panel from a terminal as your user?
[04:26] <thomas> thoreauputic: ughhh i don't know what to do. i'm thinking about just creating a new user and seeing if that helps. and no, there's no output, and the crash information yields nothing useful. its a segfault
[04:26] <dcraven> Pablo, to disable it permanently, have a look in /etc/hdparm.conf for an example. You could probably just uncomment the given example as it is for /dev/hda.
[04:26] <thomas> thoreauputic: brb
[04:26] <thoreauputic> thomas: yes, test with a new user
[04:26] <Pablo> ok thanks
[04:26] <ToHellWithGA> i just installed another (old) PCI video card and would like to use it along with my primary onboard video.  is that something that can be done in X, Gnome, ubuntu?
[04:27] <Aggrav8d> I've got httpd running but when i "nc -v localhost 80" i get no response.  any ideas why that might be?
[04:27] <Aggrav8d> i tried to disable ipv4 but that didn't help.
[04:27] <jedix> can someone help me get dual display working with nvidia drivers?
[04:27] <timtrimble> jedix
[04:27] <timtrimble> hold on
[04:28] <holycow> jedix, you have a dual head card?
[04:28] <jedix> holycow: yes
[04:28] <ToHellWithGA> jedix: is that one card or two?
[04:28] <jedix> one card
[04:28] <timtrimble> nvm, theyve got it
[04:28] <trinkolade> Aggrav8d, do you start the service with /etc/init.d/httpd start ?
[04:28] <holycow> want my xorg.conf file?
[04:28] <ToHellWithGA> i'm trying to do something like that but with two cards
[04:28] <jedix> holycow: sure
[04:29] <thomas> thoreauputic: UGH lame. thanks for the help, i seem to have figured out that its just my profile.
[04:29] <Pulshion> Hi, i got a quit question, are there any programms in dapper similar to Macs IMovie
[04:29] <holycow> !pastebin
[04:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:29] <htt> kitche  did not work
[04:29] <timtrimble> no, pulshion
[04:29] <Pulshion> Hi, i got a quick question, are there any programms in dapper similar to Macs IMovie
[04:29] <trinkolade> Aggrav8d, what does netstat -l say?
[04:29] <thoreauputic> thomas: ah OK
[04:29] <voraistos> Pulshion u might wantto visit ubuntustudio... but i dont know how things qre going there ...
[04:30] <jedix> I had it running on debian at 4096x1536 @ 75hz
[04:30] <jedix> I want it to do that again
[04:30] <holycow> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38306/
[04:30] <VMT2007> Is NetworkManager compatible with ndiswrapper-loaded drivers?
[04:30] <Aggrav8d> trinkolade - among other things, tcp 0 0 *:www *:* LISTEN
[04:31] <dcraven> VMT2007, some of them at least. It worked with my Broadcom.
[04:31] <htt> before every internet connection i get lika 1-2 minutes paus..
[04:31] <Aggrav8d> trinkolade - does that narrow the field a little?
[04:31] <htt> the instructions for disabeling ipv6 did not work
[04:31] <VMT2007> dcraven: My device has the name "eth0" and not "wlan0", and NetworkManager does not detect it.
[04:32] <SeraVitae> Does anyone know if im2lib and im2lib-devel are avaiable?
[04:32] <geo_> how do you install beryl
[04:32] <SeraVitae> i can't find anything in synaptic for it, and a program is complaining I don't have it
[04:32] <jedix> holycow: thanks
[04:32] <jedix> holycow: got it going, but the refresh rates sucks
[04:33] <trinkolade> Aggrav8d, well it seems to be running at least ;)
[04:33] <VMT2007> How do I configure networkmanager?
[04:33] <holycow> jedix, for that you need the CORRECT vert an dhoriz refresh rates FOR your exact model an dmake of your monitor
[04:33] <holycow> google them
[04:33] <jedix> holycow: I have them
[04:33] <malt> What is probally the best, and most easy IRCD on ubuntu to install with services? like unreal
[04:33] <timtrimble> ubuntu doesnt recognize my sbpci 16 when i modprobe for it, can anyone help?
[04:34] <Aggrav8d> trinkolade - i don't believe it's a port forwarding problem and i haven't installed a fw yet so i'm guessing it's some bs with apache config.
[04:34] <Aggrav8d> which is wierd, considering all i've done is set up a virtual host.
[04:34] <imperfectus> Anyone here using vmware?
[04:34] <trinkolade> Aggrav8d, what happens when you try to connect with a browser?
[04:35] <holycow> imperfectus, i do
[04:35] <trinkolade> Aggrav8d, you don't get anything?
[04:35] <jedix> holycow: but it still starts up at 60Hz
[04:35] <VMT2007> installing an IRCd as a service isn't a good idea from my experience
[04:35] <imperfectus> holycow: do you use windows with it with USB devices?
[04:35] <imperfectus> holycow
[04:35] <VMT2007> you can run it as a user and keep it up with a crontab
[04:35] <holycow> jedix, thats the only thing that affects it jedix not sure how to debut further from here
[04:35] <Eldanen> Hey all.  I'm having trouble setting up my network in Ubuntu.  I have an Nvidia MCP55 integrated network card that uses module forcedeth.  The only problem is that it needs msi=0 msix=0 options to work.  2.6.17 doesn't seem to have this option.  How can I get my network running?  Chrooting and updating from this LiveCD?
[04:36] <imperfectus> holycow: I'm trying like hell to get my WM5 device to work under Xp in Vmware, but when I go to the removable device part it says there's nothing there
[04:36] <Gun_Smoke> I'm having a problem with the install of azureus I pulled from the repos.  I would like to either completely remove Azureus and do a clean install with the latest version from their site.  Where do I find azureus on my system to remove it?
[04:36] <holycow> imperfectus, just plug them in.  make sure usb device is enabled in the vmware workstation preferences deal
[04:36] <trinkolade> Aggrav8d, how did you try it? And from where?
[04:36] <imperfectus> Well
[04:36] <timtrimble> ubuntu doesnt recognize my sbpci 16 when i modprobe for it, can anyone help?
[04:36] <imperfectus> I'm using Server
[04:36] <dcraven> Gun_Smoke, why not uninstall it with apt?
[04:36] <imperfectus> but it's is
[04:37] <holycow> ah
[04:37] <holycow> don't know
[04:37] <imperfectus> I can go to VM->removable devices
[04:37] <imperfectus> and it just says empt
[04:37] <holycow> how are you connecting to your windows session if its running on vmware server?
[04:37] <holycow> rdp client of some sort?
[04:37] <imperfectus> I'm usoing the vmware server concole currently
[04:37] <trinkolade> Aggrav8d, is it accessable somehow? From localhost or the same net? What about the firewall setting?
[04:37] <Gun_Smoke> dcraven:  good thinking... I've forgotten about that.. I've been trying to force myself lately to use the command line.
[04:38] <holycow> the client by which you are connecting to win will need to talk to your local machine to pass the usb data back and fort
[04:38] <holycow> h
[04:38] <dcraven> Gun_Smoke, apt-get is a command line tool.
[04:38] <Aggrav8d> is there a default fw in ubuntu 6.10 server that blocks port 80?
[04:38] <dcraven> Gun_Smoke, as is aptitude.
[04:38] <imperfectus> Well
[04:38] <imperfectus> It's all on my local machine
[04:38] <holycow> imperfectus, i don't know what capabilities that client has ... you would best be looking for that answer on their site
[04:39] <VMT2007> NetworkManager doesn't seem to work with my interface
[04:39] <VMT2007> It doesn't even detect it.
[04:39] <holycow> imperfectus, however, the idea is the same.  that client has to know how to access your hardware and pass the usb data back and forth.
[04:39] <imperfectus> I'm just using server because it's free and because I can deatch and it'll still be running in the background
[04:39] <holycow> i know why you are running server but server and workstation are different beasts
[04:39] <jmiller565> VMT: what's your interface?
[04:39] <imperfectus> Yeah?
[04:39] <VMT2007> Interface?
[04:39] <VMT2007> Oh.
[04:40] <holycow> and your running windows, a piece of crap os that really isn't design for anything including virtualization
[04:40] <trinkolade> Aggrav8d, no, there shouldn't be any, but is there a hardware router?
[04:40] <imperfectus> Is it possible I need workstation to get this to wrok?
[04:40] <VMT2007> One second
[04:40] <holycow> imperfectus, it works on workstation
[04:40] <holycow> they have a 30 demo you can try
[04:40] <GMT-1_AZ> Can my computer act as a server ? what is exactly a server?
[04:40] <imperfectus> Well, I'd like to be able to sync with my VM5 phone, that's all.
[04:40] <userundefine> GMT-1_AZ, yes.  a server's just a computer with different programs running on it.
[04:40] <jmiller565> BRB
[04:40] <VMT2007> jmiller565: Broadcom BCM4318
[04:40] <trinkolade> Aggrav8d, oh! Ubuntu server? There might be a fw for that, see if there's one
[04:40] <jmiller565> oh ok
[04:40] <jmiller565> um
[04:41] <tolldog> is there a known problem with the nvidia 6150 on 64 bit? I can't get past the splash screen with installs
[04:41] <holycow> imperfectus, *nod* i exploained how both approaches work so go for it
[04:41] <GMT-1_AZ> like... serving other computers ? with services, ... a webpage?
[04:41] <jmiller565> I don't know anything about that interface. soz man
[04:41] <Eldanen> Does anyone know what I can do? :/
[04:41] <userundefine> GMT-1_AZ, sure
[04:41] <velasco_> Does anyone know where I can find beryl's packages for Ubuntu 6.06 ?
[04:42] <velasco_> please =)
[04:42] <jmiller565> VMT:I don't know anything about that interface. soz man
[04:42] <imperfectus> Well a quick glance at vmware's site hints that there is a ip-based solution for USB data for the ESX server
[04:42] <holycow> !beryl
[04:42] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[04:42] <imperfectus> I'm running beryl
[04:42] <imperfectus> it's purty
[04:42] <holycow> though not supported here, pre alpha software and extremely buggy
[04:43] <imperfectus> eh
[04:43] <imperfectus> velasco_ : http://www.timothyward.us/ipod/beryl.ogg
[04:43] <imperfectus> That's my desktop, it seems pretty stable imho
[04:43] <velasco_> thanks.. I'll take a look
[04:43] <GMT-1_AZ> Extremely buggy. I might say :)
[04:44] <unikon> sup hackit
[04:44] <hackit_error> nottin
[04:44] <draco79> anyone know anything about vpns
[04:44] <jief-> hey guys. i installed ndiswrapper, i can load the driver with ndiswrapper (shows up with -l). i can modprobe ndiswrapper, it loads fine. but it doesnt create a wlan0 interface. im kinda new to wireless in linux. what could be wrong?
[04:45] <hackit_error> help
[04:46] <hackit_error> I want ubuntu to be better than xp
[04:46] <|Amon|> ..
[04:46] <DarthLappy> hackit_error: Err?
[04:46] <cyphase> ..
[04:46] <hackit_error> but it sucks
[04:46] <unikon>  anyone please tell hackit why edgy is a pain compared to dapper
[04:46] <GMT-1_AZ> imperfectus, what's your graphics card?
[04:46] <imperfectus> Uhm
[04:46] <bruenig> edgy has been flawless for me
[04:46] <imperfectus> Nvidia 7600GS I think
[04:46] <holycow> hackit_error, define 'better'
[04:46] <hackit_error> lol
[04:46] <userundefine> No problems on edgy here
[04:46] <cyphase> edgy is awesome
[04:46] <|Amon|> hackit_error: um. linux is by definition better than xp
[04:46] <VMT2007> Aw
[04:46] <VMT2007> Ah
[04:46] <VMT2007> I got NetworkManager to work
[04:46] <hackit_error> lol yea
[04:46] <VMT2007> I changed the device name from eth0 to wlan0
[04:46] <hackit_error> sure
[04:47] <imperfectus> GMT-1_AZ : Why do you ask?
[04:47] <VMT2007> |Amon|: not really
[04:47] <GMT-1_AZ> I'm using ati radeon. Beryl works but... with some bugs
[04:47] <VMT2007> |Amon|: XP kicks Linux's ass at crashing :P
[04:47] <holycow> you still havent a: defined a problem and b: defined better
[04:47] <holycow> hackit_error, so what exactly do you want?
[04:47] <cyphase> Linux, n. 1. The best operating system in the world
[04:47] <|Amon|> VMT2007: is for me... i can do everything i need from bash
[04:47] <ademan> is autotools the most relevant make system still?  Should i bother learning CMake?  Or some other make system?
[04:47] <|Amon|> maybe u need to study bash?
[04:47] <hackit_error> how can i make it look cooler
[04:47] <unikon> he doesnt like the mac look
[04:47] <VMT2007> i'm a tcsh man
[04:47] <hackit_error> ubuntu looks like the macs' os
[04:47] <Music_Shuffle> ...
[04:47] <VMT2007> oh he did NOT just say that
[04:48] <cyphase> huh? it does
[04:48] <DarthLappy> hackit_error: So change it?
[04:48] <darksmiley> yo!
[04:48] <userundefine> hackit_error, you can make linux look like anything you want it to.
[04:48] <Music_Shuffle> No, Gnome looks like OSX.
[04:48] <cyphase> because it has abar on top?
[04:48] <hackit_error> how
[04:48] <Music_Shuffle> Change it.
[04:48] <cyphase> a bar*
[04:48] <bradley> has anyone had a problem burning data-dvd's i never been able to do it (since breezy) but i can't find a fix. other people on the forums have the same issue, but if they get it fixed they don't give the howto.
[04:48] <Music_Shuffle> Don't just...complain.
[04:48] <VMT2007> GNOME does not look like OS X.
[04:48] <holycow> !art
[04:48] <darksmiley> gnome does look a bit OSX-y yeah =)
[04:48] <unikon> goto applications then settings
[04:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about art - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:48] <holycow> !theme
[04:48] <cyphase> VMT2007: i agree
[04:48] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[04:48] <|Amon|> dont feed the troll
[04:48] <VMT2007> it looks more like a cow.
[04:48] <bradley> if someone could help me fix this i would be very grateful.
 hi
 i'm trying to modify a python script
 (smack.py)
 that lets one change desktops by hitting the side of their thinkpads
 i'm trying to make it compatible with beryl using the DBUS calls
 however, whenever i try making a call
[04:48] <VMT2007> an awesome dairy cow
 i get this message:
 Failed to open connection to session message bus: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[04:48] <cyphase> VMT2007: it has a bar on the top of the screen (in Ubuntu), but that's about it
 anyone have any ideas about what's wrong?
[04:48] <VMT2007> nikhil: do not paste
[04:48] <userundefine> nikhil, no need to spam the chat dude.
[04:48] <nikhil> ok ok
[04:48] <nikhil> i'll retype
[04:48] <Music_Shuffle> !pastebin | Nikhil
[04:48] <ubotu> Nikhil: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:48] <userundefine> !pastebin > nikhil
[04:48] <Music_Shuffle> >_<
[04:48] <Music_Shuffle> I WINZ.
[04:49] <tolldog> ok, so its not the video that caused my problem, the hp laptop needed noapic to boot
[04:49] <VMT2007> aha.
[04:49] <nikhil> oh
[04:49] <userundefine> :(
[04:49] <nikhil> got it
[04:49] <darksmiley> i have an XGL question... i have just installed it using synaptic... what is the easiest way to use it?
[04:49] <holycow> !xgl
[04:49] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:49] <userundefine> darksmiley, you need a composite manager to actually do anything with xgl.
[04:49] <cyphase> #beryl
[04:49] <holycow> darksmiley, not really supported here
[04:50] <darksmiley> oh, i don't think gnome has a composite manager does it? i thought that was just KDE... =S
[04:50] <darksmiley> how does it work?
[04:50] <cyphase> darksmiley: take a look at http://www.beryl-project.com/ or #beryl
[04:50] <VMT2007> wow
[04:50] <VMT2007> scrolling in firefox lags
[04:50] <Eldanen> Anyone know about the MCP55s? ;/
[04:50] <userundefine> darksmiley, you can install beryl.  follow the links people pasted
[04:50] <VMT2007> do I need to get better graphics drivers
[04:50] <darksmiley> oh, ubuntu-xgl
[04:50] <bradley> anyone have a problem burning dvd's?  with this warning: 'unhandled error'.
[04:50] <hackit_error> ok so what now
[04:51] <Music_Shuffle> ...ubuntu is not so much about holding your hand..
[04:51] <cyphase> hackit_error: what now what?
[04:51] <Music_Shuffle> Lol
[04:51] <hackit_error> do i do
[04:51] <cyphase> about?
[04:51] <Music_Shuffle> About what?
[04:51] <cyphase> you need to tell us what's bothering you about ubuntu
[04:51] <holycow> hackit_error, why don't you just go use windows
[04:51] <cyphase> then we can help
[04:51] <hackit_error> what is the difference with dapper and edgy
[04:51] <nikhil> hi all
[04:51] <Music_Shuffle> holycow, roflllllll
[04:51] <nikhil> i'm trying to modify a script
[04:51] <nikhil> (smack.py)
[04:51] <userundefine> hackit_error, one has packages that are 6 months newer
[04:51] <cyphase> hackit_error: edgy has more up-to-date software
[04:51] <TheDebugger> hackit_error: edgy is the current version
[04:51] <VMT2007> hackit_error: edgy is "experimental"
[04:52] <holycow> your really not interested in actually learning, you are more suited to talk smack with that group of people
[04:52] <Music_Shuffle> That's like...the meanest insult in here.
[04:52] <nikhil> that lets a person hit the side of their thinkpad in order to
[04:52] <VMT2007> NOTE the quotes
[04:52] <cyphase> hackit_error: and it's overall faster, slicker, etc
[04:52] <holycow> it will save both of us a headache
[04:52] <nikhil> change desktops
[04:52] <nikhil> i'm trying to mod it to work in beryl
[04:52] <nikhil> using DBUS commands
[04:52] <Music_Shuffle> Indeed. I sorta vote with holycow honestly. Show SOME initiative.
[04:52] <nikhil> but when i try, i get a weird error:
[04:52] <nikhil> Failed to open connection to session message bus: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[04:52] <nikhil> i was wondering
[04:52] <hackit_error> red hat
[04:53] <nikhil> if anyone had some ideas
[04:53] <ablyss> i only had one small problem w/ edgy.. the symlink of /bin/sh was pointing to /bin/dash instead of the usual /bin/bash .. easy enough to change but took me a while to hunt down why my cgi scripts where going nuts
[04:53] <nikhil> about what the problem is?
[04:53] <hackit_error> linspire
[04:53] <unikon> heck no
[04:53] <|Amon|> linspire
[04:53] <|Amon|> lol
[04:53] <__mikem> linspire is an insult to linux
[04:53] <hackit_error> ok
[04:53] <DarthLappy> !enter > nikhil
[04:53] <VMT2007> scrolling in web pages seems to be too...
[04:53] <VMT2007> slow
[04:53] <|Amon|> the only decent product from red hat is the enterprise server... fedora project sucks
[04:53] <nikhil> !enter > nikhil?
[04:53] <hackit_error> mandriva
[04:54] <VMT2007> |Amon|: I had CentOS on my laptop
[04:54] <VMT2007> It sucked horribly
[04:54] <|Amon|> CentOS does suck
[04:54] <cyphase> hackit_error: any new operating system takes some initiative to learn. if you want linux to be just like windows, use windows. Linux is NOT a version of windows, thankfully
[04:54] <DarthLappy> Indeed... *Should* get the bot to send something to you... But I don't actually know :)
[04:54] <holycow> what cyphase
[04:54] <|Amon|> but it's a server operating system, not a desktop OS
[04:54] <hackit_error> what about mandriva
[04:54] <holycow> we also don't care if anyone at all uses linux
[04:54] <Music_Shuffle> __mikem, I saw linspire installed on an OEM desktop at Fry's the other day. I was like 'Wtf..'
[04:54] <VMT2007> if you want user-friendly stability
[04:54] <userundefine> what about it
[04:54] <holycow> its not here to take over the world
[04:54] <VMT2007> get Mac OS X
[04:54] <VMT2007> and in that case you'd just need a Mac.
[04:55] <|Amon|> but hes too cheap
[04:55] <VMT2007> :P
[04:55] <|Amon|> :x
[04:55] <cyphase> holycow: it would be nice if more people did
[04:55] <Music_Shuffle> If macs were cheaper...I'd consider it. :o
[04:55] <cyphase> holycow: gives us more market clout
[04:55] <VMT2007> Sell your equipment and your soul
[04:55] <nikhil> Here's my 1 liner: I'm trying to modify a script (smack.py) using dbus commands to make it work with beryl, but whenever i try, i get a message which says "Failed to open connection to session message bus: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.". Does anyone ha
[04:55] <nikhil> ve any ideas as to why i'm getting this message?
[04:55] <VMT2007> then you can afford the down payment for a Mac.
[04:55] <VMT2007> :)
[04:55] <unikon> hackit if u want to look at alot of the different versions of linux
[04:55] <holycow> cyphase, eventually, we haveto build a network of local support groups and businesses
[04:55] <unikon>  look at www.distrowatch.com
[04:55] <nikhil> dammit, it became 2 lines
[04:55] <nikhil> w/e
[04:55] <Music_Shuffle> cyphase, and directly increases the proportion of people who want their hands held. >_<
[04:55] <VMT2007> He can get a Mac mini
[04:55] <voraistos> Good Oses: Debian, Ubuntu, and a bit of gentoo
[04:55] <derek_> Hi
[04:55] <VMT2007> $600
[04:55] <VMT2007> gentoo is horrible
[04:55] <Music_Shuffle> Yeah, but that's...MINI. ;P
[04:55] <holycow> cyphase, after that i estimate we can get 50% of the non gaming public easily and a large chunk of the business world
[04:55] <VMT2007> If you want to compile everything just go with a BSD
[04:55] <kitche>   !offtopic
[04:55] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:55] <cyphase> holycow: my dad runs a computer shop
[04:56] <ablyss> the main driving force behind linux is its free ( GNU ) applications..  imho, that's all and only why we are here, to support free software
[04:56] <voraistos> nah gentoo's nice ifyou like compiling stuff.
[04:56] <cyphase> holycow: i'm trying to wean him off windows
[04:56] <derek_> Can the updates be paused, and the computer shutdown, and the updates resumed later?
[04:56] <Music_Shuffle> derek_, I wouldn't personally.
[04:56] <holycow> cyphase, neato
[04:56] <VMT2007> derek_: bad idea
[04:56] <cyphase> holycow: as for gaming, with more users, we'll get the games
[04:56] <|Amon|> cyphase: Windows has a purpose
[04:56] <VMT2007> it doesn't take too long with a decent broadband connection
[04:56] <thoreauputic> guys, distro discussion --> #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:56] <derek_> OKay, but I have to :/
[04:56] <holycow> cyphase, indeed
[04:56] <derek_> and I started the update already
[04:56] <cyphase> |Amon|: i agree
[04:56] <holycow> games will probably be last
[04:56] <Eldanen> Is there a 2.6.18 kernel in the Ubuntu repos?
[04:56] <VMT2007> not really. game developers are developing more games for Linux
[04:56] <Eldanen> For Edgy Eft?
[04:57] <holycow> cyphase, we need A LOT of dedicated users with cash first then the game companies will come
[04:57] <cyphase> |Amon|: i don't mean to imply Widnows should go away. sompetition is better for everyone
[04:57] <cyphase> holycow: yes
[04:57] <|Amon|> i don't think windows is competition at all
[04:57] <thoreauputic> I repeat: non-ubuntu discussion -> -offtopic
[04:57] <derek_> How to have multiple monitors working?
[04:57] <|Amon|> two diff markets altogether
[04:57] <|Amon|> imo.
[04:57] <VMT2007> derek_: as in using the same desktop across two monitors?
[04:57] <|Amon|> we need to quit worrying about making nix more "like windows"
[04:57] <cyphase> |Amon|: i don't know about that..
[04:57] <VMT2007> !offtopic
[04:57] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:57] <cyphase> |Amon|: a lot of people switch from windows to linux every day
[04:58] <Music_Shuffle> We need to quit worrying about non-support in this channel. :P
[04:58] <cyphase> |Amon|: my mom included :P
[04:58] <thoreauputic> OK final plea - offtopic or be muted
[04:58] <|Amon|> cyphase: and a lot end up going back to windows because linux isn't what they thought it would be : a Windows replacement
[04:58] <|Amon|> it's not
[04:58] <Music_Shuffle> ...
[04:58] <thoreauputic> .opme
[04:58] <feross> mute ! mute ! mute ! haha
[04:58] <cyphase> sorry about the offtopic chat
[04:59] <thoreauputic> sorry but I will have to act if you don't stop with the oftopic stuff
[04:59] <thoreauputic> OK
[04:59] <VMT2007> __mikem: they hide in the shadows.
[04:59] <VMT2007> anyway
[04:59] <tritium> voraistos: not true
[04:59] <thoreauputic> __mikem: a lot of people weren't around when I lived here ;-)
[04:59] <VMT2007> derek_: you want to use two different workspaces with two different monitors?
[04:59] <Music_Shuffle> __mikem, ./didn't either. But nobody is asking a question right now =[
[04:59] <derek_> VMT2007: yes
[05:00] <VMT2007> synergy
[05:00] <voraistos> tritium yes i am afraid it is. support we give here is for nix noobs; not ubuntu support.
[05:00] <derek_> VMT2007: yeah
[05:00] <tritium> voraistos: not really, nor is that the intent
[05:00] <Aggrav8d> i've got apache2 running on ubuntu 6.10 server.  iptables is empty, apache is definitely running but "nc -v localhost 80" never produces any kind of welcome message, it just says "localhost [127.0.0.1]  80 (www) open" and then sits there for ever.
[05:00] <Aggrav8d> anyone know why?
[05:00] <|Amon|> voraistos: i have a friend who comes here because ppl in other channels ignore him and he doesnt even use ubuntu
[05:00] <|Amon|> lol
[05:00] <thoreauputic> Music_Shuffle: new people can be put off asking if the offtoic stuff is scrolling by
[05:00] <Aggrav8d> the only thing I've tried to do is add a virtual host.
[05:00] <Music_Shuffle> voraistos, Well, that's because its the default channel. We give a lot of help to actual people in need.
[05:00] <VMT2007> oh wait
[05:00] <Music_Shuffle> Oh. Right. :-X
[05:01] <VMT2007> synergy shares different machines with the same keyboard/monitor/mouse right
[05:01] <cu83> hey, how do i disable exec  sheild?
[05:01] <DarthLappy> Aggrav8d: I don't think httpds send anything like that...
[05:01] <thoreauputic> VMT2007: yes, it rocks :)
[05:01] <|Amon|> late
[05:01] <|Amon|> im tired, just dug my car outta 6 ' of snow
[05:02] <VMT2007> hmm.
[05:02] <thoreauputic> VMT2007: actually afaik not the monitors
[05:02] <cu83> how do i set  exec-shield-randomize to  0?
[05:02] <thoreauputic> VMT2007: but the mouuse and keyboard go with the mouse focus
[05:02] <VMT2007> cyphase: XDMCP? :P
[05:02] <DarthLappy> Aggrav8d: They just wait for the client (browser) to send what they need. Try entering an HTTP command if you want to check, or use a browser like w3m?
[05:02] <cyphase> lol
[05:02] <derek_> VMT2007: in windows I could easily extend the desktop to the other monitor attached..
[05:02] <VMT2007> derek_: everything's easier with windows, man
[05:02] <cyphase> |Amon|: Colorado?
[05:02] <VMT2007> doing anything in linux means downloading 1000 packages
[05:03] <VMT2007> but it's so worth it
[05:03] <cu83> could someone please help me?
[05:03] <derek_> ok, how to do it now here?
[05:03] <htt> :/  trying to fix the delay on internet connections i screwed it up totaly now..  wont connect to anything through anything
[05:03] <cyphase> VMT2007: what do you mean?
[05:03] <|Amon|> !offtopic
[05:03] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:03] <|Amon|> jk
[05:03] <htt> does the instruction there https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4 actually work?
[05:03] <__mikem> @lart |Amon| for kidding
[05:04] <cu83> can  someone give me a hand?
[05:04] <bradley> i can't burn data-dvds, if i pasted my hdparm would anyone be willing to look it over to see if there are any glaring errors?
[05:04] <VMT2007> !xinerama
[05:04] <ubotu> xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[05:04] <VMT2007> like that?
[05:04] <cyphase> cu83: don't ask to ask, just ask
[05:04] <lifepositive> hello
[05:04] <derek_> How can I find out which version of some program apt-get is going to install?
[05:04] <lifepositive> how can I get Gnomebaker to burn Audio CD's?
[05:04] <tritium> __mikem: hello
[05:04] <voraistos> |Amon| All these snow related problems you have could easily be sorted if you had gentoo. Take a nice PC (with the Athlon 1GHz inside) near your car. Install gentoo. Compile loads of stuff as usual; come back, and enjoy the non-existence of snow around your car.
[05:05] <derek_> VMT2007: yes
[05:05] <VMT2007> as in
[05:05] <jedix> does anyone know how to get nvidia 97xx drivers to change refresh rates?
[05:05] <ABrandi> Pardon me folks! How might I compile a .bin file ?
[05:05] <ABrandi> or, I should say, implement
[05:05] <voraistos> aha
[05:05] <cu83> haha i did
[05:05] <|Amon|> voraistos: i just let my dog eat it all
[05:05] <cu83> =P
[05:05] <VMT2007> well, like those HUGE displays at stores where you have an image split across several screens that form one huge screen?
[05:05] <cyphase> ABrandi: .bin files are already compiled
[05:05] <Aggrav8d> DarthLappy - could the problem have anything to do with the message "could not determin the server's fully qualified domain name, using [lan ip]  for ServerName" ?
[05:05] <cu83> how do i set  exec-shield-randomize to 0?
[05:05] <derek_> VMT2007: yes
[05:05] <ABrandi> Thanks cyphase, how do I utilize the program though? My computer thinks its an abiword.
[05:06] <VMT2007> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[05:06] <Aggrav8d> DarthLappy - because i set the ServerName in the virtualhost block.
[05:06] <DarthLappy> Aggrav8d: Not at all. Try the command: w3m localhost
[05:06] <lifepositive>  !gnomebaker
[05:06] <ubotu> gnomebaker: application for CD/DVD creation in the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 991 kB, installed size 2964 kB
[05:06] <cyphase> ABrandi: try using the terminal
[05:06] <lifepositive> !gnomebaker
[05:06] <htt> :(
[05:06] <cyphase> ABrandi: it's faster then fixing it with the gui
[05:06] <thoreauputic> cu83: maybe no-one knows right now - try asking again in around ten minutes, or maybe send your question to the mailing list
[05:06] <ABrandi> what's the command cyphase?
[05:06] <VMT2007> mailing lists...
[05:06] <cu83> k
[05:06] <VMT2007> so archaic
[05:06] <cyphase> ABrandi: just type the files name
[05:06] <idlemind> lol
[05:06] <cyphase> path*
[05:06] <thoreauputic> VMT2007: not at all
[05:07] <ABrandi> oh, solid, I'll try it, thank you!
[05:07] <Ardonik> VMT2007: Au contraire.  They actually have threading, unlike IRC and web fora.
[05:07] <VMT2007> oh?
[05:07] <thoreauputic> VMT2007: some of the most clueful people in the community are on the lists
[05:07] <VMT2007> true though
[05:07] <Kim^J> Hey all. Where do I put export VARIABLE so that it's system wide?
[05:07] <Ardonik> You get more insightful commentary on mailing lists and newsgroups than you do anywhere else.  Often, references are even provided.
[05:07] <derek_> VMT2007: thx
[05:07] <Ardonik> Kim^J: try /etc/profile.
[05:08] <ABrandi> cyphase: it doesn't seem to recognize it as a command?
[05:08] <lifepositive> when I try to burn an Audio CD with Gnomebaker, it says: The plugin to handle a file of type audio/x-wav is not installed.  Any solution please?
[05:08] <Kim^J> Ardonik: It doesn't work for KDE Keyboard actions. :(
[05:08] <Ardonik> Though that might be for interactive or login shells only.
[05:08] <Ardonik> man bash to the rescue, as usual.
[05:08] <Aggrav8d> DarthLappy - w3m is happy
[05:08] <VMT2007> info > man imo
[05:08] <voraistos> Well, when you have an advanced problem, you better go on a mailing list, coz on IRC youll end up helpin people and not yourself :) Just like i did :P
[05:09] <VMT2007> very true
[05:09] <Kim^J> Why man bash Ardonik ?
[05:09] <Ardonik> VMT2007: agreed, info > man.
[05:09] <VMT2007> i hate typing man mount.
[05:09] <Kim^J> Ardonik: I don't even use bash.
[05:09] <Ardonik> Kim^J: Because it explains what .bashrc, .profile, /etc/profile, and the rest do.
[05:09] <thoreauputic> Kim^J: then man $SHELL you use :)
[05:09] <Ardonik> Kim^J: find the equivalent for your sh, I suppose.
[05:09] <DarthLappy> Aggrav8d: :)
[05:10] <bradley> here is my hdparm just in case someone can find something about why i can't burn dvd's
[05:10] <bradley> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38308/
[05:10] <|Amon|> voraistos: then your question ends up getting ignored unless you act like a noob.
[05:10] <Aggrav8d> DarthLappy - but i still can't access it from outside the lan.  i try using the domain name (www.marginallyclver.com) and it times out.
[05:10] <Aggrav8d> the domain nslookup is correct and port forwarding is set up
[05:11] <thoreauputic> |Amon|: on mailing lists, on the contrary, good questions are more likely to be answered
[05:11] <voraistos> ok. so instead of talking about LVM i should talk about c: and d: ?
[05:11] <DarthLappy> Aggrav8d: Did you just mistype your domain?
[05:11] <|Amon|> thoreauputicq: thought we were talking about irc
[05:11] <Aggrav8d> yeah.
[05:11] <|Amon|> my bad
[05:11] <Aggrav8d> www.marginallyclever.com
[05:11] <Aggrav8d> sorry
[05:11] <thoreauputic> |Amon|: i might have missed something - I often do ;-)
[05:12] <|Amon|> ditto
[05:12] <voraistos> hey were not like ubotu
[05:12] <vox754> !ubotu
[05:13] <voraistos> did it crash ?
[05:13] <voraistos> ubotu you damn bot wake up !
[05:13] <vox754> !X
[05:13] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:13] <lifepositive> when I try to burn an Audio CD with Gnomebaker, it says: The plugin to handle a file of type audio/x-wav is not installed.  Any solution please?
[05:13] <voraistos> aaaaaah
[05:14] <vox754> !gnomebaker
[05:14] <ubotu> gnomebaker: application for CD/DVD creation in the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 991 kB, installed size 2964 kB
[05:14] <xipietotec> !gps
[05:14] <ubotu> gps: Graphical Process Statistics using GTK+. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.0-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 116 kB, installed size 372 kB
[05:14] <xipietotec> darnit
[05:14] <vox754> !GPS
[05:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about GPS - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:14] <VMT2007> heh, my college has a LUG
[05:14] <VMT2007> I do not partake
[05:14] <Reilithion> Hi.  I'm looking for a program that'll let me send a file to my friend.  I'd love to use Gaim, but for some reason none of the accounts we have let us actually transfer files.  I also tried setting up an FTP server, but it didn't work.
[05:14] <VMT2007> GPS as in navigation.
[05:14] <VMT2007> ?
[05:15] <xipietotec> okay...is there a program for interfacing with a GPS device?
[05:15] <VMT2007> Reilithion: e-mail?
[05:15] <xipietotec> yes, gps as in navigation
[05:15] <mzuverink_> I use dyndns  and need to have a fqdn, can that be set to what I use with dyndns, and if so, how?
[05:15] <Reilithion> VMT2007: Yuck.  Out of the question.
[05:15] <VMT2007> Reilithion: rapidshare?
[05:15] <|Amon|> ReinH: Gmail.
[05:15] <voraistos> Reilithion: make your ftp run on port 80
[05:15] <vox754> !ftp
[05:15] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[05:15] <IdleOne> I installed the sun-java5-jre but firefox keeps telling me I need to install JRE. am I missing something?
[05:15] <VMT2007> Reilithion: I have a pretty high-bandwidth but high-latency solution
[05:15] <VMT2007> Burn a DVD and put it in the postal mail.
[05:15] <Reilithion> lol
[05:15] <gizim> lol
[05:16] <Reilithion> nice
[05:16] <xipietotec> Reilithion: http://www.mytempdir.com will temporarily host any file up to 50mb
[05:16] <jedix> how do I get a list of supported modes from my monitor?
[05:16] <Reilithion> What's rapidshare?
[05:16] <|Amon|> VMT2007: i've had friends send me whole copies of hdds... dvds are nothing.
[05:16] <VMT2007> Google it
[05:16] <jedix> they used to be put in /var/log/Xorg.log.0 but not in ubuntu..
[05:16] <Music_Shuffle> IdleOne, there's a sep. package for the FF plugin for it.
[05:16] <VMT2007> I forgot the URL
[05:16] <vox754> !X
[05:16] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:16] <GiZiM> Where is the banner for ssh located? Noob +1
[05:16] <IdleOne> Music_Shuffle, you know what it is?
[05:16] <DarthLappy> Aggrav8d: nmap calls p80 there filtered.
[05:16] <vox754> !xorg.conf
[05:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xorg.conf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:16] <Music_Shuffle> No, its like mozilla-flash or something or the other.
[05:17] <thoreauputic> GiZiM: probably /etc/issue.net
[05:17] <Music_Shuffle> Just search for 'mozilla flash'
[05:17] <GiZiM> Thanks
[05:17] <VMT2007> I wonder though, what's faster: sending a DVD across the country through first-class domestic mail, or downloading the DVD image with a dial-up connection?
[05:17] <kotaro_kuroudo> ``````````````
[05:17] <bruenig> Reilithion, why not create a torrent, and then seed it to him
[05:17] <BrettMeister> Hi, there....
[05:17] <holycow> first class mail actually
[05:17] <vox754> "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[05:17] <Reilithion> bruenig: That sounds like a great option.  Do I have to run a tracker on my system as well?
[05:17] <thoreauputic> GiZiM: you have to put your banner there though
[05:17] <IdleOne> VMT2007, mail would be faster
[05:17] <BrettMeister> Does the linux Opera browser work well with Ubuntu?
[05:17] <holycow> or as the old sys admin joke goes ' never underestimate the bandwidth of a van filled with bakup tapes'
[05:17] <voraistos> VMT2007: whatif you use a hard drive instead of a DVD ?
[05:17] <bruenig> Reilithion, no just put on an already existing tracker
[05:18] <vox754> !rapidshare
[05:18] <thoreauputic> !opera
[05:18] <VMT2007> too expensive? :P
[05:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rapidshare - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:18] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[05:18] <VMT2007> whoa we're getting carried away
[05:18] <|Amon|> holycow: lol
[05:18] <bruenig> Reilithion, put it on thepriatebay.com, they have a tracker and will allow you to put up anything
[05:18] <VMT2007> BrettMeister: definitely
[05:18] <VMT2007> Reilithion: How big is the file?
[05:18] <Music_Shuffle> holycow, station wagon**!
[05:18] <BrettMeister> Thanks.  I'm having more and more questions about the security of all of the Mozilla products.
[05:19] <VMT2007> BrettMeister: Firefox is very secure
[05:19] <vox754> !Mozilla
[05:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Mozilla - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:19] <vox754> !Firefox
[05:19] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[05:19] <voraistos> VMT2007: its a jpeg 320x200 ..... lol
[05:19] <mzuverink_> How do I set a fqdn?
[05:19] <bruenig> Reilithion, you can put it on some really obscure name that nobody will ever want if you want to keep it private. I did it once, I think I called it the 1990 Male Ice Dancing World Championship Qualifiers
[05:19] <Reilithion> VMT2007: I'm basically looking for something that'll replace my way of transferring files completely, so I'll want to transfer files both large and small.
[05:19] <VMT2007> an image? just use imageshack
[05:19] <Aggrav8d> DarthLappy - filtered? wazzatmean?
[05:20] <vox754> !fqdn
[05:20] <VMT2007> Reilithion: any manner of directly transferring a file between two computers requires ports to be mapped
[05:20] <DarthLappy> Aggrav8d: Can't get through...
[05:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fqdn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:20] <VMT2007> more and more people have NAT routers
[05:20] <voraistos> Reilithion: nfs over internet
[05:20] <VMT2007> and less people know how to configure them
[05:20] <vox754> !nat
[05:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:20] <DarthLappy> Aggrav8d: I can't actually ping that domain though ^_^ Looks like you're blocking that... :(
[05:20] <VMT2007> best option is to just host an FTP server
[05:20] <BrettMeister> Thanks for the courtesy, folks.  Just what I have grown to expect from the Ubuntu community.
[05:20] <Reilithion> voraistos: I hear nfs is pretty gnarly.
[05:20] <vox754> !NAT
[05:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about NAT - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:20] <vox754> !nfs
[05:20] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[05:21] <GiZiM> Is there a way to dump to the console from BitchX?
[05:21] <mzuverink_> !hostname
[05:21] <ubotu> Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly
[05:21] <VMT2007> Reilithion: Or you can get some webspace :P
[05:21] <Aggrav8d> DarthLappy - yeah, i can't ping localhost.  i have no idea how it's being blocked.
[05:21] <VMT2007> gizim: please don't
[05:21] <VMT2007> !pastebin GiZiM
[05:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebin GiZiM - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:21] <voraistos> !nfs is when you imagine yourself, owner of huge servers interconnected with fiber optics :)
[05:21] <VMT2007> !pastebin| GiZiM
[05:21] <ubotu> GiZiM: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:21] <Aggrav8d> DarthLappy - sorry, i can't ping www.marginallyclever.com either.  i can ping localhost.
[05:21] <kitche> VMT2007: don't know why you telling huim to use pastebing when he wants to go the opposite way
[05:21] <voraistos> !ubuntu
[05:21] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[05:21] <GiZiM> Oh no no not dump text into bitchx i mean leave bitchx running and i switch to the console im ssh'd to my box
[05:22] <VMT2007> oh
[05:22] <stephan21> anyone know of a good way to convert pngs to xpm
[05:22] <VMT2007> screen
[05:22] <thoreauputic> GiZiM: check out GNU screen
[05:22] <vox754> !gimp
[05:22] <ubotu> An advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[05:22] <|Amon|> advanced
[05:22] <|Amon|> lol
[05:22] <thoreauputic> !screen| GiZiM
[05:22] <ubotu> GiZiM: screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[05:22] <VMT2007> most installations come with screen installed by now
[05:22] <magusknight> What's the best media player?
[05:22] <voraistos> stephn21: i think xpm is vector graphics...
[05:22] <vox754> !vlc
[05:22] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[05:22] <VMT2007> magusknight: that really depends
[05:22] <|Amon|> Magilla: I like VNC.
[05:23] <|Amon|> vlc
[05:23] <DarthLappy> Aggrav8d: Possibly a router thing then?
[05:23] <|Amon|> magusknight*
[05:23] <Magilla> |Amon|: cool ;P
[05:23] <thoreauputic> !info screen | GiZiM
[05:23] <ubotu> screen: a terminal multiplexor with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation. In component main, is optional. Version 4.0.2-4.1ubuntu5.6.10 (edgy), package size 570 kB, installed size 976 kB
[05:23] <vox754> !codecs
[05:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:23] <|Amon|> ;c
[05:24] <vox754> !mplayer
[05:24] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[05:24] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[05:24] <VMT2007> now to kick my computer until the sound works
[05:24] <VMT2007> brb
[05:24] <Aggrav8d> darth - router is a dlink POS but routing appears to be set up correctly.
[05:24] <Ardonik> I prefer Audacious.  BMP is old (they're working on BMPx now.)
[05:24] <GiZiM> !beryl
[05:24] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[05:24] <Ardonik> Audacious is the GTK2 fork of XMMS that still carries the flag of the old guard.
[05:24] <vox754> !Audacious
[05:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Audacious - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:24] <VMT2007> NFS over wireless loves to crash my router
[05:24] <VMT2007> stupid.
[05:24] <Ardonik> You'll like it.
[05:24] <vox754> !bmp
[05:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bmp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:25] <vox754> !banshee
[05:25] <VMT2007> it keeps me entertained
[05:25] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[05:25] <VMT2007> banshee is like iTunes
[05:25] <DarthLappy> Aggrav8d: Okay. Well, I'm not terribly sure. I think you'll have to make sure your router is doing what it's asked :)
[05:25] <VMT2007> doesn't shut the hell up until you tell it to :\
[05:25] <VMT2007> anyway
[05:26] <VMT2007> graphics don't render well on my laptop
[05:26] <VMT2007> it's a VIA VN800 with edgy
[05:26] <vox754> !via
[05:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about via - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:26] <voraistos> I apt-get, You apt-get, He apt-gets, .........
[05:26] <VMT2007> gee thanks, i've looked everywhere and I can't find any documentation
[05:26] <vox754> !X
[05:26] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:26] <VMT2007> that isn't the problem
[05:26] <trinkolade> Banshee looks like almost exactly like Rhythmbox oO and I didn't know about it. Is it good?
[05:26] <VMT2007> and i'm looking for support, not manuals thrown at me
[05:27] <Aggrav8d> DarthLappy - no idea how, the admin panel says it's doing what it should.
[05:27] <VMT2007> i've looked everywhere
[05:27] <VMT2007> openchrome doesn't work, the driver installed with synaptic doesn't work
[05:28] <DarthLappy> Aggrav8d: I have a DLink modem/router, and it doesn't behave very well through the admin panel. Telnet is the only trustworthy way.
[05:28] <GiZiM> My kingdom to get my RTL8187 wireless to work
[05:28] <GiZiM> Stupid new motherboards with built in wireless cards
[05:29] <thoreauputic> !wifi
[05:29] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:29] <GiZiM> I tried all i can try im almost at doing crack
[05:29] <mistone_> I just changed graphics cards is there a way to automajagicly reconfigure my xorg.conf ?
[05:29] <falaris> i
[05:29] <falaris> hello
[05:30] <vox754> !X
[05:30] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:30] <voraistos> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:31] <thoreauputic> mistone_: what voraistos said, with sudo in front of it :)
[05:31] <xipietotec> how do I find mounted devices?
[05:31] <Aggrav8d> DarthLappy - how do you telnet your commands to it?
[05:31] <mistone_> yea
[05:31] <PeanutHorst> xipietotec: cat /etv/fsta
[05:31] <vox754> !mount
[05:31] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[05:31] <PeanutHorst> cat /etc/fstab
[05:31] <DarthLappy> Aggrav8d: telnet 10.1.1.1, login, help!
[05:31] <thoreauputic> xipietotec: type mount in a terminal or run sudo fdisk -l to see all your devices
[05:31] <ablyss> shell comamnd 'df' shows mounted partitions
[05:31] <DarthLappy> Aggrav8d: Well, mine's at 10.1.1.1, anyway.
[05:31] <vox754> !df
[05:31] <ubotu> Graphical representations of where your disk-space is being used are: baobab (GNOME), filelight / kinfocenter (Kubuntu). On the terminal: df -h -T
[05:32] <vox754> !fdisk
[05:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fdisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:32] <xipietotec> thankyou! now if I only knew which one my GPS receiver was
[05:32] <ablyss> !du
[05:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about du - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:33] <GiZiM> Anybody know of a way to watch what someone is doing when they are remoted into the box? like if someone is remoted in thru ssh is there a way i can "watch" what they are doing?
[05:33] <mistone_> how do I figure out the bus ID for AGP cards?
[05:33] <thoreauputic> guys, ubotu doesn't knowevery *nix command :)
[05:33] <kitche> GiZiM: with screen
[05:33] <Aggrav8d> DarthLappy - pm
[05:33] <GiZiM> I need to read up on that
[05:34] <thoreauputic> GiZiM: did you note ubotu's URLs for screen info?
[05:34] <thoreauputic> !screen | GiZiM
[05:34] <ubotu> GiZiM: screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[05:34] <SeraVitae> has anyone here managed to get Imlib2 working in ubuntu?
[05:34] <GiZiM> Yeah i got it
[05:34] <GiZiM> Thanks
[05:34] <thoreauputic> OK
[05:34] <DarthLappy> Aggrav8d: Sure.
[05:34] <SeraVitae> when i configure it iget "fatal error: no FreeType detected" yet i have freetype installed
[05:34] <holycow> or you can just ctrl / shift / t to open up tabs in terminal
[05:35] <holycow> ctrl / shift / w to close tab
[05:35] <vox754> !shell
[05:35] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[05:35] <z9999> Does anyone know why Firefox 2 is not available on the package manager? The firefox web site claims it has been available for a while now.
[05:35] <vox754> !firefox
[05:35] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[05:35] <xipietotec> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38311/ if anyone could tell me which of those might be my GPS receiver (if any) It would be appreciated
[05:35] <velasco_> hi people, again
[05:35] <thoreauputic> z9999: it;s available in edgy
[05:35] <kitche> SeraVitae: why not just install the ubuntu pacakge?
[05:35] <kitche> z9999: also in dapper-backports
[05:36] <SeraVitae> kitche - because when I compile this piece of software, PiDiP, it says it can't find Imlib2.
[05:36] <SeraVitae> i have the associated Imlib2 package already installed
[05:36] <thoreauputic> SeraVitae: you need -dev packages, probably
[05:36] <kitche> SeraVitae: do you have the -dev package also? since it's looking for that
[05:36] <SeraVitae> I have those installed too
[05:36] <SeraVitae> wait
[05:37] <vox754> !dev
[05:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:37] <vox754> !Imlib2
[05:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Imlib2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:37] <thoreauputic> SeraVitae: try  apt-cache search imlib2 | grep dev
[05:37] <kitche> !fishing|vox754
[05:37] <ubotu> vox754: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[05:37] <velasco_> Is it really possible to install Berley's package in dapper release of Ubuntu?
[05:37] <thoreauputic> !info imlib2-dev
[05:37] <ubotu> Package imlib2-dev does not exist in any distro I know
[05:37] <thoreauputic> hmm
[05:37] <SeraVitae> Okay i found the problem
[05:38] <kitche> velasco_: Berley you mean beryl? and yes it is
[05:38] <SeraVitae> except now it's missing more packages heh. *sorts that out*
[05:38] <velasco_> ops... sorry... Beryl!
[05:38] <kitche> velasco_: beryl wiki tells you how to
[05:38] <z9999> We're running 6.06 and very new, so have been relying on the package manager to do all updates, which appears to require little or no knowledge on our part.
[05:38] <z9999> Thanks for the direction vox754, we will read that info and see if it doesn't solve the problem. Just trying to keep everything up to date and working well.
[05:39] <velasco_> I tried! But I couldn't find the package...
[05:39] <vox754> !beryl
[05:39] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[05:39] <velasco_> I did everything right.. I am sure
[05:40] <holycow> velasco_, we can't really help with very buggy pre alpha software
[05:40] <holycow> try the friendly beryl channels
[05:41] <velasco_> holycow, I see.
[05:41] <lupine_85> velasco_: yes, beryl can be installed in dapper
[05:41] <lupine_85> Trevinho has an SVN dapper repository
[05:41] <kitche> holycow: don't know why you call beryl pre alpha when it's not compzi is more pre alpha then beryl is
[05:41] <velasco_> Could you tell me what is the beryl channel, please?
[05:42] <lupine_85> velasco_: #ubuntu-xgl :) I'll be in there
[05:42] <velasco_> lupine_85, Trevinho?
[05:42] <vox754> !beryl
[05:42] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[05:42] <lupine_85> yeah. I'll get you the link
[05:42] <malt> since i installed a bandwidth cap on my ubuntu server on apache, does the site still load fast www.m4lt.com/~nugz/
[05:42] <holycow> kitche, because it is, because it is buggy and basically sucky.  its a great experiment and should be treated as such
[05:42] <velasco_> thanks people!
[05:42] <holycow> kitche, that way we can make sure that newbies don't end up expecting a finished s upported product, they go into the experience expecting to haveto deal with bugs
[05:43] <holycow> why do you think there are so many beryl questions here? its not because it works
[05:43] <holycow> -_-
[05:43] <xipietotec> anyone have any familiarity getting GPS receivers to work with Ubuntu?
[05:45] <kitche> holycow but it does work just that ubuntu doesn't have it in it's repos and such at least on an nvidia it works out of the box if you use the 9xxx drivers
[05:45] <holycow> no
[05:45] <holycow> it doesn't work
[05:45] <vox754> no
[05:45] <holycow> it works for some, sometimes
[05:45] <VMT2007> awesome my screen's blank
[05:46] <holycow> i think its important to know HOW to frame an idea
[05:46] <holycow> which is what that statement is all about
[05:46] <holycow> you want to downsell something you know will have issues
[05:47] <holycow> you want to upsell those things that really are proven to work well
[05:47] <robert_> holycow, it's holycow! :P
[05:47] <VMT2007> xipietotec: i've seen a GPS program in the repos
[05:47] <holycow> telling noobs anything other than its buggy and pre alpha i think is irresoponsible.  its great if they try it, they should simply have an understanding that some problems may arise
[05:47] <holycow> robert_, hola
[05:48] <robert_> :P
[05:48] <VMT2007> ugh
[05:48] <VMT2007> how do I get rid of that splash screen
[05:48] <vox754> !splash
[05:48] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image using !gconf-editor
[05:48] <VMT2007> not that
[05:48] <VMT2007> the "ubuntu" thing
[05:48] <Acu> Greetings, I want to buy a Laptop to run Ubuntu or Debian - I find strangely that the Laptops with Linux are more expensive than those with Windows - also I wonder whether Intel core 2 duo is better than Turion X2 - also I wonder if it is significant diference between Turion X2 and Turion
[05:48] <vox754> !grub
[05:48] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:49] <VMT2007> ugh
[05:49] <VMT2007> wow, don't even take time to listen
[05:49] <VMT2007> just pull out pretyped messages
[05:49] <vox754> !yes
[05:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:49] <holycow> VMT2007, that is the answer
[05:49] <VMT2007> I mean that thing that replaces the bootup sequence
[05:50] <holycow> VMT2007, you seriously believe you are the first one to ask the question?
[05:50] <VMT2007> just shows the ubuntu logo and that progress bar
[05:50] <holycow> correct
[05:50] <holycow> follow the instructions above pls
[05:50] <vox754> !boot
[05:50] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[05:50] <thoreauputic> VMT2007: change the quiet splash on the kernel line in /bott/grub/menu.lst
[05:50] <VMT2007> ah
[05:50] <thoreauputic> umm * /boot
[05:51] <VMT2007> a good answer for once.
[05:51] <VMT2007> that's all I needed, not redirection to a huge wiki page
[05:51] <thoreauputic> VMT2007: when did you first notice your attitude problem ? *grin*
[05:51] <VMT2007> I have one?
[05:51] <frogzoo> !patience | VMT2007
[05:51] <ubotu> VMT2007: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:51] <vox754> !bum
[05:51] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[05:51] <VMT2007> I just don't like it when people are being so condescending as to just throw a bunch of manuals at you
[05:52] <holycow> giving you answers isn't condascending
[05:52] <holycow> we do this for free
[05:52] <thoreauputic> VMT2007: we are trying - so are you :)
[05:52] <DarthLappy> Aggrav8d: ping?
[05:52] <holycow> we arent' here to holdyour hand or be friends with you or have a coffee and chat
[05:52] <holycow> you have questions we have answers
[05:52] <holycow> everyone asks exactly the same questions over and over and over
[05:52] <VMT2007> but that isn't an answer, that's just being directed to a manual
[05:53] <holycow> no that is the answer
[05:53] <VMT2007> it's like simply putting +m on the channel and changing the topic to the wiki URL
[05:53] <thoreauputic> VMT2007: chill, please
[05:53] <holycow> manuals hold all theinfo you need
[05:53] <holycow> VMT2007, in all acxtually you got it
[05:53] <holycow> this channel really doesn't need to exist, most of the info is actually on the wiki
[05:53] <frogzoo> usually the help pages are better explained & more complete & why should people have to reenter the same answers to the same questions again and again?
[05:53] <vox754> !sorry
[05:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sorry - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:53] <DarthLappy> holycow: Most. But some users need live support :)
[05:54] <holycow> DarthLappy, true, absolutely
[05:54] <vox754> !support
[05:54] <ubotu> For your support options, see http://www.ubuntu.com/support
[05:54] <vox754> !forums
[05:54] <VMT2007> besides I'm unfamiliar with grub and Linux as a whole -- I've been using FBSD a lot longer
[05:54] <ubotu> The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.
[05:54] <frogzoo> DarthLappy: the reason this channel works is because it allows users to be directed to the relevant docs
[05:55] <VMT2007> sometimes documentation doesn't cut it
[05:55] <thoreauputic> that's cool - but do realise that we do our best and there are 823 other people here
[05:55] <holycow> true but expecting someone else to do the reading for you
[05:55] <holycow> and spit out an answer is really not cool either
[05:55] <DarthLappy> frogzoo: True.
[05:55] <frogzoo> thoreauputic: not good enough - I want my money back :)
[05:55] <thoreauputic> OK I think the point has been made
[05:55] <thoreauputic> frogzoo: heheh - exactly :)
[05:56] <vox754> !users
[05:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about users - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:56] <VMT2007> anyway I'm sorry but I'm just too used to working with a seriously manual transmission computer, if that analogy fits
 Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
 Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[05:57] <thoreauputic> vox754: please don;t just guess what factoids ubotu mu=ight have in his brain :)
[05:57] <imperfectus> Anyone know if linux is trying to use my windows mobile device somehow ?
[05:57] <voraistos> lol dude calm down
[05:57] <imperfectus> mounting it or something such thing and how I could stop it
[05:57] <vox754> ?
[05:58] <imperfectus> Well
[05:58] <vox754> !mount
[05:58] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[05:58] <thoreauputic> !botabuse
[05:58] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[05:58] <imperfectus> I can't seem to get even basic functionality from the phone when I plug it
[05:58] <imperfectus> and I just want to use it under VMware
[05:58] <vox754> !Bot
[05:58] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:58] <thoreauputic> vox754: stop: NOW
[05:58] <voraistos> vox754 i was just pointing the fact that you basically act like a bot... Just cool off :) Reminds me of gnomefreak sometimes :P
[05:59] <vox754> !gnomefreak
[05:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnomefreak - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:59] <thoreauputic> vox754: I'll ungag you in aminute - stop abusing the bot
[06:00] <voraistos> botabuse.com pictures, videos, etc ...
[06:00] <lupine_85> poor bot
[06:01] <VMT2007> yeah, congesting the channel with that
[06:01] <voraistos> ubotu should join the bot liberation front one of these days.
[06:02] <thoreauputic> vox754: don't ping me, don't ctcp me
[06:02] <ubuntu> usually I use ubuntu (edgy) but my laptop went wrong the other day so I've been using my friends laptop which she lent me. I ordered kubuntu a few months back (the free cd's) and I have to say, i am *very* impressed with this kubuntu system, it is flawless!!... (Using 6.06 LTS)
[06:02] <mistone_>  ok so I got my nvidia DVI output connected to  a DVI to HDMI connected to my HD LCD TV
[06:02] <mistone_>  however I can't get the resolution higher then 800X600
[06:02] <VMT2007>  /silence him?
[06:03] <mistone_> WHAT DO I DO'S :(
[06:03] <lupine_85> 800x600 rings a bell as being the correct resolution for a TV...
[06:04] <mistone_> no no
[06:04] <mistone_> HD LCD TV
[06:04] <lupine_85> still, have you tried deleting all the modelines except the highest one ?
[06:04] <VMT2007> I'll help you #ubuntu style
[06:04] <VMT2007> !X
[06:04] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:04] <voraistos> rah cmon dude cheer up !
[06:04] <mistone_> I did all tht
[06:04] <ubuntu> is there any way of setting up XGL/compiz/ using the live CD of kubuntu?
[06:05] <lupine_85> ubuntu: only if it'll fit in the rather tight confines of the ramdisc
[06:05] <mistone_> it still says 800x600 and 640x480 only
[06:05] <lupine_85> still, worth a shot I guess. Just follow the wiki but /don't/ reboot :p
[06:05] <ubuntu> lupine_85:  well, I'll give it a try :).. using an ATI graphics card.
[06:05] <ubuntu> lupine_85:  lol, nah, that's assumed :P where'sthis wiki ?
[06:05] <voraistos> ubuntu: good luck
[06:06] <ubuntu> voraistos:  cheers!
[06:06] <voraistos> check out the radeon driver page on the wiki
[06:06] <VMT2007> hmm
[06:06] <lupine_85> wiki.beryl-project.org
[06:06] <VMT2007> you guys know how FreeBSD has the X configuration script?
[06:06] <voraistos> nope, i said that because i did most of it :P
[06:06] <ubuntu> lupine_85:  thanks
[06:06] <VMT2007> Xorg-config or something like that?
[06:06] <lupine_85> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-corg
[06:06] <VMT2007> does any package include it?
[06:06] <lupine_85> erm, xserver-core
[06:07] <lupine_85> IIRC
[06:07] <holycow> close
[06:07] <holycow> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:07] <mistone_> I already did tha
[06:07] <mistone_> *tha
[06:08] <holycow> mistone_, that was for VMT2007 i have no idea how to setup output for hdtv displays
[06:08] <VMT2007> they used to call it XFree86
[06:08] <mistone_> oh
[06:08] <VMT2007> now what's with this xorg thing
[06:08] <mistone_> same shiznat :O
[06:09] <slicky> *fart* :$
[06:09] <voraistos> xfree? is that still in dev ?
[06:09] <holycow> VMT2007, xorg forked off of xfree when the xfree maintainer decided to be a prick
[06:09] <holycow> or rather people just got tired of hime
[06:09] <holycow> since then xorg has modularized and worked on stuff that should of been done 10 years ago
[06:09] <holycow> i.e. catching up
[06:10] <VMT2007> alright i'm stuck
[06:10] <VMT2007> I have a synaptics mousepad
[06:10] <VMT2007> which mouse protocol is that
[06:10] <vox754> I read that in Ubuntu 6.06 it was /etc/XFree86/ but in 6.10 it is /etc/X11/
[06:10] <VMT2007> touchpad, rather. lol.
[06:11] <holycow> !synaptics
[06:11] <ubotu> For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[06:11] <voraistos> everything is there :)
[06:11] <holycow> VMT2007, i think you are getting the idea, try chatting ubotu also it will sav eyou time
[06:11] <ubuntu> vox754:  are you talking to me?.. i'm the guy using kubuntu and trying to get compiz/xgl to work on live cd
[06:12] <voraistos> nah dapper is /etc/X11
[06:12] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: vox754 has it wrong - both 6.06 and 6.10 use xoeg, not xfree86
[06:12] <thoreauputic> *xorg
[06:12] <ubuntu> thoreauputic:  what guide should I be following?.. could you link me?
[06:13] <vox754> I recently read something like that in the ubuntu gides for reconfiguring X
[06:13] <holycow> its been /etc/x11 since for ever
[06:13] <holycow> as far i know it has been like that since debian potato
[06:13] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: sorry i don't know about xgl etc - but I think there's a #ubuntu-xgl
[06:13] <VMT2007> please work...
[06:13] <VMT2007> oh awesome, stupid via driver
[06:13] <voraistos> yeah, ubuntu, unlike Debian, has always been using xorg. However i heard Debian had xorg in their comunity repos ?
[06:13] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: yes, just checked
[06:14] <thoreauputic> voraistos: debian sid has xorg, at least
[06:14] <Acu> HELP: I want to buy a Desktop and Laptop (Preferably with AMD X2) without OS or with Linux - so far what I found was $200 more expensive if you get it without  than if you buy it with windows - is puzzling - anyhow maybe someone have some good hints - I really appreciate anyhelp
[06:14] <ubuntu> thoreauputic:  im not great at linux, so, if you have any guide to help...
[06:15] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: try joining #ubuntu-xgl and asking the experts :)
[06:15] <idlemind> have you tried custom building on a vendors website
[06:15] <zspada15> where do i file bug reports for bots?
[06:15] <VMT2007> Acu: http://www.dell.com/linux
[06:15] <thoreauputic> zspada15: I think there are bot bugs on launchpad
[06:15] <voraistos> just talk to the bot, it will file report itself
[06:15] <thoreauputic> !launchpad
[06:15] <VMT2007> I wonder if any manufacturers do OEM ubuntu machines
[06:15] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[06:16] <holycow> Acu, build the desktop your self, you never really want to buy a name brand.  they will put whatever parts they want randomly into them so name brand boxes are useless
[06:16] <VMT2007> Acu: Have you looked at linuxcertified?
[06:16] <VMT2007> And yes, manufacturers like to throw in cheap parts.
[06:16] <VMT2007> very generic crap
[06:16] <holycow> Acu, for laptops stick with all intel chipsets and video as well.  asus sells laptops in kits as well that you can put together i can get you a link
[06:17] <thoreauputic> heh ubuntu waited a whole 2 minutes in #ubuntu-xgl before leaving...
[06:17] <VMT2007> yes, intel chipsets, definitely
[06:17] <voraistos> yeah intel rocks for laptops
[06:17] <VMT2007> AVOID via chipsets
[06:17] <VMT2007> at all costs
[06:17] <holycow> http://anitec.ca/product/6736/asus_z96js_intel_945pm_core_duo_barebone_notebook_*free_2nd_year_warranty_upgrade*/
[06:17] <holycow> you want a barebone system
[06:17] <holycow> that one is not intel chipset ... ati so stay away from that
[06:17] <VMT2007> dell is good though
[06:17] <holycow> but you want to start off iwth a barebone or go with as they said linux certified
[06:18] <VMT2007> Linuxcertified can sell you a laptop pre-configured with Debian
[06:18] <VMT2007> I'm not sure about Ubuntu, you'd probably have to pay them a bit
[06:18] <VMT2007> this via driver isn't working for crap, ugh
[06:18] <voraistos> no, dell is bad. They know what cheap parts are about.
[06:19] <Acu> holycow: I used to build workstations - nowadays if you have no "dealer price" you end up paying 20% more for the hardware - but I am willing to look at - let me follow this linuxcertified - so far were outrageusly expensive
[06:19] <VMT2007> thing is
[06:19] <holycow> Acu, the point is, if you look at the price of a barebone laptops, that is as cheap as you will get with laptops ... any EXACT SAME win laptop will cost 100 bucks more at least so you save right there
[06:19] <holycow> Acu, not true
[06:19] <Life> for some reason while shutting down the server
[06:19] <zspada15> isnt this a support channel?
[06:19] <holycow> Acu, i am a reseller, dealers don't make shit on components
[06:19] <Life> the server gets stuck at "Stopping postfix" and it just stays like that
[06:20] <Life> pressing ctrl+z, ctrl+X, or ctrl+c does nothing
[06:20] <thoreauputic> !patience
[06:20] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:20] <VMT2007> the companies that manufacture Linux systems are generally small and will typically be more expensive
[06:20] <Life> thanks in advance
[06:20] <holycow> Acu, we are actually starting to buy retail ... paying 8% markup is really not worth the time going through the signup process for becoming a reseller
[06:20] <zspada15> !offtopic
[06:20] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:22] <voraistos> yo
[06:22] <wason> hi
[06:23] <voraistos> Hello
[06:23] <wason> hello
[06:23] <vox754> I just checked what I said about X11 and XFree, I misinterpretation from my part.
[06:23] <kylevan> hey, does anyone have experience following the UndervoltingHowto for Edgy on the wiki?
[06:24] <wason> I'm searching for #ubuntu-th can anyone help?
[06:24] <VMT2007> thai?
[06:24] <wason> 
[06:24] <wason> yes thai
[06:24] <VMT2007> no clue man
[06:24] <Madpilot> !th
[06:24] <robert_> is there a way I can make the system motd not display for certain users?
[06:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about th - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:24] <VMT2007> !thai
[06:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thai - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:25] <voraistos> seems not to exist ...
[06:25] <Madpilot> wason, doesn't seem like there is an #ubuntu-th - but feel free to start one
[06:25] <VMT2007> sorry, i only speak english and spanish.
[06:25] <VMT2007> :\
[06:25] <wason> that's right
[06:25] <Life> hi, for some reason my server just stops at "stopping postfix" while shutting down, how can i get past this so that i can finally shut down my server?
[06:25] <Shadow_mil> WHY DOES JAVA KEEP CRASHING!?!  http://shadowmil.is-a-geek.org/hs_err_pid31103.log
[06:25] <Music_Shuffle> !caps
[06:25] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[06:25] <Shadow_mil> sorry...
[06:25] <jrattner> QUESTION: Where can I find GDM themes for my login screen?
[06:26] <Music_Shuffle> ...
[06:26] <Music_Shuffle> !caps | jrattner
[06:26] <ubotu> jrattner: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[06:26] <Shadow_mil> been trying to solve this problem for like a week now
[06:26] <VMT2007> jrattner: http://gnome-look.org is good imo
[06:26] <voraistos> hehe
[06:26] <wason> thx everybody, bye...
[06:26] <wason> exit
[06:26] <vox754> Important: which irc client are you using? which do you recomend?
[06:26] <trinkolade> Life, does syslog say anything? You might try to put a kill -9 statement to the init-script
[06:26] <jrattner> thanks VMT2007
[06:26] <thoreauputic> !gnome-art | jrattner
[06:26] <ubotu> gnome-art: install GNOME themes from art.gnome.org. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2-3 (edgy), package size 26 kB, installed size 200 kB
[06:26] <Life> tinkolade: right now it's stuck at "stopping postfix", i just want to get past that so i can restart my server so i can reinstall the OS
[06:26] <vox754> !irc
[06:26] <Life> CTRL+Z, X, or C doesn't work
[06:26] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[06:27] <Acu> holycow: can you give me other laptop barebone site because the http://anitec.ca/product/6736/asus_z96js_intel_945pm_core_duo_barebone_notebook_*free_2nd_year_warranty_upgrade*/  is far more expensive than if you just buy the laptop full featured at hp or dell ?
[06:28] <holycow> Acu, no
[06:28] <holycow> heh
[06:28] <Music_Shuffle> laptops are pretty cheap these days.
[06:28] <holycow> Acu, all i can tell you is that what you are looking for.  you need to search for the rest
[06:28] <trinkolade> Life, I don't know,  the power switch?
[06:28] <Music_Shuffle> Just buy one.
[06:29] <holycow> actually DON'T do what Music_Shuffle just told you
[06:29] <holycow> that is the single worst piece of advice EVER
[06:29] <Music_Shuffle> Why not?
[06:29] <trinkolade> Life, does it hang like in a loop or does it hang like BSoD?
[06:29] <holycow> laptops are finicky devices that you need to research before buying if you intend on using linux on them
[06:29] <holycow> you REALLY need to know what you are getting
[06:29] <Life> trinolade: let me show you a screenshot
[06:29] <Music_Shuffle> They're cheap, he has no idea what he's doing, sounds like a good mix if he reads some reviews or something.
[06:29] <voraistos> this anitec stuff is prtty expensive for just a keyboard, a monitor and a mboard ....
[06:29] <holycow> or you will spend forever trying to figure out buggy software
[06:29] <trinkolade> okay, Life
[06:29] <holycow> Music_Shuffle, wrong
[06:30] <Music_Shuffle> Why not?
[06:30] <holycow> Music_Shuffle, that is okay advice for windows users, drivers exist for their os
[06:30] <Music_Shuffle> If he can't read a review or two to figure out if it works for Linu
[06:30] <Music_Shuffle> Linux*
[06:30] <holycow> for linux users you are telling them to basically take their money and burn it
[06:30] <Music_Shuffle> He's got bigger issues.
[06:30] <holycow> no just stop
[06:30] <thoreauputic> !hardware
[06:30] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[06:30] <holycow> what thoreauputic said, thats a good start
[06:31] <kylevan> speaking of laptops...
[06:31] <voraistos> At those prices its best to buy a mac !
[06:31] <PeanutHorst> lol
[06:31] <PeanutHorst> :p
[06:31] <holycow> depends on how you look at it
[06:31] <kylevan> anyone know why "debian/rules updateconfigs" fails when trying to apply the PHC patch for undervolting my Sonoma Pentium M?
[06:31] <holycow> i wouldn't take a mac if you gave it to me for free
[06:31] <PeanutHorst> 5 pc, 3 pc64, 2 mac :)
[06:31] <Music_Shuffle> Your opinion depends how you look at it too.
[06:31] <Music_Shuffle> ..
[06:31] <holycow> mac hardware is horrible restricted
[06:31] <thoreauputic> you can run Ubuntu PPC on an iBook G4 ( I do ) :)
[06:31] <holycow> but that only applies tomy use case
[06:31] <PeanutHorst> holycow: i would
[06:32] <Acu> I just went to linuxcertified - they are a joke - with 1300 bucks they sell you a laptop and it seem they are thiefs...
[06:32] <Life> http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/3471/hangqe7.jpg
[06:32] <voraistos> holycow: me neither :P
[06:32] <holycow> Acu, then you really are in the wrong place unfortunately
[06:32] <holycow> Acu, you should just stick with windows
[06:32] <thoreauputic> holycow: nice advocacy there ;-)
[06:32] <z9999> kitche Earlier you mentioned that firefox 2 was available in dapper-backports, and we have all repositories enabled, but see no listing for firefox 2. After reading the help site instructions, we would prefer to not go through all those steps, and find additional complications there, so is there an easier method of upgrading to firefox 2? Or better yet, will it be made available on the...
[06:32] <z9999> ...package manager any time soon?
[06:33] <voraistos> holycow: no actually, i would accept it, sell it to a poor guy, and buy 2 pc's for the same price lol
[06:33] <kylevan> anyone have any idea on troubleshooting a kernel patch that won't work?
[06:33] <holycow> voraistos, heh
[06:33] <voraistos> z9999 : just go to the mozilla website .....
[06:34] <trinkolade> Life, doesn't look good. Can you still access the server over ssh or something like this? Try to kill it somehow
[06:35] <trinkolade> Life, I don't have a clue what you could do
[06:35] <holycow> thoreauputic, heh, he is comparing wrong hardware specs with wrong models and comming to the wrong conclusions.  indeed,  advocacy fails in that area.
[06:35] <Acu> the irony is that 99 percent of people in this chat have paid microsoft their dues - and they are going to do it in foreseeable future -
[06:35] <holycow> Acu, actually thats wrong
[06:35] <thoreauputic> holycow: ;-)
[06:35] <holycow> most people in this channel have never paid ms a dime
[06:35] <holycow> trust me on this
[06:35] <Music_Shuffle> He has a point if you've ever bought an OEM PC.
[06:35] <lupine_85> most of the people in this channel will have used teh illegal MS :p
[06:35] <z9999> voraistos: Thanks, but that is where we are coming from. It appears that the firefox in ubuntu is made special for ubuntu so it's not just a simple procedure of replacing the existing version.
[06:35] <holycow> correcto
[06:35] <Music_Shuffle> Or used one really.
[06:35] <Acu> holycow: 100 percent pay their dues  to Microsoft ?
[06:35] <thoreauputic> Acu: build your own, buy a white box PC without OS
[06:36] <thoreauputic> or whatever...
[06:36] <Music_Shuffle> thoreauputic, he wanted a laptop.
[06:36] <holycow> no
[06:36] <holycow> he wanted help on desktop and laptop
[06:36] <thoreauputic> Music_Shuffle: then he should google for linusx laptops, and hardware compatibility
[06:36] <Music_Shuffle> Which is like.../google 'laptop linux' and read everything you can find.
[06:36] <Life> trinkolade: no
[06:36] <thoreauputic> Music_Shuffle: I already gave a link
[06:37] <lupine_85> how about http://www.linuxemporium.co.uk/ ?
[06:37] <lupine_85> 600 and such
[06:37] <voraistos> z9999: yeah but the original firefox just works as well .... They explain on the wiki how to do it ...
[06:37] <Music_Shuffle> I know, I didn't say otherwise. If you just go buy a PC without reading about it, you're only hurting yourself. :/
[06:37] <thoreauputic> here's another  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTesting
[06:37] <FilipeOliveira> hi, i replaced an ide hard drive with an sata, after making a ghost copyof all partitions (swap, ext3 (ubunutu system, ntfs(other os)). after this i rebooted, grub loaded fine, pointed and booted the other os perfectly, however did not boot ubuntu, it stopped after "starting..." is it possible that with the upgrade grub is looking for ubuntu in another location? if so will booting with a live cd, running fdisk to see where my partitions are, editing
[06:37] <FilipeOliveira> mtab and fstab if they are different suffice to get it booting again?? thanks
[06:38] <Acu> Music_Shuffle: google is common sense but the reality is sad - all what I found is that linux laptops are 30$ more expensive than Microsoft Laptops, which is a paradox
[06:38] <Music_Shuffle> Err, you mean 30%*?
[06:38] <thoreauputic> Acu: check  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTesting
[06:38] <z9999> voraistos: Ok, thanks and I guess we will just stay with the 1.5.0.8 version for now.
[06:39] <thoreauputic> Acu: and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam
[06:39] <holycow> Acu, its not a paradox, you just don't know how to compare laptops properly
[06:39] <voraistos> z9999: you can also visit this page http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/web/
[06:39] <holycow> your comparing one brannd against another but not checking the specs of the motherboard
[06:39] <trinkolade> Life, it seems like it really got stuck
[06:39] <holycow> and i know why your not doing it
[06:39] <Ninja_Dylock> is there a way to save the position of programs when i login?
[06:40] <holycow> because manufacturers don't actually give you enough info to do it
[06:40] <voraistos> z9999 They are the packages for edgy, but they should work on dapper with a little bit of help
[06:40] <Life> trinkolade: anything i can do to get it moving?
[06:40] <holycow> your talking some nonsense about dell yet dell doesn't give you any usefull information on systems to do a proper eval and comparison
[06:40] <lupine_85> it seems that, all else being equal, a linux laptop is 59.95 cheaper than a Window laptop
[06:40] <thoreauputic> I believe Thinkpads are favoured by many as Linux laptops
[06:41] <holycow> what you haveto do is take a brand barebone system and then add the price of windows to it
[06:41] <holycow> thats your comparison
[06:41] <Music_Shuffle> lupine_85, link? I didn't see any I liked. :/
[06:41] <lupine_85> erm, 58.75 rather :p
[06:41] <voraistos> z9999: of course you can dl them from there :)
[06:41] <lupine_85> http://www.linuxemporium.co.uk/products/laptops/#pid81963
[06:41] <Music_Shuffle> thoreauputic, and most sites seem to support that view too.
[06:41] <PeanutHorst> ibm thinkpads?
[06:41] <lupine_85> all else being equal... :p
[06:41] <PeanutHorst> gimme
[06:41] <PeanutHorst> also, toshiba satellites aren't bad for running linux
[06:42] <Music_Shuffle> lupine_85, lol! Nice catch xD
[06:42] <trinkolade> Life, no, I don't think so. Is it a remote server or do you have access to the power switch somehow?
[06:42] <holycow> actually all those answers are wrong
[06:42] <holycow> the brand name is irrelevant
[06:42] <z9999> voraistos: We're using dapper, and not linux literate, so are trying to keep things as simple as possible. Plus we are located in an area where human support is not available and cannot take any chance of making the system inoperable.
[06:42] <lupine_85> acer can be a bit hit 'n miss but the one I have is ++
[06:42] <holycow> all that is relevant for linux compatability on laptops are the chipsets
[06:42] <holycow> you don't buy for the name brand
[06:42] <holycow> you buy for the chipset
[06:42] <holycow> and for linux generally the idea is to only buy models with ALL intel chipsets
[06:42] <holycow> its theonly way to guarantee compatability
[06:43] <Music_Shuffle> Why does that make our answers 'wrong'?
[06:43] <Acu> holycow: I do not think you need to be a genius to compare to laptops - there are only 14 or so features which determine the performance (and price) - I was talking of similar features - do not get me wrong - I use a Pentium 4 laptop and a pentium 4 desktop runing Debian and two powerpc runing ubuntu - but for all of those I have paid the microsoft and mcintosh the OS - even I do not use it - I really want to buy a laptop and a desktop but real
[06:43] <Acu> ly all the linux offers are so out of wack with regard to price and features
[06:43] <Crell> Hey all.  I'm having an issue installing (K)Ubuntu 6.10.  Every time I try to boot the CD, it takes it upwards of 10 minutes to think about what it claims are hdc errors (hdc is the CDROM drive), and USB errors if various USB devices are plugged in, then finally boots to a completely garbled display.
[06:43] <Music_Shuffle> DIfferent != wrong.
[06:43] <Crell> It's functional because I get sound and common keyboard commands kinda work, but the display is just a frizz of colors.
[06:43] <VMT2007> oh my god
[06:43] <liberion> hey guys do they have a package for FretsOnFire yet?
[06:43] <holycow> its wrong because all manufactures follow one rule exclusively in manufacturing - its more important to get a product quantity out the door than make a good solid engineering decision and keep your model configs stable
[06:43] <VMT2007> randrproto, renderproto, fontsproto
[06:43] <lupine_85> of course, you could by $any_pc and request a refund from microsft as per their EULA
[06:43] <VMT2007> what is that stuff
[06:44] <lupine_85> (if you don't agree, request a refund, etc...)
[06:44] <lupine_85> not many people have luck with that, though
[06:44] <holycow> those of us that have bought dell in the past know that you can buy dells any time and they will randomly stuff weird ass components and mobos depeding on availability
[06:44] <holycow> if dell doesn't have a component they will just go out and buy whatever is available
[06:44] <Crell> I've tried changing the default video setting, but it's always the same.  The video card is an nvidia 6600 GT.  Any ideas?
[06:44] <holycow> the same is true of all manufacturers actually
[06:44] <thoreauputic> !nvidia
[06:44] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:44] <holycow> thus you don't buy for the brand, thats wrong because you are really doing nothing more than throwing dice
[06:45] <Music_Shuffle> But we're just telling him that some manufacturers have a far higher rate of success with Linux, like the Thinkpad series. A simple google search would solve his entire question, and give him SO much more than we can tell him in material.
[06:45] <holycow> you want to buy laptops first for the chipset, then work your way out to the rest of the features
[06:45] <holycow> yes an dyou are wrong
[06:45] <Crell> I can't install drivers if the OS won't even boot in the first place, even in VGA mode.
[06:45] <holycow> infact thats what i used to think too
[06:45] <thoreauputic> OK I think the laptop debate has gone about long enough :) Feel free to argue in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[06:45] <holycow> it really turns out to be bad advice, thats all i'm suggesting
[06:46] <Music_Shuffle> If he just goes by what we say and doesn't read up at all, then its OUR fault? The entire OS is based around not just taking stuff for granted and reading up on it. Not that hard.
[06:46] <Music_Shuffle> thoreauputic, k. ./End. ;p
[06:46] <voraistos> Crell: what is your hardware ? chipset, graphics card ...
[06:46] <holycow> thank you captain obvious.  ./end
[06:46] <thoreauputic> just take it to -offtopic - it's legitimate but it's getting to be too much I think
[06:46] <Music_Shuffle> Cute. A flame to end it. Whatever.
[06:46] <VMT2007> nvidia's drivers are easy to install
[06:46] <Leemur> the last two computers I've purchased both run linux and I didn't pay the ms tax on either
[06:47] <Crell> voraistos: AMD Athlon CPU, VIA chipset I believe, nvidia 6600GT video card, 512 MB RAM.
[06:47] <VMT2007> the via driver that comes with ubuntu is bad
[06:47] <VMT2007> oh, just _AWESOME_.
[06:47] <Leemur> I'm exited to see what happens when the chinese start knocking out scads of olpc clones
[06:47] <VMT2007> compile errors on this stupid openchrome crap
[06:48] <Crell> You're kidding.  VIA's like, the #1 chipset out there.
[06:48] <VMT2007> Crell: Well, I'm not laughing.
[06:48] <voraistos> Crell: it certainly is the chipset.... i am afraid i cant help you on that ...
[06:48] <Crell> Nor I.
[06:48] <VMT2007> I'm stuck using that generic vesa driver
[06:48] <holycow> VMT2007, yeah i'm tired of via too
[06:48] <VMT2007> VERY slow rendering
[06:49] <SeraVitae> where's sources.list kept?
[06:49] <VMT2007> OpenChrome doesn't compile
[06:49] <Crell> Not via video, just via BIOS/CMOS/etc.
[06:49] <SeraVitae> oop nevermind
[06:49] <voraistos> Crell: Thing is the ubuntu kernel is pretty much a lot hacked.
[06:49] <VMT2007> and the best anyone does is throw manual pages, brb.
[06:49] <kkerwin> Hi. Does anyone know offhand where I might find an Enemy Territory .deb package? Google isn't being too helpful.
[06:49] <voraistos> Crell: If you try with debian and doesnt get any hdd error or usb problems, then all ou have to do certainly is to get a clean kernel (vanilla)
[06:50] <Crell> 6.06 actually does boot, if I use safe graphics mode.  6.10 won't, however.
[06:50] <voraistos> kkerwin: there is non
[06:50] <Crell> I'm replacing a 4 year-running Ubuntu system.
[06:50] <kkerwin> voraistos: Thanks.
[06:50] <VMT2007> http://pastebin.com/843012
[06:50] <VMT2007> openchrome compile
[06:50] <voraistos> Crell: Would it be by anychance a VIAKT400 ?
[06:51] <zspada15> VMT2007, try running as a normal user
[06:51] <VMT2007> some difference, but okay
[06:51] <Crell> voraistos: Um, not sure.  I'm looking through my BIOS screen to try and find where it says what the chipset is.
[06:51] <Music_Shuffle> No 'Information'-type tab?
[06:52] <SysRq-B> anyone here got a i810+nvidia+beryl dual head setup?  I'm having a problem with nvidia killing i810 glx driver... can't get both at the same time :(
[06:52] <voraistos> certainly in the title Crell
[06:52] <Acu> holycow, VMT2007 and MusicShuffle - thanks for your input - but we should ask ourselves from 823 people in this chat how many we have paid microsoft ? And maybe multiple times. --- We have to end here this discussion but I really think it stinks that we cannot buy easy computers with Linux or without OS...
[06:52] <Crell> No, it's an older Award BIOS.
[06:52] <Crell> Hm, now I have to reboot and watch quickly. :-)
[06:52] <thoreauputic> Acu: you can continue in #ubuntu-offtopic if you wish
[06:53] <Leemur> people can create demand for open source oem systems
[06:53] <Music_Shuffle> Definitely.
[06:53] <bharath> When I try to ssh to a remote machine, it takes about 15 secs to connect. I took a trace and saw that reverse DNS for the IP was taking that much time. I then killed avahi daemon and things are fine now. Is there a permanent way to solve this problem ??
[06:53] <Crell> voraistos: Yep, VIAKT400.
[06:53] <VMT2007> zspada15: same error
[06:53] <Music_Shuffle> Seems to have a buncha issues. =/
[06:53] <zspada15> VMT2007, hmm
[06:53] <Crell> Well, KT400, it doesn't actually say VIA on it, but it's a VIA.
[06:53] <SysRq-B> demand was created for me... 2 years ago, XP died and no free support or downloadable CDs to reinstall (still had my key too, haha) ;)
[06:53] <voraistos> Crell: thank you for this precious information, i am just thinking mine might still be working.
[06:53] <Music_Shuffle> Crell, and you can't...boot?
[06:54] <voraistos> Crell What is the motherboard brand ?
[06:54] <Music_Shuffle> SysRq-B, my key just didn't work one reformat. :/
[06:54] <Crell> Music_Shuffle: Booting 6.10 always gives me garbled video, no matter what video mode I select.  It also takes upwards of 10 min to give errors from hdc that actually begin "huh? Expected NULL".
[06:54] <SysRq-B> Music_Shuffle: that's all it takes.  I have ME laying around on CD somewhere
[06:55] <Gumby> does anyone here use kontact/kmail in an up to date edgy?  it refuses to send email.
[06:55] <Crell> 6.06 works if I use safe video mode, but 6.10 not at all.
[06:55] <Music_Shuffle> And I'm far the better for it. ;P
[06:55] <Acu> thoreauputic: thanks next time I will reinintiate this very pragmatic issue - maybe I should start a forum or website about it - we need badly OSless or Linux systems.... good bye all
[06:55] <SysRq-B> Amen! hehe
[06:55] <VMT2007> i'm really close to throwing that laptop out the window
[06:55] <SysRq-B> Just switching from Suse to Ubuntu yesterday... but can't get dual heads to work properly (glx)
[06:55] <Music_Shuffle> Crell, oh ok. ./Figured out what your issue actually is. xD
[06:55] <zspada15> Acu, whats the problem?
[06:55] <VMT2007> VIA does not publish decent linux drivers
[06:55] <Crell> Music_Shuffle: If you know, please share. :-)
[06:56] <SysRq-B> been on Suse for a while now... I like debian driver support better
[06:56] <Music_Shuffle> No no, I meant I figured out what your question was finally. XDDDD
[06:56] <thedro> hey all. does anyone have an archive of candell's installing ubuntu on ps3?
[06:56] <Crell> VMT2007: Yes, but the kernel team has had support in the kernel forever.  I've been running vanilla kernels for like 3 years.
[06:56] <VMT2007> and I hope to GOD that openchrome supports it
[06:56] <voraistos> Hey the last OS i bought was DOS
[06:56] <VMT2007> I buy Windows
[06:56] <VMT2007> for people who simply aren't proficient enough to use Linux
[06:56] <SysRq-B> Last OS I actually "bought" was Caldera Linux
[06:56] <zspada15> voraistos, wow
[06:57] <VMT2007> Commercial Linuxes suck, IMO.
[06:57] <SysRq-B> Dos was better at that point, quite frankly, heh
[06:57] <elysium444> How can i go in init3 and shut the xserver to install nvidia driver?
[06:57] <thedro> anyone know the ip addy for louiscandell.com?
[06:57] <Crell> elysium444: telinit 3
[06:57] <VMT2007> elysium444: what do you mean?
[06:57] <Music_Shuffle> elysium444, drivers for what as the ultimate goal? Beryl on Edgy? Or just installing them?
[06:57] <voraistos> Hey can you guys imagine all those poor Apple users? Having to pay each update ....
[06:57] <SysRq-B> elysium444: just ctrl-alt-f1
[06:57] <VMT2007> you only need to restart X
[06:58] <VMT2007> ctrl+alt+backspace
[06:58] <SysRq-B> type "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[06:58] <elysium444> how can I shut the xserver to install nvidia couse it doesnt install without shutting the x server
[06:58] <Music_Shuffle> Yeah.
[06:58] <elysium444> thanks
[06:58] <PeanutHorst> yo y'all
[06:58] <SysRq-B> For Nvidia install, you have to be outside X11 for a few minutes
[06:58] <PeanutHorst> i'm pushing ubuntu
[06:58] <thedro> anyone install ubuntu on the ps3 yet?
[06:58] <VMT2007> I didn't
[06:58] <Music_Shuffle> .oY
[06:58] <SysRq-B> or...
[06:58] <Crell> So why would Edgy be the first Ubuntu that wouldn't boot?  I've booted all kinds of live CDs on this box before without incident.
[06:58] <SysRq-B> --no-x-check
[06:58] <VMT2007> I installed it while using gnome terminal
[06:58] <SysRq-B> do --no-x-check
[06:58] <VMT2007> without that flag
[06:58] <elysium444> I know thank I have to do "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[06:58] <PeanutHorst> my system has a AMD K6-2/366 and 96MB RAM
[06:59] <PeanutHorst> everything else passes muster
[06:59] <voraistos> Crell: i am pretty sure it is kernel related. just try by anymean to run  vanilla kernel, and if it works, then you know where the problem is
[06:59] <Music_Shuffle> Crell, your gfx doesn't like it perhaps? =/
[06:59] <PeanutHorst> is there anything i should be aware of?
[06:59] <SysRq-B> elysium444: you can test after that with "startx" but it won't do a login manager
[06:59] <thoreauputic> Crell: telinit 3 won't do anything on Ubuntu or Debian - default runlevel is 2
[06:59] <thedro> no one here has a ps3?
[06:59] <zspada15> good thing im getting an intel chipset
[06:59] <Music_Shuffle> Crell, when does it hang?
[06:59] <PeanutHorst> this is a toshiba satellite 2060CDS by the way
[06:59] <matsyes> hi i have a question regarding the alias command
[06:59] <voraistos> uh? that was released ?
[06:59] <Crell> Music_Shuffle, voraistos: Until Tuesday this box was running Debian Sid with a vanilla kernel and the nvidia binary driver and was working just fine.  No problems at all like this.
[06:59] <gizim> Anybody know how to get fortune to run in the motd?
[07:00] <SysRq-B> I've played with the --no-x-check on nvidia driver install, no problems with it... saves a bit of time
[07:00] <gizim> !X
[07:00] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:00] <voraistos> Crell: I told you its the kernel for sure. The ubuntu kernel is much more hacked than the debian one
[07:00] <SysRq-B> then again, I'm on a Live CD right now, trying to figure out how to fix a problem with it, heh
[07:01] <voraistos> Crell i honestly dont think its graphics card related.
[07:01] <matsyes> i wanted to replace the option say "emacs filename &" with say "em filename" does anyone know how to do that
[07:01] <PeanutHorst> um
[07:01] <Crell> Great.  So what do I do about it?  I don't really know how to install an alternate kernel on a live CD. :-)
[07:01] <PeanutHorst> ln -s /usr/bin/emacs /usr/bin/em
[07:01] <Music_Shuffle> SO yo ucan't even boot into the LiveCD?
[07:01] <PeanutHorst> maybe
[07:02] <SysRq-B> or you can create an alias
[07:02] <matsyes> yeah thats what i did an alias
[07:02] <Crell> Music_Shuffle: The CD boots as far as the menu that offers to boot from CD, boot safe video mode, check memory, etc.
[07:02] <Music_Shuffle> Ok, and then it?
[07:02] <Music_Shuffle> it...?*
[07:02] <Crell> From there it takes a while and whines about hdc (CDROM drive), then boots to garbled video.
[07:02] <matsyes> but how do i include the option of &
[07:02] <voraistos> Crell well if you can access the CLI, you just have to do it the debian way... dowload the source and compile :P
[07:02] <PeanutHorst> is there a way to boot ubuntu to a command line instead of to an X session
[07:02] <PeanutHorst>  ?
[07:02] <lnc> ln -s /usr/bin/emacs /usr/local/bin/em
[07:02] <Music_Shuffle> PeanutHorst, yeah, turn off x at the runlevel levelthing.
[07:03] <Crell> Is there a command line install for Ubuntu these days?
[07:03] <SysRq-B> chkconfig
[07:03] <Music_Shuffle> The server install is without GUI I thought.
[07:03] <thoreauputic> Crell: use the alternate CD
[07:03] <SysRq-B> if it's anything like RHEL
[07:03] <Music_Shuffle> Or that.
[07:03] <voraistos> Crell: I was thinking..... You seem to be experienced but Did you think about checksumming the CD ?
[07:03] <Crell> matsyes: alias em='emacs &'
[07:03] <PeanutHorst> Music_Shuffle: no
[07:03] <PeanutHorst> i mean on the livecd
[07:03] <confuciusMD> how do I type chinese characters in oowriter?  SCIM works for all the other programs except for that.
[07:03] <Music_Shuffle> Oh. ./Just kidding.
[07:04] <SysRq-B> there's probably a startup string for that... never done it, though
[07:04] <Music_Shuffle> ./Tired and noticing that the problems here are beyond my ability to use logic to solve.
[07:04] <SysRq-B> F6
[07:04] <jbutler> hey all.. this is a really stupid question from a newbie, and ive looked all over google, but most of the tutorials concentrate on make.  Im trying to install  a program and that programs install docs say to use "./configure" then "make", but when i try "./configure" i get a command not found error.  I know im misssing something really simple here....
[07:04] <Life> anyone here can be trusted to reinstall an OS for me while i sleep o_O
[07:04] <Life> i'll pay for services
[07:04] <Crell> voraistos: I haven't, no.  I've tried burning it twice, though, with the same result, so the burn is clean.  Checking the ISO's not a bad idea before futzing with the kernel, I suppose.
[07:04] <Music_Shuffle> G'night all. And...good luck with your issues. :)
[07:04] <Madpilot> jbutler, which program?
[07:04] <PeanutHorst> lii would offer my services
[07:04] <PeanutHorst> life ^
[07:04] <SysRq-B> jbutler: don't use quotes?
[07:04] <Life> peanuthorst: ehh how much :|
[07:05] <PeanutHorst> free
[07:05] <PeanutHorst> but ... how am i meant to do it remotely?
[07:05] <PeanutHorst> i'm in australia
[07:05] <voraistos> jbutler ./configure is a script, it has to exist to work... otherwise just use make and (make sure you have all the necessary libraries)
[07:05] <Life> peanuthorst: you'll have KVM over IP access..
[07:05] <PeanutHorst> Life: can't do with ssh?
[07:05] <Life> no
[07:05] <Crell> !md5
[07:05] <ubotu> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[07:06] <thoreauputic> Life: giving people root access to your box from an IRC channel is not wise :)
[07:06] <voraistos> Crell yeah the problem could be not from the burning process but the download process....
[07:06] <VMT2007> http://pastebin.com/843012
[07:06] <SysRq-B> brb... in case anybody is wondering, I'm here for i810+nvidia simultanious glx not working (only separately) help... pm me if you have solved this problem... I need a smoke.
[07:06] <Life> toreauptic: yes i know
[07:06] <PeanutHorst> Life: so you're saying.. my keyboard video and mouse are eclusively taken over by this remote conection?
[07:06] <thoreauputic> Life: so don't do it :)
[07:06] <PeanutHorst> i'm not sure i can dig that...
[07:06] <Crell> Well that's a useless link.  It gives md5sums for 5.10. :-)
[07:07] <Life> meh, i know but i feel asif i'd waste $50 if ic ant finish thia
[07:07] <voraistos> Crell. The CD has an auto checksum option when you boot
[07:07] <PeanutHorst> thoreauputic: well, i'd expect he'd passwd after anyway
[07:07] <justin_> How do I make sure drivers load on every boot automatically? - (sound drivers)
[07:07] <thoreauputic> PeanutHorst: right, after you installed your rootkit ;D
[07:07] <VMT2007> !modprobe | justin_
[07:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about modprobe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:07] <Crell> Yeah, I'm trying to run that now.  Unfortunately it's taking its 10 minutes of whining about Buffer I/O errors on hdc and ide_intr errors on hdc.
[07:08] <Crell> Which I suppose could be a hint about the image itself...
[07:08] <PeanutHorst> thoreauputic:  i am not capanble of making rootkit stuff
[07:08] <VMT2007> !bum | justin_
[07:08] <ubotu> justin_: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[07:08] <jbutler> madpilot: im trying to install the hydrogen drum machine using make.  could the ./configure be located somewhere other than the .tar.gz i downloaded?
[07:08] <justin_> VMT2007, Already did that - simply keeps it loaded until I reboot my machine - and then I have to re-probe it again.
[07:08] <Madpilot> !info hydrogen
[07:08] <ubotu> hydrogen: Simple drum machine/step sequencer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.3-2 (edgy), package size 3267 kB, installed size 9192 kB
[07:08] <matsyes> i tierd the ln command but that requires a seperate link which i cant do
[07:08] <thoreauputic> PeanutHorst: I nelieve you - but why should he ? :)
[07:08] <Madpilot> jbutler, why not just grab hydrogen from universe?
[07:08] <thoreauputic> *believe
[07:09] <VMT2007> OpenChrome isn't compiling
[07:09] <matsyes> the alias opens a new emacs but doesnt open the file i want
[07:09] <PeanutHorst> thoreauputic: agreed
[07:09] <Crell> Of course, my burning software is on the system I'm trying to replace, so... :-)
[07:09] <voraistos> CRell... Wel no, since the CD actually uses the linux kernel to checkhimself... If you have debian installed, just use it to checksum the CD. themd5 files are on the DL mirrors
[07:09] <VMT2007> 12 degrees centigrade here
[07:09] <VMT2007> damn
[07:09] <Crell> voraistos: I'm on the kubuntu download page.  It's just providing links to ISOs.
[07:10] <FluxTendu> i try to read some wmv on my edgy 64: when i try to use mplayer32: "mplayer32: error while loading shared libraries: libaudio.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[07:10] <voraistos> Crell i dont get it they always provide the md5
[07:10] <Crell> I've a copy of the ISO on my server, and I can md5sum it there.  I just need to know what it should be.
[07:10] <Crell> If you know where to find them I would be most greatful. :-)
[07:10] <voraistos> Crel ill find it
[07:10] <justin_> And does anyone know how to fix this.. in programs like Firefox and Amsn -- instead of having the modern "click hand" -- I have that old left pointing small hand that real ugly one Linux had by default on it years ago
[07:11] <exs> can anyone recommend me a *very* good wifi card for my desktop?..  I want it to run nativley in linux and be able to hack so I can test my security.
[07:11] <idlemind> what md5 sum are you looking for
[07:11] <justin_> But in the system itself, and Opera its the normal modern click hand..
[07:11] <Crell> Kubuntu 6.10 32-bit X86
[07:11] <GMT-1_AZ> where can i get opera ?
[07:11] <jbroome> !opera
[07:11] <VMT2007> exs: get a bridge instead
[07:11] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[07:12] <idlemind> k k give me a min
[07:12] <Crell> exs: I've had pretty good luck with Aetheros chipset cards.
[07:12] <exs> VMT2007:  what's a bridge?
[07:12] <VMT2007> an ethernet-wifi bridge
[07:12] <voraistos> Crell http://ftp.oleane.net/pub/ubuntu-cd/kubuntu/6.10/MD5SUMS
[07:12] <VMT2007> a desktop is stationary
[07:12] <exs> VMT2007:  never heard of it, ill look it up
[07:12] <Crell> I've two of them, one from SMC and one fom D-Link.  Same card, but the SMC is half the price. :-)
[07:12] <justin_> CreativeEmbassy, Kubuntu too? -- I feel your pain ;D
[07:12] <VMT2007> you're not going to exactly wardrive with one
[07:12] <VMT2007> or use more than one network
[07:12] <justin_> =P
[07:12] <Crell> voraistos: Thanks!
[07:12] <voraistos> Crell 1f9baed847eff89b03c754fcaea8070e
[07:13] <Crell> Thanks.  That matches what I've got here.
[07:13] <idlemind> crell: http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/edgy
[07:13] <idlemind> crell: you'll find a md5sums file there
[07:13] <jbutler> madpilot: doesnt support i386 architecture it says and wont install.  I wanted to play around with it since there isnt anything to that effect on the hydrogen page.
[07:13] <voraistos> Crell, im leaving, ill be back in 10 minutes.
[07:13] <VMT2007> exs: and many wifi card manufacturers do not release native linux drivers
[07:13] <VMT2007> because they're lazy.
[07:13] <Madpilot> jbutler, the packaged hydrogen won't install?
[07:14] <Crell> Thanks, voraistos.
[07:14] <matsyes>  i wanted to replace the option say "emacs filename &" with say "em filename" i have tried the alias command but it didnt work any suggestions please
[07:14] <thoreauputic> CYber_Afk: ?
[07:14] <jbutler> madpilot: im sorry for my ignorance, what do you mean by "packaged hydrogen" ? is that what i downloaded?
[07:14] <jordo23> what do I do if I cannot uninstall a package (kdepim) with error code 100
[07:14] <CYber_Afk> just saying hi thoreauputic
[07:14] <Crell> matsyes: Try making a small bash script?
[07:14] <Madpilot> jbutler, enable the Universe repo, install hydrogen from there - use Synaptic
[07:14] <thoreauputic> CYber_Afk: oh OK :)
[07:14] <TraceGreen> Hello, my harddisk has a host protected area, I want to access it in linux , how can i do it?
[07:15] <jbutler> madpilot: ok, ill try synaptic, it was Add / Remove that was giving me the i386 not supported error.  I think i enabled universal to get my mp3 to play.
[07:15] <VMT2007> ugh, this compile error has me puzzled
[07:15] <VMT2007> i'm going to go out for a smoke.
[07:15] <SysRq-B> back... yeah, pretty happy about my new Ubuntu install.  webcam actually works now, and I can do dual heads (which sax2 never did).  I just wish I didn't have to use a closed source NVidia driver :/
[07:15] <matsyes> crell: yeah but what exactly do i put in the script the problem is that the &option comes after the filename
[07:15] <thoreauputic> CYber_Afk: just saying hi :)
[07:15] <thoreauputic> heheh
[07:16] <Crell> matsyes: #!/bin/bash \n emacs $1 &
[07:16] <SysRq-B> actually surprised beryl now works on my integrated card.  The things 4 years old, heh
[07:16] <Crell> Where the \n should be an actual line break in the file, not a literal.
[07:16] <CYber_Afk> thoreauputic,
[07:16] <CYber_Afk> AirPlusXtremeG Adapters - 108Mbps
[07:16] <CYber_Afk> DWL-G650 Dlink Wireless PCMCIA Adapter - Operates in Windows & Linux
[07:16] <CYber_Afk> gf's X-mas present
[07:16] <Crell> Name it "em" and put it in your ~/bin directory, then make sure ~/bin is in your path.
[07:16] <elysium444> I did "/etc/init.d/gdm stop" as root and install nvidia drivers after rebootin the x starts and tells "failed to initialize HAL!". How can I fix this?
[07:16] <jordo23> what do I do if I cannot uninstall a package (kdepim) with error code 100?  Anyone?
[07:16] <CYber_Afk> along with some other stuff
[07:16] <CYber_Afk> :P
[07:16] <matsyes> crell: just a min let me try that
[07:17] <thoreauputic> CYber_Afk: sounds nice, but dows it run Linux?
[07:17] <thoreauputic> *does
[07:17] <CYber_Afk> it?
[07:17] <thoreauputic> ;P
[07:17] <SysRq-B> lol
[07:17] <CYber_Afk> it says operates in both, and my gf aint an IT ;/
[07:17] <Crell> jordo23: Have you tried from the command line?
[07:17] <elysium444>  I did "/etc/init.d/gdm stop" as root and install nvidia drivers after rebootin the x starts and tells "failed to initialize HAL!". what is HAL?How can I fix this?
[07:18] <SysRq-B> hmmm, that's a new one for me
[07:18] <Crell> HAL is the Hardware Abstraction Layer, and it's a bit of black magic I do not understand. :-)
[07:18] <jordo23> Crell: It says it wont remove because of unmet dependencies...
[07:18] <Crell> Does it say which?
[07:18] <SysRq-B> looking...
[07:18] <thoreauputic> CYber_Afk: ah I missed a line there, sorry :)
[07:18] <liberion> hey people!do they have a package of FretsOnFire for ubuntu yet?
[07:19] <elysium444> I also did type init 3, does this help?
[07:19] <CYber_Afk> lol thoreauputic its for my girls lappy so yea :P nice present, she gonna love it :)
[07:19] <thoreauputic> elysium444: bo
[07:19] <liberion> i can build a script that will install frets on fire ,and itll work fine!!
[07:19] <thoreauputic> elysium444: that changes runlevel, but 3 is the same as 2 in Ubuntu
[07:20] <SysRq-B> elysium444: Try the help here - http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75328.html
[07:20] <elysium444> I went to 3 because the nvidia installer told me
[07:20] <Sharn> Hello
[07:20] <SysRq-B> oh, you're still in init 3?
[07:20] <elysium444> ok thanks
[07:20] <SysRq-B> reboot :)
[07:20] <thoreauputic> elysium444: that's for Red Hat type distros
[07:20] <lupine_85> SysRq-B: why?
[07:21] <lupine_85> runlevel 2 == runlevel 3 == runlevel 5
[07:21] <elysium444> I got it, I have an external hd
[07:21] <Crell> Honestly, few people use runlevels anymore in the first place.
[07:21] <SysRq-B> ah
[07:21] <elysium444> thats the problem I thinki
[07:21] <thoreauputic> SysRq-B: in Debian and Ubuntu 2 is both X and networked non-X
[07:21] <lupine_85> sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop to get out of GUI
[07:21] <elysium444> i will shut it down while booting...
[07:22] <SysRq-B> I find there are only two things you need to fix most problems... access to the power cord, and a hammer
[07:22] <Crell> For certain definitions of "fix".
[07:22] <RMorris84> im having trouble with a usb hard drive... its not allowing me to remove anything from it...
[07:22] <SysRq-B> better in that order as well
[07:23] <Cyber_Stalker> SysRq-B, pref a big one
[07:23] <thoreauputic> SysRq-B: you forgot the hair dye to fix the resulting grey hairs :)
[07:23] <SysRq-B> aye
[07:23] <SysRq-B> hammers fix gray hairs
[07:23] <SysRq-B> at least, it scares those with them away
[07:23] <jbutler> madpilot: its working!  thanks so much.  Bum bah bum bah dah DAH! This is so cool i cant believe its free.
[07:24] <thoreauputic> SysRq-B: if you want to be a redhead :p
[07:24] <SysRq-B> heh
[07:24] <Crell> Is it worth pulling an alternate CD, or would I just run into the same issue later?
[07:25] <Madpilot> jbutler, no problem, have fun. Just remember to look stuff up in synaptic before messing with the source downloads - there's something like 16,000 packages in the universe repo...
[07:25] <kintaro0e> hey guys..what package/software that i need to install if want a sound mixer like pcdj...i want to play 2 instance of sounds and can control the volume of both sounds..any idea guys?ehehe..thanks
[07:25] <SysRq-B> kintaro0e: look for a graphical JACK mixer
[07:25] <SysRq-B> forgot the name
[07:25] <CiscoJones> kintaro0e try jokosher
[07:25] <RMorris84> A music messaging session has been requested. Please click the MM icon to accept.
[07:25] <CiscoJones> www.jokosher.org
[07:26] <RMorris84> im having trouble... this usb hd i added is saying its a read only filesystem
[07:26] <Satan-Claus> oh oh oh
[07:26] <SysRq-B> oh, you mean mixer, not mixer :P
[07:26] <thoreauputic> CiscoJones: interesting - I 've heard about it - how does jokosher compare with audacity ?
[07:26] <SysRq-B> I like audacity, but it crashes at the worst possible moments
[07:26] <Madpilot> RMorris84, what formatting is the HD using?
[07:26] <kintaro0e> ok SysRq-B CiscoJones
[07:26] <kintaro0e> thanks
[07:26] <Crell> RMorris84: Perhaps it is. :-)  What's the filesystem?
[07:26] <SysRq-B> the windows version, at least
[07:26] <RMorris84> ext2 i believe
[07:26] <jbutler> madpilot: cool.  any idea why it would tell me i couldnt install it b/c i didnt have i386 in "Add / Remove", but Synaptic did it no problem?
[07:26] <lupine_85> !info libwnck18 feisty
[07:26] <ubotu> libwnck18: Window Navigator Construction Kit - runtime files. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 118 kB, installed size 288 kB
[07:27] <lupine_85> !info libwnck18 edgy
[07:27] <CiscoJones> thoreauputic just installed it, and I like it so far, I have been using audigy up until now
[07:27] <ubotu> libwnck18: Window Navigator Construction Kit - runtime files. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 118 kB, installed size 288 kB
[07:27] <year0369> gibt es kein Ubuntu channel deutsch ?
[07:27] <Madpilot> jbutler, no idea; I generally use synaptic over add/remove, because there's a lot of stuff that doesn't appear in add/remove
[07:27] <thoreauputic> CiscoJones: hmm - /me checks
[07:27] <lupine_85> !de
[07:27] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:27] <SysRq-B> CiscoJones: you ever use anything like AcidPro and/or know a linux equivilant?
[07:27] <thoreauputic> !de
[07:27] <thoreauputic> oops
[07:27] <jw_606> Hello can
[07:27] <Crell> RMorris84: Check fstab to see how it's being mounted, and do an ls -l on the mount point.
[07:27] <CiscoJones> takes forever to compile/install, but it does it with little intervention at all
[07:27] <TraceGreen> Hello, Does Ubuntu kernel support "host protected area"?
[07:27] <jw_606> Can someone help me with an error I get while trying to compile a program please? The error is  "security.h:37:7: warning: no newline at end of file"
[07:28] <matsyes> crell : that worked ... but i am curious what is $1  ... btw i included my home directory path so i just saved the script in the home directory
[07:28] <SysRq-B> sounds like you either need to add or remove a blank line from the end of your file, either cr or cr+lf
[07:28] <DarthLappy> jw_606: That's a warning. Shouldn't affect the compilation.
[07:28] <Crell> The $1 means "first command line parameter to the script".  $2 is the second, etc.
[07:28] <RMorris84> Crell: bob@bob-laptop:/media/usbdisk$ ls -l total 20 drwx------  2 root root 16384 2006-12-21 23:03 lost+found drwxr-xr-x 19 bob  bob   4096 2006-12-21 23:25 Music
[07:28] <Crell> And AAAAHHHH!!!.  Never put your home directory itself in the path.
[07:28] <Cyber_Stalker> jw_606, you placed a blank line right at then end of the file
[07:29] <Crell> RMorris84: That's why.  It's owned by root, and only read/write by root.
[07:29] <Crell> What's the fstab line?
[07:29] <jw_606> Cyber_Stalker, theres roughly 50 files (ProQuake) that I'm trying to compile, and it has never successfully compiled for me, can you help?
[07:29] <RMorris84> how do i check that?
[07:29] <Crell> cat /etc/fstab
[07:29] <Cyber_Stalker> nope, i was just saying what the error looked like
[07:30] <matsyes> crell: aha cool (about the $1)... and i get the feeling the home directory idea was not good how come
[07:30] <Cyber_Stalker> sorry
[07:30] <DarthLappy> Cyber_Stalker: That's not right anyway, it's complaining because there *isn't* one :)
[07:30] <RMorris84> theres nothing in there about the device in the fstab
[07:30] <Crell> Security.  If a stray program ends up in there, then any time you log in, you get that program instead of the default one.
[07:30] <jw_606> I do get 2 other actual errors while compiling
[07:30] <bakks> can someone please help me install mysql over ssh, i am having trouble getting it working
[07:30] <Crell> Put a program called "cd" in your home directory itself, and you're in trouble. :-)
[07:30] <Cyber_Stalker> DarthLappy, is one isnt one, end of the day its still some thing to do with a line :P
[07:30] <Crell> Using /bin or similar is a common practice and safe.
[07:30] <Crell> er, safer.
[07:30] <SysRq-B> heh
[07:30] <DarthLappy> jw_606: Those might 'cause it :)
[07:31] <Cyber_Stalker> lol @ crell
[07:31] <Cyber_Stalker> u just gave me an idea
[07:31] <DarthLappy> Cyber_Stalker: Haha, true.
[07:31] <thoreauputic> Crell: umm ~/bin I think you meant
[07:31] <jw_606> DarthLappy, can I pm you these 2 errors? They are only 2 lines
[07:31] <elysium444> I can login as root in terminal but couldnt login in synaptic package manager while installing packages. it says incorrect password. how can i use synaptic manager?
[07:31] <voraistos> Crell: I was thinking, you certainly have a Debian install CD... what you can do is install a bsic DEbian system, then change the repos and install ubuntu packages... after that you can make (without rebooting, just in cas it installs  a nubunu kernel) your own vanilla kernel
[07:31] <RMorris84> Crell: theres nothing in there about the device
[07:31] <DarthLappy> jw_606: Yeah, sure.
[07:31] <Cyber_Stalker> elysium444, the root pass is wht you use for synaptic
[07:31] <thoreauputic> RMorris84: auto mounted usb devices don't appear in fstab
[07:32] <thoreauputic> RMorris84: try /etc/mtab
[07:32] <Crell> voraistos: wb.  That sounds... messy. :)
[07:32] <Cyber_Stalker> if you have numbers in your pass trying using the numbers above your standard keys instead of the numpad :P
[07:32] <Crell> And wouldn't that then lose all of the standard Kubuntu setup and auto-configuration?
[07:32] <Pie-rate> how do i get glut.h?
[07:32] <bakks> can someone please help me install mysql over ssh, i am having trouble getting it working
[07:32] <Crell> RMorris84: How are you mounting it?
[07:32] <RMorris84> ok /dev/sdb1 /media/usbdisk ext3 rw,nosuid,nodev 0 0
[07:32] <Erb_> How do I add 'nobody' to the sudoers file in regards to the correct syntax?
[07:32] <matsyes> crell: ah cool :p i'll change that then ...ah btw i put the $1 option in the alias path and put that in a script that too works
[07:33] <voraistos> Crell: no, i did that before, its doable :P
[07:33] <Crell> voraistos: Would an alternate install CD work better?
[07:33] <DarthLappy> jw_606: Did you send the PM?
[07:33] <jw_606> DarthLappy, Yes I did
[07:33] <RMorris84> Crell: i just turn it on and it appeared after i set it up using cfdisk
[07:33] <neurotech> What's the chmod to give full access?
[07:33] <thoreauputic> RMorris84: OK looks like it is mounted then at least
[07:33] <Crell> voraistos: Doable, but how easily.  And if ubuntu does that much to the kernel, then isn't that something I want?
[07:33] <jw_606> Try sending me one maybe?
[07:34] <RMorris84> thoreauputic: how come i cant delete stuff off of it?
[07:34] <matsyes> crell : oops the alias one doesnt
[07:34] <thoreauputic> RMorris84: hang on a minute
[07:34] <RMorris84> and when i was trying copy stuff... after a while it would error out and say i cant write to it anymore
[07:34] <RMorris84> ok
[07:34] <Crell> RMorris84: Sounds like odd automounting rules, which I don't know much about.  Try adding "gid=users" (without quotes) to the front of the list that begins rw,  No spaces, just another comma.
[07:34] <Crell> Then remount it.
[07:34] <DarthLappy> jw_606: Just stick 'em in a pastebin so others can have a look too.
[07:34] <voraistos> Crell: I am currently using a vanilla kernel, and it doesnt change much (not at all for me in fact). But you can try ....
[07:34] <matsyes> crell:i'm curious do u think theres anyway to do this with alias without the script
[07:35] <elysium444> I can login as root in terminal but couldnt login in synaptic package manager with the root pass. it says incorrect password. how can i use synaptic manager?
[07:35] <Crell> matsyes: If you have the script, you don't need an alias at all.
[07:35] <Crell> Just make sure /bin/em is accessible via your path.
[07:35] <Crell> er, /home/you/bin/em
[07:35] <thoreauputic> RMorris84: try this:  sudo chown yourusername:yourusername /media/usbdisk ( where you substitute your actual username of course)
[07:36] <matsyes> crell:yeah that is true ... i was just wondering if there would be another way
[07:36] <Crell> voraistos: Hrm.  So which would you suggest has a better chance of rapid success, installing Debian Sarge basic and mutating or using the alternate CD?
[07:36] <matsyes> crell: curousity and all that :P
[07:36] <Crell> Meow. :-)
[07:37] <bakks> can someone please help me get mysql working?
[07:37] <thoreauputic> RMorris84: I assume you formatted it yourself as ext3, as root....
[07:37] <RMorris84> thoreauputic: sudo chown bob:bob /media/usbdisk/  chown: changing ownership of `/media/usbdisk/': Read-only file system
[07:37] <Crell> bakks: Depends what's wrong with it.
[07:37] <voraistos> well, the alternate CD uses the same kernel.... However the server version uses a different kernel (but i dont know how much different it is), since you hav debian, i think its worth a try.
[07:37] <bakks> i am doing the cut and dried install process
[07:37] <Crell> I've installed server before.  It's VERY different.
[07:37] <bakks> and it is giving me access denied errors
[07:37] <Catshrimp> Anyone know why when I install ubuntu 6.10 full that the fglrx drivers work, but when I install just the base system and then install x-window-system-core && fluxbox that the fglrx driver doesn't work?
[07:37] <neurotech> What's the chmod to give full access?
[07:37] <bakks> its server
[07:37] <elysium444> I can login as root in terminal but couldnt login in synaptic package manager while installing packages. it says incorrect password. how can i use synaptic manager?
[07:37] <thoreauputic> RMorris84: right... did you format it as root?
[07:38] <Crell> For instance, desktop includes wireless drivers by default.  Server doesn't have them at all.
[07:38] <Crell> That makes installing server as a "Base minimal" version on a box that only has a wireless card rather difficult. :-)
[07:38] <RMorris84> i did it all with fdisk... and yes i believe lol
[07:38] <bakks> thats not the problem
[07:38] <cherubiel> RMorris84: how did you mount it? an entry in /etc/fstab ?
[07:38] <thoreauputic> RMorris84:  sudo chown root:plugdev /dev/sdb1
[07:38] <Crell> bakks: You did aptitutde install mysql?
[07:39] <VMT2007> oh nice
[07:39] <bakks> apt-get
[07:39] <VMT2007> I can't even play this damned DVD
[07:39] <bakks> i think my errors are stemming from the fact that i am doing it over ssh
[07:39] <mistone_> wtf
[07:39] <jbutler> this hydrogen program kinda makes me feel stupid for spending $250 on a drum machine.  This is way better and its free.
[07:39] <mistone_> I still can't configure xorg to go past 800x600 on my HD LCD TV :(
[07:40] <RMorris84> thoreauputic: i did that
[07:40] <RMorris84> now what?
[07:40] <exs> What's the quickest way to check what my wifi card is?
[07:40] <voraistos> Crell, the i say, instal the server version, make a custom kernel, and install the ubuntu-desktop package on top of that.
[07:40] <Crell> Does apt-get give you any errors?
[07:40] <elysium444> I can login as root in terminal but couldnt login in synaptic package manager while installing packages. it says incorrect password. how can i use synaptic manager?
[07:40] <Crell> exs: lspci
[07:40] <thoreauputic> RMorris84: can you write to it now?
[07:40] <DragonRift> can live cd read both windows and linux partitions?
[07:40] <Crell> Hrm.  Custom vanilla?
[07:40] <elysium444> I can install through the terminal...
[07:40] <bakks> no, that all worked fine, the problem is when i try to set the root password
[07:40] <thoreauputic> RMorris84: I assume you are in the plugdev group...
[07:40] <Crell> I'm going to burn a copy of alternate first anyway, since my burning software is on the system I'm reformatting. :-)
[07:41] <RMorris84> no i cant write to it
[07:41] <RMorris84> i dont know if im in that group lol
[07:41] <thoreauputic> RMorris84: running out of ideas, sorry
[07:41] <DragonRift> anyone?
[07:41] <voraistos> Crell: OK, just kep us informed :)
[07:41] <thoreauputic> RMorris84: type "groups" to see
[07:41] <cherubiel> RMorris84: how did you mount it? r/o or r/w ?
[07:41] <elysium444> I can login as root in terminal but couldnt login in synaptic package manager while installing packages. it says incorrect password. how can i use synaptic manager? I am using ubuntu 10.6, i can install through the terminal
[07:41] <Crell> bakks: How are you doing so?
[07:42] <DragonRift> can live cd read both windows and linux partitions?
[07:42] <thoreauputic> cherubiel: I assume he just plugged it in...
[07:42] <RMorris84> yeah im in plugdev...
[07:42] <Crell> wtf?  Alternate CD is 700 MB, too?
[07:42] <RMorris84> cherubiel: i dont know... it automounts
[07:42] <RMorris84> i just turn it on
[07:42] <VMT2007> seems this DVD isn't being decrypted correctly
[07:42] <bakks> sudo mysqladmin -u root password newrootsqlpassword
[07:42] <bakks> thats what i'm using
[07:42] <bakks> that works fine
[07:42] <elysium444> DragonRift: yes it can read if you mount them
[07:42] <thoreauputic> elysium444: you don't run synaptic as root - it wants your password
[07:42] <bakks> and then the line to set the ps for localhost gives me access denied errors
[07:42] <thoreauputic> !root > elysium444
[07:42] <DragonRift> well what I want to do is use a livecd for data recovery
[07:43] <elysium444> the pass is elysium444????
[07:43] <omersiartr> how can i understand that my ubuntu running 64bit
[07:43] <thoreauputic> elysium444: no, your user password :)
[07:43] <Crell> omersiartr: I don't know, do you understand it? :-)
[07:43] <elysium444> lol
[07:43] <elysium444> ok
[07:43] <omersiartr> :)
[07:43] <omersiartr> my english not very good
[07:43] <thoreauputic> elysium444: read about sudo
[07:43] <thoreauputic> !sudo
[07:43] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:43] <Crell> omersiartr: Try: uname -a
[07:43] <VMT2007> please don't tell me the repos don't have libdvdcss
[07:44] <omersiartr> okay Crell
[07:44] <thoreauputic> !libdvdcss
[07:44] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:44] <Shadow_mil> omersiartr: what language are you good at?
[07:44] <Crell> VMT2007: They don't.  Legal reasons.  They have a script to install it from elsewhere instead.
[07:44] <VMT2007> ah
[07:44] <thoreauputic> :)
[07:44] <VMT2007> Why is it illegal anyway?
[07:44] <Crell> Debian does the same.
[07:44] <Catshrimp> Anyone know why when I install ubuntu 6.10 full that the fglrx drivers work, but when I install just the base system and then install x-window-system-core && fluxbox that the fglrx driver doesn't work?
[07:44] <Crell> Because US copyright law is AFU.
[07:44] <VMT2007> meh
[07:44] <VMT2007> damn lawmakers
[07:44] <omersiartr> Linux ubuntuheyya 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Tue Dec 5 21:16:35 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux Crell
[07:45] <omersiartr> is it 64 bit
[07:45] <jw_606> DarthLappy?
[07:45] <Crell> The "x86_64" means you're running a 64-bit kernel.
[07:45] <bitflip> omersiartr: yes
[07:45] <DarthLappy> jw_606: Yes?
[07:45] <jw_606> Did you get my pm with the error?
[07:45] <DarthLappy> jw_606: Nope.
[07:45] <elysium444> it works fine
[07:45] <omersiartr> 64 bit kernel but not 64 bit programs ??
[07:45] <elysium444> thanks
[07:45] <DarthLappy> jw_606: Your nick isn't registered.
[07:45] <diskus> omersiartr: if you installed ubuntu from 32bit install cd then yes
[07:45] <Shadow_mil> omersiartr: you can run 32-bit programs on 64-bit system/kernel
[07:46] <Shadow_mil> I think
[07:46] <Shadow_mil> if I recall correctly
[07:46] <omersiartr> are my programs 64bit
[07:46] <thoreauputic> !chroot
[07:46] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[07:46] <diskus> omersiartr: probably not
[07:46] <omersiartr> default programs
[07:46] <omersiartr> like firefox
[07:46] <Shadow_mil> omersiartr: yeah... since its OSS... its easy to compile them for 64-bit
[07:46] <omersiartr> oss
[07:46] <omersiartr> ??
[07:46] <diskus> omersiartr: there's realy no reason to use 64-bit software yet
[07:46] <omersiartr> what is it
[07:47] <omersiartr> okay but i cant install flash player extension
[07:47] <Shadow_mil> omersiartr: Open Source Software... it is what makes Linux better then windows... in my opinion
[07:47] <jw_606> DarkLappy, here is the output when I run 'make' http://paste.getlinuxhelp.org/52597
[07:47] <Shadow_mil> omersiartr: look oss up on wikipedia for more information
[07:47] <bitflip> omersiartr: because they only have 32 bit builds of it and you are probably running a 64bit build of firefox
[07:48] <bitflip> omersiartr: "of it" being flash
[07:48] <omersiartr> how can i understand my firefox is 64bit
[07:48] <Crell> For a desktop, there's too much software that doesn't work in 64-bit yet.
[07:48] <asher> is there a way to manipulate screen-saver options?
[07:48] <Crell> For a server, with a much smaller set of programs, it's OK.
[07:49] <omersiartr> okay but you said my progs are 32 nit
[07:49] <omersiartr> bit
[07:49] <beowuff_> asher, I install xscreensaver and run xscreensaver-demo. That lets you change settings for any screensaver...
[07:49] <Crell> Depends how you installed the system, really.
[07:49] <Shadow_mil> Crell: thats changing... 64-bit is the new way :D
[07:49] <jw_606> DarthLappy, sorry :)
[07:49] <diskus> omersiartr: if I were you I would stick with 32-bit for a while
[07:49] <omersiartr> i installed from 64 bit iso
[07:49] <asher> is xscreensaver compatible with the lock screen button?
[07:50] <Crell> Shadow_mil: When OOo, flash, and Wine work in 64-bit without weird jail environments, let me know. :-)
[07:50] <nepa1> rapid, hji
[07:50] <DarthLappy> jw_606: You don't seem to have the string.h header.
[07:50] <diskus> omersiartr: then most software that can be run in 64-bit is 64-bit
[07:50] <beowuff_> asher, I don't know in Gnome. I use a lock screen button on gkrellm, and that works.
[07:50] <omersiartr> okay
[07:50] <Shadow_mil> Crell: when all your 32-bit programs stop working in 30 some years, let me know
[07:51] <jw_606> DarthLappy, that file should have been included with the rest of the source?
[07:51] <omersiartr> how can i know that my firefox is 64 bit
[07:51] <bitflip> omersiartr: listen - save yourself grief and switch to a 32bit version of ubuntu for your 64bit "desktop"
[07:51] <DarthLappy> jw_606: No, it should have come with gcc, I imagine.
[07:51] <cherubiel> omersiartr: file firefoxbinary
[07:51] <Crell> In 30 years I plan to be running GNU/HURD v12 with direct neural connections.
[07:51] <beowuff_> Shadow_mil, wouldn't that be in 32 years?
[07:51] <Shadow_mil> omersiartr: one second
[07:51] <jw_606> DarthLappy, is that an easy install then?
[07:51] <DarthLappy> jw_606: Anyway, I've gotta head off -- sorry.
[07:51] <petafile> What's the panel applet that lets you choose between wired/wireless and wired channel connections?
[07:51] <Shadow_mil> 2038
[07:52] <DarthLappy> jw_606: If you're compiling stuff, you should have it :)
[07:52] <petafile> I seem to have removed it from the panel or something
[07:52] <Shadow_mil> 32 ~= 30 some
[07:52] <Crell> Fuzzy Math. :-)
[07:52] <nepa1> bobbyd, hi
[07:53] <rand> lol Crell
[07:53] <Shadow_mil> omersiartr: open a terminal and try       firefox -v
[07:53] <omersiartr> okay
[07:53] <omersiartr> file firefoxbinary
[07:53] <cherubiel> omersiartr: open up a terminal, go to the firefox installation directory and type "file firefox-bin"
[07:53] <petafile> I think in fedora it was called something like network manager dispatch, I was using it before, how to i get it back on the panel?
[07:54] <omersiartr> Mozilla Firefox 2.0, Copyright (c) 1998 - 2006 mozilla.org
[07:54] <cherubiel> omersiartr: do what i said..
[07:54] <cherubiel> omersiartr: and paste the output here
[07:54] <Shadow_mil> omersiartr: try what cherubiel suggested
[07:54] <omersiartr> but
[07:54] <Shadow_mil> firefox -v was a long shot... lol
[07:54] <omersiartr> i dont know where the firefox is
[07:54] <omersiartr> :(
[07:54] <cherubiel> omersiartr: type which firefox
[07:54] <cherubiel> omersiartr: which firefox
[07:55] <cherubiel> omersiartr: that gives you the path
[07:55] <omersiartr> oak
[07:55] <omersiartr> ok
[07:55] <Shadow_mil> omersiartr: locate firefox-bin
[07:55] <cherubiel> omersiartr: what does which firefox give ?
[07:56] <omersiartr> omersiar@ubuntuheyya:/usr/bin$ cd firefox
[07:56] <omersiartr> bash: cd: firefox: Not a directory
[07:56] <omersiartr> omersiar@ubuntuheyya:/usr/bin$
[07:56] <cherubiel> omersiartr: which firefox
[07:56] <omersiartr> omersiar@ubuntuheyya:~$ which firefox
[07:56] <omersiartr> /usr/bin/firefox
[07:56] <cherubiel> omersiartr:  good
[07:56] <cherubiel> omersiartr: now do a file /usr/bin/firefox-bin
[07:57] <omersiartr> file /usr/bin/firefox-bin
[07:57] <omersiartr> /usr/bin/firefox-bin: ERROR: cannot open `/usr/bin/firefox-bin' (No such file or directory)
[07:57] <asher> my cat is making the angry cat smell
[07:57] <asher> :(
[07:57] <Shadow_mil> omersiartr: file /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin
[07:57] <cherubiel> Shadow_mil: thanks :)
[07:58] <omersiartr> usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, AMD x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.0, stripped
[07:58] <Shadow_mil> cherubiel: yeah... it weird... firefox file basically points there... its really annoying some times
[07:58] <omersiartr> thank you guys
[07:58] <cherubiel> omersiartr: that was beerware :P
[07:58] <cherubiel> whaddya say Shadow_mil ? :)
[07:58] <omersiartr> :)
[07:58] <omersiartr> okay now
[07:59] <jbutler> man, i cant get over how cool Synaptic is!  A simple search for Synth gave me an awesome commercial quality synthesizer emulator for free installed with a click.  THis is ridiculous.
[07:59] <omersiartr> how can i install the 32 bit firefox
[07:59] <jbutler> my Absynth that i use cost me $199
[07:59] <jbutler> for windows.
[07:59] <Shadow_mil> the /usr/bin/firefox to /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin relationship is weird
[07:59] <omersiartr> but he gave me the command
[07:59] <holycow> jbutler, vcool to see that you find a benefit of it
[07:59] <omersiartr> Shadow_mil:
[08:00] <cherubiel> omersiartr: you could either get the binary compiled for a 32-bit version from mozilla.com or get the source and cross compile it for a 320bit target
[08:00] <jbutler> its just so much easier for someone who doesnt know much about software to use than windows
[08:00] <Crell> jbutler: Package repositories rock. :-)
[08:00] <Shadow_mil> omersiartr: remove firefox... first... then install a new firefox... though you may need to get the 32-bit install from the mozilla web site..
[08:00] <jbutler> rather than having to go out and buy it and install it and hope it works you just click once
[08:00] <omersiartr> okay
[08:00] <holycow> jbutler, indeed, provided they understand that some assumptions must be left behind
[08:00] <jbutler> and if it isnt good, you didnt spend any money, so you just grab something else that might!
[08:00] <omersiartr> i will try thank you very much
[08:00] <Shadow_mil> np
[08:00] <holycow> jbutler, you pretty much nailed the benfits of a centralized package management *nod*
[08:01] <Catshrimp> If I install the server version of ubuntu, do I have the exact same kernel as that packaged with the full ubuntu version?
[08:01] <Crell> Catshrimp: Nope.
[08:01] <jbutler> with audigy, amsynth, hydrogen and a driver for my firebox, you can pretty much assemble a studio-quality setup for free on linux with five clicks, counting the "login" button
[08:02] <Crell> The desktop and server flavors have VERY different default kernels.
[08:02] <holycow> Crell, really? i though they were identical
[08:02] <cherubiel> Catshrimp: you could always upgrade to the latest kernel in the repos, so it really doesn;t matter..
[08:02] <holycow> i will check over the weekend
[08:02] <Crell> No.
[08:02] <Shadow_mil> I did two
[08:02] <Crell> Sever is SMP, no wifi, etc.  Desktop has wifi drivers, is single-proc, etc.
[08:02] <Catshrimp> cherubiel: I'm just wondering if it'll install the lastest "server" kernel
[08:02] <Crell> Not sure of the others differences, but those are the two I've run into.
[08:03] <holycow> what is different about the kernels?
[08:03] <holycow> i see no reason for them to be different in any way whatsoever
[08:03] <Crell> Different drivers included, optimized for different activities, etc.
[08:03] <Catshrimp> Crell: any way to get the desktop kernel on a server install or to install ubuntu desktop without the gui or any extra packages but the base system?
[08:03] <cherubiel> i believe just the drives/modules loaded changes
[08:03] <holycow> infact they come from the same code base
[08:03] <Shocka311> Can anyone tell me how i would find and install the drivers for a new cdrom on ubuntu
[08:03] <holycow> Crell, i don't believe you at all actually
[08:03] <Catshrimp> Crell: yeah, I think that's why I can't get my fglrx drivers working
[08:03] <Crell> Catshrimp: aptitude install new-kernel-package-here
[08:03] <cherubiel> true, holycow
[08:03] <holycow> i'm gonna double check tho
[08:04] <superb0wl> holycow you should hang out with some gentoo guys every single one of them has a different kernel
[08:04] <Crell> holycow: I spent 6 hours trying to figure out why wireless wasn't working on a server install I did before I realized that was the issue.  Trust me. :-)
[08:04] <holycow> superb0wl, i know, thats why i use debian/ubuntu :)
[08:04] <Crell> (That was with 6.06)
[08:04] <Shadow_mil> I am fairly sure the server and desktop use the same kernel
[08:04] <holycow> Crell, impossible
[08:04] <holycow> the kernel is entirely modular
[08:04] <holycow> you just need to add the right packages and off you go
[08:04] <Crell> Yes, and they have different modules enabled in the different versions.
[08:04] <cherubiel> Crell: you prolly didn't have the driver modules loaded.
[08:04] <Crell> No, it wasn't there.  I looked for it.
[08:05] <holycow> server is just a different set of packages by default from what i understood
[08:05] <holycow> *nod* i'll check thanks for the heads up mate
[08:05] <Crell> The desktop CD autodetected the wireless and enabled it.  The server CD didn't know what wireless was.
[08:05] <Shadow_mil> Crell: did you have it enabled in /boot/config*
[08:05] <Crell> Yes.
[08:05] <neurotech> How can I make a folder writeable?
[08:05] <holycow> no i don't believe that at all
[08:05] <holycow> that makes no sense
[08:05] <holycow> to do something like that would be EXTREMELY dumb
[08:05] <Crell> holycow: Why not?  Why waste memory in a kernel for a server on wireless?
[08:05] <neurotech> is it sudo chmod 777 folder ?
[08:05] <Shadow_mil> neurotech: what folder?
[08:05] <Catshrimp> cherubiel: mind checking to see which version of the kernel is installed on the desktop version?
[08:05] <holycow> Crell, because its a dynamic kernel dude
[08:05] <holycow> this is debian
[08:05] <neurotech> it's a folder I've mapped a drive to
[08:06] <holycow> only things required are loaded
[08:06] <neurotech> Hard drive, Shadow_mil
[08:06] <cherubiel> neurotech: chmod +w
[08:06] <holycow> this is not gentoo
[08:06] <Catshrimp> cherubiel: i've got the server installed right now :/
[08:06] <Shadow_mil> neurotech: you mapped a drive... you can map drives in Linux...
[08:06] <holycow> but anyway, i'll just accept your experience, clearly you had some issues, i am curious
[08:06] <cherubiel> Catshrimp: i am not running the stock kernel..
[08:06] <Crell> holycow: Go install server 6.06 on a box with only a wifi NIC, no wired.
[08:06] <neurotech> ta cherubiel!
[08:07] <Crell> Try to get it to find the network.
[08:07] <holycow> Crell, indeed, over the weekend
[08:07] <Pie-rate> if something compiles with gcc with -ansi and -pedantic is it definitely standard? a student used the "and" operator, not "&&," but "and." it compiles under gcc with -ansi -pedantic but not under MS visual studio (i realize this may be somewhat offtopic)
[08:07] <Crell> Now install desktop on the same box.
[08:07] <holycow> it would make no sense for server to have a DIFFERENT kernel
[08:07] <Crell> I was using an Aetheros chipset card, very well supported.
[08:07] <cherubiel> Catshrimp: it should be around 2.6.15.27 or higher, for the stock ones(the ones that comes with the install)
[08:07] <holycow> debian kernels are ALL modular
[08:07] <Crell> Different = different compile options.
[08:07] <holycow> i really haveto see this
[08:07] <Crell> It makes perfect sense.  Not everything is just a matter of modular drivers.
[08:08] <holycow> for example?
[08:08] <Crell> SMP support.
[08:08] <holycow> how does a server worklaod differ from a desktop that would warrant a custom kernel?
[08:08] <Crell> Preemptive
[08:08] <holycow> all ubuntu kernels are preemptive
[08:08] <holycow> and smp enabled
[08:08] <holycow> at least as of 6.06
[08:08] <Crell> I'm listing things that can't be done as modules.
[08:08] <holycow> right, thats enabled on desktop too tho
[08:09] <Shadow_mil> Crell: what is different that is not modular
[08:09] <jbutler> holycow: sorry im bothering you with newbie stuff, but on boot my machine writes in white text on black before going to the ubuntu graphic "SMP not enabled... tell your hardware manufacturer!" and then boots with no problem.  Is this something i should be worried about?
[08:09] <Crell> I don't have a full list in front of me.
[08:09] <Catshrimp> cherubiel: I wouldn't need any extra repos installed, would I?  Because I've run "aptitude search kernel" and I'm getting a bunch of results back for 2.4.x kernels but no 2.6.x
[08:09] <jbutler> that SMP comment kinda jogged my memory about that.
[08:09] <sukarn> can someone please tell me where I can change my dns settings? I am using pppoe here.
[08:09] <lupine_85> sukarn: /etc/resolv.conf
[08:09] <Crell> I just recall reading that the kernel was "optimized for servers" when it was announced, and my own experience with wireless.
[08:09] <holycow> Crell, no problem not givin ya a hard time at all.  added to todo list
[08:09] <lupine_85> or your local friendly GUI alternative
[08:10] <cherubiel> Catshrimp: not at all, its in the main repo.
[08:10] <Shadow_mil> Crell: wireless stuff is all modular...
[08:10] <holycow> jbutler, not really no
[08:11] <Crell> Dude, I know the kernel modules can be compiled as modules.  I've been compiling my own kernels for 5 years.
[08:11] <sukarn> thanks lupine_85
[08:11] <lupine_85> np. note that dhcp can overwrite those settings
[08:11] <elysium444> !dvd
[08:11] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[08:12] <lupine_85> I think you can set something in the dhclient conf to override that behaviour, but I'm not sure what
[08:13] <sukarn> ok, thanks
[08:13] <cherubiel> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311764 , hmm mthsi says the server version has a different kernel.. interesting..
[08:14] <Trixsey> Programs run by the session manager in Ubuntu
[08:14] <Trixsey> are they run as root?
[08:14] <holycow> nope
[08:14] <holycow> as the user loggedin
[08:14] <Shadow_mil> Trixsey: session manager is for your login, gnome/KDE/WE session
[08:15] <Trixsey> yeah but since it executes command
[08:15] <cherubiel> Crell: you seem to be right.. http://www.ossblog.it/post/338/interview-with-the-team-leader-of-the-ubuntu-server-project
[08:15] <Trixsey> I was wondering under which user it did
[08:15] <elysium444> !mp3
[08:15] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:15] <holycow> Tristan, they user that logs in
[08:15] <Trixsey> ok
[08:15] <Trixsey> thx
[08:15] <Shadow_mil> Trixsey: the user logging in ^_^
[08:15] <holycow> session manager only executes programs on login
[08:15] <Trixsey> I want to execute a program on login that requires sudo though
[08:15] <Trixsey> how do I do?
[08:15] <Trixsey> no session manager?
[08:15] <elysium444> !wine
[08:15] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:16] <holycow> Trixsey, never tried that, i would imagin you just add sudo in front of the command ... i don't know how the pass is handled
[08:16] <holycow> sounds unsafe
[08:16] <Shadow_mil> Trixsey: if you want to run a program as root when you login... use gksu program
[08:16] <Shadow_mil> and it will ask for a password
[08:16] <cherubiel> d
[08:16] <Shadow_mil> when you login
[08:16] <Trixsey> oh.. that is a hassle
[08:16] <Trixsey> :/
[08:16] <holycow> oh yeah thats right that happend to me
[08:16] <Shadow_mil> Trixsey: what program do you have in mind?
[08:16] <Crell> Trixsey: Yep.  That's the idea. :-)
[08:17] <Trixsey> a proxy server
[08:17] <holycow> indeed
[08:17] <Trixsey> I'd like to run on startup
[08:17] <Trixsey> tinyproxy to be specific
[08:17] <holycow> oh your doing that wrong
[08:17] <Crell> If you're going to run something as root, which can screw up your system, then you SHOULD have to be bothered for a password.
[08:17] <holycow> you should run that a service
[08:17] <Catshrimp> Aye, it's stored under linux-image rather than kernel ?
[08:17] <Crell> What holycow said.
[08:17] <Catshrimp> ** :/
[08:17] <Trixsey> nvm
[08:17] <Shadow_mil> Trixsey: use it with init run modes
[08:17] <holycow> that requires a bit more knowledge tho
[08:17] <holycow> right what Shadow_mil said
[08:17] <Trixsey> chmod +rwx means read write execute for everyone?
[08:17] <Shadow_mil> holycow: I can't read all the posts... 2 many of them :(
[08:18] <holycow> Shadow_mil, lol :)
[08:18] <Trixsey> how do I give permissions for a user to do something to a certain file?
[08:18] <Shadow_mil> chmod
[08:18] <Trixsey> right now a log file requires root and thus I can't use it
[08:19] <Trixsey> I tried chmod +rwx *some file*
[08:19] <holycow> well no
[08:19] <holycow> you set the log file to the same perms as the app requiring to write to it
[08:19] <Crell> Trixsey: chmod ugo+rwx is the equivalent of 777, but you don't want to do that.
[08:19] <holycow> however ... you still should be starting some things with init scripts and need to read up on proper permissions
[08:19] <holycow> typically an app like a proxy will have some info somewhere on how to set that up tho
[08:20] <Trixsey> Crell, security reasons?
[08:20] <Trixsey> I mean its only a logfile
[08:20] <Shadow_mil> Trixsey: yeah
[08:20] <Crell> voraistos: Well, the alternate CD burned fine, and went straight to checking integrity when I told it to.  No whining about hdc.
[08:21] <Crell> Trixsey: Until someone overwrites it with the line "/bin/bash rm -rf /." and then executes it. :-)
[08:21] <holycow> lol
[08:21] <holycow> fun
[08:21] <Crell> Then it's a disaster.
[08:21] <voraistos> Crell, nice to hear that. however i cant see where the problem is. Certainly a liveCD specific unwanted feature/bug :)
[08:21] <Crell> Seems like.
[08:21] <Crell> Given the hour, I'm going to bed.
[08:21] <Crell> But I'll try installing with the alternate CD tomorrow.
[08:21] <Trixsey> Crell, how do I give permissions to tinyproxy to use the logfile then?
[08:22] <FibonacciPrower> Excuse me, does anyone here know how to install Ubuntu on an existing partition?
[08:22] <holycow> Trixsey, chmod
[08:22] <Trixsey> yeah but syntax? chmod *program* +rwx *program2*?
[08:22] <holycow> Trixsey, man chmod
[08:22] <cherubiel> Trixsey: give perms to the user who runs the program
[08:23] <holycow> typically its chod 111 somefile/somewhere but read up the man on it
[08:23] <exs> quickest way to find out what type my wifi card is?
[08:23] <holycow> where 111 is a permission line like 755 or some such
[08:23] <holycow> also
[08:23] <holycow> look up chown
[08:23] <Trixsey> security is IMO a hype in linux :P
[08:23] <Trixsey> like 10k people is waiting to hack you
[08:23] <Crell> People?  No.  Bots?  Yes.
[08:24] <holycow> Trixsey, no, what is truth is however, is windows users coming in here thinking they have a clue
[08:24] <Crell> But it's better than Windows where there's 1000k bots waiting.
[08:24] <holycow> and REFUSING to listen to experience and good advice
[08:24] <lynucs> exs what do you mean with "which kind"
[08:24] <holycow> that really is where its at unfortunately
[08:24] <lynucs> which chip?
[08:24] <cherubiel> exs: try lspci
[08:25] <Trixsey> never got hacked in windows :P
[08:25] <FibonacciPrower> I thought MPlayer was supposed to play WMV files?
[08:25] <Crell> Trixsey: That you know of.
[08:25] <holycow> Trixsey, if you had a virus or spyware you have been hacked
[08:25] <asher> supposed to is a relativce term
[08:25] <Trixsey> pfft :P
[08:25] <holycow> each of those REQUIRES a complete reinstall from a security perspective btw
[08:25] <Crell> Modern crackers don't steal files from desktops.  They install mail relays that send spam for them.
[08:25] <elysium444> !cedega
[08:25] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[08:25] <holycow> you can't be in here pretending you haven't been completely owned
[08:25] <elysium444> !cadega
[08:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cadega - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:26] <ddaemon> i just installed Edgy on a Thinkpad X60s and the sound level is really low.  At max volume, it wouldn't be audible on a plane over the jet engines.  Is there any way to tweak a setting and get more out of the sound?
[08:26] <n2diy> Trixsey:  you did you ever have to mount windows?
[08:26] <lynucs> ddaemon, did you use alsamixer?
[08:26] <Trixsey> mount windows?
[08:27] <Crell> Then they send out 100,000 spam messages in a day, of which about 2 reply and get suckered into departing with their money because they're morons.
[08:27] <Crell> But that's a profit of $10k from that person in return for $0 outlay, which is a pretty damned good return.
[08:27] <n2diy> Yes, mount and then do an fsck?
[08:27] <Trixsey> no?
[08:27] <holycow> and 100% of the spam comes from windows machines
[08:27] <holycow> chances are one of them was Trixsey 's
[08:27] <holycow> heh :)
[08:27] <Crell> Hm.  I've never used LVM.  I keep thinking about it, but never do. :-)  Is it worth bothering?
[08:27] <holycow> kiddin ya dude :)
[08:27] <Trixsey> I think I'd notice if I had a bot sending out like 100k emails a day :P
[08:27] <ddaemon> lynucs, no, explain?
[08:27] <Crell> 100%?  No, not quite.  98.9%, maybe.
[08:28] <n2diy> Trixsey:  welcome to linux!
[08:28] <holycow> actually you wouldn't
[08:28] <Trixsey> thanks :P
[08:28] <holycow> 100k is not very much at all acxtually
[08:28] <Trixsey> I've only been using ubuntu for like a week :o
[08:28] <holycow> millions isn't a lot either
[08:28] <lynucs> try to type alsamixer in the terminal
[08:28] <asher> ubuntu is super for entry level linu
[08:28] <asher> linux
[08:28] <Crell> !lvm
[08:28] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[08:28] <holycow> you could actually bot a win machine to send out millions of emails without really rising anyone attention unless they have a really good proactive firewall
[08:29] <asher> you should see the state of windows computers on college campuses
[08:29] <n2diy> Trixsey: mount, and fsck are linux commands, linux is an xxx operating system.! :)
[08:29] <Trixsey> rofl :p
[08:29] <holycow> asher, if the students only had money for fixing :)
[08:29] <holycow> someone would be rich instantly
[08:29] <holycow> hehe
[08:30] <deshantm> !xen
[08:30] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[08:30] <ddaemon> lynucs, got it up, how do i use it?
[08:30] <Crell> grep, finger, mount, fsck, more, fsck sleep.
[08:30] <ddaemon> like any other mixer?
[08:30] <vanberge> anybody willing to help me configure grub?  i have a windows hd as  a slave, adn ubuntu added that as a boot option
[08:31] <lynucs> just play a bit with settings... is every column up?
[08:31] <lupine_85> vanberge: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:31] <lupine_85> it's all fairly well commented
[08:31] <lynucs> oh, btw, does your thinkpad have a subwoofer?
[08:31] <Trixsey> omg lupine_85 is everywhere :P
[08:31] <Crell> Have I mentioned that I HATE how Ubuntu insists on having only one partition?
[08:31] <lupine_85> oh yes :p
[08:31] <lupine_85> Crell: it doesn't
[08:31] <lupine_85> you can have as many as you want
[08:31] <Trixsey> I HATE ubuntus repos weird dependencies.. :(
[08:31] <vanberge> lupine_85, tyvm
[08:31] <deshantm> !botu
[08:31] <PeanutHorst> hey tri
[08:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:32] <lynucs> ddaemon, pcm and master are up?
[08:32] <Crell> Yes, but all of its automated everything is one big partition.
[08:32] <deshantm> !ubotu
[08:32] <lupine_85> in particular, I have / , /home , /media/shared , /media/64bit-root
[08:32] <diskus> Crell: I like that :P
[08:32] <Crell> You have to manually partition for anything reasonable.
[08:32] <lupine_85> Crell: that's reasonable
[08:32] <lupine_85> automatic is for non-power-users
[08:32] <Trixsey> whats wrong with one partition?
[08:32] <ddaemon> lynucs, yes all the way
[08:32] <raxip> ok
[08:32] <voraistos> !stupid bots
[08:32] <Crell> Same as in Windows.
[08:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stupid bots - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:32] <Crell> If you have to reinstall the OS, there go your documents, too.
[08:32] <Trixsey> people play around too much with partitions.. some have like 6 partitions on one drive.. is just a hassle lol
[08:33] <lupine_85> ...and?
[08:33] <diskus> Trixsey: if you manage to get it full, then there could be problems...
[08:33] <lupine_85> you expect the average user to understand why /home is full but their HD is a 2TB monster?
[08:33] <holycow> Trixsey, not really, it really lets you customize the performance of your machine
[08:33] <diskus> well I have 4 partitions on windows machine :P
[08:33] <Crell> 3 is a good balance.  /, /usr, /home
[08:33] <lynucs> does your thinkpad have a subwoofer?
[08:33] <diskus> easier to manage all the data
[08:33] <ddaemon> i wish...
[08:33] <lupine_85> Crell: you prefer it like that
[08:33] <kraut> moin
[08:34] <lupine_85> personally, I like having /var and /home on a separate partion
[08:34] <holycow> Trixsey, typically you will want /home and /var on separate partitions ... that way if home or your logs fill up for some reason it doesn't take out your system, you would be able to recover live most likely
[08:34] <n2diy> Trixsey: , also, if you need to re-install, you can excude your /home partition, and save most of your stuff.
[08:34] <holycow> lots of differnet possibilities
[08:34] <lynucs> ddaemon: hold on a sec plz
[08:34] <ddaemon> yep
[08:34] <lupine_85> try building that into an automated partitioning system that Works For every user
[08:34] <holycow> what the other guys said *nod*
[08:35] <lynucs> ddaemon: master AND pcm are up??
[08:35] <Crell> Hey look, Edgy has a /srv directory now.  Spiffy.
[08:35] <holycow> Trixsey, it doesn't become obvious till you really start to push your machines tho, one day it just becomes self evident
[08:35] <Trixsey> well.. the more partitions the smaller partitions.. and more "reserved space"
[08:35] <ddaemon> lynucs, yes, all the way
[08:35] <Trixsey> not as versatile system
[08:35] <sushi> !nvidia
[08:35] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:36] <holycow> CreativeEmbassy, what the hell is an srv dir?
[08:36] <holycow> heh
[08:36] <holycow> i mean Crell sorry
[08:36] <elysium444> Crell: what is /srv?
[08:36] <elysium444> !srv
[08:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about srv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:36] <cherubiel> ddaemon: follow the guide at http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Intel&card=ICH+southbridge+HD-audio+and+modem.&chip=ICH6%2C+ICH6M%2C+ICH7%2C+ESB2&module=hda-intel
[08:36] <Crell> It's an LFS standard for "server" data.
[08:36] <asher> brb
[08:36] <Crell> Move stuff like /var/www or /var/mysql out of /var to somewhere more sensical.
[08:37] <elysium444> lfs? I dont mess with that...
[08:37] <lupine_85> lfs+
[08:37] <Crell> er, LSB.  I think.
[08:37] <holycow> Crell, oh really? i didn't know that
[08:37] <lupine_85> erm, ++
[08:37] <holycow> neat
[08:37] <holycow> i wonder if thats on debian too
[08:37] <n2diy> Trixsey: , twew, everything is a trade off.
[08:37] <holycow> etch or whatever
[08:37] <Crell> It's a fairly new addition.  Not everyone does it yet.
[08:37] <Crell> Debian will be last to do it, guaranteed. :-)
[08:37] <lupine_85> but yeah, you meant LSB :p
[08:37] <cge> Does anyone here have firefox installed with the correct dpi setting in layout.css.dpi? If so, could anyone tell me if the resulting sizes of inches in CSS is correct?
[08:38] <Crell> 5 MB /, 20 GB usr, 1 GB swap, 55 GB home.  Sound reasonable?
[08:38] <ddaemon> cherubiel, thanks!
[08:38] <lupine_85> 5MB / ?!
[08:38] <lynucs> ddaemon just to be sure... maybe you could set everything up in alsamixer.. btw in most cases, you can scroll to the right in your alsamixer, where more columns are... just try to set em all up
[08:38] <elysium444> 5mb/??? what about /boot and other?
[08:38] <lupine_85> 1GB swap ?!
[08:38] <Crell> er, 5 GB.  Wrong prefix.
[08:39] <elysium444> 5gb?
[08:39] <PeanutHorst> what is the text-only installer called on ubuntu ?
[08:39] <lupine_85> and what about 5GB hard drives....?
[08:39] <lupine_85> !alternate
[08:39] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[08:39] <lupine_85> PeanutHorst: no idea what it's called, but that's the cd it's on :p
[08:39] <PeanutHorst> alternate cd?
[08:39] <PeanutHorst> im' using ubuntu 6.06LTS
[08:39] <elkbuntu> PeanutHorst, afaik the application is called 'debian installer'
[08:39] <Crell> It's just a menu option on alternate.  I'm installing it as we speak.
[08:39] <holycow> alternate cd gives you the option of using di, the text based installer
[08:39] <ddaemon> lynucs, ok, i'll play around with it.  Thanks for your help
[08:39] <n2diy> Or expert mode?
[08:40] <Crell> lupine_85: What's wrong with a gig of swap?
[08:40] <Trixsey> What features will be introduced in the new version of ubuntu?
[08:40] <lynucs> bt which soundcard?
[08:40] <Trixsey> or well.. what will be new?
[08:40] <lupine_85> Crell: with 1.5GB of RAM... everything
[08:40] <lupine_85> I have 256MB and haven't touched it yet
[08:40] <Crell> On the Sid system this box used to be, I was always running out of home before anything else.
[08:40] <Crell> I've 512 MB RAM. :-)
[08:40] <lupine_85> Crell: *you* did. Other won't
[08:40] <Erb_> How do I add 'nobody' to the sudoers file in regards to the correct syntax?
[08:40] <elysium444> 1gb of swap is good i use 2gb because I have 1gbram and amd64
[08:41] <lupine_85>  /media/shared is where I run out of space :p
[08:41] <lupine_85> now, if ubuntu used LVM by default, such a setup might be practical...
[08:41] <elysium444> lupine_85: thats problably a mount point
[08:41] <neurotech> How do I upgrade my Firefox 1.5 to 2.0 ?
[08:42] <lupine_85> but I really don't fancy walking a new ubuntu user through e2fsresize just because the installer was set up to somebody else's idea of perfect
[08:42] <n2diy> Erb, click on system/admin/users and groups
[08:43] <elysium444> !resolution
[08:43] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:44] <neurotech> How do I upgrade my Firefox 1.5 to 2.0 ?
[08:44] <PeanutHorst> !firefox
[08:44] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[08:44] <holycow> lupine_85, well the live cd is frankly the correct way to give installation to newbs
[08:44] <holycow> as buggy as it is, its a brilliant idea
[08:44] <lupine_85> maybe
[08:44] <lupine_85> if it were decent, definitely
[08:45] <holycow> cuts down on the custom gui installer garbage, so  hopefully it will get better
[08:45] <Crell> OK, it's installing, I'm going to bed.
[08:45] <lupine_85> as it is... I find the text-mode installer easier
[08:45] <holycow> with even a lot of handholding and such
[08:45] <Crell> Night, folks.
[08:45] <Crell> Thanks.
[08:45] <lupine_85> night :)
[08:45] <holycow> lupine_85, lol indeed, currently the live cd is very bad imho ... later
[08:46] <PeanutHorst> how do i do text-mode instal lfrom the ubuntu livecd?
[08:46] <PeanutHorst> di isn't found
[08:47] <holycow> you can't
[08:47] <holycow> you need the alternate cd
[08:47] <PeanutHorst> there was another one i was told earlier, but my scrollback forgets it
[08:47] <holycow> live cd is meant for noobs
[08:47] <PeanutHorst> oh no :(
[08:47] <PeanutHorst> am i at least allowed full control of the install?
[08:47] <holycow> just dl alternate
[08:47] <lupine_85> live cd is meant for general use
[08:47] <lupine_85> it just Fails
[08:47] <HuibertG1ll> !firefox2
[08:47] <PeanutHorst> i.e. package selection?
[08:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about firefox2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:47] <holycow> PeanutHorst, sure it just has a g ui instead of di
[08:47] <PeanutHorst> ew
[08:47] <PeanutHorst> ok
[08:48] <sushi> !xgl
[08:48] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:48] <cge> PeanutHorst: I'm rather certain that you can't select packages.
[08:48] <HuibertG1ll> Does anybody know if I can install firefox2 in dapper, using backports or something?
[08:48] <PeanutHorst> i've cfdisk'ed from the command line (vt1)
[08:48] <lupine_85> HuibertG1ll: the download from the firefox website works...
[08:48] <jimbob> has anyone else had problems getting gmail to work with evolution in edgy?
[08:49] <elysium444> in the xorg.conf, Depth 24 is for16 bits/pixel?
[08:49] <HuibertG1ll> lupine_85: yeah, but I like to advice people to only use synaptic (this question is not for me :)
[08:49] <lupine_85> Depth 24 is for 24 bpp
[08:50] <elysium444> can I add 32 bpp?
[08:50] <lupine_85> HuibertG1ll: if it's not available, it's not available...
[08:50] <lupine_85> elysium444: no, the other 8 bits are for alpha
[08:50] <lupine_85> which is included by default
[08:50] <Madpilot> elysium444, 24 is 32, in this case :)
[08:50] <dope> should i use fiesty fawn or keep using edgy?
[08:50] <elysium444> aaah ok
[08:50] <dope> i'm doing a net isntall
[08:50] <elysium444> thanks
[08:50] <lupine_85> edgy
[08:50] <lupine_85> definitely edgy
[08:50] <dope> new
[08:50] <jimbob> has anyone played with fiesty yet?
[08:50] <HuibertGill> lupine_85: I searched on packages.ubuntu.com for firefox in dapper-backports, it says firefox2 is available
[08:50] <lupine_85> then add the repo and install it...
[08:51] <HuibertGill> lupine_85: I did, but only 1.5 is available......
[08:51] <dope> where can i d/l kubuntu really fast
[08:51] <lupine_85> !info firefox2 dapper
[08:51] <kgs> Hi.
[08:51] <ubotu> Package firefox2 does not exist in dapper
[08:51] <lupine_85> !info firefox dapper
[08:51] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.8-0ubuntu0.6.06 (dapper), package size 7746 kB, installed size 22952 kB
[08:51] <lupine_85> what it says
[08:51] <lupine_85> either it's available or it isn't
[08:52] <HuibertGill> lupine_85: ok.
[08:52] <HuibertGill> !backports
[08:52] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[08:53] <PeanutHorst> btw, anyone want to pacakge SXEmacs for Ubuntu 6.06LTS ?
[08:53] <PeanutHorst> :p
[08:53] <kgs> I am currently using ALSA for my sound card (by default, I suppose), but I want to get my machine to use Jack. How do I do this? Is it as simple as installing the Jack stuff with the package manager or will I have to screw with the kernel? My sound card is a "Creative SB Audigy".
[08:54] <PeanutHorst> why you'd want to use JAck i've no idea..
[08:55] <holycow> jack is required by ardour ... a really good multi track recorder
[08:55] <akerr0r> problem: i was trying to enable my 2nd monitor and somehow removed the gui login, even after restoring xorg.conf.. did i change something else by mistake?
[08:55] <holycow> you would instlal the jack server, start it up with jack control, then statup any apps requiring jack
[08:56] <holycow> however
[08:56] <jimbob> anyone know a good alternative to evolution, that also has a calendar
[08:56] <kgs> PeanutHorst: I need to use it so that I can use mixxx and be able to cue songs with my headphones. (Very important for DJ'ing)
[08:56] <holycow> you would need to close jack server and restart apps say like firefox for them to regain access to alsa
[08:56] <akerr0r> jimbob: mozilla has a calendar app out
[08:56] <PeanutHorst> kgs: if you use ubuntu for DJ'ing you're in the wrong profession
[08:56] <holycow> in upcoming versions i believe some low leve daemon is being written to proxy between all of these services or whatnot so the issue will dissapeaer
[08:56] <holycow> i hope that helps
[08:56] <PeanutHorst> use a dedicated sound deck
[08:56] <PeanutHorst> analogue for the win
[08:57] <jimbob> akerr0r: lightning on thunderbird isnt very well put together
[08:57] <holycow> jimbob, i really don't think there is anything out there like that
[08:57] <holycow> there is the mozilla calendar project deal, and maybe thunderbird that you can use separately
[08:57] <holycow> i don't know how good they are
[08:57] <holycow> thunderbird is excellent, i mean i don'tknow  how the moz calendar project is
[08:58] <kgs> PeanutHorst: I only DJ at home, for fun. (Most of the time at least) DJ'ing equipment is expensive, and I am a bit.. uh poor. You know?
[08:58] <PeanutHorst> kgs: ok i'll let you off on that :p
[08:58] <jimbob> i've found thunderbird to have a good spam filter since it learns as you go but, i want something more like outlook and evolution wont connect to my gmail account
[08:58] <holycow> evolution is it
[08:59] <PeanutHorst> but i personalyl made most of my hi-fi equipment myself
[08:59] <holycow> PeanutHorst, thats damned cool
[08:59] <HuibertGill> lupine_85: I found that the search option in packages.ubuntu.com for "dapper-backports" shows info for edgy, ... looks like a bug on the site
[08:59] <holycow> all tube amplifiers perhaps?
[08:59] <PeanutHorst> holycow: hell yeah :)
[08:59] <holycow> dude!
[08:59] <holycow> can i bug ya about a few questions?
[08:59] <holycow> on that topic i mean
[08:59] <kgs> PeanutHorst: You DJ?
[09:00] <PeanutHorst> i even rebuilt a AKAI AC-210 replacing all the dsp circuitry and amps with thermionic controls and tube amplification
[09:00] <kgs> :-)
[09:00] <elysium444> !nvidia
[09:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:00] <PeanutHorst> kgs: no, but i do listen to a wide variety of music.
[09:00] <PeanutHorst> holycow: sure
[09:00] <kgs> Okey dokey then.. I'm going to see if I can get this working then.
[09:00] <PeanutHorst> come to ##Socialites and ask away
[09:01] <PeanutHorst> that's my channel :)
[09:01] <holycow> ah cool
[09:01] <jimbob> i have a really stupid question but is there a folder set aside for media, kind of like the my docs in winblows?
[09:01] <Madpilot> jimbob, no, Ubuntu doesn't try to dictate where you put stuff.
[09:02] <Madpilot> that said, by default SoundJuicer will create a Music folder for the stuff it rips for you
[09:02] <lupine_85> jimbob: I use /media/shared :p
[09:02] <coolronson> hello
[09:02] <coolronson> hello
[09:03] <elysium444> !x
[09:03] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:03] <jimbob> is there a good guide for setting up a windows file server, that doesnt requite login using ubuntu
[09:04] <elysium444> !XvMCConfig
[09:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about XvMCConfig - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:04] <lynucs> !blender
[09:04] <ubotu> blender is a free application for 3D modelling, animation, rendering, etc. You can install it from Ubuntu's repositories, and tutorials are at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro
[09:05] <elysium444> Configuration file `/etc/X11/XvMCConfig'
[09:05] <elysium444>  ==> File on system created by you or by a script.
[09:05] <elysium444>  ==> File also in package provided by package maintainer.
[09:05] <elysium444>    What would you like to do about it ?  Your options are:
[09:05] <elysium444>     Y or I  : install the package maintainer's version
[09:05] <elysium444>     N or O  : keep your currently-installed version
[09:05] <elysium444>       D     : show the differences between the versions
[09:05] <elysium444>       Z     : background this process to examine the situation
[09:05] <elysium444>  The default action is to keep your current version.
[09:05] <elysium444> What is the best to do, I have put the XvMCConfig while reading hot to configure nvidia.... what should i do?
[09:05] <GiZiM> !apache
[09:05] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[09:06] <cherubiel> has anyone got the hda drives working properly ?
[09:06] <elysium444> What do you mean by hda?
[09:06] <scorp123> cherubiel: what's that supposed to mean? Obviously it's working here or I wouldn't be online ... LOL
[09:07] <jimbob> does that lamp guide have an edgy version
[09:07] <jacob> hello all,
[09:07] <Madpilot> jimbob, it won't have changed much between Dapper & Edgy
[09:07] <jacob> i was just wondering how i might get to runlevel 3
[09:07] <cherubiel> scorp123: hda = high definition audio
[09:08] <scorp123> cherubiel: aaaaaaaaah. I apologize.
[09:08] <elysium444> its the same as runlevel 2 under ubuntu
[09:08] <jacob> mmk
[09:08] <Madpilot> jimbob, if you mean the server cd stuff, there's now a seperate download
[09:08] <cherubiel> conexant id 5047
[09:08] <cherubiel> anyone?
[09:08] <lupine_85> but telinit 3
[09:08] <scorp123> cherubiel: /dev/hda is usually used for the first harddisk, hence the misunderstanding.
[09:08] <kaptengu> I know there is some command that enables recording of activity in terminal but can't remember what it was, anyone knows?
[09:08] <cherubiel> scorp123: :)
[09:08] <jacob> yeah, but telinit 3 (or 2) doesnt do anything, the X window system is still running
[09:09] <jimbob> I would like to have the computer i am on share all of my music with the windows network i am on
[09:09] <lupine_85> it does do something - it moves you to said runlevel
[09:09] <lupine_85> it's just that all the runlevels are the same
[09:09] <Trixsey> How do I change file owner?
[09:09] <Trixsey> o_O
[09:09] <lupine_85> customise them if you like :p
[09:09] <cherubiel> !samba | jimbob
[09:09] <ubotu> jimbob: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:09] <scorp123> jimbob: you don't need LAMP for that ... use SAMBA
[09:09] <lupine_85> Trixsey: chown user:group file
[09:10] <elysium444> you can shut the x by stoping gdm "/etc/init.d/gdm stop" I think is this
[09:10] <jacob> ooh.. so i have to customise my runlevel to allow networking, disable x window, etc.
[09:10] <jacob> oh ty
[09:10] <lupine_85> elysium444: you need to sudo it, but yeah
[09:10] <elysium444> yeah
[09:11] <elysium444> "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" this is it
[09:11] <elysium444> Configuration file `/etc/X11/XvMCConfig'
[09:11] <elysium444>  ==> File on system created by you or by a script.
[09:11] <elysium444>  ==> File also in package provided by package maintainer.
[09:11] <elysium444>    What would you like to do about it ?  Your options are:
[09:11] <elysium444>     Y or I  : install the package maintainer's version
[09:11] <elysium444>     N or O  : keep your currently-installed version
[09:11] <elysium444>       D     : show the differences between the versions
[09:11] <elysium444>       Z     : background this process to examine the situation
[09:11] <elysium444>  The default action is to keep your current version.
[09:11] <lupine_85> I
[09:11] <elysium444>  What is the best to do, I have put the XvMCConfig while reading hot to configure nvidia.... what should I do?
[09:11] <lupine_85> why not
[09:11] <elysium444> ok thanks
[09:11] <lupine_85> or make a back up just in case :p
[09:12] <brikka> anyone using ubuntu on an ibook?
[09:12] <elysium444> :)
[09:13] <robert_> is there a way I can make the system motd not be displayed for certain users?
[09:13] <brikka> is there an mac ubuntu support chat?
[09:14] <Trixsey> Hey guys, now I've changed so that my user and group has rwx and other have "---"... is this safe enough?
[09:14] <Trixsey> compared to 0777 I mean
[09:14] <elysium444> try the channel list
[09:15] <lupine_85> Trixsey: yeah
[09:15] <mohshami> hey guys, I just installed beryl, but new windows are not focused by default, where should I look?
[09:15] <lupine_85> pretty meaningless on a single-user system though
[09:15] <Trixsey> for me?
[09:15] <lupine_85> mohshami: FSP in general options
[09:15] <lupine_85> Trixsey: yes
[09:15] <Trixsey> lupine_85, someone told me to :(
[09:15] <lupine_85> change it to a lower version
[09:15] <Shocka311> Hey can anyone tell me how to find a new device on ubuntu? I just put in a new cdrom and I can't figure out how to get my system to recognize it.
[09:15] <lupine_85> Trixsey: it's nothing to worry about really
[09:15] <Trixsey> they were like omg 0777 is unsecure!
[09:15] <lupine_85> it is :
[09:15] <lupine_85> :p
[09:15] <Trixsey> is this just as bad? :(
[09:15] <lupine_85> but on a single-user system, who cares?
[09:16] <Trixsey> since the one who gets access most likely can get access to my user?
[09:16] <Trixsey> and run it anyway?
[09:16] <Trixsey> thats what you mean?
[09:16] <mohshami> lupine_85: thanks, it's working now ^_^
[09:16] <VMT2007> I can't seem to compile OpenChrome
[09:16] <VMT2007> and before you query the bot, I saw that page
[09:16] <mohshami> is it possible for beryl to run with icewm?
[09:17] <Shocka311> Anyone???
[09:17] <VMT2007> Shocka311: What is it?
[09:17] <elysium444> !beryl
[09:17] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[09:17] <Shocka311> What kind of cdrom?
[09:17] <VMT2007> Yes
[09:18] <mohshami> elysium444: thanks :)
[09:18] <Trixsey> lupine_85, you guys have any plans on extending Beryl? Adding trays and stuff? To some day compete against gnome/kde?
[09:18] <Shocka311> vmt2007: I have no idea.  I got it from my brother used cause the one I had is way slow.
[09:19] <lupine_85> Trixsey: DE functionality is being proposed all the time
[09:19] <VMT2007> Shocka311: and it isn't recognized as /dev/hdc or /dev/hdc1 or anything?
[09:19] <lupine_85> "after 0.2" is when we start thinking about that sort of thing :p
[09:19] <VMT2007> wait a minute, what the hell am I saying
[09:19] <VMT2007> one second
[09:19] <lupine_85> beryl should always be DE-independent though, in the end
[09:20] <NetGuardian> good morning :
[09:20] <robert_> is there a way I can make the system motd not be displayed for certain users?
[09:20] <VMT2007> why the hell does debian/ubuntu sort CD drives as /dev/hdx
[09:20] <Shocka311> vmt2007: not that I can tell
[09:20] <VMT2007> meh
[09:20] <VMT2007> have you attempted to mount it
[09:20] <VMT2007> wait
[09:20] <smithveg> hmm... how can i see the ascii code in messenger? I receive a message 'press alt then 20048 then release alt
[09:21] <elysium444> !xgl
[09:21] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:21] <Trixsey> lupine_85, if I went over to beryl as WM.. would I still have to use XGL? :(
[09:21] <Shocka311> vmt2007: you mean plug it in and everything ?
[09:21] <VMT2007> Shocka311: no, mount it to a mount point
[09:21] <VMT2007> like /media/cdrecorder or /media/cdrom
[09:22] <lupine_85> Trixsey: if you're using fglrx, then yes
[09:22] <Shocka311> vmt2007: I don't know how to do that.  I'm way new at linux.  I'm used to windows.
[09:22] <Shocka311> vmt2007: do I do that in terminal?
[09:23] <VMT2007> alright
[09:23] <VMT2007> sudo lshw
[09:23] <VMT2007> put it on pastebin
[09:23] <sushi> !nvidia
[09:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:24] <Shocka311> vmt2007 Pastebin? whats that?
[09:24] <VMT2007> !pastebin | Shocka311
[09:24] <ubotu> Shocka311: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:24] <robert_> can anybody help me with my issue?
[09:24] <VMT2007> robert_: ?
[09:24] <Shocka311> ah.
[09:24] <robert_> --> is there a way I can make the system motd not be displayed for certain users?
[09:25] <VMT2007> one second
[09:25] <robert_> k
[09:25] <Shocka311> so anyway, how do I get my system to recognize my new cdrom?
[09:25] <VMT2007> do this
[09:25] <VMT2007> sudo lshw
[09:25] <VMT2007> paste the output to pastebin
[09:25] <VMT2007> and give me the URL
[09:26] <robert_> what about me? lol
[09:27] <VMT2007> i'm trying to look through some material
[09:27] <jimbob> samba has me utterly confused
[09:27] <robert_> ah k
[09:28] <Shocka311> VMT2007: are you talking to me or someone els?
[09:28] <VMT2007> someone else
[09:28] <VMT2007> Shocka311: go to the terminal
[09:29] <VMT2007> type sudo lshw
[09:29] <VMT2007> it'll prompt you for your password, put it in
[09:29] <VMT2007> paste the results to pastebin
[09:29] <VMT2007> and give me the URL
[09:30] <jimbob> has anyone set up a simple no login required, fileshare that windows users can acces?
[09:30] <VMT2007> robert_: I'm honestly unsure of how to do that
[09:30] <Shocka311> VMT2007 ok how do I use pastebin?
[09:31] <robert_> hm'
[09:31] <robert_> ok
[09:31] <VMT2007> !pastebin | Shocka311
[09:31] <ubotu> Shocka311: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:31] <VMT2007> of course what you could do is
[09:31] <VMT2007> make an exclusive MOTD
[09:31] <scorp123> robert__: you can disable the system-wide "motd" and then you could put a "motd" into each user's
[09:31] <scorp123> home
[09:31] <VMT2007> well besides that
[09:31] <VMT2007> make a special MOTD in /etc
[09:31] <robert_> true
[09:32] <robert_> oooh
[09:32] <VMT2007> and put this line in each user's .bash_profile
[09:32] <VMT2007> or .tcshrc or whatever you like
[09:32] <robert_> symlink everybody's .profile to /etc/profile
[09:32] <robert_> and cat the motd there
[09:32] <Shocka311> VMT2007: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38334/
[09:33] <VMT2007> [ -x /etc/specialmotd ]  && cat /etc/specialmotd
[09:33] <VMT2007> put that in each user's .profile
[09:33] <VMT2007> don't symlink anything though
[09:33] <VMT2007> if that special MOTD has anything compromising in it
[09:33] <VMT2007> you could chown it to a special group that all the users in questions belong to
[09:33] <VMT2007> and set its permissions accordingly
[09:34] <VMT2007> although I don't see why you'd want to use an MOTD to give people such sensitive information
[09:34] <VMT2007> when you could e-mail it to them
[09:34] <jimbob> how would i find out what kind of wireless card is in my laptop, in case i deside to load ubuntu on it
[09:35] <VMT2007> Shocka311: seems it didn't find your drive at all
[09:35] <VMT2007> if you don't know the make and model of the drive, then it's pretty much useless
[09:35] <VMT2007> jimbob: google its specs
[09:35] <VMT2007> if not, just check the device manager
[09:35] <VMT2007> is it running windows?
[09:36] <Shocka311> VMT2007: thats what I thought. is there any way I can search for it manually?
[09:36] <VMT2007> Shocka311: not really
[09:36] <VMT2007> if lshw doesn't even give a hint about it
[09:36] <jimbob> what am i looking for in the specs, to know which kind of driverit would take
[09:36] <VMT2007> you could pull it out and look at the label
[09:36] <VMT2007> well
[09:36] <VMT2007> the manufacturer and model of the device
[09:36] <Madpilot> !enter |  VMT2007
[09:36] <ubotu> VMT2007: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:36] <VMT2007> Madpilot: I've always had a tendency to do that, sorry
[09:37] <Shocka311> VMT2007: I do have all of that.
[09:37] <VMT2007> Oh?
[09:37] <VMT2007> You have it on hand?
[09:37] <Shocka311> Yes
[09:37] <VMT2007> what is it?
[09:38] <elysium444> I removed the windows completely from my pc, Ubuntu Rocks!!!!!!!Debian too...
[09:38] <Shocka311> The manufacturer is "afreey" and the moddle number is cd-1845e/a
[09:39] <VMT2007> Shocka311: I hate, HATE asking this to people since I don't like to appear condescending, but did you install the device properly?
[09:39] <VMT2007> And check the jumper setting?
[09:39] <dope> is it better to format and install kubuntu from ubuntu or just upgrade from ubuntu to kubuntu getting the kubuntu-desktop whatever thing?
[09:39] <VMT2007> dope: good question
[09:39] <dope> VMT2007: thanks
[09:40] <VMT2007> the latter probably works
[09:40] <VMT2007> although I don't see why in the world you'd want to use KDE
[09:40] <VMT2007> >_>
[09:40] <kaptengu> anybody knows how to "record" what you write in terminal?
[09:40] <VMT2007> kaptengu: it already is
[09:40] <VMT2007> .bash_history in your home folder
[09:40] <VMT2007> big brother's watching, man
[09:40] <Shocka311> VMT2007: i'm quite sure I did although I don't know too much about computers.  On windows you just plug it all in and you can search for the device or it just recognizes there is a new one
[09:40] <lupine_85> .bash-history IIRC
[09:40] <VMT2007> big brother, aka root.
[09:40] <kaptengu> great thx =)
[09:40] <dope> what's wrong with KDE?
[09:40] <ithiel> hello all
[09:41] <Lynoure> dope: both work, "better" depend on how much hassle setting things up after reinstalling would be for you and whether you plan to use gnome at all anymore
[09:41] <VMT2007> KDE is bloated
[09:41] <dope> it looks nicer
[09:41] <Shocka311> How do I check the jumper setting
[09:41] <kotaro_kuroudo>  wah
[09:41] <VMT2007> prettiness isn't a factor
[09:41] <dope> it makes me happy
[09:41] <ithiel> to be perfectly honest, KDE takes after Win32 designs (kinda), and Gnome takes after mac'ish designs (kinda)
[09:41] <VMT2007> GNOME can be enhanced into pure eye candy, as is this case: http://images.victorminator.net/pimpness.png
[09:41] <Lynoure> Configurability however is :)
[09:41] <ithiel> KDE has more features/options and configurability, Gnome is just plain simpler and easier to use
[09:41] <ithiel> I use neither, and roll fluxbox.
[09:42] <ithiel> or, when it's relevant, bb4win.
[09:42] <ithiel> lol
[09:42] <dope> that doesn't look as nice as kde
[09:42] <VMT2007> that's just mild though
[09:42] <VMT2007> some people have CRAZY GNOME desktops
[09:42] <dope> beryl would be nice but i can't ever get it to work correctly
[09:42] <dope> or compiz
[09:42] <dope> bunch of fubar
[09:43] <Shocka311> VMT2007: How do I check the jumper setting?
[09:43] <VMT2007> beryl looks terrible and bloated
[09:43] <bXi> man
[09:44] <bXi> openoffice is quite buggy :(
[09:44] <VMT2007> Shocka311: you'd want to turn your system off
[09:44] <lupine_85> VMT2007: turn as much of the bloat off as you like :p
[09:44] <VMT2007> in this case I recommend you ask someone else about CD drive jumpers
[09:44] <bXi> or dont use beryl at all
[09:44] <lupine_85>  /openoffice/ is bloated
[09:44] <lupine_85> and it doesn't even have half the features I need :(
[09:44] <VMT2007> man
[09:44] <VMT2007> I'm happy with metacity and gnome.
[09:44] <un_operateur> Has anyone here come across a failure at boot due to an error like this -- [ xxx.xxxxxx]  hda: ERROR, PORTS ALREADY IN USE
[09:44] <lupine_85> nah, I like the usability improvements :p
[09:45] <un_operateur> ?
[09:45] <bXi> my open office is messed up
[09:45] <lupine_85> like hardware zoom, negatives etc
[09:45] <VMT2007> yeah
[09:45] <bXi> i click an image in a document and it crashes
[09:45] <bXi> every single time
[09:45] <VMT2007> apart from the intensive CPU use
[09:45] <VMT2007> it's nice.
[09:45] <VMT2007> I don't have a 7900GTX,sorry
[09:45] <VMT2007> that'd kill my video card
[09:45] <Shocka311> VMT2007: if I have a cdrom that is compatable with linux will it recognize it automatically or will I have to install it manually?
[09:45] <lupine_85> I know - beryl uses like 3% cpu :( on my 5500fx
[09:46] <lupine_85> (sempron2500+)
[09:46] <bXi> some time ago xgl used 1% cpu on my ati 9200 SE
[09:46] <ithiel> w00t, lappy with a Radeon 9000...drivers are FUN
[09:46] <ithiel> (growls)
[09:46] <VMT2007> Shocka311: it should just recognize it on boot
[09:46] <lupine_85> amarok eats ~20% at times
[09:47] <lupine_85> and it's arguably more pointless :p
[09:47] <VMT2007> lupine_85: I have a GeForce FX 5200
[09:47] <VMT2007> Athlon XP 2800+
[09:47] <Shocka311> K, i'll mess around with it. thanks
[09:47] <bXi> VMT2007: thats quite similar to my last pc
[09:47] <VMT2007> gee thanks
[09:47] <lupine_85> VMT2007: that's plenty :p
[09:48] <VMT2007> "my last (piece of crap)"
[09:48] <bXi> not really
[09:48] <lupine_85> what else are you using it for on the desktop?
[09:48] <bXi> i got lucky with a free upgrade
[09:48] <bXi> or else i'd still have that
[09:48] <bXi> amd 64 3000+ with ati x1600xt now
[09:48] <VMT2007> gdesklets likes to use up 60% of my damn CPU
[09:48] <VMT2007> I hate python
[09:49] <VMT2007> I don't like such fanciness
[09:49] <un_operateur> use adesklets instead -- much lighter
[09:49] <VMT2007> written in python?
[09:49] <un_operateur> errm, yes
[09:50] <VMT2007> aka, "I don't want to use a real programming language."
[09:50] <un_operateur> he he
[09:50] <VMT2007> same with java applications
[09:50] <VMT2007> limewire...
[09:51] <bXi> perl or C++ here
[09:51] <un_operateur> python constitutes for more than 80% of Gtk/Qt applications out there now -- so many people like it
[09:51] <bXi> perl for easy stuff
[09:51] <exs> is ther *any* distribution (perhaps ubuntu based) that contains propeitary drivers for ati and nvidia?..
[09:51] <VMT2007> I don't trust any programming language named after a damn snake
[09:51] <touch> Can someone tell me how I could convince this driver to compile under Edgy? I need it to activate my hardware, but it's for the wrong Xorg version
[09:52] <touch> http://www.softcoded.net/eduard/elousb.html
[09:52] <VMT2007> exs: most distributions will not include non-free software with them
[09:52] <trinkolade> but freespire does as far as I know
[09:52] <VMT2007> except commercial distributions like Xandros and Linspire
[09:52] <un_operateur> exs --- aptitude search "ati|nvidia|linux-restricted-modules"
[09:52] <VMT2007> which probably don't come with those drivers out of the box
[09:52] <bXi> exs: whats the problem with installing it yourself?
[09:53] <exs> bXi:  because I'm using the live cd.
[09:53] <exs> i can't install linux on here, but i want to test xgl/compiz
[09:53] <VMT2007> hmm
[09:53] <newman> exs, google sabayon linux
[09:53] <exs> newman:  Tried and tested, it doesn't work
[09:53] <newman> exs, ah, sorry man
[09:53] <VMT2007> you could use a pen drive linux
[09:53] <VMT2007> :P
[09:53] <exs> newmen I don't know what happened, i was led to believe sabayon uses ati / nvidia out of the box but it's a lie
[09:54] <exs> VMT2007:  where can i find one of those
[09:54] <VMT2007> exs: I have slax on a pen drive
[09:54] <un_operateur> !ati
[09:54] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:54] <un_operateur> ha ha
[09:54] <newman> exs, I have used it before and I was able to use the ATI drivers out of box
[09:54] <touch> Well.. as long as we're asking, any distributions that come with built in support for touchscreens that connect via USB? Ubuntu has been a savior to me for the most part, but when it comes to touching, it's the the devil.
[09:54] <exs> newman:  How?.. i booted it up on this laptop (ATI) no spinning cube at all
[09:55] <un_operateur> exs, not everything you own is going to be supported by linux (even windows for that matter) .. so you do need to install drivers apres-install
[09:55] <VMT2007> I hate live linuxes anyway
[09:55] <VMT2007> un_operateur:
[09:55] <VMT2007> you are wrong
[09:55] <newman> exs, did you happen to check which driver it was operating on?
[09:55] <un_operateur> VMT2007: yea?? explain
[09:55] <VMT2007> Linux supports EVERYTHING, my friend.
[09:56] <un_operateur> VMT2007: right
[09:56] <VMT2007> my box controls my car
[09:56] <touch> VMT2007: tell that to my touchscreen.
[09:56] <exs> newman:  no
[09:56] <VMT2007> forget your touchscreen linux toasts my bread in the morning and brews my coffee
[09:56] <VMT2007> or not
[09:57] <VMT2007> meh
[09:57] <exs> guys, if I downloaded feisty (alpha) now, is it going to have the precompiled (and out of box) gfx drivers for ati + nvdidia?.. or have we not got that far into development yet?
[09:57] <un_operateur> exs, have you been here at all?? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:57] <newman> exs, well I don't remember the specifics but I think when it starts up it has a wizard to set up 3d acceleration (if possible) and make sure you do that and then select XGL or AIGLX for desktop acceleration, if that is what you are looking for
[09:57] <VMT2007> i'm kidding but I do want to try and make my aircon controlled by a computer
[09:58] <newman> exs, if it doesn't allow that option then I'm not sure about the problem as it would take a little more investigation
[09:58] <exs> newman:  hopefully i'll find the cd again, thanks for your help
[09:58] <un_operateur> exs, ATI and NVidia are restricted kernel drivers/modules -- ubuntu will probably never include them by default
[09:58] <VMT2007> the same computer that controls the coffeemaker, lights, etc.
[09:58] <newman> exs, no problem, good luck
[09:58] <newman> exs, also try to make sure to use the current version
[09:58] <VMT2007> ubuntu needs to include openchrome damn it
[09:58] <VMT2007> I can't get the damn thing to compile
[09:58] <exs> un_operateur:  false, ubuntu is going to have those drivers in the next release, where have you been living for the past 5 years?
[09:58] <touch> That's what I'm trying to get mine to do, but with music and a jukebox, hence the need for a touchscreen
[09:59] <VMT2007> lie
[09:59] <touch> ex\, try cranking up Automatix.. it installed my nVidia pretty well
[09:59] <VMT2007> Ubuntu only includes free software
[09:59] <Trixsey> What's new in feisty (compared to edgy)?
[09:59] <VMT2007> non-free software must be obtained by other means
[09:59] <un_operateur> exs, suit yourself dude -- you seem to know a lot more about ubuntu than i do and yet you can't get your drivers installed
[09:59] <exs> VMT2007:  again, false, it contains propretary modem drivers for example
[09:59] <VMT2007> includes?
[10:00] <exs> un_operateur:  ill show you the wiki page
[10:00] <VMT2007> in the distribution?
[10:00] <VMT2007> I really don't think so
[10:00] <un_operateur> exs -- just read this page
[10:00] <touch> exs: Fighting never gets you anything. Try Automatix for ati.
[10:00] <un_operateur> !ati | exs
[10:00] <ubotu> exs: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:00] <exs> touch:  not fighting, im just telling this guy
[10:00] <exs> ubotu:  ok thanks
[10:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok thanks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:01] <Trixsey> why doesn't the video driver fall back to MESA or some other halfassed shit when it lacks drivers?
[10:01] <un_operateur> lol at him talking to the bot
[10:01] <Trixsey> if you run an ATI/nVidia card you get fucked until you can get into console and install drivers
[10:01] <VMT2007> Trixsey: you're using the drivers downloaded from nvidia's site?
[10:01] <Trixsey> I use drivers from ATIs homepages :)
[10:01] <exs> un_operateur:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverEducation
[10:01] <touch> \
[10:01] <VMT2007> oh.
[10:01] <un_operateur> Trixsey: its the same reason windows drops you into a generic low-resolution driver until you get the right drivers installed
[10:01] <Trixsey> why?
[10:02] <VMT2007> Why in the world would you do that
[10:02] <exs> "We are installing non-Free drivers by default"
[10:02] <touch> Well.. if anyone happens to know a programmer with some spare time, I could use their help upgrading a driver from Dapper to Edgy
[10:02] <Trixsey> un_operateur, yeah but windows DOES drop me into some low-res driver.. while ubuntu leaves me with nothing.. a fresh install Ubuntu edgy and I aint got anything visual
[10:02] <Trixsey> need to install drivers from console mode
[10:02] <exs> un_operateur:  "As long as Ubuntu does ship proprietary drivers in the short term, we should take steps to improve the situation in the long term. We believe the best way to do this is to convey the problem to people using Ubuntu  explaining why we distribute non-Free drivers at all, what the risks are, and what people can do to avoid such hardware in future."
[10:04] <VMT2007> know what I say?
[10:04] <VMT2007> stop whining, your dad used a CLI. :P
[10:04] <un_operateur> exs, I guess ubuntu ought to start installing all restricted functionality too then -- because that goes against what they stand for -- it doesnt include mp3 support for the same reasons it doesnt include the restricted modules
[10:04] <sc4ttrbrain> pdiddy_79: konbanwa :D
[10:04] <VMT2007> but in all honesty
[10:04] <bXi> Trixsey: its weird that ubuntu default leaves you with no screen
[10:04] <bXi> i've never seen that
[10:04] <VMT2007> it should load vesa by default
[10:05] <exs> un_operateur:  I don't make the rules, but I am not going to stand by and let you tell me what I'm saying is wrong, because it's already planned for, and you should of known it by now, it's been big news.
[10:05] <Trixsey> bXi, oh it's supposed to fall back to some crappy driver? it didn't in my case.. which is why I was wondering :P
[10:05] <VMT2007> un_operateur: mp3 support is a legality concern
[10:05] <bXi> normally you'd get the radeon or nv drivers
[10:06] <VMT2007> as is libdvdcss and such
[10:06] <bXi> or vesa if you have something else
[10:06] <un_operateur> exs, as i already said -- you either get the drivers working now manually or wait however long it takes -- just stop cribbing
[10:06] <VMT2007> but ubuntu is targeted at people with little proficiency in Linux
[10:07] <VMT2007> expecting people to know what packages to install to get their hardware to work is really just not the way to do it
[10:07] <pdiddy_79> sc4ttrbrain: sorry, what do you mean?
[10:07] <bXi> thats why there is proper documentation on this
[10:07] <Trixsey> konbanwa is jap for good evening, no?
[10:07] <sc4ttrbrain> nah,nothing u must be from japan?
[10:08] <sc4ttrbrain> !nfs
[10:08] <Trixsey> I'm not -_-
[10:08] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[10:08] <Trixsey> Konbanwa means 'Good Evening'
[10:08] <sc4ttrbrain> Trixsey: no,imean pdiddy_79
[10:08] <Trixsey> yeah I'm right :)
[10:09] <Trixsey> how can he be jap?
[10:09] <Trixsey> he didn't even know basic stuff :P
[10:09] <sc4ttrbrain> Trixsey: whois :p
[10:09] <Trixsey> ohh
[10:09] <Jordan_U> When I try to hybernate I get an error that I don't have enough memory.
[10:10] <Trixsey> he is an imposter :P
[10:10] <VMT2007> could be a proxy
[10:10] <VMT2007> or shell
[10:10] <sc4ttrbrain> Trixsey: lol,lots o foreigner here dont speak jap
[10:10] <dobblego> what's the link for the latest upgrade problem?
[10:10] <Jordan_U>  What is the latest upgrade problem?
[10:11] <Trixsey> well that's kaijin noobs!
[10:11] <dobblego> /var/cache/apt/archives/openoffice.org-common_2.0.4-0ubuntu4_all.deb
[10:11] <dobblego> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[10:11] <sc4ttrbrain> its a `g`aijin
[10:11] <un_operateur> !paste | dobblego -- please paste the entire contents here
[10:11] <ubotu> dobblego -- please paste the entire contents here: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:11] <Trixsey> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaijin
[10:11] <Jordan_U> dobblego: Have you tried running "sudo apt-get -f install" ?
[10:12] <dobblego> you mean upgrade? yes
[10:12] <Trixsey> is worse :D
[10:12] <un_operateur> dobblego: that doesnt do an upgrade
[10:12] <dcordes> is there a way to setup openssh-server without the necessity to forward a port in a router (it's a common device like the ones you get from your isp)
[10:12] <VMT2007> !offtopic
[10:12] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:12] <dobblego> http://rafb.net/p/9jAraN89.html
[10:12] <dcordes> ?
[10:12] <un_operateur> dobblego: it just resolves unsettled dependancies
[10:12] <Jordan_U> dobblego: No, I mean try exactly : "sudo apt-get -f install" ?
[10:12] <sc4ttrbrain> d*mn offtopic ,lol
[10:12] <Trixsey> lolz :(
[10:12] <dobblego> no I haven't - I will
[10:12] <dobblego> I did, same problem
[10:12] <touch> Hmm.. using Bus 001 Device 006: ID 1391:1000, if I were trying to tell xorg.conf where the device was.. would it be /dev/event6?
[10:13] <VMT2007> dcordes: sure, don't use port 22
[10:13] <VMT2007> you need to map ports if you want outsiders to access it
[10:13] <rausb0> VMT2007: i guess the problem is that dcordes machine is behind a nat gateway
[10:13] <dcordes> VMT2007: you know... i can't really access the router config. are there any ports that are open from scratch i could use?
[10:13] <dobblego> http://rafb.net/p/9jAraN89.html is the error
[10:13] <un_operateur> dobblego: try  -- sudo dpkg --remove openoffice.org-common
[10:14] <VMT2007> dcordes: probably not
[10:14] <VMT2007> ask your network administrator
[10:14] <dcordes> my admin is a bummer
[10:14] <dobblego> un_operateur, dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of openoffice.org-common:
[10:14] <dcordes> i really need to setup this server
[10:14] <un_operateur> dobblego: pastebin what you see
[10:14] <VMT2007> lol
[10:14] <rausb0> dcordes: if you have a ssh account on a machine allowing ssh port forwarding, you could use that
[10:15] <VMT2007> finishing work from home? :P
[10:15] <touch> Wow.. linux's list of USB port assignments is about as clear as mud
[10:15] <dobblego> un_operateur, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38343/
[10:15] <dcordes> rausb0: i didn't really get that... you mean using the syerver i am speaking of as a client?
[10:15] <rausb0> dcordes: that ssh account must be on a machine you can access from the internet
[10:15] <rohan> my acer travel mate 3260 has an intel GMA 950 card. however, ubuntu gives max resolution of 1924x768 only. how do i increase it ?
[10:16] <VMT2007> yeah you ssh to that machine
[10:16] <VMT2007> and ssh to the machine in the intranet
[10:16] <dcordes> rausb0: the thing is, i want to maintain this compiter from remote
[10:16] <sushi_> !quit
[10:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about quit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:16] <Jordan_U> !fixres | rohan
[10:16] <ubotu> rohan: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:16] <dcordes> rausb0: also when nobodie's at home there
[10:16] <rausb0> dcordes: yeah i know that
[10:16] <sc4ttrbrain> !suspend
[10:16] <sushi_> How do I quit the X server withouot rebooting
[10:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about suspend - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:16] <dcordes> rausb0: so is there a way to let the client ssh to me automatically?
[10:16] <lupine_85> sushi_: ctrl+alt+bkspace
[10:16] <VMT2007> sushi_: ctrl alt backspace
[10:16] <touch> ctl alt backspace sushi_
[10:16] <sushi_> that brings me to the gdm
[10:17] <VMT2007> yeah
[10:17] <VMT2007> that restarts the x server
[10:17] <lupine_85> to quit: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop
[10:17] <sushi_> ok but i want to quit the x server not restart it
[10:17] <rausb0> dcordes: you would set up the machine behind the nat router to ssh into your ssh account on the internet machine, using remote port forwarding back to its own ssh server.
[10:17] <VMT2007> now if you mean going to a command line
[10:17] <un_operateur> dobblego: try removing those packages too -- sudo dpkg --remove openoffice.org-common openoffice.org-common openoffice.org-common
[10:17] <VMT2007> ctrl alt f1
[10:17] <VMT2007> to go back
[10:17] <VMT2007> ctrl alt f7 i believe
[10:17] <VMT2007> it's f7 for me.
[10:17] <rausb0> dcordes: then you can log in on the internet machine and use the remote forwarded port to ssh to the machine behind the nat router.
[10:17] <sushi_> I'm trying to install my video drivers, the README says to quit the x server completely before doiong thi
[10:18] <VMT2007> ooh
[10:18] <dcordes> rausb0: but to initiate that process i would need somebody on the 'nat-box' to start the connection right?
[10:18] <VMT2007> !x
[10:18] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:18] <Jordan_U> un_operateur: Why not just use apt-get remove instead of dpkg directly ?
[10:18] <VMT2007> oh
[10:18] <VMT2007> well
[10:18] <VMT2007> stop not restart
[10:18] <VMT2007> you get the picture
[10:18] <sushi_> right
[10:18] <dobblego> un_operateur, do you mean openoffice.org-core and openoffice.org-java-common ?
[10:18] <sushi_> thanks
[10:18] <un_operateur> dobblego: aye, yes
[10:18] <PeanutHorst> salut un_operateur
[10:18] <rausb0> dcordes: you can use autossh to have a persistent ssh connection from the machine behind the nat gateway to the internet machine
[10:18] <dcordes> rausb0: hold on i am afk for a sec
[10:18] <un_operateur> Jordan_U: trying to home in on an error
[10:18] <dobblego> I can't; there's a bunch of stuff depending on openoffice.org-core
[10:18] <un_operateur> PeanutHorst: salut :)
[10:19] <PeanutHorst> permettez-moi vous assiste?
[10:19] <PeanutHorst> assister *
[10:19] <elysium444>  I installed xserver-xgl add the server lines to this file: gdm.conf-custom, then i installed compiz and compiz-gnome. after I did this "compiz --replace gconf &" borders disappear. What I am doing wrong??  I am using ubuntu 10.6
[10:19] <sushi_> elysium444 that's as far as I got with it too
[10:19] <un_operateur> dobblego: ok -- forget that then -- do this -- sudo dpkg --remove --force-all openoffice.org-common
[10:20] <VMT2007> i'm going to bed
[10:20] <VMT2007> peace out all
[10:20] <dobblego> un_operateur, that failed...
[10:20] <un_operateur> PeanutHorst: Je ne suis pas francais .. mais mon nom est francais :p
[10:20] <un_operateur> !fr | PeanutHorst
[10:20] <ubotu> PeanutHorst: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:20] <dobblego> un_operateur, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38344/
[10:20] <PeanutHorst> this stupid thing uis not going past "Keytboard Layout" - i've selected it and hit enter, and it's just doing nothg,m and occasionalyl spinning up the Cd drive... it's been doing this for 2 hours now
[10:21] <un_operateur> dobblego: errm, it says the package has been removed -- try the same command again
[10:21] <Jordan_U> elysium444: what card do you have?
[10:21] <elysium444> sushi_:did you edit gdm.conf-custom? maybe we have to edit gdm.conf??
[10:21] <lostoner> Can someone explain to me how to tell what hardware address my device is plugged into via USB? Like /dev/input/whatever
[10:21] <VMT2007> man how do you change the console font
[10:21] <VMT2007> not the xterm/gnome term font
[10:21] <dobblego> un_operateur, ok, my mistake - done
[10:21] <VMT2007> the CLI mode font
[10:22] <PeanutHorst> un_operateur: je n'aussi pas francais, mais je parles francais - votre nom me revener
[10:22] <elysium444> I forgot what card I got how do I check under ubuntu 10.6?
[10:22] <PeanutHorst> i'm half english and half german actually, but i speak french.
[10:22] <Jordan_U> elysium444: lspci
[10:22] <PeanutHorst> i believed you to be a) french and b) in neexd of assistance
[10:23] <dobblego> un_operateur, do I somehow reinstall openoffice.org-common?
[10:23] <un_operateur> PeanutHorst: I'm english and speak very little french :p
[10:23] <un_operateur> dobblego: aye, yep -- you should be able to continue with what you were originally doing
[10:23] <elysium444> nVidia Corporation CK804 Memory Controller ???
[10:24] <dobblego> un_operateur, I can't perform an upgrade because there are unmet dependencies
[10:24] <Twinxor_> where the heck do I GET EasyUbuntu
[10:24] <Twinxor_> http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html
[10:24] <Twinxor_> no download link!
[10:24] <jacob> hello, i was wondering how i can (temporarily) turn off my x window system (for driver installation)
[10:24] <PeanutHorst> un_operateur: oh sodding oath old chap, i thought you were french.. never occured to me tocheck your hostmask
[10:24] <PeanutHorst> :p
[10:24] <un_operateur> dobblego: errm, ok, install the latest  openoffice.org-common --- sudo aptitude install  openoffice.org-common
[10:25] <Twinxor_> jacob: that wouldn't be necessary for driver installation
[10:25] <jacob> nvidia
[10:25] <un_operateur> PeanutHorst: well, derrrr !! :d
[10:25] <Gosha> !swf
[10:25] <Jordan_U> dobblego: If you just want to remove OO.org you can run sudo apt-get autoremove openoffice.org
[10:25] <linkrjh> Is there a way to clear cache/history/temp/everything in 1 go?  Like a program or something?
[10:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:25] <Twinxor_> !easyubuntu
[10:25] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[10:25] <Jordan_U> !flash | Gosha
[10:25] <ubotu> Gosha: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:25] <dobblego> Jordan_U, I didn't ever want to do that; but I can't anyway - ubuntu-desktop requires it
[10:25] <trinkolade> jacob, you have to delete it from your runlevel
[10:25] <kvossen> My laptop's native resolution of 1400x1050 is not present in the bios, so I installed 915resolution to fix things. Unfortunately, X still refuses to use the correct resolution, saying " Not using mode "1400x1050" (no mode of this name)". Any suggestions? By the way, when I still used 855resolution things did work.
[10:25] <un_operateur> dobblego: do or dont you want openoffice installed?
[10:26] <dobblego> un_operateur, I do; all I did was an apt-get upgrade
[10:26] <Jordan_U> !ubuntu-desktop | dobblego
[10:26] <ubotu> dobblego: k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[10:26] <un_operateur> dobblego: well, sort this dependency problem out first and then carry on to complete the upgrade
[10:26] <jacob> i tried removing gdm from runlevel 3, however i wasnt able to use the shell correctly
[10:27] <un_operateur> jacob, explain
[10:27] <jacob> i renamed S13gdm
[10:27] <un_operateur> PeanutHorst: were you asking me if i were in need of assistance ?
[10:27] <jacob> to K87GDM
[10:27] <PeanutHorst> un_operateur: yes
[10:27] <dcordes> rausb0: still around?
[10:27] <jacob> and when i went to runlevel three, the shell.. would accept input?
[10:27] <FluxTendu> hi
[10:27] <dobblego> the upgrade to openoffice.org-common is corrupt is the problem; how do I revert back?
[10:27] <jacob> ill try it agin and note what happens if you want
[10:28] <PeanutHorst> un_operateur: but in all honesty, i probably require more assistance 0- you see i'm used to installers for linuix that a) actively require user guidance and b) work
[10:28] <un_operateur> PeanutHorst: I am yes -- I cant boot ubuntu anymore -- got this boot error -- [####.####]  hdb : ERROR, PORTS ALREADY IN USE! :(
[10:28] <Jordan_U> dobblego: Why do you assume that it is corrupt?
[10:28] <PeanutHorst> tried reinstalling the bootloader from a livecd?
[10:28] <dobblego> because it fails every time I try to install it
[10:28] <elysium444>  Jordan_U: this is it: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0392 . How can it be I installed nvidia drivers
[10:28] <dobblego> short read in buffer_copy (backend dpkg-deb during `./usr/lib/openoffice/share/xslt/import/wordml/wordml2ooo_field.xsl')
[10:28] <un_operateur> dobblego: this should sort you out -- sudo aptitude install  openoffice.org-common
[10:28] <dobblego> un_operateur, it fails
[10:29] <Jordan_U> !nvidia | elysium444
[10:29] <ubotu> elysium444: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:29] <un_operateur> dobblego: eh strange, pastebin the results please
[10:29] <FluxTendu> i have a problem with edgy 64 and somes wmp (most are readable with vlc, but somes only have sound)
[10:29] <rausb0> dcordes: yeah
[10:29] <dobblego> un_operateur, on the way
[10:29] <Jordan_U> elysium444: BUT, if you are running 6.10 I actually recommend you use the Beta drivers instead and don't use XGL.
[10:29] <rausb0> dcordes: i am drawing a little ascii gfx for you
[10:29] <ath0> rausb0: really?
[10:30] <un_operateur> PeanutHorst: errm, I'm waiting out for a few hours to see if anyone has the same issue -- the forums have a few people with the problem over the last two days -- so it seems like its a recent kernel issue or something
[10:30] <FluxTendu> i have try to use mplayer 32 bits, but i have an incompatibility with an openoffice lib
[10:30] <dobblego> un_operateur, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38348/
[10:30] <w180> hi
[10:30] <Jordan_U> !hi | w180
[10:30] <ubotu> w180: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[10:30] <w180> :)
[10:31] <exst> how do i install firefox on kubuntu?
[10:31] <Shi> urg
[10:31] <ath0> rausb0: i have to quit in a few. you want any address so we can stay in touch?
[10:31] <ath0> like icq
[10:31] <Shi> exst : apt-get intall firefox
[10:31] <Shi> or use synqptics
[10:31] <exst> Shi:  from terminal?
[10:31] <Shi> yep
[10:31] <raxip> hello
[10:31] <rausb0> ath0 == dcordes?
[10:31] <exst> Shi:  kubuntu dos not have synaptics
[10:31] <Jordan_U> exst: It should come by default, if not use the package manager
[10:31] <ath0> rausb0: yea
[10:32] <Jordan_U> !synaptic | exst
[10:32] <ubotu> exst: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[10:32] <rausb0> ath0: oh, okay. but i have no icq or any other IM
[10:32] <Shi> you'll have to do sudo apt-get install firefox from terminal, unless you've already created a password for user root
[10:32] <un_operateur> dobblego: I see you trying to manually install a file from /var/cache/apt/archives .. in the second command -- are you sure that is the latest version of openoffice??
[10:32] <ath0> rausb0: what about email?
[10:32] <raxip> good
[10:32] <Shi> ow, sorry, thought it was like ubuntu :x
[10:32] <dobblego> un_operateur, yes, that was the one in the upgrade
[10:33] <Shi> gotta go, bbl
[10:33] <rausb0> ath0: /j #gohere
[10:33] <Jordan_U> Shi: There is a graphical package manager for kubuntu also, and synaptic can be used in kubuntu also.
[10:33] <PeanutHorst> i have another problem
[10:33] <dobblego> un_operateur, is there any simple way to resolve this problem?
[10:33] <PeanutHorst> the maximum res. of my display is 800x600
[10:33] <Jordan_U> Shi: that was meant for exs, sorry
[10:33] <PeanutHorst> so the menubar and taskbar are hiding bits of the set5up progrma
[10:33] <PeanutHorst> how do i get rid of them
[10:34] <PeanutHorst> and i apologise about my typing
[10:34] <un_operateur> dobblego: ok, i'm not on ubuntu right now -- but i'm guessing -- there ought to be a postinstall file in /var/lib/dpkg or /var/dpkg that relates to openoffice -- ideally at this version -- you will need to edit it
[10:34] <PeanutHorst> guten tag BlueEagle
[10:34] <PeanutHorst> bluehero: *
[10:35] <dobblego> un_operateur, I have a directory /var/lib/dpkg but no file called postinstall
[10:35] <un_operateur> dobblego: it's proabaly called openoffice<somethingortheother>postinstall.sh
[10:36] <dobblego> there is /var/lib/dpkg/info/openoffice.org-common.postrm
[10:36] <dobblego> and /var/lib/dpkg/info/openoffice.org-common.list
[10:36] <un_operateur> errm, yea, thats it -- if its the only one there
[10:36] <un_operateur> the former
[10:36] <dobblego> ok
[10:37] <dobblego> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38349/
[10:37] <un_operateur> dobblego: open it up with your editor -- sudo gedit ...
[10:37] <dobblego> ok got it
[10:37] <un_operateur> dobblego: line #3 -- comment out "set -e" .. place a # at the beginning of the line
[10:37] <Shi> back :)
[10:38] <dobblego> I have done that
[10:38] <sharilas> hello
[10:38] <Jordan_U> un_operateur: I'm just curious, what does set e do?
[10:38] <un_operateur> dobble -- save the file -- and try the command again
[10:38] <dobblego> sudo aptitude install openoffice.org-common still fails
[10:39] <dobblego> it fails with exactly the same problem
[10:39] <un_operateur> Jordan_U: well, you know that all commands return a value right -- set -e gets the script to fail if any of its included commands fail
[10:39] <Jordan_U> Ahh, thanks.
[10:39] <un_operateur> dobblego: you'll get the warnings still -- but the process should be complete tho
[10:39] <un_operateur> dobblego: pastebin again please
[10:40] <dobblego> ok
[10:40] <dobblego> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38351/
[10:40] <gephalt> Hello Springfield :D
[10:40] <sharilas> i am running feisty with kernel 2.6.19-7-generic and i have no sound after dist-upgrade gstreamer says Autodetect: Could not establish connection to sound server what can i do
[10:41] <gephalt> can anyone tell me why rhythmbox crashes when I scan my music folders?
[10:41] <qmf> hi there. i use swiftfox instead of firefox.. i also want to use gxine but i dont want firefox to be installed. gxine depends of firefox tho. is there a way i can install gxine so it depends on swiftfox instead?
[10:41] <gephalt> its about 12GB+ so i can understand it taking a bit of time- amarok does that fine too. without crashing
[10:42] <un_operateur> dobblego: errm, that sucks -- seems like its a broken pipe -- another command failing -- errm, try force installing the .deb -- sudo dpkg -i --force /var/cache/....
[10:42] <Madpilot> qmf, there's a number of apps that depend on Firefox; you can have it installed but use another browser as your default
[10:42] <qmf> Madpilot: i can't install gxine without firefox installing
[10:42] <qmf> oh.. i see what you mean
[10:43] <qmf> but i dont want it installed at all.
[10:43] <qmf> im trying to keep this setup as slim as possible
[10:43] <un_operateur> qmf, its not a good idea to remove the firefox on debian/ubuntu -- many packages depend on it
[10:43] <Madpilot> qmf, so? let it install, but make sure your system is pointing to swiftfox or whatever as your default browser
[10:43] <Madpilot> qmf, slim system = use the system defaults, so why install swiftfox in the first place?
[10:43] <dobblego> un_operateur, do you mean force-all ?
[10:43] <qmf> un_operateur: the only package that depends on firefox on this setup is gxine
[10:43] <un_operateur> dobblego: try both
[10:44] <dobblego> well, --force is a problem; dpkg won't accept it
[10:44] <Jordan_U> qmf: Unlike in windows, in Linux more applications != slower / more bloated unless they are daemons, which firefox is not.
[10:44] <dobblego> --force-all causes the exact same problem
[10:44] <dobblego> short read in buffer_copy (backend dpkg-deb during `./usr/lib/openoffice/share/xslt/import/wordml/wordml2ooo_field.xsl')
[10:44] <un_operateur> qmf, you can force install gxine -- dpkg -i --force-depends gzine*deb
[10:44] <SysRq-B> ok, I had a problem getting glx to work on i810 and NVidia simultaniously... got bored, popped in a Radeon too, heh... anyone know how to get all 3 working with glx :P
[10:44] <SysRq-B> brb
[10:44] <qmf> Jordan_U: it's a footprint issue. not a bloat issue
[10:44] <dobblego> what will happen if I remove ubuntu-desktop, then reinstall it?
[10:45] <cynical> dobblego: nothing, ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage
[10:45] <Jordan_U> dobblego: Nothing.
[10:45] <un_operateur> dobblego: you could do that -- you probaly might lose some desktop settings and a lot of time
[10:45] <Jordan_U> un_operateur: Only if he purges.
[10:45] <dobblego> well bugger me
[10:46] <Jordan_U> un_operateur: Why would he lose settings?
[10:46] <cynical> qmf: why not use totem-xine?
[10:46] <dobblego> so am I screwed?
[10:46] <cynical> qmf: I'm assuming you want gxine for the backend right?
[10:46] <cynical> dobblego: no you aren't
[10:47] <un_operateur> Jordan_U: well, for one -- hes going to be upgrading quite a few packages
[10:47] <cynical> dobblego: ubuntu-desktop isnt important. You can remove it if you want to
[10:47] <dobblego> I just wanted to do a apt-get upgrade
[10:47] <cynical> dobblego: and its asking you to remove a lot of packages?
[10:47] <dobblego> if removing ubuntu-desktop and reinstalling it will work, then I'll do it
[10:47] <dobblego> no, it fails on openoffice.org-common
[10:47] <Jordan_U> dobblego: I doubt that would help.
[10:48] <un_operateur> dobblego: if you feel brave -- just attempt it -- or do something like this -- sudo aptitude remove `aptitude search openoffice | grep -i ^i | awk '{print $2}'`
[10:48] <cynical> dobblego: whats the error message?
[10:48] <jbutler> someone should put together an audubuntu distribution for making a studio
[10:49] <jbutler> there are so many amazing sound utilities and it takes a while to get them all talking to each other
[10:49] <Flannel> !ubuntustudio | jbutler
[10:49] <ubotu> jbutler: ubuntustudio is a site is for the musician who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation, at  http://www.ubuntustudio.com. Or visit  #ubuntu-studio
[10:49] <jbutler> huh!  cool.
[10:49] <Flannel> jbutler: they liked your idea so much, they traveled back in time and started working on it.
[10:49] <dobblego> cynical, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38354/
[10:49] <jbutler> lol.
[10:50] <qmf> un_operateur: cheers buddy that worked a treat
[10:50] <un_operateur> qmf, what was that again?
[10:51] <un_operateur> qmf, sorry, forgive my gold-fish memory :)
[10:51] <chx> hi. there is no 686 kernel for Edgy? Strange. And I think it prohibits me from using cpufreq :(
[10:51] <SysRq-B> generic supports it, I believe +64bit
[10:51] <SysRq-B> also
[10:51] <cynical> dobblego: what version of ubuntu do you have?
[10:51] <dobblego> cynical, 6.10 upgraded from 6.06
[10:51] <Flannel> chx: edgy only has a "generic" kernel, which supports everything the old ones did, only in one kernel.
[10:52] <dobblego> cynical, I've had problems ever since the upgrade
[10:52] <un_operateur> dobblego: everyone does :)
[10:52] <dobblego> un_operateur, are there problems with a fresh 6.10 install though?
[10:52] <cynical> dobblego: try getting it from here, http://lug.mtu.edu/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openoffice.org/openoffice.org-common_2.0.4-0ubuntu2_all.deb
[10:52] <un_operateur> dobblego: if I were you, i'd force remove everything related to openoffice and start again
[10:53] <un_operateur> dobblego: well, not in your face ones -- definitely not as many as when you upgrade
[10:53] <dobblego> I'm not confident enough to do that
[10:53] <chx> Flannel: I have a Celeron M 410 CPU and both acpi-cpufreq and p4-clockmod says FATAL: Error inserting ... : No such device
[10:53] <dobblego> I'd rather just reinstall fresh
[10:53] <cynical> chx, they decided it was too much work for little benefit
[10:53] <dobblego> I have everything under revision control
[10:53] <SysRq-B> have you updated to edgy sources for installs?
[10:54] <un_operateur> dobblego: well, its your call -- you might get your setup up quicker that way
[10:54] <Gosha> !flash
[10:54] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:54] <un_operateur> dobblego: but i dont think thats "necessarily necessary" tho :)
[10:55] <PeanutHorst> HILFE! Is there a way to get rid of the GNOME Taskbar and Menubar when i'm trying to setup ubuntu form the livecd?
[10:55] <jame1> I have an ubuntu server install and I am trying to get a (local) SMTP working on it. Sendmail/smtpd don't seem to open port 25 when I tell them to start. How can I figure out what's going on?
[10:56] <SysRq-B> hmmm, quick question, does ubuntu have a software raid that can raid across partitions not just drives?
[10:56] <lupine_85> jame1: postfix > sendmail
[10:56] <un_operateur> dobblego: you could try force removing this way --   sudo dpkg --remove --force-all `aptitude search openoffice | grep -i ^i | awk '{print $2}'`
[10:56] <lupine_85> and you have to configure them...
[10:56] <dobblego> what the heck
[10:56] <PeanutHorst> lupine_85: sendmail/fetchmail > postfix
[10:56] <jame1> lupine_85: sorry, what do you mean >> ?
[10:56] <PeanutHorst> :p
[10:56] <jame1> oh so remove and go to postfix
[10:56] <dobblego> un_operateur, what do you suggest I do then?
[10:57] <lupine_85> PeanutHorst: postfix == sendmail + bellsnwhistles
[10:57] <PeanutHorst> ah but
[10:57] <un_operateur> dobblego: try that command up there -- see how it fares
[10:57] <lupine_85> jame1: it doesn't come with a working config out of the box
[10:57] <dobblego> un_operateur, it fared ok
[10:57] <lupine_85> that would be silly
[10:57] <PeanutHorst> bellsnwhistles != necessary
[10:57] <lupine_85> true
[10:57] <un_operateur> dobblego: already?? :o
[10:57] <PeanutHorst> :)
[10:57] <jame1> ok installing postfix
[10:57] <chx> so... the real question is... how could i downclock my Celeron M 410 CPU under Edgy? neither acpi-cpufreq nor p4-clockmod loads
[10:57] <dobblego> un_operateur, sure; this is a fast machine
[10:57] <lupine_85> according to a friend, exim > teh internets
[10:57] <lupine_85> but I wouldn't know about that
[10:58] <un_operateur> dobblego: that removes every single openoffice package eh -- its bound to take atleast 5 minutes even on a fast machine
[10:58] <dobblego> un_operateur, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38355/
[10:58] <un_operateur> dobblego: maybe the command's failing due to syntax error and you think it's succeeded
[10:59] <irc> hi, i need to re-run the network config script..
[10:59] <scribebox> how would i do that ?
[10:59] <lupine_85> scribebox: ifdown -a; ifup -a
[10:59] <lupine_85> insert sudo as appropriate
[10:59] <un_operateur> dobblego: heh, not bad :)  -- you could try a -- sudo aptitude install -f   now to normalize it a bit
[10:59] <scribebox> one moment.
[11:00] <Jordan_U> irc:  sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart ?
[11:00] <scribebox> now ifconfig?
[11:00] <dobblego> un_operateur, it's downloading now...
[11:00] <un_operateur> dobblego: cross yer fingers and touch wood :)
[11:00] <scribebox> itsonly showing loopback
[11:00] <un_operateur> dobblego: i'm gonna go make myself a brew -- be back in a few minutes
[11:00] <dobblego> un_operateur, ok thanks for your help, most appreciated
[11:01] <frogzoo> chx: your best bet would be bios - clocking control is pretty much for mobile cpus
[11:01] <chx> frogzoo: and Celeron M 410 is a mobile CPU...
[11:01] <nearfar> I want to cut some scenes from a DVD movie (already ripped to HD). Is there a software that allows me to do so?
[11:02] <gvikaskc> can any one help me on this >>> v4l: open /dev/video0: Permission denied
[11:02] <Jordan_U> gvikaskc: When do you get that error?
[11:03] <scribebox> ok
[11:03] <scribebox> i opted out of the network config during install
[11:03] <scribebox> and said "will configure manually"
[11:03] <scribebox> how do i configure it manually :)
[11:03] <gvikaskc> Jordan_U:  when i try  to run xawtv to see webcam
[11:03] <scribebox> (i didnt have a cat5 running to the box ;/)
[11:03] <frogzoo> chx: you have powernowd & gnome-applets installed?
[11:03] <gvikaskc> Jordan_U:  when i m logged in as root i can view but not as ordinary user
[11:04] <dobblego> un_operateur, same problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38356/
[11:04] <Jordan_U> scribebox: gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[11:04] <chx> frogzoo:
[11:04] <chx> frogzoo: they come only after the hardware drivers installed...
[11:05] <chx> but yes
[11:05] <scribebox> its on a server
[11:05] <Jordan_U> scribebox: Or System -> Administration -> Networking
[11:05] <scribebox> no gui
[11:05] <scribebox> i have a KVM switch hooked up
[11:05] <scribebox> lemme switch over and look
[11:05] <Jordan_U> scribebox: sudo vi or nano or whatever /etc/network/interfaces
[11:06] <scribebox> nano
[11:06] <jame1> lupine_85: i have postfix installed, and I can telnet to it. I want it to be running for PHP to use to send mail. I don't want an open relay but a closed one. How do you think I could do this?
[11:06] <un_operateur> dobblego: I really dont know what do now :( -- i'm spent, out of ideas -- its your call now -- either completely remove all dependencies or resinstall afresh
[11:06] <scribebox> it just has loopback
[11:06] <OkinawaInstructo> i am trying to mount a slaved hard drive... but not having any success... anyone got ideas on how to do this?
[11:06] <scribebox> no eth0.
[11:06] <scribebox> ?
[11:06] <dobblego> un_operateur, ok thanks a lot for your help
[11:06] <Jordan_U> scribebox: That is because you chose not to have it set up eth0 :)
[11:06] <un_operateur> dobblego: you're welcome anyhow :)
[11:06] <frogzoo> chx: you can: cat /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/info ?
[11:06] <scribebox> well ..lets do that ;)
[11:06] <vaineh> does anyone know how i can extract rar files when they are split up into parts r01, r02, r03 etc
[11:06] <scribebox> cause im tired of this hot pc sitting next to me
[11:07] <cafuego_> unrar e file1
[11:07] <scribebox> needs to be in the backroom with all the other servers :p
[11:07] <cynical> vanieh: yes you either extract the .rar file, or if there is none, the .01 part file
[11:07] <Jordan_U> scribebox: It probably needs to be something like:
[11:07] <Jordan_U> auto eth0
[11:07] <Jordan_U> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[11:07] <lupine_85> jame1: if you don't know how to configure it, read a good book or howto before you even try
[11:07] <lupine_85> it's not the sort of thing you can pick up in 10 minutes over IRC
[11:07] <scribebox> then /etc/init.d/network restart
[11:07] <scribebox> k
[11:07] <gvikaskc> ?
[11:08] <un_operateur> dobblego: did you try the command before that one by any chance?
[11:08] <vaineh> cynical, normal extract doesnt seem to work, it just creates a folder and then its empty
[11:08] <GvikasKC> can i paste the whole output here ???
[11:08] <Jordan_U> scribebox: or sudo ifdown -a && sudo ifup -a
[11:08] <cynical> vaineh: hmm, could be that you dont have all the files or one of them is corrupt. I'm assuming you got this from newsgroups?
[11:09] <dobblego> un_operateur, you mean, removing all the openoffice packages? yes
[11:09] <un_operateur> dobblego: this one --  sudo aptitude remove `aptitude search openoffice | grep -i ^i | awk '{print $2}'`
[11:09] <dobblego> yes
[11:09] <dobblego> that's the one that ran fast
[11:09] <scribebox> yay
[11:09] <scribebox> got a ping from google
[11:09] <un_operateur> dobblego: this one doesnt do the dpkg --remove tho
[11:09] <scribebox> thx ;)
[11:09] <un_operateur> dobblego: this one uses aptitude instead
[11:09] <scribebox> ok.. now .. wonder if ubuntu has openssh installed by default :S
[11:09] <Jordan_U> scribebox: No problem :)
[11:10] <dobblego> ok I'll try that ine
[11:10] <dobblego> *one
[11:10] <dobblego> it fails
[11:10] <mneptok> scribebox: client, yes. server, no.
[11:10] <Jordan_U> scribebox: Of course it does, any self respecting distro would :)
[11:10] <GvikasKC> another problem. i want to save .ps file as .pdf so that if i send this file to a windows user he can open it. but even if i use ps2pdf it does not work
[11:10] <un_operateur> dobblego: same errors/reasons?
[11:10] <scribebox> server..
[11:10] <scribebox> apt-get install openssh-server
[11:11] <mneptok> 'zackly
[11:11] <dobblego> un_operateur, no, it complains that some packages aren't configured yet
[11:11] <scribebox> problem solved..
[11:11] <mneptok> "problem?" ;)
[11:11] <scribebox> anyway, okkeee, then i need to setup TorrentFlux on this thing..
[11:11] <un_operateur> GvikasKC: you need to install a ps2pdf converter -- search packages.ubuntu.com for it
[11:12] <mneptok> scribebox: i use TF with a Dapper server and Lighty
[11:12] <philuk86> hi, can someone tell me how to format a SD card, only the hard disk and cd rom appear in gnomes disk manager.
[11:13] <koki> hi can anyone help me
[11:14] <neurotech> Is the "Tahoma" font available for Ubuntu?
[11:20] <frogzoo> oh man there must be some bad shiz in the ether
[11:22] <frogzoo> who turned out the lights? where'd everybody go?
[11:23] <mneptok> they are not in my pants or soda can.
[11:23] <mneptok> nope, no users in there.
[11:24] <mneptok> (unless microorganisms are now using computers)
[11:24] <gnomefreak> it was a massive netsplit
[11:24] <neurotech> Is the "Tahoma" font available for Ubuntu?
[11:24] <Abu^Adam> someone say something smart so I can copy it
[11:25] <Hobbsee> ah ha, we are still majorly split
[11:26] <frogzoo> !fonts | neurotech
[11:26] <frogzoo> ubotu you pos where ru?
[11:26] <neurotech> !fonts
[11:26] <neurotech> arrr
[11:27] <frogzoo> neurotech: you can get the ms fonts, not sure if it includes tahoma
[11:27] <Hobbsee> frogzoo: freenode is still split.  ubotu's probably split somewhere else
[11:28] <frogzoo> Hobbsee: parallel universe
[11:28] <Hobbsee> frogzoo: yeah, and i'm watching both...it looks really weird
[11:29] <frogzoo> silly me was thinking this was the 21st C but I was wrong
[11:52] <pepre> dapper with kernel 2.6.15-27-amd64-k8: there is no module "ath_pci"; with 2.6.15-27-amd64-generic it's available. hum? anyone here, who can confirm this?
[11:54] <zyvo> Hello
[11:56] <zyvo> I have a question right now i am running ubuntu from the life cd so i can look at it and try it and etc...
[11:56] <zyvo> But how do i install flash/java under the life cd?
[11:56] <zyvo> I can install .deb packages but i cannot find the good package :(
[11:56] <zyvo> And with most of the packages it gives this error:  ERROR : DepenDency is not satisfiable
[11:56] <zyvo> Can someone please help me out?
[12:00] <somerville32> !netsplit
[12:00] <SysRq-B> well, splits over
[12:01] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[12:01] <Trixsey> the aliens are here!
[12:01] <Trixsey> run for your lives!
[12:01] <SysRq-B> pdiddy_79, I have a URL for you
[12:01] <SysRq-B> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/22336
[12:01] <SysRq-B> same problem as you
[12:02] <SysRq-B> might have some info for you
[12:02] <zyvo> k thanks
[12:02] <SysRq-B> looks like a heat issue in that url
[12:04] <pepre> dapper with kernel 2.6.15-27-amd64-k8: there is no module "ath_pci"; with 2.6.15-27-amd64-generic it's available. hum? anyone here, who can confirm this?
[12:05] <Trixsey> Azureus in the edgy repos crashes for lots of users -_-
[12:05] <Trixsey> someone has been playing around a little too much there.. since 2.5.0.0 works fine from their site.. but not from repos :P
[12:05] <nordle> hello, I've just dist-upgrade to 6.10 from 6.06, and now my Netgear FA511 10/100 pcmci nic wont work.  The module loads, but I cant ping any ip's.  So I'm thinking that maybe there's an incorrect tulip module loaded, there are a few versions, so maybe I can have a poke in kernel source and re-compile.  Trouble is, no source, can apt-get it, so going to have to download and usb it i guess.     But I dont know the file structure of repos.  Can someone tell me w
[12:06] <SysRq-B> usually, it's apt-get install package-source
[12:06] <nordle> I cant, no nic
[12:06] <SysRq-B> just add -source
[12:06] <SysRq-B> oh, duh :P
[12:06] <SysRq-B> hmmm
[12:06] <nordle> :)
[12:07] <SysRq-B> do a download only apt-get
[12:07] <frogzoo> Trixsey: it would be really nice if they'd release an azureus fix
[12:07] <christos> hello, is there any perl module installer for ubuntu?
[12:07] <kameron_> from my win box, can i scp files to it locally, while logged into my linux box?
[12:07] <SysRq-B> I'm not that familiar with apt-get to tell you how, but I know it does it
[12:07] <frogzoo> christos: you mean like cpan?
[12:07] <Trixsey> frogzoo, yes lol
[12:07] <kameron_> there is no ssh server on my win box
[12:07] <gvikaskc> ps2pdf not working? can any one suggest a different pdf converter
[12:07] <erUSUL> pstopdf
[12:08] <SysRq-B> brb, grabbing a smoke
[12:08] <christos> frogzoo: I want like a tool like synaptic to install modules from cpan
[12:08] <nordle> SysRq-B: I cant, no nic, im doing this from another non debian based machine, hence why I think I need to http wget and then stick on usb stick to transfer to laptop.
[12:08] <SysRq-B> oh, ic
[12:08] <SysRq-B> thought it was second debian
[12:08] <pdiddy_79> SysRq-B: i went into recovery mode
[12:08] <zyvo> Does wine has directx?
[12:08] <kameron_> exit
[12:08] <Trixsey> zyvo, should have
[12:08] <Trixsey> since you can play WoW in WINE
[12:09] <SysRq-B> hmmm, not sure about http, let me look
[12:09] <Trixsey> or well.. not by default.. you'd have to install it :P
[12:09] <pdiddy_79> but what should i type in the command prompt?
[12:09] <frogzoo> christos: the name of that tool is.... cpan
[12:09] <erUSUL> gvikaskc: i thought that i was mistaken pstopdf seems to not exist...
[12:09] <nordle> SysRq-B: The deb laptop is a p2-266 I donated to my brother, I said "no problem, I'll upgrade it for you, only takes a few seconds (he dont have access to broadband), now I broke it :(
[12:09] <zyvo> K and wow is a great game
[12:10] <frogzoo> zyvo: yes, it's not 100%, but it works
[12:10] <SysRq-B> nordle, you try using the live CD?
[12:10] <Trixsey> zyvo, was refering to WoW using dx 9.0c :P
[12:10] <zyvo> he he :D
[12:10] <SysRq-B> pdiddy_79, did you get any errors?
[12:11] <pdiddy_79> can i access this support channel from a windows pc guys? since my laptop is freezing after 5 mins, i really need to get it fixed :(
[12:11] <pdiddy_79> no, no errors
[12:11] <MenZa> Does anyone know anything about the error with X crashing when I close the lid on my laptop, and how to fix it?
[12:11] <SysRq-B> is your CPU fan running?
[12:11] <SysRq-B> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/22336
[12:11] <frogzoo> pdiddy_79: did you boot grub & run a memtest?
[12:11] <erUSUL> pdiddy_79: why not? many people do it
[12:11] <Trixsey> pdiddy_79, why would you ask here? Ubuntu = Linux
[12:11] <SysRq-B> laptops are shutting down due to heat issues
[12:12] <nordle> SysRq-B: I should have used the Live CD to check its compatability?  Is that what you mean, or I should download it to use to apt-get download the deb,,, thats a good suggestion thanks :)  Trouble is, it means downloading 600MB ISO just to download 50MB file.   Surely its easy just to wget the file needed, no?
[12:12] <Trixsey> ./join #windows
[12:12] <MenZa> SysRq-B: :o
[12:12] <MenZa> Interesting, thanks
[12:12] <SysRq-B> no, I mean, use Live CD to try to fix
[12:12] <MenZa> I read about a guy who fixed it
[12:12] <MenZa> How, I have no idea
[12:12] <MenZa> But the fan is running
[12:12] <SysRq-B> maybe net will work with Live CD installed
[12:13] <MenZa> Only X crashes, and restarts when Iopen the lid
[12:13] <SysRq-B> you probably need the restricted modules... trying to find repository for ya
[12:13] <pdiddy_79> my laptop will freez again in a min...can i accesss xcaht from a windows client?
[12:13] <frogzoo> pdiddy_79: any irc client will do
[12:13] <SysRq-B> yes
[12:14] <SysRq-B> or use mIRC
[12:14] <nordle> SysRq-B: Many thanks!  I think I might have a liveCD on a magazine cover, I'll have a hunt for it.
[12:14] <SysRq-B> Xchat isn't free for Win anymore, iirc
[12:14] <SysRq-B> nordle, sorry I couldn't find a repository for you
[12:14] <Tschaka> try xchat silverex instead
[12:14] <SysRq-B> aye, that'll work
[12:15] <mneptok> pdiddy_79: paste this into your Windows web browser: http://jirc.hick.org/cgi-bin/launch.jnlp?irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntu
[12:15] <nordle> SysRq-B: thats ok, thanks for looking.  The LiveCD is a good suggestion, i'll give that a go, im sure I've got one round here somewhere.
[12:15] <SysRq-B> nordle, might be easier to locate a wired pcmcia card also
[12:16] <SysRq-B> do setup, confirm the wireless works, then give it back to the poor person you stole it from ;)
[12:16] <nordle> SysRq-B: It is wired :)
[12:16] <SysRq-B> ah... hmmm, now that is strange
[12:16] <SysRq-B> usually it's the wireless that fails
[12:17] <SysRq-B> do you have a cable or dsl modem?
[12:17] <SysRq-B> try USB connection to that if you do
[12:18] <SysRq-B> nordle, you know exactly what you need?  you could try something like rpmfind or pbone
[12:18] <alecjw> hi. anyone know of any graphical (gtk) download utils, which support pausing downloads, contiuing them, restricting the max download speed etc?
[12:18] <SysRq-B> not sure if they carry .deb, but maybe worth a shot
[12:18] <nordle> yeah, true, and it worked fine with 6.06, so a little odd. dsl, which im using from another machine.  Its not a DNS issue, I cant even ping the router on its ip.   Im sure its something to do with the tulip module being used for loads of things, I'll try and boot the liveCD on my local PC and download the via apt-get that way, just need to find the CD, sure I got one, thanks.
[12:19] <SysRq-B> you try xtraceroute?
[12:19] <SysRq-B> might be a dhcp issue
[12:19] <nordle> Using fixed IP
[12:20] <SysRq-B> right gateway?
[12:20] <lupine_85> archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu <----- lots of .deb files
[12:20] <SysRq-B> hurray!
[12:20] <nordle> yep :)   I did a dist-update so the settings are ok.....woohoo, cheers!
[12:20] <SysRq-B> ok, well, you're well under way now, I'm off to smoke :D
[12:20] <SysRq-B> cheers
[12:21] <nordle> ahhh, yeah, I found repos, problem was, soooo many dirs inside, no idea where to look... just have to search and see, not used to deb repo layout.
[12:21] <frogzoo> zyvo: I'd also suggest you use wine from the budgetdedicated repo, as they're more up to date
[12:22] <frogzoo> nordle: apt-cache search is much easier
[12:22] <lupine_85> nordle: you want to be in pool/
[12:24] <nordle> frogzoo: ok, thanks, if I used livecd that will be the way to go, currently I have no buntu/deb based PC that has a working nic..... thanks lupine_85, should not take long. If I new the distro more, I could just grep the packae.list txt file that is usually stored somewhere.
[12:25] <frogzoo> nordle: apt-cache is better than grepping
[12:25] <lupine_85> dists/edgy/{main,restricted/binary-i386/Packages
[12:25] <lupine_85> probably
[12:25] <lupine_85> don't quote me on that :p
[12:25] <lupine_85> pool/ is usually ordered alphabetically though
[12:26] <lupine_85> something random - anyone know how much data a . is when doing svn commit ?
[12:29] <kleinweby_> hello, i have a problem with mein wlan card (in a MacBook) normaly run thes out of the box, but i started today my book and i dont have a ath-drive, in dmesg are this errors: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/6112/ can anyone help me?
[12:31] <frogzoo> lupine_85: what is this, trivial pursuit?
[12:32] <AbortD> yes
[12:32] <Stork> is it possible to preserve dates when using rsync ?
[12:32] <Hobbsee>  marsu can you type /msg chanserv unban #ubuntu ?
[12:32] <AbortD> nope
[12:33] <lupine_85> frogzoo: yeah, if you like
[12:34] <MenZa> I thought Ubuntu came with SVN...?
[12:34] <lupine_85> MenZa: you need to install it
[12:34] <MenZa> lupine_85: oh?
[12:34] <MenZa> I get no package 'svn' in repos.
[12:34] <lupine_85> subversion
[12:34] <MenZa> ah
[12:34] <MenZa> fanks
[12:35] <Hobbsee> marsu: weird.  that was with no unbanning.  oh well :)
[12:35] <marsu> That's odd...
[12:36] <k_vv> hello...how can I install .deb package when i have it in /var/cache/apt/archives/ ?
[12:37] <lupine_85> dpkg -i <file.deb>
[12:37] <erUSUL> k_vv: dpkg -i
[12:37] <HymnToLife> !dpkg
[12:37] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[12:37] <k_vv> I try : apt-get --no-download --ignore-missing install <package_name>
[12:37] <k_vv> but nothing happends
[12:38] <frogzoo> k_vv: best to move it somewhere else, then dpkg -i
[12:38] <lupine_85> nah, you can dpkg -i it from /var
[12:38] <lupine_85> just don't dpkg -i *deb ...
[12:38] <lupine_85> (I normally do that rather than typing out the whole name :s )
[12:39] <k_vv> ok,thx...dpkg works...
[12:39] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: i didnt see a ban on him in here
[12:40] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: yes, he doesnt appear to be banned
[12:40] <starz> hum
[12:41] <naelphin> from this webpage: http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/09/04/howto-speed-up-shutdownreboot/ there is a .gz file to speed up shutdown. the link is dead, any mirrors available?
[12:42] <jatt> (I would not install non-official .gz files to speed up shutdown)
[12:43] <un_operateur> i'm trying to rescue a failing ubuntu but am stuck with chroot and multiple mouont points -- i've booted up knoppix and chrooted to /mnt/hda2 (/) but how do i get the chrooted /boot to map to the real /dev/hda1 ?
[12:44] <lupine_85> un_operateur: you mount --bind /proc /mnt/hda2/proc
[12:44] <lupine_85> you can then use mount inside the chroot
[12:44] <lupine_85> or just mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda2/boot
[12:44] <lupine_85> it all works
[12:44] <un_operateur> lupine, do i issue a mount --bind prior to chroot or after?
[12:44] <lupine_85> before
[12:45] <biotrox> i can't erase my DVD+RW
[12:45] <lupine_85> otherwise mount can't see the directory outide the chroot :p
[12:45] <biotrox> some one help me
[12:45] <jatt> !ask
[12:45] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:45] <frogzoo> biotrox: install k3b
[12:45] <un_operateur> lupine_85, yep, I know -- which is why i asked the question :p
[12:46] <lupine_85> un_operateur: cool :)
[12:46] <alecjw> anyone know how i get a sha1sum or sha256sum for a file?
[12:47] <un_operateur> lupine_85, i still get a  "mount: special device /dev/hda2 does not exist" inside the chroot
[12:47] <pawel> jest tu jakis polak
[12:47] <alecjw> !pl
[12:47] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[12:48] <alecjw> !pl | pawel
[12:48] <ubotu> pawel: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[12:48] <lupine_85> un_operateur: mount --bind /dev as well then
[12:48] <biotrox> oke in order to install k3b, i have 4 DVD repositories.. but i just got it today what am i suppose to do with it..?
[12:48] <pawel> dzieki
[12:48] <biotrox> so that the package manager will not donlod the package but just use the DVD repo that i got
[12:49] <un_operateur> lupine_85, maybe it'd help if i explained a bit more -- i'm trying to install an older kernel within ubuntu -- the one's i have ATM are 2.6.19 and 2.6.20 .. both seem to be a little problematic at the moment, so i'd like to try out an older release
[12:49] <un_operateur> lupine_85, ahh ok
[12:50] <HymnToLife> un_operateur, Edgy has 2.6.17, Dapper has 2.6.15 and Breezy has 2.6.12
[12:50] <dellorino> ubuntu-it
[12:50] <frogzoo> pawel: clearly you can't have all dvds mounted at once - best would be try 'apt-get install k3b' - see what it wants to d/l, then copy the debs from the dvds & 'dpkg -i pkg.deb'
[12:50] <un_operateur> HymnToLife, errm, but i run feisty :)
[12:50] <Dimensions> hi i wanna check some entries in log file just forgot how to do combine check in multiple logs ... i want to check success and date would be 20061220 in *.log how do i apply it (  grep -i 20061220|grep -i success *.log|wc) ??
[12:50] <wahl> why don't my beryl works on my ati? ( i have followed this guide : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=290841 , but it won't work:S anyone knows how to do?
[12:51] <HymnToLife> and you want to install an older kernel ?
[12:51] <un_operateur> HymnToLife, yep
[12:51] <HymnToLife> hmm
[12:51] <frogzoo> wahl: are you using the proprietary fglrx driver?
[12:51] <HymnToLife> wel, you're off to compiling I guess
[12:52] <wahl> i think so, i have followed the guide
[12:52] <un_operateur> HymnToLife, no no, the usual dpkg -i ..
[12:52] <HymnToLife> does it work ?
[12:52] <un_operateur> HymnToLife, well, i'm about to find out right now
[12:52] <HymnToLife> you'll be lucky if it does /me thinks
[12:52] <un_operateur> HymnToLife, I dont see why not
[12:53] <frogzoo> un_operateur: no harm in trying
[12:53] <un_operateur> frogzoo, precisely
[12:54] <HymnToLife> hmm yeah, actually the linux-image packages don't have much dependencies
[12:54] <HymnToLife> I though there would be lots of them
[12:54] <un_operateur> frogzoo, HymnToLife I got this problem yesterday after installing a bunch of updates -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=321959
[12:54] <wahl> frogzoo yes i have done everything right
[12:54] <HymnToLife> ouch
[12:54] <wahl> but it won't work...
[12:54] <HymnToLife> that hardware is definitely not enough for UBuntu
[12:55] <HymnToLife> oh, nm, didn't notice the Fluxbox part :p
[12:55] <un_operateur> HymnToLife, aye, but i am not that irving guy -- i'm sysops (down at the bottom) :)
[12:55] <HymnToLife> oh, right :p
[12:56] <un_operateur> HymnToLife, and i do run fluxbox tho :p
[12:56] <flevour> hi all, greetings to everyone
[12:56] <HymnToLife> Fluxbox is nice
[12:56] <HymnToLife> I have it runing on & 486DX with 16 MiB RAM in Potato :p
[12:57] <san_> wow
[12:57] <wahl> any can help me with this? "Nvidia Absent, assuming AIGLX , beryl: No composite extension" how to?
[12:57] <un_operateur> !nvidia
[12:57] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:57] <flevour> i am wondering how big can a get an average ubuntu installation in Gigabytes not including /home
[12:57] <HymnToLife> he has an ATi card, methinks
[12:58] <un_operateur> flevour, i have it just under 3GB
[12:58] <HymnToLife> flevour, if you're short on diskspace, I suggest you have a try at Debian instead
[12:58] <un_operateur> or the minimal ubuntu
[12:58] <wahl> i got ati radeon 9600
[12:58] <un_operateur> wahl, use the same link ubotu posted up there
[12:59] <flevour> HymnToLife: un_operateur: it's not a matter of being short on space, it's just that i have installed it in a 5G partition yesterday, and i am wondering if i'll find out it's too small any time soon or not
[12:59] <wahl> i did
[12:59] <HymnToLife> flevour, just check how much space you have left
[12:59] <un_operateur> flevour, not unless you install a lot of stuff
[12:59] <alecjw> flevour: 4.2gb here, but with a few extra programs instllaed
[01:00] <flevour> after full installation i have 3.2gb free
[01:00] <flevour> but i still need to upgrade to latest packages
[01:00] <wahl> this is hard...
[01:00] <un_operateur> flevour, if you are like me, you'll uninstall the unnecessary packages that you don't need/use
[01:01] <HymnToLife> 1165 MiB here, in Debian Etch :)
[01:01] <alecjw> flevour: i instaleed ubuntu on a 10g partition + 150gb for /home
[01:01] <HymnToLife> Ubuntu installs sooo much useless stuff by default
[01:01] <un_operateur> flevour,  2013940 B here -- ubuntu feisty :)
[01:02] <alecjw> HymnToLife: +1
[01:02] <frogzoo> flevour: you can exhaust 5gig if you intall everything
[01:03] <flevour> i dont have very big needs, so i think i'll leave it at 5G
[01:03] <manuzhai> I just installed ubuntu 6.10 on my laptop, but when I switch to 1280x800 resolution, it displays all kind of weird stuff and interesting kinds of replication
[01:03] <manuzhai> any tips on fixing that?
[01:03] <frogzoo> !fixres | manuzhai
[01:03] <ubotu> manuzhai: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:03] <flevour> in case i think there must be a way to dd the partition to another bigger partition
[01:04] <frogzoo> un_operateur: can't say as that's anything but a kernel bug
[01:05] <un_operateur> frogzoo, yea, i think so too, because the issue has only cropped up after a few years with the latest release of something
[01:05] <un_operateur> frogzoo, which is why i'm set to install an older kernel here to see if thats the case
[01:05] <alper> hello guys
[01:05] <alper> i got a problem
[01:05] <alecjw> is there any command to generate a sha256sum?
[01:06] <alper> i installed ubuntu 6.10 but it doesnt support fully my soundcard "Realtek ALC880"
[01:06] <alper> mic works, but not the speakers
[01:06] <un_operateur> which sha256sum : /usr/bin/sha256sum
[01:06] <flevour> just one more thing, do you guys have ever heard about this error with wpa_supplicant and Intel Pro wireless : "ioctl[IPW_IOCTL_WPA_SUPPLICANT] : Operation not supported" ?
[01:07] <frogzoo> !sound | alper
[01:07] <ubotu> alper: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[01:07] <un_operateur> flevour, is this because you try and run a command? or are you seeing this in a log of some kind?
[01:07] <frogzoo> un_operateur: try kernel option 'elevator=cfq' - not saying it will fix anything
[01:08] <un_operateur> frogzoo, thanks, i'll make a note
[01:08] <flevour> un_operateur: trying this command: wpa_supplicant -Dipw -ieth1 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
[01:08] <un_operateur> flevour, are you sudoing this command?
[01:08] <flevour> un_operateur: yes
[01:09] <flevour> un_operateur: actually, i copied the conf from the gentoo installation i am moving away from, maybe there are some incongruencies somewhere
[01:10] <un_operateur> flevour, hmm, i dunno if it'd be 100% compatible
[01:10] <flevour> un_operateur: i'll check the forums
[01:10] <un_operateur> flevour, there's quite a lot of talk about this on the net -- im sure you'll find out how to resolve it
[01:11] <eyalw> hi!
[01:11] <lupine_85> flevour: it's fine
[01:11] <lupine_85> my /home went from gentoo -> SuSE -> Dapper -> Edgy -> Feisty <-> Edgy and it's running like a charm
[01:12] <un_operateur> lupine_85, you running a Fesity/Edgy hybrid setup?
[01:12] <eyalw> i'm searching for a free tool, whos functionality is similar to Babylon5, i wanna mark a word on any application and press some key and let the app pop up and translate that word for me (Eng->Heb)
[01:12] <lupine_85> un_operateur: separate feisty/edgy partitions with a shared /home
[01:13] <manhattan> kto pomoze?
[01:14] <un_operateur> lupine_85, I see, it's good to know that the /home is almost completely portable now :)
[01:14] <fnf> Does anyone know what package should I install to access the GNU C library documentation ?
[01:14] <lupine_85> un_operateur: some fun when I was using thunderbird, but nothing dangerous
[01:15] <Chris_XY> hi ^^
[01:15] <Onore_e_Gloria> hi
[01:16] <un_operateur> lupine_85, well, they say, the nagging is expected to continue indefinitely :) I get small problems all the time
[01:16] <Chris_XY> does anyone know where to get winetools? the download server seems to be down and i was not able to find some mirrors ...
[01:17] <pdiddy_79> hi all, sorry, laptop still freezing...does ubuntu have a GUI for updating kernels ?
[01:17] <un_operateur> fnf -- search for libc, libstdc, etc doc and dev packages at the archives -- packages.ubuntu.com
[01:20] <un_operateur> pdiddy_79, I'm not too sure -- maybe synaptic or the update manager can do it -- but you will need to tell either of them to update
[01:21] <Magus_X> they, Ubuntu 6.10 will be free someday? i mean, to send it
[01:21] <noona> how can i enable a network connection between windows xp and knoppix live cd?
[01:23] <un_operateur> noona, what kind of a question is that?? :)  windows is windows and knoppix, knoppix ; they're two completely different OSes
[01:23] <noona> i have 2 computers
[01:23] <noona> i am running windows xp on one of them
[01:23] <noona> now i found out ( i think) that the other pc's HD is corrupted
[01:24] <un_operateur> noona, ohh, sorry, my bad -- are both of them able to get on the network/internet?
[01:24] <alecjw> un_operateur, noona: try samba for file sharing
[01:24] <IdleOne> noona, try #knoppix
[01:24] <noona> no, only one of them
[01:24] <noona> i use a modem connection
[01:24] <eyalw> i'm searching for a free tool, whos functionality is similar to Babylon5, i wanna mark a word on any application and press some key and let the app pop up and translate that word for me (Eng->Heb)???
[01:24] <Magus_X> he wants to share the connection
[01:25] <noona> she*
[01:25] <Magus_X> oh, sorry
[01:25] <Magus_X> :~
[01:25] <noona> :)
[01:25] <un_operateur> noona, you'll need somethign connecting up the knoppix and XP computers -- like ethernet or wifi? do you have that up atleast?
[01:26] <alecjw> is it possible to upgrade from debian to ubuntu? if so how? change the lines in sources.list to ubuntu ones then sudo aptitude update, sudo aptitude dist-upgrade?
[01:26] <noona> i have a network cable
[01:26] <Jopie> Hi, I'm looking for a bittorent source for the Ubuntu 5.10 Install CD
[01:26] <noona> (cross)
[01:26] <IdleOne> noona,  in knoppix Administration menu there should be a Networking Tab. probably need to enable your NiC card in there
[01:26] <|cub|> hey ppl
[01:26] <alecjw> Jopie: why 5.10? what's wrong with 6.10 (the latest)
[01:26] <|cub|> can anyone tell me way to look with wich options packet is installed?
[01:26] <un_operateur> noona, how are you going to hook them up -- throught a hub/switch or directly?
[01:27] <noona> directly (cross network cable)
[01:27] <Jopie> alecjw: it's incompatible with my older computer, it just reboots instantly after it's installed
[01:27] <lupine_85> why bittorrent? :p
[01:27] <alecjw> Jopie: and 6.06 doesn't work either?
[01:27] <Jopie> no... same issue
[01:27] <lupine_85> 7.04? ;)
[01:28] <Jopie> also the desktop version does the same, but freezes before X even starts...
[01:28] <alecjw> lupine_85: becuase Jopie is considerate and understands that the servers are under enough starin already :)
[01:28] <Jopie> bittorent is much much faster :)
[01:28] <chibiace> Jopie: whats the specs?
[01:28] <Jopie> 2 seconds...
[01:29] <un_operateur> noona, ok, as long as that's right -- you need to assign ip addresses to each comp in the same network -- i'm assuming you know how to do that on windows -- on knoppix, under the start menu > knoppix > Network/Interent Network card config
[01:29] <alecjw> Jopie: actually, just had a thought. i doubt that many people would be seeding a bitttornt
[01:29] <alecjw> for such an old verison
[01:29] <chibiace> i have a cd for 5.10 somewhere heh.
[01:29] <Jopie> it's a 500 Mhz K6-II machine with 64MB of ram... that last point is hard :)
[01:29] <noona> yeah i did that in knoppix
[01:30] <noona> i got "use DHCP broadcast"?
[01:30] <un_operateur> noona, for the XP comp use 192.168.1.1/255.255.255.0  for knoppix use 192.168.1.2/255.255.255.0
[01:30] <noona> ok ithink that's yes
[01:30] <un_operateur> noona, DHCP wouldnt be of any use here as XP doesnt have a DHCP server built into it
[01:30] <Jopie> yes it does... enable the connection sharing and it'll act as a dhcp server
[01:30] <alecjw> Jopie: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/release/ubuntu-5.10-dvd-i386.iso.torrent
[01:30] <chibiace> Jopie: i have the same processor on a gigabyte board with 256mb memory, whats the memory speeds and have you tried the text only install
[01:30] <Jopie> thanks!
[01:31] <Jopie> chibiace: the install goes fine, but then it says 'booting the kernel' and then reboots the machine
[01:31] <alecjw> Jopie: although, as i said, there might not be all that many seeders for such an old rleease
[01:32] <alecjw> Jopie: and i assumae you're on an x86, am i right?
[01:32] <chibiace> Jopie: perhaps you need to make grub not use acpi, or some other feature that is conflicting. reset the bios and check the power options and stuff
[01:32] <Jopie> alecjw: I'm gettint 150kb /s with one peer & one seed :)
[01:32] <Jopie> yes
[01:32] <noona> sending DHCP broadcast failed
[01:32] <eichi> i have a small problem...what to automload a modul that only works with insmod /path/modul.ko
[01:33] <chibiace> Jopie: and do the memtest
[01:33] <eichi> how can i do that? where to put this?
[01:33] <un_operateur> noona, set it manually dude -- dont use DHCP
[01:33] <eichi> *autoload
[01:33] <Jopie> chibiace: I'll try again, see what it does
[01:33] <ptr07> hello, can anybody help my with headphone jack in notebook? it doen't work :(
[01:33] <fester> hi guys.. Could someone please help me.. When i connect my USB pen to Ubuntu.. it doesnt show on desktop..
[01:34] <Jopie> ptr07: likely your sound card isn't recognized automatically and you'll have to find them yourself...
[01:34] <chibiace> jopie: i had problems on a compaq last week because the memory was in the wrong slot and was giving lots of errors, the install cd wasnt booting properly
[01:34] <alecjw> ptr07: try turning the volume up to max on everyhting in the volume control
[01:34] <iami89> I cant install driver for my NVIDIA graphic card, every times when i installed driver my system crash -> dieO:-), who can help me?, my VGA is NVIDIA geforce 4 mx440 128mb AGP 4x TV out
[01:34] <un_operateur> fester, try browsing /media/usb
[01:34] <ptr07> Jopie: i have sound from internal speakers, but headphone jack has no output :(
[01:34] <un_operateur> fester, or /media/usb1 .. etc
[01:35] <fester> ok.. but how do i get it to appear on dekstop..
[01:35] <fester> I believe it mounrs properly
[01:35] <fester> mounts
[01:35] <ptr07> alecjw: I have everything up to max, nothing muted - no sound from headophones
[01:35] <alecjw> ptr07: in gnome-volume-control?
[01:35] <un_operateur> fester, if it mounts -- just create a desktop shortcut :)
[01:35] <Jopie> ptr07: are you sure your headphones are ok?
[01:35] <ptr07> alecjw: yeap
[01:35] <kvossen> I'd like to set up an external monitor for my laptop. Are there any tools or howtos that could help me with this?
[01:35] <fester> but it used to show up when i stuck any disk in..
[01:36] <fester> now it doesnt any ideas?
[01:36] <ptr07> Jopie: yes, i'm sure there are working
[01:36] <iami89> I cant install driver for my NVIDIA graphic card, every times when i installed driver my system crash -> dieO:-), who can help me?, my VGA is NVIDIA geforce 4 mx440 128mb AGP 4x TV out
[01:36] <chibiace> fester: you changed anything in gconf-editor? there is an option for displaying volumes under nautilus
[01:36] <un_operateur> fester, minor hitch, it doesnt break your world does it? :)
[01:37] <Jopie> ptr07: maybe it's a driver thing then... where the driver has to software support it? but it might just as wel be in the mixer
[01:37] <noona> i am required to enter IP address in knopixx
[01:38] <noona> which one should i exactly pick after ipconfig in window?
[01:38] <fester> yeah.. but it was nice to have
[01:38] <noona> windows*
[01:38] <Jopie> exactly: use 192.168.1.2 with the subnet mask 255.255.255.0
[01:38] <un_operateur> noona, one up from the last number
[01:38] <ptr07> Jopie: i don't know
[01:39] <Jopie> ptr07: is this a laptop?
[01:39] <ptr07> Jopie: yes
[01:39] <Jopie> ptr07: when you plug your headphones in, does the sound from the speakers go?
[01:39] <fester> I think i might install .10 instead
[01:39] <chibiace> when i plug headphones into my laptop there is no sound after its unplugged again.
[01:40] <chibiace> fester .10 is good
[01:40] <ptr07> Jopie: yes, if I plug headphones in I don't have sound from speakers
[01:40] <biotrox> can i make ubuntu-desktop as a server..?
[01:40] <chibiace> ptr07: do you have a headphones device under alsamixer
[01:41] <Jopie> biotrox: they're exactly the same...  except the server install doesn't install the graphical interface
[01:41] <Jopie> and has some server specific package install options
[01:42] <iami89> I cant install driver for my NVIDIA graphic card, every times when i installed driver my system crash -> dieO:-), who can help me?, my VGA is NVIDIA geforce 4 mx440 128mb AGP 4x TV out
[01:42] <ptr07> chibiace: i have: MAIN, PCM and in another tab: RECORDING in Alsa mixer
[01:42] <Xaro> Hey everyone, could someone offer some help please?
[01:42] <biotrox> is linuxmint the same as edgy..?
[01:42] <chibiace> ptr07: you can also add extra stuff in with the volume control thing
[01:42] <un_operateur> !anyone | Xaro
[01:42] <ubotu> Xaro: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:43] <Xaro> hahah ;) alrite
[01:43] <fester> whats going to happen to ubuntu since edgy is frozen on debian?
[01:43] <finalbeta> !ati
[01:43] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:43] <ptr07> chibiace: how?
[01:43] <chibiace> ptr07: but you probably wont get many more options. edit > prefs
[01:43] <Lynoure> fester: you are confusing Etch and Edgy
[01:43] <ptr07> chibiace: I have all options from edit -> pref on
[01:44] <Xaro> Im having some problems loading the kernal of the 6.06 CD that I got today, it mounts the root filesystem and then goes to the screen with Loading Kernal adn it just freezes there, any suggestions?>
[01:44] <Parmaste1> hi all
[01:44] <fester> oh right..
[01:44] <chibiace> ptr07: dont use headphones? :D since i have headphone related issues it might be an idea to google as much as you can
[01:44] <GMT-1_AZ> Hi everybody. There's a problem with video streaming. Most of the times sound and video are not sinchronized. Is there a solution ?
[01:44] <fester> oh ok..
[01:44] <Lynoure> fester: Debian Etch is the upcoming Debian release (and, yes, frozen at the moment), Edgy is the latest Ubuntu release
[01:44] <fester> thanks for  clarifying that!
[01:45] <ptr07> chibiace: I need headphones, ok let's google out some info
[01:45] <un_operateur> Xaro, a lot of people are having boot problems today -- do you know what kernel release you were on last?
[01:45] <ptr07> chibiace: thx for try
[01:45] <Lynoure> fester: you are welcome :)
[01:45] <chibiace> ptr07: nod shame i didnt have an answer
[01:46] <fester> Great to know there is nothing really to worry about
[01:46] <Lynoure> fester: I have been amused about the similarity of the names myself
[01:46] <Parmaste1> i can't hear any sound in Ubuntu 6.10 and i've all alsa driver installed
[01:46] <Xaro> hmm, well its the 6.06 CD, i was trying to run it LiveCD
[01:46] <chibiace> Xaro: can you do the memory test?
[01:46] <Xaro> yeah fine, anything else just does the same as i mentioned above though
[01:47] <fester> Yeah.. Im a great fan of debian for servers.. just thought ubuntu relied on debians updates
[01:47] <un_operateur> fester, yes, in a way, ubuntu's packages are derived from debians
[01:47] <noona> it's not working
[01:48] <|cub|> wc
[01:48] <chibiace> Xaro you have another computer to test the cd on? other then that id say bios or hardware conflict
[01:48] <taigeR_> Hi
[01:48] <raxip> Hello
[01:48] <un_operateur> noona, did you give XP an IP address? and what IP address did you give Knoppix?
[01:48] <Xaro> alrite ill give it a go on my laptop
[01:48] <Lynoure> fester: but it is not like Debian will grind to halt now, they are just more picky about putting things into Etch.
[01:49] <noona> what should i enter for "IP ADDRESS for eth0"?
[01:49] <raxip> no
[01:49] <fester> Yeah.. good point alright
[01:49] <taigeR_> you tell me
[01:49] <un_operateur> noona, that depends on what IP address you gave XP
[01:49] <[GuS] > hi!
[01:49] <noona> i dont give it, it
[01:49] <noona> s a
[01:50] <noona> it's assiged ip but not by me
[01:50] <noona> so where do i get which xp it's assigned?
[01:50] <un_operateur> noona, well, we told you twice alread -- set both computers to have a manual IP address
[01:50] <Jordan_U> Whenever I try to hybernate I get an error that I don't have enough memory.
[01:50] <noona> which ip*
[01:50] <iami89> how to custom dictionary in UBUNTU for my lang?
[01:50] <un_operateur> noona, are you asking how you determine XP's ip address?
[01:51] <noona> isnt it determinded on its own?
[01:51] <noona> i mean, by my ISP
[01:51] <Lynoure> un_operateur: sounds like she is using dhcp
[01:51] <coco__> hi. I need some help
[01:51] <Xaro> ok its just mounted the root filesystem which it didon my pc, but now its moving the mount points adn doing the rest of it, which on my pc it just went to the black screen after the mounting of the root filesystem
[01:51] <un_operateur> noona, didnt you say you had both these computers hooked up via a cross-over cable?
[01:51] <noona> yes
[01:51] <coco__> I have tried many times to setup my system with two monitors, but it never works
[01:52] <un_operateur> noona, then the IP address on the XP interface connecting to knoppix has to be given an IP address by you
[01:52] <noona> i just had to give a name for the host computer
[01:52] <chibiace> Xaro, try doing some of the stuff for hardware conflicts in the cds help on your desktop
[01:52] <un_operateur> noona, that interface's ip address has nothing to do with your ISP
[01:52] <un_operateur> noona, please, just do it, ok :)
[01:53] <Xaro> ok :)
[01:53] <noona> shouldnt i get this info by ipconfig?
[01:53] <justin_> I have a really strange problem with edgy.. I reworked my XORG config file so I could have my radeon and stuff back - but when I reset it said that XORG could not load, But it is not the graphics driver because I am using it right now -- it ONLY crashes when I switch it from the PS/2 mouse to the COM mouse on /dev/input/ttys0 or even /dev/ttys0 --- does anyone know how to fix this or if the string changed?
[01:53] <un_operateur> noona, well, if you havent manually set one as of yet -- then you should do that now -- otherwise the ipconfig information will be of no use to you
[01:54] <alper> hey guys, can someone tell me how to install XCHAT 2.6.8 for ubuntu; downloading and installing with the install manager doesnt work :/( (highlight pls)
[01:54] <neutrinomass> justin_: if you used dpkg-reconfigure, there's a backup of your xorg.conf somewhere (I think /var/backup )
[01:54] <un_operateur> noona, control panel -- network connections -- <connection name> -- right click -- properties -- select tcp/ip -- properties ---
[01:54] <Jordan_U> justin_: What exactly did you change?
[01:55] <noona> is that a static ip address?
[01:55] <noona> ok, which one shouldi follow  on this webpage?
[01:55] <noona> http://www.hotcomm.com/FAQ/FAQ_staticIPXP.asp#current_ip
[01:55] <fester> is there an easy way to upgrade from .10 to .11 when it comes out?
[01:55] <fester> apt-get dist-upgrade/
[01:55] <fester> ?
[01:55] <Jordan_U> neutrinomass: I believe it is /etc/xorg.conf.date-xorg-was-replaced
[01:55] <justin_> neutrinomass, Well everything works but the mouse.. composite, 3d accel etc so the file is fine.. it works with the PS/2 mouse but for some reason crashes if I change to serial what is the command for serial in edgy? --- /dev/ttys0 or /dev/input/ttys0 or /dev/input/mice/ttys0?
[01:55] <un_operateur> noona, aye, yes -- use 192.168.1.1 as ip address and 255.255.255.0 as subnet mask here
[01:55] <IdleOne> alper, sudo aptitude install xchat-gnome ( believe thats 2.6.8 )
[01:56] <teperdono> hi, is there somebody who may assist me to setup my nvidia graphic card for my dual monitor system?
[01:56] <justin_> Jordan_U, Well what I always change -- /dev/input/mice --- because that always makes my PS2 mouse work, but I always use my serial mouse instead.
[01:56] <neutrinomass> fester: There won't be a .11 . The version is <year>.<month> :-) (dapper was 6.06 because it was released June (.06) of 2006 (6.xx) . Feisty fawn will be 7.04
[01:56] <noona> sure un_ope.?
[01:56] <un_operateur> noona, yes
[01:56] <neutrinomass> fester: And upgrading is possible :)
[01:56] <noona> then why is the defaukt 0.1 ( at the end)
[01:56] <noona> not 1.1
[01:56] <neutrinomass> Jordan_U: correct, thanks
[01:56] <noona> default*
[01:57] <teperdono>  hi, is there somebody who may assist me to setup my nvidia graphic card for my dual monitor system?
[01:57] <fester> Oh ok..
[01:57] <justin_> Oh I think I have found the problem :)
[01:57] <fester> thank you!
[01:57] <neutrinomass> justin_: I'm not too sure but you can copy the relevant section from your old xorg.conf
[01:57] <neutrinomass> !upgrade > fester
[01:57] <un_operateur> noona, 1.1
[01:57] <neutrinomass> fester: you're welcome!
[01:57] <justin_> In section "Server Layout" I do not have "generic serial mouse" ;D
[01:57] <justin_> neutrinomass, That's what I did actually
[01:57] <justin_> This XORG is a copy of the XORG that worked fine in Dapper.
[01:57] <noona> ok, now broadcast address for eth0?
[01:58] <justin_> And it does work, except it refuses to use the serial mouse
[01:58] <teperdono>  hi, is there somebody who may assist me to setup my nvidia graphic card for my dual monitor system?
[01:58] <IdleOne> !nvidia
[01:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:58] <neutrinomass> justin_: Sorry I don't know. I can only suggest the obvious, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg :(
[01:58] <nickspoon> !twinview
[01:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about twinview - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:58] <nickspoon> :(
[01:58] <momal> can someone tell me the thing to install grub the cmd... i installed ubuntu on friends pc and it didn't put grub on the sata harddrive so it just auto boots window >_<
[01:59] <nickspoon> momal: grub-install
[01:59] <Jordan_U> justin_: I would recommend that if you are not sure what you are changing that you use: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg instead of changing your xorg.conf by hand, it should give you an option for what tipe of mouse you want to use.
[01:59] <IdleOne> !fixgrub
[01:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixgrub - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:59] <noona>  ok, now broadcast address for eth0?
[01:59] <nickspoon> momal: if it boots windows now, the best thing to do is burn the Super Grub Boot CD.
[01:59] <Jordan_U> !grub | IdleOne
[01:59] <ubotu> IdleOne: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:59] <teperdono> thanks, ubotu, but the problem is that I have tried so many pages by now... and it never works. I need direct assistance, pleas
[02:00] <justin_> Jordan_U, I know what I am changing I have been using Debian Linux'es for about 7 years now :P
[02:00] <IdleOne> !grub | momal
[02:00] <justin_> It's just the first time this has ever happened to me..
[02:00] <ubotu> momal: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:00] <nickspoon> momal: then you get a nice menu with which you can install Linux GRUB.
[02:00] <IdleOne> ty Jordan_U
[02:00] <momal> i can get it up with ubuntu live cd... just need to get it to install grub on there.. oh
[02:00] <justin_> Perhaps Edgy for the sake of being modern, does not add a "Generic Serial Mouse" line to the server layout section anymore.
[02:00] <nacho_> Ubuntu sucks, use Debian
[02:00] <Jordan_U> justin_: OK, no offence meant, just most people that come here don't :)
[02:01] <Life> nacho: why?
[02:01] <neutrinomass> nacho_: Please take your trolling someplace else, this is a support channel.
[02:01] <Life> yes yes neutrinomass is right
[02:01] <Life> good morning all
[02:03] <ath0> a
[02:03] <ath0> rausb0: da bin ich wieder
[02:04] <LjL> !de
[02:04] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:05] <jamesbrose> How Do I install fonts?
[02:05] <igge> hello..
[02:05] <BlackHawk> hi
[02:05] <apokryphos> !fonts
[02:05] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[02:05] <igge> if I have a Mac G5 (I assume it is intel based) which image should I get?
[02:05] <apokryphos> igge: ppc
[02:06] <igge> aha
[02:06] <igge> apokryphos: so G5 is not intel?
[02:06] <Jordan_U> igge: No, G5 came before the intel switch
[02:07] <igge> alrite
[02:07] <igge> thanks..
[02:07] <chibiace> PPC
[02:08] <XaroTheOne> Hello All
[02:08] <apokryphos> hi
[02:08] <All> Hi.
[02:08] <momal> how do i find out what the (hdx,x) is ?... from when i have the harddrive from the /dev
[02:09] <XaroTheOne> This is Xaro
[02:09] <nickspoon> momal: what's the name of the hd in /dev?
[02:09] <justin_> That was the problem just so people know.. if they have the same issue.
[02:09] <Xaro> Im running the LiveCD on my laptop whilst trying to fix why it wont mount the root filesystem on my PC
[02:09] <chibiace> Xaro, those options didnt help?
[02:09] <nickspoon> Xaro: what's your root FS?
[02:10] <rapid> igge, something with x86 in it probably
[02:10] <Xaro> yeah im having a look into those options now
[02:10] <Xaro> I just dont know what minght be conflicting with it
[02:11] <momal> /dev/sda is the one with windows which i need grub on and the other is /dev/hdc which linux is installed on
[02:11] <chibiace> Xaro, it stops at mounting the drives not the kernel?
[02:11] <nickspoon> momal: is /dev/sda NTFS?
[02:11] <momal> yes.. i don't need write support just grub installed on it
[02:12] <Jordan_U> momal: sudo fdisk -l
[02:12] <karakara> in evolution is it possible to have seperate folders/sections for each mail account?
[02:12] <Xaro> well, it get to the Mounting Root Filesystem bit and then goes to the black screen with Loading Kernal adn then hangs, whilst on my laptop it stays on the main screen adn continues to laod all the mount points etc
[02:12] <nickspoon> momal: you can't install grub on an NTFS partition.
[02:12] <ken0> I already had some here with the same problem. But no one answered. Maybe some of you may chime in. This is my problem: I went to System>Administration>Services, and randomly switched off two/three services. Now when i open the services through "gksudo services-admin" i get "The configuration could not be loaded
[02:12] <ken0> You are not allowed to access the system configuration.
[02:12] <ken0> " and when i restart my computer i get "Internal error
[02:12] <ken0> failed to initialize HAL" Someone please please please please HELP!!!!
[02:13] <nickspoon> ken0: start a failsafe GNOME session.
[02:13] <chibiace> Xaro: try disconnecting your harddrive
[02:13] <momal> then how can i get the system to open the ide hdc up first and read grub?? and then get windows from the sata ?
[02:13] <ken0> nickspoon, how do i do that?
[02:13] <ken0> nickspoon, and after starting it what do i do? please explain.
[02:14] <nickspoon> ken0: on the login screen, choose Options, Sessions, Failsafe GNOME.
[02:14] <nickspoon> then try re-enabling the services.
[02:14] <Xaro> alrite ill try that
[02:14] <ken0> nickspoon, ok i will try that will be back. Thank you
[02:14] <nickspoon> momal: change the disk to boot from in the BIOS.
[02:14] <jenda> How do I empty trash with root priviledges?
[02:14] <momal> ahh ok .. let me try that
[02:14] <nickspoon> momal: /dev/hdc should be (hd2,0)
[02:15] <nickspoon> anyway, I'm off now, good luck.
[02:15] <Jordan_U> jenda: sudo rm <path to files >
[02:15] <chibiace> Xaro: you have msn or google?
[02:15] <jenda> Jordan_U: But what's the path to the trash?
[02:15] <rebecca> hey peoples. my azureus keeps getting the error message "Disk read error, NullPointerException" showing in the status of each torrent. the torrents do work for a while until this happens and they halt downloading. any ideas people?
[02:16] <chibiace> jenda: .trash i think
[02:16] <constrictor> anyone do PHP here?
[02:16] <Xaro> yeah im getting msn now
[02:16] <neutrinomass> how is /etc/fstab generated normally ? (I'm doing a debootstrap install )
[02:16] <chibiace> jenda: .Trash
[02:16] <jenda> chibiace: Right, thanks :)
[02:16] <inzion>  what could be the reason for a system clock running extremly slow?
[02:16] <momal> nickspoon: I can't change the order the hds boot in from bios :S
[02:17] <chibiace> jenda: silly capitals
[02:17] <jenda> chibiace: I tried it before, and it didn't work for some reason...
[02:17] <Jordan_U> inzion: Hardware or software?
[02:17] <jenda> chibiace: I don't mind the caps - I have a setting that allows me to ignore typos in paths for the cd command :)
[02:17] <inzion> Jordan_U, software, hardware is working great
[02:17] <jenda> So .trash worked fine.
[02:18] <ken0> It didn't help
[02:18] <neutrinomass> inzion: is dma on ?
[02:18] <ken0> I am getting the same error
[02:18] <Xaro> brb later
[02:18] <ken0> 1)The configuration could not be loaded
[02:18] <ken0> You are not allowed to access the system configuration.
[02:18] <joene> hi
[02:18] <ken0> 2)Internal error
[02:18] <ken0> failed to initialize HAL!
[02:18] <ken0> Someone please HELP
[02:19] <joene> has someone a wiki how to install a ATI radeon 9700 3d acceleration?
[02:19] <ken0> !ati
[02:19] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:19] <Rookie_> !ati
[02:19] <Alakazamz0r> yep yep yep
[02:20] <joene> !ati
[02:20] <ken0> Someone? :(
[02:20] <inzion> neutrinomass, actually i really dunno, how do i check it?
[02:21] <neurotech> hmm.. having some trouble with a DVD - about 60% of the way through when watching it VLC crashes
[02:21] <inzion> neutrinomass, cat /proc/dma
[02:21] <inzion>  4: cascade
[02:21] <momal> How do I instal grub if the primary harddrive is sata and is ntfs (/dev/sda) and I want to get grub on there or someway to get /dev/hdc (linux) to boot using grub
[02:21] <ken0> I will repeat my question, last time in hope that someone would help me. I went to administration>services, and checked some of the services off. Now when i try to open services "gksudo services-admin" I get error: The configuration could not be loaded
[02:21] <ken0> You are not allowed to access the system configuration.
[02:21] <ken0>  and whenever i log into GNOME i get the error: Internal error
[02:21] <ken0> failed to initialize HAL!
[02:21] <ken0>  SOme please please please please help. I am at wits end
[02:22] <neutrinomass> inzion: Hm... I don't have a /proc/dma ... IDE or SATA ?
[02:22] <inzion> neutrinomass, ide
[02:22] <savvas> is anyone else experiencing bad connection to se.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[02:23] <savvas> pardon, se.cdimage.ubuntu.com
[02:23] <neurotech> hmm.. having some trouble with a DVD - about 60% of the way through when watching it, VLC closes itself. Any ideas what could be causing this? (I have libdvdcss2)
[02:23] <Life> hi, for someone reasons i can't make any connections to the server, however the server can make connections to other servers
[02:23] <Alakazamz0r> http://www.wikihow.com/Care-for-a-Donkey
[02:23] <neutrinomass> inzion: Try 'sudo hdparm /dev/hda' , where hda your drive
[02:24] <dthacke1> How do I re-run dhcp from the command line so I can connect to my network without rebooting, and how do I load the dhcp man pages so I don't have to ask you again?
[02:24] <savvas> neurotech: have you tried mplayer?
[02:24] <inzion> neutrinomass, /dev/hda:
[02:24] <inzion>  multcount    =  0 (off)
[02:24] <inzion>  IO_support   =  0 (default 16-bit)
[02:24] <inzion>  unmaskirq    =  0 (off)
[02:24] <inzion>  using_dma    =  1 (on)
[02:24] <inzion>  keepsettings =  0 (off)
[02:24] <inzion>  readonly     =  0 (off)
[02:24] <inzion>  readahead    = 256 (on)
[02:24] <inzion>  geometry     = 16383/255/63, sectors = 78156288, start = 0
[02:24] <dthacke1> please do not paste!
[02:24] <inzion> sry
[02:25] <neutrinomass> inzion: next time use pastebin ;) dma seems to be on ...
[02:25] <savvas> 1.25K/s omg
[02:25] <ken0> no-one? LjL: ? Anyone? please
[02:25] <neutrinomass> inzion: <very very long shot> It isn't a Core Duo on Dapper 6.06 is it (with no updates) ?
[02:25] <neurotech> savvas: Yeah mplayer plays it fine, but when I skip to a similar point it gives the generic error message: "this dvd seems to be encrypted - are you sure you're using libdvdcss2"
[02:25] <neurotech> or something to that effect
[02:26] <neurotech> i am making an ISO of the DVD to test
[02:26] <inzion> neutrinomass, nope its a Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz..
[02:27] <LjL> ken0: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22failed+to+initialize+hal%22&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 - anyway i'm not sure it is too smart to highlight me after you spent the last hours yesterday dodging bans
[02:27] <kvossen> I'd like to set up an external monitor for my laptop. Are there any tools or howtos that could help me with this?
[02:28] <gibbster> Hello everyone. I tried installing network-manager-pptp but I'm pretty sure it screwed up. I tried reinstalling, but with no success. Anyone had trouble with this package?
[02:28] <ken0> LjL: You see sir, when the computer system on which you depend on heavily behaves badly, one can do many things to get it to work the correct way
[02:28] <neutrinomass> inzion: Sorry don't know ... :( Can you pastebin the output of 'dmesg' and the file /home/<your username>/.xsession-errors
[02:28] <LjL> ken0: such as completely disregard common IRC courtesy? :) alright, your take.
[02:29] <ken0> LjL: When one's head is dizzy and is intoxicated with the complexities of the OSS, many things are overlooked
[02:29] <gibbster> It puts in an icon in the Applications/Internet menu, but it's broken
[02:29] <gibbster> 'Could not launch menu item'
[02:29] <eichi> where to put modules, which should autoload on boot?
[02:29] <eichi> ls /etc/modules.autoload.d/
[02:29] <eichi> ls: /etc/modules.autoload.d/: No such file or directory
[02:30] <gibbster> Is this a bug?
[02:30] <inzion> neutrinomass, dmesg looks good and X is not present, but thanks anyways...
[02:30] <neurotech> savvas, any ideas? :(
[02:30] <neutrinomass> What generates /etc/fstab during install and how can this be done manually? Or alternatively, how to figure out what UUIDs to put there :-)
[02:31] <neutrinomass> inzion: /var/log/syslog ? 'top' ? 'uptime' ?
[02:31] <ken0> LjL: You see as some of the services have been manually disabled by me, i am locked out of the services dialog box, and i believe one of the services i switched off is causing the HAL problem. So i simply need to get a way to get back to services dialog box. Any ideas?
[02:31] <chibiace> eichi /etc/modules
[02:31] <chibiace> # /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time.
[02:32] <Edulix> hi
[02:32] <inzion> neutrinomass, all good, uptime isn't that long, upgraded the kernel a few days before in hope it helps...
[02:32] <Edulix> I've got a new ipod nano
[02:32] <Edulix> in windows it works
[02:32] <Edulix> now, I connect it here in ubuntu and nothing happens
[02:32] <Edulix> gtkpod doesn't detect it (apparently)
[02:32] <neutrinomass> inzion: I meant the load readings from 'uptime' ;) 'top' doesn't show any process hogging the cpu then ...,
[02:32] <LjL> ken0, i use KDE, so i don't even know what is the services dialog box that you're talking about. however, if that's something that controls /etc/init.d init script, then maybe look at
[02:32] <LjL> !boot
[02:32] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[02:33] <linda777> I'm using 6.06. Is there any reason that the "tree" command would not be available to me at the CLI?
[02:33] <Edulix> thing is, I see the device in device manager
[02:33] <alper> anyone highlight me please
[02:33] <ken0> LjL: OK what i am talking about is System>administration>Services, the CLI for it is "gksudo services-admin"
[02:34] <neutrinomass> Ok, I'll try a traditional-style fstab :(
[02:34] <chibiace> ken0, and then what happens?
[02:34] <LjL> ken0: ...... i still don't have the slightest idea, i *use KDE*
[02:34] <LjL> i don't use Gnome
[02:34] <ken0> chibiace, i get "The configuration could not be loaded
[02:34] <ken0> You are not allowed to access the system configuration.
[02:34] <ken0> " Yesterday i switche dof some services randomly and now i have locked myself out of the services box
[02:35] <ken0> LjL: Do you mean to say that the command "services-admin" doesn't work in KDE?
[02:35] <gibbster> does anyone know how to use network-manager-pptp?
[02:35] <LjL> ken0: no. i mean to say that it doesn't *exist*
[02:36] <ken0> LjL: ok,that was the reason you couldn't sympathise with my problems yesterday? :)
[02:36] <chibiace> ken0, how did you manage that lol.
[02:36] <linda777> When I type "tree" I get "command not found."
[02:36] <LjL> ken0, no, the reason was that you were doing everything but behaving like one's expected to in this channel.
[02:36] <ken0> chibiace, ITs frightful and i am approaching towards a reformat. please dont laugh
[02:37] <IdleOne> linda777, isnt tree a windows cmd
[02:37] <ken0> LjL: i shall take care in the future to keep my cool
[02:37] <LjL> linda777: that's probably because there is no such command as "tree", at least that i know of
[02:37] <chibiace> linda777: sudo apt-get install tree
[02:37] <linda777> Well, I'm working from "Ubuntu Unleased" and I have a whole section on tree.
[02:37] <linda777> Many thanks, chibiace
[02:37] <chibiace> tree is awesome ppl
[02:37] <ken0> chibiace, So do you have any idea how do i get back the services dialog box?
[02:37] <linda777> AH! Right you are chibiace, and I am treeing now as we speak thanks to you. :)
[02:38] <chibiace> ken0, hrm
[02:39] <jamesun> Hello
[02:39] <jamesun> I'm new here.
[02:39] <linda777> This is a minor thing, but I keep losing the use of my mouse wheel. It works fine, then suddenly it won't. If I reboot, I get it back. I've checked the xorg.conf file.
[02:39] <ken0> LjL: what i am planning is making a new user-account migrating my home to the new account, and deleting the original account. But as i cannot see another users home, how will i copy all my files to the new account. BTW, selecting all files in my current home and replacing them in the new users home should work, right?
[02:39] <saharaab> hello is there 2.6.19.1 precomplied kernel for ubuntu????
[02:40] <PeanutHorst> ok, now i have two problems with the ubunut livecd... first, the setup window is larger than the screen of my laptop (a 14" 800x600 lcd)
[02:40] <LjL> ken0, if that Services application is started as root (and it is, it needs gksudo, doesn't it), then it's not messing up with your own account, but with the *system* itself. making a new account won't gain you anything i'm afraid.
[02:40] <chibiace> ken0, cd /home, then mv yourusenam newusename might work as root ?
[02:40] <PeanutHorst> second, the setup does nothing after the keyboard layout selection screen
[02:40] <PeanutHorst> any help in this would be greatly appreciated
[02:41] <saharaab> anyone can tell me?
[02:41] <LjL> ken0, rather i think you should find out which services you disabled, and re-enable them using update-rc.d, or perhaps by reinstalling the packages
[02:41] <linda777> PeanutHorst: Are you using the auto-detect keyboard option?
[02:41] <saharaab> hello is there 2.6.19.1 precomplied kernel for ubuntu????
[02:41] <PeanutHorst> linda777: the wha?
[02:41] <LjL> ken0: look if your /etc/init.d contains anything called "hal" or something like that. mine doesn't, but then i'm on KDE.
[02:41] <ken0> LjL: ok, thats what too complex for me, but let me see how easily i can break my system by downloading packaged from synaptic
[02:41] <PeanutHorst> i can't even see the whole screen
[02:41] <PeanutHorst> and it's been doing nothing forn >3hours now
[02:42] <neutrinomass> saharaab: There is, for feisty, but you really shouldn't be using it ... Why do you want to use it ?
[02:42] <linda777> PeanutHorst: You say your resolution is 800 x 600 on your laptop?
[02:42] <LjL> ken0: if something breaks due to installing packages from synaptic, then that's a bug.
[02:42] <linda777> PeanutHorst: Why don't you to a text install rather than graphical?
[02:42] <IdleOne> PeanutHorst,  you can do a server install and after that is done you would do a sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop or kubuntu-desktop
[02:42] <linda777> Then you can set the screen rez to 800 x 600.
[02:42] <ken0> LjL: ok
[02:42] <saharaab> because it support my TV card
[02:43] <PeanutHorst> linda777: how do i do a text install, hey?
[02:43] <PeanutHorst> i'm using the 6.06lts livecd
[02:43] <PeanutHorst> i'll kill x and then we can discuss further hang on
[02:43] <Guardian> !flash
[02:43] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:44] <linda777> PeanutHorst: Ah, I remember -- you have to see the desktop screen and then hit install. Can you see the install button so that you can get started? After you go into that, it gives you a text option.
[02:44] <ken0> LjL: so basically i have to reformat? I dont know what is update-rc.d, and it is giving me wierd outputs
[02:44] <PeanutHorst> linda777: i couldn't see the whole screen
[02:44] <inzion> neutrinomass, have to work on something other, thanks for the help
[02:44] <PeanutHorst> so i couldn't see a text option
[02:44] <Lunar_Lamp> How do I add a module to be automatically loaded on boot so I don't have to "modprobe" each time? I can't remember!
[02:44] <gibbster> Arghh! network-manager is giving me much grief
[02:45] <Lunar_Lamp> !modprobe
[02:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about modprobe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:45] <chibiace> Lunar_Lamp: /etc/modules
[02:45] <LjL> ken0: there's certainly other ways besides a reformat, but you'd have to find someone more familiar with services and specifically the Gnome-only services
[02:45] <Lunar_Lamp> chibiace, thanks! :)
[02:45] <ken0> LjL: the man says about update-rc.d " The program was written this way so  that  it  will
[02:45] <ken0>        never  change an existing configuration, which may have been customized
[02:45] <ken0>        by the system administrator." SO i am out of luck with that
[02:46] <linda777> The most trouble-free way would be to get the server disk, install, and then install the desktop.
[02:46] <MenZa> !restricted > borg
[02:46] <MenZa> huzzah
[02:46] <linda777> Whoever said that was right -- unless someone here knows how to force the text install from the desktop cd
[02:46] <PeanutHorst> server disc?
[02:46] <PeanutHorst> i have no burner here
[02:46] <linda777> PeanutHorst: Did you download the current disk you're using?
[02:46] <PeanutHorst> i wonder if i could...
[02:46] <PeanutHorst> oh dear, x  won't die
[02:46] <linda777> Ah, no burner. Hmm.
[02:47] <PeanutHorst> and no, i got it mailed to me ;)
[02:47] <gibbster> I got the following: "Failed to execute child process "nm-vpn-properties" (No such file or directory)" after I launch the menu item that was installed by network-manager-pptp. Is that a bug?
[02:47] <chibiace> ken0, what exactly is not working other then access to the services thing
[02:47] <biotrox> hey all i just change my linuxmint bea to ubuntu edgy eft :)
[02:47] <linda777> PeanutHorst: OK, it looks like "Install in Text Mode" is the very first option.
[02:48] <linda777> So, you should be able to go into install and just hit enter -- it's the first one on the list.
[02:48] <ken0> chibiace: I disabled some services yesterday, so as a consequence, that services-dialog box doesn't open, and everytime i reboot i get "Internal error
[02:48] <ken0> failed to initialize HAL!
[02:48] <ken0> "Moreover i haven't tried many new things as of now, so some things might not work but i am yet to discover them . THis is so frustrating
[02:48] <saharaab> what's edgy sorry but i'm new on ubuntu
[02:48] <lupine_85> !edgy
[02:48] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[02:48] <PeanutHorst> linda777: i can't see a bloody thing!
[02:48] <PeanutHorst> i am literally flying blind
[02:48] <apokryphos> saharaab: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[02:49] <PeanutHorst> and i need to kill X somehow
[02:49] <linda777> PeanutHorst: I feel your pain...
[02:49] <linda777> Can you just reboot?
[02:49] <biotrox> !codecs
[02:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:49] <ken0> lupine_85, I had a talk with you a few days back, and feel that you might be able to help me. Can you please look into my problem?
[02:50] <chibiace> ken0 im looking at services atm.
[02:50] <PeanutHorst> linda777: ok, rebooting
[02:50] <lupine_85> ken0: sorry, never heard of services
[02:50] <lupine_85> erm, HAL
[02:50] <PeanutHorst> how do i override the runlevel to give me runlevel 3 off the livecd?
[02:50] <PeanutHorst> if that makes any kind of sense
[02:51] <neutrinomass> PeanutHorst: I don't think you can do a text install from the LiveCD ...
[02:51] <IdleOne> PeanutHorst,  seems You need to get the alternative install CD.. and if you miss anything you can apt-get your way up.
[02:51] <PeanutHorst> and also linda777 sorry about being so snarky.. this satellite is really irriting me
[02:51] <linda777> PeanutHorst: No worries. And IdleOne, he can't, he doesn't have a burner.
[02:51] <lupine_85> PeanutHorst: telinit 3
[02:51] <ken0> !services
[02:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about services - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:51] <lupine_85> not that it matters, runlevels 2-5 are identical
[02:51] <ken0> !hal
[02:51] <ubotu> hal: Hardware Abstraction Layer. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.7.1-0ubuntu17 (edgy), package size 347 kB, installed size 1112 kB
[02:52] <lupine_85> sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop in a terminal will do what you want
[02:52] <PeanutHorst> safe graphics mode, would that give me space to breathe (aka a smaller installer window)?
[02:52] <ken0> !service
[02:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about service - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:52] <chibiace> ken0 did you disable dbus?
[02:52] <LjL> !fishing
[02:52] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[02:52] <linda777> It night, it couldn't hurt.
[02:52] <ken0> chibiace, Maybe i did it, i dont know that name of 2-3 services i disabled
[02:52] <linda777> I'm seeing the screen you are now, -- you're right, there is no text option.
[02:52] <IdleOne> PeanutHorst,  give it a shot
[02:52] <jerrymouse> hey guys. any1 has ATI x700pro problems in Edgy ?
[02:52] <biotrox> hey guys from indonesia how do u say "limbung" in english.?
[02:53] <IdleOne> biotrox, babelfish.com
[02:53] <neutrinomass> PeanutHorst: Could be. Are you on the LiveCD right now? Try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" from a terminal
[02:53] <neutrinomass> !fixres
[02:53] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:53] <biotrox> !ATI | jerrymouse
[02:53] <ubotu> jerrymouse: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:53] <LjL> babelfish... indonesian?
[02:53] <chibiace> ken0. you have msn or google?
[02:53] <ken0> chibiace, yes
[02:53] <neutrinomass> !fixres > PeanutHorst
[02:53] <jerrymouse> bionoid i tried almost everything
[02:53] <ken0> chibiace, what do you mean by "have"?
[02:54] <ken0> !bots>ken0
[02:54] <neutrinomass> PeanutHorst: Use that to fix your resolution and then try to use the LiveCD installer.
[02:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bots - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:54] <PeanutHorst> nope
[02:54] <PeanutHorst> lol
[02:54] <LjL> ubotu tell ken0 about bot
[02:54] <jerrymouse> bah nvm. gonna google more :|
[02:54] <linda777> It is a Toshiba Satellite?
[02:54] <PeanutHorst> linda777: yes it is
[02:54] <PeanutHorst> 2060CDS
[02:54] <linda777> They are such a pain in the ass...
[02:54] <PeanutHorst> K6/2-366, 96MB RAM
[02:54] <chibiace> ken0 mine is chibiace, if you add me i can help you abit easier
[02:55] <PeanutHorst> also, it ran most other linuxen fairly reasonably
[02:55] <ken0> ubotu tell ubotu about ubotu
[02:55] <linda777> What happened when you did safemode -- same thing, too big?
[02:55] <GMT-1_AZ> I have ati radeon 9550 and I'd like to know if it is safe to switch to AGP mode 8. Tanks
[02:55] <IdleOne> !abuse
[02:55] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:55] <PeanutHorst> linda777: no, i'm starting in safemode now
[02:55] <biotrox> ya i need to translate indonesian language to english
[02:55] <linda777> I think it will work, b/c of Christmas, PeanutHorst
[02:56] <chibiace> GMT-1_AZ: if it does 8x then its safe enough. if you get any problems just switch it back
[02:56] <ken0> chibiace, you mean, you want to interract with me over a google account?
[02:56] <GMT-1_AZ> ok. tanks
[02:56] <chibiace> or msn, interact is such an interesting word
[02:56] <ken0> chibiace, would a IRC pm window too?
[02:56] <ken0> chibiace, :)
[02:57] <PeanutHorst> linda777: eh?
[02:57] <PeanutHorst> why christmas whaT?
[02:57] <chibiace> its not as pretty :( but whatever floats your boat
[02:57] <dthacke1> LjL: what is the syntax to ask the bot a question the and have it sent directly to me?
[02:57] <Seveas> dthacke1, /msg ubotu something
[02:57] <LjL> Ubotu, tell dthacke1 about bot | dthacke1, see the private message from Ubotu
[02:57] <PeanutHorst> !help | dthacke1
[02:57] <ubotu> dthacke1: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:57] <IdleOne> PeanutHorst,  she means that you might get a Xmas miracle and it will work out for you lol
[02:57] <linda777> IdleOne: :)
[02:58] <ken0> chibiace, Please PM me, and you can talk to me there
[02:58] <dthacke1> Sevtnx
[02:58] <dthacke1> argh, tnx both
[02:59] <IdleOne> Seveas,  may I msg you>?
[02:59] <thehumanerror> I've got a 40GB disc that's connected using a Firewire - ATA bridge
[02:59] <thehumanerror> not that that's relevant
[02:59] <PeanutHorst> linda777: well, safe graphics mode is actually working WORSE i think
[02:59] <PeanutHorst> i'm not sure
[03:00] <thehumanerror> and I've just started using it with ext3 instead of vfat
[03:00] <PeanutHorst> or maybe it's just that this satellite is 7 years old and a little slow :p
[03:00] <thehumanerror> but obviously now I can't write to it as a user because it's owned by root
[03:00] <Seveas> IdleOne, sore
[03:00] <linda777> PeanutHorst: lol. That might be it. Is there anyway you can get to a terminal?
[03:00] <PeanutHorst> thehumanerror: i use SGI's XFS
[03:00] <chibiace> ken0: why dont you PM me
[03:00] <PeanutHorst> linda777: lol i wish
[03:00] <PeanutHorst> i need to actually be in a working kernel first
[03:01] <PeanutHorst> hang on while i beat the crap out of my laptop and then i'll et back to you *evil grin*
[03:01] <chibiace> PeanutHorst: ctrl+alt+f3 doesnt work?
[03:01] <janne1> hi
[03:01] <ken0> chibiace, I pmed you maybe you are not getting my PMS. Has this channel blocked PMs? My nick is not registered on freenode
[03:01] <ken0> c
[03:02] <PeanutHorst> Seveas: thankyou
[03:02] <PeanutHorst> is it a bastard's hammer from hell?
[03:02] <Seveas> ken0, only registered users can send PM's
[03:02] <janne1> got a problem: after the login into kubuntu my keyboard doesnt work anymore
[03:02] <chibiace> ken0 yes i dont think it works.
[03:02] <Seveas> PeanutHorst, worse :)
[03:02] <PeanutHorst> or is it maxwell's silver hammer, so i can make it come down upon shuttleworth's head?
[03:02] <PeanutHorst> ;p
[03:02] <PeanutHorst> chibiace: ctrl+alt+f1 would do
[03:02] <ken0> Seveas, Is that true for all channels on freenode or for only #ubuntu
[03:02] <PeanutHorst> BUT linux hasn't actually booted yet
[03:03] <janne1> got a problem: after the login into kubuntu my keyboard doesnt work anymore. during the login it works, at the shell it works
[03:03] <Seveas> ken0, pm's have nothing to do with channels.
[03:03] <chibiace> PeanutHorst: you never know what you have running on f1.
[03:03] <PeanutHorst> chibiace: i do
[03:03] <PeanutHorst> at the moment it's up to
[03:03] <ken0> Seveas, i think my question still remains unanswered. Do you mean on the entire freenode server this is the policy?
[03:03] <Seveas> ken0, yes
[03:03] <PeanutHorst> Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel.
[03:03] <Seveas> ken0, see http://wwwfreenode.net
[03:04] <Seveas> ken0, see http://www.freenode.net
[03:04] <Seveas> !java
[03:04] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[03:04] <ken0> chibiace, Care to take the pains to join some another server and then explain the solution to me over a PM?
[03:04] <biotrox> ark in mandriva, in ubuntu..?
[03:04] <chibiace> PeanutHorst: my problems were solved about having to deal with low memory and stuff on some computers by buying some cd-r, alt cd is good. :( sad that you cant write one
[03:04] <Seveas> ken0, or both just join some other channel
[03:04] <pike_> jenda: regular old ps2 keyboard? maybe just sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:05] <chibiace> ken0 irc.deviantart.com #devart
[03:05] <Seveas> biotrox, ark in kubuntu, file-roller in ubuntu
[03:05] <ken0> chibiace, ok
[03:05] <biotrox> thx seveas
[03:05] <yuk> anybody know how to set boot parameter to config full width text console, I am using a 16:9 LCD
[03:05] <PeanutHorst> by the by
[03:05] <PeanutHorst> whoever told ubotu to tell me about X, is a moron :)
[03:05] <hmmz> hello all
[03:05] <un_operateur> does anyone know what the advantage of using UIDs to identify devices is ? for example  /dev/disk/by-uuid/5cbad96e-3464-47ea-bab5-b5d5f29a2894  over /dev/hda2  ?? I seem to have noticed grub do this lately --  /vmlinuz-2.6.20-2-386 root=UUID=5cbad96e-3464-47ea-bab5-b5d5f29a2894 ro single
[03:05] <PeanutHorst> i'm not newbie to linux, i've used it for years.
[03:06] <lupine_85> yuk: vga=ask
[03:06] <Seveas> !langauge | PeanutHorst
[03:06] <ubotu> PeanutHorst: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:06] <lupine_85> then take your pick
[03:06] <IdleOne> PeanutHorst, they were probably trying to help you. insulting ppl in a help channel wont get you much help
[03:06] <PeanutHorst> i avoided ubuntu until it was utterly necessary for precisely the reasons i'm having isues with today.
[03:06] <yuk> lupine_85: thx
[03:06] <Trist_an> hello there
[03:06] <Seveas> un_operateur, it's more reliable
[03:06] <chibiace> un_operateur: when i upgraded to edgy it was default in fstab. i dont understand it at all so its annoying
[03:06] <Seveas> un_operateur, especially when faced with dockingstations, or removable disks
[03:06] <lupine_85> un_operateur: if you switch from primary master to secondary slave, it doesn't care
[03:06] <hmmz> Hi all
[03:06] <PeanutHorst> well sorry, idleone, but i thought it was pretty clear that i wasn't a fool when it came to linuxen
[03:06] <lupine_85> however, it's a PITA to type out mnually in the kernel line
[03:07] <lupine_85> so I changed it all back :p
[03:07] <Trist_an> When I right click on a file and do send by e-mail, it doesn't work. I'm using kubuntu and I'd like to e-mail directly with thunderbird. Is it possible?
[03:07] <un_operateur> Seveas, reliable?? today when i boot up the UID is missing from /dev/disk/by-uuid but the traditional device is there in /dev/hda1
[03:07] <hmmz> could someone take a minute to give me a hand, please? Im compleatly new to linux and ubuntu and im stuck with something
[03:07] <biotrox> !codecs
[03:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:07] <Seveas> un_operateur, did you format the disk?
[03:07] <un_operateur> Seveas, caused me major grief
[03:07] <IdleOne> PeanutHorst, nobody said you are a fool. sometimes ppl only see part of a convo and jump in with what they can. say thank you and dont worry about the msg window :)
[03:07] <Trist_an> ak hmmz
[03:07] <JediMaster> hey guys, I'm trying to install 6.10 on to a pretty old machine (p3 735mhz, 64mb ram) but I can't actually get any further than X loading and the cursor coming up
[03:08] <un_operateur> Seveas, errm, would i expect a bootable system if i formatted the boot paritition? :)
[03:08] <pike_> Trist_an: you might get a quicker response in kubuntu  "/join kubuntu"
[03:08] <JediMaster> Is there a text only installer for older machines?
[03:08] <Seveas> un_operateur, people do crazier things ;)
[03:08] <lupine_85> !alternate | JediMaster
[03:08] <ubotu> JediMaster: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[03:08] <Seveas> un_operateur, anyway, you should file a bug
[03:08] <hmmz> Im trying to set a adsl router up and im getting nowhere
[03:08] <un_operateur> Seveas, point is -- i changed boot to use /dev/hda1 and i boot up and the very same UID there -- like magic it's come up
[03:08] <un_operateur> changed grub*
[03:08] <JediMaster> lupine_85: thanks, so it's a different cd?
[03:08] <lupine_85> yeah, afraid so
[03:09] <JediMaster> doh
[03:09] <PeanutHorst> IdleOne: well, safe graphics mode hung the kernel somehow
[03:09] <lupine_85> another 700MB of berylly goodness :s
[03:09] <PeanutHorst> (don't see why)
[03:09] <hmmz> anyone? :(
[03:09] <PeanutHorst> lupine_85: beryl? on ubuntu? you crazy, wolfdude?
[03:09] <PeanutHorst> :p
[03:09] <linda777> I dont see why there isn't an easy way to run it in text mode.
[03:09] <lupine_85> I'm only teh operat0r :p
[03:10] <IdleOne> PeanutHorst, call a friend who has a burner and get the alternate cd is all I can tell you. apperently there is no other way. afterwards you can apt-get a gnome or kde
[03:10] <PeanutHorst> linda777: because shuttleworth wanted to make ubuntu idiot-friendly.. er... user-friendly
[03:10] <PeanutHorst> and went overboard
[03:10] <PeanutHorst> :)
[03:10] <PeanutHorst> IdleOne: i'll keep my xfce 4.4 thankyou
[03:10] <PeanutHorst> :)
[03:10] <IdleOne> PeanutHorst,  whatever dude.
[03:10] <PeanutHorst> and i could possibly burn a cd... but i'd have to reboot to install the burner on my machine
[03:11] <lupine_85> IdleOne: wha? It installs ubuntu-desktop/kubuntu-deskop by default
[03:11] <PeanutHorst> and i'm too proud of my uptime :p
[03:11] <lupine_85> you're possibly thinking server CD
[03:11] <hmmz> I plug in my router adn try setting it up with the config thinger that comes up when i execute 'network-admin' in the terminal and i get nowhere whatever i try
[03:11] <hmmz> and*
[03:11] <un_operateur> PeanutHorst, you really do need the ubuntu artwork to use your desktop -- dont let anyone tell you otherwise :p
[03:11] <lupine_85> !install | PeanutHorst
[03:11] <ubotu> PeanutHorst: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[03:11] <IdleOne> lupine_85, yup
[03:11] <lupine_85> take your pick :p
[03:11] <linda777> PeanutHorst: Think I've got something for you.
[03:11] <PeanutHorst> un_operateur: -glare-
[03:11] <PeanutHorst> linda777: oh?
[03:12] <linda777> When you start the live CD, try "f4"
[03:12] <linda777> That should force VGA mode.
[03:12] <PeanutHorst> hmm
[03:12] <PeanutHorst> yes, i did that
[03:12] <hmmz> anyone have a suggestion as to what i do?
[03:12] <PeanutHorst> i think the problem isnt' that
[03:12] <PeanutHorst> it's that ubuntu is STUCK in vga mode
[03:12] <PeanutHorst> i need to change the Xorg resolution to 800*600*something
[03:12] <PeanutHorst> but not from the bootloader
[03:13] <linda777> And you can't get to the xorg config file?
[03:13] <gibbster> has anyone succeeded in using vpn with network-manager?
[03:13] <b4yu> ada yang berbhasa indonesia?
[03:13] <chibiace> gibbster: i think davyd has
[03:13] <lupine_85> PeanutHorst:  modifying the kernel boot line to include 'single' might work wonders for getting to xorg.conf
[03:14] <gibbster> o
[03:14] <PeanutHorst> lupine_85: why is that?
[03:14] <gibbster> chibiace: I guess he's not here though ;-(
[03:14] <chibiace> gibbster: check his blog. he had a post on it i think
[03:15] <lupine_85> well, because it'll dump you to text-mode
[03:15] <gibbster> chibiace: his blog? where is that?
[03:15] <hmmz> can anyone give me some advice as to what i should do?
[03:17] <nilleso> !find xfce
[03:17] <ubotu> Found: gtk2-engines-xfce, libxfce4mcs-client3, libxfce4mcs-dev, libxfce4mcs-manager3, libxfce4util-dev (and 50 others)
[03:17] <chibiace> gibbster google davyd, hes a gnome dev i believe
[03:17] <linda777> PeanutHorst's problem makes me feel petty worrying about this still, but does anyone have a clue about why my mouse wheel keeps stopping working? It will come back if I reboot. And it's working fine on my dark-side machine.
[03:17] <saharaab> what is xfce?
[03:17] <chibiace> its a desktop like kde and gnome
[03:18] <gibbster> chibiace: awesome. I'll give that a try
[03:18] <saharaab> wih gtk or Qt ??
[03:18] <chibiace> saharaab: but lighter, gtk i think
[03:18] <PeanutHorst> linda777: dark-side?
[03:18] <PeanutHorst> oh. that.
[03:18] <linda777> Windows. ;)
[03:18] <hmmz> could anyone please give me a hand?
[03:18] <pike_> linda777: well you shouldnt have to reboot. just alt-ctrl-bkspace
[03:19] <PeanutHorst> linda777: i call ubuntu the darkside myself
[03:19] <PeanutHorst> and try force restaring X
[03:19] <PeanutHorst> oh... yes, what pike_ said
[03:19] <PeanutHorst> :)
[03:19] <ken0> Can some of you chime in and tell me the IRC clients / bittorent clients you use?
[03:19] <linda777> That doesn't bring it back, pike
[03:19] <pike_> linda777: thats not good :)
[03:19] <linda777> I have to sometimes go do a reconfigure.
[03:19] <PeanutHorst> ken0: KVIrc, X-Chat, irssi for IRC, and KTorrent for bittorrent
[03:19] <linda777> Yet, I check the xorg.config file, and the setting has not changed.
[03:19] <_David_> chatzilla
[03:20] <PeanutHorst> linda777: do you use emacs?
[03:20] <_David_> firefox ext
[03:20] <loco_gr> ken0: irrsi/utorrent
[03:20] <linda777> PeanutHorst: Nope, I'm a pico girl.
[03:20] <ken0> loco_gr, utorrent over WINE, doesn't that look ugly?
[03:20] <PeanutHorst> omg! a girl on IRC! :p
[03:20] <thehumanerror> I use Gaim for IRC because I'm a noob
[03:20] <linda777> They allow one on per day. I just made it.
[03:20] <loco_gr> ken0: a little bit, but I don't care
[03:20] <PeanutHorst> lol linda777
[03:20] <PeanutHorst> i use pine
[03:20] <hmmz> ill go try again by my self i spose :(
[03:20] <PeanutHorst> for email
[03:20] <PeanutHorst> and sxemacs as my text editor
[03:20] <PeanutHorst> btw,
[03:21] <Seveas> !offtopic | PeanutHorst
[03:21] <ubotu> PeanutHorst: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:21] <thehumanerror> I use nano or vim I guess
[03:22] <linda777> But anyway -- is there some other config file that xorg could be pulling from?
[03:22] <PeanutHorst> Seveas: you remind me of someone annoying in #mandriva.... you an op in here? and are you the one that lurks in fn-s? i'm not trying to start a flamewar, i was stating fact.
[03:22] <PeanutHorst> linda777: if there is i'd like to know too
[03:22] <PeanutHorst> i need to get this sodding installer visible
[03:22] <linda777> I seem to remember reading something about a version that sits in ram.
[03:22] <linda777> And then goes away.
[03:22] <Seveas> PeanutHorst, I suggst you try to behave instead of calling people annoying
[03:23] <thehumanerror> I'm trying to use ext3 on a removable disc, what should I do regarding permissions and stuff to make it more usable?
[03:23] <gibbster> chibiace: keep on getting 'connection failed' unfortunately...
[03:24] <Seveas> thehumanerror, look at the permissions on /tmp, read/write by eeryone and the sticky bit set
[03:24] <PeanutHorst> Seveas: i'm having the bot thrown at me, and the bot is inanimate and a puppet...  anyhow, have you got any sage advice that relates to my problem perchance?
[03:24] <thehumanerror> won't the "root" permissions on the disc always be set on the mount point and not on the filesystem?
[03:24] <Seveas> thehumanerror, the setgid bit on the dir will help as well
[03:24] <thehumanerror> yeah, I had a quick look at /tmp for ideas
[03:24] <PeanutHorst> linda777: i'm going to try booting forom the existing linux system thta is on the laptop and seeing if i can manipulate ubuntu's installer from there
[03:25] <chibiace> gibbster: im not clear on how to set a vpn up. so unfortunately i cant help you.
[03:25] <thehumanerror> sorry, I've never used the sticky bit and the setgid bit
[03:25] <thehumanerror> what does the sticky bit do?
[03:25] <linda777> I'm googling the xorg.conf thing, meantime. It might solve both our problems.
[03:25] <Seveas> thehumanerror, a look at the chmod manpage and infopage will help, much better explanation than I can give :)
[03:25] <thehumanerror> OK, will do
[03:26] <gibbster> damn. Thanks anyway. Might be time to throw in the towel...
[03:26] <thehumanerror> but it's not information that's specifically relevant to removable devices. User names aren't stored in filesystems are they? Just UIDs? Which won't be the same on a different computer... not that that matters in this case
[03:27] <gibbster> Anyone here with experience setting up a pptp vpn network with network-manager?
[03:27] <Seveas> thehumanerror, correct
[03:27] <gibbster> Help save a poor lad from windows?
[03:27] <Seveas> thehumanerror, ext3 hasn't been designed for sharing removable disks between machines unfortunately
[03:27] <thehumanerror> Hmm, Ubuntu automounts the fs nicely, and even recognises that I can't do anything with it
[03:28] <thehumanerror> well, no filesystem has
[03:28] <thehumanerror> the only reason FAT works is because it doesn't have any permissions at all
[03:28] <Seveas> thehumanerror, well, the design mistakes in fat32 make it very suitable for this :)
[03:28] <thehumanerror> is that a design mistake? I would consider it a feature that was left out.
[03:29] <whyameye> gibbster: I could never get the open source vpn clients to work so I use the Cisco Systems vpnclient that my univ provided for us.
[03:29] <gibbster> whyameye: I was under the impression that cisco vpn was different from microsoft vpn
[03:29] <gibbster> whyameye: I could be wrong though...
[03:30] <satish> hi all
[03:30] <whyameye> gibbster: I have no idea on that sort of thing. I'm just wondering if whomever you are vpning into could provide the vpn client for you.
[03:30] <whyameye> gibbster: or are you setting up your own vpn client/server?
[03:30] <beowuff_> gibbster, I believe the default MS vpn uses PPTP and the Cisco uses IPSEC. However, I know on the MS side you can use IPSEC instead... Not sure how compatable they are.
[03:30] <satish> i am new to linux can any one help me ??
[03:31] <chibiace> satish: ask away
[03:31] <malikeye> !sparc
[03:31] <ubotu> Have a look here for Docs http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/install/sparc/ KnownIssues and TODO are on the wiki.
[03:31] <gibbster> whyameye: well, I'm kindof going on the fringe with my company. Really, I should be sticking with windows, so they don't really provide any linux clients
[03:31] <b1f30_w0rk>  merry x-mas or happy hannukah
[03:31] <PeanutHorst> r question
[03:32] <whyameye> gibbster: yeah I know all about that! :-) What are the clients they provide for Windows? MS?
[03:32] <PeanutHorst> erm... now i think i have a better question *    where on the ubuntu disc is the nistaller executable located?
[03:32] <hmmz> no luck with it, could someone please give me some help? :)
[03:32] <gibbster> beowuff_: well, I'm right beside a windows computer that has successfully set up this vpn connection, and it lists pptp
[03:32] <chibiace> PeanutHorst: is the one on the desktop a launcher?
[03:33] <gibbster> whyameye: I just use the default connection wizard on windows
[03:33] <PeanutHorst> chibiace: i've no idea
[03:33] <PeanutHorst> i'm browsing the file structure from thunar in zenwalk atm
[03:34] <chibiace> PeanutHorst: check the Install file on the desktop
[03:34] <gibbster> whyameye: ... it's a pity that I _really_ need vpn for my job.
[03:34] <whyameye> gibbster: so you have already Googled and tried stuff, right? 'Cause I just did a quick google search and there's a lot out there about this. For example: http://www.students.ncl.ac.uk/a.j.mee/blog/index.php/2005/11/21/networkmanager-pptp-vpn-support/
[03:34] <gibbster> whyameye: yeah, I tried the usual advice
[03:35] <gibbster> whyameye: but I keep on getting VPN Connect Failure
[03:35] <stickyicky> is there a tool similar to fedora's chkconfig for ubuntu?
[03:35] <beowuff_> gibbster, Cisco may also be able to be set up with PPTP as an option. I'm not that familiar with Cisco VPNs. Wouldn't surprise me though.
[03:36] <PeanutHorst> chibiace: where's the desktop oon the cd lol
[03:36] <hmmz> for an adsl router to work on ubuntu it has to use pppoe, right?
[03:36] <satish>  i have installed ubuntu 6.06 on my old system with cel 1ghz processor 810e mobo 256 mb ram 40 gb hdd but it took around 2 hrs to install and now it takes 15 to 20 min and 10 min to shutdown plus somtime it even dosent start can i know where i may b wrong
[03:36] <chibiace> PeanutHorst: cant you start it? and ssh to it while its running?
[03:37] <gibbster> beowolf_: hmm. worth a try
[03:37] <PeanutHorst> no i can't chibiace
[03:37] <PeanutHorst> i'm on the same computer
[03:37] <hmmz> can anyone please help me?
[03:38] <PeanutHorst> but i'm using a cut down version of slackwar now that was already installe
[03:38] <PeanutHorst> d
[03:38] <chibiace> satish: the install time is probably about right, it varies. but that shutdown time is not right
[03:38] <PeanutHorst> and i want to install ubuntu over it
[03:38] <Vuen> hey all, is there an open source software for calendar sharing?
[03:38] <Vuen> like for an office to have a shared calendar/organizer across the network?
[03:38] <PeanutHorst> Vuen: evolution maybe?
[03:39] <loco_gr> Vuen: http://www.phpgroupware.org/
[03:39] <hmmz> ohh nevermind, im going
[03:39] <loco_gr> Vuen: http://www.egroupware.org/
[03:39] <geokok> hi. how can I add dictionaries in OO?
[03:40] <whyameye> gibbster: this looks interesting. Other than that...not sure how to help. :-( http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/
[03:40] <gibbster> whyameye: yeah, tried that :-(
[03:40] <gibbster> whyameye: thanks for the help, though
[03:41] <chibiace> PeanutHorst: how are you even having problems with your display, it should work perfectly :(
[03:41] <Vuen> thanks loco_gr, this is perfect
[03:41] <loco_gr> Vuen: ;)
[03:41] <gibbster> whyameye: I'll putter around for a few more hours. Failing that, you'll probably see me drop in the forum again when feisty comes out :-(
[03:41] <PeanutHorst> chibiace: i can't explain
[03:41] <PeanutHorst> the machine is a bit past its prime okay?
[03:42] <whyameye> gibbster: have you tried the Cisco vpnclient? Might be worth a shot...
[03:42] <chibiace> PeanutHorst: you have onboard graphics?
[03:43] <chibiace> PeanutHorst: or a spare graphics card?
[03:44] <gibbster> whyameye: ugh. Yeah, I guess. something I wanted to avoid though
[03:44] <whyameye> gibbster: do you know what the server is running? It is Cisco?
[03:45] <PeanutHorst> chibiace: it's a laptop.
[03:45] <PeanutHorst> a toshiba satellite 2060cds
[03:45] <marius__> Hey I've got a little problem with a "software updates" window that's stuck and won't close, how can I fix this?
[03:45] <chibiace> PeanutHorst: i'll google
[03:45] <PeanutHorst> it's got an S3 Savage i think
[03:45] <PeanutHorst> or possible a Virge/MX
[03:45] <PeanutHorst> one of the two
[03:45] <gibbster> whyameye: I'm pretty sure it's a pptp server. Other than that I don't know
[03:47] <chibiace> my first result for that laptop is a page for linux on it, read that?
[03:47] <PeanutHorst> chibiace: no
[03:47] <PeanutHorst> it relates to red hat 6.0
[03:48] <PeanutHorst> i've seen that page before
[03:48] <PeanutHorst> and it's years old
[03:48] <PeanutHorst> the graphics controller is a s3 vige/MX rev. 06
[03:48] <PeanutHorst> s/vige/Virge/g
[03:49] <PeanutHorst> but thanksfor the pointer chibiace
[03:50] <PeanutHorst> what i need is to know the structure of the ubuntu desktop cd
[03:50] <chibiace> can you select a lower resolution at the install prompt
[03:51] <x-r00t-x> hello. can anyone tell me . how do i make my terminal so colorful
[03:51] <PeanutHorst> chibiace: no, i've got it as low as it wil lgo
[03:51] <x-r00t-x> ?
[03:52] <PeanutHorst> but for goodness sakes,. i'm in a linux now, i need to know where on the ubuntu disc the installer program is
[03:52] <chibiace> PeanutHorst: any boot options for graphics that you havent tried?
[03:53] <AZOTo> I would like to test my graphics card. Someone can help me finding a good 3d game or demo ?
[03:54] <pike_> AZOTo: tremulous
[03:54] <pike_> AZOTo: tremulous.info
[03:54] <AZOTo> pike_, tanks
[03:54] <alper> hi guys, how can I unpack rar-files?
[03:55] <HymnToLife> !rar
[03:55] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[03:55] <chibiace> AZOTo: neverball is also fun for 3d but its not at all needy, doom 3 is good
[03:55] <yrlnry> You can install a program called "unrar" using synaptic package manager.
[03:55] <alper> !info unrar-free
[03:55] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[03:55] <x-r00t-x> !terminal
[03:55] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[03:55] <pike_> AZOTo: if you really want to put it through its paces maybe the quake4 demo for linux but tremulous is a great free fps
[03:56] <AZOTo> doom 3. where ?
[03:56] <frogzoo> is there any way to change the colours in evolution? visited links are red, and on a green background, are hard to see
[03:56] <chibiace> AZOTo: from the store :P
[03:56] <AZOTo> :)
[03:56] <chibiace> AZOTo: q4 demo would be great
[03:56] <AZOTo> Something... free ? ;)
[03:56] <frogzoo> AZOTo: doom 3 can be got to run, the engine you d/l for free - the wads you need from a licenced cd
[03:56] <PeanutHorst> chibiace: the ones which i know would be suicide
[03:57] <PeanutHorst> like 1280*1024 and 1600*1200
[03:57] <chibiace> PeanutHorst: have you tried them?
[03:57] <AZOTo> I'lll try quake 4 demo . tanks
[03:57] <chibiace> AZOTo: enemyterritory is fun but not intensive either
[03:58] <x-r00t-x> hello. can anyone tell me . how do i make my terminal so colorful
[03:58] <PeanutHorst> chibiace: no, because i have no intention of needeing to call the bomb squad :p
[03:58] <PeanutHorst> i'll try
[03:58] <PeanutHorst> 'abend, DieRatte
[03:58] <Fragged> Slackware pwnz all
[03:58] <DieRatte> moin moin
[03:58] <chibiace> PeanutHorst: it cant be that bad.
[03:58] <PeanutHorst> Fragged: agreed
[03:58] <frogzoo> AZOTo: btw, doom 2 runs fine as well
[03:58] <c8n> have any of you installed unreal tournament 2003 on ubuntu?
[03:58] <PeanutHorst> chibiace: how do i know that?
[03:58] <PeanutHorst> :p
[03:58] <HymnToLife> Fragged, define "pwnz"...
[03:58] <AZOTo> doom 2? tanks frogzoo
[03:58] <c8n> eek
[03:59] <chibiace> PeanutHorst: we're not paying you to think :P
[03:59] <chibiace> PeanutHorst: uh know
[03:59] <chibiace> Bed!
[03:59] <chibiace> ciao
[03:59] <Fragged> HymnToLife: well, it doesnt hold your dick while you piss for one : /
[03:59] <scifi> hi guys, i havent booted into ubuntu for a while. it doesnt seem to have found any updates though. can someone remind me of the command to check for updates?
[04:00] <Fragged> scifi www.kernel.org
[04:00] <frogzoo> scifi: check in synaptic's options for enabling updates
[04:00] <PeanutHorst> chibi?
[04:00] <HymnToLife> scifi, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:00] <scifi> o now its suddenly giving me updates pop-up
[04:00] <alper> guys i got UNRAR and want to unrar something, which command do i need
[04:01] <Fragged> alper "man unrar"
[04:01] <scifi> 32 packages
[04:01] <alper> oh i should have mentioned that its unrar-free and im using ubuntu 6.10 Fragged
[04:01] <alper> i installed it over synatpic thingy
[04:01] <Fragged> oh, why use ubuntu, slackware pwnz ^^,
[04:01] <pike_> alper: for a simple extract "unrar e filename.rar"  btw use nonfree
[04:02] <alper> why? do i needa pay for it? :o
[04:02] <joelliot> alper : unrar e <file>
[04:02] <joelliot> will extract to current directory
[04:02] <alper> thx
[04:02] <DieRatte> that will unload a lot of files in local dir
[04:02] <alper> lemme check
[04:02] <DieRatte> use x
[04:03] <jeeves_Moss> all:  can anyone help me with getting my USB GPS to work?
[04:03] <AngryElf_> does anyone have a recommendation for a GUI FTP client other than gFTP?
[04:03] <frogzoo> jeeves_Moss: you running that against gpsd ?
[04:04] <frogzoo> AngryElf_: apt-cache search ftp
[04:04] <AngryElf_> frogzoo: yea, thanx, that brings up several hundred listings
[04:04] <pike_> AngryElf_: honestly either nautilus or cli. maybe midnight commander but thats terminal too
[04:04] <scifi> im running dapper drake at the mo, im guessing we've moved to a newer version now?
[04:04] <jeeves_Moss> frogzoo:  yes, GPSD is installed, I just don't understand the syntax on how to make it work.  I guess what I need is someone to walk me through it step by step and explain what each step does
[04:04] <frogzoo> scifi: edgy 6.10 is latest desktop release
[04:05] <ctkroeker> scifi: yes, it's called edgy eft
[04:05] <scifi> nice
[04:05] <lupine_85> AngryElf_: kftp :p
[04:05] <lupine_85> firefox also has an extension
[04:05] <scifi> i suspect these updates will upgrade my kernel too
[04:05] <lupine_85> scifi: 2.6.17-10
[04:06] <mzli> scifi: you can make kernel it yourself
[04:06] <biotrox> !flash
[04:06] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:06] <frogzoo> jeeves_Moss: I think you have some reading to do
[04:06] <mzli> scifi: latest is 2.6.19
[04:06] <jeeves_Moss> frogzoo:  any sudgestions on a URL?
[04:06] <biotrox> !plugins flash
[04:06] <frogzoo> jeeves_Moss: tried 'man gpsd' ?
[04:06] <biotrox> !alien
[04:06] <scifi> ok after these updates have installed shall i do sudo apt-get upgrade?
[04:06] <jeeves_Moss> frogzoo:  also, how cna I force the delete of a directory that's not empty from shell?
[04:07] <lupine_85> scifi: dist-upgrade, but yeah
[04:07] <frogzoo> jeeves_Moss: rm -rf dir
[04:07] <scifi> k thx
[04:07] <jeeves_Moss> frogzoo:  thanks.
[04:07] <lupine_85> make sure [k|x] ubuntu-desktop is installed before and after
[04:07] <frogzoo> jeeves_Moss: yw
[04:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about plugins flash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:07] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[04:07] <scifi> lupine_85: that for me?
[04:07] <lupine_85> scifi: yes
[04:08] <scifi> lupine_85: k, can i check for that in synaptic?
[04:08] <lupine_85> yep
[04:08] <jeeves_Moss> frogzoo:  I'll be back, I have to reboot after the last update
[04:09] <scifi> i take it theyve implemented that new x interface in this version? i forget what its called
[04:09] <pike_> guys, i need to learn mysql in less than 8 hrs what should i do?
[04:09] <DieRatte> pike_, heh,
[04:10] <DieRatte> pike_, give up now
[04:10] <scifi> pike_: depends how much u need to know
[04:10] <scifi> pike_: mysql is pretty straightforward
[04:10] <lupine_85> SELECT * WHERE FOO = BAR
[04:10] <lupine_85> you're done
[04:10] <frogzoo> pike_: you can install mysql in a couple of hours, and 4 hours is enough to get some sql familiarity
[04:11] <frogzoo> pike_: actually installing mysql takes like 5 minutes
[04:11] <scifi> now php.... thats something i dont think i'll ever grasp :P
[04:11] <osfameron> yeah, depends on what you know and what you need to know
[04:11] <ctkroeker> scifi: yeah, php is something I'm gonna have to work at
[04:12] <scifi> ctkroeker: i need a really good step-by-step book
[04:12] <pike_> i need to be able to troubleshoot obscure problems across different script lang and platforms.. so 4 hrs right?
[04:12] <lupine_85> lol
[04:12] <lupine_85> not a chance
[04:12] <pike_> better get to it
[04:12] <scifi> lmao
[04:12] <lupine_85> 4 years maybe
[04:12] <diezare> I want to enable the swap memory, how?
[04:12] <frogzoo> pike_: give up now dude
[04:12] <lupine_85> swapon -a
[04:12] <scifi> lol@lupine
[04:13] <jonass> when pressing alt+f1 to get console i only get a weird screen
[04:13] <B|LAL> hi ... i have installed RealPlayer how do i play .wmv and other video extension files ??? i have w32codecs installed and VLC etc ... i can play only in xine player i wanna use real player for all type of extensions of vidoes
[04:13] <paolob-parroquia> Hi guys! How do I listen to this radio in edgy: http://sc5.audiorealm.com:11226 ? thank you
[04:13] <scifi> add a 1 in front of that 4 in my case probly :P
[04:13] <lupine_85> jonass: ctrl+alt+f1
[04:13] <jonass> does not work ctrl+alt+f1
[04:13] <scifi> ok updates have installed, need a reboot. brb
[04:13] <jonass> only strange colored screen
[04:14] <ctkroeker> scifi: go ahead
[04:14] <B|LAL> wat do u wanna do jonass
[04:14] <diezare> lupine_85, swapon: /dev/disk/by-uuid/5f202c69-f503-4b73-9ab0-d058943005b3: Invalid argument
[04:14] <jonass> get console with ctrl alt f1
[04:15] <frogzoo> jonass: can you get back to the gui with ctrl alt f7?
[04:15] <Vaske_Car> how to check if Ubuntu detect my printer at all?
[04:15] <jonass> i can get back
[04:15] <sandeep>  /j #ubuntu-ap
[04:15] <frogzoo> Vaske_Car: try to print ;)
[04:15] <B|LAL> alt+f1 activates the Applications etc menu .... from there u can select Accessories and Terminal ...
[04:15] <Vaske_Car> frogzoo, it wont print
[04:15] <B|LAL> jonass:
[04:15] <frogzoo> jonass: take a look at tail  /var/log/messages  & see if there's anything odd
[04:16] <jonass> xserver work but not normal console with alt ctrl f1
[04:16] <frogzoo> Vaske_Car: have you added the printer? sys -> admin -> printers
[04:16] <ubuntuuser> whats a good game to play on ubuntu?
[04:16] <rogue780> I'm trying to install openchrome drivers, and it is telling me to go to the linux-core directory. can someone tell me where that is please?
[04:16] <phrozen77> hi all
[04:16] <Vaske_Car> frogzoo, the CUPS server could not be contacted
[04:17] <B|LAL> sandeep:  go to System Administration Device Manager ... check it there...
[04:17] <frogzoo> ubuntuuser: lincity-ng, maelstrom
[04:17] <rogue780> !linux-core
[04:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linux-core - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:17] <jonass> nothing to find in /var/log/messages
[04:17] <diezare> How can I enable the swap memory?
[04:17] <frogzoo> Vaske_Car: sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart
[04:17] <rogue780> I'm trying to install openchrome drivers, and it is telling me to go to the linux-core directory. can someone tell me where that is please?
[04:17] <scifi> whats that dist-upgrade command again?
[04:17] <x-r00t-x> hello. can anyone tell me . how do i make my terminal so colorful?
[04:17] <B|LAL> diezare:  u do that when installtion ubuntu ...
[04:18] <B|LAL> scifi:  sudo apt-get update
[04:18] <B|LAL> and then
[04:18] <B|LAL> scifi:  sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:18] <scifi> ty
[04:18] <frogzoo> diezare: best put a line in /etc/fstab that refers to your swap partition, then 'sudo swapon -a'
[04:18] <B|LAL> for dist ...
[04:18] <B|LAL> do ...
[04:18] <diezare> B|LAL, I did so. And it was activated but when I updated my distro. it was disabled.
[04:18] <ubuntuuser> good first person shooter?
[04:18] <diezare> frogzoo, thnx
[04:19] <ChaosR> hi
[04:19] <phrozen77> whats the latest kernel for an amd64 in edgy eft?
[04:19] <HymnToLife> phrozen77, 2.6.17
[04:19] <ChaosR> can anyone help me with amarok, it won't produce any sound when playing music, xine can't initialize th sound engine
[04:19] <phrozen77> then i wonder why it hasnt been upgraded, going from dapper..
[04:19] <HymnToLife> it has
[04:20] <HymnToLife> Dapper has a 2.6.15
[04:20] <phrozen77> root@ubuntu60664m:~# uname -a
[04:20] <phrozen77> Linux ubuntu60664m 2.6.15-26-amd64-server #1 SMP Fri Sep 8 20:33:15 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[04:20] <rogue780> I'm trying to install openchrome drivers, and it is telling me to go to the linux-core directory. can someone tell me where that is please?
[04:20] <phrozen77> HymnToLife: also, there are no new kernels in /boot after the dist-upgrade
[04:20] <thehumanerror> I've just found out something awesome about chmod, I think
[04:20] <scifi> how do i check kernel version now?
[04:20] <thehumanerror> uname
[04:20] <phrozen77> scifi: uname -a
[04:20] <thehumanerror> yeah, that's what I meant
[04:20] <thehumanerror> :)
[04:21] <frogzoo> !amarok | ChaosR have you installed all the drivers n stuff?
[04:21] <ubotu> ChaosR have you installed all the drivers n stuff?: amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.4 for Edgy and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org
[04:21] <thehumanerror> I was't being too helpful though:)
[04:21] <scifi> 2.6.15-27-386
[04:21] <scifi> hmm
[04:21] <HymnToLife> phrozen77, try to install the new version manually with apt-get/synaptic/aptitude/whatever
[04:21] <frogzoo> ChaosR: not a very good ref that, 1/2 a sec
[04:21] <scifi> thats not the latest kernel is it? even tho ive ran all updates and upgrades
[04:21] <rogue780> nevermind
[04:21] <B|LAL>  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade...
[04:21] <thehumanerror> wtf, my kernel is SMP?
[04:21] <ChaosR> frogzoo: I've installed it using the add/remove in the menu
[04:21] <Drakus> hello   looking for advice on getting my synaptics touchpad and drapper on amd64 to work optimaly
[04:21] <HymnToLife> scifi, if running Dapper, it is
[04:21] <thehumanerror> is the normal i386 kernel SMP?
[04:21] <frogzoo> ChaosR: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[04:21] <phrozen77> HymnToLife: yah, thats what i was going to do - though i wonder why it isnt upgraded with the dist-upgrade
[04:22] <scifi> B|LAL: i did that too, nothign new found
[04:22] <HymnToLife> thehumanerror, no, there is no such thing as a SMP 386
[04:22] <HymnToLife> SMP is 686 (Intel) or k8 (AMD)
[04:22] <diezare> frogzoo, # /dev/sda2 -- converted during upgrade to edgy
[04:22] <diezare> UUID=5f202c69-f503-4b73-9ab0-d058943005b3 none swap sw 0 0
[04:22] <erUSUL> rogue780: linux-kernel you mean? install linux-headers
[04:23] <diezare> frogue780, this is what appears in the fstab.
[04:23] <scifi> guys  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade isnt finding the new distribution ^^
[04:23] <B|LAL> scifi:  what do you wanna do ? upgrade to edgy ? for that u have to do few minor changes
[04:23] <rogue780> no...it was the linux-core directory....and I'd rather not talk about my stupidity on this one...
[04:23] <frogzoo> diezare: what's 'swapon -s' say?
[04:23] <scifi> B|LAL: yes upgrade to edgy. as long as thats a stable release and not still in development?
[04:24] <B|LAL> alrite ... wait scifi
[04:24] <B|LAL> gimme a sec
[04:24] <diezare> frogzoo, nothing
[04:24] <scifi> k
[04:24] <frogzoo> diezare: tried 'sudo swapon -a' ?
[04:24] <diezare> ya, swapon: /dev/disk/by-uuid/5f202c69-f503-4b73-9ab0-d058943005b3: Invalid argument
[04:25] <frogzoo> diezare: blkid |grep sda2
[04:26] <phrozen77> HymnToLife: can you tell me the package-name of the amd64-kernel?
[04:26] <diezare> frogzoo, /dev/evms/sda2: TYPE="swap"
[04:26] <diezare> /dev/sda2: UUID="5f202c69-f503-4b73-9ab0-d058943005b3" TYPE="swap"
[04:27] <HymnToLife> phrozen77, http://packages.ubuntu.com will tell you, I don't remember it
[04:27] <phrozen77> heh, thats why i'm asking - i cant find it there :P
[04:27] <Jopie> I'm installing Ubuntu Server, and it
[04:27] <linda777> PeanutHorst: I've attentended an entire planning meeting and had my snack -- surely you're in 800 x 600 mode by now?
[04:28] <HymnToLife> hmm
[04:28] <Jopie> *and it's stuck on the step configuring apt - scanning the mirror... this is the second time i;ve tried and it will constantly hang at this step...
[04:28] <HymnToLife> seems it's the generic one
[04:28] <frogzoo> diezare: 'sudo swapon /dev/sda2'
[04:29] <ChaosR> frogzoo: as far as i can see, i've installed the correct drivers
[04:29] <frogzoo> ChaosR: did you read that link?
[04:29] <goomie> I got an app im trying to install and its asking for the path of a valid jve?  I installed the one from ubuntuguide.org how do i figure out the path?
[04:29] <ChaosR> frogzoo: yes
[04:30] <scifi> shall i just run gksu "update-manager -c" as the wiki suggests to upgrade?
[04:30] <frogzoo> ChaosR: soz, this is more relevant: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[04:30] <Vox754> !swapon
[04:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swapon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:31] <diezare> frogzoo, swapon: /dev/sda2: Invaild argument
[04:31] <scifi> anyone?
[04:31] <Vox754> Any way to control the pointer with the Keyboard, like in Windows?
[04:33] <B|LAL> scifi:  have u enabled multi and universe ?
[04:33] <Drakus> looking to clean up operation of synaptics touchpad on amd64 dapper
[04:33] <frogzoo> diezare: ok - are you absolutely completely 100% positive that this is a swap partition and there's no data on it ? 'sudo fdisk -l |grep sd2'
[04:33] <biotrox> ethreal
[04:34] <biotrox> !ethereal
[04:34] <ubotu> ethereal: dummy upgrade package for ethereal -> wireshark. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.3a-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 20 kB, installed size 60 kB
[04:34] <ExM3th1x> does anybody have an idea about installing this driver?:
[04:34] <biotrox> how to install ethereal
[04:34] <ExM3th1x> http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=1&PFid=1&Level=6&Conn=5&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true#RTL8187L
[04:34] <biotrox> ???
[04:35] <Jopie> Ok, i'm installing Ubuntu server and what idiot designed the codeset dialog box? how on earth am I to choose the correct one, the dialog box goes off screen!
[04:35] <B|LAL> scifi:  i have done it at my other laptop ...had to do some minor changes in a sources file was basically removing drapper name to edgy .. guide was on ubuntu main page ... its not there any more ... but when i do dist-upgrade on this laptop  its also upgrading it ... check ur multi & and universe are enabled or not
[04:35] <Jopie> Can anyone tell me what the options are for the codeset dialog box, I can only see the first 6 items...
[04:36] <scifi> B|LAL: i ran gksu "update-manager -c" it mentioned  my source files but said i can alter them after the upgrade
[04:36] <goomie> biotrox: sudo apt-get install ethereal
[04:37] <goomie> biotrox: except i think its now called wireshark
[04:37] <biotrox> i did that
[04:37] <goomie> biotrox: word
[04:37] <biotrox> it said conflicting with another package
[04:38] <goomie> biotrox: did you do sudo apt-get install wireshark
[04:38] <goomie> ?
[04:38] <varon> hello, my english is not so good, but in my country-channel there have no ideas
[04:38] <biotrox> i also had done that goomie :( but it said the exactly same thing
[04:38] <biotrox> conflicting
[04:40] <varon> can somebody help me with ralink-driver and an usb-stick?
[04:40] <goomie> biotrox: if you type ethereal or wireshark does it start the program or did it not even download it?
[04:40] <kpel> varon: don't know about the ralink thing. what's wrong with the stick?
[04:40] <Vox754> !ralink
[04:40] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:40] <biotrox> goomie | please see the result of apt-get install wireshark http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38378/
[04:42] <varon> kpel: i cant connect to access-point. (wpa-psk tkip)
[04:42] <varon> if i do iwlist wlan0 scanning, i can see the ap
[04:43] <x-r00t-x> can anyone tell me how do i make so colorful terminal texts
[04:43] <biotrox> goomie | how am i able to install ethereal?
[04:44] <kpel> varon: no idea about wlan. i thought you have also an issue with a usb stick. is that true?
[04:44] <stickyicky> what file maps nt usernames w/unix usernames for samba?
[04:45] <goomie> biotrox: try sudo apt-get -f install
[04:45] <biotrox> did that too
[04:45] <biotrox> same result
[04:45] <janelau> I got a .deb files. Now, IF I install it with dpkg, wouild aptitude "know" about it?
[04:46] <varon> kepl: i have only an usb-stick, and i found my access-point with it
[04:46] <goomie> try typing wireshark , does the program run i dont think wireshark depends on java
[04:47] <kpel> varon: ah, that kind of usb-stick. i thought you had a separate issue with a stick-like usb storage device
[04:47] <computermc> I'm having this error after trying to install easy ubuntu. E: The package easyubuntu needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. How do I fix this?
[04:47] <goomie> biotrox: otherwise try sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin
[04:48] <goomie> biotrox: then try sudo apt-get -f install and then sudo apt-get install wireshark
[04:48] <varon> kpel, yes but if i remove the stick nothing changed
[04:49] <Vox754> How do I "reset" the sound system? Sometimes, I start the computer with no sound at all ("cannot write to device"), and the only option so far is to power down-power up again the PC.
[04:49] <stickyicky> where does ubuntu store its smbpasswd data file?
[04:50] <Vox754> !usb
[04:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:51] <bracco> hello, i've got problems converting mp3-->wav, it tooks very long time (22 min for 16 songs)
[04:52] <HymnToLife> bracco, why do you want to do such a thing ?
[04:52] <goomie> agreed
[04:52] <HymnToLife> if you want to burn theml as audio CDs, just let your burning app (k3b) do it
[04:52] <phrozen77> anyone could give me a hint why ubuntu boots the old kernel, after upgrading to 2.6.17? symlinks in /boot have been set to the new kernel
[04:52] <Rug> Howdy all
[04:53] <Vox754> !grub
[04:53] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:53] <computermc> I'm having this error after trying to install easy ubuntu. E: The package easyubuntu needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. How do I fix this?
[04:53] <bracco> HymnToLife, I've to restore my bk copies with gnomebaker
[04:53] <Vox754> !install
[04:53] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[04:53] <phrozen77> also, lilo is set to boot the vmlinuz symlink
[04:53] <HymnToLife> bracco, screw gnomebaker and get k3b :)
[04:53] <Vox754> !lilo
[04:53] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[04:53] <goomie> biotrox: any luck?
[04:54] <biotrox> no
[04:54] <bracco> HymnToLife, ok
[04:54] <ChaosR> plz, someone help me, how can i get amarok to work
[04:54] <biotrox> goomie | still have the same problem
[04:54] <phrozen77> Vox754: well - its a dedicated server that cam preinstalled the way it is, so i *have* to deal with lilo for now
[04:54] <biotrox> Chaosr | amarok work with..?
[04:54] <ChaosR> i'll explain what happens
[04:55] <rogue780|ssh> howdiddly do
[04:55] <goomie> biotrox: were u getting that dependancy problem before you tried to download wireshark?
[04:55] <biotrox> no
[04:55] <phrozen77> http://rafb.net/p/AnDeLJ91.html <- anyone has a hint?
[04:56] <buis01> greetings
[04:56] <lupine_85> phrozen77: use grub instead
[04:56] <ChaosR> if i select any audio engine except for alsa (with xine) it gives no error, but when i play something i hear nothing, when i select alsa it complains about not being able to initialize the sound driver
[04:56] <lupine_85> ?
[04:56] <phrozen77> meh
[04:56] <jonass> howto copy an audio cd with edgy?
[04:56] <lupine_85> :p
[04:56] <phrozen77> and exactly HOW would that help?
[04:56] <lone_wolf> whats a good ubuntu prog to 'backup' dvd's?
[04:56] <lupine_85> !info dvdshrink
[04:56] <buis01> I need some help using synaptic to upgrade my system
[04:56] <HymnToLife> jonass, I personnaly use abcde to do this
[04:56] <ubotu> Package dvdshrink does not exist in any distro I know
[04:56] <HymnToLife> !info abcde
[04:56] <ubotu> abcde: A Better CD Encoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.3.99.5-1 (edgy), package size 103 kB, installed size 300 kB
[04:57] <jonass> and cd burner?
[04:57] <biotrox> ChaosR | try read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-74857744ddf74499c6447a19c7e94a2fcb382e0c
[04:57] <HymnToLife> !info l3b
[04:57] <ubotu> Package l3b does not exist in any distro I know
[04:57] <lupine_85> !k3b
[04:57] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[04:57] <HymnToLife> !info k3b
[04:57] <ubotu> k3b: A sophisticated KDE CD burning application. In component main, is optional. Version 0.12.17-1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 3975 kB, installed size 8432 kB
[04:57] <lupine_85> ++
[04:57] <lone_wolf> ty ty
[04:58] <biotrox> goomie | i just installed ubuntu today, and adding plugins to play my mp3,wmv,Xvid, divx, dat, ogg
[04:58] <biotrox> goomie | i installed gxine, gstreamer, etc etc
[04:58] <Gosha> gtk+ (2.0.+) is installed by default, right?
[04:58] <jeeves_Moss> frogzoo:  you still here?
[04:58] <Gosha> !gtk+
[04:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gtk+ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:58] <Gosha> !gtk
[04:58] <ubotu> GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of Gnome and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI
[04:58] <bobus182> Hello room
[04:58] <biotrox> and when i start firefox i notice that there's isn't plugin for the flash or java
[04:59] <tdog> hello, i tested knoppix live CD, and one thing i like is that when you start the system female voice say "" initiating startup sequence , also initiating shotdown sequence durining shotdown , iwas wondring if you know where i can find those sounds and how i can add that to my ubuntu ??? i would be greatfull
[04:59] <biotrox> than i installed them both
[04:59] <HymnToLife> biotrox, install them, then :)
[04:59] <Gosha> !GIMP
[04:59] <ubotu> An advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[04:59] <Gosha> !GUI
[04:59] <ubotu> The graphical user interface (GUI) in Ubuntu is composed of many elements, including the !X server, a window manager, and a desktop environment such as !GNOME or !KDE (which themselves use the !GTK and !Qt toolkits respectively)
[04:59] <phrozen77> anyone could give me a hint why ubuntu boots the old kernel, after upgrading to 2.6.17? symlinks in /boot have been set to the new kernel, also lilo.conf seems to be ok to me... http://rafb.net/p/AnDeLJ91.html
[04:59] <lynucs> anyone knows how to set alsamixer's volume more then 100% ? just couldn't answer that question today
[04:59] <biotrox> and when i installed ethereal the dependency problem appears
[04:59] <HymnToLife> !botabuse | Gosha
[04:59] <ubotu> Gosha: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[04:59] <biotrox> :(
[04:59] <jeeves_Moss> all:  any one here good with GPSD?
[05:00] <jeeves_Moss> all:  also, has any one got the flashy features of Gnome3 to work?
[05:00] <lynucs> or how to set up alsamixer, so that the current 100% of volume would count as e.g. just 30%, to be able to set volume higher??
[05:01] <Gosha> .. whatthe .. so i do have gtk+ installed .. why does the configure command say i dont?
[05:01] <HymnToLife> jeeves_Moss, features ? GNOME 3 ?
[05:01] <PingunZ> Is someone willing to help me with a dynamic dns ( freedns ) ?
[05:01] <Gosha> checking for GTK... configure: WARNING: cannot find GTK+-2.0, player will be disabled <--
[05:01] <biotrox> if u use bind i can help u :D
[05:01] <ssam> Gosha, you probably need the gtk dev package
[05:01] <Gosha> can it be because i have xubuntu installed and it messed something upp?
[05:02] <Gosha> gtk dev was it. synaptic?
[05:02] <ssam> Gosha, what are you trying to build
[05:02] <jps__> has anyone tried to install ubuntu and kubuntu on the same machine as dual boot? i like them both, but i don't like to install one on top of another since the menus become full of apps...
[05:02] <Gosha> swfdec
[05:02] <phrozen77> anyone could give me a hint why ubuntu boots the old kernel, after upgrading to 2.6.17? symlinks in /boot have been set to the new kernel, also lilo.conf seems to be ok to me... http://rafb.net/p/AnDeLJ91.html
[05:02] <goomie> biotrox: maybe give sudo apt-get install libadns1 wireshark-common
[05:03] <Gosha> ... it said the same thing on some other conf script
[05:03] <wijnand> jps__: i don't know about kubuntu but in ubuntu i can make apps "invisible" in the menu
[05:03] <ssam> Gosha, it will be in synaptic, i think its called something like libgtk2-dev, but you'll have to search
[05:03] <goomie> biotrox: also i think sudo apt-get clean removes those dependancy messages (not sure but im pretty sure)
[05:03] <Gosha> gtk dev = ?
[05:03] <ssam> Gosha, or try 'sudo apt-get build-dep swfdec'
[05:03] <biotrox> wait the last thing is make sense
[05:03] <jeeves_Moss> HymToLife: before I upgraded to Gnome3, I heard that there was to be animated icons, and a flashy way to switch between desktops.
[05:03] <biotrox> i'll try it
[05:03] <ssam> Gosha, that should install everything you need
[05:04] <Graou> hi everyone, I was wondering how to display trash on Desktop (Gnome) can anyone help me? (msg maybe)
[05:04] <goomie> biotrox: it looks like those 2 files for wireshark didnt get installed
[05:04] <biotrox> yes i think you are right
[05:04] <Gosha> E: Unable to find a source package for swfdec / E: Unable to find a source package for swfdec-0.3.6 <-- wee
[05:04] <jps__> wijnand.. yeah .. but i thought dual boot would help me evaluate gnome and kde better with their defaut options
[05:04] <PingunZ> Is there any documentation on settting up a dynamic dns in ubuntu ? ( I have already installed LAMP and registred my dns domain ) I just need somekind of script to update my ip  ( I'm using freedns )
[05:05] <wijnand> jps__: that shouldn't be the case, but i don't see any reason why you can't dualboot them
[05:05] <mralphabet> jps__: that's just wacky
[05:05] <biotrox> goomie I think you fixed my problem just now
[05:05] <ssam> Graou, in gconf-editor change /apps/nautilus/desktop/trash_icon_visible
[05:05] <biotrox> goomie Thanks
[05:05] <goomie> biotrox: MERRY CHRISTMAS
[05:06] <biotrox> merry christmas
[05:06] <ssam> Gosha, then you'll have to look in synaptic
[05:06] <goomie> biotrox: sniff packets with all your heart
[05:06] <biotrox> :))
[05:06] <wijnand> jps__: only thing you have to realise is that the installers probably won't add the right entries to grub by default, but you can just open /boot/grub/menu.lst and edit it (the "other" menu.lst should already contain the entry you need to boot it, so you cna just copy paste)
[05:06] <biotrox> it's working he he he eh
[05:06] <ctyistudent> ubuntu servers are down, HELP!!!!!
[05:06] <Gosha> ... ?
[05:07] <goomie> biotrox: also i think the sudo apt-get clean will take care of them messages
[05:07] <biotrox> goomie | do you know how to simulate DDOS and everything in ubuntu..? what tool must i use..
[05:07] <biotrox> ya
[05:07] <HymnToLife> biotrox, what the hell is DDOS ?
[05:07] <jeeves_Moss> all:  can anyone help me configure the hotplug for my GPS?
[05:07] <ssam> Gosha, libgtk2.0-dev
[05:07] <ctyistudent> try synaptic, ubuntu servers are down, help me!!! PLEASE!!!!!
[05:08] <biotrox> sorry DOS = Denial Of Service
[05:08] <ssam> Gosha, i think thats the one you need
[05:08] <HymnToLife> ctyistudent, please don't shout
[05:08] <ChaosR> biotrox: i've installed all packages, every media player agrees with mp3's not, but i still don't hear any sound
[05:08] <Gosha> whatthe .. installed the lib-g. yeah, that one .. but it still prompts on it:
[05:08] <Gosha> checking for GTK... configure: WARNING: cannot find GTK+-2.0, player will be disabled
[05:08] <ctyistudent> sorry
[05:08] <ChaosR> now*
[05:08] <HymnToLife> and use another mirror instead
[05:08] <phrozen77> anyone could give me a hint why ubuntu boots the old kernel, after upgrading to 2.6.17? symlinks in /boot have been set to the new kernel, also lilo.conf seems to be ok to me... http://rafb.net/p/AnDeLJ91.html
[05:08] <tdog> where are the system sound files are stored on ubuntu ???
[05:08] <Gosha> ..
[05:08] <Gosha> 3.0
[05:08] <Lunar_Lamp> !netinstall
[05:08] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[05:08] <HymnToLife> phrozen77, would be faster to just install GRUB I guess :p
[05:08] <Gosha> 2.0 was it ..
[05:08] <ctyistudent> why are the servers down?????
[05:08] <Gosha> tsch installed the 1.2
[05:08] <goomie> biotrox: i think your looking for a packet injector
[05:09] <phrozen77> HymnToLife: thats no solution
[05:09] <kvossen> How can I prevent the F1-key from launching the help center? I've already disabled it in the keyboard shortcuts, but that doesn't work.
[05:09] <ctyistudent> why are the servers down?????
[05:09] <Gosha> explains
[05:09] <lynucs> which servers
[05:09] <cmweb> How do i set the exicutable directory in anjuta?
[05:09] <biotrox> goomie | maybe
[05:09] <ctyistudent> the ubuntu servers
[05:09] <ctyistudent> are down
[05:09] <HymnToLife> phrozen77, it seems like a perfectly acceptable one to me
[05:09] <goomie> biotrox: im not sure of any other way to simulate a DOS
[05:09] <lynucs> didnt notice...
[05:10] <ctyistudent> i cant get to the site or download packages
[05:10] <ctyistudent> this sucks
[05:10] <phrozen77> HymnToLife: well no - it might be a workaround, but not a solution why lilo wont boot the kernel i told it to
[05:10] <ctyistudent> the server situation i mean, not this group
[05:10] <HymnToLife> well
[05:10] <goomie> biotrox: or if you have a t1 and your buddy is on dial up you can flood em
[05:10] <HymnToLife> you could also remove the old one :p
[05:10] <goomie> biotrox: other then that im just a n00b
[05:10] <biotrox> yeah how am i be able to do that
[05:11] <noota> hi?
[05:11] <phrozen77> HymnToLife: your solution is just as much a solution as im going to do when that effing ubuntu wont do what i want and go and install something else on it
[05:11] <noota> ?
[05:11] <noota> hi?
[05:11] <biotrox> i'm trying to do that.. to test mcafee s/w that said can secure my network
[05:11] <noota> hi!
[05:11] <noota> ??
[05:12] <biotrox> !ubotu | noota
[05:12] <ubotu> noota: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:12] <HymnToLife> phrozen77, Ubuntu doesn't install LILO in the first place !
[05:12] <phrozen77> *sigh*
[05:12] <phrozen77> but my server-hoster did
[05:12] <noota> sign?
[05:12] <phrozen77> while i agree that grub is superior
[05:12] <alper> a very simple question: is this a common command in linux: curl?
[05:12] <phrozen77> they just DID install lilo
[05:12] <phrozen77> and i am not going to change that
[05:12] <HymnToLife> then go complain to them, not to us :p
[05:12] <goomie> biotrox: read teh wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial_of_service get some insight
[05:12] <phrozen77> at least as long as im not completely fed up with ubuntu
[05:12] <phrozen77> and going to install gentoo on it
[05:13] <Gosha> well, now it seems to work, thanks ssam
[05:13] <cmweb> Does anybody use anjuta?
[05:13] <tdog> how can i add wav file to my login and logout ????
[05:13] <goomie> biotrox: u trying to lock down your home network ?
[05:13] <ChaosR> do you need to turn sound on or something?
[05:13] <noota> I uses 'ubuntu' yesterday~!
[05:13] <jeeves_Moss> anyone: hotplugs?  any idea on how to set them up?
[05:13] <Gosha> a speaker
[05:13] <noota> ubuntu very easy
[05:14] <biotrox> i think, mmm yes just to test my network
[05:14] <goomie> biotrox: also look into a program called snort
[05:14] <noota> hi~
[05:14] <biotrox> snort..
[05:14] <biotrox> oke
[05:14] <biotrox> noota i just use ubuntu today :P
[05:14] <noota> really?
[05:14] <tdog> if i install kde ( kubuntu desktop ) , is there a chance of losing and damaging files and program that are already installed and running ?
[05:15] <noota> today
[05:15] <ChaosR> :/
[05:15] <noota> i set xgl
[05:15] <noota> but...
[05:15] <lolo> hola desde espaa
[05:15] <goomie> biotrox:  lol cant really tell u anything else but to read and mess around, router firewall + desktop firewall and u should be ok
[05:15] <ChaosR> it seems that if i have teamspeak turned on, nothing except for teamspeak will produce sound
[05:15] <noota> i install ubuntu again ^^;;
[05:15] <un_operateur> tdog, thats like asking if you will lose the contents in your car's glove compartment if you paint your car another colour :)
[05:16] <cmweb> How do i fix an error "The target executable does not exist for this Project" with anjuta? i don't know how to set the target or that stuff
[05:16] <Rug> my mouse and keyboard (both USB) don't work after install (Fresh Edgy installation) so I rebooted (placed PS2 dongles on the keyboard and mouse) and now my mouse isn't working.  (Dmesg detects the PS2 mouse) dpkg-reconfigure xserver doesn't help either
[05:16] <rogue780|ssh> tdog: I've done it, and the only problems I'ave had were the splash screen didn't change back after I uninstalled it
[05:16] <tdog> things can happen.. un_opearteur
[05:16] <ssam> !es | lolo
[05:16] <ubotu> lolo: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:16] <biotrox> goomie | yeah.. thanks but what i really need is the tool though
[05:16] <noota> this server don't make other channel?
[05:16] <biotrox> not the tool for IDS..
[05:17] <tdog> i am running apache , mysql . i don't want them to get screwed up . lol
[05:17] <biotrox> but to simulate DOS etc
[05:17] <rogue780|ssh> tdog: no worrires
[05:17] <biotrox> so i can try my network performance
[05:17] <tdog> thanks. although i love GNOME , but i like a bit crazier desktop
[05:17] <noota> this chat very complex
[05:17] <ChaosR> does anyone know something to get around that, so i can both hear sound and use teamspeak?
[05:17] <ssam> biotrox, could you find a scriptkiddie channel and offend them
[05:17] <un_operateur> tdog, well, yes and no -- if you install KDE the only things changing in your home directory are the KDE specific config files
[05:18] <Jopie> Anyone have any idea why my new Ubuntu system is instantly rebooting? right after the grub bootloader it reboots the computer...
[05:18] <goomie> ssam: lawl
[05:18] <Buzz_Off> hello
[05:18] <biotrox> ssam : oo am i being rude..? sorry didn't mean that way
[05:18] <noota> what method making other  channel?
[05:18] <Jopie> I've done a memory test, and this is low memory on an older system but it doesn't work...
[05:18] <Buzz_Off> I need help with PC-to-PC connection
[05:18] <tdog> is KDE as stable as gnome ???
[05:18] <cmweb> jopie, it has not bootable portions to be found
[05:18] <noota> what method making other  channel?
[05:18] <Jopie> cmweb: ?
[05:18] <tdog> do i have to worry about hickups with KDE ?
[05:18] <biotrox> ssam | really really sorry
[05:18] <Buzz_Off> I can`t connect Win32 pc with Ubuntu
[05:18] <ssam> biotrox, :-) no your not being rude
[05:18] <tdog> I have good hardware installed on this computer so resourse is not the problme
[05:18] <tdog> i build this PC just for linux
[05:19] <cmweb> jopie, it did not find a bootable portion to boot from
[05:19] <tdog> im way tooo new to liux
[05:19] <tdog> :D
[05:19] <un_operateur> tdog, KDE is very stable -- some say more rock solid than gnome -- but you have to be the judge of that
[05:19] <ssam> biotrox, i mean if you were rude some script kiddies they might try to dos you
[05:19] <biotrox> ssam: so. i can't understand what u mean
[05:19] <noota> some body can setting 64bit flash plug-in?
[05:19] <noota> some body can setting 64bit flash plug-in?
[05:19] <Buzz_Off> can you help me?
[05:19] <noota> yes
[05:19] <Jopie> cmweb: but I just installed the server which went fine, why doesn't it find it... did the partitioning fail?
[05:19] <biotrox> ssam: script kiddies..?
[05:19] <tdog> there are no 64bit flash player
[05:19] <cmweb> jopie, what are you on now?
[05:19] <noota> hel~
[05:20] <goomie> biotrox: read that wiki page i sent u thats all you need to know on how to create a DoS.  Google for tools
[05:20] <tdog> latest is version 7 for none 64bit
[05:20] <Jopie> cmweb: right now, as in this computer?
[05:20] <biotrox> goomie :  thanks lho....
[05:20] <un_operateur> !debootstrap
[05:20] <ubotu> debootstrap: Bootstrap a basic Debian system. In component main, is extra. Version 0.3.3.0ubuntu7 (edgy), package size 48 kB, installed size 248 kB
[05:20] <noota> when they make 64bit version?
[05:20] <un_operateur> !chroot
[05:20] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[05:20] <ajf> hello
[05:20] <noota> when they make 64bit version?
[05:20] <ssam> biotrox, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Script_kiddie
[05:20] <ajf> i'm looking for a guide to setup intel 945g, i'm using a laptop and i have a crappy res
[05:20] <cmweb> jopie, mostlikley the partioning did fail or you did not set it up right. Id sudgest re-install if its not working
[05:21] <tdog> base on what i read, there are no plane as of yet to make one , atleast not for linux
[05:21] <Jopie> cmweb: I've done that twice or maybe even three times... let me try again with a different image :)
[05:21] <noota> thank you for your answer~!!
[05:21] <noota> thank you for your answer~!!
[05:21] <cmweb> jopie, what is the image your installing, Gnome or the server
[05:21] <tdog> vista 64bit will not be realeased to public , only if call and order directly , so that should also effect any 64bit plugins that might come for linux
[05:21] <Jopie> server
[05:22] <Buzz_Off> how can I share network with 2 LAN cards?
[05:22] <cmweb> jopie, oh before you procede though their is a disk checker on the cd use it
[05:22] <Jopie> cmweb: gnome hangs halfway on boot, I think it's not got enough memory
[05:22] <un_operateur> Jopie, how much memory did you say the machine has?
[05:22] <Jopie> Buzz_Off: windows & ubuntu together or two ubuntu systems
[05:22] <Buzz_Off> ubuntu to windows
[05:22] <Jopie> un_operateur: not a lot, 64 MB :(
[05:23] <un_operateur> Jopie, you'll need much more than that for gnome to run
[05:23] <jps__> anyone uses a notebook that has opensource modem(56k) drivers ? (not the linuxant ones)
[05:23] <cmweb> jopie, were in the same boat i got an old os i need to get on this what are you installing server
[05:23] <Jopie> I realize, I don't want gnome...
[05:23] <tdog> you need to install file and folder sharing . for both linux on window , right from linux
[05:23] <un_operateur> Jopie, why not try a lighter Windows manager?
[05:23] <Buzz_Off> no no
[05:23] <tdog> called shared folder
[05:23] <un_operateur> like fluxbox or icewm or if you arent going to use the machine a lot -- twm
[05:23] <Jopie> I want it headless... I don't need the GUI... but using 5.10 doesn't work, I need the respitories
[05:23] <Buzz_Off> the ubuntu can`t ping the windows lan card
[05:23] <Buzz_Off> why?
[05:24] <Buzz_Off> windows pings both
[05:24] <Rug> Jopie: my personal favorite WM is fluxbox.  Very easy on a system
[05:24] <CHa83> hi, i used the experimental ntfs read driver for a few weeks. After i conntected my external drive to a windows system the following error appeared as i connected it to my ubuntu system: "failed to mount '/dev/sda1': operation not supported
[05:24] <CHa83> mount is denied because the ntfs journal file is unclean. choices are:
[05:24] <CHa83>  a) shutdown windows properly.
[05:24] <CHa83>  b) click the 'safely remove hardware' icon in the windows taskbar
[05:24] <CHa83>     notification area before disconnecting the device.
[05:24] <Jopie> lol, but I don't want a WM :) or atleast yet!!!
[05:24] <CHa83>  c) use 'eject' from windows explorer to safely remove the device.
[05:24] <tdog> linux is not set to broadcast IP
[05:24] <CHa83>  d) if you ran chkdsk previously then boot windows again which will
[05:24] <CHa83>     automatically initialize the journal.
[05:24] <CHa83>  e) run 'ntfsfix' on linux which will reset the ntfs journal.
[05:24] <CHa83>  f) mount the volume read-only by using the 'ro' mount option.
[05:24] <tdog> that might be the case . unless you are sharing a folder
[05:24] <un_operateur> !paste | CHa83
[05:24] <ubotu> CHa83: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:25] <biotrox> ssam : do you know any tool to make me become a sript kddie :P
[05:25] <Buzz_Off> no no
[05:25] <Buzz_Off> I `ve done it before but I can`t remember
[05:25] <klip> Jopie, When you don't want a windowmanager then uninstall it ;) sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[05:25] <Buzz_Off> j-snat postrouting .... and ssometing
[05:25] <Buzz_Off> but what...
[05:25] <Buzz_Off> something like that...
[05:26] <un_operateur> Buzz_Off, you probably want to ask this in the 3l1t3 channels :)
[05:26] <Jopie> klip: lol, the whole problem is that I can't boot :)
[05:26] <Buzz_Off> wait a sec
[05:27] <Buzz_Off> where were the starting PS conf.files?
[05:27] <un_operateur> Jopie, can you boot into single user/recovery mode?
[05:27] <Jopie> un_operateur: not on the hd itself, but I can off the cd
[05:28] <un_operateur> Jopie, was grub not configured to add the "recovery" option for your current kernel?
[05:28] <exs> ok guys, simple question.. I'm using 6.06, and I want to go up to 6.10. What should I edit my sources.list to? is there a template I can just copy n' paste? Cheers.
[05:28] <CHa83> hi, i used the experimental ntfs read driver for a few weeks. After i conntected my external drive to a windows system the following error appeared as i connected it to my ubuntu system: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38383/
[05:28] <Jopie> which is what I'm doing now
[05:28] <un_operateur> !upgrading | CHa83
[05:28] <ubotu> CHa83: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:28] <Jopie> un_operateur: it acts the same way as the main boot
[05:28] <un_operateur> Jopie, are you asking me that or telling me that? :)
[05:29] <Jopie> un_operateur: I'm telling you that, sorry, it auto reboots also!
[05:29] <ssam> biotrox, the first step is to learn leet speak, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet
[05:29] <CHa83> what is the connection between upgrading and my problem ?
[05:30] <phrozen77> HymnToLife: just fyi - the solution is even simpler than just installing grub for the fun of it - with lilo you have to execute "lilo" once to get the mbr rewritten
[05:30] <un_operateur> sorry CHa83 -- that was meant for exs
[05:30] <un_operateur> CHa83, which ntfs driver are you using ?
[05:31] <CHa83> ntfsg-3
[05:31] <CHa83> or something like that
[05:31] <HymnToLife> !ntfs-3g
[05:31] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[05:31] <mohshami> hey guys, I deleted my .mozilla folder by mistake, now I can't watch flash animations, where should I start looking?
[05:31] <CHa83> yep ntfs-3g
[05:31] <un_operateur> Jopie, well, does init tell you where it fails? does the boot get as far as init itself??
[05:32] <lynucs> !flash
[05:32] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:32] <Buzz_Off> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.0.0/24 -j SNAT --to-source 80.80.159.137
[05:32] <Buzz_Off> here it was :D
[05:32] <mohshami> lynucs: thanks :)
[05:32] <lynucs> no its crap i guess :)
[05:32] <lynucs> hold on a second plz
[05:33] <Jopie> un_operateur: Off the HD, it says ' starting the linux kernel' very fast and then reboots. The CD boots fine but has a terrible interface and can't find the CD for some odd reason.
[05:33] <prestwick> hello ^^ I'm having problems with ndiswrapper and Unbuntu 6.10. It sees my wifi adapter but it can't associate with the unprotected wifi access point.
[05:33] <twissy> moshami, go to a site where u need flash. U'll see something like click here to install missing plugin.  That's the fastest easiest way i think..
[05:33] <exs> I'm trying to upgrade to 6.10 from 6.06, but when i try "gksu update-manager -c -d" nothing happens
[05:33] <prestwick> hehehehe, I'll wait till all of these questions are sorted first.
[05:34] <un_operateur> CHa83, have you tried booting up to windows again?  and cleaning this disk?
[05:34] <lynucs> mohshami, you're using firefox?
[05:34] <lynucs> which one
[05:34] <prestwick> He's quit :(
[05:34] <lynucs> oh
[05:34] <prestwick> I have a problem though!
[05:35] <prestwick> With ndiswrapper.
[05:35] <naelphin> how can i enable DMA on my cdrom? i get HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Input/output error
[05:35] <biotrox> oke leet is to change the form but not changing ones perception
[05:35] <lynucs> never used ndiswrapper :D
[05:35] <prestwick> :(
[05:35] <biotrox> right ssam?
[05:35] <lynucs> maybe a wiki could help
[05:35] <biotrox> changing character with numbers
[05:35] <biotrox> ya..?
[05:36] <klip> exs,  You need to change the sources in /etc/apt/sources.list to "edgy" instead of "dapper"; then apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:36] <JensB> Hi everybody
[05:37] <biotrox> what e.g. stands for..?
[05:37] <JensB> I have a small problem with two Ubuntu (edgy) machines ... they are both identically configured, but on one of them I cannot change most font sizes. when I use the SysteM > settings > fonts utility, only some fonts change (e.g. the Panel, Evolution message list, etc. doesn't). but on the other, all fonts change correctly. any idea why?
[05:38] <prestwick> yeah, I am checking the wiki for Ubuntu and looking for the wiki for NDISWrapper
[05:38] <Jopie> un_operateur: the recovery module doesn't work either, but just freezes. So i've got another question, is there anyway to get the 5.04 version working with the respitories...It fails on apt-get and can't get the files to 'update'
[05:38] <lynucs> prestwick, iguess its a good idea
[05:38] <Buzz_Off> resbOOOOOT
[05:39] <klip> Jopie, You need to execute apt as root; sudo apt-get update
[05:39] <prestwick> I'll keep you guys updated then. I think its more of a problem with the adapter (a Belkin wireless-g USB adapter) than NDISwrapper.
[05:39] <un_operateur> Jopie, you need to give me clues to work on :) the retrieval of lists could fail for any number of reasons ...
[05:39] <CHa83> ok anyone has an idee how to clean an unclean ntfs file journal without a windows system ? :D
[05:39] <CHa83> idee= idea
[05:40] <Jopie> klip: yeah, it runs but fails on certain respetories... it's stuck on "99% Waiting for Headers", I jsut can't remember what respitory ;)
[05:40] <un_operateur> CHa83, its there within the error message you posted -- linuxntfs or ntfslinux
[05:40] <lynucs> prestwick so you "installed" a driver already?
[05:40] <CHa83> it is ?
[05:40] <un_operateur> Jopie, are you adding any non-standard repos?
[05:41] <un_operateur> CHa83, ntfsfix
[05:41] <Jopie> un_operateur: yeah, I think I removed the commenting from the universal respitory...
[05:41] <CHa83> yeah doesnt work
[05:41] <prestwick> Yes, Lynucs, I did.
[05:41] <prestwick> And the install and the modprobe go smoothly.
[05:41] <un_operateur> Jopie, err, what i mean is -- non-ubuntu repos
[05:42] <prestwick> But for some reason it won't see anything
[05:42] <Jopie> un_operateur: no, not at all
[05:42] <theAnswer> hey, can someone tell me how to run ubuntu without gnome?
[05:42] <theAnswer> boot options?
[05:42] <Jopie> install the server version
[05:42] <prestwick> Kubuntu is the KDE variant right?
[05:42] <un_operateur> CHa83, doesnt work? why not? what errors?
[05:42] <un_operateur> theAnswer, disable the gdm daemon
[05:42] <CHa83> if i pmount the device as read only ntfsfix prints that error: Refusing to operate on read-write mounted device /dev/sda1.
[05:43] <bigfuzzyjesus> theAnswer, ctrl+F2 gets you to cmd line
[05:43] <theAnswer> okay, thanks
[05:43] <un_operateur> CHa83, have you tried mounting as superuser -- pmount might not work because it uses your credentials
[05:43] <CHa83> and if the dev is not mounted it prints
[05:43] <CHa83> Mounting volume... FAILED
[05:43] <CHa83> ohh that could be so problem
[05:44] <theAnswer> wow, thats a huge channel :P
[05:44] <un_operateur> xmmsc : Coldplay - Square One
[05:44] <DDragon> not to mention the spam at joining
[05:45] <theAnswer> yeah =)
[05:45] <Jopie> yeah, I don't think we need the answer here, we got plenty of other souls wanting to help out :)
[05:45] <CHa83> sudo ntfsfix /dev/sda1
[05:45] <CHa83> Refusing to operate on read-write mounted device /dev/sda1.#
[05:45] <theAnswer> :P
[05:45] <DDragon> lol @ Jopie
[05:46] <un_operateur> CHa83,  bahh -- is /dev/sda1 mounted by root??
[05:46] <CHa83> yes
[05:46] <Jopie> theAnswer: no offense personally
[05:46] <un_operateur> CHa83, you said pmount? is it still pmounted?
[05:46] <un_operateur> !pmount
[05:46] <ubotu> pmount: mount removable devices as normal user. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.13-1build1 (edgy), package size 39 kB, installed size 588 kB
[05:46] <aa> ubotu  8 8 6
[05:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 8 8 6 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:46] <CHa83> yes
[05:46] <CHa83> ups
[05:47] <CHa83> ok how to mount as root ?
[05:47] <DDragon> ubotu wine
[05:47] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:47] <CHa83> !mount
[05:47] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[05:47] <DDragon> o.0
[05:47] <un_operateur> CHa83, well, as you can see, pmount mounts the devices using your credentials -- those might not be enough to perform those actions on the filesystem
[05:47] <CHa83> yeah i see
[05:47] <varon> yeaaaah my USB-STICK does is job !!!!!!!!!
[05:47] <CHa83> so how to mount as root ?
[05:47] <zspada15_> CHa83, sudo mount
[05:47] <CHa83> kk
[05:47] <CHa83> unmount ?
[05:47] <DDragon> o.0 @ varon
[05:48] <un_operateur> CHa83, you might need extra parms for ntfs-3g .. check the manpage
[05:48] <arbubuntu> hi every body
[05:48] <biotrox> ssam after  reading leet what must i read?
[05:48] <varon> :) wlan-usb-stick works with linux ... NICE !
[05:48] <varon> bye all =)
[05:48] <CHa83> someone tell me the unmount command ?
[05:48] <DDragon> ahhhh i c varon.... cya then
[05:48] <varon> and thnx for all you help (and my bad english) ^^
[05:48] <Puck_> salve ragazzi
[05:48] <lynucs|afk> umount /your/dir
[05:48] <un_operateur> CHa83, umount --help
[05:49] <ssam> biotrox, i am not sure, i'm not a script kiddie
[05:49] <biotrox> :(
[05:49] <Puck_> hi people!
[05:49] <Jopie> hi and bye
[05:49] <biotrox> puck just ask a question
[05:49] <Jopie> we're people just ask please
[05:49] <DDragon> lfor
[05:50] <lynucs|afk> anyone knows how to set alsamixer's volume more then 100% ? just couldn't answer that question today
[05:50] <lynucs|afk> or how to set up alsamixer, so that the current 100% of volume would count as e.g. just 30%, to be able to set volume higher??
[05:50] <biotrox> 1 ] |_|57 |_34|2/\/3|) \/\/|-|47 1337 /\/\34/\/5
[05:50] <Jopie> lyncus|asfk use an amp :)
[05:50] <un_operateur> lynucs|afk, are you serious?? :))
[05:50] <zspada15_> biotrox, 1337
[05:50] <Jopie> DIY analog
[05:50] <zspada15_> !1337
[05:50] <ubotu> 1337 i5 nigh-inc0mpr3h3n5ib13 70 u5 n00bs, 4nd n0b0dy c4r35 if UR 4 1337 h4x0r. Giv3 i7 4 r357.
[05:50] <un_operateur> lol
[05:50] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[05:50] <lynucs|afk> i guess yes
[05:50] <lynucs|afk> :D
[05:50] <zspada15_> !1337 | biotrox
[05:50] <ubotu> biotrox: 1337 i5 nigh-inc0mpr3h3n5ib13 70 u5 n00bs, 4nd n0b0dy c4r35 if UR 4 1337 h4x0r. Giv3 i7 4 r357.
[05:51] <biotrox> !leet
[05:51] <zspada15_> lynucs|afk, you can't with alsa mixer
[05:51] <SeraVitae> you know that is scary
[05:51] <raxip> Hello
[05:51] <DDragon> rolf @  ubotu
[05:51] <eltopo> Hi
[05:51] <zspada15_> hi eltopo
[05:51] <SeraVitae> i can't even learn languages that use standard english a-z
[05:51] <Jopie> hi and bye:)
[05:51] <SeraVitae> yet i can read leet fluently.
[05:51] <lynucs|afk> someona had today a problem... his sound was tooo low
[05:51] <arbubuntu> I have problem with the Media file on firefox and opera plugins any body help me out here please
[05:51] <lynucs|afk> what might it be
[05:51] <raxip> interest
[05:52] <un_operateur> !anybody | arbubuntu
[05:52] <ubotu> arbubuntu: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:52] <biotrox> zspada15 he he he ehe hehe this is something i just read
[05:52] <biotrox> no harm done
[05:53] <arbubuntu>  I have problem with the Media file on firefox and opera plugins any body help me out here please
[05:53] <Jopie> what is the problem!!!!!! Just ****ing tell us
[05:54] <jbroome> ahahahah
[05:54] <zspada15_> !patience | Jopie
[05:54] <ubotu> Jopie: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:54] <Jopie> sorry
[05:54] <DDragon> ok at the risk of the "Anybody" thing beeing throwen at me but is there there any info about getting Ubuntu server as a shipped CD available?
[05:55] <biotrox> Ddragon.. where you at
[05:55] <eltopo> out of interest
[05:55] <DDragon> Aust
[05:55] <biotrox> in aust there's a mirror of ubuntu right guys
[05:55] <biotrox> ????
[05:55] <biotrox> just donlod it ddragon
[05:56] <Jopie> there's 'local' distributors everywhere
[05:56] <DDragon> hmmm i know there is the mirrors but i got slow connection and well it have a 5 hr cut of timer
[05:56] <biotrox> !distributors
[05:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about distributors - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:57] <naelphin> now my cdrom has stopped automounting
[05:57] <naelphin> yay
[05:57] <jbroome> every day is an adventure
[05:57] <un_operateur> DDragon, I dont think you'd get a server CD shipped out -- but couldnt you go to friends place and download the image -- or spend 10 minutes at an internet cafe?
[05:58] <PriceChild> !shipit | DDragon
[05:58] <ubotu> DDragon: shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will not send Edgy (6.10) CDs, but only Dapper (6.06) CDs, as Dapper is a !LTS release.
[05:58] <biotrox> Guys, how do i install windows fonts in ubuntu.?
[05:58] <arbubuntu> I hope ubuntu supported like windows when I browse any sites have Media file it should download it on the plugin of the browser
[05:58] <PriceChild> !fonts | biotrox
[05:58] <ubotu> biotrox: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[05:58] <biotrox> i need the times new roman
[05:58] <Jopie> DDragpon: it seems there are none actually in australia... the wiki page for the australia team for the local CDs doesn't exist
[05:58] <DDragon> well the only net connection i have is at a m8's place and i cant afford the netcaffee atm :S :(
[05:58] <lynucs|afk> biotry, or try to use automatix for that
[05:58] <alper> hi guys, im new to ubuntu and i want to know if you are able to write a file with a command line for the terminal, that starts the terminal and executes the command with doubleclick on it?
[05:58] <jbroome> lynucs|afk: no to automatix
[05:59] <DDragon> biotrox: try using EasyUbuntu
[05:59] <jbroome> !sa | arbubuntu
[05:59] <ubotu> arbubuntu: For the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join     #ubuntu-sa
[05:59] <lynucs|afk> why no?
[05:59] <jbroome> !automatix | lynucs|afk
[05:59] <ubotu> lynucs|afk: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:59] <lesshaste> anyone know how to record a skype conversation ?
[06:00] <naelphin> how can i get ubuntu to automount my cdrom agaiN?
[06:00] <un_operateur> lol @ send him to saudi arabia
[06:00] <lynucs|afk> hmm.. never had any probs with it
[06:00] <DDragon> naelphin: it should either when u boot ubuntu or put a cd in the drive
[06:00] <naelphin> put disc in, nothing
[06:00] <alper> hi guys, im new to ubuntu and i want to know if you are able to write a file with a command line for the terminal, that starts the terminal and executes the command with doubleclick on it?
[06:00] <DDragon> hmmm
[06:00] <jbroome> you can use automatix, but don't expect help in here to undo it when it FUBARs
[06:00] <naelphin> using 6.06
[06:01] <patrixx>  Hello is there a command to check external IP in the gnome terminal ?
[06:01] <DDragon> naelphin: u tryed multiple CD's
[06:01] <patrixx> join #edgy
[06:01] <DDragon> patrixx type /j #edgy
[06:02] <patrixx> yes
[06:02] <patrixx> ;)
[06:02] <patrixx> thanks
[06:02] <DDragon> np
[06:02] <patrixx> do you know a command maybe  to check external IP in the gnome terminal ?
[06:02] <patrixx> ifconfig only gives internal Ip
[06:02] <PriceChild> patrixx, there is no #edgy
[06:02] <DDragon> hmmm i dont know myself... :S
[06:02] <patrixx> yes
[06:02] <patrixx> ;)
[06:03] <PriceChild> patrixx, ifconfig
[06:03] <jbroome> patrixx: w3m whatismyip.com
[06:03] <patrixx> gives only internal Ip
[06:03] <idlemind> lesshate: do you work for the CIA?
[06:03] <patrixx> yes i know ..
[06:03] <lynucs|afk> ifconfig gives just internal ip
[06:03] <patrixx> exactly
[06:03] <jbroome> i've heard that ifconfig gives just internal ip
[06:03] <jbroome> well, if you're doing pppoe it'll show external
[06:04] <patrixx> ahh ok .. but this isn t my case :(
[06:04] <lynucs|afk> i dont know how to get it in terminal, buton www.whatismyip.com
[06:04] <lynucs|afk> :D
[06:04] <patrixx> w3m whatismyip.com
[06:04] <patrixx> cool
[06:05] <patrixx> that works in command
[06:05] <patrixx> thanks
[06:05] <PriceChild> yeah you can't really find out your external ip without asking your router, or an external site
[06:05] <patrixx> ;)
[06:06] <DDragon> hi Mom
[06:06] <DDragon> lol soz had to do it
[06:06] <patrixx> this is perfect to do it
[06:06] <patrixx> w3m checkip.dyndns.org
[06:06] <patrixx> thanks ...
[06:06] <Mom> hey all, is there an oss schedule/calendar networking software that is easy to install? i tried egroupware but it's too complicated
[06:06] <arbubuntu> how to install bery on ubuntu 6.10
[06:06] <Zahrber> I have tightVNC on my windows laptop and I am trying to find vnc in ubuntu anyone know if it is installed or where to find it
[06:07] <zspada15_> !beryl | arbubuntu
[06:07] <ubotu> arbubuntu: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[06:07] <jbroome> Zahrber: look for vncviewer or vncserver
[06:07] <un_operateur> lynucs|afk,  wget -q www.whatismyip.com;  cat index.html | perl -ne '/(\d+\.\d+\.\d+\.\d+)/; do { print $1; exit } if $1'
[06:07] <Zahrber> yeah I installed it thru synaptec vnc but can't find it on laptop
[06:08] <DDragon> *Listening to: Metalica - Enter The Sandman*
[06:08] <jbroome> try alt-f2 and enter vnc[viewer|server] 
[06:08] <buck28> can anyone tell how i can install aircrack on mepis
[06:08] <sharperguy> When viewing a PDF can I get "true" fullscreen? (ie w/o the bar at the top)
[06:08] <lynucs|afk> operateur, w3m solves it too
[06:08] <arbubuntu> Zahrber just enable remote desktop on ubuntu and you will be able to connect
[06:08] <jbroome> DDragon: we honestly don't care
[06:08] <elysium444> !nvidia
[06:08] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:09] <un_operateur> lynucs|afk, by browsing to the site yes .. requiring you to do it manual ly
[06:09] <DDragon> jbroome: meh
[06:09] <un_operateur> manually*
[06:09] <lynucs|afk> ?
[06:09] <lynucs|afk> nope
[06:09] <Jopie> hmmm, is there anyway to skip a step in the install... I'm installing Ubuntu 5.04 which is old, yes, but it's taking forever to do 'testing network repository', honstly i'd like to skip the test...
[06:10] <Zahrber> yeah but how to I vnc into the windows laptop I am trying to run viewer on ubuntu not server
[06:10] <lynucs|afk> just w3m whatismyip.com shows it
[06:10] <sbalneav> sharperguy: not as far as I know.
[06:10] <buck28> can anybody help me out
[06:10] <un_operateur> lynucs|afk, n/m -- as long as you're happy :)
[06:10] <lynucs|afk> :D
[06:11] <Krolik> i got an iso of ubuntu 6.10 onto a cd, set up my BIOS, but my live install doesn't want to set up quickly
[06:11] <Krolik> takes about 1/2 an hour to show the desktop and no install icon
[06:11] <lynucs|afk> is there a software available, which replaces Adobe FineReader??
[06:12] <lynucs|afk> i mean for lniux of course
[06:12] <sharperguy> It's just that the Tux Magazine usually opens like that... but now its not
[06:12] <un_operateur> what does fine reader do?
[06:12] <Krolik> can anyone tell me what to do to install ubuntu withour the live CD???
[06:12] <Krolik> like a boot sytem setup????
[06:12] <PriceChild> Zahrber, press escape and choose wher eyou'd like to rejoin
[06:12] <PriceChild> Krolik, the alternate cd?
[06:12] <ssam> Krolik, you could try the alternate cd
[06:12] <lynucs|afk> e.g. digitalizes scanned letters
[06:12] <PriceChild> !alternate | Krolik
[06:12] <ubotu> Krolik: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[06:12] <lynucs|afk> so you can work in it like in office
[06:12] <mypapit> wtf
[06:12] <sbalneav> Krolik: what kind of cdrom is it?  Is it an internal IDE cdrom, or an external USB cdrom?
[06:13] <un_operateur> !scim
[06:13] <ubotu> Chinese, Japanese, Korean Language input. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM
[06:13] <ssam> lynucs|afk, try searching for OCR (optical character recognition)
[06:13] <Krolik> internal average CD-Rom (IDE)
[06:13] <lynucs|afk> hmm.. ok thx
[06:14] <buck28> is there anyway to install aircrack on meeepis
[06:14] <ssam> lynucs|afk, i am not sure if there is anything that is easy to use
[06:14] <lynucs|afk> pity
[06:14] <Krolik> Is there a boot method for the live CD to format and install ubuntu without the live CD feature????
[06:14] <sbalneav> Krolik: The live cd should work well, unless you got a bad burn on the cd.  However, you've not got the link to the alternative, so you can try that as well.
[06:14] <buck28> sorry mepis
[06:14] <Krolik> can the alternative work on a DVD???
[06:15] <lynucs|afk> !ocr
[06:15] <ssam> buck apt-get install aircrack
[06:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ocr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:15] <lynucs|afk> :)
[06:15] <buck28> do that in a terminal
[06:15] <sbalneav> Krolik: a DVD rom drive should read a cd.
[06:15] <ssam> buck28, it might work
[06:15] <Krolik> i mean burn the iso onto a dvd???
[06:15] <ssam> buck28, but you might have more luck in a mepis chat room
[06:16] <sbalneav> Krolik: Never tried that, so I'm not sure.
[06:16] <Krolik> lets hope :)
[06:17] <Krolik> one more thing...what about "live CD in safe mode" would that work to install the ubuntu onto the HD???
[06:17] <pr3d4t0r> Greetings.
[06:18] <sbalneav> Krolik: No.  That just boots in a safe graphics mode.  If you have a different cdrom drive, you might want to swap it in, and try the live cd again.  Maybe just that drive has problems with the cd.
[06:18] <pr3d4t0r> Q. How do you install SOCKS5 on an Ubuntu gateway to make it act as a proxy?  I think I'm having my stupid day because I can't find it.  I'm checking the packages but don't seem to find the appropriate one.  Thanks in advance.
[06:18] <Krolik> sbalneav: thanks
[06:19] <sbalneav> pr3d4t0r: Not sure, but ssh can act as a socks5 proxy via the -D switch
[06:20] <pr3d4t0r> sbalneav: Ah.
[06:20] <pr3d4t0r> sbalneav: I'd still like to have a real one installed.  Some of the machines on the LAN behind the gateway have users who'd get confused by SSH.
[06:21] <pr3d4t0r> sbalneav: Thanks for the suggestion, though; that may work out for some people.
[06:21] <sbalneav> pr3d4t0r: If you just need a proxy for some app, ssh -ND 9999 localhost on some machine will set up a socks5 proxy on port 9999, users can just point to that.
[06:21] <sbalneav> Might be worth fooling with :)
[06:22] <pr3d4t0r> sbalneav: It's a generic proxy.  I'd like to set it up independently of SSH.
[06:22] <cmweb> I'm not sure if this is possible but is their a way to have people over my network have their account on my machine and be able to access it on a windows machine when they are sellecting a username to login to? like i said i have no idea if this is possible but it would provide me with a better way to administer their accounts. Any ideas?
[06:23] <pr3d4t0r> sbalneav: But yeah, let me think about this a bit more.
[06:23] <pr3d4t0r> sbalneav: The scary thing is that www.socks.nec.com doesn't work anymore.
[06:23] <pr3d4t0r> :\
[06:23] <pr3d4t0r> sbalneav: Thanks for your help.
[06:23] <KageSenshi> cmweb, ssh
[06:23] <sbalneav> pr3d4t0r: sorry I can't be of more help, but I've used the ssh trick for so long, it's all I know anymore :)
[06:23] <fdoving> !freenx | cmweb
[06:23] <ubotu> cmweb: FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[06:23] <pr3d4t0r> sbalneav: HeH.
[06:23] <pr3d4t0r> sbalneav++
[06:23] <pr3d4t0r> sbalneav: Same here.
[06:24] <cmweb> KageSenshi, thats what i was thinking but windows does not ssh during boot up
[06:24] <pr3d4t0r> sbalneav: My problem is normal people on the 'net now.  "What is this SSH thing?"
[06:24] <pr3d4t0r> sbalneav: Plus some are running Windows :: shudder ::
[06:24] <cmweb> fdoving, would not allow them to login, i dont think
[06:24] <pr3d4t0r> sbalneav: Most of us Mac or Linux guys can just run /usr/bin/ssh in the background and put it out of mind.
[06:25] <KageSenshi> cmweb, what are you trying to do actually? .. having "c:\documents and settings"  on a remote server?
[06:25] <cmweb> KageSenshi, is their a tool for that or am i going to have to proram
[06:25] <sbalneav> :)
[06:25] <cmweb> KageSenshi, no having the entire account on a remote server
[06:25] <zspada15_> !ssh |pr3d4t0r
[06:25] <ubotu> pr3d4t0r: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[06:25] <un_operateur> cmweb, check out the samba howtos on setting up a domain controller -- that'll help you setup your *nix box as a authentication database
[06:26] <KageSenshi> cmweb, windows account??
[06:26] <un_operateur> hey again pr3d4t0r :)
[06:26] <cmweb> KageSenshi, yes the entire thing
[06:26] <un_operateur> cmweb, samba mate
[06:26] <copyleft_> how do I install  nvidia drivers on edgy any good website howtos ?
[06:26] <un_operateur> !nvidia
[06:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:27] <cmweb> un_operateur, ok il try it but this is going to kill me
[06:27] <KageSenshi> cmweb, i'm not sure about it .. samba might be able to do it .. but i'm not sure myself .. never done it before
[06:27] <un_operateur> cmweb, well, you asked for something "not-so-easy" :)
[06:27] <cmweb>  un_operateur, yeah i know this is going to be the highlight of my life :)
[06:28] <KageSenshi> yup . not-so-easy .. microsoft is not going to let linux easily control their OS's account .. haha
[06:28] <un_operateur> cmweb, ha ha, if you say that about samba -- you havent seen nothing yet :)
[06:28] <mc__> would  a local dns server speed up surfing?
[06:28] <cmweb> un_operateur, dont tell me that :-)
[06:28] <un_operateur> mc__ a cachine nameserver definitely reduces lookup times -- it doesnt speed up actual surfing no
[06:29] <un_operateur> caching*
[06:29] <cmweb> KageSenshi, my school does it so i dont know why i cant
[06:29] <mc__> un_operateur: how much % of the loading time of a page are spent with lookups?
[06:29] <edisch> hello
[06:29] <edisch> can i speak german?
[06:30] <mc__> edisch: nope
[06:30] <cmweb> un_operateur, got any ideas as to what modules il need?
[06:30] <pr3d4t0r> sbalneav: It looks like I may be able to hack something for ssh proxying on the Windows machines without user intervention.
[06:30] <pr3d4t0r> un_operateur!!!
[06:31] <pr3d4t0r> un_operateur: How is everything going?  Getting ready to celebrate Christmas yet?
[06:31] <edisch> ok
[06:31] <mc__> pr3d4t0r: your nick sucks
[06:31] <pr3d4t0r> mc__: You'll live.
[06:31] <jbroome> tab complete wins
[06:31] <DigitalNinja> Does anyone have any good instructions for geting multimedia workin on Ubuntu? I've tried easyubuntu. It works but it changes your sources.lst.
[06:31] <mc__> !multimedia
[06:31] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[06:31] <un_operateur> mc__, say you want to get to google.com -- the lookup on your ISP's DNS server might take somewhere between 200ms and 2ms -- if you cache locally it's reduced down to <30ms .. but once the client has gotten the lookup, it doesnt do again until the entry expires -- so its only an initial speedup
[06:32] <pr3d4t0r> mc__: http://www.theserverside.com/news/thread.tss?thread_id=42818
[06:32] <un_operateur> pr3d4t0r, he he -- yep --we're going to get the turkey in tomorrow :)
[06:32] <pr3d4t0r> un_operateur: Nice.
[06:32] <un_operateur> pr3d4t0r, how about ya?
[06:32] <pr3d4t0r> un_operateur: Lobster and prime rib.
[06:32] <KageSenshi> ssh without user intervention -> use plink ..
[06:32] <KageSenshi> that is on windows of course
[06:33] <un_operateur> cmweb, you'll need the samba server package -- it ought to install all the dependencies
[06:33] <mc__> pr3d4t0r: why did you send me that link
[06:33] <un_operateur> pr3d4t0r, not a fan of the turkey?
[06:33] <mc__> un_operateur: alright,thank you!
[06:33] <cmweb> un_operateur, got that what about swat what will i be able to do with it
[06:33] <johnjohn> were do my files go in xchat
[06:33] <pr3d4t0r> mc__: I figure that if my /nick is good enough for one of the top 10 server community sites on the net, it's good enough for here.
[06:33] <pr3d4t0r> un_operateur: Turkey sucks ;)
[06:33] <KageSenshi> johnjohn, ~/.xchat/
[06:33] <SupremacyGnu> Hey, I just downloaded some kind of update for my gnome... something. And it freezed, so I used the alt + sysrq + R + S +E + I + U + B command. And now my mouse acceleration is really slow. If I use the mouse options and make it higher, nothing happends. Seems to be more bugs aswell, is there anyway to redo or go back to before? Thanks
[06:33] <pr3d4t0r> un_operateur: I prefer duck.
[06:33] <johnjohn> thanks
[06:34] <un_operateur> cmweb, swat only helps in configuring samba up for you
[06:34] <KageSenshi> (i wonder why xchat put downloads inside its hidden folder by default .. *shuck* ..)
[06:34] <mc__> pr3d4t0r: i dont read anythin about pr3d4t0r there
[06:34] <cmweb> un_operateur, ok i need
[06:34] <pr3d4t0r> un_operateur: Grilled duck breast, after marinating overnight in a mix of chopped garlic, onion, soy sauce, and a bit of chilli pepper.
[06:34] <obstfliege> when will the securiy update for FireFox & Thunderbird be in the paket list?
[06:34] <pr3d4t0r> mc__: Read the bottom of the article.
[06:35] <MrSprout> I have a really really stupid question if anyone is willing to help.
[06:35] <un_operateur> pr3d4t0r, yea, i dont like turkey either -- but my grandad would have a fit if we didnt cook it -- he's had turkey for christmas 91 years in a row -- so you can see, its important :)
[06:35] <apokryphos> !ask
[06:35] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:35] <pr3d4t0r> un_operateur: Ah.
[06:35] <mc__> pr3d4t0r: are you the pr3d4t0r ?
[06:35] <MrSprout> Ok, how do I move things around in my upper taskbar?
[06:35] <pr3d4t0r> un_operateur: Grilled duck breast, after marinating overnight in a mix of chopped garlic, onion, soy sauce, and a bit of chilli pepper.
[06:35] <MrSprout> Gnome Network manager isn't showing. but it's running..
[06:36] <pr3d4t0r> un_operateur: Hot grill, 4 minutes per side.
[06:36] <un_operateur> pr3d4t0r, you sound like a chef more than an IT person .. ha ha
[06:36] <pr3d4t0r> un_operateur: The centre will be nice and rare.
[06:36] <KageSenshi> MrSprout, try killing your gnome-panel
[06:36] <pr3d4t0r> un_operateur: LOL
[06:36] <pr3d4t0r> un_operateur: I like my food.
[06:36] <MrSprout> How do I do that?
[06:36] <pr3d4t0r> un_operateur: Google for:  how to eat sushi
[06:36] <un_operateur> pr3d4t0r, I can see -- :)
[06:36] <un_operateur> pr3d4t0r, aye, i've already done that :d
[06:36] <MrSprout> (I'm really new to all this)
[06:36] <pr3d4t0r> un_operateur: The first link is mine too.  That's the highest rated sushi guide in the world now :)
[06:36] <pyrokenx> Hey all, anyone that uses PowerPC could help me perhaps? ;p
[06:37] <un_operateur> pr3d4t0r, I know -- you asked me to do it the other day :)
[06:37] <KageSenshi> MrSprout, alt+f2 .. xkill .. click at the panel ... if the panel doesnt auto restart .. alt+f2 .. gnome-panel
[06:37] <pr3d4t0r> un_operateur: I went back to training three weeks ago.  I've lost about 10 lbs.  Still 40 to go.  I love being in shape, but I love my food too :\
[06:37] <pr3d4t0r> WTF....
[06:37] <KageSenshi> netsync?
[06:37] <Gosha> ...
[06:38] <Gosha> !ops
[06:38] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!
[06:38] <GreyGhost> netr split????
[06:38] <KageSenshi> haha
[06:38] <X-Ception> bots
[06:38] <pyrokenx> hah.
[06:38] <Juhaz> oh great
[06:38] <Gosha> ... >_>
[06:38] <un_operateur> REVENGE OF THE IDIOTS!!!!
[06:38] <KageSenshi> netsync i think
[06:38] <skarface> that was productive
[06:38] <bam_> Hi...I was wondering if there was a way i could transfer my amarok "ratings" of my song from on pc to another pc?
[06:38] <GreyGhost> lol ....
[06:38] <pr3d4t0r> un_operateur: He, he, he....
[06:38] <KageSenshi> then those ppl on low bandwitdh got disconnected
[06:38] <X-Ception> drone bots
[06:39] <Theory_> bam_: this is just being talked about in #amarok
[06:39] <Juhaz> spambots to boot.
[06:39] <obstfliege> when will the securiy update for FireFox & Thunderbird be in the paket list?
[06:39] <GreyGhost> !wtf
[06:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wtf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:39] <un_operateur> brb
[06:39] <pyrokenx> anyhowm again.. before the torrents of bots entering and leaving
[06:39] <pyrokenx> "Hey all, anyone that uses PowerPC could help me perhaps? ;p"
[06:39] <pr3d4t0r> un_operateur: Anyway, about the duck breasts:  put them on the grill skin down first.  That'll burn the skin and the fat off, then turn them.  Remove the skin when you're ready to serve them.  The meat will be very lean.
[06:40] <apokryphos> quux: there are many of them in -unregged
[06:42] <un_operateur> pr3d4t0r, yea, that's something my dad kept trying to teach me -- i never was interested in cooking and always lent a deaf ear -- i could never understand how ssomething so non-algorithmic could churn out scrumptious food :) :d
[06:43] <gharz> guys, what's the equivalent command for 'ipconfig /all' in linux? i want to know my ip add & gateway add. i'm using dhcp.
[06:43] <BearPerson> sorry about those
[06:43] <gharz> thanks
[06:43] <GreyGhost> are bots getting kicked out or something?
[06:43] <gharz> iwconfig
[06:43] <gharz> ?
[06:43] <pr3d4t0r> gharz: ifconfig
[06:43] <un_operateur> GreyGhost, doesnt look like it
[06:43] <BearPerson> gharz, you're looking for "ifconfig -a" and "route -n"
[06:43] <pr3d4t0r> gharz: ifconfig by itself
[06:43] <gharz> thanks so much for the info!!!
[06:44] <pr3d4t0r> gharz: You will see eth0, lo, and any other interfaces that you configured.
[06:44] <pr3d4t0r> gharz: :)
[06:44] <GreyGhost> un_operateur , k ... weird though.... never seen that before... at least not affter that large server hub reset by freenode....
[06:44] <pr3d4t0r> gharz: Be careful with ifconfig because you can also bring NICs down/up yourself.
[06:44] <gharz> pr3d4t0r, thanks for the info!!!
[06:45] <pr3d4t0r> gharz: You can turn off a NIC by saying things like ifconfig eth0 down - read the man page.
[06:45] <un_operateur> GreyGhost, it's been happening in here almost everyday now -- it's those damn yahoo lUsers
[06:45] <gharz> pr3d4t0r, thanks!!! it helps!
[06:46] <un_operateur> bbiaf
[06:46] <obstfliege> when will the securiy update for FireFox & Thunderbird be in the paket list?
[06:47] <GreyGhost> un_operateur , ahh.... i c ... i ,ust have been missing those...
[06:47] <pr3d4t0r> OKi, time to eject.
[06:47] <pr3d4t0r> Have a great day, gang.
[06:47] <pr3d4t0r> Er... and a Merry Christmas!  Kwanza!  Hannukah! Etc.
[06:48] <pr3d4t0r> See ya.
[06:49] <alecjw> very quiet here...
[06:50] <alecjw> m,y 1024 high screen would usually be full by now
[06:50] <naelphin> For some reason my automount has stopped working. how can i start troubleshooting?
[06:51] <Zahrber> #linux
[06:52] <atoponce> http://www.digg.com/software/Software_for_Starving_Students_2007_01_Released
[06:52] <DigitalNinja> Does anyone have any thoughts on easyubuntu?
[06:53] <DigitalNinja> Good bad?
[06:53] <Zahrber> easy worked for me on 6.06 LTS
[06:53] <Gosha> bagood
[06:53] <Zahrber> good
[06:53] <DigitalNinja> Zahrber: It's worked for me as well. However, it changes sources.list
[06:53] <Zahrber> I used automatix2 and it froze on me easy completed
[06:54] <Zahrber> yes it adds repositories after it completed I removed the repositories
[06:54] <cmweb> un_operateur, wouldent it be asyer to make an account on here and then have the windows machine access it, instead of haveing the windows account on here (different file systems)
[06:54] <DigitalNinja> Zahrber: Do you still get updates for everything easy installed
[06:55] <Zahrber> No I have to comment the repositories to get updates
[06:55] <Zahrber> uncomment
[06:55] <Zahrber> my philosophy is as long as it works I go with it without updates
[06:55] <slkdjfa> Hello
[06:55] <Zahrber> security updates is my only updates
[06:56] <DigitalNinja> Zahrber: Isee
[06:56] <Zahrber> some people get so caught up in updates if it works wait for updates
[06:56] <cmweb> How do i access swat?
[06:56] <Zahrber> I am gonna stay with 6.06 til it expires
[06:57] <DigitalNinja> Zahrber: Ture! However, if the update comes out and you don't have sources.list configured to get them you get nothing.
[06:58] <Zahrber> Yes uncommenting the easyubuntu repositories takes me all of 30 seconds then I run synaptic
[06:58] <kibab> quick question, anybody know how I can make logwatch ignore the timestamp in my syslog output: http://rafb.net/p/3UlMU824.html
[06:58] <DigitalNinja> Zahrber: I'm just trying to make thise easy for people who don't know LInux/command line very well.
[06:58] <Zahrber> i run gksudo gedit then uncomment and save then after updates i comment then save and close gedit DONE
[06:59] <kibab> or... how I can make syslog output something more reasonable?
[06:59] <un_operateur> kibab, you want the timestamp's removed??
[06:59] <DigitalNinja> Zahrber: Is it safe to leave them uncommented?
[07:00] <Zahrber> all they need to know is gksudo gedit and then uncomment ## and recomment ##
[07:00] <kibab> un_operateur: not really, but it because of the way logwatch handles it, it can't group the similar entries
[07:00] <Zahrber> I just prefer ubuntu repositories over all others unless I need a certain package and then I get it off the website usually
[07:00] <un_operateur> kibab, ok, so what is it you really want? :)
[07:01] <DigitalNinja> Zahrber: I see. Playing it safe.
[07:01] <Zahrber> if  run into dependencies HELL then I use synaptic universe multiverse
[07:01] <kibab> un_operateur: is there a way that I can change it from [number.number]  to "Dec 22 02:03:01" or something such?
[07:02] <TechCentric-Will> if i do something like cp -dvR /crap1/* /crap2/ will that copy all the hidden and system files as well ?
[07:02] <DigitalNinja> Zahrber: I just uncomment everything :)
[07:02] <kibab> un_operateur: because [xxxxxxx.yyyyyy]  just isn't human readable, and apparently that's what logwatch has a problem with
[07:02] <cmweb> How do i access Swat?
[07:02] <Zahrber> go to menu and software preferences and you don't have to use command line it is a GUI for repositories
[07:02] <un_operateur> kibab, well, sure it's definitely possible -- but i dont know how to interpret those numbers
[07:02] <un_operateur> kibab, do you know how?
[07:03] <DigitalNinja> Zahrber: I found that confusing
[07:03] <jbroome> cmweb: localhost:901
[07:03] <Zahrber> depends on how many repositories you have make sure you have no duplicate repositories synaptic usually doesn't like that
[07:03] <Gosha> i'm trying to run acm4 and i keep getting this error : Sound is not available for server :0.0 .. and i when running it says " this server supports netaudio " .. what ecxactly is that netaudio?
[07:03] <kibab> un_operateur: no... ubuntu is the only distro that I have seen so far that does that?
[07:03] <un_operateur> cmweb, if swats configured right -- http://localhost:901
[07:03] <kibab> un_operateur: and I don't see anything strange in the syslog.conf file that would make it output that way
[07:03] <DigitalNinja> Zahrber: I've done htat. Had to edit sorces.list and find the extras
[07:03] <rtfm__> which package should i apt-get for wlanconfig ?
[07:04] <LeGreffi3R> re
[07:04] <Kesman> rtfm__: try apt-cache search wlan | more
[07:04] <un_operateur> kibab, syslog AFAIK does not do that -- it's the kernel
[07:04] <cmweb> un_operateur: i dont guess it is becuse i installed it via synaptic and i went to the page and got a notfound
[07:04] <Zahrber> firstly I use Gnome WM and on Gnome you can go to System-->Admininstration-->Software Prferences and it has a list of your REP from you source.list file
[07:04] <rtfm__> Kesman, nothing
[07:04] <DigitalNinja> Well, time to do an install
[07:04] <Kesman> well, try with wireless
[07:04] <kibab> un_operateur: hmm... and it's a default ubuntu kernel...
[07:04] <rtfm__> i have wireless-tools
[07:04] <rtfm__> i need wlanconfig for atheros
[07:05] <un_operateur> kibab, ubuntu doesnt do kernels -- linux does :)
[07:05] <manmadha> hii my friend had written some files from my computer....How to trace the list of files..?
[07:05] <DigitalNinja> Be back when my workstation is built
[07:05] <un_operateur> kibab, one sec -- let me ask up in #debian
[07:05] <Zahrber> good luck
[07:05] <cmweb> un_operateur: how do i setup swat?
[07:05] <DigitalNinja> Zahrber: Let me check
[07:05] <kibab> un_operateur: let me rephrase -- it's the default ubuntu-configured kernel :)
[07:05] <wkerzend> anyone got experience raid 5 on asus p5b and ubuntu? when I install from desktop cd it doesnt recognise the raid array. help appreciated.
[07:05] <un_operateur> cmweb,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure --priority low swat
[07:06] <Zahrber> Software Properties actually SORRY
[07:06] <deebu> i cant find mplayer in repos...im on dapper...plz help
[07:06] <DigitalNinja> Zahrber: That's not bad
[07:06] <deebu> i cant find mplayer in repos...im on dapper...plz help
[07:06] <tomcatt> !ubotu wifi
[07:06] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:06] <kibab> wkerzend: you should be abe to lspci and find out exactly what's being used for raid... then you just have to see if you can find a kernel module for it
[07:06] <DigitalNinja> zahrber: I was using the one in synaptic.
[07:06] <un_operateur> kibab, which file did you pull that excerpt out of?
[07:06] <DigitalNinja> I don't like that one
[07:06] <wkerzend> kibab: and How do I compile the kernel before installing
[07:06] <Gosha> .. what is netaudio?
[07:06] <un_operateur> kibab, dmesg?
[07:07] <marius__> hey, I have a Software Updates window that's stuck, doesn't respond to anything... and prevents me from turning off the computer. Anyone have an idea what to do about it?
[07:07] <Zahrber> that one is easy to use, I prefer the source.list and gedit myself but if someone prefers GUI it is very quick and easy
[07:07] <cmweb> un_operateur, i did sudo dpkg-reconfigure --priority low swat and it just gave a screen i clicked ok and it went back to term
[07:07] <deebu> i cant find mplayer in repos...im on dapper...plz help
[07:07] <kibab> deebu: it's in the multiverse repository
[07:07] <cmweb>  un_operateur, but i still can not access
[07:07] <kibab> un_operateur: you want some dmesg output/
[07:07] <kibab> un_operateur: s,/,?,
[07:07] <DigitalNinja> Zahrber: Thanks for all the info. it's time for me to reinstall my workstation. I'm moving to a better system.
[07:08] <wkerzend> kibab: Intel Sata controller AHCI isnt that supported by edgy?
[07:08] <Zahrber> you can add and edit REPOs very easy there
[07:08] <logox> hi all
[07:08] <jontec> sound does not work (amd64, edgy, gateway MX6446 laptop)! (I have tried a few methods... If you can help then I will give you a make a pastebin of the stuff I have tried)
[07:08] <kibab> wkerzend: I'm not sure... do you know how to compile kernels?
[07:08] <manmadha> hii my friend had written some files from my computer....How to trace the list of files..?
[07:08] <CitizenUnderdog> Is there someone that could assist me with an external USB HDD question?
[07:08] <manmadha> any ideas?
[07:08] <wkerzend> yes I do
[07:09] <wkerzend> kibab: yes I do
[07:09] <deebu> how do i add multiverse repository???
[07:09] <wkerzend> kibab: but I have never done it before installing the system on the mainboard
[07:09] <manmadha> it is possible..?
[07:09] <deebu> how do i add multiverse repository???
[07:09] <Gosha> .. what is netaudio?
[07:09] <beatriz> Hola
[07:09] <Gosha> oh
[07:10] <Centaur5> I just installed Edgy on a laptop with intel 2200 wireless and I was able to connect to wpa until after rebooting it no longer connects because it keeps giving a problem with the keyring. What can I do?
[07:10] <Kira> In Ubuntu, is it possible to do per user and/or per application bandwidth administration?
[07:10] <Gosha> i allready pressed enter
[07:10] <kibab> un_operateur: here's a paste with some dmesg output: http://rafb.net/p/NNw5Bq38.html
[07:10] <kibab> un_operateur: the EXT: lines are from iptables (not that it matters)
[07:10] <cmweb> un_operateur: i did what you said but i still can not connect
[07:10] <kibab> deebu: man sources.list
[07:10] <deebu> man sources.list
[07:11] <deebu> kibab, anyone give me the URL of multiverse repo??
[07:11] <mint> im using mint linux, it aint so great
[07:11] <kibab> deebu: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[07:11] <un_operateur> kibab, I know what dmesg does -- i just dont know how the times are structured -- if i did, i could help convert them to a human readable format
[07:11] <kibab> Kira: not really...
[07:12] <Xaro> Hey all
[07:12] <un_operateur> !swat
[07:12] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:12] <un_operateur> cmweb ^^^
[07:12] <kibab> un_operateur: ok... I didn't know what you were asking
[07:12] <h0ndaracer2> how can i get my firefox browser to work with flash player because i did all kinds of stuff and it still dosnt work
[07:12] <cmweb> un_operateur: did that ben their nothing
[07:13] <un_operateur> h0ndaracer2, just make sure there's the flash plugin in your /usr/lib/firefox/plugins  directory
[07:13] <lartz> help me  i cant find wine in ubuntu. my friend helped me but he sad that my ubuntu is retard.
[07:13] <h0ndaracer2> their is
[07:13] <h0ndaracer2> the newest one
[07:13] <h0ndaracer2> and it still doesnt work right
[07:13] <deebu> this channel aint that helpful as it used to be
[07:13] <KoolAid2> http://tinyurl.com/yfkm37
[07:13] <green_earz> Kira: have a look at shorewall for traffic shaping, it may have what you need ?
[07:13] <CitizenUnderdog> deebu: one sec... I have a link for you
[07:14] <h0ndaracer2> ive even upgraded firefox to the newest version
[07:14] <Svenstaro> no shorewall dude, ipcop or m0n0wall all the way
[07:15] <CitizenUnderdog> deebu: Add multiverse? Try this link...   http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=320277&highlight=multiverse+add
[07:15] <un_operateur> cmweb, I'd help you resolve this -- but then i wouldnt be helping you because you would learn to independently troubleshoot -- why dont you try your best and if you still get stuck then ask me about it
[07:15] <cmweb> un_operateur: i just did a port scan and my port 901 is closed
[07:15] <CitizenUnderdog> Is there someone that could assist me with an external USB HDD question?
[07:15] <un_operateur> cmweb, ok, so why do you think the port scan failed?
[07:15] <kibab> cmweb: a port scan on localhost and <otherhostname> can be different depending on the firewall
[07:15] <marius__> hey, I have a Software Updates window that's stuck, doesn't respond to anything... and prevents me from turning off the computer. Anyone have an idea what to do about it?
[07:15] <deebu> CitizenUnderdog, thx buddy
[07:16] <kibab> cmweb: you might be better doing: netstat -an | grep :901
[07:16] <kibab> cmweb: that will tell you if it's actually listening and, if so, on what interfaces
[07:16] <cmweb> Port 901 is confirmed closed, but my firestarted is not active i dont think
[07:16] <mint> Citizien, whats up?
[07:17] <mint> Citizen, Whats up?
[07:17] <heya0007> hey anyone here know o any menu based shell? so i can provide user a restric number of menu based commands
[07:18] <Kira> thanks green_earz
[07:18] <un_operateur> kibab, so no idea how those times are structured? I cant seem to find out how..
[07:18] <kibab> un_operateur: same here :(
[07:18] <mint> Citizen, whats the deal?
[07:19] <mint> peace
[07:19] <kibab> wkerzend: what you might do is pull up menuconfig or xconfig and find out what the option is that supports that card
[07:19] <CitizenUnderdog> Mint: Thank for the assist
[07:19] <PingunZ_> Can someone help me settting up a dynamic dns ? ( I have already installed LAMP and registred my dns domain ) I just need somekind of script to update my ip  ( I'm using freedns )
[07:19] <CitizenUnderdog> I have external USB HDD
[07:19] <mint> yes
[07:19] <CitizenUnderdog> It automounted
[07:19] <kibab> wkerzend: then let me know and I'll check to see if it's in the default config (either as a module, builtin, etc.)
[07:19] <CitizenUnderdog> looks okay, but when I attempt to copy a file to it it says I don't have permission
[07:19] <CitizenUnderdog> I tried sudo cp from command line but no joy...
[07:19] <mint> what format is the partition in?
[07:20] <CitizenUnderdog> NTFS
[07:20] <mint> there ya go
[07:20] <mint> Ubuntu can't write to NTFS
[07:20] <mint> re-format it to Fat32
[07:20] <mint> well, linux for that matter can't write to NTFS
[07:20] <h0ndaracer2> !adobe flash player
[07:20] <idlemind> hmm; i thought you could; it was just not all that stable
[07:20] <CitizenUnderdog> Mint: I have a 13 gig file to write... Fat32 file limit size right?
[07:21] <mint> Citizen: Im not sure
[07:21] <idlemind> but the last time i looked into was like a year and a half ago
[07:21] <mint> Citizen: whats 13 gigs?
[07:21] <idlemind> and yes you won't be able to write that to a fat32
[07:21] <romeo> linux can't write in NTFS
[07:21] <CitizenUnderdog> 13 gig video file....
[07:21] <romeo> because NTFS is for Windows
[07:22] <idlemind> and so is office 2k3 but that runs in linux
[07:22] <mint> Citizen, think you can convert it? or are you working with it?
[07:22] <romeo> and this format is compressed
[07:22] <kibab> CitizenUnderdog: there are a couple different NTFS modules, one of them allows writes but it's dangerous (eg. don't do it)
[07:22] <kibab> CitizenUnderdog: the other allows you to write but has certain caveats about the type of things and size that can be written, IIRC
[07:22] <idlemind> w00t for unstable writing
[07:23] <romeo> this is true!!!
[07:23] <kibab> idlemind: w00t for a forced Linux upgrade ;)
[07:23] <CitizenUnderdog> What about ntfs-3g?
[07:23] <idlemind> citizen: try a google for ntfs-3g
[07:23] <adam0509> please take a look at my thread : http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=11601983
[07:23] <idlemind> lol;
[07:23] <idlemind> same time i said it
[07:23] <marius__> hey, I have a Software Updates window that's stuck, doesn't respond to anything... and prevents me from turning off the computer. Anyone have an idea what to do about it?
[07:23] <romeo> why can you read files in NTFS and can't write this???
[07:24] <idlemind> lol; citizen that suppossedly can do read/write more stable
[07:24] <PFA> my internet connection is being incredibly slow. i have a dual-boot system and another comp on this router, and both windows and the other comp are fine. all cords are plugged in correctly, and there is no lag on IRC after i have connected, but it takes upwards of ten minutes to connect.
[07:24] <CitizenUnderdog> NTFS read-only seems to be fine...
[07:24] <adam0509> romeo, => cause Linux can't write good on NTFS
[07:24] <idlemind> http://www.ntfs-3g.org
[07:24] <adam0509> There's tool for writting for NTFS but they are not 100% safe...
[07:24] <adam0509> (only 99% ;) )
[07:24] <CitizenUnderdog> I installed ntfs-3g using apt-get
[07:25] <idlemind> ntfs-3g claims that no data has been lost with the beta driver during read/write trials
[07:25] <lartz> someone please give me some help. my ubuntu is wrong or somthing .. i dont have wine. :/
[07:25] <idlemind> citizen i'd say give it a whirl; i'm unaware of the file-size limits of ntfs; i could do a google though
[07:25] <wkerzend> anyone had any luck installing ubuntu on a ahci raid 5? thanks in advance
[07:25] <CitizenUnderdog> here is what my mount output says....   /dev/sda1 on /media/120Gig_USB type ntfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[07:25] <adam0509> so why isn't ntfs-3g still on "beta" and not included in Ubuntu ? ;)
[07:25] <NEWNEO> lartz whats wrong?
[07:26] <mc__> what is missing in this case:Checking for convert...  no.
[07:26] <CitizenUnderdog> I know that 13gig files are cool on NTFS...
[07:26] <mc__> I took this output from the OS-L Iconset buildpath script
[07:26] <NEWNEO> i know ntfs sucks
[07:26] <idlemind> citizen: should allow right access then killer
[07:26] <romeo> The problem is that the files has a header, who has 32 bits for said his size
[07:26] <mint> Citizen, are you using linux exclusively? and is it installed on your HD?
[07:26] <lartz> newneo i dont have wine and i cant get so im root..
[07:26] <PFA> my internet connection is being incredibly slow. i have a dual-boot system and another comp on this router, and both windows and the other comp are fine. all cords are plugged in correctly, and there is no lag on IRC after i have connected, but it takes upwards of ten minutes to connect. can anyone help me?
[07:26] <un_operateur> kibab, looks like i found it -- http://tree.celinuxforum.org/CelfPubWiki/PrintkTimes
[07:26] <adam0509> by the way, what's best for a 80G partition : FAT32 or NTFS ? (excepting the fact that you can easyly write on FAT32)
[07:27] <jdavidboyd> i'm using the alternate install CD, and everytime I see all the X server stuff get installed, then, right around 6%, the screen says "Please wait", and sits there.  Is there something I can do to find out exactly what is hanging up?
[07:27] <NEWNEO> any system that reverts to pio mode after so many errors in chkdsk is fucked up
[07:27] <CitizenUnderdog> brb...
[07:27] <Seveas> !language | newman
[07:27] <ubotu> newman: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:27] <Seveas> !language | NEWNEO
[07:27] <ubotu> NEWNEO: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:27] <romeo> and Linux can't work with size upper 4 GB
[07:27] <adam0509> pio mode = ?
[07:27] <compengi> i want to install .bin file. i set -x permission to the file and tried to run it by ./file.bin in the terminal but i've got bash: ./file.bin: Permission denied =/
[07:27] <adam0509> I didn't get any trouble with NTFS since I'm using Ubuntu with dual-boot...
[07:27] <NEWNEO> instead of DMA or Ultra DMA
[07:28] <adam0509> I don't know if it's come from Windows or Linux... that's strange...
[07:28] <kibab> un_operateur: CONFIG_PRINTK_TIME=y
[07:28] <un_operateur> compengi, whats the output of this command  --  head -n 1 ./file.bin  ??
[07:28] <kibab> un_operateur: that's from the kernel config file :(
[07:28] <NEWNEO> really large ntfs disks and at more risk
[07:28] <romeo> I'm sorry. I'm a spanish boy, I've got a lot of problem for understand your language
[07:28] <mc__> !es
[07:28] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[07:28] <idlemind> citizen: just checked; ntfs has no file size constraint so it's a green light let us know how it turns out
[07:28] <kibab> un_operateur: so I probably would have seen it on my other linux boxes (if their hardware hadn't died)
[07:28] <romeo> but I think that I'm understanding you
[07:29] <compengi> un_operateur, i didn't get you
[07:29] <lartz> NEWNEO: i dont have wine and i cant get so i'm root. how tha hell am i gonna go to get it right.. i'm just a 4h noob so be jental. :P
[07:29] <un_operateur> kibab, if you read on -- it says the times are a floating point number from the time the kernel printk started -- so they arent a representation of actual time
[07:29] <kibab> un_operateur: thanks for finding that, my googling wasn't successfull
[07:29] <kibab> un_operateur: right, they measure time between ops, which is useful whent you know they should be consecutive or what's supposed to happen between two output lines
[07:30] <un_operateur> compengi,   run the command and tell us what the output is -- it'll help us understand why it's failing to execute
[07:30] <compengi> un_operateur, :~/Downloads$ ./bypass_client_linux.bin
[07:30] <compengi> bash: ./bypass_client_linux.bin: Permission denied
[07:30] <un_operateur> kibab, correct -- so it's possible to represent that figure in actual time if you know when exactly printk was first invoked
[07:31] <un_operateur> compengi,   head -n 1 ./bypass_client_linux.bin
[07:31] <lartz> :'(
[07:31] <mrlinux> it apperars that i can only connect to the internet if i have my firefox open eg. i can't download packages in synaptic but i can when firefox is open
[07:31] <romeo> compengi, you must be root
[07:31] <compengi> romeo, but is it safe to run it as root?
[07:32] <un_operateur> compengi, what does the package do?
[07:32] <kibab> wkerzend: you might need to install onto a non-raid drive, get a custom kernel up and running, then dup over to the raid drive, then make sure that you have a proper initrd that can boot to the raid drive, and then use that kernel...
[07:32] <kibab> wkerzend: but that's not trivial, although not entirely difficult either
[07:32] <romeo> I don't know!!!
[07:32] <compengi> un_operateur, it's for proxy
[07:32] <mrlinux> it apperars that i can only connect to the internet if i have my firefox open eg. i can't download packages in synaptic but i can when firefox is open
[07:32] <un_operateur> compengi, it probably needs to be run as root then
[07:32] <compengi> un_operateur, sudo ./bypass_client_linux.bin
[07:32] <compengi> Password:
[07:32] <compengi> sudo: ./bypass_client_linux.bin: command not found
[07:33] <cmweb> ok how do i setup a domain with out swat?
[07:33] <romeo> I think that you know this package!!!
[07:33] <lartz> romeo: how do i person do so they are root.. please tell me.. :-$
[07:33] <NEWNEO> su
[07:33] <NEWNEO> or sudo bash
[07:33] <cjar1> Hi, I put the HD where I had ubuntu server installed to new mobo, is there something I should reconfigure now? because it doesnt load anything at startup
[07:33] <lartz> okey thnx. :D
[07:33] <romeo> if you write: su
[07:34] <romeo> and write the root's pass
[07:34] <NEWNEO> if you just want a root terminal just type in sudo bash and password
[07:34] <romeo> appear you: user@ubuntu:~#
[07:34] <un_operateur> compengi, It seems to me you are either writing the filename down wrong or it's not executable
[07:35] <un_operateur> romeo, su doesnt work on ubuntu by default
[07:35] <lartz> god damn ubuntu  Authentication failure why do i get that when i type the right password.. god damn retard Os.
[07:35] <NEWNEO>  user@ubuntu:~# sudo bash ...... will turn into root@ubuntu:~#
[07:35] <romeo> no
[07:35] <wkerzend> kibab: thanks man will try that tomorrow, btw merry christmas
[07:35] <romeo> ubuntu need to start (default) an user
[07:35] <compengi> un_operateur, but i pressed tab and he completed the name for me =/
[07:35] <NEWNEO> your password is wrong
[07:35] <un_operateur> lartz, were you trying to su?
[07:36] <romeo> who has permit or no
[07:36] <lartz> termina
[07:36] <jpjacobs> lartz, if using sudo, the right pass is the users pass, not the root pass
[07:36] <NEWNEO> or you have caps lock maybe
[07:36] <lartz> terminal*
[07:36] <romeo> but anytime with the root user
[07:36] <kibab> wkerzend: you too :)
[07:37] <un_operateur> compengi, try and run it in a superuser shell
[07:37] <NEWNEO> huge party with 4 bonfires this on the 31!
[07:37] <bosozoku> my firefox in Eft is unstable as all hell
[07:37] <NEWNEO> its gonna be awsome
[07:37] <un_operateur> compengi, or perhaps -- chmod a+x ./file.bin; sudo ./file.bin
[07:37] <bosozoku> it used to crash with Flash animations
[07:37] <bosozoku> fixed that
[07:37] <romeo> lartz, is a user who has permission of root
[07:37] <lartz> yes thnx omg you dont know how long me and my friend has
[07:38] <lartz> tryed
[07:38] <bosozoku> but now it freezes randomly with the "loading" icon
[07:38] <bosozoku> you can click on the X in the right corner to close it via Force Quit
[07:38] <bosozoku> but you have to do that quite often (a few times per hour!)
[07:40] <mrlinux> i need major help fresh install and i can't evan open a file browser window to see my home folders
[07:40] <NEWNEO> 6.10?
[07:40] <mrlinux> NEWNEO, you talking to me
[07:41] <romeo> hay palabras que no me entero de n!!!!
[07:41] <Red-Sox> Any Linux Mint users here?
[07:42] <un_operateur> compengi, it is indeed this -- chmod a+x bypass_client_linux.bin ; sudo ./bypass_client_linux.bin
[07:42] <un_operateur> !es | romeo
[07:42] <ubotu> romeo: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[07:42] <mrlinux> naultlis fails it wont load
[07:42] <compengi> un_operateur, yeah it worked
[07:42] <compengi> ty
[07:42] <mrlinux> so what do i do
[07:42] <un_operateur> compengi, yw :)
[07:43] <romeo> the best, you can write: chmod 777 bypass_cliente_linux.bin
[07:43] <__mikem> I can't get my monitor to display at 1280x1024 and I tried modifying the xorg.conf file and everything.
[07:43] <un_operateur> romeo, thats the same as chmod a+x
[07:43] <romeo> yes, but this is simplest
[07:43] <frogzoo> !fixres | __mikem
[07:43] <ubotu> __mikem: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:43] <lartz> Okey this isnt working for me i'm trying to change sources.list as my friend tld me to do. but its not working. he sad that i was to change all doppler to edgy is that right?
[07:44] <mrlinux> naultlis fails it wont load
[07:44] <un_operateur> romeo, 777 is the simplest to convert in your head -- but whats this in octal ??  chmod u+rw  ??
[07:44] <Xaro> Hello all
[07:44] <cyphase> why does nautilus not have tabs?
[07:44] <regeya> change all *dapper* to edgy
[07:44] <CitizenUnderdog> Hello, all... I'm still having trouble mounting an external USB NTFS partition as read/write... Anyone have ideas?
[07:44] <cmweb> YEAH i got swat
[07:45] <gouki> Testing something: write
[07:45] <Xaro> USB NTFS?, is ti an external HD?
[07:45] <idlemind> citizen: I'll be back in like an hour and half; if your still on and haven't got it we'll take alook
[07:45] <CitizenUnderdog> Xaro: yes external usb
[07:45] <cyphase> CitizenUnderdog: Ubuntu does not have write support for NTFS. only reading
[07:45] <CitizenUnderdog> Idlemind: thanks!
[07:45] <cyphase> CitizenUnderdog: there is something called..
[07:45] <cyphase> !ntfs-3g
[07:45] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[07:46] <idlemind> p.s. he has ntfs-3g installed i think
[07:46] <CitizenUnderdog> I installed ntfs-3g via apt-get....
[07:46] <romeo> un_operateur, you must think about this, r -> 1 , w-> 1 x->1==> 1 1 1 = 7 in binary
[07:46] <lartz> okey . but when i'm trying to save it tells me i cant save becues i'm not root. aperently. grrrr >:o
[07:46] <CitizenUnderdog> Let me take a look at the link ubotu sent...
[07:47] <mrlinux> un_operateur, go to http://linux-commands.com
[07:47] <romeo> so, you don't have that know the 'u', 'a', 'r'
[07:47] <romeo> this is ugly
[07:47] <finn_> got the apple wireless keyboard working :D
[07:47] <finn_> now all I need to get done is have it pair automatically when I turn it on/off or reboot
[07:47] <jeeves_Moss> frogzoo:  you're still here!!  good
[07:49] <regeya> wow, what a jerk.
[07:49] <lartz> someone from sweden in here?
[07:49] <mrlinux> so can anyone help me
[07:49] <cmweb> ok how do i setup a domain controller (as said in the #windows IRC)
[07:49] <regeya> !ask
[07:49] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:49] <jeeves_Moss> frogzoo:  do you have a few mins to help me write a small script?
[07:49] <shwag> I got the JRE and JDK installed.  where do I find the mysql connector ?
[07:49] <raparigo> alguna chica q hable espaol???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[07:49] <un_operateur> mrlinux, romeo I know exactly how to use octal numbers -- i'm just saying u+rw is easier to write down quick over 600
[07:50] <Xaro> Could someone help me with this?
[07:50] <Xaro> https://answers.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+ticket/2900
[07:50] <Vox754> !espanol
[07:50] <romeo> reparigo
[07:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about espanol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:50] <Vox754> !spanish
[07:50] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[07:50] <Prusik> !french
[07:50] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:50] <romeo> raparigo, que dificil es hablar el ingles, no??? I'm sorry
[07:51] <raparigo> mucho
[07:51] <romeo> yes
[07:51] <romeo> this is true
[07:51] <finn_> can I get the "apple key" to funktion as "alt" ??
[07:51] <jeeves_Moss> all:  is anyone here any good @ writing scripts?  I'd like to make a single button launch for my wardriving programs.
[07:51] <refus3d> he yes
[07:52] <lartz> and im swedish ok now we know that is ther someeone from sweden here that is the man of all unix/linux/ubuntu Os!!! please send me an PM
[07:52] <romeo> un_operateur, but this seems easier, do you think???
[07:52] <Xaro> Help someone please - https://answers.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+ticket/2900
[07:52] <mrlinux> nautilus fails it wont load
[07:52] <black27696> is there a reason that the java installer puts a folder on my desktop? (I need to get it working for firefox, I left ubuntu for a while, now I'm back, can't remember how I set everything up)
[07:52] <Stone321> lartz vad
[07:53] <Stone321> lartz /j #ubuntu-se
[07:53] <lartz> Stone321 mitt ubuntu r cp jag kommer inte in som root och jag har tydligen inte wine sa min polare.
[07:54] <lartz> ahaa..
[07:54] <Stone321> lartz om du vill prata p svenska g in p #ubutu-se
[07:54] <jbroome> bork bork bork
[07:54] <calvin_> lol
[07:54] <Stone321> cheff is in the house
[07:55] <D7k> the swedish cheff?
[07:55] <cmweb> Netspit
[07:55] <cmweb> i think
[07:55] <Lam_> how do you list the directory of cdrom0? it mounts correctly and i can see it in my file browser, but i can't seem to do anything within /media/cdrom0 with the terminal
[07:55] <Stone321> ls -la
[07:56] <Lam_> tried that
[07:56] <romeo> bye, the english girl are antipticas
[07:56] <fromvega> Hello
[07:57] <romeo> bye, bye, girl
[07:57] <cmweb> Any one how do i set up a domain controller for samba?
[07:58] <jpjacobs> !paste>jpjacobs
[07:58] <green_earz> Lam_: the mount point that you are looking in may not be the one ?  to check whats the cdrom mount point use the command : mount    and see if its mounted
[07:59] <fromvega> I'm configuring a small office network with iptables. I'm using static ip for the network clients. I would like to know how to be able to handle names instead of ips. I'll use BIND, but I'm confused. The clients need to use the server ip as the dns server? And what about domains outside the internal network, how they will be handled?
[07:59] <Hatty> There is an X error repeated over and over throughout my ~/.xesssion-errors file: http://pastebin.ca/288952 Would that cause my system to freeze/crash?
[07:59] <aa> Hatty  8 8 6
[08:00] <Hatty> ?
[08:00] <quentin-Aixenpce> Bonsoir
[08:00] <Lam_> green_earz: i'm pretty sure it's mounted to the right point. i can see the exact same directory in my file browser, but the terminal yields no list result
[08:00] <Hatty> aa ?
[08:01] <IceGuest_7> hey guys, ndiswrapper giving me a hard time. My card kept going in and out so i "marked all for complete removal" through synaptec, did it, rebooted, now ndiswrapper is telling me the driver i need to install is "already installed" and when i try to uninstall it, it tells me its not installed.....kinda lost.
[08:01] <CitizenUnderdog> Okay all... I'm back with results on my NTFS External HDD. I think it is working... anyone interested in my steps?
[08:01] <smallGoat> and ndiswrapper -l hangs indefinately
[08:02] <smallGoat> hrm..maybe not...sec..
[08:02] <petafile> I'm running linuxmint(which I guess is pretty much ubuntu w/ codecs) and I got my wireless card working fine, then I rebooted and it stopped working :(.  I think i deleted the panel thing that lets you select wired/wireless and shows all the available networks.  WHat's it called?
[08:03] <smallGoat> you on gnome peta?
[08:03] <smallGoat> network-manager-gnome i believe
[08:03] <CitizenUnderdog> Okay all... I'm back with results on my NTFS External HDD. I think it is working... anyone interested in my steps?
[08:03] <smallGoat> kinda but not really ;)
[08:03] <__mikem> Sorry guys, it turns out that the video card in this monitor is incapable of high resolutions and thats why what I was doing wasn't working
[08:03] <petafile> smallGoat: got it
[08:03] <petafile> sorry, yes gnome
[08:03] <petafile> lemme check on network-manager
[08:04] <smallGoat> (-gnome is in the name too)
[08:04] <Hatty> There is an X error repeated over and over throughout my ~/.xesssion-errors file: http://pastebin.ca/288952 Would that cause my system to freeze/crash?
[08:04] <aa> Hatty  8 8 6
[08:04] <flevour> after upgrading to fiesty, the automounting features are all off. no hard disk icons on desktop, not even home/trash/computer folders, no automounting for the ipod, what could it be?
[08:04] <elTigre> Hi
[08:04] <neuratix> hmm, anyone know a good drawing program for linux?
[08:04] <petafile> smallGoat: its not in the add to panel menu?
[08:04] <smallGoat> bah, if ndiswrapper sees "driver installed, hardware present" why isnt wlan showing up???
[08:04] <elTigre> I am using xubuntu live-cd currently but I forgot to set the correct keyboard mapping at boot time
[08:04] <CitizenUnderdog> neuratix: what kind?
[08:04] <elTigre> how can I change that now_
[08:04] <elTigre> ?
[08:04] <fromvega> how do I enable universe repository?
[08:04] <lunis> gah, nvidia-glx auto-updated, now i'm getting an API Mismatch error when I try to start X.
[08:04] <flevour> neuratix: depends on your needs?
[08:05] <neuratix> CitizenUnderdog: i like drawing vectorgraphics, like you can do with flash mx
[08:05] <CitizenUnderdog> Neuratix: There is dia... a visio like program...
[08:05] <lunis> neuratix: Inkscape
[08:05] <smallGoat> sounds like something i ran into once before linus - wish i had a fix for ya.
[08:05] <CitizenUnderdog> vectorgraphics? Hmmm.. maybe inkscape?
[08:05] <Zahrber> fromvega uncomment the repos and make sure address is correct in sources.list
[08:05] <Hatty> neuratix: GIMP (Photoshop-esque), Inkscape (Vector), Blender3D (modeling)
[08:06] <lunis> smallGoat: I've ran into it before, but I don't know at this point. :< Is there a way to tell what repo a package is coming from?
[08:06] <smallGoat> (over my head)
[08:06] <jpjacobs> neuratix, xaralx
[08:06] <petafile> smallGoat: network manager-gnome is installed, but I can't get it on the panel
[08:06] <neuratix> i haven't tried xaralx
[08:06] <smallGoat> interesting - all the "howto's" i've read say, "if everything goes well, you should have a new icon in your task bar"
[08:06] <fromvega> Zahrber: where is the file that I need to uncomment in?
[08:06] <smallGoat> sources.list
[08:06] <fromvega> :D
[08:07] <fromvega> smallGoat: where is it located?
[08:07] <fmasi> j #gaim
[08:07] <neuratix> inkscape gave me the feeling that i was drawing lots of lines no matter what
[08:07] <smallGoat> i don't remember....run "locate sources.list"
[08:07] <smallGoat> might just be in /etc/sources.list
[08:07] <Zahrber> fromvega: it is in /etc/apt/sources.list or under synaptic package manager is a Repo tab that will list all repos in your sources.list fiel for you
[08:07] <lunis> fromvega: /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:08] <cmweb> un_operatur, this is what im talking about http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=271924&highlight=Domain+Controller, know of any howtoo for this
[08:08] <fromvega> thank you all!
[08:08] <fromvega> bye
[08:08] <CitizenUnderdog> Neuratix: Take a look at Inkscape: Inkscape is an Open Source vector graphics editor, with capabilities similar to Illustrator, Freehand, CorelDraw, or Xara X using the  W3C standard Scalable Vector Graphics  (SVG) file format.
[08:08] <lunis> Zahrber beat me to it :3
[08:08] <Zahrber> lunis: first time today I am a slow typer
[08:08] <lunis> :P
[08:08] <n2diy> which sub-directories in /var should be backed up?
[08:08] <smallGoat> well, now my wifi dongle has lights..but not connecting to my network and i cant get to network-manager-gnome either :)
[08:09] <Zahrber> he sure left quick he could have found that answer in the guide easily
[08:09] <Vox754> !inkscape
[08:09] <ubotu> Inkscape is a powerful vector graphics drawing application - see http://www.inkscape.org/ for more
[08:09] <n2diy> Why is k3b locking my cdrw disks, how can I prevent it?
[08:09] <neuratix> CitizenUnderdog: yeah, but i'm looking for something with the feeling of flash mx
[08:09] <neuratix> not illustrator
[08:09] <Zahrber> neuratrix: use Flash MX under wine
[08:09] <CitizenUnderdog> Neuratix: Sorry... not familiar with either app...
[08:10] <neuratix> Zahrber: does it work well?
[08:10] <Zahrber> good project to learn some wine
[08:10] <Huggles> ah can someone help me get my wireless card working? ive been at this 3 weeks
[08:10] <Zahrber> not sure I don't use wine much
[08:10] <petafile> I just uninstalled/reinstalled network-mangager gnome, and still can't get it on the panel/find it anywhere
[08:10] <Zahrber> I prefer to use linux software or freeware
[08:10] <Zahrber> or open source
[08:11] <elTigre> How can I change the keyboard layout within the ubuntu live cd system?
[08:11] <Zahrber> I stay away from proprietary software until I have to use it
[08:11] <Vox754> !search keyboard
[08:11] <ubotu> Found: keyboards,shortcuts,keybinding,keyboard,winkey,keyboard shortcuts,keys-#ubuntu-xgl,dvorak
[08:11] <neuratix> i was looking for a native linux app preferably
[08:11] <Zahrber> try GIMP for simple drawing but Inkscape is your best bet I think
[08:11] <youssef> hi
[08:11] <Vox754> !find keyb
[08:11] <youssef> group
[08:11] <ubotu> Found: xkeyboard-config, gtkeyboard, keybled, keyboardcast, keyboards-rg (and 2 others)
[08:11] <Huggles> anyone??
[08:11] <Xaro> Its inder System, Preferances, keybaord
[08:12] <Vox754> !wireless
[08:12] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:12] <Vox754> !tell Huggles about wireless
[08:13] <Vox754> !info keybled
[08:13] <ubotu> keybled: KDE keyboard LED applet. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.65-6 (edgy), package size 281 kB, installed size 644 kB
[08:13] <elTigre> How can I change the keyboard layout within the ubuntu live cd system? (the above mentioned config programs dont exist in the live cd system)...
[08:13] <CitizenUnderdog> Neuratix: If you are willing to buy CrossOver Office... it claims to run MX
[08:14] <brikka> Hi, does anyone know how to scroll with the trackpad on an Ibook?? thanks!!
[08:15] <elTigre> ah now I found something
[08:15] <flevour> after upgrading to fiesty, gnome automounting feature seems gone, is there anyway to reenable it?
[08:15] <elTigre>  setxkbmap
[08:15] <Vox754> !search keyb*
[08:15] <ubotu> Found:
[08:15] <flevour> elTigre: if you are in gnome go to system->preferences->keyboard
[08:15] <elTigre> flevour try /etc/init.d/hald start
[08:15] <elTigre> I am in xubuntu
[08:15] <elTigre> xfce
[08:16] <elTigre> but I found the command for changing the keymap now
[08:16] <angel_of_shadow> server :P
[08:16] <flevour> there should be something similar in xfce too
[08:16] <Vox754> !search mouse
[08:16] <ubotu> Found: mouse
[08:16] <elTigre> there should be, yes ;)
[08:16] <Vox754> !find mouse
[08:16] <ubotu> Found: kmousetool, mousepad, xserver-xorg-input-mouse, mouseemu, xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse
[08:16] <elTigre> but the keyboard settings wont display keyboard layout
[08:16] <rogue780> what's the difference between ubuntu, and ubuntu server?
[08:16] <Nippoo> !search sometext
[08:16] <ubotu> Found:
[08:17] <Nippoo> hrm
[08:17] <Vox754> !info mouseemu
[08:17] <ubotu> mouseemu: Emulate mouse buttons and mouse wheel. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.15-3 (edgy), package size 13 kB, installed size 120 kB
[08:17] <VMT2007> rogue780: many
[08:17] <Vox754> !mousepad
[08:17] <ubotu> mousepad: simple Xfce oriented text editor. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.6-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 50 kB, installed size 508 kB
[08:17] <VMT2007> http://www.ubuntu.com/server http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop
[08:17] <Nippoo> rogue780: one's optimized for desktop use, and the other for server use
[08:18] <Nippoo> one's got an X client (graphical environment) by default, the other doesn't.
[08:18] <rogue780> so server doesn't have X on it?
[08:18] <Nippoo> though, IMHO, you don't want to be using ubuntu for a server anyway =)
[08:18] <Nippoo> rogue780: I don't know, but I doubt it.
[08:18] <VMT2007> Nippoo: it's a lot easier to work with
[08:18] <Nippoo> rogue780: I'm sure you can select to install X on it, though.
[08:19] <VMT2007> it's a pain in the ass to configure and install PHP, Apache, and MySQL
[08:19] <jontec> no it's not :D
[08:19] <Nippoo> in any case, you can always go "apt-get install kde" and "apt-get install xserver-xfree86"
[08:19] <flevour> i have hald running but still no automounting for gnome
[08:19] <VMT2007> ew, kde
[08:19] <Nippoo> VMT2007: yeah, Debian can do that fine, too.
[08:19] <rogue780> and also, where would I go to find out about getting a T1 line put in?
[08:19] <Nippoo> so can Gentoo (though that's probably even worse as a server OS)
[08:19] <Nippoo> rogue780: Google.
[08:20] <Stone321> i stopVMT2007 just fallow ubuntu wiki
[08:20] <Nippoo> rogue780: you starting up a company, or just wanting to host some servers?
[08:20] <rogue780> I'll probably go with slackware for the server, but I am trying to find out more info before I commit to anything
[08:20] <jeeves_Moss> all: can someone help me with the GPSD moduel?
[08:20] <rogue780> looking into starting up a company
[08:20] <VMT2007> if it's a game server, go with linux
[08:20] <Vox754> !search GPS
[08:20] <ubotu> Found:
[08:20] <VMT2007> FreeBSD's linux compatibility layer is only so good
[08:20] <Vox754> !find gps
[08:20] <ubotu> Found: dgpsip, gnat-gps, gnat-gps-doc, gps, gpsbabel (and 14 others)
[08:21] <VMT2007> I personally prefer BSD for web servers but that's just my opinion
[08:21] <VMT2007> other people have better experiences with linux
[08:21] <rogue780> I'm trying to re-invent craigslist
[08:21] <rogue780> call it a marriage between craiglist and ebay...
[08:21] <Theory_> does craigslist need re-inventing?
[08:21] <jeeves_Moss> Vox754:  also, do you know how to detach a shell window in a script?
[08:21] <jontec> anyone here that can help me with sound? I can pastbin the things that I have done
[08:21] <jontec> pastebin*
[08:21] <VMT2007> jontec: what's wrong?
[08:22] <rogue780> Theory_, a lot of people I talk to say they feel it is too un-structured
[08:22] <VMT2007> no sound at all?
[08:22] <Stone321> paste a question into pastebin too
[08:22] <rummmit> anyone having problems with nvidia drivers after update this morning?
[08:22] <Vox754> !tell jeeves_Moss about shell
[08:22] <jontec> VMT2007: it doesn't work :D at all... I tried updating alsa drivers, but no change. amd64 edgy kubuntu
[08:22] <rogue780> and I have to agree
[08:22] <CitizenUnderdog> exit
[08:22] <Stone321> rummit there is anouncment on ubuntu forums about that
[08:22] <fmasi> what is the msn client that is recomended for pepole coming from windows ( a frend of mine dont like gaim very mutch)
[08:22] <VMT2007> jontec: mute the external amplifier in alsamixer
[08:22] <rogue780> I'd also be adding features that allow you to pay for an item online, etc
[08:22] <VMT2007> run alsamixer in a terminal
[08:22] <jeeves_Moss> Vox754:  any ideas on this GPSD problem?
[08:23] <VMT2007> rogue780: yeah don't use ubuntu server for that
[08:23] <VMT2007> if you expect high traffic
[08:23] <Vox754> !alsamixer
[08:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alsamixer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:23] <Stone321> rogue780 with paypal IN?
[08:23] <Stone321> IPN
[08:23] <mphill_> i'm running ubuntu 6.10 trying to get amavis running with postfix.  I followed the README, and I am not getting any errors.  However Spam is not being flagged.  Spamassassin on its own works just fine, but iwth AMAvis doesn't work at all.
[08:23] <mphill_> oops
[08:23] <rogue780> would you say slackware would be a good fit? I need PHP, APACHE, and MYSQL
[08:23] <rogue780> Stone321, probably use paypal. haven't decided yet
[08:24] <Stone321> go with debian , there isnt anything better in slackware then in debian
[08:24] <jontec> VMT2007: external amplifier? how?
[08:24] <VMT2007> is it a laptop?
[08:24] <jontec> VMT2007: yes
[08:24] <VMT2007> VIA sound card?
[08:24] <jontec> VMT2007: VIA?
[08:24] <VMT2007> nevermind, just try this
[08:24] <VMT2007> open up a terminal
[08:24] <VMT2007> run alsamixer
[08:25] <rogue780> I hope Feisty has better built-in unichrome support
[08:25] <VMT2007> scroll with the left arrow key until you find "External Amplifier"
[08:25] <Vox754> !search alsa*
[08:25] <ubotu> Found:
[08:25] <Stone321> rogue780 ok i havbe some php functions for that if you are not using SOAP
[08:25] <VMT2007> when you have it selected press m
[08:25] <VMT2007> and then try to play a sound
[08:25] <Vox754> !search via*
[08:25] <ubotu> Found:
[08:25] <VMT2007> rogue780: agreed
[08:25] <jeeves_Moss> !tell Jeeves_Moss about gpsd
[08:25] <neuratix> !search keyboard
[08:25] <ubotu> Found: keyboards,shortcuts,keybinding,keyboard,winkey,keyboard shortcuts,keys-#ubuntu-xgl,dvorak
[08:25] <neuratix> !search keybinding
[08:25] <ubotu> Found: keybinding
[08:25] <mypapit> wtf?
[08:26] <rogue780> Stone321, any help I can get, the better.
[08:26] <neuratix> !keybinding
[08:26] <ubotu> To find out how to switch your keyboard layout, See https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts
[08:26] <VMT2007> !abuse
[08:26] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:26] <PriceChild> Ok I want a really really light window manager... suggestions?
[08:26] <VMT2007> wait what
[08:26] <Valmarko> Cant find mozilla-mplayer. Where can I get it?
[08:26] <VMT2007> !botabuse
[08:26] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[08:26] <rapid> PriceChild, xwm
[08:26] <jontec> VMT2007: I don't have one... I just have: Master, PCM, SPDIF, CallerID, and OffHook... last two are of
[08:26] <PriceChild> ty rapid
[08:26] <Kingsqueak> PriceChild: try fluxbox
[08:26] <rogue780> fluxbox and openbox are great
[08:26] <VMT2007> jontec you're using alsamixer?
[08:26] <VMT2007> or gnome's volume control?
[08:27] <rogue780> I use openbox and fluxbox for my mythtv systems
[08:27] <Vox754> find alsa
[08:27] <VMT2007> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[08:27] <jontec> VM2007: I have KDE, and I'm in the terminal using alsamixer
[08:28] <ScarFreewill> this is how i downloaded it "rsync -av --progress ftp.belnet.be::packages/damnsmalllinux/current/dsl-3.1.iso /home/sf/stuff/dsl" how do i pause/resume it?
[08:28] <flevour> is it correct that gnome-mount outputs its version when invoked with correct parameters?
[08:28] <VMT2007> jontec: hmm...
[08:28] <r_rehashed> what is the command to mount a slave hdd?
[08:28] <VMT2007> jontec: follow the link I gave you
[08:29] <VMT2007> r_rehashed: ext3?
[08:29] <Stone321> !paste
[08:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:29] <DrCurl> hi
[08:29] <VMT2007> r_rehashed: ext3 partition, ntfs, vfat, or ...?
[08:29] <r_rehashed> no ntfs
[08:29] <VMT2007> oh
[08:29] <VMT2007> !diskmounter
[08:29] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[08:29] <DrCurl> is someone here using a Zen V?
[08:29] <jontec> VMT2007: thinking about it... and being reminded by the article... it might just be BIOS... lemme restart and check
[08:29] <VMT2007> DrCurl: my LCD screen burned out :\
[08:30] <r_rehashed> ok
[08:30] <Corvix> hiho ...
[08:30] <VMT2007> anyone still use lilo?
[08:31] <Corvix> the diplay of my laptop stopped working recently ... is there a way to do a ubuntu server install without display? remotely via network or so?
[08:31] <rogue780> VMT2007, NEG
[08:32] <n2diy> Why is k3b locking my cdrw disks, how can I prevent it?
[08:32] <jeeves_Moss> ALL:  is ANYONE listening on here?
[08:32] <n2diy> which sub-directories in /var should be backed up?
[08:32] <Nippoo> jeeves_Moss: no.
[08:32] <r_rehashed> is mounting a hdd save as mounting a filesystem on the same disk?
[08:32] <jeeves_Moss> Nippoo:  @ least you answered.  God, what is it with people in this channel?  I just need to figure out WTF is going on with my GPSD
[08:32] <VMT2007> r_rehashed: new to linux?
[08:33] <dgm> does anyone have a trac 0.10.3 .deb for ubuntu 6.06 ?
[08:33] <AlexC_> Hey, how can I get a .deb file from apt-get?
[08:33] <r_rehashed> um, yes
[08:33] <VMT2007> okay
[08:33] <finn_> what do I need to do to get xcdroast to burn DVDs??
[08:33] <VMT2007> linux doesn't mount drives in a similar fashion to windows
[08:33] <AlexC_> Instead of downloading and installing, I just want to download the .deb file to say /home/alex
[08:33] <VMT2007> it mounts them in the /mnt or /media directories
[08:33] <VMT2007> like, /mnt/cdrom
[08:33] <VMT2007> rather
[08:34] <VMT2007>  /media/cdrom
[08:34] <dgm> apt-get -d file
[08:34] <r_rehashed> ok
[08:34] <dgm> downloads the file
[08:34] <VMT2007> look at that diskmounter program I gave you
[08:34] <r_rehashed> ok
[08:36] <AlexC_> dgm: where does it download the .deb to?
[08:36] <rogue780> Stone321, PM me with that info if you want
[08:36] <Stone321> rogue780 http://pastebin.ca/288994 . function are from class so you need to change $var->state to $custom as in $_POST['custom'] 
[08:36] <aa> Stone321  8 8 6
[08:36] <dgm> hmm, I assumed the local directory...
[08:36] <grogoreo> hi
[08:37] <Stone321> and you need to close $fp and $log
[08:37] <jeeves_Moss> grogoreo:  don't get your hopes up.  no one in here has the Christmas spirt
[08:37] <AlexC_> dgm: hum nope :P
[08:37] <grogoreo> for some reason connection seems a bit dodgy as when I use Firefox and now Opera I can view sites but now and then it will say it can't connect to the server. I'm gussing it's something to do with the network card or something
[08:38] <rogue780> Stone321, right on! saves me some work :)
[08:38] <jontec> VMT2007: nope. :D I'm gonna read some on the article... there was no option there at all
[08:38] <grogoreo> jeeves_Moss: you can always hope, maybe they've been visited by three ghosts
[08:38] <rogue780> Stone321, do you want to be mentioned on the site?
[08:38] <Huggles> i cant find the drivers for 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card (rev 01)
[08:38] <Huggles> help?
[08:38] <jeeves_Moss> grogoreo:  I'm having the same problem right now.  I get spott connections all day.  one min, Firefox will load a page, then the next, it won't.
[08:38] <dgm> man apt-get
[08:38] <dgm> that's where I was looking
[08:39] <Stone321> no need if you change to code don't try to get payed for it
[08:39] <grogoreo> jeeves_Moss: yeah. I thought it was just firefox so tried Opera and it seems the same. Wierd
[08:39] <rogue780> anyone know why when I try to VNC into a ubuntu box running fluxbox all it shows is the X cursor and the ubuntu splash/loading dialog box?
[08:39] <VMT2007> !ndiswrapper | Huggles
[08:39] <ubotu> Huggles: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:39] <Huggles> i have ndiswrapper, but i still need the drivers
[08:40] <VMT2007> hmm
[08:41] <jeeves_Moss> grogoreo:  It's strange that two browsers are doing that.
[08:41] <VMT2007> Huggles: Well... there are no drivers for that device around for Linux.
[08:41] <VMT2007> Nah I'm kidding
[08:41] <grogoreo> jeeves_Moss: which lead me to believe it's not the browser
[08:41] <VMT2007> Did you check dell.com?
[08:41] <root_> i need help
[08:41] <Huggles> yeah think i found it
[08:41] <jeeves_Moss> grogoreo:  I'm having an issue with trying to get my GPSD to work.  Also, what network (ISP) are you connected to?  I'm here in Toronto
[08:41] <root_> my nautils wont work
[08:41] <VMT2007> root_: don't IRC as root, man
[08:42] <grogoreo> jeeves_Moss: well I'm a long way away, I'm in England with ISP plusnet
[08:42] <AlexC_> dgm: thanks, found it - /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:42] <howieson27> hello i have feisty and k3b cant find my burner can anybody help me
[08:43] <grogoreo> jeeves_Moss: though I did update ubuntu earlier on today, so maybe that's it
[08:43] <root_> VMT2007, i cant help it i have to just to talk to you   because the machine i am using is screwed so i have to vnc to a different machine
[08:43] <atle|f> !feisty
[08:43] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[08:43] <howieson27> ok?
[08:43] <VMT2007> try reinstalling nautilus
[08:43] <howieson27> !de
[08:43] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:43] <jeeves_Moss> groporeo:  humm, must be something wide spread.  the M$ boxes in this office are being dumb as well.  must have lost some satellites in the magnetic storm earlier this week
[08:43] <VMT2007> boot into a recovery shell
[08:44] <root_> VMT2007, how do i boot into a recovery shell
[08:44] <root_> i am using edubuntu
[08:44] <VMT2007> oh
[08:45] <root_> fresh install
[08:46] <root_> VMT2007, so what do i do
[08:48] <jeeves_Moss> groforeo:  yea, that might have had something to do with it as well.  I did the update as well.  something like a 45Mb update.  I was just looking for something bigger than something small and stupid like an update!
[08:51] <atlantis> can someone tell me what package defines the 'AM_PATH_GLIB' macro?
[08:51] <johnjohn> how do i chang to a rizon server with xchat
[08:51] <jeeves_Moss> grogoreo:  do you know what the command is to detach a shell window in a script?  I'm trying to make a startup script to launch all of my wardriving programs with a single command, but I need to run a bunch of programs, and have them detach seprate windows once they're up and running
[08:53] <grogoreo> jeeves_Moss: do you mean literal windows? The only way I can think of is launch another version of the shell program. There is also: screen which lets you run programs in the background but is CLI only
[08:53] <atlantis> doe anyone know what package defines the 'AM_PATH_GLIB' macro?
[08:54] <jeeves_Moss> grogoreo:  basiclly what I need to do is launch GPSD, then Xgps, then kismet.  And since if I run it in a script, the launch process will be dependant on the process call before releasing so the next time can be run
[08:55] <grogoreo> jeeves_Moss: so you want the program before to be running before you run the next one?
[08:56] <grogoreo> jeeves_Moss: or are you wanting to stop the init service? (I don't know what any of those programs do and what GPSD is)
[08:56] <jeeves_Moss> grogoreo:  no, I want the script to launch each program, but they have to be launched in order.  So, once one program is up and running, it leaves it in it's own window, and moves on to the next line in the script.  I know for making something run on a server, there is a command to end a line that will force the program you just started to detach from the terminal window
[08:57] <clemyeats> jeeves_Moss: &
[08:57] <grogoreo> jeeves_Moss: ah that's it, &
[08:57] <jeeves_Moss> clemymeats:  will that detach them into their own window?
[08:57] <johnjohn> im in xchat but when i hit connect thier s no rizon server  is thier a way i could /join rizon
[08:58] <clemyeats> jeeves_Moss: it will launch them asynchronously.
[09:00] <Saxofoner> Whenever I try to update to 6.10 I get some thingy about network errors.  What should I do?  Short of reinstalling from a disk?
[09:00] <michael11> I've entered "apt-get update" but it has frozen on one sources at 99%, how can I escape this without pressing ctrl+c
[09:00] <ntbnnt> what errors
[09:00] <Saxofoner> I'll put em up... Hold on ntbnnt
[09:00] <ntbnnt> cant resolve ?
[09:00] <ntbnnt> k
[09:01] <Saxofoner> what's the terminal command for the upgrade that makes the updater check for 6.10?
[09:01] <fulldisclosure> Hi.
[09:01] <Saxofoner> hi
[09:01] <fulldisclosure> Someone here with a macbook?
[09:01] <ntbnnt> apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:01] <clemyeats> Saxofoner: sudo apt-get update
[09:01] <ntbnnt> no
[09:01] <Saxofoner> yeah
[09:01] <Saxofoner> that' snot it
[09:01] <michael11> fulldisclosure: no dude, we're too poor for macbooks... :(
[09:01] <edd_> anybody know how to get sound working in xine
[09:01] <ntbnnt> dist-upgrade
[09:02] <ntbnnt> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade is what i think you're talking about
[09:02] <Saxofoner> update-manager -c  that one
[09:02] <ntbnnt> are you trying to upgrade to edgy
[09:03] <ntbnnt> if so its really easy
[09:03] <Saxofoner> ntbnnt: yes.  I get this error:
[09:03] <Saxofoner> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-security/universe/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[09:03] <Saxofoner> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-security/universe/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[09:03] <Saxofoner> Failed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/dists/dapper/free/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found
[09:03] <Saxofoner> Failed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/dists/dapper/non-free/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found
[09:03] <Saxofoner> Failed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/dists/dapper/free/source/Sources.gz 404 Not Found
[09:03] <Saxofoner> Failed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/dists/dapper/non-free/source/Sources.gz 404 Not Found
[09:04] <ntbnnt> okay okay
[09:04] <Music_Shuffle> !pastebin | Saxofoner
[09:04] <ubotu> Saxofoner: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:04] <ntbnnt> you got a router
[09:04] <ntbnnt> ?
[09:04] <cmweb> What are the default user and password for samba? Ive tried to access it via a windows box but every time it wants a user and password, i tried my credentials but not getting through
[09:04] <Saxofoner> Yeah, sorry Music_Shuffle  I forgot
[09:04] <Music_Shuffle> :)
[09:04] <Saxofoner> ntbnnt: Yes I do
[09:04] <ntbnnt> okay
[09:04] <edd_> anybody know how to get sound working in xine??
[09:04] <ntbnnt> you use cable internet
[09:04] <ntbnnt> ?
[09:04] <Saxofoner> DSL
[09:04] <ntbnnt> crap
[09:05] <Saxofoner> what?
[09:05] <ntbnnt> okay u are just trying to upgrade right
[09:05] <Saxofoner> yes
[09:05] <michael11> edd_: usually it just works... what kind of errors are you getting?
[09:05] <ntbnnt> do this
[09:05] <Popoi> :-P howdy everybody!
[09:05] <Saxofoner> I did it on another computer thru this network, it worked.  But not on this one.
[09:05] <ntbnnt> 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[09:05] <jeeves_Moss> clemyeats:  are you any good with GPSD?  I'm getting errors with it
[09:05] <Saxofoner> okay
[09:05] <ntbnnt> change every instance of 'dapper' to 'edgy'
[09:05] <clemyeats> jeeves_Moss: oh... no :)
[09:05] <clemyeats> jeeves_Moss: sorry.
[09:06] <edd_> michael11: no sound for mpeg layer 2/3 (no codec)
[09:06] <Saxofoner> ntbnnt: Isn't that kind of hacky?  Is there no better way to do that?
[09:06] <ntbnnt> no its good
[09:06] <edd_> i dont know where to get the sound codesc or how to install it
[09:06] <ntbnnt> i promise
[09:06] <gnomefreak> !upgrade
[09:06] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:06] <cmweb> What are the defaults for samba as regards to credintials
[09:07] <jeeves_Moss> clemyeats: well, I'm not sure what's going on with it.  I jsut get lines of errors, and I've googled the error.
[09:07] <ntbnnt> you have to change your sources man
[09:07] <mwalling> http://rafb.net/p/uWMcTr37.html
[09:07] <mwalling> its a good laugh
[09:07] <ntbnnt> no matter what - and use the dist-upgrade build into apt
[09:08] <matallo> hello
[09:08] <Kohlgarten> hi
[09:08] <Saxofoner> ntbnnt: What about the first line: where it says "_Dapper Drake_"  ?
[09:08] <matallo> i've got some problem in edgy with lirc
[09:08] <add1cted> Hi there
[09:08] <matallo> it's a pain in the ass!
[09:08] <Music_Shuffle> Hai2u2
[09:08] <Music_Shuffle> !ohmy!
[09:08] <Music_Shuffle> :o
[09:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ohmy! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:08] <ntbnnt> dont worry about that if theres no url
[09:08] <Music_Shuffle> ...oh.
[09:08] <Music_Shuffle> !ohmy
[09:08] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:08] <Music_Shuffle> ;P
[09:08] <gnomefreak> Music_Shuffle: please stop that
[09:09] <cmweb> What are the default user and password for samba? Ive tried to access it via a windows box but every time it wants a user and password, i tried my credentials but not getting through
[09:09] <add1cted> I just installed ubuntu and I was wondering if there is a way I can change my keyboard layout to besides using the GNOME tool
[09:09] <ntbnnt> cmweb, yo have to create a user db
[09:09] <michael11> edd_: just open up synaptic package manager and do a search for xine and install it
[09:09] <Music_Shuffle> gnomefreak, which? The random hi message, the wrong bot command, or the right one? ./Confused.
[09:09] <cmweb> ntbnnt, um with what
[09:09] <matallo> add sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:09] <cmweb> ntbnnt, how
[09:09] <ntbnnt> okay
[09:09] <heydabop> Can someone give me help on installing the KDE games package?
[09:09] <fulldisclosure> Someone here with a macbook?
[09:10] <matallo> add1cted u read me?
[09:10] <ntbnnt> hang on
[09:10] <Music_Shuffle> heydabop, no luck with Synaptic?
[09:10] <gnomefreak> Music_Shuffle: all the non support stuff you are typing it here. (it looked like all of the above)
[09:10] <fdoving> cmweb: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/serverguide/C/configuring-samba.html
[09:10] <heydabop> I try to install it and the games with it, but there are way to many dependancies.
[09:10] <heydabop> No.
[09:10] <Music_Shuffle> gnomefreak, oh ok. ./Will be good now.
[09:10] <ntbnnt> okay
[09:10] <VMT2007> Anyone use Xfce?
[09:10] <heydabop> I can't even find it in Synaptic.
[09:10] <ntbnnt> ready?
[09:10] <add1cted> matallo: I did :)
[09:10] <edd_> michael11: thats what i did, the error is mpeg codec not supported layer 2/3 (0x0)
[09:10] <matallo> no help with lirc?
[09:10] <gnomefreak> VMT2007: some but you might find more in #xubuntu
[09:10] <Music_Shuffle> heydabop, you sure?
[09:10] <Saxofoner> ntbnnt:  I changed all of them except that first line, now what?  Just try again?
[09:10] <cmweb> ntbnnt, are you talKing to me
[09:10] <heydabop> Yes.
[09:10] <ntbnnt> yea
[09:10] <matallo> succesS?
[09:10] <heydabop> Unless I'm looking wrong.
[09:11] <add1cted> matallo: Add.. command not found
[09:11] <cmweb> ntbnnt, go ahead then
[09:11] <heydabop> I searched for games and kde in separate searches.
[09:11] <ntbnnt> sax - now do 'apt-get update'
[09:11] <pianoboy3333> crimsun: what are the options for compiling alsa drivers from a few days ago for hda intel? I want to put it in a text file and save it, and I keep forgetting to do that
[09:11] <DrCurl> is it possible to upgrade select packages from edgy to feisty? I want to upgrade libgphoto
[09:11] <matallo> by add I was just calling you ;)
[09:11] <compengi> is java virtual machine available for edgy?
[09:11] <matallo> hehehe
[09:11] <add1cted> lmao
[09:11] <compengi> hey gnomefreak
[09:11] <gnomefreak> Saxofoner: comment out the cdrom line if you uncommented all the other lines
[09:11] <matallo> type that w/out add
[09:11] <gnomefreak> compengi: yes
[09:11] <add1cted> Yeah, lol.
[09:11] <gnomefreak> hi
[09:11] <add1cted> I feel so stupid right now
[09:11] <add1cted> You can't imagine :P
[09:11] <ntbnnt> cmweb - 'apt-get install samba samba-client'
[09:11] <compengi> gnomefreak, longtime no talk :)
[09:11] <Saxofoner> gnomefreak:  I uncommented nothing.  What should I do?
[09:11] <Kohlgarten> hi: when I come back from suspending, the only way to get the internet back is to restart networking manually: any idea how to make it automatically?
[09:11] <ntbnnt> just
[09:12] <ntbnnt> listen, after update
[09:12] <compengi> how are you those days gnomefreak
[09:12] <cmweb> ntbnnt, i already have samba inbstalled
[09:12] <gnomefreak> Saxofoner: please paste your list to pastebin
[09:12] <matallo> we all feel stupid everyday
[09:12] <Music_Shuffle> heydabop, search for kde games
[09:12] <ntbnnt> okay
[09:12] <gnomefreak> compengi: tired and busy
[09:12] <heydabop> I'm also using the Kubuntu alternate install CD.
[09:12] <ntbnnt>  make sure
[09:12] <Saxofoner> gn
[09:12] <heydabop> Ok.
[09:12] <heydabop> I'll try.
[09:12] <Saxofoner> gnomefreak:  sure
[09:12] <felipediniz> hi  everyone!!!
[09:12] <matallo> nobody here know a little bit of lirc in edgy?
[09:12] <heydabop> Do I need internet acess?
[09:12] <Music_Shuffle> heydabop, if not, you might need the other repositories enabled.
[09:12] <Music_Shuffle> Yes.
[09:12] <compengi> gnomefreak, of what?
[09:12] <cmweb> ntbnnt, installed
[09:12] <ntbnnt> run 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[09:12] <heydabop> Dang.
[09:12] <ntbnnt> good
[09:12] <gnomefreak> compengi: this is offtopic for this channel
[09:12] <johnjohn> how do i join the rizon network with x chat
[09:12] <ntbnnt> now do this
[09:12] <heydabop> My computer doesn't have interenet.
[09:13] <ntbnnt> as root
[09:13] <Music_Shuffle> Oh. You don't have it on that machine? Umm.
[09:13] <gnomefreak> ntbnnt: did you make sure he installed his -desktop package first
[09:13] <heydabop> Yea.
[09:13] <heydabop> I'ts annoying.
[09:13] <ntbnnt> dpkg-reconfigure -plow samba samba-common
[09:13] <ntbnnt> assign the workgroup name
[09:13] <Music_Shuffle> gnomefreak or someone else might be able to tell you where you can find the package then, but I have no idea, sorry. :(
[09:13] <gnomefreak> Music_Shuffle: what package?
[09:13] <heydabop> Well I can get the package, but getting all the dependencies is impossible.
[09:14] <heydabop> OR close to it.
[09:14] <Saxofoner> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38403/   That's my list after the changes
[09:14] <heydabop> Gnomefreak, it's KDE Games.
[09:14] <ntbnnt> gnomefreak - he will run them as daemons
[09:14] <gnomefreak> heydabop: what is?
[09:14] <heydabop> Thre package I'm looking for.
[09:14] <compengi> is java virtual machine available for edgy?
[09:14] <Saxofoner> gnomefreak: I mean, before the changes.  I just change all the little "dapper" so to edgy
[09:14] <heydabop> I can download it, but then I need to get a thousand dependincies.
[09:14] <Saxofoner> right?
[09:14] <ntbnnt> yea
[09:15] <cmweb> ntbnnt,ok
[09:15] <gnomefreak> Saxofoner: add a # to lines 2 and 3 take the # away from lines 37 and 38
[09:15] <ntbnnt> now run apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:15] <Saxofoner> kay
[09:15] <ntbnnt> okay cmweb
[09:15] <gnomefreak> Saxofoner: are they all edgy now?
[09:15] <Saxofoner> In a sec
[09:15] <Music_Shuffle> gnomefreak, KDE Games.
[09:15] <gnomefreak> Saxofoner: wait
[09:15] <gnomefreak> Saxofoner: if they are not dont do it
[09:15] <jaj1> hi
[09:15] <ntbnnt> did you configure it
[09:15] <gnomefreak> Saxofoner: are they dapper or edgy right now
[09:15] <jaj1> can anyone help me
[09:15] <heydabop> Gnomefreak: Here's a link to it http://linuxappfinder.com/package/kdegames
[09:16] <cmweb> ntbnnt, i think i did but it was all right, nothing needed changing
[09:16] <compengi> gnomefreak, is java virtual machine available for ubuntu?
[09:16] <gnomefreak> compengi: yes
[09:16] <compengi> gnomefreak, how to install it?
[09:16] <gnomefreak> heydabop: yes ther eis a package for them cant think of name off hand but i have them
[09:16] <ntbnnt> okay did you tell it to create the user password db, cmweb
[09:16] <gnomefreak> compengi: apt-cache search java than find it and install it
[09:17] <cmweb> ntbnnt, il go through it again step by step, one sec
[09:17] <heydabop> Ok.
[09:17] <christiane> Hello. Where's the right place to set a new default for /proc/sys/kernel/shmmax on boot?
[09:17] <cmweb> ntbnnt, Create samba password database, /var/lib/samba/passdb.tdb?
[09:17] <heydabop> I can get the package, but getting all the packages to sastusfy the dependencies is really hard.
[09:17] <ntbnnt> yea
[09:17] <n2diy> which sub-directories in /var should be backed up?
[09:17] <Saxofoner> gnome
[09:17] <n2diy> Why is k3b locking my cdrw disks, how can I prevent it?
[09:17] <cmweb> ntbnnt,  Use password encryption?
[09:17] <heydabop> Is KDE games on the Kubuntu disk>
[09:17] <r_rehashed> what does auto in fstab do?
[09:17] <atle|f> yes, got my zen vision m workink, i think
[09:18] <ntbnnt> yea
[09:18] <Saxofoner> gnomefreak: I've changed all the dappers to edgys, and now I'll do those commenty thingies, and try again.  right?
[09:18] <atle|f> *working
[09:18] <gnomefreak> Saxofoner: they are edgy right now?
[09:18] <jaj1> my internet is working too slow what do I do?
[09:18] <cmweb> ntbnnt, ok the rest was explanitory but i got it done now what
[09:18] <ntbnnt> okay
[09:18] <ntbnnt> now lets make sure you have the client
[09:18] <Saxofoner> gnomefreak:  YES
[09:18] <compengi> gnomefreak, is this one okay? jamvm - virtual machine which conforms to JVM specification 2
[09:18] <Jay_> did anyone have problems running certain applications after updating to Edgy?
[09:18] <ntbnnt> 'apt-get install smbclient'
[09:18] <Saxofoner> They are edgy gnomefreak
[09:19] <gnomefreak> Saxofoner: yeah go ahead but when your done doing the commenting please ping me
[09:19] <__mikem> LjL, what did he do?
[09:19] <sinedie>  /server irc.azzurra.net
[09:19] <cmweb> ntbnnt, i already have it
[09:19] <Saxofoner> okay... like this?
[09:19] <heydabop> Is there a way that I could get all the packages for it using windows, and then take all those to my computer?
[09:19] <LjL> __mikem: pm
[09:19] <ntbnnt> good
[09:19] <compengi> gnomefreak, and there is also cacao - Java virtual machine
[09:19] <sc0tt_> Anyone know a shoutcast streamer, to stream as a source to a server?
[09:19] <Saxofoner> Okay, I'll do that when I'm done
[09:19] <__mikem> oh
[09:19] <heydabop> I mean all at once, not having to look at dependencies and downloading all of the packages singles.
[09:20] <gnomefreak> compengi: yes feel free to install whatever package you like. last time i checked jre had vm with it
[09:20] <ntbnnt> now 'sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[09:20] <__mikem> LjL, you mean you'll tell me in a pm, or he did something in a pm?
[09:20] <cmweb> ntbnnt, ok
[09:20] <LjL> __mikem: the latter
[09:20] <ntbnnt> now you are going to change the [homes]  setting
[09:21] <Saxofoner> gnomefreak:  37 and 38 are the securitys for the main restricted repos, right?
[09:21] <ntbnnt> make it less restictive by changing the nos to yeses
[09:21] <gnomefreak> Saxofoner: for universe
[09:21] <Jay_> someone needs to change this program so that people can have private conversations
[09:21] <gnomefreak> oh wait
[09:21] <gnomefreak> Saxofoner: leave them alone
[09:21] <ntbnnt> and change 'change mask' to '0644'
[09:21] <Saxofoner> Okay
[09:22] <heydabop> Jay: Try using a IM client.
[09:22] <gnomefreak> Saxofoner: you have all kinds of extra repos in your list
[09:22] <heydabop> Like AIM, or WIM.
[09:22] <ntbnnt> then change 'directory mask' to 0755
[09:22] <ntbnnt> got it cmweb
[09:22] <gnomefreak> Saxofoner: ok now save and close it
[09:22] <w3ccv> or Gaim
[09:22] <SurfnKid> hi all
[09:22] <heydabop> Yea.
[09:22] <gnomefreak> Saxofoner: DONT DO UPGRADE YET
[09:22] <Saxofoner> Now it's http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38404/    gnomefreak
[09:22] <SurfnKid> how can i add/remove applications from the Helper Applications section of a download link file?
[09:22] <cmweb> ntbnnt, most of the setting are commented out, want me to un do?
[09:22] <gnomefreak> Saxofoner: thats fine
[09:22] <ntbnnt> no
[09:23] <ntbnnt> just find that [homes] 
[09:23] <ntbnnt> cmweb:
[09:23] <ntbnnt> now run 'testparm'
[09:23] <gnomefreak> Saxofoner: do you have xgl/beryl/compiz installed?
[09:23] <Saxofoner> gnomefreak:  That's a go?  Do the upgrade?
[09:23] <heydabop> Alright, I'm going to see if I can somhow get internet on my computer, if I can, I'll come back.
[09:23] <gnomefreak> Saxofoner: no dont do it yet
[09:23] <Saxofoner> gnomefreak:  I don't think so.
[09:24] <mralphabet> Jay_: doesn't /msg work?
[09:24] <compengi> gnomefreak, thanks alot :)
[09:24] <gnomefreak> Saxofoner: please check if you have your -desktop package installed (ubuntu-desktop for gnome kubuntu-desktop for kde
[09:24] <ntbnnt> cmweb: does testparm read that its 'ok'
[09:24] <Saxofoner> gnome
[09:24] <gnomefreak> Saxofoner: whatever one you use make sure the meta package is installed
[09:24] <gnomefreak> Saxofoner: apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop
[09:24] <cmweb> ntbnnt, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38405/
[09:25] <gnomefreak> Saxofoner: does it say one is installed?
[09:25] <Saxofoner> gnomefreak:    Installed: 0.120
[09:25] <gnomefreak> Saxofoner: good
[09:25] <Saxofoner> YEs
[09:25] <gnomefreak> Saxofoner: warning now once we go on you will not beable to bring it back
[09:25] <ntbnnt> cmweb: okay uncomment the [homes] 
[09:26] <Saxofoner> gnomefreak:  not be able to bring what back?
[09:26] <n2diy> My laptop won't boot from a cd, and, I can't have a floppy drive and cd drive installed at the same time, how can I manually start the Ubuntu installer from the cd?
[09:26] <Saxofoner> 6.06?
[09:26] <Saxofoner> I know
[09:26] <gnomefreak> Saxofoner: make sure you are ready. any non ubuntu packages can cause this to fail
[09:26] <Jay_> mralphabet: I guess I don't know how to use that feature yet
[09:26] <niko_> Hit3k, I'm just upgrading to feisty, am I crazy ?
[09:26] <Saxofoner> I'll uninstall All my crappy programs then.
[09:26] <gnomefreak> Saxofoner: sudo apt-ge tupdate
[09:26] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get update
[09:26] <cmweb> ntbnnt, ok
[09:26] <Saxofoner> okay
[09:26] <cmweb> got it
[09:26] <ntbnnt> okay
[09:26] <gnomefreak> Saxofoner: when thats done sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:27] <ntbnnt> try again
[09:27] <jontec> okay.. this is bad... I tried ot fix my sound card and now nothing works... is there anyway for me to reset my alsa driver setup? It definitely does not work and cat /proc/asound/modules is EMPTY!
[09:27] <davvs> is intel core 2 duo a 64 bit processor? or is it 32 bit?
[09:27] <cmweb> ntbnnt, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38406/
[09:27] <jontec> nothing as in it didn't do anything before, but now kmix does not show anything and alsamixer doesn't work
[09:27] <ntbnnt> change all the browable(s) to yes
[09:28] <jontec> I used sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel and am getting nothing... it's just sitting there
[09:28] <ntbnnt> it looks to be configged proplerly
[09:28] <Saxofoner> It's doing sudo apt-get upgrade, and It printed "packages freecontrib.org edgy/free Sources 404 not found!  Is that a problem?
[09:28] <kspath> davvs: do not go to the intel website else you might find what you want
[09:29] <gnomefreak> Saxofoner: comment it out in sources.list and use apt-get dist-upgrade not apt-get upgrade
[09:29] <Saxofoner> okay
[09:29] <gnomefreak> Saxofoner: after you comment it out use apt-get update than apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:29] <cmweb> ntbnnt, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38407/
[09:29] <Saxofoner> thanks, ntbnnt and gnomefreak, hope that works!
[09:29] <ntbnnt> your welvome
[09:30] <ntbnnt> cmweb: sweet
[09:30] <ntbnnt> okay
[09:30] <gnomefreak> Saxofoner: if you have anything from PLF expect it to fail. please come back if it fails someone will help you fix it.
[09:30] <ntbnnt> SAMBA should be ready to use
[09:30] <cmweb> Testing
[09:30] <Saxofoner> Yeah... what's plf?
[09:30] <ntbnnt> if not we will build a psword bd
[09:30] <Jay_> hey I have few really simple questions, can some help me when they have a moment, no rush though
[09:31] <gnomefreak> Saxofoner: the repo you are commenting out right now
[09:31] <Saxofoner> oh....
[09:31] <Saxofoner> heheh
[09:31] <Saxofoner> yeah
[09:31] <Saxofoner> Jay sure.
[09:31] <davvs> kspath: its a simple question to answer, if you know it just answer yes or no
[09:31] <gnomefreak> Saxofoner: its a 3rd party repo. ubuntu doesnt support any package inside the repo
[09:31] <Saxofoner> YEah
[09:31] <gnomefreak> Jay_: just ask someone will answer if they know
[09:31] <kspath> davvs, yes or no
[09:31] <Saxofoner> Oh well, I'll just back up my harddrive and do it from scratch if worst comes to worst
[09:32] <gnomefreak> !attitude | davvs
[09:32] <ntbnnt> cmweb: wait do 'sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart'
[09:32] <ubotu> davvs: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:32] <cmweb> nbnnt, nope, i go to view the computers shared and it still comes up as a login box, i put my credintials in and still nothing
[09:32] <stjepan> !aiglx
[09:32] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.
[09:32] <cmweb> oh
[09:32] <alper> hi guys, im using vmware and was trying to install win xp: but it gives me the following error: vcpu-0:SyncCB failure: c160a165 (bug #4938)
[09:32] <cmweb> re-tesing
[09:32] <stjepan> what do you recommend: AIGLX or XGL?
[09:33] <gnomefreak> stjepan: what are you on dapper or edgy?
[09:33] <Saxofoner> Jay_   what
[09:33] <stjepan> gnomefreak, edgy
[09:33] <gnomefreak> stjepan: with a nvidia card or ati or what?
[09:33] <Jay_> Is there a way to install Edgy using a cd while saving important files, other than doing a partition?
[09:33] <stjepan> ati
[09:34] <stjepan> gnomefreak, if I would get a nvidia card, would you recommend XGL or AIGLX?
[09:34] <gnomefreak> stjepan: ati may not beable to use aiglx please see #ubuntu-xgl for more info
[09:34] <Saxofoner> Jay_  I should think so.    Guys, can you ***upgrade*** from a disk?
[09:34] <cmweb> nbnnt, nope, i go to view the computers shared and it still comes up as a login box, i put my credintials in and still nothing
[09:34] <stjepan> gnomefreak, and with a nvidia card?
[09:34] <ntbnnt> okay
[09:34] <gnomefreak> stjepan: ati will need xgl nvidia wont
[09:34] <ntbnnt> now 'sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[09:34] <timo901> jay: i belivie you have to have an external hard driove
[09:34] <stjepan> gnomefreak, what's better: XGL or AIGLX?
[09:34] <ntbnnt> cahnge the global settings
[09:34] <timo901> drive8
[09:34] <gnomefreak> stjepan: the nvidia 9xxxx series drivers have support for aiglx
[09:34] <gnomefreak> stjepan: aiglx is and its in edgy by default
[09:34] <ntbnnt> encrypt passwords = no
[09:35] <stjepan> gnomefreak, if I would have a nvidia card, should I use XGL or AIGLX then? :)
[09:35] <stjepan> nvidia supports both
[09:35] <gnomefreak> stjepan: aiglx
[09:35] <stjepan> gnomefreak, isn't xgl faster?
[09:35] <gnomefreak> stjepan: no
[09:35] <stjepan> gnomefreak, false :)
[09:35] <timo901> so dose Microsoft own ubuntu now ?
[09:35] <gnomefreak> stjepan: no it isnt it depends on your cared
[09:35] <LjL> 1) is it usual that the same interrupt line (namely, IRQ 5) is shared by, say, the video card and the network card and the USB controller 2) would could be the cause of kernel messages such as "IRQ 5: Nobody cared" and "IRQ 5: Disabling interrupt" when plugging in a USB device, also resulting in frozen X (but not console)?
[09:35] <gnomefreak> card.
[09:35] <UnCroft> I from latvia!
[09:35] <stjepan> gnomefreak, that's not true! XGL is much faster
[09:36] <LjL> timo901: no.
[09:36] <timo901> ohh good
[09:36] <gnomefreak> stjepan: this is the wrong channel for this topic
[09:36] <stjepan> gnomefreak, both technically and practically
[09:36] <stjepan> k
[09:36] <timo901> they own novel ?
[09:36] <LjL> timo901: no. and anyway, this is offtopic
[09:36] <LjL> !offtopic
[09:36] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:36] <timo901> ok
[09:36] <ntbnnt> cmweb: check the invalid users - make sure that your user isnt there
[09:36] <timo901> thx
[09:38] <ntbnnt> also consider checking out man passwd since that is the prgm used to do your passwords on samba
[09:38] <Jay_> the only reason I wanted to do that was because I just updated to Edgy yesterday, and a few things aren't working right and I don't know how to fix them, such as Nicotine, and Azureus, they satart and then immediately shut down
[09:39] <gautam> hi guys
[09:39] <gautam> 1 query :)
[09:39] <idlemind> citizen: ping
[09:39] <gautam> where is ktorrent settings saved for each user?
[09:39] <gautam> anyone?
[09:40] <HentaiSushi> lol@ sakurina failing to ban me properly
[09:40] <LjL> HentaiSushi: ?
[09:40] <gautam> can any1 help me plz?
[09:40] <Stormx2> How do I add /usr/local/lib so that ld properly recognises it? (X-Chat can't load a file located there)
[09:40] <Stormx2> gautam: Probably ~/.ktorrent ?
[09:41] <gautam> Stormx2:  chked , not there
[09:41] <idlemind> gautam: find ~ -name "*ktor*" | less maybe
[09:41] <cmweb> ntbnnt, nothing still i guess im not going to do this thanks anyway
[09:41] <Jay_> Does anyone know how to fix applications that start, but then shut down immediately?
[09:41] <LjL> gautam: .kde/share/apps/ktorrent
[09:41] <Stormx2> Jay_: nicotine is python based. Personally I use nicotine+... As for Azureus... again i use the latest version
[09:42] <gautam> oh ty
[09:42] <gautam> LjL: do u know something?
[09:42] <gautam> u rock dude :)
[09:42] <Jay_> yeah the azureus I have is the latest version though
[09:42] <Jay_> as for the nicotine Im not sure
[09:44] <gautam> Stormx2:  u still there
[09:45] <FirstStrike> is there any way to boost sound some more? every sound bar is at max and it's still pretty quiet.
[09:45] <sinisterguy> i want to compile mpd with aac support, i've already altered the rules file to enable aac, but in the control file, i can't find the version
[09:45] <howieson27> !de
[09:45] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:45] <sinisterguy> there's a Standards-Version, but nothing else
[09:45] <gautam> FirstStrike:  hi
[09:46] <gautam> using alsamixer
[09:46] <FirstStrike> yea
[09:46] <Gosha> !se
[09:46] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[09:46] <Jay_> yeah both are the most up to date versions that I could find from Synaptic package manager
[09:47] <avis> i saw it too
[09:48] <avis> illegal in my books.
[09:49] <keithhhhh> has anyone heard of software called Pengwyns  ???
[09:50] <keithhhhh> I read an article today but I cant find anything on the net about it
[09:51] <Jay_> is there anything I should know before buying an external harddrive for my PC that runs Ubuntu?
[09:51] <keithhhhh> I have several USB type of drives
[09:51] <keithhhhh> never had a problem
[09:51] <Jay_> awsome, thank you
[09:51] <keithhhhh> oh
[09:52] <keithhhhh> there is a new technology called U3
[09:52] <Jay_> Keithhhhh: yes?
[09:52] <Jay_> ok
[09:52] <_opex_> im new to linux and ubuntu.. i have 40gb hdd with 3 partitions...i've installed ubuntu on the first one but the others are on FAT32 or NTFS fole system. My Q is how to access and view everything on these partitions, to modify the files, delete, write new etc. ...
[09:52] <_opex_> ?
[09:52] <keithhhhh> Jay_: but I dont know if they would work in linux
[09:52] <Jay_> so don't get U3 in other word, because its risky?
[09:53] <keithhhhh> Jay_: no Im saying I think it wouldnt work in Ubuntu so dont bother with it
[09:53] <Jay_> ok, but most USB drives should be fine?
[09:53] <mike-ekim> Hi, I need to get all data from a secondary DNS server, and import it into a primary DNS server that recenetly crashed, how can I go about this? I'm not too experienced with working with DNS
[09:54] <Burnser> leute, ich brauche dringenst hilfe
[09:54] <keithhhhh> Jay_:  ya I have a few usb flash drives and several USB hard drives
[09:54] <atle|f> !de
[09:54] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:54] <keithhhhh> Jay_:  all work great
[09:54] <Jay_> Keithhhhh: thanks man
[09:54] <_opex_> how to access ntfs/fat32 partitions under ubuntu
[09:54] <keithhhhh> Jay_: np ;)
[09:55] <minerale> how can I find out what web server is running on a machine (apart from telnetting in get head )
[09:55] <keithhhhh> Jay_: let me check something
[09:55] <keithhhhh> Jay_:  I just thought of something
[09:55] <mike-ekim> can someone help me
[09:55] <keithhhhh> Jay_: Im curious if they use fat32 or ntfs
[09:56] <peirce141> Alright, so Samba failed me, I'm trying to transfer a file from my linux box to my ubuntu box, whats the easiest way to do it without samba?
[09:56] <idlemind> nfs or sneaker net
[09:57] <keithhhhh> Jay_: plugging in my usb drive that I usually use in windows right now
[09:57] <mjr> scp/sftp
[09:58] <keithhhhh> Jay_:  still there?
[09:59] <Wibble-> hey - I'm trying to share a directory between two ubuntu machines.  I've heard of SMB, NFS, Andrew and Coda.  I've been recommended to avoid the first two, but can't find any ubuntu guides for the second two.  Does anyone have a recommendation over which way I should jump and/or knows of a guide I can try to follow for sharing them?
[09:59] <keithhhhh> jay
[10:00] <yrlnry> Suppose I want to tell my ubuntu system to always load a certain kernel module at boot time.  What file should I modify to do that?
[10:00] <yrlnry> /etc/modules?
[10:01] <foo> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=286820 - any ideas on this problem? I am going to add noapic now .. but what does that effect?
[10:01] <dint> Hi. Is it safe to make my NTFS drive writtable from Ubuntu?
[10:01] <Wibble-> yrlnry: I think look at /etc/modutils
[10:02] <Wibble-> dint: No - NTFS is experimental.  The recent driver is much safer, but because there are no real specifications for it, it shouldn't be used if you can avoid it
[10:02] <pucko-> wibble, nfs or samba are definately the easiest.
[10:02] <idlemind> dint: ntfs-3g (goog)
[10:02] <dint> thanks
[10:03] <Wibble-> pucko-: I know samba is easyish... but its aimed at interoperability with windows and has restrictions with mounting (such as having to specify a single user).  I've also tried to follow some NFS guides, and I can't get that working
[10:03] <Seveas> nalioth, another k-line candidate --^
[10:04] <flevour> hi all, after upgrading to fiesty, gnome doesnt automatically display my ipod icon when i plug it, even if hal correctly mounts it under /media
[10:05] <cntb> oh \o
[10:05] <cntb> how old is ubuntu-unregged?
[10:05] <pucko-> Wibble-, nfs is a good choice if you ask me. (if you don't care about easy windows access). andrew is really more complex, and it probably only adds something if yuo have several directories (across several computers) you want to share)
[10:05] <jontec> need help: I used the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting tutorial and now my card is not detected by kmix OR the system and sound STILL does not work
[10:06] <Wibble-> there are a few of kline candidates left in here too ;) ] DarKCodev __olmeden_onceoD and XswXg for example.  I'm surprised people still do stupid things like that...
[10:06] <Wibble-> pucko-: hmmmz, ok.  thanks.
[10:06] <Gosteh> Does anyone know how I can increase my volume past what my system thinks is the maximum?
[10:06] <yrlnry> Buy better speakers?
[10:06] <Infeliz-> alsamixer
[10:07] <cntb> ubuntu alternate kills my windows boot if I dont install grub on MBR
[10:08] <cntb> I insist to leave MBR to windows
[10:09] <yrlnry> When I reboot my ubuntu box, it never actually shuts off and reboots.  it seems to get all the way through  the shutdown process, except for the actual shutdown.
[10:09] <yrlnry> What might be the problem?
[10:10] <BearPerson> Seveas, sorry for setting +r 8)
[10:11] <schmity> CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHY THIS PORN KEEPS POPPING UP ON MY UBUNTU BOX??!?!?
[10:11] <Seveas> BearPerson, no need to apologise, freenode/staff/* is in the access list :)
[10:11] <malt> how would i setup a linux account on the system to allow a user to run files like ./ without having to run with sudo
[10:11] <mc__> i have a dual core system,it is possible to assign a process to a specific core?
[10:12] <jontec> can no one help me?
[10:12] <mc__> jontec: try alsamixer
[10:13] <eilker> !uid
[10:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:14] <jontec> mc__:doesn't work... it's not detecing my sound card
[10:14] <peirce141> i need help setting up my ubuntu box to allow ssh connections, i followed this guide: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy, but I can't seem to connect to my machine
[10:14] <jontec> detecting*
[10:15] <blue-frog> peirce141: to accept from where? intranet or internet?
[10:16] <peirce141> intranet
[10:16] <peirce141> blue-frog: i have two other machines on my local network, just trying to transfer files
[10:16] <blue-frog> peirce141: it's as simple as installing openssh-server, that's all, no need to follow any guides..
[10:16] <reverseblade> peirce141, just install ssh server, that should be fine
[10:16] <reverseblade> blue-frog, may be a firewall issue
[10:17] <ParaDoX34690> hey all... after many days of fussing, i finally have my Linksys WUSB54Gv1 adapter working (woo-hoo!), next on the list... How can I be sure that I have the most up to date drivers for my video card? It's an nvidia chipset (manufactured by BFG Technologies)... Anyone wanna field this?
[10:17] <peirce141> blue-frog: i did that, it still won't connect
[10:17] <peirce141> reverseblade: do I need to open any ports? 22 maybe?
[10:17] <blue-frog> peirce141: what command do you issue?
[10:17] <blue-frog> and what error do you get?
[10:17] <peirce141> ssh peirce141@192.168.0.100
[10:17] <peirce141> which is the internal ip of this box
[10:17] <peirce141> blue-frog: no error, just no response at all
[10:17] <reverseblade> peirce141, are you using a desktop edition ?
[10:18] <rb_laptop> peirce141: need ip address of box u want to connect to in that command line
[10:18] <reverseblade> peirce141, try ssh 192.169.0.100 -l peirce141
[10:18] <peirce141> reverseblade: alright, give me one sec
[10:19] <rb_laptop> peirce141: not your local ip address
[10:19] <blue-frog> peirce141: what firewall gui have you used?
[10:19] <evilgold> Hey does anybody on here know how to get twin view working on edgy
[10:19] <peirce141> rb_laptop: that is the internal ip of the box I want to connect to
[10:20] <peirce141> blue-frog: I just use the built-in firewall of my D-Link router
[10:20] <w3ccv> peirce141, make that ssh -l peirce141 191.168.0.100  - the login name must come first
[10:20] <rb_laptop> w3ccv: no it doesn't
[10:21] <peirce141> Well, either way im still getting no response at all
[10:21] <rb_laptop> peirce141: can u ping that box
[10:21] <reverseblade> peirce141, you prolly do not need a firewall in general with linux. There are many cases a firewall with linux is a must. But I think the default layout for the average user is just fine safe
[10:21] <ParaDoX34690> How can I be sure that I have the most up to date drivers for my video card? It's an nvidia chipset (manufactured by BFG Technologies)... Anyone wanna field this?
[10:22] <peirce141> rb_laptop: yes i can
[10:22] <reverseblade> ParaDoX34690, you should be using nvidia 9631 drivers
[10:22] <FirstStrike> ParaDoX34690: Get them off the nvidia website
[10:22] <w3ccv> ssh -h
[10:22] <peirce141> Do i need to start a service after installing openssh-server?
[10:23] <blue-frog> peirce141: ps ax | grep ssh
[10:23] <un_operateur> peirce141, on the host that is the SSH server -- can you do this -- ssh user@localhost ?
[10:23] <reverseblade> peirce141, NO
[10:23] <ParaDoX34690> i'm sitting at it now (the nvidia site)... wondering which one it would be... http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html   I'm thinking the IA32 drivers... am I correct with this assumption?
[10:24] <rb_laptop> peirce141: check /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny
[10:24] <peirce141> blue-frog: this is the output of that: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38411/
[10:24] <reverseblade> ParaDoX34690, prolly x86 drivers
[10:24] <blue-frog> ParaDoX34690: if you have 32 yes
[10:24] <ParaDoX34690> wee! thanks guys
[10:24] <peirce141> un_operateur: yes i can, but i can't login
[10:24] <blue-frog> peirce141: it's running then
[10:25] <un_operateur> peirce141, i hope you didnt use "user" as-is? :)
[10:25] <blue-frog> peirce141: hostname -i
[10:25] <rb_laptop> peirce141:  is there a user called peirce141 on that box?
[10:25] <un_operateur> peirce141, use your own username there
[10:25] <peirce141> un_operateur: at first i did, then i just did it with a real user and it works
[10:25] <peirce141> rb_laptop: yep
[10:25] <un_operateur> peirce141,  could you ping the ssh server from the client?
[10:25] <peirce141> it works if i use 'ssh peirce141@localhost' on the box that should be the server
[10:25] <peirce141> un_operateur: yep
[10:26] <un_operateur> peirce141, but not connect?
[10:26] <peirce141> un_operateur: correct
[10:26] <reverseblade> peirce141, what is the ip address of the client ?
[10:26] <peirce141> blue-frog: that outputs 127.0.1.1, should i be using that?
[10:26] <un_operateur> peirce141, on the SSH server itself -- ssh user@machinename
[10:26] <peirce141> reverseblade: 192.168.0.101
[10:26] <w3ccv> peirce141, do you have itpables - 'iptables -L INPUT'
[10:27] <blue-frog> peirce141: you must set your /etc/hosts
[10:27] <reverseblade> peirce141, what output do you get when you do ssh 192.168.0.100 ?
[10:27] <w3ccv> iptables could be firewalling it it is in the table
[10:27] <reverseblade> peirce141, -l peirce141
[10:27] <blue-frog> peirce141: add a line in /etc/hosts as follows
[10:27] <peirce141> reverseblade: from which box?
[10:27] <novat> hello
[10:27] <reverseblade> peirce141, from client, when you ssh it, what out put do you get ?
[10:27] <blue-frog> peirce141: 192.168.0.100 name-of-your-machine
[10:28] <novat> within put dual boot with Vista and Ubuntu?
[10:28] <Jeffm515> anyone know about ipods and ubuntu edgy?
[10:28] <peirce141> reverseblade: absolutely none, it sits there at a blank screen
[10:28] <peirce141> blue-frog: okay, ill try that
[10:28] <Madpilot> ubotu, ipod | Jeffm515
[10:28] <ubotu> Jeffm515: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[10:28] <Jeffm515> it's not auto mouting it
[10:28] <reverseblade> peirce141, try ping 192.168.0.100 ?
[10:28] <reverseblade> peirce141, from client
[10:28] <un_operateur> peirce141, also try this  -- ssh user@$HOSTNAME
[10:28] <peirce141> reverseblade: that works
[10:28] <novat> within put dual boot with Vista and Ubuntu?? Please! =/
[10:29] <reverseblade> peirce141, try telnet 192.168.0.100 22
[10:29] <n2diy> ubotu ipod
[10:29] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[10:29] <shaggs> anyone had any experience with ati radeon x550 in 6.10
[10:29] <peirce141> blue-frog: should i restart a service after changing /etc/hosts or just go with it?
[10:29] <n2diy> ubotu ipaq
[10:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipaq - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:30] <reverseblade> shaggs, I have experience with radeon 9200 mobility
[10:30] <novat> n2diy, please help me! :(
[10:30] <jontec> need help (repost): I used the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting tutorial and now my card is not detected by kmix OR the system and sound STILL does not work
[10:30] <un_operateur> peirce141, you need to restart networking -- /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:30] <peirce141> un_operateur: alright thanks, ill try that and see if it works
[10:30] <n2diy> novat, help you with what?
[10:30] <blue-frog> peirce141: well restart network yes.. the best thing is to use the /system/admin/network gui
[10:30] <shaggs> hmm dont know if that will be the same issues
[10:30] <novat> with the put dual boot with Vista and Ubuntu?
[10:30] <shaggs> as this x550 is pci-e
[10:31] <reverseblade> novat, Vista is a forbidden word in this channel
[10:31] <b03nto> !dualboot
[10:31] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[10:31] <novat> reverseblade, i know
[10:31] <Ecter> Wow, I was just about to ask that, Ubotu, thanks.
[10:31] <Ecter> Err, that is a bot, isn't it?
[10:31] <Ecter> Eh
[10:31] <SkullBr00d> Hey people
[10:31] <un_operateur> ecter, you guessed right :)
[10:31] <reverseblade> Ecter, ubotu is a human, but you may be a bot
[10:32] <SkullBr00d> Hello?
[10:32] <reverseblade> Ecter, prove you are a human :)
[10:32] <n2diy> novate, I've never had a dual boot box, but a general rules is to install Windows first, and then Ubuntu, and you should be ok.
[10:32] <jvai> hey ppl..
[10:32] <reverseblade> Hi! SkullBr00d
[10:32] <peirce141> blue-frog: still doesnt work with changes to /etc/hosts
[10:32] <SkullBr00d> I have a small problem here...
[10:32] <novat> b03nto, bus is Vista!
[10:32] <novat> him kill my MBR!
[10:32] <novat> :(
[10:32] <blue-frog> peirce141: see pm
[10:32] <un_operateur> peirce, does this work -- ssh user@$HOSTNAME
[10:32] <reverseblade> !ask | SkullBr00d
[10:32] <ubotu> SkullBr00d: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:33] <SkullBr00d> I have Windows XP on my computer, but it's using all my hard drive (when I installed it it didn't ask me for partition sizes :S) and now I want to put Ubuntu on it.
[10:33] <novat> Vista's diferent?
[10:34] <peirce141> un_operateur: yes
[10:34] <SkullBr00d> Do you know any way of doing it through Windows partition manager? (I once tried Partition Magic and I just got my Partition blow up...  it was really magic LOL
[10:34] <novat> please somebody help for the questions
[10:34] <peirce141> un_operateur: /window 3
[10:34] <un_operateur> peirce141, if that works -- the client ought to
[10:34] <peirce141> un_operateur: sorry
[10:34] <un_operateur> peirce141, eh?
[10:34] <un_operateur> :)
[10:34] <peirce141> un_operateur: maybe its just my gentoo box is weird
[10:34] <Juhaz> SkullBr00d, the ubuntu installer can resize the partition, if you've got free space on it
[10:35] <reverseblade> SkullBr00d, not necessary, while installing ubuntu, ubuntu installer may resize the windows partition as you configured it. Nevertheless, backup your data
[10:35] <n2diy> SkullBr00d: how big is your hard drive, and how much of it is free?
[10:35] <peirce141> un_operateur: ill go try it on a different box and report back
[10:35] <Juhaz> SkullBr00d, and it usually works, still, it could blow up as well, no guarantees ever on that kind of trickery
[10:35] <SkullBr00d> I know, but I wanted to make it wiuthout installing ubuntu first.
[10:35] <reverseblade> SkullBr00d, a personal question , do you really need windows ?
[10:35] <SkullBr00d> Only for compatibility, that's my main need :(
[10:36] <reverseblade> SkullBr00d, compability for what ?
[10:36] <novat> reverseblade, vista+ubuntu+grub problem
[10:36] <SkullBr00d> plus my modem Sagem F@st 800 doesn't work on ubuntu ;)
[10:36] <Jeffm515> how do I mount a USB drive?
[10:36] <Jeffm515> I SEE it, but how do I mount it
[10:36] <SkullBr00d> there are loads of topics on ubuntu forums cuz of the crap that modem does.
[10:36] <reverseblade> novat, sorry, I dont know vista, I will not use it
[10:36] <ru4him> God day all
[10:36] <novat> :(
[10:36] <reverseblade> SkullBr00d, is this a dial up modem ?
[10:37] <SkullBr00d> no, it's DSL
[10:37] <SkullBr00d> But never mind that
[10:37] <SkullBr00d> I just wanted to have a nice dual boot system working smooth
[10:37] <reverseblade> SkullBr00d, so with ubuntu, how will you connect to internet ?
[10:37] <synjet> hi, I had a query reg. customizing my gnome-terminal into opening every session with a quote.. any ideas on how to get that? googling didnt help much..
[10:37] <SkullBr00d> I won't ;)
[10:37] <reverseblade> SkullBr00d, I know, but I just want to learn your personal situation, if it is not a problem for you
[10:37] <cntb> guys I discovered that ubuntu alternate CD leaves windows boot partition mistakenly in inactive state
[10:38] <Jeffm515> how do I mount a USB drive?
[10:38] <SkullBr00d> I only use Ubuntu for programming needs. I like it. Plus to test in a linux apache/mysql/php environment
[10:38] <cntb> when you ask ubuntu install to grub-install to its bootroot partition instead of MBR
[10:38] <cntb> anyone with me ?
[10:39] <_opex_> ya i read..
[10:39] <SkullBr00d> reverseblade: Oh ok no it's not a problem for me
[10:39] <cntb> I would like to report that
[10:39] <w3ccv> reverseblade, there are plenty of needs for Wundurz - Quicken, eBay's Turbo Lister for two
[10:39] <reverseblade> SkullBr00d, without internet ubuntu will be probably useless. Having that said, while installing ubuntu, you can resize the windows partition. I have done it earlier, it just worked fine. I consider it safe. But its me. If you have important data just backup. Installing windows is an easy task
[10:39] <cntb> opex \o
[10:39] <SkullBr00d> I know I've done it loads of times.
[10:39] <ru4him> i have a problem i plugged my usb harddrive in while in root and it comes back after i click on the open in new window error kde deamon Malformed URL
[10:39] <cntb> what is the suffix in front of your nick opex ?
[10:40] <reverseblade> w3ccv, this doesn't justify dualboot. I am using windows from vmware, and I am very happy about it
[10:40] <SkullBr00d> Yeah IU should try to install it, thanks a bunch, guys
[10:40] <ru4him> but when i do it in theuser mode it works
[10:40] <synjet> not to be persistent, but any ideas/hints?
[10:40] <w3ccv> reverseblade, dual boot / vmware - still a need for Wundurz  Use which ever method you're happy with (and works easily)
[10:41] <black-flag> hello all
[10:41] <peirce141> un_operateur: it is saying connection times out with both my windows xp box and my gentoo box
[10:41] <ru4him> i have a problem i plugged my usb harddrive in while in root and it comes back after i click on the open in new window error kde deamon Malformed URL
[10:41] <jontec> is there anyway to get ubuntu to re-detect my sound card?
[10:41] <ru4him> but when i do it in theuser mode it works
[10:41] <un_operateur> synjet, open every session with a quote?? what do you mean? explain
[10:41] <_opex_> cntb what means 'opex' ?
[10:41] <reverseblade> w3ccv, what is Wundurz ?
[10:41] <cntb> ha
[10:41] <_opex_> it means...
[10:41] <synjet> un_operateur: the terminal would open with a quotation..
[10:42] <w3ccv> reverseblade, that crap from M$ it is a Wonder it works
[10:42] <un_operateur> peirce141, are you absolutely sure the box isnt running a firewall -- iptables -L
[10:42] <synjet> un_operateur: a random one from a database
[10:42] <_opex_> eerr...i lost the word..
[10:42] <_opex_> :)
[10:42] <black-flag> any one can help me to use my dvb card under ubuntu :) ?
[10:42] <cntb> I would like to tab complete your nick _opex what do I do ?
[10:42] <reverseblade> jontec, yes, but dunno how
[10:42] <cflcm> is there a way to make grip close when it finishes ripping and encoding a cd?
[10:42] <un_operateur> synjet, do you program a language that can read the database and format the quote?
[10:42] <cflcm> or a way to start grip without creating multiple instances?
[10:42] <ru4him> i have a problem i plugged my usb harddrive in while in root and it comes back after i click on the open in new window error kde deamon Malformed URL
[10:42] <diskus> synjet: check .bashrc
[10:42] <cntb> !ask | ru4him
[10:42] <ubotu> ru4him: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:42] <reverseblade> cflcm, eject -t
[10:42] <ru4him> i have a problem i plugged my usb harddrive in while in root and it comes back after i click on the open in new window error kde deamon Malformed URL
[10:42] <peirce141> un_operateur: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38415/
[10:43] <_opex_>  _ and TAB ?
[10:43] <ru4him> but when i do it in theuser mode it works
[10:43] <reverseblade> ru4him, try #kde ,as well
[10:43] <diskus> ru4him: write your message again so that people will understand it
[10:43] <synjet> un_operateur: nope, it is just from an install that dloads the database.. I saw it on a mac's emacs shell; diskus: I tried tweaking my .bashrc, but was unable to get resources to "howto"
[10:43] <eilker> ru4him: did u try to resart kde ?
[10:43] <MrSprout> Could I get some help with a dual core issue?
[10:43] <flevour> after upgrading to fiesty, gnome doesnt automatically display my ipod icon on the desktop when i plug it in, even if hal correctly mounts it under /media. what do i need to do to reenable that behaviour?
[10:43] <reverseblade> !ask MrSprout
[10:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask MrSprout - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:43] <MrSprout> Ubuntu is only recognizing one core.
[10:44] <reverseblade> MrSprout, nosmp ?
[10:44] <synjet> !ask >MrSprout
[10:44] <cflcm> reverseblade: do I start it with that parameter?
[10:44] <MrSprout> I'm totally new with linux.
[10:44] <reverseblade> cflcm, no that command closes the CD tray in
[10:44] <Stormx2> MrSprout: Thats fine.
[10:44] <cflcm> oh, I meant is there a way to make it automatically close when it is done
[10:44] <w3ccv> peirce141, you need to 'iptables -I INPUT 3  -p tcp --dport ssh -j ACCEPT"
[10:44] <reverseblade> MrSprout, what problem do you have specifically
[10:45] <MrSprout> I've got ubuntu working great, but it's only utilizing one of my two processor cores.
[10:45] <reverseblade> cflcm, yes absolutely, try cd_recording_command && eject -t
[10:45] <MrSprout> I'm running a core 2 duo.
[10:45] <reverseblade> MrSprout, how do you know ?
[10:45] <mralphabet> MrSprout: how did you determine this?
[10:45] <reverseblade> MrSprout, what is your computer's brand ?
[10:46] <MrSprout> I built it myself
[10:46] <peirce141> w3ccv: alright, ill try that
[10:46] <reverseblade> MrSprout, how do you know it uses 1 proc ?
[10:46] <MrSprout> hang on, i'll get the command I used.
[10:47] <peirce141> w3ccv: still nothing
[10:47] <MrSprout> cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep '^processor' | wc -l
[10:47] <MrSprout> I tried that
[10:47] <MrSprout> it returned 1
[10:47] <w3ccv> peirce141, paste the new iptalbes -L
[10:47] <reverseblade> MrSprout, I have also 2 processors let me try it
[10:47] <atle|f> top then press 1
[10:47] <un_operateur> peirce141, seems you dont have a opening for SSH after all
[10:47] <diskus> MrSprout: and you run SMP kernel?
[10:48] <MrSprout> No
[10:48] <un_operateur> peirce141, IPTABLES -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT
[10:48] <MrSprout> I have no idea what that means, but my friend told me I didn't
[10:48] <WebMaven> Hi folks. I just installed a new video card in another computer. During the install I moved the ethernet card to a different PCI slot. After the hardware upgrade, I ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and the new card works fine. However, the network card is no longer detected. What do I do?
[10:48] <ru4him> yes eilker i even restated computer same problem
[10:48] <reverseblade> MrSprout, that also outputs 1 for me
[10:48] <jontec> is there anyway to get ubuntu to re-detect my sound card?
[10:48] <un_operateur> peirce141, oops --  iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT
[10:48] <n2diy> MrSprout:  your first processor is 0, the second one is 1
[10:48] <ru4him> with the harddrive plugged in
[10:48] <anto9us> *ding dong* This is a public announcement. A quiz has now commenced in #ubuntu-trivia. So, if you're up for a bit of fun/showing off/frustrated typing and angst as someone beats you to the answer. Then please join #ubuntu-trivia. Thank you for your attention. *dong ding*
[10:48] <diskus> MrSprout: just cat /proc/cpuinfo and read everything from there
[10:48] <reverseblade> MrSprout, that output is just fine
[10:49] <eilker> ru4him: by the way, next time, u dont have to reboot, just sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[10:49] <MrSprout> ok, hang on
[10:49] <un_operateur> synjet, can you work your quote program from the command line? has it a command line interface?
[10:49] <cflcm> well, that won't quite do what I need, so is there a way to start so that if there is already a grip instance running it will not start another?
[10:49] <MrSprout> diskus, do you want me to paste all this?
[10:49] <ru4him> ok ei
[10:49] <reverseblade> cflcm, what do you mean ?
[10:49] <diskus> MrSprout: no, just read it for yourself, there's only one processor?
[10:49] <n2diy> MrSprout:  your first processor is 0, the second one is 1
[10:50] <peirce141> un_operateur: ill try it
[10:50] <MrSprout> ok
[10:50] <diskus> I don't even know how dual cores behave in Linux
[10:50] <synjet> un_operateur: I wish I knew the name.. I have no idea of the prog, I just know such a facility exists.. hence the ignorance.. it is unlike the cowpatty (that gives the word inside an ASCII cow) that is CLI
[10:50] <diskus> are they seen as 2 different processors?
[10:50] <reverseblade> cflcm, you can write a script that checks the output of pgrep <target_process> , so if it exists it does something , etc
[10:50] <drach> diskus: yes as 2 processors
[10:50] <reverseblade> diskus, yes
[10:50] <cflcm> I want to set it up to automatically rip cds as I put them in, but setting it to run automatically means that if I rip 50 cds, unless I close the instances as I go, there will be 50 instances of it running at once
[10:50] <MrSprout> diskus the cat /proc/cpuinfo command just shows processor: 0
[10:50] <WebMaven> Hi folks. I just installed a new video card in another computer. During the install I moved the ethernet card to a different PCI slot. After the hardware upgrade, I ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and the new card works fine. However, the network card is no longer detected. What do I do?
[10:50] <reverseblade> MrSprout, I am assure that output is nothing abnormal for 2 cpus
[10:50] <un_operateur> synjet, ok, hold up
[10:51] <MrSprout> ok reverseblade, but is there a way for me to be sure it's using both cores?
[10:51] <synjet> un_operateur: sure..
[10:51] <diskus> MrSprout: can you paste 'uname -a' to me, it should print one line only
[10:51] <MrSprout> Linux michael 2.6.17-10-386 #2 Tue Dec 5 22:26:18 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:51] <MrSprout> Is that right?
[10:52] <n2diy> MrSprout: are you running the SMP kernel?
[10:52] <MrSprout> n2diy, I have no idea.
[10:52] <reverseblade> MrSprout, I can suggest you a rough way. It does not guarantee but it gives you an idea. Try glxgears -printfps, and tell me what output do you get
[10:52] <diskus> MrSprout: you should try installing SMP kernel
[10:52] <gremi> Hi all, I want to install an edgy 62 (i have already a 32 bin installation) . Do I have to separate the /boot on an ext3 partiton?
[10:52] <gremi> 64
[10:52] <un_operateur> synchk,  here you go -- sudo aptitude install fortune
[10:52] <reverseblade> MrSprout, that's true SMP is a must for 2 x proc
[10:52] <un_operateur> synjet, oops ^^^
[10:52] <reverseblade> !smp | MrSprout
[10:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:52] <n2diy> If you have dual CPUs you need to install an SMP kernel, use synaptic to do it.
[10:52] <mjr> gremi, generally no, unless your root filesystem is on a funky logical disk or something
[10:53] <reverseblade> Smp is symetric multi processing blah blah..
[10:53] <MrSprout> reverseblade
[10:53] <MrSprout> 1263 frames in 5.0 seconds = 252.030 FPS
[10:53] <Infeliz-> lol
[10:53] <un_operateur> synjet, once you've installed fortune .. its just a matter of adding a line to the end of your ~/.bashrc (which you already know)
[10:53] <atle|f> i thought the generic covered smp as well
[10:53] <WebMaven> Am I asking my question wrong?
[10:53] <gremi> I can use the /boot of my 32 bit partition to lanch the 64 bit system?
[10:53] <reverseblade> MrSprout, prolly single cpu
[10:53] <MrSprout> arggh.. nuts.
[10:53] <reverseblade> not a guarantee though, just a guess
[10:53] <mjr> atle|f, not the 386 one...
[10:53] <synjet> un_operateur: thanks.. I guess that is what I was looking for..
[10:54] <MrSprout> So how do I install a SMP kernel?
[10:54] <reverseblade> MrSprout, how did you installed ubuntu ?
[10:54] <MrSprout> from the livecd
[10:54] <Seveas> MrBrizzio, the default kernel can do SMP
[10:54] <MrSprout> then installed from there.
[10:54] <MrSprout> gui
[10:54] <Seveas> MrSprout*
[10:54] <reverseblade> MrBrizzio, it should already install SMP
[10:54] <n2diy> MrSprout: with synaptic, in /system/admin.
[10:54] <un_operateur> synjet, there are more fortune cookie databases available -- aptitude search fortune
[10:54] <gan|y|med> hi
[10:55] <WebMaven> Hello?
[10:55] <reverseblade> !hi | gan|y|med
[10:55] <ubotu> gan|y|med: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[10:55] <atle|f> uname -a on x2 amd = Linux m2n 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Tue Dec 5 22:28:26 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:55] <gan|y|med> in dapper i could connect my eos 350d just fine, automatic detection (ptp mode), everything worked fine. in edgy i cannot access the camera in ptp mode at all. auto detection gives normal mode. i can connect and see the pics, but i can't download them. libgphoto2 is installed
[10:55] <cflcm> reverseblade, did that make any sense?
[10:55] <synjet> un_operateur: oh ok.. I wasnt searching with the right key word (quote/quotation didnt help) and hence the rock I hit.. thanks!
[10:55] <gan|y|med> i know digikam is not used in ubuntu, but might it be a udev related problem?
[10:55] <reverseblade> cflcm, what excuse me ?
[10:55] <rance> I need some help getting around a known alsa bug, the driver for my card is known to wrongly detect the capabilities of the hardware, thus rendering sound useless, I've fixed part of my problem, but havent been able to finish, can someone give me some pointers
[10:55] <cflcm> I want to set it up to automatically rip cds as I put them in, but setting it to run automatically means that if I rip 50 cds, unless I close the instances as I go, there will be 50 instances of it running at once
[10:56] <reverseblade> rance, may be compining ALSA from source ?
[10:56] <reverseblade> compiling
[10:56] <WebMaven> I have Dapper installed. I moved the ethernet card to anothe PCI slot, and now it doesn't work. What do I do?
[10:56] <diskus> WebMaven: tried to move it to different slot?
[10:56] <Seveas> WebMaven, put it back?
[10:56] <un_operateur> ha ha
[10:57] <synjet> Webmaven: is it not detecting the card or a network.. it might be recognizing it as eth2 or something else..
[10:57] <un_operateur> WebMaven, try ifconfig
[10:57] <WebMaven> diskus, Seveas: it would block the video card fan in the original spot.
[10:57] <foo> I needed to boot ubuntu 6.10 with noapic ... and, the only difference I see is the splash screen .. the quality is terrible. I installed with this, and it looks like the installed version does the same. Any way to fix this?
[10:57] <reverseblade> foo
[10:57] <diskus> WebMaven: you probably have more than one extra PCI slot?
[10:57] <reverseblade> foo, what is your comps brand ?
[10:57] <WebMaven> un_operateur: ifconfig only shows lo, not eth0
[10:58] <diskus> WebMaven: try ifconfig -a
[10:58] <foo> reverseblade: white box
[10:58] <tomh-> how many files can a ext3 filesystem directory contain?
[10:58] <MrSprout> What advantages does a SMP kernel offer?
[10:58] <MrSprout> over whatever it is I'm running now.
[10:58] <diskus> MrSprout: more than 1 cpu
[10:58] <reverseblade> foo, what quality is terrible ?
[10:58] <Stormx2> tomh-: Infinitum... I think
[10:58] <foo> reverseblade: The start up screen that shows Ubuntu and then the progress bar
[10:58] <rance> reversibleblade: thanks for the hint, I tried that and the compiled module refused to load into a running kernel
[10:58] <reverseblade> MrSprout, it is the only way that kernel runs your 2 cpus symettrically
[10:58] <w3ccv> tomh-, lots mor than you want in it
[10:58] <rance> not sure why
[10:58] <MrSprout> Ok
[10:58] <WebMaven> diskus: only 3 PCI slots
[10:59] <reverseblade> MrSprout, wikipedia: smp
[10:59] <MrSprout> so how do I set it up?
[10:59] <MrSprout> ok
[10:59] <MrSprout> thanks
[10:59] <n2diy> If you have dual CPUs, you are only using one of them now, SMP would turn them both on.
[10:59] <un_operateur> tomh-, as many as the harddisk will contain? :)
[10:59] <rance> now I have a fresh install and trying again
[10:59] <clintiepoo> Hi, I was wondering if someone could help me change my screen resolution.  I have edited xconf.org several times but I am still struggling...
[10:59] <WebMaven> diskus: ifconfig -a also shows sit0
[10:59] <n2diy> MrSprout: If you have dual CPUs, you are only using one of them now, SMP would turn them both on.
[10:59] <reverseblade> foo, what exactly bothers you ?
[10:59] <MrSprout> ok
[10:59] <MrSprout> that's what I'm after n2diy
[10:59] <un_operateur> WebMaven, do you know the make/model of your NIC?
[10:59] <diskus> WebMaven: well, I had similar problem about 5 years ago, only solution I could find then was moving card back
[10:59] <synjet> clintiepoo: did you restart xserver to make the change effective?
[11:00] <reverseblade> MrSprout, as long as you do not have nosmp option in boot options, you should be using smp
[11:00] <Lunis> can anyone suggest a good download manager with multi-part, multi-source downloading?
[11:00] <Lunis> preferably for gnome
[11:00] <n2diy> MrSprout: ok so go to system/admin, and click on synaptic.
[11:00] <Seveas> Lunis, gwget or d4x
[11:00] <reverseblade> Lunis, curl ?
[11:00] <Lunis> perhaps like re-get
[11:00] <amaia> hi, how can I create an ad-hoc wireless network using network manager? using "create new wireless network" fails because it attemps to get an IP address via DHCP which obviously will fail because i am the only computer on the network...
[11:00] <un_operateur> Lunis, gwget
[11:00] <Lunis> Seveas: un_operateur thanks, i'll check those two out
[11:00] <clintiepoo> yeah. The login screen is in a new resolution. The problem is that I can ctrl-alt-bksp to restart, and it won't let me log back in.  It just restarts x when I try.  I have to restore my backup xorg.conf
[11:01] <un_operateur> . o 0 ( ha ha, new mr. gullible )
[11:01] <WebMaven> un_operateur: Not exactly. The device manager shows it as an unknown VIA device.
[11:01] <clintiepoo> I have a Dell 2405FPW
[11:01] <foo> reverseblade: uh, it's really low quality due to noapic. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=286820 - this was my issue
[11:01] <tomh-> and how about the amount of directories per directory in ext3?
[11:02] <tomh-> cause my client has a server which has a limit of 32k
[11:02] <un_operateur> WebMaven, try this at a terminal -- dmesg | egrep -i "eth|net"
[11:02] <tomh-> which is weird i think
[11:02] <un_operateur> tomh-, its a variable amount
[11:02] <reverseblade> foo, I am using noapic  also. AFAIK noapic has no practical affect on the kernel, and your display
[11:02] <tomh-> how ?
[11:02] <gan|y|med> i have a process (digikam) that i cannot kill with kill -9. what can i do???
[11:02] <diskus> gan|y|med: reboot?
[11:02] <w3ccv> WebMaven, computers are really dumb, if it didnt' knwo the card 5 years ago it still won't know
[11:02] <lola_> hiiii i'm a desperate physics student and i have no idea how to do this but i have to compile a program my teacher made in c and i don't have the c libraries or however you call them can anyone help me please?
[11:02] <lola_> ?
[11:02] <reverseblade> gan|y|med, sudo killall -9 process name
[11:02] <gan|y|med> great idea
[11:02] <b03nto> !nubuntu
[11:02] <BearPerson> gan|y|med, kill its parent
[11:03] <gan|y|med> i am not on windows
[11:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:03] <Lunis> Seveas: D4X looks like what I'm wanting, thanks :)
[11:03] <gan|y|med> how do i figure out its parent?
[11:03] <n2diy> ganly, what about 9?
[11:03] <reverseblade> lola_, sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[11:03] <chris218> hey guys. i need some help my install on a vaio sz-110 notebook. the graphics are terrible after i updated some things and rebooted
[11:03] <un_operateur> tomh-, it depends on how the data structure for the file table is implemented on disk and how much space it occupies
[11:03] <Madpilot> lola_, get build-essential to compile stuff
[11:03] <Madpilot> ubotu, b-e | lola_
[11:03] <ubotu> lola_: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:03] <lola_> thanks!!!
[11:03] <WebMaven> un_operateur: one line says something about an audit...
[11:03] <BearPerson> gan|y|med, should be in the column PPID (parent pid) in ps aux / ps -eaf / top
[11:03] <reverseblade> chris218, graphic card
[11:04] <WebMaven> un_operateur: audit: initializing netlink socket (disabled)
[11:04] <gan|y|med> thx a lot
[11:04] <valentino> hey, is there a way to compile delphi under linux?
[11:04] <Seveas> valentino, not really
[11:04] <timo901> Hey I'm trying to install xmms vumeter-0.9.2
[11:04] <Seveas> valentino, there's kylix, but it's non-free
[11:04] <gan|y|med> it si not even listed in top. trying the othres
[11:05] <gan|y|med> others
[11:05] <valentino> Seveas: i went to borland site and kylix is not there anymore
[11:05] <timo901> im getting this error message; checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[11:05] <diskus> kylix is still alive?
[11:05] <twix> i'm on a kubuntu livecd, anyone know if there's a way to startup the installer from here?
[11:05] <WebMaven> un_operateur: was that what you were looking for?
[11:05] <Seveas> !compiling | valentino
[11:05] <ubotu> valentino: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:05] <un_operateur> WebMaven, was that the only line of output?
[11:05] <timo901> twix:there should be an installer button on the desktop
[11:05] <un_operateur> WebMaven, try this -- dmesg | egrep -i "eth|net" -A 3
[11:06] <clintiepoo> does anyone have experience editing xconf.org?
[11:06] <bobbyc> hello, i installed compiz/xgl using a tutorial and it was working fine. after installing a lot of programs/codecs using automatix it seems to have stopped working since rebooting. can anyone help me?
[11:06] <twix> timo901: it's an old kubuntu livecd, and there isn't...can it be downloaded?
[11:06] <bobbyc> /usr/bin/thefuture: line 2: gnome-window-decorator: command not found
[11:06] <WebMaven> un_operateur: no, several other lines about 'registered protocol family'
[11:06] <bobbyc> is the error message i get
[11:06] <n2diy> clintiepoo: yes
[11:06] <puff> I'm having some problems with gnome... they seem to come and go. First symptom was keyboard problems, a few keys not working properly, also randomly turning on numlock.
[11:06] <Madpilot> twix, if you're going to download something, grab the newest Kubuntu LiveCD
[11:06] <un_operateur> webben, please pastebin the last command
[11:06] <foo> reverseblade: ohhh, interesting. That's the kind of thing I was looking for.
[11:06] <foo> reverseblade: Uh, that's really weird, then.
[11:06] <diskus> valentino: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kylix_programming_tool = Kylix is dead, forget it
[11:06] <Seveas> bobbyc, automatix tends to break things
[11:06] <gan|y|med> ok, its parent id is 1!
[11:07] <puff> now I'm having mouse problems as well, can't get it to let me change apps.
[11:07] <gan|y|med> what does this mean???
[11:07] <timo901> twix:i dont know ,to be honest, mabe try the terminal
[11:07] <bobbyc> i see
[11:07] <twix> rgr, thanks
[11:07] <puff> Firefox wouldn't let me change from tab to tab, managed to get into a terminal window, ran top, saw gnome-terminal taking 97% of cpu, killed the process.
[11:07] <Stormx2> British Television is ripping off Linux! UKTV History current programme: Nautilus. E4 current programma: Kalifornia
[11:07] <Seveas> bobbyc, you're better of starting from scratch than trying to repair what automatix broke
[11:07] <bobbyc> if i were to go through the tutorial again would it still work? thats if i can find it
[11:07] <puff> I'm typing this now in a console window, everything works fine, so it's not a mechanical problem.
[11:07] <Seveas> !offtopic | Stormx2
[11:07] <ubotu> Stormx2: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:08] <Seveas> bobbyc, probably not
[11:08] <timo901> sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop , some thing like that
[11:08] <puff> Anybody have any idea what's causing this?
[11:08] <un_operateur> Stormx2, what are they saying?
[11:08] <jeeves_Moss> all:  does anyone here know about gkismet?  I can't get it to work
[11:08] <clintiepoo> I'm having some problems.  I have this 24" monitor here and I can only get it to be 1024x768
[11:08] <WebMaven> un_operateur: a lot more output. What am I looking for?
[11:08] <MrSprout> clintiepoo
[11:08] <clintiepoo> yeah
[11:08] <timo901> any one know why im getting this error
[11:08] <MrSprout> I had the exact same problem yesterday
[11:08] <gan|y|med> no chance.
[11:08] <timo901> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[11:08] <Seveas> puff, does g-t always do that?
[11:08] <Stormx2> un_operateur: Talk in #ubuntu-offtopic as Seveas said
[11:08] <puff> MrSprout: Was that to me?
[11:08] <timo901> vumeter-0.9.2
[11:08] <Seveas> !compiling | timo901
[11:08] <ubotu> timo901: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:09] <gouki> jeeves_Moss: Kismet is made up by two parts. The server kismet_server and client, kismet_client. Have you configured the server part?
[11:09] <puff> Seveas: g-t?
[11:09] <MrSprout> no, to clintiepoo
[11:09] <puff> Seveas: Oh, gnome-terminal.  No.
[11:09] <Seveas> puff gnome-terminal :)
[11:09] <bobbyc> ok thanks seveas, i'm gonan give the tutorial another go.
[11:09] <puff> Seveas: Never seen it do that.
[11:09] <MrSprout> anyway, brb
[11:09] <n2diy> puff, I missed the question.
[11:09] <timo901> thnka yo
[11:09] <WebMaven> un_operateur: hello?
[11:09] <timo901> thank you*
[11:09] <clintiepoo> what did you do to fix it?  I'm running around in circles...
[11:09] <jeeves_Moss> gouk:  yes.  I'm getting a "Can't locate Gnome.pm" error
[11:09] <Seveas> puff, the only time I see g-t do that is when it has to scroll an insane amount of text
[11:10] <WebMaven> un_operateur: hello?
[11:10] <gouki> jeeves_Moss: What Wireless NIC are you using?
[11:10] <puff> Seveas: Well, I'd just gone through and deleted about 500 spams from mutt, but I've never seen it react that way in the past.
[11:10] <jeeves_Moss> gouki:  it's an athoes.  I can get Kismit to run properly by running "kismet" @ the shell, but I want to run a more graphical version of it.
[11:11] <puff> n2diy: Want a private message of it?
[11:11] <timo901> is there a short cut to run a terminal
[11:11] <n2diy> puff, never dealt with a private message!
[11:11] <Seveas> puff, what I mean is more like "while true; do cat /some/file; done
[11:11] <Seveas> so, continuous scrolling
[11:12] <gouki> jeeves_Moss: Is it apt-getable? (gkismet, that is)
[11:12] <puff> Seveas: Ah, no, it's not doing that.
[11:12] <puff> That is, i wasn't doing anything like that.
[11:12] <chris218> hey guys. im having troule with my graphics after installing and rebooting ubuntu after updating. the grahpics card is GeForce 7400 Go on my vaio sz-110 notebook. im running off the live cd right now. i installed ver. 6.06 this morning and after first install this issue happened
[11:12] <Seveas> puff, then blame it on microsoft and forget about it ;) It probably won't do it again and if it's not reproducible, it's ery hard to fix
[11:12] <jeeves_Moss> aouki:  no it's not unfornatuly.
[11:13] <puff> Oh, so now after killing gnome, firefox lets me use th emouse to select abs, but ctrl-tab doesn't work, and I can't seem to minimize firefox or alt-tab or use the window-select dropdown that I added to the control panel.
[11:14] <timo901> thank you every thing has compiled
[11:14] <n2diy> Why is k3b locking my cdrw disks, how can I prevent it?
[11:14] <puff> Come ot think of it, that's one of the changes I made recently, added about a half dozen items to the panel.  Could that be causing this?
[11:14] <chris218> any help on the graphics issue?
[11:14] <Life> hello, for some reason my server's connectivity is down, can't ping to anything
[11:14] <Life> any help?
[11:14] <Life> there is no firewall, so can't be a firewall's fault
[11:15] <jbroome> uhh, could the net connection be down?
[11:15] <Life> network is fine
[11:15] <gouki> Life: Can you ping the nearest side of the router? I do recommend ##networking if it's not Ubuntu related
[11:15] <puff> Life What do you mean you can't ping anything?
[11:15] <WebMaven> un_operateur: OK, I got the output onto a USB stick, and here is the pastebin: http://pastebin.com/843398
[11:15] <puff> Life: That is, if it's down, how are you here?
[11:15] <un_operateur> WebMaven, ok
[11:15] <Life> puff: remote server working via KVM over IP
[11:15] <Life> puff: ping = time out
[11:15] <puff> Life: Presumably you're using a different computer?  So describe the tests you've done with your problem server.
[11:15] <timo901> should apt-get GLIB >= 1.2.10 ,get the packedeg
[11:16] <Seveas> Life, if you can connect to it, it's working
[11:16] <puff> Life:  so you're on the console of the bx?
[11:16] <markoutthere> Hello all, I am having problems installing a video driver for hp pavilion zt1180, anyone know how to do it?
[11:16] <Life> puff: sorry, "unknown host"
[11:16] <Seveas> if you can't ping from it, phone your colo and tell them not to block ping
[11:16] <markoutthere> I am a linux newbie
[11:16] <Life> puff: yes
[11:16] <Life> serveas: im pinging FROM the server
[11:16] <timo901> ohh its sudo apt-get install GLIB >= 1.2.10
[11:16] <Seveas> Life, "unknown host" --> fix your dns setup and try pinging to an ip
[11:16] <gouki> Life: Can you ping the nearest side of the router?
[11:17] <Life> gouki: will try
[11:17] <lola_> Madpilot and ubotu: thanks very much!
[11:17] <puff> Life: Yeah, step one, ping the IP address of your router.  The internal network address, assuming oyu're doing NAT.
[11:17] <n2diy> Life, can you ping your loopback device?
[11:17] <puff> n2diy: Ooh, good one.
[11:17] <un_operateur> WebMaven, can you do these two --- lspci; hwinfo;
[11:17] <wsjunior> hello i installed ati driver here but fglrxinfo shows me MESA instead of ATI.. does anybody knows how to fix this?
[11:18] <Seveas> [, stop the nickchange spam
[11:18] <puff> n2diy: Just kidding... but yeah, good idea.
[11:18] <Life> seveas: pinging the server's own IP address works
[11:18] <Life> pinging the gateway IP doesn't work
[11:18] <n2diy> puff, thanks.
[11:18] <WebMaven> un_operateur: OK, give me a minute
[11:18] <Life> n2diy: pinging localhost works
[11:19] <puff> Life: okay, so make sure that your netowrk is up?  iwconfig, check for the netwoerk device and see it's status.
[11:19] <un_operateur> !ati | wsjunior
[11:19] <ubotu> wsjunior: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:19] <n2diy> Ok, so ping is working.
[11:19] <gouki> puff: iwconfig is for wireless NICs
[11:19] <n2diy> Life, Ok, so ping is working.
[11:20] <Life> puff: iwconfig?
[11:20] <n2diy> Life, you could have a bad network cable?
[11:20] <Life> n2siy: im 100% sure it's the server itself
[11:20] <WebMaven> un_operateur: hwinfo isn't a valid command
[11:20] <Life> n2diy*
[11:20] <un_operateur> .o 0 ( maybe he meant ifconfig )
[11:20] <gouki> Life: No, use ifconfig -a instea
[11:20] <gouki> Life: No, use ifconfig -a instead
[11:21] <un_operateur> WebMaven, lspci will have to do then
[11:21] <n2diy> Life, ok.
[11:21] <dibblego> !nvidia
[11:21] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:22] <puff> Life: Sorry, ifconfig.
[11:22] <Life> gouki: loopback has packets, however sit0 has no packets at all
[11:22] <puff> Life: Been doing a lot of wireless lately.
[11:22] <n2diy> Life, you might try stopping and then re-starting the server.
[11:22] <Life> n2diy: okay will reboot server now
[11:23] <n2diy> Life, you don't have to reboot.
[11:23] <Life> n2diy: too late
[11:23] <Life> :O
[11:23] <magic_ninja> my mouse is going on and off via xfce, any ideas
[11:23] <puff> Damn, I think I figured out what happened... odd though.  Either that or the problem just mysteriously went away.
[11:23] <WebMaven> un_operateur: http://pastebin.com/843402
[11:23] <magic_ninja> ohh yea my distro is edgy 6.10
[11:23] <Life> n2diy: rebooted
[11:23] <puff> to wit, I found a gnome "run application" popup, canceled that and now I can swithc windows and all.
[11:23] <Life> n2diy: eth0 is 100mbs for full duplex (up and running)
[11:23] <foo> I am going to install windows on this drive on a separate partition. In the past I have installed windows, then ubuntu.. and ubuntu picked up the windows partition. Is there a way to rerun grub after I install windows so it can detect the windows install?
[11:24] <chris218> after rebooting, graphics out of whack. is there a way to revert back to graphics settings before reboot? please help
[11:24] <n2diy> Life, cool.
[11:24] <magic_ninja> foo: yes, there is a command in console to restore the grub menu
[11:24] <kevman> Does anyone know  how to change the mapping of laptop playback keys?
[11:24] <magic_ninja> foo: give me one moment plz
[11:25] <n2diy> kevman, system/pref/keyboard
[11:25] <ziadoz> does anyone know why the @ symbol on my keyboard keeps coming out as an ?
[11:25] <magic_ninja> foo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[11:25] <un_operateur> WebMaven, thats odd -- your card is detected (last entry) but i dont think it's loaded right, maybe because drivers are missing -- you'll need to manually gather the make/model name and download and install drivers
[11:26] <kevman> hur, maybe I should ask in kubuntu
[11:26] <magic_ninja> un_operateur: that is soooooo fun
[11:26] <WebMaven> But it was working before... I didn't change the network card, only the video card.
[11:26] <magic_ninja> foo: that what you need?
[11:26] <n2diy> ziadoz, is it a stock keyboard setup?
[11:26] <WebMaven> I only *moved* the network card.
[11:26] <Kezman74> I'm looking for a good FS I can use on an external drive between OSX, Linux and Windblows. Take away FAT and what are my options? I need rw, and could store very large files?
[11:26] <ziadoz> n2diy, its a bog standard no name keyboard, no special keys
[11:26] <kutkinna> !id
[11:26] <ubotu> join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[11:27] <ziadoz> its set up to UK-GB, which is where im from :p
[11:27] <un_operateur> WebMaven, I know -- it's why i expressed surprise
[11:27] <bruenig> Kezman74, ext3, then just get the windows driver that allows you to read/write to it
[11:27] <n2diy> ziadoz, take a look in system/pref/keyboard
[11:27] <clintiepoo> Ok, I have been reading a lot about this.  I have done a lot of trial and error.  My Dell 2405FPW does not work correctly.  I have a ATI Technologies Inc RV370 5B60 [Radeon X300 (PCIE)]  graphics card.  Can someone please help me rewrite my xconf.org? Please?
[11:28] <puff> Damn, okay, I spoke to soon, the screen-switching problme is stll there... coming and going.
[11:28] <un_operateur> !ati | clintiepoo
[11:28] <ubotu> clintiepoo: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:28] <WebMaven> un_operateur: is there anything I can do to re-do the hardware autodetection and setup?
[11:28] <clintiepoo> ok, that helps.
[11:28] <clintiepoo> thanks
[11:28] <ziadoz> n2diy, what should i be looking for in settings, everything looks ok?
[11:28] <Kezman74> clintiepoo: change to VESA will get your gui up.
[11:29] <n2diy> ziadoz, remove your keyboard setup, and then add it back in?
[11:29] <Red-Sox>  How do I change the lil symbol next to the Applications menu in Gnome?
[11:29] <Kezman74> bruenig: Yeah I think thats the way I'll go
[11:29] <clintiepoo> Kezman74: I'm not sure what that means
[11:30] <un_operateur> WebMaven, well, the autodetection has already happened -- linux has found the card -- but it just isnt setup for some reason -- and ubuntu doesnt give up easy -- so it looks like it needs manual intervention
[11:30] <ziadoz> n2diy, I still get an  symbol :\
[11:30] <Ace2016> Hi all
[11:30] <n2diy> clintiepoo: GUI graphical user interface
[11:30] <Ace2016> Whats gnome's file manager called?
[11:30] <clintiepoo> Yeah, I knew that... :)  I didn't know VESA
[11:30] <bruenig> Ace2016, nautilus
[11:31] <Rydekull> a
[11:31] <MrSprout> Hello again everyone.
[11:31] <OkinawaInstructo> i am trying to access my fiber optic router but having no luck, anyone have ideas?
[11:31] <bruenig> !hi | MrBrizzio
[11:31] <ubotu> MrBrizzio: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[11:31] <jeeves_Moss> all:  can someone here help me with gkismet?
[11:31] <n2diy> Add a second keyboard, if it will let you, and select that one?
[11:31] <WebMaven> un_operateur: I didn't reinstall, isn't the hardware detection more thorough when you install?
[11:31] <Kezman74> clintiepoo: In xorg.conf under driver in the Device section, change whatever it is to vesa
[11:31] <MrSprout> What kernel should I be using for my core 2 duo?
[11:31] <n2diy> ziadoz, Add a second keyboard, if it will let you, and select that one?
[11:32] <ziadoz> i can put in as many keyboards as I like, but all the UK ones give me an 
[11:32] <clintiepoo> it doesn't say any driver
[11:33] <Life> i will be reinstalling Ubuntu..
[11:33] <Kezman74> clintiepoo: try this, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:33] <MrSprout> anyone?
[11:33] <jeeves_Moss> all:  hello anyone?
[11:33] <Kezman74> clintiepoo: when it asks you don't put ati, put vesa
[11:33] <un_operateur> WebMaven, well, yea, i would presume  -- but i cant be sure
[11:34] <clintiepoo> ok, I'll do that.
[11:34] <jeeves_Moss> MrSprout:  don't feel bad.  no one in here is up to helping anyone out.  it took me like 2 hours earlier today
[11:34] <timo901> whats up
[11:34] <timo901> Mrs
[11:34] <jbroome> jeeves_Moss: you get what you pay for
[11:34] <jeeves_Moss> timo901:  are you able to help me with this gkismet issue?
[11:35] <jeeves_Moss> jbroome:  lol, yep.  I try to help out with what little I know when I'm in here.
[11:35] <timo901> whats the issue
[11:35] <Kezman74> ok I need to reboot my XP machine, mwahahahaaaa
[11:35] <un_operateur> WebMaven, installing a card is not hard -- its quite easy really -- most vendors give you a package -- you download -- pop the driver into the src tree and run insmod -- it should be fine and dandy afterwards
[11:35] <Life> apparently i can download files while installing ubuntu
[11:35] <Life> so obviously the network is fine
[11:35] <OkinawaInstructo> MrSprout: if it helps, i am using the current one in ubuntu 6.10 and it works just fine on my computer
[11:35] <jeeves_Moss> timo901:  I'm trying to get it to run, and it's telling me that it can't find the gnome.pm file
[11:36] <MrSprout> current one?
[11:36] <MrSprout> I need a smp kernel
[11:36] <MrSprout> and I'm not sure which one to install
[11:36] <OkinawaInstructo> ok, thats a bit beyond me... i am still new at this
[11:36] <OkinawaInstructo> sorry
[11:36] <MrSprout> Should I be using linux-686-smp?
[11:37] <clintiepoo> I'm back
[11:38] <rocky> Ive installed with ubuntu my first Linux today that works fine
[11:38] <clintiepoo> That didn't work...  It looks like it is going to, then I can't log in.
[11:38] <timo901> yeh
[11:38] <tic11> join #electronics
[11:38] <rocky> but i want the Suse FUll not open Version
[11:39] <Ace2016> bruenig: where are its tabs?
[11:39] <jbroome> Ace2016: wrong place
[11:39] <clintiepoo> any suggestions?  I'm not sure what to do.
[11:39] <jbroome> err, rocky wrong place
[11:39] <Ace2016> wrong place?
[11:39] <bruenig> Ace2016, there aren't any
[11:39] <clintiepoo> the resolution changes for the boot screen, and then will not let me log in.
[11:39] <Ace2016> oh
[11:39] <jbroome> sorry Ace2016, my eyes crossed and was responding to the wrong person
[11:39] <Ace2016> its ok
[11:39] <rocky> i know sry
[11:40] <n2diy> MrSprout: along as it is not a plain pentium system, I running smp. i686 with 333mhz PIIIs.
[11:40] <rocky> that i have broken the terms
[11:40] <rocky> sry
[11:40] <drowner> hello guys
[11:41] <x-r00t-x> can anyone tell me how do i make my terminal so colorful?
[11:41] <Ace2016> hello
[11:41] <clintiepoo> so has anyone had this happen before.  I try to change my screen configuration and it won't let me log in after I do. (not graphically)
[11:41] <x-r00t-x> text
[11:41] <drowner> i'm wondering if anybody could possibly help me? I'm sorry to be such a nuisance.
[11:41] <Ace2016> colourful like that?
[11:42] <Ace2016> i mean like what?
[11:42] <djtansey> i hope someone can help me. how do you use the command line to forward entire local mailboxes to another address?
[11:42] <luca> v
[11:42] <Life> djtansey: ubuntu doesnt control mail
[11:42] <snacks> i blacklisted my netgear wg121 under edgy now i don't know what to do
[11:42] <mnoir> drowner: not unless you ask a question without whining
[11:42] <karakara> yabuntew
[11:43] <clintiepoo> I have tried many different configurations.  They look like they are going to work, but alas and alack they do not.
[11:43] <djtansey> Life: ... i don't know exactly what you mean. you mean this chatroom? i use exim as my mail server.
[11:43] <drowner> ok. I'm having an awful amount of trouble getting my wireless card to work. ndiswrapper, madwifi.... i get nothing. Nothing!
[11:43] <clintiepoo> I have an $800 computer monitor and can only use 1028x788
[11:43] <aa> clintiepoo  8 8 6
[11:43] <snacks> >	i blacklisted my netgear wg121 under edgy now i don't know what to do
[11:44] <karakara> i used ndiswrapper 1.8, worked well
[11:44] <zspada15> clintiepoo, perhaps a sync problem?
[11:44] <drowner> karakara: mines struggling. i have the correct driver installed with ndiswrapper, but nothings happening...
[11:45] <WebMaven> un_operateur: well, I swapped cards around a bit, everything works again.
[11:45] <clintiepoo> I'm not sure what it could be.  I searched last night for the ranges for the Dell 2405FPW, and put these into xorg.conf.  It still does the same thing.
[11:45] <karakara> check dmesg?
[11:45] <WebMaven> un_operateur: thanks for your help.
[11:45] <snacks> i blacklisted my netgear wg121 wireless carunder edgy now i don't know what to do
[11:45] <zspada15> clintiepoo, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:45] <snacks> i blacklisted my netgear wg121 wireless card under edgy now i don't know what to do
[11:46] <karakara> mine showed up in iwconfig as soon as ndiswrapper ate thi win32 driver
[11:46] <clintiepoo> Izspada15:ave done that several times.  I'm just not getting it right.
[11:46] <clintiepoo> I'm not sure what the problem is.  I tried using modelines (I think) too...
[11:47] <zspada15> clintiepoo, make sure you read dells specs to the monitor, and when you configure match the highest spec exactly
[11:47] <MrSprout> When I try to boot the generic kernel from my boot loader my system fails to run xserver and hangs.
[11:47] <MrSprout> any ideas?
[11:47] <rb_laptop> snacks: do a locate blacklist ... any config file showup? what's in it? maybe that is the way to remove that device from the blacklist?
[11:47] <derek_> Hi
[11:47] <zero> j #ubuntu-es
[11:48] <Gosha> hey, someone native english guy here? ( NOT related to ubuntu or linux at all ( but i still need help from one ) )
[11:48] <zspada15> MrSprout, do you have a blinking terminal cursor or just a blank screen?
[11:48] <zspada15> Gosha, sure
[11:48] <derek_> bruenig: Liferea doesn't give any notification
[11:48] <MrSprout> blinking terminal thingy
[11:48] <bruenig> derek_, yes it does
[11:48] <Gosha> zsprada15, heard "the light before us"?
[11:48] <bruenig> derek_, make sure it is running.
[11:48] <Gosha> pada*
[11:48] <zspada15> MrSprout, ok, type gdm
[11:48] <steven> join #network
[11:48] <zspada15> Gosha, i dont think
[11:48] <Gosha> can you recieve it?
[11:49] <zspada15> Gosha, why?
[11:49] <MrSprout> zspada15, that it?
[11:49] <derek_> bruenig: It is running
[11:49] <Life> for a server, which kernel should i use
[11:49] <zspada15> MrSprout, what happened?
[11:49] <bruenig> derek_, you mustn't have gotten any new stories
[11:49] <Life> linux-image-2.6.17-10-server?
[11:49] <zspada15> Life, yes
[11:49] <iKs> Hey :)
[11:49] <derek_> bruenig: hm
[11:49] <MrSprout> an error message came up saying xserver couldnt be started
[11:49] <Gosha> zspada15, since i wanna know what you hear .. since it's hard to know .. and the lyrics page is wierd
[11:49] <zspada15> MrSprout, whats the rest of the error
[11:49] <Life> haha guessed so
[11:49] <MrSprout> then a blinking terminal prompt
[11:49] <derek_> bruenig: give a very active rss link :)
[11:50] <iKs> We need someone to set this bug's importance : https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/76785
[11:50] <MrSprout> would just typing gdm do something?
[11:50] <bruenig> http://rss.cnn.com/rss/cnn_topstories.rss
[11:50] <zspada15> MrSprout, try typing "gdm" and hit return
[11:50] <MrSprout> ok, thanks
[11:50] <MrSprout> and brb
[11:51] <Gosha> right after "dont wake me up without a master plan"
[11:51] <steven> I would like to set up a firewall with a dchp server for the local network, how can I configure my primary (wan) interface so that he uses the dhcp server from my isp?
[11:51] <Lam_> when i run $shutdown -h or $shutdown -P, it doesn't completely power down my system. i can hear the hard drive spin down but the fans are still going
[11:51] <zspada15> Lam_, try sudo shutdown -h now
[11:52] <snacks> rb_laptop, i did a locate blacklist, and 4 config files show up that contain blacklist
[11:52] <liberion> hey guys is there a package for FretsonFire yet?
[11:52] <Lam_> zspada15: already tried that
[11:52] <rb_laptop> snacks: try looking in this one ... /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[11:52] <Gosha> Lam_ use the scissor, but the chord :D
[11:52] <Gosha> cut*
[11:52] <zspada15> Lam_, if all else fails, rember raising skinny elephants is utterly boring :P
[11:53] <SpacePuppy> Lam_: when you get bored of raising skinny elephants, you may want to look at the power setting in the BIOS
[11:53] <derek_> bruenig: does liferea understand opml file?
[11:53] <snacks> rb_laptop i added islsm, islsm_usb, islsm_device, ieee80211softmac, ieee80211, ieee80211_crypt to the blacklist
[11:53] <Life> okay pinging out to other servers work
[11:53] <bruenig> derek_, not sure, I don't use rss feeds, except web based ones like google home page
[11:54] <cmweb> Any one use keep? I am having problems making a folder for the backup
[11:55] <MrSprout> Whoever it was helping me before, typing gdm didn't do anything.
[11:55] <cmweb> I think this room went dead
[11:56] <Stone321> MrSprout whats the problem
[11:56] <MrSprout> Ok
[11:56] <Zaggynl> I'm trying to get xcdroast to burn dvd's I ran the setup, I installed DVD+-RW/R tools, but xcdroast still doesn't show me any dvd burning options
[11:56] <MrSprout> I have a core 2 duo processor.
[11:56] <cmweb> ok i was wrong
[11:56] <MrSprout> and I'm running a non SMP kernel
[11:56] <MrSprout> so I cant use both cores.
[11:56] <MrSprout> I'm trying to find out which kernel I should be running
[11:56] <MrSprout> to use both cores.
[11:56] <MrSprout> and then trying to set that up successfully.
[11:56] <Stone321> !smp
[11:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:57] <Zaggynl> !prodvd
[11:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about prodvd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:57] <n2diy> MrSprout:  I told you to get one through synaptic, did you try that?
[11:57] <Stone321> MrSprout its 686 kernel now i think  search linux-686
[11:57] <Nontitle> gdm doesn't do anything... sudo /etc/init.d/gdm [start|stop|restart]  will do something
[11:57] <MrSprout> n2diy, yes.
[11:57] <MrSprout> I installed one called linux-686-smp
[11:57] <MrSprout> but It's not booting it
[11:57] <magic_ninja> my mouse is going on and off and its effecting everything i do, i use 6.10
[11:57] <n2diy> MrSprout: and what happened?
[11:57] <MrSprout> and i'm not sure how do make it do so
[11:57] <Life> hi, for some reason i can make connections to other servers, however i can not make connections to my server
[11:58] <MrSprout> I'm booting a 386 kernel right now.
[11:58] <n2diy> MrSprout: did you reboot?
[11:58] <MrSprout> Yes.
[11:58] <Stone321> MrSprout : sudo update-grub
[11:58] <snacks> rb_laptop, any other ideas
[11:58] <MrSprout> done stone321
[11:58] <Stone321> it should be on aout , anyway whats in /boot MrSprout
[11:58] <MrSprout> ??
[11:59] <MrSprout> I'm new to all this.. I dont understand.
[11:59] <rb_laptop> snacks: those devices aren't in that config file?
[11:59] <cmweb> Any one use keep? I am having problems making a folder for the backup
[11:59] <n2diy> MrSprout: you still need to re-boot.
[11:59] <Stone321> and you mgight paste on bastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst  MrSprout
[11:59] <snacks> rb_laptop, which devices
[11:59] <MrSprout> n2diy, I've rebooted so many times
[11:59] <rb_laptop> the ones u blacklisted
[11:59] <clintiepoo> ok, I'm back
[11:59] <MrSprout> and it loads the same kernel.
[11:59] <clintiepoo> still problems
[11:59] <magic_ninja> my mouse is going on and off and its effecting everything i do, i use 6.10
[11:59] <MrSprout> the 686 one doesn't even appear on the list of kernels
[11:59] <clintiepoo> I use vesa as my audio card type
[12:00] <MrSprout> only the 386 and the generic linux kernel
[12:00] <derek_> bruenig: It is getting new feeds but not giving any popup notifications
[12:00] <dibblego> when I create links on my GNOME panel, where are the settings saved on the disk? I thought it would be somewhere in ~ but it does not seem to be the case?
[12:00] <MrSprout> the generic one wont load because xserver fails to start.
[12:00] <derek_> bruenig: did you add something to the panel for it?
[12:00] <Stone321> !pastebin | MrSprout
[12:00] <ubotu> MrSprout: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:00] <clintiepoo> I reconfigure, using 30-81 khz as horiz sync and 60-60 khz as vertical (some modes are only available at 60 hz).  It still does not let me log back in to ubuntu with x.
[12:00] <Stone321> MrSprout paste : ls -la /boot
[12:00] <Nontitle> i just installed grub-splashimages and did a sudo grub-update, it says none found
[12:01] <clintiepoo> I'm stuck