=== DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp254-206.lns3.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === sindrum [n=sindrum@cpe-24-58-243-175.twcny.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-bugs ["Good] === Admiral_Chicago [i=FreddyMa@adsl-69-209-71-139.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [12:41] New bug: #76931 in Ubuntu "Can't do a console login" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76931 === giskard [n=giskard@213-140-22-74.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === geser [n=michael@dialin107186.justdsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [01:26] New bug: #76935 in ubiquity (main) "Ubiquity installer crash while installing from an already installed edgy." [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76935 === marnanel [n=marnanel@66.92.237.111] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [01:47] New bug: #76936 in nautilus (main) "[Feisty] Fails to display some mounted local partitions" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76936 === cormil [n=cormil@d83-184-110-247.cust.tele2.it] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [01:56] New bug: #76939 in Ubuntu "Cannot change brightness on Toshiba Satellite M45-S331" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76939 === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === rpedro__ [n=rpedro@87-196-104-152.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === eigenlambda [n=daesotho@216-15-119-166.c3-0.nwt-ubr2.sbo-nwt.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [02:31] lol [02:32] hug day = two days ago [02:36] eigenlambda: triage some bugs anyway! [02:36] lol [02:36] ya [02:37] is there a list of bugs that havn't been triaged? === eigenlambda hugs Hobbsee === Hobbsee hugs eigenlambda [02:40] eigenlambda: yes [02:40] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=Unconfirmed&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.owner=&field.component-empty-marker=1&field.status_upstream=&field.status_upstream-empty-marker=1&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch.used=&field.tag=&field.has_no_package.used=&field.has_no_package=on [02:40] lol [02:40] nice link [02:41] yeah [02:44] ok, I can confirm #76905 [02:45] how do I change its status to 'confirmed'? [02:47] eigenlambda: click on "felt (Ubuntu)" under Affects and you will get addtional options [02:48] ok === xerxas [n=r67894@mut38-5-82-246-190-19.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === zul [n=bob@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === r0bby [n=wakawaka@guifications/user/r0bby] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Jucato [n=jucato@124.106.183.230] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === rrittenhouse [n=tad@cpe-76-188-35-66.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [03:35] New bug: #76944 in yelp (main) "Improve yelp index layout" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76944 [03:40] New bug: #76946 in Ubuntu "beryl crash when i execute the comand $beryl-manager-d" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76946 [03:45] New bug: #76947 in evolution (main) "evolution crashes when I right click on an appointment" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76947 [03:50] New bug: #76948 in supertux (universe) "Please backport supertux to edgy." 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joined #ubuntu-bugs === TheMuso_ is now known as TheMuso === rpedro [n=rpedro@87-196-104-152.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === rpedro [n=rpedro@87-196-104-152.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === dthacke1 [n=dthacker@ip68-107-233-209.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [06:57] Would an experienced member please look at #50021 with me? === dthacke1 [n=dthacker@ip68-107-233-209.om.om.cox.net] has left #ubuntu-bugs [] === dthacker [n=dthacker@ip68-107-233-209.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [07:04] !50021 [07:04] Sorry, I don't know anything about 50021 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi === sfllaw [i=sfllaw@debian/developer/coleSLAW] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === dthacker must sleep. === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp254-206.lns3.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Jucato [n=jucato@58.69.26.232] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === dlainhart [n=dylan@cpe-66-24-238-139.stny.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Jucato [n=jucato@58.69.26.232] 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Chillin? === Admiral_Chicago [i=FreddyMa@adsl-68-255-99-43.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp6-179.lns1.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Jucato [n=jucato@58.69.26.232] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === thekorn [n=markus@a89-182-5-40.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [10:10] New bug: #76959 in gaphor (universe) "Gaphor has broken dependencies" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76959 === TomaszD [n=tom@unaffiliated/tomaszd] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [10:30] New bug: #76960 in mono (main) "Mono crashed when closing Firefox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76960 === lbm [n=lbm@82.192.173.92] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === mr_pouit [n=silk@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-214-84.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === mostblind [n=ubuntu@71.80-203-34.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === giskard_ [n=giskard@62-101-126-218.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === ivoks [n=ivoks@32-130.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Yawner [n=alex@82-44-193-109.cable.ubr07.haye.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Jucato [n=jucato@58.69.26.232] has left #ubuntu-bugs ["http://jucato.org/"] === Czubek [n=Damian@82.160.179.20] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Yawner [n=alex@82-44-193-109.cable.ubr07.haye.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [11:55] New bug: #76965 in desktop-effects (universe) "Keyboard Shortcuts do not work with Compiz" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76965 === giskard_ is now known as giskard [12:10] New bug: #76966 in ekiga (main) "Ekiga crash on exit (6.10)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76966 [12:10] New bug: #76967 in openafs (universe) "OpenAFS kernel modules don't build with Feisty kernel 2.6.20" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76967 === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [12:20] New bug: #76968 in gnome-vfs2 (main) "libgnomevfs made Ekiga crash on exit (6.10)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76968 === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Yawner [n=alex@82-44-193-109.cable.ubr07.haye.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [12:35] New bug: #76969 in kdegraphics (main) "kdvi Recommends should be adjusted" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76969 === geser [n=michael@dialin108173.justdsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [12:45] New bug: #76970 in amaya (universe) "amaya crashes on open... not open" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76970 [12:45] New bug: #76971 in amaya (universe) "amaya crashes on open... not open" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76971 [12:46] New bug: #76972 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "via82cxxx is missing in Feisty kernel." [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76972 [01:02] New bug: #76974 in libjcalendar-java (multiverse) "drags in obsolete j2re1.4" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76974 === jwendell [n=wendell@ubuntu/member/wendell] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [01:20] New bug: #76976 in Ubuntu "partition error install 7.04" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76976 === ubuntu_demon [n=ubuntu_d@ubuntu/member/ubuntudemon/-x-12083] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [01:25] New bug: #76978 in xorg (main) "Nvidia FX5500 use vesa instead of nv (Feisty Herd1)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76978 [01:35] New bug: #76979 in Ubuntu "Faisty Freeze on splash screen after update" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76979 [01:45] New bug: #76981 in shadow (main) "default path is insecure" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76981 [01:45] New bug: #76982 in gnome-power "Can't open g-p-m help" [Unknown,Unknown] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76982 [01:46] New bug: #76980 in gnome-power "Can't open brightness applet help" [Unknown,Unknown] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76980 === pirast [n=martin@p508B0D82.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [02:00] New bug: #76983 in gnupg (main) "Doesn't create settings correctly on first start" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76983 === dthacker [n=dthacker@ip68-107-233-209.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === coNP [n=conp@pool-02f60.externet.hu] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Yawner [n=alex@82-44-193-109.cable.ubr07.haye.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [02:20] New bug: #76985 in amarok (main) "amarok collection with mysql not working properly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76985 === Yawner [n=alex@82-44-193-109.cable.ubr07.haye.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === DarkMageZ_ [n=richard@ppp15-236.lns2.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === DarkMageZ_ is now known as DarkMageZ [02:26] New bug: #76986 in eboard (universe) ""help -> about" causes a segfault" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76986 === pradeep [n=pradeep@59.92.78.103] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === coyctecm [n=niko@a84-231-77-150.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === okaratas [n=okaratas@fedora/ozgur] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === cypher1 [n=cypher1@59.92.181.136] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === mr_pouit [n=silk@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-214-84.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === zul [n=bob@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@R77a6.r.ppp-pool.de] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [03:06] Hi, top shows one of my processes is using 2.6G of VIRT mem. The funny thing is, the machine has only 640M of RAM and about 750M of swap. What package can I report this for? [03:07] dpkg -S `which top` says top belongs to procps but I am not quite sure this is the right one. [03:11] what process does it say? === daniel_hoover [n=daniel@74-134-62-25.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === daniel_hoover [n=daniel@74-134-62-25.dhcp.insightbb.com] has left #ubuntu-bugs [] [03:13] Hobbsee: I felt like procps was not so bad after all: bug 76990 [03:13] Malone bug 76990 in procps "top shows one process using more memory than there is available" [Low,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76990 [03:13] ah [03:17] hey Laibsch and Hobbsee [03:17] hey highvoltage [03:17] how's the bugs doing today :) === ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121e25.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === pascal80 [n=pascal@86-39-14-218.customer.fulladsl.be] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [03:47] Would an experienced bug squad member look at 50021 with me? This person has provided the solution to his problem. Is this enough to call it confirmed? [03:49] and since it involves his specific hardware config, shouldn't he request that his config be added to HAL somehow? [03:51] #50021 === DarkMageZ slaps ubugtu [03:51] bug #50021 [03:52] Malone bug 50021 in hal "Does not recocnize standby capability" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/50021 [03:52] bug 50021 [03:56] dthacker, i'd ask them if it still requires manual adjustment in edgy or feisty. they opened it just after dapper launched. [03:57] DarkMageZ: will do. tnx for looking with me. === rrittenhouse [n=tad@cpe-76-188-35-66.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === ubuntu_demon [n=ubuntu_d@ubuntu/member/ubuntudemon/-x-12083] has left #ubuntu-bugs [] === Dinxter [n=niall@82-41-236-160.cable.ubr12.edin.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [04:15] How do I tag a release with a bug ? === zul [n=bob@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === giskard [n=giskard@213-140-22-74.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === mostblind [n=ubuntu@71.80-203-34.nextgentel.com] has left #ubuntu-bugs [] === mr_pouit [n=silk@81.56.214.84] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Admiral_Chicago [i=FreddyMa@adsl-68-255-99-43.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === coyctecm [n=niko@a84-231-77-150.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [05:09] it today hug day? === zul [n=bob@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [05:21] well if it is... /me hugs room === rulus [n=roel@128.21-244-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === awbassett [n=awbasset@206.135.97.35] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === awbassett [n=awbasset@206.135.97.35] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Adri2000 [n=Adri2000@unaffiliated/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [06:25] New bug: #76996 in amule (universe) "better icon for amule" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76996 [06:30] New bug: #76997 in graveman (universe) "graveman crashes after finishing burning an iso(CD in general?)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/76997 === joumetal [n=joumetal@laku34.adsl.netsonic.fi] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === stgraber [i=stgraber@server.lan.stgraber.org] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === xerxas [n=r67894@mut38-5-82-246-190-19.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === fabbione [i=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Dinxter [n=niall@82-41-236-160.cable.ubr12.edin.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #ubuntu-bugs ["jumps] === dou213 [n=x@e180235071.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@R77a6.r.ppp-pool.de] has left #ubuntu-bugs [] === neutrinomass [n=pandis@ppp128-80.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === TomaszD [n=tom@unaffiliated/tomaszd] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [07:50] New bug: #77005 in mplayer-blue (universe) "Please move to multiverse" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/77005 [07:55] New bug: #77006 in Ubuntu "Swap mounted at /proc/bus/usb" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/77006 [08:00] New bug: #77007 in tkdvi (universe) "Unmet deps [feisty] " [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/77007 [08:05] New bug: #77008 in openoffice.org (main) "[Feisty] Unable to update openoffice.org" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/77008 === sfllaw [i=sfllaw@debian/developer/coleSLAW] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === matid [n=matid@ubuntu/member/matid] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [08:25] New bug: #77009 in venkman (universe) "failed deps on iceweasel | iceape-browser | icedove" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/77009 === Adri2000 [n=Adri2000@unaffiliated/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [08:30] New bug: #77010 in Ubuntu "Overuse of system beep without volume control" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/77010 === martin_ [n=martin@p508B0D82.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === michael7410 [n=michael@3.67-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === mr_pouit [n=silk@81.56.214.84] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === blue-frog [n=bluefrog@dyn-88-121-127-11.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [09:32] New bug: #69354 in sox (universe) ".nul psuedo file format not working as man page says (core dumps)" [Undecided,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/69354 === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [09:40] New bug: #77018 in gnome-games (main) "[Feisty] gnome-sudoku not playable at 800x600 resolution" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/77018 [09:50] New bug: #77019 in ubiquity (main) "Kubuntu 6.06.1 Installer crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/77019 [09:52] Is that normal that bug 77005 was rejected ? [09:52] Malone bug 77005 in mplayer-blue "Please move to multiverse" [Undecided,Rejected] http://launchpad.net/bugs/77005 [09:58] stgraber: I don't belive it should be moved to multiverse even if it depends on things from there to install. [09:59] .. not sure though. [09:59] fdoving: Do you think so? If you have multiverse disabled it would seem broken to the user... [09:59] At least that's how I would feel [09:59] he wouldn't be able to install it. [09:59] it wouldn't break anything. [10:00] For me the application telling me "Can't install package, something is missing" seems like an error, and that's most likely how an average user would feel [10:01] Unfortunately, Synaptic or apt won't say - the package you're looking for is in multiverse respository due to legal issues. Please enable multiverse repository and try again. [10:01] Even though I agree it should be moved to multiverse I also agree that rejecting the bug was a completely valid procedure [10:02] And our disagreement here proves it [10:02] I think if a package in main or universe depends on another that's in multiverse, it should be moved to multiverse [10:03] because that's a nonsense to have it in anything else than multiverse (as it can't be installed if multiverse isn't activated) [10:03] stgraber: I agree with you, though the procedure of changing such a thing usually require more discussion on the mailing list/forum [10:05] if we look over to debian, it's sections are named 'non-free' and so on.. even if a package depends on something from non-free, it's not in 'non-free' because it's free. [10:05] On the other hand, the bug was reported by a person from Ubuntu QA Team, and though I'm on the team too I believe that Vassilis has his reason for reporting it === mr_pouit [n=silk@81.56.214.84] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [10:09] http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - moving stuff to multiverse because it depends on something from multiverse is wrong. because it's all about licensing, not depends. [10:09] are you sure that this decision hasn't been made yet? [10:10] I mean all packages that have multiverse dependencies to multiverse (or not doing this) [10:10] i don't know. === daniel_hoover [n=daniel@74-134-62-25.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === daniel_hoover [n=daniel@74-134-62-25.dhcp.insightbb.com] has left #ubuntu-bugs [] [10:15] New bug: #77020 in Ubuntu "Battery goes dead in half the time it takes OS X." [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/77020 [10:17] Argument for moving the package to mutliverse: https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/nedit/+bug/76571 [10:17] Malone bug 76571 in nedit "nedit needs to be moved to multiverse" [Undecided,Fix released] === rrittenhouse [n=tad@cpe-76-188-35-66.neo.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-bugs ["Leaving"] === rrittenhouse [n=tad@cpe-76-188-35-66.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [10:20] matid: build depend != depend [10:20] fdoving: sure, but I think depend is even stronger that build depend [10:21] than* [10:24] coNP: You'll most likely be better off asking on #ubuntu-motu [10:25] coNP: i don't agree, because it's about licensing. you can get mplayer from somewhere else if you want to. the skin doesn't belong in muliverse because it's license is universe compatible. we don't want to put alot of stuff in multiverse, that doesn't belong there.. really. === mr_pouit [n=silk@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-214-84.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === coyctecm [n=niko@a84-231-77-150.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [10:31] fdoving, matid. Thanks, both of you. I tend to write too early. :( / :) [10:40] New bug: #77021 in alsa-driver (main) "No option for +20db mic boost on NForce430 " [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/77021 === coNP [n=conp@pool-02f60.externet.hu] has left #ubuntu-bugs ["c-x] === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === Yawner [n=alex@82-44-193-109.cable.ubr07.haye.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === tokj [n=tokj@151.82.11.215] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === giskard [n=giskard@213-140-22-74.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === tokj [n=tokj@151.82.11.215] has left #ubuntu-bugs ["Leaving"] === pascal80 [n=pascal@86-39-14-218.customer.fulladsl.be] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === pascal80 [n=pascal@86-39-14-218.customer.fulladsl.be] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === pascal80 [n=pascal@86-39-14-218.customer.fulladsl.be] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === pascal80 [n=pascal@86-39-14-218.customer.fulladsl.be] has joined #ubuntu-bugs === coyctecm [n=niko@a84-231-77-150.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-bugs [12:00] New bug: #77024 in alsa-driver (main) "No sound with nVidia HDA + RealTek ALC833" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/77024