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[01:35] <T`> hi.. anoyne knows where i can find documntation on how the acpi_fakekey / dev/input/event0  works?
[01:35] <T`> i'm trying to tweak the rate at which the volume changes when i press the up/down bottoms on my laptop, but so far i have found /dev/input/event0 is being used by haldaemon and not sure how the actual vol set process works
[01:36] <mdke> T`: which desktop?
[01:36] <T`> xfce
[01:36] <mdke> ah, no idea
[01:36] <T`> is that what you meant to ask?
[01:36] <T`> mdke, but how does it work usually?
[01:37] <T`> im assuming the buttons cause an acpi event which is hooked thru event.d/ and somehow runs the volupbtm.sh in /etc/acpi
[01:37] <T`> then it sends a acpi_fakekey with the appropriate keycode.. 
[01:37] <T`> what happens next?
[01:37] <mdke> I know that in gnome it's controlled by a gnome-wide application, that's about it. and I know that sladen knows a fair bit about it
[01:37] <T`> whats the app called in gnome?
[01:38] <T`> sladen, ping?
[01:39] <mjg59> In gnome, it's handled by gnome-settings-daemon
[01:39] <T`> hmm ok.. so it must be listening to the /dev/input/event0
[01:40] <T`> do you guys see anything for lsof  | grep event0 which says it does?
[01:43] <mjg59> No
[01:43] <mjg59> It gets the event fro X
[01:43] <mjg59> All keyboard events also get sent to /dev/console, which the X server picks up
[01:47] <T`> aha
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[01:47] <T`> so xfce must be handling these events
[01:48] <mjg59> Yup
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[11:20] <iwkse> hi all. Where i should look for when i want to suppress application window's border?
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[11:34] <okaratas> today is my birthday...
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[11:54] <okaratas> is Ubuntu supporting VLAN;is there any documentation for that; is there anything to do in kernel for this?
[11:56] <mjr> vlans are supported by default kernels, the vlan package contains userspace tools for their use
[11:57] <cjwatson> iwkse: start with http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/gtk/GtkWindow.html#gtk-window-set-decorated perhaps
[11:57] <iwkse> cjwatson: thanks
[11:57] <okaratas> mjr, thanks, i see link
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[11:57] <iwkse> Anybody has this book Gtk+ Programming in C written by Syd Logan?
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[01:25] <pygi> hello everyone
[01:25] <pygi> merry christmas to everyone
[01:25] <Hobbsee> hey pygi!
[01:25] <pygi> I wish you all the best 
[01:26] <pygi> hello Hobbsee 
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[03:26] <jita> my system freezes upon reboot/shutdown. if i disable dri in xorg.conf, then it works fine
[03:28] <jita> its similar to https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/67487
[03:28] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 67487 in xserver-xorg-driver-ati "[regression] [rv280]  black screen and console freeze when X starts - drm lockup" [Unknown,Confirmed]  
[03:28] <jita> but it happens at reboot time
[03:28] <jita> not start up
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[03:50] <zyga> hey guys
[03:50] <zyga> has anyone seen mvo latelty?
[04:02] <fdoving> zyga: vacation, i've heard.
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[05:00] <zyga> fdoving: ooh, good for him then :-)
[05:00] <zyga> is it past the 7.04 freeze yet?
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[05:07] <MagnusR> zyga: According to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule?highlight=%28feisty%29 we have past debianimportfreeze but not featurefreeze.
[05:10] <MagnusR> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5159636580663884360&q=google+engEDU+python&hl=en Klart intressant fredrag.
[05:13] <zyga> MagnusR: is it still possible to sync stuff for ubuntu from upstream (trivial minor changes)
[05:13] <zyga> I'm talking abount command-not-found explicitly
[05:14] <MagnusR> zyga: I am not totally sure but I think so.
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[06:42] <jdong> pitti: ping (you're the one who wrote the GNOME umount progress dialog back in the good ol' days, right?)
[06:43] <jdong> we're missing a dialog for umounting from the left-hand nautilus pane... it just silently unmounts for that case
[06:44] <jdong> ok, I'll file a bug instead... gnome-vfs I assume?
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[07:00] <pitti> jdong: rather nautilus, I figure; please assign it to me right away, so that I'll notice
[07:01] <coyctecm> anybody knows about those david turner freetype patchies..?  some patent issues?
[07:02] <jdong> pitti: ok, I'll file it soon and subscribe you; thanks
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[07:21] <Amaranth> coyctecm: Yeah, microsoft cleartype patents
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[07:28] <coyctecm> Amaranth: that sad really :/ Those patches make really difference
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[07:30] <Amaranth> I used to think so
[07:33] <coyctecm> actually, today I tryed those patches, but I only used them about few hours...
[07:33] <coyctecm> they are nice looking and so on, but not for my eyes
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[07:56] <alex-weej> holy shit
[07:57] <alex-weej> help.ubuntu.com describes /usr as stuff for "USeRs" :E
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[07:57] <alex-weej> https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/directories-file-systems.html
[07:59] <_ion> Haha.
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[08:01] <neutrinomass> There are a few universe packages that depend on  iceweasel | iceape-browser | icedove . Are these going to be synced to universe ?
[08:05] <neutrinomass> And regardless of that, to avoid having users install 2 firefoxes, should a "| firefox" be added ?
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[08:18] <zyga> is there any movement to package the now-gpl'd java again?
[08:19] <zyga> (so there is a difference between jdk/jre and the 100%-gpl java?
[08:20] <neutrinomass> I opened the above issue as bug 77009
[08:20] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 77009 in venkman "failed deps on iceweasel | iceape-browser | icedove" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/77009
[08:23] <geser> neutrinomass: set bug #77007 to "Fix Released" once it hits the archive
[08:23] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 77007 in tkdvi "Unmet deps [feisty] " [Medium,Fix committed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/77007
[08:23] <neutrinomass> geser: Cool thanks :-)
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[10:26] <siretart> tsmithe: advocated
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[10:28] <tsmithe> thanks siretart
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[11:22] <tsmithe> in feisty universe, the compiz packages are from fd.o right?
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[12:05] <smithj> is there a way to get commit mail for the sources for packages?
[12:08] <cjwatson> not in a unified way
[12:09] <cjwatson> diffs of uploads are mailed to packages.qa.debian.org, and I believe you can subscribe to them there
[12:09] <cjwatson> individual projects may have commit lists
[12:09] <smithj> does, for example, breezy-changes mail actual diffs or just that something was changed?
[12:09] <cjwatson> uploads may be too coarse a granularity for you
[12:09] <cjwatson> the former
[12:10] <cjwatson> er
[12:10] <cjwatson> the latter, sorry
[12:10] <cjwatson> as you can see in the archives ...
[12:10] <cjwatson> oh, hang on, Scott did actually set something up
[12:11] <cjwatson> smithj: see the ubuntu-patches list
[12:11] <cjwatson> you can't subscribe to an individual package as far as I know, but you can get the lot and procmail it. Sorry I'd forgotten about that earlier
[12:12] <smithj> cjwatson: no, thats perfect :)