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Nontitleis there something i'm missing?12:01
fuocohow can i backport/install a kernel from feisty for example in my edgy system?12:01
Stone321MrSprout paste : /boot/grub/menu.lst there too12:01
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n2diyMrsprout, didn't give you the chance to select which kernel to load?12:01
cmwebok this is weird (i guess) im talking in 3 rooms and no one will give me an answer12:01
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MrSproutn2diy12:01
MrSproutit did12:01
MrSproutbut the 686 one wasn't there12:01
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liberionhey guys ive built a universal installer for FretsOnFire .itll install on any linux system heres the linux http://download.zenwalk.org/people/jcoghill/FretsOnFire-universal-install.sh12:01
Nontitlecmweb: what are you asking?12:01
MrSproutand I could only load the 386, the generic linux one failed to load.12:01
n2diyMrSprout: , and the smp kernel wasn't there?12:01
cmwebAny one use keep? I am having problems making a folder for the backup12:01
bruenigderek_, it runs in the tray. It must always be running for it to work12:01
MrSproutnope12:01
linopilwhat is the meta package to install complete  kde ?12:01
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linopil!kde12:02
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE12:02
apokryphoslinopil: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic12:02
clintiepooso, does anyone know about the dell 2405fpw on an ATI radeon card?12:02
justin420cmweb: join the club, I was forced to reinstall windows as nobody would help me with a problem after an apt-get update; apt-get upgrade. good luck :)12:02
Lifehi, for some reason i can make connections to other servers, however i can not make connections to my server12:02
n2diyMrSprout: how long did it take you download and install the kernel?12:02
magic_ninjaman this mouse prob isr eally annoying12:02
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magic_ninjaif i just changed the usb port the mouse is in should it help?12:02
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MrSproutn2diy, not long at all12:03
avalon!pastebin12:03
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)12:03
MrSprout20 seconds maybe.12:03
Nontitlei don't use keep12:03
linopilkubuntu-desktop is fine12:03
cmwebwell if i can get this backup to work i can keep my system in good order12:03
magic_ninjahmm12:03
magic_ninjalets see if it works on a different port12:03
n2diyMrSprout:  I don't think you have it then. Did you tell synaptic to mark it for install, and then click on apply?12:03
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MrSproutYes, I can reinstall if it needs be12:04
linopilbut first repos12:04
linopil!repos12:04
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource12:04
avalonhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38421/ Can someone tell me what I can do to fix my xorg.conf?12:04
linopil!easysource12:04
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic.  It does not currently support Edgy sources.  When asked if it will, the reply was "maybe".12:04
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MrSproutn2diy... Again it took very little time.12:05
linopileasysource not for edgy yet right ??12:05
n2diyCould MrSprout''s trouble be dual cores aren't supported?12:05
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n2diyMrSprout:  are you on a high speed connection?12:05
MrSprout2mbit12:05
MrSprout256kbit up12:06
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FirstStrikeman, they jipped you on upload12:06
linopilBearPerson: ?12:06
MrSproutADSL12:06
MrSproutI live in the middle of nowhere.12:06
MrSproutIt's all I can get.12:06
FirstStrike5 mbit/640k here and even that's slow. should be at least 1 mbit =\12:06
n2diyMrSprout: ok, and synaptic told you it installed the smp kernel?12:06
BearPersonlinopil, turned something on again, wanted to safeguard against a sudden flood12:06
MrSproutn2diy, yes.12:06
linopilBearPerson: pls what was +r -r?12:06
avalonI got 5mbt here12:06
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n2diyMrSprout: well reboot, and see if it shows?12:07
MrSproutI have12:07
MrSproutabout 10 times.12:07
MrSproutheh12:07
linopilmeaning possible safeguard from flooding from me ?12:07
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n2diyMrSprout: I'm puzzled.12:08
BearPersonlinopil, no, from bots12:08
linopiltyvm12:08
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n2diyMrSprout: what does cat /proc/cpuinfo tell you now?12:08
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garrettkajmowiczI'm using Ubuntu 6.10 and just purchased a digital camera.  Apparently I need libgphoto 2.3.0 to be able to connect to the camera.  This is not part of Ubuntu or backports at the moment.  Does anybody have any straigh-forward suggestions on how to get the new library version without screwing up my system?12:09
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MrSprout!pastebin12:09
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)12:09
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MrSproutn2diy, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38425/12:09
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n2diyMrSprout: ok, never used pastbin before, but I'll give it a try.12:10
MrSproutthat's just what it gave me..12:10
MrSproutthe cat /proc/cpuinfo thing12:10
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LaserLineHow do I open a port on Ubuntu?12:11
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Kingsqueakport for what?12:11
LaserLinea new service... we want to use port 911112:11
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Kingsqueakjust start your application12:12
dibblegoyou open it on your router12:12
n2diyMrSprout: yep, only one core is seen.12:12
LaserLinedibblego: we're not going through the router12:12
magic_ninjamy mouse is going on and off and its effecting everything i do, i use 6.10, microsoft IExplorer (older version) and I have changed USB ports so i'm sure is an OS issue12:12
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Kingsqueakapplications open ports, that's it12:12
snacksfor ndiswrapper, when i do 'ndiswrapper -v' under 'utils-version:' it says 'no specified version'12:12
dibblegoLaserLine, then just start the application - it opens the port12:12
n2diyMrSprout: my set up here is with dual CPUs, not cores, and it works for me.12:12
KingsqueakUbuntu doesn't enable a firewall by default so when the app starts, it's open12:13
LaserLinedibblego: what if it's an application that we're coding12:13
bruenig!iptables12:13
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).12:13
dibblegoLaserLine, run it12:13
chalcedonydoes anyone use xsane image scanner? My son usually sets it, he's out of town. I need it to scan a document and let me save it with a filename. help?12:13
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dibblegoLaserLine, whatever language you're using allows you to open a listening TCP port12:13
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rb_laptopchalcedony: try the gimp and i think u can acquire or import from the scanner there12:14
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DFMCan someone point me to the website that will help me determine what wifi cards will work with ubuntu? I have been there before but can't seem to find it again.12:14
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clintiepooI have tried everything I know to make my monitor work.  It still doesn't.  Does anyone have any suggestions, please?12:14
SilentDis'lo :)12:14
Lifehi, i've done a traceroute on two servers (1 that works and 1 doesnt) the one that works makes it to a reverse, the one that doesn't work doesn't make it past the router12:14
Lifeany help?12:14
chalcedonyrb_laptop: i'd love to get gimp to work for me, but what he's got set up with the printer is xsane.12:15
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avalonWell here comes another restart, wish me luck :)12:15
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Kingsqueakchalcedony: start it up, put the picture in the scanner and click the button, I think it is 'acquire image' something like that12:15
rogue780is this channel logged?12:15
SilentDisLife:  just these 2 servers you're having issue with?12:15
rb_laptopchalcedony: have u tried through the gimp?12:15
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timo901were can i find the latest beryl download http://www.beryl-project.org/roadmap.php seems no good12:15
Kingsqueakchalcedony: once it finishes, save the file12:15
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cmwebgaa its in here12:15
cmweb@part12:15
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Lifesilentdis: just 2 servers with issue, 1 is working properly12:16
SilentDistimo901:  I pulled from their repos, from what I understand, that's their latest stable build.12:16
cmwebsorry12:16
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Kingsqueakchalcedony: http://www.xsane.org/doc/sane-xsane-doc.html12:16
clintiepooWhen I edit my display settings, it will not let me log back into ubuntu.  If I log in as text, startx fails.12:16
chalcedonyKingsqueak: ty :)12:16
SilentDistimo901:  you might try the #beryl room if you're looking for something later than what's on the repos.12:16
SilentDisLife:  I'd say that that server has the issue.  either the route to it is rejecting the ping requests (very possible), or the route to host is disallowing it (some router is configured to do so), or the server is down.12:17
timo901thank you12:17
MrSproutn2diy12:17
MrSproutpm12:17
Lifesilentdis: im on the server atm, server is not down12:18
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n2diyMrSprout: what is pm?12:18
MrSproutprivate message...12:18
Lifesilentdis: i can not connect via shell though, only through KVM over IP12:18
SilentDisLife:  you're trying to ping your outside cloud IP and it's bouncing?12:18
n2diyI've never done that either, go for it.12:18
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MrSproutDoes this server not allow private messages or something?12:19
Lifesilentdis: what do you mean?12:19
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cafuego_MrSprout: it does, but by default only by users that have registered with nickserv12:20
SilentDisLife:  if you're sitting AT the server, and you try pinging 127.0.0.1, it should always work.  That's the internal IP.  Then, depending on how you have that server configed, you can have it set to deny ping requests on it's public IP.12:20
SilentDisMrSprout:  you have to register with nickserv to use private messages.12:20
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Lifesilentdis: ping is working fine12:21
Lifesilentdis: ping is working for 127.0.0.1 and any other servers that are online12:21
SilentDisLife:  ok, then i'm misunderstanding the problem lol12:21
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Lifesilentdis: it works for any server, apt-get works, just that i can't connect to my own server12:22
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fiendskull9hey12:22
SilentDisLife:  ok, from external box > server doesn't work?12:22
Lifesilentdis: yes12:22
Nontitlefirewall, maybe?12:22
Lifesilentdis: in fact, it cant even ping its own IP12:22
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fiendskull9i found an old (i think hauppage) tv card. its chipset is Bt848KPF. If i just pop it in and reboot, and follow one of the guides on the net, should it work?12:23
Lifenontitle: there is no firewall installed12:23
fiendskull9or is there some oddball kernel modules i need to install12:23
cafuego_fiendskull9: pretty much12:23
cafuego_fiendskull9: the 848 should be fine (in theory)12:23
SilentDisLife:  just trying to tack down the network schema in my head here is all.  it goes Computer > router > Teh Interweb > router > server.  is that correct, or am I mucking it up.12:23
fiendskull9alright man12:23
fiendskull9thanks12:23
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n2diyfiendskull9: Find the guide first, you maynot be able to surf the net with the new card.12:23
Lifesilentdis: i am working onver KVM over IP and command prompt12:24
Lifei don't have a desktop12:24
fiendskull9n2diy: why?12:24
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fuocohow can i backport/install a kernel from feisty for example in my edgy system?12:24
n2diyBecause xorg.conf might not be configured for it.12:24
SilentDisfiendskull9:  the Hauppauge cards are VERY well supported.  the older ones expecially so.  I'd do a bit of searhing on google just to be sure... but other than that, you should be ok :)12:24
fiendskull9mmk12:24
fiendskull9n2diy: but looking at the guides, it has nothing to do with xorg12:24
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fiendskull9its not like im interfacing my desktop with it12:25
magic_ninjamy mouse is going on and off and its effecting everything i do, i use 6.10, microsoft IExplorer (older version) and I have changed USB ports so i'm sure is an OS issue12:25
Lifesilentdis: also i used the technician's values for /etc/network/interfaces and i entered it correctly12:25
Nontitlefuoco: feisty is newer than edgy, using something from feisty is not backporting12:25
clintiepooCan somebody help me with my xorg.conf, please?  http://clint.bounceme.net:83/xorg.conf12:25
SilentDisLife:  not having a desktop is fine.  I'm just trying to figure out the network schema, so I can better understand the problem, and help :)12:25
n2diyfiendskull9:  Ok, if you say so.12:25
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fiendskull9n2diy: i always keep a xorg backup on a usb key anyways man12:25
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aib_does anyone have a recommended how-to for creating a .deb from source?12:25
fiendskull9n2diy: thanks for the concern tho :)12:25
Nontitlemakedeb12:26
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fiendskull9bye12:26
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eontasticnesserhey people12:26
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fuocoNontitle: backport from the newer feisty into the older edgy... what do you mean?12:26
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n2diyfiendskull9: your back up is configured for your current card. If it doesn't work, just re-install the old card.12:26
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Nontitleoh okay never mind12:26
SilentDisLife:  lets skip the whole KVM stuff for now.  if you're sshed into something, or have access to a machine in some way, shape or form, that's your starting point.  the computer.  what route would the ping request take, physically, is what I'm trying to understand :)12:26
clintiepoon2diy, can you have a look at that file I posted, please?12:26
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eontasticnesserI have a hardware raid controller that when I use raid5 with THREE drives, gparted with allow me to see the proper size, but if i do raid5 with FOUR drives, it freaks out and shows a negative value for MB12:26
eontasticnesseris this a known problem?12:26
fiendskull9n2diy: i have an nvidia 6800xt for my video card, im installing a Haupage TV card12:26
n2diyclintiepoo: were is it?12:27
clintiepoohttp://clint.bounceme.net:83/xorg.conf12:27
fiendskull9n2diy: they are different interfaces12:27
Lifesilentdis: traceroute?12:27
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n2diyfiendskull9: the video connector, or the momboard connections?12:27
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SilentDisLife:  i did support in the trenches in Tier1 and Tier2 roles for decent sized ISPs, as well as net admin for a while in my life.  Understanding the physcial layer is the FIRST part to diagnosing where net troubles are coming from.  So, what I'm asking is what cable/bits are the reqests going through?12:29
Shocka311Hey, I just installed a slave hard drive and formatted it but it won't let me acess it, write onto it or anything. The only file left is a lost and found but I can't view it.  It tells me I am not the owner therefore I have no permission to acesses it.  Any ideas?12:29
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ortega10when i'm on ubuntu, i have to connect the speakers to one of my soundcard's outlets in order to get sound; but when i'm on windows xp, i have to use another outlet... is there any way i can fix that and make both use the same?  thanks...12:30
Lifesilentdis: i would not know as i am not physically there12:30
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SilentDisLife:  forget everything from traceroute, ping, etc.  I'm looking for info on the physical layer, first and foremost, so I can better help diagnose and troubleshoot where the trouble is.  without knowing what I'm up against, i'm virtually useless lol12:30
jamesbroseI've broke my grub , I install gfxboot and uninstalled and install grub again. It now comes up with Error 22 , partition Not found, can anybody help?12:30
clintiepoon2diy: any ideas?12:30
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n2diyclintiepoo: I asked you where it was?12:31
clintiepooI sent a link12:31
clintiepoohttp://clint.bounceme.net:83/xorg.conf12:31
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SilentDisLife:  that's fine!  you don't have to be there.  What I'm trying to find out is what bits the requests are going through.  You have access to your computer, and to this server.  You're trying to send ping requests from your computer to the server.  Now, what bits of equip are those pings going through?  Does this look right:  computer > router > the internet > router > server?12:31
clintiepoodid you get that?12:31
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Shocka311Anyone???12:32
ortega10when i'm on ubuntu, i have to connect the speakers to one of my soundcard's outlets in order to get sound; but when i'm on windows xp, i have to use another outlet... is there any way i can fix that and make both use the same?  thanks ...12:32
MrSproutn2diy, I think I've found the source of the problem12:32
Lifesilentdis: i dont see that anywhere.12:32
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n2diyMrSprout: excellent.12:32
MrSproutI need to load the generic kernel which should detect my processor as having dual cores12:33
MrSproutbut12:33
SilentDisortega10:  are you using digital out on your computer for windows?12:33
SilentDisLife:  eh?12:33
MrSproutit fails to run because it cant initiate xserver12:33
ortega10SilenceGold: maybe, i don't know12:33
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MrSproutwhich I now need to resolve.12:33
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n2diyclintipoo, ok and what was the original problem again?12:33
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ortega10SilenceGold: don't remember having changed that configuration, i don't use windows a lot (only cellphone syncing and mp4 conversion)12:33
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Pie-rateagggh this new keyboard's keys are too squishy12:33
Lifesilentdis: im lost now12:33
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rb_laptopclintiepoo: shouldn't u be using an ati driver here ... Driver"vesa" ?12:34
SilentDisLife:  so it's computer > magic > server?  lol12:34
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Pie-ratei guess i need to gum it up with orange soda like the last one was12:34
Lifelet me think..12:34
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clintiepooThat xorg.conf does not work.  I feel like everything is correct, but x fails to start.  Someone earlier told me to use a vesa driver, ati doesn't work either.12:34
Lifesilentdis: yes thats right12:34
craigbass1976his isn't really an ubuntu question, but thought you folks might have an answer.  Does anyone know of a free pop mailing service besides gmail?  I've set up a bluebottle account, but it doesn't work.  I don't have text messaging on my cell phone, so I can't do gmail, unless someone wants to invite me12:34
Pie-ratei'll invite12:34
ortega10craigbass1976: you just need a gmail invite?12:35
Pie-ratehave another email address?12:35
craigbass1976phat.  I love you12:35
SilentDisortega10:  is it a yellow colored output jack when you're setup in windows?12:35
SilentDisLife:  the problem, as I understand it, is you're having problems pinging a server from your computer.  is that correct?12:35
craigbass1976cparker@candocomputerservices.com12:35
sindrumim about to change xorg.conf and backed it up. How do i reapply if things dont go right?12:35
Pie-ratei can see why you'd want another12:35
n2diyclintiepoo: do you know the video cards chipset etc...12:35
ortega10craigbass1976: sent12:35
SilentDisLife:  ok.  What are the PHYSICAL bits of kit that that request would go over?12:35
craigbass1976Thanks12:35
ortega10SilentDis: let me check12:35
Pie-ratethere you go12:35
MrSproutn2diy, what do you suggest to get xserver working under the generic kernel?12:35
Pie-ratelol probably 50 people just sent you an invite12:36
OllieDinterest12:36
sindrumdo i just cp over the one changed from recovery?12:36
Lifesilentdis: i can now ping myself12:36
Lifesilentdis: will try to connect to the server now12:36
craigbass1976xchat is locking up, so I'm going to leave before it does.  Thanks folks.12:36
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jcwinnieHow to get the desktop to a larger size?12:36
ortega10SilentDis: seems pink for windows, green for ubuntu12:36
n2diyMrSprout: it should be ready to go.12:36
MrSproutIt's not12:36
jcwinnieSomeone washed my Edgy and shrunk it12:36
MrSproutit fails to start xserver12:36
Corbeauxctrl + shift + +12:36
MrSproutdo you need an error quote?12:36
clintiepoohere's what I know: ATI Technologies Inc RV370 [Radeon X300SE] 12:36
n2diyMrSprout:  if you mean serving X to other boxes, I don't know.12:37
SilentDissindrum:  you'll find backup files in /etc/X11 I believe (same place the xorg.conf file is.12:37
jamesbroseI've broke my grub , I install gfxboot and uninstalled and install grub again. It now comes up with Error 22 , partition Not found, can anybody help?12:37
jamesbrosePlease :] 12:37
Lifesilentdis: not working12:37
Lifesilentdis: i can not ping its own IP address, however i can't ping it from my home computer12:37
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clintiepooThe monitor is running using DVI, which might be relevant.12:38
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n2diyjamesbrose: see if you find a backup to grub?12:38
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SilentDisortega10:  ok, that's fine.  green is what they're coloring the 'analog audio out' for most soundcards now adays.  You'll need to enable digital out in ubuntu.  dbl click the little speaker icon in the upper right corner, click the switches tab, and put a check for digital out :)12:38
jamesbrosethe menu.lst? or the whole grub? n2diy?12:38
graftis there any way i can get GTK applications to stop using their INCREDIBLY DUMB automatic completion mechanism?12:38
rb_laptopclintiepoo: probably vesa driver can't handle that resolution. why aren't u using an ati driver?12:38
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ortega10SilentDis: thanks but... there's no digital out option in switches12:39
n2diythe file grub.conf~ or whatever else it might be called.12:39
LaserLineDo I need to register a new service before I open a port (9111)?12:39
n2diyjamesbrose:  the file grub.conf~ or whatever else it might be called.12:39
SilentDisLife:  i'd love to help you, but i don't know enough about the network schema to provide good answers.  This problem could be related to a local router, a remote router, the remote config, etc.  I have no way of knowing where to start looking.  sorry :(12:39
clintiepoorb_laptop: I tried an ATI driver first and it didn't work.  Someone told me to use vesa, so I did.  Is there another one that I should use?12:40
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rb_laptop!ati | clintiepoo12:40
ubotuclintiepoo: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:40
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SilentDisortega10:  no problems.  it's probably not enabled.  in that same screen, click edit > prefrences.  in that list, you'll see an option for something about digital/analog out or the like.  Check it, and the option should show itself :)12:41
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graftanyone? anyone? GTK file open dialog, can I get it to stop trying (and failing) to auto-complete entries?12:41
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ortega10SilentDis: let's see12:42
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sindrumSilentDis: im just gonna back up everything then give it a try. Lets hope it doesnt break12:42
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SilentDissindrum:  good luck!12:43
SilentDissindrum:  if all else fails, remember:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg :)12:43
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seraphimdns punkrockers-radio.de12:44
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habeebThanks for the person who helped me 10minutes ago.12:44
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clintiepoohey, I just got it working.  The problem was I didn't have the correct ATI driver installed.  Ubuntu in 1920x1200 is beautiful.  Thanks for your help guys.12:45
habeebbtw, I have another problem, I created an ~/.xsession and I added a xmodmap command in it. BUT it wont get executed in boot time :/12:45
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clintiepooreally, I appreciate it12:45
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loudawgHey guys I'm having an issue with Amarok where I'm trying to transfer music to my generic audio player (it's a UMS device), but every time I click Transfer the song(s) fail to copy and amarok gives me an error.  Yet I can manually copy stuff just fine.  Any ideas?12:47
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Lifehi, my server can ping its own external ip address, however my home computer can not ping the server12:48
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Lifethe server can use apt-get properly12:48
petafileI can see my wireless device (eth1) in iwconfig, but it doesn't show up in ifconfig or network manager12:49
petafilewhat's the deal?12:49
SilentDisrausb0:  if I had some other option other than dialup, I would surely take it, trust me :P12:49
rausb0SilentDis: :)12:49
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loudawgpetafile:  have you tried bringing up the interface?  "ifup eth1"12:49
loudawgif you do a ifconfig -a it might show up then12:49
fiendskull9hey12:50
fiendskull9so i put in the tvcard12:50
fiendskull9and rebooted12:50
fiendskull9but it appears it isnt seeing it12:50
fiendskull9is there anything i have to do?12:50
fiendskull9it does say bt848 on the chip12:50
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NEWNEOwow what do yall make of this:12:50
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NEWNEOmy ip is surrounded by google_bot Ip's12:51
NEWNEOare they spying on me?12:51
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petafileloudawg, sudo ifup eth1 says no dhcpoffers recieved12:52
grimboyNEWNEO, Is google a spie?!?12:52
petafilebut it does show up in ifconfig -a12:52
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NEWNEOwow when you search through google for whats my ip it gives you the ip of the search engine just just went through12:53
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loudawgpetafile:  ok, you probably just have to configure the wireless settings12:53
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loudawgand then try bringing it up again12:53
petafileloudawg: where do I do that?12:54
n2diyHow would I find out what depends on libnewt0.5112:54
NEWNEOthats interesting12:54
loudawgUmm, in Ubuntu?  I'm not sure where the easiest way is...I'm assuming Gnome has some network configuration program.  But you can configure the interface manually by editing /etc/network/interfaces12:54
loudawgpetafile: do you know the wireless settings for your network?  Is it encrypted?12:55
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petafileloudawg: no, but I do use networks that are12:55
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phaedrapetafile, Try system > administration > networking12:55
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n2diyubotu, How would I find out what depends on libnewt0.5112:57
ankan_hello....I m havin problems playin any embedded mozilla firefox video such as frm cnn using mplayer-plugin...i m usin ubuntu breezy12:57
kvossenI'd like to have a minimal desktop setup on my server such that i can use gnome via svn. Any suggestions as to which packages i should install?12:57
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petafilephaedra: I can configure it there, but its still not showing up in network manager12:58
NEWNEOgoogle will give supply an ipaddress from which to search from... if you had an anonymous proxy before your line you could do attacks almost completly anyonmous through google12:58
petafilephaedra: seems I enabled it there and it has an ip, still not in network manager12:59
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jamesmhalln2diy: try going into synaptic then searching for libnewt0.51. right click then properties then dependencies then select dependent packages12:59
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n2diyjamesmhall: thanks, but I want to find out what uses it? I'm thinking of installing libnewt0.52, and I don't want to break anything.01:00
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fiendskull9can someone help me setup my bt848 in ubuntu?01:00
fiendskull9tv-card01:01
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petafilecheck01:01
zcat[1] fiendskull9: apt-get install tvtime, the card should already be set up.. mine was..01:02
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fiendskull9zcat[1] : thats the prob01:02
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fiendskull9it doesnt seem to be auto-setup01:02
jamesmhalln2diy: that should tell you what uses it. its important to select dependent packages rather than dependencies though01:02
py__I'm running apache2 on Breezy (installed with synaptic).  What do I need to do to get python scripts running as cgi?  When I go to the .cgi file, it just serves it as text.01:02
fiendskull9the chip sais bt848 on it. i popped her in, rebooted, and its not working01:02
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zcat[1] might be one of those with no ID.. you know what the card is?01:03
fiendskull9nope01:03
n2diyjamesmhall: roger that, I'm poking around there now.01:03
fiendskull9got it from an old friend.01:03
zcat[1] has it got an FCCID or anything on it?01:03
fiendskull9it might01:04
fiendskull9gah01:04
fiendskull9i g2g01:04
fiendskull9bbl01:04
cafuego_py__: you need to enable the cgi handler to work for files ending in .py01:04
cafuego_py__: and the dir they're in needs to have Options +ExecCGI set.01:04
py__cafuego: the file ends in .cgi -- works fine on a remote hosting plan, but I want to run them on my own computer01:04
cafuego_py__: Perhaps mod_python is easier01:04
ankan_hello....I m havin problems playin any embedded mozilla firefox video such as frm cnn using mplayer-plugin...i m usin ubuntu breezy01:04
py__cafuego: I'm learning both01:04
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calmhi, all! i just installed edgy, and installed a radeon x300 at the same time. question: how stable is fglrx? i can't get a sense from the wiki: are normal users generally having quick/easy/painless installations of fglrx, or is it buggy for a lot of people?01:05
py__cafuego: my python tutorial is for cgi01:05
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n2diyjamesmhall: found them, thanks.01:06
cratelin gnome's file dialog windows is there a way to go so hidden directories i.e. directories that start w/ a '.'?01:06
jamesmhalln2diy: no problem01:06
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calmcratel: browse for other folders, right click, and "show hidden files"01:07
dougbdoes anyone know why the "nv" driver won't go to 24-bit color?01:07
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derek_How do I apt-get uninstall?01:07
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derek_any such command?01:07
cratelcalm: thanks that worked!01:08
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nikosapiderek: apt-get remove01:08
derek_ok01:08
jamesmhallcalm: i've found that with fglrx the install goes fine if you follow the guides, it can be a little more tricky if you've recompiled your kernel but still do-able. as to stability i've never had a problem01:08
calmcratel: np ^_^_^ (hey look it's a cute/happy alien!)01:08
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py__caguego: you mentioned Options +ExecCGI.  Can I put that in my .htaccess?01:09
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HymnToLifepy__, yes01:10
HymnToLifeif yout apache config allows it01:10
DanglyBitscan someone suggest a webcam capture program in edgy for use with a logitech pro 4000 usb webcam?01:10
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fiendskull9back01:11
py__HymnToLife: strange... it isn't working.  I enabled .htaccess files in apache and restarted.  Still just shows the text of the script.01:11
fiendskull9zcat[1] : the tvcard isnt labeled.01:12
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fiendskull9zcat[1] : but i know for sure its a bt848, because it sais that on there01:12
derek_Anyone uses straw feed reader?01:12
fiendskull9zcat[1] : i also tryed modprobe bttv, and tuner01:12
zcat[1] lspci might help.. or not.01:12
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py__derek: I use liferea -- it's great01:13
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fiendskull9gah, brb01:13
derek_I removed it. It doesn't give any pop-up notification of new feeds01:13
derek_I have to manually check in the window01:14
boxubican anyone who's run Ubuntu on an AMD64 machine tell me if there is a noticeable speed/stability increase compared to corrent 32-bit machines?01:14
boxubicurrent*01:14
zcat[1] or try one card-id at a time until something works.01:15
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DagonXwould someone recommend a good burner program to bun ISO DVD's01:16
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nikosapiDagonX: k3b01:16
DagonXthanks01:17
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aib_does anyone recommend a how-to for creating .deb packages from source?01:18
aib_makedeb isn't very robust01:18
linopilcntb,01:18
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linopil!alternatives01:21
ubotuTo change the default applications system-wide, use 'sudo update-alternatives --all' in a terminal.01:21
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emiliacan someone help me out, i cant logon to my system, when i type in my credentials, it goes right back to the login screen, even if i choose failsafe, so now im in console :(01:22
emiliais there anyways i can redo my system, and not format whats in /home?01:22
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Aggrav8dyou know you've been coding too long when you type /join $php01:23
Aggrav8danyways01:24
zcat[1] emilia: look in .Xsession-errors and see what's making it fail?01:24
emiliazcat[1]  : where is that? /~ ?01:24
zcat[1] sorry, .xsession-errors -- yeah, in ~01:25
emiliaman01:25
emiliai pressed ctrl + alt+ f201:25
emiliaand a new console wont start01:25
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emiliaits just a black screen01:25
viatorlol01:25
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linopil\o emilia01:26
emiliaso now i have to quit bitchx to check that file?01:26
zcat[1] emilia: hmmm.. when you installed did you put /home on it's own partition?01:26
emiliazcat[1]  no:( :(:(01:26
linopil emilia invited to linguistics01:26
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emiliazcat[1]  : i didnt know about partitions until after i installed ubuntu like months ago01:26
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emilialinguistics?01:27
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linopilyeah nice place01:27
zcat[1] Chances are the problem is your .gnome settings or something anyhow.. reisntalling and leaving /home wouldn't fix it :)01:27
emiliaso can i do somethign like aptitude reinstall gnome/01:27
emilia?01:27
emiliaor erase ~/.gnome ?01:28
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zcat[1] Add a new user and see if they can log in, that would narrow it down fairly quick01:28
emiliai still dont get why i cant open another console01:28
emiliahow do i add another user?01:28
zcat[1] yeah, that is weird too..01:28
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tux-kallehi, what file commander has got ubuntu, just installed 1st time ;;)01:28
zcat[1] sudo adduser01:28
emiliasudo adduser username ?01:28
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tux-kallei searched for mc01:29
linopilhow newbie are you emilia ?01:29
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n2diyemilia: that should work.01:29
zcat[1] yeah (can never remember, some systems prompt for the username, I think ubuntu expects it on the commandline)01:29
emilialinopil : extremely, but im learnign fast :)01:29
linopiltux-kalle,  I love krusader in kde01:29
linopilgood emilia01:29
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tux-kalleoh, this one i knew from debian, works fine01:30
emiliaok, ill try adduser, brb01:30
linopiltry  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop01:30
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tux-kallewell, so i'll try to install it01:30
linopiltry sudo apt-cache search kde01:30
linopiltry sudo apt-cache search "whatever"01:30
linopil tux-kalle see above01:31
linopiltry  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop01:31
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emiliaok01:32
emiliaim logged in as root01:32
emiliaand gnome is a-ok01:32
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clemyeatshi01:33
bruenig!hi | clemyeats01:33
ubotuclemyeats: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!01:33
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touchOkay, I'm officially lost. I've tried using the default wacom entries in the xorg.conf to make my touchscreen work, that didn't work, I've loaded a second driver, added it to xorg.conf and that didn't work.. how do I get this thing to at least accept there's a touchscreen?01:34
Shdw|LaptopI'm trying to run TvTime on Ubuntu 6.10 with a ATI Radeon X1600 (I did install the ATI drivers), but I get an error that says: "xvoutput: No XVIDEO port found which supports YUY2 images." Would anyone know how to fix this?01:34
tux-kalletried sudo apt-get install krusader, but package was not found01:34
emilianow how to fix my profile :(01:35
bruenig!info krudader01:35
ubotuPackage krudader does not exist in any distro I know01:35
bruenig!info krusader01:35
ubotukrusader: twin-panel (commander-style) file manager for KDE (and other desktops). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.70.1-1 (edgy), package size 2547 kB, installed size 6940 kB01:35
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bruenigtux-kalle, it is in universe, do you have that enabled?01:35
n2diyemilia: not a good idea logging in as root, create another user, like Emily.01:35
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tux-kallei dont think so01:35
emilian2diy: how come?01:36
bruenigtux-kalle, have you ever messed with /etc/apt/sources.list?01:36
tux-kalleyes, with my 1st steps in debian01:36
n2diyemilia:  then you can copy Emily's stuff to Emilia's.01:36
bruenigtux-kalle, copy and paste the following then, the entire thing, it will enabled all extra repos, update, and then install krusader, sudo sed -e 's/# deb/deb/g' -e 's/edgy universe/edgy universe multiverse/g' -e 's/edgy-security universe/edgy-security universe multiverse/g' -i.backup /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install krusader01:36
emilian2diy:  can i rename it emily to emilia after?01:36
tux-kallebut there i got mc midnight commander ;901:36
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n2diyemilia:  I suppose, but you would have to remove Emilia first.01:37
emilian2diy: thats fine01:37
emilian2diy: i dont know what the hell im doing, i dont think ubuntu is for me01:37
w3ccvemilia, never think of root as a user - but rather as a a dangerous tool01:38
thejapaemilia: take it slow01:38
n2diyemilia: you'll love it, once you get the hang of it.01:38
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emiliawheres users?01:39
emiliaits not in administration?01:39
bruenigtux-kalle, did that work?01:39
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n2diyemilia:  /system/admin/users and groups01:39
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jmiller565can someone help me with my printer?01:40
emiliahrmm i did alt+f2, then users-admin, and it says im not allowed to access it01:40
bruenigemilia, sudo users-admin01:40
emiliaim logged in as root01:40
bruenigemilia, gksudo users-admin01:40
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bruenigemilia, why are you logged in as root?01:40
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emiliabruenig: my profile wont load01:40
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tux-kallebruening, slowly please, i'm not so fast01:40
matallohello01:41
bruenigtux-kalle, just copy and paste the whole thing, it will do it01:41
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matallowhen the next kernel will be released?01:41
bruenigemilia, what do you mean your profile won't load?01:41
w3ccvmatallo,  a couple weeks ago01:41
emiliabruenig: when i log in, it goes right back tot he login screen, even if i chose failsafe terminal01:41
fooI just copied my .gaim folder from ubuntu dapper to ubuntu edgy... and it doesn't copy any accounts/logs. Any ideas?01:42
matalloso, my remote can work, cuz it doesnt right now01:42
matalloand i've read it will01:42
bruenigemilia, no error message?01:42
tux-kalleseems to work01:42
jmiller565can someone help with connecting my ubunutu machine to a printer which is connected to a windows xp computer?01:42
emiliabruenig: no, the screen turns black, and then the login screen appears again01:42
matallojust one remote that lirc doesn't handle, and it's mine01:42
bruenigemilia, and you have tried, just doing ctrl + alt + f1 and going into one of those and it doesn't work?01:42
matallo:(01:43
n2diybruenig: she was told to create a new user, and she chose to name it root.01:43
emiliabruenig: yeah it works01:43
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bruenign2diy, but root is not root, just the name of a normal user?01:43
jmiller565plz can someone help with connecting my ubunutu machine to a printer which is connected to a windows xp computer?01:43
n2diybruenig: yes01:43
bruenign2diy, oh01:43
BiNzjmiller565, did you run the printer setup?01:43
BlackHawkgn801:43
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emiliajmiller565: share the printer on your windows computer, then browse for it in ubuntu01:43
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jmiller565i have . it connects but when i try to print something out it doesn't01:44
fooI just copied my .gaim folder from ubuntu dapper to ubuntu edgy... and it doesn't copy any accounts/logs. Any ideas?01:44
n2diybruenig: I suggested she create a user, named Emily, and go from there.01:44
teratornhow do I disable gdm and enable logging in through the Linux console?01:44
BiNzbrb movie is on01:44
jmiller565i gets ready to but then stops01:44
emilian2diy: i did that, now if i login as emily, will i have the priveleges to edit the accounts/01:44
emilia?01:44
matalloteratorn just press ctrl+f101:44
teratorn(I know how to prevent gdm from starting.. but that still doesn't get me to a text console)01:44
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n2diyemilia: yes, but you will be prompted for the password.01:47
teratornmatallo: yeah, I was just wondering if there was some way to make VT1 the default01:47
emilian2diy: ok im going to try now to login as the new user, thanks for the help!! :)01:47
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zcat[1] emilia: this is just a diagnostic step, we're trying to narrow down if the problem is your system, or your user config. If you create a new user and it works, we'll look at how to fix your existing user's config.01:47
matallothere must be a way01:47
matallobut i dunno01:47
jmiller565emilia: i have shared my printer and i have done the printer setup . it connects but when i try to print something out it doesn't01:47
n2diyzcat[1] : she created a new user, root of all things, and Gnome was ok. I had her create a user named Emily, and she is logging into that now.01:47
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bruenigteratorn, sudo apt-get remove gdm?01:47
jmiller565anyone know what my problem is?01:47
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bruenigteratorn, also I would be willing to wager that if you moved the gdm script out of /etc/init.d, that would do it01:47
zcat[1] you can create an ordinary user named 'root' ??01:47
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n2diyzcat[1] : she did it!01:48
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touchFinding what port this thing is connected on is the biggest part of my problem01:48
atlantishow can i install suns java in edgy? all tutorials i see say to install 'java-package' but it doesnt seem to be in any of the repos i have installed.01:48
tux-kallebuening, i fond krusader in my adept, had just to make a sign in checkbox unsupportet...01:48
teratornbruenig: well that would be a terrible cludge.. I've disabled gdm from running with update-rd.d like you're supposed to :)01:48
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emiliai cant login as my new user01:48
emiliasame error01:48
matallohttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186792 atlantis01:48
zcat[1] hmmm..01:49
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jmiller565BiNZ: i have connected to it through Ubuntu but when i try to print something out it doesn't want to01:49
emiliaif i go to console as root, and startx, thats the only way gnome starts.01:49
zcat[1] what was the error?01:49
twissyatlantis, u should see sun-java in default repo's01:49
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emiliano error, just goes to a black screen, and right back to the login screen01:49
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jmiller565how can i solve my printer problem?01:50
emiliaalso when i start the pc, and chose recovery mode from grub, it auto logs in as root, isnt that wrong?01:50
n2diyemila, where you playing wiht xorg.conf earlier, or was that someone else?01:50
atlantistwissy, there is no 'sun-java' in the repos...01:50
emilian2diy : no01:50
zcat[1] emilia: no, that's what recovery mode is..01:50
twissyatlantis enable all repos in synaptic01:51
emiliazcat[1]  : but it didnt even ask for a password, isnt that kind of not secure?01:51
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zcat[1] kind of. If someone has console access, nothing is secure.01:51
seraphimemilia: you can set a password for grub01:52
emiliamy system is not only not secure, but not working :(01:52
zcat[1] .. cos with physical access they can always just boot a live CD and have access to everything anyhow01:52
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w3ccvemilia, this isn't much help. but I've had the same problem logging in with both Solaris (sun) and Red Hat - it'01:53
seraphimzcat[1] : you can disable booting from cd and set a password in bios. so an evil person would have to open the box...;)01:53
n2diyemilia: your system is secure from everything except whom ever might be sitting at your keyboard.01:53
atlantistwissy, i have enabled them all via /etc/apt/sources.list01:53
w3ccvs an X problem01:53
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SurfnKidis there a way to make ubuntu fade to screensaver but not completely darken01:53
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zcat[1] seraphim: true. But if you know how to do that, you'll likely know how to set a grub password too.01:53
SurfnKidand yet place a password box in the middle of the screen01:53
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SurfnKidthis so its still visible for anyone01:53
twissyatlantis, i got sun-java-5 in synaptic01:53
n2diyw3cvv, she created a user named root, and he can log in!01:53
emiliaso does anyone know a way i can go back to a default install and not lose the stuff on my hd?01:54
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zcat[1] emilia: boot a live cd and SCP everything to another machine..01:54
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twissyatlantis google for automatix2, that also installs java for u01:54
emiliawhats scp?01:54
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zcat[1] copy over the network01:54
w3ccvn2diy, yes, an X problem for the user, not an overall X problem.  Darned it but I dont' remember the fix  Probably about 3am I will01:54
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jmiller565anyone know what my printer problem is?01:55
zcat[1] you have another machine somewhere?01:55
emiliajmiller565 : did you share it on winxp?01:55
jmiller565emilia: yea01:55
timo901hey i have a problem ,when ever i log back on my keyboard layout gets massed up01:55
emiliazcat[1]  : no, and i only have a 40gb hd and its more or less full01:55
twissyatlantis :  http://www.debianadmin.com/install-automatix2-in-ubuntukubuntuxubuntu.html01:55
timo901its sapoe to be uk01:55
timo901sappose01:55
emiliajmiller565 : so make sure both pc's are on the same workgroup, and then browse your workgroup and add the printer01:55
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jmiller565um... ok i'll try that01:56
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n2diyw3ccv: yes, probably in xorg.conf? Where in 3 land are you?01:56
zcat[1] OK, try just removing /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf-custom01:56
buuuchHello01:56
jmiller565emilia: um... ok i'll try that01:56
linopilemilia full of what01:56
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zcat[1] 'wild guess'01:56
emilialinopil : alot of picture, music, and homework01:56
linopilmust have burner01:56
emilialinopil : i do, but not a dvd burner, only cd01:56
w30Is there a command called filestat for Linux or is that just for Solaris?01:56
w3ccvn2diy, MD - Columbia01:56
buuuchAnyone know where i can find a guide for installing drivers for epia-sp?01:56
linopilgood burn the most important to CDs01:57
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buuuchcn400 chipset01:57
emilialinopil : how do i do that from console/01:57
emilia?01:57
n2diyw3ccv: RR, I'm in Lansford, Carbon Co. PA.01:57
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zcat[1] emilia: mkisofs -R -J -o something.iso directory/01:57
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emiliaoh man01:57
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zcat[1] emilia: then cdrecord dev=/dev/cdrom something.iso01:57
emiliamaybe i should just go out and buy a new hd01:58
linopilI burn from GUI - Graphical User Interface emilia01:58
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emilialinopil : thats amazing01:58
emilialinopil : i wish i had a gui, thanks01:58
linopilwhat01:58
buuuchwhere is your gui emilia?01:58
zcat[1] emilia: If that's an option, its' the easiest.. install to the new drive, then plug the old one in as slave and recover what you want to keep.01:58
linopil YOu have trouble with GUI01:58
emiliabuuuch : id love to know01:58
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buuuchyou using ubuntu 610 live?01:59
linopilare you o Xp now or irssi in ubuntu ?01:59
emiliabuuuch : no 6.10 isntalled01:59
emilialinopil : im in console01:59
buuuchhas your gui worked before?01:59
linopilno X windows ?01:59
emilialinopil : now im in console01:59
linopilOK now in console01:59
jmiller565NZ01:59
linopildo df -h01:59
emiliazcat[1]  : yeah it would be, i just dont feel like shelling out 100$01:59
emilialinopil : whats df?02:00
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linopilman df02:00
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BiNzreformat02:00
emilialinopil : youre an idiot02:00
linopild(isk)free02:00
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emiliawhy would i reformat02:00
linopiltyvm emilia why02:00
twissydf = dubble-format02:00
zcat[1] df == disk free02:01
BiNzyou cant get your gui working?02:01
zcat[1] tells you what space you have02:01
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linopilhow old are you to judge me hahahah02:01
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twissygeez little humor was too much02:01
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linopiltwissy,  ???02:01
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twissy:)02:01
twissyuser walked away02:02
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linopilwhat are you doing here02:02
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linopiltrolling?02:02
timo901can any one help with my key board lay out02:02
zcat[1] People get a bit stressed when their machine is messed up, it pays not to joke around too much :)02:02
twissywhat's that02:02
timo901i have to keep changing ti after i log on02:02
twissyi see02:02
linopilhear that Twissy ?02:02
linopiltyvm02:02
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twissyrelax, too much stress is bad 4 ur heart02:03
tux-kalleat all: can i install rpm files in kubuntu?02:03
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bruenig /ignore *!*@219-90-167-147.ip.adam.com.au ALL02:03
linopilkeep trolling ?02:03
bruenigwoops02:03
linopilworry about yourself Iam OK02:03
twissywhat am I saying02:03
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ntyrunmi couldn't install ati drivers for my ubuntu box can anybody help me i wanna install xgl/beryl afterwards02:03
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twissygeez u wanna feel powerfull by kicking me, just do it02:03
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clemyeatstux-kalle: yes, but debs are far more suitable.02:04
twissypfft02:04
zcat[1] just /ign *.au all ..02:04
linopiland you go flame elsewhere twissy02:04
zcat[1] damn aussies..02:04
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zcat[1] :)02:04
tux-kallethx clemy02:04
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viatorno its not02:06
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ntyrunmwhen i run fglrxinfo it says mesa 300 ... my graphics card is 9600xt02:07
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ntyrunmi tried everything written on the how to's but they didn't work for me02:07
Stormx2ntyrunm: Searched ubuntuforums.org? Started a topic?02:08
levanderI've had emacs and firefox both crash on me when I left them open while I left the computer for a few hours.  Is this pretty abnormal, or usual with edgy?  It never happened on any previous release I've used.02:08
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ChrisBradleyhello02:08
Stormx2levander: Its never happened to me full stop o.o Are you up-to-date?02:08
clemyeatslevander: it shouldn't happen02:08
Stormx2hi ChrisBradley02:08
ChrisBradleyhi Stormx202:08
zcat[1] levander: odd, very odd.02:08
levanderStormx2: yeah, just updated today02:08
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zcat[1] how'd you update?02:09
Stormx2!crash02:09
ubotuFor help debugging your program, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures02:09
Stormx2:)02:09
ntyrunmi've searched ubuntuforums.org and followed the instructions step by step but02:09
Jbba1221anyone know how to get the xm online applet to work, it pulls up, and i click the channel, but then it shuts firefox down completely02:09
zcat[1] !update02:09
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes02:09
Stormx2ntyrunm: And rebooted?02:09
ChrisBradleybeen working on collecting friends...02:09
levanderI use emacs as my IRC client, and am wondering if just the emacs buffers filled up so much with chat, that emacs just crashed.02:09
ntyrunmyes rebooted02:09
w3ccvlevander, I'02:09
levanderw3ccv: ?02:10
ChrisBradleyI don't remember if we met before.02:10
Lifehow do i find what version of ubuntu i have?02:10
Stormx2levander: What's it like living in '95? :)02:10
w3ccvlevander, I've had firefox dissappear on Edgy but I only have 256 memory02:10
linopilwhat is fglrxinfo ?02:10
Stormx2Life: Places > About Ubuntu02:10
Lifestormx2: i dont have a desktop, how about command line?02:10
rogue780does anyone know the command line to restart X?02:10
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clemyeatsrogue780: CTRL + ALT + BACKSPACE02:11
Stormx2!version02:11
ubotuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.02:11
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Zahrberrogue: startX I think02:11
zcat[1] rogue780: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart02:11
levanderChrisBradley: why are you working on collecting friends? you are selling something?02:11
Stormx2clemyeats: Command line....02:11
linopilrogue780,  why not ctrl alt backspace?02:11
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Lifety02:11
quibbage#linuxhelp02:11
clemyeatsStormx2: oh.. sorry :)02:11
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levanderw3ccv: if you've got swap space, it still should have crashed02:11
rogue780clemyeats, linopil, so I can do it over SSH02:11
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rogue780it's for my mythtv frontend02:11
linopilOK rogue78002:11
ChrisBradleyjust showing off my new website - new domain etc. - new channel. - everything's changed in like 3 days.02:11
rogue780zcat[1] , thanks02:12
clemyeatsrogue780:  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart02:12
ntyrunmhow do we close X?02:12
rogue780clemyeats, thanks02:12
foobis gdm the same thing as X1102:12
ChrisBradleygot like 20 people in my channel now - never had that many before.02:12
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Stormx2ChrisBradley: Please don't bring it in here. You might get away with it in #ubuntu-offtopic02:12
clemyeatsfoob: no02:12
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zcat[1] ntyrunm: : sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop02:12
Zahrberntyrunm: halt works for me02:12
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avalonFatal server error:02:12
avalonlibc_wrapper error: passed invalid FILE handle to xf86fprintf02:12
avalonAnyone know how to fix that?02:12
Zahrber; )02:12
linopilor rogue780:  sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restar ?02:12
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Stormx2avalon: What were you running?02:12
ChrisBradleyThanks for the tip02:12
zcat[1] ntyrunm: : sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop -- covers gdm, kdm, xdm, etc...02:13
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rogue780linopil, it's on xubuntu with openbox so it should be gdm02:13
rogue780thanks02:13
avalonStormx2: A driver I loaded into xorg trying to get my touchscreen to work02:13
linopilChrisBradley, where is your channel ?02:13
foobah gdm = gnome display manager02:13
ntyrunmthanks02:13
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Stormx2avalon: Eek! ubuntuforums.org my lad02:13
dmanyone know how ican format a  external USB drive to be fat32.02:13
Zahrberanyone here had any luck with NTFS-3G I can't get it to work with external USB HD enclosure been at it for a few hours02:14
Stormx2!format02:14
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter02:14
avalonTried that Stormx2, no one knows :(02:14
zcat[1] dm: mkdosfs -F32 /dev/whatever02:14
Stormx2ZahrberZahrber: Checked the guide?02:14
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Stormx2avalon: Aww that sucks! Leave it a little longer perhaps...02:14
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avalonTried for a few days now02:14
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ZahrberStormx2: been through the guide with a fine tooth comb and tried everything02:14
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ChrisBradleynp02:14
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Zahrbersince i have been trying to use NTFS-3G now my drive wwon't mount at all02:15
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ZahrberI am about to go back to NTFStools02:15
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avalon6 days, three distros and still no touchscreen02:16
Stormx2avalon: That sucks! I don't know why it would be doing it. Perhaps the makers of the driver would have a website?02:16
Nontitlewow, sounds like you've done quite alot of work there02:16
zcat[1] perhaps it's broken? Does it work in 'doze ?02:16
Lunar_LampMy router cannot detect the hostnames of the linux machines on my network.  How can I resolve this? Is there a way to install a name server or something on my netwrk?02:16
eegoreIs ther a test utility to check the correct connection of the speaker sets\02:16
avalonMhmm Stormx2, and they don't support linux ;)02:16
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quibbageAny1 out there who uses beryl?02:17
dmavalon i wouldnt blame linux for that :)02:17
Stormx2avalon: I thought it was an X driver?02:17
Stormx2!beryl | quibbage02:17
ubotuquibbage: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl02:17
ZahrberLunar: Do you have Samba running first off02:17
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zcat[1] beryl still breaks too much stuff for me.. media, openGL, user switching... too much hassle02:18
Stormx2Zahrber: Would he need samba?02:18
ZahrberLunar: Not sure depends on the frimware of the router02:18
zcat[1] perhaps I need a better card02:18
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Stormx2Beryl breaks everything for me, X won't boot. But I'm using a pre-geforce nvidia card.... so it figures.02:18
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Zahrberto get the computer names it has to ask the OS for the computer name02:18
Zahrberit isn't like MAC address and hard coded to hardware02:19
Stormx2Lunar_Lamp: Why does your router need to see the hostnames anyway?02:19
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rj45hi02:19
avalonWell it is Stormx2, but it came from a site. Supposedly specially compiled for Dapper but alas02:19
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Zahrbermost router only need the internal IP's02:19
rj45is it posible can i sell ubuntu dedicated servers?02:19
Lunar_LampStormx2, I like it to be able to. I have several machines hooked up to it and it makes my life easier if I can see which one is which in the router interface.02:20
Zahrberrj45 you can sell anything if someone will buy it02:20
zcat[1] rj45: don't see why not...02:20
n2diyrj45: why not?02:20
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rj45ahh ok :D02:20
Lunar_LampZahrber, what does samba have to do with anything?02:20
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Zahrberin the dhcp table it sometimes shows names of PC's with my Linksys and sometimes not02:20
Nontitleavalon: have you tried XFree86 at all? or just Xorg?02:20
Stormx2I agree with that point. Samba should not come into this.02:20
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avalonNot familiar with XFree86. Does it work with Ubuntu? Would it detect a touchscreen?02:21
ZahrberI know but he said computer names so that comes to network protocols not Ip addresses02:21
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Nontitleit might. i don't use XFree86 much, but it might02:22
mborgI have installed lampp and it is running, however when i try to access http://localhost/ i get this error: Warning: file_get_contents(lang.tmp) [function.file-get-contents] : failed to open stream: Permission denied in /opt/lampp/htdocs/xampp/index.php on line 202:22
Zahrberin Windows a name server lets u use names attached to Ip's within a windows network02:22
avalonSo not going to be as simple as a sudo apt-get eh?02:22
Nontitleactually it might02:22
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avalonLemme aptitude it02:22
Nontitleare you using irc on the computer you are testing?02:22
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ZahrberMy Linksys Router doesn't always list all my PC's in the DHCP Table not even the windows machines02:23
Nontitleas well, what is the model of your touchscreen?02:23
w3ccvmborg, make sure that the directory/file has read permissions for the httpd server02:23
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avalonUSB model02:23
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Lunar_LampMy Belkin router can see the windows machines fine - it;s the linux machines it won't give me the hostnames of.02:23
danny500does anyone know how to get rid of the messeges off the screen in wesnoth?02:23
agentwhat is the easiest way to define a desktop wide shortcut (to start a custom program) in gnome?02:23
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Nontitlecool02:23
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Lunar_Lampagent, right click on the desktop and click "create launcher"02:23
stepanstashey guys02:24
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danny500does anyone know how to get rid of the messeges off the screen in wesnoth?02:24
Infeliz-nope02:24
cflcm_how do I log in as root02:24
agentLunar_Lamp: when i said shortcut i meant key shortcut.... as in, what is the easiest way to desktop wide bind a key to a program02:24
Nontitlesu02:24
Infeliz-sudo -s02:24
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danny500damn, I asked in the room made just for that game but none of the jerks would answer me02:24
avalonYou usually don't need to cflcm_, it's best to sudo02:25
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Nontitlesudo -s or you can use su -02:25
danny500well thanks anyways cya02:25
cflcm_yeah, i know, but I screwed some things up02:25
stepanstasi rebooted my os and (i have multi boot with windows and ubuntu) the windows was replaced by ubuntu (all three things were added inplace of the windows), how can i get it back02:25
emiliadoes anyone know how to take back ownership of a folder and make it 667 ?02:25
emiliai dont know what 667 means, but does it mean mine :) ?02:25
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emiliafor the /home folder02:25
cflcm_can you do it?02:25
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w3ccvstepanstas, select the windows from the grup menu (during boot)02:26
phil___hola02:26
emiliastepanstas : if all else failes, you can overwrite grub by using the xp install cd, chosing repait, and then fixing the master boot record02:26
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emilia*repair02:26
n2diystepanstas: reboot, and chose Windows instead of Linux.02:26
emiliai think the command isits fixmbr02:26
stepanstasemilia: windows is not an option, it was replaced02:26
emilia*is02:26
Nontitleto take ownership sudo chown username  and 667 means rw-rw-rwx02:26
stepanstasn2diy: same as above02:26
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mborgw3ccv, the directory and all of its files have read permissions02:27
emiliastepanstas : replaced, or just not in grub as an option?02:27
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n2diystepanstas: ok how about hda?02:27
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stepanstasemilia: i guess not an option, well, i know its still in the system because i did not format, but..02:27
emilian2diy : hey, i got gnome to load now with an error, it says hard drive full or not accessible to write auuthority ?02:28
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Nontitleis windows still there, just not on grub? or is it removed altogethere?02:28
mborgw3ccv, nevermind it's been fixed02:28
stepanstasemilia: this was my order: windows, ubuntu:(just a name, had no function, then the three ubuntu things (generic....02:28
emiliastepanstas : so you can do what i said earlier, all you need is the xp cd02:28
buuuchcan anyone help me with a problem im having with unichrome installation guide on the wiki?02:28
n2diyemila, what does df -h tell you?02:28
emiliastepanstas : but then you would lose ubuntu02:28
Nontitlei have two completely seperate hard drives that i swap out when i want to use windws or ubuntu02:28
stepanstasemilia: and now its the three ubuntus, Ubuntu: (just the name, no function) and again the three ubuntus,02:29
zcat[1] emilia: df -dh    I think I know what your problem is :)02:29
DarthLappystepanstas: Edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst ?02:29
emilian2diy : 27gb partition, 26 gb used, no space left, 100% used02:29
w3ccvmborg, index.php sounds exectuable to me, mabe not but try making that file exectuable02:29
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zcat[1] yep.. you need to free up some space.02:29
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Nontitlestepanstas: go into ubuntu and type grub-update i dont know but it might do something02:29
n2diyemilia:  not a good thing.02:29
emiliazcat[1]  : so its not a ownership thing?02:29
Nontitlesorry, sudo grub-update02:29
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buuuch???02:29
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buuuchcan anyone help me with a problem im having with unichrome installation guide on the wiki?02:30
emiliabut i technically should have 1 gb free02:30
zcat[1] emilia: It's an 'i can't write anything to anywhere' thing02:30
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emiliazcat[1]  : that sounds wonderful02:30
n2diyemilia: it is probably reserved for swapping, and other system stuff.02:30
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zcat[1] 5% gets reserved for critical system use. Sounds like you really do need another HDD.02:31
stepanstashere is the thing, i have xp on a 160 gb drive, and ubuntu on a seperate 9 gb drive02:31
biotroxhey all, need to cut & paste songs with file extensions of mp3, wav, ogg, etc... what s/w must i use..?02:31
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Nontitledo you have a swap partition?02:31
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emiliazcat[1]  im going to try and erase something, then log in, thanks02:31
Nontitlewhy would you put ubuntu on a 9gb drive?02:31
stepanstasi dont know if editing menu.lst would help since both lead to ubuntu02:31
n2diybiotrox: take a look at audacity..02:31
avalonWell apparently Nontitle, xfree86 works better on older machines.. so maybe it'll love my screen02:32
zcat[1] Nontitle: because it fits, as long as you don't add too many packages or user files.02:32
stepanstasnontitle: my main function for ubuntu is internet02:32
avalonLooks like Nontitle is popular ;)02:32
Nontitlei know :)02:32
zcat[1] Nontitle: although personally I'd have used xubuntu. Cos if you have a 9G drive chances are it's an older machine too.02:32
stepanstasemilia: is the windows cd my only option?02:32
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avalonBRB, dinner's a calling. Gumbo :D02:33
eigenlambdaok, i have nothing else to do.  feisty.  how2install?02:33
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zcat[1] ~feisty02:34
eigenlambda!feisty > eigenlambda02:34
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zcat[1] Ahh crap..02:34
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ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+102:34
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stepanstasok, does anyone else multi boot with xp pro?02:35
buuuchcan anyone help me with a problem im having with unichrome installation guide on the wiki?02:35
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Nontitledid you try sudo grub-update?02:35
emiliaomg it worked02:35
emiliabut now i get HAL failed to load02:35
zcat[1] my lappy's running far too well atm. I should put feisty on it just to make life interesting02:36
emiliaand alt+f2 wont work02:36
emiliawwwwwow02:36
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stepanstasemilia: do you have xp on your computer to?02:36
emiliastepanstas: no02:36
Stormx2zcat[1] : I wouldn't recommend it02:37
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stepanstasemilia: do you think that copying the text that another person has to my menu.lst would work?02:37
zcat[1] Stormx2: I'll partimage it first. If FF sucks too bad I'll go back to EE02:37
emiliastepanstas: i dont know, ive never manually configured grub02:37
w3ccv!pastebin02:38
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)02:38
emiliastepanstas: is ubuntu a new isntallation? or do you really want to keep it/02:38
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Nontitlestepanstas: what happens when you do sudo grub-update?02:38
stepanstasi would prefer to keep it, i dont really have anything saved, but i changed a lot of stuff and added things02:39
stepanstasnontitle: im new to ubuntu, is that a command?02:39
zcat[1] scictt. two more sleeps. :)02:39
biotroxaudacity can't export to wma..?02:39
spacing_guildanyone know anything about Kino?02:39
Nontitleoh sorry - yes it is02:39
biotroxwhat s/w must i use to convert mp3, wav, ogg, etc to wma..?02:40
biotrox!wma02:40
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zcat[1] biotrox: "winXP"02:40
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biotroxzcat[1] : in ubuntu please.. not in winxp02:40
biotroxi need to convert some file to wma02:41
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emiliastepanstas: its happened to me, what i did was boot the xp cd, choose repair, then type fixmbr, itll overwrite grub, and you can boot to xp02:41
zcat[1] perhaps mencoder+win32codecs can do it, I'm not sure02:41
cflcm_anyone use grip?02:41
w3ccvstepanstas, a sample menu.lst   =  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38443/02:41
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zcat[1] why would you want to?02:41
stepanstasnontitle:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38444/02:41
w3ccvcflcm_,   yes02:41
echostormhi guys. Does anyone know what tool to get to burn .img files? Gnomebabker doesnt see them as valid images02:42
w3ccvcflcm_, your question about it02:42
cflcm_well, I want to set it up to automatically rip cds, and to do that it either needs to refuse to open multiple instances of itself, or close when it is done. is that possible?02:42
stepanstasw3ccv: is # For booting OS/2 considered xp?02:42
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stepanstasemilia: i would like repairing xp to be my last resort02:43
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w3ccvcflcm_, it really hogs system resources, I wouldn't try it with two cd readers02:44
cflcm_is there another one that will rip-on-cd-insert, and use LAME?02:44
w3ccvstepanstas, there is a Win2000 section near the bottom.02:44
zcat[1] stepanstas: what drive/partition is XP on?02:44
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Nontitleoops - messup. it's actually sudo update-grub02:44
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stepanstasin xp its considered local disk c, default02:45
zcat[1] cflcm_: change the on-insert commant for CD's to "killall -0 grip || grip" and it will only run grip if it isn't already running.02:45
linopil!restricted02:45
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:45
zcat[1] *command02:45
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linopil!flashplayer02:45
cflcm_zcat[1] , awesome, thank you!02:46
stepanstasw3ccv: sould i try http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38446/02:46
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RiyonukHow do I get wireless working in ubuntu?02:47
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w3ccvstepanstas, here's from my working (FC4)/W2k system  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38447/02:47
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linopilzcat[1] , you are not the same zcat from #fedora ?right?02:47
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zcat[1] linopil: nope. There's a zcat in #fedore?02:48
Nontitlestepanstas: post your grub.conf file02:48
affleack. help. I have stupidly removed lvm2 and md, thinking I had no md devices. Now I can't boot. Suggestions?02:48
linopilyep  /whois zcat to see02:48
zcat[1] affle: 'don't do that'02:48
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stepanstasnontitle: do you mean menu.lst?02:48
afflezcat[1] , ty. Now what?02:48
alex_ I am playing a DVD with kaffeine but am unable to get subtitles ? How can I get them ?02:48
w3ccvstepanstas, don't copy anything from the FC4 section - make sure your Ubuntu stuff is untouched.  And if you edit with Emacs, get rid of the menu.lst~ file.02:48
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zcat[1] affle: ummmm...02:49
Nontitleyeah02:49
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afflezcat[1] , the partition is still there, I can mount it with a rescue disk, but it still won't boot.02:49
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linopil!flash02:49
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pfaftlecan somebody please help a linux noob with an install issue? /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off02:50
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stepanstasw3ccv, i will try to add another one to the list, the one thats for 98, nt, 2000. i will see if it works and get back to you02:50
zcat[1] affle: I suspect you can boot to a working system using the rescue CD kernel and modules, and then reinstall the stuff you need.. but I'm not sure how.02:50
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afflezcat[1] , ok. :(02:51
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afflezcat[1] , This appears not to work.02:51
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pfaftlecan somebody please help a linux noob with an install issue? /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off02:52
stepanstasw3ccv: quick question, i forgot what the command is to edit a read only file02:52
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Stormx2stepanstas: sudo editor02:52
Stormx2stepanstas: Do you mean one owned by root (outside of your ~)02:53
Stormx2stepanstas: Editor can be anything like gedit... etc02:53
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stepanstasStormx2: im the root user02:53
Nontitlew3ccv: are you using i different version of grub or something?02:54
w3ccvstepanstas, which editor are you using02:54
Nontitleit says it's grub.conf02:54
w3ccvNontitle, here on RH there are both grub.conf and menu.lst - linked02:54
stepanstasw3ccv: which one is the easiest02:54
stepanstas?02:54
Nontitleoh you're using redhat, now i see02:55
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mborgi'm perplexed here...i'm trying to run lampp and i'm getting these two errors now: Warning: include(lang/en .php) [function.include] : failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /opt/lampp/htdocs/xampp/index.php on line 1202:55
mborgWarning: include() [function.include] : Failed opening 'lang/en .php' for inclusion (include_path='.:/opt/lampp/lib/php') in /opt/lampp/htdocs/xampp/index.php on line 1202:55
foohttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI - I just followed this, and I get this OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org from $ fglrxinfo .. so I imagine something is wrong. I did everything it said, and sudo modprobe fglrx says FATAL: Error running install command for fglrx - any ideas?02:55
Nontitlemborg: this is #ubuntu, not ##php02:55
w3ccvstepanstas, depends on what you use - using vi just save it with a w! it will ignore read only.02:55
kitchew3ccv: grub.conf hasn't been used for years actually02:55
mborgthis is true nontitle02:55
mborgmy apologies02:55
w3ccvkitche, that's what I thought02:55
pfaftlecan somebody please help a linux noob with an install issue? /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off02:55
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zcat[1] !ask | pfaftle02:56
ubotupfaftle: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)02:56
stepanstasw3ccv: does the same apply for the text editor02:56
linopil!java02:56
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository02:56
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w3ccvI only use Emacs - or vi if I'm despirate02:57
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Stormx2stepanstas: You're running as root? O_O why?02:57
zcat[1] does w! ignore owned-by-root ?02:57
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pfaftlewell, ok then XD02:57
stepanstasstormx2: i am the only user on the comp02:57
slickyfoo: hm, seams strange..  have you got a clean install?02:57
BiNz!w02:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about w - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:57
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pfaftlei get /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off when i try to boot into ubuntu for the first time after install02:58
ruscoekmHi.  I am trying to sync a Palm T2 to Evolution running on 6.10 with all updates installed.  gpilotd (I assume) successfully creates the /dev/pilot device and the sync has completed a couple of times.  Almost always though, it appears to hang.  Any thoughts?02:58
Stormx2!lamp | mborg02:58
ubotumborg: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)02:58
linopilHello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Macromedia's Flash Player. Get the latest flash player.02:58
linopilwhat is free java02:58
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pfaftlei get /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off when i try to boot into ubuntu for the first time after install... how do i fix this?02:58
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stepanstasw3ccv: if i was to use the text editor, so i just put a ! after the name, i thought there was a way to do it through terminal02:59
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avalon!xfree8602:59
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xfree86 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:59
Nontitlestepanstas: add this to the end of your menu.lst file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38450/02:59
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fooslicky: yes.02:59
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pfaftlei get /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off when i try to boot into ubuntu for the first time after install... how do i fix this?02:59
MrSprouthow do i check my kernel version?03:00
avalonGrr.. looks like a last shot for me would be to do a Debian install.. but I don't wanna get rid of Ubuntu03:00
dgunnMrSprout, uname -a03:00
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w3ccvstepanstas, vi is the only editor I know that allows writing to a read-only file.03:00
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Nontitlevi can write to a read-only file?03:00
zcat[1] pfaftle: what kind of hardware are you installing on?03:00
dgunnWhen I change my resolution (by removing modes in xorg.conf) it doesnt have any effect03:00
kitcheavalon: ubuntu uses xorg just like debian does, what's your problem?03:01
MrSproutCould someone guide me through getting my nvidia drivers installed?03:01
w3ccvstepanstas, other editors are strangers to me - don't use them, never have (probably never will)03:01
stepanstasnontile: will do as soon as i access the non read only03:01
dgunnWhen I change my resolution (by removing modes in xorg.conf) it doesnt have any effect.. any idea why??03:01
w3ccvNontitle, yes   w!03:01
stepanstasw3ccv: where is vi?03:01
dgunnMrSprout, install automatix03:01
avalonI need xfree86 kitche, it's pretty much the last hope for my touchscreen03:01
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dgunnMrSprout, then add nvidia drivers.. worked for me03:01
MrSproutdgunn, will that get me the latest ones?03:01
w3ccvstepanstas, you'd find it faster to chmod the file than try to learn vi03:01
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pfaftlei get /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off when i try to boot into ubuntu for the first time after install... could someone guide me through how to fix this?03:01
MrSproutIt's quite important they're the latest ones.03:01
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dgunnMrSprout, dont know ifits the latest but it worked for me03:02
kitcheavalon: then you will have to compile it by hand that's the only way that I know that you can even ususe it since not many distros have packages for it03:02
vookquestion: something (acpid, gnome-power-management, ??) is causing my laptop to use the battery as the power source after it is fully charged.  Considering lithium ion batteries only have so many recharge cycles in their life, how can I go about forcing the laptop to run off of AC power while still keeping the battery in the computer?03:02
stepanstasw3ccv: the problem is, i dont know aht chmod is either03:02
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dgunnWhen I change my resolution (by removing modes in xorg.conf) it doesnt have any effect.. any idea why??03:02
yurimxpxmanhey guys, I could use some help here setting up my D-Link DWL-G122 wireless USB adapter.. could someone please help a brother out? :)03:02
avalonSounds fun kitche03:02
avalonIs it much different from xorg?03:02
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pfaftlei get /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off when i try to boot into ubuntu for the first time after install... could someone guide me through how to fix this?03:03
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w3ccvstepanstas,   cd /boot/grub ; ls -l menu.lst ;#remember the permissions now; chmod 700 menu.lst03:03
fooHow can I add an nfs mount to /etc/fstab?03:03
zcat[1] pfaftle: what kind of hardware are you installing on? (the problem is WAY before you get this message, the system is failing to load at all and falling through to a minimal shell)03:03
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fooThe UUID stuff is throwing me off.03:03
w3ccvstepanstas, when you're finished editing , chmod back to what you were to remember.03:03
dgunnfoo, search google groups on that.. ive seen that a million times03:03
yurimxpxmananybody here know anything about using wireless adapters in ubuntu? I'm stuck03:03
chimaeragtk themes dun seem to work on a fresh edgy! it looks really wierd... same theme works fine on dapper upgraded to edgy03:04
stepanstasw3ccv: i hate not understanding one thing you just said03:04
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foodgunn: :/ There better be a good reason for UUID.03:04
n2diypfaftle, if you can't get to a terminal, you don't have a chance of fix anything, other re-install.03:04
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pfaftlezcat: its a toshiba portege 3480ct03:04
dgunnfoo, what is UUID?03:04
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foo# grep UUID /etc/fstab03:04
fooUUID=1bde41c5-a1ef-4cc0-8f59-12cffba6187c /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       103:04
foodgunn: ^03:05
avalonAside from Canoical, is there any pay site I could contact to get one time support for a problem?03:05
yurimxpxmanc'mon... anybody know anything about wireless adapters? I need help :(03:05
w3ccvstepanstas, the first was the commands to make the file writable03:05
vookyurimxpxman: can you get the modules installed?03:05
chimaeracan anyone get gtk theme to work on fresh edgy? it looks really wierd... same theme works fine on dapper upgraded to edgy03:05
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Lifehow do i unmount?03:05
fooLife: umount03:05
yurimxpxmanvook: well, I used ndiswrapper to install the driver and it's showing up in the network devices, but I still can't connect to the internet.03:05
Lifety03:05
stepanstasw3ccv: so that goes in terminal?03:05
vookyurimxpxman: what happens if you type 'iwlist scanning' ?03:06
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pfaftlezcat: its a toshiba portege 3480ct, p3 60003:06
vookyurimxpxman: or better 'iwlist scanning | grep ESSID'03:06
Khisanthfoo: you can still use host:/path mountpoint nfs options ...03:06
fooKhisanth: Ok, so I don't need UUID. :/03:06
chimaeracan anyone get gtk theme to work on fresh edgy? it looks really wierd... same theme works fine on dapper upgraded to edgy03:07
yurimxpxmanvook: I get ESSID:"default"03:07
zcat[1] pfaftle: not famililar with it; are there any earlier errors about failing to find root, or similar?03:07
Khisanthfoo: I don't think you can for NFS :)03:07
pfaftlezcat: it comes up while trying to find/load root03:07
FirstStrikeit seems that sine i installed the crossover beta..it wants to take care of running everything flash, instead of letting the flash plugin handle flash03:08
w3ccvstepanstas,  sri, but if you don't understand commands, better have someone that does - or you could loose the entire system. There should be a *nix geek inthe neighborhood that would like to earn a beer.03:08
vookyurimxpxman: ok, that's good, it means your wireless card is working, and finding the wireless network 'default' (typical of netgear routers (I think))03:08
zcat[1] pfaftle: I had a similar issue with a DL360 server.. this kind of problem can be a bitch to solve..03:08
FirstStrikeand now everything flash won't load >_>03:08
vookyurimxpxman: what is the name of the interface?03:08
pfaftlezcat: any ideas??03:08
vookyurimxpxman: ie. eth1 wlan0, etc...03:08
yurimxpxmanvook: wlan003:08
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vookyurimxpxman: ok, type 'iwconfig wlan0 essid default' then type 'dhclient wlan0'03:09
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pfaftlezcat: or should i just try another distro?03:09
raknamhow do i upgrade from breezy badger to the latest release without reinstallation?03:09
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linopil!flash03:10
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zcat[1] pfaftle: yeah, problem is likely that it's either failed to install a module it requires to access root, or is getting confused about where the root filesystem is supposed to be.  You probably need to get some hands-on help from your local LUG, or prepare to learn way more than you ever wanted to know about initrd and stuff via IRC...03:10
vookyurimxpxman: make sure you have no other network adapters enabled (unless you are planing on creating a linux router (i.e. ifconfig eth0 down)03:10
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yurimxpxmanvook: Doing that, I no longer get the "Server not found" message, but it continuingly says "Connecting to ..."03:10
yurimxpxmanvook: no other adapters are enabled03:10
vookyurimxpxman: can you ping 4.2.2.103:10
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pfaftlezcat: i'm willing to learn ^^03:10
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zcat[1] pfaftle: another distro might work better. Or it might have the same issue. I guess it's worth trying03:10
rubix_i cannot start x at all..i think i may have a driver issue, it just turns into a black screen03:11
stepanstasw3ccv: i once edited the file, all i had to do was type in a command or something, but i forget what it was03:11
yurimxpxmanvook: yes, I can03:11
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stepanstasw3ccv: that was easy for me03:11
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zcat[1] pfaftle: I'm not willing to teach :) I had enough trouble just getting my own server sorted and I lack patience03:11
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pfaftlezcat: lol, fair enough :)03:12
vookyurimxpxman: 4.2.2.1 is a public dns server, essid default probably has a funky DNS setting.  Easy.  type 'killall dhclient' and then 'killall dhclient3' now edit the file /etc/resolv.conf and change the nameserver to 4.2.2.103:12
pfaftlezcat: just completed another install, see what happens :S03:12
ruscoekmRe my sync question above, I also tried using /dev/ttyUSB1 rather than /dev/pilot (as described at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77387&highlight=palm+evolution ) but this made no difference.03:12
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zcat[1] pfaftle: If you're using SATA, setting it up in bios to emulate plain ATA might solve the problem.03:13
pfaftlezcat: no sata03:13
zcat[1] raid?03:13
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pfaftlenope03:13
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vookyurimxpxman: dhclient and dhclient3 have a way of stay alive in the background and it really just causes problems (when using a different dns server).  Now, make a script using all of the commands you have typed starting with iwconfig wlan0 essid default.  The first line of the script should be '#!/bin/bash'03:13
zcat[1] hmmm.. no easy fixes today :(03:13
pfaftle:(03:14
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mardihi, i have a fairly fresh install of edgy and i don't have any sound, i've looked at alsamixer and all seems well, any help?03:14
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yurimxpxmanvook: one moment.. I'm still trying to edit the .conf file03:14
vookyurimxpxman: make the script executable with 'chmod 0700 script' and the move it to /usr/sbin with 'mv script /usr/sbin'.  Then, in the future, always enable your wireless using 'sudo /usr/sbin/script' (or whatever).03:14
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zcat[1] mardi: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp .. It should hiss, or give you an error message.03:15
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mardizcat[1] , trying it now, thanks03:15
fooKhisanth: Ok, I don't know what a UUID. It's an edgy thing.03:16
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pfaftlezcat: ok, just got same thing, before it does the whole /bin/sh thing, it says ALERT! /dev/hda1 does not exist. dropping to a shell03:16
Khisanthfoo: man fstab :)03:16
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fooKhisanth: eh, why is it needed? It sounds like it just complicates linux. And, well, we don't need any more of that.03:16
mardizcat[1] , yes, i have hissing03:16
zcat[1] mardi: cool. problem solved :)03:16
rubix_hello I cannot get my graphics card drivers to work does anyone have any ideas (nvidia gf3ti200 agp (just switched from nvidia card and all work fine til i reboot, and ubuntu 6.10 edgy) I am in really basic x right now03:17
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yurimxpxmanwhat's the name of the gnome file explorer? I can't remember at the moment.. :?03:17
rubix_whats the command to reconfigure a driver?03:17
Khisanthfoo: actually the reason for it is to solve the problem pfaftle seems to be having :)03:17
pfaftlezcat: ok, just got same thing, before it does the whole /bin/sh thing, it says ALERT! /dev/hda1 does not exist. dropping to a shell03:17
userundefinenautilus03:17
yurimxpxmanty03:17
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Khisanthfoo: are you using SATA drives?03:18
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gnix_oagnautilus03:18
rubix_i can't even really use xchat or anything because i can't display it03:18
fooKhisanth: No03:18
linopilhttps://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html#id2542844 FYI realplayer here has a bad link03:18
avalonFound what's probably the problem with my touchscreen.. but no clue how to fix it03:18
zcat[1] pfaftle: somewhere before that is your problem. The install CD is doing something that puts the target drive at hda1. But the installed kernel and initrd isn't doing the same thing.03:18
yurimxpxmanvook: this dang thing doesn't seem to want to open gedit or nautilus so I can edit that file03:19
rubix_is it sudo dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg by any chance?03:19
LaserLineAfter i installed the nvidia drivers (via apt-get) and then enabled them my system freezes03:19
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pfaftlezcat: would it make any difference if i used the 386 kernel?03:19
mardizcat[1] , still a problem i think, when i try to play a .wav with aplay i get "ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:862:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave03:19
mardiaplay: main:547: audio open error: Device or resource busy03:19
mardi"03:19
mardieek03:20
avalonA cat /dev/input has revealed that that event 1 is my keyboard, event 2 is my mouse, event0 doesn't respond. TS0, which I'm assuming should be my touchscreen is actually my mouse, or at least it seems because it only displays text when I move the mouse. What gives?03:20
vookyurimxpxman: just go to the terminal and type 'sudo bash'  then use nano to edit the file, or type 'echo nameserver 4.2.2.1 > /etc/resolv.conf'03:20
zcat[1] pfaftle: possibly a missing module. Possibly things getting loaded in a different order. You kinda need to track down what's different and make it 'not different'. That's the hard part :)03:20
Khisanthpfaftle: that seems slightly odd, if that is a SATA drive it should be /dev/sda1 ...03:20
vookyurimxpxman: it's doubtful that you need a search domain.03:20
rubix_how do you reconfigure your x server?03:20
pfaftlekhisanth: nope ATA drive.03:20
zcat[1] mardi: ahh.. tricky.03:21
yurimxpxmanvook: alright, I ran the echo command. Now what?03:21
zcat[1] pfaftle: This is a very weird problem to see on a plain ATA drive....03:21
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Khisanthhrm I was adding an extra comma in your reply :)03:21
vookyurimxpxman: that should be it, try to ping a domain name.03:21
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pfaftlekhisanth: any idea on how to overcome it?03:22
Khisanthpfaftle: made sure the IDE/power is properly plugged in? does the drive show up in the bios?03:22
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vookyurimxpxman: keep in mind that if this isn't your wifi access point, you may have to fuss with the location of the usb device to get the best signal03:22
kitcherubix_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:22
pfaftlekhisanth: all is good in bios and power to hdd03:22
zcat[1] pfaftle: normally you'd only see this with sata or raid systems, where nonstandard modules get loaded. I'd check in BIOS and see if there are any options relating to SATA, and just mess with them until you get a settingthat boots :)03:23
yurimxpxmanvook: well, I was able to ping google.com, but firefox still isn't loading web pages.. I'm gonna check the proxy settings03:23
Khisanthpfaftle: what were you doing before this started happening?03:23
mardizcat[1] , is something else using the sound server maybe? is there a way i can restart it? i've tried doing /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart but it didn't help03:23
kitcheyurimxpxman: try turning off ipv6 if you haven't done so already03:23
vookyurimxpxman: close firefox and reload it and try again.03:23
kitche!ipv6|yurimxpxman03:23
ubotuyurimxpxman: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv403:23
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Couragewho can help me? Ubuntu install from HD with a ISO files.03:23
pfaftlekhisanth: just installed edgy, trying to boot it for first time03:23
avalonAlright, correct me if I'm wrong, but if I sudo cat a device, and use the device, I should see garbled junk, right?03:23
vookyurimxpxman: sometimes that works03:23
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zcat[1] mardi: perhaps. I'll leave this one to someone more familiar with sound than me...03:24
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stepanstasIs there anyone here who can tell me a way to edit menu.lst using sudo -l /boot/grub/menu.lst or something like that (i am really new at this)03:24
mardizcat[1] , ahh ok, thanks anyways :)03:24
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affleavalon, usually, I think.03:24
zcat[1] afk....03:24
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avalonBecause I tried that with everything I have, and it works on my keyboard and mouse, but I get nothing when I try to use the touchscreen03:25
pfaftlekhisanth: just installed edgy, trying to boot it for first time03:25
rukuarticHey there, I'm wondering how I can stop Xorg from timing out and going blank, making the user juggle the mouse to get it going again.03:25
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johojaim having huge problems iwth ubuntu!03:26
johojajust happened today.03:26
johojais their a way to check whichi packages were installed in an update03:26
affleavalon, well, the touchscreen driver module may not be loaded.03:26
johojai want to try and roll back and see if that fixes it.03:26
affleavalon, there are several.03:26
yurimxpxmanI disabled ipv6 and restarted FF but it still won't load google03:26
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avalonI've tried pretty much every one of them and none of them work with my usb connection03:26
linopilamarok cant play smb URls03:27
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affleavalon, Do you know for sure that your touchscreen is supported?03:27
linopilsmb://pc1/MUSIC/MANU_CHAO_CLANDESTINO_224KBPS_S/BONGO_BONG.MP3 why ?03:27
johojaanyone ?03:27
affleavalon, Also, are you sure of the device connected to your touch screen?03:27
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stepanstasis there a command in terminal similar to -l /boot/grub/menu.lst that can actualy edit menu.lst (make it not read only)03:27
avalonNot at all. I'm trying to bootleg a generic device if you will. I'm positive it's connected, and that the computer its connected to is good, and so is the cable03:27
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vookyurimxpxman: hmm, well, if you are able to ping google, then the wifi is working.  The signal may be weak though ??  That or something could be blocking tcp packets from reaching you (ping is ICMP).03:28
avalonI've found a driver specifically built for dapper, but I get some weird xorg error when I try to use it03:28
linopilstepanstas, sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst   ? maybe ?03:28
johojai get a softlockup cpu#0 on bootup , and i dont have a wireless card but it seems to be related to my netowrk card (03:28
johojamaybe a update did it, but im not sure how to see recently installed updates03:28
johojais their a way to do that ?03:29
zcat[1] stepanstas: sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.list  should work (the problem isn't that it's read only, the problem is you don't own the file)03:29
vookyurimxpxman: make sure you don't have a firewall blocking incoming tcp.  Also, if this isn't your access point, keep in mind that the owner can set the device to offer out IP addresses but only service certain ones.03:29
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fooKhisanth: Did that have something to do with it?03:29
yurimxpxmanvook: When I try to access a page, it says "Connecting to www.google.com..." but never makes it past that. The wireless works on the laptop just fine. Could it have to anything to do with the proxy that came with my version of Ubuntu? (Christian Edition)03:29
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stepanstaslinopil: that worked, thanks03:29
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linopil!flash03:29
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:29
yurimxpxmanvook: this is my access point03:29
Khisanthfoo: "that"?03:29
avalonAny idea affle03:29
avalon?03:29
fooKhisanth: SATA..03:29
affleavalon, well, I would expect that you'd have more luck trying to get the driver working rather than going some generic route.03:30
stepanstaszcat[1] : is there a way that i could just edit all the read files without the editro03:30
linopilyou most welcome03:30
affleavalon, this is a usb device, you say?03:30
johojaanyone...? :(03:30
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stepanstaslinopil: how do i save my changes?03:30
Khisanthfoo: ignore that it was misdirected :)03:30
fooKhisanth: ohh03:30
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rukuarticjohoja: Well if you can get a terminall... I think you can. Hold up03:30
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affleavalon, which device do you think it's connected to and what does the last few lines of the command dmesg say after you connect the device?03:30
vookyurimxpxman: ooh, yes, it could.  check the proxy settings in firefox.  tools > settings > advanced > network > settings03:31
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vookyurimxpxman: oops, not tools03:31
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avalonWell.. /dev/input/ts0 would make the most sense to me, I'll list dmesg as soon as I get it. BRB03:31
fierceHey all.. this is gonna sound very stupid, but, I clicked an .ogg file, and its playing it now in KDE, but apparently in NO application.. no XMMS opened up or anything, nothing in the taskbar, and I can't stop the bloody thing from playing :D03:31
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yurimxpxmanvook: I set FF's proxy to direct connection to the internet. With this setting, could my proxy still affect FF or not?03:32
vookyurimxpxman: edit > preferences > advanced > network > settings03:32
rukuarticjohoja: If you do "ls -lt /var/cache/apt/03:32
rukuarticjohoja: Sorry03:32
LoRezfierce: lsof /dev/dsp or whatever your audio dev is.03:32
afflejohoja, there is a log for it, just a sec.03:32
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rukuarticjohoja: If you do "ls -lt /var/cache/apt/archives" it should show the most recent packages sorted by date03:32
zimhi all03:32
rukuarticjohoja: but affle's response is probably better03:32
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avalonusb 1-2: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 7.03:32
zcat[1] LoRez: might not help if the player uses arts, only arts will have /dev/dsp open...03:32
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zimjust a quick Q what do i install to see mov wmv mp3 etc03:33
zcat[1] arts or esd..03:33
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fierceno results03:33
fiercefrom that command03:33
fierce:(03:33
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afflejohoja, /var/log/dpkg.log /var/log/aptitude show package related actions03:33
LoRezzcat[1] : yeah, I know, but it's a start.03:33
vookyurimxpxman: I'm not sure honestly.  type 'telnet google.com 80'  If it let's you in, the problem is in firefox.03:33
zcat[1] sudo fuser -k /dev/dsp  tends to clear things up quite nicely :)03:33
johojaokay, its weird, it wont load up with one kernel 2.6.18, i think, but if i try with another one an oldoer one it works, but..the older ones have other roblmems like i cant get my sound to work on it eventhough its audigy and...my graphics driver wont install for some reason no idea hwats going on..03:33
kurrhey how do i move folders? i want to move a folder on my desktop to my /hdb503:33
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fiercezcat[1] : that didnt fix it!03:34
fiercethe damn thing is still going, haha03:34
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zcat[1] owww. that should kill off just about anything playing...03:34
fierceits still going full blast03:34
yurimxpxmanvook: how long would that normally take? It says trying but I think it's frozen just like FF was03:35
zcat[1] bet it can't last a reboot though :)03:35
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rukuartickurr: hdb5 isn't actually a "folder" per se... its a symbolic reference to your 5th partition on your 1st hard drive03:35
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fiercezcat[1] :Hahaha, ya, i bet it cant03:35
affleavalon, well, I'd poke around /dev/bus/usb and see how that matches the messages, ie. 1-2 or address 7.03:35
fierceokay i guess ill reboot03:35
fiercethanks anyways guys03:35
rukuartickurr: What you can do is type "mount" to see where /dev/hda5 is mounted, and then put it in that folder.03:35
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stepanstaszcat[1] : i used sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.list, to save changes, what do i do?03:35
afflejohoja, I've seen bits of stuff about the very latest kernels having problems....03:35
zimis there a link to a howto to get movie and music formats working mp3 wmv mov mpeg................... etc03:35
vookyurimxpxman: should connect immediately.  yeah, if you have a proxy, I don't know what to do for you.  I'm not familiar with that breed of Ubuntu.03:35
zcat[1] stepanstas: ctrl-X and tell it yes03:35
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johojaaffle:  but i've been using htis one for a fedw months now without any problems03:36
rukuarticstepanstas: Whenever you see ^(some character) it means control+that character.03:36
stepanstaszcat[1] :thanks03:36
zackhey, does anybody know how to make ubuntu share a host name throughout the LAN?03:36
yurimxpxmanvook: alright. I may download the regular version of Ubuntu when I have time. That must be the problem. Thanks :)03:36
avalonHmm.. that makes no sense.. ls /dev/bus/usb03:36
avalonI get this03:36
vookyurimxpxman: you bet!03:36
johojaand the older ones arnet working well either...like im in2.6.17 right now, but my sounds not working etc..alsa wont start up and doesnt give an error03:36
rukuarticzack: how do you mean?03:36
avalon001/ 002/ 003/ 004/ 005/03:36
afflejohoja, but you recently upgraded packages, right? if one of those involved an update of your initrd files, it could mess things up.03:36
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zackfor example, I want to type 'somethinorother' instead of '192.168.1.x'03:37
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johojadoenst look like ne thing signifact thoguh03:37
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rukuarticzack: Oh! Just put that into your /etc/hosts file03:37
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rukuarticzack: Just make sure to not erase the ones that are there... if you do it gets really nasty!03:37
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kurrrukuartic: ok im going to try to move it to my media folder and then go from there, but i forgot the command.. super user? or something heh03:37
zackthanks man! i've tried this with fedora core 5 but it was just stupid :-S03:37
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affleavalon, ok, those are some of the buses or sub-busses or maybe devices. Inside of one of those will be a device that should correspond to your touchscreen.03:37
johojaaffle: http://pastebin.com/843541 those are the last couple doenst look like ne thing important though that woudl do this03:38
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affleavalon, start catting if you can't figure out which one.03:38
rukuartickurr: Probably "mv"... you might need to use "sudo" to move the files if you don't "own" the directory... "sudo mv file1 file2 file3 /some/directory"03:38
sheridoes totem have wmv support03:38
rukuartic!wmv03:38
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rukuarticthere ya go sheri, read what ubotu said.03:39
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ubotuYum!03:39
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zack@rukuartic - actually, i remember now why i had a problem - my IP addresses on the LAN are set by DHCP from my router, and i want it to stay that way... so how can i get the host to publish new changes?03:39
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afflejohoja, do you reboot regularly? 'cause if you haven't rebooted in several weeks, it could be any updated packages during that time period.03:39
mewshii need help picking a good ftp client to use.  I only need to serve a few people, and tat's it03:39
rukuarticzack: I think you'd need to run a DNS server for that :P03:39
johojaaffle: i do :)03:39
rukuarticmewshi: Client, or server?03:40
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johojaaffle: at least once a day03:40
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zcat[1] mewshi: teach your clients to use scp or sftp ..03:40
afflejohoja, hrm.03:40
rukuarticzcat[1] : I think he wanted a server.03:40
chabhey03:40
mardithanks for the help, cya!03:40
kurrrukuartic: ok so i've moved this one folder to my /media, but i cant seem o find out how to move it to the hdb5 still03:40
chabanyone can tell me how to enable multicore support on edgy03:40
zackrukuartic: lol, i should have known that! Arrgggh... sooo, anywhere i can find a good guide on this?03:40
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zcat[1] yeah.. but with only a few clients he should probably use scp rather than ftp anyhow.03:41
johojaaffle: dmesg, says [17182833.148000]  eth0: Promiscuous mode enabled, not sure why...thats probably causing it.03:41
rukuartickurr: Like I said, /dev/hdb5 isn't actually a directory like in windows....03:41
afflejohoja, wait a sec. automatix could conceivably done something, especially if it downloaded new nvidia drivers.03:41
rukuarticzack: Heh, I don't know much about DNS... try asking around here.03:41
zcat[1] !automatix03:41
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe03:41
biotrox!mirroring03:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mirroring - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:41
afflejohoja, er, that just means that your network card is listening to all packets, not just the ones addressed to your computer. It should have anything to do with anything.03:41
PORDOman, i just bought this plantronics headset off googlestore.com, and it even says google talk on it and has the logo (bizarrely, it even has the "beta" on the logo)...and it's not USB...i didn't even think to check.03:42
mewshii need a server :\03:42
mewshisorry about that .>.>.03:42
johojaah ok03:42
afflejohoja, er, I mean shouldn't, rather.03:42
rukuartickurr: In Linux, you don't actually have hard drives, you have folders. For example... /home could be on hdb1, /media could be on hdb3, and everything else could be on hdb2.03:42
biotroxi want to do mirroring in ubuntu03:42
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rukuarticmewshi: Try ProFTPd... there's a few others too.03:42
bruenigfolders...directories03:42
zcat[1] biotrox: mirroring like raid1 or mirroring like rsync ?03:43
trixdumb q, i did ctrl+alt+f2 to go from kde to non-graphical console, and i'm not sure how to go back ;x03:43
bruenigtrix, ctrl + alt + f703:43
mewshii just want something that's easy to set up, like the filezilla server :/03:43
chabwhat the hell they removed it from ubuntuguide03:43
trixbruenig: <303:43
kitchetrix: alt+f703:43
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rukuarticmewshi: ProFTPd's not TOO difficult... all its configuration files can be found in /etc03:43
bruenigtrix, f1-6 are tty's, 7 is your graphical stuff03:44
afflejohoja, yah, I'd definitely look at the automatix.03:44
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rukuarticmewshi: If you need help though, there's always people in here :)03:44
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zackok, so here's the question: how do i set up a dns server on my ubuntu machine which will provide dns services for a network which receives dhcp from a router?03:44
johojaaffle: i didnt run it though.03:44
trixyea, for some reason i thought it would be f1 =] 03:44
kurrrukuartic: k i got it to work thanks03:44
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zcat[1] zack: sudo apt-get install bind903:44
afflejohoja, dunno then.03:45
chab!help03:45
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chab!multicore03:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about multicore - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:45
zack@zcat: i heard that some people preferred djbdns?03:45
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afflejohoja, I don't know what it does upon installation. I don't use it personally.03:45
zcat[1] zack: why?!!03:45
johojaaffle: it donest do net hing till u run it03:45
johojahrm..03:45
johojaany idea why my sound would'nt be working ?03:46
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zackzcat: they seemed to think it had better security and provided easier zone management03:46
zackthough i think it doesn't matter too much03:46
afflejohoja, have you looked at the post-inst and pre-inst and post-remove scripts?03:46
zacki'll try bind03:46
e5_motorola v3 tryintg to connect can see it in device list but no connection by softeare03:46
zcat[1] haha, no idea. I've only ever used bind03:46
johojawell actually03:46
johojaautomatix i dindt install03:46
johojatill after all this happened03:46
afflezack, I use powerdns. I like it. But that's just me. MyDNS has a strong following.03:46
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johojai got into terminal , and did a sudo apt-update/upgrade hoping i had a common problema nd af ix would be out03:47
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johojaand only automatix installed so no way it caused it.03:47
rukuarticaffle: What exactly can you do with a DNS server?03:47
zcat[1] default bind9 config is I think a fairly standard caching server.. you can go ahead and add to it if you want03:47
zackaffle: ah well, bind is already installed, i may as well see how it works03:47
afflerukuartic, host your own domain, manage your own mx records, manage subdomains easily, i.e.: foo.bar.this.is.my.host.com03:48
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zcat[1] You'll have to reconfigure your dhcp server to tell the clients about it too...03:48
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zackzcat: the one on my router?03:48
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johojagonna reboot03:48
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zcat[1] yeah, that one.03:48
bert_hey all, Should Ubuntu come with the 3c589 module?03:48
rukuarticaffle: Like I could host my own .com website?03:48
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rukuarticaffle: Without registering the .com?03:48
zcat[1] rukuartic: no.03:49
afflerukuartic, er, yah, but only if other people used you as their DNS server, which most don't, so not really.03:49
rukuarticrats. Well what coudl I do?03:49
rukuarticlol I figured... submit to opendns?03:49
afflerukuartic, manage subdomains and mx records03:49
fooI am trying to install ati driver on ubuntu edgy. I did this - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI. But, it's not working.fglrxinfo |grep -i radeon returns nothing. Any ideas?03:49
zackzcat: the dynamic domain name system on my router? it's asking for a dyndns server, but the Ip is prone to change :-S03:49
zcat[1] rukuartic: but you can set up hostnames like 'foo.mynetwork' and use them within your network03:49
rukuarticzcat[1] : Aww but thats only in my network. Now what if I did go and register a domain?03:50
PORDOi'm trying to get the mic input working on my plantronics headset (not usb).  i've turned the mic on in alsamixer but i don't think it's actually working.03:50
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PORDOwhat's a good tool to test it?03:50
zcat[1] rukuartic: If you register a domain, they'll want nameservers.03:50
PORDOmaybe something that lights up to show the volume as i speak...03:50
afflerukuartic, then you could set up dns records for foo.mydomain.com and bar.mydomain.com Nice if you want to set up host names for members of your family or departments of your company, etc.03:50
rukuarticaffle: Aha.03:51
Lunar_Lampzack, you need to register at dyndns - then your router will send your ip to your dyndns account on their website - and they will act as a dns server that will link your chosen dyndns url to your ip.03:51
misterjhey there... I'm using Dapper and I've installed wuftpd so that I can remotely connect via ftp, and when I check services it's enabled, but any attempt to connect (even from a local terminal) is refused. Any one know what I'm doing wrong?03:51
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rukuarticzack, Lunar_Lamp I like no-ip03:51
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zimhey all is there a howto to install restricted formats ie: mov wmv etc03:51
bert_hey all, Should Ubuntu come with the 3c589 module? I am having problems getting a PCMCIA nic to pickup an IP03:51
zcat[1] misterj: yeah. Firest mistake was installing wu-anything.03:51
rukuartic!restrictedformats > zim03:51
rukuartic!wmv >zim03:51
Pie-rateI have a game that screws up the gamma when it crashes, how could i reset the desktop gamma to normal? right now i have to start the game and close it to reset that03:52
zimty03:52
rukuarticOh sorry zim, didn't mean to messague you twice.03:52
zimnp03:52
zimty03:52
zacklunar_lamp: all i want is to publish host names for several machines in my LAN, not outside...03:52
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misterjzcat: Well, I also tried proftpd... there's a suggestion on the ftpd package to use one of those.03:52
zackplus i'm behind a private IP address, no public IP for me :(03:52
misterj(proftpd does the same)03:52
rukuarticzack: Not if you portforward!03:52
bert_zack: what about using your hosts file?03:52
afflebert_, It should03:53
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zackagain, my router uses DHCP and i want to keep it that way03:53
zcat[1] misterj: I'd suggest installing ssh server (apt-get install ssh) and using scp or sftp on the clients (scp is already installed in most distros, use WinSCP if they're windows)03:53
bert_affle: crap, any idea why that module wouldn't be installed? and is there anyway I can install it without a network connection? :)03:53
Lunar_Lampzack, I want to do the exact same thing as you!03:53
zackthough, would it be better to turn my linux machine into a dhcp router? though that opens up a whole new can of worms for me with the second virtual lan i have...03:53
rukuarticzack: If you want a more "permanantly" accessable computer, You can use DHCP AND statics... I have my server set to static, but the rest uses dhcp03:54
afflebert_, What does it say when you try to load the module?03:54
zcat[1] misterj: ftp is inherently insecure, and software from wu is notorious for having security issues.03:54
bert_affle: Module not found or something close03:54
afflebert_, er, you mean install Ubuntu? or the driver?03:54
bert_affle: the driver sorry03:54
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darkmattercoz_,http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/19664221/?qo=6&q=heylove&qh=boost%3Apopular+age_sigma%3A24h+age_scale%3A5 and http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/44085310/?qo=39&q=heylove&qh=boost%3Apopular+age_sigma%3A24h+age_scale%3A5 and http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/13819141/?qo=48&q=heylove&qh=boost%3Apopular+age_sigma%3A24h+age_scale%3A503:54
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afflebert_, the driver should be called: 3c589_cs03:54
zackrukuartic: right, that sounds sorta ok to me03:54
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afflebert_, what happens when you do a "sudo modprobe 3c589_cs"?03:55
misterjhey ZCat, I do need to connect from a windows machine and for the particular work I'm doing I really need to use the Wndows Explorer GUIunfortunately so I'm stuck with regular FTP.03:55
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bert_affle: So should I then do a modprobe 3c589_cs?03:55
rukuarticzack: heh its pretty great! you can set that up in /etc/network or something03:55
bert_affle: ah :)03:55
afflebert_, basically.03:55
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bert_affle: let me get the laptop and give that one a try03:55
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zackbut i have a hard drive which is connected by the network only and it publishes its name anyway!03:55
rukuarticzack: Yeah, /etc/network/interfaces03:55
afflebert_, of course, this should be autodetected and loaded. You may have problems with your pcmcia setup.03:55
zcat[1] misterj: damn. OK. I'd still avoid wuftpd anyhow...03:55
tom_hey guys i've got a bunch of images, in all sorts of wierd subdirectories, anyone kknow a way to move them all into one directory?03:56
ranceI need some help with a sound card detection problem, I HAVE read the standard ubuntu sound help pages that the ubot spits out, but no avail.  I have read that there is a bug in the alsa module that improperly detects the features of the sound card, but for the record the right module IS loaded, can someone give me a hand, or at least a more informative pointer than the standard sound helps, cause they dont help any more03:56
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rukuarticmisterj: You can run openssh-server and install "WinSCP" which lets you do secure FTP (sftp) with a gui03:56
zcat[1] misterj: people need to upload stuff or just grab files?03:56
compilerwriter2shell script tom_03:56
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afflemisterj, filezilla is also a nice ssh supporting wingui.03:57
bert_affle: The card is detected fine but it won't grap and IP from my DHCP server nor will it ping out when I specify an IP03:57
afflebert_, do you have a link light?03:57
zackthe thing is, when i look at my DHCP Clients in DD-WRT (I have a linksys WRT54GL), the hard drive has a host name, and so does the windows computer! but my computer simply doesn't03:57
bert_affle: yep, and the nic works in another computer03:57
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afflebert_, And if you unplug and re-plug the cable, does the "dmesg" command make mention of this?03:57
zackit can't be THAT hard to set up03:57
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afflebert_, and you know that the IP is a valid one?03:58
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afflebert_, one that the DHCP server would allocate?03:58
misterjzcat: I need to do some work myself that involves somewhat complex file movements... I have an idea I'm gonna try and I'll be back.03:58
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rukuarticbert_: Try this "sudo dhclient <interface name>"03:58
sytehi03:58
stepanstassomeone resently helped me with this command, can you tell me what the word starting with n is?  sudo n... /boot/grub/menu.lst03:58
zackrukuartic: thanks, btw, i'll try a single static IP though if i can't figure this one out03:58
rancezack: the dhcp client is not set up by defaut to send a hostname, you need to set it up to do that, as some dhcp servers REQUIRE a host name first, Windoze always sends the hostname with the dhcp address03:58
rukuarticstepanstas: "nano"03:58
afflestepanstas, nano03:58
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rukuarticzack: Its not too difficult. Give me a yell if you need help.03:58
bert_affle: yes the IP is valid, I'll have to check the dmesg03:58
stepanstasrukuartic: thanks a lot, i can never remember03:59
rukuarticzack: I could send you my /etc/network/interfaces if you want03:59
rukuarticstepanstas: No problem :303:59
zackcool, ta03:59
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bert_affle: the laptop is just coming up now03:59
zackum, how?03:59
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zack...nvm :)03:59
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zcat[1] misterj: seriously, if it's on the open internet I would look at scp/WinSCP. If it's on a LAN samba might be the easiest option.03:59
zackrance: how do i set it up so that this machine sends a hostname with its IP?04:00
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rukuarticzcat[1] : Bah I don't think he's worrying about being attacked.04:00
sytecould someone please recommend a good book for linux commands?04:00
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timo901can any one shed some light as to whats the matter with my keyboard04:00
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rukuarticsyte: "info coreutils"04:01
zcat[1] rukuartic: nobody ever does... they just worry when the machine suddenly has a 12.0 load average and is spewing spam and DDoS everywhere...04:01
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sytety rukuartic04:01
rukuarticzcat[1] : Does it really happen that quickly?04:01
afflesyte,  I liked the "Rute User's Guide"04:01
bert_affle: I get the following messages after Listenin o LPF/eth1/<hex address>04:01
zackthanks rukuartic04:01
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syteaffle: thx man04:01
rukuarticsyte: "man <command>" will give you a comprehensive guide to any command you want to read up on.04:01
stickyickyhow do i run 'df' without all the dummy filesystems?04:01
rancezach: you need to edit your dhclient.conf, from a terminal read "man dhclient.conf" and then do a "sudo nano /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf" and restart networking (sometimes the easiest way to do that is to reboot)04:01
bert_affle: DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 pot 67 interval 304:02
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zcat[1] no, but it happens. I've had servers 0wned through wuftpd exploits. It's a pain to clean up after04:02
brunosilvahi all!04:02
syteyes, but i rather just have a manual handy. I find that easier at times04:02
bert_affle: that line continues a few times with different intervals and then says No DHCPOffers04:02
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rcrookdf -t ext304:02
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stickyickytks@!04:02
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rukuarticzcat[1] : How quickly? Were people just portscanning04:02
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afflebert_, yup, definitely not getting a response from the dhcp server.04:02
zcat[1] people are _always_ portscanning.04:03
MrSproutHow do I uninstall the official nvidia drivers via terminal?04:03
rukuarticMrSprout: "sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx"04:03
rukuarticMrSprout: Or the name of the package you installed... if you forgot try "dpkg -l | grep nvidia"04:03
rcrookapt-get remove nvidia04:03
afflebert_, Wait, why eth1? do you have two cards? is there a built-in ethernet card? what does "ifconfig" show?04:03
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bert_affle: It's got to be something to do with the laptop cause my desktop just got an IP from the same DHCP server 10 mins ago :)04:03
MrSproutand that will remove them completely?04:03
afflebert_, er "ifconfig -a"04:04
MrSproutso when I start up xserver wont fail to load.04:04
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zackthanks rance! i think this one is the ticket04:04
rukuarticMrSprout: If you're having with Xorg crashing... try "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and changing things from there.04:04
bert_affle: just the one card, I get an entry for eth1, irda0 and lo04:04
afflebert_, in other words, where's eth0?04:04
rancezach, np, glad to help04:04
afflebert_, hmm.04:04
bert_affle: hmm good question04:04
MrSproutrukuartic04:05
MrSprouti'd have no idea what to change04:05
rukuarticMrSprout: When it asks you which driver, I think you could use "vesa"04:05
rukuarticMrSprout: The default settings are there, I'm pretty sure you could just press "enter" until you're done.04:05
afflebert_, do a "sudo tcpdump -n -i eth0" and see if you see packets going by.04:05
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MrSproutok04:06
MrSproutbasically04:06
MrSproutim running a core2duo processor04:06
afflebert_, If so, you know the card is working and there's probably some other weird issue. Oh, when you set the IP manually, how did you test to see if it was working? Did you set a DNS server in /etc/resolve.conf and did you set up a default route?04:06
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afflebert_, Oh, sorry, eth1 :  do a "sudo tcpdump -n -i eth1" and see if you see packets going by.04:06
MrSproutand when I install the nvidia drivers it says it has no precompiled kernels for my processor04:07
MrSproutso it tries to compile one on the spot04:07
bert_affle: I got this message back, tcpdump: ioctl: No such device04:07
afflebert_, yah, sorry, use eth1.04:07
MrSproutand guess xorg.conf directories04:07
MrSproutwhich breaks the whole thing04:07
rukuarticMrSprout: Ouch.04:07
rukuarticMrSprout: Try this... "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"04:07
MrSproutok04:08
MrSproutthanks04:08
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bert_affle: :) alright tcpdump: WARNING: eht1 no IPv4 address assigned then goes on about listening to eth1 22:07:55.000498 IP 0.0.0.0.68> 255.255.255.255.67: BOOTP/DHCP04:09
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afflebert_, anything other than 0.0.0.0.68 packets? That's your card trying to contact the DHCP server.04:10
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luisgdonce in man grub, how can I make grub boot into windows automatically, and do so in a shorter amount of time?04:10
afflebert_, did you set up routes and dns servers when you tested with a static IP before? (dns isn't required of course unless you were trying to access a hostname)04:10
Pelocan someone give me the cli for mounting my ntfs drive  ( sda1)  in /mnt using ntfs-3g , and haveing it automount ?04:10
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zcat[1] !ntfs | pelo04:11
ubotupelo: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse04:11
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bert_affle: the line finishes with, Requests from 00:22:08:11.000688, length: 300 (that was after the BOOTP/DHCP part04:11
aabert_  8 8 604:11
Pelothanks zcat[1] 04:11
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Pelo!fuse04:12
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse04:12
CinnabelleSo... Despite several attempts, I can't install newer versions of Ubuntu... So I come to ask... Are there any reasonable alternatives? X)04:12
afflebert_, dunno 'bout that04:12
zcat[1] not sure if that covers 3g though.. it should be similar anyhow04:12
bert_affle: DNS servers for sure, routes I'm not sure of04:12
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bert_aa: sorry?04:12
afflebert_, how did you test to see if the static ip worked?04:12
cybyysomeone here knows portuguese?04:12
luisgdonce in man grub, how can I make grub boot into windows automatically, and do so in a shorter amount of time?04:12
zcat[1] luisgd: change 'default' and 'timeout' I think04:13
PeloCinnabelle,  there is an alternate install cd that is CLI you might want to give that a try04:13
bert_affle: I set the IP, subnet mask, Gateway and then tried to ping any active machine on my network and also tried to ping the laptop from a network machine04:13
luisgdthank you04:13
neurotechI have a 250GB SATA HDD here and it's currently NTFS. I want to use it as mp3/dvd storage - what should I format it as?04:13
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zcat[1] neurotech: ext3 probably.. or reiserfs ?04:13
neurotechreiserfs?04:14
luisgdhow do I make it change a setting though04:14
luisgdit won't let me type anything04:14
afflebert_, Hmm, doesn't sound good. Only other thing I can think of is to make sure that whatever the cable is plugged into is on the correct subnet. other than that, that card may not be well enough supported. dunno.04:14
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neurotech!reiserfs04:14
ubotureiserfs is a journalling file system, in benchmarks it outperforms many others on I/O operations, but they take notoriously long to mount.04:14
afflebert_, good luck, I gotta go.04:14
bert_affle: thanks for the help04:14
afflebert_, np.04:15
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luisgdhow do I change the settings in man grub?04:16
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zcat[1] Probably best to stick to ext3 for now...04:16
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Megaqwertywhat is the format with the highest compression? I don't care how long it takes to compress the files.04:16
neurotechzcat[1] , should it be primary or extended partition?04:16
Megaqwerty(i.e. zip, bz2, gz, rar, etc.)04:16
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zcat[1] I make everything primary...04:16
zcat[1] I think bz2 is usually best04:17
Megaqwertyzcat[1] : usually?04:17
zcat[1] best depends to some extent on the type of data04:17
Megaqwertyzcat[1] : I'm intrigued...what do you mean?04:17
Megaqwertywhy would they differ?04:18
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bert_anyone else have any ideas on getting my PCMCIA nic working?04:19
zcat[1] well; completely random data won't compress. Ever.  Some are optimised for certain types of data (like text or audio) and might work less well with mistures of different filetypes04:19
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luisgdso, can someone help me with my grub problems? I need to make it boot to windows automatically04:19
Megaqwertyzcat[1] : if I'm compressing video, what archive type should I use?04:19
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trinkoladeluisgd, paste your grub.conf04:20
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zcat[1] what kinds of video? divx ?04:20
luisgdwhere is that?04:20
trinkoladeluisgd, usually in /boot/grub04:20
Megaqwertyzcat[1] : all types, .swf, .wmv, .mov, .flv, .avi04:21
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luisgdit's not there04:21
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mikerobiAre usb dvd burners as well suported as IDE burners?04:21
Megaqwertyluisgd: in the terminal type "locate grub.conf" (without the quotes)04:22
MrSproutWhoever it was helping me before, you're a lifesaver04:22
CinnabellePelo: I've tried with both the normal CD and the Alternative CD, no dice :(04:22
zcat[1] Megaqwerty: best thing to do, take a sypical file and try everything on it. You'll probably find most end up being about the same.04:22
mikerobiMrSprout: It wasn't me but, I'll take credit anyway04:22
zcat[1] *typical04:22
Megaqwertyzcat[1] : okay, thanks04:22
MrSproutlol04:22
MrSproutCan someone help me install nvidia drivers that wont screw up my system?04:22
luisgdit doesn't do anything04:23
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mikerobiMrSprout: unless you have a good reason, don't bother04:23
MrSproutI do have a good reason04:23
trinkoladeluisgd, it might take a while. What does it do?04:23
luisgdnothing04:23
MrSproutI'm on a 1680x1050 monitor running at 1024x76804:23
mikerobiouch04:24
MrSproutYeah...04:24
trinkoladeluisgd, what do you see as last line in your terminal?04:24
MrSproutI cant get it higher without drivers.04:24
luisgdluis@luis-desktop:`$04:24
mikerobiMrSprout: you can trade monitors wiht me04:24
zcat[1] So it comes down to what's fastest or what's most well supported. RAR works well but is closed source and not available on all platforms. bz2 works well, is OSS and ported to everything.. I'd pick bz2.04:24
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kitcheMrSprout: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-enable then restart X and you should be good to go04:24
Cpudan80Hey everyone04:24
screechingcatI cant log into my gnome session04:24
Cpudan80got an error when running KDE apps04:24
Cpudan80Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed04:24
MrSproutkitche04:24
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trinkoladeluisgd, try "sudo locate grub.conf"04:24
MrSproutare you sure it wont ruin my kernel04:24
Cpudan80That error also comes up when running kdeinit04:24
MrSproutlike the others?04:24
luisgdit did the same thing04:25
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kitcheMrSprout: umm it won't ruin your kernel at all since it's just a module and if you use the ubuntu one it will work04:25
trinkoladeluisgd, and what does "sudo ls /boot/grub/" show?04:25
alexander_hey all, i am new to ubuntu and i got a problem: my Internet in FireFox is dead slow...04:26
alexander_any thoughts?04:26
MrSproutok04:26
Cpudan80So does anyone have any ideas about that error?04:26
MrSproutand kitche, it will work on a 7600gt?04:26
screechingcatalexander_: there are some tweaks you can do04:26
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bert_does anyone know why when I do a dmesg the last two lines tell me that device eth1 entered promiscuous mode and then device eth1 left promiscuous mode?04:26
alexander_screechingcat, like what?04:26
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screechingcatalexander_: i dont know offhand. search in www.ubuntuforums.org04:27
zcat[1] bert_: you used etherial or similar?04:27
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luisgddefault        fat_stage1_5  minix_stage1_5     stage204:27
luisgddevice.map     jfs_stage1_5  reiserfs_stage1_5  xfs_stage1_504:27
luisgde2fs_stage1_5  menu.lst      stage104:27
alexander_screechingcat, ty, ill take a look04:27
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kitcheMrSpprout it should, if it doesn't you can always get the newest driver from nvidia04:27
bert_zcat[1] : sorry you lost me04:27
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MrSproutyeah.. which broke my system04:27
MrSproutgrumble grumble04:27
MrSproutbrb04:27
zcat[1] bert_: You ran some 'packet sniffing' program recently?04:27
MrSproutand thanks kitche04:27
trinkoladeluisgd, ah, okay, okay. There's no grub.conf, right? Did you do anything with it?04:27
luisgdnope04:27
luisgdI actually just installed ubuntu04:28
_Spire_isn't menu.lst the same as grub.conf?04:28
linopilintel integrated graphics controller howto install firefox explodes everytime I come to flash site04:28
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bert_zcat[1] : nope I haven't run anything as I have never gotten the network to function yet on the laptop04:28
trinkoladeluisgd, let me see, one moment04:29
linopil_Spire_, sure04:29
_Spire_bert_: what's the problem (I just got here)04:29
bert_zcat[1] : well I ran tcpdump04:29
zcat[1] Ahh, that would be it.04:29
linopilsymlink04:29
bert__Spire: my nic will not see my network in any fashion, Static IP or DHCP04:29
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fromvegahello04:29
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zcat[1] bert_: do the lights light up?04:29
bert_zcat[1] : The one light is lit04:30
trinkoladeluisgd, there should be a menu.lst in /boot/grub/04:30
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MrSproutkitche, these drivers are labelled -38604:30
luisgdthere is04:30
luisgddo you want me to paste that here?04:30
_Spire_bert_: what's the output of dhclient3?04:30
MrSproutwhen I'm using a 686 processor04:30
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MrSproutcore 2 duo04:30
fromvegaI have installed Ubuntu Server 6.10 and now I want to install ubuntu-desktop. Can I install it from my Ubuntu Desktop 6.10 CD instead of downloading it from a repository in the internet?04:30
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MrSprouti'm not gonna lose dual core support again am I?04:30
kitcheMrSprout: i386 is i686 same thing really04:30
trinkoladeluisgd, not here. Use a paste service04:30
trinkolade!paste04:31
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:31
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zcat[1] bert_: eth1 is curious.. what's eth0 ?04:31
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_Spire_fromvega: just add your cdrom as a repository04:31
mikerobiAre USB dvd burners as well supported as IDE burners?04:31
trinkoladeluisgd, did you see?04:31
_Spire_mikerobi: should  be04:31
bert_zcat[1] : Your guess is as good as mine04:31
fromvega_Spire_: and could you tell me how do I do that?04:31
luisgdhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38463/04:32
zcat[1] bert_: try bringing it up perhaps? sudo ifup eth0 ; sudo dhclient04:32
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_Spire_fromvega: that's the part I don't know about... you should be able to copy and paste the relevant lines from a default sources.list, though04:32
bert__Spire: I get DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 804:32
_Spire_bert_: anything else?04:32
_Spire_bert_: and does it just keep doing that over and over and over?04:33
mikerobi_Spire_: Should be? As in almost all USB burners work, or should be as in most.  I have never encountered an IDE burner that doesn't work in linux04:33
FaintofheartsOk, I was attempting to get my computer to run Quake 3 recently, and in order to do that I was messing around with some visual settings with the help of a friend. Now, after a while of trying various things (Which he said should have worked, but didn't so we blamed it on the fact that he uses a different distro) I decided to give up. However, now when I watch videos with Mplayer the visual isn't as good as it wa04:33
Faintofheartss before. Anyone have any idea what I may have done?04:33
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fromvega_Spire_: ok, I'll google that. But are you sure that it will find the right package in the cdrom?04:33
trinkoladeluisgd, change the defaultentry at the very beginning to 404:33
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zcat[1] bert_: dmesg | grep eth   does it show more than one device there?04:33
trinkoladeluisgd, it's in line 1404:33
_Spire_fromvega: it should... from my experiences in Debian04:34
pkhI'm trying to run my screen at rull resolution (2048x1536@80hz) -- but it only runs at 50hz.  Is there a way to force it up to the higher frequency?04:34
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bert__Spire: That continues on for a while then says there are no DHCP offers04:34
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_Spire_mikerobi: 99% of the usb cd drives should work, in my experience04:34
fromvega_Spire_: I've found it: apt-cdrom add :D04:34
_Spire_mikerobi: 99% of the usb cd drives should work, in my experience04:34
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_Spire_oops, didn't mean to do that twice04:35
MrSproutkitche, It worked!04:35
FaintofheartsOk, I was attempting to get my computer to run Quake 3 recently, and in order to do that I was messing around with some visual settings with the help of a friend. Now, after a while of trying various things (Which he said should have worked, but didn't so we blamed it on the fact that he uses a different distro) I decided to give up. However, now when I watch videos with Mplayer the visual isn't as good as it wa04:35
Faintofheartss before. Anyone have any idea what I may have done?04:35
bert_zcat[1] : sudo ifup eth0 gave this messge SIOCSIFADDR: No such device04:35
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orestyle9How do I get my two start bars back on my desktop?  I am using kubuntu...04:35
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zcat[1] bert_: while you were running dhclient, did the light(s) on the card blink at all?04:35
srothrocAnyone mind a horribly newbie-ish question?04:35
_Spire_srothroc: not at all :)04:35
srothrocWhat's the difference between KDE and GNOME, for someone just starting with Ubuntu?04:35
rancesrothroc: nope, it might be one we can answer04:36
luisgdthank you so much!04:36
neurotechum i just pressed Ctrl+Alt+- and now i'm running a super low screeen res :S how do I get back to 1920x1200?04:36
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zcat[1] srothroc: 'very little' - they both do the same thing, basically. :)04:36
MrSproutwhat's the glx enable command?04:36
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trinkoladeluisgd, no problem04:36
neuratixctrl+alt++04:36
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rOssis there a fawn bug page?04:36
_Spire_srothroc: there are a few main differences04:36
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neuratixneurotech: ctrl+alt++04:37
MrSprouttrinkolade, you seem fairly knowledgeable.04:37
MrSproutumm04:37
neurotechta04:37
FaintofheartsSo no one can help me...04:37
MrSprouthow do I enable glx?04:37
rancesrothroc: the visual difference is that kde LOOKS more like windows and it seems to be easier to transition to linux from windows if you start with KDE, but thats my opinion, and you are entitled to it ;)04:37
bert_zcat[1] : uh oh, eth0 shows up as my 3com card, with in io, irq and hw_addr addies. then eth1: flipped to 10base T then eth1: interrupt(s) dropped then two lines about promiscuous mode again04:37
_Spire_srothroc: gnome is more simplicity oriented and KDE is more windows like04:37
srothrocHmm.04:37
srothrocThat was a not-so-subtle dig at Windows, eh? :P04:37
kitcheMrSprout: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and make sure that glx has a star next to it when it configuring Xorg modules04:37
neuratiximho kde gives me a bit too "heavy feeling"04:37
_Spire_srothroc: if you want to get techinical, gnome uses the gtk toolkit and kde uses qt (generally)04:38
screechingcatHELP! im not able to log into my GNOME session04:38
rOssi have looked high and low on the wiki on how to fix my error new install of fawn 2 broken packages04:38
_Spire_srothroc: qt is a bit "heavier" than gtk, if you ask me04:38
bert_zcat[1] : So it looks like my nic is sitting on eth0 and eth1 at the same time04:38
mikerobiscreechingcat: hit the capslock04:38
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zcat[1] bert_: I have a funny feeling eth0 is the one you want and eth1 is something else like a badly supported wifi chipset...04:38
rancesrothroc: fact is that the foundations of gnome are closer to the unix heritage of a bunch of programs working together each doing one small task and doing it well, much less monolithic in nature, but harder to understand for a newbie04:38
screechingcatmikerobi: dude. im not that stupid. its some error with gdm.04:38
screechingcatmikerobi: im using the failsafe gnome session now04:39
srothrocHmm, you say that KDE looks more like Windows -- but aren't both KDE and Gnome reskinnable?04:39
orestyle9How do I get my two start bars back on my desktop?  I am using kubuntu...04:39
mikerobiscreechingcat: delete everything in /tmp04:39
_Spire_srothroc: to the max04:39
bert_zcat[1] : but in the GUI network tool the nic is showing up as eth1.04:39
zcat[1] KDE looks more like OSX to me :)04:39
rancesrothroc: yes they are, but I'm talking about the default starting place04:39
srothrocAhh.04:39
FaintofheartsAnyone here good at configuring for best visuals? I need to get everything running smoothly.04:39
trinkoladeMrSprout, you want to enable direct rendering?04:39
_Spire_srothroc: you can make KDE/Gnome look like OS9, Mac OS X, or practically anything you want?04:39
ranceonce you learn linux, you can pretty much make it do whatever you want04:39
MrSprouttrinkolade, I dunno.04:40
srothrocNo performance differences, either?04:40
bert_zcat[1] : Now I can't ifdown eth1 or eth004:40
MrSproutI need to change my screen resolution04:40
MrSprouthigher04:40
_Spire_srothroc: not really, unless it's a really slow computer04:40
screechingcatmikerobi: right deleted them04:40
zcat[1] I made my KDE look like OSX, I could never figure out how to get the same look in gnome...04:40
neuratixMrSprout: install your graphics driver correctly and enable it :)04:40
screechingcatmikerobi: now what ?04:40
MrSproutthe driver's installed but glx isn't enabled.04:40
mikerobiscreechingcat: try loging in again04:40
_Spire_srothroc: on a really slow computer, gnome will give you a bit more performance04:40
screechingcatmikerobi: right04:40
orestyle9I am missing both my upper and lower panel on my desktop.  Somehow I am not able to get them back, and the panel option does not work.  Any ideas?04:40
rancesrothroc: sometimes, there are performance differences, but it depends on equipment04:40
_Spire_srothroc: but if it's a really slow computer, you should try an alternative like the lightweight XFCE04:40
zcat[1] kde tends to be more configurable, gnome is slightly simpler I think... but more things just work.04:40
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neuratixMrSprout: if you're on nvidia you have to change driver "nv" to driver "nvidia" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:41
_Spire_plus more ubuntu documentation is gnome-geared04:41
neuratixand then restart x04:41
FaintofheartsHaha "It just works"04:41
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_Spire_since ubuntu ships with gnome04:41
MrSproutok04:41
srothrocWouldn't it follow, then, that kubuntu docs are more KDE-geared? Or do they have the same sets of docs?04:41
trinkoladeMrSprout, what graphic card do you have? You really did install the driver as described in several howtos? You changed the line in the xorg.conf?04:42
zcat[1] Faintofhearts: You'd be surprised, edgy on my laptop is totally sweet now. Everything works!!!04:42
MrSproutOk04:42
MrSproutI have a 7600gt04:42
FaintofheartsHeh04:42
MrSproutI followed the official nvidia driver installation instructions04:42
_Spire_everything on my laptop worked perfectly from the beginning... then again, it's probably the most standard laptop ever04:42
MrSproutbut it fails at compiling for a dual core processor04:42
srothrocI guess the vote's for gnome, then.04:42
FaintofheartsWell, I was just saying it because that was an apple slogan. Perhaps it still is.04:42
MrSproutso I was only making use of one of my 2 cores with the kernel it provided.04:42
alexander_guys, can someone look at http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/DisableIPV6, and tell me how its done?04:42
_Spire_Pentium M, Intel Pro/Wireless, Broadcom ethernet, ATI graphics04:42
MrSproutSo.. now I've been following kitche's instruction04:43
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MrSproutand done..04:43
srothrocSounds like a Dell to me. >.>04:43
rcrookwoohoo... its raining in canberra... about bloody time and all.....04:43
MrSproutI dunno.. done somthing04:43
_Spire_srothroc: correct! dell inspiron 600m04:43
MrSproutThe drivers are installed.04:43
MrSproutbut glx isn't enabled04:43
Faintofheartsneuratix: Perhaps you could help me out? I think I am having a similar problem to that of MrSprout.04:43
MrSproutand I cant change my screen resolution past 1024x76804:43
zcat[1] apple: it just works;  ubuntu: it just WORKS;  Windows: It JUST works04:43
Faintofheartszcat[1] : HAHA04:44
_Spire_with something that has an intel mobo, and widely supported network connectivity, it works right out of the box (except if you want fglrx)04:44
MrSproutubuntu doesn't just work.04:44
_Spire_it does, if you have the right hardware :)04:44
neuratixMrSprout: make sure you've changed the driver "nv" line to driver "nvidia"04:44
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MrSproutok, i'll go do that.04:44
zcat[1] MrSprout: once it's set up properly, it does. And keeps working.04:44
_Spire_MrSprout: and make sure that Load "glx" is in there, too04:45
neuratixyeah, i was about to say that :)04:45
FaintofheartsOk, I think what I am trying to enable is "direct graphics" or something similar. I am not the most Ubuntu inclined person, so could someone help me?04:46
neuratixdirect rendering perhaps?04:46
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alexander_guys04:46
MrSproutneuratix, it was changed already.04:46
alexander_can some plz help?04:46
rukuarticalexander_: Y004:46
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_Spire_alexander_: sure04:46
jroescan someone tell me how to reinstall grub?  i resized my primary partition and now I'm getting this error 17 (filesystem type not recognized)...04:46
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neuratixMrSprout: look for load "glx"04:47
alexander_rukuartic, _Spire_ http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/DisableIPV6... i dont understand how you do it :(04:47
_Spire_alexander_: okiex04:47
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MrSproutwhere abouts?04:47
_Spire_*s04:47
alexander__Spire_, i dont understand how do you change it04:47
Faintofheartsneuratix: Perhaps... I was trying to configure my computer so I could run Quake 3 (For some reason it won't run, though it did back on Windows).04:47
uvalhola04:47
rukuarticalexander_: Ok. "sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/aliases04:47
zcat[1] Faintofhearts: what video card?04:47
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rukuarticalexander_: And then put those lines in there04:47
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Faintofheartszcat[1] : It's an Intel 810 (I think)04:48
neuratixMrSprout: post your xorg.conf on the pastebin04:48
_Spire_alexander_: then reboot04:48
alexander_rukuartic, well i got to the file and stuff... i just dont understand the part were you have to change the lines... how do i change them?04:48
neuratix!pastebin | MrSprout04:48
MrSproutneuratix, where in the file would I find this?04:48
ubotuMrSprout: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:48
MrSproutok04:48
_Spire_alexander_: just type in those lines04:48
_Spire_alexander_: or copy and paste them04:48
pkhmy screen refresh rate is slow on ubuntu (50hz vs 80Hz in xp) -- I've set the oriz and vert refresh settings for my monitor, but it still runs @ 50Hz, any ideas?04:48
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_Spire_alexander_: try this04:49
alexander__Spire_, just stick them anywere in there?04:49
neuratixMrSprout: i cant remember that myself when not looking at it you see :)04:49
_Spire_alexander_: just one sec04:49
GunnyHey, I've just installed Ubuntu Server Edgy 64bit. I'm attempting to download the kernel headers off the cd (linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic), but it says they arn't available.04:49
GunnyProblem is, I need them to install my network drivers04:49
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MrSprouthttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38465/04:49
eigenlambdadownload off the cd?04:50
GunnyWhere can I get the headers so I can stick em on a USB key and install them manually?04:50
eigenlambdaoh04:50
GunnyIt can't find them on the CD04:50
_Spire_alexander_: put them in at the end04:50
Faintofheartszcat[1] : It should still be a similar set up, correct? I have downloaded the drivers and installed them, but it still doesn't run smoothly. One of my friends tried to walk me through some things, but it didn't do anything.04:50
eigenlambdatry archive.us.ubuntu.com?04:50
alexander__Spire_, and what about the originals?04:50
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alexander__Spire_, just leave them they way they are?04:50
FaintofheartsIn fact, it made it worse, because now Mplayer is glitchy on videos.04:50
Gunnyeigenlambda?04:50
_Spire_alexander_: leave everything else the way it is04:50
eigenlambdalol04:50
_Spire_except one thing04:50
eigenlambdano04:50
eigenlambdatry packages.ubuntu.com04:50
eigenlambdato find a package04:50
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eigenlambdaand download it04:51
MrSproutneuratix, you reading it?04:51
marshallwhats up gangsters04:51
neuratixMrSprout: yes04:51
alexander__Spire_, so just cut and paste the commands, to the end of the file, and save right?04:51
_Spire_alexander_: copy and paste, but don't save yet04:51
zcat[1] Faintofhearts: No idea. funny thing is Intel opensourced their drivers recently, so the support should be better for intel than anything else...04:51
eigenlambdahttp://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/devel/linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic04:51
jroescan someone tell me how to reinstall grub?  i resized my primary partition and now I'm getting this error 17 (filesystem type not recognized)...04:51
_Spire_alexander_: are you in the gui or at the terminal?04:51
eigenlambda^ download link on that page04:51
marshallhow do you change the default programs on your system? im trying to change my default file manager to thunar and my default image viewer to mirage04:51
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neuratixMrSprout: i can't see anything wrong, but mine is a bit diferent. i just installed the drivers from the repositories04:52
neuratixi've got a 7600gt card too btw04:52
alexander__Spire_, im looking through gedit at them04:52
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MrSproutffs04:52
eigenlambdahttp://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=amd64&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fl%2Flinux-source-2.6.17%2Flinux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic_2.6.17.1-10.34_amd64.deb&md5sum=a96cb082cf0c1969964570665be5cb61&arch=amd64&type=security04:52
eigenlambda^ ya that04:52
GunnyHow do I install the package after?04:52
eigenlambdagdebi04:52
MrSproutok, should I install from the repositories?04:52
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_Spire_alexander_: are you running gedit as root04:52
eigenlambdaactually, when you download it in firefox, it should prompt you04:52
Gunny?04:52
_Spire_alexander_: if you're not, quit gedit04:52
eigenlambdalol rite04:52
screechingcatim not able to boot into my gnome session. can anybody help me ?04:52
neuratixMrSprout: i haven't had any problems with that, just search fro nvidia and youll find it i guess04:53
eigenlambdawhere does gdebi live?04:53
eigenlambdaor you could, you know, dpkg -i04:53
bruenigscreechingcat, details, error messages, etc.04:53
alexander__Spire_, ok, i exited gedit, know what do i do? open a terminal?04:53
_Spire_alexander_: are you in gnome?04:53
MrSproutneuratix, do i need to uninstall this one first?04:53
GunnyOkay, I'll give that a shot04:54
alexander__Spire_, yes04:54
GunnyThanks so much04:54
_Spire_alexander_: if you are, just do this:04:54
screechingcatbruenig: gdm starts up fine. but if i boot into any session cept failsafe gnome, i see the splash-screen and then gdm reloads again04:54
zcat[1] FWIW I would suggest running 32bit linux on 64bit hardware unless you're sure that every bit of hardware and software you want to use is completely supported, OSS, and build for 64bit already.04:54
bruenigscreechingcat, no error?04:54
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screechingcatbruenig: but im able to boot into failsafe gnome. thats how im using xchat04:54
_Spire_alexander_: hit Alt-F2 and type in "gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/aliases" without the quotes04:54
mikerobiscreechingcat: time to start deleting dotfiles04:55
screechingcatbruenig: nothing that pops up and says "error".04:55
_Spire_you'll be prompted for your password, then you'll be in gedit again, except with the ability to make changes to system files04:55
bruenigscreechingcat, I have had it give me an error message and throw me back into gdm, but never just giving me no error messages04:55
bruenigscreechingcat, hard to diagnose without one04:55
_3uG_is openoffice broken for anyone else? the latest ubuntu update dealie broke it (more specifically, it broke ttf-opensymbol, which oo depends on)04:55
screechingcatmikerobi: i did delete all the /tmp files. dint help04:55
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FaintofheartsHow would I go about viewing my drivers lists?04:55
Faintofheartsdriver lists*04:55
mikerobiback up every hidden file in your home directory04:55
screechingcatbruenig: i coulld check the log04:55
FaintofheartsFor visuals.04:55
bruenigscreechingcat, delete ~/.Xauthority04:55
marshallhow do you change the default programs on your system? im trying to change my default file manager to thunar and my default image viewer to mirage04:55
bruenigor yeah backup....04:55
alexander__Spire_, w00t.... i opened it... lolz04:56
neuratixMrSprout: i don't know really, but here's a tutorial that looks good: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia04:56
zcat[1] screechingcat: you havn't run out of diskspace have you?04:56
_Spire_alexander_: ok, now comes the easy part04:56
noiesmo!envy | MrSprout04:56
ubotuMrSprout: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy04:56
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zcat[1] (not sure if someone else already asked)04:56
FaintofheartsHow would I go about viewing my visual driver lists?04:56
screechingcatzcat[1] : no04:56
_Spire_alexander_: go to the bottom of the file and copy and paste the first 3 lines, but not the one with the # infront of it04:56
zcat[1] screechingcat: mv all the config and let gnome rebuild it I guess :)04:56
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screechingcatbruenig: delered it04:56
bruenigscreechingcat, retry04:57
screechingcatbruenig: right then. be right back04:57
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alexander__Spire_, k, did that, know what?04:57
zcat[1] BTW; if you ever want to delete all your dotfiles, 'rm -rf .*' is not the best solution..04:57
_Spire_alexander_: hit Control-I04:57
alexander__Spire_, in gedit?04:57
_Spire_alexander_: yep04:58
_Spire_alexander_: then type in 17 and hit enter04:58
mikerobizcat[1] : That is the best way do delete all of you dotfiles.04:58
_Spire_alexander_: that takes you to line 17 of the document04:58
mikerobizcat[1] : it is just a bad idea04:58
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zcat[1] mikerobi: Yeah, except it matches '.' and '..' as well....04:58
alexander__Spire_, w00t... :D know what?04:58
_Spire_now type a # at the beginning of the line04:58
screechingcatNo luck04:59
_Spire_now that line should read the same as the line that you didn't copy and paste04:59
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mikerobizcat[1] : rm is smarter than tha04:59
FaintofheartsIs there any way for me to reset my visual settings to default? I mean as in drivers and whatnot.04:59
alexander__Spire_, you there man?04:59
mikerobizcat[1] : at least zsh is smarter04:59
zcat[1] mikerobi: you sure?!!04:59
_Spire_alexander_: yyp04:59
vbgunzis it possible to create a user without a password?04:59
_Spire_*yup :P04:59
Gunnyeigenlambda: Thanks a lot, it worked perfectly05:00
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alexander__Spire_, im there man, at line 17, what do i do next?05:00
FaintofheartsIs there any way for me to reset my visual settings to default? I mean as in drivers and whatnot.05:00
fiveironanyone using a logitech quickcam express?05:00
_Spire_alexander_: just type a "#" sign (without the quotes, of course)05:00
mikerobizcat[1] : rm can't remove '.' or '..'05:00
vbgunzI need a very limited user (unpriviledged), without a password. I need it for my 2 year old boy. Is this somehow possible?05:00
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_Spire_alexander_: be sure to type it at the beginning of the line, not the end of the line05:00
alexander__Spire_, cool, i did that... whats next?05:01
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FaintofheartsI feel like I'm being ignored ;_;05:01
_Spire_alexander_: does that line read #alias net-pf-10 ipv605:01
mikerobiFaintofhearts: display settings, or your entire desktop environment?05:02
alexander__Spire_, yes it does :~D05:02
fromvega_Spire_: hello again, it says it can't find the ubuntu-desktop package. I have only enabled the cd-rom repository. So what do you think?05:02
bruenigscreechingcat, up next ~/.ICEauthority05:02
FaintofheartsNot my desktop.05:02
FaintofheartsIt's more or less my drivers.05:02
vbgunzI need a very limited user (unprivileged), without a password. I need it for my 2 year old boy. Is this somehow possible? if not, why not?05:02
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screechingcatbruenig: you want me to keep deleting all the config files until it works ?05:02
_Spire_alexander_: now just save (File, Save, Ctrl-S, whatever you like to do)05:02
_Spire_alexander_: and then close gedit and reboot :005:03
bruenigscreechingcat, that's the plan05:03
_Spire_alexander_: you're done05:03
mikerobiscreechingcat: just don't delete the important ones05:03
_Spire_fromvega: is the CD in? (stupid question, I know)05:03
screechingcatmikerobi: like ?05:03
bruenigvbgunz, no password is probably unlikely. Why not set his as an automatic logon05:03
_Spire_fromvega: assuming it is, try typing 'sudo apt-get update' (without quotes)05:03
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_Spire_fromvega: then try again05:04
mikerobiscreechingcat: I can't give you a safe answer05:04
fromvega_Spire_: hum, ok05:04
alexander__Spire_, Ty dude.... TY a lot man....  a guy i know once said: learning linux after windows, is just like learning to walk again... :P05:04
eightballit is05:04
_Spire_alexander_: it's sort of true05:04
bruenigscreechingcat, just make sure you back them up before you rm them. Or better yet instead of rm ing them just mv them05:04
eightballand just when you think you have it, someone comes along and hits you with a baseball bat05:04
vbgunzbruenig: well, I am not sure on how to do that though I would prefer if he can select his own account and then log-in, he know how to do that stuff (double-click)... how do I auto log-in?05:04
bruenigor leave05:04
_Spire_alexander_: actually, really true05:04
FaintofheartsIndeed.05:05
_Spire_alexander_: once you get your balance, you can do amazing things05:05
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alexander__Spire_, just for the reference, when you add a "#" in a command line, what does it do....05:05
bruenigvbgunz, well auto login is on startup, so that if you were to turn on your computer it would autologin his account.05:05
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_Spire_alexander_: it basically disables (or "comments out") that line05:05
bruenigvbgunz, set a password like 'a' and have him type that in05:05
fromvega_Spire_: no success... it's not founding any packages in cdrom05:05
alexander__Spire_, oh i know... lol... i just hope that day comes sooner then later for me... lolz...05:05
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edgyHi, when I do dig@myserver.tld mywebsite.tld from the server it works but from remotely it didn't though I added a rule of -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport domain -j ACCEPT to iptables beside another rule of -A INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 1024:65535 --sport 53 -j ACCEPT, what am I missing please?05:05
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bruenigvbgunz, autologin wouldn't work if you were changing accounts midstream05:06
_Spire_alexander_: it basically allows you to put in a line that won't be executed05:06
screechingcatbruenig: mikerobi, It didn't work. whats next ?05:06
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bruenigscreechingcat, that's all I've got there must be others. Those are the only ones I ever see mentioned though05:06
_Spire_alexander_: it's called commenting out because the original use of # (or / in other programming languages) was to add comments to your code05:06
alexander__Spire_, so its like when you want to add a comment.... just like a "//" in java or c++... like an escape character i guess05:06
_Spire_alexander_: exactly :)05:06
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vbgunzbruenig: well, on my wifes computer she has XP. it has that login window with all the accounts, he knows his and knows how to get in... am trying to replicate it as my wife sometimes needs to work and it leaves him without a pc... heh, I'll figure something out I guess :)05:07
alexander__Spire_, i think i just brought that day a centimeter closer... lolz05:07
_Spire_alexander_: the funny thing is most config files in linux use #, but others might use // or something else depending on the appliction05:07
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andrew_hey you guys know anything about persistent mode?05:08
_Spire_alexander_: if a program is written in X programming language, the config file might use X languages' commenting syntax instead of Y default05:08
vbgunzbruenig: I found the auto-login, gonna see how that works out05:08
FaintofheartsI need someone willing to invest some time into helping me...05:08
_Spire_Faintofhearts: what's your problem? I haven't really been paying attention?05:08
alexander__Spire_, w00t.... well im gonna go reboot, ill come after and tell you have it went05:09
_Spire_alexander_: okies :)05:09
andrew_I need to know about ati drivers / persistent mode?05:09
bruenigvbgunz, I don't know what your login screen looks like but generally don't you have to type the username anyways?05:09
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BiNzFaintofhearts, only if your 17/F/USA and weigh < 130 lbs05:09
bruenigvbgunz, if he can type the username, he can type a password is my thinking05:09
vbgunzbruenig: yeah, I prefer it like that but Gnome has a face browser so then you'll only have to enter a password05:09
bruenigBiNz, is USA really necessary05:10
zcat[1] bruenig: You can set up a 'face browser' like windows has.05:10
Faintofhearts_Spire_: Well, a few days ago a friend of mine was helping me optimize my graphics card, but in the end it didn't work.05:10
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bruenigzcat[1] , hmmm sounds gay05:10
_Spire_Faintofhearts: what'd he do? :P05:10
zcat[1] bruenig: 'tiz05:10
Faintofhearts_Spire_: I was told to change my Xorg.conf file, and edit in some things.05:10
ZahrberI am 37/M/USA 6'2" 255 lbs brown hair blue eyes Virgo who likes walking in the rain and Pina Colada's LOL05:10
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andrew_virgin who likes walking in the rain?05:11
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_Spire_Faintofhearts: did something like direct renderning go away?05:11
BiNzZahrber, ohhh sexy05:11
Faintofhearts_Spire_: I edited in what he told me to do, and reset X.05:11
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ZahrberYeah except I am married with 4 boys05:11
andrew_anybody know about persistent mode in here??????05:11
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_Spire_Faintofhearts: but what's the problem? what's not working?05:11
BiNzlol05:11
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andrew_Zahrber: Artificial insemination?05:11
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_Spire_why are we talking about this? XD05:12
ZahrberYeah a judge and 4 blood test say they are mine05:12
Faintofhearts_Spire_: Well, we didn't get what I wanted working working, and now Mplayer's video is worse quality than it was before I screwed around with the settings..05:12
andrew_wow, why did you need that?05:12
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screechingcatbruenig: would any of these - sudo init.d gdm05:12
screechingcat sudo invoke gdm05:12
screechingcat sudo invoke-init.d05:12
screechingcat sudo init.d-gdm break gdm ? because i was using the command line yesterday and i didnt know the exact command to start gdm. since then ive had this problem05:12
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petafileHow does one burn a movie dvd?  like to play in a standard dvd player?05:12
BiNzhaha so he had them tested, cant trust the wives these days05:12
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bruenigscreechingcat, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start05:13
_Spire_Faintofhearts: what did you want working? and do you remember what you added? It'd help a _lot_05:13
ZahrberK3B is a DVD byrner05:13
bruenigor restart or stop if you wish05:13
Zahrberburner05:13
zcat[1] screechingcat: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart05:13
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FaintofheartsActually I do05:13
bruenigk3b is an all purpose burner05:13
andrew_if I used Easyubuntu, and the ATI drivers didnt install, do you think its because im using persistent mode?05:13
petafileZahrber: I"ll check it out05:13
zcat[1] hmm.. late as usual05:13
bruenig!easyubuntu05:13
ubotueasyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu05:13
screechingcatbruenig: zcat[1]  NO. i dont want the command. i asked if any of the above could break it ?05:13
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zcat[1] screechingcat: yes/no/perhaps?05:13
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nootawhere is easyubuntu?05:14
_Spire_Faintofhearts: you know what you added?05:14
zcat[1] screechingcat: I wouldn't have thought so05:14
bruenigscreechingcat, not good to copy and pase stuff you don't know05:14
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alexander_w00t05:14
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bruenignoota, you don't want it. It just installs a bunch of stuff that you could do on your own except on occasion it can fail05:14
_Spire_alexander_: worked?05:14
bruenignoota, not nearly as often as automatix but occasionally05:14
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marshallthanks guys05:14
nootawhere is easyubuntu? in korea?05:14
screechingcati dint copy/paste that. i was trying to get my GUI started (i was using the commandline) and i forgot the command05:14
bruenignoota, it is on the tubes05:14
_Spire_screechingcat: startx?05:15
Faintofhearts_Spire_: I was trying to get Quake 3 to run properly (Which it CAN with this hardware because it did under windows), and I added... I'll PM it to you :P05:15
nootatube?05:15
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alexander__Spire_, well, its faster for sure.... but its still like maybe 5 sec longer. its still better then the 20-sec i was waiting for before....05:15
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_Spire_Faintofhearts: ok05:15
zcat[1] .nl ?05:15
andrew_I wish somebody knew something about LIVE persistence here :-(05:15
_Spire_alexander_: :)05:15
nootawebsite name is tubes?05:15
bruenignoota, the tubes, that is what the internet is, it is a series of tubes, not a dump truck05:15
Zahrberstartx use to start X windows from command line back in the day when I used mandrake05:15
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alexander__Spire_, that silly IPv6..... making my life hell.... lolz05:15
screechingcati dont care about that command now. WHY IS MY GNOME NOT BOOTING ?05:15
nootacan i search google?05:16
bruenignoota, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=easyubuntu&btnG=Google+Search05:16
Zahrberis Gnome your default WM05:16
zcat[1] My staff sent me an internet last week, I got it this morning!05:16
screechingcatZahrber: yep05:16
BiNzis IPv6 really neccessary?05:16
nootathanks bruenig05:16
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vox754!search easyubuntu05:16
ubotuFound: easyubuntu05:16
Zahrberdoes any WM boot05:16
nootaare you korean?05:16
alexander__Spire_, actually you know what, its working like super fast now... lolz... IM FREE AGAIN! ahahahahha05:16
andrew_I wish somebody knew something about LIVE persistence here :-(!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!05:16
vox754!find easyubuntu05:16
ubotuPackage/file easyubuntu does not exist in edgy05:16
screechingcatZahrber: i can boot into failsafe gnome.05:16
bruenignoota, I was just named the secretary general of the UN05:17
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_Spire_alexander_: great :)05:17
screechingcatZahrber: everything else, i just get as far as the spalsh screen and then gdm reloads05:17
andrew_ubotu: you know anything about persistent mode?05:17
Zahrberscreechingcat: but regular Gnome kicks you to command line or what05:17
nootasecretary? of the UN?05:17
nootaWow~05:17
andrew_lol05:17
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andrew_ubotu isnt real05:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about isnt real - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:17
bruenignoota, therefore I am korean05:17
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nootathanks for your answer~!05:17
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bruenigandrew_, he is real, look at him05:17
screechingcatZahrber: no. regular gnome sends me back to gdm.05:17
alexander__Spire_, ty man... ty a lot. I really really appreciate it. Hey, in ubuntu, is there like an antivirus, or no?05:17
Zahrberscreechingcat: hmmm05:17
elysium444!mp305:18
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:18
nootareally?05:18
andrew_!ati05:18
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:18
screechingcatZahrber: WITHOUT coughing out any errors05:18
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Zahrberscreechingcat: did you change configuration in X at all like refresh rate or resolution05:18
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vox754!search antivirus05:18
ubotuFound: antivirus05:18
_Spire_alexander_: well, there aren't really any known viruses for linux, so no one really uses antivirus05:18
noota 05:18
screechingcatZahrber: nope05:18
noshcan someone please help me figure out how to get better than 800x600 from the live cd?05:18
zcat[1] ubotu used th be real, but the ops rotated him 90 degrees and now he's imaginary.05:18
bruenignoota, this is me http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ban_Ki-moon05:18
noota  ?05:18
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elysium444!xine05:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:19
elysium444!libxine05:19
bruenig!en05:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libxine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:19
ubotuThe #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat05:19
nootathis is your website?05:19
Zahrberscreechingcat: sounds like a config if fail safe works05:19
alexander__Spire_, well thats what i thought... ive been giving it a bit thought the past couple of days...05:19
elysium444!sq05:19
bruenignoota, that is a bio of me somebody did05:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sq - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:19
vox754!antivirus05:19
ubotuantivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus05:19
screechingcat!ubotu05:19
vox754!linuxvirus05:19
ubotuThe short life and hard times of a Linux Virus http://librenix.com/?inode=2105:19
zcat[1] !linuxvirus05:19
nosh!resolution05:20
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:20
_Spire_alexander_: you should use a firewall, though05:20
_Spire_alexander_: try installing firestarter05:20
alexander__Spire_, cool.... are there any others?05:20
screechingcatZahrber: so now what do i do ?05:20
_Spire_alexander_: yup, but firestarter is by far the easiest to install05:20
andrew_how do I configure my synaptics touchpad, it says the driver is already to install!!05:20
_Spire_alexander_: just use synaptic to install it05:21
andrew_installed*05:21
vox754!find firestarter05:21
ubotuFound: firestarter05:21
san!ubotu05:21
Zahrberscreechingcat: a virus in Linux is possible, it will do most damage if you are careless with using root or su05:21
andrew_!synaptics05:21
ubotuFor a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad05:21
alexander__Spire_, well thats one thing i figured out how to use.... the SYNAPTIC... :~D05:21
vox754!firestarter05:21
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).05:21
Zahrberscreechingcat: sorry forgot I wanted to talk to everyone05:21
screechingcatZahrber: come on. be realistic. i dont think its a virus.05:21
_Spire_the simplest virus in the whole world, yet deadly:05:21
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_Spire_sudo rm -rf /* && sudo reboot05:22
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elysium444!libxine-extracodecs05:22
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB05:22
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nosh!screen preferences05:22
ubotuscreen: a terminal multiplexor with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation. In component main, is optional. Version 4.0.2-4.1ubuntu5.6.10 (edgy), package size 570 kB, installed size 976 kB05:22
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zcat[1] one of the best defenses against linux viruses and spyware is package management; nobody runs stuff from email or web downloads, we get signed packages from trusted apt repositories.. this is a good thing.05:22
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nosh!preferences05:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about preferences - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:22
nootabruenig, you serve ban-gi-moon 8th Secretary-General of the United Nations Designate???05:22
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trixi'm using xterm and irssi in kubuntu, but i can't use alt +1 or 2,3 to switch windows05:23
bruenignoota, I am ban-ki moon05:23
ZahrberI use Linux to test out my windows programs for virus so ClamAv is very useful even though it is not a great AV05:23
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nootareally?05:23
nootahuk05:23
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nootanice to meet you~!05:23
fromvega2hello again05:23
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nootareally?05:23
noshhey, does anyone know about screen resolution preferneces?05:24
nootai'm dizzy05:24
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_Spire_nosh: I do, just a second :)05:24
noshthanks05:24
zcat[1] !res05:24
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:24
ZahrberI use Linux to check my email because most worms and trojans can't function on Linux in Evolution05:24
zcat[1] !botsnack05:24
ubotuYum!05:24
noshI've looked at that and it didnt help...05:24
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zcat[1] nosh: what was your problem?05:25
fromvega2sometimes some command outputs are too large that doesn't fit in the screen, so I can't read the beginning. How do I pause the output ?05:25
noshwell, my ibook is stuck in 800x600. I want 1024x76805:25
Zahrbernosh: what are you wanting to know05:25
zcat[1] fromvega2:  | less05:25
noshthe xord config has that as a resolution05:25
wastrelfromvega2:  use the less command to page through the output    somecommand | less05:25
fromvega2tks05:25
justpaul<command> | less05:25
fromvega2:D05:25
_Spire_nosh: ok, go to system > preferences > screen resolution05:25
noshbut the screen preferences dialog doesnt list it05:25
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fnfI'm writing a few scripts that logouts a GNOME session, will anyone tell me what is the related commands for this ?05:26
_Spire_nosh: screen resolution doesn't list 1024x768?05:26
noshok, and it has 800x600 and 640x 48005:26
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noshno... but it is in the xorg conf file05:26
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_Spire_nosh: can you pastebin your xorg.conf?05:26
noshsure... into this channel?05:26
fnf!logout05:26
_Spire_nosh: nope05:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about logout - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:26
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Zahrbernosh: what is your refresh rate set at if it too high to support your screen at that res and refresh it will not be available05:26
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zcat[1] nosh: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log, it might say why it can't/wont give you that mode...05:27
_Spire_nosh: go to pastebin.com, or PM me05:27
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noshjust a sec _spire_05:27
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_Spire_nosh: ok05:28
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timo901Im trying to get xine to play DVB-T but i have a chaannel .conf problem05:29
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sontalfrethe proxy server is refusing connections ????05:29
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codemonkey2is there a ruby on rails channel or can someone help me?05:29
timo901xine dvb:// dosent play any dvb-t05:30
codemonkey2ive got an in in my document root. In apache ive got rewrite, but when it renders images it sets the location to appOne/appOne/galery/etc05:30
codemonkey2where is the extra appOne comming from? anyone got any ideas05:30
nosh_spire_: I just dumped my xorg conf to pastebin.com05:30
_Spire_ok05:30
_Spire_nosh: what's the link?05:30
noshoh... lol05:30
alexander__Spire_, ty man, im going to go hit the sacks.... Thank-you for your help... Thank-you A lot!05:30
noshhttp://pastebin.com/84357005:30
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RugHowdy all05:31
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alexander_night everyone05:31
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petafileI just installed k3b, started a video dvd project.  how do I burn an avi movie to video dvd?05:32
petafilethere's a audio_ts and video_ts folder05:32
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_Spire_nosh: I don't see anything wrong with that...05:32
RugI have just reinstalled dapper (after hardware upgrade) and now my mouse isn't working.  PS2 mode and USB.  I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver but that didn't help.  Any ideas?05:32
Zahrberpetafile: an avi must be converted to MPEG 4 format to be viewable as a dvd movie if that is what you mean05:32
nosh_spire_: yeah, its the standard one from the live cd... I guess autodetected05:33
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kuto_j ##C++05:33
petafileZahrber: does k3b not do that for you?05:33
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max_anyone use beryl?05:33
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Zahrberpetafile: I think it does those are the files that make up the dvd movie so that is good05:33
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nosh_spire_: is there a manual way to switch res outside the screen preferences dialog?05:33
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ZahrberI haven't used K3b in awhile05:33
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cabrono\part05:34
petafileZahrber: do you use anything that burns dvd movies from avi?05:34
_Spire_nosh: possibly05:34
Zahrberbut I am sure that it converts for you05:34
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ZahrberI used k3b awhile back and it worked for me05:34
vox754!beryl05:35
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl05:35
Zahrberpetafile:one sec I will check05:35
petafilek05:35
_Spire_nosh: try this: go to a terminal and type "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and then hit Ctrl-W and then Ctrl-T05:35
_Spire_nosh: type 142 and hit enter05:35
vox754!search dvd05:35
ubotuFound: libdvdcss,libdvdcss2,dvd,burners,dvdiso,k9copy,dvd-torrent,dvd-torrent-#kubuntu,css05:35
andrew_!SHMConfig05:35
andrew_crap05:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about SHMConfig - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:35
vox754!burners05:35
ubotuCD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto05:35
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about IHATEUBUNTU - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:36
_Spire_nosh: then delete anything on that line after 1024x76805:36
wastrelnano05:36
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andrew_does anyone know how to get the settings for my synaptics touchpad?05:36
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orestyle9Ideas on terminal emulator for Windows servers from ubuntu?05:37
Rugandrew_: not with that attitude05:37
Rugorestyle9: rdesktop like?05:37
orestyle9similar yes...05:37
wastrelorestyle9:  terminal server client in the applications menu?05:37
orestyle9but no rdesktop05:37
Rugorestyle9: =)05:37
timo901how do i make use of these http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?do_Details=1&ID=2034&O=0&L=0&C=0&K=dvb&SB=&SO=&PP=25&do_MyPackages=0&do_Orphans=0&SeB=nd05:37
Rugorestyle9: tsclient05:37
andrew_Rug: <305:37
orestyle9I have one installed on a machine at work  .. It might be tsclient..  Thanks..05:38
Neeledandrew_:  What kind of settings do you need?  But like Rug said, please be patient.05:38
nosh_spire_: ok, I just left the hi res mode on that line... written the file out, but what to do to make xord reload it?05:38
vox754!search touchpad05:38
ubotuFound: synaptics05:38
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andrew_Neeled: I installed gsynaptics, but it says i need to change my config05:38
Zahrberpetafile: yeah it should work05:38
orestyle9Im on my way out of the windows world, but baby steps.... :)05:38
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petafileZahrber: how do you do it?05:39
Rugorestyle9: it's all good05:39
orestyle9I wonder why tsclient needs to uninstall openoffice?05:39
Zahrberpetafile: did you rip the movie from dvd or you have an AVI you want to convert05:39
_Spire_nosh: hit Ctrl-X then Y05:39
Rugorestyle9: it shouldn't05:39
petafileZahrber: avi05:39
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noshok, thanks... just s sec05:39
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Neeledandrew_:  Let me see if I can find something on that.05:40
vox754!search avi05:40
ubotuFound: sound,trivia,xgl-#ubuntu-xgl,ops,rules,banned,guidelines,manners,ops-#edubuntu,behaviour05:40
_Spire_nosh: then restart05:40
nosh_spire_... ctrl x y does nothing...05:40
petafileZahrber: i found a guide on how to do it from linuxquestions.org.  I can follwot that05:40
orestyle9I just did an aptitude and tsclient installed, all my oopenoffice went bye bye.    I wonder if its because I didn't use synaptics?05:40
noshctrl x backspace?05:40
Zahrberpetafile: then setup the encoding process it should be like a project and then load the avi and let it encode, this may take a while05:40
vox754nosh: ctrl + alt + bckspc05:41
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vox754nosh: ctrl + alt + backspace05:41
Zahrberpetafile: most of them are so similar just have to understand what you want to do05:41
dint!search xgl05:41
ubotuFound: beryl,xgl,fglrx-#ubuntu-xgl,xgl-#ubuntu-xgl,startup-#ubuntu-xgl,ati-#ubuntu-xgl,kororaa-#ubuntu-xgl,pbuffer-#ubuntu-xgl,supported cards-#ubuntu-xgl,breezy-#ubuntu-xgl05:41
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noshmeh... no backspace on my ibook. delete doesnt seem to cut it05:41
orestyle9well I used synaptics to install openoffice, but aptitude to install tsclient...  I thought they basically where the same...05:41
Neeledandrew_: I don't know if this is what you need, but there are some basic instructions on http://gsynaptics.sourceforge.jp/05:42
jacob_hi, i tried installing the nvidia-glx drivers via synaptic, but when i try to configure them it says "Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver!"05:42
andrew_Neeled: thanks05:42
Zahrbernosh: are you editing with root account05:42
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Jeronimusis this some conspirancy of linux irc client writers to not allow for autoarranging/splitting windows within the application itself?05:43
_JECKEL_how do you start an ssh server?05:43
Rug_JECKEL_: /etc/init.d/sshd start05:43
_JECKEL_ok05:43
_JECKEL_thanks05:43
_JECKEL_forgot that part05:43
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_JECKEL_not working05:44
_JECKEL_for some odd reason05:44
orestyle9is it installed?05:44
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NeeledJeronimus: There's probably a way to do it, but I haven't found it yet.  I've asked around and haven't had any luck.  I know, it's not like mIRC.05:44
_JECKEL_and I know I have openssh-server installed05:44
orestyle9if you run top do you see it already running?05:44
JeronimusNeeled - in xchat there is no way to do it. thats why i installed another one now to test. again no luck... its ridiculous they dont add such useful fuctions05:45
RugI have just reinstalled dapper (after hardware upgrade) and now my mouse isn't working.  PS2 mode and USB.  I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but that didn't help.  Any ideas?05:45
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wastrelwhat if you plug it into a diff usb port05:45
_JECKEL_I see a crap load of stuff running actually05:45
_JECKEL_how do I scroll down with top? lol05:46
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Rugwastrel: it doesn't help05:46
wastreldo you see it in lsusb   do you see it in the kernel log (dmesg when you plug it in?)05:46
andrew_anyone: anybody know anything about persistent mode when using a live-cd?05:46
JeronimusNeeded - in xchat you could detach all chat windows and have your window manager autoarrange them. but of course... gnome with metacity doesnt have such an option...05:46
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Rugwastrel: lsusb: yes dmesg Yes05:46
orestyle9do a shift period and that will sort them by name (i think) I have ssh-agent running on mine so if you have it, it should show (if its running)05:46
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rcrookok, I am finally caving and going to install ubuntu on mt laptop... only one problem, how do I shrink my ntfs partition without having to reinstall loserdoze xp?05:46
wastrelrug so what do we do now?05:47
vox754!search persistent05:47
ubotuFound: persistence05:47
DorrinalHello05:47
vox754!persistence05:47
ubotuTo have some persistent storage when using a Live CD, follow the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDPersistence05:47
PORDOi'm very flustered, trying to figure out how to access the mic input on my ICH05:47
Rugwastrel: nuke it & reinstall?05:47
PORDOICH505:47
wastrelgood lord no05:47
rukuarticHey everyone. I've got a spare 1.0 Ghz 256 mb Ram computer sitting in my basement thats not getting used for much. Does anyone have an idea of what I can do to help the community out with, like a seti@home server or a public ftp or free shells? (Yes I'm aware about the abuse, but part of the fun for me would be stopping it from happening)05:47
_JECKEL_hmmm?05:47
GunnyHrm..05:47
GunnyWhich is the latest version version for download in Ubuntu?05:47
wastrelrcrook:  the installer contains gparted which can resize ntfs.  defrag in windows first05:47
nootaeasy ubuntu very good05:47
Jeronimusbefore i try every single irc client out there for linux. is anyone using an irc client for linux which allows for spliting windows (autoarranging them like in mIRC)?05:47
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rukuarticGunny: 6.1005:47
wastreland of course, backup your data.05:47
NeeledJeronimus: That's a thought.  One could also code it in, of course, but I don't have experience in that.  I'd be looking for something like how Opera handles windows.05:48
vox754!tell andrew_ about persistence05:48
nosh_spire_ : ah... found the right keys. So it restarted and still only offers up to 800x60005:48
Rugrukuartic: mprime, warez ftp server =)05:48
rukuarticGunny: Also known as "Edgy Eft"05:48
nosh:'(05:48
GunnySorry, I worded that wrong05:48
rukuarticRug: Emphasis on "non illicit activity"05:48
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_Spire_nosh: don't know what to do now :(05:48
GunnyWhich is the latest kernel version for download in Ubuntu?05:48
Rugrukuartic: jk05:48
kitcheJeronimus if you want you can run mirc in wine runs rather well05:48
Gunny2.6.17 is kinda old now05:48
nosh_spire_ ah well... thankyou so much for giving me a hand.05:48
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Jeronimuskitche - i do that, but mirc in wine is sluggish/slow05:48
rcrookwastrel: cool, whats the best ntfs defrag prog to use?05:48
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wastrelrcrook:  i have very little experience with windows, doesn't it come with one?05:49
vox754!kernel05:49
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild05:49
orestyle9that was nice, when I try to connect with tsclient I get booted off system..05:49
orestyle9errrr...05:49
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vox754!search defrag05:49
ubotuFound: defrag,defragmentation05:49
vox754!defrag05:49
ubotudefragmentation is not needed for Ext3 and ReiserFS filesystems. They are much more efficient in their allocation of storage units.05:49
_JECKEL_don't seem to have sshd in my init.d05:49
rcrookwastrel: not a very good one.. does move files to beginning of disk, always leaves something at the end05:49
midgetg0atHey guys, trying to figure out VMWare - nver used it before, but I'd like to get a windows xp install going, any one offer some advice? Does Ubuntu Edgy come with what I need? Do i need to download vmware workstation? Not finding an all inclusive "noob" guide.05:50
_JECKEL_don't know why though05:50
vox754!defragmentation05:50
midgetg0at!vmware05:50
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). Instructions for VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare05:50
Gunnymidget: Get VMWare server for free www.VMWare.com/server/05:50
_JECKEL_I know I have openssh-server installed05:50
GunnyWorks perfectly on Ubuntu05:50
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midgetg0atso i need the server05:50
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midgetg0atdo i have to compile it?05:50
GunnyWorkstation is depritiated05:50
wastrel_JECKEL_:  apt-cache policy openssh-server   (:05:50
Gunnyno05:50
midgetg0atk, thanks for the heads up.05:50
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rcrookanyone know a decent ntfs defrag prog?05:51
GunnyYeah05:51
vox754!defragmentation05:51
ubotudefragmentation is not needed for Ext3 and ReiserFS filesystems. They are much more efficient in their allocation of storage units.05:51
GunnyRight click on your drive, properties, utilities, defrag05:51
orestyle9_JECKEL_ :  and is it running, can you do a reload or restart?05:51
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midgetg0atI dont see a .deb vmware server....05:52
GunnyThere isn't one05:52
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midgetg0at:)05:52
GunnyYou need to download from www.VMWare.com/server/05:52
wastrel!vmware05:52
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). Instructions for VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare05:52
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_JECKEL_I can't get it to restart the server05:52
orestyle9I wonder if reinstalling it would help....05:52
midgetg0atthanks guys, i'll fudge around w/ it for a bit.05:52
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Neeledmidgetg0at: I see it there05:52
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_JECKEL_hmmm05:53
Neeledmidgetg0at: it looks like it comes in .rpm and .tar.gz05:53
midgetg0atyes, i know....i'm just trying to avoid building anything, but i guess i just run an install.pl or something05:53
Neeledmidgetg0at: I believe you could use alien to convert the rpm to deb format05:53
Neeled(correct me if I'm wrong)05:54
midgetg0atso that community page says player, workstation or server...i'm guessing i dont want player as i dont want to be able to only used pre-made images....05:54
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midgetg0atbut do i really need server just to run xp?05:54
GunnyYes05:54
vox754!search rpm05:54
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vox754!rpm05:54
ubotuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)05:54
GunnyIt's not much different then workstation was05:55
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wyldlol05:59
wyldwelcome back05:59
dintlol05:59
Daelanthat i s awesome05:59
dintwhat the heck05:59
midgetg0atnow there is some house cleaning05:59
dint:D05:59
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_Spire_faintofhearts: did it work?05:59
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Daelanlol05:59
DaelanI like pi05:59
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Daelanpi is the coolest05:59
midgetg0atmicrowave shake 'n back or toaster oven....05:59
wyldpi to the 1000000 place is 705:59
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Daelan3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286208998628034825342117067905:59
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Daelan  442881097566593344612847564823378678316527120190914564856692346034861045432664821339360726024914127305:59
Daelan  724587006606315588174881520920962829254091715364367892590360011330530548820466521384146951941511609405:59
Daelan  330572703657595919530921861173819326117931051185480744623799627495673518857527248912279381830119491205:59
Daelan  983367336244065664308602139494639522473719070217986094370277053921717629317675238467481846766940513205:59
aaDaelan  8 8 605:59
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vox754!search spam06:00
ubotuFound: etiquette,nickspam,hostmask06:00
Ashton_KQuestion.06:00
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vox754!etiquette06:00
ubotuUnsure how you should behave on this channel? See !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam, !AskTheBot - and most importantly, use common sense :-)06:00
midgetg0atI think you're confusing us w/ the mathematically curious.06:00
_JECKEL_I don't understand how that could happen06:00
eightballdaelan had too much pi :-/06:00
wyld!paste06:00
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)06:00
_JECKEL_apparently my router seems to have denied the existance of my desktop yet still lets it connect to the internet06:00
DaelanI can never get enough pi06:00
Daelan3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286208998628034825342117067906:00
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Daelan  442881097566593344612847564823378678316527120190914564856692346034861045432664821339360726024914127306:00
Daelan  724587006606315588174881520920962829254091715364367892590360011330530548820466521384146951941511609406:00
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aaDaelan  8 8 606:00
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kitche!ops06:00
ubotuHelp! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!06:00
BlueEagle!flood06:00
vox754!NickSpam06:00
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ubotuYou should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages (see !Away for more details): use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently06:00
eightballyour service provider can :P06:00
buckyaa is a bot06:01
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_JECKEL_eightball talking to me?06:01
wyldHow do I add programs to a start-up menu?06:01
eightball_JECKEL_, : no06:01
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wastreli should shrink my root partition and increase my home partition 100%06:01
Ashton_KCan anyone explain to me why, when the NetGear WG311T card uses the Atheros chipset, and the madwifi comes in the restricted-modules packet (installed), why doesn't it recognize my wireless card?06:01
wyldkick daelan06:01
wyldsomeone06:01
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wyldthanks06:01
wyldis there a way to make programs start up automatically? If so, how?06:02
vox754!search start-up06:03
ubotuFound: usplash06:03
vox754!search start06:03
ubotuFound: kidding,xgl-#ubuntu-xgl,gdm-#ubuntu-xgl,startup-#ubuntu-xgl,firewall,startup,upstart,boot,gconf-#ubuntu-xgl,usplash06:03
vox754!startup06:03
ubotuTo add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup06:03
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Ashton_K!search madwifi06:03
ubotuFound: madwifi06:03
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vox754!cron06:03
ubotucron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm06:03
wyldvox754: thanks06:03
marshallasd06:04
midgetg0atvmware server install: in which directory do you want to install the binary files....??06:04
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midgetg0atum...vmware....06:04
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GreyGhostam i correct in belieing that .pl files are shell scripts like Win .bat files? that means if i just run it in the console and i'm done?06:04
petafileHow do I use the vga out on my laptop to show the output on an external monitor?06:05
marshalldoes anybody know what happened to ubuntu-offtopic?06:05
wastrel.pl files are perl06:05
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vox754!search pl06:05
ubotuFound: code,gr,kdeincludes,alternatives,totem,kde docs,themes,ge,browsers,scp06:05
petafileseems like I may have to mess with xorg.conf :(06:05
PirateHead /usr/local/bin, maybe?06:05
buckyhttp://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_vmware_server06:05
vox754!pearl06:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pearl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:05
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Lam_i need a terminal command that will traverse into every directory recursively and chown each file/directory06:05
midgetg0atheh, yea, i'm just noobing it up, guess i'll just put it in my user dir.06:05
_JECKEL_sooooo.../etc/init.d/ sshd start is how you get an ssh server running?06:05
_JECKEL_then why is it not working for me? :\06:05
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vox754!perl06:05
ubotuperl: Larry Wall's Practical Extraction and Report Language. In component main, is important. Version 5.8.8-6 (edgy), package size 3287 kB, installed size 11436 kB06:05
trinkoladeLam_, chown -r, see man chown06:06
_JECKEL_!ssh06:06
ubotuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/06:06
bucky/etc/init.d/ssh start06:06
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Lam_trinkolade:  oh cool. didn't know you could do that. thanks06:06
trinkoladeLam_, chown -R06:06
petafileis there a way to switch between my laptop panel and an external monitor?06:06
vox754!chown06:06
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands06:06
_JECKEL_ok06:06
trinkoladeLam_, but take a look at the manpage "man chown"06:06
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mneptokLam_: -R is recursive and -r is remove read bit06:07
_JECKEL_hmmm06:07
PORDOi need help getting my mic to work.  my chenming SFF box has a mic input on front and back.  i don't know which to try.  it has ICH506:07
GreyGhostnope its an install.pl install script all right... and will be run out a console then...06:07
mneptokLam_: just be careful with -R-x06:07
wastrelchown -R can break your system good so be careful where you point it06:07
_JECKEL_lol ok..I jumped up from .2 to .4 lol06:07
mneptokLam_: (and you want chmod, not chown)06:08
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midgetg0atVMWare Server Install: What is the directory that contains the init directories (rc0.d/ to rc6.d/)?06:08
Lam_mneptok: why chmod?06:08
wastrelchmod -R , sry.  either one can break you :] 06:08
mneptokLam_: are you looking to change owner, or permissions?06:08
vox754!search chmod06:08
ubotuFound: chmod06:08
buckymidgetg0at, http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_vmware_server06:08
wastrelubunto06:08
vox754!chmod06:08
ubotuThe files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux06:08
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Lam_mneptok: owner.06:09
midgetg0atthink i foudn it, just had to run a locate...just dont want to make a wrong stemp06:09
mneptokLam_: then you want chown06:09
midgetg0at*step, i'm already recovering from a botched install.06:09
Lam_mneptok: ok good lol06:09
noodles12!ati06:09
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:09
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midgetg0atbucky: good find, ty06:09
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Ricardohello everbody06:10
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midgetg0atis there any way to roll back an install that is already started so i can answer the questions again?06:10
timo901cant any one help me with seting up xine for dvb-t06:10
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timo901scan -x0 -t1 -s1 /usr/share/dvb-utils/scan06:10
Ricardoim going06:11
Ricardocya06:11
hackit_errorOk i am using ubuntu and can i hack a windows user06:11
mneptokmidgetg0at: most install screens offer a "go back" option06:11
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midgetg0atthis is through term06:11
tritiummidgetg0at: you can re-answer the quesitons by runing "sudo dpkg-reconfigure <package-name>"06:11
tritiumquestions even06:11
midgetg0atgotcha, thanks.06:11
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tritiums/runing/running06:11
hackit_errorCAN I HACK A WINDOWS USER USING UNBUNTU06:11
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ferossanyone use ubuntu server lts? I just noticed that syslog is not rotating therefore sucking up the whole /var/ partition. Anyone else seen this before. It should be rotated with the /etc/cron.daily/syslogd script but obviously something is not working... going to google it now.06:11
timo901 hackit_error:ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhahha06:12
hackit_errorlol06:12
vox754!caps06:12
ubotuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.06:12
hackit_errorOk06:12
hackit_errorSorry06:12
timo901lol06:12
hackit_errorIs it possible06:12
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timo901yes06:12
hackit_errorok can you teach me06:12
tritiumhackit_error: that's really not an appropriate question or use of ubuntu06:12
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timo901but no one is going to tell you here06:12
hackit_errorwhere do i need to go06:12
ttothezIs there a way to uninstall Ubuntu+Grub without the admin password/Microsoft Xp disk?06:12
trinkoladehackit_error, you have to install the windows-hack-tools trought synaptic06:13
mneptokhackit_error: first? finish middle school.06:13
whimsicalhackit_error, you can hack a windows user using os x, windows, ubuntu, your mother's buntu, etc, etc06:13
timo901why hack use you time constructivly06:13
whimsicalit is not OS dependent06:13
whimsicalso stop aasking dumb quesions06:13
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tritiumhackit_error: consider it offtopic here06:13
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mneptokttothez: boot to Windows and run "fdisk /mbr" from a command prompt. that will overwrite GRUB with the NT bootloader.06:14
midgetg0atbah, something bad happened.06:14
ttothezok, thanks06:14
ttothezi'll be back06:14
midgetg0at"Unable to find the answer INITSCRIPTSDIR in the installer database (/etc/vmware/locations). You may want to re-install VMware Server. Execution abored.06:14
hackit_errori cant find windows hack tools there06:14
GunnyDoes anyone know if r1000 drivers work in Edgy 64bit?06:14
ski-worklapis there a way to tell from the cmdline if my network card has a cable in it?06:14
GunnyI had em working in 32 bit, but they refuse to talk to the network in 64bit06:14
tritiumhackit_error: I told you, it's offtopic.  Stop asking about it.06:14
vox754!offtopic06:14
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!06:14
hackit_errorlol no06:14
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ttothezCommand promp as in CMD right?06:15
ttothezprompt*06:15
mneptokttothez: correct06:15
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ttothezi get fdisk is not recongnized as an internal or external application06:15
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hackit_errorOk so how do i do it and if you dont know where do i go06:15
ttothezcommand*06:16
tritiumhackit_error: last warning06:16
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ski-worklapi see a way to SET the media type of an interface, but not a way to just ask what it is, which seems silly06:16
hackit_erroror what06:16
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mneptokttothez: oh, MS must have removed or disabled it in XP. i don't use Windows, so ...06:16
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ttothezyeah =\06:16
chimaerahey ppl... i have edgy on my laptop nvidia8400go sometimes when i minimize/maximize windows i get a black screen06:16
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timo901chimaera:do you have stuf like xgl06:17
midgetg0atgrrr, how do i uninstall an aborted install of vmware server....06:17
chimaeratimo901: im using xgl and beryl06:17
midgetg0ati cant remove it, uninstaller doesnt work, and i cant reinstall over it....06:17
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Gunnyhackit_error: If you don't know where to go, you shouldn't be asking the question. GO away06:17
chimaeratimo901: im running the nvidia drivers from lupine's repos06:17
tritiumGunny: too late.  I removed him.06:17
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timo901Yeh it could be down to that06:18
GunnyOh, so you did, good man06:18
DorrinalHello, I'm having some trouble with USB after installing ubuntu.06:18
chimaeratimo901: u mean a problem with xgl?06:18
dgmROFL06:18
dint!xgl06:18
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems06:18
Gunny!r100006:18
timo901no, more likely you drivers06:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about r1000 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:19
chimaeratimo901: ok thnx i'll try older ones06:19
chimaerais automatix safe?06:19
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dintcould I use a 3D Desktop in Gnome, I use 6.06 Lts.06:19
tritiumchimaera: it's not advised, no06:19
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PORDOi'm trying to find out whether my microphone inputs are even being registered by alsa.  how can i tell?06:19
chimaeraok06:19
timo901Dorrinal:what you mean by problems what are the symptoms06:19
DorrinalIt won't detect any devices (mouse, wlan, etc)06:20
DorrinalI have this gut feeling I'm screwed as there is no /proc/bus/usb06:20
chimaerais there a quick way to get all the common codecs music and video06:20
timo901ermmm.ever worked before , like inwindows06:20
binarydigitDorrinal: are the usb modules loaded06:20
chimaeralike klite codec pack for windows06:20
Dorrinaltimo901: yes, worked in windows06:20
timo901and can i know the mobo name see if its a known isude in google06:21
timo901issue*06:21
Dorrinalbinarydigit: I believe so.  How can I double-check?06:21
DorrinalSorry don't have the mobo name atm.06:22
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wastrelis there a nice gui tool that lets me see where all my disk space is getting eaten up?06:22
binarydigitDorrinal: lsmod06:22
tritiumchimaera: yes, and it's documented in your help system06:22
tritium!codecs > chimaera06:23
chimaera!codecs06:23
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:23
chimaera!!06:23
binarydigitwastrel: baobab06:23
timo901he shouldn't have to load them its all done default,im guesing the usb worked on the live cd06:23
chimaera!codecs > chimaera06:23
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wastrelthx binarydigit06:24
levanderWhat's the name of the new package that's supposed to add graphics capabilities to GNOME?06:24
binarydigitlevander: what do you mean graphics capabilites06:24
levanderbinarydigit: It's called like beryl or something like that.06:25
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Dorrinalbinarydigit: Thanks.  I don't see a usb module in that list.  Where do I go to install that module?06:25
levanderbinarydigit: it adds 3d effects to the desktop06:25
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Dorrinal(what specifically is the module named?  usb?)06:26
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binarydigitlevander: beryl06:26
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levanderbinarydigit: "apt-cache search beryl" shows up nothing on my machine06:26
PhuzionI have an MP4 file encoded with x264 video, anyone got a suggestion on what program and codecs to install to play it?06:26
binarydigitlevander: #beryl06:26
h3xisPhuzion, vlc06:26
binarydigitDorrinal: modprobe usbcore06:26
NyanNyanKonekolevander, you need to add the beryl repositories to /etc/apt/sources.list06:26
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madman91where can i learn the basics of both client and server ssh procedure... ?06:26
Phuzionh3xis: just apt-get install vlc>?06:27
h3xisyes06:27
Phuzionthanks06:27
timo901mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbkey06:27
levanderNyanNyanKoneko: cool, i'll check the wiki to see if it says anything about those repositories06:27
timo901try that06:27
timo901at own risk06:27
NyanNyanKonekoLevander hold on.06:27
Dorrinalbinarydigit: that seems to have worked.  I can now see /proc/bus/usb06:27
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NyanNyanKonekohttp://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/dists/edgy/beryl-svn/06:27
binarydigitnice!06:28
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DorrinalOk now should I need to perform any acrobatics to get it to reckonize these devices?06:28
levanderOnly the nv driver is in the ubuntu repositories, not the nvidia driver?06:28
xionanytime i use the sudo apt-get command it always comes back E: Couldn't find package06:28
xionanyone know how to fix that?06:29
h3xischeck your sources.list?06:29
Ashton_KAnyone know what package the "wlanconfig" command comes in?06:29
Ashton_KLooks like I need it for my wifi card setup, but the shell doesn't recognize the command.06:30
h3xisAshton_K, try wireless-tools06:31
binarydigitDorrinal: you may need to load some additional modules06:31
chimaerahow do i remove mounted devices icon from my desktop?06:31
Ashton_KRighteo, thanks.06:31
xionill try that , i think i forgot to add it to sources06:31
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madman91can you run a gui under ssh ?06:33
h3xisyes06:33
madman91thanks h3xis06:33
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h3xismadman91, i think it's like X11 forwarding?06:33
h3xisbeen a while06:33
madman91yea06:33
Dorrinalbinarydigit: Depending on the specific devices?06:33
binarydigitDorrinal: yea06:33
madman91i want to setup a makeshift proxy with my computer at home06:33
madman91with ssh06:33
NyanNyanKonekossh <username>@ip06:34
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NyanNyanKonekoAs long as you have an ssh server installed, that's all you should have to do.06:34
chimaerahow do i remove mounted devices icon from my desktop?06:34
madman91NyanNyanKoneko: well.. what about putty?06:34
madman91NyanNyanKoneko: the computers at school are winxp06:34
DorrinalI'm most concerned about my wireless card.  It's supposed to work without any wrestling, so I'll cross my fingers...06:34
NyanNyanKonekoPutty works too.06:35
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mikedotyI knew it06:35
mikedotyThere's like a thousand of y'all in here06:35
NyanNyanKonekoI've never used Putty, but it shouldn't be difficult to enter your SSH information.06:35
h3xischimaera, in your gnome menu, look for "configuration editor" and get back to me06:35
madman91NyanNyanKoneko: will a little window pop up with X and all my gnome goodness?06:35
NyanNyanKonekoNo, it'll be a command promt.06:36
madman91NyanNyanKoneko: how can i make it a gui?06:36
chimaerah3xis: ok im in06:36
NyanNyanKonekomadman91: vino06:37
madman91NyanNyanKoneko: what is vino06:37
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NyanNyanKonekohttp://gnomejournal.org/article/29/remote-desktop-administration-using-vino06:37
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h3xischimaera, open "apps", then "nautilus" then "desktop" then on the right uncheck the box that says "volumes visible"06:37
floatingDoes a program run smoother if I move it to ~/bin/sfa  as it says in readme, that would "find it "useful" ? Problem is that the program is lagging a lot when I run it06:38
chimaerah3xis: wow thnx! btw do u know how to remove applications places system from the panel?06:38
NyanNyanKonekomadman91: Just go to system -> preferences -> remote desktop.06:38
madman91NyanNyanKoneko: thanks06:38
NyanNyanKonekon/p.06:38
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dagnachewhello all06:38
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DorrinalHello dagnachew06:39
h3xischimaera, right click on them and click "remove from panel". then right click on the panel again and click "add to panel" and from there find "gnome menu" or something and it'll just give you the foot06:39
dagnachewplease does anyone had issues with kernel 2.6.19 and nvidia ?06:39
dagnachewhello Dorrinal06:39
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chimaerah3xis: works! thnx again06:40
emunwhat is the best application for watching tv on ubuntu, I have ATI tuner card06:40
h3xisemun, mythtv?06:41
NyanNyanKonekoI think tvtime is another good one.06:41
NyanNyanKonekoAnd it's more suited toward watching TV on a PC as opposed to setting up a media center.06:42
sandeepis there anyway to increase download speed06:42
emunthanks h3xis where can I get mythtv please06:42
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h3xisemun, idk, never used it. google search should help06:42
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wastrel!mythtv06:42
ubotuMythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV06:42
NyanNyanKonekoemun: Look for a myth tv setup guide on the Ubuntu forum.  It's notoriously difficult to get working the first time.  :)06:43
Dorrinalbinarydigit: is there a list of modules somewhere I can browse?06:43
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NyanNyanKonekoDorrinal: system -> administration -> Synaptic Package Manager06:44
DorrinalHeh.  duh.06:44
Ashton_KPossible bug?06:45
Ashton_KLooks like Linux-Restricted-Modules installed in 6.10 without some dependencies in my edgy install (fresh).06:45
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Ashton_K(No internet available on the Edgy box), I reloaded the CD into synaptic, removed the restricted modules, and tried to reinstall them.06:46
Ashton_KAnd it gave me an unresolveable dependancies error.06:46
Ashton_KCompeting packages, or glitch in the installer?06:46
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emunthanks guys Iwill give it a try , and also tvtime will be back soon06:46
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NyanNyanKonekoAshton_K: Running Ubuntu without Internet access is like running a car without tires.  :P06:47
Ashton_KTrue.06:47
Ashton_KBut I'm trying to setup my wireless card.06:47
Ashton_K:P06:47
Ashton_KI need madwifi, which is in the restricted-modules.06:48
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NyanNyanKonekoYou can download the deb to a disk.06:48
Ashton_KBut, just using the CD alone (which installed it the first time), it tells me I can't install it.06:48
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Ashton_KUnresolveable dependencies.06:48
btrentohey does anyone here use gkrellm and if so could maybe answer a question for me please?06:48
Max_-How can I change the keymap??? on a server ubuntu 6.10 fresh installation06:48
Ashton_KSounds like a problem to me, if it installed the first time, and it turned out it didn't have everything I needed.06:48
Ashton_KDamn, I knew where that file was, once.06:48
Ashton_KSomewhere in /etc/init.d/keymap?06:49
NyanNyanKonekoHmm...  There's no ethernet port on your computer?06:49
h3xisbtrento, i do06:49
Ashton_Kkeyboard-setup, close.06:49
Ashton_KThere's an ethernet port, I'm upstairs though.06:49
Ashton_KRouter is downstairs.06:49
Ashton_K(In case you're wondering, I have 2 boxes, and a KVM switch. I'm using box 1 with wireless)06:49
btrentoh3xis: Do you use gnome?06:49
h3xisyes.06:50
lorican anyone help me configure built in wireless on a Presario v4000? I have just installed Ubuntu 6.1006:50
Ashton_KI've figured out how I'm gonna do this tomorrow (I think), but I'm intrigued why the CD tells me it doesn't have everything to install restricted-modules.06:50
NyanNyanKonekoif you have a laptop, you can plug your ethernet cable into your laptop's ethernet port and share your laptop's wireless connection to your PC.06:50
Ashton_KPC.06:50
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Ashton_KI'm gonna haul it down to the router tomorrow.06:50
h3xislori, possibly. is it recognized by ubuntu out of the box?06:50
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loriyep, but wireless hardware button doesnt work06:51
Ashton_KLori, what chipset does that use?06:51
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NyanNyanKonekoAshton_K, probably because there's some library it needs off the internet.  I don't know.  :)06:51
Ashton_KWell.06:51
btrentoh3xis: This might be a stupid question but do you know of a way to keep it from minimizing when hitting the show desktop06:51
Ashton_KIt shouldn't need libraries off the internet, if it installed off the disc the first time.06:51
Ashton_KThat's the point06:51
Ashton_KI can fix it, tomorrow.06:51
Ashton_KI'm just pointing out the flaw in the installer.06:51
rebeccahey peoples. my azureus keeps getting the error message "Disk read error, NullPointerException" showing in the status of each torrent. the torrents do work for a while until this happens and they halt downloading. anyone else had this prob?06:51
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loritotal noob question: how do i find out what chipset im using?06:51
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NyanNyanKonekoAshton, I understand.  It's just goofy.  It's Linux after all.06:51
Ashton_KGoogle your wifi card.06:52
Ashton_KIndeed Nyan.06:52
lorik06:52
Ashton_KIf you're lucky, it'll be Atheros or ACX-10006:52
dxdthello everyone06:52
h3xisbtrento, under configuration, there's a section on "stay on top" and stuff. does that work?06:52
Ashton_K(Altough ACX is easier on Gentoo, just "emerge acx")06:52
btrentoh3xis: no not in gnome in kde it does06:52
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h3xisbtrento, it does in mine and im on gnome06:52
Ashton_KAnyone here know if Gentoo has a channel on this server?06:53
h3xisbtrento, Configuration > General > Properties06:53
h3xisAshton_K, #gentoo06:53
Ashton_KAh, screw that, that's a headache I'll postpone until tomorrow, now that I think about it.06:53
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Ashton_K1 AM is a bad time to deal with a source based distribution.06:53
vanbergeanybody know a quick/easy way to play rmvb files?  thanks in advance...06:53
NyanNyanKonekoAshton_K, I think there are some distros that are more liberal with the binary drivers.06:53
midgetg0atInstalling XP via VMware server :)06:54
lorintel PRO/Wireless 2200 802.11BG WLAN is what it says on the compaq site.06:54
midgetg0ati'd love to rid myself of two machines...my other box is so loud.06:54
NyanNyanKonekoMandriva one comes to mind, as well as some pastry OS from Italy...  I forget its name.  :P06:54
loriI'm still trying to find a "chipset" for this laptop. (compaq presario v4310nr)06:54
Ashton_KNyan, true, but I want a crash course in "What the hell is going on in there?"06:54
btrentog3xis: ok i have stick state,set on top, do not include on pager and do not include on taskbar, What do you have different06:54
Ashton_KAnd if crash turns out to be literal, so be it.06:54
h3xislori, your chipset is ipw220006:54
NyanNyanKonekohahaha, OK.06:55
Ashton_KThe Ubuntu box is for a business.06:55
Ashton_KLinux computing solutions for those fed up with Windows.06:55
Ashton_K(Was gonna be openSUSE, but it'd violate the EULA)06:55
lorithanks h3xis. :) now how do i get my built in wireless to work?06:55
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h3xislori, it should already work06:55
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NyanNyanKonekoYeah, Ubuntu might be a little difficult for first time users, but as long as you're doing all the administering, it should be fine.  :)06:56
Ashton_KSystem > Administration > Networking06:56
loriyou are right, it does work, ish. heh. the wireless hardware light doesnt come on when i'm using wlan06:56
h3xisbtrento, same stuff06:56
Ashton_KWell, I'm in charge of setting up the computers.06:56
h3xisbtrento, if none of that works, then there's nothing else you can do06:56
Ashton_KSoftware, drivers, etc.06:56
Ashton_KMy dad's doing networking, and some RAID stuff.06:56
Ashton_KI also build the machines.06:56
wastrelbusiness eh06:56
Ashton_KThis is our first test platform.06:56
h3xislori, so it works, just no light?06:56
luke_Does anyone know how new kernel packages are automatically installed on ubuntu via apt-get? each package is a new package, but 'apt-get upgrade' only upgrades existing packages, so why do new kernels get installed?06:56
btrentoh3xis: and yours does not minimize when you hit the show desktop, wierd06:57
lorih3xis: yes06:57
h3xisbtrento, i dont use show desktop ;)06:57
h3xislori, not sure about that :/ let me check google06:57
Ashton_Klori, the wireless light isn't directly connected to the antenna on the same circuit.06:57
lorih3xis, thanks for any input you might have.06:57
wastrelluke_:  there's a metapackage called linux-image-generic that is updated, and depends on the current kernel06:57
Ashton_KIt's on a separate circuit, normally windows fires that LED everytime a big packet comes through.06:57
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Ashton_KLinux doesn't know it's there, but at very least it can find the antenna, which is slightly more important.06:58
wastrelor more generally, linux-image-[architecture] 06:58
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loriAshton_K, do you think there's any way that this wireless LED will work on my ubuntu side? (dual booting here)06:58
btrentoh3xis: Thanks for your help, i guess i will just have to live with it.  Not a big deal though06:58
Ashton_KNo clue.06:58
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bcstvNumbers do not work when in num lock but work when numlock off. How do I reverse this?06:59
h3xislori, your other LEDs work right?06:59
Ashton_KTo be honest, that'd probably require a modification of the wireless driver.06:59
Ashton_KSince it'd talk through the same socket (or whatever).06:59
lorih3xis, yes, all other led's work just fine out of the box06:59
luke_wastrel: yeah, but every kernel-image-X.XX.XX-XXX package is a *new* package, and all the doco i can find on apt-get says that only 'apt-get dist-upgrade' will install new packages...07:00
loriinteresting.  I'm a complete noob and i admit it. so working out a mod for my driver will take me some time. :D07:00
h3xislori07:00
h3xistry this07:00
h3xissudo echo "options ipw2200 led=1" >> /etc/modprobe.d/ipw2200.modprobe07:00
loriK, i'm all ears.07:00
h3xisgive that a go, and then reboot07:00
Ashton_KOh, the driver includes the led, lucky you.07:00
Ashton_K:P07:00
h3xisor reload the driver07:00
NyanNyanKonekoSo what does everyone think about Windows being more secure than Linux?  http://www.itweb.co.za/sections/computing/2004/0411031104.asp07:00
Ashton_KOr restart networking.07:00
NyanNyanKonekoIs it a joke or what?07:00
h3xisive never had a problem with windows and security :P07:01
surface_NyanNyanKoneko, is it a joke?07:01
Max_-ehmm there's something to do with that keyboard-setup script???..   I don't see how to use it to get my keymap as CF07:01
Ashton_KI've never been hacked.07:01
wastrelluke_:  what happens is the linux-image-generic package is an existing package on your system, and is updated to depend on the new kernel.  to resolve this dependency for the existing linux-image-generic package, the new kernel is installed.07:01
Ashton_KNever had a problem with viruses.07:01
Ashton_KJust crashing.07:01
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Ashton_KIt isn't acceptable that a Windows application (Word), crashes while running on Windows.07:01
chimaerawats linux-restricted-modules for07:01
surface_security is not an issues for windows, but windows user07:01
Ashton_KThey're modules made by other people.07:02
Ashton_KIncluded by their permission.07:02
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chimaerak07:02
Ashton_KBut if you wanna change them, you have to go talk to the different teams that made them.07:02
lorih3xis, i ran that command in a terminal, got a "permission denied". so i logged in as root and then ran command.  nothing seemed to happen.  Is that to be expected?07:02
A-L-P-H-A_what's the command in the shell to give me the current linux kernel version?07:02
Ashton_KLike, the nVidia driver is in there, along with Madwifi, etc.07:02
Ashton_Kuname -r07:02
h3xislori, yes07:02
Crescendo_sox: Can't open output file '/dev/dsp': Device or resource busy - How can I make it so anything can access sound, no matter what?07:02
A-L-P-H-A_Ashton_K, thanks.07:02
lorik07:02
surface_A-L-P-H-A_, uname -a07:02
h3xislori, now restart networking07:02
h3xisand see if it works07:02
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Ashton_Ktry /etc/init.d/networking restart07:03
Ashton_KThat should do it.07:03
lorih3xis, is there a command that'll allow me to restart without having to lost this connection?07:03
h3xisnope07:03
Ashton_KSee above.07:03
h3xisdo as Ashton_K said07:03
lori(rblarg07:03
lorik, restarting ;)07:03
luke_wastrel: ahhh ok, it's starting to make sense now.. thnx07:03
Ashton_KMan, this case is nice. But... It's big as hell. Lugging it downstairs isn't fun.07:04
Ashton_KBut compared to screwless PCI, and drive mounting, I think it was worth it.07:04
midgetg0atyea, body bags do get quite heavy07:04
fiveironcan any of you guys see this video stream:  http://aarondunlap.homeip.net:8080  ?07:04
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chimaerahow do i treat my ipod as a harddisk, and how do i copy movies into my ipod07:04
lorii just disabled wireless and reenabled. h3xis, should that be enough to see a change?07:04
chimaeracan amarok do it?07:04
h3xischimaera, can you mount it?07:05
h3xislori, yes07:05
chimaerayes i can mount it07:05
wastrelnight07:05
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lorii dont see me little blue light. *sniff*07:05
h3xischimaera, then that's treating it as a hard drive07:05
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chimaerah3xis: ooo ok07:05
h3xislori, try this: rmmod ipw2200 then when it's done with that do modprobe ipw2200 all as root. you will lose your connection too07:06
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Ashton_KNyan, I think the issue is.07:06
Ashton_KThat Linux, due to the fast rate of development.07:06
Ashton_KIs actually full of holes.07:06
CientificoLocohello, how do I get a graphic interfase for stp ?07:06
Ashton_KThey change a lot though.07:06
Ashton_KSo keeping track of holes, is hard.07:06
h3xisCientificoLoco, stp?07:07
CientificoLocohello, how do I get a graphic interfase for sftp ?07:07
Ashton_KAnd if you look at an even number of assaults on all 4 OS's, while ignoring the percentage assaults each get, you'll get skewed results.07:07
Ashton_KBasically, they should fire their statistician.07:07
loriOMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!H3xis you're a genius!!!! *kiss*07:07
h3xis:)07:07
rolerI have a slight issue playing DVD's in Edgy. Using MPlayer, the video is ever so slightly jumping - it goes in bursts. Using gxine, the video is complete smooth, but after a while, the sound is not in sync with the video... What can I do for either of these players?07:08
lori*dances* You dont know how long I've been wrestling with this issue. (sigh)07:08
h3xishaha. youre lucky. this is my first time here and you caught me at the right time07:08
corinCientificoLoco, i believe that gftp will handle the sftp protocol, although i could be wrong07:08
h3xisi decided to chill here for a while. i run debian myself and got bored :P07:08
loriI have more than my fair share of luck, its true.  :)07:08
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loriyay!07:09
Ashton_KLucky indeed.07:09
Ashton_KHardware support has always been the bane of Linux.07:09
midgetg0ati've never seen an install of xp go so smooth & fast, vmware is magic :)07:09
Ashton_KRoler, what video card?07:09
loriah, debian was the precursor to ubuntu, wasnt it?07:09
h3xisyes07:09
Ashton_KNo, Debian is still out there.07:09
Ashton_KWe're just closely related.07:09
lori:)07:09
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lorithanks for your support too, Ashton_K.  I love god-like support techs.07:10
Ashton_K:P07:10
rolerAshton_K, Intel 950GMA. Pretty new laptop, Core Duo 1.6 gig07:10
Ashton_KYou're welcome (although I'm just a high schooler whose up too late)07:10
loriI'm soooooo stoked, if you can't tell.07:10
orestyle9I loved the presentation for Ubuntu at OSCON 2006... Very nice!07:10
h3xishaha lori, any other problems?07:10
lorii loved ubuntu from the very start, but being a noob slowed my progress a tad.07:10
Ashton_KWhat kinda chipset is in that Roler, ATI, nVidia, or other?07:10
Ashton_KLinux is harder to get used to.07:11
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rolerAshton_K, Intel 94507:11
Ashton_KLinux can break, but the nice thing, is if it breaks, you know that it's due to something you did.07:11
lorihmm, lemme think.  I have xgl beryl installed... i think i fixed that stuff on my own.07:11
Ashton_KHrm, check the forums and see if there are any packages with modules you can use.07:11
midgetg0atwhats beryl? Eye candy?07:11
loriI broke my first ubuntu install, lol.  had to reload.07:11
Ashton_K2 boxes for me.07:11
midgetg0ati've broken several lori...dont feel bad.07:11
loriit was all my own fault tho. :)07:11
Ashton_KFirst one is half windows, half Gentoo.07:11
corinmidgetg0at, beryl is the lovechild of compiz, and yes, it's secksi eyecandy07:12
Ashton_K(Gamer)07:12
lorik, i wont.07:12
Ashton_KThe other box is all Ubuntu.07:12
h3xisiv eonly used one release of ubuntu and it was warty07:12
Ashton_KI've used Dapper and Edgy.07:12
midgetg0atok - wasnt sure. I installed xgl compiz stuff a while back....is beryl stable?07:12
Ashton_KI need to fix my Gentoo partition though.07:12
orestyle9That the fun.  Try try again with the install..07:12
lorihow did you like warty, h3xis?07:12
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Ashton_KMidget, depends which version you're using.07:12
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h3xislori, no. that's why dont use ubuntu ;)07:12
h3xisi*07:12
syteis 6.0.10 buggy?07:12
CientificoLococorin, ... it cant connect tieh the server..07:13
midgetg0atno, beryl07:13
Ashton_KThe installer is, a *tiny* bit.07:13
Crescendo_sox: Can't open output file '/dev/dsp': Device or resource busy - How can I make it so anything can access sound, no matter what?07:13
corini don't think beryl is stable, but it runs fine on all the machines i've had it on...it depends on version...or like Ashton_K said :)07:13
midgetg0atcompiz used to crash x on me. so i stopped using it.07:13
orestyle9I am currently using Kubuntu with small issues, but nothing major07:13
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corinCientificoLoco, what exactly is it saying?07:13
Ashton_KAdd that user to teh sound group.07:13
sytebecause the loader dosent show me the processes that are turning on by default07:13
NyanNyanKonekoBeryl is OK, but it seems to not handle video very well, which is why I turn it off with any graphics-intensive application is being used.07:13
sytenor does the loading bar load completely07:13
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lorimidgetg0at, yes, beryl is the most awesomestest eye candy ever.07:13
NyanNyanKonekoNow if we could just port Beryl to FreeBSD...  yom...07:14
lorii love 3d jive.07:14
Ashton_K*googles*07:14
midgetg0at;) i've used compiz, just wanna know if it's stable :)07:14
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Max_-... what's the command to change the keymap ?07:14
syteanyone else having problems with 6.0.10 and the loading screen?07:14
Ashton_KIt's not a command.07:14
Ashton_KSee /etc/init.d07:14
NyanNyanKonekoI did with the 64 bit version.07:14
Ashton_KThere's something in there like "keymaps"07:14
corinmidget, compiz was stable, then they split the codebase to beryl...i do believe the newest complete version (non SVN) is stable enough to use07:14
Ashton_KOr whatever.07:14
Ashton_KNano it.07:15
h3xisMax_-, run dpkg-reconfigure console-data07:15
Max_-yeah, I saw your little script.. but it does NOTHING07:15
NyanNyanKonekoI installed the 32 bit version and the loading screen was OK.07:15
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Max_-h3xis thanks07:15
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Ashton_KOne of these days I need to see if I can configure the extended keys on my keyboard.07:15
orestyle9Have you noticed if beryl is cpu intensive?  Does it run smooth on slower machines?07:15
lorih3xis, i have just remembered another issue this laptop seems to have.07:15
Max_-not installed... damn07:15
sytei installed themes on 6.0.6 (no loading screen themes). Could this have possibly affected my loading screen for 6.0.10?07:16
h3xislori, ?07:16
Ashton_KDepends whether you have 2d/3d hardware acceleration for your card I'd imagine.07:16
lorithe hibernate feature doesnt seem to work when i close laptop lid.07:16
h3xisMax_-, better install then :P07:16
NyanNyanKonekoorestyle: It depends on what effects you have active.07:16
Flannelorestyle9: you might try asking in #ubuntu-xgl, or #beryl (or even #xgl).07:16
Ashton_K(Always buy nVidia, they release drivers for us)07:16
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lori(i have tried to configure it, but changes made dont seem to stay.)07:16
h3xislori, check that under Preferences > Power Management in gnome, i think07:16
Flannelsyte: did you install the themes for 6.06 (no second period) through package management? or what?07:16
corini have beryl running on an old 333mhz machine with a Ti4200 (i believe), and it runs pretty well07:16
orestyle9wow, there is even a channel for beryl...  sweet07:16
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Ashton_KThere's a channel for everything.07:17
sytethe gnome art website07:17
Ashton_KThis is freenode, sounds kinda like an open source catch phrase doesn't it?07:17
Ashton_KThere's probably free-BSD and open-BSD channels in here.07:17
linlinanyone know of a vista-like sidebar for linux?07:17
orestyle9I have a 500 mhz with 512  and running kubuntu is a little slow, but it works.  Hope I can at least try out beryl07:17
Flannelsyte: then yes, it's most likely still there, and still affecting 6.10 (which also has no middle 0)07:17
lorii have toggled the changes in gnome before.  I may have to spend some time on the hibernate problem now that my pretty blue wireless light is on. *silly grin*07:17
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midgetg0ateek orestyle9, that sounds like the making of a Beryl hater07:17
h3xisalright07:18
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corinthey should change it to openfreenode or opennode to complete the open source-esque naming scheme07:18
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Flannellinlin: You'd have to describe "vista like sidebar", since most of us haven't used/seen vista07:18
linlinoh ok07:18
syteso i  might as well take this theme off07:18
CientificoLocohello, how do I get a graphic interfase for sftp ?07:18
sytethx07:18
orestyle9too much for my machine?07:18
linlinwell its a bar...on the side of the screen, similar to widgets or whatever for mac os07:18
Ashton_KFlannel, a dock bar.07:18
h3xisfreenode used to be called the open projects network07:18
corinCientificoLoco, does gftp not work? if not, what error does it give?07:18
midgetg0atI would think it would be...those are some pretty low specs.07:18
linlinwhere you can load little modules and stuff like weather, news, whatever07:18
Ashton_KI wonder if Objectbar by Stardock has a Linux variant?07:19
corinlinlin, gdesklets is what you want i think07:19
lorih3xis &Ashton_nK, thanks for your knowledge!  I'm gonna play on the internet now *hug*07:19
Flannellinlin: ah, yeah.  There's... plenty.  Been around for a while.  gDesklets is one.  for KDE there's superkaramba (or something like that), and many more07:19
h3xisgood luck07:19
dxdtwhat is gdesklets?07:19
Ashton_KProgram.07:19
dxdtI've always been kinda curious about that07:19
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Ashton_KSounds like a widget program.07:19
lorithanks :)07:19
dlainhartapt-get install gdesklets07:19
fromvegahello07:19
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orestyle9linlin:  there are some cool widgets for opera that you might be interested in...07:19
corindxdt, a widget management program07:19
NyanNyanKonekoHey, if I wanted to update the zsnes deb in the repositories, how would one go about helping out in that manor?07:19
fuoxxhi07:19
corinlike OS X's dashboard07:19
Ashton_K(Tempted to try and code something similar to the Yahoo widgets engine, that'll accept .widget files)07:19
dxdtcorin, is there a good number of widgets or is it pretty meh07:19
dlainhartNyan:07:20
FlannelNyanNyanKoneko: is it in universe? or main?07:20
Ashton_KOn my windows partition (ducks), I have object bar.07:20
dlainhartget the source for the deb package07:20
NyanNyanKonekoUniverse, I believe.07:20
Ashton_KTabbed taskbar anyone? Yes please.07:20
dlainharte.g. apt-get source zsnes07:20
corindxdt, it's got a good user base...i have been able to find whatever i need and evidently it's not too hard to just make your own if you should need to07:20
dlainhartnext, you07:20
dxdtcorin, cool, I'll check it out07:20
fromvegahow do I make changes in the ip_forward file permanent so it remains the same after a reboot?07:20
dlainhartwant to take a look at the debian/ directory in the extracted package source directory07:20
dlainhartfromvega: sysctl.conf07:20
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spikebAshton_K: there already is something similar to the yahoo widgets engine being worked on07:20
Ashton_KTake away everyone's write capability for it.07:20
dxdtfromvega, like in iptables?07:20
Ashton_KCooll.07:21
dlainhartI'm assuming you're doing something like echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ip_forward07:21
dlainhartor whatever07:21
Ashton_KWill it support yahoo widgets?07:21
dxdtyou need sudo iptables-save07:21
spikebAshton_K: yes07:21
Ashton_KOr is that some closed format, or whatever?07:21
Ashton_KCOol.07:21
FlannelNyanNyanKoneko: actally, it's in multiverse.  No idea why.  Could be there's no source, could be other issues.07:21
Ashton_KI've got about 8 of those things on my windows desktop, I want identical functionality on my Linux desktop.07:21
FlannelNyanNyanKoneko: if it's the former, you probably can't do much except file bug reports with the original author07:21
spikebAshton_K: the project is called jackfield, i have no idea how far along it is.07:21
corinaren't yahoo .widget files just a mashup of images, javascript, and XML (or some other parsed language?)07:21
Ashton_K(I'll probably have to copy any DLLs they refer to though, oh well)07:21
dlainhartdxdt: Will iptables-save actually do that? As far as I figured it just saved the IP tables.07:21
Ashton_KXML and .js07:21
Ashton_KPlus images.07:21
fromvegadlainhart: tks07:21
spikebAshton_K: http://www.kryogenix.org/code/jackfield/introduction07:21
Ashton_K.widget is actually just a .zip file renamed.07:22
dlainhartIP forwarding is a switch in /proc07:22
fromvegadxdt: kind of07:22
ncetervalI've been having problems getting dm-crypt partitions mounted at boot after installing edgy and I think I may have stumbled upon the problem: /etc/init.d/cryptdisks seems to be incomplete (looks almost empty, no mention of "crypttab").  Could anyone show me a working example?07:22
FlannelAshton_K: superkaramba is the basis for "yahoo widgets" if I remember correctly, and are compatable.07:22
NyanNyanKonekoOh, OK.07:22
Ashton_KToo bad I have gnome.07:22
Ashton_K:P07:22
NyanNyanKonekoThank you.  :)07:22
spikebyeah jackfield is for gnome, and nowhere near primetime i'd suspect heh07:22
FlannelAshton_K: gdesklets is probably similar.  I've never really used it (not having gnome, or kde).  You might try checking it's website.07:22
orestyle9I've been looking for something to help me with my Adult Body Mass....07:23
dlainhartIf you want to update or create Debian packages, you'll want to have experience building packages from source, and specifically, experience with makefiles.07:23
fromvegaDo you know any site with samples of squid.conf?07:23
Ashton_KWonder if Jackfield is stable  yet.07:23
dlainhartDebian packages are built with standard makefiles.07:23
spikebgdesklets is similar, sure, but it's not actually compatible heh, whereas jackfield will be07:23
spikebAshton_K: apparently not07:23
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NyanNyanKonekoorestyle9: Try Stepmania.07:23
spikebah well.07:23
NyanNyanKonekoYou'll lose weight like crazy.07:23
Ashton_KI don't have a partition of Linux that I can call "mine", this Ubuntu distro is not mine to ruin, or whatever.07:23
Ashton_KSo no unstable releases for this box.07:23
Lam_what's the terminal command to check to see how much space i have on my partition? (or just general hard drive status)07:24
dlainhartdf07:24
corinNyan, Stepmania? the finger one?07:24
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ncetervalCan anyone help me with this dm-crypt problem?  It's been bugging me all day.07:24
spikebAshton_K: haha, good idea that.07:24
Ashton_KOnce I get Gentoo up, I might emerge KDE and try super karamba, or gnome and jackfield.07:24
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FlannelAshton_K: you *can* install superkaramba on a gnome box.  Nothing saying you can't.07:24
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noodles12where do i save bash scripts to run?07:24
orestyle9NyanNyanKoneko:  I am all over that..  :)07:24
Ashton_KWell, this box isn't mine to do that kinda stuff to.07:24
NyanNyanKonekoStepmania can use dance pads.  They also have a good linux port.  :)07:24
h3xisnoodles12, wherever you want :P07:24
Ashton_KThis box will be for sale, or at least serious testing.07:24
Ashton_KNot my own personal use and pleasure.07:24
dlainhartnoodles12: what do you mean? are you talking about the system path?07:24
NyanNyanKonekoThe Linux Kernel also has built in support for DDR Pads.07:24
FlannelAshton_K: sounds like you couldn't install anything on it, so you're out of luck anyway.07:24
spikebAshton_K: looks like gdesklets will also support yahoo widgets in the next major version.07:25
Rageagainstthisneed a little assistance.  I need to enable a user to write to a mounted samba share.07:25
Ashton_KWell, I can install anything that I think the customers will want.07:25
Ashton_K:P07:25
h3xisNyanNyanKoneko, what's it called in the kernel config?07:25
NyanNyanKonekoI personally run stepmania in Windows though.  :P07:25
Ashton_KFirst priority is getting stuff in order, drivers, etc.07:25
corinyeah, i run it in windows too07:25
dlainharth3xis: It's somewhere in either joysticks or USB devices07:25
NyanNyanKonekoI have no idea.  I think xpad is for the x-box DDR pad conversion.07:25
Ashton_KMy own computer is for experimentation.07:25
Ashton_K(Once I fix grub)07:25
h3xisah, never noticed it and i just built a kernel this morning :P07:25
noodles12dlainhart: i wrote this bash script. and it won't run. so i thought i had to save it to a particular folder to get it to work07:25
h3xisnoodles12, how are you running it07:25
dlainhartnoodles12: nope07:26
dlainhartdoes it start with #!/bin/bash?07:26
dlainhartif not that's your first problem07:26
Ashton_KBeat me to it.07:26
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noodles12yea it starts w/ #!/bin/bash07:26
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dlainhart(if it doesn't you can still run it with 'bash /path/to/script.sh' of course)07:26
Ashton_KWonder if I'll get more ram for christmas.07:26
dlainhartis it chmod'd +x?07:26
Ashton_KI want more.07:26
Ashton_K:P07:26
noodles12i just saved it to my home folder07:26
h3xisnoodles12, how are you running it07:27
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noodles12dlainhart: oh... >.<07:27
Ashton_KProbably just clicking on it.07:27
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noodles12h3xis:  i was just typing the name of the file to try adn run it07:27
dlainhartah07:27
h3xisah07:27
h3xisthere you go07:27
dlainhartThat only works if the executable bit is set :-)07:27
Ashton_KAnd if you're in the right directory, too.07:28
Ashton_K(Unless if you refer to the whole path)07:28
dlainhartAshton_K: that's only if . is in $PATH07:28
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dlainhartthe standard $PATH is /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin, so it still won't work.07:29
noodles12ok i made it executable and i ran teh script and it says command not found still. i am in my home folder where the file is07:29
dlainhartnoodles12: This isn't DOS. :-)07:29
dlainharttry ./name_of_script.sh07:29
dlainhartinstead of name_of_script.sh07:29
noodles12dlainhart: that worked.07:29
Ashton_K./ operater is a good thing to use a lot.07:29
dlainhartIt's not really an operator07:29
Ashton_KIt'll save your ass when you use a distro that demands it.07:29
Ashton_KWell, for lack of proper terminology, it's an operator.07:30
dlainhart'.' just refers to the current directory. Same thing in DOS.07:30
Ashton_KShh.07:30
Ashton_KMy point stands.07:30
Shadow_milhow can I install cinelerra?07:30
dlainhartHahaha.07:30
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Ashton_KGo and steal my moment, why don't you?07:30
Shadow_milI downloaded the source... but when I try to configure it...07:30
Ashton_K:P07:30
Shadow_milo wait.. I need something lol07:30
Shadow_milnvm07:30
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FirstStrike=\07:31
Ashton_KThere are no proper analogies to compare that situation to.07:31
h3xisslackware <307:31
FirstStrikeMy first distro was Mandrake..before it became Mandriva07:31
Ashton_KI'm tempted to try LOAF.07:31
noodles12dlainhart: alright i was wondering how come i had to do ./filename isntead of just the filename if it is set ax an executbale already? but someone else's script runs with just the name of the file?07:31
Ashton_KJust, for the heck of it.07:31
dlainhartnoodles12: By default, the current directory isn't in the executable path.07:31
corinMy first was Red Hat 6.2...and i still hate it as much today as i did then07:31
Ashton_KUbuntu was first for me, then Kubuntu, Xubuntu, openSUSE, rPath (ew), Gentoo....07:31
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dlainhartwhen you type a command, the shell looks for the command in the $PATH07:31
FirstStrikeMandrake kinda sucked too07:31
dlainhartMandrake was neat but it was unstable as all hell07:32
Ashton_KrPath is bad, stay away.07:32
Ashton_KI could not, for the life of me, find a kernel source or tree.07:32
jbroomewhat?07:32
FirstStrikeKubuntu and Xubuntu are essentially the same thing..just different dm's07:32
dlainhartI've never heard of rPath.07:32
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Ashton_KIt's new.07:32
noodles12dlainhart: ooh i see. thanks07:32
Ashton_KMade by some ex red hat guys.07:32
h3xishaha07:32
h3xisi know a guy who works for rpath07:32
corinrPath is a funny name ;)07:32
Ashton_KThink of it of as a bad mix between red hat and Gentoo.07:32
dlainhartHeh07:32
dlainhartWhen I hear the word "rpath" I think about dynamic libraries.07:32
h3xishe swears by it and its hideous package manager07:32
Ashton_KI couldn't for the life of me, find a kernel source, even when following the commands they told me.07:32
Ashton_KThe problem is it's designed to use their arbitrary rBuilder, ONLY.07:33
dlainhartnoodles12: This is as opposed to DOS, which automatically prepends the current directory to the path.07:33
Ashton_KIf you try and compile anything else, you're SCREWED, because there is no traditional kernel source or tree.07:33
dlainhartIf you want the same behavior, you can always add "." to the $PATH07:33
corina proprietary builder? how far do they wanna go with that?07:33
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Ashton_KIt's buried somewhere, or something.07:33
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Ashton_KThey claim it's a multi use builder for user environments, packages, etc.07:33
dlainhartHowever, it's probably a good idea to get used to ./blah.sh for many reasons07:33
Ashton_KSafer.07:34
dlainhartadding the current directory to the PATH can be insecure, if you think about it07:34
dlainhartif you still want to do it you can but neckbearded UNIX zealots will flame you for it07:34
Ashton_KYeah, well.07:34
dlainhartsecond, no unix environment I've ever seen is set to do that by default07:34
Ashton_KUnix users will go on holy wars for very light reasons.07:34
h3xisneckbearded unix zealots07:34
h3xisomg you mean teh RMS??!?!07:34
dlainhartThat's because they can't get laid.07:35
Flannel!offtopic07:35
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!07:35
Ashton_KShh.07:35
Ashton_K:P07:35
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dlainhartRMS may be a pain in the ass and a total zealot but he deserves respect and he's good to have around.07:35
Ashton_KI like this KVM switcher, hit scroll lock twice to switch.07:35
Ashton_KHooray.07:35
h3xisdlainhart, i concur07:35
Ashton_KNever met him.07:36
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dlainhartAnd he did write Emacs.07:36
h3xisand hurd, lawl07:36
dlainhartAshton_K: http://www.stallman.org/07:36
spikebheh my bud jake has a KVM and his keypress is like eight keys to switch07:36
Ashton_KUnix zealots are dangerous, and possibly annoying. But handy, because they tend to be knowleable.07:36
dlainhartYou mean GNU/Hurd?07:36
corinAshton, which KVM are you using?07:36
h3xisyeah...07:36
dlainhartAshton_K: Agreed. You just gotta keep them submissive.07:36
Ashton_KIt's by IO gear.07:36
PORDOcan someone help me access my mic input on my ICH5?07:36
Ashton_KUhhh.07:36
Ashton_KHold on.07:36
spikebyou can have your very own virtual RMS, just install vrms07:36
spikebyes, it is in the repo07:37
dlainhartOnce they start powertripping they're impossible to deal with.07:37
Ashton_Klol, ew.07:37
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h3xisis hurd still in dev?07:37
Ashton_K"Support the Green Party"07:37
dlainhartCase in point: Theo de Raadt07:37
Ashton_KPolitics, on a comp site, ew.07:37
avalonIf I'm trying to find out what /dev/bus/usb/00whatever my USB device is plugged into, how could I do that knowing it's plugged into usb 1-2: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 607:37
spikebfree software is inherently political.07:37
dlainhartYeah, Hurd's supposedly still in development.07:37
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h3xis"supposedly"07:37
spikebyes, hurd is still plodding along.07:37
dlainhartHurd is a neat idea.07:38
dlainhartI'll run it when it's useful enough07:38
h3xisit'll release when duke nukem forever does07:38
Flannelguys, please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic07:38
spikebavalon: try typing lsusb07:38
dlainhartavalon: Is there something like lspci for USB? If so that's probably your ticket07:38
Ashton_Kdlainhart: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681710740707:38
dlainhartthanks spikeb07:38
spikebdlainhart: you bet07:38
mdasilvaHello07:38
raxipHello07:39
Ashton_KPS2 only, so you'll lose extra buttons on your multi-button mouse, if applicable.07:39
Ashton_KBut, $20, so.07:39
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Ashton_KThe scroll lock thing is SO much better than reaching for an actual switch.07:39
avalonThere's a lsusb, but it just outputs the same Bus 001 Device 006: ID 1391:1000 style. I  need to find out specifically the /dev name it's under. Its the format I need to make an entry into the xorg with07:39
Ashton_K(My dad's KVM is dying, the connections are weak, so the monitor flickers different colors, like if you slowly pull out the cable)07:40
dlainhartavalon: what kind of device is it?07:40
raxipgood07:40
mdasilvayou tell me07:40
dlainhartI know USB joysticks go into /dev/input/07:40
spikebavalon: 006, i would think07:40
dlainhartat least if I remember right07:40
Ashton_KThe trick is getting all those extra buttons to work.07:40
dlainhartIn the end it's a udev thing07:40
avalonIt's a USB connection to my touchscreen monitor.07:41
Ashton_KThe answer is, learn C++, write a driver....07:41
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Ashton_KOoh.07:41
dlainhartC++?07:41
corinevil C++07:41
dlainhartWhat kind of psychopath writes drivers in C++?07:41
chimaerai have eth0 and lo.. wats lo07:41
h3xisloopback interface07:41
dlainhartC is all you need07:41
corinlo = loopback07:41
Ashton_KTrue.07:41
corinfor testing and the like07:41
chimaeraok07:41
Ashton_KBut C++ by nature includes C.07:41
dlainhartAshton_K: Not technically ;-)07:41
Ashton_KIf you know C++, you know C.07:41
dxdtyeah but  C++ isn't good for things like drivers07:41
dlainhartIt's technically <i>not</i> a strict superset07:41
Ashton_KJust be sure you don't refer to some syntax that doesn't exist.07:42
spikeband if you know objective-c, go help gnustep07:42
dlainhartAshton_K: That's not true either.07:42
Ashton_KYes, yes, I know.07:42
dxdtgeneral rule is that C for low level, C++ for bigger stuff07:42
Ashton_K:P07:42
Ashton_KDon't use object, be careful with the syntax.07:42
dlainhartIf you're an OOP or generics dweeb and you get thrown into C you'll write a *lot* of terrible code.07:42
Ashton_KBut, they're very close.07:42
jbroome!offtopic | Ashton_K dlainhart07:42
ubotuAshton_K dlainhart: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!07:42
Ashton_KCloser than say, C and VB.07:42
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Ashton_KMan, you guys are strict about that, all right.07:42
dlainhartI'll continue this in #ubuntu-offtopic07:42
jbroomeexcellent idea!07:42
Ashton_KI'm sticking around here, touchscreens is something I'm interested in.07:43
Ashton_K(Possible linux for a Palm V)07:43
dxdthow the hell do I connect to a printer in Ubuntu?  it keeps throwing an authentication required error, but seriously, there isn't a password.  I just did this from a win machine.  ARg.07:43
dlainhartA network printer?07:43
Ashton_KHP printers generally work.07:43
dxdtyeah07:43
chimaerahow can i install intel 3945ABG wireless drivers? the instructions from intel seems impossible07:43
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midgetg0atthen you need to create a pass dxdt07:43
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h3xischimaera, theyre built in07:43
dlainhartndiswrapper's probably your best bet07:43
dlainhartI don't know wireless, I'm a dinosaur07:43
h3xisi have a 394507:44
avalonGood luck Ashton_K. I've been trying for six days to get Ubuntu to see the thing, much less accept it. Touchscreens plus Ubuntu equals no. I challenge someone to correct me there with an Aspen.07:44
Ashton_KI dunno dude, a LOT of wifi cards are supported on Ubuntu now.07:44
midgetg0ator just create a windows user w/ a password that you'll only use for your printer.07:44
chimaerah3xis: how do i enable my wireless if the drivers are built in? im on edgy07:44
midgetg0atmine still isnt :(07:44
dxdtyeah I thought they were built in too07:44
dlainhartI still use a CRT, my mouse has a ball, and my other computer runs DOS 6.2207:44
Ashton_KMost likely, I'll be using something besides Ubuntu.07:44
midgetg0atouch dlain :)07:44
chimaerah3xis: netwokring dun show my wireless07:44
Ashton_KUbuntu is too large for a palm Vx.07:44
Ashton_KIt'll be a custom kernel.07:44
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h3xischimaera, it's built in. i am sure of it. when i tested it out on my tpad it was there07:44
avalonHope your luck goes better than mine my friend.07:44
h3xisit should already be there07:44
Ashton_KFlashed to the ROM, and I'll have to write touchscreen support, and text recognition.07:44
chimaerah3xis: ok let me have a peek07:45
h3xischeck iwconfig07:45
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dlainhartAFAIK Linux's lacking in wireless drivers07:45
h3xisyes07:45
h3xisesp in the atheros dept07:45
dlainhartbecause the hardware's all proprietary and poorly-documented07:45
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Ashton_KUbuntu is the best at wireless drivers, so far.07:45
dlainhartndiswrapper is a nice workaround07:45
Ashton_KPatchy at best though.07:46
dlainhartNDIS is a standard interface for network drivers (it's quite old)07:46
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corinUbuntu is by far the best, but it's still not there all the way...it's the vendors, they don't want to write linux drivers for a windows-dominated market07:46
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Ashton_KAnd donating source code is not a possibility.07:46
Ashton_K:P07:46
corinhah, yeah07:46
Ashton_KThe only solution, we need to plant moles!07:46
spikebthere is one company that makes well supported cards though07:46
dlainhartndiswrapper is basically a way to use Windows drivers on Linux. There's lots of tutorials out there.07:46
buncould some one please tell me how to install new devices on ubuntu?07:46
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dxdtthe intel wireless drivers are there by default though.  Mine worked out of the box07:46
Ashton_Kchimaera, try lsmod | grep orinoco07:46
corinbun, what devices?07:46
dlainhartbun: install new devices? like what?07:47
Ashton_KOutput anything?07:47
avalonThat's why I'm going to find someone who knows what  they're doing an pay them to write me a driver. :)07:47
chimaeraiwconfig shows a wireless eth1.. does that mean its working?07:47
h3xisyes07:47
buna usb dongle07:47
dxdtchimaera, yes07:47
h3xisthat's it07:47
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Ashton_KConfigure it07:47
dlainhartbun: what does it do?07:47
dlainharttry discover07:47
chimaeralsmod | grep orinoco doesnt do anything07:47
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corindongle? like a flash drive, or something that enables software?07:47
dlainhartI think there's something called usbmgr that automatically handles insmodding new USB devices07:47
h3xischimaera, switch over to it in network-manager-gnome07:47
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dxdtchimaera, ignore the orinoco thing.  That's not for you.07:47
Ashton_Kiwconfig eth1 essid "id" enc "off or encryption key here, include s: if it's ASCII" channel "channel number" etc.07:47
bunone plugs into the computer running windows which connects directly to the internet, i have ubuntu on my laptop and want to share the internet connection between this and the laptop07:47
Ashton_KWell, it was for him, if it weren't for the fact that orinoco is working for him.07:48
Ashton_K:P07:48
corina wireless usb dongle?07:48
bunmhmm07:48
corinouch...who makes it?07:48
chimaeraok07:48
bunwhen i plug it in nothing happens07:48
Ashton_KWell, one is windows, and the other is Linux.07:48
Ashton_KThis might be interesting.07:48
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Jakkarucan someone give me a hand? trying to install ubuntu but cant get to the GUI. fails and says "no screens found" dpkg-reconfigure autodetects my hardware perfectly but nothing i try works. anyone got a suggestion?07:49
Ashton_KThat might require something Windows side also, maybe?07:49
Ashton_KNvidia card?07:49
Ashton_Kor ATI?07:49
avalonI swear.. why doesn't Ubuntu have a nice little window that tells you what's plugged into what, or at least what hardware it sees?07:49
corinjakkaru, maybe sync ranges in your X11 conf file are off?07:49
Jakkaruati card07:49
Ashton_KHerm.07:49
seanzeravalon: it's called lspci07:49
Ashton_KWhere's the x11 config file again?07:49
seanzeravalon: it's amazing07:49
cafuego_avalon: xterm -e lspci07:49
Jakkaruim pretty sure the sync is right07:49
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spikebit's in /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:49
Ashton_KAnd what driver will I need to tell him to put in there?07:49
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dxdtchimaera, do you have a normal internet connection with this machine by chance?  I would STRONGLY suggest installing the NetworkManager program that is different than the built in one but in my opinion works much better.  Gives you a little signal strangth icon in your tray, etc.  WIll auto reconnect. things like that07:50
spikebfglrx, but that's not installed out of the box.07:50
Ashton_KDo you have internet installed Jakkaru?07:50
Jakkaruyea07:50
seanzer...07:50
Ashton_KIs this box wired in? Or wireless?07:50
spikebJakkaru: so you're still in the trying to install stage?07:50
Ashton_KBecause you're doing this text only.07:50
Jakkaruwired07:50
Ashton_KNext time you boot, you're gonna have to use the -nox option.07:50
avalonIf that's what's all plugged into my system, it's missing USB touchscreen completely07:50
Jakkarunot even installing. cant even boot the live cd to the gui07:50
chimaeradxdt yea i have wire connection for that.. let me grab that thnx07:50
Ashton_KDid you try the "Safe graphics mode"?07:51
Jakkaruyup same problem07:51
spikebJakkaru: you should use the alternate cd, install with that, then install/setup the ATI drivers.07:51
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Ashton_KOr -nox07:51
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corini would try -nox and see what your xorg.conf file looks like07:51
Jakkaruwhere do i add the -nox?07:51
Ashton_KI dunno what kinda packages fglrx is in.07:51
Ashton_KBoot option at the beginning.07:52
Jakkaruok07:52
Ashton_KI believe he'd type Ubuntu -nox07:52
Ashton_KRight?07:52
Jakkaruill try it now07:52
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Ashton_KBeware, this is going to be text only.07:52
spikebJakkaru: i can give you a link to how to set up the ati drivers if you wish07:52
avalonHmm..... .07:52
Ashton_KYeah, you'll have to boot text only, install flgrx, add it to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, then type "startx"07:52
Ashton_KShould we just write the poor man a script?07:52
Jakkarulol07:52
seanzerwhy not use the generic vga drivers07:53
seanzerboot into x07:53
seanzerthen play with the conf07:53
spikebJakkaru: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI07:53
Ashton_Kvga didn't work.07:53
Ashton_Khe needs flgrx.07:53
fromvegaWhere are the squid logs located?07:53
midgetg0atnano isnt that scary....07:53
Jakkarucould this have anything to do with me using the DVI port?07:53
spikebJakkaru: theoretically, but i doubt it07:53
seanzerif generic video drivers didn't work, i highly doubt flgrx is going to work either07:53
avalonJust to confirm.. there's no touchscreen in here is there? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38476/07:53
seanzernano is hideous, use vim07:53
spikebseanzer: of course it will :P07:53
Ashton_Kflgrx is ATI specific, I believe.07:53
Ashton_KSo they tell me.07:53
seanzeryea, it is...07:54
Ashton_KNano is bad? Used vi lately?07:54
avalonvim is no fun. VI for the old scool :)07:54
Jakkarutouch screen? one mine? no07:54
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corinvim ftw07:54
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Ashton_KSomeone else had touch screen.07:54
seanzerbut any card should be able to work under generic drivers07:54
seanzerjust no dri07:54
midgetg0atheh, i think nano is fine...but then again, i dont spend hours in it.07:54
seanzeri know because i have a radeon sitting right here07:54
Ashton_KI do.07:54
seanzerand i can switch the driver out07:54
spikebseanzer: that's not true of many ati and nvidia cards though07:54
avalonNo no Jakkaru, I was just asking to see if someone else saw my touchscreen in the pasted text. I'm hoping I'm blind.07:54
Ashton_KHrm.07:54
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Ashton_KMaybe it's an issue with the monitor type.07:54
Ashton_KLCD or CRT?07:54
Jakkaruohy lol ok07:54
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dxdtyes it is made by ATI. And there are some things of hardware that will not work at all without ATI.  This is one of the reasons for the big debate about the inclusion of the proprietary ati and nvidia drivers in the next version  of ubuntu.  Including them would allow compatibility with those people who are stuck until they do get the fglrx, etc.  I'm not sure his card is one of those, but those problems do exist.07:55
JakkaruLCD widescreen07:55
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Jakkarujust got it.07:55
Ashton_KOh.07:55
Ashton_KWon't he have to change the xorg.conf file to reflect that?07:55
Jakkaruok im at the prompt07:55
seanzerwell, there are alawys the open source ati drivers07:55
seanzerthat blow chunks07:55
spikebheh07:55
Ashton_KWill the xorg.conf file need to be changed? He has a LCD.07:56
spikebthey're not so bad for the supported 3d cards, in my opinion. fglrx isn't exactly great.07:56
seanzerbut what do i know, i haven't seen his error message :(07:56
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corinany open source chow on proprietary drivers are bound to have lots of problems07:56
Ashton_KSend him through -nox.07:56
Ashton_KThen have him startx.07:56
Ashton_KAnd tells us what goes wrong.07:56
corintry running gdm instead of startx?07:56
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Jakkaruim looki at the log now07:56
avalonHmm.. no open source drivers for aspen.. good lord knows they need them .The ones they provided me to compile are so old they won't even work.07:57
Ashton_KWell, if it's having problems with the monitor, startx will tell us.07:57
linlinany free modernbill like applications07:57
linlin?07:57
Jakkarugdm didnt seem to do anything... didnt say it wasnt a comand. but didnt do anything.07:57
Ashton_KQuicken kinda stuff?07:57
chimaerai installed networkmanager and frontend from spm.. how do i run it?07:57
Ashton_KIt's not a command.07:57
ChevronXIs there a gameboy advanced emulator for Linux, if so how can I install it??07:57
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cgeIs there a way to kill a specific connection being routed through nat? Setting up iptables to DROP doesn't seem to work, since the connection is already established.07:57
spikebChevronX: yes. virtualboyadvance and its front-end vbaexpress07:57
JakkaruFatal IO error 10407:57
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avalonOMG my same error Jakkaru07:58
seanzeryou guys are making ripples go all over my screen07:58
Jakkaruheh07:58
ChevronXThanks07:58
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Jakkaruso we got the same problem avalon?07:58
chimaerai installed networkmanager and frontend from spm.. how do i run it?07:58
seanzercge: you can use netstat to find the program and kill it07:58
spikebChevronX: both are in the repositories, in universe i believe. :)07:58
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cgeseanzer: thanks07:58
seanzercge: or restart the network interface07:58
dxdtchimaera, I would go to System >> Preferences >> Sessions  then go to the startup program command and add nm-applet --sm-disable07:58
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Crescendo_sox: Can't open output file '/dev/dsp': Device or resource busy - How can I make it so anything can access sound, no matter what?07:58
ChevronXOh ok07:58
pegshey all, while on the topic of ati and console login.. i have a problem after some recent updates.. i can no longer use the console to start x... i have to use the gui login...07:58
h3xischimaera, install network-manager-gnome, too. then run nm-a (i think) to run it07:58
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chimaeraok07:59
punay@hix07:59
dxdtchimaera, then logout and log back on and it should autostart and07:59
seanzerpegs: does this bother you?07:59
avalonWell one problem of mine Jakkaru, one of hundreds all relating to touchscreens07:59
ChevronXYes, it was VisualBoyAdvance07:59
Pie-rategnome-screensaver runs at a really high gamma setting, and after it exits gamma is really high, how can i fix this?07:59
ChevronXThanks07:59
spikebChevronX: make sure you install the vbaexpress front-end, too.07:59
dxdtchimaera, if it doesn't work, we may need to change one more thing that I used to change but I don't think is necessary anymore.  We'll find out.07:59
spikebChevronX: you';re welcome.07:59
punay(seanzer): a07:59
chimaeraok let me relogin07:59
Jakkarulol well atleast im not alone in this07:59
ChevronXYes, the front end was for  Visual Boy Advance07:59
cbrunois goobuntu ever going to be a reality07:59
seanzerpunay: go away windows user07:59
spikebcbruno: what is goobuntu? :P08:00
spikebChevronX: cool.08:00
punay(seanzer): please08:00
cbrunogoogle + ubuntu08:00
spikeboh08:00
pegswell, i guess it isnt a problem as such.. it was working, and now it doesnt08:00
spikebwho knows08:00
cgeseanzer: The interface has a peculiar bug where the interface dies until reboot if I restart it. Or at least it had that - I haven't brought the network down or rebooted since installing Edgy a few weeks ago. Besides, my users wouldn't like that.08:00
cbrunochallenge M$08:00
cgeseanzer: But netstat will work08:00
corincbruno, i doubt it08:00
avalonDitto cbruno08:00
seanzercge: did you try restarting the interface through the init scripts?08:00
ChevronXIts working08:00
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corindidn't shuttleworth say there was no goobuntu that was public (outside of the lair of google?)08:00
spikebChevronX: have fun!08:01
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cbrunogoogle has the clout to put it out there, the can get peripherial manufacturers on board08:01
Ashton_KGoogle is going to release a Linux distro?08:01
chimaerawow the networkmanasger works nicely.. thnx!@08:01
Ashton_KOr is workign on one?08:01
dxdtno08:01
corinAshton, no08:01
cbrunoyeah not yet08:01
Ashton_KDamn.08:01
seanzeri wouldn't use google's distro08:01
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h3xisgooglix08:01
Jakkaruill go find my sync rates see if that helps08:01
Ashton_KWell, I'm not sure if it'd be a good thing or not.08:01
cbrunoim wondering if it will ever be put out there08:01
spikebme either seanzer. i already have a distro08:01
corini wouldn't either...i like my privacy08:01
dxdtno, they have one internally and they have stated that they have no intention of releasing it08:01
seanzerthink, every piece of your computer would be on everyone elses so it'd be easier to search08:01
Ashton_KIt'd sure take away a lot of the "special" and "elite" feeling, you know?08:01
spikebcorin: me too somewhat.08:01
avalonAnyone in here ever written a driver?08:01
cgeseanzer: It was an eight year old or so Debian installation that was only rebooted about once every six months, and was a mess. So I don't think it has the problem any more now that Edgy is installed.08:01
seanzeravalon: i've made a bong08:02
spikebseanzer: yes, but have you made a bong out of a driver?08:02
avalonDid it connect up a touchscreen seanzer? :p08:02
Ashton_KNot quite as complex, but okay?08:02
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Ashton_KYes, it did.08:02
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Ashton_KIt didn't taste so great, but damn that screen worked well.... I think.08:02
corinavalon: you can find tutorials for all kinds of drivers on teh pipes08:02
avalonBecause shy of making my own driver, i don't think this touchscreen is EVER going to work.08:02
Ashton_KStart coding?08:02
Ashton_KDepends how badly you want a touch screen.08:03
seanzeravalon, spikeb: it was amazing, it allowed me to smoke open source weed08:03
cgeseanzer: Err, wait - netstat won't work. The connection I need to kill is a masqueraded connection.08:03
avalonBad enough to sell my soul to satan Ashton_K08:03
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seanzercge: well, you can use route to null the connection08:03
Ashton_KThat'd be the cue to start coding.08:03
Ashton_Klol08:03
Ashton_KOh man, only a math geek would enjoy that.08:03
spikebseanzer: sweet08:03
cbrunowhy does everyone who uses my ubuntu machines think they are on a MAC???08:03
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Ashton_KBecause everyone else, is a retard.08:04
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spikebcbruno: because the UI doesn't suck.08:04
seanzerOMG OSX IS LINUX.... not08:04
pegslol08:04
seanzerwhat happens when  you press f908:04
Ashton_KUnix based, isn't it?08:04
seanzerdoes it do what osx does?08:04
pegsi get that same comment from people alot too08:04
seanzerbsd based08:04
h3xisAshton_K, bsd - darwin08:04
corinOS X is UNIX though...close enough :)08:04
cgecbruno: Because it isn't Windows, so it must be a computer made by that little company named after a fruit. There isn't anything else, is there? :)08:04
cbrunoOS X is cool08:04
seanzeros x is proprietery08:04
cbrunojust not open like ubuntu08:04
seanzeras bad as sco08:04
Ashton_KSo, distantly related to Linux, but not direct sister OS's08:04
seanzerand almost as bad as windows08:04
avalonWe need the hardware recogntion from OSX08:04
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Ashton_KWindows.08:04
Ashton_KIt's the only thing that works ATM.08:05
spikebmy sister runs ubuntu on her mac heh08:05
seanzerwindows doesn't work for me08:05
Ashton_KI can't be assholed into carrying this case downstairs to get it to work.08:05
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seanzerat all08:05
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seanzervista complains about activation08:05
seanzerso does xp08:05
seanzerand then it stops working after 2 weeks08:05
BrendanMNow that Macs are x86 they're just pretty-looking PCs08:05
Ashton_KI'd rather build my own comp, tbh.08:05
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spikebBrendanM: that's all they ever were.08:05
seanzeryou can build a mac08:05
Ashton_KWell, that means they'll take Linux quieter.08:05
seanzerjust get a job at apple08:05
cbrunomac suck not because of OSX but because their hardware is overpriced08:05
corinBrendanM, you're right, but the OS still whips the snot out of Windows08:05
avalonVista and XP= You pay microsoft to infect your system and don't even get porn to show for it ;)08:05
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Ashton_KSeanzer, short of that...08:05
Ashton_K:P08:06
seanzerwell, vista is nice08:06
seanzerit's fast08:06
seanzerer08:06
Ashton_KI'm only 17, any job I got a computer company, would involve sweeping the floors.08:06
BrendanMVista is pretty looking08:06
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seanzerfaster08:06
BrendanMwe have the enterprise version at  my university08:06
Ashton_KFaster than....?08:06
cgeAshton_K: There are several significant developers who are younger than you.08:06
Ashton_KXP?08:06
BrendanMso I was playing around with it08:06
Ashton_KTrue, but I don't know C yet.08:06
avalonNot necessarily Ash, I worked 4 years at a tech dept as a technician when I turned 1408:06
max_is Cairo-Dock Gnome only? or can you use it on KDE?08:06
seanzerAshton_K: when i was 14 i got my job at the university coding simulations for the theoretical physicists08:06
corinAshton, better start learning08:06
pegsi find that e17 on ubuntu dapper is more stable and functional than vista08:06
Ashton_KI'm working my way in, as best as I can.08:07
cbrunoyou can get a quad-core PC for under 1500--the macpro is over 200008:07
dxdtyeah I worked as an IS manager for like 50+ win machines and a few servers(backup server, etc) at that age too08:07
Ashton_KStarting at a linux business.08:07
Ashton_K:P08:07
seanzercbruno: where do you see this 'quad-core' PC08:07
seanzercbruno: don't let intel fool you08:07
Ashton_KIt's two dual cores.08:07
cbrunoxeon08:07
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cgeAshton_K: C isn't that hard. I learnt it when I was around 10. Try Haskell instead, that should be more of a challenge.08:07
Jakkarudamn cant find the rates... where my damn manual08:07
corincbruno, i personally feel like a lot of that money is OS X you are paying for...it makes it so much closer to being worth it :)08:07
Ashton_KWell, I'm learning it soon.08:07
seanzerit's not really a quad core cpu08:08
avalonI love C... I've gotta take COBOL at college though.. boy.. that's REALLY useful.08:08
seanzerit's like.. 2.75 cpus08:08
h3xisavalon, it's more useful than fortran.08:08
Ashton_KCompletely Obsolete Business Oriented Language?08:08
corinCOBOL? what's that? :)08:08
Ashton_KSee above.08:08
cbrunoyeah its 2 dual cores...i guess that is not technically a quad core since they all share cache08:08
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Ashton_KI could heat my coffee on that.08:08
Ashton_KBoil it, even.08:08
avalonDid you know that when they dug up King Tut, they found Pic x(4) value "death" on his tomb?08:09
seanzeridk, cobol might be better than RESOLVE/c++08:09
cgeavalon: I have heard that learning COBOL well guarantees that one will always be able to find a well paid job.08:09
seanzerthat i had to learn08:09
corini still like working on true quad core machines...we have a quad core opteron running red hat at my job08:09
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Ashton_KNah.08:09
cbrunostill a macbook pro with a 2.0 ghz intel core duo is 2000 while a PC you can find um under 100008:09
seanzeryea, scientists like to use cobol08:09
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cgeseanzer: No we don't!08:09
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seanzerok i was wrong08:09
avalonI hope so cge, everytime I've mentioned it to  a business, they mentioned that their grandpa knew it?08:09
Ashton_Kcge, that was true when all the old COBOL servers needed to be upgraded for the y2k scare.08:09
seanzerscientists HERE like to use cobol08:09
Ashton_KAfter that... pfft.08:09
seanzerfor some reason08:09
seanzerand i said no.08:09
Ashton_KThey're scientists.08:09
fromvegaHello... I'm the administrator but I can't access the directory /var/log/squid. What do I need to be able do access it?08:10
Ashton_KIt's their job to know science, most are lost with computers.08:10
corinthey need to upgrade to python or something08:10
cbrunoruby08:10
Ashton_KRoot?08:10
cgeseanzer: We had a professor at UCSD who required that his entire group infrastructure be run on vaxen.08:10
Ashton_Ksu - root08:10
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seanzerfromvega: it's probably locked by access08:10
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corinfromvega, what does it tell you?08:10
Ashton_Kenter password, acces it.08:10
seanzercge: ew08:10
Rookie_think this is way OT ....08:10
cgeseanzer: And this continues to this day, as well.08:10
Ashton_KVaxen?08:10
Ashton_KSounds evil.08:10
fromvegacorin: permission denied08:10
cbrunoanyone log into this irc room from some os beside ubuntu?08:10
seanzersounds like..08:10
h3xiscbruno, debian?08:11
Ashton_KVader, tbh.08:11
cbrunotoo close08:11
avalonoohhh.. lemme shutup before i get coralled into ubuntu ot :)08:11
corincbruno: i'm on OS X right now08:11
h3xisseanzer runs gentoo08:11
fromvegado you know where the squid logs are? I suppose they are in this folder08:11
Ashton_KWhat was that language, old, that allowed true multi-processing?08:11
cbrunook08:11
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cbrunofedora core sucks!08:11
Ashton_KGentoo!08:11
Ashton_KHere's to doing things the hard way, in the name of learning!08:11
elkbuntuplease either quit the distro war or take it to #ubuntu-offtopic08:11
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seanzerAshton_K: idk, but C's mpi libs are pretty 'true' multi-processing..08:11
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Ashton_KIt was an old one, CIA made I believe.08:12
seanzergood one h3xis08:12
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emunthis talk makes me feel like going into programming, wow anyway this newbie needs somehelp, I have the tar.bz files for mythtv seating on my desktop now how do I install it please step by step method will be appreciated thanks08:12
Ashton_KNamed after the "first programmer"08:12
seanzeryou got everyone all anxious08:12
fromvegaseanzer: but why is it locked? can I unlock it?08:12
Ashton_Ktar -xjf filename08:12
h3xis:/08:12
corinemun: there are mythtv threads on ubuntuforums.org that are step by step08:12
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Shdw|Laptophi08:12
Ashton_KOr Knoppmyth might be a good choice.08:12
Jaka|found a big bag of manuals an junk got exited thought it was my monitor manual. just my wii manual and safety instructions08:12
seanzeravalon: ubuntu can work with touchscreens why08:12
cgeemun, Ashton_K: tar -xf filename works now as well, at least in Ubuntu.08:13
seanzerfromvega: can you copy the file?08:13
BrendanMfromvega, you should try using "sudo su" to become root to access it08:13
agibby5anyone have an idea here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32010208:13
mikedotyHey, you know how the D-pad on a gamepad only has a range of [-1, 1]  on each axis?  Can I use the ubuntu Joystick Calibration utility to redefine the value of each axis to, say, [-16, 16] ?08:13
cbrunoanyone every do any lego mindstorms programming off ubuntu08:13
mikedotyI've been looking at it for a while, but I haven't found a way to do this yet08:13
Ashton_KI have no idea what the xjvf or whatever letters do, I just use the ones people tell me to use.08:13
Ashton_K:P08:13
cgeBrendanM, fromvega: sudo -s or sudo -i is better than sudo su.08:13
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fromvegaBrendanM: sudo su workdes08:13
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fromvegaBrendanM: sudo su worked :P08:13
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calvarezhello, anybody uses mod_python?08:14
cgeAshton_K: x extracts, f specifies a filename, and j and z refer to bz2 and gz compression. But the compression is now autodetected, apparently.08:14
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seanzerAshton_K: x=extract, j=bzip2 archive, v=verbose, f= file08:14
corincalvarez, i've played with it a little?08:14
Ashton_KSweet.08:14
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Ashton_KCools.08:14
Ashton_KSo only xf is needed?08:14
seanzercge:  it is?!08:14
Ashton_KHandy.08:14
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calvarezcorin, how well does it work in ubuntu?08:15
cgeseanzer: Try tar xf something.tar.{bz2,gz}.08:15
GirlRiverDoes anyone know if edgy  supports connecting to bluetooth phone using a bluetooth dongle ?08:15
cgeseanzer: It works for me in feisty, at least, and I believe it works in edgy as well.08:15
Ashton_Kfeisty?08:15
Ashton_KExperimental build?08:15
corincalvarez: i had it running in an old fedora core install for a while then migrated it to ubuntu, and it was considerably faster (on the same hardware) and was almost completely stable from what i could see08:15
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cbrunoanyone ever heard of autoit on windows?08:15
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cbrunoanything like that for GNOME?08:16
neurotechIs there a Global Hotkey plugin for XMMS?08:16
Ashton_KNo idea what that is.08:16
cgeAshton_K: Yes, I had resolved to not run the devel version this time around, but it is too hard to write patches when not running the latest version.08:16
cbrunobasically a gui scripting language08:16
midgetg0atautomatix2?08:16
midgetg0ater, nm :)08:16
seanzerxmms?08:16
cgeGirlRiver: somewhat. The Wiki has a guide to it.08:16
seanzerpeople are still using th at?08:16
seanzeri thuoght development stopped on it08:17
Madpilotcbruno, there's zen, which uses the gtk toolkit for easy simple gui development08:17
neurotechIt's awesome, just like Winamp08:17
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cbrunothanks08:17
seanzerneurotech: try audacious08:17
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neurotechwhy?08:17
seanzerneurotech: it's "like winamp" but is the successor to xmms08:17
AWOSDevIs there a program for Ubuntu like Motherboard Monitor?  where it shows the Fan RPM, processor voltage, current speed, etc...?08:17
cgecbruno: Many scripting languages have support for gnome. Ruby is my favourite.08:17
seanzerAWOSDev: depends on your chipset08:17
h3xisgkrellm?08:17
neurotechpl08:17
neurotechok08:17
Madpilotubotu, sensors | AWOSDev08:17
ubotuAWOSDev: You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto08:17
Ashton_KDunno. Although I was happy to find out that Gentoo supports uGuru.08:17
Ashton_KWonder if I can get that for Ubuntu?08:18
cgeAWOSDev: There are a vast number of those types of programs.08:18
Ashton_K(If this board has uGuru, dunno if it does)08:18
seanzerneurotech: if you just take a look at audacious, you'll see how outdated xmms is08:18
emunashton-k, will the file name be like mythtv-0.20.tar.bz208:18
neurotechyeah wow, this is awesome08:18
GirlRivercge, I used the following guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup but when I do 'sudo hidd --search' it just returns and does not show any device ids at all08:18
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avalonseanzer: sorry to be responding so late, just got back. Ubuntu doesn't seem to like my simple USB touchscreen. Do you know how to make them work?08:18
AWOSDevMadpilot thanks08:18
dxdtAWOSDev, umm kinda, yeah, I have one on my taskbar, I just hit add to panel and then clicked cpu monitor or something.  Also, there are ones that do fans and things you can install.  Gkrellm I use, but that's a freefloating program you might not want08:18
Ashton_KSure.08:18
Ashton_KI've never used MythTV.08:18
Ashton_KSearch the forums, there should be a walkthrough.08:18
corinneurotech: i run GNOME but have Amarok installed...it's very awesome compared to xmms and teh evil rythymbox08:18
AWOSDevseazner, VIA K8M800 north, VT8237 south08:18
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seanzeravalon: what kind of monitor do you have08:18
AWOSDevdxdt, cool, but I use KDE08:19
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AWOSDevcge, I didn't seem them in repo08:19
Ashton_KMight be universe.08:19
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emungreat I will try it and see08:19
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Ashton_KCheck the forums man.08:19
Ashton_KThere are plenty of walkthroughs.08:19
avalonseanzer: Aspen Touchscreen 15 inches08:19
mikedotyAny ideas on my d-pad conundrum?08:19
Ashton_KI believe one is a sticky in the howto section, or whatever.08:19
surface_well i have no problem with gkrellm, its a bar, with nice theme, it looks stylish08:19
Ashton_KExtended keymaps?08:20
cbrunodo programs compiled for the .NET runtime run on the mono runtime?08:20
surface_for me icons is more irritating08:20
dxdtwhen you are connected to a printer, and the printer is all good and working, is there a single file somewhere that describes the printer?  A file such that I can do echo "asdfasdf" | /whatever/printerhere and make it print that?08:20
avalonseanzer: Aspen touchscreen 15 inch. Nothing fancy, just USB plugup and VGA connection.08:20
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cgeGirlRiver: Yes, thus my use of 'somewhat'. It has a tendency to not work very well, and is rather tricky to set up. I was partially successful with a Samsung X820, but not with a RAZR. You might check to see if the phone has bluetooth visibility turned on, but besides that, I'm not sure what the problem is. The RAZR had visibility on and didn't show up, in a similar manner to what you describe.08:20
seanzerAWOSDev: i'm not sure of any gui apps, but you can look through for various hw monitors that your kernel supports in /proc/08:20
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calvarezcbruno, yes, as long as the libraries are08:20
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calvarezcbruno, what are you looking for?08:20
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Ashton_Kdxdt, I think printers take more complex info than that.08:20
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seanzeravalon: have you tried their drivers?08:21
AWOSDevseazner, yeah I'm building a new computer and was wondering, I don't have the PSU yet so I was just getting ready :P08:21
neurotechseanzer: I downloaded the tgz. How do I install it in Ubuntu?08:21
Ashton_KBut it probably is a file somewhere, probably in /dev if it's actually plugged into your comp.08:21
cgeAWOSDev: /proc and /sys will tell you just about anything you ever wanted to know.08:21
calvarezcbruno, are you looking for a GUI toolkit?08:21
gr0k3mi am trying to install trac but apt-get is telling me python-clearsilver (>= 0.9.3) is not installable...08:21
J-_how do I removethat I've compiled?08:21
J-_err08:21
DeagsDoesLinuxok i have a bunch of games made specifically for linux that i would like to get installed but im a newb and i cant figure out how to install them and i do not want to do it the incorrect way and mess anything up08:21
J-_software08:21
cgegr0k3m: Are you running Feisty or using third part repositories?08:21
dxdtAshton_K, that wasn't really a no... I feel like there is one...08:21
avalonseanzer: I've got them downloaded, but they're not made for ubuntu period, and I've never been able to get them to compile.08:21
calvarezDeagsDoesLinux, which games, specifically?08:21
DeagsDoesLinuxo god there is 37 of them08:21
calvarezack08:21
cgeJ-_: with great difficulty if sudo make uninstall doesn't work.08:22
DeagsDoesLinuxhehe08:22
seanzeravalon: are you experienced with compiling?08:22
calvarezwhere did you get them from?08:22
Ashton_KWhat file extensions are on them?08:22
Madpilotanyone know if Sid Meier's Pirates runs in Wine? apparently a relative is giving it to me for Xmas08:22
seanzerneurotech: there's documentation included08:22
DeagsDoesLinuxmy friend sent them to me08:22
Ashton_KHopefully they're in .debs08:22
cbrunoim looking for something either cross platform (no java) or some easy to learn language for making GNOME guis08:22
gr0k3mcge: nope just universe & multiverse08:22
Ashton_KIf they're in .rpm's, this might be painful.08:22
seanzerneurotech: but i believe it's in ubuntu's repo?08:22
calvarezDeagsDoesLinux, but are the .deb files? .tgz files?08:22
avalonseanzer: I know how to do it, but it spits out some weird errors. I'm no pro at it though.08:22
cgecbruno: ruby08:22
AWOSDevMadpilot, aw that's no fun, knowing your presents :P08:22
neurotechdid a search, no luck08:22
levanderSomebody in here showed me a really good link on how to install hardware acceleration for nvidia cards.  Nobody knows what it was do they?  Or, know a commonly used good one?08:22
seanzeravalon: where does it die at08:22
DeagsDoesLinuxwell let me see08:22
coringr0k3m: you might have to find a repository with that package in it08:22
Ashton_KLevander, it's on the ubuntu wiki.08:23
calvarezcbruno, I have been doing the same research you;re doing right now08:23
DeagsDoesLinuxtheres alot of .gz's08:23
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cgecbruno: or python, or javascript (yes, javascript), or gambas, or ...08:23
Ashton_KThey're included in the linux-restricted-modules.08:23
AWOSDevwell thanks guys08:23
calvarezfor the last few weeks08:23
AWOSDevbye!08:23
avalonLemme compile it and give you the exact error. One sec08:23
cbrunodoes ruby require a large runtime for a user to download in windows08:23
Ashton_K.gz's, semi painful.08:23
midgetg0athttp://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Edgy08:23
seanzerneurotech: http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/sound/audacious08:23
Ashton_KHope the makefile's aren't broken.08:23
cgecbruno: It requires a runtime, but isn't that large.08:23
DeagsDoesLinuxive never installed anything08:23
calvarezcbruno, if you want a toolkit that is crossplatform, use wxWindows08:23
cbrunojava sucks because the JVM is like 15 MB08:23
GirlRivercge, I just tried 'hcitool scan' and this showed my devices, although still having trouble connecting, but the phone showed an attempt08:23
Jakkaruok its not a sync rate issue08:23
seanzerneurotech: if you know how to add feisty to your repo08:23
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DeagsDoesLinuxso whoever helps me may have to go pretty slow08:23
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calvarezcbruno, it is more portable than GTK08:23
seanzercbruno: what about oo?08:23
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cbrunodoes wxwindows work right out of the box? or is there the possiblity of DLL hell?08:24
seanzercbruno: that's like 2000 GB08:24
J-_cge: make: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'.  Stop.08:24
calvarezcbruno, right out of the box08:24
neurotechseanzer: I'm using Dapper 6.06 amd6408:24
cgeJ-_: You are doomed.08:24
J-_yay08:24
J-_=\08:24
calvarezcbruno, what languages do you know?08:24
Ashton_KCommon feeling.08:24
Ashton_K2:30, time to sleep.08:24
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cgeJ-_: Why do you want to remove it?08:24
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calvarezcbruno, btw, wxWidgets is the name08:25
cbrunoC/C++, java, I know Qt and swing08:25
calvarezmy mistake08:25
seanzerneurotech: well, then i guess you'll have to build from source08:25
J-_because the software seems corrupt (not working)08:25
seanzer.. wh ich is why i use gentoo ;)08:25
Ashton_KWhat's more priceless than a beer mug with "#include <beer.h>" on it?08:25
cbrunopython08:25
levanderAshton_K: I see BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia - but I don't think that's it.  The guide I'm talking about had me use "glxinfo | grep direct" or something like that to see if I had hardware acceleration already installed.  Is that the page you were talking about?  The BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?08:25
avalonseanzer: , that's a problem I had, I get into the 2.6 kernel dir, and I see COMPILE, makefile, and touch.c and I cant use a ./configure08:25
surface_J-_, check the Makefile, search for install:08:25
J-_k08:25
calvarezcbruno, you can do the development in C/C++ if you wish, but in python it would be even faster and less of a hassle08:25
evil_What is better, Rythmbox or Amarok?08:25
surface_J-_, if no uninstall, u have to rm manually08:25
cbrunoQt sucks because of Troll Techs licensing for commerical software08:26
Ashton_Klsmod | grep nvidia_glx08:26
calvarezcbruno, check out wxPython08:26
midgetg0atevil_: try having an opinion ;)08:26
cbrunoi want to sell the app I have in mind for windows users08:26
cgeJ-_: Actually, you could install checkinstall, then run checkinstall make install to install the program with checkinstall, and then remove the package that it creates and installs!08:26
seanzeravalon: i gues si'll take a look at what their 'drivers' are08:26
Ashton_KThat'll list it if you have it installed.08:26
surface_its good to include uninstall: as ppl may want to uninstall08:26
corinevil_: amarok imo. it's a bit slower, but it's a worthy tradeoff08:26
calvarezcbruno, Qt4 allows you to use Qt in Windows for free if you're making Open Source software08:26
GirlRivercge, I'm now getting a request from the computer and the phone asking for permission and a pass key,  then the connection gets refused08:26
ScottKcbruno: I thought QT was GPL now?08:26
cbrunono I want to sell my app for windows08:26
calvarezcbruno, but if you prefer to use something not as restrictive as the GPL, then wxWidgets is a good option08:26
Ashton_KThe latest nvidia drivers are in the linux-restricted-modules repository, there should be a guide on the Ubuntu wiki.08:26
cgeGirlRiver: You typed the same numbers into both?08:26
levanderAshton_K: No, I don't have it installed.08:26
avalonI'd appreciate it seanzer, I'm up on a wall.I'll get you the link to it08:26
cbrunokeep it free for linux08:26
Ashton_KLemme find the wiki I used.08:27
midgetg0ati just posted a link for nvidia driver howto08:27
calvarezcbruno, then you should use either wxWidgets or GTK+08:27
cbrunois wxwidgets LGPL?08:27
calvarezyes08:27
cgeGirlRiver: You generally only have 30 seconds to do so.08:27
Ashton_KMidget, did it use the restricted-modules?08:27
calvarezLGPL08:27
surface_Open QT is under bsd license, if my memory serve me right08:27
midgetg0athttp://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Edgy08:27
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avalonseanzer: http://www.aspentouchsupport.com/download/index.htm under Linux.08:27
calvarezactually, it's LGPL with even less restrictions08:27
DeagsDoesLinuxwas someoeng onan help me install those games or what lol everyone just kinda changed subject :P08:27
midgetg0atoh i dont recall, all i know is it worked for me so i bookmarked it.08:27
corinsee ya everyone08:27
cgecbruno: wxwidgets isn't bad, that is true. And it has wide support in scripting languages as well, if I recall.08:27
GirlRivercge, I can't see where to type the passkey on ubuntu ..using 'sudo hidd --connect 00:16:B8:BE:92:C6'08:28
seanzeravalon: http://www.aspentouchsupport.com/download/AspenLinuxDriverDisk2.4.3.tar.gz08:28
calvarezlots of ports, yea08:28
cbrunohas anyone ever used latex under mac OS X?08:28
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seanzeravalon: doesn't look like you have to build anything08:28
surface_qpl : http://www.trolltech.com/products/qt/licenses/licensing/qpl08:28
calvarezcbruno, also there are RAD tools for wxWidgets with code generation in several languages as well08:28
cgeGirlRiver: Yes, you need to run something, but I don't remember what it is.08:28
Ashton_KLevander: The one that Midget posted should work.08:28
seanzeravalon: extract it all, and go into Touchscreen/Debian_Sarge_3.1r2_32bit/usb/08:28
Ashton_KThe nVidia drivers are available through apt-get, that guide will walk you through it.08:28
seanzeravalon: assuming you don't have an amd64..08:28
cgeGirlRiver: Maybe bluez-pin?08:29
avalonI don't. Lemme get you the error I get.08:29
GirlRiverwill try08:29
cbrunohere is my app idea: a collection of algorithms that generate math worksheets for teachers08:29
Ashton_KSeanzer, I'd say "Assuming you aren't using X86_64 libraries" is a better way to put it.08:29
levanderI'm looking at the Wiki, I hate how the document everything button by button.  I don't even use synaptic, so I have to reverse engine what those buttons do.08:29
cbrunofrom basic math to calculus08:29
levanderthanks midget08:29
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cbrunomy app will spit out a .tex file08:29
Ashton_KI have a 64, but I installed x86, hated compatability issues with 64 bit libraries08:29
DeagsDoesLinuxmadpilot , wanna be my savior again and help me install these things or u busy?08:29
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midgetg0atsame ashton08:29
cbrunoand then use a latex compiler to generate a pdf file with the worksheet08:29
calvarez.tex file? Why not .pdf?08:30
jakkaruhow do i save the file when usuing VI?08:30
MadpilotDeagsDoesLinux, sorry, haven't been following - installing what things?08:30
cbrunotex is the intermeidate08:30
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seanzerAshton_K: but my way was a lot shorter08:30
Ashton_K:wq?08:30
Ashton_KWhat way?08:30
cgecbruno: I think you just need to install XeTeX. But I've never used it.08:30
Ashton_KI'm confused.08:30
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surface_tex files need to compile with latex08:30
seanzerAshton_K: lol, nevermind08:30
calvarezcbruno, there is an Open Source library called Report.Net for Python that makes .pdf files08:30
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surface_:x08:30
avalonSorry seanzer, comp froze. Lemme extract it08:30
cgecalvarez: But it can't do math typesetting.08:30
seanzeravalon: k08:30
calvarezcbruno, any specific reason to spit out a .tex instead of generating a .pdf instead>08:30
calvarezoh08:31
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cbrunoyeah but =--right cge08:31
calvarezI see08:31
seanzerdoes anyone know if a beer bong has any advantages over water? xP08:31
avalonSuccessfully extracted08:31
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DeagsDoesLinux:D well first off hi again u helped me get ubuntu installed otherday my cd was messed up had to burn at a 4x i guess i dont really understand how to install anything at all but i have some games with .gx extention id like to try installing08:31
surface_.tex is editable, pdf can't08:31
cgeDeagsDoesLinux: .gz?08:31
Ashton_KYeah, typo.08:31
DeagsDoesLinuxya08:31
Ashton_KThey're tarballs.08:31
Ashton_KI don't know enough to walk him through a makefile08:31
avalonSwapping to USB dir now and attempting to follow readme commands08:31
cbrunobasically if a teacher needed to make a worksheet for solving a system of equations--they would set their options, click a button and bam its there08:31
cgesurface_: PDF is editable in a text editor :)08:31
alsHi, i recently tried following an ati tutorial on getting the drivers to work properly. But when i rebooted, i got the error "out of scan range"08:32
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surface_cge, oh really?08:32
surface_cge, any text editor?08:32
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calvarezcbruno, sounds like a cool idea08:32
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cgesurface_: A text editor that can handle binary well, yes. But it isn't a realistic solution.08:32
seanzerals: when did you get the error08:32
Ashton_KIt is FAR too early for this, sleep time.08:32
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cbrunomy hope is to get it into edubuntu08:33
calvarezcbruno, I would use python for that app. Then it is really cross-platform08:33
alsa few seconds ago, right after i did the ati driver tutorial08:33
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seanzerAshton_K: smoke some pot, it'll be ok08:33
RancidLMhey all is smp kernel suported with ubuntu.. i notice i have it in synaptic but im not sure if its a from a 3rd party repository?08:33
cbrunoim leaning that way cal08:33
seanzerals: no i mean, how far along the boot process08:33
Ashton_KI don't smoke.08:33
calvarezand it is easy and fast to develop for08:33
surface_cge, not for the content08:33
cbrunoespcially after here08:33
Ashton_KI took a solid knock to the head today, ow.08:33
Ashton_KProbably should sleep it off.08:33
daggerx<<<seen windows vista....took xp off computer08:33
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seanzerAshton_K: :(08:33
calvarezcbruno, and for the GUI would could use wxPython or PyGTK08:33
alsi mean my glxgears was working so i know 3d accerlation was working, but when i installed beryl, i got and error08:33
cgesurface_: I take that back. PS is editable. PDF is only editable in special cases.08:33
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calvarezyou could*08:33
Ashton_KCould.08:33
Ashton_KPrefer not to.08:33
alsso i tried to re-install the ati drivers and that's when i got the error :(08:34
seanzerals: did you install beryl on top of xgl?08:34
DeagsDoesLinuxnoone is up to helping me make these things i have a few.bz2's as well are those any easier?08:34
diskus!nvidia08:34
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:34
elysium444were can i find w32codecs, ubuntu 6.10 amd64, I have installed the other codecs but can't find this one.08:34
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cgeDeagsDoesLinux: They are both the same, essentially.08:34
surface_cge, ps i am not sure, as i know pdf can't the content is not editable in text format08:34
DeagsDoesLinuxahh crap08:34
DeagsDoesLinuxlol08:34
elysium444!w32codecs08:34
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:34
daggerxanyone figure out how to get the screensavers to work right after updating ati drivers?08:34
alsyes08:34
cgeDeagsDoesLinux: What games are they, specifically.08:34
cge?08:34
cbrunowho approves whether or not an app gets included in edubuntu repositories08:34
Ashton_Kcge, lots of them.08:34
cbrunolike the ubuntu -safe ones08:34
h3xisdaggerx, what do you mean "work right"?08:34
Ashton_KThey're probably gonna come with makefiles08:34
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seanzernothing in ubuntu works right to my standards :(08:34
DeagsDoesLinuxdo i have to list everyone of them cause there r 37 of them08:34
avalonHere you go seanzer08:34
alsit was called fgrxgl is what i think the item was called. Sorry if i spelled it incorrectly08:35
daggerxif i run newest drivers, the screen savers run bad08:35
avalonFirst errror.08:35
daggerxslow08:35
Ashton_KI really don't want to walk him through it, I barely get it to work for myself, let alone someone over IRC.08:35
avalonModprobe touch. FATAL: Module touch not found.08:35
daggerxbut i have 3d acceleration08:35
h3xisdaggerx, youre not using the ati opengl driver08:35
cgeDeagsDoesLinux: The first thing you should do is search for their names in synaptic. If they are there, install them that way instead.08:35
h3xischeck your ati control08:35
DeagsDoesLinuxwhats that08:35
h3xisyoure more than likely using mesa08:35
HilobUmm, can anyone tell me why I can only use my network card with memory remap disabled in Ubuntu 64bit?08:35
calvarezDeagsDoesLinux, the thing is this: usually, you should strongly prefer to get all your software as .deb files08:35
Ashton_KOh my.08:35
cgeDeagsDoesLinux: Otherwise, the sources that you have are not easy to install.08:35
Ashton_KIt's in your start menu.08:35
HilobWhich means i can only use 2.8/4GB of memory08:35
calvarezand, further, you want to download them using apt-get08:35
DeagsDoesLinuxno offence cge or anything but i have no idea what im doing period08:35
DeagsDoesLinuxlol08:35
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alsseanzer, is there anything i can do. i wish i would've bought a nvida card :((08:36
seanzeravalon: well, are you sure you copied touch.o to the right place?08:36
dxdtDeagsDoesLinux,  System >> Administration >> Synaptic  a gui program that hunts for easy to install premade programs.  They install with like two clicks08:36
daggerxi reverted back, but ill update again and come back08:36
alsnvidia*08:36
GirlRivercge, ok setup in and out passcode via bluez-pin however can't get to match on connect08:36
seanzerals: no, you wouldn't want an nvidia card..08:36
daggerx(games work fine tho)08:36
DeagsDoesLinuxk one second08:36
Ashton_KOkay, sleepy time.08:36
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calvarezDeagsDoesLinux, if you have .tgz or .bz2 files, that means it is the source code. You need to compile it, and if you don't know much about linux, I'd suggest you drop it08:36
Ashton_KIt's 2:30 AM, I'm expected to be ... functioning tomorrow.08:36
seanzerals: but you should boot into text only and run X -configure08:36
cgeGirlRiver: I'm not sure then - as I said, it is difficult to get working, and is definitely a weak point.08:36
cbrunoi wish cedega would release their source code08:36
Ashton_KOr at least, make it work.08:36
Ashton_K:P08:36
cbrunowhats up with this 5 bucks a month08:36
calvarezDeagsDoesLinux, unless you're motivated enough to spend a decent amount of time learning things08:36
alsand go into vesa?08:36
cbrunoha08:36
avalonWell.. it says to cp ./touch.o /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-386/kernel/drivers/usb, but that dir doesn't exsist since I'm using a 2.6 kernel, so the only thing different is the kernel number.08:37
calvarezby decent I mean weeks08:37
GirlRivercge, grrr so close and so far ;-) thanks to get me this far08:37
cgeDeagsDoesLinux: You will want to start Synaptic from System/Administration08:37
Shdw|LaptopDoes anyone know how to get Xvideo working properly with a Radeon X1600?08:37
cgeGirlRiver: Try searching with google08:37
DeagsDoesLinuxok08:37
cbrunoafter 2 years i would have been better off buying windows home08:37
DeagsDoesLinuxi have started it08:37
dxdtDeagsDoesLinux, what are you looking for anyway?08:37
elysium444where can i find w32codecs, ubuntu 6.10 amd64, I have installed the other codecs but can't find this one.08:37
Ashton_KSearch for the games.08:37
Ashton_KSee if they show up.08:37
DeagsDoesLinuxgames08:37
Ashton_KIf they do, click the box next to them.08:37
calvarezDeagsDoesLinux, if you have the names of the games, you could see if they are available in apt-get08:37
seanzeravalon: do cp ./touch.o /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/usb/08:37
Ashton_KNo, search for the actual game titles.08:37
Hilobhttp://lists.netfilter.org/pipermail/netfilter/2006-November/067431.html08:37
cgeGirlRiver: for bluetooth and ubuntu. I recall seeing some forum topics and other places about it, which were better than the wiki.08:37
HilobCan anyone provide insight08:37
DeagsDoesLinuxlol apt get?08:37
HilobI'm having the EXACT same issue08:37
frogzoo!codecs | elysium44408:37
ubotuelysium444: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:37
Ashton_KIf you can fin dthem in synaptec, it'll make your life 30 billion times easier.08:38
DeagsDoesLinuxim so confused already and we havnt even begun lmao08:38
surface_DeagsDoesLinux, u searching for games work in linux?08:38
cgeDeagsDoesLinux: Use synaptic, not apt-get.08:38
calvarezDeagsDoesLinux, yes, apt-get is a program used to automatically download and install software in ubuntu08:38
seanzerdoes internet work in linux?08:38
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h3xisno08:38
h3xisit doesnt08:38
Murrlol08:38
calvarezDeagsDoesLinux, as a general rules (especially to people new to ubuntu), you NEVER google for software08:38
Ashton_Kapt-get, oh how I missed you.08:38
Ashton_K:P08:38
Ashton_KI was so tired of YAST.08:38
DeagsDoesLinuxok ok backup here so im in the package manager thing08:38
Ashton_KEither way, I'm out.08:38
HilobCan anyone help?08:38
Ashton_KBrain, is burnt up.08:38
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Ashton_KLater.08:38
cbrunoanyone think wine will ever get to the point where all win32 and directX apps will work out of the box08:38
Murrwhy must emerald hate me so08:38
calvarezyea, use the package manager08:38
DeagsDoesLinuxso i do a ssearch for the game title?08:39
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avalonStill a fatal module not found. How do I remove the first one that I copied to make sure that wasn't what it's trying to use seanzer?08:39
daggerxok brb>>>dreaded restart08:39
calvarezDeagsDoesLinux, FYI the package manager is called synaptic, and it is a graphical version of apt-get08:39
frogzooseanzer: large chunks of the internet are built on linux08:39
cbrunoso far i have only be able to get solitare to work08:39
cgeDeagsDoesLinux: Click on search08:39
DeagsDoesLinuxok cool08:39
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dxdtcbruno, I had system shock II working for a while08:39
DeagsDoesLinuxok clicked on search08:39
Murri'm not sure why xterms get proper skinning and beryl effects but my other windows (firefox, etc) have pure white borders08:39
h3xisfrogzoo, last i hear it was tubez08:39
calvarezDeagsDoesLinux, search for the titles and see if they come up08:39
surface_DeagsDoesLinux, good game intro http://blog.mypapit.net/2006/12/tremulous-addictive-open-source-game.html08:39
DeagsDoesLinuxok08:39
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dxdtcbruno, I also had XGL at the time so I had system shock II working on the corner of the cube as the cube spun.  Pretty cool stuff08:39
DeagsDoesLinuxok now if this helps any these games were all on sourceforge08:40
DeagsDoesLinuxbut they never have .deb files for them08:40
dxdtMurr, did you install emerald ?  They do like themese and borders and things if I recall.08:40
DeagsDoesLinuxsuposidly08:40
cbrunoyeah the only good thing about windows is the games08:40
calvarezDeagsDoesLinux, well, then most likely they will be there in the package manager08:40
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cgeDeagsDoesLinux: You will probably need to enable universe though to have any wide selection. You can do so by going to Settings->Repositories.08:40
J-_Can I reformat my Linux partition since I'm on a dualboot and will my windows partition still work after i do that?08:40
RancidLMhow do i enable synaptic to get  a 2.6.x smp kernel ? a "smp" search only shows a 2.4.x kernel that's available08:40
frogzooDeagsDoesLinux: apt-cache search foobar08:40
calvarezDeagsDoesLinux, that's because usually they put the sources for download in sourceforge, which means you have to compile them08:40
DeagsDoesLinuxwoah wait08:41
cgeJ-_: Yes, but only on the condition that you not hold me liable for saying so.08:41
DeagsDoesLinuxlol08:41
seanzerfrogzoo: that's not true :(08:41
DeagsDoesLinuxone person talk to me at once ima get confused08:41
J-_cge: lol08:41
frogzooseanzer: stop your trolling08:41
avalonseanzer: will it even work considering it's 2.4 kernel? I'm still getting the same error08:41
calvarezDeagsDoesLinux, again, always use the package manager and never a web browser to download and install things08:41
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J-_cge: nah, I wouldn't08:41
elysium444frogzoo:which one is safer and easy Linux Vserver or  dchroot? for the w32codecs (amd64)08:41
seanzeravalon: there's always a possibility, no garauntee08:41
cbrunodoes canonical help Deags situation when you buy support08:41
DeagsDoesLinuxok08:41
avalonseanzer: It's still fatal module not found08:41
seanzeravalon: you sure you did depmod -a08:42
frogzooelysium444: dunno, for desktop, 32bit is probly easier08:42
DeagsDoesLinuxok calvarez im in the repositories thing08:42
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elysium444thanks anyway08:42
cgecbruno: I'm not sure. If they don't, they should. It would probably be profitable.08:42
avalonseanzer: positive. After each copy file08:42
calvarezDeagsDoesLinux, you'll have to ask someone else, I'm not in ubuntu right now08:42
DeagsDoesLinuxo crap08:43
cgeDeagsDoesLinux: Click on Community maintained ... and Software restricted by ...08:43
cbrunoi wonder if canonicals support is limited to servers...i wonder if they mess with the desktop08:43
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cgeDeagsDoesLinux: Assuming they are already selected.08:43
cgecbruno: I think they support desktops as well.08:43
gr0k3mcorin: cheers, tried canonical and plf repos with no luck.. recommend any repos08:43
DeagsDoesLinuxi dont see it08:43
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cgeDeagsDoesLinux: Hmm... probably since I'm running Feisty instead of Edgy or Dapper.08:43
DeagsDoesLinuxim on dapper08:43
avalonseanzer: This part right here is why I ended up trying to compile from source. I even downgraded from Edgy to dapper to try to get it to modprobe, and alas nadda.08:43
DeagsDoesLinuxi did learn that yesterday lol08:43
cbrunohow did you get fiesty cge08:44
cgecbruno: With update-manager, amazingly.08:44
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cbrunothought that wasnt going to be released until next yar08:44
cbrunoyear08:44
chimaera_!codec08:44
cgecbruno: It isn't.08:44
chimaera_!codecs08:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:44
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DeagsDoesLinuxim trying to enable universe or something sge if u didnt know08:44
cbrunoso you got it by luck?!08:44
cgeDeagsDoesLinux: You should read help.ubuntu.com.08:44
DeagsDoesLinuxive tried to read about that stuff but i dont get it08:45
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seanzeravalon: well, if it weren't so late i'd try harder to help you :(08:45
cgeDeagsDoesLinux: ah.08:45
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avalonseanzer: N/p, will you be around tomorrow?08:45
cgeDeagsDoesLinux: one minute08:45
Daggerxok i put in the newest ati drivers, i have 3d acceleration but the screensavers run real bad08:45
DeagsDoesLinuxokie i got all night so no hurry08:45
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frogzooDaggerx: edgy or dapper? and which screensavers? rss-glx?08:46
Daggerxedgy08:46
cgeDeagsDoesLinux: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/extra-repositories.html has the instruction you want.08:46
seanzeravalon: possibly, but i only come on irc once in like every few weeks08:46
chimaera_wats microsoft fonts for08:46
seanzerDaggerx: how are you sure you have 3d acceleration08:46
Daggerxall of the 3d ones are rought, but glxinfo | grep rendering is yes08:46
DeagsDoesLinuxok ill read that and if i dont underrstand it ask again08:46
DeagsDoesLinuxthanks08:46
seanzerDaggerx: are you using xgl or xorg08:46
levanderI thought AshtonK and Midget were in here helping me get hardware acceleration up and running.  Are they just gone?08:47
Daggerxxorg08:47
Daggerxi think08:47
HilobBleh08:47
chimaera_wats microsoft fonts for??08:47
HilobForget it, time to go back to BSD08:47
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h3xischimaera_, so you can have arial and what not in linux?08:47
levanderDamn, I think they were in this channel.08:47
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chimaera_ic ok08:47
Tecnomanhi08:47
frogzoolevander: which vid card?08:47
Tecnomanhow is Feisty Fawn08:47
cgeDeagsDoesLinux: Keep in mind while reading such things that if something is described as illegal in some countries, it is probably illegal in the US, it is highly unlikely that anyone will be prosecuted for it, and it is probably something you want.08:47
frogzooTecnoman: it's pretty alpha08:48
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Tecnomanbut dont works fine?08:48
seanzerDaggerx: there's a command to switch the opengl rendering to ati drivers instead of mesa08:48
frogzoocge: but noone in this channel recommends you do anything illegal08:48
levanderfrogzoo: It's nvidia, I think I got it up and going.  But, Ashton told me "lsmod | grep nvidia-glx" would tell me if it's up and going.  There's no output for that command.  But, "glxinfo | grep rendering" says yes it is installed.08:48
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cgefrogzoo: I'm not recommending it.08:48
Daggerxhow can i tell if its using mesa?08:48
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OkinawaInstructohow can i share an external hard drive from one computer to another?08:49
cgefrogzoo: In fact, I don't even have multiverse enabled on a variety of my machines.08:49
h3xisDaggerx, run fireglcontrol08:49
levanderfrogzoo: Do you remember an Ashton in here helping a bunch of people?  This may just be different channel.08:49
h3xisthat will tell you08:49
DeagsDoesLinuxok its changed08:49
frogzoo!nvidia | levander08:49
ubotulevander: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:49
seanzerlevander: glxinfo | grep rendering says yes direct rendering is on, doesn't mean the right driver is installed08:49
DeagsDoesLinuxthanks cge08:49
cbrunobest linux support oem : hp, gateway, dell who win???08:49
h3xisDaggerx, under Renderer08:49
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h3xisit will say "mesa" or ati"08:49
DeagsDoesLinuxnow i can search for my games and find other good games?08:49
spikebcbruno: you mean which of those guys has the most linux compatible machines?08:49
seanzercbruno: dell08:49
cbrunoyeah08:50
seanzersadly :(08:50
spikebcbruno: probably dell08:50
cbrunoleast headache08:50
seanzerhp runner up08:50
BrendanMI thought none of them officially supported Linux08:50
seanzerand gateway can choke08:50
cflcm_I am trying to set up mt-daapd.  If I download a file from the internet and put it in the daapd directory it is served just fine, but if I rip it other i08:50
seanzeron an ipod08:50
Lynourecbruno: I do not know for sure, I always check component by component, to be sure.08:50
Daggerxohh i get baddevice with that08:50
seanzerBrendanM: dell supports linux08:50
cflcm_...other itunes can see it but not play it, wtf08:50
neurotechseanzer: I installed a Winamp 2 skin and it closed Audacious and now it wont restart - where can I find Audacious' config file to change the skin back to something that works?08:50
spikebBrendanM: he's not asking about official support, just least headache hardware support. although dell does support linux officially on a lot of their business machines08:50
seanzerBrendanM: dell puts lots and lots of linux drivers08:50
DaggerxX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16808:50
seanzerneurotech: ~/.something don't remember for sure right now.. to drunk08:50
avalonOkay... I so it looks like I'll be trying to rebuild the module..08:51
cgefrogzoo: One of the problems with the notices in my opinion is that most people will assume they mean that the software is illegal in dictatorships and such places, when in reality it nearly always means that the software is illegal in the US and some other places.08:51
BrendanMbut their tech people aren't trained to answer questions about Linux, at least not their consumer people08:51
h3xisDaggerx, you got that when you ran fireglcontrol?08:51
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cbrunowhat about toshiba and acer?08:51
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Daggerxyes08:51
avalonDon't suppos there's a step by step on module rebuilds is there?08:51
Daggerxok sec, gonna reinstall fglrx-control08:52
cgeseanzer: But that doesn't mean that Dell's tech support won't refuse to help you if you mention Linux.08:52
DeagsDoesLinuxcge , now that i have enabled the universe thing i am good to go on searching for the games i have correct?08:52
cgeDeagsDoesLinux: yes08:52
DeagsDoesLinuxok thanks08:52
frogzoocge: ip laws vary widely across jurisdictions, & it's not even clear that, for instance, libdvdcss is illegal in the us08:52
Daggerxnow things are mad, brb gotta reboot08:52
seanzercge: it's true, but if you're an enterprise partner, they will08:52
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cbrunoyeah hp informed that i had voided my warranty after I installed breezy08:53
seanzercge: they send out techs to help fix w/e issues with your servers and/or workstations, they also set up shitty linux distros for you (SuSE and RH enterprise)08:53
frogzoocbruno: installing s/w is a breech of warranty? which moron at tech support did you contact?08:54
cbrunosome dude in india or malaysia08:54
neurotechta seanzer08:54
frogzoocbruno: he doesn't speak for the company, as he's clearly an idiot08:54
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cbrunoi bought one of those lame no recovery disk windows is on a partition machines at best buy08:54
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cbrunoput breezy on it08:54
BrendanMYeah, well if you're an enterprise customer, hardware manufacturers will just about come give you a reach-around if you call them08:54
cbrunowanted disks just in case08:54
cbrunohp wouldnt send um08:55
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BrendanMif your company bought enough stuff from HP, I'm sure they'd send whatever techs you wanted08:55
jw_606Hello, How do I get  3D acceleration working in VMware ? I am using Ubuntu 6.10 and have Windows XP pro on a VMware vrdrive08:55
holycowjw_606, i don't think vmware is capable of that yet for win clients08:55
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holycowwin guests08:55
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daggerxack that hurt08:56
holycowjw_606, that would strickly be a feature enabled by the vmware tools btw08:56
frogzoojw_606: 3d in vmware - lol - can't be done afaik - you'd need emulation of 3d h/w, and that seems pretty pointless08:56
holycowwhich are easy to install in a win guest08:56
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jw_606Well I'm trying to get 'ProQuake' running in Linux but I get errors when I try to run it :/ so I figured I'd try it in Vmware08:57
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daggerxok, it show's OpenGL:   vendor ATI Technologies Inc  version 2.0.6174  Renderer: ATI Mobility Radeon X1300 Generic08:57
cbrunowhat if besy buy started selling ubuntu machines08:57
cbrunothat would be cool08:57
daggerxand screen savers still messed up08:57
h3xisdaggerx, i have that same card08:57
holycowjw_606, search up the vmware forums on their site maybe there is more updated info there08:57
h3xisdaggerx, you wouldnt happen to have a thinkpad would you?08:57
holycowjw_606, its hard to support something as proprietary as vmware08:57
frogzoojw_606: you'd do better to get native linux working08:57
daggerxno its a dell08:57
daggerx150508:58
Lynourecbruno: Why Best Buy? Some companies already do sell e.g. laptops with Linux preinstalled08:58
h3xisdaggerx, i run debian and i got it to work. im not sure if it would work for you08:58
fowlduckcbruno: www.system76.com08:58
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daggerxi can play even games like PPracer, chromium ect08:58
neurotechHow do I change the default application that opens video files?08:58
daggerxget full acceleration08:58
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cbrunobest buy is brick and motar08:58
daggerxbut the screensavers mess up with updated drivers08:58
h3xisdont use the updated drivers then08:59
daggerxlike thye dont have acceleration08:59
OkinawaInstructohow can i share an external hard drive from one computer to another?08:59
StormGuyWhat's a good computer manufacturer for Linux users?  I've had a fairly difficult time getting my Gateway laptop Ubuntu-ready and...if I had to buy another computer in the future, who would you suggest buying from?  Is there a very Linux-friendly company out there?08:59
holycowStormGuy, no such thing08:59
daggerxdell 1505 is good on ubuntu08:59
holycowcouple of rules for buying systems08:59
StormGuyholycow, I was afraid of that :(08:59
cbrunohp dv1000 series is excellent08:59
holycowa: desktops you should NEVER buy from a brand name08:59
cflcm_anyone here use mt-daapd08:59
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daggerxeverything but ati worked from start08:59
h3xisdaggerx, just curious, how much is vram?08:59
holycowbrand manufactures sell th elabel, they will stuff anything they can depending on supply in the box08:59
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daggerx128meg09:00
cgecbruno: About HP - I would contact someone higher up - you certainly have not voided your warranty.09:00
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neurotechHow do I change the default application that opens video files?09:00
holycowb) for laptops you don't have a lot of choice to build your self, so you must buy for the chipset09:00
jw_606frogzoo, I am new to Linux, I try to compile ProQuake but I get this error "Error: memory overwrite in Sys_Printf"09:00
holycowcurrently for laptops you should prioritize intell ONLY chipset models09:00
frogzoo!hardware | StormGuy you're best off checking support for the h/w of any particular model09:00
cbrunoyeah i hope your right09:00
ubotuStormGuy you're best off checking support for the h/w of any particular model: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport09:00
holycowthe brand doesn't make any difference09:00
LynoureStormGuy: http://www.linux-laptop.net/ is handy, too09:00
holycowc) you can't just buy stuff randomly you haveto buy for the chipset09:00
cbrunoanything with intel chipsets will work very well09:00
cgeholycow: Well, the brand of the chipset is important.09:00
daggerxI like AMD chipsets lol09:01
holycowi'm thinking of starting up a company to help out with these purchases my self09:01
holycowi'm tired of dealing with manufacturers aind know nothing retailers09:01
cbrunoavoid exotic AMD and ati chipsets09:01
pegsi have an asus a7jc.. other than wifi and inbuilt tv, everything seems to work fine09:01
holycowamd chipsets are VERY problematic09:01
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holycowi just bought 6 mobos with latest amd chipsets09:01
holycowbiiiiig mistake09:01
daggerxi havent had much problems on my other computer09:01
spikebintel chipsets are very well supported09:01
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daggerxintel is great support especially in linux09:02
holycowi like amd and love to support the underdog but the chipset companies that ship with amd cpus are basically gargabe imho09:02
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StormGuydaggerx, save for that snd-hda-intel soundcard :(09:02
cbrunoif you get intel chipset with intel GMA graphics and intel PRO wireless, ubuntu will work right out of the box09:02
spikebyep09:02
holycowi used to be able to live with it but in the end they are all a joke featurewise and open source compatability wise09:02
frogzooStormGuy now that hp, ibm, hp are starting to offer commercial linux support, you could review their product range to find out what they're running linux on09:02
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StormGuyfrogzoo, oh?  That's a pretty appealing option :)09:03
holycowthe problem with those companies is JUST TRY to order a linux laptop or desktop09:03
daggerxmy ubuntu worked off the cd after i modded it with a script to load ati drivers09:03
daggerx:P09:03
cgeTalking about laptops, I've been thinking about buying a new one, but have been concerned about buying one with shared graphics (Intel, of course), since I have always had dedicated. How is the Intel integrated video with Ubuntu, especially in comparison to, say, a 32MB ATI  M9000 with the open source driver?09:03
frogzooholycow: ibm is very behind linux09:03
spikebsystem76.com sells ubuntu computers :)09:03
holycowoh add another point to the above list09:03
holycowd: NEVER EVER buy anything with ati in it09:03
spikebcge: much better, if you have a 950 or better09:03
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pegsdaggerx: nice09:03
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cbrunoyou can also get nvidia chipset09:04
holycowfrogzoo, total bullshit.  they support it as long as you are willing to pay $150 / hr for global services they offer09:04
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cgespikeb: In terms of speed as well?09:04
spikebcge: yes09:04
daggerxjust remember ... many games dont support anything but nvidia and ati (incase you put windows on too)09:04
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cbrunojust stay the heck away from new AMD and ati09:04
cgecbruno: I don't like binary drivers.09:04
holycowjus try to get anything ibm with linux on it outside of redhat / suse and some contract09:04
holycowits a joke09:04
frogzooholycow: dude, you've not right to be both dismissive and course :p09:04
cbrunobetter than no drivers09:04
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chimaerais it possible to get a cam built into my laptop to work?09:04
holycowi deal with ibm09:04
holycowi'm totally correct to be dismissive09:04
holycowtheir vendor support for desktop level things is windows only, you won't find anyone that has a clue about linux09:05
spikebcge: if you dont like binary drivers, get something with an intel integrated video chipset09:05
cgeholycow: HP actually sells many systems without a full OS (unless you consider FreeDOS to be a full OS).09:05
StormGuyI've notice older laptops tend to take to Linux much better than new ones09:05
cbrunointel GMA 950 is very good09:05
spikebcbruno: aye09:05
holycowcge, i heard they even offer laptops with ubuntu09:05
holycowi've yet to see a way to order one online09:06
cbrunofor most apps you wont be able to tell that its shared09:06
frogzooholycow: ibm have a serious prolinux agenda, if they're not delivering to a standard you like at the moment, it's the business, not the politics09:06
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holycowi don't even know what # to call to order an hp laptop withubuntu09:06
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holycowbut thats not even the issue09:06
holycowone shouldn't buy a brand09:06
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cgeholycow: They only sell them in "select markets", if I recall.09:06
cbrunoi ran ppracer on my GMA and compared it with it on my NVIDIA graphics card09:06
holycowyou haveto buy for the chipset, because eventually you will be supporting your self and you need a supported chipset09:06
xipietotecholycow: unfortunately, laptops are brand ridden09:06
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StormGuyAlso, my girlfriend's Toshiba ran everything perfectly right out of the box with Ubuntu...but my Gateway required some work to get the wireless to work...and I can't ever get sound, really.09:06
holycowcge, *nod* yeah basically pointless09:06
jw_606How do I fix this error? "/usr/include/asm-i386/io.h:4:26: error: linux/string.h: No such file or directory"09:06
StormGuyIs Toshiba a good Linux company, or was that just a fluke?09:07
holycowxipietotec, right thats why you don't buy 'hp' you google and find out what model has what chipset09:07
cbrunoof course, higher resolution on the NVIDIA card, but not much difference at standard 1024x768 res09:07
cgeholycow: I would buy a specific brand if they were to reliably support Ubuntu.09:07
StormGuygood company for Linux*09:07
psch_hansis this a known issue? i upgraded from 6.06 to 6.10 ... after rebbot "failed to start x server"09:07
xipietotecholycow: oh, absolutely, although you can also go to emperorlinux.com and buy laptops preconfigured and whatnot09:07
holycowfrogzoo, ibm really have bought into linux but i deal with them.  its all just a bunch of bull to sell their global services at $150 / hr09:07
spikebsystem76 sells ubuntu laptops - rebranded asus laptops i believe09:07
holycowfrogzoo, you won't be getting anything but a server with linux installed on it from them09:07
holycowor desktop support09:07
cbrunoanyone see those laptons from emperor linux09:07
cgespikeb: Yes.09:07
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holycowxipietotec, right that probably is the best way09:08
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cbrunoha- a new elementary partcile---the lapton09:08
spikebhaha09:08
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spikebout of my price range, those emperor lappies09:08
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cbrunowhy are they so overpriced09:09
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frogzooStormGuy: you'll find many good reports for various toshiba models: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam09:09
spikebcbruno: it seems many smaller dealers are vastly overpriced.09:09
xipietoteccbruno: custom kernel, pre-configured, custom made for emperor linux, niche market09:09
cbrunoyou could by 3 windows laptops with same configs for the price of 1 emp linux laptop09:09
cgecbruno: system76 actually has reasonable prices, as does laclinux09:09
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cbrunoyeah but isnt part of the spirit of linux that its CHEAPER than M$09:09
spikebcbruno: and since anyone who sells linux hardware at the consumer level is a smaller dealer, we tend to get the bad end of the stick.09:09
cgecbruno: no09:09
dxdtyeah system76 is more reasonable09:09
dxdtstill  bit off09:10
midgetg0atcheaper? no.09:10
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midgetg0atid imagine linux techs are more expensive than windows.09:10
midgetg0atsupply and demand....09:10
spikebdxdt: not really, loook at the prices of the asus laptops without the system76 branding: it's like ten dollars cheaper.09:10
frogzooStormGuy: also: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/Toshiba09:10
peggerxmms don't play the vqf with vqf plugin. why??? somebody help.09:10
holycowcbruno i doubt the features are the same09:10
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dxdtspikeb, what do you mean not really if it is only ten dollars off that's exactly what I said with "still a bit off"09:11
cgespikeb: But if I recall, emperorlinux is several hundred dollars over the prices of the laptops from the original brands.09:11
spikebdxdt: ten dollars is not a bit. it's miniscule.09:11
spikebcge: heh yeah that would not surprise me09:11
cbrunoyeah they charge 2400 for a rebranded ibm tablet09:11
cbrunothat ibm sells for 120009:11
spikebmmm thinkpads09:11
cbrunowith windows09:11
holycowcbruno, your completely misinterpretting something09:12
dxdtspikeb, so you are now arguing with me that when I said a "bit" I should have said "miniscule"  omg whatever....09:12
spikebdxdt: aye.09:12
holycowthats simply not possible even in specialized markets09:12
spikebdxdt: i spend too much time in political channels09:12
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cgeholycow: Take a look at emperorlinux  - the prices really are that absurd, if I recall correctly.09:12
StormGuyfrogzoo, thanks09:13
frogzooStormGuy: yw09:13
StormGuycge, I just discovered that...good grief :(09:13
cbrunoi mean i like ubuntu---but it should be more than a hobby os09:13
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jw_606Here is the error I get, can someone help me with this? http://paste.getlinuxhelp.org/5489309:13
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cbrunoI like the idea of the 100 laptop project09:13
cgecbruno: It is only a hobby OS from a home desktop user perspective.09:14
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holycowcge, incorrect09:14
holycowwe are switching our entire company to it09:14
cbrunoyeah but I think ubuntu can be used to get people acccess to technology that they otherwise could not afford09:14
holycowits a hobby to cluebies09:14
cgeholycow: Err, that is exactly what I said. It is only a hobby OS from the standpoint of the home desktop user.09:15
holycowif you know what you are doing its easy to put to very serious use09:15
holycowagain incorrect09:15
cgeholycow: And even then, only general home users.09:15
holycowagain incorrect09:15
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holycowit depends on what you really mean by 'hobby'09:15
holycowa hobby is something you take up as an interest09:15
cbrunoi think what cge is saying is that most people who use ubuntu in the HOME tend to be techies/geeks09:16
holycowa product is something you buy and pay service for09:16
holycowi have 6 home users running ubuntu as parto f a pilot project (users were prescreened of course)09:16
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holycowwhat you might mean is that you can't exactly buy an ubuntu preinstalled home system for a home user09:16
cbrunoto even know about ubuntu in the first place means you research technology issues09:16
holycowor get support for it at  your local repair shop09:17
Lynoureholycow: I was just looking at a site that offered just that09:17
Lynoureholycow: but it was here in Finland09:17
cgeholycow: By hobby I mean that I believe most non-developer/academic/sysadmin/etc. home users right now take up Ubuntu as a hobby rather than a serious OS, unfortunately, and that is in large part due to the lack of preinstallation and such things.09:17
holycowcbruno, probably for the most part right now.  there is also the marketing perspective09:17
holycowno one is really selling / pushing ubuntu09:17
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holycownot one of our clients really knew much about linux until we educated them selves for example09:17
holycowwhich is kind of like most windows users ... none of them research it, they only know about it  because their friends use it and all the retailers push it09:18
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holycowcge, i think that probably might be correct09:18
cgeholycow: It depends on the market, I guess. Most people in Physics in academia know quite a bit about it.09:18
holycowwe are moving from uber geek to power user demographic indeed09:18
holycowbut we are seeing  A LOT of cross demographic bleed09:19
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holycowa lot more 'regular' users are finding it easy to get into too ... i would agree its probably a small percentage09:19
holycowokay so let me ask you this guys09:19
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seanzeri don't agree for the mass migration over to linux09:20
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seanzerit's like a club for us ;)09:20
holycowif there was a company offering linux based laptops online, would that be of any interest?09:20
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h3xisoh my09:20
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cgeoh dear09:20
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h3xishaha09:20
Lynourehmmm.09:20
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seanzerlol09:20
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holycowi mean something specifically offering ubuntu, and keeping prices close to retail win machines?09:20
seanzer+i :(09:20
h3xislol internetz.09:20
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seanzerholycow: the prices can easily be lower.. but no one gets up one day and says, hey i want a linux computer09:21
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seanzerholycow: and there are a lot of places taht do offer linux as the os09:21
spikebi do09:21
seanzerbrb09:21
Lynoureholycow: there are such companies and yes, they are of interest, but do you mean to us or to a random person?09:21
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spikebin fact, i wake up every day and say that09:21
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holycowseanzer, for easmple?  you mean crappy places like sub300.com or whatever?09:21
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holycowi don't think going after the random user is usefull at all09:21
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holycowpersonally, i wouldn't want to actually deal with the average windows customer09:22
Lynoureholycow: Ironically, to a computer newbie Linux can be much less hassle than Windows.09:22
pegssome people like nuking the machine and re-installing the os freash..09:22
holycowLynoure, thats what we have found too09:22
holycowLynoure, infact its easier to pick up the less you know indeed09:22
cgeholycow: I would certainly be interested in a company offering Ubuntu laptops, but if you are going to go after power users and such you would have to deal with specific wants.09:22
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cgeFor example, I am unlikely to buy a laptop with a screen that has a resolution of less than 124 dpi, or that weighs more than 6 pounds.09:23
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Lynoureholycow: Yes, I noticed that with my mother. No nasty MS windows habits to keep her from getting used of Linux09:23
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nixternalholy cow09:23
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seanzerstill goin on09:23
X-Ceptionthe bot's are back.09:23
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X-Ceptionugh.09:23
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cgeThe attack is specific to #ubuntu, it seems.09:23
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nixternalya cge, one of them punks tried to get me09:24
holycowLynoure, yup its pretty emazing.  what we have found out is that people don't learn to use computers.  they memorize the size, shape an dposition of the gui widgets.  its harder for a win user to switch because they spent 15 years memorizing the windows gui09:24
cgeCould someone please set the registration requirement?09:24
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chimaerausing ls, how do i list only files starting with a certain character? example h* or hi*09:26
petafileIs there an easy way to change the text color on the panel in beryl? (is it different from metacity?)09:26
h3xisis the fun over?09:26
nixternalno, because they are still trying to dcc me09:26
cgechimaera: ls h* or ls hi*09:26
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chimaeracge: how do i prevent it from listing the contents of the directories09:27
cgechimaera: oh09:27
cgechimaera: -d I think09:27
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frogzooholycow: if I could buy online a linux laptop, that would be where I'd go, but it's a hard call, because buyers would expect _everything_ to work, and work out of the box09:27
nixternaljeesh, they just don't stop09:27
chimaeracge: yay thnx09:27
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h3xisnixternal, piss someone off? :P09:27
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nixternalhehe must have09:27
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OkinawaInstructocan someone help me set up a printer09:28
frogzooholycow: and even then, there would be the 2nd wave of people trying to connect their laptops into the corporate doze network09:28
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holycowfrogzoo, that wouldn't be an issue at all09:29
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frogzooholycow: you mean h/w support, or the doze lan ?09:29
holycowpeople have enough problems just connecting windows to a network, its something everyone expects to be a problem09:29
holycowwin lan09:29
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frogzooholycow: for instance, there's no good ntlm agent for linux09:30
holycowubuntu just works on that level anyway, samaba works gbreat09:30
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StormGuyKinda off-topic...but from what little I've seen of Linux, it seems like the more people that use the operating system...the more it grows (almost exponentially) just due to the nature of it.  It's kinda depressing that more people don't use it.  The computing world would really benefit :(09:30
holycowfrogzoo, anyone that  needs that should either complain to their sysadmin or stay on windows.09:30
J-_woo hooo Linux successfully reformatted on dualboot.09:30
frogzooholycow: 2nd, evolution's support for exchange is hairy09:30
StormGuyOr I could be totally wrong09:30
holycowoh yeah exchange isn't something i would care about at all09:30
holycowusers would be on their own09:30
frogzooholycow: and then there's syncing to pocketpcs, it's a very grey area09:31
holycowits their own fault for using crap like exchange09:31
holycowheh09:31
Erb_How do you paste external data in VIM (copied from another application)09:31
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LynoureStormGuy: if you look at servers, Linux is already more popular than on the desktop09:31
holycowyeah again its their fault for buying garbage devices with on cross platform support09:31
cgeErb_: "+p09:32
StormGuyLynoure, truly?  I've heard that Google uses it09:32
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holycowfrogzoo, my feeling is to put together a company that sells all stuff that either 'just works' on linux or 'just works' in a cross platform way09:32
cgeErb_: In general, the + register is the X clipboard09:32
holycowthere isn't a lot of it out there09:32
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holycowbut i have no sympathy for people expecting random electronics to just magically work together09:32
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h3xisholycow, that's like 80% of the planet09:33
seanzersilly people09:33
petafileWhat's the easiest way to change the color of panel text w/ beryl?09:33
J-_like creative zen's and Ubuntu.. took me 2-3 days to figure out how to install, finally found a good tutorial and it worked awesome.09:33
Erb_Thanks cge - might map ctrl-v09:33
h3xismost people think that 802.11 is "magic"09:33
holycowyeah, it's not like i would be interested in anything but a very tiny fractkion of a percent09:33
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seanzerlike my car, it took me 10 years to figure out how to wire the electronics back together09:34
J-_cge: yeah thanks for the good heads up =D (the dualboot) it worked =D09:34
cgeJ-_: Finding a good tutorial is key to many thing in Linux.09:34
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LynoureStormGuy: many companies, big and small use Linux in their servers. Maybe I can find you some statistics...09:35
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frogzoocge: J-_ man -k is your friend09:35
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J-_cge: that's what i've learned, if there were none... i'd be skunked...09:35
Rookie_tldp ....09:35
slideI have a motherboard that can boot from any device before any os loads up, I installed windows on hdc, and just now I installed ubuntu on the second half of hdc, but when i boot hdc from the bios, it says invalid os or something like that, any ideas?09:35
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xipietotecLynoure: Linux has something like 76% market share in the server market09:35
seanzerdon't you mean sco?09:35
seanzerhaha09:35
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holycowslide, why are you using the bios to select the os from your hd?09:36
holycowlet the bootlaoder do it09:36
xipietotecof course....most of those are RHEL or FC09:36
slideholycow: well, I have OSX on my first hd09:36
Rookie_http://www.tldp.org/09:36
UHUYAny Apache experts here ? I need help with installilng mod_rewrite for running CakePHP09:36
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slidenever really bothered trying to figure out how to setup all that09:36
J-_frogzoo: huh? :S09:36
cgexipietotec: I'm not sure that FC has more than us.09:36
holycowslide, ohhhh osx -_-  i don't know a lot about mac hardware specifics09:36
seanzerewwwwwww09:36
StormGuyxipietotec: I'd always heard people talking about how great Windows Server 2003 was...I had no idea Ubuntu was so big in the server world @_@09:36
seanzerone of the devs from php came here to talk about how mod_rewrite was something he DIDN'T like09:37
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holycoware macs powered by ati graphics chips or nvidia ones?09:37
cgeStormGuy: *Ubuntu* isn't - Linux is.09:37
h3xisnvidia, i believe09:37
J-_LAMP is wicked09:37
slideI think the way the bios boots any disk is it makes it seem like its the primary master, dunno though09:37
seanzerati09:37
petafileholycow, looks like the newest ones are intel09:37
xipietotecStormGuy: people who say windows server 2003 is great....probably have never ran linux =P09:37
StormGuycge: whoops, misread09:37
petafileor the macbook i'm looking at at least09:37
frogzooStormGuy: ubuntu's not that big yet - RHEL is the big linux player for servers, for the moment09:37
ck41Hi all, Would anyone here kind enough to help me to track down the problem i'm having in Firefox, please?09:37
petafilefor real though, is there a nice easy way to change the color of panel text w/ beryl?09:37
seanzerxipietotec: i bet you've never run vista ultimate09:38
xipietotecseanzer: and I have no desire to really09:38
seanzerck41: if you would be more specific i'm sure someone can help09:38
GreyGhostxipietotec ,most servers have been running *nix for a long time now....09:38
J-_I should have installed 6.10, i'll settle for 6.06 til 6.10 is really really stable.09:38
seanzerpetafile: what's your window manager?09:38
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cgeck41: Unless it is a question about DPI settings not being followed accurately, in which case no one will know the answer.09:38
petafileseanzer, beryl09:38
frogzooJ-_: I think you'll find 6.06 LTS will always be more stable than 6.1009:38
xipietotecGreyGhost: I wish I could convince my mom of that. (She's a windows sys-admin and linux-phobe)09:39
cgeJ-_: Upgrading to 6.10 is rather easy.09:39
seanzerpetafile: i mean.. window decorator09:39
frogzooJ-_: for the simple reason that 6.06 will be supported for 5 years, 6.10 only 209:39
GreyGhostxipietotec , ppl have their preferences ;)09:39
petafileseanzer how do I check?09:39
pegs-using-e17atiwish i could use 6.10 :(09:39
ck41seanzer:  right. i need someone to check the ajax page with firefox which runs very slowly ONLY with firefox.  http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/examples/dragdrop/list.html?mode=dist09:39
seanzerpetafile: well.. are you using gnome?09:39
cgexipietotec: The style of administration is very different between the two, so admins on one tend to dislike the other.09:39
xipietotecSun has released a clone of Aero by the way....for free...on all systems capable of running java09:39
petafileyeah09:39
J-_cge: ah i see09:40
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J-_cge:  makes sense09:40
seanzerck41: doesn't surprise me09:40
holycowxipietotec, thats a piece of junk09:40
holycowits also not a clone09:40
pegs-using-e17what do you mean by slow?09:40
seanzeri wonder how much more stress we've put on servers by using http.config.pipelining09:40
petafileseanzer seems its emerald09:40
bakksi have a quick question, i mounted a hard drive to a folder, and now i cant do anything with it unless i am root, how do i fix it?09:40
ck41seanzer:  the list is "sortable" (draggable). it works smoothly in Opera or Wine IE, or WinXP(vm)'s Firefox & IE09:40
seanzerpetafile: then use emerald's theme manager09:40
xipietotecholycow: I hadn't tried running it yet09:40
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cgec4Ok, runs slowly with ff, let me try using opera.09:41
petafileseanzer, where can you change the panel's properties in emerald?09:41
cgeErr, ck4109:41
holycowxipietotec, its java based garbage ... give it a whirl but it will never be adopetd by anyone in the general set of linux distributions09:41
ck41but its slow and lagged and jerky in firefox (so far, only linux)09:41
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holycowxipietotec, we have at least 2 other implemenations, xgl and aiglx that are superior and have hardware vendor support09:41
GreyGhostxipietotec , u mean looking glass?09:42
spikebxgl and aiglx are not 3d09:42
holycowaiglx looks like will be the defacto standard despite glx having some interesting hoopla surrounding it via beryl and such09:42
spikeblooking glass is.09:42
cgeck41: Yes, it is much faster in opera.09:42
holycowof course they are 3d09:42
holycowwtf are  you talking about?09:42
holycowglx and aiglx are hardware accelerated just as looking glass is09:42
spikebhave you actually USED looking glass? the ENITRE desktop is 3d. all of it.09:42
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slideWhat packages do I need to compile most things?09:42
GreyGhostxipietotec ,if u mean that .... then its been around for some time....09:42
xipietotecholycow: I'm aware of that, thought I might check the java one out though....I actually think Java is going to be important for developing interoperable apps...much as I like python, there are more java developers, and java is on more non PC platforms09:42
petafileoh well, I'm out09:42
holycoweverything else is a 'special effect' within that context09:42
h3xisslide, build-essential09:43
NineTeen67CometGrrr .. how can I move ALL items in a directory (to include hidden, and sub-directories) to another directory? .. Every time I try it makes a new directory with all the stuff in it .. eg: cp -Rv /home/justin /media/new-home/justin .. created /media/new-home/justin/justin .. all I want is the stuff, not the directory and all it's stuff ..09:43
pegs-using-e17ck41: using minefield.. seems ok09:43
cgeholycow: I think the idea is that looking glass is actually 3d as in moving windows around in 3d, a rather strange and not very useful idea.09:43
frogzoock41: no discernible difference between ff2 & ie609:43
J-_When this updating is done, on grub it'll show 2 kernel versions. Should I just leave it like that, or is that the only option.. or can I delete the first one, and keep the newest?09:43
holycowxipietotec, oh yeah of course.  :) fun right?  java is very important in that area already, its the defining reason its used *nod*09:43
slideh3xis: thank you09:43
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holycowcge, no thats wrong, the basic ida is that you take the current desktop and accelerate it on the gpu09:43
cgeJ-_: Always best to have two kernels there in case one breaks.09:43
holycowthus all 3 are 3d by default09:43
J-_cge: k cool, thanks dude.09:44
spikebthat's not the point of looking glass at all - that's a necessary side effect.09:44
holycowall that differnetiates the basic idea behind them are the 3d effects used to 'interpret' what a desktop / window manager is09:44
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ck41cge & pegs-using-e17 & frogzoo : thanks for testing! hmm i'm confused now09:44
cgeholycow: I know - but the basic idea of looking glass is that the desktop is *actually three dimensional*, if I recall, as opposed to systems using 3d acceleration.09:44
frogzooslide: 'build-essential'09:44
ivanoatshi, all of a sudden I can't start tomboy - I get (Tomboy:4286): libtomboy-WARNING **: Binding '<Alt>F12' failed!09:44
holycowcge, like i said09:44
holycowit's just an effect09:45
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cgeholycow: So would you consider wmii or ion3 to be "just special effects"?09:45
holycowthere are a log of apps that do some sort of lame 3D'ness to windows and window management types of functions09:45
pegs-using-e17ck41: confused??09:45
bernhardGood mornig09:45
xipietotecholycow: which is why it's OMGWTFBBQAWESOME that Java is now GPL'd.09:45
holycowcge, i would yes *nod*09:45
J-_... lol09:45
cgeholycow: Hmm...09:45
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MikeyMikewhat is /sys/block ??09:46
MikeyMikewhat resides there09:46
holycowcge, i could well be wrong in my interpretation :)09:46
MikeyMikedm-0 i see......09:46
ck41pegs-using-e17:  yes.. cge and me gets slow down, but not you & frogzoo's end.09:46
xipietoteceven though Java is in my FFox...and Firefox eats all my memory09:46
GreyGhostnice ... Java being GPL ed will be bugless and much faster in no time...09:46
cgeck41: I am probably running too many things right now.09:46
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frogzoock41: ff2, sun java & edgy here, runs np09:47
xipietotecGreyGhost: hahahaha, that's what they said about Firefox =P09:47
pegs-using-e17whats frogzoo running (firefox version)... and other apps??09:47
ck41pegs-using-e17:  can you check if this works same speed on FF & Opera? (more noticeable here)  http://script.aculo.us/playground/test/functional/sortable_tree_test.html09:47
pegs-using-e17i got dapper, e17 and minefield09:47
J-_hrm.... downloading packages 18.9 kb/s.. =S09:47
MikeyMikewhat is /proc and all the sub directories? is it okay to store files there09:47
lanlos1anyone prefer kopete over gaim?09:47
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ck41cge:  but if it works much smoother in opera, running many things shouldn't matter...09:48
J-_i like amsn09:48
holycowjava isn't slow09:48
chimaerais there an easier way to share files other than using samb09:48
seanzer /proc is the heart of your computer09:48
chimaerais there an easier way to share files other than using samba09:48
holycowthe problem with java its fairly low level and hard to write in09:48
lanlos1amsn work with multiple networks?09:48
J-_not sure09:48
cgeck41: It could be that something else was running when I tested in in ff, and not running when testing it in opera.09:48
seanzeryou can make your computer magically have different pieces of hardware by putting it in /proc09:48
holycowand you get java devs making apps that are poorly engineered at least on the desktop09:48
seanzerlike instant noodles09:48
seanzer!09:48
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frogzoochimaera: nfs perhaps09:49
lanlos1I love the irc client in gaim but I love the instant messanger features of kopete09:49
lanlos1over the irc in kopete09:49
h3xissamba is pretty easy09:49
J-_irssi ftw =D09:49
ck41frogzoo:  Would you check this site too? this is also "sortable list"> http://script.aculo.us/playground/test/functional/sortable_tree_test.html09:49
h3xisi dont think it can get any easier than that09:49
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lanlos1and there doesn't seem to be file transfers in kopete09:49
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pegs-using-e17ck41: its a bit laggy in following the cursor (less than half a second lag) in minefield09:49
xipietoteclanlos1: so you're the one person who likes gaim's IRC client09:49
chimaerahmm i edited samba.conf to change my workgroup name but its still the same... i think restarting the daemon will help but how do i do that09:49
xipietotecI did not believe you existed09:49
h3xischimaera, /etc/init.d/samba restart? i think?09:50
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seanzerirssi > *09:50
x-r00t-xhello . can anyone tell me how do i use .conkyrc?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28186509:50
h3xisbitchx > irssi09:50
chimaeraworks :)09:51
pegs-using-e17brb09:51
surface_h3xis, irssi uses alt 1 2 3 4 to shift channel, can i bind it with my key?09:51
ck41pegs-using-e17:  here i get maybe moer than 1 sec lag the item follow the pointer.. hmm09:51
h3xissurface_, i dont use irssi...much. ask seanzer09:51
surface_sorry09:51
seanzerLOL, you jerk.09:52
x-r00t-xh3xis, can youi tell me how to use bitchx ?09:52
h3xishahaha09:52
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h3xisx-r00t-x, google can.09:52
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J-_surface_: http://www.irssi.org09:52
seanzerhahahahha09:52
seanzerbitchx is just some fancy colors for irssi09:52
seanzerlol09:52
seanzersupposed to make you feel like l33t hax0rz09:53
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h3xisi used bitchx before xchat09:53
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x-r00t-x!conkyrc09:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about conkyrc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:53
seanzeri'd use kvirc over xhat09:53
x-r00t-x!.conkyrc09:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about conkyrc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:53
h3xiskvirc is kde though?09:53
J-_I used xchat, then I haerd about terminal irc programs, tried bitchx then went to irssi09:53
frogzoock41: seems usable if a bit slow on the lappie09:54
J-_kvirc works in gnome heh09:54
x-r00t-x!offtpic09:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about offtpic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:54
h3xishaha09:54
h3xisoh man...09:54
x-r00t-x!offtopic09:55
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!09:55
holycowi've settled on xchat now that it has a hierarchical tab view09:55
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ck41frogzoo:  Do you have other browser installed? opera, konqueror.. etc ?09:55
xipietotechttp://tinyurl.com/2c9np <---for all googling needs09:55
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frogzoock41: nope, I tried on the doze/ie6 box which is faster, but it's also 2x the cpu09:55
holycowas an aside ...09:56
J-_Opera is sweet =D firefox 2.0 rocks too heh09:56
holycowhttp://alluc.org/09:56
holycowtv shows galore online09:56
h3xiswhat's tv.09:56
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x-r00t-xhello . can anyone tell me how do i use .conkyrc?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28186509:57
holycowlol good point09:57
holycowso anyone else have any ubuntu related q's?09:57
holycow:)09:57
dintHi, I have problem in networking. I have usb modem and a WiFi connecting to server. I choose default gateway to WiFi router (192.168.0.1). When I start internet connection and WiFi is turn off, everything is ok. But after I turn on the Wifi. the internet is not responding. What can I do?09:57
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seanzerfirefox 3 is better!09:57
violotDoes Ubuntu have any non-open source programs installed by default?09:57
cflcm_when a program is run automatically (eg. when inserting a cd) is it run as the user?09:57
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x-r00t-xsudo apt-get moo09:58
chimaerawhen i try to connect using winxp to my linux running samba , i get a prompt for password but i cant seem to login after entering username and pass! i set security = user in samba.conf09:58
frogzooviolot: no09:58
holycowviolot, i think only drivers from nvidia and ati09:58
x-r00t-xis really great09:58
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ck41frogzoo:  i see. thanks. hmm it works flawlessly in winxp firefox, but its VM on same machine. so it supposed to be same or less CPU speed :)09:58
hagabakaare there enlightenment 17 packages for ubuntu, or do i have to build from CVS?09:58
x-r00t-xapz09:58
violotThen why is gNewSense created?09:58
violotholycow: Does it include drivers by default?09:58
violotI had the "nv" driver rather than the "nvidia" by default.09:59
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h3xischimaera, i think you have to set up users and passes in samba09:59
frogzoohagabaka: even if there are e17 pkgs, you'd want the latest09:59
holycowviolot, i'09:59
J-_chimaera: you do.09:59
h3xischimaera, there are specific commands that let you do this09:59
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chimaerah3xis: ok let me try that out09:59
violotholycow, ?09:59
holycowviolot, i'm not sure what the current status is for after edgy, but it doesn't include nvidia no ... you haveto still install that manually09:59
hagabakado they support build scripts that generate deb packages then?09:59
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hagabakas/support/provide10:00
violotI'm trying to figure out what gNewSense removes... :|10:00
spikebviolot: all binary-only firmware and drivers, restricted, and multiverse.10:00
holycowviolot, oh heh10:00
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|thunderanyone been able to get cairo-dock/gnome-dock to compile on edgy ?10:05
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holycowspikeb, do you know if they are just removing the non free stuff or making other modifications beyond say artwork?10:07
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spikebholycow: the default installation has a couple different packages, they removed launchpad integration, stripped teh kernel of binary-only bits in it...i think that's about it10:07
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Nameeaterwhere are the sound faders?10:08
Nameeaterfor mic/output etc10:08
holycowspikeb, thats neat, thanks10:08
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mwalkerhow can I install Creative X-Fi drivers?10:08
spikebyeah it is pretty neat, i hope they take off :)10:08
spikebi won't install it myself because i'm not convinced the project is going to last all that long.10:08
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holycowspikeb, i think the ubuntu approach is the right compromise10:09
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spikebholycow: generally speaking, i agree.10:09
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oemdoes ubuntu have a control panel where i can select my video card?10:10
spikebholycow: i do think that something like gnewsense is a valuable niche and resource though, so i hope they stick around and prosper.10:10
holycowoem, not yet10:10
holycowspikeb, funny, i agree with that10:10
holycowhehe10:10
mwalkeranyone have any luck installing Creative Sound Blaster drivers?10:10
oemhow do i select my video card then. the installer installed a vesa driver only10:11
spikebholycow: :)10:11
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holycowoem, what do you mean by select card? what? do you have two of them?10:11
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holycowoem, or do you mean install the driver ?10:11
h3xisoem, run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:11
dintis default gateway could be turn off??10:11
h3xisthen choose which driver to use10:11
h3xiswhen it asks you10:11
oemholycow. i mean when i installed it didnt allow me to select my video card,10:12
holycowoem, i still don't get it.  you have two vid cards?10:12
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h3xisholycow, his sys is using vesa at the moment10:12
holycowif so you need to change your /etc/x11/xorg.conf file to point to the right vid card10:12
h3xishe wants to use his native ones10:12
h3xisone*10:12
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holycowthey do the dpkg-reconfigure thing posted above10:13
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mobalhy!10:14
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mobalhi'10:14
mobalhow can i boot cd or dvd with grub?10:14
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mobalubuntu 6.0610:14
chimaerahow can i list the users in samba? can add and remove using smbpasswd but how to list/?10:14
holycowchimaera, what do you mean users in samba?10:14
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mwalkerhow can I install Creative SoundBlaster sound drivers?10:15
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Flannelmobal: once you're at grub, you're already booting off the HD, you need to tweak your BIOS10:15
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holycowsamba either lets you log onto windows networks as whatever you are logged in as, or it lets you log in to existing accounts on the linux host server10:15
mobalyes10:15
chimaeraholycow: i did smbpasswd -a username to add a user to samba.. how to i check all the users i've added?10:15
mobali do with bios but if i edit the grub menu.lst can i boot cd/dvd?10:15
spikebhmm10:16
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Flannelmobal: if you have a special CD, yes.10:16
spikebyou might be able to, i've never thought of that before.10:16
chimaeraholycow: or in other words, how to i check all the accounts that can access my samba share?10:16
Flannelmobal: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Making-a-GRUB-bootable-CD-ROM.html10:16
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mobalthx10:16
chimaeraholycow: i do not have /etc/samba/passwd10:16
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holycowchimaera, actually a good question ... i don't think i can answer that one without errors10:16
holycowi'll leave that for someone more familiar, i'll just get you going in circles on that10:17
spikebhaha10:17
spikebat least you can admit it10:17
chimaerahmm ok thnx.. also i accidentally deleted root user from samba10:17
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chimaerais there undo command in bash? like i deleted something and i wanna undo10:18
McMillanHmm... Now that I am finally online... LOL Know of anybody that was trying to get a Broadcom 4318 wireless card to work?10:18
Flannelchimaera: no10:19
chimaerak10:19
jpjacobschimaera, bash is think before you hit enter10:19
Flannelchimaera: that's why you don't run around as root in bash10:19
h3xisMcMillan, yes10:19
h3xisMcMillan, ndiswrapper10:19
chimaeraah ok10:19
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McMillanIt works to a point, but you can't use the driver packaged with Dapper. However, I do have a question that my local "expert" can't seem to answer for me.10:20
JairunCalothHey guys, I'm having trouble with my mic. I know it works, because I can get it to feedback through the speakers. But I can't use it for capture.10:20
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chimaerahow do i use natilus to copy a file to a location that require be to use su10:20
h3xisMcMillan, which is?10:20
oemholycow.ok i went through that configuration,,,now reboot?10:20
chimaerahow do i use natilus to copy a file to a location that require me to use sudo10:21
Flannelchimaera: in ubuntu, we don't use su, we use sudo.  but, to make a super user GUI application, use "gksudo", so "gksudo nautilus" (and be careful)10:21
McMillanCan I update to latest release using only the net and not needing to download/burn/re-install my version of ubuntu (xubuntu)10:21
holycowoem, either logout or restart gdm with sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart10:21
h3xisMcMillan, yes10:21
holycowall you need to do is get x server restarted to take up the new settings10:21
nuked_omenchimaera, i use sudo nautilus10:21
McMillanHold on, I want to take notes! LOL10:21
mwalkerhow can I find drivers for my Sound Card?10:21
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chimaerak thnx10:22
nuked_omenmwalker, try the manufacturer of the sound card10:22
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h3xisMcMillan, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and everytime you see "dapper" replace it with "edgy". then run sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade10:22
Flannel!upgrade | McMillan (use the console commands, update-manager had some problems with xubuntu, most likely fixed now, but..)10:22
ubotuMcMillan (use the console commands, update-manager had some problems with xubuntu, most likely fixed now, but..): For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes10:22
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mwalkerand if there are no drivers available from the manufacturer are there any generic sound card drivers?10:23
h3xismwalker, what kind of sound card do you have?10:23
Flannelnuked_omen: don't use sudo with a graphical app, use gksudo.10:23
nuked_omenmwalker, sometimes10:23
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mwalkerCreative SoundBlaster X-Fi Platinum10:23
nuked_omenFlannel, why no? i've been doing this long ago10:23
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RememberPOLIs there a way to give a symlink an Icon/Emblem? (Xfce)10:23
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FlannelRememberPOL: try asking in #xubuntu10:24
davidwinterhi all10:24
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Flannelnuked_omen: you can mess up some permissions, gksudo and sudo set up the environment differently.10:24
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davidwinterhas the kernel issue been resolved regarding Nvidia drivers? I was in here earlier in the week and there was a note at the top of the Ubuntu Forums about it.10:24
chimaerawats a nice program to work with .rar?10:24
RememberPOLFlannel: Thanks..10:24
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nuked_omenchimaera, rarfree i think was the name10:25
nuked_omenor unrar-free10:25
chimaeranic.. thanks10:25
spikebchimaera: file-roller will do it if you install unrar-free10:25
davidwinterthe problem I was having was after doing a kernel update I wasn't able to install the nvidia drivers because it was complaining I had the incorrect kernel10:25
nuked_omenchimaera, search for rar in synaptic10:25
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mwalkerhow can I solve this error "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found."10:27
mdasilvafun10:27
McMillanThanks, I'm sure this will help me greatly guys. Flannel, h3xis and ubotu. I'm glad you could give an answer right away, I am still somewhat new to the linux front. I'll tell you that I already like Linux better than Windows.10:27
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h3xisMcMillan, you say that now XD10:27
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Dorrinal@#$!10:28
McMillanIn fact, I've totally ditched my old dual-boot configuration for a straight linux setup on my lappy.10:28
spikebMcMillan: sweet10:28
holycowMcMillan, wow cool10:28
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p4p4wI've done the same, haha.10:28
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DorrinalYarr10:29
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DorrinalStill having USB problems10:30
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oemholycow,you suggestion worked sort of, i have more resolution now10:32
holycowoem, sweet10:33
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McMillanThanks again guys.10:33
holycowlast thing you need to have is the correct horizontal and vertical refresh rates for your monitor model and make10:33
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holycowfor that you typically haveto google it, once you put that in your xorg.conf file you need to restart x once again and you should have more resolution and refresh rates for your moni10:33
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oemi dont see that it recognises the nvidia card yet. common with these integrated solutions i suppose10:34
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holycowoem, there is going to be some work done on the ui end to get this stuff to be more accessible.  congrats on everything you did so far, thats awesome10:34
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un_operateur!nvidia10:34
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:34
wkerzendIs a promise fastrack card (tx2000) a good choice for a raid 1 under edgy? thanks in advance10:34
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oemubotu. do i need binary drivers? i am running edgy 64 bit version10:35
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holycow!raid10:35
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO10:35
un_operateur!chroot10:35
ubotuhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box10:35
holycowwkerzend, i ended up going with adaptec as they seem to have open sourced their drivers a way back10:35
davidwinterare there still issues with the kernel and nvidia drivers? there was a notice at the top of the ubuntu forums earlier this week?10:35
holycowthere are a few that are known to be very linux friendly, not certain if promise is one of them10:35
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oemso basically there is no great benefit in installing the 64 bit version?10:36
holycowoem, not really, very few application can truly utilize the benefits of 64 'bitness10:36
spikeboem: basically.10:36
holycowonly things like large db applications, animatione renderers, scientific apps etc. can really use it to its full benefit10:37
oemholycow are there downsides to having installed the 64 bit system?10:37
holycowoh wait , sorry! haha, i answered the wrong question10:37
holycowheh :)10:37
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holycowoem, not really just some apps and plugings not available on it10:37
Flanneloem: you have to jump through some hoops to get somethings to work (stuff we can't recompile because we have no source, like flash, etc)10:38
holycowright10:38
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oemso when i try to upgrade when the new distro comes out, it will automatically look for the 64 bit version, no?10:38
wkerzendholycow: interesting: adaptec isnt sold by one of the biggest distributors in germany! have you heard anything about promise?10:39
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holycowwkerzend, for some reasons it rings a bell but i cannot place any specific info about it10:39
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Flanneloem: it'll upgrade you to whatever your current install is.10:40
holycowwkerzend, adaptec does sell directly they might also help with finding distributors in germany10:40
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Imrdyhi all10:41
pegs-using-e17hi10:41
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afiefIs there a way to install Ubuntu through the internet instead of downloading the ISO?10:42
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holycowafief, only if you had already setup your own copy of the ubuntu repo locally, then installed it at boot via pix ... which would basically be pointless10:43
BlueEagleafief: Sadly there is not.10:43
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holycowubuntu doesn't have an install cd like debian that downloads everything after a basic in stall10:43
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un_operateurerrm, you can do a ubuntu network install -- sure10:43
aku_aku6353Hi all10:44
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un_operateur!netboot10:44
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues10:44
chimaerai have a problem copying files from winxp to my linux box running samba... i've done smbpasswd -a username and i can connect to my share but i cant add files to it! help!10:44
reverseblade!hi | aku_aku10:44
ubotuaku_aku: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!10:44
afiefHolyCow, BlueEagle: well, my laptop CD drive is fried and what's installed right now still has glitches because of the corrupted drive, is there a way to install any distro through the net/lan?10:44
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hmmzhi all10:45
un_operateurafief,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot10:45
aku_akuI have one idea..   is there people to hear what I can say?10:45
Erb_How do I MPlayer my default video player in Firefox?10:45
reversebladeaku_aku, no10:45
chimaerai have a problem copying files from winxp to my linux box running samba... i've done smbpasswd -a username and i can connect to my share but i cant add files to it! help!10:45
un_operateurErb_, you make sure it is the only multimedia extension for firefox10:46
reversebladechimaera, what user password do you use ?10:46
aku_akuok..  then where?10:46
afiefun_operateur: thanks, that looks like it is exactly what i need10:46
reversebladechimaera, do you have samba server installed, or you are using built in samba support10:46
Flannelholycow: yes, it does.  You want the "mini" ISO: help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD10:46
un_operateurafief, yw10:46
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chimaerai did apt-get install samba. my user password is the one i set using smbpasswd10:46
holycowFlannel, oh really10:47
holycowneat i didn't know that10:47
reversebladeaku_aku, be a great kernel hacker, and everyone listens to you, other than that, talking is pointless10:47
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aku_akumy idea not about kernel hacking :)))10:47
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reversebladeaku_aku, ok tell it, I will give you this honor. I am listening to you10:48
holycowaku_aku, what reverseblade says is true frankly10:48
reversebladehehe10:48
holycowbut go ahead10:48
aku_aku;))10:48
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chimaerareverseblade: i did apt-get install samba. my user password is the one i set using smbpasswd10:49
aku_akuok..   idea is very simple..   and it's really intresting for my how you understand this10:49
reversebladeaku_aku, you have 30 sn left. After that I am not listening to you10:50
aku_akuidea == To present source code not as plain text, but in more complex binary format10:50
holycowreverseblade, lol10:50
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holycowwe already have that ... guess what its called ... compiled binaries!10:50
holycowtadaa!10:50
aku_akulike it is in the modern word processors ;)10:50
holycow-_-10:50
reversebladeaku_aku, lol  they are doing it for 30 years. Sorry you are too late10:51
holycowaku_aku, i don't get it ... with is a more complex binary format?10:51
aku_akuas you want :)))10:51
reversebladeaku_aku, what benefit will this idea bring ?10:51
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aku_akumany benefits..  if you think a little or give my more type to explaine ;)10:52
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holycowaku_aku, what is a more complex binary however?10:52
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reversebladeaku_aku, ok you have 1 more minute10:52
Flannelaku_aku: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, that's the place for general chit chat10:52
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aku_akunot binary..    source code in XML format (for example)  $)10:53
holycowaku_aku, thats stupid10:53
holycowlol :)10:53
reversebladeaku_aku, Flannel has a point. Frankly, other than the joke, if you have an idea, feel free to present it. But present it...10:53
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reversebladefully!10:54
aku_akuI mo like to use bXML..   but for first stage ordinary XML will be ok10:54
oemi made a booboo10:54
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holycowunderstanding source code and writing good code alone is hard enough ... wrapping it in xml formatting is like the worst idea i've ever heard10:54
reversebladeaku_aku, develop a project, and see if it holds then10:54
reversebladeholycow, there are examples like XAML10:55
reversebladeHTML10:55
oemi just copied and pasted code from the wiki and it was for breezy....is that going to affect my system, im running edgy10:55
holycowaku_aku, tho my opinion shouldn't prevent you from starting up a project10:55
Flanneloem: depends on what you copied and pasted10:55
holycowreverseblade, terrible exapmle10:55
reversebladeok10:55
holycowthats not 'code' thats just the presentation layer described in an xml format10:55
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holycowwhich is perfectly suited for xml anyway10:55
reversebladeholycow, XAML is the source code10:56
oemthe bootstrap thing10:56
racarrDoes anyone have a guide for setting up xinerama with intel cards?10:56
holycowxaml is not source from what i've read .. xaml is just the descriptoin language for the ui10:56
racarrOr just xinerama in general? I know nothing about it...10:56
Flannel!xinerama | racarr10:56
uboturacarr: xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo10:56
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holycowthe logic is in whatever .net language you choose10:56
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racarrFlannel: Ok thanks10:57
reversebladeholycow, read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XAML,10:57
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Flannelguys, please take the *ML and stuff discussions to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.10:58
aku_akuholycow:  I think I start such project before or later10:58
user-deployhaving hard time with integratedmemory stealin intel845g10:58
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holycowreverseblade,10:58
holycowright10:58
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holycowexactly what i said10:58
holycowits similar to xul10:58
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reversebladeholycow, ok10:58
user-deployflash on firefox crashing  firefox10:58
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reversebladeholycow, I have no desire to argue with you10:58
holycowlol10:59
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oemholycow do i need to undo/reverse an installation that i just made?10:59
raghu206i formated my system drive having windows and again installed windows but the drive doesnt appear in ubuntu pls help :(10:59
holycowreverseblade, msg me when you see the first add asking for 'xaml programmers'10:59
aku_akuI hear..    I go to #ubuntu-offtopic  ;)10:59
holycowthat i would like to see10:59
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holycowoem, what kind of installation? not sure what that refers to.  a whole os, a package ... ?11:00
oemthe bootstap operation11:00
user-deploy3d and flash on i845g extreme ??11:00
oemfor 64 bit system11:00
holycowraghu206, do sudo fdisk -l that will tell you info about all partitions on your system11:00
holycowraghu206, you may haveto manually mount the partition to get access to it11:01
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holycowoem, i don't know anything about bootstrap functionality, never had to interface with that ... sorry.11:01
oemok thanks11:01
raghu206holycow, how to do this in FSTAB11:01
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momalHey Im connected through ssh on my friends linux box. How can I make a program start up under his user account and load up on his screen ?11:01
hmmzcould someone please give me a hand? I can ping servers from thew terminal but i cant connect to the majority of sites using FF or lynx in the terminal11:02
oemnow since i havent rebooted theoretically this whole thing hasnt installed yet11:02
nuked_omenraghu206, mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda111:02
holycowwhat he said or google it.  fstab is well documented with lots of examples11:02
jpjacobsmomal, Xforwarding. you have to use ssh -Y or -X instead of ssh11:02
raghu206nuked_omen, i need uuid of that partition11:02
hmmzso i have no idea whats wrong11:02
nuked_omenraghu206, put this line in fstab11:02
reverseblademomal, you cant11:02
nuked_omen/dev/hda1       /media/hda1   ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       111:02
oemdo you know of any online classes or user groups would recommend for total newbies like me11:03
reverseblademomal, you have to transfer the output from one screen to another, which is theoretically possible but dunno how11:03
nuked_omenraghu206, fdisk -l will tell you that11:03
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holycow!certification11:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about certification - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:04
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hmmzanyone? please im compleatly stumped as to whats wrong11:04
raghu206nuked_omen, i cant find that UUID in fdisk -l11:04
holycow*hmm* oem not offhand, one can get a certificaqtion as an ubuntu specialist now i read ... maybe some schools offer that training online which would cover all that kind of thing really thoroughly11:04
Flanneloem: #ubuntu-classroom has a series of lessons, well, they have them occassionally (every second saturday?), but you can read their old logs.11:04
raghu206!uuid11:05
ubotuTo see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid" (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)11:05
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Flannel!classroom | oem11:05
ubotuoem: The Ubuntu Classroom is a project which aims to tutor users about Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu through biweekly sessions in #ubuntu-classroom - For more information visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom11:05
oemflannel super, thanks11:05
oem!classroom11:05
ubotuThe Ubuntu Classroom is a project which aims to tutor users about Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu through biweekly sessions in #ubuntu-classroom - For more information visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom11:05
jpjacobsmomal, that is, if you are on linux, using X. if you're working on windows i recommend putty+xming11:05
holycowFlannel, interesting i didn't know about that channel11:05
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holycowthats cool11:05
Spaghetti_KnifeQuick, what's your favorite pdf viewer?11:06
jpjacobsxpdf11:06
jpjacobshehe11:06
spikebevince11:06
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Spaghetti_KnifeThanks!11:06
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hmmzahh, still not working11:07
raghu206holycow, what abt UUID11:07
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hmmzI can connect to about 4 websites out of about 20 that i have tried11:07
holycowraghu206, i am not sure what your question mean, what about it?11:07
hmmzi have no idea why but it just times out on all the others11:07
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jpjacobshmmz, maybe someone playing with a router in your network?11:07
OkinawaInstructocan someone help me set up a printer... Lexmark X12511:07
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Spaghetti_KnifeThanks.11:08
hmmzthere is no network to speak and the router is next to me11:08
hmmz:P11:08
jpjacobs:)11:08
raghu206holycow, in fstab file see there is UUId for every partiiton i need to edit that bcz the drive shud appear which i have formated in windows11:08
hmmzi just got the router working on ubuntu11:08
hmmztook all day :(11:08
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holycowraghu206, you can't write to ntfs, just read it11:09
holycowinput the fstab line as the other dude told you11:09
jpjacobshmmz, perhaps something wrong with your iptables config11:09
Juhazunless you use ntfs-3g11:09
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holycowyou will only be able to read it11:09
max_does anyone have Kiba Dock running?11:09
frogzoo!ntfs-3g11:09
ubotuntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)11:09
hmmznow the only sites i can get wirking are firefox addons one, mozilla.org, getfirefox.com and thats bout it11:09
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hmmznope, im a compleat linux newbie but im pritty sure im not using that11:10
hmmzim using e... sometihng.11:10
hmmzfor the file system11:10
momalwell Im under linux my self... I don't want to see his screen just start up programs for him.. without him loosing his screen11:10
holycowraghu206, and it will appear on next boot.  you need to make SURE you have a folder created at your mount point as well, and you can do a mount /media/mountpoint from command line without rebooting to get the drive to mount AFTER you have the correct fstab line in there11:10
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holycowraghu206, that is kinda the two or three things you need to setup to get it to work11:10
hmmzand im on Ubuntu 6.06, btw11:11
jpjacobsmomal.. isee.. maybe vnc is the solution you seek. have him activate remote desktop, and then you can fire up apps for him11:11
momaltoo slow net for that11:11
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jpjacobsnx?11:11
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raghu206holycow, but the drive doesnt appear as i click on MY Computer .The method u told just mounts the disk on to the specified folder11:12
holycowraghu206, no it wont appear in my computer ... it will appear as a folder at your mount poitn11:12
jpjacobserrr... ssh in do export DISPLAY="localhost:0" and then nohup <program> >dev/null&11:13
holycowin the line that dude gave you its probably something like /media/mountfolder11:13
raghu206holycow, in order to make it visible u need edit UUId11:13
holycowjust go there and open it up11:13
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raghu206holycow, did u get me ?11:14
holycowraghu206, i can't give you the details on how that works, i haven't memorized every nuanced behaviour of gnome/nautilus.  i'm just hoping to poitn you in the general direction of getting the drive opened so you can browse it11:14
fuocoi have this problem, i use r300 driver. glxgears gives me nice results 1600-2000 fps. but when  i try a 3d app like ppracer i get about 2-3fps. flightgear is unusable and uses 100% cpu. when i try ppracer it also happens that while racing suddenly i do get accelleration and 30-40 fps for a few moments, up to a minute maybe, and then it goes back to 3fps. anyone knows what could be wrong?11:14
holycowmaking it show up in your nautilus window is really not something i want to help with, that you haveto look up in the man pages11:14
GirlRiverI am using VLC 0.8.6 on Ubunty edgy to transcode DVD to MP4V and MP4A  but It seems to fail finding AAC codec. Can anyone help please ?11:15
raghu206holycow, when u set ubuntu u have ur parted drives appear on ur desktop11:15
hmmzok the problem is my dsn is screwed11:15
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brainiac_ghostdoes anyone know if it is possible to read JFS partitions in windows?11:15
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e5150no11:16
holycowraghu206, i just create a shortcut to them i don't bother with what you are trying to do.  also i don't put extra drives on the ide chain, i mount themn via usb cradles and THOSE appeare automagically on the desktop yes11:16
reversebladehmmz, dsn ?11:16
brainiac_ghoste5150: hmm, theoretically i guess i could make a thing to do it, but i can't be bothered :P11:16
brainiac_ghoste5150: thing being dll11:17
holycowanything on the ide chain is part of the system, and if its an extra drive i set it up once and forget about it as its a system level resource not necessearily a removanble media type of device ... at least thats how i treat it11:17
holycowi hope that makes some sense :)11:17
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Gacomenthola11:17
reverseblade!hi | Gacoment11:17
ubotuGacoment: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!11:17
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Gacomentragazzi esiste un tool grafico che ti modifica udev?11:17
hmmzi tried "telnet google.com 80" in terminal and it said soemetihng like "trying 1.0.0.0"11:18
reverseblade!esp |Gacoment11:18
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GreyGhost-Ubuntu!fr | Gacoment11:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about esp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:18
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ubotuGacoment: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.11:18
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Gacomentcosa?11:18
reversebladeoh11:18
julien#ubuntu-fr-classroom11:18
brainiac_ghostGacoment: italian11:18
reverseblade!sp | Gacoment11:18
Gacoment:O11:18
GreyGhost-Ubuntu] hmmm...that was not french ?11:18
ubotusp: James Clark's SGML parsing tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.4-1.2.1-47 (edgy), package size 158 kB, installed size 564 kB11:18
brainiac_ghost!it | Gacoment11:18
ubotuGacoment: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!11:18
reversebladelol11:18
nuked_omen!life11:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about life - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:18
raghu206!uuid11:18
ubotuTo see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid" (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)11:18
Gacomentyes thanks11:18
GacomentXD11:18
jpjacobshmmz, i used the gentoo home-router-howto to make a script that anables routing from one interface to another. if you pm me your email, i'll mail it to you11:18
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brainiac_ghostnuked_omen: sorry, none of us have any life here11:18
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brainiac_ghost!jfs11:19
jpjacobsenables*11:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:19
nuked_omenbrainiac_ghost, not even the ubotu dude11:19
brainiac_ghostbridou: nope :(11:19
glynHey, how do I get the codecs working on Totem so I can watch videos?11:19
brainiac_ghost*nuked_omen: nope11:19
nuked_omenwe have no life, that's why we're talking to a bot11:19
brainiac_ghost!mp311:19
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:19
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brainiac_ghost!mp3 | glyn11:20
ubotuglyn: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:20
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brainiac_ghostglyn: that page :)11:20
glynthanks11:20
reverseblade!factoid11:20
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots11:20
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encodedGreyGhost-Ubuntu, don't worry, im insane11:20
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GreyGhost-Ubuntulol that was quick .... ;)11:21
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galorinHey yall, I've got a 6.10 box hat's loading a kernel driver for my remote, but I want it to load the lirc driver.  How do I blacklist kernel modules in ubuntu?11:22
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glynhow do I get packages from the terminal?11:22
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encodedGreyGhost-Ubuntu, ok11:22
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brainiac_ghostglyn: sudo apt-get install blah blah11:22
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glynthanks11:22
GreyGhost-Ubuntuglyn ,apt-get install11:22
glynthought that might be it but wasn't sure11:22
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brainiac_ghostGreyGhost-Ubuntu: remember the sudo11:23
GreyGhost-Ubuntu!apt | glyn11:23
ubotuglyn: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)11:23
brainiac_ghostGreyGhost-Ubuntu: mind you /me sets a root password :)11:23
brainiac_ghost!dpkg11:23
ubotudpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.11:23
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GreyGhost-Ubunturainiac_ghost ,hehe yes ... sudo too :)11:23
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brainiac_ghostGreyGhost-Ubuntu: brainiac_ghost ty :P11:23
brainiac_ghostGreyGhost-Ubuntu: tab completion FTW11:23
glynhmm it can't find the package gstreamer0.10--fmpeg11:24
glyn*-ffmpeg11:24
brainiac_ghostglyn: sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list11:24
brainiac_ghostglyn: add universe, multiverse and backports11:24
brainiac_ghostglyn: :)11:24
GreyGhost-Ubuntubrainiac_ghost ,sorry bout that ....11:24
brainiac_ghostGreyGhost-Ubuntu: no problem :)11:24
glynI thought I did on the repositories11:24
glynwhere do I put them?11:25
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un_operateur!repositories11:25
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource11:25
un_operateurglyn, ^^11:25
GreyGhost-Ubuntuglyn , http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories i find that unbelievably helpful ...11:25
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glynI have Hoary not edgy11:27
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glynI would just add them again in the synaptic but I have terminals running11:27
un_operateurglyn, in most cases its safe to replace every edgy with hoary11:27
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GreyGhost-UbuntuHoary ? i missed a release i velieve then....11:27
niekieGreyGhost-Ubuntu, it's before Breezy.11:28
GreyGhost-Ubuntuniekie , ahh k ..11:28
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niekieIt is no longer supported.11:28
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niekieIt is 5.0411:29
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niekieDapper will be supported until June 2009 (June 2011 for servers)11:30
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GreyGhost-Ubuntuoh ... then i obviuosly didn;t know bout it... at that time i was trying to get FC to become user friendly for a noob like muself....11:30
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x64_dudeCan anyone help me with installing the nvidia driver for AMD64 ubuntu?11:30
glynso I can use the edgy repositories for Hoary?11:30
un_operateur!nvidia | x64_dude11:31
ubotux64_dude: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:31
niekieglyn, eh, I don't think so.11:31
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glyncould someone give me a link to the hoary repositories?  heh11:31
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niekieI'm not that knowledgeable though, so ask a seocnd opinion, haha.11:31
GreyGhost-Ubuntuglyn , i think he meant replace the word Edgy with Hoary11:31
glynoh11:31
niekie*second11:31
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un_operateurglyn, just replace every instance of the work edgy with hoary11:31
x64_dudeun_operateur: it dont work right in AMD64 version11:31
un_operateurx64_dude, ahh -- sorry11:31
x64_dudeun_operateur: "Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed11:31
x64_dudethe nvidia driver for your running kernel."11:31
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un_operateurx64_dude, I dont think there are 64 bit drivers for ati/nvidia at the moment11:32
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x64_dudeun_operateur: sure there is11:32
un_operateurx64_dude, for linux i.e.11:32
x64_dudeubuntu for some reason will not modprobe nvidia driver x64 driver11:33
glynadded the repositories, and I stil can't get gstreamer11:34
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glyn*still11:34
un_operateurglyn, you need to update apt first -- run this -- sudo aptitude update11:34
pegs-using-e17on the topic of ati driver install.. i have used this guide before http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Installation_Guide11:34
glynI did11:34
glynW: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_universe_binary-i386_Packages)11:35
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un_operateurglyn, it means you have two enries in sources.list pointing to the same location11:35
brainiac_ghostscrollkeeper gets on my nerves11:35
un_operateurglyn, hold up11:36
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un_operateurglyn -- this is exactly what your sources.list should look like -- http://pastebin.ca/28968711:37
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glynwith or without the numbers?11:38
user_deployment\o11:39
glynthanks11:39
un_operateurglyn, numbers??11:39
glynyeah there were numbers on every line on the post11:39
un_operateurglyn, you mean the line numbers on the left?? no no, they shouldnt be included11:40
reversebladeHow can I be a jedi ?11:40
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zircxdoes anyone know whether linux has a bbcode editor / generator that would be similar to "Pawsoft FASS" in windows?11:41
zircxer ubuntu11:41
glynhmm added those exactly and it still can't find gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg11:41
abhinayanybody has problem with the mplayer ? i am getting fatal error: Mplayer interrupted by signal 11 : decode_video , mplayer crashed by bad usage of cpu/fpu/ram11:41
un_operateurglyn, did you update apt afterwards?11:41
glynyeah11:41
glynE: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg11:42
un_operateurglyn, I just searched http://packages.ubuntu.com for gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg -- it seems it is not included on hoary11:42
glynheh what can I do to get video working then?11:43
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un_operateurglyn, one sec11:43
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un_operateurglyn, here http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/g/gst-ffmpeg/gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg_0.8.7-7ubuntu1_i386.deb11:45
glynthanks11:45
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Stormx2!info gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg11:49
ubotugstreamer0.10-ffmpeg: FFmpeg plugin for GStreamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.1-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1325 kB, installed size 3208 kB11:49
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Stormx2So clearly you need to enable universe xD11:49
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Toma-how long should it take to copy 4.7 GB DVD to a hdd? 7200rpm11:49
un_operateurStormx2, he's on hoary :)11:50
user_deploymentneed gl 3d for intel845g extreme integrated11:50
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user_deployment!gl11:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:50
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un_operateur!xgl11:50
user_deployment!opengl11:50
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems11:50
wsjunioris it possible to run gnash with ubuntu edgy?11:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:50
spikebwsjunior: yes11:50
nuked_omenxgl got nothing to do with the gl driver11:50
spikebwsjunior: it's in edgy-backports11:51
wsjunioris there any howto for this?11:51
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nuked_omenwsjunior, yes, type gnash in synaptic, click the package and click apply11:51
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spikebwsjunior: in the system menu, under administration, select software sources.11:51
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spikebwsjunior: in that window, click on the internet updates tab, and make sure backported updates is checked.11:52
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spikebwsjunior: after that, you will be able to install gnash (and other stuff) from the backports repo :)11:52
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sltgroovemind u a Q: what r the backports ?11:52
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user_deploymentstill in ubuntu generic11:53
un_operateur!backports11:53
ubotuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports11:53
wsjuniorspikeb: thank u so much, gonna try right now!11:53
sltgroovethx11:53
spikebwsjunior: you bet. if you encounter any problems, holler at me11:53
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daddy-ohow do i get my audio to work? i have ubuntu 5.10 but i cant get any of my cds to play11:55
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wsjuniorspikeb: it worked! thank u again! :)11:56
wsjuniorbye11:56
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daddy-ohello11:57
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daddy-oanyone there?11:57
spikebyo, daddy-o11:57
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daddy-ohay11:57
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daddy-oim trying to get sound playback to no avail11:57
spikebhmm11:58
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spikebi've _never_ had sound issues under linux.11:58
daddy-oi just installed ubuntu 5.1011:58
user_deployment2.6.17-10-generic now how to advance from here ?11:58
spikebnot once since i started11:58
spikebheh11:58
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monicaonehello11:58
spikebso i'm afraid i'm completely useless to ya on this one daddy-o11:58
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daddy-othats cool11:58
Toma-daddy-o: you mean 6.10?11:58
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daddy-oi dont even understand linux at all11:59
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Toma-daddy-o: its going to be something incredibly simple that solves the problem (i hope)11:59
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rosen37Hi11:59
frogzoo!docs | daddy-o11:59
ubotudaddy-o: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com11:59
daddy-onope im runnin 5.10 with updates toma11:59
daddy-othanx12:00
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daddy-oubotu12:00
rosen37is someone do backup on his server, and what is his solution? I m hosting a webserver and I m searching solution to backup data ?12:00
spikebhmm12:00
frogzoo!backup12:01
ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning12:01
un_operateurrosen37, amanda / bacula12:01
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arnorhello World!12:01
GreyGhost-Ubuntu!hi | arnor12:02
ubotuarnor: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!12:02
un_operateurcapitalize the H -- Hello World! :)12:02
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spikebhey arnor12:02
arnorwhat's up guys?12:02
arnor;)12:02
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arnorcould someone say me what are the major differences between Ubuntu 6.06 and 6.10?12:03
spikebarnor: sure12:04
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spikebarnor: 6.10 has newer versions of almost every package, and a much shorter support lifetime.12:04
nuked_omenthe numbers12:04
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arnor"support lifetime" ?12:04
un_operateurarnor, one's called "dapper drake" and another's called "Edgy Eft"12:04
arnornuked_omen: thx ;)12:04
spikebarnor: how long it will get updates.12:04
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arnorun_operateur: merci. lol :)12:04
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arnorI'm using by now Ubuntu 6.06 "Dapper..."12:05
un_operateurarnor, it's like asking what the difference between windows XP and windows Vista are12:05
teclo-Hello, how can I ask acidrip to rip only a few minutes from a DVD ?12:05
spikebun_operateur: edgy doesn't suck :(12:05
arnorand I'd like to know if I can want for Ubuntu 7.x to upgrade my system12:05
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un_operateuror in your speak -- the difference between windows NT 5.1 and NT 5.212:05
un_operateurspikeb, I didnt say it did, did i?12:06
nuked_omenwhy does vista suck?12:06
sltgrooveXP is crap, Vista much worse- when win- 2K12:06
arnorun_operateur: ok12:06
spikebun_operateur: in a roundabout way, yes.12:06
spikebun_operateur: you said it was the vista of ubuntu releases :P12:06
nuked_omenpeople who use XP will have to eventually use vista12:07
un_operateurspikeb, I'm quite positive i didnt make such a corollary  :)12:07
nuked_omenwhether they like it or not12:07
sltgroovehehehe12:07
spikebarg12:07
spikebun_operateur: darn you, let me smear your efforts!12:07
spikebheh12:07
un_operateurspikeb, I can tell you tho -- i didnt use Edgy for too long -- so i cant really comment about it12:07
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spikebhehe un_operateur, did you move back to dapper or forward to feisty?12:08
sltgrooveme dare not to say- in da mom on OS X 10.3.9- but using ubuntu and ( argh.. don't trow anything on me... ) SuSe 10.212:08
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un_operateurspikeb, I dunno if i could call it feisty -- I use quite a few debian etch packages and some edgy ones too12:09
spikebhehe12:09
spikebun_operateur: ahh ok12:09
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spikebun_operateur: so you use something that could be called "begging for trouble" :P12:09
un_operateurspikeb, or "aching to be different" :)12:09
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koregaonparkHello. I pulled the power plug of my Ubuntu machine and now it won't start up anymore.12:09
un_operateurkoregaonpark, that wasnt a very clever thing to do was it?12:10
koregaonparkwell, no, un_operator12:10
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un_operateurkoregaonpark, can you boot up into single user/recovery mode?12:10
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koregaonparkI can boot into root.12:10
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koregaonparkIt takes me to the command prompt and I type in startx12:11
koregaonparki think there's something wrong with the bootloader.12:11
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koregaonparkokay, now i managed to boot into my user account12:11
un_operateurkoregaonpark, so what happens after startx ?12:12
koregaonparki typed in 'login', logged in, hit sudo startx12:12
koregaonparkuh, now that it's booted up12:12
koregaonparki see an error, un_operator12:12
dj_baggio!aids12:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about aids - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:12
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dj_baggio(:12:12
koregaonparkPOWER MANAGER: this program cannot start until you start the dbus system service.12:12
llama32is there a way to force apt-get to ignore all dependencies? [i know it's unsafe, but i'm only installing devel packages full of headers, that have ~ 15mb of un-needed dependancies >:(] 12:12
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un_operateurkoregaonpark, hmm - ok -- sudo bash   first12:13
koregaonparkThe error message contd.: it is strongly recommended you reboot your computer after starting messagebus12:13
un_operateurkoregaonpark, then -- /etc/init.d/dbus start12:13
koregaonparkokay, in terminal?12:13
un_operateuryes12:13
un_operateurkoregaonpark, then -- /etc/init.d/gdm start12:14
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un_operateurkoregaonpark, then press CTRL+ALT+F712:14
grazie_Any Opera users online getting quite frequent lock ups? (sorry if this is duplicated - having network problems too)12:14
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koregaonparkstep 1 done.12:14
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un_operateurgrazie_, if you are having network problems -- opera is going to inherit them to, no? :)12:15
un_operateurgrazie_, what kind of network problems?12:15
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sltgrooverotten cables :P12:16
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koregaonparkun_operator, it has pulled me out of xwindow... "there already appears to be an xserver running on display :0. should another display number by tried?"12:16
grazie_un_operateur : not getting boths problems at the same time.12:16
grazie_un_operateur : network is due to ISP12:16
un_operateurkoregaonpark, after which command did that error happen??12:16
koregaonparksecond /etc/12:16
kd7swhHow do I get aac encoding support in ffmpeg?12:17
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_Jack_Daniels_Hello12:17
un_operateurkoregaonpark, change that to  -- /etc/init.d/gdm force-reload12:17
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koregaonparkun_operator, should i choose yes or no at this dialog12:17
kd7swhit says Unknown codec 'aac' even though I have faac and faad installed12:17
un_operateurkoregaonpark, sorry -- no12:18
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koregaonparkok12:18
robbAnyone have xinerama working on an i945?12:18
koregaonparknow ill run the force command12:18
koregaonparkun12:18
mojojojo_hi there.  I'm trying to connect throough USB modem (SpeedTouch Thomson) to ADSL. I followed instructions and now I get "LCP: connection terminated by peer" and nothing else :(... Can you help me?12:18
koregaonparkun_operator, it keeps taking me back to that screen!12:18
koregaonparkthe blue screen...12:18
kd7swhHow do I get aac encoding support in ffmpeg?12:18
_Jack_Daniels_I'm new to ubuntu, i've always used Slackware, and i'm wondering where is the script ip_forward that, in slackware, is under "/etc/rc.d/rc.ip_forward"12:19
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un_operateur_Jack_Daniels_, you'll need to make one yourself or modify  /etc/sysctl.conf12:19
un_operateurkoregaonpark, what does the blue screen say?12:20
_Jack_Daniels_ok thank you12:20
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koregaonparkun_operator, the same message... should a new display no. be chosen.12:20
koregaonparkun_operator, it tried 6 times then gae up12:20
koregaonparkgave*12:20
koregaonparkun_operator, i ran your force reload command but it's brough me back to that same screen12:21
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un_operateurkoregaonpark, how does this combo fare -- /etc/init.d/gdm stop; /etc/init.d/gdm start;12:21
siouxhi ubuntus12:21
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GreyGhost-Ubuntu!xine12:21
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:21
GreyGhost-Ubuntu!gstreamer12:22
koregaonparkun_operator, it's not giving me enough time to type that, it keeps taking me back to the blue screen12:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gstreamer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:22
GreyGhost-Ubuntuhmm......12:22
mauricekhow can I play video on ubuntu12:22
siouxI opened a bug on launchpad do y know if there is a irc about it?12:22
GreyGhost-Ubuntumauricek ,get the plugins for totem i think ...12:22
koregaonparkun_operator, i chose yes by mistake12:22
GreyGhost-Ubuntu!mp3 | mauricek12:23
ubotumauricek: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:23
un_operateurkoregaonpark, press CTRL+ALT+F1  -- it shouldnt bother you there12:23
koregaonparkit took me to the ubuntu login screen12:23
mauricekit does not work for me12:23
koregaonparki chose restart tehre12:23
koregaonparkthere*12:23
mauricekthx12:23
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un_operateurkoregaonpark, you saying it has worked then?12:23
koregaonparkit's rebooting, un_operator12:24
koregaonparkdamn, no, back at the prompt12:24
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koregaonparkun_operator, starting xwindow12:24
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koregaonparkback to the same gnome screen12:24
un_operateurgnome screen?12:24
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gizimWhere does Ubuntu store the Crontab logs?12:25
un_operateurgizim, errm, that depends -- root's cron jobs or user's cron jobs?12:25
gizimroot12:25
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un_operateurgizim, /var/log/auth.log i think12:25
gizimThanks12:25
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mojojojo_hi there.  I'm trying to connect throough USB modem (SpeedTouch Thomson) to ADSL. I followed instructions and now I get "LCP: connection terminated by peer" and nothing else :(... Can you help me?12:26
siouxhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu do you know if there is a irc channel to discuss these bugs?12:26
arnormojojojo_: I've tried 3 or 4 years ago with Knoppix and another distros12:26
arnormojojojo_: drop your USB modem. Buy an ethernet one12:27
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arnorlife is beautiful with ethernet modems12:27
koregaonparkun_operator, what shall i do now?12:27
un_operateurmojojojo_, it might mean that a setting is incorrect -- recheck the configuration12:27
Tron`don't know12:27
koregaonparkun_operator, i'm back in gnome12:27
mojojojo_arnor :D :D, no chance, I need connection right now :),12:27
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un_operateurkoregaonpark, if you are in gnome it means everything worked12:27
un_operateurkoregaonpark, do you mean the terminal instead?12:28
koregaonparkun_operator, ubuntu still won't boot up12:28
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koregaonparkun_operator, it took me to the command line and i manually typed in startx12:28
koregaonparkun_operator, i am now in the root account12:28
Seveasarnor, ;)12:28
mojojojo_un_operateur yeah, but to tell the trutch I copied ready configuration (which is supposed 100% correct).12:28
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un_operateurkoregaonpark, please try and keep messages together so we can keep track of context -- dont split them over lines12:29
HeathenDanhow do i remove read-only status for several files?12:29
rausb0usb modems mostly use undocumented proprietary protocols. dont use them.12:29
koregaonparkun_operator, affirmative12:29
un_operateurkoregaonpark, did you startx or sudo startx ?12:29
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koregaonparkun_operator, startx12:29
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koregaonparkun_operator, from root@desktop:12:30
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rausb0un_operateur: startx should be enough since the X wrapper is suid root12:30
un_operateurkoregaonpark, and after startx, it took you to the desktop ??12:30
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koregaonparkun_operator, it has taken me to the root desktop. i see an error message on screen12:30
un_operateurkoregaonpark, you dont need to startx as root -- just do it under your shell12:31
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un_operateurkoregaonpark, well duhh.. you startx as root, where do you expect the desktop to take you :)12:31
koregaonparkun_operator, i have no choice, when i boot up the computer i am taken to root@desktop.12:31
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rausb0koregaonpark: you shouldnt have log in as root on the text console. log in as normal user, then startx.12:31
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koregaonparkrausb0, i'll just reboot12:32
un_operateurkoregaonpark, ehh -- it should do that12:32
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un_operateurkoregaonpark, shouldnt **12:32
rausb0koregaonpark: you get a root shell on reboot? without asking for password?12:32
midgetg0atAnyone notice a problem in Edgy - Gnome where if you add a launcher to a panel, and then try to move it, it looses 100% of the launcher information?12:32
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koregaonparkrausb0, yes that is correect12:32
midgetg0ati'ts done it to me EVERY TIME i try to position it after i add it to panel12:32
rausb0koregaonpark: i'd say your system is pretty f*cked up12:32
koregaonparkrausb0, i did nothing but shut down my computer manually!12:33
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rausb0koregaonpark: which ubuntu version, from which media did you install?12:33
un_operateurkoregaonpark, you said you pulled the plug from under it  :)12:33
Seveasbad move :)12:34
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koregaonparkrausb0, this is 6.06 from cd12:34
koregaonparkun_operator, isn't that a manual shut down?12:34
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un_operateurkoregaonpark, lol no12:34
koregaonparkun_operator, i've done this windows and os x12:34
un_operateurkoregaonpark, thats called bad-operational-tendency-syndrome :)12:34
un_operateurkoregaonpark, linux is not windows or apple eh12:35
rausb0koregaonpark: pulling the plug can hardly be called a "manual shutdown"12:35
koregaonparkrausb0, un_operator, so I just gotta format and install?12:35
un_operateurkoregaonpark, even with windows/apple -- you should never do that -- you risk losing/corrupting data -- and as you have seen it happen, the risk it high12:35
koregaonparkun_operator, i don't usually, but my computer was on for a day and i didn't have a monitor to spare to shut it down with.12:36
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un_operateurkoregaonpark, well, we gotta find out what is failing and whats dropping you into the root prompt -- hopefully if we correct that, it ought to be ok12:36
rausb0koregaonpark: i bet it says something like you have to check the file system manually when booting, then dropping you to a root shell, right?12:36
koregaonparkrausb0, it says exactly that!12:37
rausb0koregaonpark: alright, your filesystem is damaged12:37
koregaonparkit says try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock12:37
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rausb0koregaonpark: if it even doesnt find the superblock, its more damaged that i thought12:38
koregaonparkrausb0, well, i guess i'm done then12:38
rausb0koregaonpark: btw, why didnt you tell us this message earlier?12:38
koregaonparkrausb0, because i was able to boot into gnome12:39
koregaonparkrausb0, i can still access my data.12:39
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rausb0koregaonpark: under linux, you should read error messages, understand them and _take them seriously_12:39
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rausb0koregaonpark: messages are there for a purpose12:39
koregaonparkrausb0, yes sir.12:40
koregaonparkrausb0, i'm new to this.12:40
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rausb0koregaonpark: that why i am telling you12:40
koregaonparkbut seriously, how come this has never happened to my windows or os x installs?12:41
rausb0koregaonpark: so reboot and stay on the root shell in text mode12:41
koregaonparkis linux more volatile?12:41
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samu2WOW, I should have installed the nvidia drivers a long time ago. The screen savers are a hundred times smoother now.12:41
koregaonparkrausb0, what?12:41
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mauricekI can't download the correct format for mediaplayers::: Help me12:41
un_operateurkoregaonpark, damage does occur to windows/apple systems -- but it is hidden from you so you can get the desktop up (not a good thing)12:41
rausb0koregaonpark: then type in: fsck.ext3 -fy /12:42
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koregaonparkun_operator, i understand.12:42
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koregaonparkrausb0, one min12:42
mauricekMedia player12:42
rausb0koregaonpark: and if it doesnt work, try this: fsck.ext3 -fy -b 8193 /12:43
koregaonparkrausb0, the superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2 filesystem12:43
koregaonparkrausb0, okay12:43
rausb0koregaonpark: ext2? ubuntu uses ext3 by default12:43
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un_operateurrausb0, koregaonpark, you might want to use  fsck.ext2 instead12:43
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mauricekubuntu 5.04 version can't play any video?12:43
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koregaonparkun_operator, okay i'll try ext212:44
T1hey can anyone help me calibrate a joystick please12:44
rausb0un_operateur: i wonder how koregaonpark managed to install ubuntu with ext2 fs12:44
GreyGhost-Ubuntumauricek ,what format do u want?12:44
koregaonparkbtw i have to add the "/" too right?12:44
rausb0koregaonpark: yes12:44
un_operateurrausb0, he probably changed that -- or installed an older version -- hoary/breezy12:44
mauricekmediaplayer12:44
rausb0un_operateur: he said it is 6.0612:45
koregaonparkrausb0, both the ext3 attempts failed, trying ext212:45
koregaonparkun_operator, i might have changed that12:45
mauricekI don't care as long as it works for ubuntu 5.0412:45
un_operateurrausb0, he could have dist-upgraded to 6.0612:45
digTroHi, I'm having a problem with switch workspace shortcuts (Ctrl+Alt+Arrow Key). The left side keys are not working, but the right side ones are working. Also there seems to be no problem with the individual keys12:45
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GreyGhost-Ubuntumauricek , ummmm i meant ... which format are the videos in? .avi ... .mp4 ?12:45
koregaonparkun_operator, my primary partition is an empty fat32 30gb12:45
koregaonparkun_operator, i have the 6.06 cd12:45
digTroI mean the left side Ctrl and Alt key combination12:45
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rausb0koregaonpark: the live cd or the alternate cd?12:46
T1anyone know how to change the sensitivity of a joystick, globally12:46
mauricekwindows media12:46
mauricekmp312:46
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un_operateurkoregaonpark, fat32??  <scratches head and frowns>12:46
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GreyGhost-Ubuntumauricek ,oh ... one sec ...12:46
GreyGhost-Ubuntu!wmv12:46
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:46
mauricekthank you12:46
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koregaonparkun_operator, yes, i recently formatted that to fat32. i was trying to figure out how to merge the previously ext3 patrition with my ubuntu one12:47
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GreyGhost-Ubuntumauricek , i think u'll need a new media player ... u'll find the info on that page ..12:47
T1mauricek: sounds like a codec problem12:48
koregaonparkun_operator, rausb0, anything else i could do?12:48
berbeari have problem adding files from winxp to my linux box via samba. i can login but cant copy files over... what can i do?12:48
un_operateurkoregaonpark, what dod the fsck do/say?12:48
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koregaonparkun_operator, the superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2/3 filesystem12:49
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un_operateurkoregaonpark, ok -- is / a fat32 or extx file system? let me get that straight12:49
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rausb0koregaonpark: i understand that you formatted your ubuntu partition (which was ext3) with fat32?12:50
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berbeari have problem adding files from winxp to my linux box via samba. i can login but cant copy files over... what can i do?12:50
koregaonparkun_operator, there are two partitions, one is fat32, one is either ext2 or 3, it might be that the fat32 partition has become the boot partition or whatever12:51
un_operateurberbear, can you navigate to smb://name/share  -- where name and share correspond to a machine name and share respectively12:51
rausb0koregaonpark: and which one is the ubuntu root partition (mounted on /)?12:51
koregaonparkubuntu is ext3/212:52
koregaonparkfat32 is empty12:52
un_operateurkoregaonpark, ok, thats better -- relief12:52
koregaonparkun_operator, rausb0, brb12:52
rausb0koregaonpark: okay, and which device is the ext2/3 partition? (like sda2, hda5, ...)12:52
digTroHi, I'm having a problem with switch workspace shortcuts (Ctrl+Alt+Arrow Key). The left side keys (Ctrl+Alt combination) are not working, but the right side ones are working. Also there seems to be no problem with the individual keys..12:53
un_operateurkoregaonpark, I think it's better you reinstall witht he right layout -- and avoid using fat32 at all12:53
berbearyes12:53
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berbearun_operateur: yes12:53
rausb0un_operateur: i guess you are right12:53
un_operateurberbear, and do you see any files then?12:54
berbearun_operateur: yes12:54
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un_operateurberbear, what happens when you try and copy them across to a folder locally -- tell us the right error messages if any12:54
berbearun_operateur: brb in 5mins12:54
un_operateur5mins ? :o12:54
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chrishoeppnerHi12:55
chrishoeppnerhow do I check my glibc version?12:55
bun-bunanyone know if there is a plugin for xmms to play wma files?12:55
rausb0chrishoeppner: ls -l /lib/libc.so.612:55
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un_operateurbun-bun -- sure -- if you search the repos -- you should find a package called xmms-wma/v12:56
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un_operateurbun-bun, you might be interested in w32codecs too12:56
un_operateur!w32codecs | bun-bun12:56
ubotubun-bun: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:56
bun-bunalready have w32codec12:56
bun-buns12:56
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chrishoeppnerbun-bun: i've installed the w32codecs pack and can play wma12:56
bun-bunfrom xmms?12:57
chrishoeppneryeah12:57
un_operateurbun-bun, you should be able to play wma from any app if you have the right codecs12:57
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un_operateurbun-bun, anyway -- try this at a terminal -- sudo aptitude install xmms-wma12:57
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user_deploymentun_operateur, sudo aptitude install xmms-wma does not exist12:59
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user_deploymenttry for yourself12:59
bun-buni can play wma files through totem etc, just not xmms12:59
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user_deploymentamarok bun-bun  ?01:00
G68DR3G9+ (25) http://DesMania.skyblog.com Viens t'Chatter avec nous ! IRC-No-Escape.No-IP.org http://www.DesMania.info Rejoins-nous vite ! h t t p : / / w w w . D e s M a n i a . i n f o01:00
bun-bunwhich leads me to believe xmms needs its own plugin01:00
un_operateur!xmms-wma01:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xmms-wma - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:00
user_deploymentsee un_operateur ?01:00
bun-bunuser_deployment# totem is my default, don't have amarok installed01:00
user_deploymentamarok roks have ti just in case01:00
un_operateuruser_deployment, apt-cache policy xmms-wma says -- I have Installed: 1.0.5-301:01
user_deploymentyou oon gnome right ?01:01
Flannelun_operateur: which repository?01:01
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user_deploymenthmmm01:02
bun-bunuser_deployment# rather not install kde libs01:02
un_operateurFlannel, feisty/universe -- which explains why others dont see it01:02
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user_deploymentright un_operateur01:02
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berbearun_operateur: back.. sorry. wat do u mean by copy locally? as in copy paste from anywhere on my system to the place where im sharing using samba?01:03
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un_operateurberbear, the other way around --01:03
koregaonparkrausb0, hda1 is fat32.01:04
un_operateurberbear, copy from remote location to local folder01:04
satishanybody know how to disable full screen controls in totem?01:04
Nookie^!unrar01:04
ubotuunrar is rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression  There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free01:04
mauricekwhy is it so complicated to download executable mutlimedia???01:04
berbearun_operateur: yea i can copy a file from winxp box to my linux desktop01:04
un_operateurbun-bun, user_deployment  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/x/xmms-wma/01:04
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mauricekI just want it simple01:04
rausb0koregaonpark: like un_operateur said, better reinstall01:04
mauricek there are just away too many steps...01:05
koregaonparkokay. no problemo. i'll install another os, pull my files and format the partition01:05
koregaonparkcheers rausb0, un_operator, thanks for helping me out...01:05
un_operateurmauricek, because most multimedia is encoded in restricted formats -- and that is why ubuntu doesnt include the packages by default01:05
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un_operateurkoregaonpark, you might want to think carefully about the layout before installing eh01:06
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mauricekwhat is simple then?01:06
koregaonparkun_operator, uh... okay. i'm just a b00b trying to be all cool running liinux...01:06
koregaonparklol01:06
koregaonparkn00b01:06
Flannel!easyubuntu | mauricek01:06
ubotumauricek: easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu01:06
un_operateurlol b00b :))01:06
koregaonparkhehe... somtimes typos can be funny.01:06
koregaonparkciao01:07
mauricekI will try it01:07
un_operateurkoregaonpark, well, we all make mistakes -- and mistakes are important, they have to be made01:07
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koregaonparkun_operator, yeah, i know01:07
un_operateurkoregaonpark, the next time around -- you'll have a better system (as long as you learn from this mistake)01:07
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koregaonparkun_operator, lesson learnt: don't turn off your computer by pulling the plug01:08
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un_operateurkoregaonpark, never ever ever01:08
T1lol01:08
berbearun_operateur: yea i can copy a file from winxp box to my linux desktop. but when i connect to smb:///mycomputer watever file i try to copy it says it already exists. and when i selected replace, it says file cant be deleted01:08
koregaonparkun_operator, but sometimes you just have to... like if the system hangs. it's happened with os x01:08
T1sysrq s, u, b :p01:08
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un_operateurkoregaonpark, what happens if say -- the wheels of your car were pulled off when you were travelling at 100mph ?? :)01:08
T1your f**ked01:09
T1lol01:09
koregaonparkun_operator, well, if i had no control over my car and it was hurtling towards a cliff-edge, i'd rather pull off the wheels than let it keep rolling01:09
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levanderWhere's a good place for Ubuntu GNOME themes?01:10
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koregaonparkis this the legit xchat site?01:10
des1Hi all01:10
user_deploymentberbear, look http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/11/20/20725101:10
koregaonparkhttp://silverex.info/download/01:10
T1gnome-look01:10
des1plz help me01:10
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berbeargnome-look.org01:10
FirstStrikeI think I finally have my gnome themed pretty well01:10
user_deploymentdes1, support channel here01:10
un_operateurkoregaonpark, well, yea, but if you had time and were in no hurry, wouldnt you rather try your best to get the car back in control before a last attempt ditch?01:10
koregaonparkun_operator, yeah, for sure.01:10
des1i was installing ubuntu for 1 week now and i didint succeed01:10
koregaonparkun_operator, is this the legit xchat site? http://silverex.info/download/01:11
T1sysrq s, u, b!01:11
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des1:-$01:11
des1I tried all methods01:11
user_deploymentyou will01:11
un_operateurberbear, where is the file located -- the local one?01:11
koregaonparkun_operator i need an open source irc client for windows01:11
T1des1: which version?01:11
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user_deploymenthardware must be ok des101:11
des1i tried 6:06 and 6:1001:11
un_operateurkoregaonpark, thats xchat for win32 -- so probably is :)01:11
des1let me tell u what iam trieng to do01:12
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koregaonparkthanks!01:12
koregaonparkciao01:12
user_deploymentboth OK des1 6.10 no preferable I thin01:12
FirstStrikethe win32 xchat isn't free01:12
des1I want to install ubuntu on extern USB HD connected to my laptop01:12
FirstStrikeand it's not open source01:12
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T1des1: ahhhh01:12
des1and i made backup partition and everything01:12
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T1des1: can your laptop boot from usb?01:13
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des1but i get msg all the time the faild to creat file system01:13
user_deploymentand des1 is laptop aware of boot option from USB ?01:13
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user_deploymentmeaning BIOS ?01:13
des1and 2 times it full install but when iam reboot it show that i dont have opreativ system01:13
des1yes01:14
des1and i removed the internal hd now01:14
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T1des1: what partition type do you have on your hd?01:14
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des1to install it and identify the extern as primary01:14
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manmadhahow to connect to irssi?01:14
^NaTacHa^hello can someone give sum help with encfs01:14
user_deploymentdes1 it seems like activate partition issue to me01:14
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manmadhai have isntalled irssi But i dont know how to connet to it...01:15
des1maybe01:15
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user_deploymenttake hirencd boot when usb is plugged01:15
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brainiac_ghostmanmadha, irssi -c irc.freenode.net -n manmadha01:15
^NaTacHa^getting /usr/src/encfs-1.2.0/encfs/SSL_Cipher.cpp:147: undefined reference to `EVP_bf_cfb64' on make :/01:15
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brainiac_ghostmanmadha, or same but -n manmadha_01:15
des1and yesterday i get crach install and asked me to report bugs01:15
^NaTacHa^anyone ?01:16
manmadhabrainiac_ghost, ohh 1min01:16
user_deploymentso des1 www.9down.com hirencd01:16
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user_deploymentburn boot and activate usb partition01:16
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user_deploymentburn bootCD (hirenCD) and activate usb partition01:17
des1u mean that on windows01:17
des1ok01:18
SkyrailI've tried installing the ATi graphics drivers but now I just run into a problem when trying to log on something to do with Xsession I think. The only way I can log in now is using one of the two failsafe sessions...any ideas?01:18
user_deploymentdes1  u mean that on windows. <<--- pls dont shorten sentence ?01:18
markeibhello! how can i make my / partition bigger? i have a fat32 one and would like to make it / too01:18
SkyrailI've just uninstalled it so I'll restart and see what happens01:19
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des1ok01:19
user_deploymentskyrail try using bkps of xorg.conf01:19
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des1should i attach the intern hd and download that cd01:20
des1so i dont need to remove the internal Hd01:20
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sheriffi have 3 partitions and first one is winxp, second one is extend of it , 3rd one is ubuntu and i want also use the 2nd. one as an ubuntu file system but how can i do that?01:24
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un_operateur!mkfs01:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mkfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:25
whimsical!ext301:25
ubotuext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org01:25
whimsical!fat3201:26
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse01:26
sheriffwhimsical , can i do it by typing mkfs?01:26
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whimsicali have no idea.  sorry.01:26
whimsicali am new to ubuntu myself.01:26
Stormx2sheriff: Why do you want to use the second as / in ubuntu?01:26
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sheriffi just want to store my documents in it01:27
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Stormx2sheriff: Oh, so you just want to be able to access it?01:27
Stormx2sheriff: or do you want it as your /home?01:27
sheriffStormx2, but now it is ntfs01:27
sheriffStormx2, but now it is ntf01:28
un_operateursheriff,  see the section about creating an ext3 partition here -- http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-7.3-Manual/ref-guide/s1-filesystem-ext3-create.html01:28
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sheriffStormx2, i have a home path but can i format it and make ext3 by any command?01:29
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^NaTacHa^anyone can help me with encfs? getting /usr/src/encfs-1.2.0/encfs/SSL_Cipher.cpp:147: undefined reference to `EVP_bf_cfb64' on make :/01:29
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root_my neck is almost breaking01:29
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un_operateur^NaTacHa^, you might want to try the encfs docs on that one01:30
root_ive been saving torrent files to FAT32 partition01:30
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root_and its being saved there with the incorrect MIME type01:30
root_as plain text01:30
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root_if i save it on my linux drive everything is good01:30
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midgetg0atheya, #samba is dead, anyone familiar with it? i installed samba, created a user, gave it a pass, created a share....and from windows \\192.168.0.3\folder i cant log into it...any ideas?01:30
alperguys, i got a little problem: Ive a very important windows txt-file somewhere on my computer's harddisc; is there a way to get it via restore programs back - tho it's from a (already deleted) windows partition?01:31
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midgetg0atoh, and my windows user also has a password...01:31
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yakumohi im trying to run windows games on my ubuntu using wine can anyone help me how01:31
un_operateurmidgetg0at,  smb://192.168.0.3/folder01:31
thoreauputic!cedega01:31
ubotucedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega01:31
midgetg0atotherway around01:31
midgetg0ati need to access samba share from windows01:31
midgetg0atso it's \\ip-addy\share ...correct01:32
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berbearomg now i cant even connect to the samba share from winxp!!!01:32
NineTeen67CometDoes anyone have a good link for Kino information? I've got it working great with all of my video cameras, but I'm unsure the best way/format to capture the video .. I'm going to have at least 5 1 hour clips I will need to cut up, and use sound off the best one to use across it all .. ideas?01:32
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SkyrailI'm having some problems and I haven't a clue what they actually are and I am wondering if anyone can help. When I try to log in normally I get this error: http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b134/einsteinshamster/STA60027.jpg and when I log into failsafe gnome I get this error: http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b134/einsteinshamster/Screenshot-19.png please could someone help :)01:35
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NineTeen67CometSkyrail: I'm pretty sure it's an xorg.conf problem (/etc/X11/xorg.conf) .. but I'm not coherent enough right now to pick it apart .. If you can Google around for a stock un-edited xorg.conf, save the one you have, and paste the new one in (when I can't get X I use elinks via cli (ctrl+alt+f2) to cruz the web for answers, then use wget to download files ..01:39
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SkyrailNineTeen67Comet: heh ok thanks so much, I hope that works :)01:40
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NineTeen67CometSkyrail: is this a fresh install? Or did you get in and muck with stuff (like I do :) ) ..01:40
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SkyrailNineTeen67Comet: I am trying to install some linux ATi drivers in order to get two screens01:41
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NineTeen67CometSkyrail: aha .. (I'm a dual monitor user myself) .. I would bet your xorg.conf file is a little wrong right now .. (ATI is evil to Linux often times) .. if you can get it back to where it'll let you see your desktop, back that file up and press on with experimenting with stuff ..01:42
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exsI'm trying to buy a PCI atheros (chipset) wifi card, does anyone know a list of them?..01:43
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SkyrailNineTeen67Comet: ok I'll give it a try and once its back to normal reinstall the drivers form scratch again :D01:43
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alperguys help me please: i cant reset BERYL's settings, i srewed them up and would like to get back to the default settings. Through the Button on the BerylOptions it does not work01:44
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nokhow to reconfigure keyboard / keymaps?01:44
alperim using the latest Ubuntu version01:44
NineTeen67CometSkyrail: Yeah .. I did my mom and dad's computers last month while I was home on leave, they both use ATI cards, but they were both 9200SE cards, so the drivers are open and worked like a champ ..01:44
root_guys does any1 know of issues with MIME types on a FAT 32 partiton01:44
root_using edgy01:44
NineTeen67CometSkyrail: I'm outty .. take care and good luck .. x.org is evil too .. along with Samba, Cups, and um .. well .. MS .. lol01:44
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root_happens when saving torrent fails01:45
SkyrailNineTeen67Comet: lol, ok thanks :D I'm using a 9800pro so not too bad01:45
Astaroth_how can I set up my usb hard drives to a fix mount dir?01:45
brainiac_ghostAstaroth_, udev rules and fstab :)01:45
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Astaroth_i edited fstab but they're still mounted as usbdrive and usbdrive-1 Oo01:45
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brainiac_ghostAstaroth_, hmm, udev rules?01:46
berbear_omg i cant even connect to my samba share from winxp!!01:46
Astaroth_oookay what do i have to set?01:46
berbear_no problems the other way round01:46
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StinolezHello, is here anyone, who could help me with problem during the instalation of Ubuntu 6.10 "Edgy Eft" ?01:50
max_whats your problem?01:50
blinxI have some problems with courier01:51
blinxhttp://phpfi.com/18728501:51
StinolezI install it, and during the installation I choose the pswd, but no user. How I could now log on?01:51
blinxbased on the howto -> http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/index.shtml.en01:51
blinxanyone can help me?01:51
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max_when you install it should ask what you want the name of your computer to be01:52
max_thats usually it01:52
Stinolezbut .. I try the name of the computer and it doesn't work01:52
max_your doin the first latter lowercase right01:53
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root_hmmm01:54
root_has anyone had issues saving a torrent file on a FAt 32 partition'01:55
root_using edgy01:55
root_im getting an incorrect MIME type01:55
light_having problems connecting to windows-network server via samba, it can't find the location.. [dapper] 01:55
root_if i save it on my linux ext01:55
root_everything is fine01:55
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root_does any 1 have some idea01:55
root_the file type is being saved as text01:56
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root_and its 0 bytes01:56
root_??01:56
root_please01:56
root_help me...ive been at this for a while now01:56
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max_are there any programs to help you create bootsplashes and kdm themes? or sites with tutorials?01:56
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rusherhello01:57
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midgetg0atSamba issue: I can see the computer in XP workgroup, i've created teh samba user, i've enabled the samba user, i've given teh windows user the same username/password....but i am unable to connect to the share from xp => ubuntu....any ideas...i'm really close...01:57
willskillshi01:57
rusheru need to set the samba password01:58
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midgetg0ati did01:58
mahoundhello01:58
PingunZHey, I want the command 'DNS' to run each 20/30 minutes..01:58
PingunZHow can I do that ?01:58
rushersmbpasswd01:58
midgetg0atyes, i did01:58
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midgetg0atsmbpasswd -e <user>01:58
mahoundi'm trying to start lighttp at boot, but it won't01:58
mahoundi've update-rc lighttp defaults01:58
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dv5237!realse01:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about realse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:58
mahound"update-rc lighttpd defaults", i ean01:58
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aztracker1I just wonder WTF can't smb server use the same username/password that is used for the OS?01:59
dv5237!release01:59
ubotuUbuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases01:59
midgetg0atis there anything else thats obvious rusher?01:59
rushernope01:59
midgetg0atheh, nice.....01:59
PingunZ!cron01:59
ubotucron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm01:59
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xpointi like to know how to start gift, giftd is running, but i am still not connect in giftoxic, why ?01:59
light_having problems connecting to windows-network server via samba, it can't find the location.. [dapper] 01:59
ubuntuuserwhat is a good program for backing up selected folder to other drives in ubuntu 6.06?02:00
max_!grub02:00
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto02:00
berbear_my samba isnt working:( i cant connect to my linux box from winxp!!! cant even login02:00
mahoundanyone?02:00
rushermsg me on gaim : rusherxp berbear02:00
ubuntuusergrub for me?02:01
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berbear_rusher: how do i add u?02:01
mahoundit should be a simple task, but it's not starting as expected02:01
FirstStrikeubuntuuser: simple backup suite02:01
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ubuntuuserfirststike: where do i get that?02:01
mahound"update-rc lighttpd defaults", but lighttpd won't start02:01
rusherif you do not know how to send me a IM on aim, ........02:01
xpointFirstStrike: man tar02:02
root_iok...just found out that this is happening only when im using mozilla02:02
markeibplease anybody tell me if i can enlarge my / partition anyhow if i have got an ntfs and a fat32 one that i could shrink?02:02
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rushergparted markeib02:02
FirstStrikeubuntuuser: sudo aptitude simplebackup02:02
luxuserciao02:02
root_the MIME type is correct if i use another browser02:02
luxusera tutti02:02
luxusernon parlate italiano02:02
luxusercazzo02:02
markeibyeah rusher but how do i run it without / being mounted?02:02
rusherbootcd02:02
max_are there any programs to help you create bootsplashes and kdm themes? or sites with tutorials?02:02
luxusermerda di localizzazioni di ubuntu02:02
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rusherrun a livecd02:02
ubuntuuserFirstStrike:will that do better than "Keep"02:02
thoreauputic!it02:02
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!02:02
FirstStrikexpoint: yea i know what tar is. your point? simple backup runs daily and automatically makes backups for me.02:02
rushergparted live cd is what i love02:03
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FirstStrikeubuntuuser: keep what?02:03
timo901Hey i have extrcted some fles in the tmp file were is it located02:04
timo901i want to cd into it02:04
rusherhow do  you tar a folder?02:04
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markeibok so thank you02:04
FirstStrikeit's at /tmp02:04
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timo901so cd /tmp02:04
ubuntuuserfirstsrike:lol, keep was the name of a backup program i tried last night and didn't work. hey, can i sudo get-apt install simplebackup?02:04
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mahoundanyone?02:05
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mahoundplease?02:05
FirstStrikeubuntuuser: yes..i told you above02:05
FirstStrikerusher:  tar -cvvf folder.tar folder/02:05
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rusherdomo02:05
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mahoundhello?02:07
mahound:|02:07
rusherroom died02:07
rusherlol02:07
berbear_rusher can u see me on aim02:07
max_mahound: whats your peoblem?02:07
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rusherwhat is your name berbear02:08
sheriffis there any application to delete a partition which is ntfs and i wanna make it ext3?02:08
berbear_nyxynyx02:08
mahoundmax_: i want to start lighttpd at boot02:08
ubuntuuserfirststike:i downloaded it, installed it, and now how do i run it?02:08
mahoundi tried update-rc lighttpd default02:08
max_gnome or kde?02:08
rusherthere are progs for that sheriff that comes on the Gparted LiveCD02:08
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mahoundmax_, it's a server, no gnome or kde02:08
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sheriffrusher, i dont have Gparted LiveCD02:08
FirstStrikeubuntuuser: System > Administration > Simple Backup Config02:08
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rusherdownload it02:09
rusheror you need to ntfs4g or ntfs3g02:09
rusheri forgot02:09
rushersearch synaptic for ntfs02:09
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ubuntuuserfirststrike:its not showing up, either there or in alacarte menu editor02:09
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sheriffrusher, but i dont wanna make it ntfs , its already ntfs i wanna make it ext3 and use it as an archive disk02:10
FirstStrikeoh..sorry, it's been a long night (well, morning now)02:10
rusheruse gparted02:10
FirstStrikeubuntuuser: sudo aptitude install sbackup02:11
emunthis mythtv stuff is impossible to instal , help who has managed to install it successfully., or is it a myth02:11
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rusherthere is a myth mtv distro02:11
rusherit is a live cd 2 i thinl02:11
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ubuntuuserfirststrike:now its working!02:12
FirstStrikesorry, my mind slipped there02:12
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rusherntfs in synaptic has many tools02:13
emunis it like myth mtv in google02:13
max_are there any programs to help you create bootsplashes and kdm themes? or sites with tutorials?02:13
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astarohhello02:13
niekieHello.02:14
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astarohgood moorning, ladies and gerlman!!!!02:14
astarohsomebody can programmer to language C???02:15
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gnomefreakastaroh: for help with programming please join #programming02:15
midgetg0at#join samba02:16
midgetg0atbah02:16
midgetg0atreversed it ;)02:16
astarohmy problem is some especial!!!!02:16
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astarohI did some proccess, with fork02:16
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gnomefreakastaroh: astaroh #programming would be the best place to ask02:17
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astarohok!!02:17
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gnomefreakthey seemed to have changed it :(02:18
pfaftlecan someone please tell me how to fix--> ALERT! /dev/hda1 does not exist. dropping to a shell.../bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off02:18
ahowesHi there can ubuntu do any sort of low level disk scan and fix bad sectorrs in a hard drive??02:19
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rusherfsck202:20
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rushere2fsck02:20
rusheri mean02:20
w3ccvpfaftle, sounds like a hardware problem, is the disk still spinning, pluged in, mounted, etc. beyond that I can't be of help02:21
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pfaftlecan someone please tell me how to fix--> ALERT! /dev/hda1 does not exist. dropping to a shell... goes into busybox and says:02:21
max_are there any programs to help you create bootsplashes and kdm themes? or sites with tutorials?02:21
SkyrailIs there any way to access the harddisk from the Live CD and replace a whole folder?02:21
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gnomefreakmax_: gimp02:21
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pfaftlew3ccv: happens while trying to boot file system02:22
pegs-using-e17max: try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto02:22
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gnomefreakpfaftle: new install?02:22
ahowesHi there can anyone help???  Can ubuntu do any sort of low level disk scan and fix bad sectors in a hard drive??02:22
pfaftlegnomefreak: yes02:22
max_gnomefreak: that dosnt answer anything02:22
gnomefreakpfaftle: open /boot/grub/menu.lst and change hda to sda see if that helps02:22
w3ccvpfaftle, boot from CD - check the partition table, sounds like it is corrupted02:22
Skyrailanyone know if you can access the harddrive of a PC using the Live CD so I can replace a folder?02:22
gnomefreakmax_: you asked for an app to help you make images gimp == the app02:23
un_operateurSkyrail, sure02:23
pfaftlegnomefreak: its a plain ATA hdd02:23
max_gnomefreak: i didnt ask for a prgogram to make images02:23
alguien21There's some girl????02:23
timo901hi i keep getting (you do not have permission to install into this directory )02:23
gnomefreakpfaftle: understood the kernel has changed02:23
pegs-using-e17Skyrail: if its an ntfs partition it will be harder to write to it though02:23
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SkyrailI completely messed up some config files in /etc/X11 and so I want to replace that folder with the one on the disc02:24
gnomefreakmax_: yes you did    are there any programs to help you create02:24
timo901i have even tryed /home/02:24
pfaftlew3ccv: i'm a linux noob, i don't know how to check the table02:24
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w3ccvSkyrail, mount the hard disk partition you need, on /mnt  then you can get to it.02:24
midgetg0atk i'm really confused guys...i cant log into my samba share from XP..getting really frustrated.02:24
gnomefreakmax_: do you want to costumize or create02:24
pfaftlegnomefreak: ok, so how do i change to sda?02:24
max_gnomefreak: i said sreate splash screens and kde themes, meaning put them togther from images and such i alreazdy have, made02:24
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timo901 midgetg0at:what dose it say02:24
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midgetg0atits just not letting me login from XP02:24
Skyrailw3ccv: ok thanks I'll give it a try :)02:24
un_operateurSkyrail, thats not going to work the way you think -- most files in that folder are generated on the fly - they arent just pulled off a package02:24
w3ccvpfaftle, use fdisk /dev/hda02:24
midgetg0ati just get prompt after prompt after prompt02:25
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pegs-using-e17max: try this for the boot splash https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto02:25
luxu02:25
timo901midgetg0at:you know the correct password02:25
luxu02:25
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pfaftlewsccv: from which console?02:25
midgetg0atyes, i've created a samba user which is the same as my ubuntu user02:25
midgetg0atand the same as my xp user02:25
Skyrailun_operateur: oh erm...I just want to put them back to default as I can't even get to the logon screen on the installed Ubuntu02:25
thoreauputicluxu: english here , please02:25
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gnomefreakluxu: english please in here02:25
gnomefreakthoreauputic: is that chinese?02:26
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stefgmidgetg0at: have you done: smbpasswd -a 'my_windows-account_name' and smbpasswd -e 'my_windows-accoun_name' on your samba server?02:26
midgetg0atyes02:26
un_operateurSkyrail, does ubuntu boot up to the command prompt atleast?02:26
thoreauputicgnomefreak: unfortunately I don't know :)02:26
luxu02:26
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timo901midgetg0atcheckback on your ubuntu machine .02:26
PingunZ!cron02:26
ubotucron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm02:26
pfaftlew3ccv: from which console?02:26
thoreauputic!cn02:26
ubotuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk02:26
timo901you getting the passwords confused02:26
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midgetg0attim, they all have the same passwords02:26
midgetg0atand all users.02:26
midgetg0ater, and all the same user.02:27
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luxuare you chinese?02:27
niekieWe are not :)02:27
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thoreauputicluxu:  #ubuntu-cn for chinese02:27
gnomefreakluxu join #ubuntu-cn please02:27
luxuthank you02:27
Skyrailun_operateur: I'm not entirely sure, it just stops comes up with this funny screen telling me there's something wrong with X and it can't detect a screen and after I've been through a few screens it then just goes blank with a flashing _ at the top02:27
thoreauputic:)02:27
stefgmidgetg0at: you need to have corresponding win and unix-useraccounts ...02:27
timo901midgetg0at:your user password is not the same as the one samba requires02:27
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timo901yes02:27
pfaftleis there anyone willing to go to PM and talk me through methods to fix the problem?02:27
un_operateurSkyrail, any writing at all?02:27
niekielucasvo, no02:27
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gnomefreakluxu: try /j #ubuntu-cn02:28
midgetg0atyes, stefg, my ubuntu name is teh same as my samba user name is the same as my windows user name02:28
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midgetg0atand all have same pass....02:28
luxuthank you02:28
un_operateurSkyrail, a prompt that says Login: or something like t?02:28
un_operateurit*02:28
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thoreauputicluxu:   /join #ubuntu-cn02:28
pfaftleis there anyone willing to go to PM and talk me through methods to fix the problem?02:28
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stefgmidgetg0at: what error do you get?02:28
thoreauputicluxu: you need /02:28
timo901midgetg0at:samba has its own default pass word unless you have changed it02:28
Skyrailun_operateur: no, I don't get the chance to log in anywhere02:28
midgetg0ati dont get error - just prompts02:28
slacktyroi'm not able to record dvd through ubuntu, can anyone help me?02:28
midgetg0atinteresting tim...02:28
midgetg0atwhats the cmd to chagne it?02:28
un_operateurSkyrail, what happens when you press this -- CTRL+ALT+F1 ?02:29
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midgetg0atsudo smbpasswd02:29
stefg!samba | midgetg0at02:29
ubotumidgetg0at: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT02:29
midgetg0atright02:29
orgy`hi02:29
stefgmidgetg0at: you have read that?02:29
luxu#ubuntu -cn for china02:29
Skyrailun_operateur: I'll have to restart the PC but I'll log back in here using my other PC brb02:29
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linnuxxyhow to install ZipArchive   for php5 in dapper?02:29
midgetg0atis the fact that xp is vmware causing a problem?02:30
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stefgcan be... can you ping all your boxes? real or virtual?02:30
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un_operateurlinnuxxy,  you probably need to download that php module  from the php archives02:31
slacktyromy k3b is return me a writing error: input/output error02:31
Vuenhey guys, what's a free open source alternative to Outlook? in particular i want the calendar features, etc.02:31
midgetg0athrm...i wonder if windows is tryign to send an encrypted password to samba02:31
stefgmidgetg0at: vmware sets up a virtual NAT router inside your machine... so your virtual XP is sort of firewalled02:31
midgetg0atbut samba isnt storing it encrypted..or vice cersa.02:31
thoreauputicVuen: Evolution02:31
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midgetg0atvirtual xp has it's own IP though.02:31
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kazikczesc02:32
aledun_operateur: this is Skyrail on another PC02:32
Vuenthoreauputic: does evolution come with standard ubuntu? or do i need to install it using synaptic?02:32
thoreauputicVuen: which is the Ubuntu default app anyway02:32
orgy`yesterday i opened a *rm video with mplayer (because it was the only program to play it correctly). it worked good, but afterwards i didnt have any sound with other programs even after a restart O_o02:32
kazikhay02:32
slacktyrocan anyone help me with my k3b problem, i need to make a backup02:32
timo901 midgetg0at:i will try and find out whats the default password ok02:32
Vuenthoreauputic: ah, thanks02:32
kazikman do yo spik english?02:32
thoreauputicVuen: it's right there in the menu :)02:32
kazikredy?02:32
un_operateuraled -- ok -- press CTRL+ALT+F102:32
midgetg0atok, but pretty sure i changed it just using: sudo smbpasswd02:33
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un_operateuraled, does that then take you to a promp?02:33
Vuenthoreauputic: :) thanks. i'm not actually in ubuntu right now, i'm asking for a friend, which is why these questions seem strange. thanks02:33
slacktyromy k3b is return me a writing error: input/output error02:33
thoreauputicVuen: OK no problem :)02:33
gnomefreak!grub > pfaftle02:33
aledun_operateur: ok I'm guessing I login here? I've only ever used the cli once and only to mess around so nothing complicated02:33
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stefgslacktyro: check 'dmesg' if there's any error related to your Burner in it02:34
timo901smb.conf02:34
timo901what dose it say02:34
un_operateuraled, dont worry -- i wont leave you hanging -- enter your username and password there and logon02:34
midgetg0atwhat does it say where..there is a bunch of stuff in there.02:34
Vuenthoreauputic: can evolution import data from outlook?02:34
stefgVuen: no02:34
slacktyrostefg: Unable to identify CD-ROM format.02:34
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slacktyrostefg: but it's a dvd-rw02:35
luxu#ubuntu cn02:35
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aledun_operateur: ok when I log in it comes up with some info but it also says -bash: /etc/profile: Ppermission denied02:35
timo901we want it to say this      encrypt password = yes02:35
timo901smb passwd file = /etc/samba/smbpasswd02:35
aled*Permission02:35
thoreauputicVuen: I don't know - I don't use windows at all02:35
stefgslacktyro: hmmm.... looks like a hardware-problem with your DVD-Drive02:35
midgetg0atok, i dont see encrypt password02:35
midgetg0atsec.02:35
timo901luxu are you confused02:35
un_operateuraled -- hmm -- but do you get to a prompt that says  user@computer:~$  ?02:36
erwin_i installed my wireless network connection yesterday, but when the computer boots, wireless doesn't seem to work, if i start the "Wireless Assistant" it shows me the correct ESSID and if i click it, it makes a connection. How do i make ubuntu do this automaticly at startup ?02:36
timo901:)02:36
aledyeah02:36
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thoreauputicluxu:   /join #ubuntu-cn02:36
slacktyrostefg: how can i mount dvd throught mount02:36
slacktyro?02:36
midgetg0atUnknown parameter encountered: "encrypt password"02:36
luxuthank you .I try it again.02:36
un_operateurVuen, check this out  http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/moving-outlook-email-data-to-linux-evolution-mail-client.html02:37
stefgslacktyro: mount -t iso9660 /dev/hd_whateveryour drive is_  /cdrom02:37
aledun_operateur: yeah I've got that02:37
slacktyrostefg: even being a dvd?02:37
timo901 erwin_:make it start up with system sservices02:37
un_operateuraled -- ok --  type this command out -- sudo bash02:37
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stefgslacktyro: dvd's use iso 9660, except DVD-Ram, which uses UDF IMHO02:38
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un_operateuraled, press enter -- you should get a prompt that says   root@computer:~#02:38
aledun_operateur: yup02:38
un_operateuraled -- ok -- type this command -- sudo dpkg-reconfigure --priority low gdm02:38
midgetg0attimo901: get the error? samba doesnt konw "encrypt password"02:38
timo901midgetg0at: were is that error from02:39
slacktyrostefg: it still say that02:39
slacktyroUnable to identify CD-ROM format.02:39
timo901smb.conf?02:39
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luxu#ubuntu -cn02:39
stefgslacktyro: even a clever command can't fix a broken drive :-\02:39
timo901luxu not that way lol02:39
midgetg0atthe error was from: testparm02:39
un_operateur  /join #ubuntu-cn02:39
luxuI am a new man02:40
midgetg0atafter i made the change to the file.02:40
aledun_operateur: yeah, came up with something about reloading GNOME display manager and ending all X sessions02:40
un_operateuraled -- ok -- press this now -- CTRL+ALT+F702:40
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thoreauputicluxu: no spaces02:40
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luxuoh.my god02:41
timo901ohh isee02:41
thoreauputicluxu:  /join #ubuntu-cn02:41
midgetg0attimo, you forgot an "s"02:41
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luxuI do it .thank you very much02:41
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thoreauputicluxu: :)02:42
timo901luxu not that way02:42
aledun_operateur: ok, I have done so but it comes up with this weird error screen02:42
vnshello guys, how can I remove maximize/minimize animation in gnome?02:42
un_operateuraled, ok, what does it say?02:42
timo901some one tell luxu how to join a chat02:42
thoreauputiche made it :)02:42
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timo901thank god02:43
thoreauputictimo901: he's there now02:43
thoreauputicheheh02:43
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un_operateurluxu is "a new man" :)02:43
timo901midgetg0at:maybe we can restart the services02:43
aledun_operateur: Failed to start the X server. It is likely it is not set up correctly. Would you like to view the X server outpu to diagnose the problem02:43
un_operateuraled, ok, go ahead -- select yes and tell us briefly what it says02:44
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midgetg0attimo901: i restarted samba alread, about a million times, i've rebooted vmware windows, i changed the samba user passwords after i added that encryption param.....02:44
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timo901un_operateur:I remember when i was like that ,ever thing was just a big blur02:44
midgetg0atstill the same thing.02:44
midgetg0atxp keeps giving me prompt after prompt after prompt02:44
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un_operateurtimo901, like what lol ?02:44
midgetg0atare the passwords not being stored in the same way?!02:44
timo901un_operateur:when i was new to all this02:45
aledun_operateur: it says that failed to load module GLcore and libGLcore.so and no devices detected and concludes no screens found02:45
un_operateurmidgetg0at, on your ubuntu machine -- can you log on to the samba share using nautilus smb://machine/share02:45
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sightre all02:46
luxuI succeed.thank you for help me.02:46
timo901midgetg0at:make sure your network configuration is good ,or we just waisting your time02:46
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erwin_timo901: how do i start the wireless network with system services ? Is it an excisting service that needs to be started or do i have to create a new one ?02:46
midgetg0at....02:46
midgetg0atnetwork is fine....02:46
un_operateuraled .. ok -- CTRL+ALT+F1 -- and that should take you back to the prompt -- at the prompt --- just verify if you can get on the internet -- ping google.com02:46
rusherifup ath0 / wlan-02:47
midgetg0ati wouldnt see hte other computer if it wasnt...02:47
cmt^^what's a good tool for ripping dvd's in linux?02:47
pandrewhi! how can i make one of my usb 2.0 ports run as Usb 1.0 or 1.1 as default? i have a mp3 player that looks like that has problems with usb 2.0. thanks02:47
rusherxdvdrip02:47
aledun_operateur: its pinging :D02:47
un_operateuraled, if ping says -- 64 bytes from .... it means you can02:47
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rusheror xdvdshrink02:47
ZaggynlHi, I would like to upgrade from Dapper to Edgy, but first I want to make a backup of all I have now, what would be the best way to do?02:47
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rushersome dvd ley you right click and copy and pase iso02:47
aledun_operateur: yeah 0% loss02:47
rusheri had many problems upgrading from dapper - edgy02:48
midgetg0atok, so how do i verify that my share definition is setup correctly?02:48
un_operateuraledd, nice -- now type these commands in -- aptitude remove xserver-xorg-core; aptitude install xserver-xorg-core02:48
timo901midgetg0at:you would be surprised at how network connections can be confusing02:48
Zaggynlcmt^^, k9copy02:48
midgetg0atk, but lets not jump into configuring networks that appear to be working correctly when we haven't even verified the samba share definition....02:48
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un_operateuraled, hows it going?02:49
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aledun_operateur: oh sorry, yeah didn't see that02:49
un_operateurmidgetg0at, can you access your samba shares locally ?02:49
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un_operateuraled, oops -- my bad -- typed your name out wrong :p02:50
pegs-using-e17would anyone have an idea what this could be... i have dapper installed.. and after a while of uptime (like just now.. been up for 4 hours) the hdd in this machine starts ticking as though it parks the heads, then unparks.. reads.. then parks them again (i think thats what its doing anyway).. it doesnt seem to happen in windowz02:50
rausb0pandrew: sudo rmmod ehci-hcd02:50
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un_operateuraled, just in case you want them again -- aptitude remove xserver-xorg-core; aptitude install xserver-xorg-core02:50
timo901 midgetg0at:i was just checking02:50
midgetg0atyes, i can access them locally.02:50
aledun_operateur: ok thanks :) its doing it now02:51
un_operateurmidgetg0at, by locally i mean smb://machinename/share -- smb://ipaddress/share etc02:51
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midgetg0atyes, i know02:51
midgetg0atthat is where i'm at.02:51
midgetg0atsmb://localhost/WWWRoot02:51
sightcan somebody help me with mounting ext3 partition with write access for user?02:51
timo901erwin_:http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/09/05/205523202:51
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un_operateurmidgetg0at, i hope you know localhost is different to <machinename> :)02:52
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un_operateurmidgetg0at, and that you've tried both02:52
erwin_timo901: i'll have a read, thank you02:52
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midgetg0atif you're asking can i access it locally, localhost is fine.02:52
timo901your welcome02:52
midgetg0atand yes, it works with machine name as well....02:52
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aledun_operateur: I really need to learn more cli stuff as it's pretty interesting and very useful02:52
timo901let me know how you get on, wireless can be tricky02:52
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futzilogikdoes anyone know how sound juicer determines the title infos for my cd? (cause it get's it completely wrong)02:52
un_operateurmidgetg0at, I'm asking if both smb://localhost and smb://$HOSTNAME  work the same02:53
rausb0aled: command line rules :)02:53
midgetg0atindeed they do.02:53
T1futzilogik: gets then from a server on the net02:53
aledrausb0: :D02:53
erwin_okay :p02:53
futzilogikT1, do you know which one?02:53
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aledI need to learn more stuff about it as I get more interested in setting up more complicated stuff02:53
un_operateurmidgetg0at, i wasnt following all along -- but how was XP failing to connect?02:53
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rausb0aled: i do many things on the command line, even when running X02:53
midgetg0atit just keeps prompting me for user/pass02:54
T1futzilogik: freedb i think02:54
timo901 futzilogik:should be able to find out in the configuration side of things /settings02:54
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aledrausb0: I use it for simple things like moving, renaming and editing files as most people should do realy, I'm hoping to learn more about networking and networking booting and administration using Linux, so it'll be useful02:54
futzilogikT1, kscd uses freedb and it doesn't find anything02:54
pandrewrausb0: thanks, i'll try it now, one moment02:54
un_operateurmidgetg0at, if you tail /var/log/samba/log.smbd -- you'll find out why it was failing02:54
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midgetg0atok, sec...02:55
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aledun_operateur: it's finished :)02:55
futzilogiktimo901, hey, it's a gnome application, there are no such settings in a gnome app ;-)02:55
un_operateuraled, reboot :) and cross yer fingers :)02:55
aledok02:55
midgetg0atk, hnow do i tail :)02:55
un_operateuraled -- this is how its done -- shutdown -r now02:55
T1futzilogik: does it just do it for one cd or all of them?02:55
aledun_operateur: I just typed reboot and...erm it rebooted lol02:56
un_operateurmidgetg0at,   at a terminal -- tail -f /var/log...02:56
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un_operateuraled .. nice ha ha :)02:56
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futzilogikT1, usually it get's it right, but I have burned a sampler of my own, and now it says this is an album of "moist", whoever this is ....02:56
midgetg0atwhen i try to login on the windows box...it should be showing up on tail?02:56
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futzilogikT1, it's a pitty it doesn't use cd-text cause all the info is there on the cd...02:57
T1futzilogik: if its your own compliation it will probably just find the closest match, the best thing to do is submit the track listing to freedb02:57
midgetg0atbecause nothigns showing up02:57
un_operateurmidgetg0at, the log.smbd will log why the login attempts from windows XP were failing02:57
timo901futzilogik: well i did sey configure02:57
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un_operateurmidgetg0at, check to see if that file actually exists there02:57
futzilogiktime901: you mean ./configure --enable-sth?02:58
cmt^^Zaggynl - thanks for the tip, looks promising02:58
un_operateurmidgetg0at,  ls -l ,,,02:58
slacktyroi'm able to record cds but no able to record dvds, what can it be?02:58
midgetg0atinteresting...i just see server starts in that file02:58
midgetg0atapparently the samba server is never getting hit...02:58
aledun_operateur: no luck :( there's another error file after the first one which is pretty big02:58
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un_operateurmidgetg0at, xp is failing because something's amis -- if the server was never hit -- the xp will complain about the share not existing02:58
timo901midgetg0at:hit ?02:58
midgetg0ati tried to access the share from both vmware xp and an actual xp box.02:58
Zaggynlcmt^^, I have very good experiences with it, but always burn first on a DVD-RW02:59
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timo901did it work ?02:59
un_operateuraled, ok, in brief -- can you tell us what the new error is saying?02:59
midgetg0atwell, if the server was hit, it's not getting logged in taht file.02:59
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aledun_operateur: give me a min, just restarted again02:59
un_operateurmidgetg0at, ahh vmware -- have you made sure that the vmware host OS name is different to ubuntu's machine name?03:00
timo901some how i dont think samba is to blame03:00
midgetg0atyes, they are different03:00
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futzilogikok, thanks T1 + timo901!03:00
midgetg0attimo901: it doesnt even work from an actual xp box...03:00
yakumohello i install some software using wine and the shortcut appear on my desktop but when i double when i try to execute it error mssg appear any can help me with this03:00
un_operateurmidgetg0at, rather than try using the same username and password -- try something different -- create a new user on samba and try again03:00
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midgetg0atso far it's not acting like a vmware problem.03:00
midgetg0atok, sec.03:01
un_operateuryakumo, do you know how to use wine?03:01
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midgetg0atso i need an ubuntu user w/ the same name first...03:01
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timo901i done a network my self,not once did i try a fix samba just my connection03:02
yakumoi setup using sudo wine 'program name'03:02
un_operateurmidgetg0at, no different username and password -- completely different to your windows one03:02
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yakumoi setup using sudo wine 'program name' or the .exe03:02
aledun_operateur: I think it's a more detailed file of the previous one but it goes on about how it can't find some font files, PCI scanning, loading files and modules and then ends with the same piece of information that no screens found03:02
justin__anyone know how to get borders to work after i start beryl-manager? i have tried to reload window manager and it doens't change anything03:02
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Vuenegad03:02
Vuensudo wine is almost certainly a bad idea03:02
IdleOneyakumo,  cd to directory where program is installed then type wine programname to start the program03:02
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Vuentrojaned windows programs will scribble all over your harddrive03:02
timo901justin__: are barders windows ?03:03
un_operateuryakumo, what i want to know is if the program installed probably or not?03:03
timo901sort of like the fames around the window ?03:03
justin__timo901, what?03:03
justin__yes03:03
un_operateurVuen, windows viruses can only affect the ~/.wine directory -- thats about it03:03
un_operateuraled .. hmm, just one moment03:03
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justin__timo901, like i have no title or the close buttons or nothin03:03
slacktyrothere're a lib to be able to record dvds?03:03
timo901when then you have a beryl problem ,what you card ?03:03
Vuenun_operateur: not if you run them as root. wine mounts z: as /03:03
elysium444!wine03:03
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.03:03
timo901justin__:i know what you mean03:04
Vuenun_operateur: so if you sudo wine <virus>, it can scribble all over your root partition03:04
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justin__nvidia, 6800 GT it's not that03:04
midgetg0atFailed to initialise SAM_ACCOUNT for user test. Does this user exist in the UNIX password database ?03:04
midgetg0atand i did create the user....03:04
yakumothe folder name appear on /home/yakumo/.wine/drive_c/Program Files so i think it is install03:04
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aledun_operateur: ok, I don't paticularly want to reinstall Ubuntu as well as I have quite a few files on there I should of really backed up...but I dind't03:04
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timo901justin__:you have that configured correctly have you ?03:04
justin__timo901, it's not the card it's a setting i have missing or something03:04
justin__timo901, yes b/c games work03:04
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timo901didi it work the first tiem you logged on03:05
stefgthere have been studies to see, if wine is vulnerable by virusses. They didn't find a single /worm/Trojan/Virus working on wine properly... That's how bad wine is: won't even run the most common win-programs :-)03:05
whimsicaldamn stefg - wine sux03:05
justin__timo901, no i have jsut installed beryl, and i havn't been able to get window borders unless i use Metacity as my window manager03:05
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thoreauputicstefg: submit a bug repoert ;p03:05
midgetg0atk...so now i use that new user account (test/test) from windows to connect to the share...03:05
timo901ok justin__:03:05
thoreauputic*report03:05
midgetg0atand WTF - it works03:06
slacktyrostefg: the driver is working with cds03:06
midgetg0atbah, what a waste of time!03:06
un_operateuraled, well, not just yet -- try this -- at the terminal -- sudo aptitude remove x11-common; sudo aptitude install x11-common03:06
Vuenstefg: obviously the programs won't understand the linux file system; it's not like they'll know how to make themselves autorun through wine. the point is if you sudo wine, they can WRITE there, and some viruses do that. do you really want a win32 program writing itself to /boot for example?03:06
midgetg0atanyway, thanks guys, finally got it working :)03:06
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timo901regoing to have to restart all the beryl sevices03:06
midgetg0atnow i can go smoke and cry because my daughter will be up soon and i've yet to do any real work tonight :-/03:06
slacktyrostefg: i already see dvds here, but now i'm not able to mount it03:06
midgetg0atanyway, thanks again03:06
Vuenstefg: even if it can't execute anything malicious, i sure don't want it to have write acccess.03:06
elysium444can wine and cedega both be installed?03:06
pandrewremoving ehci_hcd helped! :-) thanks. now another question: can i try somehow something between the two? so that it will still be faster?03:06
Vuenelysium444: yep03:06
elysium444thanks03:06
IdleOneelysium444, sure03:07
timo901 midgetg0at: congrats man03:07
timo901 justin__: still with me ?03:07
emunis the mythtv live cd  bootimg from cd and staying there or do I have to install the os bcause i already have ubuntu  and where can i diwnload the livecd03:07
pandrewalso about usb 2.0 is there a fixed timing? i mean can it be the problem that a crystal in my device is not the required03:07
yakumo<IdleOne> i browse on my folder where the program is installed and error mssg appear 'components mswinsck.ocx or one of its dependecies is not correctly installed03:07
pandrewfrequency?03:07
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justin__timo901, no i not sure what you mean? everything in beryl is working.. the cude, the bluring water drops... just have no borders around my windwos03:08
un_operateuryakumo, you need to copy that file across from a windows system32 folder03:08
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aledun_operateur: done03:08
un_operateuryakumo, into wine's system32 folder obviously03:08
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Vuenjustin__: you need to add ARGBVisuals to your xorg.conf03:08
slacktyroto record dvds, is necessary any lib?03:08
alperhello guys, I ve downloaded an icon package, how can I use it??03:08
timo901justin__:dont worry we will sort this out03:08
yakumobut i do't have windows install...03:08
Vuenjustin__: look on the wiki on www.beryl-project.org to see how to do that03:08
un_operateuraled -- ok, next one -- sudo dpkg-reconfigure --priority low gdm03:08
timo901i had this problem my self03:08
yakumobut i don't have windows install...03:08
highnekoDpkg says: No packages found matching *mplayer*. But i used to be able to get these packages just by uncommenting my sources.list file. Is there some copyright problem they're having maybe?03:09
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stefg!mplayer03:09
ubotumplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile03:09
ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.03:09
gilnimhello03:09
houseBhi.. can an ADSL modem work as a dialup ?03:09
aledun_operateur: ok done so03:09
slacktyro!dvd03:09
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages03:09
highnekostefg: Thanks, but that's not exactly the answer I was looking for. :303:09
justin__Vuen, awesome thanks, must have missed that step03:09
un_operateuraled -- CTRL+ALT+F7 ..03:09
justin__timo901, thanks for the help though03:10
Vuenjustin__: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install/Ubuntu03:10
timo901sorted ?03:10
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stefghighneko: read carefully... the sentence starts with ... enable the universe repo .... :-)03:10
aledun_operateur: it just takes me back to that error screen03:10
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aledshould I reboot?03:10
Vuenjustin__: until you get emerald working, remember alt+click moves windows and alt+middleclick resizes them03:10
gabihi - i need some help with setting thunderbird on Dapper03:10
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un_operateuraled -- ok -- back to command prompt and this -- sudo /etc/init.d/gdm reload03:11
emunplease where is the livecd for mythtv available for download03:11
stefghighneko: forgot to sudo apt-get update after editing /etc/apt/sources.list?03:11
justin__Vuen, thanks03:11
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timo901Vuen:its an easy problem to solve ,looks like he has03:11
highnekostefg: No.03:11
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timo901sudo apt-get update -f03:11
aledun_operateur: ok it says Changes will take effect when all current X sessions have loaded...03:11
gilnimI installed Windows XP on a second partition (E:/)- Win wrote its bootsector on the first partition (C:/)03:12
gilnimafter that I installed ubuntu on the first partition (C:/)03:12
gilnimi thought grub would recognise win xp but it didn't. i can boot ubuntu but i donno what to do to get win xp to boot03:12
gabii get an error saying the mail server responded 5.7.0 when trying to send mail from thunderbird03:12
un_operateuraled -- ok  -- sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart;03:12
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stefg!grub03:12
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto03:12
highnekoI was asking, I used to be able to get these packages just by uncommenting that file. Is the package available for you people? maybe it's just my local mirror?03:12
un_operateurhighneko, can you pastebin your sources.list please03:13
aledun_operateur: failed to start the X server again, I haven't a clue whats wrong :(03:13
gilnimstefg: i need some help restoring windows - not grub ...03:13
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un_operateuraled, can you tell me briefly what the error is saying? what files are missing? etc03:13
highnekothis one should do it right? deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse03:13
un_operateurgilnim, you said you installed XP to C:  and then ubuntu on C: ... errm, what does that say?03:14
emunwho knows how to install mythtv03:14
stefggilnim: look into /boot/grub/menu.lst, you'll find a premade entry for a win-boot there, just uncomment it and adapt it to your situation03:14
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gilnimun_operateur: i installed xp on E: and linux after that on C:03:14
gilnimstefg: doesn't work03:14
stefg!does:t work03:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about does:t work - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:15
un_operateurgilnim, the boot sector to windows usually must always reside on C: -- if you install anything on C: afterwards it gets overridden -- so the bootsector no longer exists03:15
stefg!doesnt work03:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about doesnt work - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:15
gilnimstefg: i'm not quite sure how grub counts the partitions03:15
stefg!doesn't work03:15
ubotuPlease elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)03:15
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_3ljhey all, im having problems, im trying to install ubuntu server, to just get to the comand line, and to install fluxbox ontop, and i have used apt-get to install all the xserver stuff, but whenenver i try and start it, i get an "Error: Couldn't connect to XServer" is this common/anyone else had it? / know of any sites which tell me how to fix it?03:16
gilnimun_operateur: i know - i want to know if someone knows how to restore it03:16
stefggilnim: grub counts by starting at 0, not at 1... /dev/hda1 == (hd0,0)03:16
IdleOneubotu, tell gilnim about grub03:16
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gilnimdoes it count the difference between primary and extendet parition?03:17
aledun_operateur: give me a mo03:17
stefggilnim:  please read the grub manual03:17
emunbye, simce i cam not get help  with this mythtv stuff03:17
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gilnimcya03:17
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un_operateurgilnim, you'll need to restore the win bootloader to c:\ .. install ubuntu on someother extended partition (not C:) .. and then configure grub to boot windows of C: and ubuntu of the partition to which /boot corresponds to03:18
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stefgun_operateur: he'd get ntldr missing, if that's the case03:19
yakumo<un_operateur>sorry but i don't have windows install is there any way to fix it??? :)03:19
aledun_operateur: http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b134/einsteinshamster/STA60028.jpg that is what I get03:19
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un_operateurstefg, thats always how i've dual booted03:20
un_operateurstefg, how do you do it?03:20
un_operateuryakumo, you have a windows CD perhaps??03:20
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yakumoyup03:20
yakumo<un_operateur>i have windows xp cd03:21
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stefgun_operateur: i have a 100 MB service/boot/grub partition ... somewhat to complex to explain in 2 lines03:21
biotrox!xmms03:22
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs03:22
un_operateuryakumo, ok, what was the name of the file again?03:22
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AfiefHow do i upgrade from Dapper to Edgy?03:23
spikeb!upgrade03:23
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes03:23
yakumo<un_operateur>sori but what file again??? :)03:24
stefg_3lj: Why don't you use fluxbuntu?... have you already done 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' ?03:25
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_3lji tried fluxbuntu, but was trying to learn how to do it from scratch, perhaps where im going wrong :-P03:25
un_operateurstefg, thats what i mean too -- C:\ as 100Mb -- E:\ as say 20GB -- linux boot next and / after that -- XP installs to E:\ but writes boot.ini to C:\ and NTLDR to boot sector -- ubuntu installs normall on /boot and / but overwrites the bootsector -- if it is then configured properly to boot windows off of C: and linux off of /boot it ought to work03:26
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Russelhiho03:26
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un_operateuryakumo, what is the name of the file that you are missing in wine??03:26
thoreauputic_3lj: first install x-window-system-core, and maybe at least an xterm03:26
sally2can one share files between mac osx and ubuntu?03:26
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yakumo<un_operateur>sori wait for a moment.03:27
Russeli got a problem: i installed dapper and updatet to edgy but now if i want to login to gnome the gnome loads and crashes (after loading update manager)03:27
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theblueHi all.03:27
_3lj(and no i havent tried, that, dare i ask, what does that do? (im a bit new to linux, just getting the hang of apt-get, what does dpkg do? :-/)03:27
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pedroHi all. I want to install beryl in my desktop.03:27
stefg_3lj: you are probably miising some packages (xfonts is very popular to be forgotten). That's where metapackages help, because the draw all the right dependencies03:27
theblueIs there a way to have a common set of login/passwords, home directories, etc. across several servers?03:27
Russelit crashes me back to gdm if i try to login again the whole pc freezes can't even get to a tty03:27
un_operateuraled, ok, i'm just doing a search ATM -- bear with me03:28
pedrobut i dont know what 3d card i have?03:28
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aledun_operateur: it's ok, the wait for Christmas takes long enough, in your own time as you've been such a great help to me so far :)03:28
pedrohow can i know? anyone know a good howto about beryl?03:28
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yakumo<un_operateur>mswinsck.ocx03:29
_3ljstefg: ah ok, ill try the dpkg and also look to make sure i have gotten all the xfonts, thanks for the help, brb03:29
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thoreauputic_3lj: x-window-system-core and xterm should give you a base: install fluxbox and startx should then start it, although better would be startfluxbox03:30
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thoreauputicor startx /usr/bin/startfluxbox03:31
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savvasdoes ubuntu have a dns cache program?03:32
thoreauputicsavvas:  dnsmasq is a dns cache program I believe03:32
thoreauputic!info dnsmasq03:32
ubotudnsmasq: A small caching DNS proxy and DHCP server. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.33-1 (edgy), package size 174 kB, installed size 580 kB03:32
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timo901Checking for required C library versions ... OK03:33
timo901Checking for X ... OK03:33
timo901Checking for TCL Scripting Language ... failed03:33
timo901-------------------------------03:33
timo901Error: Could not find 'TCL Scripting Language'. Try using the native package manager for Ubuntu 6.10 (apt-get) to install a package with similar name to 'tcl'.03:33
timo901Error: Unable to prepare package AMSN MSN client.03:33
Lifedont paste here03:33
savvasthoreauputic: i mean does it have pre-installed/default dns cache program?03:33
Life!paste03:33
timo901ok03:33
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)03:33
timo901ok03:34
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thoreauputicsavvas: not as far as i know03:34
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Lifetimo: do what it says, apt-get it03:34
savvasok thanks03:34
timo901yeh i dont sudo apt-get install tcl03:34
timo901nothing ....03:34
Cosmonaut3030timo901: should be apt-get install tcl amsn03:34
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timo901ahh i almost had it03:35
Cosmonaut3030timo901: apt-cache search tcl-tk03:35
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Lifedo apt-get update then search for it03:35
thoreauputictimo901: if you are compling look for -dev packages03:35
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yakumo<un_operateur>also i have download a zip file that has a plugin folder, and the .exe, do i need the plugin folder to completely install it on wine??? :)03:36
GreyGhost-Ubuntudoes the install CD come with KDE packages?03:37
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Cosmonaut3030timo901: sudo apt-get install amsn tcltls docker tcl8.4 tk8.403:37
timo901i cant find it using atp-get ,im going to try google03:37
GreyGhost-Ubuntu!KDE03:37
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE03:37
stockfisch_does anyone know how i can find out why cedega does not use my 3d settings?03:37
Cosmonaut3030timo901: sudo apt-get install amsn tcltls docker tcl8.4 tk8.403:37
timo901ohh ok thanks03:37
Cosmonaut3030It should work.03:37
Cosmonaut3030Does it?03:37
un_operateuryakumo, errm that would depend on the applications -- i dont think that related to wine03:38
timo901:)thx03:38
Cosmonaut3030Np :)03:38
un_operateuryakumo, do you have an email address? i'll send you the ocx file03:38
yakumook thnks03:38
stockfisch_glxinfo shows dri=on, but cedegy does not find it03:38
thoreauputictimo901: use apt-cache search <keywords> to find things03:38
yakumoyes its... anime_namida@yahoo.com03:38
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theblueHow would I set up a quota for users?03:39
GreyGhost-Ubuntu!synaptic03:39
ubotusynaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto03:39
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stefg!quota03:40
ubotuquota: implementation of the disk quota system. In component main, is optional. Version 3.13-8 (edgy), package size 393 kB, installed size 1196 kB03:40
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adam0509hello03:40
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arnoradam0509: hello03:40
arnorall: Hello :)03:40
timo901thoreauputic:for instance i should have sudo apt-cache amsn tcl ?03:40
adam0509do someone knows how to restart X ? I'm making a script...03:40
GreyGhost-Ubuntu!hi | adam0509 , arnor03:40
ubotuadam0509 , arnor: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!03:40
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poppyerhi all, my SHIFT-NUMLOCK to use keyboard simualte mouse is not working, any setting/files should I check03:41
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stockfisch_/etc/init.d/gdm|xgl restart03:41
adam0509"startx" is for start, bbut is there any "stopx" or something like that ?03:41
adam0509I'm not using XGL03:41
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adam0509it's for a old PIII03:41
stefgadam0509: if you run this script from a terminal inside X it will hardly continue after that command :-)03:41
thoreauputictimo901: no, apt-cache search amsn tcl  ( sudo not needed for search)03:41
un_operateuryakumo, n/m -- here you are -- www.aliensoftware.co.uk/Files0908/MSWINSCK.OCX03:41
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stockfisch_ah, sorry this is for gnome, not for x03:41
timo901ohh ok03:41
poppyeradam0509, try CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE03:41
luxuI use old p2 300m03:41
timo901thx03:42
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GreyGhost-Ubuntuhow can i get synaptic to display only packages from the CD roM?03:42
un_operateuryakumo, if you want additional files -- www.dll-files.com03:42
adam0509stefg => I want to copy xorg.conf.tv to xorg.conf then restart X03:42
arnoradam0509: or just have a look on "init" documentation03:42
un_operateuraled, you there?03:42
thoreauputictimo901: sudo apt-get install apt-howto && apt-howto  ;-)03:42
thoreauputicseriously03:42
adam0509it's for a Geforce 256DDR using TV-OUT03:42
yakumo<un_operateur> ok thnks03:42
vonbrunohi all. any expert have 10 mins to help me with kubuntu 6.10 install?03:42
johns^adam0509: ctrl-alt-backspace kills the x server03:42
un_operateur!anyone | vonbruno03:43
ubotuvonbruno: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?03:43
adam0509johns^, => I know, but I want a command so that itt will be INSIDE the script03:43
johns^ah03:43
adam0509just avec copying xorg.conf.tv to xorg03:43
johns^killall gdm03:43
johns^\?03:43
thoreauputicvonbruno: also try /join #kubuntu03:43
adam0509after*03:43
timo901thoreauputic:yep03:43
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timo901thanks for the wisdom03:43
aledun_operateur: am now03:43
stefgadam0509: on ubuntu it's wiser to restart gdm... sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart03:44
un_operateuraled, have a look at this -- http://lists.debian.org/debian-x/2006/10/msg00395.html03:44
thoreauputictimo901: you can find the apt howto on line too03:44
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aledun_operateur: thanks :) will do03:44
un_operateuraled, well, it's saying -- you dont need that module03:44
adam0509...mmm gonna test some things, thanks all for the answer03:44
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un_operateuraled, and that you'll need to comment it out of your xorg.conf gile03:45
thoreauputictimo901: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/03:45
aledun_operateur: so I have to comment that line out in the xorg.conf file?03:45
aledun_operateur: lol ok03:45
un_operateuraled, ha, yea :)03:45
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aledun_operateur: how will I do that using the command line? sorry If I'm becoming a pain03:45
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un_operateuraled, at the terminal -- sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:45
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un_operateuraled, no worries -- I learn too eh :)03:46
vonbrunook - i'm trying to install ubuntu 6.10 live cd on asus a2d laptop (ati mobility radeon, via chipset, amd) - kernel loads, but installation halts before anything shows up03:46
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vonbrunotried with noapic, nolapic and vga=77103:47
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un_operateuraled, I dunno how the line looks like -- but the point is -- once you find it -- put a # at the beginning of the line03:47
aledun_operateur: ok I'm guessing it's the one that says Load "GLcore"03:47
wasabi_when compiling a new kernel, do i have to do it on the same machine or can i just compile it on a different machine and then transfer?03:47
un_operateuraled, aye, that sure looks like it03:48
DinmOIs there a good program to safely copy stuff over, because nautilus always just terminates and stops without warning03:48
aledun_operateur: so just a # at the beginning right?03:48
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alperhi, where can I find the userChrome of Firefox? ./mozilla/firefox/XXXXXXX.XXXXX/chrome/userChrome.css03:48
alperwhere is that?03:48
DinmOAnd I never know if it copied over right03:48
DinmOuntil it's too late03:48
un_operateurwasabi_, you can do either -- but ideally you should do it on the same machine so it finds the right kernel headers and modules03:48
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un_operateuraled, yes03:48
wasabi_un_operateur, oh yea! i forgot about that03:49
wasabi_i was trying to save time because my laptop is fairly slow03:49
aledok shall I just now reboot un_operateur03:49
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un_operateuraled, have you saved the file , etc etc03:49
un_operateur?03:49
aledyeah03:49
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un_operateuraled, if you have just verify that the changes are made -- less /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:49
gilihow does one customize the taskbar03:50
gili?>03:50
lmgoh, that was quick. hi #ubuntu! :)03:50
giliyes i am new03:50
thoreauputicalper: in your home directory - hit ctrl-h in nautilus to see hidden dot files03:50
grimeboygili, Right click03:50
alperthanks thoreauputic03:50
grimeboygili, Add to Panel03:50
aledun_operateur: yeah its been saved, now that I've done that less thing how do I get out of it?03:50
grimeboygili, Shove what you want on there.03:50
un_operateuraled -- q :)03:51
lmgcatch you later maybe! *waves*03:51
wasabi_un_operateur, is there an optimization guide for compiling kernel specific to intel m laptops?03:51
giliyes i know that03:51
wasabi_pentium m*03:51
gilii meant customizing the lok03:51
gililook03:51
aledun_operateur: :D I remember that now, sometimes they are pretty simple, I have learnt a lot today :)03:51
gililike i dont want it to say "applications"03:52
un_operateuraled -- also remembed this sequence -- CTRL+C incase you get stuck in a utility -- it almost always terminate it and brings you back to the terminal03:52
gilii want it to say start or GNome or whatever...03:52
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grimeboyIs there a way to get screenshots to not suck on dual head in gnome?03:52
aledun_operateur: I certainly won't forget that then :)03:52
un_operateurwasabi -- errm, not that i know off-- its not my speciality -- i've only done it twice and both times it's pretty straight forward as long as you know what modules to include and what not to03:52
aledun_operateur: do you know where the best place is to learn about the CLI and networking and administrating other PCs using it etc.?03:53
giliso.....how do i customize the taskbar to Look different03:53
gili??03:53
ranceI need some help with a sound card detection problem, I HAVE read the standard ubuntu sound help pages that the ubot spits out, but no avail.  I have read that there is a bug in the alsa module that improperly detects the features of the sound card, but for the record the right module IS loaded, can someone give me a hand, or at least a more informative pointer than the standard sound helps, cause they dont help any more03:53
un_operateur!docs03:53
ubotudocumentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com03:53
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un_operateuraled ^^03:53
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wasabi_un_operateur, okay thanks03:54
un_operateuraled .. then you might like to consider browsing the oreilly bookshelves03:54
gilii want the applications button on taskbar eddited to something else....how do i do that>03:54
gili?03:54
wasabi_un_operateur, i will search around03:54
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tdogcan you help me fix my resolution .. ?03:54
stefg!fixres03:54
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto03:54
aledun_operateur: thanks. ah ok. Well it looks like I'll be able to start from scratch at this rate as it's still not working :|03:54
un_operateurwasabi_, if you do and you succeed in building you might like to contribute to the wiki :)03:54
tdogi had kubuntu installed, booted and today my resolution has been changed03:54
ReTyPehow is that program called that visualizes the size of files and filders on a graphical diagram ?03:54
tdogi can not fix this03:54
un_operateuraled, did you reboot?03:54
wasabi_un_operateur, i certainly will03:55
tdogi removed k. and im in GNOME03:55
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aledun_operateur: yeah03:55
tdoghave the same problems03:55
un_operateuraled, whats it this time?03:55
wasabi_un_operateur, the ubuntu wiki?03:55
un_operateurwasabi_, yep03:55
bibekhello room03:55
ubek_people i have problem to shut down my laptop comant like poweroff shutdown does not work03:55
ubek_i have acpi=off03:55
stefgtdog: sudo dpkg-rconfigure xserver-xorg (from console.... not from within X)03:55
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ubek_some advice?03:56
bibekim looking for suggestion for a firewall03:56
aledun_operateur: exactly the same error03:56
stefgtdog: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (from console.... not from within X)03:56
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wasabi_un_operateur, i will do this as soon as i get my new charger in the mail... lol.. it's kinda hard to compile a new kernel when running on battery03:56
tdogim not good at linux, i tired that , but i don't undrestand most of it03:56
aledun_operateur: maybe I should just re-install Ubuntu :(03:56
tdogtried03:56
x-r00t-xhello guys . can anyone help me with con conky03:56
un_operateuraled, verify that the xorg.conf file wasnt changed on reboot03:56
wasabi_i'm off to bed. later guys03:56
un_operateuraled, - less /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:56
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GreyGhost-Ubuntutotem was supposed to have crashed... but it seemed to work fine ;)03:57
x-r00t-x!conky03:57
ubotuconky: highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.2-1 (edgy), package size 118 kB, installed size 376 kB03:57
bibekcan anyone recommend a firewall??03:57
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thoreauputicbibek: firestarter, but you won't need it unless you rub services ( apache etc or maybe ssh)03:57
un_operateurbibek, the one and only iptables03:57
aledun_operateur: no change03:57
bibekim on kubuntu and dont want firestarter03:57
maltHello, what is the source list path in ubuntu? so my package manger can download alot of other packages03:57
bibekany similar programs?03:57
x-r00t-xbibek, firestarter03:57
stefgbibek: you already have one.. iptables, which is the only one you need03:57
thoreauputicbibek: guarddog03:58
x-r00t-x!firestarter bibek03:58
ubotufirestarter: gtk program for managing and observing your firewall. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 383 kB, installed size 1884 kB03:58
berbear_if i  run apache for my own use, do i need a firewall?03:58
un_operateuraled, if there are no changes, then its impossible to get the same error03:58
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x-r00t-xberbear_, no already firewall already installed03:58
thoreauputic!info guarddog03:58
ubotuguarddog: firewall configuration utility for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.0-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 476 kB, installed size 1424 kB03:58
x-r00t-xiptables03:58
bibeklearning iptables???03:58
tdogif i reinstall linux, would that remove my APACHE config and all the scripts that i have there running ?03:58
bibekany nice GUI tool beside firestarter? :-D03:58
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thoreauputicx-r00t-x: configuring iptables is hardly easy for new users :)03:59
aledun_operateur: hmm, there's a hash still infront of that line, let me reboot again to see if I can notice a difference03:59
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GreyGhost-Ubuntu!repositories | malt03:59
ubotumalt: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource03:59
bibekguarddog?? hmm03:59
stefgtdog: that depends... but sure, if everything is on one partition03:59
thoreauputicbibek: I gave you one above for KDE03:59
x-r00t-xthoreauputic, yes i know03:59
MarcNtdog: only if you do apt-get --purge apache2  (apt-get remove apache2 just removes the binaries and 'things that don't change')03:59
un_operateurtdog, not unless you format the partition and reinstall apache itself -- best you make an offline backup of important config files03:59
Lunar_LampHow do I execute a script as a normal user with root privellages? That is, how do I allow a user to do something as root without giving them sudo acess? Is it chmod 0755?03:59
bibekthoreauputic: guarddog??03:59
x-r00t-xbibek, install firestarter . its will be easy for you03:59
thoreauputicbibek: Guarddog is pretty good ( haven't used it fo a few years)03:59
tdogmy problme is resolution of my system just changed today .. lol . no idea how to fix that04:00
stefgLunar_Lamp: man setuid04:00
x-r00t-xthoreauputic, i dont like guarddog04:00
Lunar_Lampstefg, thanks04:00
thoreauputicbibek: yes, if you run kubuntu, guarddog is qt/KDE04:00
thoreauputicx-r00t-x: tastes vary04:00
GreyGhost-Ubuntumalt , /etc/apt/sources.list04:00
bibekx-r00t-x: installing firestarter on KUBUNTU will install gnome-stuffs04:00
maltthanks04:00
bibekthoreauputic: yeah thanks04:00
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Lunar_Lampstefg -  man setuid04:00
Lunar_LampNo manual entry for setuid04:00
berbear_i dun find firestarter in my menu.. how do i run it04:00
thoreauputicbibek: install guarddog and see if you like it04:00
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stefgLunar_Lamp: got it..04:00
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thoreauputicberbear_: you need to install it first :)04:01
x-r00t-xbibek, umm i dont know about about kde04:01
GreyGhost-Ubuntuhey anyone  had crashing problem with totem when u tried to change visualization size?04:01
x-r00t-xlol04:01
bibekthoreauputic: will do that, thanks a lot04:01
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aledun_operateur: ah wait, it says (EE) No devices detected.04:01
berbear_i installed firestarter using spm already04:01
stefgLunar_Lamp: you want the script to run 'setuid root'04:01
bibekgot to see Arsenal's game04:01
bibeksee ya04:01
x-r00t-xberbear_, sudo apt-get install firestarter04:01
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aledun_operateur: but no error about files just some ionfo about it loading the xorg.conf file04:01
thoreauputicberbear_: erm, install it from synaptic or add/remove applications04:01
AcidStrikerI had been trying to install tcl.h. I have try many packages but non of them seem to include it. Someone know which package I have to install04:01
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x-r00t-xthoreauputic, can you help me with conky ?04:02
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un_operateuraled, can you click up another snap -- it'd be great :)04:02
thoreauputicberbear_: using rpm on ubuntu is crazy :)04:02
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berbear_hmm sorry  i meant spm04:02
berbear_synaptic04:02
aledun_operateur: ok :)04:02
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thoreauputicx-r00t-x: not really - I j=had a look at it but I don't like it *grin*04:02
GreyGhost-Ubuntuthoreauputic ,use alien .....04:02
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thoreauputicGreyGhost-Ubuntu: *cough* not really a good way to go04:03
thoreauputicGreyGhost-Ubuntu: alien is a compromise at best04:03
berbear_i dont find firestarter in add/remove programs04:03
x-r00t-xthoreauputic, i just installed few hour ago ... and i cant added on stat up .. i mean i did add but its not working.04:03
thoreauputic!info firestarter04:03
ubotufirestarter: gtk program for managing and observing your firewall. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 383 kB, installed size 1884 kB04:03
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GreyGhost-Ubuntuthoreauputic , yeah ...true if deb is virtually impossible to find ... then switch to alien ....04:03
thoreauputicberbear_: you need to enable the extra repositories04:03
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ubek_no niestety P04:03
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ubek_-f nie pomoglo04:03
berbear_ive enabvled them and installed using synaptic.. but they dun show up in my menu04:04
AcidStrikerI had been trying to install tcl.h. I have try many packages but non of them seem to include it. Someone know which package I have to install04:04
thoreauputic!repos | berbear_04:04
ubotuberbear_: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource04:04
GreyGhost-Ubuntu berbear_ , did a reload ?04:04
stefgLunar_Lamp: man chmod04:04
FullmoonIs there another image for server edition? I cant find a download...04:04
samerndownloads from the ubuntu archive are always very slow, can someone please help?04:04
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thoreauputicsamern: try a closer mirror ?04:04
stefg!download04:04
ubotuUbuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive04:04
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x-r00t-x!unrealircd04:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about unrealircd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:05
x-r00t-x!ircd04:05
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ubotuircd: IRC Server daemon - dummy package. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0 (edgy), package size 6 kB, installed size 36 kB04:05
berbear_oo found firestarter.. its hidding there heh04:05
thoreauputicberbear_: :)04:05
FullmoonAh, there is no server image jet for 6.10?04:05
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thoreauputicFullmoon: sure there is04:06
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stefgFullmoon: how late is it in your timezone?... :-)04:06
ubek_people help me with this poweroff04:06
Fullmoonstefg: 16pm04:06
Fullmoonstefg: 4pm i meant ;)04:06
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Fullmoonthoreauputic: I found one by changing the url for client-i386 to server-i386, yeah ;)04:06
stefgFullmoon: so no there's no excuse.... like being tired or so ;-)04:06
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DinmOIs there a good program to safely copy stuff over, because nautilus always just terminates and stops without warning04:07
Fullmoonstefg: ;)04:07
un_operateurDinmO, probably cp at the commandline04:07
berbear_is iptables enabled by default?04:07
thoreauputicDinmO: scp, cp04:07
berbear_is iptables enabled by default?  do i need a firewall if im using a router04:07
un_operateurberbear_, no04:07
DinmOWould it stop if there is an error and give me options?04:07
DinmOLike retry and stuff04:07
thoreauputicberbear_: yes, but it lets everything in/out04:07
un_operateurberbear_, its always a good idea to use a firewall04:08
stefgberbear_: no, and no04:08
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berbear_ok04:08
thoreauputicby default. iptables has a full ACCEPT policy04:08
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un_operateurstefg, you dont need a firewall if you use a router??04:08
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thoreauputicso yes, it is running by default, just not doing anything :)04:08
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berbear_ah ok04:08
thoreauputicun_operateur: depends what you have port-forwarded04:09
twagerAnyone using feisty ?04:09
stefgun_operateur: if your router is is only worth 2 cents it's got it's own firewall in it. Thta'S were it belongs04:09
Tomcat_twager: Yep.04:09
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emoI'd tried to put xubuntu long time ago but didn't work now I want to upgrade my system for 6.10 and I can't do it when I type gksudo "update-manager -c -d" I get error04:09
samernupdates are always very slow to download :S - can someone please help ?04:09
thoreauputictwager:  /j #ubuntu+104:09
twagerCan you get the cnn vids running ?04:09
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un_operateurstefg, that almost like saying -- you dont need anti-virus protection on your PC as long as your mail-server takes care of it04:10
GreyGhost-Ubuntutwager , problem happens to be?04:10
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thoreauputicsamern: no enough information - have you tried a different mirror ?04:10
PuffmuddaIm not an native english speaker so pardon my grammar mistakes. Im using Ubuntu 6.10 on my Laptop Amilo M 1425. One major problem is that during reboot the system freezes at the splash screen. But if i like to shutdown there are no problems. Hope somebody can help me here.04:10
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twagerJust tell me it cannoy play the files yet I have all the codecs in04:10
samernthoreauputic: you mean, changing the repos ?04:10
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emoany idea what I have to do guys, please...04:10
thoreauputicsamern: there are mirrors in various countries for apt sources04:11
Tomcat_emo: You still haven't said what error you get. :o04:11
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aledun_operateur: sorry about the delay, firefox crashed: http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b134/einsteinshamster/STA60029.jpg04:11
samernthoreauputic: how may I switch to another mirror ?04:11
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Tomcat_samern: Admin => Software Source => Choose04:12
thoreauputicsamern: by editing /etc/apt/sources.list04:12
GreyGhost-Ubuntutwager ,if the codecs are properly instaleld then ... i don't have any idea... :(04:12
thoreauputicsamern: maybe Tomcat_ is right and it can be done that way too04:12
Tomcat_thoreauputic, samern: Yeah, both work.04:12
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DinmOerr how do I use cp, I told it to copy a directory and it said it's omitting it?04:13
thoreauputicsamern: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive/OfficialMirrors04:13
samernthanks :)04:13
Tomcat_DinmO: You need to specifiy -r or -a (read man page) to copy recursively (with directories)04:13
TheAspIs it possible to get nfs4+krb5 to work with daemons that need to read stuff from home dirs, such as ssh authorized_keys?04:13
DinmOOooh that's what it means04:13
DinmOI read the man04:13
DinmObut did not know what that meant04:13
Tomcat_DinmO: :)04:13
thoreauputicsamern: some ISPs also have ubuntu mirrors04:13
un_operateuraled, ok, i must ask -- do you use an nvidia or ati video card?04:14
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twagerAll the codecs are there and only cnn does not work !!04:14
DinmOTo add verbose and recursive do I do -vr or -v -r?04:14
DinmOI'm a command line nub :c04:14
emoTomcat_: my add/remove program tells me that I have connetion problem...04:15
thoreauputictwager: cnn seems to expect a win media player - complain to the webmaster :)04:15
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aledun_operateur: I use ATI Radeon 9800Pro04:15
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Tomcat_emo: Well, do you?04:15
twagerIt is ok on my Dapper partition..04:15
thoreauputictwager: you might be able to d/l fom there with the "unplug" firefox extension04:15
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thoreauputictwager: hmm04:15
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emoTomcat_:not really otherwise I would browser now would I ?04:16
un_operateuraled, have a look here -- http://wiki.x.org/wiki/FAQErrorMessages#head-93b1e0b56f76546d61364f789045e9c745b6cfd404:16
thoreauputictwager: I have trouble on cnn with dapper04:16
emoTomcat_:I mean I wouldn't04:16
Tomcat_emo: In that case, check your connection to the servers mentioned in /etc/apt/sources.list... either those servers are wrong or your ISP has some problems with them.04:16
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aledun_operateur: ok thanks, I'll have a look04:17
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twagerDpper and edgy are ok with me...so is Mepis but with feisty I am stuck..04:17
un_operateuraled, basically saying -- that the drivers for the particular card arent being detected properly04:17
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DinmOTo add verbose and recursive do I do -vr or -v -r?04:17
bibekthoreauputic: i wanted to ask u about guarddog04:17
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thoreauputicbibek: I don't use it at the moment - I think it has a help function though :)04:18
thoreauputicbibek: I just use iptables and an editor here :)04:18
GreyGhost-Ubuntuthats weird ... no apps are starting up ... not even system mo nitor ... no error eithere......04:19
thoreauputicbibek: what's your question?04:19
aledun_operateur: erm ok, well I have to go now so I won't be able to fix it until later, I'll bookmark that page and read it later then see if I can fix it later on04:19
emoTomcat_:but I think isn't the case because otherwise I wouldn't be able to isntall any software but I made a test and I can do it, so the problem is must something else, I got another pc at the same network and the upgrade for 6.10 was smooth04:19
bibekthoreauputic: alright04:19
un_operateuraled, yea, well, atleast now you're half-way there :)04:19
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GreyGhost-Ubuntulets do a restart ....04:19
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bibekthoreauputic: just a general question, how do i enable access of web but block incoming request for my apache server04:19
un_operateuraled, bookmark this too04:20
un_operateur!ati04:20
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:20
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biotroxhow to install ubuntu to UFD..?04:20
thoreauputicbibek: just block the http protocol, if I remember how guarddog works04:20
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thoreauputicbibek: or block port 80 incoming04:20
bibekah04:21
bibeklet me try it04:21
aledun_operateur: thank you so much, bye and thanks04:21
un_operateuraled, good luck and yw :)04:21
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giliso yes i am new....and i want to know how to customize the taksbar....04:22
thoreauputicbibek: if you are behind a router you probably don't need to, unless you have port 80 forwarded to your box04:22
gilii want to change the look of the text04:22
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emoTomcat_: I think because I got gnome and xfce run together well suppost to run together but it doesn't because I try to change from gnome to xfce but I could't and I'm afraid to mess around too much because I don't want loose my files...04:22
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gilii want the taksbar not to say "applications" but something else04:23
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thoreauputicgili: thta's hard-coded in I think04:23
Tomcat_emo: Well, I don't really know a solution. If you can install software, the update should just work. :\04:23
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bibekthoreauputic: nop04:23
porchohi there. I'm trying to run a sega master system emulator in ubuntu breezy, and it's running way too fast. is there a program (like "moslo" for dos) wich I can use to slow it down?04:23
giliso the look of the taskbar is not customizable04:23
bibekthoreauputic: in guarddog there is just option of permitting or rejection04:23
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gili?04:23
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biotroxubuntu in USB drive anyone..?04:24
thoreauputicbibek: basically the only incoming ports you need to worry about are ones that have daemons/services listening on them04:24
biotrox!ubuntu USD drive04:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu USD drive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:24
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bibekthoreauputic: yeah i figured, seems that guarddog only permits or rejects connection04:24
mbutUbuntuhi people04:24
mbutUbuntuI've a problem04:24
MarcNbiotrox: Much depends on your BIOS being able to boot from a USB device.04:25
bibekthoreauputic: wait a sec, i see reject here04:25
mbutUbuntuI installed an apache server on my Linux box04:25
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biotroxmarcn i like to install my ubuntu to usb04:25
eigenlambdaubuntu prefers eurodrives04:25
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thoreauputicbibek: do you need to have apache listening on the LAN or only on the box itself?04:25
bibekthoreauputic: nop doesn't work, if i reject or block HTTP -World Wide Proxy then i cannot even browse the net04:25
MarcNeigenlambda: ;-)04:25
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bibekthoreauputic: its on the box04:25
emoTomcat_:so any other advice thing the you would do apart from reformat the machine cos like a said I got too much on it I much rather don't make the upgrade then loose my files..04:26
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thoreauputicbibek: sounds like you have rejected *outgoing*04:26
bibekthoreauputic: but its not listening always, i only start it when i'm working, but dont want others to mess around04:26
thoreauputicbibek: I suggest you ask in #kubuntu - it's a long time since I used guarddog04:27
Tomcat_emo: As I said, you should check if the servers in the sources.list can be reached correctly. Apart from that, no idea. :\04:27
thoreauputicbibek: I have my own iptables script now04:27
bibekthoreauputic: alright, thanx for ur help04:27
frogzoombutUbuntu: if you don't ask your question, we can't give you an answer04:27
thoreauputicno worries :)04:27
bibekthoreauputic: someday i will to ^_^04:27
bibekthoreauputic: c ya04:27
thoreauputicbibek: it is easier than you think :)04:27
MarcNbiotrox: have you tried dd'ing the live iso to a usb device and try booting that?  Again not all BIOS support booting from a usb device.  Mine doesn't, so I've not tried.04:28
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biotroxno need the answer so i can told my friends04:28
thoreauputicbibek: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo04:28
emoTomcat_: okay I gonna do it, cheers.04:28
biotroxmarcn oke thanks04:28
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elysium444!ntfs04:29
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse04:29
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elysium444!fuse04:29
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse04:29
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un_operateur!ntfs-3g04:29
ubotuntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)04:29
elysium444what to use for writing in ntfs for ubuntu 10.6?04:29
elysium444amd6404:29
un_operateurelysium444, ntfs-3g ought to do it04:30
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elysium444thanks04:30
biotroxfues or ntfs-3g04:30
eigenlambdalolntfs04:30
daggerxjust use caution on it04:30
eigenlambdaall you need2do04:30
eigenlambdais04:30
daggerxdont do a partition you love04:30
thoreauputic!ntfs-3g04:30
eigenlambdaput windows on ext304:30
ubotuntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)04:30
eigenlambda^much easier04:30
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daggerxok this is driving me batty here04:30
elysium444I need to give some data to my friend who has external hd04:30
elysium444and have ntfs on it04:31
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un_operateurwindows on ext3? thats insane04:31
eigenlambdalol ntfs on xternal04:31
daggerxi have 3d acceleration... all works great and fast, but my screen savers sux04:31
biotrox!ntfs-3g | elysium44404:31
ubotuelysium444: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)04:31
eigenlambdawho puts ntfs on an external04:31
thoreauputicun_operateur: not  to mention impossible :)04:31
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elysium444eigenlambda: lol04:31
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un_operateurthoreauputic, well, its definitely possible but no one would attempt it, why should they?04:31
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daggerxanyone have any tips for me?04:32
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un_operateureigenlambda, lots of people (including me) use ntfs for pen drives -- because unfortunately its more universally used04:32
thoreauputicun_operateur: ifthey have a lifetime to reverse engineer windows, perhaps ;p04:32
frogzooeigenlambda: ntfs supports large file systems unlike fat3204:33
rpereiraDaggerx... I have the same problem.04:33
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finalbetaWhere do the icons from firefox skins get placed on the disk?04:33
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un_operateurthoreauputic, I think all it needs doing is to use a module in the windows kernel04:34
daggerxwho here tried to choke down a little of windows vista (ick)04:34
thoreauputicwindows vista -->> #ubuntu-offtopic04:34
rpereiraDaggerx: I think is because of the screen savers are OpenGL too, so it scrambles ....04:34
SaxofonerGuys, I was trying to update my system yesterday, and update notifier interrupted, and I tried to do a sudo apt-get today, and I got this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38516/04:34
un_operateurfinalbeta, probably under ~/.firefox or ~/.mozilla04:35
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DinmOTo add verbose and recursive do I do -vr or -v -r?04:35
theblueDinmO: -vr04:35
DinmOAh thanks04:35
theblueDinmO: No problem.04:35
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un_operateurSaxofoner, the freecontrib servers are down -- you need to remove those entries from your sources.list04:35
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Saxofonerokay04:35
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unimatrix9does any one know what this means? Error: Cannot gain SYS_RAWIO capability.Is cdrecord installed SUID root?04:36
unimatrix9: Operation not permitted04:36
thoreauputicSaxofoner: packages.freecontrib.org no longer exists, I think ( plf server?)04:36
Saxofonerthanks, I'll comment them out04:36
finalbetaun_operateur, no, and also not under /usr/share/firefox04:36
unimatrix9and how to resolve it?04:36
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janstedehouderNo more freecontrib? Any idea why?04:36
SaxofonerCould someone give  me a link to the proper default sources.list?  I f'd mine up yesterday w/ a little help from this IRC channel...04:36
thoreauputic!easysource04:37
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic.  It does not currently support Edgy sources.  When asked if it will, the reply was "maybe".04:37
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Saxofonerthanks ubotu04:37
thoreauputichmm no edgy then04:37
jbroomes/dapper/edgy/ done04:37
thoreauputicyes04:37
un_operateurfinalbeta, when you mean skins -- just what do you mean?04:37
porchohi there. I'm trying to run a sega master system emulator in ubuntu breezy, and it's running way too fast. is there a program (like "moslo" for dos) wich I can use to slow it down?04:37
frogzoounimatrix9: the way I fixed that was - create a new group 'cdrom', give yourself group rights, & 'chgrp /dev/hdc' or whatever04:38
thoreauputicjbroome: assuming all the repos you enable have edgy versions04:38
finalbetaun_operateur, what I really need is the little close icon firefox puts on each tab.04:38
jbroomethoreauputic: true, but it's worth a shot04:38
un_operateurfinalbeta, chances are that icon is compiled into the source -- but dont hold me to it04:38
eigenlambdaporcho: not that i know of, but if you run it through a msdos emulator you can slow the emulator down04:38
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un_operateurfinalbeta, why are  you asking that in here ??  /join #firefox04:39
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gutentaghi everyone04:39
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Kicekhe04:39
Kicekhi04:39
Kicek:)04:39
thoreauputicun_operateur: I think the official &firefox is on a different network, unless something has changed04:40
gutentagi have a big problem with swiftfox-firefox04:40
thoreauputicum #firefox04:40
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unimatrix9hmm, but where?04:40
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unimatrix9some on else has an good tip on theis error Is cdrecord installed SUID root?04:41
gutentagdid anyone go on the forums today? i cant retain the cookies and i wanted to know if is only me04:41
unimatrix9Error: Cannot gain SYS_RAWIO capability.Is cdrecord installed SUID root?04:41
unimatrix9: Operation not permitted04:41
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thoreauputicfirefox channel is probably on irc.mozilla.org04:42
Saxofonerubotu: Thanks so much for that link!  I love it!  I think it solved my problem, too.04:42
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thoreauputicSaxofoner: ubotu is a bot :)04:42
Saxofonerthoreauputic: I feel like an idiot... I just remembered that.  Well, he's a cool bot, anyway!04:43
frogzoounimatrix9: why ask the question if you don't acknowledge the replies?04:43
thoreauputicSaxofoner: indeed :)04:43
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unimatrix9i am looking into your suggestion thnak you..04:43
unimatrix9but was wondering if there was an other solution04:44
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SaxofonerBuh Bye04:45
arte_hi!04:45
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arte_can somebody explain me04:45
arte_how to change boot loader to windows ?04:45
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pianoboy3333What do .debs use for compression? zip? gunzip? bunzip?04:46
janstedehouderarte-i: what do you want to do?04:46
un_operateurpianoboy3333, they use ar04:46
arte_afraid one day grub can down04:46
pianoboy3333un_operateur: tar?04:46
un_operateurpianoboy3333, no -- ar as in /usr/bin/ar04:46
arte_i want to load from win boot loader04:46
arte_not grub04:47
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jbroomepirate compression: arrrrrrrrrrrrrrr04:47
thoreauputicunimatrix9: what does  ls -l /dev/cdrom say ? does it show a link to say, /dev/hdc ? If so try sudo chown root:cdrom /dev/hd? where ? is c, d or whatever04:47
pianoboy3333un_operateur: oh...04:47
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thoreauputicunimatrix9: and check that your user is in the cdrom group with the "groups" command04:47
aztecxhow do i play streaming audio04:48
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ubuntuuseri downloaded a .sh package, how do i install it?04:48
arte_anybody .. how to change boot loader from grub to native win ?04:48
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thoreauputicaztecx: that depends. what format is the stream ?04:48
timo901can any one help sudo /etc/init.d/lircd start dosnt seem to start lirc04:48
aztecxwindows04:48
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un_operateurpianoboy3333, and IIRC .debs are not compressed per se -- they are plain archives -- although they do house two compressed files04:48
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thoreauputic!codecs| aztecx04:48
ubotuaztecx: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:48
janstedehouderarte_: do you want to remove GRUB? or set it defaut to WIndowns04:49
unimatrix9cdroms shows up okey04:49
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aztecxthanks04:49
pianoboy3333un_operateur: thankx04:49
pianoboy3333*thanks04:49
arte_yes .. but i want to load ubuntu from win boot loader04:49
thoreauputicunimatrix9: no, what does the link point to ? /dev/hdc ?04:49
arte_i afraid grub can down one day04:49
janstedehouderarte_i: which program do you want to use ynder WIndows04:49
unimatrix9hdd04:49
un_operateurpianoboy3333, yw04:50
arte_n i cudnt be able to load both os04:50
wheels3572Can anyone tell me how to fix this error please04:50
wheels3572wheels@wheels-desktop:~/Desktop/qc-usb-0.6.5$ make all04:50
wheels3572awk: cannot open /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386/build/include/linux/version.h (No such file or directory)04:50
thoreauputicunimatrix9: the run   sudo chown root:cdrom /dev/hdd04:50
arte_boot magic04:50
ubuntuuserhow can i install a .sh file?04:50
timo901ubuntuuser: bash xxx.package04:50
un_operateurwheels3572, have you installed the kernel-headers package?04:50
janstedehouderarte_: just install bootmagic under Windows and it will overwrite the Master boot record04:50
thoreauputicunimatrix9: and check the   groups  command to see if you ar in the cdrom group04:50
wheels3572un_operateur, no that's what im told I need but where do I get that04:50
un_operateurwheels3572, sudo aptitude install build-essential kernel-headers04:51
janstedehouderarte_i: that wil overwrite GRUB without any problem04:51
arte_will it fing ubuntu later ?04:51
timo901ubuntuuser:ohh sorry thout you sed a package file04:51
ubuntuusertimo901, what? the file name is alienarena2007.sh, how do i "install" it?04:51
janstedehouderarte_i: yes, but you might have to set that up in the bootmagic setup04:51
ubuntuuserhas anyone ever heard of it even? .sh that is04:51
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arte_oh thats easy .. thanx jans !04:51
unimatrix9yes i am in the group yippie?04:51
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timo901make shure you have extracted it then ./alixxxxx.sh04:52
un_operateurubuntuuser, an .sh file is a script -- it is usually run by -- sh file.sh    or  bash file.sh04:52
gratuitWhenever I put a blank disk into the cd tray, a dialog pops up asking me what I want to do, is there any way to disable this "feature"? Also when I put a cd in, thunar pops up, I would like to disable this as well. I'm using xfce04:52
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arte_my frien had to reformat all disk after grub error04:52
janstedehouderarte_i: you' re welcome04:52
timo901 ubuntuuser:yes04:52
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thoreauputicunimatrix9: did you run the chown command I gave you?04:52
arte_he lost mass of data04:52
unimatrix9yes04:52
un_operateurgratuit, have you checked the properties of the CD-Rom drive?04:52
SaxofonerI'm back.04:52
SaxofonerDidin't work04:52
timo901 ubuntuuser:cd to the dirctory04:52
Saxofoner*Didn't work04:52
thoreauputicunimatrix9: does cdrecord still complain?04:52
janstedehouderarte_i: that shouldn't be necessary. It just requires some extra knowledge and a disk like Knoppix04:52
unimatrix9testing right now04:52
ubuntuuserso, i have a 112 mb .sh file called alien.sh, so in terminal, would i run sudo sh alien.sh OR sudo bash alien.sh04:52
unimatrix9hold on04:53
unimatrix9:)04:53
eriksayshi all04:53
gratuitun_operateur: where would I find those?04:53
arte_jans it just became raw ?04:53
daggerxsudo ln -sf bash /bin/sh   i think04:53
un_operateurubuntuuser, where did you download the file from?04:53
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arte_wot he had to do ..04:53
eriksaysa while ago i had to reverse the master/slave drives on my ubuntu machine04:53
daggerxthen ./xxxoboy.sh04:53
ubuntuuserthe game website04:53
arte_all partitions04:53
daggerxthen finally sudo ln -sf dash /bin/sh04:53
SaxofonerI can still access files through Terminal, but Nautilus is... "The Application "nautilus" has quit unexpectedly."  I also can't open up Add/Remove.  Though several applications do work.  Such as X-Chat.  Any ideas?04:53
hmg4Anyone know a good Version Control System to use with both Windows and Linux?04:53
un_operateurgratuit, I havent used thunar in a whole -- right click on the CD-Rom drive - properties -- im guessing04:54
arte_1 ntfs , swap and ext3 all of them04:54
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timo901ubuntuuser:did it work ?04:54
ubuntuuserPlease enter the installation location [/usr/games/legends] :      that comes up when i do sudo bash file.sh04:54
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hmg4!cvs04:54
ubotucvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/04:54
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janstedehouderarte_i: things like that can also happen with bootmagic. When GRUB becomes corrupted it is a matter of fixing the MBR. When the whole disk is corrupt it is usually a different problem.04:54
un_operateurubuntulog, hah -- so it is a bash file after all04:54
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thoreauputicubuntuuser: accept the defaults in the script04:54
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SaxofonerCan anybody help me?  I could post some thingies if need be.04:54
unimatrix9does not seem to be an real problem because it writes04:55
wheels3572un_operateur, I get this now Building tag database... Done04:55
wheels3572"kernel-headers" is a virtual package provided by:04:55
wheels3572  kernel-headers-2.4.27-2-k7-smp kernel-headers-2.4.27-2-k704:55
wheels3572  kernel-headers-2.4.27-2-k6 kernel-headers-2.4.27-2-686-smp04:55
wheels3572  kernel-headers-2.4.27-2-686 kernel-headers-2.4.27-2-586tsc04:55
janstedehouderarte_i: you might also want to consider Smart Boot Loader, a program on a floppy disk04:55
wheels3572  kernel-headers-2.4.27-2-386 kernel-headers-2.4.27-2 ,  Also my uname -r shows me as 2.6.17-10-386 does that make a difference?04:55
SaxofonerIt's like nautilus is broken04:55
thoreauputic!paste04:55
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:55
giliok i have a question/problem04:55
ubuntuuserPlease enter the installation location [/usr/games/legends] :04:55
ubuntuuser/usr/games/legends04:55
ubuntuuserPreparing install directory...04:55
ubuntuuserInstall directory ready04:55
SaxofonerAnd I can't get to my computer files w/o terminal04:55
un_operateurwheels3572, never paste in the channel directly -- always use a pastebin04:55
wheels3572sorry04:55
ubuntuuserit paused there04:55
giliI deleted the original pannel so i can creat my own04:55
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arte_jans can u tell me where i cud find info about how to correct that kind of grub error04:55
thoreauputicwheels3572: ;)04:55
wheels3572ouchhhhh04:55
wheels3572splat04:55
wheels3572lol04:55
giliits all goo now but i am trying to make a systray....how do i do that...04:55
un_operateurwheels3572, do a uname -r at the terminal --04:56
gili?04:56
janstedehouderarte_i: one moment04:56
wheels3572is it pastebin.ca04:56
wheels3572I did04:56
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un_operateurwheels3572, and what does that give you?04:56
arte_jans  cud u mail me ?04:56
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wheels3572i get 2.6.17-10-38604:56
Saxofonerthoreauputic: do you have any idea what I could do to install all the missing packages through the terminal?  I think many of the core packages are missing.......04:56
thoreauputicunimatrix9: so, problem solved?04:56
un_operateurwheels3572, one sec04:56
thoreauputicSaxofoner: erm - what do you mean? core packages of what?04:56
unimatrix9cant say, blanking cdrw, takes an long time04:57
gilihow do i add a systray to a new panel bar?04:57
unimatrix9be back when finished04:57
unimatrix9:P04:57
jbroomecd-rw's are usually slower than regular cd-rs04:57
un_operateurwheels3572, sudo aptitude install build-essential  linux-headers-2.6.17-10-38604:57
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janstedehouderarte_i: http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2005/11/how-to-repair-corrupt-mbr-and-boot.html04:57
un_operateurwheels3572, sorry, I always mix those two package names04:57
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arte_oh thanx jans!04:57
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thoreauputicSaxofoner: if this is an upgrade or something, try  sudo apt-get -f install04:58
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gilihow do i add a systray section to a new panel bar?04:58
wheels3572np lol04:58
thoreauputicgili: add "notification area"04:58
janstedehouderarte_i: I have used bootmagic for years and it was easy to use especially when you install more than two operating systems04:58
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Saxofonerthoreauputic: "erm" is right... It's confusing.  See, yesterday, I was trying to update to edgy, and tried to do it by editing sources.list.  Then I ran "sudo apt-get dist-update" but it got super messed up, because about half way through, the update notifier stopped it.  So now, Nautilus is SNAFU, and several apps won't run.  I'll try the -f install thingy...04:59
janelauThis probably sound a bit weird... but has anyone ever attemped to install something like MS Office on Cedega?04:59
daggerx<<<just uses grub --- its better04:59
janstedehouderjanelau: yes. I did04:59
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un_operateurjanstedehouder, does it work alright?04:59
gilithanks thoreauputic04:59
janstedehouderjanelau: up to Office 2003 without a glitch. Except Outlook and Infopath04:59
thoreauputicSaxofoner: rerun sudo aptitude dist-upgrade, run sudo apt-get -f install, run sudo dpkg --configure -a04:59
frogzoojanstedehouder: best bet's Crossover Office04:59
arte_jans wot if it says error 15 or error 21 like my friend had ?05:00
wheels3572ty05:00
thoreauputicSaxofoner: and keep running them until you see no errors :)05:00
un_operateurwheels3572, does it work now?05:00
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SaxofonerI got errors when I just ran sudo apt-get -f install.05:00
wheels3572yes it's apt'ing :)05:00
arte_i mean grub errors05:00
un_operateurSaxofoner, pastebin those errors please05:00
thoreauputicSaxofoner: you need to rerun the commands until all is fixed05:00
wheels3572now there is one other thing I did try from the forums taht I read that apparently didn't work how do I go and look at my last commands executed?05:00
Saxofonersure05:01
daggerxsome say apt-get is fazing out, others say its replacing aptitude... which is it?05:01
thoreauputicdaggerx: aptitude is better, apt-get is deprecated05:01
un_operateurdaggerx, neither -- it will always be what it is -- the right tool for the job05:01
Crescendo_I think my version of Java is causing instability - but I have no idea what version of java I have, or how to get a different one.05:01
janstedehouderarte_: maybe he can check this out : http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/grub-error-guide.xml05:01
daggerxok05:01
un_operateurthoreauputic, ohh no -- apt-get is not deprecated05:01
janstedehouderarte_i: it is for Gentoo but the errror messages are the same05:01
thoreauputicun_operateur: it is for dist-upgrades05:01
arte_i see jans thanx05:02
thoreauputicun_operateur: see debian05:02
wheels3572ok nevermind I got it05:02
un_operateurthoreauputic, you can use it to dist-upgrades -- sure05:02
un_operateurthoreauputic, i see debian indeed :)05:02
Saxofonerthoreauputic: and un_operateur:  Here's the error.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38517/05:02
arte_is it possible to fix boot using live cd  ?05:02
thoreauputicun_operateur: aptitude is just better all round05:02
un_operateurthoreauputic, there are instances where apt-get is better -- it doesnt try to resolve dependancies like aptitude does05:02
mbutUbuntuis there someone who can help me with apache05:02
SaxofonerCrescendo_: How did you insatll it?05:03
janstedehouderarte_i: yep, that is one reason to always keep Knoppix at hand. Knoppix is better than the Ubuntu live CD for that. Knoppix mounts all partititions05:03
Saxofoner*install05:03
mbutUbuntuand the configuration of htaccess and htpasswd05:03
thoreauputicSaxofoner: close whatever other install app is open05:03
mbutUbuntu????05:03
janelaujanstedehouder, lol cool, I just got sick of opeing vmware just to read some .doc files... that's great to hear!!05:03
Crescendo_Saxofoner, I don't remember.  It would have been a while back...?05:03
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mnoirmbutUbuntu: yes - go to #apache05:03
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wheels3572what does this do and do I need this apt-get install build-essential bin86 kernel-package libqt3-headers libqt3-mt-dev (that I installed and im a newbie here do I even need that?05:03
janstedehouderjanelau: you can use OOo for that as well05:03
janstedehouderjanelau: or a Word viewer under Wine05:03
Saxofonerthoreauputic: Only things open are xchat, terminal, firefox, and oh... the nautilus error window that won't close...05:03
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thoreauputicun_operateur: I use aptitude for nearly every thing now05:03
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toshiro#ubuntu-fr05:04
un_operateurwheels3572, they are packages you need to build source05:04
arte_i have knopix but old version05:04
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janstedehouderarte_i: how old?05:04
wheels3572so installing them didn't hurt then05:04
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arte_thanx for ur help see ya!05:04
gilithoreauputic: how do i change the default menu button (ubuntu logo)05:04
janstedehouderarte_i: though it doesn't really matter05:04
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un_operateurthoreauputic, as do i -- but i wouldnt use aptitude within a shell script for e.g. i'd use apt-get05:04
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janstedehouderarte_i take care05:04
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Crescendo_How can I figure out what version of Java I'm using to run applications?05:04
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un_operateurwheels3572, they definitely dont hurt no05:05
mbutUbuntuplease help me with apache!!!!!05:05
alper_hi guys, can anyone send me his "beryl-settings.Profile" // I screwed my settings and cant reset them anymore- please help me :(05:05
Saxofonerthoreauputic: I killed update manager, I still get those same errors05:05
janelaujanstedehouder, yea I know but sometimes Win users make weird .doc files that only Word can see properly. Sometimes only the lastest one too!!05:05
mnoirmbutUbuntu: go. to. #pache05:05
janstedehoudermbutUbuntu: maybe you need the apache channel for that. You can install it through Synaptic05:05
mnoiruuh #apache :)05:05
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janstedehouderjanelau: I agree, but the Word viewer should solve that issue. Unless you need to work with them.05:06
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thoreauputicSaxofoner: try  sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock.bak  then rerun your commands05:06
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Saxofonersure05:06
alper_hi guys, can anyone send me his "beryl-settings.Profile" // I screwed my settings and cant reset them anymore- please help me :(05:06
janstedehouderjanelau: you could try Office under Wine. It should work.05:06
thoreauputicSaxofoner: if that doesn't fix it, you can move the lock file back05:06
janelaujanstedehouder, ok, I suppose cedega is just a specialised version of wine anyway?05:07
un_operateurthoreauputic, if you get an error due to a lock file, does moving the lock file help ??05:07
janstedehouderjanelau: it is05:07
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thoreauputicun_operateur: sometimes :) for instance firefox lock files05:07
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Saxofonerthoreauputic: thanks, that made distupgrade work05:07
SaxofonerI'll move on now05:07
thoreauputicSaxofoner: do keep running the commands until the errors disappear05:08
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un_operateurthoreauputic, but firefox is a non-essential process -- but apt is -- if two apt programs contend for system files, you are likely to ruin things and mess up big time05:08
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SaxofonerMeh, I ran those 3 commands, no errors, but nautilus is still broken...05:09
unimatrix9the error is still there on gnome-baker, but i will ingore it, becuase it burns and erases fine....05:09
thoreauputicun_operateur: I suspect dpkg was in a weird state already05:09
un_operateurthoreauputic, the file is unlikely to be moved anyway - if a file is locked, it cant be deleted05:09
unimatrix9thnx for the help05:09
thoreauputicun_operateur: *cough* as you see, it was moved05:09
Crescendo_When I run "sudo update-alternatives --config java" - what is the sun-java5-jre directory?05:09
un_operateurthoreauputic, but it wasnt locked here, was it? :)05:09
Saxofonerthoreauputic:  and un_operateur:  The nautilus error window is sitll there, and none of the other problems are gone.....05:09
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wheels3572un_operateur, do you know of a tutorial for dummies on how to build your own kernel and what stuff needs to go into it?05:10
thoreauputicun_operateur: and I suggested that he run sudo dpkg --configure -a05:10
Priceywheels3572, why do you want to biuld your own kernel?05:10
un_operateurthoreauputic, the point is -- you must check if other processes have the lock file opened -05:10
thoreauputicun_operateur: which I asked him to do05:10
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Saxofonerun_operateur:  That's done!  The errors are gone, but Nautilus is still fubar!05:10
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thoreauputicun_operateur: but I don't want to argue about it05:11
wheels3572Pricey, well I have a Logitech Quickcam Express that im trying to get working and it's telling me to do my kernel lol05:11
SaxofonerWell, hopefully not fubar, but....05:11
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Priceywheels3572, you only need to install a package for those AFIAK05:11
alperhi guys, can anyone of you using Beryl, can send me his beryl settings? mine are screwed up and I cant reset them :( would be really nice05:11
Pricey*AFAIK05:11
thoreauputicSaxofoner: is /var/lib/dpkg/lock back in place now ?05:11
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Priceyalper, sudo rm -rf ~/.beryl05:11
Saxofonerthoreauputic:  I don't know how to do that.... I think it's using the .bak05:11
wheels3572ohhhh?05:11
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wheels3572Pricey, AFIAK?05:12
thoreauputicSaxofoner: no, it won't use that :)05:12
Priceywheels3572, and if not, then just compile modules... not the entire kernel05:12
Priceywheels3572, as far as i know05:12
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alperPricey, what does that dO?05:12
Kohlgartenhi, does anyone know how to change MTU automatically using Network-manager?05:12
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thoreauputicSaxofoner: what does ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/lock  say ?05:12
un_operateurwheels3572, maybe this one does?  http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu05:12
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Priceyalper, that deletes  your beryl directory in your home, deleting all settings05:12
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wheels3572ok05:12
Priceyalper, then, when you restart beryl, it will install default setting for yuo05:12
alperdo i need to restart my comp now?05:12
Crescendo_When I run "sudo update-alternatives --config java" - what is the sun-java5-jre directory?05:13
wheels3572ty un_operateur will try that05:13
Priceyalper, no05:13
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Priceyalper, just restart beryl from the notification area05:13
alperso I simply exit and start it again?05:13
Saxofonerit says -rw-r----- 1 root root 0 blah blah blah blah blah /var/lib/dpkg/lock05:13
Chinaskyhello how can i change the refresh rate of my tft from 75 to 60 hz?05:13
Priceyalper, that's the ticket :)05:13
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alperhmmm05:13
alperi dont see it05:13
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un_operateurCrescendo,  update-alternatives --list java05:13
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alperthere is only "reload blablbla"05:13
PriceyChinasky, just change the numbers in /etc/X11/xorg.conf (make a backup)05:13
thoreauputicSaxofoner: OK that is fine then05:13
alper"Reload Window Manager"05:14
Priceyalper, reload the window manager05:14
unimatrix9Chinasky have you got nvidia drivers installed, or just normal?05:14
luxu#ubuntu-cn05:14
elysium444I was compiling wine for amd64 what does this mean: /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib/libsicuuc.a(ubidi.ao): relocation R_X86_64_32S against `a local symbol' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC05:14
elysium444/usr/lib/libsicuuc.a: could not read symbols: Bad value05:14
elysium444collect2: ld returned 1 exit status05:14
alperomg THANKS VERY MUCH05:14
alperPricey,05:14
Saxofonerthoreauputic:  any other suggestions?05:14
ChinaskyPricey, let me have a look05:14
Crescendo_un_operateur, yeah, what I did before provides the same list, I have five options.05:14
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Chinaskyunimatrix, nvidia05:14
thoreauputicSaxofoner: have you rerun sudo dpkg --configure -a  and sudo aptitude dist-upgrade without errors ?05:14
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Saxofonerthoreauputic:  YES05:15
thoreauputicSaxofoner: OK - running iut of ideas then05:15
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Saxofonermeh.... Lemme reboot, and see what happens....05:15
unimatrix9chinasky have an read here and see if you can make it work for you too05:15
Chinaskywithout de driver i can change to 60, but after i installed only 75 appears05:15
thoreauputicSaxofoner: nautilus is still borked, right?05:15
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unimatrix9http://www.bloglines.com/myblogs?mode=205:15
Nontitlei first installed ubuntu on my computer and installed kde on top of it. then I installed the package kubuntu-desktop on top of it, and two things changed: the picture that says ubuntu has changed to kubuntu and is blue, and the sound that plays when you load kde right after the splash is different and sucks05:15
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elfreakzmy firefox automatically shut down while using ubuntu edgy.. why?05:15
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Nontitleis there a way to get the oldpic back?05:15
SaxofonerUm.... heh heh... yes, thoreauputic05:15
un_operateurCrescendo, are you asking which is the default java after you run update-alternatives??05:15
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AlbertoCuanto maricon05:16
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Crescendo_I want to use whatever one of those five is the correct one for sun-java5-jre, installed from repositories05:16
thoreauputicSaxofoner: if you log out of gnome and log back in, that might help - but first try  killall nautilus05:16
un_operateurSaxofoner, have you tried reinstalling nautlius?05:16
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Saxofonerun_operateur:  how?05:16
Saxofonerthoreauputic:  and un_operateur:  I'll be right back....05:17
thoreauputicun_operateur: first try killall - it may respawn OK05:17
Neskato23hi guys, ive a problem with the fonts05:17
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elfreakzanybody know why my firefox auto shut down when using edgy?05:17
PriceChildNeskato23, what's the problem?05:17
un_operateurSaxofoner, sudo sh -c "aptitude remove nautilus; aptitude install nautilus"05:17
gopssunsure05:17
Neskato23ive installed lookingglass for ubuntui05:17
PriceChildelfreakz, please start from a terminal, then pastebin the error that occurs when it crashes05:17
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Neskato23but when i try to start session i get this error05:17
Crescendo_          1    /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/bin/java       2    /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.0        3    /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java          4    /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.1           *+        5    /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java05:17
Neskato23Fatal server error:05:17
Neskato23could not open default font 'fixed'05:17
Crescendo_Those are the options I have.05:17
unimatrix9Neskato23 how does it look?05:17
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aspendoraJoin #asterisk-gui05:17
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elfreakzPriceChild, what should i do wit the terminal?05:18
dead1ockhello05:18
mdasilvasup05:18
Crescendo_Using anything but number 5 crashes azureus with a core dump05:18
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dead1ockI'll think about it05:18
mdasilvaI'll think about it05:18
un_operateurCrescendo, I'd use #3 if i were you -- the sun JVM05:18
thoreauputicun_operateur: nautilus wsa still running - worth seeing if killing it and restarting it helped05:18
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luxuhow to do like "dir fo windows" in the ubuntu command line05:18
thoreauputicluxu: ls05:18
un_operateurthoreauputic, I thought he said nautilus is fubared?05:18
PriceChildelfreakz, type "firefox" into it, and use it until it crashes. Hopefully an error will appear in the terminal05:18
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Crescendo_un_operateur, how can I remove the non-standard ones?05:19
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thoreauputicun_operateur: as in not working, yes - but remember that gnome draws the desktop with nautilus05:19
un_operateurCrescendo, you usually uninstall the packages relating to those files05:19
elfreakzPriceChild, i type firefox in terminal, it open up my firefox browser05:19
Crescendo_un_operateur, I don't know what packages those would be05:19
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luxuI use "ls" but display "Desktop Example",not I want.05:20
un_operateurCrescendo, you can use this command -- dpkg --search /path/to/filename  to find out which package houses that file05:20
Neskato23i dont know where should be that fixed font05:20
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Crescendo_un_operateur, alright, thanks05:20
thoreauputicluxu: run ls in the directory you want to see05:20
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Saxofonerun_operateur: I'M Baaaaccccck!   What was that you were saying about the reinstalling nautilus?05:20
thoreauputicluxu: or ls -al to see everything05:20
thoreauputicin that dir05:20
luxuI try it .thank you05:20
un_operateurSaxofoner, you'll need to get to the terminal and do -- sudo sh -c "aptitude remove nautilus; aptitude install nautilus"05:21
thoreauputicSaxofoner: nautilus still borked?05:21
whyameyeI need to kill a few processes on sleep then restart them on resume. What's the best way to do this?05:21
SaxofonerYEP,05:21
Crescendo_What the crap is gij?05:21
elfreakzPriceChild, ???05:21
SaxofonerIt sucks05:21
Neskato23ive reinstall all the xfonts packages, but nothing05:21
alperhey guys, how can i change the skydom of Beryl with a random wallpaper?05:21
raxiphi05:21
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un_operateur!language | Crescendo05:21
ubotuCrescendo: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.05:21
alpergot it nvm05:21
Crescendo_...05:21
ctfor1luxu: ls can also be given a directory as an argument, like ls /home/ctford05:21
PriceChildelfreakz, now reproduce the crash however you did it earlier..05:21
Crescendo_You're kidding me?05:21
un_operateurCrescendo, Its the JVM that comes with the GNU GCJ compiler05:21
thoreauputicun_operateur: if nautilus is boked he needs to purge it before reinstalling05:21
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PriceChildelfreakz, then you should get some output in the terminal which will help us05:21
berbear_what kind of things are GNOME and KDE? Is Beryl considered a window manager?05:21
elfreakzPriceChild, then?05:21
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raxipthat's a secret05:22
thoreauputicun_operateur: otherwise the config won't change05:22
luxuthank you .I succeed.05:22
un_operateurthoreauputic, purging it will get him to lose all his desktop settings -- i wouldnt do it05:22
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Neskato23so, what can I do??05:22
PriceChildelfreakz, then you give us that output05:22
thoreauputicun_operateur: not so - thse are in his $HOME and remain untouched05:22
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PriceChildelfreakz, firefox could be crashing for any number of reasons... this is a way of finding out why05:22
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Crescendo_On the last one, un_operateur - the one that works - I get "dpkg: /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java not found."05:22
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jtrucksif I update /etc/sources.list, will apt-get, apt-cache and similar commands automatically read the new sources and rebuild the cache?05:23
Saxofonerun_operateur:  thoreauputic: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38519/05:23
PriceChildjtrucks, no, first do "sudo apt-get update"05:23
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Neskato23what you guys think I should do to "repair" this?05:23
thoreauputicjtrucks: run sudo apt-get update05:23
un_operateurthoreauputic, errm, i'm not sure about nautilus as i dont use it -- but if config files are placed in $HOME they'll be purged too05:23
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jtrucksPriceChild: thanks!05:23
deep`hit here.05:23
jtrucksthoreauputic: thanks!05:23
deep`hi*05:23
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thoreauputicun_operateur: that is not my experience05:24
dintcan I disable gateway in network perference?05:24
wkerzenddoes anyone know a good hardware support channel (asus mainboard)? thanks05:24
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deep`I'm thinking of buying the new samsung x830 mobile phone, anyway of getting it to work in ubuntu?05:24
Saxofonerun_operateur:  do those errors (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38519/) make sense to you?05:24
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berbear_where do i find gconf-editor in my menu05:24
Saxofonerubuntu-desktop is BROKEN, it says...05:24
un_operateurSaxofoner, just to make sure we are on the same page -- you must have killed all desktop applications and be at the terminal05:24
simonbpwhyameye: you need to put stop and start scripts in /etc/acpi/suspend.d/ and /etc/acpi/resume.d/. You can look at the other scripts in those folders for ideas. Scripts are executed in order of lowest to highest number.05:24
elysium444I am installing cedega, whre do i find :  x-window-system-dev???05:25
thoreauputicun_operateur: personal configs must not be changed, or on a multi user system it would wreak havoc with all users05:25
Saxofonerun_operateur:  how to kill all desktop apps and still be in xchat?05:25
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deep`elysium444, sudo apt-cache search x-window-system-dev ?05:25
un_operateurSaxofoner, CTRL+ALT+F1 -- login there -- and run  -- sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop  -- then run this -- sudo sh -c "aptitude remove nautilus ubuntu-desktop; aptitude install nautilus"05:25
elysium444I couldnt find it05:25
Saxofonermeh... okay05:25
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whyameyesimonbp: thanks!05:26
ChinaskyPricey, can you tell me where in the xorg.conf do i have to put the refresh rate of my tft?05:26
elysium444deep, thats what i am doing i cant find it05:26
naliothanyone know about wireless sniffers on ubuntu?05:26
un_operateurSaxofoner, you cant -- you'll need to skip xchat for a few minutes05:26
elysium444I am using ubuntu 10.605:26
elysium4446.1005:26
thoreauputicun_operateur: removing ubuntu-desktop is totally pointless05:26
Lam_instead of #!/bin/bash, could i use #!/usr/bin/screen to write a screen script?05:26
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un_operateurthoreauputic, ubuntu-desktop depends on nautilus -- its the only reason it is included in the command05:27
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zzzerotimehi, does anyone know the best mp3 tag editor out?05:27
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Nevermore-Laphi, i wish to set gaim 2.0beta3 to send message with ctrl-enter05:27
elfreakzPriceChild, i got the error.. wait will paste it to u05:27
Nevermore-Laphow do i do05:27
simonbpnalioth: most likely, yes.05:27
PriceChild!paste | elfreakz05:27
ubotuelfreakz: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)05:27
thoreauputicun_operateur: as I said, it is totally pointless - but evidently you are far wiser than I so I'll leave you to it :)05:27
timo901eney were i can find some mouse pionters05:28
elfreakzPriceChild, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38520/05:28
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simonbpnalioth: kismet usually does what I need.05:28
un_operateurthoreauputic, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38519/  :)05:28
Neskato23a want to run a LookingGlass session but it crashes while starting with a Fatal Error: can't find default fixed  font05:28
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Neskato23what can  I do??05:28
zzzerotimeis there any good tag editor for ubuntu?05:28
zzzerotimeplease, does someone know?05:28
elfreakzPriceChild, got it?05:28
PriceChildelfreakz, yeah, but I'm not sure what's wrong05:28
simonbpzzzerotime: ID3 tags? -> easytag05:28
luxuhow to go into directory like" cd directory of windows" in the ubuntu command line05:29
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un_operateurluxu, cd or chdir05:29
zzzerotimethe thing is that it does not search freedb properly simonbp05:29
PriceChildelfreakz, I would suggest googling line 21 onwards...05:29
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PriceChildelfreakz, I'm guessing a bug with one of your plugins05:29
tristan_hey ubuntu folks05:29
Chinaskywhere in the xorg.conf do i have to write the refresh rate of my tft so i can have it in 60hz??05:29
Neskato23noone knows anything about this error --> "could not open default font 'fixed'" ??05:29
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elfreakzPriceChild, alright05:29
simonbpzzzerotime: Yeah, I suppose good is relative :) It's the best I've found for linux.05:30
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un_operateurChinasky, unless your hardware supports those rates, you musnt do it05:30
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tristan_I just installed ubuntu 6.10 - and I want to know the fastest route to support my IEEE 1394 firewire card05:30
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tristan_is there a package I can download ? or must I recompile the kernel ?05:30
darkroastdoes nautilus support dual pane view?05:30
simonbpzzzerotime: mediamonkey is my all-time favorite. It's windows only though.05:30
un_operateurChinasky, if you run this command -- you'll find out where it is -- locate xorg.conf05:30
biotroxwhich repositories can i get webmin???05:30
patriksorry for the noob question but I have tried to find an answer myself. downloaded a app and read the readme. it says after unpacking I should run "make menuconfig" but it can't find the command. googled and founfd something about libncurses but from I saw I should already have that05:30
biotrox!webmin05:31
ubotuwebmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.05:31
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whyameyepatrik: have you installed build-essential? sudo apt-get install build-essential05:31
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dint!webmin05:31
simonbppatrik: It would probably be helpful for you to install build-essential05:31
un_operateurpatrik, you probably need to run this first -- sudo aptitude install build-essential05:31
dint!info webmin05:31
ubotuPackage webmin does not exist in any distro I know05:31
trapdooranyone here who could help me setting up ubuntu on a macbook?05:32
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patrikah okay. thank you very much guys. I will install it right away.05:32
darkroastdoes nautilus support dual pane view?05:32
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Lam_how do i get ubuntu server to load a script upon booting?05:32
un_operateurdarkroast, you probably need the gnome-commander for that05:33
patrikcrontab?05:33
whyameyetrapdoor: I've done that and there are excellent instructions here: http://bin-false.org/?p=1705:33
darkroastah, thanks05:33
patrikI mean can't you put it in crontab :)05:33
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zzzerotimesimonbp, I am too lazy to write every mp3 that comes unnamed, I use ultratag editor in windows, but I dont use windows anymore, and I am sure there's a way to do that under linux05:33
Neskato23oh cmon please, why are you guys ignoring me??05:33
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frogzoo_darkroast: not afaik, and it's a pain05:33
Chinaskyun_operatour, i know where is xorg.conf is but after i have installed the nvidia driver i can only use 75 hz, and before i could change it to 60, but not know with the driver installed, thanks05:33
trapdoor<whyameye: i just followed them, but i only get a black screen when booting ubuntu, i think lilo is screwed up... but i don't know what i did wrong05:33
Saxofonerso, un_operateur, guess what?   I did that, and nautilus is still "borked"05:33
luxuI use the "ls" and display "desktop" . I use "cd desktop"  but display  " bash: cd: desktop no such file or directory"05:33
elysium444I am using ubuntu 6.10 amd64 where do i find  x-window-system-dev???05:33
patrikNeskato23: what is your question?05:34
elysium444!x-window-system-dev05:34
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shootersHi, I've downloaded a movie collection from bittorrent, and when I can't play the files... I've install w32codecs with vlc, totem and mplayer + I've automatix the DVD-AUD codecs and the multimedia codecs, but the video file still doesn't want to play, any idea how to fix?05:34
un_operateurSaxofoner, what does borked mean? how is nautilus misbehaving? can you show us a screenshot of the problem? etc05:34
Neskato23ive installed lookinglass packages for ubuntu but i cant start xsession because it crashes with these errors::05:34
whyameyetrapdoor: explain exactly what you see. Does the EFI menu come up? You select linux. Then what do you see.05:34
Neskato23Could not init font path element /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc, removing from list!05:34
Neskato23(and so on)05:34
Neskato23and05:34
Neskato23Fatal server error:05:34
Neskato23could not open default font 'fixed'05:34
Neskato23this one...05:34
luxuI want to goin the directory of desktop.05:34
jtrucksis https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MetaPackages?highlight=%28metapackage%29 all the metapackages? Is there a server metapackage?05:34
patrikah opkay. sry can't help you with that one Neskato2305:35
Neskato23but i dont know where to find the fixed font05:35
Neskato23no matter, thx anyway05:35
Saxofonerun_operateur:  Sure, I'll post a screenshot.  Borked was just the word that thoreauputic used in place of another 4 + 2 letter word.05:35
trapdoorwhyameye: i see the efi screen, i choose linux, press enter, and then... just a black screen05:35
zzzerotimetry to install mplayer using automatix05:35
zzzerotimefind automatix in google,05:35
naliothsimonbp: there a simple howto for kismet around?05:35
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un_operateurSaxofoner, that'll help05:36
zzzerotimeNeskato23,05:36
Neskato23tellme05:36
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zzzerotimeget automatix, then install from there mplayer, codecs and so on05:36
whyameyetrapdoor: do you make sure MBR/GPT maps are in sync?05:36
mnoir!automatix05:36
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe05:36
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trapdoorwhyameye: i did several times05:36
un_operateurzzzerotime, we dont advocate automatix in here -- its not a good thing to use05:37
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Saxofonerhttp://www.freewebs.com/saxofoner91/Screenshot.png un_operateur05:37
zzzerotimeit works though05:37
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zzzerotimewhy not use it?05:37
simonbpnalioth: sudo aptitude install kismet. Then read 'man kismet.conf' for instructions on telling it how to use your wireless card. If your card has linux drivers that support promiscuous mode, it should be quite easy to set up. Just a couple of modified lines in kismet.conf.05:37
SaxofonerMy desktop bg, and icons are gone, the panels work... I can't open my computer05:37
un_operateurzzzerotime, read up there ^^^05:37
Saxofoner*the file browser, "my computer"05:37
wheels3572ok im back again.  I cant get ekiga to work with my Webcam.  It's said to come here for help05:37
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zzzerotimeI have read it up, and I still insist05:38
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zzzerotimeit works05:38
elysium444where to find: x-window-system-dev?05:38
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whyameyetrapdoor: I'm fishing here...could it be an error in /etc/lilo.conf? Or would we still see LILO printed on the screen before the black screen?05:38
mnoirSaxofoner: as I recall, you were doing a major upgrade - is that correct?05:38
Saxofonerthoreauputic: hey, guess what?  We still haven't solved the problem!  http://www.freewebs.com/saxofoner91/Screenshot.png05:38
elysium444!x-window-system05:38
ubotux-window-system: transitional package for Debian etch. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu6.2 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 44 kB05:38
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RprpHI :x i installed wine, and installed a windows program, but if i do 'wine winscp' its opening, but its not in my 'menu' ? how can i fix that?05:38
un_operateurzzzerotime, it works until your system has a problem -- and then its a nightmare troubleshooting -- and thats why we dont recommend it05:38
ivanoatsoh boy... i installed KNetworkManager and lost my DCHP connection... then I did sudo remove KNetworkManager and still no connection.05:38
thoreauputicSaxofoner: looking05:38
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Saxofonermnoir:  I tried to, to edgy, but it got stopped, and now everthings messed up05:38
zzzerotimewell, that usually happens with most compilations by hand05:39
simonbpnalioth: actually, read  'less /usr/share/doc/kismet/README.gz'05:39
mnoirsax - may i pm you?05:39
trapdoorwhyameye: i don't know, i checked my lilo.conf several times, i wrote it exactly as described on bin-false.org05:39
Saxofonersure, but lemme reg my nick first05:39
Saxofonergo ahead05:39
mnoirk :)05:39
un_operateurzzzerotime, there is no compilation with automatix, what are you talking about?05:39
thoreauputicSaxofoner: what happens if you create a test user and log in as that user?05:39
SaxofonerI'll try that05:39
alperhow can I make screenshots with Beryl?05:39
RprpHI :x i installed wine, and installed a windows program, but if i do 'wine winscp' its opening, but its not in my 'menu' ? how can i fix that?05:39
zzzerotimedid you read what I said?05:39
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un_operateurSaxofoner, you could try purging the ~/.nautilus directory05:40
thoreauputicSaxofoner: there might be a personal config that's causing trouble05:40
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zzzerotimeI said that also happens with most compilations by hand,05:40
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thoreauputicun_operateur: or just moving it ( better)05:40
shooterszzzerotime: installed mplayer through automatix, but that file still doesn't want to play... is there any way to see the codec required to play (something like g-spot)?05:40
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CraZyLeGsI installed samb, shared a folder, and it's visible from a windows machine05:40
zzzerotimewell, I it does not, then I would check what codec is it using05:40
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CraZyLeGshow ever when I want to access it, it asks for a user/password05:41
CraZyLeGsI don't know what to put in05:41
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naliothsimonbp: thanks05:41
mineralehow do I turn off ipv6 ?05:41
un_operateurthoreauputic, or moving it yea :)05:41
CraZyLeGsI've put user/pass that exists in ubuntu05:41
thoreauputicun_operateur: less drastic :)05:41
CraZyLeGsdoesn't connect05:41
zzzerotimeshooters, I dont know any program under linux, guess cant help you more on that05:41
alperhow can I make screenshots with Beryl?05:41
unimatrix9Chinasky, did you read the url ?05:41
RprpHI :x i installed wine, and installed a windows program, but if i do 'wine winscp' its opening, but its not in my 'menu' ? how can i fix that?05:41
CraZyLeGsalso modified smb.conf to allow guest ok05:41
CraZyLeGsas user nobody05:42
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CraZyLeGsbut it still asks for user/pass05:42
jaszhello all05:42
ExM3th1xhi together05:42
CraZyLeGsanyone has a clue ?05:42
ExM3th1xi have a Netgear WG111v2 Usb 2.0 Wlan Stick..05:42
ExM3th1xits very bad caus i am not sure wich chipset it has05:42
ExM3th1xhttp://prism54.org/punbb/viewtopic.php?pid=645305:42
CraZyLeGsthe other machine is a winbloz xp sp 205:42
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chinaskyno, sorry, can you put it again? thanks!!05:42
ExM3th1xdoes anybody know how to find that out?05:42
zzzerotimeun_operateur, sorry to recommend automatix, for me it worked very good, but to be honest, ubuntu does not really need it,05:42
un_operateurzzzerotime, the reason we dont advocate automatix is because the number of problems arising from the use of it is high -- and it's better to avoid it if is an unstable application -- prevention is better than cure and all that..05:42
jaszhow do i play m4a files with ubuntu's Rhythmbox?05:43
saxofonermnoir:  thoreauputic un_operateur hello?  I'm on another user, it still's fubar05:43
un_operateurzzzerotime, exactly what we say too -- you can have a perfect setup without automatix05:43
zzzerotimeun_operateur, ok I get the idea05:43
thoreauputicsaxofoner: :(05:43
RprpHI :x i installed wine, and installed a windows program, but if i do 'wine winscp' its opening, but its not in my 'menu' ? how can i fix that?05:43
PriceChildjasz, are these bought from itunes' music store?05:43
thoreauputicsaxofoner: new user?05:43
shooterszzzerotime: is there a way to force a codec to be used under vlc... ?05:43
saxofonerdifferent one, I'll make another05:43
timo901any way to recodt radio using kafine platyer05:44
saxofonerhow do you log out w/ the terminal?  is it just "log out"05:44
jaszPriceChild: no, no DRM ...  (i can play them with mplayer)05:44
zzzerotimevlc has its own codecs05:44
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thoreauputicsaxin: new - to make sure it's a fresh config05:44
zzzerotimetry installing fddshow05:44
PriceChild!mpe | jasz05:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mpe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:44
PriceChild!mp3 | jasz05:44
ubotujasz: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:44
whyameyetrapdoor: i guess I'd boot into a LiveCD and try something like "lilo -b /dev/sda3"05:44
un_operateurzzzerotime, you could try thoreauputic's suggestiong -- sudo sh -c "aptitude purge nautilus ubuntu-desktop; aptitude install nautilus"05:44
thoreauputicumm not saxin, saxofoner05:44
timo9015 - 1Xtra BBC05:44
timo901Mime:05:44
timo901Audio:05:44
timo901MPEG audio layer 2 (lib: MAD) 160kb/s05:44
timo90105:44
PriceChildjasz, personally I prefer the xine route documented there05:44
PriceChild!paste | tim__b05:44
ubotutim__b: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)05:44
wheels3572un_operateur, Can you look at this and maybe give me an idea as to what is going on please http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38521/05:44
un_operateursuggestion*05:44
PriceChildtimo901, ^05:44
zzzerotimeun_operateur, ?05:44
timo901ok05:45
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thoreauputicun_operateur: in that case don't forget to reinstall ubuntu-desktop :)05:45
trapdoorwhyameye: i will, thanks for your help so far, are you sure it has to be /dev/sda3 and not /dev/sda05:45
timo901good sugestion;)05:45
thoreauputicun_operateur: and aptitude takes care of uninstalling -desktop anyway05:45
CraZyLeGsno one into samba ?05:45
winandhow do you make a regex in python that matches any string without capital letters?05:45
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un_operateurthoreauputic, same same05:45
mineraleifconfig shows a inet6 address -- some applictions try to use it by default and give me error messages - how does one disable it?05:46
zzzerotimeI have a question, has anyone had problems with filesharing between xp pro and ubuntu 6.10?05:46
PriceChildCraZyLeGs, what's your question?05:46
thoreauputicun_operateur: not quite, unless you tell it to reinstall both05:46
whyameyetrapdoor: I'm going to remote into the MacBook (it's not physically here) and see how things are set for me. At the website you did the install from, have you looked at the comments? Some people have had the same problem you have and there are some not-overly-convincing attempts at solutions but worth a look.05:46
thoreauputicun_operateur: ubuntu-desktop being a metapackage05:46
unimatrix9diner!05:46
unimatrix9bye bye everyone!05:46
un_operateurthoreauputic, its like when you install nautilus-- it depends on ubuntu-desktop -- so its going to ask you if it's ok to go ahead installing it05:46
unimatrix9:P05:46
thoreauputicun_operateur: other way round - ubuntu-desktop depends on nautilus05:47
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CraZyLeGsPriceChild: I installed samba, and it's visible from a windows machine, I shared a folder in my home dir, how ever when I want to access it, it asks for a user/password, I don't know what to put in, I put user/pass that exists in ubuntu and doesn't connect05:47
shooterszzzerotime: ffdshow you probably mean, where do I get it?05:47
thoreauputicun_operateur: so actually just installing ubuntu-desktop wou;d pull in nautilus05:48
un_operateurthoreauputic, well, ok, so its not necessary to reinstall it, is it? :)05:48
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CraZyLeGsPriceChild: also modified smb.conf to allow guest ok as user nobody, but it still asks for a user/pass, any clue ?05:48
whyameyetrapdoor: my /etc/lilo.conf looks *exactly* like the one shown on bin-false.org with /dev/sda305:48
thoreauputicumm - for upgrades it is advisable - but it isn't crucial in the short term05:48
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trapdoorwhyameye: ok, and you created 2 new partitions, /dev/sda3 as the / partition and /dev/sda4 as swap?05:49
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un_operateurthoreauputic, it all works -- installing it or not :)05:49
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jaszPriceChild: thanks05:49
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jaszi think i installed the wrong version of xchat...05:50
jasz:(05:50
jaszbrb05:50
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PriceChildCraZyLeGs, you may like to read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/configuring-samba.html05:50
whyameyetrapdoor: yes. I just confirmed the partitions in /etc/fstab. I did sda3 as reiserfs, but I don't think that should matter.05:50
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markoutthereHey guys I need help installing s3 graphics twister driver05:50
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thoreauputicun_operateur: just pointing out that depends != rdepends05:50
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markoutthereNew to Linux and woud appreciate any help05:50
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trapdoorwhyameye: ok, i'll look it up05:51
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maeanyone have this problem in edgy where on fresh install xorg (with vesa) on xorg launch i get no signal to monitor (it goes into powersave mode) -- when i hit ctrl-alt-backspace it pops up again05:51
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un_operateurthoreauputic, yes, i know -- I was saying (as you were saying) ubuntu-desktop isnt all that necessary05:51
PriceChildmarkoutthere, please pastebin the ouput of "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf"05:51
chakshi all05:51
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chaksanybody know whats the package name for gdk-x11-2.0 in ubuntu?05:52
markoutthereK 1 sec05:52
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tiedeHi everyone. I am on KDE. And I want the Logo button on my Computer to bring up the KDE menu. I have to set xmodmap -e 'Keycode 115=Menu' every time I start the computer. This is getting annoying... How do I make the PC do that itself?05:52
PriceChildmarkoutthere, i've a sneaking suspicion that its installed by default but we'll see...05:52
RopechoborraHow do i extract a .tar.gz ?05:52
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alperhow can I make beryl to let my minimized Xchat "bump" with a sound when someone highlights me? I had it working, but then resetted the settings :( hope someone can help me05:53
wheels3572Can anyone tell me if there is another Video software out there that's better then Ekiga?05:53
PriceChildRopechoborra, tar -xzf <<filename>>05:53
RopechoborraPriceChild Thanks!05:53
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PriceChildalper, probs best to ask in #ubuntu-xgl or #beryl05:53
un_operateurwheels3572, no idea mate -- all i can think of it try reinstalling ekiga05:53
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un_operateuris*05:53
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wheels3572un_operateur, according to my pastebin didn't I do everything correctly?05:54
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alperthanks PriceChild05:54
un_operateurwheels3572, well, i havent ever used ekiga -- but maybe reinstalling helps05:54
un_operateurwheels3572, do you not have any sound playback at all on your desktop -- or is that problem exclusive to ekiga?05:55
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wheels3572Oh ok.  Do you know if V4L or V4L2 is supported here in Ubuntu Kernel 2.6.17?05:55
tiedeis there a better way to change the Win_Logo key besides xmodmap -e 'Keycode 115=Menu' so I can bring up the KDE menu without having to type that everytime I login?05:55
POVaddctdcordes: hi, this is rausb005:55
PriceChildwheels3572, it is i think...05:55
thoreauputicun_operateur: not to harp on it, but in Linux uninstalling and reinstalling really changes nothing unless the config is purged ( you just end up with the same app and config on reinstall)05:55
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markoutthereI have the output pricechild, how do you want me to send that to you, how do I "pastebin" ? sorry for silly questions05:55
PriceChild!paste | markoutthere05:56
ubotumarkoutthere: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)05:56
dgmtiede, you could put that command in a startup script...05:56
wheels3572PriceChild, ok ty.  Just having a heck of a time getting my webcam to work and according to my dmesg it's set up and ready to roll lol05:56
dgm.xsession or something like that05:56
dgmgooge it05:56
tiedeI tried putting it in ~/.kde/env/winkey.sh but it does not work...05:56
un_operateurwheels3572, the only one that looks to be supported is 2.0.3-0 (I dunno how that pertains to VL and VL2, etc)05:56
PriceChildwheels3572, i have a similar webcam and have given up on it for a while05:56
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tiedeis there a reason why, dgm? I found that on a wiki...05:57
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un_operateurthoreauputic, reinstalling might help if post-installs scripts modify the behaviour of the package/program/application05:57
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dgmtiede: never heard of that file location05:57
wheels3572PriceChild, ahhhh so your in same boat as me ok lol.  damn things lol.05:57
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un_operateurwheels3572, which ekiga package are you trying out? the one from the repos? or downloaded direct?05:58
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wheels3572un_operateur, so your saying the ONLY kernel supported for what V4L or V4L2 is 2-0?05:58
wheels3572the one that came with Ubuntu05:58
tiedeMe neither. I had to create it, dgm. I guess I'll just have to put it in my .Xsession05:58
patrikanyone got a sources.list to give me for testing resp..?05:58
BlackHawkhi05:58
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thoreauputicun_operateur: how is that going to happen when the system respects the admin's configs? If the post install was wromg, it would spit out an error the first time wouldn't it?05:58
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wheels3572It was part of the Ubuntu package when I installed Ubuntu05:58
dgmnote, .Xsession may need some other things, like your window manager, if it's not there already05:59
Triplemehhow do I create a link to a file?05:59
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mnoirTriplemeh: man ln05:59
markoutthereOkay here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38523/05:59
Triplemehthanks05:59
un_operateurthoreauputic, its hard to say -- it just depends on what the post-install script does -- what it does is down to the packager and authors of the package05:59
mnoirread and understand05:59
tiedeon #kubuntu, they told me to just put an ampersand after the command, dgm...05:59
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thoreauputicun_operateur: Ok i bow to your confidence and evident knowledge ;) I shall leave you to sort out the world's problems :)06:00
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dgmtry it, be ready to remove it from a text terminal if it sdoesn't work. :)06:00
un_operateurthoreauputic, you could write your own post-install script that writes out a config file depending on varaible such as time, files, locations -- and in that case, reinstalling would almost definitely change settings06:00
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un_operateurthoreauputic, I'm not asserting i'm right, i could be wrong in the case of ekiga, reinstalling might not change a darn thing -- I was only justifying why i thought reinstalling might help06:02
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tiedeoups, got disconnected. Did you say something dgm?06:02
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johnjohn_anyone here06:03
thoreauputicun_operateur: in 3 years of using Debian and Ubuntu I have never seen a straight reinstall make a difference, but I have seen a --purge and reinstall fix things.06:03
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timo901how do i chnage xmms skins to use the one i have just downloaded ,please06:03
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TheSilentWarriorhi guys06:04
TheSilentWarrioris this the place to get help?06:04
Rookie_888 users, say hi to TheSilentWarrior06:04
d3413ryep06:04
d3413rare u german?06:04
TheSilentWarriornope06:04
d3413r^^06:04
TheSilentWarriorPortuguese06:04
d3413rdon't care06:04
thoreauputic!hi06:04
TheSilentWarriorxD06:04
ubotuHi! Welcome to #ubuntu!06:04
d3413r!hi06:04
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CraZyLeGsPriceChild: thanks, smbpasswd -a was needed06:05
d3413ri am using kubuntu but that shouldn't be a problem06:05
d3413r:-)06:05
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tds5016where can I get gmake?06:05
d3413rso TheSilentWarrior06:05
d3413r!gmake06:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gmake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:05
timo901whats the xmms dirctory06:05
d3413rhmm wait06:05
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timo901usr/local ?06:05
johnjohn_i have a problem  when i go to any site firefox closes automaticly and not minimized06:05
d3413rwhat about sudo apt-get install gmake06:05
d3413r@ tds501606:05
d3413r?06:05
tds5016ubotu, seems to have summed that up...06:05
thoreauputictimo901: ~/.xmms/06:05
PriceChildmarkoutthere, found it06:05
Naik0Hello, can i install ubuntu edgy on a 2,5 gig hdd?06:05
tds5016d3413r, it's not in there.06:05
nolimitsoyatimo901, 'whereis xmms' should help06:05
PriceChildNaik0, yes06:05
thoreauputictimo901: put them in Skins , IIRC06:06
tds5016d3413r, gmake isn't in the reps.06:06
d3413rtds what repos06:06
d3413rhave you inside your sources.list06:06
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CraZyLeGsI have ubuntu installed with win, the win partitions are mounted06:06
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thoreauputictimo901: .xmms is a hidden dir in your home directory06:06
CraZyLeGsbut I can't write in them06:06
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PriceChildmarkoutthere, right you don't have it installed.... so lets sort it out :)06:06
timo901thats were the skins also go write ?06:07
tds5016d3413r, I'm in 6.0606:07
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timo901right *06:07
george_looneyhello all06:07
naliothanyone have any idea how to get kismet running on a G3 iBook with standard airport ?06:07
biotro1!radius06:07
d3413rhmm tds06:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about radius - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:07
d3413r6.0606:07
d3413ri am usin 6.1006:07
CraZyLeGshow can I copy something to the mounted win partition for example ?06:07
biotro1!RADIUS06:07
george_looneyI am having a problem with ClamAV06:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about RADIUS - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:07
thoreauputictimo901: yes - you don't need to extract individual skins06:07
markouttherePriceChild I would love to. Where do I start?06:07
george_looney..on Dapper Drake06:07
biotro1Radius server in ubuntu using...?06:07
thoreauputictimo901: have a look in ~/.xmms06:07
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berbear_anyone got sony vaio motioneye webcam to work??06:08
tds5016d3413r, do you know of any repos for gmake on 6.06?06:08
timo901so i can just put the whole file there06:08
PriceChildmarkoutthere, I "think" that the savage driver is enabled by default on your system... just not enabled06:08
d3413rwait06:08
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george_looneyClamAV says the Enginge is outdated06:08
d3413rare you able to compile something06:08
d3413r?06:08
d3413r@ tds501606:08
thoreauputictimo901: yes, if it's only one skin06:08
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d3413rtds5016 wait a little06:08
biotroxhello.. radius in ubuntu using....?06:08
thoreauputictimo901: I think the Skins dir is "capital S"06:08
markouttherePriceChild where do I enable it that same file?06:08
george_looneyI did do an upgrade06:09
tds5016d3413r, I'm having problems compiling a program, and I think gmake might fix it.06:09
timo901i have done it than you, its wired i done this before but only with the terminal06:09
george_looneyand yet I get this error06:09
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PriceChildmarkoutthere, "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" then change line 104 (the graphics driver) to "savage" instead of "vesa"06:09
d3413rtds501606:09
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d3413rwait a moment06:09
PriceChildmarkoutthere, i NEED to prepare you on how to rescue yourself if this doesn't work though06:09
tds5016d3413r, okay.06:09
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biotrox!server radius06:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about server radius - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:10
markouttherePriceChild thanks and will that give me my full resolution back then?06:10
biotrox!radius server06:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about radius server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:10
PriceChildmarkoutthere, before you do anything... "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup"06:10
thoreauputictimo901: after putting the tarball in Skins, you might need to restart xmms ( can't remember but I think so)06:10
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PriceChildthen you make the change (while editing, ctrl+x will exit)06:10
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TheSilentWarriorback06:10
PriceChildyou then restart X with ctrl+alt+backspace06:10
PriceChildmarkoutthere, ^06:10
TheSilentWarrioris there a way to get remote help on ubuntu? like let someone else access it remotly?06:10
d3413rso06:11
d3413rtds5016,06:11
george_looneyhey biotrox06:11
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tds5016yes d3413r ?06:11
george_looneybiotrox: what are looking for?06:11
PriceChildmarkoutthere, if this doesn't work, you must then press ctrl+alt+f1 and log in, then type sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf" to restore defaults06:11
POVaddctls06:11
biotroxgeorge_looney | i'm looking for radius server in ubuntu06:11
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biotroxbeside freeradius06:11
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PriceChildmarkoutthere, then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" to get back into a graphical environment06:11
TheSilentWarrioris there a way to get remote help on ubuntu? like let someone else access it remotly?06:11
philo23when ever i try to boot ubuntu i get this error right after the ubuntu splash loading screen, /bin/sh: can't access tty; job controll turned off, any ideas06:12
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d3413rreplace your sources.list with the following lines you can find here06:12
d3413rhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38529/06:12
mnoir!vnc | TheSilentWarrior06:12
ubotuTheSilentWarrior: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX06:12
d3413rand than try sudo apt-get install gmake again06:12
george_looneybiotrox: doing an apt-cache search radius throws a lot of options06:12
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tds5016d3413r, replace which lines?06:12
d3413rall06:12
d3413rdeleted whole file06:12
zhouxuanhello,when i ./configure in python source dir. i got this message "./configure: /bin/sh^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory06:12
zhouxuan",how should i do?06:12
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d3413rand copy this in06:13
cstextilesTruying to install Edubuntu but it says There is No Ethernet card detected. But I have Ethernet Card with which i am accessing the Inetrenet06:13
tds5016d3413r, remember I'm on 6.06, and I don't want ot do an internet upgrade as well.06:13
berbear_anyone got sony vaio motioneye webcam to work??06:13
george_looneybiotrox: found radiusd-livingston06:13
tds5016d3413r, this woun't fubar anything, right?06:13
d3413r?06:13
d3413ri dont thinl so06:13
tds5016d3413r, okay.06:13
biotroxye i notice it too06:13
tds5016where can I find my repo lists again?06:13
d3413ri replaced edgy with 6.10 with dapper (6.06)06:13
d3413r;)06:13
d3413raeh06:13
d3413ri mean06:13
mnoirtds5016: /etc/apt06:14
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d3413ri replaced edgy (6.10) with dapper (6.06)06:14
biotroxyou ever use radius server..? george_looney06:14
biotrox????06:14
george_looneybiotrox: nope :)06:14
d3413rdid you replace the whole lines @ tds5016 ?06:14
cstextilesTrying to install Edubuntu 6.06 but it says There is No Ethernet card detected. But I have Ethernet Card with which i am accessing the Internet06:14
d3413romfg... i got some problem... my players are playing my music too fast >_<06:14
george_looneybiotrox: what is it that you are trying to implement, if I may ask?06:15
d3413rKaffeine und amarok play music too fast06:15
d3413rdunno why06:15
mnoird3413r: dance faster?06:15
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d3413r-.- how funny mnoir06:15
Nontitlemnoir: lol06:15
george_looneyLOL @mnoir06:15
philo23when ever i try to boot ubuntu i get this error right after the ubuntu splash loading screen, /bin/sh: can't access tty; job controll turned off, any ideas06:15
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Nontitleit's probably a problem with xine, then06:15
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LjLi've had an interrupt problem that was apparently solved by using the 'noapic' kernel parameter. now i would like to know, what does this entail? i.e. what am i losing in layman terms?06:15
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d3413rhmm06:15
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markouttherePriceChild06:16
biotroxi already use winRADIUS for my VPN Dial Up06:16
markoutthereOk What do I do06:16
d3413rtds5016,06:16
d3413r?06:16
d3413rstill there06:16
biotroxbut i want to change the radius server to linux base06:16
tds5016d3413r, what were you asking? I'm sorry.06:16
PriceChildmarkoutthere, I will write a pastebin for you then instead06:16
d3413ri asked if it works06:16
biotroxdi winradius can't save logs06:16
d3413rdid you replace the lines of your sources list06:16
tds5016nope.06:16
george_looneybiotrox: hmm, no problems06:16
d3413rwith the ones i gave u ?06:16
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Nontitled3413r: it's probably something wrong with xine, because amarok and kaffiene are just frontends06:16
tds5016d3413r, yup.06:16
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Nontitledo you have xmms?06:16
george_looneybiotrox: there are quiet a lot of documentations out there that would help you06:17
tds5016I aslo didn't apt-get update yet.06:17
biotroxya ya06:17
biotroxthx georgr_looney06:17
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d3413rtds501606:17
d3413rfirst du06:17
d3413rdo06:17
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philo23when ever i try to boot ubuntu i get this error right after the ubuntu splash loading screen, /bin/sh: can't access tty; job controll turned off, any ideas06:17
george_looneybiotrox: welcome06:17
d3413rsudo apt-get update06:17
biotroxi will read the documentations first06:17
biotrox:)06:17
tds5016d3413r, just did that.06:17
d3413rbefore you try sudo apt-get install gmake06:17
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d3413rhmm maybe there is no package....06:17
tds5016d3413r, yup, still not in the listings.06:18
Nontitlespeaking of which: how do you change the ubuntu splash loading screen, cause i just apt-get installed kubuntu-desktop and it changed from ubuntu to kubuntu, and i want to switch it back06:18
d3413rso you have to compile it on your own06:18
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tds5016d3413r, where can I find it?06:18
d3413rhttp://www.gnu.org/software/make/ @ tds501606:18
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d3413rgoogle helps ^^06:18
tds5016d3413r, that's make, not gmake06:18
chaksis there pygobject package for ubuntu?06:18
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chaksno search is yielding me a result :(06:19
Nontitlecan i ask what gmake is?06:19
avgassewhy does ubuntu lie about the presence of a bluetooth adapter? It says there is no bluetooth adapter, but that is a lie. There is a bluetooth usb dongle, without which I wouldn't be able to use my keyboard.06:19
chaksany idea?06:19
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ExM3th1xdoes somebody know a command for the terminal that shows me the mac adress of my own wlan device?06:19
philo23Nontitle: try this http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/02/20/restoring-the-ubuntu-usplash-after-a-kubuntu-install/06:19
tds5016d3413r, that's a link to make, not gmake.06:19
Pelochaks,  did you look in synaptic ?06:19
PriceChildmarkoutthere, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38530/06:19
tds5016if I'm not mistaken d3413r ?06:19
Nontitlethank philo2306:19
d3413rwait...06:19
chaksPelo , yes06:19
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ExM3th1xifconfig only shows a strange hardware id o.O06:19
tds5016d3413r, waiting.06:19
chaksPelo, am trying to compile Sabayon06:19
d3413rit is gmake06:20
d3413rnot make06:20
d3413rgmake (GNU make - called simply make on linux systems) is a tool to help you build a ...06:20
thoreauputicExM3th1x: arp06:20
d3413r...06:20
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chaksPelo, it is asking for gdk-x11-2.0 and pygobject-2.006:20
d3413rthe link is right one...06:20
avgasseis there anyone in this channel who knows something about bluetooth?06:20
tds5016d3413r, eventhough it says make, it sitll be gmake?06:20
george_looneylast06:20
chaksI even searched via apt-cache search, but no package of that name :(06:20
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ExM3th1xthoreauputic, root@ragga:~# arp06:20
ExM3th1xAdresse Hardware-Typ Hardware-Adresse Optionen Maske Schnittstelle06:20
ExM3th1x192.168.2.1              ether   00:16:38:01:3B:F0   C                     eth006:20
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nokrevHey, I'm trying to resize a partition made with the Debian installer, with the Ubuntu live cd. I think I may have screwed up originally creating the partitions, because now gparted doesn't recognize the main partitions can somebody help me avoid data loss?06:21
ExM3th1xthoreauputic, i don't think it is the mac of my wlan stick06:21
thoreauputicExM3th1x: try arp with the right address06:21
d3413rtds5016,06:21
Pelochaks,  assuming pyobject means some python object thing,  I see python sqlobject in the synaptic list06:21
ExM3th1xthoreauputic, looks like the mac of eth0 not wlan006:21
d3413rGnu Make = gmake06:21
d3413r...06:21
d3413rGNU Make.... what is the abbreviation?06:21
tds5016oh!06:21
d3413rgmake06:21
Nontitlewhats the difference between make and gmake?06:21
d3413rlogical, or dont you think so?06:21
thoreauputicExM3th1x: man arp  :)06:21
TheSilentWarriorhi, can anyone help me with this ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38531/06:22
tds5016d3413r, yeah, when you look at it from another perspective, sure.06:22
LinTuxcan you dual boot Ubuntu & Kubuntu?06:22
chaksPelo, its Python gnome bindings - you can find the sources here - http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/GNOME/bindings/2.14/2.14.3/sources/python/06:22
dv_LinTux, they are the same06:22
dv_they just have different DEs preinstalled06:22
chaksbut how come they are not there for ubuntu, when sabayon is avaialble in repos, these should be :(06:22
mnoirnokrev: exactly what have you done so far?06:22
thoreauputicExM3th1x:  arp -if wlan0  or whatever06:22
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dv_if you install kubuntu, and want gnome, install ubuntu-desktop, and you thats it06:22
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Nontitletry using ./Configure06:23
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dv_the equivalent is kubuntu-desktop06:23
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thoreauputicExM3th1x: actually -i I think06:23
TheSilentWarriorhi, can anyone help me with this ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38531/06:23
NontitleTheSilentWarrior: try using ./Configure06:23
LinTuxcheers06:23
Pelochaks,  if you have a tar you can conpile it ,  look for info here on how to do it   http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/06:23
darkkish_guys IRC is working06:23
darkkish_but i can only get aim or msn working and not both06:23
LinTuxterminal command to install standard KDE desktop06:23
darkkish_and websites aren't working06:23
ExM3th1xthoreauputic, wlan0: Unknown host?06:23
d3413ranybody got an idea to fix my xine problem06:24
d3413r?06:24
darkkish_but everything is fine on my windows ccompouter06:24
darkkish_whats wrong?"06:24
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NontitleTheSilentWarrior: then make, then sudo make install06:24
timo901Guys im trying to get my mce remote to work with xmms but cant use sudo /etc/init.d/lircd start06:24
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TheSilentWarriornontitle , says bash: ./Configure: /bin/bash^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory06:24
thoreauputicExM3th1x: do you want the router address or the local address?06:24
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Peloguys  can I re-partition my ntfs drive easily so I can back up my home folder and perform a resintall on my ext3 drive ?06:24
tds5016okay, d3413r I ./configure make make installed the thing.06:24
thoreauputicExM3th1x: plain "arp" here just gives me the mac of the router06:25
tds5016and now when I type gmake it still doesn't show up...06:25
tds5016did it replace make?06:25
tds5016or ???06:25
d3413rdunno... i dont use gmake...06:25
d3413r;)06:25
avgassehow much does it cost to get support for my bluetooth problem *and* get a 100% guarantee that the problem is completely solved?06:25
ExM3th1xthoreauputic, right06:25
Nontitleoh06:25
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{w00t}hai06:25
nokrevIs there any way to avoid data loss when resizing a ext3 partition. I'm a n00b, but gparted doesn't seem to recognize the partitions created using an LVM in the Debian installer.06:25
chaksPelo, compiled and installed pygobject :)06:25
d3413rotherwise i would also be able to solve my own problem with xine06:25
mnoirtds5016: have you tried skipping the 'g' key whilst typing the command?06:25
Pelochaks,  congrats06:26
tds5016mnoir, what do you mean?06:26
thoreauputicExM3th1x: ifconfig or iwconfig should show tha mac address for your interfaces06:26
chaksnow gdk-x11-2.0 is pending Pelo06:26
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tds5016mnoir, make shows up, and under man make gnu make shows up as the title.06:26
Pelochaks,  best of luck06:26
thoreauputicExM3th1x: have you tried ifconfig -a ?06:26
stfnnokrev: make a backup first, test that the backup works (i.e. that all your data is in the backup and you can get it back from there), then resize and if it fails, restore from the backup06:26
chaksthanks Pelo :)06:26
mnoiri mean that you have been told, given original source citations for the fact that on linux, make IS gmake06:27
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ExM3th1xthoreauputic, http://rafb.net/p/LMqItI72.html06:27
darkkish_come on guys help me with my intarnets problem06:27
nokrevstfn: hmm, seems like that's what I'll have to do06:27
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tds5016okay, I think I have gmake installed...06:27
mnoir:)06:27
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thoreauputicExM3th1x: hardwaare address should be the mac06:27
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TheSilentWarriornontitle _?06:27
thoreauputic*hardware06:27
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avgassehello, I have wasted too much time & frustration trying to get bluetooth to work. I'm fed up with it. I'm willing to dig out my wallet to get the problem solved. Let someone else waste his/her time.06:28
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ExM3th1xthoreauputic, i figured it out.... it where the first 6 bytes06:28
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ExM3th1xthoreauputic, thx06:28
xanHi, I have a problem: I installed mldonkey-server and now I can't uninstall it06:28
thoreauputicExM3th1x: np :)06:28
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avgassebecause "for free" support isn't able to solve the problem, apparently06:28
Peloavgasse,  look in system , under help,  there is a link for commercial support06:28
mnoirxan: how did you install it?06:28
Nontitleapt-get remove doesn't work?06:28
avgassepelo: thank you06:28
tds5016but... nonetheless, this still won't install, and I need help with it and I'm afraid I'm going to get banned when I say what it is eventhough it's for a legitimate purpose. I'm trying to install a botnet for a class demonstration on how they work, and I was going to attack a virtual machine with it, and then show how to defend against the attack... but the thing won't install.06:28
xanmnoir: apt-get install mldonkey-server06:29
Nontitleso you're saying apt-get remove doesn't work?06:29
mnoirmy question exactly...06:29
Peloavgasse,   not to rub it in but... if you didn,t find that commercial support link on your own,  your problem iwth setting up bleutooth is probably du to lack of research06:29
tds5016is there anyone willing to help with the compile error?06:29
xanThe output is: http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=2663506:29
Nontitlexan: use paste.ubuntu-nl.org and show us what happens when ou use apt-get remove06:30
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Nontitlelol nevermind06:30
avgassePelo: found it: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/marketplace/europe#head-0a0d8fde686207ec45f2042230e6cf75b12616e506:30
tds5016http://pastebin.com/843823 that is if anyone is interested?06:30
xanNontitle I pasted in http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=2663506:30
avgasseI have spent a total of 38hours 24 minutes (25 now) trying to solve the problem myself - It's only now that I am considering commercial support.06:31
Nontitlei know, thats why i said nevermind06:31
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xanNontitle sorry06:31
Nontitlelol its ok06:31
tds5016anyone giong to help with this?06:31
xancan you help me?06:32
mnoirtds5016: pastebin error?06:32
tds5016http://pastebin.com/84382306:32
tds5016^^ mnoir06:32
mnoirxan: sorry - I cannot read06:32
Nontitleyou have to kill mldonkey first06:32
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avgasseok tnx for the link for commercial support, I'll try that. bye!06:32
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athomasHello everybody. I have a little probleme to configure my internet connection ( wireless, with wpa encryption). i have network manager. My /etc/network/interfaces is Ok (just two lines, with Lo)06:32
TheSilentWarrioravgasse i am trying to solve this for 4 weeks now...06:32
athomascan someone help me ?06:32
mnoirtds5016: looks like a coding error - you may need to go to the author06:33
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tds5016mnoir, that's what I was thinking, but argh to that. haha!06:33
stfndid a recent update change they sort order for bookmarks in firefox?  folders used to come before bare bookmarks, now they are interleaved.  is there a firefox preference to sort folders first?  i can't find anything likely in the preferences or about:config06:33
mnoir:(06:33
xanps -aux | grep "mldonkey"06:33
xanWarning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See http://procps.sf.net/faq.html06:33
xanroot     13002  0.0  0.1   2892   820 pts/0    S+   18:33   0:00 grep mldonkey06:33
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stfn(change the ...)06:33
xanNontitle mldonkey does not run06:33
Nontitleoh06:34
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thoreauputicun_operateur: it appears saxofoner's problem was that he still has dapper sources in his apt sources (see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38519/ ) I think he updated to edgy without removing all his previous source entries06:34
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thoreauputicun_operateur: if you see him maybe you could pass that on06:34
__rob__On edgy eft what's the version of xorg?06:35
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Nontitleits ps aux not ps -aux06:35
xandpkg -l : http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=2663606:35
POVaddct__rob__: 7.106:35
xanps aux | grep "mldonkey"06:36
xanroot     13647  0.0  0.1   2728   760 pts/0    R+   18:35   0:00 grep mldonkey06:36
w3ccvstfn, bookmarks in Firefox hasn't changed. order them any way you see fit.  Manage Bookmarks or Organize bookmarks06:36
__rob__I'm getting a weird error message from fglrx.06:36
Nontitlehmmm06:36
TheSilentWarriordoes anyone here use a USB wireless connection adapter on ubuntu ?06:36
w3ccvstfn,  then drag-n-drop06:36
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stfnw3ccv: sort by name used to place folders before bare bookmarks, now they are interleaved in alphabetical order06:36
POVaddctTheSilentWarrior: yes, a d-link dwl-g122 (rev. b1)06:37
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TheSilentWarriorpovaddct how did u install it?06:37
xanI tried apt-get remove -f06:37
[A] ndy80Hi, I've a little problem with my desktop: all desktop icons have disappeared... restarting my session doesn't fix. How can I restore it?06:37
w3ccvstfn, I never sort them - I put them in MY order - most used at thetop06:37
__rob__(WW) fglrx(0): Video Overlay not supported on AVIVO based graphics cards. For XV06:37
__rob__ideo support please upgrade to Xorg 6.9 or later and use Option "TexturedVideo".06:37
POVaddctTheSilentWarrior: just loaded the rt2570 module06:37
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TheSilentWarriorit compile?06:37
__rob__If xorg is 7.1... then what's the issue?06:38
thoreauputic[A] ndy80: try killall nautilus   in a terminal06:38
TheSilentWarriorpovaddct mine doesnt compile :(06:38
POVaddctTheSilentWarrior: no, rt2570 is part of the kernel modules06:38
xanNontitle any idea?06:38
TheSilentWarriorpovaddct how do i make it work ? i am new to ubuntu06:38
[A] ndy80thoreauputic: nautilus: no process killed06:38
Nontitlesorry... i have no clue06:39
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thoreauputic[A] ndy80: erm - you are running gnome?06:39
[A] ndy80thoreauputic: it's something like nautilus was not start when my session start06:39
POVaddctTheSilentWarrior: why did you compile anyway? the rt2570 module should be there06:39
thoreauputicah06:39
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w3ccvstfn, as far as I see, sorting is only valid in the manage window06:39
thoreauputic[A] ndy80: try starting it then :)  type  nautilus &06:39
[A] ndy80thoreauputic: yes... I was only playing with themes... then probably Nautilus crashed, session was saved and... no more nautilus06:39
xanso?. Ask help for me?06:39
cmwe1!java06:39
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository06:39
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TheSilentWarriorpovaddct, be there? where? i downloaded a tar file from the net with it06:39
un_operateurthoreauputic, sure, if he comes around -- but aptitude could also be suggesting the downgrade if the older .deb is in /var/cache/apt/archives ??06:40
xanAny who can help me? ;-(06:40
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philo23when ever i try to boot ubuntu i get this error right after the ubuntu splash loading screen, /bin/sh: can't access tty; job controll turned off, any ideas06:40
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emiliathe folders in my home directory turned into files? i cant access any of my stuff? anyone feel like helping me?06:40
[A] ndy80thoreauputic: ok, my icons are back :D06:40
[A] ndy80thanks ;)06:40
thoreauputicun_operateur: maybe - but i suspect his sources are borked06:40
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thoreauputic[A] ndy80: :)06:40
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POVaddctTheSilentWarrior: it should be somewhere under /lib/modules/<your_kernel_version>06:40
thoreauputicun_operateur: he could try sudo apt-get clean to sort out his cache06:41
LinTuxwhat is the best web design package for Ubuntu?06:41
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POVaddctTheSilentWarrior: try modinfo rt2570 to see if it is installed06:41
emiliaalso all my files are 0 bytes?!!06:41
emilia:(06:41
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philo23when ever i try to boot my pc i get this error right after the ubuntu splash loading screen, /bin/sh: can't access tty; job controll turned off, any ideas06:41
TheSilentWarriorpovaddct, ok, will check, but how do i make it connect wirelessly? how do put the wireless password or even select the station06:41
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thoreauputic[A] ndy80: make sure you save your session :)06:41
__rob__Does anyone know why xvideo won't work with fglrx?06:41
POVaddctTheSilentWarrior: you didnt say you were using encryption06:41
xanNontitle ?06:41
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Nontitlei have no clye what to do06:42
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Nontitleclue*06:42
POVaddctTheSilentWarrior: also you didnt say which wireless usb adapter you have06:42
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xanWow!!!06:42
[A] ndy80ok06:42
xan:-(06:42
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un_operateurthoreauputic, errm, I dunno if mixed sources will make that much of a difference because apt will install the package with the higher revision anyway -- but yea, it's a good idea to stick to one release nonetheless06:42
TheSilentWarriorpovaddct sorry, i thought that those rt2570 were like drivers, and then i would need to have another program to see stations and stuff, like windows06:43
LinTuxbest web design package for Linux06:43
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thoreauputicun_operateur: you notice that ap was trying to downgrade nautilus06:43
thoreauputic*apt06:43
__rob__Any xorg guru's out there?06:43
un_operateurthoreauputic, I do yes06:43
thoreauputicun_operateur: which suggests that the siurces are wrong06:43
thoreauputic*sources06:43
TheSilentWarriorpovaddct i have a conceptronic 54mpbs ubs adapter, c54ru06:43
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thoreauputicun_operateur: ie it couldn't find the edgy version06:44
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POVaddctTheSilentWarrior: first you have to check which chipset you have in the conceptronic usb adapter06:44
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TheSilentWarriorpovaddct http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38532/06:45
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thoreauputicun_operateur: to clarify - it couldn't find the newest version06:45
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TheSilentWarriorpovaddect can you guide me? i think i have the right ones, because i searched for it, and the ones i have are for this model06:45
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POVaddctTheSilentWarrior: the modinfo output has nothing to do with the chipset on your adapter06:45
DeeJayHello, I have just installed Ubunto and I was wondering why root can't logon to the gnome system?06:46
POVaddctTheSilentWarrior: it just tells you that the rt2570 module is there06:46
gharzguys... i have xp & ubuntu installed in my machine. i've a file in linux that i want to copy/paste in my xp system. how do i do that? xp is using ntfs format.06:46
mnoirDeeJay: logging on as root is frowned upon06:46
thoreauputicDeeJay: security - you know about sudo, right?06:46
samernHi- I need help getting Firefox 2.0.0.1 on ubuntu 6.06 LTS06:46
philo23when ever i try to boot my pc i get this error right after the ubuntu splash loading screen, /bin/sh: can't access tty; job controll turned off, any ideas?06:46
DeeJaythoreauputic:  yes i do06:46
thoreauputicDeeJay: youshould not run the GUI as root06:47
eriksaysokay -- question06:47
DeeJayBut how do I use the "Network Configuration" tool in Gnome then?06:47
TheSilentWarriorpovaddect ok, but i am trying to give all the info possible, because i dont really know how this works, since i am new, all info i can get is a help for you to understant my problem xD06:47
thoreauputicDeeJay: you type in your user password06:47
__rob__Anyone out there familiar with xvideo and fglrx?06:47
POVaddctTheSilentWarrior: try lsusb when the adapter is plugged in06:47
DeeJaythoreauputic:  It doesnt promt for a password06:47
samernI need help getting Firefox 2.0.0.1 on ubuntu 6.06 LTS06:47
thoreauputicDeeJay: it should06:47
Lam_how do i get ubuntu server to load a script upon booting?06:47
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jman_gharz: trying mounting your NTFS parititon, and then copying and pasting the file?06:47
mnoirDeeexactly what command are you running06:47
TheSilentWarriorpovaddct ok, have 2 usb devices06:48
__rob__Lam_:  You can put it in /etc/rc.local06:48
w3ccvTheSilentWarrior, I came in in the middle, can you connect to an unexcrypted AP06:48
DeeJaythoreauputic: I have not changed anything at all, just installed Ubuntu... When I try to get into the configuration it will give me this: Configuration could not be loaded: You are not allowed toa ccess the system configuration06:48
__rob__well... modify that script.06:48
eriksaysi have a harddrive setup as a slave -- it used to be a master drive and still have the filesystem structure in place that it had as a master06:48
TheSilentWarriorw3ccv how?06:48
POVaddctTheSilentWarrior: can you put them on pastebin?06:48
eriksayscan i just start deleting directories fromthat drive with now problems?06:48
Lam___rob__: ok thanks06:48
gharzjman_, i can't paste a file from linux to my windows... but i can copy/paste files from xp to my ubuntu.06:48
thoreauputicDeeJay: try gksudo network-admin06:48
DeeJaythoreauputic:  Oh I think it has added a user called "oem" for those purposes06:48
w3ccvTheSilentWarrior, I guess the answer's no - never mind06:48
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samernFirefox 2.0.0.1 on Ubuntu 6.06, can someone help?06:48
DeeJaythoreauputic:  okay I will, thank you06:48
thoreauputicDeeJay: ah you did theoem install06:48
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Lam___rob__: i don't have to log in for the script to autoload, right?06:49
un_operateurthoreauputic, errm, packages work on revision numbers not release candidates i.e. package-2.0.3ubuntu.deb  not  package-2.0.3edgy.deb  -- its so different releases like edgy and dapper might use the same package in the pool (rather than have different names and take up additional space)06:49
eriksaysi would just re-format the whole thing but there are files i want to keep06:49
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DeeJaythoreauputic:  yes?06:49
thoreauputicDeeJay: you probably need to create a user with sudo privileges06:49
TheSilentWarriorpovaddc, one is just 00000:00000 i think its not important, the other one is Bus 001 Device 002: ID 14b2:3c2206:49
__rob__Lam_: That's correct.06:49
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whyameyegharz: I've had mixed experiences writing to an NTFS volume from Linux. Instead I'd but into WinXP and use Explore2fs: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm06:49
Lam___rob__: ok great. thanks a lot06:49
DeeJaythoreauputic: oh...06:49
Nontitlehaving firefox on your computer isn't a problem06:49
DeeJaythoreauputic:  any chance you can tell me how to do that?06:49
whyameyegharz: *boot06:49
jman_gharz: trying to doing at as root: su cp <source file> <directory where NTFS is mounted06:49
philo23when ever i try to boot my pc i get this error right after the ubuntu splash loading screen, /bin/sh: can't access tty; job controll turned off, any ideas?06:49
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whyameyejman_: doesn't the standard ntfs driver for linux only work read-only?06:50
samern Firefox 2.0.0.1 on Ubuntu 6.06, can someone help?06:50
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thoreauputicun_operateur: *sigh* how is the apt tool supposed to find the latest package if the repo isn't in the sources.list06:50
Nontitlehaving firefox on your computer isn't a problem06:50
TheSilentWarriorpovaddc , ubuntu is plug and play compatible right? it will detect it even if i plug it in while ubuntu is running06:50
jman_whyameye: I thought they improved so you could rw?06:50
psYchotichello. In gnome, I have set my multimedia keys up, and they work, except for the fact that my volume keys change the volume of the wrong mixer. How would I fix that?06:50
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thoreauputicun_operateur: I'm not a newbie06:50
whyameyejman_: maybe. That would be great!06:50
ValmarkoMerry Christmas to all Humanity !!06:51
thoreauputicun_operateur: think about it06:51
samernNontile: I know, but I can't find a .deb for FF 2.0.0.106:51
DeeJaythoreauputic: Can you help me make my user "deejay" able to enter the configuration tools?06:51
TheSilentWarriorValmarko, thx, merry xmas to u too :)06:51
un_operateurthoreauputic, because apt downloads the particular dists Packages.gz .. and the contents of it point the .deb to a location within a pool06:51
Nontitleyou have to install firefox from source i believe06:51
thoreauputicDeeJay: does "oem" have sudo rights? i haven't done an oem install06:51
samernNotitle: can you please help me do so ?06:51
POVaddctTheSilentWarrior: yes, but there is not a linux driver for each and every piece of hardware (thanks to the ignorance of the h/w manufacturers)06:52
DeeJaythoreauputic: I think so, yes06:52
thoreauputicun_operateur: you haven't geasped what I'm saying, and you are wrong in this case, sorry06:52
hjmillswhat is the wine support channel?06:52
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DeeJaythoreauputic:  Oh, I just need to put my self into the "Admin" group it seems06:52
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TheSilentWarriorpovaddct, i know xD thats why i need help06:52
POVaddctTheSilentWarrior: i googled a bit for that usb id. it seems the adapter has the ralink rt73 chipset06:52
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un_operateurthoreauputic, i know you arent a newbie and i don't say you are -- think about it, how do you save space on a repository yet still get the various distributions to use packages at the latest support revisions06:52
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thoreauputicDeeJay: then add the new user to "admin" group06:52
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TheSilentWarriorpovaddct, thats about right, i think thats exactly what i found06:53
DeeJaythoreauputic: I will try usermod my own user to use the admin group06:53
emiliadoes anyone know the chmod command to change something to a directory?06:53
markouttherePriceChild It didnt work what it did was take away my 1024x768 resolution and put me on 800x600, my problem is that i need much higher res but I am sure having the correct driver will give me those options. Any further suggetsions?06:53
Nontitledl the .tar.gz from mozilla.org then put it into a directory and use ./configure and then make and then sudo make install06:53
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emiliai did chmod -hR 644 on my whole home directory by accident06:53
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POVaddctTheSilentWarrior: so why didnt you tell me it is rt73 and not rt2570?06:53
PriceChildmarkoutthere, so you're now on the savage driver? :D06:53
geohas the kde desktop got a volume control?06:53
markoutthereNo I rolled back06:53
thoreauputicun_operateur: How on earth do you imagine that apt can find an edgy package if the edgy rep for the pacjkage isn't configured? I mean, really...06:53
__rob__directories need the 'x' priviledge.06:53
DeeJaythoreauputic:  wont work tho... If i shouldnt install it as OEM, what else then for workstation purposes?06:54
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markouttherePriceChild no I rolled back06:54
thoreauputicDeeJay: sorry, I have no experience with the oem install06:54
TheSilentWarriorpovaddct ops, isnt those the drivers that are compatible with alot of devices, including rt73 ?06:54
PriceChildmarkoutthere, argh :(06:54
thoreauputicDeeJay: visudo to config the sudoer's file06:54
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DeeJaythoreauputic: But how would you suggest I install it? I mean, what to chose instead of OEM06:54
markoutthereShould I be back on savage?06:54
PriceChildmarkoutthere, hmm I'm not sure how to install the savage driver then... and we need to do that first06:54
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chrissturmis it possible to install ubuntu on a software raid 1 ?06:55
POVaddctTheSilentWarrior: no, rt73 is a separate driver, directly from ralink. fortunately, ralink is a manufacturer who cares about linux.06:55
__rob__emilia:  find -type d /home/<user> | while read dir; do chmod u+x g+x $dir; done06:55
PriceChildmarkoutthere, did you get an error when you used savage?06:55
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thoreauputicDeeJay: just use the default install method - which CD are you using?06:55
PriceChildmarkoutthere, or did you get graphics?06:55
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markoutthereNo errors, just no options for higher res06:55
PriceChildmarkoutthere, OK that's great :D06:55
TheSilentWarriorpovaddct :) ok, will try to find the driver, will ask for help when i find it ok?06:55
markouttherePriceChild Yes I had rgraphics but onlu at 800x60006:55
emilia__rob__ : whats the package i need to use my mouse in console? so i can copy paste that?06:55
DeeJaythoreauputic: Hmm the image is on my unmounted drive, but its ubuntu-alternate something06:55
PriceChildmarkoutthere, right I need you to follow my instructions again06:55
markouttherePriceChild ok06:56
un_operateurthoreauputic, maybe you don't see where i am coming from? just what defines an edgy package? and in regards to saxoner -- he could have both the edgy and dapper sources listed, who knows?06:56
POVaddctTheSilentWarrior: rt73 is not included in ubuntu, that one has to be built from source. you need packages build-essential and kernel source for that.06:56
markouttherePriceChild I will do that and be back when they are done06:56
PriceChildmarkoutthere, when you get to choosing resolutions... make sure that whatever resolutions you want are enabled.... space selects, enter moves to the next page06:56
hjmillsis there a way to specify a max number of failed login attempts over ssh?06:56
thoreauputicDeeJay: the alternate CD will install if you just hit "enter" at the first screen06:56
__rob__emilia, I used to know that....06:56
DeeJaythoreauputic: Hmm okay, i'll have a look at it06:56
samernFirefox 2.0.0.1 HELP please.06:56
PriceChildmarkoutthere, ok/06:56
Nontitledl the .tar.gz from mozilla.org then put it into a directory and use ./configure and then make and then sudo make install06:57
markouttherePriceChild where do I choose that in the X11?06:57
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emilia__rob__ i obviously dont type done ?06:57
PriceChild!ask | samern06:57
ubotusamern: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)06:57
thoreauputicun_operateur: no, he most likely has most of the edgy lines, but some are missing06:57
aledI'm installing the ATi graphics driver and it says you can install the control panel but it's not nadvised as it is buggy...how elese would I change settings? I.e. like dual screens?06:57
stfnw3ccv: from #firefox: < Peng> stfn: Try going to Bookmarks -> Manage Bookmarks, and then View -> Unsorted in the window that comes up.06:57
__rob__Yes.... you do.06:57
TheSilentWarriorpovaddct linux-headers-2.6.17-10_2.6.17-10.33_i386 and linux-source-2.6.17_2.6.17-10.33_all right ?06:57
PriceChildmarkoutthere, didn't I give you a command which takes you through it?06:57
emilia__rob__ omg thank you so much06:57
Nontitle!firefox06:57
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins06:57
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samernnontitle: ./configure does not work06:57
hjmillsso if an ip attempts to login say 5 times then it will block that ip for an hour or so?06:57
PriceChildmarkoutthere, sudo dpkg--reconfigure xserver-xorg06:57
PriceChildmarkoutthere, just like before06:57
POVaddctTheSilentWarrior: certainly not 2.6.17, as you are running 2.6.1506:57
__rob__emilia, replace "<user>" with your username.06:57
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thoreauputicun_operateur: it is impossible for the installer to make a clean install unless all the needed lines for edgy are there06:57
instantDoes anyone here know if there is a way to remote control ones mobile through bluetooth?06:58
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emilia__rob__ it keeps saying cannot access g+x no such file or directory06:58
markouttherePriceChild That command give me this error : sudo: dpkg--reconfigure: command not found06:58
TheSilentWarriorpovaddct those files i downloaded, on a .deb package, its a problem having them?06:59
__rob__emilia, whoops... sorry my bad.06:59
stfnw3ccv: after that I am able to right-click on any bookmark in the bookmark manager or in the bookmark side bar and select "Sort By Name" and all bookmarks and folders will be sorted folders first, then bookmarks.  I must have selected a different sort order in the bookmark manager some time.06:59
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orangeflywhy can't i connect to us.archuve.ubuntu.com....???....06:59
PriceChildmarkoutthere, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:59
__rob__emilia:  find /home/<user> -type d | while read dir; do chmod u+x g+x $dir; done06:59
PriceChildmarkoutthere, only one dash sorry06:59
MWS_guys, I'm at a bit of a worrying stage. Lastnight, I installed ubuntu 6.10 RC.. Now, everything went fine and I was happy. Well, I fell asleep and the laptop was still on.. it was very hot and at the time I was doing a big update...  It froze and obviousely was like that for sometime. I had to turn my laptop off and I done so.. The next time i started up - i noticed the hard drive was...06:59
MWS_...*Totally* ruined! every block was ruined and I tried everything to fix it, but no help. Well, I just decided that the HD had enough and it's fair enough because I abused the HD quite a lot. So, I've now bought another one and finally just finished installing ubuntu 6.10 RC. The HD is very nice and quiet, and I've yet to fix my bcm4318 wifi card drivers. Should I be worrying that the...06:59
MWS_...updates might ruin this new hd?06:59
POVaddctTheSilentWarrior: why not install the appropriate kernel-source package with apt-get?06:59
TheSilentWarriorpovaddct, didng have net on portable pc, but a friend lend me a PCI MCIA for net07:00
TheSilentWarriorpovaddct, now i can, how ?07:00
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POVaddctTheSilentWarrior: i dont know the exact package name, and i have no ubuntu system right now to look at07:00
orangefly-->why can't i connect to us.archuve.ubuntu.com....???....07:01
POVaddctwhat is the name of the kernel source package for dapper?07:01
orangeflyarchive....07:01
instantDoes anyone here know if there is a way to remote control ones mobile through bluetooth?07:01
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mnoirMWS_: just curious why you didn't start with the proper RELEASED 6.10?07:01
emilia__rob__ same error07:01
thoreauputicorangefly: s/archuve/archive  ?07:01
TheSilentWarriorpovaddct, ok, synaptic has it right ? will try to find07:01
emilia__rob__ and /home/emilia is still a 0byte file :(07:01
hjmillsMWS_: if you feel confident open up the laptop and clean out the ventilation ducts and get rid of all the dust07:01
timo901trying to get my mce remote to work http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/84383507:01
timo901pls help07:02
POVaddctTheSilentWarrior: yeah, just make sure you get the matching version. compare to "uname -a" output.07:02
MWS_mnoir: Oh, I just didnt bother downloading it again.. I mean, the RC *is* the final anyway, I wasn't aware of any changes07:02
orangeflyi meant archive....07:02
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__rob__emilia:  find /home/<user> -type d | while read dir; do chmod gu+x $dir; done07:02
thoreauputicoops07:02
MWS_hjmills:  I think the HD just had enough... The laptop is very clean and I don't let it overheat.. well, only lastnight that I forgot07:02
__rob__emilia,  if at first you don't succeed07:02
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MWS_brb07:03
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orangeflywhat can cause an archive to just time out....???....07:03
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__rob__orangefly, lots of things07:04
emilia__rob__ omg i think it worked07:04
thoreauputicorangefly: did you check the spelling :) ?07:04
__rob__emilia, That should have only modified the directories.07:04
thoreauputicorangefly: I can ping us.archive.ubuntu.com, so i guess it's up :)07:04
emilia__rob__ it kept showing my folders and saying no such file or dir, but now i can cd to it07:04
emilia__rob__ how do i fix my files?07:04
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orangeflyi can't even do apt-get install update07:05
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emiliaorangefly its apt-get update07:05
thoreauputicorangefly: that's  apt-get update07:05
__rob__emilia:  find /home/<user> -type f | while read file; do chmod gu+rw $file; done07:05
timo901sudo apt-get install update -f07:05
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markouttherePriceChild it is asking me for video cards bus identifier07:06
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__rob__emilia, Is that close?07:06
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timo901http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/84383507:06
PriceChildmarkoutthere, just leave EVERYTHING you don't understand as it is07:06
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timo901mce remote07:06
PriceChildmarkoutthere, only change the driver and the resolutions07:06
PriceChildmarkoutthere, remember  space selects, enter moves to next page07:06
TheSilentWarriorpovaddct ok, downloading07:06
root___i need help getting ubuntu working again, i just installed windows on a seperate partition, tried to reinstall grub via grub command line and now my pc wont boot ether ubuntu or windows07:06
markouttherePriceChild OK07:06
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orangeflythat's what i meant....it's not a spelling error or anything....07:07
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IndyGUnFreakdoes anyone know how to change the default icon for a particular file type(say, mp3 for example), without changing them all one a ta time.., its an icon I have downloaded07:07
aledI'm installing the ATi graphics driver and it says you can install the control panel but it's not nadvised as it is buggy...how elese would I change settings? I.e. like dual screens?07:07
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slickyhow do i convert a bin to a iso ?07:07
emilia__rob__ its doing somehting07:07
thoreauputicorangefly: it's possible the archive is being updated - try again a bit later07:07
philo23i need help getting ubuntu working again, i just installed windows on a seperate partition, tried to reinstall grub via grub command line and now my pc wont boot ether ubuntu or windows07:07
thoreauputicorangefly: or use a different mirror07:07
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emiliaits listing all my files, but saying chmod cannot access, no such file or dir07:08
n2diyphilo, install Windows, and then linux.07:08
derFlohi07:08
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emilia__rob__ its listing all my files, but saying chmod cannot access, no such file or dir07:08
emilia__rob__ but thats what it said about the folder, and it changed them07:08
derFloi need a software like Daemon Tools on windows, i want to mount CD images.07:09
thoreauputicorangefly: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive/OfficialMirrors07:09
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__rob__emilia, are you the same user as the owner of the file?07:09
philo23n2diy: how do i get my files off linux now then?07:09
orangeflyty....07:09
w3ccvslicky, what is is it you want to do? put a binary file on a cdrom?07:09
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cstextilesTrying to install Edubuntu 6.06  but it says There is No Ethernet card detected. But I have Ethernet Card with which i am accessing the Internet What i s the solution?07:09
n2diyphilo23: Boot from the Ubuntu CD, and copy them to something.07:10
IndyGUnFreaklol, cstext07:10
dead1ockHello07:10
slickyw3ccv:  mount a .bin file.. av got the .cue file aswell..07:10
raxiphello07:10
emilia__rob__ it worked, i just used nano on one of my txt files07:10
IndyGUnFreakcstext, are you saying it doesn't see your ethernet card, but you're getting online(in LInux)?07:10
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__rob__emilia, excellent.07:10
n2diyemilia: congrats.07:10
philo23n2diy: i'm on live cd atm, but i cant mount my HDD, it says "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1"07:10
emilia__rob__ im the worst pc user everrrrrrr07:10
TheSilentWarriorpovaddct ok, installing07:11
cstextilesNo I am getting online though Knoppix Live CD07:11
__rob__emilia, No... that would be my mom.07:11
IndyGUnFreakoh, ok...07:11
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IndyGUnFreaki was just chuckling at that thought.07:11
w3ccvsladen, what is a .bin file?  what is a .cue file - *nix doesn't care about 'extensions' - names don't mean much07:11
Acuhey guys - If I have SMB4K and Samba installed - I see the Windows Computer however when I try to connect to the share it tells me NT-STATUS_ACOUNT_Disabled (or something like this)  any hint how to bypass this anoying block?07:11
emilia__rob__ no she wouldnt of done chmod 644 on my home dir07:11
cstextilesI mean it is detecting Ethernet Card but not Edubuntu07:11
raxipnot sure07:11
dead1ockok07:11
cstextilesWhat to do?07:11
w3ccvslicky, , what is a .bin file?  what is a .cue file - *nix doesn't care about 'extensions' - names don't mean much07:11
__rob__emilia, she wouldn't have done chmod -R 644 on her home dir... true.07:12
TheSilentWarriorw3ccv its a Nero Burning Rom way of making CD Images07:12
thoreauputic!bchunk07:12
ubotubchunk: CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-1 (edgy), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB07:12
n2diyphilo23: I don't know what to do.07:12
__rob__emilia, but she would visit dancinghamster.com07:12
w3ccvsladen, sri not meant for yuou07:12
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w3ccvTheSilentWarrior, Ahhhh07:12
philo23n2diy: thanks any way07:12
emilia__rob__ im going to try and get to gui and see if it works, then come back here, thanks!!!07:12
slickyw3ccv: its a image file..07:12
thoreauputicw3ccv: see ubotu above07:12
w3ccvTheSilentWarrior, AFIK that's a windows thing07:12
TheSilentWarriorw3ccv yup xD07:13
aledun_operateur: you there?07:13
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un_operateuraled, aye :)07:13
__rob__fglrx and xvideo?  Anyone having trouble with that?07:13
mots<mots> does anyone here have devilspie knowledge?07:13
mots<mots> http://irc.linuxlovers.at/users/~mots/devilspie.tar.gz07:13
mots<mots> <mots> it's supposed to hide all gimp-windows from the taskbar (except the images one), and to maximize the image07:13
mots<mots> <mots> but it doesnt actually do anything07:13
philo23does any one know how to mount the ubuntu partition on HDD in live cd?07:13
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TheSilentWarriorw3ccv the .bin is the data, the .cue is the info on wat it is, how to mount/burn it, etc07:14
__rob__philo23, do you know the partition?07:14
aledun_operateur: thank you so much :D I installed that ATi driver and followed the guide and I can now use the log on screen and that erro doesn't come up but I still encounter an error that happend before07:14
philo23__rob__: the number, type; what about it07:14
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markouttherePriceChild you are a genius. Thanks for your help I am all up and running now, really enjoying Ubuntu.07:14
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__rob__philo23, open a term:07:14
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philo23__rob__: i know, but it give me this:  wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda107:15
un_operateuraled, which error comes up now?07:15
TheSilentWarriorpovaddct almost done, this pc is slow xD 5 year old portable pc07:15
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__rob__philo23 is it formatted?07:15
philo23__rob__: yes07:15
philo23__rob__: i just checked it under gparted now07:16
aledun_operateur: got a photo again from before: http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b134/einsteinshamster/STA60027.jpg that's what hapeens when I try to login normally07:16
philo23__rob__: its ext307:16
n2diy_rob_, he installed Ubuntu, and then Windows.07:16
LP396hi, i was trying to install ubuntu 5.04 on a pentium 307:16
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mots<philo23> try mount -t ext307:16
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philo23mots: still the same error07:17
un_operateuraled, from the terminal -- run this -- ls -l /etc/profile   -- tell us what you get07:17
aledun_operateur: ok will do07:17
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Lam_how can i script a screen session to start up upon boot?07:17
motsnobody with devilspie-knowledge?07:17
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LP396but it stops in sicronizing clock with  hardware clock07:18
POVaddctLam_: you can start screen in detached mode from a init script07:18
aledun_operateur:  I get -rw--- (etc) 1 root root 369 and a date07:18
cstextiles Trying to install Edubuntu 6.06  but it says There is No Ethernet card detected. But I have Ethernet Card with which i am accessing the Internet What is the solution?07:18
__rob__philo23, try this:  cat /dev/hda1 | file -07:18
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un_operateuraled, ok, you need to give other users permissions to read -- sudo chmod a+r /etc/profile07:19
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Lam_POVaddct: sounds like what i'm looking for. how do i go about doing that? i'm trying to load one command in my screen session: rtorrent07:19
aledun_operateur: ok :)07:19
PriceChildmarkoutthere, good to hear :D07:19
POVaddctLam_: like this: su -c "/usr/bin/screen -d -m command_to_run_in_screen" - username07:19
aledun_operateur: shall I just try to login again now?07:20
philo23__rob__: it returns: /dev/stdin: ERROR: error while writing to temp file (No space left on device)07:20
un_operateuraled, yes please :)07:20
POVaddctLam_: put this line a in a existing init script or write a new one and symlink to it from you default runlevel dir07:20
Lam_POVaddct: is the su -c necessary? what does it do? and this will load upon boot without the need to log in if i place it in /etc/rc.local, right?07:20
PriceChildmarkoutthere, maybe you could register on wiki.ubuntu.com and make a little wiki entry for enabling your savage driver? All that was guesswork and it wo uld be nice for others to have a point of reference07:20
LP396how to stop sncronizing clock from start?07:20
POVaddctLam_: su -c ... - username is for running the screen session as non-root07:21
__rob__philo23, I can verify that my partition is in fact an ext3 partition by doing that.    I get /dev/stdin: Linux rev 1.0 ext3 filesystem data (needs journal recovery)07:21
LP396i cant enter ubuntu07:21
Lam_POVaddct: ah that's a good idea lol. i'll do that. thanks a lot for the help07:21
philo23__rob__: does this mean my partition is corrupt?07:21
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aledun_operateur: thank you so much I really do appreciate your help and has hlped me learnt a lot and makes me want to learn a lot more with Linux and the CLI...now do you know anything about dual screens? :D07:21
POVaddctLam_: you can later do   screen -r   as that user07:21
un_operateuraled, did that work alright now?07:21
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POVaddctLam_: so you can watch and control the session07:22
__rob__philo23, not necessarily .. live cd's are weird.07:22
un_operateur!xinerama | aled07:22
ubotualed: xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo07:22
Lam_POVaddct: ok, great. thanks :)07:22
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aledun_operateur: yup, got my normal screen back with the resolution I wanted :D07:22
POVaddctLam_: screen just rocks! :)07:22
philo23__rob__: how else can i go about this then07:22
__rob__philo23, Do you have a /dev/hda1?07:22
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philo23__rob__: yes07:22
un_operateuraled, glad to hear that :)07:22
aledun_operateur: thanks for the link as well07:22
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__rob__philo23, How about a /dev/stdin?07:22
Takuyahey guys.. I've been following a bunch of guides and my wireless card just won't work properly. It's a BCM4306. I've used it many times before with other distros and ndiswrapper. I installed the drivers (bcmwl5.inf and bcmwl5.sys) and it just doesn't let me configure it.07:22
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un_operateuraled, yw07:22
Lam_POVaddct: lol yeah definitely07:22
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philo23__rob__: hda1 is ubuntu, hda2 is windows and hda3 is the ram space07:23
aledun_operateur: I'm guessing I can find stuff about networking and the CLI around the ubuntu wiki and help pages?07:23
gop!kde07:23
LP396i get a slave hdd error at start press f1 to resume, then ubuntu stops at clock sincronice07:23
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE07:23
philo23__rob__: not ram phyical, fake ram, like windows paging file07:23
POVaddctLam_: the finest console tool ever. i use it with my own .screenrc with nice hardstatus bar.07:23
thoreauputicTakuya: if you are using ndiswrapper, you need to disable the bcm43xx driver07:23
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thoreauputicTakuya: i think there's a wiki on it, see ubotu below07:23
thoreauputic!wifi07:23
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:24
TakuyaYeah, I just did that btw.07:24
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TakuyaI disaled the bcm43xx driver already07:24
thoreauputicTakuya: ah07:24
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Takuyait displays something different in iwconfig07:24
Takuyabut it still won't work07:24
__rob__philo23, dd if=/dev/hda1 | file -07:24
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Takuyaessid is "" and key is ""07:24
un_operateuraled, ubuntu as you know is mostly a desktop distro for the beginner user -- so the stuff you find in the wiki's is probably starter stuff or just that essential to help solve user problems .. if you want to learn you might want to explore further07:24
Lam_POVaddct: a hard status bar would be neat. is that a simple command flick in screenrc?07:24
thoreauputicTakuya: then I don't know. I installed bc43xx with firmware on a mac iBook07:24
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POVaddctLam_: wait, i'll paste it07:24
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Takuyandiswrapper -l displays bcmwl5 : driver installed hardware present07:25
philo23__rob__: dd: opening `/dev/hda1': Permission denied07:25
philo23/dev/stdin: empty07:25
POVaddctLam_: hardstatus alwayslastline "%?%{wb}%-Lw%?%{Yb}%n*%f %t%?(%u)%?%?%{wb}%+Lw%?%{wb}%=%c"07:25
__rob__philo23, sudo07:25
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thanhlongco ai la ng viet nam ko07:25
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philo23__rob__: k07:25
POVaddctLam_: a bit cryptic, though :)07:25
Lam_POVaddct: lol obviously.  thanks again :)07:25
aledun_operateur: hmm, ok, I'm mainly interested in setting up and administrating a network for fun really, so maybe I'll need to find a better networking based distro. You know the dual screens thing, it requires me to edit the xorg.conf file and I'm afraid I'll undo the changes I did before07:25
phatlip_can ubuntu partition an os x drive?07:25
phatlip_i want to install on my powerbook - but keep my os x install as well.07:26
philo23__rob__: /dev/stdin: ERROR: error while writing to temp file (No space left on device)07:26
mutantealed: make a backup copy of the conf file before?07:26
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ZambeziWhich is the best application for playing movies in Ubuntu?07:26
daggerxxine07:26
thoreauputic!vn| thanhlong07:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:26
thoreauputichmm07:26
thanhlongyes07:26
aledmutante: good idea, so rename it, make a new one and if all goes wrong rename the original again to xorg.conf in the CLI?07:26
mutantealed: sure, yes07:27
thoreauputicno vietnamese channel?07:27
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TakuyaIt won't let me change the settings of my card...07:27
mutantealed: cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.orig07:27
__rob__philo23, hrm.07:27
TakuyaI ran sudo iwconfig eth1 essid MYESSID key MYKEY07:27
n2diyubotu, vietnamese07:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vietnamese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:27
Takuyaand it won't save them.07:27
whyameyeAm I understanding that people are advising aled against ubuntu for network admin? Weird...07:27
un_operateuraled, you probably learn best if you do things step by step -- eg a web server one day, nfs another, mail, etc etc -- as for xorg.conf -- make a backup of it before editing it -- and just go for it -- you need to make a few mistakes :) whats the harm in trying if you have a contingency ? :)07:27
__rob__philo23, do that with /dev/hda207:27
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thanhlongchannel vn07:28
thanhlong?????????//07:28
aledwhyameye: no I just said that sorry lol07:28
thanhlongwhere07:28
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thanhlongname???????07:28
[-Frost-] Hi07:28
philo23__rob__: bash: cd: /dev/stdin: Not a directory, just tried cd to /dev/stdin, seems it doesnt exist07:28
exsdoes anyone know how to safely remove all of office apps?07:28
thoreauputicthanhlong: appears not to exist07:28
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aledun_operateur: good point, I'll learn from my mistakes anyways :)07:28
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aledmutante: what does that do? Copy it and rename the copy?07:28
un_operateuraled, i'm sure you will :)07:28
__rob__philo23, ls -al /dev/stdin07:28
mutantealed: yes07:28
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aledah ok :)_07:29
philo23__rob__: /dev/stdin: ERROR: error while writing to temp file (No space left on device)07:29
mutantealed: then you can edit xorg.conf, and if things go wrong, copy it back the other way around07:29
philo23__rob__: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 2006-12-23 17:55 /dev/stdin -> /proc/self/fd/007:29
thanhlongyou say07:29
daggerxim trying to send a quotation to a file using echo... how do i do that?07:29
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aledmutante: genius thanks :P07:29
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un_operateurdaggerx, echo "\""07:30
saxofonermnoir: Hey, everything seems to be hunky dory.  Thanks for your help!07:30
__rob__philo23, mount | grep proc07:30
un_operateursaxofoner, you the one with the nautilus problem no?07:30
saxofoneryep07:30
daggerxie i want to put      option "composite" "0"  in a script to write it to xorg.conf07:30
TheSilentWarriorpovaddct hi, finished installing07:30
w3ccvmutante, an SE from Sun once advised me to "mv xorg.conf xorg.conf.orig ; cp xorg.conf.conf xorg"  That will preserver all permissions, owners, goups, times  of the original file. These could be important. You loose them on a copy07:30
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philo23__rob__: proc on /proc type proc (rw)07:30
philo23procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)07:30
gopany one here know07:30
gopwhy I keep getting this error07:30
gop Virtual ethernet                                                   failed07:31
gopUnable to stop services for VMware Workstation07:31
TheSilentWarriorpovaddct it needs a reboot, so, be right back ok?07:31
un_operateursaxofoner, well, we were going through one of the pastebins you posted -- seems like you might have a potential problem07:31
mutantealed: listen to what w3ccv said :p07:31
un_operateursaxofoner, you on edgy right?07:31
saxofonerun_operateur:  That interruption of the upgrade I told you about, it was apparently fatal, so I totally reinstalled Ubuntu.  I'm on Dapper.07:31
gopI am unsure I did but after a reboot vmware is down07:31
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saxofonerIt's allll good now.07:31
aledmutante: ah ok thanks :)07:31
un_operateursaxofoner, you reinstalled?? :o07:31
aledw3ccv: thanks :)07:31
__rob__philo23, I'm thinking it's just a livecd issue.07:31
saxofonerun_operateur:  Yep.  I have a dual-boot system, so all my data is intact07:31
gopI keep getting error with vmware07:32
philo23__rob__: then how can i back up all my stuff with out mounting the hdd07:32
|thunder!paste07:32
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)07:32
thoreauputicsaxofoner: looked like you were missing some lines in  /etc/apt/sources.list ( you had dapper lines in there)07:32
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__rob__philo23, you weren't using lvm, were you?07:32
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philo23__rob__: lvm?07:32
un_operateursaxofoner, ahh well, nevermind then -- we found out why you probably couldnt upgrade totally -- you still had sources for dapper in your sources.list and your edgy sources probably werent complete07:32
w3ccvaled, most of the time everything works, but this for that extra safety in case it doesn't  Some file for security depend on certian permissions.07:32
thoreauputicsaxofoner: but if you reinstalled dapper, so be it :)07:32
__rob__philo23, logical volume manager07:33
saxofonerthoreauputic: Yeah, I was planning on doing it soon anyway, so it's all good.07:33
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saxofonerI like getting a clean start every now and then07:33
philo23__rob__: not sure if i did, but i think i didnt07:33
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__rob__philo23, You have a knoppix CD lying around?07:33
philo23__rob__: want me to look at GParted?07:33
un_operateursaxofoner, that practise usually only happens in the windows world :)07:33
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philo23__rob__: nope :(07:34
philo23__rob__: my other pc doesnt have a cd burner ether07:34
__rob__philo23, and you're using the ubuntu live cd.07:34
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timo901can any one help in controling xmms player using my mce remote07:34
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philo23__rob__: yes07:34
un_operateur!mce07:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mce - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:35
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darkping all07:35
__rob__philo23, I'm going to boot into the livecd ....07:35
darkto all of ya ubuntu users07:35
admin_Here is dmesg for my SD card, It wont mount, I think i have to  reformat it, but how would I do that since I dont even know if  its mounted? http://pastebin.com/84384707:35
darkso waz up07:35
philo23__rok07:35
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TakuyaI have done all the steps to get the driver and card ready for use with ndiswrapper, but none if my settings stick07:36
un_operateurtimo901, any idea what the make of the remote is?07:36
Takuyaiwconfig and ifconfig both show 'eth1' but I can't actualyl use it07:36
saxofonerun_operateur:  really?  Hm... That reminds me, I should check if Windows can still boot... :-P07:36
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TakuyaI've tried running iwconfig eth1 essid MY_ESSID key MY_KEY07:36
Takuyaand it just doesn't work.07:36
timo901un_operateur:its called the new verision ,07:36
whyameyeTakuya: is the ESSID of the router hidden?07:36
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Takuyait shouldn't be. let me check.07:37
timo901model 103907:37
mm2000_laptophello, any idea how to install nxserver in an easy way? (apt-get)07:37
Takuyano it is set to broadcast it07:37
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phatlip_Takuya: using sudo?07:38
Takuyayep07:38
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un_operateurtimo901, is this it? http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MCE_Remote07:38
w3ccvTakuya, is your AP running WEP07:38
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Takuyayeah07:38
Takuyamy router has 64 bit 10key hex07:38
thoreauputicTakuya: do you have gnome-network-manager installed ? It can conflict with the traditional methods07:38
timo901http://www.eirikso.com/images/MCE-Remote-Media-Center.jpg07:38
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[GuS] hi!07:39
Takuyanope, thoreauputic only gnome-network-preferences07:39
timo901yeh07:39
w3ccvTakuya, try entering your key in the format nnnn-nnnn-nn07:39
timo901version 207:39
thoreauputicTakuya: OK07:39
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timo901un_operateur:i have tryed that07:40
timo901i get an error about my directorry07:40
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un_operateurtimo901, ok, saying what?07:41
Takuyaany ideas?07:41
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Takuyathe frequency is correct too07:42
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timo901un_operateur: first i cd to /usr/src/lirc-0.8.007:42
timo901them make07:42
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timo901then make install07:43
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un_operateurtimo -- are these the instructions as per the INSTALL file in the same directory??07:43
Takuyameh this is just not working lol07:43
un_operateurtimo901, because usually you need to run a ./configure first  -- and there might be other steps you need to take07:43
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cstextileslTruying to install Edubuntu 6.06 Server  but it says There is No Ethernet card detected. But I have Ethernet Card with which i am accessing the Internet07:44
instantTakuya, Have you tried "sudo iwconfig eth1 enc YOUR_KEY"07:44
hjmillsanybody play half life 2 or ne steam games on cedega with ubuntu/07:44
Feral_KidI am getting ready to switch back to 6.10 64-bit... If there a way to take the dpkg -l listing and use that to automatically re-install all of my packages?07:44
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timo901un_operateur:i had done that ,sorrry i wasnt very clear07:44
un_operateurtimo901, why don't you have a try now -- see what errors you get, i'd like to see how it works too :)07:44
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Takuyano but it didn't do anything when I did07:45
Takuyabut then it had the wrong frequency07:45
__rob__philo23, Okay... I just booted into it and it worked for me.....07:45
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Takuyawhat is the order I should use iwconfig commads in?07:45
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timo901./configure workes ok07:45
Takuyaiwconfig eth1 essid ESSID enc KEY channel CHANNEL07:45
Takuya?07:45
philo23__rob__: weird, i've done it before, but now it wont07:45
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__rob__philo23, what's your swap partition.07:46
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un_operateurtimo901, first things first -- read the README and INSTALL files07:46
philo23__rob__: what do you mean?07:46
timo901i think i know were i was going wrong07:46
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thoreauputicFeral_Kid:  sudo dpkg --get-slections > listfile07:46
timo901i did read it lol07:46
thoreauputicoops07:46
__rob__Do you have a swap partition for ubuntu?07:46
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un_operateurtimo901, they'll have information on any obscure steps you might need to take07:46
__rob__philo23, Do you have a swap partition for ubuntu?07:46
philo23__rob__: /dev/hda3 is extended and /dev/hda5 sits inside it as swap07:46
timo901You will have to use the lirc_mceusb2 kernel module.07:46
timo901Now enter 'make' and 'make install' to compile and install the packa07:46
thoreauputicFeral_Kid:  dpkg --get-selections I meant07:46
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__rob__philo23, Okay.... sudo swapon /dev/hda507:47
Takuyawhen I run iwlist eth1 key07:47
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thoreauputicFeral_Kid: you can use --set-selections from that file07:47
Takuyait has my key available under 1 and tramist key is set to 107:47
timo901un_operateur:i have found a file that relates to my tv-card remote07:47
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philo23__rob__: swapon: /dev/hda5: Device or resource busy, if your trying to mount it, i think its already, if i go by GParted, it says its locked07:48
philo23__rob__: my swap is 2.58 gb, if that makes a difference07:48
Feral_Kidthoreauputic> Thanks, so I first get need to do a 'dpkg -l  > files.txt and then when I re-load my 64-bit, I then do the ' dpkg --get-selections files.txt?07:48
philo23__rob__: i can mount the windows HDD partition, but not the ubuntu one07:48
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thoreauputicFeral_Kid: no, use  sudo dpkg --get-selections > filename07:49
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thoreauputicFeral_Kid: you can look at that file - you will see the list07:49
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Takuyait looks to be set and everything.. but it just won't use the essid or something07:49
thoreauputicFeral_Kid: it's all in man dpkg :)07:49
n2diyI have a laptop which currently has FC1 installed on it, and I'd like to install Ubuntu on to it. The system won't boot from the CD drive, and it has no floppy drive, ideas?07:49
stefgFeral_Kid: sudo dpkg --get-selections > selections.lst ... then read it back with dpkg --set-selections < selections.lst07:50
__rob__philo23, I'm thinking it's corrupted.... I thinking about how to prove whether or not it is.07:50
bulmern2diy: can it boot from a usb?07:50
philo23__rob__: i hope it isnt, theres alot of stuff on there i need07:50
TakuyaI've tried everything.07:50
thoreauputicFeral_Kid: dpkg --set-selections is the reverse IIRC07:50
n2diybulmer: nope07:50
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philo23__rob__: and i have around 80% backed up07:50
w3ccvTakuya, I suggest turning the encryption on the WAP off tiellyou can connect - try one problem at a time. Dont leave it that way for long - keep others out .07:50
n2diybulmer: no usb ports07:50
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see-gn2diy: you can probably install Ubuntu from within a chroot environment? I've never done that but people say it works...07:51
__rob__philo23, There's always fsck07:51
w3ccvTakuya, s/tiellyou/ till you/07:51
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Takuyabut I have like a lot of other computers connected through WEP07:51
POVaddctn2diy: if it has no usb ports, its rather old, right?07:51
philo23__rob__: fsck?07:51
bulmern2diy it wont boot because it never had or it does not have a cdrom?07:51
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n2diyPOVaddct: umm, yes.07:51
POVaddctn2diy: how much RAM does it have?07:51
philo23!fsck07:51
ubotufsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot07:51
acceptCan someone please send me the OpenOffice.org Ubuntu default icons. The ones that are like a little circle? Please!?07:52
n2diyPOVaddct: 196  meg07:52
POVaddctn2diy: okay07:52
Takuyawhen I run iwconfig it says eth1.. and everything is correct but the ESSID07:52
Takuyathe key, frequency, and mode...07:52
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POVaddctn2diy: it does not boot from cd at all or just not from the ubuntu cd?07:52
bulmern2diy: you can attempt a network install..assuming your nic card can handle boot over pxe07:52
FluxARHello folks, I have a problem in my Ubuntu 6.10. Every time I run some Python scripts I get a dialog saying "Warning: Mailcap file /etc/mailcap, line 45: incomplete entry ignored." ... What can I do? Thank you!07:53
Takuyaand when I run scan it doesn't find anything07:53
n2diyPOVaddct: Bios doesn't support booting from CD.07:53
__rob__philo23, fsck /dev/hda107:53
stefg!smartbootmanager07:53
ubotuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto07:53
w3ccvTakuya, oh,  can you do without them for a while, just long enough to test  your Ubunto connections.  Something ot think about.  Uncucomented - the key looks like it should be in the format nnnn-nnnn-nn (or nnnn-nnnn-nnnn-nnnn-nnnn-nnnn-nn for 128bit)07:53
Feral_Kidthoreauputic & stefg: Thanks, I just looked at the file generated and now I understand!!! Cool, this will save me a lot of heartache... Will happens to the true 32-bit applications, for instance Skype, Gizmo and Flash...07:53
acceptplease07:53
accept:(07:53
POVaddctn2diy: hmm. and no floppy either, thats bad. how was fc1 installed?07:53
Takuyapccardctl ident shows nothing btw.07:54
n2diybulmer: I can't get the network card working. :/07:54
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Takuyayeah w3ccv it shows up like that in iwlist07:54
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Takuyaencryption key: XXXX-XXX-XX07:54
thoreauputicFeral_Kid: I assume any inappropriate files just won't install07:54
bulmern2diy: it seems about time for a newer laptop..07:54
w3ccvTakuya, good.07:54
n2diyPOVaddct:  I put a minimal dos system on it, and then ran Fedoras install script off the cd.07:54
philo23__rob__: its says "Group descriptors" but its only just started, still running, i'll give you it all in a paste bin in a sec07:54
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__rob__philo23, did you install windows after ubuntu?07:55
POVaddctn2diy: and how did you install dos? what were you booting from?07:55
un_operateurFluxAR, you could see why line 45 of /etc/mailcap is incomplete -- and take it from there07:55
philo23__rob__: yes, unfortunatly07:55
n2diyPOVaddct:  floppy disk, the CD and Floppy share the same bay, so it is one or the other.07:55
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acceptcan someone please...07:55
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POVaddctn2diy: i see07:55
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Feral_Kidthoreauputic> Well, I can deal with that... I always seem to have issue with rebuilding 32-bit application on 64-bit... It is a damn shame... I blew away 64 just in order to get fglrx working correctly... Now I am ready to go back to 64- bit edgy..07:56
n2diybulmer: I'm looking for a cheap fix07:56
thoreauputicFeral_Kid: have fun :)07:56
bulmerokay07:56
Takuyamy bus looks ok, with 0 being linked to 1 and 2.07:56
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stefgn2diy: that's nasty...07:56
POVaddctn2diy: there is a boot manager (sbm) that can be installed to hard disk allowing to boot from cd even if the bios does not support it07:56
philo23__rob__: i've noticed it says "/dev/hda1 was not cleanly unmounted, check forced."07:56
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un_operateurn2diy, have you checked this out ?  http://www.underhanded.org/papers/debian-conversion/remotedeb.html07:57
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Dj-Deathhi all07:57
SF100Hi can someone help me out?07:57
POVaddctn2diy: http://btmgr.sourceforge.net/download.html07:57
n2diyPOVaddct: roger on sbm.07:57
Dj-Deathis there the s2ram utility in ubuntu ?07:57
SF100I was playing with screen savers and when I was looking through the choices I clicked on "Molecule" on the preview window it says "Constructing molecules..." and just hangs and allows me to do nothing else. I cannot access or do anything except move the mouse. No menus or anything, I powered down and when I went back to screen savers it is on Molecule and does the same thing. How can I change the screen saver without going into this screen s07:57
__rob__philo23, that's good.07:57
n2diyun_operateur: no I haven't, I'll go have a look now.07:57
__rob__philo23, did it say ext3?07:57
philo23__rob__: it also asks if i want to "Free blocks count wrong for group #1 (0, counted=1)."07:57
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philo23__rob__: it doesnt say atal07:58
timo901POVaddct:hi07:58
philo23__rob__: then saying if i want to correct it07:58
POVaddcthi timo90107:58
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timo901hows it going man07:58
__rob__philo23, before you answer yes...07:58
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lunaphytehi07:58
Lam_how do i set the time correctly in ubuntu server?07:58
__rob__philo23, put what you have in a pastebin07:58
POVaddcttimo901: well, i am at my parents place over christmas07:59
POVaddcttimo901: and they have dsl and wlan here :)07:59
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timo901POVaddct:You have no shame man07:59
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whyameyeSF100: the things I would try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure <name-of-screensaver-package>. If that doesn't work, completely remove then reinstall the screensave package w/ synaptic.07:59
FluxARun_operateur, thank you very much! I solved my problem!!! Thanks!07:59
tonyyarussoLam_: ntpdate07:59
SF100whyameye: thanks ill try that now08:00
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timo901POVaddct:you wouldn't go if they didn't have any Internet08:00
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philo23__rob__: k08:00
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POVaddcttimo901: hehe, no i would. but earlier this year i fixed the wireless connection for them.08:00
Nontitle!seamonkey08:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about seamonkey - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:01
KeenEarshey there =)08:01
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Nontitlehas anyone with firefox 2.0 tried going on gmail lately?08:01
Lam_tonyyarusso: i run that and it syncs and all, but upon reboot, it doesn't stick08:01
timo901POVaddct:your not fooling any one.08:01
philo23__rob__: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/84385508:01
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tonyyarussoLam_: hmm...that's odd08:02
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timo901POVaddct:i have some lirc problem here man08:02
__rob__philo23, Yes... it looks like it is in fact corrupted.08:02
POVaddcttimo901: i don't know anything about lirc08:02
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__rob__philo23, so fsck is now the proper path.08:03
philo23__rob__: should i try rebooting now?08:03
billytwowillyso, I don't see an explicitly smp kernel. Is the default kernel in edgy smp enabled?08:03
__rob__philo23, No.08:03
Shocka311Any one know how to increase my cash size?08:03
philo23__rob__: what now then?08:03
dwightintxIve got a freshly installed desktop machine that Im trying to access the gui from a windows machine, I have vnc-server installed , and I installed realvnc on the windows box, but when I launch the viewer, I get a blank screen.  What things should I check.  or is my approach wrong?08:03
whyameyebillytwowilly: it is in dapper so I imagine it is in edgy...08:04
idlemindshocka311: your CACHE size?08:04
POVaddctaway bin wech08:04
POVaddctoops08:04
Shocka311CACHE i mean08:04
Lam_tonyyarusso: maybe i'm using it wrong. this is what i entered: $ sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org08:04
KeenEarsgo to the bank08:04
__rob__philo23, well... at this point it looks like you may have possibly lost data.08:04
idlemindshocka311: do you mean something like your "swap" partition (windows term: page file)?08:04
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timo901damn I'm off to google again08:04
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philo23__rob__: i just tried mounting HDA1, it worked08:04
tonyyarussoLam_: I don't know the particular server, but yes, 'sudo ntpdate server.address' is correct.08:04
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philo23__rob__: i'll go check out the damage08:04
dan2is there a package for java6 in ubuntu yet?08:04
Lam_tonyyarusso: ok i'll just play with it some more. thanks for the help08:04
timo901http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/84383508:04
KeenEarscan someone remind me how i can tune samba by means of gnome ? forgot which app makes it08:05
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__rob__philo23, lost blocks are usually in lost+found08:05
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dwightintxcan anyone help me with a vnc issue?08:05
Shocka311I don't know really.  my computer is real slow so I added some ram and I read somewhere that on linux adding ram won't help alone, you also have to increase your cache size.08:05
philo23__rob__: it seems all my important stuff is availible, i'll back it up then install windows then ubuntu again08:05
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philo23__rob__: would that be ok?08:05
__rob__philo23, yes... that would be appropriate now.08:06
Takuyaok so.. it just won't use my essid. lol08:06
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__rob__philo23, I think if I remember correctly windows mucks with all partitions even ones that it doesn't install to.08:06
lunaphyteafter i did an apt-get dist-upgrade, apt-get dist-upgrade says "the following packages have been kept back:", and a bunch of python packages are listed.  why is this?08:07
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SF100whyameye: thanks again I got it08:07
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KeenEarsand also - can i delete openoffice - it asks to uninstall ubuntu-desktop too =(08:07
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SF100have a happy holiday everyone08:07
auk_lunaphyte, this is because some versions have compatability issues with other packages08:08
ecastrohi, im just trying to install ubuntu edgy but when i reach the step where i have to define the different mount point for each partition i cant continue because the installer says "no root file system", but i have already set one partition with "/" mount point08:08
philo23__rob__: thanks for the help, you've let me sleep easy tonight, knowing all my stuff is safely backed up08:08
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__rob__philo23, np08:08
KeenEarswhat fs on / ?08:08
auk_lunaphyte, it's best to fix those sort of errors in the long run, or else you may get real problems later on08:08
n2diyPOVaddct: SPM is in the repos, and the latest version no less!08:08
n2diySPM/SBM08:08
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lunaphyteauk_: how can i determine where the compatibility issues are?08:09
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Takuyahmm this is flumoxxed.08:09
philo23__rob__: would there be a way to back up my deb package lists?08:09
auk_lunaphyte, run apt-get upgrade (notice there is not dist-)08:09
ecastroanyone?!08:09
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mipshi08:09
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auk_lunaphyte: err, i don't know how to specifically determine the conflicts08:09
lunaphyteauk_: it says the same thing if i do apt-get upgrade08:09
__rob__Yes.... thought I'm not a dpkg expert.  The trick is to tell dpkg the new root directory.08:09
Shocka311idlemind: my computer is real slow so I added some ram and I read somewhere that on linux adding ram won't help alone, you also have to increase your cache size.08:09
philo23__rob__: thanks, i'll google it08:10
__rob__there's also a manpage.08:10
philo23__rob__: i just needed the name (dpkg) :P forgot it08:10
lunaphyte--ignore-hold ?08:10
TakuyaI followed like 3 or 4 of these darned wireless networking guides08:10
Takuyanone of them work fully. :/08:10
rpereiraShocka311: That's wrong!08:10
idlemindshocka311: ahh; that should've increased performance some; RAM helps speed up your computer in certain scenarios; what's your processor speed?08:10
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TakuyaI KNOW my card works because I've used multiple distros including linux from scratch with it08:10
Takuyaand I've used ubuntu before.08:10
crowley1027has anyone had problems with the myspace music player running linux?08:10
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__rob__any fglrx and xorg experts out there?08:11
agentwhat ibm keyboard keys correspond to mod2 and mod3?08:11
Shocka311Pentium 308:11
whyameyecrowley1027: you have flash9 installed?08:11
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rpereiraShocka311: I've already increase my pc performance creating Swap on Pendrive.08:11
n2diywhat is the syntax to tell apt-get to get a package, but not install it?08:11
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__rob__How about fglrx and xorg amatuers?08:11
crowley1027flash --versin?08:11
TakuyaIf I can't get it I might just use a different distro. :|08:11
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crowley1027flash --version?08:11
exsguys, how do i safely and easily back up my system?08:11
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KeenEarsthere`s a channel for gl08:11
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Shocka311Rpereira: how do you do that and what does that mean?08:11
KeenEarsaixgl iirc08:11
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crowley1027how do i check my flash version08:12
__rob__Actually it's the xvideo extension.08:12
agentTakuya: if you had the card working with LFS then it should be pretty straightforward to get it working with ubuntu, yes? if worse comes to worse, just repeat the steps from LFS :)08:12
n2diyexs, for a bare metal recovery, or just to save your stuff?08:12
Takuyalol, agent I did it all from CLI and usually it works fine.08:12
Takuyabut for some reason iwconfig won't take my essid08:12
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crowley1027How do I check my flash version?08:12
Takuyawhoa.08:12
Takuyathe interface changed08:12
Takuyanow it's wlan008:12
agentTakuya: :D08:13
Takuyawell that might be a good thing I think.08:13
Takuyalols. it was eth1 before08:13
rpereiraShocka311: The slowest device in our computer is our HD. So if you increase memory, you will stop using SWAP on HD.08:13
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agentTakuya: its goofy like that... not even sure what exactly assigns these things... whether its the module or something else08:13
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crowley1027How do i check my flash version??08:13
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n1gken2diy: Have you read the apt-how-to ?08:14
Takuyabut it still won't take the essid08:14
Takuya:/08:14
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petafileI"m running linuxmint and I restarted my computer and It looked like it was checking the filesystems, but then it hung.  It said checking root fs, OK, then fsck version /info then it gave me some modprobe warnings about a blacklisted ipv6 modules and then it seemed to hang08:14
agentTakuya: what module are you loading?08:14
rpereiraShocka311: Of course your Cache is faster than your RAM, but the difference between HD and RAM is stupendus....08:14
Takuyandiswrapper?08:14
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n1gken2diy: I have it here somewhere and it is most helpful.08:14
n2diyn1gke, nope, I'm busy reading IRC. :)08:14
crowley1027how do i check my flash version?08:14
agentTakuya: oh.... then i have no clue.. never used ndiswrapper08:14
Takuyalol.08:14
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stefgrpereira: keep in mond thta flash memory a.) is slower than hd b.) has a limited number of read-write cycles... it's generally a bad idea using flash memory for swap08:14
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thoreauputiccrowley1027: how did you install it?08:14
n1gken2diy: Okay OM, here is Myrton in Hope, RI. FN42fr and also using APRS.08:15
crowley1027not sure08:15
crowley1027i think without the terminal.08:15
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agentTakuya: ndiswrapper is like wine... for the "ooops i buy hardware that only works in windows" crowd ;)08:15
crowley1027i don't know if i have flash9 or not08:15
crowley1027how do icheck?08:15
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rpereirastefg: Flash memory is faster than my HD.08:15
Takuyayeah I know08:15
ecastroplease help! i totally stucked!08:15
w3ccvn1gke, here is w3ccv - mike in Columbia MD08:15
rpereiraI have a PC (not my notebook) that has a ATA disk 10GB.08:16
Takuyaagent, I've used ndiswrapper for like 3 years on totally different distros08:16
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n2diyn1gke, rr, Lansford, PA FN20bt, the APRS software was just fired up.08:16
Takuyafrom slack to LFS to ubuntu08:16
thoreauputiccrowley1027: if you installed it using apt/synaptic etc, it isn't the beta 9 version afaik08:16
Takuyabut it just won't work on edgy eft08:16
Takuyaand I'm about to give up lol08:16
Shocka311Rpereira: I have a 10 gig HD and I just tried to add a slave HD but I'm having problems accessing the slave. I've formatted it several times and it leavs a lost and found file from before the format and It won't let me erase it. It won't let me write anything to it or even look at the file.  It says I am not the owner and I do not have permission to view or change the file.08:16
rpereirastefg: I have a PC (not my notebook) that has a ATA disk 10GB.08:16
crowley1027i dont think i did it that way.08:16
agentTakuya: you compiled it from source, right?08:16
crowley1027i don't know :'(08:16
crowley1027how do i upgrade to flash908:16
thoreauputiccrowley1027: also there's a recent one on the adobe site that came out in November IIRC08:16
n1gkew3ccv: Greetings and salutations from RI OM.08:16
Takuyaagent no08:16
agentTakuya: is the wlan card removable?08:16
TakuyaI installed it from CD.08:16
Takuyayeah it's a PCI card08:16
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crowley1027thoreauputic: can you give me the link to install flash9?08:17
agentTakuya: 1) try to compile it or 2) get newest version from repo08:17
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crowley1027thoreauputic: and tell me how to remove the old flash before i install flash9?08:17
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agentTakuya: but if its removable, just replace it with a normal linux friendly card and be done with it - heck, you can even sell it after you get the new one08:17
hjmillsanybody play half life 2 or ne steam games on cedega with ubuntu?08:17
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agentTakuya: its just easier like that :)08:17
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w3ccvShocka311, lost+found is mormally 700 root.  No need for anybody else to use it.08:18
Takuyaagent not THAT easy, my dad bought it with his money for all our comps. :p08:18
rpereiraShocka311: You have to create a directory as root and set permission to you... Do you want to do using Graphical Interface or Terminal?08:18
TakuyaI might have the wrong .sys dirver though08:18
Takuya*driver08:18
TakuyaI'll try reinstalling it from my CD08:18
agentTakuya: or if you want encouragement, do what i did, "accidently" step on and throw your windows hardware ;P08:18
thoreauputiccrowley1027: it depends how you installed it ( removal) the linux flash beta is available from http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer9/08:19
rpereiraShocka311: Lost and Found is ok on EXT partition.08:19
Takuyalol08:19
agentTakuya: i see, well, having the correct driver would help ;)08:19
crowley1027i installed it by downloading the package.08:19
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rpereiraShocka311: And like w3ccv said, it's ok that permission.08:19
violotWhy doesn't Alt+F2/Alt+F1 and whatnot change ttys anymore?08:19
Shocka311Rpereira: if you can guide mw through it i'd love to use terminal.  I'm trying to learn how.08:19
KeenEarspeople ! can i delete openoffice org and not ruin my desktop ?08:19
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agentTakuya: i had my hardware destruction day years ago.... now i never buy any non-linux friendly hardware and and am missing nothing08:20
h3xisKeenEars, yes08:20
KeenEarstried to force it with dpkg -r but no success08:20
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n1gken2diy: Have we worked b/4 via c.w. ?? Your QRA is very familiar. . .08:20
thoreauputiccrowley1027: if you installed with the package manager , uninstall the package. If not, look in the directory you installed it to ( either ~/.mozilla/plugins or the global directory for firefox plugins08:20
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kitcheviolot: it does your probably in X which needs ctrl+alt+F108:20
KeenEarsit tries to delyte ubuntu-destop08:20
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n2diyn1gke, same setup here dual 333mhz PIIIs.08:20
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agentKeenEars: yes, just remove it... it will remove ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop but those are just empty packages there to make sure everything is installed when you upgrade08:20
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violotkitche, that doesn't work08:20
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LinTuxwhat is the best HTML WYSIWYG editor for Linux08:20
Takuyafound the cd08:21
n2diyn1gke, unlikely, I don't work much CW.08:21
n1gken2diy: Cool. I have a HP Kayak, dual 750 Mhz CPU and dual monitors.08:21
petafileAny idea what's causing my comp to hang at boot?  Its after fsck and a warning about blacklisted ipv6 module.  When I hit ctrl-alt-delete it says processes rc5 and rc6 were killed by signal 15, then it runs fine08:21
violotkitche, nevermind, my bad08:21
violotThanks08:21
violotXD08:21
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KeenEarsok08:21
agentLinTux: what is the best chocolate?08:21
n1gkeMust be anothe diy then.... ..08:21
KeenEarsthanx. i used to think it`s metapackage but wasn`t sure08:21
rpereiraShocka311: OK. What is the name of your partition, or better where is mounted?08:21
LinTuxok then agent which do you recommend08:21
n2diyn1gke, hardware here is IBM MPro Intellistation, stand monitor setup.08:21
thoreauputicLinTux: you might like nvu08:21
agentKeenEars: thats what a metapackage is: empty package that makes sure other packages are installed08:21
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Shocka311Rpereira: I've tried to use the graphical interface to reformat it with /root as the acessable08:22
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thoreauputic!info nvu08:22
ubotunvu: Complete Web Authoring System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0final-2ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 8373 kB, installed size 26448 kB08:22
Shocka311Rpereira:  I don't know, how do I look at that?08:22
KeenEarsthnx again. what a crowdy room08:22
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LinTuxcheers08:22
n1gken2diy: rgr08:22
Shocka311Rpereira: I'm way new to linux08:22
agentLinTux: none really, i do it by hand (professionally) - but try nvu, ajunta, etc. search the ubuntuforums there are a ton of threads about this08:22
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rpereiraShocka311: Like... /dev/hdb1 mounted on /myfiles08:22
Shocka311Rpereira: ah, let me look08:23
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hjmillshow come in gnome when looking at the network with nautilus sometimes (often) the icons dont appear and i cant connect but when i refresh they sometimes load and then it works?08:23
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rpereiraShocka311: Let's go pvt... OK?08:23
n1gken2diy: I can't wait to upgrade the dual video card here, it is just way too cool.....08:23
idlemindlintux: if i use anything besides VIM i would recommend bluefish08:23
KeenEarsif ubuntu spreads even wider this channel will becom unusable08:23
Shocka311Rpereira: what does pvt mean?08:23
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LinTuxcheers idelmind08:24
n1gken2diy: Next video card will employ 256 megs mem, and then I can really enjoy my science and astronomy stuff.08:24
crowley1027whoever: under Synaptic Package Manager, i see flashplayer-mozilla and flashplugin-nonfree (both unchecked).  should i install either, both, or none?08:24
thoreauputicKeenEars: getting that way already I'm afraid :(08:24
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w3ccvLinTux, nvu is good, just barelyu. U don't like the way it reformats what you enter - remeinds me on MS - it thinks the uses doesn't know what he wants to do.08:24
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agentLinTux: you hear most web designers wail at doing it by hand, but that is because they are designers and usually suck at coding - i code by hand much, much quicker then those "pro" designers with their fancy html programs - not to mention in the long run it pays of big time because of clean code08:24
fruitflybenutzt ihr bei eurem desktop PC LVM?08:24
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n2diyn1gke, rr, are you familiar with Kstars?08:24
KeenEarsmaybe by splitting to different topics...08:24
w3ccvlinlin, /U/I/08:24
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n1gken2diy: I love kstars !08:24
Takuyaok I'm rebooting and I'll see08:24
SkyrailAnyone managed to successfully set up two screens working as a stretched desktop using an ATi based card?08:25
Shocka311Rpereira: the partition is /dev/hdb there is curently no acess path and it won't let me save one.08:25
n2diyn1gke, rr, me too.08:25
agentfruitfly: #ubuntu-de08:25
reverseblademost asked question08:25
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fruitflyagent, oh ^^08:25
n1gken2diy: way cool !08:25
LinTuxcheers agent08:25
fruitflydo you use LVM on your desktop pc / notebook?08:25
rpereiraShocka311: Lock the other tab on your IRC program... So we can talk in private....08:25
agent!ask > fruitfly08:26
rpereiraShocka311: Sorry..... Errata: Look the other tab...08:26
philo23i need to back up the packages of a hdd i have mounted, how can i set the root in the dpkg command?08:26
n1gken2diy: Is now watching 2nd room, hamradio.08:26
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thoreauputicLinTux: if you are used to WYSIWYG, try nvu first ( you can also use it to code directly)08:26
idlemindlintux & agent: i agree most of the semi-auto tools jack up code; they are good for quick dirty jobs but if you're making any sort of larger web-site; i'd recommend hand-coding but you can use gui tools to help w/that. bluefish will allow ftp access etc... to ease the pain08:26
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reversebladeWYSIWYG sucks08:27
stefgphilo23: chroot to the system and sudo dpkg --get-selections > selections.lst08:27
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crowley1027where should i extract FP9_plugin_beta_112006.tar.gz?08:27
thoreauputicidlemind: the code nvu makes isn't pretty but at least it is compliant, in general08:27
agentidlemind: uhm... if you are using ftp "live" on a production website then something is wrong... i have a webserver installed on my computer for testing the whole website and upload the finished product... doing it otherwise is... well... horrible08:27
h3xiscrowley1027, in your home directoy08:27
crowley1027which would be?08:28
reversebladecrowley1027, any where just copy the plugin to firefox/plugin08:28
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h3xiscrowley1027, ~08:28
Feral_Kidfruitfly> I actually use LVM and RAID on my laptop... I have 2 120G hard drives...08:28
thoreauputicreverseblade: some people don't need to learn all the html they need :)08:28
philo23stefg: eg: chroot /mnt/ubuntu?08:28
crowley1027File System?08:28
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stefgphilo23: yes08:28
reversebladethoreauputic, that doesnt prevent WYSIWYG sucking08:28
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fruitflyFeral_Kid, i have 1 80 gb hdd and i want to reinstall ubuntu, now i dont know how i should partitionate08:29
idlemindthoreauputic: yes code can be correct but it is always said in programming that clean/documented code is MUCH easier to maintain08:29
thoreauputicreverseblade: whatever - X sucks too ;) Let's all run in a vt !08:29
rpereiraShocka311: Where are you? I'm waiting in the other tab....08:29
philo23stefg: where would the file be outputted to?08:29
thoreauputicidlemind: agreed08:29
agentidlemind: but even "quick and dirty" websites can be done much quicker by hand... i mean: look how quick i can write: <table><tr><td></td</tr></table>  compared to open app -> wait to load -> select create table -> fill in everything -> ok ;)08:29
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markouttherehow do I leave here?08:29
markoutthere:quit08:29
crowley1027h3xis: Extract to File System?08:29
reversebladethoreauputic, no, X provides a common api for guis08:29
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crowley1027markoutthere: /quit08:29
thoreauputicmarkl_: /part or /quit08:29
Takuyaomfg08:29
markouttherethanks08:29
KeenEarsbtw - who knows - was problems with reiserfs fixed in kubuntu 6.10 ?08:29
Takuyaagent, it has my essid08:29
philo23stefg: doesnt matter, found it08:29
Takuyaand an access point08:30
markoutthere: /quit08:30
Takuyao_o08:30
agentmarkoutthere: leave this channel?08:30
stefgphilo23: where you want it (in the chroot) ... using my example you find it in the current one08:30
thoreauputicreverseblade: *sigh* I was kidding08:30
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markoutthereyes08:30
TakuyaYES08:30
TakuyaIT WORKS08:30
reversebladethoreauputic, so do I, X really sucks :)08:30
Takuyahallelujah08:30
philo23stefg: how do i get that back onto the new hdd?08:30
stefgexit08:30
TakuyaI am never trusting the internet again for .sys drivers08:30
crowley1027h3xis: Extract to File System?08:30
Takuyaamazing.08:30
h3xiscrowley1027, no... extract it to /home/your_username then in there should be the plugin. extract it to your firefox plugins directory08:30
agentmarkoutthere: to leave this channel just type: /part08:30
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Feral_Kidfruitfly> Well, from a single drive I would use LVM and then allow for growth on home directory...08:30
Takuyaagent: whee. :)08:30
stefgchroot and cp /mnt/.... /foo/bar08:30
agentTakuya: haha... what did you do?08:30
Shocka311Rpereira: can you hear me in the other tab?08:31
stefg*exit* chroot and cp /mnt/.... /foo/bar08:31
Takuyainstalled the drivers from the official CD08:31
Takuya:p08:31
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agentTakuya: doh! ;)08:31
SkyrailAnyone sucessfully managed to get dual screens working on Ubuntu 6.10 using an ATi gfx card?08:31
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crowley1027h3xis: libflashplayer.so?08:31
rpereiraShocka311: You are not typing anithing....08:31
philo23stefg: how do i import it again?08:31
h3xiscrowley1027, yes08:31
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crowley1027h3xis: how do i send that to the firefox directory08:31
thoreauputiccrowley1027: that's all there is to move, afaics08:32
fruitflyFeral_Kid, is LVM complicaed? i didnt work with it before08:32
stefgphilo23: dpkg --set-selections ... read man dpkg08:32
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Shocka311Rpereira: i did but you must not have got it,08:32
philo23Skyrail: *high five*08:32
philo23stefg: sorry08:32
h3xiscrowley1027, cp libflashplayer.so /path/to/firefox/plugins i dont know where it is because i dont use firefox08:32
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rpereiraShocka311: OK... So lets talk here...08:32
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rpereiraShocka311: Is your patition mounted?08:33
crowley1027anyone: where is the firefox directory08:33
thoreauputiccrowley1027: the README in the tarball says what to do I think08:33
philo23Skyrail: hello?08:33
h3xiscrowley1027, check /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins08:33
Shocka311Rpereira: I just tried pvt you again, did you get anything?08:33
idlemindfind / -name "*firefox*"08:33
h3xiscrowley1027, or /home/your_username/.firefox/plugins08:33
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reversebladeShocka311, hey whats up buddy08:33
thoreauputich3xis: actually /home/you/.mozilla/plugins ( at least on dapper)08:34
h3xisthoreauputic, alright. i havent used firefox in forever ;)08:34
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Shocka311Reverseblade: hey08:34
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thoreauputich3xis: epiphany uses the same dir08:34
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reversebladeShocka311, how is your linux adventure, still learning?08:34
Shocka311Rpereira: how do I mount my partition?08:34
thoreauputicfor plugins ( at least it works here)08:34
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reverseblade!mount  | Shocka31108:35
ubotuShocka311: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter08:35
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Waldmeistahey everyone...08:35
Shocka311reverseblade: oh ya. learnin away!08:35
Waldmeistai got a problem with the installation off the desktop live cd of ubuntu08:35
Waldmeistaeverything went fine but after a reboot, there was no grub to choose which os to boot so i ended up with windows again08:35
crowley1027h3xis: I don't see .firefox in the file browser.08:35
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h3xisWaldmeista, which is?08:35
h3xiscrowley1027, it's hidden.08:35
unikon anyone whats the longest time that synaptic package manager  ever took to apply changes08:35
reversebladeWaldmeista, lol08:36
crowley1027got it :)08:36
FirstStrikeHmm..what was that bot trigger for grub08:36
stefg!grub | Waldmeista08:36
ubotuWaldmeista: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto08:36
rpereiraShocka311: Did got it?08:36
thoreauputiccrowley1027: ctrl + h in nautilus, and try .mozilla/plugins08:36
FirstStrikeOh, just that08:36
Feral_KidNope it isn't that bad... I would suggest that you take a look at 'Ubuntu Hacks' to get an understanding of it...08:36
Waldmeistaubotu Ok, i'll read that, but I didn't install windows after ubuntu08:36
h3xisthoreauputic, firefox 2 doesnt have its own directory anymore?08:36
reversebladeWaldmeista, he is a bot08:37
Shocka311Rpereira: /dev/hdb108:37
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thoreauputich3xis: not sure - I'm on dapper here08:37
stefgWaldmeista: ubotu is the bot :) ... and this applies to your case, even if you didn't reinstall windows08:37
h3xisthoreauputic, me neither. im on debian ;)08:37
Waldmeistai know that now, that he told me :-)08:37
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Shocka311Rpereira: I have it mounted in home/user and I've named the folder hdslave08:37
Waldmeistaok08:37
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Shocka311Rpereira: it won't let me write anything to it.08:38
rpereiraShocka311: And if you write on terminal: mount.... Do you have a line "/dev/hdb1 on /home/user/hdslave" ?08:38
w3ccvthoreauputic, /usr/local/bin/firefox - actually whereever you install it.08:38
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thoreauputicglobal dir for firefox plugins appears to be /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins08:38
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thoreauputicw3ccv: that only applies if you installed a non-packaged version08:39
crowley1027how do i find the process list?08:39
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Udidoes anyone know the name of a good irc server for Linux/Ubuntu?08:39
h3xishas anyone had any luck getting mplayer-plugin to work with opera?08:39
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thoreauputicw3ccv: I mean a non-ubuntu version08:39
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w3ccvthoreauputic, right - I only install it straight from mozilla08:39
alper__Hi, i got a little prob: i have a usb mass storage (psp) plugged to my ubuntu system, and every time when I want to delete something, it doesnt really get deleted, it just get moved to the trashband, when I plug off the psp, the data I wanted to be deleted are still there08:39
crowley1027how do i get a process list in terminal?08:40
thoreauputiccrowley1027: ps aux08:40
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Shocka311Rpereira: I have a line /dv/hdb108:40
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Shocka311Rpereira: /dev08:40
thoreauputiccrowley1027: you might want to pipe that through less - ps aux | less08:40
h3xisalper, are you unmounting it when you are finished?08:40
venikdoes anyone know the name of a good irc server for Linux/Ubuntu?08:40
rpereiraShocka311: And what is the rest of the line?08:40
alper__no, im used to not to do that (from win)08:41
thoreauputiccrowley1027: or use "top" for real-time updates08:41
alper__no, im used to not to do that (from win) h3xis08:41
h3xisalper, youre supposed to. could be the problem08:41
Shocka311Rpereira: /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)08:41
alper__ok thanks :(08:41
h3xisalper__, do you know how to do that08:41
alper__i think i know08:41
rpereiraShocka311: And /dev/sdb1 ?08:42
alper__rightclick on the storage and check "Eject"08:42
h3xisalper__, it should appear as a volume on your desktop, click eject08:42
alper__yes08:42
h3xis:)08:42
alper__thanks again08:42
venikno one uses IRC anymore?08:42
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Waldmeistai guess the grub entry was written to my linux partition instead of the master boot record?08:42
thoreauputicvenik: ?08:42
kitchevenik: unrealircd dancer there is many that are good08:43
Waldmeistaduring intall there was something to choose where to install it to where i left it at hd008:43
Shocka311It doesn't say anything about /dev/sdbl08:43
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thoreauputicvenik: apt-cache search irc server08:43
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venikthanks.  That helps08:43
rpereiraShocka311: This means that your new partition/disk is not mounted.08:43
kitcheWaldmeista: hd0 is the mbr08:43
thoreauputic!ircd08:44
ubotuircd: IRC Server daemon - dummy package. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0 (edgy), package size 6 kB, installed size 36 kB08:44
Waldmeistaok, then why does it but windows instead of grub?08:44
Shocka311 rpereira: K, how do I mount it?08:44
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Waldmeista*boot*08:44
chorsekitche: you mean hda?08:44
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kitchechorse: no grub does hd0 for drives hd0 or hd1 if you have two drives or whatever for the mbr08:44
rpereiraShocka311: So you have to mount it, thru command: sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /mydirectory               I'm supposed that you've already create the directory, in my case : /mydirectory....08:45
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crowley1027www.myspace.com/verismo   :)08:45
chorsekitche: ah, it's about grub, i'm sorry08:45
kitcheWaldmeista: did you install ubuntu after windows or before08:45
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prisonermmm.. Ubuntu with Apache 2.2 and Trac goodness... http://www.rubystarman.org/wiki/UbuntuEdgyEft08:45
Waldmeistaafter08:45
Waldmeistai have 2 hds one primary master one primary slave08:45
rpereiraShocka311: If you didn't create the directory do: sudo mkdir /mydirectory08:46
Waldmeistaon the master disk I created a ext3 and a swap partition08:46
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Waldmeistaduring the setup i left the default hd0 to install grub to08:46
kitcheWaldmeista: so it just boots into windows and doesn't give you the ubuntu usplash is that what your saying08:46
Shocka311 rpereira: do I need to create a directory?08:46
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Pirate-kinghello08:46
jhallhow can i assign a static private network address to my box? something like 192.168.1.11008:46
h3xisjhall, in Networking08:47
Waldmeistakitche exactly08:47
Pirate-kingcan ubuntu interface with a canon camera08:47
thoreauputicjhall: I don't usually point at man pages - but try man interfaces08:47
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Shocka311 rpereira: in place of /mydirectory should I put the access path I want?08:47
kitcheWaldmeista: ok then you will have to reinstall grub then08:47
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stefgWaldmeista: the problem is that grub disn't installed to the mbr of the first harddisk. it's still the windows boot loader there, which simply ignores the existence of any other OS08:47
Skyrail:| anyone know how to edit the xorg.conf file to get dual screens working?08:47
factotumso Im passing on my old Mac G4 to my girlfiend... Looking to get a pc for $$ reasons and I hate windows. Linux a good way to go?08:47
thoreauputicjhall: you can also do it in the system networking GUI as h3xis says08:47
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kitche!grub|Waldmeista this will tell you how to reinstall grub08:48
ubotuWaldmeista this will tell you how to reinstall grub: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto08:48
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rpereiraShocka311: Yes, instead /mydirectory you have to put the access path that you want.08:48
jhallthoreauputic: thanks, I'll check it out. I tried it through the networking gui a while back but didn't work right. don't remember why08:48
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mike1ohow do i know where a soft link originates from?08:48
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Waldmeistaok, so i just follow the advice from the document where it says ...overwriting windows boot loader ok?08:48
Menasim1How can I use CVS??08:48
thoreauputicjhall: editing /etc/network/interfaces isn't too hard :)08:48
stefgWaldmeista: exactly08:49
unikoncan anyone help with this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38544/08:49
Shocka311 rpereira: so it should be  /home/user/Hdslave right?08:49
kitchemike1o you can do ls -l on the symlink and it will on the right side say where the link is pointing to08:49
venikhas anyone convinced UBUNTU to recognize the Nvidia graphics?08:49
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factotumhow is ubuntu performance wise compared to debian these days? Snappy as a debian install finally?08:49
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mike1otnx kitche08:49
factotumIm not flaming here, just want to know, ive been out of the loop for a while08:49
rpereiraShocka311: OK....08:49
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h3xisfactotum, it uses a gui now.08:50
stefgfactotum: no difference, i'd say08:50
factotumawsome, how is it performance wise?08:50
factotumoh cool08:50
thoreauputicfactotum: Ubuntu is *very* similar to Debian08:50
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factotumthats great that its similar, but i want to know how it compares performance wise, is it sluggish like suse or does it have that pep like slackware or debian?08:51
h3xisdebian is not as sugar coated08:51
Shocka311sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /home/user/Hdslave08:51
Shocka311 it says its already mounted there.08:51
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IntelligitimateI am concerned about security as a user. There is only one user account. Am I the root user? It always asks me for a password when I do stuff, so I'm not sure.08:52
h3xisfactotum, i prefer debian (using it now) but when i used edgy it seemed to perform the same. i just like more control over my system08:52
thoreauputicfactotum: I think slackware is probably still quicker - but I haven't used it for a while08:52
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Shocka311rpereira: it says its already mounted there.08:52
SkyrailIntelligitimate: no your not root, the roto account is seperate unless you log on with the name root08:52
factotumIm all for the ease of use, its sounds like its progressed in leaps and bounds, but it seems like the tradeoff is always performance08:52
Skyrail*root08:52
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IntelligitimateSo as long as I don't log in as root, I am not root?08:52
aliendream23how would I use shred to effectively 'wipe' a hard drive or partition clean, when that partition has no file directory?08:52
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thoreauputicfactotum: if you do minimal installs and build up, Ubuntu can be pretty quick - or try xubuntu ( xfce4 destop)08:53
Rectoris the original ATI driver better than fglrx?08:53
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h3xisRector, no08:53
IntelligitimateBut why is the sudo password the same as my login password?08:53
thoreauputicIntelligitimate: because that's how sudo works :)08:53
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IntelligitimateSudo is not root, buyt something else?08:53
factotumthoreauputic: cool cool i like xfce and fluxbox quite a bit08:53
thoreauputicIntelligitimate: only the first user is allowed sudo by default08:53
stefg!root08:53
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.08:53
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thoreauputicfactotum: +1 for fluxbox :)08:54
MenZaWhen I use ftp, I get "/home/menza/wp/: not a plain file" and it refuses to put. Any ideas? What am I doing wrong?08:54
factotumhaha thanks :)08:54
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factotum1up!08:54
rpereiraShocka311: So, if you type: mount, will appear "/dev/hdb1 on /home/user/HDSlave" or similar.08:54
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aliendream23!shred08:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about shred - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:54
ifwranyone have any ideas as to why grip keeps making improper mp3 files?08:54
MenZa!ftp08:54
ubotuFTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd08:54
kitcheMenZa: the ftp command line program can't do anything with directories08:54
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MenZakitche: oh.08:54
factotum!blastbeat08:54
thoreauputicfactotum: I compile fluxbox from the latest svn if possible though08:54
MenZablast.08:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about blastbeat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:54
MenZaThanks, kitche08:55
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stefgMenZa: consider mc08:55
malikeyeIntelligitimate: sudo give you root privileges based on your password, you don't need root password.... that's the point08:55
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IntelligitimateAh.08:55
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thoreauputicIntelligitimate: if you need a root shel, you can type sudo -i08:55
Shocka311Yep, there it is08:55
malikeyegranted if sudo isn't implemented right ( well it can happen anyway ) you can get root access with sudo08:55
oidiawhere is my "irssi_dir" ?08:55
MenZastefg: mc?08:55
stefg!mc08:55
factotumthoreauputic:  okay thanks08:55
ubotumc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-5 (edgy), package size 2057 kB, installed size 5944 kB08:55
MenZaooh08:55
malikeyefull root access, that is08:55
kitcheoidia: the user config directory is ~/.irssi08:55
factotummmmm.... mc08:56
MenZastefg: I will08:56
MenZaI don't like gftp much.08:56
thoreauputicfactotum: but the Ubuntu fluxbox package for edgy is the latest I think08:56
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malikeyeoidia: ~/.irssi08:56
oidiakitche: but the directory neaded to compile libfish?08:56
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oidiaok, thanks08:56
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rpereiraShocka311: So it is mounted.... To check if it will be mounted everytime is just edit a file called /etc/fstab08:56
bashirhey08:56
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bashiri just isntalled beryl08:57
Waldmeistakitche when I print the partitions on my master harddisk with fdisk it shows me only one partition which is HPFS/NTFS where are all the others?? I have several (one primary, one extended containing 2 logical NTFS volumes) and finally the linux partitions08:57
factotumyeah, i have an old dapper beta install cd, but i think i might just nab the edgy iso instead of dist-upgrading08:57
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Shocka311rpereira: i don't understant08:57
malikeyeShocka311: be careful editing fstab though08:57
logoxhi all08:57
logoxmy name is logo08:57
bashirthe beryl effects are fine but emerald isnt owrking08:57
n1gkehi logo08:57
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bashirthere are no title bars on my windows08:57
Shocka311what is fstam08:57
Shocka311b08:57
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logoxn1gke: naslsn08:57
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thoreauputicfactotum: probably a better way, yes - if you like xfce4 you can get a xubuntu CD08:57
rpereiraShocka311: If a line "/dev/hdb1 /home/user/HDSlave" exists.... Your partition will be mounted everytime.....08:57
n1gkelogox: where are you please ?08:58
malikeyeit's where the kernel looks to mount filesystems at boot time, primarily08:58
thoreauputicfactotum: then install fluxbox :)08:58
bashirdoes anyone know what i should do?08:58
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kitcheWaldmeista: then that drives probably only has one partition, but then again I don't use fdisk that much in Linux so they might be there just that fdisk can't see them08:58
logoxn1gke: i m from turkey08:58
logoxU?08:58
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n1gkelogox: Cool ! I am in north east u.s.08:58
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Shocka311rpereira: when I exit out of disk manager and get back in the access path is gone and it doesn't apear to be mounted.08:58
thoreauputicbashir: what does  pidof metacity  return ?08:59
n1gkelogox: Are you in Ankara please ?08:59
gop!mesa08:59
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mesa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:59
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gopwhy is downloading some mesa update08:59
gopso slow08:59
gopless then one k08:59
bashir496408:59
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rpereiraOK.08:59
thoreauputicbash: OK so the window manager is running08:59
factotumthoreauputic: could i do some kind of minimal install and just add as needed instead of some big foo-desktop metapackage?09:00
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Waldmeistakitche, my mistake - remembered gparted and that shows me that my relevant partitions are on /dev/sda09:00
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gopthe computer asked me to install foo update and it taking for ever less then one k09:00
rpereiraShocka311: Are you using Dapper (version 6.06)? Or edgy (6.10)?09:00
Shocka311rpereira: I enabled the hd but I still can't use it or edit the permission properties09:00
malikeyeIsn't ankara where the sankara stones are ?09:00
thoreauputicfactotum: sure - use the alternate Cd for that09:00
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Shocka311rpereira: Dapper09:00
rpereiraShocka311: OK.09:00
factotumalright, like a server install or something?09:00
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thoreauputicfactotum: then install x-window-system-core xterm fluxbox and go from there09:01
stefgfactotum: if you feel comfortable with apt at the command prompt you can do a 'server'-install and then add componenets as neede09:01
stefgd09:01
rpereiraShocka311: But when you exit Disk manager your disk is not mounted anymore?09:01
factotumstefg: cool beans yeah im comfy-cozy with apt-get and aptitude09:01
Waldmeistathe manual says "my /boot is at /dev/sda7, which translates to hd0,6 for grub" my linux partition is /dev/sda3 would that translate to hd0,2 ?09:01
thoreauputicfactotum: yes, although edgy calls it something else I think ( there are F* prompts in theinstaller to check)09:01
Shocka311rpereira: thats what has happened in the past, let me try now that I mounted it with terminal.09:01
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kitcheWaldmeista: ah you have a SATA system?09:02
factotumthoreauputic: yeah i googled around and see that its easily possible09:02
Waldmeistayep09:02
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factotumthankfully09:02
Waldmeistaah, ok thats the s in /dev/sda then right?09:02
n1gkeWell dang.09:02
malikeyeWaldmeista: kinda09:02
Shocka311rpereira: its still mounted this time.09:03
PriceChildWaldmeista, won't that mean sd0,6 etc.?09:03
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kitcheWaldmeista: yea if you are running a pure SATA setup09:03
malikeyeit's actually SCSI, but SATA is emulated as SCSI09:03
thoreauputicfactotum: I did it on an old P 200 64MB RAM - but that was breezy, not a current release ( about a year ago)09:03
jontec I used this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting to try to fix my sound... and now kmix isn't even detecting my sound card!!! HELP!09:03
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Waldmeistano, my primary master is sata, the slave is ide09:03
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rpereiraShocka311: OK. To make your mount permantent you have to add it on "fstab" file, but with very caution....09:03
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malikeye~fstab09:03
malikeye!fstab09:03
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions09:03
thoreauputicfactotum: sadly that old workhorse finally died :(09:03
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factotumaw, thats too bad09:04
Shocka311rpereira: ok, what is fstab and how do I do that09:04
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thoreauputicfactotum: :'(09:04
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factotumi still have an old pentium mmx with 32megs, it has freebsd on it but not really doing anything at the moment09:04
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Aragorn_ElessarHi all!09:04
thoreauputicfactotum: dtill in mourning ;-)09:04
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factotumhaha09:05
thoreauputicumm s/dtill/still09:05
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thoreauputicfactotum: these new fangled boxen just aren't the same ;-)09:05
timtrimblecan anyone help?  my sb16pci won't work in ubuntu.  i've modprobed it, it doesn't detect it as a soundblaster 16, but it does find it as an ensoniq 1371 and 1370.  i know that that's the chipset of the card, but I don't know why it still doesn't work.09:05
rpereiraShocka311: Fstab is a text file: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html as ubotu said.... This file defines the partiontions mounted when you start your computer or define a option to mount later.09:05
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Aragorn_Elessarhas anyboby problems with the latest edgy kernel?09:06
Alakazamz0rwhats the latest edgy kernel?09:06
WaldmeistaPriceChild why sd0,6 - i understand the sd0 but why the 6 ?09:06
malikeyetimtrimble: did you unmute all the channels ?09:06
reversebladeAragorn_Elessar, what kernel  ?09:06
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Alakazamz0r2.6.17-10 ?09:06
factotumoh i know, i still have my old hp vectra  piibox. its still up and running09:06
reversebladeI am using 2.6.19.1. This devil is bleeding fast09:06
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linnuxxyhow to install ZipArchive for php5 in dapper?09:06
Shocka311rpereira: got it, so how do I edit that and what to?09:06
PriceChildWaldmeista, i'm not sute about the sd, but grub starts counting from09:06
timtrimblemalikeye: the mixer doesn't even come up because alsa doesn't detect a sound card09:06
PriceChild009:06
MenZastefg: I decided on mc. How do I connect to an ftp server in the right window?09:06
Waldmeistaok09:06
timtrimblemalikeye:  just gives an err09:06
Askerhi09:07
timtrimblehi asker09:07
MenZapanel*09:07
x-r00t-xhow do i make default Gentoo terminal. on ubuntu edgy?09:07
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Askerhi there09:07
factotumits also running freebsd with blackbox and dillo for a browser if i need it, plays music and whatnot. Its more or less a jukebox now09:07
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stefgMenZa: please see the mc documentation09:07
Askertimt09:07
timtrimble?09:07
MenZastefg: ok09:07
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malikeyetimtrimble: cat /proc/asound/cards09:07
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timtrimblemalikeye:  "no soundcards"09:08
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Askeri am new on linux09:08
factotummy girlfriend and I pretty much have a bsd household right now. OSX and freebsd everywhere09:08
thoreauputicfactotum: yes, surprising what can be done with a bit of knowledge and lightweight apps09:08
Aragorn_Elessar<reverseblade> I updated at the last version 2.6.17something-34 , I'm in windows now and the internet connection is broken in Edgy09:08
x-r00t-xhow do i make default Gentoo terminal. on ubuntu edgy?can anyone tell me how do i make default Gentoo terminal colors . on ubuntu edgy?09:08
factotumthoreauputic: oh i love it, theres a use for every system in some way or another09:08
thoreauputicfactotum: OS-X doesn't impress me much ( and mangles the file system)09:09
timtrimblex-r00t-x:  was wondering the same thing09:09
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Aragorn_Elessar<Alakazamz0r>  2.6.17something-3409:09
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x-r00t-xtimtrimble, ya. got any idea?09:09
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Alakazamz0rim using the 2.6.17-10 kernel, it seems to be the latest stable Aragorn_Elessar09:09
timtrimblex-r00t-x:  no clue.  =/09:09
thoreauputicfactotum: I have an iBook dual boot but I mostly use mac-on-linux for codecs etc and hardly ever boot OS-X09:09
factotumthoreauputic: yeah I know, its a hand-me-down from my broher. ive been using it for a couple months. Now I have a decent PC system to get up and running09:09
jb0nd38372Is there a software package that will allow you to pull pictures off a motorola cell? (sliver, l6, etc, razr)  I found plenty that sync with the phone book but none with the multimedia features09:09
rpereiraShocka311: First use the command: cat /etc/fstab          just to see if /dev/sdb1 is there....09:10
malikeyex-r00t-x: PS1='\[\033[01;32m\] \u@\h\[\033[01;34m\]  \w \$\[\033\]  '09:10
malikeyethat's for non-root09:10
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thoreauputicfactotum: ubuntu runs faster than OS-X on my ppc iBook :)09:10
factotumI actually prefer the old os8 and whatnot, the last time i used a mac09:10
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x-r00t-xon where ?09:10
x-r00t-xwhere i put it ?09:10
malikeyex-r00t-x: you need to 'export' that somewhere like ~/.bashrc09:10
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Alakazamz0rthoreauputic, thats not surprising ;)09:10
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thoreauputicAlakazamz0r: I know :)09:10
malikeyex-r00t-x: so : echo 'export PS1='\[\033[01;32m\] \u@\h\[\033[01;34m\]  \w \$\[\033\]  ''09:11
malikeyesorry09:11
Aragorn_Elessar<Alakazamz0r> I reboot , so I can control the exact version09:11
thoreauputicAlakazamz0r: actually even mac-on-linux runs faster ( better kernel I guess)09:11
malikeyex-r00t-x: so : echo 'export PS1='\[\033[01;32m\] \u@\h\[\033[01;34m\]  \w \$\[\033\]  ''  >> ~/.bashrc09:11
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idlemindprobably lighter gui code more likely09:11
Alakazamz0rthoreauputic, hehe09:11
Waldmeistaok, when i type root (sd0,2) in grub i get an "error 23: error while parsing number"09:11
POVaddctMenZa: open mc menu, Right -> FTP link ... -> user@hostname09:11
malikeyessh root@ulyses09:11
malikeyewoops :)09:12
Waldmeistawhen i type root (hd0,2) i get an "partition does not exist"09:12
MenZaPOVaddct: oh.09:12
MenZaThanks :)09:12
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x-r00t-xmalikeye, may i have to restart to make it work?09:12
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factotumthoreauputic: that really doesnt suprize me. the ppc hardware is really quite nice, but the OS is just a bit over the top for my tastes. I dont know much about the tech specs of it.09:12
linnuxxyhow to install php_zip.so for php5 in dapper?09:12
thoreauputicidlemind: OS-X uses a micro kernel - it;s always busily hunting around for something ;)09:12
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malikeyex-r00t-x: source ~/.bashrc09:12
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Shocka311rpereira: no it's not there, there is a /dev/hda5 that has no mount point09:13
stefgWaldmeista: i'm not sure  grub knows 's'da... grub just numbers hd0,1,209:13
x-r00t-xmalikeye,09:13
x-r00t-xexport PS1=[033[0109:13
x-r00t-xbash: 32m] u@h[033[01: command not found09:13
x-r00t-xbash: 34m] : command not found09:13
Shocka311rpereira: I have no idea what that would be.09:13
malikeyek... might need to manually add it, not sure of the environment you have09:13
idlemindthoreauputic: ahh; as in micro kernel do you mean everything is basically a module; so it has to load all kinds of stuff?09:13
wyldwhat does an "out of range" error mean on a dell CPU fan error?09:13
thoreauputicidlemind: yes09:13
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malikeyejust edit ~/.bashrc and add the : export .........09:13
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Waldmeistastefg ok then my second approach should actually work..09:14
rpereiraShocka311: OK. Do you have /dev/hda5 ?09:14
malikeyex-r00t-x: let me check ubuntu box, one sec09:14
thoreauputicidlemind: a CS lecturer told me that the OS-X kernel sucks ( don't know enough to say if he's right)09:14
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icilizeanyone know why my connection is killed when i use klibido? i download at about 1,200 kb/s for 10 minutes and then the connection on this computer stops, but when i restart it works again09:14
MenZastefg: thanks, that did it.09:14
MenZaI'll definitely use that more :)09:14
linnuxxyi need to compile php_zip.so for php5 in ubuntu dapper (6.06) where can i find the source?09:14
Shocka311rpereira: would that be a hard drive named hda5?09:15
linnuxxyhow to install php_zip.so for php5 in dapper?09:15
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idlemindthoreauputic: lol; ya i don't devel kernels so for me i have to rely on others to tell me the insidds09:15
x-r00t-xmalikeye, sure :)09:15
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stefgWaldmeista: ' find /boot/grub/stage1' at the grub prompt will tell you, how grub sees your harddisks09:16
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malikeyex-r00t-x: works fine here09:16
x-r00t-xmalikeye,  its not working fine with me09:16
thoreauputicidlemind: in Revolution OS, RMS implies that the fact that the HURD is a microkernel made it hard to get it working - very tough to debug apparently09:16
malikeyejust manually add this to the bottom of ~/.bashrc : export PS1='\[\033[01;32m\] \u@\h\[\033[01;34m\]  \w \$\[\033\]  '09:16
kalilalinnuxxy: php_zip module is usually built in09:16
x-r00t-xcan yo give me the tect again09:16
malikeyeexactly  like that09:16
kalilatry enabling it in php.ini09:16
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x-r00t-xmalikeye, with : ?09:16
kalilalinnuxxy: i know it was for php4, not sure about 509:16
kalilathough09:16
ixian_can someone tell me how to make an .iso from a cd-rom? i want to make an iso of my windows 95 cd09:16
malikeyevi or nano or whatever you use09:16
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Waldmeistastefg that gives me a "file not found" error09:17
malikeyedelete the other stuff that you added with the echo >>09:17
linnuxxykalila: i've search the HD for php_zip.so... not found anything09:17
x-r00t-xmalikeye,  i mean to say ":" sami colon or what ever it is09:17
thoreauputicidlemind: otherwise we might all be running HURD/Ubuntu ;D09:17
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malikeyethat should be at the bottom of th eline09:17
malikeyeoh.. no colon09:17
idlemindthoreauputic: hmm ...09:17
malikeyefrom export on.....09:17
stefgWaldmeista: then something with your install went seriously wrong (or you some sort of exotic sata-controller)09:17
POVaddctixian_: dd if=/dev/<your_cdrom_device> of=win95.iso09:17
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x-r00t-xmalikeye,  ok09:18
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astarohhello09:18
astarohgood afternoon!!!09:18
malikeyeif you get it work, I can give the root prompt too09:18
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astarohhow do you do???09:18
nolimitsoya!hi | astaroh09:18
ubotuastaroh: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!09:18
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x-r00t-xmalikeye, no error but its not making color09:18
hq4ever_2playing with ubutntu, looks nice so far09:18
x-r00t-xr00t-fck@r00t-suck-on-that:~$ source ~/.bashrc09:19
x-r00t-xr00t-fck@r00t-suck-on-that:~$09:19
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malikeyehmm09:19
thoreauputicx-r00t-x: you just managed to be offensive without even trying...09:19
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idlemindi guess for some it comes naturally09:20
_3ljhey all, im trying to install x-server, and folling the advice on http://techbycolin.com/?p=88 and im ub to "startx" and exiting, but upon exiting i see a whole load of "Could not init font path element" errors, anyone got any idea where im going wrong? :-/09:20
malikeyedon't know to tell you... try su - r00t-fck09:20
timtrimblecan anyone help?  my sb16pci won't work in ubuntu.  i've modprobed it, it doesn't detect it as a soundblaster 16, but it does find it as an ensoniq 1371 and 1370.  i know that that's the chipset of the card, but I don't know why it still doesn't work.09:20
astarohwhere is the server from??09:20
x-r00t-xthoreauputic, man i am newbie on it . so i have no idea09:20
thoreauputicx-r00t-x: well, please edit out your hostname/username09:20
malikeyex-r00t-x: pastebin your ~/.bashrc09:21
stefg_3lj: i remember we talked 3h ago about missing xfonts, didn't we?09:21
malikeye~pastebin09:21
malikeye!pastebin09:21
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)09:21
POVaddctx-r00t-x: i think thoreauputic was referring to your username and hostname :)09:21
rpereiraShocka311: Yes.... On Disk Manager you could see the partion on your first disk.....09:21
Waldmeistaok, i tried the instructions from http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/GRUB and it seemed to work, grub comes up while booting but when I choose to boot ubuntu it says "error 22: no such partition"09:21
thoreauputicPOVaddct: indeed09:21
_3ljlol, hey again stefg, i did that, i installed all of xfonts-base, and it says they are all installed :-/09:21
x-r00t-xPOVaddct, hmm maybe09:21
Waldmeistadamn, gotta try other things..09:21
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thoreauputic!coc| x-r00t-x09:22
ubotux-r00t-x: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/09:22
stefg!xfonts-100dpi-transcoded09:22
ubotuxfonts-100dpi-transcoded: 100 dpi fonts for X (transcoded from ISO 10646-1). In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.0.0-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 7199 kB, installed size 10648 kB09:22
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malikeyetimtrimble: default install ? you didn't mess with the kernel at all ?09:22
aliendream23help. when I try to "root@Ubuntu-0:/home/alienseer23# shred -z -v /media/hdd1"  i get "shred: /media/hdd1: failed to open for writing: Is a directory"09:22
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soobnaucehi09:22
x-r00t-xhttp://pastebin.com/84388909:22
x-r00t-xits done09:22
Shocka311rpereira: there is no hda5, only hda1 and hdb109:22
x-r00t-xmalikeye, take a look http://pastebin.com/84388909:22
malikeyelooking09:22
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aliendream23how do i get it to shred that partition?09:22
malikeyeyou need to add it to the bottom09:23
timtrimblemalikeye:  no, but I was forced to update from 5.10 to 6.06 to 6.10, but i don't see how that'd effect it that much..09:23
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rpereiraShocka311: OK. Don't with this... So there is no /dev/sdb1.....09:23
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timtrimble*affect09:23
rpereiraShocka311: Errata: Don't worry with this....09:23
Skyrailanyone know anything about dual screens in ubuntu?09:23
malikeyex-r00t-x: your prompt is getting reset in the middle, so you need to make sure it's at the end, or it'll get overwritten09:23
malikeyetimtrimble: worked fine before ?09:23
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x-r00t-xoh malikeye09:23
_3ljstefg: oooh, transcoded ones, i dont ahve those \o/ (thank you, ill give it ago)09:23
Shocka311rpereira: # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>09:24
Shocka311proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       009:24
Shocka311/dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       109:24
Shocka311/dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0       009:24
Shocka311/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       009:24
rpereiraShocka311: Use the command: sudo gedit /etc/fstab09:24
Shocka311/dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       009:24
timtrimblenot sure, it's a pretty fresh install.  i didn't check to see if it worked first09:24
_3ljand ive now discovered alt + f<number> to get multiple screens :-D09:24
malikeyex-r00t-x: you have the right line, just wrong place09:24
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x-r00t-xmalikeye,  its just worked fine :D09:24
malikeyenice09:24
malikeyeyou want the root one too ?09:24
thoreauputic!paste | Shocka31109:24
ubotuShocka311: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)09:24
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x-r00t-xTHank you so much09:24
timtrimblemalikeye:  i kinda figured it would, just because everything worked perfectly, first try, on my laptop09:24
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x-r00t-xmalikeye,  yes09:24
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lynucshey guys, is there any software solution to transcode videos for example avin into dvd??? like nero vision for windows??09:25
rpereiraShocka311: Don't worry with hda5 is your SWAP partition... Your virtual memory.... And Don't paste here....09:25
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ciusquestion about xorg, I have multiple device, monitor, and screen sections setup for my two monitors, my computer monitor and my television.  the television is screen 1, and computer monitor is screen 0.  if I setup a server layout for just the television, should "startx -- -layout TVOnly" not start xorg only upon the television?  TVOnly would be the identifier of the server layout for just the tv.09:25
malikeyex-r00t-x: export PS1='\[\033[01;31m\] \h\[\033[01;34m\]  \W \$\[\033\]  '09:25
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rpereiraShocka311: Use the pastebin or only in a pvt chat.09:25
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timtrimblecius:  most likely, yes09:25
thoreauputic!guidelines09:25
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines09:25
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timtrimblei recently was trying to do the same thing and had to fool with it for quite a while before I could get it to start in exclusively the TV mode09:26
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Shocka311rpereira: k i'm in fstab09:26
ifwrhow do I rip and encode files from a cd? I have been having endless problems with this!09:26
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_3ljis there a way of making apt-cache search break for each page? so it doesnt just list them all and i only see the last page :-(09:26
nolimitsoyaifwr, i can recommend abcde09:26
malikeyeifwr: it's an art :)09:26
ciustimtrimble, were there any specific things you had to do?  unusual settings maybe?09:26
stefg!serpentine09:26
ubotuserpentine: an application for mastering audio CD. In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.91-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 75 kB, installed size 668 kB09:26
timtrimblecius:  what kind of gfx card?  ati or nvidia?09:26
x-r00t-xmalikeye, where do i add that code for root?09:26
Shocka311rpereira: there is the /dev/hda509:26
malikeyeifwr: dvdrip is nice, but I haven't been able to get audio / video synced correctly with it09:26
JayTee52I keep getting a GDM greeter crashing error whenever I type a single character at the login screen in Edgy. Has anyone else had this problem and found a fix?09:26
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thoreauputic_3lj: apt-cache search <words> | less09:27
rpereiraShocka311: Create a new line on the end of file.09:27
malikeyex-r00t-x: same, at the bottom of ~/.bashrc09:27
ifwrI installed abcde but when I type abcde in the terminal it saysoggenc is not in your path09:27
ciustimtrimble, I have two more layouts, one for monitor only and one for tv and monitor and both work.  I have an nvidia card.09:27
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x-r00t-xmalikeye,  not working .... :(09:27
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_3ljthoreauputic: thanks :-D09:27
malikeyeifwr: oh you are talking audio, sorry....09:27
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thoreauputic_3lj: np :)09:27
malikeyepastebin your /root/.bashrc09:27
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ciustimtrimble, the TVOnly layout is the only one giving me trouble...  :-)09:27
malikeye^^^ x-r00t-x09:27
Shocka311rpereira: k09:27
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nolimitsoyaifwr, you need to install teh ogg encoder, och switch to another encoder in the config file09:27
timtrimblecius:  i know exactly what you mean.09:27
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timtrimblecius:  i looked in the nvidia docs and eventually figured it out, let me see here, though.09:28
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x-r00t-xmalikeye, sorry?09:28
Shocka311rpereira: do I just start typing or is there a command09:28
ifwri have ogg commented out and lame not commented out but I still get the error09:28
nolimitsoyaifwr, i recommend you use flac instead of ogg...09:28
lynucshey guys, is there any software solution to transcode videos for example avin into dvd??? like nero vision for windows??09:28
ifwrI really want to use lame and it is installed just fine09:28
ciustimtrimble, would you mind possible pastebinning your xorg.conf for me?  I can compare it to mine and see if I see any major differences09:28
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nolimitsoyaifwr, its not about commenting out, its about changing a line. read the manual on editing09:28
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stjepananybody here knows how to make metacity themes?09:29
Waldmeistastefg does my /dev/sda3 linux partition have to have the boot flag set for that to work??09:29
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ShackEvening09:29
nolimitsoyastjepan, there might be some docs on gnome-look.org09:29
malikeyex-r00t-x: the root colors work fine here, are you sure you have it at the bottom of ~root/.bashrc ?09:29
stefgWaldmeista: sorry, i have no clue what you're talking about ...09:29
ShackCould someone help me a little bit with my wlan installing?09:29
mwalker_mewconsuanyone able to install drivers for Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi?09:29
ShackI followed instructions at : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT7309:29
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malikeyemwalker_mewconsu: they don't exist09:29
nolimitsoyamwalker_mewconsu, xfi is unsupported09:29
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timtrimblecius - i assume you're using s-video, for "TVOutFormat", do you have "SVIDEO" or "S-VIDEO"?09:30
Shackbut for some reason I'm missin rt73.ko file?09:30
mwalker_mewconsudo I have any other options?09:30
ciustimtrimble, I have S-Video09:30
mwalker_mewconsuor I am I just without sound09:30
malikeyemwalker_mewconsu: different card09:30
ShackI've done like told at howto09:30
mwalker_mewconsudoh09:30
timtrimblecius:  change it to "SVIDEO" without a dash09:30
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timtrimblenbrb09:30
malikeyeyou got onboard audio for a temp solution ?09:30
rpereiraAnd type this: /dev/hdb1          /home/user/hdslave             ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       109:30
x-r00t-xmalikeye, can you edit it for me and paste it to pastebin again? http://pastebin.com/84388909:30
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nolimitsoyamwalker_mewconsu, send creative an angry letter, and hope they change their mind about making linux drivers :)09:30
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rpereiraShocka311: And type this: /dev/hdb1          /home/user/hdslave             ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       109:31
Waldmeistastefg with gparted you can assign various flags to partitions like boot, hidden, lba, lvm, palo, prep, raid - my primary windows partition for example has a boot flag set09:31
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malikeyesupposedly they will have xi-fi drivers this year :)09:31
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ciustimtrimble, I'll try that, but I think I've tried it before. I'll brb, gonna see if it works.09:31
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malikeyex-r00t-x: you can't just add the line to the bottom of the file ? :)09:31
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_3ljooh, im installing xfonts-100dpi-transcoded via apt-get, and it says it has installed and newest version, but at teh end of each install it says (warning the usr/lib/x11/fonts/75dpi) doesnt exist, is this normal :-/?09:31
Waldmeista@anyone: does my /dev/sda3 linux partition have to have the boot flag set for that to work??09:31
x-r00t-xmalikeye, can you give me those 2 line again . please09:31
x-r00t-xi have just lost 1 line09:32
stefgWaldmeista: ah... don't worry. grub takes care of that, it's only the stupid DOS bootloader which needs 'active'-flags09:32
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nolimitsoyacan i resize a partition and xfs filesystem towards the beginning of the drive, if so how?09:32
timtrimblecius:  k, i think it was something wierd like that09:32
thoreauputicWaldmeista: linux doesn't need the bootable flag for a bootable partition as long as grub points at your kernel09:32
malikeyex-r00t-x: this is root : export PS1='\[\033[01;31m\] \h\[\033[01;34m\]  \W \$\[\033\]  '09:32
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Shocka311rpereira: does it matter where it is placet on the window or just that it is in that order?09:32
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syte_hi09:32
jared_I installed frostwire from the ubuntu deb package (off the site) and it said I needed a new version of java, so i installed the sun-j2re1.5 package, and it still says I have 1.4 installed when I go to open frostwire09:32
malikeyex-r00t-x: this is everyone else : export PS1='\[\033[01;32m\] \u@\h\[\033[01;34m\]  \w \$\[\033\]  '09:32
LinuxNewb7331howdy, I just installed ubuntu and am having a problem with my video09:33
syte_Has any had experience with the "out of range" error?09:33
mattva01hmm i have a wierd problem with synaptic09:33
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nolimitsoyasyte_, restart in safe mode and edit you xorg.conf09:33
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nolimitsoyaLinuxNewb7331, just ask you question, please09:33
helton_bhzquit09:33
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Waldmeistaok, i think i made it now, my primary master is seen as second disk which leads to hd1 in grub: root(hd1,2) worked fine09:33
malikeyex-r00t-x: keep in mind this is static, so if you add users, you will need to add that line to each of their .bashrc files09:33
rpereiraShocka311: It will be like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38553/09:33
oidiaanyone got a ready libfish.so compiled for amd?09:33
syte_well...i'm a bit new....so exactly how should i be editing it?09:34
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Waldmeistanow waiting for the reboot......hopefully it will be booting ubuntu then09:34
ifwrabcde -ch lame -o mp3   -> config file "h" cannot be found09:34
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LinuxNewb7331I have an nvidia card, would the driver be the most likely problem, if so how would I fix it09:34
rpereiraShocka311: Did you check my pastebin with your file?09:34
Waldmeistadamn, didn't work...09:34
tigafan09Please help! Is there any known way to get Ubuntu 6.10 to work with JMICRON?09:34
mattva01whenever I try to install something using synaptic  it tries to configure vmware and fails09:34
nolimitsoyasyte_, try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' instead, and youll get a wizard09:34
aragorn_elessar_Hi all! I have a series of message like this in dmesg : Dec 23 14:22:29 ubuntu kernel: [17180104.524000]  IN= OUT=eth0 SRC=192.168.0.2 DST=212.216.172.62 LEN=59 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=58835 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=32771 DPT=53 LEN=3909:34
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Waldmeistai don't know what went wrong..09:34
x-r00t-xmalikeye,  its just worked for both users. how do i change the blue color to something like white ?09:34
thoreauputicsyte_: easier and better is to run  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:34
mattva01however the program still installs09:34
un_operateur!nvidia | LinuxNewb733109:34
ubotuLinuxNewb7331: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:34
mattva01its really annoying09:34
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aragorn_elessar_it's normal?09:34
un_operateurLinuxNewb7331, check the howto posted up there to verify if you have the right settings for your particular card09:35
thoreauputicnolimitsoya: sorry missed your post then :)09:35
malikeyex-r00t-x: not sure, you will need to lookup bash colors or something like that and find a chart09:35
syte_thoreauputic: i've tried that several times. Unless i choose vesa, it shows me the out of range error09:35
Anon58488how can i use apt-get to install a program in a certain directory?09:35
ifwrnolimitsoya, I changed hte config file, but :     abcde -ch lame -o mp3   -> config file "h" cannot be found09:35
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Shocka311rpereira: k one sec09:35
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LinuxNewb7331i've been there and it tells me to do things like "click this button" and whatnot, but I can't see any buttons, i can only work in cmd mode, or shell, or whatever it is09:35
un_operateurmalikeye, x-r00t-x - ansi colour codes / sequences09:35
thoreauputicsyte_: use the advanced option and set your h and v sync rates09:35
tigafan09is there anyway to get ubuntu to work with jmicron?09:35
nolimitsoyaifwr, if youve edited your configs right you dont need to pass any options09:35
thoreauputicsyte_: they should be in the monitor manual09:36
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syte_kk thx a lot dude09:36
tigafan09please help?09:36
Shocka311rpereira: k got it all there09:36
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malikeyex-r00t-x: if you want it to be dynamic, you can add this : http://pastebin.com/843903 to the end of your /etc/bash.bashrc09:36
rpereiraShocka311: Without the number in the beginning of the line of course...09:36
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rpereiraShocka311: :-)09:37
daggerxummm i installed the Xgl and compiz, but i cant get it to give 3d effects...how can i check if its running?09:37
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tigafan09hello?09:37
Shocka311rpereira: of course :)09:37
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tigafan09Would someone mind helping me?09:37
malikeyetimtrimble: dmesg shows that it finds your cards, and alsa allocates it ?09:37
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malikeyes/cards/card/09:37
ciustimtrimble, there was no change, I got the same error09:37
ixian_hi, im trying to make an .iso file from a cdrom but i cant get it to work. i tried following the directions here ( http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-6509.html ) but when i do "dd if=/dev/cdrom of=win95.iso" it tells me that 'no medium found'. i tried it when the cd was mounted but it doesnt work either09:37
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jared_I installed frostwire from the ubuntu deb package (off the site) and it said I needed a new version of java, so i installed the sun-j2re1.5 package, and it still says I have 1.4 installed when I go to open frostwire09:38
jontec I used this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting to try to fix my sound... and now kmix isn't even detecting my sound card!!! HELP!09:38
rpereiraShocka311: Now your just have to change the owner of the mounted partition.... Just to check: it is mounted, isn't it?09:38
LinuxNewb7331is there a way to do what the wiki says, except through the shell mode?09:38
Anon58488how can i use apt-get to install a program in a certain directory?09:38
daggerxfor path try /media/cdrom and see ifthat works09:38
mnoirtigafan09: google is your friend: look for 'jmicron ubuntu' and start reading09:38
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malikeyeixian_: it shouldn't be mounted when you do that, and you need to make sure of where your cdrom is in the /dev tree09:38
daggerxinstead of /dev/cdrom09:38
thoreauputicjared_: run sudo update-alternatives --config java09:38
jared_thanks :)09:38
timtrimblecius:  i forget what eventually got it to work.  i'll email my xorg.conf if you like09:38
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thoreauputic:)09:38
Shocka311rpereira: yes it still seems to be mounted.  Can I exit out of fstab and I'll check.09:38
ixian_malikeye, well i tried /dev/cdrw but that doesnt work either. how can i found where it is in /dev?09:39
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timtrimblemalikeye:  no clue.09:39
mwalker_mewconsudoes Ubuntu come with preinstalled wireless access software?09:39
daggerx<<<used /media/cdrom   and got it to work instead of /dev/cdrom09:39
tigafan09mnoir... i have been tearing up google looking for the solution, the only thing i can find is threads from months ago09:39
ciustimtrimble, could you pastebin it?09:39
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timtrimblecius:  yeah gimme a sec09:39
malikeyeixian_: try like daggerx said... /media/cdrom09:39
thoreauputicAnon58488: why would you want apt to install something to the wrong directory?09:39
ifwrnolimitsoya, so how do I edit it to not look for oggenc09:39
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alperhi, my ubuntu always logs off, when i type shitf+backspace, how can i turn that off?09:39
malikeyetimtrimble: can you look ? :)09:39
ciustimtrimble, I appreciate it, very much.  :-)09:39
mnoirtigafan09: well It doesn't seem that anybody else here has anything they want to contribute.09:40
Anon58488thoreau: im trying to chroot a program but i require sendmail09:40
Shocka311rpereira: its still mounted09:40
un_operateurixian_, this ought to tell you --  sudo hdparm -i /dev/hd?09:40
timtrimblemalikeye:  hold on09:40
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Anon58488thoreau: i dont want to spend a while installing sendmail by source09:40
alperhi, my ubuntu always logs off, when i type shitf+backspace, how can i turn that off?09:40
SkyrailI'm trying to get two dual screens, anyone got any idea?09:40
timtrimbleskyrail:09:40
thoreauputicAnon58488: would you not install from your chroot?09:40
jared_thoreauputic, well it wasin't in there, so I went back just to make sure it wasn't a dream that i installed it, said the dpkg was interrupted...thanks for the help anyways XD09:40
LinuxNewb7331can anyone help me install an nvidia video driver, if that is the problem, through the text mode?09:40
timtrimblethere are guides on ubuntuforums, skyrail09:40
rpereiraShocka311: Is your username "user"?09:40
Anon58488thoreauputic: how?09:41
Skyrailtimtrimble: ok thanks09:41
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malikeyealper: look for xtrap in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file09:41
tiedehi. I just removed KDE (and therefore kdm) from my system and am coming back to GNOME - KDE is waaaay to bloated :( Now, when the system starts, I have to start gdm myself, it does not load automatically. I tried both dpkg-reconfigure and reinstalling, but to no avail. How do I make gdm load automatically on startup (like it used to before)?09:41
thoreauputicAnon58488: I assume your chroot is a complet Ubuntu with apt etc installed?09:41
malikeyetimtrimble: pastebin it if you can09:41
alperand then?09:41
alpermalikeye,09:41
malikeyeis it there ?09:41
sharperguyWhen I'm editing the live cd (by decompressing the filesystem) can I load an xserver from it (ie by killing gdm, chrooting into it and typing gdm)?09:41
Anon58488thor: chroot is where the user's root directory is changed09:41
alpersec09:41
thoreauputic!chroot | Anon5848809:41
ubotuAnon58488: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box09:41
Anon58488okay09:42
malikeyealper: if not, add it to your "Module" section09:42
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malikeyeLoad        "xtrap"09:42
un_operateurtiede, perhaps this -- sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/gdm /etc/rc2.d/S99gdm09:42
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thoreauputicAnon58488: I know what a chroot is09:42
Shocka311rpereira: yes09:42
ixian_un_operateur, thanks a lot :D turns out it was /dev/hdd09:42
un_operateurixian_, :)09:42
alperwhat was the command to open it malikeye ? sudo...?09:42
alpersudo + further?09:42
grndslmsoo...i've asked this before and gotten a couple different answers:  are the C2Duos really more efficient than the Core Duos?09:42
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Waldmeistaok, the problem with grub not loading at boot time is gone, but now grub doesn09:42
thoreauputicAnon58488: I've used debootstrap to make chroots09:42
malikeyesudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:42
Waldmeistait doesnt load linux correctly09:42
tigafan09I'm tryin to install Ubuntu 6.10 on a computer with an Asus P5W DH Deluxe motherboard (Intel 975X chipset). I think its conflicting with the Jmicron IDE Controller on the board. Any ideas? Please and thanks!09:42
LinuxNewb7331can someone show me how to use synaptic package manager and the like through shell so i can install my nvidia driver?09:42
malikeyebe careful in there though09:43
alperthanks09:43
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alperi know the xorg.conf file09:43
malikeyek09:43
ryanakcaany python geniuses around? I have a question, and nobody in #python seems to know the answer...09:43
un_operateurLinuxNewb7331, why not just folllow the wiki -- time and effort has already been put into it09:43
tiedethanks un_operateur. Let me restart and see if it works now... see you in a few09:43
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un_operateur!nvidia09:43
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:43
timtrimblecius:  http://pastebin.com/84390709:43
Waldmeistathe menu.lst entry says "kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/sda3 ro quiet splash"09:43
rpereiraShocka311: So use the command: sudo chown user /home/user/hdslave09:43
ciusthanks timtrimble09:43
alperthat opens it in the terminal malikeye09:44
LinuxNewb7331I have looked at the wiki, but it says stuff like, "Click this button" "Select Administrator" and I can not get the gui up to do that09:44
un_operateurryanakca, does it involve python programming or something general about python?09:44
alperi want it to open in the text editor09:44
Waldmeistathe /dev/sda3 is my linux partition and the kernel lies in that path also09:44
n2diyLinuxNewb7331: ap-get install package name09:44
malikeyeahh... don't use graphical text editors myself :)09:44
rpereiraShocka311: The command chown is Change Owner.... More info command: man chown09:44
x-r00t-xmalikeye, Thank you so much for your help :)09:44
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Alakazamz0rtimtrimble,09:44
un_operateurLinuxNewb7331, well, check, and double check -- if at that stage you still cant find it-- then ask us09:44
malikeyex-r00t-x: welcome09:44
Alakazamz0rthis is wrong09:44
LinuxNewb7331thanks n2diy09:44
Alakazamz0r#09:44
Alakazamz0r@    HorizSync 30-5009:44
Alakazamz0r#09:44
Alakazamz0r@    VertRefresh 6009:44
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ryanakcaun_operateur: umm... somewheres in the middle... I'm thinking might be a bug... /msg?09:44
un_operateur!paste | Alakazamz0r09:44
ubotuAlakazamz0r: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)09:44
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x-r00t-xmalikeye,  i got one more thing .. lamme paste it on pastebin09:44
timtrimbleyes, alakazamz0r?09:44
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Alakazamz0rsorry un_operateur i wasn't trying to paste anything09:45
Alakazamz0rtimtrimble, do you have an LCS?09:45
Alakazamz0rLCD*09:45
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un_operateurryanakca, well, i'm no python guru -- but what is it anyway?09:45
LinuxNewb7331un_op, what do you mean at that stage?  I boot it up, the ubuntu loading screen is miscolored, and I see a garbled mess09:45
Waldmeistaanyone?09:45
malikeyebueler09:46
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Alakazamz0rWaldmeista, whats the problem again?09:46
timtrimblealakazamz0r:  i'm helping someone else, I'm not asking for help.  I already have my tv working.  and it's a crt, not an lcd.  =)09:46
Savage-{there a good AIGLX howto anywhere for 6.10>?09:46
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malikeyeSavage-{: which vid card ?09:46
Savage-{nvidia09:46
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malikeye!aiglx09:46
ubotuAIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.09:46
Savage-{thx09:46
x-r00t-xmalikeye,  take a look http://pastebin.com/84391009:46
malikeyeit's in the driver, so you should be good, just need to set i tup09:46
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Waldmeistagrub  doesnt load linux correctly09:47
malikeyethink it's as simple as a one liner, haven't done it in a while09:47
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majestikwhere are the apache configuration files?, when i type localhost in browser it sends me to apache-default/index.html09:47
Waldmeistathe menu.lst entry says "kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/sda3 ro quiet splash"09:47
tiede /msg NickServ IDENTIFY truce55509:47
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Alakazamz0roh timtrimble09:47
Alakazamz0rhehe09:47
malikeyewoops  ? :)09:47
Waldmeistathats correct but when selecting that entry on the grub boot menu it says "error partition not found"09:47
timtrimblehehe alakazamz0r09:47
Alakazamz0rWaldmeista, can you elaborate?09:47
arnold__Hi Im having trouble connecting to WEP enabled networks09:47
malikeyex-r00t-x: what I am looking at ?09:47
Alakazamz0rWaldmeista, do you have a SATA or an IDE drive?09:48
Skyrailanyone know if I can get free shipit CDs with the server version of ubuntu on it?09:48
arnold__I enter the correct key but the connection never works09:48
forevertheunihello. I'm using fglrx in my laptop and I wanted beryl/compiz..so I need xgl ..I can run xgl..however I don't have direct rendering in Xgl(with normal Xorg session it works fine) I have xgl option in gdm  what can I do?09:48
x-r00t-xmalikeye,  i got those LS color . thatz it :) and i want to sure it with you09:48
Alakazamz0rDid you let Ubuntu partition the whole drive automaticaly for you?09:48
Waldmeistathe linux partition is on /dev/sda3 and /dev/sda is my primary master - a sata device09:48
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tiedeun_operateur, I did as you said, and now it works. I wonder why the link was broken in the first place...09:48
malikeyex-r00t-x: that is all that is in /etc/bash.bashrc ?09:48
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x-r00t-xmalikeye,  yes09:48
arnold__can anyone help?09:48
tiedewell, anyhow, thanks for the help!09:49
WaldmeistaAlakazamz0r after doing the installation from the desktop live cd i still had windows booting instead of grub so i booted the cd again09:49
x-r00t-xnope its on ~/.bashrc09:49
daggerxanyone know how to get TVT2 usb tv tuner to work?09:49
un_operateurtiede, errm.. it probably exists -- check -- ls -l /etc/rc2.d/*gdm09:49
Shocka311rpereira: it says canot acess there is no known user09:49
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malikeyex-r00t-x: yer losin me :)09:49
Shocka311 or file name i mean09:49
Waldmeistaand typed root(hd1,2) an setup(hd1) on the grub commandline09:49
lynucshow to make a DVD out of an .avi with avidemux???09:49
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forevertheuniwhois rpereira09:49
radar_1976ok  has anyone found a problem with firefox 2 locking up on PPC09:49
x-r00t-xmalikeye, sorry09:49
forevertheuniups :d09:49
Alakazamz0rWaldmeista, do this "fdisk -l /dev/sda09:49
forevertheuniehehe09:49
Alakazamz0r"09:49
ttrocalOn Edgy and Hoary, a SD card of mine keeps being mounted as read only, even if I specify -w on the mount command.  This didn't used to happen.  The physical lock toggle on the SD card is off.  What can I do to make it read/write?09:49
x-r00t-xok i gotta go09:49
x-r00t-xbbl09:49
un_operateurryanakca, do you see me?09:49
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lynucs!avidemux09:49
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ubotuavidemux: a small editing software for avi (especially DivX). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:2.1.2-0.0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 2738 kB, installed size 6956 kB09:49
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ifwrnolimitsoya, what does "config file "h" cannot be found" mean?09:49
malikeyex-r00t-x: later09:49
Skyrailcan I only download the server version of Ubuntu ratehr then getting it on disc09:50
ryanakcaun_operateur: yes09:50
Skyrail?09:50
Shocka311 are file directories case sensitive?09:50
forevertheunihello. I'm using fglrx in my laptop and I wanted beryl/compiz..so I need xgl ..I can run xgl..however I don't have direct rendering in Xgl(with normal Xorg session it works fine) I have xgl option in gdm  what can I do?09:50
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mnoirShocka311: yes09:50
malikeyeShocka311: everyhing in *NIX is case sensitive09:50
malikeyefor the most part09:50
rpereiraShocka311: Yes09:50
ryanakcaun_operateur: well, no... I don't see you... but I see the text you've sent to the IRC server09:50
Alakazamz0rforevertheuni, what kinda video card do you have on it?09:50
diskusforevertheuni: #ubuntu-xgl09:50
LinuxNewb7331i'm trying "sudo apt-get nvidia-glx" but it is telling me "Invalid Operation", plus the HowTo tlaks about linux-restricted-modules09:50
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LinuxNewb7331I need to unlock first09:50
Alakazamz0rLinuxNewb7331, try sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx09:50
un_operateurryanakca, that "peculiarity" has to do with how floating point numbers are represented on your CPU -- it's a problem almost all programming languages face09:50
WaldmeistaAlakazamz0r, ok that gives me all the partitions showing me that /dev/sda3 is the linux partition09:51
malikeyeLinuxNewb7331: di you have multiverse and universe setup ?09:51
forevertheuniAlakazamz0r: radeon900009:51
Skyrailun_operateur: remember before you said learning how to set everything up like a web server, mail server etc? well I installed the right packages sometime a go and got this PC working as a web server :)09:51
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lynucsun_operateur, maybe you know how to convert any videos into DVD?09:51
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Shocka311rpereira: k it worked that time, let me see if i can acess it now09:51
LinuxNewb7331I don't know what it is09:51
un_operateurlynucs, not really -- I dont like CDs/DVDs sorry :(09:51
malikeye!universe09:51
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource09:51
forevertheuni:( I want an nvidia in my laptop(like this one I'm using :( )09:51
LinuxNewb7331I dont know what multiverse and universe is09:51
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lynucs:(09:51
malikeyeLinuxNewb7331: check those links09:51
rpereiraShocka311: OK.09:51
ryanakcaun_operateur: ok, and how would I fix it? (I don't?)09:51
ifwrwhy does abcde say "config file "h" cannot be found" ?09:52
un_operateurSkyrail, thats great -- keep at it :)09:52
malikeyethey are repositories that you need to enable09:52
malikeyefro nvidia binary drivers09:52
diskusforevertheuni: well I would just wait for beta or final version of xgl/compiz/beryl..09:52
Skyrailun_operateur: I failed at the FTP server though :(09:52
Shocka311rpereira: do I need to reboot or anything?09:52
DarthLappyifwr, What command are you trying to use?09:52
rpereiraShocka311: No...09:52
Alakazamz0rWaldmeista, /dev/sda3 is your ROOT partition?09:52
LinuxNewb7331thank  you Alakazamz0r for the install command, its actually doing something now09:52
malikeyeifwr: is there a /etc/abcde.conf ?09:52
diskusforevertheuni: or actualy I'm waiting already, I have xpress 200M on laptop :P09:52
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_3ljwhat should startx show when i dont have any window manager installed? should it just be a crissy cross screen with an xterm up?09:52
Alakazamz0rgood LinuxNewb733109:53
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WaldmeistaAlakazamz0r what does root partition mean? it's the partition i installed my linux into09:53
diskus_3lj: yes09:53
un_operateurryanakca, I'm not sure how python does it -- some method in the math library maybe -- floor/round.. something like that ..09:53
tiedehmmm, well, it still did not work until I did as you said... the output is lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 2006-12-23 15:42 /etc/rc2.d/S99gdm -> /etc/init.d/gdm     I don't know, as long as it is working now... It's still odd that installing ubuntu-desktop, reconfuguring everything with dpkg-reconfigure -a (since reconfiguring gdm alone at first did not work), uninstalling and reinstalling gdm did not make it work.... It works now, right. So there's09:53
tiedenothing to complain about... Thanks again un_operateur09:53
timtrimble_3lj:  someting like that09:53
_3ljresult :-D09:53
Alakazamz0r/dev/hda1   *           1       23956   192426538+  83  Linux09:53
Alakazamz0rthats my root partition.09:53
rpereiraShocka311: try: ls -la /home/user and paste at pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/09:53
_3ljthank you all, esp stefg :-)09:53
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un_operateurtiede, odd -- I cant explain why that is09:53
forevertheunidiskus: :( actually I want a new laptop :d lool (this stink.my dad mom a girlfriend all have new laptops..and :( poor me :D)09:53
ifwryes there is a abcde.conf file09:54
diskusforevertheuni: well if you're going to get one try to go with nvidia or intel09:54
lollolloso gayo09:54
dead1ockhi09:54
diskusforevertheuni: graphic card I mean09:54
raxiphi09:54
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lolhu09:54
WaldmeistaAlakazamz0r look at pastebin.com/843914 that the dump09:54
forevertheunidiskus: y..my mom's laptop is an nvidia..i'm running my usb ubuntu on it now :D09:54
Shocka311rpereira: it is letting me write on the hard drive now but I still can't access the lost and found file to delete it, but thats ok09:54
ifwrDarthLappy, -ch lame -o mp309:55
-lol:#ubuntu- :O09:55
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un_operateurryanakca, --  print str( 2 / 5.0 )  :)09:55
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rpereiraShocka311: You can't delete de Lost and Found.....09:55
Alakazamz0ryeah, dev/sda3 is your root09:55
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DarthLappyifwr, -ch'd be doing it I think.09:55
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un_operateurSkyrail, well, which FTPd are you using?09:55
ryanakcaun_operateur: kk, thanks09:56
rpereiraShocka311: This is a directory to adminstration of the partition....09:56
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normmacthe drivers for the Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11g (rev 3) have a link on the wiki but the link is dead and i'm having trouble finding drivers in google,, anyone know where i can get them09:56
rpereiraShocka311: I believe that it will not appear on Graphical Interface....09:56
Alakazamz0rWaldmeista, im going to dump my /boot/grub/menu.lst for you09:56
lol!Paste09:56
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)09:56
Alakazamz0rhttp://pastebin.com/84391609:56
LjLlol: in a *private* query please09:56
canardook i am just being daft but at the login screen how can i just login to a command prompt without starting x on edgy09:56
Shocka311repreira: this is the old lost and found that it would not erase in my origional format09:56
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canardotrying to get my 6150 to output at 1366x76809:57
WaldmeistaAlakazamz0r mine is the same except that it's hd1,209:57
un_operateurcanardo, press CTRL+ALT+F109:57
Shocka311rpereira: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38557/09:58
Alakazamz0rWaldmeista, whats the error you're getting again?09:58
canardothanks un_operateur :)09:58
raxipunsure09:58
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canardoi have been doing ctrl alt esc :)09:58
Shocka311rpereira: thats where it is showing up09:58
Waldmeistawhen selecting the ubuntu... entry on the grub menu while booting it shows "error <i dunno the number>: partition not found"09:58
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dead1ockthat's a secret09:58
canardobe back shortly can hopefully help someone else out :)09:58
un_operateurcanardo, CTRL+AKT+F7 to get back09:58
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canardothanks09:58
un_operateurALT*09:59
rpereiraShocka311: Now paste the result of this command: sudo ls -la /home/user/Hdslave09:59
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timtrimblewhaaaaaaaaaaat is going on09:59
un_operateursudo ls ?09:59
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Alakazamz0rWaldmeista, do you have root            (hd0,0)10:00
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rpereiraun_operateur: I don't know if his directory is readeble by the user "user".10:00
Alakazamz0rbrb10:00
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Waldmeistano, because as I said before i did a root(hd1,2) on the grub commandline because my linux partition is on /dev/sda310:00
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Shocka311rpereira: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38560/10:01
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DarthLappyWaldmeista, ...Shouldn't that be root(hd0,2) then?10:01
malikeyeWaldmeista: shouldn't that be (hd0,2) ?10:01
malikeyehaha10:01
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malikeyeWaldmeista: what you have there is /dev/sdb310:02
un_operateurrpereira, if that mount point was mounted via pmount he should be able to read from it without the need to sudo10:02
Waldmeistaactually it should, because the disk is my primary master, but that didn't work hd0 seems to be my primary slave (ide disk)10:02
Shocka311rpereira: engagement pics is the file I used to test it.10:02
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malikeyeWaldmeista: thats impossible10:02
malikeyeas far as I know10:03
Waldmeistawhen I do root(hd0,2) i get a "error 22: no such partition" on grub10:03
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malikeyedoes it exist ?10:03
malikeyeis it mounted ?10:03
KeenEarswhy all apps that i`m intalling don`t go to programs menu ? is it intended ? or i missing smth? (using apt-get and synaptic)10:03
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LinuxNewb7331I got the video card up!  Thanks Alakazamz0, uboto, and un_operateur for all y'alls help10:03
KeenEarsalmost all10:03
rpereiraun_operateur: But it is mounted with "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt"10:04
KeenEarsusing dapper10:04
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Waldmeistamalikeye i mounted /dev/sda3 as /mnt10:04
polemarchusdoes anyone else here use irssi?10:04
malikeyeit needs to be mounted as /boot10:04
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KeenEarsnot that it`s very hard but very annoying10:04
un_operateurKeenEars, maybe you need to enable some of those apps in the menu -- at a terminal -- gmenu-simple-editor10:04
malikeyehold up10:04
confuciusMD. 10:04
KeenEarsah i`ll try10:04
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malikeyeyou need a boot partition, one does not exist10:05
SurfnKidhow can i reset the audio device10:05
rpereiraShocka311: Just to not forget, let's change the file /etc/fstab, because yout directory hdslave is Hdslave (case sensitive).10:05
un_operateurLinuxNewb7331, yw10:05
SurfnKidwhen it says its used by another program10:05
SurfnKidwhen its not10:05
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rpereiraShocka311: sudo gedit /etc/fstab10:05
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YawnerAnyone know where program preferences are stored? Basically I set gedit I believe to be visable on all desktops, but now everytime I right-click on it on the App-Bar it produces a crash file.. I basically want to manually set the gnome preferences for gedit to not be always visable, (It continues through restarts)10:05
Waldmeistamalikeye: to get that right: i'm now working on the live cd10:05
Nevermore-Laphi everyone10:05
Waldmeistaand the /boot dir exists10:05
SurfnKid!helper10:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about helper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:05
rpereiraShocka311: Change "hdslave" to "Hdslave" ...10:05
Nevermore-Lapwhat firewall should i install10:05
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KeenEarsi need to restart my session ?10:05
SurfnKid`help10:05
KeenEarsit`s all checked there10:06
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Shocka311Rpereira:10:06
malikeyeWaldmeista: well, you dont NEED a boot, but is the best method... you need to mount /dev/sda3 as / in order for it to create the proper files in /boot10:06
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un_operateurNevermore-Lap, iptables and firestarter10:06
Shocka311rpereira: k10:06
Alakazamz0rok10:06
Waldmeistamalikeye: how do I do that since I already have a / from the live cd now?10:06
Nevermore-Lapun_operateur, so i install firestarter, iptables is included right?10:06
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KeenEarsun_operateur: i need to restart my session ? it`s all checked there10:06
Schiz0hey, i'd like to know how to run the sshd deamon in ubuntu server10:06
malikeyeyou need to chroot in10:06
Alakazamz0rSchiz0,10:06
malikeyeWaldmeista: you have the install done already ?10:06
Alakazamz0raptitude install openssh-server10:07
un_operateurNevermore-Lap, I shuold think so -- it probably depends on iptables to install10:07
Nevermore-Lapthanks un_operateur10:07
Waldmeistayes, but my problem is I can't boot it, so I just booted the live cd again10:07
reversebladeWhat is special about Sabayon Linux ?10:07
Nevermore-Lapis there anyone that was able to change the key binding on gaim 2?10:07
un_operateurKeenEars, probably yes10:07
ubuntunewbiehello. can anyone help me with the sound issues i'm having?10:07
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malikeyeWaldmeista: k... so mount it anywhere ( I know, confusing ).... then do a : chroot /$MNT /bin/bash10:07
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KeenEarsthanx !10:07
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malikeyethat will basically inject you into the sda3 install10:08
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ecastrohi everybody!10:08
ubuntunewbiei've tried installing alsa-driver, lib, util, oss... nothing is working10:08
Shocka311rpereira: I forgot to save it before anyway, let me put it all back in10:08
Waldmeistaok, did that10:08
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malikeyeWaldmeista: so you are in ?10:08
malikeyels -la / looks like the sda3 install ?10:08
rpereiraShocka311: Now, I won't recommend for you to delete directory lost+found... Read: http://doc.vic.computerbank.org.au/tutorials/linuxdirectorystructure/10:08
Schiz0Alakazamz0r, how do i get the root passwd?10:08
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malikeye!root10:09
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.10:09
un_operateurubuntunewbie, I'd play about here if i were you -- gnome-sound-properties10:09
Alakazamz0rSchiz0, you dont need a root password10:09
Alakazamz0rsudo -i10:09
Alakazamz0rthen your password will give you root access10:09
ecastroI've just installed ubuntu 6.10 and i really have to admit it: it is totally great... i'm going to remove gentoo immediatly from my pc. Dispite this i have some doubts, for instance, what soft do you use to burn cd's?! There is a default app but it is for burning audio cd's only...10:09
Waldmeistai dunno if it looks like it, it looks just like the live cd /10:09
rpereiraShocka311: It has to be like this one: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38563/10:09
ubuntunewbieun_operateur, it keeps giving me Totem could not open resource for writing"10:09
malikeyeWaldmeista: ok, well if you can't tell, then just try to install grub into the boot record like normal10:10
Shocka311rpereira: I'm not gonna even worry about that. its a very  small folder and as long as I can access the hard drive i'm happy.10:10
Nevermore-Lapun_operateur: did u play with gaim keybinding? i did but im unable to make them work10:10
un_operateurecastro, k3b is probably already installed -- althought i cant be sure10:10
Schiz0Alakazamz0r, it doesn't let me run the binary =\10:10
un_operateurubuntunewbie, thats probably because the sound device isnt properly setup10:10
DarthLappyun_operateur, I wouldn't think so, on a Gnome environment.10:10
Alakazamz0rSchiz0, what do you mean10:10
ecastroun_operateur: but it depends on qt... isnt there a burning tool written in gtk?10:11
abarbacciaanybody know how to use oss with ubuntu dapper? having serious issues10:11
malikeyegnome-baker10:11
malikeyexcdroast10:11
ubuntunewbieun_operateur, is there a site i can go to so that i can set it up properly? i think i've been to 200 sites showing me how to do it.10:11
un_operateurNevermore-Lap, I dont use gaim all that much -- what do you mean exactly by keybindings?? keyboard shortcuts?10:11
Nevermore-Lapyep10:11
rpereiraShocka311: This is a System Directory.... It's like to remove c:/windows/system32.... :-D10:11
Waldmeistamalikeye: what is like normal? is it grub-install root-directory= ...10:11
Nevermore-Lapi want to send msg by ctrl-return un_operateur10:11
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ubuntunewbiealsaconf detected the sound card... but when i do a 'alsamixer', it gave me like snd_ctl_open fail default10:12
un_operateurubuntunewbie, -- at a terminal -- type this command out -- gnome-sound-properties10:12
Schiz0Alakazamz0r,  when i type sudo -i aptitude install openssh-server, i need to put a password entry, so i use the password of my user10:12
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Schiz0and10:12
malikeyeWaldmeista: however you were doing it before... I usually go into grub itself and then mess with the commands inside10:12
ubuntunewbieok10:12
Schiz0i get a message10:12
Schiz0that i can't run the binary10:12
Alakazamz0rSchiz0, "sudo aptitude install openssh-server"10:12
un_operateurNevermore-Lap, hmm, i'm not sure10:12
malikeyeWaldmeista: just type grub to get into grub10:12
_3ljhmm, can i check with someone, in there xconf file, where do there fonts point to? is it /usr/share/fonts/X11 or /usr/lib/X11/fonts (mine points to one, but the fonts are located in the other :-/)10:12
ubuntunewbieun_operateur, it won't let me select the default sound card10:13
Nevermore-Lapun_operateur: i followed the guide to add keybinding but no effect...so is ok, i was wondering if there is someone who make it work10:13
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Schiz0great10:13
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Schiz0Alakazamz0r, i asume that the server does not come with X server10:13
malikeyeWaldmeista: you do understand what you are doing right ? looks like you are trying to dualboot... which can get tricky10:13
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Waldmeistamalikeye: i have a doc here saying i must do a "mount -o bind /dev /mnt/ubuntu/dev" before for the chroot-system to know the deviced10:13
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Alakazamz0rSchiz0, no10:13
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Alakazamz0rwell yes10:13
peter_thello ubuntu people10:13
Alakazamz0rX forwarding10:13
un_operateurubuntunewbie, at the terminal -- what does this do??  speaker-test10:13
Shocka311rpereira: that makes sense.  Thank you so much for your help, I think its working now10:13
Waldmeistamalikeye: i'm trying to set up everything so that i can choose the os (ubuntu, windows) at boot time in grub10:14
ubuntunewbieun_operateur, Playback open error: No such device10:14
peter_tI'm trying to get my wireless network working with WPA authentication...10:14
normmacis there a way to turn up the brightness on a gateway laptop that underwindows you need the Fn key and that doesn't work in ubuntu10:14
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ubuntunewbieand it keeps doing it over and over again10:14
rpereiraShocka311: No problem.... And merry Xmas for you....10:14
malikeyeWaldmeista: ok, then do that then....mount -o bind blah blah... make sure to mount it under $MNT though10:14
dobblegowhen I lock the screen on dapper, I am not able to log back in - "password incorrect" - similar issue to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=99903 but the given solution does not work (change with passwd) - wtf is going on?10:14
Schiz0Alakazamz0r, ok, after installing the openssh server how do i set up the deamon to run at startup?10:14
ubuntunewbieALSA lib pcm_hw.c:1357:(_snd_pcm_hw_open) Invalid value for card10:14
ubuntunewbieALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:864:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave10:14
ubuntunewbiePlayback open error: -19,No such device10:14
rpereiraBefore I forget: Merry Xmas for all you....10:14
ubuntunewbiethat10:14
Shocka311rpereira: you as well10:14
Alakazamz0rSchiz0, it'll do it automaticaly.10:14
un_operateurubuntunewbie, always address me in your messages so i can spot your replies  -- anyway -- what does this list?  asoundconf list10:15
Schiz0Alakazamz0r, oh and in case i don't want it to run at start up?10:15
Alakazamz0rsudo aptitude install bum10:15
KeenEarsapt-get install happy_xmas !10:15
Alakazamz0rthats a boot up manager.10:15
un_operateur!paste > ubuntunewbie10:15
ubuntunewbieun_operateur, Names of available sound cards:10:15
ubuntunewbieun_operateur, and thats all she wrote10:15
tiedeHi again. Another annoyance. After removing KDE from my system, my themes are no longer properly set. In KDE's settings, there was an option to select which theme to use with gnome apps, and I tried using KDE's to make it consistent. However, when I logged in gnome, it would crash the theme-manager. So I made it use the Human theme instead. The problem is with KDE uninstalled, if I choose a theme other than Human, not all the style's preference10:15
tiedes change, namely the scrollbar, the buttons, etc... How do I fix this?10:15
peter_tI installed network manager gnome (trying to get WPA option), but it doesn't acknowledge any wireless connection...10:16
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checkmatedoes ubuntu utilize dual core processors?10:16
malikeyecheckmate: yes10:16
un_operateurubuntunewbie, ok .. what you need to do is experiment with the different cards -- try setting each one indivually as the default with -- asoundconf set-default-card CARD10:16
Waldmeistamalikeye: ok, seemed to work now, (didn't boot yet). the results are here: http://pastebin.com/84392310:16
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checkmateexcellent, because i'm getting one10:16
checkmatethanks malikeye10:16
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malikeyeWaldmeista: let me check10:16
un_operateurubuntunewbie, where CARD is the name of the card obviously10:17
Schiz0Alakazamz0r, and how should i use it?10:17
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normmacis there anywy to turn up the brightness on my laptop screen?10:17
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Waldmeistaas you can see, my /dev/sda is recognized as hd110:17
ubuntunewbieun_operateur, how is the name suppose to look like? eg:- ens1371 ?10:17
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ubuntunewbieun_operateur, or the full name?10:17
Alakazamz0rSchiz0, open bum and check or uncheck the services you want to start or not to start?10:17
un_operateurubuntunewbie, exactly as how it is listed10:17
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ChevronXHey guy s, how do I hide my home directory from other users?10:17
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ubuntunewbieun_operateur, listed where? in lspci ?10:17
un_operateurubuntunewbie, if the cards have spaces -- include them "like this"10:18
Schiz0Alakazamz0r,10:18
Schiz0dcg@dcgames:~$ sudo bum10:18
Schiz0sudo: bum: command not found10:18
Schiz0dcg@dcgames:~$10:18
un_operateurubuntunewbie, no dude -- under asoundconf list .. lol10:18
malikeyeWaldmeista: yup, I wasn't sure about what you were talkin about... SATA doesn't have a master / slave design. SATA channels only allow one drive10:18
Schiz0i already installed it10:18
malikeyeWaldmeista: that grub output looks good to me10:18
n2diySchiz0: sudo updatedb, and then try it.10:18
ubuntunewbieun_operateur, asoundconf list did not show any cards10:18
Alakazamz0rSchiz0, sudo aptitude install bum10:18
malikeyeWaldmeista: your a quick study :)10:18
ubuntunewbieun_operateur, it just game me "Names of available sound cards:"10:19
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ChevronXHey guy s, how do I hide my home directory from other users?10:19
ubuntunewbiegave*10:19
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Waldmeistalet's try the reboot10:19
un_operateurubuntunewbie, ohhhh --  i get you now -- my bad my bad :) errm, you'll need to get the sound card installed first10:19
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malikeyeChevronX: chmod 700 /home/$user ?10:19
Schiz0Alakazamz0r,10:19
Schiz0No candidate version found for bum10:19
dobblegoso to unlock the screen, one must reboot? is that a new feature?10:19
SurfnKidanyone know how to reset the Audio on ubuntu?10:19
Schiz0and i ran the updatedb alrdy10:19
ubuntunewbieun_operateur, eermm... how do i do that?10:19
un_operateurubuntunewbie, I suppose you know the name of the sound card listed via lspci ?10:19
malikeyeWaldmeista: go for it10:20
ubuntunewbieun_operateur, yeah. its: 00:0c.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97]  (rev 08)10:20
ChevronXWhat permissoins is that10:20
SurfnKidWhen using Gxine and RP, ending one allows the other to access it, but random times it doesnt10:20
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w3ccvChevronX, your home directory should be owner,group both your uid, and set to be read,write,exectue(as needed) by user only10:20
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malikeyeChevronX: that is rwx------10:20
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Alakazamz0rSchiz0, updatedb isnt for a fresh list of software packages10:20
tiedewhat Gconf key does KDE modify/create to control gnome's themes?10:20
Alakazamz0rdo an "aptitude update"10:20
Waldmeistamalikeye same results as before: "error 22: no such partition"10:21
malikeyeChevronX: who owns your /home/$user now ?10:21
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ChevronXI do10:21
Waldmeistai don't know what to do..seemed that I didn10:21
Waldmeista't do anything wrong10:21
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_3ljout of curiosity, what is the difference between apt-get and aptitude? (it seems to do the same thing, but is there something im missing?)10:21
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jvaihey ppl, happy holidayz10:21
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malikeyeWaldmeista: paste your grub.conf10:21
Schiz0Alakazamz0r, still i get the same msg that there's no candidate version for bum10:21
Waldmeistaone minute, must boot from the live cd again10:22
rogue780yesterday a computer with xubuntu on it lost power at the beginning of grub loading, and now every once in a while when it boots I get a kernel panic, and I have to hard-reboot it, then it works fine for a while.10:22
Alakazamz0rSchiz0, what version of ubuntu are you using?10:22
Alakazamz0rDapper?10:22
rogue780any idea how to fix this instability?10:22
un_operateurubuntunewbie, at the terminal -- t ry this -- sudo modprobe snd-ens1371   -- and let me know what you see10:22
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Schiz0Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS \n \l10:22
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ubuntunewbieun_operateur, see nothing.. just asked me for my password. i typed it in.. and thats it10:22
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un_operateurubuntunewbie, hmm, maybe it has worked -- what does asoundconf list say now10:23
un_operateur?10:23
Alakazamz0rSchiz0, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Boot-Up_Manager_.28BUM.2910:23
ubuntunewbieun_operateur, nothing10:23
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barielhello, what is the name of the package in the red box? http://www.debianadmin.com/images/wpa/1.png10:23
Schiz0=\10:24
Fed51hola!10:24
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tiede_3lj, apt-get installs only the package you specify and those it depends on. aptitude also install those that are suggested by the package's creator. Same goes with removal.10:24
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Alakazamz0rSchiz0, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper is a very good resource10:24
un_operateurubuntunewbie, pastebin the contents of this -- lsmod | grep -i snd10:24
n2diybariel: the red box, with white dot in the middle of it?10:24
ubuntu-newbieplease help. ubuntu (pc next to this one) is hanging in the startup procedure. i ve been watching the last 20 minutes: i get the big ubuntu with logo and the large progress bar beneath it; it's hanging at around 15% or so. windows from the dual boot install is still runging fine, no hardware changes whatsoever10:24
ubuntunewbieun_operateur, paste it here?10:24
un_operateur!paste | ubuntunewbie10:25
ubotuubuntunewbie: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)10:25
Schiz0dcg@dcgames:~$ sudo apt-get install bum10:25
Schiz0Reading package lists... Done10:25
Schiz0Building dependency tree... Done10:25
Schiz0Package bum is not available, but is referred to by another package.10:25
Schiz0This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or10:25
Schiz0is only available from another source10:25
Schiz0E: Package bum has no installation candidate10:25
Ignite_Guys, is the text installer on the desktop CD? Like, can I start it in the terminal?10:25
barieln2diy, the wireless one10:25
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un_operateurSchiz0, oi -- use a pastebin for that dude10:25
Alakazamz0rSchiz0, the link i gave you will fix that.10:25
Ignite_Because the GUI installer freezes at step 3...10:25
un_operateur!paste > Schiz010:25
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malikeyeubuntunewbie: you can hit F2 during the bootsplash to see what it's doing10:25
n2diybariel: don't know.10:25
_3ljaah, so its safer to use aptitude then, being more cautious, thx tiede10:25
Alakazamz0rschhttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories10:25
barieln2diy, the package to scan for wireless10:25
Alakazamz0rSchiz0, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories10:25
KeenEarsbum can be used with sysvrc package (iirc)10:25
n2diybariel: I don't know.10:26
tiedeyou're welcome, _3lj ;)10:26
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ubuntu-newbiemalikeye: F2 does not tell me anything (had found that on google): no reaction to the F2 button10:26
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barieln2diy, so which package can i use to search my wireless?10:26
ubuntunewbieun_operateur, what should i select as the Syntax part ?10:26
malikeyeubuntu-newbie: did you just tap it or did you "press" it ?10:26
n2diybariel: I don't know.10:26
tiedeso, no one has an idea how to solve my KDE/Gnome theme conflict?10:26
ubuntu-newbiemalikeye: i'll press it...10:26
un_operateurubuntunewbie, I'm not sure i follow10:26
w3ccvbariel, looks a bit like wifi-radar10:26
malikeyeubuntu-newbie: I find I need to hold it for a sec10:26
ubuntu-newbiemalikeye: but still no reaction10:26
un_operateurubuntunewbie, what do you mean?10:26
JuhazIgnite_, nope10:26
Ignite_Ffs10:27
ubuntu-newbiemalikeye: ok, seconds then10:27
malikeyeubuntu-newbie: that's cause it's hung :) rreboot and try it from 1%10:27
barielw3ccv, do you know if wifi-radar can deal with wap?10:27
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ubuntunewbieun_operateur, well..i went to paste.ubuntu-nl.org.. and it asks for the Text, My name, and Syntax10:27
un_operateurubuntunewbie, the default should do <methinks/>10:27
w3ccvbariel, I think so, but don't have it running now - on a different machine.10:27
ubuntu-newbiemalikeye: ok, as there is no reaction to 8 seconds of F2 i'll press ctrl alt del and check again at 1% please don't run away :)10:28
Schiz0thanks10:28
malikeyeman, and I was just gonna bail ;)10:28
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ubuntunewbieun_operateur, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38567/10:28
barielw3ccv, how does that guy in debianadmin.com minimize the wifiradar? i have just installed it, but it wont go to system tray10:28
Schiz0Alakazamz0r, one last question, to set up the lamp10:28
ubuntunewbieun_operateur, i hope i did that right10:28
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Schiz0the how is on that page too?10:28
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Alakazamz0rSchiz0, http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.0610:29
Schiz0thanks10:29
n2diybariel: drag and drop it?10:29
un_operateurubuntunewbie, it looks alright :)10:29
w3ccvbariel, when I'm connected I kill it - X in the top right coner10:29
malikeyeubuntu-newbie: I'm betting an error in the /etc/fstab file, but we'll see10:29
ubuntunewbieun_operateur, so what do i need to do now?10:29
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barielw3ccv, if i kill it, the programm is stopped10:30
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w3ccvbariel, yes, it's done it's job then10:30
barielw3ccv, ahh, you mean you dont need it anymore?10:30
ubuntunewbiethat paste thingy is so cool. i like.10:30
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un_operateurubuntunewbie, gimme a sec10:30
ubuntunewbieun_operateur, wokay10:31
ubuntu-newbiemalikeye: well thats just great. i reboot 4, 5 times, pc does not want to start. i reboot (hard reset), press F2 like crazy and... ubuntu boots like a charm in 12 seconds. how can i found what actually went wrong? /etc/fstab should NOT be the problem, i got the same used on three pc's10:31
malikeyeubuntunewbie: yup, it's great... cuts down on chat scrool too :)10:31
ubuntunewbiemalikeye, yup yup.10:31
Waldmeistamalikeye: i have a /boot but no /boot/grub after the reboot with the live cd10:31
malikeyeubuntu-newbie: dunno :)10:31
w3ccvbariel, not that I can tell. it is used to load the iwconfig(?) anyway it sets up the connection then I exit the program.10:31
barielw3ccv, http://www.debianadmin.com/enable-wpa-wireless-access-point-in-ubuntu-linux.html if you see that site the package can allow us select which wireless network we want to connect10:31
tiedei'll be back.10:31
Waldmeistamalikeye: forget it, i forgot to mount the installation partition..10:31
malikeyeWaldmeista: weird10:31
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ubuntu-newbiemalikeye: i can live with it as long as it's working, but is there (sorry for the stupid question) some kind of error logging system that i can check now that the machine is actually up and running?10:32
w3ccvbariel, yes10:32
malikeye"kid, you'll shoot your eye out!"10:32
malikeye:)10:32
ciusis the ubuntuforums.com login messing up on anyone else?10:32
Waldmeistamalikeye: where should the grub.conf be?10:32
un_operateurubuntunewbie, have a look at what davilinux (4 from bottom) says here -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=14060410:32
ubuntunewbieun_operateur, wokay10:33
malikeyeWaldmeista: /boot/grub/menu.kst10:33
barielw3ccv, the wifi-radar i installed can not do that10:33
Alakazamz0rcius, yes it is.10:33
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malikeyemenu.lst, sorry10:33
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ifwrhow do I tell abcde not to prompt for "edit seleced CDDB data"?10:33
fdrhello! with winxp there's this wis10:34
fdrups10:34
fdrsorry10:34
w3ccvbariel, let me boot the laptop and see what I have10:34
jontecT_T why isn't my sound working!?!10:34
borgdoes anybody know how to make TwinView see my LCD as the primary monitor and not my CRT?10:34
Waldmeistamalikeye http://pastebin.com/84393210:34
ciusAlakazamz0r, thanks for confirming, I thought it might just have a grudge against me10:34
barielw3ccv, ok10:34
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Alakazamz0rhehe no cius, its definately messing up. i just tried loggin in.10:34
synth1any xfire plugin work for gaim 2.0 beta?10:34
malikeyeWaldmeista: I know this is weird, but change it to (hd0,2)10:35
w3ccvbariel, taking a while - fsdk needed.10:35
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malikeyeWaldmeista: you can do this live too, in grub at boot10:35
SurfnKidanyone know how to reset the Audio on ubuntu?10:35
SurfnKidWhen using Gxine and RP, ending one allows the other to access it, but random times it doesnt10:35
malikeyeWaldmeista: just select the kerenel and hit E10:35
malikeyeWaldmeista: all edits are temp though, so...10:35
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SurfnKid!audio10:36
malikeyes/kerenel/kernel/10:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about audio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:36
ubuntunewbieun_operateur, should i edit the menu.lst ?10:36
Waldmeistamalikeye: how do I do it on the grub menu during boot?10:36
un_operateurSurfnKid, at a terminal -- killall esd; esd &10:36
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fdrhello! with winxp there's this wizard that allows a user to ask for "remote assistance"... I think it really is something that enables some kind of rdp server. Is there something similar out-of-the-box in ubuntu, too? I want to provide help to a remote user, I'm pretty sure it can be done via VNC or similar... what I was looking for is such "wizard".10:36
HilobDoes anyone know of a terminal based cpu temperature monitor?10:36
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un_operateurubuntunewbie, errm, what do you think? :)10:36
SurfnKidun_operateur, what would that do10:36
fdrsimply so that I can tell my user: if you need help, push this button10:36
barielw3ccv, how do you run the networkmanager applet?10:36
malikeyeWaldmeista: just make sure your cursor is on the right kernel and hit E10:36
un_operateurSurfnKid, type those commands out and press enter10:36
malikeyeWaldmeista: make your changes, and then hit B to boot10:36
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ubuntunewbieun_operateur, i think i'll try that. i'll be back. thanks a lot10:36
SurfnKidun_operateur, remove any so called TSRs in memory?10:36
synth1xfire for gaim 2.0?10:36
SurfnKidok10:36
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borgdoes anybody know how to make TwinView see my LCD as the primary monitor and not my CRT?10:37
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barielw3ccv, http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/images/wireless-at-tealuxe.png that one is NetworkManager, but i dont have it10:37
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ifwris there a way to prevent abcde from prompting "edit seleced CDDB data"?10:37
un_operateurSurfnKid, ohh -- it kills the sound daemon and restarts it -- that is all10:37
Hilob!temperature10:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about temperature - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:37
SurfnKidun_operateur, ah ok10:37
malikeye!clue10:37
w3ccvbariel, I don't, I use wifi-radar.  But I should find out, I can't find my eth0 .10:37
ubotuclue: Package to ease upgrading, delete me. In component universe, is optional. Version 20050523-1 (edgy), package size 4 kB, installed size 36 kB10:37
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SurfnKidun_operateur, and i heard this bleep, thats thumbs up i guess10:37
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barielw3ccv, i found out the icon i asked is not wifi-radar, but NetworkManager applet10:38
dikma2003joined the room10:38
barielw3ccv, only i dont know how to start it10:38
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jaeki just installed 6.10 and my system lags every ~10 seconds or so... the mouse becomes laggy and the framerate of the game i play drops...10:39
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jaekusing top i can't find what it is that is causing this10:39
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jaekany ideas?10:40
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gizmo_the_great1hi. Has a Linux question ever appeared on the TV show 'Who wants to be a millionnaire' and if so, does any1 know what the question was and how much it was for?10:40
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SurfnKidun_operateur, cannot open device another application might be using it10:40
SurfnKidstill says the same error10:40
gizmo_the_great1just realised it off topic - i take it there10:40
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Waldmeistamalikeye chaging from hd1,2 to hd0,2 on grub during boot does it10:40
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ubuntunewbieun_operateur, :still not working :(10:40
Waldmeistabut why's that? what do i do now? edit the menu.lst and change it there too?10:41
malikeyeWaldmeista: todl you it was weird10:41
LinuxAVGTrk Varm ARanzda10:41
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malikeyeI believe it's cause you delcare root as sda, so it remaps everything to (hd0,0)10:41
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synth1i would u go about uninstalling gaim 2.0 on edgy and installing an older version of it10:41
ubuntuhi10:41
ubuntui have questuiob10:41
un_operateurubuntunewbie, did you reboot?10:41
ubuntui have problems with ubuntu10:41
md-beerbariel: this is w3ccv on the laptop - my wifi-radar has an option for WPA but it needs a client10:41
ubuntunewbieun_operateur, yup10:41
ubuntuPeoples10:41
ubuntu i have problem10:41
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LinuxAVGuLen bi tane trk olsun ya10:42
malikeyeWaldmeista: yeah, edit it in menu.lst10:42
un_operateurSurfnKid, are you trying to get your sound card working too?10:42
LinuxAVGTrke Bilen varm ????10:42
barielmd-beer, so you use wifi-radar?10:42
un_operateurubuntunewbie, what does asoundconf list tell you now?10:42
aliendream23help, I have a dvd drive that got stuck perpetually erasing a dvd+rw and now it will not eject!10:42
md-beerbariel: yes  but with WEP only10:42
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barielmd-beer, isnt the app called NetworkManager?10:42
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ubuntunewbieun_operateur, it's telling me the same thing. no card listed10:42
malikeyealiendream23: power down and paperclip it ? :)10:42
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barielmd-beer, http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/images/wireless-at-tealuxe.png10:43
SurfnKidun_operateur, it works fine, lets say i open a stream thru Gxine, and then i kill it, and open another stream thru Real Player, and works fine10:43
un_operateuraliendream23, use a paper-clip --- and push it in the pin-hole at the front of the drive10:43
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malikeyealiendream23: sorry... use the "cd extraction tool" ;)10:43
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n2diyaliendream23: can you kill the program, and eject from the desktop?10:43
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aliendream23malikeye: can't running a lengthy shred command...would prefer not to stop10:43
SurfnKidevery once in a while the stream will work on one, but not on the other (typically wont work on RP) so i would like to reset it so i can gain access to it10:43
w3ccvbariel, nope - it's wifiradar10:43
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aliendream23un_operateur ...ok10:44
un_operateurubuntunewbie, can you pastebin the contents of these two commands --- cat /boot/grub/menu.list; uname -a10:44
aliendream23Thanks!10:44
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w3ccv!wifi-radar10:44
ubotuwifi-radar: graphical utility for managing Wi-Fi profiles. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.9.7-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 36 kB, installed size 208 kB10:44
malikeyealiendream23: it's still spinning ?10:44
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ubuntunewbieun_operateur, ok. what's the site again?10:44
un_operateuraliendream23, yw :)10:44
aliendream23malikeye: yes10:44
malikeyeI wouldn't eject a spinning CD10:44
un_operateur!paste > ubuntunewbie10:44
jaekwhat might cause my mouse cursor to become choppy for 2 seconds every 10 seconds or so...? i'm not doing anything but moving my mouse in circles and it does that10:44
therapyPP10:44
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un_operateurubuntunewbie, check PM10:45
ubuntunewbieun_operateur, wokay10:45
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ciustimtrimble, after comparing my xorg.conf to yours, I have been unable to solve the problem.  Would you be able to link me to the NVIDIA documentation you used?  Maybe I can figure it out from those.10:45
barielw3ccv, my wifi-radar doesnt have the menu vpn connection, connect to other wireless network and create new ...10:45
aliendream23well, I don't care so much about the dvd, it's blank and I think it may already be damaged10:45
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malikeyeI'm thinking about the laser aliendream2310:45
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un_operateurjaek, what is your average load when this happens ??10:46
aliendream23malikeye: ok10:46
malikeyealiendream23: fuser -cuav /media/cdrom10:46
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n2diyaliendream23: can you kill the program, and eject with the desktop icon?10:46
aliendream23n2diy, that didn't work10:46
malikeyealiendream23: if you add a -k to that fuser command it will kill the processes using the cdrom10:46
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ubuntunewbieun_operateur, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38575/10:47
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_3lj\o/10:48
w3ccvbariel, edit-> has WIFI Options (mode channel key securityu) ,WEP (driver), Automatic Netowrk Config (DHCP or address assignments) and Connection commands (before , after)10:48
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Waldmeistamalikeye thanx for your help so far...another lil question: why is 1024x768 the highest resolution i can choose?10:49
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SybuxHi all10:49
malikeyeWaldmeista: for xorg ?10:49
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malikeyeWaldmeista: what vicdcard and display ?10:49
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barielw3ccv, yes i have that also10:50
malikeyeWaldmeista: xorg mighta probed them wrong, so it doesn't know the true abilities10:50
Waldmeistavideocard nvidia something pciexpress display tft 19" 1280x1024 native resolution10:50
SybuxI've got some problem with spamassassin and whitelist. I've added a whitelist user in my master.cf but it doesn't work10:50
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malikeyeWaldmeista: check you /etc/X11/xorg.conf for a 1280x1024 resolution setting towards the bottom10:50
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barielw3ccv, but it seems not the same one with the screenshot, maybe my version is older?10:51
babbittanyone have any experience getting either mplayer or vlc running on a g3 ppc processor?10:51
jhasseHow can i downgrade a package like libxft2 to the version present in the reprositories?10:51
NixNewbwhich is better, kde or gnome?10:51
ubuntunewbiewhat does "cat" means?10:51
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malikeyebabbitt: you won't be able to play any windows formats with that... just to let you know10:51
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un_operateurubuntunewbie, you put acpi=ht in the wrong place :)  change line #120 to reflect this -- kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/hdb3 acpi=at ro quiet splash10:52
ubuntunewbieoops10:52
sindrumi prefer to use gnome i have friends who like  kde.10:52
SybuxNixNewb : none, it's just 2 different design. Choose the one you prefer10:52
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ubuntuA music messaging session has been requested. Please click the MM icon to accept.10:52
malikeyeubuntunewbie: concatenate10:52
babbittmalikeye: eww, that's most unfortunate.  I thought the community had reverse engineered the formats in mplayer/ffmpeg?10:52
malikeyebabbitt: not that I know of... we are still stuck with win32codecs10:52
un_operateurNixNewb, which is better ? mercedes or bmw? versace or gucci? IE or firefox? :)10:53
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w3ccvbariel, I dont' remember where I got it, but it was only 3 or 4 weeks ago, for Edgy I don't have WAP here, or anywhere else so I havent' tried it. Beyon that I'm no help10:53
flux_can antyone help with a problem with chars in linux? I try to load a LateX document (.tex) into kine/texmaker/gedit/emacas (whatever, really), but I cannot get the norwegian characters  to work. They come up as small questionmarks. But I can take _the same_ document that got interpretted without special characters, and still write them in it10:53
babbittmalikeye: icky.  Does that include divx or just .wmv?10:53
flux_can antyone help with a problem with chars in linux? I try to load a LateX document (.tex) into kine/texmaker/gedit/emacas (whatever, really), but I cannot get the norwegian characters  to work. They come up as small questionmarks. But I can take _the same_ document that got interpretted without special characters, and still write them in it10:53
Waldmeistamalikeye ok i added the respective entry for 1280x1024 what must I do to apply the changes in the x conf?10:53
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malikeyebabbitt: divx is fine... it's mainly wmv10:54
un_operateur!patience10:54
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines10:54
Crescendo_How can I make the audio device available to multiple sources at once?10:54
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malikeyeWaldmeista: did you make it the default resolution ?10:54
Waldmeistano10:54
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malikeyeWaldmeista: do that then... are you in X now ?10:54
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magic_ninjawhats a good xubuntu burning prog for audio cds10:54
Waldmeistamalikeye u can change resolution in the menu system->properties->screen resolution where you have a combobox with the available resolutions10:55
babbittmalikeye: ok, I can deal with that.  The question now is how to get it to work.  Both crash with "illegal instruction".  I'm /guessing/ that they are trying to use altivec or whatever g4s and g5s have for floating point acceleration and the g3 doesn't....but I'm most familiar with x86 architectures.  I've owned a mac for about 16 hours now :)10:55
malikeyemagic_ninja: I use k3b10:55
magic_ninjaunder xubuntu10:55
Waldmeistamalikeye i'm on the gnome desktop10:55
ubuntunewbieun_operateur, okay.. brb10:55
un_operateurflux_, are you saying that while editing the document the chars don't show up but if you print the doc out they do?10:55
MohamadABakermanhello10:55
n2diymagic_ninja: k3b10:55
malikeyeWaldmeista: sorry, forgot about that... I'm primarliy a gentoo user :)10:55
Waldmeistado i need to restart linux? i guess not..10:55
malikeyeWaldmeista: ctrl-alt-backspace10:56
magic_ninjacool, now i used to have a lot of trouble with xburn and k3b making coasters and im' pretty sure my drive is fine it was just on warty and older mdk versions10:56
flux_if I load a previously written tex-file they come up as questionmarks, but when I type them on my keyboard they come up...10:56
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magic_ninjado you know if these bugs have been fixed10:56
_3ljhey all, bit of an odd question, i think ive gotten my xserver-xorg to work (im on fluxbox now), but it only seems to work when i type "startx" ... but if i type "fluxbox" it doesnt, and comes up with an error, so whats the difference between how startx works and just typing in fluxbox?10:56
magic_ninja_3lj: thats the way its supposed to work10:56
Waldmeistaok, that restarted the gui but the resolution does not appear in the combobox10:56
malikeyemagic_ninja: not aware of any bug10:56
malikeyes10:56
magic_ninja_3lj: startx loads your xwindow manage while fluxbox isn't a command at all10:56
_3ljmagic_ninja: really? :-o so i've done it ? :-D10:57
flux_so there's something about the process when they are being read into the programs that things go wrong.,,,10:57
babbitt_3lj: you need to put fluxbox in your .xinitrc or .xsessions file, its started automagically when X starts.10:57
dead1ockHello10:57
magic_ninja_3lj: yes and you can also make it boot directly into gdm10:57
un_operateurflux_, no real idea about tex? just a guess - after loading up the document can you refresh it?10:57
raxiphi10:57
malikeyeWaldmeista: paste your xorg.cong10:57
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flux_yes, I can refresh, but doensn't help...10:57
ubuntunewbieun_operateur, still not working :(10:57
jaeki'm going insane here guys, anyone know why my CPU pegs to 50% every ~10 seconds or so? i cant catch anything on top10:58
ubuntunewbiefeel like killing myself10:58
barielw3ccv, thanks for your time10:58
un_operateur_3lj, the command is startfluxbox10:58
babbittmalikeye: any clue how to get vlc or mplayer working on a g3, or were you just informing me of the wmv codec issue?10:58
_3ljis it not a problem, that my start x seems to log me in as "root" though :-/ can i change that somehow?10:58
malikeyeWaldmeista: sorry pastebin... don't paste.. don't want the news thiking they can just paste into the channel :)10:58
radar_1976question...  what can I use to keep a log displayed on top of all windows10:58
dead1ockprivate10:58
malikeyebabbitt: only g3 I have has osx on it.. the wife uses it... sorry dunno10:58
radar_1976I don't want to use a terminal window10:58
Flannelflux_: is your terminal set to utf?10:58
radar_1976is there a pager I can use10:58
babbittmalikeye: good enough, thanks for the info.10:58
radar_1976I have gnome running on edgy10:58
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flux_hmm.... maybe not. Where do I do that?10:59
malikeyebabbitt: most welcome10:59
Waldmeistamalikeye that was clear to me from the start off ;-) maybe new to ubuntu/linux but not to irc ;-)10:59
un_operateur_3lj, if you'd like to use fluxbox with something like xdm or gdm -- put  a "exec startfluxbox" in your ~/.xinitrc10:59
flux_I've only used the graphical things for language10:59
barielw3ccv, if i may ask one thing again. in gnome we have usually the exit button, where if we click of it, it will ask us what to do, whether logout, restart, shutdown etc. Somehow i have done something bad, and if i click on that symbol, it logs me out as default without asking me anything10:59
malikeyeWaldmeista: I know, but you never know who would read that as it's ok to do it :)10:59
rogue780I'm trying to install Lirc via the ubuntu wiki, and when I get to the point where it says to do "./setup.sh" I get the following error message: "dialog not found!"10:59
_3ljokedokey, will try that, thank you un_operateur, magic_ninja and babbitt :-D woo hoo11:00
un_operateur_3lj, are you logging in as root to execute startx?? or running it as sudo startx?11:00
malikeyeWaldmeista: basically covering my butt :) "but malikeye said I could do it" bleh :)11:00
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malikeyenot that I am any authority here or anything :)11:00
malikeyeI'll shut up now11:00
malikeyehaha11:00
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ogse23hols11:00
_3ljun_operateur:  errm, i thought i just did it from my log in, but maybe i was accidently in root, ill double check now11:00
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_3ljbrb11:01
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rogue780I'm trying to install Lirc via the ubuntu wiki, and when I get to the point where it says to do "./setup.sh" I get the following error message: "dialog not found!" can someone help me with this?11:01
Waldmeistamalikeye http://pastebin.com/84394611:01
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magic_ninjawell k3b seems to work but...it says "cannot handle this file extension" for mp3 so do i have to convert them to wav?11:01
ubuntunewbieun_operateur, how do i list the sound card again?11:02
raxipinvestigating11:02
_3ljwoo hoo, yes im an idiot, i typed startx in root, so its fixed :-D11:02
_3ljthanks all :-D11:02
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un_operateurubuntunewbie,  asoundconf list11:02
ubuntunewbieun_operateur, ok. but still nothing :(11:02
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Flannelmagic_ninja: it wont burn an mp3?  that doesn't seem... sane.  It should just copy the file.  You might try asking in #kubuntu, they're more familiar with k3b11:03
ubuntunewbieun_operateur, i gotta go for now. i'll be back to bother u again some other time. thank you for your help though.11:03
un_operateurubuntunewbie, :( well, good luck with it11:03
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malikeyeWaldmeista: your monitor refresh rates are probably limiting you11:03
Waldmeistawhys that?11:03
malikeyedunno :)11:04
malikeyecomment out the Horiz and Vert11:04
malikeyeI don't have any for mine11:04
malikeyeLCD natively should scale to 60Hz11:04
Waldmeistaok, anyways, i gotta leave now, check that out another time... Thanx very much for your patience finally making my linux boot ;-)11:04
Waldmeistabye11:04
malikeyeWaldmeista: welcome, later11:04
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fatliphey i'm getting some insane errors after a failed dist-upgrade11:05
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fatlipand i'm having trouble fixing it11:05
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fatlipthere it goes again11:06
HilobDoes anyone know of a terminal based cpu temperature monitor?11:06
fatlipkicks me out of X, and then when it restarts it said "failed to initialize HAL"11:07
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HilobI'm trying to see if I can overheat my home made 1U server11:07
fatlipand the damaged packages are: capplets-data, and gnome-control11:07
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BearPersonHilob, sensors, from the lm-sensors package11:07
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HilobThanks!11:08
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citr0nHey. Can anyone tell me, how to assign <Alt Gr>+e to ?11:11
citr0nIf I write "xmodmap -e 'keycode 26 = e E ae AE ae AE'" in a console, it doesn't work, but if I change the Q-key with "xmodmap -e 'keycode  24 = q Q ae AE ae AE'", it works just fine.11:11
citr0nThe only difference I see, is that Q already has assigned a value to <Alt Gr>+q, and e doesn't. Do I have to tell that I add an value instead of changing one?11:11
Crescendo_What is wrong with Java?  Every time I run a Java app my system becomes completely unstable.11:11
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Nina_Need a hand to get my Nvidia open gl drivers to work, anyone ?11:12
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m12anyone here use the palm applet?11:12
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Flannel!anyone | Nina_, m1211:13
ubotuNina_, m12: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?11:13
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malikeyeCrescendo_: which ubuntu version ?11:14
Crescendo_Edgy.11:14
vmlemonHi, I'm having a wierd problem with Ubuntu Dapper Drake on a laptop, when it boots, the bootsplash is scrambled11:14
m12ok, I have gotten the palm applet to sync with my palm.  However, I do not know where it puts my pictures.  I have a folder where it syncs all of the applications, but the pictures aren't there.  Pictures appear in the sync logs, but I don't know what happens to them.11:14
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malikeyeCrescendo_: which java version ? 1.5.0_08 ?11:15
nufferum, can anyone tell me, the ubuntu desktop livecd for g5s... it can mount hfs+ partitions, right?11:15
HilobHere is a strange issue11:15
HilobI can only see 2.8GB of memory when Memory remap is disabled in the BIOS11:16
HilobWhen it's enabled, the system rarely boots11:16
aliendream23ok...my xserver just crashed, I had to reinstall my video drivers and reconfigure my xserver config file. Whgen the server crashed, shred was running on a partition that, after getting x up again, is not there. What happened to the discs option under system-->admin from dapper...? How do I go about getting that drive back?11:16
malikeyenuffer: not positive, it should...11:16
HilobAny ideas?11:16
madman91hey guys11:16
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fatlip! :(11:16
nuffermalikeye: because I figured, it makes sense for something for PPCs to be able to mount OSX's partitions, right?11:16
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nufferyet the gentoo livecd can't do it11:16
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malikeyenuffer: I would think... haven't booted gentoo on a mac in a while...11:17
Crescendo_malikeye, I've no idea.11:17
vmlemonnuffer: you need to enable HFS and HFS+ support in the kernel11:17
nuffervmlemon: I mean off of a default livecd11:17
malikeyevmlemon: that's not moduled by default ?11:17
nufferI don't actually want to install a linux here11:17
vmlemonI'm not sure then11:17
nufferjust use it as a recovery tool11:17
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malikeyenuffer: not sure of the module name... but could probably modprobe hfs or something like that11:18
malikeyenuffer: does lsmod show anything significant ?11:18
vmlemonAny ideas about my scrabled bootscreen problem?11:18
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violotIs wireless support good under Edgy?11:18
nuffersorry, not at the computer right now...11:18
madman91i have a wine problem..  i have the repos .. deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main  ...  deb-src http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main ...    and i try both 'sudo aptitude install wine' and 'sudo apt-get install wine' and i get the error .. Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package. .. so how do i install it11:18
fatlipMessage from syslogd@daveyj-desktop at Sat Dec 23 17:18:20 2006 ...11:18
fatlipdaveyj-desktop kernel: [17238142.980000]  Oops: 0002 [#20] 11:18
fatlip=[11:18
malikeyenuffer: my imac is keyboard less ( using synergy to meld all my machines :) ), so I can't really boot a gentoo cd11:19
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malikeyenuffer: sorry, ubuntu cd11:19
nuffernnn11:19
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vmlemonAnyone know how to reset a forgotten password for the main user account?11:20
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vmlemonIt's set to autologin, but I've forgotten my password so I can't change it11:20
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malikeyevmlemon: you need to boot in rescue mode or whatever11:20
vmlemonThanks11:20
niekievmlemon, when you do that:11:21
malikeyebascially get root access and passwd $user11:21
fatlipokay i get booted out of X everytime i maximize something11:21
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niekieJust enter passwd yourusername11:21
vmlemonmalikeye: can I do it with sudo?11:21
niekiethen set the new password11:21
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niekievmlemon, yes.11:21
malikeyevmlemon: you'll need your password for that11:21
niekieWhen you boot in recovery mode, you get root access.11:21
niekiemalikeye, not if he boots in recovery mode ;)11:21
malikeyeunless you set your sudo up to not ask for a password11:22
malikeyeniekie: yeah, I know11:22
malikeyefatlip: bad upgrade ?11:22
malikeyeniekie: but s/he might not even need to use rescue if sudo is open11:23
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malikeyewhich it's not be default11:23
malikeyes/be/by/11:23
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niekieHeh.11:23
normmacis there any way to get the Fn key to work so i can enable my wireless card, and control my brightness11:23
madman91how do i isntall wine with apt-get ... i put the repo in .. but it doesnt conncet.. thats the only one on my repo list that doesnt connect11:23
malikeyenormmac: thinkpad ?11:23
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normmacgatewat11:23
normmac*gateway11:23
malikeyehmm11:23
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fatlipmalikeye: yes, bad upgrade11:24
malikeyedunno of there are drivers for that11:24
fatlipnow ubuntu is hating me :(11:24
normmacor anyway to enable my wireless card and my brightness11:24
malikeyefatlip: what'd you use to upgrade ? synaptic ?11:24
normmaci dont need to use the fn key11:24
fatlipyeah11:24
normmaci jsut dont know another way11:24
fatlipcapplets-data is the corrupt bugger11:24
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malikeyefatlip: try : apt-get update && apt-get upgrade11:24
BjoeHrnHey11:24
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fatlipdid that11:24
BjoeHrnDoes anyone use Edgy an xChat?11:24
ApesMaI upgraded from Breezy Badger to Dapper Drake to Edgy Eft, but the system didn't automatically change xorg.conf to reflect the presence of a Wacom graphire3. Do I have to track down the required settings and edit it myself, or is there a way to force it to set xorg up for me?11:24
malikeyesynaptic has problems with dependencies, I think11:25
BjoeHrn*and11:25
fatlipand the problem lies in dist-upgrade11:25
IndyGUnFreakback up and try a clean install.11:25
fatlipsays to try "dpkg --configure -a" and when i do that11:25
fatlipit complains about capplets-data not being configured correctly.. and something about inodes11:25
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ifwrhow do I tell abcde to structure the output directory.  I tried using a relative path, I tried using ~/user/mp3/ and I tried using an absolute path, but it always says "/path/ is a directory"11:25
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wastrelis there a web calendar type interface for evolution data server?11:25
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ApesMaIndyGUnFreak: thanks, will give it a try.11:26
malikeyefatlip: inodes ? uh oh11:26
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normmacok is there anyway to enable a wireless card that normally needs the fn key to be enabled?11:26
fatlip:(11:26
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fatlipcorrupt filesystem, right?11:26
malikeyeboot into a livecd and start fscking11:26
fatlipalready did that11:26
fatlipit fixed all the errors11:26
malikeyedamn11:26
ubuntuhey11:26
fatlipbut now ubuntu is fsck'd ;)11:26
malikeyecan you uninstall capplets-data ?11:27
ubuntuis someone know how to run Kerio mail on UBuntu11:27
fatlipit'll take gnome with it11:27
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malikeyeoh well :)11:27
fatlipis there a way to kill out capplets-data and leave everything else?11:27
Nina_I need help with my NVIDIA GFX (the open gl)   --- >     glxinfo | grep direct  returns:  Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".11:27
Nina_What do i do ?11:27
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pucko-nina, I would guess that you need to reconfigure xserver-xorg and include GLX11:28
fatlipno?11:28
malikeyeyou try apt-get --fix-broken ?11:29
fatlipi will try that now11:29
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Nina_pucko- : id love to if i knew how (are you swede btw...looking at your name)11:29
fatlipwait, is that really an option?11:29
malikeyeman says it is11:29
madman91Failed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/dapper/main/binary-amd 64/Packages.gz  404 Not Found11:29
madman91 ... I GET THIS when i put the wine repo in .. and i run sudo apt-get update11:29
pucko-nina, sjlvklart11:30
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fatlipughhh11:30
fatlipi'm about ready to just back up my crap and reinstall ubuntu11:30
RugHowdy all11:30
malikeyefatlip: I'm not finding a --nodep like option11:30
Nina_pucko-: hrligt ^^ , orkar du ta ngon minut och ta mig igenom detta? har hllt p flera timmar *suck* frsker f beryl att fungera11:30
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katonahello11:31
wastrel!se11:31
ubotuSvensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se11:31
normmacok i'm trying to use ndiswrapper and i ge tthis error: cp: cannot stat '/home/../desktop/bcmwl5.inf': no such file or directory11:31
BjoeHrnCan someone help me with Edgy and xchat? If Berly is started xchat can't use the speaker to make a "beep" also the terminal makes no beep when i press TAB anymore11:31
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RugI am trying to mount my USB key (which was working fine before I reinstalled my system) and I am getting an error message in mount.  "unknown filesystem type: vfat"     wtf??11:31
Nina_mer n vad jag visste, tack ubotu11:32
Rugisn't vfat built into the kernel?11:32
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malikeyeRug: it should be11:32
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fatlipnow what11:32
malikeyeRug: you know what disk it is ?11:32
Rugmalikeye: =)11:32
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madman91Rug: i am no expert... try choosing 'auto' as the fs type11:32
katonai'am search compiler for hungary-English11:32
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malikeyefatlip: yer screwed ? ;)11:32
fatlipfigured as much lol11:32
Rugit is /dev/sdc111:32
Rugmadman91: auto doesn't work11:32
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fatlipoh well.. i guess i'll do kubuntu this time.. i tend to go back and forth on installs11:33
malikeyeRug:  fdisk -l /dev/sdc11:33
vmlemonThanks, in the end, I decided to use my Gentoo CD and chroot in11:33
malikeyefatlip: you try xubuntu yet ?11:33
fatlipyes11:33
wastrelgentoo eh11:33
fatlipits beautifully simple11:33
markoutther1Does anyone know of a good network discovery program I can run on Ubuntu that will map a network with a diagram and other details?11:33
malikeyeI like it much better than kde11:33
madman91wine isnt in any of my repos.. ?11:33
fatlipi think i might do what i did the first time i ran edgy11:33
vmlemonwastrel: Yeah11:33
madman91and their repo doesnt work11:33
fatlipgnome + kde = :)11:33
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fatlipsome call it overkill11:33
Rugmalikeye: what do you want to know?  (I can't copy/paste, I'm cli only right now)11:33
fatlipi call it pretty11:33
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malikeyeRug: does it show a vfat filesystem ?11:34
wastrelmarkoutther1:  apt-cache search "network discovery"11:34
Rugmalikeye: System:  W95 FAST3211:34
Rugack11:34
RugFAT3211:34
malikeyehmm11:34
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malikeyeand you can't mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/test ?11:34
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Rugmalikeye: nope11:34
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ivanoatshi - I'm totally stuck, I did something to xorg.conf and now I can't even get to a shell...I tried alt-f4 and other f keys?11:35
RugI can't fsck either11:35
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un_operateurivanoats, CTRL+ALT+F111:35
kitcheivanoats: try ctrl+alt+f111:35
malikeyeyou can't fsck a vfat filesystem I don't think11:35
katona_anybody know neurotran program for win??11:35
Rugivanoats: try ctrl + alt + F2-F611:35
IndyGUnFreakneurotran?..11:35
katona_yes11:35
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Rugmalikeye: it was worth I try I figured11:35
malikeyeRug: can you pastebin it for the hell of it ?11:35
fatlipluckily i keep everything in /home ;)11:36
SyncopatedFoolwhat packages do i need to get windows media files to stream in firefox?11:36
phudfun11:36
malikeyefatlip: yeah, and a nice fileserver would be good :)11:36
Rugmalikeye: no, I'm CLI only.  No mouse11:36
un_operateur!wmv | SyncopatedFool11:36
ubotuSyncopatedFool: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:36
pucko-hello. which process in ubuntu is responsible for finding and loading kernelmodules during boot in ubuntu? for some reason my modprobe config wont work correctly during boot (but it works when I modprobe it afterwards)11:36
katona_that's is a language compiler11:36
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fatlipi got my NAS i'm backing up to :)11:36
malikeyenice11:36
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malikeyewhat kind ?11:36
fatliphomebrew11:36
fatliplol11:36
un_operateurpucko-, /etc/modules11:36
ivanoatsno login prompts - just error messages11:36
Rugfatlip: best kind11:36
IndyGUnFreakHow come X-Chat always goes to Konq as my defau;t browser11:36
malikeyenice.... got a 1.2TB gentoo box here, works awesome11:36
fatlipunfortunately its running windows11:37
malikeyesoftware raid5 is great11:37
Ruga gentoo box runing Windows.  ;-P11:37
fatlipi've had the highest success rate recovering NTFS drives as opposed to fat/ext311:37
un_operateurIndyGUnFreak, x-chat sends me to epiphany11:37
IndyGUnFreaklol11:37
fatlipi was going to make this a 2TB box, but i didnt have enough room in the case =/11:37
IndyGUnFreakwell, i just double checked, my default browser is Firefox 2.011:37
malikeyefatlip: I used JFS for years... I replaced like 3 drives and it worked great... using XFS now11:37
fatlipso now i just have some HDDs laying around =D11:38
pucko-un_operateur, that doesn't help me.11:38
Rugfatlip: do what I did.   Build a cluster, and just and more computers11:38
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un_operateurpucko-, ok, that doesnt say much? how does it not help you?11:38
malikeyefatlip: there are some nice external sata enclosures these days... cheap too11:38
fatlipwell thats why i built this in the first place, to reduce the amount of running computers11:38
IndyGUnFreakhey, i know, i've got a question.11:38
IndyGUnFreakunfortunatley i can't test it just yet.11:38
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CorpseFeederhelp me! I am trying to install edgy on Asus 88n sli motherboard. The ubuntu logo on black screen comes up then the screen goes all stripes and garbage and I can't see s*#t11:39
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IndyGUnFreakbut i've got a customer who i've had for several years, she's giving me a laptop her late husband had, because as she put it, "she can't even turn it on"..11:39
IndyGUnFreakwell, will NDIswrapper allow me to use any wireless device?11:39
fatlipthis means i'm gunna have to re-install xgl11:39
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CorpseFeedermotherboard is A8N Sli11:39
fatlipdamn beryl11:39
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malikeyefatlip: install ? do you have an nvidia card ?11:39
ivanoatsktiche, Rug, un_operatueur - none of those worked... just some screens are blank with a flashing cursor, some have error messages like cannot allocate resource region 0 of device 0000:00:03.011:39
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fatlipmaybe this time i'll just do it properly with aiglx11:40
KING_LEORIKFUCK11:40
rogue780I'm trying to install Lirc via the ubuntu wiki, and when I get to the point where it says to do "./setup.sh" I get the following error message: "dialog not found!" can someone help me with this?11:40
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IndyGUnFreaklol11:40
fatlipKING_LEORIK: cant be THAT bad11:40
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IndyGUnFreakthats what i thought fatlip...lol11:40
fatlipunless he lost like gigs and gigs of home-made porn11:40
fatlipthen yeah, that deserves it11:40
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fatliphappened to me once :( except it wasnt gigs and gigs11:40
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IndyGUnFreakwell. i guess that could happen11:41
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IndyGUnFreakthats why its good to keep quality backups11:41
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KING_LEORIK   !!!11:41
bulioin ubuntu, where is wine's C:\ dir?11:41
fatliplol!11:41
PriceChildLjL,11:41
KING_LEORIK11:41
KING_LEORIK  !11:41
CorpseFeederi can't install edgy. save me11:41
fatliphello wrong keyboard layout11:41
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kitcheKING_LEORIK: how about don't use UTF-811:41
name_where is esddsp in ubu?11:41
LjLUbotu, tell KING_LEORIK about ru | KING_LEORIK, see the private message from Ubotu11:41
LjL!en11:41
ubotuThe #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat11:41
KING_LEORIKkitche:   11:42
Flannelbulio: in your home dir.  ~/.wine/ ... um, and then you'll see it11:42
KING_LEORIKkitche:   11:42
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bulioFlannel,  thanks11:42
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fatliplol11:42
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Rugbulio: ~/.wine/11:42
malikeyesmart bot11:42
CorpseFeederhow dop I start the installer without the graphical interface, cos it just ain't working....!???11:42
IndyGUnFreakbulio, make sure you click "View, then Show hidden files"11:42
name_in which package there is esddsp11:42
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fatlipi think before i reinstall ubuntu i'm gunna try osx ;)11:42
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FlannelCorpseFeeder: get the alternate CD11:42
malikeyefatlip: you have supported hardware ?11:42
thcrw8383How can i start programs automaticly in KDE?11:42
juanohello every111:43
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fatlipyeah11:43
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fatlipprescott =D11:43
CorpseFeederisn't there anyway I can just disable the graphics on the normal install CD?11:43
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deep`Is there any putty alteratives?11:43
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malikeyeI had it running WAY back... was slow as hell11:43
katona_nobody don't know neurotran , and don't help me?11:43
fatlipsame here11:43
Flanneldeep`: for.... ubuntu?11:43
fatlipbut this is a new box11:43
wastreldeep`:  ssh in terminal11:43
juanofor package forwarding in ubuntu? iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT?11:43
malikeyedeep: putty is a terminal, as is gnome-terminal / konsole / Terminal11:43
fatlipand i decided to go with pretty over useful11:43
fatlipand went iwth a shuttle case11:43
FlannelCorpseFeeder: no.  The desktop CD knows nothing but the liveCD11:44
normmacwhats the default root password11:44
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Flannel!root | normmac, there is none, root is disabled.11:44
ubotunormmac, there is none, root is disabled.: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.11:44
apokryphosnormmac: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic11:44
CorpseFeederoh crap then :(11:44
n2diynormmac: your passwd11:44
normmacok11:44
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fatliphalf hour til this backup is done11:44
normmacthanks11:44
fatlipi suppose i'll go take a shower considering its already almost 6PM11:44
ivanoatscan I boot ubuntu into a text shell mode? I just need to replace my xorg.conf file with a backup I made11:44
malikeyedeep`: sorry, it's not a terminal, it's an SSH client... but you should be able to just open any terminal and use ssh ... there is a putty linux port out there though11:45
kitchedeep: no there is not any alternatives but what putty can do can be done in shell or a terminal11:45
CorpseFeederThere is a working Dapper installation on this computer... can I use the Edgy live CD to upgrade that?11:45
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PriceChildivanoats, once booted, CTRL+ALT+F111:45
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FlannelCorpseFeeder: no, you can use the edgy alternate CD though11:45
malikeye!putty11:45
ubotuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/11:45
fatlipputty is sweet11:45
dm_Anyone know a good mp3 editor that can increase the volume on that MP311:45
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ivanoatsPriceChild, I tried that, it didn't work - gives an error PCI: Cannot allocate resource region11:45
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deep`malikeye, yep, i know. ( : but i need an alternative anyway :D11:45
CorpseFeederok11:45
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Gosha!bluetooth11:45
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ubotuFor instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup11:45
wastrelanyone know of a web calendar type interface with evolution?11:46
malikeyedeep`: what do you mean by alternative ?11:46
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Flanneldeep`: an alternative for putty in *nix? or in windows?  or what?11:46
PriceChildivanoats, that's very odd.... I haven't a clue why you've got that... but you can still load a live cd and mount the drive to edit it....11:46
fatlipokay i'm gunna go shower -- thanks for the help attempt!11:46
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malikeyefatlip: good lucj :)11:46
PriceChildivanoats, that still needs fixing though...11:46
malikeyeluckeven11:46
deep`malikeye; like "bitvise", like someone said. :)11:46
deep`Flannel, windows.11:46
dm_Anyone know a good mp3 editor that can increase the volume on that MP311:46
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deep`The thing is, i have a domain using utf-8 characters, and putty cant translate them..11:47
IndyGUnFreakHow do you clear an IP address on Ubuntu Edgy... here's the problem I had.11:47
Flanneldeep`: yes it can.  Set your char encoding to utf-811:47
ppdhi11:47
IndyGUnFreakesterday, my ISP went down, when it was restarted, i couldn't get my router to recognize the connection anymore11:47
IndyGUnFreakbut straight to PC, it was fine11:47
BlueEagledeep`: did you set it to use utf-8 under "Translation"?11:47
IndyGUnFreakso i assume i need to clear the IP, and set it to re-recognize it.11:47
kitcheIndyGUnFreak: you might had to unplug your router and replug it in it works most of the time11:48
IndyGUnFreakhmm, never thougt of that11:48
malikeyeIndyGUnFreak: what do you mean clear it ? reset your modem11:48
IndyGUnFreakno...11:48
IndyGUnFreakhere's what i think happened11:48
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IndyGUnFreaki think when the ISP went down, it either reassigned me a new IP address or something11:48
deep`Flannel, BlueEagle, that not translating the domain, i've tried, just works when your actually "typing stuff on the computer"11:48
IndyGUnFreakand my router lost track of all that.11:48
un_operateurIndyGUnFreak, sudo sh -c "ifdown eth0; ifupeth0; /etc/init.d/networking restart"11:48
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malikeyeIndyGUnFreak: did you power cycle both the modem and the router ?11:48
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IndyGUnFreakof course malikeye11:48
un_operateurIndyGUnFreak, oops, typo -- sudo sh -c "ifdown eth0; ifup eth0; /etc/init.d/networking restart"11:49
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IndyGUnFreakeven reset them both11:49
ppdis there a tool, beside easytag. that crawls a mp3/ogg collection, removes duplicates and then renames all the files in a given way?11:49
IndyGUnFreakun, what exactly does that to?11:49
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IndyGUnFreakoh i get it, nevermind11:49
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un_operateurIndyGUnFreak, flaps the interface and restarts the networking daemon11:49
IndyGUnFreakIFdown, takes downt he address11:49
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IndyGUnFreakifdup, reassigns11:49
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malikeyeflaps... I just learned that term a couple weeks ago :)11:49
PriceChildppd, I use amarok to manage my collection.... I think it does all that11:49
PriceChildppd, not sure on the removing duplicates automatically... I think it should find them for you11:50
ppdPriceChild, does ist rename the files?11:50
un_operateurmalikeye, it wasnt at a cisco class was it? :)11:50
PriceChildppd, It DEFINATELY renames and reorganises files how you want it11:50
malikeyeun_operateur: it came from the switch :)11:50
malikeye2950 most likely11:50
juanoanyone know how to route with Ubuntu?11:50
ppdPriceChild, interesting. you don't happen to know a gtk equivalent that does the same? rythmbox does not as far as I can see11:51
Unixhi11:51
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un_operateurmalikeye, ahh maybe -- they use the term a lot when they deal with ISDN interfaces11:51
Unixanyone know if there is a software to synchronise samsung D520 with ubuntu11:51
malikeyeun_operateur: I believe it was a nagios report11:51
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malikeyeabout the switch11:52
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PriceChildppd, i use amarok in gnome.... i really think it looks fine11:53
blinxhow I can update python 2.4 to 2.5 without problems?11:53
PriceChildppd, amarok is THE music player IMO11:53
PriceChildblinx, you can't "without problems"11:53
malikeyeppd: exaile is a gtk clone11:53
blinxPriceChild: hm11:53
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blinxPriceChild: little problems?11:53
malikeyeppd: of amarok11:53
PriceChildblinx, ?11:53
blinxI'm using a server with ubuntu edgy 6411:53
ppdmalikeye, PriceChild, thank you. I'll have a look11:53
un_operateurblinx, errm, you'll have to find out? I wouldn't do it unless I really really needed 2.511:54
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blinxPriceChild: how can I do that?!11:54
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sky_sky_skyhi11:54
blinxI want to minimize the used memory11:54
PriceChildblinx, it will require recompiling a LOT of packages11:54
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blinxPriceChild: how many time is needed?11:54
PriceChildblinx, then upgrading isn't worth it11:54
sky_sky_skyhi11:54
sky_sky_sky:)11:54
PriceChildblinx, not just time but effort knowlede etc.11:54
apokryphoshello11:54
PriceChildsky_sky_sky, heya11:54
malikeyepython is picky... upgrading can be bad11:54
blinxPriceChild: I will do it11:54
blinxPriceChild: what I have to do?11:54
PriceChildblinx, I don't think  you understand how much work this would be11:55
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PriceChildblinx, I doubt you'll get less memory usage either11:55
blinxPriceChild: I installed gentoo some time before11:55
malikeyeyou will need to recompile all packages that use python11:55
blinxI needed 2 days11:55
juanoanyone know how to forward packages from eth0 to eth1?>11:55
malikeye!homerouter11:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about homerouter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:55
juanoi have dhcp working good, but no internet on the other comp11:55
blinxPriceChild: mh, the py community told me that...11:55
malikeye!routing11:55
PriceChildblinx, wow... so have I... and I wouldn't recompile python in ubuntu11:56
normmacok so i installed drivers using ndiswrappper for my wireless card, but i can't enable the card because it needs the Fn key to enable it, anyway to fix this?11:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about routing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:56
malikeye!route11:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about route - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:56
juanok thanks11:56
malikeyeno love11:56
PriceChildnormmac, you don't really need the Fn key ;)11:56
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normmachow do you do it then?11:56
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blinxPriceChild: ok. I have only 192mb memory in my xen instance, lighty with trac + moin is running11:56
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blinxbut if I want to use some php things, I will get problems, all memory is used11:57
zOrKhow can I share internet with pc 2 running on ubuntu?11:57
blinxhow can I minimize that?11:57
zOrKand pc1 running on ubuntu as well11:57
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normmacPreiceChild, how do you enabel it without the Fn key?11:57
UPChi11:57
UPCis there anything bad with using "apt-get" instead of "aptitude" ?  I just like  "apt-get" more but I heard   "aptitude" would be better for the system.  Whats the truth?11:57
LjLUbotu, tell UPC about aptitude | UPC, see the private message from Ubotu11:57
malikeyethey are both better than synaptic11:57
thoreauputicUPC: aptitude is smarter11:57
PriceChildblinx, I do not know every package that will need recompiling... but its every package that depends on python11:57
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malikeyeapt-get supossedly has better dep checks11:57
LjLUPC: note that the automatic removal of dependencies is now implemented in Edgy's apt-get, too11:58
thoreauputicmalikeye: other way around11:58
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malikeyehmmm11:58
PriceChildblinx, you will need to grab the source for it all and know ALL the configuration flags you need for each11:58
smithjis there a way to get commit mail for ubuntu packages?11:58
blinxoO11:58
UPCLjL: so apt-get and aptitude won't make a difference any more?11:58
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alecjwUPC: aptitude automatically removes pacakges which were installd as dependencies, but aren't needed11:58
Goshagah! i cant get my bluetooth to work >_<11:58
un_operateurUPC, aptitude remembers dependencies of packages, so that when you remove the original package it suggests you remove the unneeded dependencies too11:58
malikeyemaybe I was reading a comparison between apt-get and synaptic only11:58
blinxPriceChild: do you have a link of a howto?11:58
Gosha.. i can send blutooth stuff via the obex push thing .. but cant recieve anythin11:58
Goshag11:58
LjLUPC: well, that's not completely true. i don't really know the details, but i'm pretty sure the autoremoval, right now, does *not* work in exactly the same way in apt-get vs aptitude11:59
OkinawaInstructocan someone help me set up a Lexmark X125 printer.. i have it set up, and it acts like its printing but when the paper comes out its a bunch of jiberish11:59
LjL(namely, aptitude's works better, but anyway)11:59
UPCI only found out on dapper that there were programs which with unsolved dependecies using aptitude,  but they were installable with apt-get11:59
PriceChildblinx, there is no howto...11:59
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blinxPriceChild: hm11:59
PriceChildblinx, you _just_ don't do this11:59
un_operateurblinx, have you tried this -- sudo aptitude install python=2.5    or  sudo aptitude install python2.5  ?11:59
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PriceChildis python2.5 in the repos for him?12:00
blinxun_operateur: no, I asked before12:00
ToHellWithGAi need to add refresh rates to the list provided by gnome.  i have my horizontal sync and vertical refresh ranges set properly in xorg.conf but only see 60Hz when picking a resolution.12:00
malikeyeI have seen apt-get install more stuff than aptitude would have, but I don't remove stuff regularly, so I am not sure about reverse dep resolution12:00
blinxit is in the repos12:00
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PriceChildargh12:00
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UPCok so I will use aptitude12:00
UPCthank you guys!12:00
PriceChildblinx, then uninstall 2.4 and install 2.5....12:00
LjLmalikeye: actually, that's the reverse too... since, by default, aptitude installs Recommends as well as Depends, while apt-get does not12:00
Pelook I have very nearly been able to restore all my settings,  execpt for  the evolution stuff ,  I need more help12:00
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