[12:01] <Nontitle> is there something i'm missing?
[12:01] <fuoco> how can i backport/install a kernel from feisty for example in my edgy system?
[12:01] <Stone321> MrSprout paste : /boot/grub/menu.lst there too
[12:01] <n2diy> Mrsprout, didn't give you the chance to select which kernel to load?
[12:01] <cmweb> ok this is weird (i guess) im talking in 3 rooms and no one will give me an answer
[12:01] <MrSprout> n2diy
[12:01] <MrSprout> it did
[12:01] <MrSprout> but the 686 one wasn't there
[12:01] <liberion> hey guys ive built a universal installer for FretsOnFire .itll install on any linux system heres the linux http://download.zenwalk.org/people/jcoghill/FretsOnFire-universal-install.sh
[12:01] <Nontitle> cmweb: what are you asking?
[12:01] <MrSprout> and I could only load the 386, the generic linux one failed to load.
[12:01] <n2diy> MrSprout: , and the smp kernel wasn't there?
[12:01] <cmweb> Any one use keep? I am having problems making a folder for the backup
[12:01] <bruenig> derek_, it runs in the tray. It must always be running for it to work
[12:01] <MrSprout> nope
[12:01] <linopil> what is the meta package to install complete  kde ?
[12:02] <linopil> !kde
[12:02] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[12:02] <apokryphos> linopil: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[12:02] <clintiepoo> so, does anyone know about the dell 2405fpw on an ATI radeon card?
[12:02] <justin420> cmweb: join the club, I was forced to reinstall windows as nobody would help me with a problem after an apt-get update; apt-get upgrade. good luck :)
[12:02] <Life> hi, for some reason i can make connections to other servers, however i can not make connections to my server
[12:02] <n2diy> MrSprout: how long did it take you download and install the kernel?
[12:02] <magic_ninja> man this mouse prob isr eally annoying
[12:02] <magic_ninja> if i just changed the usb port the mouse is in should it help?
[12:03] <MrSprout> n2diy, not long at all
[12:03] <avalon> !pastebin
[12:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:03] <MrSprout> 20 seconds maybe.
[12:03] <Nontitle> i don't use keep
[12:03] <linopil> kubuntu-desktop is fine
[12:03] <cmweb> well if i can get this backup to work i can keep my system in good order
[12:03] <magic_ninja> hmm
[12:03] <magic_ninja> lets see if it works on a different port
[12:03] <n2diy> MrSprout:  I don't think you have it then. Did you tell synaptic to mark it for install, and then click on apply?
[12:04] <MrSprout> Yes, I can reinstall if it needs be
[12:04] <linopil> but first repos
[12:04] <linopil> !repos
[12:04] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[12:04] <avalon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38421/ Can someone tell me what I can do to fix my xorg.conf?
[12:04] <linopil> !easysource
[12:04] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic.  It does not currently support Edgy sources.  When asked if it will, the reply was "maybe".
[12:05] <MrSprout> n2diy... Again it took very little time.
[12:05] <linopil> easysource not for edgy yet right ??
[12:05] <n2diy> Could MrSprout''s trouble be dual cores aren't supported?
[12:05] <n2diy> MrSprout:  are you on a high speed connection?
[12:05] <MrSprout> 2mbit
[12:06] <MrSprout> 256kbit up
[12:06] <FirstStrike> man, they jipped you on upload
[12:06] <linopil> BearPerson: ?
[12:06] <MrSprout> ADSL
[12:06] <MrSprout> I live in the middle of nowhere.
[12:06] <MrSprout> It's all I can get.
[12:06] <FirstStrike> 5 mbit/640k here and even that's slow. should be at least 1 mbit =\
[12:06] <n2diy> MrSprout: ok, and synaptic told you it installed the smp kernel?
[12:06] <BearPerson> linopil, turned something on again, wanted to safeguard against a sudden flood
[12:06] <MrSprout> n2diy, yes.
[12:06] <linopil> BearPerson: pls what was +r -r?
[12:06] <avalon> I got 5mbt here
[12:07] <n2diy> MrSprout: well reboot, and see if it shows?
[12:07] <MrSprout> I have
[12:07] <MrSprout> about 10 times.
[12:07] <MrSprout> heh
[12:07] <linopil> meaning possible safeguard from flooding from me ?
[12:08] <n2diy> MrSprout: I'm puzzled.
[12:08] <BearPerson> linopil, no, from bots
[12:08] <linopil> tyvm
[12:08] <n2diy> MrSprout: what does cat /proc/cpuinfo tell you now?
[12:09] <garrettkajmowicz> I'm using Ubuntu 6.10 and just purchased a digital camera.  Apparently I need libgphoto 2.3.0 to be able to connect to the camera.  This is not part of Ubuntu or backports at the moment.  Does anybody have any straigh-forward suggestions on how to get the new library version without screwing up my system?
[12:09] <MrSprout> !pastebin
[12:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:09] <MrSprout> n2diy, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38425/
[12:10] <n2diy> MrSprout: ok, never used pastbin before, but I'll give it a try.
[12:10] <MrSprout> that's just what it gave me..
[12:10] <MrSprout> the cat /proc/cpuinfo thing
[12:11] <LaserLine> How do I open a port on Ubuntu?
[12:11] <Kingsqueak> port for what?
[12:11] <LaserLine> a new service... we want to use port 9111
[12:12] <Kingsqueak> just start your application
[12:12] <dibblego> you open it on your router
[12:12] <n2diy> MrSprout: yep, only one core is seen.
[12:12] <LaserLine> dibblego: we're not going through the router
[12:12] <magic_ninja> my mouse is going on and off and its effecting everything i do, i use 6.10, microsoft IExplorer (older version) and I have changed USB ports so i'm sure is an OS issue
[12:12] <Kingsqueak> applications open ports, that's it
[12:12] <snacks> for ndiswrapper, when i do 'ndiswrapper -v' under 'utils-version:' it says 'no specified version'
[12:12] <dibblego> LaserLine, then just start the application - it opens the port
[12:12] <n2diy> MrSprout: my set up here is with dual CPUs, not cores, and it works for me.
[12:13] <Kingsqueak> Ubuntu doesn't enable a firewall by default so when the app starts, it's open
[12:13] <LaserLine> dibblego: what if it's an application that we're coding
[12:13] <bruenig> !iptables
[12:13] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[12:13] <dibblego> LaserLine, run it
[12:13] <chalcedony> does anyone use xsane image scanner? My son usually sets it, he's out of town. I need it to scan a document and let me save it with a filename. help?
[12:13] <dibblego> LaserLine, whatever language you're using allows you to open a listening TCP port
[12:14] <rb_laptop> chalcedony: try the gimp and i think u can acquire or import from the scanner there
[12:14] <DFM> Can someone point me to the website that will help me determine what wifi cards will work with ubuntu? I have been there before but can't seem to find it again.
[12:14] <clintiepoo> I have tried everything I know to make my monitor work.  It still doesn't.  Does anyone have any suggestions, please?
[12:14] <SilentDis> 'lo :)
[12:14] <Life> hi, i've done a traceroute on two servers (1 that works and 1 doesnt) the one that works makes it to a reverse, the one that doesn't work doesn't make it past the router
[12:14] <Life> any help?
[12:15] <chalcedony> rb_laptop: i'd love to get gimp to work for me, but what he's got set up with the printer is xsane.
[12:15] <avalon> Well here comes another restart, wish me luck :)
[12:15] <Kingsqueak> chalcedony: start it up, put the picture in the scanner and click the button, I think it is 'acquire image' something like that
[12:15] <rogue780> is this channel logged?
[12:15] <SilentDis> Life:  just these 2 servers you're having issue with?
[12:15] <rb_laptop> chalcedony: have u tried through the gimp?
[12:15] <timo901> were can i find the latest beryl download http://www.beryl-project.org/roadmap.php seems no good
[12:15] <Kingsqueak> chalcedony: once it finishes, save the file
[12:15] <cmweb> gaa its in here
[12:15] <cmweb> @part
[12:16] <Life> silentdis: just 2 servers with issue, 1 is working properly
[12:16] <SilentDis> timo901:  I pulled from their repos, from what I understand, that's their latest stable build.
[12:16] <cmweb> sorry
[12:16] <Kingsqueak> chalcedony: http://www.xsane.org/doc/sane-xsane-doc.html
[12:16] <clintiepoo> When I edit my display settings, it will not let me log back into ubuntu.  If I log in as text, startx fails.
[12:16] <chalcedony> Kingsqueak: ty :)
[12:16] <SilentDis> timo901:  you might try the #beryl room if you're looking for something later than what's on the repos.
[12:17] <SilentDis> Life:  I'd say that that server has the issue.  either the route to it is rejecting the ping requests (very possible), or the route to host is disallowing it (some router is configured to do so), or the server is down.
[12:17] <timo901> thank you
[12:17] <MrSprout> n2diy
[12:17] <MrSprout> pm
[12:18] <Life> silentdis: im on the server atm, server is not down
[12:18] <n2diy> MrSprout: what is pm?
[12:18] <MrSprout> private message...
[12:18] <Life> silentdis: i can not connect via shell though, only through KVM over IP
[12:18] <SilentDis> Life:  you're trying to ping your outside cloud IP and it's bouncing?
[12:18] <n2diy> I've never done that either, go for it.
[12:19] <MrSprout> Does this server not allow private messages or something?
[12:19] <Life> silentdis: what do you mean?
[12:20] <cafuego_> MrSprout: it does, but by default only by users that have registered with nickserv
[12:20] <SilentDis> Life:  if you're sitting AT the server, and you try pinging 127.0.0.1, it should always work.  That's the internal IP.  Then, depending on how you have that server configed, you can have it set to deny ping requests on it's public IP.
[12:20] <SilentDis> MrSprout:  you have to register with nickserv to use private messages.
[12:21] <Life> silentdis: ping is working fine
[12:21] <Life> silentdis: ping is working for 127.0.0.1 and any other servers that are online
[12:21] <SilentDis> Life:  ok, then i'm misunderstanding the problem lol
[12:22] <Life> silentdis: it works for any server, apt-get works, just that i can't connect to my own server
[12:22] <fiendskull9> hey
[12:22] <SilentDis> Life:  ok, from external box > server doesn't work?
[12:22] <Life> silentdis: yes
[12:22] <Nontitle> firewall, maybe?
[12:22] <Life> silentdis: in fact, it cant even ping its own IP
[12:23] <fiendskull9> i found an old (i think hauppage) tv card. its chipset is Bt848KPF. If i just pop it in and reboot, and follow one of the guides on the net, should it work?
[12:23] <Life> nontitle: there is no firewall installed
[12:23] <fiendskull9> or is there some oddball kernel modules i need to install
[12:23] <cafuego_> fiendskull9: pretty much
[12:23] <cafuego_> fiendskull9: the 848 should be fine (in theory)
[12:23] <SilentDis> Life:  just trying to tack down the network schema in my head here is all.  it goes Computer > router > Teh Interweb > router > server.  is that correct, or am I mucking it up.
[12:23] <fiendskull9> alright man
[12:23] <fiendskull9> thanks
[12:23] <n2diy> fiendskull9: Find the guide first, you maynot be able to surf the net with the new card.
[12:24] <Life> silentdis: i am working onver KVM over IP and command prompt
[12:24] <Life> i don't have a desktop
[12:24] <fiendskull9> n2diy: why?
[12:24] <fuoco> how can i backport/install a kernel from feisty for example in my edgy system?
[12:24] <n2diy> Because xorg.conf might not be configured for it.
[12:24] <SilentDis> fiendskull9:  the Hauppauge cards are VERY well supported.  the older ones expecially so.  I'd do a bit of searhing on google just to be sure... but other than that, you should be ok :)
[12:24] <fiendskull9> mmk
[12:24] <fiendskull9> n2diy: but looking at the guides, it has nothing to do with xorg
[12:25] <fiendskull9> its not like im interfacing my desktop with it
[12:25] <magic_ninja> my mouse is going on and off and its effecting everything i do, i use 6.10, microsoft IExplorer (older version) and I have changed USB ports so i'm sure is an OS issue
[12:25] <Life> silentdis: also i used the technician's values for /etc/network/interfaces and i entered it correctly
[12:25] <Nontitle> fuoco: feisty is newer than edgy, using something from feisty is not backporting
[12:25] <clintiepoo> Can somebody help me with my xorg.conf, please?  http://clint.bounceme.net:83/xorg.conf
[12:25] <SilentDis> Life:  not having a desktop is fine.  I'm just trying to figure out the network schema, so I can better understand the problem, and help :)
[12:25] <n2diy> fiendskull9:  Ok, if you say so.
[12:25] <fiendskull9> n2diy: i always keep a xorg backup on a usb key anyways man
[12:25] <aib_> does anyone have a recommended how-to for creating a .deb from source?
[12:25] <fiendskull9> n2diy: thanks for the concern tho :)
[12:26] <Nontitle> makedeb
[12:26] <fiendskull9> bye
[12:26] <eontasticnesser> hey people
[12:26] <fuoco> Nontitle: backport from the newer feisty into the older edgy... what do you mean?
[12:26] <n2diy> fiendskull9: your back up is configured for your current card. If it doesn't work, just re-install the old card.
[12:26] <Nontitle> oh okay never mind
[12:26] <SilentDis> Life:  lets skip the whole KVM stuff for now.  if you're sshed into something, or have access to a machine in some way, shape or form, that's your starting point.  the computer.  what route would the ping request take, physically, is what I'm trying to understand :)
[12:26] <clintiepoo> n2diy, can you have a look at that file I posted, please?
[12:26] <eontasticnesser> I have a hardware raid controller that when I use raid5 with THREE drives, gparted with allow me to see the proper size, but if i do raid5 with FOUR drives, it freaks out and shows a negative value for MB
[12:26] <eontasticnesser> is this a known problem?
[12:26] <fiendskull9> n2diy: i have an nvidia 6800xt for my video card, im installing a Haupage TV card
[12:27] <n2diy> clintiepoo: were is it?
[12:27] <clintiepoo> http://clint.bounceme.net:83/xorg.conf
[12:27] <fiendskull9> n2diy: they are different interfaces
[12:27] <Life> silentdis: traceroute?
[12:27] <n2diy> fiendskull9: the video connector, or the momboard connections?
[12:29] <SilentDis> Life:  i did support in the trenches in Tier1 and Tier2 roles for decent sized ISPs, as well as net admin for a while in my life.  Understanding the physcial layer is the FIRST part to diagnosing where net troubles are coming from.  So, what I'm asking is what cable/bits are the reqests going through?
[12:29] <Shocka311> Hey, I just installed a slave hard drive and formatted it but it won't let me acess it, write onto it or anything. The only file left is a lost and found but I can't view it.  It tells me I am not the owner therefore I have no permission to acesses it.  Any ideas?
[12:30] <ortega10> when i'm on ubuntu, i have to connect the speakers to one of my soundcard's outlets in order to get sound; but when i'm on windows xp, i have to use another outlet... is there any way i can fix that and make both use the same?  thanks...
[12:30] <Life> silentdis: i would not know as i am not physically there
[12:30] <SilentDis> Life:  forget everything from traceroute, ping, etc.  I'm looking for info on the physical layer, first and foremost, so I can better help diagnose and troubleshoot where the trouble is.  without knowing what I'm up against, i'm virtually useless lol
[12:30] <jamesbrose> I've broke my grub , I install gfxboot and uninstalled and install grub again. It now comes up with Error 22 , partition Not found, can anybody help?
[12:30] <clintiepoo> n2diy: any ideas?
[12:31] <n2diy> clintiepoo: I asked you where it was?
[12:31] <clintiepoo> I sent a link
[12:31] <clintiepoo> http://clint.bounceme.net:83/xorg.conf
[12:31] <SilentDis> Life:  that's fine!  you don't have to be there.  What I'm trying to find out is what bits the requests are going through.  You have access to your computer, and to this server.  You're trying to send ping requests from your computer to the server.  Now, what bits of equip are those pings going through?  Does this look right:  computer > router > the internet > router > server?
[12:31] <clintiepoo> did you get that?
[12:32] <Shocka311> Anyone???
[12:32] <ortega10> when i'm on ubuntu, i have to connect the speakers to one of my soundcard's outlets in order to get sound; but when i'm on windows xp, i have to use another outlet... is there any way i can fix that and make both use the same?  thanks ...
[12:32] <MrSprout> n2diy, I think I've found the source of the problem
[12:32] <Life> silentdis: i dont see that anywhere.
[12:32] <n2diy> MrSprout: excellent.
[12:33] <MrSprout> I need to load the generic kernel which should detect my processor as having dual cores
[12:33] <MrSprout> but
[12:33] <SilentDis> ortega10:  are you using digital out on your computer for windows?
[12:33] <SilentDis> Life:  eh?
[12:33] <MrSprout> it fails to run because it cant initiate xserver
[12:33] <ortega10> SilenceGold: maybe, i don't know
[12:33] <MrSprout> which I now need to resolve.
[12:33] <n2diy> clintipoo, ok and what was the original problem again?
[12:33] <ortega10> SilenceGold: don't remember having changed that configuration, i don't use windows a lot (only cellphone syncing and mp4 conversion)
[12:33] <Pie-rate> agggh this new keyboard's keys are too squishy
[12:33] <Life> silentdis: im lost now
[12:34] <rb_laptop> clintiepoo: shouldn't u be using an ati driver here ... Driver		"vesa" ?
[12:34] <SilentDis> Life:  so it's computer > magic > server?  lol
[12:34] <Pie-rate> i guess i need to gum it up with orange soda like the last one was
[12:34] <Life> let me think..
[12:34] <clintiepoo> That xorg.conf does not work.  I feel like everything is correct, but x fails to start.  Someone earlier told me to use a vesa driver, ati doesn't work either.
[12:34] <Life> silentdis: yes thats right
[12:34] <craigbass1976> his isn't really an ubuntu question, but thought you folks might have an answer.  Does anyone know of a free pop mailing service besides gmail?  I've set up a bluebottle account, but it doesn't work.  I don't have text messaging on my cell phone, so I can't do gmail, unless someone wants to invite me
[12:34] <Pie-rate> i'll invite
[12:35] <ortega10> craigbass1976: you just need a gmail invite?
[12:35] <Pie-rate> have another email address?
[12:35] <craigbass1976> phat.  I love you
[12:35] <SilentDis> ortega10:  is it a yellow colored output jack when you're setup in windows?
[12:35] <SilentDis> Life:  the problem, as I understand it, is you're having problems pinging a server from your computer.  is that correct?
[12:35] <craigbass1976> cparker@candocomputerservices.com
[12:35] <sindrum> im about to change xorg.conf and backed it up. How do i reapply if things dont go right?
[12:35] <Pie-rate> i can see why you'd want another
[12:35] <n2diy> clintiepoo: do you know the video cards chipset etc...
[12:35] <ortega10> craigbass1976: sent
[12:35] <SilentDis> Life:  ok.  What are the PHYSICAL bits of kit that that request would go over?
[12:35] <craigbass1976> Thanks
[12:35] <ortega10> SilentDis: let me check
[12:35] <Pie-rate> there you go
[12:35] <MrSprout> n2diy, what do you suggest to get xserver working under the generic kernel?
[12:36] <Pie-rate> lol probably 50 people just sent you an invite
[12:36] <OllieD> interest
[12:36] <sindrum> do i just cp over the one changed from recovery?
[12:36] <Life> silentdis: i can now ping myself
[12:36] <Life> silentdis: will try to connect to the server now
[12:36] <craigbass1976> xchat is locking up, so I'm going to leave before it does.  Thanks folks.
[12:36] <jcwinnie> How to get the desktop to a larger size?
[12:36] <ortega10> SilentDis: seems pink for windows, green for ubuntu
[12:36] <n2diy> MrSprout: it should be ready to go.
[12:36] <MrSprout> It's not
[12:36] <jcwinnie> Someone washed my Edgy and shrunk it
[12:36] <MrSprout> it fails to start xserver
[12:36] <Corbeaux> ctrl + shift + +
[12:36] <MrSprout> do you need an error quote?
[12:36] <clintiepoo> here's what I know: ATI Technologies Inc RV370 [Radeon X300SE] 
[12:37] <n2diy> MrSprout:  if you mean serving X to other boxes, I don't know.
[12:37] <SilentDis> sindrum:  you'll find backup files in /etc/X11 I believe (same place the xorg.conf file is.
[12:37] <jamesbrose> I've broke my grub , I install gfxboot and uninstalled and install grub again. It now comes up with Error 22 , partition Not found, can anybody help?
[12:37] <jamesbrose> Please :] 
[12:37] <Life> silentdis: not working
[12:37] <Life> silentdis: i can not ping its own IP address, however i can't ping it from my home computer
[12:38] <clintiepoo> The monitor is running using DVI, which might be relevant.
[12:38] <n2diy> jamesbrose: see if you find a backup to grub?
[12:38] <SilentDis> ortega10:  ok, that's fine.  green is what they're coloring the 'analog audio out' for most soundcards now adays.  You'll need to enable digital out in ubuntu.  dbl click the little speaker icon in the upper right corner, click the switches tab, and put a check for digital out :)
[12:38] <jamesbrose> the menu.lst? or the whole grub? n2diy?
[12:38] <graft> is there any way i can get GTK applications to stop using their INCREDIBLY DUMB automatic completion mechanism?
[12:38] <rb_laptop> clintiepoo: probably vesa driver can't handle that resolution. why aren't u using an ati driver?
[12:39] <ortega10> SilentDis: thanks but... there's no digital out option in switches
[12:39] <n2diy> the file grub.conf~ or whatever else it might be called.
[12:39] <LaserLine> Do I need to register a new service before I open a port (9111)?
[12:39] <n2diy> jamesbrose:  the file grub.conf~ or whatever else it might be called.
[12:39] <SilentDis> Life:  i'd love to help you, but i don't know enough about the network schema to provide good answers.  This problem could be related to a local router, a remote router, the remote config, etc.  I have no way of knowing where to start looking.  sorry :(
[12:40] <clintiepoo> rb_laptop: I tried an ATI driver first and it didn't work.  Someone told me to use vesa, so I did.  Is there another one that I should use?
[12:40] <rb_laptop> !ati | clintiepoo
[12:40] <ubotu> clintiepoo: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:41] <SilentDis> ortega10:  no problems.  it's probably not enabled.  in that same screen, click edit > prefrences.  in that list, you'll see an option for something about digital/analog out or the like.  Check it, and the option should show itself :)
[12:41] <graft> anyone? anyone? GTK file open dialog, can I get it to stop trying (and failing) to auto-complete entries?
[12:42] <ortega10> SilentDis: let's see
[12:42] <sindrum> SilentDis: im just gonna back up everything then give it a try. Lets hope it doesnt break
[12:43] <SilentDis> sindrum:  good luck!
[12:43] <SilentDis> sindrum:  if all else fails, remember:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg :)
[12:44] <seraphim> dns punkrockers-radio.de
[12:44] <habeeb> Thanks for the person who helped me 10minutes ago.
[12:45] <clintiepoo> hey, I just got it working.  The problem was I didn't have the correct ATI driver installed.  Ubuntu in 1920x1200 is beautiful.  Thanks for your help guys.
[12:45] <habeeb> btw, I have another problem, I created an ~/.xsession and I added a xmodmap command in it. BUT it wont get executed in boot time :/
[12:45] <clintiepoo> really, I appreciate it
[12:47] <loudawg> Hey guys I'm having an issue with Amarok where I'm trying to transfer music to my generic audio player (it's a UMS device), but every time I click Transfer the song(s) fail to copy and amarok gives me an error.  Yet I can manually copy stuff just fine.  Any ideas?
[12:48] <Life> hi, my server can ping its own external ip address, however my home computer can not ping the server
[12:48] <Life> the server can use apt-get properly
[12:49] <petafile> I can see my wireless device (eth1) in iwconfig, but it doesn't show up in ifconfig or network manager
[12:49] <petafile> what's the deal?
[12:49] <SilentDis> rausb0:  if I had some other option other than dialup, I would surely take it, trust me :P
[12:49] <rausb0> SilentDis: :)
[12:49] <loudawg> petafile:  have you tried bringing up the interface?  "ifup eth1"
[12:49] <loudawg> if you do a ifconfig -a it might show up then
[12:50] <fiendskull9> hey
[12:50] <fiendskull9> so i put in the tvcard
[12:50] <fiendskull9> and rebooted
[12:50] <fiendskull9> but it appears it isnt seeing it
[12:50] <fiendskull9> is there anything i have to do?
[12:50] <fiendskull9> it does say bt848 on the chip
[12:50] <NEWNEO> wow what do yall make of this:
[12:51] <NEWNEO> my ip is surrounded by google_bot Ip's
[12:51] <NEWNEO> are they spying on me?
[12:52] <petafile> loudawg, sudo ifup eth1 says no dhcpoffers recieved
[12:52] <grimboy> NEWNEO, Is google a spie?!?
[12:52] <petafile> but it does show up in ifconfig -a
[12:53] <NEWNEO> wow when you search through google for whats my ip it gives you the ip of the search engine just just went through
[12:53] <loudawg> petafile:  ok, you probably just have to configure the wireless settings
[12:53] <loudawg> and then try bringing it up again
[12:54] <petafile> loudawg: where do I do that?
[12:54] <n2diy> How would I find out what depends on libnewt0.51
[12:54] <NEWNEO> thats interesting
[12:54] <loudawg> Umm, in Ubuntu?  I'm not sure where the easiest way is...I'm assuming Gnome has some network configuration program.  But you can configure the interface manually by editing /etc/network/interfaces
[12:55] <loudawg> petafile: do you know the wireless settings for your network?  Is it encrypted?
[12:55] <petafile> loudawg: no, but I do use networks that are
[12:55] <phaedra> petafile, Try system > administration > networking
[12:57] <n2diy> ubotu, How would I find out what depends on libnewt0.51
[12:57] <ankan_> hello....I m havin problems playin any embedded mozilla firefox video such as frm cnn using mplayer-plugin...i m usin ubuntu breezy
[12:57] <kvossen> I'd like to have a minimal desktop setup on my server such that i can use gnome via svn. Any suggestions as to which packages i should install?
[12:58] <petafile> phaedra: I can configure it there, but its still not showing up in network manager
[12:58] <NEWNEO> google will give supply an ipaddress from which to search from... if you had an anonymous proxy before your line you could do attacks almost completly anyonmous through google
[12:59] <petafile> phaedra: seems I enabled it there and it has an ip, still not in network manager
[12:59] <jamesmhall> n2diy: try going into synaptic then searching for libnewt0.51. right click then properties then dependencies then select dependent packages
[01:00] <n2diy> jamesmhall: thanks, but I want to find out what uses it? I'm thinking of installing libnewt0.52, and I don't want to break anything.
[01:00] <fiendskull9> can someone help me setup my bt848 in ubuntu?
[01:01] <fiendskull9> tv-card
[01:01] <petafile> check
[01:02] <zcat[1] > fiendskull9: apt-get install tvtime, the card should already be set up.. mine was..
[01:02] <fiendskull9> zcat[1] : thats the prob
[01:02] <fiendskull9> it doesnt seem to be auto-setup
[01:02] <jamesmhall> n2diy: that should tell you what uses it. its important to select dependent packages rather than dependencies though
[01:02] <py__> I'm running apache2 on Breezy (installed with synaptic).  What do I need to do to get python scripts running as cgi?  When I go to the .cgi file, it just serves it as text.
[01:02] <fiendskull9> the chip sais bt848 on it. i popped her in, rebooted, and its not working
[01:03] <zcat[1] > might be one of those with no ID.. you know what the card is?
[01:03] <fiendskull9> nope
[01:03] <n2diy> jamesmhall: roger that, I'm poking around there now.
[01:03] <fiendskull9> got it from an old friend.
[01:03] <zcat[1] > has it got an FCCID or anything on it?
[01:04] <fiendskull9> it might
[01:04] <fiendskull9> gah
[01:04] <fiendskull9> i g2g
[01:04] <fiendskull9> bbl
[01:04] <cafuego_> py__: you need to enable the cgi handler to work for files ending in .py
[01:04] <cafuego_> py__: and the dir they're in needs to have Options +ExecCGI set.
[01:04] <py__> cafuego: the file ends in .cgi -- works fine on a remote hosting plan, but I want to run them on my own computer
[01:04] <cafuego_> py__: Perhaps mod_python is easier
[01:04] <ankan_> hello....I m havin problems playin any embedded mozilla firefox video such as frm cnn using mplayer-plugin...i m usin ubuntu breezy
[01:04] <py__> cafuego: I'm learning both
[01:05] <calm> hi, all! i just installed edgy, and installed a radeon x300 at the same time. question: how stable is fglrx? i can't get a sense from the wiki: are normal users generally having quick/easy/painless installations of fglrx, or is it buggy for a lot of people?
[01:05] <py__> cafuego: my python tutorial is for cgi
[01:06] <n2diy> jamesmhall: found them, thanks.
[01:06] <cratel> in gnome's file dialog windows is there a way to go so hidden directories i.e. directories that start w/ a '.'?
[01:06] <jamesmhall> n2diy: no problem
[01:07] <calm> cratel: browse for other folders, right click, and "show hidden files"
[01:07] <dougb> does anyone know why the "nv" driver won't go to 24-bit color?
[01:07] <derek_> How do I apt-get uninstall?
[01:07] <derek_> any such command?
[01:08] <cratel> calm: thanks that worked!
[01:08] <nikosapi> derek: apt-get remove
[01:08] <derek_> ok
[01:08] <jamesmhall> calm: i've found that with fglrx the install goes fine if you follow the guides, it can be a little more tricky if you've recompiled your kernel but still do-able. as to stability i've never had a problem
[01:08] <calm> cratel: np ^_^_^ (hey look it's a cute/happy alien!)
[01:09] <py__> caguego: you mentioned Options +ExecCGI.  Can I put that in my .htaccess?
[01:10] <HymnToLife> py__, yes
[01:10] <HymnToLife> if yout apache config allows it
[01:10] <DanglyBits> can someone suggest a webcam capture program in edgy for use with a logitech pro 4000 usb webcam?
[01:11] <fiendskull9> back
[01:11] <py__> HymnToLife: strange... it isn't working.  I enabled .htaccess files in apache and restarted.  Still just shows the text of the script.
[01:12] <fiendskull9> zcat[1] : the tvcard isnt labeled.
[01:12] <fiendskull9> zcat[1] : but i know for sure its a bt848, because it sais that on there
[01:12] <derek_> Anyone uses straw feed reader?
[01:12] <fiendskull9> zcat[1] : i also tryed modprobe bttv, and tuner
[01:12] <zcat[1] > lspci might help.. or not.
[01:13] <py__> derek: I use liferea -- it's great
[01:13] <fiendskull9> gah, brb
[01:13] <derek_> I removed it. It doesn't give any pop-up notification of new feeds
[01:14] <derek_> I have to manually check in the window
[01:14] <boxubi> can anyone who's run Ubuntu on an AMD64 machine tell me if there is a noticeable speed/stability increase compared to corrent 32-bit machines?
[01:14] <boxubi> current*
[01:15] <zcat[1] > or try one card-id at a time until something works.
[01:16] <DagonX> would someone recommend a good burner program to bun ISO DVD's
[01:16] <nikosapi> DagonX: k3b
[01:17] <DagonX> thanks
[01:18] <aib_> does anyone recommend a how-to for creating .deb packages from source?
[01:18] <aib_> makedeb isn't very robust
[01:18] <linopil> cntb,
[01:21] <linopil> !alternatives
[01:21] <ubotu> To change the default applications system-wide, use 'sudo update-alternatives --all' in a terminal.
[01:22] <emilia> can someone help me out, i cant logon to my system, when i type in my credentials, it goes right back to the login screen, even if i choose failsafe, so now im in console :(
[01:22] <emilia> is there anyways i can redo my system, and not format whats in /home?
[01:23] <Aggrav8d> you know you've been coding too long when you type /join $php
[01:24] <Aggrav8d> anyways
[01:24] <zcat[1] > emilia: look in .Xsession-errors and see what's making it fail?
[01:24] <emilia> zcat[1]  : where is that? /~ ?
[01:25] <zcat[1] > sorry, .xsession-errors -- yeah, in ~
[01:25] <emilia> man
[01:25] <emilia> i pressed ctrl + alt+ f2
[01:25] <emilia> and a new console wont start
[01:25] <emilia> its just a black screen
[01:25] <viator> lol
[01:26] <linopil> \o emilia
[01:26] <emilia> so now i have to quit bitchx to check that file?
[01:26] <zcat[1] > emilia: hmmm.. when you installed did you put /home on it's own partition?
[01:26] <emilia> zcat[1]  no:( :(:(
[01:26] <linopil>  emilia invited to linguistics
[01:26] <emilia> zcat[1]  : i didnt know about partitions until after i installed ubuntu like months ago
[01:27] <emilia> linguistics?
[01:27] <linopil> yeah nice place
[01:27] <zcat[1] > Chances are the problem is your .gnome settings or something anyhow.. reisntalling and leaving /home wouldn't fix it :)
[01:27] <emilia> so can i do somethign like aptitude reinstall gnome/
[01:27] <emilia> ?
[01:28] <emilia> or erase ~/.gnome ?
[01:28] <zcat[1] > Add a new user and see if they can log in, that would narrow it down fairly quick
[01:28] <emilia> i still dont get why i cant open another console
[01:28] <emilia> how do i add another user?
[01:28] <zcat[1] > yeah, that is weird too..
[01:28] <tux-kalle> hi, what file commander has got ubuntu, just installed 1st time ;;)
[01:28] <zcat[1] > sudo adduser
[01:28] <emilia> sudo adduser username ?
[01:29] <tux-kalle> i searched for mc
[01:29] <linopil> how newbie are you emilia ?
[01:29] <n2diy> emilia: that should work.
[01:29] <zcat[1] > yeah (can never remember, some systems prompt for the username, I think ubuntu expects it on the commandline)
[01:29] <emilia> linopil : extremely, but im learnign fast :)
[01:29] <linopil> tux-kalle,  I love krusader in kde
[01:29] <linopil> good emilia
[01:30] <tux-kalle> oh, this one i knew from debian, works fine
[01:30] <emilia> ok, ill try adduser, brb
[01:30] <linopil> try  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:30] <tux-kalle> well, so i'll try to install it
[01:30] <linopil> try sudo apt-cache search kde
[01:30] <linopil> try sudo apt-cache search "whatever"
[01:31] <linopil>  tux-kalle see above
[01:31] <linopil> try  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:32] <emilia> ok
[01:32] <emilia> im logged in as root
[01:32] <emilia> and gnome is a-ok
[01:33] <clemyeats> hi
[01:33] <bruenig> !hi | clemyeats
[01:33] <ubotu> clemyeats: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:34] <touch> Okay, I'm officially lost. I've tried using the default wacom entries in the xorg.conf to make my touchscreen work, that didn't work, I've loaded a second driver, added it to xorg.conf and that didn't work.. how do I get this thing to at least accept there's a touchscreen?
[01:34] <Shdw|Laptop> I'm trying to run TvTime on Ubuntu 6.10 with a ATI Radeon X1600 (I did install the ATI drivers), but I get an error that says: "xvoutput: No XVIDEO port found which supports YUY2 images." Would anyone know how to fix this?
[01:34] <tux-kalle> tried sudo apt-get install krusader, but package was not found
[01:35] <emilia> now how to fix my profile :(
[01:35] <bruenig> !info krudader
[01:35] <ubotu> Package krudader does not exist in any distro I know
[01:35] <bruenig> !info krusader
[01:35] <ubotu> krusader: twin-panel (commander-style) file manager for KDE (and other desktops). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.70.1-1 (edgy), package size 2547 kB, installed size 6940 kB
[01:35] <bruenig> tux-kalle, it is in universe, do you have that enabled?
[01:35] <n2diy> emilia: not a good idea logging in as root, create another user, like Emily.
[01:35] <tux-kalle> i dont think so
[01:36] <emilia> n2diy: how come?
[01:36] <bruenig> tux-kalle, have you ever messed with /etc/apt/sources.list?
[01:36] <tux-kalle> yes, with my 1st steps in debian
[01:36] <n2diy> emilia:  then you can copy Emily's stuff to Emilia's.
[01:36] <bruenig> tux-kalle, copy and paste the following then, the entire thing, it will enabled all extra repos, update, and then install krusader, sudo sed -e 's/# deb/deb/g' -e 's/edgy universe/edgy universe multiverse/g' -e 's/edgy-security universe/edgy-security universe multiverse/g' -i.backup /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install krusader
[01:36] <emilia> n2diy:  can i rename it emily to emilia after?
[01:36] <tux-kalle> but there i got mc midnight commander ;9
[01:37] <n2diy> emilia:  I suppose, but you would have to remove Emilia first.
[01:37] <emilia> n2diy: thats fine
[01:37] <emilia> n2diy: i dont know what the hell im doing, i dont think ubuntu is for me
[01:38] <w3ccv> emilia, never think of root as a user - but rather as a a dangerous tool
[01:38] <thejapa> emilia: take it slow
[01:38] <n2diy> emilia: you'll love it, once you get the hang of it.
[01:39] <emilia> wheres users?
[01:39] <emilia> its not in administration?
[01:39] <bruenig> tux-kalle, did that work?
[01:39] <n2diy> emilia:  /system/admin/users and groups
[01:40] <jmiller565> can someone help me with my printer?
[01:40] <emilia> hrmm i did alt+f2, then users-admin, and it says im not allowed to access it
[01:40] <bruenig> emilia, sudo users-admin
[01:40] <emilia> im logged in as root
[01:40] <bruenig> emilia, gksudo users-admin
[01:40] <bruenig> emilia, why are you logged in as root?
[01:40] <emilia> bruenig: my profile wont load
[01:40] <tux-kalle> bruening, slowly please, i'm not so fast
[01:41] <matallo> hello
[01:41] <bruenig> tux-kalle, just copy and paste the whole thing, it will do it
[01:41] <matallo> when the next kernel will be released?
[01:41] <bruenig> emilia, what do you mean your profile won't load?
[01:41] <w3ccv> matallo,  a couple weeks ago
[01:41] <emilia> bruenig: when i log in, it goes right back tot he login screen, even if i chose failsafe terminal
[01:42] <foo> I just copied my .gaim folder from ubuntu dapper to ubuntu edgy... and it doesn't copy any accounts/logs. Any ideas?
[01:42] <matallo> so, my remote can work, cuz it doesnt right now
[01:42] <matallo> and i've read it will
[01:42] <bruenig> emilia, no error message?
[01:42] <tux-kalle> seems to work
[01:42] <jmiller565> can someone help with connecting my ubunutu machine to a printer which is connected to a windows xp computer?
[01:42] <emilia> bruenig: no, the screen turns black, and then the login screen appears again
[01:42] <matallo> just one remote that lirc doesn't handle, and it's mine
[01:42] <bruenig> emilia, and you have tried, just doing ctrl + alt + f1 and going into one of those and it doesn't work?
[01:43] <matallo> :(
[01:43] <n2diy> bruenig: she was told to create a new user, and she chose to name it root.
[01:43] <emilia> bruenig: yeah it works
[01:43] <bruenig> n2diy, but root is not root, just the name of a normal user?
[01:43] <jmiller565> plz can someone help with connecting my ubunutu machine to a printer which is connected to a windows xp computer?
[01:43] <n2diy> bruenig: yes
[01:43] <bruenig> n2diy, oh
[01:43] <BiNz> jmiller565, did you run the printer setup?
[01:43] <BlackHawk> gn8
[01:43] <emilia> jmiller565: share the printer on your windows computer, then browse for it in ubuntu
[01:44] <jmiller565> i have . it connects but when i try to print something out it doesn't
[01:44] <foo> I just copied my .gaim folder from ubuntu dapper to ubuntu edgy... and it doesn't copy any accounts/logs. Any ideas?
[01:44] <n2diy> bruenig: I suggested she create a user, named Emily, and go from there.
[01:44] <teratorn> how do I disable gdm and enable logging in through the Linux console?
[01:44] <BiNz> brb movie is on
[01:44] <jmiller565> i gets ready to but then stops
[01:44] <emilia> n2diy: i did that, now if i login as emily, will i have the priveleges to edit the accounts/
[01:44] <emilia> ?
[01:44] <matallo> teratorn just press ctrl+f1
[01:44] <teratorn> (I know how to prevent gdm from starting.. but that still doesn't get me to a text console)
[01:47] <n2diy> emilia: yes, but you will be prompted for the password.
[01:47] <teratorn> matallo: yeah, I was just wondering if there was some way to make VT1 the default
[01:47] <emilia> n2diy: ok im going to try now to login as the new user, thanks for the help!! :)
[01:47] <zcat[1] > emilia: this is just a diagnostic step, we're trying to narrow down if the problem is your system, or your user config. If you create a new user and it works, we'll look at how to fix your existing user's config.
[01:47] <matallo> there must be a way
[01:47] <matallo> but i dunno
[01:47] <jmiller565> emilia: i have shared my printer and i have done the printer setup . it connects but when i try to print something out it doesn't
[01:47] <n2diy> zcat[1] : she created a new user, root of all things, and Gnome was ok. I had her create a user named Emily, and she is logging into that now.
[01:47] <bruenig> teratorn, sudo apt-get remove gdm?
[01:47] <jmiller565> anyone know what my problem is?
[01:47] <bruenig> teratorn, also I would be willing to wager that if you moved the gdm script out of /etc/init.d, that would do it
[01:47] <zcat[1] > you can create an ordinary user named 'root' ??
[01:48] <n2diy> zcat[1] : she did it!
[01:48] <touch> Finding what port this thing is connected on is the biggest part of my problem
[01:48] <atlantis> how can i install suns java in edgy? all tutorials i see say to install 'java-package' but it doesnt seem to be in any of the repos i have installed.
[01:48] <tux-kalle> buening, i fond krusader in my adept, had just to make a sign in checkbox unsupportet...
[01:48] <teratorn> bruenig: well that would be a terrible cludge.. I've disabled gdm from running with update-rd.d like you're supposed to :)
[01:48] <emilia> i cant login as my new user
[01:48] <emilia> same error
[01:48] <matallo> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186792 atlantis
[01:49] <zcat[1] > hmmm..
[01:49] <jmiller565> BiNZ: i have connected to it through Ubuntu but when i try to print something out it doesn't want to
[01:49] <emilia> if i go to console as root, and startx, thats the only way gnome starts.
[01:49] <zcat[1] > what was the error?
[01:49] <twissy> atlantis, u should see sun-java in default repo's
[01:49] <emilia> no error, just goes to a black screen, and right back to the login screen
[01:50] <jmiller565> how can i solve my printer problem?
[01:50] <emilia> also when i start the pc, and chose recovery mode from grub, it auto logs in as root, isnt that wrong?
[01:50] <n2diy> emila, where you playing wiht xorg.conf earlier, or was that someone else?
[01:50] <atlantis> twissy, there is no 'sun-java' in the repos...
[01:50] <emilia> n2diy : no
[01:50] <zcat[1] > emilia: no, that's what recovery mode is..
[01:51] <twissy> atlantis enable all repos in synaptic
[01:51] <emilia> zcat[1]  : but it didnt even ask for a password, isnt that kind of not secure?
[01:51] <zcat[1] > kind of. If someone has console access, nothing is secure.
[01:52] <seraphim> emilia: you can set a password for grub
[01:52] <emilia> my system is not only not secure, but not working :(
[01:52] <zcat[1] > .. cos with physical access they can always just boot a live CD and have access to everything anyhow
[01:53] <w3ccv> emilia, this isn't much help. but I've had the same problem logging in with both Solaris (sun) and Red Hat - it'
[01:53] <seraphim> zcat[1] : you can disable booting from cd and set a password in bios. so an evil person would have to open the box...;)
[01:53] <n2diy> emilia: your system is secure from everything except whom ever might be sitting at your keyboard.
[01:53] <atlantis> twissy, i have enabled them all via /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:53] <w3ccv> s an X problem
[01:53] <SurfnKid> is there a way to make ubuntu fade to screensaver but not completely darken
[01:53] <zcat[1] > seraphim: true. But if you know how to do that, you'll likely know how to set a grub password too.
[01:53] <SurfnKid> and yet place a password box in the middle of the screen
[01:53] <SurfnKid> this so its still visible for anyone
[01:53] <twissy> atlantis, i got sun-java-5 in synaptic
[01:53] <n2diy> w3cvv, she created a user named root, and he can log in!
[01:54] <emilia> so does anyone know a way i can go back to a default install and not lose the stuff on my hd?
[01:54] <zcat[1] > emilia: boot a live cd and SCP everything to another machine..
[01:54] <twissy> atlantis google for automatix2, that also installs java for u
[01:54] <emilia> whats scp?
[01:54] <zcat[1] > copy over the network
[01:54] <w3ccv> n2diy, yes, an X problem for the user, not an overall X problem.  Darned it but I dont' remember the fix  Probably about 3am I will
[01:55] <jmiller565> anyone know what my printer problem is?
[01:55] <zcat[1] > you have another machine somewhere?
[01:55] <emilia> jmiller565 : did you share it on winxp?
[01:55] <jmiller565> emilia: yea
[01:55] <timo901> hey i have a problem ,when ever i log back on my keyboard layout gets massed up
[01:55] <emilia> zcat[1]  : no, and i only have a 40gb hd and its more or less full
[01:55] <twissy> atlantis :  http://www.debianadmin.com/install-automatix2-in-ubuntukubuntuxubuntu.html
[01:55] <timo901> its sapoe to be uk
[01:55] <timo901> sappose
[01:55] <emilia> jmiller565 : so make sure both pc's are on the same workgroup, and then browse your workgroup and add the printer
[01:56] <jmiller565> um... ok i'll try that
[01:56] <n2diy> w3ccv: yes, probably in xorg.conf? Where in 3 land are you?
[01:56] <zcat[1] > OK, try just removing /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf-custom
[01:56] <buuuch> Hello
[01:56] <jmiller565> emilia: um... ok i'll try that
[01:56] <linopil> emilia full of what
[01:56] <zcat[1] > 'wild guess'
[01:56] <emilia> linopil : alot of picture, music, and homework
[01:56] <linopil> must have burner
[01:56] <emilia> linopil : i do, but not a dvd burner, only cd
[01:56] <w30> Is there a command called filestat for Linux or is that just for Solaris?
[01:56] <w3ccv> n2diy, MD - Columbia
[01:56] <buuuch> Anyone know where i can find a guide for installing drivers for epia-sp?
[01:57] <linopil> good burn the most important to CDs
[01:57] <buuuch> cn400 chipset
[01:57] <emilia> linopil : how do i do that from console/
[01:57] <emilia> ?
[01:57] <n2diy> w3ccv: RR, I'm in Lansford, Carbon Co. PA.
[01:57] <zcat[1] > emilia: mkisofs -R -J -o something.iso directory/
[01:57] <emilia> oh man
[01:57] <zcat[1] > emilia: then cdrecord dev=/dev/cdrom something.iso
[01:58] <emilia> maybe i should just go out and buy a new hd
[01:58] <linopil> I burn from GUI - Graphical User Interface emilia
[01:58] <emilia> linopil : thats amazing
[01:58] <emilia> linopil : i wish i had a gui, thanks
[01:58] <linopil> what
[01:58] <buuuch> where is your gui emilia?
[01:58] <zcat[1] > emilia: If that's an option, its' the easiest.. install to the new drive, then plug the old one in as slave and recover what you want to keep.
[01:58] <linopil>  YOu have trouble with GUI
[01:58] <emilia> buuuch : id love to know
[01:59] <buuuch> you using ubuntu 610 live?
[01:59] <linopil> are you o Xp now or irssi in ubuntu ?
[01:59] <emilia> buuuch : no 6.10 isntalled
[01:59] <emilia> linopil : im in console
[01:59] <buuuch> has your gui worked before?
[01:59] <linopil> no X windows ?
[01:59] <emilia> linopil : now im in console
[01:59] <linopil> OK now in console
[01:59] <jmiller565> NZ
[01:59] <linopil> do df -h
[01:59] <emilia> zcat[1]  : yeah it would be, i just dont feel like shelling out 100$
[02:00] <emilia> linopil : whats df?
[02:00] <linopil> man df
[02:00] <BiNz> reformat
[02:00] <emilia> linopil : youre an idiot
[02:00] <linopil> d(isk)free
[02:00] <emilia> why would i reformat
[02:00] <linopil> tyvm emilia why
[02:00] <twissy> df = dubble-format
[02:01] <zcat[1] > df == disk free
[02:01] <BiNz> you cant get your gui working?
[02:01] <zcat[1] > tells you what space you have
[02:01] <linopil> how old are you to judge me hahahah
[02:01] <twissy> geez little humor was too much
[02:01] <linopil> twissy,  ???
[02:01] <twissy> :)
[02:02] <twissy> user walked away
[02:02] <linopil> what are you doing here
[02:02] <linopil> trolling?
[02:02] <timo901> can any one help with my key board lay out
[02:02] <zcat[1] > People get a bit stressed when their machine is messed up, it pays not to joke around too much :)
[02:02] <twissy> what's that
[02:02] <timo901> i have to keep changing ti after i log on
[02:02] <twissy> i see
[02:02] <linopil> hear that Twissy ?
[02:02] <linopil> tyvm
[02:03] <twissy> relax, too much stress is bad 4 ur heart
[02:03] <tux-kalle> at all: can i install rpm files in kubuntu?
[02:03] <bruenig>  /ignore *!*@219-90-167-147.ip.adam.com.au ALL
[02:03] <linopil> keep trolling ?
[02:03] <bruenig> woops
[02:03] <linopil> worry about yourself Iam OK
[02:03] <twissy> what am I saying
[02:03] <ntyrunm> i couldn't install ati drivers for my ubuntu box can anybody help me i wanna install xgl/beryl afterwards
[02:03] <twissy> geez u wanna feel powerfull by kicking me, just do it
[02:04] <clemyeats> tux-kalle: yes, but debs are far more suitable.
[02:04] <twissy> pfft
[02:04] <zcat[1] >  just /ign *.au all ..
[02:04] <linopil> and you go flame elsewhere twissy
[02:04] <zcat[1] > damn aussies..
[02:04] <zcat[1] > :)
[02:04] <tux-kalle> thx clemy
[02:06] <viator> no its not
[02:07] <ntyrunm> when i run fglrxinfo it says mesa 300 ... my graphics card is 9600xt
[02:07] <ntyrunm> i tried everything written on the how to's but they didn't work for me
[02:08] <Stormx2> ntyrunm: Searched ubuntuforums.org? Started a topic?
[02:08] <levander> I've had emacs and firefox both crash on me when I left them open while I left the computer for a few hours.  Is this pretty abnormal, or usual with edgy?  It never happened on any previous release I've used.
[02:08] <ChrisBradley> hello
[02:08] <Stormx2> levander: Its never happened to me full stop o.o Are you up-to-date?
[02:08] <clemyeats> levander: it shouldn't happen
[02:08] <Stormx2> hi ChrisBradley
[02:08] <ChrisBradley> hi Stormx2
[02:08] <zcat[1] > levander: odd, very odd.
[02:08] <levander> Stormx2: yeah, just updated today
[02:09] <zcat[1] > how'd you update?
[02:09] <Stormx2> !crash
[02:09] <ubotu> For help debugging your program, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures
[02:09] <Stormx2> :)
[02:09] <ntyrunm> i've searched ubuntuforums.org and followed the instructions step by step but
[02:09] <Jbba1221> anyone know how to get the xm online applet to work, it pulls up, and i click the channel, but then it shuts firefox down completely
[02:09] <zcat[1] > !update
[02:09] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:09] <Stormx2> ntyrunm: And rebooted?
[02:09] <ChrisBradley> been working on collecting friends...
[02:09] <levander> I use emacs as my IRC client, and am wondering if just the emacs buffers filled up so much with chat, that emacs just crashed.
[02:09] <ntyrunm> yes rebooted
[02:09] <w3ccv> levander, I'
[02:10] <levander> w3ccv: ?
[02:10] <ChrisBradley> I don't remember if we met before.
[02:10] <Life> how do i find what version of ubuntu i have?
[02:10] <Stormx2> levander: What's it like living in '95? :)
[02:10] <w3ccv> levander, I've had firefox dissappear on Edgy but I only have 256 memory
[02:10] <linopil> what is fglrxinfo ?
[02:10] <Stormx2> Life: Places > About Ubuntu
[02:10] <Life> stormx2: i dont have a desktop, how about command line?
[02:10] <rogue780> does anyone know the command line to restart X?
[02:11] <clemyeats> rogue780: CTRL + ALT + BACKSPACE
[02:11] <Stormx2> !version
[02:11] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[02:11] <Zahrber> rogue: startX I think
[02:11] <zcat[1] > rogue780: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[02:11] <levander> ChrisBradley: why are you working on collecting friends? you are selling something?
[02:11] <Stormx2> clemyeats: Command line....
[02:11] <linopil> rogue780,  why not ctrl alt backspace?
[02:11] <Life> ty
[02:11] <quibbage> #linuxhelp
[02:11] <clemyeats> Stormx2: oh.. sorry :)
[02:11] <levander> w3ccv: if you've got swap space, it still should have crashed
[02:11] <rogue780> clemyeats, linopil, so I can do it over SSH
[02:11] <rogue780> it's for my mythtv frontend
[02:11] <linopil> OK rogue780
[02:11] <ChrisBradley> just showing off my new website - new domain etc. - new channel. - everything's changed in like 3 days.
[02:12] <rogue780> zcat[1] , thanks
[02:12] <clemyeats> rogue780:  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[02:12] <ntyrunm> how do we close X?
[02:12] <rogue780> clemyeats, thanks
[02:12] <foob> is gdm the same thing as X11
[02:12] <ChrisBradley> got like 20 people in my channel now - never had that many before.
[02:12] <Stormx2> ChrisBradley: Please don't bring it in here. You might get away with it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:12] <clemyeats> foob: no
[02:12] <zcat[1] > ntyrunm: : sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[02:12] <Zahrber> ntyrunm: halt works for me
[02:12] <avalon> Fatal server error:
[02:12] <avalon> libc_wrapper error: passed invalid FILE handle to xf86fprintf
[02:12] <avalon> Anyone know how to fix that?
[02:12] <Zahrber> ; )
[02:12] <linopil> or rogue780:  sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restar ?
[02:12] <Stormx2> avalon: What were you running?
[02:12] <ChrisBradley> Thanks for the tip
[02:13] <zcat[1] > ntyrunm: : sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop -- covers gdm, kdm, xdm, etc...
[02:13] <rogue780> linopil, it's on xubuntu with openbox so it should be gdm
[02:13] <rogue780> thanks
[02:13] <avalon> Stormx2: A driver I loaded into xorg trying to get my touchscreen to work
[02:13] <linopil> ChrisBradley, where is your channel ?
[02:13] <foob> ah gdm = gnome display manager
[02:13] <ntyrunm> thanks
[02:13] <Stormx2> avalon: Eek! ubuntuforums.org my lad
[02:13] <dm> anyone know how ican format a  external USB drive to be fat32.
[02:14] <Zahrber> anyone here had any luck with NTFS-3G I can't get it to work with external USB HD enclosure been at it for a few hours
[02:14] <Stormx2> !format
[02:14] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[02:14] <avalon> Tried that Stormx2, no one knows :(
[02:14] <zcat[1] > dm: mkdosfs -F32 /dev/whatever
[02:14] <Stormx2> ZahrberZahrber: Checked the guide?
[02:14] <Stormx2> avalon: Aww that sucks! Leave it a little longer perhaps...
[02:14] <avalon> Tried for a few days now
[02:14] <Zahrber> Stormx2: been through the guide with a fine tooth comb and tried everything
[02:14] <ChrisBradley> np
[02:15] <Zahrber> since i have been trying to use NTFS-3G now my drive wwon't mount at all
[02:15] <Zahrber> I am about to go back to NTFStools
[02:16] <avalon> 6 days, three distros and still no touchscreen
[02:16] <Stormx2> avalon: That sucks! I don't know why it would be doing it. Perhaps the makers of the driver would have a website?
[02:16] <Nontitle> wow, sounds like you've done quite alot of work there
[02:16] <zcat[1] > perhaps it's broken? Does it work in 'doze ?
[02:16] <Lunar_Lamp> My router cannot detect the hostnames of the linux machines on my network.  How can I resolve this? Is there a way to install a name server or something on my netwrk?
[02:16] <eegore> Is ther a test utility to check the correct connection of the speaker sets\
[02:16] <avalon> Mhmm Stormx2, and they don't support linux ;)
[02:17] <quibbage> Any1 out there who uses beryl?
[02:17] <dm> avalon i wouldnt blame linux for that :)
[02:17] <Stormx2> avalon: I thought it was an X driver?
[02:17] <Stormx2> !beryl | quibbage
[02:17] <ubotu> quibbage: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[02:17] <Zahrber> Lunar: Do you have Samba running first off
[02:18] <zcat[1] > beryl still breaks too much stuff for me.. media, openGL, user switching... too much hassle
[02:18] <Stormx2> Zahrber: Would he need samba?
[02:18] <Zahrber> Lunar: Not sure depends on the frimware of the router
[02:18] <zcat[1] > perhaps I need a better card
[02:18] <Stormx2> Beryl breaks everything for me, X won't boot. But I'm using a pre-geforce nvidia card.... so it figures.
[02:18] <Zahrber> to get the computer names it has to ask the OS for the computer name
[02:19] <Zahrber> it isn't like MAC address and hard coded to hardware
[02:19] <Stormx2> Lunar_Lamp: Why does your router need to see the hostnames anyway?
[02:19] <rj45> hi
[02:19] <avalon> Well it is Stormx2, but it came from a site. Supposedly specially compiled for Dapper but alas
[02:19] <Zahrber> most router only need the internal IP's
[02:19] <rj45> is it posible can i sell ubuntu dedicated servers?
[02:20] <Lunar_Lamp> Stormx2, I like it to be able to. I have several machines hooked up to it and it makes my life easier if I can see which one is which in the router interface.
[02:20] <Zahrber> rj45 you can sell anything if someone will buy it
[02:20] <zcat[1] > rj45: don't see why not...
[02:20] <n2diy> rj45: why not?
[02:20] <rj45> ahh ok :D
[02:20] <Lunar_Lamp> Zahrber, what does samba have to do with anything?
[02:20] <Zahrber> in the dhcp table it sometimes shows names of PC's with my Linksys and sometimes not
[02:20] <Nontitle> avalon: have you tried XFree86 at all? or just Xorg?
[02:20] <Stormx2> I agree with that point. Samba should not come into this.
[02:21] <avalon> Not familiar with XFree86. Does it work with Ubuntu? Would it detect a touchscreen?
[02:21] <Zahrber> I know but he said computer names so that comes to network protocols not Ip addresses
[02:22] <Nontitle> it might. i don't use XFree86 much, but it might
[02:22] <mborg> I have installed lampp and it is running, however when i try to access http://localhost/ i get this error: Warning: file_get_contents(lang.tmp) [function.file-get-contents] : failed to open stream: Permission denied in /opt/lampp/htdocs/xampp/index.php on line 2
[02:22] <Zahrber> in Windows a name server lets u use names attached to Ip's within a windows network
[02:22] <avalon> So not going to be as simple as a sudo apt-get eh?
[02:22] <Nontitle> actually it might
[02:22] <avalon> Lemme aptitude it
[02:22] <Nontitle> are you using irc on the computer you are testing?
[02:23] <Zahrber> My Linksys Router doesn't always list all my PC's in the DHCP Table not even the windows machines
[02:23] <Nontitle> as well, what is the model of your touchscreen?
[02:23] <w3ccv> mborg, make sure that the directory/file has read permissions for the httpd server
[02:23] <avalon> USB model
[02:23] <Lunar_Lamp> My Belkin router can see the windows machines fine - it;s the linux machines it won't give me the hostnames of.
[02:23] <danny500> does anyone know how to get rid of the messeges off the screen in wesnoth?
[02:23] <agent> what is the easiest way to define a desktop wide shortcut (to start a custom program) in gnome?
[02:23] <Nontitle> cool
[02:23] <Lunar_Lamp> agent, right click on the desktop and click "create launcher"
[02:24] <stepanstas> hey guys
[02:24] <danny500> does anyone know how to get rid of the messeges off the screen in wesnoth?
[02:24] <Infeliz-> nope
[02:24] <cflcm_> how do I log in as root
[02:24] <agent> Lunar_Lamp: when i said shortcut i meant key shortcut.... as in, what is the easiest way to desktop wide bind a key to a program
[02:24] <Nontitle> su
[02:24] <Infeliz-> sudo -s
[02:24] <danny500> damn, I asked in the room made just for that game but none of the jerks would answer me
[02:25] <avalon> You usually don't need to cflcm_, it's best to sudo
[02:25] <Nontitle> sudo -s or you can use su -
[02:25] <danny500> well thanks anyways cya
[02:25] <cflcm_> yeah, i know, but I screwed some things up
[02:25] <stepanstas> i rebooted my os and (i have multi boot with windows and ubuntu) the windows was replaced by ubuntu (all three things were added inplace of the windows), how can i get it back
[02:25] <emilia> does anyone know how to take back ownership of a folder and make it 667 ?
[02:25] <emilia> i dont know what 667 means, but does it mean mine :) ?
[02:25] <emilia> for the /home folder
[02:25] <cflcm_> can you do it?
[02:26] <w3ccv> stepanstas, select the windows from the grup menu (during boot)
[02:26] <phil___> hola
[02:26] <emilia> stepanstas : if all else failes, you can overwrite grub by using the xp install cd, chosing repait, and then fixing the master boot record
[02:26] <emilia> *repair
[02:26] <n2diy> stepanstas: reboot, and chose Windows instead of Linux.
[02:26] <emilia> i think the command isits fixmbr
[02:26] <stepanstas> emilia: windows is not an option, it was replaced
[02:26] <emilia> *is
[02:26] <Nontitle> to take ownership sudo chown username  and 667 means rw-rw-rwx
[02:26] <stepanstas> n2diy: same as above
[02:27] <mborg> w3ccv, the directory and all of its files have read permissions
[02:27] <emilia> stepanstas : replaced, or just not in grub as an option?
[02:27] <n2diy> stepanstas: ok how about hda?
[02:27] <stepanstas> emilia: i guess not an option, well, i know its still in the system because i did not format, but..
[02:28] <emilia> n2diy : hey, i got gnome to load now with an error, it says hard drive full or not accessible to write auuthority ?
[02:28] <Nontitle> is windows still there, just not on grub? or is it removed altogethere?
[02:28] <mborg> w3ccv, nevermind it's been fixed
[02:28] <stepanstas> emilia: this was my order: windows, ubuntu:(just a name, had no function, then the three ubuntu things (generic....
[02:28] <emilia> stepanstas : so you can do what i said earlier, all you need is the xp cd
[02:28] <buuuch> can anyone help me with a problem im having with unichrome installation guide on the wiki?
[02:28] <n2diy> emila, what does df -h tell you?
[02:28] <emilia> stepanstas : but then you would lose ubuntu
[02:28] <Nontitle> i have two completely seperate hard drives that i swap out when i want to use windws or ubuntu
[02:29] <stepanstas> emilia: and now its the three ubuntus, Ubuntu: (just the name, no function) and again the three ubuntus,
[02:29] <zcat[1] > emilia: df -dh    I think I know what your problem is :)
[02:29] <DarthLappy> stepanstas: Edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[02:29] <emilia> n2diy : 27gb partition, 26 gb used, no space left, 100% used
[02:29] <w3ccv> mborg, index.php sounds exectuable to me, mabe not but try making that file exectuable
[02:29] <zcat[1] > yep.. you need to free up some space.
[02:29] <Nontitle> stepanstas: go into ubuntu and type grub-update i dont know but it might do something
[02:29] <n2diy> emilia:  not a good thing.
[02:29] <emilia> zcat[1]  : so its not a ownership thing?
[02:29] <Nontitle> sorry, sudo grub-update
[02:29] <buuuch> ???
[02:30] <buuuch> can anyone help me with a problem im having with unichrome installation guide on the wiki?
[02:30] <emilia> but i technically should have 1 gb free
[02:30] <zcat[1] > emilia: It's an 'i can't write anything to anywhere' thing
[02:30] <emilia> zcat[1]  : that sounds wonderful
[02:30] <n2diy> emilia: it is probably reserved for swapping, and other system stuff.
[02:31] <zcat[1] > 5% gets reserved for critical system use. Sounds like you really do need another HDD.
[02:31] <stepanstas> here is the thing, i have xp on a 160 gb drive, and ubuntu on a seperate 9 gb drive
[02:31] <biotrox> hey all, need to cut & paste songs with file extensions of mp3, wav, ogg, etc... what s/w must i use..?
[02:31] <Nontitle> do you have a swap partition?
[02:31] <emilia> zcat[1]  im going to try and erase something, then log in, thanks
[02:31] <Nontitle> why would you put ubuntu on a 9gb drive?
[02:31] <stepanstas> i dont know if editing menu.lst would help since both lead to ubuntu
[02:31] <n2diy> biotrox: take a look at audacity..
[02:32] <avalon> Well apparently Nontitle, xfree86 works better on older machines.. so maybe it'll love my screen
[02:32] <zcat[1] > Nontitle: because it fits, as long as you don't add too many packages or user files.
[02:32] <stepanstas> nontitle: my main function for ubuntu is internet
[02:32] <avalon> Looks like Nontitle is popular ;)
[02:32] <Nontitle> i know :)
[02:32] <zcat[1] > Nontitle: although personally I'd have used xubuntu. Cos if you have a 9G drive chances are it's an older machine too.
[02:32] <stepanstas> emilia: is the windows cd my only option?
[02:33] <avalon> BRB, dinner's a calling. Gumbo :D
[02:33] <eigenlambda> ok, i have nothing else to do.  feisty.  how2install?
[02:34] <zcat[1] > ~feisty
[02:34] <eigenlambda> !feisty > eigenlambda
[02:34] <zcat[1] > ~feisty
[02:34] <zcat[1] > Ahh crap..
[02:34] <zcat[1] > !feisty
[02:34] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[02:35] <stepanstas> ok, does anyone else multi boot with xp pro?
[02:35] <buuuch> can anyone help me with a problem im having with unichrome installation guide on the wiki?
[02:35] <Nontitle> did you try sudo grub-update?
[02:35] <emilia> omg it worked
[02:35] <emilia> but now i get HAL failed to load
[02:36] <zcat[1] > my lappy's running far too well atm. I should put feisty on it just to make life interesting
[02:36] <emilia> and alt+f2 wont work
[02:36] <emilia> wwwwwow
[02:36] <stepanstas> emilia: do you have xp on your computer to?
[02:36] <emilia> stepanstas: no
[02:37] <Stormx2> zcat[1] : I wouldn't recommend it
[02:37] <stepanstas> emilia: do you think that copying the text that another person has to my menu.lst would work?
[02:37] <zcat[1] > Stormx2: I'll partimage it first. If FF sucks too bad I'll go back to EE
[02:37] <emilia> stepanstas: i dont know, ive never manually configured grub
[02:38] <w3ccv> !pastebin
[02:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:38] <emilia> stepanstas: is ubuntu a new isntallation? or do you really want to keep it/
[02:38] <Nontitle> stepanstas: what happens when you do sudo grub-update?
[02:39] <stepanstas> i would prefer to keep it, i dont really have anything saved, but i changed a lot of stuff and added things
[02:39] <stepanstas> nontitle: im new to ubuntu, is that a command?
[02:39] <zcat[1] > scictt. two more sleeps. :)
[02:39] <biotrox> audacity can't export to wma..?
[02:39] <spacing_guild> anyone know anything about Kino?
[02:39] <Nontitle> oh sorry - yes it is
[02:40] <biotrox> what s/w must i use to convert mp3, wav, ogg, etc to wma..?
[02:40] <biotrox> !wma
[02:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:40] <zcat[1] > biotrox: "winXP"
[02:40] <biotrox> zcat[1] : in ubuntu please.. not in winxp
[02:41] <biotrox> i need to convert some file to wma
[02:41] <emilia> stepanstas: its happened to me, what i did was boot the xp cd, choose repair, then type fixmbr, itll overwrite grub, and you can boot to xp
[02:41] <zcat[1] > perhaps mencoder+win32codecs can do it, I'm not sure
[02:41] <cflcm_> anyone use grip?
[02:41] <w3ccv> stepanstas, a sample menu.lst   =  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38443/
[02:41] <zcat[1] > why would you want to?
[02:41] <stepanstas> nontitle:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38444/
[02:41] <w3ccv> cflcm_,   yes
[02:42] <echostorm> hi guys. Does anyone know what tool to get to burn .img files? Gnomebabker doesnt see them as valid images
[02:42] <w3ccv> cflcm_, your question about it
[02:42] <cflcm_> well, I want to set it up to automatically rip cds, and to do that it either needs to refuse to open multiple instances of itself, or close when it is done. is that possible?
[02:42] <stepanstas> w3ccv: is # For booting OS/2 considered xp?
[02:43] <stepanstas> emilia: i would like repairing xp to be my last resort
[02:44] <w3ccv> cflcm_, it really hogs system resources, I wouldn't try it with two cd readers
[02:44] <cflcm_> is there another one that will rip-on-cd-insert, and use LAME?
[02:44] <w3ccv> stepanstas, there is a Win2000 section near the bottom.
[02:44] <zcat[1] > stepanstas: what drive/partition is XP on?
[02:44] <Nontitle> oops - messup. it's actually sudo update-grub
[02:45] <stepanstas> in xp its considered local disk c, default
[02:45] <zcat[1] > cflcm_: change the on-insert commant for CD's to "killall -0 grip || grip" and it will only run grip if it isn't already running.
[02:45] <linopil> !restricted
[02:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:45] <zcat[1] > *command
[02:45] <linopil> !flashplayer
[02:46] <cflcm_> zcat[1] , awesome, thank you!
[02:46] <stepanstas> w3ccv: sould i try http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38446/
[02:47] <Riyonuk> How do I get wireless working in ubuntu?
[02:47] <w3ccv> stepanstas, here's from my working (FC4)/W2k system  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38447/
[02:47] <linopil> zcat[1] , you are not the same zcat from #fedora ?right?
[02:48] <zcat[1] > linopil: nope. There's a zcat in #fedore?
[02:48] <Nontitle> stepanstas: post your grub.conf file
[02:48] <affle> ack. help. I have stupidly removed lvm2 and md, thinking I had no md devices. Now I can't boot. Suggestions?
[02:48] <linopil> yep  /whois zcat to see
[02:48] <zcat[1] > affle: 'don't do that'
[02:48] <stepanstas> nontitle: do you mean menu.lst?
[02:48] <affle> zcat[1] , ty. Now what?
[02:48] <alex_>  I am playing a DVD with kaffeine but am unable to get subtitles ? How can I get them ?
[02:48] <w3ccv> stepanstas, don't copy anything from the FC4 section - make sure your Ubuntu stuff is untouched.  And if you edit with Emacs, get rid of the menu.lst~ file.
[02:49] <zcat[1] > affle: ummmm...
[02:49] <Nontitle> yeah
[02:49] <affle> zcat[1] , the partition is still there, I can mount it with a rescue disk, but it still won't boot.
[02:49] <linopil> !flash
[02:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:50] <pfaftle> can somebody please help a linux noob with an install issue? /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[02:50] <stepanstas> w3ccv, i will try to add another one to the list, the one thats for 98, nt, 2000. i will see if it works and get back to you
[02:50] <zcat[1] > affle: I suspect you can boot to a working system using the rescue CD kernel and modules, and then reinstall the stuff you need.. but I'm not sure how.
[02:51] <affle> zcat[1] , ok. :(
[02:51] <affle> zcat[1] , This appears not to work.
[02:52] <pfaftle> can somebody please help a linux noob with an install issue? /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[02:52] <stepanstas> w3ccv: quick question, i forgot what the command is to edit a read only file
[02:52] <Stormx2> stepanstas: sudo editor
[02:53] <Stormx2> stepanstas: Do you mean one owned by root (outside of your ~)
[02:53] <Stormx2> stepanstas: Editor can be anything like gedit... etc
[02:53] <stepanstas> Stormx2: im the root user
[02:54] <Nontitle> w3ccv: are you using i different version of grub or something?
[02:54] <w3ccv> stepanstas, which editor are you using
[02:54] <Nontitle> it says it's grub.conf
[02:54] <w3ccv> Nontitle, here on RH there are both grub.conf and menu.lst - linked
[02:54] <stepanstas> w3ccv: which one is the easiest
[02:54] <stepanstas> ?
[02:55] <Nontitle> oh you're using redhat, now i see
[02:55] <mborg> i'm perplexed here...i'm trying to run lampp and i'm getting these two errors now: Warning: include(lang/en .php) [function.include] : failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /opt/lampp/htdocs/xampp/index.php on line 12
[02:55] <mborg> Warning: include() [function.include] : Failed opening 'lang/en .php' for inclusion (include_path='.:/opt/lampp/lib/php') in /opt/lampp/htdocs/xampp/index.php on line 12
[02:55] <foo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI - I just followed this, and I get this OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org from $ fglrxinfo .. so I imagine something is wrong. I did everything it said, and sudo modprobe fglrx says FATAL: Error running install command for fglrx - any ideas?
[02:55] <Nontitle> mborg: this is #ubuntu, not ##php
[02:55] <w3ccv> stepanstas, depends on what you use - using vi just save it with a w! it will ignore read only.
[02:55] <kitche> w3ccv: grub.conf hasn't been used for years actually
[02:55] <mborg> this is true nontitle
[02:55] <mborg> my apologies
[02:55] <w3ccv> kitche, that's what I thought
[02:55] <pfaftle> can somebody please help a linux noob with an install issue? /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[02:56] <zcat[1] > !ask | pfaftle
[02:56] <ubotu> pfaftle: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:56] <stepanstas> w3ccv: does the same apply for the text editor
[02:56] <linopil> !java
[02:56] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[02:57] <w3ccv> I only use Emacs - or vi if I'm despirate
[02:57] <Stormx2> stepanstas: You're running as root? O_O why?
[02:57] <zcat[1] > does w! ignore owned-by-root ?
[02:57] <pfaftle> well, ok then XD
[02:57] <stepanstas> stormx2: i am the only user on the comp
[02:57] <slicky> foo: hm, seams strange..  have you got a clean install?
[02:57] <BiNz> !w
[02:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:58] <pfaftle> i get /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off when i try to boot into ubuntu for the first time after install
[02:58] <ruscoekm> Hi.  I am trying to sync a Palm T2 to Evolution running on 6.10 with all updates installed.  gpilotd (I assume) successfully creates the /dev/pilot device and the sync has completed a couple of times.  Almost always though, it appears to hang.  Any thoughts?
[02:58] <Stormx2> !lamp | mborg
[02:58] <ubotu> mborg: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[02:58] <linopil> Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Macromedia's Flash Player. Get the latest flash player.
[02:58] <linopil> what is free java
[02:58] <pfaftle> i get /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off when i try to boot into ubuntu for the first time after install... how do i fix this?
[02:59] <stepanstas> w3ccv: if i was to use the text editor, so i just put a ! after the name, i thought there was a way to do it through terminal
[02:59] <avalon> !xfree86
[02:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xfree86 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:59] <Nontitle> stepanstas: add this to the end of your menu.lst file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38450/
[02:59] <foo> slicky: yes.
[02:59] <pfaftle> i get /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off when i try to boot into ubuntu for the first time after install... how do i fix this?
[03:00] <MrSprout> how do i check my kernel version?
[03:00] <avalon> Grr.. looks like a last shot for me would be to do a Debian install.. but I don't wanna get rid of Ubuntu
[03:00] <dgunn> MrSprout, uname -a
[03:00] <w3ccv> stepanstas, vi is the only editor I know that allows writing to a read-only file.
[03:00] <Nontitle> vi can write to a read-only file?
[03:00] <zcat[1] > pfaftle: what kind of hardware are you installing on?
[03:00] <dgunn> When I change my resolution (by removing modes in xorg.conf) it doesnt have any effect
[03:01] <kitche> avalon: ubuntu uses xorg just like debian does, what's your problem?
[03:01] <MrSprout> Could someone guide me through getting my nvidia drivers installed?
[03:01] <w3ccv> stepanstas, other editors are strangers to me - don't use them, never have (probably never will)
[03:01] <stepanstas> nontile: will do as soon as i access the non read only
[03:01] <dgunn> When I change my resolution (by removing modes in xorg.conf) it doesnt have any effect.. any idea why??
[03:01] <w3ccv> Nontitle, yes   w!
[03:01] <stepanstas> w3ccv: where is vi?
[03:01] <dgunn> MrSprout, install automatix
[03:01] <avalon> I need xfree86 kitche, it's pretty much the last hope for my touchscreen
[03:01] <dgunn> MrSprout, then add nvidia drivers.. worked for me
[03:01] <MrSprout> dgunn, will that get me the latest ones?
[03:01] <w3ccv> stepanstas, you'd find it faster to chmod the file than try to learn vi
[03:01] <pfaftle> i get /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off when i try to boot into ubuntu for the first time after install... could someone guide me through how to fix this?
[03:01] <MrSprout> It's quite important they're the latest ones.
[03:02] <dgunn> MrSprout, dont know ifits the latest but it worked for me
[03:02] <kitche> avalon: then you will have to compile it by hand that's the only way that I know that you can even ususe it since not many distros have packages for it
[03:02] <vook> question: something (acpid, gnome-power-management, ??) is causing my laptop to use the battery as the power source after it is fully charged.  Considering lithium ion batteries only have so many recharge cycles in their life, how can I go about forcing the laptop to run off of AC power while still keeping the battery in the computer?
[03:02] <stepanstas> w3ccv: the problem is, i dont know aht chmod is either
[03:02] <dgunn> When I change my resolution (by removing modes in xorg.conf) it doesnt have any effect.. any idea why??
[03:02] <yurimxpxman> hey guys, I could use some help here setting up my D-Link DWL-G122 wireless USB adapter.. could someone please help a brother out? :)
[03:02] <avalon> Sounds fun kitche
[03:02] <avalon> Is it much different from xorg?
[03:03] <pfaftle> i get /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off when i try to boot into ubuntu for the first time after install... could someone guide me through how to fix this?
[03:03] <w3ccv> stepanstas,   cd /boot/grub ; ls -l menu.lst ;#remember the permissions now; chmod 700 menu.lst
[03:03] <foo> How can I add an nfs mount to /etc/fstab?
[03:03] <zcat[1] > pfaftle: what kind of hardware are you installing on? (the problem is WAY before you get this message, the system is failing to load at all and falling through to a minimal shell)
[03:03] <foo> The UUID stuff is throwing me off.
[03:03] <w3ccv> stepanstas, when you're finished editing , chmod back to what you were to remember.
[03:03] <dgunn> foo, search google groups on that.. ive seen that a million times
[03:03] <yurimxpxman> anybody here know anything about using wireless adapters in ubuntu? I'm stuck
[03:04] <chimaera> gtk themes dun seem to work on a fresh edgy! it looks really wierd... same theme works fine on dapper upgraded to edgy
[03:04] <stepanstas> w3ccv: i hate not understanding one thing you just said
[03:04] <foo> dgunn: :/ There better be a good reason for UUID.
[03:04] <n2diy> pfaftle, if you can't get to a terminal, you don't have a chance of fix anything, other re-install.
[03:04] <pfaftle> zcat: its a toshiba portege 3480ct
[03:04] <dgunn> foo, what is UUID?
[03:04] <foo> # grep UUID /etc/fstab
[03:04] <foo> UUID=1bde41c5-a1ef-4cc0-8f59-12cffba6187c /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[03:05] <foo> dgunn: ^
[03:05] <avalon> Aside from Canoical, is there any pay site I could contact to get one time support for a problem?
[03:05] <yurimxpxman> c'mon... anybody know anything about wireless adapters? I need help :(
[03:05] <w3ccv> stepanstas, the first was the commands to make the file writable
[03:05] <vook> yurimxpxman: can you get the modules installed?
[03:05] <chimaera> can anyone get gtk theme to work on fresh edgy? it looks really wierd... same theme works fine on dapper upgraded to edgy
[03:05] <Life> how do i unmount?
[03:05] <foo> Life: umount
[03:05] <yurimxpxman> vook: well, I used ndiswrapper to install the driver and it's showing up in the network devices, but I still can't connect to the internet.
[03:05] <Life> ty
[03:05] <stepanstas> w3ccv: so that goes in terminal?
[03:06] <vook> yurimxpxman: what happens if you type 'iwlist scanning' ?
[03:06] <pfaftle> zcat: its a toshiba portege 3480ct, p3 600
[03:06] <vook> yurimxpxman: or better 'iwlist scanning | grep ESSID'
[03:06] <Khisanth> foo: you can still use host:/path mountpoint nfs options ...
[03:06] <foo> Khisanth: Ok, so I don't need UUID. :/
[03:07] <chimaera> can anyone get gtk theme to work on fresh edgy? it looks really wierd... same theme works fine on dapper upgraded to edgy
[03:07] <yurimxpxman> vook: I get ESSID:"default"
[03:07] <zcat[1] > pfaftle: not famililar with it; are there any earlier errors about failing to find root, or similar?
[03:07] <Khisanth> foo: I don't think you can for NFS :)
[03:07] <pfaftle> zcat: it comes up while trying to find/load root
[03:08] <FirstStrike> it seems that sine i installed the crossover beta..it wants to take care of running everything flash, instead of letting the flash plugin handle flash
[03:08] <w3ccv> stepanstas,  sri, but if you don't understand commands, better have someone that does - or you could loose the entire system. There should be a *nix geek inthe neighborhood that would like to earn a beer.
[03:08] <vook> yurimxpxman: ok, that's good, it means your wireless card is working, and finding the wireless network 'default' (typical of netgear routers (I think))
[03:08] <zcat[1] > pfaftle: I had a similar issue with a DL360 server.. this kind of problem can be a bitch to solve..
[03:08] <FirstStrike> and now everything flash won't load >_>
[03:08] <vook> yurimxpxman: what is the name of the interface?
[03:08] <pfaftle> zcat: any ideas??
[03:08] <vook> yurimxpxman: ie. eth1 wlan0, etc...
[03:08] <yurimxpxman> vook: wlan0
[03:09] <vook> yurimxpxman: ok, type 'iwconfig wlan0 essid default' then type 'dhclient wlan0'
[03:09] <pfaftle> zcat: or should i just try another distro?
[03:09] <raknam> how do i upgrade from breezy badger to the latest release without reinstallation?
[03:10] <linopil> !flash
[03:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:10] <zcat[1] > pfaftle: yeah, problem is likely that it's either failed to install a module it requires to access root, or is getting confused about where the root filesystem is supposed to be.  You probably need to get some hands-on help from your local LUG, or prepare to learn way more than you ever wanted to know about initrd and stuff via IRC...
[03:10] <vook> yurimxpxman: make sure you have no other network adapters enabled (unless you are planing on creating a linux router (i.e. ifconfig eth0 down)
[03:10] <yurimxpxman> vook: Doing that, I no longer get the "Server not found" message, but it continuingly says "Connecting to ..."
[03:10] <yurimxpxman> vook: no other adapters are enabled
[03:10] <vook> yurimxpxman: can you ping 4.2.2.1
[03:10] <pfaftle> zcat: i'm willing to learn ^^
[03:10] <zcat[1] > pfaftle: another distro might work better. Or it might have the same issue. I guess it's worth trying
[03:11] <rubix_> i cannot start x at all..i think i may have a driver issue, it just turns into a black screen
[03:11] <stepanstas> w3ccv: i once edited the file, all i had to do was type in a command or something, but i forget what it was
[03:11] <yurimxpxman> vook: yes, I can
[03:11] <stepanstas> w3ccv: that was easy for me
[03:11] <zcat[1] > pfaftle: I'm not willing to teach :) I had enough trouble just getting my own server sorted and I lack patience
[03:12] <pfaftle> zcat: lol, fair enough :)
[03:12] <vook> yurimxpxman: 4.2.2.1 is a public dns server, essid default probably has a funky DNS setting.  Easy.  type 'killall dhclient' and then 'killall dhclient3' now edit the file /etc/resolv.conf and change the nameserver to 4.2.2.1
[03:12] <pfaftle> zcat: just completed another install, see what happens :S
[03:12] <ruscoekm> Re my sync question above, I also tried using /dev/ttyUSB1 rather than /dev/pilot (as described at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77387&highlight=palm+evolution ) but this made no difference.
[03:13] <zcat[1] > pfaftle: If you're using SATA, setting it up in bios to emulate plain ATA might solve the problem.
[03:13] <pfaftle> zcat: no sata
[03:13] <zcat[1] > raid?
[03:13] <pfaftle> nope
[03:13] <vook> yurimxpxman: dhclient and dhclient3 have a way of stay alive in the background and it really just causes problems (when using a different dns server).  Now, make a script using all of the commands you have typed starting with iwconfig wlan0 essid default.  The first line of the script should be '#!/bin/bash'
[03:13] <zcat[1] > hmmm.. no easy fixes today :(
[03:14] <pfaftle> :(
[03:14] <mardi> hi, i have a fairly fresh install of edgy and i don't have any sound, i've looked at alsamixer and all seems well, any help?
[03:14] <yurimxpxman> vook: one moment.. I'm still trying to edit the .conf file
[03:14] <vook> yurimxpxman: make the script executable with 'chmod 0700 script' and the move it to /usr/sbin with 'mv script /usr/sbin'.  Then, in the future, always enable your wireless using 'sudo /usr/sbin/script' (or whatever).
[03:15] <zcat[1] > mardi: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp .. It should hiss, or give you an error message.
[03:15] <mardi> zcat[1] , trying it now, thanks
[03:16] <foo> Khisanth: Ok, I don't know what a UUID. It's an edgy thing.
[03:16] <pfaftle> zcat: ok, just got same thing, before it does the whole /bin/sh thing, it says ALERT! /dev/hda1 does not exist. dropping to a shell
[03:16] <Khisanth> foo: man fstab :)
[03:16] <foo> Khisanth: eh, why is it needed? It sounds like it just complicates linux. And, well, we don't need any more of that.
[03:16] <mardi> zcat[1] , yes, i have hissing
[03:16] <zcat[1] > mardi: cool. problem solved :)
[03:17] <rubix_> hello I cannot get my graphics card drivers to work does anyone have any ideas (nvidia gf3ti200 agp (just switched from nvidia card and all work fine til i reboot, and ubuntu 6.10 edgy) I am in really basic x right now
[03:17] <yurimxpxman> what's the name of the gnome file explorer? I can't remember at the moment.. :?
[03:17] <rubix_> whats the command to reconfigure a driver?
[03:17] <Khisanth> foo: actually the reason for it is to solve the problem pfaftle seems to be having :)
[03:17] <pfaftle> zcat: ok, just got same thing, before it does the whole /bin/sh thing, it says ALERT! /dev/hda1 does not exist. dropping to a shell
[03:17] <userundefine> nautilus
[03:17] <yurimxpxman> ty
[03:18] <Khisanth> foo: are you using SATA drives?
[03:18] <gnix_oag> nautilus
[03:18] <rubix_> i can't even really use xchat or anything because i can't display it
[03:18] <foo> Khisanth: No
[03:18] <linopil> https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html#id2542844 FYI realplayer here has a bad link
[03:18] <avalon> Found what's probably the problem with my touchscreen.. but no clue how to fix it
[03:18] <zcat[1] > pfaftle: somewhere before that is your problem. The install CD is doing something that puts the target drive at hda1. But the installed kernel and initrd isn't doing the same thing.
[03:19] <yurimxpxman> vook: this dang thing doesn't seem to want to open gedit or nautilus so I can edit that file
[03:19] <rubix_> is it sudo dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg by any chance?
[03:19] <LaserLine> After i installed the nvidia drivers (via apt-get) and then enabled them my system freezes
[03:19] <pfaftle> zcat: would it make any difference if i used the 386 kernel?
[03:19] <mardi> zcat[1] , still a problem i think, when i try to play a .wav with aplay i get "ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:862:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[03:19] <mardi> aplay: main:547: audio open error: Device or resource busy
[03:19] <mardi> "
[03:20] <mardi> eek
[03:20] <avalon> A cat /dev/input has revealed that that event 1 is my keyboard, event 2 is my mouse, event0 doesn't respond. TS0, which I'm assuming should be my touchscreen is actually my mouse, or at least it seems because it only displays text when I move the mouse. What gives?
[03:20] <vook> yurimxpxman: just go to the terminal and type 'sudo bash'  then use nano to edit the file, or type 'echo nameserver 4.2.2.1 > /etc/resolv.conf'
[03:20] <zcat[1] > pfaftle: possibly a missing module. Possibly things getting loaded in a different order. You kinda need to track down what's different and make it 'not different'. That's the hard part :)
[03:20] <Khisanth> pfaftle: that seems slightly odd, if that is a SATA drive it should be /dev/sda1 ...
[03:20] <vook> yurimxpxman: it's doubtful that you need a search domain.
[03:20] <rubix_> how do you reconfigure your x server?
[03:20] <pfaftle> khisanth: nope ATA drive.
[03:21] <zcat[1] > mardi: ahh.. tricky.
[03:21] <yurimxpxman> vook: alright, I ran the echo command. Now what?
[03:21] <zcat[1] > pfaftle: This is a very weird problem to see on a plain ATA drive....
[03:21] <Khisanth> hrm I was adding an extra comma in your reply :)
[03:21] <vook> yurimxpxman: that should be it, try to ping a domain name.
[03:22] <pfaftle> khisanth: any idea on how to overcome it?
[03:22] <Khisanth> pfaftle: made sure the IDE/power is properly plugged in? does the drive show up in the bios?
[03:22] <vook> yurimxpxman: keep in mind that if this isn't your wifi access point, you may have to fuss with the location of the usb device to get the best signal
[03:22] <kitche> rubix_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:22] <pfaftle> khisanth: all is good in bios and power to hdd
[03:23] <zcat[1] > pfaftle: normally you'd only see this with sata or raid systems, where nonstandard modules get loaded. I'd check in BIOS and see if there are any options relating to SATA, and just mess with them until you get a settingthat boots :)
[03:23] <yurimxpxman> vook: well, I was able to ping google.com, but firefox still isn't loading web pages.. I'm gonna check the proxy settings
[03:23] <Khisanth> pfaftle: what were you doing before this started happening?
[03:23] <mardi> zcat[1] , is something else using the sound server maybe? is there a way i can restart it? i've tried doing /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart but it didn't help
[03:23] <kitche> yurimxpxman: try turning off ipv6 if you haven't done so already
[03:23] <vook> yurimxpxman: close firefox and reload it and try again.
[03:23] <kitche> !ipv6|yurimxpxman
[03:23] <ubotu> yurimxpxman: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[03:23] <Courage> who can help me? Ubuntu install from HD with a ISO files.
[03:23] <pfaftle> khisanth: just installed edgy, trying to boot it for first time
[03:23] <avalon> Alright, correct me if I'm wrong, but if I sudo cat a device, and use the device, I should see garbled junk, right?
[03:23] <vook> yurimxpxman: sometimes that works
[03:24] <zcat[1] > mardi: perhaps. I'll leave this one to someone more familiar with sound than me...
[03:24] <stepanstas> Is there anyone here who can tell me a way to edit menu.lst using sudo -l /boot/grub/menu.lst or something like that (i am really new at this)
[03:24] <mardi> zcat[1] , ahh ok, thanks anyways :)
[03:24] <affle> avalon, usually, I think.
[03:24] <zcat[1] > afk....
[03:25] <avalon> Because I tried that with everything I have, and it works on my keyboard and mouse, but I get nothing when I try to use the touchscreen
[03:25] <pfaftle> khisanth: just installed edgy, trying to boot it for first time
[03:25] <rukuartic> Hey there, I'm wondering how I can stop Xorg from timing out and going blank, making the user juggle the mouse to get it going again.
[03:26] <johoja> im having huge problems iwth ubuntu!
[03:26] <johoja> just happened today.
[03:26] <johoja> is their a way to check whichi packages were installed in an update
[03:26] <affle> avalon, well, the touchscreen driver module may not be loaded.
[03:26] <johoja> i want to try and roll back and see if that fixes it.
[03:26] <affle> avalon, there are several.
[03:26] <yurimxpxman> I disabled ipv6 and restarted FF but it still won't load google
[03:26] <avalon> I've tried pretty much every one of them and none of them work with my usb connection
[03:27] <linopil> amarok cant play smb URls
[03:27] <affle> avalon, Do you know for sure that your touchscreen is supported?
[03:27] <linopil> smb://pc1/MUSIC/MANU_CHAO_CLANDESTINO_224KBPS_S/BONGO_BONG.MP3 why ?
[03:27] <johoja> anyone ?
[03:27] <affle> avalon, Also, are you sure of the device connected to your touch screen?
[03:27] <stepanstas> is there a command in terminal similar to -l /boot/grub/menu.lst that can actualy edit menu.lst (make it not read only)
[03:27] <avalon> Not at all. I'm trying to bootleg a generic device if you will. I'm positive it's connected, and that the computer its connected to is good, and so is the cable
[03:28] <vook> yurimxpxman: hmm, well, if you are able to ping google, then the wifi is working.  The signal may be weak though ??  That or something could be blocking tcp packets from reaching you (ping is ICMP).
[03:28] <avalon> I've found a driver specifically built for dapper, but I get some weird xorg error when I try to use it
[03:28] <linopil> stepanstas, sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst   ? maybe ?
[03:28] <johoja> i get a softlockup cpu#0 on bootup , and i dont have a wireless card but it seems to be related to my netowrk card (
[03:28] <johoja> maybe a update did it, but im not sure how to see recently installed updates
[03:29] <johoja> is their a way to do that ?
[03:29] <zcat[1] > stepanstas: sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.list  should work (the problem isn't that it's read only, the problem is you don't own the file)
[03:29] <vook> yurimxpxman: make sure you don't have a firewall blocking incoming tcp.  Also, if this isn't your access point, keep in mind that the owner can set the device to offer out IP addresses but only service certain ones.
[03:29] <foo> Khisanth: Did that have something to do with it?
[03:29] <yurimxpxman> vook: When I try to access a page, it says "Connecting to www.google.com..." but never makes it past that. The wireless works on the laptop just fine. Could it have to anything to do with the proxy that came with my version of Ubuntu? (Christian Edition)
[03:29] <stepanstas> linopil: that worked, thanks
[03:29] <linopil> !flash
[03:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:29] <yurimxpxman> vook: this is my access point
[03:29] <Khisanth> foo: "that"?
[03:29] <avalon> Any idea affle
[03:29] <avalon> ?
[03:29] <foo> Khisanth: SATA..
[03:30] <affle> avalon, well, I would expect that you'd have more luck trying to get the driver working rather than going some generic route.
[03:30] <stepanstas> zcat[1] : is there a way that i could just edit all the read files without the editro
[03:30] <linopil> you most welcome
[03:30] <affle> avalon, this is a usb device, you say?
[03:30] <johoja> anyone...? :(
[03:30] <stepanstas> linopil: how do i save my changes?
[03:30] <Khisanth> foo: ignore that it was misdirected :)
[03:30] <foo> Khisanth: ohh
[03:30] <rukuartic> johoja: Well if you can get a terminall... I think you can. Hold up
[03:30] <affle> avalon, which device do you think it's connected to and what does the last few lines of the command dmesg say after you connect the device?
[03:31] <vook> yurimxpxman: ooh, yes, it could.  check the proxy settings in firefox.  tools > settings > advanced > network > settings
[03:31] <vook> yurimxpxman: oops, not tools
[03:31] <avalon> Well.. /dev/input/ts0 would make the most sense to me, I'll list dmesg as soon as I get it. BRB
[03:31] <fierce> Hey all.. this is gonna sound very stupid, but, I clicked an .ogg file, and its playing it now in KDE, but apparently in NO application.. no XMMS opened up or anything, nothing in the taskbar, and I can't stop the bloody thing from playing :D
[03:32] <yurimxpxman> vook: I set FF's proxy to direct connection to the internet. With this setting, could my proxy still affect FF or not?
[03:32] <vook> yurimxpxman: edit > preferences > advanced > network > settings
[03:32] <rukuartic> johoja: If you do "ls -lt /var/cache/apt/
[03:32] <rukuartic> johoja: Sorry
[03:32] <LoRez> fierce: lsof /dev/dsp or whatever your audio dev is.
[03:32] <affle> johoja, there is a log for it, just a sec.
[03:32] <rukuartic> johoja: If you do "ls -lt /var/cache/apt/archives" it should show the most recent packages sorted by date
[03:32] <zim> hi all
[03:32] <rukuartic> johoja: but affle's response is probably better
[03:32] <avalon> usb 1-2: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 7.
[03:32] <zcat[1] > LoRez: might not help if the player uses arts, only arts will have /dev/dsp open...
[03:33] <zim> just a quick Q what do i install to see mov wmv mp3 etc
[03:33] <zcat[1] > arts or esd..
[03:33] <fierce> no results
[03:33] <fierce> from that command
[03:33] <fierce> :(
[03:33] <affle> johoja, /var/log/dpkg.log /var/log/aptitude show package related actions
[03:33] <LoRez> zcat[1] : yeah, I know, but it's a start.
[03:33] <vook> yurimxpxman: I'm not sure honestly.  type 'telnet google.com 80'  If it let's you in, the problem is in firefox.
[03:33] <zcat[1] > sudo fuser -k /dev/dsp  tends to clear things up quite nicely :)
[03:33] <johoja> okay, its weird, it wont load up with one kernel 2.6.18, i think, but if i try with another one an oldoer one it works, but..the older ones have other roblmems like i cant get my sound to work on it eventhough its audigy and...my graphics driver wont install for some reason no idea hwats going on..
[03:33] <kurr> hey how do i move folders? i want to move a folder on my desktop to my /hdb5
[03:34] <fierce> zcat[1] : that didnt fix it!
[03:34] <fierce> the damn thing is still going, haha
[03:34] <zcat[1] > owww. that should kill off just about anything playing...
[03:34] <fierce> its still going full blast
[03:35] <yurimxpxman> vook: how long would that normally take? It says trying but I think it's frozen just like FF was
[03:35] <zcat[1] > bet it can't last a reboot though :)
[03:35] <rukuartic> kurr: hdb5 isn't actually a "folder" per se... its a symbolic reference to your 5th partition on your 1st hard drive
[03:35] <fierce> zcat[1] :Hahaha, ya, i bet it cant
[03:35] <affle> avalon, well, I'd poke around /dev/bus/usb and see how that matches the messages, ie. 1-2 or address 7.
[03:35] <fierce> okay i guess ill reboot
[03:35] <fierce> thanks anyways guys
[03:35] <rukuartic> kurr: What you can do is type "mount" to see where /dev/hda5 is mounted, and then put it in that folder.
[03:35] <stepanstas> zcat[1] : i used sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.list, to save changes, what do i do?
[03:35] <affle> johoja, I've seen bits of stuff about the very latest kernels having problems....
[03:35] <zim> is there a link to a howto to get movie and music formats working mp3 wmv mov mpeg................... etc
[03:35] <vook> yurimxpxman: should connect immediately.  yeah, if you have a proxy, I don't know what to do for you.  I'm not familiar with that breed of Ubuntu.
[03:35] <zcat[1] > stepanstas: ctrl-X and tell it yes
[03:36] <johoja> affle:  but i've been using htis one for a fedw months now without any problems
[03:36] <rukuartic> stepanstas: Whenever you see ^(some character) it means control+that character.
[03:36] <stepanstas> zcat[1] :thanks
[03:36] <zack> hey, does anybody know how to make ubuntu share a host name throughout the LAN?
[03:36] <yurimxpxman> vook: alright. I may download the regular version of Ubuntu when I have time. That must be the problem. Thanks :)
[03:36] <avalon> Hmm.. that makes no sense.. ls /dev/bus/usb
[03:36] <avalon> I get this
[03:36] <vook> yurimxpxman: you bet!
[03:36] <johoja> and the older ones arnet working well either...like im in2.6.17 right now, but my sounds not working etc..alsa wont start up and doesnt give an error
[03:36] <rukuartic> zack: how do you mean?
[03:36] <avalon> 001/ 002/ 003/ 004/ 005/
[03:36] <affle> johoja, but you recently upgraded packages, right? if one of those involved an update of your initrd files, it could mess things up.
[03:37] <zack> for example, I want to type 'somethinorother' instead of '192.168.1.x'
[03:37] <johoja> doenst look like ne thing signifact thoguh
[03:37] <rukuartic> zack: Oh! Just put that into your /etc/hosts file
[03:37] <rukuartic> zack: Just make sure to not erase the ones that are there... if you do it gets really nasty!
[03:37] <kurr> rukuartic: ok im going to try to move it to my media folder and then go from there, but i forgot the command.. super user? or something heh
[03:37] <zack> thanks man! i've tried this with fedora core 5 but it was just stupid :-S
[03:37] <affle> avalon, ok, those are some of the buses or sub-busses or maybe devices. Inside of one of those will be a device that should correspond to your touchscreen.
[03:38] <johoja> affle: http://pastebin.com/843541 those are the last couple doenst look like ne thing important though that woudl do this
[03:38] <affle> avalon, start catting if you can't figure out which one.
[03:38] <rukuartic> kurr: Probably "mv"... you might need to use "sudo" to move the files if you don't "own" the directory... "sudo mv file1 file2 file3 /some/directory"
[03:38] <sheri> does totem have wmv support
[03:38] <rukuartic> !wmv
[03:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:39] <rukuartic> there ya go sheri, read what ubotu said.
[03:39] <rukuartic> !botsnack
[03:39] <ubotu> Yum!
[03:39] <zack> @rukuartic - actually, i remember now why i had a problem - my IP addresses on the LAN are set by DHCP from my router, and i want it to stay that way... so how can i get the host to publish new changes?
[03:39] <affle> johoja, do you reboot regularly? 'cause if you haven't rebooted in several weeks, it could be any updated packages during that time period.
[03:39] <mewshi> i need help picking a good ftp client to use.  I only need to serve a few people, and tat's it
[03:39] <rukuartic> zack: I think you'd need to run a DNS server for that :P
[03:39] <johoja> affle: i do :)
[03:40] <rukuartic> mewshi: Client, or server?
[03:40] <johoja> affle: at least once a day
[03:40] <zcat[1] > mewshi: teach your clients to use scp or sftp ..
[03:40] <affle> johoja, hrm.
[03:40] <rukuartic> zcat[1] : I think he wanted a server.
[03:40] <chab> hey
[03:40] <mardi> thanks for the help, cya!
[03:40] <kurr> rukuartic: ok so i've moved this one folder to my /media, but i cant seem o find out how to move it to the hdb5 still
[03:40] <chab> anyone can tell me how to enable multicore support on edgy
[03:40] <zack> rukuartic: lol, i should have known that! Arrgggh... sooo, anywhere i can find a good guide on this?
[03:41] <zcat[1] > yeah.. but with only a few clients he should probably use scp rather than ftp anyhow.
[03:41] <johoja> affle: dmesg, says [17182833.148000]  eth0: Promiscuous mode enabled, not sure why...thats probably causing it.
[03:41] <rukuartic> kurr: Like I said, /dev/hdb5 isn't actually a directory like in windows....
[03:41] <affle> johoja, wait a sec. automatix could conceivably done something, especially if it downloaded new nvidia drivers.
[03:41] <rukuartic> zack: Heh, I don't know much about DNS... try asking around here.
[03:41] <zcat[1] > !automatix
[03:41] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[03:41] <biotrox> !mirroring
[03:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mirroring - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:41] <affle> johoja, er, that just means that your network card is listening to all packets, not just the ones addressed to your computer. It should have anything to do with anything.
[03:42] <PORDO> man, i just bought this plantronics headset off googlestore.com, and it even says google talk on it and has the logo (bizarrely, it even has the "beta" on the logo)...and it's not USB...i didn't even think to check.
[03:42] <mewshi> i need a server :\
[03:42] <mewshi> sorry about that .>.>.
[03:42] <johoja> ah ok
[03:42] <affle> johoja, er, I mean shouldn't, rather.
[03:42] <rukuartic> kurr: In Linux, you don't actually have hard drives, you have folders. For example... /home could be on hdb1, /media could be on hdb3, and everything else could be on hdb2.
[03:42] <biotrox> i want to do mirroring in ubuntu
[03:42] <rukuartic> mewshi: Try ProFTPd... there's a few others too.
[03:42] <bruenig> folders...directories
[03:43] <zcat[1] > biotrox: mirroring like raid1 or mirroring like rsync ?
[03:43] <trix> dumb q, i did ctrl+alt+f2 to go from kde to non-graphical console, and i'm not sure how to go back ;x
[03:43] <bruenig> trix, ctrl + alt + f7
[03:43] <mewshi> i just want something that's easy to set up, like the filezilla server :/
[03:43] <chab> what the hell they removed it from ubuntuguide
[03:43] <trix> bruenig: <3
[03:43] <kitche> trix: alt+f7
[03:43] <rukuartic> mewshi: ProFTPd's not TOO difficult... all its configuration files can be found in /etc
[03:44] <bruenig> trix, f1-6 are tty's, 7 is your graphical stuff
[03:44] <affle> johoja, yah, I'd definitely look at the automatix.
[03:44] <rukuartic> mewshi: If you need help though, there's always people in here :)
[03:44] <zack> ok, so here's the question: how do i set up a dns server on my ubuntu machine which will provide dns services for a network which receives dhcp from a router?
[03:44] <johoja> affle: i didnt run it though.
[03:44] <trix> yea, for some reason i thought it would be f1 =] 
[03:44] <kurr> rukuartic: k i got it to work thanks
[03:44] <zcat[1] > zack: sudo apt-get install bind9
[03:45] <affle> johoja, dunno then.
[03:45] <chab> !help
[03:45] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:45] <chab> !multicore
[03:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about multicore - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:45] <zack> @zcat: i heard that some people preferred djbdns?
[03:45] <affle> johoja, I don't know what it does upon installation. I don't use it personally.
[03:45] <zcat[1] > zack: why?!!
[03:45] <johoja> affle: it donest do net hing till u run it
[03:45] <johoja> hrm..
[03:46] <johoja> any idea why my sound would'nt be working ?
[03:46] <zack> zcat: they seemed to think it had better security and provided easier zone management
[03:46] <zack> though i think it doesn't matter too much
[03:46] <affle> johoja, have you looked at the post-inst and pre-inst and post-remove scripts?
[03:46] <zack> i'll try bind
[03:46] <e5_> motorola v3 tryintg to connect can see it in device list but no connection by softeare
[03:46] <zcat[1] > haha, no idea. I've only ever used bind
[03:46] <johoja> well actually
[03:46] <johoja> automatix i dindt install
[03:46] <johoja> till after all this happened
[03:46] <affle> zack, I use powerdns. I like it. But that's just me. MyDNS has a strong following.
[03:47] <johoja> i got into terminal , and did a sudo apt-update/upgrade hoping i had a common problema nd af ix would be out
[03:47] <johoja> and only automatix installed so no way it caused it.
[03:47] <rukuartic> affle: What exactly can you do with a DNS server?
[03:47] <zcat[1] > default bind9 config is I think a fairly standard caching server.. you can go ahead and add to it if you want
[03:47] <zack> affle: ah well, bind is already installed, i may as well see how it works
[03:48] <affle> rukuartic, host your own domain, manage your own mx records, manage subdomains easily, i.e.: foo.bar.this.is.my.host.com
[03:48] <zcat[1] > You'll have to reconfigure your dhcp server to tell the clients about it too...
[03:48] <zack> zcat: the one on my router?
[03:48] <johoja> gonna reboot
[03:48] <zcat[1] > yeah, that one.
[03:48] <bert_> hey all, Should Ubuntu come with the 3c589 module?
[03:48] <rukuartic> affle: Like I could host my own .com website?
[03:48] <rukuartic> affle: Without registering the .com?
[03:49] <zcat[1] > rukuartic: no.
[03:49] <affle> rukuartic, er, yah, but only if other people used you as their DNS server, which most don't, so not really.
[03:49] <rukuartic> rats. Well what coudl I do?
[03:49] <rukuartic> lol I figured... submit to opendns?
[03:49] <affle> rukuartic, manage subdomains and mx records
[03:49] <foo> I am trying to install ati driver on ubuntu edgy. I did this - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI. But, it's not working.fglrxinfo |grep -i radeon returns nothing. Any ideas?
[03:49] <zack> zcat: the dynamic domain name system on my router? it's asking for a dyndns server, but the Ip is prone to change :-S
[03:49] <zcat[1] > rukuartic: but you can set up hostnames like 'foo.mynetwork' and use them within your network
[03:50] <rukuartic> zcat[1] : Aww but thats only in my network. Now what if I did go and register a domain?
[03:50] <PORDO> i'm trying to get the mic input working on my plantronics headset (not usb).  i've turned the mic on in alsamixer but i don't think it's actually working.
[03:50] <PORDO> what's a good tool to test it?
[03:50] <zcat[1] > rukuartic: If you register a domain, they'll want nameservers.
[03:50] <PORDO> maybe something that lights up to show the volume as i speak...
[03:50] <affle> rukuartic, then you could set up dns records for foo.mydomain.com and bar.mydomain.com Nice if you want to set up host names for members of your family or departments of your company, etc.
[03:51] <rukuartic> affle: Aha.
[03:51] <Lunar_Lamp> zack, you need to register at dyndns - then your router will send your ip to your dyndns account on their website - and they will act as a dns server that will link your chosen dyndns url to your ip.
[03:51] <misterj> hey there... I'm using Dapper and I've installed wuftpd so that I can remotely connect via ftp, and when I check services it's enabled, but any attempt to connect (even from a local terminal) is refused. Any one know what I'm doing wrong?
[03:51] <rukuartic> zack, Lunar_Lamp I like no-ip
[03:51] <zim> hey all is there a howto to install restricted formats ie: mov wmv etc
[03:51] <bert_> hey all, Should Ubuntu come with the 3c589 module? I am having problems getting a PCMCIA nic to pickup an IP
[03:51] <zcat[1] > misterj: yeah. Firest mistake was installing wu-anything.
[03:51] <rukuartic> !restrictedformats > zim
[03:51] <rukuartic> !wmv >zim
[03:52] <Pie-rate> I have a game that screws up the gamma when it crashes, how could i reset the desktop gamma to normal? right now i have to start the game and close it to reset that
[03:52] <zim> ty
[03:52] <rukuartic> Oh sorry zim, didn't mean to messague you twice.
[03:52] <zim> np
[03:52] <zim> ty
[03:52] <zack> lunar_lamp: all i want is to publish host names for several machines in my LAN, not outside...
[03:52] <misterj> zcat: Well, I also tried proftpd... there's a suggestion on the ftpd package to use one of those.
[03:52] <zack> plus i'm behind a private IP address, no public IP for me :(
[03:52] <misterj> (proftpd does the same)
[03:52] <rukuartic> zack: Not if you portforward!
[03:52] <bert_> zack: what about using your hosts file?
[03:53] <affle> bert_, It should
[03:53] <zack> again, my router uses DHCP and i want to keep it that way
[03:53] <zcat[1] > misterj: I'd suggest installing ssh server (apt-get install ssh) and using scp or sftp on the clients (scp is already installed in most distros, use WinSCP if they're windows)
[03:53] <bert_> affle: crap, any idea why that module wouldn't be installed? and is there anyway I can install it without a network connection? :)
[03:53] <Lunar_Lamp> zack, I want to do the exact same thing as you!
[03:53] <zack> though, would it be better to turn my linux machine into a dhcp router? though that opens up a whole new can of worms for me with the second virtual lan i have...
[03:54] <rukuartic> zack: If you want a more "permanantly" accessable computer, You can use DHCP AND statics... I have my server set to static, but the rest uses dhcp
[03:54] <affle> bert_, What does it say when you try to load the module?
[03:54] <zcat[1] > misterj: ftp is inherently insecure, and software from wu is notorious for having security issues.
[03:54] <bert_> affle: Module not found or something close
[03:54] <affle> bert_, er, you mean install Ubuntu? or the driver?
[03:54] <bert_> affle: the driver sorry
[03:54] <darkmatter> coz_,http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/19664221/?qo=6&q=heylove&qh=boost%3Apopular+age_sigma%3A24h+age_scale%3A5 and http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/44085310/?qo=39&q=heylove&qh=boost%3Apopular+age_sigma%3A24h+age_scale%3A5 and http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/13819141/?qo=48&q=heylove&qh=boost%3Apopular+age_sigma%3A24h+age_scale%3A5
[03:54] <affle> bert_, the driver should be called: 3c589_cs
[03:54] <zack> rukuartic: right, that sounds sorta ok to me
[03:55] <affle> bert_, what happens when you do a "sudo modprobe 3c589_cs"?
[03:55] <misterj> hey ZCat, I do need to connect from a windows machine and for the particular work I'm doing I really need to use the Wndows Explorer GUIunfortunately so I'm stuck with regular FTP.
[03:55] <bert_> affle: So should I then do a modprobe 3c589_cs?
[03:55] <rukuartic> zack: heh its pretty great! you can set that up in /etc/network or something
[03:55] <bert_> affle: ah :)
[03:55] <affle> bert_, basically.
[03:55] <bert_> affle: let me get the laptop and give that one a try
[03:55] <zack> but i have a hard drive which is connected by the network only and it publishes its name anyway!
[03:55] <rukuartic> zack: Yeah, /etc/network/interfaces
[03:55] <affle> bert_, of course, this should be autodetected and loaded. You may have problems with your pcmcia setup.
[03:55] <zcat[1] > misterj: damn. OK. I'd still avoid wuftpd anyhow...
[03:56] <tom_> hey guys i've got a bunch of images, in all sorts of wierd subdirectories, anyone kknow a way to move them all into one directory?
[03:56] <rance> I need some help with a sound card detection problem, I HAVE read the standard ubuntu sound help pages that the ubot spits out, but no avail.  I have read that there is a bug in the alsa module that improperly detects the features of the sound card, but for the record the right module IS loaded, can someone give me a hand, or at least a more informative pointer than the standard sound helps, cause they dont help any more
[03:56] <rukuartic> misterj: You can run openssh-server and install "WinSCP" which lets you do secure FTP (sftp) with a gui
[03:56] <zcat[1] > misterj: people need to upload stuff or just grab files?
[03:56] <compilerwriter2> shell script tom_
[03:57] <affle> misterj, filezilla is also a nice ssh supporting wingui.
[03:57] <bert_> affle: The card is detected fine but it won't grap and IP from my DHCP server nor will it ping out when I specify an IP
[03:57] <affle> bert_, do you have a link light?
[03:57] <zack> the thing is, when i look at my DHCP Clients in DD-WRT (I have a linksys WRT54GL), the hard drive has a host name, and so does the windows computer! but my computer simply doesn't
[03:57] <bert_> affle: yep, and the nic works in another computer
[03:57] <affle> bert_, And if you unplug and re-plug the cable, does the "dmesg" command make mention of this?
[03:57] <zack> it can't be THAT hard to set up
[03:58] <affle> bert_, and you know that the IP is a valid one?
[03:58] <affle> bert_, one that the DHCP server would allocate?
[03:58] <misterj> zcat: I need to do some work myself that involves somewhat complex file movements... I have an idea I'm gonna try and I'll be back.
[03:58] <rukuartic> bert_: Try this "sudo dhclient <interface name>"
[03:58] <syte> hi
[03:58] <stepanstas> someone resently helped me with this command, can you tell me what the word starting with n is?  sudo n... /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:58] <zack> rukuartic: thanks, btw, i'll try a single static IP though if i can't figure this one out
[03:58] <rance> zack: the dhcp client is not set up by defaut to send a hostname, you need to set it up to do that, as some dhcp servers REQUIRE a host name first, Windoze always sends the hostname with the dhcp address
[03:58] <rukuartic> stepanstas: "nano"
[03:58] <affle> stepanstas, nano
[03:58] <rukuartic> zack: Its not too difficult. Give me a yell if you need help.
[03:58] <bert_> affle: yes the IP is valid, I'll have to check the dmesg
[03:59] <stepanstas> rukuartic: thanks a lot, i can never remember
[03:59] <rukuartic> zack: I could send you my /etc/network/interfaces if you want
[03:59] <rukuartic> stepanstas: No problem :3
[03:59] <zack> cool, ta
[03:59] <bert_> affle: the laptop is just coming up now
[03:59] <zack> um, how?
[03:59] <zack> ...nvm :)
[03:59] <zcat[1] > misterj: seriously, if it's on the open internet I would look at scp/WinSCP. If it's on a LAN samba might be the easiest option.
[04:00] <zack> rance: how do i set it up so that this machine sends a hostname with its IP?
[04:00] <rukuartic> zcat[1] : Bah I don't think he's worrying about being attacked.
[04:00] <syte> could someone please recommend a good book for linux commands?
[04:00] <timo901> can any one shed some light as to whats the matter with my keyboard
[04:01] <rukuartic> syte: "info coreutils"
[04:01] <zcat[1] > rukuartic: nobody ever does... they just worry when the machine suddenly has a 12.0 load average and is spewing spam and DDoS everywhere...
[04:01] <syte> ty rukuartic
[04:01] <rukuartic> zcat[1] : Does it really happen that quickly?
[04:01] <affle> syte,  I liked the "Rute User's Guide"
[04:01] <bert_> affle: I get the following messages after Listenin o LPF/eth1/<hex address>
[04:01] <zack> thanks rukuartic
[04:01] <syte> affle: thx man
[04:01] <rukuartic> syte: "man <command>" will give you a comprehensive guide to any command you want to read up on.
[04:01] <stickyicky> how do i run 'df' without all the dummy filesystems?
[04:01] <rance> zach: you need to edit your dhclient.conf, from a terminal read "man dhclient.conf" and then do a "sudo nano /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf" and restart networking (sometimes the easiest way to do that is to reboot)
[04:02] <bert_> affle: DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 pot 67 interval 3
[04:02] <zcat[1] > no, but it happens. I've had servers 0wned through wuftpd exploits. It's a pain to clean up after
[04:02] <brunosilva> hi all!
[04:02] <syte> yes, but i rather just have a manual handy. I find that easier at times
[04:02] <bert_> affle: that line continues a few times with different intervals and then says No DHCPOffers
[04:02] <rcrook> df -t ext3
[04:02] <stickyicky> tks@!
[04:02] <rukuartic> zcat[1] : How quickly? Were people just portscanning
[04:02] <affle> bert_, yup, definitely not getting a response from the dhcp server.
[04:03] <zcat[1] > people are _always_ portscanning.
[04:03] <MrSprout> How do I uninstall the official nvidia drivers via terminal?
[04:03] <rukuartic> MrSprout: "sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx"
[04:03] <rukuartic> MrSprout: Or the name of the package you installed... if you forgot try "dpkg -l | grep nvidia"
[04:03] <rcrook> apt-get remove nvidia
[04:03] <affle> bert_, Wait, why eth1? do you have two cards? is there a built-in ethernet card? what does "ifconfig" show?
[04:03] <bert_> affle: It's got to be something to do with the laptop cause my desktop just got an IP from the same DHCP server 10 mins ago :)
[04:03] <MrSprout> and that will remove them completely?
[04:04] <affle> bert_, er "ifconfig -a"
[04:04] <MrSprout> so when I start up xserver wont fail to load.
[04:04] <zack> thanks rance! i think this one is the ticket
[04:04] <rukuartic> MrSprout: If you're having with Xorg crashing... try "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and changing things from there.
[04:04] <bert_> affle: just the one card, I get an entry for eth1, irda0 and lo
[04:04] <affle> bert_, in other words, where's eth0?
[04:04] <rance> zach, np, glad to help
[04:04] <affle> bert_, hmm.
[04:04] <bert_> affle: hmm good question
[04:05] <MrSprout> rukuartic
[04:05] <MrSprout> i'd have no idea what to change
[04:05] <rukuartic> MrSprout: When it asks you which driver, I think you could use "vesa"
[04:05] <rukuartic> MrSprout: The default settings are there, I'm pretty sure you could just press "enter" until you're done.
[04:05] <affle> bert_, do a "sudo tcpdump -n -i eth0" and see if you see packets going by.
[04:06] <MrSprout> ok
[04:06] <MrSprout> basically
[04:06] <MrSprout> im running a core2duo processor
[04:06] <affle> bert_, If so, you know the card is working and there's probably some other weird issue. Oh, when you set the IP manually, how did you test to see if it was working? Did you set a DNS server in /etc/resolve.conf and did you set up a default route?
[04:06] <affle> bert_, Oh, sorry, eth1 :  do a "sudo tcpdump -n -i eth1" and see if you see packets going by.
[04:07] <MrSprout> and when I install the nvidia drivers it says it has no precompiled kernels for my processor
[04:07] <MrSprout> so it tries to compile one on the spot
[04:07] <bert_> affle: I got this message back, tcpdump: ioctl: No such device
[04:07] <affle> bert_, yah, sorry, use eth1.
[04:07] <MrSprout> and guess xorg.conf directories
[04:07] <MrSprout> which breaks the whole thing
[04:07] <rukuartic> MrSprout: Ouch.
[04:07] <rukuartic> MrSprout: Try this... "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[04:08] <MrSprout> ok
[04:08] <MrSprout> thanks
[04:09] <bert_> affle: :) alright tcpdump: WARNING: eht1 no IPv4 address assigned then goes on about listening to eth1 22:07:55.000498 IP 0.0.0.0.68> 255.255.255.255.67: BOOTP/DHCP
[04:10] <affle> bert_, anything other than 0.0.0.0.68 packets? That's your card trying to contact the DHCP server.
[04:10] <luisgd> once in man grub, how can I make grub boot into windows automatically, and do so in a shorter amount of time?
[04:10] <affle> bert_, did you set up routes and dns servers when you tested with a static IP before? (dns isn't required of course unless you were trying to access a hostname)
[04:10] <Pelo> can someone give me the cli for mounting my ntfs drive  ( sda1)  in /mnt using ntfs-3g , and haveing it automount ?
[04:11] <zcat[1] > !ntfs | pelo
[04:11] <ubotu> pelo: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[04:11] <bert_> affle: the line finishes with, Requests from 00:22:08:11.000688, length: 300 (that was after the BOOTP/DHCP part
[04:11] <aa> bert_  8 8 6
[04:11] <Pelo> thanks zcat[1] 
[04:12] <Pelo> !fuse
[04:12] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[04:12] <Cinnabelle> So... Despite several attempts, I can't install newer versions of Ubuntu... So I come to ask... Are there any reasonable alternatives? X)
[04:12] <affle> bert_, dunno 'bout that
[04:12] <zcat[1] > not sure if that covers 3g though.. it should be similar anyhow
[04:12] <bert_> affle: DNS servers for sure, routes I'm not sure of
[04:12] <bert_> aa: sorry?
[04:12] <affle> bert_, how did you test to see if the static ip worked?
[04:12] <cybyy> someone here knows portuguese?
[04:12] <luisgd> once in man grub, how can I make grub boot into windows automatically, and do so in a shorter amount of time?
[04:13] <zcat[1] > luisgd: change 'default' and 'timeout' I think
[04:13] <Pelo> Cinnabelle,  there is an alternate install cd that is CLI you might want to give that a try
[04:13] <bert_> affle: I set the IP, subnet mask, Gateway and then tried to ping any active machine on my network and also tried to ping the laptop from a network machine
[04:13] <luisgd> thank you
[04:13] <neurotech> I have a 250GB SATA HDD here and it's currently NTFS. I want to use it as mp3/dvd storage - what should I format it as?
[04:13] <zcat[1] > neurotech: ext3 probably.. or reiserfs ?
[04:14] <neurotech> reiserfs?
[04:14] <luisgd> how do I make it change a setting though
[04:14] <luisgd> it won't let me type anything
[04:14] <affle> bert_, Hmm, doesn't sound good. Only other thing I can think of is to make sure that whatever the cable is plugged into is on the correct subnet. other than that, that card may not be well enough supported. dunno.
[04:14] <neurotech> !reiserfs
[04:14] <ubotu> reiserfs is a journalling file system, in benchmarks it outperforms many others on I/O operations, but they take notoriously long to mount.
[04:14] <affle> bert_, good luck, I gotta go.
[04:14] <bert_> affle: thanks for the help
[04:15] <affle> bert_, np.
[04:16] <luisgd> how do I change the settings in man grub?
[04:16] <zcat[1] > Probably best to stick to ext3 for now...
[04:16] <Megaqwerty> what is the format with the highest compression? I don't care how long it takes to compress the files.
[04:16] <neurotech> zcat[1] , should it be primary or extended partition?
[04:16] <Megaqwerty> (i.e. zip, bz2, gz, rar, etc.)
[04:16] <zcat[1] > I make everything primary...
[04:17] <zcat[1] > I think bz2 is usually best
[04:17] <Megaqwerty> zcat[1] : usually?
[04:17] <zcat[1] > best depends to some extent on the type of data
[04:17] <Megaqwerty> zcat[1] : I'm intrigued...what do you mean?
[04:18] <Megaqwerty> why would they differ?
[04:19] <bert_> anyone else have any ideas on getting my PCMCIA nic working?
[04:19] <zcat[1] > well; completely random data won't compress. Ever.  Some are optimised for certain types of data (like text or audio) and might work less well with mistures of different filetypes
[04:19] <luisgd> so, can someone help me with my grub problems? I need to make it boot to windows automatically
[04:19] <Megaqwerty> zcat[1] : if I'm compressing video, what archive type should I use?
[04:20] <trinkolade> luisgd, paste your grub.conf
[04:20] <zcat[1] > what kinds of video? divx ?
[04:20] <luisgd> where is that?
[04:20] <trinkolade> luisgd, usually in /boot/grub
[04:21] <Megaqwerty> zcat[1] : all types, .swf, .wmv, .mov, .flv, .avi
[04:21] <luisgd> it's not there
[04:21] <mikerobi> Are usb dvd burners as well suported as IDE burners?
[04:22] <Megaqwerty> luisgd: in the terminal type "locate grub.conf" (without the quotes)
[04:22] <MrSprout> Whoever it was helping me before, you're a lifesaver
[04:22] <Cinnabelle> Pelo: I've tried with both the normal CD and the Alternative CD, no dice :(
[04:22] <zcat[1] > Megaqwerty: best thing to do, take a sypical file and try everything on it. You'll probably find most end up being about the same.
[04:22] <mikerobi> MrSprout: It wasn't me but, I'll take credit anyway
[04:22] <zcat[1] > *typical
[04:22] <Megaqwerty> zcat[1] : okay, thanks
[04:22] <MrSprout> lol
[04:22] <MrSprout> Can someone help me install nvidia drivers that wont screw up my system?
[04:23] <luisgd> it doesn't do anything
[04:23] <mikerobi> MrSprout: unless you have a good reason, don't bother
[04:23] <MrSprout> I do have a good reason
[04:23] <trinkolade> luisgd, it might take a while. What does it do?
[04:23] <luisgd> nothing
[04:23] <MrSprout> I'm on a 1680x1050 monitor running at 1024x768
[04:24] <mikerobi> ouch
[04:24] <MrSprout> Yeah...
[04:24] <trinkolade> luisgd, what do you see as last line in your terminal?
[04:24] <MrSprout> I cant get it higher without drivers.
[04:24] <luisgd> luis@luis-desktop:`$
[04:24] <mikerobi> MrSprout: you can trade monitors wiht me
[04:24] <zcat[1] > So it comes down to what's fastest or what's most well supported. RAR works well but is closed source and not available on all platforms. bz2 works well, is OSS and ported to everything.. I'd pick bz2.
[04:24] <kitche> MrSprout: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-enable then restart X and you should be good to go
[04:24] <Cpudan80> Hey everyone
[04:24] <screechingcat> I cant log into my gnome session
[04:24] <Cpudan80> got an error when running KDE apps
[04:24] <Cpudan80> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed
[04:24] <MrSprout> kitche
[04:24] <trinkolade> luisgd, try "sudo locate grub.conf"
[04:24] <MrSprout> are you sure it wont ruin my kernel
[04:24] <Cpudan80> That error also comes up when running kdeinit
[04:24] <MrSprout> like the others?
[04:25] <luisgd> it did the same thing
[04:25] <kitche> MrSprout: umm it won't ruin your kernel at all since it's just a module and if you use the ubuntu one it will work
[04:25] <trinkolade> luisgd, and what does "sudo ls /boot/grub/" show?
[04:26] <alexander_> hey all, i am new to ubuntu and i got a problem: my Internet in FireFox is dead slow...
[04:26] <alexander_> any thoughts?
[04:26] <MrSprout> ok
[04:26] <Cpudan80> So does anyone have any ideas about that error?
[04:26] <MrSprout> and kitche, it will work on a 7600gt?
[04:26] <screechingcat> alexander_: there are some tweaks you can do
[04:26] <bert_> does anyone know why when I do a dmesg the last two lines tell me that device eth1 entered promiscuous mode and then device eth1 left promiscuous mode?
[04:26] <alexander_> screechingcat, like what?
[04:27] <screechingcat> alexander_: i dont know offhand. search in www.ubuntuforums.org
[04:27] <zcat[1] > bert_: you used etherial or similar?
[04:27] <luisgd> default        fat_stage1_5  minix_stage1_5     stage2
[04:27] <luisgd> device.map     jfs_stage1_5  reiserfs_stage1_5  xfs_stage1_5
[04:27] <luisgd> e2fs_stage1_5  menu.lst      stage1
[04:27] <alexander_> screechingcat, ty, ill take a look
[04:27] <kitche> MrSpprout it should, if it doesn't you can always get the newest driver from nvidia
[04:27] <bert_> zcat[1] : sorry you lost me
[04:27] <MrSprout> yeah.. which broke my system
[04:27] <MrSprout> grumble grumble
[04:27] <MrSprout> brb
[04:27] <zcat[1] > bert_: You ran some 'packet sniffing' program recently?
[04:27] <MrSprout> and thanks kitche
[04:27] <trinkolade> luisgd, ah, okay, okay. There's no grub.conf, right? Did you do anything with it?
[04:27] <luisgd> nope
[04:28] <luisgd> I actually just installed ubuntu
[04:28] <_Spire_> isn't menu.lst the same as grub.conf?
[04:28] <linopil> intel integrated graphics controller howto install firefox explodes everytime I come to flash site
[04:28] <bert_> zcat[1] : nope I haven't run anything as I have never gotten the network to function yet on the laptop
[04:29] <trinkolade> luisgd, let me see, one moment
[04:29] <linopil> _Spire_, sure
[04:29] <_Spire_> bert_: what's the problem (I just got here)
[04:29] <bert_> zcat[1] : well I ran tcpdump
[04:29] <zcat[1] > Ahh, that would be it.
[04:29] <linopil> symlink
[04:29] <bert_> _Spire: my nic will not see my network in any fashion, Static IP or DHCP
[04:29] <fromvega> hello
[04:29] <zcat[1] > bert_: do the lights light up?
[04:30] <bert_> zcat[1] : The one light is lit
[04:30] <trinkolade> luisgd, there should be a menu.lst in /boot/grub/
[04:30] <MrSprout> kitche, these drivers are labelled -386
[04:30] <luisgd> there is
[04:30] <luisgd> do you want me to paste that here?
[04:30] <_Spire_> bert_: what's the output of dhclient3?
[04:30] <MrSprout> when I'm using a 686 processor
[04:30] <MrSprout> core 2 duo
[04:30] <fromvega> I have installed Ubuntu Server 6.10 and now I want to install ubuntu-desktop. Can I install it from my Ubuntu Desktop 6.10 CD instead of downloading it from a repository in the internet?
[04:30] <MrSprout> i'm not gonna lose dual core support again am I?
[04:30] <kitche> MrSprout: i386 is i686 same thing really
[04:30] <trinkolade> luisgd, not here. Use a paste service
[04:31] <trinkolade> !paste
[04:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:31] <zcat[1] > bert_: eth1 is curious.. what's eth0 ?
[04:31] <_Spire_> fromvega: just add your cdrom as a repository
[04:31] <mikerobi> Are USB dvd burners as well supported as IDE burners?
[04:31] <trinkolade> luisgd, did you see?
[04:31] <_Spire_> mikerobi: should  be
[04:31] <bert_> zcat[1] : Your guess is as good as mine
[04:31] <fromvega> _Spire_: and could you tell me how do I do that?
[04:32] <luisgd> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38463/
[04:32] <zcat[1] > bert_: try bringing it up perhaps? sudo ifup eth0 ; sudo dhclient
[04:32] <_Spire_> fromvega: that's the part I don't know about... you should be able to copy and paste the relevant lines from a default sources.list, though
[04:32] <bert_> _Spire: I get DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 8
[04:32] <_Spire_> bert_: anything else?
[04:33] <_Spire_> bert_: and does it just keep doing that over and over and over?
[04:33] <mikerobi> _Spire_: Should be? As in almost all USB burners work, or should be as in most.  I have never encountered an IDE burner that doesn't work in linux
[04:33] <Faintofhearts> Ok, I was attempting to get my computer to run Quake 3 recently, and in order to do that I was messing around with some visual settings with the help of a friend. Now, after a while of trying various things (Which he said should have worked, but didn't so we blamed it on the fact that he uses a different distro) I decided to give up. However, now when I watch videos with Mplayer the visual isn't as good as it wa
[04:33] <Faintofhearts> s before. Anyone have any idea what I may have done?
[04:33] <fromvega> _Spire_: ok, I'll google that. But are you sure that it will find the right package in the cdrom?
[04:33] <trinkolade> luisgd, change the defaultentry at the very beginning to 4
[04:33] <zcat[1] > bert_: dmesg | grep eth   does it show more than one device there?
[04:33] <trinkolade> luisgd, it's in line 14
[04:34] <_Spire_> fromvega: it should... from my experiences in Debian
[04:34] <pkh> I'm trying to run my screen at rull resolution (2048x1536@80hz) -- but it only runs at 50hz.  Is there a way to force it up to the higher frequency?
[04:34] <bert_> _Spire: That continues on for a while then says there are no DHCP offers
[04:34] <_Spire_> mikerobi: 99% of the usb cd drives should work, in my experience
[04:34] <fromvega> _Spire_: I've found it: apt-cdrom add :D
[04:34] <_Spire_> mikerobi: 99% of the usb cd drives should work, in my experience
[04:35] <_Spire_> oops, didn't mean to do that twice
[04:35] <MrSprout> kitche, It worked!
[04:35] <Faintofhearts> Ok, I was attempting to get my computer to run Quake 3 recently, and in order to do that I was messing around with some visual settings with the help of a friend. Now, after a while of trying various things (Which he said should have worked, but didn't so we blamed it on the fact that he uses a different distro) I decided to give up. However, now when I watch videos with Mplayer the visual isn't as good as it wa
[04:35] <Faintofhearts> s before. Anyone have any idea what I may have done?
[04:35] <bert_> zcat[1] : sudo ifup eth0 gave this messge SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
[04:35] <orestyle9> How do I get my two start bars back on my desktop?  I am using kubuntu...
[04:35] <zcat[1] > bert_: while you were running dhclient, did the light(s) on the card blink at all?
[04:35] <srothroc> Anyone mind a horribly newbie-ish question?
[04:35] <_Spire_> srothroc: not at all :)
[04:35] <srothroc> What's the difference between KDE and GNOME, for someone just starting with Ubuntu?
[04:36] <rance> srothroc: nope, it might be one we can answer
[04:36] <luisgd> thank you so much!
[04:36] <neurotech> um i just pressed Ctrl+Alt+- and now i'm running a super low screeen res :S how do I get back to 1920x1200?
[04:36] <zcat[1] > srothroc: 'very little' - they both do the same thing, basically. :)
[04:36] <MrSprout> what's the glx enable command?
[04:36] <trinkolade> luisgd, no problem
[04:36] <neuratix> ctrl+alt++
[04:36] <rOss> is there a fawn bug page?
[04:36] <_Spire_> srothroc: there are a few main differences
[04:37] <neuratix> neurotech: ctrl+alt++
[04:37] <MrSprout> trinkolade, you seem fairly knowledgeable.
[04:37] <MrSprout> umm
[04:37] <neurotech> ta
[04:37] <Faintofhearts> So no one can help me...
[04:37] <MrSprout> how do I enable glx?
[04:37] <rance> srothroc: the visual difference is that kde LOOKS more like windows and it seems to be easier to transition to linux from windows if you start with KDE, but thats my opinion, and you are entitled to it ;)
[04:37] <bert_> zcat[1] : uh oh, eth0 shows up as my 3com card, with in io, irq and hw_addr addies. then eth1: flipped to 10base T then eth1: interrupt(s) dropped then two lines about promiscuous mode again
[04:37] <_Spire_> srothroc: gnome is more simplicity oriented and KDE is more windows like
[04:37] <srothroc> Hmm.
[04:37] <srothroc> That was a not-so-subtle dig at Windows, eh? :P
[04:37] <kitche> MrSprout: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and make sure that glx has a star next to it when it configuring Xorg modules
[04:37] <neuratix> imho kde gives me a bit too "heavy feeling"
[04:38] <_Spire_> srothroc: if you want to get techinical, gnome uses the gtk toolkit and kde uses qt (generally)
[04:38] <screechingcat> HELP! im not able to log into my GNOME session
[04:38] <rOss> i have looked high and low on the wiki on how to fix my error new install of fawn 2 broken packages
[04:38] <_Spire_> srothroc: qt is a bit "heavier" than gtk, if you ask me
[04:38] <bert_> zcat[1] : So it looks like my nic is sitting on eth0 and eth1 at the same time
[04:38] <mikerobi> screechingcat: hit the capslock
[04:38] <zcat[1] > bert_: I have a funny feeling eth0 is the one you want and eth1 is something else like a badly supported wifi chipset...
[04:38] <rance> srothroc: fact is that the foundations of gnome are closer to the unix heritage of a bunch of programs working together each doing one small task and doing it well, much less monolithic in nature, but harder to understand for a newbie
[04:38] <screechingcat> mikerobi: dude. im not that stupid. its some error with gdm.
[04:39] <screechingcat> mikerobi: im using the failsafe gnome session now
[04:39] <srothroc> Hmm, you say that KDE looks more like Windows -- but aren't both KDE and Gnome reskinnable?
[04:39] <orestyle9> How do I get my two start bars back on my desktop?  I am using kubuntu...
[04:39] <mikerobi> screechingcat: delete everything in /tmp
[04:39] <_Spire_> srothroc: to the max
[04:39] <bert_> zcat[1] : but in the GUI network tool the nic is showing up as eth1.
[04:39] <zcat[1] > KDE looks more like OSX to me :)
[04:39] <rance> srothroc: yes they are, but I'm talking about the default starting place
[04:39] <srothroc> Ahh.
[04:39] <Faintofhearts> Anyone here good at configuring for best visuals? I need to get everything running smoothly.
[04:39] <trinkolade> MrSprout, you want to enable direct rendering?
[04:39] <_Spire_> srothroc: you can make KDE/Gnome look like OS9, Mac OS X, or practically anything you want?
[04:39] <rance> once you learn linux, you can pretty much make it do whatever you want
[04:40] <MrSprout> trinkolade, I dunno.
[04:40] <srothroc> No performance differences, either?
[04:40] <bert_> zcat[1] : Now I can't ifdown eth1 or eth0
[04:40] <MrSprout> I need to change my screen resolution
[04:40] <MrSprout> higher
[04:40] <_Spire_> srothroc: not really, unless it's a really slow computer
[04:40] <screechingcat> mikerobi: right deleted them
[04:40] <zcat[1] > I made my KDE look like OSX, I could never figure out how to get the same look in gnome...
[04:40] <neuratix> MrSprout: install your graphics driver correctly and enable it :)
[04:40] <screechingcat> mikerobi: now what ?
[04:40] <MrSprout> the driver's installed but glx isn't enabled.
[04:40] <mikerobi> screechingcat: try loging in again
[04:40] <_Spire_> srothroc: on a really slow computer, gnome will give you a bit more performance
[04:40] <screechingcat> mikerobi: right
[04:40] <orestyle9> I am missing both my upper and lower panel on my desktop.  Somehow I am not able to get them back, and the panel option does not work.  Any ideas?
[04:40] <rance> srothroc: sometimes, there are performance differences, but it depends on equipment
[04:40] <_Spire_> srothroc: but if it's a really slow computer, you should try an alternative like the lightweight XFCE
[04:40] <zcat[1] > kde tends to be more configurable, gnome is slightly simpler I think... but more things just work.
[04:41] <neuratix> MrSprout: if you're on nvidia you have to change driver "nv" to driver "nvidia" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:41] <_Spire_> plus more ubuntu documentation is gnome-geared
[04:41] <neuratix> and then restart x
[04:41] <Faintofhearts> Haha "It just works"
[04:41] <_Spire_> since ubuntu ships with gnome
[04:41] <MrSprout> ok
[04:41] <srothroc> Wouldn't it follow, then, that kubuntu docs are more KDE-geared? Or do they have the same sets of docs?
[04:42] <trinkolade> MrSprout, what graphic card do you have? You really did install the driver as described in several howtos? You changed the line in the xorg.conf?
[04:42] <zcat[1] > Faintofhearts: You'd be surprised, edgy on my laptop is totally sweet now. Everything works!!!
[04:42] <MrSprout> Ok
[04:42] <MrSprout> I have a 7600gt
[04:42] <Faintofhearts> Heh
[04:42] <MrSprout> I followed the official nvidia driver installation instructions
[04:42] <_Spire_> everything on my laptop worked perfectly from the beginning... then again, it's probably the most standard laptop ever
[04:42] <MrSprout> but it fails at compiling for a dual core processor
[04:42] <srothroc> I guess the vote's for gnome, then.
[04:42] <Faintofhearts> Well, I was just saying it because that was an apple slogan. Perhaps it still is.
[04:42] <MrSprout> so I was only making use of one of my 2 cores with the kernel it provided.
[04:42] <alexander_> guys, can someone look at http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/DisableIPV6, and tell me how its done?
[04:42] <_Spire_> Pentium M, Intel Pro/Wireless, Broadcom ethernet, ATI graphics
[04:43] <MrSprout> So.. now I've been following kitche's instruction
[04:43] <MrSprout> and done..
[04:43] <srothroc> Sounds like a Dell to me. >.>
[04:43] <rcrook> woohoo... its raining in canberra... about bloody time and all.....
[04:43] <MrSprout> I dunno.. done somthing
[04:43] <_Spire_> srothroc: correct! dell inspiron 600m
[04:43] <MrSprout> The drivers are installed.
[04:43] <MrSprout> but glx isn't enabled
[04:43] <Faintofhearts> neuratix: Perhaps you could help me out? I think I am having a similar problem to that of MrSprout.
[04:43] <MrSprout> and I cant change my screen resolution past 1024x768
[04:43] <zcat[1] > apple: it just works;  ubuntu: it just WORKS;  Windows: It JUST works
[04:44] <Faintofhearts> zcat[1] : HAHA
[04:44] <_Spire_> with something that has an intel mobo, and widely supported network connectivity, it works right out of the box (except if you want fglrx)
[04:44] <MrSprout> ubuntu doesn't just work.
[04:44] <_Spire_> it does, if you have the right hardware :)
[04:44] <neuratix> MrSprout: make sure you've changed the driver "nv" line to driver "nvidia"
[04:44] <MrSprout> ok, i'll go do that.
[04:44] <zcat[1] > MrSprout: once it's set up properly, it does. And keeps working.
[04:45] <_Spire_> MrSprout: and make sure that Load "glx" is in there, too
[04:45] <neuratix> yeah, i was about to say that :)
[04:46] <Faintofhearts> Ok, I think what I am trying to enable is "direct graphics" or something similar. I am not the most Ubuntu inclined person, so could someone help me?
[04:46] <neuratix> direct rendering perhaps?
[04:46] <alexander_> guys
[04:46] <MrSprout> neuratix, it was changed already.
[04:46] <alexander_> can some plz help?
[04:46] <rukuartic> alexander_: Y0
[04:46] <_Spire_> alexander_: sure
[04:46] <jroes> can someone tell me how to reinstall grub?  i resized my primary partition and now I'm getting this error 17 (filesystem type not recognized)...
[04:47] <neuratix> MrSprout: look for load "glx"
[04:47] <alexander_> rukuartic, _Spire_ http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/DisableIPV6... i dont understand how you do it :(
[04:47] <_Spire_> alexander_: okiex
[04:47] <MrSprout> where abouts?
[04:47] <_Spire_> *s
[04:47] <alexander_> _Spire_, i dont understand how do you change it
[04:47] <Faintofhearts> neuratix: Perhaps... I was trying to configure my computer so I could run Quake 3 (For some reason it won't run, though it did back on Windows).
[04:47] <uval> hola
[04:47] <rukuartic> alexander_: Ok. "sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[04:47] <zcat[1] > Faintofhearts: what video card?
[04:47] <rukuartic> alexander_: And then put those lines in there
[04:48] <Faintofhearts> zcat[1] : It's an Intel 810 (I think)
[04:48] <neuratix> MrSprout: post your xorg.conf on the pastebin
[04:48] <_Spire_> alexander_: then reboot
[04:48] <alexander_> rukuartic, well i got to the file and stuff... i just dont understand the part were you have to change the lines... how do i change them?
[04:48] <neuratix> !pastebin | MrSprout
[04:48] <MrSprout> neuratix, where in the file would I find this?
[04:48] <ubotu> MrSprout: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:48] <MrSprout> ok
[04:48] <_Spire_> alexander_: just type in those lines
[04:48] <_Spire_> alexander_: or copy and paste them
[04:48] <pkh> my screen refresh rate is slow on ubuntu (50hz vs 80Hz in xp) -- I've set the oriz and vert refresh settings for my monitor, but it still runs @ 50Hz, any ideas?
[04:49] <_Spire_> alexander_: try this
[04:49] <alexander_> _Spire_, just stick them anywere in there?
[04:49] <neuratix> MrSprout: i cant remember that myself when not looking at it you see :)
[04:49] <_Spire_> alexander_: just one sec
[04:49] <Gunny> Hey, I've just installed Ubuntu Server Edgy 64bit. I'm attempting to download the kernel headers off the cd (linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic), but it says they arn't available.
[04:49] <Gunny> Problem is, I need them to install my network drivers
[04:49] <MrSprout> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38465/
[04:50] <eigenlambda> download off the cd?
[04:50] <Gunny> Where can I get the headers so I can stick em on a USB key and install them manually?
[04:50] <eigenlambda> oh
[04:50] <Gunny> It can't find them on the CD
[04:50] <_Spire_> alexander_: put them in at the end
[04:50] <Faintofhearts> zcat[1] : It should still be a similar set up, correct? I have downloaded the drivers and installed them, but it still doesn't run smoothly. One of my friends tried to walk me through some things, but it didn't do anything.
[04:50] <eigenlambda> try archive.us.ubuntu.com?
[04:50] <alexander_> _Spire_, and what about the originals?
[04:50] <alexander_> _Spire_, just leave them they way they are?
[04:50] <Faintofhearts> In fact, it made it worse, because now Mplayer is glitchy on videos.
[04:50] <Gunny> eigenlambda?
[04:50] <_Spire_> alexander_: leave everything else the way it is
[04:50] <eigenlambda> lol
[04:50] <_Spire_> except one thing
[04:50] <eigenlambda> no
[04:50] <eigenlambda> try packages.ubuntu.com
[04:50] <eigenlambda> to find a package
[04:51] <eigenlambda> and download it
[04:51] <MrSprout> neuratix, you reading it?
[04:51] <marshall> whats up gangsters
[04:51] <neuratix> MrSprout: yes
[04:51] <alexander_> _Spire_, so just cut and paste the commands, to the end of the file, and save right?
[04:51] <_Spire_> alexander_: copy and paste, but don't save yet
[04:51] <zcat[1] > Faintofhearts: No idea. funny thing is Intel opensourced their drivers recently, so the support should be better for intel than anything else...
[04:51] <eigenlambda> http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/devel/linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic
[04:51] <jroes> can someone tell me how to reinstall grub?  i resized my primary partition and now I'm getting this error 17 (filesystem type not recognized)...
[04:51] <_Spire_> alexander_: are you in the gui or at the terminal?
[04:51] <eigenlambda> ^ download link on that page
[04:51] <marshall> how do you change the default programs on your system? im trying to change my default file manager to thunar and my default image viewer to mirage
[04:52] <neuratix> MrSprout: i can't see anything wrong, but mine is a bit diferent. i just installed the drivers from the repositories
[04:52] <neuratix> i've got a 7600gt card too btw
[04:52] <alexander_> _Spire_, im looking through gedit at them
[04:52] <MrSprout> ffs
[04:52] <eigenlambda> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=amd64&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fl%2Flinux-source-2.6.17%2Flinux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic_2.6.17.1-10.34_amd64.deb&md5sum=a96cb082cf0c1969964570665be5cb61&arch=amd64&type=security
[04:52] <eigenlambda> ^ ya that
[04:52] <Gunny> How do I install the package after?
[04:52] <eigenlambda> gdebi
[04:52] <MrSprout> ok, should I install from the repositories?
[04:52] <_Spire_> alexander_: are you running gedit as root
[04:52] <eigenlambda> actually, when you download it in firefox, it should prompt you
[04:52] <Gunny> ?
[04:52] <_Spire_> alexander_: if you're not, quit gedit
[04:52] <eigenlambda> lol rite
[04:52] <screechingcat> im not able to boot into my gnome session. can anybody help me ?
[04:53] <neuratix> MrSprout: i haven't had any problems with that, just search fro nvidia and youll find it i guess
[04:53] <eigenlambda> where does gdebi live?
[04:53] <eigenlambda> or you could, you know, dpkg -i
[04:53] <bruenig> screechingcat, details, error messages, etc.
[04:53] <alexander_> _Spire_, ok, i exited gedit, know what do i do? open a terminal?
[04:53] <_Spire_> alexander_: are you in gnome?
[04:53] <MrSprout> neuratix, do i need to uninstall this one first?
[04:54] <Gunny> Okay, I'll give that a shot
[04:54] <alexander_> _Spire_, yes
[04:54] <Gunny> Thanks so much
[04:54] <_Spire_> alexander_: if you are, just do this:
[04:54] <screechingcat> bruenig: gdm starts up fine. but if i boot into any session cept failsafe gnome, i see the splash-screen and then gdm reloads again
[04:54] <zcat[1] > FWIW I would suggest running 32bit linux on 64bit hardware unless you're sure that every bit of hardware and software you want to use is completely supported, OSS, and build for 64bit already.
[04:54] <bruenig> screechingcat, no error?
[04:54] <screechingcat> bruenig: but im able to boot into failsafe gnome. thats how im using xchat
[04:54] <_Spire_> alexander_: hit Alt-F2 and type in "gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/aliases" without the quotes
[04:55] <mikerobi> screechingcat: time to start deleting dotfiles
[04:55] <screechingcat> bruenig: nothing that pops up and says "error".
[04:55] <_Spire_> you'll be prompted for your password, then you'll be in gedit again, except with the ability to make changes to system files
[04:55] <bruenig> screechingcat, I have had it give me an error message and throw me back into gdm, but never just giving me no error messages
[04:55] <bruenig> screechingcat, hard to diagnose without one
[04:55] <_3uG_> is openoffice broken for anyone else? the latest ubuntu update dealie broke it (more specifically, it broke ttf-opensymbol, which oo depends on)
[04:55] <screechingcat> mikerobi: i did delete all the /tmp files. dint help
[04:55] <Faintofhearts> How would I go about viewing my drivers lists?
[04:55] <Faintofhearts> driver lists*
[04:55] <mikerobi> back up every hidden file in your home directory
[04:55] <screechingcat> bruenig: i coulld check the log
[04:55] <Faintofhearts> For visuals.
[04:55] <bruenig> screechingcat, delete ~/.Xauthority
[04:55] <marshall> how do you change the default programs on your system? im trying to change my default file manager to thunar and my default image viewer to mirage
[04:55] <bruenig> or yeah backup....
[04:56] <alexander_> _Spire_, w00t.... i opened it... lolz
[04:56] <neuratix> MrSprout: i don't know really, but here's a tutorial that looks good: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[04:56] <zcat[1] > screechingcat: you havn't run out of diskspace have you?
[04:56] <_Spire_> alexander_: ok, now comes the easy part
[04:56] <noiesmo> !envy | MrSprout
[04:56] <ubotu> MrSprout: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy
[04:56] <zcat[1] > (not sure if someone else already asked)
[04:56] <Faintofhearts> How would I go about viewing my visual driver lists?
[04:56] <screechingcat> zcat[1] : no
[04:56] <_Spire_> alexander_: go to the bottom of the file and copy and paste the first 3 lines, but not the one with the # infront of it
[04:56] <zcat[1] > screechingcat: mv all the config and let gnome rebuild it I guess :)
[04:56] <screechingcat> bruenig: delered it
[04:57] <bruenig> screechingcat, retry
[04:57] <screechingcat> bruenig: right then. be right back
[04:57] <alexander_> _Spire_, k, did that, know what?
[04:57] <zcat[1] > BTW; if you ever want to delete all your dotfiles, 'rm -rf .*' is not the best solution..
[04:57] <_Spire_> alexander_: hit Control-I
[04:57] <alexander_> _Spire_, in gedit?
[04:58] <_Spire_> alexander_: yep
[04:58] <_Spire_> alexander_: then type in 17 and hit enter
[04:58] <mikerobi> zcat[1] : That is the best way do delete all of you dotfiles.
[04:58] <_Spire_> alexander_: that takes you to line 17 of the document
[04:58] <mikerobi> zcat[1] : it is just a bad idea
[04:58] <zcat[1] > mikerobi: Yeah, except it matches '.' and '..' as well....
[04:58] <alexander_> _Spire_, w00t... :D know what?
[04:58] <_Spire_> now type a # at the beginning of the line
[04:59] <screechingcat> No luck
[04:59] <_Spire_> now that line should read the same as the line that you didn't copy and paste
[04:59] <mikerobi> zcat[1] : rm is smarter than tha
[04:59] <Faintofhearts> Is there any way for me to reset my visual settings to default? I mean as in drivers and whatnot.
[04:59] <alexander_> _Spire_, you there man?
[04:59] <mikerobi> zcat[1] : at least zsh is smarter
[04:59] <zcat[1] > mikerobi: you sure?!!
[04:59] <_Spire_> alexander_: yyp
[04:59] <vbgunz> is it possible to create a user without a password?
[04:59] <_Spire_> *yup :P
[05:00] <Gunny> eigenlambda: Thanks a lot, it worked perfectly
[05:00] <alexander_> _Spire_, im there man, at line 17, what do i do next?
[05:00] <Faintofhearts> Is there any way for me to reset my visual settings to default? I mean as in drivers and whatnot.
[05:00] <fiveiron> anyone using a logitech quickcam express?
[05:00] <_Spire_> alexander_: just type a "#" sign (without the quotes, of course)
[05:00] <mikerobi> zcat[1] : rm can't remove '.' or '..'
[05:00] <vbgunz> I need a very limited user (unpriviledged), without a password. I need it for my 2 year old boy. Is this somehow possible?
[05:00] <_Spire_> alexander_: be sure to type it at the beginning of the line, not the end of the line
[05:01] <alexander_> _Spire_, cool, i did that... whats next?
[05:01] <Faintofhearts> I feel like I'm being ignored ;_;
[05:01] <_Spire_> alexander_: does that line read #alias net-pf-10 ipv6
[05:02] <mikerobi> Faintofhearts: display settings, or your entire desktop environment?
[05:02] <alexander_> _Spire_, yes it does :~D
[05:02] <fromvega> _Spire_: hello again, it says it can't find the ubuntu-desktop package. I have only enabled the cd-rom repository. So what do you think?
[05:02] <bruenig> screechingcat, up next ~/.ICEauthority
[05:02] <Faintofhearts> Not my desktop.
[05:02] <Faintofhearts> It's more or less my drivers.
[05:02] <vbgunz> I need a very limited user (unprivileged), without a password. I need it for my 2 year old boy. Is this somehow possible? if not, why not?
[05:02] <screechingcat> bruenig: you want me to keep deleting all the config files until it works ?
[05:02] <_Spire_> alexander_: now just save (File, Save, Ctrl-S, whatever you like to do)
[05:03] <_Spire_> alexander_: and then close gedit and reboot :0
[05:03] <bruenig> screechingcat, that's the plan
[05:03] <_Spire_> alexander_: you're done
[05:03] <mikerobi> screechingcat: just don't delete the important ones
[05:03] <_Spire_> fromvega: is the CD in? (stupid question, I know)
[05:03] <screechingcat> mikerobi: like ?
[05:03] <bruenig> vbgunz, no password is probably unlikely. Why not set his as an automatic logon
[05:03] <_Spire_> fromvega: assuming it is, try typing 'sudo apt-get update' (without quotes)
[05:04] <_Spire_> fromvega: then try again
[05:04] <mikerobi> screechingcat: I can't give you a safe answer
[05:04] <fromvega> _Spire_: hum, ok
[05:04] <alexander_> _Spire_, Ty dude.... TY a lot man....  a guy i know once said: learning linux after windows, is just like learning to walk again... :P
[05:04] <eightball> it is
[05:04] <_Spire_> alexander_: it's sort of true
[05:04] <bruenig> screechingcat, just make sure you back them up before you rm them. Or better yet instead of rm ing them just mv them
[05:04] <eightball> and just when you think you have it, someone comes along and hits you with a baseball bat
[05:04] <vbgunz> bruenig: well, I am not sure on how to do that though I would prefer if he can select his own account and then log-in, he know how to do that stuff (double-click)... how do I auto log-in?
[05:04] <bruenig> or leave
[05:04] <_Spire_> alexander_: actually, really true
[05:05] <Faintofhearts> Indeed.
[05:05] <_Spire_> alexander_: once you get your balance, you can do amazing things
[05:05] <alexander_> _Spire_, just for the reference, when you add a "#" in a command line, what does it do....
[05:05] <bruenig> vbgunz, well auto login is on startup, so that if you were to turn on your computer it would autologin his account.
[05:05] <_Spire_> alexander_: it basically disables (or "comments out") that line
[05:05] <bruenig> vbgunz, set a password like 'a' and have him type that in
[05:05] <fromvega> _Spire_: no success... it's not founding any packages in cdrom
[05:05] <alexander_> _Spire_, oh i know... lol... i just hope that day comes sooner then later for me... lolz...
[05:05] <edgy> Hi, when I do dig@myserver.tld mywebsite.tld from the server it works but from remotely it didn't though I added a rule of -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport domain -j ACCEPT to iptables beside another rule of -A INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 1024:65535 --sport 53 -j ACCEPT, what am I missing please?
[05:06] <bruenig> vbgunz, autologin wouldn't work if you were changing accounts midstream
[05:06] <_Spire_> alexander_: it basically allows you to put in a line that won't be executed
[05:06] <screechingcat> bruenig: mikerobi, It didn't work. whats next ?
[05:06] <bruenig> screechingcat, that's all I've got there must be others. Those are the only ones I ever see mentioned though
[05:06] <_Spire_> alexander_: it's called commenting out because the original use of # (or / in other programming languages) was to add comments to your code
[05:06] <alexander_> _Spire_, so its like when you want to add a comment.... just like a "//" in java or c++... like an escape character i guess
[05:06] <_Spire_> alexander_: exactly :)
[05:07] <vbgunz> bruenig: well, on my wifes computer she has XP. it has that login window with all the accounts, he knows his and knows how to get in... am trying to replicate it as my wife sometimes needs to work and it leaves him without a pc... heh, I'll figure something out I guess :)
[05:07] <alexander_> _Spire_, i think i just brought that day a centimeter closer... lolz
[05:07] <_Spire_> alexander_: the funny thing is most config files in linux use #, but others might use // or something else depending on the appliction
[05:08] <andrew_> hey you guys know anything about persistent mode?
[05:08] <_Spire_> alexander_: if a program is written in X programming language, the config file might use X languages' commenting syntax instead of Y default
[05:08] <vbgunz> bruenig: I found the auto-login, gonna see how that works out
[05:08] <Faintofhearts> I need someone willing to invest some time into helping me...
[05:08] <_Spire_> Faintofhearts: what's your problem? I haven't really been paying attention?
[05:09] <alexander_> _Spire_, w00t.... well im gonna go reboot, ill come after and tell you have it went
[05:09] <_Spire_> alexander_: okies :)
[05:09] <andrew_> I need to know about ati drivers / persistent mode?
[05:09] <bruenig> vbgunz, I don't know what your login screen looks like but generally don't you have to type the username anyways?
[05:09] <BiNz> Faintofhearts, only if your 17/F/USA and weigh < 130 lbs
[05:09] <bruenig> vbgunz, if he can type the username, he can type a password is my thinking
[05:09] <vbgunz> bruenig: yeah, I prefer it like that but Gnome has a face browser so then you'll only have to enter a password
[05:10] <bruenig> BiNz, is USA really necessary
[05:10] <zcat[1] > bruenig: You can set up a 'face browser' like windows has.
[05:10] <Faintofhearts> _Spire_: Well, a few days ago a friend of mine was helping me optimize my graphics card, but in the end it didn't work.
[05:10] <bruenig> zcat[1] , hmmm sounds gay
[05:10] <_Spire_> Faintofhearts: what'd he do? :P
[05:10] <zcat[1] > bruenig: 'tiz
[05:10] <Faintofhearts> _Spire_: I was told to change my Xorg.conf file, and edit in some things.
[05:10] <Zahrber> I am 37/M/USA 6'2" 255 lbs brown hair blue eyes Virgo who likes walking in the rain and Pina Colada's LOL
[05:11] <andrew_> virgin who likes walking in the rain?
[05:11] <_Spire_> Faintofhearts: did something like direct renderning go away?
[05:11] <BiNz> Zahrber, ohhh sexy
[05:11] <Faintofhearts> _Spire_: I edited in what he told me to do, and reset X.
[05:11] <Zahrber> Yeah except I am married with 4 boys
[05:11] <andrew_> anybody know about persistent mode in here??????
[05:11] <_Spire_> Faintofhearts: but what's the problem? what's not working?
[05:11] <BiNz> lol
[05:11] <andrew_> Zahrber: Artificial insemination?
[05:12] <_Spire_> why are we talking about this? XD
[05:12] <Zahrber> Yeah a judge and 4 blood test say they are mine
[05:12] <Faintofhearts> _Spire_: Well, we didn't get what I wanted working working, and now Mplayer's video is worse quality than it was before I screwed around with the settings..
[05:12] <andrew_> wow, why did you need that?
[05:12] <screechingcat> bruenig: would any of these - sudo init.d gdm
[05:12] <screechingcat>  sudo invoke gdm
[05:12] <screechingcat>  sudo invoke-init.d
[05:12] <screechingcat>  sudo init.d-gdm break gdm ? because i was using the command line yesterday and i didnt know the exact command to start gdm. since then ive had this problem
[05:12] <petafile> How does one burn a movie dvd?  like to play in a standard dvd player?
[05:12] <BiNz> haha so he had them tested, cant trust the wives these days
[05:13] <bruenig> screechingcat, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[05:13] <_Spire_> Faintofhearts: what did you want working? and do you remember what you added? It'd help a _lot_
[05:13] <Zahrber> K3B is a DVD byrner
[05:13] <bruenig> or restart or stop if you wish
[05:13] <Zahrber> burner
[05:13] <zcat[1] > screechingcat: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:13] <Faintofhearts> Actually I do
[05:13] <bruenig> k3b is an all purpose burner
[05:13] <andrew_> if I used Easyubuntu, and the ATI drivers didnt install, do you think its because im using persistent mode?
[05:13] <petafile> Zahrber: I"ll check it out
[05:13] <zcat[1] > hmm.. late as usual
[05:13] <bruenig> !easyubuntu
[05:13] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[05:13] <screechingcat> bruenig: zcat[1]  NO. i dont want the command. i asked if any of the above could break it ?
[05:13] <zcat[1] > screechingcat: yes/no/perhaps?
[05:14] <noota> where is easyubuntu?
[05:14] <_Spire_> Faintofhearts: you know what you added?
[05:14] <zcat[1] > screechingcat: I wouldn't have thought so
[05:14] <bruenig> screechingcat, not good to copy and pase stuff you don't know
[05:14] <alexander_> w00t
[05:14] <bruenig> noota, you don't want it. It just installs a bunch of stuff that you could do on your own except on occasion it can fail
[05:14] <_Spire_> alexander_: worked?
[05:14] <bruenig> noota, not nearly as often as automatix but occasionally
[05:14] <marshall> thanks guys
[05:14] <noota> where is easyubuntu? in korea?
[05:14] <screechingcat> i dint copy/paste that. i was trying to get my GUI started (i was using the commandline) and i forgot the command
[05:14] <bruenig> noota, it is on the tubes
[05:15] <_Spire_> screechingcat: startx?
[05:15] <Faintofhearts> _Spire_: I was trying to get Quake 3 to run properly (Which it CAN with this hardware because it did under windows), and I added... I'll PM it to you :P	
[05:15] <noota> tube?
[05:15] <alexander_> _Spire_, well, its faster for sure.... but its still like maybe 5 sec longer. its still better then the 20-sec i was waiting for before....
[05:15] <_Spire_> Faintofhearts: ok
[05:15] <zcat[1] > .nl ?
[05:15] <andrew_> I wish somebody knew something about LIVE persistence here :-(
[05:15] <_Spire_> alexander_: :)
[05:15] <noota> website name is tubes?
[05:15] <bruenig> noota, the tubes, that is what the internet is, it is a series of tubes, not a dump truck
[05:15] <Zahrber> startx use to start X windows from command line back in the day when I used mandrake
[05:15] <alexander_> _Spire_, that silly IPv6..... making my life hell.... lolz
[05:15] <screechingcat> i dont care about that command now. WHY IS MY GNOME NOT BOOTING ?
[05:16] <noota> can i search google?
[05:16] <bruenig> noota, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=easyubuntu&btnG=Google+Search
[05:16] <Zahrber> is Gnome your default WM
[05:16] <zcat[1] > My staff sent me an internet last week, I got it this morning!
[05:16] <screechingcat> Zahrber: yep
[05:16] <BiNz> is IPv6 really neccessary?
[05:16] <noota> thanks bruenig
[05:16] <vox754> !search easyubuntu
[05:16] <ubotu> Found: easyubuntu
[05:16] <Zahrber> does any WM boot
[05:16] <noota> are you korean?
[05:16] <alexander_> _Spire_, actually you know what, its working like super fast now... lolz... IM FREE AGAIN! ahahahahha
[05:16] <andrew_> I wish somebody knew something about LIVE persistence here :-(!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:16] <vox754> !find easyubuntu
[05:16] <ubotu> Package/file easyubuntu does not exist in edgy
[05:16] <screechingcat> Zahrber: i can boot into failsafe gnome.
[05:17] <bruenig> noota, I was just named the secretary general of the UN
[05:17] <_Spire_> alexander_: great :)
[05:17] <screechingcat> Zahrber: everything else, i just get as far as the spalsh screen and then gdm reloads
[05:17] <andrew_> ubotu: you know anything about persistent mode?
[05:17] <Zahrber> screechingcat: but regular Gnome kicks you to command line or what
[05:17] <noota> secretary? of the UN?
[05:17] <noota> Wow~
[05:17] <andrew_> lol
[05:17] <andrew_> ubotu isnt real
[05:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about isnt real - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:17] <bruenig> noota, therefore I am korean
[05:17] <noota> thanks for your answer~!
[05:17] <bruenig> andrew_, he is real, look at him
[05:17] <screechingcat> Zahrber: no. regular gnome sends me back to gdm.
[05:17] <alexander_> _Spire_, ty man... ty a lot. I really really appreciate it. Hey, in ubuntu, is there like an antivirus, or no?
[05:17] <Zahrber> screechingcat: hmmm
[05:18] <elysium444> !mp3
[05:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:18] <noota> really?
[05:18] <andrew_> !ati
[05:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:18] <screechingcat> Zahrber: WITHOUT coughing out any errors
[05:18] <Zahrber> screechingcat: did you change configuration in X at all like refresh rate or resolution
[05:18] <vox754> !search antivirus
[05:18] <ubotu> Found: antivirus
[05:18] <_Spire_> alexander_: well, there aren't really any known viruses for linux, so no one really uses antivirus
[05:18] <noota>  
[05:18] <screechingcat> Zahrber: nope
[05:18] <nosh> can someone please help me figure out how to get better than 800x600 from the live cd?
[05:18] <zcat[1] > ubotu used th be real, but the ops rotated him 90 degrees and now he's imaginary.
[05:18] <bruenig> noota, this is me http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ban_Ki-moon
[05:18] <noota>   ?
[05:19] <elysium444> !xine
[05:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:19] <elysium444> !libxine
[05:19] <bruenig> !en
[05:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libxine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:19] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[05:19] <noota> this is your website?
[05:19] <Zahrber> screechingcat: sounds like a config if fail safe works
[05:19] <alexander_> _Spire_, well thats what i thought... ive been giving it a bit thought the past couple of days...
[05:19] <elysium444> !sq
[05:19] <bruenig> noota, that is a bio of me somebody did
[05:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sq - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:19] <vox754> !antivirus
[05:19] <ubotu> antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[05:19] <screechingcat> !ubotu
[05:19] <vox754> !linuxvirus
[05:19] <ubotu> The short life and hard times of a Linux Virus http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[05:19] <zcat[1] > !linuxvirus
[05:20] <nosh> !resolution
[05:20] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:20] <_Spire_> alexander_: you should use a firewall, though
[05:20] <_Spire_> alexander_: try installing firestarter
[05:20] <alexander_> _Spire_, cool.... are there any others?
[05:20] <screechingcat> Zahrber: so now what do i do ?
[05:20] <_Spire_> alexander_: yup, but firestarter is by far the easiest to install
[05:20] <andrew_> how do I configure my synaptics touchpad, it says the driver is already to install!!
[05:21] <_Spire_> alexander_: just use synaptic to install it
[05:21] <andrew_> installed*
[05:21] <vox754> !find firestarter
[05:21] <ubotu> Found: firestarter
[05:21] <san> !ubotu
[05:21] <Zahrber> screechingcat: a virus in Linux is possible, it will do most damage if you are careless with using root or su
[05:21] <andrew_> !synaptics
[05:21] <ubotu> For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[05:21] <alexander_> _Spire_, well thats one thing i figured out how to use.... the SYNAPTIC... :~D
[05:21] <vox754> !firestarter
[05:21] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[05:21] <Zahrber> screechingcat: sorry forgot I wanted to talk to everyone
[05:21] <screechingcat> Zahrber: come on. be realistic. i dont think its a virus.
[05:21] <_Spire_> the simplest virus in the whole world, yet deadly:
[05:22] <_Spire_> sudo rm -rf /* && sudo reboot
[05:22] <elysium444> !libxine-extracodecs
[05:22] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB
[05:22] <nosh> !screen preferences
[05:22] <ubotu> screen: a terminal multiplexor with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation. In component main, is optional. Version 4.0.2-4.1ubuntu5.6.10 (edgy), package size 570 kB, installed size 976 kB
[05:22] <zcat[1] > one of the best defenses against linux viruses and spyware is package management; nobody runs stuff from email or web downloads, we get signed packages from trusted apt repositories.. this is a good thing.
[05:22] <nosh> !preferences
[05:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about preferences - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:22] <noota> bruenig, you serve ban-gi-moon 8th Secretary-General of the United Nations Designate???
[05:23] <trix> i'm using xterm and irssi in kubuntu, but i can't use alt +1 or 2,3 to switch windows
[05:23] <bruenig> noota, I am ban-ki moon
[05:23] <Zahrber> I use Linux to test out my windows programs for virus so ClamAv is very useful even though it is not a great AV
[05:23] <noota> really?
[05:23] <noota> huk
[05:23] <noota> nice to meet you~!
[05:23] <fromvega2> hello again
[05:23] <noota> really?
[05:24] <nosh> hey, does anyone know about screen resolution preferneces?
[05:24] <noota> i'm dizzy
[05:24] <_Spire_> nosh: I do, just a second :)
[05:24] <nosh> thanks
[05:24] <zcat[1] > !res
[05:24] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:24] <Zahrber> I use Linux to check my email because most worms and trojans can't function on Linux in Evolution
[05:24] <zcat[1] > !botsnack
[05:24] <ubotu> Yum!
[05:24] <nosh> I've looked at that and it didnt help...
[05:25] <zcat[1] > nosh: what was your problem?
[05:25] <fromvega2> sometimes some command outputs are too large that doesn't fit in the screen, so I can't read the beginning. How do I pause the output ?
[05:25] <nosh> well, my ibook is stuck in 800x600. I want 1024x768
[05:25] <Zahrber> nosh: what are you wanting to know
[05:25] <zcat[1] > fromvega2:  | less
[05:25] <nosh> the xord config has that as a resolution
[05:25] <wastrel> fromvega2:  use the less command to page through the output    somecommand | less
[05:25] <fromvega2> tks
 | less
[05:25] <fromvega2> :D
[05:25] <_Spire_> nosh: ok, go to system > preferences > screen resolution
[05:25] <nosh> but the screen preferences dialog doesnt list it
[05:26] <fnf> I'm writing a few scripts that logouts a GNOME session, will anyone tell me what is the related commands for this ?
[05:26] <_Spire_> nosh: screen resolution doesn't list 1024x768?
[05:26] <nosh> ok, and it has 800x600 and 640x 480
[05:26] <nosh> no... but it is in the xorg conf file
[05:26] <_Spire_> nosh: can you pastebin your xorg.conf?
[05:26] <nosh> sure... into this channel?
[05:26] <fnf> !logout
[05:26] <_Spire_> nosh: nope
[05:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about logout - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:26] <Zahrber> nosh: what is your refresh rate set at if it too high to support your screen at that res and refresh it will not be available
[05:27] <zcat[1] > nosh: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log, it might say why it can't/wont give you that mode...
[05:27] <_Spire_> nosh: go to pastebin.com, or PM me
[05:27] <nosh> just a sec _spire_
[05:28] <_Spire_> nosh: ok
[05:29] <timo901> Im trying to get xine to play DVB-T but i have a chaannel .conf problem
[05:29] <sontalfre> the proxy server is refusing connections ????
[05:29] <codemonkey2> is there a ruby on rails channel or can someone help me?
[05:30] <timo901> xine dvb:// dosent play any dvb-t
[05:30] <codemonkey2> ive got an in in my document root. In apache ive got rewrite, but when it renders images it sets the location to appOne/appOne/galery/etc
[05:30] <codemonkey2> where is the extra appOne comming from? anyone got any ideas
[05:30] <nosh> _spire_: I just dumped my xorg conf to pastebin.com
[05:30] <_Spire_> ok
[05:30] <_Spire_> nosh: what's the link?
[05:30] <nosh> oh... lol
[05:30] <alexander_> _Spire_, ty man, im going to go hit the sacks.... Thank-you for your help... Thank-you A lot!
[05:30] <nosh> http://pastebin.com/843570
[05:31] <Rug> Howdy all
[05:31] <alexander_> night everyone
[05:32] <petafile> I just installed k3b, started a video dvd project.  how do I burn an avi movie to video dvd?
[05:32] <petafile> there's a audio_ts and video_ts folder
[05:32] <_Spire_> nosh: I don't see anything wrong with that...
[05:32] <Rug> I have just reinstalled dapper (after hardware upgrade) and now my mouse isn't working.  PS2 mode and USB.  I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver but that didn't help.  Any ideas?
[05:32] <Zahrber> petafile: an avi must be converted to MPEG 4 format to be viewable as a dvd movie if that is what you mean
[05:33] <nosh> _spire_: yeah, its the standard one from the live cd... I guess autodetected
[05:33] <kuto_> j ##C++
[05:33] <petafile> Zahrber: does k3b not do that for you?
[05:33] <max_> anyone use beryl?
[05:33] <Zahrber> petafile: I think it does those are the files that make up the dvd movie so that is good
[05:33] <nosh> _spire_: is there a manual way to switch res outside the screen preferences dialog?
[05:33] <Zahrber> I haven't used K3b in awhile
[05:34] <cabrono> \part
[05:34] <petafile> Zahrber: do you use anything that burns dvd movies from avi?
[05:34] <_Spire_> nosh: possibly
[05:34] <Zahrber> but I am sure that it converts for you
[05:34] <Zahrber> I used k3b awhile back and it worked for me
[05:35] <vox754> !beryl
[05:35] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[05:35] <Zahrber> petafile:one sec I will check
[05:35] <petafile> k
[05:35] <_Spire_> nosh: try this: go to a terminal and type "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and then hit Ctrl-W and then Ctrl-T
[05:35] <_Spire_> nosh: type 142 and hit enter
[05:35] <vox754> !search dvd
[05:35] <ubotu> Found: libdvdcss,libdvdcss2,dvd,burners,dvdiso,k9copy,dvd-torrent,dvd-torrent-#kubuntu,css
[05:35] <andrew_> !SHMConfig
[05:35] <andrew_> crap
[05:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about SHMConfig - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:35] <vox754> !burners
[05:35] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[05:36] <andrew_> !IHATEUBUNTU
[05:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about IHATEUBUNTU - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:36] <_Spire_> nosh: then delete anything on that line after 1024x768
[05:36] <wastrel> nano
[05:36] <andrew_> does anyone know how to get the settings for my synaptics touchpad?
[05:37] <orestyle9> Ideas on terminal emulator for Windows servers from ubuntu?
[05:37] <Rug> andrew_: not with that attitude
[05:37] <Rug> orestyle9: rdesktop like?
[05:37] <orestyle9> similar yes...
[05:37] <wastrel> orestyle9:  terminal server client in the applications menu?
[05:37] <orestyle9> but no rdesktop
[05:37] <Rug> orestyle9: =)
[05:37] <timo901> how do i make use of these http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?do_Details=1&ID=2034&O=0&L=0&C=0&K=dvb&SB=&SO=&PP=25&do_MyPackages=0&do_Orphans=0&SeB=nd
[05:37] <Rug> orestyle9: tsclient
[05:37] <andrew_> Rug: <3
[05:38] <orestyle9> I have one installed on a machine at work  .. It might be tsclient..  Thanks..
[05:38] <Neeled> andrew_:  What kind of settings do you need?  But like Rug said, please be patient.
[05:38] <nosh> _spire_: ok, I just left the hi res mode on that line... written the file out, but what to do to make xord reload it?
[05:38] <vox754> !search touchpad
[05:38] <ubotu> Found: synaptics
[05:38] <andrew_> Neeled: I installed gsynaptics, but it says i need to change my config
[05:38] <Zahrber> petafile: yeah it should work
[05:38] <orestyle9> Im on my way out of the windows world, but baby steps.... :)
[05:39] <petafile> Zahrber: how do you do it?
[05:39] <Rug> orestyle9: it's all good
[05:39] <orestyle9> I wonder why tsclient needs to uninstall openoffice?
[05:39] <Zahrber> petafile: did you rip the movie from dvd or you have an AVI you want to convert
[05:39] <_Spire_> nosh: hit Ctrl-X then Y
[05:39] <Rug> orestyle9: it shouldn't
[05:39] <petafile> Zahrber: avi
[05:39] <nosh> ok, thanks... just s sec
[05:40] <Neeled> andrew_:  Let me see if I can find something on that.
[05:40] <vox754> !search avi
[05:40] <ubotu> Found: sound,trivia,xgl-#ubuntu-xgl,ops,rules,banned,guidelines,manners,ops-#edubuntu,behaviour
[05:40] <_Spire_> nosh: then restart
[05:40] <nosh> _spire_... ctrl x y does nothing...
[05:40] <petafile> Zahrber: i found a guide on how to do it from linuxquestions.org.  I can follwot that
[05:40] <orestyle9> I just did an aptitude and tsclient installed, all my oopenoffice went bye bye.    I wonder if its because I didn't use synaptics?
[05:40] <nosh> ctrl x backspace?
[05:40] <Zahrber> petafile: then setup the encoding process it should be like a project and then load the avi and let it encode, this may take a while
[05:41] <vox754> nosh: ctrl + alt + bckspc
[05:41] <vox754> nosh: ctrl + alt + backspace
[05:41] <Zahrber> petafile: most of them are so similar just have to understand what you want to do
[05:41] <dint> !search xgl
[05:41] <ubotu> Found: beryl,xgl,fglrx-#ubuntu-xgl,xgl-#ubuntu-xgl,startup-#ubuntu-xgl,ati-#ubuntu-xgl,kororaa-#ubuntu-xgl,pbuffer-#ubuntu-xgl,supported cards-#ubuntu-xgl,breezy-#ubuntu-xgl
[05:41] <nosh> meh... no backspace on my ibook. delete doesnt seem to cut it
[05:41] <orestyle9> well I used synaptics to install openoffice, but aptitude to install tsclient...  I thought they basically where the same...
[05:42] <Neeled> andrew_: I don't know if this is what you need, but there are some basic instructions on http://gsynaptics.sourceforge.jp/
[05:42] <jacob_> hi, i tried installing the nvidia-glx drivers via synaptic, but when i try to configure them it says "Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver!"
[05:42] <andrew_> Neeled: thanks
[05:42] <Zahrber> nosh: are you editing with root account
[05:43] <Jeronimus> is this some conspirancy of linux irc client writers to not allow for autoarranging/splitting windows within the application itself?
[05:43] <_JECKEL_> how do you start an ssh server?
[05:43] <Rug> _JECKEL_: /etc/init.d/sshd start
[05:43] <_JECKEL_> ok
[05:43] <_JECKEL_> thanks
[05:43] <_JECKEL_> forgot that part
[05:44] <_JECKEL_> not working
[05:44] <_JECKEL_> for some odd reason
[05:44] <orestyle9> is it installed?
[05:44] <Neeled> Jeronimus: There's probably a way to do it, but I haven't found it yet.  I've asked around and haven't had any luck.  I know, it's not like mIRC.
[05:44] <_JECKEL_> and I know I have openssh-server installed
[05:44] <orestyle9> if you run top do you see it already running?
[05:45] <Jeronimus> Neeled - in xchat there is no way to do it. thats why i installed another one now to test. again no luck... its ridiculous they dont add such useful fuctions
[05:45] <Rug> I have just reinstalled dapper (after hardware upgrade) and now my mouse isn't working.  PS2 mode and USB.  I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but that didn't help.  Any ideas?
[05:45] <wastrel> what if you plug it into a diff usb port
[05:45] <_JECKEL_> I see a crap load of stuff running actually
[05:46] <_JECKEL_> how do I scroll down with top? lol
[05:46] <Rug> wastrel: it doesn't help
[05:46] <wastrel> do you see it in lsusb   do you see it in the kernel log (dmesg when you plug it in?)
[05:46] <andrew_> anyone: anybody know anything about persistent mode when using a live-cd?
[05:46] <Jeronimus> Needed - in xchat you could detach all chat windows and have your window manager autoarrange them. but of course... gnome with metacity doesnt have such an option...
[05:46] <Rug> wastrel: lsusb: yes dmesg Yes
[05:46] <orestyle9> do a shift period and that will sort them by name (i think) I have ssh-agent running on mine so if you have it, it should show (if its running)
[05:46] <rcrook> ok, I am finally caving and going to install ubuntu on mt laptop... only one problem, how do I shrink my ntfs partition without having to reinstall loserdoze xp?
[05:47] <wastrel> rug so what do we do now?
[05:47] <vox754> !search persistent
[05:47] <ubotu> Found: persistence
[05:47] <Dorrinal> Hello
[05:47] <vox754> !persistence
[05:47] <ubotu> To have some persistent storage when using a Live CD, follow the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDPersistence
[05:47] <PORDO> i'm very flustered, trying to figure out how to access the mic input on my ICH
[05:47] <Rug> wastrel: nuke it & reinstall?
[05:47] <PORDO> ICH5
[05:47] <wastrel> good lord no
[05:47] <rukuartic> Hey everyone. I've got a spare 1.0 Ghz 256 mb Ram computer sitting in my basement thats not getting used for much. Does anyone have an idea of what I can do to help the community out with, like a seti@home server or a public ftp or free shells? (Yes I'm aware about the abuse, but part of the fun for me would be stopping it from happening)
[05:47] <_JECKEL_> hmmm?
[05:47] <Gunny> Hrm..
[05:47] <Gunny> Which is the latest version version for download in Ubuntu?
[05:47] <wastrel> rcrook:  the installer contains gparted which can resize ntfs.  defrag in windows first
[05:47] <noota> easy ubuntu very good
[05:47] <Jeronimus> before i try every single irc client out there for linux. is anyone using an irc client for linux which allows for spliting windows (autoarranging them like in mIRC)?
[05:47] <rukuartic> Gunny: 6.10
[05:47] <wastrel> and of course, backup your data.
[05:48] <Neeled> Jeronimus: That's a thought.  One could also code it in, of course, but I don't have experience in that.  I'd be looking for something like how Opera handles windows.
[05:48] <vox754> !tell andrew_ about persistence
[05:48] <nosh> _spire_ : ah... found the right keys. So it restarted and still only offers up to 800x600
[05:48] <Rug> rukuartic: mprime, warez ftp server =)
[05:48] <rukuartic> Gunny: Also known as "Edgy Eft"
[05:48] <nosh> :'(
[05:48] <Gunny> Sorry, I worded that wrong
[05:48] <rukuartic> Rug: Emphasis on "non illicit activity"
[05:48] <_Spire_> nosh: don't know what to do now :(
[05:48] <Gunny> Which is the latest kernel version for download in Ubuntu?
[05:48] <Rug> rukuartic: jk
[05:48] <kitche> Jeronimus if you want you can run mirc in wine runs rather well
[05:48] <Gunny> 2.6.17 is kinda old now
[05:48] <nosh> _spire_ ah well... thankyou so much for giving me a hand.
[05:48] <Jeronimus> kitche - i do that, but mirc in wine is sluggish/slow
[05:48] <rcrook> wastrel: cool, whats the best ntfs defrag prog to use?
[05:49] <wastrel> rcrook:  i have very little experience with windows, doesn't it come with one?
[05:49] <vox754> !kernel
[05:49] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[05:49] <orestyle9> that was nice, when I try to connect with tsclient I get booted off system..
[05:49] <orestyle9> errrr...
[05:49] <vox754> !search defrag
[05:49] <ubotu> Found: defrag,defragmentation
[05:49] <vox754> !defrag
[05:49] <ubotu> defragmentation is not needed for Ext3 and ReiserFS filesystems. They are much more efficient in their allocation of storage units.
[05:49] <_JECKEL_> don't seem to have sshd in my init.d
[05:49] <rcrook> wastrel: not a very good one.. does move files to beginning of disk, always leaves something at the end
[05:50] <midgetg0at> Hey guys, trying to figure out VMWare - nver used it before, but I'd like to get a windows xp install going, any one offer some advice? Does Ubuntu Edgy come with what I need? Do i need to download vmware workstation? Not finding an all inclusive "noob" guide.
[05:50] <_JECKEL_> don't know why though
[05:50] <vox754> !defragmentation
[05:50] <midgetg0at> !vmware
[05:50] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). Instructions for VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[05:50] <Gunny> midget: Get VMWare server for free www.VMWare.com/server/
[05:50] <_JECKEL_> I know I have openssh-server installed
[05:50] <Gunny> Works perfectly on Ubuntu
[05:50] <midgetg0at> so i need the server
[05:50] <midgetg0at> do i have to compile it?
[05:50] <Gunny> Workstation is depritiated
[05:50] <wastrel> _JECKEL_:  apt-cache policy openssh-server   (:
[05:50] <Gunny> no
[05:50] <midgetg0at> k, thanks for the heads up.
[05:51] <_JECKEL_> installed
[05:51] <rcrook> anyone know a decent ntfs defrag prog?
[05:51] <Gunny> Yeah
[05:51] <vox754> !defragmentation
[05:51] <ubotu> defragmentation is not needed for Ext3 and ReiserFS filesystems. They are much more efficient in their allocation of storage units.
[05:51] <Gunny> Right click on your drive, properties, utilities, defrag
[05:51] <orestyle9> _JECKEL_ :  and is it running, can you do a reload or restart?
[05:52] <midgetg0at> I dont see a .deb vmware server....
[05:52] <Gunny> There isn't one
[05:52] <midgetg0at> :)
[05:52] <Gunny> You need to download from www.VMWare.com/server/
[05:52] <wastrel> !vmware
[05:52] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). Instructions for VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[05:52] <_JECKEL_> I can't get it to restart the server
[05:52] <orestyle9> I wonder if reinstalling it would help....
[05:52] <midgetg0at> thanks guys, i'll fudge around w/ it for a bit.
[05:52] <Neeled> midgetg0at: I see it there
[05:53] <_JECKEL_> hmmm
[05:53] <Neeled> midgetg0at: it looks like it comes in .rpm and .tar.gz
[05:53] <midgetg0at> yes, i know....i'm just trying to avoid building anything, but i guess i just run an install.pl or something
[05:53] <Neeled> midgetg0at: I believe you could use alien to convert the rpm to deb format
[05:54] <Neeled> (correct me if I'm wrong)
[05:54] <midgetg0at> so that community page says player, workstation or server...i'm guessing i dont want player as i dont want to be able to only used pre-made images....
[05:54] <midgetg0at> but do i really need server just to run xp?
[05:54] <Gunny> Yes
[05:54] <vox754> !search rpm
[05:54] <ubotu> Found: alien,rpm,distributions
[05:54] <vox754> !rpm
[05:54] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[05:55] <Gunny> It's not much different then workstation was
[05:58] <faintofhearts> lol server crash.
[05:59] <wyld> lol
[05:59] <wyld> welcome back
[05:59] <dint> lol
[05:59] <Daelan> that i s awesome
[05:59] <dint> what the heck
[05:59] <midgetg0at> now there is some house cleaning
[05:59] <dint> :D
[05:59] <_Spire_> faintofhearts: did it work?
[05:59] <Daelan> lol
[05:59] <Daelan> I like pi
[05:59] <Daelan> pi is the coolest
[05:59] <midgetg0at> microwave shake 'n back or toaster oven....
[05:59] <wyld> pi to the 1000000 place is 7
[05:59] <Daelan> 3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993751058209749445923078164062862089986280348253421170679
[05:59] <Daelan>   8214808651328230664709384460955058223172535940812848111745028410270193852110555964462294895493038196
[05:59] <Daelan>   4428810975665933446128475648233786783165271201909145648566923460348610454326648213393607260249141273
[05:59] <Daelan>   7245870066063155881748815209209628292540917153643678925903600113305305488204665213841469519415116094
[05:59] <Daelan>   3305727036575959195309218611738193261179310511854807446237996274956735188575272489122793818301194912
[05:59] <Daelan>   9833673362440656643086021394946395224737190702179860943702770539217176293176752384674818467669405132
[05:59] <aa> Daelan  8 8 6
[05:59] <aa> Daelan  8 8 6
[05:59] <aa> Daelan  8 8 6
[05:59] <aa> Daelan  8 8 6
[06:00] <vox754> !search spam
[06:00] <ubotu> Found: etiquette,nickspam,hostmask
[06:00] <Ashton_K> Question.
[06:00] <vox754> !etiquette
[06:00] <ubotu> Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam, !AskTheBot - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[06:00] <midgetg0at> I think you're confusing us w/ the mathematically curious.
[06:00] <_JECKEL_> I don't understand how that could happen
[06:00] <eightball> daelan had too much pi :-/
[06:00] <wyld> !paste
[06:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:00] <_JECKEL_> apparently my router seems to have denied the existance of my desktop yet still lets it connect to the internet
[06:00] <Daelan> I can never get enough pi
[06:00] <Daelan> 3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993751058209749445923078164062862089986280348253421170679
[06:00] <Daelan>   8214808651328230664709384460955058223172535940812848111745028410270193852110555964462294895493038196
[06:00] <Daelan>   4428810975665933446128475648233786783165271201909145648566923460348610454326648213393607260249141273
[06:00] <Daelan>   7245870066063155881748815209209628292540917153643678925903600113305305488204665213841469519415116094
[06:00] <Daelan>   3305727036575959195309218611738193261179310511854807446237996274956735188575272489122793818301194912
[06:00] <aa> Daelan  8 8 6
[06:00] <aa> Daelan  8 8 6
[06:00] <aa> Daelan  8 8 6
[06:00] <aa> Daelan  8 8 6
[06:00] <kitche> !ops
[06:00] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!
[06:00] <BlueEagle> !flood
[06:00] <vox754> !NickSpam
[06:00] <ubotu> You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages (see !Away for more details): use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently
[06:00] <eightball> your service provider can :P
[06:01] <bucky> aa is a bot
[06:01] <_JECKEL_> eightball talking to me?
[06:01] <wyld> How do I add programs to a start-up menu?
[06:01] <eightball> _JECKEL_, : no
[06:01] <wastrel> i should shrink my root partition and increase my home partition 100%
[06:01] <Ashton_K> Can anyone explain to me why, when the NetGear WG311T card uses the Atheros chipset, and the madwifi comes in the restricted-modules packet (installed), why doesn't it recognize my wireless card?
[06:01] <wyld> kick daelan
[06:01] <wyld> someone
[06:01] <wyld> thanks
[06:02] <wyld> is there a way to make programs start up automatically? If so, how?
[06:03] <vox754> !search start-up
[06:03] <ubotu> Found: usplash
[06:03] <vox754> !search start
[06:03] <ubotu> Found: kidding,xgl-#ubuntu-xgl,gdm-#ubuntu-xgl,startup-#ubuntu-xgl,firewall,startup,upstart,boot,gconf-#ubuntu-xgl,usplash
[06:03] <vox754> !startup
[06:03] <ubotu> To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[06:03] <Ashton_K> !search madwifi
[06:03] <ubotu> Found: madwifi
[06:03] <vox754> !cron
[06:03] <ubotu> cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[06:03] <wyld> vox754: thanks
[06:04] <marshall> asd
[06:04] <midgetg0at> vmware server install: in which directory do you want to install the binary files....??
[06:04] <midgetg0at> um...vmware....
[06:04] <GreyGhost> am i correct in belieing that .pl files are shell scripts like Win .bat files? that means if i just run it in the console and i'm done?
[06:05] <petafile> How do I use the vga out on my laptop to show the output on an external monitor?
[06:05] <marshall> does anybody know what happened to ubuntu-offtopic?
[06:05] <wastrel> .pl files are perl
[06:05] <vox754> !search pl
[06:05] <ubotu> Found: code,gr,kdeincludes,alternatives,totem,kde docs,themes,ge,browsers,scp
[06:05] <petafile> seems like I may have to mess with xorg.conf :(
[06:05] <PirateHead>  /usr/local/bin, maybe?
[06:05] <bucky> http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_vmware_server
[06:05] <vox754> !pearl
[06:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pearl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:05] <Lam_> i need a terminal command that will traverse into every directory recursively and chown each file/directory
[06:05] <midgetg0at> heh, yea, i'm just noobing it up, guess i'll just put it in my user dir.
[06:05] <_JECKEL_> sooooo.../etc/init.d/ sshd start is how you get an ssh server running?
[06:05] <_JECKEL_> then why is it not working for me? :\
[06:05] <vox754> !perl
[06:05] <ubotu> perl: Larry Wall's Practical Extraction and Report Language. In component main, is important. Version 5.8.8-6 (edgy), package size 3287 kB, installed size 11436 kB
[06:06] <trinkolade> Lam_, chown -r, see man chown
[06:06] <_JECKEL_> !ssh
[06:06] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[06:06] <bucky> /etc/init.d/ssh start
[06:06] <Lam_> trinkolade:  oh cool. didn't know you could do that. thanks
[06:06] <trinkolade> Lam_, chown -R
[06:06] <petafile> is there a way to switch between my laptop panel and an external monitor?
[06:06] <vox754> !chown
[06:06] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:06] <_JECKEL_> ok
[06:06] <trinkolade> Lam_, but take a look at the manpage "man chown"
[06:07] <mneptok> Lam_: -R is recursive and -r is remove read bit
[06:07] <_JECKEL_> hmmm
[06:07] <PORDO> i need help getting my mic to work.  my chenming SFF box has a mic input on front and back.  i don't know which to try.  it has ICH5
[06:07] <GreyGhost> nope its an install.pl install script all right... and will be run out a console then...
[06:07] <mneptok> Lam_: just be careful with -R-x
[06:07] <wastrel> chown -R can break your system good so be careful where you point it
[06:07] <_JECKEL_> lol ok..I jumped up from .2 to .4 lol
[06:08] <mneptok> Lam_: (and you want chmod, not chown)
[06:08] <midgetg0at> VMWare Server Install: What is the directory that contains the init directories (rc0.d/ to rc6.d/)?
[06:08] <Lam_> mneptok: why chmod?
[06:08] <wastrel> chmod -R , sry.  either one can break you :] 
[06:08] <mneptok> Lam_: are you looking to change owner, or permissions?
[06:08] <vox754> !search chmod
[06:08] <ubotu> Found: chmod
[06:08] <bucky> midgetg0at, http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_vmware_server
[06:08] <wastrel> ubunto
[06:08] <vox754> !chmod
[06:08] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[06:09] <Lam_> mneptok: owner.
[06:09] <midgetg0at> think i foudn it, just had to run a locate...just dont want to make a wrong stemp
[06:09] <mneptok> Lam_: then you want chown
[06:09] <midgetg0at> *step, i'm already recovering from a botched install.
[06:09] <Lam_> mneptok: ok good lol
[06:09] <noodles12> !ati
[06:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:09] <midgetg0at> bucky: good find, ty
[06:10] <Ricardo> hello everbody
[06:10] <midgetg0at> is there any way to roll back an install that is already started so i can answer the questions again?
[06:10] <timo901> cant any one help me with seting up xine for dvb-t
[06:10] <timo901> scan -x0 -t1 -s1 /usr/share/dvb-utils/scan
[06:11] <Ricardo> im going
[06:11] <Ricardo> cya
[06:11] <hackit_error> Ok i am using ubuntu and can i hack a windows user
[06:11] <mneptok> midgetg0at: most install screens offer a "go back" option
[06:11] <midgetg0at> this is through term
[06:11] <tritium> midgetg0at: you can re-answer the quesitons by runing "sudo dpkg-reconfigure <package-name>"
[06:11] <tritium> questions even
[06:11] <midgetg0at> gotcha, thanks.
[06:11] <tritium> s/runing/running
[06:11] <hackit_error> CAN I HACK A WINDOWS USER USING UNBUNTU
[06:11] <feross> anyone use ubuntu server lts? I just noticed that syslog is not rotating therefore sucking up the whole /var/ partition. Anyone else seen this before. It should be rotated with the /etc/cron.daily/syslogd script but obviously something is not working... going to google it now.
[06:12] <timo901>  hackit_error:ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhahha
[06:12] <hackit_error> lol
[06:12] <vox754> !caps
[06:12] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[06:12] <hackit_error> Ok
[06:12] <hackit_error> Sorry
[06:12] <timo901> lol
[06:12] <hackit_error> Is it possible
[06:12] <timo901> yes
[06:12] <hackit_error> ok can you teach me
[06:12] <tritium> hackit_error: that's really not an appropriate question or use of ubuntu
[06:12] <timo901> but no one is going to tell you here
[06:12] <hackit_error> where do i need to go
[06:12] <ttothez> Is there a way to uninstall Ubuntu+Grub without the admin password/Microsoft Xp disk?
[06:13] <trinkolade> hackit_error, you have to install the windows-hack-tools trought synaptic
[06:13] <mneptok> hackit_error: first? finish middle school.
[06:13] <whimsical> hackit_error, you can hack a windows user using os x, windows, ubuntu, your mother's buntu, etc, etc
[06:13] <timo901> why hack use you time constructivly
[06:13] <whimsical> it is not OS dependent
[06:13] <whimsical> so stop aasking dumb quesions
[06:13] <tritium> hackit_error: consider it offtopic here
[06:14] <mneptok> ttothez: boot to Windows and run "fdisk /mbr" from a command prompt. that will overwrite GRUB with the NT bootloader.
[06:14] <midgetg0at> bah, something bad happened.
[06:14] <ttothez> ok, thanks
[06:14] <ttothez> i'll be back
[06:14] <midgetg0at> "Unable to find the answer INITSCRIPTSDIR in the installer database (/etc/vmware/locations). You may want to re-install VMware Server. Execution abored.
[06:14] <hackit_error> i cant find windows hack tools there
[06:14] <Gunny> Does anyone know if r1000 drivers work in Edgy 64bit?
[06:14] <ski-worklap> is there a way to tell from the cmdline if my network card has a cable in it?
[06:14] <Gunny> I had em working in 32 bit, but they refuse to talk to the network in 64bit
[06:14] <tritium> hackit_error: I told you, it's offtopic.  Stop asking about it.
[06:14] <vox754> !offtopic
[06:14] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:14] <hackit_error> lol no
[06:15] <ttothez> Command promp as in CMD right?
[06:15] <ttothez> prompt*
[06:15] <mneptok> ttothez: correct
[06:15] <ttothez> i get fdisk is not recongnized as an internal or external application
[06:15] <hackit_error> Ok so how do i do it and if you dont know where do i go
[06:16] <ttothez> command*
[06:16] <tritium> hackit_error: last warning
[06:16] <ski-worklap> i see a way to SET the media type of an interface, but not a way to just ask what it is, which seems silly
[06:16] <hackit_error> or what
[06:16] <mneptok> ttothez: oh, MS must have removed or disabled it in XP. i don't use Windows, so ...
[06:16] <ttothez> yeah =\
[06:16] <chimaera> hey ppl... i have edgy on my laptop nvidia8400go sometimes when i minimize/maximize windows i get a black screen
[06:17] <timo901> chimaera:do you have stuf like xgl
[06:17] <midgetg0at> grrr, how do i uninstall an aborted install of vmware server....
[06:17] <chimaera> timo901: im using xgl and beryl
[06:17] <midgetg0at> i cant remove it, uninstaller doesnt work, and i cant reinstall over it....
[06:17] <Gunny> hackit_error: If you don't know where to go, you shouldn't be asking the question. GO away
[06:17] <chimaera> timo901: im running the nvidia drivers from lupine's repos
[06:17] <tritium> Gunny: too late.  I removed him.
[06:18] <timo901> Yeh it could be down to that
[06:18] <Gunny> Oh, so you did, good man
[06:18] <Dorrinal> Hello, I'm having some trouble with USB after installing ubuntu.
[06:18] <chimaera> timo901: u mean a problem with xgl?
[06:18] <dgm> ROFL
[06:18] <dint> !xgl
[06:18] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:18] <Gunny> !r1000
[06:18] <timo901> no, more likely you drivers
[06:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about r1000 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:19] <chimaera> timo901: ok thnx i'll try older ones
[06:19] <chimaera> is automatix safe?
[06:19] <dint> could I use a 3D Desktop in Gnome, I use 6.06 Lts.
[06:19] <tritium> chimaera: it's not advised, no
[06:19] <PORDO> i'm trying to find out whether my microphone inputs are even being registered by alsa.  how can i tell?
[06:19] <chimaera> ok
[06:19] <timo901> Dorrinal:what you mean by problems what are the symptoms
[06:20] <Dorrinal> It won't detect any devices (mouse, wlan, etc)
[06:20] <Dorrinal> I have this gut feeling I'm screwed as there is no /proc/bus/usb
[06:20] <chimaera> is there a quick way to get all the common codecs music and video
[06:20] <timo901> ermmm.ever worked before , like inwindows
[06:20] <binarydigit> Dorrinal: are the usb modules loaded
[06:20] <chimaera> like klite codec pack for windows
[06:20] <Dorrinal> timo901: yes, worked in windows
[06:21] <timo901> and can i know the mobo name see if its a known isude in google
[06:21] <timo901> issue*
[06:21] <Dorrinal> binarydigit: I believe so.  How can I double-check?
[06:22] <Dorrinal> Sorry don't have the mobo name atm.
[06:22] <wastrel> is there a nice gui tool that lets me see where all my disk space is getting eaten up?
[06:22] <binarydigit> Dorrinal: lsmod
[06:22] <tritium> chimaera: yes, and it's documented in your help system
[06:23] <tritium> !codecs > chimaera
[06:23] <chimaera> !codecs
[06:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:23] <chimaera> !!
[06:23] <binarydigit> wastrel: baobab
[06:23] <timo901> he shouldn't have to load them its all done default,im guesing the usb worked on the live cd
[06:23] <chimaera> !codecs > chimaera
[06:24] <chimaera> !codecs < chimaera
[06:24] <wastrel> thx binarydigit
[06:24] <levander> What's the name of the new package that's supposed to add graphics capabilities to GNOME?
[06:24] <binarydigit> levander: what do you mean graphics capabilites
[06:25] <levander> binarydigit: It's called like beryl or something like that.
[06:25] <Dorrinal> binarydigit: Thanks.  I don't see a usb module in that list.  Where do I go to install that module?
[06:25] <levander> binarydigit: it adds 3d effects to the desktop
[06:26] <Dorrinal> (what specifically is the module named?  usb?)
[06:26] <binarydigit> levander: beryl
[06:26] <levander> binarydigit: "apt-cache search beryl" shows up nothing on my machine
[06:26] <Phuzion> I have an MP4 file encoded with x264 video, anyone got a suggestion on what program and codecs to install to play it?
[06:26] <binarydigit> levander: #beryl
[06:26] <h3xis> Phuzion, vlc
[06:26] <binarydigit> Dorrinal: modprobe usbcore
[06:26] <NyanNyanKoneko> levander, you need to add the beryl repositories to /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:26] <madman91> where can i learn the basics of both client and server ssh procedure... ?
[06:27] <Phuzion> h3xis: just apt-get install vlc>?
[06:27] <h3xis> yes
[06:27] <Phuzion> thanks
[06:27] <timo901> mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbkey
[06:27] <levander> NyanNyanKoneko: cool, i'll check the wiki to see if it says anything about those repositories
[06:27] <timo901> try that
[06:27] <timo901> at own risk
[06:27] <NyanNyanKoneko> Levander hold on.
[06:27] <Dorrinal> binarydigit: that seems to have worked.  I can now see /proc/bus/usb
[06:27] <NyanNyanKoneko> http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/dists/edgy/beryl-svn/
[06:28] <binarydigit> nice!
[06:28] <Dorrinal> Ok now should I need to perform any acrobatics to get it to reckonize these devices?
[06:28] <levander> Only the nv driver is in the ubuntu repositories, not the nvidia driver?
[06:28] <xion> anytime i use the sudo apt-get command it always comes back E: Couldn't find package
[06:29] <xion> anyone know how to fix that?
[06:29] <h3xis> check your sources.list?
[06:29] <Ashton_K> Anyone know what package the "wlanconfig" command comes in?
[06:30] <Ashton_K> Looks like I need it for my wifi card setup, but the shell doesn't recognize the command.
[06:31] <h3xis> Ashton_K, try wireless-tools
[06:31] <binarydigit> Dorrinal: you may need to load some additional modules
[06:31] <chimaera> how do i remove mounted devices icon from my desktop?
[06:31] <Ashton_K> Righteo, thanks.
[06:31] <xion> ill try that , i think i forgot to add it to sources
[06:33] <madman91> can you run a gui under ssh ?
[06:33] <h3xis> yes
[06:33] <madman91> thanks h3xis
[06:33] <h3xis> madman91, i think it's like X11 forwarding?
[06:33] <h3xis> been a while
[06:33] <madman91> yea
[06:33] <Dorrinal> binarydigit: Depending on the specific devices?
[06:33] <binarydigit> Dorrinal: yea
[06:33] <madman91> i want to setup a makeshift proxy with my computer at home
[06:33] <madman91> with ssh
[06:34] <NyanNyanKoneko> ssh <username>@ip
[06:34] <NyanNyanKoneko> As long as you have an ssh server installed, that's all you should have to do.
[06:34] <chimaera> how do i remove mounted devices icon from my desktop?
[06:34] <madman91> NyanNyanKoneko: well.. what about putty?
[06:34] <madman91> NyanNyanKoneko: the computers at school are winxp
[06:34] <Dorrinal> I'm most concerned about my wireless card.  It's supposed to work without any wrestling, so I'll cross my fingers...
[06:35] <NyanNyanKoneko> Putty works too.
[06:35] <mikedoty> I knew it
[06:35] <mikedoty> There's like a thousand of y'all in here
[06:35] <NyanNyanKoneko> I've never used Putty, but it shouldn't be difficult to enter your SSH information.
[06:35] <h3xis> chimaera, in your gnome menu, look for "configuration editor" and get back to me
[06:35] <madman91> NyanNyanKoneko: will a little window pop up with X and all my gnome goodness?
[06:36] <NyanNyanKoneko> No, it'll be a command promt.
[06:36] <madman91> NyanNyanKoneko: how can i make it a gui?
[06:36] <chimaera> h3xis: ok im in
[06:37] <NyanNyanKoneko> madman91: vino
[06:37] <madman91> NyanNyanKoneko: what is vino
[06:37] <NyanNyanKoneko> http://gnomejournal.org/article/29/remote-desktop-administration-using-vino
[06:37] <h3xis> chimaera, open "apps", then "nautilus" then "desktop" then on the right uncheck the box that says "volumes visible"
[06:38] <floating> Does a program run smoother if I move it to ~/bin/sfa  as it says in readme, that would "find it "useful" ? Problem is that the program is lagging a lot when I run it
[06:38] <chimaera> h3xis: wow thnx! btw do u know how to remove applications places system from the panel?
[06:38] <NyanNyanKoneko> madman91: Just go to system -> preferences -> remote desktop.
[06:38] <madman91> NyanNyanKoneko: thanks
[06:38] <NyanNyanKoneko> n/p.
[06:38] <dagnachew> hello all
[06:39] <Dorrinal> Hello dagnachew
[06:39] <h3xis> chimaera, right click on them and click "remove from panel". then right click on the panel again and click "add to panel" and from there find "gnome menu" or something and it'll just give you the foot
[06:39] <dagnachew> please does anyone had issues with kernel 2.6.19 and nvidia ?
[06:39] <dagnachew> hello Dorrinal
[06:40] <chimaera> h3xis: works! thnx again
[06:40] <emun> what is the best application for watching tv on ubuntu, I have ATI tuner card
[06:41] <h3xis> emun, mythtv?
[06:41] <NyanNyanKoneko> I think tvtime is another good one.
[06:42] <NyanNyanKoneko> And it's more suited toward watching TV on a PC as opposed to setting up a media center.
[06:42] <sandeep> is there anyway to increase download speed
[06:42] <emun> thanks h3xis where can I get mythtv please
[06:42] <h3xis> emun, idk, never used it. google search should help
[06:42] <wastrel> !mythtv
[06:42] <ubotu> MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[06:43] <NyanNyanKoneko> emun: Look for a myth tv setup guide on the Ubuntu forum.  It's notoriously difficult to get working the first time.  :)
[06:43] <Dorrinal> binarydigit: is there a list of modules somewhere I can browse?
[06:44] <NyanNyanKoneko> Dorrinal: system -> administration -> Synaptic Package Manager
[06:44] <Dorrinal> Heh.  duh.
[06:45] <Ashton_K> Possible bug?
[06:45] <Ashton_K> Looks like Linux-Restricted-Modules installed in 6.10 without some dependencies in my edgy install (fresh).
[06:46] <Ashton_K> (No internet available on the Edgy box), I reloaded the CD into synaptic, removed the restricted modules, and tried to reinstall them.
[06:46] <Ashton_K> And it gave me an unresolveable dependancies error.
[06:46] <Ashton_K> Competing packages, or glitch in the installer?
[06:46] <emun> thanks guys Iwill give it a try , and also tvtime will be back soon
[06:47] <NyanNyanKoneko> Ashton_K: Running Ubuntu without Internet access is like running a car without tires.  :P
[06:47] <Ashton_K> True.
[06:47] <Ashton_K> But I'm trying to setup my wireless card.
[06:47] <Ashton_K> :P
[06:48] <Ashton_K> I need madwifi, which is in the restricted-modules.
[06:48] <NyanNyanKoneko> You can download the deb to a disk.
[06:48] <Ashton_K> But, just using the CD alone (which installed it the first time), it tells me I can't install it.
[06:48] <Ashton_K> Unresolveable dependencies.
[06:48] <btrento> hey does anyone here use gkrellm and if so could maybe answer a question for me please?
[06:48] <Max_-> How can I change the keymap??? on a server ubuntu 6.10 fresh installation
[06:48] <Ashton_K> Sounds like a problem to me, if it installed the first time, and it turned out it didn't have everything I needed.
[06:48] <Ashton_K> Damn, I knew where that file was, once.
[06:49] <Ashton_K> Somewhere in /etc/init.d/keymap?
[06:49] <NyanNyanKoneko> Hmm...  There's no ethernet port on your computer?
[06:49] <h3xis> btrento, i do
[06:49] <Ashton_K> keyboard-setup, close.
[06:49] <Ashton_K> There's an ethernet port, I'm upstairs though.
[06:49] <Ashton_K> Router is downstairs.
[06:49] <Ashton_K> (In case you're wondering, I have 2 boxes, and a KVM switch. I'm using box 1 with wireless)
[06:49] <btrento> h3xis: Do you use gnome?
[06:50] <h3xis> yes.
[06:50] <lori> can anyone help me configure built in wireless on a Presario v4000? I have just installed Ubuntu 6.10
[06:50] <Ashton_K> I've figured out how I'm gonna do this tomorrow (I think), but I'm intrigued why the CD tells me it doesn't have everything to install restricted-modules.
[06:50] <NyanNyanKoneko> if you have a laptop, you can plug your ethernet cable into your laptop's ethernet port and share your laptop's wireless connection to your PC.
[06:50] <Ashton_K> PC.
[06:50] <Ashton_K> I'm gonna haul it down to the router tomorrow.
[06:50] <h3xis> lori, possibly. is it recognized by ubuntu out of the box?
[06:51] <lori> yep, but wireless hardware button doesnt work
[06:51] <Ashton_K> Lori, what chipset does that use?
[06:51] <NyanNyanKoneko> Ashton_K, probably because there's some library it needs off the internet.  I don't know.  :)
[06:51] <Ashton_K> Well.
[06:51] <btrento> h3xis: This might be a stupid question but do you know of a way to keep it from minimizing when hitting the show desktop
[06:51] <Ashton_K> It shouldn't need libraries off the internet, if it installed off the disc the first time.
[06:51] <Ashton_K> That's the point
[06:51] <Ashton_K> I can fix it, tomorrow.
[06:51] <Ashton_K> I'm just pointing out the flaw in the installer.
[06:51] <rebecca> hey peoples. my azureus keeps getting the error message "Disk read error, NullPointerException" showing in the status of each torrent. the torrents do work for a while until this happens and they halt downloading. anyone else had this prob?
[06:51] <lori> total noob question: how do i find out what chipset im using?
[06:51] <NyanNyanKoneko> Ashton, I understand.  It's just goofy.  It's Linux after all.
[06:52] <Ashton_K> Google your wifi card.
[06:52] <Ashton_K> Indeed Nyan.
[06:52] <lori> k
[06:52] <Ashton_K> If you're lucky, it'll be Atheros or ACX-100
[06:52] <dxdt> hello everyone
[06:52] <h3xis> btrento, under configuration, there's a section on "stay on top" and stuff. does that work?
[06:52] <Ashton_K> (Altough ACX is easier on Gentoo, just "emerge acx")
[06:52] <btrento> h3xis: no not in gnome in kde it does
[06:52] <h3xis> btrento, it does in mine and im on gnome
[06:53] <Ashton_K> Anyone here know if Gentoo has a channel on this server?
[06:53] <h3xis> btrento, Configuration > General > Properties
[06:53] <h3xis> Ashton_K, #gentoo
[06:53] <Ashton_K> Ah, screw that, that's a headache I'll postpone until tomorrow, now that I think about it.
[06:53] <Ashton_K> 1 AM is a bad time to deal with a source based distribution.
[06:53] <vanberge> anybody know a quick/easy way to play rmvb files?  thanks in advance...
[06:53] <NyanNyanKoneko> Ashton_K, I think there are some distros that are more liberal with the binary drivers.
[06:54] <midgetg0at> Installing XP via VMware server :)
[06:54] <lori> ntel PRO/Wireless 2200 802.11BG WLAN is what it says on the compaq site.
[06:54] <midgetg0at> i'd love to rid myself of two machines...my other box is so loud.
[06:54] <NyanNyanKoneko> Mandriva one comes to mind, as well as some pastry OS from Italy...  I forget its name.  :P
[06:54] <lori> I'm still trying to find a "chipset" for this laptop. (compaq presario v4310nr)
[06:54] <Ashton_K> Nyan, true, but I want a crash course in "What the hell is going on in there?"
[06:54] <btrento> g3xis: ok i have stick state,set on top, do not include on pager and do not include on taskbar, What do you have different
[06:54] <Ashton_K> And if crash turns out to be literal, so be it.
[06:54] <h3xis> lori, your chipset is ipw2200
[06:55] <NyanNyanKoneko> hahaha, OK.
[06:55] <Ashton_K> The Ubuntu box is for a business.
[06:55] <Ashton_K> Linux computing solutions for those fed up with Windows.
[06:55] <Ashton_K> (Was gonna be openSUSE, but it'd violate the EULA)
[06:55] <lori> thanks h3xis. :) now how do i get my built in wireless to work?
[06:55] <h3xis> lori, it should already work
[06:56] <NyanNyanKoneko> Yeah, Ubuntu might be a little difficult for first time users, but as long as you're doing all the administering, it should be fine.  :)
[06:56] <Ashton_K> System > Administration > Networking
[06:56] <lori> you are right, it does work, ish. heh. the wireless hardware light doesnt come on when i'm using wlan
[06:56] <h3xis> btrento, same stuff
[06:56] <Ashton_K> Well, I'm in charge of setting up the computers.
[06:56] <h3xis> btrento, if none of that works, then there's nothing else you can do
[06:56] <Ashton_K> Software, drivers, etc.
[06:56] <Ashton_K> My dad's doing networking, and some RAID stuff.
[06:56] <Ashton_K> I also build the machines.
[06:56] <wastrel> business eh
[06:56] <Ashton_K> This is our first test platform.
[06:56] <h3xis> lori, so it works, just no light?
[06:56] <luke_> Does anyone know how new kernel packages are automatically installed on ubuntu via apt-get? each package is a new package, but 'apt-get upgrade' only upgrades existing packages, so why do new kernels get installed?
[06:57] <btrento> h3xis: and yours does not minimize when you hit the show desktop, wierd
[06:57] <lori> h3xis: yes
[06:57] <h3xis> btrento, i dont use show desktop ;)
[06:57] <h3xis> lori, not sure about that :/ let me check google
[06:57] <Ashton_K> lori, the wireless light isn't directly connected to the antenna on the same circuit.
[06:57] <lori> h3xis, thanks for any input you might have.
[06:57] <wastrel> luke_:  there's a metapackage called linux-image-generic that is updated, and depends on the current kernel
[06:57] <Ashton_K> It's on a separate circuit, normally windows fires that LED everytime a big packet comes through.
[06:58] <Ashton_K> Linux doesn't know it's there, but at very least it can find the antenna, which is slightly more important.
[06:58] <wastrel> or more generally, linux-image-[architecture] 
[06:58] <lori> Ashton_K, do you think there's any way that this wireless LED will work on my ubuntu side? (dual booting here)
[06:58] <btrento> h3xis: Thanks for your help, i guess i will just have to live with it.  Not a big deal though
[06:58] <Ashton_K> No clue.
[06:59] <bcstv> Numbers do not work when in num lock but work when numlock off. How do I reverse this?
[06:59] <h3xis> lori, your other LEDs work right?
[06:59] <Ashton_K> To be honest, that'd probably require a modification of the wireless driver.
[06:59] <Ashton_K> Since it'd talk through the same socket (or whatever).
[06:59] <lori> h3xis, yes, all other led's work just fine out of the box
[07:00] <luke_> wastrel: yeah, but every kernel-image-X.XX.XX-XXX package is a *new* package, and all the doco i can find on apt-get says that only 'apt-get dist-upgrade' will install new packages...
[07:00] <lori> interesting.  I'm a complete noob and i admit it. so working out a mod for my driver will take me some time. :D
[07:00] <h3xis> lori
[07:00] <h3xis> try this
[07:00] <h3xis> sudo echo "options ipw2200 led=1" >> /etc/modprobe.d/ipw2200.modprobe
[07:00] <lori> K, i'm all ears.
[07:00] <h3xis> give that a go, and then reboot
[07:00] <Ashton_K> Oh, the driver includes the led, lucky you.
[07:00] <Ashton_K> :P
[07:00] <h3xis> or reload the driver
[07:00] <NyanNyanKoneko> So what does everyone think about Windows being more secure than Linux?  http://www.itweb.co.za/sections/computing/2004/0411031104.asp
[07:00] <Ashton_K> Or restart networking.
[07:00] <NyanNyanKoneko> Is it a joke or what?
[07:01] <h3xis> ive never had a problem with windows and security :P
[07:01] <surface_> NyanNyanKoneko, is it a joke?
[07:01] <Max_-> ehmm there's something to do with that keyboard-setup script???..   I don't see how to use it to get my keymap as CF
[07:01] <Ashton_K> I've never been hacked.
[07:01] <wastrel> luke_:  what happens is the linux-image-generic package is an existing package on your system, and is updated to depend on the new kernel.  to resolve this dependency for the existing linux-image-generic package, the new kernel is installed.
[07:01] <Ashton_K> Never had a problem with viruses.
[07:01] <Ashton_K> Just crashing.
[07:01] <Ashton_K> It isn't acceptable that a Windows application (Word), crashes while running on Windows.
[07:01] <chimaera> wats linux-restricted-modules for
[07:01] <surface_> security is not an issues for windows, but windows user
[07:02] <Ashton_K> They're modules made by other people.
[07:02] <Ashton_K> Included by their permission.
[07:02] <chimaera> k
[07:02] <Ashton_K> But if you wanna change them, you have to go talk to the different teams that made them.
[07:02] <lori> h3xis, i ran that command in a terminal, got a "permission denied". so i logged in as root and then ran command.  nothing seemed to happen.  Is that to be expected?
[07:02] <A-L-P-H-A_> what's the command in the shell to give me the current linux kernel version?
[07:02] <Ashton_K> Like, the nVidia driver is in there, along with Madwifi, etc.
[07:02] <Ashton_K> uname -r
[07:02] <h3xis> lori, yes
[07:02] <Crescendo_> sox: Can't open output file '/dev/dsp': Device or resource busy - How can I make it so anything can access sound, no matter what?
[07:02] <A-L-P-H-A_> Ashton_K, thanks.
[07:02] <lori> k
[07:02] <surface_> A-L-P-H-A_, uname -a
[07:02] <h3xis> lori, now restart networking
[07:02] <h3xis> and see if it works
[07:03] <Ashton_K> try /etc/init.d/networking restart
[07:03] <Ashton_K> That should do it.
[07:03] <lori> h3xis, is there a command that'll allow me to restart without having to lost this connection?
[07:03] <h3xis> nope
[07:03] <Ashton_K> See above.
[07:03] <h3xis> do as Ashton_K said
[07:03] <lori> (rblarg
[07:03] <lori> k, restarting ;)
[07:03] <luke_> wastrel: ahhh ok, it's starting to make sense now.. thnx
[07:04] <Ashton_K> Man, this case is nice. But... It's big as hell. Lugging it downstairs isn't fun.
[07:04] <Ashton_K> But compared to screwless PCI, and drive mounting, I think it was worth it.
[07:04] <midgetg0at> yea, body bags do get quite heavy
[07:04] <fiveiron> can any of you guys see this video stream:  http://aarondunlap.homeip.net:8080  ?
[07:04] <chimaera> how do i treat my ipod as a harddisk, and how do i copy movies into my ipod
[07:04] <lori> i just disabled wireless and reenabled. h3xis, should that be enough to see a change?
[07:04] <chimaera> can amarok do it?
[07:05] <h3xis> chimaera, can you mount it?
[07:05] <h3xis> lori, yes
[07:05] <chimaera> yes i can mount it
[07:05] <wastrel> night
[07:05] <lori> i dont see me little blue light. *sniff*
[07:05] <h3xis> chimaera, then that's treating it as a hard drive
[07:05] <chimaera> h3xis: ooo ok
[07:06] <h3xis> lori, try this: rmmod ipw2200 then when it's done with that do modprobe ipw2200 all as root. you will lose your connection too
[07:06] <Ashton_K> Nyan, I think the issue is.
[07:06] <Ashton_K> That Linux, due to the fast rate of development.
[07:06] <Ashton_K> Is actually full of holes.
[07:06] <CientificoLoco> hello, how do I get a graphic interfase for stp ?
[07:06] <Ashton_K> They change a lot though.
[07:06] <Ashton_K> So keeping track of holes, is hard.
[07:07] <h3xis> CientificoLoco, stp?
[07:07] <CientificoLoco> hello, how do I get a graphic interfase for sftp ?
[07:07] <Ashton_K> And if you look at an even number of assaults on all 4 OS's, while ignoring the percentage assaults each get, you'll get skewed results.
[07:07] <Ashton_K> Basically, they should fire their statistician.
[07:07] <lori> OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!H3xis you're a genius!!!! *kiss*
[07:07] <h3xis> :)
[07:08] <roler> I have a slight issue playing DVD's in Edgy. Using MPlayer, the video is ever so slightly jumping - it goes in bursts. Using gxine, the video is complete smooth, but after a while, the sound is not in sync with the video... What can I do for either of these players?
[07:08] <lori> *dances* You dont know how long I've been wrestling with this issue. (sigh)
[07:08] <h3xis> haha. youre lucky. this is my first time here and you caught me at the right time
[07:08] <corin> CientificoLoco, i believe that gftp will handle the sftp protocol, although i could be wrong
[07:08] <h3xis> i decided to chill here for a while. i run debian myself and got bored :P
[07:08] <lori> I have more than my fair share of luck, its true.  :)
[07:09] <lori> yay!
[07:09] <Ashton_K> Lucky indeed.
[07:09] <Ashton_K> Hardware support has always been the bane of Linux.
[07:09] <midgetg0at> i've never seen an install of xp go so smooth & fast, vmware is magic :)
[07:09] <Ashton_K> Roler, what video card?
[07:09] <lori> ah, debian was the precursor to ubuntu, wasnt it?
[07:09] <h3xis> yes
[07:09] <Ashton_K> No, Debian is still out there.
[07:09] <Ashton_K> We're just closely related.
[07:09] <lori> :)
[07:10] <lori> thanks for your support too, Ashton_K.  I love god-like support techs.
[07:10] <Ashton_K> :P
[07:10] <roler> Ashton_K, Intel 950GMA. Pretty new laptop, Core Duo 1.6 gig
[07:10] <Ashton_K> You're welcome (although I'm just a high schooler whose up too late)
[07:10] <lori> I'm soooooo stoked, if you can't tell.
[07:10] <orestyle9> I loved the presentation for Ubuntu at OSCON 2006... Very nice!
[07:10] <h3xis> haha lori, any other problems?
[07:10] <lori> i loved ubuntu from the very start, but being a noob slowed my progress a tad.
[07:10] <Ashton_K> What kinda chipset is in that Roler, ATI, nVidia, or other?
[07:11] <Ashton_K> Linux is harder to get used to.
[07:11] <roler> Ashton_K, Intel 945
[07:11] <Ashton_K> Linux can break, but the nice thing, is if it breaks, you know that it's due to something you did.
[07:11] <lori> hmm, lemme think.  I have xgl beryl installed... i think i fixed that stuff on my own.
[07:11] <Ashton_K> Hrm, check the forums and see if there are any packages with modules you can use.
[07:11] <midgetg0at> whats beryl? Eye candy?
[07:11] <lori> I broke my first ubuntu install, lol.  had to reload.
[07:11] <Ashton_K> 2 boxes for me.
[07:11] <midgetg0at> i've broken several lori...dont feel bad.
[07:11] <lori> it was all my own fault tho. :)
[07:11] <Ashton_K> First one is half windows, half Gentoo.
[07:12] <corin> midgetg0at, beryl is the lovechild of compiz, and yes, it's secksi eyecandy
[07:12] <Ashton_K> (Gamer)
[07:12] <lori> k, i wont.
[07:12] <Ashton_K> The other box is all Ubuntu.
[07:12] <h3xis> iv eonly used one release of ubuntu and it was warty
[07:12] <Ashton_K> I've used Dapper and Edgy.
[07:12] <midgetg0at> ok - wasnt sure. I installed xgl compiz stuff a while back....is beryl stable?
[07:12] <Ashton_K> I need to fix my Gentoo partition though.
[07:12] <orestyle9> That the fun.  Try try again with the install..
[07:12] <lori> how did you like warty, h3xis?
[07:12] <Ashton_K> Midget, depends which version you're using.
[07:12] <h3xis> lori, no. that's why dont use ubuntu ;)
[07:12] <h3xis> i*
[07:12] <syte> is 6.0.10 buggy?
[07:13] <CientificoLoco> corin, ... it cant connect tieh the server..
[07:13] <midgetg0at> no, beryl
[07:13] <Ashton_K> The installer is, a *tiny* bit.
[07:13] <Crescendo_> sox: Can't open output file '/dev/dsp': Device or resource busy - How can I make it so anything can access sound, no matter what?
[07:13] <corin> i don't think beryl is stable, but it runs fine on all the machines i've had it on...it depends on version...or like Ashton_K said :)
[07:13] <midgetg0at> compiz used to crash x on me. so i stopped using it.
[07:13] <orestyle9> I am currently using Kubuntu with small issues, but nothing major
[07:13] <corin> CientificoLoco, what exactly is it saying?
[07:13] <Ashton_K> Add that user to teh sound group.
[07:13] <syte> because the loader dosent show me the processes that are turning on by default
[07:13] <NyanNyanKoneko> Beryl is OK, but it seems to not handle video very well, which is why I turn it off with any graphics-intensive application is being used.
[07:13] <syte> nor does the loading bar load completely
[07:13] <lori> midgetg0at, yes, beryl is the most awesomestest eye candy ever.
[07:14] <NyanNyanKoneko> Now if we could just port Beryl to FreeBSD...  yom...
[07:14] <lori> i love 3d jive.
[07:14] <Ashton_K> *googles*
[07:14] <midgetg0at> ;) i've used compiz, just wanna know if it's stable :)
[07:14] <Max_-> ... what's the command to change the keymap ?
[07:14] <syte> anyone else having problems with 6.0.10 and the loading screen?
[07:14] <Ashton_K> It's not a command.
[07:14] <Ashton_K> See /etc/init.d
[07:14] <NyanNyanKoneko> I did with the 64 bit version.
[07:14] <Ashton_K> There's something in there like "keymaps"
[07:14] <corin> midget, compiz was stable, then they split the codebase to beryl...i do believe the newest complete version (non SVN) is stable enough to use
[07:14] <Ashton_K> Or whatever.
[07:15] <Ashton_K> Nano it.
[07:15] <h3xis> Max_-, run dpkg-reconfigure console-data
[07:15] <Max_-> yeah, I saw your little script.. but it does NOTHING
[07:15] <NyanNyanKoneko> I installed the 32 bit version and the loading screen was OK.
[07:15] <Max_-> h3xis thanks
[07:15] <Ashton_K> One of these days I need to see if I can configure the extended keys on my keyboard.
[07:15] <orestyle9> Have you noticed if beryl is cpu intensive?  Does it run smooth on slower machines?
[07:15] <lori> h3xis, i have just remembered another issue this laptop seems to have.
[07:15] <Max_-> not installed... damn
[07:16] <syte> i installed themes on 6.0.6 (no loading screen themes). Could this have possibly affected my loading screen for 6.0.10?
[07:16] <h3xis> lori, ?
[07:16] <Ashton_K> Depends whether you have 2d/3d hardware acceleration for your card I'd imagine.
[07:16] <lori> the hibernate feature doesnt seem to work when i close laptop lid.
[07:16] <h3xis> Max_-, better install then :P
[07:16] <NyanNyanKoneko> orestyle: It depends on what effects you have active.
[07:16] <Flannel> orestyle9: you might try asking in #ubuntu-xgl, or #beryl (or even #xgl).
[07:16] <Ashton_K> (Always buy nVidia, they release drivers for us)
[07:16] <lori> (i have tried to configure it, but changes made dont seem to stay.)
[07:16] <h3xis> lori, check that under Preferences > Power Management in gnome, i think
[07:16] <Flannel> syte: did you install the themes for 6.06 (no second period) through package management? or what?
[07:16] <corin> i have beryl running on an old 333mhz machine with a Ti4200 (i believe), and it runs pretty well
[07:16] <orestyle9> wow, there is even a channel for beryl...  sweet
[07:17] <Ashton_K> There's a channel for everything.
[07:17] <syte> the gnome art website
[07:17] <Ashton_K> This is freenode, sounds kinda like an open source catch phrase doesn't it?
[07:17] <Ashton_K> There's probably free-BSD and open-BSD channels in here.
[07:17] <linlin> anyone know of a vista-like sidebar for linux?
[07:17] <orestyle9> I have a 500 mhz with 512  and running kubuntu is a little slow, but it works.  Hope I can at least try out beryl
[07:17] <Flannel> syte: then yes, it's most likely still there, and still affecting 6.10 (which also has no middle 0)
[07:17] <lori> i have toggled the changes in gnome before.  I may have to spend some time on the hibernate problem now that my pretty blue wireless light is on. *silly grin*
[07:17] <midgetg0at> eek orestyle9, that sounds like the making of a Beryl hater
[07:18] <h3xis> alright
[07:18] <corin> they should change it to openfreenode or opennode to complete the open source-esque naming scheme
[07:18] <Flannel> linlin: You'd have to describe "vista like sidebar", since most of us haven't used/seen vista
[07:18] <linlin> oh ok
[07:18] <syte> so i  might as well take this theme off
[07:18] <CientificoLoco> hello, how do I get a graphic interfase for sftp ?
[07:18] <syte> thx
[07:18] <orestyle9> too much for my machine?
[07:18] <linlin> well its a bar...on the side of the screen, similar to widgets or whatever for mac os
[07:18] <Ashton_K> Flannel, a dock bar.
[07:18] <h3xis> freenode used to be called the open projects network
[07:18] <corin> CientificoLoco, does gftp not work? if not, what error does it give?
[07:18] <midgetg0at> I would think it would be...those are some pretty low specs.
[07:18] <linlin> where you can load little modules and stuff like weather, news, whatever
[07:19] <Ashton_K> I wonder if Objectbar by Stardock has a Linux variant?
[07:19] <corin> linlin, gdesklets is what you want i think
[07:19] <lori> h3xis &Ashton_nK, thanks for your knowledge!  I'm gonna play on the internet now *hug*
[07:19] <Flannel> linlin: ah, yeah.  There's... plenty.  Been around for a while.  gDesklets is one.  for KDE there's superkaramba (or something like that), and many more
[07:19] <h3xis> good luck
[07:19] <dxdt> what is gdesklets?
[07:19] <Ashton_K> Program.
[07:19] <dxdt> I've always been kinda curious about that
[07:19] <Ashton_K> Sounds like a widget program.
[07:19] <lori> thanks :)
[07:19] <dlainhart> apt-get install gdesklets
[07:19] <fromvega> hello
[07:19] <orestyle9> linlin:  there are some cool widgets for opera that you might be interested in...
[07:19] <corin> dxdt, a widget management program
[07:19] <NyanNyanKoneko> Hey, if I wanted to update the zsnes deb in the repositories, how would one go about helping out in that manor?
[07:19] <fuoxx> hi
[07:19] <corin> like OS X's dashboard
[07:19] <Ashton_K> (Tempted to try and code something similar to the Yahoo widgets engine, that'll accept .widget files)
[07:19] <dxdt> corin, is there a good number of widgets or is it pretty meh
[07:20] <dlainhart> Nyan:
[07:20] <Flannel> NyanNyanKoneko: is it in universe? or main?
[07:20] <Ashton_K> On my windows partition (ducks), I have object bar.
[07:20] <dlainhart> get the source for the deb package
[07:20] <NyanNyanKoneko> Universe, I believe.
[07:20] <Ashton_K> Tabbed taskbar anyone? Yes please.
[07:20] <dlainhart> e.g. apt-get source zsnes
[07:20] <corin> dxdt, it's got a good user base...i have been able to find whatever i need and evidently it's not too hard to just make your own if you should need to
[07:20] <dlainhart> next, you
[07:20] <dxdt> corin, cool, I'll check it out
[07:20] <fromvega> how do I make changes in the ip_forward file permanent so it remains the same after a reboot?
[07:20] <dlainhart> want to take a look at the debian/ directory in the extracted package source directory
[07:20] <dlainhart> fromvega: sysctl.conf
[07:20] <spikeb> Ashton_K: there already is something similar to the yahoo widgets engine being worked on
[07:20] <Ashton_K> Take away everyone's write capability for it.
[07:20] <dxdt> fromvega, like in iptables?
[07:21] <Ashton_K> Cooll.
[07:21] <dlainhart> I'm assuming you're doing something like echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ip_forward
[07:21] <dlainhart> or whatever
[07:21] <Ashton_K> Will it support yahoo widgets?
[07:21] <dxdt> you need sudo iptables-save
[07:21] <spikeb> Ashton_K: yes
[07:21] <Ashton_K> Or is that some closed format, or whatever?
[07:21] <Ashton_K> COol.
[07:21] <Flannel> NyanNyanKoneko: actally, it's in multiverse.  No idea why.  Could be there's no source, could be other issues.
[07:21] <Ashton_K> I've got about 8 of those things on my windows desktop, I want identical functionality on my Linux desktop.
[07:21] <Flannel> NyanNyanKoneko: if it's the former, you probably can't do much except file bug reports with the original author
[07:21] <spikeb> Ashton_K: the project is called jackfield, i have no idea how far along it is.
[07:21] <corin> aren't yahoo .widget files just a mashup of images, javascript, and XML (or some other parsed language?)
[07:21] <Ashton_K> (I'll probably have to copy any DLLs they refer to though, oh well)
[07:21] <dlainhart> dxdt: Will iptables-save actually do that? As far as I figured it just saved the IP tables.
[07:21] <Ashton_K> XML and .js
[07:21] <Ashton_K> Plus images.
[07:21] <fromvega> dlainhart: tks
[07:21] <spikeb> Ashton_K: http://www.kryogenix.org/code/jackfield/introduction
[07:22] <Ashton_K> .widget is actually just a .zip file renamed.
[07:22] <dlainhart> IP forwarding is a switch in /proc
[07:22] <fromvega> dxdt: kind of
[07:22] <nceterval> I've been having problems getting dm-crypt partitions mounted at boot after installing edgy and I think I may have stumbled upon the problem: /etc/init.d/cryptdisks seems to be incomplete (looks almost empty, no mention of "crypttab").  Could anyone show me a working example?
[07:22] <Flannel> Ashton_K: superkaramba is the basis for "yahoo widgets" if I remember correctly, and are compatable.
[07:22] <NyanNyanKoneko> Oh, OK.
[07:22] <Ashton_K> Too bad I have gnome.
[07:22] <Ashton_K> :P
[07:22] <NyanNyanKoneko> Thank you.  :)
[07:22] <spikeb> yeah jackfield is for gnome, and nowhere near primetime i'd suspect heh
[07:22] <Flannel> Ashton_K: gdesklets is probably similar.  I've never really used it (not having gnome, or kde).  You might try checking it's website.
[07:23] <orestyle9> I've been looking for something to help me with my Adult Body Mass....
[07:23] <dlainhart> If you want to update or create Debian packages, you'll want to have experience building packages from source, and specifically, experience with makefiles.
[07:23] <fromvega> Do you know any site with samples of squid.conf?
[07:23] <Ashton_K> Wonder if Jackfield is stable  yet.
[07:23] <dlainhart> Debian packages are built with standard makefiles.
[07:23] <spikeb> gdesklets is similar, sure, but it's not actually compatible heh, whereas jackfield will be
[07:23] <spikeb> Ashton_K: apparently not
[07:23] <NyanNyanKoneko> orestyle9: Try Stepmania.
[07:23] <spikeb> ah well.
[07:23] <NyanNyanKoneko> You'll lose weight like crazy.
[07:23] <Ashton_K> I don't have a partition of Linux that I can call "mine", this Ubuntu distro is not mine to ruin, or whatever.
[07:23] <Ashton_K> So no unstable releases for this box.
[07:24] <Lam_> what's the terminal command to check to see how much space i have on my partition? (or just general hard drive status)
[07:24] <dlainhart> df
[07:24] <corin> Nyan, Stepmania? the finger one?
[07:24] <nceterval> Can anyone help me with this dm-crypt problem?  It's been bugging me all day.
[07:24] <spikeb> Ashton_K: haha, good idea that.
[07:24] <Ashton_K> Once I get Gentoo up, I might emerge KDE and try super karamba, or gnome and jackfield.
[07:24] <Flannel> Ashton_K: you *can* install superkaramba on a gnome box.  Nothing saying you can't.
[07:24] <noodles12> where do i save bash scripts to run?
[07:24] <orestyle9> NyanNyanKoneko:  I am all over that..  :)
[07:24] <Ashton_K> Well, this box isn't mine to do that kinda stuff to.
[07:24] <NyanNyanKoneko> Stepmania can use dance pads.  They also have a good linux port.  :)
[07:24] <h3xis> noodles12, wherever you want :P
[07:24] <Ashton_K> This box will be for sale, or at least serious testing.
[07:24] <Ashton_K> Not my own personal use and pleasure.
[07:24] <dlainhart> noodles12: what do you mean? are you talking about the system path?
[07:24] <NyanNyanKoneko> The Linux Kernel also has built in support for DDR Pads.
[07:24] <Flannel> Ashton_K: sounds like you couldn't install anything on it, so you're out of luck anyway.
[07:25] <spikeb> Ashton_K: looks like gdesklets will also support yahoo widgets in the next major version.
[07:25] <Rageagainstthis> need a little assistance.  I need to enable a user to write to a mounted samba share.
[07:25] <Ashton_K> Well, I can install anything that I think the customers will want.
[07:25] <Ashton_K> :P
[07:25] <h3xis> NyanNyanKoneko, what's it called in the kernel config?
[07:25] <NyanNyanKoneko> I personally run stepmania in Windows though.  :P
[07:25] <Ashton_K> First priority is getting stuff in order, drivers, etc.
[07:25] <corin> yeah, i run it in windows too
[07:25] <dlainhart> h3xis: It's somewhere in either joysticks or USB devices
[07:25] <NyanNyanKoneko> I have no idea.  I think xpad is for the x-box DDR pad conversion.
[07:25] <Ashton_K> My own computer is for experimentation.
[07:25] <Ashton_K> (Once I fix grub)
[07:25] <h3xis> ah, never noticed it and i just built a kernel this morning :P
[07:25] <noodles12> dlainhart: i wrote this bash script. and it won't run. so i thought i had to save it to a particular folder to get it to work
[07:25] <h3xis> noodles12, how are you running it
[07:26] <dlainhart> noodles12: nope
[07:26] <dlainhart> does it start with #!/bin/bash?
[07:26] <dlainhart> if not that's your first problem
[07:26] <Ashton_K> Beat me to it.
[07:26] <noodles12> yea it starts w/ #!/bin/bash
[07:26] <dlainhart> (if it doesn't you can still run it with 'bash /path/to/script.sh' of course)
[07:26] <Ashton_K> Wonder if I'll get more ram for christmas.
[07:26] <dlainhart> is it chmod'd +x?
[07:26] <Ashton_K> I want more.
[07:26] <Ashton_K> :P
[07:26] <noodles12> i just saved it to my home folder
[07:27] <h3xis> noodles12, how are you running it
[07:27] <noodles12> dlainhart: oh... >.<
[07:27] <Ashton_K> Probably just clicking on it.
[07:27] <noodles12> h3xis:  i was just typing the name of the file to try adn run it
[07:27] <dlainhart> ah
[07:27] <h3xis> ah
[07:27] <h3xis> there you go
[07:27] <dlainhart> That only works if the executable bit is set :-)
[07:28] <Ashton_K> And if you're in the right directory, too.
[07:28] <Ashton_K> (Unless if you refer to the whole path)
[07:28] <dlainhart> Ashton_K: that's only if . is in $PATH
[07:29] <dlainhart> the standard $PATH is /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin, so it still won't work.
[07:29] <noodles12> ok i made it executable and i ran teh script and it says command not found still. i am in my home folder where the file is
[07:29] <dlainhart> noodles12: This isn't DOS. :-)
[07:29] <dlainhart> try ./name_of_script.sh
[07:29] <dlainhart> instead of name_of_script.sh
[07:29] <noodles12> dlainhart: that worked.
[07:29] <Ashton_K> ./ operater is a good thing to use a lot.
[07:29] <dlainhart> It's not really an operator
[07:29] <Ashton_K> It'll save your ass when you use a distro that demands it.
[07:30] <Ashton_K> Well, for lack of proper terminology, it's an operator.
[07:30] <dlainhart> '.' just refers to the current directory. Same thing in DOS.
[07:30] <Ashton_K> Shh.
[07:30] <Ashton_K> My point stands.
[07:30] <Shadow_mil> how can I install cinelerra?
[07:30] <dlainhart> Hahaha.
[07:30] <Ashton_K> Go and steal my moment, why don't you?
[07:30] <Shadow_mil> I downloaded the source... but when I try to configure it...
[07:30] <Ashton_K> :P
[07:30] <Shadow_mil> o wait.. I need something lol
[07:30] <Shadow_mil> nvm
[07:31] <FirstStrike> =\
[07:31] <Ashton_K> There are no proper analogies to compare that situation to.
[07:31] <h3xis> slackware <3
[07:31] <FirstStrike> My first distro was Mandrake..before it became Mandriva
[07:31] <Ashton_K> I'm tempted to try LOAF.
[07:31] <noodles12> dlainhart: alright i was wondering how come i had to do ./filename isntead of just the filename if it is set ax an executbale already? but someone else's script runs with just the name of the file?
[07:31] <Ashton_K> Just, for the heck of it.
[07:31] <dlainhart> noodles12: By default, the current directory isn't in the executable path.
[07:31] <corin> My first was Red Hat 6.2...and i still hate it as much today as i did then
[07:31] <Ashton_K> Ubuntu was first for me, then Kubuntu, Xubuntu, openSUSE, rPath (ew), Gentoo....
[07:31] <dlainhart> when you type a command, the shell looks for the command in the $PATH
[07:31] <FirstStrike> Mandrake kinda sucked too
[07:32] <dlainhart> Mandrake was neat but it was unstable as all hell
[07:32] <Ashton_K> rPath is bad, stay away.
[07:32] <Ashton_K> I could not, for the life of me, find a kernel source or tree.
[07:32] <jbroome> what?
[07:32] <FirstStrike> Kubuntu and Xubuntu are essentially the same thing..just different dm's
[07:32] <dlainhart> I've never heard of rPath.
[07:32] <Ashton_K> It's new.
[07:32] <noodles12> dlainhart: ooh i see. thanks
[07:32] <Ashton_K> Made by some ex red hat guys.
[07:32] <h3xis> haha
[07:32] <h3xis> i know a guy who works for rpath
[07:32] <corin> rPath is a funny name ;)
[07:32] <Ashton_K> Think of it of as a bad mix between red hat and Gentoo.
[07:32] <dlainhart> Heh
[07:32] <dlainhart> When I hear the word "rpath" I think about dynamic libraries.
[07:32] <h3xis> he swears by it and its hideous package manager
[07:32] <Ashton_K> I couldn't for the life of me, find a kernel source, even when following the commands they told me.
[07:33] <Ashton_K> The problem is it's designed to use their arbitrary rBuilder, ONLY.
[07:33] <dlainhart> noodles12: This is as opposed to DOS, which automatically prepends the current directory to the path.
[07:33] <Ashton_K> If you try and compile anything else, you're SCREWED, because there is no traditional kernel source or tree.
[07:33] <dlainhart> If you want the same behavior, you can always add "." to the $PATH
[07:33] <corin> a proprietary builder? how far do they wanna go with that?
[07:33] <Ashton_K> It's buried somewhere, or something.
[07:33] <Ashton_K> They claim it's a multi use builder for user environments, packages, etc.
[07:33] <dlainhart> However, it's probably a good idea to get used to ./blah.sh for many reasons
[07:34] <Ashton_K> Safer.
[07:34] <dlainhart> adding the current directory to the PATH can be insecure, if you think about it
[07:34] <dlainhart> if you still want to do it you can but neckbearded UNIX zealots will flame you for it
[07:34] <Ashton_K> Yeah, well.
[07:34] <dlainhart> second, no unix environment I've ever seen is set to do that by default
[07:34] <Ashton_K> Unix users will go on holy wars for very light reasons.
[07:34] <h3xis> neckbearded unix zealots
[07:34] <h3xis> omg you mean teh RMS??!?!
[07:35] <dlainhart> That's because they can't get laid.
[07:35] <Flannel> !offtopic
[07:35] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:35] <Ashton_K> Shh.
[07:35] <Ashton_K> :P
[07:35] <dlainhart> RMS may be a pain in the ass and a total zealot but he deserves respect and he's good to have around.
[07:35] <Ashton_K> I like this KVM switcher, hit scroll lock twice to switch.
[07:35] <Ashton_K> Hooray.
[07:35] <h3xis> dlainhart, i concur
[07:36] <Ashton_K> Never met him.
[07:36] <dlainhart> And he did write Emacs.
[07:36] <h3xis> and hurd, lawl
[07:36] <dlainhart> Ashton_K: http://www.stallman.org/
[07:36] <spikeb> heh my bud jake has a KVM and his keypress is like eight keys to switch
[07:36] <Ashton_K> Unix zealots are dangerous, and possibly annoying. But handy, because they tend to be knowleable.
[07:36] <dlainhart> You mean GNU/Hurd?
[07:36] <corin> Ashton, which KVM are you using?
[07:36] <h3xis> yeah...
[07:36] <dlainhart> Ashton_K: Agreed. You just gotta keep them submissive.
[07:36] <Ashton_K> It's by IO gear.
[07:36] <PORDO> can someone help me access my mic input on my ICH5?
[07:36] <Ashton_K> Uhhh.
[07:36] <Ashton_K> Hold on.
[07:36] <spikeb> you can have your very own virtual RMS, just install vrms
[07:37] <spikeb> yes, it is in the repo
[07:37] <dlainhart> Once they start powertripping they're impossible to deal with.
[07:37] <Ashton_K> lol, ew.
[07:37] <h3xis> is hurd still in dev?
[07:37] <Ashton_K> "Support the Green Party"
[07:37] <dlainhart> Case in point: Theo de Raadt
[07:37] <Ashton_K> Politics, on a comp site, ew.
[07:37] <avalon> If I'm trying to find out what /dev/bus/usb/00whatever my USB device is plugged into, how could I do that knowing it's plugged into usb 1-2: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 6
[07:37] <spikeb> free software is inherently political.
[07:37] <dlainhart> Yeah, Hurd's supposedly still in development.
[07:37] <h3xis> "supposedly"
[07:37] <spikeb> yes, hurd is still plodding along.
[07:38] <dlainhart> Hurd is a neat idea.
[07:38] <dlainhart> I'll run it when it's useful enough
[07:38] <h3xis> it'll release when duke nukem forever does
[07:38] <Flannel> guys, please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:38] <spikeb> avalon: try typing lsusb
[07:38] <dlainhart> avalon: Is there something like lspci for USB? If so that's probably your ticket
[07:38] <Ashton_K> dlainhart: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817107407
[07:38] <dlainhart> thanks spikeb
[07:38] <spikeb> dlainhart: you bet
[07:38] <mdasilva> Hello
[07:39] <raxip> Hello
[07:39] <Ashton_K> PS2 only, so you'll lose extra buttons on your multi-button mouse, if applicable.
[07:39] <Ashton_K> But, $20, so.
[07:39] <Ashton_K> The scroll lock thing is SO much better than reaching for an actual switch.
[07:39] <avalon> There's a lsusb, but it just outputs the same Bus 001 Device 006: ID 1391:1000 style. I  need to find out specifically the /dev name it's under. Its the format I need to make an entry into the xorg with
[07:40] <Ashton_K> (My dad's KVM is dying, the connections are weak, so the monitor flickers different colors, like if you slowly pull out the cable)
[07:40] <dlainhart> avalon: what kind of device is it?
[07:40] <raxip> good
[07:40] <mdasilva> you tell me
[07:40] <dlainhart> I know USB joysticks go into /dev/input/
[07:40] <spikeb> avalon: 006, i would think
[07:40] <dlainhart> at least if I remember right
[07:40] <Ashton_K> The trick is getting all those extra buttons to work.
[07:40] <dlainhart> In the end it's a udev thing
[07:41] <avalon> It's a USB connection to my touchscreen monitor.
[07:41] <Ashton_K> The answer is, learn C++, write a driver....
[07:41] <Ashton_K> Ooh.
[07:41] <dlainhart> C++?
[07:41] <corin> evil C++
[07:41] <dlainhart> What kind of psychopath writes drivers in C++?
[07:41] <chimaera> i have eth0 and lo.. wats lo
[07:41] <h3xis> loopback interface
[07:41] <dlainhart> C is all you need
[07:41] <corin> lo = loopback
[07:41] <Ashton_K> True.
[07:41] <corin> for testing and the like
[07:41] <chimaera> ok
[07:41] <Ashton_K> But C++ by nature includes C.
[07:41] <dlainhart> Ashton_K: Not technically ;-)
[07:41] <Ashton_K> If you know C++, you know C.
[07:41] <dxdt> yeah but  C++ isn't good for things like drivers
[07:41] <dlainhart> It's technically <i>not</i> a strict superset
[07:42] <Ashton_K> Just be sure you don't refer to some syntax that doesn't exist.
[07:42] <spikeb> and if you know objective-c, go help gnustep
[07:42] <dlainhart> Ashton_K: That's not true either.
[07:42] <Ashton_K> Yes, yes, I know.
[07:42] <dxdt> general rule is that C for low level, C++ for bigger stuff
[07:42] <Ashton_K> :P
[07:42] <Ashton_K> Don't use object, be careful with the syntax.
[07:42] <dlainhart> If you're an OOP or generics dweeb and you get thrown into C you'll write a *lot* of terrible code.
[07:42] <Ashton_K> But, they're very close.
[07:42] <jbroome> !offtopic | Ashton_K dlainhart
[07:42] <ubotu> Ashton_K dlainhart: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:42] <Ashton_K> Closer than say, C and VB.
[07:42] <Ashton_K> Man, you guys are strict about that, all right.
[07:42] <dlainhart> I'll continue this in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:42] <jbroome> excellent idea!
[07:43] <Ashton_K> I'm sticking around here, touchscreens is something I'm interested in.
[07:43] <Ashton_K> (Possible linux for a Palm V)
[07:43] <dxdt> how the hell do I connect to a printer in Ubuntu?  it keeps throwing an authentication required error, but seriously, there isn't a password.  I just did this from a win machine.  ARg.
[07:43] <dlainhart> A network printer?
[07:43] <Ashton_K> HP printers generally work.
[07:43] <dxdt> yeah
[07:43] <chimaera> how can i install intel 3945ABG wireless drivers? the instructions from intel seems impossible
[07:43] <midgetg0at> then you need to create a pass dxdt
[07:43] <h3xis> chimaera, theyre built in
[07:43] <dlainhart> ndiswrapper's probably your best bet
[07:43] <dlainhart> I don't know wireless, I'm a dinosaur
[07:44] <h3xis> i have a 3945
[07:44] <avalon> Good luck Ashton_K. I've been trying for six days to get Ubuntu to see the thing, much less accept it. Touchscreens plus Ubuntu equals no. I challenge someone to correct me there with an Aspen.
[07:44] <Ashton_K> I dunno dude, a LOT of wifi cards are supported on Ubuntu now.
[07:44] <midgetg0at> or just create a windows user w/ a password that you'll only use for your printer.
[07:44] <chimaera> h3xis: how do i enable my wireless if the drivers are built in? im on edgy
[07:44] <midgetg0at> mine still isnt :(
[07:44] <dxdt> yeah I thought they were built in too
[07:44] <dlainhart> I still use a CRT, my mouse has a ball, and my other computer runs DOS 6.22
[07:44] <Ashton_K> Most likely, I'll be using something besides Ubuntu.
[07:44] <midgetg0at> ouch dlain :)
[07:44] <chimaera> h3xis: netwokring dun show my wireless
[07:44] <Ashton_K> Ubuntu is too large for a palm Vx.
[07:44] <Ashton_K> It'll be a custom kernel.
[07:44] <h3xis> chimaera, it's built in. i am sure of it. when i tested it out on my tpad it was there
[07:44] <avalon> Hope your luck goes better than mine my friend.
[07:44] <h3xis> it should already be there
[07:44] <Ashton_K> Flashed to the ROM, and I'll have to write touchscreen support, and text recognition.
[07:45] <chimaera> h3xis: ok let me have a peek
[07:45] <h3xis> check iwconfig
[07:45] <dlainhart> AFAIK Linux's lacking in wireless drivers
[07:45] <h3xis> yes
[07:45] <h3xis> esp in the atheros dept
[07:45] <dlainhart> because the hardware's all proprietary and poorly-documented
[07:45] <Ashton_K> Ubuntu is the best at wireless drivers, so far.
[07:45] <dlainhart> ndiswrapper is a nice workaround
[07:46] <Ashton_K> Patchy at best though.
[07:46] <dlainhart> NDIS is a standard interface for network drivers (it's quite old)
[07:46] <corin> Ubuntu is by far the best, but it's still not there all the way...it's the vendors, they don't want to write linux drivers for a windows-dominated market
[07:46] <Ashton_K> And donating source code is not a possibility.
[07:46] <Ashton_K> :P
[07:46] <corin> hah, yeah
[07:46] <Ashton_K> The only solution, we need to plant moles!
[07:46] <spikeb> there is one company that makes well supported cards though
[07:46] <dlainhart> ndiswrapper is basically a way to use Windows drivers on Linux. There's lots of tutorials out there.
[07:46] <bun> could some one please tell me how to install new devices on ubuntu?
[07:46] <dxdt> the intel wireless drivers are there by default though.  Mine worked out of the box
[07:46] <Ashton_K> chimaera, try lsmod | grep orinoco
[07:46] <corin> bun, what devices?
[07:47] <dlainhart> bun: install new devices? like what?
[07:47] <Ashton_K> Output anything?
[07:47] <avalon> That's why I'm going to find someone who knows what  they're doing an pay them to write me a driver. :)
[07:47] <chimaera> iwconfig shows a wireless eth1.. does that mean its working?
[07:47] <h3xis> yes
[07:47] <bun> a usb dongle
[07:47] <dxdt> chimaera, yes
[07:47] <h3xis> that's it
[07:47] <Ashton_K> Configure it
[07:47] <dlainhart> bun: what does it do?
[07:47] <dlainhart> try discover
[07:47] <chimaera> lsmod | grep orinoco doesnt do anything
[07:47] <corin> dongle? like a flash drive, or something that enables software?
[07:47] <dlainhart> I think there's something called usbmgr that automatically handles insmodding new USB devices
[07:47] <h3xis> chimaera, switch over to it in network-manager-gnome
[07:47] <dxdt> chimaera, ignore the orinoco thing.  That's not for you.
[07:47] <Ashton_K> iwconfig eth1 essid "id" enc "off or encryption key here, include s: if it's ASCII" channel "channel number" etc.
[07:47] <bun> one plugs into the computer running windows which connects directly to the internet, i have ubuntu on my laptop and want to share the internet connection between this and the laptop
[07:48] <Ashton_K> Well, it was for him, if it weren't for the fact that orinoco is working for him.
[07:48] <Ashton_K> :P
[07:48] <corin> a wireless usb dongle?
[07:48] <bun> mhmm
[07:48] <corin> ouch...who makes it?
[07:48] <chimaera> ok
[07:48] <bun> when i plug it in nothing happens
[07:48] <Ashton_K> Well, one is windows, and the other is Linux.
[07:48] <Ashton_K> This might be interesting.
[07:49] <Jakkaru> can someone give me a hand? trying to install ubuntu but cant get to the GUI. fails and says "no screens found" dpkg-reconfigure autodetects my hardware perfectly but nothing i try works. anyone got a suggestion?
[07:49] <Ashton_K> That might require something Windows side also, maybe?
[07:49] <Ashton_K> Nvidia card?
[07:49] <Ashton_K> or ATI?
[07:49] <avalon> I swear.. why doesn't Ubuntu have a nice little window that tells you what's plugged into what, or at least what hardware it sees?
[07:49] <corin> jakkaru, maybe sync ranges in your X11 conf file are off?
[07:49] <Jakkaru> ati card
[07:49] <Ashton_K> Herm.
[07:49] <seanzer> avalon: it's called lspci
[07:49] <Ashton_K> Where's the x11 config file again?
[07:49] <seanzer> avalon: it's amazing
[07:49] <cafuego_> avalon: xterm -e lspci
[07:49] <Jakkaru> im pretty sure the sync is right
[07:49] <spikeb> it's in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:49] <Ashton_K> And what driver will I need to tell him to put in there?
[07:50] <dxdt> chimaera, do you have a normal internet connection with this machine by chance?  I would STRONGLY suggest installing the NetworkManager program that is different than the built in one but in my opinion works much better.  Gives you a little signal strangth icon in your tray, etc.  WIll auto reconnect. things like that
[07:50] <spikeb> fglrx, but that's not installed out of the box.
[07:50] <Ashton_K> Do you have internet installed Jakkaru?
[07:50] <Jakkaru> yea
[07:50] <seanzer> ...
[07:50] <Ashton_K> Is this box wired in? Or wireless?
[07:50] <spikeb> Jakkaru: so you're still in the trying to install stage?
[07:50] <Ashton_K> Because you're doing this text only.
[07:50] <Jakkaru> wired
[07:50] <Ashton_K> Next time you boot, you're gonna have to use the -nox option.
[07:50] <avalon> If that's what's all plugged into my system, it's missing USB touchscreen completely
[07:50] <Jakkaru> not even installing. cant even boot the live cd to the gui
[07:50] <chimaera> dxdt yea i have wire connection for that.. let me grab that thnx
[07:51] <Ashton_K> Did you try the "Safe graphics mode"?
[07:51] <Jakkaru> yup same problem
[07:51] <spikeb> Jakkaru: you should use the alternate cd, install with that, then install/setup the ATI drivers.
[07:51] <Ashton_K> Or -nox
[07:51] <corin> i would try -nox and see what your xorg.conf file looks like
[07:51] <Jakkaru> where do i add the -nox?
[07:51] <Ashton_K> I dunno what kinda packages fglrx is in.
[07:52] <Ashton_K> Boot option at the beginning.
[07:52] <Jakkaru> ok
[07:52] <Ashton_K> I believe he'd type Ubuntu -nox
[07:52] <Ashton_K> Right?
[07:52] <Jakkaru> ill try it now
[07:52] <Ashton_K> Beware, this is going to be text only.
[07:52] <spikeb> Jakkaru: i can give you a link to how to set up the ati drivers if you wish
[07:52] <avalon> Hmm..... .
[07:52] <Ashton_K> Yeah, you'll have to boot text only, install flgrx, add it to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, then type "startx"
[07:52] <Ashton_K> Should we just write the poor man a script?
[07:52] <Jakkaru> lol
[07:53] <seanzer> why not use the generic vga drivers
[07:53] <seanzer> boot into x
[07:53] <seanzer> then play with the conf
[07:53] <spikeb> Jakkaru: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[07:53] <Ashton_K> vga didn't work.
[07:53] <Ashton_K> he needs flgrx.
[07:53] <fromvega> Where are the squid logs located?
[07:53] <midgetg0at> nano isnt that scary....
[07:53] <Jakkaru> could this have anything to do with me using the DVI port?
[07:53] <spikeb> Jakkaru: theoretically, but i doubt it
[07:53] <seanzer> if generic video drivers didn't work, i highly doubt flgrx is going to work either
[07:53] <avalon> Just to confirm.. there's no touchscreen in here is there? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38476/
[07:53] <seanzer> nano is hideous, use vim
[07:53] <spikeb> seanzer: of course it will :P
[07:53] <Ashton_K> flgrx is ATI specific, I believe.
[07:53] <Ashton_K> So they tell me.
[07:54] <seanzer> yea, it is...
[07:54] <Ashton_K> Nano is bad? Used vi lately?
[07:54] <avalon> vim is no fun. VI for the old scool :)
[07:54] <Jakkaru> touch screen? one mine? no
[07:54] <corin> vim ftw
[07:54] <Ashton_K> Someone else had touch screen.
[07:54] <seanzer> but any card should be able to work under generic drivers
[07:54] <seanzer> just no dri
[07:54] <midgetg0at> heh, i think nano is fine...but then again, i dont spend hours in it.
[07:54] <seanzer> i know because i have a radeon sitting right here
[07:54] <Ashton_K> I do.
[07:54] <seanzer> and i can switch the driver out
[07:54] <spikeb> seanzer: that's not true of many ati and nvidia cards though
[07:54] <avalon> No no Jakkaru, I was just asking to see if someone else saw my touchscreen in the pasted text. I'm hoping I'm blind.
[07:54] <Ashton_K> Hrm.
[07:54] <Ashton_K> Maybe it's an issue with the monitor type.
[07:54] <Ashton_K> LCD or CRT?
[07:54] <Jakkaru> ohy lol ok
[07:55] <dxdt> yes it is made by ATI. And there are some things of hardware that will not work at all without ATI.  This is one of the reasons for the big debate about the inclusion of the proprietary ati and nvidia drivers in the next version  of ubuntu.  Including them would allow compatibility with those people who are stuck until they do get the fglrx, etc.  I'm not sure his card is one of those, but those problems do exist.
[07:55] <Jakkaru> LCD widescreen
[07:55] <Jakkaru> just got it.
[07:55] <Ashton_K> Oh.
[07:55] <Ashton_K> Won't he have to change the xorg.conf file to reflect that?
[07:55] <Jakkaru> ok im at the prompt
[07:55] <seanzer> well, there are alawys the open source ati drivers
[07:55] <seanzer> that blow chunks
[07:55] <spikeb> heh
[07:56] <Ashton_K> Will the xorg.conf file need to be changed? He has a LCD.
[07:56] <spikeb> they're not so bad for the supported 3d cards, in my opinion. fglrx isn't exactly great.
[07:56] <seanzer> but what do i know, i haven't seen his error message :(
[07:56] <corin> any open source chow on proprietary drivers are bound to have lots of problems
[07:56] <Ashton_K> Send him through -nox.
[07:56] <Ashton_K> Then have him startx.
[07:56] <Ashton_K> And tells us what goes wrong.
[07:56] <corin> try running gdm instead of startx?
[07:56] <Jakkaru> im looki at the log now
[07:57] <avalon> Hmm.. no open source drivers for aspen.. good lord knows they need them .The ones they provided me to compile are so old they won't even work.
[07:57] <Ashton_K> Well, if it's having problems with the monitor, startx will tell us.
[07:57] <linlin> any free modernbill like applications
[07:57] <linlin> ?
[07:57] <Jakkaru> gdm didnt seem to do anything... didnt say it wasnt a comand. but didnt do anything.
[07:57] <Ashton_K> Quicken kinda stuff?
[07:57] <chimaera> i installed networkmanager and frontend from spm.. how do i run it?
[07:57] <Ashton_K> It's not a command.
[07:57] <ChevronX> Is there a gameboy advanced emulator for Linux, if so how can I install it??
[07:57] <cge> Is there a way to kill a specific connection being routed through nat? Setting up iptables to DROP doesn't seem to work, since the connection is already established.
[07:57] <spikeb> ChevronX: yes. virtualboyadvance and its front-end vbaexpress
[07:57] <Jakkaru> Fatal IO error 104
[07:58] <avalon> OMG my same error Jakkaru
[07:58] <seanzer> you guys are making ripples go all over my screen
[07:58] <Jakkaru> heh
[07:58] <ChevronX> Thanks
[07:58] <Jakkaru> so we got the same problem avalon?
[07:58] <chimaera> i installed networkmanager and frontend from spm.. how do i run it?
[07:58] <seanzer> cge: you can use netstat to find the program and kill it
[07:58] <spikeb> ChevronX: both are in the repositories, in universe i believe. :)
[07:58] <cge> seanzer: thanks
[07:58] <seanzer> cge: or restart the network interface
[07:58] <dxdt> chimaera, I would go to System >> Preferences >> Sessions  then go to the startup program command and add nm-applet --sm-disable
[07:58] <Crescendo_> sox: Can't open output file '/dev/dsp': Device or resource busy - How can I make it so anything can access sound, no matter what?
[07:58] <ChevronX> Oh ok
[07:58] <pegs> hey all, while on the topic of ati and console login.. i have a problem after some recent updates.. i can no longer use the console to start x... i have to use the gui login...
[07:58] <h3xis> chimaera, install network-manager-gnome, too. then run nm-a (i think) to run it
[07:58] <cbruno> \join #cedarlug
[07:59] <chimaera> ok
[07:59] <punay> @hix
[07:59] <dxdt> chimaera, then logout and log back on and it should autostart and
[07:59] <seanzer> pegs: does this bother you?
[07:59] <avalon> Well one problem of mine Jakkaru, one of hundreds all relating to touchscreens
[07:59] <ChevronX> Yes, it was VisualBoyAdvance
[07:59] <Pie-rate> gnome-screensaver runs at a really high gamma setting, and after it exits gamma is really high, how can i fix this?
[07:59] <ChevronX> Thanks
[07:59] <spikeb> ChevronX: make sure you install the vbaexpress front-end, too.
[07:59] <dxdt> chimaera, if it doesn't work, we may need to change one more thing that I used to change but I don't think is necessary anymore.  We'll find out.
[07:59] <spikeb> ChevronX: you';re welcome.
[07:59] <punay> (seanzer): a
[07:59] <chimaera> ok let me relogin
[07:59] <Jakkaru> lol well atleast im not alone in this
[07:59] <ChevronX> Yes, the front end was for  Visual Boy Advance
[07:59] <cbruno> is goobuntu ever going to be a reality
[07:59] <seanzer> punay: go away windows user
[08:00] <spikeb> cbruno: what is goobuntu? :P
[08:00] <spikeb> ChevronX: cool.
[08:00] <punay> (seanzer): please
[08:00] <cbruno> google + ubuntu
[08:00] <spikeb> oh
[08:00] <pegs> well, i guess it isnt a problem as such.. it was working, and now it doesnt
[08:00] <spikeb> who knows
[08:00] <cge> seanzer: The interface has a peculiar bug where the interface dies until reboot if I restart it. Or at least it had that - I haven't brought the network down or rebooted since installing Edgy a few weeks ago. Besides, my users wouldn't like that.
[08:00] <cbruno> challenge M$
[08:00] <cge> seanzer: But netstat will work
[08:00] <corin> cbruno, i doubt it
[08:00] <avalon> Ditto cbruno
[08:00] <seanzer> cge: did you try restarting the interface through the init scripts?
[08:00] <ChevronX> Its working
[08:00] <corin> didn't shuttleworth say there was no goobuntu that was public (outside of the lair of google?)
[08:01] <spikeb> ChevronX: have fun!
[08:01] <cbruno> google has the clout to put it out there, the can get peripherial manufacturers on board
[08:01] <Ashton_K> Google is going to release a Linux distro?
[08:01] <chimaera> wow the networkmanasger works nicely.. thnx!@
[08:01] <Ashton_K> Or is workign on one?
[08:01] <dxdt> no
[08:01] <corin> Ashton, no
[08:01] <cbruno> yeah not yet
[08:01] <Ashton_K> Damn.
[08:01] <seanzer> i wouldn't use google's distro
[08:01] <h3xis> googlix
[08:01] <Jakkaru> ill go find my sync rates see if that helps
[08:01] <Ashton_K> Well, I'm not sure if it'd be a good thing or not.
[08:01] <cbruno> im wondering if it will ever be put out there
[08:01] <spikeb> me either seanzer. i already have a distro
[08:01] <corin> i wouldn't either...i like my privacy
[08:01] <dxdt> no, they have one internally and they have stated that they have no intention of releasing it
[08:01] <seanzer> think, every piece of your computer would be on everyone elses so it'd be easier to search
[08:01] <Ashton_K> It'd sure take away a lot of the "special" and "elite" feeling, you know?
[08:01] <spikeb> corin: me too somewhat.
[08:01] <avalon> Anyone in here ever written a driver?
[08:01] <cge> seanzer: It was an eight year old or so Debian installation that was only rebooted about once every six months, and was a mess. So I don't think it has the problem any more now that Edgy is installed.
[08:02] <seanzer> avalon: i've made a bong
[08:02] <spikeb> seanzer: yes, but have you made a bong out of a driver?
[08:02] <avalon> Did it connect up a touchscreen seanzer? :p
[08:02] <Ashton_K> Not quite as complex, but okay?
[08:02] <Ashton_K> Yes, it did.
[08:02] <Ashton_K> It didn't taste so great, but damn that screen worked well.... I think.
[08:02] <corin> avalon: you can find tutorials for all kinds of drivers on teh pipes
[08:02] <avalon> Because shy of making my own driver, i don't think this touchscreen is EVER going to work.
[08:02] <Ashton_K> Start coding?
[08:03] <Ashton_K> Depends how badly you want a touch screen.
[08:03] <seanzer> avalon, spikeb: it was amazing, it allowed me to smoke open source weed
[08:03] <cge> seanzer: Err, wait - netstat won't work. The connection I need to kill is a masqueraded connection.
[08:03] <avalon> Bad enough to sell my soul to satan Ashton_K
[08:03] <seanzer> cge: well, you can use route to null the connection
[08:03] <Ashton_K> That'd be the cue to start coding.
[08:03] <Ashton_K> lol
[08:03] <Ashton_K> Oh man, only a math geek would enjoy that.
[08:03] <spikeb> seanzer: sweet
[08:03] <cbruno> why does everyone who uses my ubuntu machines think they are on a MAC???
[08:04] <Ashton_K> Because everyone else, is a retard.
[08:04] <spikeb> cbruno: because the UI doesn't suck.
[08:04] <seanzer> OMG OSX IS LINUX.... not
[08:04] <pegs> lol
[08:04] <seanzer> what happens when  you press f9
[08:04] <Ashton_K> Unix based, isn't it?
[08:04] <seanzer> does it do what osx does?
[08:04] <pegs> i get that same comment from people alot too
[08:04] <seanzer> bsd based
[08:04] <h3xis> Ashton_K, bsd - darwin
[08:04] <corin> OS X is UNIX though...close enough :)
[08:04] <cge> cbruno: Because it isn't Windows, so it must be a computer made by that little company named after a fruit. There isn't anything else, is there? :)
[08:04] <cbruno> OS X is cool
[08:04] <seanzer> os x is proprietery
[08:04] <cbruno> just not open like ubuntu
[08:04] <seanzer> as bad as sco
[08:04] <Ashton_K> So, distantly related to Linux, but not direct sister OS's
[08:04] <seanzer> and almost as bad as windows
[08:04] <avalon> We need the hardware recogntion from OSX
[08:04] <Ashton_K> Windows.
[08:05] <Ashton_K> It's the only thing that works ATM.
[08:05] <spikeb> my sister runs ubuntu on her mac heh
[08:05] <seanzer> windows doesn't work for me
[08:05] <Ashton_K> I can't be assholed into carrying this case downstairs to get it to work.
[08:05] <seanzer> at all
[08:05] <seanzer> vista complains about activation
[08:05] <seanzer> so does xp
[08:05] <seanzer> and then it stops working after 2 weeks
[08:05] <BrendanM> Now that Macs are x86 they're just pretty-looking PCs
[08:05] <Ashton_K> I'd rather build my own comp, tbh.
[08:05] <spikeb> BrendanM: that's all they ever were.
[08:05] <seanzer> you can build a mac
[08:05] <Ashton_K> Well, that means they'll take Linux quieter.
[08:05] <seanzer> just get a job at apple
[08:05] <cbruno> mac suck not because of OSX but because their hardware is overpriced
[08:05] <corin> BrendanM, you're right, but the OS still whips the snot out of Windows
[08:05] <avalon> Vista and XP= You pay microsoft to infect your system and don't even get porn to show for it ;)
[08:05] <Ashton_K> Seanzer, short of that...
[08:06] <Ashton_K> :P
[08:06] <seanzer> well, vista is nice
[08:06] <seanzer> it's fast
[08:06] <seanzer> er
[08:06] <Ashton_K> I'm only 17, any job I got a computer company, would involve sweeping the floors.
[08:06] <BrendanM> Vista is pretty looking
[08:06] <seanzer> faster
[08:06] <BrendanM> we have the enterprise version at  my university
[08:06] <Ashton_K> Faster than....?
[08:06] <cge> Ashton_K: There are several significant developers who are younger than you.
[08:06] <Ashton_K> XP?
[08:06] <BrendanM> so I was playing around with it
[08:06] <Ashton_K> True, but I don't know C yet.
[08:06] <avalon> Not necessarily Ash, I worked 4 years at a tech dept as a technician when I turned 14
[08:06] <max_> is Cairo-Dock Gnome only? or can you use it on KDE?
[08:06] <seanzer> Ashton_K: when i was 14 i got my job at the university coding simulations for the theoretical physicists
[08:06] <corin> Ashton, better start learning
[08:06] <pegs> i find that e17 on ubuntu dapper is more stable and functional than vista
[08:07] <Ashton_K> I'm working my way in, as best as I can.
[08:07] <cbruno> you can get a quad-core PC for under 1500--the macpro is over 2000
[08:07] <dxdt> yeah I worked as an IS manager for like 50+ win machines and a few servers(backup server, etc) at that age too
[08:07] <Ashton_K> Starting at a linux business.
[08:07] <Ashton_K> :P
[08:07] <seanzer> cbruno: where do you see this 'quad-core' PC
[08:07] <seanzer> cbruno: don't let intel fool you
[08:07] <Ashton_K> It's two dual cores.
[08:07] <cbruno> xeon
[08:07] <cge> Ashton_K: C isn't that hard. I learnt it when I was around 10. Try Haskell instead, that should be more of a challenge.
[08:07] <Jakkaru> damn cant find the rates... where my damn manual
[08:07] <corin> cbruno, i personally feel like a lot of that money is OS X you are paying for...it makes it so much closer to being worth it :)
[08:07] <Ashton_K> Well, I'm learning it soon.
[08:08] <seanzer> it's not really a quad core cpu
[08:08] <avalon> I love C... I've gotta take COBOL at college though.. boy.. that's REALLY useful.
[08:08] <seanzer> it's like.. 2.75 cpus
[08:08] <h3xis> avalon, it's more useful than fortran.
[08:08] <Ashton_K> Completely Obsolete Business Oriented Language?
[08:08] <corin> COBOL? what's that? :)
[08:08] <Ashton_K> See above.
[08:08] <cbruno> yeah its 2 dual cores...i guess that is not technically a quad core since they all share cache
[08:08] <Ashton_K> I could heat my coffee on that.
[08:08] <Ashton_K> Boil it, even.
[08:09] <avalon> Did you know that when they dug up King Tut, they found Pic x(4) value "death" on his tomb?
[08:09] <seanzer> idk, cobol might be better than RESOLVE/c++
[08:09] <cge> avalon: I have heard that learning COBOL well guarantees that one will always be able to find a well paid job.
[08:09] <seanzer> that i had to learn
[08:09] <corin> i still like working on true quad core machines...we have a quad core opteron running red hat at my job
[08:09] <Ashton_K> Nah.
[08:09] <cbruno> still a macbook pro with a 2.0 ghz intel core duo is 2000 while a PC you can find um under 1000
[08:09] <seanzer> yea, scientists like to use cobol
[08:09] <cge> seanzer: No we don't!
[08:09] <seanzer> ok i was wrong
[08:09] <avalon> I hope so cge, everytime I've mentioned it to  a business, they mentioned that their grandpa knew it?
[08:09] <Ashton_K> cge, that was true when all the old COBOL servers needed to be upgraded for the y2k scare.
[08:09] <seanzer> scientists HERE like to use cobol
[08:09] <Ashton_K> After that... pfft.
[08:09] <seanzer> for some reason
[08:09] <seanzer> and i said no.
[08:09] <Ashton_K> They're scientists.
[08:10] <fromvega> Hello... I'm the administrator but I can't access the directory /var/log/squid. What do I need to be able do access it?
[08:10] <Ashton_K> It's their job to know science, most are lost with computers.
[08:10] <corin> they need to upgrade to python or something
[08:10] <cbruno> ruby
[08:10] <Ashton_K> Root?
[08:10] <cge> seanzer: We had a professor at UCSD who required that his entire group infrastructure be run on vaxen.
[08:10] <Ashton_K> su - root
[08:10] <seanzer> fromvega: it's probably locked by access
[08:10] <corin> fromvega, what does it tell you?
[08:10] <Ashton_K> enter password, acces it.
[08:10] <seanzer> cge: ew
[08:10] <Rookie_> think this is way OT ....
[08:10] <cge> seanzer: And this continues to this day, as well.
[08:10] <Ashton_K> Vaxen?
[08:10] <Ashton_K> Sounds evil.
[08:10] <fromvega> corin: permission denied
[08:10] <cbruno> anyone log into this irc room from some os beside ubuntu?
[08:10] <seanzer> sounds like..
[08:11] <h3xis> cbruno, debian?
[08:11] <Ashton_K> Vader, tbh.
[08:11] <cbruno> too close
[08:11] <avalon> oohhh.. lemme shutup before i get coralled into ubuntu ot :)
[08:11] <corin> cbruno: i'm on OS X right now
[08:11] <h3xis> seanzer runs gentoo
[08:11] <fromvega> do you know where the squid logs are? I suppose they are in this folder
[08:11] <Ashton_K> What was that language, old, that allowed true multi-processing?
[08:11] <cbruno> ok
[08:11] <cbruno> fedora core sucks!
[08:11] <Ashton_K> Gentoo!
[08:11] <Ashton_K> Here's to doing things the hard way, in the name of learning!
[08:11] <elkbuntu> please either quit the distro war or take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:11] <seanzer> Ashton_K: idk, but C's mpi libs are pretty 'true' multi-processing..
[08:12] <Ashton_K> It was an old one, CIA made I believe.
[08:12] <seanzer> good one h3xis
[08:12] <emun> this talk makes me feel like going into programming, wow anyway this newbie needs somehelp, I have the tar.bz files for mythtv seating on my desktop now how do I install it please step by step method will be appreciated thanks
[08:12] <Ashton_K> Named after the "first programmer"
[08:12] <seanzer> you got everyone all anxious
[08:12] <fromvega> seanzer: but why is it locked? can I unlock it?
[08:12] <Ashton_K> tar -xjf filename
[08:12] <h3xis> :/
[08:12] <corin> emun: there are mythtv threads on ubuntuforums.org that are step by step
[08:12] <Shdw|Laptop> hi
[08:12] <Ashton_K> Or Knoppmyth might be a good choice.
[08:12] <Jaka|> found a big bag of manuals an junk got exited thought it was my monitor manual. just my wii manual and safety instructions
[08:12] <seanzer> avalon: ubuntu can work with touchscreens why
[08:13] <cge> emun, Ashton_K: tar -xf filename works now as well, at least in Ubuntu.
[08:13] <seanzer> fromvega: can you copy the file?
[08:13] <BrendanM> fromvega, you should try using "sudo su" to become root to access it
[08:13] <agibby5> anyone have an idea here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=320102
[08:13] <mikedoty> Hey, you know how the D-pad on a gamepad only has a range of [-1, 1]  on each axis?  Can I use the ubuntu Joystick Calibration utility to redefine the value of each axis to, say, [-16, 16] ?
[08:13] <cbruno> anyone every do any lego mindstorms programming off ubuntu
[08:13] <mikedoty> I've been looking at it for a while, but I haven't found a way to do this yet
[08:13] <Ashton_K> I have no idea what the xjvf or whatever letters do, I just use the ones people tell me to use.
[08:13] <Ashton_K> :P
[08:13] <cge> BrendanM, fromvega: sudo -s or sudo -i is better than sudo su.
[08:13] <fromvega> BrendanM: sudo su workdes
[08:13] <fromvega> BrendanM: sudo su worked :P
[08:14] <calvarez> hello, anybody uses mod_python?
[08:14] <cge> Ashton_K: x extracts, f specifies a filename, and j and z refer to bz2 and gz compression. But the compression is now autodetected, apparently.
[08:14] <seanzer> Ashton_K: x=extract, j=bzip2 archive, v=verbose, f= file
[08:14] <corin> calvarez, i've played with it a little?
[08:14] <Ashton_K> Sweet.
[08:14] <Ashton_K> Cools.
[08:14] <Ashton_K> So only xf is needed?
[08:14] <seanzer> cge:  it is?!
[08:14] <Ashton_K> Handy.
[08:15] <calvarez> corin, how well does it work in ubuntu?
[08:15] <cge> seanzer: Try tar xf something.tar.{bz2,gz}.
[08:15] <GirlRiver> Does anyone know if edgy  supports connecting to bluetooth phone using a bluetooth dongle ?
[08:15] <cge> seanzer: It works for me in feisty, at least, and I believe it works in edgy as well.
[08:15] <Ashton_K> feisty?
[08:15] <Ashton_K> Experimental build?
[08:15] <corin> calvarez: i had it running in an old fedora core install for a while then migrated it to ubuntu, and it was considerably faster (on the same hardware) and was almost completely stable from what i could see
[08:15] <cbruno> anyone ever heard of autoit on windows?
[08:16] <cbruno> anything like that for GNOME?
[08:16] <neurotech> Is there a Global Hotkey plugin for XMMS?
[08:16] <Ashton_K> No idea what that is.
[08:16] <cge> Ashton_K: Yes, I had resolved to not run the devel version this time around, but it is too hard to write patches when not running the latest version.
[08:16] <cbruno> basically a gui scripting language
[08:16] <midgetg0at> automatix2?
[08:16] <midgetg0at> er, nm :)
[08:16] <seanzer> xmms?
[08:16] <cge> GirlRiver: somewhat. The Wiki has a guide to it.
[08:16] <seanzer> people are still using th at?
[08:17] <seanzer> i thuoght development stopped on it
[08:17] <Madpilot> cbruno, there's zen, which uses the gtk toolkit for easy simple gui development
[08:17] <neurotech> It's awesome, just like Winamp
[08:17] <cbruno> thanks
[08:17] <seanzer> neurotech: try audacious
[08:17] <neurotech> why?
[08:17] <seanzer> neurotech: it's "like winamp" but is the successor to xmms
[08:17] <AWOSDev> Is there a program for Ubuntu like Motherboard Monitor?  where it shows the Fan RPM, processor voltage, current speed, etc...?
[08:17] <cge> cbruno: Many scripting languages have support for gnome. Ruby is my favourite.
[08:17] <seanzer> AWOSDev: depends on your chipset
[08:17] <h3xis> gkrellm?
[08:17] <neurotech> pl
[08:17] <neurotech> ok
[08:17] <Madpilot> ubotu, sensors | AWOSDev
[08:17] <ubotu> AWOSDev: You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[08:17] <Ashton_K> Dunno. Although I was happy to find out that Gentoo supports uGuru.
[08:18] <Ashton_K> Wonder if I can get that for Ubuntu?
[08:18] <cge> AWOSDev: There are a vast number of those types of programs.
[08:18] <Ashton_K> (If this board has uGuru, dunno if it does)
[08:18] <seanzer> neurotech: if you just take a look at audacious, you'll see how outdated xmms is
[08:18] <emun> ashton-k, will the file name be like mythtv-0.20.tar.bz2
[08:18] <neurotech> yeah wow, this is awesome
[08:18] <GirlRiver> cge, I used the following guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup but when I do 'sudo hidd --search' it just returns and does not show any device ids at all
[08:18] <avalon> seanzer: sorry to be responding so late, just got back. Ubuntu doesn't seem to like my simple USB touchscreen. Do you know how to make them work?
[08:18] <AWOSDev> Madpilot thanks
[08:18] <dxdt> AWOSDev, umm kinda, yeah, I have one on my taskbar, I just hit add to panel and then clicked cpu monitor or something.  Also, there are ones that do fans and things you can install.  Gkrellm I use, but that's a freefloating program you might not want
[08:18] <Ashton_K> Sure.
[08:18] <Ashton_K> I've never used MythTV.
[08:18] <Ashton_K> Search the forums, there should be a walkthrough.
[08:18] <corin> neurotech: i run GNOME but have Amarok installed...it's very awesome compared to xmms and teh evil rythymbox
[08:18] <AWOSDev> seazner, VIA K8M800 north, VT8237 south
[08:18] <seanzer> avalon: what kind of monitor do you have
[08:19] <AWOSDev> dxdt, cool, but I use KDE
[08:19] <AWOSDev> cge, I didn't seem them in repo
[08:19] <Ashton_K> Might be universe.
[08:19] <emun> great I will try it and see
[08:19] <Ashton_K> Check the forums man.
[08:19] <Ashton_K> There are plenty of walkthroughs.
[08:19] <avalon> seanzer: Aspen Touchscreen 15 inches
[08:19] <mikedoty> Any ideas on my d-pad conundrum?
[08:19] <Ashton_K> I believe one is a sticky in the howto section, or whatever.
[08:19] <surface_> well i have no problem with gkrellm, its a bar, with nice theme, it looks stylish
[08:20] <Ashton_K> Extended keymaps?
[08:20] <cbruno> do programs compiled for the .NET runtime run on the mono runtime?
[08:20] <surface_> for me icons is more irritating
[08:20] <dxdt> when you are connected to a printer, and the printer is all good and working, is there a single file somewhere that describes the printer?  A file such that I can do echo "asdfasdf" | /whatever/printerhere and make it print that?
[08:20] <avalon> seanzer: Aspen touchscreen 15 inch. Nothing fancy, just USB plugup and VGA connection.
[08:20] <cge> GirlRiver: Yes, thus my use of 'somewhat'. It has a tendency to not work very well, and is rather tricky to set up. I was partially successful with a Samsung X820, but not with a RAZR. You might check to see if the phone has bluetooth visibility turned on, but besides that, I'm not sure what the problem is. The RAZR had visibility on and didn't show up, in a similar manner to what you describe.
[08:20] <seanzer> AWOSDev: i'm not sure of any gui apps, but you can look through for various hw monitors that your kernel supports in /proc/
[08:20] <calvarez> cbruno, yes, as long as the libraries are
[08:20] <calvarez> cbruno, what are you looking for?
[08:20] <Ashton_K> dxdt, I think printers take more complex info than that.
[08:21] <seanzer> avalon: have you tried their drivers?
[08:21] <AWOSDev> seazner, yeah I'm building a new computer and was wondering, I don't have the PSU yet so I was just getting ready :P
[08:21] <neurotech> seanzer: I downloaded the tgz. How do I install it in Ubuntu?
[08:21] <Ashton_K> But it probably is a file somewhere, probably in /dev if it's actually plugged into your comp.
[08:21] <cge> AWOSDev: /proc and /sys will tell you just about anything you ever wanted to know.
[08:21] <calvarez> cbruno, are you looking for a GUI toolkit?
[08:21] <gr0k3m> i am trying to install trac but apt-get is telling me python-clearsilver (>= 0.9.3) is not installable...
[08:21] <J-_> how do I removethat I've compiled?
[08:21] <J-_> err
[08:21] <DeagsDoesLinux> ok i have a bunch of games made specifically for linux that i would like to get installed but im a newb and i cant figure out how to install them and i do not want to do it the incorrect way and mess anything up
[08:21] <J-_> software
[08:21] <cge> gr0k3m: Are you running Feisty or using third part repositories?
[08:21] <dxdt> Ashton_K, that wasn't really a no... I feel like there is one...
[08:21] <avalon> seanzer: I've got them downloaded, but they're not made for ubuntu period, and I've never been able to get them to compile.
[08:21] <calvarez> DeagsDoesLinux, which games, specifically?
[08:21] <DeagsDoesLinux> o god there is 37 of them
[08:21] <calvarez> ack
[08:22] <cge> J-_: with great difficulty if sudo make uninstall doesn't work.
[08:22] <DeagsDoesLinux> hehe
[08:22] <seanzer> avalon: are you experienced with compiling?
[08:22] <calvarez> where did you get them from?
[08:22] <Ashton_K> What file extensions are on them?
[08:22] <Madpilot> anyone know if Sid Meier's Pirates runs in Wine? apparently a relative is giving it to me for Xmas
[08:22] <seanzer> neurotech: there's documentation included
[08:22] <DeagsDoesLinux> my friend sent them to me
[08:22] <Ashton_K> Hopefully they're in .debs
[08:22] <cbruno> im looking for something either cross platform (no java) or some easy to learn language for making GNOME guis
[08:22] <gr0k3m> cge: nope just universe & multiverse
[08:22] <Ashton_K> If they're in .rpm's, this might be painful.
[08:22] <seanzer> neurotech: but i believe it's in ubuntu's repo?
[08:22] <calvarez> DeagsDoesLinux, but are the .deb files? .tgz files?
[08:22] <avalon> seanzer: I know how to do it, but it spits out some weird errors. I'm no pro at it though.
[08:22] <cge> cbruno: ruby
[08:22] <AWOSDev> Madpilot, aw that's no fun, knowing your presents :P
[08:22] <neurotech> did a search, no luck
[08:22] <levander> Somebody in here showed me a really good link on how to install hardware acceleration for nvidia cards.  Nobody knows what it was do they?  Or, know a commonly used good one?
[08:22] <seanzer> avalon: where does it die at
[08:22] <DeagsDoesLinux> well let me see
[08:22] <corin> gr0k3m: you might have to find a repository with that package in it
[08:23] <Ashton_K> Levander, it's on the ubuntu wiki.
[08:23] <calvarez> cbruno, I have been doing the same research you;re doing right now
[08:23] <DeagsDoesLinux> theres alot of .gz's
[08:23] <cge> cbruno: or python, or javascript (yes, javascript), or gambas, or ...
[08:23] <Ashton_K> They're included in the linux-restricted-modules.
[08:23] <AWOSDev> well thanks guys
[08:23] <calvarez> for the last few weeks
[08:23] <AWOSDev> bye!
[08:23] <avalon> Lemme compile it and give you the exact error. One sec
[08:23] <cbruno> does ruby require a large runtime for a user to download in windows
[08:23] <Ashton_K> .gz's, semi painful.
[08:23] <midgetg0at> http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Edgy
[08:23] <seanzer> neurotech: http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/sound/audacious
[08:23] <Ashton_K> Hope the makefile's aren't broken.
[08:23] <cge> cbruno: It requires a runtime, but isn't that large.
[08:23] <DeagsDoesLinux> ive never installed anything
[08:23] <calvarez> cbruno, if you want a toolkit that is crossplatform, use wxWindows
[08:23] <cbruno> java sucks because the JVM is like 15 MB
[08:23] <GirlRiver> cge, I just tried 'hcitool scan' and this showed my devices, although still having trouble connecting, but the phone showed an attempt
[08:23] <Jakkaru> ok its not a sync rate issue
[08:23] <seanzer> neurotech: if you know how to add feisty to your repo
[08:23] <DeagsDoesLinux> so whoever helps me may have to go pretty slow
[08:23] <calvarez> cbruno, it is more portable than GTK
[08:23] <seanzer> cbruno: what about oo?
[08:24] <cbruno> does wxwindows work right out of the box? or is there the possiblity of DLL hell?
[08:24] <seanzer> cbruno: that's like 2000 GB
[08:24] <J-_> cge: make: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'.  Stop.
[08:24] <calvarez> cbruno, right out of the box
[08:24] <neurotech> seanzer: I'm using Dapper 6.06 amd64
[08:24] <cge> J-_: You are doomed.
[08:24] <J-_> yay
[08:24] <J-_> =\
[08:24] <calvarez> cbruno, what languages do you know?
[08:24] <Ashton_K> Common feeling.
[08:24] <Ashton_K> 2:30, time to sleep.
[08:24] <cge> J-_: Why do you want to remove it?
[08:25] <calvarez> cbruno, btw, wxWidgets is the name
[08:25] <cbruno> C/C++, java, I know Qt and swing
[08:25] <calvarez> my mistake
[08:25] <seanzer> neurotech: well, then i guess you'll have to build from source
[08:25] <J-_> because the software seems corrupt (not working)
[08:25] <seanzer> .. wh ich is why i use gentoo ;)
[08:25] <Ashton_K> What's more priceless than a beer mug with "#include <beer.h>" on it?
[08:25] <cbruno> python
[08:25] <levander> Ashton_K: I see BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia - but I don't think that's it.  The guide I'm talking about had me use "glxinfo | grep direct" or something like that to see if I had hardware acceleration already installed.  Is that the page you were talking about?  The BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?
[08:25] <avalon> seanzer: , that's a problem I had, I get into the 2.6 kernel dir, and I see COMPILE, makefile, and touch.c and I cant use a ./configure
[08:25] <surface_> J-_, check the Makefile, search for install:
[08:25] <J-_> k
[08:25] <calvarez> cbruno, you can do the development in C/C++ if you wish, but in python it would be even faster and less of a hassle
[08:25] <evil_> What is better, Rythmbox or Amarok?
[08:25] <surface_> J-_, if no uninstall, u have to rm manually
[08:26] <cbruno> Qt sucks because of Troll Techs licensing for commerical software
[08:26] <Ashton_K> lsmod | grep nvidia_glx
[08:26] <calvarez> cbruno, check out wxPython
[08:26] <midgetg0at> evil_: try having an opinion ;)
[08:26] <cbruno> i want to sell the app I have in mind for windows users
[08:26] <cge> J-_: Actually, you could install checkinstall, then run checkinstall make install to install the program with checkinstall, and then remove the package that it creates and installs!
[08:26] <seanzer> avalon: i gues si'll take a look at what their 'drivers' are
[08:26] <Ashton_K> That'll list it if you have it installed.
[08:26] <surface_> its good to include uninstall: as ppl may want to uninstall
[08:26] <corin> evil_: amarok imo. it's a bit slower, but it's a worthy tradeoff
[08:26] <calvarez> cbruno, Qt4 allows you to use Qt in Windows for free if you're making Open Source software
[08:26] <GirlRiver> cge, I'm now getting a request from the computer and the phone asking for permission and a pass key,  then the connection gets refused
[08:26] <ScottK> cbruno: I thought QT was GPL now?
[08:26] <cbruno> no I want to sell my app for windows
[08:26] <calvarez> cbruno, but if you prefer to use something not as restrictive as the GPL, then wxWidgets is a good option
[08:26] <Ashton_K> The latest nvidia drivers are in the linux-restricted-modules repository, there should be a guide on the Ubuntu wiki.
[08:26] <cge> GirlRiver: You typed the same numbers into both?
[08:26] <levander> Ashton_K: No, I don't have it installed.
[08:26] <avalon> I'd appreciate it seanzer, I'm up on a wall.I'll get you the link to it
[08:26] <cbruno> keep it free for linux
[08:27] <Ashton_K> Lemme find the wiki I used.
[08:27] <midgetg0at> i just posted a link for nvidia driver howto
[08:27] <calvarez> cbruno, then you should use either wxWidgets or GTK+
[08:27] <cbruno> is wxwidgets LGPL?
[08:27] <calvarez> yes
[08:27] <cge> GirlRiver: You generally only have 30 seconds to do so.
[08:27] <Ashton_K> Midget, did it use the restricted-modules?
[08:27] <calvarez> LGPL
[08:27] <surface_> Open QT is under bsd license, if my memory serve me right
[08:27] <midgetg0at> http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Edgy
[08:27] <avalon> seanzer: http://www.aspentouchsupport.com/download/index.htm under Linux.
[08:27] <calvarez> actually, it's LGPL with even less restrictions
[08:27] <DeagsDoesLinux> was someoeng onan help me install those games or what lol everyone just kinda changed subject :P
[08:27] <midgetg0at> oh i dont recall, all i know is it worked for me so i bookmarked it.
[08:27] <corin> see ya everyone
[08:27] <cge> cbruno: wxwidgets isn't bad, that is true. And it has wide support in scripting languages as well, if I recall.
[08:28] <GirlRiver> cge, I can't see where to type the passkey on ubuntu ..using 'sudo hidd --connect 00:16:B8:BE:92:C6'
[08:28] <seanzer> avalon: http://www.aspentouchsupport.com/download/AspenLinuxDriverDisk2.4.3.tar.gz
[08:28] <calvarez> lots of ports, yea
[08:28] <cbruno> has anyone ever used latex under mac OS X?
[08:28] <seanzer> avalon: doesn't look like you have to build anything
[08:28] <surface_> qpl : http://www.trolltech.com/products/qt/licenses/licensing/qpl
[08:28] <calvarez> cbruno, also there are RAD tools for wxWidgets with code generation in several languages as well
[08:28] <cge> GirlRiver: Yes, you need to run something, but I don't remember what it is.
[08:28] <Ashton_K> Levander: The one that Midget posted should work.
[08:28] <seanzer> avalon: extract it all, and go into Touchscreen/Debian_Sarge_3.1r2_32bit/usb/
[08:28] <Ashton_K> The nVidia drivers are available through apt-get, that guide will walk you through it.
[08:28] <seanzer> avalon: assuming you don't have an amd64..
[08:29] <cge> GirlRiver: Maybe bluez-pin?
[08:29] <avalon> I don't. Lemme get you the error I get.
[08:29] <GirlRiver> will try
[08:29] <cbruno> here is my app idea: a collection of algorithms that generate math worksheets for teachers
[08:29] <Ashton_K> Seanzer, I'd say "Assuming you aren't using X86_64 libraries" is a better way to put it.
[08:29] <levander> I'm looking at the Wiki, I hate how the document everything button by button.  I don't even use synaptic, so I have to reverse engine what those buttons do.
[08:29] <cbruno> from basic math to calculus
[08:29] <levander> thanks midget
[08:29] <cbruno> my app will spit out a .tex file
[08:29] <Ashton_K> I have a 64, but I installed x86, hated compatability issues with 64 bit libraries
[08:29] <DeagsDoesLinux> madpilot , wanna be my savior again and help me install these things or u busy?
[08:29] <midgetg0at> same ashton
[08:29] <cbruno> and then use a latex compiler to generate a pdf file with the worksheet
[08:30] <calvarez> .tex file? Why not .pdf?
[08:30] <jakkaru> how do i save the file when usuing VI?
[08:30] <Madpilot> DeagsDoesLinux, sorry, haven't been following - installing what things?
[08:30] <cbruno> tex is the intermeidate
[08:30] <seanzer> Ashton_K: but my way was a lot shorter
[08:30] <Ashton_K> :wq?
[08:30] <Ashton_K> What way?
[08:30] <cge> cbruno: I think you just need to install XeTeX. But I've never used it.
[08:30] <Ashton_K> I'm confused.
[08:30] <surface_> tex files need to compile with latex
[08:30] <seanzer> Ashton_K: lol, nevermind
[08:30] <calvarez> cbruno, there is an Open Source library called Report.Net for Python that makes .pdf files
[08:30] <surface_> :x
[08:30] <avalon> Sorry seanzer, comp froze. Lemme extract it
[08:30] <cge> calvarez: But it can't do math typesetting.
[08:30] <seanzer> avalon: k
[08:30] <calvarez> cbruno, any specific reason to spit out a .tex instead of generating a .pdf instead>
[08:31] <calvarez> oh
[08:31] <cbruno> yeah but =--right cge
[08:31] <calvarez> I see
[08:31] <seanzer> does anyone know if a beer bong has any advantages over water? xP
[08:31] <avalon> Successfully extracted
[08:31] <DeagsDoesLinux> :D well first off hi again u helped me get ubuntu installed otherday my cd was messed up had to burn at a 4x i guess i dont really understand how to install anything at all but i have some games with .gx extention id like to try installing
[08:31] <surface_> .tex is editable, pdf can't
[08:31] <cge> DeagsDoesLinux: .gz?
[08:31] <Ashton_K> Yeah, typo.
[08:31] <DeagsDoesLinux> ya
[08:31] <Ashton_K> They're tarballs.
[08:31] <Ashton_K> I don't know enough to walk him through a makefile
[08:31] <avalon> Swapping to USB dir now and attempting to follow readme commands
[08:31] <cbruno> basically if a teacher needed to make a worksheet for solving a system of equations--they would set their options, click a button and bam its there
[08:31] <cge> surface_: PDF is editable in a text editor :)
[08:32] <als> Hi, i recently tried following an ati tutorial on getting the drivers to work properly. But when i rebooted, i got the error "out of scan range"
[08:32] <surface_> cge, oh really?
[08:32] <surface_> cge, any text editor?
[08:32] <calvarez> cbruno, sounds like a cool idea
[08:32] <cge> surface_: A text editor that can handle binary well, yes. But it isn't a realistic solution.
[08:32] <seanzer> als: when did you get the error
[08:32] <Ashton_K> It is FAR too early for this, sleep time.
[08:33] <cbruno> my hope is to get it into edubuntu
[08:33] <calvarez> cbruno, I would use python for that app. Then it is really cross-platform
[08:33] <als> a few seconds ago, right after i did the ati driver tutorial
[08:33] <seanzer> Ashton_K: smoke some pot, it'll be ok
[08:33] <RancidLM> hey all is smp kernel suported with ubuntu.. i notice i have it in synaptic but im not sure if its a from a 3rd party repository?
[08:33] <cbruno> im leaning that way cal
[08:33] <seanzer> als: no i mean, how far along the boot process
[08:33] <Ashton_K> I don't smoke.
[08:33] <calvarez> and it is easy and fast to develop for
[08:33] <surface_> cge, not for the content
[08:33] <cbruno> espcially after here
[08:33] <Ashton_K> I took a solid knock to the head today, ow.
[08:33] <Ashton_K> Probably should sleep it off.
[08:33] <daggerx> <<<seen windows vista....took xp off computer
[08:33] <seanzer> Ashton_K: :(
[08:33] <calvarez> cbruno, and for the GUI would could use wxPython or PyGTK
[08:33] <als> i mean my glxgears was working so i know 3d accerlation was working, but when i installed beryl, i got and error
[08:33] <cge> surface_: I take that back. PS is editable. PDF is only editable in special cases.
[08:33] <calvarez> you could*
[08:33] <Ashton_K> Could.
[08:33] <Ashton_K> Prefer not to.
[08:34] <als> so i tried to re-install the ati drivers and that's when i got the error :(
[08:34] <seanzer> als: did you install beryl on top of xgl?
[08:34] <DeagsDoesLinux> noone is up to helping me make these things i have a few.bz2's as well are those any easier?
[08:34] <diskus> !nvidia
[08:34] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:34] <elysium444> were can i find w32codecs, ubuntu 6.10 amd64, I have installed the other codecs but can't find this one.
[08:34] <cge> DeagsDoesLinux: They are both the same, essentially.
[08:34] <surface_> cge, ps i am not sure, as i know pdf can't the content is not editable in text format
[08:34] <DeagsDoesLinux> ahh crap
[08:34] <DeagsDoesLinux> lol
[08:34] <elysium444> !w32codecs
[08:34] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:34] <daggerx> anyone figure out how to get the screensavers to work right after updating ati drivers?
[08:34] <als> yes
[08:34] <cge> DeagsDoesLinux: What games are they, specifically.
[08:34] <cge> ?
[08:34] <cbruno> who approves whether or not an app gets included in edubuntu repositories
[08:34] <Ashton_K> cge, lots of them.
[08:34] <cbruno> like the ubuntu -safe ones
[08:34] <h3xis> daggerx, what do you mean "work right"?
[08:34] <Ashton_K> They're probably gonna come with makefiles
[08:34] <seanzer> nothing in ubuntu works right to my standards :(
[08:34] <DeagsDoesLinux> do i have to list everyone of them cause there r 37 of them
[08:34] <avalon> Here you go seanzer
[08:35] <als> it was called fgrxgl is what i think the item was called. Sorry if i spelled it incorrectly
[08:35] <daggerx> if i run newest drivers, the screen savers run bad
[08:35] <avalon> First errror.
[08:35] <daggerx> slow
[08:35] <Ashton_K> I really don't want to walk him through it, I barely get it to work for myself, let alone someone over IRC.
[08:35] <avalon> Modprobe touch. FATAL: Module touch not found.
[08:35] <daggerx> but i have 3d acceleration
[08:35] <h3xis> daggerx, youre not using the ati opengl driver
[08:35] <cge> DeagsDoesLinux: The first thing you should do is search for their names in synaptic. If they are there, install them that way instead.
[08:35] <h3xis> check your ati control
[08:35] <DeagsDoesLinux> whats that
[08:35] <h3xis> youre more than likely using mesa
[08:35] <Hilob> Umm, can anyone tell me why I can only use my network card with memory remap disabled in Ubuntu 64bit?
[08:35] <calvarez> DeagsDoesLinux, the thing is this: usually, you should strongly prefer to get all your software as .deb files
[08:35] <Ashton_K> Oh my.
[08:35] <cge> DeagsDoesLinux: Otherwise, the sources that you have are not easy to install.
[08:35] <Ashton_K> It's in your start menu.
[08:35] <Hilob> Which means i can only use 2.8/4GB of memory
[08:35] <calvarez> and, further, you want to download them using apt-get
[08:35] <DeagsDoesLinux> no offence cge or anything but i have no idea what im doing period
[08:35] <DeagsDoesLinux> lol
[08:36] <als> seanzer, is there anything i can do. i wish i would've bought a nvida card :((
[08:36] <seanzer> avalon: well, are you sure you copied touch.o to the right place?
[08:36] <dxdt> DeagsDoesLinux,  System >> Administration >> Synaptic  a gui program that hunts for easy to install premade programs.  They install with like two clicks
[08:36] <daggerx> i reverted back, but ill update again and come back
[08:36] <als> nvidia*
[08:36] <GirlRiver> cge, ok setup in and out passcode via bluez-pin however can't get to match on connect
[08:36] <seanzer> als: no, you wouldn't want an nvidia card..
[08:36] <daggerx> (games work fine tho)
[08:36] <DeagsDoesLinux> k one second
[08:36] <Ashton_K> Okay, sleepy time.
[08:36] <calvarez> DeagsDoesLinux, if you have .tgz or .bz2 files, that means it is the source code. You need to compile it, and if you don't know much about linux, I'd suggest you drop it
[08:36] <Ashton_K> It's 2:30 AM, I'm expected to be ... functioning tomorrow.
[08:36] <seanzer> als: but you should boot into text only and run X -configure
[08:36] <cge> GirlRiver: I'm not sure then - as I said, it is difficult to get working, and is definitely a weak point.
[08:36] <cbruno> i wish cedega would release their source code
[08:36] <Ashton_K> Or at least, make it work.
[08:36] <Ashton_K> :P
[08:36] <cbruno> whats up with this 5 bucks a month
[08:36] <calvarez> DeagsDoesLinux, unless you're motivated enough to spend a decent amount of time learning things
[08:36] <als> and go into vesa?
[08:36] <cbruno> ha
[08:37] <avalon> Well.. it says to cp ./touch.o /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-386/kernel/drivers/usb, but that dir doesn't exsist since I'm using a 2.6 kernel, so the only thing different is the kernel number.
[08:37] <calvarez> by decent I mean weeks
[08:37] <GirlRiver> cge, grrr so close and so far ;-) thanks to get me this far
[08:37] <cge> DeagsDoesLinux: You will want to start Synaptic from System/Administration
[08:37] <Shdw|Laptop> Does anyone know how to get Xvideo working properly with a Radeon X1600?
[08:37] <cge> GirlRiver: Try searching with google
[08:37] <DeagsDoesLinux> ok
[08:37] <cbruno> after 2 years i would have been better off buying windows home
[08:37] <DeagsDoesLinux> i have started it
[08:37] <dxdt> DeagsDoesLinux, what are you looking for anyway?
[08:37] <elysium444> where can i find w32codecs, ubuntu 6.10 amd64, I have installed the other codecs but can't find this one.
[08:37] <Ashton_K> Search for the games.
[08:37] <Ashton_K> See if they show up.
[08:37] <DeagsDoesLinux> games
[08:37] <Ashton_K> If they do, click the box next to them.
[08:37] <calvarez> DeagsDoesLinux, if you have the names of the games, you could see if they are available in apt-get
[08:37] <seanzer> avalon: do cp ./touch.o /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/usb/
[08:37] <Ashton_K> No, search for the actual game titles.
[08:37] <Hilob> http://lists.netfilter.org/pipermail/netfilter/2006-November/067431.html
[08:37] <cge> GirlRiver: for bluetooth and ubuntu. I recall seeing some forum topics and other places about it, which were better than the wiki.
[08:37] <Hilob> Can anyone provide insight
[08:37] <DeagsDoesLinux> lol apt get?
[08:37] <Hilob> I'm having the EXACT same issue
[08:37] <frogzoo> !codecs | elysium444
[08:37] <ubotu> elysium444: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:38] <Ashton_K> If you can fin dthem in synaptec, it'll make your life 30 billion times easier.
[08:38] <DeagsDoesLinux> im so confused already and we havnt even begun lmao
[08:38] <surface_> DeagsDoesLinux, u searching for games work in linux?
[08:38] <cge> DeagsDoesLinux: Use synaptic, not apt-get.
[08:38] <calvarez> DeagsDoesLinux, yes, apt-get is a program used to automatically download and install software in ubuntu
[08:38] <seanzer> does internet work in linux?
[08:38] <h3xis> no
[08:38] <h3xis> it doesnt
[08:38] <Murr> lol
[08:38] <calvarez> DeagsDoesLinux, as a general rules (especially to people new to ubuntu), you NEVER google for software
[08:38] <Ashton_K> apt-get, oh how I missed you.
[08:38] <Ashton_K> :P
[08:38] <Ashton_K> I was so tired of YAST.
[08:38] <DeagsDoesLinux> ok ok backup here so im in the package manager thing
[08:38] <Ashton_K> Either way, I'm out.
[08:38] <Hilob> Can anyone help?
[08:38] <Ashton_K> Brain, is burnt up.
[08:38] <Ashton_K> Later.
[08:38] <cbruno> anyone think wine will ever get to the point where all win32 and directX apps will work out of the box
[08:38] <Murr> why must emerald hate me so
[08:38] <calvarez> yea, use the package manager
[08:39] <DeagsDoesLinux> so i do a ssearch for the game title?
[08:39] <avalon> Still a fatal module not found. How do I remove the first one that I copied to make sure that wasn't what it's trying to use seanzer?
[08:39] <daggerx> ok brb>>>dreaded restart
[08:39] <calvarez> DeagsDoesLinux, FYI the package manager is called synaptic, and it is a graphical version of apt-get
[08:39] <frogzoo> seanzer: large chunks of the internet are built on linux
[08:39] <cbruno> so far i have only be able to get solitare to work
[08:39] <cge> DeagsDoesLinux: Click on search
[08:39] <DeagsDoesLinux> ok cool
[08:39] <dxdt> cbruno, I had system shock II working for a while
[08:39] <DeagsDoesLinux> ok clicked on search
[08:39] <Murr> i'm not sure why xterms get proper skinning and beryl effects but my other windows (firefox, etc) have pure white borders
[08:39] <h3xis> frogzoo, last i hear it was tubez
[08:39] <calvarez> DeagsDoesLinux, search for the titles and see if they come up
[08:39] <surface_> DeagsDoesLinux, good game intro http://blog.mypapit.net/2006/12/tremulous-addictive-open-source-game.html
[08:39] <DeagsDoesLinux> ok
[08:39] <dxdt> cbruno, I also had XGL at the time so I had system shock II working on the corner of the cube as the cube spun.  Pretty cool stuff
[08:40] <DeagsDoesLinux> ok now if this helps any these games were all on sourceforge
[08:40] <DeagsDoesLinux> but they never have .deb files for them
[08:40] <dxdt> Murr, did you install emerald ?  They do like themese and borders and things if I recall.
[08:40] <DeagsDoesLinux> suposidly
[08:40] <cbruno> yeah the only good thing about windows is the games
[08:40] <calvarez> DeagsDoesLinux, well, then most likely they will be there in the package manager
[08:40] <cge> DeagsDoesLinux: You will probably need to enable universe though to have any wide selection. You can do so by going to Settings->Repositories.
[08:40] <J-_> Can I reformat my Linux partition since I'm on a dualboot and will my windows partition still work after i do that?
[08:40] <RancidLM> how do i enable synaptic to get  a 2.6.x smp kernel ? a "smp" search only shows a 2.4.x kernel that's available
[08:40] <frogzoo> DeagsDoesLinux: apt-cache search foobar
[08:40] <calvarez> DeagsDoesLinux, that's because usually they put the sources for download in sourceforge, which means you have to compile them
[08:41] <DeagsDoesLinux> woah wait
[08:41] <cge> J-_: Yes, but only on the condition that you not hold me liable for saying so.
[08:41] <DeagsDoesLinux> lol
[08:41] <seanzer> frogzoo: that's not true :(
[08:41] <DeagsDoesLinux> one person talk to me at once ima get confused
[08:41] <J-_> cge: lol
[08:41] <frogzoo> seanzer: stop your trolling
[08:41] <avalon> seanzer: will it even work considering it's 2.4 kernel? I'm still getting the same error
[08:41] <calvarez> DeagsDoesLinux, again, always use the package manager and never a web browser to download and install things
[08:41] <J-_> cge: nah, I wouldn't
[08:41] <elysium444> frogzoo:which one is safer and easy Linux Vserver or  dchroot? for the w32codecs (amd64)
[08:41] <seanzer> avalon: there's always a possibility, no garauntee
[08:41] <cbruno> does canonical help Deags situation when you buy support
[08:41] <DeagsDoesLinux> ok
[08:41] <avalon> seanzer: It's still fatal module not found
[08:42] <seanzer> avalon: you sure you did depmod -a
[08:42] <frogzoo> elysium444: dunno, for desktop, 32bit is probly easier
[08:42] <DeagsDoesLinux> ok calvarez im in the repositories thing
[08:42] <elysium444> thanks anyway
[08:42] <cge> cbruno: I'm not sure. If they don't, they should. It would probably be profitable.
[08:42] <avalon> seanzer: positive. After each copy file
[08:42] <calvarez> DeagsDoesLinux, you'll have to ask someone else, I'm not in ubuntu right now
[08:43] <DeagsDoesLinux> o crap
[08:43] <cge> DeagsDoesLinux: Click on Community maintained ... and Software restricted by ...
[08:43] <cbruno> i wonder if canonicals support is limited to servers...i wonder if they mess with the desktop
[08:43] <cge> DeagsDoesLinux: Assuming they are already selected.
[08:43] <cge> cbruno: I think they support desktops as well.
[08:43] <gr0k3m> corin: cheers, tried canonical and plf repos with no luck.. recommend any repos
[08:43] <DeagsDoesLinux> i dont see it
[08:43] <cge> DeagsDoesLinux: Hmm... probably since I'm running Feisty instead of Edgy or Dapper.
[08:43] <DeagsDoesLinux> im on dapper
[08:43] <avalon> seanzer: This part right here is why I ended up trying to compile from source. I even downgraded from Edgy to dapper to try to get it to modprobe, and alas nadda.
[08:43] <DeagsDoesLinux> i did learn that yesterday lol
[08:44] <cbruno> how did you get fiesty cge
[08:44] <cge> cbruno: With update-manager, amazingly.
[08:44] <cbruno> thought that wasnt going to be released until next yar
[08:44] <cbruno> year
[08:44] <chimaera_> !codec
[08:44] <cge> cbruno: It isn't.
[08:44] <chimaera_> !codecs
[08:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:44] <DeagsDoesLinux> im trying to enable universe or something sge if u didnt know
[08:44] <cbruno> so you got it by luck?!
[08:44] <cge> DeagsDoesLinux: You should read help.ubuntu.com.
[08:45] <DeagsDoesLinux> ive tried to read about that stuff but i dont get it
[08:45] <seanzer> avalon: well, if it weren't so late i'd try harder to help you :(
[08:45] <cge> DeagsDoesLinux: ah.
[08:45] <avalon> seanzer: N/p, will you be around tomorrow?
[08:45] <cge> DeagsDoesLinux: one minute
[08:45] <Daggerx> ok i put in the newest ati drivers, i have 3d acceleration but the screensavers run real bad
[08:45] <DeagsDoesLinux> okie i got all night so no hurry
[08:46] <frogzoo> Daggerx: edgy or dapper? and which screensavers? rss-glx?
[08:46] <Daggerx> edgy
[08:46] <cge> DeagsDoesLinux: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/extra-repositories.html has the instruction you want.
[08:46] <seanzer> avalon: possibly, but i only come on irc once in like every few weeks
[08:46] <chimaera_> wats microsoft fonts for
[08:46] <seanzer> Daggerx: how are you sure you have 3d acceleration
[08:46] <Daggerx> all of the 3d ones are rought, but glxinfo | grep rendering is yes
[08:46] <DeagsDoesLinux> ok ill read that and if i dont underrstand it ask again
[08:46] <DeagsDoesLinux> thanks
[08:46] <seanzer> Daggerx: are you using xgl or xorg
[08:47] <levander> I thought AshtonK and Midget were in here helping me get hardware acceleration up and running.  Are they just gone?
[08:47] <Daggerx> xorg
[08:47] <Daggerx> i think
[08:47] <Hilob> Bleh
[08:47] <chimaera_> wats microsoft fonts for??
[08:47] <Hilob> Forget it, time to go back to BSD
[08:47] <h3xis> chimaera_, so you can have arial and what not in linux?
[08:47] <levander> Damn, I think they were in this channel.
[08:47] <chimaera_> ic ok
[08:47] <Tecnoman> hi
[08:47] <frogzoo> levander: which vid card?
[08:47] <Tecnoman> how is Feisty Fawn
[08:47] <cge> DeagsDoesLinux: Keep in mind while reading such things that if something is described as illegal in some countries, it is probably illegal in the US, it is highly unlikely that anyone will be prosecuted for it, and it is probably something you want.
[08:48] <frogzoo> Tecnoman: it's pretty alpha
[08:48] <Tecnoman> but dont works fine?
[08:48] <seanzer> Daggerx: there's a command to switch the opengl rendering to ati drivers instead of mesa
[08:48] <frogzoo> cge: but noone in this channel recommends you do anything illegal
[08:48] <levander> frogzoo: It's nvidia, I think I got it up and going.  But, Ashton told me "lsmod | grep nvidia-glx" would tell me if it's up and going.  There's no output for that command.  But, "glxinfo | grep rendering" says yes it is installed.
[08:48] <cge> frogzoo: I'm not recommending it.
[08:48] <Daggerx> how can i tell if its using mesa?
[08:49] <OkinawaInstructo> how can i share an external hard drive from one computer to another?
[08:49] <cge> frogzoo: In fact, I don't even have multiverse enabled on a variety of my machines.
[08:49] <h3xis> Daggerx, run fireglcontrol
[08:49] <levander> frogzoo: Do you remember an Ashton in here helping a bunch of people?  This may just be different channel.
[08:49] <h3xis> that will tell you
[08:49] <DeagsDoesLinux> ok its changed
[08:49] <frogzoo> !nvidia | levander
[08:49] <ubotu> levander: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:49] <seanzer> levander: glxinfo | grep rendering says yes direct rendering is on, doesn't mean the right driver is installed
[08:49] <DeagsDoesLinux> thanks cge
[08:49] <cbruno> best linux support oem : hp, gateway, dell who win???
[08:49] <h3xis> Daggerx, under Renderer
[08:49] <h3xis> it will say "mesa" or ati"
[08:49] <DeagsDoesLinux> now i can search for my games and find other good games?
[08:49] <spikeb> cbruno: you mean which of those guys has the most linux compatible machines?
[08:49] <seanzer> cbruno: dell
[08:50] <cbruno> yeah
[08:50] <seanzer> sadly :(
[08:50] <spikeb> cbruno: probably dell
[08:50] <cbruno> least headache
[08:50] <seanzer> hp runner up
[08:50] <BrendanM> I thought none of them officially supported Linux
[08:50] <seanzer> and gateway can choke
[08:50] <cflcm_> I am trying to set up mt-daapd.  If I download a file from the internet and put it in the daapd directory it is served just fine, but if I rip it other i
[08:50] <seanzer> on an ipod
[08:50] <Lynoure> cbruno: I do not know for sure, I always check component by component, to be sure.
[08:50] <Daggerx> ohh i get baddevice with that
[08:50] <seanzer> BrendanM: dell supports linux
[08:50] <cflcm_> ...other itunes can see it but not play it, wtf
[08:50] <neurotech> seanzer: I installed a Winamp 2 skin and it closed Audacious and now it wont restart - where can I find Audacious' config file to change the skin back to something that works?
[08:50] <spikeb> BrendanM: he's not asking about official support, just least headache hardware support. although dell does support linux officially on a lot of their business machines
[08:50] <seanzer> BrendanM: dell puts lots and lots of linux drivers
[08:50] <Daggerx> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[08:50] <seanzer> neurotech: ~/.something don't remember for sure right now.. to drunk
[08:51] <avalon> Okay... I so it looks like I'll be trying to rebuild the module..
[08:51] <cge> frogzoo: One of the problems with the notices in my opinion is that most people will assume they mean that the software is illegal in dictatorships and such places, when in reality it nearly always means that the software is illegal in the US and some other places.
[08:51] <BrendanM> but their tech people aren't trained to answer questions about Linux, at least not their consumer people
[08:51] <h3xis> Daggerx, you got that when you ran fireglcontrol?
[08:51] <cbruno> what about toshiba and acer?
[08:51] <Daggerx> yes
[08:51] <avalon> Don't suppos there's a step by step on module rebuilds is there?
[08:52] <Daggerx> ok sec, gonna reinstall fglrx-control
[08:52] <cge> seanzer: But that doesn't mean that Dell's tech support won't refuse to help you if you mention Linux.
[08:52] <DeagsDoesLinux> cge , now that i have enabled the universe thing i am good to go on searching for the games i have correct?
[08:52] <cge> DeagsDoesLinux: yes
[08:52] <DeagsDoesLinux> ok thanks
[08:52] <frogzoo> cge: ip laws vary widely across jurisdictions, & it's not even clear that, for instance, libdvdcss is illegal in the us
[08:52] <Daggerx> now things are mad, brb gotta reboot
[08:52] <seanzer> cge: it's true, but if you're an enterprise partner, they will
[08:53] <cbruno> yeah hp informed that i had voided my warranty after I installed breezy
[08:53] <seanzer> cge: they send out techs to help fix w/e issues with your servers and/or workstations, they also set up shitty linux distros for you (SuSE and RH enterprise)
[08:54] <frogzoo> cbruno: installing s/w is a breech of warranty? which moron at tech support did you contact?
[08:54] <cbruno> some dude in india or malaysia
[08:54] <neurotech> ta seanzer
[08:54] <frogzoo> cbruno: he doesn't speak for the company, as he's clearly an idiot
[08:54] <cbruno> i bought one of those lame no recovery disk windows is on a partition machines at best buy
[08:54] <cbruno> put breezy on it
[08:54] <BrendanM> Yeah, well if you're an enterprise customer, hardware manufacturers will just about come give you a reach-around if you call them
[08:54] <cbruno> wanted disks just in case
[08:55] <cbruno> hp wouldnt send um
[08:55] <BrendanM> if your company bought enough stuff from HP, I'm sure they'd send whatever techs you wanted
[08:55] <jw_606> Hello, How do I get  3D acceleration working in VMware ? I am using Ubuntu 6.10 and have Windows XP pro on a VMware vrdrive
[08:55] <holycow> jw_606, i don't think vmware is capable of that yet for win clients
[08:55] <holycow> win guests
[08:56] <daggerx> ack that hurt
[08:56] <holycow> jw_606, that would strickly be a feature enabled by the vmware tools btw
[08:56] <frogzoo> jw_606: 3d in vmware - lol - can't be done afaik - you'd need emulation of 3d h/w, and that seems pretty pointless
[08:56] <holycow> which are easy to install in a win guest
[08:57] <jw_606> Well I'm trying to get 'ProQuake' running in Linux but I get errors when I try to run it :/ so I figured I'd try it in Vmware
[08:57] <daggerx> ok, it show's OpenGL:   vendor ATI Technologies Inc  version 2.0.6174  Renderer: ATI Mobility Radeon X1300 Generic
[08:57] <cbruno> what if besy buy started selling ubuntu machines
[08:57] <cbruno> that would be cool
[08:57] <daggerx> and screen savers still messed up
[08:57] <h3xis> daggerx, i have that same card
[08:57] <holycow> jw_606, search up the vmware forums on their site maybe there is more updated info there
[08:57] <h3xis> daggerx, you wouldnt happen to have a thinkpad would you?
[08:57] <holycow> jw_606, its hard to support something as proprietary as vmware
[08:57] <frogzoo> jw_606: you'd do better to get native linux working
[08:57] <daggerx> no its a dell
[08:58] <daggerx> 1505
[08:58] <Lynoure> cbruno: Why Best Buy? Some companies already do sell e.g. laptops with Linux preinstalled
[08:58] <h3xis> daggerx, i run debian and i got it to work. im not sure if it would work for you
[08:58] <fowlduck> cbruno: www.system76.com
[08:58] <daggerx> i can play even games like PPracer, chromium ect
[08:58] <neurotech> How do I change the default application that opens video files?
[08:58] <daggerx> get full acceleration
[08:58] <cbruno> best buy is brick and motar
[08:58] <daggerx> but the screensavers mess up with updated drivers
[08:59] <h3xis> dont use the updated drivers then
[08:59] <daggerx> like thye dont have acceleration
[08:59] <OkinawaInstructo> how can i share an external hard drive from one computer to another?
[08:59] <StormGuy> What's a good computer manufacturer for Linux users?  I've had a fairly difficult time getting my Gateway laptop Ubuntu-ready and...if I had to buy another computer in the future, who would you suggest buying from?  Is there a very Linux-friendly company out there?
[08:59] <holycow> StormGuy, no such thing
[08:59] <daggerx> dell 1505 is good on ubuntu
[08:59] <holycow> couple of rules for buying systems
[08:59] <StormGuy> holycow, I was afraid of that :(
[08:59] <cbruno> hp dv1000 series is excellent
[08:59] <holycow> a: desktops you should NEVER buy from a brand name
[08:59] <cflcm_> anyone here use mt-daapd
[08:59] <daggerx> everything but ati worked from start
[08:59] <h3xis> daggerx, just curious, how much is vram?
[08:59] <holycow> brand manufactures sell th elabel, they will stuff anything they can depending on supply in the box
[09:00] <daggerx> 128meg
[09:00] <cge> cbruno: About HP - I would contact someone higher up - you certainly have not voided your warranty.
[09:00] <neurotech> How do I change the default application that opens video files?
[09:00] <holycow> b) for laptops you don't have a lot of choice to build your self, so you must buy for the chipset
[09:00] <jw_606> frogzoo, I am new to Linux, I try to compile ProQuake but I get this error "Error: memory overwrite in Sys_Printf"
[09:00] <holycow> currently for laptops you should prioritize intell ONLY chipset models
[09:00] <frogzoo> !hardware | StormGuy you're best off checking support for the h/w of any particular model
[09:00] <cbruno> yeah i hope your right
[09:00] <ubotu> StormGuy you're best off checking support for the h/w of any particular model: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[09:00] <holycow> the brand doesn't make any difference
[09:00] <Lynoure> StormGuy: http://www.linux-laptop.net/ is handy, too
[09:00] <holycow> c) you can't just buy stuff randomly you haveto buy for the chipset
[09:00] <cbruno> anything with intel chipsets will work very well
[09:00] <cge> holycow: Well, the brand of the chipset is important.
[09:01] <daggerx> I like AMD chipsets lol
[09:01] <holycow> i'm thinking of starting up a company to help out with these purchases my self
[09:01] <holycow> i'm tired of dealing with manufacturers aind know nothing retailers
[09:01] <cbruno> avoid exotic AMD and ati chipsets
[09:01] <pegs> i have an asus a7jc.. other than wifi and inbuilt tv, everything seems to work fine
[09:01] <holycow> amd chipsets are VERY problematic
[09:01] <holycow> i just bought 6 mobos with latest amd chipsets
[09:01] <holycow> biiiiig mistake
[09:01] <daggerx> i havent had much problems on my other computer
[09:01] <spikeb> intel chipsets are very well supported
[09:02] <daggerx> intel is great support especially in linux
[09:02] <holycow> i like amd and love to support the underdog but the chipset companies that ship with amd cpus are basically gargabe imho
[09:02] <StormGuy> daggerx, save for that snd-hda-intel soundcard :(
[09:02] <cbruno> if you get intel chipset with intel GMA graphics and intel PRO wireless, ubuntu will work right out of the box
[09:02] <spikeb> yep
[09:02] <holycow> i used to be able to live with it but in the end they are all a joke featurewise and open source compatability wise
[09:02] <frogzoo> StormGuy now that hp, ibm, hp are starting to offer commercial linux support, you could review their product range to find out what they're running linux on
[09:03] <StormGuy> frogzoo, oh?  That's a pretty appealing option :)
[09:03] <holycow> the problem with those companies is JUST TRY to order a linux laptop or desktop
[09:03] <daggerx> my ubuntu worked off the cd after i modded it with a script to load ati drivers
[09:03] <daggerx> :P
[09:03] <cge> Talking about laptops, I've been thinking about buying a new one, but have been concerned about buying one with shared graphics (Intel, of course), since I have always had dedicated. How is the Intel integrated video with Ubuntu, especially in comparison to, say, a 32MB ATI  M9000 with the open source driver?
[09:03] <frogzoo> holycow: ibm is very behind linux
[09:03] <spikeb> system76.com sells ubuntu computers :)
[09:03] <holycow> oh add another point to the above list
[09:03] <holycow> d: NEVER EVER buy anything with ati in it
[09:03] <spikeb> cge: much better, if you have a 950 or better
[09:03] <pegs> daggerx: nice
[09:04] <cbruno> you can also get nvidia chipset
[09:04] <holycow> frogzoo, total bullshit.  they support it as long as you are willing to pay $150 / hr for global services they offer
[09:04] <cge> spikeb: In terms of speed as well?
[09:04] <spikeb> cge: yes
[09:04] <daggerx> just remember ... many games dont support anything but nvidia and ati (incase you put windows on too)
[09:04] <cbruno> just stay the heck away from new AMD and ati
[09:04] <cge> cbruno: I don't like binary drivers.
[09:04] <holycow> jus try to get anything ibm with linux on it outside of redhat / suse and some contract
[09:04] <holycow> its a joke
[09:04] <frogzoo> holycow: dude, you've not right to be both dismissive and course :p
[09:04] <cbruno> better than no drivers
[09:04] <chimaera> is it possible to get a cam built into my laptop to work?
[09:04] <holycow> i deal with ibm
[09:04] <holycow> i'm totally correct to be dismissive
[09:05] <holycow> their vendor support for desktop level things is windows only, you won't find anyone that has a clue about linux
[09:05] <spikeb> cge: if you dont like binary drivers, get something with an intel integrated video chipset
[09:05] <cge> holycow: HP actually sells many systems without a full OS (unless you consider FreeDOS to be a full OS).
[09:05] <StormGuy> I've notice older laptops tend to take to Linux much better than new ones
[09:05] <cbruno> intel GMA 950 is very good
[09:05] <spikeb> cbruno: aye
[09:05] <holycow> cge, i heard they even offer laptops with ubuntu
[09:06] <holycow> i've yet to see a way to order one online
[09:06] <cbruno> for most apps you wont be able to tell that its shared
[09:06] <frogzoo> holycow: ibm have a serious prolinux agenda, if they're not delivering to a standard you like at the moment, it's the business, not the politics
[09:06] <holycow> i don't even know what # to call to order an hp laptop withubuntu
[09:06] <holycow> but thats not even the issue
[09:06] <holycow> one shouldn't buy a brand
[09:06] <cge> holycow: They only sell them in "select markets", if I recall.
[09:06] <cbruno> i ran ppracer on my GMA and compared it with it on my NVIDIA graphics card
[09:06] <holycow> you haveto buy for the chipset, because eventually you will be supporting your self and you need a supported chipset
[09:06] <xipietotec> holycow: unfortunately, laptops are brand ridden
[09:06] <StormGuy> Also, my girlfriend's Toshiba ran everything perfectly right out of the box with Ubuntu...but my Gateway required some work to get the wireless to work...and I can't ever get sound, really.
[09:06] <holycow> cge, *nod* yeah basically pointless
[09:06] <jw_606> How do I fix this error? "/usr/include/asm-i386/io.h:4:26: error: linux/string.h: No such file or directory"
[09:07] <StormGuy> Is Toshiba a good Linux company, or was that just a fluke?
[09:07] <holycow> xipietotec, right thats why you don't buy 'hp' you google and find out what model has what chipset
[09:07] <cbruno> of course, higher resolution on the NVIDIA card, but not much difference at standard 1024x768 res
[09:07] <cge> holycow: I would buy a specific brand if they were to reliably support Ubuntu.
[09:07] <StormGuy> good company for Linux*
[09:07] <psch_hans> is this a known issue? i upgraded from 6.06 to 6.10 ... after rebbot "failed to start x server"
[09:07] <xipietotec> holycow: oh, absolutely, although you can also go to emperorlinux.com and buy laptops preconfigured and whatnot
[09:07] <holycow> frogzoo, ibm really have bought into linux but i deal with them.  its all just a bunch of bull to sell their global services at $150 / hr
[09:07] <spikeb> system76 sells ubuntu laptops - rebranded asus laptops i believe
[09:07] <holycow> frogzoo, you won't be getting anything but a server with linux installed on it from them
[09:07] <holycow> or desktop support
[09:07] <cbruno> anyone see those laptons from emperor linux
[09:07] <cge> spikeb: Yes.
[09:08] <holycow> xipietotec, right that probably is the best way
[09:08] <cbruno> ha- a new elementary partcile---the lapton
[09:08] <spikeb> haha
[09:08] <spikeb> out of my price range, those emperor lappies
[09:09] <cbruno> why are they so overpriced
[09:09] <frogzoo> StormGuy: you'll find many good reports for various toshiba models: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam
[09:09] <spikeb> cbruno: it seems many smaller dealers are vastly overpriced.
[09:09] <xipietotec> cbruno: custom kernel, pre-configured, custom made for emperor linux, niche market
[09:09] <cbruno> you could by 3 windows laptops with same configs for the price of 1 emp linux laptop
[09:09] <cge> cbruno: system76 actually has reasonable prices, as does laclinux
[09:09] <cbruno> yeah but isnt part of the spirit of linux that its CHEAPER than M$
[09:09] <spikeb> cbruno: and since anyone who sells linux hardware at the consumer level is a smaller dealer, we tend to get the bad end of the stick.
[09:09] <cge> cbruno: no
[09:09] <dxdt> yeah system76 is more reasonable
[09:10] <dxdt> still  bit off
[09:10] <midgetg0at> cheaper? no.
[09:10] <midgetg0at> id imagine linux techs are more expensive than windows.
[09:10] <midgetg0at> supply and demand....
[09:10] <spikeb> dxdt: not really, loook at the prices of the asus laptops without the system76 branding: it's like ten dollars cheaper.
[09:10] <frogzoo> StormGuy: also: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/Toshiba
[09:10] <pegger> xmms don't play the vqf with vqf plugin. why??? somebody help.
[09:10] <holycow> cbruno i doubt the features are the same
[09:11] <dxdt> spikeb, what do you mean not really if it is only ten dollars off that's exactly what I said with "still a bit off"
[09:11] <cge> spikeb: But if I recall, emperorlinux is several hundred dollars over the prices of the laptops from the original brands.
[09:11] <spikeb> dxdt: ten dollars is not a bit. it's miniscule.
[09:11] <spikeb> cge: heh yeah that would not surprise me
[09:11] <cbruno> yeah they charge 2400 for a rebranded ibm tablet
[09:11] <cbruno> that ibm sells for 1200
[09:11] <spikeb> mmm thinkpads
[09:11] <cbruno> with windows
[09:12] <holycow> cbruno, your completely misinterpretting something
[09:12] <dxdt> spikeb, so you are now arguing with me that when I said a "bit" I should have said "miniscule"  omg whatever....
[09:12] <spikeb> dxdt: aye.
[09:12] <holycow> thats simply not possible even in specialized markets
[09:12] <spikeb> dxdt: i spend too much time in political channels
[09:12] <cge> holycow: Take a look at emperorlinux  - the prices really are that absurd, if I recall correctly.
[09:13] <StormGuy> frogzoo, thanks
[09:13] <frogzoo> StormGuy: yw
[09:13] <StormGuy> cge, I just discovered that...good grief :(
[09:13] <cbruno> i mean i like ubuntu---but it should be more than a hobby os
[09:13] <jw_606> Here is the error I get, can someone help me with this? http://paste.getlinuxhelp.org/54893
[09:13] <cbruno> I like the idea of the 100 laptop project
[09:14] <cge> cbruno: It is only a hobby OS from a home desktop user perspective.
[09:14] <holycow> cge, incorrect
[09:14] <holycow> we are switching our entire company to it
[09:14] <cbruno> yeah but I think ubuntu can be used to get people acccess to technology that they otherwise could not afford
[09:14] <holycow> its a hobby to cluebies
[09:15] <cge> holycow: Err, that is exactly what I said. It is only a hobby OS from the standpoint of the home desktop user.
[09:15] <holycow> if you know what you are doing its easy to put to very serious use
[09:15] <holycow> again incorrect
[09:15] <cge> holycow: And even then, only general home users.
[09:15] <holycow> again incorrect
[09:15] <holycow> it depends on what you really mean by 'hobby'
[09:15] <holycow> a hobby is something you take up as an interest
[09:16] <cbruno> i think what cge is saying is that most people who use ubuntu in the HOME tend to be techies/geeks
[09:16] <holycow> a product is something you buy and pay service for
[09:16] <holycow> i have 6 home users running ubuntu as parto f a pilot project (users were prescreened of course)
[09:16] <holycow> what you might mean is that you can't exactly buy an ubuntu preinstalled home system for a home user
[09:16] <cbruno> to even know about ubuntu in the first place means you research technology issues
[09:17] <holycow> or get support for it at  your local repair shop
[09:17] <Lynoure> holycow: I was just looking at a site that offered just that
[09:17] <Lynoure> holycow: but it was here in Finland
[09:17] <cge> holycow: By hobby I mean that I believe most non-developer/academic/sysadmin/etc. home users right now take up Ubuntu as a hobby rather than a serious OS, unfortunately, and that is in large part due to the lack of preinstallation and such things.
[09:17] <holycow> cbruno, probably for the most part right now.  there is also the marketing perspective
[09:17] <holycow> no one is really selling / pushing ubuntu
[09:17] <holycow> not one of our clients really knew much about linux until we educated them selves for example
[09:18] <holycow> which is kind of like most windows users ... none of them research it, they only know about it  because their friends use it and all the retailers push it
[09:18] <holycow> cge, i think that probably might be correct
[09:18] <cge> holycow: It depends on the market, I guess. Most people in Physics in academia know quite a bit about it.
[09:18] <holycow> we are moving from uber geek to power user demographic indeed
[09:19] <holycow> but we are seeing  A LOT of cross demographic bleed
[09:19] <holycow> a lot more 'regular' users are finding it easy to get into too ... i would agree its probably a small percentage
[09:19] <holycow> okay so let me ask you this guys
[09:20] <seanzer> i don't agree for the mass migration over to linux
[09:20] <seanzer> it's like a club for us ;)
[09:20] <holycow> if there was a company offering linux based laptops online, would that be of any interest?
[09:20] <h3xis> oh my
[09:20] <cge> oh dear
[09:20] <h3xis> haha
[09:20] <Lynoure> hmmm.
[09:20] <seanzer> lol
[09:20] <holycow> i mean something specifically offering ubuntu, and keeping prices close to retail win machines?
[09:20] <seanzer> +i :(
[09:20] <h3xis> lol internetz.
[09:21] <seanzer> holycow: the prices can easily be lower.. but no one gets up one day and says, hey i want a linux computer
[09:21] <seanzer> holycow: and there are a lot of places taht do offer linux as the os
[09:21] <spikeb> i do
[09:21] <seanzer> brb
[09:21] <Lynoure> holycow: there are such companies and yes, they are of interest, but do you mean to us or to a random person?
[09:21] <spikeb> in fact, i wake up every day and say that
[09:21] <holycow> seanzer, for easmple?  you mean crappy places like sub300.com or whatever?
[09:21] <holycow> i don't think going after the random user is usefull at all
[09:22] <holycow> personally, i wouldn't want to actually deal with the average windows customer
[09:22] <Lynoure> holycow: Ironically, to a computer newbie Linux can be much less hassle than Windows.
[09:22] <pegs> some people like nuking the machine and re-installing the os freash..
[09:22] <holycow> Lynoure, thats what we have found too
[09:22] <holycow> Lynoure, infact its easier to pick up the less you know indeed
[09:22] <cge> holycow: I would certainly be interested in a company offering Ubuntu laptops, but if you are going to go after power users and such you would have to deal with specific wants.
[09:23] <cge> For example, I am unlikely to buy a laptop with a screen that has a resolution of less than 124 dpi, or that weighs more than 6 pounds.
[09:23] <Lynoure> holycow: Yes, I noticed that with my mother. No nasty MS windows habits to keep her from getting used of Linux
[09:23] <nixternal> holy cow
[09:23] <seanzer> still goin on
[09:23] <X-Ception> the bot's are back.
[09:23] <X-Ception> ugh.
[09:23] <cge> The attack is specific to #ubuntu, it seems.
[09:24] <nixternal> ya cge, one of them punks tried to get me
[09:24] <holycow> Lynoure, yup its pretty emazing.  what we have found out is that people don't learn to use computers.  they memorize the size, shape an dposition of the gui widgets.  its harder for a win user to switch because they spent 15 years memorizing the windows gui
[09:24] <cge> Could someone please set the registration requirement?
[09:26] <chimaera> using ls, how do i list only files starting with a certain character? example h* or hi*
[09:26] <petafile> Is there an easy way to change the text color on the panel in beryl? (is it different from metacity?)
[09:26] <h3xis> is the fun over?
[09:26] <nixternal> no, because they are still trying to dcc me
[09:26] <cge> chimaera: ls h* or ls hi*
[09:27] <chimaera> cge: how do i prevent it from listing the contents of the directories
[09:27] <cge> chimaera: oh
[09:27] <cge> chimaera: -d I think
[09:27] <frogzoo> holycow: if I could buy online a linux laptop, that would be where I'd go, but it's a hard call, because buyers would expect _everything_ to work, and work out of the box
[09:27] <nixternal> jeesh, they just don't stop
[09:27] <chimaera> cge: yay thnx
[09:27] <h3xis> nixternal, piss someone off? :P
[09:27] <nixternal> hehe must have
[09:28] <OkinawaInstructo> can someone help me set up a printer
[09:28] <frogzoo> holycow: and even then, there would be the 2nd wave of people trying to connect their laptops into the corporate doze network
[09:29] <holycow> frogzoo, that wouldn't be an issue at all
[09:29] <frogzoo> holycow: you mean h/w support, or the doze lan ?
[09:29] <holycow> people have enough problems just connecting windows to a network, its something everyone expects to be a problem
[09:29] <holycow> win lan
[09:30] <frogzoo> holycow: for instance, there's no good ntlm agent for linux
[09:30] <holycow> ubuntu just works on that level anyway, samaba works gbreat
[09:30] <StormGuy> Kinda off-topic...but from what little I've seen of Linux, it seems like the more people that use the operating system...the more it grows (almost exponentially) just due to the nature of it.  It's kinda depressing that more people don't use it.  The computing world would really benefit :(
[09:30] <holycow> frogzoo, anyone that  needs that should either complain to their sysadmin or stay on windows.
[09:30] <J-_> woo hooo Linux successfully reformatted on dualboot.
[09:30] <frogzoo> holycow: 2nd, evolution's support for exchange is hairy
[09:30] <StormGuy> Or I could be totally wrong
[09:30] <holycow> oh yeah exchange isn't something i would care about at all
[09:30] <holycow> users would be on their own
[09:31] <frogzoo> holycow: and then there's syncing to pocketpcs, it's a very grey area
[09:31] <holycow> its their own fault for using crap like exchange
[09:31] <holycow> heh
[09:31] <Erb_> How do you paste external data in VIM (copied from another application)
[09:31] <Lynoure> StormGuy: if you look at servers, Linux is already more popular than on the desktop
[09:31] <holycow> yeah again its their fault for buying garbage devices with on cross platform support
[09:32] <cge> Erb_: "+p
[09:32] <StormGuy> Lynoure, truly?  I've heard that Google uses it
[09:32] <holycow> frogzoo, my feeling is to put together a company that sells all stuff that either 'just works' on linux or 'just works' in a cross platform way
[09:32] <cge> Erb_: In general, the + register is the X clipboard
[09:32] <holycow> there isn't a lot of it out there
[09:32] <holycow> but i have no sympathy for people expecting random electronics to just magically work together
[09:33] <h3xis> holycow, that's like 80% of the planet
[09:33] <seanzer> silly people
[09:33] <petafile> What's the easiest way to change the color of panel text w/ beryl?
[09:33] <J-_> like creative zen's and Ubuntu.. took me 2-3 days to figure out how to install, finally found a good tutorial and it worked awesome.
[09:33] <Erb_> Thanks cge - might map ctrl-v
[09:33] <h3xis> most people think that 802.11 is "magic"
[09:33] <holycow> yeah, it's not like i would be interested in anything but a very tiny fractkion of a percent
[09:34] <seanzer> like my car, it took me 10 years to figure out how to wire the electronics back together
[09:34] <J-_> cge: yeah thanks for the good heads up =D (the dualboot) it worked =D
[09:34] <cge> J-_: Finding a good tutorial is key to many thing in Linux.
[09:35] <Lynoure> StormGuy: many companies, big and small use Linux in their servers. Maybe I can find you some statistics...
[09:35] <frogzoo> cge: J-_ man -k is your friend
[09:35] <J-_> cge: that's what i've learned, if there were none... i'd be skunked...
[09:35] <Rookie_> tldp ....
[09:35] <slide> I have a motherboard that can boot from any device before any os loads up, I installed windows on hdc, and just now I installed ubuntu on the second half of hdc, but when i boot hdc from the bios, it says invalid os or something like that, any ideas?
[09:35] <xipietotec> Lynoure: Linux has something like 76% market share in the server market
[09:35] <seanzer> don't you mean sco?
[09:35] <seanzer> haha
[09:36] <holycow> slide, why are you using the bios to select the os from your hd?
[09:36] <holycow> let the bootlaoder do it
[09:36] <xipietotec> of course....most of those are RHEL or FC
[09:36] <slide> holycow: well, I have OSX on my first hd
[09:36] <Rookie_> http://www.tldp.org/
[09:36] <UHUY> Any Apache experts here ? I need help with installilng mod_rewrite for running CakePHP
[09:36] <slide> never really bothered trying to figure out how to setup all that
[09:36] <J-_> frogzoo: huh? :S
[09:36] <cge> xipietotec: I'm not sure that FC has more than us.
[09:36] <holycow> slide, ohhhh osx -_-  i don't know a lot about mac hardware specifics
[09:36] <seanzer> ewwwwwww
[09:36] <StormGuy> xipietotec: I'd always heard people talking about how great Windows Server 2003 was...I had no idea Ubuntu was so big in the server world @_@
[09:37] <seanzer> one of the devs from php came here to talk about how mod_rewrite was something he DIDN'T like
[09:37] <holycow> are macs powered by ati graphics chips or nvidia ones?
[09:37] <cge> StormGuy: *Ubuntu* isn't - Linux is.
[09:37] <h3xis> nvidia, i believe
[09:37] <J-_> LAMP is wicked
[09:37] <slide> I think the way the bios boots any disk is it makes it seem like its the primary master, dunno though
[09:37] <seanzer> ati
[09:37] <petafile> holycow, looks like the newest ones are intel
[09:37] <xipietotec> StormGuy: people who say windows server 2003 is great....probably have never ran linux =P
[09:37] <StormGuy> cge: whoops, misread
[09:37] <petafile> or the macbook i'm looking at at least
[09:37] <frogzoo> StormGuy: ubuntu's not that big yet - RHEL is the big linux player for servers, for the moment
[09:37] <ck41> Hi all, Would anyone here kind enough to help me to track down the problem i'm having in Firefox, please?
[09:37] <petafile> for real though, is there a nice easy way to change the color of panel text w/ beryl?
[09:38] <seanzer> xipietotec: i bet you've never run vista ultimate
[09:38] <xipietotec> seanzer: and I have no desire to really
[09:38] <seanzer> ck41: if you would be more specific i'm sure someone can help
[09:38] <GreyGhost> xipietotec ,most servers have been running *nix for a long time now....
[09:38] <J-_> I should have installed 6.10, i'll settle for 6.06 til 6.10 is really really stable.
[09:38] <seanzer> petafile: what's your window manager?
[09:38] <cge> ck41: Unless it is a question about DPI settings not being followed accurately, in which case no one will know the answer.
[09:38] <petafile> seanzer, beryl
[09:38] <frogzoo> J-_: I think you'll find 6.06 LTS will always be more stable than 6.10
[09:39] <xipietotec> GreyGhost: I wish I could convince my mom of that. (She's a windows sys-admin and linux-phobe)
[09:39] <cge> J-_: Upgrading to 6.10 is rather easy.
[09:39] <seanzer> petafile: i mean.. window decorator
[09:39] <frogzoo> J-_: for the simple reason that 6.06 will be supported for 5 years, 6.10 only 2
[09:39] <GreyGhost> xipietotec , ppl have their preferences ;)
[09:39] <petafile> seanzer how do I check?
[09:39] <pegs-using-e17> atiwish i could use 6.10 :(
[09:39] <ck41> seanzer:  right. i need someone to check the ajax page with firefox which runs very slowly ONLY with firefox.  http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/examples/dragdrop/list.html?mode=dist
[09:39] <seanzer> petafile: well.. are you using gnome?
[09:39] <cge> xipietotec: The style of administration is very different between the two, so admins on one tend to dislike the other.
[09:39] <xipietotec> Sun has released a clone of Aero by the way....for free...on all systems capable of running java
[09:39] <petafile> yeah
[09:40] <J-_> cge: ah i see
[09:40] <J-_> cge:  makes sense
[09:40] <seanzer> ck41: doesn't surprise me
[09:40] <holycow> xipietotec, thats a piece of junk
[09:40] <holycow> its also not a clone
[09:40] <pegs-using-e17> what do you mean by slow?
[09:40] <seanzer> i wonder how much more stress we've put on servers by using http.config.pipelining
[09:40] <petafile> seanzer seems its emerald
[09:40] <bakks> i have a quick question, i mounted a hard drive to a folder, and now i cant do anything with it unless i am root, how do i fix it?
[09:40] <ck41> seanzer:  the list is "sortable" (draggable). it works smoothly in Opera or Wine IE, or WinXP(vm)'s Firefox & IE
[09:40] <seanzer> petafile: then use emerald's theme manager
[09:40] <xipietotec> holycow: I hadn't tried running it yet
[09:41] <cge> c4Ok, runs slowly with ff, let me try using opera.
[09:41] <petafile> seanzer, where can you change the panel's properties in emerald?
[09:41] <cge> Err, ck41
[09:41] <holycow> xipietotec, its java based garbage ... give it a whirl but it will never be adopetd by anyone in the general set of linux distributions
[09:41] <ck41> but its slow and lagged and jerky in firefox (so far, only linux)
[09:41] <holycow> xipietotec, we have at least 2 other implemenations, xgl and aiglx that are superior and have hardware vendor support
[09:42] <GreyGhost> xipietotec , u mean looking glass?
[09:42] <spikeb> xgl and aiglx are not 3d
[09:42] <holycow> aiglx looks like will be the defacto standard despite glx having some interesting hoopla surrounding it via beryl and such
[09:42] <spikeb> looking glass is.
[09:42] <cge> ck41: Yes, it is much faster in opera.
[09:42] <holycow> of course they are 3d
[09:42] <holycow> wtf are  you talking about?
[09:42] <holycow> glx and aiglx are hardware accelerated just as looking glass is
[09:42] <spikeb> have you actually USED looking glass? the ENITRE desktop is 3d. all of it.
[09:42] <slide> What packages do I need to compile most things?
[09:42] <GreyGhost> xipietotec ,if u mean that .... then its been around for some time....
[09:42] <xipietotec> holycow: I'm aware of that, thought I might check the java one out though....I actually think Java is going to be important for developing interoperable apps...much as I like python, there are more java developers, and java is on more non PC platforms
[09:42] <petafile> oh well, I'm out
[09:42] <holycow> everything else is a 'special effect' within that context
[09:43] <h3xis> slide, build-essential
[09:43] <NineTeen67Comet> Grrr .. how can I move ALL items in a directory (to include hidden, and sub-directories) to another directory? .. Every time I try it makes a new directory with all the stuff in it .. eg: cp -Rv /home/justin /media/new-home/justin .. created /media/new-home/justin/justin .. all I want is the stuff, not the directory and all it's stuff ..
[09:43] <pegs-using-e17> ck41: using minefield.. seems ok
[09:43] <cge> holycow: I think the idea is that looking glass is actually 3d as in moving windows around in 3d, a rather strange and not very useful idea.
[09:43] <frogzoo> ck41: no discernible difference between ff2 & ie6
[09:43] <J-_> When this updating is done, on grub it'll show 2 kernel versions. Should I just leave it like that, or is that the only option.. or can I delete the first one, and keep the newest?
[09:43] <holycow> xipietotec, oh yeah of course.  :) fun right?  java is very important in that area already, its the defining reason its used *nod*
[09:43] <slide> h3xis: thank you
[09:43] <holycow> cge, no thats wrong, the basic ida is that you take the current desktop and accelerate it on the gpu
[09:43] <cge> J-_: Always best to have two kernels there in case one breaks.
[09:43] <holycow> thus all 3 are 3d by default
[09:44] <J-_> cge: k cool, thanks dude.
[09:44] <spikeb> that's not the point of looking glass at all - that's a necessary side effect.
[09:44] <holycow> all that differnetiates the basic idea behind them are the 3d effects used to 'interpret' what a desktop / window manager is
[09:44] <ck41> cge & pegs-using-e17 & frogzoo : thanks for testing! hmm i'm confused now
[09:44] <cge> holycow: I know - but the basic idea of looking glass is that the desktop is *actually three dimensional*, if I recall, as opposed to systems using 3d acceleration.
[09:44] <frogzoo> slide: 'build-essential'
[09:44] <ivanoats> hi, all of a sudden I can't start tomboy - I get (Tomboy:4286): libtomboy-WARNING **: Binding '<Alt>F12' failed!
[09:44] <holycow> cge, like i said
[09:45] <holycow> it's just an effect
[09:45] <cge> holycow: So would you consider wmii or ion3 to be "just special effects"?
[09:45] <holycow> there are a log of apps that do some sort of lame 3D'ness to windows and window management types of functions
[09:45] <pegs-using-e17> ck41: confused??
[09:45] <bernhard> Good mornig
[09:45] <xipietotec> holycow: which is why it's OMGWTFBBQAWESOME that Java is now GPL'd.
[09:45] <holycow> cge, i would yes *nod*
[09:45] <J-_> ... lol
[09:45] <cge> holycow: Hmm...
[09:46] <MikeyMike> what is /sys/block ??
[09:46] <MikeyMike> what resides there
[09:46] <holycow> cge, i could well be wrong in my interpretation :)
[09:46] <MikeyMike> dm-0 i see......
[09:46] <ck41> pegs-using-e17:  yes.. cge and me gets slow down, but not you & frogzoo's end.
[09:46] <xipietotec> even though Java is in my FFox...and Firefox eats all my memory
[09:46] <GreyGhost> nice ... Java being GPL ed will be bugless and much faster in no time...
[09:46] <cge> ck41: I am probably running too many things right now.
[09:47] <frogzoo> ck41: ff2, sun java & edgy here, runs np
[09:47] <xipietotec> GreyGhost: hahahaha, that's what they said about Firefox =P
[09:47] <pegs-using-e17> whats frogzoo running (firefox version)... and other apps??
[09:47] <ck41> pegs-using-e17:  can you check if this works same speed on FF & Opera? (more noticeable here)  http://script.aculo.us/playground/test/functional/sortable_tree_test.html
[09:47] <pegs-using-e17> i got dapper, e17 and minefield
[09:47] <J-_> hrm.... downloading packages 18.9 kb/s.. =S
[09:47] <MikeyMike> what is /proc and all the sub directories? is it okay to store files there
[09:47] <lanlos1> anyone prefer kopete over gaim?
[09:48] <ck41> cge:  but if it works much smoother in opera, running many things shouldn't matter...
[09:48] <J-_> i like amsn
[09:48] <holycow> java isn't slow
[09:48] <chimaera> is there an easier way to share files other than using samb
[09:48] <seanzer>  /proc is the heart of your computer
[09:48] <chimaera> is there an easier way to share files other than using samba
[09:48] <holycow> the problem with java its fairly low level and hard to write in
[09:48] <lanlos1> amsn work with multiple networks?
[09:48] <J-_> not sure
[09:48] <cge> ck41: It could be that something else was running when I tested in in ff, and not running when testing it in opera.
[09:48] <seanzer> you can make your computer magically have different pieces of hardware by putting it in /proc
[09:48] <holycow> and you get java devs making apps that are poorly engineered at least on the desktop
[09:48] <seanzer> like instant noodles
[09:48] <seanzer> !
[09:49] <frogzoo> chimaera: nfs perhaps
[09:49] <lanlos1> I love the irc client in gaim but I love the instant messanger features of kopete
[09:49] <lanlos1> over the irc in kopete
[09:49] <h3xis> samba is pretty easy
[09:49] <J-_> irssi ftw =D
[09:49] <ck41> frogzoo:  Would you check this site too? this is also "sortable list"> http://script.aculo.us/playground/test/functional/sortable_tree_test.html
[09:49] <h3xis> i dont think it can get any easier than that
[09:49] <lanlos1> and there doesn't seem to be file transfers in kopete
[09:49] <pegs-using-e17> ck41: its a bit laggy in following the cursor (less than half a second lag) in minefield
[09:49] <xipietotec> lanlos1: so you're the one person who likes gaim's IRC client
[09:49] <chimaera> hmm i edited samba.conf to change my workgroup name but its still the same... i think restarting the daemon will help but how do i do that
[09:49] <xipietotec> I did not believe you existed
[09:50] <h3xis> chimaera, /etc/init.d/samba restart? i think?
[09:50] <seanzer> irssi > *
[09:50] <x-r00t-x> hello . can anyone tell me how do i use .conkyrc?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865
[09:50] <h3xis> bitchx > irssi
[09:51] <chimaera> works :)
[09:51] <pegs-using-e17> brb
[09:51] <surface_> h3xis, irssi uses alt 1 2 3 4 to shift channel, can i bind it with my key?
[09:51] <ck41> pegs-using-e17:  here i get maybe moer than 1 sec lag the item follow the pointer.. hmm
[09:51] <h3xis> surface_, i dont use irssi...much. ask seanzer
[09:51] <surface_> sorry
[09:52] <seanzer> LOL, you jerk.
[09:52] <x-r00t-x> h3xis, can youi tell me how to use bitchx ?
[09:52] <h3xis> hahaha
[09:52] <h3xis> x-r00t-x, google can.
[09:52] <J-_> surface_: http://www.irssi.org
[09:52] <seanzer> hahahahha
[09:52] <seanzer> bitchx is just some fancy colors for irssi
[09:52] <seanzer> lol
[09:53] <seanzer> supposed to make you feel like l33t hax0rz
[09:53] <h3xis> i used bitchx before xchat
[09:53] <x-r00t-x> !conkyrc
[09:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about conkyrc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:53] <seanzer> i'd use kvirc over xhat
[09:53] <x-r00t-x> !.conkyrc
[09:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about conkyrc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:53] <h3xis> kvirc is kde though?
[09:53] <J-_> I used xchat, then I haerd about terminal irc programs, tried bitchx then went to irssi
[09:54] <frogzoo> ck41: seems usable if a bit slow on the lappie
[09:54] <J-_> kvirc works in gnome heh
[09:54] <x-r00t-x> !offtpic
[09:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about offtpic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:54] <h3xis> haha
[09:54] <h3xis> oh man...
[09:55] <x-r00t-x> !offtopic
[09:55] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:55] <holycow> i've settled on xchat now that it has a hierarchical tab view
[09:55] <ck41> frogzoo:  Do you have other browser installed? opera, konqueror.. etc ?
[09:55] <xipietotec> http://tinyurl.com/2c9np <---for all googling needs
[09:55] <frogzoo> ck41: nope, I tried on the doze/ie6 box which is faster, but it's also 2x the cpu
[09:56] <holycow> as an aside ...
[09:56] <J-_> Opera is sweet =D firefox 2.0 rocks too heh
[09:56] <holycow> http://alluc.org/
[09:56] <holycow> tv shows galore online
[09:56] <h3xis> what's tv.
[09:57] <x-r00t-x> hello . can anyone tell me how do i use .conkyrc?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865
[09:57] <holycow> lol good point
[09:57] <holycow> so anyone else have any ubuntu related q's?
[09:57] <holycow> :)
[09:57] <dint> Hi, I have problem in networking. I have usb modem and a WiFi connecting to server. I choose default gateway to WiFi router (192.168.0.1). When I start internet connection and WiFi is turn off, everything is ok. But after I turn on the Wifi. the internet is not responding. What can I do?
[09:57] <seanzer> firefox 3 is better!
[09:57] <violot> Does Ubuntu have any non-open source programs installed by default?
[09:57] <cflcm_> when a program is run automatically (eg. when inserting a cd) is it run as the user?
[09:58] <x-r00t-x> sudo apt-get moo
[09:58] <chimaera> when i try to connect using winxp to my linux running samba , i get a prompt for password but i cant seem to login after entering username and pass! i set security = user in samba.conf
[09:58] <frogzoo> violot: no
[09:58] <holycow> violot, i think only drivers from nvidia and ati
[09:58] <x-r00t-x> is really great
[09:58] <ck41> frogzoo:  i see. thanks. hmm it works flawlessly in winxp firefox, but its VM on same machine. so it supposed to be same or less CPU speed :)
[09:58] <hagabaka> are there enlightenment 17 packages for ubuntu, or do i have to build from CVS?
[09:58] <x-r00t-x> apz
[09:58] <violot> Then why is gNewSense created?
[09:58] <violot> holycow: Does it include drivers by default?
[09:59] <violot> I had the "nv" driver rather than the "nvidia" by default.
[09:59] <h3xis> chimaera, i think you have to set up users and passes in samba
[09:59] <frogzoo> hagabaka: even if there are e17 pkgs, you'd want the latest
[09:59] <holycow> violot, i'
[09:59] <J-_> chimaera: you do.
[09:59] <h3xis> chimaera, there are specific commands that let you do this
[09:59] <chimaera> h3xis: ok let me try that out
[09:59] <violot> holycow, ?
[09:59] <holycow> violot, i'm not sure what the current status is for after edgy, but it doesn't include nvidia no ... you haveto still install that manually
[09:59] <hagabaka> do they support build scripts that generate deb packages then?
[10:00] <hagabaka> s/support/provide
[10:00] <violot> I'm trying to figure out what gNewSense removes... :|
[10:00] <spikeb> violot: all binary-only firmware and drivers, restricted, and multiverse.
[10:00] <holycow> violot, oh heh
[10:05] <|thunder> anyone been able to get cairo-dock/gnome-dock to compile on edgy ?
[10:07] <holycow> spikeb, do you know if they are just removing the non free stuff or making other modifications beyond say artwork?
[10:07] <spikeb> holycow: the default installation has a couple different packages, they removed launchpad integration, stripped teh kernel of binary-only bits in it...i think that's about it
[10:08] <Nameeater> where are the sound faders?
[10:08] <Nameeater> for mic/output etc
[10:08] <holycow> spikeb, thats neat, thanks
[10:08] <mwalker> how can I install Creative X-Fi drivers?
[10:08] <spikeb> yeah it is pretty neat, i hope they take off :)
[10:08] <spikeb> i won't install it myself because i'm not convinced the project is going to last all that long.
[10:09] <holycow> spikeb, i think the ubuntu approach is the right compromise
[10:09] <spikeb> holycow: generally speaking, i agree.
[10:10] <oem> does ubuntu have a control panel where i can select my video card?
[10:10] <spikeb> holycow: i do think that something like gnewsense is a valuable niche and resource though, so i hope they stick around and prosper.
[10:10] <holycow> oem, not yet
[10:10] <holycow> spikeb, funny, i agree with that
[10:10] <holycow> hehe
[10:10] <mwalker> anyone have any luck installing Creative Sound Blaster drivers?
[10:11] <oem> how do i select my video card then. the installer installed a vesa driver only
[10:11] <spikeb> holycow: :)
[10:11] <holycow> oem, what do you mean by select card? what? do you have two of them?
[10:11] <holycow> oem, or do you mean install the driver ?
[10:11] <h3xis> oem, run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:11] <dint> is default gateway could be turn off??
[10:11] <h3xis> then choose which driver to use
[10:11] <h3xis> when it asks you
[10:12] <oem> holycow. i mean when i installed it didnt allow me to select my video card,
[10:12] <holycow> oem, i still don't get it.  you have two vid cards?
[10:12] <h3xis> holycow, his sys is using vesa at the moment
[10:12] <holycow> if so you need to change your /etc/x11/xorg.conf file to point to the right vid card
[10:12] <h3xis> he wants to use his native ones
[10:12] <h3xis> one*
[10:13] <holycow> they do the dpkg-reconfigure thing posted above
[10:14] <mobal> hy!
[10:14] <mobal> hi'
[10:14] <mobal> how can i boot cd or dvd with grub?
[10:14] <mobal> ubuntu 6.06
[10:14] <chimaera> how can i list the users in samba? can add and remove using smbpasswd but how to list/?
[10:14] <holycow> chimaera, what do you mean users in samba?
[10:15] <mwalker> how can I install Creative SoundBlaster sound drivers?
[10:15] <Flannel> mobal: once you're at grub, you're already booting off the HD, you need to tweak your BIOS
[10:15] <holycow> samba either lets you log onto windows networks as whatever you are logged in as, or it lets you log in to existing accounts on the linux host server
[10:15] <mobal> yes
[10:15] <chimaera> holycow: i did smbpasswd -a username to add a user to samba.. how to i check all the users i've added?
[10:15] <mobal> i do with bios but if i edit the grub menu.lst can i boot cd/dvd?
[10:16] <spikeb> hmm
[10:16] <Flannel> mobal: if you have a special CD, yes.
[10:16] <spikeb> you might be able to, i've never thought of that before.
[10:16] <chimaera> holycow: or in other words, how to i check all the accounts that can access my samba share?
[10:16] <Flannel> mobal: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Making-a-GRUB-bootable-CD-ROM.html
[10:16] <mobal> thx
[10:16] <chimaera> holycow: i do not have /etc/samba/passwd
[10:16] <holycow> chimaera, actually a good question ... i don't think i can answer that one without errors
[10:17] <holycow> i'll leave that for someone more familiar, i'll just get you going in circles on that
[10:17] <spikeb> haha
[10:17] <spikeb> at least you can admit it
[10:17] <chimaera> hmm ok thnx.. also i accidentally deleted root user from samba
[10:18] <chimaera> is there undo command in bash? like i deleted something and i wanna undo
[10:18] <McMillan> Hmm... Now that I am finally online... LOL Know of anybody that was trying to get a Broadcom 4318 wireless card to work?
[10:19] <Flannel> chimaera: no
[10:19] <chimaera> k
[10:19] <jpjacobs> chimaera, bash is think before you hit enter
[10:19] <Flannel> chimaera: that's why you don't run around as root in bash
[10:19] <h3xis> McMillan, yes
[10:19] <h3xis> McMillan, ndiswrapper
[10:19] <chimaera> ah ok
[10:20] <McMillan> It works to a point, but you can't use the driver packaged with Dapper. However, I do have a question that my local "expert" can't seem to answer for me.
[10:20] <JairunCaloth> Hey guys, I'm having trouble with my mic. I know it works, because I can get it to feedback through the speakers. But I can't use it for capture.
[10:20] <chimaera> how do i use natilus to copy a file to a location that require be to use su
[10:20] <h3xis> McMillan, which is?
[10:20] <oem> holycow.ok i went through that configuration,,,now reboot?
[10:21] <chimaera> how do i use natilus to copy a file to a location that require me to use sudo
[10:21] <Flannel> chimaera: in ubuntu, we don't use su, we use sudo.  but, to make a super user GUI application, use "gksudo", so "gksudo nautilus" (and be careful)
[10:21] <McMillan> Can I update to latest release using only the net and not needing to download/burn/re-install my version of ubuntu (xubuntu)
[10:21] <holycow> oem, either logout or restart gdm with sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[10:21] <h3xis> McMillan, yes
[10:21] <holycow> all you need to do is get x server restarted to take up the new settings
[10:21] <nuked_omen> chimaera, i use sudo nautilus
[10:21] <McMillan> Hold on, I want to take notes! LOL
[10:21] <mwalker> how can I find drivers for my Sound Card?
[10:22] <chimaera> k thnx
[10:22] <nuked_omen> mwalker, try the manufacturer of the sound card
[10:22] <h3xis> McMillan, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and everytime you see "dapper" replace it with "edgy". then run sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:22] <Flannel> !upgrade | McMillan (use the console commands, update-manager had some problems with xubuntu, most likely fixed now, but..)
[10:22] <ubotu> McMillan (use the console commands, update-manager had some problems with xubuntu, most likely fixed now, but..): For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[10:23] <mwalker> and if there are no drivers available from the manufacturer are there any generic sound card drivers?
[10:23] <h3xis> mwalker, what kind of sound card do you have?
[10:23] <Flannel> nuked_omen: don't use sudo with a graphical app, use gksudo.
[10:23] <nuked_omen> mwalker, sometimes
[10:23] <mwalker> Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi Platinum
[10:23] <nuked_omen> Flannel, why no? i've been doing this long ago
[10:23] <RememberPOL> Is there a way to give a symlink an Icon/Emblem? (Xfce)
[10:24] <Flannel> RememberPOL: try asking in #xubuntu
[10:24] <davidwinter> hi all
[10:24] <Flannel> nuked_omen: you can mess up some permissions, gksudo and sudo set up the environment differently.
[10:24] <davidwinter> has the kernel issue been resolved regarding Nvidia drivers? I was in here earlier in the week and there was a note at the top of the Ubuntu Forums about it.
[10:24] <chimaera> wats a nice program to work with .rar?
[10:24] <RememberPOL> Flannel: Thanks..
[10:25] <nuked_omen> chimaera, rarfree i think was the name
[10:25] <nuked_omen> or unrar-free
[10:25] <chimaera> nic.. thanks
[10:25] <spikeb> chimaera: file-roller will do it if you install unrar-free
[10:25] <davidwinter> the problem I was having was after doing a kernel update I wasn't able to install the nvidia drivers because it was complaining I had the incorrect kernel
[10:25] <nuked_omen> chimaera, search for rar in synaptic
[10:27] <mwalker> how can I solve this error "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found."
[10:27] <mdasilva> fun
[10:27] <McMillan> Thanks, I'm sure this will help me greatly guys. Flannel, h3xis and ubotu. I'm glad you could give an answer right away, I am still somewhat new to the linux front. I'll tell you that I already like Linux better than Windows.
[10:27] <h3xis> McMillan, you say that now XD
[10:28] <Dorrinal> @#$!
[10:28] <McMillan> In fact, I've totally ditched my old dual-boot configuration for a straight linux setup on my lappy.
[10:28] <spikeb> McMillan: sweet
[10:28] <holycow> McMillan, wow cool
[10:28] <p4p4w> I've done the same, haha.
[10:29] <Dorrinal> Yarr
[10:30] <Dorrinal> Still having USB problems
[10:32] <oem> holycow,you suggestion worked sort of, i have more resolution now
[10:33] <holycow> oem, sweet
[10:33] <McMillan> Thanks again guys.
[10:33] <holycow> last thing you need to have is the correct horizontal and vertical refresh rates for your monitor model and make
[10:33] <holycow> for that you typically haveto google it, once you put that in your xorg.conf file you need to restart x once again and you should have more resolution and refresh rates for your moni
[10:34] <oem> i dont see that it recognises the nvidia card yet. common with these integrated solutions i suppose
[10:34] <holycow> oem, there is going to be some work done on the ui end to get this stuff to be more accessible.  congrats on everything you did so far, thats awesome
[10:34] <un_operateur> !nvidia
[10:34] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:34] <wkerzend> Is a promise fastrack card (tx2000) a good choice for a raid 1 under edgy? thanks in advance
[10:35] <oem> ubotu. do i need binary drivers? i am running edgy 64 bit version
[10:35] <holycow> !raid
[10:35] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[10:35] <un_operateur> !chroot
[10:35] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[10:35] <holycow> wkerzend, i ended up going with adaptec as they seem to have open sourced their drivers a way back
[10:35] <davidwinter> are there still issues with the kernel and nvidia drivers? there was a notice at the top of the ubuntu forums earlier this week?
[10:35] <holycow> there are a few that are known to be very linux friendly, not certain if promise is one of them
[10:36] <oem> so basically there is no great benefit in installing the 64 bit version?
[10:36] <holycow> oem, not really, very few application can truly utilize the benefits of 64 'bitness
[10:36] <spikeb> oem: basically.
[10:37] <holycow> only things like large db applications, animatione renderers, scientific apps etc. can really use it to its full benefit
[10:37] <oem> holycow are there downsides to having installed the 64 bit system?
[10:37] <holycow> oh wait , sorry! haha, i answered the wrong question
[10:37] <holycow> heh :)
[10:37] <holycow> oem, not really just some apps and plugings not available on it
[10:38] <Flannel> oem: you have to jump through some hoops to get somethings to work (stuff we can't recompile because we have no source, like flash, etc)
[10:38] <holycow> right
[10:38] <oem> so when i try to upgrade when the new distro comes out, it will automatically look for the 64 bit version, no?
[10:39] <wkerzend> holycow: interesting: adaptec isnt sold by one of the biggest distributors in germany! have you heard anything about promise?
[10:39] <holycow> wkerzend, for some reasons it rings a bell but i cannot place any specific info about it
[10:40] <Flannel> oem: it'll upgrade you to whatever your current install is.
[10:40] <holycow> wkerzend, adaptec does sell directly they might also help with finding distributors in germany
[10:41] <Imrdy> hi all
[10:41] <pegs-using-e17> hi
[10:42] <afief> Is there a way to install Ubuntu through the internet instead of downloading the ISO?
[10:43] <holycow> afief, only if you had already setup your own copy of the ubuntu repo locally, then installed it at boot via pix ... which would basically be pointless
[10:43] <BlueEagle> afief: Sadly there is not.
[10:43] <holycow> ubuntu doesn't have an install cd like debian that downloads everything after a basic in stall
[10:43] <un_operateur> errm, you can do a ubuntu network install -- sure
[10:44] <aku_aku6353> Hi all
[10:44] <un_operateur> !netboot
[10:44] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[10:44] <chimaera> i have a problem copying files from winxp to my linux box running samba... i've done smbpasswd -a username and i can connect to my share but i cant add files to it! help!
[10:44] <reverseblade> !hi | aku_aku
[10:44] <ubotu> aku_aku: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[10:44] <afief> HolyCow, BlueEagle: well, my laptop CD drive is fried and what's installed right now still has glitches because of the corrupted drive, is there a way to install any distro through the net/lan?
[10:45] <hmmz> hi all
[10:45] <un_operateur> afief,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[10:45] <aku_aku> I have one idea..   is there people to hear what I can say?
[10:45] <Erb_> How do I MPlayer my default video player in Firefox?
[10:45] <reverseblade> aku_aku, no
[10:45] <chimaera> i have a problem copying files from winxp to my linux box running samba... i've done smbpasswd -a username and i can connect to my share but i cant add files to it! help!
[10:46] <un_operateur> Erb_, you make sure it is the only multimedia extension for firefox
[10:46] <reverseblade> chimaera, what user password do you use ?
[10:46] <aku_aku> ok..  then where?
[10:46] <afief> un_operateur: thanks, that looks like it is exactly what i need
[10:46] <reverseblade> chimaera, do you have samba server installed, or you are using built in samba support
[10:46] <Flannel> holycow: yes, it does.  You want the "mini" ISO: help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[10:46] <un_operateur> afief, yw
[10:46] <chimaera> i did apt-get install samba. my user password is the one i set using smbpasswd
[10:47] <holycow> Flannel, oh really
[10:47] <holycow> neat i didn't know that
[10:47] <reverseblade> aku_aku, be a great kernel hacker, and everyone listens to you, other than that, talking is pointless
[10:47] <aku_aku> my idea not about kernel hacking :)))
[10:48] <reverseblade> aku_aku, ok tell it, I will give you this honor. I am listening to you
[10:48] <holycow> aku_aku, what reverseblade says is true frankly
[10:48] <reverseblade> hehe
[10:48] <holycow> but go ahead
[10:48] <aku_aku> ;))
[10:49] <chimaera> reverseblade: i did apt-get install samba. my user password is the one i set using smbpasswd
[10:49] <aku_aku> ok..   idea is very simple..   and it's really intresting for my how you understand this
[10:50] <reverseblade> aku_aku, you have 30 sn left. After that I am not listening to you
[10:50] <aku_aku> idea == To present source code not as plain text, but in more complex binary format
[10:50] <holycow> reverseblade, lol
[10:50] <holycow> we already have that ... guess what its called ... compiled binaries!
[10:50] <holycow> tadaa!
[10:50] <aku_aku> like it is in the modern word processors ;)
[10:50] <holycow> -_-
[10:51] <reverseblade> aku_aku, lol  they are doing it for 30 years. Sorry you are too late
[10:51] <holycow> aku_aku, i don't get it ... with is a more complex binary format?
[10:51] <aku_aku> as you want :)))
[10:51] <reverseblade> aku_aku, what benefit will this idea bring ?
[10:52] <aku_aku> many benefits..  if you think a little or give my more type to explaine ;)
[10:52] <holycow> aku_aku, what is a more complex binary however?
[10:52] <reverseblade> aku_aku, ok you have 1 more minute
[10:52] <Flannel> aku_aku: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, that's the place for general chit chat
[10:53] <aku_aku> not binary..    source code in XML format (for example)  $)
[10:53] <holycow> aku_aku, thats stupid
[10:53] <holycow> lol :)
[10:53] <reverseblade> aku_aku, Flannel has a point. Frankly, other than the joke, if you have an idea, feel free to present it. But present it...
[10:54] <reverseblade> fully!
[10:54] <aku_aku> I mo like to use bXML..   but for first stage ordinary XML will be ok
[10:54] <oem> i made a booboo
[10:54] <holycow> understanding source code and writing good code alone is hard enough ... wrapping it in xml formatting is like the worst idea i've ever heard
[10:54] <reverseblade> aku_aku, develop a project, and see if it holds then
[10:55] <reverseblade> holycow, there are examples like XAML
[10:55] <reverseblade> HTML
[10:55] <oem> i just copied and pasted code from the wiki and it was for breezy....is that going to affect my system, im running edgy
[10:55] <holycow> aku_aku, tho my opinion shouldn't prevent you from starting up a project
[10:55] <Flannel> oem: depends on what you copied and pasted
[10:55] <holycow> reverseblade, terrible exapmle
[10:55] <reverseblade> ok
[10:55] <holycow> thats not 'code' thats just the presentation layer described in an xml format
[10:55] <holycow> which is perfectly suited for xml anyway
[10:56] <reverseblade> holycow, XAML is the source code
[10:56] <oem> the bootstrap thing
[10:56] <racarr> Does anyone have a guide for setting up xinerama with intel cards?
[10:56] <holycow> xaml is not source from what i've read .. xaml is just the descriptoin language for the ui
[10:56] <racarr> Or just xinerama in general? I know nothing about it...
[10:56] <Flannel> !xinerama | racarr
[10:56] <ubotu> racarr: xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[10:56] <holycow> the logic is in whatever .net language you choose
[10:57] <racarr> Flannel: Ok thanks
[10:57] <reverseblade> holycow, read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XAML,
[10:58] <Flannel> guys, please take the *ML and stuff discussions to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[10:58] <aku_aku> holycow:  I think I start such project before or later
[10:58] <user-deploy> having hard time with integratedmemory stealin intel845g
[10:58] <holycow> reverseblade,
[10:58] <holycow> right
[10:58] <holycow> exactly what i said
[10:58] <holycow> its similar to xul
[10:58] <reverseblade> holycow, ok
[10:58] <user-deploy> flash on firefox crashing  firefox
[10:58] <reverseblade> holycow, I have no desire to argue with you
[10:59] <holycow> lol
[10:59] <oem> holycow do i need to undo/reverse an installation that i just made?
[10:59] <raghu206> i formated my system drive having windows and again installed windows but the drive doesnt appear in ubuntu pls help :(
[10:59] <holycow> reverseblade, msg me when you see the first add asking for 'xaml programmers'
[10:59] <aku_aku> I hear..    I go to #ubuntu-offtopic  ;)
[10:59] <holycow> that i would like to see
[11:00] <holycow> oem, what kind of installation? not sure what that refers to.  a whole os, a package ... ?
[11:00] <oem> the bootstap operation
[11:00] <user-deploy> 3d and flash on i845g extreme ??
[11:00] <oem> for 64 bit system
[11:00] <holycow> raghu206, do sudo fdisk -l that will tell you info about all partitions on your system
[11:01] <holycow> raghu206, you may haveto manually mount the partition to get access to it
[11:01] <holycow> oem, i don't know anything about bootstrap functionality, never had to interface with that ... sorry.
[11:01] <oem> ok thanks
[11:01] <raghu206> holycow, how to do this in FSTAB
[11:01] <momal> Hey Im connected through ssh on my friends linux box. How can I make a program start up under his user account and load up on his screen ?
[11:02] <hmmz> could someone please give me a hand? I can ping servers from thew terminal but i cant connect to the majority of sites using FF or lynx in the terminal
[11:02] <oem> now since i havent rebooted theoretically this whole thing hasnt installed yet
[11:02] <nuked_omen> raghu206, mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1
[11:02] <holycow> what he said or google it.  fstab is well documented with lots of examples
[11:02] <jpjacobs> momal, Xforwarding. you have to use ssh -Y or -X instead of ssh
[11:02] <raghu206> nuked_omen, i need uuid of that partition
[11:02] <hmmz> so i have no idea whats wrong
[11:02] <nuked_omen> raghu206, put this line in fstab
[11:02] <reverseblade> momal, you cant
[11:02] <nuked_omen> /dev/hda1       /media/hda1   ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[11:03] <oem> do you know of any online classes or user groups would recommend for total newbies like me
[11:03] <reverseblade> momal, you have to transfer the output from one screen to another, which is theoretically possible but dunno how
[11:03] <nuked_omen> raghu206, fdisk -l will tell you that
[11:04] <holycow> !certification
[11:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about certification - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:04] <hmmz> anyone? please im compleatly stumped as to whats wrong
[11:04] <raghu206> nuked_omen, i cant find that UUID in fdisk -l
[11:04] <holycow> *hmm* oem not offhand, one can get a certificaqtion as an ubuntu specialist now i read ... maybe some schools offer that training online which would cover all that kind of thing really thoroughly
[11:04] <Flannel> oem: #ubuntu-classroom has a series of lessons, well, they have them occassionally (every second saturday?), but you can read their old logs.
[11:05] <raghu206> !uuid
[11:05] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid" (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[11:05] <Flannel> !classroom | oem
[11:05] <ubotu> oem: The Ubuntu Classroom is a project which aims to tutor users about Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu through biweekly sessions in #ubuntu-classroom - For more information visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom
[11:05] <oem> flannel super, thanks
[11:05] <oem> !classroom
[11:05] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Classroom is a project which aims to tutor users about Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu through biweekly sessions in #ubuntu-classroom - For more information visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom
[11:05] <jpjacobs> momal, that is, if you are on linux, using X. if you're working on windows i recommend putty+xming
[11:05] <holycow> Flannel, interesting i didn't know about that channel
[11:05] <holycow> thats cool
[11:06] <Spaghetti_Knife> Quick, what's your favorite pdf viewer?
[11:06] <jpjacobs> xpdf
[11:06] <jpjacobs> hehe
[11:06] <spikeb> evince
[11:06] <Spaghetti_Knife> Thanks!
[11:07] <hmmz> ahh, still not working
[11:07] <raghu206> holycow, what abt UUID
[11:07] <hmmz> I can connect to about 4 websites out of about 20 that i have tried
[11:07] <holycow> raghu206, i am not sure what your question mean, what about it?
[11:07] <hmmz> i have no idea why but it just times out on all the others
[11:07] <jpjacobs> hmmz, maybe someone playing with a router in your network?
[11:07] <OkinawaInstructo> can someone help me set up a printer... Lexmark X125
[11:08] <Spaghetti_Knife> Thanks.
[11:08] <hmmz> there is no network to speak and the router is next to me
[11:08] <hmmz> :P
[11:08] <jpjacobs> :)
[11:08] <raghu206> holycow, in fstab file see there is UUId for every partiiton i need to edit that bcz the drive shud appear which i have formated in windows
[11:08] <hmmz> i just got the router working on ubuntu
[11:08] <hmmz> took all day :(
[11:09] <holycow> raghu206, you can't write to ntfs, just read it
[11:09] <holycow> input the fstab line as the other dude told you
[11:09] <jpjacobs> hmmz, perhaps something wrong with your iptables config
[11:09] <Juhaz> unless you use ntfs-3g
[11:09] <holycow> you will only be able to read it
[11:09] <max_> does anyone have Kiba Dock running?
[11:09] <frogzoo> !ntfs-3g
[11:09] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[11:09] <hmmz> now the only sites i can get wirking are firefox addons one, mozilla.org, getfirefox.com and thats bout it
[11:10] <hmmz> nope, im a compleat linux newbie but im pritty sure im not using that
[11:10] <hmmz> im using e... sometihng.
[11:10] <hmmz> for the file system
[11:10] <momal> well Im under linux my self... I don't want to see his screen just start up programs for him.. without him loosing his screen
[11:10] <holycow> raghu206, and it will appear on next boot.  you need to make SURE you have a folder created at your mount point as well, and you can do a mount /media/mountpoint from command line without rebooting to get the drive to mount AFTER you have the correct fstab line in there
[11:10] <holycow> raghu206, that is kinda the two or three things you need to setup to get it to work
[11:11] <hmmz> and im on Ubuntu 6.06, btw
[11:11] <jpjacobs> momal.. isee.. maybe vnc is the solution you seek. have him activate remote desktop, and then you can fire up apps for him
[11:11] <momal> too slow net for that
[11:11] <jpjacobs> nx?
[11:12] <raghu206> holycow, but the drive doesnt appear as i click on MY Computer .The method u told just mounts the disk on to the specified folder
[11:12] <holycow> raghu206, no it wont appear in my computer ... it will appear as a folder at your mount poitn
[11:13] <jpjacobs> errr... ssh in do export DISPLAY="localhost:0" and then nohup <program> >dev/null&
[11:13] <holycow> in the line that dude gave you its probably something like /media/mountfolder
[11:13] <raghu206> holycow, in order to make it visible u need edit UUId
[11:13] <holycow> just go there and open it up
[11:14] <raghu206> holycow, did u get me ?
[11:14] <holycow> raghu206, i can't give you the details on how that works, i haven't memorized every nuanced behaviour of gnome/nautilus.  i'm just hoping to poitn you in the general direction of getting the drive opened so you can browse it
[11:14] <fuoco> i have this problem, i use r300 driver. glxgears gives me nice results 1600-2000 fps. but when  i try a 3d app like ppracer i get about 2-3fps. flightgear is unusable and uses 100% cpu. when i try ppracer it also happens that while racing suddenly i do get accelleration and 30-40 fps for a few moments, up to a minute maybe, and then it goes back to 3fps. anyone knows what could be wrong?
[11:14] <holycow> making it show up in your nautilus window is really not something i want to help with, that you haveto look up in the man pages
[11:15] <GirlRiver> I am using VLC 0.8.6 on Ubunty edgy to transcode DVD to MP4V and MP4A  but It seems to fail finding AAC codec. Can anyone help please ?
[11:15] <raghu206> holycow, when u set ubuntu u have ur parted drives appear on ur desktop
[11:15] <hmmz> ok the problem is my dsn is screwed
[11:15] <brainiac_ghost> does anyone know if it is possible to read JFS partitions in windows?
[11:16] <e5150> no
[11:16] <holycow> raghu206, i just create a shortcut to them i don't bother with what you are trying to do.  also i don't put extra drives on the ide chain, i mount themn via usb cradles and THOSE appeare automagically on the desktop yes
[11:16] <reverseblade> hmmz, dsn ?
[11:16] <brainiac_ghost> e5150: hmm, theoretically i guess i could make a thing to do it, but i can't be bothered :P
[11:17] <brainiac_ghost> e5150: thing being dll
[11:17] <holycow> anything on the ide chain is part of the system, and if its an extra drive i set it up once and forget about it as its a system level resource not necessearily a removanble media type of device ... at least thats how i treat it
[11:17] <holycow> i hope that makes some sense :)
[11:17] <Gacoment> hola
[11:17] <reverseblade> !hi | Gacoment
[11:17] <ubotu> Gacoment: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[11:17] <Gacoment> ragazzi esiste un tool grafico che ti modifica udev?
[11:18] <hmmz> i tried "telnet google.com 80" in terminal and it said soemetihng like "trying 1.0.0.0"
[11:18] <reverseblade> !esp |Gacoment
[11:18] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> !fr | Gacoment
[11:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about esp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:18] <ubotu> Gacoment: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:18] <Gacoment> cosa?
[11:18] <reverseblade> oh
[11:18] <julien> #ubuntu-fr-classroom
[11:18] <brainiac_ghost> Gacoment: italian
[11:18] <reverseblade> !sp | Gacoment
[11:18] <Gacoment> :O
[11:18] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> ] hmmm...that was not french ?
[11:18] <ubotu> sp: James Clark's SGML parsing tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.4-1.2.1-47 (edgy), package size 158 kB, installed size 564 kB
[11:18] <brainiac_ghost> !it | Gacoment
[11:18] <ubotu> Gacoment: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:18] <reverseblade> lol
[11:18] <nuked_omen> !life
[11:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about life - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:18] <raghu206> !uuid
[11:18] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid" (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[11:18] <Gacoment> yes thanks
[11:18] <Gacoment> XD
[11:18] <jpjacobs> hmmz, i used the gentoo home-router-howto to make a script that anables routing from one interface to another. if you pm me your email, i'll mail it to you
[11:18] <brainiac_ghost> nuked_omen: sorry, none of us have any life here
[11:19] <brainiac_ghost> !jfs
[11:19] <jpjacobs> enables*
[11:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:19] <nuked_omen> brainiac_ghost, not even the ubotu dude
[11:19] <brainiac_ghost> bridou: nope :(
[11:19] <glyn> Hey, how do I get the codecs working on Totem so I can watch videos?
[11:19] <brainiac_ghost> *nuked_omen: nope
[11:19] <nuked_omen> we have no life, that's why we're talking to a bot
[11:19] <brainiac_ghost> !mp3
[11:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:20] <brainiac_ghost> !mp3 | glyn
[11:20] <ubotu> glyn: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:20] <brainiac_ghost> glyn: that page :)
[11:20] <glyn> thanks
[11:20] <reverseblade> !factoid
[11:20] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:20] <encoded> GreyGhost-Ubuntu, don't worry, im insane
[11:21] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> lol that was quick .... ;)
[11:22] <galorin> Hey yall, I've got a 6.10 box hat's loading a kernel driver for my remote, but I want it to load the lirc driver.  How do I blacklist kernel modules in ubuntu?
[11:22] <glyn> how do I get packages from the terminal?
[11:22] <encoded> GreyGhost-Ubuntu, ok
[11:22] <brainiac_ghost> glyn: sudo apt-get install blah blah
[11:22] <glyn> thanks
[11:22] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> glyn ,apt-get install
[11:22] <glyn> thought that might be it but wasn't sure
[11:23] <brainiac_ghost> GreyGhost-Ubuntu: remember the sudo
[11:23] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> !apt | glyn
[11:23] <ubotu> glyn: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[11:23] <brainiac_ghost> GreyGhost-Ubuntu: mind you /me sets a root password :)
[11:23] <brainiac_ghost> !dpkg
[11:23] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[11:23] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> rainiac_ghost ,hehe yes ... sudo too :)
[11:23] <brainiac_ghost> GreyGhost-Ubuntu: brainiac_ghost ty :P
[11:23] <brainiac_ghost> GreyGhost-Ubuntu: tab completion FTW
[11:24] <glyn> hmm it can't find the package gstreamer0.10--fmpeg
[11:24] <glyn> *-ffmpeg
[11:24] <brainiac_ghost> glyn: sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:24] <brainiac_ghost> glyn: add universe, multiverse and backports
[11:24] <brainiac_ghost> glyn: :)
[11:24] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> brainiac_ghost ,sorry bout that ....
[11:24] <brainiac_ghost> GreyGhost-Ubuntu: no problem :)
[11:24] <glyn> I thought I did on the repositories
[11:25] <glyn> where do I put them?
[11:25] <un_operateur> !repositories
[11:25] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[11:25] <un_operateur> glyn, ^^
[11:25] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> glyn , http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories i find that unbelievably helpful ...
[11:27] <glyn> I have Hoary not edgy
[11:27] <glyn> I would just add them again in the synaptic but I have terminals running
[11:27] <un_operateur> glyn, in most cases its safe to replace every edgy with hoary
[11:27] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> Hoary ? i missed a release i velieve then....
[11:28] <niekie> GreyGhost-Ubuntu, it's before Breezy.
[11:28] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> niekie , ahh k ..
[11:28] <niekie> It is no longer supported.
[11:29] <niekie> It is 5.04
[11:30] <niekie> Dapper will be supported until June 2009 (June 2011 for servers)
[11:30] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> oh ... then i obviuosly didn;t know bout it... at that time i was trying to get FC to become user friendly for a noob like muself....
[11:30] <x64_dude> Can anyone help me with installing the nvidia driver for AMD64 ubuntu?
[11:30] <glyn> so I can use the edgy repositories for Hoary?
[11:31] <un_operateur> !nvidia | x64_dude
[11:31] <ubotu> x64_dude: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:31] <niekie> glyn, eh, I don't think so.
[11:31] <glyn> could someone give me a link to the hoary repositories?  heh
[11:31] <niekie> I'm not that knowledgeable though, so ask a seocnd opinion, haha.
[11:31] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> glyn , i think he meant replace the word Edgy with Hoary
[11:31] <glyn> oh
[11:31] <niekie> *second
[11:31] <un_operateur> glyn, just replace every instance of the work edgy with hoary
[11:31] <x64_dude> un_operateur: it dont work right in AMD64 version
[11:31] <un_operateur> x64_dude, ahh -- sorry
[11:31] <x64_dude> un_operateur: "Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[11:31] <x64_dude> the nvidia driver for your running kernel."
[11:32] <un_operateur> x64_dude, I dont think there are 64 bit drivers for ati/nvidia at the moment
[11:32] <x64_dude> un_operateur: sure there is
[11:32] <un_operateur> x64_dude, for linux i.e.
[11:33] <x64_dude> ubuntu for some reason will not modprobe nvidia driver x64 driver
[11:34] <glyn> added the repositories, and I stil can't get gstreamer
[11:34] <glyn> *still
[11:34] <un_operateur> glyn, you need to update apt first -- run this -- sudo aptitude update
[11:34] <pegs-using-e17> on the topic of ati driver install.. i have used this guide before http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Installation_Guide
[11:34] <glyn> I did
[11:35] <glyn> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_universe_binary-i386_Packages)
[11:35] <un_operateur> glyn, it means you have two enries in sources.list pointing to the same location
[11:35] <brainiac_ghost> scrollkeeper gets on my nerves
[11:36] <un_operateur> glyn, hold up
[11:37] <un_operateur> glyn -- this is exactly what your sources.list should look like -- http://pastebin.ca/289687
[11:38] <glyn> with or without the numbers?
[11:39] <user_deployment> \o
[11:39] <glyn> thanks
[11:39] <un_operateur> glyn, numbers??
[11:39] <glyn> yeah there were numbers on every line on the post
[11:40] <un_operateur> glyn, you mean the line numbers on the left?? no no, they shouldnt be included
[11:40] <reverseblade> How can I be a jedi ?
[11:41] <zircx> does anyone know whether linux has a bbcode editor / generator that would be similar to "Pawsoft FASS" in windows?
[11:41] <zircx> er ubuntu
[11:41] <glyn> hmm added those exactly and it still can't find gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[11:41] <abhinay> anybody has problem with the mplayer ? i am getting fatal error: Mplayer interrupted by signal 11 : decode_video , mplayer crashed by bad usage of cpu/fpu/ram
[11:41] <un_operateur> glyn, did you update apt afterwards?
[11:41] <glyn> yeah
[11:42] <glyn> E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[11:42] <un_operateur> glyn, I just searched http://packages.ubuntu.com for gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg -- it seems it is not included on hoary
[11:43] <glyn> heh what can I do to get video working then?
[11:43] <un_operateur> glyn, one sec
[11:45] <un_operateur> glyn, here http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/g/gst-ffmpeg/gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg_0.8.7-7ubuntu1_i386.deb
[11:45] <glyn> thanks
[11:49] <Stormx2> !info gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[11:49] <ubotu> gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg: FFmpeg plugin for GStreamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.1-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1325 kB, installed size 3208 kB
[11:49] <Stormx2> So clearly you need to enable universe xD
[11:49] <Toma-> how long should it take to copy 4.7 GB DVD to a hdd? 7200rpm
[11:50] <un_operateur> Stormx2, he's on hoary :)
[11:50] <user_deployment> need gl 3d for intel845g extreme integrated
[11:50] <user_deployment> !gl
[11:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:50] <un_operateur> !xgl
[11:50] <user_deployment> !opengl
[11:50] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:50] <wsjunior> is it possible to run gnash with ubuntu edgy?
[11:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:50] <spikeb> wsjunior: yes
[11:50] <nuked_omen> xgl got nothing to do with the gl driver
[11:51] <spikeb> wsjunior: it's in edgy-backports
[11:51] <wsjunior> is there any howto for this?
[11:51] <nuked_omen> wsjunior, yes, type gnash in synaptic, click the package and click apply
[11:51] <spikeb> wsjunior: in the system menu, under administration, select software sources.
[11:52] <spikeb> wsjunior: in that window, click on the internet updates tab, and make sure backported updates is checked.
[11:52] <spikeb> wsjunior: after that, you will be able to install gnash (and other stuff) from the backports repo :)
[11:52] <sltgroove> mind u a Q: what r the backports ?
[11:53] <user_deployment> still in ubuntu generic
[11:53] <un_operateur> !backports
[11:53] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[11:53] <wsjunior> spikeb: thank u so much, gonna try right now!
[11:53] <sltgroove> thx
[11:53] <spikeb> wsjunior: you bet. if you encounter any problems, holler at me
[11:55] <daddy-o> how do i get my audio to work? i have ubuntu 5.10 but i cant get any of my cds to play
[11:56] <wsjunior> spikeb: it worked! thank u again! :)
[11:56] <wsjunior> bye
[11:57] <daddy-o> hello
[11:57] <daddy-o> anyone there?
[11:57] <spikeb> yo, daddy-o
[11:57] <daddy-o> hay
[11:57] <daddy-o> im trying to get sound playback to no avail
[11:58] <spikeb> hmm
[11:58] <spikeb> i've _never_ had sound issues under linux.
[11:58] <daddy-o> i just installed ubuntu 5.10
[11:58] <user_deployment> 2.6.17-10-generic now how to advance from here ?
[11:58] <spikeb> not once since i started
[11:58] <spikeb> heh
[11:58] <monicaone> hello
[11:58] <spikeb> so i'm afraid i'm completely useless to ya on this one daddy-o
[11:58] <daddy-o> thats cool
[11:58] <Toma-> daddy-o: you mean 6.10?
[11:59] <daddy-o> i dont even understand linux at all
[11:59] <Toma-> daddy-o: its going to be something incredibly simple that solves the problem (i hope)
[11:59] <rosen37> Hi
[11:59] <frogzoo> !docs | daddy-o
[11:59] <ubotu> daddy-o: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[11:59] <daddy-o> nope im runnin 5.10 with updates toma
[12:00] <daddy-o> thanx
[12:00] <daddy-o> uboto
[12:00] <daddy-o> ubotu
[12:00] <rosen37> is someone do backup on his server, and what is his solution? I m hosting a webserver and I m searching solution to backup data ?
[12:00] <spikeb> hmm
[12:01] <frogzoo> !backup
[12:01] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[12:01] <un_operateur> rosen37, amanda / bacula
[12:01] <arnor> hello World!
[12:02] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> !hi | arnor
[12:02] <ubotu> arnor: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:02] <un_operateur> capitalize the H -- Hello World! :)
[12:02] <spikeb> hey arnor
[12:02] <arnor> what's up guys?
[12:02] <arnor> ;)
[12:03] <arnor> could someone say me what are the major differences between Ubuntu 6.06 and 6.10?
[12:04] <spikeb> arnor: sure
[12:04] <spikeb> arnor: 6.10 has newer versions of almost every package, and a much shorter support lifetime.
[12:04] <nuked_omen> the numbers
[12:04] <arnor> "support lifetime" ?
[12:04] <un_operateur> arnor, one's called "dapper drake" and another's called "Edgy Eft"
[12:04] <arnor> nuked_omen: thx ;)
[12:04] <spikeb> arnor: how long it will get updates.
[12:04] <arnor> un_operateur: merci. lol :)
[12:05] <arnor> I'm using by now Ubuntu 6.06 "Dapper..."
[12:05] <un_operateur> arnor, it's like asking what the difference between windows XP and windows Vista are
[12:05] <teclo-> Hello, how can I ask acidrip to rip only a few minutes from a DVD ?
[12:05] <spikeb> un_operateur: edgy doesn't suck :(
[12:05] <arnor> and I'd like to know if I can want for Ubuntu 7.x to upgrade my system
[12:05] <un_operateur> or in your speak -- the difference between windows NT 5.1 and NT 5.2
[12:06] <un_operateur> spikeb, I didnt say it did, did i?
[12:06] <nuked_omen> why does vista suck?
[12:06] <sltgroove> XP is crap, Vista much worse- when win- 2K
[12:06] <arnor> un_operateur: ok
[12:06] <spikeb> un_operateur: in a roundabout way, yes.
[12:06] <spikeb> un_operateur: you said it was the vista of ubuntu releases :P
[12:07] <nuked_omen> people who use XP will have to eventually use vista
[12:07] <un_operateur> spikeb, I'm quite positive i didnt make such a corollary  :)
[12:07] <nuked_omen> whether they like it or not
[12:07] <sltgroove> hehehe
[12:07] <spikeb> arg
[12:07] <spikeb> un_operateur: darn you, let me smear your efforts!
[12:07] <spikeb> heh
[12:07] <un_operateur> spikeb, I can tell you tho -- i didnt use Edgy for too long -- so i cant really comment about it
[12:08] <spikeb> hehe un_operateur, did you move back to dapper or forward to feisty?
[12:08] <sltgroove> me dare not to say- in da mom on OS X 10.3.9- but using ubuntu and ( argh.. don't trow anything on me... ) SuSe 10.2
[12:09] <un_operateur> spikeb, I dunno if i could call it feisty -- I use quite a few debian etch packages and some edgy ones too
[12:09] <spikeb> hehe
[12:09] <spikeb> un_operateur: ahh ok
[12:09] <spikeb> un_operateur: so you use something that could be called "begging for trouble" :P
[12:09] <un_operateur> spikeb, or "aching to be different" :)
[12:09] <koregaonpark> Hello. I pulled the power plug of my Ubuntu machine and now it won't start up anymore.
[12:10] <un_operateur> koregaonpark, that wasnt a very clever thing to do was it?
[12:10] <koregaonpark> well, no, un_operator
[12:10] <un_operateur> koregaonpark, can you boot up into single user/recovery mode?
[12:10] <koregaonpark> I can boot into root.
[12:11] <koregaonpark> It takes me to the command prompt and I type in startx
[12:11] <koregaonpark> i think there's something wrong with the bootloader.
[12:11] <koregaonpark> okay, now i managed to boot into my user account
[12:12] <un_operateur> koregaonpark, so what happens after startx ?
[12:12] <koregaonpark> i typed in 'login', logged in, hit sudo startx
[12:12] <koregaonpark> uh, now that it's booted up
[12:12] <koregaonpark> i see an error, un_operator
[12:12] <dj_baggio> !aids
[12:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aids - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:12] <dj_baggio> (:
[12:12] <koregaonpark> POWER MANAGER: this program cannot start until you start the dbus system service.
[12:12] <llama32> is there a way to force apt-get to ignore all dependencies? [i know it's unsafe, but i'm only installing devel packages full of headers, that have ~ 15mb of un-needed dependancies >:(] 
[12:13] <un_operateur> koregaonpark, hmm - ok -- sudo bash   first
[12:13] <koregaonpark> The error message contd.: it is strongly recommended you reboot your computer after starting messagebus
[12:13] <un_operateur> koregaonpark, then -- /etc/init.d/dbus start
[12:13] <koregaonpark> okay, in terminal?
[12:13] <un_operateur> yes
[12:14] <un_operateur> koregaonpark, then -- /etc/init.d/gdm start
[12:14] <un_operateur> koregaonpark, then press CTRL+ALT+F7
[12:14] <grazie_> Any Opera users online getting quite frequent lock ups? (sorry if this is duplicated - having network problems too)
[12:14] <koregaonpark> step 1 done.
[12:15] <un_operateur> grazie_, if you are having network problems -- opera is going to inherit them to, no? :)
[12:15] <un_operateur> grazie_, what kind of network problems?
[12:16] <sltgroove> rotten cables :P
[12:16] <koregaonpark> un_operator, it has pulled me out of xwindow... "there already appears to be an xserver running on display :0. should another display number by tried?"
[12:16] <grazie_> un_operateur : not getting boths problems at the same time.
[12:16] <grazie_> un_operateur : network is due to ISP
[12:16] <un_operateur> koregaonpark, after which command did that error happen??
[12:16] <koregaonpark> second /etc/
[12:17] <kd7swh> How do I get aac encoding support in ffmpeg?
[12:17] <_Jack_Daniels_> Hello
[12:17] <un_operateur> koregaonpark, change that to  -- /etc/init.d/gdm force-reload
[12:17] <koregaonpark> un_operator, should i choose yes or no at this dialog
[12:17] <kd7swh> it says Unknown codec 'aac' even though I have faac and faad installed
[12:18] <un_operateur> koregaonpark, sorry -- no
[12:18] <koregaonpark> ok
[12:18] <robb> Anyone have xinerama working on an i945?
[12:18] <koregaonpark> now ill run the force command
[12:18] <koregaonpark> un
[12:18] <mojojojo_> hi there.  I'm trying to connect throough USB modem (SpeedTouch Thomson) to ADSL. I followed instructions and now I get "LCP: connection terminated by peer" and nothing else :(... Can you help me?
[12:18] <koregaonpark> un_operator, it keeps taking me back to that screen!
[12:18] <koregaonpark> the blue screen...
[12:18] <kd7swh> How do I get aac encoding support in ffmpeg?
[12:19] <_Jack_Daniels_> I'm new to ubuntu, i've always used Slackware, and i'm wondering where is the script ip_forward that, in slackware, is under "/etc/rc.d/rc.ip_forward"
[12:19] <un_operateur> _Jack_Daniels_, you'll need to make one yourself or modify  /etc/sysctl.conf
[12:20] <un_operateur> koregaonpark, what does the blue screen say?
[12:20] <_Jack_Daniels_> ok thank you
[12:20] <koregaonpark> un_operator, the same message... should a new display no. be chosen.
[12:20] <koregaonpark> un_operator, it tried 6 times then gae up
[12:20] <koregaonpark> gave*
[12:21] <koregaonpark> un_operator, i ran your force reload command but it's brough me back to that same screen
[12:21] <un_operateur> koregaonpark, how does this combo fare -- /etc/init.d/gdm stop; /etc/init.d/gdm start;
[12:21] <sioux> hi ubuntus
[12:21] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> !xine
[12:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:22] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> !gstreamer
[12:22] <koregaonpark> un_operator, it's not giving me enough time to type that, it keeps taking me back to the blue screen
[12:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gstreamer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:22] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> hmm......
[12:22] <mauricek> how can I play video on ubuntu
[12:22] <sioux> I opened a bug on launchpad do y know if there is a irc about it?
[12:22] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> mauricek ,get the plugins for totem i think ...
[12:22] <koregaonpark> un_operator, i chose yes by mistake
[12:23] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> !mp3 | mauricek
[12:23] <ubotu> mauricek: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:23] <un_operateur> koregaonpark, press CTRL+ALT+F1  -- it shouldnt bother you there
[12:23] <koregaonpark> it took me to the ubuntu login screen
[12:23] <mauricek> it does not work for me
[12:23] <koregaonpark> i chose restart tehre
[12:23] <koregaonpark> there*
[12:23] <mauricek> thx
[12:23] <un_operateur> koregaonpark, you saying it has worked then?
[12:24] <koregaonpark> it's rebooting, un_operator
[12:24] <koregaonpark> damn, no, back at the prompt
[12:24] <koregaonpark> un_operator, starting xwindow
[12:24] <koregaonpark> back to the same gnome screen
[12:24] <un_operateur> gnome screen?
[12:25] <gizim> Where does Ubuntu store the Crontab logs?
[12:25] <un_operateur> gizim, errm, that depends -- root's cron jobs or user's cron jobs?
[12:25] <gizim> root
[12:25] <un_operateur> gizim, /var/log/auth.log i think
[12:25] <gizim> Thanks
[12:26] <mojojojo_> hi there.  I'm trying to connect throough USB modem (SpeedTouch Thomson) to ADSL. I followed instructions and now I get "LCP: connection terminated by peer" and nothing else :(... Can you help me?
[12:26] <sioux> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu do you know if there is a irc channel to discuss these bugs?
[12:26] <arnor> mojojojo_: I've tried 3 or 4 years ago with Knoppix and another distros
[12:27] <arnor> mojojojo_: drop your USB modem. Buy an ethernet one
[12:27] <arnor> life is beautiful with ethernet modems
[12:27] <koregaonpark> un_operator, what shall i do now?
[12:27] <un_operateur> mojojojo_, it might mean that a setting is incorrect -- recheck the configuration
[12:27] <Tron`> don't know
[12:27] <koregaonpark> un_operator, i'm back in gnome
[12:27] <mojojojo_> arnor :D :D, no chance, I need connection right now :),
[12:27] <un_operateur> koregaonpark, if you are in gnome it means everything worked
[12:28] <un_operateur> koregaonpark, do you mean the terminal instead?
[12:28] <koregaonpark> un_operator, ubuntu still won't boot up
[12:28] <koregaonpark> un_operator, it took me to the command line and i manually typed in startx
[12:28] <koregaonpark> un_operator, i am now in the root account
[12:28] <Seveas> arnor, ;)
[12:28] <mojojojo_> un_operateur yeah, but to tell the trutch I copied ready configuration (which is supposed 100% correct).
[12:29] <un_operateur> koregaonpark, please try and keep messages together so we can keep track of context -- dont split them over lines
[12:29] <HeathenDan> how do i remove read-only status for several files?
[12:29] <rausb0> usb modems mostly use undocumented proprietary protocols. dont use them.
[12:29] <koregaonpark> un_operator, affirmative
[12:29] <un_operateur> koregaonpark, did you startx or sudo startx ?
[12:29] <koregaonpark> un_operator, startx
[12:30] <koregaonpark> un_operator, from root@desktop:
[12:30] <rausb0> un_operateur: startx should be enough since the X wrapper is suid root
[12:30] <un_operateur> koregaonpark, and after startx, it took you to the desktop ??
[12:30] <koregaonpark> un_operator, it has taken me to the root desktop. i see an error message on screen
[12:31] <un_operateur> koregaonpark, you dont need to startx as root -- just do it under your shell
[12:31] <un_operateur> koregaonpark, well duhh.. you startx as root, where do you expect the desktop to take you :)
[12:31] <koregaonpark> un_operator, i have no choice, when i boot up the computer i am taken to root@desktop.
[12:31] <rausb0> koregaonpark: you shouldnt have log in as root on the text console. log in as normal user, then startx.
[12:32] <koregaonpark> rausb0, i'll just reboot
[12:32] <un_operateur> koregaonpark, ehh -- it should do that
[12:32] <un_operateur> koregaonpark, shouldnt **
[12:32] <rausb0> koregaonpark: you get a root shell on reboot? without asking for password?
[12:32] <midgetg0at> Anyone notice a problem in Edgy - Gnome where if you add a launcher to a panel, and then try to move it, it looses 100% of the launcher information?
[12:32] <koregaonpark> rausb0, yes that is correect
[12:32] <midgetg0at> i'ts done it to me EVERY TIME i try to position it after i add it to panel
[12:32] <rausb0> koregaonpark: i'd say your system is pretty f*cked up
[12:33] <koregaonpark> rausb0, i did nothing but shut down my computer manually!
[12:33] <rausb0> koregaonpark: which ubuntu version, from which media did you install?
[12:33] <un_operateur> koregaonpark, you said you pulled the plug from under it  :)
[12:34] <Seveas> bad move :)
[12:34] <koregaonpark> rausb0, this is 6.06 from cd
[12:34] <koregaonpark> un_operator, isn't that a manual shut down?
[12:34] <un_operateur> koregaonpark, lol no
[12:34] <koregaonpark> un_operator, i've done this windows and os x
[12:34] <un_operateur> koregaonpark, thats called bad-operational-tendency-syndrome :)
[12:35] <un_operateur> koregaonpark, linux is not windows or apple eh
[12:35] <rausb0> koregaonpark: pulling the plug can hardly be called a "manual shutdown"
[12:35] <koregaonpark> rausb0, un_operator, so I just gotta format and install?
[12:35] <un_operateur> koregaonpark, even with windows/apple -- you should never do that -- you risk losing/corrupting data -- and as you have seen it happen, the risk it high
[12:36] <koregaonpark> un_operator, i don't usually, but my computer was on for a day and i didn't have a monitor to spare to shut it down with.
[12:36] <un_operateur> koregaonpark, well, we gotta find out what is failing and whats dropping you into the root prompt -- hopefully if we correct that, it ought to be ok
[12:36] <rausb0> koregaonpark: i bet it says something like you have to check the file system manually when booting, then dropping you to a root shell, right?
[12:37] <koregaonpark> rausb0, it says exactly that!
[12:37] <rausb0> koregaonpark: alright, your filesystem is damaged
[12:37] <koregaonpark> it says try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock
[12:38] <rausb0> koregaonpark: if it even doesnt find the superblock, its more damaged that i thought
[12:38] <koregaonpark> rausb0, well, i guess i'm done then
[12:38] <rausb0> koregaonpark: btw, why didnt you tell us this message earlier?
[12:39] <koregaonpark> rausb0, because i was able to boot into gnome
[12:39] <koregaonpark> rausb0, i can still access my data.
[12:39] <rausb0> koregaonpark: under linux, you should read error messages, understand them and _take them seriously_
[12:39] <rausb0> koregaonpark: messages are there for a purpose
[12:40] <koregaonpark> rausb0, yes sir.
[12:40] <koregaonpark> rausb0, i'm new to this.
[12:40] <rausb0> koregaonpark: that why i am telling you
[12:41] <koregaonpark> but seriously, how come this has never happened to my windows or os x installs?
[12:41] <rausb0> koregaonpark: so reboot and stay on the root shell in text mode
[12:41] <koregaonpark> is linux more volatile?
[12:41] <samu2> WOW, I should have installed the nvidia drivers a long time ago. The screen savers are a hundred times smoother now.
[12:41] <koregaonpark> rausb0, what?
[12:41] <mauricek> I can't download the correct format for mediaplayers::: Help me
[12:41] <un_operateur> koregaonpark, damage does occur to windows/apple systems -- but it is hidden from you so you can get the desktop up (not a good thing)
[12:42] <rausb0> koregaonpark: then type in: fsck.ext3 -fy /
[12:42] <koregaonpark> un_operator, i understand.
[12:42] <koregaonpark> rausb0, one min
[12:42] <mauricek> Media player
[12:43] <rausb0> koregaonpark: and if it doesnt work, try this: fsck.ext3 -fy -b 8193 /
[12:43] <koregaonpark> rausb0, the superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2 filesystem
[12:43] <koregaonpark> rausb0, okay
[12:43] <rausb0> koregaonpark: ext2? ubuntu uses ext3 by default
[12:43] <un_operateur> rausb0, koregaonpark, you might want to use  fsck.ext2 instead
[12:43] <mauricek> ubuntu 5.04 version can't play any video?
[12:44] <koregaonpark> un_operator, okay i'll try ext2
[12:44] <T1> hey can anyone help me calibrate a joystick please
[12:44] <rausb0> un_operateur: i wonder how koregaonpark managed to install ubuntu with ext2 fs
[12:44] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> mauricek ,what format do u want?
[12:44] <koregaonpark> btw i have to add the "/" too right?
[12:44] <rausb0> koregaonpark: yes
[12:44] <un_operateur> rausb0, he probably changed that -- or installed an older version -- hoary/breezy
[12:44] <mauricek> mediaplayer
[12:45] <rausb0> un_operateur: he said it is 6.06
[12:45] <koregaonpark> rausb0, both the ext3 attempts failed, trying ext2
[12:45] <koregaonpark> un_operator, i might have changed that
[12:45] <mauricek> I don't care as long as it works for ubuntu 5.04
[12:45] <un_operateur> rausb0, he could have dist-upgraded to 6.06
[12:45] <digTro> Hi, I'm having a problem with switch workspace shortcuts (Ctrl+Alt+Arrow Key). The left side keys are not working, but the right side ones are working. Also there seems to be no problem with the individual keys
[12:45] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> mauricek , ummmm i meant ... which format are the videos in? .avi ... .mp4 ?
[12:45] <koregaonpark> un_operator, my primary partition is an empty fat32 30gb
[12:45] <koregaonpark> un_operator, i have the 6.06 cd
[12:45] <digTro> I mean the left side Ctrl and Alt key combination
[12:46] <rausb0> koregaonpark: the live cd or the alternate cd?
[12:46] <T1> anyone know how to change the sensitivity of a joystick, globally
[12:46] <mauricek> windows media
[12:46] <mauricek> mp3
[12:46] <un_operateur> koregaonpark, fat32??  <scratches head and frowns>
[12:46] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> mauricek ,oh ... one sec ...
[12:46] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> !wmv
[12:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:46] <mauricek> thank you
[12:47] <koregaonpark> un_operator, yes, i recently formatted that to fat32. i was trying to figure out how to merge the previously ext3 patrition with my ubuntu one
[12:47] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> mauricek , i think u'll need a new media player ... u'll find the info on that page ..
[12:48] <T1> mauricek: sounds like a codec problem
[12:48] <koregaonpark> un_operator, rausb0, anything else i could do?
[12:48] <berbear> i have problem adding files from winxp to my linux box via samba. i can login but cant copy files over... what can i do?
[12:48] <un_operateur> koregaonpark, what dod the fsck do/say?
[12:49] <koregaonpark> un_operator, the superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2/3 filesystem
[12:49] <un_operateur> koregaonpark, ok -- is / a fat32 or extx file system? let me get that straight
[12:50] <rausb0> koregaonpark: i understand that you formatted your ubuntu partition (which was ext3) with fat32?
[12:50] <berbear> i have problem adding files from winxp to my linux box via samba. i can login but cant copy files over... what can i do?
[12:51] <koregaonpark> un_operator, there are two partitions, one is fat32, one is either ext2 or 3, it might be that the fat32 partition has become the boot partition or whatever
[12:51] <un_operateur> berbear, can you navigate to smb://name/share  -- where name and share correspond to a machine name and share respectively
[12:51] <rausb0> koregaonpark: and which one is the ubuntu root partition (mounted on /)?
[12:52] <koregaonpark> ubuntu is ext3/2
[12:52] <koregaonpark> fat32 is empty
[12:52] <un_operateur> koregaonpark, ok, thats better -- relief
[12:52] <koregaonpark> un_operator, rausb0, brb
[12:52] <rausb0> koregaonpark: okay, and which device is the ext2/3 partition? (like sda2, hda5, ...)
[12:53] <digTro> Hi, I'm having a problem with switch workspace shortcuts (Ctrl+Alt+Arrow Key). The left side keys (Ctrl+Alt combination) are not working, but the right side ones are working. Also there seems to be no problem with the individual keys..
[12:53] <un_operateur> koregaonpark, I think it's better you reinstall witht he right layout -- and avoid using fat32 at all
[12:53] <berbear> yes
[12:53] <berbear> un_operateur: yes
[12:53] <rausb0> un_operateur: i guess you are right
[12:54] <un_operateur> berbear, and do you see any files then?
[12:54] <berbear> un_operateur: yes
[12:54] <un_operateur> berbear, what happens when you try and copy them across to a folder locally -- tell us the right error messages if any
[12:54] <berbear> un_operateur: brb in 5mins
[12:54] <un_operateur> 5mins ? :o
[12:55] <chrishoeppner> Hi
[12:55] <chrishoeppner> how do I check my glibc version?
[12:55] <bun-bun> anyone know if there is a plugin for xmms to play wma files?
[12:55] <rausb0> chrishoeppner: ls -l /lib/libc.so.6
[12:56] <un_operateur> bun-bun -- sure -- if you search the repos -- you should find a package called xmms-wma/v
[12:56] <un_operateur> bun-bun, you might be interested in w32codecs too
[12:56] <un_operateur> !w32codecs | bun-bun
[12:56] <ubotu> bun-bun: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:56] <bun-bun> already have w32codec
[12:56] <bun-bun> s
[12:56] <chrishoeppner> bun-bun: i've installed the w32codecs pack and can play wma
[12:57] <bun-bun> from xmms?
[12:57] <chrishoeppner> yeah
[12:57] <un_operateur> bun-bun, you should be able to play wma from any app if you have the right codecs
[12:57] <un_operateur> bun-bun, anyway -- try this at a terminal -- sudo aptitude install xmms-wma
[12:59] <user_deployment> un_operateur, sudo aptitude install xmms-wma does not exist
[12:59] <user_deployment> try for yourself
[12:59] <bun-bun> i can play wma files through totem etc, just not xmms
[01:00] <user_deployment> amarok bun-bun  ?
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[01:00] <bun-bun> which leads me to believe xmms needs its own plugin
[01:00] <un_operateur> !xmms-wma
[01:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xmms-wma - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:00] <user_deployment> see un_operateur ?
[01:00] <bun-bun> user_deployment# totem is my default, don't have amarok installed
[01:00] <user_deployment> amarok roks have ti just in case
[01:01] <un_operateur> user_deployment, apt-cache policy xmms-wma says -- I have Installed: 1.0.5-3
[01:01] <user_deployment> you oon gnome right ?
[01:01] <Flannel> un_operateur: which repository?
[01:02] <user_deployment> hmmm
[01:02] <bun-bun> user_deployment# rather not install kde libs
[01:02] <un_operateur> Flannel, feisty/universe -- which explains why others dont see it
[01:02] <user_deployment> right un_operateur
[01:03] <berbear> un_operateur: back.. sorry. wat do u mean by copy locally? as in copy paste from anywhere on my system to the place where im sharing using samba?
[01:03] <un_operateur> berbear, the other way around --
[01:04] <koregaonpark> rausb0, hda1 is fat32.
[01:04] <un_operateur> berbear, copy from remote location to local folder
[01:04] <satish> anybody know how to disable full screen controls in totem?
[01:04] <Nookie^> !unrar
[01:04] <ubotu> unrar is rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression  There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[01:04] <mauricek> why is it so complicated to download executable mutlimedia???
[01:04] <berbear> un_operateur: yea i can copy a file from winxp box to my linux desktop
[01:04] <un_operateur> bun-bun, user_deployment  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/x/xmms-wma/
[01:04] <mauricek> I just want it simple
[01:04] <rausb0> koregaonpark: like un_operateur said, better reinstall
[01:05] <mauricek>  there are just away too many steps...
[01:05] <koregaonpark> okay. no problemo. i'll install another os, pull my files and format the partition
[01:05] <koregaonpark> cheers rausb0, un_operator, thanks for helping me out...
[01:05] <un_operateur> mauricek, because most multimedia is encoded in restricted formats -- and that is why ubuntu doesnt include the packages by default
[01:06] <un_operateur> koregaonpark, you might want to think carefully about the layout before installing eh
[01:06] <mauricek> what is simple then?
[01:06] <koregaonpark> un_operator, uh... okay. i'm just a b00b trying to be all cool running liinux...
[01:06] <koregaonpark> lol
[01:06] <koregaonpark> n00b
[01:06] <Flannel> !easyubuntu | mauricek
[01:06] <ubotu> mauricek: easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[01:06] <un_operateur> lol b00b :))
[01:06] <koregaonpark> hehe... somtimes typos can be funny.
[01:07] <koregaonpark> ciao
[01:07] <mauricek> I will try it
[01:07] <un_operateur> koregaonpark, well, we all make mistakes -- and mistakes are important, they have to be made
[01:07] <koregaonpark> un_operator, yeah, i know
[01:07] <un_operateur> koregaonpark, the next time around -- you'll have a better system (as long as you learn from this mistake)
[01:08] <koregaonpark> un_operator, lesson learnt: don't turn off your computer by pulling the plug
[01:08] <un_operateur> koregaonpark, never ever ever
[01:08] <T1> lol
[01:08] <berbear> un_operateur: yea i can copy a file from winxp box to my linux desktop. but when i connect to smb:///mycomputer watever file i try to copy it says it already exists. and when i selected replace, it says file cant be deleted
[01:08] <koregaonpark> un_operator, but sometimes you just have to... like if the system hangs. it's happened with os x
[01:08] <T1> sysrq s, u, b :p
[01:08] <un_operateur> koregaonpark, what happens if say -- the wheels of your car were pulled off when you were travelling at 100mph ?? :)
[01:09] <T1> your f**ked
[01:09] <T1> lol
[01:09] <koregaonpark> un_operator, well, if i had no control over my car and it was hurtling towards a cliff-edge, i'd rather pull off the wheels than let it keep rolling
[01:10] <levander> Where's a good place for Ubuntu GNOME themes?
[01:10] <koregaonpark> is this the legit xchat site?
[01:10] <des1> Hi all
[01:10] <user_deployment> berbear, look http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/11/20/207251
[01:10] <koregaonpark> http://silverex.info/download/
[01:10] <T1> gnome-look
[01:10] <des1> plz help me
[01:10] <berbear> gnome-look.org
[01:10] <FirstStrike> I think I finally have my gnome themed pretty well
[01:10] <user_deployment> des1, support channel here
[01:10] <un_operateur> koregaonpark, well, yea, but if you had time and were in no hurry, wouldnt you rather try your best to get the car back in control before a last attempt ditch?
[01:10] <koregaonpark> un_operator, yeah, for sure.
[01:10] <des1> i was installing ubuntu for 1 week now and i didint succeed
[01:11] <koregaonpark> un_operator, is this the legit xchat site? http://silverex.info/download/
[01:11] <T1> sysrq s, u, b!
[01:11] <des1> :-$
[01:11] <des1> I tried all methods
[01:11] <user_deployment> you will
[01:11] <un_operateur> berbear, where is the file located -- the local one?
[01:11] <koregaonpark> un_operator i need an open source irc client for windows
[01:11] <T1> des1: which version?
[01:11] <user_deployment> hardware must be ok des1
[01:11] <des1> i tried 6:06 and 6:10
[01:11] <un_operateur> koregaonpark, thats xchat for win32 -- so probably is :)
[01:12] <des1> let me tell u what iam trieng to do
[01:12] <koregaonpark> thanks!
[01:12] <koregaonpark> ciao
[01:12] <user_deployment> both OK des1 6.10 no preferable I thin
[01:12] <FirstStrike> the win32 xchat isn't free
[01:12] <des1> I want to install ubuntu on extern USB HD connected to my laptop
[01:12] <FirstStrike> and it's not open source
[01:12] <T1> des1: ahhhh
[01:12] <des1> and i made backup partition and everything
[01:13] <T1> des1: can your laptop boot from usb?
[01:13] <des1> but i get msg all the time the faild to creat file system
[01:13] <user_deployment> and des1 is laptop aware of boot option from USB ?
[01:13] <user_deployment> meaning BIOS ?
[01:13] <des1> and 2 times it full install but when iam reboot it show that i dont have opreativ system
[01:14] <des1> yes
[01:14] <des1> and i removed the internal hd now
[01:14] <T1> des1: what partition type do you have on your hd?
[01:14] <des1> to install it and identify the extern as primary
[01:14] <manmadha> how to connect to irssi?
[01:14] <^NaTacHa^> hello can someone give sum help with encfs
[01:14] <user_deployment> des1 it seems like activate partition issue to me
[01:15] <manmadha> i have isntalled irssi But i dont know how to connet to it...
[01:15] <des1> maybe
[01:15] <user_deployment> take hirencd boot when usb is plugged
[01:15] <brainiac_ghost> manmadha, irssi -c irc.freenode.net -n manmadha
[01:15] <^NaTacHa^> getting /usr/src/encfs-1.2.0/encfs/SSL_Cipher.cpp:147: undefined reference to `EVP_bf_cfb64' on make :/
[01:15] <brainiac_ghost> manmadha, or same but -n manmadha_
[01:15] <des1> and yesterday i get crach install and asked me to report bugs
[01:16] <^NaTacHa^> anyone ?
[01:16] <manmadha> brainiac_ghost, ohh 1min
[01:16] <user_deployment> so des1 www.9down.com hirencd
[01:16] <user_deployment> burn boot and activate usb partition
[01:17] <user_deployment> burn bootCD (hirenCD) and activate usb partition
[01:17] <des1> u mean that on windows
[01:18] <des1> ok
[01:18] <Skyrail> I've tried installing the ATi graphics drivers but now I just run into a problem when trying to log on something to do with Xsession I think. The only way I can log in now is using one of the two failsafe sessions...any ideas?
[01:18] <user_deployment> des1  u mean that on windows. <<--- pls dont shorten sentence ?
[01:18] <markeib> hello! how can i make my / partition bigger? i have a fat32 one and would like to make it / too
[01:19] <Skyrail> I've just uninstalled it so I'll restart and see what happens
[01:19] <des1> ok
[01:19] <user_deployment> skyrail try using bkps of xorg.conf
[01:20] <des1> should i attach the intern hd and download that cd
[01:20] <des1> so i dont need to remove the internal Hd
[01:24] <sheriff> i have 3 partitions and first one is winxp, second one is extend of it , 3rd one is ubuntu and i want also use the 2nd. one as an ubuntu file system but how can i do that?
[01:25] <un_operateur> !mkfs
[01:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mkfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:25] <whimsical> !ext3
[01:25] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[01:26] <whimsical> !fat32
[01:26] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[01:26] <sheriff> whimsical , can i do it by typing mkfs?
[01:26] <whimsical> i have no idea.  sorry.
[01:26] <whimsical> i am new to ubuntu myself.
[01:26] <Stormx2> sheriff: Why do you want to use the second as / in ubuntu?
[01:27] <sheriff> i just want to store my documents in it
[01:27] <Stormx2> sheriff: Oh, so you just want to be able to access it?
[01:27] <Stormx2> sheriff: or do you want it as your /home?
[01:27] <sheriff> Stormx2, but now it is ntfs
[01:28] <sheriff> Stormx2, but now it is ntf
[01:28] <un_operateur> sheriff,  see the section about creating an ext3 partition here -- http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-7.3-Manual/ref-guide/s1-filesystem-ext3-create.html
[01:29] <sheriff> Stormx2, i have a home path but can i format it and make ext3 by any command?
[01:29] <^NaTacHa^> anyone can help me with encfs? getting /usr/src/encfs-1.2.0/encfs/SSL_Cipher.cpp:147: undefined reference to `EVP_bf_cfb64' on make :/
[01:29] <root_> my neck is almost breaking
[01:30] <un_operateur> ^NaTacHa^, you might want to try the encfs docs on that one
[01:30] <root_> ive been saving torrent files to FAT32 partition
[01:30] <root_> and its being saved there with the incorrect MIME type
[01:30] <root_> as plain text
[01:30] <root_> if i save it on my linux drive everything is good
[01:30] <midgetg0at> heya, #samba is dead, anyone familiar with it? i installed samba, created a user, gave it a pass, created a share....and from windows \\192.168.0.3\folder i cant log into it...any ideas?
[01:31] <alper> guys, i got a little problem: Ive a very important windows txt-file somewhere on my computer's harddisc; is there a way to get it via restore programs back - tho it's from a (already deleted) windows partition?
[01:31] <midgetg0at> oh, and my windows user also has a password...
[01:31] <yakumo> hi im trying to run windows games on my ubuntu using wine can anyone help me how
[01:31] <un_operateur> midgetg0at,  smb://192.168.0.3/folder
[01:31] <thoreauputic> !cedega
[01:31] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[01:31] <midgetg0at> otherway around
[01:31] <midgetg0at> i need to access samba share from windows
[01:32] <midgetg0at> so it's \\ip-addy\share ...correct
[01:32] <berbear> omg now i cant even connect to the samba share from winxp!!!
[01:32] <NineTeen67Comet> Does anyone have a good link for Kino information? I've got it working great with all of my video cameras, but I'm unsure the best way/format to capture the video .. I'm going to have at least 5 1 hour clips I will need to cut up, and use sound off the best one to use across it all .. ideas?
[01:35] <Skyrail> I'm having some problems and I haven't a clue what they actually are and I am wondering if anyone can help. When I try to log in normally I get this error: http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b134/einsteinshamster/STA60027.jpg and when I log into failsafe gnome I get this error: http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b134/einsteinshamster/Screenshot-19.png please could someone help :)
[01:39] <NineTeen67Comet> Skyrail: I'm pretty sure it's an xorg.conf problem (/etc/X11/xorg.conf) .. but I'm not coherent enough right now to pick it apart .. If you can Google around for a stock un-edited xorg.conf, save the one you have, and paste the new one in (when I can't get X I use elinks via cli (ctrl+alt+f2) to cruz the web for answers, then use wget to download files ..
[01:40] <Skyrail> NineTeen67Comet: heh ok thanks so much, I hope that works :)
[01:40] <NineTeen67Comet> Skyrail: is this a fresh install? Or did you get in and muck with stuff (like I do :) ) ..
[01:41] <Skyrail> NineTeen67Comet: I am trying to install some linux ATi drivers in order to get two screens
[01:42] <NineTeen67Comet> Skyrail: aha .. (I'm a dual monitor user myself) .. I would bet your xorg.conf file is a little wrong right now .. (ATI is evil to Linux often times) .. if you can get it back to where it'll let you see your desktop, back that file up and press on with experimenting with stuff ..
[01:43] <exs> I'm trying to buy a PCI atheros (chipset) wifi card, does anyone know a list of them?..
[01:43] <Skyrail> NineTeen67Comet: ok I'll give it a try and once its back to normal reinstall the drivers form scratch again :D
[01:44] <alper> guys help me please: i cant reset BERYL's settings, i srewed them up and would like to get back to the default settings. Through the Button on the BerylOptions it does not work
[01:44] <nok> how to reconfigure keyboard / keymaps?
[01:44] <alper> im using the latest Ubuntu version
[01:44] <NineTeen67Comet> Skyrail: Yeah .. I did my mom and dad's computers last month while I was home on leave, they both use ATI cards, but they were both 9200SE cards, so the drivers are open and worked like a champ ..
[01:44] <root_> guys does any1 know of issues with MIME types on a FAT 32 partiton
[01:44] <root_> using edgy
[01:44] <NineTeen67Comet> Skyrail: I'm outty .. take care and good luck .. x.org is evil too .. along with Samba, Cups, and um .. well .. MS .. lol
[01:45] <root_> happens when saving torrent fails
[01:45] <Skyrail> NineTeen67Comet: lol, ok thanks :D I'm using a 9800pro so not too bad
[01:45] <Astaroth_> how can I set up my usb hard drives to a fix mount dir?
[01:45] <brainiac_ghost> Astaroth_, udev rules and fstab :)
[01:45] <Astaroth_> i edited fstab but they're still mounted as usbdrive and usbdrive-1 Oo
[01:46] <brainiac_ghost> Astaroth_, hmm, udev rules?
[01:46] <berbear_> omg i cant even connect to my samba share from winxp!!
[01:46] <Astaroth_> oookay what do i have to set?
[01:46] <berbear_> no problems the other way round
[01:50] <Stinolez> Hello, is here anyone, who could help me with problem during the instalation of Ubuntu 6.10 "Edgy Eft" ?
[01:50] <max_> whats your problem?
[01:51] <blinx> I have some problems with courier
[01:51] <blinx> http://phpfi.com/187285
[01:51] <Stinolez> I install it, and during the installation I choose the pswd, but no user. How I could now log on?
[01:51] <blinx> based on the howto -> http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/index.shtml.en
[01:51] <blinx> anyone can help me?
[01:52] <max_> when you install it should ask what you want the name of your computer to be
[01:52] <max_> thats usually it
[01:52] <Stinolez> but .. I try the name of the computer and it doesn't work
[01:53] <max_> your doin the first latter lowercase right
[01:54] <root_> hmmm
[01:55] <root_> has anyone had issues saving a torrent file on a FAt 32 partition'
[01:55] <root_> using edgy
[01:55] <root_> im getting an incorrect MIME type
[01:55] <light_> having problems connecting to windows-network server via samba, it can't find the location.. [dapper] 
[01:55] <root_> if i save it on my linux ext
[01:55] <root_> everything is fine
[01:55] <root_> does any 1 have some idea
[01:56] <root_> the file type is being saved as text
[01:56] <root_> and its 0 bytes
[01:56] <root_> ??
[01:56] <root_> please
[01:56] <root_> help me...ive been at this for a while now
[01:56] <max_> are there any programs to help you create bootsplashes and kdm themes? or sites with tutorials?
[01:57] <rusher> hello
[01:57] <midgetg0at> Samba issue: I can see the computer in XP workgroup, i've created teh samba user, i've enabled the samba user, i've given teh windows user the same username/password....but i am unable to connect to the share from xp => ubuntu....any ideas...i'm really close...
[01:57] <willskills> hi
[01:58] <rusher> u need to set the samba password
[01:58] <midgetg0at> i did
[01:58] <mahound> hello
[01:58] <PingunZ> Hey, I want the command 'DNS' to run each 20/30 minutes..
[01:58] <PingunZ> How can I do that ?
[01:58] <rusher> smbpasswd
[01:58] <midgetg0at> yes, i did
[01:58] <midgetg0at> smbpasswd -e <user>
[01:58] <mahound> i'm trying to start lighttp at boot, but it won't
[01:58] <mahound> i've update-rc lighttp defaults
[01:58] <dv5237> !realse
[01:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about realse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:58] <mahound> "update-rc lighttpd defaults", i ean
[01:59] <aztracker1> I just wonder WTF can't smb server use the same username/password that is used for the OS?
[01:59] <dv5237> !release
[01:59] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[01:59] <midgetg0at> is there anything else thats obvious rusher?
[01:59] <rusher> nope
[01:59] <midgetg0at> heh, nice.....
[01:59] <PingunZ> !cron
[01:59] <ubotu> cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[01:59] <xpoint> i like to know how to start gift, giftd is running, but i am still not connect in giftoxic, why ?
[01:59] <light_> having problems connecting to windows-network server via samba, it can't find the location.. [dapper] 
[02:00] <ubuntuuser> what is a good program for backing up selected folder to other drives in ubuntu 6.06?
[02:00] <max_> !grub
[02:00] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:00] <berbear_> my samba isnt working:( i cant connect to my linux box from winxp!!! cant even login
[02:00] <mahound> anyone?
[02:00] <rusher> msg me on gaim : rusherxp berbear
[02:01] <ubuntuuser> grub for me?
[02:01] <berbear_> rusher: how do i add u?
[02:01] <mahound> it should be a simple task, but it's not starting as expected
[02:01] <FirstStrike> ubuntuuser: simple backup suite
[02:01] <ubuntuuser> firststike: where do i get that?
[02:01] <mahound> "update-rc lighttpd defaults", but lighttpd won't start
[02:01] <rusher> if you do not know how to send me a IM on aim, ........
[02:02] <xpoint> FirstStrike: man tar
[02:02] <root_> iok...just found out that this is happening only when im using mozilla
[02:02] <markeib> please anybody tell me if i can enlarge my / partition anyhow if i have got an ntfs and a fat32 one that i could shrink?
[02:02] <rusher> gparted markeib
[02:02] <FirstStrike> ubuntuuser: sudo aptitude simplebackup
[02:02] <luxuser> ciao
[02:02] <root_> the MIME type is correct if i use another browser
[02:02] <luxuser> a tutti
[02:02] <luxuser> non parlate italiano
[02:02] <luxuser> cazzo
[02:02] <markeib> yeah rusher but how do i run it without / being mounted?
[02:02] <rusher> bootcd
[02:02] <max_> are there any programs to help you create bootsplashes and kdm themes? or sites with tutorials?
[02:02] <luxuser> merda di localizzazioni di ubuntu
[02:02] <rusher> run a livecd
[02:02] <ubuntuuser> FirstStrike:will that do better than "Keep"
[02:02] <thoreauputic> !it
[02:02] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:02] <FirstStrike> xpoint: yea i know what tar is. your point? simple backup runs daily and automatically makes backups for me.
[02:03] <rusher> gparted live cd is what i love
[02:03] <FirstStrike> ubuntuuser: keep what?
[02:04] <timo901> Hey i have extrcted some fles in the tmp file were is it located
[02:04] <timo901> i want to cd into it
[02:04] <rusher> how do  you tar a folder?
[02:04] <markeib> ok so thank you
[02:04] <FirstStrike> it's at /tmp
[02:04] <timo901> so cd /tmp
[02:04] <ubuntuuser> firstsrike:lol, keep was the name of a backup program i tried last night and didn't work. hey, can i sudo get-apt install simplebackup?
[02:05] <mahound> anyone?
[02:05] <mahound> please?
[02:05] <FirstStrike> ubuntuuser: yes..i told you above
[02:05] <FirstStrike> rusher:  tar -cvvf folder.tar folder/
[02:05] <rusher> domo
[02:07] <mahound> hello?
[02:07] <mahound> :|
[02:07] <rusher> room died
[02:07] <rusher> lol
[02:07] <berbear_> rusher can u see me on aim
[02:07] <max_> mahound: whats your peoblem?
[02:08] <rusher> what is your name berbear
[02:08] <sheriff> is there any application to delete a partition which is ntfs and i wanna make it ext3?
[02:08] <berbear_> nyxynyx
[02:08] <mahound> max_: i want to start lighttpd at boot
[02:08] <ubuntuuser> firststike:i downloaded it, installed it, and now how do i run it?
[02:08] <mahound> i tried update-rc lighttpd default
[02:08] <max_> gnome or kde?
[02:08] <rusher> there are progs for that sheriff that comes on the Gparted LiveCD
[02:08] <mahound> max_, it's a server, no gnome or kde
[02:08] <sheriff> rusher, i dont have Gparted LiveCD
[02:08] <FirstStrike> ubuntuuser: System > Administration > Simple Backup Config
[02:09] <rusher> download it
[02:09] <rusher> or you need to ntfs4g or ntfs3g
[02:09] <rusher> i forgot
[02:09] <rusher> search synaptic for ntfs
[02:09] <ubuntuuser> firststrike:its not showing up, either there or in alacarte menu editor
[02:10] <sheriff> rusher, but i dont wanna make it ntfs , its already ntfs i wanna make it ext3 and use it as an archive disk
[02:10] <FirstStrike> oh..sorry, it's been a long night (well, morning now)
[02:10] <rusher> use gparted
[02:11] <FirstStrike> ubuntuuser: sudo aptitude install sbackup
[02:11] <emun> this mythtv stuff is impossible to instal , help who has managed to install it successfully., or is it a myth
[02:11] <rusher> there is a myth mtv distro
[02:11] <rusher> it is a live cd 2 i thinl
[02:12] <ubuntuuser> firststrike:now its working!
[02:12] <FirstStrike> sorry, my mind slipped there
[02:13] <rusher> ntfs in synaptic has many tools
[02:13] <emun> is it like myth mtv in google
[02:13] <max_> are there any programs to help you create bootsplashes and kdm themes? or sites with tutorials?
[02:13] <astaroh> hello
[02:14] <niekie> Hello.
[02:14] <astaroh> good moorning, ladies and gerlman!!!!
[02:15] <astaroh> somebody can programmer to language C???
[02:15] <gnomefreak> astaroh: for help with programming please join #programming
[02:16] <midgetg0at> #join samba
[02:16] <midgetg0at> bah
[02:16] <midgetg0at> reversed it ;)
[02:16] <astaroh> my problem is some especial!!!!
[02:16] <astaroh> I did some proccess, with fork
[02:17] <gnomefreak> astaroh: astaroh #programming would be the best place to ask
[02:17] <astaroh> ok!!
[02:18] <gnomefreak> they seemed to have changed it :(
[02:18] <pfaftle> can someone please tell me how to fix--> ALERT! /dev/hda1 does not exist. dropping to a shell.../bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[02:19] <ahowes> Hi there can ubuntu do any sort of low level disk scan and fix bad sectorrs in a hard drive??
[02:20] <rusher> fsck2
[02:20] <rusher> e2fsck
[02:20] <rusher> i mean
[02:21] <w3ccv> pfaftle, sounds like a hardware problem, is the disk still spinning, pluged in, mounted, etc. beyond that I can't be of help
[02:21] <pfaftle> can someone please tell me how to fix--> ALERT! /dev/hda1 does not exist. dropping to a shell... goes into busybox and says:
[02:21] <max_> are there any programs to help you create bootsplashes and kdm themes? or sites with tutorials?
[02:21] <Skyrail> Is there any way to access the harddisk from the Live CD and replace a whole folder?
[02:21] <gnomefreak> max_: gimp
[02:22] <pfaftle> w3ccv: happens while trying to boot file system
[02:22] <pegs-using-e17> max: try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[02:22] <gnomefreak> pfaftle: new install?
[02:22] <ahowes> Hi there can anyone help???  Can ubuntu do any sort of low level disk scan and fix bad sectors in a hard drive??
[02:22] <pfaftle> gnomefreak: yes
[02:22] <max_> gnomefreak: that dosnt answer anything
[02:22] <gnomefreak> pfaftle: open /boot/grub/menu.lst and change hda to sda see if that helps
[02:22] <w3ccv> pfaftle, boot from CD - check the partition table, sounds like it is corrupted
[02:22] <Skyrail> anyone know if you can access the harddrive of a PC using the Live CD so I can replace a folder?
[02:23] <gnomefreak> max_: you asked for an app to help you make images gimp == the app
[02:23] <un_operateur> Skyrail, sure
[02:23] <pfaftle> gnomefreak: its a plain ATA hdd
[02:23] <max_> gnomefreak: i didnt ask for a prgogram to make images
[02:23] <alguien21> There's some girl????
[02:23] <timo901> hi i keep getting (you do not have permission to install into this directory )
[02:23] <gnomefreak> pfaftle: understood the kernel has changed
[02:23] <pegs-using-e17> Skyrail: if its an ntfs partition it will be harder to write to it though
[02:24] <Skyrail> I completely messed up some config files in /etc/X11 and so I want to replace that folder with the one on the disc
[02:24] <gnomefreak> max_: yes you did    are there any programs to help you create
[02:24] <timo901> i have even tryed /home/
[02:24] <pfaftle> w3ccv: i'm a linux noob, i don't know how to check the table
[02:24] <w3ccv> Skyrail, mount the hard disk partition you need, on /mnt  then you can get to it.
[02:24] <midgetg0at> k i'm really confused guys...i cant log into my samba share from XP..getting really frustrated.
[02:24] <gnomefreak> max_: do you want to costumize or create
[02:24] <pfaftle> gnomefreak: ok, so how do i change to sda?
[02:24] <max_> gnomefreak: i said sreate splash screens and kde themes, meaning put them togther from images and such i alreazdy have, made
[02:24] <timo901>  midgetg0at:what dose it say
[02:24] <midgetg0at> its just not letting me login from XP
[02:24] <Skyrail> w3ccv: ok thanks I'll give it a try :)
[02:24] <un_operateur> Skyrail, thats not going to work the way you think -- most files in that folder are generated on the fly - they arent just pulled off a package
[02:24] <w3ccv> pfaftle, use fdisk /dev/hda
[02:25] <midgetg0at> i just get prompt after prompt after prompt
[02:25] <pegs-using-e17> max: try this for the boot splash https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[02:25] <luxu> 
[02:25] <timo901> midgetg0at:you know the correct password
[02:25] <luxu> 
[02:25] <pfaftle> wsccv: from which console?
[02:25] <midgetg0at> yes, i've created a samba user which is the same as my ubuntu user
[02:25] <midgetg0at> and the same as my xp user
[02:25] <Skyrail> un_operateur: oh erm...I just want to put them back to default as I can't even get to the logon screen on the installed Ubuntu
[02:25] <thoreauputic> luxu: english here , please
[02:25] <gnomefreak> luxu: english please in here
[02:26] <gnomefreak> thoreauputic: is that chinese?
[02:26] <stefg> midgetg0at: have you done: smbpasswd -a 'my_windows-account_name' and smbpasswd -e 'my_windows-accoun_name' on your samba server?
[02:26] <midgetg0at> yes
[02:26] <un_operateur> Skyrail, does ubuntu boot up to the command prompt atleast?
[02:26] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: unfortunately I don't know :)
[02:26] <luxu> 
[02:26] <timo901> midgetg0atcheckback on your ubuntu machine .
[02:26] <PingunZ> !cron
[02:26] <ubotu> cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[02:26] <pfaftle> w3ccv: from which console?
[02:26] <thoreauputic> !cn
[02:26] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[02:26] <timo901> you getting the passwords confused
[02:26] <midgetg0at> tim, they all have the same passwords
[02:26] <midgetg0at> and all users.
[02:27] <midgetg0at> er, and all the same user.
[02:27] <luxu> are you chinese?
[02:27] <niekie> We are not :)
[02:27] <thoreauputic> luxu:  #ubuntu-cn for chinese
[02:27] <gnomefreak> luxu join #ubuntu-cn please
[02:27] <luxu> thank you
[02:27] <Skyrail> un_operateur: I'm not entirely sure, it just stops comes up with this funny screen telling me there's something wrong with X and it can't detect a screen and after I've been through a few screens it then just goes blank with a flashing _ at the top
[02:27] <thoreauputic> :)
[02:27] <stefg> midgetg0at: you need to have corresponding win and unix-useraccounts ...
[02:27] <timo901> midgetg0at:your user password is not the same as the one samba requires
[02:27] <luxu> join #ubuntu -cn
[02:27] <timo901> yes
[02:27] <pfaftle> is there anyone willing to go to PM and talk me through methods to fix the problem?
[02:27] <un_operateur> Skyrail, any writing at all?
[02:27] <niekie> lucasvo, no
[02:27] <luxu> join #ubuntu -cn
[02:27] <niekie> #ubuntu-cn
[02:28] <gnomefreak> luxu: try /j #ubuntu-cn
[02:28] <midgetg0at> yes, stefg, my ubuntu name is teh same as my samba user name is the same as my windows user name
[02:28] <midgetg0at> and all have same pass....
[02:28] <luxu> thank you
[02:28] <un_operateur> Skyrail, a prompt that says Login: or something like t?
[02:28] <un_operateur> it*
[02:28] <thoreauputic> luxu:   /join #ubuntu-cn
[02:28] <pfaftle> is there anyone willing to go to PM and talk me through methods to fix the problem?
[02:28] <stefg> midgetg0at: what error do you get?
[02:28] <thoreauputic> luxu: you need /
[02:28] <timo901> midgetg0at:samba has its own default pass word unless you have changed it
[02:28] <Skyrail> un_operateur: no, I don't get the chance to log in anywhere
[02:28] <midgetg0at> i dont get error - just prompts
[02:28] <slacktyro> i'm not able to record dvd through ubuntu, can anyone help me?
[02:28] <midgetg0at> interesting tim...
[02:28] <midgetg0at> whats the cmd to chagne it?
[02:29] <un_operateur> Skyrail, what happens when you press this -- CTRL+ALT+F1 ?
[02:29] <midgetg0at> sudo smbpasswd
[02:29] <stefg> !samba | midgetg0at
[02:29] <ubotu> midgetg0at: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:29] <midgetg0at> right
[02:29] <orgy`> hi
[02:29] <stefg> midgetg0at: you have read that?
[02:29] <luxu> #ubuntu -cn for china
[02:29] <Skyrail> un_operateur: I'll have to restart the PC but I'll log back in here using my other PC brb
[02:29] <linnuxxy> how to install ZipArchive   for php5 in dapper?
[02:30] <midgetg0at> is the fact that xp is vmware causing a problem?
[02:30] <stefg> can be... can you ping all your boxes? real or virtual?
[02:31] <un_operateur> linnuxxy,  you probably need to download that php module  from the php archives
[02:31] <slacktyro> my k3b is return me a writing error: input/output error
[02:31] <Vuen> hey guys, what's a free open source alternative to Outlook? in particular i want the calendar features, etc.
[02:31] <midgetg0at> hrm...i wonder if windows is tryign to send an encrypted password to samba
[02:31] <stefg> midgetg0at: vmware sets up a virtual NAT router inside your machine... so your virtual XP is sort of firewalled
[02:31] <midgetg0at> but samba isnt storing it encrypted..or vice cersa.
[02:31] <thoreauputic> Vuen: Evolution
[02:31] <midgetg0at> virtual xp has it's own IP though.
[02:32] <kazik> czesc
[02:32] <aled> un_operateur: this is Skyrail on another PC
[02:32] <Vuen> thoreauputic: does evolution come with standard ubuntu? or do i need to install it using synaptic?
[02:32] <thoreauputic> Vuen: which is the Ubuntu default app anyway
[02:32] <orgy`> yesterday i opened a *rm video with mplayer (because it was the only program to play it correctly). it worked good, but afterwards i didnt have any sound with other programs even after a restart O_o
[02:32] <kazik> hay
[02:32] <slacktyro> can anyone help me with my k3b problem, i need to make a backup
[02:32] <timo901>  midgetg0at:i will try and find out whats the default password ok
[02:32] <Vuen> thoreauputic: ah, thanks
[02:32] <kazik> man do yo spik english?
[02:32] <thoreauputic> Vuen: it's right there in the menu :)
[02:32] <kazik> redy?
[02:32] <un_operateur> aled -- ok -- press CTRL+ALT+F1
[02:33] <midgetg0at> ok, but pretty sure i changed it just using: sudo smbpasswd
[02:33] <un_operateur> aled, does that then take you to a promp?
[02:33] <Vuen> thoreauputic: :) thanks. i'm not actually in ubuntu right now, i'm asking for a friend, which is why these questions seem strange. thanks
[02:33] <slacktyro> my k3b is return me a writing error: input/output error
[02:33] <thoreauputic> Vuen: OK no problem :)
[02:33] <gnomefreak> !grub > pfaftle
[02:33] <aled> un_operateur: ok I'm guessing I login here? I've only ever used the cli once and only to mess around so nothing complicated
[02:34] <stefg> slacktyro: check 'dmesg' if there's any error related to your Burner in it
[02:34] <timo901> smb.conf
[02:34] <timo901> what dose it say
[02:34] <un_operateur> aled, dont worry -- i wont leave you hanging -- enter your username and password there and logon
[02:34] <midgetg0at> what does it say where..there is a bunch of stuff in there.
[02:34] <Vuen> thoreauputic: can evolution import data from outlook?
[02:34] <stefg> Vuen: no
[02:34] <slacktyro> stefg: Unable to identify CD-ROM format.
[02:35] <slacktyro> stefg: but it's a dvd-rw
[02:35] <luxu> #ubuntu cn
[02:35] <aled> un_operateur: ok when I log in it comes up with some info but it also says -bash: /etc/profile: Ppermission denied
[02:35] <timo901> we want it to say this      encrypt password = yes
[02:35] <timo901> smb passwd file = /etc/samba/smbpasswd
[02:35] <aled> *Permission
[02:35] <thoreauputic> Vuen: I don't know - I don't use windows at all
[02:35] <stefg> slacktyro: hmmm.... looks like a hardware-problem with your DVD-Drive
[02:35] <midgetg0at> ok, i dont see encrypt password
[02:35] <midgetg0at> sec.
[02:35] <timo901> luxu are you confused
[02:36] <un_operateur> aled -- hmm -- but do you get to a prompt that says  user@computer:~$  ?
[02:36] <erwin_> i installed my wireless network connection yesterday, but when the computer boots, wireless doesn't seem to work, if i start the "Wireless Assistant" it shows me the correct ESSID and if i click it, it makes a connection. How do i make ubuntu do this automaticly at startup ?
[02:36] <timo901> :)
[02:36] <aled> yeah
[02:36] <thoreauputic> luxu:   /join #ubuntu-cn
[02:36] <slacktyro> stefg: how can i mount dvd throught mount
[02:36] <slacktyro> ?
[02:36] <midgetg0at> Unknown parameter encountered: "encrypt password"
[02:36] <luxu> thank you .I try it again.
[02:37] <un_operateur> Vuen, check this out  http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/moving-outlook-email-data-to-linux-evolution-mail-client.html
[02:37] <stefg> slacktyro: mount -t iso9660 /dev/hd_whateveryour drive is_  /cdrom
[02:37] <aled> un_operateur: yeah I've got that
[02:37] <slacktyro> stefg: even being a dvd?
[02:37] <timo901>  erwin_:make it start up with system sservices
[02:37] <un_operateur> aled -- ok --  type this command out -- sudo bash
[02:38] <stefg> slacktyro: dvd's use iso 9660, except DVD-Ram, which uses UDF IMHO
[02:38] <un_operateur> aled, press enter -- you should get a prompt that says   root@computer:~#
[02:38] <aled> un_operateur: yup
[02:38] <un_operateur> aled -- ok -- type this command -- sudo dpkg-reconfigure --priority low gdm
[02:38] <midgetg0at> timo901: get the error? samba doesnt konw "encrypt password"
[02:39] <timo901> midgetg0at: were is that error from
[02:39] <slacktyro> stefg: it still say that
[02:39] <slacktyro> Unable to identify CD-ROM format.
[02:39] <timo901> smb.conf?
[02:39] <luxu> #ubuntu -cn
[02:39] <stefg> slacktyro: even a clever command can't fix a broken drive :-\
[02:39] <timo901> luxu not that way lol
[02:39] <midgetg0at> the error was from: testparm
[02:39] <un_operateur>   /join #ubuntu-cn
[02:40] <luxu> I am a new man
[02:40] <midgetg0at> after i made the change to the file.
[02:40] <aled> un_operateur: yeah, came up with something about reloading GNOME display manager and ending all X sessions
[02:40] <un_operateur> aled -- ok -- press this now -- CTRL+ALT+F7
[02:40] <thoreauputic> luxu: no spaces
[02:41] <luxu> oh.my god
[02:41] <timo901> ohh isee
[02:41] <thoreauputic> luxu:  /join #ubuntu-cn
[02:41] <midgetg0at> timo, you forgot an "s"
[02:41] <luxu> I do it .thank you very much
[02:42] <thoreauputic> luxu: :)
[02:42] <timo901> luxu not that way
[02:42] <aled> un_operateur: ok, I have done so but it comes up with this weird error screen
[02:42] <vns> hello guys, how can I remove maximize/minimize animation in gnome?
[02:42] <un_operateur> aled, ok, what does it say?
[02:42] <timo901> some one tell luxu how to join a chat
[02:42] <thoreauputic> he made it :)
[02:43] <timo901> thank god
[02:43] <thoreauputic> timo901: he's there now
[02:43] <thoreauputic> heheh
[02:43] <un_operateur> luxu is "a new man" :)
[02:43] <timo901> midgetg0at:maybe we can restart the services
[02:43] <aled> un_operateur: Failed to start the X server. It is likely it is not set up correctly. Would you like to view the X server outpu to diagnose the problem
[02:44] <un_operateur> aled, ok, go ahead -- select yes and tell us briefly what it says
[02:44] <midgetg0at> timo901: i restarted samba alread, about a million times, i've rebooted vmware windows, i changed the samba user passwords after i added that encryption param.....
[02:44] <timo901> un_operateur:I remember when i was like that ,ever thing was just a big blur
[02:44] <midgetg0at> still the same thing.
[02:44] <midgetg0at> xp keeps giving me prompt after prompt after prompt
[02:44] <un_operateur> timo901, like what lol ?
[02:44] <midgetg0at> are the passwords not being stored in the same way?!
[02:45] <timo901> un_operateur:when i was new to all this
[02:45] <aled> un_operateur: it says that failed to load module GLcore and libGLcore.so and no devices detected and concludes no screens found
[02:45] <un_operateur> midgetg0at, on your ubuntu machine -- can you log on to the samba share using nautilus smb://machine/share
[02:46] <sight> re all
[02:46] <luxu> I succeed.thank you for help me.
[02:46] <timo901> midgetg0at:make sure your network configuration is good ,or we just waisting your time
[02:46] <erwin_> timo901: how do i start the wireless network with system services ? Is it an excisting service that needs to be started or do i have to create a new one ?
[02:46] <midgetg0at> ....
[02:46] <midgetg0at> network is fine....
[02:46] <un_operateur> aled .. ok -- CTRL+ALT+F1 -- and that should take you back to the prompt -- at the prompt --- just verify if you can get on the internet -- ping google.com
[02:47] <rusher> ifup ath0 / wlan-
[02:47] <midgetg0at> i wouldnt see hte other computer if it wasnt...
[02:47] <cmt^^> what's a good tool for ripping dvd's in linux?
[02:47] <pandrew> hi! how can i make one of my usb 2.0 ports run as Usb 1.0 or 1.1 as default? i have a mp3 player that looks like that has problems with usb 2.0. thanks
[02:47] <rusher> xdvdrip
[02:47] <aled> un_operateur: its pinging :D
[02:47] <un_operateur> aled, if ping says -- 64 bytes from .... it means you can
[02:47] <rusher> or xdvdshrink
[02:47] <Zaggynl> Hi, I would like to upgrade from Dapper to Edgy, but first I want to make a backup of all I have now, what would be the best way to do?
[02:47] <rusher> some dvd ley you right click and copy and pase iso
[02:47] <aled> un_operateur: yeah 0% loss
[02:48] <rusher> i had many problems upgrading from dapper - edgy
[02:48] <midgetg0at> ok, so how do i verify that my share definition is setup correctly?
[02:48] <un_operateur> aledd, nice -- now type these commands in -- aptitude remove xserver-xorg-core; aptitude install xserver-xorg-core
[02:48] <timo901> midgetg0at:you would be surprised at how network connections can be confusing
[02:48] <Zaggynl> cmt^^, k9copy
[02:48] <midgetg0at> k, but lets not jump into configuring networks that appear to be working correctly when we haven't even verified the samba share definition....
[02:49] <un_operateur> aled, hows it going?
[02:49] <aled> un_operateur: oh sorry, yeah didn't see that
[02:49] <un_operateur> midgetg0at, can you access your samba shares locally ?
[02:50] <un_operateur> aled, oops -- my bad -- typed your name out wrong :p
[02:50] <pegs-using-e17> would anyone have an idea what this could be... i have dapper installed.. and after a while of uptime (like just now.. been up for 4 hours) the hdd in this machine starts ticking as though it parks the heads, then unparks.. reads.. then parks them again (i think thats what its doing anyway).. it doesnt seem to happen in windowz
[02:50] <rausb0> pandrew: sudo rmmod ehci-hcd
[02:50] <un_operateur> aled, just in case you want them again -- aptitude remove xserver-xorg-core; aptitude install xserver-xorg-core
[02:50] <timo901>  midgetg0at:i was just checking
[02:50] <midgetg0at> yes, i can access them locally.
[02:51] <aled> un_operateur: ok thanks :) its doing it now
[02:51] <un_operateur> midgetg0at, by locally i mean smb://machinename/share -- smb://ipaddress/share etc
[02:51] <midgetg0at> yes, i know
[02:51] <midgetg0at> that is where i'm at.
[02:51] <midgetg0at> smb://localhost/WWWRoot
[02:51] <sight> can somebody help me with mounting ext3 partition with write access for user?
[02:51] <timo901> erwin_:http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/09/05/2055232
[02:52] <un_operateur> midgetg0at, i hope you know localhost is different to <machinename> :)
[02:52] <un_operateur> midgetg0at, and that you've tried both
[02:52] <erwin_> timo901: i'll have a read, thank you
[02:52] <midgetg0at> if you're asking can i access it locally, localhost is fine.
[02:52] <timo901> your welcome
[02:52] <midgetg0at> and yes, it works with machine name as well....
[02:52] <aled> un_operateur: I really need to learn more cli stuff as it's pretty interesting and very useful
[02:52] <timo901> let me know how you get on, wireless can be tricky
[02:52] <futzilogik> does anyone know how sound juicer determines the title infos for my cd? (cause it get's it completely wrong)
[02:53] <un_operateur> midgetg0at, I'm asking if both smb://localhost and smb://$HOSTNAME  work the same
[02:53] <rausb0> aled: command line rules :)
[02:53] <midgetg0at> indeed they do.
[02:53] <T1> futzilogik: gets then from a server on the net
[02:53] <aled> rausb0: :D
[02:53] <erwin_> okay :p
[02:53] <futzilogik> T1, do you know which one?
[02:53] <aled> I need to learn more stuff about it as I get more interested in setting up more complicated stuff
[02:53] <un_operateur> midgetg0at, i wasnt following all along -- but how was XP failing to connect?
[02:53] <rausb0> aled: i do many things on the command line, even when running X
[02:54] <midgetg0at> it just keeps prompting me for user/pass
[02:54] <T1> futzilogik: freedb i think
[02:54] <timo901>  futzilogik:should be able to find out in the configuration side of things /settings
[02:54] <aled> rausb0: I use it for simple things like moving, renaming and editing files as most people should do realy, I'm hoping to learn more about networking and networking booting and administration using Linux, so it'll be useful
[02:54] <futzilogik> T1, kscd uses freedb and it doesn't find anything
[02:54] <pandrew> rausb0: thanks, i'll try it now, one moment
[02:54] <un_operateur> midgetg0at, if you tail /var/log/samba/log.smbd -- you'll find out why it was failing
[02:55] <midgetg0at> ok, sec...
[02:55] <aled> un_operateur: it's finished :)
[02:55] <futzilogik> timo901, hey, it's a gnome application, there are no such settings in a gnome app ;-)
[02:55] <un_operateur> aled, reboot :) and cross yer fingers :)
[02:55] <aled> ok
[02:55] <midgetg0at> k, hnow do i tail :)
[02:55] <un_operateur> aled -- this is how its done -- shutdown -r now
[02:55] <T1> futzilogik: does it just do it for one cd or all of them?
[02:56] <aled> un_operateur: I just typed reboot and...erm it rebooted lol
[02:56] <un_operateur> midgetg0at,   at a terminal -- tail -f /var/log...
[02:56] <un_operateur> aled .. nice ha ha :)
[02:56] <futzilogik> T1, usually it get's it right, but I have burned a sampler of my own, and now it says this is an album of "moist", whoever this is ....
[02:56] <midgetg0at> when i try to login on the windows box...it should be showing up on tail?
[02:57] <futzilogik> T1, it's a pitty it doesn't use cd-text cause all the info is there on the cd...
[02:57] <T1> futzilogik: if its your own compliation it will probably just find the closest match, the best thing to do is submit the track listing to freedb
[02:57] <midgetg0at> because nothigns showing up
[02:57] <un_operateur> midgetg0at, the log.smbd will log why the login attempts from windows XP were failing
[02:57] <timo901> futzilogik: well i did sey configure
[02:57] <un_operateur> midgetg0at, check to see if that file actually exists there
[02:58] <futzilogik> time901: you mean ./configure --enable-sth?
[02:58] <cmt^^> Zaggynl - thanks for the tip, looks promising
[02:58] <un_operateur> midgetg0at,  ls -l ,,,
[02:58] <slacktyro> i'm able to record cds but no able to record dvds, what can it be?
[02:58] <midgetg0at> interesting...i just see server starts in that file
[02:58] <midgetg0at> apparently the samba server is never getting hit...
[02:58] <aled> un_operateur: no luck :( there's another error file after the first one which is pretty big
[02:58] <un_operateur> midgetg0at, xp is failing because something's amis -- if the server was never hit -- the xp will complain about the share not existing
[02:58] <timo901> midgetg0at:hit ?
[02:58] <midgetg0at> i tried to access the share from both vmware xp and an actual xp box.
[02:59] <Zaggynl> cmt^^, I have very good experiences with it, but always burn first on a DVD-RW
[02:59] <timo901> did it work ?
[02:59] <un_operateur> aled, ok, in brief -- can you tell us what the new error is saying?
[02:59] <midgetg0at> well, if the server was hit, it's not getting logged in taht file.
[02:59] <aled> un_operateur: give me a min, just restarted again
[03:00] <un_operateur> midgetg0at, ahh vmware -- have you made sure that the vmware host OS name is different to ubuntu's machine name?
[03:00] <timo901> some how i dont think samba is to blame
[03:00] <midgetg0at> yes, they are different
[03:00] <futzilogik> ok, thanks T1 + timo901!
[03:00] <midgetg0at> timo901: it doesnt even work from an actual xp box...
[03:00] <yakumo> hello i install some software using wine and the shortcut appear on my desktop but when i double when i try to execute it error mssg appear any can help me with this
[03:00] <un_operateur> midgetg0at, rather than try using the same username and password -- try something different -- create a new user on samba and try again
[03:00] <midgetg0at> so far it's not acting like a vmware problem.
[03:01] <midgetg0at> ok, sec.
[03:01] <un_operateur> yakumo, do you know how to use wine?
[03:01] <midgetg0at> so i need an ubuntu user w/ the same name first...
[03:02] <timo901> i done a network my self,not once did i try a fix samba just my connection
[03:02] <yakumo> i setup using sudo wine 'program name'
[03:02] <un_operateur> midgetg0at, no different username and password -- completely different to your windows one
[03:02] <yakumo> i setup using sudo wine 'program name' or the .exe
[03:02] <aled> un_operateur: I think it's a more detailed file of the previous one but it goes on about how it can't find some font files, PCI scanning, loading files and modules and then ends with the same piece of information that no screens found
[03:02] <justin__> anyone know how to get borders to work after i start beryl-manager? i have tried to reload window manager and it doens't change anything
[03:02] <Vuen> egad
[03:02] <Vuen> sudo wine is almost certainly a bad idea
[03:02] <IdleOne> yakumo,  cd to directory where program is installed then type wine programname to start the program
[03:02] <Vuen> trojaned windows programs will scribble all over your harddrive
[03:03] <timo901> justin__: are barders windows ?
[03:03] <un_operateur> yakumo, what i want to know is if the program installed probably or not?
[03:03] <timo901> sort of like the fames around the window ?
[03:03] <justin__> timo901, what?
[03:03] <justin__> yes
[03:03] <un_operateur> Vuen, windows viruses can only affect the ~/.wine directory -- thats about it
[03:03] <un_operateur> aled .. hmm, just one moment
[03:03] <justin__> timo901, like i have no title or the close buttons or nothin
[03:03] <slacktyro> there're a lib to be able to record dvds?
[03:03] <timo901> when then you have a beryl problem ,what you card ?
[03:03] <Vuen> un_operateur: not if you run them as root. wine mounts z: as /
[03:03] <elysium444> !wine
[03:03] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:04] <timo901> justin__:i know what you mean
[03:04] <Vuen> un_operateur: so if you sudo wine <virus>, it can scribble all over your root partition
[03:04] <justin__> nvidia, 6800 GT it's not that
[03:04] <midgetg0at> Failed to initialise SAM_ACCOUNT for user test. Does this user exist in the UNIX password database ?
[03:04] <midgetg0at> and i did create the user....
[03:04] <yakumo> the folder name appear on /home/yakumo/.wine/drive_c/Program Files so i think it is install
[03:04] <aled> un_operateur: ok, I don't paticularly want to reinstall Ubuntu as well as I have quite a few files on there I should of really backed up...but I dind't
[03:04] <timo901> justin__:you have that configured correctly have you ?
[03:04] <justin__> timo901, it's not the card it's a setting i have missing or something
[03:04] <justin__> timo901, yes b/c games work
[03:05] <timo901> didi it work the first tiem you logged on
[03:05] <stefg> there have been studies to see, if wine is vulnerable by virusses. They didn't find a single /worm/Trojan/Virus working on wine properly... That's how bad wine is: won't even run the most common win-programs :-)
[03:05] <whimsical> damn stefg - wine sux
[03:05] <justin__> timo901, no i have jsut installed beryl, and i havn't been able to get window borders unless i use Metacity as my window manager
[03:05] <thoreauputic> stefg: submit a bug repoert ;p
[03:05] <midgetg0at> k...so now i use that new user account (test/test) from windows to connect to the share...
[03:05] <timo901> ok justin__:
[03:05] <thoreauputic> *report
[03:06] <midgetg0at> and WTF - it works
[03:06] <slacktyro> stefg: the driver is working with cds
[03:06] <midgetg0at> bah, what a waste of time!
[03:06] <un_operateur> aled, well, not just yet -- try this -- at the terminal -- sudo aptitude remove x11-common; sudo aptitude install x11-common
[03:06] <Vuen> stefg: obviously the programs won't understand the linux file system; it's not like they'll know how to make themselves autorun through wine. the point is if you sudo wine, they can WRITE there, and some viruses do that. do you really want a win32 program writing itself to /boot for example?
[03:06] <midgetg0at> anyway, thanks guys, finally got it working :)
[03:06] <timo901> regoing to have to restart all the beryl sevices
[03:06] <midgetg0at> now i can go smoke and cry because my daughter will be up soon and i've yet to do any real work tonight :-/
[03:06] <slacktyro> stefg: i already see dvds here, but now i'm not able to mount it
[03:06] <midgetg0at> anyway, thanks again
[03:06] <Vuen> stefg: even if it can't execute anything malicious, i sure don't want it to have write acccess.
[03:06] <elysium444> can wine and cedega both be installed?
[03:06] <pandrew> removing ehci_hcd helped! :-) thanks. now another question: can i try somehow something between the two? so that it will still be faster?
[03:06] <Vuen> elysium444: yep
[03:06] <elysium444> thanks
[03:07] <IdleOne> elysium444, sure
[03:07] <timo901>  midgetg0at: congrats man
[03:07] <timo901>  justin__: still with me ?
[03:07] <emun> is the mythtv live cd  bootimg from cd and staying there or do I have to install the os bcause i already have ubuntu  and where can i diwnload the livecd
[03:07] <pandrew> also about usb 2.0 is there a fixed timing? i mean can it be the problem that a crystal in my device is not the required
 i browse on my folder where the program is installed and error mssg appear 'components mswinsck.ocx or one of its dependecies is not correctly installed
[03:07] <pandrew> frequency?
[03:08] <justin__> timo901, no i not sure what you mean? everything in beryl is working.. the cude, the bluring water drops... just have no borders around my windwos
[03:08] <un_operateur> yakumo, you need to copy that file across from a windows system32 folder
[03:08] <aled> un_operateur: done
[03:08] <un_operateur> yakumo, into wine's system32 folder obviously
[03:08] <Vuen> justin__: you need to add ARGBVisuals to your xorg.conf
[03:08] <slacktyro> to record dvds, is necessary any lib?
[03:08] <alper> hello guys, I ve downloaded an icon package, how can I use it??
[03:08] <timo901> justin__:dont worry we will sort this out
[03:08] <yakumo> but i do't have windows install...
[03:08] <Vuen> justin__: look on the wiki on www.beryl-project.org to see how to do that
[03:08] <un_operateur> aled -- ok, next one -- sudo dpkg-reconfigure --priority low gdm
[03:08] <timo901> i had this problem my self
[03:08] <yakumo> but i don't have windows install...
[03:09] <highneko> Dpkg says: No packages found matching *mplayer*. But i used to be able to get these packages just by uncommenting my sources.list file. Is there some copyright problem they're having maybe?
[03:09] <stefg> !mplayer
[03:09] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[03:09] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[03:09] <gilnim> hello
[03:09] <houseB> hi.. can an ADSL modem work as a dialup ?
[03:09] <aled> un_operateur: ok done so
[03:09] <slacktyro> !dvd
[03:09] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:09] <highneko> stefg: Thanks, but that's not exactly the answer I was looking for. :3
[03:09] <justin__> Vuen, awesome thanks, must have missed that step
[03:09] <un_operateur> aled -- CTRL+ALT+F7 ..
[03:10] <justin__> timo901, thanks for the help though
[03:10] <Vuen> justin__: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install/Ubuntu
[03:10] <timo901> sorted ?
[03:10] <stefg> highneko: read carefully... the sentence starts with ... enable the universe repo .... :-)
[03:10] <aled> un_operateur: it just takes me back to that error screen
[03:10] <aled> should I reboot?
[03:10] <Vuen> justin__: until you get emerald working, remember alt+click moves windows and alt+middleclick resizes them
[03:10] <gabi> hi - i need some help with setting thunderbird on Dapper
[03:11] <un_operateur> aled -- ok -- back to command prompt and this -- sudo /etc/init.d/gdm reload
[03:11] <emun> please where is the livecd for mythtv available for download
[03:11] <stefg> highneko: forgot to sudo apt-get update after editing /etc/apt/sources.list?
[03:11] <justin__> Vuen, thanks
[03:11] <timo901> Vuen:its an easy problem to solve ,looks like he has
[03:11] <highneko> stefg: No.
[03:11] <timo901> sudo apt-get update -f
[03:11] <aled> un_operateur: ok it says Changes will take effect when all current X sessions have loaded...
[03:12] <gilnim> I installed Windows XP on a second partition (E:/)- Win wrote its bootsector on the first partition (C:/)
[03:12] <gilnim> after that I installed ubuntu on the first partition (C:/)
[03:12] <gilnim> i thought grub would recognise win xp but it didn't. i can boot ubuntu but i donno what to do to get win xp to boot
[03:12] <gabi> i get an error saying the mail server responded 5.7.0 when trying to send mail from thunderbird
[03:12] <un_operateur> aled -- ok  -- sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart;
[03:12] <stefg> !grub
[03:12] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:12] <highneko> I was asking, I used to be able to get these packages just by uncommenting that file. Is the package available for you people? maybe it's just my local mirror?
[03:13] <un_operateur> highneko, can you pastebin your sources.list please
[03:13] <aled> un_operateur: failed to start the X server again, I haven't a clue whats wrong :(
[03:13] <gilnim> stefg: i need some help restoring windows - not grub ...
[03:13] <un_operateur> aled, can you tell me briefly what the error is saying? what files are missing? etc
[03:13] <highneko> this one should do it right? deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[03:14] <un_operateur> gilnim, you said you installed XP to C:  and then ubuntu on C: ... errm, what does that say?
[03:14] <emun> who knows how to install mythtv
[03:14] <stefg> gilnim: look into /boot/grub/menu.lst, you'll find a premade entry for a win-boot there, just uncomment it and adapt it to your situation
[03:14] <gilnim> un_operateur: i installed xp on E: and linux after that on C:
[03:14] <gilnim> stefg: doesn't work
[03:15] <stefg> !does:t work
[03:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about does:t work - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:15] <un_operateur> gilnim, the boot sector to windows usually must always reside on C: -- if you install anything on C: afterwards it gets overridden -- so the bootsector no longer exists
[03:15] <stefg> !doesnt work
[03:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about doesnt work - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:15] <gilnim> stefg: i'm not quite sure how grub counts the partitions
[03:15] <stefg> !doesn't work
[03:15] <ubotu> Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[03:16] <_3lj> hey all, im having problems, im trying to install ubuntu server, to just get to the comand line, and to install fluxbox ontop, and i have used apt-get to install all the xserver stuff, but whenenver i try and start it, i get an "Error: Couldn't connect to XServer" is this common/anyone else had it? / know of any sites which tell me how to fix it?
[03:16] <gilnim> un_operateur: i know - i want to know if someone knows how to restore it
[03:16] <stefg> gilnim: grub counts by starting at 0, not at 1... /dev/hda1 == (hd0,0)
[03:16] <IdleOne> ubotu, tell gilnim about grub
[03:17] <gilnim> does it count the difference between primary and extendet parition?
[03:17] <aled> un_operateur: give me a mo
[03:17] <stefg> gilnim:  please read the grub manual
[03:17] <emun> bye, simce i cam not get help  with this mythtv stuff
[03:17] <gilnim> cya
[03:18] <un_operateur> gilnim, you'll need to restore the win bootloader to c:\ .. install ubuntu on someother extended partition (not C:) .. and then configure grub to boot windows of C: and ubuntu of the partition to which /boot corresponds to
[03:19] <stefg> un_operateur: he'd get ntldr missing, if that's the case
sorry but i don't have windows install is there any way to fix it??? :)
[03:19] <aled> un_operateur: http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b134/einsteinshamster/STA60028.jpg that is what I get
[03:20] <un_operateur> stefg, thats always how i've dual booted
[03:20] <un_operateur> stefg, how do you do it?
[03:20] <un_operateur> yakumo, you have a windows CD perhaps??
[03:20] <yakumo> yup
i have windows xp cd
[03:21] <stefg> un_operateur: i have a 100 MB service/boot/grub partition ... somewhat to complex to explain in 2 lines
[03:22] <biotrox> !xmms
[03:22] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[03:22] <un_operateur> yakumo, ok, what was the name of the file again?
[03:23] <Afief> How do i upgrade from Dapper to Edgy?
[03:23] <spikeb> !upgrade
[03:23] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
sori but what file again??? :)
[03:25] <stefg> _3lj: Why don't you use fluxbuntu?... have you already done 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' ?
[03:25] <_3lj> i tried fluxbuntu, but was trying to learn how to do it from scratch, perhaps where im going wrong :-P
[03:26] <un_operateur> stefg, thats what i mean too -- C:\ as 100Mb -- E:\ as say 20GB -- linux boot next and / after that -- XP installs to E:\ but writes boot.ini to C:\ and NTLDR to boot sector -- ubuntu installs normall on /boot and / but overwrites the bootsector -- if it is then configured properly to boot windows off of C: and linux off of /boot it ought to work
[03:26] <Russel> hiho
[03:26] <un_operateur> yakumo, what is the name of the file that you are missing in wine??
[03:26] <thoreauputic> _3lj: first install x-window-system-core, and maybe at least an xterm
[03:26] <sally2> can one share files between mac osx and ubuntu?
sori wait for a moment.
[03:27] <Russel> i got a problem: i installed dapper and updatet to edgy but now if i want to login to gnome the gnome loads and crashes (after loading update manager)
[03:27] <theblue> Hi all.
[03:27] <_3lj> (and no i havent tried, that, dare i ask, what does that do? (im a bit new to linux, just getting the hang of apt-get, what does dpkg do? :-/)
[03:27] <pedro> Hi all. I want to install beryl in my desktop.
[03:27] <stefg> _3lj: you are probably miising some packages (xfonts is very popular to be forgotten). That's where metapackages help, because the draw all the right dependencies
[03:27] <theblue> Is there a way to have a common set of login/passwords, home directories, etc. across several servers?
[03:27] <Russel> it crashes me back to gdm if i try to login again the whole pc freezes can't even get to a tty
[03:28] <un_operateur> aled, ok, i'm just doing a search ATM -- bear with me
[03:28] <pedro> but i dont know what 3d card i have?
[03:28] <aled> un_operateur: it's ok, the wait for Christmas takes long enough, in your own time as you've been such a great help to me so far :)
[03:28] <pedro> how can i know? anyone know a good howto about beryl?
mswinsck.ocx
[03:29] <_3lj> stefg: ah ok, ill try the dpkg and also look to make sure i have gotten all the xfonts, thanks for the help, brb
[03:30] <thoreauputic> _3lj: x-window-system-core and xterm should give you a base: install fluxbox and startx should then start it, although better would be startfluxbox
[03:31] <thoreauputic> or startx /usr/bin/startfluxbox
[03:32] <savvas> does ubuntu have a dns cache program?
[03:32] <thoreauputic> savvas:  dnsmasq is a dns cache program I believe
[03:32] <thoreauputic> !info dnsmasq
[03:32] <ubotu> dnsmasq: A small caching DNS proxy and DHCP server. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.33-1 (edgy), package size 174 kB, installed size 580 kB
[03:33] <timo901> Checking for required C library versions ... OK
[03:33] <timo901> Checking for X ... OK
[03:33] <timo901> Checking for TCL Scripting Language ... failed
[03:33] <timo901> -------------------------------
[03:33] <timo901> Error: Could not find 'TCL Scripting Language'. Try using the native package manager for Ubuntu 6.10 (apt-get) to install a package with similar name to 'tcl'.
[03:33] <timo901> Error: Unable to prepare package AMSN MSN client.
[03:33] <Life> dont paste here
[03:33] <savvas> thoreauputic: i mean does it have pre-installed/default dns cache program?
[03:33] <Life> !paste
[03:33] <timo901> ok
[03:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:34] <timo901> ok
[03:34] <thoreauputic> savvas: not as far as i know
[03:34] <Life> timo: do what it says, apt-get it
[03:34] <savvas> ok thanks
[03:34] <timo901> yeh i dont sudo apt-get install tcl
[03:34] <timo901> nothing ....
[03:34] <Cosmonaut3030> timo901: should be apt-get install tcl amsn
[03:35] <timo901> ahh i almost had it
[03:35] <Cosmonaut3030> timo901: apt-cache search tcl-tk
[03:35] <Life> do apt-get update then search for it
[03:35] <thoreauputic> timo901: if you are compling look for -dev packages
also i have download a zip file that has a plugin folder, and the .exe, do i need the plugin folder to completely install it on wine??? :)
[03:37] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> does the install CD come with KDE packages?
[03:37] <Cosmonaut3030> timo901: sudo apt-get install amsn tcltls docker tcl8.4 tk8.4
[03:37] <timo901> i cant find it using atp-get ,im going to try google
[03:37] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> !KDE
[03:37] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[03:37] <stockfisch_> does anyone know how i can find out why cedega does not use my 3d settings?
[03:37] <Cosmonaut3030> timo901: sudo apt-get install amsn tcltls docker tcl8.4 tk8.4
[03:37] <timo901> ohh ok thanks
[03:37] <Cosmonaut3030> It should work.
[03:37] <Cosmonaut3030> Does it?
[03:38] <un_operateur> yakumo, errm that would depend on the applications -- i dont think that related to wine
[03:38] <timo901> :)thx
[03:38] <Cosmonaut3030> Np :)
[03:38] <un_operateur> yakumo, do you have an email address? i'll send you the ocx file
[03:38] <yakumo> ok thnks
[03:38] <stockfisch_> glxinfo shows dri=on, but cedegy does not find it
[03:38] <thoreauputic> timo901: use apt-cache search <keywords> to find things
[03:38] <yakumo> yes its... anime_namida@yahoo.com
[03:39] <theblue> How would I set up a quota for users?
[03:39] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> !synaptic
[03:39] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[03:40] <stefg> !quota
[03:40] <ubotu> quota: implementation of the disk quota system. In component main, is optional. Version 3.13-8 (edgy), package size 393 kB, installed size 1196 kB
[03:40] <adam0509> hello
[03:40] <arnor> adam0509: hello
[03:40] <arnor> all: Hello :)
[03:40] <timo901> thoreauputic:for instance i should have sudo apt-cache amsn tcl ?
[03:40] <adam0509> do someone knows how to restart X ? I'm making a script...
[03:40] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> !hi | adam0509 , arnor
[03:40] <ubotu> adam0509 , arnor: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:41] <poppyer> hi all, my SHIFT-NUMLOCK to use keyboard simualte mouse is not working, any setting/files should I check
[03:41] <stockfisch_> /etc/init.d/gdm|xgl restart
[03:41] <adam0509> "startx" is for start, bbut is there any "stopx" or something like that ?
[03:41] <adam0509> I'm not using XGL
[03:41] <adam0509> it's for a old PIII
[03:41] <stefg> adam0509: if you run this script from a terminal inside X it will hardly continue after that command :-)
[03:41] <thoreauputic> timo901: no, apt-cache search amsn tcl  ( sudo not needed for search)
[03:41] <un_operateur> yakumo, n/m -- here you are -- www.aliensoftware.co.uk/Files0908/MSWINSCK.OCX
[03:41] <stockfisch_> ah, sorry this is for gnome, not for x
[03:41] <timo901> ohh ok
[03:41] <poppyer> adam0509, try CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE
[03:41] <luxu> I use old p2 300m
[03:42] <timo901> thx
[03:42] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> how can i get synaptic to display only packages from the CD roM?
[03:42] <un_operateur> yakumo, if you want additional files -- www.dll-files.com
[03:42] <adam0509> stefg => I want to copy xorg.conf.tv to xorg.conf then restart X
[03:42] <arnor> adam0509: or just have a look on "init" documentation
[03:42] <un_operateur> aled, you there?
[03:42] <thoreauputic> timo901: sudo apt-get install apt-howto && apt-howto  ;-)
[03:42] <thoreauputic> seriously
[03:42] <adam0509> it's for a Geforce 256DDR using TV-OUT
 ok thnks
[03:42] <vonbruno> hi all. any expert have 10 mins to help me with kubuntu 6.10 install?
[03:42] <johns^> adam0509: ctrl-alt-backspace kills the x server
[03:43] <un_operateur> !anyone | vonbruno
[03:43] <ubotu> vonbruno: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:43] <adam0509> johns^, => I know, but I want a command so that itt will be INSIDE the script
[03:43] <johns^> ah
[03:43] <adam0509> just avec copying xorg.conf.tv to xorg
[03:43] <johns^> killall gdm
[03:43] <johns^> \?
[03:43] <thoreauputic> vonbruno: also try /join #kubuntu
[03:43] <adam0509> after*
[03:43] <timo901> thoreauputic:yep
[03:43] <timo901> thanks for the wisdom
[03:43] <aled> un_operateur: am now
[03:44] <stefg> adam0509: on ubuntu it's wiser to restart gdm... sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[03:44] <un_operateur> aled, have a look at this -- http://lists.debian.org/debian-x/2006/10/msg00395.html
[03:44] <thoreauputic> timo901: you can find the apt howto on line too
[03:44] <aled> un_operateur: thanks :) will do
[03:44] <un_operateur> aled, well, it's saying -- you dont need that module
[03:44] <adam0509> ...mmm gonna test some things, thanks all for the answer
[03:45] <un_operateur> aled, and that you'll need to comment it out of your xorg.conf gile
[03:45] <thoreauputic> timo901: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/
[03:45] <aled> un_operateur: so I have to comment that line out in the xorg.conf file?
[03:45] <aled> un_operateur: lol ok
[03:45] <un_operateur> aled, ha, yea :)
[03:45] <aled> un_operateur: how will I do that using the command line? sorry If I'm becoming a pain
[03:45] <un_operateur> aled, at the terminal -- sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:46] <un_operateur> aled, no worries -- I learn too eh :)
[03:46] <vonbruno> ok - i'm trying to install ubuntu 6.10 live cd on asus a2d laptop (ati mobility radeon, via chipset, amd) - kernel loads, but installation halts before anything shows up
[03:47] <vonbruno> tried with noapic, nolapic and vga=771
[03:47] <un_operateur> aled, I dunno how the line looks like -- but the point is -- once you find it -- put a # at the beginning of the line
[03:47] <aled> un_operateur: ok I'm guessing it's the one that says Load "GLcore"
[03:47] <wasabi_> when compiling a new kernel, do i have to do it on the same machine or can i just compile it on a different machine and then transfer?
[03:48] <un_operateur> aled, aye, that sure looks like it
[03:48] <DinmO> Is there a good program to safely copy stuff over, because nautilus always just terminates and stops without warning
[03:48] <aled> un_operateur: so just a # at the beginning right?
[03:48] <alper> hi, where can I find the userChrome of Firefox? ./mozilla/firefox/XXXXXXX.XXXXX/chrome/userChrome.css
[03:48] <alper> where is that?
[03:48] <DinmO> And I never know if it copied over right
[03:48] <DinmO> until it's too late
[03:48] <un_operateur> wasabi_, you can do either -- but ideally you should do it on the same machine so it finds the right kernel headers and modules
[03:48] <un_operateur> aled, yes
[03:49] <wasabi_> un_operateur, oh yea! i forgot about that
[03:49] <wasabi_> i was trying to save time because my laptop is fairly slow
[03:49] <aled> ok shall I just now reboot un_operateur
[03:49] <un_operateur> aled, have you saved the file , etc etc
[03:49] <un_operateur> ?
[03:49] <aled> yeah
[03:49] <un_operateur> aled, if you have just verify that the changes are made -- less /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:50] <gili> how does one customize the taskbar
[03:50] <gili> ?>
[03:50] <lmg> oh, that was quick. hi #ubuntu! :)
[03:50] <gili> yes i am new
[03:50] <thoreauputic> alper: in your home directory - hit ctrl-h in nautilus to see hidden dot files
[03:50] <grimeboy> gili, Right click
[03:50] <alper> thanks thoreauputic
[03:50] <grimeboy> gili, Add to Panel
[03:50] <aled> un_operateur: yeah its been saved, now that I've done that less thing how do I get out of it?
[03:50] <grimeboy> gili, Shove what you want on there.
[03:51] <un_operateur> aled -- q :)
[03:51] <lmg> catch you later maybe! *waves*
[03:51] <wasabi_> un_operateur, is there an optimization guide for compiling kernel specific to intel m laptops?
[03:51] <gili> yes i know that
[03:51] <wasabi_> pentium m*
[03:51] <gili> i meant customizing the lok
[03:51] <gili> look
[03:51] <aled> un_operateur: :D I remember that now, sometimes they are pretty simple, I have learnt a lot today :)
[03:52] <gili> like i dont want it to say "applications"
[03:52] <un_operateur> aled -- also remembed this sequence -- CTRL+C incase you get stuck in a utility -- it almost always terminate it and brings you back to the terminal
[03:52] <gili> i want it to say start or GNome or whatever...
[03:52] <grimeboy> Is there a way to get screenshots to not suck on dual head in gnome?
[03:52] <aled> un_operateur: I certainly won't forget that then :)
[03:52] <un_operateur> wasabi -- errm, not that i know off-- its not my speciality -- i've only done it twice and both times it's pretty straight forward as long as you know what modules to include and what not to
[03:53] <aled> un_operateur: do you know where the best place is to learn about the CLI and networking and administrating other PCs using it etc.?
[03:53] <gili> so.....how do i customize the taskbar to Look different
[03:53] <gili> ??
[03:53] <rance> I need some help with a sound card detection problem, I HAVE read the standard ubuntu sound help pages that the ubot spits out, but no avail.  I have read that there is a bug in the alsa module that improperly detects the features of the sound card, but for the record the right module IS loaded, can someone give me a hand, or at least a more informative pointer than the standard sound helps, cause they dont help any more
[03:53] <un_operateur> !docs
[03:53] <ubotu> documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[03:53] <un_operateur> aled ^^
[03:54] <wasabi_> un_operateur, okay thanks
[03:54] <un_operateur> aled .. then you might like to consider browsing the oreilly bookshelves
[03:54] <gili> i want the applications button on taskbar eddited to something else....how do i do that>
[03:54] <gili> ?
[03:54] <wasabi_> un_operateur, i will search around
[03:54] <tdog> can you help me fix my resolution .. ?
[03:54] <stefg> !fixres
[03:54] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:54] <aled> un_operateur: thanks. ah ok. Well it looks like I'll be able to start from scratch at this rate as it's still not working :|
[03:54] <un_operateur> wasabi_, if you do and you succeed in building you might like to contribute to the wiki :)
[03:54] <tdog> i had kubuntu installed, booted and today my resolution has been changed
[03:54] <ReTyPe> how is that program called that visualizes the size of files and filders on a graphical diagram ?
[03:54] <tdog> i can not fix this
[03:54] <un_operateur> aled, did you reboot?
[03:55] <wasabi_> un_operateur, i certainly will
[03:55] <tdog> i removed k. and im in GNOME
[03:55] <aled> un_operateur: yeah
[03:55] <tdog> have the same problems
[03:55] <un_operateur> aled, whats it this time?
[03:55] <wasabi_> un_operateur, the ubuntu wiki?
[03:55] <un_operateur> wasabi_, yep
[03:55] <bibek> hello room
[03:55] <ubek_> people i have problem to shut down my laptop comant like poweroff shutdown does not work
[03:55] <ubek_> i have acpi=off
[03:55] <stefg> tdog: sudo dpkg-rconfigure xserver-xorg (from console.... not from within X)
[03:56] <ubek_> some advice?
[03:56] <bibek> im looking for suggestion for a firewall
[03:56] <aled> un_operateur: exactly the same error
[03:56] <stefg> tdog: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (from console.... not from within X)
[03:56] <wasabi_> un_operateur, i will do this as soon as i get my new charger in the mail... lol.. it's kinda hard to compile a new kernel when running on battery
[03:56] <tdog> im not good at linux, i tired that , but i don't undrestand most of it
[03:56] <aled> un_operateur: maybe I should just re-install Ubuntu :(
[03:56] <tdog> tried
[03:56] <x-r00t-x> hello guys . can anyone help me with con conky
[03:56] <un_operateur> aled, verify that the xorg.conf file wasnt changed on reboot
[03:56] <wasabi_> i'm off to bed. later guys
[03:56] <un_operateur> aled, - less /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:57] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> totem was supposed to have crashed... but it seemed to work fine ;)
[03:57] <x-r00t-x> !conky
[03:57] <ubotu> conky: highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.2-1 (edgy), package size 118 kB, installed size 376 kB
[03:57] <bibek> can anyone recommend a firewall??
[03:57] <thoreauputic> bibek: firestarter, but you won't need it unless you rub services ( apache etc or maybe ssh)
[03:57] <un_operateur> bibek, the one and only iptables
[03:57] <aled> un_operateur: no change
[03:57] <bibek> im on kubuntu and dont want firestarter
[03:57] <malt> Hello, what is the source list path in ubuntu? so my package manger can download alot of other packages
[03:57] <bibek> any similar programs?
[03:57] <x-r00t-x> bibek, firestarter
[03:57] <stefg> bibek: you already have one.. iptables, which is the only one you need
[03:58] <thoreauputic> bibek: guarddog
[03:58] <x-r00t-x> !firestarter bibek
[03:58] <ubotu> firestarter: gtk program for managing and observing your firewall. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 383 kB, installed size 1884 kB
[03:58] <berbear_> if i  run apache for my own use, do i need a firewall?
[03:58] <un_operateur> aled, if there are no changes, then its impossible to get the same error
[03:58] <x-r00t-x> berbear_, no already firewall already installed
[03:58] <thoreauputic> !info guarddog
[03:58] <ubotu> guarddog: firewall configuration utility for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.0-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 476 kB, installed size 1424 kB
[03:58] <x-r00t-x> iptables
[03:58] <bibek> learning iptables???
[03:58] <tdog> if i reinstall linux, would that remove my APACHE config and all the scripts that i have there running ?
[03:58] <bibek> any nice GUI tool beside firestarter? :-D
[03:59] <thoreauputic> x-r00t-x: configuring iptables is hardly easy for new users :)
[03:59] <aled> un_operateur: hmm, there's a hash still infront of that line, let me reboot again to see if I can notice a difference
[03:59] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> !repositories | malt
[03:59] <ubotu> malt: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[03:59] <bibek> guarddog?? hmm
[03:59] <stefg> tdog: that depends... but sure, if everything is on one partition
[03:59] <thoreauputic> bibek: I gave you one above for KDE
[03:59] <x-r00t-x> thoreauputic, yes i know
[03:59] <MarcN> tdog: only if you do apt-get --purge apache2  (apt-get remove apache2 just removes the binaries and 'things that don't change')
[03:59] <un_operateur> tdog, not unless you format the partition and reinstall apache itself -- best you make an offline backup of important config files
[03:59] <Lunar_Lamp> How do I execute a script as a normal user with root privellages? That is, how do I allow a user to do something as root without giving them sudo acess? Is it chmod 0755?
[03:59] <bibek> thoreauputic: guarddog??
[03:59] <x-r00t-x> bibek, install firestarter . its will be easy for you
[03:59] <thoreauputic> bibek: Guarddog is pretty good ( haven't used it fo a few years)
[04:00] <tdog> my problme is resolution of my system just changed today .. lol . no idea how to fix that
[04:00] <stefg> Lunar_Lamp: man setuid
[04:00] <x-r00t-x> thoreauputic, i dont like guarddog
[04:00] <Lunar_Lamp> stefg, thanks
[04:00] <thoreauputic> bibek: yes, if you run kubuntu, guarddog is qt/KDE
[04:00] <thoreauputic> x-r00t-x: tastes vary
[04:00] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> malt , /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:00] <bibek> x-r00t-x: installing firestarter on KUBUNTU will install gnome-stuffs
[04:00] <malt> thanks
[04:00] <bibek> thoreauputic: yeah thanks
[04:00] <Lunar_Lamp> stefg -  man setuid
[04:00] <Lunar_Lamp> No manual entry for setuid
[04:00] <berbear_> i dun find firestarter in my menu.. how do i run it
[04:00] <thoreauputic> bibek: install guarddog and see if you like it
[04:00] <stefg> Lunar_Lamp: got it..
[04:01] <thoreauputic> berbear_: you need to install it first :)
[04:01] <x-r00t-x> bibek, umm i dont know about about kde
[04:01] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> hey anyone  had crashing problem with totem when u tried to change visualization size?
[04:01] <x-r00t-x> lol
[04:01] <bibek> thoreauputic: will do that, thanks a lot
[04:01] <aled> un_operateur: ah wait, it says (EE) No devices detected.
[04:01] <berbear_> i installed firestarter using spm already
[04:01] <stefg> Lunar_Lamp: you want the script to run 'setuid root'
[04:01] <bibek> got to see Arsenal's game
[04:01] <bibek> see ya
[04:01] <x-r00t-x> berbear_, sudo apt-get install firestarter
[04:01] <aled> un_operateur: but no error about files just some ionfo about it loading the xorg.conf file
[04:01] <thoreauputic> berbear_: erm, install it from synaptic or add/remove applications
[04:01] <AcidStriker> I had been trying to install tcl.h. I have try many packages but non of them seem to include it. Someone know which package I have to install
[04:02] <x-r00t-x> thoreauputic, can you help me with conky ?
[04:02] <un_operateur> aled, can you click up another snap -- it'd be great :)
[04:02] <thoreauputic> berbear_: using rpm on ubuntu is crazy :)
[04:02] <berbear_> hmm sorry  i meant spm
[04:02] <berbear_> synaptic
[04:02] <aled> un_operateur: ok :)
[04:02] <thoreauputic> x-r00t-x: not really - I j=had a look at it but I don't like it *grin*
[04:02] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> thoreauputic ,use alien .....
[04:03] <thoreauputic> GreyGhost-Ubuntu: *cough* not really a good way to go
[04:03] <thoreauputic> GreyGhost-Ubuntu: alien is a compromise at best
[04:03] <berbear_> i dont find firestarter in add/remove programs
[04:03] <x-r00t-x> thoreauputic, i just installed few hour ago ... and i cant added on stat up .. i mean i did add but its not working.
[04:03] <thoreauputic> !info firestarter
[04:03] <ubotu> firestarter: gtk program for managing and observing your firewall. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 383 kB, installed size 1884 kB
[04:03] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> thoreauputic , yeah ...true if deb is virtually impossible to find ... then switch to alien ....
[04:03] <thoreauputic> berbear_: you need to enable the extra repositories
[04:03] <ubek_> no niestety P
[04:03] <ubek_> -f nie pomoglo
[04:04] <berbear_> ive enabvled them and installed using synaptic.. but they dun show up in my menu
[04:04] <AcidStriker> I had been trying to install tcl.h. I have try many packages but non of them seem to include it. Someone know which package I have to install
[04:04] <thoreauputic> !repos | berbear_
[04:04] <ubotu> berbear_: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[04:04] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu>  berbear_ , did a reload ?
[04:04] <stefg> Lunar_Lamp: man chmod
[04:04] <Fullmoon> Is there another image for server edition? I cant find a download...
[04:04] <samern> downloads from the ubuntu archive are always very slow, can someone please help?
[04:04] <thoreauputic> samern: try a closer mirror ?
[04:04] <stefg> !download
[04:04] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[04:05] <x-r00t-x> !unrealircd
[04:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unrealircd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:05] <x-r00t-x> !ircd
[04:05] <ubotu> ircd: IRC Server daemon - dummy package. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0 (edgy), package size 6 kB, installed size 36 kB
[04:05] <berbear_> oo found firestarter.. its hidding there heh
[04:05] <thoreauputic> berbear_: :)
[04:05] <Fullmoon> Ah, there is no server image jet for 6.10?
[04:06] <thoreauputic> Fullmoon: sure there is
[04:06] <stefg> Fullmoon: how late is it in your timezone?... :-)
[04:06] <ubek_> people help me with this poweroff
[04:06] <Fullmoon> stefg: 16pm
[04:06] <Fullmoon> stefg: 4pm i meant ;)
[04:06] <Fullmoon> thoreauputic: I found one by changing the url for client-i386 to server-i386, yeah ;)
[04:06] <stefg> Fullmoon: so no there's no excuse.... like being tired or so ;-)
[04:07] <DinmO> Is there a good program to safely copy stuff over, because nautilus always just terminates and stops without warning
[04:07] <Fullmoon> stefg: ;)
[04:07] <un_operateur> DinmO, probably cp at the commandline
[04:07] <berbear_> is iptables enabled by default?
[04:07] <thoreauputic> DinmO: scp, cp
[04:07] <berbear_> is iptables enabled by default?  do i need a firewall if im using a router
[04:07] <un_operateur> berbear_, no
[04:07] <DinmO> Would it stop if there is an error and give me options?
[04:07] <DinmO> Like retry and stuff
[04:07] <thoreauputic> berbear_: yes, but it lets everything in/out
[04:08] <un_operateur> berbear_, its always a good idea to use a firewall
[04:08] <stefg> berbear_: no, and no
[04:08] <berbear_> ok
[04:08] <thoreauputic> by default. iptables has a full ACCEPT policy
[04:08] <un_operateur> stefg, you dont need a firewall if you use a router??
[04:08] <thoreauputic> so yes, it is running by default, just not doing anything :)
[04:08] <berbear_> ah ok
[04:09] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: depends what you have port-forwarded
[04:09] <twager> Anyone using feisty ?
[04:09] <stefg> un_operateur: if your router is is only worth 2 cents it's got it's own firewall in it. Thta'S were it belongs
[04:09] <Tomcat_> twager: Yep.
[04:09] <emo> I'd tried to put xubuntu long time ago but didn't work now I want to upgrade my system for 6.10 and I can't do it when I type gksudo "update-manager -c -d" I get error
[04:09] <samern> updates are always very slow to download :S - can someone please help ?
[04:09] <thoreauputic> twager:  /j #ubuntu+1
[04:09] <twager> Can you get the cnn vids running ?
[04:10] <un_operateur> stefg, that almost like saying -- you dont need anti-virus protection on your PC as long as your mail-server takes care of it
[04:10] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> twager , problem happens to be?
[04:10] <thoreauputic> samern: no enough information - have you tried a different mirror ?
[04:10] <Puffmudda> Im not an native english speaker so pardon my grammar mistakes. Im using Ubuntu 6.10 on my Laptop Amilo M 1425. One major problem is that during reboot the system freezes at the splash screen. But if i like to shutdown there are no problems. Hope somebody can help me here.
[04:10] <twager> Just tell me it cannoy play the files yet I have all the codecs in
[04:10] <samern> thoreauputic: you mean, changing the repos ?
[04:10] <emo> any idea what I have to do guys, please...
[04:11] <thoreauputic> samern: there are mirrors in various countries for apt sources
[04:11] <Tomcat_> emo: You still haven't said what error you get. :o
[04:11] <aled> un_operateur: sorry about the delay, firefox crashed: http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b134/einsteinshamster/STA60029.jpg
[04:11] <samern> thoreauputic: how may I switch to another mirror ?
[04:12] <Tomcat_> samern: Admin => Software Source => Choose
[04:12] <thoreauputic> samern: by editing /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:12] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> twager ,if the codecs are properly instaleld then ... i don't have any idea... :(
[04:12] <thoreauputic> samern: maybe Tomcat_ is right and it can be done that way too
[04:12] <Tomcat_> thoreauputic, samern: Yeah, both work.
[04:13] <DinmO> err how do I use cp, I told it to copy a directory and it said it's omitting it?
[04:13] <thoreauputic> samern: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive/OfficialMirrors
[04:13] <samern> thanks :)
[04:13] <Tomcat_> DinmO: You need to specifiy -r or -a (read man page) to copy recursively (with directories)
[04:13] <TheAsp> Is it possible to get nfs4+krb5 to work with daemons that need to read stuff from home dirs, such as ssh authorized_keys?
[04:13] <DinmO> Oooh that's what it means
[04:13] <DinmO> I read the man
[04:13] <DinmO> but did not know what that meant
[04:13] <Tomcat_> DinmO: :)
[04:13] <thoreauputic> samern: some ISPs also have ubuntu mirrors
[04:14] <un_operateur> aled, ok, i must ask -- do you use an nvidia or ati video card?
[04:14] <twager> All the codecs are there and only cnn does not work !!
[04:14] <DinmO> To add verbose and recursive do I do -vr or -v -r?
[04:14] <DinmO> I'm a command line nub :c
[04:15] <emo> Tomcat_: my add/remove program tells me that I have connetion problem...
[04:15] <thoreauputic> twager: cnn seems to expect a win media player - complain to the webmaster :)
[04:15] <aled> un_operateur: I use ATI Radeon 9800Pro
[04:15] <Tomcat_> emo: Well, do you?
[04:15] <twager> It is ok on my Dapper partition..
[04:15] <thoreauputic> twager: you might be able to d/l fom there with the "unplug" firefox extension
[04:15] <thoreauputic> twager: hmm
[04:16] <emo> Tomcat_:not really otherwise I would browser now would I ?
[04:16] <un_operateur> aled, have a look here -- http://wiki.x.org/wiki/FAQErrorMessages#head-93b1e0b56f76546d61364f789045e9c745b6cfd4
[04:16] <thoreauputic> twager: I have trouble on cnn with dapper
[04:16] <emo> Tomcat_:I mean I wouldn't
[04:16] <Tomcat_> emo: In that case, check your connection to the servers mentioned in /etc/apt/sources.list... either those servers are wrong or your ISP has some problems with them.
[04:17] <aled> un_operateur: ok thanks, I'll have a look
[04:17] <twager> Dpper and edgy are ok with me...so is Mepis but with feisty I am stuck..
[04:17] <un_operateur> aled, basically saying -- that the drivers for the particular card arent being detected properly
[04:17] <DinmO> To add verbose and recursive do I do -vr or -v -r?
[04:17] <bibek> thoreauputic: i wanted to ask u about guarddog
[04:18] <thoreauputic> bibek: I don't use it at the moment - I think it has a help function though :)
[04:18] <thoreauputic> bibek: I just use iptables and an editor here :)
[04:19] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> thats weird ... no apps are starting up ... not even system mo nitor ... no error eithere......
[04:19] <thoreauputic> bibek: what's your question?
[04:19] <aled> un_operateur: erm ok, well I have to go now so I won't be able to fix it until later, I'll bookmark that page and read it later then see if I can fix it later on
[04:19] <emo> Tomcat_:but I think isn't the case because otherwise I wouldn't be able to isntall any software but I made a test and I can do it, so the problem is must something else, I got another pc at the same network and the upgrade for 6.10 was smooth
[04:19] <bibek> thoreauputic: alright
[04:19] <un_operateur> aled, yea, well, atleast now you're half-way there :)
[04:19] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> lets do a restart ....
[04:19] <bibek> thoreauputic: just a general question, how do i enable access of web but block incoming request for my apache server
[04:20] <un_operateur> aled, bookmark this too
[04:20] <un_operateur> !ati
[04:20] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:20] <biotrox> how to install ubuntu to UFD..?
[04:20] <thoreauputic> bibek: just block the http protocol, if I remember how guarddog works
[04:20] <thoreauputic> bibek: or block port 80 incoming
[04:21] <bibek> ah
[04:21] <bibek> let me try it
[04:21] <aled> un_operateur: thank you so much, bye and thanks
[04:21] <un_operateur> aled, good luck and yw :)
[04:22] <gili> so yes i am new....and i want to know how to customize the taksbar....
[04:22] <thoreauputic> bibek: if you are behind a router you probably don't need to, unless you have port 80 forwarded to your box
[04:22] <gili> i want to change the look of the text
[04:22] <emo> Tomcat_: I think because I got gnome and xfce run together well suppost to run together but it doesn't because I try to change from gnome to xfce but I could't and I'm afraid to mess around too much because I don't want loose my files...
[04:23] <gili> i want the taksbar not to say "applications" but something else
[04:23] <thoreauputic> gili: thta's hard-coded in I think
[04:23] <Tomcat_> emo: Well, I don't really know a solution. If you can install software, the update should just work. :\
[04:23] <bibek> thoreauputic: nop
[04:23] <porcho> hi there. I'm trying to run a sega master system emulator in ubuntu breezy, and it's running way too fast. is there a program (like "moslo" for dos) wich I can use to slow it down?
[04:23] <gili> so the look of the taskbar is not customizable
[04:23] <bibek> thoreauputic: in guarddog there is just option of permitting or rejection
[04:23] <gili> ?
[04:24] <biotrox> ubuntu in USB drive anyone..?
[04:24] <thoreauputic> bibek: basically the only incoming ports you need to worry about are ones that have daemons/services listening on them
[04:24] <biotrox> !ubuntu USD drive
[04:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu USD drive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:24] <bibek> thoreauputic: yeah i figured, seems that guarddog only permits or rejects connection
[04:24] <mbutUbuntu> hi people
[04:24] <mbutUbuntu> I've a problem
[04:25] <MarcN> biotrox: Much depends on your BIOS being able to boot from a USB device.
[04:25] <bibek> thoreauputic: wait a sec, i see reject here
[04:25] <mbutUbuntu> I installed an apache server on my Linux box
[04:25] <biotrox> marcn i like to install my ubuntu to usb
[04:25] <eigenlambda> ubuntu prefers eurodrives
[04:25] <thoreauputic> bibek: do you need to have apache listening on the LAN or only on the box itself?
[04:25] <bibek> thoreauputic: nop doesn't work, if i reject or block HTTP -World Wide Proxy then i cannot even browse the net
[04:25] <MarcN> eigenlambda: ;-)
[04:25] <bibek> thoreauputic: its on the box
[04:26] <emo> Tomcat_:so any other advice thing the you would do apart from reformat the machine cos like a said I got too much on it I much rather don't make the upgrade then loose my files..
[04:26] <thoreauputic> bibek: sounds like you have rejected *outgoing*
[04:26] <bibek> thoreauputic: but its not listening always, i only start it when i'm working, but dont want others to mess around
[04:27] <thoreauputic> bibek: I suggest you ask in #kubuntu - it's a long time since I used guarddog
[04:27] <Tomcat_> emo: As I said, you should check if the servers in the sources.list can be reached correctly. Apart from that, no idea. :\
[04:27] <thoreauputic> bibek: I have my own iptables script now
[04:27] <bibek> thoreauputic: alright, thanx for ur help
[04:27] <frogzoo> mbutUbuntu: if you don't ask your question, we can't give you an answer
[04:27] <thoreauputic> no worries :)
[04:27] <bibek> thoreauputic: someday i will to ^_^
[04:27] <bibek> thoreauputic: c ya
[04:27] <thoreauputic> bibek: it is easier than you think :)
[04:28] <MarcN> biotrox: have you tried dd'ing the live iso to a usb device and try booting that?  Again not all BIOS support booting from a usb device.  Mine doesn't, so I've not tried.
[04:28] <biotrox> no need the answer so i can told my friends
[04:28] <thoreauputic> bibek: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[04:28] <emo> Tomcat_: okay I gonna do it, cheers.
[04:28] <biotrox> marcn oke thanks
[04:29] <elysium444> !ntfs
[04:29] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[04:29] <elysium444> !fuse
[04:29] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[04:29] <un_operateur> !ntfs-3g
[04:29] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[04:29] <elysium444> what to use for writing in ntfs for ubuntu 10.6?
[04:29] <elysium444> amd64
[04:30] <un_operateur> elysium444, ntfs-3g ought to do it
[04:30] <elysium444> thanks
[04:30] <biotrox> fues or ntfs-3g
[04:30] <eigenlambda> lolntfs
[04:30] <daggerx> just use caution on it
[04:30] <eigenlambda> all you need2do
[04:30] <eigenlambda> is
[04:30] <daggerx> dont do a partition you love
[04:30] <thoreauputic> !ntfs-3g
[04:30] <eigenlambda> put windows on ext3
[04:30] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[04:30] <eigenlambda> ^much easier
[04:30] <daggerx> ok this is driving me batty here
[04:30] <elysium444> I need to give some data to my friend who has external hd
[04:31] <elysium444> and have ntfs on it
[04:31] <un_operateur> windows on ext3? thats insane
[04:31] <eigenlambda> lol ntfs on xternal
[04:31] <daggerx> i have 3d acceleration... all works great and fast, but my screen savers sux
[04:31] <biotrox> !ntfs-3g | elysium444
[04:31] <ubotu> elysium444: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[04:31] <eigenlambda> who puts ntfs on an external
[04:31] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: not  to mention impossible :)
[04:31] <elysium444> eigenlambda: lol
[04:31] <un_operateur> thoreauputic, well, its definitely possible but no one would attempt it, why should they?
[04:32] <daggerx> anyone have any tips for me?
[04:32] <un_operateur> eigenlambda, lots of people (including me) use ntfs for pen drives -- because unfortunately its more universally used
[04:32] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: ifthey have a lifetime to reverse engineer windows, perhaps ;p
[04:33] <frogzoo> eigenlambda: ntfs supports large file systems unlike fat32
[04:33] <rpereira> Daggerx... I have the same problem.
[04:33] <finalbeta> Where do the icons from firefox skins get placed on the disk?
[04:34] <un_operateur> thoreauputic, I think all it needs doing is to use a module in the windows kernel
[04:34] <daggerx> who here tried to choke down a little of windows vista (ick)
[04:34] <thoreauputic> windows vista -->> #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:34] <rpereira> Daggerx: I think is because of the screen savers are OpenGL too, so it scrambles ....
[04:34] <Saxofoner> Guys, I was trying to update my system yesterday, and update notifier interrupted, and I tried to do a sudo apt-get today, and I got this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38516/
[04:35] <un_operateur> finalbeta, probably under ~/.firefox or ~/.mozilla
[04:35] <DinmO> To add verbose and recursive do I do -vr or -v -r?
[04:35] <theblue> DinmO: -vr
[04:35] <DinmO> Ah thanks
[04:35] <theblue> DinmO: No problem.
[04:35] <un_operateur> Saxofoner, the freecontrib servers are down -- you need to remove those entries from your sources.list
[04:35] <Saxofoner> okay
[04:36] <unimatrix9> does any one know what this means? Error: Cannot gain SYS_RAWIO capability.Is cdrecord installed SUID root?
[04:36] <unimatrix9> : Operation not permitted
[04:36] <thoreauputic> Saxofoner: packages.freecontrib.org no longer exists, I think ( plf server?)
[04:36] <Saxofoner> thanks, I'll comment them out
[04:36] <finalbeta> un_operateur, no, and also not under /usr/share/firefox
[04:36] <unimatrix9> and how to resolve it?
[04:36] <janstedehouder> No more freecontrib? Any idea why?
[04:36] <Saxofoner> Could someone give  me a link to the proper default sources.list?  I f'd mine up yesterday w/ a little help from this IRC channel...
[04:37] <thoreauputic> !easysource
[04:37] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic.  It does not currently support Edgy sources.  When asked if it will, the reply was "maybe".
[04:37] <Saxofoner> thanks ubotu
[04:37] <thoreauputic> hmm no edgy then
[04:37] <jbroome> s/dapper/edgy/ done
[04:37] <thoreauputic> yes
[04:37] <un_operateur> finalbeta, when you mean skins -- just what do you mean?
[04:37] <porcho> hi there. I'm trying to run a sega master system emulator in ubuntu breezy, and it's running way too fast. is there a program (like "moslo" for dos) wich I can use to slow it down?
[04:38] <frogzoo> unimatrix9: the way I fixed that was - create a new group 'cdrom', give yourself group rights, & 'chgrp /dev/hdc' or whatever
[04:38] <thoreauputic> jbroome: assuming all the repos you enable have edgy versions
[04:38] <finalbeta> un_operateur, what I really need is the little close icon firefox puts on each tab.
[04:38] <jbroome> thoreauputic: true, but it's worth a shot
[04:38] <un_operateur> finalbeta, chances are that icon is compiled into the source -- but dont hold me to it
[04:38] <eigenlambda> porcho: not that i know of, but if you run it through a msdos emulator you can slow the emulator down
[04:39] <un_operateur> finalbeta, why are  you asking that in here ??  /join #firefox
[04:39] <gutentag> hi everyone
[04:39] <Kicek> he
[04:39] <Kicek> hi
[04:39] <Kicek> :)
[04:40] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: I think the official &firefox is on a different network, unless something has changed
[04:40] <gutentag> i have a big problem with swiftfox-firefox
[04:40] <thoreauputic> um #firefox
[04:40] <unimatrix9> hmm, but where?
[04:41] <unimatrix9> some on else has an good tip on theis error Is cdrecord installed SUID root?
[04:41] <gutentag> did anyone go on the forums today? i cant retain the cookies and i wanted to know if is only me
[04:41] <unimatrix9> Error: Cannot gain SYS_RAWIO capability.Is cdrecord installed SUID root?
[04:41] <unimatrix9> : Operation not permitted
[04:42] <thoreauputic> firefox channel is probably on irc.mozilla.org
[04:42] <Saxofoner> ubotu: Thanks so much for that link!  I love it!  I think it solved my problem, too.
[04:42] <thoreauputic> Saxofoner: ubotu is a bot :)
[04:43] <Saxofoner> thoreauputic: I feel like an idiot... I just remembered that.  Well, he's a cool bot, anyway!
[04:43] <frogzoo> unimatrix9: why ask the question if you don't acknowledge the replies?
[04:43] <thoreauputic> Saxofoner: indeed :)
[04:43] <unimatrix9> i am looking into your suggestion thnak you..
[04:44] <unimatrix9> but was wondering if there was an other solution
[04:45] <Saxofoner> Buh Bye
[04:45] <arte_> hi!
[04:45] <arte_> can somebody explain me
[04:45] <arte_> how to change boot loader to windows ?
[04:46] <pianoboy3333> What do .debs use for compression? zip? gunzip? bunzip?
[04:46] <janstedehouder> arte-i: what do you want to do?
[04:46] <un_operateur> pianoboy3333, they use ar
[04:46] <arte_> afraid one day grub can down
[04:46] <pianoboy3333> un_operateur: tar?
[04:46] <un_operateur> pianoboy3333, no -- ar as in /usr/bin/ar
[04:46] <arte_> i want to load from win boot loader
[04:47] <arte_> not grub
[04:47] <jbroome> pirate compression: arrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[04:47] <thoreauputic> unimatrix9: what does  ls -l /dev/cdrom say ? does it show a link to say, /dev/hdc ? If so try sudo chown root:cdrom /dev/hd? where ? is c, d or whatever
[04:47] <pianoboy3333> un_operateur: oh...
[04:47] <thoreauputic> unimatrix9: and check that your user is in the cdrom group with the "groups" command
[04:48] <aztecx> how do i play streaming audio
[04:48] <ubuntuuser> i downloaded a .sh package, how do i install it?
[04:48] <arte_> anybody .. how to change boot loader from grub to native win ?
[04:48] <thoreauputic> aztecx: that depends. what format is the stream ?
[04:48] <timo901> can any one help sudo /etc/init.d/lircd start dosnt seem to start lirc
[04:48] <aztecx> windows
[04:48] <un_operateur> pianoboy3333, and IIRC .debs are not compressed per se -- they are plain archives -- although they do house two compressed files
[04:48] <thoreauputic> !codecs| aztecx
[04:48] <ubotu> aztecx: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:49] <janstedehouder> arte_: do you want to remove GRUB? or set it defaut to WIndowns
[04:49] <unimatrix9> cdroms shows up okey
[04:49] <aztecx> thanks
[04:49] <pianoboy3333> un_operateur: thankx
[04:49] <pianoboy3333> *thanks
[04:49] <arte_> yes .. but i want to load ubuntu from win boot loader
[04:49] <thoreauputic> unimatrix9: no, what does the link point to ? /dev/hdc ?
[04:49] <arte_> i afraid grub can down one day
[04:49] <janstedehouder> arte_i: which program do you want to use ynder WIndows
[04:49] <unimatrix9> hdd
[04:50] <un_operateur> pianoboy3333, yw
[04:50] <arte_> n i cudnt be able to load both os
[04:50] <wheels3572> Can anyone tell me how to fix this error please
[04:50] <wheels3572> wheels@wheels-desktop:~/Desktop/qc-usb-0.6.5$ make all
[04:50] <wheels3572> awk: cannot open /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386/build/include/linux/version.h (No such file or directory)
[04:50] <thoreauputic> unimatrix9: the run   sudo chown root:cdrom /dev/hdd
[04:50] <arte_> boot magic
[04:50] <ubuntuuser> how can i install a .sh file?
[04:50] <timo901> ubuntuuser: bash xxx.package
[04:50] <un_operateur> wheels3572, have you installed the kernel-headers package?
[04:50] <janstedehouder> arte_: just install bootmagic under Windows and it will overwrite the Master boot record
[04:50] <thoreauputic> unimatrix9: and check the   groups  command to see if you ar in the cdrom group
[04:50] <wheels3572> un_operateur, no that's what im told I need but where do I get that
[04:51] <un_operateur> wheels3572, sudo aptitude install build-essential kernel-headers
[04:51] <janstedehouder> arte_i: that wil overwrite GRUB without any problem
[04:51] <arte_> will it fing ubuntu later ?
[04:51] <timo901> ubuntuuser:ohh sorry thout you sed a package file
[04:51] <ubuntuuser> timo901, what? the file name is alienarena2007.sh, how do i "install" it?
[04:51] <janstedehouder> arte_i: yes, but you might have to set that up in the bootmagic setup
[04:51] <ubuntuuser> has anyone ever heard of it even? .sh that is
[04:51] <arte_> oh thats easy .. thanx jans !
[04:51] <unimatrix9> yes i am in the group yippie?
[04:52] <timo901> make shure you have extracted it then ./alixxxxx.sh
[04:52] <un_operateur> ubuntuuser, an .sh file is a script -- it is usually run by -- sh file.sh    or  bash file.sh
[04:52] <gratuit> Whenever I put a blank disk into the cd tray, a dialog pops up asking me what I want to do, is there any way to disable this "feature"? Also when I put a cd in, thunar pops up, I would like to disable this as well. I'm using xfce
[04:52] <arte_> my frien had to reformat all disk after grub error
[04:52] <janstedehouder> arte_i: you' re welcome
[04:52] <timo901>  ubuntuuser:yes
[04:52] <thoreauputic> unimatrix9: did you run the chown command I gave you?
[04:52] <arte_> he lost mass of data
[04:52] <unimatrix9> yes
[04:52] <un_operateur> gratuit, have you checked the properties of the CD-Rom drive?
[04:52] <Saxofoner> I'm back.
[04:52] <Saxofoner> Didin't work
[04:52] <timo901>  ubuntuuser:cd to the dirctory
[04:52] <Saxofoner> *Didn't work
[04:52] <thoreauputic> unimatrix9: does cdrecord still complain?
[04:52] <janstedehouder> arte_i: that shouldn't be necessary. It just requires some extra knowledge and a disk like Knoppix
[04:52] <unimatrix9> testing right now
[04:52] <ubuntuuser> so, i have a 112 mb .sh file called alien.sh, so in terminal, would i run sudo sh alien.sh OR sudo bash alien.sh
[04:53] <unimatrix9> hold on
[04:53] <unimatrix9> :)
[04:53] <eriksays> hi all
[04:53] <gratuit> un_operateur: where would I find those?
[04:53] <arte_> jans it just became raw ?
[04:53] <daggerx> sudo ln -sf bash /bin/sh   i think
[04:53] <un_operateur> ubuntuuser, where did you download the file from?
[04:53] <arte_> wot he had to do ..
[04:53] <eriksays> a while ago i had to reverse the master/slave drives on my ubuntu machine
[04:53] <daggerx> then ./xxxoboy.sh
[04:53] <ubuntuuser> the game website
[04:53] <arte_> all partitions
[04:53] <daggerx> then finally sudo ln -sf dash /bin/sh
[04:53] <Saxofoner> I can still access files through Terminal, but Nautilus is... "The Application "nautilus" has quit unexpectedly."  I also can't open up Add/Remove.  Though several applications do work.  Such as X-Chat.  Any ideas?
[04:53] <hmg4> Anyone know a good Version Control System to use with both Windows and Linux?
[04:54] <un_operateur> gratuit, I havent used thunar in a whole -- right click on the CD-Rom drive - properties -- im guessing
[04:54] <arte_> 1 ntfs , swap and ext3 all of them
[04:54] <timo901> ubuntuuser:did it work ?
[04:54] <ubuntuuser> Please enter the installation location [/usr/games/legends] :      that comes up when i do sudo bash file.sh
[04:54] <hmg4> !cvs
[04:54] <ubotu> cvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/
[04:54] <janstedehouder> arte_i: things like that can also happen with bootmagic. When GRUB becomes corrupted it is a matter of fixing the MBR. When the whole disk is corrupt it is usually a different problem.
[04:54] <un_operateur> ubuntulog, hah -- so it is a bash file after all
[04:54] <thoreauputic> ubuntuuser: accept the defaults in the script
[04:54] <Saxofoner> Can anybody help me?  I could post some thingies if need be.
[04:55] <unimatrix9> does not seem to be an real problem because it writes
[04:55] <wheels3572> un_operateur, I get this now Building tag database... Done
[04:55] <wheels3572> "kernel-headers" is a virtual package provided by:
[04:55] <wheels3572>   kernel-headers-2.4.27-2-k7-smp kernel-headers-2.4.27-2-k7
[04:55] <wheels3572>   kernel-headers-2.4.27-2-k6 kernel-headers-2.4.27-2-686-smp
[04:55] <wheels3572>   kernel-headers-2.4.27-2-686 kernel-headers-2.4.27-2-586tsc
[04:55] <janstedehouder> arte_i: you might also want to consider Smart Boot Loader, a program on a floppy disk
[04:55] <wheels3572>   kernel-headers-2.4.27-2-386 kernel-headers-2.4.27-2 ,  Also my uname -r shows me as 2.6.17-10-386 does that make a difference?
[04:55] <Saxofoner> It's like nautilus is broken
[04:55] <thoreauputic> !paste
[04:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:55] <gili> ok i have a question/problem
[04:55] <ubuntuuser> Please enter the installation location [/usr/games/legends] :
[04:55] <ubuntuuser> /usr/games/legends
[04:55] <ubuntuuser> Preparing install directory...
[04:55] <ubuntuuser> Install directory ready
[04:55] <Saxofoner> And I can't get to my computer files w/o terminal
[04:55] <un_operateur> wheels3572, never paste in the channel directly -- always use a pastebin
[04:55] <wheels3572> sorry
[04:55] <ubuntuuser> it paused there
[04:55] <gili> I deleted the original pannel so i can creat my own
[04:55] <arte_> jans can u tell me where i cud find info about how to correct that kind of grub error
[04:55] <thoreauputic> wheels3572: ;)
[04:55] <wheels3572> ouchhhhh
[04:55] <wheels3572> splat
[04:55] <wheels3572> lol
[04:55] <gili> its all goo now but i am trying to make a systray....how do i do that...
[04:56] <un_operateur> wheels3572, do a uname -r at the terminal --
[04:56] <gili> ?
[04:56] <janstedehouder> arte_i: one moment
[04:56] <wheels3572> is it pastebin.ca
[04:56] <wheels3572> I did
[04:56] <un_operateur> wheels3572, and what does that give you?
[04:56] <arte_> jans  cud u mail me ?
[04:56] <wheels3572> i get 2.6.17-10-386
[04:56] <Saxofoner> thoreauputic: do you have any idea what I could do to install all the missing packages through the terminal?  I think many of the core packages are missing.......
[04:56] <thoreauputic> unimatrix9: so, problem solved?
[04:56] <un_operateur> wheels3572, one sec
[04:56] <thoreauputic> Saxofoner: erm - what do you mean? core packages of what?
[04:57] <unimatrix9> cant say, blanking cdrw, takes an long time
[04:57] <gili> how do i add a systray to a new panel bar?
[04:57] <unimatrix9> be back when finished
[04:57] <unimatrix9> :P
[04:57] <jbroome> cd-rw's are usually slower than regular cd-rs
[04:57] <un_operateur> wheels3572, sudo aptitude install build-essential  linux-headers-2.6.17-10-386
[04:57] <janstedehouder> arte_i: http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2005/11/how-to-repair-corrupt-mbr-and-boot.html
[04:57] <un_operateur> wheels3572, sorry, I always mix those two package names
[04:57] <arte_> oh thanx jans!
[04:58] <thoreauputic> Saxofoner: if this is an upgrade or something, try  sudo apt-get -f install
[04:58] <gili> how do i add a systray section to a new panel bar?
[04:58] <wheels3572> np lol
[04:58] <thoreauputic> gili: add "notification area"
[04:58] <janstedehouder> arte_i: I have used bootmagic for years and it was easy to use especially when you install more than two operating systems
[04:59] <Saxofoner> thoreauputic: "erm" is right... It's confusing.  See, yesterday, I was trying to update to edgy, and tried to do it by editing sources.list.  Then I ran "sudo apt-get dist-update" but it got super messed up, because about half way through, the update notifier stopped it.  So now, Nautilus is SNAFU, and several apps won't run.  I'll try the -f install thingy...
[04:59] <janelau> This probably sound a bit weird... but has anyone ever attemped to install something like MS Office on Cedega?
[04:59] <daggerx> <<<just uses grub --- its better
[04:59] <janstedehouder> janelau: yes. I did
[04:59] <un_operateur> janstedehouder, does it work alright?
[04:59] <gili> thanks thoreauputic
[04:59] <janstedehouder> janelau: up to Office 2003 without a glitch. Except Outlook and Infopath
[04:59] <thoreauputic> Saxofoner: rerun sudo aptitude dist-upgrade, run sudo apt-get -f install, run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:59] <frogzoo> janstedehouder: best bet's Crossover Office
[05:00] <arte_> jans wot if it says error 15 or error 21 like my friend had ?
[05:00] <wheels3572> ty
[05:00] <thoreauputic> Saxofoner: and keep running them until you see no errors :)
[05:00] <un_operateur> wheels3572, does it work now?
[05:00] <Saxofoner> I got errors when I just ran sudo apt-get -f install.
[05:00] <wheels3572> yes it's apt'ing :)
[05:00] <arte_> i mean grub errors
[05:00] <un_operateur> Saxofoner, pastebin those errors please
[05:00] <thoreauputic> Saxofoner: you need to rerun the commands until all is fixed
[05:00] <wheels3572> now there is one other thing I did try from the forums taht I read that apparently didn't work how do I go and look at my last commands executed?
[05:01] <Saxofoner> sure
[05:01] <daggerx> some say apt-get is fazing out, others say its replacing aptitude... which is it?
[05:01] <thoreauputic> daggerx: aptitude is better, apt-get is deprecated
[05:01] <un_operateur> daggerx, neither -- it will always be what it is -- the right tool for the job
[05:01] <Crescendo_> I think my version of Java is causing instability - but I have no idea what version of java I have, or how to get a different one.
[05:01] <janstedehouder> arte_: maybe he can check this out : http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/grub-error-guide.xml
[05:01] <daggerx> ok
[05:01] <un_operateur> thoreauputic, ohh no -- apt-get is not deprecated
[05:01] <janstedehouder> arte_i: it is for Gentoo but the errror messages are the same
[05:01] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: it is for dist-upgrades
[05:02] <arte_> i see jans thanx
[05:02] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: see debian
[05:02] <wheels3572> ok nevermind I got it
[05:02] <un_operateur> thoreauputic, you can use it to dist-upgrades -- sure
[05:02] <un_operateur> thoreauputic, i see debian indeed :)
[05:02] <Saxofoner> thoreauputic: and un_operateur:  Here's the error.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38517/
[05:02] <arte_> is it possible to fix boot using live cd  ?
[05:02] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: aptitude is just better all round
[05:02] <un_operateur> thoreauputic, there are instances where apt-get is better -- it doesnt try to resolve dependancies like aptitude does
[05:02] <mbutUbuntu> is there someone who can help me with apache
[05:03] <Saxofoner> Crescendo_: How did you insatll it?
[05:03] <janstedehouder> arte_i: yep, that is one reason to always keep Knoppix at hand. Knoppix is better than the Ubuntu live CD for that. Knoppix mounts all partititions
[05:03] <Saxofoner> *install
[05:03] <mbutUbuntu> and the configuration of htaccess and htpasswd
[05:03] <thoreauputic> Saxofoner: close whatever other install app is open
[05:03] <mbutUbuntu> ????
[05:03] <janelau> janstedehouder, lol cool, I just got sick of opeing vmware just to read some .doc files... that's great to hear!!
[05:03] <Crescendo_> Saxofoner, I don't remember.  It would have been a while back...?
[05:03] <mnoir> mbutUbuntu: yes - go to #apache
[05:03] <wheels3572> what does this do and do I need this apt-get install build-essential bin86 kernel-package libqt3-headers libqt3-mt-dev (that I installed and im a newbie here do I even need that?
[05:03] <janstedehouder> janelau: you can use OOo for that as well
[05:03] <janstedehouder> janelau: or a Word viewer under Wine
[05:03] <Saxofoner> thoreauputic: Only things open are xchat, terminal, firefox, and oh... the nautilus error window that won't close...
[05:03] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: I use aptitude for nearly every thing now
[05:04] <toshiro> #ubuntu-fr
[05:04] <un_operateur> wheels3572, they are packages you need to build source
[05:04] <arte_> i have knopix but old version
[05:04] <janstedehouder> arte_i: how old?
[05:04] <wheels3572> so installing them didn't hurt then
[05:04] <arte_> thanx for ur help see ya!
[05:04] <gili> thoreauputic: how do i change the default menu button (ubuntu logo)
[05:04] <janstedehouder> arte_i: though it doesn't really matter
[05:04] <un_operateur> thoreauputic, as do i -- but i wouldnt use aptitude within a shell script for e.g. i'd use apt-get
[05:04] <janstedehouder> arte_i take care
[05:04] <Crescendo_> How can I figure out what version of Java I'm using to run applications?
[05:05] <un_operateur> wheels3572, they definitely dont hurt no
[05:05] <mbutUbuntu> please help me with apache!!!!!
[05:05] <alper_> hi guys, can anyone send me his "beryl-settings.Profile" // I screwed my settings and cant reset them anymore- please help me :(
[05:05] <Saxofoner> thoreauputic: I killed update manager, I still get those same errors
[05:05] <janelau> janstedehouder, yea I know but sometimes Win users make weird .doc files that only Word can see properly. Sometimes only the lastest one too!!
[05:05] <mnoir> mbutUbuntu: go. to. #pache
[05:05] <janstedehouder> mbutUbuntu: maybe you need the apache channel for that. You can install it through Synaptic
[05:05] <mnoir> uuh #apache :)
[05:06] <janstedehouder> janelau: I agree, but the Word viewer should solve that issue. Unless you need to work with them.
[05:06] <thoreauputic> Saxofoner: try  sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock.bak  then rerun your commands
[05:06] <Saxofoner> sure
[05:06] <alper_> hi guys, can anyone send me his "beryl-settings.Profile" // I screwed my settings and cant reset them anymore- please help me :(
[05:06] <janstedehouder> janelau: you could try Office under Wine. It should work.
[05:06] <thoreauputic> Saxofoner: if that doesn't fix it, you can move the lock file back
[05:07] <janelau> janstedehouder, ok, I suppose cedega is just a specialised version of wine anyway?
[05:07] <un_operateur> thoreauputic, if you get an error due to a lock file, does moving the lock file help ??
[05:07] <janstedehouder> janelau: it is
[05:07] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: sometimes :) for instance firefox lock files
[05:07] <Saxofoner> thoreauputic: thanks, that made distupgrade work
[05:07] <Saxofoner> I'll move on now
[05:08] <thoreauputic> Saxofoner: do keep running the commands until the errors disappear
[05:08] <un_operateur> thoreauputic, but firefox is a non-essential process -- but apt is -- if two apt programs contend for system files, you are likely to ruin things and mess up big time
[05:09] <Saxofoner> Meh, I ran those 3 commands, no errors, but nautilus is still broken...
[05:09] <unimatrix9> the error is still there on gnome-baker, but i will ingore it, becuase it burns and erases fine....
[05:09] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: I suspect dpkg was in a weird state already
[05:09] <un_operateur> thoreauputic, the file is unlikely to be moved anyway - if a file is locked, it cant be deleted
[05:09] <unimatrix9> thnx for the help
[05:09] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: *cough* as you see, it was moved
[05:09] <Crescendo_> When I run "sudo update-alternatives --config java" - what is the sun-java5-jre directory?
[05:09] <un_operateur> thoreauputic, but it wasnt locked here, was it? :)
[05:09] <Saxofoner> thoreauputic:  and un_operateur:  The nautilus error window is sitll there, and none of the other problems are gone.....
[05:10] <wheels3572> un_operateur, do you know of a tutorial for dummies on how to build your own kernel and what stuff needs to go into it?
[05:10] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: and I suggested that he run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:10] <Pricey> wheels3572, why do you want to biuld your own kernel?
[05:10] <un_operateur> thoreauputic, the point is -- you must check if other processes have the lock file opened -
[05:10] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: which I asked him to do
[05:10] <Saxofoner> un_operateur:  That's done!  The errors are gone, but Nautilus is still fubar!
[05:11] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: but I don't want to argue about it
[05:11] <wheels3572> Pricey, well I have a Logitech Quickcam Express that im trying to get working and it's telling me to do my kernel lol
[05:11] <Saxofoner> Well, hopefully not fubar, but....
[05:11] <Pricey> wheels3572, you only need to install a package for those AFIAK
[05:11] <alper> hi guys, can anyone of you using Beryl, can send me his beryl settings? mine are screwed up and I cant reset them :( would be really nice
[05:11] <Pricey> *AFAIK
[05:11] <thoreauputic> Saxofoner: is /var/lib/dpkg/lock back in place now ?
[05:11] <Pricey> alper, sudo rm -rf ~/.beryl
[05:11] <Saxofoner> thoreauputic:  I don't know how to do that.... I think it's using the .bak
[05:11] <wheels3572> ohhhh?
[05:12] <wheels3572> Pricey, AFIAK?
[05:12] <thoreauputic> Saxofoner: no, it won't use that :)
[05:12] <Pricey> wheels3572, and if not, then just compile modules... not the entire kernel
[05:12] <Pricey> wheels3572, as far as i know
[05:12] <alper> Pricey, what does that dO?
[05:12] <Kohlgarten> hi, does anyone know how to change MTU automatically using Network-manager?
[05:12] <thoreauputic> Saxofoner: what does ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/lock  say ?
[05:12] <un_operateur> wheels3572, maybe this one does?  http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu
[05:12] <Pricey> alper, that deletes  your beryl directory in your home, deleting all settings
[05:12] <wheels3572> ok
[05:12] <Pricey> alper, then, when you restart beryl, it will install default setting for yuo
[05:12] <alper> do i need to restart my comp now?
[05:13] <Crescendo_> When I run "sudo update-alternatives --config java" - what is the sun-java5-jre directory?
[05:13] <wheels3572> ty un_operateur will try that
[05:13] <Pricey> alper, no
[05:13] <Pricey> alper, just restart beryl from the notification area
[05:13] <alper> so I simply exit and start it again?
[05:13] <Saxofoner> it says -rw-r----- 1 root root 0 blah blah blah blah blah /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[05:13] <Chinasky> hello how can i change the refresh rate of my tft from 75 to 60 hz?
[05:13] <Pricey> alper, that's the ticket :)
[05:13] <alper> hmmm
[05:13] <alper> i dont see it
[05:13] <un_operateur> Crescendo,  update-alternatives --list java
[05:13] <alper> there is only "reload blablbla"
[05:13] <Pricey> Chinasky, just change the numbers in /etc/X11/xorg.conf (make a backup)
[05:13] <thoreauputic> Saxofoner: OK that is fine then
[05:14] <alper> "Reload Window Manager"
[05:14] <Pricey> alper, reload the window manager
[05:14] <unimatrix9> Chinasky have you got nvidia drivers installed, or just normal?
[05:14] <luxu> #ubuntu-cn
[05:14] <elysium444> I was compiling wine for amd64 what does this mean: /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib/libsicuuc.a(ubidi.ao): relocation R_X86_64_32S against `a local symbol' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC
[05:14] <elysium444> /usr/lib/libsicuuc.a: could not read symbols: Bad value
[05:14] <elysium444> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[05:14] <alper> omg THANKS VERY MUCH
[05:14] <alper> Pricey,
[05:14] <Saxofoner> thoreauputic:  any other suggestions?
[05:14] <Chinasky> Pricey, let me have a look
[05:14] <Crescendo_> un_operateur, yeah, what I did before provides the same list, I have five options.
[05:14] <Chinasky> unimatrix, nvidia
[05:14] <thoreauputic> Saxofoner: have you rerun sudo dpkg --configure -a  and sudo aptitude dist-upgrade without errors ?
[05:15] <Saxofoner> thoreauputic:  YES
[05:15] <thoreauputic> Saxofoner: OK - running iut of ideas then
[05:15] <Saxofoner> meh.... Lemme reboot, and see what happens....
[05:15] <unimatrix9> chinasky have an read here and see if you can make it work for you too
[05:15] <Chinasky> without de driver i can change to 60, but after i installed only 75 appears
[05:15] <thoreauputic> Saxofoner: nautilus is still borked, right?
[05:15] <unimatrix9> http://www.bloglines.com/myblogs?mode=2
[05:15] <Nontitle> i first installed ubuntu on my computer and installed kde on top of it. then I installed the package kubuntu-desktop on top of it, and two things changed: the picture that says ubuntu has changed to kubuntu and is blue, and the sound that plays when you load kde right after the splash is different and sucks
[05:15] <elfreakz> my firefox automatically shut down while using ubuntu edgy.. why?
[05:15] <Nontitle> is there a way to get the oldpic back?
[05:15] <Saxofoner> Um.... heh heh... yes, thoreauputic
[05:15] <un_operateur> Crescendo, are you asking which is the default java after you run update-alternatives??
[05:16] <Alberto> Cuanto maricon
[05:16] <Crescendo_> I want to use whatever one of those five is the correct one for sun-java5-jre, installed from repositories
[05:16] <thoreauputic> Saxofoner: if you log out of gnome and log back in, that might help - but first try  killall nautilus
[05:16] <un_operateur> Saxofoner, have you tried reinstalling nautlius?
[05:16] <Saxofoner> un_operateur:  how?
[05:17] <Saxofoner> thoreauputic:  and un_operateur:  I'll be right back....
[05:17] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: first try killall - it may respawn OK
[05:17] <Neskato23> hi guys, ive a problem with the fonts
[05:17] <elfreakz> anybody know why my firefox auto shut down when using edgy?
[05:17] <PriceChild> Neskato23, what's the problem?
[05:17] <un_operateur> Saxofoner, sudo sh -c "aptitude remove nautilus; aptitude install nautilus"
[05:17] <gopss> unsure
[05:17] <Neskato23> ive installed lookingglass for ubuntui
[05:17] <PriceChild> elfreakz, please start from a terminal, then pastebin the error that occurs when it crashes
[05:17] <Neskato23> but when i try to start session i get this error
[05:17] <Crescendo_>           1    /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/bin/java       2    /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.0        3    /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java          4    /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.1           *+        5    /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java
[05:17] <Neskato23> Fatal server error:
[05:17] <Neskato23> could not open default font 'fixed'
[05:17] <Crescendo_> Those are the options I have.
[05:17] <unimatrix9> Neskato23 how does it look?
[05:17] <aspendora> Join #asterisk-gui
[05:18] <elfreakz> PriceChild, what should i do wit the terminal?
[05:18] <dead1ock> hello
[05:18] <mdasilva> sup
[05:18] <Crescendo_> Using anything but number 5 crashes azureus with a core dump
[05:18] <dead1ock> I'll think about it
[05:18] <mdasilva> I'll think about it
[05:18] <un_operateur> Crescendo, I'd use #3 if i were you -- the sun JVM
[05:18] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: nautilus wsa still running - worth seeing if killing it and restarting it helped
[05:18] <luxu> how to do like "dir fo windows" in the ubuntu command line
[05:18] <thoreauputic> luxu: ls
[05:18] <un_operateur> thoreauputic, I thought he said nautilus is fubared?
[05:18] <PriceChild> elfreakz, type "firefox" into it, and use it until it crashes. Hopefully an error will appear in the terminal
[05:19] <Crescendo_> un_operateur, how can I remove the non-standard ones?
[05:19] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: as in not working, yes - but remember that gnome draws the desktop with nautilus
[05:19] <un_operateur> Crescendo, you usually uninstall the packages relating to those files
[05:19] <elfreakz> PriceChild, i type firefox in terminal, it open up my firefox browser
[05:19] <Crescendo_> un_operateur, I don't know what packages those would be
[05:20] <luxu> I use "ls" but display "Desktop Example",not I want.
[05:20] <un_operateur> Crescendo, you can use this command -- dpkg --search /path/to/filename  to find out which package houses that file
[05:20] <Neskato23> i dont know where should be that fixed font
[05:20] <Crescendo_> un_operateur, alright, thanks
[05:20] <thoreauputic> luxu: run ls in the directory you want to see
[05:20] <Saxofoner> un_operateur: I'M Baaaaccccck!   What was that you were saying about the reinstalling nautilus?
[05:20] <thoreauputic> luxu: or ls -al to see everything
[05:20] <thoreauputic> in that dir
[05:20] <luxu> I try it .thank you
[05:21] <un_operateur> Saxofoner, you'll need to get to the terminal and do -- sudo sh -c "aptitude remove nautilus; aptitude install nautilus"
[05:21] <thoreauputic> Saxofoner: nautilus still borked?
[05:21] <whyameye> I need to kill a few processes on sleep then restart them on resume. What's the best way to do this?
[05:21] <Saxofoner> YEP,
[05:21] <Crescendo_> What the crap is gij?
[05:21] <elfreakz> PriceChild, ???
[05:21] <Saxofoner> It sucks
[05:21] <Neskato23> ive reinstall all the xfonts packages, but nothing
[05:21] <alper> hey guys, how can i change the skydom of Beryl with a random wallpaper?
[05:21] <raxip> hi
[05:21] <un_operateur> !language | Crescendo
[05:21] <ubotu> Crescendo: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:21] <alper> got it nvm
[05:21] <Crescendo_> ...
[05:21] <ctfor1> luxu: ls can also be given a directory as an argument, like ls /home/ctford
[05:21] <PriceChild> elfreakz, now reproduce the crash however you did it earlier..
[05:21] <Crescendo_> You're kidding me?
[05:21] <un_operateur> Crescendo, Its the JVM that comes with the GNU GCJ compiler
[05:21] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: if nautilus is boked he needs to purge it before reinstalling
[05:21] <PriceChild> elfreakz, then you should get some output in the terminal which will help us
[05:21] <berbear_> what kind of things are GNOME and KDE? Is Beryl considered a window manager?
[05:21] <elfreakz> PriceChild, then?
[05:22] <raxip> that's a secret
[05:22] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: otherwise the config won't change
[05:22] <luxu> thank you .I succeed.
[05:22] <un_operateur> thoreauputic, purging it will get him to lose all his desktop settings -- i wouldnt do it
[05:22] <Neskato23> so, what can I do??
[05:22] <PriceChild> elfreakz, then you give us that output
[05:22] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: not so - thse are in his $HOME and remain untouched
[05:22] <PriceChild> elfreakz, firefox could be crashing for any number of reasons... this is a way of finding out why
[05:22] <Crescendo_> On the last one, un_operateur - the one that works - I get "dpkg: /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java not found."
[05:23] <jtrucks> if I update /etc/sources.list, will apt-get, apt-cache and similar commands automatically read the new sources and rebuild the cache?
[05:23] <Saxofoner> un_operateur:  thoreauputic: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38519/
[05:23] <PriceChild> jtrucks, no, first do "sudo apt-get update"
[05:23] <Neskato23> what you guys think I should do to "repair" this?
[05:23] <thoreauputic> jtrucks: run sudo apt-get update
[05:23] <un_operateur> thoreauputic, errm, i'm not sure about nautilus as i dont use it -- but if config files are placed in $HOME they'll be purged too
[05:23] <jtrucks> PriceChild: thanks!
[05:23] <deep`> hit here.
[05:23] <jtrucks> thoreauputic: thanks!
[05:23] <deep`> hi*
[05:24] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: that is not my experience
[05:24] <dint> can I disable gateway in network perference?
[05:24] <wkerzend> does anyone know a good hardware support channel (asus mainboard)? thanks
[05:24] <deep`> I'm thinking of buying the new samsung x830 mobile phone, anyway of getting it to work in ubuntu?
[05:24] <Saxofoner> un_operateur:  do those errors (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38519/) make sense to you?
[05:24] <berbear_> where do i find gconf-editor in my menu
[05:24] <Saxofoner> ubuntu-desktop is BROKEN, it says...
[05:24] <un_operateur> Saxofoner, just to make sure we are on the same page -- you must have killed all desktop applications and be at the terminal
[05:24] <simonbp> whyameye: you need to put stop and start scripts in /etc/acpi/suspend.d/ and /etc/acpi/resume.d/. You can look at the other scripts in those folders for ideas. Scripts are executed in order of lowest to highest number.
[05:25] <elysium444> I am installing cedega, whre do i find :  x-window-system-dev???
[05:25] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: personal configs must not be changed, or on a multi user system it would wreak havoc with all users
[05:25] <Saxofoner> un_operateur:  how to kill all desktop apps and still be in xchat?
[05:25] <deep`> elysium444, sudo apt-cache search x-window-system-dev ?
[05:25] <un_operateur> Saxofoner, CTRL+ALT+F1 -- login there -- and run  -- sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop  -- then run this -- sudo sh -c "aptitude remove nautilus ubuntu-desktop; aptitude install nautilus"
[05:25] <elysium444> I couldnt find it
[05:25] <Saxofoner> meh... okay
[05:26] <whyameye> simonbp: thanks!
[05:26] <Chinasky> Pricey, can you tell me where in the xorg.conf do i have to put the refresh rate of my tft?
[05:26] <elysium444> deep, thats what i am doing i cant find it
[05:26] <nalioth> anyone know about wireless sniffers on ubuntu?
[05:26] <un_operateur> Saxofoner, you cant -- you'll need to skip xchat for a few minutes
[05:26] <elysium444> I am using ubuntu 10.6
[05:26] <elysium444> 6.10
[05:26] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: removing ubuntu-desktop is totally pointless
[05:26] <Lam_> instead of #!/bin/bash, could i use #!/usr/bin/screen to write a screen script?
[05:27] <un_operateur> thoreauputic, ubuntu-desktop depends on nautilus -- its the only reason it is included in the command
[05:27] <zzzerotime> hi, does anyone know the best mp3 tag editor out?
[05:27] <Nevermore-Lap> hi, i wish to set gaim 2.0beta3 to send message with ctrl-enter
[05:27] <elfreakz> PriceChild, i got the error.. wait will paste it to u
[05:27] <Nevermore-Lap> how do i do
[05:27] <simonbp> nalioth: most likely, yes.
[05:27] <PriceChild> !paste | elfreakz
[05:27] <ubotu> elfreakz: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:27] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: as I said, it is totally pointless - but evidently you are far wiser than I so I'll leave you to it :)
[05:28] <timo901> eney were i can find some mouse pionters
[05:28] <elfreakz> PriceChild, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38520/
[05:28] <simonbp> nalioth: kismet usually does what I need.
[05:28] <un_operateur> thoreauputic, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38519/  :)
[05:28] <Neskato23> a want to run a LookingGlass session but it crashes while starting with a Fatal Error: can't find default fixed  font
[05:28] <Neskato23> what can  I do??
[05:28] <zzzerotime> is there any good tag editor for ubuntu?
[05:28] <zzzerotime> please, does someone know?
[05:28] <elfreakz> PriceChild, got it?
[05:28] <PriceChild> elfreakz, yeah, but I'm not sure what's wrong
[05:28] <simonbp> zzzerotime: ID3 tags? -> easytag
[05:29] <luxu> how to go into directory like" cd directory of windows" in the ubuntu command line
[05:29] <un_operateur> luxu, cd or chdir
[05:29] <zzzerotime> the thing is that it does not search freedb properly simonbp
[05:29] <PriceChild> elfreakz, I would suggest googling line 21 onwards...
[05:29] <PriceChild> elfreakz, I'm guessing a bug with one of your plugins
[05:29] <tristan_> hey ubuntu folks
[05:29] <Chinasky> where in the xorg.conf do i have to write the refresh rate of my tft so i can have it in 60hz??
[05:29] <Neskato23> noone knows anything about this error --> "could not open default font 'fixed'" ??
[05:29] <elfreakz> PriceChild, alright
[05:30] <simonbp> zzzerotime: Yeah, I suppose good is relative :) It's the best I've found for linux.
[05:30] <un_operateur> Chinasky, unless your hardware supports those rates, you musnt do it
[05:30] <tristan_> I just installed ubuntu 6.10 - and I want to know the fastest route to support my IEEE 1394 firewire card
[05:30] <tristan_> is there a package I can download ? or must I recompile the kernel ?
[05:30] <darkroast> does nautilus support dual pane view?
[05:30] <simonbp> zzzerotime: mediamonkey is my all-time favorite. It's windows only though.
[05:30] <un_operateur> Chinasky, if you run this command -- you'll find out where it is -- locate xorg.conf
[05:30] <biotrox> which repositories can i get webmin???
[05:30] <patrik> sorry for the noob question but I have tried to find an answer myself. downloaded a app and read the readme. it says after unpacking I should run "make menuconfig" but it can't find the command. googled and founfd something about libncurses but from I saw I should already have that
[05:31] <biotrox> !webmin
[05:31] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[05:31] <whyameye> patrik: have you installed build-essential? sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:31] <dint> !webmin
[05:31] <simonbp> patrik: It would probably be helpful for you to install build-essential
[05:31] <un_operateur> patrik, you probably need to run this first -- sudo aptitude install build-essential
[05:31] <dint> !info webmin
[05:31] <ubotu> Package webmin does not exist in any distro I know
[05:32] <trapdoor> anyone here who could help me setting up ubuntu on a macbook?
[05:32] <patrik> ah okay. thank you very much guys. I will install it right away.
[05:32] <darkroast> does nautilus support dual pane view?
[05:32] <Lam_> how do i get ubuntu server to load a script upon booting?
[05:33] <un_operateur> darkroast, you probably need the gnome-commander for that
[05:33] <patrik> crontab?
[05:33] <whyameye> trapdoor: I've done that and there are excellent instructions here: http://bin-false.org/?p=17
[05:33] <darkroast> ah, thanks
[05:33] <patrik> I mean can't you put it in crontab :)
[05:33] <zzzerotime> simonbp, I am too lazy to write every mp3 that comes unnamed, I use ultratag editor in windows, but I dont use windows anymore, and I am sure there's a way to do that under linux
[05:33] <Neskato23> oh cmon please, why are you guys ignoring me??
[05:33] <frogzoo_> darkroast: not afaik, and it's a pain
[05:33] <Chinasky> un_operatour, i know where is xorg.conf is but after i have installed the nvidia driver i can only use 75 hz, and before i could change it to 60, but not know with the driver installed, thanks
[05:33] <trapdoor> <whyameye: i just followed them, but i only get a black screen when booting ubuntu, i think lilo is screwed up... but i don't know what i did wrong
[05:33] <Saxofoner> so, un_operateur, guess what?   I did that, and nautilus is still "borked"
[05:33] <luxu> I use the "ls" and display "desktop" . I use "cd desktop"  but display  " bash: cd: desktop no such file or directory"
[05:33] <elysium444> I am using ubuntu 6.10 amd64 where do i find  x-window-system-dev???
[05:34] <patrik> Neskato23: what is your question?
[05:34] <elysium444> !x-window-system-dev
[05:34] <shooters> Hi, I've downloaded a movie collection from bittorrent, and when I can't play the files... I've install w32codecs with vlc, totem and mplayer + I've automatix the DVD-AUD codecs and the multimedia codecs, but the video file still doesn't want to play, any idea how to fix?
[05:34] <un_operateur> Saxofoner, what does borked mean? how is nautilus misbehaving? can you show us a screenshot of the problem? etc
[05:34] <Neskato23> ive installed lookinglass packages for ubuntu but i cant start xsession because it crashes with these errors::
[05:34] <whyameye> trapdoor: explain exactly what you see. Does the EFI menu come up? You select linux. Then what do you see.
[05:34] <Neskato23> Could not init font path element /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc, removing from list!
[05:34] <Neskato23> (and so on)
[05:34] <Neskato23> and
[05:34] <Neskato23> Fatal server error:
[05:34] <Neskato23> could not open default font 'fixed'
[05:34] <Neskato23> this one...
[05:34] <luxu> I want to goin the directory of desktop.
[05:34] <jtrucks> is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MetaPackages?highlight=%28metapackage%29 all the metapackages? Is there a server metapackage?
[05:35] <patrik> ah opkay. sry can't help you with that one Neskato23
[05:35] <Neskato23> but i dont know where to find the fixed font
[05:35] <Neskato23> no matter, thx anyway
[05:35] <Saxofoner> un_operateur:  Sure, I'll post a screenshot.  Borked was just the word that thoreauputic used in place of another 4 + 2 letter word.
[05:35] <trapdoor> whyameye: i see the efi screen, i choose linux, press enter, and then... just a black screen
[05:35] <zzzerotime> try to install mplayer using automatix
[05:35] <zzzerotime> find automatix in google,
[05:35] <nalioth> simonbp: there a simple howto for kismet around?
[05:36] <un_operateur> Saxofoner, that'll help
[05:36] <zzzerotime> Neskato23,
[05:36] <Neskato23> tellme
[05:36] <zzzerotime> get automatix, then install from there mplayer, codecs and so on
[05:36] <whyameye> trapdoor: do you make sure MBR/GPT maps are in sync?
[05:36] <mnoir> !automatix
[05:36] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:36] <trapdoor> whyameye: i did several times
[05:37] <un_operateur> zzzerotime, we dont advocate automatix in here -- its not a good thing to use
[05:37] <Saxofoner> http://www.freewebs.com/saxofoner91/Screenshot.png un_operateur
[05:37] <zzzerotime> it works though
[05:37] <zzzerotime> why not use it?
[05:37] <simonbp> nalioth: sudo aptitude install kismet. Then read 'man kismet.conf' for instructions on telling it how to use your wireless card. If your card has linux drivers that support promiscuous mode, it should be quite easy to set up. Just a couple of modified lines in kismet.conf.
[05:37] <Saxofoner> My desktop bg, and icons are gone, the panels work... I can't open my computer
[05:37] <un_operateur> zzzerotime, read up there ^^^
[05:37] <Saxofoner> *the file browser, "my computer"
[05:37] <wheels3572> ok im back again.  I cant get ekiga to work with my Webcam.  It's said to come here for help
[05:38] <zzzerotime> I have read it up, and I still insist
[05:38] <zzzerotime> it works
[05:38] <elysium444> where to find: x-window-system-dev?
[05:38] <whyameye> trapdoor: I'm fishing here...could it be an error in /etc/lilo.conf? Or would we still see LILO printed on the screen before the black screen?
[05:38] <mnoir> Saxofoner: as I recall, you were doing a major upgrade - is that correct?
[05:38] <Saxofoner> thoreauputic: hey, guess what?  We still haven't solved the problem!  http://www.freewebs.com/saxofoner91/Screenshot.png
[05:38] <elysium444> !x-window-system
[05:38] <ubotu> x-window-system: transitional package for Debian etch. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu6.2 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 44 kB
[05:38] <Rprp> HI :x i installed wine, and installed a windows program, but if i do 'wine winscp' its opening, but its not in my 'menu' ? how can i fix that?
[05:38] <un_operateur> zzzerotime, it works until your system has a problem -- and then its a nightmare troubleshooting -- and thats why we dont recommend it
[05:38] <ivanoats> oh boy... i installed KNetworkManager and lost my DCHP connection... then I did sudo remove KNetworkManager and still no connection.
[05:38] <thoreauputic> Saxofoner: looking
[05:38] <Saxofoner> mnoir:  I tried to, to edgy, but it got stopped, and now everthings messed up
[05:39] <zzzerotime> well, that usually happens with most compilations by hand
[05:39] <simonbp> nalioth: actually, read  'less /usr/share/doc/kismet/README.gz'
[05:39] <mnoir> sax - may i pm you?
[05:39] <trapdoor> whyameye: i don't know, i checked my lilo.conf several times, i wrote it exactly as described on bin-false.org
[05:39] <Saxofoner> sure, but lemme reg my nick first
[05:39] <Saxofoner> go ahead
[05:39] <mnoir> k :)
[05:39] <un_operateur> zzzerotime, there is no compilation with automatix, what are you talking about?
[05:39] <thoreauputic> Saxofoner: what happens if you create a test user and log in as that user?
[05:39] <Saxofoner> I'll try that
[05:39] <alper> how can I make screenshots with Beryl?
[05:39] <Rprp> HI :x i installed wine, and installed a windows program, but if i do 'wine winscp' its opening, but its not in my 'menu' ? how can i fix that?
[05:39] <zzzerotime> did you read what I said?
[05:40] <un_operateur> Saxofoner, you could try purging the ~/.nautilus directory
[05:40] <thoreauputic> Saxofoner: there might be a personal config that's causing trouble
[05:40] <zzzerotime> I said that also happens with most compilations by hand,
[05:40] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: or just moving it ( better)
[05:40] <shooters> zzzerotime: installed mplayer through automatix, but that file still doesn't want to play... is there any way to see the codec required to play (something like g-spot)?
[05:40] <CraZyLeGs> I installed samb, shared a folder, and it's visible from a windows machine
[05:40] <zzzerotime> well, I it does not, then I would check what codec is it using
[05:41] <CraZyLeGs> how ever when I want to access it, it asks for a user/password
[05:41] <CraZyLeGs> I don't know what to put in
[05:41] <nalioth> simonbp: thanks
[05:41] <minerale> how do I turn off ipv6 ?
[05:41] <un_operateur> thoreauputic, or moving it yea :)
[05:41] <CraZyLeGs> I've put user/pass that exists in ubuntu
[05:41] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: less drastic :)
[05:41] <CraZyLeGs> doesn't connect
[05:41] <zzzerotime> shooters, I dont know any program under linux, guess cant help you more on that
[05:41] <alper> how can I make screenshots with Beryl?
[05:41] <unimatrix9> Chinasky, did you read the url ?
[05:41] <Rprp> HI :x i installed wine, and installed a windows program, but if i do 'wine winscp' its opening, but its not in my 'menu' ? how can i fix that?
[05:41] <CraZyLeGs> also modified smb.conf to allow guest ok
[05:42] <CraZyLeGs> as user nobody
[05:42] <CraZyLeGs> but it still asks for user/pass
[05:42] <jasz> hello all
[05:42] <ExM3th1x> hi together
[05:42] <CraZyLeGs> anyone has a clue ?
[05:42] <ExM3th1x> i have a Netgear WG111v2 Usb 2.0 Wlan Stick..
[05:42] <ExM3th1x> its very bad caus i am not sure wich chipset it has
[05:42] <ExM3th1x> http://prism54.org/punbb/viewtopic.php?pid=6453
[05:42] <CraZyLeGs> the other machine is a winbloz xp sp 2
[05:42] <chinasky> no, sorry, can you put it again? thanks!!
[05:42] <ExM3th1x> does anybody know how to find that out?
[05:42] <zzzerotime> un_operateur, sorry to recommend automatix, for me it worked very good, but to be honest, ubuntu does not really need it,
[05:42] <un_operateur> zzzerotime, the reason we dont advocate automatix is because the number of problems arising from the use of it is high -- and it's better to avoid it if is an unstable application -- prevention is better than cure and all that..
[05:43] <jasz> how do i play m4a files with ubuntu's Rhythmbox?
[05:43] <saxofoner> mnoir:  thoreauputic un_operateur hello?  I'm on another user, it still's fubar
[05:43] <un_operateur> zzzerotime, exactly what we say too -- you can have a perfect setup without automatix
[05:43] <zzzerotime> un_operateur, ok I get the idea
[05:43] <thoreauputic> saxofoner: :(
[05:43] <Rprp> HI :x i installed wine, and installed a windows program, but if i do 'wine winscp' its opening, but its not in my 'menu' ? how can i fix that?
[05:43] <PriceChild> jasz, are these bought from itunes' music store?
[05:43] <thoreauputic> saxofoner: new user?
[05:43] <shooters> zzzerotime: is there a way to force a codec to be used under vlc... ?
[05:43] <saxofoner> different one, I'll make another
[05:44] <timo901> any way to recodt radio using kafine platyer
[05:44] <saxofoner> how do you log out w/ the terminal?  is it just "log out"
[05:44] <jasz> PriceChild: no, no DRM ...  (i can play them with mplayer)
[05:44] <zzzerotime> vlc has its own codecs
[05:44] <thoreauputic> saxin: new - to make sure it's a fresh config
[05:44] <zzzerotime> try installing fddshow
[05:44] <PriceChild> !mpe | jasz
[05:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mpe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:44] <PriceChild> !mp3 | jasz
[05:44] <ubotu> jasz: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:44] <whyameye> trapdoor: i guess I'd boot into a LiveCD and try something like "lilo -b /dev/sda3"
[05:44] <un_operateur> zzzerotime, you could try thoreauputic's suggestiong -- sudo sh -c "aptitude purge nautilus ubuntu-desktop; aptitude install nautilus"
[05:44] <thoreauputic> umm not saxin, saxofoner
[05:44] <timo901> 5 - 1Xtra BBC
[05:44] <timo901> Mime:
[05:44] <timo901> Audio:
[05:44] <timo901> MPEG audio layer 2 (lib: MAD) 160kb/s
[05:44] <timo901> 
[05:44] <PriceChild> jasz, personally I prefer the xine route documented there
[05:44] <PriceChild> !paste | tim__b
[05:44] <ubotu> tim__b: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:44] <wheels3572> un_operateur, Can you look at this and maybe give me an idea as to what is going on please http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38521/
[05:44] <un_operateur> suggestion*
[05:44] <PriceChild> timo901, ^
[05:44] <zzzerotime> un_operateur, ?
[05:45] <timo901> ok
[05:45] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: in that case don't forget to reinstall ubuntu-desktop :)
[05:45] <trapdoor> whyameye: i will, thanks for your help so far, are you sure it has to be /dev/sda3 and not /dev/sda
[05:45] <timo901> good sugestion;)
[05:45] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: and aptitude takes care of uninstalling -desktop anyway
[05:45] <CraZyLeGs> no one into samba ?
[05:45] <winand> how do you make a regex in python that matches any string without capital letters?
[05:45] <un_operateur> thoreauputic, same same
[05:46] <minerale> ifconfig shows a inet6 address -- some applictions try to use it by default and give me error messages - how does one disable it?
[05:46] <zzzerotime> I have a question, has anyone had problems with filesharing between xp pro and ubuntu 6.10?
[05:46] <PriceChild> CraZyLeGs, what's your question?
[05:46] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: not quite, unless you tell it to reinstall both
[05:46] <whyameye> trapdoor: I'm going to remote into the MacBook (it's not physically here) and see how things are set for me. At the website you did the install from, have you looked at the comments? Some people have had the same problem you have and there are some not-overly-convincing attempts at solutions but worth a look.
[05:46] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: ubuntu-desktop being a metapackage
[05:46] <unimatrix9> diner!
[05:46] <unimatrix9> bye bye everyone!
[05:46] <un_operateur> thoreauputic, its like when you install nautilus-- it depends on ubuntu-desktop -- so its going to ask you if it's ok to go ahead installing it
[05:46] <unimatrix9> :P
[05:47] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: other way round - ubuntu-desktop depends on nautilus
[05:47] <CraZyLeGs> PriceChild: I installed samba, and it's visible from a windows machine, I shared a folder in my home dir, how ever when I want to access it, it asks for a user/password, I don't know what to put in, I put user/pass that exists in ubuntu and doesn't connect
[05:47] <shooters> zzzerotime: ffdshow you probably mean, where do I get it?
[05:48] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: so actually just installing ubuntu-desktop wou;d pull in nautilus
[05:48] <un_operateur> thoreauputic, well, ok, so its not necessary to reinstall it, is it? :)
[05:48] <CraZyLeGs> PriceChild: also modified smb.conf to allow guest ok as user nobody, but it still asks for a user/pass, any clue ?
[05:48] <whyameye> trapdoor: my /etc/lilo.conf looks *exactly* like the one shown on bin-false.org with /dev/sda3
[05:48] <thoreauputic> umm - for upgrades it is advisable - but it isn't crucial in the short term
[05:49] <trapdoor> whyameye: ok, and you created 2 new partitions, /dev/sda3 as the / partition and /dev/sda4 as swap?
[05:49] <un_operateur> thoreauputic, it all works -- installing it or not :)
[05:49] <jasz> PriceChild: thanks
[05:50] <jasz> i think i installed the wrong version of xchat...
[05:50] <jasz> :(
[05:50] <jasz> brb
[05:50] <PriceChild> CraZyLeGs, you may like to read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/configuring-samba.html
[05:50] <whyameye> trapdoor: yes. I just confirmed the partitions in /etc/fstab. I did sda3 as reiserfs, but I don't think that should matter.
[05:50] <markoutthere> Hey guys I need help installing s3 graphics twister driver
[05:50] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: just pointing out that depends != rdepends
[05:50] <markoutthere> New to Linux and woud appreciate any help
[05:51] <trapdoor> whyameye: ok, i'll look it up
[05:51] <mae> anyone have this problem in edgy where on fresh install xorg (with vesa) on xorg launch i get no signal to monitor (it goes into powersave mode) -- when i hit ctrl-alt-backspace it pops up again
[05:51] <un_operateur> thoreauputic, yes, i know -- I was saying (as you were saying) ubuntu-desktop isnt all that necessary
[05:51] <PriceChild> markoutthere, please pastebin the ouput of "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[05:51] <chaks> hi all
[05:52] <chaks> anybody know whats the package name for gdk-x11-2.0 in ubuntu?
[05:52] <markoutthere> K 1 sec
[05:52] <tiede> Hi everyone. I am on KDE. And I want the Logo button on my Computer to bring up the KDE menu. I have to set xmodmap -e 'Keycode 115=Menu' every time I start the computer. This is getting annoying... How do I make the PC do that itself?
[05:52] <PriceChild> markoutthere, i've a sneaking suspicion that its installed by default but we'll see...
[05:52] <Ropechoborra> How do i extract a .tar.gz ?
[05:53] <alper> how can I make beryl to let my minimized Xchat "bump" with a sound when someone highlights me? I had it working, but then resetted the settings :( hope someone can help me
[05:53] <wheels3572> Can anyone tell me if there is another Video software out there that's better then Ekiga?
[05:53] <PriceChild> Ropechoborra, tar -xzf <<filename>>
[05:53] <Ropechoborra> PriceChild Thanks!
[05:53] <PriceChild> alper, probs best to ask in #ubuntu-xgl or #beryl
[05:53] <un_operateur> wheels3572, no idea mate -- all i can think of it try reinstalling ekiga
[05:53] <un_operateur> is*
[05:54] <wheels3572> un_operateur, according to my pastebin didn't I do everything correctly?
[05:54] <alper> thanks PriceChild
[05:54] <un_operateur> wheels3572, well, i havent ever used ekiga -- but maybe reinstalling helps
[05:55] <un_operateur> wheels3572, do you not have any sound playback at all on your desktop -- or is that problem exclusive to ekiga?
[05:55] <wheels3572> Oh ok.  Do you know if V4L or V4L2 is supported here in Ubuntu Kernel 2.6.17?
[05:55] <tiede> is there a better way to change the Win_Logo key besides xmodmap -e 'Keycode 115=Menu' so I can bring up the KDE menu without having to type that everytime I login?
[05:55] <POVaddct> dcordes: hi, this is rausb0
[05:55] <PriceChild> wheels3572, it is i think...
[05:55] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: not to harp on it, but in Linux uninstalling and reinstalling really changes nothing unless the config is purged ( you just end up with the same app and config on reinstall)
[05:55] <markoutthere> I have the output pricechild, how do you want me to send that to you, how do I "pastebin" ? sorry for silly questions
[05:56] <PriceChild> !paste | markoutthere
[05:56] <ubotu> markoutthere: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:56] <dgm> tiede, you could put that command in a startup script...
[05:56] <wheels3572> PriceChild, ok ty.  Just having a heck of a time getting my webcam to work and according to my dmesg it's set up and ready to roll lol
[05:56] <dgm> .xsession or something like that
[05:56] <dgm> googe it
[05:56] <tiede> I tried putting it in ~/.kde/env/winkey.sh but it does not work...
[05:56] <un_operateur> wheels3572, the only one that looks to be supported is 2.0.3-0 (I dunno how that pertains to VL and VL2, etc)
[05:56] <PriceChild> wheels3572, i have a similar webcam and have given up on it for a while
[05:57] <tiede> is there a reason why, dgm? I found that on a wiki...
[05:57] <un_operateur> thoreauputic, reinstalling might help if post-installs scripts modify the behaviour of the package/program/application
[05:57] <dgm> tiede: never heard of that file location
[05:57] <wheels3572> PriceChild, ahhhh so your in same boat as me ok lol.  damn things lol.
[05:58] <un_operateur> wheels3572, which ekiga package are you trying out? the one from the repos? or downloaded direct?
[05:58] <wheels3572> un_operateur, so your saying the ONLY kernel supported for what V4L or V4L2 is 2-0?
[05:58] <wheels3572> the one that came with Ubuntu
[05:58] <tiede> Me neither. I had to create it, dgm. I guess I'll just have to put it in my .Xsession
[05:58] <patrik> anyone got a sources.list to give me for testing resp..?
[05:58] <BlackHawk> hi
[05:58] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: how is that going to happen when the system respects the admin's configs? If the post install was wromg, it would spit out an error the first time wouldn't it?
[05:58] <wheels3572> It was part of the Ubuntu package when I installed Ubuntu
[05:59] <dgm> note, .Xsession may need some other things, like your window manager, if it's not there already
[05:59] <Triplemeh> how do I create a link to a file?
[05:59] <mnoir> Triplemeh: man ln
[05:59] <markoutthere> Okay here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38523/
[05:59] <Triplemeh> thanks
[05:59] <un_operateur> thoreauputic, its hard to say -- it just depends on what the post-install script does -- what it does is down to the packager and authors of the package
[05:59] <mnoir> read and understand
[05:59] <tiede> on #kubuntu, they told me to just put an ampersand after the command, dgm...
[06:00] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: Ok i bow to your confidence and evident knowledge ;) I shall leave you to sort out the world's problems :)
[06:00] <dgm> try it, be ready to remove it from a text terminal if it sdoesn't work. :)
[06:00] <un_operateur> thoreauputic, you could write your own post-install script that writes out a config file depending on varaible such as time, files, locations -- and in that case, reinstalling would almost definitely change settings
[06:02] <un_operateur> thoreauputic, I'm not asserting i'm right, i could be wrong in the case of ekiga, reinstalling might not change a darn thing -- I was only justifying why i thought reinstalling might help
[06:02] <tiede> oups, got disconnected. Did you say something dgm?
[06:03] <johnjohn_> anyone here
[06:03] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: in 3 years of using Debian and Ubuntu I have never seen a straight reinstall make a difference, but I have seen a --purge and reinstall fix things.
[06:03] <timo901> how do i chnage xmms skins to use the one i have just downloaded ,please
[06:04] <TheSilentWarrior> hi guys
[06:04] <TheSilentWarrior> is this the place to get help?
[06:04] <Rookie_> 888 users, say hi to TheSilentWarrior
[06:04] <d3413r> yep
[06:04] <d3413r> are u german?
[06:04] <TheSilentWarrior> nope
[06:04] <d3413r> ^^
[06:04] <TheSilentWarrior> Portuguese
[06:04] <d3413r> don't care
[06:04] <thoreauputic> !hi
[06:04] <TheSilentWarrior> xD
[06:04] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[06:04] <d3413r> !hi
[06:05] <CraZyLeGs> PriceChild: thanks, smbpasswd -a was needed
[06:05] <d3413r> i am using kubuntu but that shouldn't be a problem
[06:05] <d3413r> :-)
[06:05] <tds5016> where can I get gmake?
[06:05] <d3413r> so TheSilentWarrior
[06:05] <d3413r> !gmake
[06:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gmake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:05] <timo901> whats the xmms dirctory
[06:05] <d3413r> hmm wait
[06:05] <timo901> usr/local ?
[06:05] <johnjohn_> i have a problem  when i go to any site firefox closes automaticly and not minimized
[06:05] <d3413r> what about sudo apt-get install gmake
[06:05] <d3413r> @ tds5016
[06:05] <d3413r> ?
[06:05] <tds5016> ubotu, seems to have summed that up...
[06:05] <thoreauputic> timo901: ~/.xmms/
[06:05] <PriceChild> markoutthere, found it
[06:05] <Naik0> Hello, can i install ubuntu edgy on a 2,5 gig hdd?
[06:05] <tds5016> d3413r, it's not in there.
[06:05] <nolimitsoya> timo901, 'whereis xmms' should help
[06:05] <PriceChild> Naik0, yes
[06:06] <thoreauputic> timo901: put them in Skins , IIRC
[06:06] <tds5016> d3413r, gmake isn't in the reps.
[06:06] <d3413r> tds what repos
[06:06] <d3413r> have you inside your sources.list
[06:06] <CraZyLeGs> I have ubuntu installed with win, the win partitions are mounted
[06:06] <thoreauputic> timo901: .xmms is a hidden dir in your home directory
[06:06] <CraZyLeGs> but I can't write in them
[06:06] <PriceChild> markoutthere, right you don't have it installed.... so lets sort it out :)
[06:07] <timo901> thats were the skins also go write ?
[06:07] <tds5016> d3413r, I'm in 6.06
[06:07] <timo901> right *
[06:07] <george_looney> hello all
[06:07] <nalioth> anyone have any idea how to get kismet running on a G3 iBook with standard airport ?
[06:07] <biotro1> !radius
[06:07] <d3413r> hmm tds
[06:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about radius - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:07] <d3413r> 6.06
[06:07] <d3413r> i am usin 6.10
[06:07] <CraZyLeGs> how can I copy something to the mounted win partition for example ?
[06:07] <biotro1> !RADIUS
[06:07] <george_looney> I am having a problem with ClamAV
[06:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about RADIUS - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:07] <thoreauputic> timo901: yes - you don't need to extract individual skins
[06:07] <markoutthere> PriceChild I would love to. Where do I start?
[06:07] <george_looney> ..on Dapper Drake
[06:07] <biotro1> Radius server in ubuntu using...?
[06:07] <thoreauputic> timo901: have a look in ~/.xmms
[06:08] <berbear_> anyone got sony vaio motioneye webcam to work??
[06:08] <tds5016> d3413r, do you know of any repos for gmake on 6.06?
[06:08] <timo901> so i can just put the whole file there
[06:08] <PriceChild> markoutthere, I "think" that the savage driver is enabled by default on your system... just not enabled
[06:08] <d3413r> wait
[06:08] <george_looney> ClamAV says the Enginge is outdated
[06:08] <d3413r> are you able to compile something
[06:08] <d3413r> ?
[06:08] <d3413r> @ tds5016
[06:08] <thoreauputic> timo901: yes, if it's only one skin
[06:08] <d3413r> tds5016 wait a little
[06:08] <biotrox> hello.. radius in ubuntu using....?
[06:08] <thoreauputic> timo901: I think the Skins dir is "capital S"
[06:08] <markoutthere> PriceChild where do I enable it that same file?
[06:09] <george_looney> I did do an upgrade
[06:09] <tds5016> d3413r, I'm having problems compiling a program, and I think gmake might fix it.
[06:09] <timo901> i have done it than you, its wired i done this before but only with the terminal
[06:09] <george_looney> and yet I get this error
[06:09] <PriceChild> markoutthere, "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" then change line 104 (the graphics driver) to "savage" instead of "vesa"
[06:09] <d3413r> tds5016
[06:09] <d3413r> wait a moment
[06:09] <PriceChild> markoutthere, i NEED to prepare you on how to rescue yourself if this doesn't work though
[06:09] <tds5016> d3413r, okay.
[06:10] <biotrox> !server radius
[06:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about server radius - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:10] <markoutthere> PriceChild thanks and will that give me my full resolution back then?
[06:10] <biotrox> !radius server
[06:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about radius server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:10] <PriceChild> markoutthere, before you do anything... "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup"
[06:10] <thoreauputic> timo901: after putting the tarball in Skins, you might need to restart xmms ( can't remember but I think so)
[06:10] <PriceChild> then you make the change (while editing, ctrl+x will exit)
[06:10] <TheSilentWarrior> back
[06:10] <PriceChild> you then restart X with ctrl+alt+backspace
[06:10] <PriceChild> markoutthere, ^
[06:10] <TheSilentWarrior> is there a way to get remote help on ubuntu? like let someone else access it remotly?
[06:11] <d3413r> so
[06:11] <d3413r> tds5016,
[06:11] <george_looney> hey biotrox
[06:11] <tds5016> yes d3413r ?
[06:11] <george_looney> biotrox: what are looking for?
[06:11] <PriceChild> markoutthere, if this doesn't work, you must then press ctrl+alt+f1 and log in, then type sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf" to restore defaults
[06:11] <POVaddct> ls
[06:11] <biotrox> george_looney | i'm looking for radius server in ubuntu
[06:11] <biotrox> beside freeradius
[06:11] <PriceChild> markoutthere, then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" to get back into a graphical environment
[06:11] <TheSilentWarrior> is there a way to get remote help on ubuntu? like let someone else access it remotly?
[06:12] <philo23> when ever i try to boot ubuntu i get this error right after the ubuntu splash loading screen, /bin/sh: can't access tty; job controll turned off, any ideas
[06:12] <d3413r> replace your sources.list with the following lines you can find here
[06:12] <d3413r> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38529/
[06:12] <mnoir> !vnc | TheSilentWarrior
[06:12] <ubotu> TheSilentWarrior: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[06:12] <d3413r> and than try sudo apt-get install gmake again
[06:12] <george_looney> biotrox: doing an apt-cache search radius throws a lot of options
[06:12] <tds5016> d3413r, replace which lines?
[06:12] <d3413r> all
[06:12] <d3413r> deleted whole file
[06:12] <zhouxuan> hello,when i ./configure in python source dir. i got this message "./configure: /bin/sh^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[06:12] <zhouxuan> ",how should i do?
[06:13] <d3413r> and copy this in
[06:13] <cstextiles> Truying to install Edubuntu but it says There is No Ethernet card detected. But I have Ethernet Card with which i am accessing the Inetrenet
[06:13] <tds5016> d3413r, remember I'm on 6.06, and I don't want ot do an internet upgrade as well.
[06:13] <berbear_> anyone got sony vaio motioneye webcam to work??
[06:13] <george_looney> biotrox: found radiusd-livingston
[06:13] <tds5016> d3413r, this woun't fubar anything, right?
[06:13] <d3413r> ?
[06:13] <d3413r> i dont thinl so
[06:13] <tds5016> d3413r, okay.
[06:13] <biotrox> ye i notice it too
[06:13] <tds5016> where can I find my repo lists again?
[06:13] <d3413r> i replaced edgy with 6.10 with dapper (6.06)
[06:13] <d3413r> ;)
[06:13] <d3413r> aeh
[06:13] <d3413r> i mean
[06:14] <mnoir> tds5016: /etc/apt
[06:14] <d3413r> i replaced edgy (6.10) with dapper (6.06)
[06:14] <biotrox> you ever use radius server..? george_looney
[06:14] <biotrox> ????
[06:14] <george_looney> biotrox: nope :)
[06:14] <d3413r> did you replace the whole lines @ tds5016 ?
[06:14] <cstextiles> Trying to install Edubuntu 6.06 but it says There is No Ethernet card detected. But I have Ethernet Card with which i am accessing the Internet
[06:14] <d3413r> omfg... i got some problem... my players are playing my music too fast >_<
[06:15] <george_looney> biotrox: what is it that you are trying to implement, if I may ask?
[06:15] <d3413r> Kaffeine und amarok play music too fast
[06:15] <d3413r> dunno why
[06:15] <mnoir> d3413r: dance faster?
[06:15] <d3413r> -.- how funny mnoir
[06:15] <Nontitle> mnoir: lol
[06:15] <george_looney> LOL @mnoir
[06:15] <philo23> when ever i try to boot ubuntu i get this error right after the ubuntu splash loading screen, /bin/sh: can't access tty; job controll turned off, any ideas
[06:15] <Nontitle> it's probably a problem with xine, then
[06:15] <LjL> i've had an interrupt problem that was apparently solved by using the 'noapic' kernel parameter. now i would like to know, what does this entail? i.e. what am i losing in layman terms?
[06:15] <d3413r> hmm
[06:16] <markoutthere> PriceChild
[06:16] <biotrox> i already use winRADIUS for my VPN Dial Up
[06:16] <markoutthere> Ok What do I do
[06:16] <d3413r> tds5016,
[06:16] <d3413r> ?
[06:16] <d3413r> still there
[06:16] <biotrox> but i want to change the radius server to linux base
[06:16] <tds5016> d3413r, what were you asking? I'm sorry.
[06:16] <PriceChild> markoutthere, I will write a pastebin for you then instead
[06:16] <d3413r> i asked if it works
[06:16] <biotrox> di winradius can't save logs
[06:16] <d3413r> did you replace the lines of your sources list
[06:16] <tds5016> nope.
[06:16] <george_looney> biotrox: hmm, no problems
[06:16] <d3413r> with the ones i gave u ?
[06:16] <Nontitle> d3413r: it's probably something wrong with xine, because amarok and kaffiene are just frontends
[06:16] <tds5016> d3413r, yup.
[06:16] <Nontitle> do you have xmms?
[06:17] <george_looney> biotrox: there are quiet a lot of documentations out there that would help you
[06:17] <tds5016> I aslo didn't apt-get update yet.
[06:17] <biotrox> ya ya
[06:17] <biotrox> thx georgr_looney
[06:17] <d3413r> tds5016
[06:17] <d3413r> first du
[06:17] <d3413r> do
[06:17] <philo23> when ever i try to boot ubuntu i get this error right after the ubuntu splash loading screen, /bin/sh: can't access tty; job controll turned off, any ideas
[06:17] <george_looney> biotrox: welcome
[06:17] <d3413r> sudo apt-get update
[06:17] <biotrox> i will read the documentations first
[06:17] <biotrox> :)
[06:17] <tds5016> d3413r, just did that.
[06:17] <d3413r> before you try sudo apt-get install gmake
[06:17] <d3413r> hmm maybe there is no package....
[06:18] <tds5016> d3413r, yup, still not in the listings.
[06:18] <Nontitle> speaking of which: how do you change the ubuntu splash loading screen, cause i just apt-get installed kubuntu-desktop and it changed from ubuntu to kubuntu, and i want to switch it back
[06:18] <d3413r> so you have to compile it on your own
[06:18] <tds5016> d3413r, where can I find it?
[06:18] <d3413r> http://www.gnu.org/software/make/ @ tds5016
[06:18] <d3413r> google helps ^^
[06:18] <tds5016> d3413r, that's make, not gmake
[06:18] <chaks> is there pygobject package for ubuntu?
[06:19] <chaks> no search is yielding me a result :(
[06:19] <Nontitle> can i ask what gmake is?
[06:19] <avgasse> why does ubuntu lie about the presence of a bluetooth adapter? It says there is no bluetooth adapter, but that is a lie. There is a bluetooth usb dongle, without which I wouldn't be able to use my keyboard.
[06:19] <chaks> any idea?
[06:19] <ExM3th1x> does somebody know a command for the terminal that shows me the mac adress of my own wlan device?
[06:19] <philo23> Nontitle: try this http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/02/20/restoring-the-ubuntu-usplash-after-a-kubuntu-install/
[06:19] <tds5016> d3413r, that's a link to make, not gmake.
[06:19] <Pelo> chaks,  did you look in synaptic ?
[06:19] <PriceChild> markoutthere, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38530/
[06:19] <tds5016> if I'm not mistaken d3413r ?
[06:19] <Nontitle> thank philo23
[06:19] <d3413r> wait...
[06:19] <chaks> Pelo , yes
[06:19] <ExM3th1x> ifconfig only shows a strange hardware id o.O
[06:19] <tds5016> d3413r, waiting.
[06:19] <chaks> Pelo, am trying to compile Sabayon
[06:20] <d3413r> it is gmake
[06:20] <d3413r> not make
[06:20] <d3413r> gmake (GNU make - called simply make on linux systems) is a tool to help you build a ...
[06:20] <thoreauputic> ExM3th1x: arp
[06:20] <d3413r> ...
[06:20] <chaks> Pelo, it is asking for gdk-x11-2.0 and pygobject-2.0
[06:20] <d3413r> the link is right one...
[06:20] <avgasse> is there anyone in this channel who knows something about bluetooth?
[06:20] <tds5016> d3413r, eventhough it says make, it sitll be gmake?
[06:20] <george_looney> last
[06:20] <chaks> I even searched via apt-cache search, but no package of that name :(
[06:20] <ExM3th1x> thoreauputic, root@ragga:~# arp
[06:20] <ExM3th1x> Adresse Hardware-Typ Hardware-Adresse Optionen Maske Schnittstelle
[06:20] <ExM3th1x> 192.168.2.1              ether   00:16:38:01:3B:F0   C                     eth0
[06:21] <nokrev> Hey, I'm trying to resize a partition made with the Debian installer, with the Ubuntu live cd. I think I may have screwed up originally creating the partitions, because now gparted doesn't recognize the main partitions can somebody help me avoid data loss?
[06:21] <ExM3th1x> thoreauputic, i don't think it is the mac of my wlan stick
[06:21] <thoreauputic> ExM3th1x: try arp with the right address
[06:21] <d3413r> tds5016,
[06:21] <Pelo> chaks,  assuming pyobject means some python object thing,  I see python sqlobject in the synaptic list
[06:21] <ExM3th1x> thoreauputic, looks like the mac of eth0 not wlan0
[06:21] <d3413r> Gnu Make = gmake
[06:21] <d3413r> ...
[06:21] <d3413r> GNU Make.... what is the abbreviation?
[06:21] <tds5016> oh!
[06:21] <d3413r> gmake
[06:21] <Nontitle> whats the difference between make and gmake?
[06:21] <d3413r> logical, or dont you think so?
[06:21] <thoreauputic> ExM3th1x: man arp  :)
[06:22] <TheSilentWarrior> hi, can anyone help me with this ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38531/
[06:22] <tds5016> d3413r, yeah, when you look at it from another perspective, sure.
[06:22] <LinTux> can you dual boot Ubuntu & Kubuntu?
[06:22] <chaks> Pelo, its Python gnome bindings - you can find the sources here - http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/GNOME/bindings/2.14/2.14.3/sources/python/
[06:22] <dv_> LinTux, they are the same
[06:22] <dv_> they just have different DEs preinstalled
[06:22] <chaks> but how come they are not there for ubuntu, when sabayon is avaialble in repos, these should be :(
[06:22] <mnoir> nokrev: exactly what have you done so far?
[06:22] <thoreauputic> ExM3th1x:  arp -if wlan0  or whatever
[06:22] <dv_> if you install kubuntu, and want gnome, install ubuntu-desktop, and you thats it
[06:23] <Nontitle> try using ./Configure
[06:23] <dv_> the equivalent is kubuntu-desktop
[06:23] <thoreauputic> ExM3th1x: actually -i I think
[06:23] <TheSilentWarrior> hi, can anyone help me with this ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38531/
[06:23] <Nontitle> TheSilentWarrior: try using ./Configure
[06:23] <LinTux> cheers
[06:23] <Pelo> chaks,  if you have a tar you can conpile it ,  look for info here on how to do it   http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/
[06:23] <darkkish_> guys IRC is working
[06:23] <darkkish_> but i can only get aim or msn working and not both
[06:23] <LinTux> terminal command to install standard KDE desktop
[06:23] <darkkish_> and websites aren't working
[06:23] <ExM3th1x> thoreauputic, wlan0: Unknown host?
[06:24] <d3413r> anybody got an idea to fix my xine problem
[06:24] <d3413r> ?
[06:24] <darkkish_> but everything is fine on my windows ccompouter
[06:24] <darkkish_> whats wrong?"
[06:24] <Nontitle> TheSilentWarrior: then make, then sudo make install
[06:24] <timo901> Guys im trying to get my mce remote to work with xmms but cant use sudo /etc/init.d/lircd start
[06:24] <TheSilentWarrior> nontitle , says bash: ./Configure: /bin/bash^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[06:24] <thoreauputic> ExM3th1x: do you want the router address or the local address?
[06:24] <Pelo> guys  can I re-partition my ntfs drive easily so I can back up my home folder and perform a resintall on my ext3 drive ?
[06:24] <tds5016> okay, d3413r I ./configure make make installed the thing.
[06:25] <thoreauputic> ExM3th1x: plain "arp" here just gives me the mac of the router
[06:25] <tds5016> and now when I type gmake it still doesn't show up...
[06:25] <tds5016> did it replace make?
[06:25] <tds5016> or ???
[06:25] <d3413r> dunno... i dont use gmake...
[06:25] <d3413r> ;)
[06:25] <avgasse> how much does it cost to get support for my bluetooth problem *and* get a 100% guarantee that the problem is completely solved?
[06:25] <ExM3th1x> thoreauputic, right
[06:25] <Nontitle> oh
[06:25] <{w00t}> hai
[06:25] <nokrev> Is there any way to avoid data loss when resizing a ext3 partition. I'm a n00b, but gparted doesn't seem to recognize the partitions created using an LVM in the Debian installer.
[06:25] <chaks> Pelo, compiled and installed pygobject :)
[06:25] <d3413r> otherwise i would also be able to solve my own problem with xine
[06:25] <mnoir> tds5016: have you tried skipping the 'g' key whilst typing the command?
[06:26] <Pelo> chaks,  congrats
[06:26] <tds5016> mnoir, what do you mean?
[06:26] <thoreauputic> ExM3th1x: ifconfig or iwconfig should show tha mac address for your interfaces
[06:26] <chaks> now gdk-x11-2.0 is pending Pelo
[06:26] <tds5016> mnoir, make shows up, and under man make gnu make shows up as the title.
[06:26] <Pelo> chaks,  best of luck
[06:26] <thoreauputic> ExM3th1x: have you tried ifconfig -a ?
[06:26] <stfn> nokrev: make a backup first, test that the backup works (i.e. that all your data is in the backup and you can get it back from there), then resize and if it fails, restore from the backup
[06:26] <chaks> thanks Pelo :)
[06:27] <mnoir> i mean that you have been told, given original source citations for the fact that on linux, make IS gmake
[06:27] <ExM3th1x> thoreauputic, http://rafb.net/p/LMqItI72.html
[06:27] <darkkish_> come on guys help me with my intarnets problem
[06:27] <nokrev> stfn: hmm, seems like that's what I'll have to do
[06:27] <tds5016> okay, I think I have gmake installed...
[06:27] <mnoir> :)
[06:27] <thoreauputic> ExM3th1x: hardwaare address should be the mac
[06:27] <TheSilentWarrior> nontitle _?
[06:27] <thoreauputic> *hardware
[06:28] <avgasse> hello, I have wasted too much time & frustration trying to get bluetooth to work. I'm fed up with it. I'm willing to dig out my wallet to get the problem solved. Let someone else waste his/her time.
[06:28] <ExM3th1x> thoreauputic, i figured it out.... it where the first 6 bytes
[06:28] <ExM3th1x> thoreauputic, thx
[06:28] <xan> Hi, I have a problem: I installed mldonkey-server and now I can't uninstall it
[06:28] <thoreauputic> ExM3th1x: np :)
[06:28] <avgasse> because "for free" support isn't able to solve the problem, apparently
[06:28] <Pelo> avgasse,  look in system , under help,  there is a link for commercial support
[06:28] <mnoir> xan: how did you install it?
[06:28] <Nontitle> apt-get remove doesn't work?
[06:28] <avgasse> pelo: thank you
[06:28] <tds5016> but... nonetheless, this still won't install, and I need help with it and I'm afraid I'm going to get banned when I say what it is eventhough it's for a legitimate purpose. I'm trying to install a botnet for a class demonstration on how they work, and I was going to attack a virtual machine with it, and then show how to defend against the attack... but the thing won't install.
[06:29] <xan> mnoir: apt-get install mldonkey-server
[06:29] <Nontitle> so you're saying apt-get remove doesn't work?
[06:29] <mnoir> my question exactly...
[06:29] <Pelo> avgasse,   not to rub it in but... if you didn,t find that commercial support link on your own,  your problem iwth setting up bleutooth is probably du to lack of research
[06:29] <tds5016> is there anyone willing to help with the compile error?
[06:29] <xan> The output is: http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=26635
[06:30] <Nontitle> xan: use paste.ubuntu-nl.org and show us what happens when ou use apt-get remove
[06:30] <Nontitle> lol nevermind
[06:30] <avgasse> Pelo: found it: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/marketplace/europe#head-0a0d8fde686207ec45f2042230e6cf75b12616e5
[06:30] <tds5016> http://pastebin.com/843823 that is if anyone is interested?
[06:30] <xan> Nontitle I pasted in http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=26635
[06:31] <avgasse> I have spent a total of 38hours 24 minutes (25 now) trying to solve the problem myself - It's only now that I am considering commercial support.
[06:31] <Nontitle> i know, thats why i said nevermind
[06:31] <xan> Nontitle sorry
[06:31] <Nontitle> lol its ok
[06:31] <tds5016> anyone giong to help with this?
[06:32] <xan> can you help me?
[06:32] <mnoir> tds5016: pastebin error?
[06:32] <tds5016> http://pastebin.com/843823
[06:32] <tds5016> ^^ mnoir
[06:32] <mnoir> xan: sorry - I cannot read
[06:32] <Nontitle> you have to kill mldonkey first
[06:32] <avgasse> ok tnx for the link for commercial support, I'll try that. bye!
[06:32] <athomas> Hello everybody. I have a little probleme to configure my internet connection ( wireless, with wpa encryption). i have network manager. My /etc/network/interfaces is Ok (just two lines, with Lo)
[06:32] <TheSilentWarrior> avgasse i am trying to solve this for 4 weeks now...
[06:32] <athomas> can someone help me ?
[06:33] <mnoir> tds5016: looks like a coding error - you may need to go to the author
[06:33] <tds5016> mnoir, that's what I was thinking, but argh to that. haha!
[06:33] <stfn> did a recent update change they sort order for bookmarks in firefox?  folders used to come before bare bookmarks, now they are interleaved.  is there a firefox preference to sort folders first?  i can't find anything likely in the preferences or about:config
[06:33] <mnoir> :(
[06:33] <xan> ps -aux | grep "mldonkey"
[06:33] <xan> Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See http://procps.sf.net/faq.html
[06:33] <xan> root     13002  0.0  0.1   2892   820 pts/0    S+   18:33   0:00 grep mldonkey
[06:33] <stfn> (change the ...)
[06:33] <xan> Nontitle mldonkey does not run
[06:34] <Nontitle> oh
[06:34] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: it appears saxofoner's problem was that he still has dapper sources in his apt sources (see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38519/ ) I think he updated to edgy without removing all his previous source entries
[06:34] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: if you see him maybe you could pass that on
[06:35] <__rob__> On edgy eft what's the version of xorg?
[06:35] <Nontitle> its ps aux not ps -aux
[06:35] <xan> dpkg -l : http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=26636
[06:35] <POVaddct> __rob__: 7.1
[06:36] <xan> ps aux | grep "mldonkey"
[06:36] <xan> root     13647  0.0  0.1   2728   760 pts/0    R+   18:35   0:00 grep mldonkey
[06:36] <w3ccv> stfn, bookmarks in Firefox hasn't changed. order them any way you see fit.  Manage Bookmarks or Organize bookmarks
[06:36] <__rob__> I'm getting a weird error message from fglrx.
[06:36] <Nontitle> hmmm
[06:36] <TheSilentWarrior> does anyone here use a USB wireless connection adapter on ubuntu ?
[06:36] <w3ccv> stfn,  then drag-n-drop
[06:36] <stfn> w3ccv: sort by name used to place folders before bare bookmarks, now they are interleaved in alphabetical order
[06:37] <POVaddct> TheSilentWarrior: yes, a d-link dwl-g122 (rev. b1)
[06:37] <TheSilentWarrior> povaddct how did u install it?
[06:37] <xan> I tried apt-get remove -f
[06:37] <[A] ndy80> Hi, I've a little problem with my desktop: all desktop icons have disappeared... restarting my session doesn't fix. How can I restore it?
[06:37] <w3ccv> stfn, I never sort them - I put them in MY order - most used at thetop
[06:37] <__rob__> (WW) fglrx(0): Video Overlay not supported on AVIVO based graphics cards. For XV
[06:37] <__rob__> ideo support please upgrade to Xorg 6.9 or later and use Option "TexturedVideo".
[06:37] <POVaddct> TheSilentWarrior: just loaded the rt2570 module
[06:37] <TheSilentWarrior> it compile?
[06:38] <__rob__> If xorg is 7.1... then what's the issue?
[06:38] <thoreauputic> [A] ndy80: try killall nautilus   in a terminal
[06:38] <TheSilentWarrior> povaddct mine doesnt compile :(
[06:38] <POVaddct> TheSilentWarrior: no, rt2570 is part of the kernel modules
[06:38] <xan> Nontitle any idea?
[06:38] <TheSilentWarrior> povaddct how do i make it work ? i am new to ubuntu
[06:38] <[A] ndy80> thoreauputic: nautilus: no process killed
[06:39] <Nontitle> sorry... i have no clue
[06:39] <thoreauputic> [A] ndy80: erm - you are running gnome?
[06:39] <[A] ndy80> thoreauputic: it's something like nautilus was not start when my session start
[06:39] <POVaddct> TheSilentWarrior: why did you compile anyway? the rt2570 module should be there
[06:39] <thoreauputic> ah
[06:39] <w3ccv> stfn, as far as I see, sorting is only valid in the manage window
[06:39] <thoreauputic> [A] ndy80: try starting it then :)  type  nautilus &
[06:39] <[A] ndy80> thoreauputic: yes... I was only playing with themes... then probably Nautilus crashed, session was saved and... no more nautilus
[06:39] <xan> so?. Ask help for me?
[06:39] <cmwe1> !java
[06:39] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[06:39] <TheSilentWarrior> povaddct, be there? where? i downloaded a tar file from the net with it
[06:40] <un_operateur> thoreauputic, sure, if he comes around -- but aptitude could also be suggesting the downgrade if the older .deb is in /var/cache/apt/archives ??
[06:40] <xan> Any who can help me? ;-(
[06:40] <philo23> when ever i try to boot ubuntu i get this error right after the ubuntu splash loading screen, /bin/sh: can't access tty; job controll turned off, any ideas
[06:40] <emilia> the folders in my home directory turned into files? i cant access any of my stuff? anyone feel like helping me?
[06:40] <[A] ndy80> thoreauputic: ok, my icons are back :D
[06:40] <[A] ndy80> thanks ;)
[06:40] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: maybe - but i suspect his sources are borked
[06:40] <thoreauputic> [A] ndy80: :)
[06:40] <POVaddct> TheSilentWarrior: it should be somewhere under /lib/modules/<your_kernel_version>
[06:41] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: he could try sudo apt-get clean to sort out his cache
[06:41] <LinTux> what is the best web design package for Ubuntu?
[06:41] <POVaddct> TheSilentWarrior: try modinfo rt2570 to see if it is installed
[06:41] <emilia> also all my files are 0 bytes?!!
[06:41] <emilia> :(
[06:41] <philo23> when ever i try to boot my pc i get this error right after the ubuntu splash loading screen, /bin/sh: can't access tty; job controll turned off, any ideas
[06:41] <TheSilentWarrior> povaddct, ok, will check, but how do i make it connect wirelessly? how do put the wireless password or even select the station
[06:41] <thoreauputic> [A] ndy80: make sure you save your session :)
[06:41] <__rob__> Does anyone know why xvideo won't work with fglrx?
[06:41] <POVaddct> TheSilentWarrior: you didnt say you were using encryption
[06:41] <xan> Nontitle ?
[06:42] <Nontitle> i have no clye what to do
[06:42] <Nontitle> clue*
[06:42] <POVaddct> TheSilentWarrior: also you didnt say which wireless usb adapter you have
[06:42] <xan> Wow!!!
[06:42] <[A] ndy80> ok
[06:42] <xan> :-(
[06:42] <un_operateur> thoreauputic, errm, I dunno if mixed sources will make that much of a difference because apt will install the package with the higher revision anyway -- but yea, it's a good idea to stick to one release nonetheless
[06:43] <TheSilentWarrior> povaddct sorry, i thought that those rt2570 were like drivers, and then i would need to have another program to see stations and stuff, like windows
[06:43] <LinTux> best web design package for Linux
[06:43] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: you notice that ap was trying to downgrade nautilus
[06:43] <thoreauputic> *apt
[06:43] <__rob__> Any xorg guru's out there?
[06:43] <un_operateur> thoreauputic, I do yes
[06:43] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: which suggests that the siurces are wrong
[06:43] <thoreauputic> *sources
[06:43] <TheSilentWarrior> povaddct i have a conceptronic 54mpbs ubs adapter, c54ru
[06:44] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: ie it couldn't find the edgy version
[06:44] <POVaddct> TheSilentWarrior: first you have to check which chipset you have in the conceptronic usb adapter
[06:45] <TheSilentWarrior> povaddct http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38532/
[06:45] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: to clarify - it couldn't find the newest version
[06:45] <TheSilentWarrior> povaddect can you guide me? i think i have the right ones, because i searched for it, and the ones i have are for this model
[06:45] <POVaddct> TheSilentWarrior: the modinfo output has nothing to do with the chipset on your adapter
[06:46] <DeeJay> Hello, I have just installed Ubunto and I was wondering why root can't logon to the gnome system?
[06:46] <POVaddct> TheSilentWarrior: it just tells you that the rt2570 module is there
[06:46] <gharz> guys... i have xp & ubuntu installed in my machine. i've a file in linux that i want to copy/paste in my xp system. how do i do that? xp is using ntfs format.
[06:46] <mnoir> DeeJay: logging on as root is frowned upon
[06:46] <thoreauputic> DeeJay: security - you know about sudo, right?
[06:46] <samern> Hi- I need help getting Firefox 2.0.0.1 on ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[06:46] <philo23> when ever i try to boot my pc i get this error right after the ubuntu splash loading screen, /bin/sh: can't access tty; job controll turned off, any ideas?
[06:46] <DeeJay> thoreauputic:  yes i do
[06:47] <thoreauputic> DeeJay: youshould not run the GUI as root
[06:47] <eriksays> okay -- question
[06:47] <DeeJay> But how do I use the "Network Configuration" tool in Gnome then?
[06:47] <TheSilentWarrior> povaddect ok, but i am trying to give all the info possible, because i dont really know how this works, since i am new, all info i can get is a help for you to understant my problem xD
[06:47] <thoreauputic> DeeJay: you type in your user password
[06:47] <__rob__> Anyone out there familiar with xvideo and fglrx?
[06:47] <POVaddct> TheSilentWarrior: try lsusb when the adapter is plugged in
[06:47] <DeeJay> thoreauputic:  It doesnt promt for a password
[06:47] <samern> I need help getting Firefox 2.0.0.1 on ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[06:47] <thoreauputic> DeeJay: it should
[06:47] <Lam_> how do i get ubuntu server to load a script upon booting?
[06:47] <jman_> gharz: trying mounting your NTFS parititon, and then copying and pasting the file?
[06:47] <mnoir> Deeexactly what command are you running
[06:48] <TheSilentWarrior> povaddct ok, have 2 usb devices
[06:48] <__rob__> Lam_:  You can put it in /etc/rc.local
[06:48] <w3ccv> TheSilentWarrior, I came in in the middle, can you connect to an unexcrypted AP
[06:48] <DeeJay> thoreauputic: I have not changed anything at all, just installed Ubuntu... When I try to get into the configuration it will give me this: Configuration could not be loaded: You are not allowed toa ccess the system configuration
[06:48] <__rob__> well... modify that script.
[06:48] <eriksays> i have a harddrive setup as a slave -- it used to be a master drive and still have the filesystem structure in place that it had as a master
[06:48] <TheSilentWarrior> w3ccv how?
[06:48] <POVaddct> TheSilentWarrior: can you put them on pastebin?
[06:48] <eriksays> can i just start deleting directories fromthat drive with now problems?
[06:48] <Lam_> __rob__: ok thanks
[06:48] <gharz> jman_, i can't paste a file from linux to my windows... but i can copy/paste files from xp to my ubuntu.
[06:48] <thoreauputic> DeeJay: try gksudo network-admin
[06:48] <DeeJay> thoreauputic:  Oh I think it has added a user called "oem" for those purposes
[06:48] <w3ccv> TheSilentWarrior, I guess the answer's no - never mind
[06:48] <samern> Firefox 2.0.0.1 on Ubuntu 6.06, can someone help?
[06:48] <DeeJay> thoreauputic:  okay I will, thank you
[06:48] <thoreauputic> DeeJay: ah you did theoem install
[06:49] <Lam_> __rob__: i don't have to log in for the script to autoload, right?
[06:49] <un_operateur> thoreauputic, errm, packages work on revision numbers not release candidates i.e. package-2.0.3ubuntu.deb  not  package-2.0.3edgy.deb  -- its so different releases like edgy and dapper might use the same package in the pool (rather than have different names and take up additional space)
[06:49] <eriksays> i would just re-format the whole thing but there are files i want to keep
[06:49] <DeeJay> thoreauputic:  yes?
[06:49] <thoreauputic> DeeJay: you probably need to create a user with sudo privileges
[06:49] <TheSilentWarrior> povaddc, one is just 00000:00000 i think its not important, the other one is Bus 001 Device 002: ID 14b2:3c22
[06:49] <__rob__> Lam_: That's correct.
[06:49] <whyameye> gharz: I've had mixed experiences writing to an NTFS volume from Linux. Instead I'd but into WinXP and use Explore2fs: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm
[06:49] <Lam_> __rob__: ok great. thanks a lot
[06:49] <DeeJay> thoreauputic: oh...
[06:49] <Nontitle> having firefox on your computer isn't a problem
[06:49] <DeeJay> thoreauputic:  any chance you can tell me how to do that?
[06:49] <whyameye> gharz: *boot
[06:49] <jman_> gharz: trying to doing at as root: su cp <source file> <directory where NTFS is mounted
[06:49] <philo23> when ever i try to boot my pc i get this error right after the ubuntu splash loading screen, /bin/sh: can't access tty; job controll turned off, any ideas?
[06:50] <whyameye> jman_: doesn't the standard ntfs driver for linux only work read-only?
[06:50] <samern>  Firefox 2.0.0.1 on Ubuntu 6.06, can someone help?
[06:50] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: *sigh* how is the apt tool supposed to find the latest package if the repo isn't in the sources.list
[06:50] <Nontitle> having firefox on your computer isn't a problem
[06:50] <TheSilentWarrior> povaddc , ubuntu is plug and play compatible right? it will detect it even if i plug it in while ubuntu is running
[06:50] <jman_> whyameye: I thought they improved so you could rw?
[06:50] <psYchotic> hello. In gnome, I have set my multimedia keys up, and they work, except for the fact that my volume keys change the volume of the wrong mixer. How would I fix that?
[06:50] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: I'm not a newbie
[06:50] <whyameye> jman_: maybe. That would be great!
[06:51] <Valmarko> Merry Christmas to all Humanity !!
[06:51] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: think about it
[06:51] <samern> Nontile: I know, but I can't find a .deb for FF 2.0.0.1
[06:51] <DeeJay> thoreauputic: Can you help me make my user "deejay" able to enter the configuration tools?
[06:51] <TheSilentWarrior> Valmarko, thx, merry xmas to u too :)
[06:51] <un_operateur> thoreauputic, because apt downloads the particular dists Packages.gz .. and the contents of it point the .deb to a location within a pool
[06:51] <Nontitle> you have to install firefox from source i believe
[06:51] <thoreauputic> DeeJay: does "oem" have sudo rights? i haven't done an oem install
[06:51] <samern> Notitle: can you please help me do so ?
[06:52] <POVaddct> TheSilentWarrior: yes, but there is not a linux driver for each and every piece of hardware (thanks to the ignorance of the h/w manufacturers)
[06:52] <DeeJay> thoreauputic: I think so, yes
[06:52] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: you haven't geasped what I'm saying, and you are wrong in this case, sorry
[06:52] <hjmills> what is the wine support channel?
[06:52] <DeeJay> thoreauputic:  Oh, I just need to put my self into the "Admin" group it seems
[06:52] <TheSilentWarrior> povaddct, i know xD thats why i need help
[06:52] <POVaddct> TheSilentWarrior: i googled a bit for that usb id. it seems the adapter has the ralink rt73 chipset
[06:52] <un_operateur> thoreauputic, i know you arent a newbie and i don't say you are -- think about it, how do you save space on a repository yet still get the various distributions to use packages at the latest support revisions
[06:52] <thoreauputic> DeeJay: then add the new user to "admin" group
[06:53] <TheSilentWarrior> povaddct, thats about right, i think thats exactly what i found
[06:53] <DeeJay> thoreauputic: I will try usermod my own user to use the admin group
[06:53] <emilia> does anyone know the chmod command to change something to a directory?
[06:53] <markoutthere> PriceChild It didnt work what it did was take away my 1024x768 resolution and put me on 800x600, my problem is that i need much higher res but I am sure having the correct driver will give me those options. Any further suggetsions?
[06:53] <Nontitle> dl the .tar.gz from mozilla.org then put it into a directory and use ./configure and then make and then sudo make install
[06:53] <emilia> i did chmod -hR 644 on my whole home directory by accident
[06:53] <POVaddct> TheSilentWarrior: so why didnt you tell me it is rt73 and not rt2570?
[06:53] <PriceChild> markoutthere, so you're now on the savage driver? :D
[06:53] <geo> has the kde desktop got a volume control?
[06:53] <markoutthere> No I rolled back
[06:53] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: How on earth do you imagine that apt can find an edgy package if the edgy rep for the pacjkage isn't configured? I mean, really...
[06:53] <__rob__> directories need the 'x' priviledge.
[06:54] <DeeJay> thoreauputic:  wont work tho... If i shouldnt install it as OEM, what else then for workstation purposes?
[06:54] <markoutthere> PriceChild no I rolled back
[06:54] <thoreauputic> DeeJay: sorry, I have no experience with the oem install
[06:54] <TheSilentWarrior> povaddct ops, isnt those the drivers that are compatible with alot of devices, including rt73 ?
[06:54] <PriceChild> markoutthere, argh :(
[06:54] <thoreauputic> DeeJay: visudo to config the sudoer's file
[06:54] <DeeJay> thoreauputic: But how would you suggest I install it? I mean, what to chose instead of OEM
[06:54] <markoutthere> Should I be back on savage?
[06:54] <PriceChild> markoutthere, hmm I'm not sure how to install the savage driver then... and we need to do that first
[06:55] <chrissturm> is it possible to install ubuntu on a software raid 1 ?
[06:55] <POVaddct> TheSilentWarrior: no, rt73 is a separate driver, directly from ralink. fortunately, ralink is a manufacturer who cares about linux.
[06:55] <__rob__> emilia:  find -type d /home/<user> | while read dir; do chmod u+x g+x $dir; done
[06:55] <PriceChild> markoutthere, did you get an error when you used savage?
[06:55] <thoreauputic> DeeJay: just use the default install method - which CD are you using?
[06:55] <PriceChild> markoutthere, or did you get graphics?
[06:55] <markoutthere> No errors, just no options for higher res
[06:55] <PriceChild> markoutthere, OK that's great :D
[06:55] <TheSilentWarrior> povaddct :) ok, will try to find the driver, will ask for help when i find it ok?
[06:55] <markoutthere> PriceChild Yes I had rgraphics but onlu at 800x600
[06:55] <emilia> __rob__ : whats the package i need to use my mouse in console? so i can copy paste that?
[06:55] <DeeJay> thoreauputic: Hmm the image is on my unmounted drive, but its ubuntu-alternate something
[06:55] <PriceChild> markoutthere, right I need you to follow my instructions again
[06:56] <markoutthere> PriceChild ok
[06:56] <un_operateur> thoreauputic, maybe you don't see where i am coming from? just what defines an edgy package? and in regards to saxoner -- he could have both the edgy and dapper sources listed, who knows?
[06:56] <POVaddct> TheSilentWarrior: rt73 is not included in ubuntu, that one has to be built from source. you need packages build-essential and kernel source for that.
[06:56] <markoutthere> PriceChild I will do that and be back when they are done
[06:56] <PriceChild> markoutthere, when you get to choosing resolutions... make sure that whatever resolutions you want are enabled.... space selects, enter moves to the next page
[06:56] <hjmills> is there a way to specify a max number of failed login attempts over ssh?
[06:56] <thoreauputic> DeeJay: the alternate CD will install if you just hit "enter" at the first screen
[06:56] <__rob__> emilia, I used to know that....
[06:56] <DeeJay> thoreauputic: Hmm okay, i'll have a look at it
[06:56] <samern> Firefox 2.0.0.1 HELP please.
[06:56] <PriceChild> markoutthere, ok/
[06:57] <Nontitle> dl the .tar.gz from mozilla.org then put it into a directory and use ./configure and then make and then sudo make install
[06:57] <markoutthere> PriceChild where do I choose that in the X11?
[06:57] <emilia> __rob__ i obviously dont type done ?
[06:57] <PriceChild> !ask | samern
[06:57] <ubotu> samern: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:57] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: no, he most likely has most of the edgy lines, but some are missing
[06:57] <aled> I'm installing the ATi graphics driver and it says you can install the control panel but it's not nadvised as it is buggy...how elese would I change settings? I.e. like dual screens?
[06:57] <stfn> w3ccv: from #firefox: < Peng> stfn: Try going to Bookmarks -> Manage Bookmarks, and then View -> Unsorted in the window that comes up.
[06:57] <__rob__> Yes.... you do.
[06:57] <TheSilentWarrior> povaddct linux-headers-2.6.17-10_2.6.17-10.33_i386 and linux-source-2.6.17_2.6.17-10.33_all right ?
[06:57] <PriceChild> markoutthere, didn't I give you a command which takes you through it?
[06:57] <emilia> __rob__ omg thank you so much
[06:57] <Nontitle> !firefox
[06:57] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[06:57] <samern> nontitle: ./configure does not work
[06:57] <hjmills> so if an ip attempts to login say 5 times then it will block that ip for an hour or so?
[06:57] <PriceChild> markoutthere, sudo dpkg--reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:57] <PriceChild> markoutthere, just like before
[06:57] <POVaddct> TheSilentWarrior: certainly not 2.6.17, as you are running 2.6.15
[06:57] <__rob__> emilia, replace "<user>" with your username.
[06:57] <thoreauputic> un_operateur: it is impossible for the installer to make a clean install unless all the needed lines for edgy are there
[06:58] <instant> Does anyone here know if there is a way to remote control ones mobile through bluetooth?
[06:58] <emilia> __rob__ it keeps saying cannot access g+x no such file or directory
[06:58] <markoutthere> PriceChild That command give me this error : sudo: dpkg--reconfigure: command not found
[06:59] <TheSilentWarrior> povaddct those files i downloaded, on a .deb package, its a problem having them?
[06:59] <__rob__> emilia, whoops... sorry my bad.
[06:59] <stfn> w3ccv: after that I am able to right-click on any bookmark in the bookmark manager or in the bookmark side bar and select "Sort By Name" and all bookmarks and folders will be sorted folders first, then bookmarks.  I must have selected a different sort order in the bookmark manager some time.
[06:59] <orangefly> why can't i connect to us.archuve.ubuntu.com....???....
[06:59] <PriceChild> markoutthere, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:59] <__rob__> emilia:  find /home/<user> -type d | while read dir; do chmod u+x g+x $dir; done
[06:59] <PriceChild> markoutthere, only one dash sorry
[06:59] <MWS_> guys, I'm at a bit of a worrying stage. Lastnight, I installed ubuntu 6.10 RC.. Now, everything went fine and I was happy. Well, I fell asleep and the laptop was still on.. it was very hot and at the time I was doing a big update...  It froze and obviousely was like that for sometime. I had to turn my laptop off and I done so.. The next time i started up - i noticed the hard drive was...
[06:59] <MWS_> ...*Totally* ruined! every block was ruined and I tried everything to fix it, but no help. Well, I just decided that the HD had enough and it's fair enough because I abused the HD quite a lot. So, I've now bought another one and finally just finished installing ubuntu 6.10 RC. The HD is very nice and quiet, and I've yet to fix my bcm4318 wifi card drivers. Should I be worrying that the...
[06:59] <MWS_> ...updates might ruin this new hd?
[06:59] <POVaddct> TheSilentWarrior: why not install the appropriate kernel-source package with apt-get?
[07:00] <TheSilentWarrior> povaddct, didng have net on portable pc, but a friend lend me a PCI MCIA for net
[07:00] <TheSilentWarrior> povaddct, now i can, how ?
[07:00] <POVaddct> TheSilentWarrior: i dont know the exact package name, and i have no ubuntu system right now to look at
[07:01] <orangefly> -->why can't i connect to us.archuve.ubuntu.com....???....
[07:01] <POVaddct> what is the name of the kernel source package for dapper?
[07:01] <orangefly> archive....
[07:01] <instant> Does anyone here know if there is a way to remote control ones mobile through bluetooth?
[07:01] <mnoir> MWS_: just curious why you didn't start with the proper RELEASED 6.10?
[07:01] <emilia> __rob__ same error
[07:01] <thoreauputic> orangefly: s/archuve/archive  ?
[07:01] <TheSilentWarrior> povaddct, ok, synaptic has it right ? will try to find
[07:01] <emilia> __rob__ and /home/emilia is still a 0byte file :(
[07:01] <hjmills> MWS_: if you feel confident open up the laptop and clean out the ventilation ducts and get rid of all the dust
[07:01] <timo901> trying to get my mce remote to work http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/843835
[07:02] <timo901> pls help
[07:02] <POVaddct> TheSilentWarrior: yeah, just make sure you get the matching version. compare to "uname -a" output.
[07:02] <MWS_> mnoir: Oh, I just didnt bother downloading it again.. I mean, the RC *is* the final anyway, I wasn't aware of any changes
[07:02] <orangefly> i meant archive....
[07:02] <__rob__> emilia:  find /home/<user> -type d | while read dir; do chmod gu+x $dir; done
[07:02] <thoreauputic> oops
[07:02] <MWS_> hjmills:  I think the HD just had enough... The laptop is very clean and I don't let it overheat.. well, only lastnight that I forgot
[07:02] <__rob__> emilia,  if at first you don't succeed
[07:03] <MWS_> brb
[07:03] <orangefly> what can cause an archive to just time out....???....
[07:04] <__rob__> orangefly, lots of things
[07:04] <emilia> __rob__ omg i think it worked
[07:04] <thoreauputic> orangefly: did you check the spelling :) ?
[07:04] <__rob__> emilia, That should have only modified the directories.
[07:04] <thoreauputic> orangefly: I can ping us.archive.ubuntu.com, so i guess it's up :)
[07:04] <emilia> __rob__ it kept showing my folders and saying no such file or dir, but now i can cd to it
[07:04] <emilia> __rob__ how do i fix my files?
[07:05] <orangefly> i can't even do apt-get install update
[07:05] <emilia> orangefly its apt-get update
[07:05] <thoreauputic> orangefly: that's  apt-get update
[07:05] <__rob__> emilia:  find /home/<user> -type f | while read file; do chmod gu+rw $file; done
[07:05] <timo901> sudo apt-get install update -f
[07:06] <markoutthere> PriceChild it is asking me for video cards bus identifier
[07:06] <__rob__> emilia, Is that close?
[07:06] <timo901> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/843835
[07:06] <PriceChild> markoutthere, just leave EVERYTHING you don't understand as it is
[07:06] <timo901> mce remote
[07:06] <PriceChild> markoutthere, only change the driver and the resolutions
[07:06] <PriceChild> markoutthere, remember  space selects, enter moves to next page
[07:06] <TheSilentWarrior> povaddct ok, downloading
[07:06] <root___> i need help getting ubuntu working again, i just installed windows on a seperate partition, tried to reinstall grub via grub command line and now my pc wont boot ether ubuntu or windows
[07:06] <markoutthere> PriceChild OK
[07:07] <orangefly> that's what i meant....it's not a spelling error or anything....
[07:07] <IndyGUnFreak> does anyone know how to change the default icon for a particular file type(say, mp3 for example), without changing them all one a ta time.., its an icon I have downloaded
[07:07] <aled> I'm installing the ATi graphics driver and it says you can install the control panel but it's not nadvised as it is buggy...how elese would I change settings? I.e. like dual screens?
[07:07] <slicky> how do i convert a bin to a iso ?
[07:07] <emilia> __rob__ its doing somehting
[07:07] <thoreauputic> orangefly: it's possible the archive is being updated - try again a bit later
[07:07] <philo23> i need help getting ubuntu working again, i just installed windows on a seperate partition, tried to reinstall grub via grub command line and now my pc wont boot ether ubuntu or windows
[07:07] <thoreauputic> orangefly: or use a different mirror
[07:08] <emilia> its listing all my files, but saying chmod cannot access, no such file or dir
[07:08] <n2diy> philo, install Windows, and then linux.
[07:08] <derFlo> hi
[07:08] <emilia> __rob__ its listing all my files, but saying chmod cannot access, no such file or dir
[07:08] <emilia> __rob__ but thats what it said about the folder, and it changed them
[07:09] <derFlo> i need a software like Daemon Tools on windows, i want to mount CD images.
[07:09] <thoreauputic> orangefly: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive/OfficialMirrors
[07:09] <__rob__> emilia, are you the same user as the owner of the file?
[07:09] <philo23> n2diy: how do i get my files off linux now then?
[07:09] <orangefly> ty....
[07:09] <w3ccv> slicky, what is is it you want to do? put a binary file on a cdrom?
[07:09] <cstextiles> Trying to install Edubuntu 6.06  but it says There is No Ethernet card detected. But I have Ethernet Card with which i am accessing the Internet What i s the solution?
[07:10] <n2diy> philo23: Boot from the Ubuntu CD, and copy them to something.
[07:10] <IndyGUnFreak> lol, cstext
[07:10] <dead1ock> Hello
[07:10] <slicky> w3ccv:  mount a .bin file.. av got the .cue file aswell..
[07:10] <raxip> hello
[07:10] <emilia> __rob__ it worked, i just used nano on one of my txt files
[07:10] <IndyGUnFreak> cstext, are you saying it doesn't see your ethernet card, but you're getting online(in LInux)?
[07:10] <__rob__> emilia, excellent.
[07:10] <n2diy> emilia: congrats.
[07:10] <philo23> n2diy: i'm on live cd atm, but i cant mount my HDD, it says "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1"
[07:10] <emilia> __rob__ im the worst pc user everrrrrrr
[07:11] <TheSilentWarrior> povaddct ok, installing
[07:11] <cstextiles> No I am getting online though Knoppix Live CD
[07:11] <__rob__> emilia, No... that would be my mom.
[07:11] <IndyGUnFreak> oh, ok...
[07:11] <IndyGUnFreak> i was just chuckling at that thought.
[07:11] <w3ccv> sladen, what is a .bin file?  what is a .cue file - *nix doesn't care about 'extensions' - names don't mean much
[07:11] <Acu> hey guys - If I have SMB4K and Samba installed - I see the Windows Computer however when I try to connect to the share it tells me NT-STATUS_ACOUNT_Disabled (or something like this)  any hint how to bypass this anoying block?
[07:11] <emilia> __rob__ no she wouldnt of done chmod 644 on my home dir
[07:11] <cstextiles> I mean it is detecting Ethernet Card but not Edubuntu
[07:11] <raxip> not sure
[07:11] <dead1ock> ok
[07:11] <cstextiles> What to do?
[07:11] <w3ccv> slicky, , what is a .bin file?  what is a .cue file - *nix doesn't care about 'extensions' - names don't mean much
[07:12] <__rob__> emilia, she wouldn't have done chmod -R 644 on her home dir... true.
[07:12] <TheSilentWarrior> w3ccv its a Nero Burning Rom way of making CD Images
[07:12] <thoreauputic> !bchunk
[07:12] <ubotu> bchunk: CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-1 (edgy), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB
[07:12] <n2diy> philo23: I don't know what to do.
[07:12] <__rob__> emilia, but she would visit dancinghamster.com
[07:12] <w3ccv> sladen, sri not meant for yuou
[07:12] <w3ccv> TheSilentWarrior, Ahhhh
[07:12] <philo23> n2diy: thanks any way
[07:12] <emilia> __rob__ im going to try and get to gui and see if it works, then come back here, thanks!!!
[07:12] <slicky> w3ccv: its a image file..
[07:12] <thoreauputic> w3ccv: see ubotu above
[07:12] <w3ccv> TheSilentWarrior, AFIK that's a windows thing
[07:13] <TheSilentWarrior> w3ccv yup xD
[07:13] <aled> un_operateur: you there?
[07:13] <un_operateur> aled, aye :)
[07:13] <__rob__> fglrx and xvideo?  Anyone having trouble with that?
 does anyone here have devilspie knowledge?
 http://irc.linuxlovers.at/users/~mots/devilspie.tar.gz
 <mots> it's supposed to hide all gimp-windows from the taskbar (except the images one), and to maximize the image
 <mots> but it doesnt actually do anything
[07:13] <philo23> does any one know how to mount the ubuntu partition on HDD in live cd?
[07:14] <TheSilentWarrior> w3ccv the .bin is the data, the .cue is the info on wat it is, how to mount/burn it, etc
[07:14] <__rob__> philo23, do you know the partition?
[07:14] <aled> un_operateur: thank you so much :D I installed that ATi driver and followed the guide and I can now use the log on screen and that erro doesn't come up but I still encounter an error that happend before
[07:14] <philo23> __rob__: the number, type; what about it
[07:14] <markoutthere> PriceChild you are a genius. Thanks for your help I am all up and running now, really enjoying Ubuntu.
[07:14] <__rob__> philo23, open a term:
[07:15] <philo23> __rob__: i know, but it give me this:  wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1
[07:15] <un_operateur> aled, which error comes up now?
[07:15] <TheSilentWarrior> povaddct almost done, this pc is slow xD 5 year old portable pc
[07:15] <__rob__> philo23 is it formatted?
[07:15] <philo23> __rob__: yes
[07:16] <philo23> __rob__: i just checked it under gparted now
[07:16] <aled> un_operateur: got a photo again from before: http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b134/einsteinshamster/STA60027.jpg that's what hapeens when I try to login normally
[07:16] <philo23> __rob__: its ext3
[07:16] <n2diy> _rob_, he installed Ubuntu, and then Windows.
[07:16] <LP396> hi, i was trying to install ubuntu 5.04 on a pentium 3
 try mount -t ext3
[07:17] <philo23> mots: still the same error
[07:17] <un_operateur> aled, from the terminal -- run this -- ls -l /etc/profile   -- tell us what you get
[07:17] <aled> un_operateur: ok will do
[07:17] <Lam_> how can i script a screen session to start up upon boot?
[07:17] <mots> nobody with devilspie-knowledge?
[07:18] <LP396> but it stops in sicronizing clock with  hardware clock
[07:18] <POVaddct> Lam_: you can start screen in detached mode from a init script
[07:18] <aled> un_operateur:  I get -rw--- (etc) 1 root root 369 and a date
[07:18] <cstextiles>  Trying to install Edubuntu 6.06  but it says There is No Ethernet card detected. But I have Ethernet Card with which i am accessing the Internet What is the solution?
[07:18] <__rob__> philo23, try this:  cat /dev/hda1 | file -
[07:19] <un_operateur> aled, ok, you need to give other users permissions to read -- sudo chmod a+r /etc/profile
[07:19] <Lam_> POVaddct: sounds like what i'm looking for. how do i go about doing that? i'm trying to load one command in my screen session: rtorrent
[07:19] <aled> un_operateur: ok :)
[07:19] <PriceChild> markoutthere, good to hear :D
[07:19] <POVaddct> Lam_: like this: su -c "/usr/bin/screen -d -m command_to_run_in_screen" - username
[07:20] <aled> un_operateur: shall I just try to login again now?
[07:20] <philo23> __rob__: it returns: /dev/stdin: ERROR: error while writing to temp file (No space left on device)
[07:20] <un_operateur> aled, yes please :)
[07:20] <POVaddct> Lam_: put this line a in a existing init script or write a new one and symlink to it from you default runlevel dir
[07:20] <Lam_> POVaddct: is the su -c necessary? what does it do? and this will load upon boot without the need to log in if i place it in /etc/rc.local, right?
[07:20] <PriceChild> markoutthere, maybe you could register on wiki.ubuntu.com and make a little wiki entry for enabling your savage driver? All that was guesswork and it wo uld be nice for others to have a point of reference
[07:20] <LP396> how to stop sncronizing clock from start?
[07:21] <POVaddct> Lam_: su -c ... - username is for running the screen session as non-root
[07:21] <__rob__> philo23, I can verify that my partition is in fact an ext3 partition by doing that.    I get /dev/stdin: Linux rev 1.0 ext3 filesystem data (needs journal recovery)
[07:21] <LP396> i cant enter ubuntu
[07:21] <Lam_> POVaddct: ah that's a good idea lol. i'll do that. thanks a lot for the help
[07:21] <philo23> __rob__: does this mean my partition is corrupt?
[07:21] <aled> un_operateur: thank you so much I really do appreciate your help and has hlped me learnt a lot and makes me want to learn a lot more with Linux and the CLI...now do you know anything about dual screens? :D
[07:21] <POVaddct> Lam_: you can later do   screen -r   as that user
[07:21] <un_operateur> aled, did that work alright now?
[07:22] <POVaddct> Lam_: so you can watch and control the session
[07:22] <__rob__> philo23, not necessarily .. live cd's are weird.
[07:22] <un_operateur> !xinerama | aled
[07:22] <ubotu> aled: xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[07:22] <Lam_> POVaddct: ok, great. thanks :)
[07:22] <aled> un_operateur: yup, got my normal screen back with the resolution I wanted :D
[07:22] <POVaddct> Lam_: screen just rocks! :)
[07:22] <philo23> __rob__: how else can i go about this then
[07:22] <__rob__> philo23, Do you have a /dev/hda1?
[07:22] <philo23> __rob__: yes
[07:22] <un_operateur> aled, glad to hear that :)
[07:22] <aled> un_operateur: thanks for the link as well
[07:22] <__rob__> philo23, How about a /dev/stdin?
[07:22] <Takuya> hey guys.. I've been following a bunch of guides and my wireless card just won't work properly. It's a BCM4306. I've used it many times before with other distros and ndiswrapper. I installed the drivers (bcmwl5.inf and bcmwl5.sys) and it just doesn't let me configure it.
[07:22] <un_operateur> aled, yw
[07:22] <Lam_> POVaddct: lol yeah definitely
[07:23] <philo23> __rob__: hda1 is ubuntu, hda2 is windows and hda3 is the ram space
[07:23] <aled> un_operateur: I'm guessing I can find stuff about networking and the CLI around the ubuntu wiki and help pages?
[07:23] <gop> !kde
[07:23] <LP396> i get a slave hdd error at start press f1 to resume, then ubuntu stops at clock sincronice
[07:23] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[07:23] <philo23> __rob__: not ram phyical, fake ram, like windows paging file
[07:23] <POVaddct> Lam_: the finest console tool ever. i use it with my own .screenrc with nice hardstatus bar.
[07:23] <thoreauputic> Takuya: if you are using ndiswrapper, you need to disable the bcm43xx driver
[07:23] <thoreauputic> Takuya: i think there's a wiki on it, see ubotu below
[07:23] <thoreauputic> !wifi
[07:24] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:24] <Takuya> Yeah, I just did that btw.
[07:24] <Takuya> I disaled the bcm43xx driver already
[07:24] <thoreauputic> Takuya: ah
[07:24] <Takuya> it displays something different in iwconfig
[07:24] <Takuya> but it still won't work
[07:24] <__rob__> philo23, dd if=/dev/hda1 | file -
[07:24] <Takuya> essid is "" and key is ""
[07:24] <un_operateur> aled, ubuntu as you know is mostly a desktop distro for the beginner user -- so the stuff you find in the wiki's is probably starter stuff or just that essential to help solve user problems .. if you want to learn you might want to explore further
[07:24] <Lam_> POVaddct: a hard status bar would be neat. is that a simple command flick in screenrc?
[07:24] <thoreauputic> Takuya: then I don't know. I installed bc43xx with firmware on a mac iBook
[07:24] <POVaddct> Lam_: wait, i'll paste it
[07:25] <Takuya> ndiswrapper -l displays bcmwl5 : driver installed hardware present
[07:25] <philo23> __rob__: dd: opening `/dev/hda1': Permission denied
[07:25] <philo23> /dev/stdin: empty
[07:25] <POVaddct> Lam_: hardstatus alwayslastline "%?%{wb}%-Lw%?%{Yb}%n*%f %t%?(%u)%?%?%{wb}%+Lw%?%{wb}%=%c"
[07:25] <__rob__> philo23, sudo
[07:25] <thanhlong> co ai la ng viet nam ko
[07:25] <philo23> __rob__: k
[07:25] <POVaddct> Lam_: a bit cryptic, though :)
[07:25] <Lam_> POVaddct: lol obviously.  thanks again :)
[07:25] <aled> un_operateur: hmm, ok, I'm mainly interested in setting up and administrating a network for fun really, so maybe I'll need to find a better networking based distro. You know the dual screens thing, it requires me to edit the xorg.conf file and I'm afraid I'll undo the changes I did before
[07:25] <phatlip_> can ubuntu partition an os x drive?
[07:26] <phatlip_> i want to install on my powerbook - but keep my os x install as well.
[07:26] <philo23> __rob__: /dev/stdin: ERROR: error while writing to temp file (No space left on device)
[07:26] <mutante> aled: make a backup copy of the conf file before?
[07:26] <Zambezi> Which is the best application for playing movies in Ubuntu?
[07:26] <daggerx> xine
[07:26] <thoreauputic> !vn| thanhlong
[07:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:26] <thoreauputic> hmm
[07:26] <thanhlong> yes
[07:26] <aled> mutante: good idea, so rename it, make a new one and if all goes wrong rename the original again to xorg.conf in the CLI?
[07:27] <mutante> aled: sure, yes
[07:27] <thoreauputic> no vietnamese channel?
[07:27] <Takuya> It won't let me change the settings of my card...
[07:27] <mutante> aled: cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.orig
[07:27] <__rob__> philo23, hrm.
[07:27] <Takuya> I ran sudo iwconfig eth1 essid MYESSID key MYKEY
[07:27] <n2diy> ubotu, vietnamese
[07:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vietnamese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:27] <Takuya> and it won't save them.
[07:27] <whyameye> Am I understanding that people are advising aled against ubuntu for network admin? Weird...
[07:27] <un_operateur> aled, you probably learn best if you do things step by step -- eg a web server one day, nfs another, mail, etc etc -- as for xorg.conf -- make a backup of it before editing it -- and just go for it -- you need to make a few mistakes :) whats the harm in trying if you have a contingency ? :)
[07:27] <__rob__> philo23, do that with /dev/hda2
[07:28] <thanhlong> channel vn
[07:28] <thanhlong> ?????????//
[07:28] <aled> whyameye: no I just said that sorry lol
[07:28] <thanhlong> where
[07:28] <thanhlong> name???????
[07:28] <[-Frost-] > Hi
[07:28] <philo23> __rob__: bash: cd: /dev/stdin: Not a directory, just tried cd to /dev/stdin, seems it doesnt exist
[07:28] <exs> does anyone know how to safely remove all of office apps?
[07:28] <thoreauputic> thanhlong: appears not to exist
[07:28] <aled> un_operateur: good point, I'll learn from my mistakes anyways :)
[07:28] <aled> mutante: what does that do? Copy it and rename the copy?
[07:28] <un_operateur> aled, i'm sure you will :)
[07:28] <__rob__> philo23, ls -al /dev/stdin
[07:28] <mutante> aled: yes
[07:29] <aled> ah ok :)_
[07:29] <philo23> __rob__: /dev/stdin: ERROR: error while writing to temp file (No space left on device)
[07:29] <mutante> aled: then you can edit xorg.conf, and if things go wrong, copy it back the other way around
[07:29] <philo23> __rob__: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 2006-12-23 17:55 /dev/stdin -> /proc/self/fd/0
[07:29] <thanhlong> you say
[07:29] <daggerx> im trying to send a quotation to a file using echo... how do i do that?
[07:29] <aled> mutante: genius thanks :P
[07:30] <un_operateur> daggerx, echo "\""
[07:30] <saxofoner> mnoir: Hey, everything seems to be hunky dory.  Thanks for your help!
[07:30] <__rob__> philo23, mount | grep proc
[07:30] <un_operateur> saxofoner, you the one with the nautilus problem no?
[07:30] <saxofoner> yep
[07:30] <daggerx> ie i want to put      option "composite" "0"  in a script to write it to xorg.conf
[07:30] <TheSilentWarrior> povaddct hi, finished installing
[07:30] <w3ccv> mutante, an SE from Sun once advised me to "mv xorg.conf xorg.conf.orig ; cp xorg.conf.conf xorg"  That will preserver all permissions, owners, goups, times  of the original file. These could be important. You loose them on a copy
[07:30] <philo23> __rob__: proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[07:30] <philo23> procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[07:30] <gop> any one here know
[07:30] <gop> why I keep getting this error
[07:31] <gop>  Virtual ethernet                                                   failed
[07:31] <gop> Unable to stop services for VMware Workstation
[07:31] <TheSilentWarrior> povaddct it needs a reboot, so, be right back ok?
[07:31] <un_operateur> saxofoner, well, we were going through one of the pastebins you posted -- seems like you might have a potential problem
[07:31] <mutante> aled: listen to what w3ccv said :p
[07:31] <un_operateur> saxofoner, you on edgy right?
[07:31] <saxofoner> un_operateur:  That interruption of the upgrade I told you about, it was apparently fatal, so I totally reinstalled Ubuntu.  I'm on Dapper.
[07:31] <gop> I am unsure I did but after a reboot vmware is down
[07:31] <saxofoner> It's allll good now.
[07:31] <aled> mutante: ah ok thanks :)
[07:31] <un_operateur> saxofoner, you reinstalled?? :o
[07:31] <aled> w3ccv: thanks :)
[07:31] <__rob__> philo23, I'm thinking it's just a livecd issue.
[07:31] <saxofoner> un_operateur:  Yep.  I have a dual-boot system, so all my data is intact
[07:32] <gop> I keep getting error with vmware
[07:32] <philo23> __rob__: then how can i back up all my stuff with out mounting the hdd
[07:32] <|thunder> !paste
[07:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:32] <thoreauputic> saxofoner: looked like you were missing some lines in  /etc/apt/sources.list ( you had dapper lines in there)
[07:32] <__rob__> philo23, you weren't using lvm, were you?
[07:32] <philo23> __rob__: lvm?
[07:32] <un_operateur> saxofoner, ahh well, nevermind then -- we found out why you probably couldnt upgrade totally -- you still had sources for dapper in your sources.list and your edgy sources probably werent complete
[07:32] <w3ccv> aled, most of the time everything works, but this for that extra safety in case it doesn't  Some file for security depend on certian permissions.
[07:32] <thoreauputic> saxofoner: but if you reinstalled dapper, so be it :)
[07:33] <__rob__> philo23, logical volume manager
[07:33] <saxofoner> thoreauputic: Yeah, I was planning on doing it soon anyway, so it's all good.
[07:33] <saxofoner> I like getting a clean start every now and then
[07:33] <philo23> __rob__: not sure if i did, but i think i didnt
[07:33] <__rob__> philo23, You have a knoppix CD lying around?
[07:33] <philo23> __rob__: want me to look at GParted?
[07:33] <un_operateur> saxofoner, that practise usually only happens in the windows world :)
[07:34] <philo23> __rob__: nope :(
[07:34] <philo23> __rob__: my other pc doesnt have a cd burner ether
[07:34] <__rob__> philo23, and you're using the ubuntu live cd.
[07:34] <timo901> can any one help in controling xmms player using my mce remote
[07:34] <philo23> __rob__: yes
[07:35] <un_operateur> !mce
[07:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mce - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:35] <dark> ping all
[07:35] <__rob__> philo23, I'm going to boot into the livecd ....
[07:35] <dark> to all of ya ubuntu users
[07:35] <admin_> Here is dmesg for my SD card, It wont mount, I think i have to  reformat it, but how would I do that since I dont even know if  its mounted? http://pastebin.com/843847
[07:35] <dark> so waz up
[07:35] <philo23> __rok
[07:36] <Takuya> I have done all the steps to get the driver and card ready for use with ndiswrapper, but none if my settings stick
[07:36] <un_operateur> timo901, any idea what the make of the remote is?
[07:36] <Takuya> iwconfig and ifconfig both show 'eth1' but I can't actualyl use it
[07:36] <saxofoner> un_operateur:  really?  Hm... That reminds me, I should check if Windows can still boot... :-P
[07:36] <Takuya> I've tried running iwconfig eth1 essid MY_ESSID key MY_KEY
[07:36] <Takuya> and it just doesn't work.
[07:36] <timo901> un_operateur:its called the new verision ,
[07:36] <whyameye> Takuya: is the ESSID of the router hidden?
[07:37] <Takuya> it shouldn't be. let me check.
[07:37] <timo901> model 1039
[07:37] <mm2000_laptop> hello, any idea how to install nxserver in an easy way? (apt-get)
[07:37] <Takuya> no it is set to broadcast it
[07:38] <phatlip_> Takuya: using sudo?
[07:38] <Takuya> yep
[07:38] <un_operateur> timo901, is this it? http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MCE_Remote
[07:38] <w3ccv> Takuya, is your AP running WEP
[07:38] <Takuya> yeah
[07:38] <Takuya> my router has 64 bit 10key hex
[07:38] <thoreauputic> Takuya: do you have gnome-network-manager installed ? It can conflict with the traditional methods
[07:38] <timo901> http://www.eirikso.com/images/MCE-Remote-Media-Center.jpg
[07:39] <[GuS] > hi!
[07:39] <Takuya> nope, thoreauputic only gnome-network-preferences
[07:39] <timo901> yeh
[07:39] <w3ccv> Takuya, try entering your key in the format nnnn-nnnn-nn
[07:39] <timo901> version 2
[07:39] <thoreauputic> Takuya: OK
[07:40] <timo901> un_operateur:i have tryed that
[07:40] <timo901> i get an error about my directorry
[07:41] <un_operateur> timo901, ok, saying what?
[07:41] <Takuya> any ideas?
[07:42] <Takuya> the frequency is correct too
[07:42] <timo901> un_operateur: first i cd to /usr/src/lirc-0.8.0
[07:42] <timo901> them make
[07:43] <timo901> then make install
[07:43] <un_operateur> timo -- are these the instructions as per the INSTALL file in the same directory??
[07:43] <Takuya> meh this is just not working lol
[07:43] <un_operateur> timo901, because usually you need to run a ./configure first  -- and there might be other steps you need to take
[07:44] <cstextiles> lTruying to install Edubuntu 6.06 Server  but it says There is No Ethernet card detected. But I have Ethernet Card with which i am accessing the Internet
[07:44] <instant> Takuya, Have you tried "sudo iwconfig eth1 enc YOUR_KEY"
[07:44] <hjmills> anybody play half life 2 or ne steam games on cedega with ubuntu/
[07:44] <Feral_Kid> I am getting ready to switch back to 6.10 64-bit... If there a way to take the dpkg -l listing and use that to automatically re-install all of my packages?
[07:44] <timo901> un_operateur:i had done that ,sorrry i wasnt very clear
[07:44] <un_operateur> timo901, why don't you have a try now -- see what errors you get, i'd like to see how it works too :)
[07:45] <Takuya> no but it didn't do anything when I did
[07:45] <Takuya> but then it had the wrong frequency
[07:45] <__rob__> philo23, Okay... I just booted into it and it worked for me.....
[07:45] <Takuya> what is the order I should use iwconfig commads in?
[07:45] <timo901> ./configure workes ok
[07:45] <Takuya> iwconfig eth1 essid ESSID enc KEY channel CHANNEL
[07:45] <Takuya> ?
[07:45] <philo23> __rob__: weird, i've done it before, but now it wont
[07:46] <__rob__> philo23, what's your swap partition.
[07:46] <un_operateur> timo901, first things first -- read the README and INSTALL files
[07:46] <philo23> __rob__: what do you mean?
[07:46] <timo901> i think i know were i was going wrong
[07:46] <thoreauputic> Feral_Kid:  sudo dpkg --get-slections > listfile
[07:46] <timo901> i did read it lol
[07:46] <thoreauputic> oops
[07:46] <__rob__> Do you have a swap partition for ubuntu?
[07:46] <un_operateur> timo901, they'll have information on any obscure steps you might need to take
[07:46] <__rob__> philo23, Do you have a swap partition for ubuntu?
[07:46] <philo23> __rob__: /dev/hda3 is extended and /dev/hda5 sits inside it as swap
[07:46] <timo901> You will have to use the lirc_mceusb2 kernel module.
[07:46] <timo901> Now enter 'make' and 'make install' to compile and install the packa
[07:46] <thoreauputic> Feral_Kid:  dpkg --get-selections I meant
[07:47] <__rob__> philo23, Okay.... sudo swapon /dev/hda5
[07:47] <Takuya> when I run iwlist eth1 key
[07:47] <thoreauputic> Feral_Kid: you can use --set-selections from that file
[07:47] <Takuya> it has my key available under 1 and tramist key is set to 1
[07:47] <timo901> un_operateur:i have found a file that relates to my tv-card remote
[07:48] <philo23> __rob__: swapon: /dev/hda5: Device or resource busy, if your trying to mount it, i think its already, if i go by GParted, it says its locked
[07:48] <philo23> __rob__: my swap is 2.58 gb, if that makes a difference
[07:48] <Feral_Kid> thoreauputic> Thanks, so I first get need to do a 'dpkg -l  > files.txt and then when I re-load my 64-bit, I then do the ' dpkg --get-selections files.txt?
[07:48] <philo23> __rob__: i can mount the windows HDD partition, but not the ubuntu one
[07:49] <thoreauputic> Feral_Kid: no, use  sudo dpkg --get-selections > filename
[07:49] <thoreauputic> Feral_Kid: you can look at that file - you will see the list
[07:49] <Takuya> it looks to be set and everything.. but it just won't use the essid or something
[07:49] <thoreauputic> Feral_Kid: it's all in man dpkg :)
[07:49] <n2diy> I have a laptop which currently has FC1 installed on it, and I'd like to install Ubuntu on to it. The system won't boot from the CD drive, and it has no floppy drive, ideas?
[07:50] <stefg> Feral_Kid: sudo dpkg --get-selections > selections.lst ... then read it back with dpkg --set-selections < selections.lst
[07:50] <__rob__> philo23, I'm thinking it's corrupted.... I thinking about how to prove whether or not it is.
[07:50] <bulmer> n2diy: can it boot from a usb?
[07:50] <philo23> __rob__: i hope it isnt, theres alot of stuff on there i need
[07:50] <Takuya> I've tried everything.
[07:50] <thoreauputic> Feral_Kid: dpkg --set-selections is the reverse IIRC
[07:50] <n2diy> bulmer: nope
[07:50] <philo23> __rob__: and i have around 80% backed up
[07:50] <w3ccv> Takuya, I suggest turning the encryption on the WAP off tiellyou can connect - try one problem at a time. Dont leave it that way for long - keep others out .
[07:50] <n2diy> bulmer: no usb ports
[07:51] <see-g> n2diy: you can probably install Ubuntu from within a chroot environment? I've never done that but people say it works...
[07:51] <__rob__> philo23, There's always fsck
[07:51] <w3ccv> Takuya, s/tiellyou/ till you/
[07:51] <Takuya> but I have like a lot of other computers connected through WEP
[07:51] <POVaddct> n2diy: if it has no usb ports, its rather old, right?
[07:51] <philo23> __rob__: fsck?
[07:51] <bulmer> n2diy it wont boot because it never had or it does not have a cdrom?
[07:51] <n2diy> POVaddct: umm, yes.
[07:51] <POVaddct> n2diy: how much RAM does it have?
[07:51] <philo23> !fsck
[07:51] <ubotu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[07:52] <accept> Can someone please send me the OpenOffice.org Ubuntu default icons. The ones that are like a little circle? Please!?
[07:52] <n2diy> POVaddct: 196  meg
[07:52] <POVaddct> n2diy: okay
[07:52] <Takuya> when I run iwconfig it says eth1.. and everything is correct but the ESSID
[07:52] <Takuya> the key, frequency, and mode...
[07:52] <POVaddct> n2diy: it does not boot from cd at all or just not from the ubuntu cd?
[07:52] <bulmer> n2diy: you can attempt a network install..assuming your nic card can handle boot over pxe
[07:53] <FluxAR> Hello folks, I have a problem in my Ubuntu 6.10. Every time I run some Python scripts I get a dialog saying "Warning: Mailcap file /etc/mailcap, line 45: incomplete entry ignored." ... What can I do? Thank you!
[07:53] <Takuya> and when I run scan it doesn't find anything
[07:53] <n2diy> POVaddct: Bios doesn't support booting from CD.
[07:53] <__rob__> philo23, fsck /dev/hda1
[07:53] <stefg> !smartbootmanager
[07:53] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[07:53] <w3ccv> Takuya, oh,  can you do without them for a while, just long enough to test  your Ubunto connections.  Something ot think about.  Uncucomented - the key looks like it should be in the format nnnn-nnnn-nn (or nnnn-nnnn-nnnn-nnnn-nnnn-nnnn-nn for 128bit)
[07:53] <Feral_Kid> thoreauputic & stefg: Thanks, I just looked at the file generated and now I understand!!! Cool, this will save me a lot of heartache... Will happens to the true 32-bit applications, for instance Skype, Gizmo and Flash...
[07:53] <accept> please
[07:53] <accept> :(
[07:53] <POVaddct> n2diy: hmm. and no floppy either, thats bad. how was fc1 installed?
[07:54] <Takuya> pccardctl ident shows nothing btw.
[07:54] <n2diy> bulmer: I can't get the network card working. :/
[07:54] <Takuya> yeah w3ccv it shows up like that in iwlist
[07:54] <Takuya> encryption key: XXXX-XXX-XX
[07:54] <thoreauputic> Feral_Kid: I assume any inappropriate files just won't install
[07:54] <bulmer> n2diy: it seems about time for a newer laptop..
[07:54] <w3ccv> Takuya, good.
[07:54] <n2diy> POVaddct:  I put a minimal dos system on it, and then ran Fedoras install script off the cd.
[07:54] <philo23> __rob__: its says "Group descriptors" but its only just started, still running, i'll give you it all in a paste bin in a sec
[07:55] <__rob__> philo23, did you install windows after ubuntu?
[07:55] <POVaddct> n2diy: and how did you install dos? what were you booting from?
[07:55] <un_operateur> FluxAR, you could see why line 45 of /etc/mailcap is incomplete -- and take it from there
[07:55] <philo23> __rob__: yes, unfortunatly
[07:55] <n2diy> POVaddct:  floppy disk, the CD and Floppy share the same bay, so it is one or the other.
[07:55] <accept> can someone please...
[07:55] <POVaddct> n2diy: i see
[07:56] <Feral_Kid> thoreauputic> Well, I can deal with that... I always seem to have issue with rebuilding 32-bit application on 64-bit... It is a damn shame... I blew away 64 just in order to get fglrx working correctly... Now I am ready to go back to 64- bit edgy..
[07:56] <n2diy> bulmer: I'm looking for a cheap fix
[07:56] <thoreauputic> Feral_Kid: have fun :)
[07:56] <bulmer> okay
[07:56] <Takuya> my bus looks ok, with 0 being linked to 1 and 2.
[07:56] <stefg> n2diy: that's nasty...
[07:56] <POVaddct> n2diy: there is a boot manager (sbm) that can be installed to hard disk allowing to boot from cd even if the bios does not support it
[07:56] <philo23> __rob__: i've noticed it says "/dev/hda1 was not cleanly unmounted, check forced."
[07:57] <un_operateur> n2diy, have you checked this out ?  http://www.underhanded.org/papers/debian-conversion/remotedeb.html
[07:57] <Dj-Death> hi all
[07:57] <SF100> Hi can someone help me out?
[07:57] <POVaddct> n2diy: http://btmgr.sourceforge.net/download.html
[07:57] <n2diy> POVaddct: roger on sbm.
[07:57] <Dj-Death> is there the s2ram utility in ubuntu ?
[07:57] <SF100> I was playing with screen savers and when I was looking through the choices I clicked on "Molecule" on the preview window it says "Constructing molecules..." and just hangs and allows me to do nothing else. I cannot access or do anything except move the mouse. No menus or anything, I powered down and when I went back to screen savers it is on Molecule and does the same thing. How can I change the screen saver without going into this screen s
[07:57] <__rob__> philo23, that's good.
[07:57] <n2diy> un_operateur: no I haven't, I'll go have a look now.
[07:57] <__rob__> philo23, did it say ext3?
[07:57] <philo23> __rob__: it also asks if i want to "Free blocks count wrong for group #1 (0, counted=1)."
[07:58] <philo23> __rob__: it doesnt say atal
[07:58] <timo901> POVaddct:hi
[07:58] <philo23> __rob__: then saying if i want to correct it
[07:58] <POVaddct> hi timo901
[07:58] <timo901> hows it going man
[07:58] <__rob__> philo23, before you answer yes...
[07:58] <lunaphyte> hi
[07:58] <Lam_> how do i set the time correctly in ubuntu server?
[07:58] <__rob__> philo23, put what you have in a pastebin
[07:59] <POVaddct> timo901: well, i am at my parents place over christmas
[07:59] <POVaddct> timo901: and they have dsl and wlan here :)
[07:59] <timo901> POVaddct:You have no shame man
[07:59] <whyameye> SF100: the things I would try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure <name-of-screensaver-package>. If that doesn't work, completely remove then reinstall the screensave package w/ synaptic.
[07:59] <FluxAR> un_operateur, thank you very much! I solved my problem!!! Thanks!
[07:59] <tonyyarusso> Lam_: ntpdate
[08:00] <SF100> whyameye: thanks ill try that now
[08:00] <timo901> POVaddct:you wouldn't go if they didn't have any Internet
[08:00] <philo23> __rob__: k
[08:00] <POVaddct> timo901: hehe, no i would. but earlier this year i fixed the wireless connection for them.
[08:01] <Nontitle> !seamonkey
[08:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seamonkey - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:01] <KeenEars> hey there =)
[08:01] <Nontitle> has anyone with firefox 2.0 tried going on gmail lately?
[08:01] <Lam_> tonyyarusso: i run that and it syncs and all, but upon reboot, it doesn't stick
[08:01] <timo901> POVaddct:your not fooling any one.
[08:01] <philo23> __rob__: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/843855
[08:02] <tonyyarusso> Lam_: hmm...that's odd
[08:02] <timo901> POVaddct:i have some lirc problem here man
[08:02] <__rob__> philo23, Yes... it looks like it is in fact corrupted.
[08:02] <POVaddct> timo901: i don't know anything about lirc
[08:03] <__rob__> philo23, so fsck is now the proper path.
[08:03] <philo23> __rob__: should i try rebooting now?
[08:03] <billytwowilly> so, I don't see an explicitly smp kernel. Is the default kernel in edgy smp enabled?
[08:03] <__rob__> philo23, No.
[08:03] <Shocka311> Any one know how to increase my cash size?
[08:03] <philo23> __rob__: what now then?
[08:03] <dwightintx> Ive got a freshly installed desktop machine that Im trying to access the gui from a windows machine, I have vnc-server installed , and I installed realvnc on the windows box, but when I launch the viewer, I get a blank screen.  What things should I check.  or is my approach wrong?
[08:04] <whyameye> billytwowilly: it is in dapper so I imagine it is in edgy...
[08:04] <idlemind> shocka311: your CACHE size?
[08:04] <POVaddct> away bin wech
[08:04] <POVaddct> oops
[08:04] <Shocka311> CACHE i mean
[08:04] <Lam_> tonyyarusso: maybe i'm using it wrong. this is what i entered: $ sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org
[08:04] <KeenEars> go to the bank
[08:04] <__rob__> philo23, well... at this point it looks like you may have possibly lost data.
[08:04] <idlemind> shocka311: do you mean something like your "swap" partition (windows term: page file)?
[08:04] <timo901> damn I'm off to google again
[08:04] <philo23> __rob__: i just tried mounting HDA1, it worked
[08:04] <tonyyarusso> Lam_: I don't know the particular server, but yes, 'sudo ntpdate server.address' is correct.
[08:04] <philo23> __rob__: i'll go check out the damage
[08:04] <dan2> is there a package for java6 in ubuntu yet?
[08:04] <Lam_> tonyyarusso: ok i'll just play with it some more. thanks for the help
[08:04] <timo901> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/843835
[08:05] <KeenEars> can someone remind me how i can tune samba by means of gnome ? forgot which app makes it
[08:05] <__rob__> philo23, lost blocks are usually in lost+found
[08:05] <dwightintx> can anyone help me with a vnc issue?
[08:05] <Shocka311> I don't know really.  my computer is real slow so I added some ram and I read somewhere that on linux adding ram won't help alone, you also have to increase your cache size.
[08:05] <philo23> __rob__: it seems all my important stuff is availible, i'll back it up then install windows then ubuntu again
[08:05] <philo23> __rob__: would that be ok?
[08:06] <__rob__> philo23, yes... that would be appropriate now.
[08:06] <Takuya> ok so.. it just won't use my essid. lol
[08:06] <__rob__> philo23, I think if I remember correctly windows mucks with all partitions even ones that it doesn't install to.
[08:07] <lunaphyte> after i did an apt-get dist-upgrade, apt-get dist-upgrade says "the following packages have been kept back:", and a bunch of python packages are listed.  why is this?
[08:07] <SF100> whyameye: thanks again I got it
[08:07] <KeenEars> and also - can i delete openoffice - it asks to uninstall ubuntu-desktop too =(
[08:07] <SF100> have a happy holiday everyone
[08:08] <auk_> lunaphyte, this is because some versions have compatability issues with other packages
[08:08] <ecastro> hi, im just trying to install ubuntu edgy but when i reach the step where i have to define the different mount point for each partition i cant continue because the installer says "no root file system", but i have already set one partition with "/" mount point
[08:08] <philo23> __rob__: thanks for the help, you've let me sleep easy tonight, knowing all my stuff is safely backed up
[08:08] <__rob__> philo23, np
[08:08] <KeenEars> what fs on / ?
[08:08] <auk_> lunaphyte, it's best to fix those sort of errors in the long run, or else you may get real problems later on
[08:08] <n2diy> POVaddct: SPM is in the repos, and the latest version no less!
[08:08] <n2diy> SPM/SBM
[08:09] <lunaphyte> auk_: how can i determine where the compatibility issues are?
[08:09] <Takuya> hmm this is flumoxxed.
[08:09] <philo23> __rob__: would there be a way to back up my deb package lists?
[08:09] <auk_> lunaphyte, run apt-get upgrade (notice there is not dist-)
[08:09] <ecastro> anyone?!
[08:09] <mips> hi
[08:09] <auk_> lunaphyte: err, i don't know how to specifically determine the conflicts
[08:09] <lunaphyte> auk_: it says the same thing if i do apt-get upgrade
[08:09] <__rob__> Yes.... thought I'm not a dpkg expert.  The trick is to tell dpkg the new root directory.
[08:09] <Shocka311> idlemind: my computer is real slow so I added some ram and I read somewhere that on linux adding ram won't help alone, you also have to increase your cache size.
[08:10] <philo23> __rob__: thanks, i'll google it
[08:10] <__rob__> there's also a manpage.
[08:10] <philo23> __rob__: i just needed the name (dpkg) :P forgot it
[08:10] <lunaphyte> --ignore-hold ?
[08:10] <Takuya> I followed like 3 or 4 of these darned wireless networking guides
[08:10] <Takuya> none of them work fully. :/
[08:10] <rpereira> Shocka311: That's wrong!
[08:10] <idlemind> shocka311: ahh; that should've increased performance some; RAM helps speed up your computer in certain scenarios; what's your processor speed?
[08:10] <Takuya> I KNOW my card works because I've used multiple distros including linux from scratch with it
[08:10] <Takuya> and I've used ubuntu before.
[08:10] <crowley1027> has anyone had problems with the myspace music player running linux?
[08:11] <__rob__> any fglrx and xorg experts out there?
[08:11] <agent> what ibm keyboard keys correspond to mod2 and mod3?
[08:11] <Shocka311> Pentium 3
[08:11] <whyameye> crowley1027: you have flash9 installed?
[08:11] <rpereira> Shocka311: I've already increase my pc performance creating Swap on Pendrive.
[08:11] <n2diy> what is the syntax to tell apt-get to get a package, but not install it?
[08:11] <__rob__> How about fglrx and xorg amatuers?
[08:11] <crowley1027> flash --versin?
[08:11] <Takuya> If I can't get it I might just use a different distro. :|
[08:11] <crowley1027> flash --version?
[08:11] <exs> guys, how do i safely and easily back up my system?
[08:11] <KeenEars> there`s a channel for gl
[08:11] <Shocka311> Rpereira: how do you do that and what does that mean?
[08:11] <KeenEars> aixgl iirc
[08:12] <crowley1027> how do i check my flash version
[08:12] <__rob__> Actually it's the xvideo extension.
[08:12] <agent> Takuya: if you had the card working with LFS then it should be pretty straightforward to get it working with ubuntu, yes? if worse comes to worse, just repeat the steps from LFS :)
[08:12] <n2diy> exs, for a bare metal recovery, or just to save your stuff?
[08:12] <Takuya> lol, agent I did it all from CLI and usually it works fine.
[08:12] <Takuya> but for some reason iwconfig won't take my essid
[08:12] <crowley1027> How do I check my flash version?
[08:12] <Takuya> whoa.
[08:12] <Takuya> the interface changed
[08:12] <Takuya> now it's wlan0
[08:13] <agent> Takuya: :D
[08:13] <Takuya> well that might be a good thing I think.
[08:13] <Takuya> lols. it was eth1 before
[08:13] <rpereira> Shocka311: The slowest device in our computer is our HD. So if you increase memory, you will stop using SWAP on HD.
[08:13] <agent> Takuya: its goofy like that... not even sure what exactly assigns these things... whether its the module or something else
[08:13] <crowley1027> How do i check my flash version??
[08:14] <n1gke> n2diy: Have you read the apt-how-to ?
[08:14] <Takuya> but it still won't take the essid
[08:14] <Takuya> :/
[08:14] <petafile> I"m running linuxmint and I restarted my computer and It looked like it was checking the filesystems, but then it hung.  It said checking root fs, OK, then fsck version /info then it gave me some modprobe warnings about a blacklisted ipv6 modules and then it seemed to hang
[08:14] <agent> Takuya: what module are you loading?
[08:14] <rpereira> Shocka311: Of course your Cache is faster than your RAM, but the difference between HD and RAM is stupendus....
[08:14] <Takuya> ndiswrapper?
[08:14] <n1gke> n2diy: I have it here somewhere and it is most helpful.
[08:14] <n2diy> n1gke, nope, I'm busy reading IRC. :)
[08:14] <crowley1027> how do i check my flash version?
[08:14] <agent> Takuya: oh.... then i have no clue.. never used ndiswrapper
[08:14] <Takuya> lol.
[08:14] <stefg> rpereira: keep in mond thta flash memory a.) is slower than hd b.) has a limited number of read-write cycles... it's generally a bad idea using flash memory for swap
[08:14] <thoreauputic> crowley1027: how did you install it?
[08:15] <n1gke> n2diy: Okay OM, here is Myrton in Hope, RI. FN42fr and also using APRS.
[08:15] <crowley1027> not sure
[08:15] <crowley1027> i think without the terminal.
[08:15] <agent> Takuya: ndiswrapper is like wine... for the "ooops i buy hardware that only works in windows" crowd ;)
[08:15] <crowley1027> i don't know if i have flash9 or not
[08:15] <crowley1027> how do icheck?
[08:15] <rpereira> stefg: Flash memory is faster than my HD.
[08:15] <Takuya> yeah I know
[08:15] <ecastro> please help! i totally stucked!
[08:15] <w3ccv> n1gke, here is w3ccv - mike in Columbia MD
[08:16] <rpereira> I have a PC (not my notebook) that has a ATA disk 10GB.
[08:16] <Takuya> agent, I've used ndiswrapper for like 3 years on totally different distros
[08:16] <n2diy> n1gke, rr, Lansford, PA FN20bt, the APRS software was just fired up.
[08:16] <Takuya> from slack to LFS to ubuntu
[08:16] <thoreauputic> crowley1027: if you installed it using apt/synaptic etc, it isn't the beta 9 version afaik
[08:16] <Takuya> but it just won't work on edgy eft
[08:16] <Takuya> and I'm about to give up lol
[08:16] <Shocka311> Rpereira: I have a 10 gig HD and I just tried to add a slave HD but I'm having problems accessing the slave. I've formatted it several times and it leavs a lost and found file from before the format and It won't let me erase it. It won't let me write anything to it or even look at the file.  It says I am not the owner and I do not have permission to view or change the file.
[08:16] <rpereira> stefg: I have a PC (not my notebook) that has a ATA disk 10GB.
[08:16] <crowley1027> i dont think i did it that way.
[08:16] <agent> Takuya: you compiled it from source, right?
[08:16] <crowley1027> i don't know :'(
[08:16] <crowley1027> how do i upgrade to flash9
[08:16] <thoreauputic> crowley1027: also there's a recent one on the adobe site that came out in November IIRC
[08:16] <n1gke> w3ccv: Greetings and salutations from RI OM.
[08:16] <Takuya> agent no
[08:16] <agent> Takuya: is the wlan card removable?
[08:16] <Takuya> I installed it from CD.
[08:16] <Takuya> yeah it's a PCI card
[08:17] <crowley1027> thoreauputic: can you give me the link to install flash9?
[08:17] <agent> Takuya: 1) try to compile it or 2) get newest version from repo
[08:17] <crowley1027> thoreauputic: and tell me how to remove the old flash before i install flash9?
[08:17] <agent> Takuya: but if its removable, just replace it with a normal linux friendly card and be done with it - heck, you can even sell it after you get the new one
[08:17] <hjmills> anybody play half life 2 or ne steam games on cedega with ubuntu?
[08:17] <agent> Takuya: its just easier like that :)
[08:18] <w3ccv> Shocka311, lost+found is mormally 700 root.  No need for anybody else to use it.
[08:18] <Takuya> agent not THAT easy, my dad bought it with his money for all our comps. :p
[08:18] <rpereira> Shocka311: You have to create a directory as root and set permission to you... Do you want to do using Graphical Interface or Terminal?
[08:18] <Takuya> I might have the wrong .sys dirver though
[08:18] <Takuya> *driver
[08:18] <Takuya> I'll try reinstalling it from my CD
[08:18] <agent> Takuya: or if you want encouragement, do what i did, "accidently" step on and throw your windows hardware ;P
[08:19] <thoreauputic> crowley1027: it depends how you installed it ( removal) the linux flash beta is available from http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer9/
[08:19] <rpereira> Shocka311: Lost and Found is ok on EXT partition.
[08:19] <Takuya> lol
[08:19] <agent> Takuya: i see, well, having the correct driver would help ;)
[08:19] <crowley1027> i installed it by downloading the package.
[08:19] <rpereira> Shocka311: And like w3ccv said, it's ok that permission.
[08:19] <violot> Why doesn't Alt+F2/Alt+F1 and whatnot change ttys anymore?
[08:19] <Shocka311> Rpereira: if you can guide mw through it i'd love to use terminal.  I'm trying to learn how.
[08:19] <KeenEars> people ! can i delete openoffice org and not ruin my desktop ?
[08:20] <agent> Takuya: i had my hardware destruction day years ago.... now i never buy any non-linux friendly hardware and and am missing nothing
[08:20] <h3xis> KeenEars, yes
[08:20] <KeenEars> tried to force it with dpkg -r but no success
[08:20] <n1gke> n2diy: Have we worked b/4 via c.w. ?? Your QRA is very familiar. . .
[08:20] <thoreauputic> crowley1027: if you installed with the package manager , uninstall the package. If not, look in the directory you installed it to ( either ~/.mozilla/plugins or the global directory for firefox plugins
[08:20] <kitche> violot: it does your probably in X which needs ctrl+alt+F1
[08:20] <KeenEars> it tries to delyte ubuntu-destop
[08:20] <n2diy> n1gke, same setup here dual 333mhz PIIIs.
[08:20] <agent> KeenEars: yes, just remove it... it will remove ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop but those are just empty packages there to make sure everything is installed when you upgrade
[08:20] <violot> kitche, that doesn't work
[08:20] <LinTux> what is the best HTML WYSIWYG editor for Linux
[08:21] <Takuya> found the cd
[08:21] <n2diy> n1gke, unlikely, I don't work much CW.
[08:21] <n1gke> n2diy: Cool. I have a HP Kayak, dual 750 Mhz CPU and dual monitors.
[08:21] <petafile> Any idea what's causing my comp to hang at boot?  Its after fsck and a warning about blacklisted ipv6 module.  When I hit ctrl-alt-delete it says processes rc5 and rc6 were killed by signal 15, then it runs fine
[08:21] <violot> kitche, nevermind, my bad
[08:21] <violot> Thanks
[08:21] <violot> XD
[08:21] <KeenEars> ok
[08:21] <agent> LinTux: what is the best chocolate?
[08:21] <n1gke> Must be anothe diy then.... ..
[08:21] <KeenEars> thanx. i used to think it`s metapackage but wasn`t sure
[08:21] <rpereira> Shocka311: OK. What is the name of your partition, or better where is mounted?
[08:21] <LinTux> ok then agent which do you recommend
[08:21] <n2diy> n1gke, hardware here is IBM MPro Intellistation, stand monitor setup.
[08:21] <thoreauputic> LinTux: you might like nvu
[08:21] <agent> KeenEars: thats what a metapackage is: empty package that makes sure other packages are installed
[08:22] <Shocka311> Rpereira: I've tried to use the graphical interface to reformat it with /root as the acessable
[08:22] <thoreauputic> !info nvu
[08:22] <ubotu> nvu: Complete Web Authoring System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0final-2ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 8373 kB, installed size 26448 kB
[08:22] <Shocka311> Rpereira:  I don't know, how do I look at that?
[08:22] <KeenEars> thnx again. what a crowdy room
[08:22] <LinTux> cheers
[08:22] <n1gke> n2diy: rgr
[08:22] <Shocka311> Rpereira: I'm way new to linux
[08:22] <agent> LinTux: none really, i do it by hand (professionally) - but try nvu, ajunta, etc. search the ubuntuforums there are a ton of threads about this
[08:22] <rpereira> Shocka311: Like... /dev/hdb1 mounted on /myfiles
[08:23] <Shocka311> Rpereira: ah, let me look
[08:23] <hjmills> how come in gnome when looking at the network with nautilus sometimes (often) the icons dont appear and i cant connect but when i refresh they sometimes load and then it works?
[08:23] <rpereira> Shocka311: Let's go pvt... OK?
[08:23] <n1gke> n2diy: I can't wait to upgrade the dual video card here, it is just way too cool.....
[08:23] <idlemind> lintux: if i use anything besides VIM i would recommend bluefish
[08:23] <KeenEars> if ubuntu spreads even wider this channel will becom unusable
[08:23] <Shocka311> Rpereira: what does pvt mean?
[08:24] <LinTux> cheers idelmind
[08:24] <n1gke> n2diy: Next video card will employ 256 megs mem, and then I can really enjoy my science and astronomy stuff.
[08:24] <crowley1027> whoever: under Synaptic Package Manager, i see flashplayer-mozilla and flashplugin-nonfree (both unchecked).  should i install either, both, or none?
[08:24] <thoreauputic> KeenEars: getting that way already I'm afraid :(
[08:24] <w3ccv> LinTux, nvu is good, just barelyu. U don't like the way it reformats what you enter - remeinds me on MS - it thinks the uses doesn't know what he wants to do.
[08:24] <agent> LinTux: you hear most web designers wail at doing it by hand, but that is because they are designers and usually suck at coding - i code by hand much, much quicker then those "pro" designers with their fancy html programs - not to mention in the long run it pays of big time because of clean code
[08:24] <fruitfly> benutzt ihr bei eurem desktop PC LVM?
[08:24] <n2diy> n1gke, rr, are you familiar with Kstars?
[08:24] <KeenEars> maybe by splitting to different topics...
[08:24] <w3ccv> linlin, /U/I/
[08:24] <n1gke> n2diy: I love kstars !
[08:24] <Takuya> ok I'm rebooting and I'll see
[08:25] <Skyrail> Anyone managed to successfully set up two screens working as a stretched desktop using an ATi based card?
[08:25] <Shocka311> Rpereira: the partition is /dev/hdb there is curently no acess path and it won't let me save one.
[08:25] <n2diy> n1gke, rr, me too.
[08:25] <agent> fruitfly: #ubuntu-de
[08:25] <reverseblade> most asked question
[08:25] <fruitfly> agent, oh ^^
[08:25] <n1gke> n2diy: way cool !
[08:25] <LinTux> cheers agent
[08:25] <fruitfly> do you use LVM on your desktop pc / notebook?
[08:25] <rpereira> Shocka311: Lock the other tab on your IRC program... So we can talk in private....
[08:26] <agent> !ask > fruitfly
[08:26] <rpereira> Shocka311: Sorry..... Errata: Look the other tab...
[08:26] <philo23> i need to back up the packages of a hdd i have mounted, how can i set the root in the dpkg command?
[08:26] <n1gke> n2diy: Is now watching 2nd room, hamradio.
[08:26] <thoreauputic> LinTux: if you are used to WYSIWYG, try nvu first ( you can also use it to code directly)
[08:26] <idlemind> lintux & agent: i agree most of the semi-auto tools jack up code; they are good for quick dirty jobs but if you're making any sort of larger web-site; i'd recommend hand-coding but you can use gui tools to help w/that. bluefish will allow ftp access etc... to ease the pain
[08:27] <reverseblade> WYSIWYG sucks
[08:27] <stefg> philo23: chroot to the system and sudo dpkg --get-selections > selections.lst
[08:27] <crowley1027> where should i extract FP9_plugin_beta_112006.tar.gz?
[08:27] <thoreauputic> idlemind: the code nvu makes isn't pretty but at least it is compliant, in general
[08:27] <agent> idlemind: uhm... if you are using ftp "live" on a production website then something is wrong... i have a webserver installed on my computer for testing the whole website and upload the finished product... doing it otherwise is... well... horrible
[08:27] <h3xis> crowley1027, in your home directoy
[08:28] <crowley1027> which would be?
[08:28] <reverseblade> crowley1027, any where just copy the plugin to firefox/plugin
[08:28] <h3xis> crowley1027, ~
[08:28] <Feral_Kid> fruitfly> I actually use LVM and RAID on my laptop... I have 2 120G hard drives...
[08:28] <thoreauputic> reverseblade: some people don't need to learn all the html they need :)
[08:28] <philo23> stefg: eg: chroot /mnt/ubuntu?
[08:28] <crowley1027> File System?
[08:28] <stefg> philo23: yes
[08:28] <reverseblade> thoreauputic, that doesnt prevent WYSIWYG sucking
[08:29] <fruitfly> Feral_Kid, i have 1 80 gb hdd and i want to reinstall ubuntu, now i dont know how i should partitionate
[08:29] <idlemind> thoreauputic: yes code can be correct but it is always said in programming that clean/documented code is MUCH easier to maintain
[08:29] <thoreauputic> reverseblade: whatever - X sucks too ;) Let's all run in a vt !
[08:29] <rpereira> Shocka311: Where are you? I'm waiting in the other tab....
[08:29] <philo23> stefg: where would the file be outputted to?
[08:29] <thoreauputic> idlemind: agreed
[08:29] <agent> idlemind: but even "quick and dirty" websites can be done much quicker by hand... i mean: look how quick i can write: <table><tr><td></td</tr></table>  compared to open app -> wait to load -> select create table -> fill in everything -> ok ;)
[08:29] <markoutthere> how do I leave here?
[08:29] <markoutthere> :quit
[08:29] <crowley1027> h3xis: Extract to File System?
[08:29] <reverseblade> thoreauputic, no, X provides a common api for guis
[08:29] <crowley1027> markoutthere: /quit
[08:29] <thoreauputic> markl_: /part or /quit
[08:29] <Takuya> omfg
[08:29] <markoutthere> thanks
[08:29] <KeenEars> btw - who knows - was problems with reiserfs fixed in kubuntu 6.10 ?
[08:29] <Takuya> agent, it has my essid
[08:29] <philo23> stefg: doesnt matter, found it
[08:30] <Takuya> and an access point
[08:30] <markoutthere> : /quit
[08:30] <Takuya> o_o
[08:30] <agent> markoutthere: leave this channel?
[08:30] <stefg> philo23: where you want it (in the chroot) ... using my example you find it in the current one
[08:30] <thoreauputic> reverseblade: *sigh* I was kidding
[08:30] <markoutthere> yes
[08:30] <Takuya> YES
[08:30] <Takuya> IT WORKS
[08:30] <reverseblade> thoreauputic, so do I, X really sucks :)
[08:30] <Takuya> hallelujah
[08:30] <philo23> stefg: how do i get that back onto the new hdd?
[08:30] <stefg> exit
[08:30] <Takuya> I am never trusting the internet again for .sys drivers
[08:30] <crowley1027> h3xis: Extract to File System?
[08:30] <Takuya> amazing.
[08:30] <h3xis> crowley1027, no... extract it to /home/your_username then in there should be the plugin. extract it to your firefox plugins directory
[08:30] <agent> markoutthere: to leave this channel just type: /part
[08:30] <Feral_Kid> fruitfly> Well, from a single drive I would use LVM and then allow for growth on home directory...
[08:30] <Takuya> agent: whee. :)
[08:30] <stefg> chroot and cp /mnt/.... /foo/bar
[08:30] <agent> Takuya: haha... what did you do?
[08:31] <Shocka311> Rpereira: can you hear me in the other tab?
[08:31] <stefg> *exit* chroot and cp /mnt/.... /foo/bar
[08:31] <Takuya> installed the drivers from the official CD
[08:31] <Takuya> :p
[08:31] <agent> Takuya: doh! ;)
[08:31] <Skyrail> Anyone sucessfully managed to get dual screens working on Ubuntu 6.10 using an ATi gfx card?
[08:31] <crowley1027> h3xis: libflashplayer.so?
[08:31] <rpereira> Shocka311: You are not typing anithing....
[08:31] <philo23> stefg: how do i import it again?
[08:31] <h3xis> crowley1027, yes
[08:31] <crowley1027> h3xis: how do i send that to the firefox directory
[08:32] <thoreauputic> crowley1027: that's all there is to move, afaics
[08:32] <fruitfly> Feral_Kid, is LVM complicaed? i didnt work with it before
[08:32] <stefg> philo23: dpkg --set-selections ... read man dpkg
[08:32] <Shocka311> Rpereira: i did but you must not have got it,
[08:32] <philo23> Skyrail: *high five*
[08:32] <philo23> stefg: sorry
[08:32] <h3xis> crowley1027, cp libflashplayer.so /path/to/firefox/plugins i dont know where it is because i dont use firefox
[08:32] <rpereira> Shocka311: OK... So lets talk here...
[08:33] <rpereira> Shocka311: Is your patition mounted?
[08:33] <crowley1027> anyone: where is the firefox directory
[08:33] <thoreauputic> crowley1027: the README in the tarball says what to do I think
[08:33] <philo23> Skyrail: hello?
[08:33] <h3xis> crowley1027, check /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[08:33] <Shocka311> Rpereira: I just tried pvt you again, did you get anything?
[08:33] <idlemind> find / -name "*firefox*"
[08:33] <h3xis> crowley1027, or /home/your_username/.firefox/plugins
[08:33] <reverseblade> Shocka311, hey whats up buddy
[08:34] <thoreauputic> h3xis: actually /home/you/.mozilla/plugins ( at least on dapper)
[08:34] <h3xis> thoreauputic, alright. i havent used firefox in forever ;)
[08:34] <Shocka311> Reverseblade: hey
[08:34] <thoreauputic> h3xis: epiphany uses the same dir
[08:34] <reverseblade> Shocka311, how is your linux adventure, still learning?
[08:34] <Shocka311> Rpereira: how do I mount my partition?
[08:34] <thoreauputic> for plugins ( at least it works here)
[08:35] <reverseblade> !mount  | Shocka311
[08:35] <ubotu> Shocka311: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[08:35] <Waldmeista> hey everyone...
[08:35] <Shocka311> reverseblade: oh ya. learnin away!
[08:35] <Waldmeista> i got a problem with the installation off the desktop live cd of ubuntu
[08:35] <Waldmeista> everything went fine but after a reboot, there was no grub to choose which os to boot so i ended up with windows again
[08:35] <crowley1027> h3xis: I don't see .firefox in the file browser.
[08:35] <h3xis> Waldmeista, which is?
[08:35] <h3xis> crowley1027, it's hidden.
[08:35] <unikon>  anyone whats the longest time that synaptic package manager  ever took to apply changes
[08:36] <reverseblade> Waldmeista, lol
[08:36] <crowley1027> got it :)
[08:36] <FirstStrike> Hmm..what was that bot trigger for grub
[08:36] <stefg> !grub | Waldmeista
[08:36] <ubotu> Waldmeista: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:36] <rpereira> Shocka311: Did got it?
[08:36] <thoreauputic> crowley1027: ctrl + h in nautilus, and try .mozilla/plugins
[08:36] <FirstStrike> Oh, just that
[08:36] <Feral_Kid> Nope it isn't that bad... I would suggest that you take a look at 'Ubuntu Hacks' to get an understanding of it...
[08:36] <Waldmeista> ubotu Ok, i'll read that, but I didn't install windows after ubuntu
[08:36] <h3xis> thoreauputic, firefox 2 doesnt have its own directory anymore?
[08:37] <reverseblade> Waldmeista, he is a bot
[08:37] <Shocka311> Rpereira: /dev/hdb1
[08:37] <thoreauputic> h3xis: not sure - I'm on dapper here
[08:37] <stefg> Waldmeista: ubotu is the bot :) ... and this applies to your case, even if you didn't reinstall windows
[08:37] <h3xis> thoreauputic, me neither. im on debian ;)
[08:37] <Waldmeista> i know that now, that he told me :-)
[08:37] <Shocka311> Rpereira: I have it mounted in home/user and I've named the folder hdslave
[08:37] <Waldmeista> ok
[08:38] <Shocka311> Rpereira: it won't let me write anything to it.
[08:38] <rpereira> Shocka311: And if you write on terminal: mount.... Do you have a line "/dev/hdb1 on /home/user/hdslave" ?
[08:38] <w3ccv> thoreauputic, /usr/local/bin/firefox - actually whereever you install it.
[08:38] <thoreauputic> global dir for firefox plugins appears to be /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[08:39] <thoreauputic> w3ccv: that only applies if you installed a non-packaged version
[08:39] <crowley1027> how do i find the process list?
[08:39] <Udi> does anyone know the name of a good irc server for Linux/Ubuntu?
[08:39] <h3xis> has anyone had any luck getting mplayer-plugin to work with opera?
[08:39] <thoreauputic> w3ccv: I mean a non-ubuntu version
[08:39] <w3ccv> thoreauputic, right - I only install it straight from mozilla
[08:39] <alper__> Hi, i got a little prob: i have a usb mass storage (psp) plugged to my ubuntu system, and every time when I want to delete something, it doesnt really get deleted, it just get moved to the trashband, when I plug off the psp, the data I wanted to be deleted are still there
[08:40] <crowley1027> how do i get a process list in terminal?
[08:40] <thoreauputic> crowley1027: ps aux
[08:40] <Shocka311> Rpereira: I have a line /dv/hdb1
[08:40] <Shocka311> Rpereira: /dev
[08:40] <thoreauputic> crowley1027: you might want to pipe that through less - ps aux | less
[08:40] <h3xis> alper, are you unmounting it when you are finished?
[08:40] <venik> does anyone know the name of a good irc server for Linux/Ubuntu?
[08:40] <rpereira> Shocka311: And what is the rest of the line?
[08:41] <alper__> no, im used to not to do that (from win)
[08:41] <thoreauputic> crowley1027: or use "top" for real-time updates
[08:41] <alper__> no, im used to not to do that (from win) h3xis
[08:41] <h3xis> alper, youre supposed to. could be the problem
[08:41] <Shocka311> Rpereira: /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[08:41] <alper__> ok thanks :(
[08:41] <h3xis> alper__, do you know how to do that
[08:41] <alper__> i think i know
[08:42] <rpereira> Shocka311: And /dev/sdb1 ?
[08:42] <alper__> rightclick on the storage and check "Eject"
[08:42] <h3xis> alper__, it should appear as a volume on your desktop, click eject
[08:42] <alper__> yes
[08:42] <h3xis> :)
[08:42] <alper__> thanks again
[08:42] <venik> no one uses IRC anymore?
[08:42] <Waldmeista> i guess the grub entry was written to my linux partition instead of the master boot record?
[08:42] <thoreauputic> venik: ?
[08:43] <kitche> venik: unrealircd dancer there is many that are good
[08:43] <Waldmeista> during intall there was something to choose where to install it to where i left it at hd0
[08:43] <Shocka311> It doesn't say anything about /dev/sdbl
[08:43] <thoreauputic> venik: apt-cache search irc server
[08:43] <venik> thanks.  That helps
[08:43] <rpereira> Shocka311: This means that your new partition/disk is not mounted.
[08:43] <kitche> Waldmeista: hd0 is the mbr
[08:44] <thoreauputic> !ircd
[08:44] <ubotu> ircd: IRC Server daemon - dummy package. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0 (edgy), package size 6 kB, installed size 36 kB
[08:44] <Waldmeista> ok, then why does it but windows instead of grub?
[08:44] <Shocka311>  rpereira: K, how do I mount it?
[08:44] <Waldmeista> *boot*
[08:44] <chorse> kitche: you mean hda?
[08:44] <kitche> chorse: no grub does hd0 for drives hd0 or hd1 if you have two drives or whatever for the mbr
[08:45] <rpereira> Shocka311: So you have to mount it, thru command: sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /mydirectory               I'm supposed that you've already create the directory, in my case : /mydirectory....
[08:45] <crowley1027> www.myspace.com/verismo   :)
[08:45] <chorse> kitche: ah, it's about grub, i'm sorry
[08:45] <kitche> Waldmeista: did you install ubuntu after windows or before
[08:45] <prisoner> mmm.. Ubuntu with Apache 2.2 and Trac goodness... http://www.rubystarman.org/wiki/UbuntuEdgyEft
[08:45] <Waldmeista> after
[08:45] <Waldmeista> i have 2 hds one primary master one primary slave
[08:46] <rpereira> Shocka311: If you didn't create the directory do: sudo mkdir /mydirectory
[08:46] <Waldmeista> on the master disk I created a ext3 and a swap partition
[08:46] <Waldmeista> during the setup i left the default hd0 to install grub to
[08:46] <kitche> Waldmeista: so it just boots into windows and doesn't give you the ubuntu usplash is that what your saying
[08:46] <Shocka311>  rpereira: do I need to create a directory?
[08:46] <Pirate-king> hello
[08:46] <jhall> how can i assign a static private network address to my box? something like 192.168.1.110
[08:47] <h3xis> jhall, in Networking
[08:47] <Waldmeista> kitche exactly
[08:47] <Pirate-king> can ubuntu interface with a canon camera
[08:47] <thoreauputic> jhall: I don't usually point at man pages - but try man interfaces
[08:47] <Shocka311>  rpereira: in place of /mydirectory should I put the access path I want?
[08:47] <kitche> Waldmeista: ok then you will have to reinstall grub then
[08:47] <stefg> Waldmeista: the problem is that grub disn't installed to the mbr of the first harddisk. it's still the windows boot loader there, which simply ignores the existence of any other OS
[08:47] <Skyrail> :| anyone know how to edit the xorg.conf file to get dual screens working?
[08:47] <factotum> so Im passing on my old Mac G4 to my girlfiend... Looking to get a pc for $$ reasons and I hate windows. Linux a good way to go?
[08:47] <thoreauputic> jhall: you can also do it in the system networking GUI as h3xis says
[08:48] <kitche> !grub|Waldmeista this will tell you how to reinstall grub
[08:48] <ubotu> Waldmeista this will tell you how to reinstall grub: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:48] <rpereira> Shocka311: Yes, instead /mydirectory you have to put the access path that you want.
[08:48] <jhall> thoreauputic: thanks, I'll check it out. I tried it through the networking gui a while back but didn't work right. don't remember why
[08:48] <mike1o> how do i know where a soft link originates from?
[08:48] <Waldmeista> ok, so i just follow the advice from the document where it says ...overwriting windows boot loader ok?
[08:48] <Menasim1> How can I use CVS??
[08:48] <thoreauputic> jhall: editing /etc/network/interfaces isn't too hard :)
[08:49] <stefg> Waldmeista: exactly
[08:49] <unikon> can anyone help with this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38544/
[08:49] <Shocka311>  rpereira: so it should be  /home/user/Hdslave right?
[08:49] <kitche> mike1o you can do ls -l on the symlink and it will on the right side say where the link is pointing to
[08:49] <venik> has anyone convinced UBUNTU to recognize the Nvidia graphics?
[08:49] <factotum> how is ubuntu performance wise compared to debian these days? Snappy as a debian install finally?
[08:49] <mike1o> tnx kitche
[08:49] <factotum> Im not flaming here, just want to know, ive been out of the loop for a while
[08:49] <rpereira> Shocka311: OK....
[08:50] <h3xis> factotum, it uses a gui now.
[08:50] <stefg> factotum: no difference, i'd say
[08:50] <factotum> awsome, how is it performance wise?
[08:50] <factotum> oh cool
[08:50] <thoreauputic> factotum: Ubuntu is *very* similar to Debian
[08:51] <factotum> thats great that its similar, but i want to know how it compares performance wise, is it sluggish like suse or does it have that pep like slackware or debian?
[08:51] <h3xis> debian is not as sugar coated
[08:51] <Shocka311> sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /home/user/Hdslave
[08:51] <Shocka311>  it says its already mounted there.
[08:52] <Intelligitimate> I am concerned about security as a user. There is only one user account. Am I the root user? It always asks me for a password when I do stuff, so I'm not sure.
[08:52] <h3xis> factotum, i prefer debian (using it now) but when i used edgy it seemed to perform the same. i just like more control over my system
[08:52] <thoreauputic> factotum: I think slackware is probably still quicker - but I haven't used it for a while
[08:52] <Shocka311> rpereira: it says its already mounted there.
[08:52] <Skyrail> Intelligitimate: no your not root, the roto account is seperate unless you log on with the name root
[08:52] <factotum> Im all for the ease of use, its sounds like its progressed in leaps and bounds, but it seems like the tradeoff is always performance
[08:52] <Skyrail> *root
[08:52] <Intelligitimate> So as long as I don't log in as root, I am not root?
[08:52] <aliendream23> how would I use shred to effectively 'wipe' a hard drive or partition clean, when that partition has no file directory?
[08:53] <thoreauputic> factotum: if you do minimal installs and build up, Ubuntu can be pretty quick - or try xubuntu ( xfce4 destop)
[08:53] <Rector> is the original ATI driver better than fglrx?
[08:53] <h3xis> Rector, no
[08:53] <Intelligitimate> But why is the sudo password the same as my login password?
[08:53] <thoreauputic> Intelligitimate: because that's how sudo works :)
[08:53] <Intelligitimate> Sudo is not root, buyt something else?
[08:53] <factotum> thoreauputic: cool cool i like xfce and fluxbox quite a bit
[08:53] <thoreauputic> Intelligitimate: only the first user is allowed sudo by default
[08:53] <stefg> !root
[08:53] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:54] <thoreauputic> factotum: +1 for fluxbox :)
[08:54] <MenZa> When I use ftp, I get "/home/menza/wp/: not a plain file" and it refuses to put. Any ideas? What am I doing wrong?
[08:54] <factotum> haha thanks :)
[08:54] <factotum> 1up!
[08:54] <rpereira> Shocka311: So, if you type: mount, will appear "/dev/hdb1 on /home/user/HDSlave" or similar.
[08:54] <aliendream23> !shred
[08:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shred - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:54] <ifwr> anyone have any ideas as to why grip keeps making improper mp3 files?
[08:54] <MenZa> !ftp
[08:54] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[08:54] <kitche> MenZa: the ftp command line program can't do anything with directories
[08:54] <MenZa> kitche: oh.
[08:54] <factotum> !blastbeat
[08:54] <thoreauputic> factotum: I compile fluxbox from the latest svn if possible though
[08:54] <MenZa> blast.
[08:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about blastbeat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:55] <MenZa> Thanks, kitche
[08:55] <stefg> MenZa: consider mc
[08:55] <malikeye> Intelligitimate: sudo give you root privileges based on your password, you don't need root password.... that's the point
[08:55] <Intelligitimate> Ah.
[08:55] <thoreauputic> Intelligitimate: if you need a root shel, you can type sudo -i
[08:55] <Shocka311> Yep, there it is
[08:55] <malikeye> granted if sudo isn't implemented right ( well it can happen anyway ) you can get root access with sudo
[08:55] <oidia> where is my "irssi_dir" ?
[08:55] <MenZa> stefg: mc?
[08:55] <stefg> !mc
[08:55] <factotum> thoreauputic:  okay thanks
[08:55] <ubotu> mc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-5 (edgy), package size 2057 kB, installed size 5944 kB
[08:55] <MenZa> ooh
[08:55] <malikeye> full root access, that is
[08:55] <kitche> oidia: the user config directory is ~/.irssi
[08:56] <factotum> mmmm.... mc
[08:56] <MenZa> stefg: I will
[08:56] <MenZa> I don't like gftp much.
[08:56] <thoreauputic> factotum: but the Ubuntu fluxbox package for edgy is the latest I think
[08:56] <malikeye> oidia: ~/.irssi
[08:56] <oidia> kitche: but the directory neaded to compile libfish?
[08:56] <oidia> ok, thanks
[08:56] <rpereira> Shocka311: So it is mounted.... To check if it will be mounted everytime is just edit a file called /etc/fstab
[08:56] <bashir> hey
[08:57] <bashir> i just isntalled beryl
[08:57] <Waldmeista> kitche when I print the partitions on my master harddisk with fdisk it shows me only one partition which is HPFS/NTFS where are all the others?? I have several (one primary, one extended containing 2 logical NTFS volumes) and finally the linux partitions
[08:57] <factotum> yeah, i have an old dapper beta install cd, but i think i might just nab the edgy iso instead of dist-upgrading
[08:57] <Shocka311> rpereira: i don't understant
[08:57] <malikeye> Shocka311: be careful editing fstab though
[08:57] <logox> hi all
[08:57] <logox> my name is logo
[08:57] <bashir> the beryl effects are fine but emerald isnt owrking
[08:57] <n1gke> hi logo
[08:57] <bashir> there are no title bars on my windows
[08:57] <Shocka311> what is fstam
[08:57] <Shocka311> b
[08:57] <logox> n1gke: naslsn
[08:57] <thoreauputic> factotum: probably a better way, yes - if you like xfce4 you can get a xubuntu CD
[08:57] <rpereira> Shocka311: If a line "/dev/hdb1 /home/user/HDSlave" exists.... Your partition will be mounted everytime.....
[08:58] <n1gke> logox: where are you please ?
[08:58] <malikeye> it's where the kernel looks to mount filesystems at boot time, primarily
[08:58] <thoreauputic> factotum: then install fluxbox :)
[08:58] <bashir> does anyone know what i should do?
[08:58] <kitche> Waldmeista: then that drives probably only has one partition, but then again I don't use fdisk that much in Linux so they might be there just that fdisk can't see them
[08:58] <logox> n1gke: i m from turkey
[08:58] <logox> U?
[08:58] <n1gke> logox: Cool ! I am in north east u.s.
[08:58] <Shocka311> rpereira: when I exit out of disk manager and get back in the access path is gone and it doesn't apear to be mounted.
[08:59] <thoreauputic> bashir: what does  pidof metacity  return ?
[08:59] <n1gke> logox: Are you in Ankara please ?
[08:59] <gop> !mesa
[08:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mesa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:59] <gop> why is downloading some mesa update
[08:59] <gop> so slow
[08:59] <gop> less then one k
[08:59] <bashir> 4964
[08:59] <rpereira> OK.
[08:59] <thoreauputic> bash: OK so the window manager is running
[09:00] <factotum> thoreauputic: could i do some kind of minimal install and just add as needed instead of some big foo-desktop metapackage?
[09:00] <Waldmeista> kitche, my mistake - remembered gparted and that shows me that my relevant partitions are on /dev/sda
[09:00] <gop> the computer asked me to install foo update and it taking for ever less then one k
[09:00] <rpereira> Shocka311: Are you using Dapper (version 6.06)? Or edgy (6.10)?
[09:00] <Shocka311> rpereira: I enabled the hd but I still can't use it or edit the permission properties
[09:00] <malikeye> Isn't ankara where the sankara stones are ?
[09:00] <thoreauputic> factotum: sure - use the alternate Cd for that
[09:00] <Shocka311> rpereira: Dapper
[09:00] <rpereira> Shocka311: OK.
[09:00] <factotum> alright, like a server install or something?
[09:01] <thoreauputic> factotum: then install x-window-system-core xterm fluxbox and go from there
[09:01] <stefg> factotum: if you feel comfortable with apt at the command prompt you can do a 'server'-install and then add componenets as neede
[09:01] <stefg> d
[09:01] <rpereira> Shocka311: But when you exit Disk manager your disk is not mounted anymore?
[09:01] <factotum> stefg: cool beans yeah im comfy-cozy with apt-get and aptitude
[09:01] <Waldmeista> the manual says "my /boot is at /dev/sda7, which translates to hd0,6 for grub" my linux partition is /dev/sda3 would that translate to hd0,2 ?
[09:01] <thoreauputic> factotum: yes, although edgy calls it something else I think ( there are F* prompts in theinstaller to check)
[09:01] <Shocka311> rpereira: thats what has happened in the past, let me try now that I mounted it with terminal.
[09:02] <kitche> Waldmeista: ah you have a SATA system?
[09:02] <factotum> thoreauputic: yeah i googled around and see that its easily possible
[09:02] <Waldmeista> yep
[09:02] <factotum> thankfully
[09:02] <Waldmeista> ah, ok thats the s in /dev/sda then right?
[09:02] <n1gke> Well dang.
[09:02] <malikeye> Waldmeista: kinda
[09:03] <Shocka311> rpereira: its still mounted this time.
[09:03] <PriceChild> Waldmeista, won't that mean sd0,6 etc.?
[09:03] <kitche> Waldmeista: yea if you are running a pure SATA setup
[09:03] <malikeye> it's actually SCSI, but SATA is emulated as SCSI
[09:03] <thoreauputic> factotum: I did it on an old P 200 64MB RAM - but that was breezy, not a current release ( about a year ago)
[09:03] <jontec>  I used this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting to try to fix my sound... and now kmix isn't even detecting my sound card!!! HELP!
[09:03] <Waldmeista> no, my primary master is sata, the slave is ide
[09:03] <rpereira> Shocka311: OK. To make your mount permantent you have to add it on "fstab" file, but with very caution....
[09:03] <malikeye> ~fstab
[09:03] <malikeye> !fstab
[09:03] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[09:03] <thoreauputic> factotum: sadly that old workhorse finally died :(
[09:04] <factotum> aw, thats too bad
[09:04] <Shocka311> rpereira: ok, what is fstab and how do I do that
[09:04] <thoreauputic> factotum: :'(
[09:04] <factotum> i still have an old pentium mmx with 32megs, it has freebsd on it but not really doing anything at the moment
[09:04] <Aragorn_Elessar> Hi all!
[09:04] <thoreauputic> factotum: dtill in mourning ;-)
[09:05] <factotum> haha
[09:05] <thoreauputic> umm s/dtill/still
[09:05] <thoreauputic> factotum: these new fangled boxen just aren't the same ;-)
[09:05] <timtrimble> can anyone help?  my sb16pci won't work in ubuntu.  i've modprobed it, it doesn't detect it as a soundblaster 16, but it does find it as an ensoniq 1371 and 1370.  i know that that's the chipset of the card, but I don't know why it still doesn't work.
[09:05] <rpereira> Shocka311: Fstab is a text file: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html as ubotu said.... This file defines the partiontions mounted when you start your computer or define a option to mount later.
[09:06] <Aragorn_Elessar> has anyboby problems with the latest edgy kernel?
[09:06] <Alakazamz0r> whats the latest edgy kernel?
[09:06] <Waldmeista> PriceChild why sd0,6 - i understand the sd0 but why the 6 ?
[09:06] <malikeye> timtrimble: did you unmute all the channels ?
[09:06] <reverseblade> Aragorn_Elessar, what kernel  ?
[09:06] <Alakazamz0r> 2.6.17-10 ?
[09:06] <factotum> oh i know, i still have my old hp vectra  piibox. its still up and running
[09:06] <reverseblade> I am using 2.6.19.1. This devil is bleeding fast
[09:06] <linnuxxy> how to install ZipArchive for php5 in dapper?
[09:06] <Shocka311> rpereira: got it, so how do I edit that and what to?
[09:06] <PriceChild> Waldmeista, i'm not sute about the sd, but grub starts counting from
[09:06] <timtrimble> malikeye: the mixer doesn't even come up because alsa doesn't detect a sound card
[09:06] <PriceChild> 0
[09:06] <MenZa> stefg: I decided on mc. How do I connect to an ftp server in the right window?
[09:06] <Waldmeista> ok
[09:06] <timtrimble> malikeye:  just gives an err
[09:07] <Asker> hi
[09:07] <timtrimble> hi asker
[09:07] <MenZa> panel*
[09:07] <x-r00t-x> how do i make default Gentoo terminal. on ubuntu edgy?
[09:07] <Asker> hi there
[09:07] <factotum> its also running freebsd with blackbox and dillo for a browser if i need it, plays music and whatnot. Its more or less a jukebox now
[09:07] <stefg> MenZa: please see the mc documentation
[09:07] <Asker> timt
[09:07] <timtrimble> ?
[09:07] <MenZa> stefg: ok
[09:07] <malikeye> timtrimble: cat /proc/asound/cards
[09:08] <timtrimble> malikeye:  "no soundcards"
[09:08] <Asker> i am new on linux
[09:08] <factotum> my girlfriend and I pretty much have a bsd household right now. OSX and freebsd everywhere
[09:08] <thoreauputic> factotum: yes, surprising what can be done with a bit of knowledge and lightweight apps
 I updated at the last version 2.6.17something-34 , I'm in windows now and the internet connection is broken in Edgy
[09:08] <x-r00t-x> how do i make default Gentoo terminal. on ubuntu edgy?can anyone tell me how do i make default Gentoo terminal colors . on ubuntu edgy?
[09:08] <factotum> thoreauputic: oh i love it, theres a use for every system in some way or another
[09:09] <thoreauputic> factotum: OS-X doesn't impress me much ( and mangles the file system)
[09:09] <timtrimble> x-r00t-x:  was wondering the same thing
  2.6.17something-34
[09:09] <x-r00t-x> timtrimble, ya. got any idea?
[09:09] <Alakazamz0r> im using the 2.6.17-10 kernel, it seems to be the latest stable Aragorn_Elessar
[09:09] <timtrimble> x-r00t-x:  no clue.  =/
[09:09] <thoreauputic> factotum: I have an iBook dual boot but I mostly use mac-on-linux for codecs etc and hardly ever boot OS-X
[09:09] <factotum> thoreauputic: yeah I know, its a hand-me-down from my broher. ive been using it for a couple months. Now I have a decent PC system to get up and running
[09:09] <jb0nd38372> Is there a software package that will allow you to pull pictures off a motorola cell? (sliver, l6, etc, razr)  I found plenty that sync with the phone book but none with the multimedia features
[09:10] <rpereira> Shocka311: First use the command: cat /etc/fstab          just to see if /dev/sdb1 is there....
[09:10] <malikeye> x-r00t-x: PS1='\[\033[01;32m\] \u@\h\[\033[01;34m\]  \w \$\[\033\]  '
[09:10] <malikeye> that's for non-root
[09:10] <thoreauputic> factotum: ubuntu runs faster than OS-X on my ppc iBook :)
[09:10] <factotum> I actually prefer the old os8 and whatnot, the last time i used a mac
[09:10] <x-r00t-x> on where ?
[09:10] <x-r00t-x> where i put it ?
[09:10] <malikeye> x-r00t-x: you need to 'export' that somewhere like ~/.bashrc
[09:10] <Alakazamz0r> thoreauputic, thats not surprising ;)
[09:10] <thoreauputic> Alakazamz0r: I know :)
[09:11] <malikeye> x-r00t-x: so : echo 'export PS1='\[\033[01;32m\] \u@\h\[\033[01;34m\]  \w \$\[\033\]  ''
[09:11] <malikeye> sorry
 I reboot , so I can control the exact version
[09:11] <thoreauputic> Alakazamz0r: actually even mac-on-linux runs faster ( better kernel I guess)
[09:11] <malikeye> x-r00t-x: so : echo 'export PS1='\[\033[01;32m\] \u@\h\[\033[01;34m\]  \w \$\[\033\]  ''  >> ~/.bashrc
[09:11] <idlemind> probably lighter gui code more likely
[09:11] <Alakazamz0r> thoreauputic, hehe
[09:11] <Waldmeista> ok, when i type root (sd0,2) in grub i get an "error 23: error while parsing number"
[09:11] <POVaddct> MenZa: open mc menu, Right -> FTP link ... -> user@hostname
[09:11] <malikeye> ssh root@ulyses
[09:12] <malikeye> woops :)
[09:12] <Waldmeista> when i type root (hd0,2) i get an "partition does not exist"
[09:12] <MenZa> POVaddct: oh.
[09:12] <MenZa> Thanks :)
[09:12] <x-r00t-x> malikeye, may i have to restart to make it work?
[09:12] <factotum> thoreauputic: that really doesnt suprize me. the ppc hardware is really quite nice, but the OS is just a bit over the top for my tastes. I dont know much about the tech specs of it.
[09:12] <linnuxxy> how to install php_zip.so for php5 in dapper?
[09:12] <thoreauputic> idlemind: OS-X uses a micro kernel - it;s always busily hunting around for something ;)
[09:12] <malikeye> x-r00t-x: source ~/.bashrc
[09:13] <Shocka311> rpereira: no it's not there, there is a /dev/hda5 that has no mount point
[09:13] <stefg> Waldmeista: i'm not sure  grub knows 's'da... grub just numbers hd0,1,2
[09:13] <x-r00t-x> malikeye,
[09:13] <x-r00t-x> export PS1=[033[01
[09:13] <x-r00t-x> bash: 32m] u@h[033[01: command not found
[09:13] <x-r00t-x> bash: 34m] : command not found
[09:13] <Shocka311> rpereira: I have no idea what that would be.
[09:13] <malikeye> k... might need to manually add it, not sure of the environment you have
[09:13] <idlemind> thoreauputic: ahh; as in micro kernel do you mean everything is basically a module; so it has to load all kinds of stuff?
[09:13] <wyld> what does an "out of range" error mean on a dell CPU fan error?
[09:13] <thoreauputic> idlemind: yes
[09:13] <malikeye> just edit ~/.bashrc and add the : export .........
[09:14] <Waldmeista> stefg ok then my second approach should actually work..
[09:14] <rpereira> Shocka311: OK. Do you have /dev/hda5 ?
[09:14] <malikeye> x-r00t-x: let me check ubuntu box, one sec
[09:14] <thoreauputic> idlemind: a CS lecturer told me that the OS-X kernel sucks ( don't know enough to say if he's right)
[09:14] <icilize> anyone know why my connection is killed when i use klibido? i download at about 1,200 kb/s for 10 minutes and then the connection on this computer stops, but when i restart it works again
[09:14] <MenZa> stefg: thanks, that did it.
[09:14] <MenZa> I'll definitely use that more :)
[09:14] <linnuxxy> i need to compile php_zip.so for php5 in ubuntu dapper (6.06) where can i find the source?
[09:15] <Shocka311> rpereira: would that be a hard drive named hda5?
[09:15] <linnuxxy> how to install php_zip.so for php5 in dapper?
[09:15] <idlemind> thoreauputic: lol; ya i don't devel kernels so for me i have to rely on others to tell me the insidds
[09:15] <x-r00t-x> malikeye, sure :)
[09:16] <stefg> Waldmeista: ' find /boot/grub/stage1' at the grub prompt will tell you, how grub sees your harddisks
[09:16] <malikeye> x-r00t-x: works fine here
[09:16] <x-r00t-x> malikeye,  its not working fine with me
[09:16] <thoreauputic> idlemind: in Revolution OS, RMS implies that the fact that the HURD is a microkernel made it hard to get it working - very tough to debug apparently
[09:16] <malikeye> just manually add this to the bottom of ~/.bashrc : export PS1='\[\033[01;32m\] \u@\h\[\033[01;34m\]  \w \$\[\033\]  '
[09:16] <kalila> linnuxxy: php_zip module is usually built in
[09:16] <x-r00t-x> can yo give me the tect again
[09:16] <malikeye> exactly  like that
[09:16] <kalila> try enabling it in php.ini
[09:16] <x-r00t-x> malikeye, with : ?
[09:16] <kalila> linnuxxy: i know it was for php4, not sure about 5
[09:16] <kalila> though
[09:16] <ixian_> can someone tell me how to make an .iso from a cd-rom? i want to make an iso of my windows 95 cd
[09:16] <malikeye> vi or nano or whatever you use
[09:17] <Waldmeista> stefg that gives me a "file not found" error
[09:17] <malikeye> delete the other stuff that you added with the echo >>
[09:17] <linnuxxy> kalila: i've search the HD for php_zip.so... not found anything
[09:17] <x-r00t-x> malikeye,  i mean to say ":" sami colon or what ever it is
[09:17] <thoreauputic> idlemind: otherwise we might all be running HURD/Ubuntu ;D
[09:17] <malikeye> that should be at the bottom of th eline
[09:17] <malikeye> oh.. no colon
[09:17] <idlemind> thoreauputic: hmm ...
[09:17] <malikeye> from export on.....
[09:17] <stefg> Waldmeista: then something with your install went seriously wrong (or you some sort of exotic sata-controller)
[09:17] <POVaddct> ixian_: dd if=/dev/<your_cdrom_device> of=win95.iso
[09:18] <x-r00t-x> malikeye,  ok
[09:18] <astaroh> hello
[09:18] <astaroh> good afternoon!!!
[09:18] <malikeye> if you get it work, I can give the root prompt too
[09:18] <astaroh> how do you do???
[09:18] <nolimitsoya> !hi | astaroh
[09:18] <ubotu> astaroh: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:18] <x-r00t-x> malikeye, no error but its not making color
[09:18] <hq4ever_2> playing with ubutntu, looks nice so far
[09:19] <x-r00t-x> r00t-fck@r00t-suck-on-that:~$ source ~/.bashrc
[09:19] <x-r00t-x> r00t-fck@r00t-suck-on-that:~$
[09:19] <malikeye> hmm
[09:19] <thoreauputic> x-r00t-x: you just managed to be offensive without even trying...
[09:20] <idlemind> i guess for some it comes naturally
[09:20] <_3lj> hey all, im trying to install x-server, and folling the advice on http://techbycolin.com/?p=88 and im ub to "startx" and exiting, but upon exiting i see a whole load of "Could not init font path element" errors, anyone got any idea where im going wrong? :-/
[09:20] <malikeye> don't know to tell you... try su - r00t-fck
[09:20] <timtrimble> can anyone help?  my sb16pci won't work in ubuntu.  i've modprobed it, it doesn't detect it as a soundblaster 16, but it does find it as an ensoniq 1371 and 1370.  i know that that's the chipset of the card, but I don't know why it still doesn't work.
[09:20] <astaroh> where is the server from??
[09:20] <x-r00t-x> thoreauputic, man i am newbie on it . so i have no idea
[09:20] <thoreauputic> x-r00t-x: well, please edit out your hostname/username
[09:21] <malikeye> x-r00t-x: pastebin your ~/.bashrc
[09:21] <stefg> _3lj: i remember we talked 3h ago about missing xfonts, didn't we?
[09:21] <malikeye> ~pastebin
[09:21] <malikeye> !pastebin
[09:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:21] <POVaddct> x-r00t-x: i think thoreauputic was referring to your username and hostname :)
[09:21] <rpereira> Shocka311: Yes.... On Disk Manager you could see the partion on your first disk.....
[09:21] <Waldmeista> ok, i tried the instructions from http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/GRUB and it seemed to work, grub comes up while booting but when I choose to boot ubuntu it says "error 22: no such partition"
[09:21] <thoreauputic> POVaddct: indeed
[09:21] <_3lj> lol, hey again stefg, i did that, i installed all of xfonts-base, and it says they are all installed :-/
[09:21] <x-r00t-x> POVaddct, hmm maybe
[09:21] <Waldmeista> damn, gotta try other things..
[09:22] <thoreauputic> !coc| x-r00t-x
[09:22] <ubotu> x-r00t-x: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[09:22] <stefg> !xfonts-100dpi-transcoded
[09:22] <ubotu> xfonts-100dpi-transcoded: 100 dpi fonts for X (transcoded from ISO 10646-1). In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.0.0-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 7199 kB, installed size 10648 kB
[09:22] <malikeye> timtrimble: default install ? you didn't mess with the kernel at all ?
[09:22] <aliendream23> help. when I try to "root@Ubuntu-0:/home/alienseer23# shred -z -v /media/hdd1"  i get "shred: /media/hdd1: failed to open for writing: Is a directory"
[09:22] <soobnauce> hi
[09:22] <x-r00t-x> http://pastebin.com/843889
[09:22] <x-r00t-x> its done
[09:22] <Shocka311> rpereira: there is no hda5, only hda1 and hdb1
[09:22] <x-r00t-x> malikeye, take a look http://pastebin.com/843889
[09:22] <malikeye> looking
[09:22] <aliendream23> how do i get it to shred that partition?
[09:23] <malikeye> you need to add it to the bottom
[09:23] <timtrimble> malikeye:  no, but I was forced to update from 5.10 to 6.06 to 6.10, but i don't see how that'd effect it that much..
[09:23] <rpereira> Shocka311: OK. Don't with this... So there is no /dev/sdb1.....
[09:23] <timtrimble> *affect
[09:23] <rpereira> Shocka311: Errata: Don't worry with this....
[09:23] <Skyrail> anyone know anything about dual screens in ubuntu?
[09:23] <malikeye> x-r00t-x: your prompt is getting reset in the middle, so you need to make sure it's at the end, or it'll get overwritten
[09:23] <malikeye> timtrimble: worked fine before ?
[09:23] <x-r00t-x> oh malikeye
[09:23] <_3lj> stefg: oooh, transcoded ones, i dont ahve those \o/ (thank you, ill give it ago)
[09:24] <Shocka311> rpereira: # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[09:24] <Shocka311> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[09:24] <Shocka311> /dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[09:24] <Shocka311> /dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0       0
[09:24] <Shocka311> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[09:24] <rpereira> Shocka311: Use the command: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[09:24] <Shocka311> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[09:24] <timtrimble> not sure, it's a pretty fresh install.  i didn't check to see if it worked first
[09:24] <_3lj> and ive now discovered alt + f<number> to get multiple screens :-D
[09:24] <malikeye> x-r00t-x: you have the right line, just wrong place
[09:24] <x-r00t-x> malikeye,  its just worked fine :D
[09:24] <malikeye> nice
[09:24] <malikeye> you want the root one too ?
[09:24] <thoreauputic> !paste | Shocka311
[09:24] <ubotu> Shocka311: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:24] <x-r00t-x> THank you so much
[09:24] <timtrimble> malikeye:  i kinda figured it would, just because everything worked perfectly, first try, on my laptop
[09:24] <x-r00t-x> malikeye,  yes
[09:25] <lynucs> hey guys, is there any software solution to transcode videos for example avin into dvd??? like nero vision for windows??
[09:25] <rpereira> Shocka311: Don't worry with hda5 is your SWAP partition... Your virtual memory.... And Don't paste here....
[09:25] <cius> question about xorg, I have multiple device, monitor, and screen sections setup for my two monitors, my computer monitor and my television.  the television is screen 1, and computer monitor is screen 0.  if I setup a server layout for just the television, should "startx -- -layout TVOnly" not start xorg only upon the television?  TVOnly would be the identifier of the server layout for just the tv.
[09:25] <malikeye> x-r00t-x: export PS1='\[\033[01;31m\] \h\[\033[01;34m\]  \W \$\[\033\]  '
[09:25] <rpereira> Shocka311: Use the pastebin or only in a pvt chat.
[09:25] <timtrimble> cius:  most likely, yes
[09:25] <thoreauputic> !guidelines
[09:25] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:26] <timtrimble> i recently was trying to do the same thing and had to fool with it for quite a while before I could get it to start in exclusively the TV mode
[09:26] <Shocka311> rpereira: k i'm in fstab
[09:26] <ifwr> how do I rip and encode files from a cd? I have been having endless problems with this!
[09:26] <_3lj> is there a way of making apt-cache search break for each page? so it doesnt just list them all and i only see the last page :-(
[09:26] <nolimitsoya> ifwr, i can recommend abcde
[09:26] <malikeye> ifwr: it's an art :)
[09:26] <cius> timtrimble, were there any specific things you had to do?  unusual settings maybe?
[09:26] <stefg> !serpentine
[09:26] <ubotu> serpentine: an application for mastering audio CD. In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.91-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 75 kB, installed size 668 kB
[09:26] <timtrimble> cius:  what kind of gfx card?  ati or nvidia?
[09:26] <x-r00t-x> malikeye, where do i add that code for root?
[09:26] <Shocka311> rpereira: there is the /dev/hda5
[09:26] <malikeye> ifwr: dvdrip is nice, but I haven't been able to get audio / video synced correctly with it
[09:26] <JayTee52> I keep getting a GDM greeter crashing error whenever I type a single character at the login screen in Edgy. Has anyone else had this problem and found a fix?
[09:27] <thoreauputic> _3lj: apt-cache search <words> | less
[09:27] <rpereira> Shocka311: Create a new line on the end of file.
[09:27] <malikeye> x-r00t-x: same, at the bottom of ~/.bashrc
[09:27] <ifwr> I installed abcde but when I type abcde in the terminal it saysoggenc is not in your path
[09:27] <cius> timtrimble, I have two more layouts, one for monitor only and one for tv and monitor and both work.  I have an nvidia card.
[09:27] <x-r00t-x> malikeye,  not working .... :(
[09:27] <_3lj> thoreauputic: thanks :-D
[09:27] <malikeye> ifwr: oh you are talking audio, sorry....
[09:27] <thoreauputic> _3lj: np :)
[09:27] <malikeye> pastebin your /root/.bashrc
[09:27] <cius> timtrimble, the TVOnly layout is the only one giving me trouble...  :-)
[09:27] <malikeye> ^^^ x-r00t-x
[09:27] <Shocka311> rpereira: k
[09:27] <nolimitsoya> ifwr, you need to install teh ogg encoder, och switch to another encoder in the config file
[09:27] <timtrimble> cius:  i know exactly what you mean.
[09:28] <timtrimble> cius:  i looked in the nvidia docs and eventually figured it out, let me see here, though.
[09:28] <x-r00t-x> malikeye, sorry?
[09:28] <Shocka311> rpereira: do I just start typing or is there a command
[09:28] <ifwr> i have ogg commented out and lame not commented out but I still get the error
[09:28] <nolimitsoya> ifwr, i recommend you use flac instead of ogg...
[09:28] <lynucs> hey guys, is there any software solution to transcode videos for example avin into dvd??? like nero vision for windows??
[09:28] <ifwr> I really want to use lame and it is installed just fine
[09:28] <cius> timtrimble, would you mind possible pastebinning your xorg.conf for me?  I can compare it to mine and see if I see any major differences
[09:28] <nolimitsoya> ifwr, its not about commenting out, its about changing a line. read the manual on editing
[09:29] <stjepan> anybody here knows how to make metacity themes?
[09:29] <Waldmeista> stefg does my /dev/sda3 linux partition have to have the boot flag set for that to work??
[09:29] <Shack> Evening
[09:29] <nolimitsoya> stjepan, there might be some docs on gnome-look.org
[09:29] <malikeye> x-r00t-x: the root colors work fine here, are you sure you have it at the bottom of ~root/.bashrc ?
[09:29] <stefg> Waldmeista: sorry, i have no clue what you're talking about ...
[09:29] <Shack> Could someone help me a little bit with my wlan installing?
[09:29] <mwalker_mewconsu> anyone able to install drivers for Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi?
[09:29] <Shack> I followed instructions at : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT73
[09:29] <malikeye> mwalker_mewconsu: they don't exist
[09:29] <nolimitsoya> mwalker_mewconsu, xfi is unsupported
[09:30] <timtrimble> cius - i assume you're using s-video, for "TVOutFormat", do you have "SVIDEO" or "S-VIDEO"?
[09:30] <Shack> but for some reason I'm missin rt73.ko file?
[09:30] <mwalker_mewconsu> do I have any other options?
[09:30] <cius> timtrimble, I have S-Video
[09:30] <mwalker_mewconsu> or I am I just without sound
[09:30] <malikeye> mwalker_mewconsu: different card
[09:30] <Shack> I've done like told at howto
[09:30] <mwalker_mewconsu> doh
[09:30] <timtrimble> cius:  change it to "SVIDEO" without a dash
[09:30] <timtrimble> nbrb
[09:30] <malikeye> you got onboard audio for a temp solution ?
[09:30] <rpereira> And type this: /dev/hdb1          /home/user/hdslave             ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[09:30] <x-r00t-x> malikeye, can you edit it for me and paste it to pastebin again? http://pastebin.com/843889
[09:30] <nolimitsoya> mwalker_mewconsu, send creative an angry letter, and hope they change their mind about making linux drivers :)
[09:31] <rpereira> Shocka311: And type this: /dev/hdb1          /home/user/hdslave             ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[09:31] <Waldmeista> stefg with gparted you can assign various flags to partitions like boot, hidden, lba, lvm, palo, prep, raid - my primary windows partition for example has a boot flag set
[09:31] <malikeye> supposedly they will have xi-fi drivers this year :)
[09:31] <cius> timtrimble, I'll try that, but I think I've tried it before. I'll brb, gonna see if it works.
[09:31] <malikeye> x-r00t-x: you can't just add the line to the bottom of the file ? :)
[09:31] <_3lj> ooh, im installing xfonts-100dpi-transcoded via apt-get, and it says it has installed and newest version, but at teh end of each install it says (warning the usr/lib/x11/fonts/75dpi) doesnt exist, is this normal :-/?
[09:31] <Waldmeista> @anyone: does my /dev/sda3 linux partition have to have the boot flag set for that to work??
[09:31] <x-r00t-x> malikeye, can you give me those 2 line again . please
[09:32] <x-r00t-x> i have just lost 1 line
[09:32] <stefg> Waldmeista: ah... don't worry. grub takes care of that, it's only the stupid DOS bootloader which needs 'active'-flags
[09:32] <nolimitsoya> can i resize a partition and xfs filesystem towards the beginning of the drive, if so how?
[09:32] <timtrimble> cius:  k, i think it was something wierd like that
[09:32] <thoreauputic> Waldmeista: linux doesn't need the bootable flag for a bootable partition as long as grub points at your kernel
[09:32] <malikeye> x-r00t-x: this is root : export PS1='\[\033[01;31m\] \h\[\033[01;34m\]  \W \$\[\033\]  '
[09:32] <Shocka311> rpereira: does it matter where it is placet on the window or just that it is in that order?
[09:32] <syte_> hi
[09:32] <jared_> I installed frostwire from the ubuntu deb package (off the site) and it said I needed a new version of java, so i installed the sun-j2re1.5 package, and it still says I have 1.4 installed when I go to open frostwire
[09:32] <malikeye> x-r00t-x: this is everyone else : export PS1='\[\033[01;32m\] \u@\h\[\033[01;34m\]  \w \$\[\033\]  '
[09:33] <LinuxNewb7331> howdy, I just installed ubuntu and am having a problem with my video
[09:33] <syte_> Has any had experience with the "out of range" error?
[09:33] <mattva01> hmm i have a wierd problem with synaptic
[09:33] <nolimitsoya> syte_, restart in safe mode and edit you xorg.conf
[09:33] <nolimitsoya> LinuxNewb7331, just ask you question, please
[09:33] <helton_bhz> quit
[09:33] <Waldmeista> ok, i think i made it now, my primary master is seen as second disk which leads to hd1 in grub: root(hd1,2) worked fine
[09:33] <malikeye> x-r00t-x: keep in mind this is static, so if you add users, you will need to add that line to each of their .bashrc files
[09:33] <rpereira> Shocka311: It will be like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38553/
[09:33] <oidia> anyone got a ready libfish.so compiled for amd?
[09:34] <syte_> well...i'm a bit new....so exactly how should i be editing it?
[09:34] <Waldmeista> now waiting for the reboot......hopefully it will be booting ubuntu then
[09:34] <ifwr> abcde -ch lame -o mp3   -> config file "h" cannot be found
[09:34] <LinuxNewb7331> I have an nvidia card, would the driver be the most likely problem, if so how would I fix it
[09:34] <rpereira> Shocka311: Did you check my pastebin with your file?
[09:34] <Waldmeista> damn, didn't work...
[09:34] <tigafan09> Please help! Is there any known way to get Ubuntu 6.10 to work with JMICRON?
[09:34] <mattva01> whenever I try to install something using synaptic  it tries to configure vmware and fails
[09:34] <nolimitsoya> syte_, try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' instead, and youll get a wizard
[09:34] <aragorn_elessar_> Hi all! I have a series of message like this in dmesg : Dec 23 14:22:29 ubuntu kernel: [17180104.524000]  IN= OUT=eth0 SRC=192.168.0.2 DST=212.216.172.62 LEN=59 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=58835 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=32771 DPT=53 LEN=39
[09:34] <Waldmeista> i don't know what went wrong..
[09:34] <x-r00t-x> malikeye,  its just worked for both users. how do i change the blue color to something like white ?
[09:34] <thoreauputic> syte_: easier and better is to run  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:34] <mattva01> however the program still installs
[09:34] <un_operateur> !nvidia | LinuxNewb7331
[09:34] <ubotu> LinuxNewb7331: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:34] <mattva01> its really annoying
[09:34] <aragorn_elessar_> it's normal?
[09:35] <un_operateur> LinuxNewb7331, check the howto posted up there to verify if you have the right settings for your particular card
[09:35] <thoreauputic> nolimitsoya: sorry missed your post then :)
[09:35] <malikeye> x-r00t-x: not sure, you will need to lookup bash colors or something like that and find a chart
[09:35] <syte_> thoreauputic: i've tried that several times. Unless i choose vesa, it shows me the out of range error
[09:35] <Anon58488> how can i use apt-get to install a program in a certain directory?
[09:35] <ifwr> nolimitsoya, I changed hte config file, but :     abcde -ch lame -o mp3   -> config file "h" cannot be found
[09:35] <Shocka311> rpereira: k one sec
[09:35] <LinuxNewb7331> i've been there and it tells me to do things like "click this button" and whatnot, but I can't see any buttons, i can only work in cmd mode, or shell, or whatever it is
[09:35] <un_operateur> malikeye, x-r00t-x - ansi colour codes / sequences
[09:35] <thoreauputic> syte_: use the advanced option and set your h and v sync rates
[09:35] <tigafan09> is there anyway to get ubuntu to work with jmicron?
[09:35] <nolimitsoya> ifwr, if youve edited your configs right you dont need to pass any options
[09:36] <thoreauputic> syte_: they should be in the monitor manual
[09:36] <syte_> kk thx a lot dude
[09:36] <tigafan09> please help?
[09:36] <Shocka311> rpereira: k got it all there
[09:36] <malikeye> x-r00t-x: if you want it to be dynamic, you can add this : http://pastebin.com/843903 to the end of your /etc/bash.bashrc
[09:36] <rpereira> Shocka311: Without the number in the beginning of the line of course...
[09:37] <rpereira> Shocka311: :-)
[09:37] <daggerx> ummm i installed the Xgl and compiz, but i cant get it to give 3d effects...how can i check if its running?
[09:37] <tigafan09> hello?
[09:37] <Shocka311> rpereira: of course :)
[09:37] <tigafan09> Would someone mind helping me?
[09:37] <malikeye> timtrimble: dmesg shows that it finds your cards, and alsa allocates it ?
[09:37] <malikeye> s/cards/card/
[09:37] <cius> timtrimble, there was no change, I got the same error
[09:37] <ixian_> hi, im trying to make an .iso file from a cdrom but i cant get it to work. i tried following the directions here ( http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-6509.html ) but when i do "dd if=/dev/cdrom of=win95.iso" it tells me that 'no medium found'. i tried it when the cd was mounted but it doesnt work either
[09:38] <jared_> I installed frostwire from the ubuntu deb package (off the site) and it said I needed a new version of java, so i installed the sun-j2re1.5 package, and it still says I have 1.4 installed when I go to open frostwire
[09:38] <jontec>  I used this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting to try to fix my sound... and now kmix isn't even detecting my sound card!!! HELP!
[09:38] <rpereira> Shocka311: Now your just have to change the owner of the mounted partition.... Just to check: it is mounted, isn't it?
[09:38] <LinuxNewb7331> is there a way to do what the wiki says, except through the shell mode?
[09:38] <Anon58488> how can i use apt-get to install a program in a certain directory?
[09:38] <daggerx> for path try /media/cdrom and see ifthat works
[09:38] <mnoir> tigafan09: google is your friend: look for 'jmicron ubuntu' and start reading
[09:38] <malikeye> ixian_: it shouldn't be mounted when you do that, and you need to make sure of where your cdrom is in the /dev tree
[09:38] <daggerx> instead of /dev/cdrom
[09:38] <thoreauputic> jared_: run sudo update-alternatives --config java
[09:38] <jared_> thanks :)
[09:38] <timtrimble> cius:  i forget what eventually got it to work.  i'll email my xorg.conf if you like
[09:38] <thoreauputic> :)
[09:38] <Shocka311> rpereira: yes it still seems to be mounted.  Can I exit out of fstab and I'll check.
[09:39] <ixian_> malikeye, well i tried /dev/cdrw but that doesnt work either. how can i found where it is in /dev?
[09:39] <timtrimble> malikeye:  no clue.
[09:39] <mwalker_mewconsu> does Ubuntu come with preinstalled wireless access software?
[09:39] <daggerx> <<<used /media/cdrom   and got it to work instead of /dev/cdrom
[09:39] <tigafan09> mnoir... i have been tearing up google looking for the solution, the only thing i can find is threads from months ago
[09:39] <cius> timtrimble, could you pastebin it?
[09:39] <timtrimble> cius:  yeah gimme a sec
[09:39] <malikeye> ixian_: try like daggerx said... /media/cdrom
[09:39] <thoreauputic> Anon58488: why would you want apt to install something to the wrong directory?
[09:39] <ifwr> nolimitsoya, so how do I edit it to not look for oggenc
[09:39] <alper> hi, my ubuntu always logs off, when i type shitf+backspace, how can i turn that off?
[09:39] <malikeye> timtrimble: can you look ? :)
[09:39] <cius> timtrimble, I appreciate it, very much.  :-)
[09:40] <mnoir> tigafan09: well It doesn't seem that anybody else here has anything they want to contribute.
[09:40] <Anon58488> thoreau: im trying to chroot a program but i require sendmail
[09:40] <Shocka311> rpereira: its still mounted
[09:40] <un_operateur> ixian_, this ought to tell you --  sudo hdparm -i /dev/hd?
[09:40] <timtrimble> malikeye:  hold on
[09:40] <Anon58488> thoreau: i dont want to spend a while installing sendmail by source
[09:40] <alper> hi, my ubuntu always logs off, when i type shitf+backspace, how can i turn that off?
[09:40] <Skyrail> I'm trying to get two dual screens, anyone got any idea?
[09:40] <timtrimble> skyrail:
[09:40] <thoreauputic> Anon58488: would you not install from your chroot?
[09:40] <jared_> thoreauputic, well it wasin't in there, so I went back just to make sure it wasn't a dream that i installed it, said the dpkg was interrupted...thanks for the help anyways XD
[09:40] <LinuxNewb7331> can anyone help me install an nvidia video driver, if that is the problem, through the text mode?
[09:40] <timtrimble> there are guides on ubuntuforums, skyrail
[09:40] <rpereira> Shocka311: Is your username "user"?
[09:41] <Anon58488> thoreauputic: how?
[09:41] <Skyrail> timtrimble: ok thanks
[09:41] <malikeye> alper: look for xtrap in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[09:41] <tiede> hi. I just removed KDE (and therefore kdm) from my system and am coming back to GNOME - KDE is waaaay to bloated :( Now, when the system starts, I have to start gdm myself, it does not load automatically. I tried both dpkg-reconfigure and reinstalling, but to no avail. How do I make gdm load automatically on startup (like it used to before)?
[09:41] <thoreauputic> Anon58488: I assume your chroot is a complet Ubuntu with apt etc installed?
[09:41] <malikeye> timtrimble: pastebin it if you can
[09:41] <alper> and then?
[09:41] <alper> malikeye,
[09:41] <malikeye> is it there ?
[09:41] <sharperguy> When I'm editing the live cd (by decompressing the filesystem) can I load an xserver from it (ie by killing gdm, chrooting into it and typing gdm)?
[09:41] <Anon58488> thor: chroot is where the user's root directory is changed
[09:41] <alper> sec
[09:41] <thoreauputic> !chroot | Anon58488
[09:41] <ubotu> Anon58488: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[09:42] <Anon58488> okay
[09:42] <malikeye> alper: if not, add it to your "Module" section
[09:42] <malikeye> Load        "xtrap"
[09:42] <un_operateur> tiede, perhaps this -- sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/gdm /etc/rc2.d/S99gdm
[09:42] <thoreauputic> Anon58488: I know what a chroot is
[09:42] <Shocka311> rpereira: yes
[09:42] <ixian_> un_operateur, thanks a lot :D turns out it was /dev/hdd
[09:42] <un_operateur> ixian_, :)
[09:42] <alper> what was the command to open it malikeye ? sudo...?
[09:42] <alper> sudo + further?
[09:42] <grndslm> soo...i've asked this before and gotten a couple different answers:  are the C2Duos really more efficient than the Core Duos?
[09:42] <Waldmeista> ok, the problem with grub not loading at boot time is gone, but now grub doesn
[09:42] <thoreauputic> Anon58488: I've used debootstrap to make chroots
[09:42] <malikeye> sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:42] <Waldmeista> it doesnt load linux correctly
[09:42] <tigafan09> I'm tryin to install Ubuntu 6.10 on a computer with an Asus P5W DH Deluxe motherboard (Intel 975X chipset). I think its conflicting with the Jmicron IDE Controller on the board. Any ideas? Please and thanks!
[09:42] <LinuxNewb7331> can someone show me how to use synaptic package manager and the like through shell so i can install my nvidia driver?
[09:43] <malikeye> be careful in there though
[09:43] <alper> thanks
[09:43] <alper> i know the xorg.conf file
[09:43] <malikeye> k
[09:43] <ryanakca> any python geniuses around? I have a question, and nobody in #python seems to know the answer...
[09:43] <un_operateur> LinuxNewb7331, why not just folllow the wiki -- time and effort has already been put into it
[09:43] <tiede> thanks un_operateur. Let me restart and see if it works now... see you in a few
[09:43] <un_operateur> !nvidia
[09:43] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:43] <timtrimble> cius:  http://pastebin.com/843907
[09:43] <Waldmeista> the menu.lst entry says "kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/sda3 ro quiet splash"
[09:43] <rpereira> Shocka311: So use the command: sudo chown user /home/user/hdslave
[09:43] <cius> thanks timtrimble
[09:44] <alper> that opens it in the terminal malikeye
[09:44] <LinuxNewb7331> I have looked at the wiki, but it says stuff like, "Click this button" "Select Administrator" and I can not get the gui up to do that
[09:44] <un_operateur> ryanakca, does it involve python programming or something general about python?
[09:44] <alper> i want it to open in the text editor
[09:44] <Waldmeista> the /dev/sda3 is my linux partition and the kernel lies in that path also
[09:44] <n2diy> LinuxNewb7331: ap-get install package name
[09:44] <malikeye> ahh... don't use graphical text editors myself :)
[09:44] <rpereira> Shocka311: The command chown is Change Owner.... More info command: man chown
[09:44] <x-r00t-x> malikeye, Thank you so much for your help :)
[09:44] <Alakazamz0r> timtrimble,
[09:44] <un_operateur> LinuxNewb7331, well, check, and double check -- if at that stage you still cant find it-- then ask us
[09:44] <malikeye> x-r00t-x: welcome
[09:44] <Alakazamz0r> this is wrong
[09:44] <LinuxNewb7331> thanks n2diy
[09:44] <Alakazamz0r> #
[09:44] <Alakazamz0r> @    HorizSync 30-50
[09:44] <Alakazamz0r> #
[09:44] <Alakazamz0r> @    VertRefresh 60
[09:44] <ryanakca> un_operateur: umm... somewheres in the middle... I'm thinking might be a bug... /msg?
[09:44] <un_operateur> !paste | Alakazamz0r
[09:44] <ubotu> Alakazamz0r: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:44] <x-r00t-x> malikeye,  i got one more thing .. lamme paste it on pastebin
[09:44] <timtrimble> yes, alakazamz0r?
[09:45] <Alakazamz0r> sorry un_operateur i wasn't trying to paste anything
[09:45] <Alakazamz0r> timtrimble, do you have an LCS?
[09:45] <Alakazamz0r> LCD*
[09:45] <un_operateur> ryanakca, well, i'm no python guru -- but what is it anyway?
[09:45] <LinuxNewb7331> un_op, what do you mean at that stage?  I boot it up, the ubuntu loading screen is miscolored, and I see a garbled mess
[09:45] <Waldmeista> anyone?
[09:46] <malikeye> bueler
[09:46] <Alakazamz0r> Waldmeista, whats the problem again?
[09:46] <timtrimble> alakazamz0r:  i'm helping someone else, I'm not asking for help.  I already have my tv working.  and it's a crt, not an lcd.  =)
[09:46] <Savage-{> there a good AIGLX howto anywhere for 6.10>?
[09:46] <malikeye> Savage-{: which vid card ?
[09:46] <Savage-{> nvidia
[09:46] <malikeye> !aiglx
[09:46] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.
[09:46] <Savage-{> thx
[09:46] <x-r00t-x> malikeye,  take a look http://pastebin.com/843910
[09:46] <malikeye> it's in the driver, so you should be good, just need to set i tup
[09:47] <Waldmeista> grub  doesnt load linux correctly
[09:47] <malikeye> think it's as simple as a one liner, haven't done it in a while
[09:47] <majestik> where are the apache configuration files?, when i type localhost in browser it sends me to apache-default/index.html
[09:47] <Waldmeista> the menu.lst entry says "kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/sda3 ro quiet splash"
[09:47] <tiede>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY truce555
[09:47] <Alakazamz0r> oh timtrimble
[09:47] <Alakazamz0r> hehe
[09:47] <malikeye> woops  ? :)
[09:47] <Waldmeista> thats correct but when selecting that entry on the grub boot menu it says "error partition not found"
[09:47] <timtrimble> hehe alakazamz0r
[09:47] <Alakazamz0r> Waldmeista, can you elaborate?
[09:47] <arnold__> Hi Im having trouble connecting to WEP enabled networks
[09:47] <malikeye> x-r00t-x: what I am looking at ?
[09:48] <Alakazamz0r> Waldmeista, do you have a SATA or an IDE drive?
[09:48] <Skyrail> anyone know if I can get free shipit CDs with the server version of ubuntu on it?
[09:48] <arnold__> I enter the correct key but the connection never works
[09:48] <forevertheuni> hello. I'm using fglrx in my laptop and I wanted beryl/compiz..so I need xgl ..I can run xgl..however I don't have direct rendering in Xgl(with normal Xorg session it works fine) I have xgl option in gdm  what can I do?
[09:48] <x-r00t-x> malikeye,  i got those LS color . thatz it :) and i want to sure it with you
[09:48] <Alakazamz0r> Did you let Ubuntu partition the whole drive automaticaly for you?
[09:48] <Waldmeista> the linux partition is on /dev/sda3 and /dev/sda is my primary master - a sata device
[09:48] <tiede> un_operateur, I did as you said, and now it works. I wonder why the link was broken in the first place...
[09:48] <malikeye> x-r00t-x: that is all that is in /etc/bash.bashrc ?
[09:48] <x-r00t-x> malikeye,  yes
[09:48] <arnold__> can anyone help?
[09:49] <tiede> well, anyhow, thanks for the help!
[09:49] <Waldmeista> Alakazamz0r after doing the installation from the desktop live cd i still had windows booting instead of grub so i booted the cd again
[09:49] <x-r00t-x> nope its on ~/.bashrc
[09:49] <daggerx> anyone know how to get TVT2 usb tv tuner to work?
[09:49] <un_operateur> tiede, errm.. it probably exists -- check -- ls -l /etc/rc2.d/*gdm
[09:49] <Shocka311> rpereira: it says canot acess there is no known user
[09:49] <malikeye> x-r00t-x: yer losin me :)
[09:49] <Shocka311>  or file name i mean
[09:49] <Waldmeista> and typed root(hd1,2) an setup(hd1) on the grub commandline
[09:49] <lynucs> how to make a DVD out of an .avi with avidemux???
[09:49] <forevertheuni> whois rpereira
[09:49] <radar_1976> ok  has anyone found a problem with firefox 2 locking up on PPC
[09:49] <x-r00t-x> malikeye, sorry
[09:49] <forevertheuni> ups :d
[09:49] <Alakazamz0r> Waldmeista, do this "fdisk -l /dev/sda
[09:49] <forevertheuni> ehehe
[09:49] <Alakazamz0r> "
[09:49] <ttrocal> On Edgy and Hoary, a SD card of mine keeps being mounted as read only, even if I specify -w on the mount command.  This didn't used to happen.  The physical lock toggle on the SD card is off.  What can I do to make it read/write?
[09:49] <x-r00t-x> ok i gotta go
[09:49] <x-r00t-x> bbl
[09:49] <un_operateur> ryanakca, do you see me?
[09:49] <lynucs> !avidemux
[09:49] <ubotu> avidemux: a small editing software for avi (especially DivX). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:2.1.2-0.0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 2738 kB, installed size 6956 kB
[09:49] <ifwr> nolimitsoya, what does "config file "h" cannot be found" mean?
[09:49] <malikeye> x-r00t-x: later
[09:50] <Skyrail> can I only download the server version of Ubuntu ratehr then getting it on disc
[09:50] <ryanakca> un_operateur: yes
[09:50] <Skyrail> ?
[09:50] <Shocka311>  are file directories case sensitive?
[09:50] <forevertheuni> hello. I'm using fglrx in my laptop and I wanted beryl/compiz..so I need xgl ..I can run xgl..however I don't have direct rendering in Xgl(with normal Xorg session it works fine) I have xgl option in gdm  what can I do?
[09:50] <mnoir> Shocka311: yes
[09:50] <malikeye> Shocka311: everyhing in *NIX is case sensitive
[09:50] <malikeye> for the most part
[09:50] <rpereira> Shocka311: Yes
[09:50] <ryanakca> un_operateur: well, no... I don't see you... but I see the text you've sent to the IRC server
[09:50] <Alakazamz0r> forevertheuni, what kinda video card do you have on it?
[09:50] <diskus> forevertheuni: #ubuntu-xgl
[09:50] <LinuxNewb7331> i'm trying "sudo apt-get nvidia-glx" but it is telling me "Invalid Operation", plus the HowTo tlaks about linux-restricted-modules
[09:50] <LinuxNewb7331> I need to unlock first
[09:50] <Alakazamz0r> LinuxNewb7331, try sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[09:50] <un_operateur> ryanakca, that "peculiarity" has to do with how floating point numbers are represented on your CPU -- it's a problem almost all programming languages face
[09:51] <Waldmeista> Alakazamz0r, ok that gives me all the partitions showing me that /dev/sda3 is the linux partition
[09:51] <malikeye> LinuxNewb7331: di you have multiverse and universe setup ?
[09:51] <forevertheuni> Alakazamz0r: radeon9000
[09:51] <Skyrail> un_operateur: remember before you said learning how to set everything up like a web server, mail server etc? well I installed the right packages sometime a go and got this PC working as a web server :)
[09:51] <lynucs> un_operateur, maybe you know how to convert any videos into DVD?
[09:51] <Shocka311> rpereira: k it worked that time, let me see if i can acess it now
[09:51] <LinuxNewb7331> I don't know what it is
[09:51] <un_operateur> lynucs, not really -- I dont like CDs/DVDs sorry :(
[09:51] <malikeye> !universe
[09:51] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[09:51] <forevertheuni> :( I want an nvidia in my laptop(like this one I'm using :( )
[09:51] <LinuxNewb7331> I dont know what multiverse and universe is
[09:51] <lynucs> :(
[09:51] <malikeye> LinuxNewb7331: check those links
[09:51] <rpereira> Shocka311: OK.
[09:51] <ryanakca> un_operateur: ok, and how would I fix it? (I don't?)
[09:52] <ifwr> why does abcde say "config file "h" cannot be found" ?
[09:52] <un_operateur> Skyrail, thats great -- keep at it :)
[09:52] <malikeye> they are repositories that you need to enable
[09:52] <malikeye> fro nvidia binary drivers
[09:52] <diskus> forevertheuni: well I would just wait for beta or final version of xgl/compiz/beryl..
[09:52] <Skyrail> un_operateur: I failed at the FTP server though :(
[09:52] <Shocka311> rpereira: do I need to reboot or anything?
[09:52] <DarthLappy> ifwr, What command are you trying to use?
[09:52] <rpereira> Shocka311: No...
[09:52] <Alakazamz0r> Waldmeista, /dev/sda3 is your ROOT partition?
[09:52] <LinuxNewb7331> thank  you Alakazamz0r for the install command, its actually doing something now
[09:52] <malikeye> ifwr: is there a /etc/abcde.conf ?
[09:52] <diskus> forevertheuni: or actualy I'm waiting already, I have xpress 200M on laptop :P
[09:52] <_3lj> what should startx show when i dont have any window manager installed? should it just be a crissy cross screen with an xterm up?
[09:53] <Alakazamz0r> good LinuxNewb7331
[09:53] <Waldmeista> Alakazamz0r what does root partition mean? it's the partition i installed my linux into
[09:53] <diskus> _3lj: yes
[09:53] <un_operateur> ryanakca, I'm not sure how python does it -- some method in the math library maybe -- floor/round.. something like that ..
[09:53] <tiede> hmmm, well, it still did not work until I did as you said... the output is lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 2006-12-23 15:42 /etc/rc2.d/S99gdm -> /etc/init.d/gdm     I don't know, as long as it is working now... It's still odd that installing ubuntu-desktop, reconfuguring everything with dpkg-reconfigure -a (since reconfiguring gdm alone at first did not work), uninstalling and reinstalling gdm did not make it work.... It works now, right. So there's
[09:53] <tiede> nothing to complain about... Thanks again un_operateur
[09:53] <timtrimble> _3lj:  someting like that
[09:53] <_3lj> result :-D
[09:53] <Alakazamz0r> /dev/hda1   *           1       23956   192426538+  83  Linux
[09:53] <Alakazamz0r> thats my root partition.
[09:53] <rpereira> Shocka311: try: ls -la /home/user and paste at pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[09:53] <_3lj> thank you all, esp stefg :-)
[09:53] <un_operateur> tiede, odd -- I cant explain why that is
[09:53] <forevertheuni> diskus: :( actually I want a new laptop :d lool (this stink.my dad mom a girlfriend all have new laptops..and :( poor me :D)
[09:54] <ifwr> yes there is a abcde.conf file
[09:54] <diskus> forevertheuni: well if you're going to get one try to go with nvidia or intel
[09:54] <lol> lolloso gayo
[09:54] <dead1ock> hi
[09:54] <diskus> forevertheuni: graphic card I mean
[09:54] <raxip> hi
[09:54] <lol> hu
[09:54] <Waldmeista> Alakazamz0r look at pastebin.com/843914 that the dump
[09:54] <forevertheuni> diskus: y..my mom's laptop is an nvidia..i'm running my usb ubuntu on it now :D
[09:54] <Shocka311> rpereira: it is letting me write on the hard drive now but I still can't access the lost and found file to delete it, but thats ok
[09:55] <ifwr> DarthLappy, -ch lame -o mp3
[09:55] -lol:#ubuntu- :O
[09:55] <un_operateur> ryanakca, --  print str( 2 / 5.0 )  :)
[09:55] <rpereira> Shocka311: You can't delete de Lost and Found.....
[09:55] <Alakazamz0r> yeah, dev/sda3 is your root
[09:55] <DarthLappy> ifwr, -ch'd be doing it I think.
[09:55] <un_operateur> Skyrail, well, which FTPd are you using?
[09:56] <ryanakca> un_operateur: kk, thanks
[09:56] <rpereira> Shocka311: This is a directory to adminstration of the partition....
[09:56] <normmac> the drivers for the Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11g (rev 3) have a link on the wiki but the link is dead and i'm having trouble finding drivers in google,, anyone know where i can get them
[09:56] <rpereira> Shocka311: I believe that it will not appear on Graphical Interface....
[09:56] <Alakazamz0r> Waldmeista, im going to dump my /boot/grub/menu.lst for you
[09:56] <lol> !Paste
[09:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:56] <Alakazamz0r> http://pastebin.com/843916
[09:56] <LjL> lol: in a *private* query please
[09:56] <canardo> ok i am just being daft but at the login screen how can i just login to a command prompt without starting x on edgy
[09:56] <Shocka311> repreira: this is the old lost and found that it would not erase in my origional format
[09:57] <canardo> trying to get my 6150 to output at 1366x768
[09:57] <Waldmeista> Alakazamz0r mine is the same except that it's hd1,2
[09:57] <un_operateur> canardo, press CTRL+ALT+F1
[09:58] <Shocka311> rpereira: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38557/
[09:58] <Alakazamz0r> Waldmeista, whats the error you're getting again?
[09:58] <canardo> thanks un_operateur :)
[09:58] <raxip> unsure
[09:58] <canardo> i have been doing ctrl alt esc :)
[09:58] <Shocka311> rpereira: thats where it is showing up
[09:58] <Waldmeista> when selecting the ubuntu... entry on the grub menu while booting it shows "error <i dunno the number>: partition not found"
[09:58] <dead1ock> that's a secret
[09:58] <canardo> be back shortly can hopefully help someone else out :)
[09:58] <un_operateur> canardo, CTRL+AKT+F7 to get back
[09:58] <canardo> thanks
[09:59] <un_operateur> ALT*
[09:59] <rpereira> Shocka311: Now paste the result of this command: sudo ls -la /home/user/Hdslave
[09:59] <timtrimble> whaaaaaaaaaaat is going on
[09:59] <un_operateur> sudo ls ?
[10:00] <Alakazamz0r> Waldmeista, do you have root            (hd0,0)
[10:00] <rpereira> un_operateur: I don't know if his directory is readeble by the user "user".
[10:00] <Alakazamz0r> brb
[10:00] <Waldmeista> no, because as I said before i did a root(hd1,2) on the grub commandline because my linux partition is on /dev/sda3
[10:01] <Shocka311> rpereira: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38560/
[10:01] <DarthLappy> Waldmeista, ...Shouldn't that be root(hd0,2) then?
[10:01] <malikeye> Waldmeista: shouldn't that be (hd0,2) ?
[10:01] <malikeye> haha
[10:02] <malikeye> Waldmeista: what you have there is /dev/sdb3
[10:02] <un_operateur> rpereira, if that mount point was mounted via pmount he should be able to read from it without the need to sudo
[10:02] <Waldmeista> actually it should, because the disk is my primary master, but that didn't work hd0 seems to be my primary slave (ide disk)
[10:02] <Shocka311> rpereira: engagement pics is the file I used to test it.
[10:02] <malikeye> Waldmeista: thats impossible
[10:03] <malikeye> as far as I know
[10:03] <Waldmeista> when I do root(hd0,2) i get a "error 22: no such partition" on grub
[10:03] <malikeye> does it exist ?
[10:03] <malikeye> is it mounted ?
[10:03] <KeenEars> why all apps that i`m intalling don`t go to programs menu ? is it intended ? or i missing smth? (using apt-get and synaptic)
[10:03] <LinuxNewb7331> I got the video card up!  Thanks Alakazamz0, uboto, and un_operateur for all y'alls help
[10:03] <KeenEars> almost all
[10:04] <rpereira> un_operateur: But it is mounted with "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt"
[10:04] <KeenEars> using dapper
[10:04] <Waldmeista> malikeye i mounted /dev/sda3 as /mnt
[10:04] <polemarchus> does anyone else here use irssi?
[10:04] <malikeye> it needs to be mounted as /boot
[10:04] <KeenEars> not that it`s very hard but very annoying
[10:04] <un_operateur> KeenEars, maybe you need to enable some of those apps in the menu -- at a terminal -- gmenu-simple-editor
[10:04] <malikeye> hold up
[10:04] <confuciusMD> . 
[10:04] <KeenEars> ah i`ll try
[10:05] <malikeye> you need a boot partition, one does not exist
[10:05] <SurfnKid> how can i reset the audio device
[10:05] <rpereira> Shocka311: Just to not forget, let's change the file /etc/fstab, because yout directory hdslave is Hdslave (case sensitive).
[10:05] <un_operateur> LinuxNewb7331, yw
[10:05] <SurfnKid> when it says its used by another program
[10:05] <SurfnKid> when its not
[10:05] <rpereira> Shocka311: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[10:05] <Yawner> Anyone know where program preferences are stored? Basically I set gedit I believe to be visable on all desktops, but now everytime I right-click on it on the App-Bar it produces a crash file.. I basically want to manually set the gnome preferences for gedit to not be always visable, (It continues through restarts)
[10:05] <Waldmeista> malikeye: to get that right: i'm now working on the live cd
[10:05] <Nevermore-Lap> hi everyone
[10:05] <Waldmeista> and the /boot dir exists
[10:05] <SurfnKid> !helper
[10:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about helper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:05] <rpereira> Shocka311: Change "hdslave" to "Hdslave" ...
[10:05] <Nevermore-Lap> what firewall should i install
[10:05] <KeenEars> i need to restart my session ?
[10:05] <SurfnKid> `help
[10:06] <KeenEars> it`s all checked there
[10:06] <Shocka311> Rpereira:
[10:06] <malikeye> Waldmeista: well, you dont NEED a boot, but is the best method... you need to mount /dev/sda3 as / in order for it to create the proper files in /boot
[10:06] <un_operateur> Nevermore-Lap, iptables and firestarter
[10:06] <Shocka311> rpereira: k
[10:06] <Alakazamz0r> ok
[10:06] <Waldmeista> malikeye: how do I do that since I already have a / from the live cd now?
[10:06] <Nevermore-Lap> un_operateur, so i install firestarter, iptables is included right?
[10:06] <KeenEars> un_operateur: i need to restart my session ? it`s all checked there
[10:06] <Schiz0> hey, i'd like to know how to run the sshd deamon in ubuntu server
[10:06] <malikeye> you need to chroot in
[10:06] <Alakazamz0r> Schiz0,
[10:06] <malikeye> Waldmeista: you have the install done already ?
[10:07] <Alakazamz0r> aptitude install openssh-server
[10:07] <un_operateur> Nevermore-Lap, I shuold think so -- it probably depends on iptables to install
[10:07] <Nevermore-Lap> thanks un_operateur
[10:07] <Waldmeista> yes, but my problem is I can't boot it, so I just booted the live cd again
[10:07] <reverseblade> What is special about Sabayon Linux ?
[10:07] <Nevermore-Lap> is there anyone that was able to change the key binding on gaim 2?
[10:07] <un_operateur> KeenEars, probably yes
[10:07] <ubuntunewbie> hello. can anyone help me with the sound issues i'm having?
[10:07] <malikeye> Waldmeista: k... so mount it anywhere ( I know, confusing ).... then do a : chroot /$MNT /bin/bash
[10:07] <KeenEars> thanx !
[10:08] <malikeye> that will basically inject you into the sda3 install
[10:08] <ecastro> hi everybody!
[10:08] <ubuntunewbie> i've tried installing alsa-driver, lib, util, oss... nothing is working
[10:08] <Shocka311> rpereira: I forgot to save it before anyway, let me put it all back in
[10:08] <Waldmeista> ok, did that
[10:08] <malikeye> Waldmeista: so you are in ?
[10:08] <malikeye> ls -la / looks like the sda3 install ?
[10:08] <rpereira> Shocka311: Now, I won't recommend for you to delete directory lost+found... Read: http://doc.vic.computerbank.org.au/tutorials/linuxdirectorystructure/
[10:08] <Schiz0> Alakazamz0r, how do i get the root passwd?
[10:09] <malikeye> !root
[10:09] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:09] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, I'd play about here if i were you -- gnome-sound-properties
[10:09] <Alakazamz0r> Schiz0, you dont need a root password
[10:09] <Alakazamz0r> sudo -i
[10:09] <Alakazamz0r> then your password will give you root access
[10:09] <ecastro> I've just installed ubuntu 6.10 and i really have to admit it: it is totally great... i'm going to remove gentoo immediatly from my pc. Dispite this i have some doubts, for instance, what soft do you use to burn cd's?! There is a default app but it is for burning audio cd's only...
[10:09] <Waldmeista> i dunno if it looks like it, it looks just like the live cd /
[10:09] <rpereira> Shocka311: It has to be like this one: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38563/
[10:09] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, it keeps giving me Totem could not open resource for writing"
[10:10] <malikeye> Waldmeista: ok, well if you can't tell, then just try to install grub into the boot record like normal
[10:10] <Shocka311> rpereira: I'm not gonna even worry about that. its a very  small folder and as long as I can access the hard drive i'm happy.
[10:10] <Nevermore-Lap> un_operateur: did u play with gaim keybinding? i did but im unable to make them work
[10:10] <un_operateur> ecastro, k3b is probably already installed -- althought i cant be sure
[10:10] <Schiz0> Alakazamz0r, it doesn't let me run the binary =\
[10:10] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, thats probably because the sound device isnt properly setup
[10:10] <DarthLappy> un_operateur, I wouldn't think so, on a Gnome environment.
[10:10] <Alakazamz0r> Schiz0, what do you mean
[10:11] <ecastro> un_operateur: but it depends on qt... isnt there a burning tool written in gtk?
[10:11] <abarbaccia> anybody know how to use oss with ubuntu dapper? having serious issues
[10:11] <malikeye> gnome-baker
[10:11] <malikeye> xcdroast
[10:11] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, is there a site i can go to so that i can set it up properly? i think i've been to 200 sites showing me how to do it.
[10:11] <un_operateur> Nevermore-Lap, I dont use gaim all that much -- what do you mean exactly by keybindings?? keyboard shortcuts?
[10:11] <Nevermore-Lap> yep
[10:11] <rpereira> Shocka311: This is a System Directory.... It's like to remove c:/windows/system32.... :-D
[10:11] <Waldmeista> malikeye: what is like normal? is it grub-install root-directory= ...
[10:11] <Nevermore-Lap> i want to send msg by ctrl-return un_operateur
[10:12] <ubuntunewbie> alsaconf detected the sound card... but when i do a 'alsamixer', it gave me like snd_ctl_open fail default
[10:12] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, -- at a terminal -- type this command out -- gnome-sound-properties
[10:12] <Schiz0> Alakazamz0r,  when i type sudo -i aptitude install openssh-server, i need to put a password entry, so i use the password of my user
[10:12] <Schiz0> and
[10:12] <malikeye> Waldmeista: however you were doing it before... I usually go into grub itself and then mess with the commands inside
[10:12] <ubuntunewbie> ok
[10:12] <Schiz0> i get a message
[10:12] <Schiz0> that i can't run the binary
[10:12] <Alakazamz0r> Schiz0, "sudo aptitude install openssh-server"
[10:12] <un_operateur> Nevermore-Lap, hmm, i'm not sure
[10:12] <malikeye> Waldmeista: just type grub to get into grub
[10:12] <_3lj> hmm, can i check with someone, in there xconf file, where do there fonts point to? is it /usr/share/fonts/X11 or /usr/lib/X11/fonts (mine points to one, but the fonts are located in the other :-/)
[10:13] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, it won't let me select the default sound card
[10:13] <Nevermore-Lap> un_operateur: i followed the guide to add keybinding but no effect...so is ok, i was wondering if there is someone who make it work
[10:13] <Schiz0> great
[10:13] <Schiz0> Alakazamz0r, i asume that the server does not come with X server
[10:13] <malikeye> Waldmeista: you do understand what you are doing right ? looks like you are trying to dualboot... which can get tricky
[10:13] <Waldmeista> malikeye: i have a doc here saying i must do a "mount -o bind /dev /mnt/ubuntu/dev" before for the chroot-system to know the deviced
[10:13] <Alakazamz0r> Schiz0, no
[10:13] <Alakazamz0r> well yes
[10:13] <peter_t> hello ubuntu people
[10:13] <Alakazamz0r> X forwarding
[10:13] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, at the terminal -- what does this do??  speaker-test
[10:13] <Shocka311> rpereira: that makes sense.  Thank you so much for your help, I think its working now
[10:14] <Waldmeista> malikeye: i'm trying to set up everything so that i can choose the os (ubuntu, windows) at boot time in grub
[10:14] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, Playback open error: No such device
[10:14] <peter_t> I'm trying to get my wireless network working with WPA authentication...
[10:14] <normmac> is there a way to turn up the brightness on a gateway laptop that underwindows you need the Fn key and that doesn't work in ubuntu
[10:14] <ubuntunewbie> and it keeps doing it over and over again
[10:14] <rpereira> Shocka311: No problem.... And merry Xmas for you....
[10:14] <malikeye> Waldmeista: ok, then do that then....mount -o bind blah blah... make sure to mount it under $MNT though
[10:14] <dobblego> when I lock the screen on dapper, I am not able to log back in - "password incorrect" - similar issue to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=99903 but the given solution does not work (change with passwd) - wtf is going on?
[10:14] <Schiz0> Alakazamz0r, ok, after installing the openssh server how do i set up the deamon to run at startup?
[10:14] <ubuntunewbie> ALSA lib pcm_hw.c:1357:(_snd_pcm_hw_open) Invalid value for card
[10:14] <ubuntunewbie> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:864:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[10:14] <ubuntunewbie> Playback open error: -19,No such device
[10:14] <rpereira> Before I forget: Merry Xmas for all you....
[10:14] <ubuntunewbie> that
[10:14] <Shocka311> rpereira: you as well
[10:14] <Alakazamz0r> Schiz0, it'll do it automaticaly.
[10:15] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, always address me in your messages so i can spot your replies  -- anyway -- what does this list?  asoundconf list
[10:15] <Schiz0> Alakazamz0r, oh and in case i don't want it to run at start up?
[10:15] <Alakazamz0r> sudo aptitude install bum
[10:15] <KeenEars> apt-get install happy_xmas !
[10:15] <Alakazamz0r> thats a boot up manager.
[10:15] <un_operateur> !paste > ubuntunewbie
[10:15] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, Names of available sound cards:
[10:15] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, and thats all she wrote
[10:15] <tiede> Hi again. Another annoyance. After removing KDE from my system, my themes are no longer properly set. In KDE's settings, there was an option to select which theme to use with gnome apps, and I tried using KDE's to make it consistent. However, when I logged in gnome, it would crash the theme-manager. So I made it use the Human theme instead. The problem is with KDE uninstalled, if I choose a theme other than Human, not all the style's preference
[10:15] <tiede> s change, namely the scrollbar, the buttons, etc... How do I fix this?
[10:16] <peter_t> I installed network manager gnome (trying to get WPA option), but it doesn't acknowledge any wireless connection...
[10:16] <checkmate> does ubuntu utilize dual core processors?
[10:16] <malikeye> checkmate: yes
[10:16] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, ok .. what you need to do is experiment with the different cards -- try setting each one indivually as the default with -- asoundconf set-default-card CARD
[10:16] <Waldmeista> malikeye: ok, seemed to work now, (didn't boot yet). the results are here: http://pastebin.com/843923
[10:16] <checkmate> excellent, because i'm getting one
[10:16] <checkmate> thanks malikeye
[10:16] <malikeye> Waldmeista: let me check
[10:17] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, where CARD is the name of the card obviously
[10:17] <Schiz0> Alakazamz0r, and how should i use it?
[10:17] <normmac> is there anywy to turn up the brightness on my laptop screen?
[10:17] <Waldmeista> as you can see, my /dev/sda is recognized as hd1
[10:17] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, how is the name suppose to look like? eg:- ens1371 ?
[10:17] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, or the full name?
[10:17] <Alakazamz0r> Schiz0, open bum and check or uncheck the services you want to start or not to start?
[10:17] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, exactly as how it is listed
[10:17] <ChevronX> Hey guy s, how do I hide my home directory from other users?
[10:17] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, listed where? in lspci ?
[10:18] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, if the cards have spaces -- include them "like this"
[10:18] <Schiz0> Alakazamz0r,
[10:18] <Schiz0> dcg@dcgames:~$ sudo bum
[10:18] <Schiz0> sudo: bum: command not found
[10:18] <Schiz0> dcg@dcgames:~$
[10:18] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, no dude -- under asoundconf list .. lol
[10:18] <malikeye> Waldmeista: yup, I wasn't sure about what you were talkin about... SATA doesn't have a master / slave design. SATA channels only allow one drive
[10:18] <Schiz0> i already installed it
[10:18] <malikeye> Waldmeista: that grub output looks good to me
[10:18] <n2diy> Schiz0: sudo updatedb, and then try it.
[10:18] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, asoundconf list did not show any cards
[10:18] <Alakazamz0r> Schiz0, sudo aptitude install bum
[10:18] <malikeye> Waldmeista: your a quick study :)
[10:19] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, it just game me "Names of available sound cards:"
[10:19] <ChevronX> Hey guy s, how do I hide my home directory from other users?
[10:19] <ubuntunewbie> gave*
[10:19] <Waldmeista> let's try the reboot
[10:19] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, ohhhh --  i get you now -- my bad my bad :) errm, you'll need to get the sound card installed first
[10:19] <malikeye> ChevronX: chmod 700 /home/$user ?
[10:19] <Schiz0> Alakazamz0r,
[10:19] <Schiz0> No candidate version found for bum
[10:19] <dobblego> so to unlock the screen, one must reboot? is that a new feature?
[10:19] <SurfnKid> anyone know how to reset the Audio on ubuntu?
[10:19] <Schiz0> and i ran the updatedb alrdy
[10:19] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, eermm... how do i do that?
[10:19] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, I suppose you know the name of the sound card listed via lspci ?
[10:20] <malikeye> Waldmeista: go for it
[10:20] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, yeah. its: 00:0c.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97]  (rev 08)
[10:20] <ChevronX> What permissoins is that
[10:20] <SurfnKid> When using Gxine and RP, ending one allows the other to access it, but random times it doesnt
[10:20] <w3ccv> ChevronX, your home directory should be owner,group both your uid, and set to be read,write,exectue(as needed) by user only
[10:20] <malikeye> ChevronX: that is rwx------
[10:20] <Alakazamz0r> Schiz0, updatedb isnt for a fresh list of software packages
[10:20] <tiede> what Gconf key does KDE modify/create to control gnome's themes?
[10:20] <Alakazamz0r> do an "aptitude update"
[10:21] <Waldmeista> malikeye same results as before: "error 22: no such partition"
[10:21] <malikeye> ChevronX: who owns your /home/$user now ?
[10:21] <ChevronX> I do
[10:21] <Waldmeista> i don't know what to do..seemed that I didn
[10:21] <Waldmeista> 't do anything wrong
[10:21] <_3lj> out of curiosity, what is the difference between apt-get and aptitude? (it seems to do the same thing, but is there something im missing?)
[10:21] <jvai> hey ppl, happy holidayz
[10:21] <malikeye> Waldmeista: paste your grub.conf
[10:21] <Schiz0> Alakazamz0r, still i get the same msg that there's no candidate version for bum
[10:22] <Waldmeista> one minute, must boot from the live cd again
[10:22] <rogue780> yesterday a computer with xubuntu on it lost power at the beginning of grub loading, and now every once in a while when it boots I get a kernel panic, and I have to hard-reboot it, then it works fine for a while.
[10:22] <Alakazamz0r> Schiz0, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[10:22] <Alakazamz0r> Dapper?
[10:22] <rogue780> any idea how to fix this instability?
[10:22] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, at the terminal -- t ry this -- sudo modprobe snd-ens1371   -- and let me know what you see
[10:22] <Schiz0> Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS \n \l
[10:22] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, see nothing.. just asked me for my password. i typed it in.. and thats it
[10:23] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, hmm, maybe it has worked -- what does asoundconf list say now
[10:23] <un_operateur> ?
[10:23] <Alakazamz0r> Schiz0, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Boot-Up_Manager_.28BUM.29
[10:23] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, nothing
[10:23] <bariel> hello, what is the name of the package in the red box? http://www.debianadmin.com/images/wpa/1.png
[10:24] <Schiz0> =\
[10:24] <Fed51> hola!
[10:24] <tiede> _3lj, apt-get installs only the package you specify and those it depends on. aptitude also install those that are suggested by the package's creator. Same goes with removal.
[10:24] <Alakazamz0r> Schiz0, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper is a very good resource
[10:24] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, pastebin the contents of this -- lsmod | grep -i snd
[10:24] <n2diy> bariel: the red box, with white dot in the middle of it?
[10:24] <ubuntu-newbie> please help. ubuntu (pc next to this one) is hanging in the startup procedure. i ve been watching the last 20 minutes: i get the big ubuntu with logo and the large progress bar beneath it; it's hanging at around 15% or so. windows from the dual boot install is still runging fine, no hardware changes whatsoever
[10:24] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, paste it here?
[10:25] <un_operateur> !paste | ubuntunewbie
[10:25] <ubotu> ubuntunewbie: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:25] <Schiz0> dcg@dcgames:~$ sudo apt-get install bum
[10:25] <Schiz0> Reading package lists... Done
[10:25] <Schiz0> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:25] <Schiz0> Package bum is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:25] <Schiz0> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[10:25] <Schiz0> is only available from another source
[10:25] <Schiz0> E: Package bum has no installation candidate
[10:25] <Ignite_> Guys, is the text installer on the desktop CD? Like, can I start it in the terminal?
[10:25] <bariel> n2diy, the wireless one
[10:25] <un_operateur> Schiz0, oi -- use a pastebin for that dude
[10:25] <Alakazamz0r> Schiz0, the link i gave you will fix that.
[10:25] <Ignite_> Because the GUI installer freezes at step 3...
[10:25] <un_operateur> !paste > Schiz0
[10:25] <malikeye> ubuntunewbie: you can hit F2 during the bootsplash to see what it's doing
[10:25] <n2diy> bariel: don't know.
[10:25] <_3lj> aah, so its safer to use aptitude then, being more cautious, thx tiede
[10:25] <Alakazamz0r> schhttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[10:25] <bariel> n2diy, the package to scan for wireless
[10:25] <Alakazamz0r> Schiz0, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[10:25] <KeenEars> bum can be used with sysvrc package (iirc)
[10:26] <n2diy> bariel: I don't know.
[10:26] <tiede> you're welcome, _3lj ;)
[10:26] <ubuntu-newbie> malikeye: F2 does not tell me anything (had found that on google): no reaction to the F2 button
[10:26] <bariel> n2diy, so which package can i use to search my wireless?
[10:26] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, what should i select as the Syntax part ?
[10:26] <malikeye> ubuntu-newbie: did you just tap it or did you "press" it ?
[10:26] <n2diy> bariel: I don't know.
[10:26] <tiede> so, no one has an idea how to solve my KDE/Gnome theme conflict?
[10:26] <ubuntu-newbie> malikeye: i'll press it...
[10:26] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, I'm not sure i follow
[10:26] <w3ccv> bariel, looks a bit like wifi-radar
[10:26] <malikeye> ubuntu-newbie: I find I need to hold it for a sec
[10:26] <ubuntu-newbie> malikeye: but still no reaction
[10:26] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, what do you mean?
[10:26] <Juhaz> Ignite_, nope
[10:27] <Ignite_> Ffs
[10:27] <ubuntu-newbie> malikeye: ok, seconds then
[10:27] <malikeye> ubuntu-newbie: that's cause it's hung :) rreboot and try it from 1%
[10:27] <bariel> w3ccv, do you know if wifi-radar can deal with wap?
[10:27] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, well..i went to paste.ubuntu-nl.org.. and it asks for the Text, My name, and Syntax
[10:27] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, the default should do <methinks/>
[10:27] <w3ccv> bariel, I think so, but don't have it running now - on a different machine.
[10:28] <ubuntu-newbie> malikeye: ok, as there is no reaction to 8 seconds of F2 i'll press ctrl alt del and check again at 1% please don't run away :)
[10:28] <Schiz0> thanks
[10:28] <malikeye> man, and I was just gonna bail ;)
[10:28] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38567/
[10:28] <bariel> w3ccv, how does that guy in debianadmin.com minimize the wifiradar? i have just installed it, but it wont go to system tray
[10:28] <Schiz0> Alakazamz0r, one last question, to set up the lamp
[10:28] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, i hope i did that right
[10:28] <Schiz0> the how is on that page too?
[10:29] <Alakazamz0r> Schiz0, http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06
[10:29] <Schiz0> thanks
[10:29] <n2diy> bariel: drag and drop it?
[10:29] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, it looks alright :)
[10:29] <w3ccv> bariel, when I'm connected I kill it - X in the top right coner
[10:29] <malikeye> ubuntu-newbie: I'm betting an error in the /etc/fstab file, but we'll see
[10:29] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, so what do i need to do now?
[10:30] <bariel> w3ccv, if i kill it, the programm is stopped
[10:30] <w3ccv> bariel, yes, it's done it's job then
[10:30] <bariel> w3ccv, ahh, you mean you dont need it anymore?
[10:30] <ubuntunewbie> that paste thingy is so cool. i like.
[10:30] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, gimme a sec
[10:31] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, wokay
[10:31] <ubuntu-newbie> malikeye: well thats just great. i reboot 4, 5 times, pc does not want to start. i reboot (hard reset), press F2 like crazy and... ubuntu boots like a charm in 12 seconds. how can i found what actually went wrong? /etc/fstab should NOT be the problem, i got the same used on three pc's
[10:31] <malikeye> ubuntunewbie: yup, it's great... cuts down on chat scrool too :)
[10:31] <ubuntunewbie> malikeye, yup yup.
[10:31] <Waldmeista> malikeye: i have a /boot but no /boot/grub after the reboot with the live cd
[10:31] <malikeye> ubuntu-newbie: dunno :)
[10:31] <w3ccv> bariel, not that I can tell. it is used to load the iwconfig(?) anyway it sets up the connection then I exit the program.
[10:31] <bariel> w3ccv, http://www.debianadmin.com/enable-wpa-wireless-access-point-in-ubuntu-linux.html if you see that site the package can allow us select which wireless network we want to connect
[10:31] <tiede> i'll be back.
[10:31] <Waldmeista> malikeye: forget it, i forgot to mount the installation partition..
[10:31] <malikeye> Waldmeista: weird
[10:32] <ubuntu-newbie> malikeye: i can live with it as long as it's working, but is there (sorry for the stupid question) some kind of error logging system that i can check now that the machine is actually up and running?
[10:32] <w3ccv> bariel, yes
[10:32] <malikeye> "kid, you'll shoot your eye out!"
[10:32] <malikeye> :)
[10:32] <cius> is the ubuntuforums.com login messing up on anyone else?
[10:32] <Waldmeista> malikeye: where should the grub.conf be?
[10:32] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, have a look at what davilinux (4 from bottom) says here -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=140604
[10:33] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, wokay
[10:33] <malikeye> Waldmeista: /boot/grub/menu.kst
[10:33] <bariel> w3ccv, the wifi-radar i installed can not do that
[10:33] <Alakazamz0r> cius, yes it is.
[10:33] <malikeye> menu.lst, sorry
[10:33] <ifwr> how do I tell abcde not to prompt for "edit seleced CDDB data"?
[10:34] <fdr> hello! with winxp there's this wis
[10:34] <fdr> ups
[10:34] <fdr> sorry
[10:34] <w3ccv> bariel, let me boot the laptop and see what I have
[10:34] <jontec> T_T why isn't my sound working!?!
[10:34] <borg> does anybody know how to make TwinView see my LCD as the primary monitor and not my CRT?
[10:34] <Waldmeista> malikeye http://pastebin.com/843932
[10:34] <cius> Alakazamz0r, thanks for confirming, I thought it might just have a grudge against me
[10:34] <bariel> w3ccv, ok
[10:34] <Alakazamz0r> hehe no cius, its definately messing up. i just tried loggin in.
[10:34] <synth1> any xfire plugin work for gaim 2.0 beta?
[10:35] <malikeye> Waldmeista: I know this is weird, but change it to (hd0,2)
[10:35] <w3ccv> bariel, taking a while - fsdk needed.
[10:35] <malikeye> Waldmeista: you can do this live too, in grub at boot
[10:35] <SurfnKid> anyone know how to reset the Audio on ubuntu?
[10:35] <SurfnKid> When using Gxine and RP, ending one allows the other to access it, but random times it doesnt
[10:35] <malikeye> Waldmeista: just select the kerenel and hit E
[10:35] <malikeye> Waldmeista: all edits are temp though, so...
[10:36] <SurfnKid> !audio
[10:36] <malikeye> s/kerenel/kernel/
[10:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about audio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:36] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, should i edit the menu.lst ?
[10:36] <Waldmeista> malikeye: how do I do it on the grub menu during boot?
[10:36] <un_operateur> SurfnKid, at a terminal -- killall esd; esd &
[10:36] <fdr> hello! with winxp there's this wizard that allows a user to ask for "remote assistance"... I think it really is something that enables some kind of rdp server. Is there something similar out-of-the-box in ubuntu, too? I want to provide help to a remote user, I'm pretty sure it can be done via VNC or similar... what I was looking for is such "wizard".
[10:36] <Hilob> Does anyone know of a terminal based cpu temperature monitor?
[10:36] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, errm, what do you think? :)
[10:36] <SurfnKid> un_operateur, what would that do
[10:36] <fdr> simply so that I can tell my user: if you need help, push this button
[10:36] <bariel> w3ccv, how do you run the networkmanager applet?
[10:36] <malikeye> Waldmeista: just make sure your cursor is on the right kernel and hit E
[10:36] <un_operateur> SurfnKid, type those commands out and press enter
[10:36] <malikeye> Waldmeista: make your changes, and then hit B to boot
[10:36] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, i think i'll try that. i'll be back. thanks a lot
[10:36] <SurfnKid> un_operateur, remove any so called TSRs in memory?
[10:36] <synth1> xfire for gaim 2.0?
[10:36] <SurfnKid> ok
[10:37] <borg> does anybody know how to make TwinView see my LCD as the primary monitor and not my CRT?
[10:37] <bariel> w3ccv, http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/images/wireless-at-tealuxe.png that one is NetworkManager, but i dont have it
[10:37] <ifwr> is there a way to prevent abcde from prompting "edit seleced CDDB data"?
[10:37] <un_operateur> SurfnKid, ohh -- it kills the sound daemon and restarts it -- that is all
[10:37] <Hilob> !temperature
[10:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about temperature - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:37] <SurfnKid> un_operateur, ah ok
[10:37] <malikeye> !clue
[10:37] <w3ccv> bariel, I don't, I use wifi-radar.  But I should find out, I can't find my eth0 .
[10:37] <ubotu> clue: Package to ease upgrading, delete me. In component universe, is optional. Version 20050523-1 (edgy), package size 4 kB, installed size 36 kB
[10:37] <SurfnKid> un_operateur, and i heard this bleep, thats thumbs up i guess
[10:38] <bariel> w3ccv, i found out the icon i asked is not wifi-radar, but NetworkManager applet
[10:38] <dikma2003> joined the room
[10:38] <bariel> w3ccv, only i dont know how to start it
[10:39] <jaek> i just installed 6.10 and my system lags every ~10 seconds or so... the mouse becomes laggy and the framerate of the game i play drops...
[10:39] <jaek> using top i can't find what it is that is causing this
[10:40] <jaek> any ideas?
[10:40] <gizmo_the_great1> hi. Has a Linux question ever appeared on the TV show 'Who wants to be a millionnaire' and if so, does any1 know what the question was and how much it was for?
[10:40] <SurfnKid> un_operateur, cannot open device another application might be using it
[10:40] <SurfnKid> still says the same error
[10:40] <gizmo_the_great1> just realised it off topic - i take it there
[10:40] <Waldmeista> malikeye chaging from hd1,2 to hd0,2 on grub during boot does it
[10:40] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, :still not working :(
[10:41] <Waldmeista> but why's that? what do i do now? edit the menu.lst and change it there too?
[10:41] <malikeye> Waldmeista: todl you it was weird
[10:41] <LinuxAVG> Trk Varm ARanzda
[10:41] <malikeye> I believe it's cause you delcare root as sda, so it remaps everything to (hd0,0)
[10:41] <synth1> i would u go about uninstalling gaim 2.0 on edgy and installing an older version of it
[10:41] <ubuntu> hi
[10:41] <ubuntu> i have questuiob
[10:41] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, did you reboot?
[10:41] <ubuntu> i have problems with ubuntu
[10:41] <md-beer> bariel: this is w3ccv on the laptop - my wifi-radar has an option for WPA but it needs a client
[10:41] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, yup
[10:41] <ubuntu> Peoples
[10:41] <ubuntu>  i have problem
[10:42] <LinuxAVG> uLen bi tane trk olsun ya
[10:42] <malikeye> Waldmeista: yeah, edit it in menu.lst
[10:42] <un_operateur> SurfnKid, are you trying to get your sound card working too?
[10:42] <LinuxAVG> Trke Bilen varm ????
[10:42] <bariel> md-beer, so you use wifi-radar?
[10:42] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, what does asoundconf list tell you now?
[10:42] <aliendream23> help, I have a dvd drive that got stuck perpetually erasing a dvd+rw and now it will not eject!
[10:42] <md-beer> bariel: yes  but with WEP only
[10:42] <bariel> md-beer, isnt the app called NetworkManager?
[10:42] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, it's telling me the same thing. no card listed
[10:42] <malikeye> aliendream23: power down and paperclip it ? :)
[10:43] <bariel> md-beer, http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/images/wireless-at-tealuxe.png
[10:43] <SurfnKid> un_operateur, it works fine, lets say i open a stream thru Gxine, and then i kill it, and open another stream thru Real Player, and works fine
[10:43] <un_operateur> aliendream23, use a paper-clip --- and push it in the pin-hole at the front of the drive
[10:43] <malikeye> aliendream23: sorry... use the "cd extraction tool" ;)
[10:43] <n2diy> aliendream23: can you kill the program, and eject from the desktop?
[10:43] <aliendream23> malikeye: can't running a lengthy shred command...would prefer not to stop
[10:43] <SurfnKid> every once in a while the stream will work on one, but not on the other (typically wont work on RP) so i would like to reset it so i can gain access to it
[10:43] <w3ccv> bariel, nope - it's wifiradar
[10:44] <aliendream23> un_operateur ...ok
[10:44] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, can you pastebin the contents of these two commands --- cat /boot/grub/menu.list; uname -a
[10:44] <aliendream23> Thanks!
[10:44] <w3ccv> !wifi-radar
[10:44] <ubotu> wifi-radar: graphical utility for managing Wi-Fi profiles. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.9.7-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 36 kB, installed size 208 kB
[10:44] <malikeye> aliendream23: it's still spinning ?
[10:44] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, ok. what's the site again?
[10:44] <un_operateur> aliendream23, yw :)
[10:44] <aliendream23> malikeye: yes
[10:44] <malikeye> I wouldn't eject a spinning CD
[10:44] <un_operateur> !paste > ubuntunewbie
[10:44] <jaek> what might cause my mouse cursor to become choppy for 2 seconds every 10 seconds or so...? i'm not doing anything but moving my mouse in circles and it does that
[10:44] <therapy> PP
[10:45] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, check PM
[10:45] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, wokay
[10:45] <cius> timtrimble, after comparing my xorg.conf to yours, I have been unable to solve the problem.  Would you be able to link me to the NVIDIA documentation you used?  Maybe I can figure it out from those.
[10:45] <bariel> w3ccv, my wifi-radar doesnt have the menu vpn connection, connect to other wireless network and create new ...
[10:45] <aliendream23> well, I don't care so much about the dvd, it's blank and I think it may already be damaged
[10:45] <malikeye> I'm thinking about the laser aliendream23
[10:46] <un_operateur> jaek, what is your average load when this happens ??
[10:46] <aliendream23> malikeye: ok
[10:46] <malikeye> aliendream23: fuser -cuav /media/cdrom
[10:46] <n2diy> aliendream23: can you kill the program, and eject with the desktop icon?
[10:46] <aliendream23> n2diy, that didn't work
[10:46] <malikeye> aliendream23: if you add a -k to that fuser command it will kill the processes using the cdrom
[10:47] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38575/
[10:48] <_3lj> \o/
[10:48] <w3ccv> bariel, edit-> has WIFI Options (mode channel key securityu) ,WEP (driver), Automatic Netowrk Config (DHCP or address assignments) and Connection commands (before , after)
[10:49] <Waldmeista> malikeye thanx for your help so far...another lil question: why is 1024x768 the highest resolution i can choose?
[10:49] <Sybux> Hi all
[10:49] <malikeye> Waldmeista: for xorg ?
[10:49] <malikeye> Waldmeista: what vicdcard and display ?
[10:50] <bariel> w3ccv, yes i have that also
[10:50] <malikeye> Waldmeista: xorg mighta probed them wrong, so it doesn't know the true abilities
[10:50] <Waldmeista> videocard nvidia something pciexpress display tft 19" 1280x1024 native resolution
[10:50] <Sybux> I've got some problem with spamassassin and whitelist. I've added a whitelist user in my master.cf but it doesn't work
[10:50] <malikeye> Waldmeista: check you /etc/X11/xorg.conf for a 1280x1024 resolution setting towards the bottom
[10:51] <bariel> w3ccv, but it seems not the same one with the screenshot, maybe my version is older?
[10:51] <babbitt> anyone have any experience getting either mplayer or vlc running on a g3 ppc processor?
[10:51] <jhasse> How can i downgrade a package like libxft2 to the version present in the reprositories?
[10:51] <NixNewb> which is better, kde or gnome?
[10:51] <ubuntunewbie> what does "cat" means?
[10:51] <malikeye> babbitt: you won't be able to play any windows formats with that... just to let you know
[10:52] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, you put acpi=ht in the wrong place :)  change line #120 to reflect this -- kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/hdb3 acpi=at ro quiet splash
[10:52] <ubuntunewbie> oops
[10:52] <sindrum> i prefer to use gnome i have friends who like  kde.
[10:52] <Sybux> NixNewb : none, it's just 2 different design. Choose the one you prefer
[10:52] <ubuntu> A music messaging session has been requested. Please click the MM icon to accept.
[10:52] <malikeye> ubuntunewbie: concatenate
[10:52] <babbitt> malikeye: eww, that's most unfortunate.  I thought the community had reverse engineered the formats in mplayer/ffmpeg?
[10:52] <malikeye> babbitt: not that I know of... we are still stuck with win32codecs
[10:53] <un_operateur> NixNewb, which is better ? mercedes or bmw? versace or gucci? IE or firefox? :)
[10:53] <w3ccv> bariel, I dont' remember where I got it, but it was only 3 or 4 weeks ago, for Edgy I don't have WAP here, or anywhere else so I havent' tried it. Beyon that I'm no help
[10:53] <flux_> can antyone help with a problem with chars in linux? I try to load a LateX document (.tex) into kine/texmaker/gedit/emacas (whatever, really), but I cannot get the norwegian characters  to work. They come up as small questionmarks. But I can take _the same_ document that got interpretted without special characters, and still write them in it
[10:53] <babbitt> malikeye: icky.  Does that include divx or just .wmv?
[10:53] <flux_> can antyone help with a problem with chars in linux? I try to load a LateX document (.tex) into kine/texmaker/gedit/emacas (whatever, really), but I cannot get the norwegian characters  to work. They come up as small questionmarks. But I can take _the same_ document that got interpretted without special characters, and still write them in it
[10:53] <Waldmeista> malikeye ok i added the respective entry for 1280x1024 what must I do to apply the changes in the x conf?
[10:54] <malikeye> babbitt: divx is fine... it's mainly wmv
[10:54] <un_operateur> !patience
[10:54] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:54] <Crescendo_> How can I make the audio device available to multiple sources at once?
[10:54] <malikeye> Waldmeista: did you make it the default resolution ?
[10:54] <Waldmeista> no
[10:54] <malikeye> Waldmeista: do that then... are you in X now ?
[10:54] <magic_ninja> whats a good xubuntu burning prog for audio cds
[10:55] <Waldmeista> malikeye u can change resolution in the menu system->properties->screen resolution where you have a combobox with the available resolutions
[10:55] <babbitt> malikeye: ok, I can deal with that.  The question now is how to get it to work.  Both crash with "illegal instruction".  I'm /guessing/ that they are trying to use altivec or whatever g4s and g5s have for floating point acceleration and the g3 doesn't....but I'm most familiar with x86 architectures.  I've owned a mac for about 16 hours now :)
[10:55] <malikeye> magic_ninja: I use k3b
[10:55] <magic_ninja> under xubuntu
[10:55] <Waldmeista> malikeye i'm on the gnome desktop
[10:55] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, okay.. brb
[10:55] <un_operateur> flux_, are you saying that while editing the document the chars don't show up but if you print the doc out they do?
[10:55] <MohamadABakerman> hello
[10:55] <n2diy> magic_ninja: k3b
[10:55] <malikeye> Waldmeista: sorry, forgot about that... I'm primarliy a gentoo user :)
[10:55] <Waldmeista> do i need to restart linux? i guess not..
[10:56] <malikeye> Waldmeista: ctrl-alt-backspace
[10:56] <magic_ninja> cool, now i used to have a lot of trouble with xburn and k3b making coasters and im' pretty sure my drive is fine it was just on warty and older mdk versions
[10:56] <flux_> if I load a previously written tex-file they come up as questionmarks, but when I type them on my keyboard they come up...
[10:56] <magic_ninja> do you know if these bugs have been fixed
[10:56] <_3lj> hey all, bit of an odd question, i think ive gotten my xserver-xorg to work (im on fluxbox now), but it only seems to work when i type "startx" ... but if i type "fluxbox" it doesnt, and comes up with an error, so whats the difference between how startx works and just typing in fluxbox?
[10:56] <magic_ninja> _3lj: thats the way its supposed to work
[10:56] <Waldmeista> ok, that restarted the gui but the resolution does not appear in the combobox
[10:56] <malikeye> magic_ninja: not aware of any bug
[10:56] <malikeye> s
[10:56] <magic_ninja> _3lj: startx loads your xwindow manage while fluxbox isn't a command at all
[10:57] <_3lj> magic_ninja: really? :-o so i've done it ? :-D
[10:57] <flux_> so there's something about the process when they are being read into the programs that things go wrong.,,,
[10:57] <babbitt> _3lj: you need to put fluxbox in your .xinitrc or .xsessions file, its started automagically when X starts.
[10:57] <dead1ock> Hello
[10:57] <magic_ninja> _3lj: yes and you can also make it boot directly into gdm
[10:57] <un_operateur> flux_, no real idea about tex? just a guess - after loading up the document can you refresh it?
[10:57] <raxip> hi
[10:57] <malikeye> Waldmeista: paste your xorg.cong
[10:57] <flux_> yes, I can refresh, but doensn't help...
[10:57] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, still not working :(
[10:58] <jaek> i'm going insane here guys, anyone know why my CPU pegs to 50% every ~10 seconds or so? i cant catch anything on top
[10:58] <ubuntunewbie> feel like killing myself
[10:58] <bariel> w3ccv, thanks for your time
[10:58] <un_operateur> _3lj, the command is startfluxbox
[10:58] <babbitt> malikeye: any clue how to get vlc or mplayer working on a g3, or were you just informing me of the wmv codec issue?
[10:58] <_3lj> is it not a problem, that my start x seems to log me in as "root" though :-/ can i change that somehow?
[10:58] <malikeye> Waldmeista: sorry pastebin... don't paste.. don't want the news thiking they can just paste into the channel :)
[10:58] <radar_1976> question...  what can I use to keep a log displayed on top of all windows
[10:58] <dead1ock> private
[10:58] <malikeye> babbitt: only g3 I have has osx on it.. the wife uses it... sorry dunno
[10:58] <radar_1976> I don't want to use a terminal window
[10:58] <Flannel> flux_: is your terminal set to utf?
[10:58] <radar_1976> is there a pager I can use
[10:58] <babbitt> malikeye: good enough, thanks for the info.
[10:58] <radar_1976> I have gnome running on edgy
[10:59] <flux_> hmm.... maybe not. Where do I do that?
[10:59] <malikeye> babbitt: most welcome
[10:59] <Waldmeista> malikeye that was clear to me from the start off ;-) maybe new to ubuntu/linux but not to irc ;-)
[10:59] <un_operateur> _3lj, if you'd like to use fluxbox with something like xdm or gdm -- put  a "exec startfluxbox" in your ~/.xinitrc
[10:59] <flux_> I've only used the graphical things for language
[10:59] <bariel> w3ccv, if i may ask one thing again. in gnome we have usually the exit button, where if we click of it, it will ask us what to do, whether logout, restart, shutdown etc. Somehow i have done something bad, and if i click on that symbol, it logs me out as default without asking me anything
[10:59] <malikeye> Waldmeista: I know, but you never know who would read that as it's ok to do it :)
[10:59] <rogue780> I'm trying to install Lirc via the ubuntu wiki, and when I get to the point where it says to do "./setup.sh" I get the following error message: "dialog not found!"
[11:00] <_3lj> okedokey, will try that, thank you un_operateur, magic_ninja and babbitt :-D woo hoo
[11:00] <un_operateur> _3lj, are you logging in as root to execute startx?? or running it as sudo startx?
[11:00] <malikeye> Waldmeista: basically covering my butt :) "but malikeye said I could do it" bleh :)
[11:00] <malikeye> not that I am any authority here or anything :)
[11:00] <malikeye> I'll shut up now
[11:00] <malikeye> haha
[11:00] <ogse23> hols
[11:00] <_3lj> un_operateur:  errm, i thought i just did it from my log in, but maybe i was accidently in root, ill double check now
[11:01] <_3lj> brb
[11:01] <rogue780> I'm trying to install Lirc via the ubuntu wiki, and when I get to the point where it says to do "./setup.sh" I get the following error message: "dialog not found!" can someone help me with this?
[11:01] <Waldmeista> malikeye http://pastebin.com/843946
[11:01] <magic_ninja> well k3b seems to work but...it says "cannot handle this file extension" for mp3 so do i have to convert them to wav?
[11:02] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, how do i list the sound card again?
[11:02] <raxip> investigating
[11:02] <_3lj> woo hoo, yes im an idiot, i typed startx in root, so its fixed :-D
[11:02] <_3lj> thanks all :-D
[11:02] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie,  asoundconf list
[11:02] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, ok. but still nothing :(
[11:03] <Flannel> magic_ninja: it wont burn an mp3?  that doesn't seem... sane.  It should just copy the file.  You might try asking in #kubuntu, they're more familiar with k3b
[11:03] <ubuntunewbie> un_operateur, i gotta go for now. i'll be back to bother u again some other time. thank you for your help though.
[11:03] <un_operateur> ubuntunewbie, :( well, good luck with it
[11:03] <malikeye> Waldmeista: your monitor refresh rates are probably limiting you
[11:03] <Waldmeista> whys that?
[11:04] <malikeye> dunno :)
[11:04] <malikeye> comment out the Horiz and Vert
[11:04] <malikeye> I don't have any for mine
[11:04] <malikeye> LCD natively should scale to 60Hz
[11:04] <Waldmeista> ok, anyways, i gotta leave now, check that out another time... Thanx very much for your patience finally making my linux boot ;-)
[11:04] <Waldmeista> bye
[11:04] <malikeye> Waldmeista: welcome, later
[11:05] <fatlip> hey i'm getting some insane errors after a failed dist-upgrade
[11:05] <fatlip> and i'm having trouble fixing it
[11:06] <fatlip> there it goes again
[11:06] <Hilob> Does anyone know of a terminal based cpu temperature monitor?
[11:07] <fatlip> kicks me out of X, and then when it restarts it said "failed to initialize HAL"
[11:07] <Hilob> I'm trying to see if I can overheat my home made 1U server
[11:07] <fatlip> and the damaged packages are: capplets-data, and gnome-control
[11:07] <BearPerson> Hilob, sensors, from the lm-sensors package
[11:08] <Hilob> Thanks!
[11:11] <citr0n> Hey. Can anyone tell me, how to assign <Alt Gr>+e to ?
[11:11] <citr0n> If I write "xmodmap -e 'keycode 26 = e E ae AE ae AE'" in a console, it doesn't work, but if I change the Q-key with "xmodmap -e 'keycode  24 = q Q ae AE ae AE'", it works just fine.
[11:11] <citr0n> The only difference I see, is that Q already has assigned a value to <Alt Gr>+q, and e doesn't. Do I have to tell that I add an value instead of changing one?
[11:11] <Crescendo_> What is wrong with Java?  Every time I run a Java app my system becomes completely unstable.
[11:12] <Nina_> Need a hand to get my Nvidia open gl drivers to work, anyone ?
[11:12] <m12> anyone here use the palm applet?
[11:13] <Flannel> !anyone | Nina_, m12
[11:13] <ubotu> Nina_, m12: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:14] <malikeye> Crescendo_: which ubuntu version ?
[11:14] <Crescendo_> Edgy.
[11:14] <vmlemon> Hi, I'm having a wierd problem with Ubuntu Dapper Drake on a laptop, when it boots, the bootsplash is scrambled
[11:14] <m12> ok, I have gotten the palm applet to sync with my palm.  However, I do not know where it puts my pictures.  I have a folder where it syncs all of the applications, but the pictures aren't there.  Pictures appear in the sync logs, but I don't know what happens to them.
[11:15] <malikeye> Crescendo_: which java version ? 1.5.0_08 ?
[11:15] <nuffer> um, can anyone tell me, the ubuntu desktop livecd for g5s... it can mount hfs+ partitions, right?
[11:15] <Hilob> Here is a strange issue
[11:16] <Hilob> I can only see 2.8GB of memory when Memory remap is disabled in the BIOS
[11:16] <Hilob> When it's enabled, the system rarely boots
[11:16] <aliendream23> ok...my xserver just crashed, I had to reinstall my video drivers and reconfigure my xserver config file. Whgen the server crashed, shred was running on a partition that, after getting x up again, is not there. What happened to the discs option under system-->admin from dapper...? How do I go about getting that drive back?
[11:16] <malikeye> nuffer: not positive, it should...
[11:16] <Hilob> Any ideas?
[11:16] <madman91> hey guys
[11:16] <fatlip> ! :(
[11:16] <nuffer> malikeye: because I figured, it makes sense for something for PPCs to be able to mount OSX's partitions, right?
[11:16] <nuffer> yet the gentoo livecd can't do it
[11:17] <malikeye> nuffer: I would think... haven't booted gentoo on a mac in a while...
[11:17] <Crescendo_> malikeye, I've no idea.
[11:17] <vmlemon> nuffer: you need to enable HFS and HFS+ support in the kernel
[11:17] <nuffer> vmlemon: I mean off of a default livecd
[11:17] <malikeye> vmlemon: that's not moduled by default ?
[11:17] <nuffer> I don't actually want to install a linux here
[11:17] <vmlemon> I'm not sure then
[11:17] <nuffer> just use it as a recovery tool
[11:18] <malikeye> nuffer: not sure of the module name... but could probably modprobe hfs or something like that
[11:18] <malikeye> nuffer: does lsmod show anything significant ?
[11:18] <vmlemon> Any ideas about my scrabled bootscreen problem?
[11:18] <violot> Is wireless support good under Edgy?
[11:18] <nuffer> sorry, not at the computer right now...
[11:18] <madman91> i have a wine problem..  i have the repos .. deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main  ...  deb-src http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main ...    and i try both 'sudo aptitude install wine' and 'sudo apt-get install wine' and i get the error .. Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package. .. so how do i install it
[11:18] <fatlip> Message from syslogd@daveyj-desktop at Sat Dec 23 17:18:20 2006 ...
[11:18] <fatlip> daveyj-desktop kernel: [17238142.980000]  Oops: 0002 [#20] 
[11:18] <fatlip> =[
[11:19] <malikeye> nuffer: my imac is keyboard less ( using synergy to meld all my machines :) ), so I can't really boot a gentoo cd
[11:19] <malikeye> nuffer: sorry, ubuntu cd
[11:19] <nuffer> nnn
[11:20] <vmlemon> Anyone know how to reset a forgotten password for the main user account?
[11:20] <vmlemon> It's set to autologin, but I've forgotten my password so I can't change it
[11:20] <malikeye> vmlemon: you need to boot in rescue mode or whatever
[11:20] <vmlemon> Thanks
[11:21] <niekie> vmlemon, when you do that:
[11:21] <malikeye> bascially get root access and passwd $user
[11:21] <fatlip> okay i get booted out of X everytime i maximize something
[11:21] <niekie> Just enter passwd yourusername
[11:21] <vmlemon> malikeye: can I do it with sudo?
[11:21] <niekie> then set the new password
[11:21] <niekie> vmlemon, yes.
[11:21] <malikeye> vmlemon: you'll need your password for that
[11:21] <niekie> When you boot in recovery mode, you get root access.
[11:21] <niekie> malikeye, not if he boots in recovery mode ;)
[11:22] <malikeye> unless you set your sudo up to not ask for a password
[11:22] <malikeye> niekie: yeah, I know
[11:22] <malikeye> fatlip: bad upgrade ?
[11:23] <malikeye> niekie: but s/he might not even need to use rescue if sudo is open
[11:23] <malikeye> which it's not be default
[11:23] <malikeye> s/be/by/
[11:23] <niekie> Heh.
[11:23] <normmac> is there any way to get the Fn key to work so i can enable my wireless card, and control my brightness
[11:23] <madman91> how do i isntall wine with apt-get ... i put the repo in .. but it doesnt conncet.. thats the only one on my repo list that doesnt connect
[11:23] <malikeye> normmac: thinkpad ?
[11:23] <normmac> gatewat
[11:23] <normmac> *gateway
[11:23] <malikeye> hmm
[11:24] <fatlip> malikeye: yes, bad upgrade
[11:24] <malikeye> dunno of there are drivers for that
[11:24] <fatlip> now ubuntu is hating me :(
[11:24] <normmac> or anyway to enable my wireless card and my brightness
[11:24] <malikeye> fatlip: what'd you use to upgrade ? synaptic ?
[11:24] <normmac> i dont need to use the fn key
[11:24] <fatlip> yeah
[11:24] <normmac> i jsut dont know another way
[11:24] <fatlip> capplets-data is the corrupt bugger
[11:24] <malikeye> fatlip: try : apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[11:24] <BjoeHrn> Hey
[11:24] <fatlip> did that
[11:24] <BjoeHrn> Does anyone use Edgy an xChat?
[11:24] <ApesMa> I upgraded from Breezy Badger to Dapper Drake to Edgy Eft, but the system didn't automatically change xorg.conf to reflect the presence of a Wacom graphire3. Do I have to track down the required settings and edit it myself, or is there a way to force it to set xorg up for me?
[11:25] <malikeye> synaptic has problems with dependencies, I think
[11:25] <BjoeHrn> *and
[11:25] <fatlip> and the problem lies in dist-upgrade
[11:25] <IndyGUnFreak> back up and try a clean install.
[11:25] <fatlip> says to try "dpkg --configure -a" and when i do that
[11:25] <fatlip> it complains about capplets-data not being configured correctly.. and something about inodes
[11:25] <ifwr> how do I tell abcde to structure the output directory.  I tried using a relative path, I tried using ~/user/mp3/ and I tried using an absolute path, but it always says "/path/ is a directory"
[11:25] <wastrel> is there a web calendar type interface for evolution data server?
[11:26] <ApesMa> IndyGUnFreak: thanks, will give it a try.
[11:26] <malikeye> fatlip: inodes ? uh oh
[11:26] <normmac> ok is there anyway to enable a wireless card that normally needs the fn key to be enabled?
[11:26] <fatlip> :(
[11:26] <fatlip> corrupt filesystem, right?
[11:26] <malikeye> boot into a livecd and start fscking
[11:26] <fatlip> already did that
[11:26] <fatlip> it fixed all the errors
[11:26] <malikeye> damn
[11:26] <ubuntu> hey
[11:26] <fatlip> but now ubuntu is fsck'd ;)
[11:27] <malikeye> can you uninstall capplets-data ?
[11:27] <ubuntu> is someone know how to run Kerio mail on UBuntu
[11:27] <fatlip> it'll take gnome with it
[11:27] <malikeye> oh well :)
[11:27] <fatlip> is there a way to kill out capplets-data and leave everything else?
[11:27] <Nina_> I need help with my NVIDIA GFX (the open gl)   --- >     glxinfo | grep direct  returns:  Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:27] <Nina_> What do i do ?
[11:28] <pucko-> nina, I would guess that you need to reconfigure xserver-xorg and include GLX
[11:28] <fatlip> no?
[11:29] <malikeye> you try apt-get --fix-broken ?
[11:29] <fatlip> i will try that now
[11:29] <Nina_> pucko- : id love to if i knew how (are you swede btw...looking at your name)
[11:29] <fatlip> wait, is that really an option?
[11:29] <malikeye> man says it is
[11:29] <madman91> Failed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/dapper/main/binary-amd 64/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[11:29] <madman91>  ... I GET THIS when i put the wine repo in .. and i run sudo apt-get update
[11:30] <pucko-> nina, sjlvklart
[11:30] <fatlip> ughhh
[11:30] <fatlip> i'm about ready to just back up my crap and reinstall ubuntu
[11:30] <Rug> Howdy all
[11:30] <malikeye> fatlip: I'm not finding a --nodep like option
[11:30] <Nina_> pucko-: hrligt ^^ , orkar du ta ngon minut och ta mig igenom detta? har hllt p flera timmar *suck* frsker f beryl att fungera
[11:31] <katona> hello
[11:31] <wastrel> !se
[11:31] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[11:31] <normmac> ok i'm trying to use ndiswrapper and i ge tthis error: cp: cannot stat '/home/../desktop/bcmwl5.inf': no such file or directory
[11:31] <BjoeHrn> Can someone help me with Edgy and xchat? If Berly is started xchat can't use the speaker to make a "beep" also the terminal makes no beep when i press TAB anymore
[11:31] <Rug> I am trying to mount my USB key (which was working fine before I reinstalled my system) and I am getting an error message in mount.  "unknown filesystem type: vfat"     wtf??
[11:32] <Nina_> mer n vad jag visste, tack ubotu
[11:32] <Rug> isn't vfat built into the kernel?
[11:32] <malikeye> Rug: it should be
[11:32] <fatlip> now what
[11:32] <malikeye> Rug: you know what disk it is ?
[11:32] <Rug> malikeye: =)
[11:32] <madman91> Rug: i am no expert... try choosing 'auto' as the fs type
[11:32] <katona> i'am search compiler for hungary-English
[11:32] <malikeye> fatlip: yer screwed ? ;)
[11:32] <fatlip> figured as much lol
[11:32] <Rug> it is /dev/sdc1
[11:32] <Rug> madman91: auto doesn't work
[11:33] <fatlip> oh well.. i guess i'll do kubuntu this time.. i tend to go back and forth on installs
[11:33] <malikeye> Rug:  fdisk -l /dev/sdc
[11:33] <vmlemon> Thanks, in the end, I decided to use my Gentoo CD and chroot in
[11:33] <malikeye> fatlip: you try xubuntu yet ?
[11:33] <fatlip> yes
[11:33] <wastrel> gentoo eh
[11:33] <fatlip> its beautifully simple
[11:33] <markoutther1> Does anyone know of a good network discovery program I can run on Ubuntu that will map a network with a diagram and other details?
[11:33] <malikeye> I like it much better than kde
[11:33] <madman91> wine isnt in any of my repos.. ?
[11:33] <fatlip> i think i might do what i did the first time i ran edgy
[11:33] <vmlemon> wastrel: Yeah
[11:33] <madman91> and their repo doesnt work
[11:33] <fatlip> gnome + kde = :)
[11:33] <fatlip> some call it overkill
[11:33] <Rug> malikeye: what do you want to know?  (I can't copy/paste, I'm cli only right now)
[11:33] <fatlip> i call it pretty
[11:34] <malikeye> Rug: does it show a vfat filesystem ?
[11:34] <wastrel> markoutther1:  apt-cache search "network discovery"
[11:34] <Rug> malikeye: System:  W95 FAST32
[11:34] <Rug> ack
[11:34] <Rug> FAT32
[11:34] <malikeye> hmm
[11:34] <malikeye> and you can't mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/test ?
[11:34] <Rug> malikeye: nope
[11:35] <ivanoats> hi - I'm totally stuck, I did something to xorg.conf and now I can't even get to a shell...I tried alt-f4 and other f keys?
[11:35] <Rug> I can't fsck either
[11:35] <un_operateur> ivanoats, CTRL+ALT+F1
[11:35] <kitche> ivanoats: try ctrl+alt+f1
[11:35] <malikeye> you can't fsck a vfat filesystem I don't think
[11:35] <katona_> anybody know neurotran program for win??
[11:35] <Rug> ivanoats: try ctrl + alt + F2-F6
[11:35] <IndyGUnFreak> neurotran?..
[11:35] <katona_> yes
[11:35] <Rug> malikeye: it was worth I try I figured
[11:35] <malikeye> Rug: can you pastebin it for the hell of it ?
[11:36] <fatlip> luckily i keep everything in /home ;)
[11:36] <SyncopatedFool> what packages do i need to get windows media files to stream in firefox?
[11:36] <phud> fun
[11:36] <malikeye> fatlip: yeah, and a nice fileserver would be good :)
[11:36] <Rug> malikeye: no, I'm CLI only.  No mouse
[11:36] <un_operateur> !wmv | SyncopatedFool
[11:36] <ubotu> SyncopatedFool: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:36] <pucko-> hello. which process in ubuntu is responsible for finding and loading kernelmodules during boot in ubuntu? for some reason my modprobe config wont work correctly during boot (but it works when I modprobe it afterwards)
[11:36] <katona_> that's is a language compiler
[11:36] <fatlip> i got my NAS i'm backing up to :)
[11:36] <malikeye> nice
[11:36] <malikeye> what kind ?
[11:36] <fatlip> homebrew
[11:36] <fatlip> lol
[11:36] <un_operateur> pucko-, /etc/modules
[11:36] <ivanoats> no login prompts - just error messages
[11:36] <Rug> fatlip: best kind
[11:36] <IndyGUnFreak> How come X-Chat always goes to Konq as my defau;t browser
[11:36] <malikeye> nice.... got a 1.2TB gentoo box here, works awesome
[11:37] <fatlip> unfortunately its running windows
[11:37] <malikeye> software raid5 is great
[11:37] <Rug> a gentoo box runing Windows.  ;-P
[11:37] <fatlip> i've had the highest success rate recovering NTFS drives as opposed to fat/ext3
[11:37] <un_operateur> IndyGUnFreak, x-chat sends me to epiphany
[11:37] <IndyGUnFreak> lol
[11:37] <fatlip> i was going to make this a 2TB box, but i didnt have enough room in the case =/
[11:37] <IndyGUnFreak> well, i just double checked, my default browser is Firefox 2.0
[11:37] <malikeye> fatlip: I used JFS for years... I replaced like 3 drives and it worked great... using XFS now
[11:38] <fatlip> so now i just have some HDDs laying around =D
[11:38] <pucko-> un_operateur, that doesn't help me.
[11:38] <Rug> fatlip: do what I did.   Build a cluster, and just and more computers
[11:38] <un_operateur> pucko-, ok, that doesnt say much? how does it not help you?
[11:38] <malikeye> fatlip: there are some nice external sata enclosures these days... cheap too
[11:38] <fatlip> well thats why i built this in the first place, to reduce the amount of running computers
[11:38] <IndyGUnFreak> hey, i know, i've got a question.
[11:38] <IndyGUnFreak> unfortunatley i can't test it just yet.
[11:39] <CorpseFeeder> help me! I am trying to install edgy on Asus 88n sli motherboard. The ubuntu logo on black screen comes up then the screen goes all stripes and garbage and I can't see s*#t
[11:39] <IndyGUnFreak> but i've got a customer who i've had for several years, she's giving me a laptop her late husband had, because as she put it, "she can't even turn it on"..
[11:39] <IndyGUnFreak> well, will NDIswrapper allow me to use any wireless device?
[11:39] <fatlip> this means i'm gunna have to re-install xgl
[11:39] <CorpseFeeder> motherboard is A8N Sli
[11:39] <fatlip> damn beryl
[11:39] <malikeye> fatlip: install ? do you have an nvidia card ?
[11:39] <ivanoats> ktiche, Rug, un_operatueur - none of those worked... just some screens are blank with a flashing cursor, some have error messages like cannot allocate resource region 0 of device 0000:00:03.0
[11:40] <fatlip> maybe this time i'll just do it properly with aiglx
[11:40] <KING_LEORIK> FUCK
[11:40] <rogue780> I'm trying to install Lirc via the ubuntu wiki, and when I get to the point where it says to do "./setup.sh" I get the following error message: "dialog not found!" can someone help me with this?
[11:40] <IndyGUnFreak> lol
[11:40] <fatlip> KING_LEORIK: cant be THAT bad
[11:40] <IndyGUnFreak> thats what i thought fatlip...lol
[11:40] <fatlip> unless he lost like gigs and gigs of home-made porn
[11:40] <fatlip> then yeah, that deserves it
[11:40] <fatlip> happened to me once :( except it wasnt gigs and gigs
[11:41] <IndyGUnFreak> well. i guess that could happen
[11:41] <IndyGUnFreak> thats why its good to keep quality backups
[11:41] <KING_LEORIK>    !!!
[11:41] <bulio> in ubuntu, where is wine's C:\ dir?
[11:41] <fatlip> lol!
[11:41] <PriceChild> LjL,
[11:41] <KING_LEORIK> 
[11:41] <KING_LEORIK>   !
[11:41] <CorpseFeeder> i can't install edgy. save me
[11:41] <fatlip> hello wrong keyboard layout
[11:41] <kitche> KING_LEORIK: how about don't use UTF-8
[11:41] <name_> where is esddsp in ubu?
[11:41] <LjL> Ubotu, tell KING_LEORIK about ru | KING_LEORIK, see the private message from Ubotu
[11:41] <LjL> !en
[11:41] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[11:42] <KING_LEORIK> kitche:   
[11:42] <Flannel> bulio: in your home dir.  ~/.wine/ ... um, and then you'll see it
[11:42] <KING_LEORIK> kitche:   
[11:42] <bulio> Flannel,  thanks
[11:42] <fatlip> lol
[11:42] <Rug> bulio: ~/.wine/
[11:42] <malikeye> smart bot
[11:42] <CorpseFeeder> how dop I start the installer without the graphical interface, cos it just ain't working....!???
[11:42] <IndyGUnFreak> bulio, make sure you click "View, then Show hidden files"
[11:42] <name_> in which package there is esddsp
[11:42] <fatlip> i think before i reinstall ubuntu i'm gunna try osx ;)
[11:42] <Flannel> CorpseFeeder: get the alternate CD
[11:42] <malikeye> fatlip: you have supported hardware ?
[11:42] <thcrw8383> How can i start programs automaticly in KDE?
[11:43] <juano> hello every1
[11:43] <fatlip> yeah
[11:43] <fatlip> prescott =D
[11:43] <CorpseFeeder> isn't there anyway I can just disable the graphics on the normal install CD?
[11:43] <deep`> Is there any putty alteratives?
[11:43] <malikeye> I had it running WAY back... was slow as hell
[11:43] <katona_> nobody don't know neurotran , and don't help me?
[11:43] <fatlip> same here
[11:43] <Flannel> deep`: for.... ubuntu?
[11:43] <fatlip> but this is a new box
[11:43] <wastrel> deep`:  ssh in terminal
[11:43] <juano> for package forwarding in ubuntu? iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT?
[11:43] <malikeye> deep: putty is a terminal, as is gnome-terminal / konsole / Terminal
[11:43] <fatlip> and i decided to go with pretty over useful
[11:43] <fatlip> and went iwth a shuttle case
[11:44] <Flannel> CorpseFeeder: no.  The desktop CD knows nothing but the liveCD
[11:44] <normmac> whats the default root password
[11:44] <Flannel> !root | normmac, there is none, root is disabled.
[11:44] <ubotu> normmac, there is none, root is disabled.: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:44] <apokryphos> normmac: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[11:44] <CorpseFeeder> oh crap then :(
[11:44] <n2diy> normmac: your passwd
[11:44] <normmac> ok
[11:44] <fatlip> half hour til this backup is done
[11:44] <normmac> thanks
[11:44] <fatlip> i suppose i'll go take a shower considering its already almost 6PM
[11:44] <ivanoats> can I boot ubuntu into a text shell mode? I just need to replace my xorg.conf file with a backup I made
[11:45] <malikeye> deep`: sorry, it's not a terminal, it's an SSH client... but you should be able to just open any terminal and use ssh ... there is a putty linux port out there though
[11:45] <kitche> deep: no there is not any alternatives but what putty can do can be done in shell or a terminal
[11:45] <CorpseFeeder> There is a working Dapper installation on this computer... can I use the Edgy live CD to upgrade that?
[11:45] <PriceChild> ivanoats, once booted, CTRL+ALT+F1
[11:45] <Flannel> CorpseFeeder: no, you can use the edgy alternate CD though
[11:45] <malikeye> !putty
[11:45] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[11:45] <fatlip> putty is sweet
[11:45] <dm_> Anyone know a good mp3 editor that can increase the volume on that MP3
[11:45] <ivanoats> PriceChild, I tried that, it didn't work - gives an error PCI: Cannot allocate resource region
[11:45] <deep`> malikeye, yep, i know. ( : but i need an alternative anyway :D
[11:45] <CorpseFeeder> ok
[11:45] <Gosha> !bluetooth
[11:45] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[11:46] <wastrel> anyone know of a web calendar type interface with evolution?
[11:46] <malikeye> deep`: what do you mean by alternative ?
[11:46] <Flannel> deep`: an alternative for putty in *nix? or in windows?  or what?
[11:46] <PriceChild> ivanoats, that's very odd.... I haven't a clue why you've got that... but you can still load a live cd and mount the drive to edit it....
[11:46] <fatlip> okay i'm gunna go shower -- thanks for the help attempt!
[11:46] <malikeye> fatlip: good lucj :)
[11:46] <PriceChild> ivanoats, that still needs fixing though...
[11:46] <malikeye> luckeven
[11:46] <deep`> malikeye; like "bitvise", like someone said. :)
[11:46] <deep`> Flannel, windows.
[11:46] <dm_> Anyone know a good mp3 editor that can increase the volume on that MP3
[11:47] <deep`> The thing is, i have a domain using utf-8 characters, and putty cant translate them..
[11:47] <IndyGUnFreak> How do you clear an IP address on Ubuntu Edgy... here's the problem I had.
[11:47] <Flannel> deep`: yes it can.  Set your char encoding to utf-8
[11:47] <ppd> hi
[11:47] <IndyGUnFreak> esterday, my ISP went down, when it was restarted, i couldn't get my router to recognize the connection anymore
[11:47] <IndyGUnFreak> but straight to PC, it was fine
[11:47] <BlueEagle> deep`: did you set it to use utf-8 under "Translation"?
[11:47] <IndyGUnFreak> so i assume i need to clear the IP, and set it to re-recognize it.
[11:48] <kitche> IndyGUnFreak: you might had to unplug your router and replug it in it works most of the time
[11:48] <IndyGUnFreak> hmm, never thougt of that
[11:48] <malikeye> IndyGUnFreak: what do you mean clear it ? reset your modem
[11:48] <IndyGUnFreak> no...
[11:48] <IndyGUnFreak> here's what i think happened
[11:48] <IndyGUnFreak> i think when the ISP went down, it either reassigned me a new IP address or something
[11:48] <deep`> Flannel, BlueEagle, that not translating the domain, i've tried, just works when your actually "typing stuff on the computer"
[11:48] <IndyGUnFreak> and my router lost track of all that.
[11:48] <un_operateur> IndyGUnFreak, sudo sh -c "ifdown eth0; ifupeth0; /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[11:48] <malikeye> IndyGUnFreak: did you power cycle both the modem and the router ?
[11:48] <IndyGUnFreak> of course malikeye
[11:49] <un_operateur> IndyGUnFreak, oops, typo -- sudo sh -c "ifdown eth0; ifup eth0; /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[11:49] <IndyGUnFreak> even reset them both
[11:49] <ppd> is there a tool, beside easytag. that crawls a mp3/ogg collection, removes duplicates and then renames all the files in a given way?
[11:49] <IndyGUnFreak> un, what exactly does that to?
[11:49] <IndyGUnFreak> oh i get it, nevermind
[11:49] <un_operateur> IndyGUnFreak, flaps the interface and restarts the networking daemon
[11:49] <IndyGUnFreak> IFdown, takes downt he address
[11:49] <IndyGUnFreak> ifdup, reassigns
[11:49] <malikeye> flaps... I just learned that term a couple weeks ago :)
[11:49] <PriceChild> ppd, I use amarok to manage my collection.... I think it does all that
[11:50] <PriceChild> ppd, not sure on the removing duplicates automatically... I think it should find them for you
[11:50] <ppd> PriceChild, does ist rename the files?
[11:50] <un_operateur> malikeye, it wasnt at a cisco class was it? :)
[11:50] <PriceChild> ppd, It DEFINATELY renames and reorganises files how you want it
[11:50] <malikeye> un_operateur: it came from the switch :)
[11:50] <malikeye> 2950 most likely
[11:50] <juano> anyone know how to route with Ubuntu?
[11:51] <ppd> PriceChild, interesting. you don't happen to know a gtk equivalent that does the same? rythmbox does not as far as I can see
[11:51] <Unix> hi
[11:51] <un_operateur> malikeye, ahh maybe -- they use the term a lot when they deal with ISDN interfaces
[11:51] <Unix> anyone know if there is a software to synchronise samsung D520 with ubuntu
[11:51] <malikeye> un_operateur: I believe it was a nagios report
[11:52] <malikeye> about the switch
[11:53] <PriceChild> ppd, i use amarok in gnome.... i really think it looks fine
[11:53] <blinx> how I can update python 2.4 to 2.5 without problems?
[11:53] <PriceChild> ppd, amarok is THE music player IMO
[11:53] <PriceChild> blinx, you can't "without problems"
[11:53] <malikeye> ppd: exaile is a gtk clone
[11:53] <blinx> PriceChild: hm
[11:53] <blinx> PriceChild: little problems?
[11:53] <malikeye> ppd: of amarok
[11:53] <PriceChild> blinx, ?
[11:53] <blinx> I'm using a server with ubuntu edgy 64
[11:53] <ppd> malikeye, PriceChild, thank you. I'll have a look
[11:54] <un_operateur> blinx, errm, you'll have to find out? I wouldn't do it unless I really really needed 2.5
[11:54] <blinx> PriceChild: how can I do that?!
[11:54] <sky_sky_sky> hi
[11:54] <blinx> I want to minimize the used memory
[11:54] <PriceChild> blinx, it will require recompiling a LOT of packages
[11:54] <blinx> PriceChild: how many time is needed?
[11:54] <PriceChild> blinx, then upgrading isn't worth it
[11:54] <sky_sky_sky> hi
[11:54] <sky_sky_sky> :)
[11:54] <PriceChild> blinx, not just time but effort knowlede etc.
[11:54] <apokryphos> hello
[11:54] <PriceChild> sky_sky_sky, heya
[11:54] <malikeye> python is picky... upgrading can be bad
[11:54] <blinx> PriceChild: I will do it
[11:54] <blinx> PriceChild: what I have to do?
[11:55] <PriceChild> blinx, I don't think  you understand how much work this would be
[11:55] <PriceChild> blinx, I doubt you'll get less memory usage either
[11:55] <blinx> PriceChild: I installed gentoo some time before
[11:55] <malikeye> you will need to recompile all packages that use python
[11:55] <blinx> I needed 2 days
[11:55] <juano> anyone know how to forward packages from eth0 to eth1?>
[11:55] <malikeye> !homerouter
[11:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about homerouter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:55] <juano> i have dhcp working good, but no internet on the other comp
[11:55] <blinx> PriceChild: mh, the py community told me that...
[11:55] <malikeye> !routing
[11:56] <PriceChild> blinx, wow... so have I... and I wouldn't recompile python in ubuntu
[11:56] <normmac> ok so i installed drivers using ndiswrappper for my wireless card, but i can't enable the card because it needs the Fn key to enable it, anyway to fix this?
[11:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about routing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:56] <malikeye> !route
[11:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about route - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:56] <juano> k thanks
[11:56] <malikeye> no love
[11:56] <PriceChild> normmac, you don't really need the Fn key ;)
[11:56] <normmac> how do you do it then?
[11:56] <blinx> PriceChild: ok. I have only 192mb memory in my xen instance, lighty with trac + moin is running
[11:57] <blinx> but if I want to use some php things, I will get problems, all memory is used
[11:57] <zOrK> how can I share internet with pc 2 running on ubuntu?
[11:57] <blinx> how can I minimize that?
[11:57] <zOrK> and pc1 running on ubuntu as well
[11:57] <normmac> PreiceChild, how do you enabel it without the Fn key?
[11:57] <UPC> hi
[11:57] <UPC> is there anything bad with using "apt-get" instead of "aptitude" ?  I just like  "apt-get" more but I heard   "aptitude" would be better for the system.  Whats the truth?
[11:57] <LjL> Ubotu, tell UPC about aptitude | UPC, see the private message from Ubotu
[11:57] <malikeye> they are both better than synaptic
[11:57] <thoreauputic> UPC: aptitude is smarter
[11:57] <PriceChild> blinx, I do not know every package that will need recompiling... but its every package that depends on python
[11:57] <malikeye> apt-get supossedly has better dep checks
[11:58] <LjL> UPC: note that the automatic removal of dependencies is now implemented in Edgy's apt-get, too
[11:58] <thoreauputic> malikeye: other way around
[11:58] <malikeye> hmmm
[11:58] <PriceChild> blinx, you will need to grab the source for it all and know ALL the configuration flags you need for each
[11:58] <smithj> is there a way to get commit mail for ubuntu packages?
[11:58] <blinx> oO
[11:58] <UPC> LjL: so apt-get and aptitude won't make a difference any more?
[11:58] <alecjw> UPC: aptitude automatically removes pacakges which were installd as dependencies, but aren't needed
[11:58] <Gosha> gah! i cant get my bluetooth to work >_<
[11:58] <un_operateur> UPC, aptitude remembers dependencies of packages, so that when you remove the original package it suggests you remove the unneeded dependencies too
[11:58] <malikeye> maybe I was reading a comparison between apt-get and synaptic only
[11:58] <blinx> PriceChild: do you have a link of a howto?
[11:58] <Gosha> .. i can send blutooth stuff via the obex push thing .. but cant recieve anythin
[11:58] <Gosha> g
[11:59] <LjL> UPC: well, that's not completely true. i don't really know the details, but i'm pretty sure the autoremoval, right now, does *not* work in exactly the same way in apt-get vs aptitude
[11:59] <OkinawaInstructo> can someone help me set up a Lexmark X125 printer.. i have it set up, and it acts like its printing but when the paper comes out its a bunch of jiberish
[11:59] <LjL> (namely, aptitude's works better, but anyway)
[11:59] <UPC> I only found out on dapper that there were programs which with unsolved dependecies using aptitude,  but they were installable with apt-get
[11:59] <PriceChild> blinx, there is no howto...
[11:59] <blinx> PriceChild: hm
[11:59] <PriceChild> blinx, you _just_ don't do this
[11:59] <un_operateur> blinx, have you tried this -- sudo aptitude install python=2.5    or  sudo aptitude install python2.5  ?
[12:00] <PriceChild> is python2.5 in the repos for him?
[12:00] <blinx> un_operateur: no, I asked before
[12:00] <ToHellWithGA> i need to add refresh rates to the list provided by gnome.  i have my horizontal sync and vertical refresh ranges set properly in xorg.conf but only see 60Hz when picking a resolution.
[12:00] <malikeye> I have seen apt-get install more stuff than aptitude would have, but I don't remove stuff regularly, so I am not sure about reverse dep resolution
[12:00] <blinx> it is in the repos
[12:00] <PriceChild> argh
[12:00] <UPC> ok so I will use aptitude
[12:00] <UPC> thank you guys!
[12:00] <PriceChild> blinx, then uninstall 2.4 and install 2.5....
[12:00] <LjL> malikeye: actually, that's the reverse too... since, by default, aptitude installs Recommends as well as Depends, while apt-get does not
[12:00] <Pelo> ok I have very nearly been able to restore all my settings,  execpt for  the evolution stuff ,  I need more help