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jdongyum, feasty fawn12:28
jdongbut that's a bit too close to yeasty fawn12:29
Jucatoheh :)12:29
Jucatohow about fiesty fawn? anyone up for a fiesta? :)12:29
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goldenearjdong: too close ? we have 4 mounths yet :)12:46
Riddellgoldenear: what's miredo?12:48
goldenearit's teredo for Linux12:48
Riddellaah12:48
Riddellwhat's teredo?12:49
goldenearhttp://www.simphalempin.com/dev/miredo/12:49
goldenearbasicaly teredo is an IPv6 transition mechanism....12:49
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goldenearIt permits any host (connected to internet) to have a public IPv6 address, even hosts behind nats12:51
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Riddellall sounds like a bit nasty, nicer to have an ISP that actually gives you ipv6 addresses properly12:53
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Riddellooh ooh ooh01:02
Riddellit's my birthday!01:02
goldenearreally ?01:02
Riddelltruely01:03
goldenearHappy birthday then !!!01:03
Riddellthanks :)01:03
goldenearyou're not luck to be born so close to christmas :)01:04
Riddelloh I like it01:04
goldenearyou have all your presents only one time in the year...01:04
Riddellmeans everyone is on holiday and happy and you don't have to go into school/work01:04
goldenearthat's the good part of it :)01:05
goldenearyour an optimistic guy :)01:05
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goldenearI wish your next year will be even better :)01:07
goldenearabout Teredo/Miredo, it's not nasty...01:07
goldenearIt's really useful because we'll have to wait a pretty long time until native ipv6 is everywhere...01:07
Riddellbut what's the use if ipv6 isn't available everywhere?01:08
goldenearI use it on my laptop. when I'm at home, Miredo is not used as I have a native ipv6 connection, but when I'm travelling, this is at the moment the only way to have ipv601:09
goldenearI use it on my laptop so I can connect directly to any of my computers at home or at work (each of them have a public ipv6 address, either native or 6to4)01:10
goldenearI recently use miredo for something very nice: I've been able to receive a TV stream from my home server on my laptop. I was in an hotel, connected to the internet via a NATed wifi connection...01:13
goldenearwith Miredo/Teredo I don't care about the nat as I get a public IP (v6) address... That's why I have been able to receive the stream.01:14
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goldenearThe other solution to do it would be to use a VPN... but it's more complicated (and is intented for a more specific use)01:14
goldenear<Riddell> but what's the use if ipv6 isn't available everywhere? <-- with teredo IPv6 is available everywhere :)01:18
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Riddellgoldenear: would you be able to get me a screenshot of the old qt-language-selector?01:37
Riddellonly if you have it installed01:37
Riddelloh never mind, I have it here01:38
apokryphosRiddell: happy birthday; hope you have a good one :)01:50
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JucatoRiddell: happy birthday!!!! :)02:10
tomaRiddell: congrats!!!02:21
mhbRiddell: happy birthday02:37
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nixternalhappy birthday Riddell!03:36
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ryanakcahappy birthday Riddell!04:57
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mptWhere do I report a problem with the Kubuntu Web site?04:58
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mpt*crickets*05:27
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yuriyi think i'm late to the party07:08
yuriyhappy birthday Riddell!!07:08
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nixternalmpt: https://bugs.launchpad.net/products/kubuntu-website/+bugs07:57
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Hobbseewhy must all clients suck for imap?10:05
Hobbseethey either crash or dont handle spam well10:08
Hobbsee</rant>10:08
mhbHobbsee: how many of them crashes?10:10
Hobbseemhb: kmail, mainly10:11
Hobbseei've also crashed thunderbird a couple of times - but kmail has crashed twice in 20 min10:11
alleeHobbsee: with imap spam needs to be handled server side. Not much a imap client can sensibly do10:11
Hobbseeallee: that's true, but if the server isnt doing it, at least the client could filter it?10:12
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Riddellmpt: kubuntu website is done by me10:33
Riddellmpt: pinging me with problems is best10:34
Riddellor submitting patches, it's in bzr as the kubuntu-website product10:34
mptRiddell, the download page says "usning"10:35
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mpthttp://www.kubuntu.org/download.php10:35
mpt(Also, it's generally more polite to use the word "you" instead of "users":-)10:36
mptHobbsee, I know of two good Imap clients: (1) Apple Mail (Mac), and (2) Netscape 4.9 (any platform) :-(10:39
Riddellmpt: done10:45
mptBravo on both points10:47
Riddellthanks10:47
mpt(My girlfriend was considering downloading Kubuntu Edgy, but I persuaded her installing from an Ubuntu CD then installing kubuntu-desktop would be quicker. As it turned out, Edgy doesn't recognize her display, so now we're looking for my Dapper CD.)10:48
Hobbseeallee: i have logs :)10:55
Hobbseempt: heh.  that's not really a help10:55
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alleeHobbsee: sorry didn't kept a backup :)10:55
Hobbseeallee: shame.10:57
alleeHobbsee: remind toma about the problem.  Maybe he adds something to mailody ;)10:57
Hobbseeallee: will do.  toma todo:  Make mailody Not Suck like all mail clients10:57
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mhbis there any chance of Telepathy making it into Kopete Feisty? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyTelepathy is labeled "Good Progress" but I'm not sure if it includes Kopete.11:00
Hobbseemhb: ask me about that when i come back11:01
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Hobbseemhb: indeed.11:30
Hobbseeallee: thanks :)  i dont drink tea, btw :)11:31
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Hobbseemhb: now what's this about telepathy?11:31
HobbseeRiddell: what are we going to do about this data loss bug?11:32
mhbHobbsee: I wanted to know if somebody is implementing that into Kopete as part of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyTelepathy11:33
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Hobbseemhb: nope.  magic wand seems not to want to work today11:34
mhbHobbsee: that means no?11:36
Hobbseemhb: right, so how does that fit in with kopete?  is there a patch, or does someone need to make one?11:36
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mhbHobbsee: I know little about the progress of the implementation, but they have listed Kopete as software that will use it and the progress is labeled "Good" ... so I thought someone is working on that11:39
Hobbseemhb: fdoving might be11:39
Hobbseemhb: dholbach tends to head that up11:40
Hobbseewhere does it llist the progress, sorry?11:40
mhbhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/feisty-telepathy11:40
mhbImplementation:  Good progress11:40
Hobbseemhb: right.  from the actual spec, i think they've got most of the packages in the archive at the current time11:41
Luremhb: I think dholbach is also working with decibel authors for inclusion12:02
Luremhb: http://basysblog.org/index.php/archives/merry-christmas-everybody12:02
Hobbseehey Lure!12:03
Lurehi Hobbsee - almost Xmas at your place?12:04
Lure;-)12:04
Hobbseeyep12:04
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Hobbseeis it Riddell's birthday?12:29
HobbseeRiddell: what would be your opinion of running a bzr repo for stuff like kdebase?12:30
fdovingHobbsee: i'm pro a bzr repo for the debian/ dirs only.12:32
Hobbseefdoving: sounds sane12:32
fdovingmuch like svn.debian.org12:32
fdovingit's not like we ever change anything in the orig.tar.gz anyway. if we do, it's done in debian/patches/12:33
fdovingand a debian/rules target to get the orig.tar.gz from upstream with the help of debian/watch files would be very very nice.12:34
fdovingthat's how the debian-kde guys do it.12:37
Hobbseeah, today12:38
Hobbseehappy birthday Riddell!12:38
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fdovinghappy b-day riddell. :)12:44
HobbseeDo not crash when deleting a message while saving it. See SVN commit 598927.  <-- excellent, that might fix one of my major problems with kmail12:46
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superstonedRiddell: happy birthday!04:35
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Riddellthanks superstoned et al06:17
Riddellnew mailody out I see06:17
tomayep06:17
tomaRiddell: should i request a new sync or wait untill it is out of the new queue first?06:17
Riddellmay as well wait, nobody will be syncing until new year06:18
tomaokay06:18
tomai've put feisty package up on sf anyhow, so no rush.06:19
alleetoma: set up a repo.  So the lazy people can use apt-get ;)06:24
tomaallee: ;-) I thought that is where you kick in06:25
alleetoma: if you wish, no problem ;)  But next hours my uplink is busy uploading digikam & co for dapper.   I'll upload them later, feisty, edgy, dapper please ;)06:26
tomaallee: great!06:27
tomado you need anything from me?06:27
tomai've uploaded all three bins to sf.net06:27
alleetoma: what about  .diff.gz .orig.tar.gz and .dsc.   but if you don't sue me when I distribute binaries without sources, it's not really necessary06:29
alleeOkay, christmas time NOW!   I wish all nice days!06:30
alleebye06:30
tomabye06:30
nixternalwhen is the next kde4 snapshot due out?06:32
tomanixternal: afaik it is not planned06:32
nixternalok, just checking as i didn't catch it on d.k.o06:33
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nixternalnice, kde4 kdm splash has the akademy pic of everbody06:57
apokryphosyeah. So many of them 8)07:03
nixternalhehe07:04
nixternali swore the kde4 snapshot told me to play with konqi, but it doesn't work :(07:04
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nixternalif only i didn't mispell export as expord :)07:10
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mhbeveryone celebrating?09:49
bddebianw000t :-)10:02
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