[12:28] <jdong> yum, feasty fawn
[12:29] <jdong> but that's a bit too close to yeasty fawn
[12:29] <Jucato> heh :)
[12:29] <Jucato> how about fiesty fawn? anyone up for a fiesta? :)
[12:46] <goldenear> jdong: too close ? we have 4 mounths yet :)
[12:48] <Riddell> goldenear: what's miredo?
[12:48] <goldenear> it's teredo for Linux
[12:48] <Riddell> aah
[12:49] <Riddell> what's teredo?
[12:49] <goldenear> http://www.simphalempin.com/dev/miredo/
[12:49] <goldenear> basicaly teredo is an IPv6 transition mechanism....
[12:51] <goldenear> It permits any host (connected to internet) to have a public IPv6 address, even hosts behind nats
[12:53] <Riddell> all sounds like a bit nasty, nicer to have an ISP that actually gives you ipv6 addresses properly
[01:02] <Riddell> ooh ooh ooh
[01:02] <Riddell> it's my birthday!
[01:02] <goldenear> really ?
[01:03] <Riddell> truely
[01:03] <goldenear> Happy birthday then !!!
[01:03] <Riddell> thanks :)
[01:04] <goldenear> you're not luck to be born so close to christmas :)
[01:04] <Riddell> oh I like it
[01:04] <goldenear> you have all your presents only one time in the year...
[01:04] <Riddell> means everyone is on holiday and happy and you don't have to go into school/work
[01:05] <goldenear> that's the good part of it :)
[01:05] <goldenear> your an optimistic guy :)
[01:07] <goldenear> I wish your next year will be even better :)
[01:07] <goldenear> about Teredo/Miredo, it's not nasty...
[01:07] <goldenear> It's really useful because we'll have to wait a pretty long time until native ipv6 is everywhere...
[01:08] <Riddell> but what's the use if ipv6 isn't available everywhere?
[01:09] <goldenear> I use it on my laptop. when I'm at home, Miredo is not used as I have a native ipv6 connection, but when I'm travelling, this is at the moment the only way to have ipv6
[01:10] <goldenear> I use it on my laptop so I can connect directly to any of my computers at home or at work (each of them have a public ipv6 address, either native or 6to4)
[01:13] <goldenear> I recently use miredo for something very nice: I've been able to receive a TV stream from my home server on my laptop. I was in an hotel, connected to the internet via a NATed wifi connection...
[01:14] <goldenear> with Miredo/Teredo I don't care about the nat as I get a public IP (v6) address... That's why I have been able to receive the stream.
[01:14] <goldenear> The other solution to do it would be to use a VPN... but it's more complicated (and is intented for a more specific use)
 but what's the use if ipv6 isn't available everywhere? <-- with teredo IPv6 is available everywhere :)
[01:37] <Riddell> goldenear: would you be able to get me a screenshot of the old qt-language-selector?
[01:37] <Riddell> only if you have it installed
[01:38] <Riddell> oh never mind, I have it here
[01:50] <apokryphos> Riddell: happy birthday; hope you have a good one :)
[02:10] <Jucato> Riddell: happy birthday!!!! :)
[02:21] <toma> Riddell: congrats!!!
[02:37] <mhb> Riddell: happy birthday
[03:36] <nixternal> happy birthday Riddell!
[04:57] <ryanakca> happy birthday Riddell!
[04:58] <mpt> Where do I report a problem with the Kubuntu Web site?
[05:27] <mpt> *crickets*
[07:08] <yuriy> i think i'm late to the party
[07:08] <yuriy> happy birthday Riddell!!
[07:57] <nixternal> mpt: https://bugs.launchpad.net/products/kubuntu-website/+bugs
[10:05] <Hobbsee> why must all clients suck for imap?
[10:08] <Hobbsee> they either crash or dont handle spam well
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[10:10] <mhb> Hobbsee: how many of them crashes?
[10:11] <Hobbsee> mhb: kmail, mainly
[10:11] <Hobbsee> i've also crashed thunderbird a couple of times - but kmail has crashed twice in 20 min
[10:11] <allee> Hobbsee: with imap spam needs to be handled server side. Not much a imap client can sensibly do
[10:12] <Hobbsee> allee: that's true, but if the server isnt doing it, at least the client could filter it?
[10:33] <Riddell> mpt: kubuntu website is done by me
[10:34] <Riddell> mpt: pinging me with problems is best
[10:34] <Riddell> or submitting patches, it's in bzr as the kubuntu-website product
[10:35] <mpt> Riddell, the download page says "usning"
[10:35] <mpt> http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[10:36] <mpt> (Also, it's generally more polite to use the word "you" instead of "users":-)
[10:39] <mpt> Hobbsee, I know of two good Imap clients: (1) Apple Mail (Mac), and (2) Netscape 4.9 (any platform) :-(
[10:45] <Riddell> mpt: done
[10:47] <mpt> Bravo on both points
[10:47] <Riddell> thanks
[10:48] <mpt> (My girlfriend was considering downloading Kubuntu Edgy, but I persuaded her installing from an Ubuntu CD then installing kubuntu-desktop would be quicker. As it turned out, Edgy doesn't recognize her display, so now we're looking for my Dapper CD.)
[10:55] <Hobbsee> allee: i have logs :)
[10:55] <Hobbsee> mpt: heh.  that's not really a help
[10:55] <allee> Hobbsee: sorry didn't kept a backup :)
[10:57] <Hobbsee> allee: shame.
[10:57] <allee> Hobbsee: remind toma about the problem.  Maybe he adds something to mailody ;)
[10:57] <Hobbsee> allee: will do.  toma todo:  Make mailody Not Suck like all mail clients
[11:00] <mhb> is there any chance of Telepathy making it into Kopete Feisty? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyTelepathy is labeled "Good Progress" but I'm not sure if it includes Kopete.
[11:01] <Hobbsee> mhb: ask me about that when i come back
[11:30] <Hobbsee> mhb: indeed.
[11:31] <Hobbsee> allee: thanks :)  i dont drink tea, btw :)
[11:31] <Hobbsee> mhb: now what's this about telepathy?
[11:32] <Hobbsee> Riddell: what are we going to do about this data loss bug?
[11:33] <mhb> Hobbsee: I wanted to know if somebody is implementing that into Kopete as part of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyTelepathy
[11:34] <Hobbsee> mhb: nope.  magic wand seems not to want to work today
[11:36] <mhb> Hobbsee: that means no?
[11:36] <Hobbsee> mhb: right, so how does that fit in with kopete?  is there a patch, or does someone need to make one?
[11:39] <mhb> Hobbsee: I know little about the progress of the implementation, but they have listed Kopete as software that will use it and the progress is labeled "Good" ... so I thought someone is working on that
[11:39] <Hobbsee> mhb: fdoving might be
[11:40] <Hobbsee> mhb: dholbach tends to head that up
[11:40] <Hobbsee> where does it llist the progress, sorry?
[11:40] <mhb> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/feisty-telepathy
[11:40] <mhb> Implementation:  Good progress
[11:41] <Hobbsee> mhb: right.  from the actual spec, i think they've got most of the packages in the archive at the current time
[12:02] <Lure> mhb: I think dholbach is also working with decibel authors for inclusion
[12:02] <Lure> mhb: http://basysblog.org/index.php/archives/merry-christmas-everybody
[12:03] <Hobbsee> hey Lure!
[12:04] <Lure> hi Hobbsee - almost Xmas at your place?
[12:04] <Lure> ;-)
[12:04] <Hobbsee> yep
[12:29] <Hobbsee> is it Riddell's birthday?
[12:30] <Hobbsee> Riddell: what would be your opinion of running a bzr repo for stuff like kdebase?
[12:32] <fdoving> Hobbsee: i'm pro a bzr repo for the debian/ dirs only.
[12:32] <Hobbsee> fdoving: sounds sane
[12:32] <fdoving> much like svn.debian.org
[12:33] <fdoving> it's not like we ever change anything in the orig.tar.gz anyway. if we do, it's done in debian/patches/
[12:34] <fdoving> and a debian/rules target to get the orig.tar.gz from upstream with the help of debian/watch files would be very very nice.
[12:37] <fdoving> that's how the debian-kde guys do it.
[12:38] <Hobbsee> ah, today
[12:38] <Hobbsee> happy birthday Riddell!
[12:44] <fdoving> happy b-day riddell. :)
[12:46] <Hobbsee> Do not crash when deleting a message while saving it. See SVN commit 598927.  <-- excellent, that might fix one of my major problems with kmail
[04:35] <superstoned> Riddell: happy birthday!
[06:17] <Riddell> thanks superstoned et al
[06:17] <Riddell> new mailody out I see
[06:17] <toma> yep
[06:17] <toma> Riddell: should i request a new sync or wait untill it is out of the new queue first?
[06:18] <Riddell> may as well wait, nobody will be syncing until new year
[06:18] <toma> okay
[06:19] <toma> i've put feisty package up on sf anyhow, so no rush.
[06:24] <allee> toma: set up a repo.  So the lazy people can use apt-get ;)
[06:25] <toma> allee: ;-) I thought that is where you kick in
[06:26] <allee> toma: if you wish, no problem ;)  But next hours my uplink is busy uploading digikam & co for dapper.   I'll upload them later, feisty, edgy, dapper please ;)
[06:27] <toma> allee: great!
[06:27] <toma> do you need anything from me?
[06:27] <toma> i've uploaded all three bins to sf.net
[06:29] <allee> toma: what about  .diff.gz .orig.tar.gz and .dsc.   but if you don't sue me when I distribute binaries without sources, it's not really necessary
[06:30] <allee> Okay, christmas time NOW!   I wish all nice days!
[06:30] <allee> bye
[06:30] <toma> bye
[06:32] <nixternal> when is the next kde4 snapshot due out?
[06:32] <toma> nixternal: afaik it is not planned
[06:33] <nixternal> ok, just checking as i didn't catch it on d.k.o
[06:57] <nixternal> nice, kde4 kdm splash has the akademy pic of everbody
[07:03] <apokryphos> yeah. So many of them 8)
[07:04] <nixternal> hehe
[07:04] <nixternal> i swore the kde4 snapshot told me to play with konqi, but it doesn't work :(
[07:10] <nixternal> if only i didn't mispell export as expord :)
[09:49] <mhb> everyone celebrating?
[10:02] <bddebian> w000t :-)