[12:28] yum, feasty fawn [12:29] but that's a bit too close to yeasty fawn [12:29] heh :) [12:29] how about fiesty fawn? anyone up for a fiesta? :) === poningru [n=poningru@pool-71-251-119-157.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121e25.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:46] jdong: too close ? we have 4 mounths yet :) [12:48] goldenear: what's miredo? [12:48] it's teredo for Linux [12:48] aah [12:49] what's teredo? [12:49] http://www.simphalempin.com/dev/miredo/ [12:49] basicaly teredo is an IPv6 transition mechanism.... === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:51] It permits any host (connected to internet) to have a public IPv6 address, even hosts behind nats === toma_ is now known as toma [12:53] all sounds like a bit nasty, nicer to have an ISP that actually gives you ipv6 addresses properly === pinheiro [n=pinheiro@bl4-218-207.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pascalFR [i=2UbeSUdl@cha92-7-82-230-174-61.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:02] ooh ooh ooh [01:02] it's my birthday! [01:02] really ? [01:03] truely [01:03] Happy birthday then !!! [01:03] thanks :) [01:04] you're not luck to be born so close to christmas :) [01:04] oh I like it [01:04] you have all your presents only one time in the year... [01:04] means everyone is on holiday and happy and you don't have to go into school/work [01:05] that's the good part of it :) [01:05] your an optimistic guy :) === Riddell ticks off another successfully completed year on the wallchart of life [01:07] I wish your next year will be even better :) [01:07] about Teredo/Miredo, it's not nasty... [01:07] It's really useful because we'll have to wait a pretty long time until native ipv6 is everywhere... [01:08] but what's the use if ipv6 isn't available everywhere? [01:09] I use it on my laptop. when I'm at home, Miredo is not used as I have a native ipv6 connection, but when I'm travelling, this is at the moment the only way to have ipv6 [01:10] I use it on my laptop so I can connect directly to any of my computers at home or at work (each of them have a public ipv6 address, either native or 6to4) [01:13] I recently use miredo for something very nice: I've been able to receive a TV stream from my home server on my laptop. I was in an hotel, connected to the internet via a NATed wifi connection... [01:14] with Miredo/Teredo I don't care about the nat as I get a public IP (v6) address... That's why I have been able to receive the stream. === ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121e25.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:14] The other solution to do it would be to use a VPN... but it's more complicated (and is intented for a more specific use) [01:18] but what's the use if ipv6 isn't available everywhere? <-- with teredo IPv6 is available everywhere :) === ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121e25.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nuku_ [n=j@unaffiliated/nuku] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:37] goldenear: would you be able to get me a screenshot of the old qt-language-selector? [01:37] only if you have it installed [01:38] oh never mind, I have it here [01:50] Riddell: happy birthday; hope you have a good one :) === orkid [n=orkid@bas1-barrie18-1242374010.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:10] Riddell: happy birthday!!!! :) [02:21] Riddell: congrats!!! [02:37] Riddell: happy birthday === UbuntuStats [n=StatsBot@bl4-191-101.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:36] happy birthday Riddell! === nnewton [n=nnewton@osuosl/staff/nnewton] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tonyyserver [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ryanakca joins the party... [04:57] happy birthday Riddell! === lnxkde [n=vlos@206.248.123.32] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-128-188.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:58] Where do I report a problem with the Kubuntu Web site? === ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121e25.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:27] *crickets* === robotgeek [n=robotgee@c-71-207-201-224.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.69.149] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-014-146.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === czessi_ [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-016-168.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Ash-Fox [i=UNKNOWN@fgd182.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #Kubuntu-devel === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-016-168.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:08] i think i'm late to the party [07:08] happy birthday Riddell!! === jack_at_home [n=jack@221.223.39.238] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:57] mpt: https://bugs.launchpad.net/products/kubuntu-website/+bugs === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee wishes that kmail would stop crashing === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-128-137.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee sighs [10:05] why must all clients suck for imap? [10:08] they either crash or dont handle spam well [10:08] [10:10] Hobbsee: how many of them crashes? [10:11] mhb: kmail, mainly [10:11] i've also crashed thunderbird a couple of times - but kmail has crashed twice in 20 min [10:11] Hobbsee: with imap spam needs to be handled server side. Not much a imap client can sensibly do [10:12] allee: that's true, but if the server isnt doing it, at least the client could filter it? === Hobbsee kicks elmo into getting a decent filter on all the ubuntu.com/kubuntu.org mail === Hobbsee is off === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee deletes his 8 pages of details infos how to do it as Hobbsee is off ;) [10:33] mpt: kubuntu website is done by me [10:34] mpt: pinging me with problems is best [10:34] or submitting patches, it's in bzr as the kubuntu-website product [10:35] Riddell, the download page says "usning" === pascalFR [i=n5Ijlyyf@cha92-7-82-230-174-61.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:35] http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php [10:36] (Also, it's generally more polite to use the word "you" instead of "users":-) [10:39] Hobbsee, I know of two good Imap clients: (1) Apple Mail (Mac), and (2) Netscape 4.9 (any platform) :-( [10:45] mpt: done [10:47] Bravo on both points [10:47] thanks [10:48] (My girlfriend was considering downloading Kubuntu Edgy, but I persuaded her installing from an Ubuntu CD then installing kubuntu-desktop would be quicker. As it turned out, Edgy doesn't recognize her display, so now we're looking for my Dapper CD.) [10:55] allee: i have logs :) [10:55] mpt: heh. that's not really a help === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:55] Hobbsee: sorry didn't kept a backup :) [10:57] allee: shame. [10:57] Hobbsee: remind toma about the problem. Maybe he adds something to mailody ;) [10:57] allee: will do. toma todo: Make mailody Not Suck like all mail clients === Stalwart [n=stalwart@ip-10.154.Home-Lan.fastnet.lv] has left #kubuntu-devel ["WeeChat] [11:00] is there any chance of Telepathy making it into Kopete Feisty? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyTelepathy is labeled "Good Progress" but I'm not sure if it includes Kopete. [11:01] mhb: ask me about that when i come back === Hobbsee needs to refuel === allee offers Hobbsee fresh tea. Just prepared. === mhb believes a "bulletproof" telepathy-like framework for email fetching would make Hobbsee happy :o) === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-128-188.dsl.telstraclear.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["http://mpt.net.nz/"] === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:30] mhb: indeed. [11:31] allee: thanks :) i dont drink tea, btw :) === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:31] mhb: now what's this about telepathy? [11:32] Riddell: what are we going to do about this data loss bug? [11:33] Hobbsee: I wanted to know if somebody is implementing that into Kopete as part of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyTelepathy === Hobbsee waves the magic wand [11:34] mhb: nope. magic wand seems not to want to work today [11:36] Hobbsee: that means no? [11:36] mhb: right, so how does that fit in with kopete? is there a patch, or does someone need to make one? === Hobbsee has actually read the page now === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:39] Hobbsee: I know little about the progress of the implementation, but they have listed Kopete as software that will use it and the progress is labeled "Good" ... so I thought someone is working on that [11:39] mhb: fdoving might be [11:40] mhb: dholbach tends to head that up [11:40] where does it llist the progress, sorry? [11:40] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/feisty-telepathy [11:40] Implementation: Good progress [11:41] mhb: right. from the actual spec, i think they've got most of the packages in the archive at the current time [12:02] mhb: I think dholbach is also working with decibel authors for inclusion [12:02] mhb: http://basysblog.org/index.php/archives/merry-christmas-everybody [12:03] hey Lure! [12:04] hi Hobbsee - almost Xmas at your place? [12:04] ;-) [12:04] yep === ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:Lure] : Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | Happy Birthday Jonathan! | Merge ! http://merges.ubuntu.com/main.html http://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html | https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty/+specs | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings === mhb_ [n=mhb@64.73.broadband3.iol.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:29] is it Riddell's birthday? [12:30] Riddell: what would be your opinion of running a bzr repo for stuff like kdebase? [12:32] Hobbsee: i'm pro a bzr repo for the debian/ dirs only. [12:32] fdoving: sounds sane [12:32] much like svn.debian.org [12:33] it's not like we ever change anything in the orig.tar.gz anyway. if we do, it's done in debian/patches/ [12:34] and a debian/rules target to get the orig.tar.gz from upstream with the help of debian/watch files would be very very nice. [12:37] that's how the debian-kde guys do it. [12:38] ah, today [12:38] happy birthday Riddell! === Jucato [n=jucato@58.69.26.232] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:44] happy b-day riddell. :) [12:46] Do not crash when deleting a message while saving it. See SVN commit 598927. <-- excellent, that might fix one of my major problems with kmail === Rashid [n=rashid@cpc1-orpi2-0-0-cust55.bmly.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Rashid [n=rashid@cpc1-orpi2-0-0-cust55.bmly.cable.ntl.com] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] === neoncode [n=neoncode@89.240.204.171] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@dialin-145-254-252-107.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === toma [n=toma@84-53-90-221.wxdsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === goldenear [n=goldenea@2001:6f8:392:1:213:2ff:fe4a:53a7] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@58.69.26.232] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mhb [n=mhb@ubuntu/member/mhb] has joined #kubuntu-devel === yveslu [n=yves@194.235.200.186] has joined #kubuntu-devel === yveslu [n=yves@194.235.200.186] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] === jpetso [n=jpetso@v213-022.vps.tuwien.ac.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pinheiro [n=pinheiro@bl4-218-207.dsl.telepac.pt] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] === pinheiro [n=pinheiro@bl4-218-207.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian2 [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ryanakca [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.82.220] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.82.220] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:35] Riddell: happy birthday! === robotgeek [n=robotgee@c-71-207-201-224.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === orkid [n=mike@bas1-barrie18-1242374010.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-131-240.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121e25.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:17] thanks superstoned et al [06:17] new mailody out I see [06:17] yep [06:17] Riddell: should i request a new sync or wait untill it is out of the new queue first? [06:18] may as well wait, nobody will be syncing until new year [06:18] okay [06:19] i've put feisty package up on sf anyhow, so no rush. [06:24] toma: set up a repo. So the lazy people can use apt-get ;) [06:25] allee: ;-) I thought that is where you kick in [06:26] toma: if you wish, no problem ;) But next hours my uplink is busy uploading digikam & co for dapper. I'll upload them later, feisty, edgy, dapper please ;) [06:27] allee: great! [06:27] do you need anything from me? [06:27] i've uploaded all three bins to sf.net [06:29] toma: what about .diff.gz .orig.tar.gz and .dsc. but if you don't sue me when I distribute binaries without sources, it's not really necessary [06:30] Okay, christmas time NOW! I wish all nice days! [06:30] bye [06:30] bye [06:32] when is the next kde4 snapshot due out? [06:32] nixternal: afaik it is not planned [06:33] ok, just checking as i didn't catch it on d.k.o === apokryphos [n=francis@84.13.229.243] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:57] nice, kde4 kdm splash has the akademy pic of everbody [07:03] yeah. So many of them 8) [07:04] hehe [07:04] i swore the kde4 snapshot told me to play with konqi, but it doesn't work :( === lotusleaf [n=lotuslea@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:10] if only i didn't mispell export as expord :) === mhb [n=mhb@ubuntu/member/mhb] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@69-87-143-180.async.iserv.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === yuriy [n=yuriy@209-94-138-57.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:49] everyone celebrating? [10:02] w000t :-) === lnxkde [n=vlos@206.248.123.32] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Ash-Fox [i=UNKNOWN@fgd182.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #Kubuntu-devel