[12:14] <petre> minicom is what you want
[12:14] <tony__> An error occurred while loading locate: \
[12:15] <petre> it's not as pretty looking as HT perhaps, but I always found HT to be a PITA to work with
[12:15] <petre> minicom just does what you tell it to do
[12:15] <tony__> ok, now working
[12:15] <tony__> thanks
[12:15] <tony__> thats much better
[12:16] <matthew_> genii, tony__ reminds me of dave_
[12:16] <tony__> feel me in
[12:16] <tony__> :)
[12:17] <genii> matthew_ Yes, somewhat
[12:17] <tony__> im way too new to linux
[12:17] <tony__> come on
[12:17] <tony__> :(
[12:17] <tony__> im doing good so far
[12:17] <matthew_> tony__, aww, it's ok, everyone starts somewhere
[12:17] <BrianSteffens> i'm a noob too :D
[12:18] <tony__> it seems kubuntu keep changing how it behaves everytime i update.. so i get lost in all this stuff
[12:19] <BrianSteffens> tony__ well a lot of people still use dapper.. you've probably got plenty of time on edgy. plus if you get to know kubuntu well, an upgrade probably won't be such a pain to get used to
[12:19] <tony__> on Gnome , I added a network monitor applet .. ( two computer ) that shows network traffic , i was wondring if there is something like that here on KDE
[12:19] <BrianSteffens> that uhm SuperKaramba thing
[12:19] <tony__> is hard for me to remember this odd names that are being used as commands..
[12:19] <BrianSteffens> can give you widgets, one of which monitors everything (including total net traffic)
[12:19] <tony__> thats why i don't use konsol as much ..
[12:20] <soulrider> tony__: install knetload
[12:20] <BrianSteffens> tony__ yeah i have like 10 pages of paper that i've written down command names and file paths
[12:20] <tony__> i have lots of paper infront of me with lots of dudeling on them lol
[12:20] <matthew_> tony__, better get used to it...that's the way it is w/ linux...lol
[12:20] <tony__> damn
[12:20] <soulrider> tony__: do sudo aptitude install knetload
[12:22] <tony__> ok i did that , how to add this to my panel ??? thanks
[12:22] <BrianSteffens> tony__ run it from the kmenu
[12:22] <BrianSteffens> kmenu->internet-knetload
[12:22] <tony__> well, nothign is there
[12:23] <BrianSteffens> you ran the install command and no errors came out?
[12:23] <tony__> sorry, now that looking at consol, it says didn't find package witha that name
[12:24] <BrianSteffens> it's in the universe repo
[12:24] <BrianSteffens> know how to enable them?
[12:24] <tony__> i think . give me a second
[12:24] <matthew_> genii, defintely another dave_
[12:24] <matthew_> ok, that's all the insiders from me today
[12:25] <prak> does anyone know where can i download or what is the driver name for usb-to-serial adapters?
[12:25] <matthew_> prak, do they actually _need_ drivers?
[12:25] <prak> the adapter?
[12:25] <paolo> Hi. I can't find mplayer in my repos list....
[12:26] <paolo> in which one is it?
[12:26] <prak> matthew_, i remember that i had to install the driver when using that adapter in windows
[12:26] <paolo> (i use edgy 6.10
[12:26] <paolo> )
[12:26] <BrianSteffens> prak: you're talking about the physical adapter that looks about 1 inch by 1inch right?
[12:27] <tony__> can you post the link on how to set the the universe repo ? :)
[12:27] <prak> briansteffens, it's a usb to db9 serial converter
[12:27] <BrianSteffens> !repos | tony__
[12:27] <ubotu> tony__: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:27] <prak> which may be yes
[12:27] <prak> ?
[12:28] <BrianSteffens> prak: then you should probably be looking for db9 serial drivers if anything, since the operating system has no idea what adapters you ran a cable through
[12:28] <prak> the drivers that i found are only good for redhat linux
[12:32] <max_> where do i go to see how much ram i have?
[12:33] <matthew_> prak, is the driver in an .rpm format?
[12:34] <tony__> well, i did that by adding multiverse to two loacatin , and fetching updates, and knetload is not there again
[12:34] <matthew_> max_, top
[12:34] <matthew_> max_, from the console
[12:34] <BrianSteffens> tony__ mine came in on http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe
[12:34] <BrianSteffens> not multiverse
[12:35] <matthew_> max_, you just type in "top" w/o the quotes ito a konsole...then look at mem
[12:35] <matthew_> oops, too late.
[12:35] <tony__> i give up . lol. im done..
[12:35] <tony__> as long as this thing works and wont crash on me again , i guess i should be happy
[12:35] <prak> nvm
[12:36] <prak> i typed in "dmesg"
[12:36] <prak> and it shows pl2303 converter detected
[12:36] <paolo> my mplayer plugin (as well as vlc plugin) for mozilla doesn't work... it shows me only a blank window... any idea about it? thnks
[12:36] <avalon> Anyone know how to rebuild a module in here?
[12:38] <matthew_> bye everyone
[12:38] <BrianSteffens> matthew_ cheers
[12:38] <Ace2016> bye
[12:39] <simen> How do i make vlc my default media player for internet sites like wimp.com ? on firefox ?
[12:41] <killermach> I have a firewire HD enclosure, I have it plugged in, but don't know how to access the drive, it has an EXT3 partition already, where does it mount??
[12:41] <BrianSteffens> let's make a virus that puts kubuntu on everyone's computers and doesn't allow windows to ever come back >=)
[12:42] <BrianSteffens> killermach: use terminal command 'mount' and see if it's somewhere int here
[12:42] <BrianSteffens> killermach: it may or may not mount automatically
[12:43] <killermach> BrianSteffens: .. ok.. I'm new to ubuntu/configurations, been using linux for years but also new to 1394
[12:44] <avalon>  Is there any site that has a step by step on how to rebuild a module? I know I'm supposed to patch it to my kernel, but I'm not quite sure how to do that
[12:44] <killermach> ok .. mount shows it's not mounted
[12:45] <BrianSteffens> killermach: ok check "ls /dev" to see if it's in there. might be sda1 or so
[12:45] <genii> avalon Normally you get a file with extension .patch  then you issue the command patch thefilename.patch /thefile/you/want/patched
[12:47] <killermach> BrianSteffens: ok.. dmesg and "scsi_info /dev/sda" show it is at sda
[12:47] <avalon> genii: Is there any particular place to find the .patch? Should the patch match my kernel?
[12:47] <killermach> how do I get kubuntu to automount it when I plug it in??
[12:48] <genii> avalon Yes it is crucial that the patch is ONLY for your specific kernel version. As for where you get the patch it depends on what it is for and so on
[12:48] <genii> avalon you need some kernel patch that will do what?
[12:48] <killermach> BrianSteffens: sorry.. there was a window "open in folder...  do nothing" that opened I did not notice.
[12:48] <killermach> BrianSteffens: it mounted at /media/sda1
[12:49] <avalon> I need to patch a touchscreen driver I have. It has a module not built for my kernel that I need to rebuild.
[12:49] <genii> avalon That is not what you would really call a patch. That is more like compiling a driver
[12:50] <BrianSteffens> killermach: it did that automatically?
[12:50] <megapig> HymnToLife, Hi again, I messed up my computer a little and are about to install the 915resolution again. It's just that I forgot how to install it. Can you tell me how to do that again?
[12:50] <killermach> BrianSteffens: yep.. I tried this the other day and must have not noticed it then either
[12:50] <avalon> Well I have the source for it genii, but I know it's built for a different kernel, so how do I compile it?
[12:50] <genii> avalon For something like that what the normal process would be: You get the source code to make the driver from. Usually it's some file ending in extension .tar,gz or bz2 or so on
[12:51] <killermach> BrianSteffens: it also made a "USB HD" icon on my desktop.. this I'm pretty sure it did not do the other day
[12:51] <avalon> I've got the source :)
[12:51] <genii> avalon If you have the source for it, it has not been built yet !
[12:52] <megapig> anyone know how to install the "915resolution"?
[12:52] <avalon> I'm not quite sure how to do that genii. It comes with a file called COMPILE, makefile, and touch.o. A ./configure won't build it like normal
[12:52] <genii> avalon Is this thing you got 1 single file which has no file extension or extension like .so or .bin   or was it else?
[12:52] <genii> avalon Aha good
[12:53] <genii> avalon The files you describe now are what instructions the compiler needs to build the driver
[12:53] <Captain_Haddock> My browser's manual states that the following setting is fine:
[12:53] <Captain_Haddock> VESA, 1280 x 1024 79.976 75.025 135.00 +/+
[12:54] <avalon> But the thing doesn't accept a make, or a make install
[12:54] <genii> avalon The command ./configure does not build the driver. It creates another file called Makefile
[12:54] <Captain_Haddock> That is "Display mode" "Horiz Freq. Khz" "Vert. Freq. Khz" "Pixel Clock" and "Sync Polarity (H/V)".
[12:54] <genii> avalon to compile anything on ubuntu you need to sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:54] <avalon> I've got that package genii.
[12:54] <Captain_Haddock> Should I just enter the horiz and vert. values as such?
[12:55] <Captain_Haddock> The existing xorg.conf values are a set of ranges.
[12:55] <avalon> So having that, all I should have to do is type make at the console, right?
[12:55] <genii> avalon OK so what error or result it gives you when you are in the dir whic sits those files and issue "sudo make" ?
[12:56] <avalon> make: *** No targets.  Stop.
[12:56] <genii> avalon What are the names of the files in there again please?
[12:56] <avalon> COMPILE, makefile, touch.c, touch.h
[12:57] <genii> avalon Use some editor to view the file called COMPILE it may be enlightening
[12:57] <avalon> Okie dokie
[12:58] <avalon> Ahhhh... indeed it does genii
[12:59] <genii> avalon The file called makefile   also may need the m made uppercase for the command make to see it properly
[12:59] <avalon> Hmm.. although the first instruction in it fails. It's actually a set of instructions on how prepare the kernel source to build a module against it. It says to cd /usr/src/linux, but that dir doesn't exsist
[01:00] <genii> avalon do at console ls /usr/src/`uname -r`  and report if this succeeds pls
[01:01] <genii> the single quotes are those at top left of keyboard
[01:01] <avalon> No success. ls: /usr/src/2.6.15-26-386: No such file or directory
[01:01] <genii> avalon So you need some additional things before continuing
[01:02] <avalon> Ahhh
[01:02] <genii> avalon 1 moment and i will tell you what
[01:02] <avalon> Okay :)
[01:03] <genii> avalon : sudo apt-get install kernel-source-2.6.15-26-386                 <-- first obe
[01:03] <genii> first one, even :)
[01:04] <genii> avalon this will take a bit to d/l so be patient
[01:04] <avalon> Okay
[01:05] <genii> avalon next one after that: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.15-25-386
[01:05] <avalon> Package kernel-source-2.6 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:05] <genii> hmm
[01:07] <genii> avalon Please do:   sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:07] <genii> avalon Then where you see a line that begins with # then followed by deb     remove the #
[01:08] <avalon> All lines are uncomment
[01:08] <avalon> ed*
[01:08] <genii> avalon As well go to the end of each line which starts with deb and ensure that the last 2 words each time are universe multiverse     (in any order)
[01:09] <avalon> Check genii
[01:10] <genii> avalon Good. Now ctrl-x to exit nano with Y to save
[01:10] <genii> avalon Then next we need to do    sudo apt-get update
[01:10] <tony__> victory is mine .. buhhhhhaaaaaahhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaa
[01:10] <avalon> check genii
[01:10] <tony__> :)
[01:10] <tony__> i made it .. this time with no crashes . lol
[01:11] <genii> tony__ Congrats
[01:11] <tony__> lol
[01:11] <tony__> thanks
[01:11] <tony__> now i have to figure why my mouse keeps freezing
[01:11] <tony__> lol
[01:11] <tony__> might be the battry
[01:11] <genii> avalon Did the sudo apt-get update      complete ok?
[01:12] <avalon> Can't do it yet, I'm waiting on the headers to finish dling. Just a sec :)
[01:12] <tony__> yep it is battry
[01:12] <genii> avalon OK good :)
[01:12] <tony__> i have one stupid question ..
[01:12] <tony__> i have multiple email accounts, and i need small applet in my task bar to check all my email accounts , is there somethign like that
[01:13] <genii> tony__ Offhand I dunno
[01:13] <tony__> lol.. thanks..
[01:13] <tony__> :)
[01:14] <genii> I'm sure you can set up multiple accounts in Thunderbird and whenever you load it it just checks all of them
[01:14] <tony__> which browser is better, firefox, or opera.. i just installed both . konqurore was way too slow to load things
[01:14] <genii> I like FF but it's whatever you feel good with and understand
[01:15] <Stalwart> tony__: i prefer opera
[01:15] <tony__> i like the look of the opera though ..
[01:15] <tony__> is odd that this browser is not in Repo
[01:15] <genii> that is because it is not open-source
[01:15] <tony__> i see
[01:16] <tony__> has anyone installed beryl ?? if so what you think about it ?
[01:16] <genii> avalon Still chugging away there?
[01:16] <Crell> tony__: I prefer Firefox as Opera is not Free Software.
[01:16] <Crell> It also has a bajillion plugins, which as a web developer are a godsend for me.
[01:17] <genii> showip is good :)
[01:17] <genii> and forecastfox etc
[01:17] <Stalwart> i don't care about some software being non-free
[01:17] <tony__> there was no indication on opera site that this is payed browser
[01:18] <genii> The FF plugins DO kick ass
[01:18] <Stalwart> opera >=8.5 is free (as in beer)
[01:18] <Crell> tony__: Opera is now no-cost, but it's not Free Software / Open Source.  Firefox is.
[01:18] <thomas> hello
[01:18] <tony__> now i get it
[01:18] <Crell> That may or may not matter to you.  It does to me, but I'm not you. :-)
[01:18] <avalon> genii: headers downloaded, update worked good
[01:19] <thomas> how do i go to othr channels?
[01:19] <genii> avalon good now to retry the first one
[01:19] <avalon> E: Couldn't find package kernel-source-2.6.15-26-386
[01:20] <genii> bah lemme look into it
[01:20] <genii> hmm
[01:20] <tony__> where is this FSTAB located ????
[01:20] <genii> !kernel-source
[01:20] <ubotu> To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages
[01:20] <cloakable> tony__: /etc/fstab
[01:20] <genii> bah doesn't say what repo
[01:20] <kirun> thomas: if you are new to IRC, see www.irchelp.org
[01:21] <genii> !linux-source
[01:21] <ubotu> linux-source: Linux kernel source with Ubuntu patches. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.17.10 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB
[01:21] <genii> Damn in main so should install
[01:21] <genii> avalon try just:  sudo apt-get linux-source
[01:22] <prak> is anyone here familiar with how to use minicom?
[01:22] <tony__> thanks
[01:22] <avalon> Okay got it coming donw genii
[01:22] <genii> avalon sorry bad syntax:       sudo apt-get install linux-source
[01:23] <genii> avalon good :) This one will be a while
[01:24] <genii> avalon After this last download you will almost certainly have the prerequisites for doing the compile
[01:24] <avalon> Okay. Thanks genii
[01:24] <Murrlin> good evening
[01:25] <genii> avalon I need sleep soon So may not be around to assist. I would suggest going back to the documentation in COMPILE and try that
[01:25] <avalon> Alright, can do. Thanks man. :D
[01:26] <genii> avalon I may be here shortly tomorrow, but then not after that until Dec27
[01:26] <genii> avalon So if you run into major issues and no help otherwise here see me in a few days :)
[01:27] <soulrider> does anyone here use conky ?
[01:27] <Dr_willis> !info conky
[01:27] <ubotu> conky: highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.2-1 (edgy), package size 118 kB, installed size 376 kB
[01:28] <soulrider> Dr_willis: i got it installed, and it flickers, even with double buffering. Also the background looks black, not transparent
[01:28] <Dr_willis> never noticed...
[01:28] <prak> is anyone here familiar with how to use minicom?
[01:28] <Dr_willis> let us apt-get install it and see.....
[01:28] <soulrider> Dr_willis: is there any way too send a package to the mantainers?
[01:29] <soulrider> conky in the repos is extremely old
[01:29] <soulrider> i compiled 1.4.5
[01:29] <Dr_willis> prak,  its a terminal program like in the good old BBS days.. run it.. set the serial settings.. perhaps enable echoing...
[01:29] <Murrlin> I'm rather confused about getting Reaktivate
[01:29] <genii> Well it's been fun but time for me to go home and sleep :) Gnite all
[01:29] <soulrider> nite!
[01:29] <soulrider> sleep well
[01:29] <genii> avalon Good luck
[01:29] <genii> soulrider ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...........
[01:31] <soulrider> BRB, need to restart xorg
[01:32] <Dr_willis> yep - conky dont seem too 'smooth' here.. heh
[01:32] <Dr_willis> I recall it working under puppylinux much smoother.
[01:34] <Dr_willis> I put it in its own window, then put it below everything, on all desktops, and removed the border.. seems to work a little nicer that way.
[01:35] <soulrider> uhm
[01:35] <soulrider> i could try that
[01:35] <prak> dr_willis, how do i find the usb port where the external device is connected?
[01:35] <soulrider> but i still got the problem of the back background
[01:35] <Dr_willis> of course - i use most all my other apps fullsized/full screen, so i dont like gizmos ont he desktop
[01:35] <Dr_willis> I like the black background. :) sort of hard to see the writing otherwise.
[01:35] <Dr_willis> prak,  check 'dmesg' output
[01:36] <Dr_willis> prak,  or 'sudo fdisk -l' and see what sd## devices are there.
[01:37] <soulrider> yeah
[01:37] <prak> they both don't show much useful information on the port
[01:37] <soulrider> but with transparency it looks so much cooler :P
[01:37] <prak> dr_willis
[01:37] <Dr_willis> &#^@^@ eye candy and transparency. :)
[01:37] <soulrider> lol
[01:37] <soulrider> im not too much into eye andy
[01:37] <soulrider> but when i put something
[01:37] <soulrider> i like it to look neat
[01:38] <Dr_willis> prak,  if its a usb thumb/whatever drive - its one of the sd##  devices. or should be. unplug, check dmesg, plug in, check dmesg again...
[01:38] <Dr_willis> prak,  could check ' media:/ '   also in konqueror
[01:39] <prak> it's not a disk drive
[01:39] <prak> it's a usb-to-serial db9 converter
[01:39] <Dr_willis> and it is a?.......................
[01:39] <Dr_willis> heh heh.
[01:39] <Dr_willis> oh in thta case you may need to load the proper module first.
[01:39] <prak> and that is connected to a ts-7250 board
[01:40] <Dr_willis> I got a usb-parallel adaptor dood-dad that worked for me decently well.
[01:40] <prak> load the proper module, dr_willis?
[01:40] <Dr_willis> its been so long since ive used a serial device.. what are the /dev/ Serial entryes anyway?
[01:40] <Dr_willis>  - /dev/ttyS# ? or is that old now a days?
[01:41] <prak> minicom is auto-configured to /dev/tty8
[01:41] <Dr_willis> in 'theory' the things modules should auto load and create the correct /dev/ttyS#
[01:42] <Dr_willis> tty8 - is... hmm totally wrong i THINK.. should be like ttyS1 or somthing
[01:42] <prak> ok
[01:43] <xenol> !source-o-matic
[01:43] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:43] <Dr_willis> man look at all the  /dev/tty*  things...
[01:43] <Crell> I'm having some issues with USB devices in a new Edgy install.  First item, I've a USB ZIP 250 drive that is showing up in media:/.  When I insert a disk, I get the new-media notification and tell it to open in a new window.  It closes the notice window and does nothing else.  If I try to click on it in media:/, I get an error "method mount with signature ssas on interface org.freedesktop.hal.device.volume doesn't exist".  Any idea what c
[01:43] <Crell> A USB flash card reader is working fine.
[01:43] <Dr_willis>  325 possibilities
[01:43] <BrianSteffens> Crell: how is the zip disk formatted/
[01:44] <Crell> FAT or FAT32, I'm pretty sure.
[01:44] <Dr_willis> id try mounting it manually., also  a 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sd## where the zipdisk is at - to double check that its seen right
[01:45] <Crell> What device would it be listed as?
[01:46] <Dr_willis>    /dev/sd##
[01:46] <BrianSteffens> Crell: in terminal do ls /dev to see all devices found on system
[01:46] <Crell> Yeah, that really doesn't narrow it down.
[01:46] <Dr_willis> edgy uses the 'UUID' and other features of a device, so you can avoid some of the confuseion with changing sd## ids
[01:46] <Dr_willis> sudo fdisk -l
[01:46] <Dr_willis> should list all seen devices/partitions
[01:47] <BrianSteffens> Crell: not many should come up as sd#
[01:47] <Crell> Hm, spiffy.
[01:47] <BrianSteffens> unless you have like 50 scsi drives somehow lol
[01:47] <Crell> It says it's a FAT16 on sde4
[01:47] <BrianSteffens> do you need that disk to stay formatted fat16 for use in windows etc?
[01:47] <Crell> Yes.
[01:49] <BrianSteffens> well i'm pretty sure linux supports fat without special packages or anything
[01:49] <BrianSteffens> are you able to mount it manually?
[01:49] <Crell> Trying now.
[01:49] <Crell> I know this system handles FAT, because it mounted a USB flash card reader without blinking.
[01:50] <Crell> Manually mounting works.
[01:50] <Crell> So it's something in the auto-detection.
[01:50] <Dr_willis> of course the fact its a removeable usb device,, and has removeable disks.. may be a bit of confusion
[01:51] <Dr_willis> I can say that ive never owned a zip drive/disk. heh - that company really  *@*@(#'ed me off in other ways - so i never bought from them again
[01:51] <Crell> I've a lot of old legacy data on ZIP disks.
[01:52] <Crell> Well, as I said I've a USB multi-slot flash card reader as well, and that works perfectly.
[01:52] <BrianSteffens> when i was about 13 my dad got me an old zip100 thing for a birthday lol
[01:52] <Crell> So it's something to do with the ZIP drive itself, not the entire USB system.
[01:52] <BrianSteffens> i thought it was the coolest thing in the world
[01:52] <BrianSteffens> until automagically all the data was gone one day after not using a disk for 6 months or so
[01:52] <Crell> oops
[01:52] <BrianSteffens> it was the last backup of an entire album of my music
[01:53] <BrianSteffens> granted a 13 year old's music was terrible.. i still hate iomega though ha
[01:53] <Dr_willis> Iomega and that other company had such a strangle hold on high-storage removeable media for so long.. i laughed my backside off when cd-burners got cheap
[01:53] <Crell> Of course, CDRs aren't exactly the longest-lived devices either.
[01:53] <Crell> SyQuest?
[01:53] <BrianSteffens> external hdd ftw! lol
[01:53] <Dr_willis> Redundant stack of 'redundant' disks.
[01:53] <Dr_willis> :)
[01:53] <Dr_willis> usb hard drives are so fast and cheap.. :)
[01:54] <Crell> Yeah, well, I'm looking for long-term storage, and I've got a gig or so of data on ZIP disks as is.
[01:54] <Dr_willis> now external SATA drives are getting  on the market
[01:54] <Crell> And neither my ZIP 250 USB nor my ZIP 100 IDE drive are reading correctly.  That makes me not happy. :-)
[01:54] <BrianSteffens> go for an external hard drive for longterm then... compared to zip disks the price is so much better
[01:54] <BrianSteffens> i don't reallyunderstand how zip drives still sell
[01:55] <Dr_willis> people with lots of old data. :)
[01:55] <soulrider> BrianSteffens: they still sell ?
[01:55] <BrianSteffens> hehe
[01:55] <Crell> Because the 3" floppy never had a replacement.
[01:55] <Dr_willis> the LS120 was a good replacement for the floppy drive
[01:55] <BrianSteffens> yeah man i was in a computer store just last week
[01:55] <BrianSteffens> looking at hard drives
[01:55] <Dr_willis> I got one of them.. somewhere..
[01:55] <Crell> LS120 would have been great.
[01:55] <soulrider> its retarded to buya  zip drive
[01:55] <BrianSteffens> and lo and behold a ZIP250 DRIVE AND ZIP250 DISK!
[01:56] <Dr_willis> they  just dident market them well.. and then cd-writers prices plummeted..
[01:56] <soulrider> yeah
[01:56] <soulrider> even DVD Burners
[01:56] <soulrider> theyre not expensive
[01:56] <soulrider> i mean
[01:56] <soulrider> i have one that means theyre affordable :P
[01:56] <Dr_willis> now if ONLY dual layer dvd-media would get affordable
[01:56] <Crell> Iomega got all the preinstall contracts, but then the media never came down in price.
[01:56] <BrianSteffens> i know! i hadn't looked into dvd burners
[01:56] <BrianSteffens> until just recently when i built my new computer
[01:56] <BrianSteffens> and i couldn't believe how cheap they are now
[01:56] <soulrider> Dr_willis: where i live DVDs are pretty cheap
[01:56] <Crell> There's a desperate need for rewritable media that is cheap enough that you can give it to someone and not care if you get it back.
[01:56] <Dr_willis> LiteOnDVD burner, DL = #50
[01:56] <soulrider> but dual layers are insane
[01:56] <Crell> Right now there isn't one.
[01:57] <soulrider> like 10x more expensive
[01:57] <Dr_willis> soulrider yep... thats the issue...
[01:57] <Dr_willis> 10x the price for 2x the storage
[01:57] <BrianSteffens> definitely crell.. the media for zip disks was always their downfall
[01:57] <soulrider> i have a sony drive
[01:57] <soulrider> i wish i had a LiteOn DVD Drive
[01:57] <brianw> anyone use autopackage apps w/ kubuntu ?
[01:57] <Dr_willis> walmart has them for $50 :)
[01:57] <soulrider> had my LiteOn drive for 4 years
[01:57] <Crell> So no idea why this thing is not reading the drive, though? :-)
[01:57] <soulrider> and still works
[01:57] <soulrider> its an ood CD burner
[01:57] <soulrider> 12x :P
[01:57] <Dr_willis> brianw,  i did a few mo ago...
[01:58] <soulrider> Dr_willis: no walmarts where i live :P
[01:58] <BrianSteffens> Crell: i have no idea about that.. search up google/kubuntu forums a bit?
[01:58] <Dr_willis> Ive had some cd/dvd burners die on me lately. or just get real flakey.
[01:58] <brianw> Dr_willis: I need to install an app for my Mom that only is packaged this way.
[01:58] <Crell> Looks like.  *sigh*
[01:58] <BrianSteffens> i put in a quick search for that and found lots of similar stuff right away
[01:58] <soulrider> Dr_willis: what brand ?
[01:58] <brianw> Dr_willis: how does it work? pretty good?
[01:58] <Dr_willis> I saw a burner the other day that had  30-in-1 media reader slots built in...
[01:58] <Crell> Only vaguely related question.  I've also got a USB Bluetooth 1.1 adapter from D-Link plugged in.  The system isn't picking it up at all, thou.
[01:58] <BrianSteffens> what?????
[01:58] <Crell> though.
[01:58] <Dr_willis> this liteon one - seems very decent.. for $50 its ok priced. decent speed...
[01:58] <BrianSteffens> 30 slots???????
[01:58] <Crell> Dr_willis: You mean 3.
[01:59] <Dr_willis> 30 in 1
[01:59] <Dr_willis> 30 different kids of media
[01:59] <BrianSteffens> O_______O
[01:59] <soulrider> Dr_willis: wtf ?
[01:59] <soulrider> did it whipe your butt too ?
[01:59] <BrianSteffens> tape backup? :D
[01:59] <Dr_willis> heck ive seen some usb-media-reader that claimed 61 different things supported.
[01:59] <BrianSteffens> audo cassette?
[01:59] <Crell> No, there's just a different format of flash media for every frickin' device, because manufacturers all suck.
[01:59] <Dr_willis> whats amuseing is how windows makes a drive letter for each 'slot'
[02:00] <soulrider> so windows will make 30 different drive letters?
[02:00] <BrianSteffens> anybody know what happens when windows runs out of drive letters?
[02:00] <Dr_willis> if ya have it pluged in while installing XP.. then XP installs to like W:
[02:00] <soulrider> LOL Dr_willis
[02:00] <BrianSteffens> ROFL
[02:00] <soulrider> BrianSteffens: no idea, but would love to know
[02:00] <Dr_willis> BrianSteffens,  i knwo windows and some programs HATE it when your C: is a media reader slot with no device in it...
[02:00] <soulrider> windows sucks
[02:00] <Dr_willis> its so fun in windows to plug in a media stick.. then have to figure out which drive letter its on...
[02:00] <BrianSteffens> i'm tempted to get on my media machine right now and fill up my drive letters with mounted disk images and then plug in a flash card
[02:01] <Crell> How would I coax Linux/Kubuntu to load the driver for a USB BT adater that it sees via lsusb but doesn't do anything with?
[02:01] <soulrider> BrianSteffens: SOLVE THE MYSTERY FOR ALL OF US!
[02:01] <soulrider> sry caps
[02:01] <Crell> Dr_willis: No different than figuring out which sdX it's on in Linux if you don't have it pre-mapped or use automounting software.
[02:02] <Dr_willis> Crell,  'fdisk -l' does wonders...
[02:02] <BrianSteffens> anybody ever heard someone call it 'linox'?
[02:02] <Dr_willis> and dmesg output... as opposed to windows just sitting there with C: through H: on my machine.. :)
[02:02] <BrianSteffens> like when someone asks for a computer with 'the windows' on it
[02:02] <Crell> BrianSteffens: Yeah, Linus Torvalds. :-)
[02:03] <soulrider> BrianSteffens: i havnt
[02:03] <BrianSteffens> there was an IT guy at a place i used to work
[02:03] <soulrider> i feel like ana ss saying this, but i hate stupid people
[02:03] <BrianSteffens> nobody would listen to me, they thought he knew everything
[02:03] <BrianSteffens> called it 'the windows' and 'linox'
[02:04] <soulrider> LOL
[02:04] <BrianSteffens> OH! and 'efernet'
[02:04] <soulrider> hahaha
[02:04] <soulrider> i just laugh at people like that
[02:04] <soulrider> but they do get me amd sometimes
[02:04] <BrianSteffens> yeah haha
[02:05] <BrianSteffens> when they're making you get up so THEY can install ms office on YOUR computer cause they wanna make sure it's done right
[02:05] <soulrider> yeah lol
[02:05] <soulrider> i used to get calle dby my neighbours all the time
[02:05] <brianw> I am downloadin edgy right now. Will be my first ubuntu experience. Gotta see what all the fuss is about. :(
[02:05] <brianw> er :)
[02:06] <soulrider> to ix their computers
[02:06] <soulrider> brianw: way to go mate!
[02:06] <Crell> brianw: Welcome aboard. :-)
[02:06] <BrianSteffens> welcome ^^
[02:06] <brianw> I use gentoo mostly, but autopackage is a nogo w/ gentoo. So I will give kubuntu a whirl.
[02:06] <BrianSteffens> soulrider: i always keep the fact that i know how to use computers verrry quiet
[02:07] <soulrider> yes, BrianSteffens
[02:07] <soulrider> th eproblem is
[02:07] <soulrider> i look like a nerd lol
[02:07] <brianw> BrianSteffens: heh I know exactly what you mean ;)
[02:07] <soulrider> they even if they dont know me
[02:07] <BrianSteffens> hahahaha
[02:07] <soulrider> theya ssume i know about  computers
[02:07] <soulrider> which tends to REALLY bother me
[02:07] <soulrider> or
[02:07] <BrianSteffens> luckily i don't look like a nerd, but on the other hand i love to help people
[02:07] <BrianSteffens> so i usually end up letting it out at some point
[02:07] <soulrider> when they think its flattering to call me Bill Gates
[02:07] <BrianSteffens> ewwwwwwwwwww i hate that
[02:07] <soulrider> yeah..., tell it to me
[02:08] <brianw> anyone here have an hp photosmart printer?
[02:08] <BrianSteffens> hm poweriso only gives me 8 virtual drives
[02:08] <BrianSteffens> better install daemon tools too
[02:08] <soulrider> daemon tools ?
[02:08] <BrianSteffens> another virtual mounter
[02:08] <soulrider> no
[02:08] <soulrider> i meant
[02:09] <soulrider> "daemon tools?" as in
[02:09] <soulrider> whata bouit daemon tools ?
[02:09] <soulrider> :P
[02:09] <soulrider> i musta dmit
[02:09] <soulrider> until 6 months ago
[02:09] <soulrider> i was a windows user
[02:09] <soulrider> luckily those dark days are ove
[02:09] <soulrider> r
[02:09] <BrianSteffens> i was a windows user until 3 weeks ago haha
[02:09] <Crell> You poor guy. :-)
[02:09] <soulrider> LOL
[02:09] <soulrider> BRB, ice-cream :D
[02:09] <BrianSteffens> I AM A NOOB TO THE LINOX
[02:09] <fowlduck> BrianSteffens: I still use Windows, for what it's good for
[02:09] <brianw>  hahah
[02:10] <BrianSteffens> my main and server are converted to kubuntu
[02:10] <BrianSteffens> media machine is still windows
[02:10] <fowlduck> precisely
[02:10] <BrianSteffens> it's like my junkpile compatibility deal
[02:10] <fowlduck> i game on mine
[02:10] <fowlduck> and devel in visual studio
[02:10] <BrianSteffens> ah yes the one thing ms did right imho
[02:10] <BrianSteffens> visual studio :o) lovely
[02:11] <fowlduck> yeah, VS is pretty sweet
[02:11] <fowlduck> best IDE I have ever used
[02:11] <Crell> I'm a web developer.  Zend Studio is cross-platform. :-)
[02:11] <Crell> If I didn't need to support IE, Windows would not exist.
[02:11] <fowlduck> never tried Zend
[02:11] <BrianSteffens> zend is good if you're doing that stuff hehe
[02:11] <Crell> It's rather expensive, but it's a kick-ass PHP IDE.
[02:11] <fowlduck> I just do windows devel for school, not in personal junk
[02:11] <Crell> We use it at work.
[02:12] <BrianSteffens> isn't there a free version too?
[02:12] <fowlduck> Crell: that's good to know, although I'm a hater of PHP
[02:12] <BrianSteffens> perl all the way!
[02:12] <fowlduck> python here
[02:12] <fowlduck> ftw
[02:12] <BrianSteffens> i like php enough, i just don't care for web programming
[02:13] <Dr_willis> the web is over rated.
[02:13] <Dr_willis> just a fad.
[02:13] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:13] <fowlduck> lol yeah
[02:13] <BrianSteffens> ahhahaha
[02:13] <Dr_willis> soon everything will be flash anyway
[02:13] <fowlduck> python > php + perl + ruby
[02:13] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:14] <BrianSteffens> * > ruby
[02:14] <fowlduck> python is just balls to the wall power, while keeping it simple
[02:14] <fowlduck> ruby has its' place, just like perl and php do
[02:14] <fowlduck> python doesn't know its' place
[02:14] <fowlduck> sometimes i think it tries to do too much
[02:14] <BrianSteffens> LOGO
[02:14] <BrianSteffens> GOOO APPLE LOGO
[02:14] <BrianSteffens> TURTLE FOR THE WIN
[02:14] <Dr_willis> Comal
[02:14] <fowlduck> lol
[02:14] <fowlduck> w0rd
[02:15] <fowlduck> LOGO rules!!!
[02:15] <fowlduck> LOGOS or LOGO
[02:15] <fowlduck> I can't remember
[02:15] <BrianSteffens> who knows
[02:15] <BrianSteffens> ha
[02:15] <fowlduck> BASIC
[02:15] <Dr_willis> !find logo
[02:15] <ubotu> Found: xlogo, fblogo, linuxlogo, syslogout, ucblogo
[02:15] <fowlduck> just BASIC
[02:15] <Dr_willis> !find basic
[02:15] <ubotu> Found: bwbasic, nagios-plugins-basic, ohphone-basic, r-cran-fbasics, selinux-basics (and 1 others)
[02:15] <BrianSteffens> how about basic-a
[02:15] <fowlduck> QBASIC even
[02:15] <Dr_willis> 'truebasic'
[02:15] <Dr_willis> AmigaBasic - one of the worse basics ever.
[02:15] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:16] <BrianSteffens> Enter line to edit: 15
[02:16] <BrianSteffens> Enter new line: GOTO SOMEWHEREELSE! YA
[02:16] <soulrider> im back
[02:16] <soulrider> LOGO kicked ass
[02:16] <soulrider> i remember being like 5 or 6
[02:16] <soulrider> and using it
[02:16] <soulrider> and try to draw boobs
[02:17] <BrianSteffens> LMAO
[02:17] <soulrider> i was ahead of my time :P
[02:18] <megapig> My Adept Installer won't start anymore, anyone know how to fix it?
[02:19] <BrianSteffens> with daemon tools and poweriso together i now have a drive P:
[02:19] <BrianSteffens> anymore virtual drive managers?
[02:19] <Dr_willis> well.. given the vast amount of details you just gave megapig ...   .. id say no. :)
[02:19] <soulrider> lol
[02:19] <Admiral_Chicago> megapig, maybe it's locked
[02:19] <Dr_willis> megapig,  any sort of error messages?
[02:19] <BrianSteffens> megapig: run it from terminal to see error output
[02:19] <megapig> When I try to start it it just says:
[02:19] <megapig> megapig@MegaPig:/$ apt-get install 915resolution
[02:19] <megapig> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[02:19] <megapig> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[02:19] <megapig> megapig@MegaPig:/$
[02:20] <megapig> oops
[02:20] <megapig> wrong
[02:20] <Dr_willis> one of the E: lines would of suficed.
[02:20] <Dr_willis> heh
[02:20] <Admiral_Chicago> megapig, is adept open?
[02:20] <BrianSteffens> first are you root, second, do you have it opened somewhere else or a sudo apt-get or something going?
[02:20] <Dr_willis> you need to do 'sudo apt-get install 915resolution'
[02:20] <Dr_willis> also :)
[02:20] <megapig> I don't think so
[02:20] <xenol> ppl i want to ask if backports to dapper r safe to install? wont it destroy system stability?
[02:21] <Admiral_Chicago> xenol, pretty much
[02:21] <megapig> It says something about an incorrect APT configuration =/
[02:21] <Admiral_Chicago> it's for testing / bleeding edgy packages
[02:22] <Admiral_Chicago> Jonty has a nice away message
[02:22] <megapig> It says that I should try "apt-setup" or "apt-get update", but that does'nt work
[02:22] <xenol> so if i am now i am downlaoding those packages is there any way how not to install them?
[02:24] <Crell> Does Kubuntu have its own menu manager?
[02:24] <Crell> The KMenu editor is pointing at the normal KMenu, not the Kubuntu mentu.
[02:25] <xenol> admiral_chicago how can i not to install em if they r downlaoded and rdy to install?
[02:26] <Admiral_Chicago> xenol, same as any package
[02:26] <xenol> so i edit my sources.list and then sudo-apt get update?
[02:26] <Admiral_Chicago> yes, sudo apt-get update first, then sudo apt-get install foo
[02:27] <xenol> so those backports packages will be  installed but if i sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get uprgade it will change back to stable package?
[02:28] <rance> I need an alsa guru, there is a bug in the alsa driver for my sound card and I cant get alsa to properly detect the FEATURES of my sound card.  (it is properly detecting the sound card itself)
[02:29] <rance> anyway, I've got no sound, and I'm out of resources
[02:29] <otaku-san> I'm installing firefox 2 on dapper and it says this Unzip the .tar.gz file in /opt directory using the following command
[02:29] <otaku-san> sudo tar -C /opt -xzvf firefox-2.0.tar.gz
[02:29] <otaku-san> there is no such thing as a /opt directory...in kubuntu that is
[02:30] <otaku-san> it's for ubuntu
[02:30] <fiendskull9> hey
[02:30] <fiendskull9> ive already got nvidia drivers up and running?
[02:30] <fiendskull9> -?
[02:30] <fiendskull9> sorry
[02:30] <fiendskull9> shouldnt i be able to apt-get install beryl
[02:30] <fiendskull9> and itll work
[02:31] <xenol> otaku-san can u tell me if when i changed sources list will backport packages install if they were downloaded before?
[02:31] <otaku-san> fiendskull9: it should....if you have nvidia working it'll work
[02:32] <fiendskull9> mmk
[02:32] <fiendskull9> just wondering if there was any fancy crap for kubuntu
[02:32] <fiendskull9> thanks man ;)
[02:32] <xenol> otaku-san can u tell me it plz?
[02:32] <otaku-san> fiendskull9: hahah no beryl is already some pretty fancy crap! ;)
[02:32] <fiendskull9> yah
[02:33] <fiendskull9> i used it on VLOS (gentoo derivant)
[02:33] <otaku-san> xenol: I was just getting to that
[02:33] <fiendskull9> and wanted to give it a test on my kubuntu box
[02:33] <xenol> ah
[02:34] <otaku-san> fiendskull9: lucky....my poor TNT2 Nvidia card would have a heartattack and die...I've seen beryl and compiz tho working before...just not for me
[02:34] <Admiral_Chicago> !firefox | otaku-san
[02:34] <ubotu> otaku-san: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[02:34] <Omnifrog> installing kubuntu on a 333mhz machine is excruciatingly slow
[02:34] <Admiral_Chicago> try following the new version
[02:34] <fiendskull9> otaku-san: *hugs his 6900*, beryl and compiz are diff tho
[02:34] <fiendskull9> Omnifrog: WTF ARE YOU DOING THAT!?
[02:35] <otaku-san> xenol: I wouldn't be the best person to answer that question...I've messed with sourcelists alot...but I don't really understand your question
[02:36] <xenol> well i did this i had 2 packages from backports edgy to dapper and they r downloaded and ready to install
[02:36] <Omnifrog> hahaha, cause i can
[02:36] <xenol> i stopped updating and edeited sources list
[02:37] <xenol> then sudo apt-get update
[02:37] <xenol> and started upgrade
[02:37] <xenol> so i have problem with those 2 downloaded packages if they will be installed or nor and if so how to remove them?
[02:37] <xenol> so i have for dapper not from edgy
[02:38] <Omnifrog> to make matters worse i have a 40 gig hard drive on a pci controler and the cd on the first ide port on the motherboard
[02:38] <jerp> xenol, there is a 'clean' option
[02:38] <jerp> and autoclean
[02:38] <xenol> so just stop the update then sudo apt-get clean
[02:38] <xenol> and start from beginning?
[02:38] <jerp> like ........ sudo apt-get clean/autoclean
[02:39] <otaku-san> xenol: yeah...basically
[02:39] <jerp> nto like that actually
[02:39] <jerp> not
[02:39] <jerp> remove the slash and use one at a time
[02:39] <xenol> slash?
[02:40] <jerp> /
[02:40] <xenol> wat u mean?
[02:40] <otaku-san> jerp: hahaha take this one please...I'm so n00b here now...we've moved to something I didn't completely know
[02:40] <jerp> what do you think?
[02:40] <jerp> or try apt-get --help in the terminal
[02:41] <jerp> and see it there
[02:41] <xenol> so after i sudo apt-get clean all downloaded packages r gone and i have to DL them again?
[02:41] <jerp> I think it is that the cache is cleaned
[02:41] <jerp> read apt-get --help
[02:42] <jerp> and if you'd like run update/dist-upgrade again
[02:44] <Omnifrog> first attempt to install on this old thing barfed at the partition stage
[02:44] <Crell> Does Kubuntu have its own menu manager?  The KMenu editor is pointing at the normal KMenu, not the Kubuntu mentu.
[02:44] <jerp> crell, yeah
[02:45] <jerp> right click on the big K
[02:45] <jerp> 'edit menu'
[02:45] <T3hWiz0rd> what is the best way to split .cue files in linux?
[02:45] <T3hWiz0rd> because i've got a few albums that need to be split that way from it.
[02:45] <jerp> actually 'menu editor'  sorry
[02:45] <Crell> jerp: Ah!  I see, it's showing a full tree while the real menu displays a pruned tree.  Confusing. :-)
[02:46] <jerp> hey, I didn't design it
[02:46] <Omnifrog> dang, partitioning is not going well
[02:47] <xenol> it is possible to install FF 2.0.0.1 on kubuntu? can i download .deb file?
[02:48] <jerp> xenol, it should work I believe
[02:48] <otaku-san> xenol: you may need to create the /opt directory...and yes it's possible I'm about to do it! ;)
[02:48] <xenol> only tar.bz is avaiable to download :/
[02:49] <xenol> well i am interested
[02:49] <xenol> installed FF in ubuntu is 1.5.0.8 i think
[02:49] <otaku-san> xenol: tar.bz are your friends...if you have all the dependencies! hahaha
[02:49] <xenol> and i am interested why it cant update to 2.0.0.1 from that version
[02:49] <xenol> thats sux
[02:50] <otaku-san> because the packs arn't there for dapper
[02:50] <xenol> ou
[02:50] <xenol> !deb
[02:50] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[02:51] <otaku-san> but once you manually install this from the mozilla site ff will search for updates like it does in winbloze
[02:51] <xenol> winbloze?
[02:51] <xenol> !winbloze
[02:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about winbloze - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:51] <otaku-san> hahaha a mean way to say Windows
[02:51] <xenol> lol
[02:52] <xenol> hmm if i install it from tar.bz file from site
[02:52] <otaku-san> !firefox | xenol
[02:52] <ubotu> xenol: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[02:52] <xenol> will i have ugly GNOME icon for FF or the classic one?
[02:52] <otaku-san> follow that xenol....oh and you can change the icon easily
[02:53] <xenol> why do i get error loading khtml when i want to visit that page?
[02:54] <slop> help! when i put an sd card in my card reader, it automatically pops up on my desktop...i can open it and move files and such, but it won't let me delete any...if i try from console, it says "rm: cannot remove `100_0352.JPG': Read-only file system" - how do i delete files from my card?
[02:55] <otaku-san> xenol: I have no idea...I don't use konq for internet use
[02:55] <xenol> opera?
[02:55] <otaku-san> yes and ff
[02:55] <brianw> slop: you need to have th umask mount option set
[02:56] <xenol> it says some unknown symbol or smth similar to that
[02:56] <slop> brianw: where do i set that?
[02:56] <brianw> slop: usually in fstab, I have yet to use the new kde/hal setup yet. So not sure how to w/ that.
[02:57] <brianw> slop: I would think it would set it up right.
[02:57] <brianw> slop: what is the output of this: mount
[02:57] <brianw> slop: the line concerning the sdcard of course.
[02:57] <slop> /dev/sda1 on /media/usbdisk type vfat (ro,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[02:58] <brianw> slop: and the output of this: id
[02:58] <slop> brianw: uid=1000(slop) gid=1000(slop) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),109(lpadmin),111(scanner),114(admin),1000(slop)
[02:58] <Omnifrog> slop, have you tried to move the files instead of copy?
[02:58] <brianw> slop: well I do not know why it is mounting it ro...
[02:58] <xenol> can anyone  help me with this plz? when i want to erase history in konq it says
[02:58] <xenol> 90_: 'URLs expire after XX days.' Unfortunately the plural handling of KLocale does not work here, as I only need the word 'days' and not the entire sentence here. Sorry.
[02:58] <xenol>  days
[02:59] <slop> Omnifrog: i can move them, but now i want to delete them
[02:59] <slop> Omnifrog: i mean copy
[02:59] <Omnifrog> oh
[03:00] <slop> is there somewhere i can set it to not automatically mount as ro?
[03:03] <slop> in kcontrol, if i go to System Administration/Disk & Filesystems, and right click the mounted partition and select properties, the Writeable option is checked already
[03:09] <otaku-san> xenol: got ff 2 working...how about you?
[03:10] <xenol> aint doing am updating and going to bed
[03:10] <xenol> will do it later today
[03:10] <xenol> MErry Xmas to u all GN
[03:11] <jerp> thanks xenol, and to you and yours :)
[03:12] <mportillah> hola
[03:12] <__mikem> !es
[03:12] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:12] <kubuntu132> I have a root password assigned. How to make kde ask for root password instead of the user's one when I try to open a program which requires root privileges?
[03:14] <brianw> isn't that what kdesu is for?
[03:15] <burner> it's like gksudo
[03:15] <burner> i think you just have to open a term... su and then launch whatever
[03:16] <kubuntu132> burner: it's not practical to open a term everytime i'd like to open adept, for example
[03:16] <burner> so use kdesu and sudo
[03:16] <burner> why you gotta use the root pw?
[03:17] <jerp> kubuntu132: I saw a couple days ago that there's an app in the repositories that allows multiple system passwords for single users
[03:17] <brianw> what is a system password?
[03:18] <Omnifrog> qwerty
[03:18] <brianw> dvorak
[03:18] <Omnifrog> the root pw is your pw
[03:19] <Omnifrog> lol@ dvorak
[03:20] <brianw> the root pw is definitely not my pw
[03:20] <redbull> Bonjour y a t'il un insomniaque pour m'aider en PV je dbute et j'ai un problme avec compiz
[03:20] <purpleposeidon> !kubuntu-fr
[03:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu-fr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:21] <Omnifrog> what are you after burner
[03:21] <brianw> heh, afterburner
[03:21] <redbull> sorry, thanks !
[03:21] <Omnifrog> lol
[03:23] <Omnifrog> the users password that was entered during the install is the root pw too Bulwinkle
[03:23] <Omnifrog> burner,
[03:23] <Omnifrog> that is
[03:24] <burner> dude, read the backlog, i'm cool ;)
[03:24] <Omnifrog> oh
[03:24] <Omnifrog> sorry
[03:24] <Omnifrog> im a l00zzer
[03:28] <Omnifrog> yippy!
[03:28] <Omnifrog> 48hours later the install is done!
[03:29] <knapp> Is there a graphical frontend for FFMPEG?
[03:29] <knapp> I'm trying to convert some VOB's to AVI.
[03:29] <Omnifrog> im rebooting a 333mhz zombie
[03:30] <Omnifrog> i built this thing out of a scrap pile from the 90's
[03:30] <Omnifrog> hahah
[03:31] <Omnifrog> the first reboot is going well, slow, but well
[03:31] <Ppjet6> hi ! anyone using cedega please ? :)
[03:32] <burner> Ppjet6, using latest wine you got that error?
[03:32] <Omnifrog> "he boots, he scores!"
[03:32] <Omnifrog> heheh
[03:32] <burner> check ubuntuforums for wow support?
[03:33] <Ppjet6> burner: not yet on forums, but i think it's the lastest wine yes
[03:33] <Ppjet6> wait, i look
[03:33] <burner> Ppjet6, wine --version
[03:34] <Ppjet6> 0.9.27
[03:34] <Omnifrog> Huston, we have desktop
[03:34] <burner> bummer... same as me
[03:34] <Ppjet6> :/
[03:34] <Ppjet6> burner: particular configuration ?
[03:34] <burner> i think i saw an article in digg ages back about playing WoW in ubuntu
[03:34] <burner> i play warcraft 3, not WoW
[03:34] <Ppjet6> :/
[03:35] <burner> WoW costs a lot ;)
[03:35] <Ppjet6> i can't test war3 i havn't ^^
[03:35] <BrianSteffens> mmorpgs are cheap if you play them a lot
[03:35] <Ppjet6> yes, i play on private servers :)
[03:36] <BrianSteffens> hehe
[03:36] <BrianSteffens> as a hobby, compare $15 a month to going skiing/snowboarding twice a month
[03:36] <BrianSteffens> or going to the bars every friday
[03:36] <Ppjet6> ^^
[03:36] <Ppjet6> i'm testing steam with wine :)
[03:37] <BrianSteffens> hehe nice
[03:37] <Ppjet6> "Updating platform" :)
[03:39] <Ppjet6> hum :/
[03:42] <morvok> hehe, Qemu sparc-32 emulation is so /slow/..
[03:43] <burner> BrianSteffens, a season pass is $350 and I go about 25 times a year :)
[03:44] <BrianSteffens> :)
[03:45] <Ppjet6> i go to sleep ;), good night and happy Nowel :) (i'm french ^^)
[03:46] <Ppjet6> burner: thanks ;)
[03:47] <wayne_> I have a question about a problem I have in trying to upgrade from kubuntu 6.06 to 6.10
[03:47] <Ppjet6> !! burner -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38610/ :), that's what it result
[03:48] <HailandKill> Hi, the smbclient is installed but smbmount isn't recognised...
[03:48] <burner> mount -t smbfs
[03:48] <Ppjet6> ?
[03:48] <HailandKill> oh, ok, thanks.
[03:49] <burner> Ppjet6, you're trying to compile it?
[03:49] <Ppjet6> cedega, yes :), it's an installation script
[03:49] <wayne_> I tried to do a "apt-get dist-upgrade" from 6.06, and during part of the install, it fails with an error about "incorrect nice value".  How can I recover from this?
[03:49] <burner> get the cedega .deb
[03:49] <Ppjet6> if you have it, yes ^^
[03:50] <burner> wayne_, try dist-upgrading again :)
[03:50] <burner> Ppjet6, transgaming.com ;)
[03:50] <Ppjet6> burner: (http://forum.hardware.fr/hfr/OSAlternatifs/Logiciels-2/cedega-successeur-wouha-sujet_41836_1.htm)
[03:50] <burner> aw man, best of luck to ya... i'm not a hardcore gamer ;)  just play now and again
[03:51] <burner> speaking of... i think again is coming around... i play war3 over and over, wish there was an expansion pack again ;)
[03:51] <Ppjet6> ^^
[03:52] <burner> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[03:52] <burner> follow that!
[03:52] <Ppjet6> thanks ;), i look it
[03:52] <burner> wiki's are so wonderful
[03:53] <wayne_> burner: I tried the dist-upgrade again, and it fails with unmet dependencies on xutils, xutils-dev
[03:54] <burner> apt-get -f install ?
[03:54] <Ppjet6> (i don't find it on french wiki .. ^^, so i'll search on official wiki for the futur :) )
[03:54] <burner> you crazy folks with your beray's and cigarettes
[03:55] <nzk> I need help with my external hard drive
[03:55] <burner> :)  all in good fun... cheers, hope it works
[03:56] <nzk> its ext3 formatted
[03:56] <nzk> and usb
[03:56] <nzk> but when I plug it in, ubuntu doesnt see it :(
[03:57] <burner> usbview see it?
[03:57] <burner> er... dmesg rather
[03:58] <nzk> how do i check?
[03:58] <nzk> fdisk -l doesnt see it
[03:59] <nzk> only nautilus, but i cant do anything because its not mounted
[04:00] <Ppjet6> how could i do to mount an iso ?
[04:01] <onmiforg> IT LIVES!!!!!
[04:01] <Omnifrog> HEHEHE
[04:01] <Ppjet6> mount iso.. /path_to_iso/.. /media/iso ?
[04:02] <burner> Ppjet6, man mount
[04:03] <HailandKill> are there any samba kubuntu guides that take into account that kubuntu apparently doesn't use smbmount and smbumount..?
[04:03] <burner> nzk, can you double click it in nautilus to mount it?
[04:03] <burner> nzk, can you mount it via "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mount/point/of/sorts
[04:04] <burner> wtf... this is kubuntu... where's konq ;)
[04:04] <nzk> the latter command says that it doesnt exist
[04:04] <BrianSteffens> haha burner
[04:04] <BrianSteffens> konq owns :)
[04:05] <HailandKill> mount -t smbfs complains that it doesn't recognise the mount type... apt-get install smbfs is no longer valid either?
[04:07] <HailandKill> Any idea, I'm trying to get my laptop to automatically mount a shared folder from a kubuntu server... I'm used to being able to use smbmount.
[04:09] <burner> HailandKill, fuse?
[04:09] <burner> !fuse
[04:09] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[04:09] <burner> !smbfuse | HailandKill
[04:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smbfuse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:10] <burner> well crap... fusesmb is the package in universe... feel free to search the wiki ;)
[04:11] <HailandKill> I'm mounting from a kubuntu server, it doesn't use NTFS
[04:11] <BrianSteffens> command to untar .gz file? tar -xvf [file]  or so?
[04:11] <burner> HailandKill, it's through a network as samba right?  then the NTFS portion on the other end doesn't matter... samba is samba
[04:12] <HailandKill> No, sorry... there isn't NTFS anywhere. Isn't fuse for NTFS?
[04:16] <burner> fusesmb will mount the "network neighborhood" in a directory you create
[04:16] <burner> it's rad :)
[04:16] <burner> very useful for apps that don't support samba streaming on their own... everything just works :)
[04:16] <menace> !mp3
[04:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:17] <menace> !source-o-matic
[04:17] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:17] <HailandKill> burner, ok. Thanks for the help
[04:18] <Ppjet6> burner:  ! i'm installing wow ! , but i see that i havn't installed fonts :/
[04:18] <Ppjet6> *i've seen (?)
[04:19] <burner> good luck, i just watched a bit of that south park WoW episode ;)
[04:19] <Ppjet6> ^^
[04:19] <Ppjet6> (50% !)
[04:22] <brianw> hmmn I downloaded the edgy eft livedcd, it downloaded fine, but the md5sum don't match...
[04:23] <brianw> s/livedcd/livedvd/
[04:23] <burner> brianw, get it again :)  i suggest torrents :)
[04:23] <brianw> I get slower rates w/ torrent tough
[04:23] <brianw> though*
[04:25] <brianw> oh well, trying the torrent
[04:26] <burner> really?  crazy
[04:26] <burner> in any event, redownload
[04:26] <brianw> yeah, I get 900KB/sec with wget
[04:27] <brianw> getting like 240KB/sec from the torrent right now
[04:32] <joncrlsn> help
[04:32] <joncrlsn> sorry.  I was trying to ask Konversation for help.  Not the list
[04:35] <Ppjet6> burner: wow is installed ! but i'll not be able to play with if it runs like that :/, i don't see mouse moving :/
[04:36] <pluto> I get this error as a result of a make clean. How can I fix it? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38615/
[04:37] <burner> Ppjet6, get better video drivers?
[04:37] <brianw> pluto: there is no clean target for make in the Makefile
[04:38] <pluto> O.o that's not good. How do i fix it?
[04:38] <Ppjet6> burner: yes, i think too
[04:39] <Ppjet6> burner: thanks for all ;), good night
[04:40] <burner> adios Ppjet6
[04:43] <codemonkey2> KLaptop is not detecting when i plug in the power? what could it be????? it just happened before? any ideas appreciated
[04:43] <pegs-using-e17> apci or apmd?
[04:43] <codemonkey2> the charger is deffinately charing the batt i checked into in /proc/acpi/bat0/info
[04:43] <codemonkey2> acpi
[04:44] <pegs-using-e17> is it installed and running?
[04:44] <codemonkey2> yes
[04:44] <codemonkey2> it just show the on battery icon
[04:44] <codemonkey2> wont change
[04:44] <codemonkey2> ive tried shutting it down etc
[04:44] <Theory> quick question: is there any way to remove the hibernate and suspend entries from the logout menu?
[04:44] <codemonkey2> but to no avail, it wored before and i did nothing to it wierd :\
[04:44] <pegs-using-e17> when plugging it in does the laptop react
[04:44] <brianw> wow, just had a decent earthquake
[04:45] <pegs-using-e17> like, does the screen go brighter and the battey start charging
[04:45] <pegs-using-e17> brianw: rock!! :)
[04:45] <codemonkey2> well klaptop doesnt make screen change
[04:45] <codemonkey2> but i check the battery info
[04:45] <brianw> heh
[04:45] <codemonkey2> and its state changes
[04:45] <pegs-using-e17> so it is actually charging?
[04:45] <codemonkey2> yes
[04:46] <pegs-using-e17> umm... close the app and restart?
[04:46] <rcrook> well its all now working on my toshiba satellite A100.... except I am not sure about the mbmon and sensors for it. anyone got any clues?
[04:46] <pegs-using-e17> the app i mean
[04:47] <codemonkey2> i tried closing it and restart still no work
[04:47] <pegs-using-e17> have u got glrellm installed?
[04:47] <pegs-using-e17> gkrellm i mean (typo)
[04:47] <codemonkey2> no
[04:48] <codemonkey2> nah i dont deffinately
[04:48] <pegs-using-e17> u could try installing that and using it to monitor...
[04:48] <codemonkey2> but klaptop was working
[04:48] <codemonkey2> im sure a restart of computer would fix
[04:48] <codemonkey2> but i dont like doing that
[04:49] <pegs-using-e17> lol.. the dreaded reboot (curse of windoze)
[04:49] <codemonkey2> heheh
[04:49] <codemonkey2> yeah
[04:49] <codemonkey2> i liked gentoo with openbox
[04:49] <codemonkey2> no issues
[04:49] <codemonkey2> had to goto ubuntu after i tried to rebuild the reiser partition and killed the whole drive
[04:49] <dwidmann> hahaha
[04:49] <pegs-using-e17> umm... you could try restarting the service.. although im not sure how that would affect the laptop
[04:49] <codemonkey2> and needed to be up and running quick, although i like not having to write my own power management scripts etc.
[04:49] <dwidmann> partitioning fun ...
[04:50] <codemonkey2> liked the speed of gentoo
[04:50] <dwidmann> codemonkey2: What's slow, exactly?
[04:51] <codemonkey2> i cant even run radrails ide in kde
[04:51] <codemonkey2> chugs like a bitch
[04:51] <codemonkey2> my hdd ticks over constantly
[04:51] <codemonkey2> maybe i should just use openbox on ubuntu
[04:51] <codemonkey2> but i like all kdes features
[04:51] <dwidmann> is (lack of) memory at fault?
[04:51] <codemonkey2> 512
[04:51] <pegs-using-e17> u could quit klaptop, backup the config directory for klaptop and delete the origional, and then log off, log in again and see if it works
[04:52] <codemonkey2> where is its config?
[04:52] <Linux_Galore> codemonkey2: kde on my Ubuntu install uses 168mb, I would check what running
[04:52] <Linux_Galore> what's*
[04:52] <pegs-using-e17> i use e17 with konqueror and other kde apps.. i like kde apps.. just not the gui overhead
[04:52] <codemonkey2> k
[04:52] <dwidmann> Hahaha, man, my system is a hog ... I'm using 635MB right now.
[04:52] <codemonkey2> lol
[04:52] <codemonkey2> so wheres the config? cheers
[04:53] <LeeJunFan> omg
[04:53] <Linux_Galore> I found Linux has a habbit of using as much ram as possible tp speed up caching
[04:53] <LeeJunFan> I don't use that much when I run vmware with windows XP AND Win2k3 as VM's, on top of running apache and mysql, beryl, etc locally.
[04:53] <dwidmann> No, I'm using 2 gb if you count the cache :D
[04:53] <Linux_Galore> codemonkey2: on kcontrol is one for kde and you can use ksysguard to check whats using what
[04:54] <Linux_Galore> in*
[04:54] <Linux_Galore> beryl is a bit of a ram hog
[04:54] <dwidmann> Xorg + Beryl are taking an enourmous amount for an unknown reason ...
[04:54] <codemonkey2> ill restart bbs
[04:54] <pegs-using-e17> ok
[04:54] <JohnFlux_> dwidmann: heh
[04:54] <pegs-using-e17> cant find it. rats.. was hoping that would work
[04:54] <dwidmann> 240MB between the two of them ...
[04:54] <LeeJunFan> Linux_Galore: not from what I've seen. My system uses virtually no more RAM with beryl than w/o.
[04:55] <JohnFlux_> dwidmann: that includes video card memory
[04:55] <Linux_Galore> LeeJunFan: uses more here
[04:55] <JohnFlux_> dwidmann: ignore those numbers
[04:55] <dwidmann> Hmmm, interesting
[04:55] <Linux_Galore> LeeJunFan: my fps goes down too
[04:55] <dwidmann> I see no reason why Kopete should be using 106MB of RAM either ..
[04:56] <JohnFlux_> dwidmann: that's the shared amount - it includes all the kde libraries
[04:56] <dwidmann> No, I'm looking at Vmrss
[04:56] <Linux_Galore> yeah, sounds like kopete has a leak or its segging
[04:57] <shane_b> Hello
[04:57] <dwidmann> hello
[04:57] <shane_b> I need some help burning Edgy, but I think I just have a corrupt ISO
[04:58] <codemonkey2> ok before i restarted kded crashed
[04:58] <codemonkey2> restarted that
[04:58] <codemonkey2> and it was fine
[04:58] <shane_b> "The entered block size does not correspond with the length of the image"
[04:58] <codemonkey2> what wouldn cause kded to crash?
[04:58] <dwidmann> shane_b, did you check the md5's?
[04:58] <pegs-using-e17> so it works now?
[04:58] <shane_b> MD5s?
[04:58] <codemonkey2> and one more thing on startup of kde i get this error "The process for the system protocol died unexpectedly." any ideas?
[04:58] <LeeJunFan> !md5
[04:58] <ubotu> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[04:58] <shane_b> BTW, I'm using Nero 7.
[04:58] <shane_b> Ahkay, thanks
[04:59] <pegs-using-e17> codemonkey2: umm.. i wouldnt know.. in most cases i nuke the kde directory in my home folder and the let it re-create itself
[05:00] <codemonkey2> is that for the startup error?
[05:00] <pegs-using-e17> seems to fix most things.. unfortunatly.. i then have to set it all back up again
[05:00] <pegs-using-e17> yeah.. although.. im sure theres a better solution
[05:00] <codemonkey2> yeah
[05:00] <pegs-using-e17> what do u have running on startup
[05:00] <dwidmann> backup the .kde directory, nuke it, copy back what you n eed?
[05:01] <codemonkey2> umm knetworkmanager and thats bout it
[05:01] <codemonkey2> not much
[05:01] <pegs-using-e17> ok.. if you stop that running on statup does it fix it?
[05:01] <codemonkey2> ill try
[05:01] <codemonkey2> it did work fine yesterday
[05:02] <codemonkey2> i getting all these wierd things, i setup bluehost hosting, uploaded a ruby on rails app up, it wouldnt work
[05:02] <codemonkey2> couldnt figure it out
[05:02] <codemonkey2> lastnight went to check it and it was working fine, and i did nothing like wtf hate that things just start to work
[05:02] <pegs-using-e17> umm.. i had that experience with ms access once..
[05:03] <codemonkey2> he
[05:03] <codemonkey2> heh*
[05:03] <codemonkey2> its just strange it doesnt work do nothing it does
[05:03] <pegs-using-e17> maybe it needs time to initialize?
[05:03] <codemonkey2> i thought that
[05:04] <codemonkey2> but couldnt think of a logical reason
[05:04] <codemonkey2> ruby was working fine cause was gettting ruby errors etc,, but maybe not everything was finished.
[05:04] <pegs-using-e17> logic???
[05:04] <codemonkey2> i had some luck, i registered a domain, then hosting, changed nameserver on domain, and it worked instantly, amazing :)
[05:04] <codemonkey2> no waiting
[05:05] <pegs-using-e17> nice
[05:05] <codemonkey2> usually takes hours in my experience heh couldnt believe it
[05:05] <codemonkey2> 2 secounds later it works
[05:05] <codemonkey2> like bluehost.com but 7.99 us a month and 50gb plus 999GB transfers
[05:05] <codemonkey2> everything you could need
[05:05] <pegs-using-e17> thats great...
[05:05] <Kr4t05> codemonkey2: It may only have worked for your subdomain.
[05:06] <codemonkey2> maybe
[05:06] <codemonkey2> actually one question i want answered
[05:06] <codemonkey2> you got say www.bobjones.com
[05:06] <Kr4t05> codemonkey2: It takes several hours for the changes to take effect globally.
[05:06] <codemonkey2> and www.janejones.com
[05:06] <codemonkey2> they map to the same ip
[05:06] <codemonkey2> but are different sites
[05:06] <codemonkey2> does the nameserver know www.bobjones.com is in folder bobjo etc?
[05:06] <Kr4t05> codemonkey2: Hrm... Maybe...
[05:07] <Kr4t05> It depends on how you have Apache configured.
[05:07] <codemonkey2> how can it be configures?
[05:07] <Kr4t05> But, I'm not good with httpds anyway...
[05:07] <shane_b> MD5sum Faileed
[05:07] <Kr4t05> codemonkey2: Are you hosting from your own machine or a shell account?
[05:08] <codemonkey2> i got a host
[05:08] <codemonkey2> i want to know how it works
[05:08] <codemonkey2> because i want to setup my own server, nameservers etc
[05:08] <Kr4t05> codemonkey2: You'll need to talk with your host provider.
[05:08] <Kr4t05> They should be able to give you some hints.
[05:08] <codemonkey2> just want to know how when 5 diff addresses map to 1 ip how it knows where the document root for that domain is
[05:08] <codemonkey2> yeh
[05:08] <codemonkey2> might do
[05:09] <shane_b> Okay, are you guys finished?
[05:10] <codemonkey2> yeh sorry buddy?
[05:10] <codemonkey2> !
[05:10] <pegs-using-e17> MD5 sum failed?... on the image check?
[05:10] <shane_b> Its okay
[05:10] <shane_b> yes.
[05:11] <pegs-using-e17> bad image... re-download
[05:11] <shane_b> 349 of 422 failed
[05:11] <shane_b> Thought so
[05:11] <shane_b> Thanks
[05:11] <pegs-using-e17> np
[05:14] <hagabaka> hmm, minesweeper in aptitude
[05:22] <codemonkey2> anyone else know how nameservers work>
[05:22] <codemonkey2> ?
[05:23] <brianw> codemonkey2: what do you mean>
[05:23] <codemonkey2> ok
[05:23] <codemonkey2> u got two ips
[05:24] <codemonkey2> www.bob.com and www.mary.com
[05:24] <codemonkey2> they both map to say 1.1.1.1
[05:24] <codemonkey2> how does the server forward you
[05:24] <codemonkey2> does it send www.mary.com to 1.1.1.1
[05:24] <codemonkey2> and then the server says here the docs are in /var/www/docs/mary for example
[05:25] <codemonkey2> like im just confused i got a domain, and you delegate it to a nameserver, what is this doing exactly. How is it i reg domain at one place, the delegate it to another nameserver?
[05:25] <codemonkey2> confuses me should leave networking and stick to programming
[05:26] <codemonkey2> but yeah can someone give ma a pointer to ease my mind :P
[05:26] <brianw> codemonkey2: you mean for apache?
[05:26] <codemonkey2> yes
[05:27] <brianw> there are multiple ways to do virtual hosting
[05:27] <codemonkey2> well firstly what does delegating my domain do
[05:27] <brianw> ip based or name based
[05:27] <codemonkey2> ok
[05:27] <codemonkey2> does it mean when you lookup my domain
[05:27] <codemonkey2> it it pointing to the nameserver i delegated it to
[05:27] <brianw> well that has nothing to do with it
[05:27] <codemonkey2> its just 1 question
[05:28] <codemonkey2> sorry offtrack here
[05:29] <brianw> I always get dns hosted for me. Then I just setup the A records www or whatever
[05:29] <brianw> it is usually cheap when you bundle it with domain registration
[05:30] <codemonkey2> ok
[05:30] <codemonkey2> but how does the whole thing work, delegation and mapping from domain to ip to my documents
[05:30] <brianw> codemonkey2: if  you don't have dns services, then you need to set up bind for your domain
[05:30] <codemonkey2> ?
[05:32] <brianw> well with name mased virtual hosting, you can point 2 domains to the same ip, and depending on what url they typed into their browser they get to one domain or the other. In your apache document root, you will have a dir named after each domain. like foo.com bar.com
[05:33] <brianw> but in either case you need an authoritave dns server for each domain. Usually I have the registrant provide this for me. Otherwise you need to set up bind to do it for each domain.
[05:34] <codemonkey2> like my domain
[05:35] <codemonkey2> is dailysoft.com.au for example
[05:35] <codemonkey2> but my docuemnt root is dailyso
[05:35] <codemonkey2> not the full name? that normal
[05:36] <brianw> Are you going to host sites on there?
[05:36] <brianw> besides dailysoft.com.au
[05:37] <codemonkey2> no
[05:37] <codemonkey2> this is just on bluehost
[05:37] <codemonkey2> a host i setup
[05:37] <codemonkey2> they are a hosting company
[05:38] <brianw> so don't worry about it
[05:38] <brianw> they sort all that out for you
[05:39] <hagabaka> is there a package for the win32 codecs on mplayer's home page? specificly the wmv codec?
[05:40] <brianw> I do not think that is provided by mplayer
[05:40] <codemonkey2> just wierd how they made it dailyso not dailysoft.com.au
[05:40] <brianw> brianw@hathor ~ $ qsearch -H win32codecs
[05:40] <brianw> media-libs/win32codecs http://www.mplayerhq.hu/
[05:40] <codemonkey2> whatif someone comes along and tries to reg dailyso.com.au then they are screwed
[05:40] <brianw> codemonkey2: nah, they just use a different dir name
[05:41] <codemonkey2> guess so you think it be easier but anywho i wont wory
[05:41] <brianw> codemonkey2: they could use dailyso.com.au for the dir name if they wanted to
[05:41] <hagabaka> hmm
[05:41] <hagabaka> so they're called win32codecs? do you know which repository has them?
[05:41] <brianw> hagabaka: I guess I was wrong :)
[05:42] <hagabaka> what is qsearch?
[05:42] <brianw> hagabaka: I have not used kubuntu yet :)
[05:42] <brianw> hagabaka: it is a gentoo tool
[05:42] <hagabaka> i see
[05:42] <brianw> hagabaka: I am still trying to get the livedvd to download w/ a matching md5sum ...
[05:43] <CaBlGuY> !flash 9
[05:43] <ubotu> flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[05:43] <CaBlGuY> !backports
[05:43] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[05:44] <brianw> flash9 hangs my ff too much
[05:44] <hagabaka> does aptitude automatically update the package list periodicly or do i have to do it myself?
[05:47] <hagabaka> i keep timing out when connecting to cipherfunk.org, when doing aptitude update. does it matter? can i use a different server for whatever it is for?
[05:48] <hagabaka> oh, shut down
[05:51] <matthew_> mmmm, nice and quiet
[05:59] <hagabaka> do every deb repository contain main, universe and multiverse? or is there a way to check?
[06:00] <T3hWiz0rd> hagabaka: i think they typically have all.
[06:00] <robotgeek> hagabaka: no
[06:00] <hagabaka> does multiverse contain unverse and main, or are those disjoint?
[06:00] <robotgeek> hagabaka: disjoint
[06:01] <dwidmann> hagabaka: to check, just punch in the url, you can usually browse the folders
[06:02] <hagabaka> i see
[06:02] <momal> For some reason my microphone doesn't work... I can hear it echo though my speakers (blowing/talking into mic) but then skype and Krec wont pick it up... Any ideas on how to fix? (I have it selected and unmuted in Kmix)
[06:05] <hagabaka> is http://people.ubuntu.com/~doko/OOo2/ a valid repository? it doesn't have a "dists" directory like the others
[06:07] <jontec_> is there a tool to redetect hardware on your system?
[06:12] <pluto> I'm trying to run a binary script to install a driver but it keeps screwing up, what can I do?
[06:12] <dwidmann> hagabaka: It might not be, as far as I can see, the Release and Packages files (which list the packages available in the repository) are stored in the dists folder
[06:13] <hagabaka> oh
[06:23] <dwidmann> Wow, killer lag followed by a disconnect ... I guess that comes as part of the package with giant downloads ...
[06:27] <rjian> i need help...
[06:28] <rjian> can i still resize the hard disk on dual boot??
[06:29] <pluto> Anyone know why I get a /drivers/infiniband error everytime I try to perform a make clean on my system?
[06:33] <Pirate-king> can you compress phots in kubuntu?
[06:33] <Pirate-king> can you compress photos in kubuntu?
[06:33] <hagabaka> what kind of compress?
[06:34] <Pirate-king> to send in an email
[06:34] <hagabaka> zip?
[06:34] <Pirate-king> like picassa
[06:34] <hagabaka> or resize?
[06:34] <Pirate-king> resize
[06:35] <hagabaka> you could try krita, or any of the other programs listed in Graphics in the K menu. and there are more you can install
[06:37] <Pirate-king> ok...still looking at installing kubuntu but want to make sure all my programs I use in xp will be doable in kubuntu
[06:37] <Pirate-king> downloading the iso now
[06:37] <brianw> imagemagick is nice
[06:38] <Pirate-king> photo editer?
[06:38] <brianw> well kind of
[06:38] <brianw> media-gfx/imagemagick A collection of tools and libraries for many image formats
[06:39] <brianw> alot of image manipulation gui's use that as a backend
[06:39] <Pirate-king> ok that is what i was asking? what I was asking what imagemagick was
[06:40] <reave> how do I get mpgs to work in kubuntu
[06:40] <hagabaka> yes
[06:40] <reave> I run some mpgs with kaffiene and there audio but not video
[06:40] <brianw> reave: you probably need win32codecs
[06:41] <reave> are they compatible with kubuntu64 bit?
[06:41] <reave> and where do I find them?
[06:41] <hagabaka> Pirate-king: it dosen't provide an UI like image editors, but you can manipulate images with commands, e.g. using a single command to resize an image
[06:42] <robotgeek> reave: no, not compatible with 64 bit, unless you setup chroot, i think
[06:42] <reave> !chroot
[06:42] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[06:42] <robotgeek> Pirate-king: you can also use digikam, which performs basic batch editing on images, with a gui
[06:43] <magic_ninja> i got a few questions about encoding
[06:44] <magic_ninja> i know about encoding, but i'm having probs with mpg123 encoding a wav file, i used mpg -w *.mp3 and that part was fine but it encoded to *wav (one file only), and i want each mp3 to get encoded
[06:44] <magic_ninja> do i have to do this individually
[06:47] <brianw> magic_ninja: for i in *.mp3; do mpg-w $i;done
[06:47] <brianw> magic_ninja: for i in *.mp3; do mpg -w $i;done
[06:48] <brianw> magic_ninja: btw, going from mp3 to wave is usually not a great idea. mp3 is a lossy compression
[06:48] <momal> For some reason my microphone doesn't work... I can hear it echo though my speakers (blowing/talking into mic) but then skype and Krec wont pick it up... Any ideas on how to fix? (I have it selected and unmuted in Kmix)
[06:49] <brianw> momal: you need to make sure you are selecting it in the recording section. not the playback section
[06:50] <magic_ninja> ohhh, ok, what does "i" stand for
[06:50] <magic_ninja> i get it now, you use wildcards
[06:50] <brianw> magic_ninja: it is just a variable
[06:50] <momal> brianw: Kmix only has output and input... mic is only listed in input and thats where its selected
[06:50] <brianw> magic_ninja: you could do: for foo in *.mp3; do mpg -w $foo;done
[06:51] <brianw> for i in {1..4}; do wget http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/kubuntu/edgy/release/kubuntu-6.10-dvd-i386.iso && md5sum kubuntu-6.10-dvd-i386.iso >> kubuntu_sums && mv kubuntu-6.10-dvd-i386.iso kubuntu-6.10-dvd-i386.iso.$i ;done
[06:51] <knapp> What package do I need to install to get video previews in Konqueror?
[06:51] <brianw> I am doing that one now to test if I get different md5sums :)
[06:58] <magic_ninja> brianw: i'm kind of confused sir
[07:00] <magic_ninja> brianw: ohh you mean thats actually a part of the prog
[07:00] <brianw> magic_ninja: what program?
[07:01] <brianw> magic_ninja: `for` is just a bash program
[07:01] <magic_ninja> brianw: well command line, the "for i in *.mp3" part confused me, didn't realize it was a part of the command, but is there a graphical frontend to all this
[07:02] <brianw> magic_ninja: a graphical front end to bash?
[07:02] <magic_ninja> brianw: no sir to mp321 or such for encoding
[07:03] <akrus> is there any way to convert NTFS -> EXT3 without losing any data
[07:03] <brianw> magic_ninja: mpg321 is a cli tool. There are many frontends to mpg321
[07:03] <brianw> akrus: afaik, no
[07:03] <akrus> sucky x_X
[07:03] <magic_ninja> brianw: ok, i got ya now
[07:03] <magic_ninja> brianw: ty
[07:03] <brianw> magic_ninja: http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/sect_09_01.html
[07:04] <seven11_> sombody help i have 22 gb pix and i know there are some double how can i find the double and throw them out
[07:05] <brianw> seven11_: use `find`
[07:05] <dwidmann> seven11_: install kipi-plugins, and then either in gwenview or digikam use the find duplicates plugin
[07:07] <seven11_> thanks dwidmann i will give it a try
[07:07] <spitwise> !slocate
[07:07] <ubotu> slocate: Secure replacement of findutil's locate. In component main, is extra. Version 3.1-1 (edgy), package size 29 kB, installed size 152 kB
[07:08] <dwidmann> With 22gb worth of pics it will take a little while, though much, much faster than going through them all by h and
[07:08] <seven11_> i was afraid you would say that
[07:09] <deus> can you guys help me set up a wireless connection?
[07:09] <dwidmann> It'll take a while to fingerprint them, and run the comparisons. It might take as much as an hour, give or take, depending on how weak (or strong) your hardware is
[07:11] <dwidmann> I don't know anything about wireless, but the friendly neighborhood bot might ...
[07:11] <dwidmann> !iwireless
[07:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about iwireless - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:11] <dwidmann> !wireless
[07:11] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:11] <akrus> could someone tell me: is there any way to move Linux from /dev/sda6 to /dev/sda1?
[07:11] <dwidmann> Depends, what's on sda1 at the moment?
[07:12] <brianw> akrus: you could boot a livecd and use `dd`
[07:12] <brianw> dd if=/dev/sda6 of=/dev/sda1
[07:13] <brianw> assuming sda1 is the same size as sda6
[07:13] <brianw> or bigger
[07:13] <dwidmann> don't forget to run grub-install afterwards either, or you'll regret it
[07:13] <dwidmann> or mayhap I'm thinking update-grub
[07:13] <dwidmann> silly me
[07:14] <momal> I can hear my microphone echo through my speakers but can't get it to work in skype or Krec. I selected it in the input section and unmuted it in Kmix but still no work. Anyideas??
[07:15] <dwidmann> Not sure, isn't there a skype forum?
[07:15] <dwidmann> I'm willing to bet this has come up (numerous times) before
[07:17] <robotgeek> deus: install knetworkmanager, it works well for me. ymmv
[07:18] <momal> dwidmann: Its not a skype problem it happens in Krec as well. Nothing will record using sound from mic
[07:18] <dwidmann> I figured as much, I'm just saying, I bet people ask there anyway ;)
[07:19] <deus> robotgeek: how do you use it?
[07:19] <deus> whats the command to restart ethernet?
[07:20] <robotgeek> deus: backup your /etc/network/interfaces, remove all information from it other than "auto lo" and start knetworkmanager
[07:20] <robotgeek> deus: /etc/init.d/networking restart
[07:21] <deus> okay, no what?
[07:22] <akrus> brianw: thanks
[07:22] <deus> robotgeek, now what?
[07:23] <robotgeek> deus: auto lo
[07:23] <robotgeek> iface lo inet loopback
[07:23] <prak> does anyone know how to setup samba?
[07:23] <deus> what?
[07:23] <prak> using smb4k?
[07:23] <robotgeek> makde sure these are the only lines in /etc/network/interfaces, however install knetworkmanager first
[07:24] <brianw> smb4k is just to mount samba shares right? it is not used to set up samba shares i think...
[07:24] <deus> okay
[07:25] <prak> brianw, what program is used for samba shares?
[07:25] <brianw> prak: I think kde has a tool to setup a sambe server
[07:25] <prak> what i'm trying to do is to access files and printer connected to another computers operating on windows
[07:26] <brianw> prak: also , samba comes with a utility called swat. it is cli, but it helps in setting up samba server
[07:26] <brianw> prak: ahh
[07:26] <brianw> prak: smb4k should do that fine
[07:26] <brianw> prak: you can also use the smb kio slave
[07:26] <prak> which one is the easiest one to use?
[07:27] <prak> brianw, b/c i'm kind of stuck on smb4k
[07:27] <brianw> prak: depends if it is a one time access or persistent use I guess
[07:27] <prak> persistent use
[07:27] <prak> brianw
[07:27] <brianw> smb4k would be better suited I guess.
[07:27] <hagabaka> with aptitude search, can i search for only packages containing all of the keywords?
[07:28] <prak> i don't know if i mounted the files on the other computer properly, brianw
[07:28] <brianw> prak: I use this myself: http://www.ricardis.tudelft.nl/~vincent/fusesmb/
[07:28] <brianw> prak: well check the mount points
[07:29] <prak> brianw, it says smbmnt must be installed
[07:30] <dwidmann> smbmnt works well ... though it's not perfect
[07:30] <deus_> robotgeek: how come my wireless is not listed?  Or any wireless?  There are many in my area
[07:30] <brianw> eww, I use cifs instead of smbmount. smbmount is for older win98 networking
[07:30] <magic_ninja> wow, women go crazy when you hand them a diamond
[07:30] <robotgeek> deus_: what does "sudo iwconfig ethX scan" list
[07:31] <prak> brianw, i'm trying to set up samba networking with a windows xp computer
[07:31] <brianw> prak: yeah that would be cifs
[07:31] <dwidmann> brianw: it also happens to work fine with winxp networking.
[07:31] <ashutosh> Hi fellas
[07:31] <brianw> dwidmann: it works slower
[07:31] <deus_> unrecognized request scan
[07:31] <dwidmann> at least, it worked for me(TM)
[07:32] <dwidmann> I didn't notice any issues with speed ...
[07:32] <brianw> dwidmann: I have tested it
[07:32] <robotgeek> deus_: maybe you have to "sudo ifconfig ethX up"
[07:32] <ashutosh> Has ubuntu edgy hibernation stopped working for anyone?
[07:32] <prak> brianw, would cifs work for smb4k?
[07:32] <dwidmann> Then again, I have fast computers and a fast network ...
[07:32] <brianw> dwidmann: mount the same share using smbfs then cifs and do some transfer tests
[07:32] <robotgeek> deus_: also better to down the other connections
[07:32] <prak> or should i use the program that you're using?
[07:32] <brianw> prak: it supports bith smbfs and cifs
[07:32] <deus_> unrecognized request up
[07:33] <prak> brianw, are you talking about smb4k?
[07:33] <brianw> prak: smb4k can use smbfs and cifs
[07:33] <robotgeek> deus_: oh, when i mean ethX, i mean eth0/eth1 , whichever your wireless card is
[07:33] <deus_> yeah, I got that.  Im using eth1
[07:33] <prak> ok
[07:33] <dwidmann> Hmm, I'll be back later, I feel like testing LG3d now
[07:33] <robotgeek> deus_: which wireless card
[07:34] <prak> brianw, do i need to do anything to the windows xp computer before continuing on with samba?
[07:34] <deus_> whatever came with the computer... Dell E1705
[07:35] <robotgeek> deus_: hmm, "sudo lshw" to the pastebin, please
[07:36] <deus_> pastebin.com/844080
[07:37] <deus_> http://pastebin.com/844080
[07:39] <robotgeek> deus_: also, lsmod output please
[07:39] <prak> brianw, i should have swat to help me to browse files with smb4k, right?
[07:39] <brianw> prak: no need. swat is mainly used to set up samba server
[07:40] <deus_> http://pastebin.com/844081
[07:40] <prak> brianw, my situation is that smb4k found the windows workgroup
[07:41] <prak> brianw, but i can't mount the files on that computer
[07:41] <brianw> prak: what error do you get?
[07:41] <prak> brianw, smbmnt should be installed
[07:41] <brianw> prak: so install it
[07:41] <brianw> prak: afaik, that should be provided by the samba package though
[07:42] <brianw> prak: at least in gentoo it is. I have yet to use kubuntu still.
[07:42] <prak> brianw, i can't find smbmnt in the package manager, and i'm not sure which smbmnt files are legit on the net
[07:43] <robotgeek> deus_: http://pastebin.com/844082
[07:46] <deus_> robotgeek: I did the first command, and it said "eth1: Host name lookup failure"
[07:46] <robotgeek> deus_: weird. really weird
[07:48] <deus_> really?
[07:48] <robotgeek> deus_: intel cards usually dont create an issue
[07:50] <deus_> hmm...
[07:50] <deus_> well, it is a dell...
[07:51] <smaggard> hiya
[07:51] <robotgeek> well, i dunno why your wireless is not coming up. what does "sudo iwconfig eth1" tell you
[07:52] <deus_> http://pastebin.com/844085
[07:53] <Firefishe> I'm compiling wine source into a .deb file for ubuntu/kubuntu 6.06 (dapper) for POWER PC and I get this compile error:  http://pastebin.com/844083
[07:55] <flaccid> !wpa
[07:55] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:55] <edgy> Hi, dig @127.0.0.1 mysite.com would respond with mysite.com.             3600    IN      NS      authns-ws.iad.mysite.com. how can I let dig just query the localhost ns server?
[07:55] <robotgeek> deus_: well, its connected
[07:55] <robotgeek> deus_: sudo iwconfig eth1 scan
[07:57] <deus_> again, unrecognized wireless request "scan"
[07:57] <deus_> btw, 2WIRE729 is my wireless router
[07:58] <robotgeek> hmm, maybe your card does not support canning
[07:58] <robotgeek> scanning
[07:58] <smaggard> where are the file associations located in kubuntu?
[07:59] <smaggard> cuz i wanna change the icons for folders and stuff
[07:59] <smaggard> nvm
[07:59] <dwidmann> smaggard: right click on a file of the type in question, should be a wrench near the upper right hand corner for messing with stuff regarding that filetype ...
[08:00] <smaggard> alrighty thank ya
[08:00] <deus_> wait, what kind of scanning? Because it had no problems doing that in windows, and one of the gui programs scanned alright, robotgeek.
[08:01] <prak> are you still there, brianw?
[08:01] <robotgeek> deus_: sudo iwlist eth1 scan, sorry
[08:01] <robotgeek> duh
[08:01] <dwidmann> smaggard: another place to look at is kcontrol, type in file associations and it'll give you the whole list
[08:02] <deus_> its okay
[08:03] <deus_> http://pastebin.com/844087
[08:03] <smaggard> :D
[08:03] <deus_> the first one, 2Wire729 is mine as i said
[08:04] <robotgeek> deus_: there you go, there are all the wireless networks :)
[08:04] <deus_> okay
[08:04] <robotgeek> deus_: knetworkmanager should work very well, i think
[08:05] <smaggard> icons are way cool!
[08:05] <deus_> alright, the pull-down menu from the system tray only displays a wired connection, no wireless stuff
[08:05] <robotgeek> deus_: are you sure you dont have an entry in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[08:06] <makuseru> anyone know of a program to get videos off youtube?
[08:06] <deus_> robotgeek: what do you mean?
[08:06] <robotgeek> deus_: also, if it has a wired connection, it does not bother with wireless
[08:06] <deus_> okay, hold no
[08:06] <robotgeek> makuseru: firefox + video downloader plugin
[08:07] <deus_> I unplugged it, but still no wireless
[08:07] <robotgeek> makuseru: then use vlc latest to see those files
[08:07] <robotgeek> deus_: can you also paste /etc/network/interfaces
[08:07] <deus_> (Im using two computers
[08:07] <deus_> well, its only two lines
[08:07] <deus_> auto lo
[08:07] <prak> does anyone know if i should have setup a samba server on a windows computer in order to have a linux computer gaining access to that windows computer?
[08:07] <deus_> and iface lo inet loopback
[08:07] <robotgeek> deus_: oh okay.
[08:08] <deus_> just like you told me
[08:08] <deus_> I backed up the old interfaces
[08:09] <makuseru> robotgeek: whats the name of the plugin? do you know
[08:09] <robotgeek> deus_: maybe, you should try to restart knetworkmanger, kill the old daemon. (its networksomething)
[08:09] <robotgeek> makuseru: video downloader
[08:09] <makuseru> thanks
[08:09] <deus_> how do I  kill the old daemon?
[08:09] <Firefishe> deus_: use the older pentagram? *duck* ;)
[08:10] <deus_> very funny
[08:10] <Firefishe> deus_: sorry, I just *had* to ;) hee
[08:10] <robotgeek> heh
[08:11] <deus_> yeah, Ill save the new pentagram for you
[08:11] <robotgeek> deus_: ps -ef | grep network , (it will say networkmanger-blah)
[08:11] <deus_> yeah
[08:13] <deus_> cant find anything
[08:13] <makuseru> is there a way to convert .flv to .mpg in kubuntu?
[08:13] <deus_> it just says grep network and kdesu kwrite
[08:14] <robotgeek> makuseru: the latest vlc plays it just fine, it might be an issue getting the latest vlc though
[08:14] <robotgeek> deus_: then alt + f2, and knetworkmanger then
[08:14] <makuseru> i need it as an mpeg
[08:15] <makuseru> mpg*
[08:15] <deus_> okay, i get the knetworkmanager icon back in my system tray, and it still doesnt have wireless
[08:15] <robotgeek> deus_: i really dont know what is wrong, really.
[08:16] <deus_> okay, fine
[08:16] <robotgeek> i would think restarting the daemon should just work
[08:16] <deus_> maybe restarting the computer?
[08:16] <robotgeek> i will not recommend anyone to restart their machine on linux
[08:16] <robotgeek> heh
[08:16] <deus_> really?
[08:16] <robotgeek> deus_: its not needed, really
[08:16] <deus_> why not?
[08:16] <deus_> oh
[08:16] <deus_> okay, well 1) I have a dual boot
[08:16] <robotgeek> the only reason to do it when you have kernel upgrades
[08:17] <deus_> 2) its a laptop
[08:17] <robotgeek> anyways, restart it since we dunno what the service name is
[08:18] <deus_> hmm.. the screen just went blank
[08:18] <deus_> and its not responding
[08:19] <No1Viking> I have problems getting my PC connected to my Wireless LAN. Any ieas what do to?
[08:19] <deus_> its doing a whole lot of nothing
[08:20] <No1Viking> I have problems getting my PC, with KDE, connected to my Wireless LAN and I know that it works without problems in Gnome. Any ideas what do to?
[08:22] <No1Viking> More information.... When trying to set WEP key and Hex it seems it does not save the data
[08:23] <deus_> hey! I rebooted and it did something
[08:23] <cpk1> I moved my desktop to a different location changing monitors and now I cant seem to get X to start
[08:23] <No1Viking> Anywhere else I can out that data so it's permanent in the system?
[08:23] <smaggard> can i also make the docking panel transparent too?
[08:24] <cpk1> looking at xorg.conf it seems that it recognized I had a different monitor since it changed the refresh rates but I am not really sure what is wrong
[08:24] <makuseru> is there a way to convert .flv to .mpg in ubuntu?
[08:25] <smaggard> ah nevermind again lol
[08:27] <No1Viking> I have problems getting my PC, with Kubuntu, connected to my Wireless LAN. I know that it works without problems in Gnome. When trying to set WEP key and Hex it seems it does not save the data and I can't connect. Anywhere else I can put that data so it's permanent, and working, in the system?
[08:27] <cpk1> mencoder is a pretty powerfull transcoder
[08:29] <cpk1> WINDOW
[08:29] <cpk1> scroll
[08:29] <cpk1> ?
[08:30] <cpk1> EXIT
[08:30] <cpk1> off
[08:30] <cpk1> on
[08:32] <plugs> hey all, quick question about usb
[08:32] <plugs> i want to make a ghetto makeshift usb hub
[08:32] <plugs> can i attach two females to one male
[08:32] <plugs> with solder and whatnot?
[08:32] <robotgeek> No1Viking: get knetworkmanager
[08:33] <No1Viking> robotgeek, thanks
[08:33] <deus_> okay, robotgeek, I got it working.  Thanks!
[08:33] <robotgeek> deus_: cool. restart fixen?
[08:33] <deus_> yeah
[08:34] <deus_> btw, sometimes when I shut down I get a blank screen and the computer stalls, and I have to unplug the battery
[08:34] <robotgeek> lol
[08:34] <deus_> do you know whats going on?
[08:34] <robotgeek> file a bug
[08:34] <deus_> mmm...
[08:35] <deus_> good night
[08:35] <robotgeek> deus_: night
[08:47] <cpk1> ugh I cant get X to start =(
[08:48] <bluebunny> Try startx?
[08:50] <cpk1> been doing invoke-rc.d kdm start
[08:50] <cpk1> just gives me a blank screen on tty7
[08:50] <matthew_> If I dd a 20 GB HD to a 200 GB HD, will I still be able to access the extra 180 Gigs?
[08:50] <bluebunny> Try typing startx at the command line.
[08:51] <bluebunny> dd is probably a bad idea.
[08:52] <cpk1> ahh at least i get an error with startx suppose i should have done it the old fashioned way first =P
[08:52] <matthew_> bluebunny, why?
[08:53] <bluebunny> Because you have things like the partition table to consider.
[08:54] <matthew_> bluebunny, ah, ok...that's what I was wondering...
[08:54] <matthew_> I just got a 200 GB hard drive...I want to transfer all the stuff from my 20 Gig to my 200 Gig...programs...etc...is there a special software I should use?
[08:55] <cpk1> cp?
[08:55] <bluebunny> dito
[08:56] <matthew_> cp /* -fr ?
[08:56] <bluebunny> Just make sure that it is partitioned and formatted before copying.
[08:56] <bluebunny> and mounted
[08:56] <matthew_> cp /dev/hda1 /dev/hdb1 ?
[08:57] <bluebunny> Uhh, no.
[08:57] <bluebunny> How many files do you really need copied?
[08:57] <matthew_> bluebunny, the whole system and installed programs...approximately 4.4 Gb's
[08:59] <cpk1> hmm well it didnt like it when i changed my driver from nvidia to nv
[08:59] <smaggard> matthew> u can use dd too
[08:59] <cpk1> which driver is the nonfree one?
[08:59] <matthew_> smaggard, that's what I thought...but bluebunny said no...
[08:59] <matthew_> smaggard, what command could I issue? I'll probably be running off a liveCD to do the copy...
[08:59] <smaggard> why not? that will make it where u can boot it and everything exactly like it is now, and then add another partition
[09:00] <racarr> If you use dd
[09:00] <racarr> and the drive fails
[09:00] <burner> anyone know how to get kaddressbook to read a public contact folder on an exchange server?
[09:00] <racarr> you can't restore it to another drive
[09:00] <smaggard> what? thats bs
[09:00] <cpk1> !nvidia
[09:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:00] <racarr> No it's not
[09:00] <smaggard> dd wont destroy the source drive
[09:00] <racarr> But if the source drive
[09:00] <racarr> DOES break
[09:00] <racarr> you can't put the backup on another drive
[09:00] <smaggard> thats the craziest thing ive ever heard
[09:01] <racarr> smaggard: It's true
[09:01] <matthew_> racarr, yeah, but I could just reinstall the OS and programs...just want to avoid that...lol
[09:01] <smaggard> of course if you have a failed recovery attempt you cant restore from the target drive.. nothing can
[09:01] <racarr> That wasn't the point
[09:01] <smaggard> i have used dd a thousand times to restore ppls computers to exactly the way they were before. OS, boot records, all of it.
[09:01] <racarr> the point was the reason a lot of people consider dd a bad idea for a backup is if you backup with dd to some other hard drive
[09:02] <racarr> then the hard drive BREAKS because of lightning or something, unusable
[09:02] <racarr> and they buy a new hard drive
[09:02] <racarr> it's likely the image won't work
[09:02] <smaggard> hes not backing up, hes trying to copy a drive to another
[09:02] <racarr> because the disk geometry will likely be different
[09:02] <Asos_Illusionist> hiz..
[09:02] <racarr> Ah, sorry, I missed the beginning
[09:02] <brae> icq
[09:02] <racarr> Well, I thought I saw the beginning, and thought it was backups
[09:02] <smaggard> ah yeah i agree on that tho, dd isnt good for trying to make images and then restoring those images to a new hd i woudlnt think
[09:03] <Asos_Illusionist> anyone to help a bit with the fglrx..
[09:03] <bluebunny> Mathew: are you still going to use your old drive for anything, or do you want to switch over completely to the new drive?
[09:03] <matthew_> so...what command _should_ I use to copy all the stuff?
[09:03] <dwidmann> !ati
[09:03] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:03] <smaggard> but hes going from 20gb to 200gb.. just dd everything over to the new drive and make a new partition to get the rest of the drive
[09:03] <matthew_> bluebunny, nah, going to trash the 20...maybe give it away...
[09:03] <Asos_Illusionist> okz.. i'll see if its the same way.. cause it's working but i aint got direct..
[09:03] <smaggard> i think its dd if /dev/hda of /dev/hdb  with hda being source and hdb being target
[09:03] <racarr> matthew: cp -a -x works, dd  works in this case, rsync, tar, bzip, gzip, whatever you want
[09:04] <matthew_> racarr, so, what would the specific command be?
[09:04] <racarr> matthew: If you just wanted to copy all the files and maintain permissions and symbolic links
[09:05] <smaggard> its dd if /dev/hda of /dev/hdb  with hda being source and hdb being target
[09:05] <racarr> matthe_: You could run cp -a -x /path/to/first/folder /path/to/destination/folder/
[09:05] <smaggard> for a 2nd time..
[09:05] <smaggard> lol
[09:05] <bluebunny> Mathew: I would just make the new drive master, do a fresh install of everything on it, then copy the important data files fromm your old drive.
[09:05] <smaggard> i think he wants a drive that will boot and everything
[09:05] <matthew_> yep, I do want a drive that'll boot and everything...
[09:05] <smaggard> i have used dd on a ton of winblows computers too
[09:06] <smaggard> yeah just use dd, it gets EVERYTHING
[09:06] <smaggard> did u see the command i put above?
[09:06] <matthew_> smaggard, but what about the geometry of the drive ?
[09:06] <matthew_> no matter?
[09:06] <smaggard> dont matter...
[09:06] <dwidmann> An argument over which method of copying is best, yup, I am where I think I am
[09:07] <bluebunny> Physical geometry is mostly a fiction nowadays.
[09:07] <smaggard> i have used dd to go from old failing drives to new drives
[09:07] <smaggard> basically, you HAVE to make sure that you get the drive names right
[09:08] <smaggard> if you get them reversed, you will write an empty source drive to your drive full of information and have 2 blank drives lol
[09:08] <matthew_> ok...so...I would do dd if /dev/hda of /dev/hdb ? Seems like it should be different...like dd if / of /mnt/slave/
[09:08] <matthew_> or something
[09:08] <bluebunny> You may as well try dd, but I tend to shy away from it. Just get the if and of right or you may hose your important data.
[09:08] <smaggard> so its safe to actually cd into /dev/hda and make sure stuff is there
[09:09] <dwidmann> matthew_:  you would unmount the drives and do this from a livecd, probably.
[09:09] <smaggard> yeah i know it seems that way, i thought the same the first time i used it
[09:09] <matthew_> dwidmann, well, yeah...
[09:09] <smaggard> yeah i always do mine from a livecd
[09:09] <word> irc chat and games work...pretty much everything requiring the internet works...except for all of my internet browsers
[09:09] <smaggard> matthew let me check that syntax 1 more time
[09:09] <matthew_> ok...so...dd if /dev/hda1 of /dev/hdb ?
[09:09] <matthew_> smaggard, no prob
[09:09] <word> i haven't changed anything..tried resetting the modem and router..no luck :-/
[09:10] <smaggard> matthew> heres a link just so you can be 100% sure
[09:10] <smaggard> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=362506
[09:10] <smaggard> i myself LOVE dd, it always works
[09:11] <bluebunny> Mathew: whatever you do, you should back up your important data to a CD or something just in case something goes wrong.
[09:11] <smaggard> i dont care if its a unix system, linux or windows..
[09:11] <smaggard> yeah while you actually have it and access. u may want to get your home and whatever
[09:12] <matthew_> lol...I may just do a copy from my DSL liveCD...much less complicated...although...I will have to reinstall GrUB
[09:12] <bluebunny> Mathew: remember "if" means "in file" and "of" means "out file."
[09:12] <matthew_> bluebunny, that's what I gathered...
[09:12] <smaggard> lol
[09:13] <smaggard> well, dd will def be the easiest thing for u to do imo
[09:13] <matthew_> ok.... dd if /dev/hda of /dev/hdb          ?
[09:13] <bluebunny> dd is a great program, so long as you don't get your inputs and outputs mixed up.
[09:13] <smaggard> is ur hda ur source?
[09:14] <matthew_> smaggard, yep...
[09:14] <matthew_> hda1
[09:14] <matthew_> but it should be cool, since the other partition is swap
[09:14] <smaggard> u only want partition 1 or the whole drive?
[09:14] <smaggard> if u want the whole drive dont put the 1
[09:15] <smaggard> im sure u knew that..
[09:15] <smaggard> and im also sure u have hdb as ur target..
[09:15] <matthew_> so...ok. One last time.           dd if /dev/hda of /dev/hdb
[09:15] <smaggard> yup that will take the entire source and copy to ur target
[09:16] <brae> poopoo
[09:16] <matthew_> very cool...thanks a lot!
[09:16] <smaggard> yup np
[09:16] <bluebunny> Mathew: I'm assuming /dev/hda is your old drive and /dev/hdb is your new drive.  If this is right, I think you have the right command, but do a backup first just in case.
[09:16] <akrus> hm
[09:16] <akrus> Wine works better than Cedega x_X
[09:16] <smaggard> 80gb drives usually take me about 45mins or so
[09:16] <akrus> even for games~~
[09:18] <smaggard> i remember the first time i did a dd, it was an extremely important deal and i sat there looking at the command on the screen for 20 mins.
[09:18] <matthew_> Ok, I'll do it in the morning when I'm not half asleep, lol
[09:18] <smaggard> lol
[09:18] <smaggard> good idear... nothing worse than a DOH after you hit the enter key
[09:18] <cpk1> anyone able to help me with getting x to start? everything was fine until I switched monitors and now I get "failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module!" I dont seem able to switch to the nv driver because when I do that all i get is static on my screen
[09:19] <smaggard> cpk1 check ur xorg and make sure the right resolution and stuff is entered
[09:19] <cpk1> and i cant use the other monitor because it is 800 miles away =(
[09:19] <smaggard> xorg.conf is located in /etc/X11/
[09:19] <matthew_> cpk1,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:20] <smaggard> or do that...
[09:20] <smaggard> lol
[09:20] <bluebunny> Look up the specs to your monitor and enter them in your xorg.conf file.
[09:20] <cpk1> dpkg-reconfigure was the first thing i did
[09:20] <smaggard> check the "Monitor" section
[09:21] <cpk1> and the ddcprobe seems to have worked since it changed the values from what my old monitor used to be
[09:21] <stdin> I don't use nvidia, but the message "failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module!" usually means that the linux-restricted-modules package isn't installed, or out-of-date
[09:22] <cpk1> i just reinstalled it =(
[09:22] <bluebunny> You can use lynx from the command line to look up your specs if you don't have X.
[09:22] <smaggard> lol
[09:22] <smaggard> lynx is way good
[09:22] <cpk1> and this is some unnamed dell monitor so not sure where to start for horizsync and vertrefresh
[09:22] <stdin> elinks is better :D
[09:23] <smaggard> just take a guess :P
[09:23] <cpk1> i'm on a laptop right now and i dont like lynx anyways =P
[09:23] <bluebunny> I use what I know.
[09:24] <dwidmann> cpk1: try the dell website, might be able to find the information there
[09:24] <smaggard> dell is crap
[09:24] <smaggard> lol jk
[09:24] <smaggard> they might.. iunno
[09:24] <stdin> try looking on the back of the monitor for a model number
[09:25] <cpk1> no discernable model number
[09:25] <smaggard> yeah do that
[09:25] <bluebunny> Yeah, I don't much care for Dell either, but I do have a Dell laptop.  I rarely use it anymore.
[09:25] <smaggard> write one on the back then
[09:25] <bluebunny> Lol.
[09:26] <smaggard> dell is too proprietary imo
[09:27] <smaggard> others might b too... but iunno just not a dell fan
[09:28] <smaggard> i got an hp laptop
[09:28] <smaggard> :D
[09:30] <cpk1> is there a way to force x to use vesa?
[09:30] <smaggard> of course
[09:30] <smaggard> change the xorg.conf to use driver vesa instead of nv
[09:31] <smaggard> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:31] <cpk1> well at least vesa works
[09:31] <smaggard> heh there ya go
[09:31] <smaggard> i use ati driver on the lappy
[09:31] <smaggard> nvidia on the desktops...
[09:32] <bluebunny> Does kubuntu have any way to automatically configure X from the command line?
[09:32] <smaggard> never really used the  vesa driver
[09:32] <cpk1> now i need to figure out why the nvidia driver isnt working...
[09:32] <smaggard> yeah
[09:33] <smaggard> u can like re-run the xorg setup that asks u all those questions
[09:33] <cpk1> i did that twice =(
[09:34] <smaggard> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:34] <smaggard> do yall wanna see my myspace page?!
[09:36] <smaggard> mmk im going to sleep
[09:36] <smaggard> lol
[09:36] <smaggard> cyas
[09:37] <flaccid> hahah
[09:37] <smaggard> what so funnay
[09:37] <flaccid> myspace
[09:37] <smaggard> u dont have a myspace?
[09:37] <smaggard> if u dont ur so not cool
[09:40] <bluebunny> Damn, I'm a dork.
[09:41] <hagabaka> is there a directory like /etc/profile.d in slackware, where applications could place their environment setup scripts?
[09:42] <bluebunny> Don't know.  This is the Kubuntu channel.
[09:42] <hagabaka> so is all environment setup done in /etc/profile?
[09:43] <hagabaka> which only sets PS1 for me...
[09:47] <bluebunny> There's /etc/init.d
[09:48] <bluebunny> There are all kinds of startup scripts there.
[09:49] <bluebunny> At least that's what I think they are.
[09:49] <stdin> or /etc/default/
[09:49] <stdin> for variables of startup scripts
[09:49] <bluebunny> It's been a while since I did anything like that.
[09:49] <eilker> !kernel
[09:49] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:51] <bluebunny> There's also /etc/skel, which allows you to put in default files for new users.
[09:52] <eilker> !SMP
[09:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about SMP - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:52] <eilker> !smp
[09:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:52] <bluebunny> There's really a lot that goes into the environment.
[09:53] <ikhouvanje> hello everyone
[09:53] <bluebunny> Hello.
[09:53] <ikhouvanje> ubuntustuff is really fantastico
[09:53] <ikhouvanje> wow
[09:54] <ikhouvanje> does someone know why when you customize something with gnome than it gives less problems than with kde?
[09:54] <blackflag> I have the new effect that when I move my mouse to the sites of the desk the desk are switching.
[09:54] <blackflag> taht is totaly nervy
[09:54] <bluebunny> Hmm... What us ubuntustuff?  Do you just mean anything having to do with ubuntu?
[09:54] <ikhouvanje> yes of course
[09:54] <blackflag> can someone help me to turn this effect off
[09:55] <bluebunny> I thought it might be a special package or something.
[09:55] <blackflag> I reconfigured xserver but this didnt solve the problem
[09:55] <ikhouvanje> is windows losing users?
[09:55] <stdin> blackflag: I get that, but with beryl
[09:56] <bluebunny> Blackflag: I'm not clear on what you're saying.
[09:56] <blackflag> the desktops are switching moving mouse to right  or left site
[09:57] <blackflag> so its going to second desktop
[09:58] <stdin> blackflag: you sure you're not running beryl or compiz?
[10:00] <bluebunny> I've never encountered anything like that before.
[10:00] <blackflag> yes, I didnt install that
[10:00] <stdin> I've never seen that before (outside of beryl)
[10:01] <bluebunny> Except in the olden days when I ran fvwm and the desktop was bigger that the phyiscal screen.  Back then, moving the mouse to the side would scroll to a different part of the desktop.
[10:02] <bluebunny> I believe I was using Slackware ate the time.
[10:03] <blackflag> it was suddenly there and I dont know what I have done what cause this error
[10:04] <bluebunny> It's probably not an error.  I imagine it's supposed to do that given certain settings.
[10:05] <blackflag> yes, that is what I thought too, but trying new desktop seetings reconfigure X didnt solve it
[10:05] <bluebunny> Can you right click on the desktop and pick "configure desktop?"
[10:05] <blackflag> maybe somone of you know what setting and where it is?
[10:06] <blackflag> okay, now?
[10:08] <bluebunny> Oh, yes, just right click on the destop, say configure desktop, click on "multiple desktops" and uncheck the box that says "mouse wheel over desktop background switches desktops".
[10:09] <bluebunny> Don't know how your settings would have been switched accidentally.
[10:09] <k|away> i have a cd of edgy...... trying to install it on a partition on one drive. which was partitioned by gpart. it wont get past the gpart part because it says something about not have a root partition. I saw some info earlier today on a possible prob with the gpart. I dont know where that was and if it referred to what I am trying to do. Any help would be appreciated
[10:10] <bluebunny> Klaway: you could always partition using a third party "rescue CD" first.
[10:10] <blackflag> yes, I found this  and  it is unchecked, this dont solve it!
[10:11] <kev1n> thanks bluebunny
[10:11] <bluebunny> No prob.
[10:13] <blackflag> where can I set this setting manually? maybe here is the prob that this setting dont take effect checking or unchecking it?
[10:13] <bluebunny> Blackflag: did you try restarting KDE after unchecking the box?
[10:14] <blackflag> the box was unchecked! so I tried checking and unchecking with restartingX
[10:14] <notbbt> having an issue with djbdns repo, the required user accounts were not created, is there something i need to run ?
[10:15] <blackflag> and it dont take effect.
[10:18] <bluebunny> Blackflag: I just re-read what you said your problem was.  Apparently, I misunderstood.  The check box I meantioned only configures switching desktops using the scrool wheel on the mouse.
[10:18] <bluebunny> scroll wheel.
[10:21] <bluebunny> Blackflag, are you using dapper or edgy or what?
[10:26] <B-Minus> hello
[10:26] <B-Minus> how can i set my spellchecker to dutch in openoffice
[10:26] <bluebunny> Hello.
[10:26] <B-Minus> i cant make it to happen
[10:27] <bluebunny> Not a clue.
[10:27] <flaccid> B-Minus: #openoffice.org ?
[10:29] <bluebunny> Yeah, that would be a better place to ask.
[10:30] <nando> hi
[10:30] <bluebunny> Hello.
[10:30] <bluebunny> I can't believe there are still people up this late.
[10:31] <bluebunny> Of course, I'm up this late, but I'm not normal.
[10:31] <flaccid> its 8:30pm here
[10:31] <bluebunny> Well, it's 1:31 A.M. here.
[10:31] <nando> i'm newbe in linux/kubuntu & i'm only viewing the system, it nice :D
[10:31] <B-Minus> tnx
[10:33] <bluebunny> Actually, I should be getting to bed.
[10:33] <bluebunny> I'll probably pop in some other time.  Bye all.
[10:35] <richardc> I have an AMD Athlon 64 3800+ processor and in previous versions of kubuntu i used the linux-image-k7 kernel.  now, in 6.10, it says the package has been made obsolete by linux-image-generic.  can someone explain?
[10:37] <flaccid> !java
[10:37] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[10:38] <Captain_Haddock> !opera
[10:38] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[10:39] <Kev1n> !gtpart
[10:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gtpart - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:39] <flaccid> !gtparted
[10:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gtparted - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:40] <stdin> !gparted
[10:40] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[10:40] <Captain_Haddock> !gparted
[10:40] <flaccid> but
[10:40] <flaccid> !qtparted
[10:40] <ubotu> qtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu11 (edgy), package size 202 kB, installed size 716 kB
[10:40] <Captain_Haddock> heh
[10:40] <flaccid> is better
[10:40] <flaccid> :)
[10:41] <Captain_Haddock> Add/Remove programs keeps crashing on me :/
[10:42] <stdin> use synaptic
[10:42] <stdin> or cli :)
[10:42] <Captain_Haddock> :P
[10:42] <flaccid> install windows
[10:43] <stdin> then everything will crash on you
[10:43] <flaccid> thats alright
[10:43] <exs> Hi, I'm getting "cannot talk to klauncher" ... I am trying to use kopete / Ktorrent
[10:46] <Captain_Haddock> !apt-get
[10:46] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[10:49] <Captain_Haddock> what am I doing wrong?
[10:52] <Captain_Haddock> !skype
[10:52] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[10:52] <flaccid> Captain_Haddock: apt source is deb http://deb.opera.com/opera etch non-free
[10:53] <stdin> Captain_Haddock: or "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy-commercial main"
[10:59] <Captain_Haddock> stdin: added edgy-commercial.. but still don't see opera.
[10:59] <Captain_Haddock> Perhaps it's not "main" ?
[11:00] <stdin> it only has a 'main' repository
[11:00] <Captain_Haddock> ah, right. Cheers :)
[11:01] <stdin> Captain_Haddock: try replacing 'edgy-commercial' with 'dapper-commercial', it's the same version anyway
[11:02] <flaccid> did you update the list
[11:03] <Captain_Haddock> stdin: no luck
[11:03] <Captain_Haddock> flaccid: yes
[11:04] <Captain_Haddock> First tried in adept
[11:04] <Captain_Haddock> then in apt
[11:04] <Captain_Haddock> post "fetch updates" and "apt-get update" respectively.
[11:05] <Captain_Haddock> googling came up with:
[11:05] <Captain_Haddock> sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt
[11:05] <Captain_Haddock> wget http://ftp.wayne.edu/opera/linux/902/final/en/i386/shared/opera_9.02-20060919.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb
[11:05] <Captain_Haddock> sudo dpkg -i opera_9.02-20060919.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb
[11:05] <Captain_Haddock> That look ok?
[11:06] <Captain_Haddock> This is an AMD-64 box (btw).. Will that be fine?
[11:06] <stdin> ahh, no it won't then :p
[11:06] <stdin> that's a i386 package
[11:07] <Captain_Haddock> mine would be labelled amd-64?
[11:07] <Captain_Haddock> ah, dang. I have to run. I will be back later.
[11:08] <Captain_Haddock> Thanks stdin, flaccid et al :)
[11:08] <stdin> ok, I'll find a link for you when you get back :)
[11:20] <OkinawaInstructo> i am trying to set up an epson cx500 so i can scan.. printing is fine just cant get it to scan (xsane) anyone have suggestions?
[11:26] <codemonkey2> hey just wonderin if anyone know why i get this error in kde startup .. The process for the system protocol died unexpectedly.
[11:26] <codemonkey2> its anooying me, tried googling it but to no avail.
[11:28] <richardc> hey
[11:28] <richardc> i need help setting up compiz on kubuntu 6.10
[11:31] <stdin> what's the problem richardc ?
[11:31] <richardc> stdin: i think i found my solution
[11:31] <richardc> im just wanting to install it on 6.10
[11:32] <richardc> couldnt figure out how
[11:32] <stdin> you know, beryl is much easier to install on kubuntu
[11:33] <richardc> as far as performance, which is recommended: aiglx or xgl and compiz or beryl
[11:34] <dwidmann> Captain_Haddock: dpkg --install --force-architecture packagename_version_i386.deb should work okay
[11:34] <stdin> depends on your hardware, aiglx is better than xgl and compiz is more for gnome
[11:35] <stdin> aiglx needs DRI so you need hardware to support that
[11:36] <richardc> i have an nvidia 6800gt
[11:36] <richardc> so should i use aiglx or xgl
[11:37] <stdin> well, xiglx will only work with the beta nvidia driver from the nvidia website
[11:37] <stdin> s/xiglx/aiglx/
[11:37] <richardc> what version is that?
[11:39] <richardc> stdin: better question: 1.0-9742 is the latest beta.  how can i check to see which version of the driver i have installed
[11:39] <stdin> richardc: take a look at this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLX
[11:39] <richardc> ive been reading over that
[11:39] <stdin> how did you install the driver?
[11:39] <richardc> i used a script called envy
[11:39] <richardc> worked very well
[11:40] <richardc> the script's site tells me which version...
[11:41] <Xubuntian> i have to download some packages on my laptop (with ADSL) to install them on my daddy's one that has only 56k-
[11:41] <Xubuntian>  is there a way to download them in an apt-get fashion but simply save them somewhere?
[11:43] <stdin> Xubuntian: you should just be able to copy them to /var/cache/apt/archives/
[11:44] <stdin> richardc: you can get the beta driver from: http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_downloads_linux_display_x86_1.0-9742.html
[11:44] <Xubuntian> i tried apt-get -d PACKAGE but didn't work :(
[11:44] <Xubuntian> so i just pressed ctrl-c when synaptic finished downloading
[11:44] <Xubuntian> :S
[11:45] <stdin> Xubuntian: ahh, I get ya :p put --download-only after apt-get, so like "sudo apt-get --download-only install package"
[11:45] <genii> stdin :) hiyas
[11:45] <stdin> hi genii
[11:46] <stdin> I'm being brave and updating feisty :p
[11:46] <richardc> stdin: appreciate it.  i just need to find a way to see which version is already installed
[11:46] <genii> stdin Heh!
[11:46] <genii> !apt-cache
[11:46] <stdin> OO.o is broke tho :p
[11:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-cache - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:47] <stdin> richardc: where did you get the script from?
[11:47] <genii> stdin That sucks, I use it a lot...sticking with Edgy for now
[11:48] <richardc> http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[11:48] <stdin> genii: it's just a dependency thing, not all the packages have been uploaded yet
[11:48] <stdin> so I upgraded everything but OO.o
[11:48] <richardc> i found the script from an HOWTO article on ubuntuforums.org
[11:48] <richardc> it was posted by tseliot
[11:48] <richardc> created by his as well
[11:49] <stdin> genii: but I do get to play wit kernel 2.6.20-2-generic :D
[11:50] <genii> stdin Any noticeable performance changes?
[11:50] <stdin> genii: yeah, it's even faster :P
[11:50] <genii> stid Extremely cool...
[11:50] <genii> I gotta go but will see you all in a couple days
[11:51] <genii> stdin Have fun :)
[11:51] <stdin> have a good christmas genii :)
[11:52] <stdin> richardc: that script downloads the latest STABLE driver, not the beta
[11:53] <sk> hi
[11:53] <richardc> alright
[11:53] <sk> i have a question
[11:53] <richardc> so xgl it is
[11:53] <sk> i installed kubuntu
[11:53] <sk> but its so slow
[11:53] <cox377> is there a command to like clean out all the old temp files etc?
[11:53] <richardc> xgl/beryl?
[11:53] <sk> on my computer
[11:53] <sk> i have an amd 1800+
[11:53] <cox377> sk: whats the spec
[11:53] <sk> and a ati x800
[11:53] <stdin> richardc: unless you want to install the beta version, XGL for now
[11:53] <Lathiat> cox377: reboot ;)
[11:53] <Lathiat> cox377: will kill any temp files
[11:53] <Lathiat> i.e. you shouldnt have to worry
[11:53] <sk> i was wondering is it my system
[11:53] <sk> i mean its not that slow
[11:53] <sk> sure old but fast enought
[11:53] <Lathiat> apt-get clean # may also be usefull but IIRC ubuntu does that automagically now
[11:54] <sk> and its really slow
[11:54] <cox377> Lathiat: i'm just tyring to clean the system because i dont really have anything on there media wise and i'm using 10gig
[11:54] <sk> i can feel the windows poping up and stuff
[11:54] <cox377> sk: as in the time it takes to load things
[11:54] <cox377> sk: ?
[11:55] <sk> hmm which app for example?
[11:55] <cox377> well does it just feel sluggish?
[11:55] <sk> hmm lets say firefox takes 5 seconds to come up
[11:55] <cox377> i'm running 2300+XP and i find the same sorta thing
[11:56] <cox377> 512ram
[11:56] <stdin> firefox is just slow anyway :p
[11:56] <almien_l> what might be the cause if a wifi card in linux can't find any networks, yet says "signal strength excellent" in kwifimanager
[11:56] <sk> yeah i have 512 too
[11:56] <Lathiat> cox377: hrm, thats a fair bit, "du -sh ~" ?
[11:56] <sk> but i mean i always thought linx is that cute and doesnt need so much ram
[11:56] <sk> is it the ram
[11:56] <Lathiat> gnome eats a bti of ram
[11:56] <Lathiat> 256 works, 512 is ok 1G is better
[11:57] <sk> hmm well my windows was by far 10 times faster
[11:57] <Lathiat> define faster
[11:57] <cox377> Lathiat: its showing 700M
[11:57] <sk> not that sluggish, applications process faster
[11:57] <sk> i couldnt see the windows build up
[11:57] <Lathiat> "windows build up"?
[11:58] <richardc> stdin: which repositories do you recommend enabling in adept?
[11:58] <sk> yeah its still fast but u can watch some windows how they show up
[11:58] <Lathiat> my pc is using 4G outside of /home
[11:58] <sk> maybe its because of my ati gfx card
[11:58] <Lathiat> sk: hrm, could be a dodgy graphics driver
[11:58] <Lathiat> what video card?
[11:58] <sk> ati
[11:58] <sk> x800
[11:58] <stdin> richardc: for beryl, or what?
[11:58] <Lathiat> which driver?
[11:58] <sk> how can i get that info
[11:59] <cox377> sk:what i find strange, on my xp2300 it seems kinda sluggish
[11:59] <Lathiat> grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:59] <sk> cox377: i think its just the gfx driver
[11:59] <Lathiat> should say "ati" "fglrx" "radeon" or some such
[11:59] <Lathiat> (along with kbd/mouse/wacoms you cahn ignore)
[11:59] <richardc> stdin: what i really am asking is if it is a good idea to enable universe and backports
[12:00] <cox377> sk: but with my XP2500 it seems really nippy
[12:00] <richardc> just in general
[12:00] <sk> Lathiat:  it says ati proprietary deriver
[12:00] <sk> ati
[12:00] <sk> fglrx
[12:00] <sk> well next year i buy a macbook pro
[12:01] <sk> and i want to install linux there as well
[12:01] <sk> for java development
[12:01] <stdin> richardc: I always enable universe, multiverse and normally backports (tho I haven't this time because I'm on feisty and there aren't any), but I'd say go ahead and enable them
[12:01] <richardc> alright
[12:01] <sk> well i will try to fix the ati driver somehow
[12:01] <sk> maybe its that
[12:02] <sk> i guess its that and the ram
[12:02] <sk> well i dont like microsoft, but i was surprised how slow linux was
[12:03] <sk> especially when i have started eclipse
[12:03] <cox377> Sk: it might be worth trying a few other distrubutions
[12:03] <sk> cox yes
[12:04] <sk> is gnome faster then kubuntu?
[12:04] <john1987> try xubuntu
[12:06] <stdin> sk: no
[12:06] <sk> stdin: i wonder that its slow on my computer
[12:07] <sk> an amd 1800+ shouldnt be a low end machine
[12:07] <sk> i guess its just the ati driver
[12:08] <stdin> it could be, if you see the windows being repainted
[12:08] <sk> its not that slow but even i can see it sometimes
[12:09] <sk> btw amarok cant play my mp3
[12:09] <sk> do i have to install some additional codec lib?
[12:09] <sk> to play mp3
[12:09] <john1987> libxine-extracodecs
[12:09] <stdin> ^^yep
[12:09] <stdin> !libxine-extracodecs
[12:10] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB
[12:10] <richardc> stdin: thanks for your help
[12:10] <stdin> in multiverse
[12:10] <stdin> richardc: np :D
[12:10] <sk> btw whats the bad on suse
[12:11] <sk> does it suck?
[12:11] <sk> or is it for laptops a good choice
[12:11] <sk> because of the driver support
[12:12] <stdin> haven't used suse in years, so I don't know
[12:12] <sk> so kubuntu might be a good decision too
[12:12] <sk> i have seen some youtube videos of xgl
[12:12] <sk> looks cool
[12:12] <sk> i would like to install that
[12:12] <sk> is it hard?
[12:13] <stdin> there is a help page here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl
[12:16] <sk> it doesnt find thelibxine extracodecs
[12:16] <sk> do i have to add another verse
[12:16] <sk> ?
[12:16] <sk> btw hows the security risk in just adding foreign packagages and libs
[12:16] <stdin> yeah, it's in multiverse
[12:16] <sk> couldnt it be a trojan too
[12:16] <sk> if i dont know it?
[12:16] <sk> or is there a secure environment
[12:17] <sk> to avoid such things
[12:17] <matthew_> sk, trojans are almost non-existent for linux
[12:17] <stdin> sk: that's why it's best to stick to the official repos, and ones on the help.ubuntu.com site
[12:17] <sk> ok so the official ones are completely ok
[12:17] <sk> i mean i was wondering
[12:17] <matthew_> sk, yesssir
[12:17] <sk> because ones just installs any packages
[12:18] <sk> thought thats a risk
[12:18] <sk> isnt it
[12:18] <stdin> anything from ubuntu.com is safe as far as security goes
[12:19] <vado> Bonjour
[12:19] <stdin> !fr | vado
[12:19] <ubotu> vado: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:19] <vado> !fr yourself stdin
[12:19] <stdin> heh
[12:21] <cox377> sk: just fired up KANOTIX on live cd and it feels faster even on live cd
[12:22] <sk> i have to reboot
[12:22] <sk> beb
[12:22] <sk> brb
[12:24] <Danker> Hi
[12:24] <Danker> How can i close certain connection which is connected to my port?
[12:30] <cox377> SK: seriously, give KANOTIX a go, been playing with it for about 10 minute.. so weird how fast it seems
[12:30] <cox377> but its on a faster machine but not massively faster
[12:30] <sk> well yes
[12:31] <sk> kubuntu in this speed for java development with eclipse would be useless
[12:32] <YoungLord> hello
[12:32] <sk> on this computer at last
[12:32] <sk> well i also exprienced that kubuntu crashed 2 times
[12:32] <sk> without any reason
[12:32] <YoungLord> i need some help
[12:33] <YoungLord> i have some problems with ndiswrapper
[12:33] <cox377> sk: yeh that does sound strange, maybe there is some issues there
[12:33] <cox377> YoungLord: whats your prob?
[12:33] <sk> well cox i installed it long time ago
[12:33] <sk> before
[12:33] <sk> it was same speed
[12:33] <sk> i guess many ppl i know which use linux
[12:34] <sk> use a very minimized desktop environment
[12:34] <sk> maybe because of the speed
[12:34] <sk> minimalized ones
[12:34] <sk> like ice or there are others out there
[12:34] <Seveas> imbrandon, poke
[12:34] <stdin> xfce :P
[12:34] <sk> or they have a strong machine
[12:34] <sk> yeah xfce
[12:34] <sk> or they have a strong machine
[12:35] <stdin> or my favorite, startx :p
[12:35] <Seveas> xfce is huge compared to wmii or twm :)
[12:35] <sk> i think ppl in our company developing on linux do have such a strong machine
[12:35] <sk> i know one guy is using fedora
[12:35] <sk> the red head distro
[12:36] <tsdgeos> red hat
[12:36] <sk> but i dont remember that the suse was so slow
[12:37] <indiane> All greetings, I want will get acquainted to very full girl
[12:37] <sk> i have been testing it on an old notebook
[12:37] <sk> a long while ago
[12:37] <sk> well on my company laptop i have a ubuntu sticker on it :)
[12:37] <Bubba_Gump> which, in all our views, seems to have the features for a good distro?
[12:37] <sk> on the outside and im running windows in the inside haha :D
[12:38] <sk> but just because i need some software
[12:38] <sk> to do my job
[12:38] <sk> otherwise i would switch too
[12:38] <Bubba_Gump> kubuntu for me shows some qualities for ease
[12:38] <Bubba_Gump> yet i've heard good things mentioned for other distros too
[12:39] <sk> Bubba_Gump: which ones
[12:39] <Bubba_Gump> such as freebsd, kanotix and gentoo
[12:39] <Bubba_Gump> i have a manky integrated graphics card
[12:39] <Bubba_Gump> which runs from the ram
[12:40] <Bubba_Gump> and kubuntu has little support, for this
[12:40] <Bubba_Gump> one of these beastly SiS integrated jobbys
[12:40] <sk> intel?
[12:40] <Bubba_Gump> SiS
[12:40] <sk> i have heard intel 950 gma has a very good driver support
[12:40] <sk> uh dont know that one
[12:41] <Bubba_Gump> heh, my point :)
[12:41] <Bubba_Gump> i may actually upgrade by notebook
[12:41] <Bubba_Gump> to something, easier :)
[12:41] <sk> but gentoo is hard to install isnt it
[12:42] <Bubba_Gump> very much so
[12:42] <Bubba_Gump> but it has the support
[12:42] <sk> but i guess it doesnt make sense
[12:42] <sk> when you have to install every driver
[12:42] <sk> by yourself
[12:42] <sk> that sucks
[12:42] <Bubba_Gump> yeah, that does suck
[12:43] <Bubba_Gump> an installer would come very much in handy
[12:43] <Bubba_Gump> which kubuntu does come with
[12:43] <Bubba_Gump> and can make it attractive
[12:45] <elin> how can i get my drivers on the desktop to show in kubuntu? (cdrom,harddriver etc).
[12:45] <Bubba_Gump> which file typesdo they have?
[12:45] <elin> i have no idea?
[12:46] <Bubba_Gump> are you within kde?
[12:46] <elin> yes
[12:46] <Bubba_Gump> right click and select properties
[12:46] <Bubba_Gump> on one of the driver files
[12:46] <elin> i just started to use kde i am used to xp
[12:46] <Bubba_Gump> heh
[12:46] <Bubba_Gump> i was too :)
[12:46] <elin> yea:)
[12:47] <elin> uhm, but the thing is i cant see my drivers on the desktop
[12:47] <elin> and i want them to show there..
[12:47] <sk> yeah me too
[12:47] <Bubba_Gump> do you have the drivers someplace on your computer
[12:47] <matthew_> elin, do you mean your drives?
[12:47] <sk> but then it asked for a new serial
[12:47] <elin> matthew yeees
[12:47] <sk> and i have had it in the office and told myself now its enought
[12:47] <sk> even i dont like the policy of ms
[12:47] <matthew_> elin, ok, h/o...lemme look around.
[12:47] <sk> all this drm shit
[12:48] <sk> and stuff
[12:48] <elin> thanks , matthew
[12:48] <Bubba_Gump> vista, i heard from a trusted friend, really sucks
[12:48] <elin> bubba_gump, i dont know where to look :D
[12:48] <Bubba_Gump> heh :)
[12:49] <Bubba_Gump> see down in the bottom left
[12:49] <Bubba_Gump> an icon shaped like a computer?
[12:49] <matthew_> elin, ok, go to the kmenu->system settings->Desktop->Behavior->Device Icons
[12:49] <elin> nope, i dont have that one.. bubba_gump :S   :D
[12:49] <Bubba_Gump> heh
[12:49] <elin> matthew okej letme check , thanks :)
[12:49] <Bubba_Gump> the one next to the one with the big 'K'
[12:50] <matthew_> elin, once you get there...be sure to check the box next to Mounted Hard Disk Volume...that will allow you to see your hard drives on the desktop
[12:50] <Bubba_Gump> do what matthew_ says, heh :)
[12:50] <Bubba_Gump> a much quicker way :)
[12:50] <robert1> merry christmas :)
[12:51] <elin> matthew, i am stuck on behavior, coz i cant see device icons anywhere :S
[12:51] <elin> its just general and file icons..
[12:51] <matthew_> elin, it's a tab in the window...hmmm....
[12:51] <robert1> anybody here who can help me with alsa and oss emulation?
[12:51] <elin> i can see two tabs, general and file icons
[12:51] <matthew_> elin, hmmm, are you using dapper or edgy?
[12:52] <elin> i am using a new one :D
[12:52] <matthew_> elin, you don't know which version you're using?
[12:52] <elin> but dont know what type is there anywhere to see?
[12:52] <slow-motion> hallo
[12:52] <sk> Bubba_Gump: why does it suck
[12:52] <arcade> Hmf.  6.06 refuses to find my sata-disk, 6.10 refuses to use my ATI card. :p  (6.06 doesn't install, 6.10 doesn't work with X(
[12:53] <sk> Bubba_Gump:  ppl always do think it sucks when there is a change or something new
[12:53] <matthew_> elin, lemme check
[12:53] <elin> ok, thanks
[12:53] <sk> so i rather believe a good review :)
[12:54] <sk> i also changed to linux coz its free and if i should start someday my own biz i want to make use from all of this benefits
[12:54] <sk> plus i love the osource thought
[12:54] <sk> but xp is a stable good os as far as i can judge it
[12:55] <sk> but i dont appreciate ms a lot
[12:55] <Bubba_Gump> heh sk, changes happen with me all the time
[12:55] <sk> beside gates does this charity organisation
[12:55] <Bubba_Gump> vista sucks because of the money involved to get it
[12:55] <sk> which is a good thing
[12:55] <Bubba_Gump> to mantain it
[12:55] <sk> if he just doesnt it to save taxes
[12:55] <Bubba_Gump> and to run it :)
[12:56] <sk> well sure its made for future hardware
[12:56] <sk> but as far as i have heard you can turn off airo and stuff
[12:56] <sk> and its faster then
[12:56] <sk> well ppl will use it because of direct x 10
[12:56] <sk> the gamers
[12:57] <Bubba_Gump> see i am not a gamer
[12:57] <sk> i dont know about others but a developer doesnt need that much from a os
[12:57] <sk> i think
[12:57] <Bubba_Gump> and for that reason vista will only stumble for me
[12:57] <elin> is it anyway to get rid of ubuntu,coz i am just using kubuntu now, but i installed my computer with ubuntu? ehh.. anyone understand what i am trying to say? :D
[12:57] <matthew_> elin, ok, type the following into the konsole:     lsb_release -a
[12:57] <Bubba_Gump> being flashy can seem cool for a while
[12:57] <elin> okay ill do that matthew
[12:57] <Bubba_Gump> i like a rolid solid, stable os
[12:58] <sk> Bubba_Gump: i like the flashy stuff :)
[12:58] <elin> No LSB modules are available.
[12:58] <elin> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[12:58] <elin> Description:    Ubuntu 6.10
[12:58] <elin> Release:        6.10
[12:58] <elin> Codename:       edgy
[12:58] <Bubba_Gump> cool :)
[12:58] <matthew_> elin, ubuntu and kubuntu and xubuntu and edubuntu are all the same...just different desktop managers and default packages installed...
[12:58] <Bubba_Gump> i like that
[12:58] <elin> matthew, oh okay
[12:58] <matthew_> elin, if you've going to paste lotsa stuff...please use pastebin
[12:58] <Bubba_Gump> we all go to the same restaurant and eat different meals
[12:58] <Bubba_Gump> same with the OS's :)
[12:58] <matthew_> !pastebin | elin
[12:58] <ubotu> elin: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:58] <elin> pastebin?
[12:59] <matthew_> ^^^^^
[12:59] <elin> oh..okay..
[12:59] <elin> :D
[12:59] <elin> yea i see
[12:59] <matthew_> elin, let me google around, ok?
[12:59] <elin> ok :)
[01:00] <elin> ehum.. i dont think i understand that pastebin thingy :D *supprise* doh! :D
[01:01] <elin> download as text it says
[01:01] <elin> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38639/
[01:02] <matthew_> elin, it's really simple. You just paste what you want me to see in the large box, put your name in the small box, and then click paste. Then, you give me the address (url) of the page so that I can see it.
[01:02] <elin> is this how u make others too see?
[01:02] <matthew_> yes
[01:02] <elin> oh
[01:02] <elin> :)
[01:02] <elin> thanks
[01:03] <matthew_> elin...ok, try this....sudo kcontrol
[01:04] <elin> damnit , the door bell is ringing
[01:04] <elin> brb
[01:04] <matthew_> k
[01:05] <sk> ok
[01:06] <sk> its the ati driver support
[01:06] <sk> the opengl driver are that slow
[01:06] <sk> unbeliveable
[01:06] <grurf> hello
[01:07] <grurf> I'm currently working on a laptop with kubuntu installed, and I must say that I'm quite happy with the way it works
[01:07] <grurf> However, when I close the screen, kubuntu automatically logs out the user, which is very, very annoying, as this causes me to lose all unsaved data
[01:07] <elin> uhm, i am back.. sorry
[01:08] <grurf> Is there any way to prevent it from logging out when I close the screen?
[01:08] <matthew_> elin, np
[01:08] <matthew_> I'm still here...lol
[01:08] <elin> ill try this sudo kcontrol thing now
[01:08] <elin> thanks , thats good
[01:08] <elin> :)
[01:08] <matthew_> ok, now go to desktop, etc...
[01:08] <elin> oh, so its in there? i dont think i was there before
[01:08] <elin> somethng just popped up here now :D
[01:09] <elin> kde control center
[01:09] <matthew_> elin, desktop->behavior->etc....
[01:09] <elin> key thanks , hold on
[01:09] <elin> i got error messages in the konsol
[01:09] <elin> :S
[01:10] <MeMarc> Hello I still got some problems making me familiar with the apt-installer/packet-managing system of (K)ubuntu.
[01:10] <matthew_> that's ok...it's just your xorg...
[01:10] <elin> uhm, same things there as before matthew
[01:10] <matthew_> no device icons tab?
[01:10] <elin> no :(
[01:10] <elin> strange..
[01:10] <matthew_> bummer....I'm out of ideas...sorry....
[01:11] <elin> well thanks anyways it was nice of you to try helping a girl out :P
[01:11] <MeMarc> I cant figure out what does it mean when a package is masked "grey" in apt-installer... so I am not able to select it to install?! (e.g. WINE)... does anyone has an idea to solve that, or what that could be?!
[01:11] <matthew_> elin, whoa?!?! a girl?!?! lol
[01:11] <matthew_> just kidding
[01:12] <elin> haha
[01:12] <elin> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38640/
[01:12] <elin> look at this error message
[01:12] <elin> whats up with that?
[01:13] <elin> any ideas?
[01:13] <matthew_> elin, yep, working on it...
[01:13] <elin> thanks
[01:14] <ubuntu> hello
[01:14] <matthew_> elin, ok, that's a problem with your computer expecting that you've got a wacom tablet attached to your computer and your total lack of one...
[01:14] <matthew_> elin, you need to do this:  sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:14] <elin> okay.. let me try
[01:15] <matthew_> elin, that'll open up a window where you can edit your xorg.conf...you just need to comment out some lines concerning the wacom tablet
[01:15] <elin> okay , done that
[01:15] <MeMarc> Who can tell me whats the meaning of "grey masked" packages in apt-installer and how could I still select them to install?! (e.g. WINE)?
[01:15] <elin> what is "the wacom tablet"?
[01:16] <matthew_> elin, to comment stuff out, you put a # at the beginning of the line. comment out the 3 device sections (should be tablet, cursor, and something else) and then comment out the "Send Core Events" lines further down.
[01:17] <matthew_> A wacom tablet is a tablet that artists use to draw images in a photo editor in a natural way.
[01:17] <elin> i searched for wacom , and i got "driver "wacom" " .. ?
[01:17] <elin> but i dont have any wacom tablet :S
[01:18] <matthew_> elin, you did a search or did you actually look for it?
[01:18] <elin> like i said i searched for it
[01:18] <elin> but ill try to look for it now
[01:18] <matthew_> elin, it'll be under the sections for keyboard and mouse
[01:18] <elin> ok
[01:19] <Sanni> can someone tell me If I need to install drivers for my graphics card on Kubuntu to play my favourite game world of warcraft_
[01:19] <matthew_> elin, ok, comment out from Section "InputDevice" all the way down to the EndSection...do this three times...
[01:20] <elin> do u mean that i should type # before "section "inputdevice" ??
[01:20] <matthew_> elin, yep
[01:21] <elin> ok
[01:21] <elin> do i amek a space?
[01:21] <matthew_> elin, and for each line all the way down to EndSEction
[01:21] <elin> or everything together
[01:21] <elin> make
[01:21] <matthew_> elin, you don't need to make a space, everything after the # is ignored
[01:21] <elin> oh
[01:22] <elin> everyline ?=
[01:22] <matthew_> elin, also, comment out the last three lines under Section "ServerLayout"
[01:22] <matthew_> elin, lemme pastebin mine...h/o
[01:22] <elin> okay
[01:22] <elin> coz i dont understand so much :)
[01:23] <matthew_> elin, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38642/
[01:23] <elin> how come i have this errors? i havent done nothing :S
[01:23] <elin> okay, let me see
[01:24] <matthew_> elin, it's the default to activate drivers for the wacom tablet...I really don't know why
[01:24] <elin> should i copy and past all this in my xorg.conf
[01:24] <matthew_> elin, NO
[01:24] <elin> so it will be a new one ?
[01:24] <elin> ehh..
[01:24] <elin> okay
[01:25] <matthew_> elin, that's just an example to show you what should be commented out.
[01:25] <elin> oh
[01:25] <elin> i dont think i can do this
[01:25] <elin> to small brain or somethihng
[01:25] <elin> lol
[01:25] <matthew_> elin, why not?
[01:25] <matthew_> lol
[01:25] <elin> no coz i dont know what i am doing
[01:26] <matthew_> elin, ok, I'll just paste the significant parts...h/o
[01:26] <robert1> anybody here who can help me with alsa and oss
[01:26] <elin> thanks
[01:27] <elin> damn.. (sorry) ..................i closed down that..ehh..window i needed..
[01:27] <elin> config.. what ever..it was called
[01:28] <matthew_> elin, you need to do this:  sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:28] <elin> thanks
[01:28] <elin> k, i am back
[01:28] <matthew_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38643/
[01:28] <arcade> ahh, ATI's drivers worked. .:)
[01:29] <matthew_> elin, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38643/
[01:29] <Sanni> can someone tell me If I need to install drivers for my graphics card on Kubuntu to play games
[01:29] <elin> oh my oh my, i will try .. :S
[01:30] <matthew_> elin, no need to get hysterical...it's easy...just follow my instructions.
[01:31] <metres> Sanni : it depend of your card...
[01:32] <mindspin> sanni, no, because nobody knows which card you have and which games you wanna play
[01:32] <elin> ok i have done like u said matthew, i think.. but i cant see it like u said in the bottom
[01:32] <elin> or do i need to open it again?                       sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:32] <elin> ?
[01:33] <Sanni> I have nvidia geforce 7900GT TOP and I wanna play my favourite game World of warcraft >D
[01:33] <sk> as far as i read
[01:33] <Sanni> I have frivers on CD but I dunno how to install them
[01:33] <sk> ati driver under linux are just terrible
[01:33] <sk> everyone does have problems with it
[01:33] <sk> and its damn slow
[01:34] <sk> so i guess thats my real issue
[01:34] <matthew_> elin, I'm not quite sure what you did...but you need to edit your xorg.conf file to make it look like mine....but just so far as what is commented and what is not...
[01:34] <elin> well i think i did that
[01:34] <Sanni> so it will lag u think
[01:34] <matthew_> elin, I haven't slept in 20 hours...sorry if I'm rude...
[01:34] <elin> thats no problem its just me who is slow :)
[01:35] <elin> uhm, guess i have to .. go back to xp or something :S this was hard for me
[01:35] <elin> but marry christmas you all
[01:35] <elin> and thanks
[01:35] <Sanni> cya
[01:35] <matthew_> elin, alright...come back when you're tired of restrictions...lol
[01:35] <elin> :)
[01:35] <elin> byee
[01:36] <matthew_> seeya
[01:36] <matthew_> lol...too bad it was "too hard" for her...oh well, life goes on...
[01:36] <zorbis> hello, all! does anybody know if IPDBrute works under *NIX?    (sorry my for bad english)
[01:37] <matthew_> zorbis, what is your native language?
[01:37] <zorbis> russian
[01:37] <matthew_> !ru | zorbis
[01:37] <ubotu> zorbis:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[01:37] <zorbis> thx a lot
[01:37] <matthew_> np
[01:38] <Sanni> hey matthew, can u help me now >D
[01:38] <matthew_> Sanni, what
[01:38] <matthew_> is the problem?
[01:39] <Sanni> Well, i\d like to know how to install ATI drivers from my CD
[01:39] <matthew_> rofl....install ATI drivers
[01:39] <matthew_> j/k...lemme google around
[01:40] <Sanni> they dont wanna start up <*
[01:40] <matthew_> Sanni, what model card?
[01:40] <Sanni> geforce 7900GT TOP
[01:40] <Sanni> nvidia ofc
[01:41] <matthew_> Sanni, you can't install ATI drivers for an nvidia card.
[01:41] <Sanni> ASUS
[01:41] <Sanni> that\s the one
[01:41] <matthew_> !nvidia
[01:41] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:41] <matthew_> Sanni, that should answer your question ^^^^
[01:41] <Sanni> okies
[01:42] <Sanni> i\ll check it out thanks mate
[01:42] <matthew_> Sanni, good luck!
[01:42] <matthew_> np
[01:42] <Sanni> btw, could u tell me how to return the normal keyboard settings which i have in windows
[01:43] <matthew_> Sanni, what do you mean?
[01:43] <Sanni> My smileys come out all wrong
[01:43] <Sanni> cant find the question mark either >&
[01:43] <matthew_> Sanni, in what way?
[01:43] <Sanni> see!
[01:43] <matthew_> ok...h/o
[01:43] <matthew_> Sanni, are you using an American keyboard or Australian one?
[01:44] <Sanni> umm, i\m from finland
[01:44] <Simian__> merry christmas
[01:44] <Sanni> thanks and same to u
[01:44] <entraks> thanks simian
[01:44] <matthew_> Sanni, lol, sorry...got confused with the "mate"
[01:45] <matthew_> Sanni, ok...so...I'm assuming you're using a Finnish Keyboard and layout?
[01:45] <Sanni> yes
[01:45] <Sanni> hmm, maybe it\s sumthing to do with i\m using live cd atm
[01:45] <matthew_> Sanni, ok, it sounds like your keymapping got messed up...you can alter this by going to Kmenu->System Settings->Keyboard
[01:46] <matthew_> Sanni, I think so, because the default (I think) is American English....
[01:46] <matthew_> bummer for you...but if you want to use a LiveCD...check out www.damnsmalllinux.org
[01:47] <Sanni> I dont rly
[01:47] <Sanni> I\d like to change from windows xp to linux for good
[01:48] <matthew_> Sanni, ok...go for it...it's really great ( except for games, at least not w/o a struggle)!
[01:48] <Sanni> but I cant play my games correctly
[01:48] <Sanni> its a bit of a drawback
[01:48] <Sanni> I rly like my games :D
[01:49] <matthew_> Sanni, yeah...luckily I never really got into games for the pc...lol
[01:49] <matthew_> Sanni, orly?
[01:49] <Sanni> yarly
[01:49] <Sanni> :P
[01:49] <matthew_> rofl...nice...
[01:50] <matthew_> I love internet insiders...
[01:52] <Sanni> My story is that my windows XP doesnt wanna boot for the 2nd time in 1month now, im looking at an reinstallation , again :(
[01:53] <ryanakca> is there python on edgy's live CD?
[01:53] <matthew_> Sanni, you may want to try some options to repair the installations...
[01:54] <matthew_> Sanni, put in the install disk, but hit 'R', not enter....this will drop you down to a command line. to fix your MBR type in fixmbr         to check disk and filesystems type chkdsk /P
[01:54] <Sanni> but tbh, I wanna switch to some sort of linux, Im fed up with all the viruses and firewalls and stuff
[01:54] <matthew_> Sanni, I feel you there...
[01:54] <Sanni> drives me up the wall
[01:55] <matthew_> plus it drains your wallet!
[01:55] <Sanni> haha, true enough :D
[01:56] <wilman> i have a problem with my rosegarden
[01:56] <wilman> it says this
[01:56] <Sanni> Luckily I still live with parents, but not for much longer
[01:56] <wilman> Rosegarden was unable to find a high-resolution timing source for MIDI performance.
[01:56] <wilman> This may mean you are using a Linux system with the kernel timer resolution set too low. Please contact your Linux distributor for more information.
[01:57] <matthew_> Sanni, you may want to consider doing a dual boot on your computer...have windows _and_ linux installed...you'll have an option to boot either one when you turn on your computer
[01:57] <Sanni> so id like to get this linux going for me before I move out
[01:58] <matthew_> Sanni, that way, you can have games and linux...although it does kind of defeat the purpose...just don't go online w/ Windows...you should be good
[01:58] <matthew_> Sanni, or even install XP in a virtual machine, if your computer is beefy enough
[01:58] <Sanni> yeah, but im really tied up to gaming, so id be using windows :&
[01:59] <matthew_> with either option, you can have windows and linux....
[02:00] <Sanni> ye, its brand new, a birthday|christmas present
[02:00] <matthew_> very cool
[02:00] <matthew_> might want to look into virtualization under linux....
[02:03] <Sanni> whats that ?
[02:04] <matthew_> It's where you've got XP running in a window while you are running linux...google for VMware or VMplayer
[02:04] <Sanni> I thought operating systems were quite virtual on their own hehe
[02:05] <Sanni> holy..
[02:05] <Sanni> thats quite virtual hehe
[02:05] <Lynoure> For some reason (in Dapper) things to not always appear as icons on the desktop when I download things there. Any idea of the cause? Refresh desktop does not help, but I can see the files in konqueror.
[02:05] <matthew_> Sanni, yes, to a point...but this is basically an OS within an OS...except they don't interact....
[02:06] <mindspin> Lynoure regular (known) filetypes?
[02:06] <behrangsa> hi
[02:06] <behrangsa> how can I install msttcorefonts?
[02:06] <Lynoure> mindspin: today's example is tar.gz
[02:07] <mindspin> other *tar.gz fles show up?
[02:07] <mindspin> files even
[02:08] <Lynoure> mindspin: yes, and if I recall, these that do not will too, after logout - login
[02:08] <mindspin> weird
[02:09] <Lynoure> annoying, given that desktop is a temp place for things I plan to deal with soon.
[02:11] <behrangsa> any ideas how can I install ms fonts :D ?
[02:12] <mindspin> !ttf
[02:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ttf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:12] <mindspin> !fonts
[02:12] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[02:12] <Sanni> matthew, thanks for the help btw, ill try to repair my windows in a bit
[02:12] <mindspin> behrangsa: so did you enable Multiverse?
[02:13] <Sanni> and merry christmas :)
[02:13] <Ppjet6> hi, i have a graphic bug and i don't know what to do :/
[02:14] <mindspin> I f you don't tell in a more detailed way we neither
[02:15] <Ppjet6> sorry :/
[02:15] <mindspin> no worries ;-)
[02:16] <Ppjet6> excuse me i don't know how explain ^^ ('im french, i havn't enough vocabulary ^^) :/
[02:16] <mindspin> !fr
[02:16] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:16] <Ppjet6> and i can't screen ! :s
[02:17] <Ppjet6> hum ^^, yes but there's more persons on officials chan ;)
[02:17] <mindspin> et mois n'avoir plus de vocabulaire tous.....
[02:17] <behrangsa> ubotu: how can I add multiverse?
[02:17] <mindspin> what kind of graphics card do you have?
[02:18] <Ppjet6> ati radeon x300 , but i think i havn't configure it
[02:18] <Ppjet6> ^^
[02:18] <mindspin> !ati
[02:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:18] <mindspin> have a look there maybe it helps
[02:19] <mindspin> try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver
[02:19] <mindspin> or was it xserver-xorg ?
[02:19] <Ppjet6> (it have just gone !, i don't know how ^^, i look for installing driver now ;), thanks)
[02:20] <mindspin> de rien
[02:20] <Ppjet6> yes, xserver-sorg, default configuration of kubuntu
[02:20] <Ppjet6> (i think)
[02:21] <behrangsa> Is JDK 5 (or JDK 6) available in repositories?
[02:28] <matthew_> Sanni, no problem...have fun....lol
[02:31] <Sanni> hehe, ill my very best to get things sorted :D
[02:32] <Sanni> try*
[02:35] <php-freak> any one know why my sound, video ain't working in my firefox?
[02:35] <Behi> any ideas how can I install JDK 5 on Kubuntu? it seems not to be available in the reps for Kubuntu 6.10
[02:41] <Lathiat> Behi: what package ar eyou tryign to install
[02:41] <Lathiat> Behi: you want sun-java5-jdk, but you need to enable "multiverse"
[02:41] <mindspin> !java
[02:41] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[02:42] <Behi> Lathiat: I think I have enabled multiverse
[02:43] <mindspin> are you looking for the JRE or JDE ?
[02:43] <mindspin> developing environment is not available in the repos...
[02:43] <mindspin> afaik
[02:43] <Behi> Lathiat: I have edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse in front of my http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[02:44] <Behi> mindspin: I am looking for JDK
[02:44] <mindspin> what does JDK stand for?
[02:44] <Lathiat> your not after -backports
[02:44] <Lathiat> your after just plain edgy
[02:45] <Lathiat> java development kit?
[02:45] <mindspin> that is not available afaik
[02:46] <mindspin> but I would not put my hand into fire for that statement
[02:46] <Behi> mindspin:Java Development Kit
[02:47] <mindspin> I fear you got to compile it
[02:47] <Behi> it is only available for 6.06 right?
[02:49] <mindspin> for 6.06 it is if adept is not lying
[02:49] <Behi> ok
[02:50] <Behi> I guess I have to wait then or install the bin package from java.sun.com :(
[02:50] <shenmue> !lsb
[02:50] <ubotu> lsb: Linux Standard Base 3.1 support package. In component main, is extra. Version 3.1-10ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 11 kB, installed size 40 kB
[03:02] <sassaroli> HI i am having problems
[03:02] <sassaroli> with kmix and a laptop
[03:02] <sassaroli> anyone could please HELP me?
[03:05] <xenol> !icon creation
[03:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about icon creation - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:05] <xenol> !icon
[03:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about icon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:06] <Thonolan> hi there i have use k9copy it chrashed a few times and now is my partition full anybody an idea where k9copy save the temporary files ?
[03:07] <stdin> Thonolan: probably in /tmp
[03:08] <Thonolan> stdin unfortunaltely not
[03:09] <Thonolan> this was first intention of mine
[03:09] <hyper_ch> hiho, somebody knows how to import a thunderbird addressbook (abook.mab) into kmail/kontact?
[03:09] <Thonolan> if k9copy works proper i have an iso on my home
[03:09] <shenmue> anyone use rss2email? I want to how to set rss2email use estmp to sent mail
[03:12] <stdin> Thonolan: you could run 'du -x /|sort -rnk 1,1|head' to see the largest directores
[03:13] <Thonolan> stdin thx i will try
[03:13] <tony__> hello everyone and MERRY XMASS :)
[03:14] <Chris7mas> hi all
[03:14] <tony__> has anyone here installed beryl ??? if so , do you have any advice for boobies ???
[03:14] <Chris7mas> anybody knows where should i put the links in the kmenu (except for adding them directly through the menu editor)
[03:15] <Chris7mas> is there a file or a directory to configure that manually
[03:15] <tony__> oops
[03:15] <Behi> mindspin: I got it installed
[03:15] <tony__> no boobies. i ment newbies
[03:15] <tony__> lol
[03:15] <Behi> mindspin: I mean JDK 1.5.0_08
[03:16] <Behi> it was available in the multiverse
[03:16] <Lele-1> hey i need help about ffmpeg
[03:16] <Lele-1> how can i add mp3 to video tutorial ?
[03:17] <Behi> I added deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy multiverse    and    deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy multiverse
[03:18] <Lele-1> found it!
[03:18] <Lele-1> tnx
[03:18] <Lele-1> bye
[03:18] <tony__> anyone installed beryl ?
[03:21] <Pensacola> tony__ I have it installed
[03:21] <Pensacola> see #ubuntu-xgl
[03:21] <tony__> are you happy with it..
[03:21] <Pensacola> sure I'm happy with it
[03:21] <tony__> i got the instruction on how to install right off beryl
[03:21] <Pensacola> although I only use it to impress windows fans :)
[03:21] <tony__> i want to install it too , i think soo damn cool
[03:21] <tony__> but im too afraid . lol i m  new to linux
[03:21] <Pensacola> yeah, it's pretty cool
[03:21] <Pensacola> just follow the wiki and you'll be fine
[03:22] <tony__> thanks. , i want to do the same thing impress window guys. lol
[03:22] <Pensacola> :D
[03:22] <tony__> they been pain in the butt regarding linux and window
[03:22] <Pensacola> most of them start drooling ;)
[03:22] <Pensacola> yeah I know the feeling :D
[03:22] <tony__> thats how i joind linux
[03:22] <Pensacola> yeah me too
[03:22] <Pensacola> and windows costs way too much
[03:23] <Pensacola> I'm a poor student :)
[03:23] <tony__> i was drooling over what i sow on youtube.com lol
[03:23] <Pensacola> brb
[03:23] <tony__> vista seems comming out with something like that , but heheh, linux is the best
[03:23] <Admiral_Chicago> tony__, the beryl wiki is pretty extensive
[03:23] <rius09> KDE rocks
[03:23] <tony__> yes. .adminral .. been there , but it seems is very simple to follow the installation
[03:23] <tony__> even for someone like me who knows nothing
[03:23] <tony__> lol
[03:25] <tony__>  meg memory installed on my system
[03:25] <tony__> oops
[03:25] <tony__> i have nvidia geforce 7 series
[03:25] <xenol> !cz
[03:25] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[03:25] <tony__> i kept the default kubuntu driver for this . is that ok , or do i need to install different driver for my vid card
[03:28] <Admiral_Chicago> tony__, you need nvidia driver
[03:28] <tony__> damn.
[03:28] <tony__> thats soo hard to install
[03:28] <tony__> driver stated in my config is     NV
[03:28] <xenol> how can i install tar.bz2? 1st need to extract then ./configure, make and make install?
[03:29] <Admiral_Chicago> xenol, yes.
[03:29] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo make install though
[03:29] <Admiral_Chicago> tony__, yes, you want to use nvidia
[03:29] <abstruck> sudo checkinstall is better... :D
[03:29] <Admiral_Chicago> nv is the open source driver
[03:29] <Thonolan> stdin: can i show the filesizes for the whole partition or only my home dir
[03:30] <tony__> so i should be ok if i m going to install beryl with that nv driver ?
[03:30] <Admiral_Chicago> no, you need the proprietary one
[03:30] <tony__> damn. :(
[03:30] <Admiral_Chicago> yup
[03:31] <ccc> tony__: just read the instructions for installing drivers and beryl @ http://wiki.beryl-project.org
[03:31] <tony__> i fond one off nvidia.. but it required all sort of other packeges that needed to be installed and compiling kernel and things. so i gave up
[03:32] <stdin> Thonolan: chenge 'du -x /' to 'du -x ~' to show just your home dir
[03:32] <Behi> why in Yahoo Mail right-click is not working correctly in Firefox 2.0 under Kubuntu?
[03:38] <Thonolan> stdin thx for help
[03:38] <stdin> np
[03:43] <tha-root> !nvidia
[03:43] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:44] <xenol> !shut up!
[03:44] <ubotu> :x
[03:44] <Admiral_Chicago> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=324024
[03:44] <shenmue> !:x
[03:45] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:45] <Admiral_Chicago> I need help with that link
[03:48] <php-freak> any one know why my sound don't work on flash, and other videos on firefox?
[03:51] <xenol> php-freak u dont have plugins installed
[03:51] <xenol> !restricted formats
[03:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:51] <xenol> u will find it there
[03:52] <php-freak> can i install the plug in by diong a search with the application package manager?
[03:52] <shenmue> xenol: I can play flash but cannot hear sounds in Firefox
[03:52] <xenol> shenmue uhave libxine-extracodecs installed?
[03:52] <xenol> php-freak yes
[03:53] <xenol> but find name in that link
[03:53] <php-freak> is that what i search for
[03:53] <shenmue> xenol: yep
[03:53] <php-freak> what do i need to search for in package manager ?
[03:53] <xenol> shenmue and w32codecs?
[03:54] <shenmue> xenol: Firefox plays flash using these codecs?
[03:54] <xenol> i am ot sure but think so
[03:54] <xenol> and php-freak https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[03:55] <xenol> u have here how to enable flash on FF
[03:57] <shenmue> xenol: I did install w32codecs, and I can play other formats of multimedia files
[03:57] <xenol> and in FF?
[03:57] <exs> does anyone know the name of that nice KDE os x dock style thing?
[03:58] <xenol> exs www.kde-look.org and look there
[03:58] <stdin> shenmue: try changing 'FIREFOX_DSP="none"' to 'FIREFOX_DSP="artsdsp"' in /etc/firefox/firefoxrc
[03:58] <exs> xenol:  i found one there but the homepage didn't work and I wasn't sure if it was the one
[03:58] <xenol> ah
[03:59] <shenmue> xenol: yes, in ff too
[03:59] <tony__> maybe somone knows this? i have multiple email accounts, im looking for applet that can check my emails and stays in task bar.. is there something like that for linux?
[03:59] <shenmue> stdin: Thanks, I'll give it a try
[04:00] <xenol> shenmue so it is solved?
[04:00] <shenmue> xenol: no, all formats but flash
[04:01] <xenol> welll see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats for more info
[04:04] <shenmue> stdin: Any ways I can change FIREFOX_DSP in my ~/.mozilla dir?
[04:05] <stdin> shenmue: maybe if you put that line in '~/.mozilla/firefox/rc'
[04:06] <stdin> you'll probably need to create that file
[04:06] <shenmue> stdin: thanks
[04:06] <stdin> no problem
[04:06] <stdin> well, gotta go do the family thing now
[04:07] <stdin> see y'all later
[04:12] <uyusuk> nediyonuz laaa
[04:14] <ryanakca> ok, I put my laptop into hibernate... how do I get out of it?
[04:17] <w00t_sauce> how do I change wine's settings?
[04:18] <fnord5> go to a shell and type wine then tab
[04:19] <||arifaX> w00t_sauce: winecfg
[04:19] <fnord5> youll see a list of all possible comands that start with wine
[04:19] <fnord5> one of them will say config or cfg youll figure it out
[04:19] <w00t_sauce> thanks
[04:20] <BluesKaj> Howdy all ! :)
[04:24] <BluesKaj> !wine
[04:24] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:26] <soulrider> hi BluesKaj
[04:27] <BluesKaj> hey soulrider ...just showing my son a glimpse of the Linux community
[04:28] <soulrider> ahhh, good
[04:28] <soulrider> we need to convert him **laugh like an evil maniac**
[04:29] <soulrider> brb, need some ice-cream =D
[04:29] <BluesKaj> he's a busy student with not much time for fooling with linux ,but eventually he 'll prolly swtich ...well try it anyway:)
[04:30] <BluesKaj> bbiab
[04:32] <soulrider> BluesKaj: im a busy college student, my best piece of advice is, just swicth
[04:32] <soulrider> try to stop using windows
[04:32] <soulrider> not even one app
[04:32] <soulrider> force youself to use linux
[04:32] <soulrider> in a week, you wont want to go back to win
[04:33] <soulrider> thats how i did it
[04:34] <BluesKaj> I still have an XP partition for some video editing that is easier for me on windows ATM
[04:35] <soulrider> yeah
[04:35] <soulrider> i miss photoshop
[04:35] <soulrider> until 2 weeks ago i had windows installed
[04:35] <soulrider> but now i only got linux
[04:36] <BluesKaj> you're braver than I am, soulrider :)
[04:36] <soulrider> lol
[04:37] <soulrider> there are no apps i miss form windows
[04:37] <soulrider> and i program in java so....
[04:38] <BluesKaj> is there an "elements" equivalent in deb pkgs ?
[04:41] <soulrider> elements ?
[04:41] <BluesKaj> photoshop elements
[04:41] <soulrider> eh, no idea
[04:42] <BluesKaj> it's an entry level version of photoshop
[04:44] <Martiini> I want to connect win.xp  to kubuntu with crossover lan cable .. how do I do that?  I have samba installed etc
[04:48] <Lathiat> Martiini: what exactly do you want to "connect"
[04:49] <Martiini> I want to transfer files from win xp box to kubuntu laptop
[04:49] <Martiini> via crossover cable
[04:50] <Martiini> never mind ... I will do that through my router .. just thought it would be simple to set up connection between xp and kubuntu with crossover cable
[04:58] <root_> hi everybody and merry xmas
[04:58] <root_> I need a lot of help...
[04:59] <root_> can anybody help me?
[05:02] <root_> :((((
[05:02] <soulrider> hello everyone
[05:03] <soulrider> !nexwiz
[05:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nexwiz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:06] <MeSsIaH> ciao a tutti
[05:06] <MeSsIaH> c' qualcuno che pu aiutarmi?
[05:06] <LjL> !it | MeSsIaH
[05:06] <ubotu> MeSsIaH: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:08] <fnord5> ubotu knows italian?
[05:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about knows italian? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:08] <LjL> fnord5: ubotu knows many languages
[05:29] <aleale2> hi
[05:29] <aleale2> I'm trying to make a wpa2 wireless connection
[05:29] <aleale2> I can see the connection but cannot login
[05:31] <jerp> aleale2: I wish I could help you, but I don't know anything about wireless (sorry if this sounds like a rejection from a bot, I'm not one)
[05:31] <aleale2> np thx
[05:32] <jerp> maybe someone else will be along in a  moment
[05:33] <karmikaze> note to anyone having issues with firefox, it seems for me at least mozilla-firefox runs without crashing constantly
[05:38] <Lynoure> karmikaze: good for you :)
[05:38] <karmikaze> hey Lynoure!
[05:38] <karmikaze> sorry i never got back to you :P
[05:38] <karmikaze> im still homeless tho
[05:38] <karmikaze> lol
[05:38] <karmikaze> should hopefully have somewhere to live by the end of jan -_-
[05:39] <Lynoure> karmikaze: I hope you will, it's tough not knowing for sure where to stay.
[05:39] <karmikaze> ya srsly -_-
[05:40] <karmikaze> couch hopping
[05:40] <karmikaze> ah well, find out who your real friends are lol
[05:40] <karmikaze> those that you can trust with your server anyway
[05:40] <karmikaze> hahaha
[05:41] <Lynoure> I might be donating my room for a friend for a week in january, as her job starts before her new home becomes available
[05:41] <karmikaze> :)
[05:41] <karmikaze> oh i used to be alexicon, incase you didnt know
[05:41] <karmikaze> :P
[05:41] <karmikaze> just remembered i changed my name heh
[05:41] <Lynoure> I was already wondering a bit, but yes alexicon rings a bell
[05:42] <karmikaze> yah the rf reader
[05:42] <karmikaze> :)
[05:42] <karmikaze> ever get rid of that piece?
[05:43] <Lynoure> The smartcard reader fw is still here.
[05:43] <Lynoure> So just let me know if you want it at some point, maybe it will still be here :)
[05:45] <karmikaze> heheh
[05:45] <karmikaze> alright! i gotta get ready to grab my sis from the airport, later people!
[05:45] <Lynoure> Have a good Xmas :)
[05:50] <karmikaze> thanks Lynoure you too
[05:50] <aleale> hi none that knows about wpa2 and wireless? I cannot login into my AP
[05:51] <ubuntu> hi
[05:51] <mat087> How can I add to my sources.list this repository ? ftp://ftp.scarlet.be/pub/kde/stable/kdevelop-latest/kubuntu/dists/edgy
[05:52] <mat087> Can't figure out how to write...
[05:52] <ubuntu> hallo
[05:52] <ubuntu> poland?
[06:01] <tony__> what is libknodepart ?? i used my kontact to read news , but it says that file is not in my root and is missing
[06:02] <behrangsa> hi all
[06:03] <behrangsa> it seems my fonts are a little bit blured
[06:03] <behrangsa> and not clear
[06:03] <behrangsa> is there a way to fix this?
[06:03] <Pensacola> how to burn an audio cd with k3b from mp3's?
[06:05] <Pensacola> nm, found it
[06:15] <malik__> is it safe if i use partition magic or something like that to convert my data drive from ntfs to ext3?................and how stable ext3 format is to store data?
[06:17] <ccc> malik__: that's not possible afaik, and ext3 is A LOT safer than ntfs (which is crap) :)
[06:18] <malik__> afaik i saw it in partition magic that it could convert drives.........i remeber i think from days of partition magic version 8.0
[06:19] <malik__> back in those days it could convert whole drives without the need to format the drive
[06:19] <malik__> but that was under windows xp
[06:19] <Ace2016> ext3 is slow, xfs is faster
[06:20] <malik__> what is xfs?
[06:20] <Ace2016> another linux file system
[06:20] <malik__> can we install linux on xfs system?
[06:20] <Ace2016> yes
[06:21] <Ace2016> i run kubuntu on xfs
[06:21] <ccc> malik__: the safe way would be backing up the data on a separate drive and copy them to the new partition
[06:21] <malik__> okie then how do i back up my home directory n restore it after the new installation on xfs?........im currently on ext3
[06:22] <Ace2016> well you can keep ext3
[06:24] <malik__> one more thing that i have a driver installed on win xp so that it can read all the linux data drives n read n write to it.........thats why i was thinking of converting the data ntfs to ext3 so that i can change the data as i require from linux coz linux doesnt safely write to ntfs systems
[06:24] <Ace2016> anyone know if its possible to try reiserfs v4 in kubuntu?
[06:25] <Ace2016> malik__: then you should stick with ext3, that driver, as far as i know can only work with ext3 and ext2
[06:27] <malik__> Ace2016: yes you are right mate it only works with ext3 n ext2............but which one is better ext2 or ext3?
[06:31] <SexMas> i would imagine ext3 cos its a higher number ^^
[06:33] <malik__> oki doki thanx guyz
[06:34] <malik__> by the way merry x-mas to all
[06:35] <malik__> who is goin to a midnight mass?
[06:36] <Lynoure> I'm just listening to Cthulhu Xmas songs :)
[06:38] <malik__> :).......oki guyz gotta go Mrs is calling
[06:39] <malik__> have a good one every one
[06:39] <stamen> HAPPY CHRISTMAS TO ALL !!!
[06:39] <stamen>    
[06:39] <stamen> and now the question
[06:40] <stamen> is it normal for HDTV movie to have a little pauses
[06:40] <stamen> when I am watching the movie
[06:40] <stamen> the movie still for a second and run after that smoothly
[06:41] <Ace2016> is this broadcast tv or from a dvd?
[06:41] <stamen> lets say from dvd
[06:41] <stamen> but it is on my hard drive
[06:42] <stamen> the CPU is not overloaded
[06:42] <Ace2016> then no it shouldn't pause
[06:42] <stamen> my CPU is 2.66Ghz
[06:42] <Ace2016> graphics?
[06:42] <stamen> I think so, but it pauses
[06:43] <stamen> graphic card is Nvidia GF 6600 LE 256mb of ram
[06:43] <stamen> with working driver and enabled Open GL
[06:43] <stamen> so what shoud be the problem ?
[06:44] <stamen> I have no idea
[06:44] <stamen> :(
[06:44] <Ace2016> maybe you could ask in #mplayer? or somewhere like that
[06:44] <stamen> I am watching the movie with kaffeine, and the same is with mplayer
[06:44] <stamen> ok
[06:44] <stamen> are they on irc server like kubuntu, mean irc.freenode.com
[06:44] <Ace2016> yup
[06:45] <Ace2016> type /join #mplayer
[06:45] <stamen> ok
[06:45] <stamen> I am there
[06:45] <ubuntu> merry christmas
[06:45] <Ace2016> merry christmas
[06:49] <stamen> Ace2016: nobody answers me :(
[06:49] <stamen> there
[06:50] <Blissex> stamen: you have to be patient, and try to reword your question if nobody answers...
[06:52] <tony__> guys, how can i put my trash on my desktop ?
[06:52] <Wulong> How do I disable print-key for ksnapshot? where?
[06:52] <Blissex> tony__: grab your garbage bin, carry it near your desk, and turn it upside on top of your desk ;-)
[06:53] <tony__> LOL
[06:53] <tony__> didn't know things are that easy with linux :P
[06:54] <froud> anyone clued on how to make a Kubuntu host join a Samba Domain?
[06:54] <tony__> it would be better if there was way to put my desktop stuff in the trash ..
[06:54] <tony__> lol
[06:54] <Blissex> tony__: for KDE an easy way to restore the trash icon on the desktop
[06:54] <Blissex> tony__: may be to add the trash applet to the panel/Kicker and then drag it to the desktop.
[06:55] <tony__> humm, thats good idea
[06:55] <tony__> brb
[06:55] <Blissex> tony__: I prefer to have the trash applet in the panel/Kicker anyhow.
[06:55] <claudiu> anyone here is using feisty ?
[06:55] <tony__> my desktop soo damn naked. lol
[06:57] <Blissex> tony__: you can also create an icon with 'trash:/' as the URL IIRC
[06:58] <raslor> hello and Happy Holidays everyone.... how do I find other server list to add for irc?
[06:58] <tony__> i see . thanks . will do that
[06:58] <giorgio> hello
[06:58] <Blissex> raslor: look at the IRC search engine...
[06:59] <raslor> Blissex:  As a package to add?
[06:59] <tony__> ahh, that just did it like a charm :)
[07:00] <Blissex> raslor: no, it is a web site that lists dozens of networks, and thousands of channels and you can search it by keyword. IRC.Netsplit.org IIRC
[07:00] <raslor> ok thanks alot and Merry Christmas
[07:02] <Blissex> raslor: that was IRC.Netsplit.DE
[07:05] <Captain_Haddock> Hi, is Beryl only for Gnome users?
[07:07] <soulrider> for any Captain_Haddock
[07:09] <claudiu> can anyone tell some impressions on feisty fawn ?
[07:10] <lotusleaf> claudiu: #ubuntu+1
[07:13] <claudiu> lotusleaf: thanks
[07:13] <slow-motion> re
[07:13] <lotusleaf> claudiu: yw =)
[07:13] <slow-motion> merry xmas
[07:13] <lotusleaf> slow-motion: and a good GoetiaMass to you!
[07:14] <slow-motion> thank you lotusleaf
[07:15] <Bubba_Gump> merry christmas, and hare krishna too :)
[07:15] <Captain_Haddock> soulrider: thanks, installing now :P
[07:23] <pm2> Hi - I'm running the latest version of kubuntu.  I'm trying to run a program that accesses the soundcard via /dev/dsp.  It can read from the soundcard input ok, but when it tries to use the soundcard to make a sound, it gets an error message saying "device or resource busy."
[07:23] <pm2> I tried disabling ARTS in the KDE system config, but I still get the same problem.  Any ideas?
[07:24] <birge> hi
[07:24] <birge> is anybody out there?
[07:24] <Blissex> pm2: http://WWW.sabi.co.UK/Notes/linuxSoundALSA.html the sharing and OSS sections...
[07:25] <Blissex> birge: no! everybody else has left this planet :-)
[07:25] <birge> ohh..thats so sad:(
[07:25] <birge> then nobody can help me with my kubuntu problems
[07:26] <Blissex> birge: but they have left behind a lot of web sites with HOWTOs and information and manuals etc :-)
[07:26] <birge> yep, i know.. but it is much more easyer to ask someone:D
[07:30] <pm2> Blissex, ok, I looked through that.  According to lsmod I am using OSS drivers.  However, I did do lsof | grep -i dsp, and the only program it shows using /dev/dsp is the one I'm trying to run.
[07:31] <pm2> The specific error messages I'm getting are: ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:862:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave ---------- *** opensnd: open: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy ***
[07:31] <pm2> birge, if you have a question... just ask it ;-)
[07:32] <Blissex> pm2: note that '/dev/dsp' is not an ALSA device...
[07:32] <Blissex> pm2: so you got a bigger problem here :-)
[07:33] <Blissex> birge: you can always try to ask specific questions as <pm2> suggests. perhaps the dolphins can answer them :-)
[07:33] <birge> :)
[07:33] <birge> i hope, the dolphins are perfect linux users:D
[07:35] <pm2> Blissex, true... The program I want to use doesn't seem to support ALSA, and just wants the path to the sound card device.  By default it picked /dev/dsp, which works for capturing the soundcard input.  So I guess I should be looking at that aoss wrapper?
[07:35] <Blissex> pm2: the 'aoss' wrapper or 'artsdsp'
[07:35] <birge> so my problem is that the computer can't see the drivers - dvd, voice driver (i forgot its english name:S), etc...
[07:35] <Blissex> birge: a bit more specific would help...
[07:36] <birge> what do you want to know - exactly?
[07:36] <pm2> Blissex, is /dev/adsp something related to this?
[07:37] <Blissex> pm2: not a lot, that's the ''alternate'' dsp for cards that have two.
[07:37] <Blissex> birge: something like what your PC looks like.
[07:37] <Blissex> birge: and what makes you think those peripherals are not detected.
[07:37] <birge> it is silver and black.. ok, it was a bad joke
[07:39] <birge> unfortunately i dont really know the distribution, it is my brother's computer.. i think it has some 1 G RAM, a quite good processor, and an integrated voice driver
[07:39] <birge> where can i see the exact parameters?
[07:40] <pm2> ok, artsdsp didn't work
[07:41] <birge> AND dont accept my root password, wich was good last night:S
[07:42] <pm2> Blissex, out of curiosity, why would capturing from the soundcard work, but not output?
[07:43] <Blissex> pm2: odd, but that may be because output is not set-up right. E.g. digital vs. analog.
[07:44] <Blissex> birge: some peripherals can only be used as 'root' or if the user using them is in a special group. This may be part of your problem.
[07:45] <pm2> I see... well, running the program with aoss does the same thing that running it without aoss does...  I'm thinking this may not be an OSS/ALSA issue, as the program has worked fine on other Ubuntu computers without needing much work.  This is a laptop, however, so maybe the soundcard is more goofy.
[07:46] <pm2> Blissex, I tried a different (KDE) program.  It gives this error: Cannot open audio device /dev/audio: Device or resource busy -- this is making me think there might be a bigger issue here.
[07:46] <Blissex> pm2: sounds like that you configurefd aRts and/or KDE sound for OSS and not for ALSA.
[07:47] <Blissex> pm2: check in the 'Sounds & Multimedia:Sound system:Hardware' section of the settings
[07:49] <pm2> Blissex, it was on "Autodetect", so I changed it to ALSA, but I'm having the same issues.
[07:50] <pm2> I tired ESD too, just to check - same thing
[07:51] <Blissex> pm2: you set 'Override device location' perchance?
[07:51] <pm2> nope
[07:51] <Blissex> pm2: it should be unchecked or set to 'defauklt'
[07:51] <Blissex> pm2: it should be unchecked or set to 'default'
[07:51] <pm2> its unchecked
[07:52] <Blissex> pm2: the problem here is ALSA device names don't have a "/dev/" prefix...
[07:52] <Blissex> pm2: never mind them being called "/dev/dsp" or "/dev/audio".
[07:52] <Blissex> pm2: perhaps the KDE program you are trying is configured to use OSS. This is often the default.
[07:53] <pm2> Blissex, it asks for an "Audio Device", and the default is either /dev/dsp or /dev/audio depending on the program.  To use alsa, what would I put for the audio device?
[07:54] <Blissex> pm2: then it must be an OSS-only program. Too bad.
[07:54] <Blissex> pm2: if it supported ALSA, it would have something that allowed you to choose between ALSA and OSS.
[07:54] <pm2> Can I disable ALSA and just use oss?
[07:55] <Blissex> pm2: you could, but it is complicated, and usually OSS does not support multiple programs using the same card.
[07:55] <pm2> this is frustrating... why would aoss not work?
[07:55] <Thehound666> hello. need a small bit of help. I need to copy/paste with super user privelages and Google turns up nothing
[07:56] <Blissex> pm2: there are several cases in which it cannot, but try 'artsdsp'
[07:56] <Thehound666> get this when trying to install fish file:///home/thehound/Desktop/FiSH-XChat.v0.98-binaries/Linux/xfish.so
[07:56] <Thehound666> access denied or something
[07:56] <Thehound666> it didn't fully paste
[07:56] <pm2> Blissex, would this error message mean anything: ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:862:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[07:57] <pm2> Under artsdsp, it can even capture from the soundcard, and segfaults...
[07:57] <bomber> Thehound666: sudo then after putting in your password type konqueror and it'll run it as root
[07:58] <Thehound666> ahh thanks, knew it could be done. Got stuff I have running that I didn't want to kill to reboot as root
[08:00] <Thehound666> says command not found
[08:00] <Thehound666> after it asked for password
[08:01] <d3413r> hi all
[08:01] <d3413r> got a problem
[08:01] <d3413r> i know my monitor is able to display 1280x1024 but i dont't know if 60 hz or 74 rate...
[08:01] <Thehound666> nvm thanks
[08:02] <Thehound666> forget it's case sensitive
[08:04] <d3413r> anybody got an idea?
[08:04] <lupine_85> d3413r: try them both and see what happens?
[08:04] <d3413r> lol
[08:05] <lupine_85> read the manual?
[08:05] <d3413r> I guess too much would not be good for the TFT
[08:05] <lupine_85> nah, modern stuff just turns itself off if it doesn't support x mode
[08:05] <d3413r> well ^^ it is modern
[08:05] <d3413r> wait
[08:05] <lupine_85> not like the good old days where too much refresh == clouds of smoke :(
[08:05] <d3413r> gonna try
[08:06] <d3413r> xD
[08:10] <Thehound666> you guys rock. got fish encryption on Linux now.
[08:10] <Thehound666> no more using Windows for mIRC for site staff meetings
[08:11] <burner> mirc works through wine
[08:11] <spawn57> merry christmas too you too
[08:11] <Thehound666> xchat seems good enough
[08:11] <spawn57> konversation isnt' bad either if you're into kde
[08:12] <Thehound666> love Konversation, but no fish plugin for it
[08:12] <Thehound666> why I installed xchat
[08:12] <spawn57> ah i see
[08:12] <spawn57> i'm hammered btw
[08:12] <Thehound666> lol
[08:13] <Thehound666> I will be
[08:13] <spawn57> meh it's liek 3am here and I'm just waiting to sober up before I go to bed
[08:13] <Thehound666> it's early. Only 7:14 PM
[08:14] <spawn57> it's probably a good time to watch the darth vader vs japanese police video on youtube now
[08:14] <burner> noon here :)
[08:14] <Thehound666> wait a sec, my friend pasted me something just now stamped with 03:15. You must be in Australia
[08:15] <dupmeister> greetings
[08:16] <Eyeless> lo
[08:16] <dupmeister> hi
[08:17] <behrangsa> is it possible to hide Kontact like all other applications? When I press the close button, it gets closed instead of being minimized into the tray...
[08:17] <behrangsa> by all other applications I mean Konversation, Kopete :p
[08:18] <Captain_Haddock> But thus far, I'm only seeing the snazzy effects when I alt+tab around
[08:19] <Captain_Haddock> and maximise + minimise
[08:19] <Captain_Haddock> oh never mind :o
[08:20] <pm2> I'm having trouble with a program needing access to the sound card.  I get the error "opensnd: open: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy" when it tries to output sound, but it can capture sound without any issue.  alsamixer works to control the soundcard capture volume.  I'm pretty stumped as to what going on here.  Any ideas?
[08:21] <spawn57> I'm in Hong Kong
[08:21] <Eyeless> behrangsa: kontact minimizes to tray for me, dunno if i did anything to make it so tho
[08:22] <Eyeless> or did you want it to close when you click the closebutton?
[08:23] <pm2> This is the latest version of kubuntu, with alsa and OSS drivers installed
[08:25] <Captain_Haddock> pm2: Not sure, but the Kubuntu Device Database (in K Menu -> System) has a basic diagnostic test for sound..
[08:25] <Captain_Haddock> does it work there?
[08:26] <pm2> Captain_Haddock, yes it does
[08:29] <sbcl3> i have a .sty file as a latex package. where do i put it to make it usable?
[08:29] <joelle> cnam
[08:31] <Thehound666> what I find incredible is the support here is better than what I paid for from Microsoft back when I was a Windows newbie using Windows 3.x
[08:31] <Thehound666> showing my age now
[08:31] <sbcl3> i have a .sty file as a latex package. where do i put it to make it usable?
[08:32] <Hawkwind> sbcl3: No need to repeat yourself every couple of minutes.  If/When someone knows, they will surely help you
[08:32] <Thehound666> and I don't know. lol
[08:32] <Captain_Haddock> pm2: that's about the limit of my expertise, sorry. Which program is this? And are there any "select device" options in its preferences?
[08:33] <Captain_Haddock> Thehound666: heh.
[08:33] <pm2> Captain_Haddock, its gmfsk, a program for amateur radio.  It allows you to chose an "audio device", and defaults to /dev/dsp
[08:34] <spawn57> pm2 is that a gtk?
[08:34] <spawn57> program?
[08:34] <Captain_Haddock> Thehound666: I'm very new to all this as well :)
[08:34] <pm2> spawn57, yes
[08:34] <Captain_Haddock> Thehound666: The best resource I've found is ubotu :P
[08:35] <Captain_Haddock> !beryl
[08:35] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[08:35] <Captain_Haddock> and cha ching
[08:35] <Captain_Haddock> heh
[08:35] <Thehound666> well don't worry. Google is getting better at searching nix issues and if it fails, support here is great
[08:35] <spawn57> adn it's using /dev/dsp ... if I recall correctly kde's sound server will ask for exclusive use of /dev/dsp, you're going to have to turn off the sound server in system settngs to use that program =S
[08:37] <Captain_Haddock> Thehound666: have you seen this? http://www.google.com/linux ;)
[08:37] <pm2> spawn57, but capture from the soundcard works fine - that's whats stumping me
[08:37] <spawn57> oh
[08:37] <spacepod> hello all
[08:38] <spawn57> there is an option in arts to release control after a certain period of time, that might be what's making it act werid..
[08:38] <spawn57> try disabling the sound server anyway, and see if it works fine, then you can eliminate kde's sound server from the equation
[08:39] <pm2> spawn57, I disabled arts, but am still having the same issue
[08:40] <spawn57> pm2 i'm not sure what else it could be then =\
[08:40] <spawn57> anyway i gotta hit teh sack..
[08:40] <spawn57> g'nite guys
[08:40] <nasa> join #wicca
[08:40] <spacepod> typical samba question if anyone has a moment
[08:41] <Thehound666> that google Linux link is cute
[08:41] <spacepod> i open system setting and sharing enter the password for admin mode and the config box still stays greyed out
[08:43] <Thehound666> strange, but I never tried sharing. I used admin mode for display and network
[08:43] <Thehound666> seemed to always work
[08:44] <Captain_Haddock> spacepod: that happens to me too.
[08:45] <Thehound666> well you can always login as root, but I'll wait to tell you how until one of the more knowledgable say if that's necessary
[08:45] <Captain_Haddock> it is teh bug
[08:46] <Thehound666> I pull my internet plug if I use root
[08:46] <Thehound666> I'm that paranoid
[08:46] <spacepod> well i had samba running just fine in ubuntu
[08:47] <Thehound666> even though I'm behind NAT
[08:47] <spacepod> no problem editing the smb.conf file and via term
[08:47] <spacepod> just was trying kubuntu for the nice gui :P
[08:48] <Thehound666> for me it's definitely more than GUI as I could hack Windows to look almost any way I wanted it to
[08:48] <Thehound666> it's just a fundementally better system than Windows, especially in terms of resource allocation
[08:49] <spacepod> agree
[08:49] <Thehound666> like unused RAM is wasted RAM
[08:49] <Thehound666> Bill Gates need to learn that
[08:49] <claudiu> I can't even ping a certain host, and I know it is up and running (my iptables list is empty).
[08:49] <claudiu> can someone help me with that ?
[08:50] <spacepod> lol whats the word with vista.. just a gig of memory to running the system
[08:50] <spacepod> built in digital rights management
[08:50] <spacepod> no thanks :P
[08:50] <spacepod> what are you trying to ping claudiu
[08:51] <claudiu> spacepod: a linux host
[08:51] <Thehound666> Vista supposedly uses memory more like Linux but here's the catch:
[08:51] <Thehound666> most apps will use legacy API calls
[08:51] <spacepod> likewise dwid
[08:51] <Thehound666> thus letting Vista suffocate them
[08:51] <claudiu> spacepod: it is my friends linux host. He says it is running ok, it responds to ping and all, but I cant even ping it
[08:52] <Thehound666> 512 MB is official minum recommended
[08:52] <Thehound666> but we all know Bill
[08:52] <Thehound666> better have 2 gigs
[08:52] <claudiu> spacepod: the only thing I can think of is that dnsmasq is somehow causing this
[08:52] <Thehound666> minimum*
[08:53] <spacepod> hrrm got me claudiu
[08:53] <claudiu> spacepod: because I installed almost nothing recently
[08:53] <dwidmann> cladiu: can you access everything else? If so, dnsmasq isn't the problem
[08:53] <claudiu> spacepod: iptables on my pc says it is empty
[08:53] <claudiu> dwidmann: I can acces lots of things
[08:54] <dwidmann> claudiu: my point exactly
[08:54] <spacepod> can you ping around in your local network?
[08:54] <claudiu> dwidmann: I cant access http://www.ubuntu.ro for example
[08:54] <claudiu> spacepod: I can ping all kind of  things
[08:55] <spacepod> just not his host?
[08:55] <claudiu> if I'd  show you guys my /etc/init.d/ maybe you could tell who is the culprit ?
[08:56] <dwidmann> Would it happen to be a webserver? Why not try this: dig http://thedomainname.com
[08:56] <dettoaltrimenti> is there any way to generate a list of every file on your system in the terminal? like ls, but everything?
[08:57] <dwidmann> dettoaltrimenti: every file on the system? That would be a stupendously long list.
[08:57] <claudiu> spacepod: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38698/
[08:57] <claudiu> dwidmann: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38698/
[08:57] <spacepod> no doubt
[08:57] <dettoaltrimenti> yes, it would- but if used with the grep command, it would be a lot shorter
[08:58] <claudiu> what do you think ?
[08:59] <claudiu> dwidmann: digg says this
[08:59] <claudiu> ;; global options:  printcmd
[08:59] <claudiu> ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[08:59] <dwidmann> dettoaltrimenti:  ls -aR
[08:59] <dwidmann> dettoaltrimenti:  **: ls -aR /
[09:00] <dettoaltrimenti> thank you!
[09:00] <dwidmann> I wouldn't wanna do that though really, I'd more likely use the locate or find command ...
[09:00] <dwidmann> claudiu: well, you've found the problem
[09:01] <claudiu> dwidmann: well, can you tell  me more exactly  ?
[09:01] <dwidmann> claudiu: try dig or ping on that server from another computer to be sure.
[09:01] <frootstripe> # ps ax | wc -l ==> 112;     ls -d /proc/* | grep [0-9] |wc -l ==> 113      ???
[09:01] <claudiu> dwidmann: I did that and it is working
[09:02] <claudiu> dwidmann: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38698/ which of these could be the cause ?
[09:02] <dwidmann> claudiu: dig does a domain name lookup on the server ....
[09:03] <claudiu> dwidmann: so why cant I ping the IP address ?
[09:03] <dwidmann> claudiu: Maybe it is a problem with dnsmasq, though I still doubt it
[09:04] <dwidmann> claudiu: try pinging the server from a livecd?
[09:04] <claudiu> dwidmann: I'll purge dnsmasq, and we'll see
[09:04] <claudiu> dwidmann: thanks a lot
[09:04] <dwidmann> That would do it
[09:04] <dwidmann> but I found dnsmasq a pain to set up :\
[09:04] <dwidmann> Following the howto I found blindly broke my internet ... I had to do things a bit differently, oh well
[09:05] <claudiu> dwidmann: I purged dnsmasq, however the problem is still here
[09:05] <claudiu> dwidmann: maybe portsentry is the guilty ?
[09:06] <dwidmann> hmmm, maybe, what does that do?
[09:07] <dettoaltrimenti> if I'm in the terminal, in the directory /media/usbdisk/ and I want to get to /media/usbdisk/My Music, can I get there without retyping the first 2 parent directories?
[09:08] <dwidmann> dettoaltrimenti: cd ../..
[09:08] <tom__> how do you install a .run file?
[09:08] <dwidmann> tom__: chmod +x filename.run
[09:08] <dwidmann> tom__: ./filename.run
[09:08] <tom__> thank you
[09:09] <dwidmann> tom__ might need to do it with sudo, depending on where it wants to install it
[09:09] <tom__> alright
[09:10] <dettoaltrimenti> dwidmann- is there an argument with the grep command that will list the directory of every file it finds? I looked at man grep, but couldn't find one
[09:13] <dwidmann> dettoaltrimenti: I don't think so, not when you're using ls's recursive option, as far as I can tell, however, the locate command may be more in tune with what you're doing
[09:13] <dettoaltrimenti> thanks dwidmann
[09:14] <Thehound666> is there a way around a minor annoyance? my mouse wheel doesn't work under nix
[09:16] <dettoaltrimenti> dwidmann my problem with locate is that it doesn't seem to search my usb HD, or my partition with windows on it
[09:16] <dwidmann> dettoaltrimenti: sudo locate -u
[09:16] <dwidmann> dettoaltrimenti: the database is probably out of date
[09:18] <gupta> Do the universe and multiverse apps update if I continue using dapper? Or is it necessary to get edgy for updated repos?
[09:19] <ubuntu> hi
[09:19] <lupine_85> gupta: only necessary updates are put in
[09:20] <lupine_85> new versions, generally not at all
[09:20] <home_> hi.. how do we install bootsplash in kubuntu
[09:22] <gupta> lupine_85: So if Apt-get install filelight installs 'filelight version' there is no way to update it except compiling?
[09:24] <octan> !flash
[09:24] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:24] <lupine_85> gupta: pretty much
[09:24] <gupta> hmmm
[09:25] <lupine_85> some applications get 'backported', which means a later version becomes available. Not many, though
[09:25] <Thehound666> well if anyone knows the answer, I'll be watching, as this makes browsing on my small monitor kind of annoying
[09:25] <zblach> !camera
[09:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about camera - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:25] <lupine_85> you can do requests in the forums
[09:27] <Thehound666> hmm seems I can select things by pushing the mouse wheel button but I can't scroll by moving the wheel up/down
[09:30] <NameNomad> I'm having problems with my cdrw drive, and with any program that tries to use it.  When I put in a cd, most days, and I select a program, it will show it initializing, and then the status icon will go away and the program won't run.  A short time latter my computer will start lagging horribly, and if I leave it for long enough, it will eventually just stop doing anything all together, and I have to restart my computer
[09:31] <NameNomad> does anyone know a solution to that problem (having a cd/cdrw drive not work, or initialize, or something)
[09:34] <mips> Where is all the kde themes&artwork stored ?
[09:35] <thompa> hi, what do u sue to convert flac file to mp3?
[09:35] <thompa> i use*
[09:36] <shang_> bootsplash screen help..
[09:36] <thompa> or any program for making mp3s for my cell phone
[09:37] <shang_> anyone pls guide me to install bootsplash on kubuntu
[09:37] <knapp> How can I install nvidia-settings w/o removing nvidia-glx?
[09:37] <thompa> you dont its already there, type nvidia-settings
[09:37] <thompa> try it
[09:38] <knapp> oops
[09:38] <knapp> haha
[09:38] <knapp> ok tnx
[09:38] <knapp> is 54c hot?
[09:38] <thompa> knapp: no
[09:38] <thompa> someone tell me how to make mp3s?
[09:39] <thompa> im new to music stuff
[09:39] <knapp> my video keeps going out. like the screen will go black, but the monitor is still on. If I let it sit for a minute (cool off) and turn the monitor off and back on, it comes back for a little bit.
[09:39] <thompa> knapp: try disabling power features and screen saver or keep them
[09:40] <thompa> knapp: check your desktop and screen options first
[09:40] <thompa> not sure where they are right now, im in gnome
[09:40] <gradin> i've got a problem and i need help...
[09:40] <gradin> for some reason every time i attempt to burn a dvd my box crashes, hard..
[09:41] <gradin> the kernel panics and everything..
[09:42] <gradin> can anyone help me troubleshoot this problem?
[09:43] <knapp> thompa, I disabled screen saver, but it was set to go on after 5 hours. So I doubt that was it. I don't see any power features anywhere...
[09:45] <mirsh-b> hello. i'm on a live session and i want to install kubuntu. the installer's partition manager tells me i've not assigned a root partition - although i definately have. i've set a good 5 GB ext3 as / and 355 MB swap. what am i supposed to do about it?
[09:47] <NameNomad> how do I disable auto-mounting on my cdrw drive?
[09:47] <mirsh-b> btw, i've had this problem before, but on a different computer and with the live dvd. i've never had any of these problems with hoary, breezy or dapper. is the edgy installer buggy or what?
[09:47] <burner> is a fetchmail cron job the best way to get pop3 mail into a dovecot imap folder?
[09:47] <Wulong> mirsh-b: I've had the same problem too.
[09:47] <Wulong> Don't remember what I did.
[09:47] <Wulong> Check Google for it.
[09:48] <mirsh-b> Wulong: allright, will do
[09:48] <Thehound666> where can I go to troubleshoot my issue? Seems I see many posts about it with no clear answers in Google
[09:49] <thompa> knapp: sorry i got to go, check in control center all features relating to power first
[09:51] <tom__> where are the KDM themes located?
[09:51] <NameNomad> KDE themes?
[09:51] <tom__> kdm
[09:51] <tom__> the login screen
[09:52] <NameNomad> do you want to change them
[09:52] <NameNomad> ?
[09:52] <Thehound666> why am I being ignored? :(
[09:53] <tom__> namenomad: yes
[09:53] <NameNomad> one sec, I've messed with this before
[09:53] <NameNomad> let me find it again
[09:54] <mirsh-b> allright, i solved the problem with "no root filesystem" in the installer. what you need to do is to delete the existing partition where you want / , create it, and then assign partitions. merely checking "format" when assigning partition is not sufficient.
[09:54] <abstruck> Thehound666: what's your problem?
[09:54] <Thehound666> my mouse scroll whell won't work
[09:54] <Thehound666> makes browsing on my small monitor a chore
[09:54] <Thehound666> wheel
[09:55] <soulrider> theres something eating up my processor, how can i find out what process is doing that ?
[09:55] <Thehound666> Googling shows it to be a common question...with no answers
[09:56] <NameNomad> tom_: go into system settings
[09:56] <NameNomad> then click "Desktop"
[09:56] <tom__> ok
[09:56] <NameNomad> then go to Splash Screen
[09:56] <NameNomad> and you can choose what you want
[09:56] <NameNomad> as well as add some
[09:57] <abstruck> Thehound666: paste your xorg.conf (only mouse section)
[09:57] <abstruck> Thehound666: use nopaste or similar
[09:57] <Thehound666> ok let me do a file search
[09:57] <NameNomad> does anyone know how to make my cdrw drive not automount?
[09:57] <abstruck> Thehound666: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:59] <Thehound666> I don't see a mouse section
[10:00] <Thehound666> goes from monitor to screen
[10:00] <abstruck> Thehound666: Section "InputDevice"
[10:01] <Thehound666> Section "InputDevice"
[10:01] <Thehound666> 	Identifier	"Configured Mouse"
[10:01] <Thehound666> 	Driver		"mouse"
[10:01] <Thehound666> 	Option		"CorePointer"
[10:01] <Thehound666> 	Option		"Device"		"/dev/input/mice"
[10:01] <Thehound666> 	Option		"Protocol"		"ps/2"
[10:01] <Thehound666> 	Option		"ZAxisMapping"		"4 5"
[10:01] <Thehound666> 	Option		"Emulate3Buttons"	"true"
[10:02] <robotgeek> Thehound666: please use a pastebin
[10:02] <vge> !pastebin
[10:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:02] <abstruck> [21:57]  <abstruck> Thehound666: use nopaste or similar
[10:03] <NameNomad> do cdrom/cdrw drives always have the owner/group as root?
[10:03] <NameNomad> or can I change that to my main user? (would it affect my use of the drives if it was root?)
[10:03] <Thehound666> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38703/
[10:05] <abstruck> Thehound666: just 5 min, i'm on cellphone
[10:06] <Thehound666> k then I'll brb smoke. The good news is my system seems well configured but for this now
[10:07] <NameNomad> no one knows?
[10:07] <NameNomad> dag
[10:07] <froud> hi, I am looking for libxine-extracodecs mentioned in several of the kubuntu docs, but can't find it in any of the repositories. Anyone know what it may now be called?
[10:07] <NameNomad> you've got "universal" repositor open?
[10:07] <NameNomad> repository*
[10:08] <froud> NameNomad: yes
[10:09] <froud> NameNomad: and Multiverse
[10:09] <NameNomad> type into the search bar "libxine"
[10:09] <NameNomad> and leave it at that
[10:10] <NameNomad> see if it gives it to you
[10:10] <Thehound666> ok
[10:11] <NameNomad> froud: did that work?
[10:11] <NameNomad> it could also be under the "restricted" repository
[10:11] <NameNomad> I don't know if that comes open or not
[10:11] <NameNomad> been a while since i've changed my repositories
[10:12] <froud> NameNomad: not there
[10:12] <froud> NameNomad: btw I am using apt-cache search
[10:12] <NameNomad> do you have adept?
[10:12] <froud> yes
[10:12] <NameNomad> use it
[10:12] <froud> but that also shows no extra codecs
[10:13] <Thehound666> synaptic shows a bunch just be checking the unchecked repositories
[10:13] <Thehound666> just by*
[10:13] <NameNomad> open up adept
[10:13] <NameNomad> and search it from there
[10:13] <NameNomad> if that doesn't work
[10:14] <NameNomad> then you don't have the right repositories open
[10:15] <froud> NameNomad: I have done it in adept and at apt and I uncommented all the repositories in the sources.list
[10:15] <froud> and did an update
[10:15] <froud> are you seeing libxine-extracodecs
[10:15] <max_> can mencoder or ffmpeg turn a avi or mpeg into an mp3? or anyother audio only file
[10:16] <NameNomad> yeah
[10:16] <NameNomad> I have it installed actually
[10:16] <froud> Hmm
[10:16] <NameNomad> do you have "restricted"?
[10:16] <NameNomad> or "main"
[10:16] <NameNomad> put in?
[10:16] <abstruck> Thehound666: try changing mouse protocol from "PS/2" to  "ExplorerPS/2" or "ImPS/2". i don't know if it helps
[10:17] <Thehound666> is reboot needed after?
[10:17] <froud> NameNomad: I have this http://pastebin.ca/291176
[10:20] <NameNomad> froud: line 11
[10:20] <NameNomad> add multiverse to it
[10:20] <abstruck> Thehound666: no, only reboot X server
[10:20] <NameNomad> besides that the only difference is where you're getting your stuff from
[10:20] <NameNomad> I get it from a us site
[10:22] <Thehound666> ok how do I reboot x-server and also I notice an interesting parameter "Emulate3buttons"
[10:22] <Thehound666> it's set to true
[10:22] <froud> NameNomad: sec just updating
[10:23] <froud> NameNomad: thx
[10:23] <froud> sudo apt-cache search libxine-extracodecs
[10:23] <froud> libxine-extracodecs - the xine video/media player library, binary files
[10:23] <NameNomad> no prob
[10:24] <abstruck> Thehound666: try setting it to false, but i don't think it's that the problem
[10:25] <Thehound666> and to reboot X Server?
[10:27] <froud> Anyone got a clue why Amarok will not play streaming media (using Dapper)
[10:28] <NameNomad> does anyone know why my cdrw drive maps to 'system:/media/hdd' instead of '/media/cdrw'?
[10:30] <abstruck> NameNomad: yes, that's a secondary slave master
[10:30] <abstruck> ops master => drive
[10:31] <NameNomad> is there I way I can view all of these connections and options? (probably through Konsole)
[10:33] <NameNomad> (my cd drives have been giving me nothing but problems so far)
[10:33] <abstruck> NameNomad: lshw for example... what kind of problems?
[10:33] <NameNomad> when I put in a blank disc to burn something, and try to start up k3b
[10:33] <NameNomad> it won't work
[10:34] <NameNomad> and eventually will freeze my system
[10:34] <NameNomad> no matter if I try to kill k3b
[10:34] <NameNomad> or not
[10:34] <NameNomad> it won't let me eject the disc
[10:34] <abstruck> try running it within konsole
[10:34] <NameNomad> when that happens
[10:34] <NameNomad> how do you mean?
[10:34] <abstruck> NameNomad: if the cd is mounted there's no way eject the drive...
[10:34] <abstruck> open konsole
[10:34] <abstruck> and type k3b
[10:35] <abstruck> (sorry but my english is all but perfect...)
[10:36] <NameNomad> don't worry about it, this is actually really helpful
[10:37] <NameNomad> http://pastebin.ca/291190
[10:37] <NameNomad> that's what I get back
[10:39] <NameNomad> and then ScimInputContextPlugin()
[10:39] <NameNomad> for whatever reason
[10:42] <Thehound666> lol I crashed the X-server trying to reboot it, but no harm no foul. Thanks for the help. I got my wheel now
[10:43] <Thehound666> mind if I post this on some of the unanwered posts if I get bored?
[10:43] <Thehound666> unanswered*
[10:43] <NameNomad> does anyone know how to get either sox or k3b to recognize .wma files?
[10:43] <cntb> \o all. where is sessions startup programs in kubuntu
[10:44] <NameNomad> because this is really getting on my nerves (I know it's been said before, but I hate windows so much, this is ridulous what i have to do to get a cd to burn right)
[10:44] <abstruck> Thehound666: good
[10:44] <Thehound666> worked for me first time with Blindwrite.
[10:44] <Thehound666> best CD burning proggy IMO for Windows
[10:45] <NameNomad> I'm using kubuntu
[10:45] <NameNomad> but I need to burn a .wma file
[10:45] <abstruck> NameNomad: that error is only wacom entry in the xorg.conf
[10:45] <NameNomad> which is a windows media file
[10:45] <Thehound666> ahhh
[10:46] <Thehound666> thought you were having issues making a Kubuntu CD
[10:46] <NameNomad> no
[10:46] <NameNomad> nah, .iso works fine
[10:46] <NameNomad> I'm trying to make a mix for my sis
[10:46] <abstruck> NameNomad: gotta go...
[10:46] <NameNomad> abstruck: thanks for the help
[10:46] <abstruck> hope you could resolve it
[10:46] <NameNomad> yeah, it'll come around eventually
[10:46] <abstruck> NameNomad: no problem
[10:47] <abstruck> bye guys... merry christmas! :D
[10:47] <Thehound666> He could try making an iso of the files then burning with an iso maker. Has helped me with some dumb DRMed files in Windows.
[10:47] <Thehound666> it might in Linux
[10:47] <Thehound666> wma=DRMed
[10:48] <NameNomad> what dose DRMed stand for?
[10:48] <Thehound666> Digital Rights Management
[10:48] <NameNomad> oh
[10:48] <NameNomad> right
[10:48] <NDPowerBook> The nice people at the media companies have volunteered to manage our digital rights so we don't have to do so ourselves.
[10:48] <Dr_willis> Dumb Restricted Media. :)
[10:48] <Thehound666> maybe these guys can direct you to iso programs for nix
[10:48] <Thehound666> I'm a relative newbie
[10:49] <Dr_willis> I made a batch.. and its... err... chewy.
[10:49] <Dr_willis> Peanut Chewies..
[10:50] <NameNomad> yeah, and now all I have to do is break those "rights"
[10:50] <NameNomad> so I can make them the way they were meant to be
[10:50] <NameNomad> actually right
[10:50] <Dr_willis> 'friends dont let friends use wma's '
[10:50] <NameNomad> especially because the song I'm trying to put on the mix isn't from a cd you can buy anymore
[10:50] <NameNomad> the artist took it out of production, so there's no money being lost
[10:50] <NameNomad> windows just likes to tell it's users what to do
[10:51] <NameNomad> but anyways, I have to go through my library and sample music for this mix
[10:51] <NameNomad> so I'll catch ya'll later
[10:55] <dwidmann> chewy peanut brittle ... that's a new one
[10:56] <Dr_willis> with no peanuts either..
[10:56] <Dr_willis> wife sucks off the brittle and spits out the peanuts.. so i made some with out the nuts.
[11:07] <upd-dapper2edgy> preparing to upd dapper to edgy
[11:07] <upd-dapper2edgy> cd in drive
[11:07] <upd-dapper2edgy> in system:/media/hdd
[11:07] <dwidmann> mmhmmm
[11:07] <burner> upd-dapper2edgy: on a modem or something?
[11:08] <upd-dapper2edgy> modem?
[11:08] <upd-dapper2edgy> meaning fax modem?
[11:08] <upd-dapper2edgy> modem q. not clear
[11:09] <dwidmann> So, you've got the disk in, give it a go upd-dapper2edgy
[11:09] <upd-dapper2edgy> in short https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades gives me following line
[11:10] <upd-dapper2edgy> dwidmann, exactly my point tyvm
[11:12] <upd-dapper2edgy> gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade" ?
[11:12] <upd-dapper2edgy> kdesu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade" maybe too dwidmann ?
[11:13] <dwidmann> gksu won't work if you're using kubuntu, try it with kdesu instead?
[11:13] <upd-dapper2edgy> OK but /cdrom is empty
[11:16] <upd-dapper2edgy> user@pc1ubuntu:/media/hdd$ sh /media/hdd/cdromupgrade
[11:17] <Dr_willis> ive not heard of anyone else using a cdromupgrade script befor...
[11:18] <upd-dapper2edgy> Dr_willis,  reallyyyy?
[11:18] <Dr_willis> !upgrade
[11:18] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[11:18] <Dr_willis> of course I always find a clean-reinstall better. :)
[11:19] <upd-dapper2edgy> iwant everything in place
[11:19] <upd-dapper2edgy> just like many windows upgrades Ihave made
[11:20] <upd-dapper2edgy> Failed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/dists/dapper/non-free/source/Sources.gz 404 Not Found
[11:20] <Dr_willis> PLF site may be down.
[11:20] <upd-dapper2edgy> for long?
[11:20] <upd-dapper2edgy> alternative/
[11:20] <Dr_willis> No idea.  check the plf homepage.
[11:21] <upd-dapper2edgy> plf homepage's uRL woul be which?
[11:21] <Dr_willis> if upgrading to edgy, sond you want the 'edgy' plf repo? not the dapper one?
[11:21] <upd-dapper2edgy> you tell me !
[11:21] <upd-dapper2edgy> apokryphos,  ?
[11:22] <upd-dapper2edgy> Geia sou
[11:22] <Dr_willis> nah.. i got other things to do. :)  plus ive found in the past its much better in the long run for me to do clean installs.
[11:22] <upd-dapper2edgy> good point pls dont repeat
[11:23] <apokryphos> upd-dapper2edgy: ?
[11:23] <Dr_willis> that URL posted above gives the command.......  # cp /etc/apt/sources.{list,list.bak}; sed -i s/dapper/edgy/g /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:23] <upd-dapper2edgy> apokryphos,  cntb linopil etc. ;-)
[11:23] <Dr_willis> chag changes the 'dapper' entrys to edgy.
[11:23] <apokryphos> upd-dapper2edgy: eh?
[11:24] <upd-dapper2edgy> above plus nick says it
[11:24] <apokryphos> !plf
[11:24] <ubotu> PLF is the Penguin Liberation Front. For more info see: http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf. PLF is down indefinitely pending a new maintainer; see http://plf.zarb.org/. see also !seveas
[11:24] <upd-dapper2edgy> pffff
[11:24] <upd-dapper2edgy> tyvm apokryphos
[11:25] <apokryphos> !seveas
[11:25] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:25] <Seveas> !apokryphos
[11:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apokryphos - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:25] <upd-dapper2edgy> so script cdromupgrade on edgy cd to be modified or?
[11:25] <apokryphos> Seveas: just not popular enough :P
[11:25] <apokryphos> Seveas: I bet you regret naming the repository Seveas now :P
[11:26] <thompa> has anyone trying to get nokia phone os open?
[11:26] <thompa> i mean to transfer some contacts and stuff
[11:26] <upd-dapper2edgy> so what is the step by step?
[11:27] <thompa> ive got an infra red on the phone and i can see the memory stick and all the files
[11:27] <apokryphos> Seveas: speaking of which, do you have any stats for your repo? I'm interested =)
[11:27] <apokryphos> upd-dapper2edgy: /msg ubotu repositories
[11:27] <thompa> im just wondering if its possible to try
[11:27] <Seveas> apokryphos, no
[11:28] <thompa> i got the ipod working gread in linux, its even faster but its a 3g
[11:28] <Dr_willis> upd-dapper2edgy,  you donloaded an edgy cdrom and are now trying to upgrade with it? using the script  'cdromupgrade' ?
[11:28] <thompa> i think getting linux on these phones is a good step
[11:28] <upd-dapper2edgy> yes Dr_willis .
[11:29] <upd-dapper2edgy> is that OK?
[11:29] <Dr_willis> upd-dapper2edgy,  and 'which' cdrom did you download?
[11:29] <upd-dapper2edgy> alternate Cd brother Dr_willis  ;-)
[11:29] <Dr_willis> upd-dapper2edgy,  ok. :) that aparently is a BIG issue i jsut saw in the forums.
[11:30] <upd-dapper2edgy> big issue ? that should be some routine
[11:31] <Dr_willis> from a forum post -------->   "You need the Alternate CD. You cannot upgrade from the Desktop CD--only do a clean reinstall with it. "
[11:31] <upd-dapper2edgy> or else ? i cant offer the public i know such solution
[11:31] <Dr_willis> so... err.. what was the problem anyway? i forgot...
[11:31] <upd-dapper2edgy> so i know it I always prefer alternate CD
[11:32] <upd-dapper2edgy> plus I always do dual boot
[11:32] <upd-dapper2edgy> some GRUB MBR some MSWIN MBR
[11:34] <upd-dapper2edgy> ther could a channel for it, should be too. I mean channel for UBUNTU upgrade
[11:34] <upd-dapper2edgy>  .. /join #ubuntu-upgrade
[11:35] <upd-dapper2edgy> let us see what #ubuntu says
[11:36] <Dr_willis> so your whole problem is Finding the cdromupgrade script?
[11:36] <upd-dapper2edgy> sounds like it Dr_willis
[11:37] <upd-dapper2edgy> BTW cdromupgrade on alternateCD. mybe you mean how and what to modify there?
[11:39] <upd-dapper2edgy> let me peep into script mentioned
[11:41] <Dr_willis> bbl......
[11:47] <froud> Where does KDE store the contact database of Kmail?
[11:49] <premier> hello
[11:49] <premier> I swapped the backspace and capslock keys on my computer
[11:50] <premier> but I cant make it permenant-- everytime I reboot, it resets
[11:50] <Danker> Hi
[11:50] <premier> I put the appopriate code in my .XSession file
[11:50] <Danker> Could somebody say freenode server address?
[11:53] <froud> irc.freenode.net
[11:54] <hans> ...einen wunderschnen Heiligabend!
[11:55] <matthew__> !du
[11:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about du - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:55] <matthew__> !de
[11:55] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:55] <upd-dapper2edgy> btw on user's machine still havent solved firefox crashing on flash contenets sites
[11:56] <_fnord> ewige blumenkraft!
[11:56] <_fnord>  how i can make ubuntu look more like kubuntu?
[11:57] <_fnord> my box is just too slow for kubuntu,so im useing ubuntu
[11:58] <froud> found it
[11:59] <_fnord> sorry im back my computer messed up
[12:00] <_fnord> so how can i make ubuntu look more like kubuntu?
[12:00] <vge> install kde?
[12:01] <_fnord> is that kubuntu-desktop?
[12:01] <vge> yup
[12:01] <Captain_Haddock> anyone here using multiple keyboard layouts?
[12:01] <Danker> Thanks ;)
[12:03] <_fnord> vge thatt will slow my computer down as much as kubuntu...
[12:03] <upd-dapper2edgy> Captain_Haddock, alt-shift switches
[12:04] <Captain_Haddock> upd-dapper2edgy: I'm not having switching trouble. I am having issues typing accented characters.
[12:04] <Captain_Haddock> I can type  fine.
[12:04] <vge> _fnord: so what part are you making like kde?
[12:05] <mildner> hi
[12:05] <Captain_Haddock> But when I type  + a I do not get the a with a diacritic.
[12:05] <_fnord> menu bar, window borders
[12:05] <mildner> anybody familiar with dvb ?
[12:05] <_fnord> animated flash screen
[12:05] <upd-dapper2edgy> got that Captain_Haddock
[12:06] <Captain_Haddock> upd-dapper2edgy: You got an accented a in my sentence? :o
[12:06] <upd-dapper2edgy> nope
[12:06] <Captain_Haddock> Perhaps this has something to do with dead keys?
[12:06] <upd-dapper2edgy> charset utf-8
[12:07] <vge> _fnord: i guess i cant help you cos i can't find that big speed differences between these two
[12:07] <towync> does anyone know why my K-menu panel is transparent to background and how do i fix it, pls don't just say go to system settings, appearance, i've looked, and am lost =), need specific instructions thx
[12:07] <Captain_Haddock> upd-dapper2edgy: that should be the current setting.
[12:07] <vge> maby it's better to ask #ubuntu cos there are more gnome user
[12:09] <Captain_Haddock> towync: try right clicking on the panel and select configure.
[12:09] <_fnord> huh you dont?
[12:09] <towync> Captain_Haddock thx, i did tho
[12:09] <upd-dapper2edgy> towync, now on beryl?
[12:09] <_fnord> ubuntu seems to fly for me while kubuntu drags
[12:09] <_fnord> wierd
[12:09] <towync> not on beryl, beryl suckkkkkks, cuz it doesn't work for me lol
[12:10] <_fnord> sucks for me because i lvoe kubuntu
[12:10] <Captain_Haddock> towync: there is a transparency option there for the task bar..
[12:10] <towync> all i get is black screen, it seems to enter beryl when i say beryl, but freezes, does that mean i need a better graphics card (using fx5900) or does it mean i should use xgl instead of aiglx
[12:10] <towync> Captain_Haddock where
[12:11] <towync> as in panel background?
[12:11] <Captain_Haddock> towync: right click panel and select configure panel is what I did.
[12:11] <towync> yeah but a whole lot of things come out right
[12:11] <butchart> hola
[12:11] <towync> like arrangement, hiding, menus, appearance, taskbar
[12:11] <Captain_Haddock> towync: I get a menu on the left, which has a taskbar button.
[12:11] <Captain_Haddock> si
[12:12] <Captain_Haddock> hola butchart
[12:12] <towync> cool i'm on taskbar button
[12:12] <Captain_Haddock> towync: I have beryl working on a 6200 :)
[12:12] <butchart> hola captain... no hay un canal en espaol?
[12:12] <upd-dapper2edgy> towync on appearance
[12:12] <towync> Captain_Haddock is it graphics card related? i thought beryl should work on low hardwares too
[12:12] <upd-dapper2edgy> towync, succeeded ? right?
[12:12] <towync> yeah under appearance, there is panel background
[12:13] <towync> and there's a box enable transparency
[12:13] <Captain_Haddock> butchart: no se.. quizas #ubuntu-es?
[12:13] <towync> it's been off
[12:13] <upd-dapper2edgy> try beryl on ati nvidia and intel
[12:13] <upd-dapper2edgy> go #ubuntu-xgl