| smithj | thanks | 12:12 |
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| cjwatson | in the case of a new upstream, it contains our diff against the corresponding base version in Debian rather than against the previous version in Ubuntu | 12:15 |
| cjwatson | this tends to be more useful if you're just trying to monitor what Ubuntu developers are doing; if you actually want the true diff in Ubuntu every time, contact Scott James Remnant and see if you can work something out | 12:16 |
| smithj | cjwatson: i'm mainly just monitoring | 12:18 |
| smithj | trying to keep abreast of what the major distros are doing, etc | 12:18 |
| cjwatson | good luck keeping up, then :) | 12:20 |
| cjwatson | hmm, interesting, it doesn't pick up on Ubuntu-native packages without *ubuntu* version numbers | 12:22 |
| === cjwatson mails Scott about that; that's kind of annoying for e.g. ubiquity | ||
| Fujitsu | I also note that MoM does funny stuff, like mailing the PTS with `New upstream version' even if it isn't one. | 12:23 |
| cjwatson | Fujitsu: it means upstream relative to Ubuntu, i.e. a new base version from Debian | 12:26 |
| cjwatson | there are multiple levels of upstreamishness in the modern distro world ... | 12:26 |
| Fujitsu | Ah. | 12:26 |
| Fujitsu | OK. | 12:26 |
| cjwatson | I agree the terminology is a bit confusing when mailing Debian lists, though. Do you want to mail Scott and suggest that it should be "New base version" or something? | 12:27 |
| Fujitsu | That sounds better, as it is mailing Debian, and it's not upstream to them. | 12:31 |
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| Seveas | keescook, ping | 12:50 |
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| sladen | mdke: pong? | 01:21 |
| sladen | mdke: could you ask the question you and T` were after, I didn't get the full highlight. | 01:22 |
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| mdke | sladen: I believe mjg59 handled it, it was something about Gnome volume control hotkeys | 01:27 |
| mdke | sladen: sounded like he wanted to implement something similar for xfce | 01:27 |
| sladen | mdke: gotcha, thanks | 01:34 |
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| keescook | Seveas: distant pong. what's up? | 02:17 |
| Seveas | keescook, about the USN RSS feed | 02:18 |
| Seveas | it moved to http://media.ubuntu-nl.org/rss/usn.xml | 02:18 |
| keescook | ah, very cool. People keep asking about one, so I'm gonna send them that way until there is an "official" one. :) thanks! | 02:19 |
| Seveas | keescook, might as well make that one official if you mirror is on *.ubuntu.com or let me upload there ;) | 02:21 |
| Seveas | s/is/it/ | 02:21 |
| keescook | Seveas: yeah, it's a bit out of my hands, though. :) | 02:21 |
| Burgundavia | given the website is currently up for discussion right now, we should be able to do something liek that on the new one | 02:22 |
| bhale | hi all | 02:25 |
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| keescook | Burgundavia: yawp | 02:27 |
| keescook | hiya bhale | 02:27 |
| grimeboy | Since icecast1 is deprecated to the extent that it doesn't receive bugfixes and is a bloated [self censorship] should it not be removed from the repos? | 02:28 |
| grimeboy | WOr should this go in #ubuntu-motu | 02:28 |
| grimeboy | -W | 02:28 |
| grimeboy | +? | 02:28 |
| grimeboy | Assuming yes since it's in universe. Sorry. | 02:29 |
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| avis | merry christmas to all ubuntu developers :) | 03:06 |
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| Burgundavia | lamont: in edgy or feisty? | 03:20 |
| lamont | edgy. | 03:20 |
| lamont | more to the point, how do I trigger /etc/event.d/ttyS1 :) | 03:21 |
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| pluto | Anyone around? | 07:09 |
| Burgundavia | yep | 07:10 |
| pluto | I got told to come here to see if anyone knew about how to fix a make clean error I'm getting | 07:10 |
| pluto | I've removed and reinstalled the headers, but when I go to make clean, I get scripts/Makefile.clean:17: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic/drivers/infiniband/ulp/srp/Makefile: No such file or directory | 07:11 |
| pluto | Any ideas? | 07:13 |
| Burgundavia | nope | 07:13 |
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| tiglionabbit2 | hello. I would like to know what the process is to get a package added to the repositories? | 01:27 |
| tsmithe | tiglionabbit2, look on the wiki | 01:29 |
| tiglionabbit2 | um, what part? | 01:29 |
| tsmithe | hang on | 01:29 |
| tsmithe | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New | 01:29 |
| tiglionabbit2 | what if our request is to update a very old packageL | 01:32 |
| tiglionabbit2 | the ruby interpreter, specifically | 01:32 |
| Chipzz | tiglionabbit2: you file a sync request | 01:35 |
| tiglionabbit2 | and how do I do that? | 01:35 |
| Chipzz | it's somewhere on the wiki | 01:35 |
| Chipzz | but frankly, I can't believe ruby would be *that* much out-of-date? :) | 01:36 |
| tiglionabbit2 | it's two years old | 01:36 |
| tiglionabbit2 | well, 3 now | 01:36 |
| _ion | It's the same version as in Debian. | 01:36 |
| _ion | ruby1.8 | 1.8.5-4ubuntu1 | http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main Sources | 01:37 |
| _ion | ruby1.8 | 1.8.5-4 | http://ftp.fi.debian.org sid/main Sources | 01:37 |
| _ion | In edgy, it's 1.8.4, which isn't very old either. | 01:38 |
| tiglionabbit2 | oh whoops, it's called ruby1.8 | 01:38 |
| tiglionabbit2 | my bad | 01:38 |
| Chipzz | tiglionabbit2: there's even ruby1.9 | 01:40 |
| Chipzz | but then, I'm running feisty; maybe bot on edgy | 01:40 |
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| _ion | 1.9 is the ever-changing development version towards 2.0, it's not intended to be used in production. | 01:42 |
| tiglionabbit2 | why does "ruby" point at the 1.8.2 version? | 01:43 |
| Chipzz | I didn't say he had to; I was just pointing it out to prove that ruby is not out-of-date ;) | 01:43 |
| _ion | It's just a metapackage. dpkg -L ruby, apt-cache depends ruby | 01:43 |
| tiglionabbit2 | oh, you're correct | 01:44 |
| _ion | ...or just apt-cache show ruby :-) | 01:44 |
| Chipzz | tiglionabbit2: for the record, "ruby" points at the "ruby1.8" package , not the 1.8.2 version ;) | 01:44 |
| tiglionabbit2 | weird that it would have the old version number then | 01:44 |
| Chipzz | subtle difference | 01:44 |
| _ion | Its version number doesn't really matter at all. It just happened to be created when the version of Ruby was 1.8.2 | 01:45 |
| tiglionabbit2 | =] thanks | 01:46 |
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| surfbuddy | is it cumpulsory to go through the gparted thing while installing ubuntu ??? | 07:35 |
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| surfbuddy | looks like a bug while trying to install ubuntu - ( installer hangs when i use the set time button ) | 07:36 |
| cjwatson | known | 07:38 |
| cjwatson | gparted> that or autopartitioning, or the alternate install CD | 07:38 |
| cjwatson | hope to get rid of gparted for advanced partitioning once I've finished writing the replacement | 07:38 |
| surfbuddy | whner i press the set time button the installer hangs and i have to reboot or relog to continue | 07:41 |
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| cjwatson | yes, that's known I'm afraid | 07:41 |
| cjwatson | don't do that :-) | 07:41 |
| cjwatson | "Set time..." is just a nicety and it's been too much trouble so I'll probably just remove that button at some point | 07:42 |
| cjwatson | you can always set the time using the usual desktop facilities after installation if necessary | 07:42 |
| surfbuddy | cjwatson, yes .. no problem | 07:42 |
| surfbuddy | cjwatson, another thing.... ( writing ) | 07:42 |
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| surfbuddy | cjwatson, i already have an ext3 formatted parititon on /dev/sda1 | 07:44 |
| surfbuddy | while going through the installer, ( which i forcibly have to ) , i create a ext3 on sda1 and swap on sda6 | 07:44 |
| surfbuddy | but it always throws an error that ext3 format failed ! | 07:45 |
| surfbuddy | can it be something related to the clock speed ( usb 1.1 or usb 2.0 ) | 07:45 |
| cjwatson | no | 07:45 |
| cjwatson | file a bug at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+filebug and attach /var/log/syslog and /var/log/partman | 07:46 |
| cjwatson | this channel is for developer coordination rather than support | 07:46 |
| surfbuddy | would do it. | 07:46 |
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