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jdonghi, Fujitsu :)12:25
jdongguess what I'm prodding you about today? ;-)12:25
FujitsuHi jdong... Oh dear, I've forgotten about that. I shall do it NOW!12:25
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FujitsuSorry about taking such a long time :(12:25
jdonglol :)12:25
jdongdon't sweat it12:26
jdongjava6 rocks btw, it actually makes azureus feel natively fast :)12:26
Fujitsujava6?12:26
jdongand ram usage stays under 60MB now12:26
jdong(sun-java6-jre)12:26
jdongaka Sun Java 1.6.012:26
jdongjust uploaded to Fiesty today12:26
FujitsuOoh.12:26
FujitsuNice.12:26
FujitsuShiny.12:26
jdongyes shiny indeed12:27
FujitsuSo this is needed for both Dapper and Edgy?12:35
tsmitheoooh12:36
tsmithejava6!12:36
tsmitheis it in universe yet?12:36
FujitsuI don't see java6 in the archive... Is it still in NEW?12:36
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FujitsuHey LaserJock.12:38
LaserJockhi Fujitsu12:41
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LaserJockajmitch: around?12:56
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jdongFujitsu / tsmithe: it's there. source pkg sun-java601:08
FujitsuYeah, but the binaries haven't been published yet...01:09
tsmithecool: universe?01:09
FujitsuOr weren't 30 minutes ago.01:09
jdongthat may be01:09
jdongI built them from source for edgy anyway :D01:09
Fujitsuazureus seems to be doing a grand total of... nothing when I try to start it.01:09
Fujitsu(with java5 or gcj)01:09
Fujitsutsmithe, they're non-free, so I doubt it.01:10
tsmithebut the sources!01:10
FujitsuIt hath not been GPLed yet.01:11
tsmitheoh dear01:12
tsmithei thought it had01:12
tsmithesources are on the site, no?01:12
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FujitsuNo.01:13
FujitsuThey have released the sources of phoneME (aka. J2ME), but not J2SE yet.01:13
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tsmitheoh01:14
tsmithedarn01:14
tsmitheanyone except siretart up for revu'age?01:25
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Fujitsu2.5.0.0repack1-0ubuntu1~proposed101:42
LaserJockhaha01:48
jdongFujitsu: did you fix azureus yet?01:50
jdongFujitsu: maybe that's why it isn't working :)01:50
FujitsuIt's test-building...01:51
jdonglol01:51
jdongI was commenting on your earlier comment of azureus doing diddly when launching :)01:51
FujitsuIt's strange, it aborts on Feisty with Sun Java (5 or 6)01:51
FujitsuHeheh.01:51
jdongthat kinda was the original problem ;-)01:51
FujitsuYet gij works fine...01:51
jdongthat's another pseudo-bug01:51
jdongI've noticed...01:51
jdongsome gij-compiled java things only execute with gij01:52
jdongyay for open source proprietary-ness :D01:52
FujitsuHeheh.01:52
LaserJockhhmm, I'm not a big fan of SRU processing01:53
LaserJockhow am I supposed to see the status of packages in -proposed01:53
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FujitsuLaserJock, 144 REVU uploads? I find that unlikely.01:59
LaserJockreally?01:59
LaserJocksome people upload like crazy02:00
FujitsuThere were actually that many!?02:00
FujitsuWow.02:00
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FujitsuImpressive.02:00
LaserJock144 uploads *to* REVU02:00
LaserJockbbiab, dinner02:02
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tenshuyeah the motu school worked pretty good, the ubuntu-fr-classroom project was a big succes02:13
tenshuthanks to gauvain02:14
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FujitsuWow, we're up to date with science merges!02:16
tenshugrats02:17
FujitsuHm, except xmakemol... Darn.02:17
tenshugood night for those around GMT+102:17
tenshubye02:17
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grimeboySince icecast1 is deprecated to the extent that it doesn't receive bugfixes and is a bloated [self censorship]  should it not be removed from the repos?02:29
grimeboyWhat with icecast2 being fairly mature and much more simple.02:30
FujitsuIs icecast1 the package name?02:30
grimeboyNo icecast-server02:30
grimeboyicecast-server should be replace with icecast202:30
Fujitsuicecast-server is still being actively maintained in Debian. They haven't seen fit to remove it...02:31
grimeboySo should I go to #debian-dev02:31
grimeboy?02:31
FujitsuNo.02:31
FujitsuDebian doesn't feel it is appropriate to remove, so it's unlikely to be ideal to remove it from Ubuntu either.02:32
grimeboyUm, or they haven't noticed that it is terrible and obsolete. This is coming from icecast developers.02:32
grimeboy(Not me)02:32
grimeboyI talked to one02:32
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FujitsuAutosync is switched off now, isn't it?02:48
Q-FUNKanybody who also happens to be a DD available to sponsor an upload?02:54
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Fujitsucrimsun: around?03:54
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crimsunhi04:01
crimsun(sorry, I have an email backlog of several thousand unread)04:01
FujitsuOuch.04:02
FujitsuWell, just wondering about that xmakemol merge (it's the only actually outstanding science one). Why was it FTBFSing when building the GL version?04:03
crimsunGLw 04:04
crimsunDebian ships an addition -dev package as part of the mesa source that Ubuntu doesn't04:04
crimsunadditional04:04
crimsuncjwatson mentioned that it was due to lesstif not being in main, among a couple other issues04:05
FujitsuAh, terrific... I really don't like it how we've dropped features from a number of libraries because of things being in universe.04:06
crimsunyeah, it complicates things :/04:06
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FujitsuI've come across a few over the past couple of weeks :(04:06
FujitsuAre you likely to remerge that in the near future, or can I steal it?04:07
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crimsunFujitsu: please feel free to take it04:18
crimsunI'll be in Hong Kong soon and away from Ubuntu until the new year#04:18
FujitsuOK :)04:20
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FujitsuWhy, StevenK?04:22
StevenKBecause I add a bunch of files to burn, and it says the cache directory needs more space.04:23
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StevenKAnd k3b refuses to deal with mp3 and wma04:30
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joejaxxStevenK: 06:46
joejaxxthere is a package you have to install 06:46
joejaxxlibk3b2-mp3 - The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder06:47
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No1VikingI have problems getting my PC, with Kubuntu, connected to my Wireless LAN. I know that it works without problems in Gnome. When trying to set WEP key and Hex it seems it does not save the data and I can't connect. Anywhere else I can put that data so it's permanent, and working, in the system? 08:28
minghuaNo1Viking: support questions should be asked on #ubuntu channel, thanks08:34
Hobbseehey minghua 08:35
minghuahello Sarah08:35
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enycI really _would_ like to be pointed in the right direction for debugging help with non-universe packages....  -motu is not approprioate as this problem is a non-universe package -- https://launchpad.net/bugs/7009811:22
UbugtuMalone bug 70098 in cdrtools "mkisofs doesn't properly convert lower case filenames to upper case" [Undecided,Confirmed]  11:22
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Amaranthenyc: You could diff the two versions and see what changed11:25
Amaranthafaik mkisofs isn't a very actively developed thing so the diff shouldn't be big11:25
tsmithejdong, so you say sun-java6 is in feisty?11:26
enycAmaranth: diff dapper and edgy versions?11:27
enycAmaranth: usinf debdiff on the .dsc along with the .diff.gz and the .tar.gz (may share the .tar.gz if same source ver)11:28
Amaranthyeah11:28
enycAmaranth: ok ive not done this ot compare things... only to make my diff for the patch I have uploaded (https://launchpad.net/bugs/70098)11:30
UbugtuMalone bug 70098 in cdrtools "mkisofs doesn't properly convert lower case filenames to upper case" [Undecided,Confirmed]  11:30
enycerr11:30
enycarcgh11:30
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enycI meant https://launchpad.net/bugs/72602 ;-) -- is wher ihave built a debdiff -- have to get used to reading them11:32
UbugtuMalone bug 72602 in qpsmtpd "qpsmtpd should create /var/run/qpsmtpd in init.d (/var/run/ is tmpfs)" [Medium,Confirmed]  11:32
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enycAmaranth: I have a 1.7mb debdiff ;-)11:40
Amaranth_ouch_11:40
Amaranth!info mkisofs dapper11:40
ubotumkisofs: Creates ISO-9660 CD-ROM filesystem images. In component main, is optional. Version 4:2.01+01a01-4ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 508 kB, installed size 1280 kB11:40
Amaranth!info mkisofs edgy11:40
ubotumkisofs: Creates ISO-9660 CD-ROM filesystem images. In component main, is optional. Version 4:2.01+01a03-5ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 533 kB, installed size 1316 kB11:40
Amaranth2 alpha releases, a debian version, and 2 ubuntu versions difference11:41
enycI see11:41
enycI understand11:41
Amaranthdoesn't sound like it'd be such a large change11:41
enycAmaranth: bah! how annoying!11:41
enycAmaranth: its such a bizarre regression... of one of the simplest things mkisofs is supposed to do as part of creating a simple iso level 111:43
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enycAmaranth: and Im convintced its not a different default setting... ive really read all the command-help etc. bah!11:44
enycAmaranth: erm ... do you think I sohuld start removing patches in the edgy version or try that debian source version with  ubuntu patches?11:53
enycAmaranth: err...  without ubuntu patches11:53
Amaranth*shrug*11:53
enycAmaranth: oh well... thanks for trynig to help ;-)11:56
enycAmaranth: interestingly debian now uses 'genisoimage' fork of mkisofs!  also a new cdrocording program (wodim)11:57
Amaranthenyc: so does feisty11:58
Adri2000!seen geser12:07
ubotuI last saw geser (n=michael@dialin108173.justdsl.de) 12h 28m 24s ago, quiting: "Leaving"12:07
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Adri2000heya geser :)12:16
Hobbseehey Adri2000 12:18
Adri2000hi Hobbsee 12:19
Adri2000geser: libdjconsole 0.1.2 is in the archive http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/libd/libdjconsole/12:21
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geserHi Adri2000 12:29
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Adri2000geser: can you upload djplay? :)12:46
geseryes12:47
Adri2000thanks12:49
geserAdri2000: uploaded01:01
Adri2000great01:03
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Adri2000ajmitch: how come you are subscribed to my wiki page? :p02:07
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imbrandonAdri2000, ajmitch is subscribed to them all03:22
Adri2000all the wiki? :-|03:22
imbrandonyes03:22
Adri2000whow03:23
Hobbseeajmitch: has an insane inbox03:23
YagisanI'll bet03:23
elkbuntulets face it, ajmitch is just insane, period.03:26
Hobbseetrue that03:27
Hobbseehe did come to meet me, so he has to be pretty insane!03:27
elkbuntuhehe03:30
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Yagisaner, I've met you too Hobbsee 03:32
HobbseeYagisan: true.  but you put up with me for less time, so probably arent so insane03:32
elkbuntusorry Yagisan, you've just qualified yourself for insanity as well03:32
Yagisanwoot03:33
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elkbuntumerry christmas :)03:58
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bddebianHeya gang04:16
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chillywillybarry has forked himself off ;)04:27
bddebian2Heh, Merry Christmas chillywilly! :-)04:28
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tenshuyeah my first package has been uploaded in Feisty ! Best Xmas present so far :D06:39
bddebianCongrats and Merry Christmas :)06:43
tenshu=)06:44
tenshumerry christmas too06:44
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nixternalbddebian: boo06:54
bddebianHeya nixternal06:54
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joejaxxis there a way to mirror the ubuntu archive other than debmirror?07:52
ivoksso... fwiw, ningi is released :)07:54
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lupine_85joejaxx: wget if you're feeling brave?08:04
cypherbiosjoejaxx: aptoncd does it and put them all on an CD/DVD08:08
joejaxxlupine_85: lol08:09
joejaxxcypherbios: i actually want it on my hard drive08:09
cypherbiosjoejaxx: right, aptoncd does it08:09
joejaxxi thought you said cd/dvd08:10
cypherbiosjoejaxx: It's going for feisty http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=387008:10
cypherbiosjoejaxx: Yep, but before generate the .iso it'll to your hard drive08:11
joejaxxyeah08:12
joejaxxdoes it have resume like debmirror or wget -c?08:12
cypherbiosjoejaxx: yes, experimentally does :)08:13
cypherbiosjoejaxx: try building from source on revu http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3870, or at the subversion repository08:14
cypherbiosjoejaxx: https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/aptoncd/0.1 aptoncd-0.108:14
cypherbiosjoejaxx: svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/aptoncd/0.1 aptoncd-0.1 :)08:14
joejaxxlol experimentally :)08:15
joejaxxcypherbios: i will but later when my laptop will have a chance to touch the desk08:15
cypherbios:)08:15
cypherbiosjoejaxx: the download repository is experimental, and under development yet, but already woks, principally if you will not put it on an media (but will keep on HD)08:16
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joejaxxcypherbios: oh ok :)08:30
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