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[12:25] <jdong> hi, Fujitsu :)
[12:25] <jdong> guess what I'm prodding you about today? ;-)
[12:25] <Fujitsu> Hi jdong... Oh dear, I've forgotten about that. I shall do it NOW!
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[12:25] <Fujitsu> Sorry about taking such a long time :(
[12:25] <jdong> lol :)
[12:26] <jdong> don't sweat it
[12:26] <jdong> java6 rocks btw, it actually makes azureus feel natively fast :)
[12:26] <Fujitsu> java6?
[12:26] <jdong> and ram usage stays under 60MB now
[12:26] <jdong> (sun-java6-jre)
[12:26] <jdong> aka Sun Java 1.6.0
[12:26] <jdong> just uploaded to Fiesty today
[12:26] <Fujitsu> Ooh.
[12:26] <Fujitsu> Nice.
[12:26] <Fujitsu> Shiny.
[12:27] <jdong> yes shiny indeed
[12:35] <Fujitsu> So this is needed for both Dapper and Edgy?
[12:36] <tsmithe> oooh
[12:36] <tsmithe> java6!
[12:36] <tsmithe> is it in universe yet?
[12:36] <Fujitsu> I don't see java6 in the archive... Is it still in NEW?
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[12:38] <Fujitsu> Hey LaserJock.
[12:41] <LaserJock> hi Fujitsu
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[12:56] <LaserJock> ajmitch: around?
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[01:08] <jdong> Fujitsu / tsmithe: it's there. source pkg sun-java6
[01:09] <Fujitsu> Yeah, but the binaries haven't been published yet...
[01:09] <tsmithe> cool: universe?
[01:09] <Fujitsu> Or weren't 30 minutes ago.
[01:09] <jdong> that may be
[01:09] <jdong> I built them from source for edgy anyway :D
[01:09] <Fujitsu> azureus seems to be doing a grand total of... nothing when I try to start it.
[01:09] <Fujitsu> (with java5 or gcj)
[01:10] <Fujitsu> tsmithe, they're non-free, so I doubt it.
[01:10] <tsmithe> but the sources!
[01:11] <Fujitsu> It hath not been GPLed yet.
[01:12] <tsmithe> oh dear
[01:12] <tsmithe> i thought it had
[01:12] <tsmithe> sources are on the site, no?
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[01:13] <Fujitsu> No.
[01:13] <Fujitsu> They have released the sources of phoneME (aka. J2ME), but not J2SE yet.
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[01:14] <tsmithe> oh
[01:14] <tsmithe> darn
[01:25] <tsmithe> anyone except siretart up for revu'age?
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[01:42] <Fujitsu> 2.5.0.0repack1-0ubuntu1~proposed1
[01:48] <LaserJock> haha
[01:50] <jdong> Fujitsu: did you fix azureus yet?
[01:50] <jdong> Fujitsu: maybe that's why it isn't working :)
[01:51] <Fujitsu> It's test-building...
[01:51] <jdong> lol
[01:51] <jdong> I was commenting on your earlier comment of azureus doing diddly when launching :)
[01:51] <Fujitsu> It's strange, it aborts on Feisty with Sun Java (5 or 6)
[01:51] <Fujitsu> Heheh.
[01:51] <jdong> that kinda was the original problem ;-)
[01:51] <Fujitsu> Yet gij works fine...
[01:51] <jdong> that's another pseudo-bug
[01:51] <jdong> I've noticed...
[01:52] <jdong> some gij-compiled java things only execute with gij
[01:52] <jdong> yay for open source proprietary-ness :D
[01:52] <Fujitsu> Heheh.
[01:53] <LaserJock> hhmm, I'm not a big fan of SRU processing
[01:53] <LaserJock> how am I supposed to see the status of packages in -proposed
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[01:59] <Fujitsu> LaserJock, 144 REVU uploads? I find that unlikely.
[01:59] <LaserJock> really?
[02:00] <LaserJock> some people upload like crazy
[02:00] <Fujitsu> There were actually that many!?
[02:00] <Fujitsu> Wow.
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[02:00] <Fujitsu> Impressive.
[02:00] <LaserJock> 144 uploads *to* REVU
[02:02] <LaserJock> bbiab, dinner
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[02:13] <tenshu> yeah the motu school worked pretty good, the ubuntu-fr-classroom project was a big succes
[02:14] <tenshu> thanks to gauvain
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[02:16] <Fujitsu> Wow, we're up to date with science merges!
[02:17] <tenshu> grats
[02:17] <Fujitsu> Hm, except xmakemol... Darn.
[02:17] <tenshu> good night for those around GMT+1
[02:17] <tenshu> bye
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[02:29] <grimeboy> Since icecast1 is deprecated to the extent that it doesn't receive bugfixes and is a bloated [self censorship]  should it not be removed from the repos?
[02:30] <grimeboy> What with icecast2 being fairly mature and much more simple.
[02:30] <Fujitsu> Is icecast1 the package name?
[02:30] <grimeboy> No icecast-server
[02:30] <grimeboy> icecast-server should be replace with icecast2
[02:31] <Fujitsu> icecast-server is still being actively maintained in Debian. They haven't seen fit to remove it...
[02:31] <grimeboy> So should I go to #debian-dev
[02:31] <grimeboy> ?
[02:31] <Fujitsu> No.
[02:32] <Fujitsu> Debian doesn't feel it is appropriate to remove, so it's unlikely to be ideal to remove it from Ubuntu either.
[02:32] <grimeboy> Um, or they haven't noticed that it is terrible and obsolete. This is coming from icecast developers.
[02:32] <grimeboy> (Not me)
[02:32] <grimeboy> I talked to one
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[02:48] <Fujitsu> Autosync is switched off now, isn't it?
[02:54] <Q-FUNK> anybody who also happens to be a DD available to sponsor an upload?
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[03:54] <Fujitsu> crimsun: around?
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[04:01] <crimsun> hi
[04:01] <crimsun> (sorry, I have an email backlog of several thousand unread)
[04:02] <Fujitsu> Ouch.
[04:03] <Fujitsu> Well, just wondering about that xmakemol merge (it's the only actually outstanding science one). Why was it FTBFSing when building the GL version?
[04:04] <crimsun> GLw 
[04:04] <crimsun> Debian ships an addition -dev package as part of the mesa source that Ubuntu doesn't
[04:04] <crimsun> additional
[04:05] <crimsun> cjwatson mentioned that it was due to lesstif not being in main, among a couple other issues
[04:06] <Fujitsu> Ah, terrific... I really don't like it how we've dropped features from a number of libraries because of things being in universe.
[04:06] <crimsun> yeah, it complicates things :/
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[04:06] <Fujitsu> I've come across a few over the past couple of weeks :(
[04:07] <Fujitsu> Are you likely to remerge that in the near future, or can I steal it?
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[04:18] <crimsun> Fujitsu: please feel free to take it
[04:18] <crimsun> I'll be in Hong Kong soon and away from Ubuntu until the new year#
[04:20] <Fujitsu> OK :)
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[04:22] <Fujitsu> Why, StevenK?
[04:23] <StevenK> Because I add a bunch of files to burn, and it says the cache directory needs more space.
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[04:30] <StevenK> And k3b refuses to deal with mp3 and wma
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[06:46] <joejaxx> StevenK: 
[06:46] <joejaxx> there is a package you have to install 
[06:47] <joejaxx> libk3b2-mp3 - The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder
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[08:28] <No1Viking> I have problems getting my PC, with Kubuntu, connected to my Wireless LAN. I know that it works without problems in Gnome. When trying to set WEP key and Hex it seems it does not save the data and I can't connect. Anywhere else I can put that data so it's permanent, and working, in the system? 
[08:34] <minghua> No1Viking: support questions should be asked on #ubuntu channel, thanks
[08:35] <Hobbsee> hey minghua 
[08:35] <minghua> hello Sarah
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[11:22] <enyc> I really _would_ like to be pointed in the right direction for debugging help with non-universe packages....  -motu is not approprioate as this problem is a non-universe package -- https://launchpad.net/bugs/70098
[11:22] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 70098 in cdrtools "mkisofs doesn't properly convert lower case filenames to upper case" [Undecided,Confirmed]  
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[11:25] <Amaranth> enyc: You could diff the two versions and see what changed
[11:25] <Amaranth> afaik mkisofs isn't a very actively developed thing so the diff shouldn't be big
[11:26] <tsmithe> jdong, so you say sun-java6 is in feisty?
[11:27] <enyc> Amaranth: diff dapper and edgy versions?
[11:28] <enyc> Amaranth: usinf debdiff on the .dsc along with the .diff.gz and the .tar.gz (may share the .tar.gz if same source ver)
[11:28] <Amaranth> yeah
[11:30] <enyc> Amaranth: ok ive not done this ot compare things... only to make my diff for the patch I have uploaded (https://launchpad.net/bugs/70098)
[11:30] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 70098 in cdrtools "mkisofs doesn't properly convert lower case filenames to upper case" [Undecided,Confirmed]  
[11:30] <enyc> err
[11:30] <enyc> arcgh
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[11:32] <enyc> I meant https://launchpad.net/bugs/72602 ;-) -- is wher ihave built a debdiff -- have to get used to reading them
[11:32] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 72602 in qpsmtpd "qpsmtpd should create /var/run/qpsmtpd in init.d (/var/run/ is tmpfs)" [Medium,Confirmed]  
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[11:40] <enyc> Amaranth: I have a 1.7mb debdiff ;-)
[11:40] <Amaranth> _ouch_
[11:40] <Amaranth> !info mkisofs dapper
[11:40] <ubotu> mkisofs: Creates ISO-9660 CD-ROM filesystem images. In component main, is optional. Version 4:2.01+01a01-4ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 508 kB, installed size 1280 kB
[11:40] <Amaranth> !info mkisofs edgy
[11:40] <ubotu> mkisofs: Creates ISO-9660 CD-ROM filesystem images. In component main, is optional. Version 4:2.01+01a03-5ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 533 kB, installed size 1316 kB
[11:41] <Amaranth> 2 alpha releases, a debian version, and 2 ubuntu versions difference
[11:41] <enyc> I see
[11:41] <enyc> I understand
[11:41] <Amaranth> doesn't sound like it'd be such a large change
[11:41] <enyc> Amaranth: bah! how annoying!
[11:43] <enyc> Amaranth: its such a bizarre regression... of one of the simplest things mkisofs is supposed to do as part of creating a simple iso level 1
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[11:44] <enyc> Amaranth: and Im convintced its not a different default setting... ive really read all the command-help etc. bah!
[11:53] <enyc> Amaranth: erm ... do you think I sohuld start removing patches in the edgy version or try that debian source version with  ubuntu patches?
[11:53] <enyc> Amaranth: err...  without ubuntu patches
[11:53] <Amaranth> *shrug*
[11:56] <enyc> Amaranth: oh well... thanks for trynig to help ;-)
[11:57] <enyc> Amaranth: interestingly debian now uses 'genisoimage' fork of mkisofs!  also a new cdrocording program (wodim)
[11:58] <Amaranth> enyc: so does feisty
[12:07] <Adri2000> !seen geser
[12:07] <ubotu> I last saw geser (n=michael@dialin108173.justdsl.de) 12h 28m 24s ago, quiting: "Leaving"
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[12:16] <Adri2000> heya geser :)
[12:18] <Hobbsee> hey Adri2000 
[12:19] <Adri2000> hi Hobbsee 
[12:21] <Adri2000> geser: libdjconsole 0.1.2 is in the archive http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/libd/libdjconsole/
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[12:29] <geser> Hi Adri2000 
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[12:46] <Adri2000> geser: can you upload djplay? :)
[12:47] <geser> yes
[12:49] <Adri2000> thanks
[01:01] <geser> Adri2000: uploaded
[01:03] <Adri2000> great
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[02:07] <Adri2000> ajmitch: how come you are subscribed to my wiki page? :p
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[03:22] <imbrandon> Adri2000, ajmitch is subscribed to them all
[03:22] <Adri2000> all the wiki? :-|
[03:22] <imbrandon> yes
[03:23] <Adri2000> whow
[03:23] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: has an insane inbox
[03:23] <Yagisan> I'll bet
[03:26] <elkbuntu> lets face it, ajmitch is just insane, period.
[03:27] <Hobbsee> true that
[03:27] <Hobbsee> he did come to meet me, so he has to be pretty insane!
[03:30] <elkbuntu> hehe
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[03:32] <Yagisan> er, I've met you too Hobbsee 
[03:32] <Hobbsee> Yagisan: true.  but you put up with me for less time, so probably arent so insane
[03:32] <elkbuntu> sorry Yagisan, you've just qualified yourself for insanity as well
[03:33] <Yagisan> woot
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[03:58] <elkbuntu> merry christmas :)
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[04:16] <bddebian> Heya gang
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[04:27] <chillywilly> barry has forked himself off ;)
[04:28] <bddebian2> Heh, Merry Christmas chillywilly! :-)
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[06:39] <tenshu> yeah my first package has been uploaded in Feisty ! Best Xmas present so far :D
[06:43] <bddebian> Congrats and Merry Christmas :)
[06:44] <tenshu> =)
[06:44] <tenshu> merry christmas too
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[06:54] <nixternal> bddebian: boo
[06:54] <bddebian> Heya nixternal
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[07:52] <joejaxx> is there a way to mirror the ubuntu archive other than debmirror?
[07:54] <ivoks> so... fwiw, ningi is released :)
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[08:04] <lupine_85> joejaxx: wget if you're feeling brave?
[08:08] <cypherbios> joejaxx: aptoncd does it and put them all on an CD/DVD
[08:09] <joejaxx> lupine_85: lol
[08:09] <joejaxx> cypherbios: i actually want it on my hard drive
[08:09] <cypherbios> joejaxx: right, aptoncd does it
[08:10] <joejaxx> i thought you said cd/dvd
[08:10] <cypherbios> joejaxx: It's going for feisty http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3870
[08:11] <cypherbios> joejaxx: Yep, but before generate the .iso it'll to your hard drive
[08:12] <joejaxx> yeah
[08:12] <joejaxx> does it have resume like debmirror or wget -c?
[08:13] <cypherbios> joejaxx: yes, experimentally does :)
[08:14] <cypherbios> joejaxx: try building from source on revu http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3870, or at the subversion repository
[08:14] <cypherbios> joejaxx: https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/aptoncd/0.1 aptoncd-0.1
[08:14] <cypherbios> joejaxx: svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/aptoncd/0.1 aptoncd-0.1 :)
[08:15] <joejaxx> lol experimentally :)
[08:15] <joejaxx> cypherbios: i will but later when my laptop will have a chance to touch the desk
[08:15] <cypherbios> :)
[08:16] <cypherbios> joejaxx: the download repository is experimental, and under development yet, but already woks, principally if you will not put it on an media (but will keep on HD)
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[08:30] <joejaxx> cypherbios: oh ok :)
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