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un_operateurUPC, aptitude is easier to type out -- apti<TAB> as opposed to apt-g<TAB> for apt-get :)12:01
PeloI have a full copy of my /home/user folder on an other drive,  how would I go about restorring my evolution setting,  just copying over the folders in the user dir doesn'T seem to work12:01
malikeyeLjL: cool, I have to do some more reading about the debian package mgmt stuff.... usually it's either portage or rpm for me12:01
blinxhm12:01
malikeyePelo: are you copying the .* stuff too ?12:02
PriceChildblinx, sudo aptitude install python2.512:02
blinxun_operateur: but now a lot of packages I need will be removed12:02
malikeyecp * doesn't copy the hidden stuff12:02
berzoidI have a dualboot here and need to have a data partition to which both windows and ubuntu can write. would you advise me to make it FAT32, ext3 with the ext3 driver installed in windows or NTFS with the beta driver for NTFS write acces on ubuntu?12:02
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Pelomalikeye , yes12:02
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un_operateurblinx, well, there you go -- you have your warning12:02
cactus_sedientoanybody knows how to set firestarter for loading on startup? obvius ways failed in my hands....12:02
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malikeyePelo: you try rsync ?12:02
Pelohmmm12:02
OkinawaInstructoberzoid: i would suggest using fat32, windows does not see ext312:02
malikeyeI always use rsync in place of cp :)12:03
malikeyelooks cooler12:03
PriceChildcactus_sediento, add it so system>preferences>sessions as "gksudo synaptic"12:03
berzoidthere is a ext3 driver for windows12:03
thoreauputiccactus_sediento: it loads by default - you just don't see the admin GUI :)12:03
un_operateurblinx, too many packages depend on 2.4 (and its a pity debian/ubuntu still have problems with multiple versions of packages)12:03
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ifwrhas anyone successfully changed the output directory for abcde?12:03
IndyGUnFreakthere are so many questions here regarding upgrading Ubuntu, or roblems upgrading ubuntu, etc.12:03
thoreauputiccactus_sediento: see /etc/init.d/firestarter12:03
PriceChildcactus_sediento, remember that the firewall starts when you boot. And firestarter only monitors things12:03
IndyGUnFreakIt makes me know i made the right choice with a back up and a clean install.12:03
Pelomalikeye,  I didn'T need to do it for the other folders,  and I don'T honestly know how to use it12:03
cactus_sedientothanks Price....12:03
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un_operateurfirestarter is just a configuration frontend to iptables -- it doesnt monitor anything12:04
OkinawaInstructoberzoid: ah, something learn something new every day... i would still suggest using fat3212:04
normmaccan anyone help me enable my wireless care without the Fn key?12:04
IndyGUnFreakhas anyone figured out how to change default icons for a certain file type yet?12:04
madman91how can i install wine.. i cant find it in any repos... their repo doesnt work.... what do i do12:04
IndyGUnFreaki've racked my brain, and crashed google looking, but i can't find it.12:04
thoreauputicun_operateur: well, it shows hits etc in the GUI12:04
malikeyePelo: so 'ls -la ~ | grep -i evo' returns nothing ?12:04
berzoidactually, there is an ext2 driver for windows, but ext3 is backwards compatible, http://e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net/12:04
PriceChildun_operateur, yeah i know sorry, just can't think how to explain it more easily12:04
IndyGUnFreakmadman, are you sure?12:04
Goshawhen i do hidd --serach it wont find anything, but when i do hcitool --search it does .. what is the difference?12:04
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Pelomalikeye,  , you just lost me12:04
cactus_sedientoi like to have a visual thing that tells me that a packet has been blocked....12:04
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blinxif I want to install clearsilver it wants to install python2.4 automatically12:05
blinxhm12:05
Goshahcitool san*12:05
malikeyerun that command12:05
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OkinawaInstructoberzoid: thanks for the site12:05
un_operateurIndyGUnFreak, yes .. download your favourite icon theme and change the one for .mp3 -- repackage and import using gnome-theme-manager12:05
blinxhave I to install it from src?12:05
Pelomalikeye,   I draged folders from one location to the other12:05
malikeyehaha12:05
malikeyeok12:05
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IndyGUnFreakbut hten thats gonna change all the other icons i have12:05
berzoidno thanks okinawainstructo12:05
malikeyeifwr: my abcde.conf contains : OUTPUTDIR="DIR"12:05
ub12ifwr yes change the abcde.conf file12:05
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normmacPrice Child, you said earlier that i didn't need the Fn key to enable my wireless how can i do it?12:06
un_operateurIndyGUnFreak, not if you download the same icon theme you are currently using ..12:06
malikeyePelo: you know how to use a shell ?12:06
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Pelomalikeye,  this is what I get drwxr-xr-x  8 jean jean    4096 2006-12-23 18:04 .evolution12:06
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IndyGUnFreakno, i mean its gonna change the Home directory icon, etc12:06
malikeyeok, so it's there12:06
Pelomalikeye,  barely12:06
cactus_sedientoprice are you sure is "gksudo synaptic" the comand? i tried before with "gksudo firestarter" but it did not remaind as a service....a bug?12:06
ifwrI have done that but it never seems to work, I have tried absolute directories, relative directories, and it just says it cannot move "no such file or directory"12:06
IndyGUnFreakwell, i guess i could just go back and change those back.12:06
dv_hi12:06
malikeyeifwr: mine is an absolute12:06
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dv_anyone knows how to record audio output from other programs?12:06
dv_that is, PCM as record input12:07
mojojojo__hi!, my Ubuntu sometimes painfully slows down. Do you know what might be the cause? It's not CPU that slows down12:07
malikeyeifwr: stoopid question... does the directory you are targeting exist ?12:07
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zOrKhow can I share internet with pc 2 running on ubuntu?12:07
LjL!info vsound | dv_12:07
ubotuvsound: Virtual loopback sound recorder and real audio converter. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6-4 (edgy), package size 14 kB, installed size 108 kB12:07
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ifwrmalikeye, I have tried both ways12:07
madman91how can i install wine.. i cant find it in any repos... their repo doesnt work.... what do i do12:07
un_operateurcactus_sediento, you probably need this first -- sudo aptitude install iptables firestarter12:07
LjL!info wine | madman9112:07
ubotuwine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB12:07
IndyGUnFreaki think i see what you're saying unopp..12:07
Flannelmadman91: wine is in universe12:07
LjLUbotu, tell madman91 about universe | madman91, see the private message from Ubotu12:07
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Gosha!hcitool12:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hcitool - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:08
mojojojo__madman91, go to their page and look for installation guid for Ubuntu12:08
Gosha!hidd12:08
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hidd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:08
Pelomadman91,   www.winehq.org, follow the links to download,  there are ubu packages12:08
Goshatsch12:08
LjL!fishing | Gosha12:08
ubotuGosha: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...12:08
malikeyeifwr: and the dir is there and the permssions are open for your user ?12:08
juanoanyone know about routing??12:08
eimajenthatHey, I'm running edgy eft for x86 on my Athlon64 3000+.  What would be the advantages of moving to the 64-bit version?12:08
ifwrthe directory is home/user/media/mp3/12:08
un_operateur!anybody | juano12:08
ubotujuano: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?12:08
malikeyedrop the trailing /12:08
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mojojojo__sooo, anyone can help me how to get to know what slows down my computers?12:09
malikeyeadd a / to the front12:09
mojojojo__computer*12:09
madman91Pelo: no .. i tried their repos12:09
madman91Flannel: i cant find it .. i have universe12:09
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ifwrmalikeyey, You are right, it has been /home/user/media/mp312:09
rpedromadman91: you did sudo apt-get update ?12:09
Pelomadman91,  go to the botom of the ubu page in winehq and you will have a link to a page with archive deb packages12:09
malikeyemojojojo__: this the question about the hang every 10 seconds ?12:09
steve_What's the question about routing?12:09
madman91LjL: i cant find them .. and i have universe enabled12:09
Flannelmadman91: then you don't really have universe.12:09
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Flannelmadman91: have you updated your cache since adding it?12:09
LjLmadman91: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list12:09
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malikeyeifwr: and that directory is there ? mkdir -p /home/user/media/mp312:10
madman91Pelo: why arhive?12:10
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madman91Pelo: archive ?12:10
TOR_CNRhi12:10
timo901!pastebit12:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pastebit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:10
ifwryeah, the directory is there12:10
timo901!pastebin12:10
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)12:10
madman91i updated apt list12:10
malikeyewhat is the permissions on it ?12:10
mojojojo__malikeye sth like that, it sometimes happens that the whole system or particular app hangs12:10
IntelligitimateThis MP4 file I am trying to play in VLC media player is blurry. What gives?12:10
mojojojo__malikeye, for a couple of secs12:11
TOR_CNRI found that the display is occasionally shifted by 1px left or right. any idea what might cause this?12:11
Pelomadman91,  if the repos and apt get don'T do it for you,  the archives are a solution,  easy .deb package for dl and install12:11
malikeyeifwr: it should fail with a perm denied if they are wrong, but....12:11
ifwrwhen abcde first starts it complains: "/etc/abcde.conf: line 194: /hoome/user/media/mp3: is a directory"12:11
malikeyemojojojo__: vidcard ?12:11
madman91http://madman91.pastebin.ca/29036812:11
FlannelPelo: except if you install it manually, you basically get none of the benefits of package management (updates, etc)12:11
malikeyepastebin your abcde.conf ifwr if you can12:11
dv_hm, vsound doesnt work.12:11
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dv_well, ok, ALSA is used, not OSS..12:11
Flannelmadman91: you're missing a newline around line 1512:12
mojojojo__malikeye, nvidia12:12
Frajhi how can i play .wmv files in ubuntu?12:12
LjLmadman91: oh dear. scrap that completely12:12
Pelomadman91,  http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb12:12
LjLUbotu, tell madman91 about easysource | madman91, see the private message from Ubotu12:12
malikeyemojojojo__: using the open source or proprietary driver ?12:12
malikeyeis your mouse setup correctly ?12:12
malikeyedoes the box peg when it hangs ?12:12
juanoubotu: i got DHCP ok, SMB ok, eth0 192.168.1.1 internet / eth 1 192.168.0.2 other PC, other PC no internet12:12
madman91LjL: that is in german.. or some foreign language12:13
ifwrmalikeye, http://pastebin.com/84397112:13
mojojojo__malikeye, the one from synaptic repository, I guess it's open source12:13
juanoubotu: i tried iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT, no luck12:13
malikeyeyeah, can you try the proprietary drivers ?12:13
malikeye!nvidia12:13
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:13
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IntelligitimateThis MP4 file I am trying to play in VLC media player is blurry. What gives?12:13
Frajanyone?12:13
ubek_HI12:13
ub12juano uboto is a bot not a person12:13
ubek_i have problem on ubuntu 6.0612:13
blinxI can't find any python-subversion12:13
LjLmadman91: oh... it's down12:13
blinxsrc12:13
madman91Flannel: is that causing any problems?12:14
juano:P12:14
madman91LjL: so ?12:14
madman91LjL: can you send me yours12:14
LjLmadman91: mine is for Edgy12:14
malikeyeifwr: what was that line it errors on ? 129 ?12:14
ubek_its like system is haltinng for 4-5 sec and then i can work again12:14
juanoubl2: can you help me??12:14
ubek_its anoying12:14
madman91LjL: i can just replace edgy with dapper12:14
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mojojojo__malikeye, ok, I'll try12:14
ifwr19412:14
ub12ifwr try using " instead of '12:14
malikeyeifwr: why are you using backticks as apostrophes ?12:15
ubek_u know sth about this?12:15
LjLmadman91: guess so. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38586/12:15
juano ubl2: i got DHCP ok, SMB ok, eth0 192.168.1.1 internet / eth 1 192.168.0.2 other PC, other PC no internet12:15
ifwrthat's how they were in the default settings file12:15
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steve_what's the output of the command "route"?12:15
IndyGUnFreakun_operateur:  when I try to install a theme, it sends me around looking for a file... what file am i looking for?12:15
ifwrIll try chaning them12:15
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malikeyePelo: which did you move ?12:15
avishow do you change the gnome splashscreen in edgy ?12:15
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Pelomalikeye,  the first one I started with,  but I went back and move the content instead of the folder12:16
un_operateurIndyGUnFreak, a theme file as tar.gz/bz2 i think12:16
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TOR_CNRI found that the display is occasionally shifted by 1px left or right. any idea what might cause this?12:16
ub12juano I am not a network person sorry12:16
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malikeyehmm, not sure I understand that but, as long as it works :)12:16
juanoubl2: ok12:16
IndyGUnFreakok.12:16
un_operateurIndyGUnFreak, have a look a www.gnome-look.org -- you can download icon themes from there12:16
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kd7swhcan anyone help me compile ffmpeg?12:16
cyphaseavis: you could install gnome-splashscreen-manager12:16
zOrKhow can I share internet with pc 2 running on ubuntu?12:16
zOrKhow can I share internet with pc 2 running on ubuntu?12:16
Pelomalikeye,  I realy hate it when stuff like that works,   this was not the first time but I was sure I had done it already12:16
cyphaseavis: and gnome-art makes a good match12:17
LjLmadman91: wait... mine's not good, either. i don't have edgy-updates enabled for universe and multiverse. (also, -backports aren't particularly recommended)12:17
LjL!repeat | zOrK12:17
ubotuzOrK: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience12:17
madman91LjL: fine12:17
LjLUbotu, tell zOrK about firewall | zOrK, see the private message from Ubotu12:17
ubek_HEY ANYBODY CAN HELP ME?12:17
madman91!patience12:17
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines12:17
ifwrmalikeye, there is also an error on line 137: -b command not found, do I have to put the lame options in quotes?12:17
malikeyeubek_: if you shut your caps off :)12:17
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thoreauputic!caps| ubek_12:17
ubotuubek_: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.12:17
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madman91does anyone have a good dapper repo list ?12:17
malikeyeifwr: you need to put " 's in there too12:18
ubek_ubotu: u can help me ;] 12:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about u can help me ;]  - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:18
thoreauputic!easysource12:18
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic.  It does not currently support Edgy sources.  When asked if it will, the reply was "maybe".12:18
dv_argh12:18
LjLUbotu, tell ubek_ about bot | ubek_, see the private message from Ubotu12:18
dv_audacity would do well, but it is oss-based12:18
ubek_ubotu: its very anoying problem12:18
ifwrok, Ill try that (ripping again to test)12:18
dv_anyone knows an alternative to audacity which uses alsa?12:18
thoreauputicubek_: ubotu is a bot12:18
malikeyeubek_: ubotu is a service ID12:18
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cyphasedv_: take a look at jokosher12:18
ubek_ok ;] 12:18
Peloubek_,  uboto is a pain12:18
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ubek_eeeh12:18
malikeyeubek_: just ask, if someone knows they will chime in12:19
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ubek_ok so problem is sth like system is halting for 4-5 sec after that i can work 4-5 minutes and the problem is going on12:19
ubek_i have laptop12:19
ubek_so mayby this could be a clue12:19
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Peloubek_,  turn on the system monitor and see what is eating up your cpu /mem12:20
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IntelligitimateThis MP4 file I am trying to play in VLC media player is blurry. What gives?12:20
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cyphaseIntelligitimate: maybe the file is just blurry12:20
malikeyeIntelligitimate: you try  other platers ?12:20
malikeyeplayers even12:20
wastrel!pl12:21
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl12:21
IntelligitimateNo.12:21
cafuego_Intelligitimate: are you scaling it at all? what resolution is the file? What bitrate?12:21
IndyGUnFreakok unoperator, those themes, are just basically folders to download.12:21
IntelligitimateI don't know.12:21
blinxcu12:21
malikeyeIntelligitimate: if the file know good ?12:21
blinxby12:21
IntelligitimateI think it is.12:21
malikeyes/know/known/12:21
malikeyehaha12:21
IndyGUnFreaki have the icon i wan, problem is, i want to apply it to one icon, then make all the icons of that file type, that icon.12:21
ubek_Pelo: i dont hawe cpu command12:21
malikeyethat would be unknown then12:21
malikeyehaha12:21
IndyGUnFreakmaybe i'm just not understanding what you're saying, but all those, just have .ico and png files12:21
malikeyeIntelligitimate: I would try a different player or a different machine to test the file12:21
Peloubek_,   system >admin > system monitor12:21
cafuego_how's it look on the ipod?12:22
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ifwrmalikeye, Thanks a bunch, that fixed the directory problem!  But putting the lame options in quotes only made the other error  line 137: -b 160 -m ......: command not found.  Any thoughts?12:22
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ubek_lol its sth like12:23
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malikeyeifwr: paste your new one12:23
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un_operateurIndyGUnFreak, the themse are not folders -- they are compressed files as tar.gx i think12:23
ubek_Pelo: on 1 sec from cpu use from 8% its grow to 100%12:23
ubek_;] 12:23
IntelligitimateThe file plays, the sound is ok, but the video is blurry. You can tell what is sorta happenign though.12:23
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IntelligitimateI am thinking it is just some kind of setting problem in VLC.12:23
IndyGUnFreakbut when you extract them, they ar esimply folders.12:23
cafuego_Intelligitimate: try it with a different player12:23
malikeyeIntelligitimate: are you talking blurry as in macro blocking or whatever it is ? or is the whole screen out of focus ?12:23
Peloubek_,  which process12:24
IndyGUnFreakand when i try to9 choose them as a theme, it says it san invalid filetype12:24
IntelligitimateUm, I can tell what is happening.12:24
IntelligitimateBut not really.12:24
cafuego_Intelligitimate: do a screenshot and post that12:24
un_operateurIndyGUnFreak, so what you need to do is download one -- extract all the files - change the ones you want - compress back into an tar.gz archive - and then import them into the theme manager for use12:24
ifwrmalikeye, http://pastebin.com/843976 (at line 137)12:24
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ubek_Pelo: no one12:24
un_operateurimport it*12:24
joe_hello :)12:24
Dante123hi all.....installing Ubuntu as we speak.......onto its own partition......I already have Windoze XP in one partition.....and Puppy Linux in another...with grub bootloader already working for those two OS'es......will Ubuntu wipe out my old grub or will the entries for the other os's still be there when I reboot?12:24
malikeyeifwr: remove the space for the hell of it12:24
IndyGUnFreakwhy does it have to be that difficult?12:25
malikeyebetween the = and the "12:25
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IntelligitimateIs this a normal problem? My computer isn't very good, does MP4 take a lot of processing power or something?12:25
ifwryou can't be serious, THAT is causing the problem?12:25
ifwrwow12:25
Peloubek_,  click the cpu column header to order the process in order of the cpu usage and keep watching what happens12:25
malikeyeno idea, but it's worth a shot12:25
cafuego_Intelligitimate: Try a different player or post a screenshot.12:25
ifwrheh, ok12:25
malikeyelame is in your path ?12:25
cafuego_Intelligitimate: We're all just guessing here12:25
joe_anyone know how to activate middle mouse scrolling in firefox?12:25
IntelligitimateI don't have a different player that can play MP4.12:25
cafuego_Intelligitimate: mplayer plays 'em fine12:25
FlannelDante123: the other OSs will be there.  If youre installing from the Desktop CD, I'm not sure if ubuntu will reinstall grub or not12:25
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IntelligitimateDoes mplayer come with Ubuntu?12:26
Dante123yes, I am using Desktop CD12:26
thoreauputicjoe_: ? it works by default - do you mean smooth scrolling?12:26
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malikeyejoe_: add Option   ZAxisMapping "4 5" to your xorg.conf12:26
IndyGUnFreakIntelligitimate, i think so, if it doesn't, its in the repos i'm sure12:26
cafuego_Intelligitimate: you can install it from the repos, yes12:26
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baconbaconDante123: My guess is grub will be reinstalled, you confirm it at the last installation step12:26
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cafuego_the default is xine only12:26
un_operateurIndyGUnFreak, right now, thats the only way i know possible -- maybe you can check which theme is used in your gnome-theme-manager -- and then browse to the icons directory in /usr/share/icons looking for the mp3 icon12:26
joe_no i just mean normal up down thor. will that sort is malikeye?12:26
malikeyeifwr: 'which lame' ?12:26
gilii need help12:26
baconbaconDante123: before actually _installing_12:26
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webmarenI can't load sites from a certain set of servers and nobody else who uses them reports this problem12:26
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s0xtechhi ich hab nen problem12:27
Dante123also.....I already had a linux-swap file for Puppy Linux......512mb.....will it work for both OS'es?12:27
cafuego_!de > s0xtech12:27
s0xtechbeim instakken12:27
thoreauputic!de12:27
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de12:27
malikeyejoe_: not sure what you are talkin about... you can scroll now ? or no12:27
baconbaconDante123: swap partition or file12:27
gilii have edgy installed here on a Toshiba M40X laptop12:27
paoloHi. I use kubuntu edgy 6.10. I can't find mplayer in source.list.... where is it?12:27
ubek_Pelo: its too many of procees i cant wath them all12:27
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gilii am trying to get the built in card reader recongnized12:27
joe_malikeye it works in everything else, just not firefox12:27
giliany ideas?12:27
mjrDante123, yeah. You don't want to suspend the other OS to it and then boot the other one, though.12:27
cafuego_paolo: It's in 'multiverse'.12:27
malikeyeifwr: you need to remove the LAME=lame from the # Paths of programs blah blah blah ....12:27
Peloubek_,  the offending process will jump to the top of the list if you clicked the cpu column header12:28
malikeyejoe_: gotcha... dunno I've never seen it not work in one app only12:28
Dante123You mean that if I log off properly and reboot into either Linux distro....the same swap file will work for both right?12:28
mjrDante123, yes12:28
pjm123Hello.  Can anyone help my get a USB wireless card (Net Gear MA111) working on my newly installed Linux 5.10 computer?  I'm a newbie, so I would need someone to explain clearly and patiently.  Thank you.12:28
Peloubek_,  just use your computer normaly and when it does slow down , have a look and see which process is on top12:28
Dante123thanks12:28
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malikeyeifwr: just comment it out, or add the absolute path12:28
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webmarenI cannot ping the site either, so it isn't a browser problem12:28
joe_yes malikeye i know, its very odd12:29
cafuego_there are lots of sites that works fine but can't be pinged.12:29
juanowhats root password in ubuntu 6.10?? installation never told me for a root pass12:29
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IndyGUnFreakdoesn't have one juano12:29
thoreauputic!root > juano12:29
cafuego_juano: the root account is disabled.12:29
chorsejuano: none, use sudo to become root.12:29
webmarencafuego_: but I can't access it in the browser12:29
Flanneljuano: there is no root password, root is disabled, use sudo instead.12:29
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baconbacon!root12:29
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.12:29
cafuego_webmaren: what site?12:29
juanoyeah i try sudo gedit forward12:29
juanobut it wont let me save12:30
ifwrmalikeye, That was it, the one stupid space.  Thank you very much, you have been a spectacular help12:30
joe_ah well, see ya in a bit guys12:30
Flannelchorse: sudo doesn't make you root,12:30
ubek_Pelo: in theory yes but not in this case ;] 12:30
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baconbacon!gksudo12:30
ubotuIf you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using "sudo <GUI-application>"12:30
webmarencafuego: any proboards site, such as http://support.proboards.com12:30
ubek_Pelo:  its just halting12:30
juanoi wanna become root12:30
malikeyeifwr: thanks, I'll send you my bill :)12:30
juanohow do i?12:30
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paolocafuego thnks12:30
Peloubek_,  is the best I can do for you12:30
ifwr:)12:30
webmarencafuego: it works most of the time12:30
baconbaconjuano,12:30
baconbacon!gksudo > juano12:30
chorseFlannel: he tries su so he must know sudo + su.12:30
webmarencafuego: but I get random downtime that nobody else experineces12:30
ubek_Pelo: thx12:31
ub12juano the sudo password is the same as the password of the first user created12:31
thoreauputicjuano: you've had about 5 urls thrown at you to read about it :)12:31
Flannelchorse: su is not the same as sudo.  And the latter does not make you root.12:31
ericperssonI'm trying to install ubuntu server from a alternate cd onto a hp dl360, but after pushing enter from the main install menu, i get a blank black screen after a while, any idea why?12:31
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chorseFlannel: "sudo su -".12:31
malikeyeFlannel: it could though :)12:31
juanoi put it in and it rejects12:31
cafuego_webmaren: Hmm. your ip isn't in a bogon range as fara s I can tell...12:31
thoreauputicjuano: *sigh* read the wiki URL you were given12:32
max_where do i go to see how much ram i have?12:32
IntelligitimateIs mplayer a terminal application?12:32
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IndyGUnFreakIntelligitimate:  no12:32
LjLUbotu, tell Gosha|Away about away | Gosha|Away, see the private message from Ubotu12:32
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malikeye_max_: cat /proc/meminfo12:32
thoreauputicmax_: free -m12:32
cafuego_Intelligitimate: not really, though it can output via aalib.12:32
IndyGUnFreaki guess it could be12:32
kirunmplayer can be used on the terminal12:32
IndyGUnFreakbut you can get it through your12:32
IntelligitimateThen where do I access it?12:32
IndyGUnFreakgui menu12:32
Flannelchorse: that's a really poor practice, and sudo still isn't making you root in that case, su is.12:32
Gosha|Away... huh?12:33
IndyGUnFreakIntelligimate:  Apps/Sound and Video12:33
chorseFlannel: debate on principles?12:33
webmarenintelligitimate: type 'mplayer' in terminal12:33
malikeyeIntelligitimate: you cna access it from a terminal12:33
Gosha|Away.. maybe i'm on other chans too !12:33
IndyGUnFreakyeah, you can get it from terminal, but i know when i installe d it, it went right to the menu12:33
thoreauputicchorse: sudo -i is the recommended way to a root shell12:33
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IntelligitimateI did both, and mplayer isn't in sound and video, and from the terminal it won't load the file.12:33
IndyGUnFreakare you sure it installed?12:33
webmarencafuego: I don't think it is an IP block, because the staff on at least the support board know that they do not work12:34
IntelligitimateYes, it gives me error messages and everything.12:34
webmarencafuego: So I don't know why it's not working12:34
juanowhy wont it let me save files??12:34
Bartisimo_click system>administration>system monitor then resources12:34
IndyGUnFreakok12:34
malikeyeIntelligitimate: mplayer <path to file>12:34
IndyGUnFreakwhat type of file are you trying to watch again?12:34
juanoi already activated the account12:34
IntelligitimateThat's what I did.12:34
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IntelligitimateIt won't play.12:34
IndyGUnFreakwhat type of file?12:34
Intelligitimatemp412:35
malikeyepastebin your error ?12:35
ericperssonhow can i make sure the ubuntu alternative installer uses only textmode?12:35
IndyGUnFreakhmm12:35
webmarenintelligitimate: what is the error message12:35
IndyGUnFreakand xine doesn't work?12:35
IndyGUnFreaki'm actually watching an MP4 in Xine right now.12:35
Bartisimo_It shows you your ram12:35
Intelligitimatenevermind, I made a typo.12:35
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malikeye:)12:35
IntelligitimateIt works now.12:35
LinTuxI want to install apache perl php mysql in terminal what is the commands needed12:35
IndyGUnFreakbout time...lol12:35
malikeye!lamp12:35
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)12:35
ubuntuHuys, a question here...12:35
juanoi want to edit a file inside /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf12:35
juanoit wont let me save it sais something that the backup file cant be made12:36
ubuntuI have the unfortunate thing that my pc (entire electricity) fell out during upgrade to Edgy.12:36
ubuntuNow I cannot reboot.12:36
IndyGUnFreakso what were you doing wrong Intelligitmate12:36
paolomy mplayer plugin (as well as vlc plugin) for mozilla doesn't work... it shows me only a blank window... any idea about it? thnks12:36
ubuntuIs it possible/allowed to chroot into my system, and do it from there?12:36
webmarenubuntu: burn an edgy install cd12:36
ubuntuFor I would hate it to have to restart...12:36
webmarenubuntu: back up your files12:36
ubuntuwebmaren: I'm on the live cd now.12:36
ubuntuwebmaren: and I cannot burn another cd while on live...12:36
webmarenubuntu: that could be a problem12:36
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webmarenubuntu: you have any friends?12:37
avalonAnyone know how to rebuild a module in here?12:37
malikeyehaha12:37
ubuntuwebmaren: but, chrooting, and commandline doing it, isn't that possible?12:37
IndyGUnFreaklol12:37
LinTuxI want to install apache perl php mysql in terminal what is the commands needed?12:37
IndyGUnFreakwebmaren, linux users don't have friends12:37
webmarenubuntu: you have any acquaintances12:37
malikeyeubuntu : you got any other linux boxes on the network to NFS mount ?12:37
ubuntuIndyGUnFreak: ^^12:37
IndyGUnFreaklol12:37
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malikeye!lamp | LinTux12:37
ubotuLinTux: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)12:37
ubuntuNothing of that... I'm alone... :)12:37
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webmarenubuntu: access to another computer running linux12:37
ubuntuwebmaren: Sorry...12:38
IndyGUnFreakhell, just another PC that can burn an ISO would be worth while.12:38
LinTuxCheers Ubotu12:38
IndyGUnFreakput an add in your local paper.12:38
ubuntuI tried that...12:38
IndyGUnFreakkinda like, "Will work for food"12:38
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IndyGUnFreak"Will work for burning rights for 1hr"12:38
webmarenubuntu: how much data do you have that needs to be backed up12:38
ubuntuI mean...12:38
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ubuntuwebmaren: Too friggin much :(12:38
IndyGUnFreakno offense, but you didnt' back up before trying an upgrade?12:39
malikeyebummer12:39
ubuntuOn my box it would take days to backup12:39
webmarenubuntu: do you have multiple HD's, or an external?12:39
ubuntuIndyGUnFreak: Nope ^^12:39
IndyGUnFreakman, thats a tough lesson12:39
malikeyeyes, yes it is12:39
ubuntuwebmaren: all internal, and multiple hd's12:39
avalonAnyone know how to rebuild a module in here, I need to know how to "patch" it to the kernel I'm running.12:39
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IndyGUnFreakubuntu, how bout this.12:39
IndyGUnFreakif you can do it.12:39
webmarentell me you didn't RAID them12:39
ubuntuwebmaren: no raid ^ ^12:39
ubuntu^^12:39
gilii am trying to get the built in card reader recongnized12:39
IndyGUnFreakcan you install ubuntu(new instlal of course)12:40
ubuntuIndyGUnFreak: what?12:40
IndyGUnFreakdo a different hard drive12:40
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IndyGUnFreakthen access your old files from the new install.12:40
webmarenubuntu: make backup of all of your files onto the drive that won't be sandblasted when you reformat12:40
gilii have a toshiba M40X and i cant seem to get ubuntu to recognize the built in card reader12:40
malikeyegili : does lsusb show it ?12:40
ub12wha tis the best thing for rss feeds using ubuntu?12:40
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malikeyeub12: I like thunderbird12:40
giliwhat should lsusb show?12:40
malikeyeanything12:41
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IndyGUnFreakwebmaren, but can he do that from live mode?12:41
ubuntuBut seriously, you're all telling me that a chroot, and a commandline thing (even though deprecated) will not work??12:41
malikeyepastebin it if it isn't blank12:41
niekieBut I rarely read RSS feeds anyway.12:41
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webmarenI've had to backup to a usb drive from live cd once12:41
pjm123Can anyone help me configure a wireless USB card for Ubuntu 5.10?12:41
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IndyGUnFreakubuntu, i think thats why you're hosed.12:41
webmarensame sort of thing happened to me12:41
pjm123or tell me where a better place to ask is?12:41
ubuntuhosed?12:41
IndyGUnFreakwow,12:41
ub12malikye yeah i like thunderbird but I set up evolution when I switched to ubuntu12:41
IndyGUnFreakhosed= screwed,12:41
malikeyeub12: I have not found a good standalone RSS reader12:42
LinTuxwhat is the command to install lamp12:42
IndyGUnFreakall the other words i had, would have gotten me booted...lol12:42
gililsusb yields recognition Bus 005-001 on Device 00112:42
webmarenubuntu: there is nothing you can do but backup your stuff and reinstall from whatever CD version you have12:42
ubuntuCrap tripple time!12:42
malikeye!lamp | LinTux12:42
ubotuLinTux: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)12:42
webmarenubuntu: then get back up to the system you had before12:42
malikeyelast time I'm gonna do it12:42
ubuntuMy dad is going to complain about my download :(12:42
IndyGUnFreaklol12:42
ubuntuBig time...12:42
IndyGUnFreakwhats wrong with the download?12:42
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IndyGUnFreakit has to e done.12:43
ubuntuI'm from belgium12:43
webmarenat least you didn't fry your parts12:43
malikeyeubuntu : you on satelllite ?12:43
IndyGUnFreakemail me your address and i'll burn an edgy DVD an dmail it to you.12:43
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ubuntuIn this godforsaken country we still have to pay per GB...12:43
IndyGUnFreakas long as your in the US.12:43
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wasabi_I'm sure he can just fix it manually.12:43
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malikeyegili: can you pastebin the results ?12:43
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wasabi_ubuntu, you can fix anything without reloading.12:43
IndyGUnFreakwow ubuntu, that is bad...lo12:43
malikeyereally it is12:43
wasabi_ubuntu, Just comes down to how hard you want to work at it12:43
webmarenif you feel comfortable waiting several weeks, you can order free CDs12:43
avalon Is there any site that has a step by step on how to rebuild a module? I know I'm supposed to patch it to my kernel, but I'm not quite sure how to do that12:43
gilimalikeye: iw will in a second....my card reader is internal its one of thosse multi readers12:44
ubuntuI want to work at it hard enough :)12:44
IndyGUnFreaki don't know wasabi...12:44
wasabi_Then start fixing the problems.12:44
wasabi_What's hte problem?12:44
vircuserhi, can anyone tell me if there is a key or key combo in ubuntu breeezy to take a screenshot?12:44
OlatheHow should I partition a 30 GB disk on a system that has trouble booting from disks larger than 8 GB ?12:44
malikeyegili: yeah, but they still use USB12:44
IndyGUnFreakhe had an install crash halfway through12:44
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wasabi_IndyGUnFreak: So?12:44
giliok12:44
IndyGUnFreakexcuse me12:44
IndyGUnFreakan update crash halfway through12:44
wasabi_IndyGUnFreak: It just left off after one package.12:44
webmarenolathe: 6 5GBs12:44
wasabi_As long as the FS isn't corrupted, it's cool.12:44
webmarenolathe or 5 6GBs12:44
ubuntuwasabi_: uhm, electicity got put down, and I was in the middle of my upgrade to edgy12:44
IndyGUnFreaki hope you're right.12:44
OlatheDoes just the boot partition need to be small, or all of them ?12:44
IndyGUnFreakok, two different things here12:44
wasabi_ubuntu, great, move onto the technical problem.12:44
niekieJust the boot, usually.12:44
wasabi_ubuntu, waht doesn't work?12:45
IndyGUnFreaklol12:45
ubuntuwasabi_: now I cannot reboot, so I'm just trying to ask whether I could use chroot and commandline12:45
webmarenolathe: my bad, just the boot then12:45
IndyGUnFreakwe'll chalk you up as last to know wasabi.. nothing works12:45
ubuntuwasabi_: nothing anymore ^ ^12:45
ubuntu^^12:45
wasabi_"cannot reboot". Are you prevented from pulling the power?12:45
wasabi_Can you perhaps describe more of the situation?12:45
IndyGUnFreakwhat the?12:45
wasabi_ie error messages.12:45
webmarenwait, theres a key combo to force reboot12:45
ubuntuwasabi_: nono, he boots, tries to do the X 3 times, and then doesn't even give commandline login options12:45
ubuntuNo error messages that I saw...12:46
malikeyewasabi_: is right... "won't boot" isn't a good description of the problem :)12:46
wasabi_Boot into single user mode.12:46
IndyGUnFreakit just freezes?12:46
gilimalikeye: http://pastebin.com/84398512:46
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wasabi_ubuntu, you know how to use grub?12:46
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vircusercan anyone help me with screenshotting in ubuntu breezy please?12:46
ubuntuwasabi_: basically, yes.12:46
wasabi_ubuntu, well, do so.12:46
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ubuntuvircuser: print screen12:46
wasabi_ubuntu, that will run nothing at boot.12:46
IndyGUnFreaksorry, never used breeezy12:46
malikeyegili: most likely it's not seeing your card reader12:46
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malikeyegili:  can you post a dmesg and an lspci ?12:46
IndyGUnFreakprint screen?.. is that the truth12:46
ubuntuwasabi_: uhm, I don't quite know how to boot into single user mode.12:46
gilisure12:47
un_operateurvircuser, whats the matter?12:47
ubuntuThere is a recovery mode though ^ ^12:47
fbcIs there any tool that will convert video formats to AMV's?12:47
wasabi_ubuntu, on the grub command line pass "single"12:47
wasabi_I believe.12:47
vircuserubuntu: cheers :)12:47
wasabi_recovery mode might be it.12:47
ubuntuWell, I'll let you guys know how much of it is working ^^12:47
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webmarenubuntu: hit ESC when the grub countdown comes up12:47
Milardovichhi everybody12:47
webmarenubuntu: then select 'reconvery mode'12:47
ubuntuWhatever, I got 60secs of options12:47
IndyGUnFreaki wanna see if this works.12:47
ubuntuok, brb :)12:47
Milardovichi use ubuntu and i think that its great!12:47
IndyGUnFreakhopefully12:47
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wasabi_if what works?12:48
IndyGUnFreakMilard, this is an ubuntu hate group.12:48
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webmarenmilardovich: cheers for you12:48
malikeyehaha12:48
wasabi_also why did he leave?12:48
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VerdRousseauany one know of a good wireless card that works 100 percent out of the box12:48
IndyGUnFreaki wann asee if what you told him to do works12:48
IndyGUnFreaki hope it does12:48
wasabi_I never finished explaining what to do.12:48
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Milardovichbut i had a problem installing ubuntu in my lap and in a harddisk of 3GB12:48
webmarenwasabi_: you can't stay in apps when you reboot12:48
IndyGUnFreaki just can' believe in todays day and age, there are people that don't create backups12:48
wasabi_Oh. He only had one system?12:48
Milardovichsory for my bad english12:48
wasabi_Nobody told me that. ;)12:48
IndyGUnFreakESPECIALLY when doing something as serious as upgrading your OS12:48
IndyGUnFreakyes wasabi12:48
wasabi_IndyGUnFreak: The OS is nothing but a boot loader, a kernel, and a bunch of files.12:49
wasabi_All of which can be put back where they belong.12:49
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malikeyeIndyGUnFreak: I don't create backups12:49
IndyGUnFreaktrue wasabi,12:49
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Dante123backups?  who needs em??  :-)12:49
Milardovichcheck that, thats my problem12:49
Milardovichhttp://www.milardovich.com.ar/index.php/blog/view/Instalando%20UBUNTU%20DRAPPER%20en%20mi%20pentium%20IV?id=6412:49
webmarenIndyGUnFreak: yeah I learned that the hard way12:49
IndyGUnFreakman i'd go bezerk12:49
ZoffixHi, is it possible to install Ubuntu over tha lan on a clean hard drive?12:49
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derFlowhat sound drivers do i need on vmware?12:49
wasabi_Zoffix: Yes, configure a PXE install.12:49
IndyGUnFreakweb, i never had to learn the lesson, a friend did, so i prepared12:49
IndyGUnFreaki'd go nuts.12:49
un_operateur!cloning12:49
ubotuTo replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type "dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages", move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type "sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade"12:49
IndyGUnFreak4gigs worth of mp3's12:49
webmarenIndyGUnFreak: had to pick the files I wanted to save when my edgy upgrade crashed in the middle12:49
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IndyGUnFreakabout 30gigs worth of movies, pics, etc..12:49
malikeyeIndyGUnFreak: only 4 ?12:49
webmarenIndyGUnFreak: dang12:49
Dante123will ubuntu work okay on an amd duron cpu at 800 mhz???12:50
derFlowhat sound drivers do i need on vmware?12:50
wasabi_Confusing. All you have to do to fix the system is get the kernel running.12:50
IndyGUnFreaklol malikeye...12:50
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derFlowhat sound drivers do i need on vmware?12:50
FirstStrikeDante123: You should use Xubuntu12:50
wasabi_Just add init=/bin/bash to the kernel command line, and you'll get dropped to a shell12:50
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wasabi_clean up from there.12:50
IndyGUnFreaksome people say "only 4".., but when you consider i've obtained 99% of it legally, thats an accomplishment...lol12:50
un_operateurDante123, sure -- but that shouldn't be your only concern -- what about memory and HDD space?12:50
IndyGUnFreakDantel123:  how mujch memory?12:50
webmarenIndyGUnFreak: that is  a lot of investment12:50
gilimalikeye:http://pastebin.com/84398612:50
IndyGUnFreakyes it is webmaren,12:51
Dante123got a second hd with 30 gigs.......12:51
IndyGUnFreakthats plenty of hard drive space12:51
IndyGUnFreakhow much RAM?12:51
malikeyeIndyGUnFreak: 64G     MUSIC :)12:51
Dante123256mb12:51
IndyGUnFreakYIKES!...lol12:51
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webmarenoh hey by the way, is there a way to get ubuntu to recognize HFS+ disks12:51
IndyGUnFreakDantel, you might doa  little better with Xubuntu.12:51
malikeyeIndyGUnFreak: 329G    VIDEO :) :)12:51
gilias you can see lspci picks up the card12:51
un_operateurDante123, thats fine12:51
IndyGUnFreakdamn, and you people don't have backups?..lol12:51
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thoreauputicwebmaren: yes, put them in /etc/fstab with hfsplus as filesystem12:52
gilimalikeye:look at lines 40-4212:52
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malikeyeIndyGUnFreak: my stuff is all on RAID5... it's not foolproof but it's pretty damn close12:52
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Milardovichby everybody12:52
webmarentoreauputic: it's an external12:52
thoreauputicwebben: or mount them -t hfsplus12:52
IndyGUnFreakwell thats good i gues12:52
Milardovichbye12:52
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Seventhhello everyone !12:52
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malikeyegili: ok, so it's firewire12:52
Milardovichhttp://www.milardovich.com.ar/12:52
webmarentoreauputic: ty12:52
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TheGuruhow do you repair broken avi's?12:53
IndyGUnFreakbrb12:53
ZoffixMan.. what is the name of the command to see the info on your LAN adapters?  iwconfig for wireless and I just can't remember the one for wired adapters :S12:53
tuskerniniQuestion, how do i clear my .deb installs form my pc in the terminal?12:53
Dante123it's not actually my computer.....it is for a student I teach.....but the siblings often mess up the Windows.....I was thinking of putting Ubuntu on the second HD.....as an alternate os for my student....and brothers and sisters can do what they want in Windoze....but his ubuntu will be just for him...12:53
gilino no12:53
fu-k-ti'm trying to set up samba, but every time i try to start the daemon, it fails.  this is the error message in /var/log:12:53
tuskerniniDante123, not a bad idea12:53
gilisorry line 4212:53
fu-k-t[2006/12/23 17:31:18, 1]  auth/auth_util.c:make_server_info_sam(876)12:53
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fu-k-t  User smbguest in passdb, but getpwnam() fails!12:53
fu-k-t[2006/12/23 17:31:18, 0]  smbd/server.c:main(829)12:54
fu-k-t  ERROR: failed to setup guest info.12:54
giliTI flash media reader12:54
malikeyegili: just giving you a hard time :)12:54
fu-k-tany ideas on how to get it working?12:54
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tuskerniniQuestion, how do i clear my .deb installs form my pc in the terminal?12:54
gilithanls12:54
gilithanks12:54
gililook at line 42 that is my device12:54
_3ljforgive my stupidity, but whats the command again to get apt-cache search <whatever> | <this thing>, that makes it break to be readable by humans? (as in page by page)12:54
malikeyegili: you read this thread ? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=315497&highlight=PCIxx2112:54
juanogot network working now12:55
thoreauputic_3lj: apt-cache search foo | less12:55
_3ljless, thats it12:55
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juanoand root account12:55
fu-k-t_3lj: you could use | more or | less12:55
IndyGUnFreakman that was strange12:55
juano:)12:55
_3ljcheers, lol, i have the mmory of ... something without much memory12:55
thoreauputic_3lj: you can pipe most things to less by using | less12:55
thoreauputic_3lj: just t o confuse you, less is an improvemnet on "more"12:56
IndyGUnFreakso anyways, how do you have 330gigs of freakin videos?...lol12:56
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TheAspor |most :)12:56
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webmareni didn't know there were such videophiles12:56
thoreauputicTheAsp: yes, more or less ')12:57
IndyGUnFreakme either webmaren...lol12:57
webmarenis it your job>12:57
malikeyeIndyGUnFreak: the majority of them are divx rips of DVD's I own12:57
Stormx2Stop with the command jokes...12:57
IndyGUnFreakoh i see malikeye..12:57
Stormx2xD12:57
ZoffixDo I need to reboot this box from the DVD in order to do that install via LAN on the other box?12:57
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IndyGUnFreaki ripped all 6 seasons of Sopranos a little while ago.12:57
thoreauputicStormx2: you lost geek points there ;p12:57
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webmarenmalikeye: still.... that's like almost 40DVDs12:57
Captain_HaddockHi, I need some help in setting up my monitor correctly in xorg.conf.12:57
Stormx2thoreauputic: Bleh i don't care12:57
IndyGUnFreakits a ton.12:58
Stormx2Captain_Haddock: Whats the issue?12:58
thoreauputicStormx2: heh ;-)12:58
IndyGUnFreakhas anyone tried those enclosures, that you can hook up a IDE hard drive in, for backup purposes?12:58
malikeyewebmaren: I have like 400 DVD's12:58
IndyGUnFreakyou can get them at tigerdirect for like 25 bucks.12:58
Stormx2thoreauputic: Its too late and I'm too depressed to worry about geek points xD12:58
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thoreauputicStormx2: fairenough :)12:58
Captain_HaddockMy browser's manual states that the following setting is fine: VESA, 1280 x 1024 79.976 75.025 135.00 +/+12:58
namewhere is "alsaconfig"12:58
Captain_HaddockThat is "Display mode" "Horiz Freq. Khz" "Vert. Freq. Khz" "Pixel Clock" and "Sync Polarity (H/V)".12:58
malikeyeback in my old job I used to pass a best buy everyday, and tuesdays were bad :)12:58
un_operateurIndyGUnFreak, yea, I had one -- but it only supported ata-10012:58
Seventhi have a little problem with my internet configuration of the lan adapters. each (short amount of time) the "profile" (Home) that i have created is not considered any more can some one tell me how to make my profile work always and not only when i activate him every 3 min (or so)12:58
TheGuruanyone know of any software to repair broken avi's?12:59
malikeyegili: you readin that thread ?12:59
hanasakianyway to get ^m to open a new mail msg from firefox?  it used to do this.. not sure if it was debian/sarge or 6.1 that did it12:59
Stormx2Captain_Haddock: Do you only have access to some resolutions / refresh rates?12:59
malikeyegili: I've never seen that type of a procedure before, so....12:59
Captain_HaddockStormx2: The existing xorg.conf uses a set of ranges.. Is it OK to replace it with an exact value?12:59
namei never get an answer here12:59
namethat sucks ;(12:59
IndyGUnFreakwell, all i know is i've got a spare 300gig IDE hard drive I had, and put it in there, and had an instant 300gig backup device12:59
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radar_1976ok I'm having some real big issues with Edgy12:59
webmarenIndyGUnFreak: I have a 120GB WD external in HFS+ format12:59
TheGuruI made the dumb mistake of downloading part of an AVI with an FTP client and resumed it with another client12:59
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Stormx2Captain_Haddock: I suggest you have a look here first12:59
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Stormx2!res | Captain_Haddock12:59
ubotuCaptain_Haddock: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto12:59
IndyGUnFreakyeah, mine is in ext3...12:59
TheGuruand it's kinda messed up12:59
Captain_HaddockCheers12:59
radar_1976Firefox or Ephiphany browsers like to freeze alot!12:59
thoreauputicname: alsaconfig is deprecated in ubuntu12:59
malikeyename... you try 'which alsaconfig' ?12:59
ubuntu_I'm back12:59
IndyGUnFreakis Fat32 more efficient than ext3?12:59
webmarenIndyGUnFreak: Had a mac before I went linux01:00
radar_1976is ther anyone else having issues with these as well?01:00
Stormx2Captain_Haddock: Second link01:00
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IndyGUnFreaki was always swuck in windoze hell.01:00
Stormx2IndyGUnFreak: No.01:00
ubuntu_Bad news, in recovery I could not get my network up-and-running01:00
thoreauputicname: and that's from crimsun, who is the resident sound guru :)01:00
webmarenIndyGUnFreak: I watch my family boot it and laugh01:00
ashzillaHow do I disk defragment in Ubuntu?01:00
Stormx2IndyGUnFreak: FAT32 is horrible...01:00
webmarenIndyGUnFreak: takes like 5mins01:00
IndyGUnFreaklol01:00
Stormx2ashzilla: Its not needed on ext301:00
ashzillaOr run regular disk checks to insure the disk is managed well and error-free.01:00
namethoreauputic: hu?01:00
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VerdRousseauanyone got a out of box workign wireless card01:00
namethoreauputic: what else should i use?01:00
Seventhi have a little problem with my internet configuration of the lan adapters. each (short amount of time) the "profile" (Home) that i have created is not considered any more can some one tell me how to make my profile work always and not only when i activate him every 3 min (or so)01:00
un_operateurIndyGUnFreak, yes, Fatxx doesnt have the overhead of the other more sophisticated file systems -- but thats to its disadvantage01:00
ubuntu_ashzilla: it does that out of itself01:00
thoreauputicname: there is no alsaconfig in ubuntu01:00
namewhy dammit?01:00
webmarenIndyGUnFreak: if microsoft uses it, that should be warning enough01:00
Stormx2VerdRousseau: Mine was almost out the box... haha. Easy to set up01:00
IndyGUnFreakAMEN!!! webmaren..lol01:01
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TheGuruum...Anyone?01:01
thoreauputicname: i was told "It causes more issues than it fixes"01:01
Captain_HaddockStormx2: I should follow the instructions for dapper?01:01
VerdRousseaustormx2-what card do you have01:01
kyjawouldnt have to be in a card slot to be a working wireless card?01:01
Stormx2Captain_Haddock: Its probably the same. Hold on, let me get you the command you need.01:01
IndyGUnFreakso ubuntu, will you be able to back up your files from safemode?01:01
Stormx2VerdRousseau: One minute please01:01
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Captain_HaddockStormx2: thanks dude01:01
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webmarenoops lol01:01
nameFFS i need it01:01
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gilimalikeye: looking at it now01:02
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namemy alsa doesn't record anything01:02
namethat's no good01:02
kirunI hear Microsoft use a lot of this "electricity" stuff, and a thing known as the "x86" architecture... guess we should avoid those in the future01:02
malikeyename : did you unmute the 'in' ?01:02
kirunBabbage difference engine FTW :)01:02
malikeyeline in, rather01:02
giliit is so weird that the kernel has been so unsupportive of cardreaders from the biox01:02
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namenah it gives an here01:02
gili*box01:02
namehere - error01:02
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thoreauputickirun: absolutely. yoghurt cups connected with string work just fine ;-)01:02
con-mandoes anyone know of a really good flash player?01:02
IndyGUnFreakUbuntu: could you run a backup from safe mode?01:03
con-manthe one if firefox doesnt work right01:03
Stormx2Captain_Haddock: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg <-- Press enter through all of it till you get to resolutions, etc. Put a check in the boxes with space bar01:03
nameit's  Card: Intel ICH5                                                             01:03
IndyGUnFreakeither DVD's, or an external drive, something/01:03
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malikeyecon-man: uh... macromedia flash player ?01:03
Captain_HaddockStormx2: okie dokie. sec.01:03
un_operateurcon-man, firefox doesnt come with flash by default -- which one is it you are using ATM?01:03
ubuntu_IndyGUnFreak: Yeah... Sortof, I did the most important01:03
fu-k-tso, nobody has any ideas about my samba problem?01:03
IndyGUnFreakwell, i guess thats good.01:03
Stormx2VerdRousseau: I am using a 3COM 3CRUSB1007501:03
con-manun_operateur: i am using that one yes, ive also tried swfplayer01:03
IndyGUnFreakso now you're just gonna get reamed for the download01:04
VerdRousseauokay thanks01:04
IndyGUnFreakhey, where do you live you still pay the GB?01:04
ubuntu_IndyGUnFreak: But I'm gonna be stupid and hard-headed.. I'm gonna try it the chroot way...01:04
IndyGUnFreaklol, have fun01:04
Stormx2VerdRousseau: To get it working I manually downloaded and compiled the drivers. It took under 5 minutes.01:04
ubuntu_:)01:04
jman_http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2006/12/22/allofmp3com-sued-for-165-trillion/01:04
un_operateurcon-man, how about Adobe Flash 9 or gnash?01:04
webmarenubuntu_: you have dial-up, dsl, or cable?01:04
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IndyGUnFreakand how much do you pay per GB?01:05
Stormx2IndyGUnFreak: Per Great Britain?01:05
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IndyGUnFreakno, gigabyte01:05
malikeyejman_: they won't win01:05
IndyGUnFreakhe pays for his internet service by the GB01:05
Stormx2Ah haha01:05
IndyGUnFreaklol, thats why he was stressing over the problems he was having wi8tht hat download...lol01:05
Stormx2I have uncapped. I'm one of two customers on my ISP, they want to hang onto me.01:05
Stormx2Hence I upload terrabytes, etc...01:06
mnvlcan anyone recommend a graphic archive utility?01:06
ubuntu_webmaren: I've got (a)dsl01:06
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webmarenstormx2: dang01:06
thoreauputicmnvl: file-roller01:06
Stormx2mnvl: To do what, create archives or unpack them?01:06
IndyGUnFreakubuntu_, how much do you pay per GB?01:06
thoreauputicmnvl: which is installed by default01:06
webmarenubuntu_: at least you won't be on the phone for the whole night01:06
ubuntu_And I only have to pay if we go above 15G... How much I have no clue...01:06
IndyGUnFreaklol01:06
ubuntu_webmaren: lolors...01:06
IndyGUnFreak15g?.. hell i've broken that the last 3 days...lol01:06
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webmarenubuntu_: I have dsl too01:07
malikeyeditto, easily01:07
ubuntu_the download/upload whatever... that's not the problem...01:07
mnvlStormx2, to unpack them, and examine them and stuff01:07
gilimalikeye: thanks for the help01:07
webmarenubuntu: but I used to have dial-up01:07
malikeyegili: did it work ?01:07
gilithis process does not help me01:07
malikeyeok01:07
ubuntu_webmaren: me too, ages ago01:07
IndyGUnFreakdial up blows01:07
gilii will keep looking into it01:07
ubuntu_largest piece of shit ever invented01:07
malikeyesorry I couldn't solve it for ya01:07
juanodoes anyone know where to find mplayer gui for ubuntu?01:07
Stormx2mnvl: file-roller, as thoreauputic said01:07
IndyGUnFreaki could never get my modem to work under Linux, got it once under Mandriva01:07
Stormx2ubuntu_: Language.01:07
ubuntu_sorry :$01:07
IndyGUnFreakonce i switched to Cable, thatwas the clue it was time to dome M$ Windblows01:07
mnvlthoreauputic, should it appear in the gnome applications menu by default?01:07
ubuntu_Now, let's chroot :)01:08
thoreauputicmnvl: no, it was removed from the menu ( stupid if you ask me)01:08
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IndyGUnFreaklol01:08
Stormx2mnvl: Applications > Accessories > Archive Manager01:08
IndyGUnFreakfor cryin out loud though, make sure you have a good backup01:08
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thoreauputicmnvl: you can put it back with the menu editor ( alacarte )01:08
ubuntu_IndyGUnFreak: I have my most essentials...01:08
mnvloh ok that makes more sense thx thoreauputic01:08
IndyGUnFreakwell thats good.01:08
IndyGUnFreakhopeully this taught you a lesson01:08
ubuntu_IndyGUnFreak: the rest is downloadable/replacable really (although I would prefer not to ^^)01:09
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thoreauputicStormx2: heh - you must have put it there01:09
mnvlit's not there Stormx2 but i have it installed01:09
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IndyGUnFreakno kiddin, do you have like a gigabyte counter on your PC, so you know you don't go over?01:09
con-man!flash01:09
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:09
webmarenubuntu_: are you on a wan01:09
malikeyeIndyGUnFreak: I had to do that when I had satellite.. keep track of bandwidth... it sucked01:09
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Stormx2thoreauputic, mnvl, maybe it was left there after upgrades01:09
IndyGUnFreakmalikeye: I can imagine01:09
con-mangrrrr01:09
con-manflash wont play right01:10
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webmarenubuntu_: are you on a wireless network01:10
Stormx2con-man: Flash playing videos?01:10
malikeyeIndyGUnFreak: if you use a linux based router, you can usually keep MRTG graphs or whatever01:10
con-manlinux users have the same right to flash games as the rest of the world01:10
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Captain_Haddockbrb.. restarting X.01:10
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IndyGUnFreakhmm, aren't most Linksys firewall/routers linux based01:10
Flannel!flash9 | con-man01:10
ubotucon-man: flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports01:10
LinTuxhow do I uninstall a program in terminal01:10
malikeyecon-man: we have the same rights to a lot of stuff, but we don't get the same treatment01:10
webmarenoh yeah, how do I get flash to work on x86_6401:10
IndyGUnFreakcuz I use a Linksys BEFSX4101:11
webmarenswfdec breaks01:11
con-man!backports01:11
ubotuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports01:11
Stormx2LinTux: sudo apt-get remove app01:11
Seventhhow do i know on which version of ubuntu i am please ?01:11
LinTuxCheers Storm201:11
FlannelSeventh: lsb_release -a01:11
IndyGUnFreaksystem>About Ubuntu01:11
malikeyeIndyGUnFreak: the newer linksys ones are linux based I think... I use DD-WRT for all my routers / access points01:11
SeventhFlannel : thanks01:11
stockfischcan anyone tell me why 3d works, but oGL does not with my ati graphics card (ati drivers)01:11
mnvlthx for the advice thoreauputic, Stormx2, sorry for the slightly trivial quiestion01:11
malikeyeIndyGUnFreak: the linksys firmware generally doesn't support SNMP so you can't get readings from it01:11
Stormx2mnvl: trivial is easier ;-)01:11
IndyGUnFreakah01:12
ubuntu_Well, it's doing it's job :)01:12
stockfischim am somehow stuck with my error searching01:12
IndyGUnFreakwell, i only go tit cuz my netgear FVS114 crapped out on me yesterday01:12
thoreauputicmnvl: it isn't exactly obvious - no need to apologise :)01:12
mnvlchill :)01:12
ubuntu_yet, too many errors occured... :(01:12
IndyGUnFreakbut it was great for almost 4yrs, and i only paid 50 bucks for it when i bought it.01:12
malikeyeIndyGUnFreak: take a look at dd-wrt sometime, it's pretty cool01:12
Seventhhow do you upgrade from a breezy badger release to the newest one ?01:12
IndyGUnFreakso it wsa fine01:12
IndyGUnFreakdd-wrt?01:12
IndyGUnFreakis that a package?01:12
malikeyeyeah01:12
FlannelSeventh: 5.10 > 6.06 > 6.10 (stop when you want to)01:12
Flannel!upgrade | Seventh01:12
ubotuSeventh: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes01:12
malikeyenope, it's a firmware for routers / access points01:13
IndyGUnFreakhm, i'll check it out.01:13
malikeyeIndyGUnFreak: http://www.dd-wrt.com/dd-wrtv2/index.php01:13
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ubuntu_crap, the chroot method does not work01:13
berbearhow do i enable smp support? im on edgy and cat /etc/cpuinfo shows only 1 processor01:13
ubuntu_ok, since I'm on the livecd... Redo it all (grmbl)01:14
Flannelberbear: which kernel do you have installed?01:14
IndyGUnFreaksure sounds like it ubuntu... have fun01:14
derFlowhat sound drivers do i need on vmware?01:14
derFlowhat sound drivers do i need on vmware?01:14
derFlowhat sound drivers do i need on vmware?01:14
malikeyeIndyGUnFreak: your linksys die ?01:14
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kitche berbear: does it say 1 or 0?01:14
ubuntu_Anyone knows where dpkg puts it's downloaded .deb files?01:14
IndyGUnFreakno, my Netgear FVS114 died..01:15
ubuntu_Maybe I can backup those, so I don't have to redownload those...01:15
IndyGUnFreaki replaced it with the Linksys01:15
Flannelubuntu_: dpkg doesn't download deb files, but they getput in /var/cache/apt/01:15
derFloubuntu_ /tmp ?01:15
timo901any one know how i can use this http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/892/buttonxp4.png01:15
berbearkitche:  2.6.17-10-386 #2 Tue Dec 5 22:26:18 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux01:15
ubuntu_hmm, don't tell me dpkg or apt-get or aptitude removes those .deb files?01:15
webmarentimo901: what are you using it for01:15
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Mastastealthubuntu_: apt-get clean will clear your cache01:15
Lam_what are flac cue files good for?01:15
timo901 webmaren:menu bar01:16
ubuntu_I don't need to clean my cache... I need to backup it ^^01:16
Stormx2Lam_: CUE shows exactly how they should be burnt01:16
berbearkitche: cat /etc/proc shows processor 0 only01:16
Stormx2Lam_: FLAC is lossless... MP3 but better.01:16
kitcheberbear: have to install the generic kernel that should have smp enabled01:16
Lam_Stormx2: ok thanks01:16
malikeyeIndyGUnFreak: dd-wrt doesn't suppor that router... was thinkin you might be able to resurrect it01:16
IndyGUnFreakyeah, i was just looking at that01:16
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IndyGUnFreakoh well, mayube i'll figure something else out .01:17
ubuntu_Whoooow!01:17
ubuntu_No complaints about my download prolly ^^01:17
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berbearkitche:im on edgy. grub shows i386 and generic option to boot.. so i choose the generic one?01:17
Flannelberbear: yes, you want generic01:17
berbearok thnx!01:17
IndyGUnFreakgeneric it is01:17
ubuntu_I can backup all the stuff I needed for the upgrade, since it's still there :)01:17
BoglizkWheres the pixmaps folder+01:18
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ubuntu_Now, where will I put that?01:18
ubuntu_I can't write on ntfs :(01:18
MastastealthBoglizk: I think its /usr/share/01:18
Stormx2ubuntu_: Get ntfs-3g01:18
Boglizkubuntu_: : Thats why you make a FAT32 partition ;D01:18
malikeyeubuntu_: can you shrink a windows partition down ?01:18
thoreauputicderFlo: vmware should use your existing drivers, and if you do a triple line like that  again you will be silenced, OK ?01:19
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UPChi01:19
FirstStrike!fuse ubuntu_01:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fuse ubuntu_ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:19
FirstStrike!fuse | ubuntu_01:19
ubotuubuntu_: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse01:19
IndyGUnFreakBoglizk:  The pixmaps folder is in usr/share/pixmaps01:19
idlemindntfs-3g01:19
Boglizkthanks01:19
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flux_g01:19
ubuntu_I'm gonna do some shrinking ^^01:19
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UPCis the Flash Plugin for firefox broken?  I clicked on the "Install the missing plugin"  part of a website showing Flash Content and installed the flash plugin in firefox.  Since then,  Firefox crashes whenever I visit a website with Flash content01:20
malikeyeubuntu_: shrink a windows partition can only really be done if it's at the end of the disk01:20
ubuntu_FirstStrike: I had that on my ubuntu distro, but I am kinda working on the livecd right now.01:20
ubuntu_malikeye: I know :)01:20
FirstStrike!flash9 | UPC01:20
malikeyeyou can't just add a partition in the middle of the disk01:20
ubotuUPC: flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports01:20
malikeyek01:20
FlannelUPC: you shouldn't use teh firefox builtin installer, install flash through package management01:20
ubuntu_I'm not an utter noob... :)01:20
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malikeyesorry, sometimes you just gotta say stuff :)01:20
IndyGUnFreakubuntu_: then you have no excuse for not having a backup...lol01:20
malikeyeI would feel bad if you shrunk a partition and lost stuff01:21
UPCFirstStrike and Flannel,  thank you for the tips01:21
ubuntu_IndyGUnFreak: Grmbl!01:21
flux_Hi. Does anyone here know how to put the right charset in gnome? I want to globally enable norwegian keys, ,,. Now I _can_ write with  in documents, but if I take a document containing  into any texteditor, all special characters come up as questionmarks01:21
IndyGUnFreaklol01:21
IndyGUnFreaksorry, just gettin a dig in,01:21
qball_hey guys, would somone want to help me on getting the 8.32.5 drivers working? I used the ati wiki and it installs but when ubuntu boots it flickers then freezes at the very end01:21
ubuntu_:)01:21
IndyGUnFreaklook at i this way, you got very lucky01:21
IndyGUnFreakmost people don't get as lucky as you did, and are pretty much hosed.01:21
qball_i'm using a sapphire x1950 pro01:21
malikeyeIndyGUnFreak:  there is a microsoft router in the compat list for dd-wrt.. how ironic01:21
IndyGUnFreaklol malikeye.01:22
Terminusflux_: you probably need a text editor that supports UTF-801:22
qball_anyone?01:22
thoreauputic!patience01:22
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines01:22
grimeboyCan anyone help me with icecast? I've just apt-get'd it and it says I can telnet on to but I get telnet: could not resolve 127.0.0.1:8000/telnet: Name or service not known when I try to.01:22
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billytwowillygrimeboy: did you start up icecast?01:23
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DarthLappygrimeboy, You can't telnet with /telnet in the name.01:23
qball_if you can help me just let me know, i'm clueless01:23
grimeboyDarthLappy, I didn't01:23
IndyGUnFreakvolunteers?01:23
grimeboybillytwowilly, No but it said it was starting and it is in init.d01:23
malikeyeI'm not sure you can use a colon either... is should be 127.0.0.1 800001:23
IndyGUnFreaksome9one told me i was getting paid to sit in here01:23
flux_Terminus: I think they do.... since I can use them and save them. The problem comes when I take a document created by another texteditor, and try to put it into emacs or kile. I can write  as usual when i'm using f.eks. emacs to write something...01:23
DarthLappygrimeboy, What did you try and do?01:23
grimeboyDarthLappy, telnet localhost:800001:24
billytwowillygrimeboy: ok, so check to see if it started ps -A then look for icecast.. Or you could get fancy and go ps -A | grep icecast01:24
pjmanI'm in the process of setting up a new computer with Ubuntu for my aunt. She sends email to relatives in Germany and she loves to use the character map in Windows to input certain German characters. I thought this would be possible in Ubuntu's character map but German is not an option in the list.01:24
pjmanWhat package(s) do I need to install in order for German characters to show up in the Character Map?01:24
ubuntu_You know what?01:24
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Terminusflux_: i don't use emacs, but did you set it to start with UTF-8 enabled?01:24
ubuntu_I'm gonna resize my '/', and create a '/home' out of it.01:24
malikeyeubuntu_: which FS ?01:24
billytwowillyqball_: I'd like to help you but I can't get the ati drivers working on my laptop myself. The experience has convinced me that ATI is a poor product to buy if you want stable drivers.01:24
grimeboybillytwowilly, 27849 pts/6    00:00:00 icecast01:24
ubuntu_Ext3?01:24
ubuntu_malikeye:01:24
malikeyeperfect01:24
flux_terminus: where do I do that? I just assumed it was OK since I could write with special characters in it01:24
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qball_lol anyone know what to do?01:24
billytwowillygrimeboy: then follow the other guy's advice about /icecast01:24
ubuntu_Indeed, just what I figured :)01:24
Terminusflux_: oh wait... my bad. it should be following /etc/environment01:24
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billytwowillygrimeboy: err about /telnet01:25
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grimeboybillytwowilly, I don't really understand I typed in telnet localhost:8000 I'm pretty sure that's right.01:25
thoreauputicqball_: evidently not - at least not atthe moment. Error messages in the pastebin sometimes help01:25
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flux_Terminus: OK! Great... I'll check out there01:25
DarthLappyTrying to help in a Linux channel without access to Linux for a while makes life hard ^_^01:26
thoreauputic!paste . qball_01:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about paste . qball_ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:26
qball_thoreauputic eh there is no message though01:26
Terminusflux_: anyway, it either follows /etc/environment or you have to configure it to use UTF-8. i don't really know when it comes to emacs.01:26
grimeboyWhen I point my browser at localhost:8000 I get 404 entity not found.01:26
billytwowillygrimeboy: then I don't know what could be the problem. Perhaps 8000 is the wrong port? Try it again?01:26
jasonubuntu sucks ubuntu sucks ubuntu sucks ubuntu sucks ubuntu sucks ubuntu sucks..01:26
malikeyehaha01:26
ubuntu_jason: stop quoting me!01:26
billytwowillycheck to make sure it's running on port 800001:26
qball_thoreauputic i install the drivers like the wiki says and it wont boot up at all after i do that, i have to use my old xorg.conf to get it going again01:26
grimeboybillytwowilly, How?01:26
malikeyegrimeboy: try : telnet 127.0.0.1 800001:26
thoreauputicjason: so do trolls ;p01:26
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billytwowillygrimeboy: that I can't help you with;) I can't remember how to do it. some here will though.01:26
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grimeboymalikeye, Ah, I'm stupid. Thanks!01:27
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malikeyegrimeboy: netstat -an | grep 800001:27
malikeyegrimeboy: that worked ?01:27
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grimeboyI normally use ssh.01:27
grimeboymalikeye, Yup!01:27
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malikeyenice01:27
grimeboytelnet is fussy01:27
malikeyeagreed01:27
jasonubuntu_ Huh..?01:27
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thoreauputicqball_: unfortunately I can't help - I have no experience with this01:27
BoglizkMy NFTS partition is root-only, any suggestions?01:27
DarthLappyOh, I thought it might be that but I couldn't check the telnet help :)01:27
ubuntu_00:26 < jason> ubuntu sucks ubuntu sucks ubuntu sucks ubuntu sucks ubuntu sucks ubuntu sucks..01:27
Boglizk(meaning i cant even readit)01:27
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qball_mmm does anyone ever used the 8.32.5 drivers yet from ati?01:27
IndyGUnFreakuh..01:28
bobwhoopsDoes ubuntu comes with an ssh server or do I need to install one?01:28
crowley1027help --- I have no sound.01:28
DarthLappybobwhoops, The latter.01:28
un_operateurbobwhoops, you need install one01:28
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malikeyebobwhoops: you ened to install openssh-server01:28
thoreauputicbobbyd: install openssh-sever01:28
jasonubuntu_: I wasn't quoting01:28
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Boglizkbobwhoops: check apt-cachy policy openssh-server01:28
Boglizkcache..01:28
ubuntu_jason: And I was joking...01:28
thoreauputicbobbyd: umm openssh-server01:28
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billytwowillyBoglizk: I lick cachy better;)01:28
jasonubuntu_:   : )01:28
IndyGUnFreakwhats that new virus thats how now.01:29
crowley1027it was working fine a couple of minutes ago, and now nothing01:29
IndyGUnFreakits apparently another gloom and doom for M$01:29
IndyGUnFreakbut i didn't catch the details01:29
crowley1027i can hear the airy noise when i turn my speakers ALLLL Lthe way up01:29
webmarenwish me luck, I just tried getting flash on x86_6401:29
ubuntu_Goddamn resizing takes too much time01:29
crowley1027but there is no sound whatsoever01:29
zyder22is it alright if i ask you guys a question?01:29
crowley1027!language | ubuntu_01:29
ubotuubuntu_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.01:29
jasonbillytwowilly:  Jason kills billytwowilly01:29
thoreauputic!language | ubuntu01:29
ubotuubuntu: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.01:29
IndyGUnFreakno, zyder01:29
malikeyewebmaren: prepare for browser crashes :)01:29
IndyGUnFreakwe come here to exchange pornography01:29
DarthLappy!ask | zyder2201:29
ubotuzyder22: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:29
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webmarenmalikeye: I hope not01:29
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malikeyewebmaren: it'll probably peg your machine too, after a while01:30
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jasonBEEELLCH01:30
zyder22well, i just recently downloaded ubuntu 6.1 and when it goes to start my monitor displays a screen with lines and jibberish on it01:30
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crowley1027Help:  I have no sound.  It was working fine a couple minutes ago, and now nothing.  I can hear the airy nois if i turn my speakers to max, so they aren't muted....i don't know whats going on.01:30
webmarenmalikeye: I need to kill the swfdec plugin01:30
zyder22how can i install in a text mode and then how would i go about config it to run properly01:30
jasonburp01:31
wastrel!alternate | zyder2201:31
ubotuzyder22: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.01:31
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IndyGUnFreakzyder, i'd suggest downloading the alternate install CD01:31
zzzcan someone help me set up port forwarding, i have issues with some videogames, (i have pppoe connection on my linux box which serves as router for my windows box)01:31
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sparklehistory!dvd01:31
un_operateurzyder22, CTRL+ALT+F101:31
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages01:31
neo_i'm having trouble with the postgres installation the initd command does not exist can any one help ?01:31
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malikeyeneo_: is it called postmaster in /etc/init.d ?01:31
crowley1027Help:  I have no sound.  It was working fine a couple minutes ago, and now nothing.  I can hear the airy nois if i turn my speakers to max, so they aren't muted....i don't know whats going on.01:32
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un_operateurneo_, what are you hopinh initd would do?01:32
thoreauputic!repeat | crowley102701:32
ubotucrowley1027: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience01:32
neo_an instance of and data base01:32
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neo_an instance of a data base01:32
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zzzanyone?01:33
zyder22i installed it before in text mode but couldnt get it to boot into a gui evironment if the same happens again do you know what i should look for as a solution01:33
BoglizkI'm not allowed to access my NTFS partition anymore for some reason. (I can under root though)01:33
thoreauputic!sound > crowley102701:33
timo901!patience |zzz01:33
ubotuzzz: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines01:33
ubuntu_Boglizk: reboot in windows twice01:33
neo_postmaster no sutch thing in  init.d01:33
thoreauputiccrowley1027: check your msg please01:33
IndyGUnFreak!dvd01:33
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages01:33
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un_operateurneo_, a database is an object in a Database server -- I dont get what you mean01:33
Boglizkubuntu_: Huh?01:33
IndyGUnFreakhmm, i never noticed that01:33
ubuntu_Boglizk: the ntfs filesystem sometimes needs checking01:34
IndyGUnFreak!help01:34
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots01:34
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ubuntu_I had the same not too long ago, and it was just solved by rebooting windows 2 times01:34
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BoglizkThers nor problem with it... i can access it with root01:34
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ubuntu_Boglizk: owh...01:34
crowley1027!alsa01:34
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin01:34
n2diyA friend of mine lost his partition but can still boot into Windows. wouldn't re-installing linux create a new partition table?01:34
crowley1027yeah, alsa is selected.01:34
Boglizkits say "not allowed" when cd'ing to /media/hda101:34
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ubuntu_Boglizk: give your normal user access...01:35
mc_renlol01:35
malikeyen2diy: most likely yes01:35
mc_renim drunk01:35
ubuntu_Boglizk: are you using some sort of ntfs driver?01:35
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ubuntu_Boglizk: fuse-like?01:35
un_operateurn2diy, no -- only using fdisk or another parition utility recreates the parition tables01:35
timo901n2diy: some thing here \01:35
ubuntu_ntfs-3g?01:35
neo_i nead to create a new data base instance to have an application runing with it and i was had to run initdb -D "somename"01:35
Boglizkubuntu_: Nope, nothing01:35
neo_but their is no initdb01:36
mc_renis there any good guide on setting up some kind of ssh tunnel which allows me to connect to a client behind a nat while i'm at a remote box.01:36
ubuntu_then pmount as your normal user, instead of doing a sudo mount.01:36
neo_and no postmaster01:36
BoglizkI tried giving myself access.. but it complained about readonly shit01:36
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malikeyeneo_: I am installing it now.. gimme a few and I'll try to help01:36
mc_ren?01:36
webmarengaaahhhhh01:36
n2diyun_operateur: but Ubuntu creates partitions during install no?01:36
webmarenstupid flash player01:36
ubuntu_Boglizk: umount first, then pmount (as normal user, without sudo)01:36
malikeyen2diy: you can choose to manually partition and use the partitions that already exist01:36
BoglizkI didn't mount em, they were mounted when i installed..01:36
un_operateurn2diy, only if you modify the parition sizes01:36
thoreauputicmc_ren: google tsocks01:36
Boglizkallright.. i'll try it01:36
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mc_renthoreauputic: i allready looked out on google01:37
thoreauputicmc_ren: and read the ssh man page with attention to the -D flag01:37
mc_rennothing good found01:37
mc_renonly for non debian systems01:37
mc_ren-D?01:37
thoreauputicmc_ren: yes01:37
n2diyun_operateur: And that is what would happen if it sees the Windows partition no?01:37
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CVirusIs there any solution for the sudden high CPU usage after upgrading from dapper to edgy ?01:37
mc_renthoreauputic: will this also work when client is behind box?01:37
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IndyGUnFreakDoes anyone here use Xubuntu?01:37
malikeyeIndyGUnFreak: I do01:38
daggerxive messed with it01:38
BoglizkIndyGUnFreak: Id try #Xubuntu01:38
Boglizk:p01:38
thoreauputicmc_ren: you need a proxy server to connect to of course (using ssh)01:38
CVirus!upgrade01:38
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes01:38
BoglizkI've had Xfce, not Xubuntu-desktop though01:38
IndyGUnFreakhm, i've heard it works better on slower, older machines(apparently a lighter desktop than Gnome KDE)01:38
crowley1027Help:  I have no sound.  It was working fine a couple minutes ago, and now nothing.  I can hear the airy nois if i turn my speakers to max, so they aren't muted....i don't know whats going on.01:38
mc_renthoreauputic: a proxy? on the nat box or on my home box`?01:38
malikeyeIndyGUnFreak: yes, it is lighter, in general01:38
mc_reni'm on the nat client atm01:38
IndyGUnFreaki'm about to get me a laptop that is kinda old, so i was just curious.01:38
thoreauputicmc_ren: another box on thenet01:38
mc_renoh01:38
ubuntu_Boglizk: now, how is the pmount working?01:38
un_operateurn2diy, you mentioned "reinstalling linux" that indicates to me that linux partitions already existed on the drive -- so if you want to reinstall, you can do so without changing any partitions and use the same old ones (without the need to format them too)01:38
IndyGUnFreakthought it would be fun to install linux and experience wirelss01:39
malikeyeIndyGUnFreak: if you want a really light WM, check out Enlightenment - e1601:39
IndyGUnFreaki hate enlightenment01:39
mc_renthoreauputic: this faces me with a huge problem: i don't have a third, independent box!01:39
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malikeyeok, guess not01:39
ubuntu_IndyGUnFreak: use fluxbox ;)01:39
mc_renany other way to manage this?01:39
IndyGUnFreaki tried it, and while using it, it felt like i'd just taken a bunch of pills and was screwing with my brain01:39
ubuntu_What, fluxbox?01:39
deep`Can i use a samsung phone in ubuntu?01:39
IndyGUnFreaknever got fluxbox to work01:39
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IndyGUnFreakno, enlightenment01:39
mc_ren<IndyGUnFreak>01:39
ubuntu_Owh :)01:39
IndyGUnFreaki swear, it had to be what its like to be stoned...lol01:39
mc_renfluxbox is pita!01:40
CVirusIs there any solution for the sudden high CPU usage after upgrading from dapper to edgy ?01:40
ubuntu_IndyGUnFreak: uhm... sudo aptitude fluxbox?01:40
IndyGUnFreaki did that ubutu01:40
thoreauputicmc_ren: e.g.  ssh -D 1080 user@box.org  <-- need a shell to do this (elsewhere)01:40
crowley1027ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:862:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave01:40
crowley1027Playback open error: -16,Device or resource busy01:40
IndyGUnFreakbut when i get there, i can't ring up any menus, no icons, nothing01:40
ubuntu_IndyGUnFreak: I got fluxbox to work :)01:40
malikeyeneo_: what is the problem now ?01:40
crowley1027Thats what i get when i do speaker-test01:40
neo_the same01:40
neo_lol01:40
IndyGUnFreaklol, touche' ubuntu_01:40
thoreauputicmc_ren: fluxbox rocks!01:40
malikeyeneo_: you can't create a DB ?01:40
ubuntu_IndyGUnFreak: owh, you have to do much of it yourself :)01:40
neo_nop01:40
IndyGUnFreaksee, i didn't know that01:40
ubuntu_No, kidding :)01:41
ubuntu_With me, all of it went like really easy...01:41
pjmanthought I'd ask one more time before I log off for the day. Does anyone know how to add different languages to the Character Map? I'm specifically looking for German characters.01:41
IndyGUnFreaktat explains why it didn't work01:41
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daggerxany graphic guru's?01:41
n2diyCvirus, don't upgrade? And it isn't really an upgrade Edgy isn't a stable release, so your, living on the edge.01:41
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neo_no i cant create a db i cant access postmaster their is no such file i'm running blind here01:41
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un_operateurIndyGUnFreak, fluxbox is a barebones WM -- it requires you build on it to get it to just how you want it -- it doesnt impose anything on you except the slit and the menu01:41
crowley1027Can anyone here help me troubleshoot my sound?01:41
malikeyeneo_: try here : /usr/lib/postgresql/7.4/bin/initdb01:41
daggerxcould that be the random lockups i get?01:41
crowley1027my sound problem?01:41
mc_renthoreauputic: to be honest i've only seen some screenshots. but they didn't really convict me01:41
ubuntu_un_operateur: nice explaination :)01:42
IndyGUnFreakhmm01:42
IndyGUnFreakwell i coudlnt' even get the menu to work01:42
ubuntu_IndyGUnFreak: right mouse button01:42
IndyGUnFreaki haven't tried it in a while, matter of fact, it was under Dapper.01:42
thoreauputicmc_ren: you need to live with flux for a while to appreciate it :)01:42
un_operateurubuntu_, its how the official fb team puts it :)01:42
neo_root@nebuchadnezzar:/usr/lib/postgresql/8.1/bin# ls01:42
neo_clusterdb   createuser  dropuser   pg_dumpall  reindexdb01:42
neo_createdb    dropdb      pg_config  pg_restore  vacuumdb01:42
neo_createlang  droplang    pg_dump    psql        vacuumlo01:42
malikeyeIndyGUnFreak: yeah, you need to edit files to get menus workin with the *box's01:42
neo_nop01:42
thoreauputicneo_: don't paste01:42
un_operateur!paste | neo01:42
ubuntu_un_operateur: I haven't read it until now...01:42
ubotuneo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)01:42
crowley1027!paste| neo01:42
ubuntu_I do find it quite nice of an wm...01:42
ubuntu_Can do everything with it, if you just want to01:43
IndyGUnFreakwell, i don't think i even have it installed now, !paste | IndyGunFreak01:43
neo_sorry din't now01:43
un_operateurubuntu_, yep01:43
neo_sorry din't know01:43
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IndyGUnFreak!paste | IndyGunFreak01:43
ubotuIndyGunFreak: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)01:43
IndyGUnFreakamazing.01:43
thoreauputicneo_: you do now :)01:43
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mc_renthoreauputic: i could live well with my ubuntu if i just could ssh with it to this box here. withoud a third pc01:43
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neo_ok sorry01:43
malikeyeneo_: find / -name initdb -type f -print01:43
moshehello, all01:43
IndyGUnFreaki'm just now learning to use the bot...lol forgive me01:43
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IndyGUnFreak!forgive01:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about forgive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:43
IndyGUnFreaklol01:43
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mc_ren!botsnack01:43
ubotuYum!01:43
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malikeyehaha01:43
IndyGUnFreak!yum01:43
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ubotuyum: Advanced front-end for rpm. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.4.0-3.1 (edgy), package size 197 kB, installed size 960 kB01:44
ubuntu_Whow, my box is finally done with resizing...01:44
thoreauputic!botabuse | IndyGUnFreak01:44
ubotuIndyGUnFreak: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...01:44
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thoreauputic:)01:44
neo_running01:44
IndyGUnFreaklol01:44
ubuntu_Slow piece of ****01:44
malikeye!gentoo01:44
neo_running search01:44
ubotuOther !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)01:44
malikeye:)01:44
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deep`Can i use a samsung phone in ubuntu? =)01:44
IndyGUnFreaki always wondered ow all those bot commands always came up01:44
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IndyGUnFreaki never really noticed all the people typing01:44
IndyGUnFreak!whatever01:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about whatever - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:44
ubuntu_deep`: is there any linux driver for it?01:44
crowley1027Help: something is using my sound and i don't know what it is01:44
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deep`ubuntu_, nope01:45
AdamKilihelp! installer keeps failing. I've tried Alternate and Desktop CDs. it says this in the Desktop CD: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38596/01:45
thoreauputicIndyGUnFreak: /query ubotu , and you can play there ( you don't need ! in /msg /query01:45
deep`ubuntu_, not that i know of, anyway01:45
ubuntu_deep`: is it some sort of standard protocol?01:45
UPCwhen I click on "Install missing plugin" in firefox,  and it installs FLASH for me this way,  when does it save the flash plugin then?01:45
deep`ubuntu_, err, i dunno. :)01:45
IndyGUnFreakdidn't know that thor, thank you01:45
ubuntu_And, if you have wine, you can always use that :)01:45
mc_ren!kebab_for_bot01:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kebab_for_bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:45
thoreauputiccrowley1027: try killall esd01:45
IndyGUnFreakX-chat, IRC, etc... its all pretty new to me01:45
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malikeye!beer01:45
pjmancrowley: Not a good solution but part of the troubleshooting process... have you tried rebooting?01:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about beer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:45
deep`ubuntu_, yeah, searching for it in the wine database right now ^01:45
deep`^^01:45
ubuntu_deep`: I don't think this is really the place to ask... I suggest you mailing to the samsung info or support.01:45
IndyGUnFreaklol01:45
thoreauputicOK next persomn to abuse the bot gets gagged01:46
LjL!botabuse | stop, please01:46
ubotustop, please: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...01:46
deep`ubuntu_, dont think they will ever answer though. ^^01:46
daggerxanyone get a usb tv tuner to work?01:46
mc_ren!don't_smoke_pot_kids!01:46
crowley1027Totem could not startup.  The audio output is in use by another application.  Please select another audio output in the blablablabla01:46
ubuntu_deep`: why not?01:46
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neo_/usr/local/pgsql/bin its here :D01:46
neo_thanks01:46
neo_:D01:46
thoreauputicmc_ren: you were warned01:46
un_operateurUPC .. probably to /usr/lib/firefox/plugins01:47
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malikeyethoreauputic: are you a dev ?01:47
IndyGUnFreakso is he like banned forever or can he come right back?01:47
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crowley1027thoreauputic: Totem could not startup.  The audio output is in use by another application.  Please select another audio output in the blablablabla01:47
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deep`ubuntu_, cuz its samsung support : D but someone can have written some program for it, i hope. :)01:47
thoreauputicIndyGUnFreak: i just ugagged him01:47
thoreauputicumm ungagged :)01:47
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IndyGUnFreakmods have to much power here01:47
ubuntu_deep`: In the first place, ask samsung, and while doing that, query google.01:48
IndyGUnFreakhow do you become a mod?01:48
thoreauputicmalikeye: no01:48
n2diyun_operateur: roger your last, tnx.01:48
LjLUbotu, tell IndyGUnFreak about guidelines | IndyGUnFreak, see the private message from Ubotu01:48
malikeyethoreauputic: how did you get "root" to do that ?01:48
thoreauputicIndyGUnFreak:  you behave and help and you might be asked :)01:48
IndyGUnFreakLjL, it was a question01:48
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IndyGUnFreakthor, i don't want to.01:48
LjLIndyGUnFreak: and there's an answer01:48
IndyGUnFreaki was just curious01:48
mc_renthoreauputic: can you help me with that ssh issue?01:48
mc_reni will try fluxbox then01:48
kd7swhcan I get some ffmpeg help01:48
crowley1027thoreauputic: Totem could not startup.  The audio output is in use by another application.  Please select another audio output in the blablablabla01:48
IndyGUnFreakwell, you're saying i'm disrespecting, i've disrespected noone01:48
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LjLIndyGUnFreak, i simply pointed you to our guidelines. drop this.01:49
crowley1027!sp | IndyGUnFreak nobody01:49
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n2diyssh problem?01:49
ubuntu_nautilus is crashing ^^01:49
thoreauputiccrowley1027: dop you have another sound app open?01:49
LjLcrowley1027: ?01:49
crowley1027not that i can see01:49
IndyGUnFreaki'm happy to be nobody...lol01:49
deep`ubuntu_, well, asking samsung dont seem like a really.. good idea. Even if they would answer, which i doubt, it would probably take them weeks. And i've got windows installed long before that D:01:49
kd7swhgod I hate ffmpeg01:49
crowley1027LjL: sorry :-P01:49
crowley1027thoreauputic: not that i can see01:49
ubuntu_deep`: in either case, do the google thing :)01:49
n2diymc_ren: what is the ssh question?01:50
thoreauputiccrowley1027: maybe something like a game, or skype or something01:50
IndyGUnFreakdo the google thing?01:50
deep`ubuntu_, yeah, been doing it for the past 20 minutes :D01:50
IndyGUnFreaklol01:50
crowley1027gaim, volume control, firefox, terminal.01:50
ubuntu_deep`: And just a question... why do you think samsung will not react soon enough?01:50
thoreauputiccrowley1027: if you have an oss app open it hogs the sound ( /dev/dsp )01:50
crowley1027how do i check ?01:50
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deep`ubuntu_, big company, dont think they will ever care about little me :)01:51
ubuntu_deep`: I've got a samsung myself, had a small prob with it before... I wrote an email, and the next day it was all solved (even though I solved it an hour after sending the mail, anyhow)01:51
crowley1027!oss01:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about oss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:51
ubuntu_uhm, quesiton01:51
ubuntu_*question01:51
mc_renn2diy: i would like to set up the machine in front of that i'm sitting to be reachable by my home box by ssh. the thing is this computer here is behind a nat and i can't configure this to forward aport01:51
ubuntu_Is there some sort of CRTL + ALT + DEL in linux?? Nautilus is crashing :)01:51
deep`ubuntu_, umm, okay, ill mail them then :D01:51
ubuntu_deep`: :)01:51
kd7swhdoes the dsp in /dev/dsp stand for digital signal proccessing too?01:51
deep`ubuntu_, ctrl + esc, works for me : D01:51
crowley1027thoreauputic: how do i check to see whats using my sound?01:52
malikeyekd7swh: it should01:52
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ubuntu_deep`: what does that do?01:52
deep`ubuntu_, dunno if thats kde only or something01:52
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ubuntu_hmm, prolly01:52
deep`ubuntu_, bring up an "process manager"? :D01:52
thoreauputiccrowley1027: fuser,  or lsof01:52
deep`a*01:52
ubuntu_ok, I'm gonna be back in a sec (CRTL + ALT + BACKSPACING)01:52
kd7swhmalikeye, kind of a ham question01:52
crowley1027type "fuser" in terminal?01:52
thoreauputic*sigh*01:52
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LjLkd7swh: it does01:53
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UPCFirstStrike, I cannot get the errorous Flash Plugin _deleted_ which causes firefox to crash01:53
UPCFirstStrike, I would like to delete the bad flash plugin first in order to install the backports one01:54
mc_renn2diy: you think this is possible?01:54
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kd7swhnext /dev/cw or /dev/psk will pop up lol01:54
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n2diymc_ren, you can't forward ports, I think for ssh all you need to forward is 22?01:55
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mc_renn2diy: i can't forward any port01:55
Rageagainstthisare you able to print out to a pdf with cups?  I am trying to figure out some margin problems and some others as well.01:55
mc_renno 22 nothing01:55
Acu_does anyone what application WORKS for Double Layer DVD writing (I have tried K3B and NeroLinux - both sucks) ?01:55
LjL!hf | kd7swh01:55
ubotuhf: amateur-radio protocol suite using a soundcard as a modem. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.3-4 (edgy), package size 617 kB, installed size 1668 kB01:55
LjL... for that matter.01:55
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n2diymc_ren: t make router?01:55
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apcools01:56
mc_renn2diy: i can't access the router here01:56
skeetohow do you decompress a .rar file on Ubuntu?01:56
un_operateurUPC, you'll need to remove the existing flash plugins in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins and have a go again (make a backup of them elsewhere)01:56
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kd7swhn2diy, all I forward is 2201:56
un_operateur!unrar01:56
ubotuunrar is rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression  There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free01:56
kd7swh!ax.2501:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ax.25 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:56
kd7swhlol01:56
iainOn 6.06, Gimp can't read SVG; does 6.10 fix this?01:56
skeeto!info unrar-free01:56
ubotuunrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB01:56
LjL!find ax25 | kd7swh01:56
n2diymc_ren:  Ok, you have to set up port forwarding from a box on the other side of the router.01:56
ubotuFound: ax25-apps, ax25-tools, ax25-xtools, ax25mail-utils, ax25spyd (and 2 others)01:56
LjLbut, kd7swh, investigate with the bot in a /query01:56
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n2diykd7swh: RR OM.01:57
un_operateur!gimp-svg01:57
ubotugimp-svg: SVG (Scalable Vector Graphics) plugin for The GIMP. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.13-1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 62 kB, installed size 128 kB01:57
mc_renn2diy: what do you mean by other side01:57
un_operateuriain, ^^^01:57
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malikeyeUPC: check for /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins too01:57
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n2diymc_ren:  from the side where you _can_ access it from.01:58
UPCthere is none01:58
kd7swhn2diy, how about a black-78 OM?01:58
malikeyeUPC: how bout about:plugins, does it show paths ?01:58
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UPCwhich one is the correct one?01:58
UPCflashplugin-nonfree01:58
n2diykd7swh: ??01:58
UPCflashplugin-mozilla01:58
UPC?01:58
malikeyehmm, it doesn't show paths01:58
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iainun_operateur: thx01:58
malikeyeI just installed the nonfree01:59
UPCok01:59
UPCthank you!01:59
mc_renn2diy: i only can configure my box and this box01:59
un_operateuriain, ye01:59
UPCok I will install ubuntu from new01:59
un_operateuriain, yw**01:59
UPCbye01:59
gilcheveshi, does any know where can i find books about internasl OS?01:59
malikeyecause of a plugin?01:59
malikeyehaha01:59
n2diymc_ren:  where is the router?01:59
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patrikI get this: "Depends: g++ (>= 4:4.0) but it is not going to be installed" when apt getting  build-essential. dunno what package thqat is. tried a search but I get loads of reply packages01:59
mc_renat a friends house01:59
un_operateurUPC's going to reinstall because of flash? =)01:59
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iainun_operateur: gimp-svg: Depends: gimp (= 2.2.11-1ubuntu3) but 2.2.11-1ubuntu3.1 is installed.01:59
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n2diymc_ren:  then he has to configure it.02:00
mc_renn2diy: his uncle wont get out the routerconf pw02:00
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mc_renthat's the point02:00
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iainun_operateur: Can I force it or should I downgrade?02:00
n2diymc_ren:  so your trying to crack it?02:00
un_operateuriain, ahh, you on dapper?02:00
iainun_operateur: still, yeah02:00
malikeyeI feel bad for when my kids hit the net :) they aren't gonna be able to do anything02:00
malikeyehaha02:00
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mc_renn2diy: what you mean by cracking? we want to access his pc while we at my home pc02:00
iainun_operateur: I'm getting ready to reinstall02:00
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un_operateuriain, well, the package is meant for edgy -- you might want to download all the new gimp packages and install them02:01
malikeyeDROP all but disney.com :)02:01
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LeGreffi3RBonsoir  tous02:01
thoreauputiccrowley1027 ? back ? try  sudo lsof | grep /dev/dsp   (sorry was afk)02:01
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LeGreffi3Ret joyeux nol02:01
iainun_operateur: my /etc/apt/sources.list uses dapper repos so how could the package be meant for edgy?02:01
malikeye!french02:01
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.02:01
n2diyWell you'll have to convince his uncle to let you do that, otherwise your attempting to crack the uncles network, illegal in most places.02:01
LeGreffi3Roh sorry, late in france... bye!02:02
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thoreauputicLeGreffi3R: merci :)02:02
iainLeGreffi3R: Is it Christmas already in France?02:02
LeGreffi3Rit's 2402:02
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iainOK02:02
malikeyexmas eve02:03
malikeyewhat time is it there ?02:03
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cmwebWhat ssh client is avalibal for ubuntu?02:03
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mc_renn2diy: we could only obtain physical violence to his uncle to do this. and since we are friendly guys that only want the for all women and men we won't do so02:03
LeGreffi3R2 in the morning :D02:03
cmwebit needs to be a terminal type02:03
malikeyecmweb: openssh02:03
mc_renbest02:03
ragnar_123cmweb: openssh02:03
cmwebk02:03
berbear_is it possible to install edgy (not uppgrade)" and still keep my current settings?02:03
un_operateuriain, you'll need to do it manually02:03
cmwebthanks02:03
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AdamKiliHELP please. The installer keeps crashing on both the alternate and desktop CDs. here's what the error in the Desktop CD says: http://rafb.net/p/7zphnq30.txt02:03
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un_operateuriain, or temporarily use the edgy repos (but i dont advise that) to download the new gimp packages02:04
n2diymc_ren: What can I say, either way would be illegal.02:04
AdamKili(ubuntu paste wasn't working for some reason)02:04
cmwebwait open ssh i have and i dont want that, i need something like putty02:04
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patriki'm on dapper server and trying to install build essentials to be able to run make manuconfig. But i have probs installing the build essentials. I get this: http://paste-it.net/79902:04
LjLcmweb: ... then get putty?02:04
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aliendream23I need help, I cannot get a partition to mount??02:04
cmwebfor linux?02:04
malikeye!putty02:04
ubotuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/02:04
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LjL!putty | cmweb02:04
cmwebi didnt see that02:04
ubotucmweb: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/02:04
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aliendream23!mount02:04
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter02:04
un_operateurAdamKili, you could consider using the expert install mode02:04
berbear_is it possible to install edgy (not uppgrade)" and still keep my current settings?02:04
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malikeyecmweb: there is  a port, yes02:04
kd7swhputt is in the repos02:04
LjL!info putty | cmweb02:04
ubotuputty: Telnet/SSH client for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.58-4 (edgy), package size 270 kB, installed size 672 kB02:04
insomniac656Hi,.02:04
kd7swhputty*02:04
un_operateurberbear_, sure02:04
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LjLcmweb: you still haven't got the concept of doing an apt-cache search... have you? :)02:05
mc_renn2diy: well your mom's illegal02:05
aliendream23!diskmounter02:05
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse02:05
un_operateurberbear_, as long as you dont format your /home partition02:05
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cmwebljl, nope i guess not02:05
insomniac656Do I need the ubuntu CD burnt to do a net install?02:05
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thoreauputicLjL: personally I think the linux version of putty sucks :)02:05
berbear_un_operateur: wat about programs downloaded from synaptic? do they still hang around?02:05
aliendream23!fstab02:05
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions02:05
main2i would like to make a quality dvd rip, should i use xvid/divx or h.264 (x264) ?02:05
n2diymc_ren, and dead too.02:05
main2any tips?02:05
AdamKiliun_operateur: how? is it on the alternate CD? is there a guide?02:05
malikeyeinsomniac656: depends on the arch and your skills02:05
jaekanyone know how to change file type associations in gnome?02:05
LjL!offtopic | mc_ren, n2diy02:05
ubotumc_ren, n2diy: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!02:05
aliendream23!partitions02:06
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter02:06
insomniac656on the arch??02:06
malikeyeinsomniac656: I did a sparc install the other day with onlt a 7MB boot image02:06
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kd7swhmain2, I use ogg, theora02:06
insomniac656okay..02:06
patrikjaek: rightclick the file and choose properties. now you can change it just like winxp02:06
un_operateurberber, unfortunately no -- the install packages will remain if you dont format /var .. but the apps wont be around02:06
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kd7swhmain2, try kungfu02:06
main2kd7swh: never used x264?02:06
insomniac656Well, I want to setup ubuntu on my notebook, but the cd drive is crap...02:06
jaekpatrik: thanks02:06
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un_operateurAdamKili, on the alternate CD -- i think you type help -- and it shows you02:06
kd7swhmain2, x264 is nice02:06
n2diyLjL, where you following the thread, he is trying to crack his "uncles" network.02:06
malikeyeinsomniac656: yeah, you would need a tftp server, and a probably a pxe server02:06
kd7swhmain2, it like xvid over x26402:06
insomniac656So I wanted to see if I could have the iso/image on my desktop somehow and have it install over on my notebook.02:07
klonIve got a 20G hard drive being recognised as a 2.1G and grubs throwing error 18 at me does anyone know what the problem might be and how to fix it?02:07
AdamKiliun_operateur: k i'll try.02:07
malikeyeinsomniac656: got a usb keychain drive or something ?02:07
kd7swhmain2, kungfu rips ogg\theroa files they look nice too02:07
un_operateurAdamKili, but beware - it requires that you know a bit about linux - and it uses the keyboard mainly02:07
insomniac656Can I use ethernet cable?02:07
berbear_i wan to use photoshop, matlab. shd i use vmware or wine or xover office???02:07
insomniac656Ethernet -> ethernet?02:07
main2kd7swh: i want the nicest ;)02:07
main2to be able to bring you the nicests ;)02:07
AdamKiliun_operateur: that's y i wanted to know if there was a guide to using it?02:07
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LjLn2diy, no i didn't follow from the start, i just noticed messages i shouldn't be seeing and backscrolled a little.02:08
un_operateurAdamKili, errm, i dunno - let's see02:08
w3ccv berbear_ instead of photoshop - have you tried Gimp?  good and free02:08
kd7swhmain2, I really like kungfu, but I have done some nice xvid with dvdrip, and k9copy02:08
berbear_w3ccv: im more used to photoshop... im waiting for pixel though02:08
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main2kd7swh you got a link for kungfu?02:08
main2i cant find it :|02:09
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berbear_so do i use wine/xover? or do i have to use vmware... vmware seems troublesome02:09
un_operateurLjL, do you know if there's a wiki or somesuch for an "expert install" ??02:09
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kd7swhmain2, let me see if I can find one for you02:09
n2diyLjL, roger that, he wanted help setting up port forwarding, and it turns out he didn't have access to the router, and then it got weird.02:09
main2cool02:09
LjLun_operateur: no idea02:09
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un_operateurAdamKili, no idea :)02:09
cmwebis wget avalibal to freebsd over ssh?02:09
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thoreauputicun_operateur: the main gotcha with the expert install is that you have to set up /etc/sudoers manually02:10
AdamKiliun_operateur: thanks. I'll c if i can figure it out.02:10
kd7swhmain2, http://jasonderose.org/kungfu/releases/ get the latest deb file02:10
peirce141I'm having a problem with ssh, I can't seem to connect from any machines on my local network, it keeps saying connection timed out02:10
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un_operateurAdamKili, yea, all it takes is a little common sense and a space computer to go googling/ircing02:10
un_operateurspare*02:10
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malikeyepeirce141: did you install openssh-server ?02:10
peirce141malikeye: yep02:10
malikeyepeirce141: can you ssh to 127.0.0.1 ?02:11
MalachiI can't seem to change my controls through theming.02:11
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un_operateurAdamKili, note what thoreauputic said too -- it's important02:11
peirce141malikeye: yep02:11
w3ccvmalikeye, is sshd running?02:11
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malikeyeis iptables --list clean ?02:11
MalachiSome things changed, but other things, like the scrollbar, stay the same.02:11
berbear_what shd i  use to run Adobe Photoshop and MATLAB? Will Xover Office or wine be fine, or do i have to use vmware? Which gives better performance(vmware has vmtools installed)?02:11
main2kd7swh thanks :-))))))))))02:11
klonIve got a 20G hard drive being recognized as a 2.1G in the bios and grubs throwing error 18 at me anyone know how to fix it?02:11
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m12where does the palm applet sync the pictures to?02:11
peirce141malikeye: what do you mean by clean?02:11
thoreauputicAdamKili: rad up on visudo, and check that you use the admin group and add your user etc02:11
n2diykd7swh: where are you in 7 land?02:11
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malikeyepeirce141: are you using a firewall knowingly ?02:12
skeeto!mp302:12
un_operateurberber, vmware -- that way you can run windows within (which you probably will need for something or the other)02:12
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:12
thoreauputicAdamKili: umm "read up on visudo"02:12
malikeyepeirce141: if not, check iptables --list to make sure it's not blocking 2202:12
peirce141malikeye: only from my router02:12
kd7swhn2diy, Montana02:12
berbear_k thnx02:12
DragonDHello. i just tried to install ubuntu and it didn't install a bootloader i have 3 drives hda = storage/backup sda = windows sdb = is where i installed ubuntu. i tried booting each one. and sda is the only one that booted. and it didn't boot gub or lilo just stright into windows. any help?02:12
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main2kd7swh: http://www.xile.net/xvid_vs_x264/02:12
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n2diykd7swh: RR, I have a sister in SLC.02:12
main2think i will go for x264 :X02:12
Anarchyhey hey can I have +v I want to be channel owner02:12
malikeyepeirce141: netstat -an | grep 2202:12
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thoreauputicAnarchy: dream on02:13
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malikeyehowever if you can get to 127.0.01, I am assuming 22 is listening02:13
kd7swhn2diy, Your in PA?02:13
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codemonkey2i get this message on bootup - The process for the system protocol died unexpectedly. what is it?02:13
Anarchyoh come on do not hate on me like that02:13
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LeSageshi02:13
Anarchyyou know you want to +v me so I can own the channel02:13
n2diykd7swh: RR02:13
codemonkey2and how can i fix it, kde seems to take longer to boot up and get the error02:13
peirce141malikeye: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38600/02:13
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peirce141malikeye: that's the output02:13
LeSagesi want to use this site radioblogclub but it don't run02:13
kd7swhn2diy, ah what do you think about the prospects of no code extras02:14
AnarchyYou can pay me 25 dollars a day to run this channel02:14
codemonkey2ne1????02:14
Anarchynot like you all do much you depend on debian and other distros to make your distro what it is02:14
thoreauputicAnarchy: are you familiar with scandinavian folk tales?02:14
malikeyepeirce141: that netstat looks ok.. it iptables doing anything ?02:14
DragonDCan anyone help me?02:14
daggerxdoes napster still work under linux?02:14
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thoreauputicAnarchy: continue and you will disappear02:15
daggerxthe napster client02:15
Anarchyoh do not threaten you hater02:15
n2diykd7swh:  not a good thing, at least they should have kept the 5wpm. Hell I had to pass that as a Novice.02:15
Anarchyubuntu is like debian pure shit02:15
m12where does the palm applet sync the pictures to?02:15
Anarchyuse a real distro02:15
w3ccvpeirce141, that's 'iptables -L'  past that02:15
codemonkey2mmmm someone know what this error means on kde boot - The process for the system protocol died unexpectedly.02:15
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un_operateurAnarchy, is $25 enough to feed/clothe and house you a day?02:15
peirce141malikeye: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38599/ iptables --list output02:15
malikeyewhoa02:15
codemonkey2hellooooooooooo02:16
malikeyeline 5 says you are ok02:16
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ragnar_123!hi|codemonkey202:16
ubotucodemonkey2: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!02:16
daggerx<<<not a gentoo fan02:16
codemonkey2yes hello02:16
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malikeyepeirce141: is this machine out in the public in any way ?02:17
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peirce141malikeye: nope, only connected to the local network02:17
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codemonkey2yeah i liked gentoo, was much faster, but then again was only running openbox, so wasnt hogging the memory like kde, but i like the easiness of ubuntu install02:17
w3ccvpeirce141, does your router port forward port 22?02:17
peirce141w3ccv: i don't believe so02:17
malikeyepeirce141: can you02:17
kd7swhn2diy, I did the no code tech years ago never upgraded, my father has a tech plus I am going to upgrade (planing on using cw) I don't think it will be all bad as long as we don't get another part 95 service on our hands02:17
daggerxI have a question... i installed edubuntu over ubuntu....   i want it gone lol... how can i remove it without reinstalling?02:17
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peirce141malikeye: can I what?02:18
codemonkey2i want this error gone - The process for the system protocol died unexpectedly. - what is it???02:18
malikeyepeirce141: can you '/etc/init.d/iptables stop' and try to connect from a remote machine ?02:18
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peirce141yea sure, give me a minute02:18
n2diykd7swh: RR, I'm going to brush up on my code too, I'd be lucky if I'm still at 5wpm.02:18
jeeves_Mossall:  can someone help me with Kismet and GPSD?02:18
w3ccvpeirce141, if you're trying to connect from outside then you need to port forward through it02:18
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peirce141w3ccv: only from local boxes02:18
hax_hey all02:18
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skeetois there a command to configure you audio?  I know for instance on redhat you can do sndconfig02:18
malikeyepeirce141: remote meaning a different box on the same network02:18
ragnar_123Hi Hax_!02:19
w3ccvpeirce141, ok02:19
peirce141malikeye: yep02:19
kd7swhn2diy, I just want to work psk31 and rtty on 2002:19
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hax_i've got an ubuntu 6.10 cd... but when i boot, the display goes all wacky, like its got the wrong driver or something... *sometimes* it works in graphic safe mode, but usually it doesnt02:19
codemonkey2so noone knows my issue?02:19
peirce141malikeye: /etc/init.d/iptables doesn't exist02:19
juanoi need help with my xp machine from LAN, cant go in hotmail.com or msn.com but everywhere else seems ok02:19
n2diyskeet, alsaconfig?02:19
hax_its a first-gen intel 20" imac... anyone have any idea?02:19
juanois this a routing issue?02:19
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un_operateurmalikeye, he needs to put the ssh rule in iptables somewhere near the top -- atm it's after the DROP-DROP rule and therefore might never get used02:20
DragonDWhat drive does the ubuntu installer install grub on?02:20
malikeyeun_operateur: yeah, I was having a hard time reading that :) not a firewall guy02:20
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berbear_how can i get hdd vibration protection on my laptop to work?02:20
w3ccvmalikeye, i think you mean iptables -F  (Flush)02:20
malikeyew3ccv: on ubuntu it could be... I am an ubuntu noob02:21
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hax_i dont understand why sometimes the graphics would go all wacky, and sometimes work fine02:21
juanoi need help with my xp machine from LAN, cant go in hotmail.com or msn.com but everywhere else seems ok02:21
juanois this a routing issue?02:21
malikeyew3ccv: well on any distro it is... but ubuntu it seems it's not in init.d02:21
raknami'm having an issue burning the ISO, when i use Nero i get a buffer I/O error which is addressed in the forum, and  the solution tells me to use Infra recorder to burn the iso but the program doesn't sense my cd burner for some reason, does anyone else have any recommendations for a burning program for windows that will allow me to burn the ISO in the proper raw96r02:21
malikeyepeirce141: I gotta bail, but it looks like these guys have you covered02:21
peirce141malikeye: alright, thanks02:22
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berbear_how can i get hdd vibration protection on my laptop to work?02:22
malikeyewelcome02:22
raknam*sorry let me clarify, after i burn it with Nero i get the error when booting02:22
whitedragonhi everybody, is there somethong wrong with this line in fstab??  "/dev/hda5       /media/data   vfat    gid=100,umask=0007,fmask=0117,utf8 0       0"02:22
codemonkey2The process for the system protocol died unexpectedly. - what is it??? please someone help here02:22
whitedragonsomething*02:22
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un_operateurpeirce141, see if this helps -- sudo iptables -I INPUT 1 -p tcp -dport 2202:22
aliendream23when I try to wget http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter I get 404 not found???02:22
juanoi need help with my xp machine from LAN, cant go in hotmail.com or msn.com but everywhere else seems ok02:23
juanois this a routing issue?02:23
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un_operateuraliendream23, it means the page no longer exists02:23
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slickywhat does this mean? Makefile.inc:69: *** /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386/build is missing, please set KERNELPATH   do i need to instal the kernel source?02:23
juanoi have ubuntu 6.10 as router02:23
un_operateurjuano, can you ping the two sites?02:23
peirce141un_operateur: bad argument '22'02:23
juanofrom here yes, from xp machine no02:23
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un_operateurpeirce, oops typo02:23
daggerxcan edubuntu be removed from ubuntu without reinstalling?02:23
juanomy lan is eth0 internet / eth 1 xp machine02:23
un_operateurpeirce141,  sudo iptables -I INPUT 1 -p tcp --dport 2202:23
synokoHow do I start xfce4 from the command prompt?  I did not install a login manager02:23
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un_operateurdaggerx, check what edubuntu packages are installed --  dpkg -l | grep -i edub02:24
codemonkey2The process for the system protocol died unexpectedly. - what is it??? please someone help here02:24
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jackson3246I'm using a single partition for the /home directory on two different ubuntu installations. both have the same username. when I boot into the second (most recently installed) installation it tells me that that /home partition has an error but if I ignore it I can boot into the system and it works perfectly as far as I can tell. any ideas as to the error's origin?02:24
kd7swhdaggerx, sudo apt-get remove edubuntu-desktop02:24
juanoxp can ping everywhere except hotmail.com, this includes msn too02:24
daggerxi did the sudo apt-get remove edubuntu-desktop   but its still on here02:24
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juanoive tried iptables -F02:25
juanono luck02:25
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m12when adding users to /etc/group do you use a COMMA in between the users or a COLON?02:25
codemonkey2i want this error gone - The process for the system protocol died unexpectedly. - what is it???02:25
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berbear_how can i get hdd vibration protection on my laptop to work?02:25
un_operateurjuano, hotmail/microsoft/msn/msdn etc etc cannot be pinged -- they drop icmp traffic02:25
peirce141un_operateur: still connection timed out02:25
daggerxok it looks like the artwork and splash still02:25
daggerxii  edubuntu-artwork                           0.1.0-45                             edubuntu themes and artwork02:25
daggerxii  edubuntu-artwork-usplash                   0.1.0-45                             edubuntu artwork for usplash02:25
daggerxhow do i change those back to original02:25
whitedragonhi everybody, is there somethong wrong with this line in fstab??  "/dev/hda5       /media/data   vfat    gid=100,umask=0007,fmask=0117,utf8 0       0"02:26
whitedragonsomething*02:26
juanowhat i mean is i cant go in from xp machine02:26
tonyyarussojackson3246: Have you run fsck on the partition?02:26
juanofrom ubuntu it works good02:26
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jackson3246tonyyarusso: not aside from the fsck performed at boot02:26
ifwranyone here know regular expressions?02:26
n2diy_ifwr, sure.02:26
un_operateurpeirce141, maybe -- /etc/init.d/iptables stop02:27
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tonyyarussojackson3246: No problems while actually running?02:27
neopsychehello02:27
peirce141un_operateur: /etc/init.d/iptables doesn't exist02:27
jackson3246tonyyarusso: nope. I'm on it right now02:27
neopsychecan anyone help me.. set up ppp connection for ISP on ubuntu?02:27
un_operateurwhitedragon, i suspect it is wrong because vfat doesnt support permissions and u/fmasks02:27
w3ccvpeirce141,  you need to tell iptables what to accept that port  sudo iptables -I INPUT 1 -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT02:27
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tonyyarusso!modem | neopsyche02:27
ubotuneopsyche: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto02:28
neopsycheNot sure how this works02:28
n2diy_neopsyche: sure.02:28
tonyyarussojackson3246: Very odd02:28
neopsycheon windows.. I just go to .. create new connection.02:28
hax_is it possible to make the livecd boot to a shell instead of X?02:28
peirce141w3ccv: i'll try, one sec02:28
ifwrn2diy, this regular expression echo "$@" | sed,s,:,\ -,g | tr \ /\* _+ | tr -d \'\"\?\[:cntrl:\]  is used by abcde to convert CDDB data to a filename.  I don't want spaces translated to underscores.  How should I alter it?02:28
n2diy_neopsyche: ummm, how are you here, if you can't setup ppp?02:28
un_operateurpeirce141, are you sure -- try tabbing your way there02:28
neopsycheTheres a wifi radio on my roof02:28
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neopsycheim using XP and my conneciton02:28
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peirce141un_operateur: the only one that starts with i is inetd02:28
neopsycheat the mo02:28
neopsycheother pc has ubuntu on it02:29
n2diy_neopsyche: ah i c.02:29
Ignite_!libtunepimp3 > me02:29
jackson3246tonyyarusso: yeah. I was thinking it might have something to do with UIDs or something. I don't know anything about that though02:29
daggerxubuntu -  838users  -- debian 230 or so users ... wow what a change over02:29
neopsycheso theres a lan cable running down from the wifi radio on the roof and antenna02:29
un_operateurpeirce141, what other firewalling software have you installed?02:29
peirce141un_operateur: none02:29
neopsychethat cable is POE02:29
tonyyarussojackson3246: It's possible.  Have you checked whether they are different?02:29
peirce141un_operateur: but, what w3ccv said worked!02:29
hax_there must be a way to tell ubuntu to boot to console?02:29
neopsycheand then another cable running into the computer..02:29
peirce141w3ccv: thanks a bunch for that, it's perfect now02:29
daggerx<<<got rid of edubuntu ... thx for help on locating what was still in the system02:29
un_operateurpeirce141, and what was?02:29
neopsycheLinux seems to say it gets packets02:29
hax_(with the live cd, that is)02:29
jackson3246tonyyarusso: I haven't. I'm not sure how, to be honest02:29
neopsycheBut thats from the Network..02:30
n2diy_daggerx: , and that is the lowest number here I've seen, since I started playing here.02:30
neopsychenow how do i login to my account on the network?02:30
peirce141un_operateur: he added -J ACCEPT to the command you told me to use02:30
w3ccvun_operateur, need a -j ACCEPT to the iptables line02:30
neopsycheto access the internet using ubuntu?02:30
un_operateurpeirce141, w3ccv ahh yea -- duhh me :)02:30
neopsyche?02:30
n2diy_neopsyche: I'm missing your questions, because you aren't addressing them to me.02:30
neopsycheoh02:30
un_operateurpeirce141, but can you connect tho?02:30
daggerxi seen it at 380 or so at like 3am lol02:30
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berbear_how can i get hdd vibration protection on my laptop to work?02:31
peirce141un_operateur: yep, i just tried02:31
daggerxnot sure berbear, but if you find out, let me know02:31
w3ccvpeirce141, now you need to find the rule file loaded at boot  - and do a iptables-save (that file name)02:31
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juanoun_operateur: any ideas bout this hotmail issue?02:31
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tonyyarussojackson3246: System > Admin > Users is your easiest bet.  Under the advanced tab of properties02:31
n2diy_neopsyche: type n2, and then hit tab, that should complete my user name for you.02:31
peirce141w3ccv: how would i go about finding the rule file?02:31
neopsychen2diy02:31
un_operateurifwr,  maybe this -- echo "$@" | sed,s,:,\ -,g | tr -d \ /\* | tr -d \'\"\?\[:cntrl:\] 02:31
patrikwhich ncurses package should I install in edgy server? get a load of them with apt-cacher search ncurses02:31
neopsychen2diy how can i get ppp connection working02:31
w3ccvHow do I get rid of directory colors???02:31
berbear_lol02:32
patrikneed it to run make menuconfig02:32
ifwrcool, Ill give it a shot02:32
neopsychen2diy using wlan isp..02:32
un_operateurjuano, I already said -- all hosts on the microsoft network are non-pingable -- they do that to stop hackers and kiddies DoSing them02:32
neopsychen2diy on xp i just create new connection02:32
neopsychein my_connections02:32
ragnar_123I am going to run a server here at home, (just for testing/learning php and sql). Should I download the 6.06, or 6.10 server image?02:32
n2diy_neopsyche:  I've only setup dialup ppp, I don't have any experience with wlan.02:32
daggerxnow if i can find an Xgl guru... ill be set02:32
juanoun_operateur:  im not talking bout ping02:32
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patrikragnar_123: go for 6.1002:32
neopsychehmmm02:32
mads-doing "sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop,user wc3.iso /media/wc3/" gives me an error: "mount: Not a directory".. What to do? :S02:33
un_operateurpeirce141, rule file??02:33
neopsycheapparently ubuntu isnt cool with pppoe connections02:33
neopsychehttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-138.html02:33
juanoun_operateur:  im saying that i have a ubuntu server with a xp machine in eth1 (internal) and internet in eth002:33
ragnar_123patrik: thanks..02:33
juanothe xp machine can enter everywhere02:33
un_operateurmads- did you create the directory?02:33
juanoEXCEPT hotmail02:33
peirce141un_operateur: peirce141, now you need to find the rule file loaded at boot  -  and do a iptables-save (that file name)02:33
mads-un_operateur, yeah02:33
neopsycheanyone have any ideas how to setup ppp connection?02:33
peirce141un_operateur: that's what w3ccv told me to do02:33
daggerxany XGL guru's here?02:33
w3ccvpeirce141, I'm trying to find it on my system02:33
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daggerx(for the compiz desktop)02:33
n2diy_neopsyche: take a look at system-admin-networking, that is where dialup is configured, and there is a network configure there too.02:33
tonyyarussodaggerx: #ubuntu-xgl might be a better bet02:34
jackson3246tonyyarusso: hm... yeah. I just checked the /etc/passwd on both installations and the entries for the corresponding users are identical02:34
peirce141w3ccv: alright, thanks02:34
neopsychebasically .. its like.. i need to access an account on a LAN02:34
CorpseFeederI installed Edgy from the alternate CD in text mode. When it boots up I end up in a flashing stripy screen of garbage. what do I do?02:34
neopsycheWLAN02:34
daggerxok ty02:34
neopsycheok02:34
tonyyarussojackson3246: Does it say anything other than "there is an error"?  Anything useful in log files?02:34
VerdRousseauanyone have a netgear ma52102:34
DarthLappyCorpseFeeder, Have you tried switching to a VT after it has booted?02:34
neopsychen2diy OK.. talk me through it.. i will need to go into the other room though..02:34
patrikCorpseFeeder: did you install in in a virtual environment?02:34
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jackson3246tonyyarusso: no for the first question, and I wouldn't know which log files to check to answer the second02:35
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RoboHey, is anyone in here?02:35
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patrikRobo: no02:35
un_operateurpeirce141, what i find really odd is that you dont have a /etc/init.d/iptables script02:35
tonyyarussojackson3246: I usually just pop into /var/log/ and look at anything that looks interesting.  Particularly syslog and the kernel one.02:35
w3ccvpeirce141, I have it loaded at wlan startup time -  with iptables-restore /home/root/itables.rules02:35
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RoboI can't get wireless for the life of me ;_;02:36
n2diy_Robo, nope.02:36
jeeves_Mossall?  can anyone help me with GPSD and Kismet?02:36
Roboaw damn, i was hoping someone would be here02:36
madman91mads-: i think you have to pass -o for every option02:36
Robooh well.02:36
un_operateurpeirce141, do this -- ls -l /etc/rc?.d/*ip*02:36
neopsycheok02:36
madman91mads-: -o loop -o user02:36
jackson3246tonyyarusso: oh. haha good plan. I'll check that out, yeah02:36
neopsychen2diy ok it says 2 devices not configured02:36
neopsychePPP0 and the Ethernet card02:36
seginmadman91: -o rw,remount 2 options "rw" and "remount"02:36
peirce141un_operateur: a few lines for /init.d/hplip02:36
peirce141un_operateur: nothing else02:36
Roboanyway, i guess i'll throw my question out there: i'm trying to get a WUSB54Gv2 to work and it's...not02:37
mads-madman91, still gives me the same error =/02:37
Roboi'm using the linksys drivers and they're loading properly in ndiswrapper but it's not finding the hardware02:37
madman91segin: ?02:37
berbear_how can i get windows drivers to work in linux? ndiswrapper?02:37
madman91mads-: weird02:37
mads-very02:37
Roboberbear_, that should work02:37
mads-Everythings seem right02:37
un_operateurpeirce141, try this -- grep -inH iptables /etc/init.d/*02:37
n2diy_neopsyche: put some punctuation after n2diy, so the message is highlighted for me. Can you configure them? What are they?02:38
berbear_robo: does it work for drivers other than wireless?02:38
peirce141un_operateur: nothing02:38
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Robohmm, dunno02:38
n2diy_I did?02:38
Roboi probably know about as much as you :x02:38
juanoi need help with my xp machine from LAN, cant go in hotmail.com or msn.com but everywhere else seems ok02:38
Robocheck the ndiswrapper website02:38
jackson3246tonyyarusso: nothin good in the logs02:38
seginberbear_: No.02:38
berbear_:( ok thnx02:38
seginberbear_: What kind of driver?02:38
tonyyarussojackson3246: Darn.  Anything odd about this partition setup?  When did this start?02:39
emoI can't upgrade my system any help please..?02:39
Robojuano: it's probably because hotmail/msn's servers are about as stable as a bipolar schizophrenic02:39
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berbear_for hdd vibration protection and webcam02:39
CorpseFeederDarthLappy: I do not know what a VT is02:39
neopsychen2diy_:  ok so i have an option to activate ethernet02:39
malikeyeback02:39
berbear_sergin: for hdd vibration protection and webcam02:39
juanoRobo:  LOL02:39
malikeyepeirce141: you get it working ?02:39
peirce141w3ccv: is there an easy way to find where my iptables rules are? I dont have any similar file on my system02:39
jeeves_Mossun_operateur: do you know anything about Kismet and GPSD?02:39
neopsychehmm02:39
n2diy_ubotu, _02:39
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peirce141malikeye: yep, now im working on saving the rules02:39
n2diy_neopsyche: go for it.02:39
CorpseFeederpatrik: I don't think so.02:39
tonyyarussojuano: Um, why asking about XP here?02:39
malikeyepeirce141: /sbin/iptables save02:39
seginberbear_: Get a Linux-compatable webcam02:39
DarthLappyCorpseFeeder, Oh, the virtual terminal. Ctrl-Alt-F1, etc.02:39
neopsycheer.. will have to disconnect from here then lol02:39
un_operateurjeeves_Moss, nope sorry :(02:39
jackson3246tonyyarusso: it started just when I installed in an hour ago. I've got edgy on /dev/sda1, the home on /dev/sda2, windows on /dev/sdb1, and this one (dapper) on /dev/sdb202:40
neopsycheto plugin ethernet.02:40
n2diy_ubotu, user name02:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about user name - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:40
n2diy_ubotu, user02:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about user - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:40
juanoits not bout XP, i am in ubuntu, i have eth0 -> INTERNET / eth1 -> XP MACHINE02:40
emomy system show my up that I got 4 updates available however I can't install it02:40
Nontitleubotu, name02:40
n2diy_ubotu, name02:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about name - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:40
berbear_segin: its built into my laptop "(02:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about name - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:40
CorpseFeederI have not tried going to the virtual terminal.02:40
jeeves_Mossun_operateur:  any luck on helping me find some help?02:40
jackson3246tonyyarusso: this one was the one I just installed because the dist-upgrades from breezy --> dapper --> edgy kind of messed up my system02:40
neopsychebut what then.. when the ethernet is enabled.. i need to setup another connection to login to my account and access the internet over the pppoe connection using ppp02:40
tonyyarussojackson3246: maybe it's getting weirded out b/c they're different disks, not just partitions?02:40
juanofrom XP MACHINE i can go anywhere google, etc. etc. EXCEPT hotmail and msn02:40
n2diy_ok, how do I lose the underscore after my name?02:40
Robojuano, trust me02:40
Robohotmail's servers are ALWAYS down02:40
malikeyen2diy_: /nick n2dit02:40
DarthLappyCorpseFeeder, You might be able to try and configure X from there.02:40
malikeyediy02:40
un_operateurpeirce141, i'm getting soft in the brain -- all you need to do is -- sudo iptables-save02:40
neopsychen2diy_:  see above message02:41
w3ccvpeirce141, neither do I but the ones I put there.  so  do 'sudo iptabes-save /etc/iptables.up.rules'02:41
peirce141un_operateur: alright, thanks02:41
juanoyeah but from ubuntu i can !02:41
jackson3246tonyyarusso: yeah. it's probably something like that. I think I'm gonna give it a topic on the message boards02:41
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jeeves_Mossfrogzoo:  are you in here?02:41
tonyyarussojuano: Yeah, I'd blam the sites rather than your setup02:41
n2diytest02:41
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patrikCorpseFeeder: Ok, I installed ubuntu in Virtual PC 2005 and got the same prob you are mentioning.02:41
Robojuano, different browser maybe?02:41
neopsychetest?02:41
n2diymalikeye, tnx02:41
peirce141thanks a lot guys!02:41
tonyyarusson2diy: /nick yournewnicksansunderscore02:41
CorpseFeederI have the nvidia driver run file on a USB stick. I tried to reconfigure x with the nv driver and it does not work.02:41
juanofirefox both02:41
Roboare you using firefox on both?02:41
tonyyarussodoh, he got it02:41
juanoyes02:41
Robohm02:41
ifwrn2diy, that gave me an error02:41
w3ccvpeirce141, and when you wanto to invoke the rules when you reboot  'sudo iptables-restore /etc/iptables.up.rules'02:41
malikeyeyou shouldn't need to specify a place to store the rules02:41
tonyyarussojackson3246: good plan02:41
juanomaybe any iptables rule?02:41
neopsycheok.. well.. im going to try setup on ubuntu..02:41
juanoi tried iptables -F02:41
neopsychecheerz ppl02:41
n2diyifwr, what gave you an error?02:41
CorpseFeederhow do I mount the usb stick and get the nvidia driver file off it to run it?02:41
neopsycheexit02:42
jeeves_Mossw3ccv:  are you any good with GPSD and Kismet?02:42
ifwrthe regular expression02:42
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jackson3246tonyyarusso: thanks for the help. I'll be off now02:42
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w3ccvmalikeye, if you don[t then how do you find them again?02:42
n2diyCorpseFeeder: it should automount, and bring up Nautilus.02:42
un_operateurw3ccv, you shouldnt need to do that -- iptables is a kernel module and reads from some config file -- iptables-save should suffice02:42
malikeyew3ccv: there is a default location, no ?02:42
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w3ccvjeeves_Moss, never heard of them (well hardly ever)02:42
CorpseFeederI can't get into nautilus02:42
CorpseFeederi have no graphics02:42
juanoRobo: any ideas??02:43
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CorpseFeederthe graphics dirver is on the usb drive02:43
n2diyCorpseFeeder: ok, try mount /media/usb02:43
jeeves_Mossw3ccv: ok, thanks.  I'm still trying to find some help02:43
aliendream23I( have a drive (hdd1) that the system sais is mounted to /media/hdd1, but I cannot access this drive...help?02:43
malikeyealiendream23: does 'mount' show it as mounted ?02:43
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tim167how do i install GOOGLE EARTH on UBUNTU ? thanks!02:44
w3ccvmalikeye, no - without a file name it wants the input from the stdin/stdout02:44
jeeves_Mossn2diy:  do you know anything about GPSD or Kismet?02:44
burner!google earth | tim16702:44
ubotutim167: Google Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. To download it see http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html02:44
malikeyew3ccv: not in my experience02:44
segintim167: Did you Google?02:44
aliendream23malikeye: "/dev/hdd1 on /media/hdd1 type vfat (rw)"02:44
n2diyjeeves_Moss: no not really, APRS yes.02:44
jeeves_Moss!tell jeeves_moss kismet02:44
w3ccvmalikeye, I just tried it on Edgy!!02:44
tim167yes i downloaded it, its a BIN file but i can do nothing with it02:44
malikeyealiendream23: what does ls -la /media/hdd1 say ?02:45
jeeves_Mossn2diy: APRS?  what's that?02:45
w3ccvmalikeye, and the same on FC4  - these are current versions of iptables02:45
burnertim167, double-click it?02:45
segintim167: Linux doesn't use magic .exe installers, sorry. It's meant to be used at a root shell.02:45
tim167its called GoogleEarthLinux.bin02:45
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malikeyew3ccv: that's funny, I just did without specifying a target and it worked fine02:45
n2diyjeeves_Moss: Amateur Position Reporting System, it uses gps.02:45
burnertim167, then "run"02:45
aliendream23"total 2002:45
aliendream23drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 16384 1969-12-31 19:00 .02:45
aliendream23drwxr-xr-x 9 root root  4096 2006-12-23 20:36 .."02:45
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un_operateur!google-earth | tim16702:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about google-earth - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:45
un_operateur!google earth | tim16702:46
ubotutim167: Google Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. To download it see http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html02:46
malikeyealiendream23: who are you trying to access it as ? a regular user ?02:46
w3ccvmalikeye, are you using a script in /etc/init.d02:46
burnerun_operateur, you're late to the party, i already pushed that once :P02:46
aliendream23yes02:46
timo901!beryl-trunk02:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about beryl-trunk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:46
jeeves_Mossn2diy:  I wonder if it's any better than GPSD.02:46
malikeyew3ccv: nope... iptables-save02:46
otaku-sanok I'm on kubuntu....and I'm trying to manually install firefox 2 on dapper drake...but I need the /opt...what is this directory and how do I get it02:46
un_operateurburner, gotta get me better tortoise-shoes :>02:46
burnerotaku-san, if you don't have one... "sudo mkdir /opt" :)02:46
w3ccvmalikeye, and it doesn't go the terminal window?  hmmm02:46
segintim167: The installer is not GUI. Also, Linux has an execute premission to determine if the file can be ran.02:46
malikeyew3ccv: terminal window ? this is in a terminal02:47
n2diyjeeves_Moss: I'm not familiar with GPSD, so I can't say. Google on APRS, and Xastir, for more info.02:47
otaku-sanburner: cool beans....thanks alot02:47
tim167un_operateur, burner:  run GoogleEarthLinux.bin  bash: run: command not found02:47
w3ccvmalikeye, does it go to your screen?02:47
jeeves_Mossn2diy:  it's cool, I just did. thanks for your help02:47
malikeyeI hit enter and I immediately get a prompt back02:47
burnertim167, u could open a term and type "chmod +x ~/Desktop/GoogleEarthLinux.bin && ~/Desktop/GoogleEarthLinux.bin"02:47
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un_operateurtim167, chmod a+x GoogleEarthLinux.bin; sudo ./GoogleEarthLinux.bin02:47
CorpseFeederI can't get the usb drive to work. I will brun a CD instead02:47
w3ccvmalikeye, wonder where it goes?02:47
n2diyjeeves_Moss: Nada, are you a ham?02:47
malikeyew3ccv: this is how it's worked for me forever... not sure what you are talkin abuot :)02:47
burneraww, i forgot sudo ;)02:48
Roboi'm trying to get a WUSB54Gv2 to work on my desktop and ndiswrapper isn't detecting it02:48
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Roboi'm using the right drivers but nothing's happening...02:48
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jeeves_Mossn2diy:  nope.  I'm an electronics tech.  I never got into Ham that much02:48
Roboit just says "driver loaded", but nothing about the hardware02:48
un_operateurw3ccv, iptables is not a init.d script eh -- its a kernel module -- named iptable_filter02:48
aliendream23malikeye: yes, I am trying to use this drive as a regular user02:48
n2diyjeeves_Moss: roger that, I'm a tech too.02:48
tim167un_operateur: that seems to be working...thanks02:48
malikeyealiendream23: that ls from up there, that as a normal user or as root ? what is the problem again ?02:49
w3ccvmalikeye, the way it works here on both FC4, RH9 and Edgy.  And by the man pages.02:49
un_operateurtim167, yw02:49
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malikeyew3ccv: dunno what to tell you :)02:49
aliendream23that was root, the problem is that I cannot access that drive02:49
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aliendream23...as a regular user02:49
malikeyealiendream23: so when you do that ls as a regular user ?02:49
w3ccvun_operateur, there is an exectuable that loads, lists, and saves the kernel modules02:49
w3ccvmalikeye, we have two different versions.02:50
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aliendream23total 2002:50
aliendream23drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 16384 1969-12-31 19:00 .02:50
aliendream23drwxr-xr-x 9 root root  4096 2006-12-23 20:36 ..02:50
jeeves_Mossn2diy:  did you see the latest Elektor msg from the UK?  it's got a good 30 and 80 meter DSS tuned radio02:50
segintim167: I suggest you google on Unix file premissions02:51
malikeyealiendream23: don't paste to the channel, use pastebin if you need to paste02:51
malikeye!pastebin02:51
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)02:51
n2diyjeeves_Moss: no I haven't, ya got a link?02:51
aliendream23ok02:51
segintim167: also google on BASH SHELL02:51
un_operateurw3ccv, the netfilter_iptable kernel module loads the rules, /sbin/iptables -L lists them and /sbin/iptables-save saves them02:51
malikeyew3ccv: 1.3.5.0debian1-1ubuntu202:51
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malikeyealiendream23: that was as a regular user ?02:51
aliendream23yes02:51
n2diymalikeye, lubuntu, what is that?02:51
malikeyeso you have access then02:51
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malikeyen2diy: that is a number 102:51
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n2diymalikeye, roger that.02:52
aliendream23ok...but I cannot browse it with naut.?02:52
jeeves_Mossn2diy: http://www.elektor-electronics.co.uk/02:52
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malikeyealiendream23: 'touch /<mountpoint>/test'02:52
RosieI have a question.02:52
malikeyeoh wait02:52
malikeyeyou don't have write... nevermind02:52
w3ccvun_operateur, yes, as I said.  they are in /sbin02:52
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n2diyjeeves_Moss: roger that, I'm going there now.02:52
tim167segin: i will...after i'm done wondering around in Alaska :p02:53
jeeves_Mossn2diy:  it's a good mag that's not simplistic.02:53
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malikeyealiendream23: what is your goal, I think you need to device what you want to do, before I can give security advice02:53
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un_operateurw3ccv, but not in /etc/init.d tho -- which explains why peirce141 couldnt find any iptables files there02:53
malikeyes/device/decide/02:53
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malikeyealiendream23: just a storage aread for your user ?02:53
RoboIs anybody able to help me with my problem, or are you all busy? D :02:54
aliendream23ok, I want to be able to read and write to the drive as a regular user, and have it appear in my naut.02:54
ecto1quit02:54
w3ccvun_operateur, how do I get rid of the dammed colors in a 'ls' black and whit is lats easier to read02:54
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malikeyeok, so then you want to chown username.groupname /<mountpoint>02:54
malikeyedo you know what that means ?02:54
n2diyjeeves_Moss: Interesting.02:54
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aliendream23yeah02:54
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w3ccv!ls colors02:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ls colors - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:55
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tonyyarussoRosie: Just ask.  If someone knows, they'll help.  If not, try again later, and also on the mailing list and forums.02:55
malikeyealiendream23: k, so you so the user.group should be the $username ( IE : the same )02:55
w3ccv!dirlors02:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dirlors - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:55
un_operateurw3ccv, you probably have an alias for ls that turns on colours02:55
aliendream23malikeye: operation not permitted02:55
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malikeyealiendream23: gotta sudo it02:56
aliendream23i did02:56
un_operateurw3ccv, try -- alias ls='/bin/ls'02:56
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PORDOwhat's this about? ekiga: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libopal.so.2.2: undefined symbol: speex_echo_state_init02:57
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n2diyun_operateur: shouldn't you have w3ccv look in his .bashrc file for colors?02:57
malikeyew3ccv: you need to nullify this in your .bashrc : alias ls='ls --color=auto'02:57
aliendream23I am using a root terminal, and it still won't let me do it02:57
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malikeyealiendream23: sudo chown user.group /mountpoint02:57
n2diymalikeye, never mind. :)02:58
un_operateurn2diy, just testing that it was indeed an alias doing that02:58
petafileNetwork manager isn't showing my wireless connection, but its up and running.  wireless is eth1, and its setup w/ admin>network config or whatever02:58
petafilewhy isn't it showing up in network manager?02:58
RustleWoo, ubuntu freezes on "loading linux kernel" on the installation, I ran memtest86 and it's at 68% and it's all errors02:58
Rustle:(02:58
malikeyeRustle: ugh... bad modules ?02:59
malikeyesounds like it02:59
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Rustlehmm02:59
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RustleWell something is bad, any hint towards a solution malikeye?03:00
timo901were can i find latest stable ati drivers03:00
w3ccvun_operateur, thanks  now I can read my ls on the laptop03:00
avisMerry Christmas ubuntu developers03:00
timo901its all or nothing now03:00
petafileno network manager ideas?03:00
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n2diyRustle, malikeye can't he run memtest from the boot prompt of the install cd?03:01
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RustleYea, that's where I'm running it now03:01
aliendream23malikeye, it still won't permit it03:01
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un_operateurw3ccv, it looks like you are indeed right about saving the content of iptables-save to a script in /etc/init.d --- i wonder how peirce141's tables get launched at startup03:01
markoutther1Anyone know a good program for network discovery?03:01
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aliendream23I am doing "sudo chown alienseer23.alienseer23 /media/hdd103:02
timo901i have found fglrx drivers using synaptic package manager is it safe to install them ?03:02
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un_operateurw3ccv, you might want to change the alias in ~/.bash_aliases so it sticks03:02
sephirot1Hi, i tried installing netbeans. stupid bin won't detect jdk on my box. There doesnt seem to be any configure/path options either.03:02
sephirot1any help?03:02
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Flannelsephirot1: did you install java from the repositories?03:03
RustleUbuntu it's a necessity though, I could install gentoo or something install; I need a stable OS so I can sort out a load balance with multiple nics03:03
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Rustlesort of an ethernet bond03:03
sephirot1Flannel: yes.03:03
sephirot1from the repos.03:03
Rustleisn't*03:03
Rustlesoz I'm a little stoned my sentence made no sense03:03
Flannelsephirot1: and "java --version" at a console works?03:03
malikeyeRustle: test one stick at a time, that my only advice :)03:03
Rustleok thanks03:04
w3ccvun_operateur,   grep intab /etc/init.d/*03:04
w3ccvun_operateur,   grep intab /etc/init.d/* returned nothing here too03:04
sephirot1Flannel: i can compile java source. isn't that enough?03:04
sephirot1but let me check and get back03:04
aliendream23malikeye: what would prevent that from being permitted?03:04
RosieI am just so sick of the ubuntu forums' staff03:04
srothrocI can't seem to get wireless to work on my laptop, either.03:04
Flannelsephirot1: yeah, that's good enough03:04
srothrocIntel Pro 2200BG.03:04
RosieThey are one of the most anal staffs in existence03:04
malikeyealiendream23: I dunno... thinking03:04
RustleWould there be a linux bootable memory repair disk anywhere? or something of the sort03:04
RosieAt least, the few mods that ban on the sight of anything03:04
Flannelsephirot1: netbeans must be using a set location, instead of using the PATH.03:05
aviswhere do they linger on freenode, ubuntu developers ?03:05
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srothrocFrankly, I don't even know how to find out whether or not I'm even seeing any networks...03:05
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un_operateurw3ccv, grep intab ?  :)03:05
Madpilotavis, #ubuntu-devel03:05
avisthank you03:05
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juanoi need help with my xp machine from LAN, cant go in hotmail.com or msn.com but everywhere else seems ok03:06
sephirot1so how do i get it to see the SUN java SE? i've got blackdown java installed as well. but afterwards installed the sun's bin package.03:06
babymausiwolfhi, is it possible to upgrade to breezy without breezy cd03:06
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dibblegowpa03:06
dibblego!wpa03:06
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:06
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srothrocActually, interesting... it seems like I'm running in IPv6?03:06
srothrocYeah, I looked there, ubotu.03:06
babymausiwolfwarty03:06
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bradywhat is the package to install the standard gnome desktop? i installed from a server disk b/c that was all that was available.03:07
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Flannelbrady: "ubuntu-desktop"03:07
burnerubuntu-desktop03:07
Flannelbrady: and, you'll want to change to the -generic kernel as well, away from the -server one03:07
babymausiwolfis it possible to upgrade to breezy from warty without breezy cd03:07
malikeyealiendream23: you are sure that that user and that group exist ?03:07
w3ccvun_operateur, I much prefer xchat to gaim, but doesn't want to install on Edgy  got any ideas  apt-get says it is a broken package03:07
aliendream23yeah,03:07
Flannelbabymausiwolf: yes.  You need to go warty > hoary > breezy03:08
Flannel!upgrade | babymausiwolf03:08
ubotubabymausiwolf: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes03:08
aliendream23it's the only one I put on here03:08
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aliendream23just checked it also to make sure03:08
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babymausiwolfthx03:08
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burnerbabymausiwolf, short answer, you have to go to hoary, then breezy03:08
malikeyealiendream23: can you pastebin a ls -la /media ?03:08
malikeyenot that it will tell me anything :)03:09
un_operateurw3ccv, I think you might want to install xchat2 or x-chat2 (cant remember which)03:09
aliendream23hang on03:09
malikeyekonversation is nice... but dependent on kde stuff03:09
bradyFlannel, thanks for the help. Does the kernel issue apply to ppc (uname -a would suggest not)?03:09
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Flannelw3ccv: xchat is in universe, xchat-gnome is in main03:09
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Flannelbrady: this is what, edgy? dapper?03:10
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tigafan09 Is anyone familiar with the problem with Jmicron?03:11
Flannelbrady: ah, it does appear that -server is only in effect in 386 and amd64.03:11
bradyFlannel, edgy.03:11
aliendream23malikeye: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38607/03:11
Flannelbrady: so yes, I suppose you needn't worry about your kernel03:11
w3ccvFlannel, xchat-gnome might load - trying to connect to us.archive now.03:11
tigafan09 Is there a patch or something to allow ubuntu to work with jmicron?03:12
sephirot1Flannel: seems i've to use `netbeans_install.bin -is:javahome  path_to_jdk `03:12
timo901how do i check if my ati driver install was successful03:12
sephirot1So how do i find the path_to_jdk?03:12
wastrel"hello"03:12
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un_operateurtimo901, run the glxgears program03:12
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tigafan09 can someone please help me?03:13
un_operateur!anybody | tigafan0903:13
ubotutigafan09: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?03:13
Flannelsephirot1: well, 'which java' will give you the path to the compiler.  I don't know if it wants that, or if it wants the path to the libraries.03:13
malikeyealiendream23: for the hell of it : chmod 777 /media/hdd1 && chown alienseer23.alienseer23 /media/hdd1 && chmod 755 /media/hdd103:13
timo901un_operateur:  gears has always worked03:13
sephirot1Flannel: k- thanks.03:13
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malikeyeoh WAIT... what kind of FS is this aliendream23 ?03:14
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un_operateurtimo901, the load which it puts on the system should be greatly lessened if the right drivers are installed03:14
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tigafan09 I've installed Ubuntu 6.10 via alternate cd and am having trouble with it because of the whole Jmicron IDE controller conflict... is there a patch or something that I can install?03:14
Flannelmalikeye, aliendream23.  Nooo.  Don't do that.03:14
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malikeyeFlannel: why ?03:14
towsonu2003tigafan09, is this what you mean: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/5750203:14
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ragnar_123well, i am off to sleep, merry x-mas all!03:15
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un_operateurmalikeye, why are you having to change permissions like that?03:15
Flannelmalikeye, aliendream23: because that'll screw up his drive forever, and is NOT the 'fix' you want.  He should instead be fixing that issue with mount options (umask, or whatever brethren of it for his FS)03:15
malikeyeun_operateur: cause his fs is stuck :)03:15
aliendream23same thing03:15
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aliendream23not permitted03:16
malikeyeFlannel: what are you talkin about ?03:16
tigafan09 towsonu2003: Yes, that's my problem. I'm running on an Asus P5W DH Deluxe Mobo, it had the Jmicron chip03:16
Flannelmalikeye: changing the mount options is the fix he wants.03:16
aliendream23unmask??03:16
malikeyehuh ?03:16
malikeyealiendream23: do a mount... is it mount readonly ?03:16
Captain_RedbeardBah... what file is thermal information written to?03:16
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malikeyethat will most certainly NOT screw up his drive forever03:16
un_operateurFlannel, screw up the drive forever??03:16
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trev__if i want to use bittorent do i have to configure ip table or use firestarter?03:16
aliendream23how about this, I will unmount this thing to start from fresh03:16
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towsonu2003tigafan09, according to that, a fix is available in feisty, which isn't released yet. but this still seems a problem without a patch: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/6457403:17
malikeyealiendream23: is it mounted readonly ?03:17
Flannelun_operateur: well, the current permissions, so... all the current data.  For good.  I suppose not the drive itself03:17
skeetoI attached my IPOD to my USB and nothing popped up on my desktop03:17
malikeyepastebin the mount output03:17
malikeyethere is no data03:17
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malikeyeand it would only affect the directory03:17
malikeyenothing in it03:17
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w3ccvskeeto, does it show in df03:17
jimmygoonCan someone help me? - I have a CF->IDE adaptor and when I plug it into my Thinkpad 570 the Bios will not let me set it as bootable03:18
un_operateurFlannel, it's quite likely to do anything as the permissions are applied on the mount-point itself not what it points to03:18
un_operateurnot*03:18
aliendream23http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38609/03:18
Flannelmalikeye, aliendream23, man mount will explain umask, dmask/fmask/whatever it is for your filesystem.  Scroll down to find the section on the FS type you're mounting03:18
skeetow3ccv what is df?03:18
w3ccvskeeto, not all devices soow on the desktp all the time - dont ' rely on the desktop03:18
skeeto<--- = noob03:18
malikeyeun_operateur: well to the filesystem, really... it's already mounted so, technically you are changing the filesystem03:18
un_operateurFlannel, in anycase -- the permissions can always be reset by root03:18
w3ccvskeeto, a command line utiiityu - shows dosk space on all mounted devices03:18
malikeyeFlannel: umask has nothing to do with this03:18
Flannelun_operateur: eh, that's true.  I thought I saw a -R in there, which wouldve.03:18
bradywill ubuntu take advantage of xorg splitting all of the video drivers into different pieces?03:19
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malikeyehmm... it's mounted rw, so that's good03:19
skeeto/dev/sda2 /mnt/ipod vfat user,noauto,umask=000 0 003:19
skeetooops03:19
w3ccvskeeto, it you iPod is mounte it probably will be /media/ipod03:19
malikeyealiendream23: touch /media/hdd1/test03:19
un_operateurmalikeye, if you used a -R in the chmod/chown then the contents of the drive would be changed, but you arent doing that so nothing is03:19
malikeyedoes it let you write there ?03:19
skeetoskeeto@ubuntu:~$ df03:19
skeetoFilesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on03:19
skeeto/dev/sda1             93382888   8448300  80191000  10% /03:19
skeetotmpfs                   517784         0    517784   0% /dev/shm03:19
skeetotmpfs                   517784     12588    505196   3% /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile03:19
malikeyeun_operateur: yup, I know03:20
davieyHi, does anybody know of a 3-way videoconferencing software that is compatible with windows?03:20
un_operateurskeeto, oi03:20
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un_operateur!paste | skeeto03:20
ubotuskeeto: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)03:20
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skeetook sorry03:20
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malikeyebut to change a mounted filesystems mount point is to actually change the FS, not the mountpoint03:20
aliendream23cannot touch, permission denied03:20
w3ccvskeeto, nope it's not mounted.03:20
malikeyethere you have it03:20
malikeyesomething is wrong with the FS03:20
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malikeyealiendream23: you sudo'd that ?03:21
tigafan09 towsuno2003: So is there anything i can do?03:21
skeetoso how do I mount it?03:21
malikeyealiendream23: does /var/log/messages or dmesg show any disk errors when you try to write to the disk ?03:21
trev_is there anything specail you have to do in ubuntu to run bitorent?03:21
aliendream23no error with sudo03:21
malikeyeso sudo works03:21
malikeye?03:22
skeetotrev:  I just went to the torrent and hit download and clicked open03:22
aliendream23yes03:22
malikeyek03:22
malikeyehmm03:22
malikeyedo a chmod 777 /media/hdd103:22
davieyHi, does anybody know of a 3-way videoconferencing (full-screen) software that is compatible with windows?  It also needs to be easily installed, with no firewall forwarding for the windows users.03:22
trev_ok, i just read in the forum that bittornado is brocken right now so ill switch to azerious03:22
aliendream23ok03:23
malikeyeoh wait... vfat doesn't honor permissions03:23
malikeyeyou need to open it wide, I think03:24
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aliendream23how do I change the mount options?03:24
malikeyeI think.03:24
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tigafan09 towsuno2003: So is there anything i can do to get it to work with Jmicron? or do i have to wait til feisty?03:24
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para ~~   bb03:24
w3ccv!archives03:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about archives - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:24
jeff2how can I make ubuntu not lock my desktop when I close the lid?03:24
Ashton_KHello.03:24
malikeyedid you chmod 777 it ?03:24
w3ccv!apt-get03:24
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)03:24
Ppjet6hi , is there someone using cedega here ?03:24
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Ashton_KMost reports I've heard of Cedega weren't too promising, tbh.03:25
para ~~ !apt-get  bb03:25
tigafan09 !Synaptic (Gnome)03:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Synaptic (Gnome) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:25
aliendream23ok03:25
para ~~ !apt-get  bb03:25
aliendream23yes I did, it didn't change anything.....but03:25
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aliendream23I did this sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart03:25
tigafan09 Is there any known way to get ubuntu to work with Jmicron?03:25
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aliendream23and it shows up in naut.03:25
aliendream23locked up, but shows up03:26
jazzKazhi everybody, i have a problem: the /var partition should be mounted before than start the rcS, how i do ? a bootparam ?03:26
malikeyehmmm03:26
Ashton_Kfstab03:26
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inuyasharenegadewhat is that norton software for clearing partitions called?03:26
Ashton_KGo to /etc/fstab I think.03:26
malikeyethis might be a umask thing...03:26
Ppjet6Anyone using cedega ?03:26
Ashton_KTHat's the file that controls the automounts.03:26
tigafan09 Is there any known way to get ubuntu to work with Jmicron?03:26
jazzKazfstab is S3503:26
malikeyemy apologies Flannel if you were right :)03:26
burnerPpjet6, no, but i use wine :)03:26
jazzKazi need before03:26
aliendream23how do I unmask?03:26
Ppjet6burner: i want to play wow, so .. :)03:27
malikeyealiendream23: check this out : http://edge-op.org/grouch/fatperm.html03:27
skeeto!mount03:27
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter03:27
Ashton_KWine's okay, but games that use stuff like PunkBuster will probably kick you.03:27
burner!vfat | aliendream2303:27
ubotualiendream23: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse03:27
malikeyealiendream23: there are a couple approaches.. if you don't care who sees it... leave it 77703:27
malikeyeif you do care, read that page03:27
inuyasharenegadeanyone know how to clear partitions so i dont have gnub error anymore when trying to load new system up03:27
un_operateuraliendream23, do you have a pastebin of your current fstab, mtab files and the mount command?03:27
burnerwine works for Warcraft 3 and starcraft :)03:27
Ashton_Kjoin #madwifi03:27
Ashton_KOops03:27
tigafan09 Is there any known way to get ubuntu to work with Jmicron?03:28
Ppjet6burner: if you explain me i would use wow ^^03:28
Ppjet6*will03:28
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wastrelwhat's jmicron03:28
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Ppjet6** wine :P03:28
burnerPpjet6, just install from the repositories from winehq.com ... then wine blah.exe03:29
Ashton_KWastrel, sounds like a chipset?03:29
Ashton_KSome sort of CPU architecture?03:29
Ashton_K(Maybe)03:29
Ppjet6burner: yes, done, but no results :/03:29
tigafan09 Jmicron is and IDE Controller on Intel motherboards, I've been burning up google all day and can figure out no way to get it to work with linux03:29
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tigafan09 any ideas?03:29
Ppjet6burner: just X crash :)03:29
srothrocHow can you make sure Ubuntu is trying to authenticate for wireless networking using a WEP key?03:30
Ashton_KIDE as in, your HD's don't work without it?03:30
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un_operateurmalikeye, were you asking him to umask=777?? :)03:30
Ashton_KOh yeah. While I'm here.03:30
cyphase"To date, there are no reports of actual attacks against Windows users."03:30
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Ashton_KCan anyone tell me whether RAID can be used to backup an individual partition, or must it be across the whole Hard Drive?03:31
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Ashton_K(RAID 1, to be specific)03:31
malikeyeun_operateur: no.. I said to change the permissions to 777 to see if we could change anything about it03:31
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trev_when you guys download videos off google video as .avi can you watch them in fullscreen on your computer?03:31
Ashton_KSure.03:31
tigafan09 The HD works oddly, i'm not sure if that plug is Jmicron or not though, but my ide optical drive doesn't work which i believe is the reason why i can't get into anything under the PLACES menu and my desktop isn't fuctioning at al03:31
jeeves_Mossall: can someone help me with GPSD?03:31
w3ccvapt-get install xchat-gnome times out trying to connect to  us.archives.ubuntu.org  - ORG.  but all lines in /etc/apt/sources.list have .COM  ??03:31
un_operateurmalikeye, did he have a umask set for the mount point?03:31
IndyGUnFreaktrev, i don't know about google, but I watch avi's in full screen w/o issue03:31
Ashton_KThe resolution of the video might be a problem, might be a bit.... grainy.03:32
malikeyethen I remembered that fat/vfat has weird permissions03:32
Ashton_KBut you can play it.03:32
Ashton_KTry using VLC03:32
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malikeyeun_operateur: don't know.. didn't see his fstab....03:32
malikeyes/his/their/03:32
markoutther1anyone know why I am getting this when trying to install nagios with apt-get?03:32
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markoutther1E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)03:32
knappAre there any graphical frontends for FFmpeg? I'm trying to convert a VOB to AVI.03:32
Ashton_KMark, did you use sudo?03:32
un_operateurw3ccv, the server seems down03:32
trev_knapp:, not any good ones that i found03:32
malikeyeun_operateur: that was bad PD... I shoulda asked for fstab in the beginning03:33
markoutther1E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?03:33
un_operateurmarkoutther1, you might need to sudo that command03:33
markoutther1No, should I ?03:33
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IndyGUnFreakyes03:33
markoutther1Like what sudo apt-get install .....03:33
IndyGUnFreakthats why it asked if you were root..lol03:33
un_operateurmarkoutther1, yes03:33
srothrocOr, here's another question to ignore: Why is it that I can specify the ESSID, but when checking iwconfig, I see that the AP's MAC address doesn't match the AP's actual MAC address?03:33
markoutther1thanks guys, new to this linux stuff03:33
IndyGUnFreakah, it happens03:34
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IndyGUnFreakyou'll come here a lot.03:34
goukiTesting something: still system anything - ignore this03:34
malikeyeun_operateur: I shouldn't have been so quick to squash Flannels input :)03:34
un_operateursrothroc, routers and switches have multiple mac addresses -- one for each ethernet interface03:34
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w3ccvun_operateur,  ok, I thought there was a boobo in my files.  I'll just keep.  Actually there is no DNS entry for it.  (did a nslookup)03:34
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w3ccvs/a/an/03:34
un_operateurmalikeye, what did you say to Flannel ?03:34
NineTeen67CometHello all .. any video editor individuals in here? I've got a project to work on. I've got 5 camera angels, and am in the process of copying all the audio/video off the tapes to the hd so I can edit them .. But I would like to use the sound off one of the videos as the video .. and sync all the rest to that sound .. possible?03:34
sephirot1Umm...guys. still no progress. I've got sun-java5-jdk installed and i am unable to get the NetBeans installer to identify the jdk path03:34
Ashton_KAnyone here know much about RAID 1 in here?03:35
Ashton_K(Hooray redundant sentence structure)03:35
malikeyeI dismissed umask entirely without knowing 100% on my own that it was that way03:35
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markoutther1Now it says E: Couldn't find package nagios does this mean I cant install with apt-get?03:35
un_operateurw3ccv, you can always use another mirror in the meantime -- sudo perl -i.bak -pe 's/ubuntu/uk\.ubuntu/' /etc/apt/sources.list03:35
srothrocI'm trying to figure out why my wireless isn't working; if the MAC address is fine, then it's seeing the AP fine. Checking iwconfig shows a bunch of errors for "Rx invalid crypt", which I take to mean that my key is invalid. I've retyped it half a dozen times now.03:35
tigafan09 anyone else in here have Jmicron on their mobo?03:36
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trev_does anyone know what to do if your nvidea card won't display videos in fullscreen?03:36
goukitesting something: still system03:36
un_operateursrothroc, I'd make sure that both sides were talking the same authentication and encryption protocols -- 64/128bit WEP vs WPA, etc03:37
skeetoif you have a brand new IPOD and are going to connect it to a Windows machine later and sometimes a Linux machine do you format the IPOD filesystem to vfat?03:37
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srothrocHence my previous question -- how to ensure that the ubuntu side is actually talking 64-bit WEP?03:38
bradywhat is the process to convert my ubuntu install to turkish?03:38
bradydpkg-reconfigure ...03:38
un_operateurskeeto, an ipod has its own format i think -- most probably apple's hfs/hfs+ or something like it03:39
malikeyedo they stil use hfs ? I thought they stopped making windows vs mac ipods03:39
bradyskeeto, mac ipods are hfs, win ipods are fat03:39
un_operateursrothroc, i'm not too sure as i dont run wireless on my linux machine -- iwconfig --help might give you an indicator03:39
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un_operateurmalikeye, an ipod is an ipod -- no windows or apple specific ones ..03:40
Ashton_KDoes anyone know if RAID 1 has to mirror the whole disc, or can it merely mirror a single partition?03:40
tigafan09 anyone else in here have Jmicron on their mobo?03:40
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malikeyedo they do an initial format during setup ? I don't know if windows supports HFS03:40
Ashton_KMalikeye, in order to access an iPod, you have to go through separate software.03:41
un_operateurAshton_K, Raid1 does no mirroring03:41
Ashton_KLike iTunes, so whether Windows supports HFS is unimportant?03:41
Ashton_K*.03:41
Ashton_KUn, wait what?03:41
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malikeyeAshton_K: not really.. if wondows can't see the partition then it can't use it03:41
un_operateurAshton_K, err sorry -- it does, i'm confusing it with RAID203:41
Ashton_KOn an iPod?03:41
malikeyeyeah03:42
Ashton_KNo, that's not important.03:42
malikeyethe partition is most important03:42
Ashton_KBecause in order to write to an iPod, you have to use separate software.03:42
Ashton_KThat software, can see HFS.03:42
malikeyeitunes can't magically see HFS if the windows kernel doesn't support it03:42
Ashton_KWindows, can see the USB port.03:42
un_operateurmalikeye, windows sees the partition using the ipod driver03:42
malikeyethere is an ipod driver ?03:42
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Ashton_KProbably in iTunes.03:42
un_operateurmalikeye, sure, just as there is for any hardware03:42
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Ashton_KNow the question is, is there an iPod driver for Linux?03:43
Ashton_K(Or module, even)03:43
malikeyeI'm not sure about that... its just a harddrive to the OS03:43
un_operateurAshton_K, sure03:43
deebusis there a way to list the user accounts on a machine at the command line?  other than less-ing the /etc/passwd?03:43
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un_operateurmalikeye, and harddrives (or the controllers to be precise) dont need drivers??03:43
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malikeyethey do03:44
MistaEDAshton_K: yeah i plug in my ipod all the time and it comes up as ipod with a nice ipod icon ;) but it works just as if it were an external drive03:44
bradythis ipod talk is not very important in this channel.03:44
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Ashton_KWhich is probably even handier than going through software.03:44
archangelpetrodoes anyone have issues writing to USB mem sticks?03:44
Ashton_KNo.03:44
malikeyeyup... looks like there is a driver... but that doesn't change the whole FS thing03:44
un_operateurmalikeye, it;s more like a peripheral more than an external storage device -- it does need a driver to be able to translate win32 specific commands to its own03:44
deebusanyone know how to list user accounts at the command line?03:44
Ashton_KMake sure your thumb drive is formatted as FAT.03:44
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Ashton_K(Mine is FAT 16, but it's a 256 meg one)03:44
archangelpetrospecifically.. trying to write files03:45
Ashton_KNo.03:45
Ashton_KNo problems.03:45
Ashton_KMake sure it's formatted as FAT.03:45
archangelpetrodeebus, cat /etc/passwd03:45
Ashton_KAnd that it's mounted (Although I think Ubuntu auto mounts)03:45
deebusother than that03:45
deebusreally, I just want a list that's super easy to tokenize03:45
bradydeebus why?03:45
tigafan09 what is the risk of messing up an ntfs drive when writing to it in ubuntu?03:45
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Ashton_KThey claim it's stable, but I'd imagine it's a possibility.03:45
deebusto parse through my /var/log/auth.log and alert me when a brutessh attack hits a correct user account name03:46
Ashton_KSince I think NTFS is supposed to be a closed format.03:46
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un_operateurdeebus, maybe -- perl -lne 'print /^([^:] *?):/' /etc/passwd03:46
ubuntuhi all03:46
tigafan09 and when in windows and writing to a ext3 drive, is there a risk of screwing it up?03:46
morvokhow about ls /home??03:47
un_operateurtigafan09, sure, just as there is when using an NTFS driver on linux03:47
ubuntuhello to everyone03:47
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RustleRight03:47
deebusaw jeez...03:47
deebusls /home...03:47
deebusI am an retard03:47
Ashton_KI'd imagine windows to ext3 is safer than Linux to NTFS03:47
Ashton_KSince the ext3 driver is open source, and easily converted to windows.03:48
malikeyefrom apple.com : "If configured for a Mac, the iPod will be restored as Mac OS Extended (HFS Plus). If configured for Windows, the iPod will be restored as FAT32."03:48
CorpseFeederwhat is the apt-get commands to install make, gcc and linux-headers packages?03:48
Ashton_KBut windows didn't exactly hand us an NTFS driver.03:48
deebusthank, you morvok.  apparently I'm riding the short bus tonight03:48
un_operateurdeebus, thats only going to list the users who have logged on03:48
Ashton_Kapt-get linux-headers`uname -r` I think03:48
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morvokdeebus: don't worry half the time I am the team leader driving the bus03:48
Ashton_KNotice the back ticks (Those aren't apostrophes)03:48
deebuslol03:48
un_operateurdeebus, or those whose home directories have been created03:48
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malikeye"You cannot use an iPod whose disk is configured for Macintosh on a Windows-compatible computer"03:48
stormchas3rhow do i change my hostname in ubuntu server?03:48
Ashton_KSo, does anyone know? Can RAID 1 mirror a partition, or must it mirror the whole drive?03:49
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deebusoperateur:  that's fine, that's all I really need for right now, I think03:49
un_operateurdeebus, best you parse /etc/passwd03:49
deebusugh.  oh well03:49
davieyHi, does anybody know of a 3-way videoconferencing (full-screen) software that is compatible with windows?  It also needs to be easily installed, with no firewall forwarding for the windows users.03:49
deebusI'll have to whip up a script sometime when I'm not being an retarded03:49
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Ashton_KDaviey, Skype.03:49
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un_operateurdeebus, this ought to do it -- perl -lne 'print /^([^:] *?):/' /etc/passwd03:50
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Ashton_KIt'll do video conferencing, and it'll do multi-way calling. Don't know if it'll do both at once though.03:50
Ashton_KThere are linux and windows variants available.03:50
davieyAshton_K, does skype support video on linux?03:50
CorpseFeedereverything I type into apt-get on command line is just giving me illegal operation error03:50
Ashton_KTo my knowledge, yes.03:50
w3ccvAsh-Fox, I think the vido is available only for XP  -  W2k doesn't03:50
deebuswow, thanks oper03:51
Ashton_KGetting Linux to like your webcam might be an interesting task though.03:51
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deebusregex ninja03:51
w3ccvAshton_K, , I think the vido is available only for XP  -  W2k doesn't03:51
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davieyAshton_K, i have the webcam working, but cannot find the setting on skype for it!03:51
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NixNewbCan i have both KDE and Gnome on the same system?03:51
Daoi03:51
malikeyeNixNewb: certainly03:51
Dahello all03:51
w3ccvdaveyates, video is XP only - dammit03:51
morvokcorpse-feeder: are you running it as root?03:51
deebusthanks all.  piece out03:52
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NixNewbdo you have the link to the wiki page to do that or point me in the right direction?03:52
deebusoh yeah...I said p-i-e-c-e out03:52
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NixNewbcause I'm seeing kubuntu, a whole 'nother installation03:52
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moilhow do I set permissions on a samba share to allow a remote user to edit/move/delete files03:52
malikeyeNixNewb: just install them both, when you get the X login screen you can choose by changing the session option03:52
OlatheDoes anyone know how to configure /etc/network/interfaces to use WPA personal AES ?03:53
malikeyeNixNewb: aptitude install gnome ?03:53
NixNewbso it would be "sudo apt-get install kde"?03:53
malikeyeyou already have KDE, right ?03:53
NixNewbI have gnome installed already, cause thats what was on the disk03:53
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malikeyeok, I read that wrong up there... yeah that would work03:54
Spaghetti_KnifeHow do I play dvd's on my computer? I look at the desktop, and I don't see an icon.03:54
NixNewbbut the pages i'm looking at say I have to get another distro, kubuntu03:54
CorpseFeederit is logged in as root, all I am getting is illegal operation from apt-get03:54
malikeyeNixNewb: nah... don't need to do that03:54
junior_cronoshello03:54
morvokcorpseFeeder: what are you typing in?03:54
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malikeyeNixNewb: try that command, it's gonna ask you to confirm installation anyway03:54
NixNewbokay03:54
Spaghetti_KnifeHow do I play dvd's?03:54
Spaghetti_KnifeI can't find the dvd icon.03:55
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NixNewbPackage kde is not available, but is referred to by another package.03:55
NixNewbThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or03:55
NixNewbis only available from another source03:55
Ashton_KTry /media/hdc?03:55
malikeye!libdvdcss03:55
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages03:55
Ashton_KOr whatever your mount folder is.03:55
Ashton_KTry VLC03:55
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junior_cronoshello im brazilian03:56
Ashton_KI've yet to have it refuse a video file.03:56
CorpseFeedersudo apt-get linux-headers or sudo apt-get linux-headers`uname -r` or sudo apt-get linux-headers-`uname -r` or sudo apt-get pyjamas/pork chop/underpants... it doesn't matter what... it just responds with illegal operation03:56
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vox754!brasil03:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about brasil - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:56
Ashton_Klol03:56
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junior_cronosspeaking portuquese?03:56
cmwebhow do i unzip in ssh?03:56
Ashton_KDo we have a Brasilian or Portuguese forum?03:56
morvokCorpseFeeder: sudo apt-get install foo03:56
malikeyeNixNewb: sudo aptitude install kde works for me03:56
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aliendream23I fixed the problem by editing my fstab and doing an unmount and remnount, restarting the x server and bashing my head into the monitor a few times, thanks :)03:57
CorpseFeederaha! install03:57
Ashton_Kcnweb, is it a tarball file?03:57
Ashton_K(.tar.gz, or .tar.bz203:57
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Ashton_K*)03:57
cmwebAshton_K, no zp03:57
vox754!bra03:57
Ashton_KTry tar -xf filename03:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bra - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:57
Ashton_Klol03:57
cmweb!bot abuse03:57
vox754!br03:57
ubotuPlease don't play with the bots, or else... Also see !behaviour and !msgthebot03:57
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.03:57
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moilhow do I set permissions on a samba share to allow a remote user to edit/move/delete files03:57
NixNewbhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.com/84403903:57
Ashton_KHrm, I dunno, is there an open source zip file?03:58
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Ashton_KSeems all we use are tarballs.03:58
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jeeves_MossAshton_K: do you know anything about GPSD?03:58
cmwebtar: This does not look like a tar archive03:58
cmwebtar: Skipping to next header03:58
cmwebtar: Archive contains obsolescent base-64 headers03:58
cmwebtar: Error exit delayed from previous errors03:58
NixNewbwould I need to change where apt-get is checking03:58
malikeyeNixNewb: try aptitude03:58
xbrcholy christ there is alot of people in here03:58
burnermoil, you have to set local permissions on it that way03:58
NixNewbokay03:58
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malikeyeapt-get works for me too03:58
moilas in right click - properties?03:59
malikeyeyou might need universe for kde, not sure03:59
NixNewbawesome, that seems to have done the trick malikeye03:59
burnermoil, yea03:59
malikeyeweird03:59
Ashton_KYeah, cnweb, the tar command won't work for zips.03:59
NixNewbI thiought aptitude was some sort of slang03:59
Ashton_K:P03:59
NixNewbI'll log off adn see if I can switch03:59
NixNewbThank you03:59
malikeyewelcome03:59
vox754!kde-desktop03:59
NixNewboh nevermind03:59
cmwebAshton_K, i know that03:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kde-desktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:59
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moilI tried opening up permissions that way but it didn't seem to do anything03:59
vox754!kde03:59
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE03:59
cmwebAshton_K, i need a way to unzip though03:59
NixNewbI just saw text and didn't bother reading it03:59
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vox754!tell malikeye about kde04:00
xbrccan someone answer me this: how do I get permissions? I installed ntfs g3.. long story short.. i went through the disk utility because everything else doesn't seem as it is working.. i click on browse and it tells me i dont have permissions to browse..04:00
Spaghetti_KnifeI think my Ubuntu doesn't recognize my cd drive.04:00
NixNewbhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.com/84404204:00
Spaghetti_KnifeHow do I change that?04:00
Dotkk who wants to help me04:00
Dot:[04:00
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cmweb:'(04:00
malikeyevox754: that is the distro04:00
Dot(oh btw the forums suck)04:01
Doti have an issue with themes04:01
malikeyevox754: NixNewb is looking for just kde04:01
Doti installed the t-ish theme04:01
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malikeyeaptitude install kde should work04:01
Dotand the scrollbar dosent change to the trippy blue and round one04:01
cmwebi hate freebsd04:01
vox754!tell xbrc about chmod04:01
Dotit stays the same ugly square one04:02
NixNewbwell, i'll log out and check to see if I can switch04:02
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malikeyeNixNewb: one sec04:02
NixNewbok04:02
Dotany help?04:02
vox754!tell NixNewb about kde04:02
cmwebCan i just change the extention and do the regular command? (from .zip to .tar)04:02
malikeyeNixNewb: that didn't install anything for you... you might have KDE already04:02
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Dotheloooo04:03
malikeyeNixNewb: aptitude install kubuntu-desktop... see what it wants to install04:03
cmweb!kde | nixNewb04:03
ubotunixNewb: KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE04:03
Spaghetti_KnifeCan somebody help me? My ubuntu doesn't recognize my dvd.04:03
vox754!dvd04:03
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages04:03
Dothelo04:03
Dothelp me04:03
DotD:04:04
NixNewbyay, lots of text04:04
vox754!patience04:04
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines04:04
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Madpilotubotu, enter | Dot04:04
ubotuDot: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!04:04
malikeyekubuntu-desktop is gonna pull in a whole lot of stuff04:04
NixNewbIts Getting right now04:04
malikeyeyou probably already had kde installed04:04
Dotwell it would be nice if i could get a response04:05
NixNewbDoes it come installed on the default setup?04:05
malikeyewhich version did you install ?04:05
NixNewbEdgy04:05
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malikeyenormal edgy ?04:05
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NixNewb64 bit from the website04:05
xbrcis there a graphical way to change permissions on a drive?04:05
malikeyeweird04:05
Dotthe irc is worse than the forums :[04:05
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cmwebdot, whats the problem04:06
malikeye!anybody04:06
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?04:06
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Acu_today, nothing is working - I have 40 GB in a Debian RC1 machine - I want to burn it on Double Layer - doesnot work - I want to transfer to a windows laptop (it does it at 599kb /min) - I attach a RW DVD and it writes with 36k b/min - I attache a Porshe Design Lacie External Hardisk (280GB) but I cannot write on it from Linux - what the heck is that?04:06
malikeyeDot: just ask... if someone can help, they will... that's why we're here :)04:06
burnerDot, so your T-ish theme doesn't work... maybe it uses a gtk-engine that you don't have?04:06
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cmwebDot, the way you ask and the way you act affect how your question is answered04:07
Dotid think so04:07
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CheyenneIs there a easy graphical way to use Samba in 6.0604:07
Dotit dosent say, i dont think ill check04:07
idlemindcheyenne webmin04:07
Acu_Cheyenne: there is GSAMBAD - but I do not know how good it is04:08
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NixNewbThanks for the help so mailkeye, I appreciate it04:08
igorMarry Cristmans for everybody04:08
malikeyeCheyenne: swat04:08
malikeye!swat04:08
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT04:08
burnercbeyenne, nautilus as a client... and right click "share" via nautilus?04:08
malikeyeNixNewb: you are welcome.. not sure why you needed the whole desktop though... kinda irking me :)04:08
CheyenneI was going to have 4 USB 250GB HD's to be my file server on 6.0604:09
jrobinsonnice04:09
rpereiraDoes someone know how to sync Evolution+GmailContacts+GoogleCalendar?04:09
NixNewbWell, I just want to see what it looks like and see which GUI I prefer.  Gnome looks kind of ugly04:09
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cmweb rpereira, if you get an answer to that let me know please04:09
rpereiraI don't know if I have to use OpenSync or MultiSync.04:10
CheyenneFor 5 Win XP and one Mac to host all of my files04:10
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deebusum, can anyone tell me what user "gnats" is supposed to be?04:11
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wastrelapt-cache search gnats04:11
jrobinsondoes anyone know how well ubuntu runs on the shiny new HP entertainment notebooks?04:11
burnerkiller ;)04:11
burnerubuntu is killer on everything :)04:11
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jrobinsonk04:12
CheyenneCan Ubuntu tun on a IBM Thinkpad 390E?04:12
jrobinsoni heard some other people were having problems with the acpi on the notebook model i'm looking at04:12
wastrelhttp://www.linux-laptop.net/04:12
jrobinsonyeah04:12
jrobinsonthat's where I looked04:12
TheAspCheyenne: assuming it supports WOL and it's plugged into a network, any dist could turn it on :)04:12
jrobinsoni think I'll just buy it and return as needed04:12
burneri'd check the wiki for the hardwaresupport and laptoptestingteam04:13
Spaghetti_KnifeWhen I pop it in, it starts running,04:13
CheyenneI ment to say Run On04:13
CheyenneSorry.04:13
ToHellWithGAhow can i build or install very large console fonts?  my monitor is far from me and i can run 1280x1024 with fat fonts on the LCD (about 160 dpi)04:13
deebushm.  interesting04:13
deebusthx again04:13
Spaghetti_KnifeWhen I pop my dvd in, it starts running, but nothing pops up.04:13
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malikeyeNixNewb: not why you chose it, why the kde metapackage didn't work :)04:13
Spaghetti_KnifeI don't think Ubuntu recognizes my dvd player.04:13
Spaghetti_KnifeCan anybody help?04:13
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TheAspSpaghetti_Knife: have you followed the multimedia instructions?04:14
burnerSpaghetti_Knife, you have the dvd codecs?04:14
burner!dvd04:14
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages04:14
NixNewboh okay, that makes more sense04:14
Starcraftmazteryo, when I play divx encoded .avi files in mplayer, the video is bouncing, anyone know why?04:14
malikeye:)04:14
Spaghetti_KnifeYes, I do.04:14
malikeyeNixNewb: check out xfce too04:14
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Starcraftmazterwhy?04:14
Spaghetti_KnifeI even have libdvdread3.04:14
burner!avi | Starcraftmazter04:14
ubotuStarcraftmazter: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:14
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NixNewbrodger04:14
Spaghetti_Knifebut when I command line the way they say I should, it says that there is no such command.04:15
Dotubuntu looks engine D:<04:15
mythos__good morning04:15
Dotic my prb thax04:15
Starcraftmazterit's not really my choice, it's off channel BT04:15
jrobinsondo you think I should buy a notebook for myself before or after christmas?04:16
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w3ccv04:16
pegs-using-e17Spaghetti_Knife: have you installed all the necessary packages?04:16
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AtticStormAll, I have an issue upon upgrade to Edgy.  When it boots I get a "Signal Out of Range" error on boot.  Think the new light X server is using the wrong resolution.  Looked around but can not find the file to change.  Can anyone help?04:16
mvore04:16
CheyenneDeffantly after Christmas.04:16
jrobinsonok04:16
Spaghetti_Knifepegs-using-e17: I have libdvdread3.04:16
jrobinsongood idea04:16
malikeyeday-after-xmas sales might be good04:16
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CheyenneI think prices would be lower04:16
NixNewbjrob, it depends on the tax laws where you live, and if you want to buy it online04:16
pegs-using-e17you will also need libdvdcss204:17
NixNewbwhere I live stores get taxed on new years, 12:01 on the inventory they have in stock04:17
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jrobinsoni live in texas, and I'm buying it from shopping.hp.com using an employee discount04:17
NixNewbso they're especially eager to get rid of items between Christmas and New Years04:17
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xabbottAtticStorm:  /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?04:17
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NixNewbI live a few miles from HP04:17
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NixNewbSmall world04:17
jrobinsonwhere?04:17
Spaghetti_Knifepegs-using-e17: I type in the command for installing libdvdread3, but the documentation's for ubuntu 6.06. I have 6.10, so the installation might already be done by Synaptic.04:17
NixNewbOff 24904:18
jrobinsonhouston?04:18
NixNewbYes04:18
jrobinsonk04:18
jrobinsoni'm in spring04:18
cafuego_AtticStorm: boot the recovery mode, then fix your X cfg.04:18
Jule1OK, building linux box for daughter, I need to get codecs, and it's the same pain it was when I set mine up...04:18
AtticStormxabbott: Will take a look and get back.  Thanks.04:18
NixNewbI work in Spring, when I'm not at school04:18
Jule1does anyone have a nice link that explains it???04:18
CheyenneWhat version of Ubuntu would be good for a MC04:18
NixNewbI live in Cypress04:18
jrobinsonnice04:18
jrobinsoncool04:18
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Spaghetti_Knifepegs-using-e17: And anyway, even without dvd playback, the computer should recognize the dvd.04:18
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jrobinsonsmall world04:18
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jrobinsonwhere do you work?04:18
wastrel!offtopic04:19
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!04:19
wastrel:] 04:19
pegs-using-e17what sort of dvd is it?04:19
srothrocI tried installing Opera and got "Dependency is not satisfiable: libqt3-mt" -- any suggestions?04:19
AtticStormcafuego_: Do I run "X cfg" at the recovery root command line to start this up?04:19
NixNewbI work for an engineer in an office he has behind his house04:19
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NixNewbA few blocks away from Klien04:19
CheyenneWhat version of Ubuntu would be good for a MC04:19
cafuego_AtticStorm: 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'04:19
NixNewb*Klein04:19
malikeyenot to mention it's bad to give out personal info like this in teh interweb04:19
jrobinsoncool04:19
malikeye:)04:19
jrobinsonlet's not anger the off-topic gods though04:20
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=== Jule1 needs a link to instructions to set up avi codecs.
aSt3raL_i installed a program using make.  is there an easy way to uninstall the software that i built?04:20
surface!w32codecs04:20
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:20
NixNewbYes, we might have to make a sacrificial offering to appease their wrath04:20
vox754!tell Jule1 about codecs04:20
Jule1make cleandistro or some such, look in the makefile04:20
cafuego_Jule1: google w32codecs+ubuntu04:20
mythos__for codec-installation i used automatix04:20
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Jule1thanks04:20
malikeyeNixNewb: I'm not an off-topic god, but I'll take a sacrificail offering of dead presidents :)04:20
cafuego_aSt3raL_: normally not; you might need to manually remove what got installed.04:21
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malikeyesacrificial, even04:21
srothrocAny suggestions for the libqt3-mt problem?04:21
pegs-using-e17another place to get all the codecs you need for avi, wmv and dvd go to http://seveas.imbrandon.com/04:21
CheyenneWhat laptop cards work with ubuntu?04:21
main2all04:21
Jule1aSt3raL_: if you want to uninstall a program that you built from a makefile, you have to hope that the makefile has an uninstall.  you will have to look in the makefile for that, and be a bit savvy.04:21
aSt3raL_so just do like a slocate beryl* and remove all the files manually?04:21
main2every single one on this **** planet :')04:21
NixNewbI doubt any of them are virgins, except truman, he might have been04:21
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jrobinsonhmm, does the president have to be killed by us, or can I just go digging around DC?04:22
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Jule1aSt3raL_: make cleandistro or something similar04:22
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cafuego_aSt3raL_: possibly; but you should have just used the beryl packages anyway.04:22
main2Cheyenne: depends on the manufacter04:22
aSt3raL_nah i built the svn04:22
CheyenneI mean wireless cards and ethernet cards tork?04:22
AtticStorm<cafuego_> Thank you, I will give it a try.  When I upgraded to Edgy, it messed up KDE and have been working to get things back, but have been working in GNOME again.  Thanks again.04:22
main2tork?04:22
cafuego_aSt3raL_: so does the maintainer, as packages.04:22
malikeyewow, there is gonna be feds in this channel soon :)04:22
vox754!wireless04:22
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:22
Jule1ubotu: thanks, I just noticed your pm.04:22
aSt3raL_over an old svn and it segfaults because of some old plugin conflict04:22
main2once again, check the manufactor its site etc...04:22
Jule1hehe04:23
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CheyenneCan you give me a page?04:23
main2some are cooperative, and do what they should do04:23
vox754!ubotu04:23
main2Cheyenne: yes i can04:23
main2www.google.com04:23
Cheyennefor wired04:23
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main2just google the "nameofthecard"+"linux"04:23
CheyenneI was looking for one to buy04:23
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main2Cheyenne: ok, that changes the situation04:24
main2wanne play it safe.. get a intel card (ipw2200 or something)04:24
wastrel<3 ipw220004:24
main2those are cheap, really well supported04:24
malikeyewastrel: agreed04:24
cafuego_or an atheros; most netgear models that end in 'T' are atheros.04:24
Cheyennei have a cheep X-Jack connector eathernet but i have broke most of the ones i have04:24
main2intel most of the wlan stack!!04:24
main2^^04:24
vox754!search intel04:24
ubotuFound: 0x40001d-#ubuntu-xgl,intel-#ubuntu-xgl,aiglx-#ubuntu-xgl04:24
cafuego_a bcm4306 0r 4318 will work, but needs some fiddling04:25
vox754!intel04:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:25
vox754!intel-04:25
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about intel- - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:25
main2cafuego dont recommend broadcom ffs04:25
AtticStormAll, Merry Christmas & God Bless.04:25
main2what ur doin.. :|04:25
cafuego_main2: Why not? They work fine.04:25
main2fck off04:25
main2they do not04:25
CheyenneIs there a page with currently supported cards04:25
cafuego_main2: Mind you manners please.04:25
srothrocAny help with getting the downloadable Opera 9.1 install file working with Dapper Drake?04:25
main2yes, there are a few sites with listings Cheyenne04:25
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Cheyennefor ubuntu04:26
cafuego_Cheyenne: the wiki lists a whole lot of cards and instructions for them04:26
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srothrocI try running it with the Package Installer and I get "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libqt3-mt".04:26
main2cafuego there's nothin wrong with my manners..04:26
main2suggesting somebody to buy a broadcom to be used under linux = insane.. rediculous04:26
cafuego_main2: Maybe I imagined it then04:26
PORDO can anyone here help me to get dmix working with my spdif?04:26
cafuego_main2: Like I said, the 4306 works fine.04:27
main2how do you know04:27
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bigfuzzyjesushello04:27
srothrocNobody has any idea?04:27
vox754!opera04:27
ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser04:27
main2they had to reverse all those chips..04:27
cafuego_main2: and they did a great job, the driver works.04:27
srothrochttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser is, unfortunately, out of date...04:27
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Ranbeesrothroc: there should be a deb on the opera site you can use04:28
cafuego_main2: with wep, without wep, with wpa, with wpa+radius.04:28
main2they did a great job, but the chance that it stops working some moment is real..04:28
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cafuego_main2: most 4318s work too, but NOT the others.04:28
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srothrocThat's what I tried, it's what gave me the error, Ranbee.04:28
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bradywhat is the flash player to use on ubuntu these days (which is not macromedia)?04:28
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Ranbeesrothroc: try this link for edgy - http://www.opera.com/download/get.pl?distro=ubuntu&id=28481%2C28479&location=109&sub=++++&x=126&y=1404:29
srothrocUse the Edgy install instead of Dapper?04:30
srothrocI'm running Dapper Drake...04:30
ZoffixHi, I remember I ran a "GUI Firewall Configuration Tool" and I can't find it right now :S... does anybody know a name of that program or in which menu it is?04:30
jeeves_Mossall:  ANYONE?  GPSD?04:30
ablyssuse dapper version srothroc04:30
Ranbeeif not try this - sudo aptitude install libqt3-mt04:30
Ranbeesrothroc: ^^04:30
cafuego_It's not as if the intel chips don't need closed firmware files.04:30
Ranbeesrothroc: no, use the dapper sorry04:31
Spaghetti_Knife!opera04:31
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ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser04:31
un_operateur!firestarter | Zoffix04:31
ubotuZoffix: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).04:31
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NixNewbwhats the difference between apt-get and aptitude?04:32
eigenlambdaaptitude is more one word04:32
eigenlambdawhereas apt-get is more standard04:32
eigenlambdaits a tradeoff04:32
eigenlambdayou know?04:32
NixNewbso its just in the name?04:33
vox754!search aptitude04:33
ubotuFound: aptitude04:33
RanbeeNixNewb: aptitude is better at uninstalling04:33
vox754!search apt-get04:33
ubotuFound: apt-file,cloning,headers,kde,build-dep,apt,irssi,gparted,source,openoffice04:33
un_operateurNix, aptitude's more sophisticated -- but in the same context of apt-get -- it remembers dependencies installed and removes them should they no longer be needed04:33
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berbearhow do i find out if my wireless is eth0 or eth104:33
eigenlambda(you usually have to use debfoster for that)04:33
NixNewbthanks un04:33
Zoffixberbear: iwconfig04:33
berbeark04:33
neurotechHas anyone had much luck running WoW through Wine? I have a question regarding it.04:33
RanbeeNixNewb: you can always use aptitude instead of apt-get04:34
vox754!WoW04:34
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org04:34
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Jule1kudos, problem solved...04:35
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Zoffixun_operateur: thanks, this is not what I've used before but it seems this one is better.04:35
neurotechvox754: I followed the guide on the Ubuntu help page. I can login to the game fine, but it crashes my PC when it actually enters the game world.04:35
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badwarri0rpeople i running linux ubuntu and i want to install nkrecnik-0.91 ( talkit )04:36
badwarri0rlook04:36
badwarri0rwho can help me ?04:36
badwarri0ra04:36
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badwarri0ri download it04:36
badwarri0rand ?04:36
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un_operateurZoffix, :) ok -- you could probably find your old one if you ran -- gnome-app-install04:36
pluto I get this error as a result of a make clean. How can I fix it? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38615/04:36
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badwarri0rwith terminal how i can install  ??04:37
badwarri0ra04:37
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vox754!actitude04:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about actitude - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:37
mythos__you must patch wine 0.9.21 ( i think ) ... follow the manual on winehq.com04:37
vox754!etiquette04:37
ubotuUnsure how you should behave on this channel? See !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam, !AskTheBot - and most importantly, use common sense :-)04:37
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vox754!Enter04:37
ubotuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!04:37
codemonkey2hi guys04:37
wimpiesCan anybody tell me how the hotplogging of external usb disk work ? Mine tries to mount on /media/external-1 but in the fstab it is /media/external04:37
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badwarri0rvox754: can you help me ??04:37
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codemonkey2KLaptop is not detecting when i plug in the power? what could it be????? it just happened before?04:38
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Starcraftmazterdamn it didn't help04:38
Starcraftmazterwhat do I use to burn DVDs?04:38
vox754!search nkrecnik04:38
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badwarri0rvox754: look how to install ranslator serbian english ??04:38
ubotuFound:04:38
badwarri0rvox754: i download it but with terminal i dont know how to install it can you help me ??04:38
un_operateurpluto, you might like to try whatever it is you are doing after removing and reinstalling -- linux-headers-2.6.17-1004:39
RanbeeStarcraftmazter: k3b is good for burning DVDs04:39
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pegs-using-e17Starcraftmazter: in kde u can  use k3b04:39
vox754!info nkrecnik04:39
ubotuPackage nkrecnik does not exist in any distro I know04:39
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codemonkey2KLaptop is not detecting when i plug in the power? what could it be????? it just happened before? any ideas appreciated04:39
badwarri0rvox754: i dont know how to apt-get that commands i dont know the commands :S04:39
Starcraftmazterin gnome?04:39
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badwarri0rSOMEBODY CAN HELP ME OR ???04:39
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vox754!install04:39
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues04:39
NixNewbI'm gonna play with kde and xfce now, thank you for your help04:39
un_operateur!patience | codemonkey204:39
ubotucodemonkey2: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines04:39
codemonkey2okok :) sorry04:39
RanbeeStarcraftmazter: i use it in gnome - k3b04:40
vox754!tell badwarri0r about caps04:40
__mikem!patience | badwarri0r04:40
Starcraftmazterok thanks04:40
ubotubadwarri0r: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines04:40
srothrocIs there a way to have the windows key be a combination key for keyboard shortcuts, like ctrl, alt, and shift are?04:40
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vox754!shortcuts04:40
ubotuKeyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net04:40
Ranbeebadwarri0r: what are you trying to install, there's a great link that shows how to install things in ubuntu...04:40
vox754!packages04:41
ubotuYou can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!04:41
MrSproutCould someone help me set up my monitor correctly, I'm having a refresh rate issue.04:41
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badwarri0rRanbee: man look i download nkrecnik-0.19 and i dont know how to install it with terminal can you help me ?04:41
codemonkey2KLaptop is not detecting when i plug in the power? what could it be????? it just happened before? any ideas appreciated04:41
Ranbeebadwarri0r: http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/04:41
vox754!tell MrSprout about X04:41
wimpiesbadwarrior : dpkg --install *.deb04:41
un_operateurcodemonkey2, if you plug in -- does the battery eventually run out of power (or does it keep charging but you cant see it doing so?) ??04:41
CheyenneWhen I am reinstalling Ubuntu, How do I Dualboot on one disk with XP and 6.0604:41
codemonkey2it charges04:41
tonyyarusso!dualboot | Cheyenne04:41
eigenlambdaoh shit.  ok.  who wants to walk mrsprout through dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:41
ubotuCheyenne: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)04:41
codemonkey2i cat proc/acpi/bat1/info04:41
codemonkey2and unplug syas discharging04:41
codemonkey2plug in its charing04:41
CheyenneThanks!04:42
codemonkey2so the charger etc works04:42
Ranbeebadwarri0r: what's the exact name of the file you downloaded?04:42
codemonkey2but klaptop not detecting the change04:42
MrSprouteigenlambda, I've got beryl and nvidia drivers set up, will reconfiguring it screw it up?04:42
badwarri0rnkrecnik-0.1904:42
wimpiesbadwarri0r : no extension ?04:42
vox754!source04:42
ubotuYou can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html04:42
wimpiesHOw did you get that file ? where did you download it from04:42
badwarri0rjust that name04:42
Mathewif i buy a new hard drive i just need the ubuntu CD, right?04:43
badwarri0rwww.softpedia.com04:43
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badwarri0rname: translator serbian english04:43
vox754right04:43
un_operateurcodemonkey2, klaptop eh -- dunno, how that works really -- you could ask in #kubuntu04:43
eigenlambdaMrSprout: lol i dunno04:43
Ranbeebadwarri0r: type this into terminal - file nkrecnik-0.19 then post the output04:43
eigenlambdanvidia drivers?  dunno how they deal with refresh rates.  all i know is, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to reconfigure your refresh rates04:43
badwarri0radwarrior@badwarrior-desktop:/tmp$ cd nkrecnik-0.9104:44
badwarri0rbadwarrior@badwarrior-desktop:/tmp/nkrecnik-0.91$04:44
badwarri0rnow ?04:44
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badwarri0rthen what to write in the terminal ?04:45
ZoffixIf I want to be able to telnet or ssh to my box what do I need to enable/install? I get """telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused""" When I try. I thought it was the firewall but it seems it is not04:45
un_operateurMrSprout, you might like to try this -- gnome-display-properties04:45
wimpiesfile command with files in that directory04:45
badwarri0rRanbee: what to write in the terminal now ??04:45
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wimpiesbadwarri0r : what files are in that nk* directory ?04:46
Zoffix!search telnet04:46
ubotuFound: telnet04:46
un_operateurZoffix, you need the openssh and openssh-server packages04:46
wimpiesuse the 'file' command04:46
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badwarri0rOMG04:46
Ranbeebadwarri0r: hold on i'll go and have a look at softpedia04:46
wescotteDoes Ubuntu run on a PS3 yet?04:46
badwarri0rTHE PROGRAM MAN04:46
Mathewif i buy a new hard drive i just need the CD to load ubuntu for the first time, right?04:46
badwarri0rprogram: talkit04:46
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vox754!search talkit04:46
ubotuFound:04:46
vox754!talkit04:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about talkit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:47
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Madpilot!info talkit04:47
ubotuPackage talkit does not exist in any distro I know04:47
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badwarri0rman i need a program with english language and serbian04:47
vox754!tell Zoffix about ssh04:47
ZoffixI think I got it04:47
wimpiesbadwarri0r : i think you have downloaded something odd ... normally you should either  download a *.deb file or (an *.rpm but then you need 'alien' to install it) else you need a tgz  file which generally contains sources which you compile or some README explaining how to install04:48
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vox754!sr04:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:48
badwarri0rO MY FUCKIN GOD !04:48
ZoffixSeems that some packages were removed after the last upgrade since I remember being able to telnet/ssh to localhost 100%04:48
Ranbeebadwarri0r: what's the name of the program? i can't find it04:48
badwarri0rwait04:48
badwarri0ri will give you wget04:48
un_operateur!language | badwarri0r04:48
ubotubadwarri0r: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.04:48
vox754!Enter04:48
ubotuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!04:48
vox754!sb04:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:48
Madpilot!msgthebot04:49
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...04:49
enlightgreeting, has anyone ever installed sun-java5-bin package using Adept Manager, it's showing me an ugly DOS window (within Adept Manager) with the license agreement... but I can't figure out how to click on the OK button to get past the license agreement.04:49
badwarri0rRanbee: http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Education/NK-Recnik-15556.shtml04:49
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un_operateurvox754, /query ubotu  and chat to him in private04:50
badwarri0rRanbee: if you want download the program install it and please tell me how to install pls04:50
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craigbass1976Has anyone ever got ledgersmb running in ubuntu?04:50
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wimpiesbadwarri0r : ./configure --prefix=/usr04:51
wimpiesand then make04:51
badwarri0rwijnand: can all commands ?04:51
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badwarri0rwimpies: can a ?04:51
wimpiesbadwarri0r : huh ?04:51
badwarri0rwimpies: wait :D04:51
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badwarri0rconfigure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH04:52
badwarri0rSee `config.log' for more details.04:52
badwarri0rbadwarrior@badwarrior-desktop:/tmp/nkrecnik-0.91$04:52
un_operateur!paste | badwarri0r04:52
ubotubadwarri0r: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:52
wimpiesinstall gcc04:52
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badwarri0rsorry04:52
badwarri0r:(04:52
wimpiesapt-get install gcc04:52
un_operateurbadwarri0r, sudo aptitude install build-essential04:52
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wimpiesun_operateur : i install gcc directly.04:53
vox754!gcc04:53
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)04:53
Ranbeebadwarri0r: sudo aptitude install build essential04:53
badwarri0rok i must wait ?04:53
cyphaseJet Pack: http://tinyurl.com/yl2ake04:53
badwarri0rok04:53
Ranbeebadwarri0r: sudo aptitude install build-essential04:53
FaintofheartsI need to enable direct rendering, but I am having a lot of trouble. Anyone think they can help?04:53
badwarri0ri type and i wait :)04:53
purewind04:54
un_operateurwimpies, its better to install build-essential -- it's a virtual package that install make, gcc, g++, dpkg-dev, etc04:54
badwarri0rRanbee: i type that04:54
vox754!zh04:54
ubotuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk04:54
badwarri0rGet:3 http://mk.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main libc6-dev 2.3.6-0ubuntu20 [2822kB] 04:54
badwarri0ri wait now04:54
badwarri0ris 22%04:55
wimpiesun_operateur : yes you are right (I have more gcc compilers installed, hence my confusion)04:55
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FaintofheartsI need to enable direct rendering, but I am having a lot of trouble. Anyone think they can help?04:55
badwarri0rRanbee: i must wait 100% ??04:55
un_operateurbadwarri0r, can you live in a house that is not built?04:55
badwarri0ra04:55
wimpiesbadwarri0r : just wait until you get your ...$ prompt back04:55
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FaintofheartsNo one can help me enable direct rendering?04:56
badwarri0rokay04:56
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vox754no |Faint04:56
wastrel!cn | purewind04:56
ubotupurewind: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk04:56
badwarri0rpeople you are the best !04:56
badwarri0rthis server is best ever !04:56
wimpiesfaintofhearts : load module 'dri' but that is about all I know of it04:56
stormchas3rHow can I add other drives to my ubuntu server to act as extended drives?04:57
wastrelwo bu hui shuo zhongwen04:57
wimpiesstormchas3r : just plug-em in in a Usb ?04:57
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FaintofheartsBah, I need to get direct rendering working. It would be MUCH easier on me.04:57
kohr_is that chinese?04:57
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stormchas3rwimpies, not exactly like that04:57
stormchas3rhehe04:57
vox754yes | kohr04:58
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kohr_wow, first guess04:58
wimpiesstormchas3r : you question was to vague to get a correct answer04:58
stormchas3rwimpies, I want to have 4 drives act as on04:58
stormchas3rsrry04:58
pradeepvglughydhi ppl,when i place the mouse cursor on a mp3 file the song starts playing by itself how to stop this04:58
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stormchas3rone*04:58
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kohr_what ?04:58
kohr_the song starts?04:58
kohr_thats awesome04:58
trev_ffis there a way to set a sleep timer for ubuntu to turn off?04:58
kohr_oh04:59
Twinxory'all have any problems with staticy sound in ZSNES?04:59
kohr_yeah04:59
vox754!cron04:59
ubotucron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm04:59
kohr_there is one in xscreensaver also04:59
badwarri0rRanbee: Setting up build-essential (11.1) ...04:59
badwarri0r04:59
wimpiesin view somewhere you can disable which files tiles will be previewed04:59
badwarri0rRanbee: its done that so now what to type ?04:59
pradeepvglughydkohr_:i mean song plays04:59
wimpiesbadwarri0r : no keep waiting till you get $04:59
wastrelpradeepvglughyd:  in nautilus  edit > preferences > preview  set sound files to "never"04:59
kohr_on the desktop only?04:59
badwarri0rplease people help me05:00
pradeepvglughydwastrel: thanx it worked05:00
Ranbeebadwarri0r: you need to go into the NK Recnik with terminal and type ./configure05:00
badwarri0rRanbee: can you please ?05:00
wimpiesbadwarri0r: wait until you see  badwarrior@badwarrior-desktop:/tmp/nkrecnik-0.91$05:00
FaintofheartsI am in great need of direct rendering.05:00
badwarri0rok05:00
badwarri0rthen ?05:00
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wimpies./configure --prefix=/usr05:00
badwarri0rchecking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!05:01
vox754!direct rendering05:01
wimpieswait again till all is done05:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about direct rendering - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:01
Ranbeebadwarri0r: make05:01
wimpiesthe make ans wait again05:01
wimpiesand then run make install as root05:01
un_operateurvox754, if you want to play with the bot -- please do that in private -- /query ubotu05:01
badwarri0rbadwarrior@badwarrior-desktop:/tmp/nkrecnik-0.91$ make05:01
badwarri0rmake: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.05:01
wimpiesbadwarri0r; run ./configure --prefix=/usr !!!05:01
badwarri0rok05:02
vox754!tell Faintofhearts about direct-rendering05:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about direct-rendering - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:02
FaintofheartsHeh05:02
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FaintofheartsI'll research it a little further, don't worry.05:02
badwarri0ri type it but i have error05:02
badwarri0rlook05:02
badwarri0rchecking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!05:02
trev_is the command for a system shutdown init 0?05:02
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wimpiesinstall libx11-dev05:02
badwarri0rnow what to type ?05:02
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wimpieslike you did with build-essential05:03
FaintofheartsBah05:03
Ranbeetrev_: sudo shutdown -h now05:03
FaintofheartsHow about OpenGL then.,05:03
FaintofheartsAnyone know anything about OpenGL?05:03
trev_ok05:03
badwarri0rman can we start now ?05:03
wimpiesFaintofhearts : I told you how to load DRI have you tried ?05:03
Faintofhearts!OpenGL05:03
badwarri0ri quit the root05:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about OpenGL - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:03
badwarri0rcan we start again ?05:03
badwarri0ra05:03
vox754sudo halt | trev_05:03
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wimpiesbadwarri0r : you are a bad student ... you just dont listen to what ppl say ... you just miss some stuff ... install libx11-dev and configure again05:04
Faintofheartswimpies: What exact command do I use?05:04
un_operateurwimpies -- x-dev too05:04
badwarri0rinstall: missing destination file operand after `libx11-dev'05:04
badwarri0rinstall: missing destination file operand after `libx11-dev'05:04
badwarri0ra error05:04
badwarri0r:S05:04
wimpiesedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and somewhere in the load modules section05:05
MorphingMorphixHello.. I'm going to install Ubuntu on a system with an ATI AIW 128 Pro ( an older card) I seems to be supported by XFree but ubunto uses XOrg05:05
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craigbass1976Apt-get remove doesn't get rid of postgres 7.4.  Is there something I'm missing?05:05
wimpiesapt-get install badwarri0r read what I told you before !05:05
badwarri0rbadwarrior@badwarrior-desktop:/tmp/nkrecnik-0.91$ apt-get install libx11-dev05:05
badwarri0rE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)05:05
badwarri0rE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?05:05
badwarri0rA ERROR05:05
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badwarri0r:(] 05:05
un_operateurbadwarri0r, please stop posting in the room x:X05:06
wimpiesbadwarri0r : you must be root to install software with apt-get05:06
badwarri0rok05:06
badwarri0rman i am in the root05:06
MorphingMorphixhas anyone here tried to watch TV with Ubunto and an ATI AIW 128 Pro05:06
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badwarri0rwimpies: please man tell me again how to install the talkit05:06
badwarri0rpls05:06
wimpiesnot IN the root LOG ON as root !05:06
badwarri0ri exit now terminal05:06
badwarri0rand now how to install tell me05:06
badwarri0ri open again05:06
FaintofheartsI already have load module DRI05:06
wimpiesFaintofhearts : in /var/log05:07
badwarri0rbadwarrior@badwarrior-desktop:/tmp/nkrecnik-0.91$05:07
badwarri0rok i now open it05:07
un_operateurbadwarri0r, why did you close the terminal? are you crazy?05:07
wimpiesFaintofhearts : there is an Xorg log file ... check for problems05:07
badwarri0rso now pls lets we start05:07
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badwarri0rman because i lost there05:07
Madpilotwimpies, Ubuntu uses sudo, not root, by default - so 'sudo apt-get install..."05:07
TheAspFaintofhearts: what card do you have?05:07
wimpiesbadwarri0r : you are NOT root.  run sudo apt-get install libx11-dev05:07
badwarri0rpls lets start again05:07
badwarri0rok i type that05:08
vox754un_operateur: you did your best, kick him, we'll try next time.05:08
FaintofheartsTheAsp: I have an intel 810, or something similar.05:08
badwarri0rpls no kick me05:08
badwarri0rpls05:08
badwarri0ri need the help05:08
badwarri0rok i type sudo apt-get install libx11-dev and after that ??05:08
Madpilotubotu, enter | badwarri0r05:08
ubotubadwarri0r: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!05:08
TheAspFaintofhearts: are you using the i810 driver?05:08
FaintofheartsYes.05:08
wimpiesbadwarri0r : run ./configure --prefix=/usr again till it completes successfully05:08
un_operateurvox754, i'm actually quite amused by his clownish antics :)05:08
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TheAspFaintofhearts: some i810 stuff needs other stuff to be modified...  google for your exact hardware05:09
badwarri0rwimpies: i type ./configure --prefix=/usr and after that just i have one error i dont have completed05:09
wimpiesbadwarri0r : and don't beg ... just as questions ... and I want to go to bed !05:09
FaintofheartsSure thing.05:09
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wimpiesbadwarri0r : what error ?05:09
badwarri0rwimpies: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!05:10
TheAspFaintofhearts: you might need to run in 16bpp too05:10
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un_operateurlloll :))05:10
wimpiesbadwarri0r : have you run sudo apt-get install libx11-dev ???05:10
FaintofheartsHow would I go about doing that TheAsp?05:10
badwarri0rwimpies: yes i have run that05:10
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wimpiesbadwarri0r : run it again to make sure05:11
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un_operateurwimpies, badwarri0r -- sudo aptitude install libx11-dev x-dev05:11
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TheAspFaintofhearts: edit xorg.conf?05:11
wimpiesun_operateur : x-dev ? I do not have an x-dev package installed05:11
badwarri0rok i run now sudo aptitude install libx11-dev x-dev and then what to type ??05:11
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wimpiesun_operateur : x-dev ? oops i DO have one ... sorry05:11
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bradyis there any difference between using a server install disk then apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and using the desktop install cd?05:11
wimpiesbadwarri0r : run configure ... again !!05:11
FaintofheartsTheAsp: I'm sort of new to this. What exactly am I editing in?05:12
wimpiesun_operateur : x-dev  seems to be a dummy package05:12
badwarri0romg05:12
badwarri0ri have the error again05:12
TheAspFaintofhearts: start with google...05:12
FaintofheartsOk05:12
TheAspFaintofhearts: is it a laptop?05:13
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wimpiesbadwarri0r : I suppose you have typed your password (of the user you are currently logged in with) as the prompt sudo generates05:13
FaintofheartsTheAsp: No it's a desktop.05:13
badwarri0rwimpies: can we start again and quick pls ?05:13
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maquisis there a way to dist-upgrade a ubuntu-server installation without the rest of the base ubuntu packages being installed?05:13
un_operateurwimpies, indeed it is -- and it's meant to pull in the x-protocol headers05:13
craigbass1976Why, if I remove a package (postgresql) there's still a file in /etc/init.d ?05:13
badwarri0rwimpies: please really i need that program please.05:13
wimpiesun_operateur : x-dev is for trainsitional purposes05:13
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TheAspcraigbass1976: you didn't --purge it05:14
un_operateurcraigbass1976, because you didnt purge-remove postgres05:14
wimpiesbadwarri0r : there is a file called config.log and scan it for errors (see which file from x11 is missing)05:14
badwarri0rwimpies: please can we start again new one ?05:14
wimpiesbadwarri0r :no need ... you just need some system files ... you do not need to start again05:14
craigbass1976TheAsp, is that part of the apt command, or that's the whole command?05:14
badwarri0rhow to see with pico config.log05:14
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wimpiesbadwarri0r : keep going !05:14
TheAspcraigbass1976: in debian/ubuntu you don't lose config files when you remove something unless you purge it05:14
wimpiesbadwarri0r : any editor will do05:14
badwarri0rso what to see there ?05:14
un_operateurcraigbass1976, sudo aptitude purge postgresql05:15
craigbass1976TheAsp, I'm used to yum.  I just type purge-remove blahblah?05:15
craigbass1976ok05:15
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wimpiesbadwarri0r : somewhere in that file it is trying to find X11 header files and the compiler probably produces some error ... just read through the file and look for any error05:15
TheAspcraigbass1976: or apt-get --purge remove05:15
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badwarri0rwimpies: do you know that program for what i use it ?05:16
bombhumperdoes anyone know how to get k3b to burn mp3's05:16
wimpiesbadwarri0r : no05:16
craigbass1976TheAsp, ahh, there they go.05:16
badwarri0rwimpies: man for to learn english language, man i dont know english language.05:16
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TheAspcraigbass1976: they are safe to keep around :)05:16
badwarri0rwimpies: i know just macedonian and serbian language05:16
craigbass1976TheAsp, I've screwed up installing ledgersmb somewhere, so I wanted to start fresh05:16
slickywtf.. is it legal to download linux dists and then sell them for like 10 euros/cd (dvdr/cdr) burned copies... ?05:16
variantslicky: yes05:16
TheAspcraigbass1976: then yeah, you want to do that05:17
bombhumperhello homos05:17
variantslicky: it is encouraged05:17
craigbass1976slicky, you can do whatever you want, so long as the source is available to the customers05:17
vleoncheck05:17
badwarri0rwimpies: and please i will open terminal and you will tell me again on start please i really need the program i must go in IRAQ to work and have some money please, i have 34 years05:17
wimpiesbadwarri0r : I have just compiled it on my system05:17
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badwarri0rwimpies: please05:17
HyperHackerso05:17
slickyokey, hm, strange, then i can start selling ubuntu dist via ebay ;D05:17
un_operateurslicky, sure, someone's got to pay for the manual labour put into packaging and distributing the media -- and something has to pay for the media and packaging itself05:17
wimpiesbadwarri0r : do not beg so much ... it won't help you05:17
badwarri0rwimpies: I open now a terminal and now ?05:17
HyperHackerI downloaded this "Ubuntu 6.10 alternate install CD"05:17
variantslicky: good luck finding buyers05:17
HyperHackerit's 903MB so it doesn't fit on a CD-R05:18
badwarri0rwimpies: man but please i must learn pls05:18
wimpiesbadwarri0r : do you have a mail address ? I will send you the compiled version05:18
slickyvariant: lol =)05:18
HyperHackerbut it's a CD-R image so it can't be burned to a DVD.05:18
HyperHackerwtf?05:18
un_operateurslicky, what makes you think they'll buy off of you when they can download for free??05:18
badwarri0rbosanacmal@yahoo.com05:18
un_operateur:)05:18
badwarri0rhere it05:18
variantHyperHacker: huh?05:18
wimpiesbadwarri0r : hold on05:18
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badwarri0rok05:18
craigbass1976variant, I am surprised every day with what people will pay money for.  Windows, for instance...  : )05:18
variantHyperHacker: it's an iso, you can burn it to anything05:18
slickyun_operateur: ill only sell to ppl who got 56k ;D05:18
rusherhello05:18
badwarri0rtell me when you sent it05:18
HyperHackervariant, when I try to burn the image in Nero it tells me it's not useable on DVDs05:18
variantslicky: you can order the ubuntu cd's for free from ubuntu site05:19
rusherthe bad thing about ubuntu is that you need a internet connection05:19
un_operateurslicky, chances are they'll buy if off of amazon.com than you :p05:19
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variantHyperHacker: thats because nero sucks balls tbh05:19
wimpiesbadwarri0r : just now ... check your inbox ... should subject is 'compile'05:19
badwarri0rok05:19
un_operateur!language | variant05:19
craigbass1976slicky, then you may also want to warn them that their modem will most likely not work in Ubuntu, unless things have changed drastically.05:19
ubotuvariant: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.05:19
slickycan i buy a ubuntu cd with manuals and stuff on the ubuntu site? :o05:19
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HyperHackervariant, what else burns DVD images on XP?05:19
variantHyperHacker: no idea, i don't use it05:19
slickycraigbass1976:  why not? :o05:19
HyperHackerWindows thinks they're zero-byte CDRs05:19
rusherget infraexpress, great free program05:20
craigbass1976slicky, are you serious?05:20
rusherinfraexpress <-- the best windows burning program, freeware05:20
Ashton_KBurn... windows? Sure!05:20
Ashton_KSorry, had to.05:20
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RanbeeHyperHacker: do you need to burn an iso on XP?05:20
HyperHackeryeah05:20
slickycraigbass1976: lol no.. just found this add at tradera.se about someone who was selling linux dists..  was just curius05:21
craigbass1976slicky, like I said, unless things have changed a lot since I got broadband, most software modems don't work in Linux because they're designed to be run with Windows.  Conextant offers drivers, for a fee, and there are some other that are reported to work, but it's spotty at best05:21
HyperHackerI've tried various programs but they don't recognize DVDs05:21
badwarri0rwimpies: so there you send me just icons ?05:21
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RanbeeHyperHacker: http://www.snapfiles.com/get/burncdcc.html05:21
badwarri0rwimpies: man can you sent me all commands how to install it pls ???] 05:21
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caminomasterhi05:21
craigbass1976hi05:21
slickyhi05:22
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wimpiesbadwarri0r : in that file is also a file nkrecnik in the bin directory05:22
caminomasterThere's a way to make xfce uses the gnome configuration (launchers, etc)?05:22
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badwarri0rbut i can't open it05:22
wimpiesbadwarri0r : run sudo tar -C / -xzvf <FILEYOUDOWNLOADED>05:22
cafuego_caminomaster: just run the gnome-panel, right?05:22
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badwarri0rbadwarrior@badwarrior-desktop:~$ sudo tar -C / -xzvf nkrecnik-0.9105:23
badwarri0rtar: nkrecnik-0.91: Cannot open: No such file or directory05:23
badwarri0rtar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now05:23
badwarri0rtar: Child returned status 205:23
badwarri0rtar: Error exit delayed from previous errors05:23
badwarri0rbadwarrior@badwarrior-desktop:~$05:23
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wimpiesbadwarri0r : that is NOT possible.  the file I sent you is called nk.tgz so not nkrecnik05:23
cafuego_badwarri0r: Why would you unpack it to / ?05:24
caminomastercafuego, which file I need to modify to set it in?05:24
badwarri0rwait05:24
wimpiesbadwarri0r : because I compiled it to be installed like that05:24
cafuego_caminomaster: No idea, maybe run it from ~/.xinitrc05:24
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slickyhm.. what ubuntu mint?05:24
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wimpiescafuego_ : because I compiled it like that05:24
slicky"Ubuntu Linux 2.0 Mint"05:24
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cafuego_wimpies: you'r making him unpack unchecked files to / ?  Does he know you?05:24
cafuego_slicky: Not ubuntu05:25
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wimpiescafuego_ : that tar file  contains subdirectories of course !05:25
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cafuego_wimpies: like /bin/bash? ;-)05:25
slickycafuego_: okey05:25
wimpiescafuego_ : funny05:25
cafuego_wimpies: Not really05:25
lalalandwhen i down my wireless then do ifconfig eth0 hw ether 00:80:48:BA:d1:20 i get a invalid argument error... wats happening? im trying to change my mac address05:25
badwarri0rdone wimpies then ?05:25
badwarri0r./share/applnk/Utilities/nkrecnik.desktop05:26
badwarri0rbadwarrior@badwarrior-desktop:/tmp$05:26
badwarri0rok its open that05:26
badwarri0rso now ?05:26
slickyim going to sell beryl on a ebay add..05:26
Ranbeelalaland: http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=security/changemac05:27
lalalandk05:27
wimpiesbadwarri0r : I made an error you should move /share/applnk to /usr/share/applnk and /bin/nkrecnik to /usr/bin/nkrecnik05:27
slickywhats the big difference between debian 3.1 and ubuntu?  is it just the eyecandy?05:27
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badwarri0rhow ?05:27
badwarri0rtell me a commands pls05:27
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wimpiesbadwarri0r : sudo mv /share/applnk/Utilities/nkrecnik.desktop /usr/share/applnk/Utilities05:28
badwarri0rdone05:28
wimpiesbadwarri0r : and sudo mv /bin/mkrecnik /usr/bin/nkrecnik05:28
badwarri0rmv: cannot stat `/bin/mkrecnik': No such file or directory05:28
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wimpiesbadwarri0r : and sudo mv /bin/nkrecnik /usr/bin/nkrecnik05:28
badwarri0ryou means nk05:28
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badwarri0rok05:28
Ranbeebadwarri0r: i think it would be alot easier for you to get help at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=7305:28
badwarri0rdone05:28
badwarri0rand now wimpies ?05:29
wimpiesbadwarri0r : and cp -ar /share /usr/share05:29
badwarri0rbadwarrior@badwarrior-desktop:/tmp$ cp -ar /share /usr/share05:29
badwarri0rcp: cannot create directory `/usr/share/share': Permission denied05:29
wimpiesbadwarri0r : and sudo cp -ar /share/* /usr/share05:29
badwarri0rcp: cannot overwrite non-directory `/usr/share/applnk/Utilities' with directory `/share/applnk/Utilities'05:29
wimpiesbadwarri0r : moment ...05:30
badwarri0rwimpies: ok05:30
neurotechIs there a way to colour folders like you can do on a Mac?05:30
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wimpiesbadwarri0r : do 'cd /usr/share/applnk05:31
badwarri0rdone05:31
wimpiesand check if Utilities is a directory or a file05:31
badwarri0rand ?05:31
badwarri0rbadwarrior@badwarrior-desktop:/usr/share/applnk$05:31
wimpiesbadwarri0r : ls -l Utilities gives what ?05:31
badwarri0rbadwarrior@badwarrior-desktop:/usr/share/applnk$ ls -l Utilities05:31
badwarri0r-rw-r--r-- 1 badwarrior badwarrior 223 2006-07-24 01:50 Utilities05:31
badwarri0rthat is it ?05:32
neurotechIs there a way to colour folders like you can do on a Mac?05:32
wimpiesbadwarri0r : rm Utilities05:32
badwarri0rdone05:32
badwarri0rand ?05:32
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wimpiesbadwarri0r : and now rerun the sudo cp -ar /share/* /usr/share command05:32
badwarri0rdone05:33
badwarri0rand ?05:33
badwarri0ri type sudo cp -ar /share/* /usr/share05:33
badwarri0rand ?05:33
wimpiesrun nkrecnik05:33
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badwarri0r?05:33
badwarri0rhow you means run ?05:34
wimpiesbadwarri0r : the program should now have been installed  so type nkrecnik and press enter like any command05:34
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ToHellWithGAdo yall know how to setup grub to make my TTY font big big big?05:34
badwarri0rbadwarrior@badwarrior-desktop:/usr/share/applnk$ nkrecnik05:34
badwarri0rnkrecnik: error while loading shared libraries: libkio.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory05:34
badwarri0rnkrecnik is in desktop05:35
badwarri0ri must type cd ..05:35
badwarri0r ??05:35
wimpiesnkrecnik : requires kde so you need to install kubuntu05:35
badwarri0rto be in desktop ?05:35
badwarri0ra05:35
mjgoinsanyone have gpg-agent running on dapper? I can't get it to work properly, even though I've googled as much as I can think of to google05:35
badwarri0rnaah man i was had a nkrecnik05:35
badwarri0rbut i type rm -rf *05:35
badwarri0rand all delte :S05:35
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wimpiesbadwarri0r : say again ?05:36
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badwarri0rbut i type rm -rf *05:36
badwarri0rnaah man i was had a nkrecnik05:36
wimpiesbadwarri0r : rm -rf * from where ?05:36
badwarri0rin the root terminal05:36
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kitchebadwarri0r: did you do it in /?05:36
badwarri0ri type rm -rf * in the terminal05:36
wimpiesbadwarri0r : that is NOT good...05:36
badwarri0ryep05:36
badwarri0rwhy ?05:37
badwarri0rwhat is that ?05:37
badwarri0rrm -rf * to delete all files ?05:37
badwarri0ra05:37
kitchebadwarri0r try this ls and see if it says command not found05:37
wimpiesbadwarri0r : remove forcefully all files in the current directory and recurse into all subdirectories to do the same05:37
TheAspheh05:37
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badwarri0rbadwarrior@badwarrior-desktop:/usr/share/applnk$ ls05:37
badwarri0rSystem  Utilities05:37
badwarri0rbadwarrior@badwarrior-desktop:/usr/share/applnk$05:37
xabbottlol, who told you to type that?05:37
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badwarri0rnobody :)05:37
kitchebadwarri0r ok thought you did it in / :)05:38
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badwarri0r:)))))05:38
PWillrm -rf * is a bad idea05:38
wimpieskitche : in applnk is just as bad ...05:38
badwarri0raha05:38
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badwarri0rwimpies: so man how you means now to i run nkrecnik ?05:38
Joker_Can I interject a quick question that likely has a very easy fix?05:38
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wimpiesbadwarri0r : run again sudo cp -ar /share/* /usr/share it should install some files again05:38
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wimpiesbadwarri0r : you have installed ubuntu ? well that uses GNOME ... ncrecnik requires KDE which means kubuntu05:39
badwarri0rdone05:39
badwarri0rand ?05:39
badwarri0rman lOOK i was have this program on gnome05:39
wiseelbenanyone here uses MainActor05:39
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dxdtWhere do I add something so that it is always passed as an argument to the kernel even after the kernel has been automagically upgraded and stuff?  I am trying to pass vga=791 but it doesn't seemed to get passed.  I just want a better freaking looking console when I hit ctrl+alt+f105:40
badwarri0rso man now what to type ? install recnik ?05:40
wimpiesbadwarri0r : wait05:40
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badwarri0rokay.05:40
wiseelbenIs there any way for me to import DivX avi's on MainActor 5.5?05:40
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tonyyarussodxdt: The kopt line.05:41
CheyenneAnother question from me, What do you people recomend for a boot loader?05:41
xabbottdxdt: i have it on my kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst05:41
wimpiesbadwarri0r : No, you NEED KDE to run nkrecnic  so you need to install kubuntu05:41
badwarri0r:S05:41
badwarri0rdamn05:41
dxdtbut what if you want it for all new kernels that may be pushed, does that still work?05:41
Ranbeebadwarri0r: ask here ===>  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=7305:41
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xabbottoh , yea05:41
wimpiesbadwarri0r : once you have done that , the program I sent you runs (the error message you got shows it runs and I tried it here on my kubuntu PC and it runs(05:42
xabbottdo this05:42
tonyyarussodxdt: Yep.05:42
badwarri0rwimpies: man can you find a nkrecnic with serbian and english language for gnome ?05:42
badwarri0ra05:42
badwarri0ror macedonian and english a ?05:42
badwarri0rcan ya ?05:42
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dxdttonyyarusso, you just do vga=791 and that's all05:42
=== Joker_ prods wiseelben... You seem to be the smart one here... I'm trying to mount a FAT drive in Edgy, going by the tutorial-ish-thingy at "http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy", but everytime I do, I get this:jordan@jordan-beige:~$ sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000
Joker_mount: /dev/hda1 already mounted or /media/windows/ busy05:42
Joker_mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda1 is mounted on /05:42
Joker_jordan@jordan-beige:~$05:42
Joker_Any ideas?05:42
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wimpiesbadwarri0r : How should I know... i am from belgium and have never had any need for serbian or macedonian ... sorry05:42
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tonyyarussodxdt: Yep, or in addition to any options that are already there.05:42
CheyenneAnother question from me, What do you people recomend for a boot loader?05:43
badwarri0raha05:43
badwarri0rok05:43
badwarri0rdamn05:43
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badwarri0rok people :(05:43
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wimpiesbadwarri0r : just install kubuntu (it is just some packages you need but I do not which ... check the website of ubuntu/kubuntu05:43
dxdtk gonna try it05:43
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wiseelbenjoker_: not the smartest one here, but are you sure that your FAT hasn't been automatically mounted? Edgy automounts FATs (and even NTFS)05:43
badwarri0rman but i dont have kubuntu05:43
wimpiesbadwarri0r : download it from the net or run sudo apt-get install <SOMESPECIALPACKAGE>05:44
|{u can install kde thru synaptic if u have ubuntu or xubuntu05:44
|{yeh tht too05:44
wimpiesbut I do not know which package ... perhaps kubuntu or kde... check the website05:44
Joker_wiseelben: Don't think it's already mounted... Doesn't show up in Places>Computer05:44
xabbottbadwarri0r:  aptitude install kubuntu-desktop i believe05:44
|{yeah it is.. just checked05:44
Joker_wiseelben: Did they just change something on me from Dapper to Edgy? I just got around to switching yesterday05:45
badwarri0ri type aptitude install kubuntu-desktop05:45
badwarri0ri means i type sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop05:45
badwarri0radn is 2%05:45
badwarri0r:S05:45
wiseelbenjoker_: you can try unmounting it first by using the "umount" command. something like "umount /dev/hda1"05:45
wimpiesbadwarri0r : it will take a which (KDE is not small) but after that you should be able to run the program05:45
kitcheJoker_: type mount and pastebin what is mounted05:45
wiseelbenyou might need sudo05:45
wimpieshave to go now and get some sleep ( it is 06:00 AM here ... )05:45
badwarri0rhere is 6:00 am here too :)05:46
FaintofheartsI still can't figure out this direct rendering problem.05:46
badwarri0rwimpies: thanks for informations05:46
badwarri0r:)05:46
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|{anyone know how to enable direct rendering for the nvidia driver.. i have everything installed correctly and glxgears runs @ a consistent 2500 - 3000fps.05:46
|{?05:46
FaintofheartsAnyone here who may be able to help me with it?05:46
Joker_kitche: Where do you want me to paste it to you?05:46
wimpiesbadwarri0r : good luck ... install kde and you should be just fine05:46
kitche!paste|Joker_05:46
ubotuJoker_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)05:46
nolimitsoya|{, try 'sudo nvidia-glx-config enable'05:46
badwarri0r!paste Joker_05:46
|{\m/05:46
badwarri0r:)05:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about paste Joker_ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:46
|{thx05:46
kitcheJoker_: just rememebr to paste the link05:46
|{hopefully doom3 will work again now05:46
|{=)05:46
nolimitsoya|{, and try out a more friendly nick, please. ;) its a pain to type05:47
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badwarri0rhey people05:47
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badwarri0rfor downloading KDE i just need command: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop ???05:47
wiseelbenok I'm trying to install LiVES (vidoe editor), but apparently all the edgy libs are not current enough? For example, I get "libfontconfig1 (>= 2.4.0) but 2.3.2-7ubuntu2 is installed."05:47
umop-apisdnlol srry05:47
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badwarri0rfor downloading KDE i just need command: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop ???05:48
badwarri0r????????????05:48
wiseelbenbadwarri0r, yes that would download the kubuntu desktop05:48
dxdttonyyarusso, yeah that didn't work at all.  Console font is still huge and stuff05:48
wiseelbenall theo ther stuff too, not JUST KDE05:48
nolimitsoyabadwarri0r, no, thatll give you the full kubuntu desktop. for a vanilla kde install, just get 'kde' or 'kde-core' for a lightweight install05:48
Joker_kitche: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38617/05:48
FaintofheartsI need help enabling direct rendering. My graphics card is an Intel Corporation 82815 CGC and I have the i810 driver already installed.05:48
badwarri0roki05:48
badwarri0rthanks ppl05:48
badwarri0rbyee05:48
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umop-apisdnFaintofhearts, same here05:48
umop-apisdndoom3?05:48
tonyyarussodxdt: Sure you have the right vga setting?  Was it in hex or dec?  Mine is vga=0x318, btw.05:49
FaintofheartsQuake 3 actually :P05:49
umop-apisdnoic05:49
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nolimitsoyaFaintofhearts, should work out of the box. did you configure your xserver?05:49
umop-apisdnyeh mines still givin me trouble05:49
Ranbeecan't badwarri0r just get the qt libs and headers?05:49
kitcheJoker_: /dev/hda1 is your root filesystem why would you umount it?05:49
dxdtvga=791 is all I put05:49
dxdtdo I need something else?05:49
Ranbeebadwarri0r http://www.metak.com/ is that serbian?05:49
Faintofheartsnolimitsoya: I didn't do anything. But I get "direct rendering: no"05:49
Joker_kitche: Did I?05:49
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nolimitsoyaFaintofhearts, try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and use the appropriate driver05:50
Joker_kitche: No, that's just what wiseelben told me to do05:50
Joker_I didn't though05:50
kitcheJoker_: no but you trying to mount a FAT system well /dev/hda1 is not a FAT filesystem05:50
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umop-apisdnsudo nvidia-glx-config enable returns an error msg.. and i already changed nv to nvidia =\ sorry to bug u guys.. lol u should be getting paid for this ^_-05:51
nolimitsoyaumop-apisdn, then do the 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' routine :) send me a check, please ;)05:51
Joker_kitche: Ah... Makes sense... Someone might want to go edit http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_mount.2Funmount_Windows_partitions_.28FAT.29_manually.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read.2Fwrite then05:51
Zoffix_Hi, when I run 'make ndiswrapper' I get: "Can't find kernel build files in /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/build;" What package do I need to install?05:51
umop-apisdni dont understand beryl rocks hella fast.. oh well ill reconfig it all05:51
Peloumop-apisdn,  isn't it gFx ?05:51
nolimitsoyaumop-apisdn, as root, that is. the command, not the check05:52
Joker_kitche: Because I was just doing what it said to do05:52
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umop-apisdnlmao05:52
nolimitsoyaPelo, no05:52
umop-apisdni got tht05:52
kitcheJoker_: let em check it might say sda1 instead05:52
Zoffix_!build05:52
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)05:52
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Joker_kitche: So put sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/windows/ -t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000 into the terminal?05:52
nolimitsoyaPelo, come back out and feel our love instead <305:53
kitcheJoker_: hmm no that's probably right for what it's for, sicne iwndows likes to be the first partition usually but it does need clarification05:53
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kitcheJoker_: you mounting a USB drive or another partition?05:53
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Joker_kitche: In Dapper I had it as hdd105:53
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Joker_kitche: It's a seperate hard disk05:53
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kitcheJoker_ it might be hdd1 still but it might be /dev/hdb105:54
stephHello people i running linux ubuntu and i want to change the name on the terminal how that i can do it :| ??05:54
kitchesteph: change the name on the terminal to what?05:54
umop-apisdnUse kernel framebuffer device interface? <----- suggest this or no?05:55
buckyhow about steph@ubuntu:~$05:55
stephsoftw@softw-desktop:/home$05:55
cyphaseis CUPS going to be avahi aware in Feisty?05:55
stephyes my name is softw@softw-desktop:/home$05:55
steph so i want to change it how i can do that ?05:55
umop-apisdnhow about Mad@Ubuntu05:55
umop-apisdnlol05:55
stephlol05:55
stephrofl05:55
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kitchesteph: has to deal with P105:56
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stephbucky, somebody know how to i can change it the name ?05:56
Joker_kitche: I love you now. Will you marry me?05:56
stephkitche, you ?05:56
checkmatechange your user/computer name05:56
checkmatei would guess05:56
stephso where to go ?05:56
FaintofheartsI need help enabling direct rendering. My graphics card is an Intel Corporation 82815 CGC and I have the i810 driver already installed.05:57
buckychange your username to softw and your /etc/hostname to softw-desktop and cd to /home05:57
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Joker_kitche: That's the drive I've got all of my music on05:57
progesteronehi05:57
progesteronemay i ask a question?05:57
userundefine!ask05:57
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:57
nolimitsoyaFaintofhearts, didnt i gave you a command just now? didnt it help you? did you restart x?05:57
FaintofheartsI ended up with the same settings.05:58
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FaintofheartsIt was configured correctly.05:58
Peloprogesterone,  just ask your question, if someone can/cares they will try and help05:58
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progesteronethanz pelo05:58
progesteronethanz ubotu05:58
Peloubotu,  is a bot05:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is a bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:59
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Faintofheartsnolimitsoya: I find it odd, because this graphics card CAN support direct rendering, it just won't.05:59
umop-apisdnk ppls wish me luck ^-^.. if x crashes ill cry05:59
Pelobest of luck umop-apisdn05:59
umop-apisdn=p05:59
stephwhere to go to change the computer name ??05:59
Joker_luck05:59
kitcheFaintofhearts an ATI card?06:00
FaintofheartsNo06:00
stephwhere to go to change the computer name ??06:00
kitchesteph: /etc/hostname and there is another spot also that I don't know06:00
Pelosteph,  look it up in the forum06:00
Faintofheartskitche: An intel 81506:00
buckysteph, or you might be able to add something to .bashrc  make a back up copy before you try it06:00
buckyhttp://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000484.htm06:00
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kitcheFaintofhearts: hmm glxinfo|grep rendering says no?06:01
stephcan somebody TELL ME WHAT COMMAND ???06:01
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stephwtf is this06:01
stepha help chan ?06:01
stepha06:01
Joker_yesh, steph06:01
Joker_'tis06:01
Faintofheartskitche: "direct rendering: no"06:01
stephso come on help me06:01
Madpilotubotu, enter | steph06:01
ubotusteph: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!06:01
kitche!hostname|steph06:02
ubotusteph: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly06:02
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CheyenneWhat do you people recomend for a boot loader?06:02
stephkitche: so what to type in the terminal ??06:03
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stephkitche: so what to type in the terminal ??06:03
stephkitche: so what to type in the terminal ??06:03
stephkitche: so what to type in the terminal ??06:03
stephkitche: so what to type in the terminal ??06:03
stephkitche: so what to type in the terminal ??06:03
stephkitche: so what to type in the terminal ??06:03
progesteronei used winXP with apache, mysql sever and php installed. I want to use ubuntu like that. So I installed LAMP server. The installation ended up with command line. To be like my winXP and I want a desktop, i have to do "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop". Is it right?06:03
kitcheUse hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname temp that is the command but to make it perm you have to edit /etc/hostname /etc/hosts06:03
kitche!ops06:03
ubotuHelp! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!06:03
stephcan i ask you more 1540 imes ?06:03
nolimitsoya!attitude | steph06:03
ubotusteph: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines06:03
Pelosteph,  you'e about to get banned06:03
stephpelo06:03
stephcan you suck my dick06:03
Madpilotsteph, pull that again, and you'll be kickbanned. Last & only warning.06:03
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fiendskull9Cheyenne: i reccomend grub06:04
Cheyennewhere can i get that06:04
fiendskull9Cheyenne: it should install with ubuntu06:04
nolimitsoyaCheyenne, that is installed with the vanilla ubuntu install06:04
nolimitsoya5sec to late >_<06:04
Cheyenneautomatically06:04
nolimitsoyaCheyenne, yes06:04
PeloCheyenne,  you can look it up in synaptic to make sure it has06:04
Joker_thanks for the help, guys, toodles06:04
adrifthello folks06:05
nolimitsoya!grub | Cheyenne06:05
ubotuCheyenne: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto06:05
nolimitsoya!hi | adrift06:05
ubotuadrift: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!06:05
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iainScribus doesn't load any truetype fonts for me.  Has anyone heard of this problem?06:05
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stahnmacan anyone recommend a PCI wireless card to use in an Ubuntu box?06:06
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progesteronei used winXP with apache, mysql sever and php installed. I want to use ubuntu like that. So I installed LAMP server. The installation ended up with command line. To be like my winXP and I want a desktop, i have to do "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop". Is it right? ... anyone ... any idea ?06:06
umop-apisdnyeah lol tht dint go so well06:06
umop-apisdn=\06:06
nolimitsoyastahnma, did you check the wifi docs?06:06
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iainOK it apparently loads vera, but not any of the TTFs I installed06:06
stahnmanolimitsoya: there are wifi docs? LOL06:06
adriftthis chat is busy. is it always like this?06:06
nolimitsoyaprogesterone, id suggest you get the vanilla gnome or kde06:06
nolimitsoya!wifi | stahnma06:07
ubotustahnma: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:07
dobblegoto set up WPA on dapper, do I edit /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf or /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf ?06:07
nolimitsoyaprogesterone, youll end up with less (to you) useless junk that way :)06:07
jontec_is there a tool to redetect hardware on your system?06:07
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stahnmathanks ubotu06:07
nolimitsoyastahnma, ubotu is a bot. thank me instead :)06:07
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wiseelbenprogesternone, yes you can do that, but is your server to be used as a test server or a real server?06:08
nolimitsoyaPelo, :P06:08
nolimitsoyaprogesterone, 'sudo apt-get install gdm gnome-core', to begin with. then add the tools you want. the messy way is to install ubuntu-desktop, and then remove the stuff you dont need.06:09
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dobblego!wpa06:09
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:09
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progesteronenolimitsoya, when i did ""sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"06:10
stahnmanolimitsoya: ok, very nice ...:)06:10
jontec_Is there anyway to get ubuntu to recognize hardware? I think I may have done something to stop it from recognizing it.06:10
progesteronenolimitsoya,I got "Couldn't find package ubuntu-desktop"06:11
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nolimitsoya!enter | progesterone06:11
ubotuprogesterone: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!06:11
nolimitsoyaprogesterone, thats strange indeed. are you sure it was ubuntu you installed? ;) have you had a peek at sources.list or done an apt-get update?06:11
CheyenneIs ther a net install version of ubuntu 6.0606:11
nolimitsoya!mini06:12
ubotuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD06:12
progesteronenolimitsoya,do you know why? I spent hours in forums ... i got headache. that's why i'm here06:12
umop-apisdn=/06:12
umop-apisdnlol who hasnt06:12
kitche!version|progesterone try this and see what the output is06:12
ubotuprogesterone try this and see what the output is: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.06:12
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nolimitsoyaprogesterone, as i said, all i can think of is: a) you installed the wrong disto - b) your sources.list is for some reason blank c) your apt cache is fubar, and youll need an update06:13
adriftI'm more or less new to Linux and am running Ubuntu. I wanted to run World of Warcraft on Ubuntu and have been able to do so through Wine, but I want to create a more efficient code in the terminal to launch the game. I followed the direction to create a script which would allow me to run WOW by simply typing in WOW in the terminal but when i try to I get an error that reads06:13
adriftbash: /usr/local/bin/wow: Permission denied06:13
umop-apisdnsudo WOW06:13
plutoCan someone help me fix a binary installer i'm running by interpreting this output from the console? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38620/06:13
umop-apisdnnolimitsoya any other ideas on the direct rendering?06:13
nolimitsoyaadrift, why not make a launcher?06:14
kitcheAdrift: you odn't need sudo to do it just sudo chmod +x /usr/local/bin/wow06:14
umop-apisdnstill the same prob06:14
kitchethen try the wow command06:14
umop-apisdnoic ^^06:14
adriftok, i'll try out the advice. thank you06:14
nolimitsoyaumop-apisdn, nope. as i said, it sould JustWork(TM). intel has full oss drivers06:14
umop-apisdnim usin the nvidia06:14
FaintofheartsI'm using the intel :P06:14
nolimitsoyaright... then im confused >_<06:15
umop-apisdnhmm i give up everything else runs peachy06:15
FaintofheartsAnd I can't get direct rendering either :P06:15
nolimitsoyaeither way, no i have no new ideas :)06:15
umop-apisdnjust d00m3 and quake4 .. which are both the same engine06:15
MathewI'm trying to install Ubuntu for the first time on a hard drive i just bought [17179882.936000]  hdc: timeout waiting for DMA [17179887.940000]  hdc: drive not ready for command06:15
plutoBecause that binary installer is pretty much the only thing I can use since I can't get it to compile from source06:15
FaintofheartsThe log file doesn't really tell me much really.06:15
umop-apisdnim thinkin its id not us06:15
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nolimitsoyaMathew, did you jumper it right?06:16
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umop-apisdnoh well thx so much for ur time .. got a paypal acct?06:16
jontec_!hald06:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hald - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:16
progesteronenolimitsoya, ubotu, thanz .. do you mean to uncomment out some line in sources.list and update online?06:16
jontec_!hal06:16
umop-apisdnlol jk =P06:16
ubotuhal: Hardware Abstraction Layer. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.7.1-0ubuntu17 (edgy), package size 347 kB, installed size 1112 kB06:16
Mathewmaster or slave thing?  I think i did06:16
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nolimitsoyaprogesterone, you shouldnt need uncoment anything, but it wont hurt06:16
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adriftholy cow kitche... that actually worked. you made that seem so easy and yet the instructions i was following in a thread online made it sound so complicated lol06:16
nolimitsoya!msgthebot | jontec_06:17
ubotujontec_: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...06:17
pluto!compile06:17
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)06:17
nolimitsoya!msgthebot | pluto06:17
ubotupluto: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...06:17
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plutoAhh.. sorry about that06:17
kitcheadrift: you use linux enough you tend to spit stuff out without looking it up, and make it sorta easy for people to understand chmod +x just makes the script executable06:18
progesteronenolimitsoya, I'm sure i already installed ubuntu LAMP server. So, I can login06:18
nolimitsoyapluto, might i suggest adding '/query ubotu' to the autoexec for your client? :)06:18
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starkruzrMerry Christmas, everybody.  :)06:18
nolimitsoyaprogesterone, just try the 'sudo apt-get update' to begin with06:18
plutoI hope this bot knows LOTS about compiling06:18
Zoffix_Hi, I've installed my WiFi card driver with ndiswrapper, when I run iwconfig it sees interface 'wlan0' properly, however if I run 'ifup wlan0' I get "Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0" Anybody had this issue before?06:18
adriftohh ok. well jeez thanks much. i'll be back with some follow up questions06:18
progesteronenolimitsoya, could you say me in easy terms? I don't understand disto, fubar and so on06:19
nolimitsoyapluto, there realy isnt much to it. apt-get the headers and build-essential. when comfiling run ./configure, make and make install06:19
starkruzrI was wondering if someone could help me out with getting X session forwarding to work?  What I want to do is use Cygwin's X to get an X session on my Ubuntu box at home.  Is there something set by default which prevents this?06:19
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plutoWell, I tried that, but it gets a little odd with the errors06:19
nolimitsoyaprogesterone, ok, type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' in the terminal06:19
calamarihi06:19
progesteronenolimitsoya, do i need internet connection to do 'sudo apt-get update'?06:19
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umop-apisdnlol06:20
nolimitsoyaprogesterone, yes. you need internet connection to apt-get anything06:20
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jontec_nolimitsoya: I'm trying to get someone to pay attention :D06:20
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nolimitsoyaprogesterone, thats sort of the whole deal with apt... type '/msg ubotu !apt' here on irc to see the details06:20
calamariI have firefox locked at version 1.0.8 and I'm trying to unlock it in Synaptic.  When I select firefox and uncheck "Lock version", it comes back and it is still locked.  How can I unlock this package so I can upgrade it?06:20
nolimitsoyajontec_, to what?06:21
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jontec_nolimitsoya: to "is there a tool to redetect hardware on your system?"06:21
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progesteronenolimitsoya, How can i setup internet connection in command line? I got connection in winXP. Butt how can i set up connection without desktop. That's the issue I'm confused. I can't find that issue in forum06:22
plutonolimitsoya: How do I issue these commands when half the files that it looks for don't exsist on Ubuntu? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38621/06:22
nolimitsoyajontec_, i have no idea :) why do you want to?06:22
magic_ninjawhats a good meathod to encode mp3 files to wav for cd burning06:22
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nolimitsoyaprogesterone, dont you have a router with dhcp server?06:23
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plutoI get as far as make clean, but then I get weird erros06:23
umop-apisdnokay Faintofhearts i think i have it06:23
neil__test06:23
tuxplorerI first had ubuntu with GNOME.. I then installed KDE4 from apt-get. But my GDm misses the KDE entry.. How to add the entry?06:23
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umop-apisdnokay to spam an ubuntu addy/06:23
umop-apisdn?06:23
Faintofheartsumop-apisdn: Is that so? What did you have to do?06:23
umop-apisdnhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30409306:23
jontec_nolimitsoya: because I used.... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting and no audio realted entry is present with lspci anymore... AND alsamixer/kmix cannot pickup my card anymore06:23
nolimitsoyapluto, im not following. what are you trying to do? (compiling obviously, but what?)06:23
umop-apisdnxgl wont allow any other app to touch direct rendering06:24
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umop-apisdneven check to see its status06:24
umop-apisdnso disable bery (if ur usin it)06:24
nolimitsoyaumop-apisdn, thats true. thats why you should use aiglx instead ;)06:24
progesteroneprogesterone, I use wireless modem and the PC i'm using now is connected with that modem. That's all I have. Are router and DHCP server in my modem? I'm sorry for my stupid question06:24
iainOOo and Scribus don't recognize TTF fonts I install.  How can I fix this?06:25
plutonolimitsoya: Compiling a touchscreen module from source. When I do a make clean like the readme says for compilation, it tells me it has errors due to /drivers_infiniband06:25
nolimitsoya!wifi | progesterone06:25
umop-apisdnthen add this to ur xorg.conf .. Section "Extensions"06:25
umop-apisdn        Option  "Composite" "Disable"06:25
umop-apisdnEndSection06:25
ubotuprogesterone: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:25
umop-apisdnoops srry06:25
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neil__I'm not Neil, but I'm on his box, with his permission, how do I setup n2diy why to work on this box.06:25
umop-apisdnmeant to notice tht06:25
umop-apisdnthen reboot06:25
umop-apisdndoom3 works now06:25
nolimitsoyapluto, i have no clue as to why :)06:25
plutoMe neither, albiet I have never heard of make clean06:26
nolimitsoyaumop-apisdn, switch to aiglx instead. itll let you run gamel even with beryl06:26
progesterone!wifi |06:26
ubotu: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:26
umop-apisdnvery cool ill try tht06:26
umop-apisdn^^06:26
umop-apisdnberyl has been a pain in the ass.. but its so pretty06:26
umop-apisdnlike my gf.. illl keep06:26
umop-apisdntho its annoying06:26
starkruzrheh06:27
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adriftok next question i have. i have my WOW folder in my Wine directory but i'd like to make it one step easier than just typing wow into a terminal. how would i go about making a shortcut to the executable from my desktop?06:27
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neil__I'm not Neil, but I'm on his box, with his permission, how do I setup n2diy why to work on this box.06:28
pigwranglerIs a core 2 duo considered 64bit ?06:28
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starkruzrpigwrangler: Yes it is06:28
Music_ShuffleYah.06:28
radar1976ok I need a pager program06:28
pigwranglernice06:28
pigwranglerthanks06:28
kitcheadrift: cd to ~/Desktop then run this command in terminal ln -s /usr/local/bin/wow wow then you hsould have a shortcut on your desktop06:28
radar1976I need to monitor some logs on my desktop06:28
adriftbut not all 64bits are core 2 duos :D06:28
radar1976what works best06:29
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adriftawesome. thanks again kitche06:29
neil__I'm not Neil, but I'm on his box, with his permission, how do I setup n2diy  to work on this box.06:29
pigwranglerAnyone ever install ubuntu with parallels?06:29
Music_Shuffleadrift, pity, no? ./cries.06:30
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n30n!dvd06:30
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages06:30
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neil__send a test reply please, so I can show Neil how is message is highlighted.06:30
kitcheneil__: test06:31
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plutoOhhh... I see nolimitsoya, it's not having an error with the driver, it doesn't know how to make the makefile. make[3] : *** No rule to make target `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17-10/drivers/infiniband/ulp/srp/Makefile'.  Stop. Any clue?06:31
rcrookthis is really bugging me.. I cant seem to get lm-sensors or mbmon working, each is telling me some thing thst is blantantly not true... sensors tells me that /sys is not mounted when it is and mbmon keeps saying that it need setuid root which it is!!! ARRRRGGHHHHH!06:31
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neil__kitche, tnx06:32
adriftHaha, i know Music_Shuffle. i recently bought a single core AMD 64 and am wondering if i should have save up for the dual core. ohwell. i'm not even certain that i'm getting my moneys worth out of the single core06:32
neil__kitche, how do I setup n2diy on Neils box, for IRC?06:33
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adriftthanks again kitche, by the way, you make this look so easy.06:33
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Music_Shuffleadrift, heh yeah. My single core AMD64 runs just fine on Edgy 64, no need to tinker with what works, right? Far cheaper too ;P06:34
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progesteronenolimitsoya, My modem is NAVINI wireless modem. It's not in the list you gave me. Where should i go?06:34
adriftyeah, but i'm having some issues trying to find software that will run on 64 now and then.06:35
kitcheneil__: what is n2diy? sicne i know that there is n2diy in here06:35
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Music_ShuffleYeah. ./Sigh. Gotta make do sometimes.06:35
nolimitsoyaprogesterone, its not your modem thats the thing. its what wireless card you have in your computer that matters06:35
adrifttrue06:35
plutoHow close is Ubuntu to Debian Sarge? I've got to get this driver working06:35
nolimitsoyapluto, not very. more like etch06:36
neil__kitche,  I'm on my friends computer, but would like to set my own user here.06:36
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progesteronenolimitsoya, my network card is not wireless card. It's just normal Ethernet card.06:36
chastechI have Dapper Drake and it sees and loads my printer but it wont print - says job stopped - is this usual?06:36
neil__kitche,  just for IRC, not for the entire box.06:36
nolimitsoyaprogesterone, but you said you used wifi internet?06:36
plutoErrk.. there goes that idea, no compiling from source, no universal binary, and no debian.06:36
kitcheneil__: well you just give the user no shell or make his shell /usr/bin/irssi if you just want to use irssi, no clue on how to do it for xchat though06:37
progesteronenolimitsoya, :P I said "I use wireless modem and the PC i'm using now is connected with that modem".06:37
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nolimitsoyaprogesterone, then never mind. didnt you get a dhcp lease during install? that should be all that you need to connect06:38
umop-apisdnaiglx =) all fixed thx again06:38
neil__kitche,  roger that, I'll follow up form my home box then.06:38
progesteronenolimitsoya, didnt you get a dhcp lease during install? how can i check to answer your question?06:39
magic_ninjawhats the apt-get package name for normalize06:39
neil__73, n2diy06:39
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nolimitsoyaprogesterone, you could pay attention during install. ;) post install you can use 'ifconfig eth0' to check06:40
progesteronenolimitsoya, I'm sorry. I remember now. I saw message similar to "unable to find the host in the internet ... DHCP unable" during install.06:41
nolimitsoyaprogesterone, then enable the dhcp server on your modem. thatll save you time and grief no matter what os you use. if you want to set ip by hand, set permanent ip leases on each mac06:42
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tuxplorerI first had ubuntu with GNOME.. I then installed KDE4 from apt-get. But my GDm misses the KDE entry.. How to add the entry?06:42
nolimitsoyatuxplorer, did you check the sessions chooser?06:43
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plutoNot good..06:43
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chastechnolimitsoya: I have Dapper Drake and it sees and loads my printer but it wont print - says job stopped - is this usual?06:43
tuxploreryes. I did nolimitsoya06:43
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plutoI just tried a make cofig since I couldn't get a sudo make cloneconfig work. Am I about to screw my system?06:44
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vaderchastech, I was trying to get the Cannon i550 and it would only load the wrong driver, still have not gotten past that one06:44
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nolimitsoyachastech, not very. lots of folk have problems with thier printer. ;) my self included. :P check out linuxprinting.org to see if your printer is supported06:44
pisantecan someone help me get sound06:44
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nolimitsoyapluto, make is something you execute to a dir. it wont affect your system unless you fiddle with system folders06:45
adriftok i know this is a bit of newbie type question, but as the only user of a home setup what exactly is the danger of logging in as a root user?06:45
pisantei have ubuntu 5.10 and cant get sound playback from my cds06:45
chastechnolimitsoya: it sees and loads my printer but it wont print - says job stopped - is this usual?06:45
plutoThen whats the point of making a cloneconfig?06:45
holycowbasically stick with brother printers, they have linux drivers for all their devices, including rpm and deb installers06:45
PORDOedgy takes like 7 minutes to boot. :(06:45
nolimitsoyaadrift, massive security concerns06:45
tuxplorernolimitsoya: how to add an entry? which file? /et/gdm/Session is not found in ubuntu06:45
chastechthanx vader06:46
vadernp06:46
Toma-anyone used metapixel before? mine crashes with png errors06:46
PORDOadrift say some malicious piece of software is run.  if you are root, it has root privileges and can do bad things.06:46
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pisantedoes soundblaster live work with linux?06:46
nolimitsoyatuxplorer, i have no idea. :) try the 'apt-get install -f' do apply and residual configurations, and make the sessions fileby hand if you think it should be there06:46
holycowadrift, its basically the answer as to why windows users are almost 100% rooted06:46
adrifthow much milicioius software is out there that takes advantage of linux?06:46
holycowno one has seen any in the wild06:47
chastechnolimitsoya: I have hoary hedgehog and it loaded my printer and works fine06:47
kitcheadrift: well a lot actually just that someone has to do it manually06:47
pisantehello somebody06:47
nolimitsoyaadrift, not many, but still, you run the risk of thrashing loads of data by accident or software malfuntion06:47
holycowbut that doesn't mean anything, you MUST NEVER trust anyone on th einternet unless their software is vetted through some type of filter06:47
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holycowtypicallly this is why it is safe to use linux, all the software is vetted through the community, thus if one person discovers a problem its guaranteed a fix will be found soon because it affects everyone simultaneously06:48
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nolimitsoyachastech, then file a regression bug at launchpad06:48
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holycowadrift, it basically comes down to you either do it right or you don't do it at all06:48
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holycowif people insist on not learning how to properly operate a piece of equipment, they get everything they deserve06:49
holycowas is the case with windows users mostly06:49
adriftok. see it just seems to me... well, i've run windows for years and years and yeah, i've run into the occasional virus and what not, but nothing major, it almost seems to me that linux users want to sway folks from using root so that linux stays on the download from malicious hacker types.06:49
chastechnolimitsoya: thanx "sigh"06:49
luischola alguien habla espaol?06:49
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nolimitsoyaholycow, thats harsh, but very true :P06:49
holycowadrift, there is no 'it seems to me'06:49
nolimitsoya!es | luisc06:49
ubotuluisc: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.06:49
holycowthere are professionals and non professionals06:49
progesteronenolimitsoya, I don't know how to enable DCHP server on my modem. and I'm not sure that DHCP feature is included in my modem or not. I got similar problem when I tried to setup VoIP phone with that modem. I can't setup VoIP phone yet because of DHCP problem.06:49
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adriftdown low that should have read06:50
holycownon professionals think its okay to 'it seems to me such and such' but at the end of the day it really helps to have the right attitude and that is to shoot for learning to do it right06:50
nolimitsoyaprogesterone, as router without a dhcpserver is useless junk. replace it. ;)06:50
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Toma-Can someone give me a run thru with metapixel?06:50
holycownolimitsoya, yeah it is, it really is also very very simple.  i'm tired of windows users really.06:50
adriftok well just figured i'd ask. i mean it's a small pain in the butt to type in a password over and over again or type in sudo now and then, but for the sake of safety i see the sound reasoning behind it06:51
nolimitsoyaadrift, its a security concern. there is absolutely no reason to run as root. you only risk valueble data06:51
adriftok06:51
holycowadrift, correct06:51
holycowadrift, the funny thing about human behaviour is that it is also elastic06:51
chastechvader: I also have hoary hedgehog and it loaded my printer and works fine06:51
progesteronenolimitsoya, I told you i don't have router. I just have wireless modem. And my PC is connect with RJ45 with that modem.06:51
vaderhmmmmmmm06:51
holycowmost people don't realize how quickly one can actually get up to speed on stuff06:51
adrifthave or do any of you folks run in root?06:51
holycowfor example after a while typing in sudo is really nothing at all06:51
vaderthen you may want to make sure it loaded the right driver, and or reboot06:52
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kitcheadrift: I tend to use root a lot but I tend to play around with system configurations06:52
adrifthaha, you're probably right holycow06:52
holycowno one here really thinks about it once they get beyond a certain point in profficience, particularly when their typic skills increase06:52
NineTeen67CometDoes anyone know how to take sound only from a dv camera video? Do I need to capture it first, then take the sound off via Kino? Or something else?06:52
nolimitsoyaprogesterone, but if you haveseveral computers you must have a router, or you wont get connected06:52
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adriftyeah, seems like you really know what you're doing kitche, i suppose that'd make quite the difference06:52
pisantecan someone help me with some sound issues please06:52
nolimitsoya!sound | pisante06:53
ubotupisante: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin06:53
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holycowadrift, welcome to linux btw06:53
kitcheadrift: I use to work on another linux distro called SourceMage not very long only about two months or so sicne I don't know bash that well06:53
pisantethanx06:53
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adriftthanks holycow06:53
progesteronenolimitsoya, should i contact ISP provider other than making you busy? I've only ONE computer connected to that wireless modem. No more devices are connected to the modem. One wireless modem+One PC. That' all I have06:54
holycowadrift, the funny thing about learning linux is it really teaches you about how computers work06:54
holycownothing is hidden from you behind layers of bullshit06:54
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holycowso even if you end up going back to windows, you have actually increased your skills06:54
holycowinfact06:54
nolimitsoyaprogesterone, then what pc are you using right now? how do you plan on using a lamp server with no internet connection?06:54
holycowrunning linux will help you undrestand how windows is put together as it works in a similar fashion06:54
nolimitsoyaprogesterone, im just trying to get a clear picture of what you are doing...06:54
holycowor where it doesn't you get people like me telling you why their way is bad06:55
holycow:)06:55
holycowhehehe06:55
adrifti've come to realize that, in fact, i started on linux because a guy in the shop i work at was playing around with compiz. the eye candy did it for me, and i figured i'd investigate. i really love playing around with it, but find it's not exactly intuitive all of the time... well... yet06:55
holycowadrift, yes that is a meme06:55
holycowhumans don't learn stuff in general, we memorize patterns06:55
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adriftright. i'm familiar with meme's06:55
holycowwhat happens is if you have used windows for 10 years or whatever, you have memorized their patterns06:55
holycowright06:55
progesteroneI want to setup LAMP server on The PC i'm using right now06:56
holycowhowever after a while linux actually makes more sense06:56
holycowat least to me06:56
starkruzrHi guys.  This Wiki page says to go to a directory that doesn't exist on my machine (/etc/xinetd.d) and edit a file that doesn't exist in order to get vnc working.  Could I get a little help with that?06:56
nolimitsoyaadrift, there are several good sayings to the matter, fex: 'unix is user friendly, its just picky about who its friends are' and 'unix is simple. it just takes a genious to understand the simplicity', etc06:56
holycowi cannot fathom how anyone can possibly use or administer windows anymore06:56
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vaderadrift, I have put it on several work pc's on a network, and the boss's love it, so guess who is their new sys admin?06:56
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holycowso its all somewhere on the learning curve i guess06:56
adriftit actually "feels" different playing around on linux... cleaner, but unfamiliar. sort of like being in a literally different place.06:56
starkruzrhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC <-- that's the wiki page btw06:56
tonyyarusso!lamp | progesterone06:56
ubotuprogesterone: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)06:56
holycownolimitsoya, lol those are good06:56
holycowheh06:56
nolimitsoyaprogesterone, then how are you using irc if you dont have a working connection already?06:56
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holycowadrift, the thing about linux is that 'everything has a reason'06:57
holycowand discovering the reason is usually a google away06:57
adrifta genious to understand the simplicity. i like that06:57
nix_ferretprogesterone, why don't you try out XAMMP?06:57
holycowgo and figure out why anything in windows is the way it is06:57
holycowimpossible06:57
plutookay, this is ridiculous. Shouldn't I be able to run a sudo make clean from the /usr/src/linux-headers-version directory?06:57
holycowi don't think ms devs understand it06:57
holycowpluto, if thats where your source is but make and make-clean don't need to be run as sudo btw06:58
chastechubotu: I have hoary hedgehog and it loaded my printer and it works fine why can't HP Deskjet work on Dapper Drake after it finds it and loads the driver it says :job:stopped06:58
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nolimitsoyacould someone adopt progesterone's cause please? its past 7am here, and i still havent slept :)06:58
plutoThat's where it's at holycow, but I keep getting some weird error when i try06:58
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VerdRousseaudoes anyone here have a dell truemobile06:58
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nolimitsoyaprogesterone, i wish you good luck and good night :)06:59
holycowpluto, remove src files clean the dir manually redownload and try agaiin06:59
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adriftyeah, it ms seems very heavy to me anymore. still, it's ease of use in some areas keeps me dual booted06:59
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holycowprogesterone, lamp is a fairly complicate set of applications that work together06:59
progesteronenolimitsoya, are you leaving?06:59
holycowit requires a bit of skill in each one to setup right06:59
holycowi'm not sure this is the right place for that kind of support06:59
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holycowwe try to help people install a basic ubuntu system and keep it running07:00
holycowprogesterone, there must be good tutorials on the wiki or forums tho everyone does it07:00
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chastechholycow: I have hoary hedgehog and it loaded my printer and it works fine why can't HP Deskjet work on Dapper Drake after it finds it and loads the driver it says :job:stopped07:00
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derek_Hi07:01
holycowchastech, supported model? i would imagine i guess07:01
derek_Why does my right ALT not work?07:01
derek_I newly installed Ubuntu 6.1007:01
holycowchastech, hard to say, could be an issue with a driver07:01
starkruzrcan anyone help me out with getting VNC working?  the Wiki is not being helpful.07:01
holycowor and issue with the cups print server07:01
derek_I tried changing keyboard models. It didn't help.07:01
holycowchastech, that stuff is fairly easy to debug07:01
plutoholycow: so delete the entire /usr/scr/linxheader directory and and redo an apt-get install?07:01
holycowyou need to enable verbose logging for the cups server07:02
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chastechif i new where to start07:02
progesteronenix_ferret, what's XAMMP? I can't find it in google.07:02
holycowchastech, then you need to tail -f /var/log/somelogfile for cups to watch what the issue is07:02
holycowthats where you start actually :)07:02
holycowpluto, not manually07:02
adriftok, i have another probably simple type question. in order to upgrade from say... 6.06 to 6.10, you don't have to do a complete reinstall do you?07:02
chastechk07:02
kitcheprogesterone: it's XAMPP not XAMMP07:02
holycowpluto, first MAKE SURE you uninstall via apt or whatever07:02
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nix_ferretXAMMP is Apache,MySQL,PHP & Perl running off a USB drive.07:02
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holycowpluto, then just make sure the dir is clean before redownloading the kernel sources07:03
nix_ferretDevelopment in your pocket07:03
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holycowjust to make sure you are starting with a clean set of files thats all07:03
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nix_ferretSorry, actually, that's my bad (XAMMP - XAMPP)07:04
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holycowadrift, nope.  just add the right repository changes to /etc/apt/source.list, update apt db, and do a dist-upgrade.  thats pretty much it07:04
progesteronenix_ferret, kitche ... thanz07:04
holycowadrift, i dont know how to do the upgrade via gui, i never bothered looking that up07:04
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kitcheadrift: sudo upgrade-manager -c07:05
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adriftok. i dont need to do an upgrade right now, i have 6.10, but good to know for future use. how often do they update?07:05
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holycowevery 6 months07:05
mcquaidi'm looking but not finding much, there is no undelete util for ext3 parts is there?07:05
holycowmuch too often for most people but fun for us techies07:06
starkruzrcan anyone help me out with getting VNC working?  the Wiki is not being helpful.07:06
kitcheadrift: every 6 months for new versions of ubuntu(new versions of software and such)07:06
adriftwow, that often. its amazing they can make that many changes in 6 months07:06
nix_ferretIs there a temp fix for the ACPI issues in 6.10?07:06
nix_ferretI hear version 7 is supposed to clear most of that up.07:06
holycowadrift, you probably want to stick with the LTS releases when they come out (long term support).  that will insure stability and not having to deal with the occasional glitch07:07
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Olathe_Where is grub.conf supposed to be ?07:07
holycowadrift, well ubuntu mostly just packages stuff ... or rather freezes off of the work debian does07:07
Hansel/etc or /boot prolly07:07
holycowbut they have really done some great stuff in terms of developing custom solutions07:07
holycowthey are working to solve sound concurrency issues on a global level07:08
holycowthat will be cool07:08
plutoholycow: just followed your instructions, but I still get the same error07:08
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Olathe_I can't find it in /etc, /boot, or /boot/grub.  locate can't find it, either.07:08
holycowthe new init event based method is turnign out to be superb.  its amazingly fast at booting up a system .. infact gnome takes longer to boot up than the linux box it self :)07:08
holycowhehe07:08
Olathe_In /, ls -R | grep grub\\.conf fails also.07:08
holycowwell it seems that way anyhaow....07:08
holycowpluto, make-clean gives you an error? i'm not sure where to go with that07:09
holycowpluto, try #ubuntu-devel07:09
Olathe_How do I have whatever autogenerate a new grub.conf file ?07:09
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holycowmaybe there is a specific issue i'm not familiar with07:09
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holycowOlathe, what exactly can that question possibly mean?07:10
Olathe_Ahh, found menu.lst in the man page.07:10
hustler1how can i enable write access to my USB drive?07:10
holycowits in /boot/grub bro07:10
holycow:)07:10
Olathe_It means that, since I couldn't find a grub.conf file, I wanted some program or another to create it.07:10
Olathe_However menu.lst is the file.07:10
holycowcool07:10
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terracois there a device update area for ubuntu07:11
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Hanseldevice update?07:11
Hanselyou mean drivers updates?07:11
terracoyeah07:11
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holycowits automatic when you update07:11
pisantewhere do i go to get technical support from ubuntu07:11
holycowrigh there07:11
adriftwhere to the programmers for debian and ubuntu find the time to volunteer all of their work... i'm assuming the majority of it is volunteer work right?07:12
Hanselyeah... its automatic with apt-get update07:12
holycowor you can pay for professional help07:12
holycowthey have some figures and contact numbers on their site07:12
Hanseladrift - many open source developers work a 9 to 5 and then do this in their spare time...07:12
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holycowadrift, they don't.  you take a large project07:12
Hanselor they work jobs that dont require their full attention (ie; supporting servers where you only have to work when something goes wrong)07:12
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holycowthey you ad thousands and thousands of developers07:12
cyphaseis there a Zeroconf extension for firefox?07:12
holycowand you spread the development over the course of many many years07:12
holycowyou are correct tho07:12
terracowell all my stuff is unknown to the device manager so thats why I am asking07:12
holycowdebian is truly an incredible accomplishment07:13
adriftwow, that's just amazing to me. the whole open source ethic seems so well.. noble i guess07:13
holycowwe need to recognize that and really give them credit and help tho07:13
holycowadrift, yeah actually its not07:13
holycowwhere is this link i found07:13
Hanselterraco - you can try insmod... you have to guess a lot though  :)07:13
adrifthaha why's that?07:13
holycowits actually a tit for tat game theory modus07:13
holycowits actually very very self serving and corrupt07:13
holycowbut it works because of the tit for tat approach07:14
Madpilotubotu, enter | holycow07:14
adrifti can't tell if youre being sarcastic or serious07:14
ubotuholycow: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!07:14
Madpilot;)07:14
holycowand we have the critical mass of developers / users to make it work07:14
terracowell wouldnt be to hard its all toshiba07:14
holycowadrift, let me find th elink that explains it07:14
adriftso essentially you're saying that everyone is trying to out do the other guy for the props then07:14
holycowno07:14
holycoweveryone is basically out for them selves and their own reasons07:15
Hanselprops?07:15
Hanseluh...07:15
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Ashton_KTried to join this channel with a cd command.07:15
Ashton_KDerrr.07:15
Madpilotholycow & adrift - #ubuntu-offtopic or PM for non-support discussion, pls07:15
Hanseladrift - basically they live in their mothers basements and dont have girlfriends or lives outside of computers.  So in their spare time (which is basically any time spent not working) they code.07:15
terracopersonally I haven't run across anyone who wants credit for making Ubuntu.07:16
Ashton_KToo many people for one person to say "I made it."07:16
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holycowMadpilot, understanding the why sometimes helps explain the how.  try to be a little flexible07:16
holycowif the conversation was about football then i would wholy agree with you07:17
Hanselthe kernel, gnome, kde, firefox... every piece has tons of developers </conversation><take it to #ubunto-offtopic>07:17
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defryskholycow, maybe you should try to listen07:17
holycowhttp://www.videosift.com/video/Richard-Dawkins-Nice-Guys-Finish-First-documentary-47min07:17
Hanselubuntu even heh.07:17
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adriftthanks holycow. Sorry Madpilot, i'll try to stay on topic.07:18
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holycowadrift, there that should help explain the benefit of open source, how the community benefits from individual selfish decisions07:18
adriftthank you07:18
holycowdefrysk, do i need to remind you what i think of people like your self?07:18
holycowi would recommend not tackling me on such things07:18
holycowanyway that it for today ubuntu 10107:18
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Ashton_KI entered at a strange time.07:18
defrysk?07:18
adrifthaha. ok07:19
holycowAshton_K, not at all :) whats your question?07:19
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Ashton_KEh, having issues with the Madwifi driver.07:20
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Ashton_KWas wating for awol to come back to the madwifi channel.07:20
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Ashton_KHe's the guy who has been walking my sorry carcase through the whole process.07:21
exs_What's the best and easiest way of backing up my system?07:21
Hanselexs_ well... unless you have some unique kernel configurations you can just backup /home and /etc07:21
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Hanselthe rest is taken care of via a reinstall.07:21
defrysk!backup | exs_07:21
ubotuexs_: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning07:21
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holycowAshton_K, oh that can be crazy i know07:22
holycowAshton_K, i've given up trying to make odd hardware work07:22
pisantehas anyone ever had problems with sound07:22
holycowi only purchase known to work out of the box stuff these days07:22
Music_Shuffle!anyone07:22
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?07:22
Music_Shufflepisante, what...sort of problems?07:22
pisantei can play my cds but there is no sound07:23
Ashton_Kholycow, the annoying thing is, this card *should* be supported out of the box.07:23
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Ashton_KIt has an Atheros chip in it, it worked on a fresh install.07:23
Ashton_KBut stopped working after an update.07:23
Ashton_KSo I'm doing a manual compile07:23
asdxhi, will feisty ship binary drivers or not?07:23
pisantei have soundblaster live vale 4 gateway07:24
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adrifti'd like to change the icon for an executable on my desktop. how would i go about doing that?07:25
pisantethis is the only chat that i no to go to07:25
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holycowAshton_K, oh that sounds madenning07:25
MeanderingCodedoes ubuntu (xubuntu, actually) have frame buffers enabled already?07:25
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starkruzrcan anyone help me out with getting VNC working?  the Wiki is not being helpful.  I need to know which package to install (there are a few) and the Wiki tells me to edit files that don't exist in order to get it working.07:26
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holycowMeanderingCode, what do you mean, like aiglx enabled by default?07:26
pisantehello music_shuffle????07:26
kitcheMeanderingCode: yes it does07:26
Music_ShuffleErr, sorry. I actually have no idea why you have sound issues. >.<07:27
pisantedamn07:27
MeanderingCodewanting to install qingy (graphical login/desktop manager for console) and it needs frame buffer support, as it's graphical but no X anything is started07:27
pisantecould it be drivers07:27
MeanderingCodeah07:27
MeanderingCodethanks07:27
Cheyennestarkruser whats your problem07:27
kitcheMeanderingCode: without framebuffer the usplash would be useless :)07:27
pisanteis soundblaster live compatible with linux?07:28
MeanderingCodewell, good point07:28
asdxpisante: yes and very well07:28
vaderpisante, I used to have on working with 5.10......... I haven't tried lately07:28
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Music_ShuffleIs it not? I bought a sound card for the low price of $7.49....and it works. I should hope a card costing several orders of magnitude more works. /07:28
Music_Shuffle=/*07:28
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pisantetru that07:28
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holycowMusic_Shuffle, actually the opposite is true07:29
holycowexpensive sound cards have weird proprietary drivers07:29
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pisantemaybe i should go get one 4 7.4907:29
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holycowthe cheapos have been reverse engineered for ages07:29
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pisante:)07:29
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holycowpisante, i did that in a system where onboard didn't work07:29
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holycowit was faster/cheaper to buy one like that than muck about with figuring out why07:29
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Ashton_KI'm leading some poor bastard on the #madwifi channel through installing madwifi on suse.07:30
Ashton_KThis might end poorly.07:30
Ashton_K(Thankfully madwifi offers pre-compiled suse variants)07:30
holycowbest way to learn07:30
pisantei dont even think i have onboard sound07:30
MasterLexxwhat size is a block of ext3fs in ubuntu stndard?07:30
MasterLexx1k or 4k?07:30
Ashton_KSo basically I'm leading him through yast, which I don't use.07:30
Ashton_K:P07:30
Music_Shufflepisante, same.07:30
pisantesad huh07:30
Music_ShuffleThe onboard sound on my board, was a module07:30
Ashton_KI use onboard sound.07:30
Ashton_KI don't have onboard video though.07:30
Music_Shufflethat I can't install without moving the case exhaust, so i said forget it.07:31
Pulshiondoes anyone know how to restart Xserver...everytime i switch to single monitor and then eather reboot or ctrl+alt+backspace it changes back to clone mode in Ati control panel07:31
Ashton_KSeems that's becoming a lot more popular, motherboards without onboard video.07:31
pisantehow do i telll if i have onboard sound?07:31
Ashton_KLook at it.07:31
holycowPulshion, thats how you restart x server actually07:31
pisanteok07:31
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Music_Shufflepisante, check if you have sound ports?07:31
Ashton_KIf the sound plugs are next to your PS2 slots and USB slots.07:31
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Music_ShuffleI'd vote that as a pretty foolproof way.07:31
holycowPulshion, maybe you want to restarg gdm sessio nmanager via sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart07:31
Ashton_KI wish that proof worked in math.07:32
Pulshionholycow...ill try that and get back on brb07:32
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Ashton_KInstead of mathematically proving something intersects, we should be able to say "Just look at it!"07:32
pisantei ndont07:32
pisantedont07:32
Ashton_KNo sound for you then.07:32
Music_ShuffleThen you lack onboard sound.07:32
pisantemaybe my sound card is bad07:32
Music_ShuffleAshton_K, I know! I'd have liked geometry more then. =[07:33
Ashton_KSound cards are pretty cheap, even 5.107:33
Music_ShuffleBad != nonexistent.07:33
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Ashton_KWell...07:33
Music_ShuffleYea. $7.49 counting shipping is cheap.07:33
pisantecool07:33
pisantethanx gutys07:33
Ashton_KMusic, it's worse in pre-calc.07:33
starkruzrCheyenne: I don't know what package I should be using.07:33
Ashton_KGeometric structures, etc.07:33
Ashton_KErm, mathematical07:33
pisanteis there any configuration that i can do?07:33
Ashton_K?07:33
Music_ShuffleEh, my precalc teacher wasn't a huge fan of proofs though07:33
Music_ShuffleSo I got away in that class.07:33
CheyenneDVNC should be installed07:33
Music_ShuffleSame with calc. ./cheers.07:33
Ashton_KMy precalc teacher is going for a PHD in mathematics.07:34
Ashton_KTests hurt.07:34
Music_ShuffleAlthough I might've liked math moreso in general if I had understood it a bit better.07:34
Music_ShuffleBut we digress from the topic of the channel now. xD07:34
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Music_Shufflepisante, not if the card isn't present07:34
pisantelater guys07:34
Ashton_KTrue.07:34
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Music_ShuffleGL.07:34
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Pulshioncow, it didnt work07:35
Ashton_KHypothetically though, if I get this madwifi thingie working, I should be able to simply copy and paste it from one identical machine to the next.07:35
Ashton_KHypothetically, knowing my luck.07:35
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pisantewhat does gl mean07:35
holycowPulshion, well it did if all you needed to do was restart x07:35
Ashton_KGood luck.07:35
Ashton_K:P07:35
holycowsomething else is then the issue07:35
stjepanpisante, graphics library?07:35
pisantetahnx07:35
holycowwhat is it your trying to do?07:35
pisantehaha lol07:35
pisantepeace07:35
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Pulshionholycow, all im trying to do is switch from clone mode to single monitor mode in ati contol panel07:35
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holycowclone mode? oh what is that? you mean dual screen?07:36
CoderXdoes anyone know what is needed to compile glibc 2.3.6?07:36
Pulshionholycow, yea, thats what it was, i want to just have single07:36
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holycowPulshion, okay well, i won't be able to help beyond offering some basic info because i hate ati and don't use it07:37
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holycowPulshion, basically what that control panel dealy is doing is either modifying your xorg.conf file or restoring a single screen version and replacing it07:37
Ashton_KnVidia is nice, they provide graphics drivers for the poor linux-man/woman.07:37
Ashton_K:P07:37
holycowand yes it is correct you haveto restart x for that07:37
Ashton_KArgh! Backup your xorg.conf file!07:37
Ashton_KI've been through that mess before.07:37
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holycowPulshion, however, what it sounds like is that control panel deal isn't able to CORRECTLY restore the right xorg.conf file or xorg.conf settings07:38
Pulshionholycow, yea ill try that thanx. my drivers seem like they arent installed correctly07:38
holycowPulshion, so you are restarting x fine, but the settings aren't properly done07:38
alsi want to get into linux programming but i'm fairly new to linux. Is there any book that you would recommend to me?07:38
holycowPulshion, what you might want to do is either find a backup default xorg.conf file and restore that07:38
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slickycan i limit the bandwith in ubuntu for like dcpp?07:38
holycowPulshion, or you may want to try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:38
Pulshionholycow, yea07:38
Pulshionill try that07:38
holycowand first try selecting vesa to see if that brings it back07:38
Pulshionthanx a lot07:38
Ashton_Kals, depends, do you know C?07:38
Ashton_K(Or C++?)07:39
alslearning c++ right now07:39
holycowthen you can try to select the ati drivers to see if it stays in single moni mode07:39
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Ashton_KThe best thing to do is dive in it.07:39
Ashton_KLinux is designed for crash courses, and if crash is literal, so be it.07:39
holycowif it does you can try reinstalling the fglrx drivers .. make sure you keep a backup copy of /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:39
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holycowi hope that helps in a roundabout way07:39
Ashton_K(If you're gonna muck around in the details, be warned that you may break everything)07:39
Ashton_KUntil you get used to everything.07:39
alsi'm reading building and extending gaim just to get a feel for the gtk and the compilers07:39
alsthen i'll complete the c++ book07:39
alshopefully that'll provide me with enough knowledge to develop apps07:40
Ashton_KMake sure you run apt-get install build-essential07:40
Ashton_KTo get everything you need to compile stuff.07:40
alsyep, did that :D07:40
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Ashton_K(Not realising that just caused awol and me about 3 hours of headache)07:40
alsha07:40
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holycowAshton_K, -_-07:40
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Ashton_KYeah, I know.07:41
holycowthats a homer :)07:41
racarrAls: http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/upe/07:41
radar1976ok back now...07:41
nnSadly, i must say, my love for ubuntu has been destroyed by the retarded keymaps in recent releases which makes caps lock behave as a shift lock, by default07:41
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Ashton_KErm?07:41
radar1976ok  anyone have any issues with Edgy07:41
i7chwhat's a good app to convert DVDs to an ipod-playable mp4 format?07:41
jengc0ilhi there07:41
Ashton_KRadar, besides madwifi, no.07:41
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Ashton_KAnd that's... 90% fixed.07:41
alsi really want to port xfire for gaim beta07:41
slickyhi, does a bandwidth limiter exist in the linux world?07:41
radar1976I have keyboard problems, browser freezing07:41
alsbut by the time i learn all this, that'll already be done :(07:42
racarrals: http://publications.gbdirect.co.uk/c_book/ is also a really good book on C07:42
jengc0il!seen nothlit07:42
ubotuI haven't seen nothlit recently07:42
nnradar1976: Yes, the keymap is busted by default for US users07:42
Ashton_KEh, no project in linux is ever "done," it's either "being worked on," or "dead."07:42
nnradar1976: caps lock acintg as a shift-lock? :)07:42
alsracarr: ty07:42
jengc0iljengc0il@myUbuntu-b0x:~$ sudo -i07:42
jengc0ilsudo: unable to lookup myUbuntu-b0x via gethostbyname()07:42
Ashton_Knn, time to learn how to use a dvorak keyboard?07:42
jengc0ilany idea07:42
radar1976nn yes07:42
jengc0il?07:42
leekrafthaving trouble with an HP 1315 printer -- won't use the black cartridge.  any suggestions?07:42
radar1976uh now07:42
radar1976err no07:42
radar1976shift doesn't work07:43
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b0ss_LOL07:43
nnAshton_K: Why? I type 140 wpm on my qwerty :P07:43
Ashton_KMe too.07:43
radar1976holding down shift will not type upper case07:43
Ashton_KDevorak is supposed to be better though, never learned it though.07:43
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racarrAls: Depending on how much C you know, and if you are looking on getting in to Linux programming http://beryl-project.org could use more developoers07:43
Ashton_KIt'd be a hinderance, since I still need to use QWERTY at school.07:43
alsAshton_k: u seem to know a lot about linux programming. Is there any messenger i can contact you by?07:43
radar1976I'm getting random freezing of programs07:43
racarrals:developers*07:43
Ashton_Kracarr, you use Beryl?07:43
nnwow, that's a bit worse than mine in that if i press caps-lock i get things like !@#$%^&*()_ from my numeric keys, and so on07:43
radar1976I never had this problem with dapper07:43
radar1976on the same laptop07:43
racarrAshton_K: Use and develop :p07:43
radar1976it is a powerbook07:43
radar1976so ppc platform07:44
Ashton_KI'm thinking of using that as my personal one (Ubuntu is on a production machine)07:44
nnracarr: too bad my video card is lacking07:44
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Ashton_KMy love for Gentoo is dying, it won't boot.07:44
b0ss_gentoo owns all.07:44
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b0ss_and slax07:44
Ashton_KAt least, not without a CD and some serious manual mounting and a chroot.07:44
jengc0ilhi boss07:44
racarrAshton_K: I like it, a lot of usability features lately like the new Opacify plugin...and a few more ways to balance bling and usability07:44
Ashton_KI'm gonna give it another go tomorrow night, then I might try Beryl.07:44
nnAshton_K: if you want to see a sick boot process, you need to look at my machine07:45
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jengc0ilb0ss_:07:45
racarrAshton_K: I.e. the 3D windows effect only on moouse driven rotate...new release is today...07:45
racarrActually, I take that back, new release is scheduled for today07:45
Hanselals - I recommend ruby </recommendation>07:45
racarrnn: What do you have?07:45
Ashton_KI've been told that Beryl is a very, very pretty OS.07:45
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HanselAshton_K - it's not an OS07:45
racarrAshton_K: ? It's just a window manager07:45
Hanselit's a window manager07:45
Hansel:)07:45
radar1976ok thats odd, if I have caps lock on, holding down shift gives lower case07:46
Ashton_KMan, I am not looking too intelligent tonight.07:46
radar1976so is that shift-lock07:46
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radar1976?07:46
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nnAshton_K: it boots a small network boot manager from the flash rom, assesses the network situation, and then depending on that, it offers me the list of available boot images on the nearby server07:46
HanselAshton_K - but yes, it is very pretty.  It puts MacOS's eye candy to shame.07:46
alsHansel: I've actually tried ruby. I mean c++ won't be my first language. I've learned php. It has similar syntax07:46
Ashton_KHey, not as dumb as working for hours before realising to try apt-get install build-essential.07:46
nnIf there's no network server available (perhaps i'm mobile) it boots off a raid stripe on 4x 2gb thumbdrives07:46
racarrals: C ftw!07:46
Ashton_KI'll try that.... if gentoo works.07:46
Ashton_KWonder if it's in the Gentoo portage tree?07:47
racarrnn: My computer boots from the primary hard drive, beat that07:47
nnracarr: My computer doesn't have harddrives :P07:47
racarrAshton_K: I think so, but we have someone who releases ebuilds I know...07:47
nnjust 4 thumbdrives07:47
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Ashton_KYes, but "emerge beryl" would be so much easier.07:47
alsracarr: isn't the main difference between C and C++ the oop in C++07:47
racarrAshton_K: If it is in portage it's likely older07:47
Ashton_KTrue.07:47
nnals: basically, C++ is a superset of C07:47
Hanseluh... heh.07:48
racarrals: Sort of, theres a lot of more subtle differences as well07:48
Ashton_KBut no Beryl for me until Gentoo you know... works.07:48
Ashton_KBoot issues.07:48
alsnn: thx :D07:48
Ashton_KEither I borked the Kernel, or Grub despises my guts.07:48
racarrals: C Compilers tend to do quite a bit better though07:48
radar1976nn  how do i fix shift-lock07:48
HanselAshton_K - did you go to lilo on accident?  heh.07:48
Ashton_KNo, using Grub....07:48
nnAh yes.. i've yet to see a decent c++ optimizer, tho gcc4 is getting nice07:48
Matixcan I boot logical drives?07:48
Ashton_KIt'll boot Windows, but no Gentoo....07:48
alsracarr: is there anyway i can contact you outside of irc07:48
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racarrnn: Larger executables as well07:49
nnradar1976: I don't know, my solution is going to be installing solaris ;)\07:49
racarrals: Sure, robbjedi on AIM07:49
Ashton_Kracarr, I'll probably wander your way in July, when I know C++07:49
radar1976well that doesn't work for me... i have ppc07:49
Ashton_K(Or, some of it at least)07:49
nnradar1976: if you avoid RTTI (then why use C++ really tho?) you can disable it and save considerable space07:49
radar1976no solaris for ppc07:49
racarrnn: Though that is optimization as well, just relating more to the design than a compiler07:49
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radar1976rtti07:49
racarrAshton_K: Hehe, good luck07:49
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nnracarr: not using rtti?07:49
radar1976?07:49
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Ashton_KCurrently my programming knowledge is..... VB!07:50
nnradar1976: wrong person, sorry :)07:50
radar1976oh07:50
radar1976hehe07:50
racarrAshton_K: My condolences07:50
nnAshton_K: friendly advice, forget everything you know about VB07:50
Ashton_KWill do, when I stop getting graded on it.07:50
Ashton_K:P07:50
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b0ss_LOL VB07:50
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nnAshton_K: just completely unlearn it. otherwise you will be unable to learn another language07:50
goldbondhow can i setup iptables by directly editing the config file? i read a tutorial a while ago, but cannot find one like it now07:50
b0ss_vb sucks07:50
Ashton_KI will, when grades don't depend on it.07:50
b0ss_it teaches you07:50
b0ss_horrtible programming methos07:50
b0ss_not used int he real world07:50
racarrnn: I don't really code in C++ unless I have to07:51
Ashton_KHalf procedural, half object, half event...?!?07:51
racarrb0ss_: I disagree, it teaches you horrible programming methods used in the real world07:51
starkruzrcan someone help me start up VNC from SSH as opposed to the "Remote Desktop Service" thing in GNOME?  I am 700 miles away from my machine and can't do it the easy way.07:51
nnracarr: the only C++-ism i really love is class's07:51
b0ss_lol07:51
Ashton_Knn, you like C better?07:51
b0ss_racarr: much agreed07:51
Hanselgoldbond - iptables -L07:51
nnracarr: and you can emulate class's with a few macro's and a struct07:51
nnAshton_K: yea07:51
exsI am currently trying to backup my new instillation (just got everything fixed) .. Could I not just put my external HD into my laptop, then copy and paste everything from "/" ?...Would it work when I come to restore everything if I need to? Thanks07:51
alsisnt vb really really bad to learn. I heard it develops bad habbits for programmers :(07:51
racarrnn: Class's are nice, but you can have OO of sorts in C as well, the VFS layer in the kernel is an example07:51
b0ss_yes07:52
nnexs: not a great idea07:52
racarrnn: I would say that does OO as well as C++ through cleverness07:52
Ashton_KEh, while I'm in here, burning up my time.07:52
Ashton_KDoes anyone know much about RAID 1?07:52
racarrBeryl pretends to be OO07:52
b0ss_c++ is hard.07:52
Hanselals - you can develop bad habits in any language... VB just makes it much easier to get away with it.  :)  Using timers instead of loops for example.07:52
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exsnn:  well, i have an external HD and I want to save everything like it is now onto another hard drive so i can restore it later07:52
b0ss_perl is easy07:52
racarrals: rcarr@wired-designs.net on MSN as well07:52
nnracarr: yea, it's definitely doable.. i'm afraid of OO stuf07:52
Hansellol b0ss_07:52
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b0ss_join #perl07:52
nnHansel: actaually, i like the timers thing :)07:52
Ashton_KAnyone know much about RAID 1 in here?07:52
racarrI used to code in perl so much...07:53
goldbondhansel: what command would i use to accept http traffic on 80?07:53
b0ss_i still doo07:53
b0ss_i play with 10 liners07:53
nnHansel: if correctly implemented and used, they can be very good (of course in C you can do the same thing)07:53
alsracarr: perl is extremely difficult to learn :( regular expressions... :((07:53
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Hanselgoldbond - go google "KISS my firewall"  They have a good sample script which configures iptables and explains some basic syntax07:53
racarrals: Mm, regular expressions are hard to read but not that hard to learn after a while07:53
racarrals: One thing I like about python is you can embed documentation in to regular expressions07:53
goldbondthanks07:53
Akuma_anyone here used "ubuntusetup.sh" ? do you recommend it?07:54
nnexs: there's many good backup tools out there, the problem is you need to backup permissions and device files and all as well as just the files07:54
Hanselnn - my point exactly... but in VB you just drag and drop a pretty timer onto your form then add the code for it.  Not that easy in C :)07:54
alsracarr: it's just hard to get use to perl. extremely confusing07:54
Ashton_Kracarr, does the Beryl site have any screenshots? I want eye candy without having to install.07:54
starkruzrIf you know anything about configuring VNC via the command line, please raise your hand.07:54
racarrHansel: sure it is07:54
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exsnn:  is there a guide (easy one) you can point me to?07:54
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alsracarr: that's why i like ruby or php :D07:54
Hanselracarr - as easy as clicking and dragging?  Do tell.07:54
racarrAshton_K: http://www.beryl-project.org/features.php07:55
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xdragonxim having trouble installing drivers for ati 9550 card ... and wanting to pull hair out can anyone help?07:55
FirefisheI'm compiling wine source into a .deb file for ubuntu/kubuntu 6.06 (dapper) for POWER PC and I get this compile error:  http://pastebin.com/84408307:55
racarrHansel: Using something like Qt it can be almost that easy07:55
nnexs: i just have script i wrote for backing my machines up, but i really dont thing it's what you want07:55
nnFirefishe: wine runs on ppc?07:55
racarrHansel: And there are all sorts of simple libraries for timers07:55
exsnn:  why?07:55
exsnn:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087&highlight=backup Does this one look ok?07:55
racarrHansel: Qt designer might have timer stuff, likewise with Glade07:55
Hansel...might... could... possibly... may...07:56
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Hanselwe can go back and forth all day07:56
Firefishenn well,  I thought it would.  I get a compile error.  Or am I missing something **important?** ;)07:56
b0ss_why are there  SO MANY PROBLEMS07:56
CheyenneDI have been trying to help starkruzr with his VNC problem. Can anyone help him?07:56
EclypseI have my FGLRX drivers setup properly (or so fglrxinfo says) but when I run the system tests on Cedega, 3D Acceleration fails....07:56
alsis programming the gui extremely difficult for linux07:56
b0ss_EVERYONE WITH PROBLEMS GO BACK TO WINDOWS!07:56
racarrHansel: Yeah07:56
nnexs: i do backup over NFS from a dozen machines07:56
b0ss_NO07:56
racarrals: No, not at all07:56
Hanselals - not with UI designers...07:56
b0ss_lol07:56
Hanselals - if you do it from scratch then yes.  :)07:56
racarrAls: Qt is a really good widget set, the only reason I use C++ ever07:57
Ashton_Kooo, pretty....07:57
racarrAls: And quite pleasant as far as GUI design goes07:57
b0ss_c++ is hard07:57
b0ss_extremely hard07:57
xdragonxc++ isnt that hard07:57
exsnn:  is there not an easy way of like, using a live cd, booting that up, connecting my external HD and then backing up the laptops HD contents?07:57
Hanseldefine: "hard"07:57
CheyenneDI personally don't mind writing and typing for hours on end07:57
EclypseI have my FGLRX drivers setup properly (or so fglrxinfo says) but when I run the system tests on Cedega, 3D Acceleration fails....07:57
alsYes, i'm totally going to try to attempt creating small plugins before i have to go back to school (7 days from now)07:57
CheyenneDI do that on a daily basis07:58
racarrexs: cp -a07:58
nnexs: are you looking for a one time thing or something for occaisonal backups?07:58
racarrexs: It preserves permissions and all that07:58
CheyenneDI have been trying to help starkruzr with his VNC problem. Can anyone help him?07:58
goldbondhansel: kiss gives me the error: Since the ip_tables, ipt_state, and/or ipt_multiport modules do not exist, KISS can not function. Firewall script aborted!07:58
goldbondwhat does that mean?07:58
b0ss_vnc...07:58
nnracarr: -x might be good too07:58
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b0ss_whats his problem07:58
b0ss_he cant get his server started07:58
exsracarr:  I don't want to go into the terminal or any of that business..07:58
EclypseI have my FGLRX drivers setup properly (or so fglrxinfo says) but when I run the system tests on Cedega, 3D Acceleration fails....  anyone know what I can do? or what?07:58
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Firefishenn: I'm new at this.  Let me guess, .exe=x86 based functionality only, correct?07:59
racarrnn: GOOD POINT07:59
racarrexs: I don't know then, sorry07:59
b0ss_yes07:59
radar1976anyone able to fix shift-lock issue07:59
Ashton_KAnyone know much about the madwifi driver?07:59
b0ss_x86 is 32 bit07:59
HanselFirefishe - you can add a .exe file extension to a linux file... not common and most people do .bin if they do an extension at all.07:59
exsguys, I might just bloody put XP on my external HD, and use acronis true image if worst comes to the worst.. and it's looking like I'll have to07:59
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leprasmurfhello all07:59
blobaughis it possible to select an older version of a program in apt? i do not want the newest firefox. i googled but i guess i dont know what to search for07:59
b0ss_and  x 60 is  64 bit07:59
nnHansel: he's trying to do wine on ppc07:59
HanselFirefishe - you can use .exe file extensions in many architectures as well  :)07:59
leprasmurftrying to get my belkin wireless usb adapter working need some help07:59
nnFirefishe: at last i looked, wine is simply API emulation07:59
Eclypsecould someone PLEASE answer me!?08:00
b0ss_BLOBAUGH: try  suo apt-cache search firefox 1.508:00
Firefishenn:  so shouldn't it, in theory, run  on power pc?08:00
goldbondhansel: are you familiar with that error?08:00
b0ss_sudo08:00
b0ss_my bad08:00
racarrexs: It would be easy, you could open a terminal and type 15 characters or so, but I think ubuntu does have some backup stuff now, search around08:00
Hanselgoldbond - nope.08:00
racarr!backup08:00
ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning08:00
leprasmurfI think I've got it working with ndiswrapper, but when I try to start it up it says the driver won't work with wpa08:00
nnFirefishe: why? It'd have to translate the instructions in the program you're running08:00
Eclypsewow08:00
Eclypseyou guys suck.08:00
racarrexs: Check home user backup08:00
nnFirefishe: which goes against how wine gets it's speed08:00
HanselEclypse - not sure with that one... maybe your X config is missing the right driver?08:00
exsracarr:  I have tried those links already, the links are useless, I checked everyone08:00
racarreclypse: What was your question?08:00
blobaughb0ss_: i dont see an entry for firefox 1.5. i checked that already too ;)08:01
Hansel<Eclypse> I have my FGLRX drivers setup properly (or so fglrxinfo says) but when I run the system tests on Cedega, 3D Acceleration fails....  anyone know what I can do? or what?08:01
Firefishenn: well, for now, I'm just trying to figure out why I get that compile error,.08:01
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exsracarr:  The backup is meant to be  *BACKUP* .. not just user files.. I want eveytihng to be restored, I want icons, system configuration, prefrences, log files .. *EVERYTHING* to be restored08:01
b0ss_then i cant help =D08:01
Eclypsehansel, what do you mean?08:01
CheyenneDI have been trying to help starkruzr with his VNC problem. Can anyone help him?08:01
blobaughb0ss_: thanks for trying :D08:01
Eclypsehansel, I installed xorg-driver-fglrx, fglrxinfo returns the apropriet.08:01
racarrexs: cp -a -x / /media/usbdrive, again, really the easiest solution08:01
HanselEclypse - you ran the fglrxinfo from CLI right?08:01
VerdRousseauWould anyone be able to help me setup my Dell Truemobile 1180 usb adapter with ndiswrapper, Ive been trying for days.08:01
blobaughanyone else knkow how to downgrade a package in apt?08:02
racarrexs: assuming /media/usbdrive is your usbdrive08:02
Eclypsehansel what's CLI?08:02
Hanselcommand line interface08:02
exsracarr:  is this going to restore the partition ? ..08:02
Ashton_Kexs, note that there's a space between those two /'s08:02
Eclypseyes I did.08:02
Hanselie; not from X08:02
Ashton_Kracarr, that's going to copy EVERYTHING to that backup drive.08:02
Ashton_KIf you mount it.08:02
racarrexs: It's an exact copy of the file system, not an image, you wanted an image?08:02
racarrAshton_K: What's what he wanted08:02
Ashton_KI know.08:02
Hanselwell, did you manually update your X config file in which you are now trying to run cedega?08:02
Ashton_KI'm just explaining.08:02
Hanseldid you also update your cedega config to recognize your use of this video driver?08:02
nnperhaps tar might be a good way of doing it too ;)08:02
exsracarr:  I just want to be able to restore everything perfectly. I have an external HD at my aid.08:03
Ashton_KYeah, tarball teh whole damned system.08:03
Ashton_KMight take a while.08:03
racarrexs:  This might be a better solution for you08:03
Eclypsehansel, I used the sudo aticonfig --initial and --interface-type=Xv08:03
racarrexs: If your drive is /dev/sda08:03
Ashton_KRID 0 anyone?08:03
Eclypsehansel, and yes I did update my settings on cedega.08:03
Ashton_K*RAID 108:03
Ashton_K2AM and, halfway retarded, don't mind me.08:03
racarrexs: You can run dd if=/dev/sda | gzip -9 > /path/to/usb/drive/backup.dd.gz08:03
Ashton_KOh my.08:04
Hanseleww08:04
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Ashton_Kgzip the whole thing?08:04
racarrexs: It reads all the data off the disk, compresses it, and put its on the last file08:04
racarrAshton_K: He wanted an image...08:04
exsracarr:  I think I am going to have to go with the acronis true image and windows path08:04
Ashton_KThat might... take a while.08:04
racarrexs: Ok, good luck08:04
Ashton_KEmphasis on "Good luck"08:04
Ashton_KWindows can't see ext3 by default.08:04
Ashton_K:P08:04
racarrit can't see ext3 with drivers wither08:04
exssee, this is why linux isn't that big yet.. things like backing up the system forces users to go into the command line. Users just don't want that08:04
racarreither08:04
racarrit just mounts them as ext208:05
Eclypsehansel?08:05
CheyenneDHey Ashton_K, I'm over-worked, under-payed, and in need of a day off also08:05
nnFirefishe: unfortunately, i'm pretty sure you're gonna need an emulator for the hardware08:05
Ashton_Kexs, if you don't want to muck in the details, you're in the wrong distro.08:05
idlemindhow'd you back up your windows pc after a clean install ... drag and drop copies08:05
idlemindyou can still do that in linux08:05
Ashton_KCheyenneD, no offense, but where'd that come from?08:05
exsAshton_K:  ubuntu is begged to be the easiest distibution08:05
nnracarr: dd'ing the drive directly imho is a very bad solution, what if (s)he has to replace a physical failed drive?08:05
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Ashton_Kexs, you can drag and drop if you want.08:06
Firefishenn: I rmbr reading about that.  qemu for the emulation of the processor..that's what I forgot08:06
racarrnn: Probably a bad solution08:06
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Ashton_KBut exs, I find command line to be easier than GUI.08:06
exsAshton_K:  that isn't  my point.. my point is that there's no nice GUI aplication for backing a system up08:06
goldbonddoes anyone here use KISS firewall? it seems ubuntu users need to change the the reffrences to ip_tables, ipt_state, and/or ipt_multiport. what are their names in ubuntu?08:06
Ashton_KSee, you want GUI.08:06
racarrexs: Sure there is, we just don't know of one08:06
nnracarr: i use tar because even two drives of the exact same model number may have different geometries (particularly maxtor drives)08:06
Ashton_KSome of us, think command is better.08:06
exsAshton_K:  well done, and that's available to you. But hey, there's some people that like GUI better than command, so where do they go?08:06
Ashton_KWindows.08:06
makuseruanyone know of a program to get videos off youtube?08:06
racarrexs: They research and find a GUI program08:07
racarrexs: Looking for you now08:07
goldbondmakuseru: keepvids.com08:07
exsmakuseru:  there's a firefox extension for that08:07
CheyenneDmak08:07
Ashton_KOr they do it the geek way, and setup RAID.08:07
Ashton_K:P08:07
CheyenneDForget it08:07
nni don't even have anything beyond an X server and tinywm on here (no clients, etc)08:07
nnAshton_K: I have raid on my thumbdrive root :P08:07
exsracarr:  they shouldn't have to look around, they are normal users, normal users don't want to dick around with an operating system for it to just *work*08:07
Ashton_KOh my.08:07
Ashton_KYou boot off a thumb drive, and have RAID on it?08:07
Ashton_KThat... is beautiful.08:07
nnAshton_K: yea, 4 thumbdrives actually08:07
Eclypsehansell you there?08:07
racarrexs: No matter what the operating system is, you HAVE to find a program to backup08:07
Eclypsehansel you there*08:07
Ashton_KWhat kinda raid?08:08
nnAshton_K: 4x 2gb USB 2.0 mounted inside the thin client08:08
racarrexs: Or it comes with the distribution, ubuntu in fact does come with everything you need to back things up08:08
nnAshton_K: stripe08:08
Ashton_KSo, 0?08:08
racarrexs: If you do not like that approach, you can search for a solution more to your liking just as you would on any other systeme08:08
racarrnn: That is incredible08:08
exsracarr:  No they shouldn't, there's no law in the government to say "NO OPERATING SYSTEM WILL HAVE A BACKUP UTILITY"08:08
nnyea, just to gain a bit more speed out of the drives08:08
CheyenneDQuick Question, Can you RAID 4 250gb USB Drives?08:08
Ashton_Kexs, calm down.08:08
Ashton_KChrist.08:08
Ashton_KThe thing with ubuntu is.08:08
Ashton_KAll you need to know, to install a program.08:08
Ashton_KIs the name.08:08
nnCheyenneD: Are you booting from them?08:08
Ashton_Kapt-get install programname.08:09
CheyenneDno08:09
exsAshton_K:  you shouldn't have to know the name.. ubuntu should have the application for you08:09
Ashton_KOr applications ->install programs08:09
nnCheyenneD: yes then, easily08:09
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exsand for an application that backs up your system, this is a high priority08:09
Ashton_KThere, a GUI tool for you.08:09
Ashton_KTo find applications, and install them.08:09
nnCheyenneD: boot is slightly trickier ;)08:09
exsAshton_K:  it needs to be installed already.08:09
Ashton_KNo, it doesn't.08:09
nnAshton_K: I lose 8mb on each drive, however for /boot partition (which i have to update on all 4 if i change it)08:09
CheyenneDI have one int drive that the machine bootsfrom08:10
nnAshton_K: due to the bios having apparently random USB boot device selection criteria08:10
Ashton_KSo, you have one in each.08:10
exsAshton_K:  yes it does. Normal users don't want to fanny about with installing programs. This is where we can get the advantage over windows. If we don't have that advantage, then there's no point to switch to linux08:10
nnCheyenneD: yea, should be exactly the same as setting up regular raid08:10
Ashton_Kexs, in case you didn't notice, this is LINUX.08:10
exsAshton_K:  a backup utility is very important08:10
Ashton_KBy the definition of "normal" we aren't.08:10
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Ashton_KSince normal, is determined by numbers.08:10
nnAshton_K: yea, just 8mb, because the bios seemingly randomly selects which usb device if more than one are bootable08:10
racarrexs: There are well in excess of ten programs on your system you could use to back things up08:10
exsAshton_K:  Yo know why ubuntu exsists?.. because mark shuttleworth wants the ubuntu cut into the mainstream08:11
racarrexs: Kdar might be what you are looking for08:11
racarrexs:  Uh, I don't think so, I think it's because he wants to make a good operating system08:11
CheyenneDI have my server make autobackups of my linux pc's monthly onto DVD's08:11
exsracarr:  but the normal masses of people want this stuff installed already, they don't want to dick around08:11
Ashton_K(I don't use Ubuntu for my personal computer exs, I use Gentoo)08:11
Ashton_K:P08:11
nnI recommend looking in the package tool (synaptic i think it is?)08:11
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Ashton_KYes.08:11
racarrexs: http://kdar.sourceforge.net/, it's in synaptic08:11
Ashton_KSynaptic.08:11
nnexs: Why? I don't want anything installed that i don't ask for08:11
nnexs: My 8gb of space is very limited08:12
racarrexs: Ubuntu already has trouble fitting everything on one CD08:12
Ashton_Kexs: Ubuntu lets you do the LEAST amount of work among any distro (including windows) to find software, and install it.08:12
racarrexs: and a minority of people actually back things up08:12
exsnn:  You?.. I'm talking about the mass general population, they want everything available, already installed for that what is important. A backup program is important08:12
Ashton_KSee above.08:12
exsracarr:  Rubbish, totaly rubbish08:12
Ashton_KTotally true, actually.08:12
exsracarr:  people actually don't like viruses08:12
racarrexs: Ubuntu is about giving you the tools to do what you want08:12
CheyenneDI have my server make autobackups of my linux pc's monthly onto DVD's08:12
Ashton_KThat being said, you need to calm down, and listen to this.08:12
FirefisheI just need to say that, of all the linux distros for powerpc I've tried, ubuntu/kubuntu 6.06 (dapper drake) is by far the best!  Most things work beautifully.08:12
Ashton_KUbuntu, provides, among any distro (including linux), the EASIEST way to install software.08:12
nnexs: I work as a repair tech for a very large store, of the thousands of machines i encounter a week, guess how many have backups?08:12
exsracarr:  ubuntu is trying to get in the mainstream, if you don't know that, you're dillusional08:13
racarrexs: Not including all 13000 packages on 12 CDs08:13
Ashton_Kexs, every distro wants to be mainstream.08:13
racarrexs: If you want something that comes with EVERYTHING08:13
Ashton_KIf you think Ubuntu is alone in this, you're dillusional.08:13
nnexs: less than 2 machines out the probably 1500 that end up coming through the shop, are actually backed up08:13
exswhy do you think it's a fork of the debian project??.. it's *EASIER*08:13
racarrexs: I think mandriva? has a reputation for that08:13
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exsracarr:  you're missing my point. ubuntu needs important software08:13
idlemindexs: so why do they use windows then? what does it come with? calculator and notepad?08:13
nnexs: It's there, if you look in the package manager and install it08:13
Hanselif you want "everything" get it on multiple dvd's...08:13
Ashton_KI don't think you understand exs.08:14
exsit needs important software already installed, and that being a backup utility08:14
Ashton_KIt does.08:14
nnexs: It's easier then having to go track down and install software (as in the case of windows)08:14
Hanselthe fact they give you cd's with shitloads of pkgs is a favor to you...08:14
Ashton_KIt's called tar08:14
Ashton_KIt's a nice, handy command.08:14
Ashton_KThe tar, mount, and cp commands.08:14
nnAshton_K: or look in the pkg manager (synaptic? :)08:14
exsHansel:  The masses don't want everything, but they want a OS which has the important stuff. One being a backup utility incase the F things up08:14
Ashton_KLIsten to me.08:14
nnexs: And there's some there08:14
Ashton_KFor about 3 lines.08:14
nnexs: Do you not look in the package manager?08:14
Firefisheamazing, I *asked*, and was sent three cd's of ubuntu for zilch,...pretty schnazzy! :)08:15
Ashton_KApplications -> Add/Remove programs.08:15
Firefishefrom *overseas*  yet08:15
Ashton_KFree software, easy to install. Since NOT EVERYTHING CAN FIT ON A CD.08:15
Ashton_KGot it?08:15
exsnn:  this isn't a case of dicking about in the package manager.. people want, (THE MASS OF PEOPLE) who will be adopting ubunt uif it's capable is the important aplications.. one being a backup utility08:15
Hanselexs - you are delusional... most people dont think about a DR solution and if they REALLy want to backup important images or docs they burn them to cd or to a usb drive... I know of 1 person out of the hundreds of nerds that use computers that actually has a legitimate backup system that performs nightly.08:15
Ashton_KYou know funny, I've yet to see a default backup application in windows, what THE MASSES use.....08:15
racarrI think we should leave this alone08:15
nnexs: It has them, available via the package manager. Personally, i'd not use a distribution that installs more crap that i tell it to08:15
nnAshton_K: there's barely one there08:16
exsAshton_K:  are you insane?.. norton ghost.08:16
racarrexs: If you want help with backing your stuff up you can PM me and I will walk you through any number of methods08:16
Ashton_KNorton isn't installed by default.08:16
Ashton_KSilly.08:16
Firefisheexs: umm...perhaps you could write one?  sourceforge could always use a new project ;).08:16
Ashton_KNorton is a separate company, you have to buy their stuff before it works.08:16
Ashton_K:P08:16
racarrChannel: This has become a flamewar, not support, let's leave it alone08:16
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ezriderdoes this website work for anybody else? http://cammodel.ath.cx/08:16
exsAshton_K:  Uhm, I think you'll find that the majority of windows users, will actually have the ghost backup cd when they buy the computer08:16
Firefisheindeed racarr *bow*08:16
Ashton_KAh, but it doesn't come on the Windows discs.08:17
enfoI just found out about the Add/Remove function in Ubuntu.  It has tons of good apps.08:17
racarrEnfo: Nice timing08:17
exsFirefishe:  I'm not a coder, merely a ubuntu user, a user who is trying to get people to see ubuntus current flaws.08:17
FirefisheI'm compiling wine source into a .deb file for ubuntu/kubuntu 6.06 (dapper) for POWER PC and I get this compile error:  http://pastebin.com/84408308:17
Hansel...08:17
enforacarr: :P08:17
nnexs: Ya, it's wonderful isnt it? saves you much time08:17
enfoDo KDE apps work in Gnome?08:17
exsenfo:  yes08:17
racarrExs: If you have something you would like to do better, submit a specification at http://launchpad.net08:17
Hanselenfo - they can if you install the kdelibs08:17
Ashton_KIf you have the right repositories08:17
exsnn:  It will save other people time08:17
racarrexs: Something you would like ubuntu to do better08:17
Hanselkde-base probably..08:17
nnenfo: Yes, if you have the kde libraries08:17
racarrexs: If you have a support request, ask here08:18
ezriderdoes this website work for anybody else? http://cammodel.ath.cx/08:18
racarrexs: If you want to yell at people about why ubuntu doesn't do exactly what you want with no effort, please stop08:18
exsracarr:  I am like the majority of normal users.. not a tech savvy one.. I am telling you how it should be08:18
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Hanselezrider - womens intimate health coming soon.08:18
enfoHansel: what if I install a kde app through apt-get or synaptics? Will that work ok?08:18
Hanselenfo - it *should grab dependencies, yes.08:18
exsracarr:  That's just it.. it isn't *me* specificaly, it isn't *me* at all. I am speaking for the masses right now08:18
racarrenfo: yes, it fetches the dependencies for you08:18
Ashton_KNo, you aren't.08:18
Ashton_KThat being said.08:18
Ashton_KAdd/remove apps.08:19
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enfoHansel, racarr: thanks a ton08:19
Ashton_KQuick, easy.08:19
Ashton_KPainless.08:19
racarrexs: If you are, I encouarge you to submit a spec at http://launchpad.net08:19
exsAshton_K:  Yes, I am.. I came from the windows crowd.08:19
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racarrexs: That's where people discuss features for the next version of ubuntu08:19
Ashton_KI'm sorry.08:19
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racarrexs: The majority of people here help with tech support, not develop ubuntu08:19
Ashton_Kadd/remove programs.08:19
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Ashton_KFaster than using the CD.08:19
Ashton_KThat being said, it is not necessary to have a backup program.08:19
Ashton_KMost people, do not use them.08:19
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Ashton_KBut, if you wish to have one.08:20
Ashton_KUse add/remove programs.08:20
HanselAshton_K - we've had this discussion... </backup talk>08:20
Ashton_Kk08:20
racarrSo about that uh08:20
racarrTux08:20
nnexs: Stramgely enough, my wife agrees that if you want a piece of software, the effort taken to click "Add/Remove Applications", find it, and install it is very well worth the savings in disk space from NOT having everything and the kitchen sink installed by default, particularly on older machines08:20
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nnstrangely08:20
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racarrSuper tux, tux racer08:20
Ashton_KRight, anyone know about this error? I'm getting it while trying to use madwifi08:20
Ashton_Kwlanconfig: ioctl: No such device08:20
racarrbasically everything with tux is great08:20
nnAshton_K: what card?08:20
Ashton_KNetgear WG311T08:21
Ashton_K(Atheros chipset)08:21
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makuseruis there a way to convert .flv to .mpg in ubuntu?08:21
exsnn:  I don't care what your wife thinks, I imagine that someone of your situation would try to find a geeky-wife to have. I don't care what she thinks should be.. The point is, is that the ubuntu system needs to have a backup utility because it's fairly buggy and the majority of users who WE ARE AIMING FOR really need a backup utility already built in.08:21
nnhm, i know my rt2500 (linksys something) uses ra0 as the device name, rather than ethX, which saddens me)08:21
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racarrexs: The people here do not make those decisions08:21
nnexs: actually, my wife is a complete opposite of me, which is why i'm using her as an example on it08:22
racarrexs: In general08:22
Ashton_Knn, does your distro have a interface config file?08:22
nnracarr: Oh well, i just gained a /ignore entry08:22
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Ashton_K /etc/network/interfaces, I believe is where it's located in ubuntu.08:22
nnAshton_K: i run ubuntu, so /etc/network/interfaces :)08:22
exsnn:  If she's the complete opposite that would mean she's not appropriate to question because she doesn't use computers at all08:22
Ashton_KYeah, rename it in that. Might work.08:22
Ashton_KOr it might bork everything.08:22
nnAshton_K: uh08:22
Hanselnn - :)  exs - not all people want a backup utility installed by default.  I am one of them.  If you try to please all you please none.  Thankyou, drive thru.08:23
nnAshton_K: that's what ifup/ifdown use08:23
Ashton_KYou know, I wish I knew.08:23
nnHansel: i've only got a 8gb / partition08:23
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Ashton_KI think it changes the way the interface works depending on whether it's on or off.08:23
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exsHansel:  With ubuntu is a necessity08:23
Ashton_KTurns the radio off maybe?08:23
Ashton_KWho knows.08:23
exsit's a *08:23
Ashton_KUbuntu loves personal customization. If you want a backup utility, install one.08:24
Ashton_KIt'll take you 10 seconds.08:24
makuseruis there a way to convert .flv to .mpg in ubuntu?08:24
Hanselexs - no it's not.  You are extrapolating your opinions onto the entire user base and annoying a number of people in the meantime.  Opinions are like assholes... I'm sure you know the rest.08:24
nnAshton_K: uh if{up,down} just use settings in /etc/network/interfaces to configure the interface(s) requested08:24
Ashton_KThat being said, unless if you have a problem with the install process, kindly leave us alone.08:24
racarrAshton_K: I spent 2 hours trying to get my wireless to work when I got my laptop because  the laptop has a 'radio frequency  kill switch'08:24
nnracarr: Ouch.08:24
racarrAshton_K: That just reminded me of the ancedote08:24
racarrit was...er...fn+f2?08:24
racarrbut  I tried 4 kernel configs before I finally saw the kill switch in dmesg08:24
racarrHas anyone messed around with synergy? It's mouse/keyboard sharing over network08:25
Ashton_KYeah, don't you have it when you spend hours, and it turns out the only problem was user error?08:25
racarrIt can handle clipboard, and move the mouse from one screen to the other when you hit an edge08:25
racarrpretty impressive08:25
Ashton_K(My wifi card isn't built in, so no kill switch)08:25
nnracarr: sounds fun, got a url? I'll play with it, since i'm hacking on a VPN thin client image ;)08:25
idlemindracarr: no not yet; i've looked into it08:25
Ashton_KI'm kinda annoyed though, hypothetically it should be supported out of the box.08:26
exsHansel:  I've tried to tell you this multiple times. The Majority Of WIndows Users Have Backups.. You Know How??.. Their OEM Computer Comes With Norton Ghost With A Pre-defined Disc Image To Save Their Computer When It Is Broken.08:26
racarrnn: It's in the repos and at: http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/08:26
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TheoMurpseno password (so I leave the key entry blank), it tries to connect and fails. Ifconfig shows no IP address. However, I've just now checked my router settings and confirmed it has DHCP enabled. It works with XP. What can I do to get it working in Ubuntu? The card is supported, and as I've said, it has worked on a couple of occasions in the past. Usually if I couldn't get wireless I'd just boot up XP, but I'm giving up XP now so I must get08:26
TheoMurpsewireless working. Help? Please note that I'll have to boot up Ubuntu and out of XP every time I get a suggestion, so when I get some help, I'll have to reboot this computer. Thanks!08:26
Ashton_Kexs, if you don't have a support question, don't fill the channel with it.08:26
Ashton_K!off-topic08:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about off-topic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:26
Ashton_KDamn.08:26
Ashton_KHow'd that go again?08:26
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Ashton_K!off topic08:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about off topic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:26
Ashton_KOh nevermind.08:26
MadpilotAshton_K, !offtopic, with no space08:27
Ashton_K!offtopic08:27
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!08:27
Ashton_KOle!08:27
nnTheoMurpse: try opening a terminal and running 'sudo dhclient ethX' where ethX is the wireless card08:27
Hanselexs - I have been using computers for over 15 years.  I have never setup backup software.  I manually perform backups and prefer this method.  I know hundreds of people personally who can barely double click their mouse let alone configure backup software.  At no point in your incoherent argument did you sway me to your point.  We are all dumber having listened to you.  There will be no points awarded and may God have mercy on your soul.08:27
makuseruis there a way to convert .flv to .mpg in ubuntu?08:27
Ashton_KExs, Hansel, you can go there.08:27
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Ashton_KUhh,Murpse, what does iwconfig show you?08:27
Hanselexs - to the other channel... I would love to continue to logically destroy your arguments08:27
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nnTheoMurpse: sometimes i've noticed linksys broadband router DHCP servers are a bit tempermental08:28
racarrmakuseru: I am sure there are lots of ways, just a second08:28
racarrmakuseru: Yes, mencoder works if you know how to use that08:28
nnHansel++08:28
Ashton_KAnyone have any idea what that error I'm getting is?08:28
No1VikingI have problems getting my PC, with Kubuntu, connected to my Wireless LAN. I know that it works without problems in Gnome. When trying to set WEP key and Hex it seems it does not save the data and I can't connect. Anywhere else I can put that data so it's permanent, and working, in the system?08:28
racarrmakuseru: mencoder input.flv -ofps 15 -vf scale=300:-2 -oac lavc -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=msmpeg4v2:acodec=mp3:abitrate=64 -o output.avi08:28
nnNo1Viking: i put mine in /etc/network/interfaces08:29
exsHansel:  what dribble you speak. You must be insane not to listen to what I am saying.  MOST OEM COMPUTERS, THE MAJORITY OF THEM HAVE A GOHST BACKUP TO SAVE THEIR SYSTEM WHEN IT IS BROKEN!08:29
TheoMurpsenn I will try that. Ashton_K, I will write it down and be back in a few minutes (rebooting now)08:29
Ashton_KViking, try iwconfig08:29
racarrmakuseru: You might have to install 'mplayer'08:29
Ashton_KFigure which interface it uses.08:29
Hanselexs - TO THE OTHER CHANNEL - BOLD DOESNT MAKE YOUR POINT ANY MORE LOGICAL08:29
No1Vikingnn, ok... will check that one08:29
racarrBut caps lock is like cruise controlf or cool08:29
Ashton_Kthen go iwconfig (config name) enc (password)08:29
Hanselcruise control for douche bag...08:29
Ashton_KDon't include the parenthesis.08:29
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exsHansel:  Oh, I thought I'd have to do that because you're not listening to a word I'm saying.08:29
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HanselI'm not listening at all... I'm reading... TO THE OTHER CHANNEL08:29
robhmm08:30
Ashton_Kiwconfig --help08:30
Ashton_KIf you want to look up the syntax for it.08:30
exsHansel:  Then why reply to something that you haven't read?08:30
reversebladeAshton_K, man iwconfig08:30
Ashton_KOr that.08:30
Hanselexs - #ubuntu-offtopic or if you prefer I can get you /kb'd from here  :)08:30
Ashton_KYet, anyone have any idea what this: wlanconfig: ioctl: No such device08:30
Ashton_KMeans?08:30
Madpilotexs, Hansel - to PM or #ubuntu-offtopic, or anywhere else - but NOT here anymore. Thank you both.08:30
robditto.08:30
Ashton_KDritto?08:31
racarrMadpilot: True ubunteran hero08:31
nnNo1Viking: that should be a good starting point, also fwiw, you can use s:key-string-here instead of the hex of the key, if needed (tho i dont personally)08:31
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Ashton_KASCII > Hex.08:32
racarrnn: Is the raid of flash drives significantly faster than a hard drive? in practice?08:32
Ashton_KBecause I can't remember the hex string to save my life08:32
Ashton_Kracarr, well, it'd be faster than Thumb drives.08:32
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nnracarr: No, it's just faster than thumbdrives08:33
Ashton_KAbout 4x the read/write speed of the slowest.08:33
nnracarr: my machine is incapable of supporting a harddrive08:33
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Ashton_KAssuming the comp can handle 4 simultaneous read/writes.08:33
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VMT2007heh, wow08:33
nnbut it runs nicely off 12V so it works great in the car08:33
racarrnn: But capable of the raid of flash drives? interesting08:33
nnracarr: power supply limitation08:34
VMT2007I got HL2 to run perfectly under Wine08:34
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racarrnn: Ah08:34
reversebladehl2 sucks08:34
Ashton_KI liked it.08:34
Ashton_KThe music, was epic.08:34
Ashton_KTo say the least.08:34
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reversebladehow many level did you play ?08:34
Ashton_KBut, that being said, wonder if online would work.08:34
Ashton_KIt'd probably ban you, tbh.08:35
Ashton_KTheir protection thingie.08:35
reversebladehehe08:35
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plugsi want to make a makeshift usb hub and i want to know, will it be fully functional attaching two female ends to one male with solder?08:36
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Hanselplugs - sounds like an unnatural usb orgy... that might be illegal in most states.08:36
reversebladepc gaming is dead anyway, long live PS 308:36
nnracarr: basically, it's a Neoware Eon 3000 thin client. 800mhz via nemiah fanless, runs off 12V, 2x DDR333 slots, does 1600x1280 @ 80hz, 256mb DiskOnModule (which is currently unused, but soon will be my boot/config partition).08:37
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alsjust wondering08:37
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racarrnn: Nice08:37
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alsi saw in precal how people create equations that model real world examples. I was wondering if there is a book that teaches you how to do the same thing08:38
TheoMurpsenn: sudo dhclient ra0 gives me DHCPDISCOVER on ra0 to 255.255.255.255 part 07 interval 3, 7, 11, 11, 18, 11, then No DHCPOFFERS received. No working leases on persistent database - sleeping.08:38
nnTheoMurpse: is your card ra0?08:38
Hanselals - programatically?08:38
TheoMurpseAshton_K: iwconfig gives me "ra0 RT2500 Wireless ESSID:"linksys" Mode:Managed .... and so on. What do you want to know?08:38
alshansel: no, just modeling real world examples with equations08:38
TheoMurpsenn: Yes, it is ra008:38
alslike how do they come up with equations like that08:39
nnGotcha, you have the same card i do08:39
Hanselals - #ubuntu-offtopic?  or #math?08:39
als:( sorry08:39
alsit related to what i planned on doing :(08:39
plugsnobody can help me with usb question?08:39
Hanselals - I'm sure there are plenty of books that explain how functions can be used to represent real life examples (ie; physics)08:39
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exs"linux-headers-ARCH (This depends on which kernel you use. Examples for ARCH are 386 and generic. The command "uname -r" gets the version of your linux kernel)" What does ARCH mean?08:40
Hanselplugs - I've never rolled my own usb hub... I just forked over $10 and picked one up at frys electronics ::shrug::08:40
Hanselarchitecture08:40
idlemindexs: the base architecture of your system08:40
racarrals: Calculus helps08:40
VMT2007Ashton_K: Yeah, there was a problem with VAC banning Wine users a while back08:41
VMT2007But that was resolved.08:41
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exsidlemind: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome#head-2192bcf1695b57ee27d94de8c95a5c0b6cd2e852 im on that part I pasted, but I don't know what I shold change08:41
alsracarr: thx, my plan was to create a program that would help my brother with parabolic curves that have to do with stocks08:41
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exsuname -r comes out with 2.6.17-10-generic08:41
TheoMurpsenn:  So, any idea what I can do?08:41
Hanseluname -ar?08:42
exsHansel:  Linux engle-laptop 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Tue Dec 5 22:28:26 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux08:42
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Hanseli686  :)08:42
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tonquinhi all, i have edgy installed on my gateway laptop and everything is great but erratically when i'm typing it inserts text from the clip board. or does unpredictable cursor movements.  any ideas whats going on with it?08:43
exsHansel:  I've installed subversion, autoconf , automake1.9 etc etc from this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome#head-2192bcf1695b57ee27d94de8c95a5c0b6cd2e852 and now im onto the bit where it says " linux-headers-ARCH (This depends on which kernel you use. Examples for ARCH are 386 and generic. The command "uname -r" gets the version of your linux kernel)" but I don't know what to change just below that (where it displays the code to08:43
exs put into terminal)08:43
Hanseltonquin - you are probably accidentally bumping the mouse pad?08:43
tonquinhansel: its not that because its fine in windows.  and often its only the keyboard i'm touching.08:44
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exswould it be "sudo apt-get install subversion autoconf automake1.9 libtool git-arch linux-headers-i686" ?08:44
Hanselsudo apt-get install subversion autoconf automake1.9 libtool git-arch linux-headers-i68608:44
Hansel:)08:44
exsok thanks08:44
Hanselyou can check a repository to see if its i686 or just 68608:44
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Hanselyou could even technically go with the 386 or 586 ones since they are all x86 though there is a slight performance improvement from using the ACTUAL architecture and not general.08:45
exs"libtool is already the newest version.git-arch is already the newest version.E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-i686"08:45
VoXis there any downside to setting the reserved block count on a non-root mounted ext3 drive?08:45
nnnow i know why i don't do tech support..08:45
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VoXhm that didnt make sense08:45
exsHansel:  I think i need the linux headers, that's what it says08:45
VoXis there any downside to setting the reserved block count on a non-root mounted ext3 drive to zero?08:45
VoXbetter08:45
screechingcatanyone want to guide me though a setup for my netgear wifi card ?08:45
HanselVoX - you dont want to make ANY changes like that to a mounted drive08:46
TheoMurpseQuestion: Does anyone here have a MacBook? I'm curious if, when you installed Ubuntu on it, whether it --literally-- worked out of the box. I'm tired of Ubuntu not working with my laptop's wireless ever, and was hoping that this problem would be solved if I just bought a MacBook, since it seems everyone is buying one nowadays.08:46
HanselVoX - umount and have at it.08:46
nntonquin: My old dell's touchpad had an issue where sometimes it was so sensitive that my hand even hovering above it within about .5mm was enough to trigger it08:47
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VoXHansel: yeah i understand that part.. but is there any other reason as to why there are reserved blocks apart from root-user/system use?08:47
nntonquin: you can adjust the sensitive or minimum tap duration08:47
tonquinnn:  and did that produce symptons like this?  random text pasting?08:47
screechingcatnn, thats nothing, my laptop responds to my cerebral wave pattern08:47
tonquin:P08:47
Hanselexs - check a repository and see what the linux-headers pkg is called literally since thats what it wants.08:47
nntonquin: text highlighting actually, because paste is middle button08:48
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nntonquin: is yours one of the ones with the fake buttons? (marked off regions at the bottom of the pad?)08:48
exshan how do i go about doing that?08:48
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nnscreechingcat: sexy08:48
exsHansel:   how do i go about doing that?08:49
tonquinnn: i never get highlighting just text pasting and cursor movements.08:49
cpk1I just moved my desktops location, switching monitors and now X doesnt seem to want to start, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg didnt seem to fix the problem either, any ideas? =\08:49
tonquinnn: sometimes the cursor will fly up several lines or more in one jump.08:49
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nix_ferretafter you switch monitors don't you have to change your xorg.conf file unless it was "generic"?08:50
nix_ferretThere is an attached monitor spec in that file.08:51
checkmatehow do i install a .bin file?08:51
nntonquin: hmm maybe it's haunted..08:51
Dr_Fate_whoa08:51
nix_ferretjust a suggestion08:51
Hanselexs - apt-cache search linux-headers08:51
checkmateif i double click it, gedit tries to open it, and right clicking it doesn't offer a "run" option or anything08:51
tonquinnn:  the ghost of christmas past? :D08:51
tonquinnn: it sure seems like that though... it can happen as often as 2 or 3 times in a minute.08:52
nnDr_Fate_: yea, it's really bad when laptops get haunted.. they start doing weird stuff like powering on in your bookbag and running your battery down, or downloading porn to your desktop right before your gf/fiance/wife decides to check her email using your computer then sees a "Hot Lesbian Porn" folder on your desktop and gets pissed.08:52
Hanselexs - I'm thinking it will probably want the kernel version in before the architecture... ie; linux-header-2.1.3-i68608:52
exsHansel:  pm'd output08:52
Hanselno PMs08:53
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exsengle@engle-laptop:~$  apt-cache search linux-headers08:53
exslinux-headers-386 - Linux kernel headers on 38608:53
exslinux-headers-686 - Obsoleted by: linux-headers-generic08:53
exslinux-headers-generic - Generic Linux kernel headers08:53
exslinux-headers-k7 - Obsoleted by: linux-headers-generic08:53
exslinux-headers-server - Linux kernel headers on Server Equipment.08:53
exslinux-headers-server-bigiron - Linux kernel headers on BigIron Server Equipment.08:53
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exsxen-source-2.6.16 - Linux kernel source for version 2.6.17 with Ubuntu patches08:53
exslinux-headers-2.6.17-10 - Header files related to Linux kernel version 2.6.1708:53
exslinux-headers-2.6.17-10-386 - Linux kernel headers for version 2.6.17 on i38608:53
nix_ferretnn, that's the excuse I use too08:53
exslinux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic - Linux kernel headers for version 2.6.17 on x86/x86_6408:53
exslinux-headers-2.6.17-10-server - Linux kernel headers for version 2.6.17 on x86/x86_6408:53
checkmatehow do i install a .bin file?08:53
exslinux-headers-2.6.17-10-server-bigiron - Linux kernel headers for version 2.6.17 on BigIron Server Equipment08:53
exslinux-source-2.6.17 - Linux kernel source for version 2.6.17 with Ubuntu patches08:53
exsengle@engle-laptop:~$08:53
exsHansel:  there you go08:53
Hanselthe last one exs... linux-headers-2.6.17-10-386  <--- you want something similar to that I imagine.08:53
exsHansel:  what do i do then?08:54
nix_ferretur running it on a 386?08:54
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Hanselapt-get linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic08:54
racarrnix_ferret: It's referring to the x86 architecture08:54
nnnix_ferret: that it's haunted?08:55
racarrnix_ferret: Including everything from a core 2 duo to a pentium II to an AMD Athlon08:55
Hanselnix_ferret - it is "allowable" to run 386 pkgs on a 68608:55
nnnix_ferret: oh, my wife has a bigger porn collection than i do08:55
Hanselnn - does she have a sister?08:55
nnyea, -386 packages simple mean that the lowest level of ia32 optimization was used, in order to be executable on all ia32 (386 to 686 class)08:55
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racarrIt's not a matter of optimization  it's just a matter of instructions08:56
nix_ferrethmmm, learned somethin new.08:56
racarrused08:56
nix_ferretDamn...08:56
checkmatehow do i install a .bin file?08:56
exsHansel:  "E: Invalid operation linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic"08:56
racarri.e. pentium 3+ have instructions to operate on 4 floats at once08:56
Hansel./thefile.bin08:56
racarrexs: apt-get install I'm guessing08:56
nnracarr: true, it happens in the optimization pass more so than the generation pass, i believe in gcc, however08:57
nnHansel: no, only a brother08:57
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racarrnn: Mm, I was under the impression it generates the syntax tree, does the optimizations, generates the assembly08:57
Hanselcheckmate - technically if a .bin file exists on your system it's already "installed"...        ./ will execute a binary file... though you should probably throw it to /usr/bin08:57
racarrthen applies the peephole optimizations for specific processors08:58
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exsracarr:  Hansel E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)08:58
exsE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?08:58
racarrMaybe peephole is before it generates the assembly08:58
racarreither way I was nitpicking not important08:58
checkmatewell i got an installer, and it's a .bin file08:58
racarrexs: sudo apt-get install08:58
racarrcheckmate: ./filename.bin08:58
checkmateok thanks racarr08:58
racarrcheckmate:  if that doesn't work try chmod +x filename.bin first08:58
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exsracarr:  Reading package lists... Done08:59
exsBuilding dependency tree08:59
exsReading state information... Done08:59
exslinux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic is already the newest version.08:59
exs0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.08:59
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racarrexs: It's already installed then08:59
racarrexs: I don't know why you were installing it so I do not know if I can help anymore08:59
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Ashton_KIf it's a new install, the kernel headers are on the disc.08:59
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Hanselhe is trying to install some openChrome 2D driver or something and it requires the kernel libraries... since they already exist he can just remove that portion of the apt-get statement.09:00
exsracarr:  ok, ill do the net step then? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome09:00
Ashton_Kapt-get install build-essential?09:00
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Hanselapt-get install what-i-need-plz-kthx09:00
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Ashton_KOh, that reminds me.09:01
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Acidictadpole`hi09:03
Hanselwhy hello and hi there09:03
idlemindholy lots of ppl joining at once09:03
benjkcan somebody please point me at some documentation how I upgrade from 2.6.15 to 2.6.18 ?09:03
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fnfbenjk: Do you mean building your custom kernel ?09:03
Acidictadpole`im trying to get multiple monitors and xgl working on my machine, to no avail so far though. I've done some searching on the internet but i am unsure how to work it09:04
benjkno09:04
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exshow do i find out out my graphics chipset?09:04
fnfbenjk: So ?09:04
fnfexs: lspci | grep VGA09:04
benjkI built a ubuntu system some months ago from the Ubuntu 6.06 server CD09:04
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benjkand that box has 2.6.1809:04
Acidictadpole`would anyone be able to help me get multi monitor support and xgl working on my machine?09:04
benjkI want to build another one, but I have only got 2.6.15 on this09:05
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benjkI did apt-get dist-upgrade but its still only 2.6.1509:05
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exsfnf:  01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. UniChrome Pro IGP (rev 01).. How would i find out if it's the K8M890?09:06
zak"Error: could not load substitute font: -*-times-medium-r-normal--48-*-*-*-*-*-*-*." <-- how do i fix these sort of errors?09:06
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Ashton_KI'd strongly suggest google.09:06
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fnfbenjk: The kernel version depends on your current distribution, Dapper only supports the stock 2.6.15 so far. You need to build one from source.09:06
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idlemindzak: is that in wine?09:06
bradyis the desktop cd the same as the live cd?09:06
benjkwell, I upgraded the other box before solely with apt-cache and apt-get commands09:07
Ashton_KDesktop includes desktop applications that an average user might use.09:07
Ashton_KAs compared to server applications.09:07
Ashton_KBoth are live, I believe.09:07
benjkI just cant find the record anymore09:07
enycI wonder who can help me do any work on bug 70098 -- https://launchpad.net/bugs/7009809:07
fnfexs: Sorry, I'm not sure what K8M890 is, lspci only lists your graphics card model, you need to consult the vendor's doc.09:07
bradythat is what i meant. i.e., it is not clear which one is the so-called ``live'' cd.09:07
enyc-- elso wdere is the right channel to discuss with bug-fixing-helpers ;-)09:07
exsfnf:  ok thanks09:07
Ashton_Kbrady, both are "live"09:07
Ashton_KMeaning you can boot x from them.09:08
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Ashton_KBut you probably want the desktop, unless if you want server side applications09:08
Ashton_K:P09:08
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Acidictadpole`would anyone be able to help me get multi monitor support and xgl working on my machine?09:08
elekishi all09:08
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carlangashola09:08
elekisI have a little prob with pkg-config09:08
benjkthere is something wrong with this system out of the box already09:08
zakidlemind: linux port of self [a smalltalk-derived programming language/environment] ... not much chance anyone will work out how to change the font with it, so im thinking renaming/linking files or changing X's font database [i don't know anything about how X looks up fonts :)] ?09:08
benjkbecause when I try to install kernel-headers, those are only 2.6.1109:09
benjkI need the headers to match the installed kernel09:09
benjkbut apt-get upgrade didn't heltp there either09:09
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Ashton_Kapt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`09:09
Ashton_KThose are back ticks, not apostrophes.09:09
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fnfbenjk: What is preventing you from downloading the newest kernel (since you'll compile it anyway) ?, this is 2.6.19 already.09:10
Ashton_KAww, it's at 19?09:10
Ashton_KDamn.09:10
Ashton_KAnything important between 17 and 19?09:10
idlemindzak: hmm your guess is as good as mine on that one then; is self a IDE?09:10
fnfAshton_K: It's about 20 in a few days ;)09:10
Ashton_KSounds like it idle.09:10
benjkfnf: I need to replicate the box I have09:10
Ashton_KAnything I'd be missing out on if I'm still at 17?09:10
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benjkit has to be the same, to be sure that a test I am going to do is carried out in the very same kernel environment09:11
QwertyManyone tried the new azureus ?09:11
Ashton_Kapt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`09:11
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Acidictadpole`does anyone have any experience with making multi-monitor support work in ubuntu?09:11
Ashton_KTry that benjk09:11
fnfAshton_K: The change log has them all, AFAIK it's mostly related to ipv6, but I'm sure there're monor bug fixes and speed enhancements.09:11
zakidlemind: sorta... if you've used a smalltalk system, it's much more like that than say Eclipse or MonoDevelop09:12
Ashton_KI might upgrade when 20 rolls out.09:12
Ashton_KWill Ubuntu have it, or will I have to compile it?09:12
CheyenneDCan Ubuntu write to a NFTS formated hdd09:12
fnfbenjk: Wait a minute, I'll check if Dapper has provide it.09:12
Ashton_KCheyenne, it's possible, but still a bit dangerous.09:12
benjkAshton_K, thx, I did09:12
benjkstill need to find a way to go to .18 though09:12
Ashton_KSee if the ntfs something or rather package is involved.09:12
idlemindcheyenneD: ntfs-3g.org09:12
SurgeXCheyenne install ntfs-3g09:13
Ashton_KDownload the source from somewhere, and compile.09:13
nnAnyone know where i can find something like an Ericsson r520m?09:13
Ashton_KKeep the old kernel source, just in case.09:13
idlemindzak: hmm i guess it's time to do some good ole' fashioned code spelunking09:13
nnya know, GSM, metal case, etc09:13
Ashton_KHope it's commented.09:13
Ashton_KGood luck.09:13
SurgeXapt-get install ntfs-3g09:13
Ashton_KHow stable is that?09:14
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Ashton_KHe forgot his towel.09:14
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zakidlemind: trouble is, i'm not too familiar with self [it's the first time i've seen it working this far even, outside of screenshots :)] 09:15
Acidictadpole`anyone help me with multi monitors? :(09:15
nnracarr, Ashton_K if you get bored later, look up the Neoware Eon 3000's. They can be snagged as cheaply as 60$ sometimes09:15
idlemindzak: ahh; hmm; does it have forums or a web-site?09:15
Ashton_KAdictadapole, find rarcarr.09:15
nnIf you find one and need help getting ubuntu or thumbdrive root setup, feel free to /msg me anytime09:15
Ashton_KHe works on Beryl, I think they have multi-monitor support.09:15
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racarrnn: Ok, I've been looking for a thin client...thanks09:15
Ashton_KWhat is that thing nn?09:16
racarrUh, I know nothing about multi monitor, don't look at me09:16
exscan someone help me through with this graphics driver tutorial? http://www.hombrepac.com.ar/software-libre/linux/how-to-via-k8m890-chrome-9-igp-and-linuxs-xorg-ubuntu-edgy-610/ I've got up to about half of the pages tutorial but not I'm not a step which I don't know how to do09:16
racarrBut09:16
racarr!xinerama09:16
ubotuxinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo09:16
fnfbenjk: There're several places which store Apt database, you may want to remove/rename it: /var/lib/apt and /var/cache/apt09:16
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Ashton_KI love that bot.09:16
racarr!xinerama | adictadapole09:16
ubotuadictadapole: xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo09:16
kysiuczy ktos zna polski09:16
benjkok, thx09:16
kysiu????????/09:16
nnracarr: ah, this is somewhat beefy for a thin client09:16
Ashton_Knn, what was that thing you mentioned?09:16
Acidictadpole`tadapole :)09:16
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nnAshton_K: it's a thin-client09:16
Acidictadpole`thanks, ill take a look09:16
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Acidictadpole`ooh, how do i close down x?09:17
Acidictadpole`or log out of it09:17
exs"Again, confirm the installation for each step and move on to decompressing the drivers source. Note: when I use # is for root or sudo. For user is $.  tar zxvf CN_CX700-CN800XORG40071-kernel-src_[date] .tgz"09:17
nn800mhz Via Nemiah (686 class), 2x DDR-333 slots, 1x PCI slot w/ riser, runs on 12Vdc, has a usb 2.0 port, some models have PCMCIA slot and SmartCard readers09:17
Acidictadpole`so i can make changes to xorg.conf09:17
Ashton_KCtl + alt + backspace09:17
Acidictadpole`thanks09:17
Ashton_KFirst of all09:17
Ashton_KBackup xorg.conf09:17
Acidictadpole`of course09:17
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Ashton_KYou can edit it before you reboot x.09:17
Ashton_KAnd then reboot x09:17
nnI wish i had gotten one that came w/ the smart card reader and PCMCIA, but i really dont need the pcmcia and i've already installed my own card reader09:17
Ashton_K(use startx to bring x backup)09:17
Acidictadpole`is there a quick command to reboot x while still loaded?09:17
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zakidlemind: nope - it's an un-supported, fairly dead project [and the linux port is hackish at best] , but surely there's some way of doing some font trickery at another level?09:18
exsAshton_K:  are you talking to me?09:18
Acidictadpole`nah that was me :)09:18
Ashton_Knn, so basically it's a very light motherboard.09:18
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Ashton_Kexs, no.09:18
idlemindzak: might i ask what you are using it for or looking to use it for?09:18
nnAshton_K: yea, pretty nice machine in fact09:18
Ashton_Kmicro-atx?09:18
racarrAcidicadpole: ctrl+Alt+backspace09:18
nnAshton_K: it's somewhat near itx09:18
racarrAcidictdpole:* ctrl+Alt+backspace09:18
Ashton_Kitx?09:18
nnAshton_K: custom board, but works perfectly in linux09:19
nnn            installed my own card reader09:19
nn03:17 < Ashton_K> (use startx to bring x backup)09:19
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nnoops09:19
Ashton_KCool.09:19
racarrgrr, I keep on mispelling it acidictadpole ^^09:19
Ashton_KSmall enough to fit... in an ammo can?09:19
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racarror a stomach09:19
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racarror a dog09:19
nnAshton_K: it's got it's own case already :P09:19
nnAshton_K: but probably09:19
Ashton_KDang.09:19
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nnAshton_K: it's a complete thin-client dude09:19
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Ashton_KI'm tempted to buy a micro ATX card with built in sound/video, and fit it into an ammo can.09:20
zakidlemind: just out of interest- to see how it all fits together and such [i'm rather interested in the lisp & smalltalk families of languages at the moment, as well as GUI toolkit programming] 09:20
nnAshton_K: just slap a PCI wireless card in it, a 4 port usb 2.0 hub, and some thumbdrives09:20
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Ashton_KOr some laptop harddrives.09:20
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nnAshton_K: that's harder...09:20
Ashton_K...it has harddrive slots right?09:20
nnAshton_K: sort of09:20
Ashton_KOh boy.09:20
Acidictadpole`Ashton_K: if i close x will my copy/paste clipboard still be intact?09:21
nnAshton_K: it's got an IDE connector of the 44 pin type, but it's male header on the board :)09:21
idlemindzak: ahh i c, well u have the source code for this project corect?09:21
nnAcidictadpole`: no.09:21
Acidictadpole`ok09:21
Ashton_KYeah, edit xorg.conf now.09:21
nnAcidictadpole`: paste to a file ;)09:21
Ashton_KSave it.09:21
Ashton_KThen restartx09:21
Acidictadpole`Ashton_K: there was a copy paste xorg.conf on that site racarr gave me09:22
Ashton_KWait, there's a male IDE on the board.09:22
Ashton_KWhat the?09:22
nnAshton_K: yea, it's male 44 pin09:22
Acidictadpole`but there was anther line i had found in my search09:22
Ashton_Knn, is there even room for a HD?09:22
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zakidlemind: nah, but it's publically available if you're interested... http://research.sun.com/self/release_4.2/release.html, linux port at http://www.gliebe.de/self/09:22
Acidictadpole`# aticonfig --initial=dual-head --dtop=horizontal --screen-layout=right --iagp=off -v09:22
nnAshton_K: a 2.5"? Sure09:22
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nnAshton_K: i've got 4 thumbdrives, a usb 2.0 hub, and a smart card reader hidden inside mine09:22
foobar^how do I add 915resolution?09:22
Ashton_KBecause I'm sure female to male IDE cable exists.09:23
foobar^apt-get install 915resolution09:23
Ashton_KAnd the ease of a simple 30 gb HD would be worth it.09:23
foobar^don't work :(09:23
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Ashton_KThat makes me wonder, how could I get 1280x1024?09:23
nnAshton_K: i cant remember exactly what it was, but something's peculiar about the ide connector09:23
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nnAshton_K: it does 1600x1280 too09:23
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Ashton_KI mean, like, right now.09:23
Ashton_K:P09:23
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Ashton_Kacidictapole has gone into the shell, hope he caught that bit about "startx"09:24
Ashton_K:P09:24
foobar^why is there no packedge named 915resolution?09:24
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nnAshton_K: if not, i'm sure (s)he'll figure out 'reboot' ;)09:24
foobar^http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/x11/915resolution <-- there obviuosly is one :(09:25
Ashton_KI dunno dude, the reboot command wants an operator.09:25
Ashton_KIt took me a solid 2 minutes.09:25
nnor ^~[\_09:25
Ashton_K(Shutdown is easier)09:25
nnAshton_K: no, shutdown wants options09:25
nnAshton_K: such as shutdown -r now09:25
FirstStrikeyea..i accidently did that to my old server once.09:26
Ashton_KOh, I got that backwards.09:26
FirstStrikeand then it hung on reboot.09:26
levanderI just installed this theme: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=32768 - I've got the window borders just by choosing the theme in System -> Preferences -> Theme, but I don't have the background.  Any idea what I did wrong?09:26
FirstStrikei was peeved09:26
levanderOr, what I'm also supposed to do?09:26
Ashton_KReboot needs operators, shutdown doesn't.09:26
nnAshton_K: wherein halt, reboot, and poweroff are aliases to shutdown that pass the appropriate option09:26
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Ashton_KShh.09:26
Ashton_K:P09:26
nnAshton_K: i've been doing this since i was 11 :P09:27
Ashton_KHope he backedup his xorg.conf file.09:27
nnor maybe it was 1009:27
FirstStrikelevander: i've never seen a theme that's included the background image.09:27
Ashton_KI'm 17, been doing this since I was.... 17.09:27
nnAshton_K: ahh, enjoy! :)09:27
nnAshton_K: i'm 23 nowadays09:27
Ashton_KI've been doing this for a few months.09:27
FirstStrikei'm 22..been a nix junkie for about 3 years now09:28
levanderFirstStrike: so, where do I get the background image from?09:28
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Ashton_KSo basically my level is "I don't freak out when people ask me to go into the shell"09:28
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FirstStrikelevander: No idea. Email the author of the theme?09:28
idlemind20 now; messin' w/linux since i was 1509:28
VMT2007I'm going to start a linux gaming community...09:28
VoXreserved block space. i know it's used by root/filesystem, but if i set it to zero on a non / drive, will it affect anything else(file fragmentation, etc)?09:28
racarrI've been doing this since I was 7!09:28
FirstStrikeVMT2007: Good luck on that09:28
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racarrbut that's only 8 years09:28
VMT2007got a good domain name too :P09:28
racarrso uh, not that long09:28
kidbuntuis there an alacarte menu editor on edgy?09:28
Ashton_KMost linux gamers just bite the bullet and dual boot windows.09:28
VMT2007I started with FreeBSD09:28
racarrI like FreeBSD09:29
VMT2007Ashton_K: you'd be surprised09:29
Amaranthkidbuntu: System->Preferences->Menu Layout09:29
nni stared with SCO/38609:29
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Ashton_KNo, I wouldn't.09:29
racarrand it's getting a good ZFS port soon due to more lax licensing than GPL v 209:29
racarrnn: Sorry09:29
nnand CPM09:29
FirstStrikeI run half life 2, saga of ryzom and ragnarok online on linux09:29
Acidictadpole`racarr: I'm having a problem leaving X09:29
FirstStrikethat's about it09:29
VMT2007FreeBSD 3.x09:29
kidbuntuAmaranth:thanks09:29
VMT2007manual transmission operating system :\09:29
Acidictadpole`I press ctrl-alt-backspace and i get a weird screen09:29
VMT2007VERY manual transmission09:29
Ashton_Kall black, with white text?09:29
nnAshton_K: hah09:29
racarracidictadpole: If you just want to go to a tty and top X then y ou can hit control+alt+f1, login09:30
racarracidictadpole: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm or kdm stpo depending on ubuntu/kubuntu09:30
nnAshton_K: it's probably a buggy video card09:30
Ashton_KYou probably just blew three synapses in his brain.09:30
VoXanyone?09:30
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Ashton_KSlow down racarr.09:30
Ashton_K:P09:30
Acidictadpole`racarr: i've tried that in the past and the same thing has happened09:30
Acidictadpole`i shall try the second suggestion09:30
FirstStrikelevander: that theme looks a lot like mine :>09:30
Ashton_Ktry /etc/init.d/gdm restart09:30
racarrstop*09:30
nni've got 2 brokeness in ubuntu09:30
racarrhe wanted to leave X, not stop it09:30
Ashton_Kor /etc/init.d/kdm restart09:30
racarryou could run /etc/init.d/gdm restart from within X09:31
Acidictadpole`well, the new xorg.conf didn't work either09:31
Acidictadpole`it froze in startup09:31
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Ashton_KEh, he changed his xorg.conf, he just needs to restart it.09:31
Ashton_KNot stop and work on stuff.09:31
nnWhy is my caps lock work as shift lock? Also, how might one make it so that he can switch from X to a regular vt? I forgot how i chamged this but i remember it being something new to xorg09:31
Acidictadpole`Ashton_K: I did restart it, the new xorg.conf didn't work09:31
Acidictadpole`i've restored it09:31
VMT2007anyone use Nvu?09:31
Ashton_KCan't help you there.09:31
VMT2007I hate coding HTML09:31
Ashton_KI don't dual scren.09:31
Ashton_K*screen09:32
Acidictadpole`but i needed to actually restart my pc for it09:32
Ashton_KThat's odd.09:32
PORDOi am so lost with alsa right now. :(09:32
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PORDOwhy does this work? aplay -D plug:iec958 /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav09:32
DarthLappyVMT2007, Why?09:32
nnAshton_K: what's the most polite way to tell this kid who's trying to become a '|<-r4d 31337 h4x0r' and asking for help setting up ubuntu to go kill himself?09:32
Acidictadpole`because when i did ctrl-alt-backspace i got a multicoloured line thing at the top of my monitor.. like an error looking thing.. very bad09:32
PORDObut this doesn't?  aplay -D dmix-digital /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav09:32
VMT2007DarthLappy: I'm lazy, man!09:32
DarthLappyVMT2007, Heh, okay.09:32
Ashton_KTell him that /boot isn't necessary.09:32
nnAcidictadpole`: that's a bug either in your video card or the driver you're using in that there are funky registers being touched and not properly restored09:32
Acidictadpole`nn: has there been precedence with an ATI card with that matter?09:33
VMT2007that's why I use Ubuntu and not plain Debian09:33
Ashton_KHopefully he's never used the term "Boot" instead of "turn on"09:33
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PORDOwhy don't linux distros come with audio simple and pain-free?09:34
PORDOalsa is a nightmare09:34
Ashton_KShort of that, tell him that true leet hacksors use the minimal disc with Gentoo.09:34
racarrnn: Yes09:34
FirstStrike2.6.19.1 > all09:34
nnracarr: make it work?09:34
racarrerr wrong person sorry09:34
Ashton_KText only, for the true leet hackers.09:34
Ashton_K:P09:34
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nnracarr: its ok ;P09:34
racarrAcidictadpole: FGLRX consistently causes something like what you are descibing09:34
Ashton_KHe'll give up, or shoot himself. Whichever you prefer.09:34
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nnPORDO: my alsa works fine09:34
PORDOnn mine doesn't.09:34
nnAshton_K: i'm liking the later right now09:34
levanderTrying to figure out what's the difference between a gtk2 theme and a metacity theme.  "ps -ef | grep metacity" says I am running metacity, but I don't see what metacity themes do when I install them.  gtk2 themes, I see how they change the menus, title bars, and borders...  Somebody fill me in.09:34
Acidictadpole`racarr: im still new to ubuntu, what is fglrx09:34
racarrthird person I've heard descibe it09:34
PORDOnn does your sound card have hardware mixing?09:34
racarrAcidictadpole: Did you install the proprietary ATI drivers?09:34
Ashton_Knn, tell that kid who wants to be a "leet hacker" that they only the minimal disc with Gentoo. He'll either give up, or shoot himself.09:35
Acidictadpole`racarr: yes09:35
PORDOnn does your system have four audio devices?09:35
racarrAcidictadpole: That's fglrx09:35
racarracidictadpole: You are the third person I know with this problem and fglrx09:35
FirstStrikePORDO: Disable the onboard in the bios09:35
Acidictadpole`racarr: is there another set of drivers i could use?09:35
FirstStrikePORDO: that will generally fix your alsa issues09:35
nnPORDO: hmm, i don't believe so09:35
racarracidictadpole: Depends son your card, and whether or not you need 3d acceleration09:35
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Ashton_KThis is why I prefer nVidia.09:35
Acidictadpole`racarr: I was interested in getting xgl goign on here09:35
Ashton_K:P09:35
Ashton_KBetter linux drivers.09:35
Acidictadpole`Ashton_K: I had a very good deal on this card, and I usually game in windows :)09:36
racarrAcidictadpole: If you have a card with an R200 or R300 chipset you can get composite managers like Beryl working WITHOUT XGL09:36
Ashton_KNot suprised.09:36
Ashton_KI do the same.09:36
racarrAcidictadpole: Which is the better option  anyway if you can do so09:36
Ashton_KBut, when it comes time for the next upgrade.09:36
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Ashton_KConsider nVidia.09:36
Acidictadpole`Ashton_K: Will do :)09:36
racarrAcidictadpole: What card do you have?09:36
Acidictadpole`racarr: X800 XL09:36
racarrAcidictadpole: You should be able to use the 'radeon' driver09:37
racarrAcidictadpole: and get 3D09:37
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Acidictadpole`racarr: would that be easily locatable?09:37
racarracidictadpole: You can then use things that would require XGL with FGLRX without XGL09:37
Ashton_KHardware support has always been the bane of Linux. If you ever can get your grubby fingers on hardware that has a good driver, or even a driver made by the manufacturer.09:37
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x-r00t-xcan anyone tell me good c++ name?09:37
x-r00t-x!c++09:37
Ashton_KGeorge.09:37
racarracidictadpole: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf change Driver "fglrx" to Driver "radeon" and restart X09:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about c++ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:37
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Ashton_K!gcc09:37
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)09:37
nnx-r00t-x: channel? ##c++09:37
x-r00t-xwith all library files09:38
racarrYou should increment C before sending him to the channel09:38
Ashton_K?09:38
racarryou just sent him to C then incremented it09:38
nnracarr: fine, ##++c09:38
racarrhe's looking for ++c09:38
racarrnn: That's it09:38
Ashton_KWon't even ask.09:38
Acidictadpole`racarr: will i need to reboot my pc again or should i be able to just use the shortcut this time09:38
nnracarr: you should come there09:38
x-r00t-xnn no i didnt say t say coding . i said editor09:38
Ashton_KShortcuts are good.09:38
racarrAcidictadpole: Just run sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart in a console should be fine09:38
Ashton_KEditing?09:38
Ashton_KNano.09:38
Ashton_Kor vi09:38
nnx-r00t-x: no you said good c++ name09:39
nnor joe!09:39
nnjoe rocks :P09:39
Ashton_KOr do you need an IDE?09:39
racarrAcidictadpole: kdm if you have KDE09:39
alslol09:39
x-r00t-xhuh?09:39
Ashton_KThere is a difference.09:39
Acidictadpole`racarr: I'll rephrase: should i be able to use the shortcut?09:39
Ashton_KMost C++ files are written with simple text.09:39
Ashton_Knano, or vi will work.09:39
Ashton_KOr whatever the hell the GUI one is.09:39
Slartx-r00t-x: what have you been using so far?09:39
alsgcc is the compiler used by most, right?09:39
Ashton_KIf you want an IDE, that's different.09:39
nnjoe recently got syntax highlighting. <309:39
Ashton_Kgcc is pretty common.09:39
nnals: yea, or tendra09:39
racarrAcidictadpole`: I would think so , but nothing will change until you restart X...but again even with FGLRX running sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart will restart X...09:39
Ashton_KIt's what the "make" option does.09:39
Slartx-r00t-x: or are you just getting started with c++?09:39
racarrAcidictadpole`: Sho\uld take you back to a login09:40
x-r00t-xasanchez, can you tell me where do i get library file?09:40
racarrVIM !09:40
Acidictadpole`racarr: The only driver i see relating to my card in xorg.conf is Driver "ati"09:40
Ashton_Ksyaptec.09:40
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racarrAcidictadpole`: Oh, you didn't install FGLRX then09:40
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racarrAcidictadpole`: Interesting, maybe it's a different problem, describg it again?09:40
Acidictadpole`i did a sh ./ on the propriatary stuff that i got from ati's website09:40
x-r00t-xsladen, i starterd long time ago . now i am looking for a c++ libaray file + editor with gui interface And with text highlight09:41
Acidictadpole`well, When i use the shortcut described i get a mostly yellowish set of lines in the upper half of my screen09:41
Acidictadpole`and no activity09:41
kidbuntuneed help please, i want to run yahoo messenger on my ubuntu, i don't fully understand the 3rd instruction, http://messenger.yahoo.com/09:41
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racarrAcidictadpole`: if you just hit control+alt+f1?09:41
nnkidbuntu: tried gaim?09:41
Acidictadpole`its one of those bad looking set of lines though, tough to describe but usually associated with a graphical error09:41
Acidictadpole`and backspace09:41
Acidictadpole`not just f109:41
Acidictadpole`i get it with both09:41
racarrAcidictadpole`: Then what happens? you have to restart?09:41
kidbuntunn: i know how to use gaim, i just kinda want to try yahoo messenger09:41
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Acidictadpole`yes, the machine freezes as far as i can tell09:42
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Slartx-r00t-x: ok, you need a IDE then.. use synaptic.. search for IDE and see what you get.. eclipse is one.. there are probably many more.. emacs works too I've heard09:42
nnkidbuntu: gotchi09:42
nnkidbuntu: hang on a sec i'll check it out09:42
racarrAcidictadpole: Mm, I'm really not sure then, sounds like a video driver thing thoughg09:42
x-r00t-x!IDE09:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about IDE - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:42
TrixseyNoob question: What the difference between .tar and .tar.gz?09:42
Ashton_Kkidbuntu: in your terminal, go to the correct folder by typing cd /usr/bin09:42
kidbuntunn: ok thanks09:42
x-r00t-x!synaptic09:42
ubotusynaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto09:42
racarrTrixsey: gz is compressed09:42
Ashton_KThen type ./ymessanger09:42
Acidictadpole`racarr: you suggested changing it to "radeon" rather than what it is ("ati")09:42
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Shin_GoukiHello im on ldesktop CD/live with ubuntu 6.10 , i got a HD and want to patitionate the disk , what tool to use and how do i open it?09:42
Acidictadpole`would that still make a difference?09:42
levanderWhy do some themes have engines on gnome-look.org?  Do I have to install the engine to install the theme?09:42
Ashton_KErm, ./ymessenger09:43
Trixseyok, and .tar is just packaged? 0 compression?09:43
Slartx-r00t-x: or look in the programming section09:43
racarrAcidictadpole`: It might..Xorg might automatically select radeoen if it's set to ATI...09:43
racarrACidictadpole`: Can't hurt to try09:43
Acidictadpole`ok, ill try that09:43
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Ashton_KDamn, it's 3AM.09:43
Ashton_KAlmost 4, actually.09:43
Slartx-r00t-x: IDE=integrated development enviroment.. ie highlighting, hints, editing, compiling.. all in one09:43
Ashton_KTomorrow's gonna hurt.09:43
racarrAshton_K: Jesusmas?09:43
Ashton_KWell.09:43
Ashton_KNo.09:43
nnkidbuntu: the run /usr/bin/ymessenger?09:43
Ashton_KI should say, today's gonna hurt.09:44
alsashton: 4am central...sorry i dont have a clock that is correct :P09:44
Ashton_KI'm in EST.09:44
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nnkidbuntu: just start a terminal and type 'ymessenger'09:44
alsphew :D09:44
Shin_Goukihow do i partioned my HD??? WHat tools do i have to use09:44
x-r00t-xtnx Slart09:44
nnsince /usr/bin by default is in the PATH09:44
kidbuntunn: i'll try09:44
racarrShin_Gouki: Gparted is a good easy to use tool09:44
Ashton_Knn, he might have to upgrade the $PATH, right?09:44
alsshin: qtparted or magic partition09:44
Slartx-r00t-x: you're welcome09:44
Ashton_KIf he's just in any directory.09:44
racarrNo?09:44
Ashton_KWait, it's already in /usr/bin09:44
Ashton_KRight.09:45
nnAshton_K: no, /usr/bin is in path09:45
racarrjust like you can run 'cd' from any directory09:45
racarrbecause it's in a directory that's in your path09:45
Ashton_KI was thinking it was somewhere else.09:45
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Ashton_K(The yahoo messenger, that is)09:45
racarrspeaking of PAth, why does freebsd insist on installing all sorts of stuff to places not in your default path09:45
kidbuntunn: it didnt work at all09:45
alsnn: just out of curiosity, how did u learn all of this?09:45
Ashton_KBecause they want more stuff in your path.09:45
Ashton_KDid you install it properly?09:45
Ashton_KLike, no error messages, etc?09:45
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nnals: well, i was playing with CPM at perhaps 11 on a KayPro 2 (woot)09:46
alsi need to get more linux books :(09:46
abuyazanhello all i am trying to install aiglx on my ubuntu edgy09:46
nnkidbuntu: dpkg -L ymessenger09:46
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Acidictadpole`hmmm09:46
alsnn: whoa...prodigy09:46
Acidictadpole`that /gdm restarted weird09:46
abuyazanbut i found the compiz-gtk is not exist with the packages09:46
nnals: no, i couldnt do much with it yet heh09:46
Ashton_Knn, you forgot the wild card.09:46
idlemindhmm09:46
nnAshton_K: Eh?09:46
Acidictadpole`lemme try and close x again then09:47
racarrabuyazan: compiz-gtk isn't AIGLX, AIGLX is part of the X Server09:47
Ashton_Kdpkg -l ymessenger*09:47
idlemindi was thinking about that backup thing ...09:47
abuyazanso i got no borders for my windows09:47
nnAshton_K: wildcard for?09:47
Ashton_KThe .deb file has a bunch of version numbers on it.09:47
x-r00t-xkidbuntu, get the gaim messenger . its better than yahoo messenger on linux09:47
Ashton_KIf you don't include the *, it won't find the file.09:47
kidbuntunn: not found09:47
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Acidictadpole`racarr: score!09:47
Ashton_KThat's a good point.09:47
PORDOwhy does this work when i use it as a device for aplay? plug:iec95809:47
kidbuntunn: well anyway i'll just use gaim09:47
Ashton_KKidbuntu, Gaim comes installed by default, it'll work.09:47
racarrabuyazan: If you can't get compiz working try http://beryl-project.org, I can help get you set up w/iwth it09:47
idlemindhmm; i'm not terribly sure of how to go about it ... i guess it's unique to your situation09:48
nnkidbuntu: gimme a sec, install it on my wife's machine09:48
x-r00t-x!emacs09:48
ubotuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code09:48
racarrAcidictadpole`: Good! If you need help getting the AIGLX stuff set up I can walk you through it, it's actually just there with that driver, you just need to install the composite manager09:48
Ashton_KBut if you wanted to use Yahoo's client, you'd have to go to the directory where the file is (with the terminal), and type "dpkg -l ymessenger*"09:48
kidbuntunn: ok09:48
Acidictadpole`racarr: aiglx? :)09:48
Ashton_KKidbuntu.09:48
Ashton_KWhere'd you put the file you downloaded?09:48
Ashton_KYour desktop?09:48
Acidictadpole`racarr: im interested in that beryl stuff too09:48
kidbuntuAshton_K : yep09:49
racarrAcidictadpole`: You said you wanted to get XGL working, AIGLX sort of provides the same functionality (at a very surface level) but doesn't require a whole other X server09:49
Ashton_KKnow how to use the terminal?09:49
kidbuntuAshton_K : yeah09:49
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racarrAcidictadpole`: The radeon driver can do that, so you just has to install the beryl/compiz/whatever09:49
kidbuntuAshton_K : yeah? i guess09:49
Ashton_KOkay, open it up, and change the directory to your home directory.09:49
Arrickhow do I search for a file in ubuntu breezy?09:49
Ashton_Ktype "cd /home/"user name"/Desktop"09:49
Acidictadpole`racarr: whats the difference between aiglx and beryl?09:49
Ashton_KObviously, put your username there (this stuff IS cap sensitive, be careful)09:49
Ashton_KOnce you're there, type "ls", you should see the file there.09:50
racarracidictadpole`: AIGLX is part of the X server, and Beryl is a window manager, kind of like GNOME vs Xorg, except gnome is a  whole desktop enviroment and beryl is just a window manager09:50
kidbuntuAshton_K : then?09:50
racarracidictadpole`: AIGLX provides the means for beryl to function, XGL does as well, but for your card AIGLX is the better choice09:50
Acidictadpole`racarr: so you would say aiglx is more suited to what i was looking for09:50
exsjust incase i ruin things, if i mess up my  xorg.conf (ive backed it up), i'll use the command "sudo cp /path/to/backup.conf //etc/X11/xorg.conf" Right?09:50
Ashton_K"sudo dpkg -l ymessenger*"09:50
Ashton_KThen typing "ymessenger" should launch it09:50
racarrAcidictadpole`: Well, AIGLX by itself doesn't do anything, but if you mean in comparison to XGL then yes09:51
nnacck that package requires some crazy libs09:51
Ashton_KWhat, the ymessenger?09:51
Acidictadpole`racarr: I understand, shall we talk in a different channel for it (would that be easier?)09:51
racarrI sent you a PM09:51
x-r00t-xasanchez, yahoo messenger09:51
racarrAcidictadpole: ^^09:51
Acidictadpole`im not registered on this nick yet09:51
Acidictadpole`is there a way i can dual auth?09:51
Ashton_Klibssl0.9.609:51
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racarrdual auth?09:51
Ashton_KHrm, what the heck is that?09:51
Acidictadpole`i have another session on freenode with another account09:52
racarrOh, not sure09:52
Acidictadpole`Acidictadpole, which i cant access just yet09:52
Acidictadpole`its still logged in and all09:52
Acidictadpole`maybe we could just join another channel09:52
Ashton_Knn: What file do you think that is, libssl0.9.6?09:52
kidbuntuAshton_K: never mind, it still doesnt work, i09:52
Acidictadpole`pm me the name and ill join09:52
kidbuntuAshton_K: never mind, it still doesnt work, i'09:52
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Ashton_KYeah, it has some dependcy issues.09:52
kidbuntuAshton_K: never mind, it still doesnt work, i'm just waisting time, i'll just use gaim09:52
Ashton_KJust use Gaim.09:52
racarrAcidictadpole: #tempberyl09:52
Ashton_KIt needs some libraries.09:53
nnAshton_K: it's an openssl lib, i'm looking for it09:53
Arrickhow do I search for a file in ubuntu breezy?09:53
nnAshton_K: you could install the proper packages and do a force install of the deb09:53
Ashton_KProlly.09:53
KesmanIs there a 64-bit version of wine available anywhere?09:53
Ashton_KSynaptic doesn't have the right libraries though.09:53
nnAshton_K: i don't know if i'd personally do it, since obviously it's not static linked in this case09:54
Ashton_KIt only has libssl0.9.7 and 0.9.809:54
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Ashton_KThat and we have Gaim.09:54
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nnAshton_K: i'd install 0.9.7 should be close09:54
nnAshton_K: or pork/irssi/screen :)09:54
Ashton_KProbably better, tbh.09:54
Shin_Gouk1hello i need help withan ubuntu install09:54
kidbuntuhow do i remove the commands that i typed previously from my terminal, it just keep on adding09:54
Ashton_KWhich part?09:54
Arrickwow, no-one knows how to search for a file in ubuntu?09:54
Ashton_Kit just keeps on what?09:54
Ashton_Kcd /09:54
nnArrick: you know the name?09:54
SurgeX!ide09:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:55
ArrickI know at least part of the name09:55
Shin_Gouk1i got a 120 FAT 32 HD and now im with dektop/live 6.10 how do i fprmat it for Linux?09:55
Arrickthe title anyways09:55
nnArrick: you can do find / -name \*part_you_know\*09:55
nnor such09:55
SurgeX!glibc09:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about glibc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:55
Ashton_KShin, do you want to format *ALL* of it?09:55
Ashton_KOr part of it?09:55
Shin_Gouk1just part ashton09:55
Ashton_KHave you defragmented recently?09:55
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nnDewhata?09:55
Shin_Gouk1i dont mind the whole disk can be erased09:56
Ashton_KWell, if you want to remove everything.09:56
Shin_Gouk1i just wanna get going ^09:56
kidbuntuhow do i remove the commands that i typed previously from my terminal, it just keep on adding09:56
Ashton_KDownload the live disk, put it in, restart the computer, follow instructions.09:56
Shin_Gouk1im in09:56
Ashton_KKeeps on adding what?09:56
Arrickthanks nn09:56
Ashton_KTry... closing the terminal?09:56
Shin_Gouk1but it tells me i cant put swap and boot on same partionen...09:56
nnkidbuntu: you mean history?09:56
Ashton_KYou don't have to.09:56
nnShin_Gouk1: you can't, because swap is a different fs type09:57
kidbuntunn: if thats what you call it?09:57
kidbuntunn: yes09:57
Ashton_KOh, wait, brain's broken.09:57
Ashton_KYeah, it'll make 2 partitions at minimum.09:57
Ashton_KBut you can make quite a few.09:57
Ashton_KI have 4 on this box.09:57
nnkidbuntu: you mean the output of the old commands? just use 'clear', if you wanna remove the history (pressing up/down)09:57
nnyou can rm ~/.bash_history09:57
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Shin_Gouk1nn yes thats alright... plz just tell me how do i chavie fast as possible: i have 120 GB Fat 32 i want , 10 GB ext3 and swap09:57
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Shin_Gouk1how do i do it?09:58
racarrShin_Gouk1: You don't want 10GB swap09:58
nnShin_Gouk1: how much ram you have?09:58
racarrShin_Gouk1: Swap is for when you run out of RAM...maximim I would say 150% the amount of ram you have09:58
Ashton_KDouble the amount of ram you have, that's how much swap you should use.09:58
kidbuntunn: doing bash history just added the rm ~/.bash_history09:58
Ashton_KMax.09:58
Shin_Gouk1no not 10 gb swapswap may be 1 or 2 gb but "main ext  abut 1009:58
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racarrDouble?09:58
Ashton_KMax.09:58
racarrkidbuntu: Have to do it from outside of bash09:58
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Shin_Gouk1...not tell me how much , tell me plzzz HOW :D09:58
kidbunturacarr: how?09:59
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Ashton_KDepends how much ram you have, if you have very little ram, you'll get the ram overrun easier.09:59
nnracarr: or just do it then close the terminal and reopen it09:59
Acidictadpole`racarr: did you leave that channel?09:59
CyberSlugI desperately need help in the disabling/removala of a http proxy. Can some one help?09:59
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Ashton_KKidbuntu, places -> home.09:59
racarrnn: I'm pretty sure when you close the terminal bash will dump the file again...09:59
racarrAcidictadpole`: No, I'm there09:59
Ashton_KNavigate to /bin/bash and delete the file.09:59
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Acidictadpole`racarr: i did a whois on you and it did not show up, i forgot the name of the channel :/09:59
nnracarr: i believe it does an open() write() close() every new line09:59
Ashton_KIt's hidden, you'll need to go to view -> "Show hidden files"09:59
Shin_Gouk1:/ no ideas for formating?09:59
racarrAcidictadpole`: #tempberyl10:00
Ashton_KLet it automatically decide on formatting.10:00
Ashton_KIt'll do decently.10:00
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racarrnn: I thought it cached them and if some are missing it dumps them all10:00
racarrMaybe not10:00
racarrat least caches a certain amount10:00
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ayamahi all~ I'm using the mIRC Power Pack 8, but i got an error repeating "/anick: xxxxxxxx(what what what) ( Line xxx, connection.mrc ), who can save me~~~~~~~10:00
kidbuntuthanks it did10:00
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Ashton_KFirst response: Use Gaim.10:00
nnayama: apt-get install irssi or apt-get install xchat.10:00
Shin_Gouk1i try10:00
idlemindnight all10:01
CyberSlugAnyone?10:01
Shin_Gouk1is it possibl eto resize the main partition afterwards?10:01
Arrickanyone familiar with supybots here?10:01
Ashton_KYeah, sure.10:01
Ashton_KIt's risky, but it's possible to do.10:01
Ashton_KYou probably won't need to though.10:01
Ashton_K120 gigs of space, with maybe 2 gone to swap, you won't run out of room.10:02
Ashton_KUnless if you really feel the need for a separate /boot or a separate /home partition.10:02
Shin_Gouk1WHY its risky?10:02
Ashton_KResizing partitions after they've been in use for a while sometimes fails.10:02
Ashton_KI'm not a huge fan of it.10:02
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Shin_Gouk1im sure i have enough space.. but i just wantd to use ext 3 ONLY for the OS and Linux programm files so i want ONLY about 7-10 Gb10:03
nnAshton_K: i usually go with 32mb /boot10:03
nnat minimum10:03
Ashton_KI've got 4 gigs boot.10:03
Ashton_KAnd 2 gigs swap.10:03
Ashton_K(Went liberal, just screwing around with multiple kernels)10:03
nuggienthat's a huge /boot10:03
Ashton_KMultiple kernels? Possibly.10:03
Shin_Gouk1see i want also 4 gigs for boot10:03
nnAshton_K: then again, i like to keep just my latest kernel image, a fall back kernel (known to work), grub splash image, grub stages, and a busybox initrd for doing recovery10:03
nnShin_Gouk1: no you don't10:03
Shin_Gouk1but it tell me that the smallest sieze of installation would be 73GB ?10:04
Ashton_KI have a huge one, because I probably never will get around to deleting old kernels.10:04
Shin_Gouk1why cant i resize it...10:04
Ashton_KSelect "Manually edit partition table"10:04
Shin_Gouk1got it10:04
Shin_Gouk1now?10:04
Ashton_KEdit it...10:04
Shin_Gouk1I CANT10:05
Ashton_KDelete, resize, whatever.10:05
Ashton_Kclick on one, and choose to resize it.10:05
Shin_Gouk1it sonest have this option...10:05
Ashton_KOr create one.10:05
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prakashhello10:05
Ashton_KYo.10:05
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Ashton_KGoodbye?10:05
Ashton_KOy?10:05
Ashton_KHrm.10:05
TrixseyWhat is introduced/new in the new ubuntu distro?10:06
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Ashton_KYou mean 6.10 as compared to 6.0610:06
Ashton_K*?10:06
Shin_Gouk1ashtopn im in the manual edit10:06
Trixseyno10:06
TrixseyAshton_K, the one after 6.10 compared to 6.1010:06
Shin_Gouk1HOW do i delete the old partion? i thin its moutned... is this soem kind of write protection?10:06
Ashton_KDunno.10:06
Ashton_KIt's not out yet.10:06
Trixseyedgy vs feisty10:06
Trixseyit's in early alphas I think10:06
Ashton_KShin, click it, and select the button that says "Delete partition" when you hover your mouse over it.10:06
Shin_Gouk1no there s a LOCK symbol!10:07
Trixseythought it has a somewhat worked-out feature list though :o10:07
Trixseyrofl10:07
TrixseyShin_Gouk1, chmod?10:07
Shin_Gouk1how get i rid of the lock symbol!10:07
Trixseyor sudo?10:07
Trixseyyou get rid of it with chmod10:07
Shin_Gouk1chmod with which flags?10:07
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Shin_Gouk1WHAT flags?10:07
TrixseyShin_Gouk1, depends?10:07
hjmillsgd morning10:07
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Trixseyon who you want to give access to :p10:07
Shin_Gouk1TRixey depemds on whaT?10:07
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Ashton_KEarly morning shift has come in, they get to take over tech support.10:07
derek_Hi10:07
Ashton_K:P10:07
derek_Any good text-based email client?10:08
Ashton_KTricksey, probably mostly hardware support.10:08
Ashton_KI'd imagine that's what fiesty will have.10:08
hjmillswhat service do i need to restart to reload all the modules that are loaded on startup?10:08
Arrickanyone familiar with supybots here?10:08
hjmillsArrick: as in the spybot program on windows to get rid of spyware?10:08
Arrickno10:08
Arricksupybot10:08
Ashton_KMaybe a new series of kernels, and some new packagse.10:09
Arrickinfobots10:09
hjmillsArrick: oh - no - sorry10:09
Ashton_KLike this thing.10:09
Ashton_K!offtopic10:09
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!10:09
Ashton_KThat thing?10:09
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Arrickif I need help with windows, I'll go to my normal channel10:09
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Arrickyes like that thing10:09
hjmillsArrick: good point...10:09
Ashton_KSorry, no clue.10:09
Ashton_KIt's 4 AM, sleep time.10:09
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Arrickas a matter of fact Ubotu used to reside in my channel10:09
Shin_Gouk1i had do UNMOUNT it....10:09
hjmillsAshton_K: Night then :)10:10
Ashton_Kumount /media/paritionname10:10
exsHow do I install firefox 2.1 (the update I'm reffering to) thanks10:10
Ashton_KHopefully someone on the madwifi site will answer my ticket (1055 if you're curious)10:10
Ashton_KGoodnight10:10
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foobar^can't get my WLAN working10:10
foobar^:/10:10
checkmatewhat do you do with .package files?10:10
foobar^any tips on how to debug?10:10
mm2000_laptophello, i would like to install a command-based bittorrent-client... any idea of what i can use?10:11
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hjmillsfoobar^: see if it has a log and if so - check it?10:11
hjmillsmm2000_laptop: rtorrent serves me great10:11
foobar^uhm no :)10:11
hjmillsfoobar^: is there a way to make it log or it may use the system log10:11
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foobar^well it can be run in debug mode10:12
foobar^:)10:12
mm2000_laptophjmills: ok, do you install that by force?10:12
foobar^but that don't help me much ;p10:12
mm2000_laptophjmills: i am gettint dependencies...10:12
hjmillsmm2000_laptop: nope - i cant remember actually - let me take a look...10:12
hjmillsmm2000_laptop: i only installed it on dapper btw10:12
mm2000_laptoprunning dapper too10:12
mm2000_laptoptried with apt-get, but got some unsolvable dependencies10:13
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hjmillsmm2000_laptop: what deps?10:13
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CyberSlug Is there anyone here who is willing to help me remove a proxy (tinyproxy) from my machine?10:13
CyberSlugI have uninstalled it, but cannot connect to any http server (port 80)10:13
CyberSlugI REALLY need help10:13
mdiousMerry Christmas everyone...10:13
hjmillsCyberSlug: did you tell firefox etc to not use the proxy any more10:13
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hjmillsmdious: arnt you early? its only 9.14 on xmas eve morning here...10:14
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mdioushjmills:  I'm in Australia10:14
hjmillsmdious: oh ok - whats the time there?10:14
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mdioushjmills:  8:15pm...december 2410:15
mm2000_laptophjmills: first bittorrent (python-wxgtk2.6, python-twisted, python-psyco, python-zopeinterface) and rtorrent: libtorrent7 (>= 0.9.3)10:15
CyberSlughjmills, Yes - but the system seems to be intercepting at some lower level10:15
hjmillscan anybody help me reload the modules that are loaded on startup so i can rid myself of this icky ipv610:15
mm2000_laptophjmills: any idea what to do?10:15
hjmillsCyberSlug: have you restarted networking?10:15
hjmillsCyberSlug: "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"10:16
TrixseyKubuntu = Ubuntu with KDE? (Simple as that?)10:16
n1gkemdious: Good evening and merry Christmas.10:16
hjmillsmm2000_laptop: hmm - you just installing rtorrent or bittorrent as well?10:16
jurgenSame to you nlgke10:16
mdiousnlgke:  Thanks, same to you, Merry Christmas10:16
hjmillsTrixsey: basically - uses kde apps instead of gnome ones of course10:17
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mm2000_laptophjmills: rtorrent, but the dependency is bittorrent...10:17
hjmillsTrixsey: use the same repos and all10:17
Trixseyk10:17
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hjmillsmm2000_laptop: shouldnt be - rtorrent uses libtorrent which is a diff backend10:17
CyberSlughjmills, Multiple times :D10:17
jurgenanyone: I've installed XAMPP, but it says there's already another MySQL daemon running. Anyone here who could tell me how I could track that down and remove it?10:17
hjmillsCyberSlug: restarted the whole pc?10:17
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hjmillsjurgen: try "sudo /etc/init.d/mysqld stop"10:18
jurgenhjmills: command not found10:18
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exsHow do I get a hard-ware acclerated mouse?..10:19
Shin_Gouk1:O formating started, how long might it take i choosed resize for abut 10 GB...10:19
exspointer10:19
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jurgenhjmills:  ... I replaced mysqld by mysql and it seems to have stopped10:19
jurgenthanks10:19
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CyberSlughjmills, Yep.10:20
mm2000_laptophmm... i cant even upgrade! :@10:20
mm2000_laptopgettint the same dependencies again!10:20
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hjmillsjurgen: type "sudo /etc/init.d/mys" then press tab and if nothing comes up press it again10:20
Slartexs: hardware accelerated mouse? they make that?10:20
hjmillsmm2000_laptop: make sure yuo have disabled any non ubuntu repos and enabled multiverse and universe etc10:20
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jurgenhjmills: yeps, I found it. Thanks :)10:20
QwertyMnautilus burner is nice, it succeeded where my gnomebaker and k3b failed lol10:20
Flannelmm2000_laptop: you're trying to get a command line bittorrent client?  You already have one.  bt[tab] [tab]  will give you a list of your choices.  curses and headless.10:20
exsSlart:  ignore me.. i asked this question a long time ago and it's a driver problem, luckily someone posted a fix! http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25618710:21
Slartexs: oh.. alright then =)10:21
hjmillsexs: is there a bittorrent daemon i can run on my server10:21
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hjmillsis there a bittorrent daemon i can run on my server10:21
Slarthjmills: torrentflux runs on a webserver with php10:22
hjmillsSlart: im not currently running a web server :(10:22
Slarthjmills: you can install apache and edit the configs to use less memory etc..10:23
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mm2000_laptopfinally... had to do "apt-get -f install"  first...10:24
Slarthjmills: or perhaps there's another way.. some other light webserver with php support10:24
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CyberSlughjmills, Got it10:24
CyberSlughjmills, Thank you for your help10:24
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hjmillsSlart: ill look into it - thanks10:26
hjmillscyall10:26
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mdiousi'm off, take care everyone, Merry Christmas.10:27
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exs_How do you go about updating firefox 2.0 to 2.1 ? Thanks10:31
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srigreetings.10:32
ReTyPehow do i set the gnome screensaver in kde ?10:33
enyc *** Please let me know what is the right channel to ask for help on bugging bug -- https://launchpad.net/bugs/7009810:33
sriso I'm having trouble installing Edgy on a new motherboard I just got.10:33
enycerr debugging10:33
sriit's a Asus p5b-e10:33
enycsri: hrrm livecd not boot?10:34
ReTyPesri: do you have the latest bios ?10:34
srithe cdrom boots fine, but when I hit hte install it unpacks hte kenrel, gives me the screen... and the nhangs.10:34
sriI probably do not have the latest bios.10:34
srilivecd doesnt work10:34
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enycsri: i would indeed reccomend asus bios update... usually needs fdd with AFUDOS.EXE and the BIOS file ...10:34
sribut it does work on that motherboard?10:34
srifdd?10:35
enycsri: not sure.. try updanig the bios first10:35
sriokay, I can try to do that.10:35
sriit's worth a shot.10:35
enycsri: f/oppy drive -- thats how i normally flash bioses but there are other ways10:35
ReTyPesri:  do you know how to do it, it can destroy you motherboard, its not without any risk10:35
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enycsri: ive used EPROM programmer10:36
sriwell the bios has a section to flash your computer10:36
richardcI have an AMD Athlon 64 3800+ processor and in previous versions of ubuntu i used the linux-image-k7 kernel.  now, in 6.10, it says the package has been made obsolete by linux-image-generic.  can someone explain this to me?10:36
enycI have definitely had some weird hard-disk-error behaviour that was cures but asus amibios update10:36
sriso you hit "tools" and hten supposedly, you give the img file.10:36
sriI believe I've done it a couple imes before, on intel motherboards.10:36
enycsri some bioses have built-in flashreader that reads the bios imacge form floppydisk...  many you can just boot from bootable device which can boot dos with the bios file10:37
srienyc: nod.10:38
sriI think I have one of htose10:38
srithe asus bios is pretty fancy compared to others I've seen.10:38
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rcrookhas anyone ever got diablo 2 to work under wine?10:38
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enycsri: well they have fancy look... just nasnty amibios really ;-)10:38
erik_hello10:38
erik_I've a problem with the system clock in Ubuntu10:39
sriI'm eager to try out my conroe system :)10:39
erik_I installed Ubuntu with UTC as system time10:39
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erik_Afterward I updated my clock using ntp10:39
DeagsDoesLinuxhello how is everyone doing thsi evening10:39
erik_problem is that ntp seems to update my system clock with my local time10:40
enycI really _would_ like to be poinetd in the right direction for debugging help with non-universe packages....  -motu is not approprioate as this problem is a non-universe package -- https://launchpad.net/bugs/7009810:40
erik_how can i change this? I want to set the system clock to my local time10:40
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enycerik_: erm... NTP will update the clock with GMT/UTC.... the localtime limrary will telly ou what the local time is10:41
enycerik_: the unix clock is always supposed to be set to GMT... but mony programs / logfiles etc. normally show you the calculated localtime10:41
Flannelerik_: you can change your configuration to allow your hardware clock to be set to lcoal time (dualbooting with windows requires this)10:42
enycerik_: i.e. the clock does not need to be "changed" for daylight-savings10:42
enycFlannel: I thinsk that depends on version of win32..10:42
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exsi'm getting "cannot talk to klauncher".. anyone know why?.. Trying to use kopete and ktorrent.. neither properly work10:42
enycFlannel: I thought more recent win32/64 whatnot tends to use gwt hardware time? or is at least configurablo as such? maybe i'm wrong10:42
erik_I'm not dualbooting so there is no need to move away from GMT10:43
erik_I only want my time to be read correctly by MythTV10:43
Goshawhatthe... someone stole my nick again? >_>10:43
enycerik_: right... so what is the problem ?10:43
enycerik_: maybe MythTV does not have its timezone configured correctly10:43
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enycerik_: mythtv has its own timezone settings for listings... if this is wrong the listings are all screwed up10:43
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erik_I installed with GMT in the system clock. Afterward I told the system that I'm in Belgium (GMT+1)10:44
Flannelerik_: setting the hardware clock to GMT should be fine (that's how it's always on *nix).  You might need to set MythTV to know your correct timezone though10:44
erik_after a ntp update the 'time' tells me that it is one hour later than it really is.10:44
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erik_how can i find out what time the hardware clock is reading?10:44
Shin_Gouk1hello i have a grub question10:45
Shin_Gouk1what happens if i install linux without grub?10:45
Shin_Gouk1will ubuntu sitll start?10:45
enycerik_: at a console/terminal, do "date -u; date"  (without quote marks)10:45
FlannelShin_Gouk1: no.  You need some bootloader.10:45
FlannelShin_Gouk1: grub, or lilo, (there are some other alternatives)10:45
erik_time -u tells me that it's 10:47 UTC .... :-(10:45
Shin_Gouk1ok  IF i need .. can i put it onto the USB hard disk i installed ubuntu..?10:46
enycerik_: well thats a problem.10:46
erik_enyc: how can i change this?10:46
enycerik_: "sudo ntpdate -u pool.ntp.org" to update the time10:46
FlannelShin_Gouk1: you need to, yes.  And then whatever computers you're using needs to be able to boot from that USB device.  Or you'll need a bootdisk.10:46
enycerik_: (note that -u here is totoally different reason)10:46
nngrub > lilo10:47
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Shin_Gouk1ok no prob with which command i list my arddisk ? on terminal?10:47
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Shin_Gouk1my hds10:47
erik_enyc: thanks10:47
SurgeXgrub install /dev/hdaX10:47
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enycerik_: now is the date -u and date  times correct?10:47
erik_enyc: it is. Last time i tried ntpdate i used ntp.ubuntu.com . Is it possible that this server is sending a local time?10:48
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jermsieCould someone help me with information on uninstalling ubuntu and restoring a windows boot?10:48
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enycerik_: dont think so10:48
Flannelerik_: no.  It's sending UTC10:49
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enycerik_: ntp is all done in UTC afaik10:49
Shin_Gouk1how do i find the hdX alias to my USB drive?10:49
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erik_enyc: anyway. The time is correct now. Thnanks10:49
erik_Flannel: Thanks10:49
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SurgeXjermsie did you install GRUB on MBR?10:49
enycerik_: I would be tempted to reboot and check the time updates correctly10:49
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jermsiewell, i have a dual boot setup. Windows XP pro and made a partition for ubuntu, so i think GRUB installed with ubuntu10:50
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SurgeXdid you install ubuntu with the live CD?10:51
jermsieyep10:51
Cyrus25801hi, can anyone help me with installing a nvidia driver10:51
lasindiHi all, I've tried to install mediwiki on my machine, and I can go to http://localhost/mediawiki, but it will try and download a PHTML file (so it looks like it's not interpreting the PHP). Any ideas what I need to do to get it working?10:51
lasindi*mediawiki10:51
Flannellasindi: do you have php installed? and working with apache?10:51
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lepuxcyrus2580110:52
Cyrus25801hi lepux10:52
Cyrus25801could you help10:52
lasindiFlannel: I have PHP installed, but it doesn't appear to work (I made a test PHP page and it didn't run it).10:52
lepuxhi .. installing a nvidia driver via automatix2 is very easy .. search for automatix210:53
Flannellasindi: do you have libapache2-mod-php5 installed?10:53
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Cyrus25801lepux search programms of websites10:53
lasindiFlannel: I have libapache2-mod-php4 installed; I'll try php5 (since I have php5 installed)10:53
lepuxgo google n search for automatix210:54
Flannellasindi: yeah, you'll need that.10:54
Flannellepux, please don't recommend automatix.10:54
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Cyrus25801lepux - - thanx man10:54
nnAnyone know of a way to in software adjust the focus of my desktop? :P10:54
karakarayahbuntew10:54
lepuxhrhr but its easy way10:54
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nnsuch that when i forget my contacts, i can still use X?10:54
FlannelCyrus25801: automatix is a good way to be forced to reinstall10:54
lepuxnah10:54
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lasindiFlannel: by the way, I tried enabling backports, but it appears that the mediawiki package in there depends on mediawiki1.7 (but mediawiki1.7 isn't in there). Why is that?10:55
lepux.. :S i checked source . driver install works fine10:55
Flannel!worksforme | lepux10:55
ubotulepux: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.10:55
rainarrow_Hi all, could I ask about JRE 6 problem under Ubuntu here?10:55
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lepuxye ubotu thats right10:56
lepuxbut dont u think he should give it a try ?10:56
Flannellasindi: the backports?  no idea.  mediawiki is in universe though10:56
rainarrow_I upgrade my JDK from 5 to 6 today10:56
mm2000_laptopi want to start rtorrent to download a file at my server... I use ssh from the client, but when i log out rtorrent stops... ideas of how i can do?10:56
lasindiFlannel: Okay, I installed libapache2-mod-php5, but when I try installing mediawiki it wants to go back to php4 ... what should I do?10:57
rainarrow_and now if I try to javac HelloWorld.java, I keep getting "Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: HelloWorld/java" error10:57
rainarrow_but I could run NetBeans10:57
rainarrow_I just can't user javac under a terminal10:57
Cyrus25801Flannel - - i have downloaded the drivers from the nvidia website but when i run the "% make install" i get an error "no such job"10:57
Flannellasindi: does mediawiki require php4?  Ah, it does.  Then you'll need to install php4 with it.  not php5. (modphp4, and then php4, instead of 5)10:58
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FlannelCyrus25801: nvidia drivers are available in the repositories, no reason to install them manually10:58
Flannel!nvidia | Cyrus2580110:58
ubotuCyrus25801: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:58
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mm2000_laptopsomeone knows how to do?10:59
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racarrCyrus25801: No % requiree10:59
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MagicFabanyone in Pakistan ? I'd like to know if the local team there can supply Ubuntu CDs.11:00
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finnhow do I get svg support in gtk?11:00
nnnot pakistan, but i've flooded NYC and Charleston, WV with ubuntu CD's and put a -lot- of ubuntu stickers in public places ;)11:01
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lasindiFlannel: ok, I've installed it, but PHP still appears not to work. Is there something I need to do to the Apache configuration?11:01
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Flannellasindi: make sure the php module/configuration file is in /mods-enabled/ (that is /etc/apache2/mods-enabled)11:02
eilkerhi to all, what to do to see kernel source-code ?11:02
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SurgeX!gcc11:02
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)11:02
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racarreilker: Ubuntu kernel source or upstream kernel source?11:02
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^ANGELO^ciao11:03
racarreilker: Ubuntu kernel source has some patches11:03
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racarreilker: You can install linux-source-2.6.17 however and it will be in /usr/src/linux-2.6.1711:03
lasindiFlannel: it seems that only the php5.conf and php5.load are there; do I need to edit them and rename them as php4.conf and php4.load?11:03
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eilkerracarr: thank you11:03
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racarreilker: Linus Torvalds git tree is at: git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git linux-2.611:04
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eilker!git11:04
ubotugit: GNU Interactive Tools, a file browser/viewer and process viewer/killer. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.3.20-9 (edgy), package size 251 kB, installed size 964 kB11:04
racarreilker: You can run that after installing git-core to pull it all11:04
racarrThat's a different git11:04
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racarreilker: git-core in apt, rather than git11:04
Flannellasindi: no, they're not the ones you want.  you need php4.  purge libapache2-mod-php5 then install libapache2-mod-php4 (which is in universe)11:04
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eilkerracarr: thank you very much, got it11:06
racarreilker: Good luck11:06
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finnwhat do I need to do to get gtk to support svg ??11:07
SurgeX!Restrictedformats11:07
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:07
hjmills_how do i join 2 files together?11:07
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Flannelhjmills_: that depends on what kind of file they are, and how you want to join them11:07
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hjmills_Flannel: two .daa files (part one and two) - a dvd image split in half basically - i think thye just go back to back11:08
Seveashjmills_, cat file1 file2 > new_file11:08
SurgeXcan I do that with iso's?11:08
RainarrowCould I create a launcher that switch locale automatically before it start the program?11:08
SeveasRainarrow, sure11:09
hjmills_Seveas: thanks11:09
RainarrowHi Seveas , how do I do that?11:09
lasindiFlannel: ok I've purged the php5 files and installed libapache2-mod-php4, but there aren't any php4 files in /etc/apach2/mods-available. Can I get them from somewhere else?11:09
Seveasmake the launcher do this: LOCALE=nl_NL some_program ar1 arg211:09
Seveas(you get the idea ;))11:09
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wasynyt_can someone post theyre fstab ?11:10
Flannellasindi: -mod-php4 shouldve done that.  I've never used it myself. Let me take a look11:10
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wasynyt_or pastebin it11:10
RainarrowSeveas, How do I make a launcher to execute multiple commands?11:10
SeveasRainarrow, cmd1; cmd211:10
Shin_Gouk1which command shows me my freedisk space on the terminal11:10
SeveasShin_Gouk1, df -h11:10
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Shin_Gouk1sevas THX11:11
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Flannellasindi: are they in /mods-available/?11:11
nnpackagedeliverer: does your nickname mean 'street pharmacist'?11:11
shinobi2which apt do i need to play flash on youtube?11:11
aileancan anyone help me? I want to make a straight copy of a DVD which has copy protection on it. I own the copyright to this, so you are not helping me pirate something. my dad copied a VHS to a DVD for me and put protection on it by accident and I need to make copies as Christmas presents :(11:11
packagedeliverer... yes nn... absolutely11:12
RainarrowSeveas, I know I could do that in a terminal, but when I put that into a launcher I get an error11:12
Seveasshinobi2, flashplugin-nonfree from backports or seveas11:12
nnailean: k9dvd i believe works, perhaps others11:12
Flannellasindi: (they should be).  In which case you "a2enmod php4" or... something like that (php4 might be something a little different)11:12
RainarrowSeveas, oh I see11:12
SeveasRainarrow, what does the error say?11:12
nnpackagedeliverer: cool, i work for drug enforcement11:12
RainarrowSeveas, I could write a bash script, and create a launcher for that .sh11:12
aileandoes k9dvd break copy protection?11:12
Seveasailean, can't you copy from vhs again?11:12
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packagedelivererwith sarcasm , the thing is , you never know where it stops11:12
nnailean: i think it can DeCSS11:12
SeveasRainarrow, that'd work :)11:12
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aileanSeveas, no, my dad used a copier at the school where he works and it's shut for xmas now11:13
RainarrowSeveas, I wrote the following command: "locale=en_US.UTF-8";"/home/rainarrow/netbeans-5.5/bin/netbeans"11:13
shinobi2Seveas: thx11:13
Seveasailean, try decss then11:13
RainarrowSeveas, I also tried "locale=en_US.UTF-8;/home/rainarrow/netbeans-5.5/bin/netbeans"11:13
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aileannn, Seveas, thanks11:13
RainarrowSeveas, neither of them works11:13
nnnp11:13
SeveasRainarrow, that won't work11:13
ChousukeRainarrow: drop the ;11:13
Seveastry this: locale=en_US.UTF-8 /home/rainarrow/netbeans-5.5/bin/netbeans11:13
packagedelivererok, I've kinda fucked up my ubuntu, did a chown -hR in the root directory and now a regular not-root user can't su or sudo anymore11:14
Seveasyou don't need the ;11:14
aileanpackagedeliverer, watch the language11:14
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packagedeliverermyeah, sorry11:14
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RainarrowDetails: Failed to execute child process "locale=en_US.UTF-8 /home/rainarrow/netbeans-5.5/bin/netbeans" (No such file or directory)11:14
Seveaspackagedeliverer, very hard to recover from that, reinstall is easier11:14
racarr!pastebin11:14
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)11:14
ChousukeRainarrow: or LC_ALL=en_US.UTf-8  /home/rainarrow/netbeans-5.5/bin/netbeans11:14
packagedelivererheh, that's kinda out of the question... took me 2 days to configure it all11:14
Seveaspackagedeliverer, it'll take you more to recover from this11:15
OkinawaInstructoi am trying to set up an epson cx500 so i can scan.. printing is fine just cant get it to scan (xsane) anyone have suggestions?11:15
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packagedeliverergod11:15
packagedeliverersigh11:15
ChousukeRainarrow: and don't place it in quotes or anything11:15
xipietotecSeveas: do you know a program that will open .rpm archives for Ubuntu (not change them into .deb's like Alien, just open them like a normal archive)11:15
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Seveasxipietotec, file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde)11:15
racarrxipietotec: If you mean a gUI app ark11:15
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lasindiFlannel: I purged and reinstalled libapach2-mod-php4, and the files are there now. It appears to be working! Thank you veery much for the help.11:16
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madman91how do i back up11:16
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madman91ubotu: tell madman91 about backup11:16
RainarrowI tried LC_ALL=en_US.UTf-8  /home/rainarrow/netbeans-5.5/bin/netbeans11:16
xipietotecthanks! <is helping someone in #gnu11:17
Rainarrowand get a "Details: Failed to execute child process "LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8" (No such file or directory)"11:17
Rainarrowstill no luck11:17
SeveasRainarrow, meh, the stupid thing changed bhaviour11:17
SeveasRainarrow, write the 2-line shellscript :)11:17
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Rainarrowok, thanks Seveas and Chousuke11:17
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SeveasRainarrow, this will work as well in a launcher: sh -c "LC_ALL=en_US.UTf-8 /home/rainarrow/netbeans-5.5/bin/netbeans"11:18
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Seveasjust tested it ;)11:18
Link9618Where or How can I learn to use IPTables?11:18
anosai've installed gnomeradio on my systm but i can't hear any sound. when i do dmesg | grep radio, it says saa7130[0] : registered device radio0 ----> anyone?11:19
LynoureLink9618: you googled for iptables tutorial already?11:19
SeveasLink9618, oreilly has some nice books about it11:19
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Link9618thank you11:19
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RainarrowHi Seveas the "sh -c" trick works, thanks!11:20
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LynoureSome of the tutorial years ago were nice, maybe they are still around11:20
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Gunirushi11:20
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Acidictadpole`hi, im having problems with my resolution in ubuntu. Can i get a hand plz?11:20
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Seveas!resolution | Acidictadpole`11:20
ubotuAcidictadpole`: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto11:20
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cstextilesTrying to install Edubuntu 6.06 But it stops at 50% for about one hour at "Building LTSP chroot" Option11:20
Acidictadpole`i've restarted a few times already11:20
Acidictadpole`i've even reconfigured xserver-xorg11:21
Madpilotnight all. I'm afk for a few days, so Merry Christmas, Satisfactory Festivus, Happy New Year, and/or Bah Humbug to all!11:21
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RainarrowBut I've still got a problem: I could start Java applications such as NetBeans, but when I try to compile a Hello World program using javac,11:21
Seveasciao Madpilot !11:21
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Seveasdarn11:21
RainarrowI got the following error:11:21
Rainarrowrainarrow@MAGI:~$ javac HelloWorld.java11:21
RainarrowException in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: HelloWorld/java11:21
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SeveasRainarrow, read a java manual ;)11:21
enycI really _would_ like to be pointed in the right direction for debugging help with non-universe packages....  -motu is not approprioate as this problem is a non-universe package -- https://launchpad.net/bugs/7009811:21
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reversebladeRainarrow, whats up ?11:22
Seveasit's javac HelloWorld, not javac HelloWorld.java11:22
reversebladehehe11:22
cstextilesPlease paste the Helloworld.java code11:22
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AmaranthThis isn't #programming :)11:22
reversebladewhy bother with learning java anyway ?11:22
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nnreverseblade: because java's userful for mobile applications, for one thing11:23
reversebladeno11:23
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reversebladej2me sucks11:23
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nnreverseblade: especially with technologies such as Jazelle on the ARM core11:23
RainarrowHi Seveas, reverseblade, it's my fault11:23
XiXaQreverseblade, java is a very nice language.11:23
Rainarrowjavac HelloWorld works11:23
nnreverseblade: who said anything about ME?11:23
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zakRainarrow: definitely a topic for #java, anyway11:23
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Acidictadpole`Seveas: nothing on that page the bot gave me helped, since im not using fglrx.11:23
reversebladeXiXaQ, it was a revolution once, but thanks to sun, it killed java11:23
nnreverseblade: most phones run full blown java nowadays11:23
zakXiXaQ: and that's debatable :)11:24
anosahow to make tv/fm tuner works in my ubuntu? the tv works fine, but fm doesn't work11:24
Rainarrowzak, I see, sorry about that11:24
zakreverseblade: that's debatable too11:24
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reverseblademobile python is far better and it has a wide support too11:24
XiXaQreverseblade, why is it "better"?11:24
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reversebladethis is #ubuntu, I won't take this discussion any further in this channel11:25
Seveasreverseblade, \o/11:25
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codemonkey2i get this error on kde startup .. The process for the system protocol died unexpectedly.11:25
codemonkey2anyone know what could be causing it?11:25
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codemonkey2google searched gave me no answers so just wondering if anyone has had it before?11:25
Seveascodemonkey2, if noone knows, maybe #kubuntu knows it11:26
nnreverseblade: if you wanna argue semi-publicly #++c :)11:26
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zakcodemonkey2: try #kde too11:26
codemonkey2cheers11:26
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house#ubuntu11:28
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anosa!fm radio11:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fm radio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:29
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Gunirushi11:29
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Gunirusi need a program to upload a snapshot from my webcam every second and with an archive11:29
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anosa!tuner11:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tuner - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:29
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pucko-hello. I have a dpkg-problem. seems a package is broken ony my system. I'm trying to remove libgnomeui-common, but I get "/var/lib/dpkg/info/libgnomeui-common.postinst: 6: gconf-schemas: not found". and now I can't reinstall it nor remove it.11:30
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tom_hey guys i need to test my mic, what is a program (small) tat i can record onto11:34
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housetom, nuendo?11:35
tom_house:11:35
tom_house: ok cool11:35
houseare you talking about online editors?11:36
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sharkhello bello11:39
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gordonjcphohoho11:44
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gordonjcpdoes anyone know how to disable the GDM login in Ubuntu?11:44
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mhbHello. Can someone tell me what package I need in order to install GTK development files?11:45
gordonjcpmhb: there are a lot of them11:45
gordonjcphave you got build-essential?11:45
mhbgordonjcp: yep11:46
gordonjcpok11:46
gordonjcpwhat are you trying to build?11:46
mhbgtk-qt-engine11:46
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gordonjcpwhat happens when you say sudo apt-get build-dep gtk-qt-engine11:47
gordonjcp?11:47
gordonjcpthat should pull in all the dependencies11:48
mhbgordonjcp: thanks11:48
mhbgordonjcp: the name of the package I searched for was libgtk2.0-dev11:48
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gordonjcpmhb: sometimes the package names aren't quite what you'd expect11:49
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gordonjcpmhb: like, for some unknown reason, the program "jack-dssi-host" is provided by the package "dssi-host-jack"11:49
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sirkwhat does it mean when a track is written with a red font in easytag?11:52
sirkor when it has a blue backgroud11:52
sirknd color11:52
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pucko-how do I get my wireless card working with hostap? I have a prism2.5 card and I've loaded hostap and hostap_plx, but I don't get a wlan0 or anything in iwconfig11:52
cox377is there a command to like clean out all the old temp files etc?11:52
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TricoreI just installed Ubuntu 6.06 on a Thinkpad R60e but it doesn't find my wireless network card, any advice?11:55
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un_operateurcox377, the files within /tmp are purged on ever reboot - you can uninstall some unneeded packages -- other than that you'll have to manually clean your $HOME11:56
cox377un_operateur: alright cheers11:56
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evil_I dont seem to have the system calls manual installed..Where can I get them?11:56
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evil_Is there an ubuntu developers package?11:57
gordonjcpTricore: depends what kind of card you have11:57
un_operateurevil_, just what documentation are you after?11:57
cstextilesLTSP chroot bug at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/portmap/+bug/61668 is affecting my Edubuntu 6.06 install as I am unable to do that install how to clear that bug and start installing?11:57
evil_system calls11:57
evil_I did "man waitpid" and the manual doesn't exist11:58
TricoreThat's the problem, I'm not really sure. Although I believe it's some Atheros card11:58
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T1hey does anyone know of an rss reader for the gnome panel?11:59
zakT1: I LOVE PORN11:59
Gunirusi need a program to upload a snapshot from my webcam every second and with an archive11:59
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T1zak: well done, but do you know of an rss reaser for the panel?12:00
zakT1: I FUCK PENGUINS IN THE ANUS HOLE12:00
zakT1: no, sorry12:00
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T1Gunirus: cud you write a bash script?12:01
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GunirusT1: not for a webcam12:01
alecjw!language | zak12:01
ubotuzak: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.12:01
un_operateurT1, check yassr12:01
un_operateur!yassr12:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about yassr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:01
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j1p_alright, so i'm trying to set up a simple cron job for my parents who i converted to ubuntu after their windows pc crapped out, I wrote a quick bash script to update their computer, then made a crontab to run it once a week, how exactly do I have it run as root all the time?12:01
T1un_operateur: thanks mate ill give it a look12:02
alecjwj1p_: i think crons automatically run as root12:02
neo_put it in root's crontab j1p_12:02
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j1p_alright, so the fact that I can't login as root doesnt matter, and just use -u root on the crontab?12:02
gordonjcpso does anyone have any thoughts on disabling GDM logins?12:02
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gordonjcpbasically launch straight into a desktop12:03
un_operateurjlp_, sudo bash -- and that ought to put you in a root shell12:03
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RoC_MM_0wwhat's the command you use to install the crontab j1p_ ?12:03
j1p_un_operateur: thanks12:03
gordonjcpj1p_: or indeed, sudo su -12:03
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un_operateurgordonjcp, sudo su??  why not just sudo -i?12:04
tom_hey guys, i've got an ide drive in my machine, it has an old debian system on it. its showing up in gnome, but i cant open it. any idea why, or what i coulld ddo?12:04
tom_i think the fs is reiserfs12:04
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gordonjcpun_operateur: haven't tried sudo -i12:05
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RoC_MM_0wj1p_: it's better to use12:06
un_operateurgordonjcp, advocating sudo su is as good as enabling the root account which goes against what ubuntu stands for12:06
RoC_MM_0w"sudo su"..."sudo bash" doesn't set all environment variables correctly.12:06
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cstextile1LTSP chroot bug at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/portmap/+bug/61668 is affecting my Edubuntu 6.06 install as I am unable to do that install how to clear that bug from the ISO and start installing?12:06
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nnhmm i always passwd root account so that it's usable12:07
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RoC_MM_0wj1p_: put a crontab file in /root/ and make sure it's owned by the root user.  use "sudo su" if you need a root shell.  install it with "crontab /root/(your crontab filename)"12:07
un_operateurRoC_MM_0w, sudo bash doesnt change the env. vars.12:07
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j1p_RoC_MM_0w: yea, it's all set now, I just needed to know the "sudo su" part12:08
spamashello :)12:08
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tom_hi12:08
TripaXhi12:08
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spamasmaybe anybody know how much space ext3 axt2 and swap i need to install ubuntu? :] 12:08
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RoC_MM_0w5GB is enough spamas .12:09
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spamasRoC_MM_0w, 5gb for ext2 or swap? :] 12:10
un_operateurspamas,  100Mb for /boot (ext2) .. 2x(Amount of RAM) for swap .. 2GB for /tmp (ext3) and the rest for / (ext3)12:10
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derek_Hi12:10
derek_$ sudo ./check.sh12:10
derek_Password:12:10
derek_sudo: ./check.sh: command not found12:10
spamasun_operateur, tnx12:10
derek_wth?12:10
un_operateurderek_, chmod a+x ./chech.sh; sudo ./check.sh12:11
un_operateurderek_, or sudo sh ./check.sh12:11
RoC_MM_0wspamas: it will make the partitions for you12:11
spamas:)12:11
spamastnx i have installed gentoo but it's too hard for me :] 12:12
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derek_thanks un_operateur12:12
un_operateurderek_, yw, don't forget to set execute permissions for root if you use sudo12:13
derek_un_operateur, what does that mean?12:13
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un_operateurderek_,  sudo ./file.sh  will fail if root does not have the permissions to execute file.sh -- which is why you need to chmod a+x to give everyone (root indirectly) the permissions to execute it12:14
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surfbuddywhats the latest package for ubuntu ?12:15
surfbuddyis it 6.10 ?12:15
reversebladelatest version is 6.1012:15
un_operateursurfbuddy, officially yes12:15
derek_un_operateur, I did chmod a+x ..did it give root the required permissions?12:15
surfbuddyso what kernel version does it use ?12:16
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QwertyMsurfbuddy, am using 2.6.1712:16
derek_2.6.17-10-generic12:16
cstextile1LTSP chroot bug at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/portmap/+bug/61668 is affecting my Edubuntu 6.06 install as I am unable to do that install how to clear that bug from the ISO and start installing?12:16
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un_operateurderek_, chmod a+x gives everyone/world execute permissions (and root happens to be among the "everyone" category, therefore it is able to execute it too)12:17
philo23i'm wondering, what should my partition table look like?12:17
surfbuddyQwertyM, i dont really understand..in one of the offcial websites it says ubuntu 10.5 released today..12:17
surfbuddyhttp://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-Kubuntu-Edubuntu-10-5-all-out-today-10407.shtml12:17
QwertyM10.5 ?12:17
TricoreIs it possible to run applications like kstars in GNOME?12:17
POVaddctTricore: yes12:17
QwertyMArent ubuntu version numbers indictations for date|month ?12:17
un_operateursurfbuddy, that might be edubuntu not ubuntu/kubuntu12:17
TricoreCool :D12:18
QwertyMsurfbuddy, read the artile, its damn old The Ubuntu team is proud to announce Ubuntu 5.10.12:18
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RoC_MM_0wyes QwertyM .  7.04 is expected in (200)7.04(april)12:18
QwertyM10.5 | 5.1012:18
QwertyMyeah12:18
spamas81% of ubuntu downloaded :}12:18
surfbuddyQwertyM, lol12:18
QwertyM:)12:18
surfbuddyQwertyM, ppl can write anything12:19
QwertyMsurfbuddy, yeah, like Vista released a year ago :p12:19
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spamasMaybe anybody playing Eternal-lands ? :}12:19
un_operateurwhen in doubt go "canonical" (literally) :)12:19
QwertyMwhats that? Game for linux ? oO am interested12:20
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spamasyea12:20
spamasthat game for linux12:20
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QwertyMlink?12:20
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spamaswww.eternal-lands.com12:20
spamas:] 12:20
QwertyMbtw, is an edgy remastered CD on th way with OOo 2.1 ?12:20
erik_I would like to enable the TV-out on a Dell Latitude C600. Any ideas?12:20
spamask cya all ;] 12:21
noneeehello, does anyone know if this bug "https://launchpad.net/products/linux/+bug/29789" affects also kernel < 2.6.15?12:21
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un_operateur!mythtv | erik_12:21
ubotuerik_: MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV12:21
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erik_ubotu: I've mythtv installed. Now i need to connect the laptop to the tv...12:22
POVaddcterik_: if you have a ati gfx card in that notebook, you might try gatos.sf.net12:22
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un_operateurerik_, ubotu is a bot :) you might want to verify your configuration against those instructions in the wiki posted there12:23
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POVaddcterik_: but maybe code from the gatos project is already merged into xorg in ubuntu12:23
philo23when i try to install linux with my manualy edited partition table, i get this error from gparted, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38634/12:23
un_operateurerik_, do you know what kind of tv-out card that it?12:24
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erik_un_operateur: ati rage 2x I believe it to be12:24
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POVaddcterik_: i suggest reading the manpage of the ati video driver (man ati) and look for options to put into /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:25
khaledhello, how can i make a certain application start when my computer boot up?12:26
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POVaddcterik_: make a backup copy of your current xorg.conf before experimenting12:26
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rohanhow do i configure my X to go to 1280x800 ? windows can go upto that resolution, but ubuntu goes only till 1024x76812:26
stefg!fixres12:27
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto12:27
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khaledhello, how can i make a certain application start when my computer boot up?12:27
rohanstefg: i did read that12:27
rohanno help12:27
stefgrohan: so?12:27
rohanso ?12:27
XiXaQkhaled, after a user logs in?12:27
rohandidnt help12:27
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khaledyes12:28
philo23when i try to install linux with my manualy edited partition table, i get this error from gparted, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38634/12:28
stefg!doesn't work12:28
ubotuPlease elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)12:28
khaledXiXaQ, yes12:28
XiXaQkhaled, system > preferences > sessions.12:28
XiXaQkhaled, you have a tab there for startup programs.12:29
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khaledXiXaQ, thanks i got it12:29
exsI've successfully installed wine, but I don't know how to open an exe with it12:29
XiXaQexs, wine executable.exe12:29
XiXaQexs, you should be able to simply click the exe.12:30
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DankerHi12:30
stefgphilo23: gparted is actually very smart  in not letting you modify an already broken partition table...12:30
rohanstefg: well, this is an intel gma 950 card12:30
exsXiXaQ:  that's what I thought but it's not letting me12:30
rohani even tried using 915resolution12:30
XiXaQexs, then try running it from the terminal.12:30
noneeeexs, "wine file.exe" from the shell12:30
philo23stefg: i'm pretty sure it isnt broken12:30
rohanand, nowhere in the xorg.conf file is the resolution "1024x768" mentioned12:30
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DankerCould somebody say how to close/kill a certain connection (network connection to certain port)?12:30
rohanyet it uses that resolution12:30
XiXaQexs, it'll probably be fixed the next time you log in.12:31
exsok thanks12:31
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stefgphilo23: but gparted thinks that... i don't know what will make gparted change its mind12:31
un_operateurrohan, at a terminal type this command out -- gnome-display-properties12:31
rohanun_operateur: i dont use gnome12:32
philo23i'm trying to make it so i can dual boot windows and ubuntu on this machine12:32
rohanit is kubuntu12:32
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rohanun_operateur: i tried the ubuntu live cd too12:32
rohansame problem12:32
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stefgphilo23: that's a common scenario, and well supported by the installer12:32
philo23stefg: so what could be up?12:32
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POVaddctrohan: try running "sudo vbetool vbefp panelsize" manually to see if it detects the 1280x800 tft size right12:33
indianeAll greetings, I want will get acquainted to very full girl!12:33
matasonHappy hols :) What's the best approach for trouble-shooting total freeze ups with Ubuntu 6.06 LTS?12:33
rohanok12:33
RopechoborraI got a firewall called iptables.sh in /etc/init.d with +x permission.. But it wont start on booting ! :(12:33
gordonjcpone of the things I love about Ubuntu is how whenever anything goes wrong, it only takes a few minutes to reinstall from scratch12:33
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POVaddctrohan: if it doesn't, you are out of luck12:34
gordonjcpI'm on my fifth install today12:34
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stefgphilo23: gparted doesn't understand your part-table and refuses to do something on the drive. You could either check what's wrong with your partitioning, or use another tool to prepare the partitionsbefore the install12:34
un_operateurRopechoborra, sudo chmod a+x /etc/init.d/iptables.sh12:34
Ropechoborraun_operateur already done that12:34
rohanPOVaddct: and if it does ?12:34
TerminusRopechoborra: it has to be symlinked to one of the rc?.d directories. try reading up on update-rc.d =)12:34
un_operateurRopechoborra, a+x and not just +x ?? are you sure?12:34
indianeAll greetings, I want will get acquainted to very full girl12:34
Ropechoborraun_operateur yeap12:34
RopechoborraTelepath`pula rc.d ? do i have that directory?12:35
un_operateurRopechoborra, ahh, read what terminus just said12:35
TerminusRopechoborra: another alternative would be to just call the script from rc.local12:35
POVaddctrohan: then the 915resolution init script should patch the vesa bios on every boot, putting the 1280x800 resolution there so Xorg can find it12:35
un_operateurRopechoborra, sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/iptables.sh /etc/rc2.d/12:35
RopechoborraWhats that?? =|12:35
RopechoborraOk12:35
rohanPOVaddct: ok12:35
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Terminusun_operateur: errr... aren't there start priorities? straight symlinks would mess that up.12:35
Ropechoborraun_operateur with that should do it?12:35
POVaddctrohan: you installed 915resolution as a ubuntu package, right?12:35
un_operateurTerminus, Ropechoborra -- my bad my bad ...12:36
un_operateurRopechoborra, sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/iptables.sh /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm12:36
rohanPOVaddct: yes12:36
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TerminusRopechoborra: i do not recommend what un_operateur said because of the startup priorities. =)12:36
un_operateurRopechoborra, the latter should do it12:36
POVaddctrohan: okay. did you check vbetool ... already?12:36
Terminusun_operateur: do not replace gdm! =P12:36
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philo23stefg: what option should i choose that could do this manually?12:37
RopechoborraTerminus so i should use  sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/iptables.sh /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm ?12:37
philo23"use the largest continual free space"?12:37
un_operateurTerminus, bahh, forgive me -- i dunno whats happening to me today :)12:37
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philo23or will that give me hardly any space on my windows partition12:37
rohanPOVaddct: no, will do that when i get back home12:37
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Ropechoborraphilo23 use the not used space (the one without partition)12:37
POVaddctrohan: i see12:37
un_operateurRopechoborra, this one -- sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/iptables.sh /etc/rc2.d/S99iptables.sh12:37
stefgphilo23: i'd go for an 'alternate' (text-mode) install. have your partitons already created and set up, then only set the mountpoints during the installation12:38
dsasdoes going to an sftp address work for anyone else in nautilus?12:38
TerminusRopechoborra: sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/iptables.sh /etc/rc2.d/S13iptables.local should work.12:38
karakaraanyone know a window manager thats lighter than gnome? my laptop is struggling a little12:38
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philo23stefg: thats the problem, i'm trying to make the partitions and its saying them12:38
philo23that*12:38
TerminusRopechoborra: sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/iptables.sh /etc/rc2.d/S99iptables.local would be better. =)12:38
XiXaQphilo23, do you have free space on your disk?12:38
dsaskarakara: try xfce12:38
un_operateurkarakara, the xubuntu-desktop or even fluxbox12:38
Ropechoborralol12:38
RopechoborraI've just used all the commands12:39
stefgphilo23: are you on the Live-CD, or are you doing a text-mode install?12:39
Ropechoborrahahaha12:39
philo23Ropechoborra: thats all well and good, but i cant partition it, it gives me an error12:39
SlartHow stable is reiserfs vs ext3? advantages? disadvantages?12:39
TerminusRopechoborra: use only one. don't mess up everything.12:39
Slart!fs12:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:39
philo23XiXaQ: yes, around 90/100gb12:39
Slart!reiserfs12:39
ubotureiserfs is a journalling file system, in benchmarks it outperforms many others on I/O operations, but they take notoriously long to mount.12:39
RopechoborraTerminus too late =|12:39
XiXaQphilo23, unpartitioned?12:39
linuxero_hello12:39
un_operateurRopechoborra, you didnt do all those commands did you? :(12:39
Ropechoborra*to12:39
Ropechoborramost of them =(12:39
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philo23XiXaQ: i'm trying to partition it, but its giving me this error12:39
linuxero_can  I put 32 bif of colours in edgy?12:39
dsasSlart: There's not really that much to choose from.12:39
un_operateurRopechoborra, you need to correct a couple of mistakes12:39
TerminusRopechoborra: well, you can just remove the unneeded symlinks. and i hope you didn't replace gdm.12:39
philo23stefg: live cd12:39
XiXaQphilo23, free space on an ntfs partition is not free space on the harddisk.12:39
linuxero_32 bits of colors12:40
RopechoborraTerminus i did12:40
Terminus>_<12:40
Ropechoborra=(12:40
Slartdsas: huh?12:40
RopechoborraToo bad?12:40
un_operateurRopechoborra, sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/gdm /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm12:40
philo23XiXaQ: yes, i know, but i cant partition it, it wont let me12:40
Ropechoborrato*12:40
XiXaQphilo23, why?12:40
TerminusRopechoborra: do what un_operateur just said.12:40
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stefgphilo23: the live CD installer is less than stellar...  Try an alternate install... it's better and quicker12:40
philo23XiXaQ: error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38634/ i'm trying to find out why12:40
RopechoborraTerminus ready12:40
un_operateurRopechoborra,  and   sudo rm -vi  /etc/rc2.d/iptables.sh12:40
philo23stefg: will it setup the partitions?12:40
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RopechoborraReady12:41
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RopechoborraI got S13gdm in red! what is that?12:41
stefgyes... but your partion table *is* broken to some extent.... fix that first!12:41
philo23stefg: how12:41
XiXaQphilo23, that's weird. Very weird.12:41
un_operateurRopechoborra, how many files do you see when you do this -- ls -1 /etc/rc2.d/*iptables*12:41
Terminusrc.local would be the perfect place for these type of scripts actually...12:42
RopechoborraUhm12:42
Ropechoborralike 3012:42
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Terminusanyway, gotta reboot. i'm on windows tech support on christmas eve. =D12:42
Ropechoborranononono12:42
RopechoborraSorry12:42
un_operateurRopechoborra,  do an  ls -l S13gdm  should tell you more12:42
stefgphilo23: by uzsing a disk-tool of your choice... you mentioned you did some manual editing...12:42
Ropechoborrarope@rophierr:/etc/rc2.d$ ls -1 /etc/rc2.d/*iptables*12:42
Ropechoborra/etc/rc2.d/S13iptables.local12:42
philo23stefg: using gparted12:42
Ropechoborralrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 2006-12-24 08:40 S13gdm -> /etc/init.d/gdm12:43
Ropechoborraand S13gdm is in red12:43
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scribe..12:43
stefgphilo23: leave gparted and open a terminal... lets look at how the kernel sees your disk12:43
scribehello12:43
RopechoborraWhen the others are un blue.. green... something like that12:43
scribeanyone awake :)?12:43
philo23stefg: i'm not quite sure how to set it up though, i understand swap, but how much, i understand root, but how much and what type12:43
philo23stefg: ok12:43
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un_operateurRopechoborra,  errm, check to see if the file it points to exist -- ls -l /etc/init.d/gdm12:44
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Ropechoborraun_operateur dont12:44
gordonjcpscribe: I'd imagine so, since it's nearly lunchtime12:44
RopechoborraDoesnt exist12:44
Ropechoborras12:44
un_operateurRopechoborra, you using KDE?12:44
RopechoborraYeap12:44
scribe6 a.m. here12:44
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scribe:(12:44
stefgphilo type 'cat /proc/partitions' and 'sudo fdisk -l' to the term and maybe paste that to  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12:44
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scribeblah12:45
un_operateurRopechoborra, ok thats why :)  -- sudo rm /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm12:45
Ropechoborraready12:45
QwertyMscribe, what's you scribbling? ;)12:45
philo23stefg: first command: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38637/12:45
Ropechoborraun_operateur now should work?12:45
un_operateurRopechoborra, also verify if the KDM launch script exists -- ls -l /etc/rc2.d/?dm12:46
scribeblah, back, in the olden days of mIRC32 i wrote scripts..12:46
Ropechoborraun_operateur it doesnt12:46
un_operateurRopechoborra, also verify if the KDM launch script exists -- ls -l /etc/rc2.d/*dm  -- sorry12:46
Ropechoborra?dm ??12:46
Ropechoborraok12:46
scribeand like.. i dunno12:46
philo23stefg: second command: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38638/12:46
Ropechoborralrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2006-10-24 23:04 /etc/rc2.d/S13kdm -> ../init.d/kdm12:46
Ropechoborralrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 2006-10-13 18:13 /etc/rc2.d/S25mdadm -> ../init.d/mdadm12:46
scribesomehow i picked up scribe cause.. i wrote alot of nifty little scripts.. to do nifty little things12:46
Ropechoborra:)12:46
scribefservs and stuff.. so.. err yea.. it stuck.. now.. im scribe :D12:46
un_operateurRopechoborra, dont ever paste in the channel -- it floods :(12:47
RopechoborraOk :( just 2 lines12:47
un_operateurRopechoborra, apart from that, it's all good12:47
stefgphilo23: having an extended partition  without a logical one in it is unusual....12:47
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RopechoborraOk12:47
Ropechoborraun_operateur thanks!12:47
un_operateurRopechoborra, well, it'd be 2 lines now -- but 20 later12:47
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RopechoborraTerminus Thanks! :)12:47
philo23stefg: it should just be 100% ntfs12:47
un_operateurRopechoborra, yw12:47
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philo23stefg: because i just reinstall windows12:47
stefgphilo23: where do you want to install Ubuntu to?12:48
scribenow with awesome clients like xChat i dont have to write any scripts :)12:48
philo23stefg: that might be my ipod, i would like it to my hdd12:48
scribeand with easy to use easy to install easy to maintain OS's like debian and ubuntu (mainly the latter) i dont have to fiddle with windows :D12:48
scribeipod = fat32.12:49
philo23/dev/sda is my ipod12:49
stefgphilo23: where do you want to install Ubuntu to? what disk?12:49
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philo23hda1 i'm guessing12:49
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un_operateurphilo23, if you want a definitive answer --  sudo hdparm -i /dev/[sh] d?12:50
stefgok... so you have to remove hda2 first, then resize hda1 (your win/ntfs-drive) to leave around 5-10 GB space on the drive12:50
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rohanPOVaddct: can you please repeat that command ?12:51
POVaddctrohan: the vbetool command?12:51
rohanyes12:51
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POVaddctrohan: sudo vbetool vbefp panelsize12:51
philo23stefg: only 5/10gb?12:51
rohanPOVaddct: it displays only one line - 1280x80012:52
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POVaddctrohan: thats correct12:52
TerminusRopechoborra: you're welcome. un_operateur did all the work though. i'm just theoretical. =D12:52
rohangreat12:52
rohan:)12:52
rohanbut 915resolution - is there any guide on using it ?12:52
stefgphilo23: a standard ubuntu install expands to around 2.5 Gigs ... add as much space as you like.12:52
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POVaddctrohan: 915resolution is not meant to be used manually12:52
rohanthen ?12:53
POVaddctrohan: it has its own init script, which must run before X is started12:53
rohanjust install it and forget it ?12:53
philo23stefg: ok, now what12:53
rohanPOVaddct: i read the instrucions in /usr/share/doc and followed them12:53
un_operateurTerminus, thank goodness you caught that one out :) i really need to start using update-rc.d12:53
stefgphilo23: do you have unused space on the drive now?12:53
philo23yes12:53
POVaddctrohan: yes, the initscript symlink should be in your default runlevel dir12:53
stefgphilo23: than start the installation and see what the wizard will do with the space12:54
Terminusun_operateur: hahaha. all the canonical tools. ;)12:54
POVaddctrohan: i dont know what you did and i dont have access to a ubuntu system so i cant tell12:54
rohanPOVaddct: ok, i will remove and reinstall it12:54
philo23stefg: applying new partitions now12:54
rohanPOVaddct: i am doing remove --purge 915resolution now12:54
rohanand will then reinstall it12:55
rohangood enough /12:55
POVaddctrohan: okay12:55
philo23stefg: ok, so i just try the installer?12:55
stefgphilo23: yes :thumbsup:12:55
POVaddctrohan: btw, which ubuntu version are you using?12:55
rohanPOVaddct: did it .. now, /etc/init.d .... start then kdm restart12:55
rohanfine ?12:55
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philo23i pressed "use largest continual free space" and it just brought me back to the same screen with the HDD selected12:55
philo23is that right?12:55
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POVaddctrohan: i dont know if 915resolution can run when X is still running12:56
rohanok, i will stop X before doing it, then12:56
stefgphilo23: sorry, i install ubuntu in a different way, so i don't know the graphical installer too much12:56
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POVaddctrohan: yeah12:56
rohanfine, no X12:56
POVaddctrohan: now /etc/init.d/915resolution start12:57
philo23stefg: to do that i'll have to quit this, could you list the steps out so i can write them down?12:57
POVaddctrohan: and then /etc/init.d/kdm start12:57
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philo23stefg: one sec, i'll log into my other pc12:57
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rohanSUPER12:57
rohanit just worked12:57
POVaddctrohan: cool12:57
stefgphilo23: now that you have unused space on the drive you could also simply reboot the live-CD and start over....12:57
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rohannow, how do i ensure that it starts on every boot, before X12:58
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POVaddctrohan: it already does12:58
rohangreat12:58
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rohanbut the fonts are real ugly, in that resolution12:58
rohanalmost un-antialiased12:58
POVaddctrohan: what is your default runlevel?12:58
un_operateurPOVaddct, probably 212:59
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un_operateurmost likely to be 2 too12:59
POVaddctrohan: look in /etc/inittab the line with initdefault12:59
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philo23stefg: hey12:59
POVaddctrohan: still there?12:59
rohanyes12:59
rohanPOVaddct: 201:00
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rohansorry, i was not paying attention01:00
POVaddctrohan: okay, look at the output of: ls /etc/rc2.d/01:00
philo23stefg: so now i just restart my pc and run it in alternate mode?01:00
POVaddctrohan: make sure that 915resolution is listed before kdm01:00
nuxil_!repo01:01
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource01:01
stefgphilo23: 'alternate' is a different CD.... the CD's are either Desktop or Alternate, not both01:01
nuxil_!easysource01:01
raxiphey01:01
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic01:01
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rohanPOVaddct: it is01:01
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Death_Riderhey01:01
POVaddctrohan: good, so the resolution should also work after reboot01:01
Death_Rider:)01:01
rohanPOVaddct: ok01:02
rohananything i can do for the fonts ?01:02
Death_Rideri'm new to Linux, and Ubuntu, and i wanted to know, what SWAP is?01:02
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POVaddctrohan: dont know, i dont use kde01:02
philo23stefg: the dvd isnt :P01:02
BalachmarDoes anybody know how to use acpi wakeup?01:02
un_operateurDeath_Rider, SWAP or swap ??01:02
Death_Riderdunno :/01:02
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BalachmarMy bios is reset to some early time everytime I reboot01:02
stefgphilo23: ah... DVD.... good! Then go alternate, yes01:02
un_operateurDeath_Rider, whats this in regards to?01:02
philo23:P01:02
Death_Rideri've still got Windows and i want to find out as much as posible about linux01:02
raxip?01:02
rohanPOVaddct: ok01:03
rohanPOVaddct: any idea how do i turn autohinting on ?01:03
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Balachmar@Death_Rider SWAP is the same as a page file in windows01:03
Death_Riderwell what i know is that swap needs to be bigger then my ram01:03
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POVaddctrohan: somewhere in the kde control center i guess, but again, i dont use kde01:04
holycowDeath_Rider, roughly double of your ram.  in any case if you have a large hd say 40 gig plus  no harm in setting swap to be 2 gigs01:04
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rohanPOVaddct: ok, thanks a lot for the help with resolution ! :)01:04
holycowfor most dekstop users that is an acceptable balance01:04
Death_Rideranother question, should i keep windows or should i format over them?01:04
POVaddctrohan: yw01:04
rohanDeath_Rider: keep it, if you need it01:04
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nuxil_hehe easysource is realy nice01:04
holycowDeath_Rider, depends on your needs, the problem is that the installer will try to repartition your hd if windows is occupies all of the hd01:05
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holycowrepartitioning could become corrupt if say you have a power outage half way through01:05
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un_operateur. o 0 ( and fail miserable in most cases )01:05
holycowso you should always make sure you have windows backed up01:05
holycowyeah especially if your windows partition is ntfs01:05
holycowwe cannot realy guarantee a good repartition of an ntfs partition because ntfs is a proprietary, closed an dundocumented file format01:06
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holycowpeople are working on reverse engineering it but you know ms01:06
Death_Rideri have 2 HDDs, 1 is 150Gb and the other is 250Gb. The first one is divided to 50Gb for the OS and what's left for other stuff. Maybe i should format over the 50Gb, get rid of windows and stay with linux?01:06
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holycowrefusal to co-opoerate and all that01:06
un_operateurI'd run windows in vmware under linux, Death_Rider01:06
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nuxil_omg.. 77 upgradeble after i installed edgy01:06
holycowDeath_Rider, i would try it out and see what you like01:07
nuxil_:\01:07
holycowDeath_Rider, remember a couple of things:01:07
diskusimpossible to play windows games thru vmware :P01:07
holycowa) linux isn't windows01:07
un_operateurdiskus, really??01:07
holycowb) linux doesn't exist to replace windows01:07
holycowc) do what suits you best01:07
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diskusun_operateur: well as far as I know it doesn't have 3D support at all01:07
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nuxil_d) linux is better than linux01:07
Onore_e_Gloriahi01:07
nuxil_:P'01:07
nuxil_erm01:07
nnnuxil_: Eh?01:07
nuxil_windows01:07
holycowwe typically recommend give it a good solid try and see for your self01:07
nuxil_:P typo01:07
holycowwhen you are ready to completely switch to linux you will know it01:08
diskusun_operateur: but it all depends on what you are doing with the windows01:08
holycowits like puberty01:08
holycow:)01:08
un_operateurdiskus, thats odd -- if you have the right graphics drivers for linux installed, vmware shouldnt have a problem -- but again, i dont use vmware01:08
holycowhehehe01:08
holycowhehe01:08
holycowi just made that up01:08
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holycowits not a bad01:08
holycow:)01:08
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Death_Riderso i should keep windows in that 50 Gb, seperate 50 Gb (or how much?) more for linux, and install it there?01:08
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holycowDeath_Rider, to be perfectly honest, i would invest in removable trays for your hds01:09
un_operateurDeath_Rider, you need a couple of partitons for linux -- two at the very least01:09
holycowon one hd keep windows01:09
holycowon another linux01:09
diskusDeath_Rider: well I have 200GB on this workstation, and only 30GB is for Linux :P01:09
holycowswap them in and out as you require01:09
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holycowthats probably the safest and easiest way to learn without jumping too far into the deep end01:10
un_operateurDeath_Rider, Linux only needs as much as 10GB overall to be quite safe01:10
Death_Rider:)01:10
holycowhes right01:10
holycowwe have tons of free stuff but you will be hard pressed to find time to try it all01:10
Death_Ridersooooo, i should seperate ~20Gb and not format the remaining  HDDs?01:10
holycowDeath_Rider, is this your first time installing linux?01:11
Death_Rideryes and i don't know shit about linux :D01:11
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SurgeXI give linux 11GB only :P01:11
Death_Rideri've been with Win since 1995 :D01:11
holycowin that case please use a separate hd for linux, keeping an hd for windows will at least let you put that hd back in and get a machine up and running if you mess anything up01:11
holycowDeath_Rider, welcome to the dark side btw01:12
holycow-_-01:12
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Death_Rider=] 01:12
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XiXaQDeath_Rider, you can run Ubuntu in a vmware machine under windows until you get comfortable.01:12
SurgeXI switched to Linux this week it's great haven't used windows since 6days :P01:12
holycowPOVaddct, i'm guessing by your nick your a povray user? got any galleries online?01:12
XiXaQSurgeX, congratulations! :) Feels good, doesn't it?01:12
holycowSurgeX, wow cool01:13
holycowwelcome as well01:13
holycow:)01:13
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POVaddctholycow: yes. my gallery is a bit outdated though :)  http://chris.silmor.de/ray/POVImgs.html01:13
holycowhow do you like it?  and why did you switch if you don't mind me asking?01:13
holycowPOVaddct, sweet, checking :) and thankx!01:13
SurgeXI does!!01:13
JockeTFMerry christmas to you all and cya later.01:13
Death_Riderso i should leave the 50Gb and the 180Gb parts(same HDD) for Win, and format the other HDD(150Gb) for linux right?01:13
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holycowby JockeTF01:13
Slartis there a way to manage my fstab file using some kind of gnome applet? (Ubuntu 6.10)01:14
SurgeXWindows takes 6minutes to get to my desktop linux takes 20seconds!01:14
holycowDeath_Rider,  no you should use a separate hd for linux01:14
holycowDeath_Rider, you haveto be VERY careful with windows01:14
holycowmicrosoft built windows NOT to recognize any other os01:14
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Slartor some other way to mount a file system without having to edit fstab manually01:14
un_operateurDeath_Rider, if you can -- leave your windows partitions untouched and mess with what you find spare01:14
Death_Rider....01:14
holycowwhat that means is windows EXPECTS to be on the first partition on  your hd ... i.e. c drive01:14
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holycowDeath_Rider, second, you haveto have windows installed first, then install ubuntu and grub boot manager (automaticly done for you)01:15
zakDICK01:15
Death_Riderwell thats what i said, windows gets one full hdd, and linux gets the other one01:15
holycowin a second partition after what windows would think is c:01:15
un_operateurDeath_Rider, that works01:15
holycowDeath_Rider, ah i misread :) yes less chance of messing up your windows stuff01:16
un_operateurDeath_Rider, as long as you backup what's on the HDD that is to house linux01:16
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Death_Riderlet's say win is in C and D, i install linux in to E....01:16
Death_RiderC and D is one HDD, E is another01:16
holycowright01:16
holycowthats fine01:16
Death_Riderhow do i later launch linux instead of win?01:16
Death_Rideryou said win doesn't recognise other OS01:16
holycownow are you going to have drive a as master and drive b (linux) as slave permanently?01:16
BalachmarDoes anybody know how to use acpi wakeup?01:16
Death_Riderso it will launch automaticaly01:16
BalachmarMy bios is reset to some early time everytime I reboot01:16
holycowi will explain that in a bit if you answer my question first01:17
Death_Riderwell i don't know, as i said, i know nothing about linux01:17
holycowPOVaddct, cool use of povray btw :)01:17
FaithXthat's pretty much nonesense... grub can chainload window quite happily... it is the other way around that is a pain01:17
Death_Riderall my life i've been using win01:17
POVaddctholycow: thanks!01:17
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holycowDeath_Rider, well the thing because drive 1 (windows) is going to be master01:18
holycowthe linux installer will overwrite your bootloader on your drive101:18
holycowthis is fine01:18
Death_Ridernow, the HDD where Win is, is the Master while the other one is slave01:18
FaithXInstall win part 1 install linux wherever part2 part3 disk2 whatever01:18
holycowit will automagically find windows and give you menu options to startup windows or linux at boot01:18
Death_Riderohh01:18
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holycowbut you might want to consider buying removable trays01:18
holycowso what you do is physically swap drives right?01:19
holycowpull one out put another one in01:19
Death_Riderso linux will overwrite smth in Windows to give me a choice while booting up?01:19
holycowthat way, the drive with linux gets the bootloader installed on it with linux and it doesn't touch your windows drive01:19
holycowDeath_Rider, yes, just the bootloader01:19
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Death_Rideroh01:19
Death_Riderso i make Linux HDD Master right?01:19
holycowDeath_Rider, you can restore the bootloader for windows via windows restore disk01:19
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holycowDeath_Rider, if you had removable trays yep thats what you would do01:20
holycowpower down, pull out windows hd, put in linux hd, power up01:20
Acidictadpole`I'm trying to apt-get install some codecs so i can listen to mp3 and flac on ubuntu.  Is there a suggested library of codecs that I install?01:20
Death_Ridernice :P01:20
Death_Rideri'm starting to get it ;D01:20
holycowDeath_Rider, its a great way to learn, it really keeps you safe, although its a bit of work to set it up at first01:20
un_operateurBalachmar, your CMOS's battery might be at the end of its usable life01:20
holycowyou don't want to be opening up your case all the time or messing with weird bootloader stuff at first01:21
un_operateurholycow, why not just install linux on the slave?01:21
holycowun_operateur, because grub will overwrite bootsector on master where windows is01:21
SurgeXAcidtadpole01:21
Acidictadpole`SurgeX:01:21
holycowmy thought is that its safer to just have completely separate removable drives01:21
SurgeX!Restrictedformats01:21
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:21
holycowits GUARANTEED he will be reinstalling a lot01:22
holycowand trying A LOT of distros besides ubuntu as he's learning01:22
un_operateurholycow, and getting grub to add a windows option to it's menu is just a two minute job01:22
holycowkeeping his windows environment clean and separate imho is a very good idea01:22
SurgeXthat will let you play mp3s and all01:22
holycowun_operateur, sure, what happens when grub borks?01:22
holycowwhat happens if he swaps master and slave and the kernel can no longer  be found?01:22
holycowwhat if he borks grub menu?01:22
holycowetc.01:22
un_operateurholycow, then you use a windows disk and rewrite the mbr/bootloader01:22
holycowwell why suggest something like that dude?01:23
un_operateurholycow, or redo grub01:23
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holycowwhy not suggest to him something simple clean and easy01:23
holycowc'mon think of the user here01:23
holycowsure you and i can do that01:23
holycowwhy not make his experience safe and nice?01:23
un_operateurholycow, because removing trays and bays is not clean and easy01:23
holycowi beg to differ01:23
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holycowanything but removable trays / usb drives is asking for trouble for first time users01:24
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Naik0!sourcelist easy01:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sourcelist easy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:24
holycowfeel free to answer his questions when he comes back asking what happened to his windows partition or how to run him through grub commands01:24
Naik0!sourcelist01:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sourcelist - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:24
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mc44Naik0, !easysource?01:24
Naik0jepp thanks mc4401:24
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Naik0!easysource01:24
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic01:24
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un_operateurholycow, you make it sound like grub's no good at it's job when infact it's worked for another X million dual booters quite fine01:24
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holycowno i make it sound like i've gone through this a thousand times01:25
holycowand every time i have a newb setup dual boot i haveto work hard to fix their issues01:25
un_operateurholycow, and got it wrong?01:25
holycowi'm tired of bad advice01:25
holycowgive the user GOOD advice and both of us get to answer fun questions01:25
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holycownot spend 3/4s of a day working out what they borked in the first place01:25
Naik0how do i quit irssi01:25
Naik0without shutting down the term window01:26
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scribeanyone know how to repair laptop batteries :)?01:26
un_operateurholycow, we do recommend grub in here all the time -- there's even a wiki for it01:26
un_operateur!grub01:26
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto01:26
POVaddctNaik0: /quit01:26
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holycow*sigh*01:26
mc44scribe, send them back :)01:26
tiglionabbit2hey guys, the ruby package is old.  How does one go about getting a new package in the repositories?01:26
holycowyou didn't even read or consider what i thought i guess01:26
holycowbeautiful01:26
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scribeim more of a DiY'er01:26
scribenotice.. i run linux ;P01:26
rand112So Santa brought me a new computer with windows on it since I have been a good boy all year. Now each time I try to install Ubuntu (runs nicely from LiveCD) it hangs at 23% which is getting frustrating. Anyone who know what I should search for in google?01:26
mc44scribe, yeah but linux isnt liable to melt your hand :p01:27
wheelswitchrand112:  check the md5 checksum01:27
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wheelswitchof the cd01:27
philo23stefg: thanks, i got it all working.01:27
philo23stefg: *highfive*01:27
rand112wheelswitch: The CD has no error01:27
holycowrand112, also check your hardware configuration and if the various components are supported on your mobo01:27
scriberand112, hrmm, you reformating or resizing your partitions?01:27
stefgphilo23: good to hear :-)01:27
holycowrand112, particularly chipsets01:27
SurgeXcan anyone help me?if i move my D: drive to an extended partition will windows still read it as D:?01:27
philo23now to install the updates....01:27
scribealso, ive noticed if its a dell, make sure its DETECTED your HDD's in bios..01:27
holycowrand112, a lot of times its a hardware detection issue01:27
rand112holycow : Its suported01:27
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robert1anybody here who can help me with alsa and oss ?01:28
SlartHow do I get the UUID of a partition?01:28
rand112scribe : windows has its 10 gig, the rest 70 is up for grabs01:28
scriberand112, is it copying files?01:28
rand112scribe : yes01:28
scribehrmm, did you resize the partition?01:28
scribeor did you already have a 70gig partition available?01:28
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overrideri installed ubuntu, had windows on my d drive before. not c. now it doesnt show up in grub, any easy way to add windows back into the menu.lst ? my windows is now on hda5?01:29
un_operateurSlart, you can do this -- ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/01:29
rand112scribe : the 70 gig is available, (not belonging to the windows partition)01:29
holycowoverrider, your windows won't boot from d, windows expects to be on c btw :/01:29
scribehrmm, what kind of computer?01:29
Slartun_operateur: sweet, thanks01:29
Akkard_out of interest01:29
scribeand chipset...01:29
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overriderholycow, i installed it on d though, really. windows xp can boot from d01:30
rand112scribe " c2d p96501:30
holycowoverrider, lol, got me there then01:30
scribeholycow, yea, windows has a bootloader too buddy :)01:30
scribenot a dell :)?01:30
overriderit has now. prior to xp it had to be c01:30
holycowoverrider, yeah you can put it in manually, google up the proper line in menu.list and add it to the section at the bottom01:30
scribeDELL bios is very picky about ide devices.01:31
scribewhich, i can almost guarantee is the problem01:31
holycowscribbles, sure, just not a very good one01:31
scribetry a different cdrom/dvdrom drive..01:31
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POVaddctDELL bioses are crap01:31
scribePOVaddct, i kno :)01:31
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scribebut, finding cheap broken P4 DELL computers is so EASY01:31
scribeand also EASY TO FIX!01:31
holycowheh01:31
scribewhich means... ubuntu servers!01:31
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holycowi've considered dell a pointless excercise in frustration01:32
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scribe*shrug*01:32
scribeas long as they follow the atx form factor i like dells..01:32
scribeim hungry01:33
POVaddcti don't like dell notebooks. crappy bioses, crappy wifi chipsets (broadcom), exploding batteries... )01:33
scribei want CHRISTMAS DINNER01:33
Acidictadpole`SurgeX: is there a way to play .m3u playlists in rhythmbox?01:33
scribethe exploding batteries in my opinion are a plus01:33
holycowPOVaddct, absolutely random chipsets and motherboard configurations01:33
POVaddctscribe: hehe01:33
scribeyou pay for a laptop and you get fireworks for free..01:33
holycowjust overally horrible product01:33
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scribei have a generic dell notebook01:34
malvsuddenly with beryl, gnome doesn't seem so slow anymore01:34
scribeim typing on it now :D01:34
scribeberyl? make gnome... not slow?01:34
malvmakes it more responsive01:34
scribei dont understand, i thought beryl was a gfx addition?01:34
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holycowmalv, gpu accelerated desktops make everything seem crispy01:34
POVaddctholycow: the problem is that changing chipsets all the time is a tendency at almost all hardware manufacturers01:34
holycowPOVaddct, i know, i no longer purchase brand name desktops01:34
holycowwe are switching over to barebones laptops too01:35
malvscribe, given a decent videocard, it makes everything faster01:35
scribeoh.l...01:35
scribeinteresting..01:35
scribethey use the gpu proc or whatever..01:35
Acidictadpole`does anyone know how to run a .m3u playlist file in rhythmbox or the other player?01:35
holycowactually it doesn't make anything faster01:35
malvit's the reason macbooks seem so smooth01:35
scribeAcidictadpole`, if it has mp3's in it.. you need to install codecs.01:35
holycowit makes it 'feel' faster because you are drawing everything with the gpu01:35
malvwell, my windows slide across the desktop rather than chug01:35
Acidictadpole`scribe, i can play mp3's now01:35
holycowthe software still boots in the same amount of time and process data at the same rates01:35
Acidictadpole`scribe im listening to songs but i can't import the playlist01:36
POVaddctholycow: like, buy a d-link wifi cardbus card today which works perfectly thanks to a atheros chipset, buying the "same" card (same product name) six months later, it won't work because now they have a marvell chipset in there01:36
scribeAcidictadpole`, xfcemediaplayer just loads themm.01:36
scribehrmm try mplayer..01:36
holycowits an illusion but one that is most users love01:36
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scribeor xmms01:36
un_operateurAcidictadpole`, have you tried this at a command line -- rhythmbox /path/to/playlist.m3u ?01:36
holycowPOVaddct, absolutely i know!01:36
holycowits complete insanity01:36
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Acidictadpole`un_operateur: no i haven't01:36
holycowPOVaddct, i blame that on windows actually01:36
holycowheh :)01:36
wsjunioris there any way to install w32codecs on ubuntu64?01:36
putridpdebian01:37
scribeim hungry01:37
malvi had to download nvclock to lower the fan speed of my gpu which runs at max when an opengl program is being used01:37
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scribei want christmas food01:37
HollowGhost-hehe me2 :D01:37
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scribeonly thing i like about christmas, besides all the free stuff..01:38
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holycowscribe even01:38
HollowGhost-hehe ;)01:38
holycowenjoy :)01:38
FaithXyou always feel bloated on christmas day ... why is that?01:38
scribei havent slept..01:38
scribeits 6:30 a.m.01:38
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scribei was too busy.. entertaining guests.. then i had to burn DVD movies as christmas presents as the last minute rofl :D01:38
FaithXIt's christmas day in 50min here01:38
Acidictadpole`un_operateur: I get spammed with "(rhythmbox:6930): RhythmDB-WARNING **: attempt to use same location in multiple entry types01:39
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Acidictadpole`"01:39
diskusit's x-mas day here already01:39
POVaddctholycow: the real problem are those chipset manufacturers completely ignoring free operating systems, like broadcom and marvell. intel, ralink and atheros support free os's to some extent.01:39
phatlip_its christmas here in 5 minutes!!101:39
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phatlip_but everyone has gone to bed01:39
diskus14:40 min here :P01:39
diskus-min01:39
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HollowGhost-heeh nice Christmas presents scribe hehe :D01:39
phatlip_sorry, 9min.01:39
FaithXdiskus: where are you? NZ01:39
wsjuniorwhen i installed mplayer here on ubuntu64, apt installed the 32bit version, so i was wondering if i could install w32codecs on it.. does anybody know anything about that?01:39
scribeHollowGhost-, yea im cheap01:39
diskusFaithX: finland01:39
holycowPOVaddct, yep i know bro.  disgusting01:39
un_operateurAcidictadpole`,  I have a feeling the playlist isnt structured well/has formatting error or has duplicates01:40
FaithXdiskus: that's cheating you have in on Christmas eve01:40
scribei work at a movie gallery.. so i have access to ...lots of movies... so i just.. copy them.. but.. everbody likes movies ...right?... jackass2 day before release..01:40
malvis christmas on the 25th or 24th?01:40
Acidictadpole`un_operateur:  I'll take a look, i created it in winamp on windows and it works fine for rockbox01:40
diskusFaithX: what cheating?, it's just you are too slow with this christmas thing01:40
phatlip_25th01:40
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un_operateurAcidictadpole`, you could try a simple playlist first --- cd /path/to/mp3s/; ls -1 test.m3u; rhythmbox test.m3u01:40
scribegod i love XChat01:40
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POVaddctscribe: i like irssi :)01:40
Acidictadpole`un_operateur: are you familiar with the format of a .m3u?01:40
diskusFaithX: I'm already celebrating xmas, but ofcourse the real one is going to be tomorrow :P01:41
un_operateurAcidictadpole`, oops --- cd /path/to/mp3s/; ls -1 > test.m3u; rhythmbox test.m3u01:41
GACOformattazione ;_;01:41
FaithXTurkey... Yum...01:41
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un_operateurAcidictadpole`, well, kinda -- the ones i make are the simple ones01:41
un_operateurAcidictadpole`, why ask?01:41
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phatlip_where can you get music in the .ogg format?01:41
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Acidictadpole`#EXTM3U01:41
Acidictadpole`#EXTINF:268,Nightwish - Dark Chest of Wonders01:41
Acidictadpole`Nightwish\Once [Bonus Tracks] \01 Dark Chest of Wonders.mp301:41
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scribenice.. nightwish01:42
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scribeyou like Type O ?01:42
FaithXidiots are carrying on down our street and we need to get to sleeep because the kids will be up at the crack of dawn.01:42
un_operateurAcidictadpole`, use a pastebin if you wish to paste multiline posts01:42
POVaddctAcidictadpole`: we don't appreciate spamming the channel with this info. however, nice music :)01:42
Acidictadpole`it was just 3 lines01:42
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holycowFaithX, i presume ubuntu cd's for everyone from santa this holiday season?01:43
holycow-_-01:43
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un_operateurAcidictadpole`, still, if everyone did it at the same time, it'd be a disaster -- its not a good thing to do anyway01:43
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un_operateurAcidictadpole`, anyway, what about this playlist?01:43
FaithXholycow: now thats a thought.01:43
Acidictadpole`that is the format01:43
susamhello everyone!01:43
Acidictadpole`i was wondering if it looked ok01:43
obstfliegemoin moin01:43
Acidictadpole`and actually like a .m3u playlist01:44
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scribexchat has multiserver support01:44
scriberight?01:44
holycowi don't think so01:44
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holycowyou need separate instances of xchat for that01:44
scribenm01:44
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scribei found it..01:45
scribeno you dont..01:45
un_operateurAcidictadpole`, you might have to convert the backslashes to normal ones for them to work here on linux01:45
POVaddctAcidictadpole`: xmms can read m3u playlists, but not with dos/windows paths (drive letters and backslashes as separators)01:45
holycowreally?01:45
scribeopen a new servers tab01:45
scribe:D01:45
Acidictadpole`POVaddct: Ah, I see. Well I guess i could do a mass Find & Replace01:45
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holycowscribe, heh nice01:46
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un_operateurAcidictadpole`, yea backslashes dont work as i found out01:46
POVaddctit's been a while since i used xchat, but i think it has multiserver support01:46
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POVaddctirssi has it, of course :)01:46
segfault_hola, alguien que hable espaol???01:46
LjL!es | segfault_01:46
ubotusegfault_: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.01:46
segfault_que me pueda ayudar?01:46
segfault_ok .. i got it01:47
segfault_thanks01:47
Acidictadpole`un_operateur: Thanks, got another quick question about rhythmbox.. do you know if you can set up keyboard shortcuts01:47
un_operateurAcidictadpole`, I have no idea to be honest - i'm an xmms user, never tried anything else01:47
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segfault_Hello ... anyone can help me with Beryl and Edgy???? please??01:48
Acidictadpole`apt-get install xmms? :D01:48
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un_operateurAcidictadpole`, aye :d01:48
holycow!beryl01:48
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl01:48
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Acidictadpole`un_operateur: oh, and is there a place I can put things that I would like to start up on system boot?01:48
holycowsegfault_, thats probably a better place for that question01:48
POVaddctgotta go. have a nice x-mas!01:48
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un_operateurAcidictadpole`, errm .. yea, i think you need -- gnome-session-manager01:48
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phatlip_the time is 00:0001:49
holycowlater POVaddct01:49
phatlip_merry fucking christmas!01:49
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un_operateurAcidictadpole`, again, not a gnome user so that was just a jab in the dark01:49
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Acidictadpole`i still need to spend xmas eve with my crazy family01:49
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Acidictadpole`un_operateur: thanks for jabbing :P01:49
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un_operateurAcidictadpole`, np :) but does it work tho?01:49
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Acidictadpole`iunno, haven't got it yet01:50
Acidictadpole`couldn't find the package :P01:50
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un_operateur!xmms01:50
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs01:50
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un_operateurAcidictadpole`, eh, it's in the main repository -- you sure you got your repo list lined up right?01:51
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DarthLappyphatlip_, Aren't you about 10 minutes early?01:51
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le_chat_calerc.mirc.fr01:51
un_operateurphatlip_ got slapped!01:52
Acidictadpole`un_operateur: i dont know tbh01:52
un_operateurAcidictadpole`, tbh?01:52
Acidictadpole`un_operateur: to be honest01:52
phatlip_DarthLappy: no, time is 00:04 now01:53
phatlip_i'm in sydney.01:53
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DarthLappyphatlip_, Canberra and it's 5 to here...01:53
phatlip_yeah, family friendyl channel huh?01:53
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un_operateurAcidictadpole`, running edgy?01:53
maurohi01:54
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Acidictadpole`un_operateur: yes01:54
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exshi guys, how do I configure VLC to use direct rendeirng (e..g using X11) ?01:54
un_operateurAcidictadpole`, make sure your /etc/apt/sources.list has this -- http://pastebin.ca/29085401:54
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aric_cshello everyone01:55
mc44!hi | aric_cs01:55
ubotuaric_cs: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!01:55
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un_operateurexs, does your card support direct rendering? check -- glxinfo  | grep -i rend01:55
aric_csthanks01:55
Acidictadpole`un_operateur: everything else has edgy main or edgy all next to it.. what do i need after http://pastebin.ca/29085401:55
exsun_operateur:  well, I know i've had to do this before and it has worked01:56
aric_csis it normal to not be able to see your own nick in chat?01:56
aric_csi'm new...01:56
exsun_operateur:  I've just forgotten how to do it01:56
exsaric_cs:  yes01:56
aric_csalright01:56
mauroupgraded to edgy and want my dapper terminal font back01:56
un_operateurexs, well, i was just going to say -- if the graphics card does it i dont see why VLC has a problem01:56
un_operateurAcidictadpole`, i'm not sure i follow you there -- come again please01:57
exsun_operateur:  because I haven't told it to use it yet, I don't know how (forgot)01:57
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mauroupgraded to edgy and want my dapper terminal font back01:58
Acidictadpole`un_operateur: Every other entry in the repository has an additional argument after the url. like "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted multiverse universe"01:58
Acidictadpole`is there one that should go after01:58
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un_operateurexs, I'm guessing VLC needs to be build with that capability -- http://www.videolan.org/doc/vlc-user-guide/en/ch02.html01:58
un_operateurbuilt*01:58
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mauroupgraded to edgy and want my dapper terminal font back01:58
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Acidictadpole`should go after:  http://pastebin.ca/29085401:58
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exsun_operateur:  no it doesn't have to be built. Last time I asked about this it was a simple case of setting a prefrence01:59
un_operateurAcidictadpole`, if i were you i'd replace all the edgy lines you have with these -- these ensure that all the repos are added in01:59
domannahi. which linux has best integration with wine?01:59
SurgeXLinux XP Home Edition01:59
domannaSurgeX: i ask for real01:59
SurgeXLinux XP Home Edition I mean it02:00
holycowSurgeX, rofl02:00
holycowthats hillarious02:00
Acidictadpole`whats the command i need to do to "reload" the repository from command line02:00
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mc44Acidictadpole`, sudo apt-get upate?02:00
mc44Acidictadpole`, sudo apt-get updadte?02:00
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SurgeXthere is a free version and paid http://www.linux-xp.com/02:00
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mc44Acidictadpole`, gah update I mean02:01
aric_cslinux XP....that should be illegal02:01
mauroI don't like the terminal font in Edgy02:01
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exsVLC > settings > output modules > X11 video output. There, I found out02:01
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SurgeXits not Athlon XP is not?02:01
adam0509hello, how to get a list of modules that I can load with "modprobe" plz ? :)02:01
holycowSurgeX,02:01
holycowwow what an abomination that is02:01
SurgeXXP is not a trademark02:01
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aric_csSurgeX: I'm not talking trademarks, i'm talking ethics :)02:02
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ryanakcais python on the live CD?02:02
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SurgeXO ok02:02
un_operateurryanakca, should be -- the GUI depends on it02:02
domannawhich linux is most windows-like?02:03
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un_operateurdomanna, linspire probably02:03
holycowno such thing really domanna02:03
holycowlinux is not windows and never will be02:03
ryanakcaun_operateur: yep, distrowatch confirms that... 2.4.4...02:03
SurgeXFreespire is nice02:03
pvt_harvdomanna: or opensuse02:03
holycowanything that pretends to be windows fails because you cannot copy it 100%02:03
aric_csdomanna: If you want the most windows like experience, just run windows :)02:03
SurgeXlol02:04
holycowyeah thats pretty much it righ there02:04
un_operateurryanakca, every distro that has any form of GUI nowadays is bound to have python -- it just seems to be universally used in that respect02:04
pvt_harvdomanna: u might want to ask which linux is mac os x - like02:04
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Acidictadpole`what's the package i need to install to get mouse gestures?02:04
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aric_csI'm loving this whole IRC experience02:05
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pvt_harvey why cant i screen-capture my ubuntu desktop with the menus open? want to make ubuntu presentations for my students u know02:05
aric_csI've been deprived using yahoo all those years02:05
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SurgeXcan anyone tell me why is windows slow? :P02:06
aric_cshaha02:06
pvt_harvbecause gates' brain cells are slow lol02:07
neuratixSurgeX: no, i never figured that out myself02:07
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ryanakcaun_operateur: yeah02:07
sirk-Hello, I can connect to a WEP encrypted wifi network with the network devices dialog in gnome but not with the network manager... what could be the problem for that?02:08
pvt_harvwhere can we download automatix?02:08
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hjmillshi - i can see totem has an option to output to a tv but its greyed out - does anybody know how I can enable it?02:08
mc44!automatix | pvt_harv02:08
ubotupvt_harv: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe02:08
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pvt_harvubotu: okies, maybe that's the reason why the automatix website is down for days already... tried easyubuntu though, and i like it02:09
eztki have ubuntu edgy, with athlon xp CPU. i tried to do this sudo apt-get install linux-k7 - it still doesnt give me the k7 flavour of the kernel02:09
eztkwhat am i doing wrong?02:09
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domannawindows is cheap02:10
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T1domanna: ha02:10
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pvt_harvdomanna: what?02:10
hjmillsdomanna: linux is free02:10
eztkdomanna trolling?02:10
domannalinux is not free. is costs time02:10
eztkyou're wasting my time02:10
surfbuddyi am trying to install ubuntu for the first time on a external USB hard disk. ( i have no space left on my internal )02:10
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T1domanna: yea all of 15 mins to install02:10
MilkyDo products like these work on ubuntu? http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=2225,CONTENTID=906902:11
surfbuddybut it doesnt recognise the sda02:11
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eztkso anyone know how to implement a k7 kernel for ubuntu edgy? sudo apt-get install linux-k7 << doesnt work02:11
mc44eztk, in edgy there is no k7 kernel02:11
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eztkmc44: oh02:11
hjmillsdomanna: so does windows - i tried setting up my pc on windows and it took a lot longer than it took me to set up linux but ymmv02:11
mc44!generic | eztk02:11
karakaradownload + learning takes 15 mins? shwoarsome02:11
ubotueztk: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)02:11
T1btw, whats the advantage of using the k7 kernel?02:11
eztkthank you mc4402:11
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mc44eztk, no prblem02:11
eztkt1: saw some ubuntu tweaks page claiming it will give some slight improvement on an athlon processor02:12
surfbuddyi mean there is no information about /dev/sda when i reach the partition hardware detect during installation !!!02:12
T1karakara: never heard of shipit02:12
eztki suppose i was on a roll after experiencing GREAT improvement with the athlon version of SwiftFox02:12
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T1eztk: anything significant?02:12
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eztkt1: a webpage rendering test website gave 10 seconds result with firefox.. with swiftfox it went down to 5 seconds02:13
karakarastill requires time *shrug*02:13
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eztkt1: pages load very snappily now02:13
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T1ezkt: o right kool02:13
eztkt1: all extensions work like fasterfox02:13
karakaraanyway i hate entering into win/*nux debates02:13
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karakaraso... pie!02:13
aric_csConkeror the only browser i'll ever use 8-)02:13
T1eztk: might have to give it a go02:13
soldierboylist02:14
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sltgrooveufff... me sometimes overloaded with all kind of browsers02:15
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T1i just stick with trusty firefox, its not perfect, but its friendly enough :)02:16
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aric_csHey how do I list the people in the channel?02:16
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Gosha~Merry Christmas~02:17
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eztkt1; swiftfox is exactly the same as firefox02:17
pvt_harvhas anyone tested ubuntu christmas edition from ubuntusoftware.info?02:17
aric_csGosha: It's not Christmas here yet but...Merry Christmas eve!02:17
eztkt1: just coded differently to suit your CPU02:17
pvt_harvwants to give them as DVD xmas presents but want to make sure that they work02:18
aric_cspvt_harv: Awesome idea02:18
pvt_harvaric_cs: its gonna be christmas in southeast asia in two hours... nice02:18
pvt_harvaric_cs: so have u tried the christmas edition?02:19
aric_cspvt_harv: Na, I don't really even run Ubuntu hehe02:19
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pvt_harvaric_cs: hahaha!02:19
sltgrooveI like the fatest gecko- SeaMonkey with Multizilla02:19
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spjeje02:22
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c1ruhi all people02:22
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khaledhow to install rpm package on ubutnu?02:23
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un_operateurkhaled, you should try and find a debian package first02:24
aric_cshi c1ru02:24
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c1ruhi aric_cs02:24
c1ruapologize about my english, this is my problem:02:24
nolimitsoyamerry christmas everyone! :)02:24
c1rui want to know, what can i do for run more fast quake4 on my ubuntu02:24
aric_csc1ru: No worries02:24
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c1ruthey are working too slow, and in windows run very fine02:24
un_operateurkhaled, installing .rpm's is not ideal - they aren't bound to work well -- but if you really do want to install them -- use alien02:24
nolimitsoyac1ru, install the proper drivers02:25
ferret_I have a USB to EIDE interface that I am using to connect my laptop to a drive from my former workstation.  It shows up in /media/usbdisk, but is apparently read-only.  I need to write to this drive, and sudo chmod and chown do not appear to have any effect.02:25
c1rui have installed nvidia drivers on ubuntu, and nvidia-glx, but i dont know what more can i do02:25
un_operateurmerry christmas , nolimitsoya (even tho it's still christmas eve here) :)02:25
c1ruferret_, your usb memory dont have a button for read only?02:25
nolimitsoyac1ru, did you enable it? run 'sudo nvidia-glx-config enable' from a console02:25
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aric_csc1ru: Did you enable them in xorg.conf?02:25
rcrookanyone ever got a usb video grabber working in ubuntu?02:25
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zzzerotimehi02:26
nolimitsoyaun_operateur, well, the same is true here, but we crazy swedes celebrate one day early :)02:26
khaledun_operateur, i want to install openOffice 2.1, i can't find it in deb package?02:26
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nolimitsoyakhaled, sudo apt-get install openoffice?02:26
c1ruyes aric_cs02:26
khalednolimitsoya, 2.1?02:26
nolimitsoyakhaled, if that version is too old, try the backports repo02:26
un_operateurnolimitsoya, we brits start sometime in late october :)02:26
nolimitsoya!backports02:26
ubotuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports02:26
ferret_clru:  This isn't memory, it's a ATA/EIDE drive interface.   The drive is owned by root, and set 770.02:26
zzzerotimeI am intending to record tv (analog) with ubuntu 6.10, and my tv card saa7134, what program should I use for this purpose? I have googled a lot, and I am a bit confused02:27
mc44khaled, I do not believe it has been packaged yet02:27
c1rusorry ferret_02:27
zzzerotimeHelp wold be very appreciated02:27
un_operateurkhaled, if you install openoffice.org apt will try and install the highest revision for you02:27
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sltgroovePackage: openoffice.org (2.0.4.dfsg.2-2)02:27
sltgroove@debian02:27
nolimitsoyakhaled, is there some good reason for wanting the latest version - some new killer must have feature?02:27
c1ruaric_cs, i have it enable, and if i use glxgears i have: 88378 frames in 5.0 seconds = 17675.438 FPS02:27
c1ru but quake4 works in ultra quality 1280 very very fine at windows, but in ubuntu i have to set 1024 and only high quality and with lagging02:27
jengc0ilnothlit: hi02:28
jengc0ilnothlit: jengc0il@myUbuntu-b0x:~$ sudo -i02:28
jengc0ilsudo: unable to lookup myUbuntu-b0x via gethostbyname()02:28
aric_csc1ru: hrm02:28
un_operateuropenoffice,org 2.1-1ubuntu @ feisty/main02:28
c1ruwhat?02:28
tulgaI have finger readers in windows. then I want connect my ubuntu server's specified folder by finger print. howto configure server? any idea? please help me02:28
jengc0ilnothlit: any idea02:28
aric_csc1ru: Well, i'm not very knowledgable except the basics, dunno what to tell you sorry02:28
khalednolimitsoya, not really i just want to try it, i didn't know it is a big deal!02:28
c1ruthx aric_cs ^^02:28
un_operateurkhaled, you on edgy?02:28
c1rui remember when i install quake3 on my ubuntu and works x2, ubuntu > windows02:29
Toma-c1ru: what colour depth are you using? and what sound quality?02:29
c1rubut, with quake4 windows >ubuntu02:29
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nolimitsoyakhaled, it isnt. :) i just want to point out that using bleeding edgy software for the sake if it is bound to break sometime. :) best keep to the (reasonably) well tested versions in the repos02:29
aric_csc1ru: that sucks02:29
c1ruthe same in windows to02:29
c1ruToma-,02:29
khaledun_operateur, yea02:29
aric_csc1ru: ever tried tremulous?02:29
c1rutremulous?02:29
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jengc0ilun_operateur: jengc0il@myUbuntu-b0x:~$ sudo -i02:29
jengc0ilsudo: unable to lookup myUbuntu-b0x via gethostbyname()02:29
c1ruis another game?02:29
nolimitsoyakhaled, that is, unless there is some new feature/bugfix that is a real must have...02:29
aric_csc1ru:  yeah it's a standalone quake mod02:30
aric_csc1ru: awesome game02:30
un_operateurkhaled, edgy officially only supports 2.0.402:30
c1rui dont know, is cool?02:30
aric_csc1ru: I love it02:30
hjmillshi - i can see totem has an option to output to a tv but its greyed out - does anybody know how I can enable it?02:30
fdovingjengc0il: you'll need to add myUbuntu-b0x to /etc/hosts , preferably replace the old hostname with the new one.02:30
aric_csc1ru: It has an aliens vs humans theme02:30
khaledun_operateur, ok thx02:30
nolimitsoyac1ru, could you try the drivers from the nvidia site, perhaps? they might be newer, and contain some fixes and performace benefits02:30
un_operateurjengc0il, try this -- ping myUbuntu-b0x02:30
khalednolimitsoya, thx for the good advise02:30
zzzerotimeun_operateur, do you know what program to use to record analog tv?02:30
un_operateurkhaled, if you feel brave you can download the 2.1 OO from the ubuntu servers02:31
un_operateurkhaled, but there'll be no guarantee they'll work and they're likely to break things02:31
aric_csHey, anyone happen to know how to change the color of hilight when someone uses my nick in message?02:31
un_operateurzzzerotime, errm, dunno --- mythtv maybe?02:31
jengc0ilun_operateur: jengc0il@myUbuntu-b0x:~$ ping myUbuntu-b0x02:31
jengc0ilping: unknown host myUbuntu-b0x02:31
aric_csIt's yellow right now, and I can't read it very well02:31
un_operateurjengc0il, what does this say -- hostname02:31
zzzerotimeun_operateur, I tried to install it, but I think it will record just dvb02:32
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zzzerotimeI am a bit confused02:32
c1rui have tested the nvidia drivers from oficial site nolimitsoya02:32
un_operateurzzzerotime, i wouldnt know -- multimedia isnt one of my fortes02:32
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WnG88hey all02:32
c1ruand same thing02:32
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zzzerotimeun_operateur,  is there any one that you know who could help me out?02:33
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IntelligitimateI downloaded an iso off the internet, and it won't let me write it to a DVD. It is saying "not a valid disk image".02:33
IntelligitimateIt won't open with archive manager either, it says it is not a iso9660 format.02:33
un_operateurzzzerotime, errm, google suggest -- try him out at http://labs.google.com/suggest :)02:33
nolimitsoyaIntelligitimate, hash it. itsmostlikely a dead download02:33
zzzerotimehahahaha02:33
zzzerotimeok un_operateur02:34
zzzerotimethx anyway02:34
ferret_I have a USB to EIDE interface that I am using to connect my laptop to a drive from my former workstation.  It shows up in /media/usbdisk, but is apparently read-only.  I need to write to this drive, and sudo chmod and chown do not appear to have any effect.02:34
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IntelligitimateHow do I tell if it is bad or not?02:34
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nolimitsoyaferret_, are you using feisty?02:34
un_operateurzzzerotime, hope i didnt come across as rude -- but you know -- to google is sometimes to be quicker02:34
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ferret_nolimitsoya: No, I'm on Edgy.02:34
WnG88anyone have any experience installing on an IBM thinkpad T42? i've been reading what i can find, but wouldn't mind getting a personal opinion before i nuke the laptop02:34
un_operateurferret_, did you plug the disk in when Edgy was already booted??02:35
jengc0ilun_operateur: jengc0il@myUbuntu-b0x:~$ hostname02:35
jengc0ilmyUbuntu-b0x02:35
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Behiis JDK 5 available in Kubuntu 6.10 reps?02:35
jengc0ilhow to give sudo permission02:35
ferret_un_operateur:  Yes, this laptop has been booted several times since this disk was first connected.02:35
nolimitsoyaferret_, is it set in fstab, and if so, with what mount options? is it an ntfs fs mount, or an ftp?02:36
jengc0ilnothlit: hi there02:36
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c1ruY_Y02:36
un_operateurjengc0il, check your  /etc/hostname and  make sure an entry for the name exists in /etc/hosts02:36
ferret_ferret@ubuntu:~$ cat /etc/fstab02:36
ferret_# /etc/fstab: static file system information.02:36
ferret_#02:36
ferret_# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>02:36
ferret_proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       002:36
ferret_# /dev/hda1 -- converted during upgrade to edgy02:36
rius09Hi02:36
ferret_UUID=fd102541-2bba-4cd7-aa22-be2c209fc0db / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 102:36
un_operateurwhoa02:36
nolimitsoya!paste | ferret_02:36
ubotuferret_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)02:36
ferret_# /dev/hda5 -- converted during upgrade to edgy02:36
ferret_UUID=799cc342-a1cd-4f90-b929-95776e6e1297 none swap sw 0 002:36
ferret_/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       002:36
ferret_/dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       002:36
nolimitsoyastop!02:36
ferret_ferret@ubuntu:~$02:36
un_operateurferret_, never ever ever do that02:36
ferret_Sorry, just caught the pastebin notice.02:37
un_operateurferret_, be considerate -- always use a pastebin02:37
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aileanSeveas, k3b copied my protected dvd, no questions asked :D k9copy didn't work . . .02:38
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grimboy!dvd02:38
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages02:38
Seveasailean, nice :)02:38
un_operateurferret_, do you know what filesystem that disk had -- FAT/NTFS/EXTx ??02:38
ferret_Pasted as fferret02:38
grimboy!burn-dvd02:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about burn-dvd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:38
nolimitsoyaferret_, link please02:38
grimboy!msg ubotu burn02:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about msg ubotu burn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:39
Toma-grimboy: what are you tryign to do?02:39
ferret_ISTR, ext3.02:39
grimboyMake myself look like an idiot.02:39
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ferret_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38646/02:39
aileanSeveas, Windows refused to touch it . . .02:39
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grimboyToma-, Also burn a dvd.02:39
brainiacghosthmm, ubuntu keeps randomly locking up, the logs don't show anything strange at all02:39
Toma-grimboy: try gnomebaker. its a tidy little app02:40
brainiacghosthappens with and without beryl02:40
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un_operateurferret_, it looks like the disk was mounted as normal user (via pmount) and you dont have sufficient permissions to write to it02:40
nolimitsoyabrainiacghost, might it be a hw problem?02:40
bulmerWnG88: you have an external USB drive you can attach to your laptop?02:40
grimboyToma-, No, a video DVD.02:40
brainiacghostnolimitsoya: windows doesn't02:40
brainiacghostnolimitsoya: and gentoo didn't (IIRC)02:40
Toma-grimboy: ok.. from an avi or something?02:40
un_operateurferret_, can you unmount the disk via the desktop?02:40
yannhi all! need some hlp with wlan drivers. they were working but i destroyed them while trying to set up a wlan with WAP... is there a way to run the hardware recognition again?02:40
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brainiacghostnolimitsoya: and i did a memtest last night (49 passes, no errors)] 02:41
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bulmeryann: none of your iwlist or iwconfig command works anymore?02:41
nolimitsoyabrainiacghost, slift through launchpad and make some attempts at reproduction02:41
grimboyToma-, No, an mpeg of some sort.02:41
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brainiacghostnolimitsoya: hmm, it seems to be totally random02:41
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WnG88bulmer: yes02:41
brainiacghostnolimitsoya: i don't THINK it is CPU02:42
yannbulmer: no more wireless devices02:42
Toma-grimboy: im using tovid right now to convert a video file to dvd02:42
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bulmerWnG88: if your laptop can boot off of those USB drives...then install it on that and not bother your main laptop OS02:42
ferret_un_operatuer:  It ejected.02:42
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grimboyToma-, Ok, cool, anymore conversion programs?02:42
ferret_I can't see it in the fstab at all...02:43
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un_operateurferret_, ok -- now at a terminal -- sudo mount /media/usbdisk02:43
bulmeryann: you rebooted and it did not reset?02:43
Toma-grimboy: winki the ripper is another cool one... more for copying dvds tho02:43
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yannno02:43
grimboyRight, thanks.02:43
un_operateurferret_, yea, you dont see disks mounted via pmount in fstab -- they're mounted in userspace02:43
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bulmeryann: no ..you didnt reboot? try rebooting and see if it recovers02:43
yannbulmer: i messed it up while trying to update. i rebooted but it didnt change anything02:43
ferret_un_operatuer:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38648/02:44
WnG88bulmer: hmm ok, was thinking of moving away from windoze on the lappy but wasn't sure if its worth it on a laptop02:44
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bulmeryann: um which chips does your wifi uses?02:44
yannbulmer: any way to delete all system  info about my wireless card and to have the system reconfigutre it again?02:44
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yannbulmer: ipw210002:44
yanniwp210002:45
bulmeryann: those configs are normally in  /etc/network/02:45
bulmerlook at interfaces file02:45
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ferret_un_operatuer: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38649/02:45
bulmerand perhaps use the network or hardware tools02:45
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un_operateurferret_, ok02:45
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johan_how do i remove an entry from grub02:46
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bulmerWnG88; I installed ubuntu on a laptop with windows, it allows to boot it off a usb drive, so when the need to use linux, we use that usb, for windows,  do nothing02:46
X_[Serenade] _XI need some help on something simple... I need help on installing xmms manually02:46
un_operateurferret_, errm, do you know which device it corresponds to in /dev/ ??  /dev/hdb /deb/hdc ??02:46
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yannbulmer: i have some entry saying'auto eth1' but it is not working. the icon in the gnomebar says the dev is missing02:47
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pushingupdaisiesusually, USB drives are /dev/sd?02:47
POVaddctX_[Serenade] _X: manually? you mean compiling from source?02:47
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bulmerjohan_: use vim or some editor of  /boot/grub/menu.lst02:47
un_operateurferret_, you could find out definitively by  -- sudo hdparm -i /dev/[hs] d?02:47
johan_thanks bulmer02:47
X_[Serenade] _Xyeah02:47
un_operateurpushingupdaisies, yea but he's using a USB2IDE converter and i'm not sure02:47
POVaddctX_[Serenade] _X: why not installing the xmms ubuntu package?02:47
wkerzendwhat qt package do I need so that make xconfig doesnt complain about missing qt installation? thanks in advance02:47
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bulmeryann: maybe if you use the hardware tools gui, you may be able to remove and re-install it02:47
X_[Serenade] _X...02:48
yannbulmer: ok i'll try it thx02:48
johan_do i need to restart grub or something after, im used to lilo02:48
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X_[Serenade] _XI am sort of new to Ubuntu...02:48
jpjacobswkerzend, i'd use make menuconfig :) it's much handier imho02:48
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des1hi all02:48
un_operateurwkerzend, maybe libqt-mt02:48
superkirbyartistUbuntu thinks I'm using Java 1.4; however, 1.5 is installed :(02:49
WnG88bulmer: sounds like a good idea, may just do that02:49
WnG88thanks02:49
POVaddctX_[Serenade] _X: being new to ubuntu is no excuse for not using its mechanisms02:49
des1i have problem with installing ubuntu02:49
wkerzendun_operateur: ill try that02:49
bulmeryou're welcome02:49
POVaddctX_[Serenade] _X: try: sudo apt-get install xmms02:49
wkerzendjpjacobs: what is wrong with xconfig02:49
ferret_un_operatuer: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38650/02:49
ken0How do i do THIS? I have got .iso files, which i want to "mount" as a CD-drive.02:49
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pushingupdaisiesthe USB2IDE is a USB device, so it should appear as a /dev/sd? device02:49
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nolimitsoyades1, just describe you problem. :) no need for introductions, and i guess you wouldnt be in the support channel unless you had a problem02:49
X_[Serenade] _X...k thanks....02:50
des1someone told me to download and burn hiren bootcd so i can active my USB HD02:50
un_operateurferret_, looks like you've got it under /media/usbdisk now :)02:50
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un_operateurferret_, it should be writable to now02:50
jpjacobswkerzend, there's nothing really wrong with it, i just like navigating by keyboard over navigating by mouse and having to switch all the time to type something in, to swap fields,...02:50
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des1I did but i dont know how to use partition magic anyone can tell me how to active my USB Hd with partition magic02:51
nolimitsoyaken0, 'sudo mount -o loop /<file> -t auto /<dir>02:51
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bulmerkenO: as root mount it like so   mount -t loop  youiso.iso /mnt02:51
jpjacobsken0, make a dir, use sudo mount -o loop <iso-file> <dir>02:51
nolimitsoyades1, usb hdd:s should show up as sd<something> in /dev02:51
bulmeroops -o instead of -t02:51
ken0nolimitsoya, /dir, is the destination directory02:51
nolimitsoyaken0, yes02:51
des1sd102:51
superkirbyartistHello?  I need help with Java!02:51
sltgrooveI have problems installing ubuntu- aaa, first screwdriver for an dose... then puter, then Ubuntu .... ( ancient G4 mit MacOS X in da mom ) :P02:51
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des1i can c it on the desktop now02:52
johan_how can i find out how my HD is partitionned02:52
superkirbyartistPlease.02:52
jpjacobs!ask >superkirbyartist02:52
wkerzendjpjacobs: in my opinion xconfig gives you a better overview but thats personal taste ;-) merry christmas btw02:52
des1USBdisk and USBdisk102:52
ken0nolimitsoya, can that directory exist in /media?02:52
nolimitsoyades1, whats the problem then?02:52
ferret_un_operatuer:  Nope.  (*sighs*)  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38651/02:52
jpjacobsyeah you all have a merry Xmas too!02:52
nolimitsoyaken0, it can be any directory you want02:52
ferret_BRB, need a cig.02:52
des1I cant run ubuntu from the system02:52
ken0nolimitsoya, jpjacobs: Thank you, help is much appreciated02:52
kyncanijohan_: use qtparted | gparted02:52
superkirbyartistOkay, I have java 1.5 installed on Edgy, it assumes I want to use 1.4 when I launch FrostWire.02:52
johan_thanks02:52
nolimitsoyades1, why not?02:52
des1I need to active USB Hd from my bios02:53
sltgroovedo that02:53
nolimitsoyades1, are you trying to boot of your usb drive?02:53
un_operateurferret_, sudo mkdir test   maybe??02:53
jpjacobssuperkirbyartist, do you need the 1.4? otherwise just uninstall it.02:53
superkirbyartistjpjacobs: How?02:53
des1My laptop dont support usb02:53
sltgroove???02:53
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yannbulmer: is there a terminal command for the hardware tools you mentioned above? i have a german version and am not sure if its the programm u meant02:53
sltgrooveusb boot ?02:53
des1yes02:53
pushingupdaisiesdoes anyone has this problem: as the only user in the system, and with administration permissions, suddenly I cannot run admin utils, like networking-admin or users-admin?02:53
bulmeryann: let me look around..hang on02:53
sltgroovehowcome?02:53
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sltgroovekinda BIOS ?02:54
jpjacobssuperkirbyartist, remove it in synaptic. try searching there for java, and then see what's installed, then remove every jdk but the latest02:54
rius09okay... I am back... comp acting buggy... anyway what was the command for installing xmms?02:54
nolimitsoyades1, youve lost me. you want to boot a usb drive on a computer that doesnt support usb booting? O.o02:54
sltgrooveAward, Phoenix ...?02:54
ken0nolimitsoya, Can you please explain these in your command? "-o", "-t", "auto"?02:54
yannbulmer: thx02:54
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nolimitsoyaken0, check out 'man mount' :)02:54
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des1yes02:55
ken0ok02:55
bulmeryann: on my dapper it says  gnome-nettool02:55
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ferret_un_operatuer:  Check the last link I posted, man.02:55
yannbulmer: thanks!02:55
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des1a supporter told me that i need to boot with hiren bootcd and fix the problem and active the Usb Hd02:55
ferret_un_operatuer:  Nope.  (*sighs*)  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38651/02:55
des1but how to do this with partition magic02:55
un_operateurferret_, I did -- but you're trying to create a directory there as normal user -- did you try as superuser?02:56
pushingupdaisiesdes1, if yor computer doesn't support USB boot, then you're out of luck.02:56
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nolimitsoyades1, partition magic doesnt come in to it. what youd need is a disc that loads an operating system, enables your disc and does a chroot. thats just a mess... id suggest considdering other options. if you want to go ahead, the slax project has usb boot cd;S02:56
des1what do u mean02:57
nolimitsoya*:s02:57
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yannbulmer: ok my eth1/iwp2100 is not there; but i gtg. thx for kind help and merry xmas!02:57
pushingupdaisiesthe BIOS has to support boting form a USB device02:57
ferret_un_operatuer:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38652/02:57
pushingupdaisiesbooting02:57
des1can you check this site and help me out please02:57
des1http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8081102:57
bulmeryann: merry xmas02:57
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un_operateurferret_, if that fails -- sudo umount /media/usbdisk; mkdir -p /mnt/usb; sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda /mnt/usb02:57
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un_operateurmake that a sudo mkdir, ferret_02:58
SurgeXhow do I remove the XFree86 Libz?02:58
POVaddctbulmer: my guess is yann upgraded the kernel and now udev looks for the ipw2100 firmware in the wrong directory02:58
SurgeXanyone know02:58
un_operateurwhy do that SurgeX ?02:58
nolimitsoyades1, first of all, that guide is three generations old. its not valid any more. second, what you are attempting is a mess, pure and simple. dont get into it unless its the last resort, and if you do, use a premade usb boot cd02:59
SuperLagAny of you guys put Apache 2.2 on your Eft installs?02:59
nolimitsoyades1, as i said, one can be found for the slax project02:59
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SurgeXan application says at compile time checking for libz... configure: error: not found.02:59
SuperLagbeen looking around on the forums, and I don't see anything relevant for upgrading to 2.202:59
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aric_cstesting03:00
aric_cssweet it works03:00
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pushingupdaisiesdes1, that works IF your computer BIOS supports USB booting.03:00
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wkerzendI have a problem: I want to use raid 5 on an asus p5b board and want to boot from an additional pci ide pata controller and want to use the internal ahci controller (raid 5) as a data disk. As soon as I activate this internal controller ubuntu doesnt boot any more. I want to built a custom kernel but have not seen an ahci option. please help03:00
des1how to make usb bootcd03:00
POVaddctdes1: look, if your bios cannot boot from usb devices, it means the machine cannot boot from usb devices. simple as that.03:00
nolimitsoyapushingupdaisies, des1, it could also work if a full install is done and booted via grub from the mbr of the internaldrive, but still, its a mess booting of external devices03:01
ferret_un_operatuer:  Ok, I now have write access as root through /mnt/usb.03:01
des1so i cant install ubuntu ?03:01
un_operateurSuperLag, on feisty -- I've got Server version: Apache/2.2.303:01
nolimitsoyaPOVaddct, its not that simple. its just messy to get working :)03:01
un_operateurferret_, nice :)03:01
pushingupdaisiesthe steps show are for enabling USB support in the external drive installation, but not for enabling USB boot on the computer03:01
POVaddctnolimitsoya: how would it be possible?03:01
SurgeXun_operateur: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38654/03:01
POVaddctnolimitsoya: booting kernel and initrd from another device?03:01
SuperLagun_operateur: I'm trying to stick with a stable base :)03:01
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SurgeXcan you help me with it?03:01
ferret_Can I remount it to give access to my default user?03:01
POVaddctnolimitsoya: and only taking the root fs from usb?03:01
nolimitsoyaPOVaddct, ive described two options the last 5min. pay attention ;)03:01
ferret_un_operatuer: Can I remount it to give access to my default user?03:02
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SuperLagun_operateur: but I need Apache 2.2.3 for mod_proxy_balancer03:02
pushingupdaisiesdes1, you can boot a external drive, from a special boot CD that mounts a boots the kernel from the external drive, but it's a bit complicated.03:02
superkirbyartistFrostWire makes a white screen when I load it!03:02
pushingupdaisiesmounts and boots03:02
un_operateurferret_, it's best to get root to give permissions to normal users03:03
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rius09POVaddct what was the command to manually install xmms?03:03
vect0rxso... im be switching from gentoo probably03:03
superkirbyartist100% white.03:03
vect0rxif i like the livecd03:03
nolimitsoyarius09, sudo apt-get install xmms03:03
pushingupdaisiesthats what nolimitsoya was saying before03:03
SuperLagvect0rx: why? Gentoo is good :)03:03
SuperLagvect0rx: but I'm biased :)03:03
rius09thanks03:03
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un_operateurSurgeX, maybe this helps -- sudo aptitude install zlib1g zlib1g-dev03:03
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hanzoh_hey03:03
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vect0rxsuperlag, i've given it two chances....once in '02 emerge broke itself..03:03
hanzoh_does anyone know who this is?03:03
hanzoh_http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/261/einmann444qq8.jpg03:03
POVaddctnolimitsoya: okay, but you suggestions all need booting the kernel/bootloader from another (non-usb) device03:04
superkirbyartistCan someone welp me with the white FrostWire window?03:04
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SuperLagvect0rx: it's come a LONG way since '0203:04
vect0rxand another then for hte last year and a half it's just a bitch getting updates03:04
des1Iam tring to install ubuntu for one week 18 hour a day mate iam not thinking to giveup now03:04
vect0rxyeah i was told that03:04
nolimitsoyaPOVaddct, nope. just the boot loader needs to be on another device03:04
des1so tell me what to do03:04
vect0rxbut it's still breaking on ime :)03:04
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POVaddctrius09: sudo apt-get install xmms03:04
SurgeXthanks ill try it03:04
vect0rxim onlyschool slackware so i used to sactually like all te manually tinkering w/no package management03:04
un_operateurSuperLag, it seems edgy only supports as far as Apache2.0.55-4ubuntu403:04
superkirbyartistWhite frostwire window :(03:04
wkerzendanyone had any luck with asus p5b and raid 5 under edgy? thanks03:04
nolimitsoyades1, as wheve said, give up and find a solution thats actualy a good one, like resizeing and installing to your internal drive03:05
SuperLagun_operateur: yep.03:05
SuperLag*SIGH*03:05
pushingupdaisiesnolmitsoya, can't you do that form GRUB? I'm might be completely wrong...03:05
hanzoh_nobody?03:05
hanzoh_http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/261/einmann444qq8.jpg03:05
ferret_un_operatuer: /me looks embarassed.  "I am root.  can't su to root, may have mistyped my passwd.03:05
un_operateurSuperLag, if you feel brave you can always download and install the feisty ones03:05
des1its just 40 Gb03:05
nolimitsoyades1, be aware that resizeing is very dangerous and you should always have a full backup. still, thats less work than what you are planning now03:05
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un_operateurSuperLag, but that has no guarantees to work and it probably will break a few things03:05
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nolimitsoyapushingupdaisies, thats what ive said. several times ;)03:05
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ferret_un_operatuer: /me facepalms!  "Never mind, reset with passwd.03:06
un_operateurferret_, eh? what?03:06
un_operateur:)03:06
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nolimitsoyapushingupdaisies, the two options where: 1) boot a live cd and chroot - 2) install grub to the mbr of the internal drive and load from there03:06
des1:-!03:06
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curs0rmy gnome-dock is almost done :D03:06
pushingupdaisiesLOL @ des103:06
nolimitsoya!caps | superkirbyartist03:07
ubotusuperkirbyartist: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.03:07
superkirbyartistnolimitsoya: sounds like you can't.03:07
nolimitsoya!attitude | superkirbyartist03:07
ubotusuperkirbyartist: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines03:07
des1but why should someone guide me to download hiren bootcd03:07
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un_operateurdes1, you were misinformed there i should think03:08
pushingupdaisiesdes1, because HirenBootCD might have a utility to do what we are saying...03:08
superkirbyartistnolimitsoya: It's supposed to snow OUTSIDE!  Not on the FrostWire thingee.03:08
nolimitsoyades1, ive told you numerous times that the slax project has a premade usb boot cd. go get it. if you cant google that slax webpage i suggest you give up right noe03:08
nolimitsoya*w03:08
superkirbyartistIt's snow white all I can tell you.03:08
ferret_un_operatuer:  Feh, it should have occurred to me to remount it.  Thanks, man.  Merci beaucoup.03:08
superkirbyartistIt loads everything then the window is white.03:08
pushingupdaisiesdes1, how big is your internal drive, and how much it has free space?03:08
un_operateurferret_, and it works now?03:09
nolimitsoyapushingupdaisies, that suggestion has already been passed, and rejected it seems ;)03:09
aric_csmy internal drive is bigger than yours :X03:09
un_operateurferret_, vous-etes bein-venu03:09
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des1its 40Gb and I have 27Gb free03:09
pushingupdaisiesnolimitsoya, maybe he didn't understood it...03:09
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pushingupdaisiesdes1, and you don't want to give up the free space for Linux, is that it?03:09
nolimitsoyapushingupdaisies, in that case i wouldnt advice any complicated resize/backup operations :)03:10
ferret_un_operatuer:  It seems to, s'il vous plait.  Je compre soulement une peu frances.03:10
un_operateuraric_cs, my external case is bigger than yours :)03:10
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pushingupdaisiesnolimitsoya, true... :)03:10
aric_csun_operateur: haha03:10
pushingupdaisiesnot that dificult, though03:10
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SurgeXthe commands aptitude removed some KDE components now i'll have to redownload them03:10
un_operateurferret_, ca va. moi aussi, je comprend un petit peu03:11
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des1yes03:11
des1then i cant save anything03:11
Rayerhey every1 marry xmas03:11
TheAspcurs0r: what is gnome-dock?03:11
pushingupdaisiesdes1: ok, how about adding a new internal disk? can you do it, or have someone else do it?03:11
POVaddctapt-get moo    ;)03:11
nolimitsoyapushingupdaisies, well... download the partimage live cd, getting through without thrashing anything completely in the blind without irc, saving the restore on the right drive. reinserting the backup if needed, determening if its neede etc...03:11
curs0rTheAsp, gnome-dock is a ripoff of cairo-dock03:12
nolimitsoyapushingupdaisies, can be a bit overwhelming if you are new to the concept :)03:12
TheAspcurs0r: which is a ripoff of wm's dock and bdock?03:12
nolimitsoyades1, you still have your external drive. use it03:12
aric_csaptitude makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside03:12
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des1Its laptop man03:12
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pushingupdaisiesnolimitsoya: I have done it with Knoppix several times, and it went fine. not for the faint hearted, though.03:12
siouxhi who knows tremulous game?03:12
curs0rTheAsp, but it's crappy and the icons are static to the code03:12
TheAspah :)03:12
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nolimitsoyades1, you can share it between ubuntu and windows with ext3 fs and ext2ifs from fs-driver.org03:13
pushingupdaisiesdes1: oh, sorry, didn't realised it was a laptop.03:13
curs0rTheAsp, but the grphics code is good so i'm adding to it03:13
un_operateursuperkirbyartist, i got your PM but i dont think you got mine03:13
aric_cssioux: Tremulous is a great game03:13
des1np03:13
nolimitsoyades1, and thats diffrent, how?03:13
Lunar_LampHow do I change the "message of the day" that appears when you login to a user on the command line? I edited /etc/motd but this doesn't appear to be persistent after a reboot.03:13
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ferret_un_operatuer:  Merde.  It still sees the directories as read only!  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38655/03:13
superkirbyartistNope.03:13
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RayerYa I encountered the same problem, system will "undo" my change of MOTD lol03:14
curs0rTheAsp, i wanted a dockapp that could be workspace independent03:14
siouxaric_cs: i know i made a bad video setting and now can't run it03:14
nolimitsoyades1, a last resort might be to use the external drive as a casper cow, and booting the live system for running ubuntu03:14
ferret_un_operatuer:  I'm actually better in German or Spanish.03:14
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pushingupdaisiesnolimitsoya: laptops only carry 1 disk03:14
aric_cssioux: Oops!03:14
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pushingupdaisieshe can replace the disk with a bigger one, but...03:14
siouxaric_cs: i don't know how to fix it03:14
nolimitsoyapushingupdaisies, then i missed something. why would you need a second for the resize routine? :)03:14
aric_cssioux: I'm sure someone can help :)03:15
des1I didint get what you mean can explain please03:15
nolimitsoyapushingupdaisies, never mind, i scrolled up :P03:15
POVaddctLunar_Lamp: i think /etc/motd is autogenerated by the /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh init script03:15
derFloi need a programm to make soundfiles louder03:15
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nolimitsoyaderFlo, audacity03:15
siouxaric_cs: where on this irc03:15
pushingupdaisiesnolimitsoya: I was thinking about adding a second disk, and use GRUB to boot form 2nd disk03:15
sioux?03:15
Lunar_LampPOVaddct, ok, thanks - I;ll look into changing that then :-)03:15
aric_cssioux: I have no idea, this is my first day on IRC03:15
pushingupdaisiesbut being a laptop,that's not an option03:15
un_operateurferret_, I cant for the life of me see whats wrong -- it seems to be ok03:15
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nolimitsoyapushingupdaisies, that wouldnt be any diffrent from booting the external from grub03:15
POVaddctLunar_Lamp: look for something like EDIT_MOTD03:15
pushingupdaisiesyep...03:15
un_operateurferret_, are you sure its an ext3 FS not ext2??03:16
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des1what about casper cow03:16
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siouxtry sudo apt-get install tremulous03:16
ferret_un_operatuer: Yeah, I'm pretty sure, but let me remount it and try it.03:16
johan_hello, i got 2 instances of ubuntu one at hda3 and hda603:16
snaketesthi all, I have a problem with a program , when i start it came a problem:03:16
snaketest/usr/games/pcsx: line 31: lndir: command not found03:16
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pushingupdaisiesnolimitsoya: des1 still has to modify the installation on the external drive, and then install GRUB on the internal drive...03:17
siouxso some one can help me how to fix the video setting problem that i got03:17
johan_the boot grub is on hda6 but i boot on hda303:17
nolimitsoyades1, a cow is a drive where all _changes_ to the live system is saved. google it, and you might find a guide :) it involves setting a volume label and booting passing a special parameter03:17
ferret_un_operatuer:  Nope, I get wrong fstype when I try it.03:17
nolimitsoyapushingupdaisies, that can be done with the standard installer03:17
johan_how can i get rid of hda6 without affecting my boot03:17
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des1you conusing me guys03:17
siouxhere is a italian recension http://pollycoke.wordpress.com/2006/12/24/tremulous-giocone-completamente-gpl/03:17
nolimitsoyajohan_, comment it out of your fstab03:17
nolimitsoyades1, then dont attempt it ;)03:18
des1youll see >p03:18
Lunar_LampPOVaddct, the appropriate lines are: http://www.pastebin.it/index.php?id=259503:18
des1:p03:18
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Lunar_LampPOVaddct, that would indicate that I should edit /etc/motd.tail with my new message?03:18
johan_hda6 is not in my fstab03:18
pushingupdaisiesdes1: as it seems, you portable cannot boot form a external disk on USB. so, only option would be to install GRUB on the internal disk, and it would recognize the USB disk and boot the kernel from there.03:18
johan_but grub on hda6 controls the boot03:19
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nolimitsoyajohan_, then its about reinserting grub after the delete03:19
wkerzendhow do I force ubuntu edgy to display information while booting?03:19
pushingupdaisiesdes: but it isn't a simple procedure, though not that difficult.03:19
nolimitsoya!grub | johan_03:19
ubotujohan_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto03:19
un_operateurferret_, can you post the output of this -- sudo hdparm -i /dev/sd*03:19
POVaddctLunar_Lamp: yeah03:19
johan_thanks03:19
POVaddctLunar_Lamp: are you using edgy?03:19
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un_operateurferret_, i might have to slap myself for this one :-s -- sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb03:20
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whyameyeredhat has chkconfig. Is there something similar in ubuntu?03:21
ferret_un_operatuer:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38656/03:21
Lunar_LampPOVaddct, yes - edgy server edition (the box in question)03:21
ferret_un_operatuer:  Done.03:21
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POVaddctLunar_Lamp: then in edgy they changed the location of the motd file. i think is used to be /etc/motd, now it seems its /var/run/motd03:22
un_operateurferret_, check if it works now (if you tried the last command)03:22
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ferret_un_operatuer:  I can't sudo chown them or as root.  WTF?03:22
un_operateurferret_, did you mount /dev/sda1?03:22
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un_operateurwhyameye, on debian/ubuntu we use update-rc.d03:22
un_operateurwhyameye, if you are used to the redhat/fedora service command -- you can install sysvconfig03:23
ferret_un_operatuer: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38657/  BRB, 'nother cig.03:23
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whyameyeun_operateur: thanks! Looking into it now..03:24
derFlowhere can i  find the file libmp3lame.so?03:24
nolimitsoyaderFlo, apt-cache search lame03:24
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un_operateurderFlo, install liblame-dev03:24
AlexC_Hey,03:24
mormolocin what directory can i find my NTFS-Xp and Fat32 partition on my Ubuntu os?03:24
davieyCan anybody recommend a Video Chat / conference that will support 3 way video/audio calling that has a windows client.  Ideally good quality and fullscreen?03:24
AlexC_How can I get my ethernet address via terminal?03:24
un_operateurAlexC_, ifconfig03:25
davieyAlexC_, do you mean IP or mac?03:25
Lunar_LampPOVaddct, oh, I thought /var/run was a weird dir that was auto-generated. I'm not that expert in booting stuff :-) Thanks for the pointer!03:25
nolimitsoyadaviey, they both show with ifconfig03:25
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davieynolimitsoya, good point03:25
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POVaddctLunar_Lamp: /var/run is auto-generated03:25
des1guys e2label/dev/sda1: command not found whats wrong03:25
derFlothx, nolimitsoya03:26
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Lunar_LampPOVaddct, so how can I edit /var/run then? It won't be persistent after a reboot!03:26
un_operateurderFlo, you could also use arp03:26
AlexC_daviey: Hum, no, not my IP address - ethernet address. Just on Windows it shows up as say E00508D9719DCA but on Linux it's like 00:50:8D:97:19:DC03:26
nolimitsoyaderFlo, thank un_operateur instead ;)03:26
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davieyAlexC_, take out the ':' ;)03:26
nolimitsoyaAlexC_, thats usualy called a mac adress, btw :)03:26
POVaddctLunar_Lamp: no, you edit /etc/motd.tail, it gets appended to the generated file in /var/run at each boot03:26
Lunar_LampOh, so I can't remove the default stuff about ubuntu then?03:27
POVaddctLunar_Lamp: yes, looks like that03:27
AlexC_nolimitsoya: yeah I thought 00:50:8D:97:19:DC that was called mac, just it was different from on Windows :P03:27
un_operateurAlexC_, different systems have different ways of representing the MAC address -- windows just does things the funny way, it always has03:27
AlexC_does a lot of things funny :P03:27
davieyAlexC_, 12 digits from, each is 16 bit03:27
un_operateurAlexC_, say that again :p03:27
AlexC_does a lot of things funny :P03:28
nolimitsoya:P03:28
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AlexC_lol03:28
POVaddctLunar_Lamp: of course you could modify the bootmisc.sh script, but that wouldnt be "clean"03:28
un_operateurAlexC_, point made :p03:28
ferret_un_operateur:  Ok, a butt and a brownie make me feel less homcidal.03:28
AlexC_hehe =) ok, I'm gonna go try this thigny magig now - trying to get Maya installed,03:28
un_operateurferret_, ok, umount what you have now -- and try remounting /dev/sda103:28
nolimitsoyaferret_, thats wrong onn somany levels...03:28
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un_operateurnolimitsoya, I think i was ok ignoring that but you just had to investigate further eh? :)03:29
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nolimitsoyaun_operateur, of course :P03:29
Lunar_LampPOVaddct, yeah, I know what you mean, it doesn't feel right to do it that way :-)03:29
ferret_un_operatuer:  Device does not exist.03:29
AlexC_daviey: hum, are you sure E00508D9719DCA is a mac address? It's longer than the one on Linux03:30
AlexC_daviey: and mac address from Windows to Ubuntu is different, Ubuntu is shorted - is that normal?03:30
un_operateurAlexC_, minus the A at the end obviously :p03:30
un_operateurferret_, how about /dev/sda2?03:31
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ferret_un_operateur:  Non.03:31
levanderCan someone tell me why I can't get this theme to install? http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=4376603:31
hjmillshi - i can see totem has an option to output to a tv but its greyed out - does anybody know how I can enable it?03:31
un_operateurAlexC_, eerm, how are you verifying the MAC address on windows?03:31
levanderEverone making comments on it gets it to install.03:31
POVaddctAlexC_: a mac address is always six bytes long, no matter what OS you are using03:31
AlexC_un_operateur: ipconfig /all03:31
ferret_un_operatuer: All I have is dev/sda03:31
AlexC_POVaddct: that's what I thought, but on Windows it _is_ longer,03:32
AlexC_POVaddct: and different :S03:32
nolimitsoyaAlexC_, the mac adress is a physacal adress imprinted to your nic. i shouldnt change with the os03:32
siouxi need a little help.   with tremulous a 3d gpl game i made a bad setting for display. when it run says Initializing OpenGL display...setting mode 8: 1280 1024 and goes in error.  any idea about what can i do with opengl?03:32
un_operateurferret_, have you tried rebooting with the drive plugged in?03:32
nolimitsoyaAlexC_, you are most likely looking at diffrent nics03:32
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AlexC_nolimitsoya: yeah I know, so how come they are comming up differently?03:32
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AlexC_nolimitsoya: hum, well I'm using the on-board network on the Abit AW9D03:32
POVaddctAlexC_: and you are sure both systems report the same network card?03:33
ferret_Yes.  Here, take a look at this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38658/03:33
AlexC_POVaddct: windows kinda of reports what it wants, It's also set up some kind of Gateway03:33
Lunar_Lamplevander, I just installed it with no problems. I downloaded the tar.gz, opened up system>preferences>theme and selected install, and pointed it to the tar.gz03:33
nolimitsoyaAlexC_, and do you have other nic installed? what is connection 1 on windows isnt automaticaly eth0in linux03:33
un_operateurAlexC_, this is how my ipconfig puts it -- Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-04-76-25-C3-C7  which looks normal to me03:33
nolimitsoyaAlexC_, ah, you might be running a personal firewall on windows? :)03:34
AlexC_nolimitsoya: no, no firewall03:34
ferret_un_operatuer: Yes.  Here, take a look at this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38658/03:34
nolimitsoyaAlexC_, some pf:s for windows sets up a fake device03:34
AlexC_not even the built-in one from SP203:34
nolimitsoyaAlexC_, you should ;)03:34
AlexC_yeah I know, but I use Ubuntu mostly03:34
nolimitsoyaAlexC_, anyhow, when in doubt, trust unix ;)03:34
AlexC_always :P03:34
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levanderLunar_Lamp: thanks, it seems like a lot of these, I have to open up the .tar.gz file to find another .tar.gz file.  Guess I got used to do it that way.  Thanks for the help.03:35
un_operateurferret_, ok -- lets try another thing -- sudo umount /mnt/usb; sudo chown 777 /mnt/usb; sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb03:35
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AlexC_nolimitsoya: well doing "ifconfig -a" I see eth1 and eth0 - both of which have the same mac address03:36
POVaddctAlexC_: a firewire port can also be reported as a ethernet card (ethernet over firewire). maybe it is that one?03:36
nolimitsoyaAlexC_, thats strange...03:36
un_operateurAlexC_, eh?????03:36
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ferret_un_operateur:  /me hesitates to make his USB drive world-accessible, but OK...03:36
nolimitsoyaAlexC_, i see great breakage in my crystall ball :P03:36
un_operateurAlexC_, thats almost infeasible03:36
AlexC_nolimitsoya: hehe03:36
AlexC_un_operateur: weird, I know. but true :S03:37
SurgeXHow do i install the KDE headers?03:37
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nolimitsoyaSurgeX, kde-dev?03:37
SurgeXthx03:37
un_operateurSurgeX, apt-cache search libkde perhaps?03:37
AlexC_un_operateur: nolimitsoya I am behind a network router, could that be why?03:37
nolimitsoyaAlexC_, no03:37
SurgeXthanks03:37
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un_operateurAlexC_, every interface on a device usually must possess unique MAC addresses03:38
AlexC_nolimitsoya: eth0 has no inet addr - let me pastebin the output03:38
POVaddctAlexC_: also be aware that a mac address can be changed on linux (not in the real hardware but for the arp behaviour in the kernel)03:38
un_operateurAlexC_, well, every ethernet device in the world must have a unique MAC address03:38
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bubbleshi03:38
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bubblesis there an up-to-date version of source-o-matic?03:39
nolimitsoya!easysource | bubbles03:39
ubotububbles: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic03:39
POVaddctAlexC_: as long as an interface is down, you can do this: ifconfig eth0 hw ether 01:de:ad:be:ef:4203:39
gnomefreakbubbles: no not yet03:39
bubbles:\03:39
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AlexC_POVaddct: un_operateur, nolimitsoya http://pastebin.ca/29090203:39
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bubblesa lot of the source-o-matic repositories are down...03:40
gnomefreakhes been too busy to update it03:40
gnomefreakbubbles: we know03:40
POVaddctAlexC_: not the same mac address03:40
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bubblesso, what should i do?03:40
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un_operateurAlexC_, they arent the same 00:50:8D:97:19:DC vs 00:50:8D:97:19:DD03:40
gnomefreakbubbles: what are you looking for?03:40
nolimitsoyaAlexC_, i second POVaddct :P03:40
ferret_un_operatuer:  Nope.  Even as root, it won't let me change ownership.  Still says read-only.03:40
bubblesopera, sun-java03:40
alecjwdoes anyone know what the fastest window manager is?03:40
AlexC_woops! didn't see that!03:40
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gnomefreakbubbles: java is in repos03:41
bubblesk, opera?03:41
gnomefreakbubbles: download the .deb for opera from opera.com03:41
POVaddctAlexC_: but the two cards are obviously from the same manufacturer03:41
gnomefreakbubbles: there is one built for ubuntu03:41
AlexC_POVaddct: yes, they are - afaik. onboard ones from Abit03:41
ferret_un_operatuer:  Anod mount still says it's rw!  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38661/03:41
hjmillsalecjw: fluxbox is fast - so is open box - i think icewm is only a tiny bit heavier03:41
bubblesyeah, but that means no automatic updates :\03:41
un_operateurferret_, well, I dunno why it is that way -- maybe it has something to do with your USB2IDE converter03:41
AlexC_POVaddct: ok I did that command, and it changed the mac adderss on eth0 - is that the same as my Windows one now?03:42
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alecjwhjmills: on a computer where flkuxbox is very sluggish, is there any hope for openbox?03:42
hjmillsalecjw: poss - what are the specs of the pc?03:42
alecjw*fluxbox03:42
POVaddctAlexC_: no, the mac address change takes only effect in linux and only until the next reboot03:42
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alecjwhjmills: pentium, 265mhz. 32mb ram03:42
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emacsenI have a bug, but I don't know how to describe the symptoms03:43
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AlexC_POVaddct: I see, but I am still confused as to why the Windows mac address is longer than the Windows one (E00508D9719DCA)03:43
emacsencan someone help me file a decent bug report?03:43
nolimitsoyaalecjw, use an older kernel and strip as much as you can03:43
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nolimitsoyaalecjw, fluxbox/icewm should be fine03:43
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AlexC_emacsen: I think the bug is describe-a-itus, how can will help if we don't know what it is :P03:43
hjmillsalecjw: you could try stuff like fvwm or just run in a terminal so you dont need to load x03:43
POVaddctAlexC_: i dont know what windows does...03:43
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hjmillsthere is another wm that is hiding and im chasing it round and round my brain03:43
un_operateurferret_, you might like to try adding a line to /etc/fstab -- like this -- /dev/sda   /boot ext3 rw,defaults_xattr 0 2   -- and then sudo mount -a03:44
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un_operateurferret_, do all that after umounting obviously03:44
AlexC_POVaddct: hum, brb - booting into windows03:44
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nolimitsoyahjmills, ice/xfce?03:44
alecjwnolimitsoya: is there an ubuntu which uses the 2.4 kernel?03:44
nolimitsoyaalecjw, nope03:44
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gnomefreakemacsen: give as much info as you can ex. what happens, how to reproduce it, on what version of ubuntu, what version of app giving issues, so on03:44
gnomefreakalecjw: no03:44
alecjwdoh03:44
emacsenAlexC_: My system (with an NVidia card) has X, but with either the Free driver or the proprietary Nvidia driver, X will be fine for a few seconds, then the mouse will work, but other input won't.03:44
nolimitsoyaalecjw, i wouldnt suggest using ubuntu at all, for those specs...03:44
hjmillsnolimitsoya: no - i want to say enlightenment but it isnt - i think its either older or has an older look to it than flux or ice and def older than xfce03:44
gnomefreakalecjw: you can use the 2.4 kernel but be warned things may not work correctly (2.4 kernel can be found in repos)03:45
emacsenbut I have no idea what to call that :)03:45
alecjwnolimitsoya: currently, it's ruinning cubuntu03:45
alecjwwhich works fibne03:45
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malikeyecubuntu ?03:46
nolimitsoyaalecjw, youll just get bogged down trying to run anything graphical on top of something as heavy as ubuntu, sorry03:46
hjmillsalecjw: you could try installing dsl to the hdd03:46
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ferret_un_operatuer:  It has no software, and no hardware RO switch.  (*checks*)03:46
nolimitsoyamalikeye, the command line version03:46
hjmills!cubuntu03:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:46
alecjwhjmills: it doesn't work with the mouse03:46
alecjwand toichpad03:46
malikeyenolimitsoya: server version ?03:46
petternCan i write to ntfs with ubuntu now, or is it still not supported?03:46
nolimitsoyamalikeye, nope.03:46
malikeyehmm03:46
malikeyeanother version03:46
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nolimitsoyapettern, you can, but its still experimental. check out ntfs-3g03:47
gnomefreakmalikeye: yes on the alternate install cd you can install as server or OEM install03:47
un_operateurferret_, I dunno -- maybe the converter doesn't understand write commands from the controller (thats what i think now)03:47
mjrpettern, not supported, but you can if you're adventurous. See ntfs-3g03:47
malikeyegnomefreak: so cubuntu == server ? or no ?03:47
gnomefreakno03:47
flossgeekpettern: You have to realise NTFS is a closed file structuring system by microsoft03:47
malikeyek03:47
gnomefreakmalikeye: i dont know who made cubuntu03:47
nolimitsoyagnomefreak, but they arent the same. cubuntu installes browsers and whatnot, for a fully functional cli system03:47
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alecjwgnomefreak: i did :)03:48
gnomefreaknolimitsoya: they are not the same. ubuntu doesnt make cubuntu03:48
levanderI've got a "System Sounds" .tar.gz file from gnome-look.org.  Is there a way to install the whole .tar.gz, or do I have to set each sound to play for each event in the Sound applet, file by file?03:48
hjmillsalecjw: hmm - you would prob have to sort out driver support yourself if you want it to be really light - try starting with ubuntu cli install and make a custom kernel supporting only what you need with nothing extra then removing stuff like hal that you dont want03:48
nolimitsoyaflossgeek, and a crappy one at that :P03:48
un_operateuranyone ever try fluxbuntu out yet?? whats it like?03:48
nolimitsoyagnomefreak, thats what i said :P03:48
petternnever mind i was lucky and the USB HD was using fat3203:48
gnomefreakun_operateur: its fluxbox instead of gnome kde or whatever03:48
alecjwun_operateur: it's pretty good. light but fully featured03:48
IdleOneun_operateur, it like ubuntu with fluxbox wm03:48
POVaddcti'd rather install ubuntu server and then apt-get install screen irssi mc mutt ...03:48
un_operateurfluxbuntu, what a feat of the tongue?? why wasnt it called flubuntu?03:48
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AlexC_Hey, me again :P03:48
POVaddctAlexC_: hi again03:49
un_operateurguys, I know what fluxbuntu is lol .. I asked if anyone's tried it here03:49
un_operateur<< runs fluxbox03:49
hjmillsun_operateur: i guess whether its a tongue feat depends on what language you normally speak03:49
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rejdenhello03:49
IdleOneun_operateur, then your trying it03:49
rejdenanyone ruuning ubuntu on ultra20?03:49
nolimitsoyaalecjw, have you tried a minimal install and then just apt-geting the wm?03:49
sltgroovehehehe- fluxbox most usefull on Windows - as a shell- IE gets kicked, 40-50 MB RAM saved03:49
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AlexC_POVaddct: Ok, I don't know what I am looking for - but it's not my Mac Addrress. I just checked the Mac address on Windows is the same. So what the hell is "00508d9719dd" it says it's the Ethernet Address ( This is from a licensing tool for Maya on Windows )03:49
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gnomefreakun_operateur: yes and its fluxbox. want to try it before installing it install fluxbox on ubuntu03:50
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hjmillssltgroove: how do you run fluxbox on windows?03:50
sltgroovebbLean03:50
malikeyecubuntu doesn't really have a home, it looks03:50
sltgroovebb4win.org03:50
rambo3hjmills,  you cant you can run blackbox03:50
gnomefreakhjmills: good luck i dont think its possible03:50
POVaddctAlexC_: now the world is consistent again :)03:50
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AlexC_POVaddct: omg what the hell. I am confused! that 00508d9719dd is my mac address03:50
ferret_un_operatuer:  Tried the fstab entry, gives me wrong fstype03:50
hjmillsrambo3: cool - how?03:50
AlexC_POVaddct: it wasn't that before, gah - hold on03:50
sltgroovesimply grab the package from bb4win03:50
rambo3hjmills, http://www.bb4win.org/news.php03:50
hjmillsrambo3: thanks03:51
un_operateurferret_, I'm spend my friend -- i've tried everything -- maybe you'd like to ask nolimitsoya or gnomefreak03:51
malikeyefound it : http://alecjw.googlepages.com/cubuntu-commandlineubuntu03:51
alecjwnolimitsoya: yep. it was very sluggish03:51
ferret_un_operatuer:  But it mount just fine manually.03:51
alecjwmalikeye: oh sorry. if i knew you were looking for it, i could have given you the link :D03:51
nolimitsoyaalecjw, thats what i thought. as i said, try out a less bloated distro. perhaps get into gentoo?03:51
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GreyGhost!chkdsk03:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about chkdsk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:51
un_operateurgnomefreak, hjmills, IdleOne -- how different is the fluxbuntu "distro" to a normal ubuntu running fluxbox on top?? if that makes my question clearer?03:51
c1rui want to sell my wii03:51
GreyGhost!FS03:51
LjL!fsck | GreyGhost03:51
ferret_un_operatuer:  (*nodnods*)  I'll take a break then and come back to it  later.  Thank you for your efforts, mon ami.03:51
malikeyealecjw: :)03:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about FS - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:51
alecjwnolimitsoya: debian maybe? might htat work?03:52
ubotuGreyGhost: fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot03:52
c1runeed money for eat xd03:52
c1ruanyone interested?03:52
c1ruxD03:52
malikeyealecjw: seeing as it's your effort ;)03:52
nolimitsoyaalecjw, ubntu is based on debian03:52
gnomefreakun_operateur: the default apps it uses differ03:52
un_operateurferret_, vous-etes bein-venu03:52
[swb] c1ru, how much03:52
alecjwnolimitsoya: yeah. i know, but i've heard that it's leass bloated03:52
gnomefreakun_operateur: the devel for flubuntu is working on a meta package for it to add to our repos03:52
GreyGhostLjL ,thanks man ... i had to restart Ubuntu cos it started behaving weirdly...wouldn't even shutdown... decided to run a chkdsk ... or fsck rather :)03:52
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alecjwmalikeye: 0.3 will be released as soon as i can get dpkg-scanpackages to work xD03:53
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nolimitsoyaalecjw, you could try, but i dont think its worth your time. they are both designed for modern hw. try a custom gentoo (as if there was another :P ) with a lightweight kernel03:53
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c1ruwii 250+50 wiimote03:53
un_operateurgnomefreak, does it try and not use any of the gnome/gtk2 libraries?03:53
alecjwnolimitsoya: ok. thanks03:53
c1rui just buy it yesterday, but i have to sell it, too much gfor me03:53
gnomefreakun_operateur: it uses gtk iirc03:53
rambo3fluxubuntu people must be wronking from come coffechop in holland, they've beeon working on it for over a year now03:53
malikeyec1ru: did you get injured yet ?03:53
gnomefreakjoejaxx: you around?03:54
un_operateurgnomefreak, ahh, so, it's not too different then03:54
nolimitsoyarambo3, arent we all? /me takes a spliff03:54
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c1ruapologize about my english03:54
[swb] c1ru, what currency?03:54
c1rui have low money and i dont want it03:54
malikeyenolimitsoya: if it could only be true03:54
gnomefreakun_operateur: not really its just fluxbox with default apps03:54
alecjwgnomefreak: joejaxx is away03:54
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malikeyec1ru: injure yourself and then join the class action againt N... you'll be rich then :)03:54
gnomefreakalecjw: i see that03:54
alecjwok03:54
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[swb] or give it to someone as a christmas present and hope they will love you enough after that to feed you03:55
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un_operateurgnomefreak, yea, obviously :)03:55
rius09I want the Wii03:55
malikeyerius09: have you ever used one ?03:55
malikeyeit's more of a workout then a console03:55
rius09Yes I have03:55
GreyGhostwill Ubuntu Ship it CDs come with Xmas decorations tis Xmas?03:55
gnomefreakrius09: please bring that topic into #ubuntu-offtopic03:55
un_operateurgnomefreak, It's what i do too -- try and not use any gnome/gtk2 apps except the ones i really need -- evolution/firefox/OO, etc03:55
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alecjwrius09: or #ubuntuforums03:56
un_operateurGreyGhost, in the "spirit of ubuntu" -- i'd like to think so -- but who knows?? they dont come cheap :)03:56
GreyGhostun_operateur , ;) hehe03:57
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malikeyethat's a pretty large investment for a free OS.... shipping CD's to anyone that requests03:57
un_operateurmalikeye, me thinks they just recycle all those binned AOL ones :>03:58
malikeyehaha03:58
malikeyebut.... the brand is huge at this point, so returns will probably be greater :)03:58
brainiacghosti shouldn't really ask this here, but anyone up for a game of nexuiz?03:58
GreyGhosthey btw... has anyone faced this problem before? .... Ubuntu is working fine and all of a sudden no apps ( a few do though) start up... the starting xyz tab opens and then after sometime disappears ..... Ubuntu didnt even allow me to open console nor shutdown....03:58
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brainiacghostGreyGhost: could have shut down with ctrl + alt + f1 --> log in --> sudo shutnown -s -t now03:59
gnomefreakun_operateur: here is more info on it http://fluxbuntu.org/03:59
un_operateurGreyGhost, CTRL+ALT+F1 -- login -- sudo aptitude install -f    -- to normalize the thing03:59
nolimitsoyaGreyGhost, i have, with kde... numerous times. gtk works fine though. try an x restart03:59
GreyGhostbrainiacghost ,that i didn't know.... and couldn't pop in here cos GAIM nor FF strated up ....03:59
un_operateurgnomefreak, I've been there .. a few months ago -- let me see how its changed03:59
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brainiacghostGreyGhost: well, learn something new every day, now up for nexuiz? :P04:00
GreyGhostbrainiacghost , un_operateur , nolimitsoya ... thanks.... i'll try them out next time i'm able to recreate it...04:00
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GreyGhostbrainiacghost ,don't have it ... :(04:00
brainiacghostGreyGhost: sudo apt-get install nexuiz nexuiz-music04:00
brainiacghostGreyGhost: free game :P04:01
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malikeyelooks impressive for a free entertainment app04:01
brainiacghostmalikeye: what does?04:01
brainiacghostmalikeye: nexuiz?04:01
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malikeyeyeah04:01
brainiacghostmalikeye: wanna play it? :P, i wanna frag j0004:01
GreyGhostbrainiacghost , i would ...i know bout it too... but.... i'm low on bandwidht....04:01
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[swb] I played nexuiz04:02
[swb] its good04:02
brainiacghostGreyGhost: aww04:02
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rc-1hi, my external hard drive isnt being recognized, im sure its plugged in and lsusb says nothing about it, but something happens (someone told me to tail the kernel which says something when i plug it in)04:02
malikeyerc-1: check dmesg04:03
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magic_ninjawhat up04:03
GreyGhostgotta go ...cya all...04:03
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rc-1malikeye, wow thanks!!!! [17770535.068000]  usb 2-1: device descriptor read/64, error -7104:04
curs0rhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=kUWy3GsfE0M04:05
hjmillsim really liking open source software but where can I get some open source hardware?04:05
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malikeyerc-1: what kind of a drive is it ?04:05
nolimitsoyahjmills, intel graphics :)04:05
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rc-1malikeye, its a sata usb drive in an external enclosure04:06
hjmillsnolimitsoya: how is that open source?04:06
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nolimitsoyahjmills, the vanilla x86 is pretty much defacto os as well...'04:06
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malikeyerc-1: what brand though04:06
nolimitsoyahjmills, the specs and drivers are there :) just roll your own04:06
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surfbuddywhats the diff btw alternate CD and desktop CD04:06
surfbuddy?04:06
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nolimitsoyasurfbuddy, the install is a live system and the alternate is cli04:07
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rc-1malikeye, the case is azio, and the hard drive i cant remember but let me see if newegg kept a log of what brand hold on, and THANKS so much i really need stuff on this hd04:07
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X_[Serenade] _XWow... that video is awesome... my friend used to use Compiz04:07
kokihey guys is there a driver for ATI Radeon 9200 ?04:07
nolimitsoyakoki, fglrx?04:08
Vivoranyone understand the upstart thing? how can I stop the startup of some services at boot time using upstart.. I used to do this  using sysvinit  ???04:08
kokiyeah, but that one doesnt support fully my monitor04:08
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malikeyerc-1: the drive is irrelevant04:08
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surfbuddynolimitsoya , cli ??04:08
malikeyerc-1: well, it might be :)04:08
nolimitsoyasurfbuddy, command line interface04:08
rc-1malikeye,  Western Digital Caviar RE2 WD5000YS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM04:08
ootputhi ladies and gents. How do I go about configuring multiple soundcards for gnome on edgy?04:08
whyameyeI want to write to a socket but apparently ubuntu has /dev/tcp disabled? Is there a way around this?04:09
nolimitsoyasurfbuddy, if you want to try things out before installing, getthe desktop. if you just want to install, get the alternate04:09
Vivoranyone understand the upstart thing? how can I stop the startup of some services at boot time using upstart.. I used to do this  using sysvinit  ???04:09
ootputi have a soundcard connected to a speaker set, and the other to a headphone unit04:09
malikeyerc-1: that's probably not the problem.. it's probably the chipset on the controller of enclosure04:09
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rc-1malikeye, i was moving it, and my gf might have bumped it not sure04:09
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malikeyeoh, it worked before ?04:09
rc-1malikeye, it worked yesterday04:09
malikeyehmm04:09
Vivoranyone understand the upstart thing? how can I stop the startup of some services at boot time using upstart.. I used to do this  using sysvinit  ???04:09
surfbuddynolimitsoya, u dint mention whats a desktop CD is ?04:09
nolimitsoya!upstart | Vivor04:10
ubotuVivor: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/04:10
nolimitsoyasurfbuddy, yes i did. its a live system04:10
malikeyerc-1: have you rebooted since ? is anything but data on this drive ?04:11
surfbuddynolimitsoya, well u wrote the install is a live system.. is install=desktop ?04:11
malikeyerc-1: powercycle the enclosure ?04:11
malikeyeit might just be stuck on a sector04:11
rc-1malikeye, yes, tried rebooting, how do i powercycle04:11
nolimitsoyasurfbuddy, right you are... should have been 'desktop install'04:11
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malikeyehmm.. if you rebooted, it probably powered down the drive04:11
malikeyerc-1: is it usb powered only ?04:12
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rc-1malikeye, nope takes wall outlet converted for power, but i tired multiple ones including the one my comp is using04:12
malikeyerc-1: ok, so it's been powered up since ?04:12
surfbuddynolimitsoya, so now what does the live system really do ? is it not possible to install via a live system ?04:12
malikeyerc-1: keep in mind, that if you didn't back your data up and you power this thing down and it dies... I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE! :)04:13
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rc-1malikeye, it powers up and the drive sounds like its running04:13
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surfbuddynolimitsoya, whats the command do that ? ( is it from shell ? )04:13
tannerldcan one upload folders using the scp command?04:13
rc-1malikeye, yeah no backup :((((((04:13
nolimitsoyasurfbuddy, yes it is. it is, as i said, on option for testing things before installing. youll boot into somthing almost identical to an installed system. the cli is just a cli install wizard04:13
x-r00t-xwhere is sources.list locate at ?04:13
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malikeyerc-1: any clicking or anything ?04:13
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malikeyedid she drop it or just bump it ?04:14
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nolimitsoyasurfbuddy, that is, its possible to install from the live system04:14
surfbuddynolimitsoya, and the command to install ?04:14
Vivorthe link does not explain how I can stop services from starting at boot time .. how do u do it on edgy ?04:14
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rc-1malikeye, nope sounds exactly same as when it was working, i tried using live cd too but that didnt work either04:14
malikeyehmm04:14
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x-r00t-xmalikeye, can you tell me where is sources.list locate at?04:14
galois-would anyone consider ubuntu girlfriend proof?04:14
flossgeekx-rOOt-x: /etc/apt/sources.list04:14
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x-r00t-xtnx04:14
surfbuddynolimitsoya, in knoppix it would have been knoppix-installer from the bash ?04:15
nolimitsoyasurfbuddy, please dont type out yes/no questions one after another. by the time ive awnsered one youll be on the next, and thingsll get confused04:15
rc-1galois-, my gf is computer illiterate and she says ubuntu easier than xp04:15
malikeyerc-1: can you pastebin your dmesg ?04:15
Vivorthe link does not explain how I can stop services from starting at boot time .. how do u do it on edgy ?04:15
rc-1malikeye, sure :) 1 sec04:15
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malikeyerc-1: did she drop it ? or just bump it ?04:15
[swb] galois-, my girlfriend uses it no probs04:15
galois-rc-1: good answer :)04:15
[swb] even on a really crappy with fluxbox04:15
galois-[swb] : thanks04:15
[swb] +computer04:15
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surfbuddynolimitsoya !!!! u arent reading my question properly.. and for ur reference it was your lines that confused me !04:15
Vivorhow do u stop some services from starting at boot time ??????04:16
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rc-1malikeye, i had put it in the clothes hamper for padding, and she didnt know, and she set it down sorta hard04:16
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malikeyerc-1: where there clothes in the hamper ?04:16
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malikeyes/where/were/04:16
galois-going to have a go at changing from win2k to linux after christmas, but will need to get TV, wifi, etc working enough that she can use without problems04:16
root_fuckheads04:16
root_whatup04:16
Vivorhow do u stop some services from starting at boot time ??????04:16
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nolimitsoyasurfbuddy, you are on your own04:17
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rc-1malikeye, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/84424104:17
Dr_Fate_rot?04:17
flossgeekVivor: you could use BUM04:17
rc-1malikeye, yes04:17
Dr_Fate_root04:17
hjmillssurfbuddy: when you boot the live system there is a shortcut on the desktop called install - double click that to run the installer04:17
malikeyerc-1: ok04:17
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VivorBUM does ot list all the servces.. such as ssh service04:17
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surfbuddyhjmills, purfect.. !thanks..04:17
malikeyerc-1: so, the drive just doesn't show up, right ?04:17
malikeyein /dev04:18
[swb] my BUM lists all the services :D04:18
malikeyeyeah, cause lsusb is blank04:18
malikeyehmmm04:18
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Vivorbasicly, I need to stop the ssh service from starting at boot time.. any ideas ?????04:18
rc-1malikeye, yes listhw and listusb give the same answers when its on, or off04:18
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malikeyerc-1: did you take it apart and reconnect all the connections ?04:18
sharperguyIs there an online tutorial or resource to help making and packaging themes for ubuntu (ie: gtk themes, wallpapers, usplash themes, gdm themes, gnome splash's)?04:18
surfbuddynolimitsoya, learn to read ;)04:18
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TheAspVivor: why would you want to do that?04:19
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VivorTheAsp: i have reasons. but how to do it04:20
finndoes anybody know what I need to have running in order to get a popup for the pin when I try to pair bluetooth devices under ubuntu??04:20
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rc-1galois-, my friends laptop works fine with wifi and tv, he says it was easy ::)04:20
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finnI start  hidd --search and the device is found, but I don't get the popup for confirming the pin on the computer after hitting enter04:20
[swb] Vivor update-rc.d script name purge04:20
TheAspVivor: update-rc.d -f ssh remove04:20
[swb] perhaps04:20
finnit worked once and had a popup displayed in fbpanel04:20
rc-1malikeye, no, not yet, you reccomend that?04:20
[swb] oh04:20
[swb] well04:20
galois-rc-1: the good news keeps coming - last tried this with debian a couple of years ago and it was a nightmare :)04:21
TheAspVivor: the trick is how do you add it again04:21
finnis there something I need to have running in order to get the popup?04:21
Vivorthanx04:21
malikeyerc-1: yes.. it usually never hurts04:21
Vivorhow to return it back ?04:21
superkirbyartistIssues with iMac monitor.04:21
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rc-1galois-, apparently wireless and media support are a big thing in the next version, so things can only get better!04:21
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Vivorthanx04:22
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galois-rc-1: next ubuntu or debian?04:22
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tannerldcan one upload folders using the scp command?04:22
rc-1galois-, ubuntu, it will be named feisty fawn04:22
rc-1galois-, it will also have composite by default04:23
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galois-rc-1: for me wifi support is fairly key as all internet access is over wifi - need to physically move computer to get cat504:23
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malikeyerc-1: if that doesn't work... I really dunno what to tell you... google isn't really helping04:23
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sharperguyIs there an online tutorial or resource to help making and packaging themes for ubuntu (ie: gtk themes, wallpapers, usplash themes, gdm themes, gnome splash's)?04:24
rc-1malikeye, well at least i have an error code to work with! thanx so much04:24
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Kingsqueaktannerld: 'scp -r dir/'  does recursive copy04:24
malikeyerc-1: that's what I am googling :)04:24
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un_operateursharperguy, you could always "reverse-engineer" some of the themes found on gnome-look.org04:24
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sharperguyThere not exactly packaged04:25
Kingsqueaktannerld: also in nautilus (file browser) if you do a go -> Location , you can do  ssh://user@host  and use drag and drop of folders04:25
sharperguyI was meaning like making debs for them04:25
un_operateursharperguy, IIRC you download the ones from gnome-look.org as tar.gz or tar.bz204:25
tannerldKingsqueak: really, heh. let me try that04:25
jengc0iloot@myUbuntu-b0x:/var# php04:25
jengc0ilPHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php5/20051025/mysql.so' - /usr/lib/php5/20051025/mysql.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in Unknown on line 004:25
jengc0il?04:25
Kingsqueaktannerld: you can also 'bookmark' that host once you connect04:25
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un_operateurjengc0il, you need the php-mysql package04:26
malikeyerc-1: same usb port and all that ?04:26
sharperguyun_operateur, i would like to make debs for them04:26
tannerldKingsqueak: neat; thanks04:26
rc-1malikeye, tried all on my pc04:26
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malikeyehmmm04:26
juanoun_operateur:  i fixed yesterdays issue04:27
juanofinally04:27
un_operateursharperguy, you definitely can -- all .debs are are the same things basically only that they have rules to use for debian and a few executable scripts04:27
un_operateurjuano, you did? yeeaaay!! :d04:27
juanoyeaap!04:27
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juanoi had to add hotmail.com and msn.com in my search domains on the ubuntu PC04:27
malikeyeNontitle: can I help you ?04:27
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juanofinally the XP machine had msn lol04:28
rc-1does anyone know what this means? tried google: device descriptor read/64, error -71 (happens when i plug my usb drive in, and lsusb doesnt recognize it)04:28
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Nontitleno, i'm just checking my ping04:28
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cuencaHey pal, I need some help about my sound card on a latitude 120L dell... I can't do my microphone start :(04:28
malikeyerc-1: you didn't change like noapic or anything in grub right ?04:28
butterflywifemayJust thought i would say MARRY XMAS ADAY EARLY!04:29
Nontitleyay! presents!04:29
Nontitlemeh04:29
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x-r00t-xlol butterflywifemay . marry xmas.04:29
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flossgeekcuenca: have u ran alsamixer and checked your settings?04:30
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rc-1malikeye, no, but there was that kernel update (hadnt used this pc since then)04:30
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malikeyerc-1: hmm.....04:30
rc-1have no clue what that did04:30
butterflywifemaywell if you want to make a new friend my gim is the_wifeof_bdg@yahoo.com04:30
malikeyerc-1: that might be something04:30
cuencaflossgeek> yep! but, i can't use a skype or another program like it.... and.. I can't record some sound!04:30
malikeyecan you boot into the backup / previous kernel ?04:30
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x-r00t-xmalikeye, can you tell me how do i add color on apt? like LS04:31
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malikeyex-r00t-x: you mean apt output ? as in aptitude install and such ?04:31
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flossgeekcuenca:do you hear sound?04:31
Nontitleyou can d othat?04:31
rc-1malikeye, ok ill try that :) rebooting04:31
x-r00t-xyes malikeye04:31
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malikeyex-r00t-x: never heard of it04:31
x-r00t-xhmm ok malikeye04:32
malikeyex-r00t-x: have you seen it before ? or just asking ? :)04:32
cuencayep... i can hear..04:32
hjmillsis it possible to get my pc to take any input from a microphone, subtract the audio and convert it to words to send over jabber then read the reply?04:32
x-r00t-xmalikeye, nope . just wondering04:32
un_operateurx-r00t-x, should be possible if you write a filter for aptitude -- parse the aptitude output using a script and add the ANSI sequences of your choice04:32
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flossgeekcuenca: May I pm you04:33
ken0I am having Train-Signal's Linux training CD. But the point is, it runs as a *.exe. I installed WINE, and what i do now is double-click the *.exe, and choose WINE to open it. A flash player opens, but when i select a link (which points to a *.wmv) nothing happens. So how do i configure WINE to use the VLC media player, to play the files in that link? I am confused...how will the videos work? I mean a short flash intro with various links loads up and than nothin04:33
ken0g works.04:33
x-r00t-xun_operateur, can you write one for me. plesae :)04:33
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cuencayep!04:33
un_operateurx-r00t-x, but debian users dont really fancy colours and eye-candy -- so thats why they dont have it04:33
Nontitleare dapper repositories not supported anymore or something?04:33
un_operateurx-r00t-x, i can give you the algorithm for it ig you write it :)04:33
x-r00t-xoh04:33
un_operateurif*04:33
x-r00t-xcool . i love to04:34
un_operateurx-r00t-x, do you program?04:34
x-r00t-xyes i do04:34
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un_operateurx-r00t-x, what language(s)?04:34
b0ss_who doesnt programm now adays.04:34
flossgeekcuenca: you not get my pm are you joined?04:34
esti2577hai04:35
x-r00t-xun_operateur, such as vb , php , javascripts , lil bit C++04:35
ken0Can someone please look into my question?04:35
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cuencaHmm mwhat is pm??? (don't lath!!!! ;-) )04:35
flossgeekprivate msg ;-)04:35
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un_operateurx-r00t-x, the two that'll work here are php (might not work as good) and C++04:35
ken0someone?04:36
morpheus74Hello. I want to install PHP on my local machine using Ubuntu.  Do I have to install Apache first?04:36
des1ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo e2label /dev/sda104:36
des1e2label: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sda104:36
des1Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock.04:36
des1ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo e2label /dev/sda104:36
des1e2label: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sda104:36
des1Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock.04:36
cuencaThere are everyone who speak portuguese???04:36
un_operateur!paste | des104:36
mormolochow can i mount a primary fat32 partition on my buntu OS?04:36
ubotudes1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:36
esti2577hai ken004:36
x-r00t-xun_operateur, what about c++ ?04:36
b0ss_morpheus74: there are packages like WAMP that comes with all 304:36
un_operateurmorpheus74, IIRC php no longer depends on apache to be installed04:36
des1sorry04:36
x-r00t-xun_operateur,  if you write the scripts . its will be great for me :(04:36
ken0hi, i got a question, if someone can look into it i would be much obliged04:36
juanoken004:37
b0ss_ken0: shoot.04:37
un_operateurx-r00t-x, ok first tell me, what aspect of aptitude would you like to colour -- give me an example?04:37
morpheus74Thanks all.04:37
b0ss_welcome04:37
finnanybody have experience with bluetooth?04:37
ken0 I am having Train-Signal's Linux training CD. But the point is, it runs as a *.exe. I installed WINE, and what i do now is double-click the *.exe, and choose WINE to open it. A flash player opens, but when i select a link (which points to a *.wmv) nothing happens. So how do i configure WINE to use the VLC media player, to play the files in that link? I am confused...how will the videos work? I mean a short flash intro with various links loads up and than nothin04:37
ken0<ken0> g works.04:37
morpheus74b0ss_: Can I find WAMP in apt-get?04:37
des1but i cant access the usb hd even with casper cow commands04:37
b0ss_try04:37
b0ss_apt-cache search04:37
b0ss_first04:37
morpheus74ok.04:38
ken0juano, b0ss_: i put up the question above04:38
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juanoken0: you want to open a video with wine?04:38
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x-r00t-xun_operateur, umm i just wanna make colorful apt output04:38
ken0juano: No i simply want to run that tutorial cd.04:38
flossgeekcuenca: ah do you not understand english very well04:38
juanoopen up a console, type wine *.exe04:38
ken0juano, If that in someway implies that WINE would have to open a *.wmv file, than what should i do? and how will wine work?04:38
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un_operateurx-r00t-x, well, let me see what i can come up with in 5 minutes04:39
juanoelse type winecfg in console04:39
b0ss_ken0: are yourlooking to runt he .wmv or you want wine and vlc to do it because you know mmplayer can handle anything..04:39
juanoyou can configure wine a bit04:39
des1anyone to help me ?04:39
x-r00t-xun_operateur,  :) thank you04:39
Nontitleare dapper repositories still supported?04:39
b0ss_des1: shoot.04:39
flossgeekNontitle: yes04:39
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Nontitlei haven't gotten an update in about a month04:39
rc-1malikeye, oh GOD this might be unrelated but  when i rebooted fsk said : /dev/sda2/ has been mounted 30 times without check, forcing check.  wait..... which FAILED and said *has corrected errors in the root filesystem but (then cut off before i could read rest)04:39
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malikeyehuh ?04:40
ken0b0ss_, Sir, i dont get your question, what i essentially want to do is play that tutorial CD. but on navigating the dir i found that it had some *.wmv files, so how will wine work opening those?04:40
des1I want to install ubuntu on external Hd on laptop pc04:40
cuencaFlossgeek: i can understand some things.. bua not all! ;-)04:40
malikeyethe 30 x check is ok04:40
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malikeyeyou are on that box now ?04:40
b0ss_O04:40
des1I cant access the bios04:40
b0ss_im srry i misread04:40
juanokeno: get crossover office04:41
juanoken004:41
b0ss_des1: pop in the live cd.04:41
juanothats the best for windows apps04:41
flossgeekNonTitle: I think you should of had some, check your settings System>Admin>Software Sources04:41
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maxsofthi all. I0ve 49 updates but when I click on InstallUpdates doent works. It sems check updates but doesnt install its. can you help me?04:41
malikeyerc-1: ?04:41
des1iam runing it now04:41
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ryananyone know how to convert ipod video to divx?04:41
rc-1malikeye, apprently somethings wrong with my root filesystem04:41
ken0juano, that is non-free software, i might as well go back to m$ win04:41
b0ss_des1: click intall ubuntu04:42
malikeyerc-1: are you on that box now ?04:42
juanohehe :)04:42
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juanotheres always P2P04:42
eugmanI have an error in my mailcap ile. What does that mean and what can I do?04:42
rc-1malikeye, yup, could that be reason for the usb fail?04:42
des1ok04:42
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malikeyerc-1: dunno... you trying to solve too many things at once04:42
des1language .....04:42
malikeyerc-1: you are on the box that fsck'd and it's running fine ?04:42
T1ken0: if you want to play wmv's you need to install the win32 codecs04:42
rc-1malikeye, yup04:43
grimboy_ukCan anyone tell me what format liveice takes playlists in?04:43
grimboy_uk!liveice04:43
malikeyerc-1: don't worry about that now then04:43
ubotuliveice: Live audio streaming application. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0-2 (edgy), package size 52 kB, installed size 208 kB04:43
malikeyedo you see the usb drive ?04:43
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des1keyboard lyot04:43
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b0ss_yes04:43
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des1who r u ?04:43
rc-1malikeye, nope, and it was that way when i was still using the usb now that i think of it04:43
ken0T1, But i play them through VLC, moreover will WINE now that to play *.wmv, it has to open the respective Ubuntu media player or something of that sort?04:43
malikeyerc-1: huh ?04:44
des1select a disk04:44
b0ss_yes04:44
MartiiniI want to connect win.xp  to kubuntu with crossover lan cable .. how do I do that?  I have samba installed etc04:44
rc-1malikeye, ever since i had power outage one night its had some error whenever i log in (/home/drmc/ may be ignored)04:44
saxinWhere can I find an overview over the date and names of the versions of Ubuntu?04:44
des1it mark my Hd with 40Gb04:44
malikeyerc-1: ok, so the fsck was kinda expected ?04:44
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b0ss_so 40 gb04:44
T1ken0: i still need a bit of clarifying, theres an exe file on the disk, that lanuches wmv's? or does it embed the wmv's?04:44
des1and there is the other Hd that i want to install on04:44
ZoffixHi, is it possible for make Ubuntu log in automatically? Basically I want to VCN into it after the reboot but it seems that I need it to be logged on in order to do that and switching Monitor/keyboard/mouse every time doesn't really work for me. Any suggestions?04:44
rc-1malikeye, yeah04:45
malikeyeok04:45
des1its 250 Gb04:45
malikeyerc-1: dmesg == same ?04:45
b0ss_click the  2 5004:45
ken0T1,  I am having Train-Signal's Linux training CD. But the point is, it runs as a *.exe. I installed WINE, and what i do now is double-click the *.exe, and choose WINE to open it. A flash player opens, but when i select a link (which points to a *.wmv) nothing happens. So how do i configure WINE to use the VLC media player, to play the files in that link? I am confused...how will the videos work? I mean a short flash intro with various links loads up and than n04:45
ken0othin04:45
ken0<ken0> <ken0> g works.04:45
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des1dev/sda/SCSI104:45
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des1ok04:46
des1forward ?04:46
manmadhahi04:46
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juanowine is pretty nasty by its self.. i cant get itunes to read my motorola rokr04:46
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finndoes anybody know what I need to have running in order to get the popup when I pair a keyboard via bluetooth?04:46
rc-1theres a second error message in bottom: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/84424904:46
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des1should i resize SCSI04:47
T1ken0: hmmm04:47
andohHey.. I need some help. Heh heh. I'm trying to install the nVidia drivers that they give on the nvidia website and I can't because it's complaining about X11 running. How do I shut off X11 so I can run the damn install script?04:47
des1or erease entire disk04:47
malikeyerc-1: man... I dunno what to tell you04:47
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des1or edit maneual04:47
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malikeyerc-1: I need to go do some last minute xmas crap now, but I'll be back later if you still need help.....04:47
rc-1malikeye, np, thanks for being really helpful, ill just wait til i can try putting it in my friends computer04:48
b0ss_uhh04:48
des1Boss04:48
malikeyerc-1: I would boot back into the new kernel again, but that is just me04:48
b0ss_erase entire disk04:48
des1what04:48
b0ss_and u  have scuzzy04:48
des1ok04:48
b0ss_thats hot04:48
b0ss_yes04:48
b0ss_erase entire 25004:48
b0ss_format the bitch04:48
POVaddct!enter04:48
des1ok now what install04:48
ubotuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!04:48
juanolol04:48
des1?04:48
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T1ken0: cant you just open the wmv's directly04:49
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des1GRUB will be install to hd004:49
andohHurm.04:49
des1is it right04:49
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b0ss_yes04:49
ken0T1, the whole tutorial thingy is organised, so i want to take the whole course. Not just browse the CD's dir and hunt and peck videos to watch, Is there any way i may be able to achieve it?04:49
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andohCan anyone tell me how to turn off X11 and keep it off? I can kill the process, but it just pops back up.04:50
des1tell me that its gonna work boss04:50
Zoffixandoh: I'm pretty knew to this stuff, however click "System->Administration->Services" and you can select there that the box will not start X automatically "Graphic Logons" or something is what you need. However might try to just press ALT+CTRL+F2 and login there in the shell and try to run your script (and then ALT+F7 to go back to X)04:50
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des1i give you 500 kiss04:50
T1ken0: ill have a look04:50
b0ss_des1: its been a while sinc ei installed ubuntu04:50
andohI'04:50
b0ss_but try it04:50
andohI'll try that.04:50
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b0ss_ubuntu will install someplace04:50
andohThank you Zoffix.04:50
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T1ken0: could you email me a sample of it plz? tomjamesgillespie@googlemail.com04:50
des1I think it is the right way04:50
b0ss_most likly if hd 004:50
b0ss_is your 25004:50
b0ss_and hd1 is your 4004:50
ken0T1, samle of what?04:50
b0ss_yes04:50
x-r00t-xun_operateur, you there?04:51
LjL!enter | b0ss_04:51
ubotub0ss_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!04:51
des1I didint came so long with GRUB04:51
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ken0b0ss_, The 'space04:51
ken0 b0ss_ The SPACE key was made for a reason, guess what?04:51
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des1should i make boot cd now with the GRUB04:51
un_operateurx-r00t-x, yes04:51
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x-r00t-xun_operateur,  are you working on it ?04:51
un_operateurx-r00t-x, it's coming along :)04:52
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x-r00t-x:)04:52
robdemanhey gang, what is the default Bittorrent client that Ubuntu uses?04:52
curs0rsuccess! i've made a kludgy hack of the gnome-dock(cairo-dock) prerelease that was on trac. they didn't think they should let you change the icons, now you can. i can fit 25 on my screen lol04:52
T1ken0: just one of the exe's, with a wmv it should play please04:52
robdemanI just cliocked a .torrent file and it downloads without having Azerues or some sort ofr client installed?04:52
ken0robdeman,  the default bittorent client is the default bittorent client in ubuntu04:52
robdemanhas Ubuntu some kind of buil-tin Bittorrent client?04:53
ken0robdeman, that makes sense try re-reading it04:53
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b0ss_des1: go for it it should install04:53
robdemanken0: is there any central place of control for thes etransfers?04:53
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ken0robdeman, what transfers?04:53
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des1its installing04:53
ken0T1, this whole CD is a 610MB ISO, what do you want?04:53
robdemanken0: I mean Azereus has a couple of views, like all active transfers, total progress etc04:53
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ken0robdeman, no this is plain vanilla client04:54
earthenanyone know how i can change my refresh rate04:54
robdemankeno: with the default client its sort of abacradabra after opening .torrent numero #5004:54
robdemanok04:54
des1I should boot direct now from the extern Hd04:54
robdemankan9: it seems to work much faster than Azerues though.04:54
ken0earthen, thats a million dollar question, if you cant get it in the drop down in System>preferences>resolution04:54
T1ken0: well is there a link to download it on the net?04:54
des1faild to creat file system04:54
timo901you ,can do that boot from external hard drive04:54
des1error04:54
ken0T1, you want a 610MB ISO (pirated) to be downloaded from the net, that doesn't work in ubuntu? :)04:55
earthenken0, LOL no i can't sorry if I could I'd not be here asking LOL04:55
des1installation closed04:55
ken0robdeman, faster? thats a potentially false statement04:55
T1ken0: if not just run it from a terminal and put the output when you click the link in the pastebin04:55
earthenken0, it's stuck on 75  and I have LCD's so it should be only 6004:55
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jengc0ilhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38670/04:56
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ken0earthen, please re-phrase04:56
robdemanken0: potentially yes. it seems o work faster though.Azerues tends to halt and chocke on certain files04:56
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earthenken0, I've been looking through the xorg.conf and I don;t see anything offhand that sugests the refreshrate04:56
ken0T1, how do i run a *.exe in a terminal?04:56
jengc0il?04:56
ken0earthen, LCDs dont have refresh rates!!!04:57
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T1ken0: just "wine *.exe"04:57
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ken0robdeman, Azu* is a resource hog, and should never be used04:57
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ken0T1, ok let me try04:57
T1ken0: thnx04:57
robdemanken0: what would you advise if I want to have some centralized gui not the plain BitTorrent client?04:58
earthenken0, yeah I know but ubuntu seems to think it does because now I am getting lines going down my screen04:58
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robdemankeno: it gives me no control on bandwith usage etc04:58
AfiefIs there a way to downgrade from Edgy to Dapper?04:58
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ken0robdeman, I would go for bittornado04:58
robdemanok04:59
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robdemanlet me try that one04:59
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earthenken0, witch I didn't  before I ungraded my video driver and it put a refresh-rate of 7504:59
ken0robdeman, choices with regard to torrent clients for GNOME is extremely limited, that will be a potential reason when i shift to Windows in the near future04:59
robdemanken0: uhm really?04:59
ken0robdeman, Absolutely yes!!!04:59
robdemanken0: i sort of asumed Gnome would offer tons of BitTorrent stuff04:59
T1ken0: dont go back to the dark side!04:59
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ken0T1, I got so many negative experiences that there is no way to deal with them on Ubuntu (the linux CD being the one), and moreover viruses never bothered my Windows, so what is the logical conclusion?05:00
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AfiefIs there a way to downgrade from Edgy to Dapper?05:00
ecastroI have a rather easy question (I think!) about ubuntu... I installed 6.10, so... "officially" until 7.04 there will be no feature update to it soft, is this true? just bugfixes?!05:00
SilenceGoldhaving problems getting a direct link to ubuntu-6.06.1-dvd-i386.iso05:01
Afiefecastro: pretty much05:01
aileanAfief, no05:01
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T1ken0: but dont you find windows ways slower, buggier, and less stable?05:01
SilenceGoldcan someone else give me a ftp url to that particular file please05:01
Afiefailean: argh!05:01
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ken0robdeman, False assumptions are going to carry you through the initial stage, and than you are going to be left alone looking through horrible config. files to sort the mess, and in the end on ends up getting no work done, and learning how to make the OS work,05:01
aileanAfief, backup and do a clean install05:01
ken0*one05:02
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ken0T1, absolutely not, if you have a decent PC. But why am i advocating for Windows here?05:02
Afiefailean: the problem is my CD drive isn't working, i'd have to install using netboot05:02
ken0:)05:02
dreamlinuxhi i need to install a library file but can't seem to figure out the package i need,,, libtcl.so . can anyone help this Christmas ?05:02
aileanAfief, or get a new CD drive05:02
robdemanken0: well im not intrested in learning too much about either Windows or Linux05:02
aileanAfief, or mount the image on your hdd and boot from that05:02
robdemanI just need to get work done05:02
Afiefailean: do you know if there is a way to get the wireless network to work on ubuntu?05:03
ecastroso, now the question is... how can, without breaking up everything, keep up to date with some packages (or even use some beta soft as the latest devel version of the gimp)? What i mean is, keep most of the system "sane" with the official packages but upgrade some especific, no crititcal, packages05:03
aileanAfief, i know there is, yes05:03
T1ken0: lol well i couldnt possibly go back now ive discovered beryl :-D. Ahhhhhhhhhhh05:03
derFloi need a binary news grabber for usenet downloading05:03
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aileanAfief, how? i don't know05:03
ailean!wi-fi05:03
POVaddctken0: i don't know this train-signal thing, but they must be pretty braindead distributing a "linux" cd that has only .exe and .wmv files on it05:03
ken0robdeman, A OS should 'just' work, and let you concenterate on your work, but i think linux makes me concenterate more on making it work05:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wi-fi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:03
jengc0ilhello05:03
andohdangit.05:03
Afiefailean: could you guide me to some how-to? i am using one of those intel centrino ipw220005:03
andohhas anyone tried to install the nvidia drivers from the nvidia website at all?05:03
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ken0T1, eye candy is not a thing to consider when someone wants to get some GODDAMN work done05:03
SilenceGoldcan someone else me get this DVD image of ubuntu on a ftp?05:04
SurgeXIntel centrino I got one my wirless works05:04
aileanAfief, sorry, I'd be searching the same as you. Google is your friend05:04
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T1ecastro: just uninstall the ubuntu package, then compile from source, possibly using checkinstall05:04
ken0POVaddct, whatever you say, but assuming the mass-market is still windows dominated no one would install linux to just watch that cd05:04
||arifaXandoh: yep what should not work?05:04
LjLUbotu, tell dreamlinux about apt-file | dreamlinux, see the private message from Ubotu05:04
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POVaddctken0: well, its your choice05:04
LjLdreamlinux: anyway, i bet on libtcl8.4-dev05:04
ken0T1, What had you asked me to do through WINE?05:04
andohWell, it's saying it can't find the kernel source tree.05:04
LjLwell or 8.5 even05:04
T1ken0: lol work on a computer heehee05:04
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andohand i know i installed it.05:04
earthenailean, didnyou have anyproblem installing beryl? I've installed looking glass and it seems to be running ok if not a little slow and I can only seem to run it from a window05:04
aileanAfief, if you have a friend with an external USB cd drive, you could borrow it05:04
aileanearthen, no, it runs fine05:05
T1keno0: just wine *.exe, then send me the console output when you try to open the wmv05:05
Afiefailean, unfortunatly most people here are very tech illiterate05:05
||arifaXandoh: the setup tries to build kernel modules during setup, thererfore you need the kernel sources and some other stuff installed before05:05
ken0T1, thats the only thing i cant do at present, i can edit all sort of conf files but not do any GODDAMN work05:05
tussilagoHow do I install ubuntu without starting up a live CD session?05:05
aileanAfief, where?05:05
ecastroT1: no, thats not possible, i want to use binary packages and that doesnt break the packaging system, i want to do everything from inside synaptic05:05
earthenailean, is there a repo for it?05:05
andohlike what?05:05
ken0tussilago, : alternate CD05:05
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ken0!alternate cd05:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about alternate cd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:05
aileanearthen, for beryl? yes05:05
LjL!alternate cd is <alias> alternate05:05
ubotuI'll remember that, LjL05:05
LjL!alternate05:05
ubotuThe Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.05:05
Afiefailean: a little village in central israel. the problem is that wifi used to work on dapper05:05
aileanubotu, tell earthen about beryl05:05
tussilagoken0: ok, thanks.05:05
earthenailean, oo cool you would want to pass me that info would ya05:06
dreamlinuxLjL, apt-get reports i can not find that package.05:06
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T1ecastro: not unless theres an unofficial repo, checkinstall will make a deb out of it though so you could uninstall from synaptic05:06
aileanAfief, that's very strange - have you filed a bug?05:06
ken0tussilago, please be cautious while entering linux theres a lot of work ahead to get your work done, and switching a OS is a mind boggling experience05:06
LjLdreamlinux: are you on dapper, edgy...?05:06
aileanearthen, http://www.beryl-project.org/ - follow the how-to in the wiki05:06
dreamlinuxnope, but it's a devian based os05:06
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SurgeX!xgl05:06
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems05:06
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POVaddctken0: and btw, if problems occur, the average mass market consumer cannot solve them either on windows or linux. people are just too lazy/dumb/ignorant/whatever. and yes, i use linux to get my work done, not just because it is linux.05:07
ecastroT1 but there isnt official repos for things like devel version of the gimp? or the latest gnome version?05:07
LjLdreamlinux: err... this channel is for ubuntu support ;) the fact that it's debian-based doesn't mean it has the same packages, or that they're named the same way05:07
tussilagoken0: don't worry, I know what linux is. In fact, I'm running gentoo on my main computer right now, and have been doing this for almost a year now :)05:07
aileanearthen, http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install/Ubuntu05:07
Afiefailean: yes, some time ago, but no change was made to it05:07
ken0tussilago, If only i could say the same thing, this OS is frustrating me to death05:07
T1ecastro: then the only way is to install from source using checkinstall05:07
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aileanAfief, I'm sorry - I'm still wired in...05:08
T1ecastro: or upgrade to feisty :-P lol05:08
x-r00t-xun_operateur, how is it going on?05:08
timo901how do i change resolutions its 1024X768 at the moment, i have a 19"05:08
tussilagoheh, well it does that to me too sometimes, but then again so does both windows and mac OS05:08
ken0POVaddct, When the work is simplistic in nature it works like a flair, but when things start getting a little complex, linux needs a hell a lot of configuration that no-one is going to take the time and do05:08
LjLUbotu, tell timo901 about fixres | timo901, see the private message from Ubotu05:08
x-r00t-xLjL,  can you take a look at this http://pastebin.com/84425605:08
ken0LjL: could you do me a favour?05:08
timo901!fixres05:08
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:08
LjLmaybe05:08
ken0LjL: Can you ban Ubuntu from booting up on my computer?05:09
LjLken0: ...?05:09
n2diytest05:09
ken0LjL: You read it right05:09
Afiefailean no problem. but that's really an annoying bug...05:09
n2diyubotu nick05:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nick - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:09
POVaddctken0: thats mostly because of some hardware manufacturers simply ignoring linux and not supporting the open source developers. or ever worse, actively working against open source drivers for their hardware.05:09
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n2diyubotu nickname05:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nickname - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:09
un_operateurx-r00t-x, well, here's the first prototype -- it only colours "aptitude search <package>"  -  http://pastebin.ca/29095105:09
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LjLx-r00t-x: what's the problem?05:09
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aileanAfief, it may just not be correctly configured. but i'm sorry, i'm not the person to ask05:09
POVaddctken0: so complain to the hardware industry05:09
LjL!msg the bot | n2diy05:10
ubotun2diy: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...05:10
LjLken0: you mean remove ubuntu and make sure windows starts?05:10
andohHas anyone else tried to install the nvidia drivers from the nvidia website with any amount of success?05:10
x-r00t-xLjL,  i deleted duplicate source . and i did i deleted something else ?05:10
n2diy?05:10
ken0POVaddct, thats all correct, the GNU/FSF philospohy and that stuff, but in the end i CANT GET WORK DONE. Who is ending frustrated at the end of the day? Whose work is not done at the end of the day?05:10
POVaddctken0: they are hiding behind patents and licenses and whatnot05:10
un_operateurx-r00t-x, save it -- chmod +x -- and run it like this -- ./file search apache05:10
ken0LjL: Yeah, this had been such a dissapointing experience05:10
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n2diyLjL, I trying to figure out how to change my name as it appears here?05:10
LjLx-r00t-x, you're missing a couple of repositories that you probably should keep enabled. anyway, much easier to just use05:10
ken0*has05:10
LjLUbotu, tell x-r00t-x about source-o-matic | x-r00t-x, see the private message from Ubotu05:10
LjLn2diy: /nick newnickname05:11
aileanken0, i can get work done - why are you different to me?05:11
n2diytest05:11
jpjacobsn2diy, it workd05:11
aileanken0, and i'm no expert05:11
jpjacobss*05:11
n2diyjpjacobs: it did?05:11
ken0ailean, thats because i simply got to run things like tutorial cds AND the general stuff, without going through the bother of booting up multiple OSs05:11
flossgeekHey min machine works fine too ;-)05:12
n2diyjpjacobs: I'm not seeing it here?05:12
aileanken0, you're trying to run Windows tutorial CDs?05:12
flossgeekits fantastic05:12
ken0LjL: please kick me from this room NOW05:12
LjLken0, i'm not a Windows user, so i don't really know. but basically i think you need to get rid of the Ubuntu partition (can do this at any time) and to install the Windows MBR in the place of Grub. that should be doable from a Windows CD in recovery/console mode i think, 'fixmbr' command or something05:12
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jpjacobsthen there is something wrong with your client05:12
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grimboy_ukDammit. I'm using tovid and I when I encoded this DVD it just did the audio.05:12
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grimboy_ukARGH05:12
T1ken0: dont do it! your too young to die05:13
andohbah i should just reinstall windows.05:13
LjLjpjacobs, he was trying to change his nickname i think05:13
n2diyjbjacobs, so your seeing me as neil now? I'm using xchat.05:13
x-r00t-xun_operateur,  its cool . :)05:13
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LjLn2diy: if you're on moderated channels (or you're muted somewhere), you won't be able to change your nickname05:13
jpjacobsn2diy, nope :)05:14
un_operateurx-r00t-x, well, i hope you get the idea -- now you can build on it and make it better for your use :)05:14
jpjacobsbut i see you're typing :)05:14
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T1andoh: stop saying the "w" word05:14
andohIt got your attention.05:14
andohi need help.05:14
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T1andoh: fire away05:14
jpjacobs!ask > andoh05:14
aileanLjL, wasn't that a reasonable q? Expecting windows progs to work on ubuntu is like trying to hammer a nail with a screwdriver.05:14
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n2diyLjL, are we moderated here? I want to figure this out, so when I'm working on my friends computer, I'll show up as n2diy, and not neil.05:15
LjLandoh, is there a specific reason why you'd want to install them from the nvidia site, rather than use packages?05:15
LjLn2diy: no, we're not. type /mode #channelname, if +m shows up it means it's moderated. but we're not.05:15
x-r00t-xun_operateur, yes but i dont to use ./file search apache05:15
x-r00t-xhow do i do ?05:15
LjLailean, which?05:15
andohT1: I'm trying to install the nvidia drivers from the nvidia website and I'm running into troubles. It wants the kernel source tree and it's installed, but it doesn't see it. I tried to install it from the packages, but it doesn't recognize my geforce 7300 gs.05:15
n2diyLjL: roger that.05:16
un_operateuryes n2diy, your creative linguistics  are very much moderated in here :)05:16
aileanLjL, never mind :)05:16
LjLright, but we're not "moderated" as in "only voiced users can speak"05:16
n2diyun_operateur: ok, umm, thanks?05:16
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finnhow can I manually start bt-applet in order to pair my bluetooth device??05:16
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un_operateurx-r00t-x, sorry -- come again, i dont understand what you mean?05:17
LjLn2diy_: that worked... not sure it's the nick you wanted though05:17
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T1andoh: can you pass extra parameters to the installer to tell it the location of the headers?05:17
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T1/source05:17
andohYeah, but where are they exactly?05:17
DarrylLjL: roger that, looks like I have the hang of it now.05:17
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T1ken0: instead of using that cd just read here https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html05:18
x-r00t-xi mean to say i just wanna use like "search apache" not ./file etc05:18
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T1ken0: thats a tutorial05:18
LjLDarryl: the nick you tried previously was probably already taken. anyway keep in mind you should avoid changing your nickname in this (busy) channel, in general05:18
POVaddctT1: ken0 is gone05:18
T1POVaddct: worth a try lol05:19
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un_operateurx-r00t-x, you are the programmer -- i just gave you a prototype -- it's upto you to change it to how you want it to behave :)05:19
andohT1: What's the directory location of the kernel source?05:19
aileani find these windows users just rude05:19
ryanakcaI suspended my laptop. How do I get back to Xorg/KDE/GNOME?05:19
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x-r00t-xok un_operateur . thank you05:19
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T1andoh: have a look in synaptic under installed files05:19
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T1ailean: too true05:20
Nontitleryanakca: power button05:20
Nontitlewait05:20
Nontitlei believe its the power button05:20
POVaddctailean: especially when they go like: "this and that is not working, fix it for me or i will go back to windows."05:20
ryanakcaNontitle: my laptop makes funny sounds, but nothing else05:20
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Nontitlelike spinning?05:20
aileanPOVaddct, T1, it's ironic - we're supposed to be the rude ones05:21
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un_operateurerrm, to suspend means to put it in a "sleepy state" -- pressing a few keys or moving the mouse ought to bring it back to life05:21
T1ailean: lol i know05:21
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n2diyLjl, roger your last.05:21
shaggsi dual boot my thinkpad how do i reinstall windowz without killing my bootloader ?05:21
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T1ailean, povaddct : their loss lol05:21
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ProN00bwhats the recommended gnutella client for ubuntu ? (package name plox)05:22
Nontitleon my windows box, when i put it in suspend (or stand-by lol) it would completely turn off and the power light would flash05:22
Nontitlethen i could bring it back up by pressing the power button05:22
POVaddctailean: there is a nice t-shirt saying:  "no, i will not fix your windows."05:22
aileanT1, wouldn't say that. they just want a comp that works. windows is the OS for them05:22
NontitleProN00b: my two favourites are gtk-gnutella and limewire05:22
POVaddctailean: it works. until something doesnt work. and then they are as lost as with every other OS.05:22
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shaggsany ideas ?05:23
aileanPOVaddct, i actually gave one of my close friends a row the other day because he was nagging me to fix his friend's laptop.  She got a BSOD and somehow it was my problem...05:23
T1ailean: i dont know, when windows breaks it breaks bad, often beyond repair05:23
aileanT1, i've found that with ubuntu too...05:23
un_operateurshaggs, you let windows do it's thing - and then reinstall grub to accomodate it afterwards05:23
ProN00bNontitle, limewire isn't in the repos05:23
Nontitlethen try gtk-gnutella05:23
Nontitleis your internet fast?05:23
shaggscan i do that from th ubuntu disc05:24
n2diyshaggs: Windows will steal your bootloader, be prepaired to re-install Ubuntu AFTER you install Winders.05:24
kane77Merry Christmas to you all!!05:24
fnord5frostwire is,but i wouldent recomend it for slow machines05:24
T1ailean: well 2bh i have 2, but only with the devel version, i run feisty lol05:24
Nontitlemerry somewhat christmas05:24
kane77were just getting ready for dinner!05:24
aileanPOVaddct, i dual-boot - mainly for online poker and to use my mp3 player, but it has refused to recognise it since it forced me to upgrade to media player 11. grr!05:24
fnord5happy kwanza too kane05:24
ProN00bfnord5, whats frostwires package name ?05:24
un_operateurshaggs, i'm not so sure -- but you can definitely use a grub floppy -- but have a read at this ..05:24
un_operateur!grub | shaggs05:24
ubotushaggs: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto05:24
fnord5not sure i got it out of easy ubuntu so i didint need to know05:24
fnord5!frostwire05:24
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire05:24
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shaggsi dont want to reinstall linux as it took me ages to get my wifi working05:25
ProN00bfrostwire isn't in the repos05:25
kane77And for all the non-christias happy whatever you celebrate!05:25
fnord5!frostwire | ProN00b05:25
ubotuProN00b: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire05:25
POVaddctailean: since 1996 i run linux only05:25
aileanshaggs, didn't you note down how you did it or remember where the instructions were?05:25
un_operateurshaggs, you dont need to reinstall linux .. you just need to reinstall grub as the bootloader05:25
Nontitlelimewire is open-source05:25
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Nontitleit's just not gnu, i believe05:25
aileanPOVaddct, that's a bit extreme. it's only been properly usable for a few years :)05:25
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aileanPOVaddct, but i will not buy vista05:26
POVaddctailean: well when i started with linux, i knew solaris and had some command line knowlegde, so it was not that hard05:26
GreyGhost-Ubuntuguys i want to use fsck .. but can't make sense of it....i want it to check my swap and / partitions on;ly....05:26
shaggsyeah true i have already done it once so i should be able to do it again05:26
T1ailean: lol if you buy vista you gotta buy a new comp by the sound of things05:26
Nontitlevista's main features are "categorized searches" and "the aero experience" im not paying $400 for that!05:26
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shaggsvista still sux05:27
LjL!offtopic05:27
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!05:27
un_operateurshaggs, it's a 2 minute job if you have the right information about your harddrive's layout05:27
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aileanT1, i was readin that - i find it amazing. my comp here is excellent with ubuntu+bling. I have two others - one 4 years old and the other 7. They both run perfectly well with xubuntu05:27
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POVaddctokay, back to ubuntu topics. is espeak avaible as a ubuntu package?05:28
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T1ailean: i know, crazy05:28
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aileanT1,  i don't need a new computer and won't for the next 10 years by the looks of it :D05:28
shaggsmy hard drive could do with a good clean out anyway05:28
T1ailean: ll05:28
T1*lol05:28
LjLGreyGhost-Ubuntu, you must not do that with the relevant partitions mounted. try "sudo touch /forcefsck", i think that will only force it for the root partition (ain't really sure though). for swap, it simply makes no sense to check it05:28
LjLGreyGhost-Ubuntu: if you suspect *hardware* problems on your HD, what you want is smartmontools05:28
un_operateurshaggs, well, then you might as well reinstall both windows and linux ...05:29
cuencahey pal, any one have a Latitude 120L with ubuntu???05:29
shaggsi only need windows for 1 program or i wouldnt bother05:29
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GreyGhost-UbuntuLjL ,oh no ... just making sure i didnt mess up after a force restart .... am i correct to believe that when it started up it auto ran fsck?05:29
andohARRRRRRRRRGH!05:29
LjLGreyGhost-Ubuntu: yes05:30
vonbrunohi all. i've set up virtual domain on apache, added entry to hosts file, now i cannot access anything on the internet - what do i need to check?05:30
un_operateurPOVaddct, espeak exists as 1.15-0ubuntu2 for edgy and feisty05:30
GreyGhost-UbuntuLjL ,and it was a full check?05:30
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LjLGreyGhost-Ubuntu: it always does if it detects that the partition wasn't unmounted cleanly05:30
andohI found the kernel source, put it in. It started to work and then it pooped out. What damn libs do I need to get this damn nvidia thing to work?05:30
Nontitlei have found all my alternatives on ubuntu and i am so happy with them i use the alternatives on windws too lol05:30
POVaddctun_operateur: ah okay. i only checked dapper.05:30
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ken0What should i use EASYUBUNTU or AUTOMATIX?05:30
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LjLGreyGhost-Ubuntu, it could be fuller, but it's the kind of check you want for partitions that weren't unmounted cleanly05:30
packagedelivererok, what other place than in etc/bind could something go wrong with bind9 for it to return answer=0, authority:1 to a dig05:30
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T1andoh: any error code?05:30
LjLken0: weren't you back to Windows?05:30
andohSure. Hang on.05:30
GreyGhost-Ubuntu LjL ,nice :) thanks then i suppose its all right :)05:30
ken0LjL: Ok, thank you for reminding me!!!05:31
un_operateurvonbruno, do the usual troubleshooting -- ping localhost, ping router/gateway, ping ipaddress-on-internet...05:31
T1ken0: easyubuntu05:31
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GreyGhost-Ubuntuken0 , is ken7?05:31
ken0ken0, how would i know?05:31
LjLGreyGhost-Ubuntu: possibly. he's changed many ken* nicknames05:31
ken0T1, and the reason for your preference?05:31
b0ss_question is there a perl editor besides the default ubuntu that i can get05:31
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packagedelivererI just copy pasted everything from a working ubuntu from the etc/bind to the bind dir on this installation05:32
GreyGhost-UbuntuLjL ,yeah ...05:32
vonbrunoun_operateur: cannot ping gateway, localhost pings ok, internet address cannot ping05:32
un_operateurb0ss_, there's gvim-perl05:32
GreyGhost-Ubuntuken0 ,did u get ktoon compiling?05:32
T1ken0: supposedly less chance of breaking your system05:32
b0ss_apt-get install?05:32
packagedelivererany help, please?05:32
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n2diyb0ss, gedit plays with perl05:32
ken0GreyGhost-Ubuntu: I am so fed up of Linux that i am planning to go back to Windows, and talk about compiling something....05:32
un_operateurb0ss_, yes05:32
karthikguys...help me out... I had one NTFS partition...obivously i cant write any files in it...So i converted my NTFS to FAT32....now after restarting my PC...the new FAT32 partition icon in my my computer is missing...SO i went to the terminal and mounted my FAT32 .... But i still cant write or delete any filed in it......i am a newbie..Help me out05:33
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un_operateurn2diy, gedit's a baby compared to vim :)05:33
LjLanyway ken0, i propose you just use the documentation. http://help.ubuntu.com/community - and the bot (when queried in private) is useful too05:33
GreyGhost-Ubuntuken0 , compiling ktoon on windows will be a greater pain ;)05:33
vonbrunoun_operateur: it could be that it's rerouting everything to local machine. but i didn't change anything relating to routing05:33
b0ss_tyty05:33
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packagedelivereranyone ? :( I'm desperate05:33
cuencaHey pal, who can help me with my microphoe???05:33
ken0GreyGhost-Ubuntu, One doesn;t need to do it there, becuase it is FREELY AVAILABLE05:33
n2diyun_operateur: roger that, I'm still taking baby steps, after six years of linux!05:33
un_operateurvonbruno, check the output of "route -n"05:33
ken0LjL: Maybe i am not ready for linux :(05:33
GreyGhost-Ubuntu ken0 ??? when did ktoon get ported to Win?05:34
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ken0LjL: I cant get any work done in here :'(05:34
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karthikguys...help me out... I had one NTFS partition...obivously i cant write any files in it...So i converted my NTFS to FAT32....now after restarting my PC...the new FAT32 partition icon in my my computer is missing...SO i went to the terminal and mounted my FAT32 .... But i still cant write or delete any filed in it......i am a newbie..Help me out05:34
ando1T1: Did you get that?05:34
un_operateurn2diy, it's ok if you are comfortable with the mouse -- but if you want to harness the power of keystrokes, little beats vim05:34
T1ken0: course you are, what other problems you got, tutorial aside05:34
LjLken0, maybe. what do you *specifically* want to do?05:34
ken0GreyGhost-Ubuntu, It is/was always available (AFAIK), BTW i know nothing :-|05:34
GreyGhost-Ubuntukarthik ,lloked up the permissions?05:34
CheyenneD___My laptop keeps freezing at the partition table in step 5 if the ubuntu install, What do i do?05:34
T1ando1: yea, does it just die after then?05:35
n2diyken0:  nobody is ready for linux, it's like learning morse code, you do it because you want to.05:35
ando1yah05:35
karthikgreychost...help me05:35
tim_hi ubuntu. the bittorrent client, azureus, is complaining about my version of java incompatible. i have 1.4.2. im assuming that this version is out of date, so can anyone direct me to the right package to apt-get05:35
ando1t1: er yah.05:35
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GreyGhost-Ubuntuken0 , nope only *nix and recent mac ports are available last time i checked....05:35
ando1t1: It doesn't compile.05:35
b0ss_un_operateur: There is no such package with that name?05:35
ando1t1: I think it needs some other libs, but I dunno what ones.05:35
GreyGhost-Ubuntukarthik , i too am new... ;)05:35
ken0Ljl, T1, what other problems have i not got, the tutorial aside05:35
ken0n2diy, Should one do that?05:35
un_operateurb0ss_, just a sec then05:35
karthikguys...help me out... I had one NTFS partition...obivously i cant write any files in it...So i converted my NTFS to FAT32....now after restarting my PC...the new FAT32 partition icon in my my computer is missing...SO i went to the terminal and mounted my FAT32 .... But i still cant write or delete any filed in it......i am a newbie..Help me out05:35
GreyGhost-Ubuntukarthik ,and don't have any FAT partitions....05:35
LjLken0: anyway, from what i can see, this ktoon program is just as "freely available" for Linux as it is for Windows. obviously. it just isn't packaged in Ubuntu.05:35
n2diyun_operateur: Someday I'll learn vim, or maybe even emacs!?05:35
T1ando1: can you check the release notes on the website?05:35
ken0GreyGhost-Ubuntu, ok ;-|05:36
LjLken0: uh, how do i know what problems you have not got?05:36
karthikhow to change the permission in terminal05:36
LjLUbotu, tell karthik about permissions | karthik, see the private message from Ubotu05:36
n2diyken0: Yes, everyone should know how to receive morse code!05:36
Kingsqueakkarthik: chmod for perms, chown for ownership05:36
LjL- .-. ..- .05:36
ando1t1; heh, they don't exactly point them out.05:36
ando1t1: lemme see if I can find them.05:36
ken0LjL: Its only the sense of community and the FSF philosophy that keeps me attatched, otherwise long time before i would have left05:36
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ken0n2diy, :)05:36
T1ando1: is it the beta drivers?05:37
cuencaany one here tryed to use GRUB2??05:37
un_operateurb0ss_, it's named -- vim-perl but you might want the GUI side to it -- sudo aptitude install vim-perl vim-gnome vim-gtk05:37
T1ken0: you could always try hurd....05:37
ken0LjL: And now its the same thing that is sucking the productivity out of me05:37
GreyGhost-Ubuntu!permissions | karthik05:37
ubotukarthik: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux05:37
LjLken0, i'm not sure you've *understood* the free software philosophy, if you claim that a given program (like ktoon) isn't "freely available" for Linux just because you haven't managed to get it to run ;)05:37
GreyGhost-Ubuntukarthik , i "think" that will help...05:37
ken0T1: what is that?05:37
n2diyken0:   .-.05:37
karthikok05:37
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robdemanhey folks05:37
ken0LjL: philosophy aside, i should get some work done, who can live without food on the dinner table. Philsophy can feed the mind not the stomach !!!05:38
LjLwell ken0, if you tell us about specific issues you are having, maybe we'll be able to help. generically saying that things don't work like you'd like them to isn't a useful hint to *us05:38
CheyenneD___My laptop keeps freezing at the partition table in step 5 if the ubuntu install, What do i do?05:38
cuencaHobdeman: Hey! are everything ok?05:38
robdemanis there a bittorrent client that does MEGA uploads and only LIMITED downloading.. so that I can achive a really hight share/seed ratio?05:38
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T1ken0: lol it was a joke, it was what should have been in linux's place (the kernel) for the gnu os, but it never got finished lol05:38
LjLken0, what OS you use is your choice. if you choose to use Ubuntu, this channel is for support.05:38
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ken0T1, :)05:38
ken0LjL: thanks for reminding05:38
un_operateur!coc05:39
ubotuThe Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/05:39
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T1ando1: try here http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9746/README/index.html05:39
robdemanall Bittorrent clients that I have seen allow limiting of uploads...05:39
robdemanbit not downloads!05:39
lupine_85!nvidiabeta05:39
ubotuFor Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9746 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable05:39
CheyenneDMy laptop keeps freezing at the partition table in step 5 if the ubuntu install, What do i do?05:39
ken0robdeman, strange need.05:39
lupine_85robdeman: ktorrent05:39
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robdemanken0: not strange at all05:40
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ken0robdeman, yeah ktorrent, but it looks really ugly on GNOME05:40
ando1Yeah.05:40
lupine_85well, use KDE.... :p05:40
n2diyken0: how do you expect to get work done, hanging out in a chat room? The OS doesn't seem to be the issue. ;)05:40
Nontitle!nvidiabeta dapper05:40
robdemanken0: I have a ehole load of bandwith that I am not currently using05:40
X_[Serenade] _XI am bored... could any of you people name a application for Ubuntu that is good for mixing audio?05:40
robdemanbut it comes with the package05:40
ando1t1: it says nothing about the libs.05:40
lupine_85Nontitle, erm, not for dapper, sorry :s05:40
ken0n2diy, I sad mind on a christmas eve, can only do so much05:40
Nontitledamn lol05:40
lupine_85!info jokosher edgy05:40
ubotujokosher: simple and easy to use audio multi-tracker. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 605 kB, installed size 1676 kB05:40
robdemanken0: if I use this extra bandwith to seed by just uploading I will get a relly high ratio05:40
T1ando1: well im sorry then i really dont know what else to suggest05:41
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n2diyX_[Serenade] _X: audacity05:41
X_[Serenade] _Xthanks05:41
robdemanken0: so the next time I need to download something, I am at the top priority in the cload - isnt it?05:41
T1ando1: just try the repo ubotu suggested05:41
ken0robdeman, Azu* doesn't let yo do that05:41
Nontitlei can't get audacity to work05:41
ken0robdeman, *"?"05:41
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robdemanAzuereus might do it05:41
CheyenneDMy laptop keeps freezing at the partition table in step 5 if the ubuntu install, What do i do?05:41
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robdemanken0: what is * ?05:41
ken0robdeman, Bittorent options on ubuntu are extremely limited05:41
T1azureus allows limiting uploads and downloads05:41
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ando1t1: what?05:42
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ken0robdeman, i wanted to concatenate the "?" to my last statement so i used *, as in *=footnote.05:42
ando1t1: repo ubotu suggested?05:42
T1!nvidiabeta05:42
ubotuFor Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9746 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable05:42
X_[Serenade] _Xgood bye I have to sign off... so to anyone who celebrates it... Merry Christmas05:42
ValmarkoHello :) where do I look to see if there's more then one plugin installed (video streaming)?05:42
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packagedelivererhttp://img179.imageshack.us/img179/7770/wabbledh0.jpg     --> could anyone help with this?05:43
T1yea same here merry xmas all byeeeeee05:43
CheyenneDMy laptop keeps freezing at the partition table in step 5 if the ubuntu install, What do i do?05:43
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ken0LjL: Can a clean install of Ubuntu help clear my mind. THis is the third time that i am going to be re-installing Ubuntu, in the hope that this experience is going to be a good one. But this is going to be my last try, and advice?05:43
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n2diyCheyenneD: google the make and model of your laptop, and Ubuntu.05:43
ken0LjL: *any05:43
T1ken0: persist, its great when it works05:43
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juanchito2006What's the main difference between Ubuntu for x86 and amd64? Other than memory addressing.05:43
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juanchito2006Hello05:43
ryanakcaI suspended my laptop. How do I get back to Xorg/KDE/GNOME? hitting the power button just makes funny sounds05:43
ken0T1 I just hope that it works in the end05:43
LjLken0: yes. install it, and then don't do *anything* as root without having a *very* clear idea of what you're doing. if you're unsure, ask here. don't install automatix.05:44
packagedeliverersigh... I guess my question is too noobish =(05:44
ken0LjL: easyubuntu?05:44
ValmarkoViadeo streaming is not working, maybe because there's more than one plugin installed. In wich directory should I look ?05:44
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ken0LjL: i need to have all the formats to work in Ubuntu, and choosing over xine-gxine-gstreamer ( i even dont know what are they)05:44
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LjLken0: never tried it. it's often reported to work better than automatix - but my opinion is you should ask and read the docs. you'll have to anyway, sooner or later... by using scripts, you're just postponing that time05:45
ken0LjL: Is kind of the prime reason for my frustration any advice?05:45
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LjLken0: not much, because i use few restricted formats myself. but, what did not work out correctly after following the help page about restricted formats?05:45
n2diypackagedeliverer: what is the question?05:46
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ken0LjL: So what backend to use what frontend to use? I got to do that research and choose? I simply want to play some videos, not write a thesis on video formats05:46
grimboy_ukdevnu11, Lo05:46
LjLken0: what about using the defaults?05:46
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ken0LjL: I simply got so fed-up of installing all those UGLY libraries, that i used VLC05:46
packagedelivererhttp://img179.imageshack.us/img179/7770/wabbledh0.jpg  --> I was wondering what the bug might be, the config files I had copied to this machine should be fine05:46
LjLken0: VLC is a fine player05:46
ken0LjL: And VLC often stutters, renders incorrectly, looses sound in the middle of videos05:46
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n2diyken0: no pain, no gain.05:47
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ken0n2diy, So much pain, when is there going to be any gain?05:47
LjLken0: what got you fed up with installing them anyway? it's quite simple, sudo apt-get install blah blah.05:47
brainiacXanthomryr: frohe weihnachten nach klle05:47
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n2diyken0: your not aware of it yet, but you are gaining. You'll never have to buy new software, no?05:48
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ken0LjL: yeah, but the psychological effect, that the official documentation told me that the UGLY libraries would instabilise my system, and still me installing them through sudo apt-get, all culminated to a unhappy user05:48
TooR4u!known as05:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about known as - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:48
ken0n2diy, That is if all this works05:48
LjLken0: where does the official documentation says that those libraries make anything unstable?05:48
LjLthat should probably be reworded.05:48
ken0LjL: In synaptic and add/remove programs05:48
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packagedeliverergah, I need to have thing configuration working before the exams -___-05:49
n2diyken0: It works, I've been using linux for six years, and I've been Windows FREE, for three years.05:49
packagedelivererthis*05:49
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ken0n2diy, I wish i could do that05:49
LjLken0, i don't have Synaptic, but i can hardly believe that's what it says. it probably just says that packages from Universe and Multiverse are not as thoroughly tested as the ones in Main05:49
LjLstill, most people do use Universe and Multiverse, given they make up for some 15000 programs05:50
n2diyken0: your on the right path.05:50
packagedelivereroh well... was worth the try...05:50
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ken0n2diy, LjL: as i said, i am re-formatting everything, any advice one i get get a clean machine, to avoid me falling into this mental dilemma and instability?05:50
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ken0*on05:50
ken0*once05:50
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LjLken0: i gave you the advice i had. don't do things as root unless you know very well what you're doing, and if you don't, ask here.05:51
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packagedeliverercould anyone please help me with bind9?05:51
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n2diyken0: what's your plan, dual boot, or straight Ubuntu?05:51
ken0LjL: ok, may i have the strength to withstand all this.05:51
ken0n2diy, straight ubuntu, although i am drifting away from that especially after my present experience ( atpresent this is a ubuntu only machine)05:52
juanchito2006My processor does suppert EM64T but I'm not sure to choose between the x86 or tha amd64 version of ubuntu.05:52
Stone321edgy must be the most unstable version of ubuntu05:52
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LjLken0: uh, then why did you even ask about getting rid of ubuntu at boot, and booting Windows instead? simply installing Windows from the CD would achieve that effect with no effort at all.05:52
n2diyken0: ok, but if you want Winders, install it first.05:52
ken0Stone321, and me the most unstable user of ubuntu05:52
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Rambo3ok05:53
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ken0LjL. n2diy I have reformatted this machine with Ubuntu so many times that now i am virtually knowing every method of installing those TWO OSs05:53
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LjLken0: which is why i asked why you asked.05:54
JestreAny nfs/mount gurus?05:54
ken0LjL: What i was asking you was that, was there some way that you could "magically" prevent Ubuntu from booting up (just as you ban someone here) on my PC, even if i install it and select it from GRUB, so that i dont waste any time editing my config files, and get some work done on windows05:54
ken0LjL: But you didn't get the question and started explaining me about how to safely remove Ubuntu05:54
juanchito2006I'm afraid i may have software/hardware compatiblity issues with the amd64 version, is that true?05:55
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ken0juanchito2006, If you DONT have issues than you should be afraid, considering this is LINUX :)05:55
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LjL<ken0> LjL: Can you ban Ubuntu from booting up on my computer? <LjL> ken0: ...? <ken0> LjL: You read it right <LjL> ken0: you mean remove ubuntu and make sure windows starts? <ken0> LjL: Yeah, this had been such a dissapointing experience05:56
LjLken0: and you're a troll.05:56
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juanchito2006ken0: But which are the main differences between ubuntu x86 and amd6405:56
morpheus74Hello.  How do I install PHP using Ubuntu?05:56
Rambo3!lamp > morpheus7405:57
LjLUbotu, tell morpheus74 about lamp | morpheus74, see the private message from Ubotu05:57
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yuesefahow to access windows share folder with password05:57
morpheus74Thanks all.05:58
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ubuntuhola05:59
ubuntutengo una consulta05:59
ubuntusi es q alguien me puede ayudar05:59
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nalioth!se06:00
ubotuSvensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se06:00
nalioth!es06:00
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.06:00
n2diyHow would you upgrade from 5.10 to 6.06, with out loosing any user stuff?06:01
nalioth!tell n2diy about upgrade06:01
naliothn2diy: this is linux, safe upgrades are normal06:01
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Rambo3like upgrading fedora 5 to 6 ?06:01
packagedelivererhttp://img179.imageshack.us/img179/7770/wabbledh0.jpg06:01
packagedelivererhttp://img292.imageshack.us/img292/6673/wabbleir3.jpg06:01
packagedeliverer:(06:02
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n2diynalioth: not according to what I've read from google searchs. But anyway, install the new OS, and uses the existing partitons?06:02
skeetoI have a question for ya, a friend just sent me a file and I cant find the dir06:03
packagedelivererskeeto -> find ./|grep dirname ?06:03
Rambo3locate , find06:03
morpheus74What is meant by "any method" to install?  Does this mean you can use apt-get, add/remove, etc?06:03
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skeetoit says its under /home/skeeto/.xchat2/downloads but I cant find a dir for that06:03
naliothn2diy: no install necessary06:03
storkmehow can i get audacity to work with alsa??06:03
RopechoborraI cant play any songs! :( Amarok hungs up, and when i try "play" on a terminal it says: sox: Can't open output file '/dev/dsp': Device or resource busy06:03
Rambo3morpheus74, gui or cli06:03
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morpheus74Rambo3: I know what gui means.  Does cli mean command line interface?06:04
naliothn2diy: upgrade means to bring your existing software up to current (or targetted levels).  This is not Windows. you'll never have to "completely reinstall" again06:04
n2diynalioth: we're upgrading from cd, he is on dialup and doesn't have the bandwidth to upgrade that way.06:04
Ropechoborraskeeto try /xchat2 (without the . before)06:04
napkinhi06:04
napkinwats up06:04
jgedeonskeeto:  the .xchat is a hidden directory you can easly view hidden directories06:04
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napkinyour'll06:04
Ropechoborraskeeto i got those 2 directories, one for logs and other for files06:04
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napkinhow are u06:04
napkin?06:04
naliothn2diy: that's fine.  put the cd in your running machine and and it should ask if you want to upgrade (as long as you are using the alternative CD)06:04
Rambo3morpheus74, yes there are alot of frontends to install stuff on ubuntu , therefor " any method"06:04
naliothnapkin: join #ubuntu-offtopic for social chat, please06:04
morpheus74Rambo3: Thank you.06:05
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skeetohow to I veiew hidden directories?06:05
n2diynalioth: I'm not using the alternative cd, it is the stock 6.06 cd.06:05
Rambo3view wher , nautilus or terminal06:05
packagedelivererso is there anyone .. just anyone who can help me with bind?06:05
Ropechoborraskeeto in Window properties i think it is06:05
jgedeonskeeto:  in natilus click on view and then check view hidden directories06:05
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jgedeonskeeto:  should be show hidden files06:06
naliothn2diy: then you'll need to grab the alternative cd for seamluss upgrading.  otw, i suggest you back up your complete home directory (easier to get the alternative CD, imho)06:06
skeetoawesome! thanks !06:06
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morpheus74If I want to install LAMP, is it correct to type apt-get apache2 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server?06:06
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n2diynalioth: roger that.06:07
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Alakazamz0rmorpheus74, http://www.howtoforge.com/node/138806:07
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CheyenneDWould Ubuntu be good to be a media center pc.06:08
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vmxAny wifi gurus around? :)06:08
naliothCheyenneD: yep06:08
Alakazamz0rCheyenneD, yes... http://freevo.sourceforge.net/06:08
naliothvmx: just ask your question :)06:08
LjLCheyenneD: depends on what you mean i suppose... but there are distributions that are *dedicated* to that sort of thing, you might consider them06:08
morpheus74Alakazamz0r: Thanks.06:08
Alakazamz0rmorpheus74, no problem.06:08
Alakazamz0rmorpheus74, this one may be better for you: http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu610-edgy-lamp-server-installation-with-screenshots.html06:09
AnorexicpillowHello... I have a question :) In Gmail they allow you to SEND from different accounts like anorexicpillow@hotmail.com, anorexicpillow@yahoo.com, ect. is there a way i can RECEIVE emails from those addresses, for example if someone where to email me at anorexicpillow@hotmail.com i would get it in my gmail.06:09
Rambo3morpheus74, depens on Lamp type you want to install06:09
vmxi just spent a while getting my usb wifi stick (wpn111) working in ubuntu 6.10 using ndiswrapper, but no tools can find any access points06:09
robdemanhey all06:09
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robdemancan somebody explain something about bittorrent here?06:09
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ken9LjL: Just came to drop be and apologise for any inconvenience that have been caused to you by my seemingly irresponsible actions (you see i am much disappointed with ubuntu, and i was venting it out at the wrong place). I am confused and really depressed. Please forgive me, and have a Merry X'mas. Bless you, and yeah, dont kick me out, i am going. Bye! :-)06:09
packagedelivererblah06:09
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vmxjust wondering if there's anything i should check (windows with the same card finds my access point)06:11
bjameshi all, I've got some network server type questions about Ubuntu - is there a specific channel for that or does anyone fancy a try answering (they're not complex questions, just is x/y/z possible, etc)06:11
galois-robdeman: unless youare more specific - bittorrent is a very popular person to person file sharing program based on a central 'tracker'06:11
Alakazamz0rken9's comment needs to go on bash.org06:11
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Lynourebjames: Hard to say without knowing what you want to ask06:11
bjamesok, I'll give it a try then...06:12
robdemangalois- well I need to know how I can boost my ratio. Is my ratio associated with a specific tracker or is it a global bittorrent-wide ratio?06:12
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russianhi all, how do I quit X server?06:12
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Lenaud01init 606:12
galois-robdeman: no idea, but I would imagine it is boosted by uploading more ...06:13
Nontitlesudo etc/init.d/gdm(or kdm) stop06:13
russianthanks06:13
ZoffixHi, I've set up "Services->Administration->Shared Folders" I used NFS. Now how can I access those directories from another box on the network?06:13
Nontitlethen sudo etc/init.d/gdm(or kdm) start when you want to open it again06:13
bjamesI'm currently running a wireless network with a laptop and a PC and what I want to do is add a Linux box as a SAMBA server and gateway/firewall - is it possible to hardwire the Linux box to the wireless router and set both to static IPs and haev the Linux box act as DHCP server for the wireless network???06:13
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robdemangalois- that is whaty I am asking. I have tons of stuff to upload, but, this is froma different tracker than the tracker that I need to download from currently. so I am wondering if it would help to seed tracker Y with tons of bandwith if I need a better ratio on tracker X ?06:14
AnorexicpillowHello... I have a question :) In Gmail they allow you to SEND from different accounts like anorexicpillow@hotmail.com, anorexicpillow@yahoo.com, ect. is there a way i can RECEIVE emails from those addresses, for example if someone where to email me at anorexicpillow@hotmail.com i would get it in my gmail.06:14
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Lenaud01if I am running ubuntu server how to I get xfc or gnome on there?06:14
galois-bjames: short answer is yes, principle shouldn't be any different to a wired network06:14
galois-bjames: wireless is all about how clients talk to the router06:14
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Rambo3bjames,  yes it is posible06:14
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naliothrobdeman: have you asked in #bittorrent?06:14
galois-bjames: will need to disable the dchp on the router before enabling it on the server06:15
radar1976how do fix this shift problem06:15
radar1976i can't use the shift key in X06:15
Rambo3bjames,  turne off dhcp in router and start a dhcpd server on your main server06:15
baylehow can i remove an app from shell with all its dipendences? (sorry for my english)06:15
radar1976i have to use caps lock06:15
J-_Lenaud01: sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop.. wouldn't that work? don't quote me on it, but I think it does.06:15
bjameswill the router mind?06:15
galois-Anorexicpillow: you can setup fetchmail to check multiple accounts06:15
karthikroot@fancyyunk-desktop:/media# chgrp plugdev Soft06:16
karthikchgrp: changing group of `Soft': Operation not permitted06:16
Lenaud01would  gnome be best J or something lighter like xfc since its a server?06:16
bjamesI mean will it allow the connection from the PC/laptop to the Linux box without having assigned it an IP address?06:16
karthiky the operation is not permitted06:16
Rambo3bjames, no just set it to static ip . 192.16X.0.2 or 10,10.10.206:16
karthiki am in the root06:16
J-_well, xubuntu would probably work better.06:16
naliothbayle: use synaptic06:16
Lenaud01so sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop06:16
galois-bjames: you could also set it to get the IP from the server, but that is asking for a misassigned IP ..06:17
bjamesRambo3: that's my problem really - I don't want to have to set all the clients to static as I want others that come into the flat to be able to use it without the phaff06:17
baylenalioth i don't wanna use it06:17
Kingsqueakif you don't want all the applications with xubuntu installed, just install fluxbox06:17
Lenaud01fluxbox?06:17
J-_google it first Lenaud0106:17
Nontitleyou can also use fluxbox or jwm those are like the lightest ones06:17
KingsqueakLenaud01: it's simply a very light window manager06:17
Lenaud01k06:17
Lenaud01thanks06:17
KingsqueakLenaud01: if you do xubuntu you get music players, office suite etc.06:17
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bjamesRambo3: or am I thinking nonsense - i.e. will I have to stick to static06:17
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Lenaud01yea I dont need those06:17
Rambo3bjames, router is static  and the rest is dynamic IP06:17
J-_i had trouble running fluxbox06:17
KingsqueakLenaud01: yeah so all you really want is a window manager06:18
J-_as a newbie.06:18
Lenaud01I want it to be a websever with php and mysql and dns06:18
juanchito2006Is there a benefit if I install the amd64 version over the x86 version?06:18
Nontitlesudo apt-get install fluxbox or sudo apt-get install jwm or sudo apt-get install icewm06:18
bjamesRambo3: hmm...06:18
galois-bjames: you give the router a static address so it is always available, others will look to the server for their address06:18
naliothjuanchito2006: not really06:18
n2diyAlternative CDs aren't available from Ship It?06:18
KingsqueakLenaud01: there's windomaker, fluxbox, xfce4, bunch of them, just a window manager alone06:18
NontitleXfce is just confusing06:18
naliothjuanchito2006: you'll lose the ability to easily use flash and other multimedia (x86 only) codecs06:18
Lenaud01I think I will try out flux I have heard good things06:18
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naliothn2diy: join me in #ubuntu-offtopic please06:18
bjamesRambo3: also can you suggest any firewall/DHCP info for Linux/Ubunutu?06:18
KingsqueakNontitle: unless you are used to CDE, then xfce becomes a CDE that is useful ;-)06:18
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nalioth!tell Lenaud01 about fluxbuntu06:19
Nontitleoh06:19
Rambo3bjames, built in firewall IPtables06:19
n2diynalioth: roger06:19
ZoffixHi, I've set up "Services->Administration->Shared Folders" I used NFS. Now how can I access those directories from another box on the network?06:19
naliothbjames: there is one built into every linux06:19
karthikguy help...i tried to change group of one of my partition...using chgrp... but it says that "the operation not permitted"... but i am in the root06:19
naliothbjames: use firestarter for a frontend06:19
Nontitle!fluxbuntu06:19
ubotufluxbuntu is a LPAE-standard compliant, Ubuntu-based derivative that maintains the goal of running on a wide range of mobile devices and computers (low-end & high-end). It is lightweight, swift and efficient. | Support Channel: #fluxbuntu on freenode | Homepage: http://fluxbuntu.org/06:19
bjamesfirestarter and iptables - I'll note them and do some research06:19
bjamescheers guys06:19
juanchito2006nalioth: Thank you very much, I've was waiting for that answer for half an hour06:19
Nontitle!apt06:19
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)06:19
Zoffix!tell bjames about firestarter06:19
TheAspi like shorewall better then firestarter06:19
Kingsqueakbjames: google for the firestarter site too, good info there06:19
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Rambo3i like bash script to setup my iptables06:20
karthikuy help...i tried to change group of one of my partition...using chgrp... but it says that "the operation not permitted"... but i am in the root06:20
Nontitle!fireftarter06:20
vmxi guess nobody has any recommendations for debugging ndiswrapper issues? :)06:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fireftarter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:20
Nontitle!firestarter06:20
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).06:20
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Lenaud01bind hard to use?06:20
NontitleZoffix: use !firestarter | bjames not !tell bjames about firestarter06:21
nalioth!tell Nontitle about msgthebot06:21
evowhat does LPAE-standard mean?06:21
Nontitle!msgthebot06:21
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...06:21
bjamesvmx: I've had a few problems with ndiswrapper - good luck!06:21
karthikuy help...i tried to change group of one of my partition...using chgrp... but it says that "the operation not permitted"... but i am in the root06:21
Zoffix!tell Zoffix about firestarter06:21
vmxwell it seems to be "working" now, it just can't find any access points06:22
vmxspent most of today trying to get it working ;-/06:22
Zoffix!firestarter | Zoffix06:22
ubotuZoffix: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).06:22
Nontitle!tell Nontitle about firestarter06:22
juanchito2006!for what is this "!" for06:22
bjamesis the dhcp server service built-in as well?06:22
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ZoffixNontitle: I prefer my method06:22
chdlby_hey !06:22
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Nontitleoh, i thought it was supposed to show it in the channel06:23
karthikuy help...i tried to change group of one of my partition...using chgrp... but it says that "the operation not permitted"... but i am in the root06:23
karthikuy help...i tried to change group of one of my partition...using chgrp... but it says that "the operation not permitted"... but i am in the root06:23
LjL!repeat | karthik06:23
ubotukarthik: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience06:23
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bjamesRambo3: is dhmcp server built-in to Ubuntu distro?06:23
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bjamesdhcp*06:23
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CantankerousKarthik: It's not a FAT partition is it? They don't store ownership details, so it is defined at mount time06:23
magic_ninjaim in ubuntu live how would i go about accessing my actual hdd files (to copy files from one hd to another06:23
nalioth!tell Zoffix about msgthebot06:23
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chdlby_can you help me please, i have a intel dual core 2 and what is the good distribution06:23
magic_ninjaubuntu is a great distro06:24
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Lenaud01ubuntu is the best06:24
mineraledoes anyone here use external rsync/ftp backup? -- I'm looking for a cheap provider06:24
magic_ninjachdlby_: if your a newbie ubuntu would be great startout06:24
bjameschdlby: all should be fine with SMP06:24
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karthikCantan...its Fat32....i just converted it from NTFS06:24
magic_ninjachdlby_: ubuntu got me switched over entirely from windows06:24
chdlby_I'am nopt a newlie06:24
Alakazamz0rchdlby_, i agree.06:24
bjamesDoes anyone know if DHCP and XDMCP can be run "out-the-box" on Ubuntu server?06:24
chdlby_but I dont think the good distribution06:24
TheAspbjames: you need to turn on xdmcp in gdm06:25
timo901is there any drivers i can install apart from fglrx ones06:25
chdlby_amd64 smp is compatible with my CPU06:25
TheAspbjames: and you need to install and configure the dhcp server06:25
Rambo3bjames, no06:25
timo901they just dont work06:25
Alakazamz0rbjames, no it cant be.06:25
galois-chdlby_: you are probably not asking the least biased channel!06:25
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n2diyminerale: take a look at hypermart.com, if you go with them, throw me a bone, and mention I sent you.06:25
Cantankerouskarthik: Then you must set uid= and gid= in the mount options. See "man mount" and /etc/fstab06:25
Alakazamz0rubuntu server doesn't come preinstalled w/X06:25
Alakazamz0ryou have to apt-get it06:25
ValmarkoIn wich directory are located the plugins ( like mozilla-mplayer ) used in Firefox?06:25
Lenaud01gentoo is good if you want compile everything06:25
bjamescheers06:25
Rambo3!paste >rambo306:26
TheAspbjames: yeah, you need to install gdm too :P06:26
vmxValmarko: ~/.mozilla/plugins i beleive06:26
seanzer:) i heard gentoo06:26
bjamesI have to go now, but thanks one an all for the info - I can google on the rest06:26
TheAspbjames: you don't need X though, you can run it without06:26
magic_ninjahow would i go about accessing the hdd i just put in through the live cd06:26
bjamesbye06:26
chdlby_amd64 is good to my dual coire CPU06:26
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Valmarkovmx, tanks06:26
J-_I might run gentoo on a separate partition so I can learn more about compiling, so I don't have to reply on apt-get/synaptic as much in ubuntu. heh06:26
timo901any ati driver apart from the fglrx ones06:27
timo901i can install06:27
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Alakazamz0rtimo901, the one off the ATI website.06:27
Alakazamz0rif there is one.06:27
seanzerthe ones from the ati website are the fglrx ones06:28
ValmarkoUmmm... there is no such directory. tanks anyway :)06:28
Lenaud01do I use bind to setup dns?06:28
timo901i cant install them, they say they are not suppoted when im about to extract them06:28
vmxValmarko: ah, sorry, i'm on windows atm so i couldn't check ;-/06:28
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Valmarkoit's ok. Merry Christmas :)06:29
Alakazamz0rtimo901, http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html06:29
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magic_ninjahow do you mount different hard drives in the ubuntu live cd06:30
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magic_ninjai know there is data on this hdd (i'm trying to rescue some important documents for a friend)06:30
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magic_ninjabut i can't get to the hdd06:30
Alakazamz0rmagic_ninja, mount /dev/harddriveyouwannamountspartition /mountpoint06:30
Alakazamz0rmagic_ninja, do a "fdisk -l /dev/hdd"06:30
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Alakazamz0rbrb06:31
Valmarkosudo apt-get install  mozilla-mplayer06:31
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magic_ninjaAlakazamz0r: friend of mine's dad died and they cant get the insurance documents and stuff like that06:31
cstextilesLTSP chroot bug at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/portmap/+bug/61668 is affecting my Edubuntu 6.06 install as I am unable to do that install how to clear that bug from the ISO and start installing? 06:31
magic_ninjafdisk -l returns no output06:32
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chdlby_why version for my cpu ?06:32
tannerldWhat does Shift+Backspace do?06:32
n2diymagic_ninja: can you see it through system-admin-disks?06:33
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magic_ninjacan linux read fat16 (this hdd is old)06:33
n2diytannerld: , it re-starts Xwindow.06:33
TheAsplinux can read all the fat it wants to06:33
Cantankerousmagic_ninja: use "sudo fdisk -l".06:33
jengc0ilhello06:33
tannerldn2diy: Hmm, then what does Control+Alt+Backspace do?06:34
RopechoborraI cant play any songs! :( Amarok hungs up, and when i try "play" on a terminal it says: sox: Can't open output file '/dev/dsp': Device or resource busy06:34
un_operateur.. except body fat06:34
Rambo3magic_ninja, i think you might try to mount it with -t option06:34
TheAsptannerld: shift+bs restarts xgl06:34
TheAsptannerld: if you are using it...06:34
tannerldhmm06:34
tannerldstupid shortcuts06:34
tannerldI've hit Shift Backspace three times in the past few days :E06:34
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HoagCan anyone recommend a good ms paint style program, so I don't have to load up gimp when I want to crop etc? (I crop A LOT)06:35
magic_ninjan2diy: no i don't even see "disks" there06:35
jengc0ilhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38677/06:35
jengc0il!help06:35
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots06:35
n2diytannerld: the same thing?06:35
timo901X.Org 6.8 Drivers06:35
timo901?06:36
tannerldn2diy: same thing? it just puts me back at login :E06:36
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timo901XFree86 4.3 Drivers06:36
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jengc0ilhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38677/06:36
n2diymagic_ninja: so there is no system-admin-disks option running live?06:36
un_operateurHoag, there's quite a few -- tkpaint, tuxpaint and xpaint to name a few06:36
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magic_ninjan2diy: its showing the filesystem mounted, but no files appear, perhaps i mounted it with the wrong fs type?06:36
n2diytannerld: yes, and it re-started X06:36
nekohayois it possible to create a root user, but with a different name for security purposes on a server?06:36
Hoagun_operateur: Thanks!06:37
tannerldn2diy: :E I'll have to try to stop hitting that :E06:37
jengc0ilun_operateur: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38677/06:37
Ropechoborranekohayo a sudoer06:37
n2diymagic_ninja: Could be?06:37
`richnekohayo, yeah, any user with a UID of 0 has full root powers iirc06:37
Ralphardhow can I tell if my swap drive is being recoongnized?06:37
magic_ninjan2diy: yay i got it ty06:37
magic_ninjan2diy: after i get these files copied i got the real problem ahead of me....figuring out what broke my system, i get an error during boot that is like "can't access tty; job control turned off"06:38
un_operateurjengc0il,  sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/apache-ssl*deb06:38
tannerldn2diy: thanks06:38
nekohayoRopechoborra, `rich, nope, I need a "regular" root user, not a sudoer06:38
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n2diytannerld, nada, it comes in handy if something locks up, you don't have to reboot.06:39
`richnekohayo, that's what I'm talking about. Any user with a UID of 0 is essentially a duplicate root.06:39
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un_operateurnekohayo, the regular root user is "root" and it goes against the whole philosophy of unix to create a duplicate root -- just what do you want the new user to do?06:39
cstextiles LTSP chroot bug at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/portmap/+bug/61668 is affecting my Edubuntu 6.06 install as I am unable to do that install how to clear that bug from the ISO and start installing? 06:39
nekohayoun_operateur: actually simply "renaming" root would do06:39
n2diymagic_ninja: good luck with that, hope I'm around to see the fix. :)06:40
nekohayobut I don't know if that's possible06:40
jengc0ilun_operateur: root@myUbuntu-b0x:~#  dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/apache-ssl*deb06:40
jengc0ildpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/apache-ssl*deb (--install):06:40
jengc0il cannot access archive: No such file or directory06:40
jengc0ilErrors were encountered while processing:06:40
jengc0il /var/cache/apt/archives/apache-ssl*deb06:40
un_operateur!paste | jengc0il06:40
ubotujengc0il: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)06:40
un_operateurjengc0il, never paste directly into the channel06:40
jengc0ilsorry guy06:40
`richnekohayo, do you basically want to rename root to make it harder for someone to brute force their way in?06:40
magic_ninjan2diy: the actual fix will come after i copy these hdd's contents to MY hdd then i'll fix my comp and browse through the files to get my friend's dad's will and such06:40
un_operateurjengc0il, is that the whole output there??06:40
eztklol06:40
eztki keep doing shift and backspace too06:40
ValmarkoTv streaming was working in firefox before I install mozilla. Is there a chance that mozilla might be the root of the problem?06:41
nekohayo`rich precisely06:41
eztkits so annoying06:41
eztkhow on earth do i disable that?06:41
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`richnot sure that's possible, but don't quote me on it06:41
eztkor make the key combination more difficult to do accidentially06:41
jengc0ilun_operateur: yeah06:41
un_operateurnekohayo, rich -- this is risky and not advised -- but you could try renaming root's username in /etc/passwd06:42
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n2diyeztk, pop the backspace key off the keyboard?06:42
`richwouldn't that break all kinds of things?06:42
jengc0ilun_operateur: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38679/06:42
galois-un_operateur: is that *ever* a good idea?06:42
eztkn2diy: *blinks*06:42
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nekohayoun_operateur: so I'm better off doing useradd -m -G root admin the_name_of_the_user ?06:42
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n2diyestk, I'm googling for the real fix now.06:43
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un_operateurrich, galois- , it's not a good idea - and is definitely bound to break a lot (if not everything) ..06:43
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eztkn2diy: me too06:43
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eztkn2diy: if i find something i will let you know06:44
un_operateurjengc0il, have you tried purge-removing every apache package and reinstalling?06:44
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galois-un_operateur: glad to hear it06:44
`richnekohayo, to do what you want, you'd have to disable the original root account somehow as well as create the new one. _that_ bit would break stuff.06:44
`richthere are better ways to secure your box tbh06:44
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PeloI need a little help setting up an automount ,   I can mount the drive manualy no problem but I clearly don'T have the right line in fstab for it to mount automaticaly,  can some give it to me ,   I mount manualy using  " sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/SDA06:45
eztk"I also had the problem with shift backspace killing Xgl, so I had to disable that using the xmodmap commands found in Gentoo's troubleshooting section. I had no idea how often I really hit "shift backspace" till Xgl repeatedly died."06:45
eztk*looks for xmodmap commands*06:45
un_operateurnekohayo, there shouldn't be a need to duplicate root?? why in the world do you want to do that anyway?06:45
nekohayoun_operateur: because the "normal" root is not enabled right now, and I don't want to use it06:45
`richun_operateur, i believe he wants to change the account name to add another obstacle for brute force attackers06:45
magic_ninjanekohayo: that would give ppl 2 ways into your system06:45
nekohayoun_operateur: I want to be able to access the whole server to backup, without having an "active" root account06:46
magic_ninjanekohayo: thats why you use "sudo"06:46
nekohayomagic_ninja: rsync does not know sudo06:46
n2diyeztk, take a look in /etc/inittab06:46
Pelonekohayo,  gksu then06:46
nekohayo(afaik)06:46
un_operateurrich, nekohayo -- thats working around the problem and not addressing it -- if someone wanted to gain root access -- they could just try working around the name and using UID/GID 006:46
`richIndeed.06:47
un_operateurnekohayo, give a normal user the rights to perform backups -- that should suffice06:47
nekohayowell06:47
eztkn2diy: ok06:47
nekohayoisn't those rights root rights?06:47
nekohayoit backups /home06:47
un_operateurnekohayo, no, if root delegates permissions to a particular user (say "backup") to read all the contents of /home -- he does not need to be root06:48
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ValmarkoBefore I uninstall totem-mozilla the system asks me  if I want to remove ubuntu-desktop. Strange... No?06:48
nekohayowhat's that "delegate" permissions ?_?06:49
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un_operateurValmarko, ubuntu-desktop is just a dummy package and can be removed with no damage done06:49
ValmarkoOh, ok. Tanks06:49
jengc0ilun_operateur: yeah06:49
quakepozdrav svima!06:49
un_operateurnekohayo, delegate == give == assign06:49
jengc0ilun_operateur: how 2 solve?06:49
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jengc0ilun_operateur: just want up webserver06:50
slainhi all06:50
slainso what you all up to06:50
jengc0ilusing apache-ssl06:50
nekohayoun_operateur: I did not know a user can delegate its privileges ? I feel I'm misunderstanding something06:50
slainI love linux06:50
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slain:)06:50
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jengc0ilhi slain06:50
magic_ninjaok rebooting with other disk brb06:50
AnorexicpillowHello... I have a question :) In Gmail they allow you to SEND from different accounts like anorexicpillow@hotmail.com, anorexicpillow@yahoo.com, ect. is there a way i can RECEIVE emails from those addresses, for example if someone where to email me at anorexicpillow@hotmail.com i would get it in my gmail.06:50
galois-nekohayo: in that a user with higher permisssions can grant them to one lower down the pecking order06:50
slainare there any people here that use beryl06:51
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un_operateurjengc0il, one sec ..06:51
timo901can i get help with ati radeon 9550 please.06:51
galois-Anorexicpillow: that is a question for Gmail. look into email forwarding06:51
jengc0ilun_operateur: ok06:51
nekohayogalois-: do you have search terms / a link I could see regarding that? I never heard of such a thing06:51
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Anorexicpillowokay06:51
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galois-nekohayo: are you familiar with user permissions at all?06:51
un_operateurnekohayo, a user doesnt delegate himself permissions -- root has to give those permissions to the user so he can do what you want him to do i.e. read /home recursively06:52
nekohayoI'm a newbie06:52
BlissexAnorexicpillow: that's not a Linux, never mind Ubuntu question, and it is quite mad :-) but check if the other accounts can forward as <galois-> says06:52
n2diyeztk, it is there, on my system anyway.06:52
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eztkn2diy: no inittab in /etc/06:52
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eztkn2diy: still trawling through google06:52
slainI have something strange, running beryl got cool graphics and stuff but a bit slow, but when I run beryl benchmark everthing is nice fast and smooth06:53
slainstop benchmark then it goes slow again06:53
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quakeljudi jel mrdate?06:53
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un_operateurjengc0il, can you pastebin the output of this -- sudo find /var/lib/dpkg | egrep -i "post.*install"06:53
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n2diyeztk, no inittab in /etc!? What OS version are you running?06:53
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Lenaud01I have ubuntu server setup I type local host but nothing for apache :(06:54
un_operateurn2diy, eztk -- edgy no longer uses init  -- it uses something called upstart -- hence why inittab is missing06:54
tonyyarussoLenaud01: "local host" or "localhost"?06:55
eztkah06:55
eztkyeah im using Ubuntu edgy06:55
Lenaud01localhost06:55
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`richLenaud01, try netstat -lpn and make sure that apache's listening.06:55
jengc0ilun_operateur: no output find06:55
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tonyyarussoLenaud01: Is apache running?06:56
Lenaud01I have tcp6 0 0 0 :::8006:56
un_operateurjengc0il,  sudo find /var/lib/dpkg | egrep -i "post"06:56
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Lenaud01im guessing thats port 8006:56
un_operateurLenaud01, but thats only on IPv6 tho06:56
Lenaud01what am I looking for to see if its listening06:57
`richyeah ... to the config file, batman06:57
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un_operateurLenaud01, netstat -ano | grep -i ":80"06:57
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Lenaud01tcp6 0 0 :::80 :::*   LISTEN06:58
tonyyarussoLenaud01: When you go to http://localhost in your browser, what does it say?  Also, is there anything in /var/log/apache2/error.log?06:59
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jengc0ilun_operateur: 2 much output06:59
Lenaud01im doing localhost from a laptop that is connected to the router06:59
eztkhttp://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_XGL/Troubleshooting#Shift_backspace06:59
eztkthat will help sort the issue, n2diy06:59
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Lenaud01page cant be displayed is what I get06:59
Lenaud01I have port forwarding in the router07:00
un_operateurjengc0il, redirect that output to a file and then copy its contents to pastebin07:00
Lenaud01for apache ,ssh,ftp all pointing to ubunter server ip07:01
un_operateurjengc0il,  sudo find /var/lib/dpkg | egrep -i "post" > /tmp/file; gedit /tmp/file07:01
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tonyyarussoLenaud01: Shouldn't even be going through the router yet with just localhost.07:01
jengc0ilun_operateur: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38680/07:02
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Lenaud01how can I test?07:02
timo901how do i open an rpm file07:02
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Lenaud01the server has connection07:02
tonyyarussotimo901: You shouldn't.  You should use things out of the Ubuntu repos, which are deb files.07:02
Lenaud01I am able to ping localhost and also google.com07:02
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un_operateurLenaud01, does navigating to http://localhost work?07:02
Pelotimo901,  rpm files are redhat installation packages,  there are instrucutions to install them here  http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/07:02
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n2diyun_operateur:  figures, just when I was getting to know where to find stuff, it gets changed.07:03
un_operateurjengc0il, sudo gedit /var/lib/dpkg/info/apache-ssl.postinst07:03
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Lenaud01from the server un_operateur or from computer connected in the network07:03
mahoundhello07:03
timo901so ati.com doesnt support ubuntu07:03
mahoundi need a ubuntu guru07:03
nekohayoI'll think & research a bit about all this, thanks for the advice un_operateur, galois-, `rich, etc07:03
un_operateurLenaud01, on the server itself07:03
mahound:)07:03
un_operateurnekohayo, google for user and group permissions/management07:03
dtygelhi all: how do I discover if my video card supports 3d acceleration (glxinfo is returning error)07:03
tonyyarusso!ati | timo90107:03
ubotutimo901: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:03
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Lenaud01un_operateur should I use linx to navigate or?07:04
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mahoundi have a server with a uuntu minimal install07:04
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nekohayothanks07:04
un_operateurLenaud01, if the server does not have a GUI, yes07:04
`richnp neko07:04
n2diyeztk, yep. I'm on Dapper, so I don't have a startup file. Did you find it in there?07:04
eztki just to that link, did you see it? scroll up07:05
mahoundand i edit the startup daemons with sysv-rc-conf, but the services won't boot at startup07:05
eztkhavent tested it yet07:05
eztkxmodmap07:05
mahoundany clue?07:05
un_operateurn2diy, eztk -- it's likely upstart has something like inittab in /etc -- check for the obvious -- /etc/upst*07:05
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Lenaud01I dont have linx :(07:06
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Lenaud01should I install fluxbox or linx07:06
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un_operateurLenaud01, i think you might have this --  w3m localhost07:07
ecastroI'm pretty new to ubuntu and i have some problems (i have experience with linux, almost 8 years, but not with ubuntu). I have just installed ubuntu, uncommented the universe repo in source.list and now, while trying to install beryl i found some problems: I added the nvidia beta drivers repo, installed the nvidia-glx package but when trying to install the nvidia-xconfig synaptics tells me that, in order to install nvidia-xconfig, it has t07:07
Nontitlelinx?07:07
FunnyLookinHatyea... what's linx??07:07
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Rocondahow can I transfer something with ssh ?07:07
un_operateurFunnyLookinHat, i think he either means links or lynx07:07
Jack_SparrowI need to know what program is good for making mp3's from my orig audio cd's07:07
eztk/etc/event.d07:07
FunnyLookinHatahhhh ok.07:07
jengc0ilun_operateur: which part 2 edit07:07
n2diyun_operateur: Is that where eztk can disable the ctrl+alt+backspace behavior? It isn't in my /etc/inittab, but ctrl+alt+delete is?07:07
Lenaud01that worked un_operateur07:07
Nontitlelinks and lynx are text-based web browsers -- not window managers07:07
mahoundRoconda: man scp07:08
un_operateurjengc0il, can you post the contents to pastebin please07:08
FunnyLookinHatJack_Sparrow, Sound Juicer CD Extractor is the default for ubuntu, works good for me07:08
Jack_Sparrowk thanks07:08
Lenaud01says apache/2.0.5507:08
jengc0ilun_operateur: ok07:08
Nontitleecastro i know what you mean07:08
mahoundanyone? ubuntu minimal server, sysv-rc-conf ?07:08
eztkn2diy: found it in /etc/event.d07:08
dtygelHow do I discover if my video-card can do glx?07:08
un_operateurLenaud01, you see your webpage there?07:08
Nontitleit happeneed to me already, you just have to manually edit the x.org file07:08
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eztkn2diy: but the actual problem is aiglx resetting when control and backspace is pressed accidentally07:08
galois-Jack_Sparrow: make sure they use lame and the settings are correct07:08
Nontitleor Xfree86, if you use it07:08
Lenaud01yep :)07:09
eztkn2diy: nothing happens if I do control + alt + del07:09
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Lenaud01fluxbox just07:09
Jack_SparrowFunnyLookinHat:  Does it put in the names of the songs for you or do you need to enter them in yourself?07:09
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un_operateurLenaud01, can you try this --- w3m $HOSTNAME07:09
n2diyeztk, cool, I wonder if I have that? What is aiglx?07:09
Lenaud01sudo apt-get fluxbox?07:09
FunnyLookinHatJack_Sparrow, if you have an internet connection it can fetch them from a CD database07:09
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un_operateurLenaud01, no no, you dont need fluxbox07:09
Jack_Sparrowcool.. thanks and happy holidays to all.07:09
n2diyeztk, that is good, it is a bad Windows habit. I disable it here.07:09
antman_sup all07:09
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antman_merry xmas07:09
Lenaud01shows me the same thing un_operateur07:09
eztkhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiglx07:09
eztkI run that with Beryl07:10
eztkawesome eye candy :)07:10
Lenaud01I know I dont need it un_operateur I would just like a windows manager07:10
Rocondamahound: are there more ways?, I thought something like mc too07:10
Lenaud01and I know thats a lightweight one07:10
ecastroanybody?07:10
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un_operateurLenaud01, dont poste here -- paste to pastebin -- what does this do -- iptables -L07:10
antman_waimea is nice07:10
mahoundRoconda, through ssh? With scp!07:10
antman_just got it yesterday07:10
compengiif i have a pppe connection but not through a modem how can i set it up?07:10
un_operateurLenaud01, well, its your call -- most servers dont need a GUI .. so..07:10
dtygeleztk: but how do I discover the brand and model of my video card?07:11
Lenaud01says error un_operateur07:11
QwertyM!mepis07:11
dtygeleztk: in xorg, it's simply "general card", driver "vesa"07:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mepis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:11
compengiif i have a pppoe connection but not through a modem how can i set it up?*07:11
un_operateurLenaud01, sorry -- maybe you need to sudo that -- sudo iptables -L07:11
scamboyhelo everyone07:11
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antman_howdy07:11
dtygelcompengi: just do pppoeconf07:11
dtygelcompengi, in terminal, type "sudo pppoeconf"07:11
Lenaud01that works07:11
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Lenaud01shows me a chain input07:12
eztkdtygel: i looked in device manager,  menu system>> administration>> device manager07:12
Lenaud01chain output07:12
Lenaud01chain forward07:12
un_operateurLenaud01, ok, can you please post that to pastebin07:12
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scamboydoes ubuntu has support for pc card? cards that connects to mobile network?? i am using sony ericsson...pls help..07:12
dtygeleztk: I'm in xubuntu, which doesn't have device manager07:12
Lenaud01I can try its on a differnt computer07:12
eztkdtygel: hmmm...07:12
jengc0ilun_operateur: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38682/07:12
un_operateurLenaud01, you are using SSH right?07:12
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bmk789scamboy: your trying to use a PCMCIA edge card?07:12
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eztkdygel: can you do glxinfo07:12
dtygeleztk: I need a terminal command to detect the name and brand of my videocard07:13
dtygeleztk: I've done it07:13
dtygeleztk: and had error07:13
un_operateurjengc0il, ok -- comment out line #3  -- so that it looks like this -- # set -e07:13
eztkoh07:13
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scamboybmk789: yup07:13
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eztkdtygel : what about dmesg | more07:13
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n2diyWhat is this about? (nautilus:13337): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:07:13
n2diyAuthentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.07:13
sunnz1How do I erase a CD-RW and burn an ISO to it via the CLI?07:14
un_operateurn2diy, i suppose you are running nautilus as root eh??07:14
FunnyLookinHatAnyone know if there is a Gnome equivalent for ksmoothdock or kooldock (OS X Dock Emulators) ?07:14
Jestrescamboy: I use a Sierra Wireless EVDO card with mine, don't know about Edge stuff though07:14
scamboy!pcmia07:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pcmia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:14
n2diyun_operateur: roger07:14
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scamboyjestre: does ubuntu instals the driver automatically??07:15
bmk789scamboy: this is all the help i can give ya  http://erikstambaugh.com/gprshowto.html07:15
dtygeleztk: after typing glxinfo?07:15
Jestrescamboy: No07:15
eztkdtygel: type it in the console07:15
bmk789FunnyLookinHat: try kiba-dock?07:15
un_operateurn2diy, it's because gnome (on your machine) isn't setup to authenticate which applications are allowed to run as root -- its not an error, just a warning to you07:15
eztkdtygel: dmesg | MORE07:15
eztkoops i mean more07:15
scamboybmk789: thanks man..07:15
eztkand see what clues there are. im looking through mind now07:15
sunnz1how do I erase a CD-RW and burn an ISO to it via the CLI?07:15
eztkmien07:15
eztkmien07:15
eztkerm i mean m i n e07:15
FunnyLookinHatbmk789, it's not in repos, eh?07:15
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bmk789FunnyLookinHat: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26864507:16
RopechoborraHow to install a .deb from a terminal ?07:16
FunnyLookinHatbmk789, just found that thread  : )  thakns07:16
un_operateursunnz1, I think the command is cdburn/burncd -- something like that07:16
n2diyun_operateur: ok, I don't get that message with sudo, but I do with gksudo.07:16
bmk789Ropechoborra: sudo dpkg -i <package>07:16
RopechoborraTy07:16
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eztkdtygel: you could try dmesg | grep agpgart07:17
eztkdytgel: assuming you have an AGP graphics card07:17
jengc0ilun_operateur: after save07:17
jengc0ilun_operateur: next step?07:17
un_operateurn2diy, I believe gksudo "hides" that info from you ..07:17
compengidtygel, even if it's not through a modem?07:17
un_operateurjengc0il, after saving -- install apache-ssl :)07:17
dtygelcompengi: are you in a net of computers? if it's pppoe, one computer must be connected to a modem...07:18
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dtygeleztk: how do I know if my card is a agp card?07:18
jengc0ilkewl07:18
eztkdtygel: try the command first. see if anything comes up.07:18
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n2diyun_operateur: no, it is the opposite, I don't see it with sudo, but I do with gksude.07:18
mahoundi have a server with a uuntu minimal install07:19
mahoundand i edit the startup daemons with sysv-rc-conf, but the services won't boot at startup07:19
ZahrberAGP cards have different connects than PCIe they won't fit into any other slot except AGP07:19
mahoundany suggestion?07:19
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zyder22hey guys, I went to use ndiswrapper to install my wireless card (wmp11 v.4) and when i load the module its says the driver isnt 64 bit07:19
bulmermahound what errors at boot you get?07:20
zyder22can i install a regular x86 install even if i have a amd64 cpu?07:20
compengidtygel, it's a network formed internet which i connect to the server through pppoe which gives me an access to the net for security reasons07:20
mahoundnone07:20
mahoundthat's the problem, bulmer07:20
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Nontitlen2dly: are you using Alt+F2 or something? gksudo hides it from the console, but sudo only puts it on the console07:20
RegnusHey everyone.  I got Ubuntu installed and working okay, except for alt+enter.  It just doesnt do anything07:20
Lunar_LampI just installed a program, but it doesn't have a menu entry. How do I add one?07:20
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NontitleKDE or Gnome?07:20
Lunar_LampGnome07:21
un_operateurn2diy, errm, thats odd -- anyway, you dont configure authentication for applications unless you are on a corporate network07:21
neurosis__Lunar_Lamp: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts?07:21
bulmermahound: since its a new install can you re-install again?07:21
un_operateurn2diy, so you can safely disregard that message07:21
Nontitlei'm not sure07:21
dtygelcompengi: do you know the gateway? that menas, the address of the modem?07:21
mahoundbulmer, no :|07:21
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Lunar_Lampneurosis__, ?! I think you go the wrong guy...07:21
Nontitleneurosis__: thats not to add it to the MENU07:21
n2diyun_operateur: roger.07:21
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neurosis__Regnus: : System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts?07:21
neurosis__Lunar_Lamp: Indeed :)07:21
dtygelcompengi: do you have access to the computer which is connected to the modem?07:22
un_operateurdtygel, modems dont have IP addresses  -- if they do, they're called routers :)07:22
compengidtygel, nope07:22
Ant_1hi to all07:22
bulmermahound: you may have to boot from live cd, and take a look at those drives from there...ie mount it and edit the init scripts07:22
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Nontitlethe computer with the modem has an IP address07:23
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mahoundbulmer, it's a VPS :|07:23
compengidtygel, the main computer plays the role of a router07:23
un_operateurcompengi, how is your PPPoE physical-connection connected to this computer?07:23
Alwahello07:23
Ant_1hello alwa07:23
un_operateurNontitle, then the computer becomes the "router" :)07:23
compengiun_operateur, it's through a LAN (network card)07:23
bulmermahound: sorry am not familiar with VPS..07:23
Alwacan someone help me ... i have some problems with my wlan#07:23
Nontitleoh yeah, i guess so07:23
un_operateurcompengi, and thats connected upto the PPPoE modem right?07:23
magic_ninjawhenever i boot my computer i get an error, the juicest part of it is "/bin/sh:can't access tty; job control turned off07:24
magic_ninja(initramfs)  <--thats the command prompt and on top of that my keyboard isn't detected07:24
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bmk789Alwa: whats your problem?07:24
compengiun_operateur, nope it's connected to the main server07:24
ZahrberALwa: Aks your question if anyone can help they will07:24
compengiun_operateur, a pc07:24
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pm2Hi - I'm running the latest version of kubuntu.  I'm trying to run a program that accesses the soundcard via /dev/dsp.  It can read from the soundcard input ok, but when it tries to use the soundcard to make a sound, it gets an error message saying "device or resource busy."07:24
sunnz1hhttp://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialCDBurn.html07:24
pm2I tried disabling ARTS in the KDE system config, but I still get the same problem.  Any ideas?07:24
un_operateurcompengi, so, this computer connects via ethernet to a main server? is that it?07:24
galois-compengi: could you draw a small pic e.g: modem --- server --- PC07:24
Alwaif i scan the wlan cart dont found my router07:25
bulmermagic_ninja: its a new install?07:25
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bulmerAlwa: what kind of chips does your wifi card have?07:25
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Alwabcm43xx07:25
ubuntu_d07:25
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Alwain a acer notebook07:25
un_operateurmagic_ninja, you get that message because linux has somehow failed to start up right07:26
bmk789Alwa: bcm43xx is one of the harder chipsets to setup, i have it running now though07:26
magic_ninjaun_operateur: but i continually get it so i must change something in order for it to work correct?07:26
sunnz1How do I erase a CD-RW and burn an ISO to it via the CLI?07:26
bulmerAlwa: whats the status if you do a  iwconfig wlan0 ?07:26
bmk789Alwa: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear07:26
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un_operateurmagic_ninja, if it complains about keyboard errors -- its quite likely that its a physical problem with the keyboard or PS/2 port -- check to see if the keyb is plugged in right and works ok during POST07:27
bmk789bulmer: my bcm43xx shows as eth1, so wlan0 might not be it07:27
zyder22hey guys will a regular x86 install work with a amd64 processor?07:27
bulmersunnz1: which gui tool you use to burn cd? look in the properties and you see the cli command behind it07:27
bmk789zyder22: yes07:27
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dtygelcompengi: one computer must be connected to a modem. Then we must know where your computer is connected to: a switch?07:27
un_operateurzyder22, errm, it shouldnt do :)07:27
bulmerbmk789: then use  iwconfig eth107:27
sunnz1bulmer I don't have any access to GUI tools, that's why i want to do it via cli.07:28
surfbuddyhi... this is my 12th hour in installing ubuntu... on an external usb disk // hope someone can help me .. i have 2 disks, 1 internal and the other external USB on my laptop....i wanted to installl ubuntu on my external usb, but i am facing problems on the 5th / 6 stage ( partitioning )07:28
magic_ninjabulmer: no sir07:28
zyder22damn, i was originally going to do that, but i didn't plan on using linux as much as i now plan on it07:28
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zyder22its tough with internet.. by the way thanks for your guys help yesterday07:28
bulmersunnz1: i forget these commands myself..hang on let me see whats behind the gui07:29
compengiun_operateur, my computer is connected via network to the main server (another computer) then this server is connected either via satellite or anything else discarding modem07:29
sunnz1thx bulmer07:29
zyder22i used the alternate install and had to change the video driver to vesa to get to a gui07:29
surfbuddyalthough i already have my /dev/sda1 as ext3 partition , still it forces me to repartition it.. !!07:29
Alwathe card is detected on eth107:29
magic_ninjaun_operateur: the keyboard does it just don't get detected, i did hook up another old hdd and it couldnt be set up as a primary slave so it forced itself as the primary master and booted into windows 98, but it looked like an hdd with just windows setup files so i think grub may have a problem07:29
surfbuddyi mean reformat it.07:29
idlemindgood morning all07:29
timo901restart x server ?07:29
bulmersunnz1: start googling for a command called  cdrecord or man cdrecord07:29
bmk789Alwa: what does iwconfig eth1 give?07:29
un_operateurcompengi, if thats the case, why are you trying to configure PPPoE on this computer?? you should just be able to use the server as your gateway and that be that07:29
mahoundhow do i reinstall something?07:30
surfbuddyand if i reformat it... then it says partitioning failed. !!!!!!! any helppppppp07:30
compengidtygel, it's a very huge network like hundreds of pcs' are connected to it so modem won't make it out ;)07:30
mahoundforcing apt-get to do it?07:30
sunnz1bulmer i did man cdrecord, just can't figure out how to use it...07:30
LjLmahound: sudo apt-get --reinstall install <package>07:30
surfbuddyi mean formatting failed.07:30
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Alwaeth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:"Motorola"  Nickname:"Broadcom 4318"07:30
Alwa          Mode:Managed  Frequency=2.484 GHz  Access Point: Invalid07:30
Alwa          Bit Rate=1 Mb/s   Tx-Power=19 dBm07:30
Alwa          RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off07:30
Alwa          Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:007:30
Alwa          Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:007:30
erUSULmahound: you first uninstall it and then install it again07:30
Alwa          Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:007:30
bulmersunnz1: maybe google will give some examples how to record, erase, etc07:30
idlemindmahound: use synaptic07:30
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ubotuAlwa: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)07:30
idlemindmahound: what are trying to re-install07:30
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un_operateurmagic_ninja, does the keyboard work on this computer during POST (immediately after power on) or not?07:30
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surfbuddycan please anyone help me.. with my quesiton posted above. ?07:31
compengiun_operateur, because without the login (username and password) i won't be able to connect to the net07:31
sunnz1bulmer i did, but i cant get it to find what it names my burner.07:31
mahoundidlemind, base-utils07:31
jengc0i1un_operateur: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38684/07:31
bmk789Alwa: so Motorola is your ssid?07:31
jengc0i1:(07:31
un_operateurcompengi, is the server a PPPoE server??07:31
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LameBMXHi all07:31
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bulmersunnz1: look at the command mount  it will tell you what devices cdrom or dvd are mounted07:31
Alwahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38685/07:31
Ant_1hi LameBMX07:31
LameBMXi got a crappy ? lol07:32
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magic_ninjait looks like mabye a busybox error or such07:32
sunnz1bulmer cdrecord doesn't use the usual mount points.07:32
LameBMXfollowed the wiki for beryl on edgy07:32
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sunnz1bulmer, the problem is that i cant figure out what to pass to cdrecord.07:32
LameBMXand it seems i have to disable fastwrites07:32
compengiun_operateur, yeah07:32
bulmersunnz1: what do you meant by that usual mount point...mount points can be any specified directories07:32
bmk789Alwa: if that looks right run sudo dhclient eth1 and see if it connects07:32
magic_ninjaun_operateur: do i really need job control enabled to effect system performance and such?07:32
un_operateurjengc0i1, is there a reason why you are installing apache1 .. why dont you install apache2??07:32
LameBMXoh 9800xt on an ic7 max307:32
surfbuddyis it cumpulsory to go through the gparted thing while installing ubuntu ???07:33
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sunnz1bulmer, i mean, cdrecorder doesnt take /dev/hdc as a device, but something in the form of 1,0,007:33
un_operateurcompengi, what i mean is -- is the server the server that authenticates your username and password??07:33
bulmerbmk789: thats a good tip..i have trouble getting my wifi card to connect too..07:33
sunnz1bulmer and i cant figure out how it works.07:33
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compengiun_operateur, yeah that's right07:33
tomwcan GRUB peacefully exist on an existing FAT32 partition07:33
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bulmersunnz1: hang on..let me look at some notes too..07:34
sunnz1thx07:34
surfbuddyis it cumpulsory to go through the gparted thing while installing ubuntu ???07:34
jmiller565merry Christmas to all those that celebrate it07:34
Shadow_milMerry Christmas Eve Everyone!07:34
un_operateurmagic_ninja, its simple -- if you are at busybox ash -- its because linux cant proceed further because of some problem (in your case hardware error) there is no safe way it'll go on loading..07:34
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Alwabmk789: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38686/07:34
un_operateurcompengi, are you in control of that server?07:34
sunnz1Shadow_mil have been xmas for 5 hours here!!07:35
bmk789Alwa: ok, the driver isnt installed correctly, did you follow the install guide for the bcm43xx?07:35
compengiun_operateur, no, i'm an ordinary user07:35
Shadow_milsunnz1: lol...07:35
magic_ninjaun_operateur: but i'm in a linux live cd right now and it boots fine07:35
magic_ninjaun_operateur: hence the problem...07:35
Shadow_milsunnz1: well 1/2 of the world its xmas... other half its not...07:36
Alwai have follow th egide at wiki.ubuntuusers.de07:36
sunnz1Shadow_mill, time zone madness...07:36
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bmk789Alwa: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear07:37
un_operateurmagic_ninja, the live cd .. does it's best to get to the desktop -- i mean it wouldnt be good to pop a prospective user at a busy box shell , would it? in any case _please pay attention_ to errors linux gives you, they do mean something07:37
bmk789Alwa: thats what got mine working07:37
surfbuddyext3 file system creation fails everytime on my external usb07:38
magic_ninjaun_operateur: the problem was that i had no idea what busybox was07:38
surfbuddyany help ?07:38
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un_operateurcompengi, ok, thats sorted then --- what does pppoeconf so/say?07:38
magic_ninjai don't really have a great understanding of how linux boots and such, thats why I want to do a LFS to learn07:39
fbcWill ubuntu work well as an enterprise server for filesharing and roaming profiles for other ubuntu workstations???07:39
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bmk789magic_ninja: gentoo can teach you a lot about linux too07:39
un_operateurmagic_ninja, it's a simple shell utility - small enough to fit entirely on RAM on systems that are in shortage of it -- it's so emergency and administrative tasks can be performed at the most inopportune moments07:39
Alwabmk789: this is for dapper i have edgy ... is this okay07:39
magic_ninjaun_operateur: i see07:40
evomagic ninja: download the o'reilly book on LPI certification. www.ebooksclub.org very good book07:40
magic_ninjaun_operateur: so when i fix this problem i'm going to HAVE to do it through this shell07:40
LameBMXyea its how i figured out the fastwrite option in xorg.conf kept me from booting07:40
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un_operateurmagic_ninja, whats the exact error you see above the busybox notice>07:40
un_operateur?07:40
jengc0i1un_operateur: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38684/07:40
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magic_ninjaevo: i will do that when i get this fixed07:40
magic_ninjaun_operateur: luckily for me i got this handy laptop, with the full error07:41
bmk789Alwa: id imagine that guide would work the same07:41
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Alwaokay thx i check this tomorro ...07:41
juanoive got a Media Device: failed to create lockfile on iPod mounted at /media/ipod: Read-only file system on amarok, its a motorola rokr E1 with itunes, anyone know about this issue?07:41
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un_operateurjengc0i1, dont install this then -- it doesnt seem like it will install -- just install apache2 -- mod_ssl can be enabled with little issue there07:41
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fbcWill ubuntu work well as an enterprise server for filesharing and roaming profiles for other ubuntu workstations???07:42
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magic_ninjahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38691/07:42
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un_operateurjuano, it's quite likely the ipod device was mounted by you - a normal user, i dunno how it is done, but try and mount it as root07:43
bosozokuserver irc.blessed.net07:43
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kakalakehello07:43
m12I get choppy audio in VLC and no audio in Firefox for 1 user, but for another user (my mythtv user) I have no audio problems.  What could be causing 1 user to have audio problems (with only certain applications) and not the other users?07:43
magic_ninjaun_operateur: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38691/   that is the full error07:43
un_operateurmagic_ninja, ok07:43
juanoi mount it as root yes07:43
un_operateurfbc, sure07:43
juanomy mtab is:07:43
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magic_ninjaun_operateur: brb07:43
kakalakejoder07:43
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un_operateurmagic_ninja, lol -- i need the exact error above this notice :)07:43
bmk789m12: user in the audio group?07:43
kakalakeaca nadie habla espaol?07:43
juanoun_operateur: /dev/sda1         /media/ipod   vfat      noauto,users,rw,sync,nodev,umask=0000 0 007:43
SupersCordeshello every budy07:43
bmk789m12: and same alsa settings and such?07:43
m12bmk789:  I might have messed up the audio group.  What is that file name again?07:44
SupersCordesis it possible to choose the different packages installed along the install process?07:44
un_operateurjuano, is that an excerpt from your fstab?07:44
juanomy mtab07:44
bmk789m12: use usermod after reading its man page07:44
darth_schmooHas anyone ever run across a problem where apache2 was creating the access and error logs, but only seems to write to the error log?  (I'm running on Ubuntu, and the people in #apache are out of ideas)07:44
magic_ninjaun_operateur: back07:45
kakalakehow07:45
un_operateurjuano, does it have an entry in fstab?07:45
kakalakeim have problem07:45
un_operateurmagic_ninja, thats just the prompt -- not the error :)07:45
juanoun_operateur: nope it doesnt07:45
kakalakein ubuntu07:45
juanoonly in fstab07:45
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viktorhey07:45
magic_ninjaun_operateur: there is no error above that notice that sthe full screen07:45
jengc0i1un_operateur: ok tq07:45
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SupersCordesun_operateur: are you french?07:46
jack_Does Ubuntu (Edgy Eft) come with a partitioning program and, if so, how do I access it?07:46
un_operateurjuano, unmount it and remount it -- sudo umount /media/ipod; sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda /media/ipod07:46
juanok .. sec07:46
un_operateurSupersCordes, non, its just a nom-de-plume07:46
un_operateur:)07:46
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m12bmk789:  audio line is like this:  audio:x:29:matthew,mythtv  should the users not be separated by commas?07:47
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bmk789they should07:47
juanoun_operateur:  root@Pollo:/home/juano# sudo umount /media/ipod07:47
juanoCannot create link /etc/mtab~07:47
juanoPerhaps there is a stale lock file?07:47
fbcun_operateur: have you ever used it as a server?07:47
SupersCordesso is it possible to install ubuntu on a 2Go HD ?07:47
juanosec07:47
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un_operateurjuano, thats a problem on your local machine now07:48
cypruserDoes Ubuntu (Edgy Eft) come with a partitioning program and, if so, how do I access it?07:48
un_operateurfbc, I have indeed yes07:48
un_operateurSupersCordes, sure -- but you will need a minimal install07:48
finnhow can I set the system to automatically pair with my bluetooth keyboard??07:48
magic_ninjacypruser: gparted, qtparted07:48
bmk789cypruser: gparted?07:48
cypruserOk, how can I access it?07:48
magic_ninjafdisk07:48
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darth_schmoocypruser, use fdisk.  All the cool kids use fdisk.07:49
SupersCordesun_operateur:  how did I force ubuntu 6.06 to install just the less things?07:49
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juanosec.. sorry un_operateur, got mixed up line i nmtab07:49
juanolet me check now07:49
fbcun_operateur: How would you describe that experience? Are there wizards that coach you through doing common administration stuff? Did you have go through a lot of docs just to get some of the simplest things done?07:49
evocypuser: you can use cfdisk if you want, it's a little more intuitive07:49
darth_schmoocypruser:  Just open up a shell and type gparted, or fdisk, or whatever the name is of the program you want to run.07:50
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cypruserWhich is better: gparted or fdisk?07:50
slickyhow do i mount a mds/mdf image file?07:50
m12gparted is easier07:50
magic_ninjaun_operateur: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=292533&page=3 that post right there is similar to my problem, i told you guys earlier i was copying files from old hdds (one was a windows 98 hd and took the prim master, my actual hdd didn't get detected, and now i think it might be a grub problem)07:50
finnany ideas how I could do this?07:51
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pianoboy3333What does "StartupNotify" do in a .desktop file?07:51
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magic_ninjaun_operateur: however i have my boot set for ubuntu to quiet, if i can set it to verbose from this livecd i can get you more information07:52
beter1I need to update my firmware on prism chipset 802.11 card, I am told hostap-utils should help with this. how do I get the hostap kernel module loaded? my card was using orinoco however I have blacklisted it07:52
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juanoun_operateur:  mmm no luck07:53
juanoits mounted there07:53
juanoon /media/ipod07:53
evomagicninja: have you looked in your /etc/fstab file07:53
bulmersunnz1: if you are still around..   cdrecord --scanbus  but it seems its a buggy version i have..so you have to search for --scanbus07:53
cypruserHow do I unhide a partition?07:55
juanoevo: yes, no line there including /dev/sda107:55
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juanoevo: plus now theres no one in mtab07:55
juanobut its there on desktop07:56
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juanoevo: i can go in.. and also in /media/ipod07:56
evothat's wierd07:56
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juanoyeah.. i had a line in mtab07:56
juanothen i changed it07:56
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beter1is anyone using the hostap module with ubuntu?07:57
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juanoevo: root@Pollo:/etc# umount /dev/sda1 /media/ipod07:58
juanoCannot create link /etc/mtab~07:58
juanoPerhaps there is a stale lock file?07:58
LordUltimaDavidi tried to use orca and now i have no sound, can some on tell me what went wrong?07:58
cypruserHow do I unhide a partition?07:58
LameBMXhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38694/ <-- my xorg.comf07:58
slickyhow do i mount a mds/mdf image file?07:58
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ivoksubuntu-hr is happy to announce ubuntu ningi 6.10 release, first ningi release ever :)07:58
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evojuano: so you can go in, read files? Can you copy them to you ext3 partition07:59
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fbcun_operateur: still there?07:59
LameBMXcomp wont boot with fastwrites not commented out ... but comment out to boot .. then change and log out and back in and beryl is back working fine07:59
bmk789ivoks: ?07:59
juanoevo: yes07:59
fbcbmk789:  no, ewoks.07:59
ivoksbmk789: nigni is a single DVD with installer for ubuntu, xubuntu, edubuntu, kubuntu and ubuntu-server. it also contains most popular packages used by ubuntu users08:00
bmk789cool08:00
ivoksfor most of the users, this is only DVD they'll ever need08:00
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bmk789ivoks: torrent on linuxtracker?08:00
ivoksbmk789:08:00
ivokssorry :)08:00
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d34l3rnick d3413r08:00
surfbuddyi have a question about prepare mount points.. how many mt points are necesary to instal ubuntu ?08:00
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fbcivoks:  where can I get nigni?08:00
ivokshttp://www.ubuntu-hr.org/ningi/08:01
ivoksplease test it, and report bugs (if any) on ningi@ubuntu-hr.org08:01
juanoevo: any ideas?08:01
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bmk789ivoks: no torrent?08:01
bmk789could save a lot of bandwidth08:02
ivoksbmk789: not yet :/08:02
bmk789ill put one up if you want08:02
ivoksbmk789: this is 1gbit/s link :)08:02
fbcivoks: Great! I'm starting to do a big rollout of ubuntu for an entire municipality, this might come in handy.08:02
rapidLanceBMX: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38695/08:02
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evonot directly juano, i don't use an iPod myself. I'm gone look if i can help you.08:03
juanothanks08:03
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juanok08:03
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ivoksfbc: it installs classic *ubuntu desktops, but makes stuff like java etc available on one DVD08:03
fbcConverting 350 windows workstations to ubuntu with an ubuntu server running nfs and other services..08:03
IndyGunFreaksounds like quite an endeavor08:04
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bmk789downloading....7 hours left :(08:04
ivoks+ it contains all updates to edgy released till today08:04
ivoksbmk789: it's 4.3GB :)08:04
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Ropechoborra!paste08:05
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)08:05
Eclypseanyone use Cedega in here and play Warcraft III?08:05
rapid!anyone08:05
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?08:05
fbcIndyGunFreak:  Well, here in Mexico, there isn't alot of money for legit windows licenses and server software... so if I can teach them how to setup and maintain their free network, they might not have to worry about windows ever again...08:05
TooR4uit is possible to set automatic messages through gaim>08:05
TooR4u?08:05
Music_ShuffleEclypse, not I.08:05
IndyGunFreakfbc, makes sense08:05
Eclypsehaha, I hate what happens to popular channels like this.08:06
grimeboySo I've got an mpg in the exact right format for a DVD. How do I make the dvd?08:06
Music_ShuffleTooR4u, what sort of automatic messages?08:06
Eclypseturns into a huge bot channel with tons of regulation and things you can and cannot do. reminds me of religion08:06
IndyGunFreakEclypse: What happens?08:06
LameBMXrapid, so the values for that are true and false ? ... i pasted my config from the wiki .. n e hints on how to get that updates?08:06
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evil_Is there a startup file in ubuntu?08:06
nolimitsoyaEclypse, well, it wouldnt be very nice to have 878 yes/no awnsers popping up to your question, would it? ;)08:06
LameBMXafter i reboot to test of course08:06
lupine_85evil_: /etc/init.d/rc2.d08:06
lupine_85plenty of them there08:06
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Fenix-Darkhey08:06
Eclypseand of course there are good justifications to make the person stating such things seem like an idiot who is making a big deal out of nothing.08:06
Fenix-Darkwhats the default root pass for the ubuntu 5.10 live cd?08:06
rapidLameBMX, edit your xorg.conf manually and change the value to true08:07
lupine_85erm, /etc/rc2.d rather08:07
rapidtheres no root08:07
LameBMXi already did08:07
lupine_85Fenix-Dark: <return>08:07
rapidafaik08:07
IndyGunFreakafaik!08:07
Fenix-Darkrapid, has no root user?08:07
Eclypseanyways, I try launching Warcraft III in cedega and after reading the CD for over 20 seconds it says no cd found...08:07
LameBMXbut that dont help the wiki if this is the issues .. which will have others setting it to "On"08:07
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Music_Shufflelupine_85, seriously?08:07
lupine_85Fenix-Dark: root is non-interactive. Use sudo to pretend to be root.08:07
rapidFenix-Dark, correct.08:07
IdleOneFenix-Dark, use sudo08:07
Eclypseand I've tried many things to fix this and I can't seem to figure out how  . . .08:07
bmk789Fenix-Dark: cant just use sudo08:07
nolimitsoyaEclypse, this isnt the cedeca support channel. your problem lies with them08:07
Fenix-Darkok08:07
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lupine_85Music_Shuffle: yep08:07
IndyGunFreakEclype: Codeweavers supposedly works very well with WoW08:07
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IndyGunFreakhttp://www.codeweavers.com08:07
Eclypsenolimitsoya uh huh, now send me off to a channel of nothing but afk people?08:08
Eclypseindygunfreak I don't use WoW...08:08
rapidmaybe the disc is dirty? :)08:08
IndyGunFreakoh, my bad08:08
Music_ShuffleHeheh08:08
nolimitsoyaEclypse, if cedega cant support their software, thats their problem. noone in here is able to :)08:08
IndyGunFreaki thougth you wanted a question on World of Warcraft08:08
Eclypsenolimitsoya, I highly doubt nobody in here can help me.08:08
Eclypseno, it was on Warcraft 308:09
IndyGunFreakEclypse: then why ask?08:09
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EclypseHUGE difference08:09
IndyGunFreakright, my mistake.08:09
Music_ShuffleWell, -apparently-, nobody in here can...08:09
LameBMXwell i shall return if that help .. thank you rapid08:09
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Eclypseindygunfreak, you misread.08:09
fbcIndyGunFreak: I'm also gonna setup their municipal website with JOOMLA in spanish and show them how to administer that darn thing and create pages, etc... getting technology into the hands of the technically deprived is tough sometimes...08:09
IndyGunFreakthe most intense game i play is KSirtet08:09
Music_ShuffleHaha08:09
bjamesHi all, is there a Windows application that can allow me to use an xdmcp connection to a Linux box?08:09
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IndyGunFreakno, you said you doubt anyone here can help you, so i said, so why did you bother asking08:09
IndyGunFreaki didn't suggest i didn't misread08:09
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nolimitsoyaIndyGunFreak, no he didnt. he used a double negation08:10
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rapidbjames: google should know if you use a good search syntax08:10
evil_Anyone know a good application to burn video DVD's?08:10
Eclypseindygunfreak, dude, you misread that.08:10
bmk789bjames: maybe putty can do something08:10
Music_ShuffleIndeed, mucking about with emulation and more demanding games is not something I care enough about my gaming to be willing to do.08:10
IdleOneEclypse, try #cedega this is an ubuntu help channel if it turns out that the problem is Ubuntu related then you can come back here and then try and get help with it08:10
rapid!k3b08:10
ubotuk3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto08:10
magic_ninjaun_operateur: i think i have found some useful information   fdisk -l gives me this output Partition table entries are not in disk order08:10
eimajenthatI'm running Ubuntu Ubuntu (i.e. Gnome), but there's a qt app I want to run.  I heard about a tool that will make qt apps use the gtk widgets.  What's it called?08:10
nolimitsoyaIndyGunFreak, normaly people dont use double negations to avoid misunderstandings, but that was one :)08:10
Music_Shuffle!qt08:10
ubotuQt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI. Install the libqt3-mt-dev package to compile Qt applications08:10
Eclypseindygunfreak, I said I doubt that there isn't anyone in here that can help me.08:10
IndyGunFreakfbc:  like i said, sounds like quite an endeavor08:10
Eclypseindygunfreak hence ISN'T08:10
IndyGunFreakoh, i follow,08:10
IndyGunFreak!english08:10
ubotuThe #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat08:10
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Eclypseumm, what was the point of saying that?08:11
EclypseI am speaking english.08:11
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IndyGunFreaknothing.08:11
Music_ShuffleMore like !usage, but whatever. :P08:11
IndyGunFreaklol08:11
nolimitsoyaEclypse, this is turning highly off topic...08:11
compengi!restricted08:11
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:11
IndyGunFreakMusic_Shuffle: is quite a comedian08:11
Music_ShuffleQuick, someone ask a question that I can answer so I feel useful! ^_^08:11
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pucko-!hostap08:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hostap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:12
Eclypsenolimitsoya, what's soo bad about offtopic? why do people hate it so. I mean, without off-topic, this is just another boring unlively support channel, and yes I am aware of the offtopic channel which isn't that interesting.08:12
nolimitsoya!fishing | pucko-08:12
ubotupucko-: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...08:12
jgedeonMusic_Shuffle: where is my Any Key that I am supposed to press?08:12
Music_Shuffle!offtopic08:12
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!08:12
IndyGunFreakMusic_Shuffle: is there anywhere to post high scores on Kirstet?08:12
IndyGunFreaklol, maybe that will make you feel useful08:12
Music_ShuffleAhh! I said simple! SIMPLE! ;P08:12
Music_ShuffleLike 'how do I turn off the computer'-type simple! ./Can teach how to do THAT quite well.08:12
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nolimitsoyaEclypse, there is an offtopic channel at #ubuntu-offtopic. keep it there. there are real people in here that want real supprt. please dont block their way with third party software support that doesnt belong here, or offtopic chatter08:13
evil_Anyone know a good AVI to dvd encoder?08:13
Eclypsenolimitsoya, does anyone actually read what I say here? I said I KNOW about the offtopic channel.08:13
nolimitsoyaevil_, what about devede?08:13
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Music_Shufflejgedeon, was that a serious question? >.>08:13
evil_nolimitsoya: I will check it out, thanks08:13
yuesefahow can i reload the path08:13
jgedeonLOL08:13
Music_Shuffle;P08:13
nolimitsoyaEclypse, thats beside the point i was making. knowing you are wrong doesnt make it right08:14
Zahrberevil_:K3b does encoding08:14
rapidyuesefa, log out and log in08:14
evil_Zahrber: Really?08:14
eimajenthatMusic_Shuffle:  I'm running Ubuntu Ubuntu (i.e. Gnome), but there's a qt app I want to run.  I heard about a tool that will make qt apps use the gtk widgets.  What's it called?08:14
Zahrberevil_: yes it does08:14
rapidevil_: i mentioned k3b already.08:14
yuesefarapid: any comand?08:14
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Zahrberevil_: and is simpleto use08:14
IndyGunFreakeimajenthat: Ubuntu Ubuntu, I like that.08:14
evil_rapid + Zahrber: Alright..Thanks both of you :)08:15
Music_ShuffleIndyGunFreak, I know! I have no idea how to help him, but just using that term has already endeared him to me. xD08:15
eimajenthatIndyGunFreak:  thanks08:15
rapidyuesefa, I don't use ubuntu, but if you know how to logout, and log back in try that.08:15
IndyGunFreaklol08:15
IndyGunFreakI've always thought Ubuntu(Gnome) should be called Gubuntu.08:15
Music_Shuffleeimajenthat, http://dot.kde.org/1073599985/08:15
Music_ShuffleIs that what you're looking for?08:15
IndyGunFreakit would be les confusing.08:15
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Music_ShuffleNot sure, I might just be being eejit again.08:16
nolimitsoyaIndyGunFreak, file a bugreport ;)08:16
ZahrberThen should Enlightenment + ubuntu be Eubuntu08:16
rapidEclypse, try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4540708:16
Music_Shufflenolimitsoya, how would that read? 'I'd like to file a bug' 'With?' 'Ubuntu' 'What about Ubuntu' 'ALL of it.' ;P08:16
Zahrberand Blackbox + ubuntu be Bubuntu08:17
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eimajenthatMusic_Shuffle: That's the opposite.  It makes GTK apps look like qt ones.  Maybe I remembered wrong and there's not a gadget to go the other way.08:17
nolimitsoyaMusic_Shuffle, file a bug on naming, stating that its inconsistent and confusing. if noone likes the idea, itll be dropped. at least itll stirr up some debate08:17
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EclypseTHERE WE GO! A real answer. see I just went to cedega and someone told me to fart on the damn cd to get it to work, seriously, I think you guys should expand your support topics.08:17
Music_ShuffleOh.  Well, it sounds ok to me.  And people saying 'Ubuntu Ubuntu' make me feel better.08:18
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Music_ShuffleRight, because its a Cedega problem.08:18
Music_Shuffle;P08:18
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ZahrberBUT you can install ubuntu then KDE and use KDE instead of Gnome08:18
Eclypseerm08:18
Eclypseomg08:18
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Eclypsedude, you didn't even answer my question, damnit08:18
Eclypsejust told me to get wine . . .08:18
evil_I cannot seem to find any options in k3b to encode an AVI file to DVD, only DVD to AVI08:18
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Music_ShuffleMe?08:18
Music_ShuffleO_o08:18
linux_user400354whats the commands to get selinux to not block my public_html from being seen on the web?08:19
P3L|C4N0greetings08:19
juanoive got a Media Device: failed to create lockfile on iPod mounted at /media/ipod: Read-only file system on amarok, its a motorola rokr E1 with itunes, anyone know about this issue?08:19
evojuano: i can be a problem with the permissions on the lock directory, try ls -ld /var/lock08:19
nolimitsoyaEclypse, please, drop it. youve payed for software. go get the support you payed for, and if you dont get it, srew them over good. the people in here arent getting payed, and noone has payed for their support either08:19
juanok sec08:19
nolimitsoya*screw08:19
Music_Shufflenolimitsoya, not like I don't dream about being paid to offer my $.02 every few hours. ;P08:20
juanoevo:  empty dir08:20
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nolimitsoyaMusic_Shuffle, start a blog with a paypal button ;P08:20
Eclypsenolimitsoya, didn't pay for cedega . . . ;)08:20
evojuano : i found an interesting link http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Serial-HOWTO-17.html08:20
juanno08:20
Music_ShuffleXDDDDD08:20
juanogreat.. thanks for the help08:20
juanoill check it out08:20
juanis very dyficult linux08:21
nolimitsoyaEclypse, then you arent entitled to any support at all, are you? ;)08:21
Music_ShuffleHaha08:21
evojuano : hope you can fix this!08:21
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juanohope so! :)08:21
juanalgun espaol08:21
Eclypsenolimitsoya, why the hell do you think I'm here?08:21
juancontestar por favor08:21
Music_Shufflejuan08:21
Music_Shuffle!es08:21
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.08:21
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Music_ShuffleNo podemos dar ayuda a usted aqui.08:22
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ZahrberEclypse: the same reason we are all here, we have nothing better to do08:22
Eclypsezahrber probably . . . I just want to get my game working already.08:22
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Naik0Hey how can i show my home folder on my desk?08:23
ZahrberEclypse: what game?08:23
LameBMXrapid, that still didnt help ... i had to comment it back out too boot .. but this time beryl is nice and peppy without having to uncomment it and log out and back in08:23
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fbc!xbuntu08:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xbuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:23
ZahrberNAiko: create a Link on your desktop08:23
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tapiwaI want to download ubuntu, I managed to download 1 iso file, is it the rest of ubuntu? I have seen distro with 2 dvd like debian and 1 dvd suse linux08:23
theblueAnyone know if Jpilot or KPilot would work for the Palm TX?08:23
Eclypsezahrber Warcraft 308:23
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nolimitsoya!xubuntu | fbc08:23
ubotufbc: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"08:23
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mnoirNaik0: justy drag it from the menu08:23
Naik0but i remember i write something in the term08:23
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mnoirjust*08:24
Naik0and i can choose alot of stuf08:24
un_operateurtapiwa, yes, thats all of ubuntu :)08:24
Naik0something with conf08:24
ZahrberEclypse: I think Warcraft 3 works pretty well under Wine if I remember correctly08:24
fbcnolimitsoya: Why would someone chose the xfce interface? What are the advantages?08:24
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rapidfbc: you try and find out yourself08:24
nolimitsoyafbc, personal preference, and its more lightweight08:24
rapidor that.08:24
un_operateurfbc, its lighter and takes up less space than gnome or kde08:24
noodles13i am runnin on a machine w/ very low ram. I tried installing xfce4 adn it was still slow so i'm am using fluxbox now and it is a little faster. Does having gnome and xfce4 installed previously hinder the possible speed increases that come with fluxbox?08:25
fbcahh08:25
Zahrberfbc: XFCE is better under older slower hardware08:25
fbcun_operateur: How would you describe that experience? Are there wizards that coach you through doing common administration stuff? Did you have go through a lot of docs just to get some of the simplest things done?08:25
hq4evermy sound card has stopped working after reboot. I'm using edgy.08:25
hq4eversnd                    58372  8 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer08:25
nolimitsoyanoodles13, somewhat. ubuntu is pretty big, and not designed towards leagcy hardware08:25
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nolimitsoyanoodles13, you might want to check out dsl :)08:25
hq4everare loaded, whats wrong?08:25
un_operateurfbc, you mean the xfce experience? how to get things done under xfce?08:25
EclypseZahrber I've already gone through the trouble of getting it installed through cedega, I'm not installing wine.08:25
tapiwaun_operateur: does that mean that I have to search the web for more packages? What does the distro come with - does it have openoffice, java sdk, perl, python, cdrecord etc?08:25
noodles13nolimitsoya: does dsl have the same hardware support and noob friendly interface that ubuntu has?08:26
nolimitsoyanoodles13, you could also try out fluxbuntu, but thats still in development. i suggest dsl08:26
un_operateurtapiwa, yes there are ubuntu repositories that contain non-standard and non-free software which you can always download later08:26
LameBMXfluxbox rox08:26
nolimitsoyanoodles13, well, try it and find out. :) it depends on your needs08:26
ZahrberEclypse: you should install wine anyhow for lots of other apps and games, so why won't Cedega work08:26
juanoevo: the thing is it sais that the /media/ipod is only readonly-filesystem, cause when i try a chmod +w /media/ipod i get permissions changed to /media/ipod read-only file system08:26
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fbcun_operateur: No with setting up ubuntu as a server?08:26
nolimitsoyanoodles13, they are both debian based, btw08:26
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fbcun_operateur: No with setting up ubuntu as a server, and administering it.08:26
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Eclypsezahrber, it tries reading the wc3 cd for over 20 seconds, then it says no cd found.08:27
juanoits wierd though, its in vfat08:27
AnythingJI am trying to load XUbuntu on my thinkpad 600X.  Once I select "Start or install Xubuntu" it gives me the error message "PCI: cannot allocate resource to region 0 of device 0000:00:02.0, invalid compressed format (err=1), kernel anic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unkown-block(1,0)"08:27
Eclypsezahrber, hela people had this problem apparently. but none in which really tell you how to fix it....08:27
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Eclypsezahrber it's really /really/ annoying08:27
noodles13nolimitsoya: yay deb based distros =)08:27
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nolimitsoyaEclypse, we dont support pirated third party software, for the last time :)08:27
tapiwaun_operateur: I will be off to try and install the op sys, I am using a number of op sys. so far I prefer suse 10.1, I am looking forward to using ubuntu, Any recommendations as far as packages that I can use08:27
ZahrberEclypse: I am not a gamers under Linux, I boot windows to play games then reboot Linux for everything else08:28
nolimitsoyaEclypse, use wine, and come back when it breaks. otherwize, harass the cedega support after youve payd what you owe08:28
Eclypsenolimitsoya, you have no proof that it actually is pirated.08:28
noodles13nolimitsoya: sopmeone before suggested i install a vanilla kernel that would speed thigns up a bit... but i ended up jacking everything up and had to re-install >.<08:28
tapiwaun_operateur: Could you please post the urls to the repositories?08:28
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ZahrberEclypse: go to a Cedega channel they will be able to help08:28
un_operateurfbc, well, the experience is what i call enlightening -- it teaches you a lot about how networking happens, why choosing better strategies works better in some situations and not others -- it can get frustrating at first because it's all done manually without much help from automating tools -- but definitely fullfilling at the end08:28
Eclypseuh08:28
sackerEclypse You started that you didn't pay for Cedega, which is not free08:28
Eclypseso far they just tol d me to fart on the bloody CD.08:29
sackerstated even08:29
ZahrberEclypse: but I think wine is your best bet08:29
nolimitsoyanoodles13, what might help is some heavy stripping and going back to 2.4/2.2, but thats a hassle...08:29
AndyRlo all08:29
AnythingJCan anyone help me? I am trying to load XUbuntu on my thinkpad 600X.  Once I select "Start or install Xubuntu" it gives me the error message "PCI: cannot allocate resource to region 0 of device 0000:00:02.0, invalid compressed format (err=1), kernel anic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unkown-block(1,0)"08:29
Eclypsesacker, there are many ways I could claim it to be legit.08:29
joejaxxsacker: i thought you can compile the cedega source yourself08:29
un_operateurtapiwa, the repositories are managed by ubuntu itself - you just enabled them as and when needed08:29
fbcun_operateur:  cool.. I'll be attempting it soon.. thanks..08:29
sackermaybe i don't know :-P08:29
ZahrberEclypse: type /join #Cedega on Freenode08:30
ZahrberEclypse: their is a channel08:30
Zahrberthere08:30
un_operateurfbc, have you ever setup servers before?08:30
un_operateur?08:30
evojuano: So in other words, you can't change the permissions to rwxr-xr-x? Maybe unmount it first, and remount if again with write permission.08:30
Eclypsezahrber, dude, none of them have gave me a real answer08:30
Eclypsezahrber one told me to fart on the CD for christ sake08:31
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Eclypseneed I emphasize that more?08:31
ZahrberEclypse: is your Warcraft 3 cd legit, it not then that may be the reason08:31
tapiwaun_operateur: does it have a native boot loader, like solaris or freebsd besides lilo or grub?08:31
fbcun_operateur:  Yup, just windows 200x and NT based servers as an MCSE, but I'm really liking ubuntu alot, and having to edit text files to configure things has not discouraged me.08:31
Eclypsezahrber yes it is.08:31
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ZahrberEclypse: then maybe try the demo of Cedega08:31
un_operateurtapiwa, ubuntu chooses to use grub by default -- but you may use lilo later (i dunno why tho)08:31
pm2I'm having trouble with a program needing access to the sound card.  I get the error "opensnd: open: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy" when it tries to output sound, but it can capture sound without any issue.  alsamixer works to control the soundcard capture volume.  I'm pretty stumped as to what going on here.  Any ideas?  This is on the latest version of kubuntu08:32
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tapiwaun_operateur: sounds interesting, thanks - I will be off to install ubuntu,08:32
ZahrberEclypse: I know that works when I tried it last year but I would rather game in Windows XP and not worry about it myself08:32
n2diyAnythingJ: google for Ubuntu boot options, I think there is a noapic option.?08:32
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Eclypsezahrber why would I try the demo of cedega? I have the full version of it . . .08:32
tapiwaI am currently using suse08:32
ZahrberEclypse: I paid for WIndows XP when I bought my PC so I use it for that08:32
tapiwaBRB.........08:32
un_operateurfbc, that'll definitely help you -- teach you more about LDAP directories (the hands on) manually setting up different services like FTP or WWW, manually tweaking networking and firewalling etc -- i'd say, just go with it (with good documentation in hand) :)08:33
juanoevo: when i do unmount i get this :08:33
fbcun_operateur: I also have noticed that there are alot of gui's for administering those text files, so I may install some of those to ease the transition.08:33
juanoevo: Cannot create link /etc/mtab~08:33
juanoPerhaps there is a stale lock file?08:33
LameBMXanyone know of a program compatible with quickbooks?08:33
Eclypsezahrber, sorry but I hate windows too much. and I also am on a laptop with a small hard drive. why suggest something else rather then actually help me with what I have now?08:33
Eclypsezahrber oh I give up, I'm not comming back to this channel for a while...08:33
ZahrberEclypse: Then you are gonna have to research it yourself use google and read alot there are many configurations for Cedega you will have to play with it08:34
n2diyfbc, don't put to much faith in those GUIs, some are a still works in progress.08:34
EclypseGOOGLE OH SOO MUCH FUN08:34
Eclypsebye.08:34
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ZahrberEclypse is too lazy to help himself08:34
fbcn2diy: thanks.. I've noticed that.08:34
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un_operateurfbc, it's totally upto you -- but as an administrator it might be better to do the canonical way i.e. editing files, etc -- install the GUI tools to help you but make it a point to not rely on them08:35
fbcun_operateur:  funny... http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/ does not talk much about the LDAP process.08:35
ZahrberI learned to read in the third grade and have not forgotten how but apparently some people have08:35
n2diyfbc, yep, when in doubt use the cli.08:35
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nolimitsoyaZahrber, i was thinking about doing the !ops thing... coming in here requesting support for pirated third party software and arguing for 15min is quite bold...08:35
LordUltimaDavidin ubuntu what manages sound?08:35
noodles13nolimitsoya: DAMN! DSL IS SMALL!08:35
fbcn2diy: Yes, from what I understand some services have to be restarted after changes to the conf files.08:36
nolimitsoyanoodles13, yes, its quite nice isnt it :)08:36
n2diyfbc, roger on that.08:36
un_operateurfbc, the LDAP thing (openLDAP) is not very exclusive to ubuntu -- it's for general linux and works the same regardless of distro08:36
ZahrberWine is free so why use CEdega I do not know and I use WIndows for Gaming and itis good enough even though I use Windows at work all day long if I need to kill someone on Americas Army I use windows08:37
evojuano :are you trying to umount as root08:37
LameBMXhooaahh aao08:37
fbcun_operateur: If that built in to NFS or something totally different?08:37
ivoksNFS and LDAP are unrelated08:37
un_operateurfbc, NFS is more the filesharing side to it all -- like the windows SMB08:38
linux_user400354does mark shuttleworth ever come in here?08:38
ivoksbut when combined... sweeeet :)08:38
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ZahrberLDAP is the Linux version of Active Directory to make it simple08:38
ivoksZahrber: acctually, NIS is original, and AD is copy08:38
un_operateurfbc, like, you can setup a file server on windows that doesnt need to exist within active directory -- same way, NFS exists independently of LDAP08:38
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Zahrberivoks your right Novell started it but M$ brought it to the mainstrea08:39
un_operateurivoks, AD doesnt resemble NIS very much at all08:39
ivoksZahrber: what, AD? or NIS?08:39
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un_operateurivoks, AD uses LDAP tho -- AD cannot exist without LDAP08:39
ivoksun_operateur: LDAP is evolution of NIS08:39
ZahrberM$ took the idea from Novell and made AD in 2000 and started people using it08:40
ivoksyou can connect, to some extend, openldap and AD08:40
ivoksZahrber: long beforce 2000 there was Sun :)08:40
ivoksbefore08:40
LordUltimaDaviddoes xorg manage sound?08:40
nolimitsoyaLordUltimaDavid, no08:40
un_operateurivoks, errm, hardly mate -- NIS is sharing the /etc/* files across many machines using a server -- LDAP uses it;'s own kind of database that isnt like NIS at all08:40
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nolimitsoya!alsa | LordUltimaDavid08:41
ubotuLordUltimaDavid: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin08:41
un_operateurivoks, i hope you arent mixing NIS and NIS+08:41
ivoksun_operateur: NIS+ right :)08:41
homerkk08:41
juanoevo:  any ideas?08:41
juano:P08:41
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rvallesis there a reason for ubuntu to be so far behind on games? still no frozen bubble 2.x, wesnoth still 1.1.x beta while 1.2 is already out lotsa free 3d FPS games not present at all...08:41
ZahrberI do like AD myself because it lets me manage several resources08:41
ivoksyellowpages that is08:41
LameBMXso what the diff between oss and alsa?08:41
ZahrberLDAP is just as good08:41
evojuano : not really...08:41
nolimitsoyarvalles, join the motu crew and fix it ;) its probably just low priority08:42
ivoksLameBMX: OSS is old, and ALSA is new08:42
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juanok08:42
ivoksLameBMX: ALSA suports duplex, while OSS doesn't on most of the modern cards08:42
nolimitsoyaLameBMX, alsa was started to replace oss on account of licensing issues.08:42
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nolimitsoyaLameBMX, wikipedia will giveyou the full story08:42
josetuplahi08:42
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LameBMXahhhh08:43
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evojuano : have you tried to unmount it with the gui, right click, unmount?08:43
LameBMXwell im just tryin to spdif output to work08:43
LameBMXalong with pcm08:43
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LameBMX:))08:43
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un_operateurZahrber, like i was saying AD is LDAP and kerberos amongst other things -- the LDAP AD uses is an extended LDAP but definitely compatible with openLDAP08:43
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LameBMX iec958 == spdif right?08:44
juanoevo: yeah , only option is "Eject" and yeah it ejects fine08:44
ivoksun_operateur: right, they are both x503.9 or something like that :)08:44
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juanoalso when i umount, it actually umounts except i get that error08:44
un_operateurivoks, x.509 you mean?08:44
ivoksright08:44
Zahrberun_operatorAD uses Kerberos also08:44
juanoevo: i think i need to know how to make muy pod writable08:44
un_operateurZahrber, yes, as i did say :)08:45
evojuano : try it this way to unmount it, and modify your fstab file with write permission08:45
grimeboyIf I have an mpg how do I make a dvd with it. The mpg is in the right format.08:45
evothen try to plug it in and see what this does08:45
grimeboys/./?08:45
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ZahrberI like AD and LDAP both they both do what they need to do08:45
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un_operateurjuano, have you tried moving the /etc/mtab~ file to something else? sudo mv /etc/mtab~ /etc/mtab~.bak08:46
juanoahh.. no, im gonna try it08:46
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juanogood idea08:46
jeeves_Mossall:  can anyone help me with GPSD?08:46
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MarcNjeeves_Moss: GPS daemon?  What is the problem?08:46
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juanoyeeeS!!!08:47
juanoevo: it worked08:47
jeeves_MossMarcN:  It's slow as frick, and I'm getting a "D-BUS" error08:47
juanodefinitly it was sudo mv /etc/mtab~ /etc/mtab~.bak08:47
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evojuano : nice08:47
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juanothen i performed a sudo umount /media/ipod with success08:47
un_operateurjuano, :)08:48
benjkhi08:48
jeeves_MossMarcN:  are you able to help?  if so, I'll pastebin the full error.08:48
benjkwhat's the name of the deb package for C++ ?08:48
juanoun_operateur:  :), hurray evo!!08:48
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MarcNjeeves_Moss: pastebin URL? I closed irc window and missed it.08:48
un_operateurben42, g++08:48
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evojuano :-) , have a nice day08:48
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juanoevo: you too08:48
iGadgethi08:48
juano:P08:49
un_operateuryea juano , merry xmas :)08:49
iGadgetmerry xmas all08:49
benjkthx08:49
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magic_ninjaun_operateur: the problem just compounded, now BIOS isn't recognizing my hdd08:49
juanoun_operateur:  merry xmas!08:49
un_operateurmerry xmas all :)08:49
magic_ninjaun_operateur: can't believe it08:49
jeeves_MossMarcN:  are you able to help?  if so, I said I'd pastebin the error08:49
magic_ninjamerry xmas eve08:49
un_operateurmagic_ninja, what kind of a harddrive is it?08:49
MarcNjeeves_Moss: maybe. I've used it before.  What is the pastebin url?08:49
iGadgetcan anyone tell me how I should use x-forwarding over ssh?08:50
magic_ninjamaxtor ata08:50
evomerry xmas to all08:50
MarcNiGadget: ssh -XC you@there.com some-x-app08:50
Zahrber!Xmas08:50
un_operateurmagic_ninja, ouch -- have you tried auto-detecting it?08:50
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Xmas - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:50
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magic_ninjaun_operateur: bios doesn't i think the cable is bad08:50
rvallesnolimitsoya: life is all about fun, after all!08:50
iGadgetMarcN: -XC... allright I'll try that08:50
jeeves_Mossno idea.  lets justmake a new channel.  jsut type "/join #jeeves"08:50
MarcNiGadget: or ssh -XC you@there.com and when you get a shell prompt, just run an X app.  Say firefox, xchat, etc08:50
Zahrber!Xmas jingle bells to you to ubotu08:50
ecastroHow do i enable upstart in ubuntu 6.10?!08:50
un_operateurmagic_ninja, hmm could be -- you sure you have the master/slave settings/jumpers set right?08:51
Tom_all:  need help with install problem.  graphics don't work after install.  tried installing with only vga support, but that didn't seem to help.  video card uses pci-e.  any help would be appreciated, but I'm TOTALLY new to linux.08:51
iGadgetMarcN: I keep getting 'cannot open display'08:51
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ecastroanybody is reading me!? this is the sixth question i asked and nobody ever answered me!08:52
AnythingJn2diy: For some reason I've stopped getting the "PCI cannot allocate resource" error.  But I am still getting "Invalid compressed format (err=1)" and "Kernel panic - not syncing... unknown-block(1,0)".  I tried noapic and nolapic, neither worked. Do I need to be adjusting something in my bios along with these?08:52
un_operateurecastro, the upstart question?08:52
iGadgetecastro: I thought upstart was already in 6.10?08:52
MarcNiGadget: did you use -XC on the ssh command?08:52
jeeves_MossMarcN:  are you going to join us in that other channel?08:52
grimeboyIf I have an mpg how do I make a dvd with it? I've converted the mpg is in the right format for DVD.08:52
iGadgetMarcN: yes...08:52
magic_ninjaun_operateur: here is exactly what i did....i hooked up anothe rhdd from an old comp to rescue data by pluging in power and hooking up the extra ide cable i had (my ide cable has 2 connectors), both hdds still registered then i started getting that error so i switched ide sockets then my hdd wouldn't even get detected08:52
magic_ninjaun_operateur: plz PM me with info and i message when i return in 15 minutes, afk08:52
ecastroun_operateur: yep, i did an ps -A x and the it says that init is running... not upstart08:53
MarcNjeeves_Moss: sorry, missed the invite.  To where?08:53
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iGadgetMarcN: maybe I should tell you something about the remote host - it's a console-only machine with (probably) no X11 / xorg installed08:53
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jeeves_MossMarcN:  you have to join the other channel.  the cannel is called "#jeeves"08:53
un_operateurecastro, did you by any chance upgrade to Edgy??08:53
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ecastroun_operateur: i have 6.10, that's not edgy?08:54
MarcNiGadget: you don't need to have an X server running, just the appropriate libraries for the X app.  There are ways to turn off X11 forwarding in /etc/sshd/* take a look there.08:54
iGadgetMarcN: I know and I did. All the options in the sshd config files seem okay...08:54
n2diyAnythingJ: I'm not sure about the bios? For giggles, did you try nodma?08:54
un_operateurecastro, yes, it is -- but did you install edgy direct or upgrade to it from dapper or older?08:54
jeeves_Mossall:  if anyone else can help with this GPSD issue, we're talking in #Jeeves08:55
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ecastroun_operateur: it was a fresh install08:55
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Tom_all:  need help with install problem.  graphics don't work after install.  tried installing with only vga support, but that didn't seem to help.  video card uses pci-e.  any help would be appreciated. btw I'm TOTALLY new to linux.08:55
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jgedeonTom_: Are you getting any kind of splash screen or anything?08:56
stickyickyhow do i make the 'less' command handle color codes correctly?08:56
iGadgetMarcN: do you know which libraries are needed on the remote host?08:56
iGadgetmaybe that's part of the problem...08:56
un_operateurecastro, hmm, i dont know much about upstart -- but tell me -- do you have an /etc/inittab ??08:56
mnoiriGadget: type env|grep DISPL in your terminal to verify that it is set08:56
Tom_jgedeon:  yes, I get the splash screen, but after that, it's just a mish-mash of random flashing colors.08:56
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MarcNiGadget: if you apt-get installed say firefox, all the appropriate libs will be there.08:57
iGadgetmnoir: it doesn't return anything on the remote host08:57
ecastroun_operateur: nop08:57
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jgedeonTom_: Sounds like you need to exit or xorg.conf08:57
iGadgetMarcN: okay, that's not the problem then.08:57
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mnoirwhat about locally (this is what matters08:57
mnoir)08:57
Nighthawkehow do i find out the version of the kernel of my ubuntu? GNOME08:58
MarcNCheck /etc/ssh*/* for no-X11-forwarding on the server.08:58
Tom_jgedeon:  as this is my first attempt at linux, I'm not sure what you mean or how to do that...08:58
iGadgetmnoir: locally it says DISPLAY=:0.008:58
mnoirgood - that is not the problem then :)08:58
MarcNiGadget: when you ssh in, do:   printenv|grep DISPLAY to see if there is anything.  Should be DISPLAY=localhost:10.008:58
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rcrookcan anyonne help me? what do I need to do to setup a SD Card reader in fstab?08:58
grimeboyHow do I recover a file I just rm'd08:59
grimeboy?08:59
jgedeonTom_: are you running a CRT or an LCD monitor?08:59
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Tom_jgedeon: crt08:59
rcrookgrimeboy: you dont sorry08:59
grimeboyArgh. It's not text. I can't08:59
jgedeonTom_: do you know your make and model number?  That way I can look up the information your looking for.08:59
grimeboyI spent 4 hours encoding that video08:59
grimeboyNow it's going to run on till midnight.09:00
grimeboyDARGH!09:00
grimeboyOh well09:00
iGadgetMarcN: it doesn't return anything when I type that on the remote host09:00
iGadgetMarcN: how do I set this?09:00
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naik0hey when i try to install libgtk2.0-dev but i get some errors09:01
naik0in swedish and i cant translate09:01
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jadacyrusIs there a better program than GPSDRIVE?09:01
jgedeonTom_: are you still here?09:01
Tom_jgedeon:  sure, thanks very much!  are you looking for make and model of video card, or monitor?  monitor is a samsung syncmaster 950p.  video card .... well that's a little harder to find, but it was standard on the dell dimension xps gen 5 and runs over pci-e09:01
MarcNiGadget: then x-forwarding not enabled.09:01
nolimitsoyanaik0, imswedish. paste them on pastebin, and then /query me09:01
w3ccvMarcN, I'm following you and iGadget. I have remote system, with   ForwardX11 no.  CAn I edit that to yes and just reconnect or do I have to restart sshd - if so I loose connections and can't relogin.09:01
naik0thanks nolimitsoya09:01
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jgedeonTom_: OK BRB Going to look up your monitor information.09:02
iGadgetMarcN: I checked the option, it clearly says 'yes'09:02
Nighthawkehow do i find out the version of the kernel of my system?09:02
mnoirw3ccv: you will need to restart sshd.  why can you not relogin?09:02
nolimitsoyaNighthawke, uname -r09:02
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Tom_jgedeon: thanks very much!09:02
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w3ccvmnoir, if I stop sshd - then I loose connections.09:03
mnoiryes but it restarts and then you log back in09:03
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mnoiruse restart, not stop09:03
evonighthawke : uname -r09:03
evoooops09:04
Nighthawkety evo09:04
nolimitsoyaevo, 2min too late ;)09:04
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Nighthawkety to all09:04
w3ccvmnoir, aha.   sure hope it works it is at a colo.  could take days to restart it.09:04
evonolimitsoya  ;-)09:04
mnoirhmm - :(09:04
Nighthawkeany reason why my vid drivers would fall back to the generic ones after a kernel upgrade?09:04
NighthawkeATI 9600XT09:04
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mnoirw3ccv: it is known to work but stuff occasionally happens :)09:05
jgedeonTom_: are you on the machine now?09:05
nolimitsoyaNighthawke, perhaps the restricted modules didnt upgrade as they should, or arent synced to the kernel09:05
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Tom_jgedeon: yes, I am09:05
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rick_Hi, can someone tell me how to delete a file out of /usr/bin/09:05
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Nighthawkeis it a safe risk to go through the manual upgrade a second time?09:05
mnoirrick_: rm just like any other directory09:05
nolimitsoyarick_, use sudo rm <file>, though, if you have to ask, you hsouldnt be messing with it09:06
mnoirfile i mean09:06
jgedeonTom_: first lets look at the config file.  in Term. type in nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:06
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Tom_jgedeon:  ok.  what are you looking for in xorg.conf?09:06
naik0nolimitsoya: did you see my pm?09:07
iGadgetI remember I've done this before from linux to windows some years ago, I had to use some kind of 'export display=remote_ip:0' command...09:07
iGadgetcould that be bugging me now?09:07
nolimitsoyanaik0, nope. are you registered?09:07
jgedeonTom_: when it opens up look for the section that says " Section "Monitor" "09:07
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rick_nolimitsoya: I just wanted to remove rar09:07
naik0on freenode?09:07
naik0wait have to identify09:07
mnoiriGadget: that is what the -X is supposed to set up09:07
jgedeonTom_: when you find it what does it say for your HorizonSync and for your VertRefresh?09:07
nolimitsoyarick_, thats done with 'sudo apt-get remove --purge rar'09:08
iGadgetmnoir: okay... seems like that's not working somehow09:08
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mnoirig - what is your display offset set to?09:08
iGadgetmnoir: how can I tell?09:08
Tom_jgedeon: horizsync is 28-32 and vertrefrfesh is 43-6009:09
jgedeonTom_: ok that is the problem.09:09
rick_nolimitsoya: i'm trying to reinstall rar so i can extract a file do you know how i would use it?09:09
mnoirlook for sumpin like X11DisplayOffset 10  near X11forwarding in the sshd config09:09
AnythingJAfter selecting "Start or install xubuntu" from the xubuntu live disk I get the following errors "invalid compressed format (err=1)" and "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root  fs on unknown-block(1,0)".  I have tried various boot options like "noapic nolapic hd=cylinders,heads,sectors nodma" none of which seem to work for me.  Any suggestions?  I'm confused to why it is trying to load block(1,0), I thought the first har09:09
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zzzerotimehi09:09
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nolimitsoyarick_, 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall rar' to reinstall, and 'rar x <file>09:09
nolimitsoya' to extract09:10
jgedeonTom_: we need to make a back up copy of your config file.  to do that type "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bkup09:10
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zzzerotimeI have messed up my panel in gnome09:10
iGadgetmnoir: yup, it's there09:10
jgedeonTom_: that is after you control+x to exit nano09:10
rick_nolimitsoya: Package rar is not available, but is referred to by another package.09:10
rick_This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or09:10
rick_....09:10
zzzerotimeis there anyway to create a new default panel?09:11
nolimitsoyarick_, enable universe09:11
Tom_jgedeon:  done09:11
nolimitsoya!universe09:11
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource09:11
mnoirhmm - strauge - these are the only two parms i have in my working sshd cofig that affect X09:11
nolimitsoyarick_, wait... should be in multiverse i think...09:11
mnoirstrange too :)09:11
nolimitsoya!multiverse | rick_09:11
uboturick_: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource09:11
zzzerotimehi, how to create a new default bar?09:11
jgedeonTom_: ok now we want to edit that file so it's sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:11
Tom_jgedeon: ok09:11
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soothsayDoes anyone know how to get rid of Ubuntu icon in the Applications menu (Gnome)?09:12
jgedeonTom_: then go to the monitor section and put in for your HorizSync 30-96 and your VertRefresh 50-16009:12
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iGadgetmnoir: I just got the tip from somebody I was missing xauth, so I apt-get installed it09:12
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rick_nolimitsoya: how do i add the multiverse it does not say on the site09:13
jgedeonTom_: write the file out by control+0 and then exit it by control+x and then restart gnome.09:13
mnoiriGadget: i am all aquiver waiting to see iffit works..09:13
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n2diyAnythingJ: How much ram do you have? I had a similar problem trying to load Dabber on a box with 196 meg. What I ended up doing, was installing Breezy, and then Dapper.09:13
webmarenrick_: you on edgy09:13
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rick_webmaren: hoary09:14
nolimitsoya!repositories | rick_09:14
uboturick_: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource09:14
webmarenrick_ sorry, can't help you there09:14
nolimitsoyarick_, then you should upgrade, as soon as possible09:14
evon2diy Maybe you can try fluxbuntu09:14
soothsay!EasySource09:14
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic09:14
magic_ninjamy harddrives broke09:14
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webmarenyeah rick_ you should upgrade to at least dapper09:15
rick_nolimitsoya: i'm just waiting on the new cds to be shipped to m09:15
n2diyevo, its working now, just had to jump through some hoops to get it going.09:15
nolimitsoyarick_, you can do an internet upgrade if you have the bandwith...09:15
Tom_jgedeon:  didn't seem to have an effect.  although, the only way I knew how to restart gmone was to reboot the system.  and to do that, the only thing I knew to do was hold down the power button...09:15
evon2diy Yeah normally 196 meg should do it09:15
rick_nolimitsoya: I attempted that and it did not work right.. so i figured I should just wait for the cds09:16
webmarennolimitsoya: I wouldn't do that, rick_ you should burn edgy CDs09:16
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jgedeonTom_: hmmm...  It now has the proper rates according to Samsung for that model.09:16
nolimitsoyarick_, remember that you can only jump one step at a time.09:16
webmarenI had a bad experience moving up to edgy over the internet09:16
frootstripehi all - is the following is a security concern? $ ps ax | wc -l  ==> 112;   ls -d /proc/* | grep [0-9] |wc -l ==> 11309:16
jgedeonTom_: can you send me your xorg.config file?09:16
nolimitsoyawebmaren, there is no diffrence, unless you suggest making a clean install09:16
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webmarennolimitsoya: If he's going CD, then he's doing that anyways09:17
rick_nolimitsoya: i forgot about breezy? i think when i was upgrading i think thats why09:17
smimphowdy all, anyone know how to add a dummy ethernet device to a box? (i need a static ip for an ldap server)09:17
mnoiriGadget: ??09:17
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webmarenrick_: that would do it09:17
nolimitsoyawebmaren, not by necesity...09:17
webmarennolimitsoya: but most likely09:17
nolimitsoyarick_, you must upgrade to from hoary to breezy, from breezy to dapper and from dapper to edgy09:17
rick_I forgot about breezy i went straight to dapper lol09:18
nolimitsoyasmimp, iptables?09:18
iGadgetmnoir: it's working... but before it did, I also had to create a symlink in /root to my .Xauthority file, otherwise all apps which need sudo wouldn't work09:18
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webmarenrick_: that would cause those problems you had09:18
Tom_jgedeon:  if you can walk me through that, I'd be glad to.  bear in mind, I'm here on irc via a separate comp.  the computer in question is connected to the same network, but I'll need you to walk me through each step.09:18
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mnoircool - it has been so long i forgot how i set it up09:18
nolimitsoyarick_, at least get to dapper, since its a lts realease09:18
nolimitsoya*-a09:18
mnoirso xauth and the symlink did it?09:18
CorpseFeederi just installed K3B, but it won't launch from the applications menu. it will only start if I run it as root. How do I fix this so that I can run it from applications menu as normal user?09:18
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jgedeonTom_: are you ssh'd into the other computer?09:19
iGadgetmnoir: yes :D09:19
nolimitsoyaCorpseFeeder, reinstall it09:19
AnythingJn2diy: I have 196 meg.  I currently am trying to install breezy (6.10), did you mean to say you tried starting with dapper instead of breezy?09:19
smimpnolimi: not sure how i'd set that up .. in suse, theres an easy way to add it.. iptables wouldnt handle creating the device would it09:19
nolimitsoyaCorpseFeeder, your cdrom is mounted as user, isnt it?09:19
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mnoircool - now for xtra credit, set up gpg and stop using open passwords09:19
nolimitsoyasmimp, i have no clue, hence teh '?09:19
nolimitsoya'09:19
nnmnoir: or even cooler, set up smart cards :P09:19
iudlbanyone use ipodder?  I can't figure out how to get it to start on startup09:19
Tom_jgedeon:  nope.  not sure how to go about doing that09:19
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mnoirnn: :)09:20
CorpseFeederi don't know? how would I find out if my cdrom is mounted as user?09:20
nolimitsoyasmimp, it should be able to give you a loopback or forward :)09:20
n2diyAnythingJ: ok, I'm confusing them, I had to install 5.10, before I could get 6.06 to go on.09:20
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evosmimp : Maybe you can try en alias eth0:1 , eth0:2 etc...09:20
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nolimitsoyaCorpseFeeder, check if there is a 'user' in mount options in your fstab09:20
jgedeonTom_: OK.  How about doing a check and making sure those settings are in the xorg.conf file that we just tried to put in them.09:20
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Harry_CallahanHello to all, This is the first time using IRC cliente09:20
Tom_jgedeon:  just did that, and they did save09:20
nolimitsoyaCorpseFeeder, if youve been messing with it, thats where things might have gone wrong09:20
smimpnolimitsoya: i'll look into it.. not familiar how it works .. any good pointers for info?09:21
jgedeonTom_: hmm..  Will the system boot to a live CD?09:21
webmarenwelcome Harry09:21
nolimitsoyasmimp, man iptables09:21
nolimitsoya!iptables | smimp09:21
ubotusmimp: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).09:21
CorpseFeederi don't remember where to find fstab09:21
nn  /etc/fstab09:21
Tom_jgedeon:  no.  same effect with the live cd.09:21
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nolimitsoyaCorpseFeeder, then thats probably not the source of  your problems :)09:22
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LameBMXlol09:22
Harry_CallahanThe Ubuntu community is great! Is this IRC only for help?09:22
RendoWhat's the terminal command to connect to another box?09:22
nolimitsoyaHarry_Callahan, yes09:22
nolimitsoyaRendo, as i ssh?09:22
webmarenRendo: you mean, like telnet?09:22
magic_ninjaun_operateur: back09:22
RendoI mean I want to connect to my box at home to transfer some files from here.09:23
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nolimitsoyaRendo, cli ftp?09:23
AnythingJn2diy: thanks for all your help! I'll give that a try and hopefully it'll work for me.  Thanks again09:23
nnnolimitsoya: nooo09:23
ZmasteRhi guyz, i runnin edgy on an acer aspire 5102 and after much frustration i got 3d acceleration on my ati graphics (currently tryin to get beryl to work, keep gettin no composite found, blah blah) but my main problem is the other day i was readin some debian user page and decided to follow some instructions to update the sound drivers (even tho my sound was workin fine) and now i have no sound what so ever, is there any way of "r09:23
ZmasteRollin back the drivers" or anythin i can do?09:23
nolimitsoyaRendo, ftp <adress> should work, i think...09:23
nnRendo: sftp or scp09:23
mnoirRendo: scp09:23
RendoAH09:23
Rendoscp09:23
magic_ninjai'm going to power down i think and see if i can get this hdd to detect...any ideas from anyone09:23
jgedeonTom_: you might need to install SSH then ssh into the box then do a file transfer to your machine that your on now.09:23
RendoThank you.09:23
Harry_CallahanWell, I don't have any problems in this moment, so Happy Holidays to all and cheers!09:23
n2diyAnythingJ: nada09:23
w3ccvmnoir, I think I'll play it safe, notreal need - emacs isn't loaded on the remote09:23
mnoirRendo: you can use ssh in nautilus too09:23
rick_What program can I use to burn a iso file with?09:23
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RendoWhat's the default port again? 24?09:24
magic_ninja!k3b09:24
ubotuk3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto09:24
mnoirw3ccv: :)09:24
nolimitsoyarick_, k3b09:24
nnunless you absolutely need ftp server, don't install one.. they've almost all had wonderfully terrible security histories, and they offer no encryption or security of the data transferred09:24
rick_ty09:24
CorpseFeederI see in the fstab file /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       009:24
jgedeonTom_: what video card did you say that you were using?09:24
mnoirRendo: scp should be 22 i think - sec09:24
nnmnoir: correct.09:24
CorpseFeederi have not messed around with the file09:24
jgedeonYes scp defauls to port 2209:24
nolimitsoyaCorpseFeeder, its reading correctly09:25
mnoiryeah - same as ssh09:25
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Tom_jgedeon: sounds like fun.  never used apt-get at the command line though  (lol)  your patience so far has been amazing.  I haven't been specific about the video card yet.  but I do believe it's an NVIDIA GeForce 680009:25
CorpseFeederk3b will not launch unless I sudo it09:25
magic_ninjaTom_: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx09:26
jgedeonTom_: did the xorg.conf file detect it in the section just above the monitor?09:26
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evoCorpseFeeder : Locate the k3b file ; and change it's permission with chmod09:26
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nicoAMGrick: GnomeBaker, or using the Nautilus CD-writing add-on09:26
ZmasteRcan anyone lend a hand with Realtek ALC883 audio problems on edgy??09:27
hikenboothello anyone got a link to the wiki that shows how to upgrade from 6.06 to 6.1?09:27
nolimitsoyaevo, since it shouldnt need fixing tobegin with, id be carefull chmodding stuff... something is definatly wrong09:27
webmaren!edgy09:27
ubotuUbuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes09:27
hikenbootthank09:27
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smimpnolimitsoya: i had a suse environment inside of suse and i was able to use that to create the interface :)09:27
nolimitsoyaCorpseFeeder, to find the k3b files (to check ownership) you can use the 'whereis' command09:27
smimpnolimitsoya: i was testing a chroot so i could do novell stuff inside of ubuntu09:28
webmarensmimp: wait you ran a virtual SUSE inside SUSE09:28
evonolimitsoya :Yes I know there is something wrong, but he can run it as root, this can be a permission problem. Maybe we need more information on this09:28
nolimitsoyaevo, thats the point of the line i just wrote. :) im just suggesting we find out the cause of the problems before things start to get chmodded, possibly wreaking stuff even worse09:29
n2diyCorpseFeeder: You can't launch it from apps-sound and video?09:29
Tom_jgedeon:  failed.  can't even tell if this computer is networking correctly.  it's _physically_ attached to the network, but not sure if it's working.  error messages include "Temporary failure resolving 'security.ubuntu.com'"09:29
iudlbhow do I make ipodder start on startup?09:29
hikenboothappy holidays everyone...see ya around09:29
nnTom_: can you ping say google?09:29
CorpseFeederI cannot launch it form apps menu09:29
smimpnolimit: just copied the entire directory structure from a suse box into my ubuntu.. then i linked /dev and proc and stuff into it then chroot into it09:29
CorpseFeederfrom09:29
jgedeonTom_: ifconfig -a will tell you what your IP adress is and should tell you whether or not it's connected.09:29
CorpseFeederwhereis tells me k3b: /usr/bin/k3b /usr/X11R6/bin/k3b /usr/bin/X11/k3b /usr/share/man/man1/k3b.1.gz09:30
CorpseFeeder... do I need to change the permissions of all of those?09:30
webmarencorpsefeeder: system>preferences>menu layout09:30
webmarencorpsefeeder: maybe it just doesn't know it's there09:30
rick_what is the command to refresh gnome?09:30
evoCorpseFeeder : Maybe first do an ls -la on these files and report them09:30
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CorpseFeederwhy do I want to look at menu layout?.. no even if I try and launch it from terminal, it tells me permission denied09:31
jgedeonrick_: you mean to restart gnome?09:31
smimplater everyone.. need to reboot to test.. happy holidays09:31
rick_yes09:31
webmarencorpsefeeder: okay then didn't know that09:31
jgedeonrick_: ctrl backspace09:31
jgedeonrick_: ctrl+alt backspace09:31
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rick_jgedon: the one that just restarts it not that one09:32
un_operateurrick_, or -- sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart09:32
rick_nvm i found it09:32
Tom_jgedeon: ifconfig didn't give me an ip addy, but I don't see any rx or tx packets.09:32
un_operateurrick_, which was it?09:32
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jgedeonTom_: it might not be connected then.09:32
rick_killall gnome-panel09:32
_3dge_hi. im having problems installing ubuntu 6.1009:32
un_operateurTom_, if there is no ip addy it means there are no packets traversing that interface and therefore no rx/tx stats09:33
jgedeonTom_: might need to use the command to bring up eth009:33
jgedeonun_operateur: what is the command to manually bring up eth0?09:33
n2diyTom, is he seeing the interface?09:33
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tapiwaun_operateur: I tried to install ubuntu onto my machine, the problem - gparted for partitioning gives two options manually partion or automatically partition. What i don't is why not let me partition my disk - have a portion for ubuntu thus at least 10 gig, then install on that 10 gig09:33
CorpseFeederk3b is stupid. Why does it install with only root access permissions? it's idiotic.09:33
_3dge_the livecd works fine and ive checked the checksum, but the installer crashes on 52%  (im installing on a dell e1505 laptop which has previously run xubuntu, slack, debian and freebsd)09:33
un_operateurjgedeon, sudo ifup eth009:33
jgedeonun_operateur: thank you for some reason I can never remember than one.09:34
tapiwaproblem: manually partion - I don't want to make mess of the mount points.09:34
Tom_jgedeon: alrighty, how do I bring up eth0?  if it's ilfup then I just did that, and it's already configured09:34
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tapiwaproblem: automatically partition - i don't want the op sys to delete all the partition I had before install.09:35
un_operateurtapiwa, errm, ubuntu is clever alright -- just not that smart :)09:35
jgedeonTom_: like un_operateur just said. sudo ifup eth009:35
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gradin...09:35
Rambo3_3dge_,  use alternative cd09:35
n2diyCorpseFeeder: I installed it a couple of days ago, and it was AFU, I removed it, and re-installed it, and it was ok from there.09:35
Tom_jgedeon: already configured09:35
gradini've got a problem...09:35
evoCorpseFeeder : k3b is not stupid, the is something wrong, normally you do not have any problem running it as user09:35
un_operateurtapiwa, it needs to be told exactly how much space to use and where to use the space09:35
jgedeonTom_:  but eth0 isn't showing any ip address?09:36
Tom_jgedeon: correct09:36
nndhclient eth009:36
gradinwhen i attempt to burn a dvd the computer locks up09:36
_3dge_Rambo3: what would cause this problem though?  xubuntu is based on ubuntu, just uses a diff desktop manager and that worked fine09:36
tapiwaun_operateur: with suse you can select a partition, then it sorts everything out (I mean the mount points).09:36
jgedeonTom_: this is a wired connection correct.09:36
bulmerTom_ is the interface configured for dhcp or static?09:36
Tom_jgedeon: yes09:36
gradini'm using totem to transcode files from avi to mpeg09:36
un_operateurtapiwa, yea, well, suse is good at somethings -- that being one of them09:37
Tom_bulmer: should be dhcp.  that's how it was configured on install09:37
gradini've got the log files for the totem thing09:37
bulmerTom_ then nn suggested command  dhclient eth009:37
un_operateurtapiwa, it's not hard setting them up -- if in doubt, you can always ask09:37
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Rambo3_3dge_, easyest is to check launchpad , i ve never installed with live cd it allways fails for me. mostly gparted  or some other util09:37
_3dge_launchpad?09:38
gradinanybody have any ideas on what to check?09:38
tapiwaun_operateur: I am asking, I didn't know how09:38
bulmerTom_ if it still does not pick up an ip address, then use static addressing and ping the dhcp server see if it can be reached09:38
Rambo3!launchpad09:38
ubotulaunchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/09:38
un_operateurtapiwa, and it's just better to manually set the partitions -- just like with windows09:38
RedroseAnyone know what the names for the C man pages is named?09:38
_3dge_i can partition my drives fine and format them, the installer just hangs at 53% of copying files09:38
_3dge_52% sorry09:38
bulmerRedrose man09:38
un_operateurtapiwa, you asking how to set them up?09:38
_3dge_it fails at the same point each time, ive tried 3 times so far09:38
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Redroselol... I know that...; but when i put in man 3 printf is says that the page does not exist...09:39
un_operateurRedrose, the C language documentation, you mean?09:39
yassjoint#ubuntu-fr09:39
Redroseyes09:39
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jgedeonBRB09:39
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CorpseFeederuninstalling and reinstalling k3b makes no difference. it always installs with root only permissions.. Is this a bug?09:39
bulmerRedrose  man -k comandyouwant09:39
Rambo3whats the installer name ubiguty09:39
Rambo3q09:39
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n2diy_3dge_: how long do you let it cook at 52%? There are times during the install where it seems like it is hung when it isn't.09:40
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Redrosebulmer, that only well me i ahve the standard... I want to download the documentation for printf!09:40
Tom_bulmer, jgedeon:  looks like a physical problem with the network.  I'm going to go check the connections.  brb09:40
evoCorpseFeeder : find / -name k3b | grep bin  , then ls -la the file , you should have something like rwxr-xr-x09:40
tapiwaun_operateur: the question is how many mount points - should i set swap partition /.use share swap amongst other *nix distros?09:40
Redroseun_operateur, Do you know the name of the package?09:41
_3dge_n2diy: longest was 20 min09:41
un_operateurRedrose, i'm having a look now -- hold up09:41
Redrosethanks09:41
tapiwaun_operateur: how do i set them?09:41
un_operateurtapiwa, essentially you need only two --- swap and /09:41
n2diy_3dge_: Ok, sounds like it was hung.09:41
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MohamadABakermanhello09:42
nntapiwa: if you set up your boot scripts to rebuild the swap when you reboot from other (non-linux) OS's that trample on it, should be fine09:42
CorpseFeederfind outputs a whole lot of staff like "find: /var/lock/lvm: Permission denied"09:42
tapiwaun_operateur: how about root09:42
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_3dge_i have no idea why it would hang there each time though, especially as other distros have had no problem.  is there a logfile created by the installer somewhere?09:42
evoCorpseFeeder : do a sudo before the command09:42
nnevo: ls -a1ls `which k3b`09:42
nnevo: it's way faster09:42
evoCorpseFeeder : I don't sudo anymore09:42
_3dge_(im using gaim from the livecd atm and its working fine)09:42
un_operateurtapiwa, but to be better off -- make 4 -- /boot (100mb ext2), /tmp (2gb ext3), swap (2x RAM) and / (whats left over - ext3)09:43
tapiwaun_operateur: please clarify,09:43
evonn : thx , i learned a new thing09:43
nnevo: which returns only executables in PATH, however09:43
jgedeonTom_: are you still here?09:43
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Siph0nhey.... i am using Network Manager Applet 0.6.2, and it says No network connection, but obviously i DO have a network connection cause im here talking.... anyone know why? or how to get it to show my wireless network there?09:43
tapiwaun_operateur: thanks again, I will be off to try your suggestion09:44
_3dge_I wish this would work. -.- it would be a lot easier than slackware09:44
RedroseDoes anyone know the name of the package that contains the C Language documentation for man pages?09:44
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robdemanhey gang... is there any tool that can give me a graphical representation of my bandwith usage per week / month ?09:44
MohamadABakermandose any one can help my09:45
MohamadABakerman?09:45
n2diyRedrose, try man gcc.09:45
robdemannoty just web statistics, I need to includ ebittorrent, etc etc09:45
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un_operateurRedrose, probably this one -- glibc-doc09:45
robdemanlike 100% all the bandwith consumed by the eth0 port that cinnectes my server to the hosting facilities backbone09:45
morpheus74Hello.  I want to install only PHP on my Ubuntu system.  Where can I find documentation on how to do this, or who can tell me how to install php09:45
un_operateurRedrose, I'm not too sure -- i'm still looking09:45
tapiwaun_operateur: so 10 gig should be enough for ubuntu?09:45
fromvegaHow do I create another user with administratives and sudo privileges?09:45
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un_operateurtapiwa, yea, thats plenty09:45
Redroseun_operateur, manpages_dev09:45
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un_operateurtapiwa, errm -- just to make sure -- / is ubuntu eh09:46
bulmerfromvega: put that user as memeber of those groups that have those privileges09:46
robdemanmorpheus: do a Server Install and you get Mysql,PHP, Apache09:46
un_operateurtapiwa, so 10gb for /09:46
nnRedrose: joseph@christine:~$ dpkg -S /usr/share/man/man2/alarm.2.gz09:46
nnmanpages-dev: /usr/share/man/man2/alarm.2.gz09:46
nnso manpages-dev09:46
n2diyRedrose, try man gcc.09:46
fromvegabulmer: I don't know the groups... :\09:46
nnRedrose: manpages-dev is what you want09:46
bulmerfromvega: look at /etc/group09:47
Redrosen2diy, I did... and it ony l gives me that gcc commands... i'm looking for man 3 printf09:47
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tapiwaun_operateur: Hope so,09:47
Redrosethanks you all for the help09:47
tapiwaBRB09:47
n2diyRedrose, roger that.09:47
bulmerRedrose: you just want to print the printf man pages? maybe you will do better with google09:47
nnbulmer: im sure he'll want others later :P09:47
fromvegabulmer: can I copy the same config from another user?09:47
bulmer:)09:47
nnjoseph@joseph:~> apropos porn09:48
nnporn: nothing appropriate.09:48
nnhmm09:48
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bulmerfromvega: the user you want to copy has the privileges you want to grant?09:48
un_operateurbulmer, lol -- he's looking for the C printf manpage not looking to print it :)09:48
MarcNnn: try:        locate porn         ;-)09:48
fromvegabulmer: yes, I want to copy my own user...09:48
bulmerahh okay..09:48
bulmerfromvega: type group09:49
bulmerrather groups09:49
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timothyin Evince 0.6.1 the print button in the print dialog is greyed out.  every other program I have used prints great.  why?09:49
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nnMarcN: sir, porn is in /Volumes/NFS/bella/Media/pr0n/09:49
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bulmerlol09:49
fromvegabulmer: ok... the groups are listed09:49
nnMarcN: or /Media/pr0n from bella09:49
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CorpseFeederok.. i changed the permissions of k3b from root to normal user, it still won't run.09:49
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nnCorpseFeeder: one sec09:50
bulmerfromvega: now look at /etc/group and you will see that those groups have your userid as members09:50
bulmerso do the same for the new user09:50
nn2036 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2078252 2006-08-30 08:55 /usr/bin/k3b09:50
evoCorpseFeeder : no, that's not good09:50
Nighthawkeneed help in reinstalling ATI drivers after upgrading system to current kernel version09:50
CorpseFeedernow I get kdeinit: Aborting. bind() failed: : Permission denied09:50
CorpseFeederCould not bind to socket '/home/mouser/.kde/socket-mouser-desktop/kdeinit__0'09:50
CorpseFeederERROR: KUniqueApplication: Can't setup DCOP communication.09:50
nn0 brw-rw---- 1 root cdrom 22, 0 2006-12-21 17:12 /dev/hdc09:50
bking39116Hello all:  anyone want to help troubleshoot CUPS?09:50
un_operateurCorpseFeeder, some programs need to be owned by root to work properly ...09:50
un_operateur!paste | CorpseFeeder09:50
ubotuCorpseFeeder: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)09:50
bulmerCorpseFeeder: umm you dont like the k3b package installed as root?09:50
nnCorpseFeeder: and i'm in group 'cdrom'09:51
fromvegabulmer: but isn't there a command to just CLONE? do I need to type all groups?09:51
evoleave the owner asroot, make sure the user has r-x permission09:51
un_operateurfromvega, are you still looking to make a new superuser?09:51
bulmerfromvega: its just a matter of adduser()  i think its available on ubuntu..on other distros it has this command09:51
evorwxr-xr-x09:52
CorpseFeederthe whole thing is too confusing. why doesn't it just install and work? Is it a bug with edgy stopping k3b from working?09:52
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bulmerfromvega: man adduser09:52
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stevenis anyone else upset with the new  installer?  it has deleted two of my windows installations!!!09:52
un_operateurCorpseFeeder, what exactly happens when k3b fails to launch? any errors?09:52
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Nighthawkeneed help in reinstalling ATI drivers after upgrading system to current kernel version09:53
CorpseFeederkdeinit: Aborting. bind() failed: : Permission denied09:53
CorpseFeederCould not bind to socket '/home/mouser/.kde/socket-mouser-desktop/kdeinit__0'09:53
CorpseFeederERROR: KUniqueApplication: Can't setup DCOP communication.09:53
nnCorpseFeeder: so do this: chown root:root /usr/bin/k3b; chmod 755 /usr/bin/k3b09:53
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nnerr09:53
un_operateurCorpseFeeder, please do not paste into the channel ..09:53
fromvegaun_operateur: yes dude09:53
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steveni feel this disto has gone down hill after breezy :(  Does anyone know if there is a verison that uses the old installer ?09:53
steventhe debian installer09:54
un_operateurCorpseFeeder, does ls list that file -- ls -l /home/mouser/.kde/socket-mouser-desktop/kdeinit__009:54
nnCorpseFeeder: then make sure whatever /dev/cdrom points to is owned by root:cdrom09:54
bking39116anyone have a Brother HL-1440 running on CUPS?09:54
un_operateurfromvega, if you setup users and groups right, you have no reason to have another superuser09:55
un_operateurfromvega, just why do you want another superuser?09:55
Dylockhowdy, i was wondering what program controlled user switching09:55
un_operateurDylock, on gnome?09:55
stevenor where they hell they have DECIDED to move the hibernation features? in edgy?09:55
bulmerbking39116: i dont ..what you need?09:55
fromvegaun_operateur: because we have two system administrators!09:55
Dylockyea un_operateur09:55
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bulmerfromvega: then via /etc/sudoers09:56
bking39116bulmer:  trying to get around the printer timing out with a "Printer not conencted; will retry in 30 seconds"09:56
un_operateurDylock, errm, i dont use gnome -- but this is the executable that does it -- gdmflexiserver09:56
CorpseFeederls says no such file or directory09:56
Tom_jgedeon: I"m back.  seems my little brother had pulled the utp right out of the wall.  I just finished literally taping it back together and installing nvidia-glx as you recommended09:56
Dylockok thank you un_operateur09:56
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jgedeonTom_: and?09:56
Tom_jgedeon: restarting the comp now...09:57
stevendoes anyone know what package they have put the hibernation features in for Kubuntu?09:57
bulmerbking39116: is it a parallel printer? or network attached/09:57
un_operateurfromvega, get root to delegate the right permissions to those two system administrators -- and that should be enough09:57
jgedeonTom_: finger crossed here for you.  LOL09:57
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un_operateursteven, acpid and klaptop i think09:57
n2diyCorpseFeeder: you should address your post to the person helping you, un_operateur may have missed your last one.09:58
bking39116bulmer: USB on latest ubuntu. I can print both locally and from the network right after I reboot the machine.  after it sits for a bit (not too long), CUPS and Printing Services say that the printer is working and printing, then times out.  I have tried reinstalling with same issue.  Tried power cycling the printer.  No change.09:58
jgedeonTom_: by the way to reboot from terminal it's sudo shutdown -r now09:58
un_operateurn2diy, thank you -- i did miss CorpseFeeder's last post indeed09:58
nnCorpseFeeder: it's a permissions issue on your cdrom device, i'm sure09:58
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nnCorpseFeeder: 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2006-12-21 17:12 /dev/cdrw -> hdc09:59
nnCorpseFeeder: 0 brw-rw---- 1 root cdrom 22, 0 2006-12-21 17:12 /dev/hdc09:59
bking39116bulmer:  I have tried other drivers as well..  I am trying to print ultimately from OS X 10.4.latest via wifi.  can print locally and from network while the printer is working.09:59
bulmerbking39116: you may have to take a look around cups.conf and see if there are any settings for keep alive or some kind of timer..maybe thats set to sleep far too long09:59
cypruserHi!09:59
n2diybking39116:  did you try stopping, and starting CUPS?09:59
Tom_jgedeon: *sigh* no change to the screen.  though, now I have a few more options in grub (two options labeled "generic")09:59
nnyour results for ls -a1ls /dev/cdrw and whatever it points to should be similar09:59
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jgedeonTom_: those are your kernels10:00
bking39116bulmer:  I looked, but didn't see anything.  I also looked through the CUPS docs and didn't see a directive I could use.  I am officially stumped.10:00
debcan someone help me out   i am looking to get a console to split into 4 consoles without x10:00
cypruserI'm kinda new here. How do I delete a file from the shell?10:00
bking39116n2diy:  until my fingers bled. ;-)10:00
un_operateurCorpseFeeder, try restarting the dcopserver -- I think it is done like this -- /etc/init.d/dcopserver restart10:00
debrm ./file  deletes a file10:01
n2diybking39116: Roger that.10:01
cypruserThanks.10:01
jgedeonTom_:  in your xorg.conf under Section "Device" it show everything correctly?10:01
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Tom_jgedeon: yes, I mean I suddenly have two more boot options than before.  whereas it was kernel-blah -blah-blah-i386, I now have kernel-blah-blah-blah-generic as well.10:01
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bking39116n2diy:  tried  sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart and sudo kill _HUP cupsd.  no effect.10:02
Tom_jgedeon: if "nv" is the correct driver, then it looks good10:02
bulmerbking39116: does the printer itself the HL1444 have some kind of energy saving features that turn itself off after a few minutes?10:02
jgedeonTom_:  what about the busId10:02
Tom_jgedeon: maybe I'm wrong about the video card.... let me see if I can get more info10:02
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Tom_jgedeon: PCI:1:0:010:02
bking39116bulmer:  it is Energy Star compliant, so yes, it goes to slep./  I can still ls /dev/usb0110:03
cypruserWhenever I go to a website with flash, Firefox crashes. How do I fix this problem?10:03
CorpseFeederun_operateur: I've now restored the permissions on the k3b files back to root as it was originally... shall I try restarting dcopserver now?10:03
n2diybking39116: I thought the command was -something/services cups stop?10:03
bulmerbking39116: but that ls is on your system..that doesnt tell you if the printer is alive noh?10:03
un_operateurCorpseFeeder, yea sure -- it does no harm10:03
dsquareis there a program that i can run so that i can use my computer at home from my computer at work?? but i cant run a program at work it has to be some sort of way i can log into my computer on internet explorer.. is there a way to do this runnign ubuntu 6.06 please??10:03
jgedeonTom_:  I'm not sure.  All the times that I have ran into the problem that you are having it was always in the config file.10:04
bking39116n2diy:  cupsys per the docs, but I'm open to new things.10:04
bking39116bulmer:  true that.10:04
bulmerdsquare: look for tightvnc10:04
debdsquare  all you need to do is telnet in10:04
timo901hi is it posable to do a restore using the cd ,so all the changes i have then are removed sort of like a reinstall10:04
CorpseFeederdoes no harm is correct.. it doesn't even exist.10:04
dsquaredeb if i telnet in that is text based, i want gui10:04
n2diybking39116: ,ok, I'm googling for it now.10:05
CorpseFeederi have no dcopserver10:05
dsquarebulmer i will look for that thx10:05
debok10:05
un_operateurCorpseFeeder, how about -- which dcopserver10:05
cypruserdsquare: Try one of those VNC programs.10:05
bking39116is there anyway to "ping" a usb device?10:05
Tom_jgedeon: I think the problem may very well be in the video card.  I'm no longer sure it's a 680010:05
un_operateurbking39116, lsusb :)10:05
dsquarewill the VNC programs allow me to access my computer using only internet explorer on my remote computer????10:05
cypruserWhenever I go to a website with flash, Firefox crashes. How do I fix this problem?10:05
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jgedeonTom_: What gets me is you are getting the flash screen then it kicks out.10:06
morpheus74Can I just install PHP with out doing a server install - I don't really want to re-install Ubuntu.10:06
bulmerdsquare: you have to install a client on your remote computer10:06
cypruserdsquare: I know UltraVNC supports browser connections.10:06
CorpseFeederun_operateur: it says /usr/bin/dcopserver10:06
un_operateurdsquare, VNC does not use internet explorer -- VNC is a program that runs on your computer waiting for connectiosn to be made to it -- once done, it serves the clients a picture of your desktop10:06
dsquarei cant install a client.. cyprus i will look for ultravnc.10:06
debhow do i start mutiple consoles with svncviewer10:06
un_operateurCorpseFeeder, ok -- run it -- dcopserver&10:06
jgedeonTom_: you could scp and copy the file that way we can see it and see if there was a basic typo.10:07
timo901how can i do a recovery with the cd10:07
dsquaremy requirement is that i access my pcs interface using internet explorer on a remote pc.10:07
bking39116un_operateur:  thanks!10:07
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dsquarethank you all for the help and informatino!10:07
timo901ds10:07
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timo901its easy10:07
Tom_jgedeon: come to mention it, I haven't seen the splash screen lately.  didn't even cross my mind that that stopped.10:07
CorpseFeederun_operateur: ok, it runs and restarts now10:07
jgedeonSo it's just failing to term now?10:08
un_operateurbking39116, i didnt know what you meant -- but lsusb interrogates the kernel to see if usb devices are plugged in -- almost "pinging" them10:08
un_operateurCorpseFeeder, is k3b working then?10:08
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jgedeonTom_:  in term type startx and see what it does.10:08
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emoI can't update anything in my pc, because I can't download the packages was trying to set up 6.10 and a just made a huge mess in my pc so now what can I do ?10:09
cypruserWhenever I go to a website with Flash, Firefox crashes. How do I fix this problem?10:09
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bking39116un_operateur:  i suppose that is what i meant.  i'm just looking for a way to if a device is still connected and active.10:09
Siph0ndoes anyone use NetworkManager Applet 0.6.2? cause im online wirelessly, but i dont see it listed10:09
un_operateur!repositories | emo -- just make sure you have the repos added10:09
ubotuemo -- just make sure you have the repos added: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource10:09
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Naik0what codec do i need to watch movies in mplayer?10:09
CorpseFeederun:operateur: not quite. it launches now but gives out a pile of error windows.10:10
CorpseFeederun_operateur: not quite. it launches now but gives out a pile of error windows.10:10
bingnet922Quick question, where can I read about compiling with lame (in order to convert to FLV with MP3 audio)? I'm using Ubuntu.10:10
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un_operateurCorpseFeeder, ouch ok -- give us a gist of what they say10:10
bingnet922FFMPEG, that is.10:10
zzzwhat can i type to automaticaly sync current date and time10:10
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un_operateurzzz, ntpdate10:10
bingnet922zzz: ntpdate10:11
cypruserHow do I stop Firefox from crashing on Flash?10:11
zzzahh right, thanks10:11
un_operateurzzz, or time-admin from within the GUI10:11
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zzzdont have gui installed10:11
CorpseFeederI think they are because some permissions I changed earlier are still not set right. errors like "Configuration file "/home/mouser/.kde/share/config/k3brc" not writable."10:11
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Tom_jgedeon:  I just cracked open the case to visually inspect the video card, and it is a NVIDIA GeForce 6 series, so 6800 is probably a good guess.  I'm typing startx ......   got a quick screen of text and now flashing colors.  different from before, but just as useless  ;-)10:11
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un_operateurahh ok -- ntpdate then -- it needs to run as cron job i think10:11
zzzhrm10:11
jpsCan someone help my? I have ubuntu edgy installed... I was wondering if i could try kubuntu... so i wanted to do an apt-get kubuntu-desktop.... but i already have the kubuntu cd, so I wanted to add the kubuntu cd as a repo... but apt-get (or synaptic) doens't recognize the cd, even though I added it10:12
zzz 7 Jan 07:49:21 ntpdate[28002] : no servers can be used, exiting10:12
bruenigcypruser, one way: sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree10:12
synthetiklekker10:12
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synthetikhello mense10:12
zzzi remember using ntpdate few weeks ago when i had same problem10:12
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zzzwhy doesnt it work now?10:12
pygijpiccolo, apt-cdrom or something ?:)10:12
CorpseFeederun_operateur: I think they are because some permissions I changed earlier are still not set right. errors like "Configuration file "/home/mouser/.kde/share/config/k3brc" not writable."10:12
jgedeoncypruser: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox10:12
zzz(my cmos battery is dead and when i have power outage it all goes to hell)10:12
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synthetikzzz - i know the feeling10:12
cypruserThank you all!10:12
Tom_jgedeon:  you menioned before about ssh-ing and copying that file for display here.   now that I _fially_ have network connectivity, is that possible again?10:12
bingnet922un_operateur: zzz: don't run ntpdate as a cron unless ntpd or openntp will not work for you.10:13
jpsyea.. apt-cdrom add.... worked but apt-get still wants to download alll kubuntus packages from the net10:13
jpsnot the cd10:13
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bingnet922a daemon time sync is much superior10:13
un_operateurCorpseFeeder, can you do this -- cat /home/mouser/.kde/share/config/k3brc10:13
pygijps, most probably because packages have been changed10:13
pygijps, checked synaptic?10:13
zzzhrm  why do i get this error message?  7 Jan 07:49:21 ntpdate[28002] : no servers can be used, exiting10:13
un_operateurbingnet922, superior yes, but totally unnecessary at times10:13
debhow do i start mutiple consoles with svncviewer10:13
CorpseFeederun_operateur: cat: /home/mouser/.kde/share/config/k3brc: No such file or directory10:14
jgedeonTom_: lets make another back up copy of your xorg.conf10:14
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bingnet922Quick question, where can I read about compiling FFMPEG with lame (in order to convert to FLV with MP3 audio)? I'm using Edgy.10:14
Tom_jgedeon: ok, done10:14
jpseven  if i disable all repos, when i do apt-cdrom... it reads the cd and imports the key, but synaptic doesn't show any new k* packages10:14
bruenigbingnet922, you are certain that can even be done?10:14
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un_operateurCorpseFeeder, check if the directory exists -- /home/mouser/.kde/share/config10:14
jpswhat am I doing wrong here?10:14
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CorpseFeederthe  /home/mouser/.kde/share/config directory exists10:15
jgedeonTom_:  Just seen this, take a look.  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.2910:15
un_operateurzzz, you might need to change the ntp.conf i think10:15
zzznm it works now i did ntpdate pool.ntp.org10:15
obstfliegenabend10:15
zzzyeah, it's fine now, thanks :)10:15
bingnet922bruenig: I have found some info here: http://po-ru.com/diary/fixing-ffmpeg-on-ubuntu/10:15
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erpoHi. I just installed sweep on Ubuntu Edgy 6.10. When I type sweep in the command line, it instantly crashes.10:16
erpoThe error message is:10:16
CorpseFeederun_operateur: the  /home/mouser/.kde/share/config directory exist but the k3brc file does not.10:16
erpoGThread-ERROR **: GThread system may only be initialized once.10:16
erpoAny ideas?10:16
un_operateurCorpseFeeder, errm, not a good sign -- try this at a command line -- touch /home/mouser/.kde/share/config/k3brc10:17
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un_operateurCorpseFeeder, if that doesnt work, you might as well purge-remove and reinstall k3b10:17
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bruenigbingnet922, what problems are you running into following that10:17
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trev_ok, i have a .avi file, whichprogram would be the best to convert it into a dvd10:17
bingnet922bruenig: very first line, can't build dependencies for ffmpeg10:18
CorpseFeederun_operateur: touch: cannot touch `/home/mouser/.kde/share/config/k3brc': Permission denied10:18
jpsanyone here has instaled both ubuntu and kubuntu with the cd?10:18
Zahrbertrev: K3b10:18
un_operateurCorpseFeeder, did you ever reset permissions on that directory??10:18
jpson the same machine?10:18
Zahrbertrev_:k3b10:18
trev_zahrber:that will convert it?10:18
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Zahrbertrev_:Yes it does encoding also10:19
CorpseFeederun_operateur: I don't remember. I might have. My head hurts.10:19
bruenigbingnet922, what do you get when you do that? what error?10:19
un_operateurCorpseFeeder, ls -ld /home/mouser/.kde/share/config10:19
trev_Zahrber:thankyou, K3B and amork are the two KDE killer apps10:19
Zahrbertrev_:converting is encoding, so also look up encoding10:20
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Zahrbertrev_ Yes10:20
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CorpseFeederun_operateur: drwxrwxr-x 3 root root 4096 2006-12-25 07:18 /home/mouser/.kde/share/config10:20
Tom_jgedeon:  THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU10:20
bruenig!caps10:20
ubotuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.10:20
jgedeonTom_: What?10:20
jgedeonWas that it?10:20
Tom_all: sorry about that10:20
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Tom_jgedeon: yes, that fixed it.  I really appreciate your help10:20
bingnet922bruenig: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38706/10:21
un_operateurCorpseFeeder, sudo chown -R $USERNAME.$USERNAME /home/mouser/.kde/10:21
jgedeonTom_: No problem.  Glad your up and working.10:21
DeagsDoesLinuxok i need help with wine im not surte it got installed im not sure how to install windows programs with it i just plain need help with understanding it10:21
bruenigbingnet922, you must do sudo apt-get build-dep ffmpeg, not sure if that is what the error is about but it could be10:21
Tom_thanks to all who helped me today.  happy holidays10:21
ZahrberDeagsDoesLinux: type winefile in CLI see if it comes up with an explorer10:21
bingnet922bruenig: I ran is as root10:22
CorpseFeederun_operateur: I did " sudo chown -R $USERNAME.$USERNAME /home/mouser/.kde/" now what?10:22
Zahrbera new wine ersion got posted to ubuntu repo today also10:22
un_operateurCorpseFeeder, try k3b again10:22
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jgedeonTom_: now you want to copy your first back up of xorg.conf back and do it all over again so you understand it?10:22
DeagsDoesLinuxwheres an explorer10:22
gradinhow can you execute an install script without sudo ./?10:22
DeagsDoesLinux?10:22
ZahrberDeagsDoesLinux: type winefile in CLI see if it comes up with an explorer like10:23
gradinsudo ./ doesn't work on my script...10:23
un_operateurgradin, sh /path/to/file10:23
DeagsDoesLinuxwhats cLI?10:23
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gradinun_operateur: ? what?10:23
ZahrberDeagsDoesLinux: type winefile in CLI if this comes up then wine is installed10:23
bruenigbingnet922, that error doesn't show up anytime else? It doesn't look like a problem that would be unique to just one package10:23
un_operateurgradin, you read me10:23
CorpseFeederun_operateur: it launched without error now.10:23
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DeagsDoesLinuxwhat is the CLI?10:23
ZahrberDeagsDoesLinux: CLI is command line interface or a terminal10:23
bingnet922bruenig: first occurence10:23
DeagsDoesLinuxo10:23
DeagsDoesLinuxthe terminal10:23
DeagsDoesLinuxok10:23
un_operateurCorpseFeeder, so is that a good thing or not? :)10:24
bruenigbingnet922, well, have you looked for that file, see what its deal is10:24
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CorpseFeederun_operateur: maybe.. I haven't tried to use it yet :)10:24
gradinun_operateur: wait i think i got it thanks10:24
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DeagsDoesLinuxit says creating config directory then poped up a wine file thing10:24
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un_operateurCorpseFeeder, go ahead and try it  :) and cross your fingers and touch wood too :)10:24
bruenigbingnet922, perhaps a sudo apt-get update will cure it10:24
DeagsDoesLinuxwhat am i suposed to do after that10:24
ZahrberDeagsDoesLinux: good then it is installed10:24
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ZahrberDeagsDoesLinux: that should look like a Windows Explorer10:25
needhelpHi, I need help with my new iPod. I've just plugged it to the comp. via USB. And ever since I plugged it to the comp, the iPod display is blinking with "Do not disconnect."10:25
DeagsDoesLinuxkind of10:25
needhelpWhat now?10:25
DeagsDoesLinuxthen how do i install things with it10:25
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unikoni need some help i sudo'd clamav and i got this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38707/10:26
jgdrneedhelp: did you tried to shut it off?10:26
ZahrberDeagsDoesLinux: to use wine first you have to install a Windows app using the wine command on an exe file or setup.bat file10:26
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Siph0nneedhelp: try to "eject" the ipod10:26
DeagsDoesLinuxok and how do i do that10:26
Siph0nthats what u gotta do in windows10:26
jgedeonDeagsDoesLinux: might want to take little trip to ubuntu guide or the wiki and do some looking around it might help you understand.10:26
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DeagsDoesLinuxer10:26
DeagsDoesLinuxwell see the problem i have is i dont understand what they r talkin about10:27
DeagsDoesLinuxever10:27
gradinanybody know why i can't install devede?10:27
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gradindoes anybody know the apt-get package name for it?10:27
gradincuz i'm not finding it...10:27
ZahrberDeagsDoesLinux:easiest maybe is to use file browser and find an exe file and right click and select use Wine Emulator10:27
needhelpSiph0n: No, also I dont see any power buttons on the iPod nano10:27
Zahrberor double click exe or set10:27
bruenigneedhelp, I have not done anything with ipods before but with other usb devices, it generally wants you to right click on it and select unmount10:27
DeagsDoesLinuxok let me try that10:28
bruenig!info devede10:28
ubotudevede: Video DVD creator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 243 kB, installed size 664 kB10:28
brueniggradin, do you  have multiverse enabled?10:28
Siph0nneedhelp: the buttom button is the power button10:28
jgdrneedhelp: hold center buton on the ipod10:28
Siph0nlike the button touchpad button10:28
gradinbruenig: i belive so10:28
vox754un_operateur: were you able to help the Serbian guy from the other time?10:28
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Siph0noh, its center? i coulda swore it was the bottom one :)10:28
ZahrberDeagsDoesLinux: To use Wine it is great but you are gonna have to do some reading to get it to work like you want go to WineHQ website10:28
brueniggradin, sudo apt-get install devede doesn't return anything?10:28
gradinbruenig: no it doesn't10:29
un_operateurvox754, ha ha -- I didnt even try10:29
brueniggradin, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list10:29
bruenig!paste10:29
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)10:29
un_operateurvox754, how did you get along?10:29
ZahrberDeagsDoesLinux: for me to set here and type the usage of WINE would be to much but it is well documented then if you have problems ask for help10:29
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vox754good, albeit now I have a problem with wireless...10:29
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un_operateurvox754, thats about one problem i can't ever solve (yet)10:30
needhelpbruenig: right click on what icon? I can right click on the "ipod"-directory under media, where it has its mountpoint, but theres no "eject" selecting there, just ordinary things like other directories10:30
compengihow to copy using cp command in the terminal a specific directory10:30
ZahrberDeagsDoesLinux: WINE is easy once you get the hang of it but you have to be willing to try things out and research the AppsDB on WineHQ will give you help also10:30
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bruenigneedhelp, again, I was merely throwing it out, I have never used an ipod with linux, I just know how pissed ubuntu got when I ripped my usb flash drive out without unmounting it, so I was thinking perhaps... obviously that is not the case10:30
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needhelpSiph0n: the buttom button is the power button? Theres no button at the bottom of the device...10:31
LjLUbotu, tell Gavin`Wahl about nickspam | Gavin`Wahl, see the private message from Ubotu10:31
matallomerry xmas10:31
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mnoircompengi: you want a recursive copy?10:31
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bruenig!offtopic | matallo10:31
ubotumatallo: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!10:31
compengimnoir, i want to copy the whole directory10:31
ubek_WHat is the diffrence between Kernel-headers & kenel-source10:31
needhelpjgdr: For how long should I hold center button? Nothing happens after 10 secs or more10:31
gradinbruenig: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38708/10:31
jgdrneedhelp: the button is in the midle of the ipod10:31
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jgdrneedhelp: it has no name on it10:32
un_operateurcompengi, cp -R /path/to/dir /path/to/newdir10:32
mnoircompengi: probably cp -rp <dir> <newloc> is what you want but you ought to understand it by first typing man cp10:32
Zahrberubotu, bring matallo something to drink with his nickspam10:32
jgdrneedhelp: press it and hold it until turns off the ipod10:32
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brueniggradin, change it to this, all I did was add universe and multiverse to line 7 and 8 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38709/10:32
bingnet922bruenig: I restored /etc/apt/sources.list.d/edgy-universe.list from a backup and that quieted errors in synaptic, I ran $apt-get update and it completed successfully, I get the same error when I run $apt-get build-dep ffmpeg10:33
bruenigbingnet922, is the file it says doesn't exist there or not?10:33
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un_operateurbingnet922, what does the error say?10:33
dan2are there any java6 ubuntu packages?10:33
MarcNubek_kernel source is needed to rebuild the kernel (not common) kernel-headers are needed to compile apps (commonly)10:33
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brueniggradin, once you change your sources.list, make sure you do sudo apt-get update, then get devede10:33
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un_operateurdan2, not yet10:33
compengiun_operateur, thanks alot10:34
dan2grr10:34
un_operateurcompengi, yw10:34
needhelpjgdr: I understand which button you talk about, but it seems I can hold it forever without anything happening. I dont think it should be neccessary to hold it for much mire than a minute...?10:34
gradinbruenig: thanks10:34
AnythingJwhat is the best way to burn a bootable cd? half the time I burn cd's they turn out not to be bootable...10:34
un_operateurcompengi, but as mnoir said -- you really need  - man cp10:34
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compengimnoir, and thanks for you too10:34
un_operateurAnythingJ, are you making your own bootable CD?10:35
mnoircompengi: :)10:35
jgdrtry pause/play button and lets see10:35
AnythingJna, just burning xubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso10:35
compengiun_operateur, i've read man cp and found -r but didn't get what it does that's why i asked10:35
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brueniggradin, delete lines 22 and 23, I didn't see that you already had universe enabled. You will get errors if you don't since it is now listed twice10:35
dan2un_operateur: even some broken ones?10:35
dan2i.e. experimental onces10:36
dan2ones10:36
un_operateurdan2, there may be some unofficial .debs floating about -- but none that ubuntu officially supports10:36
dan2who cares if ubuntu supports them10:36
mnoirdan2: you do10:36
needhelpjgdr: same result with play/pause button10:36
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gradinbruenig: thnx10:36
un_operateurdan2, well, if you really want the latest and greatest, why are you even using .debs ?? :)10:36
vox754!Enter > dan210:36
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un_operateurdan2, just download the packages from sun and use them10:37
gradin...10:37
jgdrneedhelp: I remember now that there is a key combination for that case,10:37
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gradinbruenig: i did a sudo apt-get update and it still doesn't list...10:37
needhelpjgdr: do you remember the key combination too? ;)10:37
brueniggradin, now do sudo apt-get install devede10:37
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jgdrno, do you have the ipod manual on hand?10:38
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gradinbruenig: couldn't find package10:38
needhelpyes10:38
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brueniggradin, and your sources.list looks like the one I posted?10:38
jgdrsearch there in troubleshoting section10:38
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bking39116anyone have any experience with Brother HL-1440 to disable power saving?10:38
AnythingJwhat command can I use to burn ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso so that it is bootable? nero seems to only work every other time10:38
DeagsDoesLinuxhey how do i move stuff off of my desktop to another folder10:38
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whyameyeis there an easy way to have the sound cards on my box identifiied?10:39
DeagsDoesLinuxi accidentally installed ventrilo to my desktop10:39
un_operateurdan2,  http://download.java.net/jdk6/binaries/10:39
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idlemindbking39116: no; are you trying to stop the printer from going offline after x-amount of time?10:39
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mnoirDeagsDoesLinux: in yer home you have a folder called Desktop10:39
jgdrneedhelp: try with center button and pause, or <-  and ->  at the same time10:39
DeagsDoesLinuxo10:39
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DeagsDoesLinuxnm10:39
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n2diyDeagsDoesLinux: drag and drop?10:39
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DeagsDoesLinuxit was just a shortcut10:39
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DeagsDoesLinuxim dumb10:39
bking39116idlemind: yes.  I want to get rid of CUPS "Printer not connected; will retry in 30 seconds"10:39
gradinbruenig: i've repasted it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38710/10:40
brueniggradin, it might be edgy only. Here is the deb. http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/d/devede/devede_2.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb10:40
DeagsDoesLinuxhas anyone in here ever installed ultima online in here for a free server on a linux box?10:40
jgdrneedhelp: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=6170510:40
gradinbruenig: what do i do with that?10:41
bruenigDeagsDoesLinux, ultima is far too arrogant10:41
idlemindbking39116: i'd try looking @ brother's web-site and possibly contacting there tech support; i've never heard of a lower lvl printer like that w/power save10:41
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erponeedhelp: Don't reboot your ipod.10:41
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erponeedhelp: I have used an iPod with linux. You need to eject it. Go to the command line and type "eject /dev/path/to/ipod" without the quotes.10:41
brueniggradin, open a fresh terminal (i.e. make sure you are in your home directory) and do the following: wget http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/d/devede/devede_2.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb && sudo dpkg -i devede_2.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb10:42
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bking39116idlemind:  just printed the configuration page from the printer and it says that power save is on.  I'd like to save a few bucks on electric each month, but I'd like to print even more!10:42
un_operateurgradin, here is a neater sources.list for you -- http://pastebin.ca/29119210:42
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DeagsDoesLinuxwhat do u mean by too arogant?10:42
bking39116idlemind:  I've looked on the Brother website.  their docs are not all that.10:42
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gradin  File "/usr/local/bin/devede", line 22, in ?10:43
gradin    import pygtk # for testing GTK version number10:43
gradinImportError: No module named pygtk10:43
idlemindbking: as is typical; have you hit up google groups leaving linux out of the search phrase?10:43
needhelperpo, jgdr: thanks so far!:)10:43
DaReD3ViLHello, i have a problem seeing flash images in firefox on ubuntu.... I followed the ubuntuguide on how to install micromedia flash, but it has failed10:43
brueniggradin, if you get any errors, try installing all the dependencies it says it needs, sudo apt-get install python mencoder dvdauthor mplayer mkisofs10:43
erponeedhelp: Did it work?10:44
bruenigDaReD3ViL, what does about:plugins tell you about flash in firefox10:44
gradinbruenig: all are already installed10:44
DaReD3ViLapplication/x-shockwave-flash Flash Plugin swf Yes10:44
DaReD3ViLapplication/futuresplash Future Splash spl Yes10:44
DaReD3ViLenabled=yes10:44
jgdrit was frozen or connected?10:45
bking39116idlemind:  haven't tried googrpoups yet.  thanks for the pointer.10:45
DaReD3ViL    File name: libflash-mozplugin.so10:45
idlemindbking: ya give it a whirl; i have a low end samsung laser and it doesn't have that issue so it's a tuffy10:45
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DaReD3ViLdoesn't work, when  a page with flash shows up, it's blank10:45
gradinbruenig: did i mention i'm running kde?10:45
kodatanyone here burn video dvds?10:46
brueniggradin, it should work, if you have all the dependencies installed10:46
gradinbruenig: it doesnt...10:46
kodatdoes nero work with wine? or is there a webpage i can see a list of apps that work with wine10:46
DaReD3ViLanyone here know how i can fix this?>10:47
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bruenigDaReD3ViL, open a fresh terminal and copy and paste everything after the colon: sudo apt-get remove libflash-mozplugin && wget http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/pool/edgy/3v1n0/flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.21.78-3v1ubuntu0_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.21.78-3v1ubuntu0_i386.deb10:47
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DaReD3ViLall in one line bruenig?10:47
brueniggradin, well I don't know, I just did it on my computer, can't imagine what the problem is10:47
bruenigDaReD3ViL, yes10:47
DaReD3ViLok10:47
tim167kodat: http://appdb.winehq.org/10:47
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kodattim167, thx10:48
bruenigkodat, there are many threads on how to do it in the forums. I followed one that works, I might be able to find it10:48
gradinbruenig: could running kde make it fail?10:48
DaReD3ViLokay running that command bruenig10:48
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kodatbruenig, if you could find it that would be great..i was looking for a simple drag and burn kinda thing like nero..but everything has a lot of syncing and stuff, i wanted to try and stay away from that if possible10:49
DeagsDoesLinuxhey why is ultima too arogant and what does that mean10:49
bingnet922un_operateur: the error now reads http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38711/10:49
ParaDoX34690How can I dual boot ubunto and Windows xp?10:49
DaReD3ViLbruenig, can i pm you with the errors i got?10:49
bingnet922bruenig: the error now reads http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38711/10:49
bruenigDeagsDoesLinux, the site that they had up before its arrival was just really funny, said that it was going to revolutionize computing, I just thought it was funny, don't mind that comment10:49
bruenigDaReD3ViL, I suppose10:49
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DaReD3ViLhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38712/10:50
ParaDoX34690!ubotu dual boot10:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dual boot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:50
bruenigbingnet922, unable to find source package would seem to indicate you don't have the deb-src repo enabled10:50
LjL!dual boot is <alias> dualboot10:50
ubotuI'll remember that, LjL10:50
LjL!dualboot10:50
ubotuDual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)10:50
bingnet922ParaDoX34690: If you have Windows already installed you can boot the Ubuntu live cd and it will create a boot menu so you can choose which OS to load when you boot10:50
DaReD3ViLi pasted it to that link insted10:50
n2diyParaDoX34690: Clean up your Windows partition, and then install Ubuntu10:50
DeagsDoesLinuxo ok sorry i thought u were throwing some computer term like it wouldnt work or something lmao10:50
bruenigDaReD3ViL, sudo apt-get update10:50
ParaDoX34690oh, i'm just running straight Ubuntu right now..10:50
ParaDoX34690so I have to install Windows from scratch10:51
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DaReD3ViLW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems10:51
DaReD3ViLE: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.10:51
bingnet922ParaDoX34690: you have to install Windows first10:51
n2diyParaDoX34690: To late, Winders will _probably_ wipeout Ubuntu.10:51
ParaDoX34690damn winblowz10:51
DaReD3ViLfailed to fetch headers man, apt-get update don't work10:52
gradinhow do i upgrade to edgy?10:52
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bruenigkodat, the howtos I found required some command line stuff, but some of it was graphical drag and drop, just the program it used isn't quite all the way developed so whereas it is supposed to be able to burn it also, it can't yet so you have to do that yourself10:52
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ParaDoX34690thanks guys... I guess I'll have to go that route first then check out that site later... thanks again.10:52
bruenigDaReD3ViL, paste your /etc/apt/sources.list10:52
bingnet922ParaDoX34690: the Windows boot loader will wipe out any other bootloader, Ubuntu will load GRUB with the option to boot your existing Windows partition10:52
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kodatbruenig, aight, thanks anyway..ill just finish downloading windows so i can be lazy and do it that way haha10:52
needhelphow do I export songs to iPod? Should I use gtkpod or just by copying them to /mount/ipod/ ?10:52
bruenigkodat, download windows...hmmm that doesn't sound the least bit illegal :)10:53
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kodatbruenig, well my comp is originally windows so i have my old cd key..not like im cracking it10:53
bruenigkodat, riiiight ;)10:53
DaReD3ViLbrienig, pm10:53
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kodatbruenig, whats the site u used for makin the dvd anyway..maybe ill stop being lazy and do it10:54
erponeedhelp: The built-in ipod firmware will not read music that you just copy to /media/ipod --  you have to use gtkpod or an equivalent program.10:54
fooI just installed ubuntu desktop and my sound isn't working. I want to use also, and alsamixer runs fine .. but it doesn't seem to be working. Any ideas?10:54
LameBMXoh hey .. i asked this a bit earlier ... but then got busy playin with other stuff lol ... anyone know of a nix version of quickbooks?10:54
bruenigkodat, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18393610:54
DaReD3ViLi have a feeling this is going to take forever :(10:54
kodatbruenig, thx10:55
bruenigkodat, essentially it has a script that will install everything you need, then you just open tovid, put the avi in, it will create a raw mpg, you make a dvd file structure out of that mpg, then you make an iso out of that file structure, then you just burn the iso10:55
mnoirLameBMX: gnucash will import some of the Qucikbooks files but there is no linux quickbooks10:55
needhelperpo: but first I have to do mount /media/ipod'10:55
bruenigkodat, they are simple commands though10:55
LameBMXyea i figured that ...10:55
needhelperpo: but first I have to do 'mount /media/ipod' before I can play with gtkpod ?10:55
kodatbruenig, yah i just am so lazy lately haha10:55
n2diyLameBMX: gnucash10:55
bruenigkodat, essentially all you need to do is, mkiso whatever10:55
LameBMXgnucash run via cygwin by chance lol10:55
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erponeedhelp: When you connect your ipod to your computer, your computer should automatically mount it at /mount/ipod.10:55
DaReD3ViLbruenig, what should my sources be?10:56
erponeedhelp: But yes, your ipod must be mounted before gtkpod can work.10:56
mnoirLameBMX: dunno - i do not do cygwin anymore except for minimal compatability10:56
bruenigDaReD3ViL, just copy and paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin10:56
bruenigDaReD3ViL, I will modify accordingly10:56
needhelperpo: I just did eject it, doesnt it get unoumted then?10:56
LameBMXhmmmmm10:56
alecjwneedhelp: if you're using edgy, it will be mounted as /media/<volume label> eg /media/BOB'S IPOD10:56
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kodatbruenig, plus my comp doesnt have much space so encoding stuff back and forth requires lots of space that i dont have10:56
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erponeedhelp: When you eject a removable usb hard drive, it is first unmounted and then ejected.10:57
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erponeedhelp: To try gtkpod, unplug your ipod and plug it back in. That will mount it again.10:57
un_operateurbingnet922, errm, i could find the source -- http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/f/ffmpeg/ffmpeg_0.4.9-pre1.orig.tar.gz  -- it seems your sources.list might not be complete10:58
bruenigkodat, yeah, but nero and them do the same thing, temporarily consumes a whole bunch of space, I guess it probably deletes along the way, so you don't have the avi, mpg, dvd structure, and iso all at once but you could do that yourself...10:58
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DaReD3ViLhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38713/10:59
morvokanyone know if a standard atx board will fit in like an alpha server 5000?10:59
needhelperpo: when I unplug/replug the ipod, the Do not disconnect-message appears again and stays there until I eject it10:59
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erponeedhelp: That's fine. That is what's supposed to happen.11:00
un_operateurmorvok, what form-factory does an alpha 5000 take/use?11:00
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bizinichi`don't know11:00
LameBMXarrrrrr11:00
bruenigDaReD3ViL, that thing is a mess11:00
erpoWhen your iPod says "Do not disconnect", that's the time to run gtkpod.11:00
DaReD3ViLjust give me yours11:00
DaReD3ViLlol11:00
MaheanuuIaOrana Ia Oe!!!  Hello to everyone11:01
morvokun_operateur: its a double wide case, I think it might, but the thing is very heavy and don't want to move it until I am sure.11:01
masterkI'm having an issue with my airport card on my ibm thinkpad 600E, when I boot into xubuntu it says "cs: pcmcia_socket0: time out after reset." repeatitavely until I remove the card then it moves on to starting the of the services11:01
un_operateurDaReD3ViL, here you go -- http://pastebin.ca/29119311:01
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masterkno1 answered in #xubuntu so I thought maybe someone here could help11:02
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un_operateurmorvok, well, it probably does support ATx -- you can always take a screwdriver with you and find out :)11:02
MaheanuuHave any of you set up a Raid5 array unter dapper?11:02
bruenigDaReD3ViL, yes, un_operateur is very good and actually able to read, put that in yours and sudo apt-get update11:02
bruenigs/read/be read11:03
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un_operateurbruenig, i wish my mother said the same things :)11:03
morvokhehe, online pictures!11:03
bruenigDaReD3ViL, make sure to delete all your other repos, because some of your current repos will be duplicates of your own11:03
masterkplease help me I beg anyone and everyone11:03
webmaren... i don't want to know11:03
needhelperpo: ok. Now I've selected some MP3 dirs with the "+ Dirs"-button. How do I send them to the iPod ?11:03
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needhelperpo: Sync-button does not work11:04
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lifepositivehi11:04
sravi_Merry christmas11:04
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bruenig!offtopic | sravi_11:04
ubotusravi_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!11:04
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DiibaHi!11:05
lifepositivei installed a alarm clock 1 week ago!  now I want to run it, but I forgot its name :P  what are some names for alram clocks?11:05
kdegelhas anyone went from flash 9 back to flash 7? i cant find anything online as far as a tutorial11:05
un_operateursravi_, yes, may santa bring you many many presents too :)11:05
bruenig!hi  | Diiba11:05
ubotuDiiba: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!11:05
DiibaIs there any way to get iPod working on a Linux machine, without the windows install!11:05
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Diiba*?11:05
un_operateurlifepositive, you can always do this -- aptitude search alarm | grep -i "^i"11:05
unfunDoes ventrilo work in ubuntu ?11:05
bruenigkdegel, how did you install flash 9, via a deb package or manually?11:05
morvokI know its an odd Idea, but I hope to move the alpha board to a new case.  and install all stuff from my current server in it, as everything will fit nicely, instead of hard drives laying all over a desk with cables.11:05
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kdegelbruenig, i think manually, it was awhile ago though11:06
lifepositiveun_operateur: really?11:06
unfun!ventrilo11:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ventrilo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:06
unfun!vent11:06
un_operateurlifepositive, errm, why would i post that if not?11:06
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:06
webmaren!iPod11:06
ubotuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto11:06
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DiibaTy11:07
insomninjaanyone have an asus laptop?11:07
kdegelbruenig, i think it was manually, i belive i followed the instructions that came with the in the compressed file from adobe11:07
bruenigkdegel, well there should be a file, called libflashplayer.so in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins, or there should at least by a symlink in there to it. You can just delete that and then either get the flash 7 deb or install flash 7 manually if you remember how11:07
JockeT1Hello.11:07
webmarensup?11:07
bruenigkdegel, if that is the case then it might be in ~/.mozilla/plugins11:07
idlemindshort of setting up samba is there a decent way to share a printer w/linux-windows machines?11:07
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webmaren!flash11:07
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:07
kdegelthanks bruenig i was wondering if i would break anything if i did it that way11:08
JockeT1webmaren: Sleeping. ^_^11:08
un_operateuridlemind, probably web printing -- but i dont know how well linux does it11:08
kdegelill read the readme.txt and see where its located11:08
webmarensounds fun11:08
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devouthi11:08
JockeT1Hello.11:08
LjL!msg the bot > unfun11:09
devouti have a cx88 ATI TV Wonder, the system and xawtv recognize it with drivers loaded, but the tv viewer spits out errors the most important of which is:11:09
idlemindk k thanx un i'll look into it11:09
devout ioctl: VIDIOC_REQBUFS(count=2;type=VIDEO_CAPTURE;memory=MMAP):11:09
devout             Device or resource busy11:09
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devoutas far as i can tell nothing is using the card, i certainly didnt start any apps that are11:09
bruenigkdegel, essentially just get the package and copy over libflashplayer.so and libflashplayer.xpt into /usr/lib/firefox/plugins for 7, after you have removed 911:09
devoutThat's xawtv11:10
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ThuNDeR755naber amc0131klar11:10
masterkI'm having an issue with my airport card on my ibm thinkpad 600E, when I boot xubuntu it says "cs: pcmcia_socket0: time out after reset." until I remove the card then it moves on to starting the rest of  the services please help me11:10
kdegelthanks bruenig11:10
MaheanuuI am not getting Dapper to recognize the 5 disc raid5 array I set up in Bios????  Anyone with any ideas on this?11:11
gnudoryanair's website is down!11:11
ZaggynlAnyone knows if there are any hacking games for Linux like DarkSigns or BS hacker?11:12
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un_operateurMaheanuu, I've never done it nor do i have much linux experience with RAID -- but i'd read up on LVM and mdadm if i were you (and google too)11:12
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devoutany ideas JockeT1 ?11:13
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JuhazZaggynl, there's uplink, no idea if it's similar to those11:13
ZaggynlJuhaz, yeah, that's one of em, I'm looking for a more commandline approach11:14
masterkuplink is the best11:14
ZaggynlI could go learn hacking IRL myself, but I prefer doing it in a game ;)11:14
masterkI'm having an issue with my airport card on my ibm thinkpad 600E, when I boot xubuntu it says "cs: pcmcia_socket0: time out after reset." until I remove the card then it moves on to starting the rest of  the services please help me11:14
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DaReD3ViLsame stuff after update11:15
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DaReD3ViLdpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of flashplugin-nonfree:11:16
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un_operateurmasterk, has ubuntu ever booted up alright with the card in before?11:16
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masterkun_operateur no11:16
timo901HI11:16
un_operateurDaReD3ViL, post /etc/sources.list again11:16
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devoutAny ideas about that TV Tuner & xawtv?11:16
bruenigDaReD3ViL, do sudo apt-get upgrade11:16
un_operateurmasterk, are you trying to install linux now? or finished?11:17
DaReD3ViLetc/ spirces?11:17
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DaReD3ViLwait11:17
un_operateurDaReD3ViL, sorry -- /etc/apt/sources.list11:17
bruenigDaReD3ViL, just do sudo apt-get upgrade, I would hope that all those problems with old packages will be updated11:17
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masterki've had it installed for a while un_operateur11:17
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DaReD3ViLots exactly like yours man11:17
DaReD3ViLbruenig, i did11:18
bruenigDaReD3ViL, sudo apt-get upgrade not sudo apt-get update11:18
DaReD3ViLit didn't upgrade11:18
timo901i want to install ubuntu, but i already have it installed with windows,the qestion is will i be able to install it on top of the ubuntu edgy eft11:18
bruenigDaReD3ViL, what did it do11:18
un_operateurmasterk, I have a feeling it might be an ACPI problem -- linux isnt waking the card up at boot11:18
DaReD3ViL  flashplugin-nonfree: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.4-1) but 2.3.6-0ubuntu20 is installe d11:19
DaReD3ViLsays that11:19
DaReD3ViLand some others stuff11:19
bruenigDaReD3ViL, copy and paste sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade into the terminal11:19
bruenigDaReD3ViL, the whole thing, including the &&11:19
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masterkun_operateur is that fixable?11:19
MaheanuuI am not sure of the setup, but shouldn't Ubuntu recognize the Raid Array as one disc, and not 5 individual ones?11:20
DaReD3ViLhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38716/11:20
DaReD3ViLlook11:20
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timo901hi every one i want to install kde11:20
bruenigtim167, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:20
bruenigtimo901, not tim16711:20
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un_operateurmasterk, errm, yea -- i think you just add an "acpi=at" to the kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst11:20
timo901thx11:20
JuhazZaggynl, http://www.pulltheplug.org/wargames/11:20
ZaggynlJuhaz, thanks :D11:21
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timo901do you think this could sort out my ati driver problem11:21
un_operateurDaReD3ViL, errm, its in clear english there -- sudo apt-get install -f11:21
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bruenigDaReD3ViL, do what it says sudo apt-get install -f11:21
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timo901ok now i wait11:21
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DaReD3ViLi did11:21
DaReD3ViLsame shit11:21
bruenigtimo901, doubt it. Installing a new DE wouldnt do much for video drivers11:22
PriceChild!language | DaReD3ViL11:22
ubotuDaReD3ViL: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.11:22
Mikohi and happy christmas11:22
DaReD3ViLokay, i think i got it11:22
Mikoi have a problem with the 3d accleration11:22
masterkun_operateur could you repeat that my irc client only supports 10 lines11:22
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un_operateurDaReD3ViL, ok -- install those dependencies then -- sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree libglib2.0-0 libfreetype6 libc6 libgtk2.0-011:23
Mikoanyone knows help?11:23
DaReD3ViL i just did the update + upgrade11:23
Mikodri and drm is working11:23
DaReD3ViLi think it insatlled them11:23
JackBanditis it possiable to upgrade from breezy to edgy, if I have the .iso downloaded on my box w/out burning it to a cd or anything?11:23
Mikobut glxgears has to less frames11:23
bruenigDaReD3ViL, yes it ought to have11:23
bruenigDaReD3ViL, and then it ought to have also installed flash11:23
Mikothe log says dri is loaded and the kernel has drm support11:24
bruenigDaReD3ViL, go to about:plugins and hopefully it says flash 911:24
un_operateurmasterk, errm, yea -- i think you just add an "acpi=at" to the kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst -- like this  kernel/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-386 acpi=at ro quiet11:24
PriceChild!upgrade | JackBandit11:24
ubotuJackBandit: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes11:24
DaReD3ViLokay cool11:24
Mikookay i get no help here ....11:24
JackBanditand w/out downloading the upgrades, I have directway and get punished for passing the FAP11:24
DaReD3ViLstill waiting on  the upgrade update to finsih11:24
JackBanditcool, I will check that out, thanks11:24
erpoJackBandit: FAP?11:24
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Mikoeveryone is ignoring me11:24
mtraven#channels11:24
bruenigDaReD3ViL, yeah looking at that sources.list, it must have been quite a while since you updating your packages11:24
PriceChildMiko, what graphics card?11:25
bruenig!patience | Miko11:25
ubotuMiko: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines11:25
Mikoi94511:25
DaReD3ViLlol yea11:25
MaheanuuNo, Miko, think that no one knows how to handle what prob you are having'11:25
DaReD3ViLi dont use this computer but once every  week11:25
PriceChildMiko, please pastebin the output of cat /etc/X11/sources,list please11:25
Mikookay i will do11:26
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un_operateur/etc/X11/sources,list ?11:26
MaheanuuPriceChild, I have read a lot of your posts in the forums, have you ever built a raid5 array under Dapper?11:26
MikoPriceChild i have got no sources.list11:26
PriceChildMaheanuu, no sorry :)11:26
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PriceChildMiko, sorry i'm being silly11:26
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Miko?11:27
PriceChildMiko, cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:27
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Mikooh11:27
Mikoso much11:27
digin4how can i get 3d wobbly effects on edgy?11:27
Mikoits like spam to post it here11:28
PriceChild!beryl | digin411:28
ubotudigin4: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl11:28
PriceChild!compiz | digin411:28
ubotudigin4: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems11:28
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timo901what display manager should i use ,just upgraded to kde11:28
digin4thanks11:28
timo901gdm   kdm /11:28
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PriceChildtimo901, doesn't really matter...11:28
timo901PriceChild:11:29
Mikookay some month ago i searched help in kubuntu channel. they where helpfull11:29
timo901ok11:29
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JackBanditFAP = Fair Acces Policy... if you download more then a specified amount of megs w/in a certin period of time then directway will punish you by knocking you down to dial-up speeds for a long period of time... it really stinks11:29
PriceChildI've g2g sorry miko,11:29
un_operateurtimo901, you could try something new out -- like sdm11:29
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timo901bruenig:downloading is done11:30
Mikog2g????11:30
Mikookay goodnight. i will search help somewhere else11:30
timo901400MB11:30
n2diyMiko, got to go.11:30
willskillsgood night11:30
bruenigtimo901, well after it install,s log out and then log in under a kde session11:30
timo901un_operateur:i have already installed gdm11:31
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devoutAnyone have any idea what could cause an "ioctl: device or resource busy" error for a video device11:31
un_operateurtimo901, what works works :)11:31
masterkun_operateur do i put  acpi=at anywhere?11:31
timo901bruenig:dose that mean i can stil go back to gnome just by changing sessions11:32
willskillstimo901, yes it does11:32
timo901un_operateur:i havent tryed it yet11:32
timo901 willskills:thats great11:32
willskillsjust ctrl alt bckspace and change your session :)11:32
timo901un_operateur:will i be able to change to sdm11:33
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timo901il be write back11:33
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un_operateurmasterk, no -- something like this --  kernel   ./vmlinuz.x.x.x.x acpi=at ...11:33
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LameBMXquick ? someone ... key combo to log out .. i crashed it again11:34
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LameBMXberyl still functions .. and i can remember how to lock the screen11:35
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un_operateurLameBMX, CTRL+ALT+F111:35
un_operateurmaybe?11:35
LameBMXnah not that one11:35
jeff2what is the best way to install Edgy Eft on a machine without a DVD drive, only a CD drive?11:35
masterkit says kernel /boot/vmlinuz-x.x.x.x root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet, so I should put it before boot=?11:35
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willskillsctrl alt bckspace?11:35
timo901im back11:36
upd-dapper2edgytrying to upd-dapper2edgy11:36
willskillsto restart x?11:36
wasabi_jeff2: By using hte install CD? :)11:36
LameBMXi dont wanna kill back to consol ... and that dont work the same in ubuntu as it does in others11:36
willskillshi timo90111:36
willskillsworks ok? :>11:36
n2diyjeff2: I don't think it makes any difference?11:36
timo901very fast11:36
timo901i must say glxgears still hasnt improved11:36
jeff2wasabi_, where is the install CD? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/edgy/release/ only has DVD images11:36
un_operateurkernel /boot/vmlinuz-x.x.x.x root=/dev/hda1 acpi=at ro quiet11:36
willskillstimo901, part of the problem is you have an ati card ><11:36
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wasabi_http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/11:37
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masterkat all the places it says kernal and isnt commented out?11:37
rick_can someone help me? I installed k3b through terminal but i do not see it in applications.11:37
jeff2n2diy, the DVD image I downloaded won't fit on a CD-R :(11:37
timo901<willskills>yeh11:37
Bono-ukhey guys11:37
un_operateurmasterk, well, yes11:37
wasabi_jeff2: http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/11:37
n2diyjeff2: I thought you had the cd.11:37
timo901<willskills>funny thing is i could use glx before tryed toinstall the ati drivers11:38
Bono-ukdoes anyone know any online courses which are based on ubuntu, for beginners with linux at all pls?11:38
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jeff2wasabi_, cool, thanks. weird that cdimage.ubuntu.com doesn't have cd images, though...11:38
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wasabi_yeah i agree11:39
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n2diyBono-uk: http://rute.2038bug.com/rute.html.gz11:39
xlr8n4dHello there, I am very eager to get Ubuntu working and connected to the internet, great to have a place that shares knowledge.11:39
willskillshi xlr8n4d11:40
xlr8n4dI have things installed, but having trouble getting the ndiswrapper working with drivers for my wireless adapter.11:40
xlr8n4dHi Willskills11:40
Bono-ukm2diy - thanks mate :)11:40
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n2diyBono-uk: nada11:41
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xlr8n4dWould anyone like to help me to get ndiswrapper working?11:42
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Bono-ukim just trying to read up as much as i can because im going to buy a laptop which i will only use ubuntu on11:42
Bono-uki tried ubuntu on my new pc but not much worked, im guessing some of the hardware is too new to have drivers yet11:43
Naik0how can i manage my icons on my desk11:43
brutopiawhat exactly didn't work11:43
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n2diyBono-uk: Roger on the new hardware.11:43
xlr8n4dI had an extra tower, so I let the Edgy installer partition the 20 gig HD as it saw fit.11:43
rick_i installed k3b but cannot find it in the applications can someone help me11:43
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Bono-ukcouldnt connect to the internet, screen res wouldnt show correctly, freezing problems, wouldnt shut down11:43
n2diyrick_: apps-sound and video-k3b11:44
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Naik0how can i manage my icons on my desk11:44
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rick_n2diy: thats where i thought it should be.. but it's not11:44
fromvegaHello11:44
Bono-ukam i right in thinking any laptop (new) with intel shared graphics (128mb) will work well?11:44
Bono-ukintel GMA 950 i think11:44
masterkit still does it11:44
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JackBanditUpgrade | PriceChild / ubotu: I have been reading those articles and havent gotten anything useful from them. I have tried the mounting of the .iso but dosent seem to do much but tell me it's not a "real debian disk" and when it was burned from a winxp box using nero, I only get on bootup Dr. Dos crap not finding a valid Fat32 or NTFS partition. Would I have to burn the .iso a diffrent way, and if so I am only able to use breeze 5.10 now and would li11:44
JackBanditke to do it w/ that11:44
n2diyNaik0: right click on the desktop.11:44
LameBMXlol11:44
LameBMXthe panel thingies are still dead11:45
Naik0n2diy,11:45
LameBMXbut ctrl-alt-bksp did log out11:45
Nontitleis there a simple program that can just choose a colour and tell me the HTML code for it?11:45
Naik0no11:45
n2diyrick_: Ok, I had trouble when I installed to, remove it with synaptic it a try installing it again.11:45
digin4so what's the best, beryl, xgl or AIGLX?Compiz?11:45
Naik0its an command in the term11:45
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Nontitleprobably beryl11:45
Naik0nautilus something maybe11:45
LameBMXwell im likin beryl11:45
digin4i'll try that :)11:46
LameBMXstill gotta figure out how to get water and skydome to work though11:46
n2diyNaik0: nautilus is the file manager, and it will play with the desktop.11:46
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unfunIs there aprogram like ventrilo for linux?11:47
n2diyunfun: what does ventrilo do?11:47
fromvegaMy linux machine has two NICs, only one of them are connected to the HUB but I can ping both through another machine in the network. Is it right?11:47
unfunventrilo, you talk with a microphone with other people11:47
un_operateurn2diy, nautilus is so tied in with gnome, it sometimes is the desktop -- especially if you run a non-gnome WM and start nautilus, it starts a gnome-session11:47
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Nontitleekiga softphone11:48
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LameBMXhave u tried running bentrilo in wine?11:48
un_operateurfromvega, yes -- that's acceptable11:48
n2diyun_operateur: interesting, why would someone run something besides gnome? ;)11:48
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LameBMXits not like VoIP in the sense of vonage or asterisk11:48
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un_operateurn2diy, because it's heavy (_very_ heavy)11:48
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fromvegaun_operateur: why? how can it find the one that isn't connected?11:49
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n2diyun_operateur: Which is heaver, grome or kde?11:49
rick_n2diy: i still do not see it after reinstalling it11:49
_fnordhow can i ge ubuntu to look/act more like kubuntu?11:49
fromvegaun_operateur: I want to discover which one is eth0 and eth1... how should I proceed?11:49
_fnordn2diy:  kde imho11:49
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n2diyrick, what happens if you type k3b in a terminal11:50
erpo_fnord:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:50
un_operateurfromvega, its to do with how the kernel recieves packets, it's to help in multi-homed networks11:50
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Naaboheya, Do i need to change permisins for www root to get ftp access(full access) to it?11:51
rick_n2diy: now it works .. thank you :D11:51
un_operateurn2diy, thats a good question -- KDE is bloated but kinda springy, gnome's not so bloated but quite unresponsive11:51
xlr8n4dFromvega, what I do is unplug my usb, then the eth0 information is not available when doing an ifconfig, have you looked to compare the MAC address of the hardware?11:51
n2diyrick, nada.11:51
gostviewhappy Xmast all11:51
Nontitlemerry xmast11:51
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un_operateurfromvega, are you looking to find out which interface is eth0 and eth1 on a remote machine?11:52
petafileIs there a way to change the color of the desktop switcher panel app?11:52
fromvegaxlr8n4d: I don't know the MAC address and they are not USB hehehe. One is a onboard NIC and the other is a PCI one.11:52
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Nontitleun_operateur: are you basing that on the fact that everytime you load something, the icon bounces?11:52
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Nontitlei personally like kde better11:52
_fnordwould installing kubuntu-desktop be the same as installing kubuntu?kubuntu really drags my machine down,but i love the way it loks and acts11:52
fromvegaun_operateur: I have local access to the machine.11:52
Nontitleyes, it would be11:52
x-r00t-xhello can anyone tell me how do untgz ?11:52
un_operateurNontitle, i dont use any effects when i use gnome or kde11:53
x-r00t-xtgz11:53
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x-r00t-x!tgz11:53
ubotuFiles with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression11:53
LjLUbotu, tell x-r00t-x about tar | x-r00t-x, see the private message from Ubotu11:53
petafileor the handle on the notification area?(or better yet get rid of the handl altogether :))11:53
upd-dapper2edgyI cannot believe it not possible  to upgrade now11:53
un_operateurfromvega, ifconfig11:53
Nontitlebut i warn you: installing kubuntu-desktop will change the splash screen when ubuntu loads up11:53
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Nontitleun_operateur: it's like that by default11:53
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Peloanyone know a working mirror for rkhunter updates ?  none of the ones I have in the list work11:54
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fromvegaun_operateur: and how I'm supposed to know which one is the onboard and which one is the PCI one? I do not know their MAC11:54
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un_operateurNontitle, maybe on kubuntu -- but other distro's spruce things up and make it all jazzy and "appealing", you know?11:54
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un_operateurfromvega, ifconfig tells you the MAC address too11:54
Nontitleyeah11:55
n2diyfromvega: ping them, and see which lights blink?11:55
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upd-dapper2edgybtw on user's machine still havent solved firefox crashing on flash contenets sites11:55
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xlr8n4danyone have experience installing the ndiswrapper?  I have the files, but not sucessful in getting them installed and driver loaded for USB network adapter.11:56
eriksaysseriously.  anyone else having trouble w/firefox?11:56
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eriksaysfirefox crashes ALL THE TIME11:56
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fromvegaun_operateur: but can I discover them without knowing the MAC addr?11:56
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un_operateurfromvega, discover ?? what do you mean? what kind of info?11:57
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_fnordhow do i get the sound working on a laptop?11:57
n2diyeriksays: I had trouble installing the flash plugins, wiped out Dapper, and I had to re-install from scratch. Now I don't worry about getting any plug ins.11:57
MattJWhat's best for ripping DVDs in Ubuntu? Possibly encrypted...11:58
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n2diyMattJ, k3b?11:58
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MattJYeah, how to do it with that? I couldn't figure it out...11:58
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MattJIt wants a 'DVD project file'11:59
eriksaysn2diy: you re-installed from scratch?11:59
n2diyMattJ, how do you do what, install k3b, or rip DVDs with it?11:59
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LameBMXcrap .. forgot i started xchat from a term .. brb11:59
MattJI have k3b, how do you rip DVDs?11:59
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n2diyeriksays: I did, that happened a couple of weeks ago.11:59
Symok!guidelines12:00
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines12:00
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eriksaysn2diy: oof. hoping for a different solution12:00
fromvegaun_operateur: which one is eth0 and which one is eth1. Let me explain what is happening. I have 2 NIC's, when I connect the network cable in one of them, I can ping both NICs. But when I connect the cable to the other NIC I can ping none! What can be happening?12:00
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n2diyMattj, I don't know, I don't have a DVD burner.12:00
Goshahow do get scim to start with X? .. the sysconfig folder isn't in the /etc/ folder12:00
eriksaysn2diy: don't care to do a complete re-install. that feels too close to windows12:00
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reconWhat program do you use to play s3m files?12:01
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n2diyeriksays: yep, I don't wish that on anyone. But it was the first bare metal crash in six years of using linux, so that ain't to bad.12:01

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