[01:13] <lotusleaf> Kubuntu > Jesus
[01:17] <Riddell> hmm, deliberately provocative that, I wouldn't say an operating system is greater than a human being
[02:03] <nixternal> heh
[02:14] <NeoChaosX> well, there isn't a water-to-wine conversion package in the repos
[06:30] <nixternal> Merry Christmahanukwanzaaka!
[06:30] <Hobbsee> hey nixternal
[06:30] <nixternal> hiya Hobbsee!
[06:30] <nixternal> how was your holidays?
[06:31] <nixternal> or is
[06:32] <Hobbsee> nixternal: is.  good :)
[06:32] <Hobbsee> nixternal: currently i'm wondering about if canonical can run spamassassin or something on @ubuntu.com and @kubuntu.org email addresses - they appear to be getting spammed a lot!
[06:33] <nixternal> so i have noticed
[06:33] <nixternal> i had a killer spamassassin setup using the perl scripts on my other box and had it trained with so many different filters, and it wasn't all that slow either
[06:33] <nixternal> Tested on Edgy Elf 6.10
[06:33] <nixternal> haha
[06:34] <nixternal> we changed the codename and never told me i guess
[06:34] <Hobbsee> hehe
[06:35] <nixternal> i did my upstream work for the day. wrote 2 guides for kde and am now apart of the KOffice2 stuff which is nuts right now
[06:36] <nixternal> im trying to play catch-up but i seem to be getting nowhere
[06:36] <nixternal> hiya Jucato! Merry Christmas to you as well
[06:36] <Jucato> :)
[06:37] <Jucato> well, then, I'm off to bed. I haven't had a decent sleep in days :)
[06:37] <Jucato> good night :)
[06:37] <nixternal> g'nite bud
[08:36] <froud> hi, where does kmail store the messages
[08:44] <Hobbsee> ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail is a likely place
[08:44] <Hobbsee> + /mail
[08:46] <froud> Hobbsee: I have restored from a backup where the messages where stored in ~/Mail. I see the message subjects, but when I select a message the content is blank. New messages arriving are fine. Somehow the index of old messages is not linking to the message file itself
[08:47] <froud> Hobbsee: when I open the message from Konqueror, the message content is there
[08:47] <Hobbsee> you'd have to ask in #kmail or something
[08:47] <froud> thx
[08:48] <froud> nobody in kmail
[08:49] <Hobbsee> ah
[08:49] <Hobbsee> or #kde
[08:54] <nixternal> i have seen that before as well, and I can't remember if I fixed it or deleted it
[08:59] <froud> Hobbsee: nixternal: seems like you must import the old messages, it's not enough just to extract the backup archive
[09:00] <Hobbsee> long live imap!
[09:00] <Hobbsee> :P
[09:00] <froud> but this imports all to Kmail-import in Mail folder
[09:01] <froud> Which means all rules/filters you setup will not work unitil you copy the stuff in the import back to the Mail/
[09:01] <nixternal> froud: you would think extracting would be fine, because i usally archive my mail folder before and install and then just extract
[09:02] <froud> Correct. Also the config stuff in .kde if you forget to backup that then your mail backup is useless
[09:04] <nixternal> ya
[09:04] <nixternal> i just did it last week when i bought this laptop
[09:04] <nixternal> i migrated from my desktop to this machine w/o any issues
[09:04] <froud> Santa came early then?
[09:04] <nixternal> well Santa didn't put the money in my wallet :)
[09:04] <Hobbsee> hehe
[09:04] <nixternal> actually, maybe he did
[09:04] <froud> :-)
[09:05] <Hobbsee> please tell me you didnt just dump it on your credit card :P
[09:05] <nixternal> i goto school using my GI Bill and Illinois Veterans Grant from the military. So school is free, and I get paid for being a full-time student
[09:05] <froud> I finally moved my desktop (workhorse) from SuSE to Kubuntu (no more SuSE after 6 years)
[09:05] <nixternal> Hobbsee: i only pay cash
[09:05] <Hobbsee> smart...
[09:05] <Hobbsee> where are the kickoff packages, btw?  did tonio ever fix them?
[09:06] <nixternal> i have 1 credit card for emergency purposes. i have had this same card for almost 15 years now, but i use my check/debit card for most of my transactions
[09:08] <froud> Let's see, since yesterday I installed and configured my router/firewall with Ubuntu Server, Installed a File Server and configured Samba on Ubuntu, and redid my desktop with Kubuntu. Now it's time Santa did some work :-)
[09:08] <Hobbsee> nice :)
[09:09] <froud> Now I sit and watch a 2.3 GB mailbox import to Kmail
[09:10] <froud> I still can't get Kubuntu to join the Samba Domain
[09:10] <froud> But WinK2 client do just fine
[09:11] <froud> samba on ubuntu is a bitch
[09:12] <nixternal> froud: what issues are you having?
[09:12] <Hobbsee> it is :(
[09:12] <nixternal> i have no problems with my samba config
[09:13] <nixternal> you added your network name to /etc/samba/smb.conf i assume
[09:14] <froud> nixternal: Yah, as I said, Wink2 host can join domain and connect to Samba Domain no problem. Cant do that on Kubuntu
[09:14] <nixternal> hmm
[09:15] <froud> nixternal: smbclient with command net rpc join -D ENBAYA -U administrator
[09:15] <froud> returns
[09:15] <froud> Unable to find a suitable server
[09:15] <nixternal> hmm, now that is an odd one
[09:15] <nixternal> see, i don't have a domain, hence why samba works great :)
[09:15] <froud> Strange cause as I said, win2k just works ;_0
[09:16] <froud> You setup stand-alone
[09:16] <nixternal> ya, to share between the desktops w/o doing anything crazy
[09:17] <nixternal> between my kubuntu boxes i just use scp for transferring stuff
[09:17] <froud> I am a bit of a kio slave
[09:30] <froud> hehe, 22169 message in the last year
[10:37] <fdoving> fish:/ :)
[11:02] <mhb> enjoy the holidays folks, I'm going to be away for a couple of days enjoying them myself :o)
[11:05] <Hobbsee> bye mhb!
[11:12] <Jucato> Hobbsee: Merry Christmas! (although it's already about to end for us :P )
[11:14] <Hobbsee> Jucato: indeed!  you too :)
[11:14] <Hobbsee> 2 hours 45 mins
[11:15] <Jucato> LD
[11:15] <Jucato> :D
[11:37] <Lure> hi all
[11:38] <Hobbsee> hey Lure!
[11:38] <Lure> any core-dev around for xmas upload: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3873
[11:38] <Lure> ;-)
[11:38] <Hobbsee> hey Riddell!  Merry christmas!
[11:38] <Riddell> et toi Hobbsee
[11:38] <Lure> hi Hobbsee - merry xmas
[11:39] <Hobbsee> Lure: please tell me that you're part of the extra's team, will shove your changes into debian, then will sync.
[11:39] <Lure> allee: merry xmas - and thanks for digikam packages
[11:39] <Lure> Hobbsee: it is from allee and he asked to get them uploaded two days ago, but only digikam was uploaded...
[11:39] <allee> Lure: same to you!  And all other how happen to celebrate xmas
[11:39] <Hobbsee> ah
[11:39] <allee> hi Hobbsee
[11:40] <allee> was tonio here the last days?  digikam upload was done by Riddell.  but d-imageplugins is in universe.  So any motu can upload
[11:41] <Riddell> hmm, I did upload d-imageplugins
[11:41] <Riddell> but it hasn't appeared in feisty changes
[11:41] <Riddell> Successfully uploaded digikamimageplugins_0.9.0.orig.tar.gz to upload.ubuntu.com.
[11:41] <Lure> Riddell: this is what happens if you upload on your b-day ;-)
[11:43] <allee> Riddell: oh, you had b-d 23rd?  So a bit delayed 'All the best' from me!
[11:46] <Lure> allee: you should announce it somewhere (digikam site)
[11:46] <Riddell> what a mystery, that upload has completely disappeared
[11:46] <Lure> Riddell: try again ;-)
[11:48] <tuxplorer>   http://pastebin.com/844598 I'm unable to login to KDE4 that I installed recently.. I'm on ubuntu edgy. The above link is my .xsession-errors
[11:48] <allee> Lure: right. yesterday it was to late.  Familie would have killed me when I tried to return to the computer ;)
[11:49] <Hobbsee> Riddell: you'd forgotten to regularly sacrifice to the soyuz gods?  shame!
[11:49] <Riddell> tuxplorer: looks like a gnome session that
[11:50] <tuxplorer> Riddell: Ah! ya. I was wondering why it tried to load gnome-panel in KDE ;)
[11:51] <Lure> allee: I can imagine - just got my 30 computer minutes today ;-)
[11:51] <tuxplorer> what happened is that it logged out immediately saying that some error occurred and the session didn't last even 10 secs.. and asked me to look into .xsession-errors
[11:51] <allee> Riddell: thx
[02:16] <fdoving> joth: then i can't help you.. i'm afraid. I don't have an ipod. the one i had is probably still swimming in the sea somewhere.
[02:17] <Hobbsee> hey fdoving
[02:17] <Hobbsee> ouch @ the ipod
[02:17] <fdoving> hi hobbsee.
[02:17] <fdoving> oh.. this is -devel.. that message shoud be in #kubuntu..
[02:18] <fdoving> ouch @ the ipod, yeah. long time ago though..
[02:18] <Hobbsee> hehe
[02:20] <fdoving> so, you've finished celebrating christmas already?
[02:20] <Hobbsee> yeah
[02:20] <Hobbsee> and we wont eat you for posting such things in -devel
[02:20] <highvoltage> heh
[02:21] <Hobbsee> hey highvoltage
[02:21] <highvoltage> hey Hobbsee
[02:21] <highvoltage> merry xmas to you
[02:21] <Hobbsee> you too :)
[02:21] <toma> Hobbsee: i'm not too sure about that
[02:21] <Hobbsee> toma: not too sure about which?  me adding offtopic stuff to -devel?
[02:21] <toma> Hobbsee: no, you not eating people
[02:22] <Hobbsee> toma: i spear them with my Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  - i dont tend to eat them
[02:22] <Hobbsee> much
[02:22] <Hobbsee> especially not today
[02:22] <toma> oh, thats nice ;-)
[02:22] <highvoltage> eating people is against CoC, btw ;)
[02:22] <toma> highvoltage: is it? i did not read it in there....
[02:22] <Hobbsee> highvoltage: hush!
[02:22] <fdoving> luckily i haven't seen any rfc about eating people over tcp/ip.
[02:22] <Hobbsee> highvoltage: defenestrating them may or may not be
[02:23] <highvoltage> toma: well, perhaps we can let it slide, since CoC doesn't implicitely state that eating people is bad
[02:23] <Hobbsee> hehe
[02:23] <toma> if it leads to solving bug 1, well, we just have to do it
[02:23] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/1
[02:23] <Hobbsee> what, eat all the windows users?
[02:24] <highvoltage> yuck. they taste horrible.
[02:24] <highvoltage> (or so I heard)
[02:24] <Hobbsee> you've tried????
[02:24] <toma> we probably don't know what is in there exactly
[02:24] <highvoltage> they have all kinds of diseases and virusses
[02:25] <toma> would solve most of the spam though
[02:26] <fdoving> toma: i like the Forward to button :)
[02:26] <toma> fdoving: yeah, me too ;-)
[02:27] <toma> fdoving: should 'new' be the same?
[02:27] <fdoving> toma: yes, that would be smart.
[02:27] <toma> fdoving: are you going to do that?
[02:27] <fdoving> toma: make it? I can try.
[02:28] <toma> sure, look at the diff and do the same for new.
[02:38] <toma> ok
[02:39] <toma> gonna join some windows users now....
[02:39] <toma> bye all
[02:39] <fdoving> bye.
[02:45] <Jucato> Hobbsee: will knetworkmanager in Feisty will handle PPPoE ADSL setup/configuration/monitoring?
[02:45] <Hobbsee> Jucato: no idea.  iirc not so far
[02:45] <Jucato> oh ok. thanks :)
[02:50] <nixternal> santa forgot my house!
[02:51] <Jucato> :O
[03:02] <nixternal> yay
[03:02] <nixternal> bits of glue?
[03:02] <nixternal> haha
[03:02] <nixternal> thanks fdoving!
[03:03] <fdoving> you're welcome.. this house is so full of toys it would be a pleasure to give some of them away.
[03:04] <Hobbsee> yes, off the back of this card
[03:08] <fdoving> nice. my mailody hack almost works.
[03:10] <Hobbsee> yay!
[03:10] <nixternal> Hobbsee: hahahahah, my gift card had that too, and i stuck it to the dog
[03:11] <Hobbsee> hehe
[03:11] <nixternal> Hobbsee: does everything close up there for christmas?
[03:11] <Hobbsee> yep :D
[03:11] <Hobbsee> well, not hospitals, etc - like the crucial stuff
[03:12] <Hobbsee> not petrol stations either - but htey're being run by muslims, as they dont celebrate christmas
[03:12] <Hobbsee> poor people
[03:12] <nixternal> you know what, with the US being such a melting pot nowadays, there are actually places open today
[03:12] <Hobbsee> hey Zerlinna
[03:12] <nixternal> and on thanksgiving night a lot of stores opened here
[03:12] <nixternal> it just isn't the same anymore
[03:12] <Zerlinna> hi Hobbsee :)
[04:08] <jjesse> merry christmas to anyone on :)
[04:08] <Jucato> merry christmas jjesse!
[04:08] <jjesse> thanks Jucato
[04:09] <jjesse> wife is cooking in kitchen so i thought i would check my mail and stuff :)
[04:09] <Jucato> heh :)
[04:21] <nixternal> merry christmas jjesse!
[04:21] <jjesse> hiya nixternal
[04:21] <jjesse> how are things in chi-town?
[04:21] <nixternal> cold :)
[04:21] <jjesse> yeah?  snow?
[04:22] <nixternal> nah, we didn't get lucky
[04:22] <jjesse> we just had some frost in GR this morning
[04:23] <nixternal> same here
[06:56] <Lure> Riddell: still no digikamimageplugins... :-(
[07:09] <Riddell> it's a mystery
[07:09] <Riddell> probably need to wait until the new year to find out what's happening to it
[07:21] <soulrider> hi everyone :)
[07:22] <soulrider> i need someone to submit the package i amde of the latets evrsion of filelight sonce the one in the repos is outdated
[07:26] <Riddell> oh and this being a holiday you may need to stay around and keep poking :)