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towyncyeah that channel is dead lol12:13
upd-dapper2edgyask price----12:13
Zamber!beryl | tomsku12:13
ubotutomsku: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl12:13
towyncso panel bar still transparent =(((12:13
Zamberargh12:13
towynci'll go into a corner and cry now lol12:14
upd-dapper2edgydid you go to transparency and disable it in appearance?12:14
towyncyes12:14
Captain_Haddocktowync: I used http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/BerylOnEdgy and it worked like a breeze.12:14
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Zambertowync do you have Option    "Composite" "Disable" ?12:14
towyncthx i'll sure check it out12:14
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Zamberin your xorg.conf12:15
towyncno i don't, but it looks for composite tho12:15
towynci had composite enable12:15
towyncthen i think i commented out the entire line12:15
ernzHello, can someone please tell me how I could convert a 160MB MP4 into a 3GP that would work on my phone?12:15
Captain_Haddocktowync: are you using the nvidia driver?12:15
Zambertowync DRI on?12:16
butchartgracias captain12:16
towynci'm pretty sure i'm using nvidia fx590012:16
towyncZamber thx, but what's DRI?12:16
Captain_Haddockbutchart: de nada12:16
Zamber!DRI12:16
ubotudri is direct rendering infrastructure, a framework for allowing direct access to graphics hardware under the X Window System in a safe and efficient manner.12:16
towynchow do i enable it tho12:16
towyncshould i google for it12:16
Zambertowync run glxinfo and check it12:16
Zamberline nr. 312:16
towynccool12:17
towyncjust for fun, dri on google has a link to dirty rotten imbeciles lol12:17
Captain_Haddocktowync: I recommending following that guide and saving yourself some time :)12:17
towync*checking*12:17
Zamber:D12:17
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towyncCaptain_Haddock i followed that guide and others as well =) somehow beryl's not liking me for some reason,12:18
Captain_Haddocktowync: ah :(12:18
towyncZamber, checking output for glxinfo, i put on a new background picture today and konsole is transparent to background and hard as heck to read12:18
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_fnordhow do i tell if glx is running?12:18
=== towync i will have a 7800gs to try beryl on, once i get 200 dollars lol
Captain_Haddock:P12:19
_fnordim on ubuntu 5.1012:19
Captain_Haddock_fnord: type glxgears12:19
ernzAnyone?12:19
ernz!3gp12:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 3gp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:19
towyncZamber it says direct rendering on12:19
Zambergreat12:19
towyncZamber yeah i know lol =)12:20
Zamberdo you have xgl or aiglx ?12:20
_fnordCaptain_Haddock: what now?the gears are there and moving as always,does that mean its on?less jumpy then when i was on kubuntu12:20
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towynci know i don't have xgl, and i'm using kubuntu edgy so i'm assuming aiglx came with it, cuz when i try to run beryl, it says can't find xgl, and then it says attempting to start beryl without xgl, then freezes there12:20
premierhey, I swapped capslock and backspace on my computer but I have trouble making it perminant12:21
_fnord!beryl12:21
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl12:21
Captain_Haddock_fnord: that means you have opengl installed :) I thought that was your question :P12:21
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Zambertowync make sure you have aiglx running (follow a tut) and then start playing with beryl ;)12:22
Zamber!aiglx12:22
ubotuAIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.12:22
towyncZamber could you tell me how to get aiglx running hehe, i'm a total newbie12:22
_fnordi want to try and get beryl up and running12:22
_fnordis what i sould of said12:22
Zambertowy just google ;) there are lots and lots of tuts out there ;)12:22
towynctuts = tutorial right12:23
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towyncjust checking =)12:23
Zamberyep12:23
towynck, thx alot =)12:23
Captain_Haddock_fnord: I followed http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/BerylOnEdgy12:23
Zamberyou're welcone ;)12:23
Zamberwelcome ;)12:23
Captain_Haddock_fnord: and there's that dedicated channel linked above..12:23
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ZamberI was trying to run aiglx myself12:23
Zamberbut I have a ATI -_-12:23
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cntbtowync,  join #ubuntu-xgl must12:23
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Whopperum12:24
_fnordthanks12:25
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towynccntb that channel seems dead, everyone says to go there tho =)12:26
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_fnordyeah xgls been dead alot today,but wait around and youll probly get an answer12:28
upd-dapper2edgywill  Upgrading using apt-get12:29
upd-dapper2edgyseems the only path available12:29
upd-dapper2edgytowync channel alive12:29
upd-dapper2edgypatience12:29
_fnordCaptain_Haddock: im guesseing thats not the same procedure for seting it up on 5.1012:30
upd-dapper2edgy!patience12:30
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines12:30
OODhow do you search for packages with apt-get ?12:31
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OODnevermind, found out how (quick google :P)12:32
upd-dapper2edgyOOD, sudo apt-cache search12:41
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AshexI'm having issues getting kubuntu to boot up.12:45
AshexRecently it began to randomly reboot while i was logged in. Now it freezes while kubuntu is loading12:45
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Ashexand when it does load and I enter my login info, it reboots as soon as i'm logged in12:46
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Ashexany ideas on what may be causing this?12:46
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premierhey matthew__, you there?12:48
premierI swapped the capslock and backspace keys on my keyboard, but I cant make it perminant12:48
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zach_hm...I just installed kubuntu on my pc cuz my xp pro messed itself up...what is this thing?12:51
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matthew__I'm sorry, Matthew is not available right now. Please leave a message after the beep.12:51
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Whopperzach_: an operating system12:54
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zach_I know that its an os, I just was figuring out what konversation is...a chatroom appartently12:56
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thanoshi guys12:57
Blizzzekzach_: it is an irc client...12:57
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matthew__irc = internet relay chat12:57
thanosi think that kde is faster than gnome i have this feeling12:57
zach_<whopper> how long have you been using kubuntu?12:57
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_fnordsince i woke up yesterday morning,i think ive been useing it in my sleep telpathicly...12:58
matthew__Ok I'm back...01:00
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Whopperzach_: about a month01:02
Whopperi switched from windows xp home01:02
semsettinhallo01:03
Whopperhey01:03
semsettinhow are you01:03
zach_so, do you all have a bit of progamming experience then?01:03
Whopperhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konversation01:03
Whopperwell...01:03
Whopperi do KNOW some python, a just a bit of perl needed to configure irssi01:04
semsettin:)01:04
Whoppersemsettin: good :)01:04
Whopperyou?01:04
semsettinthanks01:04
semsettinme too01:04
semsettinok se you later01:05
semsettinbye01:05
zach_I dont really know any programming languages, but I think I'm going to continue my networking minor01:05
Whopperah01:06
Whopperzach_: there are good terminal programs you can help to do work on01:06
premierhey matthew__: I swapped capslock and backspace, but I cant make the changes perminant01:06
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matthew__premier, let me look around, brb01:07
zach_cool, I'm going to work on all this stuff since I have a ton of free time on break right now and unfortunately no job01:07
Whopperah01:08
zach_I had this urge to try and be like (a/s/l) like the little kids on aol used to do, haha01:08
Whopperso...01:08
Whopper:P01:08
Whopperdid you use shipit?01:08
premierbtw, I was thinking of rewriting the kclockapplet (the one on the right of the kicker) to do some cool things like show decimal time.  How is that done?01:08
nibletsHow can I get my iPod to work on kubuntu edgy?01:10
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nibletsA new xmas gift, and I cant use it D=01:10
ForgeAushey all Merry Christmas!01:10
cloakableniblets: plug it in with amarok running :)01:10
Whopperany a happy new year :P01:10
nibletsI have01:10
ForgeAuslol Whopper I usually say seasons greetingz and all that jazz01:11
nibletsit didnt auto-run anything, if it was supposed to01:11
cloakableAhhh01:11
nibletsDoes it have to be open, or can it be in suystem tray?01:11
premieryeah, in my experience, linux actually mounted it as a external hard drive.  I could even copy off the songs01:11
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dettoaltrimenti_why in Konqueror when I look in the root directory I can't see /bin or any of those?01:12
nibletsis there anyway to mount it?01:12
matthew__premier, the following command will open up your keymap...you might be able to change some of the keys...not too sure though...01:12
matthew__lkl -l -k /usr/share/lkl/keymaps/us_km -o log.txt01:12
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ForgeAuswell I managed to screw up my kubuntu, but I'm going to reinstall it01:13
Whopper:P01:14
nibletsDamn this christmas01:14
nibletsiPod = best gift ever = not usable01:14
Whopper:(01:14
nibletsand windows doesnt have access to my 12gb music GAR01:14
dettoaltrimenti_niblets, I just installed an ipod shuffle on edgy01:14
zach_so if the ipod is used as an external hd according to this os, can I put all my music back on my computer w/o having to swap my hd into a windows computer and that jazz?01:14
premierwait, matthew, I got the key swap to work fine, I just want to make the changes perminant01:14
dettoaltrimenti_niblets- are you using amarok?01:14
premierhow do you spell that word?01:14
matthew__premier, oh...ok...h/o01:15
nibletsdettoaltrimenti_01:15
nibletsIndeed01:15
matthew__premier, permanent01:15
Whopperzach_: I believe so01:15
premierokay01:15
zach_sweetness then01:15
nibletsbut when I go to media device, I dont know what to put for the mount and unmount commands01:15
dettoaltrimenti_you don't need to do that01:15
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premierI was told that If i put a line in /home/premier/.XSession it will do it every boot, but it doesnt01:16
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dettoaltrimenti_one sec01:16
nibletskk01:16
matthew__premier, I'm not finding anything...sorry01:16
premierI was told that If i put a line in /home/premier/.XSession it will do it every boot, but it doesnt01:16
adz21cHi, I have got a firewall and connection sharing set up with Guarddog and Guidedog. All works fine, however when I reboot it stops work, yet as soon as I launch Guarddog and click apply everything works again. What could be causing this?01:17
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niblets-tear-01:19
dettoaltrimenti_niblets- is your ipod connected to your computer? does it not show up in amarok's 'media device' tab?01:19
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nibletsIt is connected, and it is charging, but on the media device tab, I see " configure your media device the click the 'connect' tab to access your media device01:20
niblets"01:20
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dettoaltrimenti_under where it says 'connect, disconnect' and all that, there is a dropdown menu. Is there anything under that menu?01:20
dropslhi there01:21
nibletsit says no device available01:21
nibletsI will unmount the iPod then connect it again01:21
nibletswhat is the unmount command?01:21
dettoaltrimenti_ok- go to settings-- configure amarok, then click on the tab 'media devices'01:21
nibletskk01:22
dettoaltrimenti_you don't need to worry about mounting or unmounting01:22
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nibletsadd device? or autofind?01:22
dettoaltrimenti_try autofind01:22
dropslsuddenly, kpowersave said dbus is not running i should start it. but it is started. kpowersave does not show any options it is also greyed out in my systray :( i dont know how i can resolve this... may somebody help me? (i am using kubuntu 6.10) (also i have some problems with usb devices right now, they dont eject properly (die data gets lost))01:22
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dropsldie = the01:23
dropslsudo /etc/init.d/acpid start  says this: acpid: can't open /proc/acpi/event: Device or resource busy01:24
nibletsany ideas what to do next?01:24
dropslbut "sudo lsof |grep "/proc/acpi/event""   says this: "hald-addo 2104  haldaemon    4r      REG        0,3        0 4026532122 /proc/acpi/event" does it help anyone to identify the problem?01:25
dettoaltrimenti_niblets, did it detect the ipod01:25
nibletsnope01:25
niblets"No new media devices were found. If you feel this is an error, ensure that the DBUS and HAL daemons are running and KDE was built with support for them. You can test this by running "dcop kded mediamanager fullList" in a Konsole window."01:25
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nibletsis what I got01:25
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dettoaltrimenti_dropsl- try ps -e | grep dbus, and kill the processes01:26
dettoaltrimenti_niblets- but your ipod is mounted? try unplugging it then plugging it back in01:26
dropsldettoaltrimenti_: done01:27
nibletsit says do not disconnect,01:27
nibletsdoes it matter? its empty and brand new01:27
dropsldettoaltrimenti_: should i restart it now?01:27
dettoaltrimenti_dropsl- yes01:28
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nibletsdone01:28
nibletsdidnt come up with anything again. Should I konsole mount it?01:28
nibletsactually, hang on01:28
nibletsI'll try a port on the back01:28
dettoaltrimenti_I sent you a message, niblets01:29
me_ok01:29
nibletsdettoaltrimenti_ what you mean?01:29
dropsldettoaltrimenti_: it does not fix the problem :(01:29
dettoaltrimenti_niblets- if you're using konversation, look to the left and click on my name01:29
me_haaheey01:30
nibletsI am using it, but it says my messages are blocked I think01:30
nibletsDid you get mine?01:30
nibletsJust let me register, will take but a momenr01:31
dettoaltrimenti_niblets no- Nickserv register (password) with a / before nickserv01:31
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dropsldettoaltrimenti_: it does still not work01:31
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nibletsI got your message, yes it is connected to the comp, but I dont know where it is mounted, I am a n00b to linux01:32
dettoaltrimenti_zdogde- did you try ctrl alt backspace, and it still doesn't work?01:32
zdogdedettoaltrimenti_: yes01:32
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dettoaltrimenti_niblets- open konqueror, type in /media, if it's mounted it will be in that folder01:32
zdogdealthough knetworkmanager is working... the problem lies in acpid i think. it does not start....01:33
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nyapoBonsoir, ou Bonjour ^^ Joyeux noel01:33
nibletsohk01:34
nyapoquelqu'un pourrait m'apporter son aide?01:34
dettoaltrimenti_!fr01:34
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.01:34
nibletsI got cdrom, hda1 and hdb201:34
dettoaltrimenti_hmmm zdogde... is acpid not running? ps -e | grep acp01:34
nibletsdettoaltrimenti_ I got Cdrom, HDA and HDB01:35
dettoaltrimenti_niblets ok you need to mount the ipod- does it show up on your desktop?01:35
zdogdedettoaltrimenti_: "   17 ?        00:00:00 kacpid" and " 2104 ?        00:00:00 hald-addon-acpi"01:35
nibletsnope, I turned off desktop icons01:35
dettoaltrimenti_acpid is running zdogde01:35
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zdogdedettoaltrimenti_: but why did kpowersave stopped working?01:35
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nibletsdettoaltrimenti_ It isnt, I turned off desktop icons, what is the mount command for it?01:37
nibletsor, how do I mount it/01:37
NyaPOi have a bug with fglrx, there are OK in root mode, but not installer ( fglrxinfo ) in user mode, but i do as the documentation01:37
dettoaltrimenti_niblets look in konqueror- in /mnt, see if it's in there01:37
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nibletssamba and public01:37
nibletsdettoaltrimenti_ samba and public01:37
niblets dettoaltrimenti_ its not in there01:39
carloshello01:40
dettoaltrimenti_niblets look in /dev01:40
carlossome one now about the kubuntu password01:40
nibletsthere is a lot, what would it be called? dettoaltrimenti_01:40
carloswen i try to download the update need one password administrator01:41
carlosand a don't now the password01:41
nibletspassword should be your password for that user01:41
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nibletscarlos password should be your password for that use01:41
carlosi try but no work01:41
carlosi put the passwor is alondra01:42
carlosi can open session with this user: carlos pasword: alondra01:42
carlosbut i can't download updates01:42
nibletscarlos: then I don't know, I havent come across this problem before, so I can't help you, sorry01:43
nibletssomeone else should be able to01:43
dettoaltrimenti_niblets sorry I'm not the best with linux, trying to help- my ipod mounts automatically.... I can't remember where unmounted drives show up, besides the desktop01:43
carlosok01:43
carlosi will find more khelp\01:43
adz21cHi, I have got a firewall and connection sharing set up with Guarddog and Guidedog. All works fine, however when I reboot it stops work, yet as soon as I launch Guarddog and click apply everything works again. What could be causing this?01:44
dettoaltrimenti_carlos how are you downloading the update01:44
nibletsdettoaltrimenti_ s'okay. any help is good. I can't find it, and windows cant access my music, just sucks a bit. I will try restarting session with it plugged in, see if it works01:44
dettoaltrimenti_in the terminal, or adept?01:44
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carlosthere are 60 update packages01:45
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carlosin my kubuntu in the bar01:45
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carloswhen i try to open01:46
nibletsdidnt help D=01:46
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dettoaltrimenti_niblets- look in /dev for ipod01:46
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carlosto update o download the 60 updates files need put the password01:46
nibletskk01:46
nibletsnope01:47
nibletsnot there01:47
dettoaltrimenti_carlos go to the k-menu and go to system----adept and start that.... does your password work to open adept?01:47
carlosAdept Updater01:48
carlosis the program01:48
carlosyessss01:49
carloswork01:49
dettoaltrimenti_carlos ok you should be able to update using that program01:49
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carlostank's01:49
dettoaltrimenti_be sure to click "fetch updates" before you update, carlos01:49
carlosok01:50
nibletsdettoaltrimenti_ thanks for the help, but its not in /media /dev or /mnt01:50
dettoaltrimenti_niblets- unmounted drives are somewhere in the /dev folder... if you can find which is the ipod you can do sudo mount /dev/ipod(or whatever it is) /media/ipod01:50
dettoaltrimenti_niblets it may be called sdc or sdb or usbdrive or something like that01:50
matthiashi, my gnome is not the standard start and login screen, after installing kubuntu, kubuntu is it. how can I set gnome as standard login theme again?01:51
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nibletsohk, will look again01:51
nibletsapart from the name, should there be anything inside that gives it away?01:51
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dettoaltrimenti_niblets not that I see, I'll check around though01:52
soulriderhi01:52
soulriderhas anyone here ever set up a TV ?01:52
nibletsinside "bus" there was "usb" would that be it?01:53
nibletsnvm, it isnt01:54
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nibletsdettoaltrimenti_ Nothing I can find that would be it01:56
dettoaltrimenti_niblets- if you have a windows machine, try installing it in windows and it will reformat the drive, and then try it in linux01:56
dettoaltrimenti_niblets- because kubuntu should automatically recognize it01:57
nibletsso log in on window? then get it workuing,thenb ack to linux to put music on it?01:57
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dettoaltrimenti_yeah01:57
dettoaltrimenti_that's what I did, and it worked with no problems01:57
nibletskk, be back in 2001:57
dettoaltrimenti_maybe it comes set up for mac01:58
_fnordhow do i uninstall cups?02:00
_fnordsudo apt-get.....02:00
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dettoaltrimenti__fnord just use adept02:01
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carloshi i try to install one web camara usb but no work02:02
carloskubuntu is plug an play02:02
dettoaltrimenti_carlos are you spanish02:02
carlosyes02:02
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dettoaltrimenti_!es02:02
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.02:02
carlossi02:02
carlosgracias02:03
dettoaltrimenti_si es mejor por ti... de nada02:03
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soulrideranyone here ?02:10
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hackeron_hey, when I try to apt-get install kdebase-dev I get kdebase-dev: Depends: kdelibs4-dev (>= 4:3.5.3) but it is not going to be installed -- any ideas?02:16
adz21cHi, I have got a firewall and connection sharing set up with Guarddog and Guidedog. All works fine, however when I reboot it stops work, yet as soon as I launch Guarddog and click apply everything works again. What could be causing this?02:17
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adz21cwhen i say it stops working i mean connection sharing02:18
bbthow do i force the removal of a package via dpkg? i got one that just will not remove with adept02:18
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hackeron_adz21c: to share your internet connection, you generally need to things, ipforward=1 in /proc (see sysctl -a), and ipconfig set to ipmasquerading and that's what guarddog sets when you start it02:19
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hackeron_adz21c: s/to/two*02:19
adz21chackeron_: i was under the impression that i shouldn't need to do this each time PC starts, it sets it all up for boot02:20
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|lostbyte|Hi :) Guys..02:22
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hackeron_adz21c: you can make it start on boot - you could for example put ipforward=1 in /etc/sysctl.conf and iptables -A nat -t tcp -j MASQ (not sure about the iptables command, google it) in /etc/rc.local -- or use some method to get guardog started when KDE starts -- ask the guarddog people02:24
adz21chackeron_: no i know that ... i mean i was under the impression that guarddog and guidedog set up all the files to it runs all the appropriate iptables commands02:25
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endo602Good Evening.  Happy Holidays.  How can i turn my user account into root?02:26
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hackeron_adz21c: don't know what to tell you, I personally use shorewall (no fancy gui but relatively easy to work with), I also don't like a gui because you generally need to be logged in for it to do it's magic and it doesn't really do it on boot02:28
brianwis there a cd label anywhere for kubuntu-6.10 ?02:28
brianwI want to tyr my lacie lightscribe software02:29
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adz21chackeron_: u don't need to be logged in for guarddog ... its just executes a load of iptable commands thats it it shouldn't need to run again unless you want to make rule changes .... i was also under the impression though that it would create some scripts to be run at system boot to handle this, but either something else is interfearing or it doesn't02:29
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endo602How do i make it so that my user account has root access?02:31
hackeron_adz21c: there's no standard in linux for where to put those commands to start on boot, maybe they were put in /etc/local.start or /etc/conf.d/local.start or /dev/default/rc.local, etc instead of /etc/rc.local?02:32
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apokryphosendo602: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic02:32
endo602apokryphos, thanks02:33
adz21chackeron_: well there is an /etc/rc.firewall file which seems to contain the rules and /etc/rcS.d/S65guarddog if that makes any sense to u?02:33
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adz21chackeron_: is S65guarddog a service type thing?02:34
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hackeron_adz21c: yeah, link /etc/rcS.d/S65guarddog to every runlevel02:34
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Murrlinhow would I fix a stuck app, without deleting its config file?02:35
brianwI wonder why distro makers do not release cd label images w/ their releases...02:35
hackeron_adz21c: i.e. ln -s /etc/rcS.d/S65guarddog /etc/rc1.d/S65guarddog -- then replace the 1 with 2, then 3.. up to 502:35
adz21chackeron_: i notice under system settings -> services it has guarddog, i assume by setting that to start at boot it puts it on the appropriate run levels?02:36
hackeron_adz21c: yeah, or you can do that :)02:36
adz21chackeron_: oh ok got ya02:36
adz21chackeron_: so does the number in the rc's represent the run level number?02:36
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brianwAny one w/ any decent gimp skill care to make a quick reproduction of this: http://www.thelinuxstore.ca/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=111302:40
brianwheh02:40
hackeron_adz21c: yep02:41
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adz21chackeron_: always wondered what the numbers were bout lol kinda obvious lol02:41
hackeron_adz21c: :)02:42
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adz21chackeron_: cheers for the help02:42
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hackeron_any time02:43
hackeron_ok, ktorrent compiled, I'm off to sleep, night night everyone!02:43
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adz21cg'night02:43
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dwassemhey guys02:47
Search4Lancerhow can I do automatic file uploads at given intervals?02:47
dwassemis this a good place to ask a question? :)02:47
Search4Lancersay... every 10 minutes, for a channel stats file02:47
Xubuntianguys, i have a little problem.. I have to configure my daddy's new printer for tomorrow, but i need to update the system in order to make it work. However, when i plugged the network card in the PCMCIA nothing happened..02:48
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Xubuntianin my laptop instead, as soon as i plug it in, it start working immediatly02:48
dwassemwhats the XGL channel?, got a question02:49
lupine_85#ubuntu-xgl02:50
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dwassemah got it #ubuntu-xgl02:50
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ultrakillerciao a tutti02:56
lupine_85ciao02:57
lupine_85!it02:57
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!02:57
ultrakillerexcuse me02:58
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Thehound666being a fan of the Bit Torrent protocol, I was curious as to how you guys keep so many people seeding on the distro downloads when you don't track ratio03:08
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lupine_85Thehound666: we're all altruistic :op03:09
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max_Hi, I have a problem. I restarted my computer and after i rebooted i dont have sound anymore. Can someone help?03:09
Thehound666I guess so. for the record, I did my first .iso that way and seeded it 1:103:10
Thehound666<--doesn't like leechers, thus wouldn't be one03:10
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makuseruHi, I have a problem. I restarted my computer and after i rebooted i dont have sound anymore. Can someone help?03:13
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Thehound666did the live CD and the initial install do ok for sound?03:16
Search4Lancerhow can I do automatic file uploads at given intervals?03:17
lupine_85Search4Lancer: scp or sftp + cron ?03:17
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lupine_85(or + sleep of course :) )03:18
nibletsworked on windows, dettoaltrimenti_03:18
Thehound666try the obvious maybe. Try system settings->Sound system, then the hardware tab.03:18
Search4Lancerlupine_85: I have no idea what you just said ;-) it's for a channel stats page, the stats program is cronning every 10 minutes, and outputs to a file in a folder on my desktop... I'd like something to automatically upload that every 10 minutes03:19
Thehound666make sure it's set to autodetect03:19
makuseruit is03:19
Captain_Redbeardmakuseru: type: groups yourusername03:19
Captain_Redbeardmakuseru: and check if you are in a group called "audio"03:19
makuseruyes03:20
makuseruit just stopped working03:20
lupine_85Search4Lancer: so you've already got the cronjob03:20
Captain_Redbeardmakuseru: so are you?03:20
makuserui was palying a video and it stopped03:20
lupine_85change it to execute a script that looks a little bit like...03:20
makuserui said yes03:20
Search4Lancerlupine_85: for running the stats program, yes03:20
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lupine_85#!/bin/sh \n do_that_stats_program \n sftp -b - < "commands_to_be_fed_to_sftp" \n exit 003:21
lupine_85\n == newline03:21
Search4Lancernow you've just confused the heck out of me03:22
lupine_85sftp lets you upload stuff via. ssh; -b is batch mode;  "commands_to_be_fed_to_sftp" will be something like "cd somewhere; put file"03:22
nibletsanyone know how to get iPod working with Amarok?03:22
lupine_85Search4Lancer: I'm not entirely sure how to make it any simpler03:22
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Captain_Redbeardniblets: what is it that doesn't work?03:23
nibletsdoesn't find the iPod03:23
nibletsthe comp doesnt03:23
Search4Lancerlet's say the ftp username is username, and the password is password, and the server is ftp.4lancer.net, and the target file is /public_html/stats/index.html ..... what would that look like?03:23
Captain_Redbeardniblets: settings -> configure -> media devices03:23
nibletsdone that03:23
nibletscouldnt find it03:23
lupine_85for a start, you wouldn't use password authentication for a cronjob. that would be silly03:23
Thehound666they do that to all (K)ubuntu newbies I think(know first hand) but they do get things done, I thought my mouse issue today would stump them as alot of forums seemed to have no answers03:23
nibletsI don;t know the mount point03:23
Thehound666solved it in 10 minutes03:23
Captain_Redbeardniblets: does it automount when you plug it in?03:23
Search4Lancerwell then we wouldn't be able to connect to the server03:24
nibletsnope03:24
lupine_85Use public-key authentication instead; then you don't need to feed it a username or password03:24
lupine_85if you don't, then while the cronjob is running your password will be visible to everyone using the client PC...03:24
Captain_Redbeardniblets: hrmz... and if you try to mount it manually?03:24
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nibletsI dont know how03:24
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Search4LancerI'm the only one that uses this laptop... nobody else is allowed.... it's heavily protected ;-)03:25
Captain_Redbeardniblets: type: sudo mount03:25
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Captain_Redbeardniblets: and paste me  the output in a private query03:25
makuseruwell, i restarted and my sound is fine now03:25
nibletsthere is about 12 lines03:25
Captain_Redbeardniblets: that's why you should paste it to me in a private query ;)03:26
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makuseru!pastebin | niblets\03:26
ubotuniblets\: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)03:26
makuseru!pastebin | niblets03:26
ubotuniblets: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)03:26
nibletsI cant03:26
nibletsnot registered03:26
lupine_85Search4Lancer: then you'd put the username & password separated by newlines at the start of -b. I think.03:27
makuseru!pastebin | niblets03:27
nibletsohk ohk03:27
lupine_85I'v enever used password-based authentication with sftp so I'm not sure if that'd work03:27
nibletsI get it03:27
Captain_Redbeardniblets: well either use a pastebin or query it to me...03:27
nibletshang on, christmas meal, will paste it and then come on again later.03:27
Captain_Redbeardniblets: I will probably be off by then.. but good luck03:28
nibletscheers03:28
nibletshttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38728/03:29
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makuseruis there anyway to add free space on a drive to another partition03:29
Captain_Redbeardmakuseru: various partition managers....03:29
lupine_85makuseru: ntfsresize, ext2resize, etc...03:29
lupine_85quite a delicate operation though03:29
Captain_Redbeardmakuseru: if you want something with a GUI there is one called portos03:30
makuseruwould i be able to keep my root partition? or would i have to wipe it clean03:30
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trikianyone here get bluetooth working ?03:31
trikii can copy from my phone to my laptop, but no the other way around ?03:31
_fnordmakuseru: livecd + gparted03:31
makuserufnord: i dont want to get rid of anything, im just trying to merge them03:32
flaccid__fnord: qtparted03:32
makuserufnord: because i dont want to loose all my music and settings03:32
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triki!bluetooth03:33
ubotuFor instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup03:33
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xenolplz can someone tell me how cna i change icon of single file?03:34
Thehound666The Kubuntu manual partition creator lets you size all the partitions manually and resize them while keeping your data. I had Partition Magic on standby to resize them, but it turned out I never needed it03:34
Captain_RedbeardHmm... does anyone here have experience with the grub conf file? I want to get rid of the white frame that surrounds the options in the grub menu on boot...03:34
karmikazexenol: right click the icon, do properties, then click the icon in properties to change it03:35
Thehound666never played with grub yet.03:35
Thehound666I used NTLoader for my dual boot because I know what I was doing with Windows03:36
Thehound666:)03:36
flaccid_grub manual, #grub, google03:36
flaccid_all you need03:36
Captain_Redbeardflaccid_: tried it all03:36
xenolkarmikaze ty03:37
Captain_Redbeardflaccid_: not sure it's even possible without frambuffer support03:37
Thehound666don't need to play with it myself, seems like Redbeard wants to eliminate a cosmetic annoyance03:37
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flaccid_i think it is. but yeah probably using framebuffer03:37
Captain_Redbeardflaccid_: bah so I guess I'm in for a "pimp my grub" session of some good 5 hours now then :p03:38
prakwhen i opened wireless assistant wireless lan manager in kubuntu, it gives me an error message saying "su returned with an error"03:38
prakdoes anyone know if that problem can be fixed by reinstalling that program?03:39
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xenolkarmikaze and how can i change target of folder?03:39
karmikazetarget?03:39
karmikazeyou mean where it links to?03:40
xenolyeah03:40
karmikazesomething on your desktop?03:40
xenoly03:40
flaccid_Captain_Redbeard: heheh sounds bout right03:41
karmikazewell for a desktop icon id just drag the right one onto the desktop03:41
karmikazethere is a command to make a link03:41
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karmikazeln -s /whateverdir/youwant /home/yourusername/Desktop03:41
karmikazethatll make a new link03:41
xenolkarmikaze thx i just now got a perfect idea :P03:41
karmikazeok03:41
karmikazeheh03:41
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karmikazemmm corona03:44
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xenolkarmiakze can u post screen of ur desktop (ofc if u can)03:44
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DyF|heliopolixI've taken the plunge and am attempting to become more familiar with Linux, specifically Kubuntu. I figure this is as good a place as any to get flamed properly so i can move past my n00b status and actually learn some stuff.03:45
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flaccid_sweet as heliopolix03:46
Captain_Redbeardhmm further on then... anyone knowing anything useful about grub2? if it's usable and so forth...03:47
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xenolgrub2?03:47
flaccid_yeah grub is now legacy03:48
prakdoes anyone encounter an error with using sudo before?03:48
flaccid_but yeah i don't know how stable grub2 is03:48
heliopolixanyways, what Im attempting to do is get this belkin usb key to work with the install of dapper drake im running. I found a fairly detailed explanation, but all the commands mean jack shit to me. anyone willing to help me out03:48
Captain_Redbeardflaccid_: do you have any experience with it?03:48
flaccid_heliopolix: learn the commands :)03:48
flaccid_Captain_Redbeard: none sorry03:48
flaccid_but i'd try it in your situation03:48
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xenolso grub is usable only it  can be unstable?03:48
flaccid_heliopolix: if its a usb drive (mass storage), kubuntu supports natively03:49
Captain_Redbeardflaccid_: ofc! :D i'm on a spree here... so I guess I will have to fuck my system up before I'm done ;) it seems fairly stable though... version 1.9503:49
flaccid_xenol: no grub2 might be unstable, grub(1) should be pretty damn stable03:49
heliopolixer, forgot to be more specific. usb wireless key, for networking03:49
heliopolixand i suppose i need to find a channel more on my level. basic commands escape me at this point03:50
xenolany ETA when GRUB2 will be released?03:50
flaccid_heliopolix: on you mean wireless usb adaptor. belkin are bad for that, particularly on linux. read the howtos03:50
flaccid_heliopolix: why do basic commands escape you? we can help to make you understand and execute the commands03:50
Captain_Redbeardxenol: the website says november - but I highly doubt it ;))03:50
Captain_Redbeardhttp://grub.enbug.org/03:51
xenolnovember 2007?03:51
xenolor 200603:51
Search4Lanceralright, I tried this (after perusing the wget manual) and in the console it appears to work, but when I try to access the file online, it's still an old version:03:51
Search4Lancerwget --post-file /home/redphoenix/Desktop/ircstat/index.html ftp://username:password@ftp.4lancer.net/public_html/stats/index.html03:51
xenolwell 2006 is impossible :D03:51
Captain_Redbeardexactly ;) it does, however, state 06...03:52
Captain_RedbeardHmm03:52
Captain_Redbeardit supports multiboot... thus you can boot grub2 from grub legacy just to try it... awesome03:52
heliopolixheh, i've sort of figured out how to use sudo to try to run things as the local admin. I've been trying to follow the directions here : http://opensource.bureau-cornavin.com/belkin/index.html, but i'm missing something03:52
flaccid_that sounds good cap'n03:53
heliopolixi downloaded the drivers, and have been trying to get them to compile, but cant get the syntax right03:54
flaccid_heliopolix: are you using your password and not the root password when doing sudo command03:54
flaccid_heliopolix: pastebin the error03:54
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heliopolixin the Konsole, I use the sudo -s command, and input the password, and the promt changes to 'root@' so i think im doing it right03:55
towynchow do i get rid off kmenu button and the panel bar that displays the kmenu button03:56
towyncand replace it with mac style tool bar at bottom of screen03:56
towynci know kxdocker doesn't work for me, so i tried kooldock, how do i make comp start with kooldock and no normal bottom panel03:57
flaccid_heliopolix: don't use -s03:57
flaccid_for eg. sudo updatedb03:57
prakdoes anyone encounter an error with using su before?03:58
prakdoes anyone encounter an error with using su or sudo before?03:58
flaccid_towync: try asking in #kde03:58
flaccid_prak nope why03:58
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towyncis that a channel or do u need ubuntu before it03:59
prakflaccid_, su is giving me an error saying that something is wrong with sudoer03:59
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flaccid_its a channel towync03:59
Search4Lanceranybody, I'm having wget problems...04:00
flaccid_prak: what is the error04:00
towyncby the way how do i make my own wallpaper and stuff, i don't like other peoples that i find online =)04:00
thoreauputic!sudo | prak04:00
ubotuprak: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.04:00
towyncflaccid_ do you need #ubuntu before typing kde?04:00
flaccid_!gimp > towync04:00
flaccid_towync: no04:00
towync!gimp | towync04:00
ubotutowync: An advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.04:00
prakflaccid_, for example, when i typed "sudo apt-get update", terminal gives me "sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers04:00
praknear line 004:00
towyncughhhh more tutorials to read... lol04:00
thoreauputicprak: have you edited /etc/sudoers?04:00
flaccid_prak: pastebin your /etc/sudoers04:00
_fnordis there a all in one theme program,like windowblinds?04:01
Captain_Redbeard http://grub.enbug.org/gfxterm04:01
Captain_RedbeardW000t!!04:01
_fnordCaptain_Redbeard: is that for me?04:01
prakthoreauputic: i haven't edited /etc/sudoers to my knowledge04:01
flaccid_w0a ruby Captain_Redbeard interesting04:02
_fnordpostbin it anyways,thats whats causeing the error04:02
towyncdoes kxdocker work with edgy?04:02
Captain_Redbeardlooks really sweet to be honest...04:02
flaccid_towync: yep04:02
thoreauputicprak: pastebin it as flaccid_ suggests04:02
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prakthoreauputic: how do i pastebin my /etc/sudoers?04:02
thoreauputic!paste04:02
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:02
prakthoreauputic: is there another site?04:02
Captain_Redbeardthe documentation on grub2 is very sporadical though04:02
_fnordyou can also use #flood04:03
thoreauputicprak: there are lots of pastebin sites - we normally use that one04:03
flaccid_towync: although i'm on edgy and i'm didn't load just then when i tried04:03
prakthoreauputic: sudoers file is empty04:03
thoreauputicprak: :(04:03
prakthoreauputic: i'm not sure what caused it04:03
_fnordlol that might have something to do with  me thinks...04:04
thoreauputicprak: are you certain that it is empty?04:04
prakit is empty04:04
prakthoreauputic04:04
_fnordwierd04:05
thoreauputicprak:  you have a ctach 22 then - you can't edit it without sudo or root rights - you will have to use the recovery mode to get a root prompt04:05
thoreauputic*catch 2204:05
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prakok04:05
prakthoreauputic: and then edit that file?04:05
flaccid_prak: reinstall sudo package04:05
thoreauputicprak: use "visudo" to edit it04:05
thoreauputicah yes -= flaccid's idea is way easier04:06
towyncflaccid_ so did kxdocker work on ur edgy?04:06
heliopolixthe problem occurs when i try to run the 'make' command. the error is "bash: make: command not found"04:06
prakflaccid_, do i reinstall sudo package in recovery mode?04:06
flaccid_towync: no but it could be my problem04:06
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_fnordthoreauputic: whats your name mean>?04:06
flaccid_prak: did you ever set a root password?04:06
towyncflaccid_ cool, did u tell me to go to kde channel earlier =)04:06
thoreauputicprak: so boot to recovey/rescue . apt-get install sudo04:06
thoreauputic!sudo04:06
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.04:06
flaccid_towync: probably04:06
thoreauputicbah04:06
towyncflaccid_ someone did, and now someone in kde channel refers me back here lol04:06
thoreauputic!info sudo04:06
ubotusudo: Provide limited super user privileges to specific users. In component main, is important. Version 1.6.8p12-4ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 161 kB, installed size 396 kB04:06
thoreauputicOK it has its own package04:07
towync!gentoo04:07
ubotuOther !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)04:07
prakthoreauptic, ok04:07
flaccid_towync: well you should be able to disable the panel regardless of distro..04:07
thoreauputicprak: wait04:07
towyncwhat's the relationship between debian and kde, i know kde uses debian04:07
flaccid_towync: no real relationship04:07
towyncflaccid_ cool04:07
thoreauputictoo late, I wanted to see if it was already installed...04:07
_fnordkde is based on deb i think04:07
flaccid__fnord: negative04:08
trikihuh04:08
trikidebian is debian04:08
towyncflaccid_ i guess my real question is what's debian =)04:08
trikikde is and gnome and desktop guis04:08
Search4Lancerguess it doesn't hurt to ask again.... does anybody know how to do regularly scheduled FTP uploads, or a program that does it?04:08
_fnordwas it suse that im thinking of?04:08
flaccid_debian is a linux system04:08
trikidebian is a distro04:08
flaccid_and also a distro04:08
flaccid_"the debian system" they call it04:08
thoreauputicSearch4Lancer: make a cron job to do it?04:08
flaccid_brb04:08
trikilike gentoo, fedora core, slackware and so on04:08
towyncso kubuntu is kde that's debian, and ubuntu is genome that's rpb?04:09
trikikubuntu is ubuntu with kde04:09
trikiinstead of ubuntu with gnome04:09
towyncand kde is always deb?04:09
Search4Lancerthoreauputic: I've been trying, but I can't get the wget command to work right. I mean, it looks like it works correctly in the console, but the new file never shows up on the server04:09
trikixubuntu uses a lighter desktop environment04:09
towyncand gnome is always rpm or something04:09
towyncthere's two right, deb and somtehing else04:09
trikisame backend just different interface04:09
thoreauputicSearch4Lancer: wget is really a download tool - use ftp or lftp04:09
towync!backend04:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about backend - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:09
towync!frontend04:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about frontend - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:10
towyncoops04:10
triki!gui04:10
ubotuThe graphical user interface (GUI) in Ubuntu is composed of many elements, including the !X server, a window manager, and a desktop environment such as !GNOME or !KDE (which themselves use the !GTK and !Qt toolkits respectively)04:10
towyncwhat's a backend and frontend04:10
triki!de04:10
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de04:10
triki!kde04:10
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE04:10
towync!gnome04:10
ubotugnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.04:10
towync!deb04:10
ubotudeb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)04:10
towyncah package format04:10
towyncwhat's the other one besides deb04:10
trikiubuntu is based on debian also04:10
trikihense the use of the deb packages04:11
towyncthere's something equivalent to deb right04:11
lupine_85rpm04:11
Search4Lancerthoreauputic: okay... I've never used ftp from command line before... how do I do it and how would I do it as a cronjob?04:11
lupine_85lots of other formats as well04:11
towynccool04:11
trikirpm is a redhat thing04:11
towyncic04:11
lupine_85deb > rpm04:11
towynccool04:11
trikilike yum is for fedora04:11
leviatanhi everyone I need hel with my grub, I've installe kubuntu in my hd1 but in my hd0 I had ubuntu with genome but now when my pc stars an error appears: problem with so04:11
towyncah ha, so that's what yum is lol04:11
trikiswaret for slack04:11
leviatansomeone could help me?04:11
towyncwhat's a backend04:11
leviatanplz?04:11
towyncwe'll try leviatan =)04:12
towyncwhat's ur question04:12
thoreauputicSearch4Lancer: heh - that's a whole howto - but basically , say lftp user@host , log in do your stuff - get to download, "put" to upload04:12
towynci'm a new linux user myself, but i'm sure other people can help04:12
flaccid_towync: kde is available in many package formats as well as source04:12
trikiwhat i meant by backend, was the same services were running on ubuntu, kubuntu, just diffnerent user interfaces04:12
thoreauputicSearch4Lancer: you need to read about ftp a bit I think04:12
flaccid_linux and unix04:12
towyncflaccid_ cool thx =)04:13
Search4Lancerbah... where's the fun in that? :-D04:13
thoreauputicSearch4Lancer: I suggest lftp - it is a better prog than straight ftp04:13
towynctriki thx04:13
trikinp04:13
unix_infidelSearch4Lancer: you need cli ftp?04:13
flaccid_kubuntu just have different desktop environments and default applications/packages from the ubuntu repos04:13
flaccid_np04:13
Search4Lancerunix_infidel: say what now?04:13
thoreauputicSearch4Lancer: have a look at the manual - man lftp ( you will probably need to install it)04:13
flaccid_^^ kubuntu and ubuntu  jusst have..04:13
thoreauputic!info lftp04:13
ubotulftp: Sophisticated command-line FTP/HTTP client programs. In component main, is optional. Version 3.5.0-1 (edgy), package size 349 kB, installed size 1364 kB04:13
towyncoo, do u guys know a better place than kde-look to look for great wall papers? i don't like the hundreds that i've seen so far, and don't really wanna read a whole gimp tutorial to make my own lol04:13
trikiwww.devianart.com04:14
karmikazetowync: deviantart.com04:14
unix_infidelSearch4Lancer: cli ftp means you'd use it within Konsole, you can also use a GUI ftp client like filezilla, smartftp, cuteftp etc etc04:14
trikiwww.deviantart.com04:14
thoreauputicSearch4Lancer: do you have ssh access?  scp is much eaaierfor this kind of thing04:14
flaccid_devianart ist good04:14
towynckarmikaze thx so much =)04:14
karmikazeits got some stuff04:14
unix_infidelSearch4Lancer: konqueror can also do ftp similar to windows explorer.04:14
towynckarmikaze cool, i'm checking it out04:14
towyncthx triki too =)04:14
Search4Lancerunix_infidel: what I need is automated uploads every 10 minutes04:14
leviatanok thanks my question y what can I do for fix that error, because I have to insert the cd live04:14
karmikazeits as hit or miss as kdelook anyway04:14
thoreauputicunix_infidel: he wants to have regi=ular uploads ( cron)04:14
unix_infidelif you are looking to communicate b/w a windows box and a linux box, winscp is a good windows client and is much easier connectivity.04:14
thoreauputic*regular04:14
leviatanto enter to the grub menu04:15
unix_infidelSearch4Lancer: then wouldnt make sense to have a permanent network socket established?04:15
unix_infidelusing samba or NFS?04:15
towync!grub04:15
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto04:15
Search4Lancerif I had the slightest idea what that was, maybe04:15
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thoreauputicunix_infidel: umm - nfs or samba over the Net? Not a Good Thing (tm)04:15
unix_infidelthoreauputic: i didnt know that this was internet connectivity.04:16
thoreauputicSearch4Lancer: is this a local LAN thing or a server "out there" ?04:16
towyncleviatan what was ur question, i scrolled up a little, but i only saw u stating something about inserting live cd04:16
Search4Lancerthoreauputic: "out there"04:16
unix_infidelSearch4Lancer: what are you trying to sync up exactly?04:16
thoreauputicSearch4Lancer: ssh/scp is a better idea if the server supports it04:16
unix_infidelmaybe rsync is for you?04:17
lupine_85sftp -b ftw, but never mind :)04:17
Search4Lancerunix_infidel: channel stats - see http://stats.4lancer.net04:17
thoreauputiclupine_85: yes, or sftp - but scp is fine too04:17
towyncthat stuff is deviant alright lol04:17
trikifilezilla + sftp04:18
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leviatanthe problem is that I had ubuntu in my hd0 and I have installed kubuntu in my hd1 but there is a problem with the grub that I need to insert the live cd to star a operative system (ubuntu, kubuntu or windows)04:18
trikithat cool stuff too !!!04:18
trikisshfs04:18
thoreauputictriki: he wants to do it automatically every ten minutes04:19
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ubuntu!grub04:19
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto04:19
trikithoreauputic: ?? what's going on ?04:19
ubuntu!botsnack04:19
ubotuYum!04:19
nibletsCaptain_Redbeard did you get a chance to look at the pastebin?04:19
thoreauputictriki: never mind - go back to sleep :)04:20
trikisure04:20
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lupine_85Search4Lancer: any reason why the stats can't be generated on the server...?04:20
Search4Lancerlupine_85: I'd love to, but I don't have that kind of access, to run the bot and the stats program on the server04:21
Captain_Redbeardniblets: nope sorry04:21
Search4Lancerit's not mine ;-)04:21
nibletsCould you still now?04:21
lupine_85ah :)04:21
lupine_85well, you've been given > 4 solutions now, I think...04:21
ubuntuhow can i install grub 2?04:21
Search4Lancernone of which I know how to implement :-)04:21
thoreauputicSearch4Lancer: does the server run ssh ?04:21
lupine_85read, wo/man! :p04:22
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nibletsCould you still now? Captain_Redbeard04:22
towyncleviatan i've never really tried too much duel booting before, so this might not be that helpful, but did u accidentally set ur comp to only boot from cd drive?04:22
Search4Lancerpoeticputic: not that I know of04:22
Captain_Redbeardniblets: I'm a bit busy messing with grub2 and it's gfx options but I can give it a shot04:22
thoreauputicSearch4Lancer: from waht you have said, I think you need to do some reading about this before you implement it :)04:22
towyncleviatan i think u can check that by pressing f2 while ur comp restarts, if i'm wrong somebody correct me thx =)04:22
nibletshttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38728/ any help would be great, whatever you can do04:23
ubuntuhow can i install grub 2?04:23
lupine_85nah, no ssh04:23
thoreauputicafk04:23
Captain_Redbeardubuntu: If you don't know, you shouldn't do it probably ;)04:23
lupine_85ftp, which is not ideal for this sort of thing04:23
Search4Lancermy neck hurts from all this04:23
ubuntuCaptin_Redbeard: thats stupid04:23
trikiCaptain_Redbeard: gay answer04:23
Captain_Redbeardniblets: connect your iPod and type: sudo mount /dev/sda104:23
lupine_85!grub204:24
ubotugrub2: The next generation of GNU GRUB [EXPERIMENTAL] . In component universe, is extra. Version 1.94-3 (edgy), package size 293 kB, installed size 788 kB (Only available for any-i386 any-powerpc any-amd64)04:24
lupine_85well, it's there04:24
ubuntuthank you lupine04:24
lupine_85so I'd imagine you install it and then read the manual04:24
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Captain_Redbeardtriki: well would you prefer me helping someone out messing their system up with highly unstable software that wont change anything for them anyway?04:24
nibletsCaptain_Redbeard doing now04:24
leviatantowync thx04:24
trikipoint them in the direction of some docs, where there are plenty of04:24
lupine_85ho hum, you cant feed ftp script files?04:25
lupine_85let's see...04:25
nibletsCaptain_Redbeard "mount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"04:25
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Captain_Redbeardtriki: well then you could maybe use your time pointing people to what you find appropriate than filling the channel with prepubertal accusations like things being "gay" when they dont match your expectations04:26
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Captain_Redbeardniblets: hmm let me see if I can find some docs for you mate04:26
lupine_85Search4Lancer: but read the manpage for lftp. It seems to do everything you want04:26
lupine_85even has it's own scheduler, it seems04:26
Search4Lanceroh joy04:26
towyncleviatan np, keep asking if that didn't work out04:26
Search4Lancerwhere's it at?04:26
lupine_85"man lftp"04:26
danny500does anyone know were I can get Kareoke Downloads?04:27
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danny500#Karaoke04:27
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Captain_Redbeardniblets: oh sorry I'm being retarded btw... create a directory where to mount it and try sudo mount /dev/sda1 /path/to/mountpoint04:27
leviatanthe problem Is that my english is not so good jeje but in -es chanel is someone helping me thanks XD04:27
nibletsCaptain_Redbeard just a random folder somewhere?04:28
towyncleviatan i guessed u didn't speak english =) but hopefully we can still help04:28
Captain_Redbeardniblets: preferably /media/ipod or something similar04:28
nibletsohk, where? in my home folder, or ?04:28
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leviatanthanks XD04:29
Captain_Redbeardniblets: I found you this: http://www.ubuntux.org/how-to-use-an-ipod-with-ubuntu guide explaining how to use an ipod with some application named gtkpod, it can easily be switched for amarok04:29
Captain_Redbeardniblets: mkdir /media/ipod04:29
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trikiyour  ipod doesn't auto mount ?04:30
nibletsNope it doesnt04:30
nibletsmade the folder04:30
trikiweird mine does04:30
towynctriki my ipod shuffle "auto mounts"04:30
nibletsI know it is weird, and I am trying my best to fix it04:30
towynctriki quoted cuz i don't know what auto mount really means but i can open folder right when i plug ipod shuffle in04:31
nibletsWith the help of Captain Redbeard04:31
trikiahhh ok04:31
trikione sec i'll look for a tut on it04:31
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nibletsits mounted04:31
nibletslets see if it works04:32
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nibletsshould I be able to access it from Amarok now Captain_Redbeard?04:32
Captain_Redbeardyup yup04:32
nibletsWait, it didnt mount. youre command line was wrong, apparently Captain_Redbeard04:33
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Captain_Redbeardniblets: what did it return then?04:33
Captain_Redbeardniblets: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/ipod04:34
nibletsIt said that you didnt specify what sort of mount it was04:34
Captain_Redbeardniblets: erf...04:34
nibletsIll pastebin ya04:34
Captain_Redbeardniblets: type: lsusb04:34
Captain_Redbeardniblets: does it detect your ipod?04:34
nibletson command line?04:35
Captain_Redbeardyah04:35
nibletsit finds apple computer, inc, which I assume is the ipod04:35
niblets"Bus 002 Device 003: ID 05ac:1260 Apple Computer, Inc."04:35
_fnordmine just pops up as ipod04:36
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Captain_Redbeardniblets: I'm really sorry mate but I will have to head off to bed... it's 04:36 here and I'm falling asleep... all I can do is direct you to www.google.com04:37
nibletsohk, sweet as04:37
nibletshttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38730/04:37
nibletsthats the result of the mounting attempt04:37
Search4Lancerokay.... is it possible to do an upload via lftp in a single command line? such as "lftp -u thisfreakinfile thisfreakinserver" and it does it and then closes04:38
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lupine_85Search4Lancer: no idea.04:39
lupine_85anyway, good luck with it. I'm off to bed04:39
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faked_is there ever going to be higher versions of flash than 7? because like i'll be sittin' around bored and get on addictinggames but i can't play anything because flash doesn't work for half the stuff04:53
faked_!flash04:54
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:54
faked_is there anything useful in there?04:54
notechif kubuntu doesn't have it, i believe macromedia.org has flash 9 tar.gz. not sure if it's still beta.04:57
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notechnope, wrong site.05:01
notechhttp://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash05:01
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ubuntu!grub205:04
ubotugrub2: The next generation of GNU GRUB [EXPERIMENTAL] . In component universe, is extra. Version 1.94-3 (edgy), package size 293 kB, installed size 788 kB (Only available for any-i386 any-powerpc any-amd64)05:04
ubuntu!windows05:04
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents05:04
zach_hey, anyone, do you know of a theme that I can download that imitates Mac OSX?05:05
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ubuntuemerald has good osx themes05:05
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towynchi how do i get my kmenu/panel bar back05:05
towynci clicked hide it and now i can't turn it back on lol05:06
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ubuntuyou should have a arrow in the righthand corner of your screen05:06
ubuntuwherever your pannel was (top or botom)05:06
towyncmy panel was on bottom05:07
ubuntuthen bottom right05:07
ubuntuthere should be a grey box with an arrow in it05:07
zach_ubuntu, could you give me a link to this emerald?05:07
ubuntuzach: do you use beryl?05:07
zach_I actually have no idea what that is, I just downloaded kubuntu today, I'm just now playing w/ it05:08
ubuntuoh05:08
towyncubuntu thx i think it worked, i never saw the grey box but the thing came back =)05:08
ubuntuhave you seen video where people have theor desktop as a 3D cube?05:08
zach_no, not really, sorry05:08
towynci so want beryl05:08
towyncberyl doesn't like me lol =)05:09
zach_I'm a lil bit of a noob here05:09
towyncso am i haha05:09
ubuntuare you Edgy?05:09
zach_ya05:09
towyncme too05:09
ubuntuthen beryl is a snap to get going05:09
ubuntuyou want me to help you?05:09
zach_I figured edgy would be better being newer I guess05:09
zach_sure thing, that would be awesome, thanks05:09
ubuntupastebin me you xorg.conf05:10
ubuntuyour*05:10
towyncme?05:10
towyncdo u want my xorg.conf05:10
towync!paste05:10
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)05:10
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towyncubuntu i'll just paste mine for u in case u wanna look at it =)05:10
towyncubuntu not that u need to lol =)05:10
ubuntudo you want me to help you get beryl going?05:10
towyncubuntu of course =)05:11
ubuntuthen go for it05:11
towyncubuntu most definately =)05:11
zach_so do I just type #ubuntu in the text spot then?05:11
towyncubuntu here u go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38734/ =)05:12
towync!paste | zach_05:12
ubotuzach_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)05:12
towynczach_ just press the link there http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org05:12
ubuntutowync: tell zach_ where his xorg is and how to paste it05:12
towynck05:12
ubuntuill brb to help you both05:12
towyncso zach_, to paste ur xorg.conf05:13
towyncfirst open up ur konsole05:13
towyncthen in konsole, type sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:13
towyncthen type whatever ur password is to open kate05:13
towyncthen press ctrl-a, to select all05:13
towyncthen go to edit then copy05:13
towyncthen press the link at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org05:13
towyncand paste it into the dialog box there, enter ur name, and press paste05:13
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towyncand the paste the link of the resulting webpage here so ubuntu can see it05:14
towynci did it for mine u can see mine at05:14
towynchttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38734/05:14
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ubuntuim looking at both of yours now05:14
towynche pasted his already?05:14
ubuntuno,05:15
ubuntumy bad05:15
ubuntui thought that was him05:15
ubuntuits you05:15
towynco i just entered mine twice05:15
towyncsorry05:15
towyncyeah it's the same05:15
ubuntuno prob05:15
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zach_ok, ya, I have no clue what I'm doing really, I've never coded before or anything, sorry05:15
towyncall you have to do is type in konsole: sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:16
towyncno coding at all =)05:16
zach_I have the etc11org.conf - Kate open, and there's nothing there05:16
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towyncno u have to type the slashes05:17
towyncinstead of etc11org.conf05:17
towyncu have to type:           sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:17
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towyncif u did that and u still have nothing, then u don't have xorg.conf05:17
towynci'm not sure where xorg.conf came from in the first place, prolly when i installed my nvidiea driver but i can be totally off for that lol05:18
zach_ya, I did it again and that konsole is saying failed to open device now05:18
ubuntuyou cant not have xorg05:18
ubuntuyou wouldnt be running without it05:19
towynco yeah05:19
ubuntuzach_: do sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:19
towynci should know cuz when i was messing around with wacom in xorg.conf, i couldn't get gui anymore until i found out i needed to comment out some other part of xorg.conf lol05:19
zach_ok, it opened this time05:20
towyncor vim instead of nano, whichever works, i have to google everytime for what the "save" shortcut keys are for each text editor lol05:20
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ubuntutowync: make a backup of you xorg then put http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38735/ that as you xorg and restart (make sure you backup incase it dosnt work)05:20
ubuntutowync: you just do ctrl+x to exit then it automatically askes if you want to save changes05:21
zach_it says new file at the bottom w/ some shortcuts05:21
ubuntupaste the command your doing05:22
ubuntujust teh one line05:22
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zach_the command that I'm doing is what then?05:23
prakwhat is the command in recovery mode to edit sudoer file?05:23
zach_there is nothing in it at all, and I need to copy all of nothing it would seem05:24
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zach_o well, guys, its ok, I can live w/o that theme until I understand what is going on I guess05:25
zach_when I think I know what I'm doing I'll come back to you I guess05:26
ubuntuzach_: im usually always in this channel as makuseru, feel free to ask me to help you again05:26
zach_cool, thanks a lot really05:27
zach_sorry I suck at this...05:27
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ubuntutowync: you still in here?05:28
zach_btw, towync and ubuntu, I'll probably be on this channel a bit too, idk yet if there is a way to save user names or whatever, but feel free to save mine05:28
zach_it said they were idle for like 6 min.05:29
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ubuntutowync: i need to restart, but just hang in there and ill be back to help you05:29
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prakdoes anyone know what's the command to edit sudoer in recovery mode?05:33
unix_infidelvisudo05:34
unix_infidelas root05:34
unix_infidelor sudo visudo05:34
unix_infidelanyone know of a linux port of zfs without fuse05:36
unix_infidelor any benchmarks with zfs port using a fuse compared to native zfs?05:37
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pc22 can anyone recommend a distance learning org?05:42
MasterEvilAceAnyone have a Dell Inspiron laptop, and have monitor out working?05:44
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prakdoes anyone know about the dialing directory of minicom?05:45
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unix_infidelanyone have a latitude d420 working with ubuntu?05:59
NDPowerBookIs that the one with an external optical drive?06:00
NDPowerBookCause if so, yes06:00
NDPowerBookOh wait I just googled it, its not the one I have06:01
NDPowerBookBut I've never heard of anyone having issues with Dell laptops and linux06:01
unix_infidelits the newer dell ultraportable.06:01
prakdoes anyone know about the dialing directory of minicom?06:02
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seven11how can i find the fastest server for apt-get update06:05
seven11netselect?06:05
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prakdoes anyone know about the dialing directory of minicom?06:12
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tony__hello everyone and MERRY XMAS :)06:14
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tony__i have external harddrive connected using USB. each time , i would connect my hd to linux, it used to show an icon on my desktop. now , it shows nothing and i have no access to that Drive.. why . and how i can connct to it ?06:17
tony__!USB06:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about USB - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:17
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T3hWiz0rdwhat group does a user need to be a part of in order to mount/umount?06:23
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thoreauputicT3hWiz0rd: wrong question. Depends on what is in /etc/fstab06:30
thoreauputicT3hWiz0rd: e.g. if the "user" or "users" option is set, you can mount/umount06:31
thoreauputicif the "users" is set, any user can umount, if sigular ( "user") then the user who mounted the device can umount it06:31
thoreauputicumm s/sigular/singular06:32
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kenAny one using the driver from 'fs-driver.org' over here?06:32
thoreauputicken: since no-one knows what it does, hard to say. What are you trying to actually do?06:33
kenIt is a driver that is used by Windows XP to 'see' the EXT2/3 partitions and write/read to it06:33
thoreauputicah I see06:33
thoreauputic:)06:33
kenAnyone used that driver?06:34
thoreauputicken: sorry, I wiped my windows ages ago06:34
thoreauputicken: I've heard it works06:34
keni have experienced it doesn't06:34
thoreauputic:(06:34
thoreauputicdid it trash your data ?06:35
kenwait i will give the exact error06:35
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thoreauputicthe suspense is killing me...06:38
kenHELP: on starting ubuntu i get: /dev/hda1 has been mount 30 times, without being checked, and then it is checked (slowly), similarly a message comes for /dev/hdb1. And i have to wait. Can someone tell me why this error comes? I tried writing to a EXT3 /home with the driver from fs-driver.org, from windows and after that this happens,06:38
thoreauputicken: see my answer in #ubuntu06:39
kenthoreauputic: From now on we converse there06:40
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thoreauputicyep06:40
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towynchow can i let konversation log on to multiple channels everytime automatically at start up?06:43
hagabakaFile - Server List, edit a network or add a new one and edit it06:43
towyncthank you06:44
seven11where can i find list of other desktops than kde (fluxbox and so on)06:44
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seven11what is a good and fast desktop06:45
towync!fluxbox06:46
ubotufluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox06:46
towynci don't know, sorry06:47
towync!#kde06:47
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE06:47
thoreauputicseven11:  http://xwinman.org06:48
seven11thanks06:48
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prakdoes anyone know about the dialing directory of minicom?06:48
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towycnmerry christmas everyone =)06:51
max_towync: this is ubuntu06:53
max_towycn: this is ubuntu06:53
max_when i logged back in you had logged off06:53
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max_did you swap out your xorg?06:53
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waplawi am having trouble using a printer, does anyone have any experience with this issue?06:54
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bombermerry christmas everyone06:55
waplawi am getting the hp printer_no_found message, and i can't seem to get it to connect06:55
waplawmerry christmas to you06:55
max_how do you enable direct rendering?06:57
purpleposeidonis there a flashplayer9 package?06:58
waplawanyone got any ideas on the printer?06:58
robotgeekpurpleposeidon: look up on seveas's repo06:59
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T3hWiz0rdrobotgeek: hey hey07:02
robotgeekhey T3hWiz0rd , merry christmas :)07:02
T3hWiz0rdyou too07:02
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towycnmax_ hi max07:06
towycnsorry i was away a little last time07:06
hagabakait's on backports too07:06
max_its ok07:06
towycnmax_ but yeah i tried out ur revised xorg.conf07:06
towycnmax_ i didn't actually save as what u had as xorg.conf07:07
max_why07:07
towycnmax_ cuz i just added in the "DRI" section,07:07
prakdoes anyone know about the dialing directory of minicom?07:07
towycnmax_ and also under modules, i added the line Load "dbe"07:07
max_ok07:07
max_thats all i did to yours07:07
thompaallo, how do i convert something to a wav file?07:07
towycnmax_ it worked better than before =)07:08
towycnmax_ the mouse was responsive07:08
towycnmax_ but nothing responds to keyboard07:08
max_now hang on and ill get what you need to add to your sources.list07:08
towycnmax_ but it still wouldn't run tho, but the error msg this time was different07:08
towycnmax_ thx so much for the help =)07:08
towycnmax_ i forgot to write down the error msg this time07:08
towycnmax_ cuz i wasn't sure if i'd be able to meet up with u =)07:09
towycnwhat the07:09
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towycnmax_ hehe, saw u took a exit with a bang =)07:09
max_brb, gotta get that link07:10
towycnmax_ k thx alot =)07:10
towycnmax_ i'll be here for a long while, take ur time =)07:10
max_are you edgy or dapper07:11
towycni'm on edgy07:11
max_# Trevio's Beryl-SVN Ubuntu Repository07:12
max_# GPG key: 81836EBF07:12
max_deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb edgy beryl-svn07:12
max_deb-src http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb edgy beryl-svn07:12
max_add that to your sources.list07:12
towycnk07:12
towycnadding07:13
thompaanybody using soundkonverter? what does it need for wav files here07:13
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thompai got all codecs stuff, but the error is on opening the flac or mp3 to be converted."try changing file name"07:14
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thompamax_: beryl svn is not working for me right now07:14
towycnmax_ k i'm adding in the repos now, i had to find where sources.list were at first, so i googled, and i'm adding now07:14
thompait was a few days ago, now it just freezes everything up07:15
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max_does your screen turn white then you get booted to login?07:15
thompamy windows lost the top bar area so i cant grab or move them07:15
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max_do a "reload windows manager"07:16
thomparefreshing or changing themes does no good,07:16
thompano good07:16
max_go into .beryl-managerrc and change render path to 207:16
thompaok07:16
thompalet me start it up07:16
max_no07:17
lbghello07:17
max_dont start it07:17
lbgwhy my desktop frequently down?07:17
lbg?07:17
towycnmax_ cool i had to type it in, i couldn't copy paste from here, now it's in the sources.list, how do i get the key, do i do wget something07:18
thompamax_: im looking for it07:18
towycnwe're overwhelming max with questions hehe, thx max =)07:18
max_KEY=81836EBF; gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv $KEY && gpg --export --armor $KEY | sudo apt-key add -07:18
towycnenter that verbatim into command prompt?07:18
max_yes07:18
towycnk07:18
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max_thompa: just open a terminal and do sudo nano .beryl-manager-rc07:20
max_oops07:20
max_.beryl-managerrc07:20
max_that07:20
towycngpg: requesting key 81836EBF from hkp server subkeys.pgp.net07:20
towycngpg: key 81836EBF: public key "Trevio (3v1n0) <trevi55@gmail.com>" imported07:20
towycngpg: no ultimately trusted keys found07:20
towycngpg: Total number processed: 107:20
towycngpg:               imported: 107:20
towycnOK07:20
towycndoes that look right07:20
towycnsorry if i'm spamming, i forgot to paste into paste bin07:21
max_ya, it says OK07:21
towycnok =)07:21
max_now do a sudo apt-get update, if it gives you an error (it might) do it again and it shouldnt07:21
towycnk07:21
max_then do sudo apt-get install beryl07:21
thompamax_: what do i put there07:22
max_you did sudo nano .beryl-managerrc?07:22
thompai found some rendering path options, in the gui, but auto , texture ,cop07:23
thompayes07:23
towycnbtw i'm using kubuntu, hopefully that doesn't change anything right =)07:23
max_is beryl shut down07:23
thompayes07:23
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max_townycn: ubuntu, kubuntu, same thing07:23
towycncool =-)07:23
max_i use kubuntu07:23
max_cause i dont like gnome07:23
max_thompa: ok change render path from 0 to 207:24
towycn=) i never tried gnome before07:24
max_townycn: not do sudo apt-get install beryl07:24
max_now do*07:24
towycndpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `sun-java5-bin' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed.07:25
towycnthat was the error msg07:25
towycni've been getting that since lately the auto updater had problems07:25
thompamax_: eh, is that a new file?07:25
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max_thompa: no07:26
thompanevermind i found it07:26
spitwisehappy ximas07:26
thompai must have misspelled it07:26
max_towycn: did you do that?07:26
towycnactually adept_updater had been bad for me lately, it gets stuck whenever it finished downloading the updates and tries to install something related to sun java07:26
towycnyeah i typed in sudo apt-get install beryl07:26
spitwiseapt is much easier to use07:26
max_did it install it07:27
towycni had this error msg:  dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `sun-java5-bin' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed.07:27
towycnno it stopped half way i think07:27
max_try it again07:27
towycnk07:27
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towycnk now it worked07:27
towycnduring the process all they did was remove something sun-java related07:28
max_now do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade07:28
towycnk07:28
thompamax_i had to also change rendering path to copy from auto07:29
towycnmax_ download in process07:29
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max_alright07:29
max_so the render path was set to 2?07:29
thomparight click on beryl manager icon, rendering path on copy also07:29
max_what was the render path in .beryl-managerrc07:30
thompamax_: thanks , working well now07:30
max_no problem07:30
towycnmax_ 97 percent =)07:30
towycnunpacking07:30
thompai think it was 007:30
towycna whole bunch of things07:30
towycnstill unpacking07:31
max_towycn: now just do beryl-manager in a terminal and itll start up07:31
towycnWrote namespace list at bcf8 - bd0807:31
towycn***07:31
towycnPreparing to replace emerald-themes 0.1.2-0ubuntu1 (using .../emerald-themes_0.1.4+svn20061219-r1916+3v1ubuntu0_all.deb) ...07:31
towycnUnpacking replacement emerald-themes ...07:31
towycnErrors were encountered while processing:07:31
towycn /var/cache/apt/archives/libemeraldengine0_0.1.4+svn20061223-r2015+3v1ubuntu0_i386.deb07:31
towycnE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)07:31
thompaeverythin is 0 in that file but icon size07:32
towycnmax_ would the error msg above be a problem?07:32
thompaand now render path07:32
max_no07:32
towycnto my question? that'd be great lol07:32
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max_towycn: now just do beryl-manager in a terminal and itll start up07:32
towycnk07:32
max_itll give you errors07:32
max_dont worry07:32
max_dont paste them07:33
towycnfingers crossed =) testing k07:33
towycnsorry =)07:33
max_itll still start up07:33
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spitwisehmm beryl looks interesting07:33
towycnit says composite manager crashed twice within a minute and is therefore disabled for this session07:33
towycnactually one of the error msg is: beryl: another composite manager is already running on screen: 007:34
max_whats your processor speed?07:34
towycn3ghz07:34
max_ok07:34
max_restart then try to start beryl again07:34
towycnnvidia fx 5900 for graphics card, and 1g ram07:34
thompaburn and transporter are in animation setting07:34
towycnk07:34
max_you dont even have to do a full one07:34
max_just do ctrl+alt+backspace07:35
max_just need to restart x07:35
towycnme right07:35
towycnk07:35
towycnbrb07:35
thompabzflag does not work with beryl though, so i got to often switch off07:36
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thompaopen gl game07:36
spitwisebzflag rocks07:36
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towycn!paste07:37
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)07:37
spitwiseis ok w/ kubuntu?07:37
spitwiseer .. kde?07:37
thompai can get to number one on any competition or close07:37
spitwisei play w/ my mouse07:37
spitwisefeel as though its a disadvantage07:38
towycnmax_ there's still some errors, and beryl wouldn't start, but it's getting so close =)07:38
thompahave you run experimental gui07:38
towycnmax_ i pasted the error msg here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38743/07:38
max_*looks*07:38
spitwiseme?07:38
spitwisei used only *box for years, recently installed kubuntu but havent tried bzflag yet07:38
towycno do i have to uninstall baghira07:39
max_maybe07:39
thompadid you install emerald files too, cause i missed that first time07:39
max_and if that dosnt work07:39
max_do apt-get install beryl again07:39
towycnk07:39
towycnwould i just do: sudo apt-get uninstall Baghira?07:39
thompaif you use syanptic it will skip emerald themes and some other file07:39
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max_yes07:40
max_thompa: were not using synap here07:40
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thompathats good07:40
max_i got it under control dont worry07:41
thompai cant get snow to work07:41
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SurgeXDoes Kubuntu support the Intel Graphics Media Accelerator (900)?07:42
towycnk brb i uninstalled baghira07:42
towycnoops, i meant to type: max_ brb i uninstalled baghira, restarting07:42
max_alright07:43
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towycnmax_ k i'm back, after i uninstalled baghira, i think beryl-manager got deleted too, cuz it now says command not found, so i just do sudo apt-get install beryl again right07:45
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max_yes07:45
towycnand then beryl-manager again right07:45
towycnhehe sorry =) but just don't wanna mess anything up07:46
max_did you get errors installing it?07:46
towycnnope07:46
max_then do beryl-manager07:46
towycnk =) fingers crossed again lol07:46
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towycndarn it07:46
max_same problem?07:47
towycnthere's another composite manager failure error dialogue box07:47
max_hang on07:47
towycnit says again the composite manager crashed twice within a minute and is therefore disabled for this session07:47
towycnbut this time when i type beryl-manager it's a lot cleaner, there was only this msg:07:47
max_do07:47
spitwisedoes it tell you to edit your xorg.conf?07:47
towycncomputer@computer-desktop:~$ trying '/home/computer/.xcompmgrrc' as configfile07:47
towycnfinished parsing the config file07:47
max_glib -l07:47
towycnno space between - and | right07:48
max_its not a |07:48
max_its a lower case L07:48
towycno07:48
towycncool thx07:48
max_mhm07:48
spitwise!pipe07:48
towycnglib command not found07:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pipe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:48
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towycnapt-get install glib?07:48
max_no07:48
towycno hehe, cool07:48
max_i dont know about that error07:49
max_go into #beryl and ask07:49
towycnk =)07:49
towycnis there a site that lists all the previous steps that u told me07:49
spitwisei get that error but its a transparency issue07:49
towycnjust in case i decide to reinstall kubuntu all together07:49
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towycni think i might have messed around too much so these wierd errors appear07:49
brianwis there a way to install nvidia 9.x drivers?07:50
thompaisnt there a non svn more stable beryl install07:50
max_svn is stable07:50
brianwadept only shows 1.0.877607:50
thompaive had lots of problems with svn,07:50
thompahttp://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL07:51
max_svn is fine now07:51
max_its not XGL07:51
max_its AIGLX07:51
thompai guess that link is old07:52
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RobbeZanyone an idea why my shell would always respond with a "E: Couldn't find package <anything>" while giving this kind of line "sudo apt-get install <anything>" ?07:53
spitwiseRobbeZ: do an apt-cache search <anything>07:53
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spitwiseyou may need to uncomment a repository07:54
RobbeZit just jumps to the next line07:55
RobbeZgiving no visable difference07:55
spitwiseyou just installed?07:55
RobbeZkinda :s07:55
spitwiseok07:55
spitwisesudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:56
spitwisekate being the text editor07:56
spitwiseand uncomment the universe line07:56
spitwisea lot of packages there07:56
thoreauputicspitwise: wrong file !!07:56
spitwiseumm07:56
spitwiseRIGHT!07:56
spitwisesorry07:57
spitwise/etc/apt/07:57
thoreauputic kdsu kate /etc/apt/sources.list07:57
spitwisethanks07:57
spitwise<-- too much multitasking07:57
spitwiselisten to thoreauputic07:57
RobbeZhehe07:57
thoreauputicumm or should that be kdesu ?07:57
spitwiseeither07:57
thoreauputic(on gnome here atm)07:57
spitwiseoh07:57
spitwisewhatever gives you root privs07:58
thoreauputicyes, but don't do sudo kate <-- bad move07:58
spitwiseya kate sucks07:58
thoreauputickdesu kate i think07:58
spitwisefor things as this07:58
spitwisevim is nice07:58
RobbeZI did put up some # earlier on, since I was trying to use GrubEd07:58
spitwiseor nano07:58
thoreauputicno kate is fine, hust don't use straight sudo for HUI apps07:58
thoreauputicGUI07:58
spitwiseinsecure?07:59
thoreauputicspitwise: yourun the risk that ~/,ICEauthority ends up owned by root07:59
spitwisedamn07:59
thoreauputicspitwise: which locks you out on next login07:59
spitwiseawesome.08:00
thoreauputicalso  ~/.Xautjority08:00
thoreauputicnah08:00
spitwisesudo and kde are new to me08:00
thoreauputic~/.Xauthority08:00
spitwisei'm not so sure about them08:00
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thoreauputicspitwise: hah - ten to one I'm older than you ;)08:01
spitwiseyou're on08:01
thoreauputicspitwise: I'm 5408:01
spitwisehahah you win ;P08:01
thoreauputic:)08:02
spitwise<-- just stubborn then ;)08:02
thoreauputicspitwise: I accept cheques and credit cards ;-)08:02
RobbeZspitwise : any thought around what line that "universe" might be in xorg.conf ?08:02
spitwiseits not a long file08:02
thoreauputicRobbeZ: it isn't there08:02
spitwiseand not easy to miss08:02
thoreauputicWRONG FILE!!!08:03
spitwisewha>?08:03
thoreauputicexcuse caps08:03
spitwise/etc/apt/sources.list08:03
thoreauputicthere is *no* universe line in that file!08:03
spitwiseya thoreauputic , stop yelling!08:03
thoreauputicheheh08:03
thoreauputicit's not something I often do08:03
spitwiseheh sorry its #kubuntu08:04
mikeI messed up my repositories in adept08:04
mikehow can I fix them08:04
thoreauputicbut editing that file is a great way to bork your system if you don't know08:04
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thoreauputic!easysource08:05
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic08:05
spitwiseall i know is i couldnt install anything i needed until i uncomment one freakin universe line in my sources.list  ..08:06
spitwiseno borking.08:06
spitwisebut he is using gnome ..08:06
spitwisedunno if all *bunutu installs are like this08:06
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brianwok, so I tried to install nvidia-glx , but it is only available for a kernel I don't have installed. Any help?08:09
RobbeZSpitwise : replaced my list with a fresh one, but still got "E: Couldn't find package x"08:09
secleinteerdoes anyone know how i can erase a dvdrw with k3b?08:10
RobbeZSpitwise : Should I restart something ?08:10
spitwiseRobbeZ: did a sudo apt-get update?08:10
spitwise(so apt knows you changed the file)08:10
brianwbrianw@hathor:~$ sudo nvidia-glx-config enable08:10
brianwError: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed the nvidia driver for your running kernel.08:10
RobbeZSpitwise : I thought I did that just before coming here, but trough the interface08:10
mikeI am trying to install an aaati driver08:11
spitwisei dont use the interface ..08:11
mikeits an rpm08:11
RobbeZSpitwise : Ah, right :-)08:11
spitwise:)08:11
mikehow do I get it into apt08:11
spitwiseapt is a commanbd08:11
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spitwisecommand08:11
spitwise!apt08:11
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)08:11
jason how do i know if i have the dapper amd64 or just 386 version?08:11
RobbeZSpitwise : well what do you now, it works :)))08:11
spitwiseyay!08:11
RobbeZSpitwise : thanks a lot :D08:12
spitwisesure thing08:12
RobbeZYay idd08:12
spitwiseapt-get update .. i forget too sometimes08:12
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RobbeZwouldn't have guessed it myself08:12
spitwiseis also handy before using apt-get upgrade ;)08:13
RobbeZbtw do you know if kubunty 7 will have a graphical grub ?08:13
spitwiseme i dunno i'm a kubuntu newbie08:13
RobbeZhehe, I'll try to console more08:13
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spitwiseya more power there .. no bs ;))08:14
RobbeZa very wise newbie08:14
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spitwiseplain old debian user08:14
RobbeZ:-)08:14
spitwiseshell only does waht you tell it to ;)08:15
RobbeZdid use suse and fedora before, but strangly I never had to much trouble, even though they felt more complex08:15
RobbeZhehe, inserting "just work" command08:15
spitwiseheh08:15
mikeI have downloaded the rpm08:15
mikehow can I get apt to install it08:15
RobbeZapt fetches the file08:16
spitwiseapt only installs .deb files08:16
spitwise!rpm08:16
ubotuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)08:16
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brianwbrianw@hathor:~$ uname -a08:16
brianwLinux hathor 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Tue Dec 5 22:28:26 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux08:16
brianwis that right?08:16
mikehow can you get yahoo chat sound08:17
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mikethe vox opens but no sound comes out08:18
jerpMerry Christmas Windows users -  http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/25/technology/25vista.html?ei=5090&en=49a6ffcc2da87302&ex=1324702800&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=print08:21
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jasonwhat is the command to move files?08:23
brianwCan anyone help me get the nvidia drivers installed?08:23
unix_infidel!mv08:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:23
unix_infidel!nvidia08:24
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:24
brianw!nvidia08:24
jasonthanks08:24
spitwisejason: mv <file> /location/blah08:24
spitwiseread some man pages, man08:24
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spitwisecp "copies" it08:25
spitwisewhen did irc become easier than moving a file?08:25
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towynchow do i exit X in kubuntu?08:27
towyncwhen i try to run nvidia 9629 update08:27
towyncit says it appears i'm in X08:27
towyncand i need to exit X08:27
spitwisecntrl+alt1 or 2 or 3 can give you a console08:27
spitwise7 is where X runs08:27
towyncyeah but in console it stills say the same thing08:27
spitwiseps -aux08:27
towyncwhat's that08:27
spitwisetells you whats running08:28
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spitwisewhat processes08:28
towynco08:28
towyncso just type it in?08:28
towynckonsole08:28
spitwiseand you can see the 3 of that process08:28
spitwiseand08:28
spitwisekillall -9 <process>08:28
brianwunix_infidel: ok, I have this for uname: Linux hathor 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Tue Dec 5 22:28:26 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux , which linux-restricted-modules do I need?08:28
spitwisekills it08:28
spitwises/3/#08:28
towyncwhat's -9?08:28
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spitwiseman kill08:28
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spitwisei just use it -- its like "i'm freakin serious -- kill that f**ker08:29
unix_infidelman i need to get me a tablet pc :(08:29
towyncwhat does "and you can see the 3 of that process" mean08:29
towynclol08:29
spitwise:D08:29
spitwise!kill08:29
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands08:29
towyncwhat does "the 3 of that process" mean, u typed that earlier08:29
towynccouple lines up08:29
spitwise3 was meant to be #08:29
spitwisedidnt press my shift ket hard enough08:30
spitwisekey08:30
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towyncwhat does the # of that process mean tho08:30
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spitwisearrie    5654  7.0  0.1   2900  1100 pts/2    R+   02:30   0:00 ps -aux08:30
towynchuh08:31
towync*lost*08:31
spitwisethe # after arrie is the process #08:31
spitwise565408:31
towynco u mean number08:31
spitwise(its easier to type than the name usually)08:31
towynci thought # as comment08:31
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spitwiseoh sorry ;P08:31
spitwisenumber.08:31
towyncno my bad =)08:31
spitwise!ps\08:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ps\ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:31
spitwise!ps08:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ps - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:32
spitwiseubotu needs man08:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about needs man - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:32
towyncwhat do i kill then08:32
spitwiseX?08:32
towynci don't see X anywhere in the output for the command ps -aux08:32
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brianwOk, I have followed the nvidia guide, when I try to do the l ast step, I get this: Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed the nvidia driver for your running kernel.08:32
brianwany ideas?08:32
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max_whats the problem?08:33
brianwme?08:33
towynci don't know, oo max_ ur back =)08:33
max_ever get beryl?08:33
towyncno, i'm trying to install newest nvidia driver08:33
towyncbut during that install08:33
towynci get error saying X is running and i need to quit X08:34
towynchow do i quit X... lol08:34
spitwisetry top then08:34
spitwiseit gives me a Xorg pid08:34
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spitwise!pid08:34
brianwjust switch to rc308:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:34
max_during your nvidia install?08:34
towyncyeah08:34
towynca blue screen comes within konsole08:34
max_ok, get some paper08:34
towynck08:34
towyncgot them08:34
devianthello, does anyone know what port apache listens to? Need to know so I can set it in the router to open.. Or know the command to find out?08:35
unix_infidel8008:35
brianwdeviant: netstat -alne08:35
spitwiselinks google.com08:35
max_ok, iwhat type type of file is your driver installer?08:36
towyncNVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9629-pkg1.run08:36
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spitwisetowync: youb dont see this?:  /usr/bin/X  somthing?08:37
towynco let me try again08:37
max_no08:37
spitwisefrom ps -aux08:37
max_your gunna logout, when you login press <ctrl+alt+F2> login that way, then run your installer like that, when your done type in <startx>08:37
towynctype in <startx> with the brackets?08:37
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spitwise?08:37
max_no08:38
spitwisemax is talking to brianw08:38
towyncspitwise yeah now i see a /usr/bin/X -br08:38
max_no08:38
max_max is talking to towync08:38
towynck =)08:38
spitwiseheh08:38
brianwheh08:38
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towyncmax_ do i type <startx> with the brackets?08:38
brianwI just want to get the stable nvidia drivers installed. But no go...08:38
max_does anyone know what KDE's equivilant to Gnomes Natilus is?08:39
spitwisehe just wants to kill X i thought08:39
brianwmax_ konqueror08:39
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towyncspitwise yeah i needed to kill X then install something08:39
spitwiseoh .. youve killed it then?08:39
max_no, no brackets08:39
towyncspitwise i haven't yet08:40
max_oh ok08:40
spitwisecan be a bieatch08:40
spitwisemakes sure its dead ;)08:40
towyncspitwise i'll try max_ is way first, cuz i'm a little afraid to mess with "kill", too strong a word lol08:40
brianwjust switch to rc308:40
towyncspitwise brb =)08:40
towyncwhat's rc308:40
spitwiseprolly a good idea08:40
towyncor is that not part of this conversation, rc3 i meant, good thing i'm doing all this half awake too lol08:41
brianwconsole runlevel08:41
towynccool =)08:41
towyncbrb, hopefully i can be back lol08:41
brianwmax_ you got any help for me? :)08:41
max_whats your problem?08:42
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froudafter backup of Kmail I see message subjects on old mail but when I try read the message it is blank. New messages arriving are fine. Any ideas08:43
brianwI am trying to install the nvidia pacjage through adept, i get it installed, but when I enter `sudo nvidia-glx-config enable` , I get this output: Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed the nvidia driver for your running kernel08:43
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brianwmax_ ^^^08:44
max_i dont know anything ab0out nvidia08:44
spitwisethere are tons of nvidia q's here08:44
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spitwiseseems a lot of people with them ahve issues08:45
brianwThis was so easy in Gentoo. I understand why it is a bit more difficult w/ a non-source based distro, but I don't know where to go from here.08:45
deviant_does anyone know what command you use to see what ports are being used by programs?08:45
brianwdeviant_: netstat -alnep08:46
spitwiseheh 'easy' and 'gentoo' in the same sentence!08:46
spitwise;)08:46
deviant_brianw thanks08:46
brianwdeviant_: no problem08:46
brianwspitwise: `emerge nvidia-drivers` . That is it. Of course you have to edit the xorg.conf file...08:47
spitwiseand then wait 8 hrs?08:48
brianwheh, well since the nvidia driver is a binary... um no. :)08:48
spitwise;P08:48
deviant_brianw that doesn't show me the ports they have open, Like for my MUD it has port 5200 open it shows the program running but not the port it's running on.08:49
spitwiseya just taking hte oppurtunity to make a crack08:49
spitwisenot wise considering my typing08:49
spitwisememebr in the matric when trinity borke into that system?08:50
spitwisememeber what she typed to get the open ports?08:50
brianwI just want to get the darned driver installed. And I would not like to circumvent the package manager...08:50
spitwiseya sorry brianw , just commeting on the amount of q's that ive seen come through here on that08:50
spitwisemore than should be methinks08:51
brianwThe thing is, I have followed the method of installation. It shows it as installed, but apparently it is not getting built against the current running kernel...08:52
spitwisehave you talked to any developers or so? bug report??08:52
spitwise..just seem to be more probs than answers08:53
spitwisefrom an outsiders pov08:54
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sandboxSpeaking of bugs, has there been any development towards the "energy savings" problem in kubuntu 6.10 edgy? The screen blanks and shows various sized X's every time.08:54
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deviant_hello I need to find out what port apache listens on so I can plug it into my router so someone else can see the website anyone know?08:58
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spitwisei'm gonna take a wild guess and say 8009:01
spitwisedon't think taht;s your probs though09:02
brianwWell I think I know what the problem is. My kernel version is: 2.6.17-10-generic , but the nvidia-glx package is this version: 1.0.8776+2.6.17.6-109:03
spitwiseew09:03
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spitwisedowngrading kernel? ouch.09:04
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seven11somebody help if i start 3ddesk i get09:05
seven11Attempting to start 3ddesktop server.09:05
seven11Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".09:05
spitwiseis there a way you can boot off an older kernel?09:05
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spitwisemust sleep .. good luck brianw09:06
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seven11help with 3ddesktop anyone09:07
max_boo 3ddesk09:07
max_do you have direct rendering on?09:08
jerphave you loaded the glx09:08
jerploaded = installed09:08
seven11yes glx is installed09:09
max_do you have direct rendering on?09:09
seven11how do i check09:09
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seven11max_: how do i check for direct rendering09:11
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froudAnyone tried a groupware solution with Kmail? Which is best?09:12
jerpseven, my guess is, <name of glx renderer> enable09:13
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jerpseven, and if not that, <name of glx renderer> --help09:13
max_i dunno09:14
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deviant_http://68.103.69.159/ could someone go here and see if you can see my website?09:15
deviant_I want to see if the port opened up09:15
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brianwfixed it09:16
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deviant_Did it work?09:17
jerpnope, still waiting09:17
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deviant_I made my router open port 80 so people could see my website so I dunno what's going on.09:18
jerpthe Loading pinwheel is spinning09:18
jerphow about.........  68.103.69.159:8009:19
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jerphow about.........  http://68.103.69.159:8009:19
deviant_lol does that work?09:19
jerpnah, it says loading09:20
deviant_I can see my website going there, That's because I'm directly connected to it.09:20
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jerpis there an apache wiki/howto/troubleshoot guide?09:22
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jerpcause it isn't coming up09:23
alinMerry Christmas to all Linux Lovers!!09:23
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jerpyou to alin, thanks :)09:23
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max_does anyone know how to take audio off a .flv file? or just save audio from youtube09:29
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jerpthat's over my head max_, sorry. but I can turn a computer on. let me know if you have that problem some time and I can help09:31
max_ooooooooooooooooooooooooook09:32
jerphahaha :)09:32
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hyper_chgood morning, I have a problem. When I try to insttall vncserver (rather actually start it) I get following error:  vncpasswd: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory09:35
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hyper_chany suggesstions?09:36
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Search4LancerI'm having crontab problems... anyone good with them?09:43
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chupa-chupshi10:09
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Captain_Haddockhi10:10
Captain_Haddock!samba10:10
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT10:10
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chupa-chupshello10:12
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dyvebuon natale a tutti10:14
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max_anyone use beryl?10:17
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Search4Lancermax_, I've failed at using beryl, if that's what you mean10:26
Search4Lancerit pretty much f'ed everything10:27
Search4Lancerfreaking nightmare, beryl is10:27
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max_beryl is easy to get goin10:32
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Search4Lancer....easy for you to say10:34
bradyapproximately how much hdisk space is used by installing ubuntu, kubuntu and xubuntu all on the same system?10:35
bradyi.e., i mean ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop10:36
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fdovingbrady: ~1G10:42
fdoving.. maybe 1.5G10:42
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unix_infideldepends on how much stuff you install.10:47
unix_infidelif you install all 3 desktops then considerably more.10:48
unix_infidelbut then you look at total install size with all the apps and customizations you'll want and youll end up with a nice 2-2.5GB10:48
fdovingfrom a clean edgy server install with not-much-crap installed (using 830MB currently) installing all 3 desktops will use 680MB more. 830+680=151010:49
unix_infidelfdoving: that's what i'm waying is he installing from a full fledged desktop install cd or is he using a alternate or server cd10:50
unix_infidelsaying*10:50
fdovingthat doesn't matter.10:50
fdovinginstalling xubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop will use approx the same ammount of space if you install first kubuntu from the desktop cd, and then install xubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop from the internet..10:51
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fdoving.. if you compare that to installing a clean server system and then install the three desktops.. it won't be much of a difference.10:52
plugs!feisty10:52
ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+110:52
plugsis edgy totally cool10:52
plugsi still using dapper10:52
fdovingedgy is cool :)10:52
unix_infidelfdoving: i'm looking at the isntall guide for warty and its saying standard Ubuntu Desktop Install requires 1.8GB10:53
unix_infidelSee Appendix.10:53
fdovingunix_infidel: that's with swap and actually having some space to use it. i'm counting used MBs.10:54
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jerpI would post this elsewhere but I'm using xubuntu and when I try to access my disk app (xfce menu/system/disks) and it lets me enter the sudo password, starts to appear (grayed) but closes prematurely.10:55
unix_infidelfdoving: there's no mention of those two prerequisites.10:55
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unix_infidelfdoving: also, 1843.2MB10:55
fdovingunix_infidel: then it has changed.10:56
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unix_infidelfdoving:  I wont argue there.  This is for warty.10:56
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unix_infidelfdoving: It's totally understandable that things have changed.10:56
unix_infidelJust not changed for the smaller.10:57
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jerpI guess one is better off if they don't use either of the two biggest named graphics card companies11:11
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jerpmake that $dieter11:16
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umnikHow can I change ckeckspelling in Kopete from english to slovene?11:33
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gedif I want to create a anonymous file share on my Linux box so my windows boxes can see the mp3s in /mnt/mp3 is there a simple way to accomplish this in kubuntu?11:36
fdovingwe don't encourage sharing of mp3s.11:37
gednice dodge11:37
fdovinghypothetically, that would depend on how you want users to access the share. \\yourmachine\files or with a ftp client?11:38
fdovingged: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html11:38
fdovingged: that is for the \\yourmachine\files way.. for the ftp way: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html11:39
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gedfdoving: thanks for the links, I just found this one https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucasArruda/ConfiguringEasyUnauthenticatedSambaWindowsLinuxShare11:40
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gedif I have to muck with the config, I guess might as well start with that...11:41
fdovingged: sure.. :)11:41
plugsnice dodge indeed11:43
gedI was hoping there was something more graphical, but that actually did the trick11:44
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jerpit's nice to share though11:45
gedindeed. :)11:46
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matthiashi ho :) ich habe mir mal kde installiert, jetzt ist beim starten dieser blaue kubuntu startfortschrittsbildschirm. wie kann ich mir wieder das ubuntu-bild dort herstellen?11:48
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jerpmatthias, hi ho back at ya;  no one in #kubuntu-de ?11:52
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matthiasoh, shit, sry for speaking german ;)12:02
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php-freakdoes kubuntu have a regexp text editor12:05
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mustasjHi , merry christmas, are there any deb packages around for k3b 1.0 rc2?12:08
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cappelliitalian people?12:18
matthiashi, how can i set the slpash screen after grub-menu to ubuntu-style? after installing kde it has now kde-feeling, but i prefer the ubuntu-logo ^^12:18
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rolandohola12:20
rolandohow can i return to a dafault installation state of my xorg and card settings?12:20
fdovingmatthias: in a terminal session: 'sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so'12:20
rolandobecause everytime i try to do something related to 3d acceleration my pc crashes12:21
rolandostarting google earth, or glxinfo, or beryl,...12:21
matthiasyeah, that should be the right command, big thx rolando :D12:21
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matthiashhhm12:21
matthiasfdoving ^^12:21
rolando?12:21
matthiasthx :)12:21
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Sharketorhello all ahd happy xmas12:27
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adz21cHow do I get rid of the mounted device icons from my desktop (I prefer to use the kicker applet). I have unselected the "show device icons" option in configure desktop. Any ideas?12:36
rolandohow can i return to a dafault installation state of my xorg and card settings?12:37
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texjoachimrolando: rename your xorg.conf to xorg.conf_back and use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:40
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rolandotex and what about the packages?12:40
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rolandotexjoachim: will it handle automatically?12:41
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LynoureI cannot find man for kwebdesktop, and for some reason it seem to download only one image for me, is there some trick to make it show all the images on the page?12:45
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texjoachimrolando: it will ask you some questions about your hardware12:48
rolandotexjoachim: ok thanx12:48
rolandoill give it a shot12:48
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zach_ok, so I'm trying to find my secondary hard drive in this thing, and considering I've looked all over and I'm new at this, can anyone give me a hint?12:50
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vadoHi'12:51
zach_hello12:52
zach_hey vado, you dont know where I can find my secondary hd in this os do you?12:52
zach_I stored all my media on it and cant find the hd now...12:53
vadoyou ave mount the dd?12:53
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zach_what do you mean?12:53
zach_it worked when I was running xp12:53
vadohein?12:54
vadoi don't understand12:54
vadomy english is bad12:54
zach_do you speak english, ic12:54
zach_dont worry about it then, thanks anyways12:54
vadobut i can help you if i understand wath you say12:55
zach_I have 2 hard drives, and I cant seem to find the 2nd one in this os12:56
zach_where can I find it?12:56
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kenWhat are the consequences/advantages/disadvantages of using FAT32 as the FileSystem for My Linux machine12:57
vadoyou must mount the dd for us it12:57
zach_how do I mount it, I found in in the systems settings12:57
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vadoyou can mount via the system settings12:57
vadoin the ground you have drive fs system12:58
vadoi think is is name12:58
zach_how do I mount it?12:59
vadoin the dd settings12:59
vadoyou have the list of all the dd and his partition01:00
zach_ya, its an unpartitioned drive w/ files in it01:01
zach_1 partition on it01:01
vadoin order, the name, mountage point, type of fs, where is, accesibility mode01:02
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vadoi don't understand what your say01:02
zach_I might have it, nevermind01:03
zach_thank you anyways01:03
vadook01:03
keni am getting lot of compatibility problems to make Windows and Ubuntu to see each others partitions. SO i formatted Windows and installed a new XP on FAT32 (so ubuntu can safely read/write) now i am going to format Ubuntu and i need a file-system that is 100%compatible with Windows. So tell me what should i keep the Ubuntu's partition's file-system as?01:03
vadoj'aurais pu t'aider plus facilement en franais01:03
vadolol01:03
vadoyou can read/write ext2 with a windows software01:04
vadoi don't know the name01:05
MistaEDalthough windows would make a mess of the filesystem's permissions and symlinks won't work01:05
MistaEDplus no journal due to it using ext2 only01:05
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Petronashi01:08
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zach_hola petronas01:10
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kenIs this true: So at every boot-up, before Ubuntu starts, i will have to wait for fsck to check my HDDs and update the journals, if i have writen to a EXT3 partition from Windows in the previous boot? This happens when i write Data using that driver from windows to the EXT3 partition01:21
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fl1how can i force the instalation of a package?01:27
zach_what is the correct mounting point for a secondary hard drive?01:27
russhello there i am new user and thouhgt i would drop in to say "Hi"01:28
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russ__wierd little thing that is, why doe's this IRC thing have diffrent names for one user ?01:30
Lathiatruss__: what do you mean "different names"?01:33
russ__well i guess i had better get down to the question at hand, is there anyway to get Unreal 2: the awaking to run under linux natively ?, i know it can be done with the other games in the unreal franchise but i can find no documentation for this one.01:33
Lathiathm no idea on that one sorry01:34
Lathiathttp://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2643&forum=8&post_id=1252001:34
Lathiatwine/cedega/crossover may work01:34
russ__well on my IRC window thing on the left side there is a little drop down menu thing that has my name 3 times with an under score thing01:34
russ__thanks for the links i will give them a shot01:35
Lathiathrm not sure01:35
russ__i am not sure either but i can communicate so i guess it does not matter too much :)01:36
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Lathiatoh, they are probably alternate nicknames01:36
Lathiatin case 'russ' is in use already01:36
russ__oh, well now that is handy01:36
russ__Cool learn somthing new everyday01:36
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russ__well that link has answered my question thank you lathiat01:38
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russ__well i guess i should go now and see if i can't get my game running under wine, you all have a safe and mery christmas.01:42
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kay!de01:59
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de01:59
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jothCan someone please help with an ipod issue?02:04
jothI'm trying to get my ipod nano to work, but it doesn't mount or anything.02:04
jothI've installed everything from adept that seems relevant, but nothing happens when I connect it.02:05
jothAny help would be much appreciated.02:05
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jothAnyone?02:08
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fdoving!ipod02:09
ubotuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto02:09
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jothTried it, but it doesn't help me, as I can't get it to appear on the Desktop or anywhere at all02:11
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ashesh!"02:13
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fdovingjoth: then i can't help you.. i'm afraid. I don't have an ipod. the one i had is probably still swimming in the sea somewhere.02:18
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lotoltHello @ all and Happy Christmas to everyone02:27
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PFY-guyhappy christmas02:28
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dennisterhey ppl...both synaptic and adept keep crashing02:33
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dennisterand I want to rip my gorgeous new 3-cd tom waits collection, and that's not working either :(02:34
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dennistersegmentation faults, core dumped02:38
dennisterwill restart...perhaps this will fix all probs02:38
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os2macHas anyone tried to download the feisty-desktop-i386.iso and run it from CD?02:39
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os2macbecause I have d/l the .iso (from file and .torrent) and have tried to run it and it fails in the same spot every time.. I have tried 5 times.02:41
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Lathiatos2mac: try burning at a lower speed02:43
josh_hi everyone02:43
josh_i just got a monitor02:43
josh_for christmas02:43
Lathiatoh, feisty02:43
josh_and kubuntu doesnt let me put the resolution to 1440x90002:43
Lathiatos2mac: yoru askign for trouble02:43
os2macwhy is that?02:43
Lathiat!resolution02:43
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:43
josh_is there a way to put a custom resolution?02:43
os2macI am not installing just running from CD.02:44
Lathiatos2mac: development release ;) sometimes their broken -- especialyl if its a daily build02:44
os2macand I can read the disk and get a splash screen it just fails to load.02:44
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os2macand the .md5 checks out...02:46
dennistermerry xmas people02:46
os2macbeginning to think it's a bad .iso file.02:46
os2macMerry Christmas Dennister...02:46
dennistergreat way to wake up; lovely new 3cd set, can't rip and can't install either, both synaptic and adept crash at startup...nor can i install with apt-get02:47
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rysiek|plback02:48
dennisterwhat do i do when i get: segmentation fault (core dumped)?02:48
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PFY-guyis it telling you y?02:49
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dennisterthat's the error message i get in cli when i try to install02:50
PFY-guyif you run the application from a terminal does it give a more detailed output of the error?02:50
dennisternope...seg fault...is all i get in response02:50
PFY-guyeven from a console?.. no more information in the console window itself?02:51
dennisternope02:51
PFY-guyany configuration change the night before?02:52
dennisternope02:53
dennistercan't remember last time i installed anything, either02:54
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PFY-guyonly thing i can think of atm to try first is remove the config directory and re-run the program02:54
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dennister"remove the config directory"? how?02:54
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PFY-guyso i guess that would be 'sudo rm -Rv /root/.synaptic'02:54
dennisterty, will try02:55
PFY-guyor.. if you wnat to keep the config files just incase02:55
dennisteryes?02:55
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PFY-guyu could always do mv instead of rm and place the files somewhere else02:55
dennisterthat would probably be safer :)02:55
PFY-guyso it would look like 'sudo mv -Rv /root/.synaptic /media/backup'02:56
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dennisterthe -R is apparently an invalid option02:58
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PFY-guyok... R is used incase of sub-directories.. there might not be so it should be safe to leave it off03:00
PFY-guyjust put -v03:00
PFY-guyinstead of -Rv03:00
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phobiacMerry christmas everybody!03:01
phobiacDoes anyone know the hotkey manager that kubuntu uses?03:02
PFY-guysry.. no idea03:02
PFY-guyummm.. khotkeys?03:02
dennisterok, that's what I figured...but there doesn't seem to be any file or directory called /root/.synaptic03:03
phobiacHmm, says there's a communication problem.03:03
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PFY-guyu might find the hotkeys in the kcontrol panel03:03
phobiacAlright, thank you03:04
dennistersmething with the latest adept-update must have screwed it up03:04
PFY-guyok.. so from the terminal if you type sudo synaptic what happens?03:04
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dennisteri get asked for password, i enter it, synaptic tries to start, but before i see any text it exits, with konsole message: Segmentation fault (core dumped)03:05
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PFY-guyok.. try removing it then re-installing it03:07
PFY-guy'sudo apt-get remove synaptic'03:07
PFY-guyand then 'sudo apt-get install synaptic'03:07
PFY-guyhopefully, it will fix the problem by re-installing the application03:07
dennisteri can't use that line for removing or installing any application, including synaptic...i get the seg fault (core... message again03:08
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PFY-guyok.... what kubuntu or ubuntu are you using?03:10
dennisterkubuntu edgy03:10
phobiacdennister: Try deleting the contest of /var/cache/apt/*.bin03:10
phobiacconents*03:11
phobiac...contents*03:11
PFY-guythanks phobiac... im running out of ideas... my last thought was to not use konsole or X environment at all, but ot ctrl+alt+f2, log in, run the apt-get remove, then apt-get install and then ctrl+alt+f to get back into the gui and try synaptic from there again03:12
PFY-guylast ctrl+alt+f is ment to be ctrl+alt+f703:13
phobiacPFY-guy: A quick google search makes me think that /maybe/ what I suggested should solve it.03:13
dennisterphobiac: ty, that worked :)03:13
phobiacdennister: You're welcome. Merry christmas man.03:14
PFY-guy.. lol.. forgot about google... its early in the am here..03:14
PFY-guythanks03:14
dennisterhey, maybe i can now ript my gorgous new 3-cd tom waits collection :)03:14
dennisterbrawlers, bawlers, and bastards :)03:14
php-freakcan someone tell me how I can open .rar files?03:15
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PFY-guyyou need to install unrar03:15
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phobiacphp: However with unrar sometimes newer rar files don't work.03:16
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prophit_incgm everyone03:16
nixternalunrar-nonfree supposedly fixex that issue03:16
phobiacphp: I had this issue...last resort was I had to grab a 7zip .exe and boot into windows to unzip it.03:16
phobiacnix: Ah, okay.03:17
prophit_incanyone know of an app that will let me make really futuristic pictures without any real art talent?03:17
nixternalprophit_inc: gimp03:17
nixternali have no art talent and i can use it03:17
php-freakso what should I download to open .rar files?03:17
nixternalplus there are a lot of good tutorials for gimp as well03:17
prophit_incyeah i dont really like gimp03:17
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phobiacprophit: Kidnap an artist.03:17
phobiacAlthough that's not really an app.03:18
PFY-guyphp-freak: unrar, and unrar-nonfree03:18
prophit_incdidnt really work for me the way i wanted it to....it took control of all my pic types03:18
natHi, can someone help me to configure my wifi connexion ?03:18
PFY-guyark will use it to view and extract rar03:18
phobiacnat: What's the issue?03:18
phobiacWon't connect?03:18
nixternalprophit_inc: how did it take control of all ofyour pic types?03:18
php-freakis it part of the package manager?03:19
nat iwlist eth1 scan03:19
nateth1      Interface doesn't support scanning : No such device03:19
prophit_inclike when it was installed after that...every picture i clicked on opened in gimp03:19
natand I also have something in dmesg03:19
nixternalhmm...every pic i click on still opens in gwenview or whatever konqi uses03:19
PFY-guyphp-freak: more like a seperate app that ark can use as a plugin i think03:19
natbcm43xx: Error: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available or load failed03:19
php-freakI installed it, but I don't think ark knows it theres03:19
phobiacnat: try installing the wlassitant03:20
PFY-guyphp-freak: sorry, u mean available through apt, synaptic, adept03:20
prophit_incyeah i dont run linux anymore...but i still try to go open source03:20
nixternalnat: are you using bcm43xx-fwcutter?03:20
prophit_inccompany puters and they run windows03:20
natI don't know I just finish the install of kubuntu03:20
PFY-guyphp-freak:, you may have to log off and back on again03:20
phobiacprophit: There's something you man make fractals with03:20
PFY-guy(or close and re-open konqueror and ark)03:20
php-freakI did, I restarted it03:21
phobiacI think it's called apophosis03:21
nixternalnat: lspci |grep Broadcom03:21
natI ve wlassistant but ifup don't want to bring my eth up03:21
nixternalnat: what card is listed?03:21
php-freakpfy-guy: yea I download it thgouht apt03:21
prophit_incwhats a fractal?03:21
nat:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)03:21
PFY-guyphp-freak: when you click on the file and ark opens does it read it?03:21
nixternalnat: with broadcom cards you need to either use bcm43xx-fwcutter if your card supports it03:21
prophit_inci want to make really nice abstract kinda art....03:21
phobiacprophit: Google is your friend03:21
php-freakhold on let me check the message03:21
prophit_incwierd shit you know03:21
natit's a linksys pcmcia03:22
phobiacprophit: Then fractals might be perfect for you03:22
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php-freakThe utility unrar is not in your PATH. i get this message03:22
nixternalnat: you need to use ndiswrapper for that card03:22
prophit_incwell ill look at that program i found the site03:23
PFY-guyThe utility unrar is not in your PATHThe utility unraphp-freak: one sec03:23
natha ok03:23
nixternal!ndiswrapper03:23
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:23
prophit_incty phobiac03:23
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phobiacprophit: Np man. Merry christmas.03:23
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php-freakPFY-guy: : okay thanks man ;)03:23
phobiac! hotkeys03:23
ubotuhotkeys: A hotkeys daemon for your Internet/multimedia keyboard in X. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.7.4 (edgy), package size 141 kB, installed size 384 kB03:23
php-freak!rar03:23
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free03:23
php-freak!info unrar-free03:24
ubotuunrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB03:24
phobiacHmm nope that doesn't help me.03:24
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PFY-guyphp-freak: are both unrar and unrar-nonfree installed?03:24
php-freakim checking now03:24
php-freakunrar free is only03:25
nixternalunrar is the one that doesnt' support the newest rar formats03:25
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PFY-guyinstall both..03:25
php-freaknixternal: Yea, and I think this might be a new rar format, is there anyways of resolving that.03:25
nixternalwith rar i haven't had any issues opening a rar file, however i barely have to use it03:25
php-freakokay let me install both03:25
dennisterthis cd collection is just soooo cool...packed in a book that's about 1/2 inch thick; great gift for an english major03:26
phobiacphp: You have access to a windows computer?03:26
php-freaklol no03:26
php-freakmaybe I can send someone the file03:26
maurojust install unrar03:26
php-freakk hold on its installing03:26
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maurotheres no point in installing both03:26
php-freakguess what03:26
php-freakits opened up03:26
PFY-guyyay ;)03:26
phobiacWoo03:26
nixternalwoohoo03:26
shenmuehi03:26
phobiacshenmue: Hi03:27
php-freakhehe lol yea03:27
dennisterfirst time in many years i have not received a book for xmas...and yet i did :)03:27
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shenmuedoes Firefox has add-ons so that i can browse website using Konqueror like "Access Keys"?03:28
phobiacdennister: I got a bunch of books. 1984, animal farm, brave new world, and something else from Orwell03:28
shenmuephobiac: :)03:28
dennisterguess i'll have to go out and buy the inheritance of loss now...congrats phobiac, all very good books03:28
phobiacshenmue: You mean like alt+ something?03:28
phobiacdennister: However the one I can't wait to pick up is The God Delusion by Dawkins03:29
php-freakYou guys ever used blogs ?03:29
dennisteri think i've read them all...what kind of book is that? any genre?03:29
php-freakI'm a seo freak, hehe, and I think this blog is going to work03:29
phobiacNice shiny cover too. Can't wait to walk into school with that one.03:29
phobiacphp: I set up wordpress once...wasn't too hard.03:29
shenmuephobiac: nope, its Ctrl03:29
phobiacdennister: It's bascially a book about how God doesn't exist and religion isn't needed anymore.03:30
nixternalphp-freak: http://blog.nixternal.com > http://planet.ubuntu.com03:30
phobiacLook up Richard Dawkins03:30
phobiacshenmue: Well firefox does have hot keys.03:30
shenmuephobiac: like the pic in http://amarok.kde.org/blog/archives/291-KDE-Misfeature.html03:30
dennisterahh...sounds like my grade 12 english essay...more than 25 years ago03:30
dennisterold hat for me, but then again, i'm old :)03:31
shenmuephobiac: it's hot keys which you can use them to go to specific link03:31
phobiacshenmue: I think there might be a firefox extension for that.03:31
phobiacdennister: You might like the book then.03:32
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phobiacshenmue: Give me a second03:32
dennistershe won the booker for inheritance of loss...i might03:32
shenmuephobiac: i search the add-on site, only find nothing :(03:32
shenmuephobiac: :P03:32
phobiacdennister: Richard Dawkins is a guy..are you talking about some other Dawkins?03:32
nixternalshenmue: that is an accessibility feature for those that can't use a mouse, but i always thought if they can't use a mouse, how in the hell are they going to use a keyboard03:33
phobiacshemue: What I was just about to do.03:33
dennisterbooker prize books are usually awesome -- 95% of the time...sorry, i was talking about desai, the author of inheritance of loss, which is the book i want03:33
nixternalbut my cousin can't use a mouse but can use a keyboard...so i guess i just answered my own question03:33
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shenmuenixternal: i hate mouse, haha03:33
phobiacdennister: Ahh okay03:34
nixternali hate synaptic touchpad working when my mouse is plugged in :)03:34
dennisteri removed touchpad...although adept updates reinstalls it all the time03:34
phobiacshenmue: I don't know how to help you any further. Sorry. :(03:34
dennisterbut at least i've got it out of my xorg conf :)03:35
phobiacMy touchpad amuses me.03:35
phobiacI went from windows to linux recently. My touchpad has one of those scrollbar spaces on it.03:35
phobiacDidn't work in all but two things on windows...works in everything on Linux :D03:36
dennister<5-month old linux noob03:36
shenmuenixternal: keyboard is more efficient03:36
nixternalphobiac: same here03:36
shenmuephobiac: thanks all the same03:36
phobiacAnd they say windows is more hardware friendly. lol03:36
dennisterbut i've got mythtv working 95% perfect :)03:37
phobiacshenmue: Have a good christmas though03:37
shenmuephobiac: merry xmas to you03:37
dennisteractually, in the case of my irblaster for the hauppauge 150 tuner, windows is more friendly03:37
dennisteralthough i hate to admit it03:37
phobiacAhhh christmas...the snow plugin on beryl has never been more appropriate.03:38
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phobiacbrb03:39
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dennis_hi there03:39
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dennisterthat's the one thing i haven't been able to do yet with mythtv: change the channel of my digital cable setop box...although i could in winblows03:39
dennis_ehm, hello?03:40
dennisterhey dennis_: like ur nic :)03:40
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dennis_goed heh?03:40
cathaldid santa come to everyone this morning ? :-)03:41
dennis_can anyone help me I'm one of the ubuntu victems03:41
dennister<---is ripping orphans :)03:41
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dennistera ubuntu victim?03:41
dennis_yep, got it, but cant manage it03:42
cathaldidnt know ubuntu had victims these days03:42
dennisterheheheh...well this is a support channel03:42
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dennis_i call the news03:42
dennisteru a linux noob dennis_?03:42
dennis_noob?03:43
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cathalthats would be yes then :-)03:43
dennisterok...guess u are: a newbie03:43
DankerWhats is command for extracting .tar.bz2 file?03:43
dennis_ok03:43
DankerCommand parameters03:43
dennisterwhat can we help u with?03:43
dennis_well...03:43
DankerMerry Christmas, by the way ;)03:43
dennisterand soon you'll stop being a microshaft victim...03:43
cathalDanker: TAR -ZXVF ?03:43
dennis_would like to see dvd's amongst other things03:43
shenmueDanker: tar xvjf foo.tar.bz203:44
dennis_i end up installing codecs but nothing works03:44
Dankerthanks03:44
dennisterok, then you need to install libdvdcss2...03:44
dennis_1 minute03:44
dennisterthat's not available from synaptic because of licensing, but I'll find a link for u03:45
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cathaldennis: have u tryed easyubuntu or automatix?03:45
maurois there a way to umpack an RPM file ?03:45
mauro!rpm03:45
ubotuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)03:45
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DankerHmmm03:45
Dankertar: This does not look like a tar archive03:46
dennisterthe falcon/seveas repository is at http://seveas.theplayboymansion.net/seveas/03:46
nixternalDanker: did you try    tar -xvjf filename.tar.bz203:46
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Dankertar: bzip2: Cannot exec: No such file or directory03:47
dennis_thx dennis, give me an hour03:48
shenmueDanker: did u install bzip2 package?03:49
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nixternalbzip2 is installed with K/Ubuntu03:49
php-freakchmod -r gravatars 777 hey guys am i doing this right to chmod?03:49
DankerNo :D03:49
DankerAlready installing...03:49
Danker:)03:49
DankerThanks03:49
nixternalphp-freak: chmod -r 777 gravatars03:50
DankerI am using debian stable minimal install :)03:50
nixternalphp-freak: sorry,   chmod -R 777 gravatars03:50
dennisterdennis_ i may not be here in an hour...wait for a sec03:50
DankerExtracted :)03:50
nixternalwth, bzip2 wasn't installed?03:50
nixternalhow did that happen03:50
dennisteryou may also need to get video card drivers installed, and w32codecs03:50
php-freaknow 777 is read/write full access right?03:51
DankerThanks :)03:51
nixternalahh Danker, ya the minimal is it03:51
DankerYap03:51
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nixternalphp-freak: read, write, execute for EVERYONE03:51
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php-freakhmm03:51
php-freakWARNING! WARNING! WARNING!03:51
php-freak/home/php-freak/Websites/dewitts1/seo-blogs/wp-content/gravatars03:51
php-freakis not writable.03:51
nixternalRead=4, Write=2, Execute=1 -> 4+2+103:52
php-freakI see03:52
dennisterwell,...i'm sure someone will be here to help dennis_03:52
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nixternalphp-freak: ls -l gravatars03:52
dennister<--will have to start the heart-attack brekkie for the teen soon03:52
nixternalis everything look like --     -rwxrwxrwx03:52
php-freakyes03:53
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phobiacBye all03:54
php-freaknixternal: yea thats what im getting?03:54
nixternalhmm03:54
dennisterbye phobiac03:54
php-freakis that 777?03:54
nixternalya03:54
php-freakread write and whats the x stand for03:54
dennistertoo late03:54
nixternalexecute03:55
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nixternal-rw-rw-rw- would be    chmod -R 666 gravatars   (which makes it world read & writeable)03:55
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php-freakthis is a folder im trying to mod too03:56
jontecMerry Christmas everyone! :D03:56
nixternalif you ls -l gravatar, does it have     php-freak php-freak    for userid groupid?03:56
Mightily-Oatshas anyone tried feisty? are there any performance gains (i know its still in alpha.. but im stuck with dapper atm)?03:56
nixternalMightily-Oats: i use it, but at this point there is performance regression, at least for my 2 machines that run it03:57
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Mightily-Oatsok, thanks03:57
nixternalim sticking with edgy for at least 6 more months03:57
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jontecI'm only staying with edgy until the next one comes out. :D03:58
Mightily-Oatsi coulsnt get edgy to work nicely with my machine. dropped back to dapper.. hoping that i can use feisty03:58
NyaPOI have a problem, my driver Ati are good in root ( fglrxinfo ) but not in user normal, what s the solution ?03:58
jontecMe gusta la dapper03:58
php-freak-rwxrwxrwx 1 php-freak php-freak03:58
php-freakyes03:58
jonteclol.03:58
Mightily-OatsNyaPO: i followed this guide to get my ati card to work NyaPO04:00
Mightily-Oatshttp://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Installation_Guide04:01
php-freaknixternal: you there04:01
nixternalphp-freak: why it is giving you that warning, i have no idea...it is set correctly from what i can see04:01
php-freakwhos knows, I got wordpress isntalled on my local drive, maybe it won't do it when I upload it to my webserver04:01
nixternalis gravatars a directory?04:01
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php-freakyes04:02
nixternalhrmm..that is odd then04:03
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dennisterhey TheGateKeeper: merry xmas04:05
Roadrunner1985!webmin04:05
ubotuwebmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.04:05
Roadrunner1985damn -.-04:05
nixternalhuh?04:05
nixternalwow, i thought it was still in there...i wonder why they no longer support it?04:06
dennisteri used to use that program myself...don't anymore04:06
TheGateKeeperdennister, merry xmas04:06
nixternalmust have a bunch of security issues which aren't being fixed upstream04:06
dennisteru havign a good one?04:06
dennisteri also found webmin annoying after awhile...04:07
TheGateKeeperyes thanx & you?04:07
Roadrunner1985i need it to use my nfts partitions. i want to copy the data on my two harddisks04:07
dennisteryepper ripping & listening to orphans04:07
dennisterthe bawlers cd is really good04:07
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dennistertom waits must be the patron saint of manic-depressives everywhere, lol04:08
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dennisterRoadrunner1985: u can use other programs that work just as well...like cli04:10
dennis_dennis, how do I see which kernel I use?04:10
dennisterdennis_:  do u have a terminal open?04:10
Roadrunner1985dennister. please tell me one04:10
dennisterif so, just type in uname -r04:11
dennis_now04:11
dennisteryes dennis_, type in: uname -r04:11
dennisterwhat do u get?04:11
dennis_thx again04:12
dennis_kernel04:12
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dennisterRoadrunner1985: in command line just type in: cp -Rv <path of target ntfs partition files> <path of where you want the files copied to04:13
dennisterkernel?04:13
dennis_nr04:14
dennis_i think04:14
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dennisterdennis_: when i type in uname-r I get: 2.6.17-10-generic, and that's my kernel...u should get something similar04:16
dennis_heb ik04:17
dennisteropps, typo: uname -r04:18
dennis_but what to install from the site?04:18
dennisterwhen u know and tell us what ur kernel is, we can probably tell you what to install from repos04:19
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dennis_2.6.15-27-38604:19
Roadrunner1985dennister: the problem is that i have no access to the harddisks04:20
dennisterok, that helps...ur using dapper on 386 platform...i take it you need to install video card drivers? r u suing ati or nvidia?04:20
dennis_ati04:20
dennisterRoadrunner1985: hmmm, hold on04:21
dennister!ati04:21
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:21
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Roadrunner1985okay04:21
dennisterRoadrunner1985: are those hard disks on your local pc?04:21
Roadrunner1985dennister: yes04:21
Roadrunner1985one s-ata (sda1) and one ide (hdb1)04:22
dennisterRoadrunner1985: in terminal, type: sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs04:22
Roadrunner1985done04:22
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Roadrunner1985dennister: and now?04:23
dennisterok, now we need to mount your ntfs drives in fstab...go to K-menu--->system settings04:23
dennisternow, --->Advanced --->Disks and Filesystems04:24
Roadrunner1985Oo i use Ubuntu with 2.6.15-27-38604:24
dennisterok, you can also use kcontrol to get into disks and filesystems04:24
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dennisteryou'll see all of your partitions on both drives, but some will be enabled and your ntfs partitions probably aren't mounted or enabled04:26
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Roadrunner1985yea i see this04:26
mikeI am trying to install Gyach (yahoo chat) client in ubuntu04:26
mikecan anyone tell me what I am doing wrong04:27
dennisterRoadrunner1985: ok, select the drive that you want access to, but don't have access to yet, and right-click04:27
mikeI keeeep receiving rpm is not a recognized command04:27
dennisteryou should get a dialog box04:27
Roadrunner1985oh dennister: i did it with disks-admin04:28
cathalmike: !rpm04:28
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cathal!rpm04:28
ubotuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)04:28
mikeyes Rpm04:28
usuariool04:28
dennisterdo you have a dialog box Roadrunner1985?04:28
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dennisterrpm packages are not for ubuntu...u want deb packages if ur a newbie04:29
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mikecan you recomend a Yahoo chat that has voice04:29
Felipe_LuizAlgum brasileiro?04:29
cathalmike: kopete?04:29
dennisterRoadrunner1985: ? have you been successful in mounting and gaining access to ur ntfs partitions?04:30
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Roadrunner1985dennister. this is done now. i only need the permission to access them.04:30
mikeOk thanks I will try it04:30
cathalmike: its installed by default on kubuntu04:30
mikeright04:31
mikeI have tried it but it didn't have voice that I can remeber04:31
dennisterRoadrunner1985: u can now type into a terminal: sudo chown -Rv user:user (your name) <whatever your partition is mounted on>04:32
mikeits an instant messenger04:32
mikeand has no waay to connect to chat rooms04:32
mikehmmmmmmmmmmmmm......04:32
dennisterand then: chmod 666 <whatever>04:32
dennisterchown sets ownership, chmod sets permissions04:33
cathalmike: well yahoo do have an official client for linux, dont know about the yahoo chat rooms dont use it but kopete does do voice04:33
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Roadrunner1985thanks dennister. i did it. =)04:33
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dennistergreat! congrats! remember the chown and chmod commands...you'll use them time and time again in ubuntu/linux04:34
cathalmike: http://messenger.yahoo.com/unix.php04:34
mikecathal I have tried to install the yahoo client but the dependencies never match up04:34
tzbishopWhich system does Kubuntu use to automount devices? HAL + dbus?04:34
dennis_dennister?04:34
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slow-motionhallo04:35
dennisterof course the 666 only gives everyone read and write access, 776 gives almost everyone execute access, too04:35
dennisteryes dennis_?04:35
dennis_ah still there04:35
dennis_got to your site, but managed nottin'04:35
dennisterdid u follow the hoto i gae u the link for?04:36
cathalmike: have another go and the room can try help u out.04:36
mikeOK04:36
dennis_ehm, what was that?04:36
dennisterok, i'm afraid I'm an nvidia user, not ati, so i may not be able to help u much further...04:36
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dennisterdennis_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:37
dennis_ok04:37
dennisterany other ati users in the channel at the moment?04:37
cathalhere04:38
dennis_tell me whats an uri handler04:38
dennistergreat, cathal, can u help dennis with ati video card installation? he's a noob :)04:38
dennis_NOOB :-(04:39
dennisterit's an affectionate term dennis_04:39
dennisteri call myself that, as do lots of more experienced pps04:39
dennis_kidding, don't take me serious all the time04:39
dennisterlol...k04:39
dennistercathal? can u help dennis_ here?04:40
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dennis_thanks, but think i'll leave it for today04:41
dennisterok, but u will need those drivers for dvd's04:41
dennis_ok04:41
dennis_got some other things running though04:41
dennistergood :) like what?04:41
dennis_got problems mp3, java, flash04:42
dennis_fixed04:42
dennis_tips for mp4?04:42
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dennistergreat :) u'll get it all sorted out04:42
dennis_itunes mp4?04:42
dennisterhmmm...don't think i've ever used them...oh, itunes...:( hate that stuff i'm afraid04:43
dennisterhate the very concept of apple/ipod04:43
dennis_got it for free on my internet account i'm affraid04:43
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dennisteri'd just try to convert them to another format04:44
dennis_ok04:44
mikeok cathal I have a whole list of lib dependencies for yahoo messeenger04:44
dennis_thought so too04:44
dennis_so how you spend your xmas dennister?04:44
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dennisterhad dinner with my son last night, we exchanged, saw a really bad dvd, now i have to stuff the turkey for dinner tonight04:45
oemhi all04:45
dennisterhave a coupla bros coming tonight at 504:45
tony__is there anyway i can setup KMAIL to check on hotmail and gmail accounts ???04:45
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dennis_your son?04:45
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dennisteryep...and we had a good xp vs. linux context and he didn't win :)04:46
dennisterhe's 18 and a resistor04:46
dennis_amai, you must be twice my age and up to date with linux!04:47
dennis_?04:47
dennisterhe'd brought home a dvd and we couldn't get it to play with linux or xp...just annoying quizes04:47
shenmuetony__: maybe u can't use kmail to check your hotmail04:47
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aactony__: u can use thunderbird for this. It has cool addon04:48
dennisterbut anyway, i should go to stuff that turkey...cya later ppl04:48
dennis_which film?04:48
dennis_ok04:48
Paolo_Weckltoday i installed kubuntu 6.1004:48
dennistermomento04:48
dennis_thx again04:48
Paolo_Weckllooks very cool04:48
tony__thunderbird ?? is that in repo ??04:48
dennisternp...i've always gotten losts of help here myself04:48
dennis_memento04:48
shenmueaac: thunderbrid can fetch mail from hotmail?04:48
dennis_lol04:48
aactony__: yes mozilla-thunderbird is in repo04:48
tony__very nice. thanks i will check that out now04:49
Paolo_Wecklbut how i can install firefox from the zip?04:49
uhughow can i install GNOME?04:49
mikeI am trying to install Yahoo messenger04:49
mikeand I am missing dependencies04:49
Paolo_Weckli use kopete but it miss some contacts04:49
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mikeright palo and you cant log into the chat rooms04:50
aactony__: u should better find addon first04:50
aactony__: I cant remember it's name but it is described that it can fetch mail not only from gmail and hotmail but others too04:51
tony__those addon are avalible on thier website or is something i should look at in repo ???04:51
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aactony__: not in repo. Here you are: http://webmail.mozdev.org/04:53
tony__thank a lot acc .. been looking for someting like that for long time .. will post the result .. :)04:53
Petronashey04:54
Petronascan somebody help me ?04:54
Petronassorry for my english :04:54
Petronas:)04:54
Petronasbut04:54
Petronasi will get a new laptop04:54
Petronaswith Ati Mobility X140004:54
Petronasand i want to know , if i will have 3D acceleration04:54
Petronason kubutu04:54
Petronasone year without using linux ... and i'm lost ^^04:55
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aacPetronas: see http://individual.utoronto.ca/jaelle_kitty/inspiron6400/04:57
aacPetronas: section "Enabling Native Resolution and 3D acceleration with the ATI Radeon Mobility X1400"04:57
aacPetronas: p.s. google knows everything.http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=ubuntu+Ati+Mobility+X1400+3d+acceleration&btnG=Search04:58
Petronasokay thanks aac04:58
Petronasyou know , i was on linux04:58
Petronasand i know google :)04:58
mikeOk i am trying to get the gtkhtml installed04:58
mikeit came as a tar bar04:58
aacI know that you know :) Just reminded :)04:58
miketaarball04:58
miketarball04:58
mikeI have it opende in ark04:59
mikenow what04:59
aacmike: forget tarballs. apt-cache search gtkhtml04:59
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mikeI need it for yahoo messenger that I am trying to intsall04:59
mildnerhi04:59
mildnerhow can I play a iso file without burning on cd05:00
mikeI have adept05:00
mikehow do I get the file through adept05:01
soulridermildner: whatd o you mean by play ?>05:01
soulrideris it a DVD image or is it an iso from something else05:01
mildnerlets say watch the film05:01
soulridermildner: with VLC you can open ISO files to watch it05:01
karmikazemike you pick one, press install then the apply changes button at the top of adept05:01
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soulridermildner: do you know how to install VLC ?05:02
mildneriso 790 mb05:02
karmikazemike yahoo messenger is in kopete05:02
karmikazethe simple chat part anyway05:02
mikeOk I found GKThtml and am installing it05:02
mildneris it in adept?....I will have a look05:02
karmikazeok05:02
soulridermildner: do sudo aptitude install vlc05:03
mikeKopete doesnt have the chatrooms05:03
karmikazeoh05:03
karmikazehrm05:03
karmikazedo they have a linux version of yahoo chat?05:03
karmikazeim not sure if a windows one would work even with wine or something05:03
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mikeyes thats what I am trying to install05:04
mildnersoulrider: I just installed it05:04
karmikazea win version mike??05:04
mikeand the install has many dependencies05:04
karmikazeoh05:04
mikeyes I could run the windows version05:04
karmikazehm05:04
mikebut i thought this would be a good time to try an intall05:04
karmikazeheh05:05
karmikazeoh mike i see a unix version of yahoo chat05:05
karmikazehttp://messenger.yahoo.com/unix.php;_ylt=ArJhjKxq3pnCeBjzzuKrHlQbc9IF05:05
karmikazeprobably old and ghetto05:05
karmikazebut it should at least do the chat rooms :P05:05
mikerigth   I have that downloaaded to the desktp05:05
mikeran the file05:05
mikebut a long list of dependencies comes up05:06
rysiek|plguys, anybody uses a gsm bluetooth phone manager worth recommending05:06
karmikazeah cool they have good directions05:06
soulridermildner: with VLC you can open the ISO05:06
karmikazeah ok mike, yeah just go through adept and find all the dependancies and try again :)05:06
mildnergreat05:06
soulrider:)05:06
karmikazeok time to go open prezzies heh05:06
mikeI installed the GTKhtml05:06
mikeand re ran the install onmesenger and now the database is locked05:06
karmikazemike05:07
karmikazeclose adept05:07
karmikazethen run dpkg or whatever05:07
karmikazeyou can only install with one program at a time05:07
aacmike: use adept for installing05:07
karmikazeaac he has a non apt .deb file he is installing05:07
aacmike: u find package; right click-> Request install05:07
mikestill short some dependencies that  I need05:08
aackarmikaze: he said he found package in adept as I see05:08
karmikazekeep searching in adept then05:08
karmikazeaac he is installing yahoo chat from yahoo's site05:08
karmikazehe is finding deps through adept05:08
mikeright05:08
karmikazethen retrying the apt install05:08
aacadept installs depencies as well when you reqest package for install05:08
karmikazeyahoo chat is not in adept05:09
mikeI\here is what I am now missing05:09
karmikazehe needs the yahoo package as kopete does not have yahoo chat groups05:09
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mikelibgdk-pixbuf205:09
aackarmikaze: understood. missed that05:09
karmikazenp05:09
karmikazehrmm05:09
mikelibssl0.9.605:09
mikexlibs05:10
karmikazei see libgdk-pixbuf205:10
mikeI did adept search and they are not there05:10
karmikazemike you might need to add repositories05:10
karmikazein adept, go to the title bar and View > Manage Repositories05:10
mikekarm I think it works but there is no voice if I use wine and the windows client05:10
karmikazeyou need to add universe and multiverse05:10
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karmikazeok mike05:11
karmikazeif you havent added those repositories yet mike you will probably need them anyway, for mp3 and dvd support05:11
mildnersoulrider: and how can i play bin/cue files?05:11
mikeOK05:11
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mikeuniverse and multiverse repositories05:12
karmikazeyep mike go mid way down the list and look for a line that says:05:12
karmikazedeb http://........... edgy universe05:13
karmikazeyou have to uncomment it05:13
karmikazeby right clicking05:13
karmikazetheres two so watch out05:13
ricanelitehow can I check my harddrive to see if it is failing? Because I have a Mac Mini which I installed Ubuntu Linux on, But I wanted to reinstall OS X and have a partition. But now when I enter the Mac OS X install cd it comes up with a error message saying that install cannot proceed any further cause my harddrive is failing. But I have been running Ubuntu Linux for months now. I have not had any problems. So what solutions I have right05:14
ricanelitenow?05:14
karmikazethe line at the bottom that says security or backport you dont want05:14
mikeI have the dapper backports Universe is that the samething05:14
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karmikazenope mike05:14
karmikazelook up a few lines05:15
karmikazethere should be something that just says http://...archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu universe05:15
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karmikazericanelite: not sure what exactly you need but fsck does the filesystem checks05:15
mikeright I just enabled them05:15
karmikazeok and mike05:15
karmikazeafter the word universe05:16
karmikazeclick and add multiverse right next to it05:16
karmikazeon both of those lines05:16
karmikazedeb and deb-src05:16
mikedo I have to edit the sorce list to do that05:16
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ricanelitehow can I run that?05:16
karmikazeonce youve got them enabled, and multiverse added to the end, press apply05:16
karmikazemike this is editing the sources list :)05:16
karmikazejust through adept though05:16
karmikazericanelite: carefully i think :P05:17
mikehow do I edit05:17
karmikazeheh sorry ricanelite im not totally sure05:17
mikeit will let me clone enable and remove05:17
karmikazemike just click the word universe05:17
mikebut not edit05:17
karmikazethe text box should appear to write in it05:17
mikeok05:17
karmikazeor double click the word universe, yeah05:17
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karmikaze!fsck05:18
ubotufsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot05:18
karmikazeok mike?05:18
mikeOK did it05:19
mikeman I an getting godd at this05:19
karmikaze:D05:19
mikegood'05:19
karmikazeok then apply05:19
karmikazethen do fetch updates at the top05:19
mikefetch updates first05:19
karmikazethen youll have loads more packages you can search for in adept :)05:19
karmikazeapply at the bottom first05:19
karmikazethen fetch updates at the top05:19
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tillihi05:20
karmikazehi tilli05:20
tilliwhats up?05:20
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karmikazenm nm05:21
mikeok now I have to remeber wher I left off on the install05:21
karmikazetime for presents soon tho :o05:21
karmikazehehehe05:21
mikewhew !!!!!!!!!05:21
karmikazepixbuf!05:21
karmikazeyou should be able to find that one now for sure05:21
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mikeright thatnks karm  you a very big help05:22
karmikazenp :)05:22
karmikazegl mike!05:22
mikeoh yeah Merry Christmas05:22
karmikazei'll be back in a bit if you need more help :D05:22
karmikazety ty!05:22
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mikeOOk ty05:22
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octanhi and marry xmas to ya all05:22
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Hmg4 Anyone know how to get rsync work through ssh?05:23
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karmikazersync -e ssh ?05:25
karmikazertfm heh05:25
Hmg4It does not work... i don't know why05:25
ricaneliteUbuntu has no harddrive scanners?05:25
octani need some help.. i used that easysoutce to make a source.list .. and now when i run apt-get update i get errors. 3:->. W: GPG error: i looked in the source.list easysource made to me.. it says that if i get error do some stuff.. but that doesnt work05:25
octangpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys KEY and  gpg --export --armor KEY | sudo apt-key add05:26
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octanthouse wount work05:26
octani need some help05:26
octanW: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D508805:27
octanW: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D508805:27
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octangpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys A506E6D4DD4D5088 works05:27
octanbut not the last command05:27
octangpg --export --armor A506E6D4DD4D5088 | sudo apt-key add05:27
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mildnerhow can i play a iso or a bin file without burning them05:27
mikelibssl0.9.6 where can I find that Library05:28
octanmount -o loop /iso,file /path05:28
octanHEY who can help me05:28
octangoodgod05:29
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mildneroctan: --->mount -o loop /iso,file /path this refers to my question?05:29
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octanYES05:30
mildneris ist also possible to use bin files?05:31
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octanno05:32
octanmildner: but make the bin file a iso file05:32
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mildneroctan are you german?   ;-)05:33
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stamenhi05:33
stamenhow to save the settings in hdparm05:33
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stamenfor the drive05:33
octanmildner: no05:33
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mildneroctan: ---->mount -o loop /iso,file /path.......fist the file name and then the path?05:36
stameni figured it out :)05:38
octanYES05:38
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mildneroctan: it also works with VLC05:40
Gide0nMerry Christmass felow penguins05:40
mikeman this Yahoo cchatis a tuff install05:40
mikeI need one last dependencie05:40
mikeits a deb file05:40
mikehow do I get it in to adept05:41
Gide0nbtw what is the link for it?05:41
octanmildner ? mount  that iso and use whatever you want on it.. mildner if its a movie on a bin file.. mplayer can play bin files05:41
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mildnerthank you05:42
octananyway.. i cant help more.. i got a porblem of my own i need to sort out05:42
evehello there05:42
Captain_Haddockmike: I have a directory where I dump all downloaded packages.. I've added this directory to the source list which uses it as a local repository.05:42
Gide0nI have not been able to find the online yahoo chat05:43
Gide0ndoes anybody know where that is ?05:43
Gide0nor if it is still up?05:43
Captain_HaddockGide0n: hmm?05:43
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Gide0nCaptain_Haddock: yeah, they use to have a browser interface made in java05:44
Gide0nthat you could use to chat online in yahoo05:44
octanhow do i fix my issue05:44
Gide0nand I haven't been able to find it lately05:44
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evehow do you fellin? :D05:44
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Captain_HaddockGide0n: ah, ni.05:44
evei'm new, so... :D05:44
octanW: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D508805:44
octanhow do fix that05:44
octani get that with apt-get update05:44
Captain_Haddockeve: fellin?05:44
Gide0nups found it05:45
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Captain_Haddockoctan: This is after an apt-get update?05:45
octanCaptain_Haddock: yes05:46
Gide0nbut I can't run it :P05:46
octanand in my source.list i sais how it should be fixed, but that doesnt work05:46
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octangpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys A506E6D4DD4D5088   works,, but not the last command  gpg --export --armor A506E6D4DD4D5088 | sudo apt-key add05:47
mikeI need a specific Dependency Libssl0.605:47
mikeits a deb lib05:48
mikenot kubuntu05:48
mikehow do I get it into adept05:48
Gide0nrun comand05:48
Gide0nthen type adept05:48
mikewhaat repos would I add05:48
mikeOK05:49
Gide0ncheck mark in "run as Root" and enter a root passowrd05:49
mikeI  have adept running05:49
Gide0ngood05:49
octanCaptain_Haddock got any ideas05:50
Gide0nwell if you are running kubuntu05:50
mikeand the filter for libssl0,605:50
Gide0nit should take care of your dependencies automatically05:50
Gide0nbut if you are looking for a particular one05:50
mikebut I have nothing in the package winddow05:50
mikeyes its specific05:51
Gide0njust start typing in the text box on the top and it will autofilter05:51
mikeright I have that05:51
mikebut there are no packages that show up05:51
Gide0nand if your particular one does not appear05:51
mikeyes05:51
Gide0nhm just a sec05:51
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mikeits the last depend I need to intall yahoo chat05:52
Gide0nwell I dont find that particular one in adept05:52
burneranyone use kontact with an exchange server?05:53
mikeis there a deb repository that I could add05:53
Gide0noh wait05:53
Gide0nI have libssl0.9 appear05:53
Gide0ntry just typing libssl05:53
mikeit has 9.805:53
mikeright I did05:53
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Gide0nright05:53
mike9.7 and above come up05:53
mikebut not0.605:53
Gide0nright05:53
mikedeb has the file but I cant get itinstallled05:54
mikeits a taaaarbal05:54
Gide0nhm.. where did you get it from?05:54
octanunpack it and isntall it manualy05:54
mikefrom debian site05:55
mikethats where I am05:55
mikeI have untarred it05:55
mikebut now I am not sure how to install05:55
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mikeI have the debian bin05:56
mikeand 2 .tar.gz  files05:56
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mikeis there a deb repository I can get it into adept05:57
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ironfroggyI have a holiday emergency I need to fix05:58
ironfroggyDoes anyone know how to undelete files from a flash card via USB?05:58
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Gide0nyes05:58
dennis_in which folder I can find my shoes?05:58
Gide0nyou should be able to just delete them as you would do with any floppy05:59
Gide0nunless it is write-protected05:59
ironfroggyno i need to UNdelete them05:59
ironfroggyi have the ntfs undelete tool, but i cant find where the camera is being mounted05:59
ironfroggykde seems to be doing it through a kioslave05:59
Gide0nhm06:00
mikegideon how would I install the Bin of libssl0.6?06:00
ironfroggyif i can find the right block device, i can mount it myself and do the undelete, or at least grab the full disk image to salvage from later.06:00
Gide0nwell I'm not that experienced with linux yet06:00
ironfroggyanyone know where i would find the block device i can mount for a usb drive?06:00
Gide0nbut I would assume that the new libssl v 0.9 should work fine06:00
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mikeGideOn no it doesn'nt work, this yahoo is a tuff install !!!!!!!!!!!06:03
Gide0nhm....06:03
mikeman I have been doing this for over an hour06:03
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Gide0nhaven't tried it06:03
Gide0nare you trying to install the yahoo messenger?06:03
mikeyes06:03
mikeso that I can have the chatrooms with voice06:04
vgewhats the newest that "in" right now? im tired and wanna try something :)06:04
soulriderdoes anyone know how i can submit an updated package for it to be added to the repositories ?06:04
Gide0nwell let me see if I can do it06:07
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DaSkreechvge: Aiglx06:07
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stamenhi06:08
stamenhow was the command to see the load for CPU in console06:08
DaSkreechload06:08
DaSkreech:-)06:08
DaSkreechor top I think06:08
stamenonly load06:08
DaSkreechNo I was just joking sorry :)06:08
stamenplease tell me06:09
DaSkreechtop shows you the load at the upper section of the screen06:09
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stamentopload?06:09
stamenits only top06:09
stamennow I get it :)06:10
stamen10x06:10
Gide0nwell I ran into the same dependency isue06:10
Gide0nand Im trying to work around it06:10
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Gide0nbut quick question, why don't you use gaim?06:10
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stameninteresting06:11
stamenI see only one program to load the CPU on 49%, but the other 50% are missing06:11
stamentop don't show it06:11
soulridermaybe its not being used06:11
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stamenit is in use06:12
octan!flash06:12
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:12
stamenhow to set the interrval06:12
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smaggardwhat interval?06:13
smaggardhmm ok then06:13
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lezebBonjour j'essais d'utiliser une webcam hercules comment savoir si cela marche?06:14
soulrider!fr06:14
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.06:14
octanhey06:14
octanhow is gnash compared to flash06:14
soulriderdunno06:15
soulrideri think id rather install flash06:15
octancan i use gnash with fw06:15
octan*firefox06:15
stamenso I can trust on top command06:15
soulrideryes stamen06:15
stamenit never get wrong ?06:15
stamenok06:15
stamen10x06:15
octansoulrider: i wouild like to avoid setting up flash in chrooted env.. since im on 64 bit install06:15
soulrideruhm06:16
DaSkreechUnless you have a rootkit on your machine06:16
soulridererr, no idea then06:16
DaSkreech then really no tools installed by default help you06:16
stamensoldier do you a command for the network bandwith06:16
DaSkreechoctan: Install Gnash and tell us how it is :)06:16
soulriderDaSkreech: you can get a rootkit on linux? =/06:16
octanDaSkreech belsh,, nahh06:16
octan!flash906:17
ubotuflash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports06:17
soulriderstamen: try installing slurm06:17
DaSkreechYou can get a rootkit on anything that runs a kernel that everythign depends on06:17
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stamenok06:17
octan!backports06:17
ubotuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports06:17
DaSkreech!gnash06:17
ubotuAn open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/06:17
soulriderDaSkreech: whoudl i be scared? :P06:17
DaSkreechsoulrider: ?06:17
ironfroggyHow can i get a block device for a usb drive? instead of just using a kioslave?06:17
soulridernevermind06:17
DaSkreechI don't know what scares you so I can't tell you :)06:17
ironfroggyi need access to the raw block device06:17
soulriderDaSkreech: do yoyu know if theres a way to submit packages to the repos ?06:18
DaSkreechironfroggy: try /dev/sd<something>06:18
soulridersome are way too outdated06:18
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ironfroggyDaSkreech: it is not there.06:18
DaSkreechsoulrider: Loads. What do you want to submit?06:18
soulriderconky 1.4.506:18
soulriderand latests filelight06:18
soulriderlatest*06:18
ironfroggythats why im asking. ive looked all through, and there is nothing. i would need the usbstorage module, woudlnt it?06:18
soulrideri dont know where i put conky though06:18
DaSkreechironfroggy: If it's already mounted then type mount on teh command line and it will tell you the device06:18
soulrideri think i deleted it =06:19
DaSkreechsoulrider: are you applying to be the maintainer btw?06:19
soulriderno06:19
soulrideri just wanna submit them06:19
soulriderbecause htye ahve old ones in the repos06:19
ironfroggyDaSkreech: but its not mounted. its a kioslave reading it, so its not actually mounted.06:19
soulrideri dont think i could handle the responsibility of being a mantainer06:19
DaSkreechcheck #ubuntu-devel06:19
soulriderplsu, im still too newbie, and i cant handle a compile problem by myseld06:19
soulridermyself06:19
DaSkreechwell if you keep up with a package it's helpful06:19
ironfroggyall of my holiday photos just got deleted06:19
soulriderironfroggy: bummer, sorry to hear that06:20
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DaSkreechWhere is tkioslave reading it from?06:20
ironfroggydirectly from the usb device06:20
ironfroggyhas its own usb storage drivers, so it can skip the kernel06:21
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ironfroggyhow can i get a block device from /dev/bus/usb/005/011 ?06:25
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snook353whey does the kontact calendar say "unable to save"?06:30
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snook353i don't have 3.4, i have 3.506:35
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MarkFIm a noob to linux. Can somebody help me with installing firefox 2.0?06:37
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snook353adept package manager, search firefox06:38
MarkFdid that but I dont think it has 2.006:38
snook353it doesn't, but idk what to do06:38
LynoureMarkF: Almost certainly, if you tell them what the problem is and are you on 6.06 or 6.1006:39
s3c0n6what i have to do so i can get the libasound? it's an error for recordmydesktop setup.06:39
Lynoure(not me though, I'll be away for a bit)06:39
MarkFIm on 6.1006:39
MarkFwhat do I do with the .tar.gz file after I download it to the desktop?06:40
stamenu must untar it06:40
stamentar -xzf filename06:40
stamenthen the FF is ready to use06:40
stamenyou must start the bin file06:41
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stamenMarkF: ready ?06:41
MarkFyea06:41
MarkFIm attempting to un tar it now06:42
LynoureMarkF: it should be included in edgy (6.10), unless I'm mistaken.06:42
stamendid u mak what I have told you06:42
stamenLynoure: it must be, but I am not sure to use the 2.006:42
snook353is the "unable to save" error in kontact calendar really so mysterious as google results say?06:42
stamenthey told this but I have download it and install it after that06:42
stamenMarkF: try to start the FF by Alt+F206:43
stamenwrite there firefox06:43
stamenand say what happens06:43
Lynourestamen: Launchpad shows 2.0 for edgy... (I'm on dapper myself)06:43
stamenyes I know06:44
MarkFstamen: I just did altf2, nothing happend06:44
stamenthats why I told him or her to try calling the program06:44
stamendid you write there firefox06:44
stamenonly firefox06:44
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Lynouresee http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/web/firefox , but it is probably not installed by default in kubuntu.06:45
MarkFlynoure: I cant un tar this file.  is the command, "tar -firefox-2.0.0.1.tar.gz" ??06:46
stamenyou must write tar -xzf firefox-2.0.0.1.tar.gz06:46
LynoureMarkF: I do not recommend installing for tar.gz something you can get as a .deb06:46
MarkFLynoure: ok, so just go to that link?06:47
s3c0n6is anyone know hot to get libasound? I get this msg: configure: error: Can't find libasound06:47
LynoureMarkF: if you cannot get it with   sudo apt-get install firefox   I can give you a link06:47
MarkFI'll try that06:48
MarkFDont know why I didnt think of that06:48
LynoureBecause you are not a Linux sysadmin spending Xmas in a jolly fever, maybe? =)06:48
jerplibasound is in adept package manager06:48
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jerpenter the basic file and load the alsa mixer gui06:49
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MarkFhow do I check the version of firefox Im running via Konsole?06:49
_alexdchola06:50
_alexdcalgun hispano ?06:50
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LynoureMarkF: When you get the browser, normal Help -> About would do... there might be also an option for it06:50
snook353its a christmas miracle!  i retarted, and the kontact calendar saves my events, again!!!06:50
LynoureMarkF: try   firefox -v06:51
snook353i want to thank everyone for thier prayers06:51
MarkFthx06:51
snook353god works in mysterious ways06:51
Lynoure!es | _alexdc06:51
ubotu_alexdc: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.06:51
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s3c0n6jerp: what you meen by that? how to do it?06:52
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MarkFLynoure: hmm... I guess 6.10 comes with firefox 2.10 installed.  I though 2.10 wasnt installed because I cant watch video clips online.  I get a message telling me to install the latest plugins06:52
stamen!flash906:53
ubotuflash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports06:53
LynoureMarkF: video clips come in many types, some of them requiring proprietery libraries... But I really need a hot shower now, maybe you'll get that sorted before I'm back :)06:53
stamen!backports06:53
ubotuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports06:53
jerpopen Kmenu/System/PackageManager(Adept) and see if it is in your list by adding libasound in the search06:54
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shoximmh, wo ist der deutschsprachige channel hin?06:55
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tony__hey guys, why my external HD no longer mounts ? everytime i used to turn that device , i used to have icons diplaying the USB mass storage . nolonger thats the case and i have no access to this HD06:58
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ssmithWhere can I find a repository that has mozilla 2.0?06:59
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jerpI would guess the multiverse?07:00
malik__hi all.......is there any way i can convert my ntfs data drive to ext3 without formatting it?07:00
ssmithWhich Multiverse?07:01
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jerpI think its something like: archive (dot) country code (dot) Ubuntu (dot) org07:02
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jerpor (dot) com07:02
jerpssmith: do the sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.kust07:02
jerplist even07:03
ssmithtrying now.07:03
steve_I would like to try Opera browser, but when i download it for ubuntu 6.10 and try to install it it doesn't install07:03
ssmithnew file07:03
ssmithdone07:04
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steve_can anyone help me out on this07:04
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ssmithentered sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.kust07:06
steve_can anyone help me out on Opera browser install?07:06
malik__steve_: what kinda file it is?07:06
steve_deb07:06
malik__steve_: what happens if u click it?07:07
jerpI don't know anything about Opera07:07
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steve_I right click on it and use the Kubuntu package installer07:08
jerpsteve, did you see this?  http://www.opera.com/pressreleases/en/2006/07/06/02/07:08
steve_it says does not match system07:08
steve_I installed the amd64 distro07:08
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jerpyou'd probably have to do teh debootstrap thing then07:09
jerpthe07:09
malik__steve_: right click it n then actions n then install it as root07:09
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steve_tried that and it still says the same thing07:09
jerpor is it chroot07:09
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steve_it syas that it doesn't match the i386 architecture07:10
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DaSkreechCan I set up a script to restart kwin if it crashes07:10
jerpthat chroot builds the 32bit environment for the amd6407:10
DaSkreechThe kernel sems to like killing it07:11
malik__i installed it many time from opera website and from repoz as well n it did install oki , only prob is that real audio and windows media streamin doesnt quite work in linux opera..........i wud love to hear from u if it works ...........flash is not a prob07:11
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malik__far as i think its the fastest browser around n better than firefox but firefox gets multimedia tick better than opera in linux07:13
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ZuluNutI am a beginner should I start with Kubuntu 6.10 Edgy / Draker07:14
ZuluNutDapper*07:14
tony__whats the shell command to open the fstab in KDE ?07:15
Captain_Haddockmalik__: Considering that its widgets don't come anywhere close to FF's extensions.. ni how you can say that it's better :)07:15
Captain_HaddockBut I like Opera too btw :P07:15
tony__I think opera is very slow in loading07:15
ZuluNuttrue07:15
jerpsteve:  look at   http://process-of-elimination.net/wiki/Ubuntu_32bit_CHROOT_for_AMD6407:16
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malik__Captain_Haddock: well one can make ff have all the options of opera with extensions but then it slows down alot n starts crashing.........i had it on fedora core 5 coz i cudnt get opera to work with streamin media (except flash) but i ll loose all the other browsers if i can get opera to work perfectly on linux i wud even pay some one to help me install it properly if some knows07:20
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dmhouseHey all, many people around?07:21
dmhouseI'll get to my question and see, I guess :)07:21
s3c0n6jerp: thx m8 i make it. now i can use the "recordmydesktop" very good07:21
octan!firefox sound07:22
ZuluNutnetgear or linksys ?07:22
ubotufirefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0+0dfsg-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 28588 kB07:22
octan!firefox-sound07:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about firefox-sound - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:22
octanwtf07:22
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octanstuid firefox gives me no sound07:22
dmhouseI have a 'Link to Application' on my desktop that runs the command 'emacs --enable-font-backend -fn "Monospace"'; but clicking it makes the Emacs icon bounce for a while but the application never launches. Entering _that exact command_ in a terminal works.07:22
ZuluNutnetgear or linksys ?07:23
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octanhow do i get sound in firefox 207:24
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jerps3c0n6: if you want to go over a howto check: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20544907:24
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s3c0n6now i have an other prob, recordmydesktop has ogg output format and i need something for convert it in an other like avi or mpeg, do you know anything?07:26
jerpoctan, it should be with something like totem07:26
s3c0n6realy? totem can do that?07:27
octanjerp what does totem got to do with firefox ?07:27
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jerpit does some video07:27
octanhu?07:27
octanfirefox has mplayer plugin07:28
octanbut im not getting sound from flash sites07:28
octanalltoght flash works07:28
octanas it played the flash contens nicely07:28
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DaSkreech!de07:31
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de07:31
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jerpoctan, I read earlier in here that one might solve problems with firefox if they make sure....  /etc/firefox/firefoxrc ... has .... FIREFOX_DSP="aoss"  .... in it07:35
octanoh07:35
octanlemme try07:35
octanthx07:35
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DaSkreechdmhouse: Whats up?07:39
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DaSkreechcan I watch a process and restart it if it dies?07:41
lupine_85DaSkreech: yeah07:41
DaSkreechHow?07:41
lupine_85Processes get their pid stuck in /proc so you can watch that07:41
lupine_85the tricky part is automagically getting the pid to watch07:41
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DaSkreechright I want to watch kwin and restart it07:42
DaSkreechotherwise I have to keep killing apps till I get to a konqui window07:42
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lupine_85DaSkreech: easier would be to have a script that look like while [ true ]  ; kwin ; end;07:43
lupine_85or something similar07:43
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lupine_85(have to look up the context of the while loop for bash)07:43
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DaSkreechit's done07:43
lupine_85then every time kwin finishes, the while loop does another iteration and loads it again07:43
DaSkreechAnd if kwin dies that restarts it07:43
lupine_85yeah :)07:43
DaSkreech That's kinda intensive though07:43
DaSkreechcan It Have it check e very 5 mins?07:43
lupine_85it's not intensive07:44
lupine_85kwin won't return to the while loop until it ends07:44
lupine_85so kwin - and the while loop - get executed exactly once for every shutdown of kwin07:44
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DaSkreechbut kwin would have to krash at least one for that07:45
DaSkreechsince KDE has a habit of starting it by itself07:45
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ironfroggyok im still having problems with my usb drive. does anyone else use them? im only able to use them through KDE apps, nothing else.07:52
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thompaanybody running beryl svn try moving panel to top?07:56
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DaSkreechlupine_85: So the idea is it crash kwin once then run that script?08:00
lupine_85DaSkreech: the idea is that running "kwin" without the & interrupts the flow of the script; so it only continues execution when kwin crashes. so yeah.08:01
lupine_85you might want it to be kwin --replace though, just to make sure08:02
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DaSkreechAh there we goo08:02
DaSkreecho08:02
=== Rashid is worried about the Appeal project GNOME-ifying KDE :(
DaSkreechWhy?08:06
DaSkreechWasn't there a website  that was rolling packages unsupported for Ubuntu?08:07
ironfroggycan i make kio stop automatically mounting my camera?08:07
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ironfroggyor even a way to unmount it without disconnecting?08:09
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Rashidhey?08:09
Rashidsorry was away did i miss summin?08:09
Rashidoh right08:10
Rashidhmm yeah im slightly worried cos some people working on the appeal project were saying things like the control centre should be simplified a lot and that normal users just want a nice default interface...people who want to customise things are usually savvy enough to be able to edit text files manually... 8o| I mean...08:11
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RashidDaSkreech: read above :)08:11
ironfroggyRashid: <insert groan>08:11
Rashidironfroggy: lol...sorry for being moany but that annoyed me a lil08:11
DaSkreechWell they are right about a nice default08:12
ironfroggyRashid: i am with you on it. i think kde keeps too many things out of the gui configs as it is08:12
Rashiddaskreech yeah i agree about that but not about simplifying control centre08:12
Rashidironfroggy :D08:12
Rashidat least someone agrees with me :D08:12
DaSkreechI guess I'd have to see what they mean by that08:12
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ironfroggyif we have a standard config, we should at least be able to have a tab in the Advanced config dialogues that list all the sections and key/value pairs08:13
DaSkreechThings like Keyboard shortcuts being under international is a bit off putting08:13
ironfroggyat least so we dont have to find which file its stored in08:13
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DaSkreech if they mean have  a big [Fix Things]  Button I think we introduce them to a new meaning for hte term kicker08:13
DaSkreechAnyone plays wesnoth?08:14
pi1li want a process to run for a certain amount of time. how do i do that??08:14
Rashidhmm...... *thinking*08:14
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DaSkreechMonitor the /proc folder for it I would suspect08:14
pi1lis there a simplier way?08:14
lupine_85or run it in the shell script with &, then sleep (some time) then killall (process name)08:15
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DaSkreechOr that :)08:15
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lupine_85add pid-inducing goodness for brownie points08:15
DaSkreech$! isnt it?08:15
DaSkreechNo wait08:15
DaSkreech $$08:15
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pi1li will try that, thanx08:16
DaSkreechlupine_85: Wasn't there a website that was rolling Ubuntu packages for projects ?08:16
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lupine_85DaSkreech: no idea, sorry08:16
DaSkreechgwos or something?08:17
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Rashidhas anyone seen screenshots of the Oxygen _widget_style_ ?08:18
DaSkreechYeah I just grabbed the PDF08:18
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DaSkreechhttp://websvn.kde.org/*checkout*/trunk/playground/artwork/Oxygen/Presentation/presentation.pdf?rev=60742208:19
RashidDaSkreech: the widget style not the icons right?08:19
DaSkreechThe widget style is still being worked out as far as I know08:19
DaSkreech!adept crash fix08:20
ubotuIf adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'08:20
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RashidDaSkreech: lol yup thats the icon set...have you seen the widget style? (like menus, buttons, scroll bars etc like Plastik)08:20
RashidDaSkreech: oops didnt scroll down :$08:21
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DankerHow to run program in background?08:23
DaSkreechput a & after it o nteh Command line08:23
DankerI forgot that symbol :(08:23
Dankerthanks08:23
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DankerHmmm08:24
DankerIt doesn't let me to do this.... (ssh client)08:24
Admiral_Chicago!seen Jucato08:24
ubotuJucato is on IRC right now!08:24
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Dr_willis!seen santa clause08:25
Admiral_Chicagowhere is that man...08:25
Dr_willis:(08:25
Dr_willis!seen santaclause08:26
ubotuI last saw SantaClause (n=duality@ua-83-227-225-22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 1d 4h 41m 1s ago, quiting: Client Quit08:26
Dr_willisHes real!08:26
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CVirus!seen GoD08:26
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CViruscome on08:27
Dr_willisHes watching you!08:27
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DaSkreechJimmy hoffa?08:27
Admiral_Chicago!offtopic08:27
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!08:27
Dr_willisIts offtopic to talk about offtopic.. please takeit to offtopic. :)08:28
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ColonelPanic001Amarok suddenly can't play mp3s (as when you start it the first time, asks if I'd like to install mp3 support), but neither can juk, it seems (I click play, it doesn't).08:29
ColonelPanic001I don't think I've done anything remotely connected with any of that lately. Has anything happened with upgrades lately, maybe?08:29
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T3hWiz0rdhello everyone, happy holidays.08:32
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ColonelPanic001Hi.08:33
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kkathmanGreetings T3hWiz0rd :)   Happy Holidays to you and all :)08:33
T3hWiz0rdahh great kkathman is here08:33
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T3hWiz0rdlol.. :-P08:33
kkathmanlol08:33
T3hWiz0rdkkathman: sup man?08:33
kkathmanahhh great things...enjoying new goodies from Xmas :)08:33
T3hWiz0rdi bought th utlimate tool to keep a blonde busy:08:34
T3hWiz0rda juicer08:34
kkathmanIm not sure I wanna know ;)08:34
kkathmanlol08:34
T3hWiz0rdshes been busy for 3 hours now08:34
kkathmanJack LaLane Special?08:34
T3hWiz0rdlol08:34
soulriderhi everyone!08:34
T3hWiz0rdJuicer Jr.08:34
kkathmanI got my wife one of those bullet blender things...man that thing is awesome :)08:35
T3hWiz0rdlol the bullet blender08:35
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kkathmanthanks :)08:35
T3hWiz0rdI made salad and now im letting the family duke it out for a while.08:36
kkathmanits called a Magic Bullet, but that would have been too much I think08:36
kkathmanT3hWiz0rd:  this thing you can whip up low cal desserts...like using milk only to froth a nice cream topping08:36
T3hWiz0rdI don't eat any desserts.08:36
T3hWiz0rdI smacked whitneys hand today for trying to eat toffey lol08:36
kkathmanor a quick pesto topping for a salad08:36
karlhi, i'm getting a kernel panic when booting the live-cd (daily build) ... init not found...08:37
kkathmanT3hWiz0rd:  well I mean like fresh fruit with a little whipped topping on top08:37
T3hWiz0rdah08:37
T3hWiz0rdman my keyboard is dyng :-(08:37
ColonelPanic001so, no one having problems with Amarok suddenly?08:37
T3hWiz0rdi think its either dying or losing signal08:37
T3hWiz0rdits hard to tell08:37
kkathmanyou just pop some low fat milk (which has better frothing) and whip for about 20 sec08:37
ColonelPanic001karl: no idea, sorry08:37
karlwhat could be the cause of the kernel panic08:37
T3hWiz0rdkarl: a lot of things.08:37
kkathmanyou can add a little sugar if you want it to be sweet08:37
T3hWiz0rdone could be say...08:37
Dr_williskarl,  badly burnt cd for one..08:37
ColonelPanic001well, if it can't find init, it can't boot, I'd expect08:38
T3hWiz0rdDr_willis: also overclocking08:38
T3hWiz0rdkarl: a improperly overclocked bios could also cause a panic.08:38
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BrianSteffensmerry christmas my fellow linux-ites08:38
BrianSteffens:D08:38
kkathmanmerry Christmas BrianSteffens :)08:38
Admiral_Chicagomerry christmas BrianSteffens08:38
ColonelPanic001linux-ite. there's a new one. heh08:38
T3hWiz0rdehmm...08:38
T3hWiz0rdBrianSteffens: I'm jewish...08:38
Admiral_Chicagoi though that said Brian Fellows08:38
T3hWiz0rdyou just offended me...08:38
BrianSteffenshaha08:38
karli had to overburn the cd... could that be a cause?08:38
kkathmanno he's not :)08:39
ironfroggyIs there a good way to undelete files from a flash drive?08:39
kkathmanlol08:39
BrianSteffenshappy holiday***08:39
T3hWiz0rdkkathman: jackass!08:39
kkathmanHAHA08:39
T3hWiz0rdBrianSteffens: im not really jewish lol08:39
BrianSteffens=)08:39
kkathmanhe's mormon08:39
Admiral_Chicago!offtopic08:39
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!08:39
Admiral_Chicago:P08:39
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T3hWiz0rdkkathman: by trade...08:39
kkathmanhehe08:39
ironfroggyim stuck with a card i cant use until i undelete these files on a day that i cant run to the store for a backup card yet when i need one more than ever.08:39
T3hWiz0rdkkathman: you're a texan, so HAH!08:39
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kkathmanor was that you do mormon women..I forget08:39
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T3hWiz0rdkkathman: got some Sarah Mclachlan playing around the house today. Its keeping tensions low.08:39
kkathmannice :)08:40
kkathmanShe has a good Xmas CD out08:40
T3hWiz0rdmy family is a difficult one. The white side is racist, the hispanic side is a load of preemtive asskickers08:40
BrianSteffenssarah mclachlan!!!!!!!!!08:40
T3hWiz0rdand then whitneys here, so everyones trying to eat her spleen08:40
BrianSteffensmy future wifeee08:40
T3hWiz0rdi would marry mclachlan just to hear her sing, shes not all that pretty.08:40
kkathmanmmmm spleen eating...my favorite thing to do on Xmas08:40
T3hWiz0rd kkathman tom cruise too08:41
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fdovingthe !offtopic goes for christmas things too. please #kubuntu-offtopic . thanks in advance.08:41
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karlis this a chat-channel our help-channer????08:41
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BrianSteffensit's an everything channel08:41
fdovingkarl: help channel.08:41
BrianSteffenschanner, even08:41
T3hWiz0rd...always a stickler to ruin the holiday fun.08:41
fdovingBrianSteffens: it's not. it's a help channel. everything else should happen in #kubuntu-offtopic.08:41
T3hWiz0rdfdoving: it'd be nice if offtopic had a single soul that breathed, too...08:41
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T3hWiz0rdI am quite confident everyone there died.08:42
kkathmanfdoving:  have you been to -ot lately?08:42
kkathmannobody talks in -ot08:42
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Dr_willis!ati08:42
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:42
Dr_willislooks like my 3d stopped working.. odd..08:42
fdovingno wounder, since all the OT stuff happens here.08:42
ColonelPanic001kkathman: not true. I just did :)08:42
kkathmanahh and I missed it08:43
kkathmanlol08:43
T3hWiz0rdfdoving: its because having people join a sepperate channel to talk to people they're in the same room as already is rather... well, yanno, difficult to keep up with08:43
kkathmanone can talk and help at the same time I think :)08:43
T3hWiz0rdespecially considering this is one of 14 channels I already have open.08:43
kkathmanbut then I've been kicked several times cuz I wouldnt quick talking about other things in here08:43
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kkathmansince fdoving is taking names, I'll behave and shut up :)08:44
notechmany log the channel to use as reference and to get help information, random chat just makes the logs larger and harder to find the information you want from them.08:44
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DaSkreechColonelPanic001: reinstall libxine-extracodecs if noone else has told you before :)08:46
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fdovingT3hWiz0rd: it's not that you're not allowed to talk in here. just talk about kubuntu things. And we would appreciate users to understand that we need to separate support from random chatting if the support part should work to some degree.08:46
T3hWiz0rdkkathman: AIM08:46
soulrider!teamspeak08:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about teamspeak - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:47
soulriderhas anyone here managed to make audio in teamspeak work ?08:47
ColonelPanic001no.08:48
ColonelPanic001I tried once, but not very hard08:48
ColonelPanic001I tried to use it with Enemy Territory, and it worked, but then I couldn't hear any sound from ET08:48
ColonelPanic001I think it uses OSS, hence only one app using sound at once08:48
T3hWiz0rdI have no problem not chatting in here. But i want to leave it with a fairly even playing field in saying that the irc atmospheres of irc have made it tense for people to really be fully receptive to *buntu distros. We should really work to make a lighter, more unified and uplifting community.08:48
ColonelPanic001but never went back and looked at it. There were articles on it though, getting it to work properly08:49
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notechT3hWiz0rd: most distro channels have the offtopic rule08:50
ColonelPanic001pretty sure it's possible though.08:50
kkathmannot true08:50
fdovingT3hWiz0rd: I agree, but somehow we must try to separate random chatter and support. A community with a light and nice atmosphere also needs some rules to keep it that way.08:50
kkathmannotech #fedora, #suse have single channels that allow any discussions08:50
T3hWiz0rdnotech: I've idled in #suse, #gentoo, #fedora ... all are open to fair chat to help keep the spirit of the OS a little more friendly, less of a government structure.08:50
ColonelPanic001I never saw a problem with off-topic discussions, as long as when someone asks a question, that takes priority08:51
ColonelPanic001but no reason to just idle otherwise.08:51
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ColonelPanic001but if there's another channel for it, may as well use it.08:51
ColonelPanic001Such as for this discussion :P08:51
kkathmanin fact *buntu is the ONLY channel I know that has such a hard fast rule, and it causes a very stuffy attitude08:51
notechi've been in #fedora where at times they try to push to ontopic discussions only08:51
ColonelPanic001The Colonel has spoken, damnit.08:51
ColonelPanic001:P08:51
kkathmanI'd think that people would want others to feel open, fun and light, rather than stuffy08:51
kkathmanbut hey08:52
T3hWiz0rdpush occasionally, yes. Ubuntu channels stoop to INTIMIDATION08:52
ColonelPanic001lol08:52
ColonelPanic001Intimindation08:52
kkathmananyway.. Im out08:52
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T3hWiz0rd"our way or we ban you!!!@!@!"08:52
ColonelPanic001"SHUT UP OR I'LL H4XOR U"08:52
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ColonelPanic001oh.08:52
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lupine_85is it working?08:52
BrianSteffensdon't h4x0r me :(08:52
T3hWiz0rdI am going to go make a custom T-shirt today.08:52
ColonelPanic001lupine_85: DON'T HURT ME PLZ08:53
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BrianSteffensplease don't ssh into my 68.214.93.45 with root password ilikecheese and h4x0r my files :o(08:53
ColonelPanic001Oh, well that's different08:53
T3hWiz0rd"Ubuntu: We are the b0rg, lower your discussion and surrender your freedoms. Resistance is futile, we will ban you!"08:53
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ColonelPanic001T3hWiz0rd: that's redhat. N00b08:53
ColonelPanic001:)08:53
lupine_85BrianSteffens: only if you've got lots of pr0n08:53
fdoving!offtopic08:53
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!08:53
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BrianSteffenslupine_85 sorry, fresh install and waiting on a replacement fileserver to get to my pr0n drive08:54
lupine_85aww08:54
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sebastiancould someone help me to reconfiger my grub bootloader?08:55
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adaptrsure - what's the problem08:55
lupine_85edit /etc/grub/menu.lst08:56
lupine_85run sudo grub-install /dev/<Device-file>08:56
lupine_85done :)08:56
sebastianI'm new to kubuntu and i want that grub start windows if i do nothing08:56
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sebastianoh ok, so not update-grup?08:56
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lupine_85sebastian: menu.lst has an option to choose the default08:56
adaptrsebastian: then configure the windows entry as the default08:57
lupine_85it's well-commented, and there's a manpage too08:57
adaptrsebastian: be sure to set the timeout to your liking08:57
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jerpT3hWiz0rd: yeah talk about stuffy:  I'm banned since I left #Xubutnu  ... for all I know they're pissed that I asked them during and desktop install whether it was better to use gdm or kdm08:57
fdovingsebastian: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/ChangeDefaultOS08:57
DaSkreechTHe new KDE developer wiki looks good :)08:58
sebastianok, thanks everybuddy, i will try the website and if i have there probs i will come back08:58
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ColonelPanic001jerp: lol08:58
jerpColonelPanic001: I swear that's all I posted08:58
BrianSteffensjerp: ....08:59
ColonelPanic001jerp: that's awesome.08:59
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BrianSteffensi dunno i've found kubuntu to be the least stuffy by far of all the *ubuntu channels08:59
iftiqi can't seem to get amarok to work08:59
ColonelPanic001iftiq: I'm having problems atm as well.08:59
notechthere is more to the story, or you got caught in a poorly constructed ban08:59
ColonelPanic001What's yours, specifically?08:59
lupine_85jerp: well, obviously. You should be using xdm :08:59
lupine_85:p08:59
ColonelPanic001lupine_85: BAN HIM09:00
jerplupine, lol09:00
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iftiqwhat problems ar you having colonel09:00
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ColonelPanic001iftiq: essentially, I've used it for a while, and yesterday just randomly, it refuses to play mp3 files again.09:01
lupine_85nah, i just make fun of everyone09:01
iftiqyeah thats the problem I'm having too09:01
ColonelPanic001It offers to install support for mp3, as it normally does, but when I say "yes", it doesn't do anything.09:02
ColonelPanic001iftiq: well you're useless to me, then, aren't you? :_09:02
iftiqmine just zooms through the playlist09:02
ColonelPanic001:)09:02
iftiqalas yes09:02
iftiqI've never gotten it to work though09:02
iftiqI can play them fine on VLC09:02
ColonelPanic001yeah, that's what'll do. It's going through and if it can't play it, it goes to the next09:02
ColonelPanic001ah09:02
lupine_85ColonelPanic001: i had that on update to feisty09:02
ColonelPanic001did you just install it today or so?09:02
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iftiqyeah09:02
iftiqwhat engine are you using?09:03
ColonelPanic001xine09:03
iftiqsame09:03
lupine_85i think reinstalling kdemultimedia fixed it09:03
ColonelPanic001lupine_85: I'm on Edgy09:03
iftiqI'm on dapper drake09:03
ColonelPanic001btw, no offense, but if anyone is on dapper still, I'd stay there.09:03
lupine_85:p09:03
lupine_85edgy++09:03
iftiqkdemultimdedia?09:03
ColonelPanic001iftiq: http://winanga.wordpress.com/2006/03/18/amarok-mp3-support-in-ubuntu-dapper/09:03
iftiqcan I just sudo apt get it?09:03
ColonelPanic001I think that's all I did.09:03
lupine_85!kdemultimedia09:03
ubotukdemultimedia: multimedia apps from the official KDE release. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 20 kB, installed size 64 kB09:03
BrianSteffensedgy::edgy() { videoPerformanceForX1300Card -= 200; }09:03
ColonelPanic001lupine_85: Edgy works fine, but the upgrade was terrible, ended up just doing a clean reinstall, and there's still a couple of (very minor) bugs. For me, anyway09:04
lupine_85BrianSteffens: that'll be the fault of ATi09:04
BrianSteffenslupine_85 regardless of fault the end-result is the same and so i'm staying dapper till it's fixed lol09:05
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lupine_85BrianSteffens: okies :)09:05
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iftiqyeah I hate ATi09:05
iftiqalso, if anyone knows how to get Comand and Conquer Generals to work in Wine with an ATi card that would be most useful09:07
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iftiqalbeit esoteric09:07
lupine_85iftiq: does it use DirectX?09:07
iftiqallegedly09:07
iftiqalthough I've never installed it09:07
lupine_85then you'd likely have more luck with cedega09:07
BrianSteffensdirectx is ugly code09:08
iftiqyeah I'm downloading that now09:08
lupine_85BrianSteffens: +109:08
iftiqunfortunately I have a slow connected09:08
iftiqconnection09:08
dreamerhmm, KPackage won't really work, when I want to install it asks for the root pw, I enter it, but it just keeps asking (dapper)09:08
ColonelPanic001iftiq: I'm out for a while. Do me a favor though - if you figure out your amarok problem, PM it to me?09:08
iftiqsure09:08
lupine_85dreamer: it wasnts /your/ password09:08
ColonelPanic001I'll be idle, but it'd be appreciated09:08
ColonelPanic001thansk09:08
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iftiqno problem09:08
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dreamerlupine_85: it says root, though it's the same on this pc09:09
lupine_85dreamer: weird. it's just a frontend to dpkg, though09:09
lupine_85and not even a very good one :p09:09
sebastianhmm. I'm still having problems with grub. When I run sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst_backup it's telling me that there is a problem with cp09:09
umnikHow can I change checkspelling in Kopete from english to slovene?09:10
dreamerhaha, hmm, doing the install with dpkg kinda foils too though :P09:10
dreamersubprocess dpkg-deb --control returned error exit status 209:10
lupine_85that's an error in the .deb file, probably?09:10
sebastianthere is also the way to change the menu.lst but I cant save it. Am I doing there something wrong?09:11
lupine_85sebastian: how about cp /boot/grub/menu.lst ~/Desktop/menu.lst && sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst ?09:11
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lupine_85ctrl+O to save; ctrl+X to exit09:11
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iftiqon another note, does anyone know how to get ati drivers for linux?09:12
iftiqi have a mobility radeon 750009:12
dreamerlupine_85: it's an rpm09:12
lupine_85well, that would explain it09:12
lupine_85deb != rpm09:12
lupine_85!alien09:12
ubotuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)09:12
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sebastian@lupine_85 that work09:14
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_briansupp09:15
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sebastianthen it tells me to save wtih ^0. What shortcut is that?09:15
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lupine_85sebastian: ctrl+O (or o)09:17
sebastianok, everythings is a little bit different then windows^09:18
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jdfellowi have a simple question regarding icr protocol Hello09:19
jdfellowirc protocol09:19
sebastianI guess that worked. Thank you very much.09:19
sebastianI will try it, have to reboot09:19
jdfellowhelp!09:20
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jdfellowi want konqueror to open konversation not kopete how do i do this?09:21
VR_im trying to add repos for the latest amarok release, but i get a 404 error. does anyone know anything about this?09:21
jdfellowfor irc:// protocol09:21
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DaSkreechsebastian: If you see ^<Letter> it means Ctrl+<Letter>09:33
DaSkreechM-<Letter> means Alt+<Letter>09:33
DaSkreechBlast!09:34
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VR_!mp309:36
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:36
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DaSkreechSlow day today09:42
zorglu_as if it was an hollyday or something :)09:43
dettoaltrimenti_daskreech- how can I type in cyrillic in kubuntu? Can I change which letters are which keys to use a 'phonetic' russian keyboard?09:43
DaSkreechIt's a holiday?09:43
DaSkreechthat would explain why no one is at work :(09:43
zorglu_hehe :) i did that a lot while in school :)09:44
DaSkreechdettoaltrimenti_: check the System Settings -> Internationalization09:44
dettoaltrimenti_thanks daskreech09:46
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HnHwww.oldp.net/?l=Prorok (Please click on link)09:47
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DaSkreechNight all09:50
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dettoaltrimenti_I could find the russian keyboard, but is there any way to use the urdu phonetic cyrillic keyboard in kubuntu?09:51
ninHerhi all09:51
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RashidninHer hi09:57
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BlindSidehello09:57
ninHerhi Rashid09:58
BlindSideany linux gurus here lol09:58
Rashidim no guru but ill try helpin if you want :P09:58
BlindSidethx09:58
BlindSideim having trouble install G++09:58
BlindSideit sez itll break packages09:58
nibletsCaptain_Redbeard I till havent been able to get it working, any news idea on the iPod problem?09:58
Rashidin adept?09:58
BlindSideyeah and apt-get too09:58
zorglu_!build09:58
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)09:58
BlindSidethe problem seems to be libc609:58
zorglu_!build-essential09:58
Rashidblindside have you installed any c//c++ related stuff before?09:59
BlindSideits version 2.4 and i need 2.309:59
Rashidthat shouldnt happen :S09:59
BlindSideyeah i know09:59
BlindSidei havent found much about it on forums09:59
zorglu_why do you need 2.3 ?09:59
Rashidthere's something like dpkg --reconfigure or dpkg --force i cant remember :S09:59
BlindSideforce sounds nice...09:59
Rashidblindside try dpkg -a see what happens09:59
BlindSidelemme try that09:59
Rashidlol09:59
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Rashidblindside i jus tried them it dont work10:02
RashidBlindSide: i cant remember what the command was...do a google or a ubuntuforum search for it :S10:02
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BlindSidewhat command is this10:04
BlindSidei tried --force but10:04
BlindSidei dunno10:05
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BlindSidehey i think it worked10:05
BlindSidesomehow10:05
slophelp! i just got a new dvd burner, video card (old one ati, new one nvidia), and a new sound card (old ensoniq, new sound blaster)....is installing these as easy as just plugging them all in and rebooting?  or is there something i need to do beforehand?10:05
RashidBlindSide: really!?!?10:05
BlindSideprobably not10:06
BlindSidei mena it force installed10:06
RashidBlindSide: whats it do now when you try aptitude install build-essential?10:06
BlindSidebut i doubt itll work10:06
Rashidlol10:06
Dr_willisdvd burner - shuldent matter... nvidia card will require ya to intall the nvidia drivers10:06
Rashiddo sudo aptitude update & sudo aptitude install build-essential10:06
Dr_willisNo idea on sound.10:06
slopDr_willis: do i have to uninstall the old fglrx drivers and then install the nvidia drivers?10:06
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Dr_willisslop,  if you know what you are doing... no. :)10:06
slopDr_willis: well this is my frist vid card upgrade...so i'm pretty new to this :P10:07
Dr_willisjust changing the  Driver 'ati' or Driver "fglrx" line to vesa befor swaponmg them out . may be a good idea10:07
BlindSidelol now its asking me to downgrade some packages10:07
BlindSidei gess ill have to10:07
BlindSideatlaest i know what to do now, thank you10:07
Dr_willisya could install the nvidia drivers now.. then just change the line to 'nvidia'10:07
dettoaltrimenti_if I'm running kubuntu, do I need any gnome packages?10:07
Horstdoes anyone of you use truecrypt on linux?10:08
slopDr_willis: ok, i'll do that...thanks for the advice, merry christmas :)10:08
Dr_willisdettoaltrimenti_,   if theres gnome related tools you like/want to use...10:08
BrianSteffens|afwhat's the name of the dvd player that comes with kubuntu?10:08
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BrianSteffens|afkaffeine! nm:)10:09
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Dr_willistotem. :) oh wait thats gnome...10:09
slopDr_willis: one more thing...whats the name of that file where i change ati/fglrx to nvidia?10:09
Dr_willis:)10:09
Dr_willisslop,  the xorg.conf file.10:09
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slopDr_willis: cool, thanks :)10:09
Horstbuddys wuz up? nobody here is using truecrypt? jesus, i cant beleive it10:10
Dr_willisCant say that ive ever used it..10:11
Dr_willisor even heard much about it10:11
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mindspin!dvd10:12
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages10:12
VR_damn, the wiki is all changed around now10:12
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VR_just when i need something10:13
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Horstdamn - never heard of it?10:14
Horsti 've got a problem with mounting a truecrypt volume and the keyfiles10:14
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Horstanyone ideas?10:17
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LynoureHorst: I'm about to go to sleep, but in general people rarely know how to help you before you have specified the problem in detail. Like do you get an error message (what error) or what happens when you try to mount and how do you try to mount.10:18
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Rashidis there any combination of the lipstik style and polyester style? i love lipstik's simplicity and pure-ness and i also like polyester's shiny ness :(10:19
nibletsI have a problem with Kaffeine. Every time I put in a DVD, it comes up with the window asking what I want to do, and I coose play with Kaffeine, and then it just sits there, never loads, and I can't open Kaffeine will a DVD is in the drive.10:19
towynchow do i boot up kubuntu in command line mode, i need to install newest nvidia driver and it requires me to exit all X server before i install10:19
Rashidniblets have you installed libdvdcss2?10:19
nibletsIs that a recent thing?10:19
Rashidtowync when you get to login screen (kdm) press ctrl+alt+f110:19
Rashidtowync then do sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop10:20
Rashidniblets not recent...you need o install it to be able to (illegally) play dvds...depending on whewre you live10:20
Rashidin fascist states like the US and UK playing DVDs is illegal without a license 8-)10:20
nibletsI used to be able to play DVDs fine, its just recently they stopped loading in Kaffeine. (I'm in NZ, btw)10:21
Horsti have to use the keyfiles parametre, i'm on the way10:21
mindspinRashid:I just installed it, but the disc is not readeable10:21
Horst<-- n00b10:21
Rashidmindspin installed what?10:21
mindspinlibdvdxcss210:21
Rashidmindspin hmm you sure? try restarting kaffeine or xine...maybe log in and out10:21
LynoureHorst: Are you doing it as a root (sudo) or taken the steps needed for it not to require sudo?10:22
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srednaDoes anyone know where I can find a libdbus-1-3 package >= 0.94?10:23
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BlindSideyay it worked thx rashid10:23
nibletsRashid how can I check its installed? Aptget?10:23
BlindSideit apears aptitude is very useful10:23
towyncRashid how do i get back to X mode after i'm all done10:23
Rashidblindside no problem dude :) yup aptitude rocks...use it instead of apt-get ;)10:23
Rashidniblets do dpkg -l | grep libdvdcss10:24
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towync!dpkg10:24
ubotudpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.10:24
Rashidtowync after you're done do "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start"10:24
nibletsii  libdvdcss2                             1.2.9-0.0ubuntu4                  Simple foundation for reading DVDs - runtime10:24
nibletsI think its installed =D10:24
Rashidniblets i think that means its installed :)10:24
towyncRashid does the stop command kill opengl stuff too? i think i need those killed as well lol10:24
Horstas root10:24
Rashidniblets now close kaffeine and start it again...see if that works10:24
Rashidtowync dont worry it kills all (H)10:25
nibletstrying now10:25
Rashidkk10:25
towyncRashid cool thx alot =)10:25
Rashidtowync no probs dude...lemme know how it goes10:25
towyncRashid will do =) ima exit10:25
Rashidkk10:25
Rashidcya in a bit10:25
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LynoureHorst: I wish you persistence and good luck, I really must sleep now10:26
towynco forgot to copy down command haha10:26
Horstok10:26
Horstgood night Lynoure10:26
Rashidlol10:26
Horstsweet dreams lol10:26
nibletsRashid still just doesnt start. I get the loading tab in the tray, then it just stops, no error wraning or anything10:27
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Rashidyou mean kaffeine or the dvd?10:27
nibletsKaffeine10:28
Rashidhave you clicked the icon in the system tray?10:28
nibletsyeap10:28
Rashiderm.....10:29
nibletsMaybe I should reinstall kaffeine? see if that helps?10:29
Sanneniblets, Rashid: maybe try starting kaffeine from a konsole and see if it spits out any errors?10:29
Rashidyeah i was gonna suggest that...if thats not a pain...also you might run into some strange dependency problems but try it if you want10:29
nibletscommand?10:29
Rashidsanne good idea *doh*10:30
nibletsas in, what command I use10:30
Rashidkaffine :)10:30
Rashidkaffeine*10:30
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RashidK Menu > konsole > type "kaffeine"10:30
nibletsjust doesnt start nor error. goes to a new command line10:30
Rashidyou sure???10:30
nibletsabsolutely10:30
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nibletsniblets@funny-name:~$ kaffeine10:31
nibletsniblets@funny-name:~$10:31
Rashidwow...odd!10:31
VR_i forgot what the kubuntu codecs are. they're missing from the wiki, it seems10:31
nibletsmaybe Kaffeine is corrupted?10:31
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Rashidmaybe10:31
Rashidtry re-installing it10:31
Rashidsudo aptitude update & sudo aptitude reinstall kaffeine10:31
nibletshow do I go about that?10:31
Sanneniblets: maybe there's a stray kaffeine proccess in the backgound. What does this command give: ps aux | grep kaffeine10:31
VR_!codecs10:31
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:31
nibletsniblets   4818  0.0  2.2  32384 11464 ?        S    08:26   0:00 kaffeine -session 1014c107dccf000116686560600000048100011_1167043199_42650210:32
nibletsniblets   5722  0.0  0.1   2804   764 pts/1    S+   10:31   0:00 grep kaffeine10:32
Rashidyup kaffeine is alive10:32
Sannenibblthen it's not running... ok10:32
Rashiddo sudo killall kaffeine10:32
nibletsohk10:32
Rashid:S10:32
Rashidsanne i thought that meant it is running :$10:32
nibletsits dead10:32
nibletsEven if it is running, it doesnt open a window, nor play the dvd10:32
SanneRashid: no, this line refers only to the ps aux command10:32
Rashidsanne ah ok thanks :)10:33
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nibletsNow what10:33
niblets?10:33
SanneRashid, niblets: wait10:33
Rashidwaitin :p10:33
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nibletswaitin indeed10:33
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SanneRashid, niblets: I didn't see the first pasted line, so it indeed was running, and should be killed with Rashids command10:34
Sannesorry10:34
nibletsyup10:34
Rashidsanne lol that makes me happy :D confused me for a bit10:34
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Rashidniblets ok now try kaffeine @ command line10:34
SanneRashid: sorry, I was too hasty ;)10:34
Rashidsanne no problem :)10:34
Sanne:)10:34
zorglu_:)10:34
nibletsopened now10:35
Sanneaaahhh!10:35
nibletsIt works! Sanne , Rashid Appreciate the help muchly10:35
Rashidniblets no problem again :)10:35
Sanneniblets: you're welcome :)10:35
Rashidfeels good to help people eh sanne :D10:35
SanneRashid: indeed :)10:36
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nibletsDo you know what the actual problem was? Like, what was causign the failure?10:36
Rashida stray kaffeine process10:36
nibletsSo if it happens again, just kill kaffeine @ command?10:37
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Rashidyup10:37
nibletsAwesome10:37
niblets=D10:37
Rashidor "sudo killall kaffeine" to be specific :)10:37
nibletsyea, I know that much =P10:37
Rashid:)10:38
Rashidlol10:38
nibletsNow I can finally watch my Red Dwarf!10:38
Sanneniblets: and it's always a good idea to check your proccess list with ps aux | grep progname, or graphically with a proccess watcher10:38
Rashidlol red dwarf :P10:38
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nibletsSanne I will rmember that10:38
nibletsRashid love it10:38
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Sanneniblets: I'm using ksysguard for that10:39
Rashidniblets lol never watched it myself...10:39
Rashidtheres also "top" but i dunno how good it is (its semi graphical semi command line)10:39
nibletsSanne I could probably use that every now and then, when problems arise10:39
towyncRashid hi, i quit x to try install the nvidia driver, but when i did: sudo sh [nividia driver file here] , it says it can't open the driver file10:39
Rashidwhat driver are you trying to install?10:40
JohnFluxSanne: speaking of ksysguard.. http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/3906/sensorload22oo5.png10:40
Sanneniblets: yeah, just check it out sometimes, it should be installed by default, good way also to learn about processes on your system in general.10:40
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Rashidjohnflux nice10:40
towyncRashid the file name is: NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9269-pkg1.run, so i tried to sudo sh that, and it says it couldn't open the file10:40
Rashidis it executable?10:40
Rashiddo sudo chmod a+x10:41
SanneJohnFlux, niblets:, yeah, ksysguard also shows nice graphs of system load and the likes10:41
towyncok10:41
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towynccould the sudo chmod a+x be done in konsole right now, or do i have to kill kdm again before chmod10:41
JohnFluxtowync: you can chmod now10:41
towyncJohnFlux cool, thx alot =)10:42
towyncbrb10:42
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nibletsAnother question!10:43
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JohnFluxniblets: 42!10:43
Rashidniblets gwan10:43
nibletsI can't get my iPod to connect with Linux, I plug it in with amarok running, and it doesn't find the media device. It is all set up on windows already, so its not that.10:43
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Rashidniblets sorry...i really dunno bout ipods... are they considered mass storage devices?10:45
Rashidniblets: if so you could try manually mounting it but if not then i really dunno :S10:45
nibletsRashid They are under windows10:45
Rashidok in konsole/yakuake try sudo mkdir /media/ipod & sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/ipod10:46
nibletsI tried manually mounting, but something made it not work. It didnt even find the device to mount10:46
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Rashidreally? hmm....10:46
zorglu_http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/IPod10:46
Rashid!ipod10:46
ubotuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto10:46
Rashidniblets try them10:47
Rashidtesting 1 2 3 >>10:47
zorglu_hehe this link is even better :)10:47
Rashid!gnome10:47
ubotugnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.10:47
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Rashidzorglu :)10:47
nibletsohk10:47
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froudI want to uninstall gcj and use sun-java instead, why when removing gcj does it want to also remove kubuntu-desktop and other stuff for OOo10:50
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Sannefroud: you don't need to uninstall gcj, I think.10:51
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dmhouseI have a 'Link to Application' on my desktop that runs the command 'emacs --enable-font-backend -fn "Monospace"'; but clicking it makes the Emacs icon bounce for a while but the application never launches. Entering _that exact command_ in a terminal works.10:52
Sannefroud: fi you install sun java from ubuntu repositories, you can later tell the system which java version to use by default, let me search the command, sec10:52
froudSanne: thx10:53
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Sannefroud: I recenty did that on Dapper and made a little text file of the steps I did, I'll pastebin it for you10:53
zorglu_dmhouse: try to set "advanced->run in terminal" to see if it help10:54
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dmhousezorglu_: yeah, that works, but it does leave an annoying shell window behind.10:55
Sannefroud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38807/10:55
dmhouseRunning the code from Alt+F2 is a temporary solution I'm using.10:55
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computer_does apt-get come with nvidia drivers, i tried to install a new nvidia driver and it had a bunch of errors about conflicint x and opengl files, and i'm pretty sure the update failed cuz i tried to open a game like doom3, now it just crashes out to the login screen10:55
dmhousezorglu_: never mind, thanks anyway.10:56
computer_so now i need to go back to my old nvidia drivers, anyone know how?10:56
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froudSanne: thx10:56
Sannefroud: you're welcome, hope it helps (of course, can exchange Synaptic with Adept or apt-get or aptitude etc...)10:57
froudSanne: yip using apt-get10:57
Sannefroud: ok, good luck then :)10:58
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pfeutimsomebody expirience with continous samba onput/output errors11:03
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izaurohola11:04
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izaurome pueden recomendar como administro IPTABLES11:05
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izauroo mas bien como lo configuro11:05
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Hyper_Mam!palm11:05
ubotuA good guide for setting up Palm devices is at http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/PalmOS-HOWTO.html#PC-CONNECT-USB11:05
pfeutim!samba11:06
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT11:06
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towynchow would i remove aiglx from edgy?11:19
Rashidwhy do you want to do that?11:19
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Rashidtowync why you wanna do that?11:20
dwidmannaiglx is just a module for Xorg....11:21
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dwidmannYou could probably stop it from loading ...11:21
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Rashidyou disable compositing in xorg.conf dont you? or something like that :S11:23
Rashidbut towync why would yuo want to? any specific reason?11:23
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cathalexiting kaffine on full screen , crashes my desktop, any ideas on what would be the cause, possibly graphics driver maybe?11:25
dwidmanncrashes the whole desktop? That's odd11:26
dwidmannI wouldn't be surprised to see it crash kaffeine though ... seems like everything wants to crash when it's closed anymore11:26
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cathalvlc works ok though11:27
dwidmannso, you're saying, if you have it playing @ full screen, if you alt+f4 it boots you back to kdm?11:29
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cathaldwidmann: thats right, im still searching for an answer. If u come up with any ideas let me know, cheers.11:31
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soulriderhi11:31
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cathalnew version release notes dont mention the issue11:31
soulrider!es11:32
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.11:32
towyncRashid o i was just following an install guide for beryl and it said to remove aiglx, but then later i found out that i didn't have to worry about it11:32
towyncthx11:32
dwidmanncathal: What graphics driver are you using, are you using edgy or dapper, (and with what version of kde), also, what engine(the default xine engine?), with which vo(video out) driver? sound driver? file type11:32
Rashidtowync cool thought so...leave aiglx its cool :D11:32
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dwidmann(s) played ... I'll try to reproduce it, if possible11:33
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guptawhat mounts ntfs/fat partitions on boot? and what automounts cd's?11:34
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jonathan_what is the command  too unlock the package maaaanager that is locked by a packkage install or upgrade11:35
dwidmannI tried using Beryl for a while ... but I've now came back to kwin, after a brief stop over in fluxbox land. I just can't get beryl to act the way I want (I suppose it's not productive to ask it to act like kwin anyway ;))11:35
fdoving!adept crash fix | jonathan_11:35
ubotujonathan_: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'11:35
Rashidjonathan jus close adept innit11:35
Rashidor that :)11:35
dettoaltrimenti_is there a bittorrent client you can run in terminal?11:35
Rashid!11:36
Rashid!test11:36
ubotuFailed.11:36
Rashid!list11:36
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots11:36
fdovinggupta: pmount mounts cds and usb/firewire-storage devices etc. ntfs/fat can be handled in a few ways.11:36
fdoving!ntfs | gupta11:36
ubotugupta: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse11:36
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fdovinggupta: that page have more information on the alternatives.11:36
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guptaOh I jus wanted to know what ubuntu uses(so I can switch it off)11:37
jonathan_merry xmas all11:37
cathaldwidmann: ati, edgy, KDE 3.5.5, xine, ati audio controller, xvid, did i miss anything? :-)11:37
dwidmanndettoaltrimenti_: try the bittorrent package, seeing as there's also a bittorrent gui package, the non-gui package is probably cli11:37
fdovinggupta: that page describes the alternatives, you can probably figure out how to disable it too, from the info on that page.11:37
guptaok thanks11:38
dwidmanncathal: okay, that's most of it, how about the video drivers being used too? I'll have to try it on my brothers computer that has the ati card ...11:38
dwidmanncathal: oh, and what vo + ao is xine using?11:39
cntbinternet explorer in kubuntu ? apt-get way ?11:39
cntb!ie11:39
ubotuFor Irish whiskey and ubuntu support, visit #ubuntu-ie, Ta an uisce beatha agus cuidi Ubuntu ar #ubuntu-ie, Bag filte ort11:39
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Rashidtesting 1 2 3 >>>11:40
Rashid!rashid is cool :D11:40
Rashid!rashid11:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rashid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:40
Rashiddamn...oops was jus testing it :$11:40
dwidmann!botslap11:41
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Rashidlol11:41
dwidmann!botsmack11:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about botsmack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:41
brianwDoes anyone know how to resize the external taskbar? Currently it is 2 rows, I want it to be 1 row.11:42
guptabrianw: right-click > configure11:42
brianwgupta: did that11:42
brianwgupta: I do not see any option to resize it.11:42
Rashidright click configure11:43
froudSanne: perfect java solution, thanks11:43
Dr_willis'size tiny'11:43
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theflyingfoolhow do i register my user id11:43
fdoving!register | theflyingfool11:43
ubotutheflyingfool: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration11:43
Sannefroud: cool, glad it helped you! :)11:44
brianwI am talking baout the external taskbar, not kicker.11:44
Rashidbrianw one sec lemme try it11:44
brianwI have done it before, but for the life of me can not remember how.. heh11:45
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guptabrianw: right-click > configure > arrangement > size11:45
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brianwthat is for the kde panel though11:45
Rashidbrianw hmm it appears the external taskbar is directly linked to kicker...if you resize kicker the taskbar resizes11:45
brianwnot the external taskbar11:45
brianwRashid: not here,11:46
joshualcan anyone tell me how to get konqueror to display gmail fully?11:46
Rashidbrianw really? what happens when you resize kicker?11:46
brianwRashid: just the kde panel resizes11:46
Rashidjoshual try changing the identification11:46
Rashidbrianw did you do that in kcontrol or by right clicking the external bar?11:46
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joshualRashid: I've tried that, to what should it be set?11:46
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brianwRashid: right ckick external bar11:47
Rashidbrianw 25px is good11:47
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Rashidbrianw oops wrong person lol11:47
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Rashidjoshual mozilla?11:47
joshualyah its set to that already11:47
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Rashidbrianw: hmm thats odd...inconsistency with kde :S unless its a settin? howabout if you lock/unlock the panels? :S11:48
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Rashidjoshual one sec lemme try with konqueror...though personally i use firefox11:48
joshualthanks11:49
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Rashidjoshual what features cant you use?11:51
brianwIt is a bug in kicker11:51
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joshualRashid: got it... thx, I just set it to mozila 1.7x11:51
brianwi restarted kicker, and now in arrangement I can switch either panel or external taskbar to configure11:51
Rashidlol kk cool11:51
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slopwhat program should i use to burn a movie DVD from an mpeg/avi file?11:52
Biovoredose k3b do that?11:52
brianwI thought I was losing my mind. :)11:52
BiovoreI think you need transcode install though...11:52
Rashidyup11:52
slopBiovore: i just looked and all i saw was burn iso and burn data dvd11:52
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dwidmannIt won't be on that list, you'll have to jump into the menus for it11:54
dwidmannand if you don't see it there ... well, 1.0RC has it :)11:54
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towynchow do i copy files onto cd?12:02
malik__use k3b12:03
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towynci don't have k3b tho =(12:03
Dr_willisthen learn how to use cdrecord :)12:03
Dr_willisor install some other front end.12:03
malik__are u using gnome or kde?12:03
towynci'm using kde12:03
malik__install k3b12:03
lotusleafso install k3b12:03
towynccan i get cdrecord off of repos12:03
towynco12:03
towyncok12:03
towynchow do i install k3b? =)12:04
towyncfrom apt get install?12:04
malik__yes12:04
towynck12:04
Dr_willisKubuntu FUNdamentals12:04
Dr_willissudo apt-get install k3b12:04
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malik__sudo apt-get install k3b12:04
towynccool thx =)12:04
Dr_willisor use the GUI tools.12:04
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towyncwhat do i do after that =)12:04
towyncit says k3b already installed hehe12:05
Dr_willisRUn it...12:05
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towyncok12:05
lotusleafrun k3b then k3b setup once and then use k3b12:05
towyncah cool, i get it now, thx alot everyone =)12:05
Dr_willisdo we have to go to the ' place your right hand on the mouse... move it over to the left side... and down....  then click....' sort of tutorials? :)12:05
brianwheh12:06
towyncthat'd be nice =)12:06
towynclol12:06
towyncyeah i'm using it now so it's good.12:06
towyncthx12:06
brianwno, reomte vnc help :)12:06
towyncah that'd be even better =)12:06
Dr_willishttp://www.ubuntuvideo.com/     - wonder if theres  kubuntuvideo.com12:06
towyncthx =)12:06
lotusleafIn  Russia, right hand moves you12:06
towyncyeah i just started burning, everything workd out =)12:07
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Dr_willis     - wow my font has a hammer+sickle symbol....12:08
brianwhehe12:08
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cloakable:D12:09
cloakable12:09
cloakable:) Mine supports it o.o12:09
cntbmine sees too12:10
cntbpill12:10
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cntbwe need russian in linguistics12:10
cntbpill join # linguistics12:10
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Ace2016hey hey i just made something really cool12:12
Dr_willishttp://www.ubuntuvideo.com/ubuntu_powered_cat_feeder12:13
Ace2016i made a custom set of speakers which now accidently detect when my phone sends or recieves info,12:13
Dr_williscooler then that? :)12:13
Ace2016well i think thats what it does12:13

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