[12:13] <towync> yeah that channel is dead lol
[12:13] <upd-dapper2edgy> ask price----
[12:13] <Zamber> !beryl | tomsku
[12:13] <ubotu> tomsku: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[12:13] <towync> so panel bar still transparent =(((
[12:13] <Zamber> argh
[12:14] <towync> i'll go into a corner and cry now lol
[12:14] <upd-dapper2edgy> did you go to transparency and disable it in appearance?
[12:14] <towync> yes
[12:14] <Captain_Haddock> towync: I used http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/BerylOnEdgy and it worked like a breeze.
[12:14] <Zamber> towync do you have Option	    "Composite" "Disable" ?
[12:14] <towync> thx i'll sure check it out
[12:15] <Zamber> in your xorg.conf
[12:15] <towync> no i don't, but it looks for composite tho
[12:15] <towync> i had composite enable
[12:15] <towync> then i think i commented out the entire line
[12:15] <ernz> Hello, can someone please tell me how I could convert a 160MB MP4 into a 3GP that would work on my phone?
[12:15] <Captain_Haddock> towync: are you using the nvidia driver?
[12:16] <Zamber> towync DRI on?
[12:16] <butchart> gracias captain
[12:16] <towync> i'm pretty sure i'm using nvidia fx5900
[12:16] <towync> Zamber thx, but what's DRI?
[12:16] <Captain_Haddock> butchart: de nada
[12:16] <Zamber> !DRI
[12:16] <ubotu> dri is direct rendering infrastructure, a framework for allowing direct access to graphics hardware under the X Window System in a safe and efficient manner.
[12:16] <towync> how do i enable it tho
[12:16] <towync> should i google for it
[12:16] <Zamber> towync run glxinfo and check it
[12:16] <Zamber> line nr. 3
[12:17] <towync> cool
[12:17] <towync> just for fun, dri on google has a link to dirty rotten imbeciles lol
[12:17] <Captain_Haddock> towync: I recommending following that guide and saving yourself some time :)
[12:17] <towync> *checking*
[12:17] <Zamber> :D
[12:18] <towync> Captain_Haddock i followed that guide and others as well =) somehow beryl's not liking me for some reason,
[12:18] <Captain_Haddock> towync: ah :(
[12:18] <towync> Zamber, checking output for glxinfo, i put on a new background picture today and konsole is transparent to background and hard as heck to read
[12:18] <_fnord> how do i tell if glx is running?
[12:19] <Captain_Haddock> :P
[12:19] <_fnord> im on ubuntu 5.10
[12:19] <Captain_Haddock> _fnord: type glxgears
[12:19] <ernz> Anyone?
[12:19] <ernz> !3gp
[12:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3gp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:19] <towync> Zamber it says direct rendering on
[12:19] <Zamber> great
[12:20] <towync> Zamber yeah i know lol =)
[12:20] <Zamber> do you have xgl or aiglx ?
[12:20] <_fnord> Captain_Haddock: what now?the gears are there and moving as always,does that mean its on?less jumpy then when i was on kubuntu
[12:20] <towync> i know i don't have xgl, and i'm using kubuntu edgy so i'm assuming aiglx came with it, cuz when i try to run beryl, it says can't find xgl, and then it says attempting to start beryl without xgl, then freezes there
[12:21] <premier> hey, I swapped capslock and backspace on my computer but I have trouble making it perminant
[12:21] <_fnord> !beryl
[12:21] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[12:21] <Captain_Haddock> _fnord: that means you have opengl installed :) I thought that was your question :P
[12:22] <Zamber> towync make sure you have aiglx running (follow a tut) and then start playing with beryl ;)
[12:22] <Zamber> !aiglx
[12:22] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.
[12:22] <towync> Zamber could you tell me how to get aiglx running hehe, i'm a total newbie
[12:22] <_fnord> i want to try and get beryl up and running
[12:22] <_fnord> is what i sould of said
[12:22] <Zamber> towy just google ;) there are lots and lots of tuts out there ;)
[12:23] <towync> tuts = tutorial right
[12:23] <towync> just checking =)
[12:23] <Zamber> yep
[12:23] <towync> k, thx alot =)
[12:23] <Captain_Haddock> _fnord: I followed http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/BerylOnEdgy
[12:23] <Zamber> you're welcone ;)
[12:23] <Zamber> welcome ;)
[12:23] <Captain_Haddock> _fnord: and there's that dedicated channel linked above..
[12:23] <Zamber> I was trying to run aiglx myself
[12:23] <Zamber> but I have a ATI -_-
[12:23] <cntb> towync,  join #ubuntu-xgl must
[12:24] <Whopper> um
[12:25] <_fnord> thanks
[12:26] <towync> cntb that channel seems dead, everyone says to go there tho =)
[12:28] <_fnord> yeah xgls been dead alot today,but wait around and youll probly get an answer
[12:29] <upd-dapper2edgy> will  Upgrading using apt-get
[12:29] <upd-dapper2edgy> seems the only path available
[12:29] <upd-dapper2edgy> towync channel alive
[12:29] <upd-dapper2edgy> patience
[12:30] <_fnord> Captain_Haddock: im guesseing thats not the same procedure for seting it up on 5.10
[12:30] <upd-dapper2edgy> !patience
[12:30] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:31] <OOD> how do you search for packages with apt-get ?
[12:32] <OOD> nevermind, found out how (quick google :P)
[12:41] <upd-dapper2edgy> OOD, sudo apt-cache search
[12:45] <Ashex> I'm having issues getting kubuntu to boot up.
[12:45] <Ashex> Recently it began to randomly reboot while i was logged in. Now it freezes while kubuntu is loading
[12:46] <Ashex> and when it does load and I enter my login info, it reboots as soon as i'm logged in
[12:46] <Ashex> any ideas on what may be causing this?
[12:48] <premier> hey matthew__, you there?
[12:48] <premier> I swapped the capslock and backspace keys on my keyboard, but I cant make it perminant
[12:51] <zach_> hm...I just installed kubuntu on my pc cuz my xp pro messed itself up...what is this thing?
[12:51] <matthew__> I'm sorry, Matthew is not available right now. Please leave a message after the beep.
[12:54] <Whopper> zach_: an operating system
[12:56] <zach_> I know that its an os, I just was figuring out what konversation is...a chatroom appartently
[12:57] <thanos> hi guys
[12:57] <Blizzzek> zach_: it is an irc client...
[12:57] <matthew__> irc = internet relay chat
[12:57] <thanos> i think that kde is faster than gnome i have this feeling
 how long have you been using kubuntu?
[12:58] <_fnord> since i woke up yesterday morning,i think ive been useing it in my sleep telpathicly...
[01:00] <matthew__> Ok I'm back...
[01:02] <Whopper> zach_: about a month
[01:02] <Whopper> i switched from windows xp home
[01:03] <semsettin> hallo
[01:03] <Whopper> hey
[01:03] <semsettin> how are you
[01:03] <zach_> so, do you all have a bit of progamming experience then?
[01:03] <Whopper> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konversation
[01:03] <Whopper> well...
[01:04] <Whopper> i do KNOW some python, a just a bit of perl needed to configure irssi
[01:04] <semsettin> :)
[01:04] <Whopper> semsettin: good :)
[01:04] <Whopper> you?
[01:04] <semsettin> thanks
[01:04] <semsettin> me too
[01:05] <semsettin> ok se you later
[01:05] <semsettin> bye
[01:05] <zach_> I dont really know any programming languages, but I think I'm going to continue my networking minor
[01:06] <Whopper> ah
[01:06] <Whopper> zach_: there are good terminal programs you can help to do work on
[01:06] <premier> hey matthew__: I swapped capslock and backspace, but I cant make the changes perminant
[01:07] <matthew__> premier, let me look around, brb
[01:07] <zach_> cool, I'm going to work on all this stuff since I have a ton of free time on break right now and unfortunately no job
[01:08] <Whopper> ah
[01:08] <zach_> I had this urge to try and be like (a/s/l) like the little kids on aol used to do, haha
[01:08] <Whopper> so...
[01:08] <Whopper> :P
[01:08] <Whopper> did you use shipit?
[01:08] <premier> btw, I was thinking of rewriting the kclockapplet (the one on the right of the kicker) to do some cool things like show decimal time.  How is that done?
[01:10] <niblets> How can I get my iPod to work on kubuntu edgy?
[01:10] <niblets> A new xmas gift, and I cant use it D=
[01:10] <ForgeAus> hey all Merry Christmas!
[01:10] <cloakable> niblets: plug it in with amarok running :)
[01:10] <Whopper> any a happy new year :P
[01:10] <niblets> I have
[01:11] <ForgeAus> lol Whopper I usually say seasons greetingz and all that jazz
[01:11] <niblets> it didnt auto-run anything, if it was supposed to
[01:11] <cloakable> Ahhh
[01:11] <niblets> Does it have to be open, or can it be in suystem tray?
[01:11] <premier> yeah, in my experience, linux actually mounted it as a external hard drive.  I could even copy off the songs
[01:12] <dettoaltrimenti_> why in Konqueror when I look in the root directory I can't see /bin or any of those?
[01:12] <niblets> is there anyway to mount it?
[01:12] <matthew__> premier, the following command will open up your keymap...you might be able to change some of the keys...not too sure though...
[01:12] <matthew__> lkl -l -k /usr/share/lkl/keymaps/us_km -o log.txt
[01:13] <ForgeAus> well I managed to screw up my kubuntu, but I'm going to reinstall it
[01:14] <Whopper> :P
[01:14] <niblets> Damn this christmas
[01:14] <niblets> iPod = best gift ever = not usable
[01:14] <Whopper> :(
[01:14] <niblets> and windows doesnt have access to my 12gb music GAR
[01:14] <dettoaltrimenti_> niblets, I just installed an ipod shuffle on edgy
[01:14] <zach_> so if the ipod is used as an external hd according to this os, can I put all my music back on my computer w/o having to swap my hd into a windows computer and that jazz?
[01:14] <premier> wait, matthew, I got the key swap to work fine, I just want to make the changes perminant
[01:14] <dettoaltrimenti_> niblets- are you using amarok?
[01:14] <premier> how do you spell that word?
[01:15] <matthew__> premier, oh...ok...h/o
[01:15] <niblets> dettoaltrimenti_
[01:15] <niblets> Indeed
[01:15] <matthew__> premier, permanent
[01:15] <Whopper> zach_: I believe so
[01:15] <premier> okay
[01:15] <zach_> sweetness then
[01:15] <niblets> but when I go to media device, I dont know what to put for the mount and unmount commands
[01:15] <dettoaltrimenti_> you don't need to do that
[01:16] <premier> I was told that If i put a line in /home/premier/.XSession it will do it every boot, but it doesnt
[01:16] <dettoaltrimenti_> one sec
[01:16] <niblets> kk
[01:16] <matthew__> premier, I'm not finding anything...sorry
[01:16] <premier> I was told that If i put a line in /home/premier/.XSession it will do it every boot, but it doesnt
[01:17] <adz21c> Hi, I have got a firewall and connection sharing set up with Guarddog and Guidedog. All works fine, however when I reboot it stops work, yet as soon as I launch Guarddog and click apply everything works again. What could be causing this?
[01:19] <niblets> -tear-
[01:19] <dettoaltrimenti_> niblets- is your ipod connected to your computer? does it not show up in amarok's 'media device' tab?
[01:20] <niblets> It is connected, and it is charging, but on the media device tab, I see " configure your media device the click the 'connect' tab to access your media device
[01:20] <niblets> "
[01:20] <dettoaltrimenti_> under where it says 'connect, disconnect' and all that, there is a dropdown menu. Is there anything under that menu?
[01:21] <dropsl> hi there
[01:21] <niblets> it says no device available
[01:21] <niblets> I will unmount the iPod then connect it again
[01:21] <niblets> what is the unmount command?
[01:21] <dettoaltrimenti_> ok- go to settings-- configure amarok, then click on the tab 'media devices'
[01:22] <niblets> kk
[01:22] <dettoaltrimenti_> you don't need to worry about mounting or unmounting
[01:22] <niblets> add device? or autofind?
[01:22] <dettoaltrimenti_> try autofind
[01:22] <dropsl> suddenly, kpowersave said dbus is not running i should start it. but it is started. kpowersave does not show any options it is also greyed out in my systray :( i dont know how i can resolve this... may somebody help me? (i am using kubuntu 6.10) (also i have some problems with usb devices right now, they dont eject properly (die data gets lost))
[01:23] <dropsl> die = the
[01:24] <dropsl> sudo /etc/init.d/acpid start  says this: acpid: can't open /proc/acpi/event: Device or resource busy
[01:24] <niblets> any ideas what to do next?
[01:25] <dropsl> but "sudo lsof |grep "/proc/acpi/event""   says this: "hald-addo 2104  haldaemon    4r      REG        0,3        0 4026532122 /proc/acpi/event" does it help anyone to identify the problem?
[01:25] <dettoaltrimenti_> niblets, did it detect the ipod
[01:25] <niblets> nope
[01:25] <niblets> "No new media devices were found. If you feel this is an error, ensure that the DBUS and HAL daemons are running and KDE was built with support for them. You can test this by running "dcop kded mediamanager fullList" in a Konsole window."
[01:25] <niblets> is what I got
[01:26] <dettoaltrimenti_> dropsl- try ps -e | grep dbus, and kill the processes
[01:26] <dettoaltrimenti_> niblets- but your ipod is mounted? try unplugging it then plugging it back in
[01:27] <dropsl> dettoaltrimenti_: done
[01:27] <niblets> it says do not disconnect,
[01:27] <niblets> does it matter? its empty and brand new
[01:27] <dropsl> dettoaltrimenti_: should i restart it now?
[01:28] <dettoaltrimenti_> dropsl- yes
[01:28] <niblets> done
[01:28] <niblets> didnt come up with anything again. Should I konsole mount it?
[01:28] <niblets> actually, hang on
[01:28] <niblets> I'll try a port on the back
[01:29] <dettoaltrimenti_> I sent you a message, niblets
[01:29] <me_> ok
[01:29] <niblets> dettoaltrimenti_ what you mean?
[01:29] <dropsl> dettoaltrimenti_: it does not fix the problem :(
[01:29] <dettoaltrimenti_> niblets- if you're using konversation, look to the left and click on my name
[01:30] <me_> haaheey
[01:30] <niblets> I am using it, but it says my messages are blocked I think
[01:30] <niblets> Did you get mine?
[01:31] <niblets> Just let me register, will take but a momenr
[01:31] <dettoaltrimenti_> niblets no- Nickserv register (password) with a / before nickserv
[01:31] <dropsl> dettoaltrimenti_: it does still not work
[01:32] <niblets> I got your message, yes it is connected to the comp, but I dont know where it is mounted, I am a n00b to linux
[01:32] <dettoaltrimenti_> zdogde- did you try ctrl alt backspace, and it still doesn't work?
[01:32] <zdogde> dettoaltrimenti_: yes
[01:32] <dettoaltrimenti_> niblets- open konqueror, type in /media, if it's mounted it will be in that folder
[01:33] <zdogde> although knetworkmanager is working... the problem lies in acpid i think. it does not start....
[01:33] <nyapo> Bonsoir, ou Bonjour ^^ Joyeux noel
[01:34] <niblets> ohk
[01:34] <nyapo> quelqu'un pourrait m'apporter son aide?
[01:34] <dettoaltrimenti_> !fr
[01:34] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:34] <niblets> I got cdrom, hda1 and hdb2
[01:34] <dettoaltrimenti_> hmmm zdogde... is acpid not running? ps -e | grep acp
[01:35] <niblets> dettoaltrimenti_ I got Cdrom, HDA and HDB
[01:35] <dettoaltrimenti_> niblets ok you need to mount the ipod- does it show up on your desktop?
[01:35] <zdogde> dettoaltrimenti_: "   17 ?        00:00:00 kacpid" and " 2104 ?        00:00:00 hald-addon-acpi"
[01:35] <niblets> nope, I turned off desktop icons
[01:35] <dettoaltrimenti_> acpid is running zdogde
[01:35] <zdogde> dettoaltrimenti_: but why did kpowersave stopped working?
[01:37] <niblets> dettoaltrimenti_ It isnt, I turned off desktop icons, what is the mount command for it?
[01:37] <niblets> or, how do I mount it/
[01:37] <NyaPO> i have a bug with fglrx, there are OK in root mode, but not installer ( fglrxinfo ) in user mode, but i do as the documentation
[01:37] <dettoaltrimenti_> niblets look in konqueror- in /mnt, see if it's in there
[01:37] <niblets> samba and public
[01:37] <niblets> dettoaltrimenti_ samba and public
[01:39] <niblets>  dettoaltrimenti_ its not in there
[01:40] <carlos> hello
[01:40] <dettoaltrimenti_> niblets look in /dev
[01:40] <carlos> some one now about the kubuntu password
[01:40] <niblets> there is a lot, what would it be called? dettoaltrimenti_
[01:41] <carlos> wen i try to download the update need one password administrator
[01:41] <carlos> and a don't now the password
[01:41] <niblets> password should be your password for that user
[01:41] <niblets> carlos password should be your password for that use
[01:41] <carlos> i try but no work
[01:42] <carlos> i put the passwor is alondra
[01:42] <carlos> i can open session with this user: carlos pasword: alondra
[01:42] <carlos> but i can't download updates
[01:43] <niblets> carlos: then I don't know, I havent come across this problem before, so I can't help you, sorry
[01:43] <niblets> someone else should be able to
[01:43] <dettoaltrimenti_> niblets sorry I'm not the best with linux, trying to help- my ipod mounts automatically.... I can't remember where unmounted drives show up, besides the desktop
[01:43] <carlos> ok
[01:43] <carlos> i will find more khelp\
[01:44] <adz21c> Hi, I have got a firewall and connection sharing set up with Guarddog and Guidedog. All works fine, however when I reboot it stops work, yet as soon as I launch Guarddog and click apply everything works again. What could be causing this?
[01:44] <dettoaltrimenti_> carlos how are you downloading the update
[01:44] <niblets> dettoaltrimenti_ s'okay. any help is good. I can't find it, and windows cant access my music, just sucks a bit. I will try restarting session with it plugged in, see if it works
[01:44] <dettoaltrimenti_> in the terminal, or adept?
[01:45] <carlos> there are 60 update packages
[01:45] <carlos> in my kubuntu in the bar
[01:46] <carlos> when i try to open
[01:46] <niblets> didnt help D=
[01:46] <dettoaltrimenti_> niblets- look in /dev for ipod
[01:46] <carlos> to update o download the 60 updates files need put the password
[01:46] <niblets> kk
[01:47] <niblets> nope
[01:47] <niblets> not there
[01:47] <dettoaltrimenti_> carlos go to the k-menu and go to system----adept and start that.... does your password work to open adept?
[01:48] <carlos> Adept Updater
[01:48] <carlos> is the program
[01:49] <carlos> yessss
[01:49] <carlos> work
[01:49] <dettoaltrimenti_> carlos ok you should be able to update using that program
[01:49] <carlos> tank's
[01:49] <dettoaltrimenti_> be sure to click "fetch updates" before you update, carlos
[01:50] <carlos> ok
[01:50] <niblets> dettoaltrimenti_ thanks for the help, but its not in /media /dev or /mnt
[01:50] <dettoaltrimenti_> niblets- unmounted drives are somewhere in the /dev folder... if you can find which is the ipod you can do sudo mount /dev/ipod(or whatever it is) /media/ipod
[01:50] <dettoaltrimenti_> niblets it may be called sdc or sdb or usbdrive or something like that
[01:51] <matthias> hi, my gnome is not the standard start and login screen, after installing kubuntu, kubuntu is it. how can I set gnome as standard login theme again?
[01:51] <niblets> ohk, will look again
[01:51] <niblets> apart from the name, should there be anything inside that gives it away?
[01:52] <dettoaltrimenti_> niblets not that I see, I'll check around though
[01:52] <soulrider> hi
[01:52] <soulrider> has anyone here ever set up a TV ?
[01:53] <niblets> inside "bus" there was "usb" would that be it?
[01:54] <niblets> nvm, it isnt
[01:56] <niblets> dettoaltrimenti_ Nothing I can find that would be it
[01:56] <dettoaltrimenti_> niblets- if you have a windows machine, try installing it in windows and it will reformat the drive, and then try it in linux
[01:57] <dettoaltrimenti_> niblets- because kubuntu should automatically recognize it
[01:57] <niblets> so log in on window? then get it workuing,thenb ack to linux to put music on it?
[01:57] <dettoaltrimenti_> yeah
[01:57] <dettoaltrimenti_> that's what I did, and it worked with no problems
[01:57] <niblets> kk, be back in 20
[01:58] <dettoaltrimenti_> maybe it comes set up for mac
[02:00] <_fnord> how do i uninstall cups?
[02:00] <_fnord> sudo apt-get.....
[02:01] <dettoaltrimenti_> _fnord just use adept
[02:02] <carlos> hi i try to install one web camara usb but no work
[02:02] <carlos> kubuntu is plug an play
[02:02] <dettoaltrimenti_> carlos are you spanish
[02:02] <carlos> yes
[02:02] <dettoaltrimenti_> !es
[02:02] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[02:02] <carlos> si
[02:03] <carlos> gracias
[02:03] <dettoaltrimenti_> si es mejor por ti... de nada
[02:10] <soulrider> anyone here ?
[02:16] <hackeron_> hey, when I try to apt-get install kdebase-dev I get kdebase-dev: Depends: kdelibs4-dev (>= 4:3.5.3) but it is not going to be installed -- any ideas?
[02:17] <adz21c> Hi, I have got a firewall and connection sharing set up with Guarddog and Guidedog. All works fine, however when I reboot it stops work, yet as soon as I launch Guarddog and click apply everything works again. What could be causing this?
[02:18] <adz21c> when i say it stops working i mean connection sharing
[02:18] <bbt> how do i force the removal of a package via dpkg? i got one that just will not remove with adept
[02:19] <hackeron_> adz21c: to share your internet connection, you generally need to things, ipforward=1 in /proc (see sysctl -a), and ipconfig set to ipmasquerading and that's what guarddog sets when you start it
[02:19] <hackeron_> adz21c: s/to/two*
[02:20] <adz21c> hackeron_: i was under the impression that i shouldn't need to do this each time PC starts, it sets it all up for boot
[02:22] <|lostbyte|> Hi :) Guys..
[02:24] <hackeron_> adz21c: you can make it start on boot - you could for example put ipforward=1 in /etc/sysctl.conf and iptables -A nat -t tcp -j MASQ (not sure about the iptables command, google it) in /etc/rc.local -- or use some method to get guardog started when KDE starts -- ask the guarddog people
[02:25] <adz21c> hackeron_: no i know that ... i mean i was under the impression that guarddog and guidedog set up all the files to it runs all the appropriate iptables commands
[02:26] <endo602> Good Evening.  Happy Holidays.  How can i turn my user account into root?
[02:28] <hackeron_> adz21c: don't know what to tell you, I personally use shorewall (no fancy gui but relatively easy to work with), I also don't like a gui because you generally need to be logged in for it to do it's magic and it doesn't really do it on boot
[02:28] <brianw> is there a cd label anywhere for kubuntu-6.10 ?
[02:29] <brianw> I want to tyr my lacie lightscribe software
[02:29] <adz21c> hackeron_: u don't need to be logged in for guarddog ... its just executes a load of iptable commands thats it it shouldn't need to run again unless you want to make rule changes .... i was also under the impression though that it would create some scripts to be run at system boot to handle this, but either something else is interfearing or it doesn't
[02:31] <endo602> How do i make it so that my user account has root access?
[02:32] <hackeron_> adz21c: there's no standard in linux for where to put those commands to start on boot, maybe they were put in /etc/local.start or /etc/conf.d/local.start or /dev/default/rc.local, etc instead of /etc/rc.local?
[02:32] <apokryphos> endo602: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[02:33] <endo602> apokryphos, thanks
[02:33] <adz21c> hackeron_: well there is an /etc/rc.firewall file which seems to contain the rules and /etc/rcS.d/S65guarddog if that makes any sense to u?
[02:34] <adz21c> hackeron_: is S65guarddog a service type thing?
[02:34] <hackeron_> adz21c: yeah, link /etc/rcS.d/S65guarddog to every runlevel
[02:35] <Murrlin> how would I fix a stuck app, without deleting its config file?
[02:35] <brianw> I wonder why distro makers do not release cd label images w/ their releases...
[02:35] <hackeron_> adz21c: i.e. ln -s /etc/rcS.d/S65guarddog /etc/rc1.d/S65guarddog -- then replace the 1 with 2, then 3.. up to 5
[02:36] <adz21c> hackeron_: i notice under system settings -> services it has guarddog, i assume by setting that to start at boot it puts it on the appropriate run levels?
[02:36] <hackeron_> adz21c: yeah, or you can do that :)
[02:36] <adz21c> hackeron_: oh ok got ya
[02:36] <adz21c> hackeron_: so does the number in the rc's represent the run level number?
[02:40] <brianw> Any one w/ any decent gimp skill care to make a quick reproduction of this: http://www.thelinuxstore.ca/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1113
[02:40] <brianw> heh
[02:41] <hackeron_> adz21c: yep
[02:41] <adz21c> hackeron_: always wondered what the numbers were bout lol kinda obvious lol
[02:42] <hackeron_> adz21c: :)
[02:42] <adz21c> hackeron_: cheers for the help
[02:43] <hackeron_> any time
[02:43] <hackeron_> ok, ktorrent compiled, I'm off to sleep, night night everyone!
[02:43] <adz21c> g'night
[02:47] <dwassem> hey guys
[02:47] <Search4Lancer> how can I do automatic file uploads at given intervals?
[02:47] <dwassem> is this a good place to ask a question? :)
[02:47] <Search4Lancer> say... every 10 minutes, for a channel stats file
[02:48] <Xubuntian> guys, i have a little problem.. I have to configure my daddy's new printer for tomorrow, but i need to update the system in order to make it work. However, when i plugged the network card in the PCMCIA nothing happened..
[02:48] <Xubuntian> in my laptop instead, as soon as i plug it in, it start working immediatly
[02:49] <dwassem> whats the XGL channel?, got a question
[02:50] <lupine_85> #ubuntu-xgl
[02:50] <dwassem> ah got it #ubuntu-xgl
[02:56] <ultrakiller> ciao a tutti
[02:57] <lupine_85> ciao
[02:57] <lupine_85> !it
[02:57] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:58] <ultrakiller> excuse me
[03:08] <Thehound666> being a fan of the Bit Torrent protocol, I was curious as to how you guys keep so many people seeding on the distro downloads when you don't track ratio
[03:09] <lupine_85> Thehound666: we're all altruistic :op
[03:09] <max_> Hi, I have a problem. I restarted my computer and after i rebooted i dont have sound anymore. Can someone help?
[03:10] <Thehound666> I guess so. for the record, I did my first .iso that way and seeded it 1:1
[03:10] <Thehound666> <--doesn't like leechers, thus wouldn't be one
[03:13] <makuseru> Hi, I have a problem. I restarted my computer and after i rebooted i dont have sound anymore. Can someone help?
[03:16] <Thehound666> did the live CD and the initial install do ok for sound?
[03:17] <Search4Lancer> how can I do automatic file uploads at given intervals?
[03:17] <lupine_85> Search4Lancer: scp or sftp + cron ?
[03:18] <lupine_85> (or + sleep of course :) )
[03:18] <niblets> worked on windows, dettoaltrimenti_
[03:18] <Thehound666> try the obvious maybe. Try system settings->Sound system, then the hardware tab.
[03:19] <Search4Lancer> lupine_85: I have no idea what you just said ;-) it's for a channel stats page, the stats program is cronning every 10 minutes, and outputs to a file in a folder on my desktop... I'd like something to automatically upload that every 10 minutes
[03:19] <Thehound666> make sure it's set to autodetect
[03:19] <makuseru> it is
[03:19] <Captain_Redbeard> makuseru: type: groups yourusername
[03:19] <Captain_Redbeard> makuseru: and check if you are in a group called "audio"
[03:20] <makuseru> yes
[03:20] <makuseru> it just stopped working
[03:20] <lupine_85> Search4Lancer: so you've already got the cronjob
[03:20] <Captain_Redbeard> makuseru: so are you?
[03:20] <makuseru> i was palying a video and it stopped
[03:20] <lupine_85> change it to execute a script that looks a little bit like...
[03:20] <makuseru> i said yes
[03:20] <Search4Lancer> lupine_85: for running the stats program, yes
[03:21] <lupine_85> #!/bin/sh \n do_that_stats_program \n sftp -b - < "commands_to_be_fed_to_sftp" \n exit 0
[03:21] <lupine_85> \n == newline
[03:22] <Search4Lancer> now you've just confused the heck out of me
[03:22] <lupine_85> sftp lets you upload stuff via. ssh; -b is batch mode;  "commands_to_be_fed_to_sftp" will be something like "cd somewhere; put file"
[03:22] <niblets> anyone know how to get iPod working with Amarok?
[03:22] <lupine_85> Search4Lancer: I'm not entirely sure how to make it any simpler
[03:23] <Captain_Redbeard> niblets: what is it that doesn't work?
[03:23] <niblets> doesn't find the iPod
[03:23] <niblets> the comp doesnt
[03:23] <Search4Lancer> let's say the ftp username is username, and the password is password, and the server is ftp.4lancer.net, and the target file is /public_html/stats/index.html ..... what would that look like?
[03:23] <Captain_Redbeard> niblets: settings -> configure -> media devices
[03:23] <niblets> done that
[03:23] <niblets> couldnt find it
[03:23] <lupine_85> for a start, you wouldn't use password authentication for a cronjob. that would be silly
[03:23] <Thehound666> they do that to all (K)ubuntu newbies I think(know first hand) but they do get things done, I thought my mouse issue today would stump them as alot of forums seemed to have no answers
[03:23] <niblets> I don;t know the mount point
[03:23] <Thehound666> solved it in 10 minutes
[03:23] <Captain_Redbeard> niblets: does it automount when you plug it in?
[03:24] <Search4Lancer> well then we wouldn't be able to connect to the server
[03:24] <niblets> nope
[03:24] <lupine_85> Use public-key authentication instead; then you don't need to feed it a username or password
[03:24] <lupine_85> if you don't, then while the cronjob is running your password will be visible to everyone using the client PC...
[03:24] <Captain_Redbeard> niblets: hrmz... and if you try to mount it manually?
[03:24] <niblets> I dont know how
[03:25] <Search4Lancer> I'm the only one that uses this laptop... nobody else is allowed.... it's heavily protected ;-)
[03:25] <Captain_Redbeard> niblets: type: sudo mount
[03:25] <Captain_Redbeard> niblets: and paste me  the output in a private query
[03:25] <makuseru> well, i restarted and my sound is fine now
[03:25] <niblets> there is about 12 lines
[03:26] <Captain_Redbeard> niblets: that's why you should paste it to me in a private query ;)
[03:26] <makuseru> !pastebin | niblets\
[03:26] <ubotu> niblets\: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:26] <makuseru> !pastebin | niblets
[03:26] <ubotu> niblets: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:26] <niblets> I cant
[03:26] <niblets> not registered
[03:27] <lupine_85> Search4Lancer: then you'd put the username & password separated by newlines at the start of -b. I think.
[03:27] <makuseru> !pastebin | niblets
[03:27] <niblets> ohk ohk
[03:27] <lupine_85> I'v enever used password-based authentication with sftp so I'm not sure if that'd work
[03:27] <niblets> I get it
[03:27] <Captain_Redbeard> niblets: well either use a pastebin or query it to me...
[03:27] <niblets> hang on, christmas meal, will paste it and then come on again later.
[03:28] <Captain_Redbeard> niblets: I will probably be off by then.. but good luck
[03:28] <niblets> cheers
[03:29] <niblets> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38728/
[03:29] <makuseru> is there anyway to add free space on a drive to another partition
[03:29] <Captain_Redbeard> makuseru: various partition managers....
[03:29] <lupine_85> makuseru: ntfsresize, ext2resize, etc...
[03:29] <lupine_85> quite a delicate operation though
[03:30] <Captain_Redbeard> makuseru: if you want something with a GUI there is one called portos
[03:30] <makuseru> would i be able to keep my root partition? or would i have to wipe it clean
[03:31] <triki> anyone here get bluetooth working ?
[03:31] <triki> i can copy from my phone to my laptop, but no the other way around ?
[03:31] <_fnord> makuseru: livecd + gparted
[03:32] <makuseru> fnord: i dont want to get rid of anything, im just trying to merge them
[03:32] <flaccid_> _fnord: qtparted
[03:32] <makuseru> fnord: because i dont want to loose all my music and settings
[03:33] <triki> !bluetooth
[03:33] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[03:34] <xenol> plz can someone tell me how cna i change icon of single file?
[03:34] <Thehound666> The Kubuntu manual partition creator lets you size all the partitions manually and resize them while keeping your data. I had Partition Magic on standby to resize them, but it turned out I never needed it
[03:34] <Captain_Redbeard> Hmm... does anyone here have experience with the grub conf file? I want to get rid of the white frame that surrounds the options in the grub menu on boot...
[03:35] <karmikaze> xenol: right click the icon, do properties, then click the icon in properties to change it
[03:35] <Thehound666> never played with grub yet.
[03:36] <Thehound666> I used NTLoader for my dual boot because I know what I was doing with Windows
[03:36] <Thehound666> :)
[03:36] <flaccid_> grub manual, #grub, google
[03:36] <flaccid_> all you need
[03:36] <Captain_Redbeard> flaccid_: tried it all
[03:37] <xenol> karmikaze ty
[03:37] <Captain_Redbeard> flaccid_: not sure it's even possible without frambuffer support
[03:37] <Thehound666> don't need to play with it myself, seems like Redbeard wants to eliminate a cosmetic annoyance
[03:37] <flaccid_> i think it is. but yeah probably using framebuffer
[03:38] <Captain_Redbeard> flaccid_: bah so I guess I'm in for a "pimp my grub" session of some good 5 hours now then :p
[03:38] <prak> when i opened wireless assistant wireless lan manager in kubuntu, it gives me an error message saying "su returned with an error"
[03:39] <prak> does anyone know if that problem can be fixed by reinstalling that program?
[03:39] <xenol> karmikaze and how can i change target of folder?
[03:39] <karmikaze> target?
[03:40] <karmikaze> you mean where it links to?
[03:40] <xenol> yeah
[03:40] <karmikaze> something on your desktop?
[03:40] <xenol> y
[03:41] <flaccid_> Captain_Redbeard: heheh sounds bout right
[03:41] <karmikaze> well for a desktop icon id just drag the right one onto the desktop
[03:41] <karmikaze> there is a command to make a link
[03:41] <karmikaze> ln -s /whateverdir/youwant /home/yourusername/Desktop
[03:41] <karmikaze> thatll make a new link
[03:41] <xenol> karmikaze thx i just now got a perfect idea :P
[03:41] <karmikaze> ok
[03:41] <karmikaze> heh
[03:44] <karmikaze> mmm corona
[03:44] <flaccid_> nice
[03:44] <xenol> karmiakze can u post screen of ur desktop (ofc if u can)
[03:45] <DyF|heliopolix> I've taken the plunge and am attempting to become more familiar with Linux, specifically Kubuntu. I figure this is as good a place as any to get flamed properly so i can move past my n00b status and actually learn some stuff.
[03:46] <flaccid_> sweet as heliopolix
[03:47] <Captain_Redbeard> hmm further on then... anyone knowing anything useful about grub2? if it's usable and so forth...
[03:47] <xenol> grub2?
[03:48] <flaccid_> yeah grub is now legacy
[03:48] <prak> does anyone encounter an error with using sudo before?
[03:48] <flaccid_> but yeah i don't know how stable grub2 is
[03:48] <heliopolix> anyways, what Im attempting to do is get this belkin usb key to work with the install of dapper drake im running. I found a fairly detailed explanation, but all the commands mean jack shit to me. anyone willing to help me out
[03:48] <Captain_Redbeard> flaccid_: do you have any experience with it?
[03:48] <flaccid_> heliopolix: learn the commands :)
[03:48] <flaccid_> Captain_Redbeard: none sorry
[03:48] <flaccid_> but i'd try it in your situation
[03:48] <xenol> so grub is usable only it  can be unstable?
[03:49] <flaccid_> heliopolix: if its a usb drive (mass storage), kubuntu supports natively
[03:49] <Captain_Redbeard> flaccid_: ofc! :D i'm on a spree here... so I guess I will have to fuck my system up before I'm done ;) it seems fairly stable though... version 1.95
[03:49] <flaccid_> xenol: no grub2 might be unstable, grub(1) should be pretty damn stable
[03:49] <heliopolix> er, forgot to be more specific. usb wireless key, for networking
[03:50] <heliopolix> and i suppose i need to find a channel more on my level. basic commands escape me at this point
[03:50] <xenol> any ETA when GRUB2 will be released?
[03:50] <flaccid_> heliopolix: on you mean wireless usb adaptor. belkin are bad for that, particularly on linux. read the howtos
[03:50] <flaccid_> heliopolix: why do basic commands escape you? we can help to make you understand and execute the commands
[03:50] <Captain_Redbeard> xenol: the website says november - but I highly doubt it ;))
[03:51] <Captain_Redbeard> http://grub.enbug.org/
[03:51] <xenol> november 2007?
[03:51] <xenol> or 2006
[03:51] <Search4Lancer> alright, I tried this (after perusing the wget manual) and in the console it appears to work, but when I try to access the file online, it's still an old version:
[03:51] <Search4Lancer> wget --post-file /home/redphoenix/Desktop/ircstat/index.html ftp://username:password@ftp.4lancer.net/public_html/stats/index.html
[03:51] <xenol> well 2006 is impossible :D
[03:52] <Captain_Redbeard> exactly ;) it does, however, state 06...
[03:52] <Captain_Redbeard> Hmm
[03:52] <Captain_Redbeard> it supports multiboot... thus you can boot grub2 from grub legacy just to try it... awesome
[03:52] <heliopolix> heh, i've sort of figured out how to use sudo to try to run things as the local admin. I've been trying to follow the directions here : http://opensource.bureau-cornavin.com/belkin/index.html, but i'm missing something
[03:53] <flaccid_> that sounds good cap'n
[03:54] <heliopolix> i downloaded the drivers, and have been trying to get them to compile, but cant get the syntax right
[03:54] <flaccid_> heliopolix: are you using your password and not the root password when doing sudo command
[03:54] <flaccid_> heliopolix: pastebin the error
[03:55] <heliopolix> in the Konsole, I use the sudo -s command, and input the password, and the promt changes to 'root@' so i think im doing it right
[03:56] <towync> how do i get rid off kmenu button and the panel bar that displays the kmenu button
[03:56] <towync> and replace it with mac style tool bar at bottom of screen
[03:57] <towync> i know kxdocker doesn't work for me, so i tried kooldock, how do i make comp start with kooldock and no normal bottom panel
[03:57] <flaccid_> heliopolix: don't use -s
[03:57] <flaccid_> for eg. sudo updatedb
[03:58] <prak> does anyone encounter an error with using su before?
[03:58] <prak> does anyone encounter an error with using su or sudo before?
[03:58] <flaccid_> towync: try asking in #kde
[03:58] <flaccid_> prak nope why
[03:59] <towync> is that a channel or do u need ubuntu before it
[03:59] <prak> flaccid_, su is giving me an error saying that something is wrong with sudoer
[03:59] <flaccid_> its a channel towync
[04:00] <Search4Lancer> anybody, I'm having wget problems...
[04:00] <flaccid_> prak: what is the error
[04:00] <towync> by the way how do i make my own wallpaper and stuff, i don't like other peoples that i find online =)
[04:00] <thoreauputic> !sudo | prak
[04:00] <ubotu> prak: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:00] <towync> flaccid_ do you need #ubuntu before typing kde?
[04:00] <flaccid_> !gimp > towync
[04:00] <flaccid_> towync: no
[04:00] <towync> !gimp | towync
[04:00] <ubotu> towync: An advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[04:00] <prak> flaccid_, for example, when i typed "sudo apt-get update", terminal gives me "sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers
[04:00] <prak> near line 0
[04:00] <towync> ughhhh more tutorials to read... lol
[04:00] <thoreauputic> prak: have you edited /etc/sudoers?
[04:00] <flaccid_> prak: pastebin your /etc/sudoers
[04:01] <_fnord> is there a all in one theme program,like windowblinds?
[04:01] <Captain_Redbeard>  http://grub.enbug.org/gfxterm
[04:01] <Captain_Redbeard> W000t!!
[04:01] <_fnord> Captain_Redbeard: is that for me?
[04:01] <prak> thoreauputic: i haven't edited /etc/sudoers to my knowledge
[04:02] <flaccid_> w0a ruby Captain_Redbeard interesting
[04:02] <_fnord> postbin it anyways,thats whats causeing the error
[04:02] <towync> does kxdocker work with edgy?
[04:02] <Captain_Redbeard> looks really sweet to be honest...
[04:02] <flaccid_> towync: yep
[04:02] <thoreauputic> prak: pastebin it as flaccid_ suggests
[04:02] <prak> thoreauputic: how do i pastebin my /etc/sudoers?
[04:02] <thoreauputic> !paste
[04:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:02] <prak> thoreauputic: is there another site?
[04:02] <Captain_Redbeard> the documentation on grub2 is very sporadical though
[04:03] <_fnord> you can also use #flood
[04:03] <thoreauputic> prak: there are lots of pastebin sites - we normally use that one
[04:03] <flaccid_> towync: although i'm on edgy and i'm didn't load just then when i tried
[04:03] <prak> thoreauputic: sudoers file is empty
[04:03] <thoreauputic> prak: :(
[04:03] <prak> thoreauputic: i'm not sure what caused it
[04:04] <_fnord> lol that might have something to do with  me thinks...
[04:04] <thoreauputic> prak: are you certain that it is empty?
[04:04] <prak> it is empty
[04:04] <prak> thoreauputic
[04:05] <_fnord> wierd
[04:05] <thoreauputic> prak:  you have a ctach 22 then - you can't edit it without sudo or root rights - you will have to use the recovery mode to get a root prompt
[04:05] <thoreauputic> *catch 22
[04:05] <prak> ok
[04:05] <prak> thoreauputic: and then edit that file?
[04:05] <flaccid_> prak: reinstall sudo package
[04:05] <thoreauputic> prak: use "visudo" to edit it
[04:06] <thoreauputic> ah yes -= flaccid's idea is way easier
[04:06] <towync> flaccid_ so did kxdocker work on ur edgy?
[04:06] <heliopolix> the problem occurs when i try to run the 'make' command. the error is "bash: make: command not found"
[04:06] <prak> flaccid_, do i reinstall sudo package in recovery mode?
[04:06] <flaccid_> towync: no but it could be my problem
[04:06] <_fnord> thoreauputic: whats your name mean>?
[04:06] <flaccid_> prak: did you ever set a root password?
[04:06] <towync> flaccid_ cool, did u tell me to go to kde channel earlier =)
[04:06] <thoreauputic> prak: so boot to recovey/rescue . apt-get install sudo
[04:06] <thoreauputic> !sudo
[04:06] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:06] <flaccid_> towync: probably
[04:06] <thoreauputic> bah
[04:06] <towync> flaccid_ someone did, and now someone in kde channel refers me back here lol
[04:06] <thoreauputic> !info sudo
[04:06] <ubotu> sudo: Provide limited super user privileges to specific users. In component main, is important. Version 1.6.8p12-4ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 161 kB, installed size 396 kB
[04:07] <thoreauputic> OK it has its own package
[04:07] <towync> !gentoo
[04:07] <ubotu> Other !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)
[04:07] <prak> thoreauptic, ok
[04:07] <flaccid_> towync: well you should be able to disable the panel regardless of distro..
[04:07] <thoreauputic> prak: wait
[04:07] <towync> what's the relationship between debian and kde, i know kde uses debian
[04:07] <flaccid_> towync: no real relationship
[04:07] <towync> flaccid_ cool
[04:07] <thoreauputic> too late, I wanted to see if it was already installed...
[04:07] <_fnord> kde is based on deb i think
[04:08] <flaccid_> _fnord: negative
[04:08] <triki> huh
[04:08] <triki> debian is debian
[04:08] <towync> flaccid_ i guess my real question is what's debian =)
[04:08] <triki> kde is and gnome and desktop guis
[04:08] <Search4Lancer> guess it doesn't hurt to ask again.... does anybody know how to do regularly scheduled FTP uploads, or a program that does it?
[04:08] <_fnord> was it suse that im thinking of?
[04:08] <flaccid_> debian is a linux system
[04:08] <triki> debian is a distro
[04:08] <flaccid_> and also a distro
[04:08] <flaccid_> "the debian system" they call it
[04:08] <thoreauputic> Search4Lancer: make a cron job to do it?
[04:08] <flaccid_> brb
[04:08] <triki> like gentoo, fedora core, slackware and so on
[04:09] <towync> so kubuntu is kde that's debian, and ubuntu is genome that's rpb?
[04:09] <triki> kubuntu is ubuntu with kde
[04:09] <triki> instead of ubuntu with gnome
[04:09] <towync> and kde is always deb?
[04:09] <Search4Lancer> thoreauputic: I've been trying, but I can't get the wget command to work right. I mean, it looks like it works correctly in the console, but the new file never shows up on the server
[04:09] <triki> xubuntu uses a lighter desktop environment
[04:09] <towync> and gnome is always rpm or something
[04:09] <towync> there's two right, deb and somtehing else
[04:09] <triki> same backend just different interface
[04:09] <thoreauputic> Search4Lancer: wget is really a download tool - use ftp or lftp
[04:09] <towync> !backend
[04:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about backend - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:10] <towync> !frontend
[04:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about frontend - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:10] <towync> oops
[04:10] <triki> !gui
[04:10] <ubotu> The graphical user interface (GUI) in Ubuntu is composed of many elements, including the !X server, a window manager, and a desktop environment such as !GNOME or !KDE (which themselves use the !GTK and !Qt toolkits respectively)
[04:10] <towync> what's a backend and frontend
[04:10] <triki> !de
[04:10] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:10] <triki> !kde
[04:10] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[04:10] <towync> !gnome
[04:10] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[04:10] <towync> !deb
[04:10] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[04:10] <towync> ah package format
[04:10] <towync> what's the other one besides deb
[04:10] <triki> ubuntu is based on debian also
[04:11] <triki> hense the use of the deb packages
[04:11] <towync> there's something equivalent to deb right
[04:11] <lupine_85> rpm
[04:11] <Search4Lancer> thoreauputic: okay... I've never used ftp from command line before... how do I do it and how would I do it as a cronjob?
[04:11] <lupine_85> lots of other formats as well
[04:11] <towync> cool
[04:11] <triki> rpm is a redhat thing
[04:11] <towync> ic
[04:11] <lupine_85> deb > rpm
[04:11] <towync> cool
[04:11] <triki> like yum is for fedora
[04:11] <leviatan> hi everyone I need hel with my grub, I've installe kubuntu in my hd1 but in my hd0 I had ubuntu with genome but now when my pc stars an error appears: problem with so
[04:11] <towync> ah ha, so that's what yum is lol
[04:11] <triki> swaret for slack
[04:11] <leviatan> someone could help me?
[04:11] <towync> what's a backend
[04:11] <leviatan> plz?
[04:12] <towync> we'll try leviatan =)
[04:12] <towync> what's ur question
[04:12] <thoreauputic> Search4Lancer: heh - that's a whole howto - but basically , say lftp user@host , log in do your stuff - get to download, "put" to upload
[04:12] <towync> i'm a new linux user myself, but i'm sure other people can help
[04:12] <flaccid_> towync: kde is available in many package formats as well as source
[04:12] <triki> what i meant by backend, was the same services were running on ubuntu, kubuntu, just diffnerent user interfaces
[04:12] <thoreauputic> Search4Lancer: you need to read about ftp a bit I think
[04:12] <flaccid_> linux and unix
[04:13] <towync> flaccid_ cool thx =)
[04:13] <Search4Lancer> bah... where's the fun in that? :-D
[04:13] <thoreauputic> Search4Lancer: I suggest lftp - it is a better prog than straight ftp
[04:13] <towync> triki thx
[04:13] <triki> np
[04:13] <unix_infidel> Search4Lancer: you need cli ftp?
[04:13] <flaccid_> kubuntu just have different desktop environments and default applications/packages from the ubuntu repos
[04:13] <flaccid_> np
[04:13] <Search4Lancer> unix_infidel: say what now?
[04:13] <thoreauputic> Search4Lancer: have a look at the manual - man lftp ( you will probably need to install it)
[04:13] <flaccid_> ^^ kubuntu and ubuntu  jusst have..
[04:13] <thoreauputic> !info lftp
[04:13] <ubotu> lftp: Sophisticated command-line FTP/HTTP client programs. In component main, is optional. Version 3.5.0-1 (edgy), package size 349 kB, installed size 1364 kB
[04:13] <towync> oo, do u guys know a better place than kde-look to look for great wall papers? i don't like the hundreds that i've seen so far, and don't really wanna read a whole gimp tutorial to make my own lol
[04:14] <triki> www.devianart.com
[04:14] <karmikaze> towync: deviantart.com
[04:14] <unix_infidel> Search4Lancer: cli ftp means you'd use it within Konsole, you can also use a GUI ftp client like filezilla, smartftp, cuteftp etc etc
[04:14] <triki> www.deviantart.com
[04:14] <thoreauputic> Search4Lancer: do you have ssh access?  scp is much eaaierfor this kind of thing
[04:14] <flaccid_> devianart ist good
[04:14] <towync> karmikaze thx so much =)
[04:14] <karmikaze> its got some stuff
[04:14] <unix_infidel> Search4Lancer: konqueror can also do ftp similar to windows explorer.
[04:14] <towync> karmikaze cool, i'm checking it out
[04:14] <towync> thx triki too =)
[04:14] <Search4Lancer> unix_infidel: what I need is automated uploads every 10 minutes
[04:14] <leviatan> ok thanks my question y what can I do for fix that error, because I have to insert the cd live
[04:14] <karmikaze> its as hit or miss as kdelook anyway
[04:14] <thoreauputic> unix_infidel: he wants to have regi=ular uploads ( cron)
[04:14] <unix_infidel> if you are looking to communicate b/w a windows box and a linux box, winscp is a good windows client and is much easier connectivity.
[04:14] <thoreauputic> *regular
[04:15] <leviatan> to enter to the grub menu
[04:15] <unix_infidel> Search4Lancer: then wouldnt make sense to have a permanent network socket established?
[04:15] <unix_infidel> using samba or NFS?
[04:15] <towync> !grub
[04:15] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:15] <Search4Lancer> if I had the slightest idea what that was, maybe
[04:15] <thoreauputic> unix_infidel: umm - nfs or samba over the Net? Not a Good Thing (tm)
[04:16] <unix_infidel> thoreauputic: i didnt know that this was internet connectivity.
[04:16] <thoreauputic> Search4Lancer: is this a local LAN thing or a server "out there" ?
[04:16] <towync> leviatan what was ur question, i scrolled up a little, but i only saw u stating something about inserting live cd
[04:16] <Search4Lancer> thoreauputic: "out there"
[04:16] <unix_infidel> Search4Lancer: what are you trying to sync up exactly?
[04:16] <thoreauputic> Search4Lancer: ssh/scp is a better idea if the server supports it
[04:17] <unix_infidel> maybe rsync is for you?
[04:17] <lupine_85> sftp -b ftw, but never mind :)
[04:17] <Search4Lancer> unix_infidel: channel stats - see http://stats.4lancer.net
[04:17] <thoreauputic> lupine_85: yes, or sftp - but scp is fine too
[04:17] <towync> that stuff is deviant alright lol
[04:18] <triki> filezilla + sftp
[04:18] <leviatan> the problem is that I had ubuntu in my hd0 and I have installed kubuntu in my hd1 but there is a problem with the grub that I need to insert the live cd to star a operative system (ubuntu, kubuntu or windows)
[04:18] <triki> that cool stuff too !!!
[04:18] <triki> sshfs
[04:19] <thoreauputic> triki: he wants to do it automatically every ten minutes
[04:19] <ubuntu> !grub
[04:19] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:19] <triki> thoreauputic: ?? what's going on ?
[04:19] <ubuntu> !botsnack
[04:19] <ubotu> Yum!
[04:19] <niblets> Captain_Redbeard did you get a chance to look at the pastebin?
[04:20] <thoreauputic> triki: never mind - go back to sleep :)
[04:20] <triki> sure
[04:20] <lupine_85> Search4Lancer: any reason why the stats can't be generated on the server...?
[04:21] <Search4Lancer> lupine_85: I'd love to, but I don't have that kind of access, to run the bot and the stats program on the server
[04:21] <Captain_Redbeard> niblets: nope sorry
[04:21] <Search4Lancer> it's not mine ;-)
[04:21] <niblets> Could you still now?
[04:21] <lupine_85> ah :)
[04:21] <lupine_85> well, you've been given > 4 solutions now, I think...
[04:21] <ubuntu> how can i install grub 2?
[04:21] <Search4Lancer> none of which I know how to implement :-)
[04:21] <thoreauputic> Search4Lancer: does the server run ssh ?
[04:22] <lupine_85> read, wo/man! :p
[04:22] <niblets> Could you still now? Captain_Redbeard
[04:22] <towync> leviatan i've never really tried too much duel booting before, so this might not be that helpful, but did u accidentally set ur comp to only boot from cd drive?
[04:22] <Search4Lancer> poeticputic: not that I know of
[04:22] <Captain_Redbeard> niblets: I'm a bit busy messing with grub2 and it's gfx options but I can give it a shot
[04:22] <thoreauputic> Search4Lancer: from waht you have said, I think you need to do some reading about this before you implement it :)
[04:22] <towync> leviatan i think u can check that by pressing f2 while ur comp restarts, if i'm wrong somebody correct me thx =)
[04:23] <niblets> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38728/ any help would be great, whatever you can do
[04:23] <ubuntu> how can i install grub 2?
[04:23] <lupine_85> nah, no ssh
[04:23] <thoreauputic> afk
[04:23] <Captain_Redbeard> ubuntu: If you don't know, you shouldn't do it probably ;)
[04:23] <lupine_85> ftp, which is not ideal for this sort of thing
[04:23] <Search4Lancer> my neck hurts from all this
[04:23] <ubuntu> Captin_Redbeard: thats stupid
[04:23] <triki> Captain_Redbeard: gay answer
[04:23] <Captain_Redbeard> niblets: connect your iPod and type: sudo mount /dev/sda1
[04:24] <lupine_85> !grub2
[04:24] <ubotu> grub2: The next generation of GNU GRUB [EXPERIMENTAL] . In component universe, is extra. Version 1.94-3 (edgy), package size 293 kB, installed size 788 kB (Only available for any-i386 any-powerpc any-amd64)
[04:24] <lupine_85> well, it's there
[04:24] <ubuntu> thank you lupine
[04:24] <lupine_85> so I'd imagine you install it and then read the manual
[04:24] <Captain_Redbeard> triki: well would you prefer me helping someone out messing their system up with highly unstable software that wont change anything for them anyway?
[04:24] <niblets> Captain_Redbeard doing now
[04:24] <leviatan> towync thx
[04:24] <triki> point them in the direction of some docs, where there are plenty of
[04:25] <lupine_85> ho hum, you cant feed ftp script files?
[04:25] <lupine_85> let's see...
[04:25] <niblets> Captain_Redbeard "mount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"
[04:26] <Captain_Redbeard> triki: well then you could maybe use your time pointing people to what you find appropriate than filling the channel with prepubertal accusations like things being "gay" when they dont match your expectations
[04:26] <Captain_Redbeard> niblets: hmm let me see if I can find some docs for you mate
[04:26] <lupine_85> Search4Lancer: but read the manpage for lftp. It seems to do everything you want
[04:26] <lupine_85> even has it's own scheduler, it seems
[04:26] <Search4Lancer> oh joy
[04:26] <towync> leviatan np, keep asking if that didn't work out
[04:26] <Search4Lancer> where's it at?
[04:26] <lupine_85> "man lftp"
[04:27] <danny500> does anyone know were I can get Kareoke Downloads?
[04:27] <danny500> #Karaoke
[04:27] <Captain_Redbeard> niblets: oh sorry I'm being retarded btw... create a directory where to mount it and try sudo mount /dev/sda1 /path/to/mountpoint
[04:27] <leviatan> the problem Is that my english is not so good jeje but in -es chanel is someone helping me thanks XD
[04:28] <niblets> Captain_Redbeard just a random folder somewhere?
[04:28] <towync> leviatan i guessed u didn't speak english =) but hopefully we can still help
[04:28] <Captain_Redbeard> niblets: preferably /media/ipod or something similar
[04:28] <niblets> ohk, where? in my home folder, or ?
[04:29] <leviatan> thanks XD
[04:29] <Captain_Redbeard> niblets: I found you this: http://www.ubuntux.org/how-to-use-an-ipod-with-ubuntu guide explaining how to use an ipod with some application named gtkpod, it can easily be switched for amarok
[04:29] <Captain_Redbeard> niblets: mkdir /media/ipod
[04:30] <triki> your  ipod doesn't auto mount ?
[04:30] <niblets> Nope it doesnt
[04:30] <niblets> made the folder
[04:30] <triki> weird mine does
[04:30] <towync> triki my ipod shuffle "auto mounts"
[04:30] <niblets> I know it is weird, and I am trying my best to fix it
[04:31] <towync> triki quoted cuz i don't know what auto mount really means but i can open folder right when i plug ipod shuffle in
[04:31] <niblets> With the help of Captain Redbeard
[04:31] <triki> ahhh ok
[04:31] <triki> one sec i'll look for a tut on it
[04:31] <niblets> its mounted
[04:32] <niblets> lets see if it works
[04:32] <niblets> should I be able to access it from Amarok now Captain_Redbeard?
[04:32] <Captain_Redbeard> yup yup
[04:33] <niblets> Wait, it didnt mount. youre command line was wrong, apparently Captain_Redbeard
[04:33] <Captain_Redbeard> niblets: what did it return then?
[04:34] <Captain_Redbeard> niblets: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/ipod
[04:34] <niblets> It said that you didnt specify what sort of mount it was
[04:34] <Captain_Redbeard> niblets: erf...
[04:34] <niblets> Ill pastebin ya
[04:34] <Captain_Redbeard> niblets: type: lsusb
[04:34] <Captain_Redbeard> niblets: does it detect your ipod?
[04:35] <niblets> on command line?
[04:35] <Captain_Redbeard> yah
[04:35] <niblets> it finds apple computer, inc, which I assume is the ipod
[04:35] <niblets> "Bus 002 Device 003: ID 05ac:1260 Apple Computer, Inc."
[04:36] <_fnord> mine just pops up as ipod
[04:37] <Captain_Redbeard> niblets: I'm really sorry mate but I will have to head off to bed... it's 04:36 here and I'm falling asleep... all I can do is direct you to www.google.com
[04:37] <niblets> ohk, sweet as
[04:37] <niblets> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38730/
[04:37] <niblets> thats the result of the mounting attempt
[04:38] <Search4Lancer> okay.... is it possible to do an upload via lftp in a single command line? such as "lftp -u thisfreakinfile thisfreakinserver" and it does it and then closes
[04:39] <lupine_85> Search4Lancer: no idea.
[04:39] <lupine_85> anyway, good luck with it. I'm off to bed
[04:53] <faked_> is there ever going to be higher versions of flash than 7? because like i'll be sittin' around bored and get on addictinggames but i can't play anything because flash doesn't work for half the stuff
[04:54] <faked_> !flash
[04:54] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:54] <faked_> is there anything useful in there?
[04:57] <notech> if kubuntu doesn't have it, i believe macromedia.org has flash 9 tar.gz. not sure if it's still beta.
[05:01] <notech> nope, wrong site.
[05:01] <notech> http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[05:04] <ubuntu> !grub2
[05:04] <ubotu> grub2: The next generation of GNU GRUB [EXPERIMENTAL] . In component universe, is extra. Version 1.94-3 (edgy), package size 293 kB, installed size 788 kB (Only available for any-i386 any-powerpc any-amd64)
[05:04] <ubuntu> !windows
[05:04] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[05:05] <zach_> hey, anyone, do you know of a theme that I can download that imitates Mac OSX?
[05:05] <ubuntu> emerald has good osx themes
[05:05] <towync> hi how do i get my kmenu/panel bar back
[05:06] <towync> i clicked hide it and now i can't turn it back on lol
[05:06] <ubuntu> you should have a arrow in the righthand corner of your screen
[05:06] <ubuntu> wherever your pannel was (top or botom)
[05:07] <towync> my panel was on bottom
[05:07] <ubuntu> then bottom right
[05:07] <ubuntu> there should be a grey box with an arrow in it
[05:07] <zach_> ubuntu, could you give me a link to this emerald?
[05:07] <ubuntu> zach: do you use beryl?
[05:08] <zach_> I actually have no idea what that is, I just downloaded kubuntu today, I'm just now playing w/ it
[05:08] <ubuntu> oh
[05:08] <towync> ubuntu thx i think it worked, i never saw the grey box but the thing came back =)
[05:08] <ubuntu> have you seen video where people have theor desktop as a 3D cube?
[05:08] <zach_> no, not really, sorry
[05:08] <towync> i so want beryl
[05:09] <towync> beryl doesn't like me lol =)
[05:09] <zach_> I'm a lil bit of a noob here
[05:09] <towync> so am i haha
[05:09] <ubuntu> are you Edgy?
[05:09] <zach_> ya
[05:09] <towync> me too
[05:09] <ubuntu> then beryl is a snap to get going
[05:09] <ubuntu> you want me to help you?
[05:09] <zach_> I figured edgy would be better being newer I guess
[05:09] <zach_> sure thing, that would be awesome, thanks
[05:10] <ubuntu> pastebin me you xorg.conf
[05:10] <ubuntu> your*
[05:10] <towync> me?
[05:10] <towync> do u want my xorg.conf
[05:10] <towync> !paste
[05:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:10] <towync> ubuntu i'll just paste mine for u in case u wanna look at it =)
[05:10] <towync> ubuntu not that u need to lol =)
[05:10] <ubuntu> do you want me to help you get beryl going?
[05:11] <towync> ubuntu of course =)
[05:11] <ubuntu> then go for it
[05:11] <towync> ubuntu most definately =)
[05:11] <zach_> so do I just type #ubuntu in the text spot then?
[05:12] <towync> ubuntu here u go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38734/ =)
[05:12] <towync> !paste | zach_
[05:12] <ubotu> zach_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:12] <towync> zach_ just press the link there http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:12] <ubuntu> towync: tell zach_ where his xorg is and how to paste it
[05:12] <towync> k
[05:12] <ubuntu> ill brb to help you both
[05:13] <towync> so zach_, to paste ur xorg.conf
[05:13] <towync> first open up ur konsole
[05:13] <towync> then in konsole, type sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:13] <towync> then type whatever ur password is to open kate
[05:13] <towync> then press ctrl-a, to select all
[05:13] <towync> then go to edit then copy
[05:13] <towync> then press the link at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:13] <towync> and paste it into the dialog box there, enter ur name, and press paste
[05:14] <towync> and the paste the link of the resulting webpage here so ubuntu can see it
[05:14] <towync> i did it for mine u can see mine at
[05:14] <towync> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38734/
[05:14] <ubuntu> im looking at both of yours now
[05:14] <towync> he pasted his already?
[05:15] <ubuntu> no,
[05:15] <ubuntu> my bad
[05:15] <ubuntu> i thought that was him
[05:15] <ubuntu> its you
[05:15] <towync> o i just entered mine twice
[05:15] <towync> sorry
[05:15] <towync> yeah it's the same
[05:15] <ubuntu> no prob
[05:15] <zach_> ok, ya, I have no clue what I'm doing really, I've never coded before or anything, sorry
[05:16] <towync> all you have to do is type in konsole: sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:16] <towync> no coding at all =)
[05:16] <zach_> I have the etc11org.conf - Kate open, and there's nothing there
[05:17] <towync> no u have to type the slashes
[05:17] <towync> instead of etc11org.conf
[05:17] <towync> u have to type:           sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:17] <towync> if u did that and u still have nothing, then u don't have xorg.conf
[05:18] <towync> i'm not sure where xorg.conf came from in the first place, prolly when i installed my nvidiea driver but i can be totally off for that lol
[05:18] <zach_> ya, I did it again and that konsole is saying failed to open device now
[05:18] <ubuntu> you cant not have xorg
[05:19] <ubuntu> you wouldnt be running without it
[05:19] <towync> o yeah
[05:19] <ubuntu> zach_: do sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:19] <towync> i should know cuz when i was messing around with wacom in xorg.conf, i couldn't get gui anymore until i found out i needed to comment out some other part of xorg.conf lol
[05:20] <zach_> ok, it opened this time
[05:20] <towync> or vim instead of nano, whichever works, i have to google everytime for what the "save" shortcut keys are for each text editor lol
[05:20] <ubuntu> towync: make a backup of you xorg then put http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38735/ that as you xorg and restart (make sure you backup incase it dosnt work)
[05:21] <ubuntu> towync: you just do ctrl+x to exit then it automatically askes if you want to save changes
[05:21] <zach_> it says new file at the bottom w/ some shortcuts
[05:22] <ubuntu> paste the command your doing
[05:22] <ubuntu> just teh one line
[05:23] <zach_> the command that I'm doing is what then?
[05:23] <prak> what is the command in recovery mode to edit sudoer file?
[05:24] <zach_> there is nothing in it at all, and I need to copy all of nothing it would seem
[05:25] <zach_> o well, guys, its ok, I can live w/o that theme until I understand what is going on I guess
[05:26] <zach_> when I think I know what I'm doing I'll come back to you I guess
[05:26] <ubuntu> zach_: im usually always in this channel as makuseru, feel free to ask me to help you again
[05:27] <zach_> cool, thanks a lot really
[05:27] <zach_> sorry I suck at this...
[05:28] <ubuntu> towync: you still in here?
[05:28] <zach_> btw, towync and ubuntu, I'll probably be on this channel a bit too, idk yet if there is a way to save user names or whatever, but feel free to save mine
[05:29] <zach_> it said they were idle for like 6 min.
[05:29] <ubuntu> towync: i need to restart, but just hang in there and ill be back to help you
[05:33] <prak> does anyone know what's the command to edit sudoer in recovery mode?
[05:34] <unix_infidel> visudo
[05:34] <unix_infidel> as root
[05:34] <unix_infidel> or sudo visudo
[05:36] <unix_infidel> anyone know of a linux port of zfs without fuse
[05:37] <unix_infidel> or any benchmarks with zfs port using a fuse compared to native zfs?
[05:42] <pc22>  can anyone recommend a distance learning org?
[05:44] <MasterEvilAce> Anyone have a Dell Inspiron laptop, and have monitor out working?
[05:45] <prak> does anyone know about the dialing directory of minicom?
[05:59] <unix_infidel> anyone have a latitude d420 working with ubuntu?
[06:00] <NDPowerBook> Is that the one with an external optical drive?
[06:00] <NDPowerBook> Cause if so, yes
[06:01] <NDPowerBook> Oh wait I just googled it, its not the one I have
[06:01] <NDPowerBook> But I've never heard of anyone having issues with Dell laptops and linux
[06:01] <unix_infidel> its the newer dell ultraportable.
[06:02] <prak> does anyone know about the dialing directory of minicom?
[06:05] <seven11> how can i find the fastest server for apt-get update
[06:05] <seven11> netselect?
[06:12] <prak> does anyone know about the dialing directory of minicom?
[06:14] <tony__> hello everyone and MERRY XMAS :)
[06:17] <tony__> i have external harddrive connected using USB. each time , i would connect my hd to linux, it used to show an icon on my desktop. now , it shows nothing and i have no access to that Drive.. why . and how i can connct to it ?
[06:17] <tony__> !USB
[06:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about USB - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:23] <T3hWiz0rd> what group does a user need to be a part of in order to mount/umount?
[06:30] <thoreauputic> T3hWiz0rd: wrong question. Depends on what is in /etc/fstab
[06:31] <thoreauputic> T3hWiz0rd: e.g. if the "user" or "users" option is set, you can mount/umount
[06:31] <thoreauputic> if the "users" is set, any user can umount, if sigular ( "user") then the user who mounted the device can umount it
[06:32] <thoreauputic> umm s/sigular/singular
[06:32] <ken> Any one using the driver from 'fs-driver.org' over here?
[06:33] <thoreauputic> ken: since no-one knows what it does, hard to say. What are you trying to actually do?
[06:33] <ken> It is a driver that is used by Windows XP to 'see' the EXT2/3 partitions and write/read to it
[06:33] <thoreauputic> ah I see
[06:33] <thoreauputic> :)
[06:34] <ken> Anyone used that driver?
[06:34] <thoreauputic> ken: sorry, I wiped my windows ages ago
[06:34] <thoreauputic> ken: I've heard it works
[06:34] <ken> i have experienced it doesn't
[06:34] <thoreauputic> :(
[06:35] <thoreauputic> did it trash your data ?
[06:35] <ken> wait i will give the exact error
[06:38] <thoreauputic> the suspense is killing me...
[06:38] <ken> HELP: on starting ubuntu i get: /dev/hda1 has been mount 30 times, without being checked, and then it is checked (slowly), similarly a message comes for /dev/hdb1. And i have to wait. Can someone tell me why this error comes? I tried writing to a EXT3 /home with the driver from fs-driver.org, from windows and after that this happens,
[06:39] <thoreauputic> ken: see my answer in #ubuntu
[06:40] <ken> thoreauputic: From now on we converse there
[06:40] <thoreauputic> yep
[06:43] <towync> how can i let konversation log on to multiple channels everytime automatically at start up?
[06:43] <hagabaka> File - Server List, edit a network or add a new one and edit it
[06:44] <towync> thank you
[06:44] <seven11> where can i find list of other desktops than kde (fluxbox and so on)
[06:45] <seven11> what is a good and fast desktop
[06:46] <towync> !fluxbox
[06:46] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[06:47] <towync> i don't know, sorry
[06:47] <towync> !#kde
[06:47] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[06:48] <thoreauputic> seven11:  http://xwinman.org
[06:48] <seven11> thanks
[06:48] <prak> does anyone know about the dialing directory of minicom?
[06:51] <towycn> merry christmas everyone =)
[06:53] <max_> towync: this is ubuntu
[06:53] <max_> towycn: this is ubuntu
[06:53] <max_> when i logged back in you had logged off
[06:53] <max_> did you swap out your xorg?
[06:54] <waplaw> i am having trouble using a printer, does anyone have any experience with this issue?
[06:55] <bomber> merry christmas everyone
[06:55] <waplaw> i am getting the hp printer_no_found message, and i can't seem to get it to connect
[06:55] <waplaw> merry christmas to you
[06:57] <max_> how do you enable direct rendering?
[06:58] <purpleposeidon> is there a flashplayer9 package?
[06:58] <waplaw> anyone got any ideas on the printer?
[06:59] <robotgeek> purpleposeidon: look up on seveas's repo
[07:02] <T3hWiz0rd> robotgeek: hey hey
[07:02] <robotgeek> hey T3hWiz0rd , merry christmas :)
[07:02] <T3hWiz0rd> you too
[07:06] <towycn> max_ hi max
[07:06] <towycn> sorry i was away a little last time
[07:06] <hagabaka> it's on backports too
[07:06] <max_> its ok
[07:06] <towycn> max_ but yeah i tried out ur revised xorg.conf
[07:07] <towycn> max_ i didn't actually save as what u had as xorg.conf
[07:07] <max_> why
[07:07] <towycn> max_ cuz i just added in the "DRI" section,
[07:07] <prak> does anyone know about the dialing directory of minicom?
[07:07] <towycn> max_ and also under modules, i added the line Load "dbe"
[07:07] <max_> ok
[07:07] <max_> thats all i did to yours
[07:07] <thompa> allo, how do i convert something to a wav file?
[07:08] <towycn> max_ it worked better than before =)
[07:08] <towycn> max_ the mouse was responsive
[07:08] <towycn> max_ but nothing responds to keyboard
[07:08] <max_> now hang on and ill get what you need to add to your sources.list
[07:08] <towycn> max_ but it still wouldn't run tho, but the error msg this time was different
[07:08] <towycn> max_ thx so much for the help =)
[07:08] <towycn> max_ i forgot to write down the error msg this time
[07:09] <towycn> max_ cuz i wasn't sure if i'd be able to meet up with u =)
[07:09] <towycn> what the
[07:09] <towycn> max_ hehe, saw u took a exit with a bang =)
[07:10] <max_> brb, gotta get that link
[07:10] <towycn> max_ k thx alot =)
[07:10] <towycn> max_ i'll be here for a long while, take ur time =)
[07:11] <max_> are you edgy or dapper
[07:11] <towycn> i'm on edgy
[07:12] <max_> # Trevio's Beryl-SVN Ubuntu Repository
[07:12] <max_> # GPG key: 81836EBF
[07:12] <max_> deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb edgy beryl-svn
[07:12] <max_> deb-src http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb edgy beryl-svn
[07:12] <max_> add that to your sources.list
[07:12] <towycn> k
[07:13] <towycn> adding
[07:13] <thompa> anybody using soundkonverter? what does it need for wav files here
[07:14] <thompa> i got all codecs stuff, but the error is on opening the flac or mp3 to be converted."try changing file name"
[07:14] <thompa> max_: beryl svn is not working for me right now
[07:14] <towycn> max_ k i'm adding in the repos now, i had to find where sources.list were at first, so i googled, and i'm adding now
[07:15] <thompa> it was a few days ago, now it just freezes everything up
[07:15] <max_> does your screen turn white then you get booted to login?
[07:15] <thompa> my windows lost the top bar area so i cant grab or move them
[07:16] <max_> do a "reload windows manager"
[07:16] <thompa> refreshing or changing themes does no good,
[07:16] <thompa> no good
[07:16] <max_> go into .beryl-managerrc and change render path to 2
[07:16] <thompa> ok
[07:16] <thompa> let me start it up
[07:17] <max_> no
[07:17] <lbg> hello
[07:17] <max_> dont start it
[07:17] <lbg> why my desktop frequently down?
[07:17] <lbg> ?
[07:18] <towycn> max_ cool i had to type it in, i couldn't copy paste from here, now it's in the sources.list, how do i get the key, do i do wget something
[07:18] <thompa> max_: im looking for it
[07:18] <towycn> we're overwhelming max with questions hehe, thx max =)
[07:18] <max_> KEY=81836EBF; gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv $KEY && gpg --export --armor $KEY | sudo apt-key add -
[07:18] <towycn> enter that verbatim into command prompt?
[07:18] <max_> yes
[07:18] <towycn> k
[07:20] <max_> thompa: just open a terminal and do sudo nano .beryl-manager-rc
[07:20] <max_> oops
[07:20] <max_> .beryl-managerrc
[07:20] <max_> that
[07:20] <towycn> gpg: requesting key 81836EBF from hkp server subkeys.pgp.net
[07:20] <towycn> gpg: key 81836EBF: public key "Trevio (3v1n0) <trevi55@gmail.com>" imported
[07:20] <towycn> gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
[07:20] <towycn> gpg: Total number processed: 1
[07:20] <towycn> gpg:               imported: 1
[07:20] <towycn> OK
[07:20] <towycn> does that look right
[07:21] <towycn> sorry if i'm spamming, i forgot to paste into paste bin
[07:21] <max_> ya, it says OK
[07:21] <towycn> ok =)
[07:21] <max_> now do a sudo apt-get update, if it gives you an error (it might) do it again and it shouldnt
[07:21] <towycn> k
[07:21] <max_> then do sudo apt-get install beryl
[07:22] <thompa> max_: what do i put there
[07:22] <max_> you did sudo nano .beryl-managerrc?
[07:23] <thompa> i found some rendering path options, in the gui, but auto , texture ,cop
[07:23] <thompa> yes
[07:23] <towycn> btw i'm using kubuntu, hopefully that doesn't change anything right =)
[07:23] <max_> is beryl shut down
[07:23] <thompa> yes
[07:23] <max_> townycn: ubuntu, kubuntu, same thing
[07:23] <towycn> cool =-)
[07:23] <max_> i use kubuntu
[07:23] <max_> cause i dont like gnome
[07:24] <max_> thompa: ok change render path from 0 to 2
[07:24] <towycn> =) i never tried gnome before
[07:24] <max_> townycn: not do sudo apt-get install beryl
[07:24] <max_> now do*
[07:25] <towycn> dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `sun-java5-bin' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed.
[07:25] <towycn> that was the error msg
[07:25] <towycn> i've been getting that since lately the auto updater had problems
[07:25] <thompa> max_: eh, is that a new file?
[07:26] <max_> thompa: no
[07:26] <thompa> nevermind i found it
[07:26] <spitwise> happy ximas
[07:26] <thompa> i must have misspelled it
[07:26] <max_> towycn: did you do that?
[07:26] <towycn> actually adept_updater had been bad for me lately, it gets stuck whenever it finished downloading the updates and tries to install something related to sun java
[07:26] <towycn> yeah i typed in sudo apt-get install beryl
[07:26] <spitwise> apt is much easier to use
[07:27] <max_> did it install it
[07:27] <towycn> i had this error msg:  dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `sun-java5-bin' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed.
[07:27] <towycn> no it stopped half way i think
[07:27] <max_> try it again
[07:27] <towycn> k
[07:27] <towycn> k now it worked
[07:28] <towycn> during the process all they did was remove something sun-java related
[07:28] <max_> now do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:28] <towycn> k
[07:29] <thompa> max_i had to also change rendering path to copy from auto
[07:29] <towycn> max_ download in process
[07:29] <max_> alright
[07:29] <max_> so the render path was set to 2?
[07:29] <thompa> right click on beryl manager icon, rendering path on copy also
[07:30] <max_> what was the render path in .beryl-managerrc
[07:30] <thompa> max_: thanks , working well now
[07:30] <max_> no problem
[07:30] <towycn> max_ 97 percent =)
[07:30] <towycn> unpacking
[07:30] <thompa> i think it was 0
[07:30] <towycn> a whole bunch of things
[07:31] <towycn> still unpacking
[07:31] <max_> towycn: now just do beryl-manager in a terminal and itll start up
[07:31] <towycn> Wrote namespace list at bcf8 - bd08
[07:31] <towycn> ***
[07:31] <towycn> Preparing to replace emerald-themes 0.1.2-0ubuntu1 (using .../emerald-themes_0.1.4+svn20061219-r1916+3v1ubuntu0_all.deb) ...
[07:31] <towycn> Unpacking replacement emerald-themes ...
[07:31] <towycn> Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:31] <towycn>  /var/cache/apt/archives/libemeraldengine0_0.1.4+svn20061223-r2015+3v1ubuntu0_i386.deb
[07:31] <towycn> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[07:32] <thompa> everythin is 0 in that file but icon size
[07:32] <towycn> max_ would the error msg above be a problem?
[07:32] <thompa> and now render path
[07:32] <max_> no
[07:32] <towycn> to my question? that'd be great lol
[07:32] <max_> towycn: now just do beryl-manager in a terminal and itll start up
[07:32] <towycn> k
[07:32] <max_> itll give you errors
[07:32] <max_> dont worry
[07:33] <max_> dont paste them
[07:33] <towycn> fingers crossed =) testing k
[07:33] <towycn> sorry =)
[07:33] <max_> itll still start up
[07:33] <spitwise> hmm beryl looks interesting
[07:33] <towycn> it says composite manager crashed twice within a minute and is therefore disabled for this session
[07:34] <towycn> actually one of the error msg is: beryl: another composite manager is already running on screen: 0
[07:34] <max_> whats your processor speed?
[07:34] <towycn> 3ghz
[07:34] <max_> ok
[07:34] <max_> restart then try to start beryl again
[07:34] <towycn> nvidia fx 5900 for graphics card, and 1g ram
[07:34] <thompa> burn and transporter are in animation setting
[07:34] <towycn> k
[07:34] <max_> you dont even have to do a full one
[07:35] <max_> just do ctrl+alt+backspace
[07:35] <max_> just need to restart x
[07:35] <towycn> me right
[07:35] <towycn> k
[07:35] <towycn> brb
[07:36] <thompa> bzflag does not work with beryl though, so i got to often switch off
[07:36] <thompa> open gl game
[07:36] <spitwise> bzflag rocks
[07:37] <towycn> !paste
[07:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:37] <spitwise> is ok w/ kubuntu?
[07:37] <spitwise> er .. kde?
[07:37] <thompa> i can get to number one on any competition or close
[07:37] <spitwise> i play w/ my mouse
[07:38] <spitwise> feel as though its a disadvantage
[07:38] <towycn> max_ there's still some errors, and beryl wouldn't start, but it's getting so close =)
[07:38] <thompa> have you run experimental gui
[07:38] <towycn> max_ i pasted the error msg here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38743/
[07:38] <max_> *looks*
[07:38] <spitwise> me?
[07:38] <spitwise> i used only *box for years, recently installed kubuntu but havent tried bzflag yet
[07:39] <towycn> o do i have to uninstall baghira
[07:39] <max_> maybe
[07:39] <thompa> did you install emerald files too, cause i missed that first time
[07:39] <max_> and if that dosnt work
[07:39] <max_> do apt-get install beryl again
[07:39] <towycn> k
[07:39] <towycn> would i just do: sudo apt-get uninstall Baghira?
[07:39] <thompa> if you use syanptic it will skip emerald themes and some other file
[07:40] <max_> yes
[07:40] <max_> thompa: were not using synap here
[07:40] <thompa> thats good
[07:41] <max_> i got it under control dont worry
[07:41] <thompa> i cant get snow to work
[07:42] <SurgeX> Does Kubuntu support the Intel Graphics Media Accelerator (900)?
[07:42] <towycn> k brb i uninstalled baghira
[07:42] <towycn> oops, i meant to type: max_ brb i uninstalled baghira, restarting
[07:43] <max_> alright
[07:45] <towycn> max_ k i'm back, after i uninstalled baghira, i think beryl-manager got deleted too, cuz it now says command not found, so i just do sudo apt-get install beryl again right
[07:45] <max_> yes
[07:45] <towycn> and then beryl-manager again right
[07:46] <towycn> hehe sorry =) but just don't wanna mess anything up
[07:46] <max_> did you get errors installing it?
[07:46] <towycn> nope
[07:46] <max_> then do beryl-manager
[07:46] <towycn> k =) fingers crossed again lol
[07:46] <towycn> darn it
[07:47] <max_> same problem?
[07:47] <towycn> there's another composite manager failure error dialogue box
[07:47] <max_> hang on
[07:47] <towycn> it says again the composite manager crashed twice within a minute and is therefore disabled for this session
[07:47] <towycn> but this time when i type beryl-manager it's a lot cleaner, there was only this msg:
[07:47] <max_> do
[07:47] <spitwise> does it tell you to edit your xorg.conf?
[07:47] <towycn> computer@computer-desktop:~$ trying '/home/computer/.xcompmgrrc' as configfile
[07:47] <towycn> finished parsing the config file
[07:47] <max_> glib -l
[07:48] <towycn> no space between - and | right
[07:48] <max_> its not a |
[07:48] <max_> its a lower case L
[07:48] <towycn> o
[07:48] <towycn> cool thx
[07:48] <max_> mhm
[07:48] <spitwise> !pipe
[07:48] <towycn> glib command not found
[07:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pipe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:48] <towycn> apt-get install glib?
[07:48] <max_> no
[07:48] <towycn> o hehe, cool
[07:49] <max_> i dont know about that error
[07:49] <max_> go into #beryl and ask
[07:49] <towycn> k =)
[07:49] <towycn> is there a site that lists all the previous steps that u told me
[07:49] <spitwise> i get that error but its a transparency issue
[07:49] <towycn> just in case i decide to reinstall kubuntu all together
[07:49] <towycn> i think i might have messed around too much so these wierd errors appear
[07:50] <brianw> is there a way to install nvidia 9.x drivers?
[07:50] <thompa> isnt there a non svn more stable beryl install
[07:50] <max_> svn is stable
[07:50] <brianw> adept only shows 1.0.8776
[07:50] <thompa> ive had lots of problems with svn,
[07:51] <thompa> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL
[07:51] <max_> svn is fine now
[07:51] <max_> its not XGL
[07:51] <max_> its AIGLX
[07:52] <thompa> i guess that link is old
[07:53] <RobbeZ> anyone an idea why my shell would always respond with a "E: Couldn't find package <anything>" while giving this kind of line "sudo apt-get install <anything>" ?
[07:53] <spitwise> RobbeZ: do an apt-cache search <anything>
[07:54] <spitwise> you may need to uncomment a repository
[07:55] <RobbeZ> it just jumps to the next line
[07:55] <RobbeZ> giving no visable difference
[07:55] <spitwise> you just installed?
[07:55] <RobbeZ> kinda :s
[07:55] <spitwise> ok
[07:56] <spitwise> sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:56] <spitwise> kate being the text editor
[07:56] <spitwise> and uncomment the universe line
[07:56] <spitwise> a lot of packages there
[07:56] <thoreauputic> spitwise: wrong file !!
[07:56] <spitwise> umm
[07:56] <spitwise> RIGHT!
[07:57] <spitwise> sorry
[07:57] <spitwise> /etc/apt/
[07:57] <thoreauputic>  kdsu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:57] <spitwise> thanks
[07:57] <spitwise> <-- too much multitasking
[07:57] <spitwise> listen to thoreauputic
[07:57] <RobbeZ> hehe
[07:57] <thoreauputic> umm or should that be kdesu ?
[07:57] <spitwise> either
[07:57] <thoreauputic> (on gnome here atm)
[07:57] <spitwise> oh
[07:58] <spitwise> whatever gives you root privs
[07:58] <thoreauputic> yes, but don't do sudo kate <-- bad move
[07:58] <spitwise> ya kate sucks
[07:58] <thoreauputic> kdesu kate i think
[07:58] <spitwise> for things as this
[07:58] <spitwise> vim is nice
[07:58] <RobbeZ> I did put up some # earlier on, since I was trying to use GrubEd
[07:58] <spitwise> or nano
[07:58] <thoreauputic> no kate is fine, hust don't use straight sudo for HUI apps
[07:58] <thoreauputic> GUI
[07:59] <spitwise> insecure?
[07:59] <thoreauputic> spitwise: yourun the risk that ~/,ICEauthority ends up owned by root
[07:59] <spitwise> damn
[07:59] <thoreauputic> spitwise: which locks you out on next login
[08:00] <spitwise> awesome.
[08:00] <thoreauputic> also  ~/.Xautjority
[08:00] <thoreauputic> nah
[08:00] <spitwise> sudo and kde are new to me
[08:00] <thoreauputic> ~/.Xauthority
[08:00] <spitwise> i'm not so sure about them
[08:01] <thoreauputic> spitwise: hah - ten to one I'm older than you ;)
[08:01] <spitwise> you're on
[08:01] <thoreauputic> spitwise: I'm 54
[08:01] <spitwise> hahah you win ;P
[08:02] <thoreauputic> :)
[08:02] <spitwise> <-- just stubborn then ;)
[08:02] <thoreauputic> spitwise: I accept cheques and credit cards ;-)
[08:02] <RobbeZ> spitwise : any thought around what line that "universe" might be in xorg.conf ?
[08:02] <spitwise> its not a long file
[08:02] <thoreauputic> RobbeZ: it isn't there
[08:02] <spitwise> and not easy to miss
[08:03] <thoreauputic> WRONG FILE!!!
[08:03] <spitwise> wha>?
[08:03] <thoreauputic> excuse caps
[08:03] <spitwise> /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:03] <thoreauputic> there is *no* universe line in that file!
[08:03] <spitwise> ya thoreauputic , stop yelling!
[08:03] <thoreauputic> heheh
[08:03] <thoreauputic> it's not something I often do
[08:04] <spitwise> heh sorry its #kubuntu
[08:04] <mike> I messed up my repositories in adept
[08:04] <mike> how can I fix them
[08:04] <thoreauputic> but editing that file is a great way to bork your system if you don't know
[08:05] <thoreauputic> !easysource
[08:05] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:06] <spitwise> all i know is i couldnt install anything i needed until i uncomment one freakin universe line in my sources.list  ..
[08:06] <spitwise> no borking.
[08:06] <spitwise> but he is using gnome ..
[08:06] <spitwise> dunno if all *bunutu installs are like this
[08:09] <brianw> ok, so I tried to install nvidia-glx , but it is only available for a kernel I don't have installed. Any help?
[08:09] <RobbeZ> Spitwise : replaced my list with a fresh one, but still got "E: Couldn't find package x"
[08:10] <secleinteer> does anyone know how i can erase a dvdrw with k3b?
[08:10] <RobbeZ> Spitwise : Should I restart something ?
[08:10] <spitwise> RobbeZ: did a sudo apt-get update?
[08:10] <spitwise> (so apt knows you changed the file)
[08:10] <brianw> brianw@hathor:~$ sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[08:10] <brianw> Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[08:10] <RobbeZ> Spitwise : I thought I did that just before coming here, but trough the interface
[08:11] <mike> I am trying to install an aaati driver
[08:11] <spitwise> i dont use the interface ..
[08:11] <mike> its an rpm
[08:11] <RobbeZ> Spitwise : Ah, right :-)
[08:11] <spitwise> :)
[08:11] <mike> how do I get it into apt
[08:11] <spitwise> apt is a commanbd
[08:11] <spitwise> command
[08:11] <spitwise> !apt
[08:11] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[08:11] <jason>  how do i know if i have the dapper amd64 or just 386 version?
[08:11] <RobbeZ> Spitwise : well what do you now, it works :)))
[08:11] <spitwise> yay!
[08:12] <RobbeZ> Spitwise : thanks a lot :D
[08:12] <spitwise> sure thing
[08:12] <RobbeZ> Yay idd
[08:12] <spitwise> apt-get update .. i forget too sometimes
[08:12] <RobbeZ> wouldn't have guessed it myself
[08:13] <spitwise> is also handy before using apt-get upgrade ;)
[08:13] <RobbeZ> btw do you know if kubunty 7 will have a graphical grub ?
[08:13] <spitwise> me i dunno i'm a kubuntu newbie
[08:13] <RobbeZ> hehe, I'll try to console more
[08:14] <spitwise> ya more power there .. no bs ;))
[08:14] <RobbeZ> a very wise newbie
[08:14] <spitwise> plain old debian user
[08:14] <RobbeZ> :-)
[08:15] <spitwise> shell only does waht you tell it to ;)
[08:15] <RobbeZ> did use suse and fedora before, but strangly I never had to much trouble, even though they felt more complex
[08:15] <RobbeZ> hehe, inserting "just work" command
[08:15] <spitwise> heh
[08:15] <mike> I have downloaded the rpm
[08:15] <mike> how can I get apt to install it
[08:16] <RobbeZ> apt fetches the file
[08:16] <spitwise> apt only installs .deb files
[08:16] <spitwise> !rpm
[08:16] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[08:16] <brianw> brianw@hathor:~$ uname -a
[08:16] <brianw> Linux hathor 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Tue Dec 5 22:28:26 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:16] <brianw> is that right?
[08:17] <mike> how can you get yahoo chat sound
[08:18] <mike> the vox opens but no sound comes out
[08:21] <jerp> Merry Christmas Windows users -  http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/25/technology/25vista.html?ei=5090&en=49a6ffcc2da87302&ex=1324702800&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=print
[08:23] <jason> what is the command to move files?
[08:23] <brianw> Can anyone help me get the nvidia drivers installed?
[08:23] <unix_infidel> !mv
[08:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:24] <unix_infidel> !nvidia
[08:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:24] <brianw> !nvidia
[08:24] <jason> thanks
[08:24] <spitwise> jason: mv <file> /location/blah
[08:24] <spitwise> read some man pages, man
[08:25] <spitwise> cp "copies" it
[08:25] <spitwise> when did irc become easier than moving a file?
[08:27] <towync> how do i exit X in kubuntu?
[08:27] <towync> when i try to run nvidia 9629 update
[08:27] <towync> it says it appears i'm in X
[08:27] <towync> and i need to exit X
[08:27] <spitwise> cntrl+alt1 or 2 or 3 can give you a console
[08:27] <spitwise> 7 is where X runs
[08:27] <towync> yeah but in console it stills say the same thing
[08:27] <spitwise> ps -aux
[08:27] <towync> what's that
[08:28] <spitwise> tells you whats running
[08:28] <spitwise> what processes
[08:28] <towync> o
[08:28] <towync> so just type it in?
[08:28] <towync> konsole
[08:28] <spitwise> and you can see the 3 of that process
[08:28] <spitwise> and
[08:28] <spitwise> killall -9 <process>
[08:28] <brianw> unix_infidel: ok, I have this for uname: Linux hathor 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Tue Dec 5 22:28:26 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux , which linux-restricted-modules do I need?
[08:28] <spitwise> kills it
[08:28] <spitwise> s/3/#
[08:28] <towync> what's -9?
[08:28] <spitwise> man kill
[08:29] <spitwise> i just use it -- its like "i'm freakin serious -- kill that f**ker
[08:29] <unix_infidel> man i need to get me a tablet pc :(
[08:29] <towync> what does "and you can see the 3 of that process" mean
[08:29] <towync> lol
[08:29] <spitwise> :D
[08:29] <spitwise> !kill
[08:29] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[08:29] <towync> what does "the 3 of that process" mean, u typed that earlier
[08:29] <towync> couple lines up
[08:29] <spitwise> 3 was meant to be #
[08:30] <spitwise> didnt press my shift ket hard enough
[08:30] <spitwise> key
[08:30] <towync> what does the # of that process mean tho
[08:30] <spitwise> arrie    5654  7.0  0.1   2900  1100 pts/2    R+   02:30   0:00 ps -aux
[08:31] <towync> huh
[08:31] <towync> *lost*
[08:31] <spitwise> the # after arrie is the process #
[08:31] <spitwise> 5654
[08:31] <towync> o u mean number
[08:31] <spitwise> (its easier to type than the name usually)
[08:31] <towync> i thought # as comment
[08:31] <spitwise> oh sorry ;P
[08:31] <spitwise> number.
[08:31] <towync> no my bad =)
[08:31] <spitwise> !ps\
[08:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ps\ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:31] <spitwise> !ps
[08:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ps - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:32] <spitwise> ubotu needs man
[08:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about needs man - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:32] <towync> what do i kill then
[08:32] <spitwise> X?
[08:32] <towync> i don't see X anywhere in the output for the command ps -aux
[08:32] <brianw> Ok, I have followed the nvidia guide, when I try to do the l ast step, I get this: Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[08:32] <brianw> any ideas?
[08:33] <max_> whats the problem?
[08:33] <brianw> me?
[08:33] <towync> i don't know, oo max_ ur back =)
[08:33] <max_> ever get beryl?
[08:33] <towync> no, i'm trying to install newest nvidia driver
[08:33] <towync> but during that install
[08:34] <towync> i get error saying X is running and i need to quit X
[08:34] <towync> how do i quit X... lol
[08:34] <spitwise> try top then
[08:34] <spitwise> it gives me a Xorg pid
[08:34] <spitwise> !pid
[08:34] <brianw> just switch to rc3
[08:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:34] <max_> during your nvidia install?
[08:34] <towync> yeah
[08:34] <towync> a blue screen comes within konsole
[08:34] <max_> ok, get some paper
[08:34] <towync> k
[08:34] <towync> got them
[08:35] <deviant> hello, does anyone know what port apache listens to? Need to know so I can set it in the router to open.. Or know the command to find out?
[08:35] <unix_infidel> 80
[08:35] <brianw> deviant: netstat -alne
[08:35] <spitwise> links google.com
[08:36] <max_> ok, iwhat type type of file is your driver installer?
[08:36] <towync> NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9629-pkg1.run
[08:37] <spitwise> towync: youb dont see this?:  /usr/bin/X  somthing?
[08:37] <towync> o let me try again
[08:37] <max_> no
[08:37] <spitwise> from ps -aux
[08:37] <max_> your gunna logout, when you login press <ctrl+alt+F2> login that way, then run your installer like that, when your done type in <startx>
[08:37] <towync> type in <startx> with the brackets?
[08:37] <spitwise> ?
[08:38] <max_> no
[08:38] <spitwise> max is talking to brianw
[08:38] <towync> spitwise yeah now i see a /usr/bin/X -br
[08:38] <max_> no
[08:38] <max_> max is talking to towync
[08:38] <towync> k =)
[08:38] <spitwise> heh
[08:38] <brianw> heh
[08:38] <towync> max_ do i type <startx> with the brackets?
[08:38] <brianw> I just want to get the stable nvidia drivers installed. But no go...
[08:39] <max_> does anyone know what KDE's equivilant to Gnomes Natilus is?
[08:39] <spitwise> he just wants to kill X i thought
[08:39] <brianw> max_ konqueror
[08:39] <towync> spitwise yeah i needed to kill X then install something
[08:39] <spitwise> oh .. youve killed it then?
[08:39] <max_> no, no brackets
[08:40] <towync> spitwise i haven't yet
[08:40] <max_> oh ok
[08:40] <spitwise> can be a bieatch
[08:40] <spitwise> makes sure its dead ;)
[08:40] <towync> spitwise i'll try max_ is way first, cuz i'm a little afraid to mess with "kill", too strong a word lol
[08:40] <brianw> just switch to rc3
[08:40] <towync> spitwise brb =)
[08:40] <towync> what's rc3
[08:40] <spitwise> prolly a good idea
[08:41] <towync> or is that not part of this conversation, rc3 i meant, good thing i'm doing all this half awake too lol
[08:41] <brianw> console runlevel
[08:41] <towync> cool =)
[08:41] <towync> brb, hopefully i can be back lol
[08:41] <brianw> max_ you got any help for me? :)
[08:42] <max_> whats your problem?
[08:43] <froud> after backup of Kmail I see message subjects on old mail but when I try read the message it is blank. New messages arriving are fine. Any ideas
[08:43] <brianw> I am trying to install the nvidia pacjage through adept, i get it installed, but when I enter `sudo nvidia-glx-config enable` , I get this output: Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed the nvidia driver for your running kernel
[08:44] <brianw> max_ ^^^
[08:44] <max_> i dont know anything ab0out nvidia
[08:44] <spitwise> there are tons of nvidia q's here
[08:45] <spitwise> seems a lot of people with them ahve issues
[08:45] <brianw> This was so easy in Gentoo. I understand why it is a bit more difficult w/ a non-source based distro, but I don't know where to go from here.
[08:45] <deviant_> does anyone know what command you use to see what ports are being used by programs?
[08:46] <brianw> deviant_: netstat -alnep
[08:46] <spitwise> heh 'easy' and 'gentoo' in the same sentence!
[08:46] <spitwise> ;)
[08:46] <deviant_> brianw thanks
[08:46] <brianw> deviant_: no problem
[08:47] <brianw> spitwise: `emerge nvidia-drivers` . That is it. Of course you have to edit the xorg.conf file...
[08:48] <spitwise> and then wait 8 hrs?
[08:48] <brianw> heh, well since the nvidia driver is a binary... um no. :)
[08:48] <spitwise> ;P
[08:49] <deviant_> brianw that doesn't show me the ports they have open, Like for my MUD it has port 5200 open it shows the program running but not the port it's running on.
[08:49] <spitwise> ya just taking hte oppurtunity to make a crack
[08:49] <spitwise> not wise considering my typing
[08:50] <spitwise> memebr in the matric when trinity borke into that system?
[08:50] <spitwise> memeber what she typed to get the open ports?
[08:50] <brianw> I just want to get the darned driver installed. And I would not like to circumvent the package manager...
[08:50] <spitwise> ya sorry brianw , just commeting on the amount of q's that ive seen come through here on that
[08:51] <spitwise> more than should be methinks
[08:52] <brianw> The thing is, I have followed the method of installation. It shows it as installed, but apparently it is not getting built against the current running kernel...
[08:52] <spitwise> have you talked to any developers or so? bug report??
[08:53] <spitwise> ..just seem to be more probs than answers
[08:54] <spitwise> from an outsiders pov
[08:54] <sandbox> Speaking of bugs, has there been any development towards the "energy savings" problem in kubuntu 6.10 edgy? The screen blanks and shows various sized X's every time.
[08:58] <deviant_> hello I need to find out what port apache listens on so I can plug it into my router so someone else can see the website anyone know?
[09:01] <spitwise> i'm gonna take a wild guess and say 80
[09:02] <spitwise> don't think taht;s your probs though
[09:03] <brianw> Well I think I know what the problem is. My kernel version is: 2.6.17-10-generic , but the nvidia-glx package is this version: 1.0.8776+2.6.17.6-1
[09:03] <spitwise> ew
[09:04] <spitwise> downgrading kernel? ouch.
[09:05] <seven11> somebody help if i start 3ddesk i get
[09:05] <seven11> Attempting to start 3ddesktop server.
[09:05] <seven11> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[09:05] <spitwise> is there a way you can boot off an older kernel?
[09:06] <spitwise> must sleep .. good luck brianw
[09:07] <seven11> help with 3ddesktop anyone
[09:07] <max_> boo 3ddesk
[09:08] <max_> do you have direct rendering on?
[09:08] <jerp> have you loaded the glx
[09:08] <jerp> loaded = installed
[09:09] <seven11> yes glx is installed
[09:09] <max_> do you have direct rendering on?
[09:09] <seven11> how do i check
[09:11] <seven11> max_: how do i check for direct rendering
[09:12] <froud> Anyone tried a groupware solution with Kmail? Which is best?
[09:13] <jerp> seven, my guess is, <name of glx renderer> enable
[09:13] <jerp> seven, and if not that, <name of glx renderer> --help
[09:14] <max_> i dunno
[09:15] <deviant_> http://68.103.69.159/ could someone go here and see if you can see my website?
[09:15] <deviant_> I want to see if the port opened up
[09:16] <brianw> fixed it
[09:17] <deviant_> Did it work?
[09:17] <jerp> nope, still waiting
[09:18] <deviant_> I made my router open port 80 so people could see my website so I dunno what's going on.
[09:18] <jerp> the Loading pinwheel is spinning
[09:19] <jerp> how about.........  68.103.69.159:80
[09:19] <jerp> how about.........  http://68.103.69.159:80
[09:19] <deviant_> lol does that work?
[09:20] <jerp> nah, it says loading
[09:20] <deviant_> I can see my website going there, That's because I'm directly connected to it.
[09:22] <jerp> is there an apache wiki/howto/troubleshoot guide?
[09:23] <jerp> cause it isn't coming up
[09:23] <alin> Merry Christmas to all Linux Lovers!!
[09:23] <jerp> you to alin, thanks :)
[09:29] <max_> does anyone know how to take audio off a .flv file? or just save audio from youtube
[09:31] <jerp> that's over my head max_, sorry. but I can turn a computer on. let me know if you have that problem some time and I can help
[09:32] <max_> ooooooooooooooooooooooooook
[09:32] <jerp> hahaha :)
[09:35] <hyper_ch> good morning, I have a problem. When I try to insttall vncserver (rather actually start it) I get following error:  vncpasswd: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:36] <hyper_ch> any suggesstions?
[09:43] <Search4Lancer> I'm having crontab problems... anyone good with them?
[10:09] <chupa-chups> hi
[10:10] <Captain_Haddock> hi
[10:10] <Captain_Haddock> !samba
[10:10] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:12] <chupa-chups> hello
[10:14] <dyve> buon natale a tutti
[10:17] <max_> anyone use beryl?
[10:26] <Search4Lancer> max_, I've failed at using beryl, if that's what you mean
[10:27] <Search4Lancer> it pretty much f'ed everything
[10:27] <Search4Lancer> freaking nightmare, beryl is
[10:32] <max_> beryl is easy to get goin
[10:34] <Search4Lancer> ....easy for you to say
[10:35] <brady> approximately how much hdisk space is used by installing ubuntu, kubuntu and xubuntu all on the same system?
[10:36] <brady> i.e., i mean ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop
[10:42] <fdoving> brady: ~1G
[10:42] <fdoving> .. maybe 1.5G
[10:47] <unix_infidel> depends on how much stuff you install.
[10:48] <unix_infidel> if you install all 3 desktops then considerably more.
[10:48] <unix_infidel> but then you look at total install size with all the apps and customizations you'll want and youll end up with a nice 2-2.5GB
[10:49] <fdoving> from a clean edgy server install with not-much-crap installed (using 830MB currently) installing all 3 desktops will use 680MB more. 830+680=1510
[10:50] <unix_infidel> fdoving: that's what i'm waying is he installing from a full fledged desktop install cd or is he using a alternate or server cd
[10:50] <unix_infidel> saying*
[10:50] <fdoving> that doesn't matter.
[10:51] <fdoving> installing xubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop will use approx the same ammount of space if you install first kubuntu from the desktop cd, and then install xubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop from the internet..
[10:52] <fdoving> .. if you compare that to installing a clean server system and then install the three desktops.. it won't be much of a difference.
[10:52] <plugs> !feisty
[10:52] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[10:52] <plugs> is edgy totally cool
[10:52] <plugs> i still using dapper
[10:52] <fdoving> edgy is cool :)
[10:53] <unix_infidel> fdoving: i'm looking at the isntall guide for warty and its saying standard Ubuntu Desktop Install requires 1.8GB
[10:53] <unix_infidel> See Appendix.
[10:54] <fdoving> unix_infidel: that's with swap and actually having some space to use it. i'm counting used MBs.
[10:55] <jerp> I would post this elsewhere but I'm using xubuntu and when I try to access my disk app (xfce menu/system/disks) and it lets me enter the sudo password, starts to appear (grayed) but closes prematurely.
[10:55] <unix_infidel> fdoving: there's no mention of those two prerequisites.
[10:55] <unix_infidel> fdoving: also, 1843.2MB
[10:56] <fdoving> unix_infidel: then it has changed.
[10:56] <unix_infidel> fdoving:  I wont argue there.  This is for warty.
[10:56] <unix_infidel> fdoving: It's totally understandable that things have changed.
[10:57] <unix_infidel> Just not changed for the smaller.
[11:11] <jerp> I guess one is better off if they don't use either of the two biggest named graphics card companies
[11:16] <jerp> make that $dieter
[11:33] <umnik> How can I change ckeckspelling in Kopete from english to slovene?
[11:36] <ged> if I want to create a anonymous file share on my Linux box so my windows boxes can see the mp3s in /mnt/mp3 is there a simple way to accomplish this in kubuntu?
[11:37] <fdoving> we don't encourage sharing of mp3s.
[11:37] <ged> nice dodge
[11:38] <fdoving> hypothetically, that would depend on how you want users to access the share. \\yourmachine\files or with a ftp client?
[11:38] <fdoving> ged: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html
[11:39] <fdoving> ged: that is for the \\yourmachine\files way.. for the ftp way: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html
[11:40] <ged> fdoving: thanks for the links, I just found this one https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucasArruda/ConfiguringEasyUnauthenticatedSambaWindowsLinuxShare
[11:41] <ged> if I have to muck with the config, I guess might as well start with that...
[11:41] <fdoving> ged: sure.. :)
[11:43] <plugs> nice dodge indeed
[11:44] <ged> I was hoping there was something more graphical, but that actually did the trick
[11:45] <jerp> it's nice to share though
[11:46] <ged> indeed. :)
[11:48] <matthias> hi ho :) ich habe mir mal kde installiert, jetzt ist beim starten dieser blaue kubuntu startfortschrittsbildschirm. wie kann ich mir wieder das ubuntu-bild dort herstellen?
[11:52] <jerp> matthias, hi ho back at ya;  no one in #kubuntu-de ?
[12:02] <matthias> oh, shit, sry for speaking german ;)
[12:05] <php-freak> does kubuntu have a regexp text editor
[12:08] <mustasj> Hi , merry christmas, are there any deb packages around for k3b 1.0 rc2?
[12:18] <cappelli> italian people?
[12:18] <matthias> hi, how can i set the slpash screen after grub-menu to ubuntu-style? after installing kde it has now kde-feeling, but i prefer the ubuntu-logo ^^
[12:20] <rolando> hola
[12:20] <rolando> how can i return to a dafault installation state of my xorg and card settings?
[12:20] <fdoving> matthias: in a terminal session: 'sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so'
[12:21] <rolando> because everytime i try to do something related to 3d acceleration my pc crashes
[12:21] <rolando> starting google earth, or glxinfo, or beryl,...
[12:21] <matthias> yeah, that should be the right command, big thx rolando :D
[12:21] <matthias> hhhm
[12:21] <matthias> fdoving ^^
[12:21] <rolando> ?
[12:21] <matthias> thx :)
[12:27] <Sharketor> hello all ahd happy xmas
[12:36] <adz21c> How do I get rid of the mounted device icons from my desktop (I prefer to use the kicker applet). I have unselected the "show device icons" option in configure desktop. Any ideas?
[12:37] <rolando> how can i return to a dafault installation state of my xorg and card settings?
[12:40] <texjoachim> rolando: rename your xorg.conf to xorg.conf_back and use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:40] <rolando> tex and what about the packages?
[12:41] <rolando> texjoachim: will it handle automatically?
[12:45] <Lynoure> I cannot find man for kwebdesktop, and for some reason it seem to download only one image for me, is there some trick to make it show all the images on the page?
[12:48] <texjoachim> rolando: it will ask you some questions about your hardware
[12:48] <rolando> texjoachim: ok thanx
[12:48] <rolando> ill give it a shot
[12:50] <zach_> ok, so I'm trying to find my secondary hard drive in this thing, and considering I've looked all over and I'm new at this, can anyone give me a hint?
[12:51] <vado> Hi'
[12:52] <zach_> hello
[12:52] <zach_> hey vado, you dont know where I can find my secondary hd in this os do you?
[12:53] <zach_> I stored all my media on it and cant find the hd now...
[12:53] <vado> you ave mount the dd?
[12:53] <zach_> what do you mean?
[12:53] <zach_> it worked when I was running xp
[12:54] <vado> hein?
[12:54] <vado> i don't understand
[12:54] <vado> my english is bad
[12:54] <zach_> do you speak english, ic
[12:54] <zach_> dont worry about it then, thanks anyways
[12:55] <vado> but i can help you if i understand wath you say
[12:56] <zach_> I have 2 hard drives, and I cant seem to find the 2nd one in this os
[12:56] <zach_> where can I find it?
[12:57] <ken> What are the consequences/advantages/disadvantages of using FAT32 as the FileSystem for My Linux machine
[12:57] <vado> you must mount the dd for us it
[12:57] <zach_> how do I mount it, I found in in the systems settings
[12:57] <vado> you can mount via the system settings
[12:58] <vado> in the ground you have drive fs system
[12:58] <vado> i think is is name
[12:59] <zach_> how do I mount it?
[12:59] <vado> in the dd settings
[01:00] <vado> you have the list of all the dd and his partition
[01:01] <zach_> ya, its an unpartitioned drive w/ files in it
[01:01] <zach_> 1 partition on it
[01:02] <vado> in order, the name, mountage point, type of fs, where is, accesibility mode
[01:02] <vado> i don't understand what your say
[01:03] <zach_> I might have it, nevermind
[01:03] <zach_> thank you anyways
[01:03] <vado> ok
[01:03] <ken> i am getting lot of compatibility problems to make Windows and Ubuntu to see each others partitions. SO i formatted Windows and installed a new XP on FAT32 (so ubuntu can safely read/write) now i am going to format Ubuntu and i need a file-system that is 100%compatible with Windows. So tell me what should i keep the Ubuntu's partition's file-system as?
[01:03] <vado> j'aurais pu t'aider plus facilement en franais
[01:03] <vado> lol
[01:04] <vado> you can read/write ext2 with a windows software
[01:05] <vado> i don't know the name
[01:05] <MistaED> although windows would make a mess of the filesystem's permissions and symlinks won't work
[01:05] <MistaED> plus no journal due to it using ext2 only
[01:08] <Petronas> hi
[01:10] <zach_> hola petronas
[01:21] <ken> Is this true: So at every boot-up, before Ubuntu starts, i will have to wait for fsck to check my HDDs and update the journals, if i have writen to a EXT3 partition from Windows in the previous boot? This happens when i write Data using that driver from windows to the EXT3 partition
[01:27] <fl1> how can i force the instalation of a package?
[01:27] <zach_> what is the correct mounting point for a secondary hard drive?
[01:28] <russ> hello there i am new user and thouhgt i would drop in to say "Hi"
[01:30] <russ__> wierd little thing that is, why doe's this IRC thing have diffrent names for one user ?
[01:33] <Lathiat> russ__: what do you mean "different names"?
[01:33] <russ__> well i guess i had better get down to the question at hand, is there anyway to get Unreal 2: the awaking to run under linux natively ?, i know it can be done with the other games in the unreal franchise but i can find no documentation for this one.
[01:34] <Lathiat> hm no idea on that one sorry
[01:34] <Lathiat> http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2643&forum=8&post_id=12520
[01:34] <Lathiat> wine/cedega/crossover may work
[01:34] <russ__> well on my IRC window thing on the left side there is a little drop down menu thing that has my name 3 times with an under score thing
[01:35] <russ__> thanks for the links i will give them a shot
[01:35] <Lathiat> hrm not sure
[01:36] <russ__> i am not sure either but i can communicate so i guess it does not matter too much :)
[01:36] <Lathiat> oh, they are probably alternate nicknames
[01:36] <Lathiat> in case 'russ' is in use already
[01:36] <russ__> oh, well now that is handy
[01:36] <russ__> Cool learn somthing new everyday
[01:38] <russ__> well that link has answered my question thank you lathiat
[01:42] <russ__> well i guess i should go now and see if i can't get my game running under wine, you all have a safe and mery christmas.
[01:59] <kay> !de
[01:59] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:04] <joth> Can someone please help with an ipod issue?
[02:04] <joth> I'm trying to get my ipod nano to work, but it doesn't mount or anything.
[02:05] <joth> I've installed everything from adept that seems relevant, but nothing happens when I connect it.
[02:05] <joth> Any help would be much appreciated.
[02:08] <joth> Anyone?
[02:09] <fdoving> !ipod
[02:09] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[02:11] <joth> Tried it, but it doesn't help me, as I can't get it to appear on the Desktop or anywhere at all
[02:13] <ashesh> !"
[02:18] <fdoving> joth: then i can't help you.. i'm afraid. I don't have an ipod. the one i had is probably still swimming in the sea somewhere.
[02:27] <lotolt> Hello @ all and Happy Christmas to everyone
[02:28] <PFY-guy> happy christmas
[02:33] <dennister> hey ppl...both synaptic and adept keep crashing
[02:34] <dennister> and I want to rip my gorgeous new 3-cd tom waits collection, and that's not working either :(
[02:38] <dennister> segmentation faults, core dumped
[02:38] <dennister> will restart...perhaps this will fix all probs
[02:39] <os2mac> Has anyone tried to download the feisty-desktop-i386.iso and run it from CD?
[02:41] <os2mac> because I have d/l the .iso (from file and .torrent) and have tried to run it and it fails in the same spot every time.. I have tried 5 times.
[02:43] <Lathiat> os2mac: try burning at a lower speed
[02:43] <josh_> hi everyone
[02:43] <josh_> i just got a monitor
[02:43] <josh_> for christmas
[02:43] <Lathiat> oh, feisty
[02:43] <josh_> and kubuntu doesnt let me put the resolution to 1440x900
[02:43] <Lathiat> os2mac: yoru askign for trouble
[02:43] <os2mac> why is that?
[02:43] <Lathiat> !resolution
[02:43] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:43] <josh_> is there a way to put a custom resolution?
[02:44] <os2mac> I am not installing just running from CD.
[02:44] <Lathiat> os2mac: development release ;) sometimes their broken -- especialyl if its a daily build
[02:44] <os2mac> and I can read the disk and get a splash screen it just fails to load.
[02:46] <os2mac> and the .md5 checks out...
[02:46] <dennister> merry xmas people
[02:46] <os2mac> beginning to think it's a bad .iso file.
[02:46] <os2mac> Merry Christmas Dennister...
[02:47] <dennister> great way to wake up; lovely new 3cd set, can't rip and can't install either, both synaptic and adept crash at startup...nor can i install with apt-get
[02:48] <rysiek|pl> back
[02:48] <dennister> what do i do when i get: segmentation fault (core dumped)?
[02:49] <PFY-guy> is it telling you y?
[02:50] <dennister> that's the error message i get in cli when i try to install
[02:50] <PFY-guy> if you run the application from a terminal does it give a more detailed output of the error?
[02:50] <dennister> nope...seg fault...is all i get in response
[02:51] <PFY-guy> even from a console?.. no more information in the console window itself?
[02:51] <dennister> nope
[02:52] <PFY-guy> any configuration change the night before?
[02:53] <dennister> nope
[02:54] <dennister> can't remember last time i installed anything, either
[02:54] <PFY-guy> only thing i can think of atm to try first is remove the config directory and re-run the program
[02:54] <dennister> "remove the config directory"? how?
[02:54] <PFY-guy> so i guess that would be 'sudo rm -Rv /root/.synaptic'
[02:55] <dennister> ty, will try
[02:55] <PFY-guy> or.. if you wnat to keep the config files just incase
[02:55] <dennister> yes?
[02:55] <PFY-guy> u could always do mv instead of rm and place the files somewhere else
[02:55] <dennister> that would probably be safer :)
[02:56] <PFY-guy> so it would look like 'sudo mv -Rv /root/.synaptic /media/backup'
[02:58] <dennister> the -R is apparently an invalid option
[03:00] <PFY-guy> ok... R is used incase of sub-directories.. there might not be so it should be safe to leave it off
[03:00] <PFY-guy> just put -v
[03:00] <PFY-guy> instead of -Rv
[03:01] <phobiac> Merry christmas everybody!
[03:02] <phobiac> Does anyone know the hotkey manager that kubuntu uses?
[03:02] <PFY-guy> sry.. no idea
[03:02] <PFY-guy> ummm.. khotkeys?
[03:03] <dennister> ok, that's what I figured...but there doesn't seem to be any file or directory called /root/.synaptic
[03:03] <phobiac> Hmm, says there's a communication problem.
[03:03] <PFY-guy> u might find the hotkeys in the kcontrol panel
[03:04] <phobiac> Alright, thank you
[03:04] <dennister> smething with the latest adept-update must have screwed it up
[03:04] <PFY-guy> ok.. so from the terminal if you type sudo synaptic what happens?
[03:05] <dennister> i get asked for password, i enter it, synaptic tries to start, but before i see any text it exits, with konsole message: Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[03:07] <PFY-guy> ok.. try removing it then re-installing it
[03:07] <PFY-guy> 'sudo apt-get remove synaptic'
[03:07] <PFY-guy> and then 'sudo apt-get install synaptic'
[03:07] <PFY-guy> hopefully, it will fix the problem by re-installing the application
[03:08] <dennister> i can't use that line for removing or installing any application, including synaptic...i get the seg fault (core... message again
[03:10] <PFY-guy> ok.... what kubuntu or ubuntu are you using?
[03:10] <dennister> kubuntu edgy
[03:10] <phobiac> dennister: Try deleting the contest of /var/cache/apt/*.bin
[03:11] <phobiac> conents*
[03:11] <phobiac> ...contents*
[03:12] <PFY-guy> thanks phobiac... im running out of ideas... my last thought was to not use konsole or X environment at all, but ot ctrl+alt+f2, log in, run the apt-get remove, then apt-get install and then ctrl+alt+f to get back into the gui and try synaptic from there again
[03:13] <PFY-guy> last ctrl+alt+f is ment to be ctrl+alt+f7
[03:13] <phobiac> PFY-guy: A quick google search makes me think that /maybe/ what I suggested should solve it.
[03:13] <dennister> phobiac: ty, that worked :)
[03:14] <phobiac> dennister: You're welcome. Merry christmas man.
[03:14] <PFY-guy> .. lol.. forgot about google... its early in the am here..
[03:14] <PFY-guy> thanks
[03:14] <dennister> hey, maybe i can now ript my gorgous new 3-cd tom waits collection :)
[03:14] <dennister> brawlers, bawlers, and bastards :)
[03:15] <php-freak> can someone tell me how I can open .rar files?
[03:15] <PFY-guy> you need to install unrar
[03:16] <phobiac> php: However with unrar sometimes newer rar files don't work.
[03:16] <prophit_inc> gm everyone
[03:16] <nixternal> unrar-nonfree supposedly fixex that issue
[03:16] <phobiac> php: I had this issue...last resort was I had to grab a 7zip .exe and boot into windows to unzip it.
[03:17] <phobiac> nix: Ah, okay.
[03:17] <prophit_inc> anyone know of an app that will let me make really futuristic pictures without any real art talent?
[03:17] <nixternal> prophit_inc: gimp
[03:17] <nixternal> i have no art talent and i can use it
[03:17] <php-freak> so what should I download to open .rar files?
[03:17] <nixternal> plus there are a lot of good tutorials for gimp as well
[03:17] <prophit_inc> yeah i dont really like gimp
[03:17] <phobiac> prophit: Kidnap an artist.
[03:18] <phobiac> Although that's not really an app.
[03:18] <PFY-guy> php-freak: unrar, and unrar-nonfree
[03:18] <prophit_inc> didnt really work for me the way i wanted it to....it took control of all my pic types
[03:18] <nat> Hi, can someone help me to configure my wifi connexion ?
[03:18] <PFY-guy> ark will use it to view and extract rar
[03:18] <phobiac> nat: What's the issue?
[03:18] <phobiac> Won't connect?
[03:18] <nixternal> prophit_inc: how did it take control of all ofyour pic types?
[03:19] <php-freak> is it part of the package manager?
[03:19] <nat>  iwlist eth1 scan
[03:19] <nat> eth1      Interface doesn't support scanning : No such device
[03:19] <prophit_inc> like when it was installed after that...every picture i clicked on opened in gimp
[03:19] <nat> and I also have something in dmesg
[03:19] <nixternal> hmm...every pic i click on still opens in gwenview or whatever konqi uses
[03:19] <PFY-guy> php-freak: more like a seperate app that ark can use as a plugin i think
[03:19] <nat> bcm43xx: Error: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available or load failed
[03:19] <php-freak> I installed it, but I don't think ark knows it theres
[03:20] <phobiac> nat: try installing the wlassitant
[03:20] <PFY-guy> php-freak: sorry, u mean available through apt, synaptic, adept
[03:20] <prophit_inc> yeah i dont run linux anymore...but i still try to go open source
[03:20] <nixternal> nat: are you using bcm43xx-fwcutter?
[03:20] <prophit_inc> company puters and they run windows
[03:20] <nat> I don't know I just finish the install of kubuntu
[03:20] <PFY-guy> php-freak:, you may have to log off and back on again
[03:20] <phobiac> prophit: There's something you man make fractals with
[03:20] <PFY-guy> (or close and re-open konqueror and ark)
[03:21] <php-freak> I did, I restarted it
[03:21] <phobiac> I think it's called apophosis
[03:21] <nixternal> nat: lspci |grep Broadcom
[03:21] <nat> I ve wlassistant but ifup don't want to bring my eth up
[03:21] <nixternal> nat: what card is listed?
[03:21] <php-freak> pfy-guy: yea I download it thgouht apt
[03:21] <prophit_inc> whats a fractal?
[03:21] <nat> :00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[03:21] <PFY-guy> php-freak: when you click on the file and ark opens does it read it?
[03:21] <nixternal> nat: with broadcom cards you need to either use bcm43xx-fwcutter if your card supports it
[03:21] <prophit_inc> i want to make really nice abstract kinda art....
[03:21] <phobiac> prophit: Google is your friend
[03:21] <php-freak> hold on let me check the message
[03:21] <prophit_inc> wierd shit you know
[03:22] <nat> it's a linksys pcmcia
[03:22] <phobiac> prophit: Then fractals might be perfect for you
[03:22] <php-freak> The utility unrar is not in your PATH. i get this message
[03:22] <nixternal> nat: you need to use ndiswrapper for that card
[03:23] <prophit_inc> well ill look at that program i found the site
[03:23] <PFY-guy> The utility unrar is not in your PATHThe utility unraphp-freak: one sec
[03:23] <nat> ha ok
[03:23] <nixternal> !ndiswrapper
[03:23] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:23] <prophit_inc> ty phobiac
[03:23] <phobiac> prophit: Np man. Merry christmas.
[03:23] <php-freak> PFY-guy: : okay thanks man ;)
[03:23] <phobiac> ! hotkeys
[03:23] <ubotu> hotkeys: A hotkeys daemon for your Internet/multimedia keyboard in X. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.7.4 (edgy), package size 141 kB, installed size 384 kB
[03:23] <php-freak> !rar
[03:23] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[03:24] <php-freak> !info unrar-free
[03:24] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[03:24] <phobiac> Hmm nope that doesn't help me.
[03:24] <PFY-guy> php-freak: are both unrar and unrar-nonfree installed?
[03:24] <php-freak> im checking now
[03:25] <php-freak> unrar free is only
[03:25] <nixternal> unrar is the one that doesnt' support the newest rar formats
[03:25] <PFY-guy> install both..
[03:25] <php-freak> nixternal: Yea, and I think this might be a new rar format, is there anyways of resolving that.
[03:25] <nixternal> with rar i haven't had any issues opening a rar file, however i barely have to use it
[03:25] <php-freak> okay let me install both
[03:26] <dennister> this cd collection is just soooo cool...packed in a book that's about 1/2 inch thick; great gift for an english major
[03:26] <phobiac> php: You have access to a windows computer?
[03:26] <php-freak> lol no
[03:26] <php-freak> maybe I can send someone the file
[03:26] <mauro> just install unrar
[03:26] <php-freak> k hold on its installing
[03:26] <mauro> theres no point in installing both
[03:26] <php-freak> guess what
[03:26] <php-freak> its opened up
[03:26] <PFY-guy> yay ;)
[03:26] <phobiac> Woo
[03:26] <nixternal> woohoo
[03:26] <shenmue> hi
[03:27] <phobiac> shenmue: Hi
[03:27] <php-freak> hehe lol yea
[03:27] <dennister> first time in many years i have not received a book for xmas...and yet i did :)
[03:28] <shenmue> does Firefox has add-ons so that i can browse website using Konqueror like "Access Keys"?
[03:28] <phobiac> dennister: I got a bunch of books. 1984, animal farm, brave new world, and something else from Orwell
[03:28] <shenmue> phobiac: :)
[03:28] <dennister> guess i'll have to go out and buy the inheritance of loss now...congrats phobiac, all very good books
[03:28] <phobiac> shenmue: You mean like alt+ something?
[03:29] <phobiac> dennister: However the one I can't wait to pick up is The God Delusion by Dawkins
[03:29] <php-freak> You guys ever used blogs ?
[03:29] <dennister> i think i've read them all...what kind of book is that? any genre?
[03:29] <php-freak> I'm a seo freak, hehe, and I think this blog is going to work
[03:29] <phobiac> Nice shiny cover too. Can't wait to walk into school with that one.
[03:29] <phobiac> php: I set up wordpress once...wasn't too hard.
[03:29] <shenmue> phobiac: nope, its Ctrl
[03:30] <phobiac> dennister: It's bascially a book about how God doesn't exist and religion isn't needed anymore.
[03:30] <nixternal> php-freak: http://blog.nixternal.com > http://planet.ubuntu.com
[03:30] <phobiac> Look up Richard Dawkins
[03:30] <phobiac> shenmue: Well firefox does have hot keys.
[03:30] <shenmue> phobiac: like the pic in http://amarok.kde.org/blog/archives/291-KDE-Misfeature.html
[03:30] <dennister> ahh...sounds like my grade 12 english essay...more than 25 years ago
[03:31] <dennister> old hat for me, but then again, i'm old :)
[03:31] <shenmue> phobiac: it's hot keys which you can use them to go to specific link
[03:31] <phobiac> shenmue: I think there might be a firefox extension for that.
[03:32] <phobiac> dennister: You might like the book then.
[03:32] <phobiac> shenmue: Give me a second
[03:32] <dennister> she won the booker for inheritance of loss...i might
[03:32] <shenmue> phobiac: i search the add-on site, only find nothing :(
[03:32] <shenmue> phobiac: :P
[03:32] <phobiac> dennister: Richard Dawkins is a guy..are you talking about some other Dawkins?
[03:33] <nixternal> shenmue: that is an accessibility feature for those that can't use a mouse, but i always thought if they can't use a mouse, how in the hell are they going to use a keyboard
[03:33] <phobiac> shemue: What I was just about to do.
[03:33] <dennister> booker prize books are usually awesome -- 95% of the time...sorry, i was talking about desai, the author of inheritance of loss, which is the book i want
[03:33] <nixternal> but my cousin can't use a mouse but can use a keyboard...so i guess i just answered my own question
[03:33] <shenmue> nixternal: i hate mouse, haha
[03:34] <phobiac> dennister: Ahh okay
[03:34] <nixternal> i hate synaptic touchpad working when my mouse is plugged in :)
[03:34] <dennister> i removed touchpad...although adept updates reinstalls it all the time
[03:34] <phobiac> shenmue: I don't know how to help you any further. Sorry. :(
[03:35] <dennister> but at least i've got it out of my xorg conf :)
[03:35] <phobiac> My touchpad amuses me.
[03:35] <phobiac> I went from windows to linux recently. My touchpad has one of those scrollbar spaces on it.
[03:36] <phobiac> Didn't work in all but two things on windows...works in everything on Linux :D
[03:36] <dennister> <5-month old linux noob
[03:36] <shenmue> nixternal: keyboard is more efficient
[03:36] <nixternal> phobiac: same here
[03:36] <shenmue> phobiac: thanks all the same
[03:36] <phobiac> And they say windows is more hardware friendly. lol
[03:37] <dennister> but i've got mythtv working 95% perfect :)
[03:37] <phobiac> shenmue: Have a good christmas though
[03:37] <shenmue> phobiac: merry xmas to you
[03:37] <dennister> actually, in the case of my irblaster for the hauppauge 150 tuner, windows is more friendly
[03:37] <dennister> although i hate to admit it
[03:38] <phobiac> Ahhh christmas...the snow plugin on beryl has never been more appropriate.
[03:39] <phobiac> brb
[03:39] <dennis_> hi there
[03:39] <dennister> that's the one thing i haven't been able to do yet with mythtv: change the channel of my digital cable setop box...although i could in winblows
[03:40] <dennis_> ehm, hello?
[03:40] <dennister> hey dennis_: like ur nic :)
[03:40] <dennis_> goed heh?
[03:41] <cathal> did santa come to everyone this morning ? :-)
[03:41] <dennis_> can anyone help me I'm one of the ubuntu victems
[03:41] <dennister> <---is ripping orphans :)
[03:41] <dennister> a ubuntu victim?
[03:42] <dennis_> yep, got it, but cant manage it
[03:42] <cathal> didnt know ubuntu had victims these days
[03:42] <dennister> heheheh...well this is a support channel
[03:42] <dennis_> i call the news
[03:42] <dennister> u a linux noob dennis_?
[03:43] <dennis_> noob?
[03:43] <cathal> thats would be yes then :-)
[03:43] <dennister> ok...guess u are: a newbie
[03:43] <Danker> Whats is command for extracting .tar.bz2 file?
[03:43] <dennis_> ok
[03:43] <Danker> Command parameters
[03:43] <dennister> what can we help u with?
[03:43] <dennis_> well...
[03:43] <Danker> Merry Christmas, by the way ;)
[03:43] <dennister> and soon you'll stop being a microshaft victim...
[03:43] <cathal> Danker: TAR -ZXVF ?
[03:43] <dennis_> would like to see dvd's amongst other things
[03:44] <shenmue> Danker: tar xvjf foo.tar.bz2
[03:44] <dennis_> i end up installing codecs but nothing works
[03:44] <Danker> thanks
[03:44] <dennister> ok, then you need to install libdvdcss2...
[03:44] <dennis_> 1 minute
[03:45] <dennister> that's not available from synaptic because of licensing, but I'll find a link for u
[03:45] <cathal> dennis: have u tryed easyubuntu or automatix?
[03:45] <mauro> is there a way to umpack an RPM file ?
[03:45] <mauro> !rpm
[03:45] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[03:45] <Danker> Hmmm
[03:46] <Danker> tar: This does not look like a tar archive
[03:46] <dennister> the falcon/seveas repository is at http://seveas.theplayboymansion.net/seveas/
[03:46] <nixternal> Danker: did you try    tar -xvjf filename.tar.bz2
[03:47] <Danker> tar: bzip2: Cannot exec: No such file or directory
[03:48] <dennis_> thx dennis, give me an hour
[03:49] <shenmue> Danker: did u install bzip2 package?
[03:49] <nixternal> bzip2 is installed with K/Ubuntu
[03:49] <php-freak> chmod -r gravatars 777 hey guys am i doing this right to chmod?
[03:49] <Danker> No :D
[03:49] <Danker> Already installing...
[03:49] <Danker> :)
[03:49] <Danker> Thanks
[03:50] <nixternal> php-freak: chmod -r 777 gravatars
[03:50] <Danker> I am using debian stable minimal install :)
[03:50] <nixternal> php-freak: sorry,   chmod -R 777 gravatars
[03:50] <dennister> dennis_ i may not be here in an hour...wait for a sec
[03:50] <Danker> Extracted :)
[03:50] <nixternal> wth, bzip2 wasn't installed?
[03:50] <nixternal> how did that happen
[03:50] <dennister> you may also need to get video card drivers installed, and w32codecs
[03:51] <php-freak> now 777 is read/write full access right?
[03:51] <Danker> Thanks :)
[03:51] <nixternal> ahh Danker, ya the minimal is it
[03:51] <Danker> Yap
[03:51] <nixternal> php-freak: read, write, execute for EVERYONE
[03:51] <php-freak> hmm
[03:51] <php-freak> WARNING! WARNING! WARNING!
[03:51] <php-freak> /home/php-freak/Websites/dewitts1/seo-blogs/wp-content/gravatars
[03:51] <php-freak> is not writable.
[03:52] <nixternal> Read=4, Write=2, Execute=1 -> 4+2+1
[03:52] <php-freak> I see
[03:52] <dennister> well,...i'm sure someone will be here to help dennis_
[03:52] <nixternal> php-freak: ls -l gravatars
[03:52] <dennister> <--will have to start the heart-attack brekkie for the teen soon
[03:52] <nixternal> is everything look like --     -rwxrwxrwx
[03:53] <php-freak> yes
[03:54] <phobiac> Bye all
[03:54] <php-freak> nixternal: yea thats what im getting?
[03:54] <nixternal> hmm
[03:54] <dennister> bye phobiac
[03:54] <php-freak> is that 777?
[03:54] <nixternal> ya
[03:54] <php-freak> read write and whats the x stand for
[03:54] <dennister> too late
[03:55] <nixternal> execute
[03:55] <nixternal> -rw-rw-rw- would be    chmod -R 666 gravatars   (which makes it world read & writeable)
[03:56] <php-freak> this is a folder im trying to mod too
[03:56] <jontec> Merry Christmas everyone! :D
[03:56] <nixternal> if you ls -l gravatar, does it have     php-freak php-freak    for userid groupid?
[03:56] <Mightily-Oats> has anyone tried feisty? are there any performance gains (i know its still in alpha.. but im stuck with dapper atm)?
[03:57] <nixternal> Mightily-Oats: i use it, but at this point there is performance regression, at least for my 2 machines that run it
[03:57] <Mightily-Oats> ok, thanks
[03:57] <nixternal> im sticking with edgy for at least 6 more months
[03:58] <jontec> I'm only staying with edgy until the next one comes out. :D
[03:58] <Mightily-Oats> i coulsnt get edgy to work nicely with my machine. dropped back to dapper.. hoping that i can use feisty
[03:58] <NyaPO> I have a problem, my driver Ati are good in root ( fglrxinfo ) but not in user normal, what s the solution ?
[03:58] <jontec> Me gusta la dapper
[03:58] <php-freak> -rwxrwxrwx 1 php-freak php-freak
[03:58] <php-freak> yes
[03:58] <jontec> lol.
[04:00] <Mightily-Oats> NyaPO: i followed this guide to get my ati card to work NyaPO
[04:01] <Mightily-Oats> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Installation_Guide
[04:01] <php-freak> nixternal: you there
[04:01] <nixternal> php-freak: why it is giving you that warning, i have no idea...it is set correctly from what i can see
[04:01] <php-freak> whos knows, I got wordpress isntalled on my local drive, maybe it won't do it when I upload it to my webserver
[04:01] <nixternal> is gravatars a directory?
[04:02] <php-freak> yes
[04:03] <nixternal> hrmm..that is odd then
[04:05] <dennister> hey TheGateKeeper: merry xmas
[04:05] <Roadrunner1985> !webmin
[04:05] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[04:05] <Roadrunner1985> damn -.-
[04:05] <nixternal> huh?
[04:06] <nixternal> wow, i thought it was still in there...i wonder why they no longer support it?
[04:06] <dennister> i used to use that program myself...don't anymore
[04:06] <TheGateKeeper> dennister, merry xmas
[04:06] <nixternal> must have a bunch of security issues which aren't being fixed upstream
[04:06] <dennister> u havign a good one?
[04:07] <dennister> i also found webmin annoying after awhile...
[04:07] <TheGateKeeper> yes thanx & you?
[04:07] <Roadrunner1985> i need it to use my nfts partitions. i want to copy the data on my two harddisks
[04:07] <dennister> yepper ripping & listening to orphans
[04:07] <dennister> the bawlers cd is really good
[04:08] <dennister> tom waits must be the patron saint of manic-depressives everywhere, lol
[04:10] <dennister> Roadrunner1985: u can use other programs that work just as well...like cli
[04:10] <dennis_> dennis, how do I see which kernel I use?
[04:10] <dennister> dennis_:  do u have a terminal open?
[04:10] <Roadrunner1985> dennister. please tell me one
[04:11] <dennister> if so, just type in uname -r
[04:11] <dennis_> now
[04:11] <dennister> yes dennis_, type in: uname -r
[04:11] <dennister> what do u get?
[04:12] <dennis_> thx again
[04:12] <dennis_> kernel
[04:13] <dennister> Roadrunner1985: in command line just type in: cp -Rv <path of target ntfs partition files> <path of where you want the files copied to
[04:13] <dennister> kernel?
[04:14] <dennis_> nr
[04:14] <dennis_> i think
[04:16] <dennister> dennis_: when i type in uname-r I get: 2.6.17-10-generic, and that's my kernel...u should get something similar
[04:17] <dennis_> heb ik
[04:18] <dennister> opps, typo: uname -r
[04:18] <dennis_> but what to install from the site?
[04:19] <dennister> when u know and tell us what ur kernel is, we can probably tell you what to install from repos
[04:19] <dennis_> 2.6.15-27-386
[04:20] <Roadrunner1985> dennister: the problem is that i have no access to the harddisks
[04:20] <dennister> ok, that helps...ur using dapper on 386 platform...i take it you need to install video card drivers? r u suing ati or nvidia?
[04:20] <dennis_> ati
[04:21] <dennister> Roadrunner1985: hmmm, hold on
[04:21] <dennister> !ati
[04:21] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:21] <Roadrunner1985> okay
[04:21] <dennister> Roadrunner1985: are those hard disks on your local pc?
[04:21] <Roadrunner1985> dennister: yes
[04:22] <Roadrunner1985> one s-ata (sda1) and one ide (hdb1)
[04:22] <dennister> Roadrunner1985: in terminal, type: sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs
[04:22] <Roadrunner1985> done
[04:23] <Roadrunner1985> dennister: and now?
[04:23] <dennister> ok, now we need to mount your ntfs drives in fstab...go to K-menu--->system settings
[04:24] <dennister> now, --->Advanced --->Disks and Filesystems
[04:24] <Roadrunner1985> Oo i use Ubuntu with 2.6.15-27-386
[04:24] <dennister> ok, you can also use kcontrol to get into disks and filesystems
[04:26] <dennister> you'll see all of your partitions on both drives, but some will be enabled and your ntfs partitions probably aren't mounted or enabled
[04:26] <Roadrunner1985> yea i see this
[04:26] <mike> I am trying to install Gyach (yahoo chat) client in ubuntu
[04:27] <mike> can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong
[04:27] <dennister> Roadrunner1985: ok, select the drive that you want access to, but don't have access to yet, and right-click
[04:27] <mike> I keeeep receiving rpm is not a recognized command
[04:27] <dennister> you should get a dialog box
[04:28] <Roadrunner1985> oh dennister: i did it with disks-admin
[04:28] <cathal> mike: !rpm
[04:28] <cathal> !rpm
[04:28] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[04:28] <mike> yes Rpm
[04:28] <usuario> ol
[04:28] <dennister> do you have a dialog box Roadrunner1985?
[04:29] <dennister> rpm packages are not for ubuntu...u want deb packages if ur a newbie
[04:29] <mike> can you recomend a Yahoo chat that has voice
[04:29] <Felipe_Luiz> Algum brasileiro?
[04:29] <cathal> mike: kopete?
[04:30] <dennister> Roadrunner1985: ? have you been successful in mounting and gaining access to ur ntfs partitions?
[04:30] <Roadrunner1985> dennister. this is done now. i only need the permission to access them.
[04:30] <mike> Ok thanks I will try it
[04:30] <cathal> mike: its installed by default on kubuntu
[04:31] <mike> right
[04:31] <mike> I have tried it but it didn't have voice that I can remeber
[04:32] <dennister> Roadrunner1985: u can now type into a terminal: sudo chown -Rv user:user (your name) <whatever your partition is mounted on>
[04:32] <mike> its an instant messenger
[04:32] <mike> and has no waay to connect to chat rooms
[04:32] <mike> hmmmmmmmmmmmmm......
[04:32] <dennister> and then: chmod 666 <whatever>
[04:33] <dennister> chown sets ownership, chmod sets permissions
[04:33] <cathal> mike: well yahoo do have an official client for linux, dont know about the yahoo chat rooms dont use it but kopete does do voice
[04:33] <Roadrunner1985> thanks dennister. i did it. =)
[04:34] <dennister> great! congrats! remember the chown and chmod commands...you'll use them time and time again in ubuntu/linux
[04:34] <cathal> mike: http://messenger.yahoo.com/unix.php
[04:34] <mike> cathal I have tried to install the yahoo client but the dependencies never match up
[04:34] <tzbishop> Which system does Kubuntu use to automount devices? HAL + dbus?
[04:34] <dennis_> dennister?
[04:35] <slow-motion> hallo
[04:35] <dennister> of course the 666 only gives everyone read and write access, 776 gives almost everyone execute access, too
[04:35] <dennister> yes dennis_?
[04:35] <dennis_> ah still there
[04:35] <dennis_> got to your site, but managed nottin'
[04:36] <dennister> did u follow the hoto i gae u the link for?
[04:36] <cathal> mike: have another go and the room can try help u out.
[04:36] <mike> OK
[04:36] <dennis_> ehm, what was that?
[04:36] <dennister> ok, i'm afraid I'm an nvidia user, not ati, so i may not be able to help u much further...
[04:37] <dennister> dennis_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:37] <dennis_> ok
[04:37] <dennister> any other ati users in the channel at the moment?
[04:38] <cathal> here
[04:38] <dennis_> tell me whats an uri handler
[04:38] <dennister> great, cathal, can u help dennis with ati video card installation? he's a noob :)
[04:39] <dennis_> NOOB :-(
[04:39] <dennister> it's an affectionate term dennis_
[04:39] <dennister> i call myself that, as do lots of more experienced pps
[04:39] <dennis_> kidding, don't take me serious all the time
[04:39] <dennister> lol...k
[04:40] <dennister> cathal? can u help dennis_ here?
[04:41] <dennis_> thanks, but think i'll leave it for today
[04:41] <dennister> ok, but u will need those drivers for dvd's
[04:41] <dennis_> ok
[04:41] <dennis_> got some other things running though
[04:41] <dennister> good :) like what?
[04:42] <dennis_> got problems mp3, java, flash
[04:42] <dennis_> fixed
[04:42] <dennis_> tips for mp4?
[04:42] <dennister> great :) u'll get it all sorted out
[04:42] <dennis_> itunes mp4?
[04:43] <dennister> hmmm...don't think i've ever used them...oh, itunes...:( hate that stuff i'm afraid
[04:43] <dennister> hate the very concept of apple/ipod
[04:43] <dennis_> got it for free on my internet account i'm affraid
[04:44] <dennister> i'd just try to convert them to another format
[04:44] <dennis_> ok
[04:44] <mike> ok cathal I have a whole list of lib dependencies for yahoo messeenger
[04:44] <dennis_> thought so too
[04:44] <dennis_> so how you spend your xmas dennister?
[04:45] <dennister> had dinner with my son last night, we exchanged, saw a really bad dvd, now i have to stuff the turkey for dinner tonight
[04:45] <oem> hi all
[04:45] <dennister> have a coupla bros coming tonight at 5
[04:45] <tony__> is there anyway i can setup KMAIL to check on hotmail and gmail accounts ???
[04:45] <dennis_> your son?
[04:46] <dennister> yep...and we had a good xp vs. linux context and he didn't win :)
[04:46] <dennister> he's 18 and a resistor
[04:47] <dennis_> amai, you must be twice my age and up to date with linux!
[04:47] <dennis_> ?
[04:47] <dennister> he'd brought home a dvd and we couldn't get it to play with linux or xp...just annoying quizes
[04:47] <shenmue> tony__: maybe u can't use kmail to check your hotmail
[04:48] <aac> tony__: u can use thunderbird for this. It has cool addon
[04:48] <dennister> but anyway, i should go to stuff that turkey...cya later ppl
[04:48] <dennis_> which film?
[04:48] <dennis_> ok
[04:48] <Paolo_Weckl> today i installed kubuntu 6.10
[04:48] <dennister> momento
[04:48] <dennis_> thx again
[04:48] <Paolo_Weckl> looks very cool
[04:48] <tony__> thunderbird ?? is that in repo ??
[04:48] <dennister> np...i've always gotten losts of help here myself
[04:48] <dennis_> memento
[04:48] <shenmue> aac: thunderbrid can fetch mail from hotmail?
[04:48] <dennis_> lol
[04:48] <aac> tony__: yes mozilla-thunderbird is in repo
[04:49] <tony__> very nice. thanks i will check that out now
[04:49] <Paolo_Weckl> but how i can install firefox from the zip?
[04:49] <uhug> how can i install GNOME?
[04:49] <mike> I am trying to install Yahoo messenger
[04:49] <mike> and I am missing dependencies
[04:49] <Paolo_Weckl> i use kopete but it miss some contacts
[04:50] <mike> right palo and you cant log into the chat rooms
[04:50] <aac> tony__: u should better find addon first
[04:51] <aac> tony__: I cant remember it's name but it is described that it can fetch mail not only from gmail and hotmail but others too
[04:51] <tony__> those addon are avalible on thier website or is something i should look at in repo ???
[04:53] <aac> tony__: not in repo. Here you are: http://webmail.mozdev.org/
[04:53] <tony__> thank a lot acc .. been looking for someting like that for long time .. will post the result .. :)
[04:54] <Petronas> hey
[04:54] <Petronas> can somebody help me ?
[04:54] <Petronas> sorry for my english :
[04:54] <Petronas> :)
[04:54] <Petronas> but
[04:54] <Petronas> i will get a new laptop
[04:54] <Petronas> with Ati Mobility X1400
[04:54] <Petronas> and i want to know , if i will have 3D acceleration
[04:54] <Petronas> on kubutu
[04:55] <Petronas> one year without using linux ... and i'm lost ^^
[04:57] <aac> Petronas: see http://individual.utoronto.ca/jaelle_kitty/inspiron6400/
[04:57] <aac> Petronas: section "Enabling Native Resolution and 3D acceleration with the ATI Radeon Mobility X1400"
[04:58] <aac> Petronas: p.s. google knows everything.http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=ubuntu+Ati+Mobility+X1400+3d+acceleration&btnG=Search
[04:58] <Petronas> okay thanks aac
[04:58] <Petronas> you know , i was on linux
[04:58] <Petronas> and i know google :)
[04:58] <mike> Ok i am trying to get the gtkhtml installed
[04:58] <mike> it came as a tar bar
[04:58] <aac> I know that you know :) Just reminded :)
[04:58] <mike> taarball
[04:58] <mike> tarball
[04:59] <mike> I have it opende in ark
[04:59] <mike> now what
[04:59] <aac> mike: forget tarballs. apt-cache search gtkhtml
[04:59] <mike> I need it for yahoo messenger that I am trying to intsall
[04:59] <mildner> hi
[05:00] <mildner> how can I play a iso file without burning on cd
[05:00] <mike> I have adept
[05:01] <mike> how do I get the file through adept
[05:01] <soulrider> mildner: whatd o you mean by play ?>
[05:01] <soulrider> is it a DVD image or is it an iso from something else
[05:01] <mildner> lets say watch the film
[05:01] <soulrider> mildner: with VLC you can open ISO files to watch it
[05:01] <karmikaze> mike you pick one, press install then the apply changes button at the top of adept
[05:02] <soulrider> mildner: do you know how to install VLC ?
[05:02] <mildner> iso 790 mb
[05:02] <karmikaze> mike yahoo messenger is in kopete
[05:02] <karmikaze> the simple chat part anyway
[05:02] <mike> Ok I found GKThtml and am installing it
[05:02] <mildner> is it in adept?....I will have a look
[05:02] <karmikaze> ok
[05:03] <soulrider> mildner: do sudo aptitude install vlc
[05:03] <mike> Kopete doesnt have the chatrooms
[05:03] <karmikaze> oh
[05:03] <karmikaze> hrm
[05:03] <karmikaze> do they have a linux version of yahoo chat?
[05:03] <karmikaze> im not sure if a windows one would work even with wine or something
[05:04] <mike> yes thats what I am trying to install
[05:04] <mildner> soulrider: I just installed it
[05:04] <karmikaze> a win version mike??
[05:04] <mike> and the install has many dependencies
[05:04] <karmikaze> oh
[05:04] <mike> yes I could run the windows version
[05:04] <karmikaze> hm
[05:04] <mike> but i thought this would be a good time to try an intall
[05:05] <karmikaze> heh
[05:05] <karmikaze> oh mike i see a unix version of yahoo chat
[05:05] <karmikaze> http://messenger.yahoo.com/unix.php;_ylt=ArJhjKxq3pnCeBjzzuKrHlQbc9IF
[05:05] <karmikaze> probably old and ghetto
[05:05] <karmikaze> but it should at least do the chat rooms :P
[05:05] <mike> rigth   I have that downloaaded to the desktp
[05:05] <mike> ran the file
[05:06] <mike> but a long list of dependencies comes up
[05:06] <rysiek|pl> guys, anybody uses a gsm bluetooth phone manager worth recommending
[05:06] <karmikaze> ah cool they have good directions
[05:06] <soulrider> mildner: with VLC you can open the ISO
[05:06] <karmikaze> ah ok mike, yeah just go through adept and find all the dependancies and try again :)
[05:06] <mildner> great
[05:06] <soulrider> :)
[05:06] <karmikaze> ok time to go open prezzies heh
[05:06] <mike> I installed the GTKhtml
[05:06] <mike> and re ran the install onmesenger and now the database is locked
[05:07] <karmikaze> mike
[05:07] <karmikaze> close adept
[05:07] <karmikaze> then run dpkg or whatever
[05:07] <karmikaze> you can only install with one program at a time
[05:07] <aac> mike: use adept for installing
[05:07] <karmikaze> aac he has a non apt .deb file he is installing
[05:07] <aac> mike: u find package; right click-> Request install
[05:08] <mike> still short some dependencies that  I need
[05:08] <aac> karmikaze: he said he found package in adept as I see
[05:08] <karmikaze> keep searching in adept then
[05:08] <karmikaze> aac he is installing yahoo chat from yahoo's site
[05:08] <karmikaze> he is finding deps through adept
[05:08] <mike> right
[05:08] <karmikaze> then retrying the apt install
[05:08] <aac> adept installs depencies as well when you reqest package for install
[05:09] <karmikaze> yahoo chat is not in adept
[05:09] <mike> I\here is what I am now missing
[05:09] <karmikaze> he needs the yahoo package as kopete does not have yahoo chat groups
[05:09] <mike> libgdk-pixbuf2
[05:09] <aac> karmikaze: understood. missed that
[05:09] <karmikaze> np
[05:09] <karmikaze> hrmm
[05:09] <mike> libssl0.9.6
[05:10] <mike> xlibs
[05:10] <karmikaze> i see libgdk-pixbuf2
[05:10] <mike> I did adept search and they are not there
[05:10] <karmikaze> mike you might need to add repositories
[05:10] <karmikaze> in adept, go to the title bar and View > Manage Repositories
[05:10] <mike> karm I think it works but there is no voice if I use wine and the windows client
[05:10] <karmikaze> you need to add universe and multiverse
[05:11] <karmikaze> ok mike
[05:11] <karmikaze> if you havent added those repositories yet mike you will probably need them anyway, for mp3 and dvd support
[05:11] <mildner> soulrider: and how can i play bin/cue files?
[05:11] <mike> OK
[05:12] <mike> universe and multiverse repositories
[05:12] <karmikaze> yep mike go mid way down the list and look for a line that says:
[05:13] <karmikaze> deb http://........... edgy universe
[05:13] <karmikaze> you have to uncomment it
[05:13] <karmikaze> by right clicking
[05:13] <karmikaze> theres two so watch out
[05:14] <ricanelite> how can I check my harddrive to see if it is failing? Because I have a Mac Mini which I installed Ubuntu Linux on, But I wanted to reinstall OS X and have a partition. But now when I enter the Mac OS X install cd it comes up with a error message saying that install cannot proceed any further cause my harddrive is failing. But I have been running Ubuntu Linux for months now. I have not had any problems. So what solutions I have right
[05:14] <ricanelite> now?
[05:14] <karmikaze> the line at the bottom that says security or backport you dont want
[05:14] <mike> I have the dapper backports Universe is that the samething
[05:14] <karmikaze> nope mike
[05:15] <karmikaze> look up a few lines
[05:15] <karmikaze> there should be something that just says http://...archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu universe
[05:15] <karmikaze> ricanelite: not sure what exactly you need but fsck does the filesystem checks
[05:15] <mike> right I just enabled them
[05:15] <karmikaze> ok and mike
[05:16] <karmikaze> after the word universe
[05:16] <karmikaze> click and add multiverse right next to it
[05:16] <karmikaze> on both of those lines
[05:16] <karmikaze> deb and deb-src
[05:16] <mike> do I have to edit the sorce list to do that
[05:16] <ricanelite> how can I run that?
[05:16] <karmikaze> once youve got them enabled, and multiverse added to the end, press apply
[05:16] <karmikaze> mike this is editing the sources list :)
[05:16] <karmikaze> just through adept though
[05:17] <karmikaze> ricanelite: carefully i think :P
[05:17] <mike> how do I edit
[05:17] <karmikaze> heh sorry ricanelite im not totally sure
[05:17] <mike> it will let me clone enable and remove
[05:17] <karmikaze> mike just click the word universe
[05:17] <mike> but not edit
[05:17] <karmikaze> the text box should appear to write in it
[05:17] <mike> ok
[05:17] <karmikaze> or double click the word universe, yeah
[05:18] <karmikaze> !fsck
[05:18] <ubotu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[05:18] <karmikaze> ok mike?
[05:19] <mike> OK did it
[05:19] <mike> man I an getting godd at this
[05:19] <karmikaze> :D
[05:19] <mike> good'
[05:19] <karmikaze> ok then apply
[05:19] <karmikaze> then do fetch updates at the top
[05:19] <mike> fetch updates first
[05:19] <karmikaze> then youll have loads more packages you can search for in adept :)
[05:19] <karmikaze> apply at the bottom first
[05:19] <karmikaze> then fetch updates at the top
[05:20] <tilli> hi
[05:20] <karmikaze> hi tilli
[05:20] <tilli> whats up?
[05:21] <karmikaze> nm nm
[05:21] <mike> ok now I have to remeber wher I left off on the install
[05:21] <karmikaze> time for presents soon tho :o
[05:21] <karmikaze> hehehe
[05:21] <mike> whew !!!!!!!!!
[05:21] <karmikaze> pixbuf!
[05:21] <karmikaze> you should be able to find that one now for sure
[05:22] <mike> right thatnks karm  you a very big help
[05:22] <karmikaze> np :)
[05:22] <karmikaze> gl mike!
[05:22] <mike> oh yeah Merry Christmas
[05:22] <karmikaze> i'll be back in a bit if you need more help :D
[05:22] <karmikaze> ty ty!
[05:22] <mike> OOk ty
[05:22] <octan> hi and marry xmas to ya all
[05:23] <Hmg4>  Anyone know how to get rsync work through ssh?
[05:25] <karmikaze> rsync -e ssh ?
[05:25] <karmikaze> rtfm heh
[05:25] <Hmg4> It does not work... i don't know why
[05:25] <ricanelite> Ubuntu has no harddrive scanners?
[05:25] <octan> i need some help.. i used that easysoutce to make a source.list .. and now when i run apt-get update i get errors. 3:->. W: GPG error: i looked in the source.list easysource made to me.. it says that if i get error do some stuff.. but that doesnt work
[05:26] <octan> gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys KEY and  gpg --export --armor KEY | sudo apt-key add
[05:26] <octan> thouse wount work
[05:26] <octan> i need some help
[05:27] <octan> W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088
[05:27] <octan> W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088
[05:27] <octan> gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys A506E6D4DD4D5088 works
[05:27] <octan> but not the last command
[05:27] <octan> gpg --export --armor A506E6D4DD4D5088 | sudo apt-key add
[05:27] <mildner> how can i play a iso or a bin file without burning them
[05:28] <mike> libssl0.9.6 where can I find that Library
[05:28] <octan> mount -o loop /iso,file /path
[05:28] <octan> HEY who can help me
[05:29] <octan> goodgod
[05:29] <mildner> octan: --->mount -o loop /iso,file /path this refers to my question?
[05:30] <octan> YES
[05:31] <mildner> is ist also possible to use bin files?
[05:32] <octan> no
[05:32] <octan> mildner: but make the bin file a iso file
[05:33] <mildner> octan are you german?   ;-)
[05:33] <stamen> hi
[05:33] <stamen> how to save the settings in hdparm
[05:33] <stamen> for the drive
[05:33] <octan> mildner: no
[05:36] <mildner> octan: ---->mount -o loop /iso,file /path.......fist the file name and then the path?
[05:38] <stamen> i figured it out :)
[05:38] <octan> YES
[05:40] <mildner> octan: it also works with VLC
[05:40] <Gide0n> Merry Christmass felow penguins
[05:40] <mike> man this Yahoo cchatis a tuff install
[05:40] <mike> I need one last dependencie
[05:40] <mike> its a deb file
[05:41] <mike> how do I get it in to adept
[05:41] <Gide0n> btw what is the link for it?
[05:41] <octan> mildner ? mount  that iso and use whatever you want on it.. mildner if its a movie on a bin file.. mplayer can play bin files
[05:42] <mildner> thank you
[05:42] <octan> anyway.. i cant help more.. i got a porblem of my own i need to sort out
[05:42] <eve> hello there
[05:42] <Captain_Haddock> mike: I have a directory where I dump all downloaded packages.. I've added this directory to the source list which uses it as a local repository.
[05:43] <Gide0n> I have not been able to find the online yahoo chat
[05:43] <Gide0n> does anybody know where that is ?
[05:43] <Gide0n> or if it is still up?
[05:43] <Captain_Haddock> Gide0n: hmm?
[05:44] <Gide0n> Captain_Haddock: yeah, they use to have a browser interface made in java
[05:44] <Gide0n> that you could use to chat online in yahoo
[05:44] <octan> how do i fix my issue
[05:44] <Gide0n> and I haven't been able to find it lately
[05:44] <eve> how do you fellin? :D
[05:44] <Captain_Haddock> Gide0n: ah, ni.
[05:44] <eve> i'm new, so... :D
[05:44] <octan> W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088
[05:44] <octan> how do fix that
[05:44] <octan> i get that with apt-get update
[05:44] <Captain_Haddock> eve: fellin?
[05:45] <Gide0n> ups found it
[05:45] <Captain_Haddock> octan: This is after an apt-get update?
[05:46] <octan> Captain_Haddock: yes
[05:46] <Gide0n> but I can't run it :P
[05:46] <octan> and in my source.list i sais how it should be fixed, but that doesnt work
[05:47] <octan> gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys A506E6D4DD4D5088   works,, but not the last command  gpg --export --armor A506E6D4DD4D5088 | sudo apt-key add
[05:47] <mike> I need a specific Dependency Libssl0.6
[05:48] <mike> its a deb lib
[05:48] <mike> not kubuntu
[05:48] <mike> how do I get it into adept
[05:48] <Gide0n> run comand
[05:48] <Gide0n> then type adept
[05:48] <mike> whaat repos would I add
[05:49] <mike> OK
[05:49] <Gide0n> check mark in "run as Root" and enter a root passowrd
[05:49] <mike> I  have adept running
[05:49] <Gide0n> good
[05:50] <octan> Captain_Haddock got any ideas
[05:50] <Gide0n> well if you are running kubuntu
[05:50] <mike> and the filter for libssl0,6
[05:50] <Gide0n> it should take care of your dependencies automatically
[05:50] <Gide0n> but if you are looking for a particular one
[05:50] <mike> but I have nothing in the package winddow
[05:51] <mike> yes its specific
[05:51] <Gide0n> just start typing in the text box on the top and it will autofilter
[05:51] <mike> right I have that
[05:51] <mike> but there are no packages that show up
[05:51] <Gide0n> and if your particular one does not appear
[05:51] <mike> yes
[05:51] <Gide0n> hm just a sec
[05:52] <mike> its the last depend I need to intall yahoo chat
[05:52] <Gide0n> well I dont find that particular one in adept
[05:53] <burner> anyone use kontact with an exchange server?
[05:53] <mike> is there a deb repository that I could add
[05:53] <Gide0n> oh wait
[05:53] <Gide0n> I have libssl0.9 appear
[05:53] <Gide0n> try just typing libssl
[05:53] <mike> it has 9.8
[05:53] <mike> right I did
[05:53] <Gide0n> right
[05:53] <mike> 9.7 and above come up
[05:53] <mike> but not0.6
[05:53] <Gide0n> right
[05:54] <mike> deb has the file but I cant get itinstallled
[05:54] <mike> its a taaaarbal
[05:54] <Gide0n> hm.. where did you get it from?
[05:54] <octan> unpack it and isntall it manualy
[05:55] <mike> from debian site
[05:55] <mike> thats where I am
[05:55] <mike> I have untarred it
[05:55] <mike> but now I am not sure how to install
[05:56] <mike> I have the debian bin
[05:56] <mike> and 2 .tar.gz  files
[05:57] <mike> is there a deb repository I can get it into adept
[05:58] <ironfroggy> I have a holiday emergency I need to fix
[05:58] <ironfroggy> Does anyone know how to undelete files from a flash card via USB?
[05:58] <Gide0n> yes
[05:58] <dennis_> in which folder I can find my shoes?
[05:59] <Gide0n> you should be able to just delete them as you would do with any floppy
[05:59] <Gide0n> unless it is write-protected
[05:59] <ironfroggy> no i need to UNdelete them
[05:59] <ironfroggy> i have the ntfs undelete tool, but i cant find where the camera is being mounted
[05:59] <ironfroggy> kde seems to be doing it through a kioslave
[06:00] <Gide0n> hm
[06:00] <mike> gideon how would I install the Bin of libssl0.6?
[06:00] <ironfroggy> if i can find the right block device, i can mount it myself and do the undelete, or at least grab the full disk image to salvage from later.
[06:00] <Gide0n> well I'm not that experienced with linux yet
[06:00] <ironfroggy> anyone know where i would find the block device i can mount for a usb drive?
[06:00] <Gide0n> but I would assume that the new libssl v 0.9 should work fine
[06:03] <mike> GideOn no it doesn'nt work, this yahoo is a tuff install !!!!!!!!!!!
[06:03] <Gide0n> hm....
[06:03] <mike> man I have been doing this for over an hour
[06:03] <Gide0n> haven't tried it
[06:03] <Gide0n> are you trying to install the yahoo messenger?
[06:03] <mike> yes
[06:04] <mike> so that I can have the chatrooms with voice
[06:04] <vge> whats the newest that "in" right now? im tired and wanna try something :)
[06:04] <soulrider> does anyone know how i can submit an updated package for it to be added to the repositories ?
[06:07] <Gide0n> well let me see if I can do it
[06:07] <DaSkreech> vge: Aiglx
[06:08] <stamen> hi
[06:08] <stamen> how was the command to see the load for CPU in console
[06:08] <DaSkreech> load
[06:08] <DaSkreech> :-)
[06:08] <DaSkreech> or top I think
[06:08] <stamen> only load
[06:08] <DaSkreech> No I was just joking sorry :)
[06:09] <stamen> please tell me
[06:09] <DaSkreech> top shows you the load at the upper section of the screen
[06:09] <stamen> topload?
[06:09] <stamen> its only top
[06:10] <stamen> now I get it :)
[06:10] <stamen> 10x
[06:10] <Gide0n> well I ran into the same dependency isue
[06:10] <Gide0n> and Im trying to work around it
[06:10] <Gide0n> but quick question, why don't you use gaim?
[06:11] <stamen> interesting
[06:11] <stamen> I see only one program to load the CPU on 49%, but the other 50% are missing
[06:11] <stamen> top don't show it
[06:11] <soulrider> maybe its not being used
[06:12] <stamen> it is in use
[06:12] <octan> !flash
[06:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:12] <stamen> how to set the interrval
[06:13] <smaggard> what interval?
[06:13] <smaggard> hmm ok then
[06:14] <lezeb> Bonjour j'essais d'utiliser une webcam hercules comment savoir si cela marche?
[06:14] <soulrider> !fr
[06:14] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:14] <octan> hey
[06:14] <octan> how is gnash compared to flash
[06:15] <soulrider> dunno
[06:15] <soulrider> i think id rather install flash
[06:15] <octan> can i use gnash with fw
[06:15] <octan> *firefox
[06:15] <stamen> so I can trust on top command
[06:15] <soulrider> yes stamen
[06:15] <stamen> it never get wrong ?
[06:15] <stamen> ok
[06:15] <stamen> 10x
[06:15] <octan> soulrider: i wouild like to avoid setting up flash in chrooted env.. since im on 64 bit install
[06:16] <soulrider> uhm
[06:16] <DaSkreech> Unless you have a rootkit on your machine
[06:16] <soulrider> err, no idea then
[06:16] <DaSkreech>  then really no tools installed by default help you
[06:16] <stamen> soldier do you a command for the network bandwith
[06:16] <DaSkreech> octan: Install Gnash and tell us how it is :)
[06:16] <soulrider> DaSkreech: you can get a rootkit on linux? =/
[06:16] <octan> DaSkreech belsh,, nahh
[06:17] <octan> !flash9
[06:17] <ubotu> flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[06:17] <soulrider> stamen: try installing slurm
[06:17] <DaSkreech> You can get a rootkit on anything that runs a kernel that everythign depends on
[06:17] <stamen> ok
[06:17] <octan> !backports
[06:17] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[06:17] <DaSkreech> !gnash
[06:17] <ubotu> An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[06:17] <soulrider> DaSkreech: whoudl i be scared? :P
[06:17] <DaSkreech> soulrider: ?
[06:17] <ironfroggy> How can i get a block device for a usb drive? instead of just using a kioslave?
[06:17] <soulrider> nevermind
[06:17] <DaSkreech> I don't know what scares you so I can't tell you :)
[06:17] <ironfroggy> i need access to the raw block device
[06:18] <soulrider> DaSkreech: do yoyu know if theres a way to submit packages to the repos ?
[06:18] <DaSkreech> ironfroggy: try /dev/sd<something>
[06:18] <soulrider> some are way too outdated
[06:18] <ironfroggy> DaSkreech: it is not there.
[06:18] <DaSkreech> soulrider: Loads. What do you want to submit?
[06:18] <soulrider> conky 1.4.5
[06:18] <soulrider> and latests filelight
[06:18] <soulrider> latest*
[06:18] <ironfroggy> thats why im asking. ive looked all through, and there is nothing. i would need the usbstorage module, woudlnt it?
[06:18] <soulrider> i dont know where i put conky though
[06:18] <DaSkreech> ironfroggy: If it's already mounted then type mount on teh command line and it will tell you the device
[06:19] <soulrider> i think i deleted it =
[06:19] <DaSkreech> soulrider: are you applying to be the maintainer btw?
[06:19] <soulrider> no
[06:19] <soulrider> i just wanna submit them
[06:19] <soulrider> because htye ahve old ones in the repos
[06:19] <ironfroggy> DaSkreech: but its not mounted. its a kioslave reading it, so its not actually mounted.
[06:19] <soulrider> i dont think i could handle the responsibility of being a mantainer
[06:19] <DaSkreech> check #ubuntu-devel
[06:19] <soulrider> plsu, im still too newbie, and i cant handle a compile problem by myseld
[06:19] <soulrider> myself
[06:19] <DaSkreech> well if you keep up with a package it's helpful
[06:19] <ironfroggy> all of my holiday photos just got deleted
[06:20] <soulrider> ironfroggy: bummer, sorry to hear that
[06:20] <DaSkreech> Where is tkioslave reading it from?
[06:20] <ironfroggy> directly from the usb device
[06:21] <ironfroggy> has its own usb storage drivers, so it can skip the kernel
[06:25] <ironfroggy> how can i get a block device from /dev/bus/usb/005/011 ?
[06:30] <snook353> whey does the kontact calendar say "unable to save"?
[06:35] <snook353> i don't have 3.4, i have 3.5
[06:37] <MarkF> Im a noob to linux. Can somebody help me with installing firefox 2.0?
[06:38] <snook353> adept package manager, search firefox
[06:38] <MarkF> did that but I dont think it has 2.0
[06:38] <snook353> it doesn't, but idk what to do
[06:39] <Lynoure> MarkF: Almost certainly, if you tell them what the problem is and are you on 6.06 or 6.10
[06:39] <s3c0n6> what i have to do so i can get the libasound? it's an error for recordmydesktop setup.
[06:39] <Lynoure> (not me though, I'll be away for a bit)
[06:39] <MarkF> Im on 6.10
[06:40] <MarkF> what do I do with the .tar.gz file after I download it to the desktop?
[06:40] <stamen> u must untar it
[06:40] <stamen> tar -xzf filename
[06:40] <stamen> then the FF is ready to use
[06:41] <stamen> you must start the bin file
[06:41] <stamen> MarkF: ready ?
[06:41] <MarkF> yea
[06:42] <MarkF> Im attempting to un tar it now
[06:42] <Lynoure> MarkF: it should be included in edgy (6.10), unless I'm mistaken.
[06:42] <stamen> did u mak what I have told you
[06:42] <stamen> Lynoure: it must be, but I am not sure to use the 2.0
[06:42] <snook353> is the "unable to save" error in kontact calendar really so mysterious as google results say?
[06:42] <stamen> they told this but I have download it and install it after that
[06:43] <stamen> MarkF: try to start the FF by Alt+F2
[06:43] <stamen> write there firefox
[06:43] <stamen> and say what happens
[06:43] <Lynoure> stamen: Launchpad shows 2.0 for edgy... (I'm on dapper myself)
[06:44] <stamen> yes I know
[06:44] <MarkF> stamen: I just did altf2, nothing happend
[06:44] <stamen> thats why I told him or her to try calling the program
[06:44] <stamen> did you write there firefox
[06:44] <stamen> only firefox
[06:45] <Lynoure> see http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/web/firefox , but it is probably not installed by default in kubuntu.
[06:46] <MarkF> lynoure: I cant un tar this file.  is the command, "tar -firefox-2.0.0.1.tar.gz" ??
[06:46] <stamen> you must write tar -xzf firefox-2.0.0.1.tar.gz
[06:46] <Lynoure> MarkF: I do not recommend installing for tar.gz something you can get as a .deb
[06:47] <MarkF> Lynoure: ok, so just go to that link?
[06:47] <s3c0n6> is anyone know hot to get libasound? I get this msg: configure: error: Can't find libasound
[06:47] <Lynoure> MarkF: if you cannot get it with   sudo apt-get install firefox   I can give you a link
[06:48] <MarkF> I'll try that
[06:48] <MarkF> Dont know why I didnt think of that
[06:48] <Lynoure> Because you are not a Linux sysadmin spending Xmas in a jolly fever, maybe? =)
[06:48] <jerp> libasound is in adept package manager
[06:49] <jerp> enter the basic file and load the alsa mixer gui
[06:49] <MarkF> how do I check the version of firefox Im running via Konsole?
[06:50] <_alexdc> hola
[06:50] <_alexdc> algun hispano ?
[06:50] <Lynoure> MarkF: When you get the browser, normal Help -> About would do... there might be also an option for it
[06:50] <snook353> its a christmas miracle!  i retarted, and the kontact calendar saves my events, again!!!
[06:51] <Lynoure> MarkF: try   firefox -v
[06:51] <snook353> i want to thank everyone for thier prayers
[06:51] <MarkF> thx
[06:51] <snook353> god works in mysterious ways
[06:51] <Lynoure> !es | _alexdc
[06:51] <ubotu> _alexdc: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:52] <s3c0n6> jerp: what you meen by that? how to do it?
[06:52] <MarkF> Lynoure: hmm... I guess 6.10 comes with firefox 2.10 installed.  I though 2.10 wasnt installed because I cant watch video clips online.  I get a message telling me to install the latest plugins
[06:53] <stamen> !flash9
[06:53] <ubotu> flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[06:53] <Lynoure> MarkF: video clips come in many types, some of them requiring proprietery libraries... But I really need a hot shower now, maybe you'll get that sorted before I'm back :)
[06:53] <stamen> !backports
[06:53] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[06:54] <jerp> open Kmenu/System/PackageManager(Adept) and see if it is in your list by adding libasound in the search
[06:55] <shoxi> mmh, wo ist der deutschsprachige channel hin?
[06:58] <tony__> hey guys, why my external HD no longer mounts ? everytime i used to turn that device , i used to have icons diplaying the USB mass storage . nolonger thats the case and i have no access to this HD
[06:59] <ssmith> Where can I find a repository that has mozilla 2.0?
[07:00] <jerp> I would guess the multiverse?
[07:00] <malik__> hi all.......is there any way i can convert my ntfs data drive to ext3 without formatting it?
[07:01] <ssmith> Which Multiverse?
[07:02] <jerp> I think its something like: archive (dot) country code (dot) Ubuntu (dot) org
[07:02] <jerp> or (dot) com
[07:02] <jerp> ssmith: do the sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.kust
[07:03] <jerp> list even
[07:03] <ssmith> trying now.
[07:03] <steve_> I would like to try Opera browser, but when i download it for ubuntu 6.10 and try to install it it doesn't install
[07:03] <ssmith> new file
[07:04] <ssmith> done
[07:04] <steve_> can anyone help me out on this
[07:06] <ssmith> entered sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.kust
[07:06] <steve_> can anyone help me out on Opera browser install?
[07:06] <malik__> steve_: what kinda file it is?
[07:06] <steve_> deb
[07:07] <malik__> steve_: what happens if u click it?
[07:07] <jerp> I don't know anything about Opera
[07:08] <steve_> I right click on it and use the Kubuntu package installer
[07:08] <jerp> steve, did you see this?  http://www.opera.com/pressreleases/en/2006/07/06/02/
[07:08] <steve_> it says does not match system
[07:08] <steve_> I installed the amd64 distro
[07:09] <jerp> you'd probably have to do teh debootstrap thing then
[07:09] <jerp> the
[07:09] <malik__> steve_: right click it n then actions n then install it as root
[07:09] <steve_> tried that and it still says the same thing
[07:09] <jerp> or is it chroot
[07:10] <steve_> it syas that it doesn't match the i386 architecture
[07:10] <DaSkreech> Can I set up a script to restart kwin if it crashes
[07:10] <jerp> that chroot builds the 32bit environment for the amd64
[07:11] <DaSkreech> The kernel sems to like killing it
[07:11] <malik__> i installed it many time from opera website and from repoz as well n it did install oki , only prob is that real audio and windows media streamin doesnt quite work in linux opera..........i wud love to hear from u if it works ...........flash is not a prob
[07:13] <malik__> far as i think its the fastest browser around n better than firefox but firefox gets multimedia tick better than opera in linux
[07:14] <ZuluNut> I am a beginner should I start with Kubuntu 6.10 Edgy / Draker
[07:14] <ZuluNut> Dapper*
[07:15] <tony__> whats the shell command to open the fstab in KDE ?
[07:15] <Captain_Haddock> malik__: Considering that its widgets don't come anywhere close to FF's extensions.. ni how you can say that it's better :)
[07:15] <Captain_Haddock> But I like Opera too btw :P
[07:15] <tony__> I think opera is very slow in loading
[07:15] <ZuluNut> true
[07:16] <jerp> steve:  look at   http://process-of-elimination.net/wiki/Ubuntu_32bit_CHROOT_for_AMD64
[07:20] <malik__> Captain_Haddock: well one can make ff have all the options of opera with extensions but then it slows down alot n starts crashing.........i had it on fedora core 5 coz i cudnt get opera to work with streamin media (except flash) but i ll loose all the other browsers if i can get opera to work perfectly on linux i wud even pay some one to help me install it properly if some knows
[07:21] <dmhouse> Hey all, many people around?
[07:21] <dmhouse> I'll get to my question and see, I guess :)
[07:21] <s3c0n6> jerp: thx m8 i make it. now i can use the "recordmydesktop" very good
[07:22] <octan> !firefox sound
[07:22] <ZuluNut> netgear or linksys ?
[07:22] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0+0dfsg-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 28588 kB
[07:22] <octan> !firefox-sound
[07:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about firefox-sound - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:22] <octan> wtf
[07:22] <octan> stuid firefox gives me no sound
[07:22] <dmhouse> I have a 'Link to Application' on my desktop that runs the command 'emacs --enable-font-backend -fn "Monospace"'; but clicking it makes the Emacs icon bounce for a while but the application never launches. Entering _that exact command_ in a terminal works.
[07:23] <ZuluNut> netgear or linksys ?
[07:24] <octan> how do i get sound in firefox 2
[07:24] <jerp> s3c0n6: if you want to go over a howto check: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[07:26] <s3c0n6> now i have an other prob, recordmydesktop has ogg output format and i need something for convert it in an other like avi or mpeg, do you know anything?
[07:26] <jerp> octan, it should be with something like totem
[07:27] <s3c0n6> realy? totem can do that?
[07:27] <octan> jerp what does totem got to do with firefox ?
[07:27] <jerp> it does some video
[07:27] <octan> hu?
[07:28] <octan> firefox has mplayer plugin
[07:28] <octan> but im not getting sound from flash sites
[07:28] <octan> alltoght flash works
[07:28] <octan> as it played the flash contens nicely
[07:31] <DaSkreech> !de
[07:31] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:35] <jerp> octan, I read earlier in here that one might solve problems with firefox if they make sure....  /etc/firefox/firefoxrc ... has .... FIREFOX_DSP="aoss"  .... in it
[07:35] <octan> oh
[07:35] <octan> lemme try
[07:35] <octan> thx
[07:39] <DaSkreech> dmhouse: Whats up?
[07:41] <DaSkreech> can I watch a process and restart it if it dies?
[07:41] <lupine_85> DaSkreech: yeah
[07:41] <DaSkreech> How?
[07:41] <lupine_85> Processes get their pid stuck in /proc so you can watch that
[07:41] <lupine_85> the tricky part is automagically getting the pid to watch
[07:42] <DaSkreech> right I want to watch kwin and restart it
[07:42] <DaSkreech> otherwise I have to keep killing apps till I get to a konqui window
[07:43] <lupine_85> DaSkreech: easier would be to have a script that look like while [ true ]  ; kwin ; end;
[07:43] <lupine_85> or something similar
[07:43] <lupine_85> (have to look up the context of the while loop for bash)
[07:43] <DaSkreech> it's done
[07:43] <lupine_85> then every time kwin finishes, the while loop does another iteration and loads it again
[07:43] <DaSkreech> And if kwin dies that restarts it
[07:43] <lupine_85> yeah :)
[07:43] <DaSkreech>  That's kinda intensive though
[07:43] <DaSkreech> can It Have it check e very 5 mins?
[07:44] <lupine_85> it's not intensive
[07:44] <lupine_85> kwin won't return to the while loop until it ends
[07:44] <lupine_85> so kwin - and the while loop - get executed exactly once for every shutdown of kwin
[07:45] <DaSkreech> but kwin would have to krash at least one for that
[07:45] <DaSkreech> since KDE has a habit of starting it by itself
[07:52] <ironfroggy> ok im still having problems with my usb drive. does anyone else use them? im only able to use them through KDE apps, nothing else.
[07:56] <thompa> anybody running beryl svn try moving panel to top?
[08:00] <DaSkreech> lupine_85: So the idea is it crash kwin once then run that script?
[08:01] <lupine_85> DaSkreech: the idea is that running "kwin" without the & interrupts the flow of the script; so it only continues execution when kwin crashes. so yeah.
[08:02] <lupine_85> you might want it to be kwin --replace though, just to make sure
[08:02] <DaSkreech> Ah there we goo
[08:02] <DaSkreech> o
[08:06] <DaSkreech> Why?
[08:07] <DaSkreech> Wasn't there a website  that was rolling packages unsupported for Ubuntu?
[08:07] <ironfroggy> can i make kio stop automatically mounting my camera?
[08:09] <ironfroggy> or even a way to unmount it without disconnecting?
[08:09] <Rashid> hey?
[08:09] <Rashid> sorry was away did i miss summin?
[08:10] <Rashid> oh right
[08:11] <Rashid> hmm yeah im slightly worried cos some people working on the appeal project were saying things like the control centre should be simplified a lot and that normal users just want a nice default interface...people who want to customise things are usually savvy enough to be able to edit text files manually... 8o| I mean...
[08:11] <Rashid> DaSkreech: read above :)
[08:11] <ironfroggy> Rashid: <insert groan>
[08:11] <Rashid> ironfroggy: lol...sorry for being moany but that annoyed me a lil
[08:12] <DaSkreech> Well they are right about a nice default
[08:12] <ironfroggy> Rashid: i am with you on it. i think kde keeps too many things out of the gui configs as it is
[08:12] <Rashid> daskreech yeah i agree about that but not about simplifying control centre
[08:12] <Rashid> ironfroggy :D
[08:12] <Rashid> at least someone agrees with me :D
[08:12] <DaSkreech> I guess I'd have to see what they mean by that
[08:13] <ironfroggy> if we have a standard config, we should at least be able to have a tab in the Advanced config dialogues that list all the sections and key/value pairs
[08:13] <DaSkreech> Things like Keyboard shortcuts being under international is a bit off putting
[08:13] <ironfroggy> at least so we dont have to find which file its stored in
[08:13] <DaSkreech>  if they mean have  a big [Fix Things]  Button I think we introduce them to a new meaning for hte term kicker
[08:14] <DaSkreech> Anyone plays wesnoth?
[08:14] <pi1l> i want a process to run for a certain amount of time. how do i do that??
[08:14] <Rashid> hmm...... *thinking*
[08:14] <DaSkreech> Monitor the /proc folder for it I would suspect
[08:14] <pi1l> is there a simplier way?
[08:15] <lupine_85> or run it in the shell script with &, then sleep (some time) then killall (process name)
[08:15] <DaSkreech> Or that :)
[08:15] <lupine_85> add pid-inducing goodness for brownie points
[08:15] <DaSkreech> $! isnt it?
[08:15] <DaSkreech> No wait
[08:15] <DaSkreech>  $$
[08:16] <pi1l> i will try that, thanx
[08:16] <DaSkreech> lupine_85: Wasn't there a website that was rolling Ubuntu packages for projects ?
[08:16] <lupine_85> DaSkreech: no idea, sorry
[08:17] <DaSkreech> gwos or something?
[08:18] <Rashid> has anyone seen screenshots of the Oxygen _widget_style_ ?
[08:18] <DaSkreech> Yeah I just grabbed the PDF
[08:19] <DaSkreech> http://websvn.kde.org/*checkout*/trunk/playground/artwork/Oxygen/Presentation/presentation.pdf?rev=607422
[08:19] <Rashid> DaSkreech: the widget style not the icons right?
[08:19] <DaSkreech> The widget style is still being worked out as far as I know
[08:20] <DaSkreech> !adept crash fix
[08:20] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[08:20] <Rashid> DaSkreech: lol yup thats the icon set...have you seen the widget style? (like menus, buttons, scroll bars etc like Plastik)
[08:21] <Rashid> DaSkreech: oops didnt scroll down :$
[08:23] <Danker> How to run program in background?
[08:23] <DaSkreech> put a & after it o nteh Command line
[08:23] <Danker> I forgot that symbol :(
[08:23] <Danker> thanks
[08:24] <Danker> Hmmm
[08:24] <Danker> It doesn't let me to do this.... (ssh client)
[08:24] <Admiral_Chicago> !seen Jucato
[08:24] <ubotu> Jucato is on IRC right now!
[08:25] <Dr_willis> !seen santa clause
[08:25] <Admiral_Chicago> where is that man...
[08:25] <Dr_willis> :(
[08:26] <Dr_willis> !seen santaclause
[08:26] <ubotu> I last saw SantaClause (n=duality@ua-83-227-225-22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 1d 4h 41m 1s ago, quiting: Client Quit
[08:26] <Dr_willis> Hes real!
[08:26] <Admiral_Chicago> lol
[08:26] <CVirus> !seen GoD
[08:26] <ubotu> GOD is on IRC right now!
[08:27] <CVirus> come on
[08:27] <Dr_willis> Hes watching you!
[08:27] <Dr_willis> !seen elvis
[08:27] <CVirus> he's not
[08:27] <ubotu> I last saw Elvis (i=d49f4a16@gateway/web/cgi-irc/irc.wikia.com/x-9122b9bdf6a8902c) 18h 6m 33s ago, quiting: Remote closed the connection
[08:27] <DaSkreech> Jimmy hoffa?
[08:27] <Admiral_Chicago> !offtopic
[08:27] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[08:28] <Dr_willis> Its offtopic to talk about offtopic.. please takeit to offtopic. :)
[08:29] <ColonelPanic001> Amarok suddenly can't play mp3s (as when you start it the first time, asks if I'd like to install mp3 support), but neither can juk, it seems (I click play, it doesn't).
[08:29] <ColonelPanic001> I don't think I've done anything remotely connected with any of that lately. Has anything happened with upgrades lately, maybe?
[08:32] <T3hWiz0rd> hello everyone, happy holidays.
[08:33] <ColonelPanic001> Hi.
[08:33] <kkathman> Greetings T3hWiz0rd :)   Happy Holidays to you and all :)
[08:33] <T3hWiz0rd> ahh great kkathman is here
[08:33] <T3hWiz0rd> lol.. :-P
[08:33] <kkathman> lol
[08:33] <T3hWiz0rd> kkathman: sup man?
[08:33] <kkathman> ahhh great things...enjoying new goodies from Xmas :)
[08:34] <T3hWiz0rd> i bought th utlimate tool to keep a blonde busy:
[08:34] <T3hWiz0rd> a juicer
[08:34] <kkathman> Im not sure I wanna know ;)
[08:34] <kkathman> lol
[08:34] <T3hWiz0rd> shes been busy for 3 hours now
[08:34] <kkathman> Jack LaLane Special?
[08:34] <T3hWiz0rd> lol
[08:34] <soulrider> hi everyone!
[08:34] <T3hWiz0rd> Juicer Jr.
[08:35] <kkathman> I got my wife one of those bullet blender things...man that thing is awesome :)
[08:35] <T3hWiz0rd> lol the bullet blender
[08:35] <kkathman> thanks :)
[08:36] <T3hWiz0rd> I made salad and now im letting the family duke it out for a while.
[08:36] <kkathman> its called a Magic Bullet, but that would have been too much I think
[08:36] <kkathman> T3hWiz0rd:  this thing you can whip up low cal desserts...like using milk only to froth a nice cream topping
[08:36] <T3hWiz0rd> I don't eat any desserts.
[08:36] <T3hWiz0rd> I smacked whitneys hand today for trying to eat toffey lol
[08:36] <kkathman> or a quick pesto topping for a salad
[08:37] <karl> hi, i'm getting a kernel panic when booting the live-cd (daily build) ... init not found...
[08:37] <kkathman> T3hWiz0rd:  well I mean like fresh fruit with a little whipped topping on top
[08:37] <T3hWiz0rd> ah
[08:37] <T3hWiz0rd> man my keyboard is dyng :-(
[08:37] <ColonelPanic001> so, no one having problems with Amarok suddenly?
[08:37] <T3hWiz0rd> i think its either dying or losing signal
[08:37] <T3hWiz0rd> its hard to tell
[08:37] <kkathman> you just pop some low fat milk (which has better frothing) and whip for about 20 sec
[08:37] <ColonelPanic001> karl: no idea, sorry
[08:37] <karl> what could be the cause of the kernel panic
[08:37] <T3hWiz0rd> karl: a lot of things.
[08:37] <kkathman> you can add a little sugar if you want it to be sweet
[08:37] <T3hWiz0rd> one could be say...
[08:37] <Dr_willis> karl,  badly burnt cd for one..
[08:38] <ColonelPanic001> well, if it can't find init, it can't boot, I'd expect
[08:38] <T3hWiz0rd> Dr_willis: also overclocking
[08:38] <T3hWiz0rd> karl: a improperly overclocked bios could also cause a panic.
[08:38] <BrianSteffens> merry christmas my fellow linux-ites
[08:38] <BrianSteffens> :D
[08:38] <kkathman> merry Christmas BrianSteffens :)
[08:38] <Admiral_Chicago> merry christmas BrianSteffens
[08:38] <ColonelPanic001> linux-ite. there's a new one. heh
[08:38] <T3hWiz0rd> ehmm...
[08:38] <T3hWiz0rd> BrianSteffens: I'm jewish...
[08:38] <Admiral_Chicago> i though that said Brian Fellows
[08:38] <T3hWiz0rd> you just offended me...
[08:38] <BrianSteffens> haha
[08:38] <karl> i had to overburn the cd... could that be a cause?
[08:39] <kkathman> no he's not :)
[08:39] <ironfroggy> Is there a good way to undelete files from a flash drive?
[08:39] <kkathman> lol
[08:39] <BrianSteffens> happy holiday***
[08:39] <T3hWiz0rd> kkathman: jackass!
[08:39] <kkathman> HAHA
[08:39] <T3hWiz0rd> BrianSteffens: im not really jewish lol
[08:39] <BrianSteffens> =)
[08:39] <kkathman> he's mormon
[08:39] <Admiral_Chicago> !offtopic
[08:39] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[08:39] <Admiral_Chicago> :P
[08:39] <T3hWiz0rd> kkathman: by trade...
[08:39] <kkathman> hehe
[08:39] <ironfroggy> im stuck with a card i cant use until i undelete these files on a day that i cant run to the store for a backup card yet when i need one more than ever.
[08:39] <T3hWiz0rd> kkathman: you're a texan, so HAH!
[08:39] <kkathman> or was that you do mormon women..I forget
[08:39] <T3hWiz0rd> kkathman: got some Sarah Mclachlan playing around the house today. Its keeping tensions low.
[08:40] <kkathman> nice :)
[08:40] <kkathman> She has a good Xmas CD out
[08:40] <T3hWiz0rd> my family is a difficult one. The white side is racist, the hispanic side is a load of preemtive asskickers
[08:40] <BrianSteffens> sarah mclachlan!!!!!!!!!
[08:40] <T3hWiz0rd> and then whitneys here, so everyones trying to eat her spleen
[08:40] <BrianSteffens> my future wifeee
[08:40] <T3hWiz0rd> i would marry mclachlan just to hear her sing, shes not all that pretty.
[08:40] <kkathman> mmmm spleen eating...my favorite thing to do on Xmas
[08:41] <T3hWiz0rd>  kkathman tom cruise too
[08:41] <fdoving> the !offtopic goes for christmas things too. please #kubuntu-offtopic . thanks in advance.
[08:41] <karl> is this a chat-channel our help-channer????
[08:41] <BrianSteffens> it's an everything channel
[08:41] <fdoving> karl: help channel.
[08:41] <BrianSteffens> channer, even
[08:41] <T3hWiz0rd> ...always a stickler to ruin the holiday fun.
[08:41] <fdoving> BrianSteffens: it's not. it's a help channel. everything else should happen in #kubuntu-offtopic.
[08:41] <T3hWiz0rd> fdoving: it'd be nice if offtopic had a single soul that breathed, too...
[08:42] <T3hWiz0rd> I am quite confident everyone there died.
[08:42] <kkathman> fdoving:  have you been to -ot lately?
[08:42] <kkathman> nobody talks in -ot
[08:42] <Dr_willis> !ati
[08:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:42] <Dr_willis> looks like my 3d stopped working.. odd..
[08:42] <fdoving> no wounder, since all the OT stuff happens here.
[08:42] <ColonelPanic001> kkathman: not true. I just did :)
[08:43] <kkathman> ahh and I missed it
[08:43] <kkathman> lol
[08:43] <T3hWiz0rd> fdoving: its because having people join a sepperate channel to talk to people they're in the same room as already is rather... well, yanno, difficult to keep up with
[08:43] <kkathman> one can talk and help at the same time I think :)
[08:43] <T3hWiz0rd> especially considering this is one of 14 channels I already have open.
[08:43] <kkathman> but then I've been kicked several times cuz I wouldnt quick talking about other things in here
[08:44] <kkathman> since fdoving is taking names, I'll behave and shut up :)
[08:44] <notech> many log the channel to use as reference and to get help information, random chat just makes the logs larger and harder to find the information you want from them.
[08:46] <DaSkreech> ColonelPanic001: reinstall libxine-extracodecs if noone else has told you before :)
[08:46] <fdoving> T3hWiz0rd: it's not that you're not allowed to talk in here. just talk about kubuntu things. And we would appreciate users to understand that we need to separate support from random chatting if the support part should work to some degree.
[08:46] <T3hWiz0rd> kkathman: AIM
[08:47] <soulrider> !teamspeak
[08:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about teamspeak - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:47] <soulrider> has anyone here managed to make audio in teamspeak work ?
[08:48] <ColonelPanic001> no.
[08:48] <ColonelPanic001> I tried once, but not very hard
[08:48] <ColonelPanic001> I tried to use it with Enemy Territory, and it worked, but then I couldn't hear any sound from ET
[08:48] <ColonelPanic001> I think it uses OSS, hence only one app using sound at once
[08:48] <T3hWiz0rd> I have no problem not chatting in here. But i want to leave it with a fairly even playing field in saying that the irc atmospheres of irc have made it tense for people to really be fully receptive to *buntu distros. We should really work to make a lighter, more unified and uplifting community.
[08:49] <ColonelPanic001> but never went back and looked at it. There were articles on it though, getting it to work properly
[08:50] <notech> T3hWiz0rd: most distro channels have the offtopic rule
[08:50] <ColonelPanic001> pretty sure it's possible though.
[08:50] <kkathman> not true
[08:50] <fdoving> T3hWiz0rd: I agree, but somehow we must try to separate random chatter and support. A community with a light and nice atmosphere also needs some rules to keep it that way.
[08:50] <kkathman> notech #fedora, #suse have single channels that allow any discussions
[08:50] <T3hWiz0rd> notech: I've idled in #suse, #gentoo, #fedora ... all are open to fair chat to help keep the spirit of the OS a little more friendly, less of a government structure.
[08:51] <ColonelPanic001> I never saw a problem with off-topic discussions, as long as when someone asks a question, that takes priority
[08:51] <ColonelPanic001> but no reason to just idle otherwise.
[08:51] <ColonelPanic001> but if there's another channel for it, may as well use it.
[08:51] <ColonelPanic001> Such as for this discussion :P
[08:51] <kkathman> in fact *buntu is the ONLY channel I know that has such a hard fast rule, and it causes a very stuffy attitude
[08:51] <notech> i've been in #fedora where at times they try to push to ontopic discussions only
[08:51] <ColonelPanic001> The Colonel has spoken, damnit.
[08:51] <ColonelPanic001> :P
[08:51] <kkathman> I'd think that people would want others to feel open, fun and light, rather than stuffy
[08:52] <kkathman> but hey
[08:52] <T3hWiz0rd> push occasionally, yes. Ubuntu channels stoop to INTIMIDATION
[08:52] <ColonelPanic001> lol
[08:52] <ColonelPanic001> Intimindation
[08:52] <kkathman> anyway.. Im out
[08:52] <T3hWiz0rd> "our way or we ban you!!!@!@!"
[08:52] <ColonelPanic001> "SHUT UP OR I'LL H4XOR U"
[08:52] <ColonelPanic001> oh.
[08:52] <lupine_85> is it working?
[08:52] <BrianSteffens> don't h4x0r me :(
[08:52] <T3hWiz0rd> I am going to go make a custom T-shirt today.
[08:53] <ColonelPanic001> lupine_85: DON'T HURT ME PLZ
[08:53] <BrianSteffens> please don't ssh into my 68.214.93.45 with root password ilikecheese and h4x0r my files :o(
[08:53] <ColonelPanic001> Oh, well that's different
[08:53] <T3hWiz0rd> "Ubuntu: We are the b0rg, lower your discussion and surrender your freedoms. Resistance is futile, we will ban you!"
[08:53] <ColonelPanic001> T3hWiz0rd: that's redhat. N00b
[08:53] <ColonelPanic001> :)
[08:53] <lupine_85> BrianSteffens: only if you've got lots of pr0n
[08:53] <fdoving> !offtopic
[08:53] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[08:54] <BrianSteffens> lupine_85 sorry, fresh install and waiting on a replacement fileserver to get to my pr0n drive
[08:54] <lupine_85> aww
[08:55] <sebastian> could someone help me to reconfiger my grub bootloader?
[08:55] <adaptr> sure - what's the problem
[08:56] <lupine_85> edit /etc/grub/menu.lst
[08:56] <lupine_85> run sudo grub-install /dev/<Device-file>
[08:56] <lupine_85> done :)
[08:56] <sebastian> I'm new to kubuntu and i want that grub start windows if i do nothing
[08:56] <sebastian> oh ok, so not update-grup?
[08:56] <lupine_85> sebastian: menu.lst has an option to choose the default
[08:57] <adaptr> sebastian: then configure the windows entry as the default
[08:57] <lupine_85> it's well-commented, and there's a manpage too
[08:57] <adaptr> sebastian: be sure to set the timeout to your liking
[08:57] <jerp> T3hWiz0rd: yeah talk about stuffy:  I'm banned since I left #Xubutnu  ... for all I know they're pissed that I asked them during and desktop install whether it was better to use gdm or kdm
[08:57] <fdoving> sebastian: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/ChangeDefaultOS
[08:58] <DaSkreech> THe new KDE developer wiki looks good :)
[08:58] <sebastian> ok, thanks everybuddy, i will try the website and if i have there probs i will come back
[08:58] <ColonelPanic001> jerp: lol
[08:58] <jerp> ColonelPanic001: I swear that's all I posted
[08:59] <BrianSteffens> jerp: ....
[08:59] <ColonelPanic001> jerp: that's awesome.
[08:59] <BrianSteffens> i dunno i've found kubuntu to be the least stuffy by far of all the *ubuntu channels
[08:59] <iftiq> i can't seem to get amarok to work
[08:59] <ColonelPanic001> iftiq: I'm having problems atm as well.
[08:59] <notech> there is more to the story, or you got caught in a poorly constructed ban
[08:59] <ColonelPanic001> What's yours, specifically?
[08:59] <lupine_85> jerp: well, obviously. You should be using xdm :
[08:59] <lupine_85> :p
[09:00] <ColonelPanic001> lupine_85: BAN HIM
[09:00] <jerp> lupine, lol
[09:00] <iftiq> what problems ar you having colonel
[09:01] <ColonelPanic001> iftiq: essentially, I've used it for a while, and yesterday just randomly, it refuses to play mp3 files again.
[09:01] <lupine_85> nah, i just make fun of everyone
[09:01] <iftiq> yeah thats the problem I'm having too
[09:02] <ColonelPanic001> It offers to install support for mp3, as it normally does, but when I say "yes", it doesn't do anything.
[09:02] <ColonelPanic001> iftiq: well you're useless to me, then, aren't you? :_
[09:02] <iftiq> mine just zooms through the playlist
[09:02] <ColonelPanic001> :)
[09:02] <iftiq> alas yes
[09:02] <iftiq> I've never gotten it to work though
[09:02] <iftiq> I can play them fine on VLC
[09:02] <ColonelPanic001> yeah, that's what'll do. It's going through and if it can't play it, it goes to the next
[09:02] <ColonelPanic001> ah
[09:02] <lupine_85> ColonelPanic001: i had that on update to feisty
[09:02] <ColonelPanic001> did you just install it today or so?
[09:02] <iftiq> yeah
[09:03] <iftiq> what engine are you using?
[09:03] <ColonelPanic001> xine
[09:03] <iftiq> same
[09:03] <lupine_85> i think reinstalling kdemultimedia fixed it
[09:03] <ColonelPanic001> lupine_85: I'm on Edgy
[09:03] <iftiq> I'm on dapper drake
[09:03] <ColonelPanic001> btw, no offense, but if anyone is on dapper still, I'd stay there.
[09:03] <lupine_85> :p
[09:03] <lupine_85> edgy++
[09:03] <iftiq> kdemultimdedia?
[09:03] <ColonelPanic001> iftiq: http://winanga.wordpress.com/2006/03/18/amarok-mp3-support-in-ubuntu-dapper/
[09:03] <iftiq> can I just sudo apt get it?
[09:03] <ColonelPanic001> I think that's all I did.
[09:03] <lupine_85> !kdemultimedia
[09:03] <ubotu> kdemultimedia: multimedia apps from the official KDE release. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 20 kB, installed size 64 kB
[09:03] <BrianSteffens> edgy::edgy() { videoPerformanceForX1300Card -= 200; }
[09:04] <ColonelPanic001> lupine_85: Edgy works fine, but the upgrade was terrible, ended up just doing a clean reinstall, and there's still a couple of (very minor) bugs. For me, anyway
[09:04] <lupine_85> BrianSteffens: that'll be the fault of ATi
[09:05] <BrianSteffens> lupine_85 regardless of fault the end-result is the same and so i'm staying dapper till it's fixed lol
[09:05] <lupine_85> BrianSteffens: okies :)
[09:05] <iftiq> yeah I hate ATi
[09:07] <iftiq> also, if anyone knows how to get Comand and Conquer Generals to work in Wine with an ATi card that would be most useful
[09:07] <iftiq> albeit esoteric
[09:07] <lupine_85> iftiq: does it use DirectX?
[09:07] <iftiq> allegedly
[09:07] <iftiq> although I've never installed it
[09:07] <lupine_85> then you'd likely have more luck with cedega
[09:08] <BrianSteffens> directx is ugly code
[09:08] <iftiq> yeah I'm downloading that now
[09:08] <lupine_85> BrianSteffens: +1
[09:08] <iftiq> unfortunately I have a slow connected
[09:08] <iftiq> connection
[09:08] <dreamer> hmm, KPackage won't really work, when I want to install it asks for the root pw, I enter it, but it just keeps asking (dapper)
[09:08] <ColonelPanic001> iftiq: I'm out for a while. Do me a favor though - if you figure out your amarok problem, PM it to me?
[09:08] <iftiq> sure
[09:08] <lupine_85> dreamer: it wasnts /your/ password
[09:08] <ColonelPanic001> I'll be idle, but it'd be appreciated
[09:08] <ColonelPanic001> thansk
[09:08] <iftiq> no problem
[09:09] <dreamer> lupine_85: it says root, though it's the same on this pc
[09:09] <lupine_85> dreamer: weird. it's just a frontend to dpkg, though
[09:09] <lupine_85> and not even a very good one :p
[09:09] <sebastian> hmm. I'm still having problems with grub. When I run sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst_backup it's telling me that there is a problem with cp
[09:10] <umnik> How can I change checkspelling in Kopete from english to slovene?
[09:10] <dreamer> haha, hmm, doing the install with dpkg kinda foils too though :P
[09:10] <dreamer> subprocess dpkg-deb --control returned error exit status 2
[09:10] <lupine_85> that's an error in the .deb file, probably?
[09:11] <sebastian> there is also the way to change the menu.lst but I cant save it. Am I doing there something wrong?
[09:11] <lupine_85> sebastian: how about cp /boot/grub/menu.lst ~/Desktop/menu.lst && sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[09:11] <lupine_85> ctrl+O to save; ctrl+X to exit
[09:12] <iftiq> on another note, does anyone know how to get ati drivers for linux?
[09:12] <iftiq> i have a mobility radeon 7500
[09:12] <dreamer> lupine_85: it's an rpm
[09:12] <lupine_85> well, that would explain it
[09:12] <lupine_85> deb != rpm
[09:12] <lupine_85> !alien
[09:12] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[09:14] <sebastian> @lupine_85 that work
[09:15] <_brian> supp
[09:15] <_brian> #scrim
[09:15] <sebastian> then it tells me to save wtih ^0. What shortcut is that?
[09:17] <lupine_85> sebastian: ctrl+O (or o)
[09:18] <sebastian> ok, everythings is a little bit different then windows^
[09:19] <jdfellow> i have a simple question regarding icr protocol Hello
[09:19] <jdfellow> irc protocol
[09:19] <sebastian> I guess that worked. Thank you very much.
[09:19] <sebastian> I will try it, have to reboot
[09:20] <jdfellow> help!
[09:21] <jdfellow> i want konqueror to open konversation not kopete how do i do this?
[09:21] <VR_> im trying to add repos for the latest amarok release, but i get a 404 error. does anyone know anything about this?
[09:21] <jdfellow> for irc:// protocol
[09:33] <DaSkreech> sebastian: If you see ^<Letter> it means Ctrl+<Letter>
[09:33] <DaSkreech> M-<Letter> means Alt+<Letter>
[09:34] <DaSkreech> Blast!
[09:36] <VR_> !mp3
[09:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:42] <DaSkreech> Slow day today
[09:43] <zorglu_> as if it was an hollyday or something :)
[09:43] <dettoaltrimenti_> daskreech- how can I type in cyrillic in kubuntu? Can I change which letters are which keys to use a 'phonetic' russian keyboard?
[09:43] <DaSkreech> It's a holiday?
[09:43] <DaSkreech> that would explain why no one is at work :(
[09:44] <zorglu_> hehe :) i did that a lot while in school :)
[09:44] <DaSkreech> dettoaltrimenti_: check the System Settings -> Internationalization
[09:46] <dettoaltrimenti_> thanks daskreech
[09:47] <HnH> www.oldp.net/?l=Prorok (Please click on link)
[09:50] <DaSkreech> Night all
[09:51] <dettoaltrimenti_> I could find the russian keyboard, but is there any way to use the urdu phonetic cyrillic keyboard in kubuntu?
[09:51] <ninHer> hi all
[09:57] <Rashid> ninHer hi
[09:57] <BlindSide> hello
[09:58] <ninHer> hi Rashid
[09:58] <BlindSide> any linux gurus here lol
[09:58] <Rashid> im no guru but ill try helpin if you want :P
[09:58] <BlindSide> thx
[09:58] <BlindSide> im having trouble install G++
[09:58] <BlindSide> it sez itll break packages
[09:58] <niblets> Captain_Redbeard I till havent been able to get it working, any news idea on the iPod problem?
[09:58] <Rashid> in adept?
[09:58] <BlindSide> yeah and apt-get too
[09:58] <zorglu_> !build
[09:58] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:58] <BlindSide> the problem seems to be libc6
[09:58] <zorglu_> !build-essential
[09:59] <Rashid> blindside have you installed any c//c++ related stuff before?
[09:59] <BlindSide> its version 2.4 and i need 2.3
[09:59] <Rashid> that shouldnt happen :S
[09:59] <BlindSide> yeah i know
[09:59] <BlindSide> i havent found much about it on forums
[09:59] <zorglu_> why do you need 2.3 ?
[09:59] <Rashid> there's something like dpkg --reconfigure or dpkg --force i cant remember :S
[09:59] <BlindSide> force sounds nice...
[09:59] <Rashid> blindside try dpkg -a see what happens
[09:59] <BlindSide> lemme try that
[09:59] <Rashid> lol
[10:02] <Rashid> blindside i jus tried them it dont work
[10:02] <Rashid> BlindSide: i cant remember what the command was...do a google or a ubuntuforum search for it :S
[10:04] <BlindSide> what command is this
[10:04] <BlindSide> i tried --force but
[10:05] <BlindSide> i dunno
[10:05] <BlindSide> hey i think it worked
[10:05] <BlindSide> somehow
[10:05] <slop> help! i just got a new dvd burner, video card (old one ati, new one nvidia), and a new sound card (old ensoniq, new sound blaster)....is installing these as easy as just plugging them all in and rebooting?  or is there something i need to do beforehand?
[10:05] <Rashid> BlindSide: really!?!?
[10:06] <BlindSide> probably not
[10:06] <BlindSide> i mena it force installed
[10:06] <Rashid> BlindSide: whats it do now when you try aptitude install build-essential?
[10:06] <BlindSide> but i doubt itll work
[10:06] <Rashid> lol
[10:06] <Dr_willis> dvd burner - shuldent matter... nvidia card will require ya to intall the nvidia drivers
[10:06] <Rashid> do sudo aptitude update & sudo aptitude install build-essential
[10:06] <Dr_willis> No idea on sound.
[10:06] <slop> Dr_willis: do i have to uninstall the old fglrx drivers and then install the nvidia drivers?
[10:06] <Dr_willis> slop,  if you know what you are doing... no. :)
[10:07] <slop> Dr_willis: well this is my frist vid card upgrade...so i'm pretty new to this :P
[10:07] <Dr_willis> just changing the  Driver 'ati' or Driver "fglrx" line to vesa befor swaponmg them out . may be a good idea
[10:07] <BlindSide> lol now its asking me to downgrade some packages
[10:07] <BlindSide> i gess ill have to
[10:07] <BlindSide> atlaest i know what to do now, thank you
[10:07] <Dr_willis> ya could install the nvidia drivers now.. then just change the line to 'nvidia'
[10:07] <dettoaltrimenti_> if I'm running kubuntu, do I need any gnome packages?
[10:08] <Horst> does anyone of you use truecrypt on linux?
[10:08] <slop> Dr_willis: ok, i'll do that...thanks for the advice, merry christmas :)
[10:08] <Dr_willis> dettoaltrimenti_,   if theres gnome related tools you like/want to use...
[10:08] <BrianSteffens|af> what's the name of the dvd player that comes with kubuntu?
[10:09] <BrianSteffens|af> kaffeine! nm:)
[10:09] <Dr_willis> totem. :) oh wait thats gnome...
[10:09] <slop> Dr_willis: one more thing...whats the name of that file where i change ati/fglrx to nvidia?
[10:09] <Dr_willis> :)
[10:09] <Dr_willis> slop,  the xorg.conf file.
[10:09] <slop> Dr_willis: cool, thanks :)
[10:10] <Horst> buddys wuz up? nobody here is using truecrypt? jesus, i cant beleive it
[10:11] <Dr_willis> Cant say that ive ever used it..
[10:11] <Dr_willis> or even heard much about it
[10:12] <mindspin> !dvd
[10:12] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:12] <VR_> damn, the wiki is all changed around now
[10:13] <VR_> just when i need something
[10:14] <Horst> damn - never heard of it?
[10:14] <Horst> i 've got a problem with mounting a truecrypt volume and the keyfiles
[10:17] <Horst> anyone ideas?
[10:18] <Lynoure> Horst: I'm about to go to sleep, but in general people rarely know how to help you before you have specified the problem in detail. Like do you get an error message (what error) or what happens when you try to mount and how do you try to mount.
[10:19] <Rashid> is there any combination of the lipstik style and polyester style? i love lipstik's simplicity and pure-ness and i also like polyester's shiny ness :(
[10:19] <niblets> I have a problem with Kaffeine. Every time I put in a DVD, it comes up with the window asking what I want to do, and I coose play with Kaffeine, and then it just sits there, never loads, and I can't open Kaffeine will a DVD is in the drive.
[10:19] <towync> how do i boot up kubuntu in command line mode, i need to install newest nvidia driver and it requires me to exit all X server before i install
[10:19] <Rashid> niblets have you installed libdvdcss2?
[10:19] <niblets> Is that a recent thing?
[10:19] <Rashid> towync when you get to login screen (kdm) press ctrl+alt+f1
[10:20] <Rashid> towync then do sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[10:20] <Rashid> niblets not recent...you need o install it to be able to (illegally) play dvds...depending on whewre you live
[10:20] <Rashid> in fascist states like the US and UK playing DVDs is illegal without a license 8-)
[10:21] <niblets> I used to be able to play DVDs fine, its just recently they stopped loading in Kaffeine. (I'm in NZ, btw)
[10:21] <Horst> i have to use the keyfiles parametre, i'm on the way
[10:21] <mindspin> Rashid:I just installed it, but the disc is not readeable
[10:21] <Horst> <-- n00b
[10:21] <Rashid> mindspin installed what?
[10:21] <mindspin> libdvdxcss2
[10:21] <Rashid> mindspin hmm you sure? try restarting kaffeine or xine...maybe log in and out
[10:22] <Lynoure> Horst: Are you doing it as a root (sudo) or taken the steps needed for it not to require sudo?
[10:23] <sredna> Does anyone know where I can find a libdbus-1-3 package >= 0.94?
[10:23] <BlindSide> yay it worked thx rashid
[10:23] <niblets> Rashid how can I check its installed? Aptget?
[10:23] <BlindSide> it apears aptitude is very useful
[10:23] <towync> Rashid how do i get back to X mode after i'm all done
[10:23] <Rashid> blindside no problem dude :) yup aptitude rocks...use it instead of apt-get ;)
[10:24] <Rashid> niblets do dpkg -l | grep libdvdcss
[10:24] <towync> !dpkg
[10:24] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[10:24] <Rashid> towync after you're done do "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start"
[10:24] <niblets> ii  libdvdcss2                             1.2.9-0.0ubuntu4                  Simple foundation for reading DVDs - runtime
[10:24] <niblets> I think its installed =D
[10:24] <Rashid> niblets i think that means its installed :)
[10:24] <towync> Rashid does the stop command kill opengl stuff too? i think i need those killed as well lol
[10:24] <Horst> as root
[10:24] <Rashid> niblets now close kaffeine and start it again...see if that works
[10:25] <Rashid> towync dont worry it kills all (H)
[10:25] <niblets> trying now
[10:25] <Rashid> kk
[10:25] <towync> Rashid cool thx alot =)
[10:25] <Rashid> towync no probs dude...lemme know how it goes
[10:25] <towync> Rashid will do =) ima exit
[10:25] <Rashid> kk
[10:25] <Rashid> cya in a bit
[10:26] <Lynoure> Horst: I wish you persistence and good luck, I really must sleep now
[10:26] <towync> o forgot to copy down command haha
[10:26] <Horst> ok
[10:26] <Horst> good night Lynoure
[10:26] <Rashid> lol
[10:26] <Horst> sweet dreams lol
[10:27] <niblets> Rashid still just doesnt start. I get the loading tab in the tray, then it just stops, no error wraning or anything
[10:27] <Rashid> you mean kaffeine or the dvd?
[10:28] <niblets> Kaffeine
[10:28] <Rashid> have you clicked the icon in the system tray?
[10:28] <niblets> yeap
[10:29] <Rashid> erm.....
[10:29] <niblets> Maybe I should reinstall kaffeine? see if that helps?
[10:29] <Sanne> niblets, Rashid: maybe try starting kaffeine from a konsole and see if it spits out any errors?
[10:29] <Rashid> yeah i was gonna suggest that...if thats not a pain...also you might run into some strange dependency problems but try it if you want
[10:29] <niblets> command?
[10:30] <Rashid> sanne good idea *doh*
[10:30] <niblets> as in, what command I use
[10:30] <Rashid> kaffine :)
[10:30] <Rashid> kaffeine*
[10:30] <Rashid> K Menu > konsole > type "kaffeine"
[10:30] <niblets> just doesnt start nor error. goes to a new command line
[10:30] <Rashid> you sure???
[10:30] <niblets> absolutely
[10:31] <niblets> niblets@funny-name:~$ kaffeine
[10:31] <niblets> niblets@funny-name:~$
[10:31] <Rashid> wow...odd!
[10:31] <VR_> i forgot what the kubuntu codecs are. they're missing from the wiki, it seems
[10:31] <niblets> maybe Kaffeine is corrupted?
[10:31] <Rashid> maybe
[10:31] <Rashid> try re-installing it
[10:31] <Rashid> sudo aptitude update & sudo aptitude reinstall kaffeine
[10:31] <niblets> how do I go about that?
[10:31] <Sanne> niblets: maybe there's a stray kaffeine proccess in the backgound. What does this command give: ps aux | grep kaffeine
[10:31] <VR_> !codecs
[10:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:32] <niblets> niblets   4818  0.0  2.2  32384 11464 ?        S    08:26   0:00 kaffeine -session 1014c107dccf000116686560600000048100011_1167043199_426502
[10:32] <niblets> niblets   5722  0.0  0.1   2804   764 pts/1    S+   10:31   0:00 grep kaffeine
[10:32] <Rashid> yup kaffeine is alive
[10:32] <Sanne> nibblthen it's not running... ok
[10:32] <Rashid> do sudo killall kaffeine
[10:32] <niblets> ohk
[10:32] <Rashid> :S
[10:32] <Rashid> sanne i thought that meant it is running :$
[10:32] <niblets> its dead
[10:32] <niblets> Even if it is running, it doesnt open a window, nor play the dvd
[10:32] <Sanne> Rashid: no, this line refers only to the ps aux command
[10:33] <Rashid> sanne ah ok thanks :)
[10:33] <niblets> Now what
[10:33] <niblets> ?
[10:33] <Sanne> Rashid, niblets: wait
[10:33] <Rashid> waitin :p
[10:33] <niblets> waitin indeed
[10:34] <Sanne> Rashid, niblets: I didn't see the first pasted line, so it indeed was running, and should be killed with Rashids command
[10:34] <Sanne> sorry
[10:34] <niblets> yup
[10:34] <Rashid> sanne lol that makes me happy :D confused me for a bit
[10:34] <Rashid> niblets ok now try kaffeine @ command line
[10:34] <Sanne> Rashid: sorry, I was too hasty ;)
[10:34] <Rashid> sanne no problem :)
[10:34] <Sanne> :)
[10:34] <zorglu_> :)
[10:35] <niblets> opened now
[10:35] <Sanne> aaahhh!
[10:35] <niblets> It works! Sanne , Rashid Appreciate the help muchly
[10:35] <Rashid> niblets no problem again :)
[10:35] <Sanne> niblets: you're welcome :)
[10:35] <Rashid> feels good to help people eh sanne :D
[10:36] <Sanne> Rashid: indeed :)
[10:36] <niblets> Do you know what the actual problem was? Like, what was causign the failure?
[10:36] <Rashid> a stray kaffeine process
[10:37] <niblets> So if it happens again, just kill kaffeine @ command?
[10:37] <Rashid> yup
[10:37] <niblets> Awesome
[10:37] <niblets> =D
[10:37] <Rashid> or "sudo killall kaffeine" to be specific :)
[10:37] <niblets> yea, I know that much =P
[10:38] <Rashid> :)
[10:38] <Rashid> lol
[10:38] <niblets> Now I can finally watch my Red Dwarf!
[10:38] <Sanne> niblets: and it's always a good idea to check your proccess list with ps aux | grep progname, or graphically with a proccess watcher
[10:38] <Rashid> lol red dwarf :P
[10:38] <niblets> Sanne I will rmember that
[10:38] <niblets> Rashid love it
[10:39] <Sanne> niblets: I'm using ksysguard for that
[10:39] <Rashid> niblets lol never watched it myself...
[10:39] <Rashid> theres also "top" but i dunno how good it is (its semi graphical semi command line)
[10:39] <niblets> Sanne I could probably use that every now and then, when problems arise
[10:39] <towync> Rashid hi, i quit x to try install the nvidia driver, but when i did: sudo sh [nividia driver file here] , it says it can't open the driver file
[10:40] <Rashid> what driver are you trying to install?
[10:40] <JohnFlux> Sanne: speaking of ksysguard.. http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/3906/sensorload22oo5.png
[10:40] <Sanne> niblets: yeah, just check it out sometimes, it should be installed by default, good way also to learn about processes on your system in general.
[10:40] <Rashid> johnflux nice
[10:40] <towync> Rashid the file name is: NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9269-pkg1.run, so i tried to sudo sh that, and it says it couldn't open the file
[10:40] <Rashid> is it executable?
[10:41] <Rashid> do sudo chmod a+x
[10:41] <Sanne> JohnFlux, niblets:, yeah, ksysguard also shows nice graphs of system load and the likes
[10:41] <towync> ok
[10:41] <towync> could the sudo chmod a+x be done in konsole right now, or do i have to kill kdm again before chmod
[10:41] <JohnFlux> towync: you can chmod now
[10:42] <towync> JohnFlux cool, thx alot =)
[10:42] <towync> brb
[10:43] <niblets> Another question!
[10:43] <JohnFlux> niblets: 42!
[10:43] <Rashid> niblets gwan
[10:43] <niblets> I can't get my iPod to connect with Linux, I plug it in with amarok running, and it doesn't find the media device. It is all set up on windows already, so its not that.
[10:45] <Rashid> niblets sorry...i really dunno bout ipods... are they considered mass storage devices?
[10:45] <Rashid> niblets: if so you could try manually mounting it but if not then i really dunno :S
[10:45] <niblets> Rashid They are under windows
[10:46] <Rashid> ok in konsole/yakuake try sudo mkdir /media/ipod & sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/ipod
[10:46] <niblets> I tried manually mounting, but something made it not work. It didnt even find the device to mount
[10:46] <Rashid> really? hmm....
[10:46] <zorglu_> http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/IPod
[10:46] <Rashid> !ipod
[10:46] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[10:47] <Rashid> niblets try them
[10:47] <Rashid> testing 1 2 3 >>
[10:47] <zorglu_> hehe this link is even better :)
[10:47] <Rashid> !gnome
[10:47] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[10:47] <Rashid> zorglu :)
[10:47] <niblets> ohk
[10:50] <froud> I want to uninstall gcj and use sun-java instead, why when removing gcj does it want to also remove kubuntu-desktop and other stuff for OOo
[10:51] <Sanne> froud: you don't need to uninstall gcj, I think.
[10:52] <dmhouse> I have a 'Link to Application' on my desktop that runs the command 'emacs --enable-font-backend -fn "Monospace"'; but clicking it makes the Emacs icon bounce for a while but the application never launches. Entering _that exact command_ in a terminal works.
[10:52] <Sanne> froud: fi you install sun java from ubuntu repositories, you can later tell the system which java version to use by default, let me search the command, sec
[10:53] <froud> Sanne: thx
[10:53] <Sanne> froud: I recenty did that on Dapper and made a little text file of the steps I did, I'll pastebin it for you
[10:54] <zorglu_> dmhouse: try to set "advanced->run in terminal" to see if it help
[10:55] <dmhouse> zorglu_: yeah, that works, but it does leave an annoying shell window behind.
[10:55] <Sanne> froud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38807/
[10:55] <dmhouse> Running the code from Alt+F2 is a temporary solution I'm using.
[10:55] <zorglu_> dmhouse: sorry dunno more than that
[10:55] <computer_> does apt-get come with nvidia drivers, i tried to install a new nvidia driver and it had a bunch of errors about conflicint x and opengl files, and i'm pretty sure the update failed cuz i tried to open a game like doom3, now it just crashes out to the login screen
[10:56] <dmhouse> zorglu_: never mind, thanks anyway.
[10:56] <computer_> so now i need to go back to my old nvidia drivers, anyone know how?
[10:56] <froud> Sanne: thx
[10:57] <Sanne> froud: you're welcome, hope it helps (of course, can exchange Synaptic with Adept or apt-get or aptitude etc...)
[10:57] <froud> Sanne: yip using apt-get
[10:58] <Sanne> froud: ok, good luck then :)
[11:03] <pfeutim> somebody expirience with continous samba onput/output errors
[11:04] <izauro> hola
[11:05] <izauro> me pueden recomendar como administro IPTABLES
[11:05] <izauro> o mas bien como lo configuro
[11:05] <Hyper_Mam> !palm
[11:05] <ubotu> A good guide for setting up Palm devices is at http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/PalmOS-HOWTO.html#PC-CONNECT-USB
[11:06] <pfeutim> !samba
[11:06] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:19] <towync> how would i remove aiglx from edgy?
[11:19] <Rashid> why do you want to do that?
[11:20] <Rashid> towync why you wanna do that?
[11:21] <dwidmann> aiglx is just a module for Xorg....
[11:21] <dwidmann> You could probably stop it from loading ...
[11:23] <Rashid> you disable compositing in xorg.conf dont you? or something like that :S
[11:23] <Rashid> but towync why would yuo want to? any specific reason?
[11:25] <cathal> exiting kaffine on full screen , crashes my desktop, any ideas on what would be the cause, possibly graphics driver maybe?
[11:26] <dwidmann> crashes the whole desktop? That's odd
[11:26] <dwidmann> I wouldn't be surprised to see it crash kaffeine though ... seems like everything wants to crash when it's closed anymore
[11:27] <cathal> vlc works ok though
[11:29] <dwidmann> so, you're saying, if you have it playing @ full screen, if you alt+f4 it boots you back to kdm?
[11:31] <cathal> dwidmann: thats right, im still searching for an answer. If u come up with any ideas let me know, cheers.
[11:31] <soulrider> hi
[11:31] <cathal> new version release notes dont mention the issue
[11:32] <soulrider> !es
[11:32] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[11:32] <towync> Rashid o i was just following an install guide for beryl and it said to remove aiglx, but then later i found out that i didn't have to worry about it
[11:32] <towync> thx
[11:32] <dwidmann> cathal: What graphics driver are you using, are you using edgy or dapper, (and with what version of kde), also, what engine(the default xine engine?), with which vo(video out) driver? sound driver? file type
[11:32] <Rashid> towync cool thought so...leave aiglx its cool :D
[11:33] <dwidmann> (s) played ... I'll try to reproduce it, if possible
[11:34] <gupta> what mounts ntfs/fat partitions on boot? and what automounts cd's?
[11:35] <jonathan_> what is the command  too unlock the package maaaanager that is locked by a packkage install or upgrade
[11:35] <dwidmann> I tried using Beryl for a while ... but I've now came back to kwin, after a brief stop over in fluxbox land. I just can't get beryl to act the way I want (I suppose it's not productive to ask it to act like kwin anyway ;))
[11:35] <fdoving> !adept crash fix | jonathan_
[11:35] <ubotu> jonathan_: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[11:35] <Rashid> jonathan jus close adept innit
[11:35] <Rashid> or that :)
[11:35] <dettoaltrimenti_> is there a bittorrent client you can run in terminal?
[11:36] <Rashid> !
[11:36] <Rashid> !test
[11:36] <ubotu> Failed.
[11:36] <Rashid> !list
[11:36] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:36] <fdoving> gupta: pmount mounts cds and usb/firewire-storage devices etc. ntfs/fat can be handled in a few ways.
[11:36] <fdoving> !ntfs | gupta
[11:36] <ubotu> gupta: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[11:36] <fdoving> gupta: that page have more information on the alternatives.
[11:37] <gupta> Oh I jus wanted to know what ubuntu uses(so I can switch it off)
[11:37] <jonathan_> merry xmas all
[11:37] <cathal> dwidmann: ati, edgy, KDE 3.5.5, xine, ati audio controller, xvid, did i miss anything? :-)
[11:37] <dwidmann> dettoaltrimenti_: try the bittorrent package, seeing as there's also a bittorrent gui package, the non-gui package is probably cli
[11:37] <fdoving> gupta: that page describes the alternatives, you can probably figure out how to disable it too, from the info on that page.
[11:38] <gupta> ok thanks
[11:38] <dwidmann> cathal: okay, that's most of it, how about the video drivers being used too? I'll have to try it on my brothers computer that has the ati card ...
[11:39] <dwidmann> cathal: oh, and what vo + ao is xine using?
[11:39] <cntb> internet explorer in kubuntu ? apt-get way ?
[11:39] <cntb> !ie
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[11:40] <Rashid> testing 1 2 3 >>>
[11:40] <Rashid> !rashid is cool :D
[11:40] <Rashid> !rashid
[11:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rashid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:40] <Rashid> damn...oops was jus testing it :$
[11:41] <dwidmann> !botslap
[11:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botslap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:41] <Rashid> lol
[11:41] <dwidmann> !botsmack
[11:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botsmack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:42] <brianw> Does anyone know how to resize the external taskbar? Currently it is 2 rows, I want it to be 1 row.
[11:42] <gupta> brianw: right-click > configure
[11:42] <brianw> gupta: did that
[11:42] <brianw> gupta: I do not see any option to resize it.
[11:43] <Rashid> right click configure
[11:43] <froud> Sanne: perfect java solution, thanks
[11:43] <Dr_willis> 'size tiny'
[11:43] <theflyingfool> how do i register my user id
[11:43] <fdoving> !register | theflyingfool
[11:43] <ubotu> theflyingfool: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[11:44] <Sanne> froud: cool, glad it helped you! :)
[11:44] <brianw> I am talking baout the external taskbar, not kicker.
[11:44] <Rashid> brianw one sec lemme try it
[11:45] <brianw> I have done it before, but for the life of me can not remember how.. heh
[11:45] <gupta> brianw: right-click > configure > arrangement > size
[11:45] <brianw> that is for the kde panel though
[11:45] <Rashid> brianw hmm it appears the external taskbar is directly linked to kicker...if you resize kicker the taskbar resizes
[11:45] <brianw> not the external taskbar
[11:46] <brianw> Rashid: not here,
[11:46] <joshual> can anyone tell me how to get konqueror to display gmail fully?
[11:46] <Rashid> brianw really? what happens when you resize kicker?
[11:46] <brianw> Rashid: just the kde panel resizes
[11:46] <Rashid> joshual try changing the identification
[11:46] <Rashid> brianw did you do that in kcontrol or by right clicking the external bar?
[11:46] <joshual> Rashid: I've tried that, to what should it be set?
[11:46] <dettoaltrimenti_> !grue
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[11:47] <brianw> Rashid: right ckick external bar
[11:47] <Rashid> brianw 25px is good
[11:47] <Rashid> brianw oops wrong person lol
[11:47] <Rashid> joshual mozilla?
[11:47] <joshual> yah its set to that already
[11:48] <Rashid> brianw: hmm thats odd...inconsistency with kde :S unless its a settin? howabout if you lock/unlock the panels? :S
[11:48] <Rashid> joshual one sec lemme try with konqueror...though personally i use firefox
[11:49] <joshual> thanks
[11:51] <Rashid> joshual what features cant you use?
[11:51] <brianw> It is a bug in kicker
[11:51] <joshual> Rashid: got it... thx, I just set it to mozila 1.7x
[11:51] <brianw> i restarted kicker, and now in arrangement I can switch either panel or external taskbar to configure
[11:51] <Rashid> lol kk cool
[11:52] <slop> what program should i use to burn a movie DVD from an mpeg/avi file?
[11:52] <Biovore> dose k3b do that?
[11:52] <brianw> I thought I was losing my mind. :)
[11:52] <Biovore> I think you need transcode install though...
[11:52] <Rashid> yup
[11:52] <slop> Biovore: i just looked and all i saw was burn iso and burn data dvd
[11:54] <dwidmann> It won't be on that list, you'll have to jump into the menus for it
[11:54] <dwidmann> and if you don't see it there ... well, 1.0RC has it :)
[12:02] <towync> how do i copy files onto cd?
[12:03] <malik__> use k3b
[12:03] <towync> i don't have k3b tho =(
[12:03] <Dr_willis> then learn how to use cdrecord :)
[12:03] <Dr_willis> or install some other front end.
[12:03] <malik__> are u using gnome or kde?
[12:03] <towync> i'm using kde
[12:03] <malik__> install k3b
[12:03] <lotusleaf> so install k3b
[12:03] <towync> can i get cdrecord off of repos
[12:03] <towync> o
[12:03] <towync> ok
[12:04] <towync> how do i install k3b? =)
[12:04] <towync> from apt get install?
[12:04] <malik__> yes
[12:04] <towync> k
[12:04] <Dr_willis> Kubuntu FUNdamentals
[12:04] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install k3b
[12:04] <malik__> sudo apt-get install k3b
[12:04] <towync> cool thx =)
[12:04] <Dr_willis> or use the GUI tools.
[12:04] <towync> what do i do after that =)
[12:05] <towync> it says k3b already installed hehe
[12:05] <Dr_willis> RUn it...
[12:05] <towync> ok
[12:05] <lotusleaf> run k3b then k3b setup once and then use k3b
[12:05] <towync> ah cool, i get it now, thx alot everyone =)
[12:05] <Dr_willis> do we have to go to the ' place your right hand on the mouse... move it over to the left side... and down....  then click....' sort of tutorials? :)
[12:06] <brianw> heh
[12:06] <towync> that'd be nice =)
[12:06] <towync> lol
[12:06] <towync> yeah i'm using it now so it's good.
[12:06] <towync> thx
[12:06] <brianw> no, reomte vnc help :)
[12:06] <towync> ah that'd be even better =)
[12:06] <Dr_willis> http://www.ubuntuvideo.com/     - wonder if theres  kubuntuvideo.com
[12:06] <towync> thx =)
[12:06] <lotusleaf> In  Russia, right hand moves you
[12:07] <towync> yeah i just started burning, everything workd out =)
[12:08] <Dr_willis>      - wow my font has a hammer+sickle symbol....
[12:08] <brianw> hehe
[12:09] <cloakable> :D
[12:09] <cloakable> 
[12:09] <cloakable> :) Mine supports it o.o
[12:10] <cntb> mine sees too
[12:10] <cntb> pill
[12:10] <cntb> we need russian in linguistics
[12:10] <cntb> pill join # linguistics
[12:12] <Ace2016> hey hey i just made something really cool
[12:13] <Dr_willis> http://www.ubuntuvideo.com/ubuntu_powered_cat_feeder
[12:13] <Ace2016> i made a custom set of speakers which now accidently detect when my phone sends or recieves info,
[12:13] <Dr_willis> cooler then that? :)
[12:13] <Ace2016> well i think thats what it does