[12:31] <mdke_> merry christmas everyone
[12:34] <nixternal> merry christmas to you too mdke_
[01:23] <towsonu2003> hi
[01:24] <towsonu2003> I need some help
[01:24] <towsonu2003> trying to learn this svn thing
[01:24] <towsonu2003> anyone online?
[01:25] <linuxphotogeek> hi
[01:25] <towsonu2003> a second... lost again...
[01:25] <linuxphotogeek> join the crowd
[01:25] <towsonu2003> lol
[01:26] <towsonu2003> ok in the wiki (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/Repository) it says to edit "nano ~/ubuntu-doc/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/getting-started.xml"
[01:27] <towsonu2003> but I don't have that dir
[01:27] <towsonu2003> I dont have desktopguide even thoug I did the whole svn checkout thing...
[01:27] <towsonu2003> what am I missing?
[01:28] <linuxphotogeek> did you 'Change to your home directory.' then 'svn checkout https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos/trunk ubuntu-doc'
[01:28] <towsonu2003> yep
[01:28] <towsonu2003> here is the output of ls ubuntu-doc/ubuntu:
[01:28] <towsonu2003> browser-startpage  C  images  libs  Makefile  menus  omf  README  sample  unused  yelptest
[01:29] <linuxphotogeek> oh du! I see it know look in ~/ubuntu-doc/ubuntu/C/
[01:29] <linuxphotogeek> There is no 'desktop guide'
[01:29] <linuxphotogeek> but you'll see the directory structure
[01:30] <linuxphotogeek> pick a directory/file and have at it
[01:30] <towsonu2003> hmm, okay
[01:30] <towsonu2003> then how would I fix serverguide via this bug: https://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-doc/+bug/54937 ?
[01:30] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 54937 in ubuntu-doc "dhcp-server installation points out package in universe " [Medium,Confirmed] 
[01:30] <linuxphotogeek> to see the file enter on the command line yelp 'office.xml' as example
[01:33] <linuxphotogeek> You've been caught like me
[01:33] <linuxphotogeek> looking at a bug that is no longer a bug because the document is gone.
[01:34] <linuxphotogeek> I think the server stuff is being cut from Feisty Desktop documentation
[01:34] <linuxphotogeek> At least for now
[01:35] <towsonu2003> that's weird
[01:35] <linuxphotogeek> Maybe one of the Matthews will chime in?
[01:35] <towsonu2003> I'll ask thru the mailing list then, I think they're asleep :)
[01:36] <linuxphotogeek> There has been a lot of movement on the desktop documentation structure, and I recently got caught sleeping
[01:38] <linuxphotogeek> I sort of wish there was a published road map. I guess the svn is just that - a road map.
[01:38] <linuxphotogeek> But it has changed a lot lately.
[01:41] <linuxphotogeek>       /msg nickserv link linuxphotogeek bartho
[01:42] <towsonu2003> I agree... more documentation seems to be what is needed (even with that much documentation)
[01:44] <linuxphotogeek> register bartholane
[01:44] <towsonu2003> linuxphotogeek, be careful, you're gonna end up sending us a password :)
[01:45] <linuxphotogeek> too late
[01:45] <linuxphotogeek> now I'm trying to change it
[01:45] <towsonu2003> ouch
[01:46] <towsonu2003> make sure you change that whereever you use it. I think they log this stuff and publish on the web...
[01:48] <towsonu2003> ok sent the email.
[02:02] <nixternal> having fun?
[02:05] <linuxphotogeek> So far!
[02:06] <linuxphotogeek> Getting ready for christmas eve diner
[02:06] <linuxphotogeek> pineapple fried rice
[02:07] <nixternal> where are you at linuxphotogeek ?
[02:07] <linuxphotogeek> My laptop died an hour ago so I've had to switch to Mary's PC
[02:07] <linuxphotogeek> Idaho
[02:07] <nixternal> idapimp
[02:07] <nixternal> ;p
[02:08] <linuxphotogeek> Pacific time -- the best time
[02:08] <nixternal> nope, Central is :)
[02:08] <nixternal> CST, otherwise know to us as Chicago Standard Time
[02:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #76372 in ubuntu-doc "clean up BinaryDriverHowto/ATI" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/76372
[03:13] <nixternal> heh, i love when people do bugs for the wiki instead of just fixing it when they know how to
[03:35] <robotgeek> heh
[03:35] <robotgeek> nixternal: as a former Texan, I take offense to that. CST!
[03:36] <nixternal> hehe
[03:37] <robotgeek> Cowboys Standard Time, lol
[03:37] <nixternal> ROMO!
[03:38] <robotgeek> good game tomorrow
[03:38] <nixternal> most definitely
[03:38] <nixternal> good games all day long today
[03:40] <robotgeek> i was pretty busy today, so that was out
[03:40] <robotgeek> i just got back in
[03:40] <nixternal> i have been messing around all day
[03:40] <nixternal> wrote the KSig documentation, some KOffice documentation, and closed a few bugs at bugs.kde.org
[03:40] <nixternal> staying away from all of the kids :)
[03:41] <robotgeek> hmm, colts lost. surprising
[03:41] <nixternal> ya, to houston of all teams
[03:42] <robotgeek> are they out of the playoffs
[03:42] <nixternal> the colts?
[03:43] <robotgeek> yeah
[03:43] <nixternal> colts clinched a couple of weeks ago
[03:44] <robotgeek> hmm, they did win last week i guess
[03:44] <robotgeek> anyways, gotta eat food now. later
[03:44] <robotgeek> have a merry christmas, in case i dont see you all tommorow
[03:56] <nixternal> merry christmas to you as well!
[05:03] <Burgundavia> poningru: did you create those gifs?
[06:26] <poningru> Burgundavia: the gifs?
[06:26] <Burgundavia> poningru: on the postfix sit
[06:26] <Burgundavia> wiki page, rather
[06:27] <Burgundavia> poningru: oh, wait, wrong person
[06:27] <poningru> I kinda...
[06:27] <poningru> yeah
[06:27] <poningru> ...
[09:04] <towsonu2003> :p
[09:05] <towsonu2003> hmm, I attached some patches to a couple of bugs (very minor stuff). should I still email the list with bug links? I expect not, but...
[09:07] <towsonu2003> I assume not (have to leave). if yes, drop a note in one of those bugs pls :) here's one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-docs/+bug/48846
[09:07] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 48846 in ubuntu-docs "Crtl+Alt+Backspace doesn't restart GNOME [desktopguide - config-system] " [Low,Confirmed] 
[09:07] <towsonu2003> lol
[09:36] <froud> seasons greetings
[09:39] <Burgundavia> hey froud
[09:40] <froud> hey Burgundavia
[09:41] <froud> How's life
[09:41] <Burgundavia> not bad
[09:41] <Burgundavia> still working at Userful
[09:41] <froud> was it a good year for you
[09:41] <Burgundavia> pretty good
[09:41] <froud> kewl and the lady, how's she?
[09:42] <Burgundavia> ah, we broke up at the end of last year
[09:42] <Burgundavia> but I have a new one, met in the last little while
[09:42] <froud> Oh dear, so no wedding bels then
[09:42] <Burgundavia> nope
[09:42] <Burgundavia> and you
[09:42] <Burgundavia> ?
[09:42] <froud> kewl year
[09:42] <froud> busy as hell though
[09:42] <froud> not complaining
[09:43] <froud> but would be nice to do some of my own stuff
[09:43] <froud> finally left SuSE
[09:43] <Burgundavia> ah
[09:43] <Burgundavia> you on Ubuntu then?
[09:43] <froud> in last 2 days setup Ubuntu server firewall/router, Ubuntu file server with Samba and reinstalled by desktop with Kubuntu
[09:44] <Burgundavia> ah
[09:44] <froud> yip the ms novell story clinched it for me
[09:44] <Burgundavia> heh
[09:45] <froud> you have any Samba knowledge?
[09:45] <Burgundavia> not really
[09:45] <froud> darn
[09:46] <Burgundavia> I work in an all Linux shop, thankfully
[09:46] <froud> I can get win2k boxes to join the Samba domain, but kubuntu box won't join
[09:46] <Burgundavia> ah
[09:46] <Burgundavia> samba or AD domain?
[09:47] <froud> Samba
[09:47] <froud> net rpc join -D ENBAYA -U administrator
[09:47] <froud> return
[09:47] <froud> Unable to find a suitable server
[09:47] <Burgundavia> ah
[09:47] <Burgundavia> no idea
[09:47] <froud> But Win2K box works
[09:47] <froud> :-) go figure
[09:48] <froud> yes smbclient -L ip.address.of.samba -U%
[09:48] <froud> shows the domain
[09:49] <froud> So what's new round here
[09:51] <Burgundavia> not much
[09:51] <Burgundavia> kicked back into work after edgy's silence
[09:53] <froud> still on dapper here
[09:54] <Burgundavia> office is on dapper, home is feisty
[09:54] <froud> is it worth the upgrade
[09:55] <Burgundavia> I would wait until feisty or +1
[09:55] <froud> nother subject, perhaps you know of a groupware solution that works well
[09:56] <froud> I been looking at a few, but nothing stands out
[09:58] <Burgundavia> what are your specific needs?
[09:58] <froud> Web-based access + integration with Kontact and Outlook
[09:59] <froud> I see many don't mention install on ubuntu
[09:59] <Burgundavia> right
[09:59] <Burgundavia> need calendar, etc?
[09:59] <froud> So able to install on ubuntu
[09:59] <froud> yes usual pim
[09:59] <Burgundavia> right
[10:00] <Burgundavia> I have heard good things about kolab
[10:00] <froud> kolab 2
[10:00] <Burgundavia> and openxchange, but I have also heard it is a total beast to install
[10:01] <froud> connectors for outlook are proprietry
[10:01] <Burgundavia> ah
[10:01] <froud> but will pay for them if must :-)
[10:01] <froud> I see co.za company has developed some
[10:40] <towsonu2003> next time I buy an ATI card, kick me...
[10:41] <towsonu2003> after struggling with both BinaryDriverHowto/ATI and BinaryDriverHowto, I don't want to see the characters a, t, and i for a while... grr
[10:42] <towsonu2003> yay
[10:42] <towsonu2003> oy
[11:05] <froud> Burgundavia: Yah! Integrated Kubuntu with Samba Domain :-)
[11:05] <Burgundavia> cool
[06:28] <LaserJock> nixternal: you about?
[06:43] <nixternal> LaserJock: ya
[06:43] <nixternal> on the phone with my daughter
[06:44] <LaserJock> nixternal: then I'll leave you alone
[06:44] <nixternal> give me a cuople of minutes
[06:46] <LaserJock> nixternal: well, I didn't have anyting in particular to say. Just wanted to say thanks for the fix and Merry Christmas <><
[06:46] <nixternal> hehe
[06:46] <nixternal> no problem!
[06:46] <nixternal> Merry Christmas to you as well <><
[06:46] <nixternal> hope you and the family are well
[06:46] <LaserJock> half of them seem sick but otherwise ok :-)