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PriceChildJackBandit, still there?12:01
reconnever mind, I used timidity.12:01
un_operateurfromvega, if you down one interface it can't be pinged ;) work on that basis ;)12:01
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_fnordhow do i get sound working on a laptop?in kubuntu the problem is that he external ampifyer in kmix is turned on and other stuff turned down or muted12:02
eriksaysn2diy: true.  so firefox was crashing on you too?  i did read it looks related to the new flash plugin12:02
qoqI am trying to mount an NTFS partition from a Dapper Livecd, I made a windows director under /media and mounted it there, Now I can not cd into that mount or view contents graphically.. what am i doing wrong??12:02
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Nontitleeriksays: going to gmail.com will crash it12:02
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eriksaysnontitle: here's a nice one.  going to gmail crashes opera, too12:03
n2diyeriksays: Fiirefox worked fine for me, then I tried to install the plugins, and Dapper crashed and burned.12:03
Goshahow do i make programs to start with X?12:03
eriksaysn2diy: so the whole system crashed?12:03
fromvegaun_operateur: but man... you didn't understand. 2 NICs=> 1st connected, 2nd disconnected: ping both! 1st disconnected, 2nd connected: ping none!12:03
eriksaysn2diy: not just firefox12:03
Gosha.. or more like .. how do i set environmal variables?12:03
Nontitlethe thing is, using the epiphany browser, which uses the Gecko engine, doesn't crash at all12:03
Goshaenvironmental?12:03
Gosha*12:03
n2diyeriksays: Yes, it was a bare metal recover, total re-install.12:04
eriksaysNontitle: does the epiphany browser run flash?12:04
Nontitleyes'12:04
eriksaysNontitle: or have a plugin, i mean12:04
eriksaysthanks12:04
Gosha!scim12:04
ubotuChinese, Japanese, Korean Language input. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM12:04
qoqanyone get my earlier post? this should be pretty simple.. mounting an NTFS from a livecd12:04
Nontitleits a bit more bare than firefox but it's still okay12:04
fromvegaun_operateur: shoudn't at least the one connected be pingable?12:04
Nontitleit has tabs and everything12:04
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eriksaysNontitle, i do like firefox, especially the google notebooks plugin12:05
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cyphase_what's the command to view log on/off history12:05
Nontitlei like the adblock extension12:05
masterkhow do I skip a hard drive test?12:05
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Nontitlemasterk: you can't12:05
un_operateurfromvega, I dont really understand what you want -- at a local machine, an ifconfig lists both IP address and MAC addresses for all interfaces, at a remote machine, you know the ip address and mac addresses too -- if you ping a remote ip address, the interface with an ip address in that subnet is used12:05
Nontitlemasterk: how big is your hard drive?12:06
n2diycyphase_: your logs are in /var/log, any editor should be able to read them.12:06
raxipHello12:06
masterkwell i know my hard drive is fine12:06
masterkit is 20gb12:06
Nontitleit's just a thing that ubuntu does12:06
_fnordis best to still check12:06
cyphasen2diy: there's a command for it, i just can't remember it12:06
Nontitlei have a 20gb hd too, thats cool12:06
`richcyphase, last -10 to view the most recent 10 logins.12:06
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masterkbut linux says its bad12:06
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eriksaysNontitle: n2diy: thanks for the help, downloading epiphany now12:06
cyphase`rich12:06
_fnordmine only takes a couples minutes out of my life every 2 months12:06
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kr0n1xhi, merry christmas...btw...someone know how to delete a tiscali account??? (email...)12:07
cyphase`rich: that's it, thanx12:07
`richnp12:07
n2diycyphase, I don't know of any command to do it, I just start up gedit, and open them.12:07
Nontitlecool, i actally helped someone lol12:07
benjkwhat's the deb package name for libssl?12:07
raxipinterest12:07
Nontitlesudo apt-get install libssl*12:07
cyphasen2diy: see `rich's comment12:07
benjktried that, didn't work12:07
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Nontitleoh12:07
benjkPackage libssl is not available, but is referred to by another package.12:08
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Goshaokay, then what kind of programs can i use to input japanese?12:08
bodhiAny advice on getting a MP3 Cd to play ?12:08
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n2diycyphase: or you could use system-admin-system log, roger Rich's command, never used that before.12:08
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bodhiI keep getting an error "device does not exist"12:08
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Nontitlelibssl0.9.7 and libssl0.9.812:09
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namewhere is xorgconf12:09
Flew /etx/X11/xorg.conf12:10
Nontitle /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:10
Flew-etx +etc12:10
namenah the tool12:10
benjkhmmm12:10
Goshagah, then. how do i use scim?12:10
Gosha>_<12:10
alecjwname:  you mean xconf? sudo aptitude install xconf12:10
Nontitlenvidia-xconfig? possibly?12:10
benjkseems I have libssl098 but12:10
benjkcollect2: ld returned 1 exit status12:10
`richxorgconfig is what he's after I think12:10
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_fnorddoes anyone else see a large speed diffrence between kubuntu and ubuntu?12:10
Nontitleoh nvm12:10
benjk/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lssl12:10
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benjkcollect2: ld returned 1 exit status12:10
`rich_fnord, yeah I find ubuntu much faster, personally.12:10
sirk-how do you setup apache that all traffic gets encrypted with ssl? (I already installed ssl)12:11
Nontitle_fnord: i have both installed, i see no difference12:11
`richit's probably a case of KDE vs. Gnome on different hardware12:11
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dv5237name sudo find / -name xorgconf12:11
fromvegaun_operateur, let me try to explain better. First, I'm pinging the Linux machine from another machine in the network. The Linux machine has 2 NIC's. When I connect NIC1 to the LAN (and leave NIC2 disconnected from the LAN) I can ping both NIC1 and NIC2 from another machine. BUT when I connect NIC2 to the LAN (leaving NIC1 disconnected) I can't even ping NIC2! So I'm trying to understand why12:11
Nontitlewell not both installed, just kde and knome12:11
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Nontitlegnome*12:11
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Nontitlehey someone should invent knome lol12:11
namedv5237: i don't have it installed12:12
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ekimussirk-: you need to a) either listen on only port 443 or b) listen on 80 and 443 and redirect all traffic incoming on port 80 to port 443 (you also need to generate a certificate)12:12
grimboyHey, how do I find out what speed I can write dvds at?12:12
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dv5237name: sudo apt-get install x-window-system-core12:12
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hey_ianmerry christmas12:12
Nontitlehey ian12:12
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LinAsHgrimboy, k3b can tell you12:13
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grimboyLinAsH, Thanks12:13
laphawganyone running ubuntu on a thinkpad?12:13
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sirk-ekimus, ich wrde gern den traffic von 80 auf 443 redirecten12:13
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sirk-wie mache ich das am besten? geht das mit apache?12:13
_fnordNontitle: how fast is your machine?12:13
Nontitle1Ghz12:14
sirk-ekimus, sorry for speaking german, my mistake12:14
laphawgi can't figure out how to reactivate it when it suspends or whatever, and i have to reboot12:14
_fnord`rich: whats your computer like?ram/cpu?12:14
tom_hey guys, i've got an extra hdd in my computer, it has a bunch of permissions on it from an old comp. is there a way to mount the hdd without permissions?12:14
sirk-ekimus, I meant: how do I redirect the traffic from http:80 to https:443?12:14
neurotechmerry xmas ubuntu!12:14
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laphawgthats ok, sirk, we're watching joyeux noel here anyway12:14
Nontitleram/cpu/hd 512/1G/20G12:14
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`rich_fnord, nothing special. 512mb, 1.8ghz12:15
un_operateurfromvega, it's like this  192.168.0.1 [machineA]  10.0.0.1 <---> 10.0.0.2 [machineB]  172.16.0.1  -- machineB will always be able to ping 192.168.0.1 as long as it's up and 10.0.0.1 is up -- but if you had this  10.0.0.1 [machineA]   192.168.0.1 <---> 10.0.0.2 [machineB]  172.16.0.1  .. machineB will never be able to ping either of machineA's addresses,12:15
namedv5237: i have that already12:15
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hey_ianlaphawg: probably suspend is not supported on your machine, use the hibernate pkg12:15
dv5237name: sorry then im out op options12:15
un_operateurfromvega, the reason is -- you can only ping addresses in the same IP subnet (unless there is a router routing between the two IP networks)12:16
laphawghey_ian, thanks, i will search for info on hibernate pkg12:16
Gosha!edgy12:16
ubotuUbuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes12:16
dv5237!feasty12:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about feasty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:16
ekimussirk-: long story short: you need 2 virtual hosts 1 listening on port 80 and have the rewriteengine activated (http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/misc/rewriteguide.html#ToC2) then redirect all requests to the same url on port 443 the other listening on port 443 which will then serve the requests12:16
hey_ianlaphawg: apt-cache search hibernate12:16
laphawgtks12:17
ekimussirk-: i was just wondering how you know that I do speak german :)12:17
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sirk-I just forgot speaking english ;D12:17
namecan't anybody tell me in which pkg "xorgconfig" is?12:17
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sirk-ekimus, may I query you?12:18
ernzHi everyone.12:18
kalilaI would like to talk so someone knowledgable of ubuntu's structure and mailing lists :)12:18
fromvegaun_operateur: ok, but in my case machineA NICs IPs are 10.0.0.5 and 10.0.0.7, and machineB ip is 10.0.0.3. They are in the same subnet aren't they?12:18
corevettehow do you install grub on windows?12:18
ernzCan someone please tell me how I can convert MP4 videos into 3GP that would work on my phone please?12:18
ekimusdoes anyone know what the HE and SE extension in the amd opteron serial numbers are for? like http://amdcompare.com/us-en/opteron/Default.aspx (see column 3 and 4 of the table for example)12:18
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Phat32Hello everyone. I am working on a machine which lost it's nvidia graphics card recently due to dust and is now using an ATI graphics card. I was wondering if anyone could explain how to remove the old nvidia driver, install the ati driver, and fix xorg.conf...12:19
ekimuserr sorry meant http://amdcompare.com/us-en/opteron/Default.aspx with the socket F option...12:19
gordonjcpPhat32: a good start would be to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:20
HanselPhat32 - did you install the other driver use apt-get?12:20
Hanselif so uninstall via the same method  :)12:21
Phat32gordonjcp, I'm not confident in my ability to edit it accurately, manually12:21
SymokWould anyone here be able to help me with a few network related questions?12:21
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HanselSymok - just ask and we'll all help if we know the answer.12:21
gordonjcpPhat32: tough shit, basically12:21
Phat32Hansel, no I haven't installed the ati driver yet12:21
gordonjcpPhat32: it's easy12:21
OlatheHow do I install Sun's Java 1.6 JDK (not JRE) ?12:21
PriceChild!language gordonjcp12:21
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Toulouseolathe, it might be in synaptic12:21
gordonjcpPhat32: right, there's a "default" ATI driver12:21
Goshaokay, easy one, how do i create a file in the console?12:21
corevettePhat32, uninstall in synaptic the nvidia driver, then install the ati drivers and run: sudo apt-reconfigure xserver-xortg12:21
ekimussirk-: i just queried you...12:21
gordonjcpPriceChild: go away, you prissy imbecile12:21
PriceChild!ops12:22
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corevettephat32: i mean: sudo apt-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:22
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Symokok, first: Is there a way to make windows' "always on" hard drive shares visible in the network viewer?12:22
Phat32corevette, synaptic is a graphical tool...12:22
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SeveasLjL, too slow ;)12:22
FlyingSquirrel32if I have aiglx/beryl installed on edgy, can I still use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to fix my resolution?12:22
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Wiseguyhey guys has anyone used NeroLinux?12:22
corevettei know phat3212:22
HanselWiseguy - no... but we have all used ubuntu I imagine.12:22
Toulouselol12:22
hey_ianWiseguy: yeah12:23
Gosha>_<12:23
kitchePhat32: you just do sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia-glx also12:23
LjLSeveas: 'course, i'm still taken by childish full-screen platform games12:23
jugheadI have used and am using ubuntu Wiseguy12:23
WiseguyHansel, its a burning app douche12:23
Phat32corevette, How can I use a graphical tool when I can't use X12:23
corevettego into recovery mode phat3212:23
Wiseguydoes it work wel?12:23
Toulousehey this is probably obviouse, but do yall know the name of the default gnome irc client that is pre-installed in ubuntu?12:23
jugheadis it just a version of nero burning rom for linux?12:23
Wiseguyyes12:23
hey_ianWiseguy: But in comparison to k3b it is garbage!!!12:23
HanselWiseguy - sounded like a custom distro for burning (I'm familiar with Nero)  No need to speak of your mothers genitals12:23
PriceChildToulouse, gaim12:23
PriceChildToulouse, it does a lot more than irc12:23
Toulousegaim does it? oh man thanks12:23
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PriceChildToulouse, I prefer to use xchat-gnome though12:24
Toulousei knew it did aim12:24
Wiseguyhey_ian, really? k3b is better?12:24
bulmerPhat32: you can always boot off of the liveCD and then modify your /etc/X11/xorg.conf on your hard disk12:24
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Toulouseok, ill try those, thanks guys12:24
Phat32kitche, What about nvidia-kernel-common ???12:24
jugheadI like K3B for burning12:24
idlemindhas anyone used the nero software for linux yet?12:24
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un_operateurfromvega, it should always be possible to ping those addresses (even though it is not a good idea to have two interfaces have IP addresses in the same subnet) .. I cant really say unless I know how the physical setup of your network is structured12:24
SeveasLjL, I have a better game, figthing IE :/12:24
Phat32bulmer, I like that idea12:24
kitchePhat32: have to remove that as well I tend to use aptitude since it follows dependencies12:24
hey_ianWiseguy: of course, it has the same functions like nero, but is integrated better and is open source!!!12:24
PriceChildidlemind, what's wrong with gnomebaker?12:24
FlyingSquirrel32 can I still use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg with beryl installed?12:24
PriceChildFlyingSquirrel32, yes12:24
PriceChildFlyingSquirrel32, but don't expect beryl to work afterwards12:25
Hanselheh12:25
FlyingSquirrel32PriceChild: nice.12:25
LjLSeveas: IE as in the browser?12:25
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fromvegaun_operateur: so one NIC might be down if it's connected but I can't ping it?12:25
Seveasyes12:25
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LjLSeveas: as in who-cares-if-ubuntu-nl.org-doesn't-quite-render-on-it?12:26
PriceChildlol12:26
FlyingSquirrel32PriceChild: I set a machine up for someone and when they took it home their monitor doesn't do the resolution it was set at. how can I lower the resolution so it can start?12:26
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juanchito2006Hello, I've got an strange issue while the ubuntu's startup gets blank until the logon screen12:26
PriceChildFlyingSquirrel32, you could manually edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to remove the other resolutions?12:26
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juanchito2006It seems out of frequency12:27
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juanchito2006How can I fix it12:27
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FlyingSquirrel32PriceChild: never done that before, but I guess it's time to learn how. Thanks.12:27
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PriceChildFlyingSquirrel32, make a backup! :)12:27
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bulmerfor those that are using NVidia whats the "Driver" name you have set in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf? mine is "nv" is that optimum?12:28
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PriceChild!nvidia | bulmer12:28
ubotubulmer: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:28
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toulousei have a question, if i try to play a .mov or .avi or some other quicktime-ish format, it just tries with totem-or kaffeine then says it couldnt play it12:28
erUSUL!nvidia | bulmer12:28
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un_operateurfromvega, It probably is because MachineB is confused about where exactly which address is after you switch them around -- maybe you need to flush out the arp cache on machineB to get it working again12:28
kitchebulmer: nv is the open source version of nvidia made by X.org12:28
Bas|Khey all12:28
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Greevoustoulouse you should have the right codecs installed first12:28
FlyingSquirrel32PriceChild: ok, thanks.12:29
toulouseok12:29
Greevoustoulouse: or perhaps the plugins12:29
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un_operateurfromvega, and/or restart the networking daemon on machineA12:29
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bulmerkitche: curious as to which do you use for this NVidia?12:29
toulouseummm i  havent installed any diff. codecs12:29
toulouseshould i go to synaptic12:29
SymokI like this interface better12:29
Bas|K http://tinyurl.com/yfqmr912:29
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Greevoustoulouse: i use automatix to get some of those12:29
PriceChild!codecs | toulouse12:29
ubotutoulouse: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:29
toulouseok12:29
Greevousit seemed to work for me12:29
kitchebulmer: I use nvidia driver sicne I like direct rendering and I play tremulous once in a while12:29
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PriceChild!automatix | Greevous12:30
ubotuGreevous: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe12:30
FlyingSquirrel32PriceChild: ok, so it looks pretty simple, just remove the resolutions we don't want... anything else I should know before I should go?12:30
Greevousokay12:30
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PriceChildFlyingSquirrel32, make sure you've already made a backup12:30
GreevousAutomatix has always worked for me and my friend12:30
FlyingSquirrel32ok. ciao.12:30
Greevousand since it has plug-ins...12:30
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bulmerkitche: that "sicne" something that came with your video card cdrom or something you download from their site to optimize your video?12:30
trev_ok, if i want to make a shared network folder on my computer for my lan can anyone tell me how to do that?12:30
PriceChild!WorksForMe | Greevous12:30
ubotuGreevous: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.12:30
SurfnKidHo Ho Ho, Merry Christmas12:30
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Greevousubotu: i understand12:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about i understand - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:31
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kitchebulmer: install nvidia-glx from synaptic then open upa  terminal and type sudo nvidia-glx-config enable then restart X with ctrl+alt+backspace12:31
PriceChildGreevous, ubotu is a bot12:31
Greevouswhoops12:31
SymokWould anyone know why I can access network shares on other(windows) computers, but I can't ping them by their LAN IPs?12:31
PriceChild!nvidia | bulmer12:31
ubotubulmer: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:31
bulmerkitche: thanks12:31
ink251how do I pass options to the ipw2200 wireless module built into the kernel? Options like you would pass with modprobe.12:31
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fromvegaun_operateur: from the Linux machine (machineA), when NIC1 is connected I can ping machineB, but when NIC2 is connected I can't. Something is wrong right? Is it because both NIC have ip from the same subnet or not?12:31
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Symok(or connect to the FTP i'm running on one of them, 'no route to host')12:32
kitchePriceChild: bulmer just wanted to know what driver was better(as in best performance for the nvidia card)12:32
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PriceChildkitche, he also asked where this was obtained from 23:3012:32
ink251how do I pass options to the ipw2200 wireless module built into the kernel? Options like you would pass with modprobe.12:33
un_operateurfromvega, thats where your problem about distinguishing IP subnets comes in -- how does the kernel know which interface to send packets out through if the destination is the same IP subnet as two of the connected interfaces??12:33
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xyzis fd0 the floppy drive ?12:33
ekimusxyz: /dev/fd0? yes12:34
un_operateurfromvega, simple rule in networking : never ever assign IP addresses to multiple interfaces in the IP subnet, you will always have looping problems12:34
xyzomg i have installed grub in the wrong place12:34
xyzi didnt puy /dev/12:34
ekimusxyz: so? just reinstall it in the right place12:34
xyzhow12:34
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fromvegaun_operateur: ok, thank you! I'll try to fix it12:35
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juanchito2006!startup screen missing outof frequency12:35
xyz!grub12:35
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto12:35
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fatlipmalikeye: hey you there?12:35
juanchito2006!startup12:35
ubotuTo add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup12:35
un_operateurfromvega, not only will that confuse MachineA(the sender) it will also confuse MachineB(the reciever) because machineB will say "hang, on, i got one packet from one MAC address, another from another MAC address, but they are in the same subnet, which MAC address do i reply to??)12:35
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trev_should you have hdparm running as a service?12:36
Hanselyes12:36
un_operateurtrev_, hdparm as a service??12:36
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ajji'm trying to instll ubuntu, is there anyway i can install it using a cd drive emulator like alcohol, or do i have to burn it to a disc and boot it from there?12:37
trev_yeah, its in the service settings under system/administration12:37
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_fnordwhats that comand, lspcmica?12:37
namedammit is there any good X config tool/12:37
tanubis_Just got an Ipod Nano, itunes doesn't run in linux.  Apparently, you can do some interesting things with it if you put linux on it... anyone now how to go about doing cool things with it?12:37
un_operateurwhatis hdparm : hdparm (8)           - get/set hard disk parameters12:37
nametanubis_: amarok12:37
Hanselname - vi makes a good config tool for the config file  :)12:37
nameoh wait12:37
nameHansel: na12:37
nameHansel: i want some tool12:37
un_operateurtanubis, check out the ipodlinux website12:37
xyz 1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on12:37
xyzunionfs                1165328    677012    488316  59% /12:37
namedual view support12:37
xyzthis doesnt seem rite12:37
fromvegaun_operateur, but shoudn't it reply to the ip and mac that it received the ping request from?12:38
namewith one CRT and one TFT12:38
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fromvegaun_operateur, 2 ip, 2 mac. 2 different places. Shoudn't be a problem for machineB. Am I right?12:38
juanchito2006Ubotu is a bot!!! I can't believe it :-o12:38
juanchito2006Ubotu is a bot!!! I can't believe it :-O12:38
kitchetanubis_: ipodlinux does not work on the newer nanos12:38
xyzjuanchito2006:i know12:39
un_operateurfromvega, well, yes, thats how it works -- but since MachineA cant make up it's mind as to which interface to send out packets to the same subnet, it's likely it will use one port one time, another port another and that will confuse it's recipients12:39
xyz:)12:39
fromvegaun_operateur, for machineB it should act like 2 different machines...12:39
fromvegahum12:39
fromveganow I understand12:39
un_operateurfromvega, right, ok, thats one good way of seeing it12:39
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xyzi cant sort this grub thing out please help12:40
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PriceChildxyz what is wrong?12:40
toulouseso once i nstall all of those packages from the multimedia site on ubuntu.help my video playing should work right?12:40
xyzi installed it in (fd0) instead of /dev/fd012:40
PriceChildtoulouse, should do :)12:40
toulousethanks :))))))12:40
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fromvegaun_operateur, linux kernel must process the ping not the NIC itself (right?), so in fact it problably is receiving the packets from machineB but responds to the wrong NIC.12:41
xyzPriceChild:i still havent loged off12:41
corevettehow do you install grub on windows drive?12:41
xyzusing the live cd12:41
kitchexyz: well to make a grub rescue disk it's a bit different then how you install it to a hard drive12:41
un_operateurfromvega, if you ever work on cisco/juniper/nortel routers -- you'll see they prohibit you from assigning IP address in the same subnet to different interfaces -- simply because it breaks a lot of things (as you see) and it's bad design -- also, the whole point of a router is to connect different networks -- not connect the same network (thats a job of a switch)12:41
Apolloanyone recommend a streaming video capture app especially for youtube.com?12:41
juanchito2006!startup12:41
ubotuTo add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup12:41
xyzkitche:will i have to log off12:41
PriceChildApollo, I don't think you're legally allowed to take video off of the youtube site... just stream it on demand12:42
nnun_operateur: i assign different IPs from the same subnet to several cards in a machine on my terminal server12:42
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kitchexyz: yes but how you installed grub to the floppy isn't really the correct way not sure if it will work12:42
nnun_operateur: but it's a rare case12:42
fromvegaun_operateur: ;) thank you very much!12:42
xyzyeh i have no grub ,that the problem12:42
xyzand now i dont know how linux installed12:43
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_fnordhow do i upgrade from 5.1012:43
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xyzohh man12:43
un_operateurfromvega, the kernel reponds to IP addresses by enclosing frames destined to MAC addresses from those within it's arp cache12:43
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un_operateurnn, are you using a form of load balancing on the server?12:43
_fnord!upgrade12:43
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes12:43
un_operateurnn, IP load balancing i.e.?12:44
nnun_operateur: sorta, i refuse clients12:44
freenetI installed a package that doesn't let me uninstall it because of an error in postrm. How do I clean this up and ignore the postrm error?12:44
Apollopricechild: i have uploaded video to the site and I can't recover the video? It is a storage faculty to myself! Home video?12:44
nnun_operateur: if more than X clients are connected to the IP, i refuse them, and they try the next "server"12:44
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nnun_operateur: kinda like how /etc/resolv.conf works12:44
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un_operateurnn, so it is load balancing basically12:45
orangeyhey all..12:45
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nnun_operateur: in a ghetto sense, yea12:45
PriceChild!hi | orangey12:45
ubotuorangey: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!12:45
orangeywhen running a vncserver, it fails, and tells me I need a fixed font12:45
orangeyhowever, what package does that come from?12:45
un_operateurnn, does the server connect up to a switch/router that does ip load balancing?12:46
orangeyI think I have all the necessary ones - xfree-font, etc.12:46
Hanselx11-fonts prolly12:46
nnun_operateur: no12:46
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xyznow it wont even mount a floppy drive12:46
nnun_operateur: just several ports on a gigabit switch12:46
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un_operateurnn, i'm amazed you havent come across any troubles as of yet ..12:46
nnun_operateur: why?12:46
orangeyHansel: there is no such package I can find.12:47
nnun_operateur: only issue i had was i had to set up dhcpd to only broadcast on one interface,because it was confusing itself12:47
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toulousearrgh ok, so i installed the various media packages, but .... it wont play wmv files because it needs a decoder, any tips?12:48
PriceChild!w32codecs | toulouse12:49
ubotutoulouse: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:49
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un_operateurnn, like i was saying -- when the server replies to clients -- how does it's kernel know which interface to use to send frames out of? if for example clients from 192.168.0.0/255 connect upto it .. and half connect upto one interface and half to another, the server has a 50% chance of choosing either with no definitive path12:49
PriceChildtoulouse, you need "w32codecs"... it is outlined on the wiki how to get it12:49
toulouseo :!12:49
toulousethanks12:49
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jugheadi'm getting w32codecs right now; it's not very difficult12:49
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nnun_operateur: Ohh, i think i misunderstood what you meant previously12:50
fromvegaun_operateur, if the kernel knows from which MAC the packet was received, shoudn't it send the response from the same MAC?12:50
nnarp caching12:50
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TwiztrQuestion;12:51
un_operateurnn, so, not only does that disrupt intermediate routers' and switches' arp tables because they are made up on the fly -- if one time,  one MAC address is used and another another is used, it puts a load on those devices12:51
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nnun_operateur: hm12:51
kitche!ask|Twiztr12:52
ubotuTwiztr: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:52
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xyzwill this fix my grub problems12:52
xyzhttp://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Restore_Grub12:52
fromvegahow do I make changes in the ip_forward file permanent? I do not want to type "sudo sh -c "echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" every reboot.12:52
CantankerousI have seen IP conversations where a client was talking to interface A of the server but the server always replied from interface B (same IP address). This confused the switches because interface A was never a source MAC so every packet to the server was flooded as a multicast.12:53
un_operateurfromvega, yes, thats how its supposed to work  -- but how does the recepient know which MAC address is the right one, if there are many??12:53
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TwiztrI am running MEPIS liveCD and trying to install it. I partitioned HDB [b1 is a Windows drive b2 is the /root b3 is the swap, and b4 is /home] 12:53
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kitcheTwiztr: ask in #mepis12:53
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Twiztrso it installed, and then rebooted  (not from cd) it never asked me for a bootloader setting, so when the box rebooted, it did so into Windows12:54
TwiztrAnd Windows System is in HDA12:54
kitcheTwiztr: might want to ask it in #mepis if it deals with mepis12:54
un_operateurCantankerous, yes, there's a high chance of a broadcast storm happening especially in a cascaded switched network12:54
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DILcan an .exe program be installed on a linux system12:55
toulousedil, use wine12:56
un_operateurDIL, it can be run from under wine12:56
xyzis there a devicew called fd0 in ubuntu12:56
fromvegaun_operateur: I'm still confused about this MAC issue. The machine have 2 MACs, the packet is received from one MAC, the kernel send the response from that MAC. What's the confusing issue?12:56
DILthanks!12:56
Cantankerousfloppy disk 012:56
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xyzthe ehat is /dev/fd012:57
xyzthen what is /dev/fd012:57
un_operateurfromvega, if the sender machine has two MAC addresses and there's a 50% chance that either will be used in communications to one single host -- how does the client know which MAC address to use in reponses back to the sender???12:57
idlemindxyz: fd0 is just that: /dev/fd012:57
kitchexyz: floppy disk 0 is what /dev/fd012:57
xyzthem my grub did work12:58
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xyzthats if fd0 is /dev/fd012:59
Cantankerousun_operator: depends which MAC answered the ARP request12:59
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xyzok im rebooting now12:59
xyzwish me luck12:59
Phat32How can I view the channel history12:59
Phat32I can12:59
Phat32I can't scroll up high enough*12:59
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un_operateurfromvega, it's like this -- you send me letters all the time from your addresses i.e. 10, foobar lane  and 20, bazquux road -- one time you use one address another time another -- which one should i trust is your actual one? ok, i might keep a track and reply to the exact one used in the original letter but why put me through the bother? it's an unnecessary load on my part when ideally you could just use one address al01:00
un_operateurl the time01:00
Hanselpgup?  if it doesn't go high enough you need to set a larger history setting01:00
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willskillsPhat32, what client do you use? Xchat only keeps 300 lines as a default.......01:00
Phat32xchat01:00
willskillsyou can change it in Settings :)01:00
Phat32someone had typed out a command for generating a new xorg.conf file I think01:01
Phat32or maybe it was like dpkg reconfigure ?01:01
Phat32Hello everyone. I am working on a machine which lost it's nvidia graphics card recently due to dust and is now using an ATI graphics card. I was wondering if anyone could explain how to remove the old nvidia driver, install the ati driver, and fix xorg.conf...01:01
Phat32I tried using the xorg.conf from the live cd and it didn't work01:02
un_operateurCantankerous, yes, but if the source MAC address is constantly being changed for a source IP address, it puts an unecessary load on the intermediate switch and recepient host - because they have to keep changing and updating the arp table for every different frame01:02
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leprasmurfhello all01:02
Cantankeroussudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:02
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leprasmurftrying to install the rt2500 drivers for my wireless card.  Got the drivers, but when I try 'make' in the directory, I get the error make[1] : *** No rule to make target `modules'.  Stop.01:02
kitchePhat32: you remove nvidia-glx by sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia-glx I would just use the open source ati driver until you get X working again01:02
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eimajenthatI just installed banshee and banshee-daap, but I get an error that the Music Sharing plugin could not be initialized.  Any suggestions?01:03
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fromvegaun_operateur: but and what about INSIDE the machine that have 2 NICs. If it receives a ping request from one NIC, does it replies using the same NIC? I mean, NIC2 received a ping request, the reponse shouldn't be sent from it? Or things do not work this way?01:04
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CantankerousI don't think there is normally any checking of the source MAC address when receiving an IP packet. ARP refresh is optional IIRC01:04
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un_operateurfromvega, it's not so much a problem if it's just two hosts -- but if there are many hosts -- then it becomes a problem -- the sender with two mac addresses is not guaranteed to recieve all frames via one interface01:05
xyzits worked01:05
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brian|geeknikGood evening.01:05
xyz;)01:05
bruenig!hi | brian|geeknik01:05
ubotubrian|geeknik: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!01:05
Phat32thankyou very much guys01:05
xyzevening01:05
Phat32I am using X again01:05
Phat32I'll take it from here01:06
bruenig!thanks | Phat3201:06
ubotuPhat32: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)01:06
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un_operateurCantankerous, ohh, the MAC addresses are always checked -- because thats how switches know the topology of a network, the states of links and build Spanning Trees with01:06
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brian|geeknikI just downloaded the Ubuntu 6.10 ISO for AMD64 systems. It's been years, and I mean YEARs since I ran linux( think slackware with kernel 1.2.13). ;) Anyways, it gave me some error about my AGP Aperture and then some weird authentication error and then told me to remove the CD from my drive and hit enter after closing the tray, and then I had to push the reset button.01:07
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Hanselbrian - try the alternate cd that has a textmode installer...01:08
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Cantankerousun_operator - yes, but that has no effect on ARP. Switches just learn where each MAC is. If a server has multiple MACS with the same IP, you could in theory send to any one although in practice you would only send to the MAC in teh current ARP table. IP responses could come from any interface and therefore have any of tose MAC addresses. This does not affect the packet meanings at IP level01:09
brian|geeknikHansel: I just wanted to try out the OS w/o installing actually. =)01:09
Hanseloh.. :(01:09
TrynemjoelIs there a graphic WLAN-connection program for GNOME desktop? haven't managed to find one01:09
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brian|geeknikI'm not 100% ready to make the switch until I get a secondary computer(I stream audio to a server via Helix Producer Plus(from RealMedia)) and I don't think there is an alternative for Linux. ;)01:10
bruenig!network-manager-gnome01:10
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ubotunetwork-manager-gnome: network management framework (GNOME frontend). In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.3-2ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 245 kB, installed size 1608 kB01:10
digin4why isn't there xchat for ubuntu? i can only find xchat-gnome, which i don't like at all :(01:10
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bruenig!info xchat01:10
ubotuxchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.6-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 275 kB, installed size 760 kB01:10
xyzdo you install beryl first or the drivers ?01:10
bruenigdigin4, there is, you need to enable universe to install it01:10
frogger0!sources01:10
xyzand dose it make a diffrence01:10
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource01:10
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digin4bruenig: how do i enable that in edgy?01:11
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bruenigdigin4, have you ever messed with your /etc/apt/sources.list01:11
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digin4bruenig: no sir!01:11
bingnet922new question: I compiled and installed ffmpeg from svn because I couldn't get the repo version to encode mp3 when transcoding video. It still doesn't work though I've enabled mp3/lame. What am I missing?01:11
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bingnet922I'm using 6.1001:12
bruenigdigin4, ok, then run, the following, it will enable all the extra repositories, update, then install xchat, sudo sed -e 's/# deb/deb/g' -e 's/edgy universe/edgy universe multiverse/g' -e 's/edgy-security universe/edgy-security universe multiverse/g' -i.backup /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xchat01:12
rysiek|planybody here uses/knows unionfs?01:12
kitchebingnet922: did you install lame?01:12
fromvegaun_operateur: but in my case, the linux machine have 2 NICs but only one is connected, and I can't ping it. If the kernel can send the reponse from either NICs I understand the problem, but if kernel sends the response from the same NIC that have received it I do not understand why it's not pingable:\01:12
rysiek|plif I use unionfs, do I need to have the branched dirs mounted somewhere already?01:12
bruenigdigin4, copy everything after the comma, all on one line01:12
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digin4bruenig: i thank thee sire!01:12
bruenigdigin4, if you want to tray icon, do sudo apt-get install xchat-systray after all of that runs through01:12
bruenigs/to/the*01:12
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digin4ok thanks :):)01:13
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Cantankerousfromvega: The un-connected NIC should detect lack of cable and go inactive, even if it _does_ have the same IP address.01:13
cyphasehmm, Gajim 0.11 looks pretty good01:14
cyphasenice interface01:14
TrynemjoelWhere do i find the window for network-manager-gnome ? The network status window in my systray wont see my eth1 but its visible in "iwconfig" in the terminal01:14
un_operateurfromvega, just dont assign IP addresses in the same IP subnet to multiple interfaces on the same machine -- keep it simple01:14
frogger0how can i solve this problem -->  gpgv: keyblock resource `/home/kneipe/.gnupg/trustedkeys.gpg': general error01:14
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toulousehey guys, i use beep media player for my internet radio and streamtuner to find my stations, but sometime the beepmediaplayer hiccups and quits playing, any suggestions?01:14
Stormx2Trynemjoel: Tried "killall gnome-panel" ?01:14
Cantankerousfromvga: ifconfig should tell you what IP addresses you have, and ective interfaces should include the word RUNNING01:14
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fromvegaCantankerous: the NICs do not have the same IP dude01:15
fromvegaun_operateur: ok... just want to understand hehehe01:15
toulouseand it doesnt support all the streams streamtuner  has to offer01:15
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Stormx2toulouse: BMP is old. It's been forked twice. If you like killing kittens, I suggest you get BMPx. If you are not evil, go with Audacious01:15
un_operateurfromvega, I could explain better if i had a whiteboard -- its hard using words :)01:15
bingnet922kitche: Hi, I did install lame. I checked this with $apt-get install lame which responded "0 newly installed"01:15
Stormx2toulouse: audacious-media-player.org01:15
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toulouseaudacious, ok ima look for it, does it need any seperate packages?01:15
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Stormx2toulouse: Don't think so...01:16
toulousethanks man01:16
frogger0how can i solve this problem -->  gpgv: keyblock resource `/home/kneipe/.gnupg/trustedkeys.gpg': general error01:16
Stormx2toulouse: if it does you can get em from the repos ;)01:16
bruenigfrogger0, general error, hmm that is pretty specific01:16
bruenig!repeat | frogger001:16
ubotufrogger0: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience01:16
fromvegaCantankerous: both NICs are RUNNING and have different IPs...01:16
Stormx2toulouse: There is an ubuntu maintainer for it I think...01:16
TrynemjoelThat just killed all my systray icons Stormx2, no status/management window for my WLAN01:16
frogger0thx01:16
toulouseok01:16
Stormx2Trynemjoel: Eek, sorry.01:16
toulousethanks dude01:17
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xyzhow do i install opera in the terminal01:17
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Trynemjoelwell, can i config my Wifi-card from the terminal as a temp solution?01:18
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bruenigxyz, you have to add repos, or I can find the deb and give you a wget + dpkg command that will do it if you wish01:18
un_operateurxyz, you need to have the canonical commercial or opera repositories added to your sources.list01:18
bruenigxyz, what version of ubuntu are you using01:18
xyz6.1001:19
xyzedgy eft01:19
xyzE: Couldn't find package opera01:19
xyz:-/01:19
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Naaboheya all..anyone can tell me how to setup ftp so i can delete all in www root by ftp?01:19
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xyz bruenig:please do01:19
HanselNaabo - which ftpd are you using?01:20
Naaboproftpd01:20
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Hansellookup the defaultroot  option01:20
Cantankerousfromvga: maybe I shouldn't have jumped in the middle of a conversation. Anyway, to make IP forwarding permanent, there's an entry in /etc/network/options - add a line "#ip_forward=yes01:20
Hanselset it for one of your users that you want to be able to edit www pages.01:20
Cantankerousfromvga: dammit - don't put the hash in front01:20
fromvegaun_operateur: ok, no problem. thank you very much! Merry Xmas! Bye!01:21
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fromvegaCantankerous: tks dude! Merry Xmas bye!01:21
fromvegabye!01:21
xyz bruenig:im waiting in vain01:21
xyzfor your repos01:22
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bruenigxyz, wget  ftp://get.opera.com/pub/opera/linux/910/final/en/i386/shared/opera_9.10-20061214.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i opera_9.10-20061214.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb01:22
Naabowell i can see owner..but as i ry to delite some dir's in there it says permission denied..01:22
bruenigxyz, they had it setup with mirrors, so I had to navigate the ftp index until I could find an exact link01:22
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HanselNaabo - you also need to chmod the directory so the user can actually make changes let alone get chrooted to it01:22
SmashCatHello, anyone know of a site where I can find a list of available apt packages?01:23
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Naabochmod the dir 777?01:23
kitcheSmashCat: packages.ubuntu.com01:23
variantNaabo: no, 775 at most01:23
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derek_Hi01:24
trev_ok, i was just trying to share a folder using the nautilus GUI and samba, how do i acess the folder that is on ubuntu with windows XP01:24
Cantankerousfromvga: bye - Merry Christmas01:24
SmashCatkitche: Thanks! I wonder if apt will have a search option one day (like yum)!01:24
derek_Where can I tell my views if I like some feature in Ubuntu?01:24
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kitcheSmashCat: umm apt-cache01:24
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kitcheSmashCat: it had it for a while01:24
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TrynemjoelIs there a command to list LAN-connections? trying to find the IP to my Access point :)01:25
Hanselderek_ - you can setup a video camera and post it on youtube  hehe.01:25
derek_:)01:26
SmashCatkitche: So apt-cache is a search tool? Weird name! ;-)01:26
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derek_SmashCat, apt-cache is a cache of the list of programs available01:26
derek_SmashCat, you search like this: apt-cache search xchat01:27
Naabohmmm now i chmod the www dir 755--ftp and see owner same as ftp acc...still can't add dirs/delete files..01:27
TrynemjoelIs there a command to list LAN-connections? trying to find the IP to my Access point :)01:27
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xyzdidnt work01:28
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kitchexyz: ok now here is the fun part01:28
_fnordim trying to get the sound to work on my laptop01:28
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neuro_scuze me a sec01:29
neuro_!language neuro_01:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about language neuro_ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:29
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neuro_!language01:29
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.01:29
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SmashCatderek_: Thanks, I usually only use Fedora/RH and Gentoo, so I'm not familiar with apt. I'm just setting up a desktop for someone and they wanted Ubuntu. The installer didn't allow RAID setup and hasn't picked up the hardware properly (only allowing 1024x768 on a 1920x1200 display ;-) I don't mind editing xorg.conf, but it's not very user friendly for a newbie!01:30
xyzhot do i reboot in the terminal01:30
toulousehey guys, is xmms useful? im looking for a pain-free internet radio player01:30
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Hanseltoulouse - yes.  It's "useful"01:31
needhelpI try to run a Windows-game through wine. But an Windows-error pops up saying "Allication Error: An integer divide by zero was encountered at address ...... Click on OK to terminate the application"01:31
hansakianyone know what runs on TCP port DPT=64789 /01:31
needhelpHow can I fix that error?01:31
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Hanselhansaki - probably a backdoor01:31
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hansakianyone know what runs on TCP port DPT=64789  ? and anything about secuirity / hacking on this port?  i am getting lost of hits01:31
kitchexyz: http://pastebin.ca/291311 is how to install grub to a floppy01:31
Hanselneedhelp - which application?  Have you read the winehq webpage for info on that app and particular error?01:31
toulousewell, do you think it's going to be stable on internet radio? b/c i tried beep media player and it works--some of the time01:31
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toulousei dont know why though01:32
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hansakiHansel: why do you say that01:32
xyzkitche:i dont it ,thani you01:32
Hanselhansaki - that is a very high port number01:32
Hanselhansaki - most legitimate services run under 1000  :)01:33
xyzany one have a clue how to reboot in the terminal01:33
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kitchexyz: rescue mode01:33
ubuntu_Hi01:33
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DILhey all!  am trying to have system see my HP 5590 Scanner-any assist will be graet am A NEWB to Linux01:33
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idleminddil: have you searched google to make sure that it's compatible w/linux?01:33
HanselDIL have you googled for HP 5590 Scanner driver insmod01:33
SmashCatxyz: tried typing "reboot"?01:34
hansakithanks01:34
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DILno will now do01:34
ubuntu_how show DVD with ubuntu ??? help me please01:34
_fnordxyz: halt?01:34
insomninjaDIL, what happens if you start the scanning program (sane)?01:34
_fnord!dvd |ubuntu01:34
ubotuubuntu: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages01:34
SmashCatxyz: or "init 0" (works with RH)01:34
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ubuntu_thanks01:34
_fnordubuntu_: are you useing a livecd?01:35
xyz"reboot" works but i have to be root ,im ok with that01:35
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NaaboHansel--got any more sugesions for me??ftp with the same suer as the ower in www root..still getting permission denied:-/01:35
SmashCatRight time to hack xorg.conf ;-) It's the 21st century, there should really be a gui tool for this!01:36
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_fnordhow do i get the sound to work on a laptop?01:36
ubuntu_i wish you a mary christmas !01:36
ubuntu_goddnight01:36
bruenigSmashCat, write one01:36
derek_Can I find out the version of a program available in the repository before apt-get'ing it?01:36
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leprasmurfmake[1] : *** No rule to make target `modules'.  Stop.01:36
HanselSmashCat - why?  If it ain't broke don't fix it.  There are many people that live in CLI's and don't ever even load up a GUI...01:36
kitcheSmashCat: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is the only good tool or sudo xorgconfig or X -configure01:36
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HanselNaabo - you can see the files but not write/remove, correct?01:36
derek__fnord, how old is your laptop, if I may ask?01:36
_fnordSmashCat: there is one i think01:37
SmashCatbruenig: This is probably the onyl time I'll use Ubuntu, so I don't think I'll be writing a tool for it for one installation ;-)01:37
Naaboyes01:37
leprasmurfAny help?  I'm compiling the rt2500 driver and getting: make[1] : *** No rule to make target `modules'.  Stop.01:37
_fnordboute a year or so01:37
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_fnordintell celeronM 1.5 ghz 250 ram01:37
bruenigSmashCat, but think of the good you will do writing such an invaluable piece of software for the community01:37
PixyAnyone know how to get an Ubuntu verion of xchat that's not the gnome version?01:37
HanselNaabo - have you looked at the sample configs on proftpd.org? http://www.proftpd.org/docs/configs/virtual.conf01:37
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_fnordit was bottom of the line when i got it01:37
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root_how do find out a password on a .rar file01:37
bingnet922kitche: Hi, I did install lame. I checked this with $apt-get install lame which responded "0 newly installed"01:37
SmashCatbruenig: There's one in Fedora that works well, maybe that could be repackaged?01:38
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kitchebingnet922: ok then it should be working correctly01:38
LameBMXroot_,  you dont dl warez01:38
kitchebingnet922: it might be due to how you are trying to encode it and such01:38
root_lameBMX its not a warez01:38
LameBMXthen why dont you have the pass?01:39
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Hanselroot_ password protection is put in place for a reason.  If you set the pass but forgot it then you can google for the answer.  Sounds a bit sketchy though and we dont help with piracy...01:39
NaaboHansel--i'm chking now..thx..getting back as soon as any progress beeing made01:39
baastrupis there a easy way to install the 2.6.18 kernel01:39
Hanselbaastrup - apt-get if you dont have any customizations01:40
cafuego_baastrup: why do you want to install an old kernel?01:40
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Hanselif you want to compile your own the process is fairly painless but there are some key steps you must follow...01:40
BiNzMerry Christmas all!01:40
root_lameBMX as i am a techie for a college and a student it crackin are system and there is a rar file which is passworded which is titled Crackin01:40
PixyI'm having a problem with GCC.01:40
PixyDon't know if this is common.01:40
derek_Can I find out the version of a program available in the repository before apt-get'ing it?01:41
PixyBut hanyways:01:41
Hanselderek_ apt-cache lets you search01:41
neuro_Hansel: ping01:41
PixyI get this when doing ./configure01:41
Pixychecking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables01:41
cafuego_derek_: apt-cache show <package> and/or apt-cache policy <package>01:41
Hanselneuro_: pong01:41
baastrupcafuego_: this is the version  2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP01:41
kitchePixy: sudo apt-get install build-essential01:41
PixyKay.01:41
cafuego_Pixy: you don't have a proper install, get 'build-essential'01:41
neuro_Hansel: been pm'ing you, no response?01:41
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HanselI am ignoring all pms.01:41
Hanseljust ask in the channel01:41
neuro_nice01:41
LameBMXso ur responsible for the system then ... and its a university01:41
cafuego_baastrup: Yes, prebuilt with backported fixes. 2.6.18 is not maintained by Ubuntu.01:42
Rav|stranglerwhat does ./ do again?01:42
LameBMXjust remote admin the box and record01:42
Hansel./ runs a binary file...01:42
neuro_Hansel: just wanted to ask a question about whatever it was you said to gordonjcp01:42
Rav|stranglerand how can I execute a file with out doing it.01:42
Hanselsomething outside of /bin /usr/bin etc01:42
PixyAlso, how would you make the keyboard controls more Mac like?01:42
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root_lameBMX: no just a little school network01:42
kitcheRav|strangler: use sh instead of ./01:42
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PixyAs in Apple key == Ctrl01:42
Hanselneuro_ - I didn't say anything to him but if you want to ask me about something I typed feel free...01:42
Hansel:)01:42
LameBMXsame concept01:42
neuro_Hansel: you didn't pm him?01:42
LameBMXsize dont really matter01:42
baastrupcafuego_: hmm oki, I need to try a newer kernel,  because im testing some problems with the nvidia kernel on my laptop01:42
Rav|stranglerkitche, can I do it without doing sh bsflite?01:42
root_true01:43
bingnet922kitche: Here's my session showing the command and output. Notice the 'configure:' is empty instead of --enable-lame, but when I run .configure it shows lame enabled. I am sure I'm using the same executable because I removed the ffmpeg package, the only resident copy is from svn.01:43
Hanselhe pm'd me telling me about his life and work...01:43
HanselI ignored him  :)01:43
derek_Thanks01:43
bingnet922kitche: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38723/01:43
Rav|stranglerkitche,  like chmod something01:43
neuro_Hansel: :)01:43
cafuego_baastrup: Wouldn't it be better to try the newer driver on a working kernel?01:43
neuro_Hansel: thanks dude, that was all i was after01:43
LameBMXand if someone is "crackin" out of a rar ... and you have done ur job right .. u should just be sitting back lolz'n01:43
SmashCatHmm that's wierd, installing the Nvidia drivers installs a new Linux kernel ;-)01:43
kitcheRav|strangler: chmod +x but you still need to do either ./ or sh to make it run01:43
Rav|stranglerkitche, could I just double click the shortcut after I make it executable01:44
cafuego_baastrup: incidentally, the latest stable is 2.6.19.101:44
kitchebingnet922: you might be doing it right but when you use the program that uses ffmpeg you might be using wrong syntax01:44
Olathe_How do I mount a samba share so that the owner of the files on it appears to be something other than root ?01:44
LameBMXno sweat either way ... if he succeeds talk n find out what he did .. if he dont well .. your system just got proven01:44
kitcheRav|strangler: yes01:44
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baastrupcafuego_: hmm yeah, but its the last thing i need to try, I got the hardware changed, tryed the newest nvidia driver01:44
cafuego_Olathe_: the uid and gid options as per man page.01:44
PixyBest key remapping program?01:44
bingnet922kitche: good point, but in this case I'm using ffmpeg directly to eliminate that possibility01:44
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root_lameBMX: i just want to see what he is up to, theres been no problems yet. but as are network user aggrement states "no hacking or cracking" stupid i know01:44
trev_when i first used the shared folders GUI i only added samba as a service, is there a way to automatically add nfs as well?01:44
bingnet922kitche: you can see the command and output here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38723/01:45
baastrupcafuego_: nv drivers works find though, so its only the nvidia official drivers01:45
Olathe_cafuego_: Thanks :)01:45
leprasmurfok, I'm trying to remove gaim from an edubuntu install, and it's claiming that it's going to uninstall the desktop...anyone know why?01:45
SmashCatDammit! Just changed my clock and now I can't use SUDO anymore as the "timestamp's too far in the future"... great...01:45
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cafuego_Olathe_: you may also wan to use fmask and dmask01:45
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Hansellol SmashCat.  :(01:45
omgloli need help setting up my linux pc as a wireless router. when i try to use firestarter it says device wlan0 is not ready. but network settings shows wlan0 is active. how can i fix that?01:45
kitchebingnet922: you encoding a video?01:45
_fnordso now help with the laptop/sound?01:45
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LameBMXyea and all im saying is you will learn my by watching01:45
surfbuddycan anyone have a look at my problem please ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32490201:46
_fnordso no*01:46
bingnet922kitche: right, mpeg to flv01:46
Pixykitche: After install build-essential, I get this error configure: error: "Cannot find glib"01:46
PixyAnd I know it's installed.01:46
bingnet922kitche: audio is def present in orig, but no audio stream to flv01:46
SmashCatLooks like I'll have to reboot and login as root - man I love the Linux desktop :-))01:46
kitchePixy: you have to install glib you might have glib2 installed which is different01:46
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root_lameBMX: arh true, well its the hoildays so i should be relaxing anyways01:46
LameBMXi remember my university days ..01:46
SmashCatThanks for the help people...01:46
LameBMXexactly01:46
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omgloli need help setting up my linux pc as a wireless router. when i try to use firestarter it says device wlan0 is not ready. but network settings shows wlan0 is active. how can i fix that?01:46
surfbuddyits about ext3 file system failing ...01:47
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kitchebingnet922: hmm yeah I m just thinking if you  have to use a tool not sure how to encode audio in lame when it's part of a video01:47
LameBMXwith windows i dont run a firewall or AV ... AV is pointless ..01:47
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Hanselis a firewall pointless as well?  heh.01:47
LameBMXand it only does a half a**'d job of removing them anyways01:47
root_cheers all01:47
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TrynemjoelIs there a command to list LAN-connections? trying to find the IP to my Access point :)01:47
LameBMXifconfig01:48
vlcTrynemjoel, install iptraf01:48
HanselTrynemjoel - ifconfig and look for the IP ending in .1 usually  :)01:48
LameBMXif you are connected01:48
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vlcah01:48
Pixyifconfig eth0 usually.01:48
bingnet922kitche: I was originally trying to use KINO to produce FLV, and was getting no audio in final, so this appears to be the reason: FFMPEG is not lame enabled.01:48
LameBMX192.168.0.1 .1.1  15.1 are common ones01:48
TrynemjoelThe accesspoint is not the router01:49
bingnet922kitche: when I encode final using utilities and libs other than ffmpeg the final has audio, only ffmpeg produces video only01:49
Hanselaccess point is likely .1.1 and router .0.101:49
Rav|stranglerkitche, thank you :-D01:49
omgloli have problem setting up my ubuntu as a wireless router! firestarter says wlan0 is not active!01:49
Rav|stranglerHansel, and you too buddy thanks01:49
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Pixyiwconfig ?01:50
needhelpwhats the configfile for wine ?01:50
kitcheTrynemjoel: you can do iwlist scan and see what pops up01:50
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willskillsAnyone here an expert with ALSA and different soundcards? I am having problems with my capture on an NVidia CK804 - please PM me if you can assist!01:50
bingnet922omglol: you're doing better than I, I couldn't get ubuntu to recognize my wlan.01:50
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omglollol01:50
_fnord!anyone01:50
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?01:50
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LameBMXlmao01:50
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omgloli need help setting up my linux pc as a wireless router. when i try to use firestarter it says device wlan0 is not ready. but network settings shows wlan0 is active. how can i fix that?01:50
kitchebingnet922: to me it would just be easier to rip the sound and video part and encode them seperately then fuse them together again01:51
cyphaseis CUPS ever going to announce itself via Zeroconf?01:51
bingnet922omglol: I know the first step is to determine the chipset of your wlan hardware, then determine the appropriate driver/ndiswrapper01:51
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bingnet922kitche: ffmpeg?01:51
BeforewisdomHi.  I have been trying to unrar a *.rar file.  It asks me for a password.  My system password does not work so I am guessing I need to get one from somewhere else.  Is there anyway around that?01:51
Trynemjoelall i get from iwlist scan is a macadress and other info01:51
Trynemjoelno IP :I)01:51
jair_@find SDK01:51
_fnordhow do i uninstall cups copletly?01:51
cafuego_Beforewisdom: get the password from whoever sent you the rar.01:51
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Trynemjoelit has a default ip form the routers DHCP-server01:51
cafuego_Beforewisdom: if they didn't give you one, you're probably not supposed to unpack it.01:51
bingnet922omglol: if you can log onto a wlan with your hardware then firestarter should work too01:51
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omglolbingnet992: network settings can detect wlan0 and says its active.. is it working?01:52
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omglolbingnet992: i cant logon to any wlan cuz my wireless router is down and all my neighbours are encrypted01:52
BeforewisdomI got a password.html file that says it has the password, but it isn't on there, when I click on the link it tells me to go it is a german site for a bit torrent client with a nasty note not to ask about the password01:52
Hanselhah.01:53
LameBMXyea cuz its malware01:53
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cafuego_Beforewisdom: well, tough luck then01:53
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bingnet922omglol: you will need a wlan for testing your hardware, I don't know if "detection as active" is sufficient proof that it is working. That's as far as I 've gone, good luck.01:53
LameBMXjeez01:53
omglolk01:53
Beforewisdomcafuego, Thanks anyway, I was hoping there would be some way around it01:53
cafuego_german defacation porn isn't good for you anyway01:53
LameBMXlol01:54
BeforewisdomNeither is sarcasm01:54
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Beforewisdomaint porn01:54
_fnordomglol: if you have your nieh bors permission you could use aircrack to find there password,its in hte repos01:54
BeforewisdomHave a nice night boys01:54
LameBMXsarcasm is bad for you?01:54
cafuego_LameBMX: depends on the frame of mind of the "victim"01:54
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cafuego_LameBMX: if they stab you, it's not that great01:54
omglol_fnord: lol01:54
LameBMXah01:54
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LameBMXbut whatever does kill us only makes us stronger01:55
_fnordbut if you dont have permission its a crime01:55
LameBMXso the sarcasm is either good or deadly01:55
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bingnet922kitche: get this, ffmpeg output quickly and cleanly an mp3 of the orig. But will not transcode to flv with mp3 audio?01:55
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surfbuddycan anyone have a look at my problem please ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=324902 .. about failing ext3 ..please01:56
kitchebingnet922: it probabably doesn't understand .flv format01:56
_fnordhow can i get a animated start up screen?01:56
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kitchebingnet922: I m not great with ffmpeg sicne I tend to encode video and audio seperately then fuse them back together01:56
bingnet922kitche: it successfully encodes flv video and ffmpeg is the industry standard for encoding this format01:57
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bingnet922kitche: right?01:57
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omglolhow do i scan for wireless networks and join then?01:58
cafuego_kitche: my ffmpeg outputs to flv just fine01:58
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LameBMXanyone here deal with a wg111u by netgear .. usb .. atheros chipset ... ive followed a few howto's01:58
LameBMXnone worked01:58
jugheadomglol: install something like wifi-radar01:58
omglolk01:58
cyphaseah, it'll be in CUPS 1.401:58
LameBMXand i dont wanna do too many more installs01:58
_fnordhow do i uninstall CUPS?01:59
LameBMXwell os reloads01:59
cyphaseJune of next year01:59
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kitchecafuego_: with mp3 audio?01:59
cafuego_kitche: the one I did had no audio in it, dunno.01:59
toulousegood Question, i have a wifi card in my comp. it finds our wireless router, but will not connect to it if it has a password -any suggestions?01:59
vlcsurfbuddy, i installed ubuntu on a usb drive this week, and i got the problem that the disk got automounted during the partitioning...01:59
cafuego_kitche: Mind you, I had to go from ogg to yuv first; then to flv01:59
cyphasemaybe they can squeeze it into feisty01:59
vlcsurfbuddy, i got the same error02:00
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jugheadtoulouse: what kind of encryption is it?02:00
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toulouseehhh, lemme look02:00
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Lunar_Lamp<toulouse> good Question, i have a wifi card in my comp. it finds our wireless router, but will not connect to it if it has a password -any suggestions? <== Slightly flippant answer, remove the password ;-)02:00
Pie-rateis there any way to get something to run at a really high priority without root privileges? (i get a "nice: cannot set niceness: Permission denied" message) I can get root privileges but i dont want the program i'm running to have them02:00
noelferreirahi people any software to make free phone calls ?02:00
japhyall right i feel really dumb for asking this, but for some reason i cann't burn a good copy of ubuntu, what the heck is going on? i searched the forums and have followed "ISO burning tutorials" but they always come out messed up, either i get a "buffer I/O error on hdc" or when installing the alternate CD i get " *some file* is corrupt", does anyone have any suggestions?02:01
toulousenvm guys my mom is on the other computer, and i dont want to disturb her with router business02:01
nnjaphy: my idea is that maybe you could do a net install?02:01
Lunar_LampHmm, interesting question Pie-rate - definitely only root can increase a processes priority.  Perhaps you could make nice usable to non-root users?02:01
jugheadthat's cool toulouse let us know if you get a chance to find out02:02
toulousei dont have the info in front of me for yall02:02
toulousethanks for offereing to help tho02:02
_fnord!aircrack | toulouse:02:02
japhynn: should i just search the forums to see how to do that?02:02
ubotuaircrack: wireless WEP/WPA cracker. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.3-3 (edgy), package size 136 kB, installed size 372 kB02:02
bushel2test02:02
jugheadwhat are you using to connect to the wireless network?02:02
_fnordtoulouse: | !aircrack02:02
bushel2hi @ all02:02
toulouseooo aircrack, interesting02:02
Lunar_LampPie-rate, idea!  Use "renice" to alter the processes priotiry once it's running!02:02
toulousea d-link wifi pci card02:02
toulousewireless -b02:03
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toulousei know the router has two options on encryption, beyond that i dont know02:03
toulousei gtg02:03
_fnordcan i use a router to conect to other routers?02:03
bingnet922noelferreira: for free calling check out http://www.../click-2021613-1042263902:03
toulousetthanks, we'll work on this later :)02:03
bushel2i try to install beryl and need to put the gpg key in without conecting to the internet , just from the file , any ideas?02:03
jugheadtoulouse: what program are you using?  is it the one that comes with ubuntu or didi you install something like wifi-radar?02:03
zOapanyone know of a good freeram app for ubuntu?02:03
toulouseone with ubuntu02:03
toulousesoz, i  gtg02:04
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toulouse*walking dogs*02:04
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Lunar_LampPie-rate, I'm not certain of the exact syntax but: "COMMAND && sudo renice -19 COMMAND/PROCESS"02:04
bingnet922noelferreira: I mean http://www.skype.com02:05
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Lunar_LampPie-rate, that way the program won't be executed with root privilages.  If you're uncertain about it you can test it to make sure first.02:05
kitchenoelferreira: skype is not free for making calls well it's free at the moment but once jan. 1st coems it won't be free02:05
noelferreirabingnet922: i mean free calls to other system the pc. i think skype charges that ones02:05
noelferreiraya kitche that's it02:06
_fnordis there a free VoIp service?02:07
kitchenoelferreira: look up free world dialup it's good, the other person also needs free world dialup also02:07
Pie-rateLunar_Lamp: I think it needs the pid02:07
Lunar_Lamp<kitche> noelferreira: skype is not free for making calls well it's free at the moment but once jan. 1st coems it won't be free <== Skype to Skype calls are free still.02:07
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DILfirefly from australia is free to0 other firefly numbers02:08
_fnordwhat aboute asterix?whats that all aboute?02:08
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_fnord!asterix02:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about asterix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:08
Lunar_LampPie-rate, can't you just use "ps -ef | grep SOMETHING-ABOUT-YOUR-PROCESS" to find the pid?02:08
Pie-rate!asterisk02:08
ubotuasterisk: Open Source Private Branch Exchange (PBX). In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.2.12.1.dfsg-1ubuntu1.1 (edgy), package size 137 kB, installed size 400 kB02:08
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kitche_fnord: ever call aumber and it was computerized that is what asterisk is02:08
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xyzhi how can i find out more about the ati drivers im using ,they work great02:09
kitche_fnord: makes it so you can have extensions for one number and such it's pretty good if you know how to work with it02:09
kitchexyz: glxinfo02:09
_fnordi was told you can use it to set up a voip server and then give out free phone calls?02:09
kitche_fnord: only if you have a voip account also and they get abused a lot02:09
VerdRouseaucan anyone help me connect to my HP printer connected to the router02:10
leprasmurfI've dl'd the rt2x00 drivers for a wireless adapter, but when I go into the module directory and type 'make' I get "make[1] : *** No rule to make target `modules'.  Stop."02:10
leprasmurfany ideas?02:10
noelferreirathanks people02:10
_fnordand theres no suck thing as a free voip acount?02:10
Pie-rateLunar_Lamp, yes, but I want to do this in a script02:10
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Lunar_Lampleprasmurf, I did this install the other day!02:10
noelferreiraanyone used voipbuster in ubuntu02:10
noelferreirathis one is totaly free02:10
Lunar_Lampleprasmurf, pm and I'll help you out.02:10
Mx-Happy holidays02:10
_fnord!voipbuster02:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about voipbuster - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:10
Lunar_LampPie-rate, well you would be being difficult eh? ;-)02:11
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un_operateurleprasmurf, you might need to have a read at README or INSTALL within those directories02:11
Mx-can someone tell me how ubuntu being a newer linux distro has blown up to the point it has in popularity?02:11
kitche_fnord: free world dialup it's computer to computer but there is ways to use outside calls02:11
Pie-rateLunar_Lamp: I'm thinking sudo nice -n -19  sudo -u jschall command-name02:11
_fnordMx-: because its sexy02:11
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Lunar_LampPie-rate, ok, you can make the script create a "pid" file whereby it outputs the pid of the processes initiated.  Then you can use that simply can you not?02:11
Mx-:D02:12
Pie-rateLunar_Lamp: how do i do that?02:12
superkirbyartistSomething weird's going on!  When I load my computer, the splash is Kubuntu.  When I turn it off, the splash is Xubuntu.  I use Xubuntu; how do I set the system startup splash to Xubuntu?02:12
un_operateurMx-, it's cool, easy to use, appeals to windows users looking to change, detects most hardware, is based on debian's stability, easy to maintain, quite robust, etc02:12
Lunar_LampPie-rate, I'm not quite sure - I know that things like apache produce pid files when run though.02:12
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_fnordsuperkirbyartist: have you installed more then one desktop?02:13
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un_operateursuperkirbyartist, check out !usplash02:13
_fnordlike kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop02:13
superkirbyartist_fnord: Previously I have tried KDE on Snow White iMac G3; too slow, so got rid of it.02:13
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superkirbyartistun_operateur: Those instructions are complicated!02:13
_fnord!usplash02:13
ubotuusplash is the start-up splash (before the login screen appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto02:13
kitcheun_operateur: that howto is more about making a usplash from what I have read and what LjL said02:14
Pie-rateWhy do you need root to increase a processes priority anyway?02:14
needhelpI try to run a Windows-game through wine. Installing from CD1 works fine, but then it asks for CD2. the installer seems not to detect that I switched to CD2 and its keeps begging for the next disc. How to install that game?02:14
`richOkay, trying to share a folder on my ubuntu box (via SMB) and browse it from a windows box - I get asked for a login/pass but it doesn't accept my ubuntu login details. Am I missing something?02:14
biotro1Merry Christmas to all :)02:14
needhelpWithout switching to Windows02:14
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xyzkitche:thx02:15
un_operateursuperkirbyartist, you could probably get away with  -- sudo sh -c "aptitude purge usplash; aptitude install usplash"02:15
Pie-rateneedhelp: #winehq and www.appdb.winehq.org02:15
biotro1Merry Christmas to you all02:15
kitcheneedhelp: there is a switch to tell wine to look for cdeject requests not sure the exact syntax of it though man wine should tell you the correct syntax02:15
_fnordneedhelp: did you give your cd rom drive a min to make sure it had time to load the game?02:15
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DILxmas02:15
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superkirbyartistun_operator; typed it right now.02:15
Lunar_Lamp<Pie-rate> Why do you need root to increase a processes priority anyway? <== Otherwise a non-trusted user could use all the systems processing power.02:15
Mx-so many people in here02:16
Mx-wow02:16
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superkirbyartistScore is -301; what does that mean?02:16
factboy818181does anyone use Starcraft in Ubuntu with wine?  if so, have you had any troubles with starcraft not taking up full screen?02:16
needhelp_fnord: yes, many minutes02:16
superkirbyartistIt asks me to accept or not?02:16
DILMX it is the ubuntu concept :-)02:16
_fnordi dont know then might just not be compatible02:16
needhelpkitche: thanks, ill look into it02:16
Mx-the african thing?02:17
un_operateursuperkirbyartist, _read_ the preceeding few lines, they ask you if you would like to uninstall a few packages02:17
DILriiiiiiiiiiight02:17
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_fnordhow do i get a anmated splash screen?like the fingerprint/dna/hand one in kubuntu?02:18
superkirbyartistHow do I edit applications menu in Xubuntu?02:18
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_fnordalso still need to figure out whats wrong with my sound on a laptop02:18
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_fnordnevermind i got the sound but i still need help with teh splash screen02:20
anandanbuHi02:21
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omglolfor my atherous wireless card, shd i use ndiswrapper with winxp drivers or madwifi02:21
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lupine_85omglol: madwifi every time02:22
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omglolk :)02:22
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superkirbyartistI installed Mac-On-Linux: how do I run it?02:22
omglolif i've installed ndiswrapper with winxp drivers shd i remove ndiswrapper?02:22
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_fnordwhat program do i use to network a mac to my computer so the mac can use my wifi?02:23
anandanbucan i change the grub so that the default booting OS is windows if so how can i do it02:23
un_operateuromglol, if ndiswrapper is currently set to use your network card -- you should remove it or disengage it02:23
eriksayssuperkirbyartist: are you experiencing problems running?02:23
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vox754omglol: no, it does nothing leaving it installed02:23
omglolhmm02:23
superkirbyartisteriksays: There is no Xfce menu link.02:24
un_operateuranandanbu, you edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file and set the default choice there02:24
Lunar_Lampanandanbu, you need to edit /boot/grub/menu.list - there is an option to select which number entry in your list it selects by default.  I think it starts counting from "0" as a warning (i.e. the first entry is called "0" the second "1" the third  "2")02:24
vox754edit it with gedit, or nano02:24
omglolu can try grubed02:24
anandanbuwhere is the file location02:24
un_operateuranandanbu, are you drunk? :)02:25
Lunar_Lampanandanbu, /boot/grub/menu.lst is the file location :-)02:25
anandanbuwhat02:25
anandanbuok02:25
anandanbuthnx Lunar_Lamp02:25
Lunar_Lampanandanbu, you will need root/sudo acces to save any changes to the file though.02:25
SillyZ!seen hawkind02:25
ubotuI haven't seen hawkind recently02:25
superkirbyartisteriksays?02:25
anandanbuok02:25
vox754!attitude > un_operateur02:26
SillyZ!seen haesslich02:26
ubotuI haven't seen haesslich recently02:26
SillyZhmmmph02:26
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un_operateurvox754, thanks but it was not meant to offend, just some light humour :)02:26
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vox754haha02:27
un_operateurvox754, you know... christmas time, merry spirits, etc ..02:27
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Stormx2How do I add "/usr/local/lib" to some config thing (maybe ld?) so that xchat can find .so files there?02:27
Stormx2Oh, and jesus loves you all ;-)02:28
un_operateurStormx2, what .so files is xchat missing?02:28
cafuego_Stormx2: /etc/ld.so.conf02:28
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Stormx2cafuego_: Just add "/usr/local/lib", yeah?02:29
nnStormx2: aww i <3 jesus02:29
cafuego_yup02:29
Stormx2what a rocking guy02:29
Stormx2xD02:29
cafuego_JEEBUS!02:29
Stormx2cafuego_: After that, should I restart xchat?02:29
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Stormx2Bleh.02:30
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Stormx2I'll try anyway02:30
digin4damn gnome toolbars froze02:31
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djf8d7fawhat's the bash command to pipe output to a file?02:31
Stormx2Bleh02:31
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Stormx2 AutoLoad failed for: /home/barney/.xchat2/audacious-show-1.2.0.so02:31
Stormx2 libaudacious.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory02:31
un_operateurpipe output or redirect output?02:31
Stormx2djf8d7fa: >> or >02:31
Gosha!tomoe02:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tomoe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:31
djf8d7fathanks02:31
Gosha.. wee02:31
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vox754!Enter > Stormx202:31
Goshawhere did tomoe go?02:31
Stormx2djf8d7fa: One appends, one writes new.02:31
Gosha!uim02:31
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ubotuuim: Simple and flexible input method collection and library. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.2.1-3ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 20 kB02:31
Stormx2vox754: yeah yeah02:31
Stormx2vox754: Gimme a break02:32
Blue_pHey, can someone help me with a pc problem - My pc wont detect my mp4 player at all02:32
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Stormx2vox754: You wanted !paste anyway ;-)02:32
Stormx2cafuego, still around?02:32
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cafuego_of course02:32
cafuego_do you expect me to have a life?02:33
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Stormx2cafuego_: I've added it, saved, etc02:33
Ellyhey guys...is there a way to install ubuntu with grsecurity patches?02:33
Stormx2cafuego_: Hahahaha.02:33
cafuego_No Mr Bond, I expect you to die!02:33
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Stormx2cafuego_: I restarted x-chat, but it still wouldn't load it (see the error I posted). Do I need to restart anything else?02:33
Stormx2wait02:33
Stormx2Run02:33
Stormx2ldconfig02:33
Stormx2right?02:33
cafuego_yah02:34
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Stormx2Still no show, same error.02:35
Stormx2cafuego ^^02:35
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Goshawhat happened to tomoe in edgy? >_<02:36
Stormx2Gosha: What is tomoe? lol02:36
cafuego_Stormx2: run 'ldd  /home/barney/.xchat2/audacious-show-1.2.0.so'02:36
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cafuego_Stormx2: Oh, whilst you're at it, cehck the permissions on stuff in /usr/local/lib02:37
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un_operateurStormx2, just wondering, you were asking earlier about adding "/usr/local/lib" in, but then you come out with missing .so in "/home.." -- are you sure you added the right dir in?02:37
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Goshatomoe = handwriting recognition stuff, japanese02:37
Stormx2un_operateur: Well the thing is in /usr/local/lib02:37
cafuego_un_operateur: the .so in home won't laod because of a lib it depends on, I expect that one is in /usr/local/lib02:37
Stormx2un_operateur: The x-chat plugin is in my ~02:37
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Stormx2libaudacious.so.4 => not found02:38
un_operateurright, i see02:38
superkirbyartistOK, someone gave me some code, and it REMOVED the splash screens both before and after desktop loads.  How can I set it back to normal?02:38
Stormx2libaudacious.so.4 is symlinked to this:02:38
Stormx2-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   194841 2006-12-16 02:02 libaudacious.so.4.0.002:38
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Stormx2Shall I 777 it for the hell of it?02:39
Stormx2cafuego_ ^^02:39
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LongkerDandyi want install Amule on my ubuntu server, i'm wondered if the "amule-daemon" just enough02:40
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nnStormx2: not a good idea. no02:40
DigitalNinjaI'm trying to umount /tmp. It's not working. The device is busy. Is there a way to forice a umount of /tmp?02:40
nnStormx2: 755 is fine02:40
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vox754superkirby: you can browse here http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=1170551402:41
Stormx2Hmm02:41
Stormx2its not like its access denied02:41
Stormx2Its actually not finding it02:41
nnand where is it?02:41
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Stormx2/usr/local/lib02:41
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etiennehi02:42
wyld!hi02:42
ubotuHi! Welcome to #ubuntu!02:42
nnis /usr/local/lib in /etc/ld.so.conf?02:42
vox754DigitalNinja: I guess you can't, it seems like a "system's folder"02:43
Stormx2nn: yeah02:43
cafuego_Stormx2: What does `file' say about libaudacious.so.4.0.0 ?02:43
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michelphappy holidays!  is there a way to upgrade my dapper install to edgy?  the update manager tells me there is a new distribution 6.06 LTS but i I want 6.1002:43
michelpwill 6.06 LTS let me update to 6.10?02:43
DigitalNinjavox754: I did it! I'm not sure how but /tmp is not mounted.02:43
thoreauputic!upgrade02:43
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes02:43
un_operateur!upgrade | michelp02:43
ubotumichelp: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes02:43
nnmichelp: dapper you need to upgrade to breezy then up, i believe02:44
cafuego_DigitalNinja: stop all processes that are using /tmp (easiest is to go to single-user mode, runlevel 1)02:44
michelpthanks02:44
michelpsorry for the noise02:44
michelp!upgrade02:44
Stormx2cafuego_: How do I use it?02:44
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thoreauputicnn: no, breezy was before dapper :)02:44
cafuego_Stormx2: file <filename>02:44
nnOH02:44
vox754michelp: Dapper is 6.0602:44
Stormx2libaudacious.so.4.0.0: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), not stripped02:44
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michelpi think i might have breezy on this laptop02:44
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michelpit's not actually mine, i'm using edgy on mine, i'm upgrading a friend02:44
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nnthoreauputic: oh ya, i went fro hoary to edgy :)02:45
Ashton_KHello.02:45
thoreauputicmichelp: breezy > dapper > edgy02:45
cafuego_michelp: 'lsb_release -a'02:45
Stormx2breezy < dapper < edgy02:45
Stormx2surely? ;)02:45
michelpah yes, i have breezy02:45
michelpso dapper first, then edgy02:45
thoreauputicnn: umm - annd it didn't break? Or you reinstalled , right?02:45
un_operateuryou should be able to go straight from breezy to edgy without any problems02:45
Ashton_KIt seems make menuconfig isn't working for me, gives me a bunch of "undeclared" and "implicit declaration" errors.02:45
Ashton_KAny ideas?02:45
lupine_85un_operateur: erm, no02:45
cafuego_Stormx2: Depends on whether they're greater than or arrows02:45
nnthoreauputic: i did upgrades, edgy => breezy => dapper => edgy02:46
Ashton_K(I have the metapackages the wiki told me I needed to compile a new kernel)02:46
nnAshton_K: you're missing ncurses-dev i bet02:46
cafuego_nn: liar02:46
thoreauputicStormx2: that's math, mine was arroes ;)02:46
thoreauputic*arrows02:46
nncafuego_: eh?02:46
Stormx2thoreauputic: haha ;) okay02:46
cafuego_nn: edgy => breezy?02:46
nnoh, hoary => breezy, not edgy02:46
Ashton_KLooks like I didn't have it, let's see if that fixes things.02:46
nncafuego_: Typo :)02:46
thoreauputicStormx2: I probably should have used -->02:46
thoreauputic;-)02:46
Ashton_Knn: You're a genius.02:46
Ashton_K:P02:46
Stormx2thoreauputic: its okay, no worries :)02:46
Stormx2Ima go to bed soon, I think02:47
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cafuego_Does dist-upgrade from dapper to edgy work these days or will it bork a machine still?02:47
un_operateurlupine_85, errm, I managed to get from dapper to feisty alright -- i dont see why not02:47
Stormx2Ima just see if there is anything I can do to get this working...02:47
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lupine_85!worksforme02:47
thoreauputic:D02:47
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.02:47
Stormx2cafuego_: Does it normally not work?02:47
lupine_85!upgrade02:47
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes02:47
lupine_85put the two together... what do you get?02:47
nnAshton_K: nawh, just been using linux for almost 10 years now :)02:47
cafuego_Stormx2: Completely broke my machine when I did it02:47
Stormx2Jesus02:47
Stormx2I swear I've broken sudo02:47
un_operateurlupine_85, conspiracy ?? :)02:48
Stormx2One minute02:48
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lupine_85un_operateur: yeah, something like that02:48
Stormx2sudo <command> does nothing...02:48
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cafuego_luckily I don't have peoblems with manaully fixing up an mdraid system and reinstalling without trashing /home02:48
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Stormx2oh02:48
Stormx2no it does02:48
MrSproutCould someone help me with gnome themes.02:48
Stormx2just gedit02:48
Stormx2xD02:48
MrSproutThey fail to install every time.02:48
lupine_85gksudo gedit ...02:48
lupine_85don't sudo gui apps02:48
un_operateurlupine_85, linux has always been about "work-for-me" it's always been that way, no progress gets by without it .. frankly i dont see the point of upgrading to a distro if you are going to use it for an hour02:49
Stormx2lupine_85: Yeah.02:49
Stormx2Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.02:49
Stormx2Eek.02:49
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Stormx2I guess thats me launching gedit with sudo...02:49
Stormx2Anyway02:49
lupine_85un_operateur: indeed. What was missing from your advice was the "I'll sit on IRC and help you if it breaks"02:49
Stormx2reboot time02:49
Stormx2;)02:49
lupine_85I certainly don't fancy taking that one up02:50
kenshinQUESTION: Whenever I try to add a printer from gnome or KDE, CUPS seems freeze my PC so that I have to use the reset button. How can I troubleshoot and fix this? Using dapper.02:50
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un_operateurlupine_85, aye, mileage variation and all that -- fair enough :)02:51
thoreauputiccafuego: I tried the update thingy - it crashed half way through and I ended up doing aptitude dist-upgrade ; dpkg --configure -a ; dist-upgrade etc etc ( finally made it with a couple of apt-get -f installs thhrown in ;)02:51
lupine_85:)02:51
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cafuego_thoreauputic: ... but after that it did boot up?02:51
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MrSproutCan anyone help me with gnome theme installation, I get a "wrong filetype" message every time I try to install one02:51
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thoreauputiccafuego: yes, but it had a few issues02:51
vanbergeif i've added a new monitor, whats the easiest way to reconfigure X ?  :-/  my new monitor supports 1280x1024 but can't set that in the screen resolution dialogue02:52
cafuego_thoreauputic: Ok, I'll just go for the fresh install then.02:52
MrSproutvanberge02:52
thoreauputiccafuego: I'm just running dapper now ( I didn't see much i wanted in edgy)02:52
MrSproutxorg.conf02:52
lupine_85!info python-kde3 feisty02:52
ubotupython-kde3: KDE3 bindings for Python. In component main, is optional. Version 3.16.0-0ubuntu5 (feisty), package size 5277 kB, installed size 26920 kB02:52
cafuego_thoreauputic: For this box the newer beagle would be nice02:52
etunbemerry christmas, just installed xchat and by the face02:52
thoreauputiccafuego: although edgy is still there on my other partitons02:52
MrSproutand change all the highest monitor resolutions to the one you want02:52
etunbehere02:52
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MrSproutand save02:52
MrSproutworked for me02:52
cafuego_thoreauputic: the edgy one doesn't normally eat 1GB of ram like the dapper one does.02:52
vanbergeMrSprout, the easiest way is to edit the file?02:53
thoreauputiccafuego:  beagle? *shudder*02:53
Ashton_Knn: So after "Make menuconfig" and "make" is there something else I'm missing?02:53
lupine_85vanberge: definitely02:53
MrSproutsudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:53
lupine_85gksudo gedit ...02:53
cafuego_thoreauputic: very handy when you have a few GB of mail you need to search02:53
thoreauputiccafuego: ah, well that's something I guess02:53
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nnAshton_K: make modules modules_install install02:53
nni think02:53
cafuego_thoreauputic: .. and a few tens of GB of legacy data (word docs etc)02:53
thoreauputiccafuego: I use sylpheed and couldn't see how to get beagle to acknowledge my mail's existence02:54
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cafuego_thoreauputic: in fact, VERY useful in that regard :-)02:54
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cafuego_thoreauputic: you can probably point it at your local maildir or mbox02:54
thoreauputicyes, for the word docs I can see the point02:54
SenesenceWill I ever have to defrag my ubuntu partition?02:54
cafuego_thoreauputic: mine picks up the evolution imap cache02:54
cafuego_Senesence: nope02:54
thoreauputicSenesence: no02:54
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Ashton_KStill building.02:55
SenesenceOk, I guess that takes care of me. Later guys happy holidays.02:55
Ashton_KThis might take a while.02:55
Ashton_KYou too Senesence02:55
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Ashton_KOh noes, errors.02:55
Ashton_KProbably because I mucked around in the .config files before using make menuconfig.02:56
Ashton_KSo anyways, when's 2.6.20 coming out, and is it worth upgrading from 17?02:57
MrSproutHow do I change icon sizes.02:57
MrSproutdefault icon sizes02:57
MrSproutrather02:57
cafuego_Ashton_K: WIR is usual :-)02:57
Ashton_KWIR?02:57
cafuego_When Its Ready02:58
lupine_85Ashton_K: feisty has 2.6.20rc2 or something like that02:58
Ashton_KWell, yeah.02:58
Ashton_KI thought feisty was still a long way from release.02:58
cafuego_april02:58
Ashton_KAh.02:58
cafuego_it didn't crash when I booted it the other day, though02:59
Ashton_KAny new features in .20 that'd make it worth the upgrade from .17?02:59
Ashton_KOh, you're running experimental? Brave man.02:59
Ashton_KOr woman, whatever.02:59
thoreauputicanyway edgy is no fun - it doesn't break any more ;p02:59
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Ashton_KThat's the problem with Linux users.02:59
Ashton_K"It's no fun if there's nothing to fix on my own!"02:59
thoreauputicheheh02:59
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cafuego_thoreauputic: rm -rf /bin/bash; reboot02:59
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thoreauputicAshton_K: i like to have one stable install and one to play with :)03:00
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cafuego_you cna always try to get xen working under edgy03:00
thoreauputiccafuego: yeah, that would do it :)03:00
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levanderWhen I start bittornado, I keep getting an "Couldn't listen - (98, 'Adress already in use')" error.  Somebody can tell me how to get around this?03:02
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cafuego_levander: kill the prevuious instance that's using the bittorrent port03:03
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nnnjws01 login: jimmy.neutron03:04
Ashton_KPraying time!03:04
nn         Access denied. Please insert your smartcard and try again!03:04
nnwoohooo03:04
ArithmomaniacI am having serious problems with the 915 resolution installation03:04
cafuego_Ashton_K: whatnow? why?03:04
Ashton_KSmartcard security?03:04
Ashton_KOh, joy!03:04
ArithmomaniacI have an Acer Aspire 164003:04
bushelhi @ all03:04
levandercafuego_: that's the thing, I thought I had.03:04
nnAshton_K: oh yeaaa03:04
cafuego_Ashton_K: make-kpkg03:04
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Ashton_Kcafuego, compiling a kernel so it'll like my wireless driver better.03:04
nn          You have connected to a U.S. government information system.03:04
kenshinwhat's a good channel to ask a cups question in?03:04
ArithmomaniacWith an intel 915GM card03:04
nn                       This device is administered by:03:04
nn             Department of Defense, Department of Ninja Affairs03:04
busheli try to conect to the inet but cant find kinternet03:04
Ashton_KOh my.03:04
nnwtf is dept of ninja affairs?03:04
levandercafuego_: but, I waited awhile, typed in above, and tried again, it started fine.  Maybe it just takes longer than usual for bittornado to release the port?03:05
ArithmomaniacI'm afraid I'm being lost...03:05
cafuego_levander: Just cehck what's using the port via 'netstat'03:05
Arithmomaniac...these should be forked03:05
Ashton_Klevander, or it's leaking internet connections.03:05
idlemindbecause bush is all smoke and mirrors03:05
Ashton_KWhich differs from other politicians how?03:05
ArithmomaniacAnyways, I have this 915 chipset..03:05
Arithmomaniac...And it only does 1024x76803:05
ArithmomaniacI have a 1280x800 monitor, so it is driven me crazy03:06
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Ashton_KHrm, shit monkeys.03:06
nnAshton_K: Im kind of confused about DNA :)03:06
Ashton_KWhen this thing is done, it's gonna write over my current kernel isn't it?03:06
ArithmomaniacI tried to edit my xorg, but it was read-only, and I don't know how to edit permossions03:07
nnare they really ninjas?03:07
nnAshton_K: No03:07
ArithmomaniacWhat cany I do about this?03:07
Ashton_Kk, good.03:07
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cafuego_Arithmomaniac: 'sudop dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'03:07
ArithmomaniacFirst, I tried the think on the wiki page03:07
Ashton_KWhat'll be called? Will it just add a few ABI numebrs?03:07
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Arithmomaniaccafuego_03:07
nnbbl03:08
Captain_RedbeardHmm I'm having troubles with java... I can't seem to get java 1.5 installed...03:08
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ArithmomaniacI did that, and I just ended up with more options than I can handle03:08
Ashton_KHrm, when this kernel compilation is done, where will the kernel image be located?03:08
ArithmomaniacFirst, the wiki page recomments enabling i81503:08
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Arithmomaniacfor the first box03:08
ArithmomaniacBut that is not even a question03:08
ArithmomaniacI mean, option03:08
thoreauputicCaptain_Redbeard: did you run  sudo update-alternatives --config java  ?03:08
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kenshinis there any reason not to upgrade from dapper to edgy?03:09
kitcheArithmomaniac: sure it is it's i810 not i81503:09
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ArithmomaniacBut then what about all the options afterwards?03:09
kitchekenshin: dapper is still being supported that's the only reason really03:09
Ashton_KKenshin, the Atheros chipset wireless cards are having spotchy problems in edgy.03:09
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Draxzohey guys.. any clue what program I can use to install a .bin file?03:09
Ashton_KMine is borked, but not all of them are.03:09
ArithmomaniacAnd after a long time, it asks for more screen resolutions...03:09
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kenshinAshton_K, don't have a wireless card, but thanks for the heads-up03:10
Arithmomaniac...which I could use...03:10
kitcheDraxzo" .bin is self-executable03:10
Captain_Redbeardthoreauputic: uhm... nopes thanks though I'll give it a try and i'll see what it yields03:10
thoreauputickenshin: 3 years support for 6.06 LTS, 18 months for edgy03:10
ArithmomaniacAnd none are 1280x80003:10
thoreauputicCaptain_Redbeard: you need to do that03:10
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hope13does it cost money for LTS version?03:10
hope13>,>03:10
Ashton_Kthoreaputic, that's paid support right?03:10
bizinichi`sup?03:10
raxipyo03:10
kenshincommercial support?03:10
thoreauputicCaptain_Redbeard: you just type the right number for it :)03:10
kitchehope13: no only for commerical support it costs03:10
hope13oh03:10
Captain_Redbeardthoreauputic: wicked... :D03:10
thoreauputicAshton_K: no, just means the repos will be around longer I think03:11
ArithmomaniacThat's about where I got up to03:11
kenshinis #ubuntu the free support?03:11
Draxzokitche, how do I execute it? :)03:11
Ashton_KAh.03:11
bizinichi`out of interest03:11
raxipyou tell me03:11
ArithmomaniacI'll do it again. why not03:11
Ashton_KSo Edgy is supposed to have a shorter lifespan?03:11
hope13it's every six month no?03:11
kitcheDraxzo: chmod +x <name>.bin then ./<name>.bin03:11
makuseruHi, I have a problem. I restarted my computer and after i rebooted i dont have sound anymore. Can someone help?03:11
thoreauputicAshton_K: yes, same as warty, hoary, breezy03:11
Ashton_K18 months vs 3 years.03:11
Ashton_K:P03:11
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hope13um i have breezy03:11
kitchehope13: ubuntu is released every 6 months03:11
Ashton_KDapper seems pretty damned stable though.03:11
hope13i don't have a blank cd03:11
Draxzooh, it's a .package kitche03:11
Ashton_KInternet upgrades.03:11
thoreauputicAshton_K: it is03:12
kitcheDraxzo: same way then03:12
hope13how do you do that?03:12
Ashton_KI might downgrade.03:12
Draxzosweet kitche :)03:12
hope13i'm new lol03:12
ArithmomaniacTHe autodetect does not work, so I'm going to the i81003:12
Ashton_KThis whole "No wireless thing" puts a tick in everything.03:12
bushelhow can I find Kinternet?03:12
Trynemj0elDraxzo, http://www.jonhoweonline.com/blog/node/8203:12
Captain_RedbeardUhm... what is the real difference in FrostWire and LimeWire..? FrostWire is opensource... but it has a close to identical interface?03:12
hope13lol i have broadcom03:12
Ashton_KIs fiesty gonna have LTS like Dapper?03:12
hope13T_T03:12
thoreauputicAshton_K: no03:12
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kitche!frostwire03:12
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire03:12
makuseruwhat is LTS?03:12
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thoreauputicAshton_K: I don't know how often the LTS releases are03:13
hope13is it in java?03:13
kitcheLong term support03:13
thoreauputic!lts03:13
ubotuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.03:13
superkirbyartistOK, how do I install the splash before/after Ubuntu?03:13
hope13is frost wire in java?03:13
Ashton_KI'm not going to be able to babysit this machine, so I might downgrade to 6.0603:13
Draxzooh, thanks for the link Trynemj0el :)03:13
Pie-rateWhy does linux seem to be worse than windows at multitasking, especially for games? For example, if i'm running the Jedi Knight 2 Dedicated Server in the background on windows and i max out the priority, the server never lags. on linux with nice -20, the server lags when i open the game client.03:13
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Ashton_KThe users of these machines won't be able to tell the differences in the Kernels anyawys.03:13
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Ashton_KPie-Rate, it might be the IPv6 stack....03:14
Ashton_KI believe not everyone uses it yet.03:14
thoreauputicPie-rate: nice -20 ? that's extreme03:14
ArithmomaniacFinally, it works.03:14
ArithmomaniacI found 1280x80003:14
Ashton_KI mean hell, the EA BF2 server denies connections to those using IPv6.03:14
digin4argh nvidia drivers aren't working on edgy :(03:14
makuseruwhat is LTS?03:14
Pie-ratethoreauputic: yes, but it still doesn't totally remove all lag03:14
makuseruoops03:14
makuseruHi, I have a problem. I restarted my computer and after i rebooted i dont have sound anymore. Can someone help?03:14
Ashton_KAre you in the sound group?03:15
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thoreauputicPie-rate: I think you got the renice the wrong way round03:15
ArithmomaniacBut not it asks for the "best" rate, and the 1280x800 won't work03:15
neuratixmakuseru: check that both pcm and headphone volume is turned up03:15
Ashton_Kmakuseru: System -> Administration -> Users and Groups03:15
thoreauputicPie-rate: don't you want to renice other processes ?03:15
ArithmomaniacI mean, it's not there03:15
Pie-ratethoreauputic: the process sits at 0-1% usage anyway, why does it matter if its ultra-high priority?03:15
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ArithmomaniacShould I jsut pick the best one I know my monitor can do?03:16
thoreauputicPie-rate: *shrug* I might be misunderstanding you03:16
Ashton_KClick your name, check "Properties" and go to "User Priviledges," Make sure "Able to use Audio devices" is checked.03:16
ArithmomaniacI just don't know03:16
Ashton_K(I miss the old user groups in the GUI tool)03:16
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ArithmomaniacI accidentally pressed enter from the description03:16
ArithmomaniacAnd can't go back and read it03:16
Ashton_KArgh, still compiling03:17
ArithmomaniacI'll try 1024x76803:17
Pie-ratethoreauputic: basically i want the server process (the one i'm renicing to -20) to never ever lag, even if i'm trying to use all the system's resources with another program03:17
makuseruAshton_K: what does that have to do with sound?03:17
digin4what's the nvidia package name for edgy?03:17
makuseruoh03:17
makuserunvm03:17
ArithmomaniacOK. Not I have to turn off X-server...03:18
Ashton_KIf you aren't included in the "sound" group, it won't let you play sounds.03:18
Ashton_K:P03:18
cyphasedoes anyone know anything about network manager 0.7.0?03:18
kitchedigin4: nvidia-glx03:18
Ashton_KHence the "Allow to use audio devices" option.03:18
digin4kitche, it says it's broken :(03:18
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Ashton_KAnd, the make option returned: A shit ton of errors.03:20
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JAnYouHi, I am trying to make configuration of the Emacs using lisp. Is there some start guiline  to lisp programming?03:22
Ashton_KMaybe the more stable dapper would be wise for a machine that noobs will be using.03:22
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thoreauputicJAnYou: umm - have you tried googling for "lisp programming emacs" or similar?03:23
_fnordwhats e code name for 6.0603:23
Ashton_Kdapper03:23
Ashton_KDapper Drake actually03:23
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thoreauputicor "lisp configuration emacs" I suppose ...03:23
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kenThomsonMerry X'Mas!!!03:24
kenThomsonAnyone awake?03:24
Ashton_KYes.03:24
thoreauputicyes03:24
thoreauputicsort of03:24
thoreauputic;p03:24
hope13merry xmas03:24
NikolasJesusmas insult kazakhstan03:24
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thoreauputicNikolas: chill03:25
hope13merry kwaza03:25
kenThomsonDo any of you use fs-driver.org's drivers to write files to ext3 fron Windows?03:25
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lupine_85meh. you lot are all a bunch of monotheists anyway03:25
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hope13i'm agnostic lol03:25
lupine_85Nikolas: my gods kick the, ahem, bottom of your god any day03:25
thoreauputicOK before this gets out of hand - religion is off-yopic03:25
kenThomsonyes03:25
lupine_85I know :) sorry03:25
Ashton_KMerry Christmas, it isn't a christian holiday anyways (athiest here)03:25
Lunar_Lamplupine_85, monotheist and proud I am ;-)03:25
NikolasFor the record: I'm not from kazakhstan and I'm an atheist03:26
hope13yeaaah athiest!03:26
hope13lol03:26
thoreauputic*cough* I *really* don't want to kick people today....03:26
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Lunar_Lampthoreauputic, sorry, though I still wish everyone a Happy Christmas :-)03:26
kenThomsonNow if i could get some attention, once the religious summit is over; Do any of you use fs-driver.org's drivers to write files to ext3 from Windows?03:26
thoreauputicOK :)03:26
hope13i dunno03:27
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thoreauputickenThomson: no windows on my boxen, sorry03:27
kenThomsonno-one?03:27
hope13how do i update my ubuntu from 5.10 to 6.10 without having a blank cd?03:27
Lunar_LampkenThomson, I don't, but I believe they work well.03:27
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hope13>,>03:27
Ashton_KNo, I don't.03:27
makuseruis there anyway to add free space on a drive to another partition03:27
QwertyMmmm, how does one disable maximize and minimize effects in gnome ?03:27
Ashton_KI'd imagine they work fine though, since ext3 and 2 are open source.03:27
kenThomsonOK03:27
Ashton_KSo open source drivers for windows to write/read ext2 and 3 should be fine.03:28
lupine_85I know the ext2 one works well03:28
omglolim trying to setup my wifi card. wifi radar dont show anything. but iwconfig shows the card is detected. whats wrong?03:28
lupine_85dunno about the ext3 one03:28
Ashton_KI'm still leary of ntfs-36.03:28
Ashton_K*3g03:28
kenThomsonOne more thing how many of you are on GNOME and on KDE. And what do you recommend form both this environments from your personal experience?03:28
Ashton_KI don't know why ext3 wouldn't work.03:28
hope13is the wifi a broadcom?03:28
Ashton_KGnome here.03:28
Ashton_KI want to try Beryl (does that replace X? Or does it replace Gnome?)03:28
lupine_85omglol: how about sudo iwlist <interface> ?03:28
lupine_85Ashton_K: neither. it replaces metacity03:28
hope13x is always with unix03:28
makuseruis there anyway to add free space on a drive to another partition03:28
hope13no?03:28
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lupine_85my wifi card doesn't play well with scanning and not being a root user. Quite strange.03:29
kenThomsonmakuseru: I dont think so03:29
thoreauputicmakuseru: use gparted from the live CD03:29
slickycan i install kde when iv already got gnome installed?03:29
kenThomsonPeople KDE or GNOME, and why?03:29
Lunar_LampkenThomson, kde is more widely used and slightly closer to default windows. I used it for a long time then switched to GNOME when I changed to ubuntu.  It's a bit different, but they are both good imo.  I prefer gnome now as I'm more used to it.03:29
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omglollupine_85: i get unknown command 'wlan0'03:29
hope13Gnome cuz it's default with ubuntu lol03:29
lupine_85erm, add a scan between iwlist and <interface> :)03:29
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makuseruthoreauputic: i want to keep my root partition, im just trying to add space i have to the partition03:30
kenThomsonLunar_Lamp: I was looking for some strong reasons aside for the lethargy to change defaults, thanks anyways :)03:30
omglollupine_85: i get 'no sacn results'03:30
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kenThomsonlupine_85: KDE or GNOME and why?03:30
Ashton_KI prefer Gnome, cleaner.03:30
Ashton_KLess clutter.03:30
hope13GNOME cuz it's default03:30
hope13and it make life easier03:30
hope13lol03:30
Ashton_KAnd I found that Kubuntu for some reason doesn't work quite the same.03:30
slideIs there anyway to make it so when a file is created in a certain directory, it will automatically take on the owner/group from the parent dir?03:30
Ashton_KAnd gave me issues with nvidia-glx.03:30
SmashCatHi, anyone here any good with wine? I need to set a virtual desktop for an app, but winecfg has that option greyed out, so I'm wondering where it stores settings so I can do it manually.03:30
lupine_85kenThomson: either, because life is too short to care03:30
thoreauputicmakuseru: it depends how your partitions are configured, really - tomergae partitions you have to do destructive stuff03:31
eztkanyone happen to know how to undo xmodmap changes... i tried to disable control + backspace.. but it seems to have messed up certain keys03:31
thoreauputicmakuseru: umm - I meant "to merge partitions"03:31
Ashton_KWhat are the differences between ext2, 3, and the new 4 anyways?03:31
makuserui have a happer03:31
makuseruhammer*03:31
makuserudestructive enough?03:31
hope13um how can update from 5.10 to 6.10 w/o a blank cd? is there a way?03:31
kenThomsonlupine_85: Apart from philosophy if we could shrink it down to the pragmatic level, why?03:31
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thoreauputicmakuseru: heheh - not strong on metaphors are you ;-)03:32
kenThomsonAshton_K: The Ext3 file system is the Ext2 file system which has been extended by journaling. Ext3 is backward-compatible to Ext2 - an Ext3 volume can be mounted and used as an Ext2 volume. Just as older Linux Kernels which do not know the Ext3 file system can mount Ext3 volumes (as Ext2 volumes), the Ext2 file system driver ext2fs.sys for Windows incorporated in this software package can do...03:32
kenThomson...it without any problems, too. Of course you do not take advantage of the journaling of the Ext3 file system if you mount it as an Ext2 file system.03:32
makuseruthoreauputic: i was being scarcastic03:32
thoreauputicmakuseru: yes, i gathered - so was I :)03:32
Ashton_Kken, any major advantages to using one, or the other?03:32
_fnordkubuntu-offtopic03:32
lupine_85kenThomson: really. use whatever you like03:32
thoreauputicmakuseru: hence the smiley03:33
makuseruah03:33
lupine_85although linus torvalds says use KDE... :p03:33
kenThomsonlupine_85: As far as your choice goes....what do you recommend? (is it really hard to answer me)03:33
kenThomsonlupine_85: yeah i heard that03:33
Ashton_KTry them both out.03:33
Ashton_KIt's a preference thing.03:33
_fnord<----loves kde03:33
lupine_85I only make a recommendation when it's likely to be useful03:33
kenThomsonAshton_K: Ext2 = newer, safer, journalled.03:34
idlemindkde seems to flashy to me03:34
kenThomsonAshton_K: *Make that EXT#03:34
lupine_85that said, I find that the KDE integrated apps tend to be better than the GNOME integrated aps03:34
Ashton_KExt2 is newer?03:34
Ashton_KAh, 3.03:34
kenThomsonAshton_K: *Make that EXT303:34
lupine_85so use KDE, why not?03:34
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thoreauputicmakuseru: the basic problem is that you can't push one partition into another - you have to destroy something to make space03:34
Ashton_K(What the hell is Journaling, or would it be hard to explain?)03:34
kitcheAshton_K: ext3 is being replaced in a while with ext403:34
lupine_85it's a record of all your disc operations03:34
_fnordive noticed kde runs slower on my computer and other agree,yet people also agree the gnome runs slower on thiers,s try t out see whch one works best03:34
lupine_85an, ahem, journal of them :p03:34
omglollupine_85: i get unknown command 'wlan0' when i do 'iwlist wlan0 scanning03:35
omglollupine_85: i get unknown command 'wlan0' when i do 'iwlist wlan0 scanning'03:35
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Ashton_KLupine, did you strip it down or something?03:35
lupine_85omglol: iwlist wlan0 scan != iwlist wlan0 scanning03:35
_fnordkde is great for eyecandy03:35
lupine_85Ashton_K: no, it was like that OOTB03:35
Ashton_KStrange.03:35
Ashton_KMust be a library thing.03:35
makuseruthoreauputic: well, i only have one partition, the other WAS a partition, i eraced it, so now its just "free"03:35
lupine_85xubuntu vs. kununtu03:35
lupine_85erm, kubuntu03:35
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omglollupine_85: i get no scan results03:36
Ashton_KPersonally, I find Gnome to be better.03:36
thoreauputicmakuseru: then you can expand into the free space03:36
Ashton_KCleaner, faster, etc.03:36
makuseruhow?03:36
Ashton_KBut that's just in my experience.03:36
thoreauputicmakuseru: or make it a partition03:36
Ashton_K(Although SUSE has a pretty freaking nice setup on KDE)03:36
lupine_85omglol: are you in range of the AP? Is SSID broadcast enabled? any errors in dmesg?03:36
lupine_85SuSE-- :p03:36
makuseruthoreauputic: im trying to expand my root into that free space03:36
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Ashton_KI feel like capitalizing the u, so sue me.03:36
thoreauputicmakuseru: is it "next door" ?03:36
makuseruyes03:36
kenThomsonPeople: What bittorent clients you use? (i find the choices in GNOME to be extremely limited)03:36
lupine_85ktorrent03:36
kenThomsonlupine_85: ktorrent looks like sh*t on GNOME :(03:37
makuseruktorrent > any other torrent client ever03:37
Ashton_KLooks aren't important with bittorrent.03:37
Ashton_K:P03:37
thoreauputicmakuseru: maybe make a new partition, and copy over something from the root partition - like /var/ or /usr or whatever03:37
omglollupine_85: im close enough.. on my laptop i can see 3 ap... on my problematic desktop i see none03:37
d3bian<ken> you can just use bt03:37
lupine_85rtorrent?03:37
Ashton_KWould installing the kde libraries help with those look issues.03:37
Ashton_K*?03:37
kenThomsonAshton_K: but it shouldn't hurt my eyes, or should it?03:37
kenThomsonlupine_85: what is that?03:37
thoreauputicmakuseru: of course you would need to fiddle with /etc/fstab and so on03:37
Ashton_KEh, doesn't matter, tbh.03:37
lupine_85!info rtorrent03:38
uboturtorrent: ncurses BitTorrent client based on LibTorrent. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.3-1 (edgy), package size 232 kB, installed size 636 kB03:38
Ashton_KI'd take a text-based torrent client actually.03:38
lupine_85it's quite nice03:38
Ashton_KIsn't Azureus open source?03:38
Ashton_KIf so, a lot of trackers trust it.03:38
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kenThomsonlupine_85: You use rtorrent or ktorrent?03:38
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busheli9s there anybody that could help with a setup of a dailup connection ppp?03:39
Ashton_KThat being said, does Beryl even use KDE or Gnome, or is it something proprietary?03:39
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lupine_85kenThomson: ktorrent at home; rtorrent in london03:39
lupine_85Ashton_K: beryl is WM-independent03:39
Ashton_KThat's what I thought.03:39
lupine_85it's built on cairo, glib and libwnck  -all open-source03:39
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lupine_85beryl itself is GPL :)03:39
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Ashton_KI knew that.03:39
thoreauputicmakuseru: doing that would free space on your root partition - and once it all works you can erase the original /var/ or /usr  etc03:39
Ashton_K:P03:39
Ashton_KThat being said.03:40
Ashton_K6.10 isn't doing what I need.03:40
CmwebIs their any way to limit my networks port 80 to 2KB?   so that when they connect to the internet through my pc they only get 2KB and it does not go any lower or higher. That way we always have a constant speed03:40
Ashton_KTime to downgrade.03:40
makuseruthoreauputic: i didnt understand any of that03:40
Ashton_KEasy way to do it with apt, or should I just find the disc?03:40
thoreauputicmakuseru: hmmm - well maybe it isn't a good idea to do it then :)03:40
makuseruhaha03:40
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kenThomsonAshton_K: and what does it not do?03:40
bushelif there is anybody that could help with a setup of dailup internet conection, please tell me how to do it :) room _> ppp_setup03:41
Ashton_KWireless.03:41
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kenThomsonbushel: pppconf03:41
Ashton_KSeems more powerful, newer kernels, but I'm not going to be available to babysit this machine.03:41
bushelyes pppconfic03:41
Ashton_KThis is going to someone who will just want it to work, without them fiddling with it.03:41
rtrentocould someone help me with a problem I am having printing in xubuntu03:41
kenThomsonbushel: type "sudo pppconf" at a terminal and follow the wizard03:41
Ashton_KEasy way to downgrade in apt to Dapper, or is the disc wiser?03:42
thoreauputicmakuseru: I was suggesting shuffling stuff off "root" onto new partitions you create in the free space, then removing the originals afterwards - but you would need to understand what you were doing03:42
makuseruthoreauputic: is there not a program that will do it?03:42
makuseruthoreauputic: i dont have enough freespace to do that03:42
thoreauputicmakuseru: several - but you still need to know what you are doing03:42
kitcheAshton_K: there is no way to downgrade from within you iwll have to doa complete reinstall03:42
Ashton_Kk03:42
Ashton_KProbably cleaner that way.03:43
thoreauputicmakuseru: how much space do you have?03:43
makuseruim on a 9gb drive, 2gb is in free space, and the rest is my root03:43
CmwebIs their any way to limit my networks port 80 to 2KB?   so that when they connect to the internet through my pc they only get 2KB and it does not go any lower or higher. That way we always have a constant speed03:43
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Ashton_KI'll be back on the other box.03:43
Ashton_K... eventually.03:43
thoreauputicmakuseru: how much of the 9GB is used now?03:43
makuseru803:43
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thoreauputicmakuseru: hmm - yes well....03:43
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thoreauputicmakuseru: how about making the 2GB your /home ? Or part of it?03:44
makuseruhow do i do that?03:44
OkinawaInstructodoes anyone know how to remove xsane without removing ubuntu desktop also... I am having problems getting my scanner to work and somone suggested to remove and reinstall xsane03:44
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thoreauputicmakuseru: depends how much data yoou have of course...03:44
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makuseru8gb03:45
makuseruha03:45
jackycxhhello03:45
bretzelCentrino Core Duo make things fast! especially @compile-time! :-)03:45
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jackycxhI am newbie to Ubuntu.03:45
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thoreauputicmakuseru: running out of ideas here in that case :)03:45
kitcheOkinawaInstructo: ubuntu-desktop is just a meta package that is safe to remove03:46
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OkinawaInstructokitche: thanks, i thought it would remove my desktop also03:46
thoreauputicmakuseru: just make the 2GB a data partition and mount it as /data or something  I guess03:46
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nix_ferretThis is probably going to sound pretty handicapped, but... can you use KDE apps if you're using Gnome?03:46
makuseruhow do i do that?03:47
thoreauputicnix_ferret: sure03:47
SpacePuppynix_ferret: yup03:47
thoreauputicmakuseru: *cough* have you looked at gparted? So you have a live CD?03:47
nix_ferretIs there anything I should know? Like incompatibilities?03:47
bretzelnix_ferret: uh? you can run kde apps in gnome, and gnome-apps in kde :-)03:47
thoreauputic!gparted | makuseru03:47
ubotumakuseru: gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php03:47
makuserui have qtparted03:47
thoreauputicmakuseru: that would be fine03:48
makuserui ment how do i mount it03:48
bretzelthoreauputic -- yeah, last release seems cool to use ( gparted )03:48
thoreauputicmakuseru: put an entry in /etc/fstab for it03:48
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rj45hi my friends03:48
nix_ferretOk, cool. Segway into my next one... Can I switch b/w Gnome and KDE in a dynamic sense. Like maybe at boot time?03:48
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thoreauputicmakuseru: you can also mount manually with something like  sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hd* /data03:49
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thoreauputicmakuseru: but that gets old fast03:49
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ValmarkoWhat is the best dvd player ?03:51
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makuseruvalmarko: okie03:51
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thoreauputicValmarko: hah - matter of opinion03:51
omglolis the kernel inside /usr/src/linux?03:51
leprasmurfhow can I check if a particular module is loaded?  modprobe -l|grep module ?03:51
makuseruvalmarko: okle**03:51
bretzelany tried ubuntu based LinuxMint ?03:51
Valmarkoright :) tanks03:51
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thoreauputicValmarko: vlc, totem-xine, mplayer .....03:52
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omglolwhere is the ubuntu kernel located03:52
thoreauputicomglol: /boot03:52
omglolk03:52
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bking39116hello all!  does anyone have exp. with Brother HL-1440 laser printer and CUPS?03:53
thoreauputicomglol: the actual kernel is "vmlinuz-* " ( with some numbers)03:53
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thoreauputic!anyone03:54
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?03:54
Rprphmm, i tried to install mysqldb, but i fail, so whats wrong with this: http://rafb.net/p/RDQTOh23.html ?03:54
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kitcheRprp: do you have build-essential installed?03:58
Rprpyes.03:58
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kitcheRprp: you can install the binry package probably be easier for you03:58
kitcheSince there is a lot of syntax errors according to the paste that you posted03:59
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Rprphm. :?04:00
Rprpi tried apt-get,... it works. but it says only Connection to MySQL failed (In a script) and the settigns are oke04:01
omgloli installed wireless drivers for acx100, and when i do iwlist wlan scan i get "Interface doesn't support scanning: Resource temporarily unavailable".  cant figure out :(04:01
omglolwifi radar doesnt show anything04:02
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goukiomglol: Have you ifconfig wlan up ?04:02
jackycxhmaybe you kernel had not found the new WL device.04:03
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jackycxhomglol: can you find it in dmesg?04:03
omglolgouki: i did that and i did the scan again and i got "no scan results"04:03
CmwebCan any one tell bushel how to install a modem in edgy04:04
Ashton_KOle!04:04
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goukiomglol: Just to make sure: iwlist wlan scanning04:04
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omgloljackycxh: i do dmesg | grep wlan0 i get wlan0(WE) driver using old /prov/net/wireless support, please see fix driver04:05
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omgloland wlan0: link is not ready04:05
xyzcan any one help04:05
omglolgouki: i did that and get the same error04:05
QwertyMmmm, how does one disable maximize and minimize effects in gnome ?04:05
omglolgouki: i did that and get the same error: no scan results04:05
xyz i get04:06
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xyz configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check04:06
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Ashton_KHooray for watching TV on a computer.04:06
goukiomglol: Are you sure there are WiFi networks around?04:06
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Ashton_KSlightly important to using a wifi card.04:07
omglolgouki: my laptop beside me sees 3 networks04:07
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omglolmy dmesg says driver using old /prov/net/wireless support, please fix driver"04:07
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vaporglowhello04:08
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jackycxhomglol: maybe something wrong with your driver of WL device.04:09
vaporglowfast question: is VMware of any use for playing windows games on linux without having to dual boot?04:09
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kitchevaporglow: it's slow04:09
vaporglowboth graphic intense and non graphic intense04:09
idlemindvaporglow: vmware isn't 3d accel. so most games no04:09
omgloljackycxh: i followed the acx wiki instructions and used the latest stable driver04:10
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vaporglowso wine is the only option, and a buggy option at best04:10
Ashton_KIndeed.04:10
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Ashton_Kif you want intensive games, dual boot is the only way to go, tbh.04:10
Ashton_KEspecially if you want online.04:10
Ashton_KPunkbuster reportedly doesn't like you running games on Wine.04:11
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QwertyMmmm, how does one disable maximize and minimize effects in gnome ?04:11
vaporglownot really worried about playing counterstrike04:11
etunbeQwertyM: effects?04:11
vaporglowfor instance... would something like starcraft work?04:11
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Ashton_KCounterstrike doesn't use PunkBuster.04:11
Ashton_K:P04:11
vaporglowor Civ 404:11
QwertyMetunbe, those rectangulr boxes closing on to bottom or going up04:12
QwertyMdefault gnome max/min effects04:12
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jackycxhCan you try to downgrade the driver to a lower version.04:12
etunbeQwertyM: understand... no idea... are they so unconfortable?04:12
QwertyMetunbe, I find it irritating :)04:13
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etunbeQwertyM: first time i realize they are there... and my machine is 5 years old ;)04:14
QwertyMhaha04:14
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aa ~~   bb04:15
etunbeok, i want to wish all ubuntu users a marry christmas and that 2007 be the year04:15
nix_ferretmarry xmas to u 204:15
nix_ferretand merry too04:16
etunbehahaha04:16
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nix_ferretIs there a list of good laptops to use w/ ubuntu?04:17
bking39116how does one solve a "printer not connected; retry in 30 seconds" error with Brother HL-1440 laser connected via USB.  printer will print until it goes to sleep and then will not wake.04:17
bking39116printint via cups04:17
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astroboy #slug04:20
Mark1412I NEED AN .AVI CONVERTER!!!04:20
Mark1412WHERE CAN I GET ONE04:20
kitche!shout|mark141204:20
ubotumark1412: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.04:20
apokryphosMark1412: drop the caps please.04:20
etunbenix_ferret: may be www.linux-laptop.net?04:20
Mark1412:) merry christmas04:20
lupine_85Mark1412: mencoder04:21
Mark1412ty04:21
lupine_85you already have one, probably04:21
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Cmwebcan some one test my irc server? cmweb.zapto.org the channel: #mshome04:21
apokryphosCmweb: not the place to be asking that. This is an Ubuntu support channel.04:22
apokryphosyou could perhaps try in #ubuntu-offtopic04:22
Cmwebi know but i get no feedback in the offtopic04:22
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apokryphosCmweb: that doesn't make this place the right place.04:22
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toulouselol he just wants someone to test it04:22
Cmweb!iacd04:22
Ashton_KOnly if the IRC server is run on Ubuntu.04:22
ubotuiacd: IRC Server. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.26-5 (edgy), package size 66 kB, installed size 280 kB04:22
Ashton_K:P04:22
tsukoharucan someone please help me04:22
Cmwebdang04:22
apokryphos!helpme04:22
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:22
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etunbetsukoharu: no money04:23
tsukoharuim looking to format my hd with ubuntu on it, but i dont know how to make a windows partition04:23
Ashton_KInstall windows first.04:23
Ashton_KThen Ubuntu.04:23
zzzerotimehi, I have a nvidia ck8s soundcard integrated in my motherboard, under windows it can get up to 5.1, but under linux, its not even getting 2.1, but just 2.0, so only the 2 front speakers sound, how can i fix this? I have checked that surround and center control volumes are set04:23
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tsukoharui cant04:23
Ashton_KBecause....?04:23
tsukoharuwhen i put in the cd nothing happens04:23
Ashton_KCheck your BIOS.04:23
tsukoharuthen again the cd player doesnt work at all since i installed ubuntu04:23
toulousecheck the bios04:23
Ashton_KMake sure the boot order is set so CD is before harddrive.04:23
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zzzerotimeAshton_K, any idea?04:24
linux_user400354why would someone do make oldconfig and then run make menuconfig. are they using an old config or making a new one?04:24
kitchelinux_user400354: they are using the old config as a base for menuconfig04:24
linux_user400354kitche: is that what you do?04:24
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kitchelinux_user400354: no I load my old config right in menuconfig makes it easier04:25
Ashton_KNo, I'm not very good with soundcards.04:25
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kitcheCmweb: doesn't work04:25
Cmwebin iacd how do i become a registerd user04:25
Cmwebdanget dam firewall04:25
linux_user400354kitche: since its my first time and i dont have a .config yet, i probably should use a base config. what do you think?04:26
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IndyGunFreakyeah, but just think how much nonsense that firewall has kept off your PC.04:26
kitchelinux_user400354: make oldconfig should bring int he config that is in /proc if that's where ubuntu stores it04:26
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Cmwebkitche, try again please04:26
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FunnyLookinHat!grue | Cmweb04:26
ubotuCmweb: The grue is a sinister, lurking presence in the dark places of the earth. Its favorite diet is adventurers, but its insatiable appetite is tempered by its fear of light. No grue has ever been seen by the light of day, and few have survived its fearsome jaws to tell the tale. Also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grue_(monster)04:26
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GRUEfairly clever i guess04:28
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tsukoharuhow do i access my bios04:30
NoPulp:p04:30
tsukoharui try different f keys none work >.<04:30
NoPulpdelete somtimes04:30
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xlr8n4dPlease please please santa bring me a linux distro that I am smart enough to load and not have to keep pestering the forums and IRC chat about.04:30
NoPulpsanta uses OpenBSD04:30
vaporglowlol04:31
Ashton_KI want a shirt that says "Can't sleep, may be eaten by Grues"04:31
xlr8n4dtsukoharu, might have luck with esc or del keys.04:31
NoPulpi have many openBSD shirts04:31
omglolwhre should i put my wireless' firmware?04:31
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vaporglowmmmm zork04:32
Ashton_KTry /usr/src/modules?04:32
tsukoharunone work04:32
NoPulpwhat type of computer is it tsukohara ?04:32
tsukoharucan someone tell me which key to press for a thinkpad?04:32
Ashton_KDon't you hate forgetting the space before you put a directory location in IRC, and it simply says "No such command"04:32
tsukoharunone seem to work04:32
tsukoharuNoPulp: its a thinkpad77004:32
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NoPulp ThinkPad 770, 770E/ED. ... To enter the Easy-Setup BIOS utility, press and hold the F1 key, then turn on the computer04:34
IndyGunFreakWhats the name of that program for Kubuntu, that is like gdesklets for Ubuntu?04:34
IndyGunFreakits on the end of my tongue.04:34
Ashton_Ksuperkarumba04:34
IndyGunFreakthats it, thank you04:34
NoPulpyeah04:34
NoPulpkaramba04:34
Ashton_KOh yeah, what was the name of that yahoo-widget like program that's not stable yet, jackfield was it?04:34
tsukoharuNoPulp: i remember doing this before; there is no option for which order the cd etc boot up; its called "simple bios" for a reason04:35
neuratixhows the syntax for the "Contains the text:" field in the gnome search thingy ?04:35
IndyGunFreakok, one other stupid question,04:35
Ashton_Ktsukoharu, you might in trouble then.04:36
Ashton_K:P04:36
Ashton_KUhhh, remove HD, boot CD, put HD back in, mount, go?04:36
IndyGunFreakI have Ubuntu 6.10, with the Gnome and KDE and Xfce interface installed, all side by side.04:36
IndyGunFreakhow do i accessthe online wallpapers you have access to in KDE04:36
tsukoharuashton: cant i just format ubuntu04:36
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tsukoharuever since i installed ubuntu i had problems with video, sound, floppy etc04:37
Ashton_KWell, I know Ubuntu you can read/write NTFS.04:37
Ashton_KI dunno if formatting is a possibility.04:37
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tsukoharubull04:37
tsukoharu:_:04:37
tsukoharuthen how the heck am i gonna get my network card to work04:37
IndyGunFreakwhy would formatting not be a possibility?04:37
Ashton_KBecause he can't boot to a CD.04:37
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Ashton_KOh, I don't know if Ubuntu can format NTFS.04:38
IndyGunFreakuggly... thats why Linux should always have its own dedicated drive.04:38
tsukoharuidk my bro did everything for me04:38
tsukoharuhe lives in another state04:38
IndyGunFreakits nice to partition drives, etc, butif you can't live w/o windows, which when most of us are spreading our wings, we can't, its best to buy another hard drive for Linux04:38
omglolhow do i copy a directory? i did cp default default2 and i got "cp: omitting directory 'default'"04:39
tsukoharuits not that i dont like linux04:39
Cheste1hello, could anybody tell me how can i disable the maximizing and minimizing frame effects of nautilus windows in gnome04:39
tsukoharui dont like any os if i cant get on the dam internet04:39
Ashton_KIndy, or for those of us who game.04:39
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IndyGunFreakAshton_K: definitely04:39
IndyGunFreaktetris is the extent of my gaming...lol, and Ubuntu has like 3 different versions of that, so i'm happy..lol04:39
lupine_85omglol: cp -a04:40
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tsukoharuso am i screwed then04:40
omglolk04:40
Cheste1could anybody tell me how can i disable the maximizing and minimizing frame effects of nautilus windows in gnome04:41
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isaiChestel, I don't think you can...the only guy I knew who did it commented out the code and recompiled it (metacity).04:42
NoPulpthinkpad 770 should be able to boot from cd .... google says so so it must be true04:42
isaiChestel, admittedly that was a while back.04:42
graftargh... why do these madwifi drivers work so poorly? i'm always getting this 'NETDEV_UP ath0: link is not ready' error, and then i usually have to reboot04:42
graftanyone seen that before?04:42
Cheste1isai dude i did that before through gconf-editor04:42
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Cheste1but can't the setting right now04:43
Cheste1can't find*04:43
isaiChestel, yeah like I said it was awhile back... :)04:43
tsukoharuhmm04:43
toulousehey guys, how would i join this room throught gaim?04:43
toulouseim using xchat-gnome04:43
Cheste1any way you could help me find the setting in gconf-editor04:43
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cafuego_toulouse:  add channel04:43
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cafuego_toulouse: or add chat04:44
StrykerzIs the pool open or closed?04:44
isaiill see if I can find it, I dont like it either.04:44
toulouseokies04:44
cafuego_Strykerz: closed, it's far too cold04:44
Cheste1thank04:44
Cheste1you04:44
Strykerzdue to what?04:44
Strykerzstingrays or AIDS?04:44
toulousehey cafuego, do i go to join chat?04:44
cafuego_Strykerz: excessive trolls04:45
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kitchetoulouse: you just type in /join #ubuntu and you will join when you connect to freenode04:45
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toulouseerkkk im not too great at working gaim i'll give it a shot04:45
omglolwhere do i find my hotplug scripts?04:45
bruenigtoulouse, gaim is pretty hard...04:46
thoreauputictoulouse: xchat is much better for Irc anyway....04:46
toulouseok04:46
toulousegaim seems simple04:46
toulousebut i cant find where to type join04:46
thoreauputictoulouse: it's limited for irc04:46
NoPulpgaim is annoying for IRC04:46
toulouseok04:46
toulousei'll just use xchat04:46
toulousethanks04:46
toulousei gtg04:46
toulouseanyways04:46
thoreauputictoulouse: wise decision :)04:46
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ShadowpillarStrykerz: lol 7chan?04:48
Jimersonwow 800+ users..04:49
NoPulpim hungry :(04:49
JimersonIs there a mac specific channel?04:49
Shadowpillarpos network card died04:49
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tsukoharuNoPulp: it has a crappy thing called "easy setup"04:50
tsukoharui dont see anything for cd rom04:50
tsukoharulet alone for anything i need to change04:50
NoPulphow old is it ?04:50
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tsukoharu199804:50
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tsukoharubut the thing is it worked yesterday when i had windows04:50
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NoPulpdoie it have a floppy ?04:50
NoPulpdoes04:50
tsukoharuNoPulp: external04:51
tsukoharudoesnt work either04:51
JimersonAnyone familiar with wireless networking on a G5?04:51
tsukoharuare u telling me there is no internal command04:51
tsukoharuto format the hard drive ubuntu lies on04:51
lupine_85mkfs.<fs> /dev/<devicefile>04:51
StrykerzJimerson sur04:51
Strykerzsure04:51
Strykerz/rm -rf04:51
Strykerzdoes wonders04:52
Jimersonok04:52
JimersonThank you04:52
Ashton_KOf course, it'll also screw you over.04:52
Ashton_KBe careful.04:52
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dabaRJimerson: what card do you have?04:53
tsukoharuim screwed :P04:53
tsukoharuthere is 2 choices04:53
Ashton_KCommon feeling.04:53
JimersonAirport extreme04:53
tsukoharuto get windows so my network card works04:53
tsukoharuor somehow magically make my ethernet adapter work for ubuntu04:53
NoPulpwhy dosent the ethernet work ?04:54
tsukoharui cant install it04:54
tsukoharumy bro said there is no module for it in ubuntu04:54
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em1258hello ;)04:54
kitchetsukoharu: what chipset is on your ethernet or what card do you have04:54
dabaRJimerson: is it Broadcom BCM4311?04:54
em1258folks, what is the package to install all the X server stuff?04:54
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xdragonxcan someone help me with drivers for my 9550 ati card?04:55
tsukoharudynex dx-e201 network pc card04:55
kitcheem1258: xorg04:55
linux_user400354what is ipc namespaces?04:55
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cafuego_tsukoharu: what does 'lspci' say about the chipset?04:55
Jimersondabar: I'm unsure how to check that. Is there a terminal command from os x I can use to check that?04:55
tsukoharukitche dynex dx-e201 network pc card04:55
hope13what does df stand for?04:55
xdragonxplease?04:56
kitchehope13: disk free04:56
tsukoharucafuego let me see04:56
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dabaRem1258: I think x-window-system-core04:56
cafuego_linux_user400354: namepaces for IPC, so you can have separate IPC segments for various apps04:56
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odathi everyone04:56
xdragonxdoes 9550 use composite?04:56
hope13ooo thx04:56
odatis the 64bit version worth it?04:56
cafuego_odat: Not if you want flash and java in your web browser04:57
em1258dabar: that don't exist ;004:57
linux_user400354cafuego_ im lost04:57
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em1258kitche xorg doesnt exist either04:57
cafuego_linux_user400354: select the option in the kernel and press 'help'.04:57
dabaRx-window-system-core exists here. or just install ubuntu-desktop if you want gnome too04:57
sleepytomIs there a way to get an internet connection when running Windows via VMware?04:57
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odatso nothing is ready for 64 bit then04:57
xdragonxim using ubuntu 6.10 edgy, do i need "composite" "0" in my xorg.conf04:57
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odati thought everything was backward compatible04:57
dabaR!info x-window-system-core04:57
ubotux-window-system-core: transitional package for Debian etch. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu6.2 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 44 kB04:57
cafuego_odat: That seems a bit of a generalisation04:58
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xdragonxor "true" or "false" or "1"04:58
em1258dabar - thank u. i had mispelled it ;)04:58
tsukoharucafuego: pretty much i just bought this new card, i put it in ubuntu doesnt recognize it so it doesnt even turn on :P04:58
julian__has anyone here ever worked in gentoo04:58
em1258how come installing things like GNOME doesn't get xorg installed?04:58
odatcafuego, in other words 64 bit is just to much of a headache?04:58
em1258julian- yea04:58
dabaRJimerson: ask cafuego04:58
tsukoharucafuego its a pcmcia card04:58
cafuego_odat: it pretty much is, except neither java nor flash are open, so unless SUn and Adobe pull their fingers out...04:59
julian__do u think compiling the software is worth it for the speed increase04:59
jkellyhello everyone, im having trouble setting up the wireless device in ubuntu. im using an intel mac mini. the device doesnt seem to be recognised. i think it may be a hardware fault.04:59
cafuego_odat: Oh no, it works fine provided you use free software.04:59
xdragonx64bit only allows for accessing larger partitions and more memory, if you dont have that... dont bother (from what i hear)04:59
em1258julian- compiling the software is horrible04:59
julian__yea04:59
em1258it takes so long to try anything04:59
julian__i have tried it a few times04:59
em1258i JUST got rid of it04:59
odatok then thanks guys04:59
Jimersoncafuego_: hello, is there a way to check exactly which airport extreme card I am using in my G5?04:59
xdragonxnow about my problem? anyone?04:59
julian__i have everything working on my lappy with dapper05:00
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cafuego_Jimerson: Ondountedly a Broadcom 431805:00
em1258whats dapper05:00
julian__but i want to learn another distro05:00
julian__ubuntu 6.06 dapper drake05:00
em1258ah05:00
xdragonx<<<keeps getting Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".05:00
xdragonxdirect rendering: No05:00
xdragonx with glxinfo | grep rendering05:00
Jimersonok, thank you.05:00
Cmwebwhere is the iacd config file?05:00
em1258so Ubutnu from the CD doesnt install a desktop, right?05:00
tsukoharucafuego any ideas?05:00
cafuego_tsukoharu: not really, google perhaps.05:01
tsukoharucafuego tried...05:01
kitcheem1258: sure it does unless you use server install05:01
julian__does for me05:01
julian__gnome05:01
em1258it didnt for me!05:01
em1258wtf05:01
julian__which image did u use05:01
em1258i dunno ;) i got some CD05:01
tsukoharucan someone please help me install an ethernet card for my laptop... ubuntu doesnt recognize05:01
xdragonxwhat is the card tsuko?05:01
julian__do you know what version05:01
hope13is it broadcom? lol05:02
em1258julian - how do i tell05:02
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xdragonxouch broadcom... i had to use wrapper to get it working05:02
julian__well is it an official disk or did you burn it yourself05:02
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em1258i downloaded and burnt it some time ago05:02
em1258s05:03
hope13check your vendor website for your wireless card name? lol05:03
julian__hmm... so you installed, then when you booted you had no desktop?05:03
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tsukoharuxdragonx any ideas?05:03
em1258yeah correct05:03
hope13um when I type mount i get this : /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)05:03
julian__do you have an ati video card05:04
em1258me? no. savage05:04
hope13is this a bad thing? lol05:04
hope13i can't locate boot05:04
julian__what happened when you ran startx command05:04
omglolanyone have experience setting up acx100 based wireless card?05:04
xdragonxif its wireless and broadcom...gl05:04
thoreauputichope13: not in itself - but you should get a lot of other stuff as well05:04
tsukoharuxdragonx mines wired05:04
omglolanyone have experience setting up acx100 based wireless card? its a dlink dwl 520+05:04
em1258i dont have startx ;)05:05
hope13yeah i got lotsa other stuff just that i can't locate boot05:05
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thoreauputichope13: cd /boot05:05
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hope13oh thx05:05
pianoboy3333Can anyone here help me with something in inkscape?05:05
thoreauputichope13: it's probably on your / partition :)05:05
hope13henry thoreau?05:05
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thoreauputichope13: inspired by05:05
tsukoharuxdragonx i just dont know what to do to make ubuntu recognize it05:05
hope13nice05:05
xdragonxhmm good question, i know i barely got mine working and i messed with it for a week first05:05
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hope13thx again05:06
thoreauputicnp :)05:06
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xdragonxi heard their wireless you have to run a program to pull code out of their windows drivers even so its not alot of support i think05:06
tsukoharuxdragonx ??05:06
julian__i dont know what the prob is05:06
em1258is it normal for ubuntu that i can't SU but I can sudo?05:06
thoreauputicem1258: yes05:06
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em1258why05:06
thoreauputic!root > em125805:07
em1258can that be changed?05:07
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xdragonxone thing to try is google the card ..i got most of my info from that05:07
tsukoharuxdragonx What about wired ethernet cards?? how do i make it work with ubuntu :(05:07
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thoreauputicem1258: check the pm ubotu sent you05:07
em1258thanks05:07
Acidictadpoledoes anyone know a good theme package from apt?05:07
em1258I will check it once I have a normal browser05:07
thoreauputicAcidictadpole: theme for what ?05:07
xdragonx<<<put in x1300 card no glitches..but cant get this 9550 to work for anything05:07
isaihmm, I can't seem to find out how to get rid of gnome minimize animation...05:07
khaije1i need a simple gui fw apps that will allow me to control incoming and outgoing connections on Edgy... any reccomendations?05:08
Acidictadpolethoreauputic: ubuntu. Just some additions for System -> Pref.. -> Theme05:08
tsukoharuxdragon05:08
khaije1I'm using firestarter now, but it doesn't manage outgoing :-(05:08
tsukoharuwhat do i do05:08
thoreauputic!gnome-art | Acidictadpole05:08
ubotugnome-art: install GNOME themes from art.gnome.org. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2-3 (edgy), package size 26 kB, installed size 200 kB05:08
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foglightem1258: you have to set a password for root to use `su`05:08
thoreauputicAcidictadpole: or just look on the URL in that factoid05:08
em1258fog- thanks05:08
tsukoharugahhh, can anyone tell me how to install my ethernet card, ive been trying for hours noone is talking to me :(05:08
thoreauputicfoglight: no, you can use su to switch users too05:09
Acidictadpolethoreauputic: so look at the link rather than apt-get install gnome-art05:09
em1258fog: NICE. works like a charm ;)05:09
foglightthoreauputic: ^^05:09
IndyGunFreaktsukoharu, wht type of card is a good start05:09
xdragonxtsuko...goto the private message i sent you05:09
thoreauputicfoglight: e,g.  su alterego or whatever05:09
neuratix(tsukoharu: most likely it just works)05:09
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em1258if I remove a package in apt, does it remove everything which depends on it?05:10
pianoboy3333Can anyone here help me with something in inkscape? I'm having a problem ungrouping and regrouping the group in http://piano.juicemedia.tv/junk/windowicontext.svg05:10
tsukoharuxdragon i never got a private message05:10
neuratixem1258: i don't think so05:10
tsukoharusays i need to be registered05:10
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thoreauputicfoglight: I didn't say you didn't need to set a password for root - I said su can be used for other purposes :)05:10
xdragonxhmm thats odd try sending one to me05:10
em1258neuratix: is there a way to achieve that?05:10
foglightthoreauputic: ya sudo can do the same thing05:10
pianoboy3333sorry, that's http://piano.juicemedia.tv/junk/windowbuttontext.svg05:10
tsukoharuxdragon get it?05:10
thoreauputicfoglight: sudo -u  yes05:10
neuratixyeah, but i cant remember it :) someone else here knows it i'm sure05:11
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tsukoharudid u get it dragon?05:11
xdragonxno i didnt  :/05:11
neuratixem1258: oh05:11
thoreauputicem1258: install stuff with aptitude - it removes deps on uninstall05:11
tsukoharusays i need 2 register05:11
neuratixem1258: sory, i misread05:11
em1258thorea: nice05:12
tsukoharuwhatg did u say in the private chat05:12
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thoreauputicem1258: edgy has the --autoremove switch to apt-get IIRC05:12
xdragonxmainly was just trying to explain to try to use a wrapper on it05:12
xdragonxthat is your best bet for unsupported hardware05:12
thoreauputicem1258: aptitude is a good habit though IMO05:12
tsukoharuhow do i do that?05:13
xdragonxnow if i can figure out why i can get my ati x1300 to work but not this 9550 ill be set..and windows will be complete history05:13
foglightwill synaptic remove deps too?05:13
pianoboy3333Can anyone here help me with something in inkscape? I'm having a problem ungrouping and regrouping the group in http://piano.juicemedia.tv/junk/windowbuttontext.svg05:13
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xdragonxthoreau??? are you good with vid cards?05:14
foglightaptitude is annoying05:14
foglightapt-get++05:14
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_fnordi know theres a better place but i just installed beryl,and its not working,could i show someones something in #flood?05:15
jkellycan anyone help me get wireless to work with an intel mac mini?05:15
kyncanifoglight: debfoster will work well with synaptic05:16
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_fnordjkelly: find out your wifi cards make/model05:16
_fnordi would ask in ubuntu-xgl but it dead05:16
tsukoharuxdragon what do u mean by using a wrapper??05:17
tsukoharusee im not that great with linux...05:17
Cmwebkitche, sorry about that i figured out what i did and i got it to restart right05:17
hope13a wrapper is something that wrap around something lol05:17
foglightkyncani: thanks05:17
_fnorda wrapper goes around a driver for another os then trys to make it work,if im corect05:17
hope13since the driver is not open source people reverse engineer it no05:17
jkelly_fnord: could this be it? 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. Unknown device 001c05:18
foglighttsukoharu: i think they are referring to ndiswrapper05:18
tsukoharufnord, mind giving me a tutorial?05:18
_fnordyup know you should google that + linux05:18
hope13oh yeah google ndiswrapper05:18
tsukoharuor something05:18
hope13there are lotsa tutorial how to blacklist broadcom05:19
_fnordand try to find out if other people have had the smae problem and how they fixed it05:19
foglighttsukoharu: apt-get install ndisgtk05:19
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kyncanifoglight: np :)05:19
tsukoharui cant!05:19
_fnordwifi cards have been anoying me for a while05:19
tsukoharui dont have an ethernet card installed05:19
hope13oh05:19
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tsukoharuthats what im trying to install05:19
hope13ok i'll google it05:19
hope13wait05:19
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hope13how are you online?05:20
hope13>,>05:20
em1258I am not that excited about this ubuntu/ what else is a good distro? ;)05:20
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tsukoharuim using my other computer05:20
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foglightem1258: kubuntu?05:20
em1258fog: wats the difference?05:20
_fnordjkelly: type in iwconfig and post the results in #flood05:20
em1258kde-centric?05:20
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foglightya05:21
NoPulpem1258 :  ubuntu grows on you   give it a chance ...05:21
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em1258NoPulp - i am dissapointed. something is f-ed up w. aptget05:21
NoPulpwhat is ?05:21
Ashton_KHonestly, what the heck is going on?!?05:21
ubuntuem1258: kubuntu is good05:21
Ashton_KThis wireless card, is driving me nuts.05:21
jkelly_fnord: its ok, i think it works now. ill be back in a while to tell you if its working or not.05:21
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_fnordin beryl what does this mean?: root@fluxbuntu:/home/fnord# iwXGL Absent, checking for NVIDIA05:21
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PORDOwhen I run Ekiga or Gizmo, the audio sputters..it sounds awful.  but if i run twinkle or linphone, it's fine.  anyone know what the problem could be?05:21
_fnordif you just typed in that comand it wouldent of changed anyhting05:22
Ashton_KFirst it didn't work in 6.10. Then after a fresh install it worked. My dad ran the updates, it quit working. He used the 6.06 live disc it worked, we installed and it doesn't.05:22
Ashton_KWhat the heck is going on here?!?05:22
apocryphalwhat chipset?05:22
Ashton_KAtheros.05:22
apocryphaloh05:22
hope13for broadcom wireless: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=462995&highlight=broadcom05:22
apocryphali had to fight to get my bcm4xx to work05:22
hope13it also show how to use ndiswrapper05:22
PORDOanyone know how to add dmix support to my /etc/asound.conf file?05:22
tsukoharuyou know i am so lost...people are talking about wrappers to help me get my ethernet card online, i cant get ndiswrapper cause i donjt have ndiswrapper to begin with; either way im messed05:22
Ashton_KWill I have to bite the bullet and ndiswrap it?05:23
Ashton_KI mean, it SHOULD be supported by default.05:23
joejaxx_fnord: i hope you are not running as root05:23
Ashton_KUbuntu claims it is.05:23
apocryphali dunno05:23
tsukoharui have a wired ethernet card...05:23
whyameyeAshton_K: this isn't a Mac, is it?05:23
_fnordyup ill try againe lol05:23
Ashton_KNo.05:23
Ashton_Ki38605:23
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kyncanitsukoharu: edgy would not detect my ethernet card here either, but feisty has05:24
kohr_how do i mount a usb device?05:24
joejaxxkohr_: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/usbdisk05:24
kohr_oh05:24
kohr_cool t05:24
kohr_thanks05:24
joejaxxkohr_: if /media/usbdisk does not exist then sudo mkdir -p /media/usbdisk then do the mount commandline05:24
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joejaxxkohr_: you are most welcome05:25
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tsukoharukynanci edgy?05:25
julian__any good games to dl05:25
hope13for linux?05:25
julian__yea05:25
tsukoharukynan, whats edgy :P05:25
kyncani!tell tsukoharu about edgy05:25
hope13lol05:25
etunbemerry christmas again05:25
hope13maybe if you have crossover05:25
tsukoharugr05:25
tsukoharui cant update05:25
Ashton_K!tsukoharu edgy05:25
hope13you can play steam or wow05:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tsukoharu edgy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:25
tsukoharui dont have internet05:25
Ashton_K!tsukoharu | edgy05:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tsukoharu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:25
kyncanitsukoharu: edgy is ubuntu 6.1005:26
tsukoharumy laptop isnt recognizing my cd player even05:26
Ashton_K!edgy | tsukoharu05:26
ubotutsukoharu: Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes05:26
Ashton_KThere we go.05:26
etunbetsukoharu: no internet at all?05:26
julian__whats the best game in the repos05:26
kohr_special device /dev/sd1 does not exist05:26
tsukoharuwhy do u think i need to install the ethernet card05:26
hope13how come you can talk on irc?05:26
tsukoharuits either thator i switch back to windows05:26
apocryphalbzflag is okay05:26
Ashton_Kkohr, check through your /dev folder and find it.05:26
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tsukoharuim on my friends pc05:26
apocryphali think that's in the stock repos05:26
NoPulpplug it in tsukoharu .. your laptop is really old   :(05:26
julian__rpg?05:26
apocryphaltank game05:26
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joejaxxkohr_: /dev/sda105:26
ubuntu!feisty05:26
ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+105:26
tsukoharunopulp i need that laptop;05:26
joejaxxkohr_: you forgot the "a"05:26
etunbeis there a flight simulator on linux?05:27
alsgreat nn is on :D05:27
julian__il check it out05:27
tsukoharuthere HAS to be  a way to install windows back then!05:27
kohr_joejaxx, no i didn't, there is no sda05:27
hope13get a window cd05:27
apocryphaltsuko, why don't you download ndiswrapper and the driver and port it over to your laptop with a usb drive or something?05:27
apocryphaland install it manually?05:27
joejaxxkohr_: 20:26 < kohr_> special device /dev/sd1 does not exist05:28
tsukoharui HAVE a windows cd!!  it wont boot05:28
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kohr_joejaxx there is snd, shm, ttyb, ptyqc05:28
hope13lol05:28
kohr_yeah, i typed that, not copied that05:28
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tsukoharubecause ubuntu wont let it05:28
joejaxxkohr_: ah ok05:28
apocryphalwon't let it?05:28
tsukoharuidk05:28
joejaxxkohr_: there is not a sda?05:28
tsukoharuit just goes directly to the ubuntu load05:28
joejaxxkohr_: :\05:28
tsukoharuit skips over the cd05:28
kohr_none05:28
ubuntu!breezy05:28
ubotubreezy was the third release of Ubuntu. Version 5.10, codename "Breezy Badger"05:28
apocryphalthat's probably a bios issue05:28
apocryphalor your windows disk isn't bootable05:29
PORDOwhat is this all about? The following packages have unmet dependencies:05:29
PORDO  farsight0.1-plugins-rtp: Depends: gstreamer0.10-plugins-good (= 0.10.3-0ubuntu4) but 0.10.4-0ubuntu3 is to be installed05:29
kohr_i have multiple usb drives, 3 i think05:29
tsukoharubios05:29
xlr8n4dhey apocryphal, I think I have the the ndiswrapper and the native driver for mine that us made for Windows XP, how do I make it work if you will tell me before I have to get a Ubuntu For Dummies book in my stalking?05:29
tsukoharubecause it boots on this pc05:29
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apocryphalwell, every driver is a little different; i would probably read the documentation with it rather than a general guide05:29
tsukoharugr, can someone do an apt-cache search on dynex05:30
apocryphaltsukoharu: you can switch the boot order in the bios pretty simply05:30
tsukoharusee if they come up with anything05:30
tsukoharuapo, with my laptop ohohoho no u cant05:30
tsukoharuthe bios is a piece of shit05:30
apocryphalno?  o_o05:30
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joejaxx!tell tsukoharu about language05:30
tsukoharutis called "easy boot"05:30
apocryphalwell, there might be a separate startup key you have to hit or something to bring up the boot menu05:30
xlr8n4dMust be an Averatec huh, I got one of those.05:30
apocryphalinstead of going into the bios05:30
_fnordjoejaxx: i exited root yet im still haveing probs05:31
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tsukoharuapo, thats where im stuck05:31
tsukoharui cant find out how05:31
joejaxx_fnord: well since you are on fluxbuntu you are on dapper right?05:31
apocryphalhmm, what kind of bios is it?05:31
_fnordjoejaxx:  XGL Absent, checking for NVIDIA05:31
_fnordits not really flux05:31
_fnordyet05:31
apocryphal(wine is taking about 30min to compile so far... sigh)05:31
_fnord6.0605:31
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SenesenceAnyone know anything about 3COM hubs?05:31
tsukoharuu mean my laptop model? idk what kind of bios it is05:31
_fnordignore the flux lol05:31
apocryphalsure, how about the laptop model05:31
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tsukoharuthinkpad 77005:31
apocryphalmmk05:31
_fnordjoejaxx:05:32
_fnordNvidia Absent, checking for texture_from_pixmap05:32
_fnordtexture_from_pixmap Present05:32
_fnordberyl: No composite extension05:32
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joejaxx_fnord: do you have Option "Composite" "Enable"05:32
joejaxx_fnord: under the extension section in your xorg.conf?05:32
_fnordbrb ill change it05:33
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foglighttsukoharu: ESC is often the boot menu key05:33
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kohr_so, how do i mount it then?05:34
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kohr_if there is no sda05:34
tsukoharufog no it isnt f1 is -.-05:35
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foglighttsukoharu: so you can boot the cd now?05:36
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pc22can anyone recommend a distance learning org?05:36
hope13if 6.10 mess up my internet how do i revert back to 5.10?05:36
Ashton_K!WG311T05:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about WG311T - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:36
tsukoharufoglight no i cant05:36
tsukoharui cant boot the cd05:37
tsukoharuim trying to mess around in bios there is just no option for the cd rom drive05:37
tsukoharuits "easy" setup05:37
foglightyou can erase the partition if you want05:37
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kohr_so how do i mount the USB ?05:38
tsukoharuhow?05:38
tsukoharuthats what im tryin to do05:38
foglighttype mount, get the name of the hard drive device05:38
foglightie. /dev/hda105:38
kohr_how do i know what the name s05:38
joejaxxkohr_: what other "something"da files are there in /dev?05:38
foglightthen type, dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda105:38
foglightthat will erase the hard drive05:38
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joejaxxfoglight: stop05:38
joejaxxfoglight: that is not funny05:38
tsukoharuhow do i know the name?05:38
omglolhelp my wireless eth1 doesnt appear in the network properties icon in the icon tray05:39
omglolits not in the pulldown menu05:39
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tsukoharuo ok i got it05:39
omgloli only see eth105:39
omgloli only see eth005:39
kohr_joejaxx, hda 0-4, ptyda ttyda05:39
foglighttsukoharu: it only needs to run for a few econds05:39
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foglighttry rebooting now05:39
tsukoharujoe, what does that do05:40
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joejaxxtsukoharu: writes zeros to the drive05:40
pc22 can anyone recommend a distance learning org?05:40
hope13can i revert to an older ubuntu using the iso?05:40
tsukoharuis that bad05:40
joejaxxtsukoharu: that is something you do not tell new users to do05:40
tsukoharufog u ass -_-05:40
tsukoharusry for language05:40
joejaxxtsukoharu: it wipes the entire drive05:40
wweaselGuys, what the most widely used app for burning CDs and DVDs in Gnome (I know there's built in, I want more full featured) (I'm burning data discs in particular, but chances are it'll be multipurpose, no?)05:41
tsukoharujoe, is there any way to erase my partition completely05:41
ivannetoHow can I know a file's encoding? If tried 'file filename', but it only reported me 'awk script text'.05:41
tsukoharui need to totally get rid of ubuntu from my drive05:41
kyncanihope13: no, but you can install a separate edgy and see what happens05:41
omglolhelp my wireless eth1 doesnt appear in the network properties icon in the icon tray! its not in the pulldown menu! used to be in there05:41
foglighttsukoharu: you can run fdisk if you want and remove the partition05:41
joejaxxtsukoharu: you want to format it?05:41
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kohr_wweasel, i used graveman and it worked fine, great for iso's05:42
tsukoharuyes05:42
kohr_but i am not that qualified05:42
joejaxxkohr_: normally the usbdisks come up as a sda drive05:42
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tsukoharui can work with it better from there05:42
tsukoharui hate ubuntu05:42
tsukoharu>.<05:42
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kohr_joejaxx, is that only when something is plugged in?05:42
joejaxxkohr_: yes05:42
bmk789tsukoharu: tux is your friend, have some patience as he doesnt copperate all teh time05:43
joejaxxkohr_: you have to have the drive plugged in05:43
omglolhelp my wireless eth1 doesnt appear in the network properties icon in the icon tray! its not in the pulldown menu! used to be in there05:43
foglighttsukoharu: did you try fdisk?05:43
joejaxxtsukoharu: what is not working on ubuntu?05:43
kohr_joejaxx, its not a storage device, its a cheap chinese digital camera05:43
joejaxxkohr_: oh05:43
ubuntuHi, i had Fedora installed on a partion, then i removed it, but when i boot up it says "loading grub2" then loads grub 0.97 and i dont know how to start, it jsut says press tab for a list of options but then none of them work05:43
bmk789omglol: does it show up in iwconfig?05:43
tsukoharumy freaking ethernet card05:43
leprasmurfdamn, this is killing me...ok, I've got a wireless nic, /proc/bus/usb/devices sees it and id's it correctly, but says it doesn't have a driver.  I've installed the driver module (rt2570) which is loaded....what am I missing?05:43
omglolbmk789: yes it does05:43
tsukoharuidk how to get it to work and its useless if i dont have internet05:43
bmk789omglol: what menu are you talking about?05:44
joejaxxkohr_: if it is usb when you plug ubuntu should recognize it and ask you if you want to import the pictures05:44
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joejaxxtsukoharu: what do you mean get it to work?05:44
foglightjoejaxx: whats wrong with dd if=/dev/zero exactly?05:44
ubuntu!grub05:44
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto05:44
joejaxxfoglight: it is not something to tell new users05:45
tsukoharujoe my ethernet card isnt recognized by ubuntu; i dont have internet therefor i cant get a module for it05:45
omglolbmk789: i tihnk its the network monitor. it has a icon in the taskbar. when i dblclick on the icon i get a window that shows me all my connections like lo and eth005:45
foglightjoejaxx: why?05:45
tsukoharui need to find a way to get it to work05:45
whyameyehow can I get a list of sound cards on my machine for a bash script? I tried asoundconf and the names aren't what qjackctl is showing...05:45
bmk789omglol: can you type in eth1 manually?05:45
hope13is the 6.10 LTS iso bootable? like a live disc?05:45
joejaxxfoglight: you should alright know05:45
omglolbmk789: yes i can05:45
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joejaxxfoglight: already*05:45
hope13i want to see if 6.10 is compatible with my ethernet card05:45
bmk789omglol: try it?05:45
kohr_joejaxx it is a really cheap that i got from an silent auction, it has window drivers and thats it, but they didn;t work with wine, so i was hopping i could access teh files directly05:45
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joejaxxkohr_: ubuntu does not recognize it?05:46
omglolbmk789: yes and i got to the page for wireless05:46
kohr_i guess not05:46
tsukoharuubuntu doesnt recognize my ethernet card05:46
omglolbmk789: but why did eth1 disappear from the pulldown menu suddenly05:46
tsukoharuso i dont know how to get it to work05:46
joejaxxkohr_: ie you do not get an import picture dialog?05:46
kohr_let me try another usb drive05:46
joejaxxkohr_: :\05:46
joejaxxkohr_: ok05:46
wweaselGuys, what the most widely used app for burning CDs and DVDs in Gnome? (I know there's built in, I want more full featured)05:46
tsukoharuany ideas joe?05:46
tsukoharuisnt there a generic module i can use to install my ethernet card05:47
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omglolbmk789: i installed network-manager and when i click on its icon, i only get the option to connect to wired network. it used to show wireless networks as well05:47
kohr_no dialog05:47
Siph0nhey :)05:47
kyncanihope13: 6.10 is a live and install disc05:47
joejaxxwweasel: k3b or gnomebaker05:47
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hope13yes! thx you05:47
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joejaxxtsukoharu: i am really surprised that it does not come up05:47
wweaseljoejaxx: gnomebaker! that's what i was trying to think of, but couldn't recall the name :) thanks a bunch05:47
levanderIs there a standard place to put wallpaper images I've downloaded?05:47
joejaxxtsukoharu: normally it is the wireless05:47
Siph0nlol omglol, i just came in the chatroom right now, but i have the same thing happen to me :)05:47
tsukoharujoe mine isnt wireles05:48
pc22 can anyone recommend a distance learning org?05:48
tsukoharuim on a wired network05:48
levanderpc22: lpi is a big one05:48
tsukoharui dont know how to install a wired card05:48
joejaxxtsukoharu: i know i was just saying it was weird that it did not pick up the ethernet05:48
levanderpc22: it's for linux training05:48
joejaxxwweasel: you are most welcome05:48
pc22lpi? is it legal and accredited?05:48
omglolSiph0n: damn that sucks05:48
omglolSiph0n: are u using it on a laptop05:49
kohr_joejaxx, it does not give me a dialog05:49
levanderpc22: what do you mean legal and accredited?  you want a college?05:49
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joejaxxtsukoharu: so eth0 does not come up when you type: ifconfig?05:49
Siph0nomglol: yea.... the wireless connection works too05:49
foglighttsukoharu: what does it say your ethernet card is? type `lspci` and look for an Ethernet Controller05:49
leprasmurfI've got a wireless nic, /proc/bus/usb/devices sees it and id's it correctly, but says it doesn't have a driver.  I've installed the driver module (rt2570) which is loaded....what am I missing?05:49
variantgiven 11,375 euros what laptop would you buy ?05:49
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levanderpc22: lpi is just for linux certifications and the like05:49
omglolSiph0n: ipw3975?05:49
tsukoharujoe 1 sec05:49
Siph0nbut the icon doesn show any wireless wetworks05:49
pc22yeah more of a college05:49
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omglolSiph0n: did u instal network-manager and wifi-radar?05:49
Siph0nomglol: whats ipw3975? one sec, ill get my laptop from downstairs05:49
joejaxxkohr_: :(05:49
pc22but i will try lpi too05:49
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Siph0nno wifi radar05:49
levanderpc22: well, there's phoenix, but you may want to look locally for a college that offers online classes05:49
Siph0nbrb05:49
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omglolSiph0n: intel wireless 3975abg i tihnk thats the number05:50
pc22phoenix is expensive and they say its a bogus05:50
omglolSiph0n: came with my core205:50
_fnordim trying to install compiz and i get this from synaptic:libgnome-compiz-manager-dev:05:50
_fnord Depends: compiz-freedesktop but it is not going05:50
_fnordto be installed05:50
_fnord Depends: compiz-freedesktop-gnome but it is not going to be installed05:50
omglolSiph0n: i dun wanna reinstall :( took a long time to setup beryl and stuff05:50
CheyenneDWhat do you people recamend for a vnc server?05:51
omglolanyone have successfully installed a acx100 based wireless card???? i cant get it to work!!! its a dlink dwl 520+05:51
omglollinux sucks lol05:51
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_fnordblashphamy!!!!!!05:52
thoreauputicheresy!!! Burn him!!05:52
CheyenneDI forgot marshmellows.05:52
hope13i guess it suck for people that aren't technical on computer05:52
Siph0nlol i dont wanna reinstall either lol05:52
omglol:(05:52
CheyenneDWhat do you people recamend for a vnc server?05:53
_fnordto the city gates!!!citizens of linus torvaldopia,theres going to be a stoneing!!!05:53
tsukoharujoe05:53
levanderWhere is the my GNOME Trash directory on the filesystem?05:53
tsukoharueth0 comes up05:53
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joejaxxCheyenneD: there is already one called vino installed05:53
thoreauputicCheyenneD: it's built in - vino05:53
leprasmurfno, linux sux for wireless and usb:-P05:53
bizinichi`hi05:53
raxipyo05:53
joejaxxCheyenneD: you can also use tightvnc05:53
foglighttsukoharu: then it is working05:53
_fnordwhere do i go for compiz suport?05:53
joejaxxtsukoharu: then your ethernet is recognized :)05:53
tsukoharubut it isnt05:53
levandernm, it's in ~/.trash05:53
thoreauputicCheyenneD: but freenx is way better for remote stuff05:53
tsukoharubut it wont work05:53
raxiptell me05:53
bizinichi`I'll think about it05:53
omgloli cant seem to get anything related to wireless right on linux05:53
foglighttsukoharu: but it will05:53
tsukoharuthe lights on my card wont show up05:53
leprasmurfomglol: you and me both05:53
kohr_me neither05:53
omglol:(05:53
wweaselomglol: wireless can be a pain, but don't give up!05:53
kohr_the lights are broken too05:54
foglighttsukoharu: is the cable good?05:54
tsukoharuyes...05:54
joejaxxtsukoharu: if your network supports dhcp05:54
tsukoharuyes it does05:54
joejaxxtsukoharu: do : sudo dhclient eth005:54
tsukoharui got 3 computers wired through out the house05:54
Siph0nok, im using Network Manager Applet 0.6.205:54
_fnordmy neihbors suports dhcp05:54
_fnord:)05:54
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joejaxx_fnord: lol05:54
kohr_lol05:54
wweaselomglol: Setting up your wireless is probably the single hardest thing you'll have to do in getting your new ubuntu install up and running.05:54
bmk789true05:55
tsukoharuunknown hardware address type 77605:55
Siph0nand when i click it i only see "Enable Networking", but no "Enable Wireless".... and it use to be there :)05:55
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omgloldoes anyone know why network-manager allows me to connect to wireless network yesterday but not todayu?05:55
omglolyea same as me05:55
omgloli dun wanna reinstall lopl05:55
Siph0nlol, omglol: u are online with it tho, right?05:55
_fnordjoejaxx: i couldent find that thing in the extensions of xorg.conf05:55
omglolim using wired05:55
foglighttsukoharu: lovely, nevermind its broken :)05:55
Siph0noh05:55
wweaselomglol: what are you using for drivers? ndis?05:55
thoreauputicomglol: network manager takes a holiday this time of year ;p05:55
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omglollol05:55
omglolit worked striaght out of the box05:55
Siph0nthats whats funny with mine, im online wirelessly with it, but it still says No Network Connections05:56
omgloli installed edgy and it works05:56
xdragonxanyone tell me how to make it stop using mesa for opengl rendering?05:56
tsukoharuunknown hardware address type 776 joe -_-05:56
omglolipw3945 from centrino core205:56
wweaselomglol: lol, you're a lucky one :P05:56
xdragonx(using ati 9550 drivers)05:56
joejaxx_fnord: there is not a section called extensions?05:56
_fnordill look again05:56
omglolnot so luicky now (05:56
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wweaselhmmm...05:56
omglolwill reinstall work?05:56
Siph0nim using dapper :)05:56
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kyncanixdragonx: i think there's a wki for that05:57
wweaselomglol: yeah, but that would be extreme. i'm sure we can fix it some other way05:57
tsukoharuit recognizes the card but it doesnt05:57
xdragonxi followed it to a T05:57
xdragonx:/05:57
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xdragonxi got my x1300 working but not it05:57
tsukoharubecause i do sudo command on it and it says unkown hardware adress05:57
joejaxx_fnord: if not you want to add this at the bottom http://fluxbuntu.org//view.php?id=36505:57
wweaselomglol: try opening a terminal and typing in 'iwconfig'05:57
_fnordthere wasent05:57
foglighttsukoharu: try sudo ifconfig eth0 up05:57
hope13is AIGLX better than XGL for... intel integrate graphic card?05:57
xdragonxhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI is what i used05:57
omglolwweasel: eth1 has some stuff that probably says its working05:57
joejaxx_fnord: add this to the bottom05:57
juanchito2006Merry Christmas from GMT -5 Zone in Colombia!05:57
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joejaxx_fnord: http://fluxbuntu.org//view.php?id=36505:58
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foglighttsukoharu: then run the dhclient command05:58
spasticteapotHello?05:58
omglolwweasel: i think its working.. i use kismet and i can see several ap05:58
wweaselomglol: so it's just network-manager not detecting it?05:58
omglolits just network manager and network monitor not showing my eth105:58
omglolyea05:58
kyncanixdragonx: well, i'm sorry then (nvidia here)05:58
spasticteapotHello, everyone!05:58
_fnordjoejaxx: im not running flux05:58
wweaselomglol: ok, i think i know why.05:58
tsukoharufog that is the command i entered05:58
AcidictadpoleMerry Xmas EST05:58
omglolyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy05:58
tsukoharusays a whole bunck of unknowns05:58
tsukoharubunch05:58
omglolhehe05:58
foglight`sudo ifconfig eth0 up` ?05:58
_fnordjoejaxx: nm05:58
wweaselomglol: sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces05:58
tsukoharuunknown hardware address -_-05:58
spasticteapotAs long as we're discussing GUIs, anyone mind helping me with XFCE?05:58
joejaxx_fnord: that is a pastebin lol05:58
joejaxx_fnord: :)05:58
spasticteapotI just installed it, and...WOOT! T3h AW3som3!05:59
CheyenneDI'm new to the command line, How do i edit a like using sudo05:59
omglolwweasel: ok im in.. i dun see my eth105:59
tsukoharuError while getting flags: unkown device05:59
kohr_christmas in 1 minute!05:59
wweaselCheyenneD: probably easiest using nano as a command line editor. Or using gedit to launch a gui05:59
omgloloo i see it05:59
omgloliface eth1 inet dhcp05:59
joejaxxkohr_: yeap :)05:59
omglolwireless-essid test05:59
omglolwireless-key asd05:59
omglolauto eth105:59
tsukoharuError while getting flags: unkown device05:59
juanchito2006I'm having trouble with my ATi Radeon Xpress 200 Graphics, can't accelerate it...05:59
wweaselspasticteapot: probably better to go to #xubuntu05:59
joejaxx_fnord: also are you using xgl or aiglx?05:59
spasticteapotHowever, I'm missing my taskbar - anyone know how to get the taskbar in XFCE?05:59
spasticteapotjoin #xubuntu05:59
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omglolhmm in it wat shd i do05:59
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_fnordaiglx i think,im new06:00
kohr_1006:00
kohr_506:00
unix_infidelanyone here have a Dell Latitude D420 working in linux?06:00
Ashton_KMerry Christmas!06:00
kohr_306:00
kohr_206:00
kohr_106:00
wweaselomglol: Don't paste in here, it bothers some people.06:00
omglolok06:00
wweaselYay!06:00
kohr_CHRISTMAS!06:00
spasticteapotBah...no work.06:00
xdragonxi havea  dell 1505 working on ubuntu06:00
joejaxx_fnord: you want to look at this http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install/Ubuntu/Dapper/AiGLX06:00
xdragonx(fully)06:00
xdragonxnow my desktops giving issues06:00
spasticteapotIs the command /join #xubuntu to join "xubuntu"?06:00
joejaxxspasticteapot: yes there is06:00
foglighttsukoharu: when you type ifconfig -a what are the devices listed on the left column06:01
tsukoharuso fog any ideas?06:01
omglolwweasel: im in it.. wat shd i do next?06:01
juanchito2006Jingle Bells, Jinglle Bells06:01
joejaxx_fnord: that link gives you the steps to enable aiglx on dapper06:01
wweaselomglol: Ok, so what we're going to do is comment out hte lines that relate to eth106:01
joejaxxjuanchito2006: LOL06:01
omglolwweasel: # or ;06:01
tsukoharulo and sit006:01
wweaselomglol: # and actually, you can comment out everything but the "lo" section06:01
foglighti thought you saw an eth006:01
xdragonxis it seeing your hardware now tsuko?06:01
xdragonx(sorry was gone working on video)06:02
foglighttsukoharu: type lspci and look for ethernet controller06:02
tsukoharuand etho06:02
omglolwweasel: im using my wired eth0.. will i get disconnected if  comment out eth006:02
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foglighttsukoharu: is there an eth0 or not?06:02
_fnordjoejaxx: now what?06:02
tsukoharui see it06:02
tsukoharubut thats not the model of my ethernet card06:02
tsukoharuthats my old one that worked06:02
wweaselomglol, perhaps. See, network-manager needs these thigns commented out in order to manage them.06:02
spasticteapotxubuntu is annoyingly empty, so I'll have to annoy you instead.06:02
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spasticteapotI just installed XFCE, and have no taskbar.06:03
joejaxx_fnord: did you follow the steps on that link?06:03
tsukoharusays ethernet controller: d-link system06:03
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spasticteapothttp://www.xfce.org/index.php?page=screenshots&lang=en06:03
omglolwweasel: ok commented out06:03
foglighttsukoharu: you replaced the ethernet card?06:03
tsukoharuthen the model type of my old ethernet card06:03
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spasticteapotNote the taskbar/wharf bar/whatever.06:03
tsukoharufog yes i did06:03
tsukoharuother one was held with ducktape06:03
juanchito2006Radeon Xpress 200 driver installin problem...06:03
spasticteapotHot glue > Duct Tape.06:03
tsukoharufinally snapped in two06:03
wweaselomglol: save that file, and you might need to close and reopen network-manager in order to get it to recognize the hardware...i'm not sure06:03
_fnordnope didint see it thanks off to read06:03
joejaxx_fnord: you are most welcome06:03
foglighti see, and you cant reinstall ubuntu because you cant boot from cd?06:03
spasticteapotTrust me on this one - a fillet around the connector will hold it in very securely, and function as shock-mounting.06:04
joejaxx_fnord: that guide should definitely get it up and running06:04
tsukoharuwell i can access a cd from ubuntu06:04
tsukoharui just cant06:04
tsukoharuget it to boot06:04
omglolwweasel: how to i close network-manager06:04
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spasticteapotIf anyone here knows XFCE even a little, please join #xubuntu and help me. out.06:04
wweaselomglol: before you do that...is it working right now?06:04
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omglolwweasel: its currently running.. i see the icon06:04
juanchito2006!ATi06:04
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:04
wweaselomglol: does it detect your wireless hardware?06:05
omglolwweasel: when i rightclick i only see wired.. i dun see wireless networks.. i used to see wireless networks yesterday06:05
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omgloli meant left click06:05
xdragonxanyone care to help advance troubleshoot an ati card?06:06
wweaselomglol: alright, try going to System > Administration > System Monitor06:06
omglolnm-applet?06:06
tsukoharuu know what my sollution is06:06
tsukoharuerase everything06:06
wweaselomglol: yep06:06
tsukoharuand install windows06:06
tsukoharuso how do i erase everything06:06
tsukoharudo a complete format of my whole laptop06:06
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tsukoharulinux is only on one hard drive; the same one my windows partition would be on06:07
omglolwweasel: i restarted it.. still doesnt show wireless06:07
wweaselhmm...06:07
foglighttsukoharu: you can try to install ubuntu once more instead to give it another shot06:07
tsukoharui lost the cd ^^;06:07
foglighthaha06:07
foglightyou are in a world of hurt06:07
wweaselomglol: everything but lo is commented out in /etc/network/interfaces ?06:07
tsukoharuso yea windows is my last hope06:07
tsukoharuso how do i format06:07
foglighttsukoharu: read more about your bios and how to get into the "advanced" menu06:07
tsukoharufog where?06:07
omglolwweasel: yup06:07
xdragonxtsuko??? did you try finding an RPM for the drivers for your netcard?06:07
tsukoharui cant find ANYTHING06:07
foglighton google06:08
omglolwweasel: only 2 lines comtaining lo uncommented06:08
xdragonxyou can convert those to .deb06:08
jakalhow do i find out which version of dapper i have?06:08
tsukoharuxdragon no use06:08
tsukoharui cant download the program for it06:08
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tsukoharui have no internet for my laptop06:08
xdragonxthrow it on a cd06:08
tsukoharuk06:08
foglighttsukoharu: the 'cfdisk` command can erase it06:08
wweaselomglol: I really don't know why it wouldn't be working then. You can try restarting your computer06:08
omglolok brb06:08
tsukoharufog ill keep that in mind06:09
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tsukoharuxdragon ndiswrapper right?06:09
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xdragonxthats what i would try06:09
xdragonxif you cant get the others06:09
foglighttsukoharu: can you just download and burn ubuntu then fi you are making a cd?06:09
spasticteapotAnyone here do any video editing in Linux?06:09
spasticteapotI need to do video editing with a minimal amount of hardware (miniscule educational budget), and Cinlerra looks nice.06:10
tsukoharui dont wanna go through reinstalling ubuntu for a card06:10
spasticteapotWhat kind of CPU would I need?06:10
tsukoharuwont do crap06:10
tsukoharubecause the module for my card isnt on ubuntu anyways06:10
xdragonxtsuko?  try suse just to see06:10
tsukoharususe O.o06:10
spasticteapotTsukoharu - what card are you trying to use?06:10
foglightah i see, well you could just buy a cheap nic for $1006:10
tsukoharua wired ethernet card from dynex spastic06:10
wweaselspasticteapot: I don't do video editing, but in case you haven't tried it, check out Kino06:11
xdragonxor wireless setup06:11
tsukoharu!suse06:11
ubotuOther !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)06:11
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tsukoharuwhat is suse06:11
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xdragonxsuse is an oldtime linux distro06:11
hope13it's not that old06:11
xdragonxits a big download tho06:11
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hope13slack is older06:11
spasticteapotMy ex-girlfriend swore by it.06:11
omglolcool i see wireless in network-manager. do i have to uncomment those lines?06:11
xdragonxits a build off redhat06:11
xdragonxyeah not that old but older than alot06:12
tsukoharuid want to install that -_-06:12
foglighti doubt suse will have a driver if ubuntu doesnt06:12
xdragonxubuntu is better by far (in my oppinion)06:12
tsukoharuxdragon, u said a program can convert to .deb right06:12
omglolwweasel: i see wireless network in network manager!however network monitor doesnt show eth106:12
xdragonxalien06:12
hope13it's a bias opinion lol06:12
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spasticteapotHmm....try installing wifi-radar.06:12
xdragonxthats the name of the program to convert06:13
xdragonx(alien)06:13
hope13red hat will work on your laptop06:13
hope13i google it06:13
hope13apparently someone got it to work06:13
spasticteapotI don't think Ubuntu has Wifi-radar or a similar wifi-management software.06:13
tsukoharulink?06:13
wweaselomglol: Nope, leave them commented. Now network-manager can manage them, but the standard tools cannot. It's really one or ther other.06:13
tsukoharuxdragon throw me a link06:13
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hope13google red hat06:13
xdragonxit does have wifi-radar06:13
xdragonxi have it installed06:13
leprasmurfwhat kind of device is sit0?06:13
metromanMerry Christmas! Happy Holidays!06:13
omglolwweasel: oo ok nice.. will wifi-radar conflict with networkmanager?06:13
_fnordjoejaxx: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38738/06:13
bulmersit0 is ipv606:13
joejaxxipv6 ftw06:13
wweaselomglol: Can't say, I've never used wifi-radar.06:13
tsukoharuoh i got alien :o06:13
tsukoharui just dont know what 2 convert :P06:14
omglolwweasel: oo thnx! now i dun have to reinstall :D06:14
thoreauputicomglol: yes, I think it uses the standard config - I couldn't get it to play nice with n-m06:14
xdragonxits just  sudo alien (name).rpm06:14
wweaselomglol: it might not be able to recognize the network devices with them commented out. I don't know how it works06:14
xdragonxin terminal06:14
tsukoharuwhat is the rpm06:14
omglolhmm ok06:14
tsukoharuthe only drivers i got06:14
tsukoharuare on a cd06:14
leprasmurfipv6?  it's a seperate device?  or do you mean a device that uses ipv6?06:14
tsukoharufor a "windows' install06:14
wweaselomglol: Yeah, it's a trade-off, one or the other. If you decide to switch back, you uncomment all the lines.06:14
xdragonxthats if you find the rpm file for your card06:15
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omglolicic06:15
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xdragonxwhat is the card again?06:15
foglighttsukoharu: they have linux drivers06:15
foglighthttp://www.dynexproducts.com/skins/Skin_1/Topics/Drivers/DX-E101_Drivers.zip06:15
jimmygoonewww dynex >_<06:15
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joejaxx_fnord: did you add the beryl repository?06:15
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_fnordi belive so brb06:15
xdragonxthat link has a wrapper file06:16
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omglolanyone managed to install a acx10 based wireless card? Im using dlink dwl 520+06:16
tsukoharufog but are those for my card06:16
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foglighttsukoharu: i think so but who knows06:17
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tsukoharuminesa pcmcia card for a laptop06:17
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tsukoharunot an ethernet card for a pci slot06:17
foglightoh06:17
foglightthen no06:17
foglightthere is another zip file on that sire06:17
foglightsite06:17
tsukoharuthere is none for the pcmcia card06:17
foglighthttp://www.dynexproducts.com/skins/Skin_1/Topics/Drivers/DX-E201_Drivers.exe06:17
nix_ferretI'm trying to stream media from an XP box (ntfs) is there some library I can install that will allow ubuntu to read (stream) the files?06:18
foglight"Drivers for the DX-E201 Dynex Notebook 10/100 32-Bit PCMCIA Network Card"06:18
_fnordjoejaxx: i just checked and ya i did but i also got this error:06:18
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_fnordroot@fluxbuntu:/home/fnord# sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-air-core linux-dri-modules-common linux-dri-modules-`uname -r`06:18
foglightnix_ferret: you can smbmount the windows drive06:18
_fnordE: Couldn't find package linux-dri-modules-2.6.15-27-38606:18
tsukoharuthats only for windows fog -_-06:18
omglolanyone managed to install a acx100 based wireless card? Im using dlink dwl 520+06:18
_fnordjoejaxx: whats that mean?06:18
foglighttsukoharu: ya then you need this http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/ndiswrapper/06:18
joejaxx_fnord: that the package is not available06:19
_fnordso im poop out of luck?06:19
joejaxx_fnord: you could skip it but when you play movies you will not be able to see them with aoglx enabled06:19
foglighttsukoharu: get ndiswrapper-common and -utils from Dec2006:19
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tsukoharuoh i see a linux install06:20
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tsukoharuits just i only see 2 txts in there :/06:20
_fnordjoejaxx: is that what afecting the next step?06:20
_fnordthe no such file or directory?06:21
foglighttsukoharu: extract the driver .exe to somewhere and burn the contents plus the ndiswrapper .deb's to a cd06:21
joejaxx_fnord: that package does not exist06:21
joejaxx_fnord: the dri modules06:21
foglighttsukoharu: install the .deb's using dpkg -i <.deb> and then run ndisgtk to select the windows drivers06:21
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icmp-Does anyone know how to make grub boot edgy from ~50gb of an 80gb drive off /dev/hdb ? I keep getting the error 18 complaining about the cylinder being > what the bios supports but #1 my bios isnt old and #2 other distros w/ grub have handled it fine. I've tried manually setting the geometry in the bios and toggling LBA & re-installing grub but it refuses to work06:23
omglolanyone managed to install a acx100 based wireless card?06:24
foglightomglol: http://acx100.sourceforge.net/06:24
CheyenneDHow do install Xine06:25
foglightCheyenneD: sudo apt-get install xine06:25
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omglolfoglight: thnx. i followed the instructions there but it cant work. dmesg says a file in acx/default can be found and that guide never said anything about that file06:26
nix_ferretMaybe I'm missing something. When I navigate to the shared windows drive and try to open a file (i.e. mp3) the app says that it can not read from source.06:26
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CheyenneDforlight: That does not work06:26
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SilentDishappy Chrismahanukwanzakah everyone!06:26
foglightnix_ferret: there is no mp3 support out of box06:26
nix_ferretyes I know, I installed it06:26
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nix_ferretIf I copy the file it works fine06:27
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nix_ferretIt can't stream it b/c it's ntfs?06:27
foglightnix_ferret: never had a problem myself06:27
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cmweb!kde06:28
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE06:28
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foglightare you trying to drag a graphical file object into the media player or something?06:28
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nix_ferretDo you have some sort of sharing app on your XP box?06:28
foglightis the ntfs share mounted or you are using a samba client?06:28
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foglighti use smbmount to mount the share and then it looks normal to local applications06:29
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foglightCheyenneD: try installing it from System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager06:29
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nix_ferretI mounted it06:30
nix_ferretIt's on the desktop06:30
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cmwebWhats the difference between Kubuntu and Ubuntu?06:30
foglightomglol: what does dmesg say exactly?06:30
foglightcmweb: Kubuntu uses KDE06:30
cmwebKDE, is it like gnome?06:31
Ashton_KAnyone recognize this? "Wlanconfig: ioctl: No such device"?06:31
foglightyea it is a graphical user interface06:31
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nix_ferretI didn't care for KDE YMMV06:31
foglightAshton_K: ya it doesnt see your network device06:31
SilentDisquestion:  just quickly here... where can I go to find different usplash screens (tried making my own with the tutorial, and I just get lost) :P06:31
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cmwebcan i go to kubuntu by getting kubuntu-desktop?06:31
foglightcmweb: probably06:31
Siph01hey06:31
kyncanicmeme: yeah06:32
nix_ferretyes06:32
Ashton_KThat's annoying, since I just built a driver for it.06:32
Ashton_KAny ideas?06:32
Siph01what repository is libdvdcss in? i thought multiverse but i have that added already06:32
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nix_ferretyou can choose at login gui which 1 u want06:32
foglightAshton_K: what does iwconfig say?06:32
cmwebHow different is KDE from Gnome? is it any better?06:32
SilentDisSiph01:  I pulled it from the debian archives and used dpkg to install it, personally.  newer version, as well :)06:32
nix_ferretthat's like coke vs. pepsi06:33
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Ashton_Klo, eth0, eth1, and sit0 all report "No wireless extensions"06:33
ken Any one using the driver from 'fs-driver.org' over here?06:33
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Ashton_KAn attempt to restart /etc/init.d/networking results in errors on both ath0 and wlan0 saying "No such device"06:33
kyncanicmweb: different06:33
nix_ferretI think KDE is good for work stuff but Gnome is good all around and good for n00bs like me06:33
cmwebwhats different about it06:33
foglightAshton_K: the driver isn't loading or it isn't recognizing the card06:33
Ashton_KIt's an Atheros chipset wifi card. The restricted modules one didn't work. So I compiled a driver for it using madwifi-ng06:34
cmwebwork stuff? as in scriptsing06:34
nix_ferretyou should just try it out, it's kind of a personal choice thing06:34
kyncanicmweb: like coke vs pepsi, as said above. Try and make your own opinion06:34
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Ashton_KAnd the driver is loaded (lsmod | grep ath_pci shows it)06:34
hope13um i burn the iso on a cd06:34
hope13but i don't know how to install it06:34
hope13>,>06:34
cmwebok il try it am i going to have to restart?06:34
SilentDiscmweb:  the KDE environment is more centered on availability of features.  Gnome is centered on simplicity.  at least, that's what I take from the 2 (I have both, and prefer Gnome)06:34
hope13i put the 6.10 cd into my drive and boot it up no?06:34
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foglightAshton_K: what does it say in dmesg about the card?06:35
kyncanicmweb: nope, just logout and choose a kde session at the login screen06:35
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nix_ferretThere is a reason that the ubuntu main package uses gnome06:35
SilentDishope13:  after you burn the CD, just put it into your CD drive, and reboot your machine.  it'll boot from the CD, and you'll be in the LiveCD Ubuntu.  There's an install button there :)06:35
adrifthello folks06:35
hope13i chose boot or install option (first option) of the iso and it only let me boot06:35
cmweb168MB I DONT think so06:35
SilentDisAdrift:  welcome and happy Chrismahanukwanzakah!06:35
hope13is the install button the first option?06:35
hope13lol06:35
foglighthope13: there is a desktop icon to install06:35
hope13oh06:36
foglight;)06:36
hope13on the live?06:36
foglightyep06:36
hope13oh ok06:36
hope13thx you06:36
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hope13brb lol06:36
Ashton_KI think this is the line: "ACPI : PCI interrupt 0000:02:07.0 disabled"06:36
foglightAshton_K: so it doesnt show in lspci either?06:36
adriftlol thanks SilentDis.06:36
Ashton_KIt does, actually.06:37
SilentDisadrift:  it's my new favorite word :)06:37
adriftwhen replying to a specific individual here, how do i hightlight their name in red06:37
foglightAshton_K: and you have 2 more net cards in there as well?06:37
Ashton_KOne built in, and one PCI.06:37
PhibreOptixadrift: Put there name infront of your message, like PhibreOptix:06:37
Ashton_KIs that a glitch in Edgy?06:38
SilentDisadrift:  type their name first.  most clients will take care of that for them.06:38
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adriftok thank you06:38
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Ashton_K(The built in one is covered, stupid Motherboard came with the wrong backplate)06:38
PhibreOptixadrift: And you can use the tab button for auto-completion06:38
timfrostSiph01: I have libdvdcss2  1.2.9-0.0ubuntu4  for edgy from seveas repository in section extras.  See !seveas for the URL06:38
jpsMerry Christmas06:38
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kenHELP: on starting ubuntu i get: /dev/hda1 has been mount 30 times, without being checked, and then it is checked (slowly), similarly a message comes for /dev/hdb1. And i have to wait. Can someone tell me why this error comes? I tried writing to a EXT3 /home with the driver from fs-driver.org, from windows and after that this happens,06:38
PhibreOptixYea merry christmas all06:38
SilentDisjps:  happy Chrismahanukwanzakah!06:38
PhibreOptixI got a new video card06:38
foglightAshton_K: well you mentioned an eth0 and eth1 i wonder if one of those is the atheros card06:38
Ashton_KNo, they're wired.06:38
thoreauputicken: that's just a normal fsck message06:39
Ashton_KAth0 is the wireless.06:39
adriftPhibreOptix what do you mean by auto-completion?06:39
SilentDisadrift, type the first 3 letters of my name, then hit tab06:39
PhibreOptixadrift: Ok, type in Phi then press tab, it'll goto the closet match06:39
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adriftSilentDis, ah. thanks06:39
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kenthoreauputic: Does that occur at regular intervals? or was it triggered by my writing on the partition with that driver from windows? And i haven't got time to wait and see my drives being slowly checked all day? What is the frequency of this check and what triggered it?06:40
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cmwebIn 15 minutes it wil be christmass morning06:40
SilentDiscmweb:  happy Chrismahanukwanzakah!06:40
Ashton_KIn 15 minutes it'll be 1 AM.06:40
PhibreOptixIt's already christmas here in Aussie =D06:40
thoreauputicken: as it says, about every 30 boots/mounts06:40
Ashton_KUndiranakwanzamas.06:40
Spistersit is 40 minutes into Christmas morning here06:40
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cmwebsilentDis, how did you learn to spell that06:41
thoreauputicken: you can change the frequency with tune2fs IIRC06:41
SilentDiscmweb: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrismahanukwanzakah06:41
SilentDiscmweb:  *giggle*06:41
jpsI have a strange problem with network-manager.... the default instal was fine, but i just changed the ubuntu network preferences tool (System->Administration->Networking) to use a static ip(no dhcp anymore)... everything works fine but network manager does not recognize my wired interface anymore... it complains its not connected06:41
kenthoreauputic: So it WAS NOT triggered by me writing through the EXT3 driver from Windows? And it is supposed to occur on every machine after 30 reboots? Am i getting this right?06:41
kenSilentDis: cmweb: forming a cult?06:41
ken:)06:42
jpsanyone has seen this bug before?06:42
SilentDisken:  yes, fsck runs through your drive every 30 boots.06:42
nix_ferretJust fyi, streaming over samba is broke in edgy : http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35132206:42
cmwebKen, why what makes you think that06:42
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thoreauputicken: 1) I don't know as I've never used the driver 2) I see that happen at regular intervals 3) see my other answer re: frequency06:42
SpistersOk I don't get it, I kept getting this error "hda: ide_intr: huh? expected NULL handler on exit06:42
SpistersBuffer I/O error on device hda, logical block" when I tried to boot from the cd, I was still getting it, and finally I just said be that way and let it run, and now I just checked on it and it is loaded, what gives?06:42
kencmweb: That strange greeting06:42
foglightAshton_K: did you try the footnote in the instructions about fedora?06:42
adriftIs anyone here running World of Warcraft in Wine? I have a couple questions, specifically: In Windows you can hit the windows key to bring up you're desktop and then tab back onto WoW in the taskbar. Is there a way to do this in Ubuntu?06:42
foglightputting alias wlan0 acx in /etc/modprobe.conf06:42
cmwebken, i dont know about silentdis, but im not i perfectly happy06:43
SilentDisken:  I find that line rather funny is all :)06:43
thoreauputicken: see the -c option in  man tune2fs06:43
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kenthoreauputic: SilentDis: So in NO WAY is the Windows ext3 driver responsible for this check? right? And it is supposed to occur regularly ALSO ON only ubuntu systems? Moreover after it checked my drive it told me that '0.6% was not journalled', is that normmal too?06:44
jpsYou folks have ever used a static ip in ubuntu with network-manager applet?06:44
Ashton_KI don't see a footnote that would apply in the Fedora section.06:44
Ashton_KAll the way at the bottom?06:44
foglightya06:44
foglighthttp://acx100.sourceforge.net/wiki/ACX06:44
Spistersok, now I get it, it just didn't load my hard drives, so I guess I am having a hard drive issue then?06:44
thoreauputicken: it happens regularly, you can adjust the frequency as I said, and the last question I don't know06:44
kenthoreauputic: OK, thank you06:45
SilentDisken:  most linux distros set a default of around 30 for the boot check, yes.  (i've seen 37, 29, other strange numbers).  the idea is to just check the disk from time to time, to make sure nothing is wrong.  if there's errors, it'll prompt you through fixing them, as well.  otherwise, they're just 'notices'06:45
Ashton_Kfoglight: You mean that init script someone wrote?06:45
thoreauputicken: if everything works, i wouldn't worry unduly aboutthe journal :)06:45
Ashton_KWill that even run in Ubuntu?06:45
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leprasmurfhow do you install hotplug in ubuntu?06:45
foglightAshton_K: no you on the page i sent?06:45
kenSilentDis: Moreover after it checked my drive it told me that '0.6% was not journalled', is that normmal too?06:45
cmwebhey how do i get my channels topic to do right i set it then log back in and its gone06:45
Ashton_KWell, it's not an ACX chipset....06:46
foglightits not?06:46
jpsif something is not written to the journal... due to a crash perhaps... the journal is fsckd kinda and its updated06:46
SilentDisken:  if it didn't pause and drop you to a console during the boot, it's simply a notice.  nothing to worry over.  :)06:46
foglighti thought the module was acx_pci06:46
kenSilentDis: OK :)06:46
jpsso next boot you end up with a consistent journal... don't worry06:46
Ashton_KNo, Atheros.06:46
Ashton_KIt uses Madwifi.06:46
kenjps: OK06:46
thoreauputicken: ).6% of your journal is not a large number :)06:46
Ashton_KACX is made by TI I believe.06:47
kenGood bye, and have a Good Day!06:47
SilentDisken:  if you INSIST on running fsck yourself to double check the disk, you can... but it's a hastle, and not really necessary.  that's why that check is in there, to allevate that from you having to do yourself :)06:47
thoreauputicken: bye06:47
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foglightAshton_K: oops i got you confused with omglol06:47
Ashton_KNo prob.06:47
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jpsNow anyone who uses networkmanger applet has set his eth0 ip to a static instead of a dhcp one?06:48
kenSilentDis: thoreauputic: jps: And do you know for SURE, that writing to my /home from Windows thorugh that fs-driver.org's EXT3 driver was not the culprit for 0.6% of my drive not being journalled?06:48
Ashton_KThe card is in lspci, it has worked before (it isn't DOA), the driver compiled and installed without complaint (modprobe ath_pci). But it won't load ath0 or wlan0 when i restart networking. Can't find it.06:48
kenAshton_K: Do you know about the Aston shell?06:48
Ashton_KIronically, yes.06:48
Ashton_KBut that's not where the name comes from.06:48
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john_Hello06:48
thoreauputicken: I already told you I have no experience with this driver. And i think you are worrying too much :)06:49
kenAshton_K: just wanted to enquite :)06:49
jpsi changed my ip to a static one in ubuntu system menu... now network manager complains im not connectec... which I am of coure...06:49
kenthoreauputic: ok :006:49
Ashton_KRighteo.06:49
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Ashton_KI actually used to use Aston, but my firewall hatedit.06:49
john_can i get some help?06:49
Ashton_KBut Ashton is actually my name (Note the extra h)06:49
kenjps: Does your ISP provide the facility of giving you a static IP?06:49
jpsken06:49
Ashton_KSure, john.06:49
SilentDisken:  it doesn't matter.  the EXT3 system isn't the same as a FAT or NTFS file system.  fragmentation and the like just doesn't mean the same thing in a journalized, modern FS as it does in single-process ones (like NTFS/FAT)06:49
Ashton_KShoot.06:49
jpsthis fsdrivers understand normaly only EXT206:50
kenAshton_K: I too tinkered with it a bit, then removed it and then ended up formating WIndows06:50
jpssince EXT3 is a EXT2 with journal...06:50
john_How can i Internet connection share.06:50
jpsthey just don't update the journal06:50
Ashton_Kjps, you can mount ext3 as ext2.06:50
thoreauputicken: if only 0.6 % of your journal was missed, you have little to worry about ( note that I used to run unjournalled filesystems all the time before ext3)06:50
john_I have the directions for a mAc06:50
jpsyeah exactly06:50
Spistersmy God it worked, now here is my only question, what sort of drives does Ubuntu come with and I heard that if you duel boot with Windows that it can look for drivers in windows to use, is this true?06:50
jpsext3 mouted as ext2 = no journal06:50
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Ashton_KSpisters, if Ubuntu is installed AFTER windows, you'll have a dual boot.06:51
jpsso the data was written to your fs... but not the journal META data06:51
Ashton_KAs long as the partitions are separate.06:51
kenjps: i am listening06:51
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Ashton_KUbuntu by default uses GRUB, which will allow for multiple OS's.06:51
jpsso ken... yes probably the fswindows driver is the cause for this check06:51
john_Is there a way to connection sharing. using my ethernet as source to wifi, to other laptops?06:51
jpsbut there is no problem06:51
Spistersright, my question is, is there any reason to duel boot, can Ubuntu look to windows for drivers?06:51
Ashton_KBut if Windows is installed second, it'll overwrite grub with the MBR, which won't see Linux.06:51
Ashton_KFor drivers? No way.06:51
Ashton_KOnly if you have some software in Windows that you REALLY want.06:52
Ashton_KOr Games.06:52
Spistersthen if I have other computers with windows and need this as a server this is no reason to do that06:52
Ashton_KOnly if you have a need for Windows.06:52
kenjps: thoreauputic: SilentDis: But i dont want to sit around and foolishly let my drives being checked when i have simply copied a .txt file from WIn->/home. You know it takes a long time to check the FS, and i feel kinda' foolish waiting for this process to happen everytime i copy something06:52
Ashton_KAs far as linux is concerned, it's just taking up space.06:52
Ashton_KIt can't borrow drivers, executables, anything.06:52
SilentDisken: it'll only happen once every 30 boots into linux :)06:52
thoreauputicken: does it happen on every boot?06:52
kenSpisters: Ubuntu CANNOT look IN WINDOWS06:52
jpsubuntu just said: i see new data... my journal doesn't acknowledge this... it must be corrupt (it was just old info)... so the kernel fs driver fixed it06:53
Ashton_KIt can, but what's the point.06:53
Ashton_KThere's nothing there it can use.06:53
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john_I wait for you to help this guy.06:53
Ashton_KWindows drivers don't work in Linux, executables aren't compatable.06:53
holycow!offtopic06:53
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!06:53
Spistersno need for this computer to run windows, thanks guys, and sorry for the nub questions I had someone tell me that it could look to windows but I kinda suspected the guy was full of it, I mean thats like saying Apple can use windows06:53
max_how do you enable direct rending06:53
holycow!bitchfest06:53
Ashton_Kjohn, have you burned it to a disc and booted it ?06:53
adriftOK, no answer to the WoW question? That's fine, i have another question. I have an x86-64 chip and am having problems with flash in the 64 bit version of Firefox, so i've been using Swiftfox as a work around, but i'm wondering if i'm missing anything with Firefox and if so how would i be able to get flash to work in firefox?06:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bitchfest - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:53
holycow!complain06:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about complain - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:53
john_No im not talking about that06:54
holycowtouche we need some entries on that06:54
nix_ferretShow of hands - what ubuntu/kubuntu re;eases is everyone using?06:54
john_Im talking about Connection sharing06:54
max_!language|holycow06:54
ubotuholycow: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.06:54
Ashton_KOh boy, I don't know much about that.06:54
adriftubuntu edgy06:54
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SilentDisnix_ferret:  Ubuntu 6.10, installed Kubuntu after.06:54
max_how do you enable direct rending?06:54
thoreauputicguys, leave the poor bot alone :)06:54
john_would the mac directions work?06:54
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SpistersI have heard though that you can get a program wrap around a windows driver for wireless cards to work in it?06:54
Ashton_Kndiswrapper.06:55
adriftholycow, man you seem to get yourself in all kinds of trouble here don't you lol06:55
Ashton_KSpotty, but a decent work around.06:55
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holycowadrift, truth hurts06:55
nix_ferretanyone having the issue where you can't stream files from an XP box? (v6.10)06:55
kenjps: SilentDisjps: SilentDis: thoreauputic: Thank you and have a nice day, i will need to do some more experimentation to check whether the disk check is run everytime i write somehting from WIndows or was it a mere GODDAMN co-incidence that is causing all this worry to me06:55
jpsjust anyone can help me with my bug on network-manager?? i selected a static ip in ubuntu's default network tool an now network manager  complains it's not connected anymore06:55
thoreauputicken: apart from the swearing, you're welcome :)06:55
foglightadrift: not much in the way of 64bit support form multimedia plugins06:56
john_Hello?06:56
nix_ferretThinking about trying feisty herd106:56
jpsken> reboot your ubuntu... see if the check dissapears... it should...06:56
SilentDisken:  no troubles.  happy Chrismahanukwanzakah!06:56
SpistersHow much room does Ubuntu need, I have a 2 gig drive, can I use that as my master and save my 80 gig as a slave for file space?06:56
holycowjps, you can set that up manuall in /etc/network/interfaces06:56
Ashton_KSure.06:56
jpsthen boot windows again and write something to ext3 again.. and see06:56
nix_ferretAnyone try feisty yet?06:56
adriftfoglight, yeah, i've been noticing that. very disappointed06:56
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john_Argh...06:56
Ashton_KThat 2 gig should be big enough to split between /boot and swap.06:56
Ashton_KThen use the 80 gig for root.06:56
holycowjps, you need to ifdown eth0 or whatever interface it is, change it to static ip, then do iface eth0 up06:56
Ashton_KOr split that between root and /home, if you want to.06:56
kenok bye06:56
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foglightadrift: 64bit is mostly for servers06:56
max_how do you enable direct rending?06:56
SilentDisnix_ferret:  I might mess with it in march or so... lol06:56
deebuis gnome 2.16 faster than 2.14 or the same???06:56
john_im sad :(06:57
holycowoops sorry last one should be ifup eth006:57
jpsholycow> i used system->administration->networking....  now the network-manager applet thinks im offline06:57
adriftfoglight, why do they sell it to client consumers then?06:57
Spisterswow, I kinda just put the dot in the one I want, how do I say use this as home?06:57
deebuis gnome 2.16 faster than 2.14 or the same??? if yes...is there a big difference?06:57
nix_ferretcan u upgrade to gnome 2.16 in the package manager?06:57
Spistersman I feel stupid06:57
foglightadrift: sell what?06:57
jpsholycow> i even rebooted the box... it still thinks im offline lol06:57
holycowjps, sounds like its not reading the  interfaces file.06:57
foglightadrift: if you want to do video editing06:57
holycowjpiccolo, you don't need to reboot linux, just shutdown and startup eth card06:58
SilentDisdeebu:  define 'faster'.  I didn't notice a speed improvement going from 2.14>2.16.  the biggest change, for me at least, between dapper and edgy, was my boot time was cut in half lol06:58
thoreauputicnix_ferret: afaik edgy uses 2.1606:58
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jpsholy>yeah... strange isnt it?06:58
Spisterswould I use "manually edit partition table" to set that up? or can I not use the GUI loader?06:58
holycowjps, it happens, easily fixed, let me get you a sample interface file to look at06:58
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SilentDisnix_ferret:  a lot of stuff that's in edgy is available in dapper, via the backports.06:59
Ashton_KOne last attempt, try to brute force my way to wireless joy with ndiswrapper.06:59
SilentDis!backports | nix_ferret06:59
ubotunix_ferret: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports06:59
Ashton_KIf this doesn't work, I'll try a different distro.06:59
holycowhttp://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-ubuntu-server-from-dhcp-to-a-static-ip-address/06:59
jpswhat is the path to the interface file again?06:59
deebuSilentDis, , i wanna go back to dapper.....as edgy is givin me probs...including loong boot time n blank screen bootup...should i go back? i see nothing special except FF 2.0..06:59
adriftfoglight, i mean... seems like there's not many folks warning others that 64 bit should be server based. and no, i don't do video editing. guess i was one of the chumps that jumped on to the hype about 64 bit being the wave of the future.06:59
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holycowjps, no rebooting required06:59
thoreauputicjps: /etc/network/interfaces06:59
nix_ferrethmm, thanks guys. Goin to check it now06:59
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foglightadrift: its not like nintendo vs nintendo 64 ;)07:00
SilentDisdeebu:  Firefox 2.0 is available in dapper-backports (i think), so if that's all you saw that you wanted, you can safely go back.  but, we MIGHT be able to help you with your edgy woes here you know :)07:00
deebuSilentDis, but for me dapper booted slightly faster...n with a pretty usplash..in edgy i dont see anythin on bootup..07:00
adriftfoglight, lol, true07:00
Ashton_Kanyone know if ndiswrapper is in apt-get?07:00
foglightadrift: wikipedia has a nice article on 64bit07:00
thoreauputic!ndiswrapper07:00
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:00
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deebuSilentDis, ive tried a LOT to fix the usplash issue...on forums too...bu to no avail...do u know how i can make the usplash appear? i see a blank screen until gdm comes..07:01
n2diyWhy does Firefox refuse to accept cookis?07:01
deebuSilentDis, i can also use swiftfox which would be better:)07:01
idlemindn2diy; it's now hungry07:01
SilentDisdeebu:  i lost mine when I was messing with the ubuntu satanic edition usplash replacement rofl.  I'm going through the usplash info i can find now though.  might be a day or 2 before I'm comfortable guiding someone else though it though :)07:02
adriftfoglight, yeah. i've seen it. it just seems that most magazines like Maximum PC, and articles online and what not... well they seem to push 64bit tech as the thing to get if you want to be one step ahead of the masses especially in gaming and high end apps. but i'm finding it a nuisance more than anything07:02
n2diyiblemind, I feed him.07:02
n2diyidlemind, I feed him.07:03
holycowadrift, not only that, its mostly pointless for average applications07:03
Spistersthank you for the wireless information07:03
john_too late07:03
john_heheh07:03
john_i heard firestarter can connection share..07:03
john_is this true?07:03
holycowvery ffew things can actually use the power of 64'bitness07:03
john_dont you card have linux drivers?07:03
john_your*07:03
idlemindn2diy; that's the problem; he won't take cookies till u make him hungry; cut off his lil fox food and he'll take every cookie u throw his way07:03
adriftso when will this change, or will it?07:03
john_Intel has linux chipset drivers.07:03
deebuon my hardware...ubuntu's been getting worse with every release!07:03
adriftVista?07:03
Telroth_Plushie|Merry Christmas all07:03
john_Help me now?07:03
holycowadrift, when ftp clients somehow start to require 64'bit related power?07:03
SilentDisTelroth_Plushie|, happy Chrismahanukwanzakah!07:04
Spisterslets say I fill up the 2 gig drive with programs, would I be able to install programs on my IDA slave drive?07:04
holycowmaybe ms can do something about that07:04
john_Happy festivus.07:04
n2diyidlemind, ok, thanks.07:04
john_Festivus for the rest of us.07:04
deebubut i FEEL gnome 2.16 is a BIT faster in loading apps than dapper...wonder if u'll agree..?07:04
n2diy73 all, and merry Xmas.07:04
SilentDisjohn_, i prefer Chrismahanukwanzakah lol07:04
deebuSilentDis,07:04
adrifti wish someone pointed this all out to me 4 months ago :D07:04
deebuSilentDis, but i FEEL gnome 2.16 is a BIT faster in loading apps than dapper...wonder if u'll agree..?07:04
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john_Festivus isnt about material things though.07:04
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john_its about how everyone dissapointed you that year.07:05
deebuguess what? my cousins saw my cool ubuntu desktop n praised it n began askin me abt the OS:)07:05
jpsyou guys were talking about backports...07:05
jpshttp://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper-backports/allpackages07:05
idleminddoes ubuntu desktop and ubuntu server have different forums?07:05
adriftFestivus lol. I love Seinfeld. How do we incorporate Festivus into the discussion in order to stay on topic and not get the Gods angry? :D07:06
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SilentDisdeebu:  eh *shrug*.  i found beryl easier to play with in edgy lol.  they both have their advantages (edgy is bleeding edge tech in some respects, dapper is very very stable).07:06
jpshave  a look.. it does not have firefox 2.0 or anything remotely useful07:06
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john_will mac commands work in terminal.07:06
nix_ferretIf I'm having an issue with gnome-vfs and I need to install a diff version, what's the best way?07:06
john_i never used a mac. so u dunno.07:06
john_*I07:06
SpistersI use a mac, but I never use terminal in mac so I could try some if you like07:06
holycownix_ferret, wait for the next ubuntu update and post bugreports07:07
john_well ifconfig is in linux right/07:07
SilentDisadrift:  i think we'll hit an !offtopic before it gets too far rofl07:07
john_??07:07
Spistersyeah07:07
Spisterslet me check if it is in mac hold on07:07
adriftSilentDis, yeah probably.07:07
jpsanyone here uses dapper and backports... and uses it for any important package?07:07
nix_ferretBug report is listed as fixed, but it's not. No way to force install?07:07
thoreauputicjohn_: macs now use bash, so some commands are the same - but macs have extra ones that are not bash07:07
Spistersyes it does work07:08
adriftso what am i missing in firefox compared to swiftfox?07:08
john_Well i trying to follow these instruction but they are mac only07:08
adrifter... with swiftfox that should read07:08
SilentDisyou know... never used that...07:08
SilentDis!swiftfox07:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about swiftfox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:08
thoreauputicjohn_: the mac file system structure is entirely different - i wouldn't use mac instructions07:09
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thoreauputicjohn_: what are you trying to do ?07:09
adriftdarn it, i was hoping for easy answers here without doing a search. :D ok nevermind then.07:09
holycowit's also bsd07:09
SpistersI have a sneaking suspicion that OSX is just a fancy linux build because they keep updating it with things that are already commonly found in linux boots, and if everyone else already knows this then I guess I look stupid again tonight07:09
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holycowlots of difference that matter there07:09
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deebuits child's play to install swiftfox in dapper or edgy...go to http://getswiftfox.com/debian.htm07:09
john_well im trying to get my nintendo ds to work online. and it dont like my routers.07:09
thoreauputicholycow: pretty bastardised bsd though I'm afraid07:10
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john_so im trying internet share.07:10
holycowthoreauputic, *nod* yeah :/07:10
adrifti have swiftfox, i was just wondering what the "major" differences would be.07:10
SpistersI have actually head about that happening, you may need to turn on port forwarding07:10
thoreauputicjohn_: nintendo? Why are you asking here? *laughs*07:10
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Spisterswhere is that off topic thing now??07:11
Spistershaha j/k07:11
john_no im trying to get ICS on linux07:11
john_but i dunno how07:11
adriftI know a lot of people use Opera because of firefox's memory usage, do you folks recommend any browser over another?07:11
thoreauputic----->>> #ubuntu-offtopic  *grin*07:11
nix_ferretWhat are the major diffs b/w dapper and edgy?07:11
Ashton_KArgh, ndiswrapper didn't work.07:11
john_ICS is off topic?07:11
Spistersman firefox is pretty nice, I can over look it's memory usage07:11
Ashton_KWhy, oh why, does my computer hate me?07:11
VR_Edgy sucks07:12
zcat[1] john_: sudo apt-get install firestarter07:12
VR_=)07:12
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deebuyes edgy sucks!07:12
nix_ferretlol, ok. I think i'm seeing that07:12
zcat[1] ics == connection sharing ?07:12
john_yes07:12
adriftdeebu, why exactly?07:12
john_ok ill try that.07:12
john_thanks07:12
nix_ferretseriously, are you ppl running dapper?07:12
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zcat[1] install firestarter, there's a checkbox to share the connection just like in 'doze07:12
deebuadrift, i get blinking cursor loooooong bootup!07:13
VR_dapper feels better, to me.07:13
zcat[1] makes it too easy07:13
holycownix_ferret, nope edgy here07:13
Spistersha, the grinch stole christmas is on!07:13
Spisterskick ass07:13
holycowit works pretty well07:13
john_does it make ssids as well?07:13
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Spistersoops07:13
zcat[1] ssids ?07:13
VR_it rhymes too07:13
VR_dapper is better07:13
nix_ferretI like it, but I NEED to be able to stream mp3 and vids from my XP box.07:13
john_dunn whta a ssid is?07:13
Spisterssorry about that @$$ word07:13
john_its so it emulates an access point07:14
adriftdeebu, really? I've used dapper and edgy and to tell the truth, i haven't noticed a significant difference. course, i'm still pretty new to Ubuntu07:14
zcat[1] suspect you mean allocate addresses.. dhcp. That's a checkbox in firestarter too07:14
john_so a laptop can see it as an access point.07:14
Spistersanyway system is now installing and I guess I will deal with it if I decides it does not like me, have a good one guys, thanks for the hell07:14
Spistershelp*07:14
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SilentDisdeebu:  the only major difference i've noticed between edgy and dapper was in edgy, it was VERY simple to setup Beryl.  rofl07:14
zcat[1] ahhh.. ok, that's a little harder. You need to set up an adhoc wireless network first.07:14
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fivrehow can I get ubuntu to recognize my new monitor's possible resolutions and refresh rates and such?07:15
thoreauputic!fixres07:15
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:15
john_how do i do that?07:15
Ashton_KSon of a!07:15
zcat[1] which is in network settings. I'm not sure a regular card can properly act as an AP, I think you have to set up adhoc at both ends.07:15
Ashton_KNdiswrapper says all of these drivers are invalid.07:15
adriftyeah, beryl works pretty swell with edgy, i had to do a lot of searching in order to get things running with amd64, but even as a novice i haven't had too many problems getting things to gell07:16
Ashton_KWhat the heck?07:16
VR_gell?07:16
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VR_HA!07:16
andy__hello all07:16
thoreauputic!hi07:16
ubotuHi! Welcome to #ubuntu!07:16
deebuadrift, depends on hardware..07:16
zcat[1] !adhoc07:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about adhoc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:17
SilentDisandy__, welcome and happy Chrismahanukwanzakah!07:17
zcat[1] bah07:17
zcat[1] !wifi07:17
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:17
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zcat[1] It's probably in there somewhere ;)07:17
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SilentDis!adhoc is wifi07:17
john_so is there guide for adhoc?07:17
john_this will go over ICS right?07:17
jpsa [07:17
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adriftMy biggest problem with Ubuntu all in all is trying to get the whole thing as user friendly as i possibly can for my girlfriend. I don't mind using the terminal, but i know she'll lose patience if she has to. so i'm trying to do my best with games like WoW and keeping Beryl working with out her getting headaches07:17
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thoreauputicSilenceGold: *cough* I don't think you have access to the bot, and that is the wrong way anyway07:18
john_thats all i need it to do.07:18
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QwertyMadrift, I failed :p07:18
jpsam I missing something? i can't see any firefox package in dapper backports07:18
SilentDisthoreauputic:  you're right on both counts.  :P07:18
VR_adrift: linux isn't for women, son07:18
adriftVR, LMAO, maybe07:18
thoreauputicSilenceGold: also your atempt gets reported :)07:18
thoreauputic*attempt07:18
SilentDisVR_, I take offence at that :P07:18
adriftQwertyM,  you failed trying to get it user friendly?07:18
jpsor in any distro-backports for that matter07:18
SilentDisthoreauputic, oops.  rofl07:19
adriftdeebu, what are you running hardware-wise?07:19
carlfk_lapadrift: if you want your GF to play games , better just run win07:19
holycowadrift, i find ubuntu very userfriendly for noobs07:19
zcat[1] give up on beryl. It's not reliable enough for regular users yet...07:19
QwertyMadrift, no, making my gf use it, even with beryl :p07:19
holycowadrift, what exactly are you trying to accomplish that isn't nicely polished up by default?07:19
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zcat[1] install blubuntu-look for a start. It's much nicer than the default imho07:20
deebuadrift, samsung monitor...intel celeron 2.40 Ghz...integrated intel graphics07:20
carlfk_lapI apt-get installed nvidia-glx, replaced driver=nv with nvidia, but get (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)07:21
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SilentDis!envy | carlfk_lap07:21
ubotucarlfk_lap: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy07:21
carlfk_lapi'll check  it out07:22
zcat[1] carl: you might have to modprobe it or reboot to get the module loaded first07:22
adriftholycow, well for one thing, getting games to play on Ubuntu is sometimes a chore. I have to use Wine, and even then there's stuff i'm struggling with, like being able to switch between a running game and the desktop. i know it can be done (in windows you just hit the "super" key). That's just one example.07:22
SilentDiscarlfk_lap, I hate recommending the binary blobs... but the just work, and that script works PERFECTLY.07:22
highnekoWhen switching workspaces aka desktops, things like folders or programs in my gnome panel stay on both desktops when they're blinking. How can I stop this blinking thing or stop them from staying on other workspaces?07:22
holycowadrift, oh your doing that wrong07:23
john_Zcat, that thing you gave me didnt help07:23
holycowadrift, IF you start off with getting linux to be windows you are going to fail07:23
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holycowjust keep her on windows if thats what she wants07:23
carlfk_lapSilentDis: I want to use the card's svideo, and I need the bin for that, right?07:23
adriftdeebu, yeah your hardware is a bit detrimental i suppose. integrated graphics chip, why don't you spring about a hundred bucks for a graphics card?07:23
knixI'm having issues setting up JNDI resources with Tomcat 5.5 Ubuntu packages. The exact same resources work fine on everything else, and my own tomcat 5.5 from apache.org07:23
adriftholycow, yeah i realize that, but for those who've only ever used Windows... well the curve is still there.07:24
adriftme included07:24
zcat[1] john_: I'm not great with wifi.. perhaps someone else can help07:24
holycowthe most successful approach for me has been to make them understand its different and thta it should be approached that way07:24
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holycowadrift, actually i have found the opposite07:24
deebuadrift, i dotn earn...im  22 n studying...n i dont think dad will agree:)07:24
SilentDiscarlfk_lap, I'm not sure if they've got the Svideo running in the free drivers yet.  I haven't looked at them since I started using the binary blobs back in dapper.  sorry :(07:24
adriftholycow, how's that?07:25
holycowadrift, i have one 60 year old dude (just had birthday last week) running ubuntu without any problem.  he has severe attention defecit syndrome too07:25
holycowas an example07:25
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john_i got this crazy error trying to install firestarter.07:25
holycowand i'm not kidding, i can teach him how to do something one day he will forget it the next day07:25
holycowadrift, the gnome ui is self discoverable, thats the most important feature the gnome team brings to the table, little training required if any07:25
holycowadrift, what we DO gain is however, a very clear distinctio between tasks:  users tasks and administration tasks07:26
zcat[1] john: what error?07:26
adriftdeebu, i'm in school too, (course i'm 31 and working almost full time with a GI BIll) but a hundred fifty for a close to state of the art graphics card isn't that hard to manage.07:26
thoreauputicholycow: that's not attention deficit - that's poor short-term memory ( happens to everyone eventually)07:26
zcat[1] !firestarter07:26
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).07:26
SilentDismoms are a lot less resistant to change, i've found.  my mom is running ubuntu happily hehe07:26
holycowlinux is fairly clear on those roles and most users expect to be a user and admin if they come from windows07:26
zcat[1] !search firestarter07:26
ubotuFound: firewall,firestarter07:26
Ashton_KIf you'll excuse the language, whoever made this Simply Mepis disk was a f*cking idiot.07:27
Ashton_KIt won't let me logon to the live CD.07:27
holycowthoreauputic, lol07:27
Ashton_KStupidest thing ever.07:27
deebuadrift, i know not too expensive...but as i said dad wont agree to it...n im in india:)07:27
holycowadrift, very cool btw :) thats a hard thing to do07:27
thoreauputicholycow: I'm serious - as you get older your short term memory gets worse :)07:27
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SilentDisthoreauputic, where am I again?07:27
holycowthoreauputic, he owns the company i work for ... trust me, its add :) this is one unique fellow07:28
holycowand yes i took a chance at getting my self fired07:28
holycow>_<07:28
holycowlol07:28
thoreauputicSilentDis: this is your third lap of the goldfish bowl ;p07:28
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thoreauputicholycow: OK I trust you :)07:28
SilentDisthoreauputic, woohoo!  3rd lap!  lmao07:28
holycowthe weirdest thing is, he can't really tell the dif between the old system and new, and has never called me once to fix anything07:28
holycowheh07:28
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thoreauputicSilentDis: you just forgot the first two :)07:29
SilentDisthoreauputic, well... that is the problem.  only 2 fins to count on and all...07:29
adriftholycow, yeah, but try getting my mom and dad to run Linux... I mean, if all they did was get on the net or read email, i could get them on Ubuntu in a heart beat, but when it's hard for them to even do the simplest tasks in Windows, it makes me wonder how useful Linux will end up being to them. I still can't help but feel (as user friendly as the Debian spin-offs are) that Linux is just too complicated for the average Joe, and most Linux07:29
adrift users are actually content with that.07:29
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Starcraftmazterwhats a good, FAST command-line ftp client?07:30
thoreauputicSilentDis: yes, evolution is aterrible burden ;p07:30
thoreauputicStarcraftmazter: lftp07:30
Starcraftmazterthanks07:30
idlemindthis is my argument to that;07:30
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SilentDisStarcraftmazter, good old ftp works for me lol07:30
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holycowadrift, if they have problems with the simplest tasks ... whats the poitn of having windows then?07:30
deebulol07:30
holycowadrift, they will just click on something and get spyware and viruses instantly07:30
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StarcraftmazterI can't find a single GUI ftp client for linux which works...well07:30
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idlemindlinux is in most cases easier to use than windows; in most cases windows is harder; like ppl that use just the internet, email, and a word processor/excel ... but yet they buy a new computer every 2 years07:30
erpoIs there a way to convert a video to iPod format and load it onto an iPod without having to compile anything from source? I'm using Edgy.07:31
SilentDisStarcraftmazter, nautilus doesn't work for you?07:31
holycowadrift, just make sure they go through you when buying printers and things so they don't buy stuff that doesn't work07:31
idlemindwhy? because that's what everyone does; but if there needs don't change why should there hardware?07:31
adriftdeebu, living in India make it harder to afford that 100 dollar card? I'm asking because i don't know, most Indians i know here in the States are extremely wealthy... so no offence07:31
Starcraftmazternautilus does ftp? I didn't know07:31
idlemindbecause they don't know how to maintain what they have; and all they need is free.grisoft.com (avg free) and ad-aware from lavasoft07:31
thoreauputicStarcraftmazter: yup ftp://  or connect to server07:31
SilentDisStarcraftmazter, hit the text entry box, and type in an ftp addy.  should go right to it :)07:31
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idlemindbut the continual naivety of computing is it's own downfall; sometimes you just have to sit down and learn some of the basics07:32
SilentDisStarcraftmazter, if you need a login, the form is ftp://username@server.addy.com/07:32
deebuadrift, but more than 70% ppl in india are below poverty line...indians there are wealthy coz they are extremely successful n hardworking...07:32
thoreauputicSilenceGold: connect to server from the places menu is good too07:32
holycowidlemind, thats pretty much it, i would agree with that07:32
idlemindnot outlook -> email but mua -> email and gui -> graphical user interface07:32
noodzhi, i have a weird problem... I just installed Edgy, and I can connect to wireless networks if I enter the SSID manually, but when I run network-admin or wifi-radar, it doesn't see any networks.  I know I'm in an area with at least 10 signals floating around07:32
SurgeXRun it as root07:32
idleminduntil that message gets across to ppl then we're fighting an up=hill battle of he-said-she-said07:32
noodzi did07:32
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SurgeXstrange07:33
SilentDisthoreauputic, good point.  I'm just so 'used to' it at this point, direct text entry is just easier for me.  i forget not everyone has been at this for years :)07:33
noodzyeah, I didn't have this problem in earlier versions07:33
jengc0i1un_operateur: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38740/07:33
SurgeXI got Edgy I put mu SSID in the setup07:33
thoreauputicSilentDis: yes - I use lftp - or actually more often scp07:33
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noodzright, but what if I don't know the SSID, I should be able to see a list07:34
noodzit just won't show it07:34
J-_merry christmas everyone =D 1 hour 33 minutes into christmas =)07:34
cmwebIS their any possible way to install ubuntu on a system with a 64MB ram?07:34
SilentDisJ-_, happy Chrismahanukwanzakah!07:34
adriftdeebu, i agree with that. and though i knew that with a population that's second only to what... China, the statistics for poverty are going to be waaay up there. figured if you had a computer at all, you were on of the lucky few, no?07:34
SurgeXyes use Xfce07:34
SurgeXXubuntu07:34
noodzis there a console program (maybe one of the iw-s?) that will do it?07:34
J-_=)07:34
SilentDis!xubuntu | cmweb07:34
ubotucmweb: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"07:34
holycownoodz, sounds like your wireless card doesn't actually work07:34
SurgeXcmweb use Xubuntu07:34
slickyJ-_:  christmas was over for like 7 hours and 37 minutes ;D07:34
holycownoodz, are you sure its supported?07:34
thoreauputiccmweb: yes, but you need to start from a bare bones install ( text/cli)07:34
carlfk_lapSilentDis: thanks.  envoy worked.  pretty cool07:34
SilentDiscmweb:  you'll need the alternate install disk, but it should run :)07:35
J-_slicky: hmm, which part of world are you in?07:35
cmwebon the system is currently Windows 98 i have the ubuntu 6.06 LTS disk07:35
SurgeXcmweb download the alternate cd07:35
thoreauputicSilenceGold: even xubuntu will struggle on 64 MB07:35
noodzholycow: i'm connected to a wireless network right now, and it has worked in every previous version of ubuntu right out of the box, so to say07:35
cmwebthe cdrom does not accept cdrw07:35
SilentDiscarlfk_lap, no troubles.  I rather like that little tool :)07:35
cmwebor cdr for that matter07:35
K^Holtzmy videos that im playing on youtube are being rather sketchy.. is there something i dont have set up properly?07:35
slickyJ-_:  sweden ;P  you?07:35
noodzholycow: it just won't see connections unless i manually specify the SSID07:35
J-_ah shoot, this is not the off topic channel, sorry.. #ubuntu-offtopic =D (Canada)07:36
holycownoodz, thats weird.  i'm not sure how to go about solving that one07:36
thoreauputicJ-_: it's Christmas - so i won't kick you for being OT ;)07:36
cmwebXubntu?07:36
cmwebhttp://www.xubuntu.org/get07:37
noodzholycow: does one of the iw- command line programs have an option for listing available SSID's? Maybe that would work07:37
thoreauputicwell, not yet anyway ;)07:37
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K^Holtzhow do i check if i have the accelerated graphics for my nvidea set up right?07:37
K^Holtztheres that collored circle program or something like that...07:37
slickyJ-_: big deal :P :)07:37
J-_thoreauputic: Thanks, Merry christmas =D07:37
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jengc0i1http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38742/07:37
thoreauputicJ-_: same to you :)07:37
cmwebmy system is 64MB not 12807:37
SilentDisK^Holtz, in a terminal, type the following:  glxinfo | grep direct07:38
daishadarneed some help- when installing ubuntu, it fails to load the live version; the x server gives me a "virtual screen too big for memory" error07:38
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holycownoodz, i don't know, an alternative for scanning for networks is kizmet.  it is supposed to be top of the line for network scanning.  maybe try that?  but thats not a real answer, the network manager should show that info for you07:38
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thoreauputicdaishadar: specs? RAM?07:38
_goofy_is it possible to limit a NIC to just acces a the internet not the LAN07:38
daishadaris there a way to change the xorg.conf file when booting07:38
deebuadrift, i am one of the lucky few....but i really think a nive video card si a luxury..07:38
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K^HoltzSilentDis: whoa.. lots of MISSING GLX display messages07:39
SilentDisK^Holtz, if it says "yes", you're set.  if you want to do a fast 'benchmark' of sorts, you can run glxgears -printfps, to get a quicky 'demo' as it were07:39
daishadarPentium 3 600, 256 MB RAM, SiS graphics card (8MB I belive)?07:39
cmwebhow do i download xubuntu07:39
zspada15_!xubuntu | cmweb07:39
ubotucmweb: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"07:39
K^HoltzXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".07:39
K^HoltzError: couldn't find RGB GLX visual07:39
cmwebIm their and i dont see the download07:39
SilentDisK^Holtz, then it's not setup, apparently lol.  were you trying the binary blob drivers?07:39
zspada15_cmweb: what os are you on now?07:39
cmwebubuntu :0P07:39
cmweb:-P07:39
thoreauputicdaishadar: sounds OK - try booting "recover/rescue" mode - and then run dpk-reconfigure xserver-xorg at the root prompt07:40
SurgeXcmweb: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/6.10/release/xubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso07:40
thoreauputicum dpkg-reconfigure07:40
K^HoltzSilentDis: im not sure what ur talking about.. i know i had them set up properly, i think it got messed up when i upgraded to edgy07:40
cmwebi cant download this07:40
SurgeXwhy?07:40
cmwebdialup wont support it07:40
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cmweb600 Mb will take 2 weeks07:40
SurgeXShipit is not available for Xubuntu :P07:40
adriftholycow, most windows users "do" have all kinds of spyware and viruses on their computers. i work at a local pc repair shop and that 's 80 percent of the stuff that comes in, and even though you don't run into a whole lot of that crap with linux (i'm assuming so far), even with spybot, adaware, avg, people still don't know how to run a computer. it's still not intuitive to the average joe for whatever reason. mostly because they choose no07:41
adriftt to maintain what they have. they think of a computer like it's a tv, not a car. so they don't go ahead and do simple stuff like run spybot and defrag a couple times a month with windows. either people need to overcome ignorance (which isn't going to happen unless it's taught in public schools) or they need something that just "works". I don't see any reason why someone can't plug in a computer with linux running and it just always "work07:41
adrifts", because we're so close with this tech, but for some reason we still have to run the terminal for whatever reason :D07:41
SilentDisK^Holtz, I recommend the envy script to a lot of people setting up their nvidia drivers. it just works.07:41
daishadarthoreauputic, thanks, i'll try it out and ping you if i have more questions :) (newbie)07:41
thoreauputicdaishadar: if you can't install from the desktop CD try the alternate CD07:41
SilentDis!envy | K^Holtz07:41
ubotuK^Holtz: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy07:41
cmwebSo i need some way to use ubuntu 6.06 on a 64 MB machine07:41
thoreauputicdaishadar: 256MB is on the efge for the desktop CD07:41
holycowadrift, *nog* TOOOTALY agree with that07:41
thoreauputic*edge07:41
holycowadrift, oh totall.  what is happening is that we have the technolgoy07:42
daishadarthoreauputic, oh, will the alternate CD run faster?07:42
K^HoltzSilentDis: does it only set up the nvidea drivers or is it one of those package deals07:42
holycowadrift, what we are busy doing as we can is build the gui interfaces to the subsystems07:42
mike__i have a issue, PM me if you would like to help07:42
holycowits going to take a while07:42
thoreauputicdaishadar: the alternate is install only - but it uses less RAM07:42
cmwebAny one got any idead? is their away to install it with out gnome?07:42
mike__i have a issue, PM me if you would like to help07:43
holycowadrift, i totally see users the same way.  they want a fancy tv basically.  what i do is just do with the home users here is just lock them down07:43
cmweb!ask07:43
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:43
thoreauputicdaishadar: i.e. you can only use the alternate CD to install to the hard drive07:43
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SilentDisK^Holtz, it will download and install the 'official' drivers from nvidia.com, get all the packages you need to install them properly, and make sure it's setup right.  it's NOT like automatix or anything like that, it doesn't modify package files.  it uses the package manager to make sure it gets setup properly, and gets the .run file direct from nvidia for you.07:43
holycowi'm oversimplifying but mostly when you load up a ton of free games and the basics they are very happy07:43
cmwebljl, come back07:43
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cmwebWTF07:44
cmwebIm pulling 12KB out of this line07:44
cmwebHOLY CRAP07:44
mike__Dail up?07:44
cmwebyes07:44
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mike__<-- FiOS07:44
adriftholycow, so do you think we're that far out from actually having a free gui that will take care of the average guy on the street who sees this as that fancy tv?07:44
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SurgeXHey, Does Ubuntu support the Intel Graphics Media Accelerator (900)?07:45
zspada15_cmweb: thats amazing07:45
daishadarthoreauputic, got it. that's probably more of what i wanted, but i'll try this first07:45
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zspada15_i was pulling 2000 kb at school07:45
holycowadrift, i don't think there is an 'average guy on the street' unfortunately07:45
cmwebEstimated time for the xubuntu is 17Hours07:45
SurgeXwow07:45
holycowadrift, there are A LOT of subgroups to that demographic i think07:45
K^HoltzSilentDis: sounds pretty convenient..07:45
SurgeXLeave it you got no choice :P07:45
zspada15_cmweb: shit07:45
zspada15_cmweb: where do you live?07:45
cmwebHolt, florida07:46
holycowadrift, we haveto do better to define the sub demographic and go after each one individually07:46
zspada15_cmweb: i'd mail you xubuntu cd, but i dont know07:46
adrifthow would we do that?07:46
SilentDisK^Holtz, it is.  i ran into one small problem with it ONE TIME, and the 'fix' was just to run the script again.07:46
cmwebdamn their must be no one on the server tonight07:46
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holycowadrift, research unfortunately07:46
bazfooI should make a t-shirt that says "average guy on the street"07:46
adriftbazfoo, lol07:46
cmwebzspada15_: want a cd in return or 307:46
thoreauputicdaishadar: 600mhz and 256MB *should* run the live CD - bt I think for installing the alternate is safer ( you might get RAM issues with the graphical installer)07:46
holycowheh07:47
zspada15_cmweb: i'll do it for you within the next week07:47
K^HoltzSilentDis: i installed the package.. did u say i run it through synaptec?07:47
SilentDisbazfoo:  i'm wearing my "i'm part of the problem" t-shirt right now...07:47
zspada15_cmweb: dont send me a cd, i dont need them07:47
zspada15_cmweb: gramma just bought me a hundred pack of cdrs07:47
adriftI think there are more "average guys on the street" than most computer savvy people think. i know in my shop that the majority of folks who come in have zero clue.07:47
cmwebzspada15_: so did mine :-P07:47
zspada15_cmweb: really?07:47
cmwebzspada15_: yeah and now i got them stacked in my closet07:48
zspada15_cmweb: hehe07:48
holycowadrift, its not the zero clue part that worries me.  what i think is really important to understand is what they want to do with computers07:48
zspada15_hp?07:48
idlemindsilentDis: LOL sounds like a sweet shirt07:48
zspada15_cmweb: join #spad-rc07:48
SilentDisK^Holtz, after you download the package, dbl click it, and install it.  once it's on your system, you'll have to switch to a straight terminal (ctrl-f1), and do a sudo envy.  it'll take care of the rest for you.  (it kills x, gdm, etc)07:48
daishadarthoreauputic, is it just that the live version requires more RAM? and after i install (with either live or alternate) i'll be ok?07:48
drbreenanyone here tried to get sugar on ubutnu running ?07:48
SilentDisidlemind:  http://www.tshirthell.com/ - some of the shirts are quite funny... others are quite offensive.  ymmv ;)07:49
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thoreauputicdaishadar: shoud be fine - but I strongly suggest the alternate CD for installing07:49
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adriftholycow, well the younger generation is a bit more savvy, but with ipod being a number 1 seller (for example) people just want to plug in and play.07:49
daishadarthoreauputic, ok, i'll give that a shot instead07:49
thoreauputicdaishadar: the problem lies with the installer, not the distro as such07:49
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thoreauputicdaishadar: the graphical *installer* uses more resources07:50
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holycowadrift, i think we would find that between engineers, doctors, lawyers, labourers, all of them have different software requireements07:50
daishadarthoreauputic, oh, yikes. got it07:50
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thoreauputicdaishadar: merry Christmas ;)07:50
holycowadrift, the basic online experience is covered, but you know when the engineer asks you if he can load up engineering software what do you say?07:50
daishadarthoreauputic, haha thanks, you too ;)07:51
thoreauputic:)07:51
mike__im having issues installing fonts, PM if me if you would like to help07:51
SilentDis!ask | mike__07:51
ubotumike__: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:51
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mike__i would rather do it in PM07:51
hope13i can't see people lol07:51
thoreauputicmike__: keep your questions in channel so everyone can learn07:51
PORDOi can't find this package: gstreamer0.10-vorbis07:52
hope13brb07:52
PORDOam i missing a source or something?07:52
thoreauputic!msg07:52
ubotuPlease ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.07:52
PORDOdo you guys find it in apt-cache?07:52
SilentDisPORDO, I think that's in either universe or multiverse...07:52
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ubotupordo: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:53
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ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl07:53
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about graphics - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:53
mike__!fonts07:53
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer07:53
holycowmike__, just make sure the fontws are supported07:53
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holycowand put them in your .fonts dir in your home dir07:53
holycowmike__, its pretty much that simple07:54
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adriftholycow, true, but what about that woman i had in my shop the other day who was still using her typewriter and the library to make copies who doesn't want the hassle of downloading adobe whatever or buy Word in order to type up a document. should they be forced to learn tech? by now all of this should be second nature to folks. Even I find it difficult to figure out how to do things in Windows, not to mention Ubuntu in order to do even th07:54
adrifte simplest of tasks. Like i said, the ability to make all of this intuitive is out there, but for whatever reason we still have to make sure they enter a password just to log in. That's insanity (for them anyways).07:54
b0redhi. i have intel core2 cpu... so it supports 64bits... which version of ubuntu do i download?07:54
hope13i can't see the list of user for some reason07:54
holycowadrift, absolutely07:54
hope13you dl the 64 bit version iso07:54
holycowadrift, i think there A LOT of people like that07:55
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holycowadrift, i might even try to service those people directly07:55
jengc0i1holycow:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38742/07:55
b0redhope13, but it's written for amd on the site For computers based on the AMD64 or EM64T architecture (e.g., Athlon64, Opteron, EM64T Xeon). It is not necessary for all (even most) processors made by AMD -- only their 64 bit chips07:55
holycowadrift, except there is a problem they are WAAAAY too cheap07:55
holycowadrift, i've helped out millionaires that balked at $80/hr service fees07:55
PORDOSilentDis what does this have to do with restricted formats?!07:55
adriftholycow, good point07:55
jengc0i1b0red: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38742/07:55
hope13i thought intel 64 bit ALU is basing it on AMD07:55
PORDOvorbis is non-proprietary.07:55
holycowadrift, in the end they are the cause of their own mysery -_-07:55
hope13i guess i'm wrong07:56
hope13sorry07:56
holycowadrift, and they alwyas think you are trying to upsell them on something too, heh07:56
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SilentDisPORDO, i THINK the vorbis library got shoved into the universe or multiverse repos.  let me check right quick...07:56
hope13i don't have the user window on xchat anyone know how to enable it?07:56
adriftholycow, often, that's because they expect something simple out of something advance, that's why we have advancements in technology, to make life simple and well... cheap07:56
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K^HoltzSilentDis: i dont think it worked so well07:56
holycowadrift, heh07:57
SilentDisK^Holtz, what happened?07:57
b0redhmm hope13?07:57
PORDOdeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy universe multiverse07:57
PORDOdeb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy universe multiverse07:57
holycowadrift, mostly we have poorly engineered solutions to poorly thought out problems BECAUSE the clients are not interested/don't have time to really make the right decision07:57
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K^HoltzSilentDis: i ran it, and it just went to a black screen, and i could type anything and it wouldnt come out of it.. i hit a CTRL F1 a bunch of times while i was in there and it finally rebooted07:57
bazfooadrift: if you have an idea for eliminating passwords please let me know07:57
K^Holtzwhen i got back into ubuntu, i ran that command again, and it didnt work07:57
jengc0i1PORDO: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38742/07:57
sushi_anyone know a command line to instantly generate a hot girlfriend for me who will do anything i tell her to do ?  plz help thx07:57
Arigato!grub07:57
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto07:57
K^Holtzthe command to test it07:57
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hope13bored: on xchat program i don't have the window with the list of user; do you know how to enable it?07:58
mike__ok now i have another issue, how do i make it so my newly installed fonts veiwable on my desktop?07:58
SilentDisK^Holtz, i tried to say the instructions before you left... you must've missed 'em :)07:58
K^HoltzSilentDis: ic.. what were the instructions? i just typed sudo envy and let it run07:58
holycowadrift, so what ends up having is that because clients cannot understand the problem or solution, they put a premium on price.  they think that being cheap is an okay way to solve a problem, and it just results in them ending up with crappy solutions07:58
adriftyeah, that's not how it works unfortunately. the 60 year old guy i work with wants a computer that you just plug in and use, he wants the cell phone that has no extra features, you just turn on, dial up and talk. i want these things to, and like i said, its not nearly out of the realm of possibility to bring these things to customers, but for whatever reason, noone delivers07:58
holycowadrift, thus they are the cause of their own mysery07:58
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holycowadrift, totally07:59
SilentDisK^Holtz, after you install the package, hit ctrl-f1.  log into that terminal.  THEN run sudo envy.  envy will kill off the x windows system, gdm, and any other graphical stuff running.  it will THEN install the driver for you, and offer to restart gdm at the end of the process.07:59
mchAnybody: is it possible to install off of the 5.10 live CD?07:59
mike__ok now i have another issue, how do i make it so my newly installed fonts veiwable on my desktop?07:59
K^Holtzctrl F1 doesnt do anything for me if i hit it right now07:59
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SilentDisK^Holtz, aargh, i am so sorry, i rebound my keys.  ctrl-alt-f108:00
holycowadrift, and the frustrating part is you can't really do anything to get them to understand.  they glaze over at a multisylable sentence08:00
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K^HoltzSilentDis: ok, ill try that08:00
K^Holtzbrb08:00
sushi_hey anyone know the ubuntu apt-get command for a nice 19 y/o08:00
_goofy_is there a way to seperate a shared internet connection and  LAN connection between 2 NIC's08:01
hope13sweet i got it to work08:01
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sushi_mch: yes08:01
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hope13can i ask help about aiglx here or do i have to go to the xgl channel?08:02
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mchsushi_: any details how? booting into the live os failed to provide any links/options for install. Any suitable links?08:02
SenesenceVLC won't play my DVD's, I already got the libdvdcss2 and all the codecs. Anyone got any idea what the problem could be here?08:02
n2diyhope13: go for it.08:02
hope13yay08:02
PORDOI would KILL if someone here could help me figure out how to get dmix working on my ICH5 ac97 setup.08:03
hope13i was reading the howto compiz +aiglx on edgy08:03
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PORDOi'm going to have an aneurysm -- i've been working on it all weekend.08:03
hope13and i don't get this: Warning !! compiz-quinn-aiglx and compiz-vanilla-aiglx are now deprecated !Gnome Compiz Manager replace them !08:03
adriftholycow, yeah. i agree. so more or less, i could hook up my parents with a fully operational system in say... Ubuntu, it just takes the time and dedication to set that system up. I mean... i'd love to do that for them, but then i have to contend (not only the time it would take to do that) but having them integrate the newly acquired knowledge with that that they face at work with windows 2000 or ME lol08:03
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hope13what does that mean? lol08:04
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holycowadrift, a bit yes.  one needs to install flash, codecs, games and lots of various niceties *nod*08:04
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pianoboy3333How do I get chanserv to join my channel?08:04
chimereHi, is there any GUI interface for VisualBoyAdvance for linux like in windows? (sorry bad english)08:04
jercosThere's VBA express08:05
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SenesenceIf you try to fast forward through your DVD's in totem, the whole thing freezes.08:05
thoreauputicpianoboy3333: ping a staffer I suppose08:06
pianoboy3333oh08:06
ademanis there any program that reads or imports power tab files?08:06
sushi_mch im sorry the live cd and the install cd are different on breezy.08:06
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chimereeuh, not that one jercos, i wanted the menus just like in windows where we can find OAM viewer and other functionnalities... (bad bad english)08:06
mchsushi_ as I thought, thanks all the same08:06
adriftholycow, sigh, well hopefully in the not to distant future we'll have something that will incorporate all of those things into a distro :D08:07
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holycowadrift, you have it08:07
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holycowits ubuntu08:07
holycow:)08:07
sciboyBugga!08:07
adriftlol, more or less08:07
SenesenceI can't play my DVD's :(08:07
sciboyMy computer finally became unstable.08:07
adriftjust gotta make sure they don't have a system that doesn't have 64 bit technology like me :D08:08
holycowsciboy, what does that mean exactly?08:08
sciboyholycow: I did a bunch of stuff i wasn't suppose to and it's freezing often for a year of abuse.08:08
holycowlol08:08
sciboyafter a year*08:08
holycowsciboy, well look at it this way08:08
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sushi_Senesence I use VLC with the restricted modules library installed08:08
pianoboy3333thoreauputic: easier than that actually08:08
Naik0Hello ive installed Candido GTK+2 Engine with "sudo dpkg -i package_name.deb"08:08
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holycowif you reinstall you don't haveto 'ask permission' from redmon to actually use what you own08:08
holycow:)08:08
fowlduckMerry Christmas and goodnight08:08
thoreauputicpianoboy3333: ?08:08
sushi_Senesence restricted formats08:08
Naik0am i finished now?08:09
pianoboy3333thoreauputic: lol08:09
holycowsciboy, thats the best way to learn, be prepared to hose a systme and just giver08:09
pianoboy3333thoreauputic: I'm not sharing my secrets ;)08:09
jercosI just recently used the install/live CD for ubuntu dapper to expand my root partiton (ext3 from around 6 GB to around 30-ish GB) and now I have the exact same amount of free space (close to 1 GB). sudo du -s /* doesnt show nearly enough to account for 37 GB of data... any ideas what could be the problem?08:09
Senesencesushi_: I have VLC, and also libdvdcss2 all the codecs (easy ubuntu), but VLC won't play it.08:09
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sciboyI saw it coming, but anyway since i'm doing a fresh install, i'm wondering what kind of desktop environment i should go for this time.08:09
thoreauputicpianoboy3333: I don't need your secrets - i can talk to nalioth or rob :)08:09
sciboyUp till now i've been using XFCE4 + Rox-filer.08:09
pianoboy3333thoreauputic: fine... /msg chanserv set <channel> guard on08:10
thoreauputicpianoboy3333: cool :)08:10
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hope13um i'm trying to install AIGLX08:11
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Naik0how can i see what GTK+2 Engine i use?08:11
thoreauputicpianoboy3333: since I have no intention of setting up a channel I can forget that immendiately ;p08:11
hope13i'm editing the sources.list and it doesn't work08:11
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adrifthow would you go about backing up so that these thing don't get completely hosed. Windows has the Restore feature which barely works half the time. is there something in Ubuntu that does a similar job?08:11
thoreauputichope13: um08:11
hope13am i suppose to put "wget http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/root@lupine.me.uk.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -"?08:11
GuLrsanyone knows any sfv checker gui for linux?08:11
hope13in the list?08:11
thoreauputic!doesn't work08:11
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sciboyShould i continue using ReiserFS?08:12
thoreauputicsciboy: why not?08:12
holycowsciboy, i stopped using it as soon as i heard about the issue08:12
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mheynhalllo08:12
sciboyWhat issue would that be?08:12
thoreauputicholycow: enlighten me08:12
holycowsciboy, there are only maintainers for it, reiser3 is no longer supported and reiser4 is not fully in the kernel08:12
Naik0how can i see what GTK+2 Engine i use?08:12
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holycowthoreauputic, thats what my reading on it reveals08:12
adriftalso, what is the most user friendly distro in Linux? right now it seems to be Ubuntu.08:12
adriftis that correct?08:13
adriftagain, for the average joe08:13
thoreauputicholycow: hmm - Reiser himself has problems and is selling his company, yeah08:13
n2diyhope13: adrift,  yep08:13
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holycowuntil we see someone pick up reiser and run with it, its only going to be code that dies a slow death08:13
GuLrsanyone knows any sfv checker GUI for linux?08:13
adriftn2diy, OK that's what i thought08:13
bazfoodid he bail out of jail or is he still there?08:13
thoreauputicholycow: I expect some people will pick it up though ( the fs)08:13
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holycowthoreauputic, yeah :/ sad i loved reiser08:13
sciboyNot the easiest, but certainly the most friendly, there are other ones that come pre installed with everything assuming the user doesn't have a clue.08:13
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holycowthoreauputic, i would hope so, i really enjoyed it08:14
hope13am i suppose to put "wget http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/root@lupine.me.uk.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -" in the source.list for AIGLX?08:14
sciboyholycow: What do you use now?08:14
n2diyadrift, I don't know what your doing, but go for it.08:14
thoreauputicholycow: I hear ext4 is on the way though08:14
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adrifti seem to see a lot of linux users who seem to denigrate ubuntu because of all the add-ons. is there another distro that you'd all recommend?08:15
holycowi decided ext3 was the way because it has the most robust file system toolset08:15
jercosAnybody have any ideas as to why there would be 30 GB of unaccounted for space taken up in an ext3 partition?08:15
thoreauputichope13: that is a command - not something that goes in the file08:15
sciboyThe addons is a good thing, it gives you better control over customisation08:15
holycowthoreauputic, yeah, ext4 isn't a huge gain though, i would love to see someone take reiser 4 and really do a number on the fs tools08:15
hope13oh thank you lol08:15
thoreauputichope13: it is to get the gpg keys08:15
sciboyI personally don't need the kitchen sink by default.08:15
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sushi_#ubuntu-offtopic ?08:16
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sciboyOh, and if i'm going to save all i can from my current reiserfs, what's the command again?08:16
holycowjust save off /home and reinstall as whatever and restore /home08:17
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sushi_What's the command for the cute warm christmas elf?08:17
adriftsciboy, that's what i thought, but seems i've heard complaints that ubuntu's add-ons take away from the ability of total customization. i've only ever used debian based linux products (specifically ubuntu and kubuntu) I know that Redhat was all the rage not long ago. what are the major disadvantages between Debian and the others?08:17
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wantamadMerry Christmas!08:18
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jaMerry Christmas wantamad.08:18
wantamadanybody know how to upgrade xorg 7.0 to xorg 7.1?08:18
thoreauputicadrift: you can customise Ubuntu asmuch as you like08:18
thoreauputicadrift: where did you hear otherwise?08:18
holycowadrift, its basically debian08:19
holycowadrift, what are 'addon's your talking about anyway?08:19
hope13=] 08:19
thoreauputicwantamad: what does 7.1 do that 7.0 doesn't do for you?08:19
holycowadrift, there are only packages, you install them then remove them, tahts it08:19
hope13i got AIGLX to work thx u08:19
adriftthoreauputic, people on Digg.com seem to be the major complainers08:19
hope13thx u thxu08:19
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sciboyadrift: I can't really make a point for point comparison, but the main advantage for Debian distro's is the fact that alot of the tools are centered around the APT tool, if i want for example to get the latest nvidia drivers i use 'module-assistant auto-install nvidia' it'll automatically apt the drivers and build a package and install it for me.08:19
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thoreauputicadrift: and how knowledgeable are the complainers, do you think?08:20
wantamad7.1 has aiglx built-in. it makes beryl run on less cpu usage08:20
adrifti'd say... probably moderately to advanced08:20
sciboyadrift: There is no such thing as an unbiased opinion though, i've been using Debian for 5 years and counting now.08:20
thoreauputicwantamad: OK - I don't know what the edgy version is to be honest08:21
PORDOdebian needs to stop using Condorcet elections, and switch to range voting.08:21
holycowadrift, on digg.com all i see is praise for ubuntu08:21
PORDOhttp://rangevoting.org/Debian2003.html08:21
holycowadrift, which frankly i was surprsed considering you and i know EXACTLY what sorts of users they are :)08:21
sciboyadrift: I highly recommend Ubuntu, it's friendly without being crippled in any way.08:21
thoreauputicadrift: people from non debian distros often don't understand the Debian Way (tm)08:21
jal08:21
adriftsciboy, well as far as i can tell, according to time lines and what not... seems that most folks find Debian to be ahead of the curve only just recently. and that eventually something bigger and better will come along with one of the older or other distros08:21
PORDOI hate how ubuntu is all african themed.  I want something blue and european feeling...something very empirialist.08:21
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wantamadim still using dapper. i dont want to upgrade to edgy yet. i just want to update xorg to 7.108:22
cstrippie#beryl08:22
cstrippieoops08:22
bazfooI think red hat is somewhat favored by corporations08:22
holycowadrift, actually no08:22
PORDObazfoo well that makes sense.08:22
sciboyadrift: What difference does the past and the future make? Look at the solutions available to you now.08:22
PORDOi'd absolutely _kill_ to get my sound working with dmix in ubuntu.  alsa is a nightmare.08:22
thoreauputicwantamad: sound like a recipe for headaches to me08:22
holycowadrift, debian has been ahead of the game for a fairly long time.  pretty much ever since apt/dpkg came around08:22
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cstrippiebazfoo - based on the quarterlies just issued, I'd say Red Hat s doing *extremely* well at the corp. level.08:22
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sciboyadrift: I'll agree there has been huge improvements in usability since i started, with that said i don't see it getting any worse any time soon;08:23
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PORDOhey someone help me out here: sudo apt-cache search gstreamer | grep vorbis08:23
PORDOgstreamer0.8-vorbis - Vorbis plugin for GStreamer08:23
PORDOwhy can't i find 0.10?08:23
skrollis there a way in ubuntu to use a local drive in a vmware player virtual machine?08:23
PORDOi need vorbis support for my music.08:23
thoreauputicPORDO: are you on edgy?08:23
PORDOyup08:23
adriftholycow, ok, well good. that's sorta what i wanted to know.08:24
thoreauputicPORDO: have you installed vorbis-tools ?08:24
thoreauputic!vorbis-tools08:24
ubotuvorbis-tools: several Ogg Vorbis tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.1-5 (edgy), package size 92 kB, installed size 728 kB08:24
wantamadi agree thoreauputic. its just that i want beryl to run faster08:24
PORDOthoreauputic good point.08:24
hope13does beryl and aiglx takes up a lot of resources?08:24
wantamadxgl and beryl takes a lot of cpu share08:25
wantamadfor me08:25
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adriftTo tell the truth, i've always found IRC chats more complicated than they have to be, but with XChat and this channel, i feel pretty comfortable to ask questions to you all and getting straight answers that i often can't get even in online forums08:25
thoreauputicwantamad: I don't know for sure, but I think edgy probably uses a newer libc6 - so you would be looking at some serious breakage I suspect08:25
PORDOthoreauputic doesn't work.  i still need the gstreamer plugins.08:25
wantamadyea. ill try edgy out08:25
PORDOi feel trapped though adrift, because i just have this...sort of "basic' question about getting dmix working, and i can't find the answer anywhere.  i use forums, i ask in #alsa... nothing works.08:26
thoreauputicPORDO: if you have lots of room, install all the gstreamer plugins ;) sudo apt-get install gstreamer*08:26
PORDOi've spent the past two weekends on it.08:26
hope13how do i check cpu usage?08:26
hope13=] 08:26
PORDOthoreauputic they don't exist.08:26
sciboyPORDO: What about Dmix?08:26
PORDOthoreauputic so my sources.list must be messed up.08:26
thoreauputicPORDO: ah08:26
PORDOsciboy i can't get dmix working for my ICH508:26
holycowadrift, lol, actually the ops are all doing the xmas thing08:26
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holycowadrift, most of our conversation has been waaaay offtopice08:26
wantamadi use a system monitor called conky08:26
thoreauputic!easysource | PORDO08:26
ubotuPORDO: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic08:26
sciboyPORDO: You need to be more specific than that.08:26
cstrippiehope13 - Beryl was painfully slow on my old laptop (3.2ghzP4 w/Radeion 9800), but appears to have no real effect on my current lappie (2ghz Core2Duo w/ATI X1400)08:26
holycowmostly the q/a's are limited to technical answers08:26
PORDOthoreauputic http://rangevoting.org/Debian2003.html08:27
PORDOoops08:27
PORDOsudo apt-cache search gstreamer | grep vorbis08:27
PORDOgstreamer0.8-vorbis - Vorbis plugin for GStreamer08:27
sciboyPORDO: First step to finding a solution is knowing the cause of the problem.08:27
PORDOi don't find gstreamer0.10-vorbis08:27
thoreauputicPORDO: yes I saw that already08:27
PORDOsciboy okay, so what's the cause of my problem?08:27
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adriftPORDO, yeah, occasionally i get unanswerable questions like that too, you just have to dig a bit deeper or stay on chats like this long enough and eventually someone comes up with the solution08:27
hope13oh08:27
thoreauputicPORDO: what exactly are you doing (ie there may be a diferent answer)08:27
SuperLag/lastlog is your friend08:28
cstrippiehope - the general consensus was that the Radeon 9800, not the P4 was the problem08:28
adriftholycow, i realize that lol. still, like you said before, sometimes knowing the why helps understanding the how08:28
sciboyPORDO: For the record you don't need to use grep, apt-cache search gstreamer vorbis should work fine.08:28
sciboyPORDO: Oh and apt-cache shouldn't require superuser priveleges either.08:28
hope13o08:28
thoreauputicPORDO: phrase your question as "I want to do X"08:28
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PORDOsciboy http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32464208:29
hope13cstrippie: oh thx, i'm running on celeron m intel integrated graphic card; I think it's running ok08:29
PORDOi didn't realize apt-cache didn't need superuser.08:29
PORDOnet.08:29
PORDOneat08:29
PORDOthoreauputic http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32464208:29
PORDOthat's my asound.conf issue.08:29
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cstrippiehope - np - ATI drivers seem to have a somewhat bad reputation for beryl/aiglx08:29
PORDOi have my digital optical out, and my analog out working...just not with dmix, so each one can only be used by one app at a time.  extremely annoying.08:30
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thoreauputicPORDO: ah - you really need someone like crimsun - I'm no sound person08:30
cstrippieTho, again, my x1400 loves beryl.08:30
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sciboyGuys, what's the recommended way to move the contents of an entire filesystem?08:30
thoreauputicPORDO: have you tried asking on the users mailing list?08:30
hope13um i accidentally close the window lol08:30
PORDOthoreauputic yeah, he has always been the only one who could help me, except he's kind of mean and impatient, even when i try to do exactly what he says.08:30
sciboyCause i know symlinks etc. may cause problems with a normal cp.08:30
thoreauputicPORDO: my experience is the exact opposite08:30
PORDOi don't like the idea of mailing lists.08:30
PORDOi believe in RSS feeds, and forums.08:31
thoreauputicPORDO: your call08:31
sushi_if your box loves composite managers, then you must be running nVidia.08:31
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zomghaxhi08:31
zomghaxbanana08:31
PORDOthoreauputic i'll probably have to wait until i can run into crimsun again.08:31
thoreauputicPORDO: you are losing a valuable resource08:31
PORDOto me, the entire structure of alsa's asound.conf system is archaic.08:31
PORDOit's maddening.08:31
thoreauputicie mailing lists08:31
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PORDOthoreauputic stuff getting sent to me email inbox?!08:31
PORDOcrazy.08:31
adriftholycow, so are you a big Dawkins fan? I started watching the film you directed me too, and am actually restarting it now about 19 minutes in.08:31
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thoreauputicPORDO: over and out: you haven't listened to me08:32
PORDOI emailed richard dawkins once and he wrote me a nice response.08:32
PORDOthoreauputic okay, what's the link to sign up for the list?08:32
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zomghaxhow is this about ubuntu?08:32
PORDOthoreauputic i'll give it a shot.08:32
thoreauputic!lists08:32
ubotumail is another medium to communicate. Ubuntu mailinglists can be found at http://lists.ubuntu.com08:32
holycowadrift, oh totally, the single person that actually has logically organized all of his beliefs08:32
adriftPORDO, really?08:32
PORDOzomghax it's Festivus.  c'mon.08:32
zomghaxlol08:32
zomghaxbut people need help08:32
holycowadrift, the coolest thing about dawkins is you can take his entire belief system, write it down in a list and try to prove/disprove each one of them08:32
PORDOholycow I strive to be like dawkins. :)08:32
holycowadrift, in comparison i feel like a complete retard :)08:32
zomghaxisnt there an admin?08:33
zomghaxbetter watch out08:33
holycowPORDO, i have been influenced to reach the same level of understanding too08:33
zomghaxwatch ur back!08:33
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adriftholycow, really? as a christian, i of course have a few issues with some of his theories :D but i still think the concept of meme's for instance is obviously amazing08:33
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unikonthoreauputic u are a op correct08:33
zomghaxno08:33
holycowlol we should stop indeed08:33
zomghaxChristian?08:33
zomghaxnonono08:33
hope13lol what key is the "super" key on the keyboard? >,> lol08:33
sciboyAnyone recommend Beryl?08:33
PORDOdawkins is good at disassembling the anthropological argument err.. "anthropic" principle, or whatever it's called that theists always try to use.  "the universe looks designed.."08:33
unikon who needs eye candy08:33
hope13i recommend it cuz i just did it08:33
hope13lol08:33
sciboyI'm looking at what desktop environment to try next.08:33
zomghaxits not designed!08:33
sushi_I would like to transmito my internet connection from my laptop, so that my desktop computer can communicate with it, is there a GUI for this?08:34
idlemindis blackbox still in existance?08:34
sushi_Via WiFi08:34
PORDOi love how dawkins puts gould in his place.08:34
hope13took me 20 min but i got it08:34
zomghaxyeah08:34
holycowadrift, i'm impressed you find him informative.  thats cool08:34
zomghaxI saw the blackbox08:34
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thoreauputic!offtopic08:34
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!08:34
zcat[1] ummm.. #ubuntu-offtopic perhaps, guys?08:34
holycowthoreauputic, sorry08:34
zomghaxyeah08:34
zomghaxsee08:34
zomghaxtold ya08:34
hope13where's the super key on the keyboard? lol08:34
thoreauputic--------->> thataway08:34
zomghaxum08:35
zomghaxforgot08:35
hope13one of the beryl shortcut uses a super key08:35
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zcat[1] *place08:35
howieson27good morning and merry christamas can anybody help me i have make a update and my burner is lose in k3b. have anybody the same problem?08:35
zomghaxlose?08:35
PORDOi love how dawkins also says, to hell with this whole science and religion accomodating each other.  you can believe rationally or irrationally, and the two are not compatible.08:35
idlemindLOL08:35
xororandin which repo can i find Liferea (GNOME rss aggregator)?08:35
holycowPORDO, lets continue in offtopic, lets not get you banned here :)08:35
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zomghaxlol08:36
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PORDOreligions make claims beyond morality and such...they go into the empirical world, and how things came to be.  that's science's turf.  so just be ready for a headlock religion.08:36
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zomghaxomg dont tell me08:36
zomghaxthis is religious crap08:36
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ronaldoahello everyone08:36
hope13hi08:36
zomghaxhi08:36
zomghaxwelcome08:36
hope13tell me where the super key is lol08:36
zomghaxto ubuntu support forum08:36
howieson27yes k3b can find it zomghax08:37
zomghaxoh08:37
adriftholycow, of course, "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge" -Hosea 4:608:37
adrift:D08:37
zomghaxawesome08:37
ronaldoahow to configue  opera to support amule?08:37
sushi_How do I set up a wireless network with 2 ubuntu machines that have wifi cards?  I need to set up a SSID and WEP password.08:37
hope13ssh? lol08:38
hope13wait that is for something else >,>08:38
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sushi_hope i hope that is not your solution for my problem =] 08:38
zcat[1] sushi_: system > administration > networking .. hopefully the cards will appear in there already and you just set the options you want.08:38
hope13what if it doesn't?08:39
zcat[1] sushi_: but it depends how well supported your cards are.08:39
hope13does he have to use that wrapper?08:39
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max_does anyone know what KDE's equivilant to Gnomes nautilus is08:39
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zomghaxBANANA108:40
zomghax!08:40
hope13i'll look up my linux for dummies for your answer one sec08:40
bazfoomax_: konquerer i think08:40
hope13oh nm08:40
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zigothello good people of ubuntu :)08:40
zomghaxhi08:40
zomghaxwelcome08:40
zigotthanks ... my first time here08:41
Flannelmax_: konqueror08:41
zomghax=D08:41
zcat[1] If the cards are not well supported, my best advice is to try and return them, and make it clear that you're returning them due to lack of linux support. And get some well supported cards as a replacement :)08:41
zigotjust checking it out08:41
zomghaxits quite crowded08:41
zomghaxas you can see08:41
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elkbuntuzigot, we have a general chat channel over at #ubuntu-offtopic :) this channel is for support08:41
zigotis it?08:41
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elkbuntuwe prefer to keep it that way, at least :)08:42
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zcat[1] zigot: within reason...08:42
adriftok folks, i'm out of here. have a merry Christmas, i have many more questions, but i suppose those are for another day. take care.08:42
zigotok sorry for the noise.... I do have one tech question while I'm here08:42
raxipHi08:42
zomghaxlates08:42
juanchito2006!ATi08:42
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:42
sushi_Ok... right now I am receiving internet from my wireless router, but I want to transmit from my antenna another SSID for others to connect to my computer and access the internet from me08:42
zigotmay I shoot my question?08:43
zomghaxjust do08:43
zomghaxit takes time for the response tho08:43
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zigotcool.... namely, I have a problem with some popular media standards08:43
zcat[1] !codecs08:43
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:43
zomghaxuse vlc08:44
zigotI understand why.... but I don't quite understand how to solve it (you are guessing most of the popular formats are not playing)08:44
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Flannelzigot: you install the codecs, the first link there provides instructions on installing them08:44
zcat[1] zigot: I generally just install mplayer + w32codecs + libdvdcss2 -- anything that doesn't play after that probably doesn't play in windows either..08:45
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d00dos[Linux 2.6.18-3-686 i686]  distro[Debian 4.0]  cpu[1 x Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.66GHz @ 2.66GHz]  mem[Physical : 1010MB, 88.9% free]  disk[Total : 18.02GB, 66.20% Free]  video[nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] ]  sound[] 08:45
Naik0how can i see what GTK+2 Engine iam using right now?08:46
zigotthanks fellas... I'll jump on it08:46
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colkim trying to install the latest ubuntu on a dell e1505 and it gets part way through boot and then seems to freeze initlazing the intel 394508:46
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zomghaxcorrupt cd?08:47
colksays its supported but it refuses to initlaize08:47
zcat[1] colk: obvious stuff first; did you check the md5 sum and self-test the CD ?08:47
Flannelcolk: did you burn at 4x?08:47
zomghaxdid you use a cd drive?08:47
zspada15_0mgh4x08:47
colkusing dvd drive08:47
zomghaxlol08:48
zomghaxthats why08:48
zomghaxhello08:48
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zomghaxneed to be cd08:48
zomghaxbut all wells08:48
zomghaxyou can try08:48
colkits dvd/cdrom08:48
zomghaxonly like 2/10 cd succeeded when I tried08:48
zomghaxthen its good!08:48
zcat[1] zomghax: seriously; what DVD drive would ever cause an install to fail?08:48
Flannelcolk: check your md5, burn at 4x08:49
colkim using a dvd r08:49
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colkchecking integrity now08:49
zomghaxum myn08:49
zomghaxI did same burn08:49
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rcrookok... I have got everything I want to use on my laptop expect the Belkin USB Frame grabber.08:49
zomghaxfor each08:49
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zcat[1] zomghax: well anyhoo... if it pases the integrity check that should be a nonissue anyhow...08:50
zomghaxI checked each08:50
zomghaxI used my cd burned and it burned all 10 succeesfullly08:51
zomghaxburner *08:51
zcat[1] weird. Not a problem I've seen before...08:51
zcat[1] was that a CD image burned to a DVD ?08:51
zomghaxcs08:51
zomghaxcd08:51
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zomghaxim not that stupid =/08:52
zcat[1] hmmmm, ok08:52
zomghaxI tried 4 systems08:52
zcat[1] Sorry.. I mean was it the regular 700M ISO made for a CD, not the bigger one for DVD's... I'm still not sure there's any significant difference in them other than size.08:53
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ocletis there a way08:53
ocletto install08:53
ocletnongui08:53
ocleterr08:53
zomghaxo08:53
ocletto do the install without gui08:53
zcat[1] oclet: use the alternative image08:53
ocletuff08:53
zomghaxyeah08:53
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ocletsucks08:54
colkchecksum passed08:54
ocleti'm installing onto a really old 700mhz laptop08:54
zcat[1] I don't think you can do a nongui install with the regular CD..08:54
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ocletand the right side of the keyboard select screen never comes up08:54
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K^Holtzughh, my sound just stopped working all together08:55
zomghaxuh08:55
Naik0How do i extract tar.gz file?08:55
zomghaxmuted?08:55
Naik0i tried tar -xjvf08:55
oclethrm08:55
zomghaxvolume control08:55
ocletanyways wheres the alternate install cd?08:55
zcat[1] tar -xzf for tar.gz  tar -xjf for tar.bz208:55
Naik0thanks zcat[1]  !08:56
K^Holtzno, its not muted08:56
zcat[1] or just use archive manager :)08:56
Naik0yea! but i want to learn basics :P08:56
colkhmm08:56
zcat[1] Naik0: man tar :)08:56
colkthe wifi light flickers08:56
sushi_How do I change root password please08:57
colkand the boot freezes08:57
zcat[1] sushi_: you don't. It's a bad idea08:57
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zomghaxhe wants too08:57
sushi_I think my password has been compromised08:57
colkhmm i have an idea08:57
sushi_and why is it a bad idea?  please explain08:57
zcat[1] bah! sudo passwd root   then, but don't say I didn't warn you...08:57
ocletanyone know where to get the alternate cd install?08:57
ocletor whatever08:57
sushi_zcat: what will happen if something 'goes wrong'08:58
zomghaxur doomed08:58
zomghax4ever08:58
zomghaxand ever08:58
ocleti dont want doom08:58
sushi_recovery mode will log me in as root wont it08:58
ocletughz08:58
sushi_i want doom 208:58
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zomghaxlol08:58
zomghaxme want doom 408:58
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zomghaxanyone tried cs source using wine?08:59
zcat[1] recovery mode will log you straight into a root shell. The rest of the time you really should use sudo, it makes accidents less likely for a start...08:59
cbx33zomghax, yes08:59
zomghaxgood?08:59
cbx33zomghax, works pretty well08:59
cbx33I get08:59
zomghaxyay08:59
cbx331024x76808:59
cbx33average of 40fps08:59
zomghaxhalflife 2 too?08:59
cbx33but then my machine does kick a little ass08:59
zomghaxo09:00
cbx33zomghax, not tried but I imagine that may work a little better09:00
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cbx33zomghax, what mahien you got?09:00
zomghaxmahien?09:00
cbx33machine09:00
zomghaxmachine?09:00
zomghaxum09:00
zomghaxpentium 4 3.2 ghz 1 and a half gb ram09:00
cbx33hmmm09:01
cbx33you could be ok then09:01
zomghaxgeforece 66000 oc09:01
zomghax660009:01
cbx33wine is nice enough to compile from source09:01
cbx33eh I only have a 7300 GT OC09:01
jcacereshello, i have some trouble, because my laptop checks file system, every time it reboots, and that takes tooomuch09:01
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zomghax!09:01
sushi_zcat i know all this but as far as changin root password, why is that a bad idea?   I want to do it weekly09:01
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cbx33zomghax, the 6600 GT is .... I think ... more power ful than the 7300 GT OC09:01
hope13gasp x chat crashed lol09:01
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jcaceresi know that that's normal every 30 boots, but in this case it happens ebery time09:01
zomghaxo09:01
cbx33zomghax, here's what ya need to do09:01
zomghaxdidnt kow09:02
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zcat[1] sushi_: it's more secure to have no root account at all...09:02
cbx33do an  apt-get build-dep wine09:02
jcaceresany idea of how can i solve that?09:02
zomghaxk09:02
jengc0i1nn: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38746/09:02
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cbx33that'll get you all the build dependencies of wine09:02
cbx33the repo version of wine is crap09:02
jengc0i1cbx33: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38746/09:02
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cbx33jengc0i1, ?09:03
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sushi_zcat: ok well then i mean to say: "How do I change the sudo password"09:03
cbx33zomghax, after you have done that09:03
zomghaxis says09:03
cbx33visit www.winehq.com09:03
zomghaxit says09:03
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zomghaxunable to find09:03
zcat[1] sushi_: the sudo password is your normal login password09:03
cbx33and get the latest source09:03
cbx33zomghax, do you have universe/multiverse enabled?09:03
sushi_zcat: you mean first user login account09:03
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cbx33if not goto... System->Administration->Software Sources09:04
zomghaxall?09:04
sushi_zcat[1]  thanks you helped =] 09:04
jengc0i1cbx33: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38746/09:04
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cbx33oh09:04
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_goofy_how do i find out the release i have09:04
cbx33you're dapper?09:04
sushi_zcat[1]  now what if I accidently set a root password, what should I do to re-secure it ?09:04
sushi_i did sudo passwd root   but now that compromised it, how do I disable root again?09:05
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howieson27hello ubuntu find my burner as a scsi burner how can i change this?09:05
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jengc0i1cbx33: yeah 6.0609:05
howieson27hello ubuntu find my burner as a scsi burner where can i change this?09:05
cbx33jengc0i1, :(09:05
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cbx33zomghax, yeh turn em all one09:06
BoglizkI'm having problems with my charset09:06
cbx33s/one/on09:06
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zomghaxall?!09:06
cbx33jengc0i1, I'm not sure on that one09:06
cbx33zomghax, yup09:06
zomghaxtheres like 100's09:06
cbx33oh?09:06
jengc0i1cbx33: who can help?09:06
cbx33you only need universe09:06
zcat[1] sushi_: sudo nano /etc/shadow   and edit the password field (it's the second thing between :'s and will be lots of letters) back to :*:09:06
cbx33and multiverse09:06
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max_any one know how to just take an audio tr4ack of a flv file?09:06
cbx33jengc0i1, probably not many people today09:07
max_or save audio fomr youtube09:07
cbx33max_, I think mplayer should be able to rip that out09:07
jengc0i1holiday09:07
sushi_zcat[1]  thanks you helped again !09:07
cbx33indeed09:07
jengc0i1i forgot09:07
zomghaxohI checked them off09:07
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cbx33max_, or you could try vlc09:07
zcat[1] Or perhaps root:!:  seems to be the standard... either works09:07
max_how?09:07
cbx33max_, that shoudl be able to transcode it09:07
cbx33get vlc09:07
max_they play it, but how can i just get audio off of it09:07
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max_i have vlxc09:07
max_vlc*09:07
cbx33in vlc there is the option to transcode09:07
jengc0i1!rep09:07
cbx33do wizard I think09:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rep - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:07
cbx33!repo09:08
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource09:08
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zcat[1] max_: mplayer --dumpaudio --dumpfile=soundtrack.wav mediaclip.avi09:08
cbx33jengc0i1, have a google for restting the cache09:08
sushi_zcat[1]  if i remember old unix, one means 'no password' and one means 'disabled user'    ! or *   shrug  =\09:08
jcacereshello, i have some trouble, because my laptop checks file system, every time it reboots, and that takes tooomuch09:08
jcaceresany idea of how can i solve that?09:08
cbx33right I'm off09:08
howieson27can nobody help me :(09:08
cbx33merry christmas all09:08
zomghaxyou too09:08
zomghaxthanks a ton09:08
zcat[1] ..something like that anyhow09:08
cbx33zomghax, once you get the source from winehq,09:08
cbx33read the read me09:08
zomghaxk09:08
cbx33you have to untar, configure and the make dep and then make09:08
cbx33bye all09:09
max_zcat[1] : does that get rid of the video so im left with just audio?09:09
nnthis is really cool :)09:09
sushi_zcat[1]  i didnt backup my shadow file .... was it * or ! ?09:09
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colkok that sucks09:09
zcat[1] max_: it'll make a new wav file with just the audio in it...09:09
colkubuntu will boot wiithout wireless09:10
colkbut not with09:10
max_thanks09:10
CaptainMorgank- I don't get this... in Windows, firefox displays a particular site fine, IE6 & IE7 both display it the same as firefox... everything looks great, BUT, when I log into a linux machine, running the 'same' version of firefox(because I simply copied over the folder) the same page/site is displayed incorrectly. This has got to be X-server/Linux, is it not?09:10
zcat[1] sushi_: unknown.. :!: should be fine.09:10
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pleaseI'm bored.09:10
zomghaxme too09:11
zomghaxits christmas soon09:11
pleaseyep09:11
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jengc0i1who celebrate chrismas?09:12
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zomghaxme09:12
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=== jengc0i1 celebrate aidil adha
jengc0i1merry zomghax09:12
BoglizkAnyone know why i'm not able to use ISO-8859-15? It works and everything according to others, myself i only see wierd symbols09:12
zomghaxyou too09:12
zcat[1] !exec -o date09:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about exec -o date - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:12
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zcat[1] Mon Dec 25 21:12:44 NZDT 200609:12
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zcat[1] christmas here a while ago already :)09:12
zomghax=D09:13
zomghaxhow you do that09:13
zomghax?09:13
zomghaxsanta09:13
santa-clauszcat[1] : which area?09:13
zcat[1] NZdt09:13
santa-clausdo wht zomghax09:13
please931798209:13
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zomghaxwht09:13
zomghax?09:13
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santa-clauswhat09:14
santa-clauslol09:14
zomghaxlol09:14
zomghaxtalk like that09:14
zcat[1] Hamilton, NZ09:14
zomghaxgive present09:14
santa-clausoic09:14
zcat[1] /me does things09:14
zomghaxkewl09:14
Mansewhat is the keymap code of America?09:14
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santa-clauszomghax: put infront ur house09:14
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=== zomghax hugs santa-claus
magic_ninjawhats up all09:15
strabesManse: it's "us" isn't it?09:15
magic_ninjai'm having problems with my ubuntu boot not being able to load my root filesystem09:15
magic_ninjamerry xmas all09:15
strabesManse: or "en"09:15
zomghaxyo9u too09:16
VerdRousseauis it possible to change your from gnome to kde without having to use kubuntu09:16
ManseKEYMAP="us"?09:16
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magic_ninjaVerdRousseau: yea the only real difference is the desktop its packaged with09:16
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max_the_grinch:09:16
max_Error parsing option on the command line: --dumpaudio09:16
max_m09:16
Mansestrabes:KEYMAP="us"?09:16
strabesVerdRousseau: yes - http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde09:17
strabesManse: no idea09:17
VerdRousseauso all the programs are the exact same09:17
the_grinchmax_: mplayer --help or man mplayer .. my memory's not 100% but the options are documented...09:17
strabesVerdRousseau: no; KDE apps look a lot different. you can use gnome apps in kde and kde apps in gnome but they look bad09:17
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ootputis there a quick way to migrate all data (and achieve a working system) from / into several logical volumes (lvm2) in a raid array?09:18
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ootputalso, for those of you who celebrate it: Merry Christmas ;)09:18
VerdRousseauso if I wanted the KDE apps is it best to uninstall ubuntu and get kubuntu09:18
the_grinchanyone here still waiting for the big man? only a few timeszones left...09:19
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strabesVerdRousseau: you can have both kde and gnome installed on your computer at the same time. you just log into separate sessions09:20
noodles12merry xmas everyone09:20
strabesif you want to remove gnome, see the tutorial on that website entitled pure KDE i believe09:20
zomghaxmerry christmas09:20
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FlannelVerdRousseau: just install the other (if you have ubuntu, install 'kubuntu-desktop', and vv)09:20
zomghaxI love you all09:20
zomghaxhappy holidays09:21
VerdRousseauOkay, but with the different apps that come with KDE how would those workout (and what are the main difference in apps)09:21
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n1gkehappy holidays zomg09:21
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zomghaxyou too09:22
FlannelVerdRousseau: both desktop packages bring with them their own apps09:22
d00dyou 309:22
n1gkeu 409:22
magic_ninjaji'm having probs getting my boot to mount my root file system, i can give more info if anyone's around09:22
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VerdRousseauand what about like when I installed this ipod song program on my Gnome, would that transfer to KDE09:23
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FlannelVerdRousseau: gnome and KDE sit ontop of the filesystem, you'd put it in your home folder, and it'd be avialable to you regardless of what widnow manager you used09:24
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VerdRousseauwhich desktop do you guys like best09:25
FlannelVerdRousseau: different people like different WMs for a variety of reasons.  Most likely none of which will be exactly what you think is important.  the best method is just to try them and see which you prefer.09:26
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nnanyone ever play with doing VPN over strange connections?09:27
Naik0what do i get if i install a GTK+2 Engine?09:27
VerdRousseaualso I have my wireless card setup but how do I see the idicator of my card on the desktop09:28
VerdRousseauwhat program would I have to download09:28
magic_ninjaNaik0: its only like 26 megs install it you NEED it09:28
magic_ninjaNaik0: its a runtime lib similar to jde09:28
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Naik0magic_ninja, but if i want a nice theme i can install their GTK+2 Engine09:28
Naik0right?09:28
Naik0i think ive installed one but im not sure, how can i check what engine i have?09:29
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max_ does anyone know how to take audio off a .flv file? or just save audio from youtube09:30
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Naik0magic_ninja, how do i see what engine thats installed?09:33
max_ does anyone know how to take audio off a .flv file? or just save audio from youtube09:35
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magic_ninjadarn, so no one knows about not mounting root filesystem09:36
SurfnKidmount09:36
SurfnKid!mount09:36
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter09:36
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magic_ninjaSurfnKid: no the problem is that linux can't mount my / file system therefore can no longer go on09:38
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SurfnKidwhat kind is it09:39
magic_ninjaand i can't mount my hda109:39
hope13lol erm i'm copying files from my dvd rom to a folder and it's freezing up my linux. Is there a alt+ctrl+del command for linux? >,<09:40
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rcrookok.... does anyone know much about arson?09:40
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magic_ninjaSurfnKid: i am in LIVECD now but i can't mount my /dev/hda1 which is my root filesystem09:40
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SurfnKidoh09:41
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SurfnKidcould ya try to while on grub?09:41
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konradsHello. When updating from a local mirror, i get packages not authenticated. I suspect i'm missing a key.  How do I check which key i'm missing so i could get it from subkeys.pgp.net?09:42
SurfnKidsend a boot comm to /dev/hda1 and crank him up09:42
Pie-ratehow would i change specific icons? for example i hate the emblems in Tango but like a lot of the icons in Human09:42
magic_ninjaSurfnKid: i think there is a prob with that partition09:42
SurfnKidoh09:42
magic_ninjaSurfnKid: i should be able to edit /boot/grub.lst and fix the prob if i can just get the part mounted09:43
magic_ninjahow do i check the disk for errors?09:43
SurfnKidfsck09:43
SurfnKidbut ya have to unmount it09:43
SurfnKidor itll do really nasty stuff i hear09:43
magic_ninjai can't mount it lol09:43
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SurfnKidright lol09:43
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SurfnKidbut still, i suggest keep asking, sure someone here will give ya a hint09:44
SurfnKidi dunno too much about boot commands09:44
SurfnKidand ive screwed up a partition once myself09:44
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SurfnKidtry to get an email from the forums so you an get a specific answer to what yer trying to do from an expert09:44
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kidhi, i have a newbie question... I just bought a new lcd monitor for my laptop. I plugged it in and it worked, but on th elaptops lcd resolution. to change the resolution for my new LCD monitor, all i need is to add the resolution on my xorg.conf... right?09:46
Pie-ratewhoo mixing the window border and icons from Silicon with the controls from Grey makes an AWESOME theme09:46
magic_ninjaSurfnKid: well in all reality right now i want to is check my /dev/hda1 filesystem for starters09:46
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SurfnKidah09:46
SurfnKidmaybe the livecd has a check tool since its not mounted09:46
magic_ninjaim on live09:47
max_qtparted09:47
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SurfnKidmax_, yep thats good09:48
magic_ninjamax_: willl qtparted check disks though?09:48
max_i think09:49
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magic_ninjai really hope i don't have to reinstall OS09:50
magic_ninjadoes ubuntu have an installation repair09:50
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max_i dont think so09:51
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magic_ninjawell im thinking that my hda1 may not have been the active partition, which would explain because i booted into windows from a different hdd09:52
magic_ninjaso i can do that and try a reboot09:52
SurfnKidjust try diffferent commands to boot to the specified boot folder09:52
SurfnKidand update the boot partition09:53
Naik0how do i restart X?09:53
SurfnKidCTRL ALT BACKSPACE09:53
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Naik0thanks09:53
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karakarais there a bash command to make yer pc speaker beep?09:54
rcrookis there a program for ubuntu that gives you the same funcrions as cloneCD?09:54
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magic_ninjaSurfnKid: i set hda1 as active, lets try it now09:55
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SurfnKidah good09:56
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SurfnKidtry09:56
magic_ninja wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1,09:56
magic_ninjathats what i get when i try to mount hda109:56
SurfnKid:/09:56
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SurfnKidmagic_ninja, can you mount that drive on another linux box?09:57
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SurfnKidand try to get a copy of the boot command?09:57
magic_ninjaSurfnKid: no idea09:57
magic_ninjaSurfnKid: why wouldn't i be able to mount it though...thats the question, which is why i wanna check the disk for errors09:58
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SurfnKidyeah if its an ext3 it should mount09:59
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SurfnKidlook up mount commands or in the forum09:59
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karakarais there a bash command to make yer pc speaker beep?10:04
magic_ninjaiono10:04
the_grinchkarakara: echo -e "\007"10:05
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karakaraty10:06
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magic_ninjaSuperblock has an invalid ext3 journal (inode 8).10:09
magic_ninjathat would be the primary problem would it not?10:09
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ashtonMer?10:10
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ashtonIt's Ashton_K, my nick is already used....10:10
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ashtonBy me, downstairs....10:11
ashtonDangit, hold on.10:11
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luischola feliz navidad10:13
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Ashton_KToo bad racarr isn't here.10:13
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Ashton_KI'm installing Beryl.10:13
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luiscalguien que me pueda recomendar una buena targeta de video?10:13
foglightwhat is Beryl?10:13
foglightanother livecd?10:14
Ashton_KDifferent window manager.10:14
foglightyou like?10:14
magic_ninjauh-oh i think i just broke my system10:14
foglightit good?10:14
magic_ninjalol10:14
Ashton_KWell, I'll tell you when I'm done.10:14
Ashton_K:P10:15
foglightyou buy?10:15
Ashton_KGPL.10:15
Ashton_K(Free)10:15
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hjmillsmerry christmas10:17
maimsterMerry Christmas!10:17
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hagabakawhat's the meaning of numbers prefixing file names in /etc/X11/Xsession.d, such as 20x11-common_process-args, 80ubuntu-xmodmap?10:22
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magic_ninjaSurfnKid: well guess what good news i can mount /dev/hda110:22
PORDOi can't find the vorbis support for gstreamer10:23
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GreyGhostMERRY X"MAS EVERYONE !!!!!+10:23
hope13same to you10:23
hope13what's a good program to open rar?10:23
SurfnKidmagic_ninja, you the man10:23
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GreyGhosthope13 , winrar ?10:25
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hope13winrar works for linux?10:25
hope13lol10:25
hope13thx10:25
zylche7zip through wine!10:25
zylcheI highly recommend.10:25
GreyGhosthope13 , ahhh u wanted linux... then the Ubutnu archive manager?10:25
zylchedoesn't work for rar, try 7zip ;)10:26
hope13so i need wine?10:26
hope13guess i'll try playing with wine10:26
GreyGhostu can use p7zip for linux ....10:26
magic_ninjaSurfnKid: now i just gotta see if i can boot again10:26
magic_ninjahope13: btw you have to install unrar for linux10:27
magic_ninjahope13: its a free download10:27
GreyGhost!rar10:27
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free10:27
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GreyGhost!unrar-free10:27
ubotuunrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB10:27
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hope13lol thx10:27
GreyGhosthope13 ,get that then10:27
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tuxplorerI installed kde4 from ubuntu repos. But I didn't get an entry in either KDM or GDM.. I want to add an entry to it.. There is not /etc/gdm/Sessions/ directory in ubuntu.. Where do I add the entry then?10:29
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tuxplorerI use ubuntu edgy10:30
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GreyGhosttuxplorer ,didn't appear under session when u login?10:31
tuxploreryes. it doesn't appear :(10:31
missingHi im trying to patch 2.6.19 with the low latency pre-emp patch-2.6.20-rc1-rt6 but i get Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected!  Assume -R? [n]   can anyone help me out?10:31
missingor point me in the right channel?10:31
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GreyGhosttuxplorer , i would try to help u out... but i havent installed extra shells for nix .... so i dont have any experience .... wait till more ppl pop in ...10:33
tuxplorerGreyGhost: Thanks. :)  Will wait.10:33
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missingtuxplorer: what are u trying to do with shells?10:34
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zomghaxyellow10:35
zomghaxhi10:35
bonzai10hey, i installed xchat-gnom and i can't get user list to be displayed, i have no "view" menu section to do so.... how am i supposed to get my user list displayed ?10:35
zomghaxIIII llllooovvvvveee BANANA!10:35
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GreyGhostmissing , i dont know if they're called shells ( i thought they are....) he is tryin to install KDE ...10:35
tuxplorermissing: shells? I don't do anything.. I just wanted to add my KDE entry to GDm10:35
missingbonzai: the user list is actually hidden where it says 790 users, click there and the list will pop up10:36
macdbonzai10, I trashed the xchat-gnome in favor of xchat2 + xchat dydtray plugin.10:36
tuxplorerGreyGhost: I've installed KDE already..10:36
tuxplorerjust the entry is missing10:36
bonzai10oh thanx macd10:36
missingohh okay so gdm wont let u change session?10:36
GreyGhosttuxplorer ,yeah i know.... but i suppose without the entry the install isnt practically complete ;)10:36
tuxplorermissing: yes10:36
tuxplorerGreyGhost: lol10:36
tuxplorerya. kinda10:37
missingtuxxplorer: luckily ive gone throug this in BSD let me see if i can remember where it is in the BSD handbook10:37
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missingHi im trying to patch kernel 2.6.19 with the low latency pre-emp patch-2.6.20-rc1-rt6 but i get Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected!  Assume -R? [n]   can anyone help me out?10:37
bradyhow much space (approx) will apt-get install xubuntu-desktop ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop use?10:37
magic_ninjaok in my grub config i got this - (hd0,0) for root10:37
magic_ninjawhat is the proper context to make it hda110:38
tuxplorermissing: from what I see from most forums, we need to add a script containing a exec start_kdeinit to /etc/gdm/Sessions/ dir.. but that dir is not there :(10:38
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bonzai10is it possible to install drivers for radeon mobility m6 series, i know ati doesn't support them anymore and i tried using automatix but if anyone has a clue or knows a link to a guide...10:39
missingwell in bsd from what i remember u run a command and thats it, sincer theres no need to reinstall bsd so i cant remember too well ive only done it once10:39
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willskillsMerry Christmas folks :)10:40
zylche*Mithramas10:40
tuxplorermissing: oh ok. If you get to remember the command tell me. so that I can search for the equivalent of it10:40
magic_ninjahow can i update my root dir in grub from (hd0,0) to hda (i don't know the context to use)10:40
magic_ninjaif someone could paste me their root line in grub i would be forever greatful10:40
magic_ninjashould it be (hda,1) or what?10:41
missingwell its all gdm and X and KDE10:41
missing+10:41
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bonzai10root(hd0,0) if its primary and first part10:42
magic_ninjaso /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash10:42
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bonzai10not ro10:43
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bonzai10ro is for read only i suppose10:43
hope13um is this the code to install unrar-free (on edgy): "sudo apt-get install unrar-free" ?10:43
bonzai10no im wrong10:43
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GreyGhosthope13 ,should be...10:44
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bonzai10hope13 use automatix210:44
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hope13oh10:44
GreyGhost!rar10:45
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free10:45
missingtuxplorer: hey try this link see if it solves your problems10:45
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missingtuxplorer: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11-wm.html10:45
tuxplorerThanks missing.. will see that10:45
GreyGhosthope13 ,if that doesn't work ...try just unrar ....10:45
missingHi im trying to patch kernel 2.6.19 with the low latency pre-emp patch-2.6.20-rc1-rt6 but i get Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected!  Assume -R? [n]   can anyone help me out?10:46
bonzai10automatix2 installs all popular windows archivers.... it'd do all things fast10:46
magic_ninjabonzai10: hey i need to make my root not mount ro right?10:46
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FirstStrikeautomatix..10:46
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ademanis there anything similar to fruity loops for linux10:47
ademan?10:47
bonzai10no magic, i mislead myself... my kernel line looks like that /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet splash locale=pl_PL10:47
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missingtuxplorer: i fouhnd a ubuntu especific link with will sonlve your problem for sure http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=292010:48
magic_ninjabonzai10: so leave that line alone?10:48
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tuxplorermissing: Ah! Thanks a lot.. I didn't find this forum post when I searched the same forum :)10:49
bonzai10what error do you have ? and what do you want to do, i joined in the middle and im out of mind10:49
missingno problem10:50
hexdreamck getting a Canon Pixma ip5200 printer running correctly (or mostly) under Edgy Eft?10:50
missingwell im off to some other channel to see if i can get help myself10:50
tuxplorermissing: This solution must work precisely.. will try it now.. logging off..10:50
noodles12ok this is really dumb but.... my taskbar at the top of my page randomly got moved to teh side. and it is full so i cannot right click on the actual panel and select it to be at the top again. is there another way to do it? =*(10:50
tuxplorermissing: what is your problem?10:50
missingciao10:50
magic_ninjaalright wish me luck guys10:50
missingHi im trying to patch kernel 2.6.19 with the low latency pre-emp patch-2.6.20-rc1-rt6 but i get Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected!  Assume -R? [n]   can anyone help me out?10:50
magic_ninjai'm gonna try this again10:50
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missingany ideas?10:51
tuxplorermissing: Ah! sorry.. I don't know about kernel compilation.. sorry.. may be try at #linux or #linux-india as well :)10:51
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noodles12can anyone help on my simple dumb problem? >.<10:52
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arcadeHmpfh, too long since I've tried to use microphones&linux .. what's the /dev/-name that refers to the mic? :)10:52
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missingwill try10:52
missingthanks10:52
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hope13this is going to be retarded but i wiki it, googled it, and linuxquestion it and... how do you install stuff on linux? like... unrar? T_T10:52
arcadedsp .. maybe :P10:52
lafiellehope13: using a package manager10:53
lafielleusually10:53
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hope13is it that install/uninstall stuff?10:53
fdoving!software | hope1310:53
ubotuhope13: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents and !Offline10:53
hope13oh thx10:53
noodles12http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=323878&highlight=.rar10:53
hope13ooo thx10:53
hope13lol10:53
hope13i need to unrar this book on teaching me how to use ubuntu LOL10:54
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lafielleAnybody aware of a program that will allow me to monitor network traffic and check which connections are coming in, being blocked etc.?10:55
magic_ninjawell guess what guys10:55
magic_ninjai got my computer to boot10:55
magic_ninjaipkungfu10:55
Aat56hope this is the right place to ask right besides the forums but: i'm having some "major" weirdness going on with ubuntu.. some programs go randomly to uninterruptible state when they try to access 2nd disk (i have two, both are sata)10:55
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magic_ninja!ipkungfu10:55
ubotuipkungfu: iptables-based Linux firewall. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.2-7 (edgy), package size 33 kB, installed size 212 kB10:55
lafiellemagic_ninja: thanks, will have a look!10:55
lafiellemagic_ninja: is it GUI based?10:55
magic_ninjaok now i've been working all day just to play et10:56
magic_ninjalafielle: no but they may (and probably are many) rich frontends for the command line10:56
Aat56when i tried to find some solution from the web, somebody asked the person in need for help to press ctrl+scroll lock and paste the output from (dmesg?) and here it goes: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38750/10:56
Aat56those are the processes as far as i know, who are in that state and before those, dmesg showed these error messages and now repeats them with increasing sector count: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38749/10:57
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ademanso yeah, is there any music editor/mixer or whatever similar to fruity loops available on linux?11:01
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Ypsy_Hello world!11:04
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hope13foo bar!11:04
Ypsy_^^11:05
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hope13um does edgy have a multi universe repositories?11:05
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hope13or can i use drapper? hehe11:05
un_operateur!repositories11:05
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource11:05
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FirstStrike!multiverse | hope1311:06
ubotuhope13: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource11:06
FirstStrikeHmm11:06
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FirstStrikeI thought it was different11:06
hope13i read that lol11:06
hope13since i'm using edgy11:06
Ypsy_I have a little problem here. Perhaps someone here can help me^^ Im using Feisty herd1 Live/install CD atm and when I klick next after choosing the keyboard layout the screen freezes.11:06
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hope13can i use multiverse of like dapper?11:07
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hope13there is one for breezy too11:07
FirstStrikeno, you can't use dapper's multiverse11:07
hope13so i'm edgy11:07
FirstStrikei don't know if edgy has one yet11:07
hope13and edgy doesn't have one?11:07
ariccsMerry Christmas everybody11:07
un_operateurhope13, you can -- but it goes against the point of using edgy :)11:07
FirstStrikefelice navidad11:07
hope13oh11:07
un_operateurhope13, just use the edgy repo's -- if you want i can give them all to you?11:08
Aat56and to add: tried to write a dvd with gnomebuster but the drive stuck to spinning the damn disc for as long as i rebooted, didn't make any progress with the burning in an hour (and processes cdrecord.mmap, two of them, were "uninterruptible")11:08
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hope13um i'm a newbie and i just want to install unrar free? LOL11:08
FirstStrikejust compile it11:08
un_operateurhope13,  at your terminal -- type in -- sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list11:08
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hope13i did that11:09
un_operateurhope13, and then replace the contents with this -- http://pastebin.ca/29153411:09
FirstStrikei don't see why everybody's afraid of compiling :>11:09
hope13so you're telling me to erase the whole contents with that one url?11:09
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un_operateurhope13, no -- open that url with your browser -- you'll see new contents :p11:10
hope13how come i feel like i'm going to mess up the linux if i do this11:10
hope13oh11:10
FirstStrikehaha11:10
hope13oh sweet there is a multiuniverse for edgy11:11
hope13thx again11:11
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un_operateurhope13, copy and paste them into your sources.list -- save the file and run this command -- sudo aptitude update11:11
naelphinIs DRI needed for 2d accleration?11:11
naelphinor is it only for 3d11:11
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un_operateurhope13, once thats is done -- you should be able to -- sudo aptitude install rar unrar  :)11:12
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hope13really?! thx lol11:13
baylemerry christmas :)11:13
un_operateurhope13, yea really, yw lol :p11:13
hope13i spent 2 hrs wiki and google'n lol11:13
un_operateurBon Noel a tous11:13
baylefrom france?11:14
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emunhi everybody , need some help , has anyone installed successfully mythtv on ubuntu , and merry christmas11:14
bayleanyway, merry christmas and buon natale11:14
un_operateurbayle, no, i'm not from france, just think i am :)11:14
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un_operateur!mythtv | emun, have you checked this out -->>11:15
ubotuemun, have you checked this out -->: MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV11:15
POVaddctfrohe weihnachten11:15
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POVaddctjust to extend the list of languages11:15
fooshMuslims do not like Ubuntu11:16
moosahello i am a semi-newbie ubuntu user and i need to know how to open .tar files (i have no idea how to open them just coming from windows xp)11:16
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un_operateur"have an ubuntu christmas!!" :)11:16
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hope13doesn't archive whatever do it for you?11:16
POVaddctmoosa: tar xf file.tar  or  tar xzf file.tar.gz  or  tar xjf file.tar.bz211:16
un_operateurmoosa, you ought to be able to double click on them11:16
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moosahmmm11:17
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un_operateuri think with gnu tar -- tar xf suffices for all11:17
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moosaif i double click i view whats in the file11:18
moosaright?11:18
hope13try it >,>11:18
moosait does11:18
un_operateurmoosa, I think it opens up in a file extraction utility like winzip on window -- you can select a file and extract it to a location of your choice11:18
emunI will check that out however is anybody with some experiience with mythtv out there.  and foosh do they understand ubuntu11:18
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hope13sweet drag and drop lol11:19
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Neko_AsakHello.  I'm new at this whole Linux thing and need a little help getting Ubuntu's installer running.  I've spent hours looking over the wiki and docs and can't find any answers.  Hopefully you guys (and gals) can help?11:20
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moosawell i am installing a application i really dont want to see whats IN it11:20
un_operateurmoosa, what application is it?11:20
un_operateurNeko_Asak, what seems to be failing?11:20
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Neko_AsakMy DVD drive is listed a "non-standard drive."11:20
moosaa tux game11:20
POVaddctmoosa: why do you install from a tar archive and not installing a ubuntu package?11:20
hope13LOL a tux game11:21
hope13is it fun?11:21
moosayeah :D11:21
hope13omg what's the name of it?11:21
fooshI we had the stinkiest hairpit compitition, who would win?  Muslims orhomeless people?11:21
moosawhen i install it ill know11:21
hope13oh11:21
Neko_AsakI'm unable to find the correct drivers for it.11:21
moosawell ubuntu package dosnt have it11:21
un_operateurfoosh, please keep the channel family friendly.. it's christmas after all11:22
moosanor does it have SDL dev package :(11:22
hope13omg you're so sexy un_operateur. I got rar to work11:22
fooshok11:22
un_operateurhope13, :)11:22
fooshsorry11:22
emunfoosh , what is this preoccupation with muslims, it is christmas anyway11:22
alexis_Why are all games, also 2D games like Xmoto crashing on my computer? I know my graphics card doesn't support 3D very well, but still when running windows I can play some games. I think it has something to do with my sound card...11:22
fooshDont know11:22
fooshEverone was talking muslim11:23
moosai am a muslim11:23
fooshReally?11:23
moosayeah11:23
fooshYou cool?11:23
moosacool with what?11:24
fooshhaving fun! cha cha cha11:24
fooshLets dance11:24
Neko_AsakI've tried a USB bootable drive, but it always seems to fail when I get to the part where I need to detect the CD drive.  I'm running 6.10 DVD and 6.10 Desktop11:24
emunwell there you go,11:24
POVaddctmoosa: of course ubuntu has sdl dev package. you probably haven't enabled all repositories.11:24
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moosai did11:24
Neko_AsakThis isn't unique to Ubuntu either.  GPartEd has the same error.  >.<  Help?11:25
fooshI have a few lebonese friends11:25
fooshThey make good food11:25
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un_operateurNeko_Asak, does ubuntu not boot up when you use the CD-Rom??11:25
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POVaddctmoosa: sure you enabled universe and multiverse?11:25
moosayep11:26
POVaddctmoosa: and did apt-get update after that?11:26
fooshWhy are we talking repositories in the muslim channel?11:26
Neko_AsakNope.  It'll load for about 30-40 seconds, the bar is on screen; but then it just hangs.  The CD and DVD both work fine, I was running the LiveCD versions on may laptop earlier today testing the discs and making the USB bootable.11:27
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moosai didnt install it on MY compilers (how do you compile apps in linux i dont see a run button >.<)11:27
Neko_AsakMy desktop is a homebuilt, in case that matters.11:27
fooshSanta brought me three packs of non-skidmarked underpants!yayaa!11:28
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emunexcuse me i  did not know this was the muslim channel and foosh watch the bootle11:28
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fooshwatch the what?11:29
POVaddctmoosa: for compiling you need at least the build-essential package11:29
emunthe bottle, correction11:29
fooshAlcohol?11:29
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un_operateurmoosa, and libsdl/libsdl-dev if you are compiling something to do with sdl11:29
emunwhatever is in that bottle11:30
moosagame dev on windows was a little simpler and more options11:30
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fooshI dont drink11:30
moosabut i wasnt going to use directX anyway11:30
fooshIts bad for you11:30
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fooshIts bad for you | less11:31
hope13i think i found a glitch or maybe it's beryl11:31
Neko_AsakI have a Sony DVD Dual format drive, if that helps narrow it down.11:31
moosamy windows XP system was badly damaged tho and i allways wanted to try ubuntu11:31
fooshIts bad for you | more11:31
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hope13Sony = bad11:31
knjIs it possible to start a program like X-chat minimized? Or minimize it by knowing its pid?11:31
hope13lol11:31
emungood for you just wondered for a moment, are you muslim , foosh11:32
SlartHello, why does my gnome menues and such stop working while I'm moving files between my hard drives?11:32
fooshI am a Scientologist11:32
hope13LOL11:32
Neko_AsakSony Company = bad or Sony DVD = bad?11:32
hope13i think they're really proprietary11:32
wkerzendasus p5b with raid 5 on ich8r. dmraid doesnt recognize that, should I install new kernel (2.6.19) or should I change the Bios settings11:32
emunwow,11:32
wkerzendbtw i run edgy11:33
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moosaisnt there any thing like remote help on ubuntu that whould help me alot11:33
hope13me too!11:33
hope13lol11:33
LynoureLots of offtopic things here today...11:33
Neko_AsakNo kidding, makes getting help rather frustrating.11:33
fooshedgy is too unstable. It does wierd stuff11:33
hope13um anyway i set alt+ctrl+x to launch terminal11:33
Lynouremoosa: there is VNC, but you'd want to be careful of who "helps" you11:33
hope13it doesn't work ne more11:33
emunyou right about that11:33
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hope13is it beryl?11:34
hope13evil beryl >,>11:34
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mc__hello,im on amd64(Athlon X2) my system freezes about every 5 second for one sec11:34
wkerzendis there a ubuntu dmraid channel or raid channel specifically for raid problems? thanks11:34
emunanyway need some one with some experience with mythtv on ubuntu11:34
moosai have much proplems today i really need to install some applications11:34
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wkerzendemun: I had mythtv running on my system, whats the question?11:35
moosadev librarys etc11:35
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POVaddctLynoure: i'd rather use ssh and a shared screen session than vnc.11:35
Neko_Asakdoes any one else here have a Sony DVD-RW drive?  Perhaps it's just something I missed?11:36
hope13neko: it doesn't work for this guy:http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=50775211:36
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LynourePOVaddct: I think anyone asking for a remote help function would need help doing that...11:36
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emunwkerend :great how did you go about downloading it and installing it, frontend  and bankend etc, so confusing.11:37
POVaddctLynoure: i already helped people that way11:37
LynourePOVaddct: Good for you, and them.11:37
hope13gasp make an faq for mythtv wkerend lol11:37
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moosawell if i get at least a tip about a compiler thats easy to use that whould be helpfull11:37
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mc__moosa: gcc11:37
LynourePOVaddct: keep on doing it. :) I actually even refuse to help people over Vnc if they should not have a reason to trust me. :)11:38
mc__hello,im on amd64(Athlon X2) my system freezes about every 5 second for one sec,does anyone have  idea how to solve this problem?11:38
christopher_ldoes any know how to remove Ruby 1.8.5, if you built it from source?11:38
Neko_AsakStupid question, but are you using the version for Athlon 64-bit chips?  I noticed there was a special install for those.11:39
POVaddctLynoure: i would simply not use vnc because it takes way too much bandwidth.11:39
LynourePOVaddct: I agree, if there is just a narrow band.11:39
LynourePOVaddct: but in the case of the typical user not knowing where to click, graphical is a big plus11:40
Neko_Asakmc___ I didn't mean that yours was a stupid question.  ^_^  I meant "I have a stupid question for you...."11:40
hope13um i'm using beryl and one of the short cut uses the next key and the super key is there such a key?11:40
POVaddctLynoure: dsl in germany has typically 1mbit downstream and 128kbit upstream. i called that narrow band.11:40
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LynourePOVaddct: Much much faster in Finland :)11:41
LynourePOVaddct: Did you notice I mostly agreed with you? :)11:41
emunhello wkerzend, are you still there, maybe you can give me a short list of what to do and what not todo with this mythtv stuff11:41
POVaddctLynoure: :)11:41
moosawhen i thot about using linux for game dev i did think of limitations but not as much as this11:41
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moosaif only my dev-c++ compiler was here11:42
Neko_Asakmc____  http://ubuntu.cs.utah.edu/releases/edgy/  Check out the 64-bit PC install.  that may help.  Assuming you didn't already, that is.11:42
hope13use g++11:43
hope13note to self alt+ctrl+backspace is what i think it is11:43
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emunmythtv help anybody11:44
POVaddctmoosa: there is only one compiler in linux and that is gcc/g++. the compiler itself is always command line only and the typical form of source code distribution is to be compiled with command line tools like make.11:44
POVaddctmoosa: there are graphical front ends for editing source and compiling them, but i doubt you can use that for any tar.gz source archive.11:44
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emunin fact I am also interested in what you do after you get the tar.gz archive seating on your desktop11:47
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moosai try opening it11:47
POVaddctemun: first you should ask if you have to install the software from a tar at all. in most cases there is a ubuntu package for it.11:47
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Neko_AsakOkay, I ask again.  I need help installing Ubuntu.  My Sony DVD-RW is a "non-standard drive" and I am unable to mount it, therefore unable to complete the install.  Does anyone have any suggestions?11:50
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emungood, what is happening is this some of newbie see some application we like and want to install it so we download it and think we can just double click it and install , but I  am learning that maye I need to check for packages first is that correct11:51
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emunexcuse my typing11:52
noonacan someone help me choosing one between these laptops: http://www.castlecops.com/t175286-help_choosing_my_lapptop.html11:52
hope13try  cd rom with different branding other than sony lol11:53
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POVaddctemun: yes. downloading a installer and doubleclicking it is the windows way. in most linux distributions, you install software from a repository built for this particular distribution.11:53
moosai guess its only you and me command line11:53
emunby the way what is tar and what is rpm11:53
Neko_AsakApparently so.  Right.  Well, off I go then.11:54
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moosared hat package11:54
moosarpm11:54
POVaddctemun: tar is the traditional unix archiver program. not distro specific.11:54
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Stormx2emun: Yeah. Its not like windows. You can of course download stuff from the internet, but unless you need something which isn't in any repos / a custom build its best to check the repos.11:55
POVaddctemun: rpm is the redhat package manager format. ubuntu does not use rpm. ubuntu packages are in .deb format, that is debian package.11:55
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ellesselam11:55
emunappreciate the explanation, now I am slowly understanding this stuff11:55
elleshi11:55
oxygen:))11:56
oxygenelles, : are you turk ?11:56
hope13isn't it salom11:56
elles:) of course11:56
elles:P11:56
oxygenhehe11:56
ellesu?11:56
oxygenyes me to11:56
oxygen:)11:56
oxygenubuntumu kurcan11:57
ellesee bura sagirodan0131n sohbet kanal0131 deilmi11:57
POVaddctemun: the advantage of package management is that it keeps track of dependencies. if package A needs package B to run, installing package A will also install package B.11:57
Stormx2Happy Christmas everyone! Does anyone have any suggestions for an HTTP POST Brute Forcer / Dictionary Attacker?11:57
oxygensohbet kanalm11:57
oxygen:)))11:57
elleshicbisey kurmak gibi niyetim yokta11:57
ellessiyasi tart0131sma platformu sanm0131st0131m11:57
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oxygeno ne haci anlamadim11:57
oxygenben11:57
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elleshac0131 m0131:)11:57
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POVaddctenglish please11:57
emunnow how do you check a repository for something you saw on the internet and want to install11:58
lafielleanyone know how to get azureus to minimise to the tray?11:58
Stormx2Go to your own rooms... heh11:58
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Stormx2emun: Synaptic?11:58
oxygenajanmsn sen11:58
oxygen:)11:58
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hope13lafie: no11:58
moosaahh i missed wolf.E.T11:58
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unfunHow do you remove stuff you have installed in wine?11:58
moosaand most of Id games11:58
lafiellehope13: :(11:58
hope13um should i dl a anti virus program for my ubuntu? Or is that an oxymoron?11:58
POVaddctemun: on the command line (i mostly use that one instead of graphical tools) you would type: apt-cache search name11:58
Stormx2unfun: There should be an uninstaller .exe in the directory11:59
ellesee 0131m a little speak english11:59
Stormx2hope13: No you don't.11:59
ebe-1Hi guys. Got a prob. Installed my wireless usb network adaptor using ndiswrapper...it works, but only for about a minute. Then it just ceases to work, and I don't understand why.11:59
unfunokedoke11:59
elles0131m learning11:59
Stormx2hope13: Not unless you plan on serving some huge internet sites11:59
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POVaddctemun: for example apt-cache search screen11:59
hope13actually i was planning to get good at linux and then do LAMP11:59
lafielleor does anybody prefer a different (as well featured but less resource hungry) torrent client?11:59
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hope13mu torrent11:59
hope13unfortunately it's only for window i think12:00
oxygenelles, : klavyen bozuk gibi :)12:00
lafielleer, yes..12:00
lafielleI need one for ubuntu.12:00
hope13doesn't ubuntu come with a default one?12:00
emunis that apt-cache search  then the name of what you are seaching for12:00
moosais there a doc about installing .tar files in the wiki12:00
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ellesyok diilde12:01
bradywhat DM is used if I install kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop?12:01
ellesubuntu ne demek onu bulmaya cal0131s0131om12:01
lafiellebrady: You usually get a choice on your login screen IIRC.12:01
POVaddctbrady: good question. kdm or gdm :)12:02
elleskdm ?12:02
ellesgdm?12:02
bradymerhaba, elles12:02
ellesmrb12:02
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moosaif thats arabic its wrong12:02
moosa:P12:02
bradyturkish12:03
lafiellemerhaba, nessusin :P12:03
lafielleis about all I remember12:03
bradynasilsin, but the i's should be without dot12:03
lafielleand "chockien" or something similar12:03
lafiellebrady: yeah, dodgy on the spelling :P12:03
ellesiim sen12:04
elles:)12:04
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lafiellebbl12:04
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obstfliegemoin moin!12:05
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moosaits sad my whole school wanted to use edubuntu but found that there computers RAM cant handle it12:05
hope13wolw that's a sad schoo12:06
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POVaddctmoin obstfliege12:06
moosait runs windows XP just fine tho12:06
hope13does linux comes with a default firewall?12:06
ellesooooooooffffffffffffff12:06
bradyif i apt-get install kubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop ubuntu-desktop, will whatever DM i end up with give me the choice of session in the way i expect?12:06
POVaddcthope13: it comes with a tool to set up firewall rules (iptables)12:06
hope13i don't believe that moosa lol12:07
hope13oh12:07
moosaits true and sad :(12:07
POVaddcthope13: its true, win XP can boot with 64mb ram12:07
bradygule gule. I will never understand the desire to omit letters in typed-turkish.12:08
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moosamy schools computer teacher was looking forword for using edubuntu12:08
POVaddcthope13: iptables is command line only, but there are many frontends (like firestarter) to make it easier12:08
ubuntu12:09
willskillsI am having issues with TC:E sound; Alsa works fine (WoW runs with sound - aoss wine wow.exe) (xmms etc all run fine in desktop) - TC:E sound starts, but it just sounds like farts, at like 1sec intervals, is this a buffer issue?12:09
hope13firestarter?12:09
hope13mm12:09
hope13thx again12:09
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moosaif only edubuntu haves less RAM req12:09
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POVaddcthope13: you can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install firestarter. however i prefer setting up the rules with iptables itself, in a shell script.12:10
emunwhy is it so difficult to get a printer to work with ubuntu, but then turboprint can make printers work at a price, ie not free12:10
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hope13mmmmm shell script...? like perl?12:11
POVaddctmoosa: how much RAM is built in?12:11
POVaddcthope13: shell, not perl12:11
malvemun, its not if your printer is supported12:11
moosa12612:11
malveven easier than windows I would say12:11
moosamp12:11
antman_lol i wish i knew how to get a web cam to work in ubuntu12:11
POVaddctmoosa: you mean 128mb?12:11
moosayes12:11
ubuntuHello i AM ubuntu12:11
malvmy sweet ubuntu desktop: http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/8830/screenshotma6.png12:11
malvthat old linux background goes surprisingly well with ubuntus icons12:12
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POVaddctmoosa: the xubuntu live cd can run with 128mb12:12
des1hi all12:12
POVaddctmoosa: at least xubuntu 6.06 does12:12
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ubuntuIts so ... standard^^12:12
moosacan kids work on it....i dont think so12:12
malvI think my desktop should be the Ubuntu default =)12:12
emunmalv, I have two canon printers working fine on winxp but can not get then to work in ubuntu, this is frustrating, do I need to buy another printer just for linux now12:13
hope13is linux openoffice written in java ?12:13
apokryphosmalv: you deleted gnome and put on kde?12:13
malvemun, what model?12:13
POVaddcthope13: no, in C/C++12:13
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malvapokryphos, kde is ugly12:13
hope13oh no wonder it's fast12:13
ubuntujup12:13
apokryphosmalv: perhaps. Or beautiful.12:13
hope13i tried to dl java 1.4 and it crashed >,>12:14
emuncanon i470d and pixma mp15012:14
hope13povaddct: do you know how do uninstall it?12:14
apokryphoshope13: right. Use koffice ;-)12:14
malvemun, there is a repository with canon printer drivers12:14
POVaddcthope13: uninstall what?12:14
moosai guess windows well be the prime OS in schools for generations to come12:14
hope13poveaddct: 1.4 java12:14
apokryphosit already isn't in many12:14
bradyeh, in the end X servers only to multiplex my terminals and service a web browser.12:14
malvemun, http://mambo.kuhp.kyoto-u.ac.jp/~takushi/12:14
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malvemun, I don't know if your model is supported though12:15
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POVaddcthope13: did you install with the package manager?12:15
hope13i installed the java 1.4 plugin in firefox and it failed12:15
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malvturboprint may be the only way apart from writing the driver yourself =(12:15
apokryphos1.4 is oldd12:15
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malvI don't like the idea of paying $30 for a printer driver myself12:16
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hope13it was the only one in the add/remove that had the "plugin" for firefox12:16
malvseems, kinda, against the whole open source philosophy12:16
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hope13you torrent it lol12:16
samhello12:16
hope13and get the driver for free12:16
samhow are you al girls12:16
malvpiracy isn't part of the OSS philosophy12:16
bradymalv the os philosophy is not free as in beer.12:16
hope13oh12:16
malvbrady, turboprint isn't open either12:17
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hope13but how are they going to make money? lol12:17
malvsupport12:17
oxygenwhat s default root password this ubuntu ?12:17
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hope13i was hoping to be a linux software programmer one day or something like that12:17
malvyou write the software for free and keep it open, then charge for support12:17
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POVaddct!rootsudo | oxygen12:18
ubotuoxygen: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.12:18
bradyit is tough to complain about OS philosophy when one doesn't consider printer support before buying.12:18
malvif you buy linux compatible hardware, linux is very easy to set up =)12:18
malvalmost all the problems with linux are driver issues12:18
POVaddctoxygen: the root account is disabled by default in ubuntu. use sudo to run something as root.12:18
hope13if it doesn't work you go out and club some penguins12:19
hope13jk12:19
antman_lol12:19
oxygeni cant login12:19
malvjust buy Nvidia... they support linux well12:19
oxygensudo root12:19
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oxygenpassword: rootsudo12:19
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oxygenbut icant login12:19
moosai just love my nvidia card12:19
malvsudo -s12:19
hope13>> you sure? they kept their stuff in binaries12:19
hope13i think intel integrated graphic is open12:20
emunI will look in there so far though no luck with it , I wish I knew how to write the drivers myself12:20
POVaddctoxygen: you misunderstood how to use sudo12:20
malvanyone having problems with jmicron?12:20
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POVaddctoxygen: sudo command   (then sudo asks for your user password)12:20
malvhow well does Intel support linux?12:20
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matthiashi, how can i set the slpash screen after grub-menu to ubuntu-style? after installing kde it has now kubuntu-theme, but i prefer the ubuntu-logo ^^12:20
des1can i boot from ubuntu if i dont have other opereative system ?12:20
hope13they love linux?12:21
finn_how can I make my system automatically pair with the bluetooth keyboard?12:21
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finn_I always need another keyboard to run "hidd --search"12:21
hope13well i know their graphic stuffs are open source12:21
malvI've seen a lot of complaints with people with core 2 duo boards12:21
hchey12:21
hci need some help with xorg.conf12:21
POVaddctmalv: partly very well, like they provide open source drivers for their ethernet, wireless and gfx cards12:21
malvmost of which has to do with the jmicron sata controller12:21
hope13and linux for dummies named intel as a linux loving company12:21
malvPOVaddct, well that's good12:21
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oxygenok i can foud12:21
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spikebhappy holidays :)12:21
POVaddctmalv: dont know about core 2 duo boards though12:22
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oxygendesktop hide icons ..12:22
oxygenhow can i show it ?12:22
oxygeni cant see icons in ubuntu desktop12:22
malvCanon doesn't even recognize the existence of Linux12:22
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matthiasoh, i know it now12:22
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malvit's sad because Canon makes some very good hardware12:22
hope13because there are none when you just install it12:22
hope13you see the two panels no?12:22
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bradymalv, maybe you can set up the printer on a windows box and print to it over network.12:23
Lynouremalv: it's only good if it works. But if you like their products, you could nag at them, if you havent already12:23
hope13if you put a cd in your cd rom a icon appears i think12:23
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emunI wonder you can get drivers for almost any device in linux but when it comes to printers there is a problem12:23
malvLynoure, luckily they support my hardware in Japan12:23
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moosaill just go and play a tux game12:24
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POVaddctemun: wifi cards can also be a problem. thanks to the ignorance of some hardware manufacturers...12:25
hope13how come i can't remove stuff in the add/remove application?12:26
spikebsome?12:26
spikebhow bout ALL :P12:26
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willskillshope13, some can't be removed, it's required for gnome12:26
willskillstry KDE if you find gnome a bit bulky :)12:26
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hope13i just installed the java 1.4 plugin for firefox12:27
hope13i just want it out12:27
Naik0How can i see witch GTK+2 Engine iam using right now?12:27
hope13lol12:27
hope13system menu12:27
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emunwell what happens is some of us migrate from winxp to linux with all our hardware. maybe in the future we can take the limitations in linux before buyting new hardware12:27
hope13then about gnome i think12:27
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Astaroth_how can i set esd to alsa?12:27
gripir_hello :) ... is it possible to update from dapper to edgy with apt?12:28
POVaddcthope13: that should be removable. but i dont use this graphical stuff install/deinstall.12:28
gripir_btw merry xmas ;)12:28
emunpovaddct thanks for all the info much appreciated12:28
POVaddcthope13: i like using apt-get on the command line12:28
hope13oh12:28
Naik0hope13, can i see that in term?12:28
hope13is the an apt-getthehellout ?12:28
spikebgripir_, merry xmas, and yes - let me grab the instructions for you12:28
gripir_spikeb: ok thx12:29
hope13or apt-removeforever lol12:29
malvapt-get remove --purge12:29
zomghaxi12:29
zomghaxhi12:29
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hope13i don't trust malv command12:29
spikebgripir_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades12:29
hope13see what in term Naiko?12:29
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samhope1312:29
samcan  ask questions to you12:30
POVaddcthope13: you can look up the package name of the java plugin by: dpkg -l | grep plugin12:30
samin private rrom12:30
samroom12:30
zomghaxdamn you guys stay up long12:30
hope13i'm a guy sam12:30
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willskillszomghax, is omglol from last night?12:30
POVaddctzomghax: it is 12:29 noon here12:30
spikebzomghax, i love your nick :)12:30
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zomghax=D12:30
moosawhat if someo12:31
samcome12:31
oxygeni have a usb mause benq12:31
ebe-1Hi guys. Any idea why FF2 isn't showing up in the package manager?12:31
oxygenbut it s not work under the ubuntu12:31
oxygen:(12:31
gripir_thx spikeb :)12:31
gripir_cya!12:31
hope13what pirate room?12:32
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hope13private12:32
ebe-1Shouldn't Firefox 2 come up as an update?12:32
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moosai wonder why dont we make linux applications limited to linux only12:32
holycowebe-1, only if a patch is required12:32
samok dont come12:32
ebe-1Oh..12:32
moosai mean windows does that12:32
finn_why should "we" moosa ?12:32
spikebheh moosa12:33
holycowmoosa, its a good queestion.  most developers are apolitical and really want to follow the spirit of the gpl12:33
hope13um i found the java plugin POVaddct god of ubuntu what should i do now?12:33
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holycowmoosa, some are political and think that putting open source on windows smooths the transition12:33
POVaddcthope13: i am not god of ubuntu :))12:33
hope13to a newbie yes12:33
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holycowmoosa, i've come to the opinion that we should eliminate all free software on windows, why make their life easy?12:33
holycow:) but offtopic12:33
POVaddcthope13: now you do: sudo apt-get remove --purge name_of_the_plugin_package12:33
POVaddcthope13: you may have to close the add/remove window before that12:34
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hchttp://raggsokk.net/~hc/Xorg.0.log  <-- help me?12:34
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Naik0How can i change so my Candido GTK+2 Engine is active?12:34
moosai mean why do we switch to linux to get free apps and opensource while we can get it with windows and all of the other applications12:35
POVaddcthope13: apt-get will inform you if it has to remove additional packages depending on the plugin package12:35
spikebmoosa, because we don't want to run windows :)12:36
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moosaand i noticed that linux is not vary supportive for game devs12:36
moosa:(12:36
emunsomeone mentioned setting up printer in a windows box and printing to it over network , how do you do that , do you need a printserver12:36
spikebhow is it not?12:36
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moosalose of directX12:37
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spikebmoosa, bah12:37
spikebmoosa, openGL is still there, as well as other things.12:37
hope13dude thx again POVaddct I have to write this command down lol12:37
hope13in case this happen again lol12:37
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moosawhy dosnt linux have a graphics library for its own that whould move game dev a bit12:38
spikebit has a number of different tools for game programmers, not the least of which might be a little something called OpenGL.12:38
holycowmoosa, it actually has quite a few12:39
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emunbrady, how do set up printer on windows box and print from linux to it12:39
holycowmoosa, the problem is that directx is devd by a very large rich company that gives it away for free12:39
moosawhoa12:40
avisfrequency 712:40
holycowmoosa, to invest in game kit like that you haveto have two things : a large game market and a large game supply side, and you would need to charge for the game kit in some way to continue investing in it.12:40
holycowits a bit of a problem12:40
hope13um graphic programming is actually pretty hard IMO12:40
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holycowfirst we haveto get our userbase much larger so we can start demanding things from hardware manufacturers12:40
holycowgame companies will fall behind us after that12:40
catalyticmerry christmas all12:41
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hope13i think openGL is good enough12:41
holycowunless say for example ps3 suddenly drops to 200$, comes preinstalled with linux and sony decides to do a linux based dev kit thing like ms is doing12:41
catalyticwhat is the process for adding IDE devices (extra hard drives) after ubuntu has been installed?12:41
hope13no they're  giving out that unreal engine12:41
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hope13well partially giving out unreal engine12:41
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moosaopenGL is not friends with OOP programming hopel312:42
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LinTuxWhat make and model or chipset WIFI card will work with Ubuntu straight out of the box?12:42
hope13OOP?12:42
moosacorrection OO12:42
hope13i thought the source code is out?12:42
catalyticmoosa: what is java doing when it uses GL then?12:42
hope13GL is in C12:42
hope13or C++12:42
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hope13lol i enjoy it when UCi student get killed in graphic class12:43
UmbrielHi all, does anyone have an idea about configuring iptables as router and port redirection with a single network card?12:43
moosai dont know i am not a java guy catalytic12:43
catalyticwell java is OO and it seems to handle GL fine12:43
hope13java is interpret and it's slow12:43
catalyticlol12:43
hope13and every single stuff have to be OO12:43
hope13which is sick12:44
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moosanot recommanded for FPS12:44
hope13and it's I/O suck12:44
catalyticjava is slow is it?12:44
hope13yes12:44
catalyticwhat if its done properly?12:44
moosaunless its turn based12:44
hope13i'm comparing it to C12:44
LinTuxWhat make and model or chipset WIFI card will work with Ubuntu straight out of the box?12:44
catalyticand not some amateurs attempt at coding like C in java?12:44
hope13lol12:44
hope13compile language > interprete12:44
hope13no competition12:45
Naik0Please can someone tell me how to activate an GTK+2 Engine?12:45
ZaggynlI played an online fps Java game a while ago....at 10 fps12:45
moosawill wurm is a promising game and it runs on linux112:45
catalyticdipshit programmer + machine = still possibly slower than well written Java12:45
Zaggynlyeah, wurm it was x-D12:45
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hope13i'm comparing it to C and java i don't know what you're comparing it to12:45
hope13or C++12:45
emunhave printer connected to printserver on windows system , is there a way to print to it from linux12:46
moosai recommand that any one who wants to see a good linux game go see wurm12:46
catalyticZaggynl, played jake2?12:46
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Zaggynlnope12:46
catalytick12:46
moosaits java too and runs smoothly12:46
Zaggynllol q2 in java :o12:46
hope13java is slow12:46
hope13it's easy to code12:47
hope13but it's slow12:47
Zaggynland according to their benchmarks, their latest version of jake2 runs faster then its C counterpart12:47
moosai use c++ myself12:47
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hope13google c++ versus java lol12:47
moosanot much oo code tho12:47
hope13or c12:47
catalyticppl bag out different languages, when they dont really understand them12:47
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hope13that one is interpret and the other is compiled12:48
catalyticthe benchmarks are probably based on computations that would never really be used in a normal app12:48
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hope13compare openoffice of window to openoffice of linux12:48
hope13linux runs faster12:48
moosathere is one thing i am glad that i lift in windows12:49
POVaddcthope13: are you sure windows openoffice is written in java?12:49
hope13yeah12:49
hope13it's written in java12:49
hope13last time i check12:49
hope13one sec12:49
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hope13i'll wiki it12:49
moosawin32 (evil music)12:49
catalyticu mean the java VM runs faster in linux12:49
catalyticor the os that the JVM is running on top of, is running faster?12:49
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dcordesare there any pdas that are known for good linux support?12:50
catalyticipaq12:50
POVaddcthey dcordes12:50
moosai get 20 more fps in wurm so java could be faster in linux12:50
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POVaddctdcordes: did you get my mail?12:50
catalytichttp://www.idiom.com/~zilla/Computer/javaCbenchmark.html12:51
catalyticanyways12:51
catalyticmac vs pc, java vs c, ati vs radeon, nintendo vs sony12:51
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Naik0Can someone help me find "gtk2-engines-rezlooks_0.6-1_i386.deb" would be great!12:51
catalyticcan anyone help me add extra IDE harddrives to an already configured install of ubuntu?12:51
midgetg0athrm....anyone know where i can find the apache2 log file on edgy? it doesnt appear to be starting...12:51
Juhazonly version of OOo that used java is neooffice for mac, and even that's only partially.12:52
dcordesPOVaddct: ah yea i read it yesterday evening. my problem is the following: i can't use the method descriped in your gfx because i don't have a third box.... but i found another method that may be ok12:52
dcordesbut thanks a lot man12:52
hope13mmm still looking12:52
hope13oh well12:52
hope13c>java in term of speed12:52
POVaddctdcordes: okay12:52
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hope13in term of easiness i think java wins12:52
hope13i don't even think java deals with pointer12:52
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catalyticdoesnt have to12:52
catalyticand it has garbage collection12:52
dcordesPOVaddct: i have to go fetch my grandpa now have a nice christmas12:52
hope13yeah12:52
midgetg0atso...no one knows the apache2 log file location? :)12:53
kenhope13: Pointers dont exist for Java, objects exists12:53
hope13that's a double edge sword12:53
hope13garbage collector are slow12:53
hope13but easy12:53
catalyticlol12:53
catalytichope12:53
catalyticread that link that i posted12:53
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catalytic"Most programmers say garbage collection is or should be slow, with no given reason- it's assumed but never discussed. Some computer language researchers say otherwise."12:53
kenPlease help: What are the consequences/advantages/disadvantages of using FAT32 as the FileSystem for My Linux machine12:54
catalyticcant believe im sitting in an irc room on christmas night defending java12:54
catalyticand all i want to do is install an extra hard drive12:54
catalyticah the wonders of irc12:54
antman_lol12:54
midgetg0ati just wanna get my lil apache2 setup going :(12:54
moosaand i want to know how to use .tar files12:55
hope13reding12:55
midgetg0atlocate apache2 yields nothing, yet, etc/init.d/stop says "Stopping apache 2.0 web server..."12:55
midgetg0atwell, apache2 stop12:55
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hope13some versus most lol12:55
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kenWhat are the consequences/advantages/disadvantages of using FAT32 as the FileSystem for My Linux machine?12:56
jattfunest consequeces, no advantages12:57
Juhazyou can't use fat3212:57
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gripir_spikeb: there is a problem12:58
kenJatt: please elaborate12:58
kenJuhaz: Why?12:58
spikebgripir_, what's that?12:58
gripir_Failed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/dists/dapper/free/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found12:58
gripir_Failed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/dists/dapper/non-free/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found12:58
Juhazit doesn't support posix file permissions, and several kinds of special files which you absolutely need for a working system12:58
gripir_sry for pasting.12:58
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spikebgripir_, change dapper to edgy-plf. also, sometimes plf goes down12:58
gripir_where can I do this?12:59
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NineTeen67CometHi all .. does anyone know of a good gdesklet like app (that makes the icon bar like "MacOS X") .. I've been playing with e-live e16 cd and it's got one that's just smooth .. ideas?12:59
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spikebgripir_, by editing /etc/apt/sources.list12:59
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gripir_and there every dapper to edgy?12:59
FirstStrikeNineTeen67Comet: adesklets01:00
gripir_ah I think I got it01:00
NineTeen67CometFirstStrike: adesklets .. gotchya .. a'googaling I go .. thank you ..01:00
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jattken: because vfat is intended to be a Windows95/Windows NT compatible extended MSDOS filesystem and no linux filesystem? Isn't that enough reason?01:01
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hope13i'mma choose wiki java defense on why it's slow01:02
hope13lol01:02
gripir_Failed to fetch http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/dists/edgy/free/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found <-- maybe  it is really down :S01:02
fabian_hi. does anyone have experience with the Netgear WG111v2 wireless adapter?01:03
hope13they only use one compiler and it's c++01:03
hope13g++01:03
kenjatt: i am getting lot of compatibility problems to make Windows and Ubuntu to see each others partitions. SO i formatted Windows and installed a new XP on FAT32 (so ubuntu can safely read/write) now i am going to format Ubuntu and i need a file-system that is 100%compatible with Windows. So tell me what should i keep the Ubuntu's partition's file-system as?01:03
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fabian_ps: i'm a total noob to irc^^01:03
NineTeen67CometFirstStrike: do you know by chance if it'll be okay with Beryl/AIXGL/Nvidia going? .. I've found that FrostWire does not work with Beryl running ..01:03
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hope13irc = all my manga/anime01:04
sciboyG'day.01:04
hclo sciboy01:04
sciboyI was curious, what do i need to do to get my system to autodetect my hardware and fill in most of my Xorg.conf?01:04
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bubbleshi01:05
bubblesis it possible to change that boot-splash?01:05
jattken: I don't understand why you need a filesystem that is 100% compatible with windows. What do you mean with "100% compatible"? Why is ext{2|3} not enough in your case?01:05
kenjatt: Windows can't read/write to it! Thats why.01:06
POVaddct!ext301:06
ubotuext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org01:06
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bubblesafaik it was possible on breezy, but not on dapper or edgy01:06
jattken: there are ports of ext{2|3} to windows, AFAIK. Or you can use SAMBA to write to your linux partition.01:06
kenjatt: What is SAMBA?01:07
jatt!samba01:07
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT01:07
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kenjatt: Is it easy for me to learn/use or has it got all the complexities generally associated with Linux?01:07
POVaddctjatt: samba is of no use in a dual-boot scenario01:08
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moosaheh well i guess its a chanse to play with python a little01:08
jattken: I am not sure if samba is for you (a single pc). So I would take a look at the ext{2|3} ports for windows.01:08
POVaddct!ext301:08
ubotuext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org01:08
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jattexactly, that's what I meant01:08
kenPOVaddct: Have you used that driver reliably?01:08
POVaddctken: no01:09
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kenjatt: you?01:09
POVaddctken: can't tell how stable it is01:09
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kenPOVaddct: I noticed that the files i write through that driver, MAYBE causing Ubuntu to re-check the journal of my HDD at boot-up01:09
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brian_hello01:10
jattken: I don't use windows01:10
kenPOVaddct: jatt: OK, thank you for helping me01:11
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POVaddctken: i would have a different approach to sharing files between linux and windows on a dual boot machine. leaving windows on a ntfs filesystem, linux on a ext3 filesystem and have a spare partition with fat32 for both systems to read/write01:11
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Brandoo#ubuntu-at01:12
kenPOVaddct: I want to avoid having a extra partition dedicated to 'sharing' data.01:12
POVaddctken: hmm01:12
brian_I love ubuntu01:12
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kenbrian_: And what does ubuntu think og you? ;-)01:12
ken*of01:12
moosai didnt find a reason to love ubuntu yet :(01:12
brian_It is faster than Windows Xp01:13
jattmoosa: do you hate ubuntu?01:13
moosanot really i hate .tar files01:13
hope13ubuntu have nice eye candy01:13
POVaddctjatt: not loving doesn't mean hating01:13
hope13and it's not written in java >,>01:13
hope13lol01:13
moosajava is bitter then VB.NET lmo01:14
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hope13i still can't think of a reason why java is faster that c++01:14
jatthope13: is it?01:14
hcog 3 sekunder  bytte p.01:14
moosajava is written is c++01:14
hcdamn01:14
moosai think01:14
hope13it's not suppose to be fast lol cuz interpret versus compiler01:15
hope13other wise Linux should be written in Java01:15
kenWhat use is a 'journal' of the EXT3 FS?01:15
moosabad c++ code < good java code01:15
hope13lol bad c++ code = seg fault = memory leak = blue screen of death01:16
jatt!journal01:16
moosaomfg01:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about journal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:16
jatthm crap :(01:16
POVaddctken: a journalling file system is more robust and does not need lengthy checking after power outages01:16
moosai didnt get the blue screen in years i kind of missed it01:17
hope13no it's horrible and bad coding01:17
hope13lol01:17
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POVaddctmoosa: write a blue screen emulator :)01:17
moosagood idea01:17
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kenPOVaddct: So if i use a windows driver to write to a EXT3 FS, than will i disrupt the 'journal'?01:17
hope13just set a pointer to null and then em01:17
hope13what's that term01:17
hope13reference it01:18
brainiac_ghostjust wanna wish you all a merry christmas01:18
moosai mean linux dosnt crash so i have to make a crash applet for it :D01:18
brainiac_ghostken: not neccaserilly01:18
POVaddctmoosa: actually, some screen savers in linux have blue screen modes01:18
kenbrainiac_ghost: please elaborate01:18
brainiac_ghostken: i believe ext3 updates the journal when it is fsck'd if it was written in ext2 mode01:18
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POVaddctken: no, ext3 can be used as ext2. however, the journal isn't used as long as it is used as ext2.01:19
brainiac_ghostken: and ext3 will journal the futeure transactions when used as ext301:19
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moosai want to know how to write some binary01:19
moosa(1 0)01:20
kenbrainiac_ghost: POVaddct: So at every boot-up, before Ubuntu starts, i will have to wait for fsck to check my HDDs and update the journals, if i have writen to a EXT3 partition from Windows in the previous boot? This happens when i write Data using that driver from windows to the EXT3 partition01:20
moosai want to see how it all started01:20
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brainiac_ghostken: dunno, i just had a shared fat partition :P01:20
POVaddctken: i really dont know how the windows ext2/3 driver works01:21
kenanyone else?01:21
hope13neone want to play a secret game in gnome?01:21
jamoosa, the most basic google search would have found this for you http://www.math.grin.edu/~rebelsky/Courses/152/97F/Readings/student-binary.html01:22
hope13moosa you love games01:22
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moosagames == my life01:22
rcrookok... why does unrar-free not want to extract anything??????01:22
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rcrookdoes the -free mean doesnt work????01:22
DeagsDoesLinuxmoosa what games u play?01:22
hope13do a : alt+f2 and type gegls from outer space  and enter01:22
POVaddcti am not a gamer at all. in old atari st times i used to be one.01:23
moosabefore linux i was playing hallf life 201:23
moosa*Sniff* i miss it01:23
DeagsDoesLinuxu can play hl2 in linux i believe01:23
brainiac_ghostmoosa: i miss wow01:23
brainiac_ghostmoosa: but meh01:23
hope131: alt+f2 2: type: gegls from outer space 2: enter01:23
moosaas well wolf.e.t01:23
DeagsDoesLinuxi know wow works in linux01:23
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oxygeni need nvidia driver for linux01:24
xpc!hu01:24
oxygen:)01:24
ubotuHa magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #ubuntu-hu01:24
oxygenubuntu01:24
xyzhay can any one help with amsn tcl01:24
xyzhow do i sudo apt-get amsn-tcl01:24
moosai played almost every mmo games out there in the web01:24
DeagsDoesLinuxthe only problem with wow is u need like 1000 gb to play it lmao01:24
hope13T_T some1 do the gegls from outer space lol01:25
DeagsDoesLinuxim installing ultime online for a free shard at the moment01:25
DeagsDoesLinuxultima even01:25
jooopymewhat is the name of the unstable tree?01:25
moosaok i hate .tar files now01:25
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POVaddctfeisty01:25
FirstStrike!nvidia | oxygen01:26
ubotuoxygen: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:26
oxygenok01:26
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moosaeasy ubuntu is a easy choise tho01:26
DeagsDoesLinuxwhat if u dont know what video card you have because its intigrated?01:27
moosait maked ubuntu a little easyer for me01:27
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FirstStrikeDeagsDoesLinux: I just installed the Vanguard beta. After patching, it's 9.76 gigs.01:27
oxygenhow can i use apt-search ?01:27
oxygeni want to use search01:27
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POVaddctoxygen: apt-cache search ...01:27
DeagsDoesLinuxeww @ first strike thats rough01:27
FirstStrikeYea..01:27
FirstStrike Diskspace: 413.43G Free: 4.61G01:27
fl1how can i force the instalation of a package?01:28
FirstStrike-f01:28
DeagsDoesLinuxi hate world of warcraft lol so i always poke at how its like 6 dvds now and every patch is like 2 gig01:28
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DeagsDoesLinuxlol01:28
oxygeni cant find nvdia01:28
moosawurm ftw01:28
moosaits wayyyy better then wow01:28
DeagsDoesLinuxwhats wurm?01:28
moosaand its java :P01:28
DeagsDoesLinuxooo01:29
FirstStrikeI play Ragnarok Online and Saga of Ryzom01:29
moosagoogle wurm online01:29
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FirstStrikeBoth run well under wine01:29
DeagsDoesLinuxahh nice01:29
DeagsDoesLinuxim venturing into uo right now no idea if it will work under wine it should tho its like 10 years old01:29
DeagsDoesLinuxlol01:29
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FirstStrikecheck the wine appsdb to see if it's listed as working01:30
moosai wish they add wurm in ubuntu package01:30
moosaits addictive01:30
DeagsDoesLinuxwell its installing and everything01:30
FirstStrikeinstalling is always the easy part01:30
DeagsDoesLinuxand it has to work because i know people who play off linux01:30
moosaif you want more graphics download optional packs01:31
FirstStrikeheh..heh...just because they're playing on linux doesn't mean it worked out of the box01:31
FirstStrikesometimes you have to patch wine/your kernel, compile a new kernel or make some other modifications to get things working01:31
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DeagsDoesLinuxim sure it did those people r dumber then i am01:31
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moosaand if you set graphics to the mix your eyes are going to crash01:31
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DeagsDoesLinuxlol01:31
DeagsDoesLinuxill get it soon01:32
samlol01:32
moosaIF your g-card can handle it first01:32
DeagsDoesLinuxafter this uo gets done01:32
DeagsDoesLinuxits free moosa?01:32
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moosabasic acc yeah01:32
FirstStrikeback in wine 0.9.19 i had to compile a new kernel, patch wine and compile that from scratch and make modifications in the saga of ryzom .ini to get it running without graphic glitches + have sound.01:32
moosayou can build houses forge farm etc01:32
cvasilakhi there, anyone knows when the official postgresql 8.2 package will appear on the official package repository?01:32
FirstStrikethat was rough01:32
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baroslproftpd, vsftpd, pureftpd01:32
FirstStrikecvasilak: when somebody adds it.01:32
moosaplay as a guest first01:32
baroslwhat ftpd do you use?01:32
cvasilakFirstStrike: oh ok, pretty smart...01:33
FirstStrikei've always preferred pureftpd01:33
DeagsDoesLinuxok ill get it soon01:33
FirstStrikecvasilak: nobody here has any idea when something will be added to the repository. even something major like wine took 3 days for .28 to get on there.01:33
moosai suggest anyone who missed WOW in windows to play wurm01:33
FirstStrikeI prefer to play a game that's actually challenging and not full of retards.01:34
DeagsDoesLinuxima go lay down while uo patches01:34
DeagsDoesLinuxlol01:34
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moosaDeagsDoesLinux,  wurm wont be welcoming at start its hard01:35
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moosaand dont wander off to much or a spider will kill you01:35
sammerry christmas to all people01:35
DeagsDoesLinuxok01:35
DeagsDoesLinuxn u sam01:36
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moosaplaying BASS atm anyone can help me?01:36
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linux_usercan anyone tell me something? is it safe to use automatix2?01:38
apokryphos!automatix01:38
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe01:38
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brainiac_ghost!easyubuntu01:40
ubotueasyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu01:40
apokryphoslinux_user: that's a no01:40
brainiac_ghostsee, easyubuntu is less dangerous than automatix01:40
linux_usereasyubuntu is a program something like automatix?01:40
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jattlinux_user: NO NO NO never use automatix, NEVER01:40
brainiac_ghostlinux_user: kinda01:40
nolimitsoyalinux_user, with the exeption that it actualy works :)01:41
nolimitsoya*c01:41
brainiac_ghostlinux_user: easier just to uncomment the repoositorys and apt-get install (whatever)01:41
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moosaomg (removes automix from his computer)01:41
linux_userthnx guys. in faq i found that "my buddies on #ubuntu tells me is not safe to use automatix". that's why i asked you01:41
apokryphosor easier to see the documentation and FAQ01:41
apokryphoslinux_user: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic01:41
brainiac_ghostlinux_user: oh and HAPPY CHRISTMAS :P01:42
kensudo apt-get windows-vista-premium01:42
linux_userthnx guys01:43
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brainiac_ghostken: sudo apt-get remove windows-vista-premium -oh-my-god-i-didn't-want-you-installed-in-the-first-place01:43
FirstStrikeken: haha..so true01:43
ken:)01:44
nolimitsoyaken, FirstStrike, http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt01:44
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moosais linux friends with sony consoles?01:45
kenmoosa: ya01:45
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kennolimitsoya: Maybe you could help; >i am getting lot of compatibility problems to make Windows and Ubuntu to see each others partitions. SO i formatted Windows and installed a new XP on FAT32 (so ubuntu can safely read/write) now i am going to format Ubuntu and i need a file-system that is 100%compatible with Windows. So tell me what should i keep the Ubuntu's partition's file-system as?01:45
moosaso will linux aid it in the fight aginst the evil windows01:45
FirstStrikenolimitsoya: Sorry, but at nearly 5 am when I haven't slept yet that's way too much writing01:45
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FirstStrikeken: ext3 should be fine..01:46
FirstStrikeken: there's software you can install on windows that'll let you access your linux partition/drive just fine.01:46
FirstStrikeubuntu should auto-mount your windows drive01:46
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nolimitsoyaken, ext2/3 can be read from windows with the ext2ifs driver from fs-driver.org and id recommend ntfs-3g for writing to windows ntfs drives01:47
kennolimitsoya: FirstStrike: Is this true: So at every boot-up, before Ubuntu starts, i will have to wait for fsck to check my HDDs and update the journals, if i have writen to a EXT3 partition from Windows in the previous boot? This happens when i write Data using that driver from windows to the EXT3 partition01:47
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FirstStrikeken: what? no, that's not normal.01:47
brainiac_ghostFirstStrike: i would reccomend: windows: ntfs, data (mounted as /media/data - world read/writeable) - fat32 and ubuntu ext301:47
Spitfireleethow do i enable my wifi connection through terminal? this is because i can't enable it properly through Network Settings01:47
nolimitsoyaken, no you shouldnt...01:47
kennolimitsoya: FirstStrike: As i believe that when i write some data from Windows using that driver, it doesn;t update the journal.01:48
brainiac_ghostken: yeah, but journal is just a recovery thing01:48
nolimitsoyaken, thats try, but it doesnt have to. ext3 is just ext2 without the journal01:48
hope13are you guys trying to get linux to write to window partition?01:48
nolimitsoya*with01:48
brainiac_ghostken: as long as the write finishes successfully01:48
FirstStrike!wifi | Spitfireleet01:48
ubotuSpitfireleet: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:48
brainiac_ghostken: it doesn't *need* to01:48
nolimitsoya*csync/01:49
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hope13use Samba01:49
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hope13>,>01:49
FirstStrikesamba works01:49
nolimitsoyaken, if you get the fsck you didnt sync or get a clean unmount01:49
FirstStrikeeasy to setup. i use that myself for my laptop/desktop01:49
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SpitfireleetFirstStrike: bash says event not found01:50
hope13hope13 = noob = only knows useless stuff like = free the fish01:50
nolimitsoyahope13, free the fish?01:50
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FirstStrikenolimitsoya: alt + f2 and type in "free the fish" with no quotes01:51
kennolimitsoya: FirstStrike: brainiac_ghost: Consider this scenario: I boot-up windows and write something in my EXT3 partitions using the FS-DRIVER.org's dirver, than the journal of the fs is not updated. Next time i boot Ubuntu i am having a unfinished journal and it fired up fsck to update the journal and i sit foolishly in front of the PC, as it slowly updates the journal at ubuntu boot?01:51
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nolimitsoyaken, nope01:52
nolimitsoyaken, if you need the checking you didnt sync/unmount clean01:52
kennolimitsoya: FirstStrike brainiac_ghost: Do you agree that the Windows driver doesn't update the journal.01:52
hope13nolimitsoya : if you have gnome: do alt+f2 ; type "free the fish"; press enter01:52
nolimitsoyaken, yes01:52
nolimitsoyahope13, i dont :P01:52
kennolimitsoya: But in the previous boot i wrote something from Windows to EXT3, and clicked on shutdown, there is no way windows can perform a non-clean mount01:53
FirstStrike=\01:53
nolimitsoyaxfce user01:53
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hope13dang lol01:53
nolimitsoyaken, of course it can.01:53
moosaget that fish off my screen X(01:53
kennolimitsoya: So if the journal is incomplete wouldn't ubuntu have to update it? And i have to sit there like a foolish punk waiting for it to scan my 160GB drive?01:53
FirstStrikenolimitsoya: it just makes a fish swim around on your desktop01:53
nolimitsoyaken, no it shouldnt01:53
brainiac_ghostken: not neccaserilly01:53
nolimitsoyaken, as i said, ext3 can be mounted as ext2, and then the journal is just disregarded. the journal is just a list of operations. it doesnt have to be complete01:54
brainiac_ghostken: i think it is because a journal is just a recovery measure if the write *fails* which if windows syncs and unmounts then it won't01:54
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kennolimitsoya: brainiac_ghost: 1)You agree that when writing from Windows the journal is incomplete, so when is the journal completed?01:54
nolimitsoyaken, not incomplete, disregarded. it doesnt have to be completed01:54
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FirstStrikerunning into the brick wall doesn't seem to be working on him01:55
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brainiac_ghostken: a journal is a list of operations in order, if there are operations but it isn't liosted then it is still done, and they don't bother to list it01:55
kennolimitsoya: So you speak out of personal experience that using that Windows driver doesn;t in any way cause fsck, or other ill-effects?01:55
midgetg0at"* /usr/sbin/apache is not executable, not starting/reloading... [fail] " whats that about? trying to get a little dev server setup01:56
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FirstStrikeken: I use ext2ifs all the time with no hitches.01:56
nolimitsoyaken, a journal is a place where the fs writes stuff like 'im going to do <this>' and 'now ive done <that>'. if the journal says 'im going to do <this> <there>' but there is no corresponding 'ive done <that> <there>' the fs will assume all data in that area is bust. its doesnt hur if there is no journal for some operations. it will just not be seen01:56
nolimitsoyaken, wikipeda will probably help you understand journaling better than i can with limited time in an irc channel, but thats the breakdown01:57
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nolimitsoyaken, the journal doesnt have to be complete01:57
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kennolimitsoya: I understand, thanks for the effort, i really appreciate it01:57
kenbrainiac_ghost: FirstStrike: Thank you, i appreciate all of y'all's efforts01:57
y3it221_klcedoubt, why cant we install two applications togeather, why do we need to wait01:57
nolimitsoyaken, no problem :)01:58
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brainiac_ghostken: NP01:58
midgetg0atanyone w/ apache experience? server doestn seem to want to start...01:58
brainiac_ghostken: got nothing better to do this fine christmas01:58
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nolimitsoyay3it221_klce, im leaping in to thing here, but to install several apps in the same time, just type one after another: sudo apt-get install <app1> <app2> <etc>01:58
fotoflohey all01:59
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nolimitsoya*things01:59
kennolimitsoya: brainiac_ghost: FirstStrike: Thank you, and have a good day, and HAPPY UBUNT-ing :001:59
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fotofloim having some trouble with a computer that I had trouble with before, and fixed, and is now not working again01:59
[^Twen^] hi01:59
fotoflobasicly DHCPDISCOVER is failing01:59
[^Twen^] is there any "remote-control" system included in ubuntu?01:59
fotoflodoes anyone have time to help?01:59
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willskillsit's christmas day......... go eat :D02:00
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fotoflomy router says the subnet mask is 255.255.255.0, but my ubuntu box is doing a dhcp discover on 255.255.255.25502:01
fotoflocould that be the problem?02:01
rambo3so02:01
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fotofloand how do i fix it?02:01
rambo3fotoflo, man route02:01
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Mihaii tried to install debian 3.1 rc4 and everything worked fine until I tried to enter in graphic mode02:02
Mihaiwhich failled and got the following message: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38760/02:02
fotofloi think route assumes that i can get to  my router? but when i ping my router i get network unavailable02:03
Mihaiany suggestions?02:03
rambo3and i dont think there is enything to fix there02:03
nolimitsoyafotoflo, then you probably didnt get a dhcp lease. is surfing working correctly?02:03
rambo3Mihai, wrong channel02:03
Mihaisorry02:04
Mihai:)02:04
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fotoflonothing is working02:04
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fotofloI didnt get a dhcp lease, correct02:04
nolimitsoyafotoflo, then you need to fix it :)02:05
fotofloduh02:05
fotoflothats why im here02:05
fotoflohow do i fix it?02:05
nolimitsoyafotoflo, well, we most likely cant support third party routers. youll have to read the documentation02:05
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fotoflobtw. every time i start up this box, the NIC thinks its addy is 00;00;00;00;0002:06
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fotoflothis isnt a router problem02:06
kitchefotoflo: that's ipv6 which your rotuer does not use02:06
fotoflono02:06
kitcherouter*02:06
nolimitsoyafotoflo, how do you know?02:06
fotoflothats a MAC addy02:06
fotofloifconfig02:06
moosahow much easy is debian for beginners?02:06
nolimitsoyamoosa, none at all02:06
rambo3fotoflo, check dmesg for your net nic . it might me fouly or missing some driver02:06
nolimitsoyacompared to ubuntu, that is...02:06
kitchefotoflo: ah ok you said addy that's why I got confused :P02:07
moosa haves more tutorials tho...02:07
nolimitsoyamoosa, and most of them are valid for ubuntu as well02:07
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fotofloerr02:07
Spitfireleetwhat is the technical term for built in wi-fi?02:07
moosai wonder if i could find one about tarballs02:07
fotofloi forgot the command to pipe to show a few lines at a time02:07
nolimitsoyaSpitfireleet, on board wifi?02:07
nolimitsoya:)02:07
kitchemoosa: man tar should give you some examples02:08
nolimitsoyamoosa, wikipedia is nice02:08
LattywareMerry Christmas All02:08
fotoflodmesg|what  where what is the command to show one page oat a time instead of flooding my term02:08
fotofloahh02:09
fotoflomore02:09
kitcheor less02:09
moosai wonder if i could run dev-c++ under wine...02:09
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hope13use emacs02:10
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hope13without a mouse02:10
hope13lol02:10
TricoreHello02:10
fotoflook, what the heck am i looking for inside this huge dmesg?02:10
hope13hi02:10
LattywareYou know what would be really pointless? Imagine if you rand Windows... Under VMWare... under Wine!02:11
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hope13you have too much time lattyware02:11
hope13you should try it out02:11
LattywareI have too much free brain power02:11
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Lattyware:P02:11
hope13lol02:11
nolimitsoyaLattyware, you know what would be realy pointless? imagine if you ran windows... ;)02:11
Lattywarelol02:11
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LattywareOn a side note,02:12
LattywareDoes the fact that it takes 6 hours to get 80% through transcoding my music into MP3 show that: a) The Ipod should support OGG b) My CPU is too slow c) I have too much music02:12
TricoreHow do I change my mouse (trackpoint) sensitivity from command line? I've tried using the GNOME configuration thing for this, but I don't want mouse accelleration, just a MUCH higher sensitivity.02:12
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hope13ipod sucks imo lol02:12
nolimitsoyaLattyware, that ipods are vendor lockin crap :)02:12
LattywareYeah, but there arn't many MP3 players with 80GB of space02:12
hope13true02:12
nolimitsoyaLattyware, there are loads02:12
TricoreWhat about 3rd party firmware?02:13
nolimitsoyacheck out irivier, iaudio and the like02:13
hope13wait lol02:13
nolimitsoya*-02:13
nolimitsoya**-i02:13
hope13iriver have a 120 gb02:13
nolimitsoyacant type today >_<02:13
LattywareBut how much does that cost?02:13
hope13their old mother02:13
hope13model02:13
hope13pretty cheap02:13
hope13it's old02:13
fotoflook i did a dmsg eth0|grep eth0|more02:13
nolimitsoyaLattyware, less than an ipod02:13
fotofloand there sa lot of crap02:13
LattywareMeh, I have it now, so whatever.02:13
fotoflobut basicly i tthink sometyhings messed up02:13
fotoflotoo many 0's02:13
hope13my friend partition the ipod nano and got doom and linux on it02:14
hope13lol02:14
fotofloNETDEV WATCHDOG eth0 transmit timed otu02:14
TricoreDoes anyone know how to change mouse sensitivity without using the GNOME application for it ?02:14
LattywareI'd snap a nano in half :/02:14
rambo3otu?02:14
hope13aout02:15
hope13out02:15
fotoflos/otu/out02:15
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fotoflomaybe i should just reinstall this bitch02:15
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rambo3fotoflo, you might search that frase on google .02:15
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LattywareI've just realised, I have a Linux PC, an Apple MP3 player, and a Microsoft Keyboard and mouse02:16
Lattywareinteresting02:16
fotoflo"reinstall this bitch"?02:16
jatthe02:16
rambo3fotoflo,  that or NETDEV WATCHDOG eth0 transmit timed out , witch ever helps02:16
FirstStrikelogitech keyboard/mouse for me02:17
FirstStrikeand i have some obscure RCA mp3 player that's not even listed on the RCA website.02:17
Lattywareheh02:17
LattywareI like the M$ keyboard and mouse actually02:17
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Lattywarethey work pretty well02:17
Lattywareand it's not one of these soft keyboards02:17
Lattywarewhich I cannot type on02:17
hope13ms mouse died on me once T_T02:17
LattywareI need to feel when I have pressed a key.02:18
hope132nd one is dying too02:18
pucko-how do I change my grub-config so that "sudo grub-update" wont restore it to the defaults every time?02:18
LattywareThe only thing is the mouse's scroll wheel click sucks02:18
LattywareI now press left&right at once.02:18
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Lattywarewhich is kinda annoying02:18
needhel1When watching videos on YouTube, I get no sound. Why?02:18
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LattywareNewest Flash player?02:19
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fotofloi think im just gonna reinstall... too many problems02:19
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nnLattyware: 9 beta02:19
rambo3pucko-, plave outputs above in example . it will update and add new kernel on bottom02:19
rambo3plav/place02:19
Lattywaredon't know then02:19
nolimitsoyafotoflo, a tip, put your /home on a separate partition if you havent already02:19
LattywareIf you were using an old version, that might be it02:19
pucko-rambo3: above in what example?02:19
rambo3./boot/hrub/menu.lst02:20
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needhel1Lattyware: dont know which version Im using, but theres no "update notification" icon on the panel02:20
kalleperssonHi there, I've got a problem when I'm trying to install Ubuntu 6.10 on my laptop. When I select "Start or install Ubuntu", the screen goes black except for a blinking _ in the top left, and nothing happens.02:20
rambo3and hrub is new grub02:20
pucko-rambo3: oh I see. never mind. thanks.02:20
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nnhrub?02:20
Lattywareneedhel1: ... Didn't you say you had 9 beta?02:20
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kalleperssonAnyone got any help for me?02:21
needhel1Lattyware: didnt say anything about version02:21
mojojojo___hi! my ubunut slows painfully down from time to time. It's Athlon 1800+ so it's not CPU usage. I installed nvidia drivers so it's not that either02:21
Lattywareoh, that was someone else... weird02:21
rambo3vad?02:21
mojojojo___what might be the cause?02:21
Lattywareanyway, sorry, I don't know then.02:21
kitchemojojojo___: top and see what is causing it02:21
needhel1Lattyware: yes must be:p   How do I check which flashplayer version I use?02:21
nolimitsoyamojojojo___, use the system monitor to check02:21
mellowtraxHi a newbie to ubuntu, I have a simple question someone might be able to answer, I have the live dvd of 6.1 running and my wireless picks up, but when i install, no wireless, what am i doing wrong?02:21
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Lattywareneedhel1: Not all that sure, sorry, I'm not that knowledgeable. yet. :P02:22
hcmellowtrax: any encryption?02:22
rambo3kallepersson, that sound like HD failiure not  ubuntu one ,, do you have any wirking os on that laptop02:22
mojojojo___it doesn't show anything unusual. Besides I'm not running many timeconsuming apps besides firefox, I guess02:22
mellowtraxno none, i'm not getting the network manager, on install02:22
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kalleperssonrambo, nope. I had winxp before but when I tried to install ubuntu before (5.1 at that moment)02:23
kalleperssonBut it got deleted02:23
mojojojo___the most consuming app right now is xmms - and it takes ~20% of cpu usage :/... How come its so big? ?02:23
vithi all :)02:23
needhel1When watching videos on YouTube, I get no sound. Why?02:23
vitcan enybody help ?02:24
kalleperssonneedhel1: perhaps you need to update your flash player02:24
mojojojo___needhel1, you have to change firefox config02:24
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rambo3kallepersson, well it sound like maby win is still there and cd is not booting02:24
fotofloneedhel1: you have to reinstall ubuntu02:24
mojojojo___anyone?02:24
vitwhere to get a firewall for ubuntu ?02:24
hcmellowtrax: okey. open your terminal, and type sudo apt-get install network-manager02:24
kitcheneedhel1: actually your sound is being used by something else probably ESD02:24
rambo3mbr that is02:24
needhel1fotoflo: ohh... :O Thank you for your assistance02:24
kalleperssonWell, it shouldn't be since I already reformated the drive before02:25
mojojojo___vit get iptables02:25
humehi... how do I  adjust the size of an existing ntfs-partition with win on it when installing ubuntu?02:25
kalleperssonand its partitioned as well02:25
kitchevit: ubuntu has one already to make it easy to configure use firestarter02:25
mojojojo___needhel1,  is it when you play music during web surfing?02:25
needhel1mojojojo___: which config where in firefox should I look for?02:25
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needhel1kallepersson: I think I have the latest flashplayer... dunno how to check which version I have02:25
mellowtraxCan Someone tell me why wireless works on the live DVD but not when you install02:25
mojojojo___needhel1, /etc/firefox/firefoxrc02:25
vitthanks all !02:25
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viti'll try02:26
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fotofloi installed redhat years ago and everything was much smoother02:26
needhel1kitche: how do I make sure nothing else uses the sound? I dont play any mp3's or similar atm02:26
LinTuxwhich wireless adaptor will work straight out of the box with Ubuntu?02:26
mojojojo___needhel1, change to --> from #FIREFOX_DSP="none" to02:26
mojojojo___FIREFOX_DSP="aoss"02:26
nnfotoflo: hardware wasnt nearly so complicated02:26
nolimitsoyafotoflo, you could try out the latest fedora if you think idd suit you better02:26
mojojojo___needhel1, this helped for me02:26
rambo3kallepersson, and there is no mbr ? check if ubuntu cd is valid02:26
kalleperssonrambo3: , what is mbr?02:27
nolimitsoyafotoflo, my guess is youd have the very same problems, plus a trip to dependency hell :)02:27
nnfotoflo: also, all the hotplug and everything for clueless windows freaks has ruined the *nix experience02:27
mojojojo___soooo, anyone can tell me why my xmms takes bloody 20% of CPU?02:27
fotofloi just have a simple everything-on-board motherboard02:27
kalleperssonRambo3: a "loader" with the ubuntu logo shows up if i select another screen resolution02:27
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LinTux which wireless adaptor will work straight out of the box with Ubuntu?02:27
nolimitsoyafotoflo, those arent simple in the lease02:27
nolimitsoya*least02:28
kitcheLinTux: there is many02:28
nolimitsoyaLinTux, check the wifi documentation02:28
vitis there anybody from moldova?02:28
nnLinTux: i've had good experience with linksys products02:28
LinTuxcheers02:28
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fotofloeverything (actully im only having trouble with my NIC) seemed to work from the live-cd02:29
needhel1mojojojo___: changed the config, closed down firefox and started it again. No difference - still no sound02:29
nnfotoflo: what nic?02:29
fotofloon board02:29
fotoflo100bt02:29
mellowtraxFotoflo, me too, wireless works from live but not when i install 6.102:29
fotoflomine is just plain old 100BT02:29
nolimitsoyamellowtrax, fotoflo, you should file bugreports02:29
mellowtraxhow?02:29
fotofloi cant get online02:30
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fotoflohow can i file a bug report02:30
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kenshinI have a problem with CUPS, it locks up my whole system when I try to add a new printer, or when I run lpinfo -v ... can anyone give me a hand with it?02:30
nolimitsoyafotoflo, you are now ;)02:30
fotofloduh02:30
fotoflo2 computers02:30
mellowtraxi'm on via live disk02:30
nolimitsoyafotoflo, point being...?02:30
mellowtraxh#ubuntuow do i report a bug?02:30
mojojojo___needhel1, that as far as I am able to help, sorry02:30
nightfreakanyone using a vodfone datacard?02:30
nolimitsoya!bugs | fotoflo mellowtrax02:30
ubotufotoflo mellowtrax: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots02:30
fotofloi cant copy any kind of dumps from that computer02:30
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nolimitsoyafotoflo, get a floppy02:31
kitcheor a usb drive02:31
fotoflodont have a floppy drive02:31
nnfotoflo: what's dmesg|grep eth say?02:31
needhel1mojojojo___: k02:31
mellowtraxthanks will look into it.02:31
kitcheI use my 512mb usb to transfer stuff between my two computers02:31
nolimitsoyafotoflo, then burn a disc or use a usb flash drive02:31
fotoflonn: about 1000 lines02:31
nnfotoflo: Oie02:31
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nnfotoflo: duplicates or very different?02:31
fotofloi think theyre dups02:32
fotoflothe main thing i got from it was ETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out02:32
nnfotoflo: on an off attempt, try dmesg|grep eth|head -n 102:32
nnroot@joseph:/mnt/etc# dmesg|grep eth|head -n 102:32
nn[17179600.584000]  eth0: VIA Rhine II at 0x1e500, 00:e0:c5:54:1d:d5, IRQ 11.02:32
nnroot@joseph:/mnt/etc# dmesg|grep eth|head -n 102:32
nn[17179600.584000]  eth0: VIA Rhine II at 0x1e500, 00:e0:c5:54:1d:d5, IRQ 11.02:32
nolimitsoyafotoflo, watchdog is an iptables firewall for kubuntu. start by disbling it02:32
vitworld ... what to do if my screen is 5 mm to the right ... when starts ubuntu - eror on screen resolution ?!!!02:32
nnacck02:33
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baroslwhat program is useful for manaing boot services?02:33
nnnolimitsoya: no, that's a driver issue02:33
fotoflowhy all this on a fresh install just to get ethernet working02:33
nnnolimitsoya: seems to be a chipset bug02:33
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nnfotoflo: buggy ethernet chipset02:33
b0redhi. what iso file do i need to download for intel core2 duo which is 64bits and not AMD64iso?02:33
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fotoflono problems from windows02:33
nolimitsoyann, i cant match that to things working in the live environment02:33
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nnnolimitsoya: Different driver maybe being loaded02:34
vit:'(02:34
nnnolimitsoya: there's a good possibility it's a tulip or ne2k clone02:34
vit>:(02:34
nolimitsoyann, that might be the case, but id start with the simple and obvious before going exotic...02:34
fotoflonn hold on02:34
vit}:(02:34
nolimitsoyavit, ?02:34
b0redhi. what iso file do i need to download for intel core2 duo which is 64bits and not AMD64iso?02:34
vitplease help02:35
nnnolimitsoya: NETDEV WATCHDOG timeouts are usually buggy chipsets02:35
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cableroyi got problem with getting my nvidia card to do 1600x1200 when i installed ubuntu and ran the nv it did 1600x1200, any suggestions_02:35
cableroy?02:35
nolimitsoyavit, with what? i havent even seen you question, and typing angry smileys wont put people in a helping and friendly mood02:35
vitwhat to do if my screen is 5 mm to the right ... when starts ubuntu - eror on screen resolution ?!!!02:35
vitnn acck02:35
nnfotoflo: lspci|grep Ethernet should work as well02:35
vit:|02:35
LinTuxHow do I uninstall Samba in Terminal02:36
LinuturkMerry Christmas02:36
nolimitsoyavit, reconfigure you xorg for starters02:36
massHello here02:36
nnvit: See those little knobs on your screen?02:36
nnvit: probably on the bottom edge02:36
fotoflonn: ok so i just booted up again02:36
nnvit: In some cases, replaced by a set of push-buttons02:36
fotoflonn: my NIC addy is 00-00-00-00-0002:36
moosadid DeagsDoesLinux   play wurm yet?02:36
nnfotoflo: lspci|grep Ethernet02:36
kitcheb0red: the amd64 is the only instalelr for x86_64 machines02:36
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nnif it's a pci card, lsusb|grep Ethernet if usb, and if it's isa,  i have no idea nowadays :)02:37
fotofloRealtek02:37
fotofloehternet card02:37
b0redkitche, but why does it say for AMD64? i have intel core2 duo which is 64bits too!02:37
fotofloerr controller (no card)02:37
nnfotoflo: is there a model #? like rtl8139, etc02:37
siloxIm having probem to mount my external lan drive, cananyone help me?02:37
massAre there french here please ?02:37
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fotofloRTL831902:37
kitcheb0red: because amd came out with x86_64 first it's just a generic term02:37
nolimitsoyab0red, intels 64bit desktop is an amd clone02:38
fotofloeer 813902:38
nnfotoflo: Aha.02:38
fotofloexactly02:38
LinTux How do I uninstall Samba in Terminal02:38
nolimitsoyab0red, intels own it64 arch was a great failure :)02:38
nnfotoflo: There's a few busted drivers for that card02:38
kitcheLinTux: sudo apt-get --purge remove samba02:38
nnfotoflo: but there are driver workarounds02:38
b0rednolimitsoya, but core2 is 64bits right?02:38
[^Twen^] Where do I find vino, and how do I set it up?02:39
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nolimitsoyab0red, yes, the amd kind02:39
b0redhmm.02:39
fotofloughh02:39
fotofloso what do i have to do02:39
massI have a problem with mu ubuntu boot, can anyone help me please ?02:40
nnfotoflo: Hang on a sec02:40
nolimitsoya!helpme | mass02:40
ubotumass: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)02:40
nnfotoflo: lemme look at the driver options in modern kernels02:40
LinTuxThanks, lots of help, best thing I did was dump Microsoft02:40
massok, first, i'm french, excuse my english02:40
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siloxi cant mount a smb share, it youst comes a lot of ??? files in the mount folder... need help :)02:40
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masswhen i try toi boot on ubuntu i have this message : can't access to tty :s02:41
fotoflohah, i thought there were all these other problems - but this is it!02:41
nnnolimitsoya: i for some reason suspected it was an old realtek02:41
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nolimitsoyann, and right you where :)02:41
nnfotoflo: just a buggy chipset on your card02:41
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nnfotoflo: just trying to see what the driver nowadays is called02:41
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fotoflok02:41
nolimitsoyamass, did you install the right fonts?02:41
kenHow many primary partitions can i have?02:41
nnon a machine somewhere 700 miles from him :)02:41
kitcheken: 402:42
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nnOh yea, anyone seen that 'thing' at wal-mart? It's a kiddy computer running iirc Mitux linux or something like that02:42
kenWhat if i have more than 4 primary partitions? What will happen?02:42
Lattywareken: You can't02:42
kitcheken: well you can't have more then 4 primary partitions on a hard drive02:42
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b0rednolimitsoya, what file do i need to download for laptop intel core2 cpu?02:43
massnolimitsoya, the right font of ? i begin on linux, yesterday, my ubuntu boot properly, but today i have this message, and i don't install anything yesterday, i don't understand02:43
nnfotoflo: 8139cp, 8139too, tulip, and a few others, :)02:43
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nolimitsoyab0red, id suggest the 386 image, since it has less issues02:43
kenkitche: Lattyware: Can i have more than 4 partitions if i have two seperate HDDs? Is it that one HDD can only have 4 and the 4, or is it a total of 4, howmanysoever HDDs you have?02:43
kitcheken: 4 on each hard drive02:43
b0rednolimitsoya, this one? ubuntu-6.10-desktop-amd64.iso but it says desktop not laptop02:43
nnfotoflo: probably 8139too or tulip02:43
nolimitsoyamass, then id say you did an unclean shutdown and lost something.02:43
fotoflowhats that? the busted realtek chipsets?02:43
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vitnolimitsoya: where to find ?02:43
nolimitsoyab0red, nope, the -desktop-38602:43
nolimitsoyavit, /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:44
viti could not fint this02:44
kenkitche: So if i have two HDDs i can have 8 primary partitions safely, right?02:44
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kitcheken: yes02:44
kenkitche: Thank you, have a nice day.02:44
b0rednolimitsoya, but where does it say 64bit in ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso ?02:44
massnolimitsoya, ok, and how can i know what i have lost ?02:44
nolimitsoyaken, you can always use logical partitions if you want more02:44
kenHappy UBUNT-ing to everyone02:44
nolimitsoyab0red, it doesnt. thats what i just sayd02:45
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nolimitsoyamass, i have no clue :)02:45
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kennolimitsoya: But if i have two HDDs i can have 8 primary partitions safely, so than theres no need for any logical-partitioning02:45
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kitcheb0red: you want x86_64 then get the amd64.iso but there is a lot of problems with x86_64 in Linux right now software wise02:45
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b0rednolimitsoya, huh? but i have core2 64bits.. i wanna make use of 64bits ubuntu :S02:45
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b0red.hmm.02:45
nolimitsoyamass, you could get the alternate cd and do a repair install02:45
massnolimitsoya, arf lol, i have this another message : can't mount filesystem /sbin/init02:46
elysium444How to install wine in ubuntu 6.10 AMD64???02:46
Hobbseenalioth: rob kline n=rgrre@85.103.76.233 please02:46
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kitcheb0red: do you watch Youtube alot?02:46
nolimitsoyamass, do the repair02:46
b0redno02:46
vitpermission denied02:46
kenGood bye02:46
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massnolimitsoya, ok i will try, i do the repair on booting on a live cd ?02:46
nolimitsoyab0red, then get the amd64, but be aware that there are issues and not many packages02:46
fotoflonn?02:46
vitnolimitsoya: permission denied02:46
nolimitsoyamass, no i said get the alternate02:46
elysium444How to install wine in ubuntu 6.10 AMD64???02:47
nnfotoflo: yea?02:47
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nolimitsoyavit, do 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'02:47
nolimitsoyaelysium444, sudo apt-get install wine02:47
vit what is that ?02:47
nolimitsoyavit, a line to cut and paste into a terminal02:47
b0rednolimitsoya, but there are alot of packages for 32bits no? i'd still be able to run 32bits apps on 64bits..02:47
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elysium444nolimitsoya: I cant do that on ubuntu amd6402:47
jengc0ilhi nolimitsoya02:47
nolimitsoyab0red, not without some headache02:47
vitthanks !02:48
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kitcheb0red: you will have to have a multilib system which can be a pain02:48
nolimitsoyaelysium444, realy? thats sad...02:48
elysium444yes02:48
fotoflonn: you said you were going to look up a workaround?02:48
needhel1While trying to install a Windows PC-game (using wine), installing from CD1 works fine, but when it asks for CD2 and I switch to CD2, the installer doesnt seems to detect that I changed discs. How can I install this game without leaving ubuntu ?02:48
JAnYouHas anyone ever installed ns-2 under Ubuntu-2.6.20 sucessfully? I am trying to install ns-2, but I fail.02:48
massnolimitsoya, hum sorry, i don't understand, the alternate ? :o02:48
nolimitsoyaelysium444, then buidl from source02:48
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b0redkitche, ok so i install 32bit ubuntu and not 64? tis better?02:48
nolimitsoya!alternate | mass02:48
ubotumass: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.02:48
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elysium444nolimitsoya: I tried to build from source but I got errors02:48
rysiek|plguys, anybody uses a GSM Bluetooth phone manager worth recommending?02:48
nolimitsoyaelysium444, what errors?02:49
nnfotoflo: yea, 8139too or tulip driver is proper driver02:49
kitcheb0red: yes right now it is since x86_64 doesn't really have a lot of software anyways02:49
nnnolimitsoya: is there a /proc entry showing what driver is loaded for say 'eth0'?02:49
b0redkitche, so same talk applies for AMD..02:49
massnolimitsoya, ubotu, ok i ty to do an upgrade since a live cd ?02:49
nolimitsoyann, should be. i havent a clue as the where though :)02:49
elysium444this is the end of the log02:49
elysium444region.o     version.res   -o gdi32.dll.so  -ladvapi32 -lkernel32 -lntdll  /usr/lib/libsicuuc.a /usr/lib/libsicudata.a -lstdc++ -lgcc_s  ../../libs/port/libwine_port.a02:49
elysium444/usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib/libsicuuc.a(ubidi.ao): relocation R_X86_64_32S against `a local symbol' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC02:49
elysium444/usr/lib/libsicuuc.a: could not read symbols: Bad value02:49
elysium444collect2: ld returned 1 exit status02:49
elysium444winegcc: x86_64-linux-gnu-gcc failed.02:49
elysium444make[3] : *** [gdi32.dll.so]  Error 202:49
elysium444make[3] : Leaving directory `/home/elysium444/wine-0.9.28~winehq0~ubuntu~6.10/dlls/gdi32'02:50
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elysium444make[2] : *** [gdi32]  Error 202:50
elysium444make[2] : Leaving directory `/home/elysium444/wine-0.9.28~winehq0~ubuntu~6.10/dlls'02:50
nnnolimitsoya: heh i've not touched linux until recently for over 2 years02:50
elysium444make[1] : *** [dlls]  Error 202:50
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nolimitsoyamass, ubotu is a bot. get the alternate, and choose the rescue option during boot02:50
kitcheb0red: people tend to like i386 anyways right now in Linux02:50
fotoflonn: and how do i install that?02:50
nolimitsoyann, i just began last year :)02:50
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ubotuelysium444: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)02:50
elysium444any I diea02:50
nnfotoflo: should already be on there, just trying to see how to see what driver is currently loaded for your card02:50
Hobbseeelysium444: please dont paste in here.02:51
elysium444sorry02:51
elysium444i didnt know02:51
massnolimitsoya, lol ok thanks, i will try ! if i found :p02:51
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elysium444I dont use chat a lot02:51
nnfotoflo: it's been at least 2 years since i really used linux, was running FreeBSD for several years02:51
Hobbseeelysium444: OK.  type /topic, and hit enter, then you can read the topic for the room02:51
nolimitsoyamass, its on the website, same place as the desktop image02:51
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fotoflonn: its been about 9 for me :-(02:52
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kenI want to mount a 5GB FAT32 partition (which is for sharing data b/w win-linux), what should be a prospective mount point?02:52
massnolimitsoya, ok i go on the website02:52
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fotofloI had redhat running on my 486dx2-6602:52
nolimitsoyaken, any empty dir you want02:52
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kitcheken: /media/share perhaps02:52
fotoflowhen i was a 15 year old kid living in my moms basement02:53
nolimitsoyaken, i suggest making a symlink in your home for easy access02:53
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kennolimitsoya: kitche /media/share, thats good!02:53
needhel1While trying to install a Windows PC-game (using wine), installing from CD1 works fine, but when it asks for CD2 and I switch to CD2, the installer doesnt seems to detect that I changed discs. How can I install this game without leaving ubuntu ?02:53
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kitcheken: I try to name mounts for what they are for it's easier to remember02:53
b0redkitche, im disappointed about ubuntu and 64bits02:54
b0redkitche, seems a lack of 64bits support02:54
kitcheb0red: it's like that even for windows02:54
nolimitsoyab0red, get on the packaging team and start compiling packages then :)02:54
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kennolimitsoya: If i get to using ubuntu comfortably, and learn navigating the complexities of linux, than i will come and ask you of how to set up a symlink/samba/whatever. Right now i am plain old pissed off, due to the number of new things i have to learn to simply make a OS function :(02:54
kitcheb0red: Windows doesn't even have true x86_64 bit support02:54
nolimitsoyaken, symlinks can be made with -ls -s02:55
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nnfotoflo: hang on, still looking at driver choices for that card :)02:55
b0redkitche, windows vista will have it no02:55
nnfotoflo: there's several drivers covering that chipset and it's various busted clones02:55
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kennolimitsoya: OK you mean 'shortcuts'?02:55
nolimitsoyaken, making one in each users home will make accessing the share cery easy :)02:55
nolimitsoyaken, sort of, yes02:55
kitcheb0red: the kernel will be x86_64 but the software probably won't be02:55
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theblueken: When you started using Windows, you probably felt the same way you do now.02:55
kitcheken: it's ln -s not ls -s02:56
nolimitsoyaoops... silly me :/02:56
kennolimitsoya: Thank you and have a nice day (how many-'TH' time am i saying that to you today?)02:56
b0redkitche, but you can always run 32bits app on 64bit cpu.. it's just an advantage you have this additional 64bits support option... so i dont see any problems..02:56
massnolimitsoya, the recovery mode give me same message :s02:56
kenkitche: Help muchy appreciated02:56
fotoflonn:chillin, checking out synaptic02:56
kentheblue: theres no need for me to pass through that experience again02:56
nolimitsoyamass, the recovery option from the cd boot, not the harddisk boot02:56
kenbut other than that HAPPY UBUNT-ing02:56
nolimitsoyaken, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symlink02:56
vitnolimitsoya, I configured my gforce 2 mx 400 .... but it asks for keyboarfd ... how to cancel ?02:57
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kitcheb0red: yes but with Linux you have to install x86 libs to make the x86 programs to run which will make your system double in size02:57
theblue"happy ubunt-ing"?02:57
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nolimitsoyavit, just go through that bit too02:57
vitokdoki02:57
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obstfliegeI have problems with my consoles (STRG+ALT+F*). I just see colorful stripes. i guess it is because of my ATI Mobility radeon X700. do you know how i can fix it?02:58
nnfotoflo: it's 8139too, rtl8139, or ne2k-pci seem to be the choices on 2.6.x for that card02:58
massnolimitsoya, ah ok sorry, i try again02:58
afiefI have given Network Manager a WEP key to connect to my network, apparently the key was wrong and i am not asked for a new one. how can i fix that?02:58
elysium444nolimitsoya:somebody did do a package for the amd64 wine here is the link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297280&highlight=wine+amd6402:58
POVaddctobstfliege: are you using the closed source ati driver (fglrx)?02:58
fotoflonn: ok, and where do i find/how do i install these things?02:58
fotofloif i have no network02:59
needhel1While trying to install a Windows PC-game (using wine), installing from CD1 works fine, but when it asks for CD2 and I switch to CD2, the installer doesnt seems to detect that I changed discs. How can I install this game without leaving ubuntu ?02:59
obstfliegePOVaddct: yes fglrx02:59
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POVaddctobstfliege: and what type of text console do you use? 80x25 vga or any type of framebuffer?02:59
nnfotoflo: they come with the kernel modules already installed03:00
fotoflohow do i switch them on?03:00
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nnfotoflo: i've forgotten, however, how to check what module an ethernet device is using ;\03:00
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obstfliegePOVaddct: where can i see that? i dont know03:00
vitnolimitsoya, how to go back ?03:00
POVaddctobstfliege: cat /proc/fb03:00
nolimitsoyavit, from where?03:00
vitfrom configuring03:01
afiefhow do you remove a WEP key that Network Manager saves?03:01
nolimitsoyavit, it exits when you are through03:01
vit... ok ...03:01
obstfliegePOVaddct: the file is empty03:01
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POVaddctobstfliege: then you have 80x25 vga03:01
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obstfliegePOVaddct: ok03:02
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POVaddctobstfliege: are you familiar with putting kernel boot parameter in the grub config file?03:02
obstfliegePOVaddct: no i am very new to linux. i am working for a month on it as desktop system03:02
vitnolimitsoya , :( no change03:02
nolimitsoyavit, did you reboot?03:03
POVaddctobstfliege: do you mind taking this to a separate channel? dann koennen wir deutsch reden03:03
vitmin03:03
obstfliegePOVaddct: nice03:03
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afiefHow do you remove a WEP key that Network Manager saves?03:03
POVaddctobstfliege: /join #povhelps03:03
fotoflonn: maybe i should just go to the market and buy a new NIC?03:03
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raphaHi all!03:04
theblueWhere would I go to make a suggestion for Ubuntu03:04
theblue?03:04
nnfotoflo: that's one solution to it :P03:04
raphaWhat's a good Weblog for inexperienced users?03:04
thebluerapha: to create one or to read one?03:04
rapha(i.e., Wordpress, Movable Type, ...?)03:04
nnfotoflo: but im sure there's a way to see which module owns a device, i just cant remember it03:04
fotoflonn: when i do that, will ubuntu recoginize the new card automaticly?03:04
nnfotoflo: yea, via hotplug03:04
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raphaTo create posts theblue. It's for my cousin, I won't have problems setting it up but it has to be easy to do posts, especially picture posts.03:04
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thebluerapha: I've tried wordpress, but if you're really a new user, Blogger?03:05
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raphatheblue: Nah, we want it on my server.03:05
DarKrayBonjour03:05
raphatheblue: The killer feature would be "easy image uploads"03:05
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nnhmm i need to be able to photoblog from my phone too03:05
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raphatheblue: or how does it work with Wordpress if that's what you're using?03:06
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fotoflo<nn> fotoflo: but im sure there's a way to see which module owns a device, i just cant remember it03:06
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fotofloanyone here know?03:06
LinTuxHow do I instal Ndiswrapper in terminal03:06
vitno changes03:06
vit:|03:07
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thebluerapha: I really haven't used Wordpress much at all, honestly.03:08
nnfotoflo: im still poking around, in fbsd you could tell by the device name (no eth0 there)03:08
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[^Twen^] does anyone know which port vino is using?03:09
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needhel1Need help installing a Windows game! While trying to install a Windows PC-game (using wine), installing from CD1 works fine, but when it asks for CD2 and I switch to CD2, the installer doesnt seems to detect that I changed discs. How can I install this game without leaving ubuntu ?03:10
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afiefHow do you define how long a wireless driver will wait before it times out?03:11
massnolimitsoya, sorry, i don't find the rescue option, i try with a dapper install cd and an edgy live cd :sok03:11
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nolimitsoyamass, no live cd. get the alternate edgy cd03:12
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nolimitsoyamass, http://ftp.u-picardie.fr/mirror/ubuntu/releases/edgy/ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso03:14
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kpelhello03:15
massnolimitsoya, thanks, i download it !03:15
wkerzendemun: there?03:16
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nolimitsoyamass, you are from france, right?03:16
massnolimitsoya, yes03:16
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angelus!list03:16
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots03:16
nolimitsoyagood.i just wanted to make sure i gave you the right link03:16
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haxalityhey03:16
massyes i have a good download rate :)03:16
nolimitsoya*844 'hi' floods the channel*03:17
haxalityI understand that it's christmas and all, but does anyone know how to get a USB hard drive to mount automagically when it's plugged in?03:17
nolimitsoyahaxality, it should do that automaticaly03:17
haxality(using fluxbox)03:17
nolimitsoyahaxality, check /media03:17
haxalityI can only get it to automount when I run nautilus from the command line03:17
massnolimitsoya, this cd is a special cd with repair mode ? i installed my edgy with the live cd directly03:17
haxalityoh!03:17
haxalitythere it is!03:17
haxalityhaha03:17
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haxalityit was waiting for you to say something, nolimitsoya03:18
nolimitsoyamass, yes its a special cd03:18
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raphatheblue: nm then, I'll just install it and see how it goes :)03:18
nolimitsoyahaxality, how is that?03:18
massok03:18
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haxalityjoking :)03:18
nolimitsoyahaxality, do i know you?03:18
totall_6_7Merry Christmas!!03:18
haxalityno, was just trying to be grateful/kind03:18
haxalitywon't let it happen again :P03:18
nolimitsoya:P03:18
nolimitsoyasorry, i got you wrong :)03:19
haxalityheh03:19
haxalityits ok03:19
fotoflohow do i change my subnet mask?03:19
nolimitsoyathought you ment you recogniced me, and i didnt so i asked03:19
nolimitsoya:)03:19
haxalityahhh ok03:19
haxalityhaha03:19
haxalitywell, cheers03:19
muzikhey peeps, ok i installed windows, then ubuntu, only problem is, bios doesnt detect grub, when i put the win cd back in and select boot from hdd, the bootloader comes up. so in short, how can i set the MBR to the boot partition in my installation03:19
nolimitsoya!grub | muzik03:19
ubotumuzik: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto03:19
thebluerapha: Best of luck to you.03:20
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massnolimitsoya, i see on forum that this problem can be a conflict between ext3 and minix(?) type file, if try their solution, but don't works for me :s03:20
cableroyHow can i set modes for screen with nvidia? i don't get the resolution i want03:20
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nolimitsoyacableroy, xorg.conf03:21
nolimitsoyasame way as any other graphics driver03:21
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cableroynolimitsoya: yes, but that does not work03:21
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nolimitsoyacableroy, then your drivers probably arent loading correctly03:21
JAnYou[help] When I install package tcl8.4 through synaptic manager, it usally doesn't install the source files? How can I configure synaptic so it can also install the source files as well as the binary files?03:21
vitnolimitsoya, no changes03:22
kitcheJAnYou: just install the -dev packages also03:22
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nolimitsoyaJAnYou, you can also use the 'apt-get source' command to get the source package03:23
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needhel1Need help installing a Windows game! While trying to install a Windows PC-game (using wine), installing from CD1 works fine, but when it asks for CD2 and I switch to CD2, the installer doesnt seems to detect that I changed discs. How can I install this game without leaving ubuntu ?03:23
haxalityok. I know I just claimed that it was working, but it disappeared after I suspend/resumed my computer03:23
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vitwhat to do to make myself a good linuxoid 8|03:23
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haxalityvit: read everything you can possibly find about it03:24
nolimitsoyavit, tatoo tux on your forehead03:24
vit:D03:24
vit))03:24
odnigmanhi03:24
matteohuhuu03:24
nolimitsoya!hi | odnigman03:24
ubotuodnigman: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!03:24
danahi all03:24
odnigmantnks03:24
dananeed help, i need more repos03:24
odnigmanmy firt time03:24
matteomount /dev/sda1    why wrong03:24
nolimitsoya!easysource | dana03:24
ubotudana: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic03:24
nolimitsoyamatteo, you need a mountpoint and a filesystem type03:25
nolimitsoyamatteo, read up in 'man mount'03:25
cableroynolimitsoya: i can't see any error in my log, but Not useing mode "1600x1200" (no mode of this name) and Validated modes for display device DFP-003:25
matteobut i's an Usb key03:25
POVaddctmatteo: or just the mountpoint, but then it has to be an fstab entry03:25
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nolimitsoyamatteo, and why would that matter?03:26
vitwhy there isn't any wizzards in ubuntu ?03:26
matteoI havent got automounter03:26
nolimitsoyavit, there are loads03:26
JAnYouThx kitche, nolimitsoya for your reply.03:26
matteowhit03:26
vitloads ?03:26
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nolimitsoyavit, very many :)03:26
vitwhere ?03:26
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odnigmani need help for program install03:27
matteofuxbox dextop03:27
nolimitsoyavit, all over. what are you looking for?03:27
fotoflohey nn, if you find anything /msg me, ok?03:27
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vithow to install sth03:27
matteohow can I mount an USB key03:27
matteo????03:27
nolimitsoyamatteo, to mount, just insert and navigate /media. to mount manualy, you need mountpoint and filesystem type03:27
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vitwhere to get progs for staff from xp03:27
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haxalitynolimitsoya: do you have any idea why the drive wouldn't be mounting automatically?03:27
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nolimitsoyahaxality, nope03:27
haxalityok03:28
viti know well xp but linux is strange to me03:28
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haxalityjust wanted to see if it was a common problem or something, heh03:28
nolimitsoyahaxality, perhaps it shut down when you suspended03:28
obstfliegePOVaddct: DANKE! es geht!03:28
POVaddctmatteo: sudo mount -o umask=000 /dev/sda1 /mnt03:28
POVaddctobstfliege: cool03:28
haxalityit's on now, though03:28
crowley1027I have a lexar drive, and apparently it is a read-only drive.03:28
crowley1027how do i change that03:28
nolimitsoyahaxality, try restarting it. or make an fstab entry...03:28
haxalityok03:28
haxalitythanks for the help03:28
matteobut in /media there isnt any USB key03:29
nolimitsoyacrowley1027, chmod/chroot, mount rw, and all the rest...03:29
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crowley1027i don't know "all the rest"03:29
nolimitsoya*chown03:29
nolimitsoyanot chroot...03:29
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vitwell ... i'm going in windows  :T03:29
cableroyargh damn nvidia driver03:29
nolimitsoyacrowley1027, 'till you figure out whats wrong, there cant be any straight awnsers :)03:29
crowley1027can you walk me thru this?  M$ Guru, linux noob.03:29
odnigmanyou know a bluesnarfer?03:29
cableroywhere can i find howto for setting up the xorg.conf with nvidia? the mode lines and everything03:29
crowley1027fresh switch03:30
crowley1027nolimitsoya: what should i do first?03:30
dananolimitsoya i still cannot install mplayer03:30
nolimitsoyacrowley1027, what sort of device is it?03:30
crowley1027lexar USB flash drive03:30
vitthanks ... by all03:30
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ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots03:30
nolimitsoyadana, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install mplayer03:30
nolimitsoyacrowley1027, chmod the mountpoint03:30
odnigmani cannot install bluesnarfer.. you know?03:31
crowley1027how do i do that03:31
rebeccalol @ vit03:31
dananolimitsoya mplayer is not available in my repo03:31
crowley1027nolimitsoya: how do i do that?03:31
matteoplease whit KDE automuonter run but in fluxbox not03:31
matteowhy?????03:31
nolimitsoyacrowley1027, chmod 777 /<path>03:31
crowley1027whats the path to it?  :'(03:31
nolimitsoyadana, its in universe03:31
POVaddctnolimitsoya: i think mplayer is in multiverse03:31
matteoI'm new03:31
nolimitsoyacrowley1027, /media/<something>, most likely03:31
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nolimitsoyaPOVaddct, whats proprietary about it?03:32
nolimitsoya!mplayer03:32
ubotumplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile03:32
ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.03:32
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POVaddctnolimitsoya: there are some license issues03:32
nolimitsoyahm... youre right POVaddct... why is it in there?03:32
nolimitsoyaok03:32
crowley1027nolimitsoya: chmod: changing permissions of '/media/LEXAR': Read-only file system03:32
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POVaddctnolimitsoya: not with mplayer itself but with some codecs that are built-it03:32
nolimitsoyaPOVaddct, aha03:32
matteowhy in KDE automounter run but in flubox not someone can help me????03:32
matteo*fluxbox03:33
nolimitsoyacrowley1027, umount first. reformat it if its some strange arcane filesystem03:33
crowley1027how do i unmount?03:33
dananolimitsoya could you not copy paste my your source.list ?03:33
POVaddctnolimitsoya: the mplayer authors dont care about that but debian/ubuntu developers are very picky about licenses03:33
nolimitsoyadana, yes just wait a moment :)03:33
danaok03:33
nncrowley1027: umount /dev/whatever or umount /mountpoint03:33
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nolimitsoyacrowley1027, 'sudo umount /<path>'03:34
raghu206when i click on link having mms protocol totem opens to play but says cannot play :((03:34
pucko-matteo: I'm not sure kde use automount, I think it handles it on it's own.03:34
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crowley1027sudo unmount /media/LEXAR03:34
crowley1027oops03:34
crowley1027haha03:34
POVaddctmatteo: i already told you: sudo mount -o umask=000 /dev/sda1 /mnt03:34
crowley1027sudo: unmount: command not found03:34
crowley1027ok03:34
POVaddctit is umount, not unmount03:34
crowley1027now03:34
crowley1027now what03:34
fotofloi am running a realtek 8139 NIC and apprently there are driver issues with this card in ubuntu - how do i see which driver i have loaded and then change to a diffrent driver?03:35
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danahow can i config my system ?03:35
POVaddctfotoflo: lsmod | grep 813903:35
dananautilus and all other packager running on my system ?03:35
nolimitsoyacrowley1027, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountlinux03:35
nolimitsoyadana, http://pastebin.com/84466203:35
haxalityok, one FINAL FINAL question. how can I check which /dev/ device my hard drive is under?03:36
nolimitsoyahaxality, fdisk -l03:36
haxalitythank you03:36
nolimitsoyahaxality, gparted can also help you out, if you prefer gui03:36
crowley1027nolimitsoya: i'm confused03:36
nolimitsoyacrowley1027, how so?03:37
fotofloPOV gives me 3 things03:37
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nolimitsoyacrowley1027, unmount the drive, and chmod it with 77703:37
POVaddctfotoflo: can you pastebin them?03:37
nolimitsoyathe mount dir, that is...03:37
fotoflono03:37
fotofloi can type them in03:37
nolimitsoya!paste | fotoflo03:37
crowley1027nolimitsoya: can you please help me thru this?  I'm very confused.  I unmounted it, then what03:37
ubotufotoflo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)03:37
pucko-fotoflo: lsmod|grep 8139 (think there only are two drivers for that one, 8139cp and 8139too)03:37
POVaddctfotoflo: do you see 8139too and 8139cp?03:37
nolimitsoyacrowley1027, 'sudo chmod 777 /<path>'03:37
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fotoflothey are there03:38
crowley1027ok03:38
crowley1027nolimitsoya: done03:38
wkerzendmy ubuntu dapper is having troubles: it doesnt boot, with grub error 15, there are several instructions on the internet but all of them require me to get access to the boot partition: I have a edgy disc does this have a rescue kernel03:38
nolimitsoyacrowley1027, mount and try it out again03:38
fotofloand theres a number 24832 and 29056 followed by 0 on both lines03:38
fotofloand then there is mii03:38
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crowley1027nolimitsoya: how do i mount?03:38
nolimitsoyacrowley1027, normaly, they should be accessible without this hassle...03:38
POVaddctpucko-: i have seen ubuntu loading both drivers in an older notebook. it seemed that the 8139too driver won.03:38
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nolimitsoyacrowley1027, 'sudo mount -t <filesystem> /dev/<device> /<path>03:39
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fotoflomii says   mii 6912 2 8139cp 8139too03:39
crowley1027filesystem?03:39
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dananolimitsoya what the name of the package that allows me to edit my click right menu so i can have the (delete) option in it ?03:39
POVaddctfotoflo: so ubuntu loaded both drivers there. not so good.03:39
nolimitsoyacrowley1027, yes, youll need to know the filesystem type of the device. most likely vfat03:39
relachsi need help with the first lvl in zelda03:39
POVaddctfotoflo: what kind of network problem do you have with the card?03:39
fotoflopov: so i need to unload one03:39
nolimitsoyadana, i have no idea. i dont use gnome. shouldnt that be in the nautilus configurations?03:40
haxalityok, I lied. gparted is telling me it can't read my hard drive and says something about a plugin03:40
haxalityit's formatted as FAT32, could that cause a problem?03:40
fotoflopov: it thinks the MAC is 0, and when i manually change the mac, i still cant get a dhcp03:40
nolimitsoyahaxality, it shouldnt03:40
haxalityok. hmm.03:40
dananolimitsoya sounds like :)03:41
fotofloshould i unload one of those driverS? maybe two drivers causes a conflict?03:41
POVaddctfotoflo: what type of computer is that? in my barebone, i had to give kernel boot parameter "noapic" to get the 8139 working.03:41
crowley1027sudo mount -t vfat /media/LEXAR03:41
cmwebI started my computer with the live cd, went into safe graphics mode and for some reason it hangs at power managment and then displays a message saying  "Uncompressing Linux.....Ok, Booting the kernel" Thats where it is right now any one got any ideas as to why it did that so i can try and fix03:41
crowley1027nolimitsoya: sudo mount -t vfat /media/LEXAR03:41
fotofloits a barebone03:41
massnolimitsoya, it s me with my boot problem, i have this message : 'target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/int' when i try to boot, and when i see i this dir with a live cd, i don't find the file 'init', what is this file ? (the download is at 92% :) )03:41
nolimitsoyacrowley1027, you forgot the device path03:41
massnolimitsoya, (/sbin/init )03:41
fotoflowhats that mean? noapic?03:41
crowley1027nolimitsoya: how should i write it03:41
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nolimitsoya!init | mass03:42
ubotumass: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto03:42
raghu206cmweb, try booting with acpi=off03:42
pucko-I just resized my swap-partition and now ubuntu suddenly wont mount swap. 'swapon -a' says "cannot stat /dev/disk/by-uuid/<lots of numbers>". how do I change it to the correct uuid number?03:42
cmwebraghu206: where is that setting03:42
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nolimitsoyacrowley1027, something like 'sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/usbdrive' (make sure the dir exists03:42
raghu206in the list u have f6 as other options03:42
raghu206go to that and type at the end acpi=off03:43
bitmvnchanyone here using an intel macintosh? i had Edgy going the other day, but then installed Boot Camp in hopes that it would configure the BIOS extensions needed for video acceleration on EFI machines in GNU/Linux, and now the partitioner portion of edgy install fails to run, even though the partition tool will run out of system menu or somesuch during install. :/03:43
massnolimitsoya, thanks, i look this03:43
crowley1027nolimitsoya: done03:43
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bitmvnchif anyone had a hint that might help, i'd be indebted.03:43
nolimitsoyacrowley1027, and is it now writable?03:43
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crowley1027i think.03:43
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crowley1027what is the command to delete files?03:43
crowley1027in terminal03:43
raghu206cmweb, in the list u have f6 as other options03:43
POVaddctfotoflo: noapic turns off the advanced programmable interrupt controller (apic)03:43
nolimitsoyacrowley1027, rm or rmdir03:44
fotofloPOV: whats that mean? noapic?03:44
raghu206cmeme, go to that and type at the end acpi=off03:44
crowley1027i want to delete everything03:44
fotoflooh03:44
nolimitsoyacrowley1027, then rm -rf *03:44
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bitmvnchcrowley1027: man rm03:44
POVaddctfotoflo: in my case, this did help. it was not a driver issue.03:44
fotoflohow do i boot without it?03:44
fotofloits an IRQ misconfig?03:44
POVaddctfotoflo: you have to modify the grub config03:44
POVaddctfotoflo: adding noapic as kernel parameter03:45
crowley1027i don't have the permission to delete the files03:45
crowley1027rm03:45
fotoflono idea how to do that03:45
POVaddctfotoflo: and if noapic doesnt help, you might rename the module 8139cp.ko to 8139cp.ko.GONE03:45
nolimitsoyacrowley1027, then do the chmod with -R on the mounted drive, or just reformat it03:45
crowley1027??03:45
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nnfotoflo: now you believe me that 8139 chipset is broken? :)03:46
crowley1027can i delete it via the file browser???03:46
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fotoflonn: i beleive you that there arent suitable drivers for it03:46
fotoflobut it works fine in XP, so i woudlnt call it broken - just poorly supported03:46
nnfotoflo: its not that, the chipset is just crappy03:46
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nnfotoflo: No.. windows just works around the bugs, as the drivers for linux try to03:47
crowley1027nolimitsoya: how do i delete it via File Browser03:47
fotoflook so how do i do this noapic?03:47
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mkasterHelp please, I have a dwl-g120 usb wireless card. I am using xubuntu. I don't know how to connect to my wireless router using my wireless card, can you help me?03:47
fotofloi did grub config03:47
KirtapI run edgy server and trying to use make manuconfig but I get error msg saying I need ncurses. I have installed all i386 packages listed here but still doesn't work: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=ncurses&searchon=names&subword=1&version=edgy&release=all03:48
crowley1027nolimitsoya: how do i delete the files via File Browser03:48
POVaddctfotoflo: what do you mean by "you did grub config"?03:48
Kirtapoops "menuconfig"03:48
fotofloi ran grub config from the termanl03:48
nolimitsoyacrowley1027, you dont, unless you run the filemanager as su03:49
POVaddctfotoflo: i didnt say to run grub config03:49
needhel1Anyone familar with running Windows games under ubuntu ?03:49
POVaddctfotoflo: i was talking about editing the grub config file03:49
fotoflowhere are they?03:49
nolimitsoyafotoflo, /boot/grub03:49
fotoflo(thanks for your help btw)03:49
POVaddctfotoflo: /boot/grub/menu.lsg03:49
POVaddctfotoflo: /boot/grub/menu.lst03:49
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POVaddctfotoflo: you find the boot section at the end of the file. dont mess it up or your system wont boot anymore03:50
POVaddctnn: and you are right, realtek makes crappy chipsets03:51
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crowley1027nolimitsoya: READ ONLY FILE SYSTEM!?!?!?!03:51
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crowley1027Its making me angry03:51
nolimitsoyacrowley1027, what filesystem is it?03:51
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POVaddctcrowley1027: no need to shout03:51
fotofloafter "end default options" ?03:51
POVaddctfotoflo: yes03:52
crowley1027nolimitsoya: how do i find out03:52
nolimitsoyacrowley1027, fire up gparted03:52
fotofloadd the line "no apic" ?03:52
POVaddctfotoflo: no03:52
crowley1027how03:52
POVaddctfotoflo: add noapic (one word) to the existing kernel line03:52
crowley1027nolimitsoya: how03:52
nolimitsoyacrowley1027, 'sudo apt-get install gparted && sudo gparted'03:52
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POVaddctfotoflo: before root=...03:53
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rickyfingerscrowley: just type "mount" and look at the output03:53
fotofloits after root03:53
fotofloand tehres no equals03:53
fotoflojust a tab03:53
POVaddctfotoflo: ??03:53
Captain_HaddockDoes Linux have some kind of dictionary database that I can query?03:53
fotofloerr03:54
fotoflooh03:54
crowley1027nolimitsoya: i'm here03:54
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nolimitsoyacrowley1027, good, then select the drive and read what is sas03:54
nolimitsoya*says03:54
crowley1027nolimitsoya: how do i select it?03:54
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crowley1027nolimitsoya: i don't see it.  i see /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda203:54
nolimitsoyacrowley1027, the drop down in the top right corner03:54
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nolimitsoyacrowley1027, thats odd...03:55
fotofloit says kernel    /bootvmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/hdb1 ro quiet splash noapic03:55
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crowley1027dev/hda dev/sda03:55
Zahrber!topic03:55
ubotuPlease read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic03:55
fotoflodoes that look right?03:55
nolimitsoyacrowley1027, sda would be your drive03:55
POVaddctfotoflo: better put the noapic before root=...03:55
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nolimitsoyacrowley1027, most likely...03:55
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Gosha_how do i check if i have "Compress::Raw::Zlib" and "IO::Compress::Gzip" installed?03:55
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crowley1027nolimitsoya: fat1603:55
fotoflook03:56
fotoflosave and restart/03:56
fotoflo?03:56
nolimitsoyacrowley1027, thats very strange indeed. is the drive writeprotected in any way?03:56
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POVaddctfotoflo: yes03:56
crowley1027idk.03:56
Gosha_nick GoshaZ03:56
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cmwebraghu206: that killed it almost i dad to reboot about 9 times03:56
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crowley1027nolimitsoya: you have to guide me through all of this as if i was a robot.  I know nothinggg.03:57
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raghu206cmweb, did u try with what i have said03:57
crowley1027theres a lock next to it03:57
cmwebIs their any way of only installing the terminal from the live cd? (the cd 6.06 LTS (ubuntu))03:57
nolimitsoyacrowley1027, is there any sort of switch on the drive to writeprotect it?03:57
crowley1027no switch03:57
Captain_Haddockhmm aspell appears to be some kinda dictionary..03:57
crowley1027i see /dev/sda1  (lock icon)03:57
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cmwebraghu206: i did03:58
ariccsHello all03:58
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cmwebraghu206: and it hung untill i reboot it03:58
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nolimitsoyacrowley1027, thats because its mounted03:58
nolimitsoyacrowley1027, rightclick it and unmount03:58
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crowley1027nolimitsoya: device is busy???03:59
fotoflowell it still thinks the MAC is 003:59
POVaddctfotoflo: hmpf03:59
ariccsAhh the joys of being able to umount by right clicking...03:59
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POVaddctfotoflo: still both modules 8139too and 8139cp loaded?03:59
nolimitsoyathen try 'cd ~ && mkdir usb && sudo mount -o user,w -t vfat /dev/sda1 usb' after youve unmounted it. unplug and replug if it wont unmount03:59
raghu206cmweb, explain what exactly happening03:59
ariccsOh wait, I don't have a mouse!03:59
fotofloi think so04:00
POVaddctariccs: :)04:00
crowley1027nolimitsoya: it says the device is busy04:00
POVaddctfotoflo: does noapic appear in   cat /proc/cmdline ?04:00
nolimitsoyacrowley1027, then unplug and replug04:00
fotofloquestion, it says 8139cp                                24832    004:00
fotoflonioe04:00
fotoflonope04:01
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nolimitsoyacrowley1027, correction to the last command: user,w should be user,rw04:01
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fotoflomy question just now was what was the 004:01
jengc0ilhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38763/04:01
POVaddctfotoflo: then you edited the wrong part of menu.lst04:01
jengc0ilhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38763/04:01
cmwebOK right now the cd drive is being a pain in the you know what, I pressed f6 and put in acpi=off and pressed enter and it hung i restarted and then it wouldent detect the cd untill the 9th restart (ive been messing around with the bios to get it to work) it started now and safe mode is highlighted04:01
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fotofloi can see that04:01
jasmuzMerry Christmas to all04:01
GoshaZ"perl -e 'use IO::Compress::Gzip04:01
crowley1027its unmounted04:01
GoshaZ'"04:01
POVaddctfotoflo: 0 is the use count04:01
GoshaZwould work to check if it's there right?04:01
jengc0ilnolimitsoya: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38763/04:01
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POVaddctfotoflo: what do you have in the 8139too line? also 0?04:01
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fotofloyeah04:01
crowley1027nolimitsoya: its unmounted04:02
GoshaZ"perl -e 'use IO::Compress::Gzip'" *04:02
ariccsMerry Christmas jasmuz04:02
POVaddctfotoflo: sorry, i got to go04:02
fotoflouse count?04:02
nolimitsoyacrowley1027, good. then pass the command04:02
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fotoflook thanks for the help04:02
raghu206cmweb, sorry i have no idea04:02
jasmuz:)04:02
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cmwebraghu206: do you know a way of only stating the terminal04:02
cmwebraghu206: not gnome04:02
crowley1027nolimitsoya: what command04:02
nolimitsoyacrowley1027, if that doesnt help, use gparted to repartition and format it04:02
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nolimitsoyacrowley1027 'cd ~ && mkdir usb && sudo mount -o user,rw -t vfat /dev/sda1 usb'04:03
raghu206cmweb, no try alternate cd04:03
LibereI have no sound.04:03
Storkmehelp!! i'm trying to install grub on my MBR (windows messed it up) and i'm on a knoppix live cd.. i'm trying to mount my linux partition, chroot to the mounted partition and do 'grub-install /dev/sda', but there is no file /dev/sda in the chroot. how do i fix this?04:03
ariccsGDM is a pain in the rump04:03
cmwebraghu206: i have no alternat cd, the cd that works ( i have 3 ) is the one from shipit and its barley working04:03
nolimitsoya!grub | Storkme04:03
ubotuStorkme: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto04:03
crowley1027mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist04:04
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crowley1027nolimitsoya: Look up 2 lines04:04
Liberemy Chipset isn't listed on the ALSA Driver site. Am I out of luck?04:04
nolimitsoyacrowley1027, try sda instead of sda1 then04:04
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crowley1027nolimitsoya: cannot create directory usb: file exists04:04
nolimitsoyacrowley1027, yes, youll have to remove that part of course :)04:05
crowley1027how?04:05
nolimitsoyacrowley1027, try backspace :)04:05
cmwebOk im going to try this again with safemode highlighted04:05
nolimitsoyacrowley1027 'cd ~ && sudo mount -o user,rw -t vfat /dev/sda usb'04:05
crowley1027cd ~ && sudo mount -o user,rw -t vfat /dev/sda usb04:05
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LibereCan anyone help me figure out why i can't get sound out of Ubuntu 6.06>04:06
nolimitsoya!sound | Libere04:06
ubotuLibere: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin04:06
crowley1027nolimitsoya: dev/sda doesn't exist04:06
nolimitsoyacrowley1027, well, did you replug the drive?04:06
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crowley1027yup04:06
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nolimitsoyacrowley1027, this seems to be a pure mess... reboot and reformat the drive04:07
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RandomDude16hey how do i get my digital camera to work in kubuntu?04:07
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cmwebsounds like the dang thing is going to fall apart, i got it started and its slowly loading (stupid 250mhz proccessor)04:07
fotoflowhoops forgot to sudo04:07
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nolimitsoyaRandomDude16, have you tried the camera managema04:07
RandomDude16no04:07
nolimitsoyamanagement software in the panel04:08
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nolimitsoyaRandomDude16, then do04:08
RandomDude16how do I do it?04:08
crowley1027nolimitsoya: you can't just say "do this"   i need to know the commands :-P04:08
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nolimitsoyaRandomDude16, try clicking on it :o)04:08
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Storkmenolimitsoya, much appreciated, it worked :)04:08
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nolimitsoyacrowley1027, press shut down, start the computer again and use gparted to reformat your usb drive04:08
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RandomDude16none of my pictures are showing up04:09
LibereAlsa is selected, but my Chipset isn't listed on the ALSA Driver site. Am I out of luck?  I tried to follow this guide: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Comprehensive_Sound_Problems_Solutions_Guide04:09
nolimitsoyaRandomDude16, did you connect to your camera?04:09
RandomDude16could not read file  could not claim the usb device04:09
RandomDude16yes i did04:09
nolimitsoyaLibere, what soundcard is this?04:09
RandomDude16and it popped up04:09
RandomDude16as soon i plugged it in04:09
LibereOnboard: Card: HDA Intel Chip: SigmaTel STAC766104:09
nolimitsoyaRandomDude16, then can you transfer files from it?04:09
moosahi guys i have a little trouble setting pygame04:09
RandomDude16no04:10
RandomDude16i got an error04:10
crowley1027wait04:10
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nolimitsoyaRandomDude16, what error?04:10
RandomDude16could not read file  could not claim the usb device04:10
crowley1027i deleted /dev/sdb04:10
crowley1027nolimitsoya: line up04:10
nolimitsoyacrowley1027, thats not good...04:10
LibereI posted all the relevant info on the beginner board: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32522504:10
nolimitsoyaLibere, then give it some time and youll get n04:10
crowley1027create as extended partition?04:10
nolimitsoyaan awnser there04:10
crowley1027nolimitsoya: up04:10
moosawhen i want to install the package (which is in .deb format) i get this error about depanacy how to i fix it04:11
nolimitsoyacrowley1027, just reformat the existing partition04:11
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crowley1027no partition.04:11
crowley1027unallocated04:11
nolimitsoyacrowley1027, then create a primary partition04:11
raghu206cmweb, may be it got wear out during transportation04:11
crowley1027fat16 like it was before?04:11
whyameyeLibere: do you have backports enabled?04:11
raghu206cmweb, try downloading it04:11
nolimitsoyacrowley1027, what ever fs you want, but fat should be fine04:12
LibereI have no idea.  I'm a complete n00b.04:12
nolimitsoya!backports | Libere04:12
ubotuLibere: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports04:12
Liberekali@Shakti:~$ !backports04:12
Liberebash: !backports: event not found04:12
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kitcheLibere: backports is a apt repo04:13
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whyameyeLibere: I did a quick google search for you and found this: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/33719. I only skimmed it but my impression is if you enable backports in the repos it should work. If not, adding "options snd-hda-intel model=vaio" in modprobe.d should take care of it.04:14
SurgeXmosa: enable extra repositories04:15
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QwertyMAhh I got a BT dongle for my phone today (N 6681) how do I pair em up?04:20
LibereI tried this: type:04:20
Libereecho "options snd-hda-intel model=vaio" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/snd-hda-intel04:20
Libereto create the /etc/modprobe.d/snd-hda-intel to load the module with the appropriate parameter.04:20
Liberereboot, and the sound should work04:20
LibereDidn't work.04:20
theblueAnyone here used pdmenu?04:20
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theblueI'm trying to make it so that when you log in, it loads pdmenu, and when pdmenu exits, you're logged out, how would I do this?04:21
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theblueor any program, for that matter?04:21
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QwertyMtheblue, no idea on logoff part but for login just add command into Sys > Pref > Sessions > Startup tab04:23
HarryDog I have been kicked 0 Times if i get kicked 5 i will blacklist your chan04:23
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morvokanyone know of places I can find a mips power comp?04:23
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theblueQwertyM: This is in the commandline.04:24
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theblueQwertyM: But I've figured out login too.04:24
theblueIt doesn't want to exit, apparently.04:24
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infide1how come i keep getting a / has no filesystem when trying to install?04:25
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NevroPuscan anyone tell me where I can get a driver for my ATI Radeon Mobility X1600 graphics card for Ubuntu?04:25
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infide1NevroPus: www.ati.com04:26
savvasdoes anyone have the verification key for wine.budgetdedicated.com repo?04:26
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Lattyware Hey all. Trying to get videos on my Ipod04:26
Lattyware I compiled gtkpod04:26
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Lattywareand it just says 'Could not find iPod directory structure at '??C(Weird box symbol)'. Are you sure the ipod is mounted at '??C...' GTKpod can create the directory structure now. Do you want to do this?] 04:26
LattywareI'm presuming that's not something I want to do04:26
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NevroPusinfide1, the ATI_driver_installer-****-run?04:26
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NevroPushow do I use a .run file?04:26
Nontitle./ file.run04:27
NevroPusyes, I am a noob:P04:27
NevroPusthanks;)04:27
infide1NevroPus: yeah04:27
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LattywareAh, got it04:27
Lattywarehadn't set up the ipod by right clicking the bit04:27
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SurgeXdoes the intel graphics media accelerator 900 work in ubuntu?04:28
Nontitleguys, i'm just got a 160gb hard drive and i'm about to install ubuntu with an 80gb partition and a 1gb swap, but i was going to install xp to it as well... is there a way to make grub work with xp if i install xp second and use a rescue disk? or should i just install xp first?04:28
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jbshi all04:29
alassiryhi jbs04:29
exsSurgeX:  I think the intel graphics have good support. They open sourced a lot of their drivers04:29
jbshi ^^04:29
SurgeXNontitle: Install XP first04:29
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SurgeXThanks04:29
Nontitleok04:29
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Nontitledamn, i don't want to though cause xp sucks lol04:29
SurgeXThen GRUB will detect XP automatically04:29
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exsNontitle:  I don't have much experience, but I'd go with windows xp first.. I've always done it that way and it works good04:29
Nontitleok04:29
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jbshi04:30
NevroPusmartin@martin-laptop:~/Nedlastninger$ sudo ./ati-driver-installer-8.32.5-x86.x86_64.run04:30
NevroPussudo: ./ati-driver-installer-8.32.5-x86.x86_64.run: command not found04:30
SurgeXXP always want's to be first04:30
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NevroPuswhy do I get that?04:30
Nontitleuse chmod 744 ati-*04:30
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Nontitleits not executable04:30
jbsmay i ask..?04:31
Nontitleone reason i hate xp install is that's all you can do, with ubuntu you can do other stuff as well04:32
alassiryjbs: go ahead04:32
Nontitlewell im leaving to install xp now... cya04:32
jbscya04:32
Nontitle!xp04:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:32
jbsi suffer from ubuntu04:32
Nontitlemeh...04:32
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NevroPusnothing happens whem I use chmod 744. just runs the command and thats it04:32
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jbssuddenly restart gnome session....04:32
NevroPusis that right?04:32
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RandomDude16ok how do i get my camera to work in ubuntu?04:35
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superkirbyartistI can't play StepMania because direct rendering is disabled!04:36
superkirbyartistHelp please?04:36
superkirbyartistAnyone?04:36
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superkirbyartistHello?04:37
POVaddct!patience04:37
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines04:37
drivera90Sound Juicer shows pretty random crap as song names/album names upon putting in an album.04:37
drivera90Thoughts?04:37
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superkirbyartistSorry.04:38
jbswow04:38
POVaddctsuperkirbyartist: direct rendering is not supported for each graphics card. which card to you have?04:38
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POVaddcts/to/do04:38
superkirbyartistNvidia GeForce04:38
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POVaddctsuperkirbyartist: exact type please04:38
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superkirbyartistPOVaddct GeForce FX5500 AGP 256MB04:39
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Gun_Smok1POVaddct:  Is there a command to find that out?04:39
POVaddctGun_Smok1: the gfx card type? lspci should show all cards on the pci bus, including agp and pci express04:40
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infide1!ati04:40
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:40
infide1!ati > NevroPus04:41
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superkirbyartistThey are installed, I believe.  Mupen64 runs at about 50+ fps and I can use XGL.04:41
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POVaddctsuperkirbyartist: i suppose you are using the open source nv driver now. that one does not support hardware accelerated 3d for nvidia cards.04:41
derek_How to add MP3 support in the players?04:41
superkirbyartistIt doesn't say nv, it says nvidia, at the many file configs I checked.04:41
POVaddctsuperkirbyartist: nvidia (as well as ati) refuses to give info about the h/w accelerated 3d functions to the open source driver developers04:42
POVaddctsuperkirbyartist: so you might need the closed source driver from nvidia04:42
POVaddct!nvidia04:42
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:42
POVaddctsuperkirbyartist: read the link ubotu just posted04:42
mastermuellerhow can i install ubuntu with my hdd's on a ide-controller? if i just boot normally via the cd it freezes and destroys my whole mbr04:43
superkirbyartistPOVaddct: Maybe I'm using an old driver, but I installed it this year.04:43
Shadow_milMerry Christmas Everyone!  FYI. I got a MP3 player :D   Which I love!04:43
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superkirbyartistI can try anyways04:43
POVaddctsuperkirbyartist: hmm. i cannot help you with the binary only drivers, since i dont use them at all.04:43
drivera90Sound Juicer shows pretty random crap as song names/album names upon putting in an album.04:44
drivera90Thoughts?04:44
richeemerry christmas every one04:44
infide1is there a problem with edgy's prepare mount points installer?04:44
NippooMerry Christmas, Shadow_mil. =D I got an hp iPaq, which is also an MP3 player, and I *might* install Linux on it. heheh.04:44
derek_How to add MP3 support in the players?04:44
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angelus!list04:45
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots04:45
richee!mp304:45
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:45
POVaddctsuperkirbyartist: maybe you can check the log file of the Xorg server to find out why direct rendering is disabled. less /var/log/Xorg.0.log04:45
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derek_thx04:45
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gephaltQuestion: Why do java apps look so crappy and slow on linux? (eg. NetBeans).04:46
mastermuellerhow can i install ubuntu with my hdd's on a ide-controller? if i just boot normally via the cd setup freezes and destroys my whole mbr04:47
dantjemerry xmas, did somebody get a Samsung SCX4521F to scan under edgy?04:47
superkirbyartistWhat is NV-GLX?  Maybe I need NVIDIA-GLX?04:47
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QwertyMsuperkirbyartist, guess you're right04:47
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NevroPusthanks infide1 it worked:D04:49
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superkirbyartistWhy everything changes from Breezy to Dapper to Edgy?04:49
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yurikhello, anybody speek russion?04:52
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superkirbyartistPOVaddct: It says my drivers are properly installed but still direct rendering is disabled.04:53
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drivera90What format does Sound Juicer extract in?04:53
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jacquesdupontdsalut tout le monde04:54
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jacquesdupontdje suis dans une merde incroyable04:54
jacquesdupontdje formatais un disque amovible dans windOB04:54
jacquesdupontdet je reboot04:54
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superkirbyartistjacquesdupontd Dommage04:54
jacquesdupontdet jai un grub error 1704:54
Gun_Smok1@schedule US/Eastern04:54
jacquesdupontdje peux plus acceder  rien04:54
Icaruswhenever i try to use synaptic or apt-get i get the error message E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room04:55
IcarusE: Error occurred while processing kmix (NewFileVer1)04:55
IcarusE: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/status04:55
jacquesdupontdquelqun  un conseil ?04:55
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Icarusdoes anyone know how to fix this?04:55
Nippoojacquesdupontd: enleve le disque amovible?04:55
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superkirbyartistjaquesdupontd: Une fois j'ai fait une mise a jour de Breezy a Dapper et j'ai tout ruin.04:55
RiyonukOk, I was told that the version I downloaded is a live cd and install? Which one is just install04:55
jacquesdupontdcest biensur dja fait04:55
Gun_Smok1@schedule Miami04:55
Icarusanyone?04:56
procrastinato1how do I use rsync through samba? ie. 'rsync smb://remotefolder localfolder' , but with correct syntax04:56
RiyonukBecause I hate loading the live cd just to install04:56
superkirbyartistPOVaddct are you there?04:56
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superkirbyartistI installed my Nvidia drivers but it still disables direct rendering.04:56
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Nippoosuperkirbyartist: he's probably looking something up or writing a reply. Patience, patience!04:56
superkirbyartistOkay, problem #2: frostwire white screen04:57
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superkirbyartistAfter FrostWire loads core conponements, I see a white window.04:58
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Nippoojacquesdupontd: je ne sais pas, alors... je vais traduire au cas ou quelqu'un sache la reponse.04:58
Riyonukis alternate the version I want?04:59
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superkirbyartistLimeWire same thing, but it gives me a "Upgrade to PRO" popup.  Anyone can help, please?04:59
Nippoohm. abovementioned French poster gets a GRUB error 17 on trying to boot Linux up; problems stem, apparently, from having formatted a removable disk in Windows.04:59
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Nippoooh, wait, disregard that, he's left.05:00
Nippoo=)05:00
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superkirbyartistNippoo: Can you help with white screen?05:00
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eikehey, do you have an Source.list for beryl for me?05:01
LinuxServerHey Chanserv is very Fast 2 Mnst he need05:01
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juanchito2006Hello and Merry Christmas, I haven't been able to accelerate my ATi Radeon Xpress graphics05:01
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superkirbyartistNippoo?05:02
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juanchito2006Ati Radeon Xpress 20005:03
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NippooMerry Christmas juanchito2006. Perhaps press the accelerator?05:03
naelphin2how can i change how many lines scroll per mouse wheel?05:03
Nippoosuperkirbyartist: unfortunately not. make sure you've downloaded the latest drivers.05:04
superkirbyartistGFX Card or Wire?05:04
Nippooi'm not entirely sure what package it is for nVidia GeForce cards, because I never got mine to work.05:05
Nippoobut have a google around, then apt-get that package.05:05
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eegoreI just did  stock install of edgy 64, is there any advantage or diadvantage to using the processor specific kernel?05:05
juanchito2006Nippoo: Was that a joke? Whatever, I try to follow the instructions provided by the wiki but seems not working05:05
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Nippoojuanchito2006: yeah, it was =)05:06
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needhel1Anyone familar with running Windows games under ubuntu ? I get some weird errors when trying to execute it05:07
juanchito2006!ATi05:07
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:07
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derFlowhat is a Gstreamer Pipeline05:08
Icarusis flash player 9 out yet?05:08
Icarusin the repo?05:08
Nippoosorry, I'll probably exit if I'm unlucky (not sure whether IRC is UDP or TCP, but if it's the latter, I'll definitely quit) - restarting router.05:09
nnIRC is TCP05:09
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nnspecifically tcp/6667 for most networks05:09
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eegorewell , it looks like there is no processor specific kernel in 64 bit\05:10
colkif it requires an establiced connection it is defiantly tcp05:10
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unimatrix9hi all05:10
unimatrix9is there an simple and easy program to record my tvtime shows?05:10
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mc__!stfw > unimatrix905:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about stfw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:11
mc__!stfw is Please search the fine Web05:12
unimatrix9ubotu does not know,05:12
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about does not know, - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:12
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modulushey, i got a problem. my laptop fails to beep on places where typically the system speaker would beep like on the console05:13
kdjfsHi, how can I create a shortcut to desktop for counter strike(hl.exe)?05:13
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unimatrix9kdjs rightklick desktop and add05:13
modulusi suspect this is something to do with alsa not supporting the legacy speaker emmulation or something?05:13
unimatrix9new starter05:13
unimatrix9now in the command line you type...05:14
Icarusmodulus, open up volume control and set pc speaker to the top , that might help05:14
unimatrix9what was it hl.exe with wine or cedega?05:14
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kdjfswine05:14
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unimatrix9okey then wine hl.exe05:14
unimatrix9and choose an nice icon05:14
unimatrix9:)05:14
kdjfsok05:15
kdjfsbut there is no 'new starter'05:15
gephaltwhat can i use to author/edit PDF files?05:15
kdjfsor create launcher05:15
modulusIcarus: sorry for the dumbness but where can i find volume control?05:15
gephaltanyone? is there an adobe acrobat for linux (or is it just a pipe dream?)05:15
unimatrix9kdjfs when you rightclick desktop what does it say?05:16
eegoreyes there is05:16
unimatrix9hmm, or dont you use gnome?05:16
gephaltspit it out :)05:16
nneegore: i believe he means acrobat not reader05:16
modulusgepf: there is, but you can also use ghostview &c.05:16
Icarussettings modulus05:16
eegoregephalt: u can get it with the automatix install script05:16
Icarusmight be called mixer settings05:16
kdjfscreate launcher , create folder create document keep aligned bla bla bla05:16
kdjfsbut i think create launcher05:16
unimatrix9create launcher05:16
gephaltlet me google.05:17
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modulushmm, so on system, settings, ... i can't find it.05:17
Icarusis there a script so you can right click music files and add them to desired app playlist?05:17
eegoreThere is a linux version out there but its functionaly is somewhat restricted. There is a way to write PDFS in open office05:17
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unimatrix9kdjfs give it an name , then the next empty type wine hl.exe05:17
gephalteegore: I am aware of the export as pdf-option in oowriter.05:18
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gephaltI want to create some bookmarks in an existing pdf file-05:18
kdjfsyeah okay i'll try05:18
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unimatrix9ok05:18
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kdjfsbut hl.exe is not in system3205:18
ricanelite how can I check my harddrive to see if it is failing? Because I have a Mac Mini which I installed Ubuntu Linux on, But I wanted to reinstall OS X and have a partition. But now when I enter the Mac OS X install cd it comes up with a error message saying that install cannot proceed any further cause my harddrive is failing. But I have been running Ubuntu Linux for months now. I have not had any problems. So what solutions I have right05:18
ricanelitenow?05:18
kdjfsso, i have to edit the cmd lline rite?05:18
abhinayIam not getting good clarity ( box blur ) in totem player, though i installed all restricted formats. Whereas iam getting good clarity in all other players like mplayer, vlc ...05:18
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abhinayAnybody Help please05:19
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eegoregephalt: try robodoc05:19
ricanelitewhere can I run a Harddrive checker? Like to see if my harddrive is failing? Any suggestions please?05:20
unimatrix9kdjfs in command type wine hl.exe05:20
rysiek|planybody here uses unionfs?05:20
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kdjfswine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\hl.exe": Module not found05:20
kdjfscan i move hl.exe into system32 folder?05:21
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unimatrix9dont move the exe05:21
colkricanelite, id suggest the drive manufactors website05:22
unimatrix9edit the launcher , browse to the exe to point to it05:22
unimatrix9http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~psgendb/local/public_html/setup.jds/Nedit.launcher.gif05:22
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Hmg4Anyone know how to get rsync work through ssh?05:22
unimatrix9on command you see the option to browse to it05:22
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drivera90How do I edit the information on a track I ripped?05:23
unimatrix9use easytag05:24
drivera90sudo apt-get install easytag?05:24
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unimatrix9kdjfs have you got it working now?05:25
mikro2ndjust upgraded to edgy-eft (kubuntu) - what happened to kwifi-manager?05:25
unimatrix9yeah apt-get install easytag05:25
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kdjfsotw05:25
drivera90kk05:25
Francis_Alberthi05:25
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saxofonerHey everyone, merry christmas!05:26
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unimatrix9otw means? :P05:26
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Storkme!grub05:26
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto05:26
drivera90Merry Christmas, saxofoner.05:26
unimatrix9on tiolet break? hehe05:26
saxofonerI got a wacom for xmas, and I was wondering if there's a way, in xorg.conf, or something else, to make it use only one monitor?  I can't figure it out....05:26
unimatrix9hmm?05:27
saxofonerYou know how tablets are absolute?05:27
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saxofonerSo w/ dual screens, any thing you draw is doubled horizontally05:27
Francis_Alberthere, in from Brazil ?05:28
Francis_AlbertPlease?05:28
J-_tablet... someone's lucky heh05:28
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webmarenMerry Christmas to all.05:28
kdjfsnot working05:28
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saxofonerJ-_:  Yeah, I love it!  I've wanted one for a while.05:28
webmarenHappy Holidays to those who don't celebrate Christmas05:28
J-_Nice05:28
saxofonerwebmaren: Second that.05:28
saxofonerHaha05:28
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J-_Third that.. =)05:29
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=== webmaren toasts to holidays
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webmaren!Christmas05:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Christmas - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:30
webmaren:(05:30
Hmg4lol05:30
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J-_lol05:31
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saxofonerwebmaren: Haha, that's great.  ubotu is a pagan or something...05:32
webmarenlol05:32
MarcN!Christmahanaka05:32
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Christmahanaka - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:32
webmaren:(05:32
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Hyper_Mam!ipv605:32
ubotuTo disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv405:32
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ubotudapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".05:32
saxofoner!Christmahannukwanzakaajoydaypalooza05:32
webmaren!Christmahannakwanzadon05:32
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webmarenroflol05:32
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richee!christmas05:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about christmas - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:33
webmaren<ubotu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)05:33
Alwahello05:33
webmarensup?05:33
saxofonerhey05:33
burner!atheism05:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about atheism - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:34
webmarenyou see, we are the reason that Linux pwns Windoze05:34
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webmarenthe Ubuntu tech support is open on Christmas Day05:34
dark_lightwebmaren, :D05:34
saxofonerHell yeah!  But wait... ubuntu tech support hasn't helped me today.  I'm suing!05:34
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w3ccv the Ubuntu tech support is open Every Day!05:34
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webmarensaxofoner: rofl05:34
burnersaxofoner: got a questions?05:35
webmarenw3ccv: true05:35
dark_lightsaxofoner, and your problem is?...05:35
moduluscan anyone point me towards a gtk-based mixer prefferably already installed?05:35
unimatrix9is there an simple and easy program to record my tvtime shows?05:35
MarcNsaxofoner: double your money back! ;-)05:35
burnermodulus: both gnome and xfce have mixers05:35
webmarenmodulus: you mean like a music player05:35
saxofonerhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=325250  <-- see~ no help!05:35
modulusok, where are they?05:35
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burnermodulus: using xubuntu, ubuntu, kubuntu?05:35
modulusno, just to set volume levels.05:35
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saxofonerHm....05:36
modulusubuntu.05:36
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burnergnome-volume-manager05:36
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webmarenmodulus: sytem> preferences > sounds05:36
MarcNsaxofoner: I thought wacom tablets were supported by X05:36
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JayTee52Hi, everyone!05:36
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saxofonerMarcN: It is!05:36
chipsdipheh05:36
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saxofonerIt just acts funny in the dual screens, MarcN05:37
modulusbut that has all sorts of weird stuff about alsa and stuff. where do you fiddle with the volume?05:37
webmarenchipsdip: :(05:37
burnermodulus: I mean... gnome-volume-control05:37
JayTee52I just switched to Edgy and was wondering what happened to the Disks utility that used to be on the System | Administration menu?05:37
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dark_lightsaxofoner, i have only 1 monitor :( and no tablet. and i have no idea what a wacom is.. sorry05:37
chipsdipweb,aren05:37
dmAnyone here know where VIDEOS are saved with XVIDCAP app ?05:37
chipsdipgah05:37
chipsdipI cant get past the login05:37
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chipsdiphaha05:37
modulusso, i just launch from terminal?05:37
nauj27hi05:37
saxofonerhaha, dark_light, a wacom is a tablet, leading brand...05:37
saxofonerwacom is to tablet as kleenex is to facial tissue05:37
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burnermodulus: sure... or double-click the volume applet that is in your panel... or add the applet to your panel05:37
webmarenmodulus: there should be a little speaker icon in the upper right of your screen05:37
burnermodulus: alt+f2 is another good way to run stuff05:38
webmarenmodulus: next to the clock05:38
dmAnyone here know where VIDEOS are saved with XVIDCAP app ?05:38
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burnerdm: we heard you the first time... man xvidcap?05:38
dmnm got it05:38
webmarenlol05:38
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chipsdipANyone know what the default edgy fonts.conf and local.conf should be?05:38
modulusright, i'm using orca so probably alt-f2 is a better option. sorry, but ubuntu isn't yet as accessible as desireable.05:38
dmburner i already did that, no info, and yes thats nice, but its good to ask twice sometimes, because the person who might know might of missed it the first.05:39
burnermodulus: the volume icon should be in your panel :P05:39
modulusgetting close though. and thanks for info.05:39
modulusyeah well, i wish orca would let me know what's in the panel and how to go there :-)05:39
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modulusso far alt-f1 and alt-f2 are my ways out.05:40
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saxofoner...meh, until this gets figured out w/ the tablet, I'm using windows...   *sigh*05:40
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webmarenthat's sad05:42
webmarenhe had to go into windows05:42
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drivera90How do I make the (c) symbol?05:43
drivera90Or, well, any special symbol, for that matter?05:43
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Alwacan some help me ... i have some problem with my broadcom wlan card05:43
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webmarenalwa: tried ndiswrapper05:43
webmaren?05:43
w3ccvAlwa, what05:44
Hyper_Mam!ipv605:44
ubotuTo disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv405:44
w3ccvs your problem05:44
Alwano only bcm43xx05:44
webmaren!ndiswrapper05:44
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:44
dark_lightwebmaren, i have some resistence in calling #ubuntu a "tech support"05:44
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webmarendark_light: -_-05:45
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dark_lightwebmaren, well, the channel is mantained by volunteers05:45
w3ccvdark_light, probably about as good as some of the offshore tech support05:45
webmarendark_light: well, our volunteers are smart than microsoft's "knowledgeable experts"05:46
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dark_lightthe difference is: the people here isn't obligated05:46
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w3ccvdark_light, the difference is: the people here are dedicated05:47
dark_lightdo it just because want. so, ocadionally, some people dont get help, and cant blame on that05:47
dark_lightw3ccv, well, too, but.. :)05:48
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drivera90How do I make the (c) symbol?05:48
needhel1Anyone familar with running Windows games under ubuntu ? I get some weird errors when trying to execute it. (seems I have to reinstall Windows :( )05:48
drivera90Or, well, any special symbol, for that matter?05:48
webmarenif we didn't answer...05:48
webmaren...we don't know05:48
webmaren!symbols05:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about symbols - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:48
nauj27drivera90: , copy from character map05:49
drivera90Maybe someone woke up. Y'never know.05:49
dark_lightneedhel1, do you have wine or cedega?05:49
webmaren!characters05:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about characters - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:49
nolimitsoya_drivera90, ctrl+alt+c05:49
w3ccvdrivera90, wher do you want to make that symbol?05:49
nolimitsoya_drivera90, strike that... altgr + c05:49
needhel1dark_light: I use wine05:49
drivera90Oh. Thanks.05:50
nolimitsoya_drivera90, most of them are ctrl+alt+<something>. , fex, is altgr+m (for micro05:50
nolimitsoya_)05:50
needhel1dark_light: I have tried three different Windows PC games. No luck with any of them :(05:50
dark_lightneedhel1, you typed wine exec.exe, right?05:50
needhel1sure05:50
hatter438how would i change gtk theme without using gnome?05:50
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nolimitsoya_hatter438, use whatever tools your wm gave you05:50
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burnerneedhel1: wine setup.exe ?05:50
dark_lightneedhel1, any errors? if yes, paste them at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org05:50
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=== burner plays warcraft 3 pretty regularly
hatter438fluxbox has none for gtk05:51
burnerhatter438: gtk-theme-switch2 ?05:51
needhel1dark_light: Game 1: odd Windows error turns up at once (Application Error....). Game 2: lets me install, but odd errors turns up when trying to run the game. Game 3: Also lets me install, but not play. It asks me for the original CD, not backup CD even though I DO use the original CD!05:52
burnerhatter438: or modify the text files... flux isn't very GUI oriented05:52
hatter438gtk-theme-switch, ill look into that05:53
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needhel1dark_light, burner: here is the error for one of the games: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38770/05:53
burnerhatter438: gtk-theme-switch 2 though...    gtk-theme-switch is for gtk1 themes05:54
dark_lightneedhel1, maybe some dlls missing? or, hmm.. what about trying cedega? (note: cedega isnt free software)05:54
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burnerneedhel1: do you have the latest wine?  0.9.28?  available via repos from winehq.com05:54
needhel1dark_light: hmm.. how can I know which dll's should be missing? I will try cedega05:55
needhel1burner: Wine 0.9.905:55
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webmarenneedhell: there's your problem05:56
webmarenneedhell: upgrade05:56
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dark_lightneedhel1, first try the lastest wine :P and, i don't know :( seems very gamwe-specific (ah, actually cedega has a bypass over this original cd thing. but try wine first)05:56
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needhel1dark_light, burner: here is the error for one of the other 3 games: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38773/05:57
burner!wine | needhel105:57
ubotuneedhel1: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.05:57
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naelphinis there any way of getting vlc 0.8.6 without compiling it?05:58
naelphinon dapper05:58
burnernaelphin: videolan.org has .deb's of it05:59
dark_lightneedhel1, do you have a 3d video card? is 3d acceleration working?05:59
dintwhat is SMP?05:59
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Carlos33hola gente05:59
fowlduckmerry Christmas05:59
naelphinburner: all their download page says is to use apt get, which gets 0.8.4 :/05:59
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dark_lightneedhel1, i think you can configure wine to do software rendering instead05:59
dintevery boot I got SMP error a.k.a my Laptop is not supported SMP. Can I turn off this error?05:59
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burnersmp == multiple processors06:00
Carlos33hello everyone. Merry christmas06:00
con-manhey its christmas!06:00
needhel1dark_light: have abit nvidia  siluro t20006:00
kdjfsHi, how can i chane the default player for mp3 from totem to xmss?06:00
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burnerkdjfs: right click a .mp3 file, properties, open with tab06:01
dark_lightneedhel1, type glxinfo|grep direct06:01
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webmaren_[Christoops06:01
dark_lightneedhel1, you should see direct rendering: Yes06:01
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kdjfsthank burner06:01
webmarenstupid character limit06:02
naelphinburner: any links to a downloadable version of 0.8.6?06:02
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needhel1dark_light: not really.... this is what I get: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38776/06:02
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dark_lightwebmaren, well.. :P06:03
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ironfroggyI have a holiday emergency. anyone know how i can grab the full image off a usb drive? i need to save it to salvage some deleted holiday photos later.06:03
dark_light!nvidia06:03
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ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:03
dark_lightops06:03
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webmarendark_light: I wanted to say webmaren_[Christmas_FTW] _\(`o`)/06:03
webmarendark_light: but it got cut off06:03
Carlos33hello everyone06:03
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dark_lightwebmaren, big nicks here at xchat seems ugly :(06:04
ironfroggywhere do block devices show up for usb storage devices?06:04
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webmarendark_light: it would push the screen over a lot, wouldn't it....06:04
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burnernaelphin: i can't find that vlc package... sorry :\06:04
dark_lightwebmaren, yea:P06:04
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dark_lightneedhel1, see that link06:05
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ironfroggylook, i know its rude to come into a channel demanding help without being polite about it, reading the manual first, etc. but im in a huge pile of shit if i cant get these lost pictures back.06:06
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ironfroggyif anyone knows anything, please, please help me06:06
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burnernaelphin: you could try to grab the edgy package and use it in dapper... package.ubuntu.com06:06
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burnerironfroggy: does it mount at all?06:06
haxalityhey all, I need to delete some corrupted files from my external hard drive06:06
kdjfsanyone know how to x-chat systray? links maybe?06:07
haxalityhow would I go about doing that06:07
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naelphindri is only used for 3d right? it isn't needed for 2 acceleration06:07
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burnerkdjfs: there's a package for it... xchat-systray06:07
burnerkdjfs: or use xchat-gnome which has a systray icon06:07
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kdjfsoh, sorry i've already installed it but how to enable/config?06:08
ironfroggyburner: kind of. the problem is that im using kubuntu (no help from them) and it just using a kioslave to access the things. which means i cant use things like the ntfs tools on it, or access the direct block device.06:08
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burner!ntfs06:08
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse06:08
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kdjfsok! i've got it06:09
burnerironfroggy: you could try fuse06:09
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Nontitledoes mac use ntfs?06:09
Siph0nhey, i tryed installing vlc from Synaptic, but my dvd still doesnt play.... i also tryed to do an "sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2" but it says it isnt available and be available in another source... any ideas? im pretty sure i have the multiverse source in my sources.list file06:09
nolimitsoya_ironfroggy, 'sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g' and changing fs type in your fstab to 'ntfs-3g' will get you write access06:09
burnerNontitle: no06:09
haxalityexit06:09
burner!fuse | ironfroggy06:09
Nontitleoh06:09
ironfroggynolimitsoya_: i dont want write access. as a matter of fact, id rather avoid it06:09
ubotuironfroggy: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse06:09
regalhey guys if i just extract the files from the iso and burn them will it work?06:09
ironfroggyburner: i use fuse, but im unsure how it will work here.06:10
nolimitsoya_ironfroggy, then mount with -r06:10
burnerregal: possibly... but if it's a bootable cd, it will not06:10
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ironfroggyi need access to the disk image, not the files.06:10
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CheyenneDDoes anyone know how to install and run a linux SA-MP server?06:10
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regalburner, what burning software do you recommend?06:10
nolimitsoya_ironfroggy, as in partimage?06:10
godtviskenDoes anyone have a Canon Elura 100?06:10
Naik0What is "fireglcontrolpanel" and how do i get it?06:10
nolimitsoya_regal, k3b06:10
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ironfroggynolimitsoya_: possibly, but would that work with a usb disk?06:11
regali miss ubuntu ill talk to you when im on it06:11
nolimitsoya_ironfroggy, yes, it should. you can also use dd to make a disc image06:11
nolimitsoya_or dar06:11
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nolimitsoya_or any number of things :)06:11
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burnerironfroggy: sure... but partimage blows... there's isn't a great disk image backup app (like norton ghost) for linux06:11
ironfroggynolimitsoya_: thats what im trying to do. but i need a block device for those.06:11
ironfroggythats what im trying to figure out.06:11
CheyenneDDoes anyone know how to install and run a linux SA-MP server?06:11
nolimitsoya_burner, sure there is! :D its called tar+gzip ;)06:12
x-r00t-xi gotting error with this #!/usr/bin/php is not found. what i do now ?06:12
regalnolimitsoya_, i need for windows06:12
burnerx-r00t-x: when exactly do you get this?06:12
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ironfroggysee the problem is my usb drive does not have a block device in /dev, so i have nothing for things like dd to operate on!06:12
Naik0What is "fireglcontrolpanel" and how do i get it?06:12
webmarenx-r00t-x: make sure you have php06:12
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regali need some burning software for windows to burn ubuntu06:12
burnertar+gzip is not good when bad blocks appear06:12
x-r00t-xi do have php06:12
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regalany suggestions?06:12
burnerregal: imgburn06:12
x-r00t-xbash: ./exploits: /usr/bin/php: bad interpreter: No such file or directory06:12
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nolimitsoya_regal, there is a suggestion for infrarecorder in the burning iso faq06:13
webmarenx-r00t-x: reinstall it in synaptic06:13
ironfroggyso any idea how to get the block device? i dont even seem to have the usbstorage module.06:13
ironfroggydo i need that?06:13
x-r00t-xwebmaren, reinstall what?06:13
nolimitsoya_ironfroggy, are you sure there isnt one? its usualy named sd<something>06:13
webmarenx-r00t-x: php06:13
x-r00t-xno way06:13
x-r00t-x:-S06:13
ironfroggynolimitsoya_: im sure.06:13
Naik0What is "fireglcontrolpanel" and how do i get it?06:13
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regalnolimitsoya_, thx :)06:13
CheyenneDDoes anyone know how to install and run a linux SA-MP server?06:13
xyzim off to play GTR 206:13
xyzBYE all06:14
nolimitsoya_ironfroggy, thats odd... are you mounting through fuse then?06:14
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Nontitlewhat does SA-MP stand for?06:14
ironfroggynolimitsoya_: no, a kioslave.06:14
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CheyenneDSan Andreas Multiplayer06:14
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CheyenneDAs in GTA: SA06:14
Nontitledoubt theres one for linux06:14
ironfroggynolimitsoya_: thats what im trying to get around so i can copy the block device06:14
nolimitsoya_ironfroggy, cant you just kill it and let it mount the regular way? booting in recovery mode should do the trick...06:14
burnerironfroggy: it's not mounted in /media/sda1 or something?06:14
CheyenneDIts just the server for the game06:14
Nontitlei know06:14
pradeepSiph0n, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs06:15
Nontitlebut i still doubt theres one for linux06:15
nolimitsoya_burner, thats not a block device :)06:15
CheyenneDDoubt theres not one what?06:15
LynoureCheyenneD: So you have found a version of it for Linux? Where?06:15
ironfroggythere is no block device. i can not use mount. i need a block device, and how i get one of those is what im asking.06:15
Siph0npradeep: thanx ill check that out06:15
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Nontitlea san andreas server for linux06:15
burnerironfroggy: dmesg... does it show up?06:15
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naelphinwhat's the name of the linux app that has a legal css licence?06:16
ironfroggythe device connecting, yeah06:16
naelphinthere is one, but you need to pay06:16
pradeepSiph0n, the name of the package is libdvdread3 <- this apparently has libdvdcss206:16
ironfroggyi know you dont use kioslave in ubuntu, thats why im asking here. how do you get a block device to appear?06:16
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Siph0npradeep, it says i already have that, but ill keep reading that site :)06:16
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x-r00t-xcan anyone uplpoad php file from /usr/bin?06:16
x-r00t-xcan anyone uplpoad php from /usr/bin?06:17
Hyper_Mam!ipv606:17
ubotuTo disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv406:17
Naik0What is "fireglcontrolpanel" and how do i get it?06:17
burnerx-r00t-x: no one is going to help an unskilled script kiddie ;)06:17
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burner!firegl | Naik006:18
ironfroggyx-r00t-x: php rots your mind. stay clean.06:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about firegl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:18
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burner!ati | Naik006:18
ubotuNaik0: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:18
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x-r00t-xburner, i am not script kiddie06:18
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burnerx-r00t-x: you're trying to run ./exploits and you're not a script kiddie?  You don't even know how php scripts work it seems :P06:18
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x-r00t-xwtf are you talking about burner06:19
burner[10:13]  <x-r00t-x> bash: ./exploits: /usr/bin/php: bad interpreter: No such file or directory06:19
Nontitlewhat is ./exploits?06:19
CheyenneDDoes anyone know how to install and run a linux SA-MP server? The download is here http://www.sa-mp.com/files/samp01b.linux.cpp6.tar.gz and I can't get it to run.06:20
x-r00t-xwhy i cant give a name?06:20
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Courtneyhello world06:20
x-r00t-xi can give name like ./fuck . so that mean i gonna f__ck with something?06:20
Nontitlesorry i was just asking06:20
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dark_lighthhahahaha06:21
haxalityI can't format or delete files from my external hard drive.06:21
worldCourtney: hello06:21
LynoureCheyenneD: have you tried following the README already? it's not very clear, but usually a good start. (I must admit I have never even played GTA, let alone installed this)06:21
haxalitythis is incredibly frustrating.06:21
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burnerhaxality: use gparted to format it?06:21
haxalityreturns an error every time06:21
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haxalityso does fdisk06:21
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dark_lighti see script kiddie people06:21
Courtney'world what are you doing06:21
kitchehaxality: what errors?06:21
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pradeephaxality, you probably don't have write access .. what type is it formatted to?06:22
haxalityfdisk tells me the partition is in use06:22
procrastinato1even though I pass the uid=me param to mount.cifs, the uid is still set to 500 which is non-existent on the client box -- what coulld be wrong?06:22
haxalityit's supposed to be FAT32, but I think the partition table got corrupted when I accidentally turned it off06:22
nolimitsoya_haxality, sync and umount06:22
haxalitynolimitsoya_: I did, it still gave me that error06:22
nolimitsoya_haxality, in that case, write a new partition table06:22
phichipsihi all, i use ximian evolution but the mails i write are recieved with non-readable characters when i write german special chars (umlaut). what could i do about it?06:22
x-r00t-xcan anyone uplpoad php file from /usr/bin?06:22
nolimitsoya_haxality, youll loose all data thjough...06:22
haxalitythat's fine, it's new :P06:22
nolimitsoya_haxality, there are tools to recover lost partitions if you lost anything important06:23
LynoureCheyenneD: and they do have a channel #sa-mp on server irc.gtanet.com, so you could ask them for help, more likely to find it there06:23
haxalitynope, I just want to format it.06:23
haxalitybut every tool I've tried gives me errors06:23
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burnerximian?  phichipsi... 2000 was 6 years ago!06:23
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burnerhaxality: sudo gparted  ??06:24
haxalityit doesn't work.06:24
nolimitsoya_haxality, write a new partition table. perhaps clean the drive with schred first06:24
haxalityschred?06:24
phichipsiburner, okay then i use novell evolution.06:24
haxality*shred?06:24
LynoureCheyenneD: and, there is some help on their wiki at http://wiki.sa-mp.com/wiki/Linux_Server06:24
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LynoureCheyenneD: Good luck, merry holiday of your choice and so on :)06:25
burnerphichipsi: i'm just teasin... wish I knew an answer to your question though06:25
haxalityok, shredding entire device now06:25
haxalityhopefully that fixes it, heh06:25
Nontitle!UBIQUITY06:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about UBIQUITY - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:25
sinisterguyhow would i be able to change the resolution of the virtual console as well as the console colours?06:25
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Nontitle!ubiquity06:25
ubotuubiquity: Ubuntu live CD installer. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.5 (edgy), package size 1594 kB, installed size 6188 kB06:25
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nolimitsoya_haxality, you might want to take a look at 'man shred' first, or things will take ages06:26
nolimitsoya_haxality, one pass and then zeroes should be plenty06:26
nolimitsoya_the default is 25passes i think...06:26
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nolimitsoya_can an xfs filesystem be grown towards the beginning of a drive?06:27
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kitchenolimitsoya_: don't think so of course I have never seen a filesystem got forward it's always at the end06:27
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nolimitsoya_kitche, ok, thats a drag :( thank you for responding though :)06:28
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nolimitsoya_kitche, might i move it then? :)06:28
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fadumpthey ya'll06:29
kitcheyou can move a partition I used to do it when I was using Mandrake 10.106:29
nolimitsoya_kitche, how would i do that?06:29
NontitleMandrake was a better name than Mandriva06:30
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x-r00t-xhow do i install cgi for php?06:31
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kitchenolimitsoya_: not sure how to do it with gparted I use qtparted myself06:31
fadumptapt-get ??06:31
burnerx-r00t-x: you need a webserver set up first and foremote06:31
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burnerforemost that is06:31
fadumptadd the thingy to your apache config06:31
packagedeliverermerry xmas !06:31
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nolimitsoya_kitche, ok, well with both qtparted and gparted the 'move' option is greyed out06:31
x-r00t-xburner, everything done then?06:31
fadumptcgi should already be installed06:32
x-r00t-xfor php?06:32
burnerx-r00t-x: no, you have to edit your apache.conf06:32
nolimitsoya_kitche, i was up all last night trying to figure this out, booting one live partition editing system after another :)06:32
fadumptyou just need to add the folder06:32
fadumptto your web folder area06:32
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fadumptthingy06:32
GreyGhostmerry christmas once again !!!!!06:32
x-r00t-xburner, where is that conf located ?06:32
fadumptmerry christmas06:32
fadumpt /etc/apache206:32
fadumpti think06:32
fadumptdepends on your version06:32
fadumpt /etc/apache if it's 1.006:33
packagedeliverermerry xmas GreyGhost =D06:33
x-r00t-xtnx06:33
needhelpI have tried to install three different Windows PC-games on ubuntu. None of them will work. Here is the erros for one of them: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38780/06:33
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GreyGhostpackagedeliverer ,same to u !!!!06:34
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nolimitsoya_needhelp, most games doesnt work at all. check the list of compatible applications on winehq, and perhaps considder cedega06:34
nolimitsoya_*-d06:34
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needhelpHere is another error I get when I try to run the PC game: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38781/06:34
ironfroggywhat packages do i need so i can mount a usb drive?06:34
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nolimitsoya_ironfroggy, they should be plug and pray...06:35
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fadumptusb drives should just mount06:35
needhelpnolimitsoya_: all three games are listed on wine hqs homepage06:35
fadumptwhat fs?06:35
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nolimitsoya_needhelp, yes, but with what levelof functionality, and installed using what method?06:35
ironfroggywell, they arent. i dont have the drivers for usb storage devices.06:35
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ironfroggyso there are no devices to mount06:35
fadumptall of my ubuntu installs mount usb drives without a problem06:35
nolimitsoya_ironfroggy, is this a vanilla ubuntu install? what version?06:35
cyphasesame herw06:35
fadumptI had a problem with a ext3 external backup drive once though06:35
cyphasehere*06:35
ironfroggyits kubuntu06:35
nolimitsoya_ironfroggy, what version?06:36
fadumptbut fat32 usb drives work good (gnome based ubuntu that is)06:36
ironfroggybut they are being no help, so i need to know how its done in ubuntu.06:36
fadumptKubuntu is inferior that's why :-D06:36
ironfroggyit was 6.06 i think06:36
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ironfroggyfadumpt: normally id stand up for it, but right now im just worried about recovering the lost photos of my childs first time opening presents on the holiday.06:36
fadumptubuntu 6.06 (gnome) mounted fine, iunno about kubuntu06:36
needhelpnolimitsoya_: what do you mean? here is one of the games I try run with wine (installing worked fine): http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=389206:37
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fadumptoh :(06:37
fadumptdo you have another computer06:37
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fadumptjust to recover the pictures06:37
fadumptbefore doing anything rash to mount the drive06:37
cyphaseironfroggy: does your computer even see the volume?06:37
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kitcheneedhelp: it says the game itself does not work for Sonix Heroes06:37
GreyGhostneedhelp , i suppose this is one of em? http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=597706:37
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infidel!ati06:37
fadumpthop in a terminal and go to /dev06:37
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:37
nolimitsoya_needhelp, http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=597706:38
GreyGhostneedhelp ,read the what desn't work part...06:38
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nolimitsoya_needhelp, see, that game isnt supported :)06:38
kitcheSonix/Sonic06:38
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ironfroggyno06:38
fadumptfrog?06:38
fadumptoh okay06:38
ironfroggyim on vacation, no oter computer06:38
fadumptanything in /dev?06:39
nolimitsoya_needhelp, 'installs'='yes', 'runs'='no', 'rating'='garbage' :)06:39
fadumptlike hda2 or sda106:39
fadumptstuff like that?06:39
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ironfroggyno.  i looked. the only scsi devices is my harddrive.06:39
fadumpthmm06:39
ironfroggylike i said, i dont have the usb drivers.06:39
Siph0nwhen i go to file->Open Disc, is Device Name suppose to be blank? cause it is.... could that be why my movies arent playing?06:39
ironfroggyi dont know which packages contain those.06:39
fadumptwhat kind of usb drive is it?06:39
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fadumptoh06:39
nolimitsoya_!dvd | Siph0n06:39
ubotuSiph0n: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages06:39
Siph0nbtw: im talking about in vlc06:39
Siph0nok06:39
fadumptusb drivers should be standard06:39
ironfroggyits a camera, but presents as a standard usb storage device.06:39
nolimitsoya_Siph0n, you need the deryption service06:39
fadumpt!usb06:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:40
nolimitsoya_*decryption06:40
needhelpGreyGhost: youre right. But Im also having trouble with this game: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=525206:40
ironfroggyits a Canan Rebel XT, if that makes a difference.06:40
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GreyGhostneedhelp ,what version of wine?06:41
Siph0nnolimitsoya_, i already got the decryption thing06:41
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needhelpGreyGhost: Both http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=5252 and http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=5962 should work. But not for me06:41
kitcheironfroggy: usb drivers are in the kernel\06:41
fadumptoh camera :)06:41
fadumptyeah that helps06:41
nolimitsoya_Siph0n, but is it enabled? is your drive region locked?06:41
needhelpWine 0.9.906:41
nolimitsoya_Siph0n, i suggest you go through the faq i messaged you06:41
kitcheironfroggy: well you might have to do some googling to figure out how to get that camera working on Linux06:41
fadumptcameras should just work too :-/06:41
fadumptstupid KDE06:42
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GreyGhostneedhelp ,try updating to 0.9.13. they have been tested with it u know...06:42
nolimitsoya_needhelp, why dont you try .9.28?06:42
Siph0nnolimit: i going through the faq now06:42
kitcheironfroggy: it's a flash memory camera?06:42
GreyGhostneedhelp ,yeah the latest one.... maybe features were added to wine needed by those games....06:42
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ironfroggykitche: but is every single driver included by default?06:43
fadumptI'm gonna guess you don't have a card reader or nuthin like that right?06:43
needhelpnolimitsoya_:  'sudo apt-get install wine' for upgrading?06:43
ironfroggyi cant google.06:43
Naik0What is "fireglcontrolpanel" and how do i get it?06:43
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nolimitsoya_needhelp, add the winehq repo first06:43
ironfroggyvery bad connection. irc is about the only thing that works over the lag i have to deal with.06:43
nolimitsoya_needhelp, http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb06:43
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needhelpsudo apt-get install wine sais: "wine is already the newest version."06:43
nolimitsoya_needhelp, when youve added the repo, do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine06:43
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nolimitsoya_needhelp, please pay attention06:44
Nontitledo you have the wine repo in your sources.list?06:44
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kitcheironfroggy: every driver that the kernel supports is either a module or built into the kernel, with camera you have to do some digging to figure out how to use it06:44
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Nontitleguys, what can i use to reconfigure GRUB?06:44
nolimitsoya_!grub | Nontitle06:44
ubotuNontitle: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto06:44
GreyGhostneedhelp , http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb06:44
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GreyGhostneedhelp ,just follow that and u shuuld be fine....06:45
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nolimitsoya_GreyGhost, ive already pointed him there, along with a description of things to do:)06:45
bashirhey06:45
_Brandon_hi, how can i pass other boot option to the installation cd?06:45
nilslSomebody got a good sources.list-file?06:45
fadumpthttp://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php?product=2828&cat=all06:45
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fadumptthat might be a start froggy06:45
Nontitlei just got a 160gb hard drive and installed xp on 80gb, then installed linux on 80gb, now when i go to load up GRUB it says error 1706:45
Nontitle!grub06:45
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto06:45
GreyGhost nolimitsoya_ ,oh missed that ...i was in another #,,,,06:45
bashirhow come when i add programs to my startup in hte sessions config in the preferences menu they disappear on reboot?06:46
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elysium444Is it safe to use ntfs on external hd?06:46
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dmAnyone know how to install Gimpshop properly, its installed, but is not changing gimp to look like Adobe Photoshop06:46
kitchebashir: when you logout shutdown do you have the save session checkbox marked?06:46
nolimitsoya_elysium444, its just as "safe" as using it on an internal drive06:46
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elysium444so?06:46
frogger0hi!  how do i solve this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38777/     http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38778/06:46
nolimitsoya_elysium444, so what?06:47
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frogger0i do sudo apt-get update and thats what i get on 1.06:47
elysium444is ntfs safe?06:47
bashirno, the automatically save changes to session is not checked06:47
dmelysium444 very, but linux cant write to it ,06:47
bashirit needs to be?06:47
Nontitlesomewhat06:47
kitchebashir: yes it needs to be checked06:47
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nolimitsoya_elysium444, its pretty much the crappiest journaling fs in existance, and linux support is experimental so far, but mostly functional06:47
frogger0and on second i add key but still stays the same06:47
bashirok thanks06:47
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nolimitsoya_dm,  elysium444, linux can write06:48
elysium444thanks06:48
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dmnolimitsoya yes, but its not safe06:48
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nolimitsoya_dm, depends on you concept of safe06:48
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dmnolimitsoya :P06:49
dmAnyone know how to install Gimpshop properly, its installed, but is not changing gimp to look like Adobe Photoshop06:49
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nolimitsoya_dm, with the latest fuse implementations like captive (thats as safe as windows ntfs) and ntfs-3g (very few reports of failure on 386 arch) its not russian roulette anymore06:49
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fadumptif you are still withus ironfroggy, try this too:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=267683&highlight=kubuntu+usb+camera06:50
bashirwith that checked it just loads what you had open before, not what was listed in the startup tab06:50
bashirnor does it save the additional entries i put into the tab06:50
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dmnolimitsoya_ ah wasnt aware of that :P but i try to avoid NTFS like the plague now.06:51
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juanomerry xmas everyone06:51
nolimitsoya_dm, thats still a good thing, since the fs is crap in every way :P06:51
WarboHi, just wondering: Are people experiencing "403: Foridden... your query looks similar to automated requests from a computer virus or spyware application." when going on Google, or is it something dodgy with Epiphany? I have been mangling my search terms for the past couple of weeks to get around this :( (I am using 64bit Edgy with all of the latest updates by the way)06:51
kitcheWarbo: your probably using bad dns servers06:52
dmnolimitsoya_ *agree06:52
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needhelpAnother wine problem when trying to run a Windows game: A error message occurs saying: "Please insert the original disc instead of a backup. See www.securom.com/copy for more details". Even though I DO use the original CD...06:52
dmIs there a specific Gimp channel?06:52
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needhelpdm: #gimp06:52
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nolimitsoya_needhelp, thats because of copyprotection06:52
fadumpt #gimp has 36 people in it06:52
bashirhow do i set the programs i want to startup, but nessessarily being the same ones i have open when i log out?06:52
kitcheneedhelp: that is the copyright on the cd, and only cedega really helps in that matter06:52
dmneedhelp lol thanks06:52
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nolimitsoya_needhelp, as i said, very few games actualy work. check out cedega, but your best bet is a dual boot06:53
tomcehi, did anyone try to transfer contacts with a motorola razr?06:53
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nolimitsoya_tomce, no06:53
nolimitsoya_tomce, well, im sure someone did, but i didnt :)06:53
Warbobashir: GNOME's startup programs are in System>Preferences>Sessions>Startup Programs, and I think there is an option (probably buried deep withing gconf-editor) to restart the applcations open when you last logged out06:54
wkerzendanyone can help me with grub? thanks in advance06:54
tomcenolimitsoya_: what's the best idea for trying to do it anyway? which program?06:54
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nolimitsoya_tomce, i have no clue :)06:54
needhelpnolimitsoya, kitche: That game is this game: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=525206:54
infidelcan someon explain this? sudo aptitude install module-assistant build-essential debhelper debconf dh-make fakeroot libstdc++5 linux-headers-$(uname -r)06:54
Warbowkerzend: What's the problem, maybe someone knows the solution?06:54
bashirk thanks, i will look in gconf-editor06:54
tomcenolimitsoya_: thanks for you help anyway :-)06:54
nolimitsoya_needhelp, my last awnser is still valid. stop trying :) you just get your head hurt from banging it to the wall06:54
wkerzendWarbo: i get a grub error 15 after running windows, i had that error before but i cant recall what I did to fix it, i have a rescue op06:55
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needhelpnolimitsoya: okay... but wineHQ's hp sais it works fine...06:55
GreyGhostinfidel , i think u have to replace $(uname -r) with what the console returns when u run uname -r06:55
nolimitsoya_!grub | wkerzend06:55
ubotuwkerzend: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto06:55
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GreyGhostinfidel ,that i believe will be ur kernel vesion ....06:56
[BTF] Chm0dmerry xmas everyone.  Can anyone tell me if they have problems installing the 9746 nvidia drivers on unbuntu edgy?06:56
nolimitsoya_needhelp, but you are using an ages old version of wine. update!06:56
juanowkerzend: try installing grub again06:56
Warbobashir: Just checked. In gconf-editor go in apps>gnome-session>options>auto_save_session and tick it06:56
bashirthanks06:56
needhelpnolimitsoya_: I just did, wine-0.9.2806:56
nolimitsoya_needhelp, have you done the winecfg thing?06:56
wkerzendjuano: ill google that thanks06:57
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needhelpbeen there yes, not 100% sure if everything is set up correct thu06:57
juanowkerzend: k..06:57
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juanowkerzend: ill try to ocme up with something06:57
nolimitsoya_needhelp, then a regerssion bug might be in order. as i said, gaming under wine isnt very functional, at all06:57
daveanyes, I had problems with the 9746 driver on edgy.  I just used the synaptic driver instead.06:57
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[BTF] Chm0dhttp://pastebin.ca/29174106:57
[BTF] Chm0dthis is my log06:57
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[BTF] Chm0doh davean i see06:58
[BTF] Chm0di dont want to use the synaptic driver Id like to keep running my beryl ;)06:58
infidelGreyGhost: ok i'll give it a shot06:58
dmok,.. how do i uninstall something without apt trying to remove ubuntu-desktop06:58
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needhelpnolimitsoya. okay, thanks for your information06:58
dmsudo apt-get remove libgimp2.0 gimp-data , and its trying to uninstall ubuntu-desktop06:59
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tomcehow do i transfer contacts to my cell phone?06:59
kdjfsanyone here playing counter strike?06:59
kitchedm: ubuntu-desktop can be removed it's just a meta package06:59
daveanI ended up reinstalling edgy after putting on 9746.  But the synaptic version worked after editing the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.06:59
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rambo3kdjfs, /j #wine-hq06:59
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dmkitche which means?06:59
GreyGhostinfidel ,i believe u wanted that command to work right? or did u want an eplanation as to what it did?06:59
[BTF] Chm0dhmm ill dive deeper into the problem see what everyone is saying06:59
rambo3kdjfs, /j #winehq06:59
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kitchedm: it just pulls in the dependencies to have a full gnome setup07:00
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kitchedm: the real package for the desktop is just called gnome07:00
kdjfstq07:00
dmkitche ah thanks07:00
daveanI'm pretty new to ubuntu, so I don't know what beryl is. ;)07:00
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kdjfsrambo3: only me07:01
[1] knight17bery will make your linux box like vista07:01
leo_Merry Christmas etc, everyone. My sister wants to try ubuntu on her very old packard bell pc. The only thing that's making me wary of letting her is that she can only use wifi and i've never managed to set up a wireless connection successfully before. what do people think my chances of getting ubuntu online with Packard Bell PC that's over 4 years old, with 128mb of RAM, a 902MHz processor, and dongle Belkin dongle/router?07:01
infidelGreyGhost: trying to get the ati installer to work like on the webpage07:01
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[1] knight17Daeley, but not exactly it has a good 3d interface07:01
juanowkerzend: try this http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=12265607:01
juanowkerzend: hope it helps07:01
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old-monk!be07:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about be - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:02
old-monk!nl07:02
ubotuNederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl07:02
nolimitsoya_!beryl | davean07:02
GreyGhostinfidel ,ahh ...k ... that should get u the tools needed to compile it then ....07:02
ubotudavean: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl07:02
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fo0b4erhi, can someone help me get my USB mouse to work?07:02
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juanohi fo0b4er07:02
fo0b4erhi07:03
GreyGhosttime for me to go....cya all...07:03
daveanThanks for the info on beryl.07:03
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juanofo0b4er: OS?07:03
fo0b4erxubuntu07:03
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fo0b4erthere's nobody in #xubuntu...07:04
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nolimitsoya_fo0b4er, there is 78 ppl in there :)07:05
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godtviskenAnyone know about MiniDV cameras + Linux? Specifically the Canon Elura 10007:05
fo0b4eri know but nobody's talkin07:05
juanofo0b4er: does serial mouse work ook?07:05
fo0b4erits a laptop, i have a touchpad07:05
leo_what do people think my chances of getting ubuntu online with a Packard Bell PC that's over 4 years old, with 128mb of RAM, a 902MHz processor, and a Belkin dongle/router? I've never managed to set up a wireless network before...07:06
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fo0b4erand the touchpad works fine07:06
juanoahh ok07:06
rambo3!fluxbuntu |leo_07:07
ubotuleo_: fluxbuntu is a LPAE-standard compliant, Ubuntu-based derivative that maintains the goal of running on a wide range of mobile devices and computers (low-end & high-end). It is lightweight, swift and efficient. | Support Channel: #fluxbuntu on freenode | Homepage: http://fluxbuntu.org/07:07
juanofo0b4er: let me see if i can come up with something07:07
yannhi; got a problem with my wlan card (iwp2100): i wrecked the driver while wanting to get it to work in WPA and now i "killed" eth1 (previously wlan)07:07
fo0b4erok, thanks juano07:07
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rambo3!madwifi > leo_07:08
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leo_ubotu: i'll give it a look. thanks.07:08
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QwertyMleo_, ubotu's a bot :)07:09
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teperdonohola07:10
harrykarciao07:10
rambo3selam aleikum07:10
leo_QwertyM: Got that. ta.07:10
IdleOnebonjour07:10
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QwertyMhehe :p07:10
yannsomeone knows how to check the hardware again like during installation?07:10
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harrykarhi all guys07:11
yannlike re-run install in order to restore the drivers?07:11
sherii just got a new moniter and when i try to boot with it xorg wont start07:11
rambo3fixres > sheri07:12
IdleOneyann,  backup /home and anything else you want to save then reinstall07:12
yannok07:12
yannno other way?07:12
CourtneyHey guys my sister deleted the pics off her sd card and now it won't d/l pics from camera to sd or sd to comp what the hell man07:12
IdleOneyann,  I dont know any07:12
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yannidleone thx07:12
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binarydigitCourtney: try formatting the card07:13
CourtneyCan anyone offer advice07:13
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sa1k0hey07:13
yannidleone do you know if thee is a network install possible?07:13
sa1k0can anybody help me with something07:13
rambo3yann, what do you mean restore drivers ? drivers is microsoft work , modules are in kernel  if you think of those reinstalling kernel maby07:13
juanofo0b4er: http://www.linuxfocus.org/English/July2005/article383.shtml#383lfindex107:13
juanofo0b4er: try that07:13
fo0b4erthanks juano, ill have a look07:13
sa1k0can anybody help me with something?07:13
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IdleOnesa1k0, ask your question07:14
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yannrambo3 my prob is i wrecked my wlan when trying to get it to work in WPA07:14
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sheriis there a way to boot in a safe graphics mode07:14
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rambo3yann ask ubotu about madwifi07:14
IdleOne!madwifi | yann07:15
ubotuyann: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:15
Lynouresa1k0: everyone here could help you with something, but for knowing whether they can help you with your problem, you need to tell what the problem is07:15
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yannthx all :)07:15
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Zaggynlwhy won't the sound work in ts2? it worked before07:15
Zaggynlno errors in terminal07:15
nolimitsoya_how do i get a usb minolta 2300w printer working on ubuntu? the wizard seems to detecs things just fine till i click the last apply button; then it just sits there a moment, then exits without adding any printer :/07:15
lynucshi all, got a problem with sound.. by playing music  there are allways some shjort clip sounds. the whole soundtrack07:16
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sa1k0I am running open suse, I am trying to install bitchx , how do you do it, im a newbie07:16
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lynucsusing onbaord realtek ac97 soundcard07:16
IdleOnesa1k0, try #suse07:16
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lynucs5.107:16
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Lynouresa1k0: You'd get better help from the opensuse channels, then...07:16
lynucsi mena click sounds07:16
lynucsor sth like that07:17
rambo3you computer is not grounded ?07:17
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lynucsmein?07:17
lynucsmine?07:17
rambo3wi07:17
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sucks05There was an error starting GNOME Setting Daemon. any one can help me ??07:17
fo0b4erjuano, what am i supposed to do exactly?07:17
KlownerGoogle hasn't turned up any answers for me, so I figure I'll ask here. I upgraded my laptop to Edgy and ever since, whenever I go to hibernate the screen turns off but the harddrive activity light doesn't light up like it's dumping mem to swap, and it just sits there without turning off. Anyone have any idea what may cause that?07:17
rambo3can it be static electricity that cousing clicking sounds ?07:17
Pie-ratehow would i burn a divx video/ac3 audio avi file to a vcd on ubuntu?07:17
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lynucswell i dont think so, because they don't appear in windows07:18
Taserhallo07:18
ZaggynlWhen I try 'Sound Recorder', I get an error: 'Your audio settings are invalid, set them better yadda yadda'07:18
Zaggynlwhy does this happen out of the blue? it worked perfectly a little while ago07:18
Zaggynlteamspeak also quit working with the mic07:18
juanofo0b4er: try editing this file: /etc/X11/XF86Config07:18
Lynouresucks05: Sorry, your screen does not show in my surveillence monitors, so could you tell what the error was?07:18
fo0b4erjuano, ok07:19
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rambo3lynucs, can you check aux and such in alsamixer and see if it helps07:19
IdleOneLynoure, lol07:19
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lynucsyeah, i played with alsamixer settings about a hour now07:19
juanofo0b4er: and it seems you have to go where it sais mouse1 and change the protocol to IMPS/207:19
lynucsbut what exactly do you mean07:19
Zaggynlhow do I restart all sound daemons?07:20
sucks05Lynoure : the error message like this07:20
sucks05There was an error starting GNOME Setting Daemon.07:20
sucks05Some things, such as themes, sounds, or background settings may not work correctly.07:20
sucks05The last error message was :07:20
sucks05Did not recive a reply. Possible causes include:the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expire,  or the network connection was broken.07:20
sucks05GNOME will still try to restart the Settings Daemon next time you log in.07:20
ZaggynlI don't want to reboot just to get my $!)(Uin microphone to work07:20
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Courtneybinarydigit: It still says internal mem full on camera though so I don't think my cam's recognizing its even there07:20
fo0b4erjuano, i dont have that file07:20
Lynouresucks05: oops, into pastebin next time, please07:20
fadumptbinarydigit is in here?07:20
sucks05ok thx07:21
Lynouresucks05: Does that persist after you logout - login?07:21
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lynucsanyone knows how to make that clicksounds disappear?? :(07:21
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Courtneybinarydigit: It still says internal mem full on camera though so I don't think my cam's recognizing its even there07:22
sucks05Lynoure : after login my system run so slowly07:22
rambo3lynucs, there is alot of stuff that is not configured in alsa by default . you might check alsa page and see under HW and drivers to set it up properly07:22
Zaggynlhow do I restart the sound daemons?07:22
rambo3alsactl restart i think07:22
lynucsmybe you could tell me after which keywords i should search? or what MIGHT be not configured/installed properly?07:23
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CourtneyI tried reformatting to no avail07:23
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juanofo0b4er: ok.. im checking.. cant find anything still07:23
konamI have a question07:23
rambo3lynucs, you card name ?07:24
fo0b4erjuano, ok, thanks07:24
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konamthere's some plans to make ubuntu available in the Mac-Intel architecture? or plans to make GNU/Linux available in the Intel-Macs without bootcamp?07:25
infidelanyone know why i get this? sudo aptitude install module-assistant build-essential debhelper debconf dh-make fakeroot libstdc++5 linux-headers-$(uname -r)07:25
infidelsudo: timestamp too far in the future: Dec 26 11:22:47 200607:25
rambo3!timestamp07:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about timestamp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:25
Lynoureinfidel: I can tell you how to fix it... but cause can vary07:26
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rambo3infidel, search forums for timestamp too far in the future .07:26
rambo3that becouse your system clock is not set right or wasnt set right under inmstallation07:26
infidelLynoure: how?07:26
lynucsrambo wait a sec07:26
Lynoureinfidel: do  sudo -k   to fix it.07:26
lynucsplz07:27
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wkerzendjuano: are you here? sorry got disco by isp07:27
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lynucsMultimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)07:27
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juanowkerzend:07:27
lynucsthats what lspci shows07:27
sucks05how to play .flv in ubuntu ?07:27
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Lynoureinfidel: one likely cause is drifting system clock and ntp changing the time backwards since last sudo07:28
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infidelLynoure: na that didn't do it, it just gave me another timestamp error07:28
saifhello07:28
Lynoureinfidel: which one?07:28
juanowkerzend: try this http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=12265607:28
saifI nedd urdent help07:28
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saifI need urgent help07:28
konamsucks05 you can convert that file07:28
IdleOnesaif,  ask a question07:28
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infidelLynoure: sudo -k sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Dec 26 11:22:47 200607:28
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wkerzendjuano: had a look at that already but didnt help07:29
konamsucks05 i think that was 'ffmpeg -i *.flv *.avi' or something alike07:29
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rambo3lynucs, you got the same driver  as mine07:29
Lynoureinfidel: try with  sudo -v  then07:29
juanowkerzend: k07:29
rambo3!paste > rambo307:29
infidelLynoure: same error07:29
Lynoureinfidel: if that does not work, I cannot help you today (too ill to dig deeply)07:30
konamsucks05 the * is the name of the file, whatever it could be. but you need to have install the ffmpeg app07:30
haxalityfor some reason I can't copy/paste files from my hard drive to my external hard drive in nautilus07:30
haxalityI can do it in the terminal07:30
haxalitybut I can't use nautilus, the option is greyed out07:30
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kitcheinfidel: your time is probabably ahead of what sudo thinks your time is07:30
fo0b4erjuano: i have to go now, any other ideas?07:30
saifI am running hoary and upgraded libc from the latest feisty reposotaries and also the kernel but unable to boot through the new kernel07:30
sucks05konam : thx bro i will try later07:30
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infidelkitche: should i just do the command as root07:30
webmarenhey guys07:30
saifI am also unable to downgrade libc07:31
kitchesaif: if you are hoary and you updated to libc that feisty uses then your system will be broken07:31
webmarensaif: what release are you on07:31
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kitcheinfidel: or set your time to be correct with hwclock --systohc as root07:31
juanofo0b4er: sorry , cant find anything related.. it should of searched it at install07:31
saifsynaptic is showing 17 packages broken07:32
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juanofo0b4er: be back soon maybe i got somethin07:32
saifI am using 5.0407:32
webmarensaif: what happened to you?07:32
fo0b4erjuano, ok thanks for your help, i'll be back in a few hours07:32
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juanofo0b4er: ok07:32
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saifI am unable to upgrade any package07:32
sherii just got a new moniter and i cant boot with it xorg wont start......it finds my screen but its say there arnt any configurations that will work with the moniter07:32
sherihelp07:32
webmarensaif: can you backup your files07:33
saifyes07:33
webmarensaif: can you burn an iso?07:33
saifno07:33
webmaren:(07:33
AmadeoThe Desktop Ubuntu CD is also the Live CD?07:33
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kitchesheri: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:33
CotRo|eR!mount07:33
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter07:33
kitcheAmadeo: yes07:33
saifI dont have a cd writer07:33
Amadeokitche: Thank you :)07:33
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webmarensaif: what about command-line07:33
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ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse07:34
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webmaren!burniso07:34
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saifI started xchat from the command line07:34
infidelkitche: wow i can't use sudo at all how do i become root07:34
webmarencan you use the burniso command07:34
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psybermerry xmass07:34
saifalso i cnat use virtual console07:34
saifalso i cant use virtual console07:35
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psyberis anyone in here familiar with wine?07:35
lupine_85psyber: wine <file>.exe07:35
webmarencan you download the edgy iso file?07:35
kitcheinfidel: rescue mode when you reboot is the onyl way really07:36
MaheanuuTrying to set up Raid5 array to run under Dapper, nothing but probs...  Being a noob, I am finding that I am knowing just enough to be really out of control07:36
rambo3psyber, /j #winehq07:36
lupine_85doesn't work with a lot of stuff07:36
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webmarensaif: can you download the edgy iso file?07:36
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saifI can dowonload the edgy iso file07:36
kitcheinfidel: then once your in rescue mode use hwclock to sync your hardware time with system time07:36
psyberahh thanks I was wondering if there was a wine IRC channel .. thanks rambo07:36
saifbut I don't have cd writer07:36
infidelkitche: okay thanks07:36
webmarencdrecord doesn't work?07:37
webmarenoh wait07:37
webmarendo you not have a burner drive?07:37
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saifno07:37
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webmarenokay07:37
Maheanuusaif, do you have any USB flash devices?07:37
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webmarenthat could be problematic07:37
saifonly 512mb07:38
webmarensaif: do you have the original CD you installed from07:38
zetotofhello happy christmas to everybody07:38
saifyes07:38
Lynoureinfidel: I'd maybe remove /var/run/sudo/yourusername while I'm at it (cannot remember whether it gets cleared by reboot, and take this with a grain of salt, like I said, I'm ill)07:38
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CotRo|eRhow do i mount ext3 ???07:38
webmarencan you back up all your important files07:38
Maheanuuyou don't have a gig device then?07:38
CotRo|eR!ext307:38
ubotuext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org07:38
saifyes07:38
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saifmay on other partition07:38
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saifmay be on other partition07:38
needhelpMy /dev/hda is 70GiB, where 11GiB is free. Which program do I use to make a new Windows-partition (VFAT) from the free diskspace?07:38
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webmarensaif: ...the idea is to be a complete reinstall07:39
webmarenneedhelp: do you have another bootable disk?07:39
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Maheanuudo you have a doze puter up and running where you can download and burn...  Or, are you on the puter now that is set up under Ubuntu??07:39
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Blissexneedhelp: 'parted' or 'gparted' or 'fdisk' or 'cfdisk' or 'sfdisk' for example07:40
saifI think I should get a cd of edgy and do a fresh install. That would be better07:40
webmarenneedhelp: not smart to partition the disk you are booting from07:40
webmarensaif: shipping on those CDs take 6-8 weeks07:40
needhelpwebmaren: yes, /dev/sda7 I think07:40
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webmarensaif: you have any friends that can burn it for you07:41
MaheanuuSaif, where are you located, and what flavor are you looking for?07:41
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webmarenneedhelp: then you should boot on that partition and use one of the tools blissex suggested to partition your disk07:41
needhelpwebmaren: dont think its booting from /dev/hda07:41
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saifOr I should by a new cd writer and download the iso image and burn the image on cd , then install from it07:42
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webmarenneedhelp: okay then, as long as it's not, then you should be good07:42
saifIndia07:42
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webmarensaif: depends on whether you want to wait for the CDs or spend money on a burner07:42
un_operateuror do it without the CDs altogether07:43
saifhow can i do it07:43
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un_operateursaif, you could do a netboot with a floppy07:43
SilentDishappy Chrismahanukwanzakah everyone :)07:44
orangeflywhat would be the best way to backup work files to my home server....???....07:44
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saifUpgrading from one version to another version has become a nightmare for me07:44
un_operateurorangefly, how many MiB a day?07:44
lupine_85orangefly: rsync :)07:44
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lupine_85rdiff is also good for large stuff07:45
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orangeflynot sure....multiple users, so estimate high to be safe....07:45
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orangeflyi basicly want to do offsite storage for my work....07:46
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lupine_85rdiff lets you do incremental backups, which is cool07:47
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un_operateurorangefly, you could implement a full backup server with bacula or amanda so to make it more manageable07:47
SilentDisorangefly, just an aside here... is this a corporation you're working for, or a self-propriatorship?07:47
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orangeflynon-profit charity....07:47
godtviskenAnyone know about MiniDV cameras + Linux? Specifically the Canon Elura 100. I got one for Yuletide but I don't want to use it unless I know it will work in Linux07:48
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MaheanuuI am having probs with trying to get Raid5 set up on Dapper, The bios shows all 5 discs set up as raid, but Dapper is showing them as individual drives and not an array????07:48
sinisterguyhow do you set the console colours for the virtual consoles07:48
orangeflyi wouls love something web based for those people not very pc inclined....07:48
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SilentDisorangefly, hmm...  you still might wanna bug management about the legality of it.  it's for a good cause, but some people are REALLY sue happy in the western world now :P07:48
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orangeflysue for offsite backup....???....07:49
SilentDisorangefly, I'd almost say a cron job would better suit a large off-site backup chore.07:49
SilentDisorangefly, stupid, i know... but i've seen some VERY stupid lawsuits...07:49
un_operateurorangefly, wouldnt it be better to just have a client service backup each user's /home directory to the server rather than get the users to do it -- you know what user's are like, procrastination usually gets the better of them07:49
lupine_85orangefly: if the backup doesn't work, maybe?07:50
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orangeflyi have client server....just thought it may be a good idea to have some sort of offsite....07:50
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un_operateurorangefly, yea, i know what you mean -- in this case just have the backup server offsite07:51
SilentDisorangefly, or, if the backup does work, and they had personal data on the machine they didn't want 'shared'.  it's a slippery slope.  as i said, you just wanna be safe for your own good, and run it by management.07:51
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orangeflyi have no idea how to connect to an offsite server....i'm kind of new to linux....vpn or something similar....???....07:52
un_operateurorangefly, or if the organisation can afford it, you can have 2 backup servers, one onsite, another off -- the onsite one will suit for better/faster backups while the offsite guarantees redundancy07:52
svuhow would I disable ipv6 in ubuntu? I tried setting up the alias (as in FAQs) - but still interfaces get ipv6 address and ipv6 module is loaded07:53
orangeflythat's what i'm looking for....07:53
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SilentDisorangefly, you could do it via a vpn, an ssh, ssl... all depends on how you're transfering the data, how much data, etc.07:53
nolimitsoyaorangefly, rsync is good for offsite backups07:53
nolimitsoyaah, protcolls..07:53
Przemcio78hil, i'm going to install ubuntu (my first linux), is ubuntu very complicated?07:53
un_operateurorangefly, well, you can use either normal connectivity or a VPN if you seek security, it's all down to how much mileage you have07:54
idlemindprzemcio78: no not at all07:54
ironfroggywhere does a driver like usbstorage come from, package-wise?07:54
nolimitsoyaPrzemcio78, depends you your frame of reference :)07:54
webmarenprxemcio78: edgy install asks you five questions07:54
gr3mlsvu:  why?07:54
SilentDisPrzemcio78, ubuntu, in my opinion, is just about the EASIEST linux distro out there.  especially with a community like this.  VERY helpful to new users :)07:54
orangeflyi'll check out rsync....does ssh work in a way other than terminal....most of these pople wouldn't have a prayer....07:54
idlemindironfroggy: typically directly in the kernel07:54
webmarenprxemcio78: then you install07:54
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lupine_85orangefly: you set it up to go automagically every day or so07:54
Przemcio78what questions?????07:55
nolimitsoyaPrzemcio78, id say ubuntu is easier to learn than windows, but since most people already know their way around windows, many have a hard time relearning :)07:55
un_operateurorangefly, you can use non-interactive SSH in scripts and so07:55
idlemindironfroggy: i'm unfamiliar w/the ubuntu kernel format (only been on ubuntu 8 days) but you could check the kernel config to be sure07:55
ironfroggyidlemind: they are not compiled as modules?07:55
svugr3ml, because mplayer gives funny ipv6 errors when I am trying to input rtsp stream07:55
ironfroggywhere i see a copy of the kernel config then?07:55
lupine_85you could even write a pretty "backup NOW!" frontend for it in HTML+CSS if you liked07:55
dcordesis there any way to ssh to a box without having any port forwarded? im looking for some kind of workaround07:55
IdleOnePrzemcio78, ubuntu can be complicated but for normal use you will find it to be alot easier then most linux distro's07:55
orangeflyok....i'll continue reading....07:55
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orangeflyty....07:55
webmarenprxemcio78: it's gotten a lot simpler in recent years07:55
bulmerwhat would be equivalent of fish:// in konqueror in nautilus?07:56
ironfroggyis there a way to query if a driver exists, module or builtin?07:56
Przemcio78is there ms office for ubuntu?07:56
LinTuxI am trying to install a Belkin F5d700 card and I am getting this error - ERROR: Module bcm43xx does not exist in /proc/modules, what is the cure?07:56
lupine_85bulmer: there isn't one07:56
orangeflyi only started using linux a few moths ago....i already have a file, print, email, and web server....linux is quite interesting....07:56
bulmerironfroggy: if you know the name, do an lsmod07:56
lupine_85use sshfs instead07:56
nolimitsoyaorangefly, my favourite is anacron and rsync in sweet junction. use any type of encrypted transer and you are set. :)07:56
ironfroggybulmer: i tought that only listed modules07:56
un_operateurPrzemcio78, there's no M$ office for ubuntu--- but you can run M$ office withing crossover office on ubuntu07:56
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IdleOnePrzemcio78,  there is Open Office check out openoffice.org07:56
orangeflycool....ty....07:57
ironfroggybut i do not see usbstorage in there. shouldnt it be?07:57
webmarenprzemcio78: openoffice.org is very similar to ms office07:57
lupine_85ironfroggy: /boot/config.gz or /proc/config.gz07:57
SilentDisPrzemcio78, openoffice.org is a full office suite, completely MS Office compatible07:57
lupine_85(or called something like that)07:57
webmarenprzemcio78: it comes preinstalled07:57
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lupine_85SilentDis: not completely07:57
Przemcio78i know openoffice but sadly ms office is 100 times better :(07:57
lupine_85not even close, in fact07:57
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LinTuxI am trying to install a Belkin F5d700 card and I am getting this error - ERROR: Module bcm43xx does not exist in /proc/modules, what is the cure?07:57
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spasticteapotI'll admit that MS office is better than OpenOffice.07:57
nolimitsoyaPrzemcio78, then you might try koffice and abiword07:57
SilentDislupine_85, for the majority of people, it is.  how many 'normal users' use activex in their spreadsheets?  lol07:57
webmarenprzemcio78: how can ms office be 100x better07:57
lupine_85LinTux: modprobe bcm43xx07:57
spasticteapotHowever, there is no way in heck I'm spending $500 every three years!07:58
webmarenspasticteapot: maybe only in templates07:58
lupine_85SilentDis: go on then, import a trendline from OpenOffice Calc to MS Excel07:58
nolimitsoyaPrzemcio78, start by downloading the desktop cd, and boot it. then you can see for your self07:58
spasticteapotMS office has some advanced editing features that are very, very useful.07:58
lupine_85it doesn't happen07:58
idlemindprzemcio78: i think they only beat openoffice w/access all the other programs i find easier than MS office (i use ms office at work all day and use openoffice at night)07:58
lupine_85almost /everyone/ uses trendline07:58
SilentDislupine_85, ok, you have a point.  lol07:58
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ironfroggy`gzip -c /boot/config-***` seems to be a binary07:58
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sinisterguyhow can i change the colors of the tty terminals?07:58
un_operateurmaybe it is gzip -d ??07:58
spasticteapotThey've actually got a specialized system for showing what's been added, what's been removed, and what's been edited.07:58
lupine_85SilentDis: and for scientific use (I'm a biology undergraduate), it's worse than useless :(07:58
bulmerironfroggy: maybe use zcat07:58
spasticteapotVery useful for writing grants.07:59
naelphinhow can i enable dri? i have an old rage pro card and direct rendering is disabled :/07:59
spasticteapotThat said, OpenOffice is great for writing papers.07:59
lupine_85not when the differing fonts in MS and OO break your attractive presentation :p07:59
nolimitsoyaSilentDis, lupine_85, Przemcio78 gnumeric has pretty good support for excell spreads07:59
nolimitsoyalupine_85, msttcorefonts package solves that :)07:59
ironfroggysays "not in gzip format"07:59
lupine_85nolimitsoya: no support for anything approaching decent Y error bars07:59
spasticteapotnaelphin: I'd like to know that myself.07:59
webmarenlupine_85: I had that problem once07:59
SilentDislupine_85, ahhh.  i, personally, have never needed more than what oo provides.  it's hard to determine other people's needs when it comes to office tools like that for me.07:59
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webmarenlupine_85: powerpoint killed my WWI presentation08:00
naelphini can see it redrawing when i minimize, showing i have no 2d accel08:00
naelphinvery annoying08:00
lupine_85ah, not gz'd08:00
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spasticteapotI have a Rage128.08:00
lupine_85cat /boot/config-2.6.17-10-generic works here08:00
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spasticteapotIt's steve "balless" ballmer I'd rather strangle.08:00
spasticteapotHe's a gormless twit.08:00
lupine_85webmaren: I'll agree that OO is better *software* than MS Office. It just doesn't have the features that most people need08:00
spasticteapotBill gates innovated. Sure, some of his innovations were half-assed, but he was a clever guy.08:01
lupine_85if it's not missing a feature you need, it's wonderful.08:01
spasticteapotSteve Ballmer is just trying to cover his ass.08:01
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juanospasticteapot: right08:01
webmarenlupine_85: like transparency in presentations 9_908:01
bmk789Microsoft has never innovated08:01
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nolimitsoyaspasticteapot, he stole most of it from mac...08:01
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spasticteapotI was referring to DOS, actually.08:01
spasticteapotAnd basic.08:01
nolimitsoyaspasticteapot, in what way was that an inovation?08:01
juanonolimitsoya: he owns bout 40% of Mac08:02
MaheanuuI have hated MS ever since they started their strangulation of the indies about 11 years ago...  I am happy everytime MS gets fined for some past misdead08:02
webmarenspasticteapot: microsoft has had one original product08:02
eegorebash: ./setup.sh: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied anyone got a clue on this, this is what I get when I try to start the quake 3 arena install script08:02
un_operateurthe only grouch i have against OO is speed - apart from that, it supports pretty much everything I need08:02
IdleOneDOS was not stolen it was bought08:02
nolimitsoyajuano, im talking about bill08:02
spasticteapotWell, yes.08:02
spasticteapotStill, he managed to do a good deal of things.08:02
webmarenspasticteapot: and it was a port, at that08:02
juanonolimitsoya: me too08:02
LinTuxlupine_85: when I do that I get this - FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid argument08:02
spasticteapotBesides, MS flight simulator rocked.08:02
SilentDisbmk789, yes they have.  they innovated in the MARKETING arena.  they're the absolute best at that... and not much else.  ;)08:02
spasticteapotThey made the home PC work.08:02
lupine_85LinTux: you can't load ndiswrapper and bcm43xx at the same time08:02
spasticteapotUnix made it work much better.08:02
ironfroggyi have CONFIG_USB_STORAGE=m08:03
lupine_85spasticteapot: no, they didn't. IBM made the home PC work08:03
nolimitsoyaspasticteapot, imho, dos is a crappy halfassed clone of unix08:03
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lupine_85OS/2 ftw! :p08:03
bmk789their marketing even sucks, its their liscensing that gets them money08:03
ironfroggyso i should have a module usbstorage, right? because modprobe cant find it08:03
LinTuxthat is what the forum info is telling me to input08:03
webmarenspasticteapot: unix was around years before windoze, fool08:03
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Przemcio78i've heard gentoo is better than ubuntu, in what way is it better?08:03
juanoi think bill is clever cause he made an OS that users could use easy, you dont need to know much to use windows, thats why it sells so good08:03
webmarennolimitsoya: so true08:03
nolimitsoyaPrzemcio78, ask the person who made the claim08:03
lupine_85Przemcio78: the package manager is incredibly simple and cool08:03
IdleOnePrzemcio78, try them both and decide for yourself08:03
lupine_85HOWEVER, you have to compile almost everything from source08:04
lupine_85so... yeah :D08:04
dv_juano, actually windows isnt that easy08:04
SilentDislupine_85, hmm... you know, i've never played with os2.  time to go find an illegal copy somewhere and see if i can get it working in emulation lol08:04
gr3mlPrzemcio78:  having used both, i prefer ubuntu08:04
spasticteapotI want to try IRIX.08:04
lupine_85SilentDis: no... no, it isn't08:04
kitcheSilentDis: you might find old Open Source Versions of it08:04
Przemcio78is gentoo a rolling release?08:04
nolimitsoyalupine_85, apt is well on par with portage :)08:04
lupine_85nolimitsoya: no it isn't08:04
dv_juano, but there are lots of literature for it, and kids-next-door who can handle it, and it comes preinstalled on PCs - THIS is the clever idea of bill08:04
webmarenprzemcio: you could roll a gentoo release08:04
MaheanuuI never ran X86 architecture until after the Englishman Sinclair got bought out and his Sinclairs became unsupported..  I found the Sinclair boxes to be better than IBM in those days08:04
nolimitsoyalupine_85, what are you missing then?08:04
juanodv_ its easier than linux for sure, i use linux since some good time ago, but you cant say that linux is easier OS than windows08:04
kitchePrzemcio78: umm no gentoo is all source based you just update portage when a new ebuild  comes out then you have to recompile08:04
nolimitsoyajuano, i can08:05
LinTuxthat is what the forum info is telling me to input08:05
webmarenprezmcio78: it's on a cd08:05
dv_installing windows isnt trivial, most people stick with the preinstalled versions08:05
ironfroggyafter i `modprobe usb-storage` what do i need to do so the driver creates a device?08:05
LinTuxthat is what the forum info is telling me to input08:05
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webmarenhehe I made a pun08:05
dv_juano, so, ubuntu would take off once someone preinstalls it on PCs08:05
nolimitsoyajuano, try sticking an ubuntu disk in the hand of a complete computer illiterate and have them get a working, usefull system from scratch. now try the same with windows08:05
ecastrois there any metapackage that brings back all the default packages installed with ubuntu?! I mean, something like apt-get install ubuntu to get all the default packages installed08:06
juanonolimitsoya: well you may be right on that one, i got ubuntu 6.10 here now and its good08:06
lupine_85nolimitsoya: I'm missing PyKDE 3.16 :p08:06
spasticteapotI'm personally a fan of Mepis - it's even easier.08:06
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kitcheironfroggy: plug in the device08:06
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juanonolimitsoya:  EXCEPT what about listening to an MP3? or watching a video?08:06
dv_juano, so this is the holy grail: ubuntu 6.10 preinstalled on retail PCs08:06
ironfroggykitche: i did..08:06
warriorhey08:06
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nolimitsoyajuano, do the test some time. its quite fun, and very efficient att erasing the 'linux is hard' myth08:06
dv_suse will be there sooner however.08:06
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SilentDisecastro, ubuntu-desktop, i believe, is the package you want08:07
juanonolimitsoya: i gotta try it yeah xD08:07
webmarenhttp://www.rinkworks.com/stupid/cs_os.shtml08:07
nolimitsoyajuano, then use mepis, or any other distro that isnt restricted tofloss08:07
dcordesis there any way to ssh to a box without having any port forwarded? im looking for some kind of workaround08:07
webmarenthose are computer idiots08:07
ecastroSilentDis: let me try it...08:07
warriori have a problem08:07
nolimitsoyajuano, then the 'restrited software doesnt work out of the box' argument goes away too :)08:07
un_operateurjuano, with windows its -- how do i edit a spreadsheet  or how do i create a database? :)08:07
mojojojo__hi! are there solutions available for ubuntu which wouild accelerate my kernel? At the moment running xmms for example takes ~ 20% of CPU time which is too bloody much08:07
lupine_85mojojojo__: buy a faster CPU? :p08:07
mynameisdeletedI have a dual 2.8GHZ 64-bit server with a gigabit internet connection........ could such a thing significantly speed up everyones apt-get runs?08:08
webmarenmojojojo__: how fast (slow) is your processor08:08
juanonolimitsoya:  the thing is that users dont get it when it comes to "i cant listen to an mp3 on linux" or "i cant watch a video on linux" and its true at first cause you dont get **it when its just installed08:08
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un_operateurmojojojo__, pay a linux geek to build an optmized kernel08:08
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warrior##HALFWAY08:08
ubuntuhello08:08
dv_juano, thats a licensing problem08:08
mojojojo__webmaren, it's Athlon 1800+, it should run withouth any problems08:08
lupine_85the thing that'd make the most difference is pre-emption, and that's already in08:08
nolimitsoyajuano, as i said, that not true unless you use a distro dedicated to floss, as is ubuntu08:08
dv_this is why suse has mp3 etc. but ubuntu doesnt08:08
mojojojo__un_operateur,  definetely not funny :)08:09
ecastroSilentDis: yep, it seems you were right! thanks pal! merry xmas for you and everybody else here in this room. And lets try to remember all of us a little what are we really celebrating theese days!08:09
lupine_85SuSE paid for the licenses?!08:09
dv_yes08:09
lupine_85oh dear08:09
nolimitsoyajuano, try mepis or any other that doesnt enforce that restriction, and that argument is out the window08:09
SilentDisecastro, happy Chrismahanukwanzakah to you as well! :D08:09
juanonolimitsoya: i got Ubuntu 6.10 and when i installed it mp3 support was NOT enabled08:09
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lupine_85juano: too right08:09
nolimitsoyajuano, are you even reading anything im typing? :?08:09
spasticteapotI don't even bother with Mp3s.08:09
un_operateurmojojojo__, xmms hardly ever takes 20% CPU time unless you are running a 66mhz cpu :)08:09
dv_which is a good thing, suse is one of the most popular distros, so its good to have mp3 support08:09
ironfroggyso where do i look if the usb-storage driver isnt creating a device?08:09
spasticteapotFLAC for  the win!08:09
juanonolimitsoya: yes i am, but its the concept that im talking about, a guy goes to a computer and wants to listen to music, not to a boring license agreement08:10
lupine_85dv_: no, it's a bad thing, but I don't expect you to understand why08:10
dv_lupine_85, haha08:10
dv_lupine_85, there is the world of idealists and the world of everyone else08:10
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lupine_85eh, sorry, you're not juano :)08:10
dv_oh sorry08:10
lupine_85s/random insult//08:10
lupine_85:)08:10
dcordeswhere can i get cain?08:10
juanolupine_85: what?08:10
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nolimitsoyajuano, ffs please, give me a break. ive said numerous times now that if you use a disto such as ubuntu that is bound to floss, you wont get proprietary software out of the box. use mepis or some other distro that allows nonfree content and that problem is gone08:11
SilentDisomg... /. article on some guy who built a winged jetpack that travels at over 100mph and he flies it around mountains and such rofl08:11
mojojojo__un_operateur, I am aware of that :), that's why I consider it a problem :)... It's not only xmms, but the whole system, I think... but anyway... Ubuntu doesn't seem as easy and user-friendly for me as it appeared at the beginning08:11
un_operateurjuano, ubuntu does not want to be tied to any licensing issues when using proprietary formats -- if a user wants to use them, it takes a couple of minutes to install packages to support them -- just as it takes a couple of minutes to get a user running M$ office on a windows machine if they want office functionality08:11
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lupine_85juano: software patents are, essentially, extortion08:11
dv_anyway, if joe sixpack wants to hear his mp3s, and "that linux thing" doesnt play them, then linux is shitty software in his opinion, and he will tell everyone how shitty linux is and recommends windows08:11
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nolimitsoyadv_, you havent been paying attention either, have you? :-?08:12
un_operateurmojojojo__, well, honestly, what do you want?? magic?? :) you were given some options, it's now your call to do what you will08:12
webmarenmojojojo__: that processor is kind of old08:12
dv_but isnt it possible to have a GUI with a "I agree to the license agreements" box?08:12
webmarenmojojojo__: and it's only 1.53GHz08:12
dv_so one has to agree to the mp3 license to install the software?08:12
juanonolimitsoya: i agree with all you guys on certain matters, but i wanna ask the million dollar question, why do users use windows and not have linux at there home?08:12
webmarenmojojojo__: and it only has 256K cache08:12
lupine_85webmaren: my 2500+ is 1.4GHz08:12
lupine_85it plays xmms fine at <<< CPU08:13
webmarenlupine: ...shaddup08:13
nolimitsoyajuano, because theyve already payd for windows the moment they bought their boxes. how is that relevant to our discussion?08:13
dv_I see that ubuntu is floss, but it should be unnecessarily hard to install support for mp3 and mpeg408:13
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lupine_85webmaren: or what? :p08:13
juanonolimitsoya: lol its not cause of that08:13
un_operateurdv_, it would mean that ubuntu might have to pay to use a license to use those non-free formats -- which it clearly does not want -- also it has to do with the fact that there are 100% open alternatives to most multimedia formats which ubuntu (like other distros) is keen to see being used08:13
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webmarenjuano: because they're all locked in, like nolimitsoya said08:13
nolimitsoyajuano, then you need to do some homework :)08:13
mojojojo__webmaren, old or not... but I consider abnormal the fact that my linux runs waaaaay slower that Win XP08:14
pi1li want a process to run for a certain amount of time. how do i do that??08:14
MaheanuuIt's difficult to try to convince anyone that they only get out what they put in, and if they don't want to learn, they will never learn enough to accomplish much in Linux...  Windoze is made for the unwashed masses, those tsto...  You want bland, you got bland....08:14
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dv_un_operateur, now technically you have to install lame yourself because this way ubuntu isnt distributing mp3 software08:14
webmarenjuano: of course it's cause of that, that and the idiot programmers who can't break away from windoze08:14
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dv_un_operateur, but cant this be automated by said click on the "I agree to the agreements" button?08:14
whyameyemojojojo__: what kernel are you running?08:14
un_operateurdv_, exactly, but ubuntu will play .ogg's fine -- do you see what i mean?08:14
webmarenmojojojo__: how old is your ubuntu distro08:14
mojojojo__whyameye, 2.16.15-27-k708:14
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mojojojo__webmaren, Ubuntu 6.06 LTS - Dapper Drake08:15
whyameyemojojojo__: it really sounds like something it wrong. xmms shouldn't be draining your system so hard.08:15
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oenwaytolive17merry christmas :)08:15
un_operateurdv_, that would mean that ubuntu CDs will have to include packages that support mp3s -- but it does not want to be tied in licensing and legal issues, so it just does not do it08:15
SilentDisbbiab08:15
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nolimitsoyadv_, because ubuntu, like ive said to many times by now, is dedicated to floss and therefore not distributing blobs08:15
webmarenmojojojo__: it really shouldn't08:15
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lupine_85nolimitsoya: except graphics card ones :p08:15
dv_un_operateur, no, not on the CDs08:15
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dv_you press the button and it downloads lame08:15
juanowebmaren: nolimitsoya: but i dont think that bringing windows down is such a good idea, cause you cant say that windows is so much worse then linux08:16
nolimitsoyalupine_85, dont get me started on that one.... i just want to scream :P08:16
lupine_85oh, and WLAN ones :p08:16
Dacehi, is there a live-usbstick version of ubuntu?08:16
lupine_85!install08:16
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues08:16
nolimitsoyajuano, yes you can...08:16
lupine_85^ Dace: ^08:16
juanonolimitsoya:  no you cant08:16
webmarenjuano: so we're keeping windoze alive to say LINUX PWNS YOU08:16
un_operateurdv_, its not a matter of user's accepting the "agreements" .. its about canonical itself not wanting to be tied with any "agreements" with vendors of non-free formats08:16
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Dacelupine_85: ok, thanks08:16
nolimitsoyajuano, why not? its totaly insecure, expensive and crappy in all ways08:16
juanowebmaren: LOL08:16
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webmarenjuano: that is exactly what you were saying08:17
oenwaytolive17hey can anyone help me? ever since i installed ubuntu on my thinkpad 770 (yea old but it works) i have been unable to boot a cd from startup, i need to reinstall windows :P any ideas? i checked the bios... cant find anything for boot options for the cd, its a degraded bios for morons...therefor no advanced options. its called "easy setup"08:17
juanonolimitsoya: well what i AGREE veryyyy much xD is that for beeing a paid software IT SUCKS08:17
juanonolimitsoya: when Linux is FREE and it ROCKS08:17
webmarenjuano: almost all paid software sucks08:17
nolimitsoyajuano, so your point was?08:17
bradyoenwaytolive17 look up the manual with google.08:17
webmarenjuano: except for games08:17
juanowebmaren: CEDEGA08:17
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lupine_85it ROCKS!08:17
webmarenjuano: IDGARA08:17
mojojojo__ok, I'll try compiling kernel :/08:18
oenwaytolive17brad, i tried, looked for a while thats why im here; i looked on google08:18
nolimitsoyawebmaren, photoshop is kind of nice, excluding their png support...08:18
oenwaytolive17i am thinking its a prob with ubuntu08:18
scott__anyone to help getting xgl session running? Just got fglrx installed correctly with dual monitors08:18
nolimitsoyajuano, cedega isnt very good at all...08:18
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nolimitsoyaanyway, this is going veeery of topic :)08:18
juanonolimitsoya:  lol why not? i use it and play lots of games08:18
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webmarennolimitsoya: juano: *correction* all paid software that isn't a bajillion bucks is crap08:18
oenwaytolive17so any help would be appreciated :)08:18
whyameyemojojojo__: do you get the same bad results on cpu usage from a live CD with the x386 kernel?08:18
nolimitsoyajuano, google it :)08:18
exs_guys, what's the best way to update firefox to version 2.1 ? Thanks :)08:18
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bradyoenwaytolive17 ibm.com has extensive support for their products. your laptop manual is on ibm.com. go and seek the manual. you'll probably be eaten by a grue.08:18
lupine_85as the NHS will tell you, the most expensive software is worse than the cheapest08:18
lupine_85!info firefox edgy08:19
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lupine_85!info firefox feisty08:19
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oenwaytolive17i think my laptop is way too old to be on this08:19
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Dacelupine_85: that didn't help much though. i need something i can just throw on the usb stick and boot with it08:19
webmarenexs_: you can't get an ubuntu mandate for it08:19
juanonolimitsoya: Cedega is fine, i play C&C old school games, Quake , Warcraft08:19
lupine_85exs_: probably downloading it from mozilla's website08:19
juanonolimitsoya: ive got it working fine08:19
lupine_85Dace: with a bit of work such a thing will be your08:19
lupine_85...s08:19
webmarenexs_: so you could get it off mozilla, or sompile it08:19
dv__ogg is superior to mp3 and I prefer it when I can,08:19
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dv__thing is, often I cant08:19
nolimitsoyajuano, that doesnt constitute good software08:19
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dv__mp3 is THE de-facto standard.08:19
mojojojo__whyameye,  I don't have Live CD, unfortunately.. But maybe should I download x386 kernel, and try with it?08:19
exs_lupine_85:  ok I see the download on their site, but how would I install what I download?.. it's not a .deb I don't think :)08:20
dv__and ubuntu is in no position to dictate standards08:20
juanonolimitsoya: umm.. i suppose the purpose of CEDEGA is to make windows games work fine?08:20
Dacelupine_85: yeah, i'd just prefer it without the work. there must be some linux distribution that is ready for usb stick ;)08:20
lupine_85exs_: just unpack it to your HOME directory somewhere and run it08:20
un_operateurdv_, but is it a non-free de-facto standard, is that hard to see?? :)08:20
webmarendv__: OGG PWNS MP308:20
juanonolimitsoya: or am i wrong08:20
dv__so many people installing ubuntu will install lame08:20
nolimitsoyadv_thats why we have fsf, and the community to educate people08:20
dv__because they have bazillion mp3s and 0 oggs08:20
lupine_85ogg is the De Facto Free standard :p08:20
Slartwhen copying/moving files between local harddrives gnome almost hangs.. or at least stops responding for  several minutes.. is this normal? can I tweak something?08:20
bradydv_ ubuntu doesn't make the standard. ubuntu doesnt use mp3 by default on principle.08:20
webmarendv__: or they could rip the mp3 to ogg08:20
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webmarenwebmaren: that is possible, I do it08:21
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nolimitsoyajuano, im not going to argue this. read up on cedega and you will find loads of reasons to dislike the project08:21
bradydv_ just like you can use another distro on principle.08:21
dv__look, ESR said a very wise thing: "We can't set the standards until after we take over the world.08:21
dv__"08:21
juanonolimitsoya: well i can find reasons to dislike everything in google08:21
juanonolimitsoya: so whats your point?08:21
dv__ogg owns mp3, yes, *technically*.08:21
nolimitsoyajuano, good. then youll find why cedega isnt a nie project, nor a good one :)08:21
juanonolimitsoya: hihihi08:22
webmarendv__: people choose mp3 because Open Source scares businesspeople08:22
[BTF] Chm0dis there a 686 kernel for edgy?08:22
juanonolimitsoya: ;)08:22
dv__people choose mp3 because they only know mp308:22
lupine_85[BTF] Chm0d: -generic08:22
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webmaren!i686 edgy08:22
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juanonolimitsoya: by the way merry x-mas08:22
dv__mp3 players play mp3, rippers rip to mp3, their friends have mp3s, etc.08:22
lupine_85people don't "choose" mp3, it's what everything's in when they illegally download it08:22
[BTF] Chm0dthe generic version supports multicore?08:22
webmaren!edgy AMD6408:22
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bradywebmaren people choose mp3 b/c it had an integer decoder first and it is the lingua franca de musica08:22
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lupine_85[BTF] Chm0d: yes08:22
nolimitsoyadv__, i just converted all my old wma files to ogg, so why cant you? youve already made the leap to linux from windows, for the exact same reason no doubt. then tell your friends to do the same, and explain why08:23
[BTF] Chm0doh wasn't aware of that thx08:23
lupine_85np :)08:23
juanonolimitsoya: ogg is pretty good08:23
nolimitsoyadv__, think about it, you only need to turn one person to turn the world, given that he does the same in return08:23
dv__nolimitsoya, tell this to an author who just wants the computer for work,08:23
dv__and has an ipod08:23
lupine_85if nobody makes a stand and uses ogg, ogg doesn't get used08:23
linux_kidHELP! My "F" and "b" uttons won't work in uuntu, ut they do work in windozes (sorry, when i type, no b's or F's will come up (i have to copy and paste rom elseware)08:23
dv__ogg is *VERY* unattractive there.08:23
lupine_85ipods are evil, also :p08:23
nolimitsoyadv__, why dont you do it, and do the world a favour?08:23
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lupine_85get an iRiver - which does support ogg08:23
dv__your points keep you in a niche of 1% of all people08:24
spasticteapotiRiver players FVCKING RULE!08:24
webmarenlupine_85: gotta go with you there08:24
spasticteapotI lost mine recently - I hope it turns up again.08:24
juanonolimitsoya: ive got a question, do you know where to find software on linux for a motorola rokr E1? cause ive tried amarok, gtkpod and everything there and it wont work08:24
dv__yes, iriver support them and they are good. most mp3 players dont support ogg, unfortunately.08:24
lupine_85dv__: it's a niche that's quite nice. Full of /educated/ and /intelligent/ people08:24
nolimitsoyajuano, no, i dont08:24
lupine_85and the niche is growing08:24
juanonolimitsoya: i even tried using itunes with wine and no lucj08:24
dv__lupine_85, as I said, 1%.08:24
juanoluck08:24
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lupine_85dv__: size isn't everything08:24
nolimitsoyadv__, did you read what i just said?08:24
spasticteapotAudio input at good quality, easy to use, and nearly indestructible - iriver players are hard to beat.08:24
dv__but 99% of all consumers use mp308:24
lupine_85so what?08:24
nolimitsoya>_<08:24
lupine_85who cares about the consumer?08:25
spasticteapot99% of consumers use Windows or Mac.08:25
nolimitsoyaim banging my head agains a wall of dumbness here...08:25
dv__and they have the money, they set the standard.08:25
mojojojo__ok, I tested mp3 on mpg123 and the usage is similar... so it's either sound card driver or kernel08:25
Slartlinux_kid: capital F and small b are the only ones not working?08:25
webmarendv__: 500years ago, 99% of all europeans believed the earth was flat08:25
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Slartlinux_kid: you can write a small f ?08:25
lupine_85mojojojo__: I'd go for a silly ALSA driver08:25
dv__most of them use windows and mp3s, this will only change once someone sells preinstalled linux, as mentioned before08:25
webmarennolimitsoya: I feel for ya08:25
linux_kidSlart: no, the actual ottuns wont work.  i have to copy and paste the charactors08:25
lupine_85dv__: people already dop08:25
lupine_85Wal-Mart tried it; it failed08:25
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nolimitsoyaquoting myself here: dv__, think about it, you only need to turn one person to turn the world, given that he does the same in return08:25
dv__and mp3->ogg will only happen once the ipod supports ogg, as well as many other players and rippers08:25
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dv__nolimitsoya, nice romantic view. most people wont do it.08:26
lupine_85dv__: many other players do support ogg. iPod doesn't, but ogg flourishes anyway. Where it /matters/08:26
Slartlinux_kid: and the keyboard is ok? can you use those keys in... for example BIOS settings..  (if there is a place to enter general text)08:26
gharzguys, i'm planning to share my internet connection to a home pc using xp... how can i share this? is this possible? my ubuntu has the internet connection... xp will connect to my linux.08:26
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nolimitsoyadv__, then why dont you turn two, istead?08:26
webmarennolimitsoya: but there are more stupid people then smart ones08:26
lupine_85gharz: it can be done in several ways08:26
drivera90Let's say I take an iPod and put some iPod-geared distro of Linux in it. Will it play ogg and all the cool kid formats?08:26
dv__lupine_85, it still is a fact that mp3 dominates - except in niches08:26
un_operateurdv_, I think you just havent begun to see the whole philosophy of open-source yet?? There's plenty of good software out there that does just what you want, it's free, exclusive of licensing and legal issues and is well supported, why go against all these marvels and use something non-free and tied to intellectual property legalities??08:26
juanoanyone know where i can find motorola rokr support for linux???08:26
linux_kidSlart: ill check and e ack in a ew..08:26
dv__(for example, game developers love ogg)08:26
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lupine_85dv__: you're standing in a niche. What's your point?08:27
drach!masquarade08:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about masquarade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:27
drivera90!masquerade08:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about masquerade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:27
bradyif the forum would quit dv_ he would go away.08:27
lupine_85why should we compromise ourselves to appeal to a huge number of people we don't know, and frankly don't care about?08:27
lupine_85!nat08:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:27
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lupine_85!firestarter08:27
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).08:27
dv__lupine_85, the point is that adding some automatization for mp3 codec install08:27
drach!masquerade08:27
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about masquerade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:27
dv__making it a little easier for the average user08:27
lupine_85dv__: like what amarok has, you mean?08:27
nolimitsoyadv__, im trying to get through here, ogg is obviously better than mp3, so it isnt hard to convince your buddys to use it. just let them compare for them selves. then thell buy whatever lets them play their new improved files, or convert when they use their ipod. people arent dumb08:27
lupine_85it's something that should be app-level, not OS-level08:27
Slartgharz: it's possible in most linux distributions.. you just need iptables.. some things to search for.. ip masquerade gateway08:27
webmarendv__: but it is more important to keep with principle08:27
un_operateurdv_, getting ubuntu to support mp3s by default is lalmost like saying ubuntu ought to support M$ office's .XLS and .DOC files by default, just why the should they?08:28
dv__nolimitsoya, then they cant play it on their ipods08:28
dv__shall they all buy irivers now?08:28
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webmarendv__: if people can't live with the principle, they shouldn't live with the system08:28
nolimitsoyadv__, your quest is dead in teh water. this distro has principles about proprietary software08:28
lupine_85Slart: , gharz: it can also be done using static routes... which is the better way IMO, but needs a compatible BB router08:28
dv__ok, but you pay.08:28
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Slartgharz: I do the same thing for my home network.. although with a debian box.. but I think it'll look the same in ubuntu08:28
webmarendv__: rather, we don't08:28
lupine_85dv__: no, but they can transcode to mp3 and buy an iRiver *next time*08:28
jackedHi folks. I tried running "scibuntu 0.4" under edgy but it returned errors.  Can anyone help?08:28
[slam] http://dimaka.homelinux.org08:28
nolimitsoyadv__, you didnt read a thing did you... you are conseddred a troll, and put on ignore...08:28
gharzSlart & lupine_85 , can i use it using a cable connected directly?08:28
[slam] http://dimaka.homelinux.org08:28
Slartlupine_85: oh? this was new.. what is a static route?08:28
lupine_85gharz: yeah, that's no problem08:29
dv__sigh...08:29
lupine_85Slart: basically, the linux PC acts as a router08:29
gharzok... thanks i'll try that.08:29
dv__there is a reason why microsoft beat the unix guys on desktop dominance ....08:29
Slartgharz: you have to have one computer connected to internet... the rest connect through that computer. (using my way... I don't know about lupines way)08:29
nolimitsoyadv__, read up on the unix wars08:29
lupine_85so you put the win PC on a separate subnet and make the linux PC route between it and the router; the router needs a static route to know to send stuff for the win PC to the linux PC08:29
jackeddv__: you need help.08:29
nolimitsoyadv__, thats the road windows is taking now...08:29
webmarendv__: do you have proof that bill gates sold his soul to the devil08:29
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un_operateurdv_ is starting to resemble a troll now -- i think he needs to be put out of his misery08:29
jackeddv__: professional help.08:30
nolimitsoyahow does ignore work in lostirc?08:30
Slartlupine_85: eh.. just a stright pass through thingy?08:30
dv__you just said it: unix wars. constant bickering among themselves. ms had carte blanche08:30
lupine_85Slart: yeah, pretty much08:30
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lupine_85a lot depends on the router, though08:30
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Slartlupine_85: is that faster? any other advantages.. compared to ip masquerading08:30
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lupine_85it helps if you've got a /29 and a /30 of publically addressable IPs08:30
lupine_85or two /30s08:30
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lupine_85Slart: no nat is good08:31
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lupine_85especially for VoIP, messeging, etc, etc#08:31
nolimitsoyadv__, the unix wars where about vendor lockin. you need to read up. do us a favour, eh?08:31
lupine_85probably < 0.1ms faster than NAT08:31
Slartlupine_85: ah.. you'll need more than one public ip.. if only more could be so lucky =)08:31
dv__nolimitsoya, not only about vendor lock-in08:31
lupine_85Slart: no, you can do it with 1 public IP - but the router needs to be able to NAT the window PC as well08:31
lupine_85some support it, some don't08:32
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Slartgharz: did you find anything using google? there's bound to be lots of tutorials for this.. it's a very common setup08:32
bradyi thought the unix wars were over the zimmerman telegram?08:32
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dv__anyway, I'm getting tired of this. learn some economy to understand what really keeps desktop linux from getting big.08:32
lupine_85but I'm paying a small fortune each month08:32
Slartlupine_85: yes.. but then we're not talking simple pass through (static route) any more.. are we? =)08:32
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lupine_85omg! sellout!08:32
lupine_85Slart: true. but why double-nat if you can avoid it?08:32
jackedIf nobody is up on the scibuntu script; perhaps somebody can point me toward the best available GNU application for 3D molecule modelling/viewing... Any ideas?08:32
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lupine_85no-nat > single-nat > double-nat08:33
kohr_how do i mount ipod?08:33
nolimitsoya!ipod | kohr_08:33
ubotukohr_: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto08:33
dv__you dont. its evil.08:33
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kohr_hey08:33
kohr_i got it for christmas08:33
lupine_85dv__: that's the spirit!08:33
dv__lupine_85, this was sarcasm08:33
webmarenroflol08:33
nolimitsoyakohr_, we feel for you :(08:33
lupine_85dv08:33
lupine_85so was that08:33
Slartlupine_85: hmm.. I think I'll have to reread some of those tutorials.. it was a couple of years since I set that up... the danger of linux.. it just works.. then you forget what you did to make it work08:33
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jackeddv__: "learn some economy"  <-- buddy, learn some bloody English08:34
bradyOh now I remember, the unix wars were over slavery.08:34
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lupine_85Slart: "if it works, don't break it"08:34
jackeddv__: and get lost08:34
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webmarenipodlinux.com08:34
lupine_85kohr_: if you're not inclined to switch it for an iRiver (which are much cooler), it's perfectly do-able08:34
Slartlupine_85: my stuff seems to break themselfs every now and then.. mostly when I try to do something fancy =)08:34
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n2diySlart: You got that right, it is a good idea to keep a notebook.08:34
bradyAnd it was the imperialists vs the bolsheviks.08:34
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kohr_ah darn08:34
dv__jacked, now this is indimidating.08:35
kohr_i already opened it08:35
Deep__How do i change my dns?08:35
lupine_85kohr_: no problem - it's usable08:35
nolimitsoyakohr_, just follow the link i gave you08:35
lupine_85Deep__: as in...? are you the client or running the server...?08:35
bradyIn the end Palpatine had his way though.08:35
webmarenkohr_: ipodlinux.com08:35
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nolimitsoyawebmaren, what does he need tha for?08:35
Slartn2diy: mm.. after setting up alsa.. and oss emulation and what not.. I now have a text file.. (things not to forget) that I update with all the voodoo I do =)08:35
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nolimitsoyawebmaren, wouldnt the ubuntu guide be enough?08:35
drmabus1hi there, anyone knows how to sync the sticky-notes to another machine?08:35
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lupine_85 /etc/resolv.conf is the file they're specified in though08:35
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webmarennolimitsoya: to make his iPod worth it08:36
n2diySlart: Just as good as a notebook, I do the same thing with passwords, just make sure you back it up, off disk.08:36
Slartdrmabus1: gnome stickys use network? or some other stickies?08:36
Deep__lupine_85, well, an sshserver is only accepting a certain dns08:36
exs_what's the apt-code for removing an application?.. is it apt-remove 'application name' ? thanks08:36
webmarennolimitsoya: joke, nvm08:36
jeff2when I try to burn the edgy eft i386 cd image to a cd-r in k3b, k3b says that I need to enable overburning for the image to fit. why?08:36
Slartn2diy: yes.. I have a hardcopy of mine =)08:36
nolimitsoyawebmaren, ah, nice project :P08:36
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H3g3m0nhttp://rockbox.org is much more usefull than ipodlinux for playing music08:36
jeff2exs_, apt-get remove08:36
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Deep__lupine_85, well, a domain08:37
lupine_85Deep__: connections to, or from, a specific domain?08:37
linux_kidSlart: i've checked in windoze... it worked.  When I login to uuntu, i can type the letters that dont work, ut they don't work once i login08:37
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webmarenh3g3m0n: meh!08:37
H3g3m0nLooks like the ipodlinux page is down too08:38
webmarenlinux_kid, is your 'b' broken?08:38
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webmarenh3g3m0n: ?08:38
lupine_85H3g3m0n: must be the militant branch of the FSF08:38
Deep__lupine_85, it allows my-domain.com, which is pointing to my ipadress, but i guess i have to set my out-dns to that domain too08:38
Slartlinux_kid: hmm.. keys work in windows.. but not in ubuntu... you're not using some kind of weird keyboard layout? dvorak? chinese?08:38
H3g3m0nah you link had .com not .org08:38
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lupine_85aka. the "We'll Free Your Software For You" Foundation08:38
webmarenlinux_kid: did microsoft build you keyboard?08:38
lupine_85Deep__: yes, rdns is good08:38
Slartlinux_kid: oh.. and try pressing all the alt, shift and ctrl keys at least once.. just to make sure they are "reset"08:38
n2diyHey, I'm using Dvorak!08:38
lupine_85or, just set up sshd to work with the IP address rather than the domain name08:39
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Deep__lupine_85, well, how do i change that? :)08:39
webmarenn2diy: nothing wrong, it's just different08:39
lupine_85you'd have to see your ISP in most cases08:39
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linux_kidslart: it works in uuntu login, utnot ater i login08:39
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lupine_85most ISPs won't change it08:39
exs_ok, I've downloaded and got firefox 2.1 to work nicely.. It's on my desktop now (unzipped rar).. and I'd like to replace this one with my current one. What's the best way?08:39
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linux_kidwemaren: no hp made it08:39
n2diywebmaren: Hey, I've been using it 16 years, I'm not changing back now.08:39
webmarenlinux_kid: methinks microsoft sabotaged your keyboard08:40
lupine_85exs_: alias firefox ~/path/to/firefox >?08:40
webmarenn2diy: nobody said it's bad08:40
linux_kidme thinks it too08:40
lupine_85erm, minus the >08:40
webmarenn2diy: just might confuse the poor chap's od08:40
n2diywebmaren: roger that08:40
exs_lupine_85:  what does this mean?..08:40
n2diywebmaren: od?08:40
lupine_85whenever you type "firefox" it'll substitute it for the other command08:40
SilentDisexs_, hmm... until it's ported into the repos, i'd say moving the folder to your home folder, then changing the link on the toolbar would probably be best08:41
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linux_kidSlart: its a asic keyoard, it workd just yesterday...08:41
lupine_85or you could put the path/to/firefox in your $PATH before any other dirs - that'd be tidier08:41
Slartlinux_kid: and all the other keys works alright08:41
webmarenn2diy: os (keys are next to each other)08:41
exs_SilentDis:  is it going to delete my settings?08:41
linux_kidSlart: ya...08:41
lupine_85so export PATH=/path/to/new/firefox/dir:$PATH08:41
oenwaytolive17ok... i think my problem has to do with the bios08:41
kohr_what makes iriver so much better?08:41
jeff2I only have a 650 MB (74 min) CD-Rs, but the edgy eft i386 iso is 698.4 MB. am I out of luck?08:41
oenwaytolive17how can i update my bios with linux?08:41
lupine_85stick it in ~/.xsessionrc08:41
webmarenlinux_kid: usb or ps208:41
n2diywebmaren: not on a Dvorak board! :)08:41
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SilentDisexs_, nope.  actually, do what lupine_85 said, it'll work better :)08:41
lupine_85oenwaytolive17: the same way you would in windows08:41
linux_kidwemaren: its a noteook, uilt in08:42
webmarenn2diy: well I have an MS Standard board08:42
oenwaytolive17if my bios version doesnt allow the cd to boot from start with linux08:42
webmarenlinux_kid: oh08:42
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oenwaytolive17it says that problem was fixed in later versions08:42
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lupine_85i.e. boot in to REAL MODE and do it from there with the application provided by the BIOS vendor08:42
oenwaytolive17is there any way to update my bios from ubuntu08:42
SilentDisjeff2, you can buy 700mb CDs at most computer stores for all of $1USD/each :)08:42
Silver_LiningDCC SEND WTFLOLIDUNTGETDISITISCLON08:42
lupine_85oenwaytolive17: don't try to do it from protected mode unless you're brave08:42
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Slartlinux_kid: I have no idea why your keyboard wont work.. most confusing.. perhaps one of the others here have more ideas08:42
webmarenSilentDiS: or less08:42
n2diywebmaren: All my boxes are set up so I can mouse click on the tool bar, and switch between Qwerty, and Dvorak.08:42
linux_kidI eel like a 7 year old who lost his teeth08:42
Ghetto|SMThat was fun.08:42
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webmarenn2diy: cheers for you08:43
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SilentDisoenwaytolive17, let me poke ubotu on that one...08:43
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kohr_what makes iRiver so much better>08:43
SilentDis!bios08:43
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bios - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:43
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exs_SilentDis:  but lupine said something that I didn't understand. He said "alias, firefox ~path/to/firefox".. but that doesn't make sense to me08:43
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linux_kidSlart: thanx or your help and Merry Christmas08:43
webmarenlinux_kid: there's no shame in crappy hardware08:43
nolimitsoyakohr_, usb mass storage supprt and decent file type support, to begin with08:43
lupine_85exs_: don't do that, do the other08:43
n2diywebmaren: It is a big help, when I have to tweak a box I have out in the wild.08:43
lupine_85kohr_: ogg support :p08:43
nolimitsoyakohr_, also, better sound, battery time and its cheaper08:43
lupine_85also no Digital Restrictions MAnagement08:43
linux_kidwemaren: its not the hardware, the ottuns work when i type my login name08:43
Slartlinux_kid: oh.. you might want to try one of the consoles.. press ctrl+alt+F1 .. then you get a standard login prompt.. login and try the keyboard... ctrl-alt-f7 to get back to gnome/kde08:43
kohr_well, i got a nano08:43
lupine_85oh, and the technical advantages too :p08:44
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SilentDisexs_, oh lol.  he specified the command you'd need to type.08:44
kohr_so it would be 20 bucks more08:44
exs_lupine_85:  I'm like a frekin ball being bounced here! what's the best way to replace the firefox (2.1) (new one) on my desktop (in a folder, unzipped and working fine) with my old firefox, keeping my settings?08:44
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kohr_1 hour improved battery time08:44
Fasga_Is it possible to convert WMA to MP3, to get rid of DRM, without burning the songs to CDs?08:44
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lupine_85[19:41]  <lupine_85> so export PATH=/path/to/new/firefox/dir:$PATH08:44
lupine_85ok?08:44
slainyes08:44
dv__Fasga, via mplayer and win32codecs08:44
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nolimitsoyakohr_, dont feel sad about it, its just apple is a pretty touchy-feely subject in floss communitys :)08:45
dv__mencoder that is08:45
bradyexs_ the best way is to not do anything and wait for ubuntu to update it in apt.08:45
Deep__ha, lupine_85, your helping everyone? :)08:45
SilentDisexs_, from my understanding, firefox, any version, will pull settings from ~/.mozilla instead of it's own stuff.  so there's no settings to worry about :)08:45
exs_brady:  why does it take so long?08:45
slainmplayer and lame08:45
dv__however, if the WMA is encrypted forget it08:45
lupine_85brady: it's not even in feisty...08:45
Przemcio78does linux bite?08:45
Fasga_dv__, I'll try it, thanks.08:45
lupine_85dv__: wma encryption can be broken08:45
compengiwhat problems that people mostly face after upgrading from dapper to edgy?08:45
lupine_85but that's illegal, apparently08:45
Deep__Przemcio78, hah08:45
nolimitsoyaPrzemcio78, yes08:45
dv__lupine_85, are there tools for it?08:45
nolimitsoyalupine_85, how?08:45
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SlartPrzemcio78: always..but sometimes it just nibbles08:45
dv__doing it manually should be time-consuming..08:45
lupine_85compengi: mostly, ubuntu-desktop gets removed halfway through. So just reinstall it after the upgrade08:46
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lupine_85dv__, nolimitsoya: I know it's possible, not how to do it08:46
dv__btw. this is one way ogg can be made more attractive: it just ROCKS for webcast since it sounds very good at low bitrates08:46
dv__vorbis, that is..08:46
nolimitsoyalupine_85, the only tools ive seen depends on you being able to play the file to begin with...08:46
linux_kidSlart: the uttons work when i go to CTRL ALT 108:46
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lupine_85I was trying to find out how to un-DRM WMVs (which can't be done currently) when I came across that nugget08:46
dv__try wma at 64kbit. sounds like a radio in a pipe08:46
linux_kidSlart: ut stop when i exit...08:46
Slartlinux_kid: ah.. then it's  a gnome thing..08:47
compengilupine_85, and what other common serious problems?08:47
lupine_85compengi: that's the only one I know of08:47
linux_kidSlart what should i do08:47
lupine_85and I'd hardly call it common08:47
nolimitsoyacompengi, if youve used automatix some time in the past things might break. bad...08:47
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juanoanyone know a player in linux for motorola rokr E108:47
Slartlinux_kid: I'm looking.. perhaps there are some kind of keyboard-configuration somewhere.. somewhere you can changes keys etc..08:47
Slartlinux_kid: you're using gnome, right?08:47
linux_kidSlart yes08:48
exs_Where is firefox defaulty installed ?08:48
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n2diySlart, system-pref-keyboard08:48
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dv__lupine_85, but a tool for breaking wmV (not wma) encryption would rock! tell me when you see one :)08:48
lupine_85dv__: yeah, not likely to happen soon08:48
dv__yes, until dvd jon is at it08:48
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SilentDislinux_kid, just curious here... have you gone back through a reconfigure of xorg yet?  maybe the wrong keyboard got selected *shrug*08:48
lupine_85since the only people (except me, of course :p ) who want to break wmv encryption are after teh pr0nz, everyone's too embarresed to work on it08:49
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lupine_85erm. fix spelling as appropriate.08:49
CotRo|eR!nvidia08:49
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:49
webmarenlupine_85: lol08:49
dv__lupine_85, exactly08:49
linux_kidSilentDis: it worked yesterday... and im quite sure i havent reinstalled uuntu since then08:49
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Slartn2diy: the keyboard shortcuts wont let me set a shortcut to a simple letter (I get a messagebox that this will make typing impossible =)08:49
webmarenlinux_kid: reconfigure xserver anyways, it might have just gotten an error in the file08:50
ismailhi all08:50
NitroDCC SEND GTFOMYINTERNETSILYAOSTR08:50
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ismaili have a question08:50
linux_kidwemaren: and how do i do that?08:50
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SilentDislinux_kid, that's just weird.08:50
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n2diySlart, not keyboard shortcuts, just keboard, the selection above it.08:50
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dv__lupine_85, sorry for being an ass before, I just lose myself when it comes to this topic08:50
webmarenlinux_kid: reboot into recovery mode08:50
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webmarenand type...08:50
lupine_85dv__: np :)08:50
lupine_85Freedom is a touchy topic08:51
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SilentDislinux_kid, i'd still say a quick sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg might not be a bad idea, just to make sure it didn't get corrupt somehow or some other weirdness.  can't hurt.  *shrug*08:51
ismailhow do i make the middle scroll botton in my mouse work08:51
webmarenlinux-kid: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:51
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Slartn2diy: well.. I can set certain keys there..  if it's only the f and b keys that dont work.. I thought he might have set them as shortcuts accidently08:51
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Slarteh.. I can't set certain keys...08:51
dv__lupine_85, but the hd-dvd/bluray discs might tip things towards open formats08:51
ismailit used to work fine before but when i replaced my motherboard it doesnt work no more08:51
lupine_85dv__: maybe, they're DRM'd to death08:51
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webmarendv__: yeah, cause that has ever happened before08:51
lupine_85I'll give it a couple of months before they're hax0red08:52
n2diySlart, roger that. maybe removing the current keyboard, and re-installing it would work?08:52
SilentDisismail, the button, or the scrolling of the wheel?08:52
lupine_85especially since the PS3 uses blu-ray, and the PS3 runs linux08:52
ismailthe scroll08:52
webmarenVHS was open, and then DVD is a DRM-demon08:52
ismailthe botton works08:52
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webmarenlupine_85: whaddya know?08:52
dv__no wait. DVD won because it is MUCH better than vhs.08:52
Slartlinux_kid... try to set the keyboard layout again.. just to see if it resets something.. system, prefs, keyboard.. just select any layout, apply.. and then select your proper layout after that.. see if it works08:52
webmarenlupine_85: could be something there08:52
lupine_85if gdb runs on ps3, what more do you need? ;p08:52
webmarendv__: and then dvd got taken by the copuright gods08:52
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ismailsilentDis: have any idea?08:53
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Slartn2diy: I have no idea.. I've never have a keyboard that didn't accept certain keys... it's always been all or nothing for me =)08:53
dv__webmaren, once something is popular and a cashcow, this always happens08:53
Slartnever had..08:53
linux_kidSlart: how do i reset the keyoard?08:53
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dv__a bad thing, yes :)08:53
dv__:(08:53
SilentDisismail, i'm working on a couple things... i was curious if the scroll worked, or it was the button itself that was having issue?08:53
NitroDCC SEND GTFOMYINTERNETSILYAOSTR08:53
eztklinux_kid: have you been using xmodmap??08:53
Slartlinux_kid: just select another layout.. french, german, swedish.. something..then apply/ok08:53
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n2diySlart: yes it is an odd problem, and it works on the darkside, so we know it isn't hardware related.08:53
lupine_85 /sigh08:53
richard501help - laptop doesnt see my wireless card08:53
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eztki tried to disable control + backspace by using xmodmap08:54
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linux_kidSlart: like where do i select the keyoard...?08:54
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eztkreally screwed things up08:54
Slartn2diy: hehe.. dark side.. never heard that before. ..08:54
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dv__webmaren, I doubt suse would stay that open if it had 85% marketshare for example. that is, kernel etc. would be GPLed, yes, but the players being realplayer and such08:54
Slartlinux_kid: system menu.. preferences.. keyboard08:54
samhey there i was wondering how can I get my sound to work alsa seems to be configured but yet the sound doesn't work08:54
dv__money corrupts :/08:54
jeeves_Mossall:  Merry Sh*tsmas everyone!08:54
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n2diySlart: you must be a newbie?  :)08:54
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lupine_85dv__: suse are well on their way to not being open08:54
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ismailsikentDis: before when i install ubuntu the middle botton and scroll weel worked off the bat. this time however when i installed ubuntu only the botton worked08:54
SilentDisjeeves_Moss, happy Chrismahanukwanzakah to you!08:54
linux_kidn2diy: im no newee, i just skrewed up my keys... LOL08:55
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samhey there i was wondering how can I get my sound to work alsa seems to be configured but yet the sound doesn't work08:55
lupine_85SilentDis: you missed mithras08:55
dv__lupine_85, they obviously want to become big, and pay the price by including non-free stuff support08:55
jeeves_MossSilentDis:  lol,  nice one!08:55
richard501http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102 doesnt work for me :(08:55
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lupine_85dv5237: yeah :(08:55
Slartn2diy: indeed... my friend once showed his collegues on the bank the DOS window... and from that day on they thought he had magic powers.. becuase he could go "back there".. "into the computer" =)08:55
dv__this CAN be a good thing though08:55
n2diylinux_kid: I wasn't referring to you.08:55
ismail!mouse08:55
webmarensam: what are you trying to play out of08:55
ubotuEnabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto08:55
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lupine_85dv__: no, it can't08:55
dv__it makes linux and its peculiarities more common knowledge08:55
jeeves_MossSilentDis: are you any good with GPSD?  I've been trying in here for 3 days now to get it, Kismet, and GPSDrive to work, and so far, NOTHING!08:55
linux_kidn2diy: sorry ;)08:55
samwebmaren: xmms08:56
dv__so more people know how a linux distro works, and ubuntu suddenly isnt all that alien08:56
n2diylinux_kid: nada.08:56
psybermerry xmass08:56
webmarensam: I mean what hardware08:56
dv__in short: the jump suse -> ubuntu is easier than windows -> ubuntu08:56
SilentDisismail, hmm...  never herd of 'some' of the scrolling working, but not scrolling up.  i'd almost say reconfigure the xserver, just to be SURE it's setup right.08:56
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samwebmaren: hrmm hold on let me get that info08:56
SilentDisjeeves_Moss, no idea hun.  ask the question to the room, though, someone might be able to help :)08:56
webmarensam: just, headset, speakers, etc08:56
richard501is there a GNU for ndiswrapper08:56
Slartwindows -> debian -> ubuntu was. ... ok.. although I nearly threw out the computer through the window after a week with debian =)08:56
ismaili dont know how to do that08:56
ismail:D08:56
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SilentDisismail, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:57
jeeves_MossSilentDis:  ok, thanks. as I said, I'm getting P.O. over this.08:57
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dv__Slart, windows -> debian unstable, when they are switching to a new major KDE version. THIS is insane :)08:57
dv__50% of the package deps broken  :)08:57
psyberquick question  I just installed wine, and from what I understand there is some kind of wine setup I need to run... but I have no idea where it is.  Does anyone have any idea what I am talking about?08:57
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jeeves_Mossall:  anyone here any good with GPSD?  I've got to put up with a 2 hour drive with the family, so I want something to do on the drive.08:57
ismailand then?08:57
Slartdv__: hehe.. I know the pain... but it will all be better.. soon.. just walk into the light =)08:58
samwebmaren: i cant tell from lspci ima paste on pastebin08:58
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SilentDisismail, once you've gone through that, restart gdm (ctrl-alt-backspace) and see if it works08:58
Slartjeeves_Moss: what is GPSD?08:58
dv__Slart, been there. I prefer hell. hotter chicks :P08:58
n2diypsyber: Have you tried running Wine, it may prompt you for the setup info?08:58
psyberyup08:58
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jeeves_MossSlart:  it's the deamon that interfaces your GPS for other programs.08:58
Slartdv__: hehe.08:58
hou5tonjeeves_Moss:   one thought would be to develop a better relationship with your family.  :)08:59
psyberI type wine in the consol and I get error messages08:59
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webmarenSlart: I don't wanna walk into the light08:59
Slartjeeves_Moss: ah.. nice.. I might come ask you about it when I finally get around to buying one =)08:59
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SilentDishou5ton, lmao!  you get the line of the day award lol08:59
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psyberwell not error just an expectation for more paramaters08:59
Slartwebmaren: you heard dv__, hotter chicks the other way =)08:59
webmarenslart: roflol08:59
Slartlinux_kid: did you die on us? keyboard not working at all now?09:00
ismailwhat should i choose for mouseprotocol?09:00
samwebmaren: http://pastebin.com/84479109:00
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Slartismail: I think you can choose auto..09:00
ismailimps/209:00
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psyberany ideas n2?09:00
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linux_kidSlart: i havent died yet, and i dont plan on dying soon, ut i dont have any other lanuages to set it to09:00
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namewhat's the best way of recording TV?09:00
morvokyawn..09:01
n2diypsyber: no, never played with Wine.09:01
whathi09:01
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webmarensam: to be honest, I don't use lspci09:01
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Slartlismail: you doing the dpkg-reconfigure? then pick one and change it using the text editor later =)09:01
SilentDis!who | ismail09:01
ubotuismail: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say, or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)09:01
jeeves_MossHou5ton:  lol, I think hell would freeze over first.  Any luck on getting help to make this work?09:01
webmarensam: open the oss output plugin in xmms09:01
samwebmaren: what do you use?09:01
webmarensam: in the prefs09:01
psyberanyone here familiar with running Wine on Ubuntu?09:01
Slartlinux_kid: hmm.. and I see it didn't get better..09:01
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webmarengo to the oss plugin09:01
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SilentDisismail, i'm sorry, i'm not activly watching the room, i noticed your name scroll by.  if you preface my name on it, my client is setup to beep :)09:01
oenwaytolive17ok dont tell me to google help; i looked through the thinkpad manual thouroughly09:02
oenwaytolive17i dont know how to make my laptop boot a cd at startup09:02
webmarensam: are you playing through a sound card or usb?09:02
linux_kidyeah09:02
Slartlinux_kid: oh.. in that same applet.. what keyboard configuration thingy do you use?09:02
Slartlinux_kid: the place where you chose from pc 105 keys.. IBM keyboard etc etc09:02
yurikwhats the better version of ubuntu kubuntu or edubuntu?09:02
linux_kidSlart Generic 104 PC with US English09:02
grappleoenwaytolive17: change the bios to startup cd before harddrive09:02
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oenwaytolive17it wont work my bios has a thing called "easy setup" pretty much very limited options for people who know crap about computers setup in a crappy gui09:02
n2diyoenwaytolive17: you bios may not support it, my Thinkpad 570 doesn't.09:03
oenwaytolive17grappl, i cant do that thats the problem;09:03
Slartlinux_kid: have you tried changing that?.. perhaps try the 105 key model. .. just to see if anything changes09:03
Tchakahello all :)09:03
oenwaytolive17then n2di, how can i install windows back on09:03
samwebmaren: threw my sound card on my laptop and the oss plugin dont work xmms shows its playing doesn't give any errors but no sound09:03
oenwaytolive17if i cant boot a cd09:03
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psyberdoes anyone in here know anything about running wine on Ubuntu?09:03
n2diyoenwaytolive17: I have no idea, and no interest in it.09:03
webmarensam: open the preferences, and get to the output plugins09:03
Slartlinux_kid: there are lots of keyboards to chose from.. see if anything seems to fit better.. you had a hp keyboard?09:03
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grappleAnyone here know how to configure HLDS (Half-Life Dedicated Server) on Ubuntu Server Edition (Text only)?09:04
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morvokanybody have a better idea of howto shutdown qemu-guests on host shutdown that having a script in inet6 (with a wait() time) that ssh's to them and runs a shutdown -h now?09:04
linux_kidSlart: i have tryed a ew, none seem right.  Its a V5000 series noteook, i that helps...09:04
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oenwaytolive17well i need help09:04
oenwaytolive17please its christmas09:05
Slartlinux_kid: ok.. I'll have a look around.. hold on09:05
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samwebmaren: ok then what?09:05
webmarenoenway to live: i don't think there is anything that can be done09:05
grappleoenwaytolive17: What kind of laptop is it?09:05
oenwaytolive17if anyone can take the time to help me id more then appreciate it09:05
samwebmaren: there is oss/alsa/esound09:05
webmarensam then select oss09:05
oenwaytolive17grapp, its a thinkpad 77009:05
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webmarensamL then hit configure or something like that09:05
CotRo|eRHow do you add resolutions to nvidia ??09:06
samwebmaren: i did but it still doesn't play sound09:06
Slartlinux_kid: is that some kind of laptop-keyboard?09:06
CotRo|eRHow do you add resolutions to nvidia ??09:06
webmarengo into the configuration09:06
linux_kidSlart, ya09:06
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morvokoenwaytolive17: do you have a floppy drive09:06
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oenwaytolive17the thing is, it worked before ubuntu grapple, so im thinking if i totally erase ubuntu off of the drive it will work09:06
lupine_85CotRo|eR: the same you add resolutions for any other card09:06
webmarenand there should be something about audio and mixer devices09:06
lupine_85edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:06
Slartlinux_kid: and there isn't a switch so that those 2 keys mean sometihng else..?? like a num lock09:06
linux_kidSlart, should i count my keys...?09:07
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samwebmaren: i tried the alternate devices still doesn't work09:07
CotRo|eRtnx :)09:07
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Slartlinux_kid: nah.. it wouldn't tell my much anyways =)09:07
linux_kidnum lock is o09:07
morvokoenwaytolive17: thats probably becuase it didn't find a boot area on the disc and moved to the next device (cdrom)09:07
grappleoenwaytolive17: How did you get ubuntu on it in the first place?09:07
webmarensam: tried entering into the field /dev/dsp1 and /dev/mixer1?09:07
grappleoenwaytolive17: Yeah morvok is prolly right.09:07
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linux_kidits not on, i cannot type o09:07
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samwebmaren: hrmm no09:08
webmarentry that09:08
oenwaytolive17grapp; my bro did it for me09:08
babarhu09:08
morvokoenwaytolive17: do you have a floppy drive in the laptop?09:08
babarbuntu09:08
oenwaytolive17from booting a cd at starttup09:08
fo0b4erjuano, any more ideas on the mouse problem?09:08
juanofo0b4er:09:08
oenwaytolive17morvok; its external09:08
juanofo0b4er: yes yes09:08
juanofo0b4er: i found something related09:08
grappleoenwaytolive17: Have you updated the bios?09:08
morvokoenwaytolive17: boot does your Bios look for a boot on it first?09:08
juanofo0b4er: hold on a sec09:08
Shadowpillaranyone here have a sandisk sansa?09:09
fo0b4erok09:09
samwebmaren: ls /dev | grep dsp only shows adsp and dsp09:09
fo0b4eri do shadowpillar09:09
oenwaytolive17thats what i dont get it was able to boot a cd from startup for ubuntu, but afterwards i cant boot a cd anymore09:09
samwebmaren: still try dsp1?09:09
webmarensam: then use /dev/dsp09:09
linux_kidSlart, whould this help... "sudo apt-get remove uuntu-desktop" and then "sudo apt-get install uuntu-desktop"  I have the CD's so i dont have to wait hours rom a repository09:09
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webmarenand /dev/mixer09:09
samwebmaren: i did still dont work09:09
Shadowpillarfo0b4er: how did you get it working?09:09
oenwaytolive17it looks for a boot but skips over my cds09:09
oenwaytolive17every windows cd i have09:09
juanofo0b4er: as root edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:09
oenwaytolive17and they work fine on my other computers09:09
Slartlinux_kid: perhaps.. but I'm starting to think your keyboard is special... and that's why X.org doesn't want to play nice with it09:10
fo0b4erShadowpillar, i didn't in linux, i use it in windows xp09:10
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fo0b4erjuano, ok09:10
juanogo to Section "input device" where it sais Identifier : mouse09:10
grappleoenwaytolive17: So it is checking for a cd on startup before booting off the harddrive?09:10
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oenwaytolive17grapple: yes my cd rom drive flashes but nothing happens09:10
linux_kidSlart: yeah sadly.  Is there anyway to just reinstall the keyoard settings?09:10
ismailok i think i screwd up my config in xorg09:10
juanofo0b4er: and check if it sais protocol "ImPS/2"09:10
oenwaytolive17even in ubuntu when i put in a cd. an icon doesnt come up so i can view the cd09:10
fo0b4erjuano, ok09:10
n2diySlart, roger that. maybe removing the current keyboard, and re-installing it would work?09:11
ismailhow can i revert back to the original settings09:11
oenwaytolive17yet i can view the cd from ubuntu using the command terminal09:11
oenwaytolive17but no cd i use is booting up by itself i have to do it all manually09:11
Slartlinux_kid: I don't think so.. you could always do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver.. but then you loose graphics card settings etc09:11
juanofo0b4er: if not try enabling it and restarting x-server09:11
webmarensam: make sure you have libasound209:11
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Shadowpillarfo0b4er: yeah, I dont have winXP on the side :(09:11
Slartn2diy: sure.. perhaps... but how to remove the keyboard?09:11
Shadowpillarit did mount, then spazzed out09:12
juanoi found out that the protocol imPS/2 is compatible with USB09:12
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grappleoenwaytolive17: What about the ubuntu cd you used to initially used?09:12
linux_kidSlart: how much settings do i loose?09:12
Slartlinux_kid: did you try the hp keyboards in the settings applet? and the compaq ones?09:12
fo0b4erShadowpillar, sorry, I can't really help you09:12
bradyis there a way to uniformly install a language in a system. specifically, i want a dual english/turkish system. i don't really want to install the individual language packs one-by-one.09:12
Slartlinux_kid: graphics, mouse, keyboard... that stuff09:12
webmarensam: can't do any more to help you out09:12
oenwaytolive17grapple; i have no idea; it was his disk set i dont have it09:12
fo0b4erjuano, protocol is "ExplorerPS/2"09:13
n2diySlart, linux_kid, system-pref-keyboard, highlight current keyboard and click remove, then select it again, and click add.09:13
grappleoenwaytolive17: Are you positive you burned your other cds correctly?09:13
linux_kidSLART: I got it!  oot the live CD and see ALL the settings, write them down, and then conigure it that way in the hdd game09:13
juanook, change it to imPS/2 and try out, else just leave it how it was09:13
fo0b4erjuano, ok thanks09:13
oenwaytolive17the thing is grapple i know my cd rom drive is working; because i can view the files using the command line but they wont boot in ubuntu windows manager or at startup09:13
samwebmaren: hrmm how do I check if I have that installed?09:13
Shadowpillar[23589.224659]  usb 4-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 2609:13
Shadowpillar[23589.237286]  usb 4-1: device descriptor read/all, error -7509:13
oenwaytolive17yes im pretty sure;09:13
Slartlinux_kid: sure.. that's a bit like cheating.. but ok ;)09:13
oenwaytolive17i burned from a .cue file09:13
juanothats lmPS/2 an L or I09:13
oenwaytolive17and it boots on this pc09:14
juanol09:14
webmarensam: fire up synaptic, and check if it's green09:14
juanoi think its l, lol fo0b4er09:14
juanolmPS/209:14
linux_kidSlart: yeah, its cheeting09:14
samwebmaren: how do I do that?09:14
jeeves_Mossall:  anyone able to help me with this GPSD issue?09:14
grappleoenwaytolive17: The only thing I can think of is update the BIOS then see if it has a option to change boot priority. If not then, well, I don't know.09:14
fo0b4erjuano, i just copied and pasted what you said before09:14
oenwaytolive17how can i update without a cd rom drive or floppy09:14
fo0b4er"imPS/2"09:14
lupine_85sam, webmaren: apt-cache policy <package> is faster :)09:15
juanoput l, not i fo0b4er09:15
oenwaytolive17dont i need something to actually boot at startup?09:15
grappleoenwaytolive17: You cant boot from your floppy eaither?!09:15
juanofo0b4er:  sorry :P09:15
webmarensam: system>administration>synaptic package manager09:15
fo0b4erjuano, ok09:15
oenwaytolive17i mean yea the cd drive works but it doesnt boot on startup09:15
Slartlinux_kid: but by all means.. go ahead.. just let us know what the settings were.. =)09:15
webmarenlupine: w/e09:15
oenwaytolive17i need to see09:15
linux_kidBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFbbbffff I DID IT!!!09:15
oenwaytolive17ill brb let me check the floppy drive09:15
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j_`hi09:15
juanooops09:15
webmarenlupine_85: but then if he's in synaptic, he can mark it right there09:15
juanofo0b4er:  its with an i09:15
fo0b4erjuano, so it should be "lmPS/2" ?09:15
jeeves_Mossall: or anyone who is good @ getting my WiFi to work corectly?09:15
Slartlinux_kid: ehh.. ok.. sacrificed a goat? made a pact with the behorned one?.. tell us09:16
juanono no... fo0b4er its imPS/209:16
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juanosorry09:16
juanoI with caps09:16
fo0b4erjuano, WHAT now im confused, ok09:16
samwebmaren: where is it at in this program?09:16
juanofo0b4er: just googled it sorry09:16
linux_kidI reinstalled US English and reselected 1o4 Generic09:16
fo0b4erok, "imPS/2", got it09:16
juanowith I caps09:16
webmarenopen synaptic, and click search09:16
juanobig I09:16
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webmarentype in libasound209:16
fo0b4erjuano, ok "ImPS/@"09:16
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fo0b4erlol oops09:17
Slartlinux_kid: we should have listened to what n2diy said.. oh.. about 10 minutes ago :D09:17
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Shadowpillaranyone else here have a sandisk sansa?09:17
juanoImPS/209:17
grappleCan anyone here walk me through updating the Kernel's timer frequency to 1000hz in ubuntu 6.06.1 server ?09:17
juanoyeah try that09:17
fo0b4ergood, ok09:17
juanoand restart x-server09:17
NontitleShadowpillar: i have one, it sucks09:17
samwebmaren: ok and what am i searching for now>09:17
Nontitlei had it replaced 3 times09:17
j_`i have mounted a fat32 partition in linux. folders which are +r in dos/windows are not writable even by root, but all other files are is there a flag i can add in my fstab or something?09:17
sam?09:17
n2diySlart, linux_kid. :)09:17
Slartlinux_kid: well..09:17
linux_kidpoor n2diy09:17
j_`i can't find anything on google09:17
ShadowpillarNontitle: did you get it working in linux?09:17
webmarensam: libasound209:17
juanoif it doesnt work, just keep ExplorerPS/2 fo0b4er09:17
Nontitleyeah, it just acts as a usb drive09:17
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The-Foxanyone care for Ubuntu instllation problem ?09:17
linux_kidj_: google is ALWAYS slow on holidays.  use ask.com09:17
ShadowpillarNontitle: mine isnt09:17
juanoand well try something else09:18
ShadowpillarNontitle: keep gtting usb errors09:18
Shadowpillargetting*09:18
Nontitleoh09:18
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fo0b4erjuano, ok, ill be right back then09:18
j_`linux_kid, ;)09:18
grapplegoogle is never slow09:18
juanook09:18
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samwebmaren: yeah its green09:18
Shadowpillar[23727.650643]  usb 4-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4309:18
Shadowpillar[23727.661973]  usb 4-1: device descriptor read/all, error -7509:18
j_`seriously though09:18
ShadowpillarNontitle: any ideas?09:18
webmarensam: I can do no more to help you09:18
linux_kidSLART, WEBMAREN, and N2DIY: Thaknx and Merry Christmas09:18
Nontitlepossibly formatting would make it better?09:18
jeeves_MossShadowPillar:  I'm having hte same issues with USB issues09:18
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ryjowkaHi09:18
Nontitlesudo cfdisk /dev/sda09:18
jeeves_Mossn2diy:  you're in here as well?  don't you ever sleep?09:18
n2diylinux_kid: thanks, same to you.09:18
Slartlinux_kid: you're welcome.. and Merry Christmas to you too09:18
samhrmm09:19
The-Foxanyone tried amd64 build ?09:19
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webmarenlinux_kid: np, that's why we come here09:19
samperhaps ubuntu not compaitiable with my sound?09:19
The-Foxverion 6.1 of course09:19
n2diyjeeves_Moss: occasionally, merry Xmas.09:19
linux_kidgrapple: try a google search right now... its slow for me09:19
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grapplelinux_kid I just did its like lightning!09:19
Nontitleis there any wa to figure out how much space is in the first 1024 cylinders of a hard drive?09:19
jeeves_Mossn2diy:  can you belive that I've YET to get any help with getting my GPS to work?09:19
grappleCan anyone here walk me through updating the Kernel's timer frequency to 1000hz in ubuntu 6.06.1 server ?09:20
linux_kid0.09 seconds is a long time09:20
j_`use dd to get first 1024 cylinders09:20
CotRo|eRlupine_85: i didnt sucess adding the resolution09:20
oenwaytolive17ok; there is a command prompt in the beginning, my bro erased the windows partition completely on it...i thought ubuntu couldnt recognize windows executables like a windows disc.09:20
grappleResults 1 - 10 of about 183 for ubuntu timer frequency 6.06.1. (0.29 seconds)09:20
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grapple:P09:20
n2diyjeeves_Moss: yes, I saw your questions today, have you tried googling for your make, and model of the GPS, and D-bus?09:20
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juanoany luck fo0b4er??09:21
jeeves_Mossn2diy:  yep.  I did that first.  that's why I'm in here.09:21
Nontitlei'm trying to install Ubuntu Edgy on a 160GB hard drive and GRUB keeps giving me errors that it can't read past the first 1024 cylinders09:21
fo0b4erjuano, thanks it worked perfectly!09:21
juanogreat! :):)09:21
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Nontitlei'm trying to figure out how big to make the /boot partition09:21
fo0b4erjuano, its great im using it right now, thanks again!09:21
j_`is it a bios thing09:21
juanoenjoy your USB mouse under xubuntu fo0b4er!09:21
grappleNoone can help me update the timer frequency in ubuntu?09:21
n2diyjeeves_Moss: ok, then maybe there is an GPS IRC you could try?09:22
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fo0b4erthanks juano09:22
CotRo|eRhow to i configure x server to use a particular resolution??09:22
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jeeves_Mossn2diy:  you're right.  it's #GPSD, and no one in there responds.09:22
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The-Foxwhat to do when instllation problems happen ?09:22
alexorangewhat do u mean a perticualr resolution, cotrer09:22
jeeves_Mossjuano: are you a wiz with USB stuff?09:22
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n2diyjeeves_Moss: A D-bus forum?09:23
juanolol, just fixed fo0b4er mouse on laptop09:23
juanojeeves_Moss:09:23
oenwaytolive17grap, ok; there is a command prompt in the beginning, my bro erased the windows partition completely on it...i thought ubuntu couldnt recognize windows executables like a windows disc.09:23
j_`i have mounted a fat32 partition in linux. folders which are +r in dos/windows are not writable even by root, but all other files are is there a flag i can add in my fstab or something?09:23
juanojeeves_Moss: just fixed fo0b4er mouse on laptop09:23
jeeves_Mossn2diy: so far, nothing.09:23
n2diyCotRo|eR: Yes, there is, but you need to know all the details of your system.09:23
kalilaif a file exists, and i install some deb that has a file there09:23
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jeeves_Mossjuano:  I'm trying to get my USB GPS (the one that comes with M$ streets and trips) to work corectly.09:23
kalilawhat happens09:23
CotRo|eRn2diy: how?09:23
andohI'm having a problem with dvd playback. It seems that the audio is a half second or so behind the video. I'm using the kaffiene and xine players. And they both do the same thing.09:23
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knightI7while installing ubuntu my screen is going wierd..09:24
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Nontitlekaffiene uses the xine engine09:24
n2diyCotRo|eR: run xorg.conf, but if don't know what your doing, you can get into trouble.09:24
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andohWell, I'm having the dvd problem. :)09:24
kohr_someone tell me what i am doing wrong with mounting my ipod09:24
andohThe vid and audio aren't synced.09:24
knightI7but it works fine in safe graphics mode09:24
kohr_i want to mount it to /mnt/ipod09:24
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Nontitlekohr_: ipod's don't usually mount09:25
kohr_what?09:25
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Nontitleyou have to use gtkpod09:25
alexorangeCotRo|eR: what do u mean a perticular resolution? are u trying to force a setting that it is not recognizing?09:25
oenwaytolive17is it possible because i dont have a windows partition anymore, it wont recognize windows based discs??09:25
kohr_i am following http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:FFr-yBHQWKkJ:amarok.kde.org/files/articles/ipod_amarok_tux_june05.pdf+ipod+amarok&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=109:25
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knightI7do anyone know what is this safe graphics mode ?09:25
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andohIs there a way to adjust the audio/video sync?09:25
samcan anyone help me with this?09:25
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j_`oenwaytolive17, no. in your bios do you have it set to boot from cd09:26
CotRo|eRalexorange: my ubuntu only shows 1024x768 maximum resolution, i want to add 1280x102409:26
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ThePubknightI7: as in?  if you just want video to work you can use fbdev or vesa modes09:26
kohr_i am doing it so i can use it with amarok09:26
jeeves_Mossn2diy:  I'll be back.  there is someone in GPSD today!09:26
jeeves_Mossn2diy:  join us if you want #gpsd09:26
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alexorangeCotRo|eR: okay, that should be pretty easy to set up09:26
kariclosi can't download any video, only pictures why? anybody?09:26
The-Foxanyone care for helping with instllation issues ?09:26
oenwaytolive17j do u got any instant messenger, i wanna explain to you what is going on09:26
knightI7ThePub: this happens while I am using a live cd09:26
andohAnd totem doesn't like mms://09:27
kariclosI am using ubuntu5.0409:27
alexorangeCotRo|eR: if u could message me ur /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:27
CotRo|eRk wait 2 mins i ll do that alexorange09:27
morvokanyone have a guess of the speed difference in a SCSI2 and an IDE drive running UDMA10009:27
alexorangeokay09:27
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knightI7any idea09:27
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kohr_nontitle, quote from tux magazine "Your iPod has to be mounted under /mnt/ipod for amaroK to pick it up. Now09:27
kohr_launch amaroK, and navigate to the Device browser. Here you will see ..."09:27
infidel!palm09:28
ubotuA good guide for setting up Palm devices is at http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/PalmOS-HOWTO.html#PC-CONNECT-USB09:28
alexorangei have never heard of 'safe graphics mode' is this for Xorg?09:28
nolimitsoyamorvok, the scsi would consume less cpu time, but other than that, its dependant on drive performance rather than interface09:28
hangfireThe-Fox- what issues do you have09:28
Nontitleoh09:28
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Nontitle!ipod09:28
ubotuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto09:28
The-Foxhangfire -> after the kernel is loading09:28
grappleHow do I change the timer frequency of my kernel to 1000hz ?09:28
The-FoxI am getting the orange background09:28
samhow can i test the sound using /dev/dsp in command line?09:28
The-Foxwith a bar that looks like a corrupted one09:28
The-Foxand thats it09:28
kohr_sam use festival!09:28
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The-Foxno loading, the CD-ROm and HD are idleing09:29
nolimitsoyakohr_, how your ipoding going? :)09:29
kohr_sam, echo hello |festival --tts09:29
The-Foxno response09:29
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The-FoxI tried some boot parameters with not a lot of luck09:29
oenwaytolive17j_ i cant find out how to get advanced options on bios09:29
The-FoxI am using the 6.10 AMD64 build09:29
samkohr_: when typying that I didn't hear anything09:29
kohr_nolimitsoya, not to well, i got amarok but i am having trouble mounting it09:29
morvoknolimitsoya: I would assume slower for the sheer fact that the scsi drives are old 10K 4.309:29
hangfireThe-Fox- dont know, I was hoping it would be an easier problem09:30
kohr_sam, is your volume up?09:30
The-Foxme too :P09:30
CotRo|eRalexorange: http://pastebin.ca/29183709:30
samkohr_: how can I make sure my sound device is turned on orloaded?09:30
The-Foxlooks like some graphics problem09:30
The-Foxany ideas on hot to use text mode or somethong more like "Safe Mode"09:30
kohr_sam, system>prefrences>sound09:30
hangfireThe-Fox- might be an issue with the bootloader, but dont know much about that09:30
The-FoxI tried the safe mode on the boot, no change09:30
nolimitsoyamorvok, in that case you should expect lower reponsetimes with the scsi, but perhaps better sustained transfer with the newer pata :)09:30
Slartcan I run a command using bash with a certain priority/nice-level?09:30
The-Foxhangfire- it seems like the boot is OK09:31
The-Foxit loads the kernel, and it's good09:31
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The-Foxand then after about 3-4 minutes of loading, with the bar moving around09:31
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The-Foxit loads to the orange screen09:31
The-Foxand athen I get the eird little gray bar09:31
morvoknolimitsoya: maybe i should just move that SCSI stuff to my U10, stupid crap IDE controller :)09:32
The-Foxweird*09:32
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nolimitsoyamorvok, try it out and do some benchmarking. its fun, and not too timeconsuming! :D09:32
kohr_i am getting this error, "christopher@Light:/$ sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda /mnt/ipod/nt/ipod/09:32
kohr_mount: No medium found09:32
Slartnevermind, found it09:33
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kohr_when i try and mount my ipod09:33
samkohr_: can you help me figure out what sound device im using in sound options it has HDA ATI SB listed09:33
The-Foxanyone else here can help me with my instllation problem ?09:33
alexorangeCotRo|er: okay, all u need to do is append the following to line 148:09:33
alexorangeModes      "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"09:33
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alexorangechange it to:09:33
alexorangeModes      "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"09:33
The-Foxhangfire- is there is any boot parameter to show the verbosity in the backgound ?09:33
CotRo|eRtnx alexorange: now after that I restart the system?09:33
kohr_sam, not really, i suck at sound, try looking in alsa mixer also09:33
webmarenhow do I set up 1200x800 on edgy with an ati card?09:34
samkohr_: i did09:34
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kohr_sam what exactly is the problem09:34
hangfireThe-Fox- Ive had too much eggnog, Im sure there is, cant remember09:34
The-Foxeggnog ?09:35
kohr_its alchaholic09:35
hangfireyes- "real eggnog"09:35
alexorangeCotRo|eR: yes, or you can restart Xserver by pressing ctrl+alt+backspace. all of open programs will close, tho. so make sure its saved09:35
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The-Foxhehe09:36
CotRo|eRok tnx alexorange :D09:36
The-Foxsounds like biahhh09:36
CotRo|eRHappy Christmas09:36
kohr_merry09:36
kohr_merry christmas09:36
Tank_Hi, I'm trying to install Ubuntu 6.10 using the alternative cd.. When I press "Install in text mode" it's running until it says "Starting system log daemon: syslogd, klogd" and then it freezes, doesn't get any further09:36
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The-FoxTank_ how do you install in tect mode ?09:37
linux_kidDoes Linuxant work in edgy?09:37
The-Foxtext*09:37
The-FoxI am having problem with the Instllation myself09:37
SlartTank_: I had some trouble (still has) booting with things connected to the USB port.. try disconnecting external USB drives etc..see if that works09:37
kohr_installation09:37
The-FoxIthink it's related to the gfx somehow09:37
kohr_not instllation09:37
webmarenanybody know how to get 1200x800 to work in edgy on an ati graphics card09:37
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sucks05how to install edgy not in live cd ??09:38
Tank_The-Fox: I uses the alternative cd, it boots from the cd and gives me the screen where I can choose text mode installation?09:38
infidel!ir09:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ir - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:38
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samthis sucks no sound09:38
sam:(09:38
ThmsNeed I AMD64 or i386 for a core 2 duo ?09:38
samforums dont have info09:39
The-FoxAMD6409:39
ThmsThe-Fox: and is there xgl on ubuntu?09:39
The-Foxcuse it includes EMT64 which is AMD 6409:39
Tank_Slart: I'll just try that, thanks :)09:39
The-Foxxgl ?09:39
Thms:o09:39
SlartTank_: hope that makes it work.. good luck09:39
kohr_sam, try it with a diffrent sound card09:39
The-Foxlol I am trying to intall Ubuntu with no luck09:39
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sucks05can we install edgy without running live cd ??09:39
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samkohr_: another sound card?09:40
Tank_sucks05: Use the alternative cd :)09:40
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shogo3dMerry Christmas!09:40
kohr_sam, it might be a hardware problem, like no drivers09:40
webmarenmy xorg.conf file has 1200x800 set up09:40
The-Foxbut core 2 duo has EMT 64 which is equal to x8-64609:40
The-Fox* x86-6409:40
shogo3dhello fellow linux users! I am using Gnome instead of KDE.. and I have questions09:40
kohr_sam, alternatily, try using a knoppix live cd,09:41
kohr_see if that works09:41
webmarenshogo3d: gnome is the default for ubuntu, ask away09:41
Slart!ask shogo3d09:41
shogo3dIn Gnome, when I drag windows.. it leaves a trail (split second) of itself...   does KDE do this?09:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ask shogo3d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:41
Slartshogo3d: just ask09:41
ThmsWhat are the difference betwin server, alternate and desktop ?09:41
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shogo3d!ask does KDE leave trails of windows like Gnome does during drag operations?09:42
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shogo3dhehe..  bot isn't that smart yet.. my bad09:42
shogo3dI have all 3 platforms, mac, win, lin09:42
Slartshogo3d: eh.. I haven't seen any trails.. do you want it to? =)09:42
kohr_can a bot really be "smart"?09:42
webmaren...doubt it09:43
The-FoxI still need help with instllation troublshooting09:43
shogo3dslart:  no.. I don't... I want all refreshes to be perfect like win and mac09:43
The-Foxanyone ?09:43
kohr_really, all it can do is analyze language09:43
Slartshogo3d: I mean.. the windows follow the mouse pointer..09:43
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ThmsWhat are the difference betwin server, alternate and desktop ?09:43
grapple!ask I just did make menuconfig and I am tring to find the place to change the timer frequency to 1000hz, anyone know where it is at?09:43
shogo3dslart:  well.. its almost in realtime.. but there is a fraction of a second delay09:43
Slartshogo3d: if you're wondering what it feels like/look like.. why not download the live cd and give it a spin?09:43
ZaggynlAnyone uses mpd and gmpc in here?09:43
shogo3dslart: I have a decent system too.. Pentum 4 with 2 gigs ram and 6800 ultra09:44
shogo3dslart: I am on gnome rite now.. and ran out of room for kde09:44
Slartshogo3d: mm, almost like mine.. AMD 64, 2 gigs.. and a nvidia card on that09:44
The-FoxAmd64 Kills P409:44
shogo3dslart: do you see perfect refreshes in your gnome?09:44
The-Foxtoo bad Core 2 Duo kills AMD64 :/09:44
drach!alternate09:44
ubotuThe Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.09:44
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Slartshogo3d: well.. perfect? I'm not that picky.. what do you mean "perfect refresh" ?09:45
shogo3dslart: basically.. my other windows won't refresh until 1/2 a second later09:45
drach!alternate | Thms09:45
ubotuThms: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.09:45
shogo3dlets say Gaim is moved09:45
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shogo3dGaim won't draw itself until a 1/2 a second later09:45
shogo3dand if you move a browser across Gaim...09:45
Slartshogo3d: well.. there is a short delay until the windows underneath redraw.. I don't know how long.. 1/10 of a second perhaps..09:45
The-Foxhow do I use text mode in instllation09:45
shogo3dthen it disappears and redraws itself later09:45
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sucks05where i can get alternative cd ??09:46
Slartsucks05: it isn't available on the ubuntu site?09:46
Pulshionhi, doesn anyone know if it is possible to have video-in on ubuntu? and merry xmas09:46
shogo3dslart: basically it is very minor.. but kinda irritating because I have to wait for the win to redraw itself.. dragging seems to be slogging in gnome09:46
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HnHwww.oldp.net/?l=Prorok (Please click on link)www.oldp.net/?l=Prorok (Please click on link)09:46
kohr_merry christmas09:46
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kohr_HOHOHO09:46
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sucks05Slart : ok thx bro i will chek it09:46
Slartshogo3d: yes.. I kind of agree.. considering the hardware these days we shouldn't see any delay at all.. but I guess people are busy making paperclips for office and such =)09:47
shogo3dslart: ahahaha09:47
shogo3dslart:  other than that.. Gnome is really sweeeet09:47
kohr_a fluxbox is good too09:48
Slartshogo3d: but there are plenty of desktop-thingies on linux.. window maker.. enlightment.. and a whole bunch more09:48
Slartshogo3d: there's bound to be one that is nice =)09:48
shogo3dslart:  do u think that the 3d desktop will get rid of the delay since OpenGL will draw it instead of CPU?09:48
michelpshogo3d, i hated gnome until I figured out Ctrl-L09:48
grappleFor christ sake can someone help me change my timer frequency to 1000hz ?09:48
michelpnow it's easy ;)09:48
kohr_whats ctrl l?09:48
michelptry it09:48
Slartshogo3d: I haven't tried xgl/compiz/beryl etc etc.. it might09:48
michelpon your desktop09:48
kohr_WHAT09:48
Tank_Slart: I'm in now, might have been the usb hub in my monitor that caused the problem, thanks! :)09:48
Slartshogo3d: but as far as I know... the 3d desktops on linux aren't really mature yet09:48
shogo3dslart: I saw a video from Suse with 3d desktop and it was soooooo fast.. I did not see delays!09:48
Pulshionso, does anyone know how to do Video-In on linux?09:49
The-FoxI need help with instllation please09:49
kohr_where did the text go?09:49
SlartTank_: glad I could help09:49
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kohr_what does it it, delete the log?09:49
shogo3dslart: so i was thinking maybe its my vid card09:49
webmarenshogo3d: that's because the demo was probably done on a workstation09:49
Slartshogo3d: bah.. the 6600 should be fast enough.. considering what it can do in games.. 2d should be a piece of cake09:49
shogo3dwebmaren: ah.. i see.. so its time for me to upgrade to core 209:49
kohr_oh, thats nice09:49
webmarenshogo: w/e09:49
shogo3dslart: thats what i was thinking too09:49
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shogo3dquad core is for workstations.. so the consumer version should be out for us soon :)09:50
Slartshogo3d: I haven't had the chance to try a true 2d desktop card.. matrox or nvidia quadro.. those might be better.. perhaps09:50
kohr_are computers really getting that much faster though?09:50
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grappleCan I get some help?09:50
webmarenyou can buy quads now09:50
shogo3dslart: hmm.. dam.. quadro!! ouch09:50
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kohr_will quad core really help?09:50
dhthi there09:50
kohr_!quad core09:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about quad core - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:51
alshi09:51
dhtanyone is using mame under ubuntu edgy?09:51
Slartshogo3d: but those cost a leg and a couple of arms.. and no games.. =)09:51
grappleCan I get some help?09:51
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kohr_!stuff i know about09:51
Slart!help09:51
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots09:51
shogo3dslart: yea.. quadro is cool for 3d pros... but i prefer the gaming card relatives.. yea.. i'm a guilty microsoft windows user too hehe09:51
n1gkehi als09:51
webmarenif ubotu is all-knowing09:51
kohr_!windows09:51
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents09:51
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webmaren!christmas09:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about christmas - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:52
kohr_lol09:52
shogo3dbut so far i am enjoying ubuntu for a few weeks09:52
webmarenubotu has failed09:52
shogo3d!windows09:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about has failed - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:52
apokryphos!botabuse09:52
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...09:52
Slartshogo3d: hehe.. yea.. I just recently switched to ubuntu myself.. stupid windows 2000 wont support my 64 bit processor.. bah..09:52
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The-Foxhelp with instllation anyone ?09:52
The-Foxinstllation*09:52
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kohr_!google09:52
ubotuGoogle is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux09:52
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kohr_!microsoft09:53
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents09:53
shogo3dslart: sweet! 64bit...  wow.. i have yet to try that..  I wonder how cool it is to render in 64 bit with something like 64 bit lightwave.. but i'm off topic09:53
shogo3d!microsoft09:53
SlartThe-Fox: I think I would have answered if I could.. but repeat the question again.. I might have just missed it09:53
webmarenhaha09:53
kohr_!Fendora09:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Fendora - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:53
kohr_!gentoo09:53
ubotuOther !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)09:53
apokryphos!botabuse | kohr_09:53
ubotukohr_: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...09:53
webmaren!Fedoras09:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Fedoras - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:53
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apokryphosGuys, stop playing with the bot.09:53
shogo3d!Fedora09:53
dniteis there any way to 'rename' hot plugged media? like thumb drives, flash cards and usb hard drives? so they don't always show up up as usbdisk-#09:53
The-FoxSlart: after the boot loads up09:53
Slartshogo3d: mm.... haven't tried anything really heavy yet.. but so far it all works ok..09:53
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The-FoxI am getting the orange background09:53
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webmarenapokryphos: awww....09:53
kohr_hey, the pipe command still works09:53
The-Foxand a weird little gray bar09:53
SlartThe-Fox: the splash screen?09:54
The-Foxand then system gets into idle and nothing happens09:54
apokryphoswebmaren: you can investigate with him in /msg, or -bots09:54
The-FoxSlart: lets start from the beggining OK ?09:54
kohr_what is -bots?09:54
SlartThe-Fox: tried disconnecting any USB drives? ..09:54
grappleSORRY FOR ALL CAPS BUT I HAVE ASKED MY QUESTION ABOUT 15 TIMES WITH NO RESPONCE. I HAVE DONE "make menuconfig" TO CONFIGURE THE KERNEL AND I AM TRING TO FIND OUT HOW TO CHANGE THE TIMER FREQUENCY TO 1000HZ.09:54
apokryphoskohr_: #ubuntu-bots09:54
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The-Foxno I didn't09:54
The-FoxI only have my mouse09:54
Slartgrapple: I HAVE NO IDEA...09:54
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idlemindtry #kernel09:55
SlartThe-Fox: ok.. something else then.. can you boot in recovery mode?09:55
juanoThe-Fox: what seems to be the problem?09:55
grappleThank you idlemind09:55
apokryphoswebmaren: Ubugtu has even more fun features; see in -offtopic09:55
The-FoxSLart: first, I have the Boot screen09:55
The-Foxthen, I get the loading screen09:55
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apokryphosgrapple: not being responded to is not a reason to be able to use caps09:55
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apokryphos!patience09:55
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines09:55
The-Foxthe loading bar is moving09:55
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The-Foxafter that, I get into a new screen09:56
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The-Foxjust before that there are 2 text lines says the boot or kernel is loading09:56
SlartThe-Fox: the login-screen?09:56
The-Foxno, I am talking about Instllation09:56
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Slartah.. sorry09:56
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The-Foxhehe09:56
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The-Foxdoes it amkes more sense now ?09:56
The-Foxmakes*09:56
Slartyes..09:56
devoutCan anyone help me with why I cant get channels detected on my TV Tuner w/ xawtv http://pastebin.com/84482209:56
The-Foxok09:56
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Slartand at that screen.. it freezes?09:57
The-Foxnow, there is a gray bar09:57
CotRo|eRhow do I make gkrellm run automatically on startup ?09:57
The-Foxand after that, nothing happenes09:57
The-FoxCD-ROM and HD are idle09:57
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SlartThe-Fox: are you running the alternate install version?09:57
n2diyThe-Fox: where is the grey bar?09:57
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The-FoxI am using alt install, AMD 6409:57
The-Foxgrey bar is in the middle09:57
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Zaggynlwaugh09:58
The-Foxthe very bottom of it looks weird, little dots in different colors09:58
n2diyThe-Fox: ok, so it isn't your task bar loading.09:58
Slarthmm.. can't really remember.. I just ran the installation once.. don't really remember.. but it shouldn't just die..09:58
dniteCotRo|eR, go to System -> Preferences -> Sessions ... in the Startup Programs tab, add the command u'd like to start @ startup09:58
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curs0r_someone, please, i need help... my samba client will not connect to my windows machine's shares, nor can my windows machine connect to my samba shares09:58
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The-Foxanyway to bring some verbosity ?09:58
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juanocurs0r_ i can help you09:58
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curs0r_my xbox connects to both though O.o09:59
The-FoxSLart: I am running Opteron 170 with 2GB of RAM09:59
juanocurs0r edit /etc/smb.conf and replace security = user to security = share09:59
The-FoxNvidia 7800GT09:59
dnitecurs0r, it probably has something to do w/ samba users vs linux users vs windows users .. they all have to match, for the most part...09:59
stevenI forgot a name of an application.  It streams music and connects to like shoutcast, etc.  Its icon is a Green play button.  I cannot seem to find it anymore, does anyone know what application im talking about?09:59
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juanocurs0r /etc/samba/smb.conf sorry10:00
dnitecurs0r, ya, i was just going to suggest what juano said.. change the security to share..10:00
stevenit would allow you to stream music to amarok, xmms, etc.10:00
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SlartThe-Fox: I have no idea.. perhaps there is a way to make it print out more text about what it is doing.. a verbose switch somewhere perhaps.. but I'm just guessing.. someone else perhaps knows more?10:00
todayalemonhello! where do i get help with nfs shares? i want to share files between two ubuntu machines. the wiki on the german site ubuntuusers.de was clear and easy to understand and i dont see where i made the mistake (mount to NFS server '192.168.0.4' failed: server is down.)10:00
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CotRo|eRtnx dnite10:00
kohr_i think your server  is down10:00
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juanocurs0r ?? any luck?10:01
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dnitedoes anyone know how to rename removable media so they don't always get mounted at usbdisk-1, usbdisk-2 .. i'd like to give them a little more meaningful names for each of my usb storage devices...10:01
The-FoxSlart: I will try to play with boot parameters10:01
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The-FoxSlart: do you happenly know if it matters if I put the string at the beggining or at the end of the boot string ?10:02
infidelanyone running a palm tx with ubuntu?10:02
juanodnite what kind of media?10:02
SlartThe-Fox: check the manual for grub before you reboot..10:02
juanostick, ipod?10:02
jroesthere used to be an article about running ubuntu on slower machines, does anyone happen to have that link handy?  I've been googling and searching the wiki for a while today and I can't seem to find it...10:02
todayalemon?10:02
SlartThe-Fox: I think/guess/hope it doesn't matter..10:02
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The-Fox:/10:03
The-Fox10x anyway Slart10:03
SlartThe-Fox: but check the grub man page.. it's bound to be there10:03
dnitejuano, usb thumb drives, flash cards, usb hard drives... they all get automatically named w/ an incrimental usbdisk-# .. i'd like to give them mount points that mean something instead...10:03
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slophelp! i just got a new dvd burner, video card (old one ati, new one nvidia), and a new sound card (old ensoniq, new sound blaster)....is installing these as easy as just plugging them all in and rebooting?  or is there something i need to do beforehand?10:03
juanommm dnite try editing purhaps your mtab or fstab10:03
n2diydnite: right click on the device, select properties, and then you can select a new symbol for it.10:03
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kohr_cd ..10:04
todayalemonis this actually the right place to ask?10:04
hou5tonanyone here play Frozen Bubble?10:04
dimas__jroes: try xubuntu  site  for  that.10:04
The-FoxSlart: link please ?10:04
kohr_hou5ton whats that?10:04
The-FoxSlart: I am pretty new at linux10:04
SlartThe-Fox: one second.. I'll check10:04
jroeshm, xubuntu10:04
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hou5tonsome game I came across that is supposed to be interesting ... but I can't find any instructions.10:04
jroescool, thanks10:04
SlartThe-Fox: this one should work10:04
kohr_try armagetron10:05
SlartThe-Fox: darn enter key... http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man8/grub.8.html10:05
dnitejuano, i did try a while back to edit my fstab.. but i think gnome-volume-manager handles that so it's almost irrelevant and i believe it broke stuff... just can't seem to find any settings for it...10:05
dimas__jroes: here it is http://www.xubuntu.org/10:05
The-FoxSlart: SPanx a lot m8 !10:05
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Zaggynl#/join mpd10:05
Zaggynl..10:05
SlartThe-Fox: no worries.. good luck10:05
jroesdimas__: thankyas10:05
kohr_LOL10:05
webmarenzaggynl: lol10:05
kohr_er10:05
n2diydnite: right click on the device, select properties, and then you can select a new symbol for it, like camera, etc...10:05
kohr_scates10:05
Zaggynl<:o)10:05
webmaren"/join #mpd"10:05
Zaggynlyes yes10:05
gatenrunning ldconfig gives me this error (among others): ldconfig: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.0.9746 is not an ELF file - it has the wrong magic bytes at the start. I just upgraded to 2.6.15-27-k7 from i386. Now I can't get nvidia drivers working. Ive read most of the guides and they don't mention a ldconfig problem. any ideas?10:05
taTeCLHi, i want a million dollar, cand anybody help me?10:06
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webmarentaTeCL: no10:06
The-FoxSlart: how od I use this messages ?10:06
taTeCL:o(10:06
juanodnite ok, ill try to come up ith something10:06
The-FoxSLart: Can i use it at the boot ?10:06
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dniten2diy, i'm not really concerned about the 'symbol' .. i'd like to change the mount point.. so i don't have to remember what order i plugged stuff in, so i can quickly type /media/thumbdrive or /media/sdcard instead of needing to know what # usbdisk it is.10:06
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SlartThe-Fox: isn't there a little option at the start.. just when you boot the install cd..10:07
hou5tonnever mind ... found it10:07
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dnitejuano, thanks.. if u come up with anything, lemme know.. it's not too important.. but it's a little annoying to me...10:07
SlartThe-Fox: I might be thinking about the Debian install disk.. not sure10:07
curs0r_juano,  sorry, i'm back, can you help me?10:07
The-FoxSlart: there is, I'll try that10:07
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juanocurs0r_10:07
n2diydnite, you can mount them from the desktop, and if you give them new symbols you can keep track of what is what.10:07
juanoedit your /etc/samba/smb.conf change security = user to security = share10:07
curs0r_ok10:07
The-FoxGoing on to my way10:08
The-Foxhopefully with some more luck10:08
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juanowith root of course curs0r_ :P10:08
gatenanyone ever see any errors similar to this: ldconfig: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.0.9746 is not an ELF file - it has the wrong magic bytes at the start. It happens whenever ldconfig is run (like when un/installing anything(10:08
dniten2diy, i know that. i'm not worried about being able to see what it is on the desktop, i'm more concerned about being able to access them quickly from the command line w/o having the #'s change and all ... i'd like each of my usb mass storage devices to have a seperate, static mount point.10:08
juanothen go to places, connect to server and enter the other PC you want to connect to's name curs0r_10:09
Pulshionso, does anyone know how to do Video-In on linux?10:09
juanocurs0r_:  and select windows share in menu10:09
n2diydnite, ok, good luck.10:09
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curs0r_thanks juano, works great10:09
Slartgaten: nope, never seen that before.. but I'm guessing that file is broken.. tried reinstalling it?10:10
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ckuetheFYI, your gpsd port is massively out of date10:10
juanogood :)10:10
wendanyone have any experience with configuring exim4 to support multiple domains?10:10
samcan someone please help me get my sound working?10:10
juanodnite http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131, this talks a lot bout fstab, maybe can be some sort of help10:10
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gatenSlart: my problem is im not sure where it comes from. i'm thnking its from the nvidia binary drivers, but i tried to uninstall/reinstall, no go10:11
dnitejuano, thanks.. i'll take a look10:11
Slartgaten: mm, that sounds plausible..  I'll have a look.. see if I've got one too10:11
whyameye!sound | sam10:12
ubotusam: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin10:12
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samthanks10:12
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gatenSlart: thanks. i can;t get X up anymore, and resetting the xserver config doesnt fix it10:13
Slartgaten: running 32bit? 64 bit?10:13
webmarenwow I'm building fglrx10:13
webmarentime for some waiting10:13
webmarenlalalalalalala10:14
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gatenSlat: 32bit10:14
webmarenwow that was fast10:14
dimas__gaten: have you installed Nvidia via NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9746-pkg2.run or some other way ?10:14
gatendimas: yes, but i uninstalled it w/ the installers uninstall option.10:14
gatenit didn't work, so i decided to try the ubuntu drivers. that hasnt worked either10:15
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Slartgaten: and a reinstall from nvidias binary package doesn't fix it?10:15
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Savage-{!beryl10:15
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl10:15
dimas__yeah, what does  'file' say on that  shared library, does it deduce it to somethings like : ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, AMD x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), stripped10:15
gatenSlart: correct. ive tried quite a few times.10:16
juanogaten: what seems to be the problem?10:16
Slartgaten: yes.. as dimas__ said.. run "file /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.0.9746"10:16
gaten/usr/lib/libGL.so.1.0.9746: data10:16
curs0r_juano, how do i get the writable one to be writable?10:16
gatenjuano: x wont start after upgrading the kernel to k7 and installing nvidia drivers10:16
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curs0r_juano, i set it up as writable but...10:16
HnHwww.oldp.net/?l=Prorok (Please click on link)10:17
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Slarthmm. data.. mine says "/usr/lib/libGL.so.1.0.9746: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, AMD x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), stripped"10:17
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Slartgaten: have you tried downloading the install package from nvidia again?10:17
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juanommm, gaten , try init 3, then enter /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change driver "nv" to driver "nvidia"10:18
gatenSlart: no. think i got a bad install?10:18
ZaggynlI'm trying to give a user the right to read an usb drive, but it keeps saying it's mounted read only10:18
juanogaten: check too see if its in "nvidia"10:18
dimas__try booting into rescue kernel, and reinstalling from NVIDIA 's own package10:18
Slartgaten: either that.. or something else happened to the file10:18
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gatendimas: i'm in rescue. and i have tried that10:18
juanocurs0r_: sorry whats the prob??10:18
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dimas__then come back to the normal kernel and see if it detect mismatch on the driver,and reinstall again .10:18
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curs0r_juano, that is to say that in the shared folders tool i unchecked readonly for one of the drives but it does not allow writing10:18
n2diyZaggynl: what make usb drive?10:19
gatenjunao: and i did change "nvidia" to "nv". that allows me to hear the drums, but still no display10:19
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samanyone?10:19
SlartZaggynl: I'm not sure here.. but I think there's a user group for automatically mounted things.. floppies etc.. plug something.. plugdev perhaps10:19
ZaggynlSlart, thanks10:19
curs0r_mc__, did you get the beryl wpaper plugin from me yesterday?10:19
samno sound for xmas10:19
samdamn10:19
ZaggynlSlart, I'm trying to do it like this: ' sudo chmod +r mpd /media/case'10:19
mc__curs0r_: what?10:19
samubotu: i tried those sites didn't work10:19
SlartZaggynl: that only gives you read rights10:20
gatendimas: ok, ill try the old kernel, see what happens. I'll still have the same problems in k7 though10:20
whyameyesam: what's the chipset for the card?10:20
curs0r_mc__, there was someone using that handle in the beryl room yesterday, sorry10:20
juanocurs0r_: check your /etc/samba/smb.conf check to see if you configured master browser to yes, and also see for that in windows the drive is shared10:20
ZaggynlSlart, I need the mpd group only to read the music files10:20
mc__sam: ubotu is a bot10:20
samwhyameye: intel10:20
samoh10:20
whyameyesam: intel what?10:20
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juanocurs0r_: in your smb.conf you should put on browseable = yes everything you can10:20
samwhyameye: aplay -l lists10:21
sam**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****10:21
samcard 0: SB [HDA ATI SB] , device 0: STAC92xx Analog [STAC92xx Analog]  Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #010:21
whyameyesam: lspci and find the sound card...10:21
samcard 0: SB [HDA ATI SB] , device 1: STAC92xx Digital [STAC92xx Digital]  Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #010:21
gatendimas, juano and slart, thank you very much. ill try some of those ideas and come back later10:21
SlartZaggynl: oh. sorry ... forgot your question.. try chmod g+r instead10:21
ZaggynlSlart, okay10:21
juanogaten: no prob, anytime10:21
hchm. i have a built in sound card, on an old computer. ubuntu doesn't find it. what should i do?10:21
dimas__gaten: I have nvidia-installer.log in /var/log, it's pretty detailed: maybe there's something there to hint ?10:21
samwhyameye: http://pastebin.com/84479110:21
ZaggynlSlart, chmod: changing permissions of `/media/case': Read-only file system10:22
samwhyameye: i cant tell I think ATI SB10:22
SlartZaggynl: hold on.. my bad10:22
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SlartZaggynl: sudo chmod o+r /media/case10:23
curs0r_path = /home/curs0r/windump available = yes browsable = yes public = yes writable = yes10:23
ZaggynlSlart, okay thanks10:23
curs0r_still doesn't write?10:23
SlartZaggynl: that should give read rights to everyone for that directory.. if I got it right10:23
gatendimas: im sorry, but i must go. perhaps another time10:23
ZaggynlSlart, I get the same message10:23
Zaggynlread only filesystem10:23
juanocurs0r_: go to your smb.conf and check to see if writable = yes10:23
dimas__gaten: np, good luck10:23
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SlartZaggynl: oh.. what are you mounting there?10:24
curs0r_juano, yes it is10:24
ZaggynlSlart, it's an NTFS usb drive10:24
cartesian1984Where does firefox read it's default profile from, on the live CD?10:24
Zaggynl*a10:24
juanomm ok curs0r_, lets see what else it can be10:24
samwhyameye: did you get the site?10:24
SlartZaggynl: is there some kind of write protect on it?10:24
juanocurs0r_: your trying to share a windows drive to linux or viceversa>10:24
ZaggynlSlart, I need mpd to be able to read it, but it doesn't seem to have the right to even read it10:24
whyameyesam: well I'm not sure but the first thing I'd try is to make sure the backports are enabled in the repos and see if there is an update for alsa.10:25
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curs0r_linux to windows10:25
curs0r_figured it would be easier10:25
whyameyesam: is this dapper?10:25
SlartZaggynl: I think it's objecting to you even setting new rights on it.. since it's read only10:25
samwhyameye: I belive so im trying to get this working on my laptop10:25
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whyameyesam: what laptop?10:26
curs0r_i'm just trying to dump the userdata from windows onto the machine here so i can put edgy on it10:26
samwhyameye: gateway10:26
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whyameyesam: gateway what?10:26
SlartZaggynl: what file system is on the usb drive?10:26
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ZaggynlSlart, NTFS10:27
SlartZaggynl: ntfs? =)10:27
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samwhyameye: sorry gateway MX370210:27
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Ash-Fox!dvd10:27
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages10:27
juanocurs0r_: you want to pass data from windows to linux and it wont let you write from windows to linux?10:27
SlartZaggynl: ah.. that's it then.. linux and ntfs isn't quite friends yet... all implementations of ntfs I've seen has destroyed all data on the drive when writing to it.. so it's been disabled until it works10:27
Slart!ntfs10:27
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse10:27
curs0r_juano, correct10:27
juanocurs0r_: ok sec10:28
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SlartZaggynl: have you tried unmounting it.. setting permissions.. then mounting it again?10:28
ZaggynlYeah okay, I don't need or want write support, reading is fine, but for some weird reason, mpd is not adding the symlink to the usb drive to its list10:28
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orangeflyi want to start working on an offsite backup for friends of mine that have businesses....what is the simplest way for them to connect and backup from their windows machines to my ubuntu server at my house....???....10:28
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webmareni just installed fglrx and I still can't get my resolution to be 1200x80010:28
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alexorangewebmaren: what resolution are you stuck at?10:29
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curs0r_that's a weird resolution10:29
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webmarenalexorange: 1025x76810:29
webmarencurs0r: it's widescreen, and a foreign monitor10:29
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webmarenbut it worked in dapper10:30
juanocurs0r_: funny you mention this, i only tried the viceversa now that you mention it , i tried it and same thing happened lol, let me check it out10:30
webmareneventually10:30
alexorangehave u edited your xorg.conf manually?10:30
webmarenalexorange: it's in there10:30
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curs0r_juano, i did chmod 755 on the folder10:30
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juanocurs0r_:  did it work?10:31
alexorangeis it a DVI monitor?10:31
curs0r_juano, didn't help but i did it10:31
juanocurs0r_: ok10:31
webmarenalexorange: no D-SUB10:31
webmaren*no, dsub10:31
no_commenthi, i installed the mp3-codec, but i cant hear any sound in amarok. the drum sound at ubuntu-start is hearable. what can i do?10:31
whyameyesam: you could try a pastebin of lshw and see if that tells us more...10:31
webmarenwhyameye: sam has quit ("Lost terminal")10:32
alexorangewebbmaren: i had a similar problem recently, can you paste your /var/log/Xorg log file?10:32
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webmarenwhat's the pastebin url10:32
alexorangepaste.ubuntu-nl.org ?10:32
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curs0r_juano, chmod 777 worked10:33
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VR_hey all, im trying to install the kubuntu codecs, but they're not in the wiki anymore, in the restricted formats section.10:33
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VR_or am i just not looking in the right place?10:33
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juanoahh ok10:34
curs0r_juano, thanks for the help10:34
webmarenalexorange: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38804/10:35
juanocurs0r_:  ok no prob, did you do chmod 777 "shared folder"?10:35
webmarenthat's /var/log/Xorg.0.log10:35
alexorangeokay, thnx i'll take a look thru it10:35
orangeflyi want to start working on an offsite backup for friends of mine that have businesses....what is the simplest way for them to connect and backup from their windows machines to my ubuntu server at my house....???....10:35
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alex-weejorangefly: webdav10:36
alex-weejorangefly: windows calls them "web folders"10:36
curs0r_juano, yes10:36
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curs0r_juano, as root with samba stopped10:36
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juanook10:36
kpelhello10:37
n2diyorangefly: how big are you expecting the back ups to be?10:37
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curs0r_let your hearts swell fellow nerds, another system casts off the chains of ms today10:37
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n2diycurs0r_: Merry Xmas!10:38
webmareni'll be back in a minute, I might have found the problem myself.10:38
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socommQuestion.10:38
n1gkemerry Christmas everyone.....10:38
curs0r_n2diy, meh, save it for the christians lol10:38
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socommWhat's the best Sega emulator to use on Ubuntu?10:38
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juanocurs0r_:  that didnt work for me lol10:39
alexorangewebmaren: i am not seeing it trying 1200x800 is it in ur xorg.conf, in the Screen Section?10:39
socommGens doesn't compile cleanly and neither does generator.10:39
socommThoughs?10:39
socomms/Thoughs/Thoughts10:39
orangeflywhat kind of range matters....never over a gig or anything....10:39
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stevenDoes anyone know why my wireless is sometimes eth1 or wlan0... its completely random, but i would like my wireless to stay the same.  I am using ndiswrapper and have blacklisted bcm43xx  I have had this problem ever since dapper.10:40
alexorangealso it is a CRT monitor or Flatpanel?10:40
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n2diyn1gke: Same to you, still looking for you on APRS, and now I am seeing stations in NE.10:40
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kitchesteven: you have to set a udev rule to make the alias hold to a MAC address10:41
n2diygotta go, 73 all10:41
SPOPPOHi10:41
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stevenkitche: then it will not change from wlan0 to eth1, etc10:41
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kitchesteven: the udev rule will hold that mac address to whatever you put the alias to10:42
n1gkeok, I am on APRS also, will look for oyu.10:42
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n1gken2diy: Are you using a ssid ? If yes, what ?10:43
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stevenkitche: awesome, so it will assign the NIC to an alias such as Wlan0, or Eth1 instead of it changing back and forth when i reboot?    AWESOME!  thank you10:43
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kitcheSteve: you have to edit /etc/udev/rules.d/10-network.rules10:43
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kitcheand put something like this in it SUBSYSTEM=="net", ATTRS{address}=="aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff", NAME="lan0"10:43
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webmarendidn't work10:44
webmarenstill stuck at 1024x76810:44
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n1gken2diy: I can see you via findu.com, but not in APRS mode.10:44
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alswebmaren...edit your xorg.conf10:44
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alsand add more resolution entries10:45
stevenkitche: okay, and ifconfig will give me the MAC / HWaddr correct?10:45
webmarenals: i have10:45
alsthat's strange...that's all i had to do :(10:45
Caplain_what package has the bindir command?10:45
SPOPPOyou tell me10:45
kitchesteven: yes if you want you can pastebin the output of ifconfig and I'll tell you what your mac address is on your card10:45
alexorangei see this:10:45
alexorange578. (II) fglrx(0): Supported VESA Video Modes:10:45
n1gkewebmaren: Please post you xorg.conf for me someplace and tell me also the model of your monitor ?10:45
alexorange579. (II) fglrx(0): 640x480@60Hz10:45
alexorange580. (II) fglrx(0): 800x600@56Hz10:45
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alexorange581. (II) fglrx(0): 800x600@60Hz10:45
alexorange582. (II) fglrx(0): 1024x768@60Hz10:45
alexorangeas an issue10:45
stevenkitche:  HWaddr 00:14:A5:22:B4:7310:45
n1gkewebmaren: make & model that is10:45
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alexorangei think, its not reading the DPMS from the monitor10:46
QMarioMERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!!! :)10:46
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juanocurs0r_: it worked! chmod 777 with smb off10:47
webmarenn1gke: xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38806/10:47
kitchesteven: ok edit /etc/udev/rules.d/10-network.rules and in it add SUBSYSTEM=="net", ATTRS{address}=="00:14:A5:22:B4:73", NAME="eth1" if you want that card to be eth110:47
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stevenkitche: okay do i create the file if it doesn't exist?10:47
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juanocurs0r_: didnt work with home dir, made new dir , did chmod with smbd stop and then worked when i did smbd start10:47
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The-FoxNo luck at all after trying to install 6.10 AMD6410:47
curs0r_juano, cool ^^10:47
kitchesteven: yes if it doesn't exist10:47
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juanocurs0r_: yeah.. great10:48
juanchito2006Hello,  have problems with my screen frequency10:48
webmarenn1gke: x2gen mw15a10:48
The-FoxI have a screenshot of the problem if anyone dares to try...10:48
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n1gkewebmaren: Ok, let me go look @ your xorg.conf, brb.10:48
curs0r_juano, i think you have to set the hom export writable to yes to make a dir under /home work10:48
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juanchito2006Hello, I have problems with my screen frequency, it seems out of range from startup10:48
stevenkitche: thank you very much.  I seem to be running into all sorts of things like this since Breezy!!  haha10:48
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alsjuan10:49
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juanocurs0r_: k , this folder i made is under /home though10:49
juanchito2006How can I correct the screen frequency?10:49
juanojuanchito2006:10:49
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amonkeyanyone have any info on dualbooting edgy and vista? i have vista already installed and wanted to know if the installer would be able to deal with it10:49
curs0r_juano, bizarre...10:49
juanojuanchito2006:  hablas espanol?10:49
alslook up the model of your screen. look up the h sync and v sync for it. then edit dpkg-reconfigure xorg.conf10:49
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n1gkewebmaren: It looks good. What is it not doing ?10:49
alsthen put the correct values in10:49
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juanocurs0r_: maybe home works good now lol10:49
juanchito2006juano: S10:49
juanojuanchito2006: decime en que te puedo ayudar?10:50
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webmarenn1gke it's a 1200x800 monitor10:50
alexorangewebmaren: ur vid card is pci express?10:50
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webmarenI'm stuck in 1024x76810:50
kitcheamonkey: you might want to do some googling with that to make sure you set it up correctly10:50
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webmarenalexorange: yes10:50
juanchito2006juano: El monitor se encuentra fuera de frecuencia desde que inicia Ubuntu10:50
n1gkewebmaren: Which OS ?10:50
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juanojuanchito2006: has probado de editar /etc/X11/xorg.conf?10:50
webmarenn1gke... Ubuntu 6.10 Egdy Eft...10:50
n1gkeOk, brb.10:51
raki'm having trouble mounting two ntfs partitions on the same hard drive, is there anything special that i should know?10:51
juanojuanchito2006: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:51
juanchito2006juano: Soy nuevo as que necesito saber todo el procedimiento10:51
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juanojuanchito2006: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:52
juanchito2006juano; En el modo a prueba de fallos?10:52
ZaggynlHow can I give a group rights to an automatically mounted usb device?10:52
alexorangewebmaren: i am not sure if this will work... but i see in ur xorg.conf10:52
kitche!es|juanchito200610:52
alexorange094. BusID"PCI:6:0:0"10:52
ubotujuanchito2006: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.10:52
alexorangebut in the log file it says:10:52
alexorange421. (II) Primary Device is: PCI 06:00:010:52
n1gkewebmaren: Ok, so, whenit barfs, what is it telling you cuz the xorg.conf looks good.10:52
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alexorangeand10:52
alexorange426. (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:6:0:1) found10:52
webmarenn1gke: barfs??10:52
juanojuanchito2006: desde la terminal ejecuta gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorgconf10:52
alexorangetry setting ur BusID to "PCI:6:0:1" in ur xorg10:52
juanoperdon /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:52
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n1gkewebmaren: Yeh, when it fails/barfs, what is the error message as the xorg.conf looks fine.10:53
eegoreI am doing the quake3 point instal and I come up with a crc error, should I trust it or not even though it comes from the id website?10:53
webmarenn1gke: there is no failure10:53
webmarenn1gke: I just can't go to 1200x80010:53
juanojuanchito2006: cuales son los sintomas de que esta "fuera de frecuencia"?10:53
webmarenn1gke and I should be able to10:53
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webmarenand I have to go now10:53
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n1gkeic.... Did you try using default depth 16 ?10:54
n1gkeaw10:54
juanchito2006juano: No hay imagen el monitor muestra que est fuera de frecuencia10:54
spanky_Just a little question about USB devices. How do you upgrade the drivers for them? My system reports "Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods10:54
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spanky_What is bus_type method?10:54
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jimmygoonHelp!! Can you change the passwd of a user w/o user interaction? how?10:54
jimmygoonthanks10:54
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alexorangeuhhh i always thought 'sd' was for scsi10:54
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alexorange:-[10:55
Arrickhow long is Arwen banned for this time?10:55
Music_ShuffleIf I switch out my CPU/Mobo, how's Ubuntu going to react?10:55
kitchejimmygoon: sudo passwd <user> is the only way that I know of to do it is by using root powers10:55
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mc__Music_Shuffle: it depends on how you switch10:55
juanojuanchito2006: verifica que esto este asi en tu /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:55
juanoSection "Monitor"10:55
juanoIdentifier"Generic Monitor"10:55
juanoOption"DPMS"10:55
juanoHorizSync28-6410:55
juanoVertRefresh43-6010:55
juanoEndSection10:55
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kitche!paste|juano10:55
ubotujuano: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)10:55
Seveas!es | juano10:56
ubotujuano: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.10:56
The-Foxcan anyone look at this screenshot ?10:56
The-Foxhttp://img407.imageshack.us/img407/733/ubuntu005iw4.jpg10:56
mc__Music_Shuffle: switching from 64bit do 32 bit will breae everything10:56
The-Foxit's a problem during the instllation10:56
juanosorry! forgot.. forgot10:56
spanky_sd is for SCSI but USB uses it too. I can get it too see the drive but it's painfully slow transfer speeds10:56
ArrickMerry Christmas Seveas10:56
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Music_Shufflemc__, which chips are 32 only?10:56
Music_ShuffleHey its Seveas!10:56
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kitcheThe-Fox: does it work before you install or right when you boot I would say reconfigure xorg with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:57
ZaggynlThe-Fox, eek10:57
mc__Music_Shuffle: all CPU's which are not explicit 64bit10:57
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VerdRouseaucan anyone help me connect to my Photosmart Printer on the network10:57
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The-Foxanyone looked atthe screen ?10:57
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SeveasArrick, until he grows up, so probably never10:57
The-Foxhttp://img407.imageshack.us/img407/733/ubuntu005iw4.jpg10:57
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infidel!irda10:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about irda - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:57
alexorangeyea, looks awful10:57
Arrickahh ok thanks Seveas10:57
juanojuanchito2006: verifica que tu xorg.conf tenga esto : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38808/10:57
Music_ShuffleCan a Pentium D be run using the A64 kernel? Or am I going to have to use the i686 one?10:57
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mc__Music_Shuffle: dunno to be honest10:58
n1gkeThe-Fox: Yeh, looks aweful.10:58
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mc__Music_Shuffle: you should know what you are going to buy10:58
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alexorangeMusic_schuffle: it will not work using AMD kernel10:58
spanky_Has anyone here played with USB HDD's?10:58
The-Foxawfull indeed10:58
kitcheThe-Fox: does it work before you install the install program or right when you boot I would say reconfigure xorg with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:58
The-Foxany suggestions ?10:58
Music_Shufflealexorange, thanks.10:58
alexorangei think the generic kerneal might work10:58
juanchito2006S tambin que hay una utilida para configurar el xorg, pero no me acuerdo cul es10:59
The-Foxit is during the instllation10:59
spanky_How do you upgrade the drivers from USB1.1 to USB2.010:59
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Seveas!es juanchito200610:59
ubotues: An extensible shell based on `rc'. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.90beta1-10.1 (edgy), package size 99 kB, installed size 248 kB10:59
alexorangeThe-Fox: u might have to do the text-based install and then edit the xorg10:59
Seveassigh10:59
juanchito2006Is there any utility to config xorg with ease10:59
Seveaswhich moron, removed es...10:59
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Music_ShuffleSeveas, LOL....10:59
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kitcheSeveas: it works for me11:00
kitche!es|juanchito200611:00
ubotujuanchito2006: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.11:00
rosablub11:00
juanojuanchito2006:  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:00
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Seveashmm11:00
swigridhi all11:00
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Seveaswhich moron coded that bot11:00
juanojuanchito2006: do that in the terminal as root dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:00
Seveasow wait, that's me...11:00
juanchito2006I'll check thanks11:01
The-FoxI don't get into text mode11:01
swigriddoes any body know why i get error message: apt-get autoremove?11:01
Music_ShuffleOk. So...if I'm going to switch to a proc that requires i686 kernel, and I currently have the A64 one, what do I...do?11:01
kitcheThe-Fox: text install is on alternative cd11:01
swigridE: Invalid operation autoremove11:01
juanchito2006!terminal11:01
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands11:01
The-FoxIam using alternative CD11:01
Seveasswigrid, are you on ubuntu 6.06 / dapper?11:01
swigridyes11:01
The-Foxthe AMD64 desktop11:01
Seveasswigrid, that's why :)11:01
swigridooo11:01
swigridcan i fix it?11:01
Seveasautoremove did not exist before 6.10 / edgy11:02
Music_ShuffleSeveas, any thoughts? :X11:02
kitcheThe-Fox: hmm well the alternative cd doesn't have a graphical install so you can't be using it11:02
The-Foxhehe11:02
The-FoxI see11:02
SeveasMusic_Shuffle, lots of'em but none about your problem11:02
Music_ShuffleCurses!11:02
The-Foxso how do I upgrade once I install it ?11:02
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SeveasMusic_Shuffle, you'll need to reinstall11:02
The-Foxor it is the same software only sifferent interface ?11:02
The-Foxdifferent*11:03
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Music_ShuffleSeveas, Ugh, you're not serious, are you?11:03
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SeveasMusic_Shuffle, I am11:03
Seveas64bit and 32bit are completely different11:03
Music_Shuffle./Sigh. Better question then, how do I move my /home folder to another partition? Lol.11:03
swigridthanx for info ;) bye11:04
Music_ShuffleAssuming that will save it >.>11:04
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taigeRtrying to share a printer, any suggestions what I should use?11:04
SeveasMusic_Shuffle, make a new partition and cp -r :)11:04
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Music_ShuffleSeveas, err...so I open gparted, make a new partition, and then...do what again? >.>11:05
NoGoHow can I access my files on my desktop from the LiveCD?11:05
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Savage-{beryl: No GLXFBConfig for depth 32 - Anybody know what this might mean when using the beryl-aiglx beryl-manager?11:05
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kitcheThe-Fox: to upgrade once isntall it's sudo update-manager -c or you can use the alternate cd11:05
fisheyehi11:05
Seveasmkfs -t ext3 /dev/newpartition && mount /dev/newpartion /mnt/bla && cp -r /home/* /mnt/bla11:05
SeveasMusic_Shuffle, something like that ;)11:06
Savage-{I used xserver-xgl before using the aiglx because I wasn't aware that aiglx came with the distro11:06
fisheyei've have this particular freeze, and cant find info on it anywere11:06
fisheyei wonder if anyone had this problem11:06
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The-Foxfisheye: which one ?11:06
The-Foxlook at this11:06
fisheyein boot , it freezes when it gets to checking file systems, fsck1.3911:07
The-Foxhttp://img407.imageshack.us/img407/733/ubuntu005iw4.jpg11:07
The-Foxoahh11:07
fisheyei've reinstaled it , but still same isue11:07
rosacan somebody here help me?11:07
kitcheMusic_Shuffle: mke2fs -j /dev/newpartition && mount /dev/newpartion /mnt/bla && cp -r /home/* /mnt/bla just so you get the correct syntax11:07
kitcheThe-Fox: did you reconfigure xorg yet see if that helps you out?11:07
Music_Shufflekk thanks. ^^11:07
n1gke!ask11:07
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)11:07
rosahow can i change the port for a server in xchat?11:08
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juanoThe-Fox: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:08
fisheyei cant get it to boot normaly.... i've to work tomorow11:08
fisheyeas anyone had this problem?11:08
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The-Foxjuano: when do I do it ?11:08
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Music_ShuffleIn a erminal11:08
Music_Shuffleterminal*11:08
juanoThe-Fox: login as root, init 3, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, init 511:08
The-Foxits during instllation11:09
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n1gkerosa: When you start xchat do you get a list of servers ?11:09
The-FoxI have a few seconds when the boot is loaded11:09
The-Foxthen I get the root login11:09
juanoThe-Fox: that image is at logonn?11:09
The-Foxbut then it jumps into the orange screen11:10
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The-Foxthe image is on a CD11:10
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rosayes, but i want to connect to a bnc-server, so i add it as a new server11:10
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kitcheThe-Fox: you can ctrl+alt+F1 to get to a shell11:10
juanofisheye: what seems to be the problem?11:10
kiradouganhelp11:10
The-Foxkitche: I pressed alt+f111:11
The-Foxto get a shell11:11
The-Foxbut it's not working11:11
juanoThe-Fox: ctrl + alt +(F1 to F5) shell terminals11:11
n1gkerosa: Ok, when the box opens, click on add a server then click on edit to add/change the information.11:11
fisheyejuano: in boot , it freezes when it gets to checking file systems, fsck1.3911:11
SeveasThe-Fox, <ctrl><alt><f1>11:11
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The-FoxI get it11:11
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n1gkerosa: for that server.11:11
fisheyei've reinstaled but no luck11:11
juanofisheye: hows your fstab ?11:12
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juanocan you get into safe mode? fisheye?11:12
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RiyonukConcerning the latest ubuntu release, whats Alternative? Is it like the desktop one but without live cd?11:13
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PriceChild!alternate | Riyonuk11:13
ubotuRiyonuk: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.11:13
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fisheyeijuano: i get here by ctrl alt del on cheking file systems11:13
rosanlgke: i have my new server, but i need to change the port11:13
Riyonukalright, so Im downloading the right thing, thanks!11:13
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juanofisheye: check your /etc/fstab for any corrupt lines11:13
fisheyejuano: will do11:14
juanofisheye: also your /etc/mtab11:14
fisheyejuano: it's strange , i dont find the tool to check my particions in ubuntu, i tought it came with the install11:14
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Music_ShuffleIt does usually.11:14
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Music_Shuffle!gparted11:14
n1gkerosa: Ok. You want to change the port number that your software is connecting to, correct ? I am understanding correctly ?11:14
ubotugparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php11:14
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rosayes11:14
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protocol1Is there a reason why I lost my sound?11:15
juanofisheye: System -> Administration -> System Monitor / file systems11:15
protocol1I just reboot and its gone?11:15
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Black^Dragonquestion,, unable to connect online, and not a nix guru11:15
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Music_Shuffleprotocol1, maybe if you reboot -again-...>.>11:16
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protocol1nope11:16
protocol1did that11:16
n1gkerosa: Ok, when you open or start xchat, there is a box that opens with a list of servers. Click on the server to edit its information, the name of the server and the port number will show up in another box. There you can set the port number.11:16
fisheyejuano: ive opend the system manager11:16
fisheyejuano: cheking fstab11:16
juanofisheye: got to file systems tab11:16
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protocol1its not mutes either...I checked that11:16
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protocol1muted*11:16
fisheyejuano: i'm there11:17
juanothats where you get info on your partitions11:17
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protocol1the cables are plugged in properly....and the sounds do work in windows11:17
fisheyeonly got one, my sytem files particion11:17
protocol1so its not a hardware issue11:17
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fisheyebut fstab has them all11:17
juanofisheye: ok11:18
protocol1and it has worked before...I know that for a fact11:18
n1gkewb rosa11:18
juanofisheye: whats your fstab look like?11:18
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fisheyemmm11:18
protocol1Im just wondering if an update messed with it or what?11:18
fisheyei can i show you withoun spaming this place :)11:18
Black^DragonUbuntu box was online the last time i used it,, now it won't go online,, any ideas, anyone??11:18
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juanofisheye: use this to paste http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org11:18
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juanofisheye: and send me the url11:18
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PriceChildprotocol1, system>preferences>sound Check the correct sound card is selected11:19
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n1gkerosa: Did that help any ?11:19
protocol1is there a command or a procedure I can do to bring my sound settings back to the way they were after a fresh install or something like that11:19
rhatharDear god this is a large channel11:19
fisheyehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38812/11:19
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fisheye:D great site, bookmark11:19
n1gkeWelcome rhathar11:19
rhatharHeya :)11:19
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n1gkeJust be patient is all....11:20
n1gkeIt works well.11:20
taTeCLDoes Ubuntu 6.06 (i ordered it) have GCC?11:20
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fisheyejuano: what do you think. Its almost chinese to me11:20
protocol1I am using the OSS mixer11:20
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protocol1should I try ALSA?11:21
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protocol1but the thing is I been using OSS device and that what it worked with11:21
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rosano, i don't get an box with the portnumber11:21
protocol1why would it loose sound11:21
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juanofisheye: lol, hold on 1 sec, you got windows on 1st HD, then you got linux on other HD?11:22
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taTeCLthanks for the help11:22
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n1gkerosa: You need to edi the server information when the network box opens at start.11:22
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fisheyeyes, i belive so11:23
jpsAnyone here uses linuxmint ?11:23
fisheyeor do I11:23
n1gkerosa: You have the server name already in the xchat network list, yes ?11:23
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RiyonukHi again, how would I install my wireless card into ubuntu? I know it requires something called NDWrapper or something like that, is that already pre-installed with ubuntu?11:23
juanofisheye: everything seems in order in fstab11:23
noelferreira_hi people. hi installed firefox 32 bits in my edgy amd64 system. and every time i start web aplications that use sound i lost the sound from my system aplications. (xmms totem and so on ...) any help?11:23
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fisheyejuano: i'm doomed11:23
juanofisheye: mm and whats the syntoms of this error?11:23
fisheyejuano : :)11:23
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rosai try again, cu11:23
juanofisheye: can you boot up in normal mode? safe mode?11:23
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fisheyewell, all i have is not being able to boot properly11:24
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Hellevatorhi all. I just purchased a second WD 320gb hard drive to go along with my current wd 320gb hd.  I want to set up the two drives in a RAID 0 array.  Is there any way to salvage the operating system installs on my current hard drive so I don't have to reinstall everything from scratch?11:24
fisheyei cant, but when it gets to checking foile systems i have to crtl alt del to kill the process11:24
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fisheyei can i can11:24
rosahm11:24
fisheyebut i have to do what i said11:24
RiyonukHi again, how would I install my wireless card into ubuntu? I know it requires something called NDWrapper or something like that, is that already pre-installed with ubuntu?11:24
Gebel!gpg11:25
ubotugpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto11:25
juanofisheye: mm, thats wierd, have you googled this?11:25
fisheyeyes11:25
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fisheyeover and over11:26
jpshellevator>yes there is, like making an image of your hard drive...  but believe me, its better to do a fresh install11:26
rosai get this box, but if i click on a server, i don't get another box but connect there11:26
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fisheyethe problem is, i even reinstaled ....11:26
fisheyeand still no luck11:26
oidiaRiyonuk: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Windows_Wireless_Drivers_.28Ndiswrapper.2911:26
Hellevatorjps, what are the disadvantages to imaging your hard drive?11:26
Riyonukwoo-hoo, someones to help :p11:26
fisheyethat fsck 1.39 just sits there.... i let it be for more then 20 minutes last time11:26
protocol1IM going to try ALSA11:27
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Gebel!sources11:27
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource11:27
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protocol1can two audio devices cause a conflict?11:27
jpshellevator> the logisics of it are crumbersome.... like where are you going to backup the data etc.... if I were you I would create your raid array and install over.. it would be more reliable...11:28
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jpslogistics11:28
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Hellevatorjps, i have an external hard drive i can place the images on.11:28
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juanofisheye: well i found 1 wierd thing in your fstab11:29
juanofisheye: dont see the entry for the swap partition11:29
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fisheyemmm11:29
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fisheyei've one11:29
fisheyehdb611:29
Hellevatorjps, I'm also worried about my windows xp cd key getting rejected.  I've already reinstalled windows xp 3 times activating with the same cd key.  Isn't there a limit to how many times you can do that?11:29
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fisheyeat least it shold be11:29
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Gebel!keys11:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about keys - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:30
jpsif you have an ext hd, then copy your files to it... and do a cleanslate with the wds.... its easier and you will like it better... i sugest partition linux using reiserfs, if you use ext3 youll se it much faster11:30
fisheyehow do i had the sawp thingy?11:30
mweHellevator: there is not limit11:30
Gebel!source11:30
ubotuYou can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html11:30
juanofisheye: nevermind, i think it doesnt go in there anyway11:30
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Hellevatormwe, ok thanks.11:30
jpsas for windows, i believe that you only have problems if you move to another machine11:31
mweHellevator: you can reinstall everyday if you like. they might wonder why you do it but it's your right11:31
juanofisheye: mm ill try to come with something up11:31
fisheyejuano: thanks11:31
burnerjps: you hear about hans reiser?  dude is alleged to have murdered his wife!11:31
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fisheyei'll try and get gparted ...11:31
Hellevatormwe, how do they know I'm not doing it on different computers?11:31
fisheyecant sem to find it , need to put some more repositories i think11:31
mweHellevator: the hw id11:31
jpsburner> i guess it means even supposed murders can make good filesystems11:31
nolimitsoyacould anyone point me to a multinetwork p2p client that integrates well with ubuntu? (and is relativley easy to set up and use)11:31
rambo3ftp11:32
burnerjps: but the support in the future is questionable, and ext3 is so much more versatile in terms of resizing/moving/reading from windows11:32
Gebel!apt-key11:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about apt-key - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:32
RiyonukCan anyone recomend a iso burner in windows? Maybe a free one?11:32
Hellevatormwe, but the hw id will be changing won't it? since I'm installing it on a raid setup instead of the single sata drive...11:32
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burnerRiyonuk: imgburn11:32
Hellevatornolimitsoya, bittorrent?11:32
Hellevatornolimitsoya, frostwire11:32
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nolimitsoyaRiyonuk, infrarecorder11:32
mweHellevator: I think they have a seperate id for the MOBO and stuff11:32
jpsburner> reiser3 is rock solid.... writing in an ext3 with windows using fsdrivers... i dont like very much11:33
nolimitsoyaHellevator, bittorrent isnt what im looking for, but ill check out frostwire :)11:33
juanofisheye: check this out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/10/12/tuning-the-filesystem-check-at-bootup/11:33
burnermy girlfriends uses windows about 99% of the time and uses nad ext3 filesystem with fs-driver.org reliably :P11:33
nolimitsoyajps, i wouldnt call any filesystem with as much broken behaviour as reiser3 'rock solid' :)11:33
mweHellevator: anyway as long as you don't install it on different computers you're allowed to reinstall as often as you like11:33
Riyonukok thanks11:33
RiyonukNow I found my card on ndiswrappers list of supported cards, now what?11:34
Hellevatormse, awesome thanks.11:34
infidelanyone here use irda?11:34
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n1gken2diy: Are you using an SSID with the APRS ? I can't see you on my map yet.11:34
jpsnolimit> I didn`t experience any problems... even in datacenters... reiserfs3 is  much older than say ext3(even though ext3 is built on top of ext2)11:34
fisheyejuano: this is great11:34
fisheyejuano: but still, it delays the problem... this checking filesytems shouldnt take so long11:35
nolimitsoyajps, then you need to do some googling :) reiser3 is broken by design11:35
fisheyejuano: and why the heek dont i have the manager of particions already instaleed ??11:35
juanofisheye: the problem is that it checks every partition11:36
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juanofisheye: thats why it delays11:36
jpsanyone here uses amarok? is there a way to download songs from the magnatune store? (instead of streaming)11:36
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fisheyejuano: stiil, whyle it checks it should give me an indication of what its doings and the harddrive light just blink... and nothing11:37
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juanofisheye:  go into synaptic and search gparted, install that11:37
fisheyeshould blink11:37
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juanofisheye: also , go to repositories and put on multi-verse and universe11:37
fisheyejuano : i'm tryng :)11:37
fisheyebut i got 82 updates on the line ...11:38
RiyonukHow does one install linux drivers? Is it just a double click thing?11:38
fisheyebut i'll thry that nxt11:38
Music_ShuffleUsually, or a guide.11:38
fisheyei went to the ad programs and it didint find gparted11:38
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fisheyewell check other repositories11:38
fisheyejuano: thank you so much for this11:38
juanofisheye: check multi-verse and universe and every repository11:38
juanofisheye: no prob11:39
nolimitsoyafisheye, just type 'sudo apt-get install gparted' in a terminal. its in main11:39
archangelpetrohow do i play DVDs on ubuntu amd64?/11:39
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nolimitsoya!dvd | archangelpetro11:39
ubotuarchangelpetro: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages11:39
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spanky_Hi there. Anyone know how to upgrade USB drivers from 1.1 to 2.0?11:40
fisheyenolimitsoya: i tried that, didnt get it11:40
nolimitsoyaarchangelpetro, it may not work at all... loads of things are broken in amd64...11:40
juanofisheye: tried synaptic?11:40
nolimitsoyafisheye, then you have aproblem, for sure :)11:40
archangelpetro:/11:40
nolimitsoyafisheye, how does your sources.list look?11:40
fisheyeyes i do....11:40
fisheyelooks good, kinda fat because of xmas sweets11:40
fisheye:)11:41
ZaggynlAnyone has a working mpd 12.1 for dapper? with all formats supported?11:41
fisheyehave no ideia what it looks like11:41
fisheyewere is the darn thing?11:41
juanofisheye:  lolll... haha, did you click reload in synaptic?11:41
nolimitsoyafisheye, /etc/apt/sources.list11:41
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fisheyestill cant touch it, it upgrading a buch of things11:42
rosahm11:42
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fisheyehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38817/11:43
fisheyelooks like this nolimitsoya11:43
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spanky_Hi there. Anyone know how to upgrade USB drivers from 1.1 to 2.0?11:43
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nolimitsoyafisheye, then 'sudo apt-get install gparted' should definatly work11:43
nolimitsoya*e11:44
fisheyei'll do it as soon as updates are complete11:44
cafuego_spanky_: uh, that makes no sense11:44
nolimitsoyafisheye, cut and paste this as soon as all the updating is through 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install gparted'11:44
fisheyeit would be faster if i wasnt dowloading so much pron11:44
fisheyewill do11:44
fisheyethank soya11:44
spanky_cafuego: I have a new USB HDD and the device Manager tells me it's running USB 1.1 instead of 2.0 at 12Mbps....PAINFULLY slow11:45
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nolimitsoyafisheye, you realy should uncomment the security repo :)11:45
cafuego_spanky_: ubuntu comes with both usb 2 and 1.1 drivers. depending on what controller is detected and how you've got the bios set up, it may load one or the other.11:45
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rosai still don't get the port number changed ;-)11:46
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Ryugihello11:46
Ryugimerry christmas everyone11:46
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Ryugican the sound blaster xfi sound card work in ubuntu?11:47
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LinTuxhow do I install the standard KDE desktop in terminal11:49
theflyingfoolhow do i check if my nick got registered11:49
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fisheyenolimitsoya : uncomet security, bah, who need security!11:50
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eegoreok I got quake 3 arena working11:50
eegoreon edgy 6411:50
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LinTuxhow do I install the standard KDE desktop in terminal11:52
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Music_Shufflesudo apt-get kdm?11:52
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LinTuxhow do I install the standard KDE desktop in terminal, without installing the Kubuntu desktop11:53
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theflyingfoolis there a way for me to check if my nick registration worked?11:53
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fisheyenick registration? in irc?11:54
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iustin85where is the default webspace for apache server in ubuntu 6.10 LAMP ?11:54
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theflyingfoolyeah in irc11:54
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LorenXo@lintux, have you tried "sudo apt-get install kde" ?11:54
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iustin85hello .... plz help me, you could tell me where do i have to upload my files so my apache to serve them ?11:55
dreamfireiustin85: /var/www (just guessing)11:55
tonyyarusso!kde | LinTux11:55
ubotuLinTux: KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE11:55
tonyyarussoistenber: /var/www/11:55
iustin85ty, dreamer i`ll try!11:55
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zzzerotimehi11:56
protocol1I really need to find out why my sound stopped11:56
tonyyarussoblah, mine was at iustin85 as well11:56
zzzerotimehow can I edit gnome menu?11:56
zzzerotimeis there an app to do it?11:56
zzzerotimethere are 2 icons I want to remove11:56
protocol1working*11:56
LinTuxThanks everyone, Merry Christmas to All !!!!!11:56
tonyyarussozzzerotime: System > Preferences > Menu Layout11:56
compengihttp://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore?family=iPodnano11:56
compengiups11:56
compengisorry11:56
compengiwrong window11:56
protocol1LinTux, Merry X-mas11:56
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compengican i specify through postfix the sender's name (sender's email address)?11:56
LorenXoMerry Xmas to all11:57
haxalityhello, I want to assign hotkeys to launch some of my common programs.11:57
haxalityhow would I do this in gnome?11:57
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ZaggynlI'm using the latest mpd, and it won't read my files :(11:57
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zzzerotimeperfect thanx11:57
Zaggynlno errors, no logs11:57
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tonyyarussocompengi: If you mean on a one-time basis, no idea.  If you mean in general, I'd poke through the config file and hope for the best.  (I know, not a great answer, but I don't know)11:57
RiyonukI see that ndiswrapper supports my wireless card, how do I get it to work?11:57
fisheyetheflyingfool: just disconect and conect again, if it asks you for the password, you have done it11:57
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LinTuxwhat is the best way to optimize my hard drive?11:58
TSCHAKhello everyone. I am having difficulty all of a sudden with NetworkManager...the applet fails to connect to a  network almost immediately after selecting it... the swirl stops for a moment, then it flips back to no connection11:58
TSCHAKalthough I can select the network manually with iwconfig and dhclient, what gives?11:58
TSCHAKit keeps telling me it can't connect to the wpa_supplicant.11:58
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TSCHAKI didn't mess with any of the configuration, it's just... one day, it was working...now it's broke.11:59
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Nippoojoin #wikicast11:59
Nippooagh11:59
Nippoosorry, forgot the slash =)11:59
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protocol1would anyone know why I would loose my sound?12:00
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protocol1everything is connected properly.....nothings muted12:00
PriceChildprotocol1, did you follow my suggestion earlier?12:00
protocol1as I check it in windows12:00
fisheyemaybe you didint, maybe you jsut lost your ears12:00
fisheye:)12:00

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