[12:13] <Dr_willis> heh heh,
[12:13] <LeeJunFan> anyone tried sun's looking glass yet? I can't imagine a java app being good for a desktop, nor it being even comparable to beryl.
[12:13] <Dr_willis> ya hear interfearance?
[12:13] <Dr_willis> LeeJunFan,  i think i saw a demo ages ago.. but that was the last ive seen it.
[12:13] <Ace2016> yea
[12:15] <Dr_willis> amazing thing with 'Sun' they have all these cool demos and things.. that just seem to vanish.
[12:15] <Dr_willis> :)
[12:15] <Ace2016> well it works, and i know before i get a text, its much better than the light up keyboard, you can hear it
[12:16] <Dr_willis> check that cat feeder demo.. the guy is using a Ubuntu box.. and sshing into it.. then used the 'eject' command to make the cdrom drive trip a lever. :)
[12:17] <lotusleaf> but can it make cats?
[12:17] <Dr_willis> http://www.sun.com/software/looking_glass/demo.xml
[12:17] <Dr_willis> It makes cats appear.... :) they come running.
[12:17] <Ace2016> add second cat of the opposite sex which is released via an ssh command :D
[12:17] <mewantBeryl> where does konquerer and firefox store their bookmarks? is there a bookmark folder somewhere, i'm trying to copy the bookmarks onto a different comp and there's a whole bunch of bookmarks
[12:18] <lotusleaf> mewantBeryl: locate bookmarks.html
[12:18] <Dr_willis> Ive seen all these 3d-desktop type things now for a while.. and well.. I just dont see how it makes my desktop-ussage better.... I must be old-skool.
[12:18] <lotusleaf> mewantBeryl: just import the file
[12:18] <lotusleaf> mewantBeryl: export/import are your friends
[12:18] <mewantBeryl> mewantBeryl do u mean type at konsole: locate bookmarks.html? sorry kinda new at this
[12:18] <Ace2016> konqueror has it in ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/
[12:19] <mewantBeryl> oops i meant to type lotusleaf: do you mean type at konsole: locate bookmarks.html? sorry kinda new at this
[12:19] <mewantBeryl> Ace2016 cool thx i'll check that out too
[12:19] <lotusleaf> mewantBeryl: sure, at the command line
[12:19] <lotusleaf> mewantBeryl: but no need to search around, just export your bookmarks as .html and import them as .html
[12:19] <mewantBeryl> ltousleaf is that for both firefox and konquerer?
[12:19] <lotusleaf> mewantBeryl: that way you don't have to worry about paths
[12:20] <mewantBeryl> lotusleaf ok cool
[12:20] <lotusleaf> mewantBeryl: most browsers have the ability to import/export and yes both of those browsers included
[12:20] <mewantBeryl> lotusleaf thx
[12:20] <lotusleaf> mewantBeryl: yw
[12:20] <mewantBeryl> lotusleaf cool thx =)
[12:20] <lotusleaf> mewantBeryl: yw
[12:21] <malik__> any solution to change ntfs data drive to ext3 without formatting and damaging the data?
[12:22] <Dr_willis> good luck. :)
[12:22] <Ace2016> malik__: didn't you ask about this yesterday? weren't you going to use some app to convert it from within windows?
[12:22] <Sanne> malik__: I'm highly doubtful that can be done
[12:23] <malik__> yes i was but couldnt be bothered to restart my comp into windows:) heheheheh
[12:23] <mewantBeryl> lotusleaf how do i import/export =)
[12:23] <Ace2016> lol
[12:24] <lotusleaf> konqueror -> Bookmarks -> Edit -> File -> Import or Export
[12:24] <lotusleaf> mewantBeryl: similar for Firefox, just look at the bookmarks options
[12:24] <mewantBeryl> lotusleaf o duh thx =)
[12:24] <lotusleaf> mewantBeryl: the help sections are also cool =)
[12:24] <lotusleaf> mewantBeryl: yw
[12:24] <mewantBeryl> lotusleaf hehe i feel so retarded asking that question lol
[12:25] <lotusleaf> mewantBeryl: this channel is for questions
[12:25] <mewantBeryl> lotusleaf cool =)
[12:25] <lotusleaf> (=
[12:25] <Dr_willis> lotusleaf,  heh heh..  i  was thinking somthing  similer to that.. but a bit more rude. :)
[12:28] <liviux> hi all and Merry christmas!
[12:30] <brianw> Merry X-mas to you as well :)
[12:30] <brianw> ok, so how do I go about getting nvidia 9.x drivers?
[12:31] <apokryphos> !nvidia
[12:31] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:31] <RealisticDragon> on christmas? ;)
[12:31] <lotusleaf> brianw: I install the newest drivers from the nvidia site using a guide I found linked from ubuntu forums
[12:31] <RealisticDragon> oops, says the guy on IRC :P
[12:32] <brianw> I would rather keep it done through the package manager
[12:32] <lotusleaf> brianw: you can do that, too =)
[12:32] <RealisticDragon> those instructions use the package manager i think
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[12:37] <cntb>  /home/user/.mozilla/firefox/ntrtm5u6.default mewantBeryl
[12:38] <cntb> was mewantBeryl some bot?
[12:38] <cntb> lupine_85, ?
[12:43] <fdoving> !sound | bork
[12:43] <ubotu> bork: If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[12:43] <vladi> which file do i need to edit to make a drive mount every time? i forgot
[12:44] <fdoving> vladi: /etc/fstab
[12:44] <fdoving> !fstab
[12:44] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[12:44] <vladi> yup thats the one cheers
[12:50] <vladi> does anyone here use the beta nvidia drivers, and if so do you use build 9631 or 9742?
[12:51] <crazy_bus> I installed ubuntu, and then the kubuntu package to get KDE, however KDE now seems to be a weird hybrid.  When ever I click on something on my KDE bar, it disappears for a split second. Also when I switch desktops the icons on the KDE bar flicker.  Does anyone know how to fix this?
[12:52] <RealisticDragon> did you install kubuntu desktop?
[12:52] <RealisticDragon> or just the KDE package?
[12:52] <RealisticDragon> (if you arent sure try installing kubuntu-desktop with adept and see if it makes any changes)
[12:53] <crazy_bus> kubuntu-desktop
[12:54] <RealisticDragon> hm, should work then :/
[12:54] <RealisticDragon> im afraid i dont know crazy_bus, sorry
[12:54] <Burkan> or sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop in your terminal
[12:55] <Burkan> or "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" in your terminal
[12:56] <RealisticDragon> the other thing thats worth a try is restarting the X server
[12:56] <Burkan> I think this page can help you http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_KDE
[12:59] <crazy_bus> I'm sorry about that.  Does anyone know how to fix my problem?
[01:02] <bork> root@borkie:/proc/asound# cat /proc/asound/cards
[01:02] <bork> --- no soundcards ---
[01:07] <crazy_bus> I installed ubuntu, and then installed the package kubuntu-desktop to get KDE.  However now my KDE is different from when I did a straight kubuntu install.  Some of the things look half GNOME.  Also when you click on things in the KDE bar, they flicker.  Does anyone know how to fix this?
[01:09] <BluesKaj> Merry Christmas to All who celebrate it ! :)
[01:10] <joshual> just installed vmware server its asking to connect to a host... not sure how to proceed... help?
[01:13] <RealisticDragon> you need a vmware image i think... maybe their website or support can help :)
[01:14] <joshual> first you need to connect then you need an image
[01:16] <BluesKaj> !vmware
[01:16] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). Instructions for VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[01:19] <Dr_willis> localhost is the 'current' machine is what ya want
[01:19] <Dr_willis> if you got vmware server on several machines they can view the servers/sessions running on other machines also.
[01:20] <joshual> Dr_willis: it's on one machine... but I don't know how to get it to connect with localhost
[01:20] <Dr_willis> thats the default...
[01:20] <RealisticDragon> localhost ip is 127.0.0.1
[01:20] <Dr_willis> just hit next, or whatever..
[01:20] <joshual> ok ill try
[01:20] <Dr_willis> you are making it too complex.. :)
[01:21] <joshual> what about username and password?
[01:21] <Dr_willis> just click 'connect'
[01:21] <joshual> Unable to connect to the remote host: Cannot connect to host 127.0.0.1: Connection refused.
[01:21] <Dr_willis> localhost  is the default.. then 'connect' is all i have to do
[01:21] <Dr_willis> if your vmware server is running I guess...
[01:21] <joshual> i dont know if i entered the registration ingo
[01:22] <joshual> info
[01:22] <Dr_willis> You never entered the serial # for vmware server that ya got from their web site?
[01:22] <joshual> no it hasnt asked
[01:23] <jim__> Simple question... how can i associate *.url file types with my web browsers (konquer/firefox)? i have alot of *.url hyperlink files. i set firefox as the default prgrom to open the file type, but it just opens the file instead of hyperlinking to the website.
[01:25] <Dr_willis> I would guess you some how missed a large part of the isntall then.
[01:28] <joshual> Dr_willis: i have the license... i installed running:  sudo  ./vmware-install.pl
[01:28] <Dr_willis> It should of compiled some stuff and asked a dozen+ questions - then asked for that serial #
[01:29] <joshual> yah I've isntalled on other distributions, and it did then, but this time it didnt run the config, so I tried to run it manually, and it said it was complete
[01:37] <joshual> Dr_willis: maybe i downloaded the wrong package
[01:38] <Dr_willis> ive always just downloaded, untared, cded to the dir. and ran that script.
[01:38] <joshual> there are more then one to download though
[01:38] <Dr_willis> theres other packages needed to beinstalled beforhand also so it can compile the modules
[01:45] <crazy_bus> Does anyone know how to set up a wireless network between kubuntu and Windows XP to share files?
[01:49] <RealisticDragon> have a look at samba crazy_bus
[01:49] <RealisticDragon> !samba
[01:49] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:49] <RealisticDragon> for wireless networks there is stuff here
[01:49] <RealisticDragon> !wireless
[01:49] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:50] <MasterLexx> hey
[01:50] <MasterLexx> can one run kubuntu with 256 mb ram, or should i stick with xubuntu?
[01:50] <crazy_bus> thank you.  I just thought about something.  I'm running the wirless router, but I don't personally have a wireless card connected to my computer.  Can I still network?
[01:51] <RealisticDragon> your wireless router has some wired ports on it... is that how you are connecting to the internet crazy_bus?
[01:52] <RealisticDragon> MasterLexx: not tried it with less than 512, you can test it with the livecd? or install kubuntu-desktop in xubuntu and if it doesnt work change back to xfce :)
[01:52] <MasterLexx> i just wonder what's better for my 800- MHz laptop with 256 mb ram
[01:53] <MasterLexx> so i thought xfce is faster and uses less memory?
[01:53] <MasterLexx> what special advantages does kde have?
[01:53] <RealisticDragon> yup
[01:53] <crazy_bus> My computer is connected with a wire to the router.  The router is then connected to a adsl modem with a wire.
[01:53] <RealisticDragon> hmm its a bit more featureful MasterLexx
[01:53] <RealisticDragon> crazy_bus: and the router also talks to the wireless clients?
[01:53] <MasterLexx> i heard of an kde x remote terminal ors omething?
[01:54] <RealisticDragon> then your linux machine can talk to the wireless network
[01:54] <LBB> Happy hollydays all!!
[01:54] <RealisticDragon> MasterLexx: you can log in remotley with xfce as well :) and you can run kde apps in xfce if you wish
[01:55] <soulrider> MasterLexx: you can use the live CD with 128 mb of RAM
[01:55] <soulrider> even if its Kubuntu
[01:55] <MasterLexx> hmm i wonder what's better
[01:55] <soulrider> MasterLexx: xfce will be lighter
[01:55] <crazy_bus> Laptops, with wireless cards can connect to the internet via the router.  Is that what you mean RealisticDragon?
[01:55] <soulrider> is this the first time using linux ?
[01:56] <lotusleaf> soulrider: openbox is lighter still
[01:56] <RealisticDragon> yes crazy_bus, everything that connects to the internet via the router should be able to talk fine :)
[01:56] <soulrider> never tried it lotusleaf
[01:56] <MasterLexx> this Desktop Sharing Framework is the same as VNC?
[01:56] <lotusleaf> soulrider: openbox blackbox fluxbox we all love *box
[01:56] <crazy_bus> Thank you
[01:56] <soulrider> ah
[01:56] <soulrider> last night i tried enlightment
[01:56] <RealisticDragon> np
[01:56] <soulrider> but i didnt like it
[01:57] <MasterLexx> i tried all 3 ubuntus in vmware.... they are the same.... practically
[01:57] <soulrider> yeah
[01:57] <soulrider> MasterLexx: if youre starting with linux m,aybe its better if you use KDE and then switch to XFCE
[01:57] <soulrider> i think that it iwll probably be friendlier
[01:57] <MasterLexx> maybe
[01:58] <crazy_bus> I installed ubuntu.  And then installed kubuntu-desktop to get KDE.  However KDE now seem different from when it was when I did a straight kubuntu install.  Does anyone know anything about this?
[01:58] <lotusleaf> soulrider: or use KDE and stay with KDE :)
[01:58] <soulrider> yeah
[01:58] <lotusleaf> soulrider: #xubuntu exists ;)
[01:58] <soulrider> but he has a slower comp, i dont know if it runs wells on slower comps
[01:58] <soulrider> i know i know
[01:59] <soulrider> but KDE is friendlier than XFCE
[01:59] <soulrider> so maybe it eases the switch
[01:59] <lotusleaf> soulrider: slow computers work well with things like xfce, openbox, fluxbox, blackbox, icewm, etc.
[01:59] <crazy_bus> Icons on the KDE bar, flicker.  Things look half gnome.  It annoys me.
[01:59] <lotusleaf> soulrider: I install several window managers for people then let them choose if they're new ;)
[02:00] <soulrider> yeah, thats an option too
[02:00] <lotusleaf> *and have slow computers, that is, otherwise I have them stick with one desktop environment until they know how to dance with happy feet and strong toes
[02:01] <LBB> I made my system unbootable :(     I uninstalled apache wich broke mysql. Now my system hangs at "Starting MySQL database server: mysqld"
[02:01] <joshual> I screwed up apt/aptitude by closing adept while it was trying to install something... now I can't use apt at all... how can I repair this issue?
[02:02] <LBB> joshual can you use apt from the commandline?
[02:02] <Robby> hi
[02:02] <joshual> LBB I can, and do... but it's broken... I need to fix it
[02:03] <crazy_bus> Would it be better to set up a network, on windows and connect to in via kubuntu.  Or the other way round?
[02:03] <Robby> What is the best package when I want to see  Macromedia Flash in Firefox?  There are many... and I am not sure what version of Flash I get.... here is the URL::               http://pastebin.com/844913
[02:03] <LBB> joshoal: I was gonna sugest a reinstall of adept trough apt....
[02:03] <dwidmann> crazy_bus: either way should work
[02:03] <lotusleaf> Robby: adobe's site and get flash 9 beta 2
[02:04] <dwidmann> http://labs.adobe.com
[02:04] <Robby> ok
[02:04] <Robby> what are the packages in the backports for
[02:04] <Robby> ?
[02:04] <joshual> theyre bleeding edge
[02:05] <dwidmann> Robby: they're newer than the ones in the main repositories
[02:05] <LBB> anyone know if it is possible to change the startup-script of a kubuntu when it is not bootable
[02:05] <LBB> (via a live-cd)
[02:06] <dwidmann> LBB: perfectly possible, it's just a matter of which startup script, there are dozens
[02:06] <MasterLexx> is 800 MHz slow?
[02:07] <dwidmann> MasterLexx: by todays standards, most definitely
[02:07] <LBB> dwidmann: i need to remove the line that points to mysql, so i can boot my system to the commandline and reinstall my broken packages
[02:07] <MasterLexx> wahhh, windows is better there....... one desktop for all
[02:08] <lotusleaf> !windows
[02:08] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[02:08] <soulrider> LOL
[02:08] <dwidmann> LBB: I would chroot into the partition, what you'll need to do is something like "update-rc.d remove mysql"
[02:09] <isede> how do i set the ENV for gems i install through rubygems to be available for the interpreter?
[02:10] <LBB> dwidmann how do i do that?
[02:11] <dwidmann> LBB: to chroot into a partition, first make a directory (while running from the livecd), "sudo mkdir /target", then "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /target" (or whatever partition your linux installation is on), then "chroot /target", it will then show you as root@ubuntu#. From there you can do the "update-rc.d mysql remove"
[02:12] <LBB> dwidmann: thanks I'll go and try that!
[02:15] <benni> I've got a question. Would the performance under desktop slow down if i did not installed the display driver?
[02:15] <dwidmann> depends
[02:15] <LBB> benni: depends on wich desktop you're using
[02:15] <benni> kde 3.5
[02:16] <dwidmann> It depends on what card you have, and what display driver you're using
[02:16] <benni> i'm using the firexgl driver and my card is a radeon 9600xt
[02:16] <dwidmann> If you've got an nvidia card, at least in my experience, things lag with the nv and vesa drivers ..
[02:17] <dwidmann> hmmm, I hear some of the ati cards do pretty well with the open source drivers
[02:17] <benni> hm... okay thank you.
[02:17] <dwidmann> I forget how well radeons fare, I suppose you're okay if you don't want to do _anything_ 3d
[02:17] <VR_> everyone, im in distress.
[02:18] <VR_> is it just me, or did the wiki get chaned around
[02:18] <dwidmann> VR_: that's common in support rooms
[02:18] <dwidmann> Hmm, the wiki changed around? Which page(s)?
[02:18] <VR_> bwhahah
[02:18] <VR_> the, what's it called...
[02:18] <VR_> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:18] <malik__> which one is best p2p client............frostwire/amule/xmule/mldonkey?
[02:19] <VR_> malik__, p2p is kind of... old, Sir.
[02:20] <VR_> dwidmann, my problem is this: the codecs that are kubuntu-specific, arent listed on the wiki anymore like they used to be
[02:21] <VR_> and that's sort of ruining the holidays for me, yes?
[02:21] <dwidmann> Which ones do you need?
[02:21] <PR006> hi all
[02:21] <VR_> all of them
[02:21] <daniel7> ola
[02:21] <dwidmann> hi PR006
[02:21] <daniel7> hi
[02:21] <daniel7> to everyone
[02:21] <dwidmann> VR_: you probably want libxine-extracodecs
[02:21] <VR_> i had a bash script that installs everything for me, but i lost that, and am trying to make a new one, but i forgot the names of the packages.
[02:21] <VR_> yeah, i know that one... but there's a bunch of other stuff too
[02:22] <daniel7> who here can help me a little with automatix?
[02:22] <VR_> w32codecs is also easy to get...
[02:22] <daniel7> i just installed ubuntu... my first linux :D
[02:22] <apokryphos> !automatix
[02:22] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[02:22] <joshual> yo
[02:22] <apokryphos> daniel7: nothing beats the easy documentation and FAQ :)
[02:22] <daniel7> ubotu es un boot?
[02:22] <ubotu> es: An extensible shell based on `rc'. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.90beta1-10.1 (edgy), package size 99 kB, installed size 248 kB
[02:23] <apokryphos> daniel7: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[02:23] <apokryphos> !bot
[02:23] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:23] <daniel7> jejejej ty
[02:23] <daniel7> ok so NO automatix ;) but how I install programs?
[02:23] <daniel7> userful ones
[02:23] <malik__> VR_: that may be the case but there is alotta stuff like single file mp3z which cant be fount on torrents ................thats why i wanna know which one is good client in linux
[02:24] <Admiral_Chicago> how do i change channels again in irssi
[02:24] <VR_> malik__, i can tell you i hated amule to death.
[02:24] <VR_> Admiral_Chicago, alt+left/right
[02:24] <VR_> Admiral_Chicago, OR alt+#
[02:24] <malik__> what abt xmule or emule?
[02:24] <VR_> malik__, never used those, son
[02:24] <Admiral_Chicago> VR_: maybe i'm going something wring
[02:25] <Admiral_Chicago> neither of those work
[02:25] <VR_> Admiral_Chicago, you're not... which terminal are you using?
[02:25] <VR_> gnome-terminal? konsole?
[02:25] <Admiral_Chicago> gnome-terminal
[02:25] <Admiral_Chicago> i forgot I'm on GNOME
[02:25] <VR_> yeah, thats the problem
[02:25] <Admiral_Chicago> lol I know it's a problem
[02:25] <VR_> you can switch by using /win 1 to go to window # 1
[02:26] <VR_> Admiral_Chicago, i recommend rxvt-unicode for irssi
[02:26] <malik__> wokie then what abt frostwire(limewire clone) or ml donkey (edonkey clone)
[02:26] <Admiral_Chicago> i really don't know what that means...
[02:26] <Admiral_Chicago> i just started using this like today
[02:27] <CSonicGo>  I swear I thought I'd never use ALL my USB slots.  but I successfully have. I need to use my hub, I guess... I bought two for my old IBM to have 8 slots. :D
[02:27] <VR_> Admiral_Chicago, rxvt-unicode is another terminal emulator
[02:27] <malik__> plus can some one tell me how to change ntfs data drive into ext3 without formatting and dsamaging data on it?
[02:27] <Admiral_Chicago> oh i see.
[02:27] <Admiral_Chicago> well the thing is, I have gnome running on a 3 Gb partition
[02:27] <VR_> Admiral_Chicago, it's a bit better than gnome-terminal, more light-weight and displays those screwy characters a lot better
[02:27] <PR006> bye all
[02:27] <Admiral_Chicago> so I really can't install anything
[02:27] <CSonicGo> malik__: NTFS support is still up in the air.
[02:28] <VR_> Admiral_Chicago, yes you can. you can start Synaptic and install software from there.
[02:28] <VR_> Admiral_Chicago, type "gksudo synaptic" in a terminal, enter the password and choose what you wanna install
[02:28] <VR_> without the quotes, of course
[02:28] <malik__> i think in windows with partitionb magic we can do that............any i dea?
[02:29] <malik__> i just wanna change my ntfs to ext3 data drive
[02:29] <Admiral_Chicago> I know how to do all that VR_, I'm fairly competant with Ubuntu, just not IRSSI
[02:29] <VR_> Admiral_Chicago, once you get used to irssi, you'll hate everything else
[02:29] <daniel7> look, someone can help me a little
[02:29] <daniel7> plz
[02:30] <Admiral_Chicago> I usually use Konversation
[02:30] <daniel7> it's short, i need to instal TIGHT VNC and i don't know what version
[02:30] <daniel7> http://www.tightvnc.com/download.html
[02:30] <daniel7> :S
[02:30] <VR_> Admiral_Chicago, konversation is bad, Sir
[02:30] <Admiral_Chicago> I've used that, Xchat a bit. I like Konversation the best
[02:31] <VR_> irssi owns all, though
[02:31] <CSonicGo> konversation isn't THAT bad.
[02:31] <Admiral_Chicago> bitchx in a pintch as well
[02:31] <CSonicGo> then again I used Xircon for years.
[02:31] <VR_> konversation is bad? mkay?
[02:32] <CSonicGo> well it's GUI :X
[02:32] <daniel7> please someone send me a private mensage telling how to install a program in ubuntu...
[02:32] <VR_> yeah, who uses a gui for irc, come on
[02:32] <CSonicGo> I do
[02:32] <CSonicGo> :D
[02:32] <VR_> CSonicGo, im on mirc right now heheh
[02:32] <CSonicGo> I'm not 1337  :(
[02:32] <malik__> daniel7: what are u trying o do?
[02:32] <VR_> and it SUCKS!!
[02:32] <CSonicGo> rofl
[02:32] <VR_> i havent used windows in ages man
[02:32] <CSonicGo> I just got off of windows
[02:32] <VR_> but i broke my install and said... i could install windows again
[02:33] <daniel7> malik__ install tight vnc...
[02:33] <Black5un> tightvncserver_1.2.9-21_i386.deb
[02:34] <malik__> daniel7: what kinda comp u r using?
[02:34] <enyawix> SATA2 drive who makes a good one?
[02:34] <malik__> amd or pentium or mac?
[02:34] <Black5un> p4 3.2
[02:34] <daniel7> i don't see a .deb :S
[02:35] <daniel7> balck5un, i only read  .rpm
[02:35] <Admiral_Chicago> !alien | daniel7
[02:35] <ubotu> daniel7: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[02:35] <Black5un> http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/t/tightvnc/tightvncserver_1.2.9-21_i386.deb
[02:35] <Black5un> wget it
[02:36] <daniel7> ty admiral and black5un
[02:36] <daniel7> now i have downloaded the file...
[02:36] <daniel7> i run it?
[02:36] <daniel7> or use somecode in terminal S:
[02:36] <Black5un> sudo dpkg --install tightvncserver_1.2.9-21_i386.deb
[02:37] <VR_> no need for --install
[02:37] <VR_> just -i
[02:37] <VR_> it's much sexier
[02:37] <Black5un> --install works
[02:37] <VR_> i refuse to use that!
[02:38] <Black5un> i'm married have all the time in the world to type
[02:38] <Black5un> :P
[02:38] <Admiral_Chicago> daniel7: sudo apt-get install alien && cd <location of dl> & sudo alien foo.rpm
[02:38] <daniel7> daniel@daniel-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg --install tightvncserver_1.2.9-21_i386.deb
[02:38] <daniel7> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[02:38] <VR_> tell him to install alien too, if he doesnt have it
[02:38] <VR_> unless you already did, i didnt pay attention
[02:39] <daniel7> where to download alien :S
[02:39] <VR_> daniel7, you need to close synaptic or whatever youre using
[02:39] <malik__> i just wanna change my ntfs to ext3 data drive.........any idea how can i do that without destroyin my data?
[02:40] <unix_infidel> malik__: there is no simple way to convert.
[02:41] <VR_> daniel7, installing alien is easy. sudo apt-get install alien
[02:41] <unix_infidel> you can backup, format to ext3 or whichever FS you like. and then cp back.
[02:41] <daniel7> thanks vr_
[02:41] <VR_> daniel7, just make sure you close kynaptic first
[02:41] <daniel7> how can i force a windows to closE? like in windows the ctrl +alt+supr
[02:42] <VR_> daniel7, is it a certain program you're trying to close?
[02:42] <daniel7> it's automatix :S
[02:42] <daniel7> :(
[02:43] <VR_> try killall automatix2
[02:43] <VR_> i freakin' hate automatix man
[02:44] <CSonicGo> heh
[02:44] <CSonicGo> omg new wine *upgrades*
[02:44] <VR_> OMGz~
[02:44] <VR_> wine is for traitors, kind of
[02:44] <CSonicGo> :P
[02:44] <VR_> haha
[02:45] <CSonicGo> it's for games that aren't for linux yet (at least for me)
[02:45] <CSonicGo> and I use dosbox for my old old games
[02:46] <VR_> just buy a console, chum
[02:47] <eilker> my debian sees windows clients directly-automatically , but my kubuntu doesnt...why ?
[02:47] <eilker> i need to carry a big file from windows to kubuntu...
[02:53] <daniel7> Black5un are you here?
[02:53] <daniel7> i have a problem with the command sudo dpkg --install tightvncserver_1.2.9-21_i386.deb
[02:54] <VR_> daniel7, whats wrong?
[02:54] <daniel7> daniel@daniel-desktop:~/Desktop$  sudo dpkg --install tightvncserver_1.2.9-21_i386.deb
[02:54] <daniel7> (Reading database ... 78692 files and directories currently installed.)
[02:54] <daniel7> Preparing to replace tightvncserver 1.2.9-21 (using tightvncserver_1.2.9-21_i386.deb) ...
[02:54] <daniel7> Unpacking replacement tightvncserver ...
[02:54] <daniel7> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of tightvncserver:
[02:54] <daniel7> tightvncserver depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6); however:
[02:54] <daniel7>   Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.6-0ubuntu20.
[02:54] <nev> hiya.. today is my 1st time using ubuntu!! lol.. but is there anyway to control cpu fanspeed??
[02:54] <daniel7> dpkg: error processing tightvncserver (--install):
[02:54] <daniel7>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[02:55] <daniel7> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:55] <daniel7>  tightvncserver
[02:55] <VR_> daniel7, it looks like you're missing some dependencies.
[02:55] <daniel7> what's that?
[02:55] <VR_> daniel7, hold on a sec.
[02:55] <daniel7> ok
[02:56] <VR_> daniel7, im not sure but, you could try and do the following:
[02:56] <VR_> sudo apt-get build-dep tightvncserver
[02:57] <daniel7> :S
[02:57] <VR_> no go?
[02:57] <daniel7> Might the file is wrong
[02:57] <daniel7> daniel@daniel-desktop:~/Desktop$ sudo apt-get build-dep tightvncserver
[02:57] <daniel7> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[02:57] <daniel7> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[02:58] <daniel7> daniel@daniel-desktop:~/Desktop$ sudo apt-get build-dep tightvncserver
[02:58] <daniel7> Reading package lists... Done
[02:58] <daniel7> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:58] <daniel7> E: Unable to find a source package for tightvnc
[02:58] <VR_> daniel7, i guess that won't work.
[02:58] <daniel7> I guess that's sucks =(
[02:58] <VR_> daniel7, you'll have to install all the dependencies by hand...
[02:58] <VR_> daniel7, try and do apt-cache search libc6
[02:59] <daniel7> i wrote
[03:00] <daniel7> there are a lot of lines of kinds of explications of the libs
[03:00] <VR_> ok
[03:00] <daniel7> like apt-cache search libc6
[03:01] <VR_> what im trying to show you is that you'll have to search for your dependencies that way and apt-get install them one by one. BUT, thats not really something i would recommend to you.
[03:01] <VR_> it can be very tedious
[03:01] <daniel7> i think so
[03:01] <Theory> well, there is that package called autoapt or something
[03:01] <Theory> which you run make through and goes and gets all the packages it needs
[03:02] <VR_> Theory, how do you use that?
[03:02] <Theory> it's called auto-apt
[03:02] <Theory> not used it for a while, so I suggest you google / read docs
[03:02] <daniel7> :S
[03:03] <VR_> i think that vncserver is in the repos, but you might have to enable multiverse or something...
[03:05] <vladi> anyone know how to get kubuntu to auto-mount my ipod?
[03:05] <vladi> would i have to add an entry into fstab?
[03:06] <daniel7> vr_ i opened synaptic program
[03:06] <daniel7> and i found tight VNC server (what i'm looking for)
[03:06] <daniel7> but
[03:07] <CSonicGo> hey how do I open RAR files?
[03:07] <CSonicGo> :(
[03:07] <VR_> CSonicGo, sudo apt-get install unrar
[03:07] <JohnFlux> CSonicGo: unrar x file.rar
[03:07] <daniel7> I installed tightvncserver pack and the xtightvncviewer pack....
[03:07] <JohnFlux> after you do what VR_ said
[03:07] <daniel7> and there are no problems in the instalation
[03:07] <VR_> daniel7, ok, good.
[03:07] <daniel7> where can i run the program?
[03:07] <daniel7> =( =S
[03:08] <VR_> daniel7, im not sure what kind of program it is, but i would say from the command line probably works. just type tightvncserver
[03:08] <Black5un> then password
[03:09] <daniel7> black5un, you use tight vnc ?
[03:10] <ubuntu> i love windows
[03:10] <ubuntu> just kidding ^^
[03:10] <CSonicGo> XD
[03:10] <Black5un> yes
[03:10] <daniel7> jejej
[03:10] <Black5un> their is some good threads on it in forums
[03:10] <ubuntu> i'm trying the live cd of kubuntu at the moment... i'm actually considering to install it :)
[03:11] <daniel7> i used it on windows and it runs very well... i have a old mashine with win98SE working 24h/7d downloading porn XD!
[03:11] <daniel7> really downloating movies
[03:11] <daniel7> from a friend's server
[03:11] <ubuntu> i'm juste wandering a thing... can i use windows datafiles like music, divx, porns on kubuntu guys ?
[03:11] <daniel7> and i want to conect to this computer
[03:12] <Black5un> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=107503&highlight=tightvnc
[03:12] <N3m0> k thanks for the answer :p arn't u supose to be "ubuntu experts" ?
[03:12] <dwidmann> N3m0: depends
[03:12] <dwidmann> expert is a relative term
[03:13] <N3m0> yeah whatever, i guess my question isn't that hard ^
[03:13] <N3m0> ^^
[03:14] <dwidmann> It's harder than you think, you say music, I say which format, divx can be played fine, you say porns, what exactly do you mean by that anyway?
[03:14] <N3m0> nvm about porns ^^ it's format fat32 i think where all music and movies are in
[03:14] <N3m0> softwares and games too btw
[03:16] <dwidmann> software and games depends, linux (well, POSIX compatible) programs will run fine, else, you can try WINE and cross your fingers, some things will work in it, and some things won't
[03:16] <dwidmann> N3m0: you can mount your fat32 partition if you want
[03:17] <N3m0> mount ? that means it can be "translated" into a format Kubuntu understands ?
[03:18] <CSonicGo> !dvd
[03:18] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:18] <dwidmann> !fat | N3m0
[03:18] <ubotu> N3m0: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[03:18] <dwidmann> !fuse
[03:18] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[03:19] <dwidmann> !mount | N3m0
[03:19] <ubotu> N3m0: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[03:20] <N3m0> ok, ty very much for your answers :p
[03:20] <N3m0> you rock guys
[03:20] <dwidmann> :)
[03:22] <Robinator> I just wanted to installed "apache2"  and there is a package which has to be REMOVED ... this fact makes me worry.  Please look at this:  http://pastebin.com/844952
[03:23] <Robinator> thank you dwidmann
[03:23] <flaccid> Robinator: that is correct
[03:23] <dwidmann> !info  apache2-mpm-worker
[03:24] <ubotu> apache2-mpm-worker: high speed threaded model for Apache2. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.55-4ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 204 kB, installed size 492 kB
[03:24] <flaccid> you want prefork and not work afaik
[03:24] <flaccid> the mpm has issues with php5 iirc
[03:24] <Robinator> ok
[03:24] <Robinator> erm
[03:24] <flaccid> probably why they did that with the package deps
[03:24] <Robinator> flaccid, so what may I do?
[03:24] <Robinator> I installed  MySQL 5.0
[03:24] <Robinator> Apache2
[03:24] <shredder81> what do I do with a tar.gz file
[03:24] <flaccid> let it install?
[03:24] <Robinator> and now php5
[03:25] <Robinator> but you just saud that there are issues?
[03:25] <flaccid> shredder81: unarchive with a program like ark
[03:25] <Robinator> should I install php4 ?
[03:25] <Dr_willis> !info unp
[03:25] <ubotu> unp: unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.10 (edgy), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB
[03:25] <flaccid> no Robinator issues with apache mpm. which is why it is suggesting prefork
[03:25] <Robinator> oh
[03:25] <Robinator> sorry
[03:25] <Robinator> thank you
[03:25] <flaccid> Robinator: let that command go through :)
[03:25] <dwidmann> That depends what you need, php4 works, but php5 is newer and has some new features
[03:25] <flaccid> sweet
[03:25] <daniel7> :S
[03:25] <daniel7> how can i instal in ubuntu a .rpm file?
[03:25] <daniel7> i have donwloaded alien :D
[03:26] <flaccid> always use php5 unless you have a php4 dependent script(s)
[03:26] <shredder81> then what?
[03:26] <flaccid> daniel7: man alien
[03:26] <dwidmann> daniel7: I think it involves running something like alien file.rpm, then you just install the newly created file.deb with dpkg --install ...
[03:27] <flaccid> yeah alien has worked well for me
[03:27] <Dr_willis> and hope it dont break things. :)
[03:28] <flaccid> it won't break anything
[03:28] <flaccid> unless it overrides existing files from another program/package
[03:28] <Robinator> erm...  question:  I decided using "aptitude" instead of "apt-get" ... now I just notice a little tool next to the clock in KDE named "Adept Notifier" ... can aptitude do the same updates for me or do I need this GUI ?
[03:28] <flaccid> its more a matter of if the distributed files are adequate for the distor
[03:29] <flaccid> Robinator: adept is another package manager. you don't need the gui
[03:29] <flaccid> !adept
[03:29] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[03:29] <shredder81> I got this file firefox-2.0.tar.gz how do I install it
[03:29] <flaccid> ^^^ its kubuntu's manager thats why its there
[03:29] <Robinator> flaccid, so I can use aptitude and tell adept not to start again
[03:29] <flaccid> shredder81: read the install structions from mozilla
[03:29] <flaccid> Robinator: correct. package manager is independent
[03:30] <CSonicGo> !dvd
[03:30] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:32] <rexbron> !lucks
[03:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lucks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:32] <rexbron> !luks
[03:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about luks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:33] <rexbron> ok
[03:33] <malik__> yeeeeeeeeeee haaaaaaaaaaa............im dancing man
[03:33] <malik__> :)
[03:33] <malik__> kmldonkey working perfectly
[03:34] <daniel7> i still can't use the tight vnc
[03:34] <rexbron> does anyone know how to get a luks encrypted partition to mount when you plug it in (by asking for a passphrase first)
[03:34] <flaccid> daniel7: why?
[03:35] <malik__> daniel7: if you are using kubuntu edgy why not use remote desktop utility in the internet menu?
[03:36] <daniel7> i'm using ubuntu
[03:36] <daniel7> normal one
[03:36] <daniel7> 6.06
[03:36] <daniel7> i use alien to convert a .rpm to a .deb
[03:36] <daniel7> now, how I install the .deb?
[03:38] <flaccid> daniel7: sudo dpkg -i /path/to/deb.deb
[03:38] <flaccid> brb
[03:39] <daniel7> yeha
[03:39] <daniel7> I rocks
[03:39] <daniel7> i runned the $%"%$"& tight vnc viewer
[03:40] <daniel7> but only with code
[03:40] <daniel7> how can i make a kind of icon wich one run the code for me?
[03:41] <Dr_willis> make a batchfile. make an icon that launches it.
[03:41] <daniel7> ok, but how xD
[03:41] <snowrichard> shell script -- batch file same idea
[03:41] <Dr_willis> now is the time to spend some time learning some Linux/shell fundamentals I think
[03:42] <daniel7> yes
[03:42] <flaccid> thats good to hear
[03:42] <Dr_willis> !bash
[03:42] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[03:42] <daniel7> jejeje
[03:42] <snowrichard> the late arthur Dent
[03:42] <Dr_willis> tldp.org is also a good place to start
[03:42] <daniel7> i must to go
[03:42] <daniel7> cyaa!
[03:42] <daniel7> thanks
[03:42] <daniel7> goodbye
[03:42] <daniel7> goodnight
[03:42] <daniel7> jejejej
[03:42] <dwidmann> pretty much everything on tldp is ancient, iirc
[03:43] <jerp> newb alert, newb alert: Someone has a new monitor and for it to work properly, they should install wine and then install the drivers from the cd with it
[03:44] <Dr_willis> That makes totally no sence..
[03:44] <jerp> am I close?  does it work that way?  or is wine just for programs?
[03:44] <Dr_willis> all a monitors 'drivers' do - from what ive seen - is tell what freq/rates it can handle
[03:44] <dwidmann> jerp: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg might do well for you, if your resolution is off
[03:44] <Dr_willis> jerp,  about as far out in left field as ya can get. :)
[03:44] <Dr_willis> jerp,  now a look at the Montors Manuals/docs may give some specs that may be handy to know.
[03:45] <dwidmann> jerp: it'll help a lot if you happen to know the horizontal sync and vertical refresh of the new monitor
[03:45] <jerp> alrighty then
[03:46] <dwidmann> Plug those numbers in when you do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it practically can't get the resolution/refresh rate wrong
[03:46] <LBB> dwidmann
[03:46] <dwidmann> yo
[03:46] <snowrichard> Marvin was manic-depressive, not paranoid: )
[03:49] <jerp> thanks for bearing with my newb identity
[03:51] <dwidmann> need something LBB?
[03:51] <Robinator> I am searching for 2 packages
[03:52] <Robinator> there is  "php4-pear"  and  php4-gd2"
[03:52] <Robinator> but for php5:
[03:52] <Robinator> there is no "pear" and only  php5-gd"  but no gd2
[03:52] <Robinator> where are the packages for php5 ?
[03:54] <dwidmann> Robinator: There seem to be quite a few php5-related packages, according to "apt-cache search php5" anyway
[03:55] <Robinator> dwidmann, only  php5-gd
[03:55] <Robinator> not  php5-gd2
[03:56] <Robinator> and there is no pear
[03:57] <dwidmann> there is no php5-pear, but it seems php-pear is a replacement package of some sort, it depends on php5-cli
[03:58] <Robinator> hum
[03:59] <dwidmann> two LBBs now o.O
[03:59] <LBB_> dwidmann its both me, but on different pc's
[03:59] <dwidmann> aha, that makes sense
[04:00] <LBB_> !pastebin
[04:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:01] <malik__> how do i shut down mldonkey deamonm which is running in the background?
[04:02] <Dr_willis> sudo /etc/init.d/whatever-runs-mldonkey
[04:02] <Dr_willis> sudo /etc/init.d/whatever-runs-mldonkey stop
[04:02] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:04] <LBB_> dwiddman: you recomended i try to make my system bootable by chrooting into it, but when i tried to mount my hda5 i get an error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38834/ ( output of sfdisk -l also included)
[04:05] <malik__> sudo: /etc/init.d/mlnet-mldonkey: command not found
[04:05] <Dr_willis> i would guess ya typed somthing wrong...
[04:05] <Dr_willis> sudo /etc/init.d/ml<tab>
[04:06] <malik__> or should i kill it from task manager
[04:06] <Dr_willis> proberly BEST to tell the service to stop
[04:06] <Dr_willis> since it may start backup again
[04:06] <Dr_willis> if you just kill it.
[04:08] <cpk1> trying to figure out why my nvidia driver randomly broke =\
[04:08] <malik__> oki damn thing is sitting somewhere in /usr/bin/mlnet
[04:08] <malik__> how do i stop mlnet from running constantly?
[04:09] <mirshafie> Hello. I have a huge problem with my file systems (ext3). After using the computer for a while, I'm suddenly unable to write to them, and I get a message which say the disk is full. But df or any other tool will claim that they still have plenty of space available. This happens on both my hard drives - I have two large ext3 partitions. What's wrong?
[04:09] <malik__> since its a deamon n wont stop automatically
[04:10] <mirshafie> Oh, yeah... i can only write to the disks if I'm root after that point, meaning, suddenly for no appearent reason, my disks requires me to be root.
[04:11] <LBB> mirshafie did you check your rights?
[04:11] <cpk1> how much space is left mirshafie?
[04:12] <cpk1> iirc once you get to a certain percentage full then only root can write to prevent a user from completely stuffing the drive
[04:12] <mirshafie> LBB: yes, i have the right permissions. and usually, i can write to all dirs, but it suddenly just goes funny
[04:13] <mirshafie> cpk1: 36 GB + 40 GB left
[04:13] <cplusplus> hi
[04:13] <cplusplus> hi what is filesystem: udev mounted on /dev and none mounted on /dev/shm ???????
[04:15] <Dr_willis> those are special 'virtual' filesystems
[04:15] <Dr_willis> udev - is the dynamic 'devices'
[04:15] <Dr_willis> shm - i think is some way of accessing system memory
[04:16] <mirshafie> btw, this has happened before. can't remember if it was on dapper or edgy, but it wasn't very long ago. i finally freaked and reinstalled everything.
[04:16] <LBB> dwidmann: you recomended i try to make my system bootable by chrooting into it, but when i tried to mount my hda5 i get an error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38834/ ( output of sfdisk -l also included)
[04:17] <cplusplus> <Dr_willis where can i see swap?
[04:17] <cplusplus> i dont know the name
[04:17] <cplusplus> sda1 or 3 or...
[04:17] <Dr_willis> bookmark tldp.org for the linux tutorials. :)
[04:18] <Dr_willis> sudo fdisk -l
[04:18] <Dr_willis> shows all drives and partitions on the drives
[04:18] <Dr_willis> check the /etc/fstab file to see what swap entrys are there also.
[04:19] <cplusplus> it tells me partition 2 doesnt end on cylinder boundry
[04:19] <cplusplus> boundary
[04:19] <cpk1> has anyone had any problems recently with the "nvidia" driver? out of nowhere I cant load the nvidia module anymore
[04:19] <dwidmann> LBB:LBB_: try sudo umount /dev/hda5, then try mounting it to the new /mnt/tmp directory again
[04:19] <Dr_willis> Not sure thats a real problem. cplusplus
[04:19] <cplusplus> i resized my swap partition
[04:20] <Dr_willis> why did you do that?  heh.
[04:20] <cplusplus> i need 5mb
[04:20] <cplusplus> for a fat32 partition
[04:20] <dwidmann> this not ending on a cylinder boundary problem, what causes it anyway? I've never even heard of it before
[04:20] <Dr_willis> dare i ask why... :)
[04:20] <dwidmann> fdisk woes perhaps?
[04:20] <cplusplus> fidisk of what?
[04:20] <LBB> dwidmann
[04:20] <LBB> sudo umount /dev/hda5
[04:20] <LBB> umount: /dev/hda5: not mounted
[04:21] <Dr_willis> dwidmann,  think of it as a chapter in a book ending on a half a page. while the next chapter starts on the bottom half of hte next page.. :) i guess
[04:21] <Dr_willis> if you use fdisk right, it normally dosent happen. if you tell the partitiosn to be a specific size it may  end up not being on a cylinder end.
[04:21] <Dr_willis> at least i think thats how it happens
[04:22] <dwidmann> LBB: so, after retrying the mount, did it work, seeing as it says it's not mounted?
[04:22] <LBB> dwidmann
[04:22] <LBB> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/hda5 /mnt/tmp
[04:22] <LBB> mount: /dev/hda5 already mounted or /mnt/tmp busy
[04:23] <dwidmann> lovely, try sudo umount /mnt/tmp
[04:23] <Dr_willis>  /mnt/tmp busy? seems odd
[04:23] <LBB> dwidmann: and no, my mnt/tmp is not busy
[04:23] <malik__> does any one know how to stop mldonkey from running in the background?
[04:23] <Dr_willis> check the mldonkey homepage/docs?
[04:24] <dwidmann> "fuser -ck /mnt/tmp" >:-)<
[04:24] <malik__> cant see nothin there
[04:24] <cplusplus> dr_willis: http://img169.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gentoofc1.png
[04:24] <LBB> dwidmann
[04:24] <LBB> sudo umount /mnt/tmp
[04:24] <LBB> umount: /mnt/tmp: not mounted
[04:24] <dwidmann> LBB: That's weird as it comes, try using fuser ...
[04:25] <Dr_willis> cplusplus,  so when you resized swap you put it on a cylinder boundry...
[04:25] <cplusplus> how?
[04:25] <Dr_willis> notice the 14 - 76  77-####
[04:26] <Dr_willis> those are the cylinder/block #'s
[04:26] <cplusplus> ?
[04:26] <Dr_willis> how did you resize it anyway
[04:26] <dwidmann> Also, LBB, did you try booting into single user mode before doing this .. might have worked, I doubt it would start the mysql daemon in single user mode
[04:26] <cplusplus> with parted
[04:26] <cplusplus> resize
[04:26] <Dr_willis> and WHY is this even a problem? its not a problem as far as i know.. whats the actual problem/error messages you are having?
[04:26] <tony__> hello and mery xmas everyon .
[04:27] <tony__> is there antivirus program for linux kubuntu ?
[04:27] <cplusplus> i want to format the 5 mb which i resized swap to fat32 but i cant see it
[04:27] <Dr_willis> tony__,  there are.. but nor really neded
[04:27] <Dr_willis> cplusplus,  you did make the new partition type to be fat32?
[04:27] <cplusplus> no
[04:27] <Dr_willis> cplusplus,  that screen shot shows it as being a linux partition
[04:27] <tony__> im using thunderbird email .. so i don't want to forward emails with virus to others
[04:27] <cplusplus> i cant see the new space!!!!!
[04:28] <Dr_willis> you mean from within windows you cant see it?
[04:28] <cplusplus> i should now see 5mb without any filesystem?
[04:28] <cplusplus> i cant see it on linux
[04:29] <cplusplus> i just want to format the 5mb to fat32
[04:29] <jerp> It's a no go on the Horizontal Sync and Vertical Refresh in the manuals that came with my monitor.  I'll try the dpkg command on Xorg you guys provided above.
[04:29] <Dr_willis> your fdisk -l just showed it.. you need to set its type to be fat32, from within fdisk/parted  then format it as needed.
[04:29] <cplusplus> but fdisk need any device?
[04:29] <cplusplus> where do you see my 5mb with fdisk -l ????????????????????
[04:29] <dwidmann> I vote for backing it up , and recreating it proper
[04:30] <Dr_willis> that screen shot ya just gave me shows it..   dident it?
[04:30] <jerp> thanks for your help, bbl
[04:30] <cplusplus> wher do you see 5mb?
[04:30] <towync> hello
[04:30] <dwidmann> yo
[04:31] <Dr_willis> cplusplus,  if fdisk -l isent showing it.. then you never made it.. that last partition isent your windows one?
[04:31] <cplusplus> why windows?
[04:31] <cplusplus> wdf
[04:31] <Dr_willis> You just said you are trying to make a little fat32 partition for windows to use.
[04:31] <cplusplus> no
[04:31] <cplusplus> not for windows
[04:32] <cplusplus> i dont understand parted
[04:32] <Dr_willis> If fdisk -l issnt showing the partition as you think it should.. then you proberly dident make one.
[04:32] <cplusplus> i resized my swap about 5mb but it never shows it in fdisk -l?
[04:32] <towync> i can't get my wireless up again =(, i had newest ndiswrapper installed and i did (ndiswrapper -i) for the driver, no error msg at all, i can configure wlan0 in network settings, but the usb wireless card light just wouldn't come on
[04:32] <towync> any ideas?
[04:33] <Dr_willis> i am guessing you dident apply the changes and had it actually do the resizeing.
[04:33] <cplusplus> <Dr_willis: does fidisk -l show a space without any partition?
[04:33] <towync> o this usb wireless card worked before and i reinstalled kubuntu like half an hour ago
[04:33] <cplusplus> or filesys
[04:33] <Dr_willis> Looks to me like you got a Linux aprtition, swap, then anotehr linux partition. No sign of any  fat32 filesystems at all.
[04:33] <cplusplus> does fidisk -l show a space without any filesys?
[04:34] <cplusplus> i never made a fat32
[04:34] <LBB> Dr_wilis your last command made me logout!? (and I had to reboot cause i didn't know the user pw)
[04:34] <cplusplus> because i cant see the free space of 5mb
[04:34] <Dr_willis> If there were free/unallocated space. it should be showing it - i think.. you may want to install gparted and do the work from it.
[04:34] <cplusplus> no
[04:35] <cplusplus> gparted?
[04:35] <Dr_willis> If you shrunk your swap. and made a 'new' partition in the middle of the drive - they may be out of order also. that can cause problems.
[04:35] <cplusplus> now?
[04:35] <Dr_willis> gparted/qtparted - are gui's to the parted tool.
[04:35] <cplusplus> i dont have any gui at the mom
[04:35] <cplusplus> gnome is not finished
[04:36] <Dr_willis> are you resizing the partitions on the drive you are currently running your linux system on?
[04:36] <dwidmann> in the case of qtparted, an incomplete gui to the parted tool ...
[04:36] <cplusplus> i resized swap and unmounted it before
[04:36] <cplusplus> nothing else
[04:37] <Dr_willis> Its possible the system is not seeing the changes to the drive. and needs a reboot.. seen that with some drive repartitioning and various installers.
[04:37] <cplusplus> could u help me?
[04:37] <Dr_willis> ive often have had to 'reboot' the installers right after partitionign the drives
[04:37] <cplusplus> i just need a fat32 partition image....want to save any fat32 partition with dd.......
[04:38] <cplusplus> could u do that and send me?
[04:38] <cplusplus> i dont have any space on my sda3 ;/ 99 % used
[04:39] <Dr_willis> all my fat32 partitions are my porn/game drives.. and are about 200+gb each.
[04:39] <Dr_willis> You could use dd, and the loopback filesystem features to make one - i belive.
[04:40] <cplusplus> could u make a 5mb fat32 for me?
[04:40] <cplusplus> just delete one porn?
[04:40] <Dr_willis> I dont think you CAN make a fat32 partition thats only 5mb big for one thing.
[04:40] <cplusplus> why not?
[04:41] <Dr_willis> I thought it had a minimun size.
[04:41] <Dr_willis> why are you even needing such a thing?
[04:41] <cplusplus> no?
[04:41] <deviant> Does anyone know where I can download the usplash that is used on Edgy?
[04:41] <LBB> dwidmann / Dr_wilis mounting my hda5 gives me strange errors and sfdisk tels me I have partitions not ending on boundary's (wich it didn't before). Previous GRUB problems also led me to beleve my partition-table is f*cked. How do I check
[04:42] <cplusplus> what about MultiMedia Cards?
[04:42] <cplusplus> they also use fat32 sometimes
[04:42] <seven11> anyone know a good comand for folder size including all the subfolders
[04:42] <cplusplus> Dr_willis: i want to analyse fat32
[04:42] <dwidmann> LBB: take a look at sudo parted /dev/hda print, and perhaps you can rewrite the partition table, let me check the command for doing so
[04:43] <cpk1> seven11: du -h maybe
[04:43] <dwidmann> "sudo parted /dev/hda mklabel msdos" - take the usual precautions
[04:43] <LBB>  take the usual precautions?
[04:44] <dwidmann> backup anything that you would cry if you lost
[04:44] <LBB> OK
[04:44] <cplusplus> Dr_willis?
[04:44] <Bluewolf> Does anyone know how to Show what firmware u have on your pc, for a wireless card?
[04:44] <Bluewolf> Is there a command?
[04:44] <seven11> cpk1: yes that works
[04:45] <Dr_willis> cplusplus,  you can make one with the dd command...
[04:45] <kai> wasup people
[04:45] <Dr_willis> and mkfs and the loop filesystem.. i just googled how to do it. :P
[04:45] <cplusplus> look into your private mesage Dr_willis!
[04:45] <kai> ...Does Kubuntu hava a p2p client?
[04:45] <Dr_willis> gee a priv message that asks 'am i here' :)
[04:46] <Dr_willis> wow...
[04:46] <dwidmann> nothing too special here kai
[04:46] <dwidmann> kai: comes with ktorrent, it's a p2p ...
[04:46] <LBB> dwidmann
[04:46] <LBB> sudo parted /dev/hda mklabel msdos
[04:46] <LBB> Warning: Partition(s) on /dev/hda are being used.
[04:46] <dwidmann> LBB: try to umount them all
[04:46] <kai> dwidmann: more like something like Limewire or morpheus or something
[04:46] <towync> hey my wireless card isn't working and when i do dmesg the last line is ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): etho0: link is not ready, also the wireless card light doesn't come on, anyone can help?
[04:46] <purpleposeidon> how do I increase the resolution on a widescreen moniter?
[04:46] <LBB> afaik none are mounted, how do i check?
[04:47] <dwidmann> kai: I think there's a limewire client or two, think the Free one is called frostwire
[04:47] <edrex> anybody know what happened to the PLF mirror at freecontrib?
[04:47] <purpleposeidon> system settings only shows 800x600....
[04:47] <kai> dwidmann: frstwire...?
[04:47] <dwidmann> edrex: I think they moved it to somewhere else, not sure where
[04:48] <dwidmann> kai: yes
[04:48] <edrex> dwidmann: can't find a link
[04:48] <LBB> dwidman afaik none are mounted, how do i check?
[04:48] <LBB> dwidmann afaik none are mounted, how do i check?
[04:48] <kai> nice, now let me find it
[04:48] <dwidmann> LBB: cat /etc/mtab
[04:49] <dwidmann> purpleposeidon: If you happen to know the horiz sync & vertical refresh, it'll be easy, can you find them?
[04:49] <purpleposeidon> possibly
[04:49] <purpleposeidon> do I have to add something to xorg.conf?
[04:50] <dwidmann> google the model of your monitor with the words vertical refresh, you might find it pretty easily
[04:50] <purpleposeidon> thanks
[04:51] <dwidmann> purpleposeidon: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ... there'll be a part for monitor configuration, if you choose advanced and plug in the vertical refresh and horizontal sync ratios it almost always gets it right, in my experience
[04:51] <LBB> dwidmann afaik still nothing mounted on hda (check for yourself on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38837/)
[04:52] <Bluewolf> Hello I`m trien to figure out how to, Show what firmware i have for my Intel wireless ipw2200, Can anyone help me? is there a site i can go to or a command i can type in?
[04:52] <dwidmann> LBB: a reboot should umount it seeing as you're running from the livecd
[04:53] <dwidmann> sometimes that's the easiest way to resolve this problem
[04:53] <LBB> dwidmann don't understand
[04:53] <LBB> did you see my paste?
[04:54] <dwidmann> if it's complaining that it's mounted when it in fact isn't, rebooting usually solves that problem, and yes, I do see your paste, it definitely isn't mounted
[04:54] <LBB> dwidmann OK I'll reboot.
[04:54] <CSonicGo> hey guys is RADEON Mobile cards supported in Kubuntu?
[04:54] <CSonicGo> I'm getting a new notebook with that as a video card.
[04:55] <Dr_willis> my x200 works
[04:55] <CSonicGo> I was just wondering if I'll have accelerated support. oh ok
[04:55] <Dr_willis> x200m that is.. but really its not an imnpressive card.
[04:55] <CSonicGo> well this is a new card
[04:55] <CSonicGo> the newest mobile card that is
[04:55] <Dr_willis> even accelerated it can do gltron/other games ok.. but dont expect quake4 to rock.
[04:55] <dwidmann> hehehe, quake 4 :D
[04:56] <Dr_willis> i noticed that suspend/resume even works now on my laptop
[04:58] <rick_> Anyone here know anything about printers and Kubuntu
[04:58] <Dr_willis> they print....
[04:58] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:59] <rick_> LOL My HP4P spits out 2 empty pages every print job, but my Epson 860 doesn't. Why is this?
[04:59] <dwidmann> different drivers
[04:59] <rick_> How do I change this behaviour?
[05:00] <Dr_willis> its over 10 yrs old....
[05:01] <purpleposeidon> dwidmann: Does it matter what the identifier for the card is?
[05:01] <soulrider> i want a laser printer
[05:01] <soulrider> i hate printing
[05:01] <dwidmann> purpleposeidon: no
[05:01] <soulrider> it takes 5 minutes for a damn page to come out!
[05:01] <Dr_willis> I got a little print server. for my printer. makes it fairly easy to setup
[05:03] <str> hi all
[05:04] <str> anyone here using beryl on kubuntu?
[05:05] <jerp> I don't know if I did anything right with that dpkg-reconfigure command
[05:05] <jerp> the font here looks different though
[05:06] <LBB> dwidmann
[05:06] <LBB> sudo parted /dev/hda mklabel msdos
[05:06] <LBB> Warning: Partition(s) on /dev/hda are being used.
[05:06] <jerp> I never got to close out of the blue graphic screen,
[05:06] <LBB> on a clean reboot
[05:06] <dwidmann> LBB: That's just screwy.
[05:06] <LBB> hmm..
[05:07] <dwidmann> LBB: there's no swap partition on that drive is there?
[05:07] <LBB> yes there is
[05:07] <LBB> so how do i umount that?
[05:07] <str> could anyone help me to install beryl on my box?  I read  some wiki about installing it, but now the window manager does not show
[05:08] <dwidmann> LBB: maybe booting with the noswap option will work?
[05:08] <dwidmann> that, or try using swapoff <device>
[05:09] <jerp> Does anyone know if that happens it is a failure or nothing to worry about?----->   "I never got to close out of the blue graphic screen,"
[05:10] <jerp> It said I was about to overwrite a previously saved xorg.conf file
[05:10] <dwidmann> jerp: it was, but then it creates a backup as well
[05:10] <jerp> so I did the sudo reboot since I was at a terminal prompt
[05:11] <dwidmann> Did the dpkg-reconfigure finish?
[05:11] <jerp> and in the reboot it was said that the server crashed twice
[05:11] <dwidmann> hmmm
[05:12] <jerp> dwidmann, that's what I'm asking
[05:12] <dwidmann> try running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg again, see if it finished
[05:14] <LBB> dwidmann the swapoff worked, but the mklabel made sfdisk believe there are 4 empty partitions !?! (see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38838/ )
[05:14] <jerp> I actually did fo through it twice,  first time when that notice came up at the terminal prompt, I deleted the file that it said I was going to overwrite, and then I reentered the command dpkg-reconf  xserver-xorg
[05:14] <jerp> went through it a second time and did the sudo reboot
[05:14] <jerp> and in the reboot it was said that the server crashed twice
[05:15] <dwidmann> !! LBB, 4 empties?
[05:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about LBB, 4 empties? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:16] <dwidmann> LBB: are they mountable?
[05:17] <dwidmann> also, try sudo parted /dev/hda print
[05:19] <LBB> dwidmann no succes: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38839/
[05:21] <dwidmann> erm, there are two things that can ber done, one of them is to try using parteds rescue command to get the partitions back,  the other is to try to restore the old partition table, and I forget the command for that but I'll have it in a minute, LBB
[05:21] <magicbronson_> i just plugged in a belkin usb wifi adapter, and it's showing up in kinfocenter as unknown under USB devices...
[05:21] <dwidmann> LBB: the one I'm thinking of is testdisk
[05:22] <LBB> dwidmann No manual entry for testdisk
[05:22] <poseidon> yay, moniter works!
[05:22] <dwidmann> LBB: to get testdisk, if rescue fails to work for you, is to enable the universe repository, "sudo apt-get install testdisk", then use "testdisk /dev/hda"
[05:23] <dwidmann> fortunately I'm well versed in partition recovery due to personal catastrophes of the past ...
[05:23] <LBB> dwidmann: how do i try rescue?
[05:23] <magicbronson_> anyone know about getting wireless cards to be recognized?
[05:24] <dwidmann> LBB: first, "sudo parted /dev/hda" to start parted
[05:24] <dwidmann> then I believe it's something like "rescue", it'll ask for the supposed starting area and ending area
[05:25] <dwidmann> It can take a little time to work, but if it hasn't been written over, it will find it.
[05:25] <jerp> hmm, so I don't know about my 4yo BFG Asylum Nvidia GeForce FX 5600 Ultra sportin' 128megs, it might be time for me to break down and shell out some more on this setup.
[05:26] <LBB> dwidmann: how do i find out the supposed starting area and ending area?
[05:27] <||arifaX> Hi, I need to apply a command to all *.txt in a folder how can I do that from terminal. in win I did something like for /f %a in ('command') do echo %a how ist this in linux?
[05:27] <dwidmann> LBB: how big were the partitions, and where were they on the disk?
[05:27] <dwidmann> vague works
[05:27] <jerp> what's that composite entry suppose to read in Xorg.conf?   and do I do the "ARGLXVisuals"  (or something like that?)
[05:28] <dwidmann> starting point for the first would probably be something like 0MB, then guess about the ending point and see what it finds
[05:28] <LBB> dwidmann wdym where they on the disk???
[05:28] <dwidmann> then use that ending point as the next starting point, until you've found them
[05:28] <purpleposeidon> ||arifaX: I think it might be something like  echo whatever > *.txt , or with two >
[05:29] <purpleposeidon> one of them appends, and the other replaces, air
[05:29] <dwidmann> testdisk might be faster/easier, but if it really was a filesystem table problem, then that problem will come back if you use it.
[05:29] <dwidmann> (at least, I think it would)
[05:30] <LBB> dwidmann how would i install testdisk if i dont have aworking system?
[05:30] <dwidmann> LBB: live cd
[05:30] <||arifaX> purpleposeidon: I have a dir with a lot of dll files and I need to apply a command to all of them in the form "gacutil -i <file>" so I need a combination of ls -l *.dll and gacutil -i
[05:30] <dwidmann> LBB: last time this happen to me I was using Knoppix 4.x dvd, and it came with it, but I've done it with Kubuntu livecd before also.
[05:31] <LBB> dwidmann so i can just use the adept in my liveCD?
[05:31] <dwidmann> LBB: right
[05:31] <dwidmann> LBB: Keep in mind it's in universe though
[05:31] <purpleposeidon> ||arifaX: So you're just doing one command? then you could do gacutil -l *
[05:31] <LBB> I'll try that
[05:32] <purpleposeidon> ||arifaX: or *.dll
[05:32] <dwidmann> LBB: I think I've found your starting/ending points
[05:32] <dwidmann> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38834/
[05:34] <LBB> dwidmann are the points in the same units? does it matter that this partition table is probably f*cked already?
[05:35] <dwidmann> I'm not sure if parted will take it in cylinders or not
[05:35] <dwidmann> you can try?
[05:35] <||arifaX> purpleposeidon: does not work that way, already tried that
[05:35] <dwidmann> I know it behaved very weirdly when I left off the mb/gb when I used it, so it might take the cylinders
[05:35] <purpleposeidon> mm, I don't know then, sry
[05:37] <LBB> dwidmann
[05:37] <LBB> (parted) rescue
[05:37] <LBB> Start? 0 Mb
[05:37] <LBB> Error: Invalid number.
[05:38] <dwidmann> hmmm
[05:38] <dwidmann> no spaces?
[05:38] <dwidmann> Maybe it doesn't like the space
[05:40] <LBB> dwidmann: yup, had found it out aswell
[05:41] <LBB> dwidmann
[05:41] <LBB> End? 23429
[05:41] <LBB> Information: A ntfs primary partition was found at 32kB -> 12GB
[05:43] <McGruff> bah humbug
[05:43] <McGruff> may the people at nvidia rot in hell
[05:44] <dwidmann> LBB: good news :)
[05:44] <dwidmann> LBB: how about the rest?
[05:44] <dwidmann> McGruff: why do you say that?
[05:45] <LBB> dwidmann my first partition is found, but start 12GB and end 12GB found nothing
[05:45] <dwidmann> if the starting and ending point are the same, you won't find much
[05:45] <dwidmann> did the cylinder idea work, or no?
[05:46] <LBB> dwidmann: its a small partition (my boot)
[05:46] <McGruff> because I have had nothing but one grief stricken moment trying to get their drivers to work, and the moment it works, i reboot and i'm back at square fucking one
[05:46] <forge> feisty herd?...
[05:46] <forge> hmmm
[05:46] <forge> is that good?
[05:46] <dwidmann> LBB: change the range to something like 12gb to 13gb, or some such
[05:46] <LBB> dwidmann 12 and 13 GB nothing either
[05:47] <dwidmann> Hmm
[05:47] <forge> grrr I still have these power manager issues
[05:47] <dwidmann> 12gb ~= 12,288mb, try 12,275mb to somethinl ike 13,000mb?
[05:47] <dwidmann> (without the commas, of course)
[05:48] <ForgeAus> what causes errors in Power manger (guidance-power-manager.py) ?? Signal 11 SIGSEGV
[05:48] <jerp> I got it to work without the fault box when the desktop appears.  So we're kickin' chicken!  just need some more mem
[05:48] <[abhishek] > kopete with jabber for logging into gmail.com gives connection error ? any idea?
[05:48] <reldruh> hi. Every time I try to use a wireless connection I set up with ndiswrapper, my entire computer (everything but the mouse) freezes. My computer reports the connection is working but if I ever try to use it the whole thing crashes
[05:49] <reldruh> [abhishek] : you need to change the server to talk.google.com, I think
[05:49] <reldruh> that's how I get into my gtalk account
[05:49] <reldruh> http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Google+Talk+support is a really good page for getting it set up
[05:50] <dwidmann> McGruff: they work fine for me ...
[05:50] <dwidmann> McGruff: what have you tried, you running dapper, or edgy?
[05:50] <McGruff> my problem is the nvidia-glx package will not work
[05:50] <dwidmann> McGruff: which card is it?
[05:50] <[abhishek] > reldruh: thanks i am checking for the same
[05:50] <McGruff> i keep getting this lame error stating the kernel module has a different version from the X module
[05:50] <reldruh> [abhishek] : no problem. It's easy once you know how to do it
[05:51] <dwidmann> ForgeAus:  Signal 11 can be caused by pretty much anything in a kde app, AFAIK, it's the generic error that most things seem to terminate with ...
[05:51] <reldruh> can anybody help me fix my ndiswrapper problem?
[05:51] <[abhishek] > reldruh: what is port number for that?
[05:52] <dwidmann> McGruff: have you tried to install from out-of-repositories, then tried to install another one without removing previous ones, or some such? That will ALWAYS cause trouble
[05:52] <reldruh> [abhishek] : it's the default. You don't have to change that
[05:52] <dwidmann> McGruff: try running envy, it may fix your problems
[05:52] <dwidmann> !envy | McGruff
[05:52] <ubotu> McGruff: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy
[05:52] <ForgeAus> well it happens everytime on startup
[05:52] <McGruff> the problem i have is the uninstall doesn't unintall, it asks and I say yes, but strangely the stuff is still there
[05:54] <reldruh> hi. Every time I try to use a wireless connection I set up with ndiswrapper, my entire computer (everything but the mouse) freezes. My computer reports the connection is working but if I ever try to use it the whole thing crashes. Can anybody help me with that?
[05:54] <dwidmann> McGruff: I had run into similar problems when I tried to install the 96xx drivers, when i failed I tried to drop back to the 8xxx drivers, then I got that message, afterwards I tried envy and it fixed my troubles.
[05:56] <dwidmann> reldruh: have you tried posting on the ubuntuforums .... I'm pretty clueless on wireless myself. Seems wireless in a major pain in the butt in general :\
[05:57] <reldruh> dwidmann: no, I haven't tried the forums yet. I was hoping to get some more immediate help here. Everything seems to go fine until I try to use it
[05:59] <LBB> dwidmann: parted found nothing between 12275MB and 13000MB
[06:00] <dwidmann> LBB: it takes some tinkering to get that right, maybe testdisk would give much faster results
[06:00] <McGruff> Anybody: where can i find the official envy site?
[06:01] <LBB> dwidmann i'm installing that right now
[06:01] <dwidmann> !envy
[06:01] <ubotu> envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy
[06:01] <dwidmann> That's the official site ...
[06:01] <McGruff> ah cool
[06:03] <ForgeAus> dwidmann, how about power management and video? does that narrow it down any?...
[06:03] <ForgeAus> there is another time it happens (peripherals - monitor/display settings)
[06:03] <dwidmann> ForgeAus: laptop issues are a weakpoint of mine, I don't have one :(
[06:04] <ForgeAus> I'm not using a laptop!
[06:04] <ForgeAus> its just a desktop
[06:04] <dwidmann> o.O ah
[06:05] <dwidmann> So what exactly do you need powermanagement to do then?
[06:05] <dwidmann> Is it causing any major problems?
[06:05] <ForgeAus> stop c ausing errors and allow the Monitor/desktop settings to work (and to allay any occasional random errors sigsegv gives otherwise)
[06:07] <dwidmann> try sudo apt-get remove --purge kde-guidance && sudo apt-get install kde-guidance
[06:08] <dwidmann> Did it do it from first boot? If not, this may fix it
[06:08] <ForgeAus> thanx
[06:08] <ForgeAus> yes did it from first boot
[06:08] <dwidmann> rats
[06:08] <ForgeAus> both inside and outside of VMware)
[06:08] <ForgeAus> and once on a diff machine
[06:08] <ForgeAus> I wonder if the CD had an error?
[06:09] <ForgeAus> erm iso
[06:09] <ForgeAus> I'll redo the guidance thing anyway...
[06:10] <dwidmann> kay
[06:10] <LBB> dwidmann testdisk only lists hdd?!
[06:10] <mosud> hi
[06:10] <LBB> hi
[06:10] <dwidmann> LBB: you have to run it as sudo testdisk /dev/hda
[06:10] <dwidmann> otherwise it will only list your cd drive
[06:10] <LBB> ok
[06:14] <LBB> dwidmann : it found my partitions, but also reported an error about the number of heads being 8 instead of 16?!
[06:14] <ForgeAus> hmmm 175mb is a huge upgrade
[06:14] <dwidmann> Well, we knew there was a problem, but at least it can find and (should) recover your partitinos
[06:15] <dwidmann> 175mb ... not too big, heck, openoffice is like 130mb alone
[06:16] <mosud> hello people, I need attention please
[06:16] <LBB> dwidmann on closer inspection: it didn't find my swap, its searching deeper now
[06:17] <mosud> hello people, I need attention please
[06:17] <dwidmann> LBB: if swap is the only thing missing, it can safely be redone without issue
[06:17] <mosud> hello people, I need attention please
[06:17] <flaccid> !ask > mosud
[06:19] <mosud> how can I cache web pages on my ubuntu?
[06:20] <flaccid> mosud: your web browser usually has a cache. what kind of cache do you want?
[06:20] <flaccid> !squid
[06:20] <ubotu> squid: Internet Object Cache (WWW proxy cache). In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.1-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 576 kB, installed size 1524 kB
[06:20] <abattoir> mosud: you're using firefox or konqueror?
[06:20] <flaccid> ?
[06:20] <mosud> I have both
[06:20] <flaccid> they both use their own cache
[06:21] <dwidmann> ubotu: caching doesn't seem to work so well in konqueror
[06:21] <dwidmann> wait, why did I say ubotu, silly me
[06:21] <flaccid> hehe
[06:21] <flaccid> isn't he cute
[06:22] <dwidmann> !botsnack
[06:22] <ubotu> Yum!
[06:22] <mosud> is it possible for the cache to be available offline
[06:22] <mosud> that is the kind of cache am talkig about
[06:22] <abattoir> mosud: check Settings->Configure Konqueror->Cache for konq.
[06:23] <ForgeAus> eek yum? no thanx!!
[06:23] <flaccid> mosud: firefox. file | work offline
[06:23] <dwidmann> konqueror's caching options are rather lacking . ..
[06:23] <ForgeAus> Yum and Yast are Yuck!
[06:23] <abattoir> mosud: if you want to save the web pages for viewing them offline, check Tools->Archive Web Page
[06:23] <flaccid> i want some lobster
[06:23] <abattoir> (again for konq.)
[06:24] <mosud> ok
[06:25] <abattoir> for simple pages, Location->Save as should also work fine
[06:33] <mikael_> hey
[06:34] <mikael_> anybodt
[06:34] <mikael_> ... anybody
[06:34] <mikael_> hmmm...
[06:34] <mikael_> ?????????
[06:34] <abattoir> !ask
[06:34] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:34] <abattoir> :)
[06:35] <mikael_> oki... i think i've started the wrong program...
[06:35] <mikael_> sorry... :(
[06:35] <abattoir> mikael_: ok
[06:36] <tony__> no one here tonight ???
[06:37] <abattoir> there are 262 other people here :)
[06:37] <tony__> lol
[06:37] <tony__> no one talking
[06:37] <tony__> i need a bit of help
[06:37] <abattoir> tony__: with what?
[06:37] <tony__> i installed mail notifier from repo , but is not showing anywhere
[06:37] <tony__> it called xmail
[06:37] <tony__> i belive
[06:38] <abattoir> !info xmail
[06:38] <ubotu> xmail: advanced, fast and reliable ESMTP/POP3 mail server. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.22-2 (edgy), package size 196 kB, installed size 764 kB
[06:38] <abattoir> tony__: i don't think it's just a mail notifier
[06:38] <McGruff> dwidmann: is not getting an NVIDIA splashscreen normal?
[06:38] <McGruff> i got one with the other driver install
[06:38] <dwidmann> oops, I got beeped
[06:38] <tony__> well, the info on this program it says mail notifier
[06:38] <dwidmann> McGruff: well, the logo can be turned off
[06:39] <dwidmann> Check with nvidia-settings to see if you're using the right driver
[06:39] <McGruff> ok
[06:39] <McGruff> you aren't by chance familiar with Beryl are you?
[06:39] <abattoir> tony__: are you sure? it doesn't here
[06:39] <akrus> someone help me T_T
[06:40] <tony__> give me few second, i get the correct name
[06:40] <ForgeAus> I tried beryl
[06:40] <ForgeAus> installed it successfulyl
[06:40] <akrus> something's wrong with CUPS, it does not print anything except test page from web-interface ~_~
[06:40] <ForgeAus> just add the beryl repository to your sources.list in adept
[06:40] <akrus> http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/
[06:40] <tony__> it called xmailbox
[06:40] <akrus> :)
[06:41] <akrus> so had someone same problem with cups?
[06:41] <abattoir> tony__: aah ok... did you try running it?
[06:41] <tony__> i can not find the program to run
[06:41] <tony__> is not listed anywhere
[06:41] <tony__> and im not good with konsol
[06:41] <abattoir> tony__: open a konsole/terminal, and type 'xmailbox' (w/o the quotes)
[06:41] <akrus> 'Check if the following command is correct: cupsdoprint...'
[06:41] <tony__> ok
[06:41] <ForgeAus> I didn't actually get it to work because my PC crashed before I rebooted to try it out, but it wasn't beryl's fault that I know of
[06:42] <ForgeAus> the programs to configure it worked tho
[06:43] <mrreview> Hi i have a problem
[06:43] <mrreview> recently installed wine
[06:43] <ForgeAus> maybe it should have been called cubux :) rofl
[06:43] <mrreview> and i can0t run it :(
[06:43] <ForgeAus> awesome Wine!
[06:43] <ForgeAus> you can't?
[06:43] <ForgeAus> why not?
[06:43] <mrreview> here i can paste u the log
[06:44] <mrreview> http://phpfi.com/187962
[06:44] <tony__> thanks that workd, but the program sucks . lol
[06:44] <tony__> need to find something better
[06:44] <ForgeAus> mr review I doubt I could help you
[06:44] <ForgeAus> but I'll take a look
[06:44] <ForgeAus> it worked ok for me but I didn't come across any problems
[06:44] <mrreview> i asked on #winehq.. but nothing works
[06:45] <mrreview> they said me that i can try to ask here
[06:45] <ernz> Morning all
[06:45] <ernz> Does anyone know how I can retain bluetooth functionality if I were to switch back to Ubuntu?
[06:45] <ForgeAus> well theres more to wine than just running an executable
[06:46] <ForgeAus> are you familiar with GUI interfaces?
[06:46] <mrreview> hmm no
[06:46] <ForgeAus> if your using kubuntu theres an emulation addon package that combines this stuff
[06:46] <ForgeAus> otherwise your just going to have to read all the text that comes with wine and learn how to use it
[06:47] <ForgeAus> btw if you aren't using a gui how do you expect to use wine? lol
[06:47] <mrreview> well i think yes lol
[06:47] <mrreview> i0m using kubuntu,,.
[06:47] <ForgeAus> at the very least you'd need (I imagine) Xwindows...
[06:47] <mrreview> :P
[06:47] <ForgeAus> well from in kubuntu find the emulation addon package
[06:48] <ForgeAus> and it has wine tools in there
[06:48] <mrreview> wich name you know?
[06:49] <mrreview> libwine, libwine-deb, winefish
[06:49] <mrreview> only these 3 packages i can read
[06:51] <premier> hi.  I cant seem to access super user mode konquerer no matter what I do
[06:51] <McGruff> ok this is a problem with Beryl, which was working just fine yesterday but with all the nvidia strangeness it could be broken now, but this is what happens when i start beryl-manager, the screen turns into a screwed up photo negative
[06:51] <premier> I type into the console kdesu konquerer, right?
[06:52] <mrreview> premier, try to write this 'sudo konqueror'
[06:53] <matthew_> mrreview, it's better to use kdesu for graphical applications.
[06:54] <dwidmann> mcgruff, I've been here off and on, I hear it's a side effect of playing games and ircing at the same time :D I've no idea what the problem is with it mcgruff, what version of the nvidia driver do you have installed?
[06:57] <ForgeAus> whats the difference between kde-core and kubuntu-desktop?
[06:57] <McGruff> dwidmann: it's particularly annoying when it was working just a few hours ago
[06:57] <dwidmann> kde-core only installs a select few packages
[06:57] <dwidmann> namely kde-base, kdelibs, you know, barebones
[06:58] <ForgeAus> basically all the apps here: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde-core ?
[06:58] <ForgeAus> so does that mean ubuntu + kde-core would be an alternative to kubuntu?
[07:00] <dwidmann> It would be like having a vanilla kde with almost no apps installed, unless you're coming from gnome (ubuntu is such a vague word nowadays)
[07:01] <McGruff> dwidmann: actually i have nothing running on the desktop, but it just does the nutty screen warping, the funny part is the windows themselves move, i wish i could take a screenshot to illustrate the problem
[07:02] <ForgeAus> but you can add/update apps with core, all I read about it says its faster thats all
[07:02] <ForgeAus> is that because of the lack of apps or for another reason?
[07:02] <dwidmann> ForgeAus: I have some twisted mixture of kde-core and kubuntu :D
[07:03] <ForgeAus> lol
[07:03] <ForgeAus> I have kubuntu but I was thinking of switching the KDE to core
[07:03] <ForgeAus> then adding the extra apps ontop of it
[07:03] <dwidmann> ForgeAus: it's faster due to the lack of extra things installed, like for example, if you don't need wireless support, or laptop support, you don't need to have daemons running for it, etc
[07:03] <dwidmann> The more things that have to r un the slower you go
[07:04] <ForgeAus> ahh kewl laptop support... thats good to remove for me I don't need that
[07:04] <ForgeAus> wireless I'll probably keep tho... (I have a wireless multifunction/printer)
[07:04] <dwidmann> kubuntu installs a bunch of things per default, just because a lot of people need it (even though a lot of people don't)
[07:05] <ForgeAus> ie ark I'd like to remove
[07:05] <dwidmann> kde-core more or less needs to be done from a fresh text-only install to get much out of it.
[07:05] <ForgeAus> not that I'm against Konqueror but krusader + firefox seems a more likely solution to file manaagemnt browsing and archiving
[07:06] <premier> !eclipse
[07:06] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 121 kB, installed size 412 kB
[07:06] <ForgeAus> eclipse rox
[07:06] <ForgeAus> you need sun java tho
[07:06] <ForgeAus> lotsa plugins for it
[07:06] <ForgeAus> for various languages, uml, etc
[07:06] <dwidmann> ForgeAus: Konqueror is included in kde-core
[07:07] <ForgeAus> basically like an alternative Visual Studio-like environment
[07:07] <ForgeAus> yeah oh well Konqueror is kewl but theres a diff between having it and using it
[07:08] <dwidmann> I think you can change the default fm, I forget where to do that though, have to edit some config file, somewhere
[07:08] <max__> how can i add a partition to my fstab?
[07:09] <McGruff> and it appears that changing ANY setting in beryl-manager trips this problem
[07:09] <dwidmann> Pull up your fstab in <editor-of-choice> and add a line to the file ... the format would be like that of the other lines max__, but the details will differ
[07:09] <ForgeAus> McGruff sounds tuff I don't know how to help you
[07:09] <max__> where is fstab?
[07:09] <dwidmann> max__ /etc/fstab
[07:09] <dwidmann> !fstab | max__
[07:09] <ubotu> max__: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[07:09] <McGruff> hmmm the Beryl log did provide a possible clue
[07:10] <dwidmann> do tell
[07:10] <max__> thanks
[07:10] <McGruff> "No GLXFBConfig for default depth"
[07:11] <dwidmann> Hmm, google for "GLXBConfig depth" and see what you find I suppose
[07:12] <ForgeAus> wow I managed to make a shortcut to trash on my desktop using a url instead of file link!
[07:12] <ForgeAus> (ie used trash:/
[07:12] <ForgeAus> what other "pseudo" protocols are there that I should know about?
[07:12] <ForgeAus> back
[07:12] <ForgeAus> I got booted breifly
[07:12] <McGruff> doin that now actually
[07:13] <dwidmann> ForgeAus: I know a few
[07:13] <dwidmann> applications:/, settings:/
[07:13] <dwidmann> fish:/
[07:13] <dwidmann> smb:/
[07:13] <dwidmann> fonts:/ media:/ system:/
[07:13] <ForgeAus> wow
[07:13] <dwidmann> home:/ too I think
[07:14] <ForgeAus> so lotsa stuff from the menu?
[07:14] <ForgeAus> is there some kinda guide to them?
[07:14] <dwidmann> I'm not sure, I think they're called KIO slaves, but I was never too clear on that
[07:16] <towync> dum de dum
[07:16] <dwidmann> later
[07:16] <dwidmann> oops, too late
[07:16] <MarkF> can we install mythtv on kubuntu 6.10?
[07:17] <MarkF> ...question open to all
[07:18] <dwidmann> I don't see any reason why not
[07:19] <MarkF> does kubuntu come with myth?
[07:19] <ForgeAus> hmmm I can't access my video card's capture capabilities from within the VM I guess so MythTV is proably no use to me
[07:19] <ForgeAus> MarkF I don't hitnk so
[07:19] <ForgeAus> but it can be installed into it
[07:19] <MarkF> whats the command to install myth?
[07:20] <ForgeAus> I don't actually know it offhand
[07:20] <ForgeAus> um I found it in a repository, you'd have to go finding which one it come from to know
[07:20] <MarkF> Its never that easy anyway... thought Id ask
[07:21] <MarkF> thanks
[07:21] <ForgeAus> well thats the easiest way fi you browse for repoistories
[07:21] <ForgeAus> and just add them using manage repositories in adept
[07:21] <ForgeAus> you'll come across one sooner or later that has MythTV
[07:22] <ForgeAus> or browse for the website and see if you can instal lit from there?
[07:22] <MarkF> OK THANKS
[07:23] <ForgeAus> in essence... I don't know the one simple answer but I do know a way :)...
[07:23] <McGruff> ok this is odd, starting in 24 bit mode is what trips the NVIDIA splash screen
[07:24] <ForgeAus> McGruff, well your one step closer to solving the problem... at least now you know what it is
[07:24] <McGruff> found it
[07:24] <McGruff> it wasn't specified in 24 bit mode
[07:24] <McGruff> it was reset to 16 by the new driver
[07:24] <ForgeAus> what mode is it in?
[07:25] <McGruff> the driver install had overwritten the xorg.conf file
[07:25] <McGruff> i added the options back in but forgot about the bit mode
[07:25] <ForgeAus> sounds like a manual way of doing things :( but sometimes thats whats required
[07:26] <McGruff> hey i like an error that makes sense
[07:26] <McGruff> it's the baffling ones that seem to have no rational cause that drive me insane
[07:26] <ForgeAus> rofl
[07:26] <ForgeAus> so if I'm going to run beryl I should make sure I'm in a 16bit mode?
[07:28] <McGruff> I'm guessing so
[07:28] <McGruff> that would be helpful in the docs :)
[07:28] <ForgeAus> is there a way to uninstall ark without uninstalling all of kubuntu desktop?
[07:29] <McGruff> i think Ark is one of the basic apps
[07:29] <ForgeAus> or should I just leave it in and ignore it?
[07:30] <ForgeAus> because its a menu item in Konqueror?
[07:30] <ForgeAus> Krusader handles zips, 7z etc much nicer....
[07:50] <SAngeli> Hi, how to share my data between my gentoo and my new imac?
[07:50] <sl8_> is it possible to merge a ext3 and reiser partition into one without having to relocate data?
[07:53] <SAngeli> where is samba in kubuntu?
[07:56] <matthew_> SAngeli, sudo apt-cache search samba
[07:56] <SAngeli> matthew_, I am trying to migrate some of my data from my kubuntu to my new imac and do not know how to on my local network
[07:56] <SAngeli> what should I do withough going crazy?
[07:58] <matthew_> SAngeli, if you type in the konsole "sudo apt-cache search samba" w/o the quotes, it will list package names that relate to samba...if you're more inclined towards a gui, then do this: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[07:58] <matthew_> SAngeli, then you can search from within that...
[08:00] <SAngeli> but is not there a gui for samba so that all I have to do is run the application?
[08:02] <sl8_> you have to install it first.
[08:02] <SAngeli> I was under the impression that if I would like to share an entire disk I would do like in windows. I do not have skills for doing manual konsole comands.
[08:02] <SAngeli> I see
[08:02] <SAngeli> let me see if it is installed
[08:02] <SAngeli> I was under the impression it was already installed
[08:03] <matthew_> SAngeli, it may be...I'm not sure...I don't really use Samba for anything....
[08:03] <sl8_> try konqueror.. goto the folder, right click it, properties, sharing.....
[08:04] <Rob-West> does konqueror work in gnome
[08:05] <sl8_> not naturally I think...but if u install it I dont see why it couldnt
[08:06] <CSonicGo> hey uhm
[08:06] <Rob-West> well im using konversation
[08:07] <CSonicGo> how do you see all "sessions" of a DVD?
[08:07] <CSonicGo> I have 3 sessions on one DVD.
[08:07] <sl8_> launch konqueror then?
[08:09] <Rob-West> i dont have it installed
[08:11] <Rob-West> ill install it
[08:13] <sl8_> is it possible to merge ext3 and reiser partition into one without data loss
[08:20] <matthew_> Merry Christmas, everyone...
[08:25] <rich_> how come when I try to download liquidweather++ it's in binary form, can't save it
[08:25] <rich_> .skz
[08:25] <ForgeAus> still there sl8?
[08:25] <abattoir> rich_: rt. click and save as
[08:26] <ForgeAus> maybe you  can convert and join one of the partitions?
[08:26] <abattoir> rich_: for some reason it opens up in kate...
[08:26] <ForgeAus> (just a thought)
[08:26] <sl8_> yep
[08:26] <rich_> ok thanks
[08:27] <ForgeAus> converting means no dataloss, not sure how or if joining can work tho..
[08:27] <ForgeAus> you' dhave to know more about the partition first..
[08:27] <ForgeAus> erm sorry the types first
[08:27] <ForgeAus> what you can and cant do with each
[08:28] <ForgeAus> either that or you end up with 2 of the same types of part... ?
[08:28] <rich_> what do I do with the .skz file?
[08:28] <matthew_> rich_, you open it from within superkaramba
[08:28] <matthew_> rich_, actually, you tell superkaramba to use it...it's a widget...
[08:29] <rich_> crashes everytime I open it with karamba
[08:29] <sl8_> hmm what if i just mount it to the same mount point as my other partition? its my old home folder
[08:29] <matthew_> rich_, did you save it from Kate?
[08:30] <rich_> yeah
[08:30] <matthew_> rich_, are you using karamba or superkaramba?
[08:30] <rich_> superkaramba
[08:30] <matthew_> rich_, that's bad...it corrupted the file.
[08:31] <matthew_> rich_,  you need to "save link as" from the website...
[08:31] <rich_> ok
[08:32] <matthew_> rich_,  you need to "save link as" from the website...if you d/l'ed it from a website...if you got it from within the superkaramba app...then I don't know...
[08:33] <towync> what's the channel for beryl?
[08:33] <towync> is it #ubuntu-xgl?
[08:33] <matthew_> #beryl   ?
[08:33] <towync> i don't know, there was one that started with #ubuntu
[08:33] <matthew_> hmm
[08:33] <towync> more specifically, i need to find the person helping me yesterday in that channel hehe
[08:33] <towync> i think the screen name was pricechild
[08:34] <towync> that's why i was trying to get back to that channel lol
[08:34] <rich_> I saved it as "save as" its a php file, what do I do now?
[08:34] <ForgeAus> easy do a whois
[08:34] <ForgeAus> they dont look like they're online righ tnow
[08:34] <ForgeAus> either that or they're using a different nick
[08:35] <towync> cool thx ForgeAus
[08:35] <ForgeAus> (or in some kinda stealth mode that /whois doesn't find them)
[08:35] <matthew_> rich_, I'm guessing either liquidweather or glass monitor...I had the same problem...try another mirror
[08:35] <towync> whois PriceChild
[08:35] <towync> like that?
[08:35] <ForgeAus> witha  / first
[08:35] <towync> o cool
[08:35] <towync> cool thx
[08:36] <matthew_> rich_, I'm going to go eat something...brb
[08:38] <momal> !skype
[08:38] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[08:40] <rich_> liquid weather is stuck on "loading, please wait..." any ideas?
[08:50] <Rob-West> how can i change my away reason in Konversation
[08:51] <ForgeAus> I would have said configure notifications but   I'm not sure its there
[08:57] <LBB> dwidmann fell asleep for a bit there...  testdisk finds a separate partition for my /home and / when the nr of heads is on its default 16, but tells me i should switch nrofheads to 8, when I do that and rescan it doesn't find my / and my /home, but it finds an lvm instead (wich is correct). I am no able to mount my / or /home though, i get the same "already mounted msg as before. Any ideas?
[08:58] <dwidmann> LBB: I'm surprised I haven't myself hehe
[08:58] <dwidmann> I'm not sure
[08:59] <dwidmann> I know it would be a pain, but if you have things backed up (which I suggested you do a while ago), a repartitioning from scratch would be easier. I'd understand if that isn't an option though.
[09:01] <LBB> dwidmann I'd rather go for the hard way and learn something (there IS a hard way, right? :) )
[09:02] <dwidmann> I hope so, I'm just throwing out the failsafe. Personally, I'd play around with parted's rescue command some more and perhaps testdisk also, and see if I couldn't get things back up and running
[09:03] <LBB> dwidmann suggestions on how to do that?
[09:03] <ForgeAus> grrrr kde is bloatware, I can't uninstall ark or qtparted (ie to replace them with other apps) without removing kubuntu-desktop
[09:04] <ForgeAus> lack of customizing :(
[09:04] <dwidmann> ForgeAus: That's the fault of the kubuntu metapackage, not the fault of kde
[09:04] <dwidmann> if that metapackage is removed, it won't hurt anything
[09:06] <dwidmann> Basically, the job of the distribution is to come up with a set of defaults that appeals to most people, they're never going to please _everybody_.
[09:12] <ForgeAus> dwi thats fine I'm not concerned about the set of apps I'm concerned about the modularity of them
[09:13] <ForgeAus> they're not independant apps they're reliant on eachtoher :( it doesn't allow for choice that way...
[09:14] <racarr> Anyone have any advice on where to start if my bluetooth device isn't showing up anywhere?
[09:15] <LBB> racarr did you check system settings?
[09:15] <dwidmann> ForgeAus: there is plenty of choice there, just remove the metapackage, you still have everything, and you'll never get that message again
[09:15] <racarr> LBB: Haven't seen anything...but it's not showing up with hcitool
[09:16] <dwidmann> ForgeAus: for example, I don't have that metapackage installed, personally, I thought it was kind of annoying
[09:16] <racarr> Err
[09:16] <racarr> Device was the wrong term there
[09:16] <racarr> Bluetooth chip
[09:17] <LBB> dwidmann what else can i try in  testdisk?
[09:18] <LBB> racarr dont understand, did you or didnt you use "system settings"?
[09:18] <dwidmann> erm, LBB, I'm not sure, the problems I had were different(not quite as bad)
[09:19] <racarr> LBB: I looked, but theres nothing there, that's for connecting devices to the bluetooth chip not getting the bluetooth chip working
[09:19] <dwidmann> testdisk did what I wanted it to do for me both times I trashed my partition table, and on the first go at that
[09:19] <LBB> dwidmann any idea whats up with th nr of heads?
[09:20] <dwidmann> not a clue
[09:20] <LBB> racarr: then I'm afraid i don't know
[09:20] <dwidmann> I'll consult the all knowing google for advice
[09:22] <Crell> Hi folks.  I've an odd issue.  I've a recently installed Edgy desktop.  Earlier, sound was functioning as I could play music just fine.  When I tried it just now, however, audio is not being produced.  Programs that play sound are not reporting any errors, but I get no sound.  I've already tried checking the master software volume and swapping speakers to no avail, so it's not dumb user error (or at least not very-dumb user error <g>).
[09:22] <Crell> Any ideas what else to check?
[09:22] <racarr> I think maybe it's ACPI...
[09:23] <Crell> The "Test Sound" button in System Settings plays nothing but gives no errors either.
[09:23] <JOSF> Help! I installed several packages (all using adept_manager) and now lots of programs won't start. The error I get is: adept_manager: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libXft.so.2: undefined symbol: FT_Library_SetLcdFilter
[09:23] <LBB> Crell do you get system-sounds?
[09:23] <JOSF> What do I need to do now in order to resolve the problem ? I am on Edgy.
[09:24] <Crell> LBB: You mean general beeps and such?  Nope.  No audio at all, although the software behaves as if it's playing.
[09:25] <LBB> Crell have you got another os you can test
[09:25] <JOSF> jj/join #linuxhelp
[09:25] <JOSF> sorry
[09:26] <Crell> No, it's single-boot.  And the Kubuntu Live CD doesn't boot properly on this box either; it has garbled video, and I had to install from an alternate install CD and then install the nvidia drivers before I got any video at all.
[09:27] <LBB> Crell any other live-cd's available?
[09:28] <Crell> Um.  I think I've an old Breezy Live CD I've not used in forever. :-)
[09:28] <dwidmann> When it comes to live cds, can't go wrong with knoppix
[09:28] <LBB> its just to double check for human errors...
[09:29] <weiers> Hi, I've just installed kubuntu edgy (I'm used to ubuntu) and my first problem is that it would seem that I can only access 817 packages (already installed) via adept. I've edited the repository list to contain all the universe and multiverse repositories, but nothing new shows up. What am I doing wrong?
[09:29] <Crell> I think I've a very old Knoppix around here somewhere.
[09:29] <Crell> I'll give one of them a whirl and be back in a few min, I guess. :-/
[09:31] <LBB> dwidmann did you find anything? / what did you search for?
[09:31] <weiers> Would kubuntu automatically connect to the repositories through my proxy? (I have it specified under the network settings)
[09:31] <seven11> weiers: did jo check under system adept manager
[09:31] <dwidmann> I tried searching for partition numer of heads, but I'm getting rather generic results
[09:31] <weiers> seven11, yes ... I configured the sources.conf in there
[09:31] <LBB> hmm
[09:33] <seven11> weiers: i have 20206 packages there
[09:34] <weiers> seven, that is what confuses me
[09:35] <seven11> weiers: your sourcetext has universe and multiverse enabled?
[09:35] <weiers> synaptic in ubuntu gives me as much
[09:35] <weiers> seven11 yes
[09:35] <weiers> I get the impression that it is not connecting to the internet
[09:35] <weiers> but just looking at what is available on the cd
[09:36] <weiers> I do have internet access - and can browse the web
[09:36] <weiers> but I cannot install firefox or thunderbird
[09:38] <seven11> weiers: check /etc/apt/sources.list again
[09:40] <Crell> LBB: Hi again.  Breezy Live CD had garbled video, but audio worked fine.
[09:41] <LBB> Crell: el at least now you know for sure its a software problem
[09:41] <Crell> Yep.
[09:41] <weiers> seven11, I've once again checked it
[09:41] <Crell> Any suggestions as to what sort?
[09:42] <LBB> Crell did you check wich driver you're using?
[09:42] <Crell> It's set to Auto.  I'm switching it to alsa now to see what happens.
[09:42] <Crell> No change.
[09:42] <Crell> No change if set to OSS, either.
[09:43] <Crell> The card is an SB Live! emu10k1, so it's well-supported.  lsmod is also reporting a ton of snd drivers loaded, including emu10k1.
[09:45] <Crell> ... OK, wait.  wtf.
[09:46] <Crell> Here's a different question... My system has 2 sound devices; onboard sound and the SB Live.  I thought the onboard was disabled, but apparently it's not and Kubuntu keeps trying to use that instead. o_O.  How would I convince it otherwise?
[09:46] <Eyeless> Crell: i had the same problem, i managed to disable the built in card somehow
[09:47] <Crell> Hrm.  I THOUGHT it was disabled in the BIOS.
[09:47] <Crell> At least my old Debian system on here never picked up the onboard sound.
[09:47] <Eyeless> i "think" you do that in one of the alsa-config files
[09:48] <Crell> Any idea which?
[09:48] <LBB> crell did you try override device location?
[09:48] <Eyeless> nope, but i googled it and found a thread on rhe ubuntu forums
[09:48] <LBB> in system settings/sound
[09:49] <seven11> anyone know if i can scan a xp on the network for virus from linux
[09:49] <Crell> LBB: Um, I see no option there to change the device.
[09:49] <Crell> Oh, wait, I see it.
[09:50] <Crell> What would I override it with?
[09:50] <LBB> crell not sure but i'd guess /dev/something
[09:51] <Crell> That only gives me 698 possibilites. :-)
[09:51] <Eyeless> Crell: not much, if you dont have souround i dont think there even is one
[09:51] <Crell> I've 4.1 speakers, but they're not the greatest speakers.
[09:52] <Eyeless> ahh well then atleast its woth the hassle
[09:53] <rich_> what do I save a .skz file as at a mirror? it automatically goes to kate
[09:53] <LBB> Crell btw are you saying you do get sound on the onboard?
[09:53] <Crell> I don't have the rear speakers behind me, of course.  Just wider in front. :-)
[09:53] <Crell> LBB: Yes.  If I leave Kubuntu to its own devices (no pun intended), then it's apparently generating sound just fine via the onboard sound chip.
[09:53] <Crell> Which I thought I had disabled, as it's not been used in, well, ever.
[09:54] <Crell> I want it to use the SB Live card instead.
[09:54] <LBB> what do you mean apparently, didnt you test it?
[09:54] <Crell> I did.
[09:55] <Crell> Manually specifying /dev/audio1 or /dev/audio0 in the sound system config panel results in no audio from anything.
[09:56] <LBB> Crell can you check wich dev is used in the other os?
[09:56] <Crell> No, because I can't get actual video out of it for some reason.
[09:57] <LBB> Crell how about that old knoppix?
[09:57] <Crell> It's from the same era as the Breezy CD, so I doubt it.
[09:57] <Crell> I wonder if the onboard audio is fully disabled in the BIOS.  I thought it was, but now I'm not so sure.
[09:58] <Crell> I'm going to reboot and check.  BBIAB.
[10:00] <LBB> I'm off to bed, dwidmann, thx a lot for your help, see you later!
[10:00] <dwidmann> good night
[10:01] <dwidmann> and you're welcome :)
[10:01] <rich_> in a mirror for a .skz file how do I save it as it is without corrupting it by opening kate up, which utlity should I use?
[10:02] <matthew_> rich_, hey, sorry, I totally forgot about you...the turkey and stuffing were just too much for me...lol
[10:02] <Eyeless> Crell: the file you need to check is: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[10:02] <rich_> no problem
[10:02] <matthew_> rich_, still need help, I take it?
[10:03] <rich_> yeah
[10:03] <Crell> So apparently it was enabled. Why it never caused a problem on my old Sid system I don't know, but I disabled it and now Kubuntu is picking up the SB Live no problem.
[10:03] <matthew_> rich_, ok, which widget did you want?
[10:03] <rich_> liquid weather ++
[10:03] <Eyeless> Crell: goodie, no need to edit strange files then :P
[10:03] <Crell> Always a plus. :-)
[10:03] <matthew_> rich_, ok...h/o
[10:04] <Crell> Thanks all.
[10:06] <matthew_> rich_, are you getting it from here?       http://liquidweather.net/downloads.php
[10:06] <max__> Hi i have a problem, i have a 2gb partirion on my HD, it shows up inder Storage Media but when i go to put somthing on it it says "an unknown error has occured"
[10:07] <matthew_> max__, you need to mount it first, I think.
[10:07] <rich_> yes that site
[10:07] <matthew_> rich_, ok...which mirror did you try to get it from?
[10:07] <rich_> 1
[10:07] <rich_> should I save it as php file?
[10:07] <rich_> otherwise kate opens it
[10:08] <matthew_> rich_, no, just try to download it from a different mirror...2,3, or 4...
[10:09] <max__> matthew: how do i mount it
[10:09] <matthew_> left-click...don't do a "save-as"
[10:09] <rich_> ok
[10:09] <matthew_> max__, sudo mount /dev/device_number               <----type that in a terminal if you know the device_number (ie hda1, hdb2, etc...)
[10:10] <matthew_> rich_, did they all fail?
[10:10] <rich_> it's in kate
[10:11] <matthew_> all of them?
[10:11] <rich_> yeah
[10:11] <matthew_> hmmm
[10:11] <rich_> should I save it even though it says it will corrupt?
[10:11] <matthew_> rich_, no, it will corrupt.
[10:11] <matthew_> rich_, actually, give that a shot...I may have done that, too...lol, I can't remember
[10:16] <matthew_> rich_, did that work?
[10:16] <sebbar> hello everybody. On dapper my sister configured kopete (even if she doesn't remember how) to use random colors for her text messages. Now she's on edgy and wants this behaviour back... does anybody know hot to configure this?
[10:20] <sebbar> nevermind I found it under plugins
[10:20] <rich_> nope
[10:20] <matthew_> rich_, bummer...sorry, but I'm out of ideas...lol
[10:28] <kev1n> i need some assistance with kubuntu related issues
[10:28] <unix_infidel> !ask
[10:28] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:28] <kev1n> this has to do with dual booting..
[10:29] <kev1n> i have just installed edgy
[10:29] <kev1n> and now i cannot get into windows at all
[10:29] <kev1n> i come up with a missing or corrupt ha1.dll file
[10:29] <kev1n> i have read about it via googling
[10:30] <kev1n> but i cant seem to get myself into windows at all
[10:31] <kev1n> i need help from someone to get to the windows area via grub...
[10:32] <kev1n> all this appears to have come from a known critical bug in edgy
[10:32] <sebbar> could you link to the bug report?
[10:32] <kev1n> wait one... i will get it up
[10:35] <computer> did firefox come with kubuntu edgy?
[10:36] <computer> i had firefox working earlier before i reinstalled kubuntu
[10:36] <computer> but i forget how i got firefox last time
[10:36] <sonicGB> computer: what is 'edgy' in numbers?
[10:36] <computer> if it came with kubuntu could someone tell me where it is?
[10:36] <computer> 6.10
[10:36] <computer> sonicGB i think edgy is 6.10
[10:36] <sonicGB> ok, giz a minute, I'll check, I have kubuntu 6.10 on my other laptop
[10:37] <sebbar> :computer no it doesn't, just sudo apt-get install firefox or use adept
[10:37] <computer> cool thx sebbar
[10:37] <sebbar> or try konqueror as a browser option, works quite nicely as well
[10:38] <computer> i don't like konqueror that much for some reason =) i don't know why, lol
[10:38] <matthew_> computer, try sudo apt-get install firefox-bin
[10:38] <matthew_> or swiftfox-bin...
[10:39] <computer> can i do adept manager and then search and install firefox?
[10:39] <matthew_> computer, yes, but synaptic might be safer (no chance of wiping your machine...)
[10:39] <computer> i'd like to get the latest version firefox tho, unless that's complicated then i'll pass and do the simplest way =)
[10:39] <sonicGB> thanks sebbar, my answer isn't all that good anyway. Mine does have Firefox on it, but it's in a non-standard place, so I can't be sure that I didn't install it after the event!
[10:40] <rich_> anyone know what program I can save .skz files to?
[10:40] <computer> sonicGB thx alot for looking it up for me =)
[10:40] <matthew_> computer, I think the stuff in the repo's (firefox, at least) is recent.
[10:40] <computer> matthew_ cool, do i have synaptic tho, i'm using kubuntu, if not, is there an equivalent?
[10:41] <matthew_> !synaptic | computer
[10:41] <ubotu> computer: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[10:41] <computer> cool
[10:41] <matthew_> computer, sudo apt-get install synaptic
[10:41] <sonicGB> u most welcome computer
[10:41] <sebbar> I always used adept with no problems at all :-)
[10:41] <gnomefreak> why not sudo apt-get install firefox
[10:42] <computer> matthew_ k thx
[10:42] <matthew_> sebbar, I wiped my installation using adept...totally sucked!
[10:42] <sonicGB> gnomefreak: 'cos not everyone likes command lines :-)
[10:42] <matthew_> computer, np
[10:42] <gnomefreak> sonicGB: he just told him to sudo apt-ge tinstall synaptic
[10:42] <matthew_> sonicGB, If you use linux, the CLI _will_ come into ply
[10:42] <gnomefreak> why not skip the non usefull step
[10:43] <matthew_> gnomefreak, why not install a piece of software that is very useful and safe?
[10:43] <gnomefreak> matthew_: adept is safe
[10:43] <matthew_> gnomefreak, adept has not proven safe in my experience with it.
[10:43] <gnomefreak> its missing some nice features but its as safe as synaptic
[10:43] <matthew_> !worksforme | gnomefreak
[10:43] <ubotu> gnomefreak: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[10:43] <sonicGB> matthew_: having administered some twelve different flavours of *nix over the past 15 years or so, I reckon I've seen a CLI or two in my time. However, I've also supported one or two folks who get a bit out of sorts when asked to type 'commands', so I try to keep an open mind about what works for what folks... :-)
[10:44] <matthew_> sonicGB, lol, very true...sorry if I touched a nerve...
[10:44] <gnomefreak> matthew_: if you mess up in synatptic or adept same results will be seen
[10:44] <matthew_> gnomefreak, I'm not sure that you can w/ synaptic...unless you uninstall something essential...
[10:45] <gnomefreak> matthew_: do as you wish but both do essentially the same thing
[10:45] <gnomefreak> just as smartpm does
[10:46] <matthew_> gnomefreak, very true. In my estimation (flawed as it may be), synaptic is better.
[10:46] <sonicGB> computer: in Kubuntu, clicking 'start' (the 'K' icon) and "Add/Remove Programs" gets you 'Adept' installer. Change the 'KDE' to 'Any Suite' and search for 'Firefox' (and 'synaptic' for that matter. Synaptic is more nicerer!!!)
[10:46] <computer> firefox is working! thx so much everyone for the input, hope i didn't start any bad karma lol, but it was great seeing the discussions, i could prolly learn something googling the stuff i saw earlier =)
[10:46] <gnomefreak> matthew_: i agree it is better (more features) but if you can mess up in one you can do same in the other
[10:46] <computer> cool thx sonicGB =)
[10:46] <matthew_> compilerwriter, glad to hear it.
[10:46] <matthew_> whoops...^^^^^^^^^@ computer
[10:47] <computer> hehe i saw compilerwriter in here couple days ago too =)
[10:47] <sonicGB> matthew_: no worries... :-)
[10:47] <matthew_> !smartpm > matthew_
[10:47] <computer> he helped me with something but i forgot what it was, i usually have a bunch of questions in here lol
[10:47] <matthew_> computer, yeah, me too...just remember to pay it forward!
[10:47] <sonicGB> computer: what everyone here is saying about 'synaptic' is good advice. If you like more information/more control, synaptic will give it to you.
[10:48] <computer> ic
[10:49] <sebbar> is smartpm going to make it into feisty?
[10:49] <computer> yeah i wanted to use synaptic at first cuz i saw it occur frequently in forums, but then the first time i used kubuntu i had no idea where to look up synaptic, and after awhile i just thought synatpic is only for ubuntu for some reason, anywayys =)
[10:49] <gnomefreak> adept is missing some very good features that synaptic has. and its not looking good that it will change since they are lacking devels on it. but give root to anyone you can screw anything up
[10:49] <gnomefreak> sebbar: its on edgy and dapper also
[10:50] <sebbar> :gnomefreak yeah but I'd like to see it installed by default
[10:50] <gnomefreak> sebbar: the .50 will be in feisty and it fixes alot of bugs that were found in other versions
[10:50] <fdoving> sebbar: it is in universe, and has been for some time. i doubt it will become the default anytime soon.
[10:50] <gnomefreak> sebbar: no it wont be
[10:50] <sebbar> ok tnx
[10:50] <sonicGB> computer: for future reference, a lot of the default stuff is different between ubuntu and kubuntu, but kubuntu includes all the gnomey-stuff that is required to install the ubuntu stuff, so if something you read about/want isn't there, just install it! :-)
[10:50] <computer> matthew_ will certainly try to pay it forward, although i'm still very much newbie, but i can sure say i can help with wireless setup now (had to do it again today lol), but i guess most people in here already have internet setup =)
[10:51] <sonicGB> computer: hang on here. Soon enough you'll find folks more n00b than you asking questions that you know the answer too, and you'll be able to help :-)
[10:51] <computer> sonicGB cool, it's good i get that cleared up cuz i was always a little fuzzy about what i thought i can/cannot use
[10:52] <computer> sonicGB yeah looking forward to that =)
[10:52] <sonicGB> computer: by way of example, the stuff I just told you about gnomey-stuff being included in kubuntu... I only learned that about three days ago :-) :-) :-)
[10:52] <computer> sonicGB hehe cool!
[10:52] <matthew_> computer, lol, yeah, guess so, hee hee hee
[10:53] <computer> yup =)
[10:53] <sonicGB> now... does anyone else have a kubuntu-specific quesiton for me, or can I shut down this bleating laptop on my left? :-) :-)
[10:54] <matthew_> go for it sonicGB ....I'm man the fort for awhile...
[10:54] <matthew_> watching season 2 of lost...it's so good!
[10:54] <computer> yeah thx alot sonicGB, i'm pretty much done today, g2g sleep soon lol
[10:55] <rich_> what program should I save ,skz files in, kate keeps corrupting them, (trying to install liquid weather ++
[10:55] <computer> matthew_ maybe i should start watching lost, i've never seen even one episode of that show tho, but lots of people around me watches it
[10:56] <fdoving> rich_: it's .zip files afaik.
[10:56] <matthew_> computer, you can find the torrents for seasons 1 and 2 on torrentspy.com
[10:56] <computer> matthew_ cool, are they on season 3 now?
[10:56] <fdoving> !offtopic
[10:56] <matthew_> yeah, on tv...gotta d/l the episodes, one by one...bleagh...not looking forward to it...
[10:56] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[10:57] <computer> cool =)
[10:57] <rich_> fdoving, afaik means what?
[10:57] <matthew_> as far as I know
[10:57] <fdoving> rich_: as far as i know.
[10:57] <matthew_> fdoving, sorry...
[10:57] <computer> haha alrighty, sorry bout the offtopic =)
[10:58] <matthew_> computer, I'm pretty sure he was talking to me...well, me and sonicGB
[10:58] <kev1n> sebbar... when i want to find the bug report.... guess what...i cannot find it.... i will keep looking....
[10:59] <sonicGB> fdoving is apokryphos' other /nick?
[10:59] <computer> hehe well i ethusiastically joined the discussion
[11:00] <matthew_> ah, well....so, anyone have any questions for me?
[11:01] <kev1n> sebbar..... the bug report is #67130 in https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+source/ubiquity/+bug/67130
[11:01] <sonicGB> computer: tread carefully... for the most part, these channels embrace the whole ubuntu thing, helping, supporting, etc, etc, but occasionally you get an op who feels the need to assert his authoritah... you've gotta watch those :-/    anyway... synaptic is definitately the more informative of the gui app managers....
[11:02] <matthew_> sonicGB, heh, authoritah
[11:02] <matthew_> sonicGB, just got your pm...no worries!
[11:02] <sonicGB> :-)
[11:02] <kev1n> what i have done is tried to get the install working and eventually did bu going back a step and manually organising the partitions..... but it seems to have corrupted or over written a windows required file
[11:03] <matthew_> kev1n, the mbr?
[11:04] <fdoving> sonicGB: i'm not apokryp, no. i'm me.
[11:04] <matthew_> kev1n, or something different than that?
[11:05] <sonicGB> no worries fdoving, sometimes it's hard to tell the difference between folks on irc... no faces to put to names, etc, etc, you've just gotta go on attitudes and actions... such is the medium :-)
[11:05] <matthew_> lol @ sonicGB
[11:05] <sonicGB> kev1n: can you spell out (forgive my ignorance) the base problem you having? what is happening that's giving you grief?
[11:05] <sonicGB> s/you/you're/;
[11:06] <matthew_> sonicGB, what's that all about? the s/you/you're/;      ?
[11:06] <matthew_> corrections?
[11:06] <matthew_> hey, racarr!
[11:06] <sonicGB> matthew_: typo in my previous line, so I invoked a regex to search for "you", replace with "you're" :-)
[11:07] <racarr> Hi matthew_
[11:07] <fdoving> sonicGB: there is /whois nickname, which will give you some information on the users if they provide any. atleast I provide some info.
[11:07] <matthew_> sonicGB, gotcha
[11:07] <matthew_> racarr, everything goin' ok?
[11:07] <sonicGB> matthew_: I suspect I'm lagged a bit..
[11:08] <matthew_> sonicGB, in what fashion?
[11:08] <computer> snoicGB, matthew_ cool now i got synaptics running too, it didn't take all this time to get it running, i went to grab something to eat lol, anyways, thx u guys, and see you later, g2g sleep now =)
[11:08] <sonicGB> matthew_: well, my s/blah/blahblah/ was sent before your "what's that all about", but your response seemed to sugged that it was after
[11:08] <racarr> matthew_: Yeah...tired, heh
[11:09] <sonicGB> computer: glad we could help! :-)
[11:09] <matthew_> sonicGB, ah
[11:10] <matthew_> sonicGB, is the s/blah/blahx    a command line command, or special to an app like vi or vim?
[11:10] <matthew_> racarr, lol, it's quarter past 2 in the morning here...
[11:10] <racarr> matthew_: Quarter past 4 here, hehe
[11:10] <sonicGB> matthew_: the specific invocation is vi/vim-like.... <esc>%s/search/replace/g<enter> works in vi/vim
[11:10] <racarr> matthew_: s/bla/blahx is mostly generic, you could use sed or perl or something to invoke it at the command line, vi/vim will take it...etc
[11:11] <sonicGB> but what racarr said... it's ~almost~ generic
[11:11] <matthew_> gotcha'll
[11:11] <sonicGB> regex's are like most things... they're *almost* standard across-the-board :-)
[11:12] <matthew_> nice...
[11:12] <racarr> sort of
[11:12] <sonicGB> :-)
[11:16] <kev1n> sonicGB...sorry... iwas away for a little bit
[11:16] <sonicGB> no worries kev1n ... do you still need our help?
[11:17] <matthew_> kev1n, I'm going to bed half an hour...until then, I'm all yours...
[11:17] <kev1n> the problem was caused by installing kubuntu 6.10 on my windoze computer as a dual boot thingy
[11:17] <kev1n> i did this to learn linux before going full time an a few months time
[11:17] <kev1n> but i can now access linux through grub
[11:17] <matthew_> kev1n, so, what file that windows needs got erased?
[11:17] <kev1n> ha1.dll
[11:18] <matthew_> 4d
[11:18] <kev1n> thats the file that seems to be corrupted or missing
[11:18] <matthew_> kev1n, sorry, I'm not help...but I can google around, if you like?
[11:18] <kev1n> i cant get past that point when moving back into windows even in safe mode
[11:19] <rich_> are you able to download the .skz and save them fine, matthew?
[11:19] <kev1n> thanks matt.... can you do that... i have
[11:19] <matthew_> kev1n, have you tried the recovery console w/ windows?
[11:19] <kev1n> but have not had any luck
[11:19] <matthew_> kev1n, have you tried the recovery console w/ windows?
[11:19] <kev1n> uummm.... i have thought about that matthew...
[11:19] <sonicGB> kev1n: hall.dll sounds.. ouch... need more info though... how do you know that hal.dll is giving you grief... stepps you're taking to arrive at that, etc?
[11:19] <kev1n> but i dont have recovery console
[11:20] <kev1n> through grub...
[11:20] <matthew_> kev1n, you can boot from the windows disk and enter into a recovery console.
[11:20] <kev1n> when i click on windows to go into a windows screen...
[11:20] <matthew_> kev1n, no, you need the install disk for windows XP
[11:20] <kev1n> i get a message that i cant go any further
[11:20] <sonicGB> which windows screen? the black-with0widnows-logo booty thing?
[11:20] <matthew_> kev1n, no, you need the install disk for windows XP
[11:21] <kev1n> anf that the file ha1.dll in windows/root/system32 is corrupt or missing
[11:22] <matthew_> kev1n, do you have the disk that you can install windows XP from? Or is your windows an extra legal one?
[11:22] <kev1n> i have used the install disk on three different partitions on my two hard drives to no avail
[11:22] <sonicGB> ok, matthew_ and I are on different pages here, and tripping over each other... I'll step back until someone says I'm needed! :-) :-)
[11:22] <matthew_> sonicGB, thanks...
[11:23] <kev1n> i am using kubuntu right now.... it installed quite easily in the end
[11:23] <matthew_> kev1n, ok, you need to do this: Boot from the windows XP install disk. hit 'R' at the blue screen where it says "hit enter to install". then type in chkdsk /P
[11:24] <kev1n> ah...... that last comment i have not been doing....
[11:24] <kev1n> the chkdsk bit..
[11:24] <kev1n> that makes sense to me
[11:24] <matthew_> kev1n, actually, after you hit 'R', you need to hit 1, or whatever partition it's on, don't worry you'll see it.
[11:24] <kev1n> yeah... i have seen the partition things many times!
[11:24] <kev1n> thanks matthew ...thanks heaps
[11:25] <matthew_> kev1n, np
[11:25] <gundam00> please help. No usb's with Edgy
[11:25] <matthew_> sonicGB, just so you know, I don't think I can respond to your pm's...sorry
[11:25] <sonicGB> matthew_: no worries! :-)
[11:26] <matthew_> k...
[11:26] <sonicGB> just wink twice if you accept my offer of drinks and dinner, and once if... oops... forget I spoke :-)
[11:27] <matthew_> lol
[11:27] <sonicGB> (and slap me upside the head if I'm teaching you how to suck eggs!)
[11:27] <matthew_> sonicGB, huh?
[11:27] <sonicGB> forget it! :-)
[11:28] <sonicGB> how is kev1n going I wonder?
[11:29] <kev1n> i have not tried that as yet sonicgb
[11:29] <goodthing> ok, i have done a mistake with chmod. My raid looks dead now...
[11:29] <kev1n> i need to reboot to do what i need to do...
[11:29] <kev1n> i will be online again at this time tomorrow
[11:29] <sonicGB> kev1n: are you right to get back on with a live CD if you need our help some more?
[11:30] <sonicGB> I hate sending people of to do mysterious things in winders-land or boot-land, but sometimes it must be done!
[11:30] <sonicGB> s/of/off/
[11:31] <goodthing> guys, i did sudo chmod -R 660 /media/backup/. my raid, how bad is that?
[11:31] <kev1n> yes... i can sonicgb
[11:31] <kev1n> no problems... what matthew has said makes sense to me..
[11:31] <sonicGB> kev1n: cool
[11:31] <kev1n> i should be right from there!
[11:32] <kev1n> np
[11:32] <kev1n> thanks heaps sonicgb
[11:32] <sonicGB> kev1n: it makes perfect sense to me too.. you should be fine
[11:32] <sonicGB> goodthing: it's not inherently bad.... what grief are you getting specifically?
[11:33] <goodthing> sonicGB: just no access, but i re-checked the button for open from konqueror and all seems fine again :)
[11:34] <sonicGB> goodthing: I love it when a plan comes together :-)
[11:34] <sonicGB> goodthing: however... do you know if your RAID is actually raiding? if this is important to you (and I'm guessing that you wouldn't have RAID at all if it wasn't) then you should poke around to confirm that it is...
[11:35] <sonicGB> there's really nothing much worse than an elaborate backup plan that turns out to have not been working, but you don't know that it's not working until you need it to have worked :-/
[11:36] <sonicGB> hey computer, towync ...
[11:37] <sonicGB> all good?
[11:37] <towync> yup
[11:37] <sonicGB> cool :-)
[11:37] <goodthing> sonicGB: Hmm, how could i check that? $ watch cat /proc/mdstat ?
[11:38] <towync> it's 2:37am now lol
[11:38] <sonicGB> goodthing: you seem to have your wits well about you already, pardon me if I'm teaching you how to suck eggs....
[11:38] <sonicGB> knowing what's going on in /proc/mdtstat is a good thing... watching is even better
[11:39] <goodthing> sonicGB: there is nothing wrong with trying to be helpfull. Thanks for the care
[11:40] <ForgeAus> wow kopete is interesting as an IRC client! lol
[11:40] <ForgeAus> not exactly what its meant for but its still interesting... kinda like Trillian I guess...
[11:41] <ForgeAus> actions don't get highlighted well tho
[11:41] <Sharketor> hello all
[11:41] <ForgeAus> hey sharky :)
[11:42] <Sharketor> libglib-dev and glib-dev are the same thing????
[11:42] <jim__> Looking for suggestions. tried to install a windows program with wine.. the .exe left a file in my /home, and this file has 0 bytes, says it does exist when i try to delete it, or rm it.
[11:42] <jim__> very strange..
[11:42] <ForgeAus> yes very strange
[11:42] <Sharketor> hi ForgeAus
[11:42] <ForgeAus> sharky I have no idea... they sound quite similar tho
[11:43] <sonicGB> u welcome goodthing
[11:44] <sonicGB> ForgeAus: I thought kopete did a pretty good job actually!
[11:44] <ForgeAus> Sonic, it does... seems to anyway..
[11:44] <ForgeAus> its just.. not like what I'm used to I guess
[11:44] <ForgeAus> big pretties for each message
[11:45] <sonicGB> if the msn support is not what you want, aMSN might be worth a look. It runs on winders, linux, osx.... it seems to cover almost everything that the original (evil) msn does!
[11:47] <ForgeAus> lol the original MSN was practically malware!... more like annoyware I guess...
[11:47] <sonicGB> malware works for me!
[11:48] <sonicGB> aMSN is a little bit evil actually... records webcam chats, records people's avatars, etc...
[11:48] <sonicGB> :-)
[11:48] <lupine_85> kopete ftw
[11:49] <sonicGB> "kopete forever two wheels"?
[11:49] <ForgeAus> kopetes nice, add a scripting engine and voila!
[11:49] <sonicGB> w00t
[11:50] <matthew_> sonicGB, lol, for the win...but you already knew that...didn't you?
[11:50] <matthew_> k, I'm going to bed....merry christmas everyone!
[11:50] <lupine_85> nah, kopete "feels the winnest" :p
[11:51] <sonicGB> matthew_: I'm a cynical person, I feared the worst. I googled and found several options, and chose to repeat the one most unlikely to confu^H^H^H^H^Hoffend the users.. this is an ubuntu channel after all! :-)
[11:51] <sonicGB> seeya matthew_, merry yesterday! :-)
[11:51] <matthew_> sonicGB, confu^H^H^H^H^offend    ?
[11:52] <lupine_85> ^H==backspace
[11:52] <sonicGB> what lupine_85 said
[11:53] <ctothej> how do i install linux header files?
[11:53] <ctothej> module-assistant tells me it cant find them
[11:54] <ctothej> kernel header files that is
[11:55] <sonicGB> ctothej: just so you know, you're not being ignored, if someone knows the answer, they'll cut in
[11:56] <RealisticDragon> looking it up now ;)
[11:56] <sonicGB> onya RealisticDragon :-)
[11:56] <RealisticDragon> doing helpdesk on my birthday too :P
[11:57] <sonicGB> that's the thing with those of us who hang on help channels... we actually don't know anything except how to work google :-) :-) :-)
[11:57] <sonicGB> happy birthday RealisticDragon :-)
[11:57] <RealisticDragon> cheers
[11:57] <RealisticDragon> and i have done it before, i just cant remember the package name :)
[11:57] <sonicGB> you and me both!
[11:57] <sonicGB> you an Aussie RealisticDragon ?
[11:57] <Lynoure> ctothej: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[11:57] <ctothej> sonicGB: ok thanks
[11:58] <RealisticDragon> no sonicGB
[11:58] <RealisticDragon> cheers Lynoure :)
[11:58] <Lynoure> ctothej: (disclaimer, I'm still somewhat ill, so no promises, just best effort)
[11:58] <sonicGB> thanky Lynoure
[11:59] <sonicGB> hi henny
[11:59] <RealisticDragon> lol this laptop actually has the headers installed :P
[12:00] <sonicGB> RealisticDragon: could be worse... you could get "Darwin Kernel Version 8.8.3" when you type "uname -a" :-) :-(
[12:00] <Lynoure> I'm all confused now... RealisticDragon and ctothej are one person?
[12:01] <RealisticDragon> peu@elrsr-99:~$ uname -a
[12:01] <RealisticDragon> Linux elrsr-99 2.6.17-10-powerpc #2 Tue Dec 5 22:00:09 UTC 2006 ppc GNU/Linux
[12:01] <RealisticDragon> no Lynoure, im just me as far as I know
[12:01] <sonicGB> Lynoure: no, ctothej  is the original question-asker, and RealisticDragon and I are just two random folks trying to help, albeit ineffectively :-)
[12:02] <Lynoure> sonicGB: Ok, thanks for the clarification
[12:02] <RealisticDragon> so, i could be running darwin sonicGB :)
[12:02] <sonicGB> ctothej: did Lynoure's advice sort you out? do let us know if you still need help, ok!
[12:03] <sonicGB> RealisticDragon: you could be! :-) !!! I'm running os x as-shipped on a c2d black macbook, 'cos I spent the money, I feel that I need to exercise it... (I have a dell x300 beside me with kubuntu 6.10 installed in case I need to actually fire up kubuntu to help someone! :-) )
[12:04] <ctothej> Lynoure, sonic: thanks im trying it out now
[12:04] <RealisticDragon> sonicGB: my powerbook runs linux and (verrry occasionally) 10.3.9 in mac on linux... everything works, even suspend on lid close :)
[12:05] <RealisticDragon> im waiting until after mac world to buy a mac book pro to install linux on to add to my list :) (http://revis.co.uk/site/?q=node/24)
[12:05] <sonicGB> RealisticDragon: suspend on lid close from *nix? awesome! :-)
[12:05] <RealisticDragon> takes the same 0.5 secs too :)
[12:05] <RealisticDragon> sound works, 3d works, everything works :) even wifi with wpa
[12:05] <sonicGB> strewth! well done!
[12:06] <RealisticDragon> well done? i just stuck in the disk :P actually, there are a few howtos there for the complicated stuff (hopefully will be less so in 7.04 or on intel)
[12:06] <sonicGB> I said I was gonna hold off buying a mac until they went intel, then I said I was gonna hold off for dual core.. then I said I was gonna hold off until core 2.... then I couldn't really hold off any more!
[12:06] <RealisticDragon> i was checking prices and i can get a mac book pro + a round trip ticket to the US for the same price as a UK mac book pro heh
[12:07] <sonicGB> to be honest, I regret the purchase... OS X sucks big time.... but the hardware has potential
[12:07] <sonicGB> so it's not wasted
[12:07] <lupine_85> RealisticDragon: but think of the environment!!!
[12:07] <Lynoure> RealisticDragon: Only worth it if your time is not worth anything
[12:07] <lupine_85> nah, USA--
[12:07] <RealisticDragon> i have to go the us every 2 months anyway lupine_85
[12:07] <Alzi2> Hey. I don't know where to ask this, so i'll ask this in all channels: I don't like GNOME anymore, it's too slow and too "simple", and it feels too weird to control. I want to install KDE but i don't want to lose any data I have on my pc, but i want the menu's to be clean from GNOME entries. Maybe GNOME removed or something. So, my question is, how to install KDE while preserving data and keeping the menu tidy, and removing GNOME?
[12:08] <sonicGB> a week after I purchsed the macbook, the rumours about the thin macbook surfaced :-(
[12:08] <RealisticDragon> sonicGB: i detest os x, because the X11 server is horrific, but the hardware is wonderful
[12:08] <RealisticDragon> Alzi2: install kubuntu-desktop
[12:08] <RealisticDragon> then log out and back in again
[12:08] <RealisticDragon> thin macbook?
[12:08] <JohnFlux> Alzi2: it should just work
[12:08] <Alzi2> RealisticDragon, And the menu, then?
[12:08] <JohnFlux> Alzi2: gnome apps with an obvious kde alternative won't show
[12:09] <Alzi2> Alright
[12:09] <sonicGB> RealisticDragon: it's from the usual rumour mongers, but there's apparently a thing macbook[/pro]  coming
[12:09] <RealisticDragon> Alzi2: you will still have gnome apps on the menu unless you uninstall them but it wont do any harm (you can remove applications from adept once you have kde installed)
[12:09] <Alzi2> ok
[12:09] <RealisticDragon> sonicGB: phew, glad to be waiting until after macworld :)
[12:09] <RealisticDragon> Alzi2: you can run gnome apps inside kde just fine though :)
[12:09] <Alzi2> If I use aptitude, i can remove kubuntu-desktop, right?
[12:10] <RealisticDragon> ubuntu-desktop == gnome meta package
[12:10] <sonicGB> RealisticDragon: you realise of course that if you end up with a macbook thinner than mine that I'm going to have to hate you as a matter of principle?! :-)
[12:10] <RealisticDragon> lol sorry sonicGB
[12:10] <sonicGB> you're not sorry at all! :-) :-) :-)
[12:10] <Alzi2> RealisticDragon, Hmm, i did aptitude install kubuntu-desktop, and it gave a solution and gave it a score -115. what to do?
[12:11] <sonicGB> RealisticDragon: care to explain "gnome meta package" in layman's terms?
[12:11] <Alzi2> just say yes?
[12:11] <RealisticDragon> Alzi2: you can add and remove (k)ubuntu-desktop but it's a meta package - installing it installs a whole bunch of things that wont go away by removing the meta package (a meta package is basically a big list of things that need to be installed, with no actual program of it's own)
[12:11] <RealisticDragon> Alzi2: im afraid i dont know about scores, but yes installing it should get you kde just fine
[12:11] <RealisticDragon> sonicGB: that definition and use?
[12:12] <RealisticDragon> !kubuntu-desktop
[12:12] <ubotu> k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[12:12] <Alzi2> So should I use aptitude or apt-get? aptitude gives a solution and.. i don't trust it, really
[12:12] <RealisticDragon> apt get will work :)
[12:12] <lupine_85> Alzi2: the "solution" is a set of adds & removes
[12:12] <RealisticDragon> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:12] <lupine_85>  CHECK what it's removing
[12:12] <Alzi2> lupine_85, it wants to replace openoffice and stuff..
[12:13] <lupine_85> Alzi2: replace? Or remove?
[12:13] <RealisticDragon> sonicGB: so what else have you heard about this new hardware? got any links? want new toys :)
[12:13] <Alzi2> lupine_85, actually, it won't replace anything at all.. just install new things
[12:13] <Alzi2> but it has score -115... is it safe?
[12:14] <lupine_85> probably
[12:14] <Alzi2> ok
[12:14] <lupine_85> as long as it's not removing anything, you're fine
[12:14] <lupine_85> then later you can aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop and have an easier life :)
[12:14] <Alzi2> well, i really don't like GNOME anymore
[12:14] <sonicGB> RealisticDragon: I only repeat what I hear from the most unreliable of sources.... digg.com! :-)
[12:15] <Alzi2> it has become SO INCREDIBLY SLOW, and keeps becoming that no matter what I do
[12:15] <RealisticDragon> sonicGB: slashdot :/
[12:15] <froud> Has anyone got a solution to sync mobile phone device (P900) with Kontact (calendar and contact) via kbluetooth? I can pair my computer and phone device but find no way to do sync.
[12:17] <ForgeAus> theres a package you can get to do synchs, not sure if it will do what oyu need tho
[12:17] <ForgeAus> saw it somewhere in adept, but I had lotsa additional repositories added
[12:18] <ForgeAus> I mostly overlooked it because its not something I tend to need/do
[12:18] <tsdgeos> froud: try kmobiletools
[12:21] <crusty> hallo everybody.........my scaner CANON N670U.....DO NOT WORK 100%....any help?
[12:21] <entraks> 
[12:26] <crusty> kubuntu can see the scanner.......but when it come down to scan.......funny things come out...any help?
[12:28] <crusty> hallo everybody.........my scaner CANON N670U.....DO NOT WORK 100%....any help?
[12:29] <tsdgeos> crusty: we read it and if nobody answers is because nobodyu can help
[12:29] <tsdgeos> try sane webpage and google
[12:30] <crusty> iv done that
[12:30] <crusty> no change
[12:30] <crusty> never minde
[12:30] <crusty> thanks
[12:30] <MidMark> crusty: keep in mind that to scan it took a lot of time before starting to get warm
[12:31] <MidMark> about 1-2 minutes
[12:31] <Alzi2> Okay, so i tried installing kubuntu-desktop with aptitude, and it's nowhere to be found. Many things are missing, so now I am installing it with apt-get..
[12:31] <Alzi2> I  hope i didn't screw up my system
[12:31] <crusty> i exclude this possibility
[12:32] <crusty> is on since 15 minuts
[12:32] <crusty> iv gotx sane and kodak scann...........same problem
[12:33] <crusty> probablly a broken scanner
[12:33] <crusty> no problem guys
[12:33] <crusty> thanks
[12:33] <crusty> merry christmas
[12:33] <rich_> What's a good printer that Kubunto or  any linux likes to install easily?
[12:35] <MidMark> all HP
[12:35] <rich_> thanks
[12:35] <MidMark> HP gives very good support to linux
[12:35] <Alzi2> anyone?
[12:35] <tsdgeos> yeah i have a HP all in one and all works fine
[12:35] <ForgeAus> good to know   :) I got an HP multifunction thats wireless :)
[12:43] <trk> hi
[12:46] <froud> tsdgeos: did you get kmobiletools working?
[12:47] <tsdgeos> froud: not, but i can not detect my phone from the computer so i'm a step behind :D
[12:47] <petros>  hi, how can i deactivate the shutdown by pressing the power button on the pc?
[12:48] <froud> tsdgeos: I can see phone via kbluetooth, but even though I did steps http://www.kmobiletools.org/en/node/view/7 I still cant initiatize the phone with Kmobiletools
[12:49] <tsdgeos> froud: write marco, he'll be probably happy to try to help you
[12:55] <froud> tsdgeos: got it
[12:56] <froud> tsdgeos: you need to rfcomm bind 0 00:0A:D9:EA:E3:27 not rfcomm bind 0 1
[12:56] <tsdgeos> ?
[12:56] <tsdgeos> ah :D
[12:56] <tsdgeos> good
[12:57] <tsdgeos> that's a error on the webpage?
[12:57] <froud> the directions on the page http://www.kmobiletools.org/en/node/view/7 are good, with the exception of the rfcomm bind command
[12:58] <froud> tsdgeos: but there is a hint in the sub message link "remember permissions"
[12:58] <tsdgeos> froud: could you please write marco and tell him?
[01:00] <froud> tsdgeos: will
[01:11] <crusty> can i run canon scan N670U with wine??????
[01:16] <cathal> crusty: only one way 2 find out
[01:17] <lupine_85> anyone else having trouble with amaroK in random album mode?
[01:17] <lupine_85> It keeps getting stuck on one albm - disconcerting when it's SOAD while you're trying to sleep :p
[01:18] <RealisticDragon> sonicGB: read about the new mac book thin version... believed to have nvidia graphics as an option... 12" screen size only :o think ill wait for that :P better drivers
[01:18] <sonicGB> 12in screen size? wow!
[01:18] <RealisticDragon> its the ultra portable one
[01:18] <sonicGB> this one has, I think, 13in? but it's a bit small already
[01:19] <sonicGB> I thought I wanted small, but on osx, 13in wide is a bit small
[01:19] <RealisticDragon> mine is a 15" widescreen
[01:19] <RealisticDragon> its a 12" 1200*800 res screen apparently :o
[01:19] <cathal> lupine_85: how to u set random album mode?
[01:19] <RealisticDragon> can plug it into my 23" TFT when im at home ;) and it would be very tiny for travelling
[01:19] <lupine_85> cathal: Mode->Random->Albums
[01:20] <lupine_85> RealisticDragon: show-off. /me has 17" at home :(
[01:20] <sonicGB> this is 13in macbook !pro and 12something by 8something
[01:21] <RealisticDragon> my 15" powerbook is only 1280*960 so i wouldnt lose much work space on the 12", and its worth it for travel (lower power, lower weight)
[01:21] <cathal> lupine_85: have u any of the favor options on?
[01:21] <RealisticDragon> the new 15" are much higher res though
[01:21] <sonicGB> 1280x800 apparently
[01:21] <MidMark> how can I mount synced removable devices?
[01:21] <lupine_85> cathal: no
[01:21] <MidMark> have to change udev rules?
[01:22] <RealisticDragon> the new 15" pbs are 1440*900 i think
[01:22] <crusty> cathal....iv got the exe fine for the scanner...........but i do not remember the comand line tu run in with wine in konsole!
[01:22] <lupine_85> wine <file>.exe
[01:22] <cathal> lupine_85: what about the repeat options?
[01:22] <lupine_85> mm, repeat playlist
[01:24] <lupine_85> RealisticDragon: that would be fun
[01:24] <RealisticDragon> might mean more developers and then better support :o
[01:24] <lupine_85> only reason MS hasn't done it is because they want people to upgrade to Vistas
[01:28] <MidMark> have to change udev rules?
[01:28] <MidMark> to mount synced removable devices?
[01:49] <Hyper_Mam> anyone is having problems with Kopete to connect to MSN?
[01:51] <Fri13> Hyper_Mam: Nope... working fine here...
[01:52] <Hyper_Mam> Fri13: strange, I only get a pwd-error message upon starting kopete...
[01:56] <Fri13> Hyper_Mam: then "check" your password, do you have autoconnect in use?
[01:56] <Hyper_Mam> Fri13: yes... autoconnect is in use and pwd is fine
[01:58] <Hyper_Mam> Fri13: strange, I couldn't close Kopete but had to kill it
[01:59] <Hyper_Mam> Fri13: now it works again
[01:59] <Hyper_Mam> brb
[02:13] <[abhishek] > i am not able to login on jabber with gmail id using kopete
[02:15] <Danker> hi
[02:15] <Danker> How should i force umount on busy device?
[02:15] <lupine_85> Danker: generally, you don't
[02:15] <Danker> No way to force?
[02:15] <[abhishek] > i am not able to login on jabber with gmail id using kopete please help
[02:15] <sjogren> Someone here that can help me with my graphicsdrivers and monitor settings?
[02:16] <[abhishek] > i am not able to login on jabber with gmail id using kopete
[02:16] <lupine_85> well, -f and/or -l do the trick, but it's not generally advisable
[02:17] <Danker> Thanks
[02:17] <Danker> -l did it
[02:17] <sjogren> =(
[02:18] <[abhishek] > i am not able to log in on jabber with my gmail id using kopete please help
[02:21] <[abhishek] > d
[02:23] <[abhishek] > i am not able to login on jabber with gmail id using kopete
[02:26] <[abhishek] > 
[02:26] <[abhishek] > d
[02:26] <dominik> hello world
[02:27] <[abhishek] > dominik: i am not able to login on jabber with gmail id using kopete
[02:28] <dominik> abhishek: what is the error you are getting
[02:48] <ubuntu> bonjour
[02:50] <ibert> hi! how can I activate "STRG-TAB" for switching between Desktops?
[02:54] <malik__> seesm like that there is no way to convert ntfs into ext3 without formatting
[03:03] <obi_1> hi
[03:06] <obi_1> I'm new to ubuntu nd linux and I want get gcc installed (like here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=120421) the problem is that after this command: "sudo apt-get install build-essential" it said that "build-essential" package can't be found...
[03:06] <malik__> seesm like that there is no way to convert ntfs into ext3 without formatting...........any ideas?
[03:08] <lupine_85> malik__: copy stuff to backup, format, copy it back
[03:08] <lupine_85> you simply can't transparently convert ntfs to ext3
[03:08] <Fri13> malik__: there are only few filesystems what you can convert to other without data is lost. And you cant convert NTFS only to FAT32 and then it's even big change you loose all... Just copy files somewhere else (backups?) and format....
[03:08] <lupine_85> FAT16->FAT32 works :D
[03:09] <lupine_85> erm, that's about it
[03:09] <Fri13> lupine_85: and fat32 > NTFS works 80% change :-D or ext2 > ext3 very fine :-P
[03:11] <Rashid> sup
[03:12] <rizwaan> Environment variable QTDIR is not set
[03:12] <rizwaan> what should i do..
[03:13] <rizwaan> export $QTDIR=/usr ???
[03:21] <sam_> hey all, just after a little help with editing sources.list
[03:22] <sam_> I can edit it fine in nano, just when it comes to saving the file, I get a "permission is denied" message
[03:24] <abstruck> sudo nano
[03:24] <abstruck> you can't edit sources.list from user. you need to be root
[03:26] <sam_> am running sudo, is that all I need to do?
[03:27] <sam_> whoops, figured it. Sorry, first time linux user
[03:38] <dominik> hello world
[03:39] <andreasw> Hi anybody knows how I can display debug or verbose information while a play Music with Amarok
[03:39] <andreasw> I ask because playback is suddenly stopped after some time and I don't know why
[03:40] <stamen> hi
[03:40] <andreasw> hi
[03:40] <stamen> how to save the settings in hdparm
[03:40] <andreasw> look at the file /etc/hdparm.conf
[03:40] <dominik> I was wondering if someone could tell me how to enable AuthConfig on apache configuration file so that my .htaccess will start working
[03:42] <dominik> I have created the .htaccess and the .htpassword in the directory, but I can still access the folder without the popup window
[03:48] <adaptr> dominik: authconfig has nothing directly to do with htaccess working - you have to set your allowoverride options for that
[03:49] <adaptr> the correct sequence is: IF you have a working htaccess setup, THEN you can use that to configure directory authentication
[03:49] <stamen> andreasw: 10x
[03:50] <jordo23> Does KDE have a calculator app?
[03:51] <adaptr> kalc ?
[03:51] <adaptr> or possibly kcalc, but who cares
[03:53] <Silverstar> can anybody tell me where to get up-to-date sources for apt? my ones seems to be outdated... old program versions e.g.
[03:54] <andreasw> what is outdated?
[03:54] <Silverstar> not up-to-date ^^
[03:54] <andreasw> you just have to run apt-get update from time to time
[03:54] <andreasw> yep I know the meaning but which program for example
[03:55] <Silverstar> andreasw: iam using adept for apt, and i it lists me old versions... even if i download the new list off the sources...
[03:56] <adaptr> Silverstar: then don't trust that - use apt-get update && apt-get  upgrade
[03:56] <Silverstar> for example... err... pioneers, i have 9.5.5, in sources is 9.5.5, but on the homepage of the game its 10.2.2
[03:56] <andreasw> ah ok
[03:56] <Silverstar> i'll try... mom
[03:56] <andreasw> well thats normal
[03:57] <stamen> where are placed linux headers
[03:57] <stamen> for Edgy
[03:58] <andreasw> Silverstar: You won't get the latest program versions for an existing distribution
[03:58] <stamen> I am instaling VMware
[03:58] <stamen> !vmware
[03:58] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). Instructions for VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[03:58] <Silverstar> andreasw: that means?
[03:58] <dominik> adaptr: I know this might sound silly, but I have followed numerous example on how to protect a folder with a .htaccess and .htpasswd files, but i can still acess the folder without asking for username/password :-(
[03:59] <Silverstar> andreasw: that i need to update to edgy?
[03:59] <andreasw> Silverstar: well I don't know which version is included in Edgy
[03:59] <andreasw> Silverstar: Another way is to compile the program and install it without a .deb package
[03:59] <andreasw> Silverstar: You are using dapper, aren't you?
[03:59] <Silverstar> yes, iam.
[04:00] <Silverstar> but iam thinkin about upgrading to edgy
[04:00] <adaptr> dominik: concept fog. htaccess can never *protect* a directory, only regulate access on top of the "real" access apache grants to it
[04:00] <adaptr> dominik: in general, htacces sis a security risk, not a feature
[04:00] <Silverstar> andreasw: yes iam, but iam thinking about upgrading to edgy
[04:01] <andreasw> ok in Edgy there is Version 0.10.2
[04:01] <andreasw> I just checked
[04:02] <Silverstar> ok, thanks.. do i need to uninstall dapper, than installing edgy or how can i upgrade?
[04:02] <andreasw> edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:02] <dominik> i know there's nothing like a secure or protected folder that can not be accessed, but I was just working along on some tutorial..
[04:02] <andreasw> replace all dapper with edgy
[04:02] <andreasw> then apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:03] <adaptr> dominik: so, what are you trying to achieve ? try to be specific
[04:03] <Silverstar> ok, thx
[04:04] <dominik> adaptr: I just want to be able to implement the .htaccess and .htpasswd on a folder so that it can ask a user to supply credentials before they are allowed to access the folde
[04:04] <adaptr> dominik: do you own the web server ?
[04:04] <dominik> yes
[04:04] <Silverstar> andreasw: thanks, i'll try
[04:05] <andreasw> Silverstar: You're Welcome
[04:05] <dominik> adaptr: yes, I own it
[04:05] <adaptr> dominik: then why bother with htaccess ?
[04:05] <adaptr> dominik: unless you now foresee many future to-be protected directories that don't fall into easy categories
[04:06] <Silverstar> i'll come back, be sure ;) iam a noob with body and soul^^
[04:07] <dominik> adaptr: I appreciate your help, but all am trying to do is follow some tutorial and create a folder that only 3 people can acess by using .htaccess and .htpasswd restriction..
[04:08] <dominik> adaptr: if I wanted to o something more 'secure', I would have gone with the database authentification..
[04:08] <adaptr> dominik: once again, htaccess and htpasswd are *not* THE way to set up restrictions - they are A way, and usually only used when you cannot change the main server config
[04:09] <adaptr> as in when you don't own the web server, but host a domain on one
[04:10] <adaptr> dominik: they could presumably serve as a nice framework when you expect to have to do this multiple times, but for a straight auth setup, NOT using htaccess is much simpler
[04:11] <dominik> adaptr: you are right, but maybe am not putting my requirements across properly...
[04:12] <adaptr> dominik: no matter, can you paste the url of the howto ?
[04:12] <dominik> am not trying to implement a production server, just a tutorial lecture that am following as part of a linux course
[04:12] <adaptr> I'll roll with it
[04:13] <dominik> adaptr: I will paste on the online material that am following, but my college material can not be accessed without you loging in
[04:14] <adaptr> dominik: no, just what you say you are following to configure htaccess, if that's openly accessible
[04:14] <adaptr> it should be, since there's nothing secret about apache
[04:14] <dominik> adaptr: http://www.elated.com/articles/password-protecting-your-pages-with-htaccess/
[04:15] <adaptr> dominik: okay, I only read 5 lines so far and I strongly urge you NEVER to do that!
[04:16] <dominik> adaptr: ok
[04:16] <adaptr> dominik: whenever some site suggests you use an online htpasswd generator, run screaming in the opposite direction
[04:16] <adaptr> dominik: apache itself comes with the *required* htpasswd executable, which creates the htpasswd file
[04:16] <dominik> adaptr: i thought so..
[04:16] <adaptr> filling in stuff on a web page merely guarantees that someone will own your password
[04:17] <adaptr> dominik: usage of htpasswd is bloody simple - man htpasswd if you must see it
[04:17] <adaptr> dominik: I have no doubt that next they suggest you put your htpasswd file *inside* the directory it's meant to protect - more idiocy
[04:18] <adaptr> dominik: secure practice strongly advises you to store all passwd related info outside of the documentroot
[04:18] <dominik> adaptr: as part of the linux course that am taking, we were asked to create a folder and protect it with .htaccess and  .htpassword that only 3 or 4 people can acess by adding them to the access file
[04:18] <adaptr> unless, again, you can't, if you don't control the webserver
[04:18] <adaptr> dominik: no other restrictions ?
[04:19] <adaptr> dominik: note that .htpasswd is *not* a convention, or even recommended - it's a concept
[04:20] <adaptr> the file could be called anything, and should not be easily identified if you must store it inside the folder
[04:20] <levander> Where's the application to change my theme under kubuntu?
[04:21] <dominik> adaptr: we were asked to use two restrictions,,,(1)  .htaccess and .htpasswd  (2) restrict to online a specific IP
[04:22] <Lynoure> levander: system settings, and a bit scattered about.
[04:22] <adaptr> dominik: still, I'd advise you to put the passwd file outside of apache's publicly-accessible web space
[04:22] <Lynoure> levander: mostly under panel, desktop and appearance
[04:22] <dominik> adaptr: these two restrictions should be configured on the httpd.conf file
[04:23] <levander> How do I install a theme I got from kde-look.org then?
[04:23] <adaptr> dominik: so you have the exact text they expect you to use ?
[04:23] <Lynoure> levander: unless you mean just an icon theme, which is under appearance->icons
[04:23] <dominik> adaptr: sorry, I don't understand the last question
[04:24] <levander> I want to install this theme: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=39886
[04:25] <adaptr> dominik: I scanned over the rest of that tutorial, and it seems very Windoze oriented :)
[04:25] <Lynoure> levander: I'm going now (a post-xmas party) but kde-look has quite good howtos, I think, and many of those have readmes
[04:25] <adaptr> dominik: okay, what doesn't work
[04:25] <dominik> adaptr: we have virtual server setup for us with root access..
[04:25] <levander> Oh wow, I just read the readme for that theme, there are like four different things you have to do to install a theme in KDE
[04:25] <adaptr> dominik: you may want to head over to #apache for problems like this
[04:25] <adaptr> dominik: "root access" being - what ?
[04:26] <nath> salut
[04:26] <dominik> adaptr: I have access to the server as the root
[04:26] <dominik> which means that I can configure the server the way I want
[04:26] <adaptr> dominik: okay, so that has nothing to do with having a virtual *host* setup - I get it
[04:27] <levander> KDE may have more applications available than Gnome, but Gnome looks better polished then KDE under Ubuntu.  IMO
[04:27] <adaptr> dominik: and everybody and his dog can still access the site ?
[04:27] <levander> Is that a pretty standard opinion?
[04:27] <adaptr> levander: it's obvioulsy your opinion
[04:27] <levander> KDE does feel a little faster than GNOME under Ubuntu though.
[04:27] <adaptr> levander: try XGL, and the difference will go away :)
[04:28] <lupine_85> for me, KDE is faster than XFCE
[04:28] <lupine_85> but yeah, YMMV
[04:28] <levander> adaptr: Have you seen how simple the menus in the task bar are for GNOME?  This Kubuntu has all kinds of things in the menu on the task bar that I'll never use.
[04:28] <dominik> adaptr: no, its like having your own server and asked to setup a folder on your server so that only 3 people can acess the folder with different rstictions
[04:28] <levander> adaptr: What's XGI?
[04:29] <adaptr> levander: no idea, but for info on XGL, google for "beryl" or "compiz" - 3-dimensional desktop goodness
[04:30] <levander> adaptr: I thought that stuff was for Gnome?
[04:30] <adaptr> dominik: are you trying to explain apache vhosting to me ? :)
[04:30] <adaptr> levander: it's not "for" anything - it is a window manager and X server extension
[04:30] <levander> adaptr: Ah, this I did not know.
[04:31] <levander> adaptr: I'm waiting for feisty to try that stuff.  When it's better integrated into ubuntu.
[04:31] <adaptr> levander: if you haven't seen it in action yet I suggest you get cracking - it really is very cool
[04:31] <adaptr> levander: pfah - integration schmintegration; it took me all of an hour to set it up
[04:31] <levander> adaptr: I've seen demos, and definitely want it.  Just don't want to mess with it right now, plenty of other stuff to do.
[04:32] <adaptr> okay, sure
[04:32] <dominik> adaptr: am just trying to explain what am trying to achieve
[04:32] <adaptr> dominik: I got it, no worries - pastebin the config you put in httpd.conf ?
[04:33] <adaptr> you'll have to actually enable htaccess parsing first
[04:33] <levander> Does Kontact synchronize with any portable devices?  Like with a Palm, or even support SyncML?
[04:34] <nixternal> levander: yes
[04:34] <dominik> adaptr: i appreciate your help so far, but how do I pastebin??
[04:34] <levander> nixternal: yes what? It supports SyncML?
[04:34] <nixternal> it will work with KPilot
[04:35] <nixternal> don't know about SyncML
[04:35] <adaptr> dominik: try pastebin.ca, or any one of a dozen others
[04:35] <adaptr> it's a web interface for pasting text
[04:35] <dominik> ok
[04:36] <adaptr> dominik: for a quick spot check - what is the allowoverride line in your virtual host definition set to?
[04:39] <tony__> hello .. i want to install a proper driver for my Nvidia Graphic card that i have .. im newbie , so can anyone tell me how to about doing this ?
[04:40] <andreasw> apt-get install nvidia-glx
[04:40] <andreasw> then edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf replace nv with nvidia
[04:40] <tony__> do i have to uninstall NV driver that was used as default on my kubuntu ?
[04:40] <andreasw> no you don't
[04:40] <tony__> how do you edit xorg.conf ?
[04:42] <andreasw> I use vim but you can use any editor you want
[04:42] <tony__> thanks . give me few seconds . i be right back
[04:43] <Ace2016> how do i extract a tar.gz file via the command line?
[04:44] <lupine_85> Ace2016: in ubuntu, tar -xf <file>
[04:44] <adaptr> tar xzf <filename>
[04:44] <lupine_85> it automagically detects that it's gz, or bz2, or whatever
[04:44] <andreasw> man tar
[04:44] <andreasw> ^^
[04:44] <lupine_85> !rtfm
[04:44] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[04:44] <lupine_85> :p
[04:44] <adaptr> lupine_85: rtfn
[04:45] <lupine_85> omgomgomImtellingonyou
[04:45] <adaptr> 15 max
[04:45] <tony__> what command do i need to use to open xorg.conf ???
[04:45] <dominik> adaptr: http://pastebin.co.uk/7814
[04:45] <adaptr> tony__: from a GUI, "gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[04:46] <lupine_85> tony__: you can open it with any editor you like. If you want to save it, then you need to prefix sudo or kdesu to the command though
[04:46] <dominik> adaptr: that is where I've pasted the conf file
[04:46] <adaptr> dominik: thanks, I'll take a look
[04:46] <lupine_85> in kde: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:46] <tony__> thanks, i keep forgetting this commands
[04:47] <dominik> adaptr: splendid
[04:47] <tony__> i get this error , bash : gksudo command not fount
[04:47] <tony__> found
[04:47] <lupine_85> [15:46]  <lupine_85> in kde: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf :)
[04:47] <tony__> i think shold be kdesu ???
[04:48] <adaptr> dominik: Include /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/[^.#] * --> that is where your vhost config lives
[04:48] <adaptr> apache.conf tells us nothing
[04:49] <adaptr> tony__: yes, sorry
[04:49] <tony__> thanks.
[04:49] <tony__> i installed the nvidia and mofied the xorg. do i need to reboot ??
[04:49] <adaptr> tony__: also, use kate when gedit is not found
[04:49] <adaptr> tony__: no, restart X
[04:49] <adaptr> tony__: CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE
[04:49] <tony__> thanks
[04:49] <adaptr> tony__: this *will* log you out, though
[04:50] <tony__> is ok
[04:50] <adaptr> forcibly, so if you have anything open, you may just want to .... log out normally :)
[04:50] <tony__> thanks. im back .
[04:50] <tony__> how can i tell if changes has took effect ???
[04:51] <tony__> i can not see difference :)
[04:51] <andreasw> Did you see the nvidia logo?
[04:51] <tony__> no
[04:51] <tony__> i might if i reboot the system
[04:51] <andreasw> and you changed nv to nvidia?
[04:51] <andreasw> no wait
[04:51] <tony__> yes
[04:51] <andreasw> press ctrl + alt + f1 log in
[04:51] <andreasw> then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[04:51] <tony__> ok
[04:54] <tony__> thanks .. i sow the logo : )
[04:55] <tony__> i greatly appreciate your help :)
[04:55] <andreasw> you are welcome
[04:56] <tony__> is nvidia-glx is a driver made by nvidia or is driver that made by linux community ?
[04:56] <andreasw> it's made by nvidia
[04:56] <tony__> cool :)
[04:56] <andreasw> nv is made by the linux community
[04:56] <tony__> :)
[04:57] <tony__> someone told me if  i needed to install beryl .. i need to update my graphic cards driver ..
[04:57] <dominik> adaptr: yes, I have enabled-sites folder in the /etc/apache2 folder
[04:57] <tony__> so i guess now i can install beryl ?
[04:57] <adaptr> dominik: okay, so what is in the vhost config ?
[04:57] <adaptr> tony__: you need xgl as well
[04:58] <tony__> that never ends :(
[04:58] <adaptr> tony__: unless you have X 7.1 installed, which has AIGL included
[04:58] <tony__> whats that x 7.1
[04:58] <tony__> i have new kubuntu
[04:58] <tony__> 6.10 edgy i belive
[04:59] <adaptr> tony__: not really..  to use beryl oir compiz you need an X server, an opengl X server , and opengl working
[04:59] <andreasw> So a great wate of time
[04:59] <andreasw> :)
[04:59] <adaptr> you have an x server, xgl is an opengl x server, and nvidia-glx is opengl for your video card
[04:59] <tony__> i know i have xserver :) .. the rest is just not someting i know about
[05:00] <tony__> so now i have nvidia - glx too
[05:00] <tony__> i guess i ahve to install xgl
[05:00] <adaptr> tony__: is it active ? run "glxinfo |grep direct"
[05:00] <tony__> hold on
[05:00] <brandon_> I have a 7600gs and am running nvidia-glx-legacy
[05:00] <adaptr> tony__: yes, there are a few repositories that have it, "beerorkid" is the one I use
[05:01] <adaptr> brandon_: that's.. funny, at least
[05:01] <tony__> it says direct rendering : yes
[05:01] <brandon_> adaptr: why the website said to use that driver
[05:02] <tony__> so i guess ihave xgl installed and running ???
[05:02] <adaptr> brandon_: okay.... which website ?
[05:02] <brandon_> anyways I get confused how to switch drivers anyways, because I think regaurldess if they're installed or not they have to be set to that driver in the video card driver settings
[05:02] <brandon_> !nvidia
[05:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:02] <adaptr> tony__: no, you have GLX running on nvidia :) the next step is to get xgl running
[05:02] <tony__> can i install that from repo ???
[05:03] <adaptr> tony__: you need to add a specific repo for it, as it's not in ubuntu's main repo's
[05:03] <tony__> i see
[05:03] <adaptr> tony__: google for "ubuntu xgl repository"
[05:03] <brandon_> okay yeah i read it wrong
[05:03] <tony__> i think i will do that . :)
[05:03] <tony__> thaks
[05:04] <brandon_> if i have nvidia-glx installed, which driver do i want to be using?
[05:04] <tony__> whats better, xgl or AIGLX ??
[05:04] <adaptr> tony__: I have this one: "deb http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz dapper main", but re-google or adjust if you have Edgy
[05:05] <adaptr> tony__: up for grabs - XGL works with the standard Xorg 7.0 - which you have now, but AIGLX is built into 7.1
[05:05] <tony__> I got to beryl wikki.. with tutorials on how to install for new edgy .
[05:05] <lupine_85> adaptr: that's pretty old.
[05:05] <lupine_85> oh, wait. for dapper...
[05:05] <adaptr> so to get AIGLX workign you need to upgrade your X server
[05:05] <tony__> ohhh no , i will temper with core of linux ..
[05:05] <adaptr> lupine_85: okay, give me a new one - I assumed they would upgrade the sources as new ones became available
[05:05] <tony__> i will not
[05:05] <tony__> :)
[05:05] <lupine_85> dapper isn't in the official beryl repo, I'm afraid
[05:06] <lupine_85> well, not past 0.1.1
[05:06] <brandon_> brb
[05:06] <rockprincess> hello everyone!
[05:06] <dominik> adaptr: here is the host file http://pastebin.co.uk/7815
[05:06] <adaptr> there's an official beryl repo for ubuntu ?
[05:06] <adaptr> dominik: looking
[05:06] <lupine_85> although xorg-air and xserver-xgl are in
[05:06] <tony__> can i post a link here ?
[05:06] <rockprincess> is there anyone who can help me with my bluetooth headset? i think i'm that close |           | so completing my configuration....
[05:06] <tony__> this is what i found to install beryl on ubuntu
[05:06] <lupine_85> adaptr: (deb) http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/ (edgy|feisty) main
[05:07] <tony__> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/AiGLX
[05:07] <tony__> thats what i found
[05:07] <adaptr> lupine_85: cool, does that also include xgl ?
[05:07] <lupine_85> it's got xserver-xgl in, yes
[05:07] <lupine_85> (for dapper and edgy, not feisty right now)
[05:07] <adaptr> dominik: two things about that file: 1: there is no servername, so there cannot be any other vhosts - ever
[05:07] <lupine_85> in fact, there's almost nothing in for feisty. Yet.
[05:08] <lupine_85> soon my pretty...
[05:08] <adaptr> dominik: and 2. AllowOverRide is set to None, so htaccess files are ignored
[05:08] <adaptr> lupine_85: but not beryl for dapper, then ? :(
[05:08] <tony__> i realy love to show what linux is capable in term of desktop to window users..
[05:08] <tony__> lol
[05:08] <lupine_85> beryl 0.1.1 for i386 only
[05:09] <lupine_85> trevinho has beryl svn repos for dapper, though
[05:09] <lupine_85> but getting hold of xorg-air and xserver-xgl dapper amd64 is proving difficult
[05:09] <adaptr> lupine_85: that's what I'm running now anyway
[05:09] <adaptr> lupine_85: dapper with beryl 0.1.1
[05:10] <lupine_85> adaptr: yeah. the latest is (almost) 0.1.4
[05:10] <adaptr> lupine_85: any repos for that on dapper ?
[05:10] <rockprincess> i always get this error message when i want to connect to my bluetooth headset, "Can't connect RFCOMM channel: Permission denied" any ideas?
[05:10] <lupine_85> adaptr: just trevinho's svn on
[05:10] <lupine_85> one*
[05:10] <adaptr> lupine_85: source only then , I presume ?
[05:11] <brandon_> how do I connect an mp3 player?
[05:11] <brandon_> do I have to mount it?
[05:11] <adaptr> brandon_: to your ears ?
[05:11] <lupine_85> adaptr: no, it's compiled beryl packags from the svn source. i386 only.
[05:11] <brandon_> lol, no, to the pc
[05:12] <dominik> adaptr: so, which line(s) on which file should I change??
[05:12] <brandon_> how do I get it to recognize in amaroK
[05:12] <adaptr> brandon_: depends - some USB connected devicves will be automounted, some will prove.. difficult
[05:12] <adaptr> lupine_85: got an URL  for that ?
[05:12] <brandon_> this one is supported
[05:12] <brandon_> just turn it on?
[05:12] <brandon_> creative zen:M
[05:12] <adaptr> brandon_: you mean you haven;t tried that yet ?
[05:12] <brandon_> lol, no
[05:12] <brandon_> it's not charged enough yet
[05:12] <adaptr> it doesn't charge thourgh USB ? get rid of it :)
[05:12] <adaptr> even my friggin phone charges through USB
[05:12] <brandon_> no it does
[05:13] <brandon_> I just wanted to let it charge a bit
[05:13] <adaptr> okay, so what's the point ?
[05:13] <lupine_85> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=279456
[05:13] <brandon_> the point is there is no gui on the device
[05:13] <adaptr> dominik: if you want to get it working on that vhost, change the second allowoverride to AuthConfig, then restart apache
[05:13] <brandon_> lol and it's on
[05:14] <dominik> adaptr: ok, let me try it..
[05:15] <brandon_> adaptr: the device is said to be a camera with dcop kded mediamanager fullList
[05:15] <brandon_> and something about false
[05:17] <brandon_> does it need to be mounted?
[05:20] <Ace2016> How do i run as a different user from the command line?
[05:21] <lupine_85> Ace2016: su <username>
[05:22] <Ace2016> lupine_85: but i want just an app to be run, a gui app, i want to run kcontrol as the new user i created
[05:22] <lupine_85> Ace2016: then su <user> -c "<command>"
[05:22] <lupine_85> or login as that user...
[05:25] <abhi> hi everyone
[05:25] <abhi> somebody has upgraded to fiesty here?
[05:26] <Ace2016> who?
[05:26] <abhi> i m asking!
[05:26] <Ace2016> oh wait nevermind
[05:27] <Ace2016> abhi: any specific reason why you ned a fiesty user?
[05:27] <Ace2016> now that just doesn't sound right
[05:27] <abhi> no i am just asking no specific reason
[05:28] <abhi> i thought somebody will share there experience with the fiesty
[05:28] <dominik> adaptr: sorry, could you tell me the line number you want me to change ?
[05:30] <adaptr> dominik: 12
[05:30] <Ace2016> Anyone know how i can remove the password from a user?
[05:30] <adaptr> Ace2016: what do you mean, "remove" ?
[05:31] <adaptr> Ace2016: you can disable the account, or reset the password - but you can't "remove" it
[05:31] <gzevspero> Hi, I'd like to copy a home PAL DVD to NTSC using kubuntu. What would be the easiest way to do this?
[05:31] <Ace2016> so you don't need the password to use "su ace2 -c some_command_here"
[05:31] <adaptr> gzevspero: transcode
[05:31] <adaptr> Ace2016: you always need a password for su or sudo
[05:32] <adaptr> Ace2016: ah - I see; you can use "sudoers" to specify which commands may be executed passwordless
[05:32] <gzevspero> adaptr: which program can I use? to rip and transcode
[05:33] <lupine_85> gzevspero: mencoder for the transcoding
[05:33] <lupine_85> ?dd? for the ripping?
[05:33] <Ace2016> adaptr: how?
[05:33] <adaptr> Ace2016: but it is not recommended to allow somebody to use all sudo commands without a password, since this means he is effectively root *all theh time*
[05:33] <gzevspero> lupine: do I need to rip the original dvd?
[05:33] <Ace2016> i can use all sudo commands as root so how do i do get access to this other user too?
[05:33] <adaptr> Ace2016: ever consider to search or think before reflexively asking "how" again?
[05:33] <adaptr> Ace2016: I don't understand what you mean
[05:34] <Ace2016> oh wiat i get it
[05:35] <Ace2016> nope doesn't work sudo su ace2 -c kcontrol gives an error
[05:38] <adaptr> sjeez - is everybody out to lunch ? :)
[05:39] <cloakable> Possibly :P
[05:39] <adaptr> or does this pub close at 5:30
[05:40] <adaptr> o-kay.. restarting into beryl 0.1.4; fingers crossed
[05:45] <adaptr> my GOD the burn effect is SO cool
[05:45] <adaptr> thanks lupine_85
[05:45] <dominik> adaptr: i tried making the change you recommended, but I got an error
[05:45] <adaptr> I'm less happy about the settings manager putting everything in one tab, though
[05:46] <adaptr> dominik: _what was the error_
[05:46] <dominik> adaptr: I will paste the error on paste bin
[05:46] <adaptr> sure
[05:48] <dominik> adaptr: http://pastebin.co.uk/7818
[05:48] <magicbronson_> anyone have a minute for a wifi question?
[05:49] <adaptr> dominik: so, what did you change ?
[05:49] <adaptr> WiFi is evil :)
[05:49] <magicbronson_> awesome
[05:49] <sam_> just a quick question: If anyone here uses latex or it's derivatives, what's the best way of going about installing a compiler and what not?
[05:50] <adaptr> sam_: compiler for what ?
[05:50] <dominik> adaptr: I removed the 'AllowOverride' on line 12 and replaced it with 'AuthConfig'  http://pastebin.co.uk/7815
[05:51] <adaptr> dominik: that's not what I said, is it ?
[05:51] <adaptr> what was the allowoverride set to before you screwed it up ? it was set to "None"
[05:51] <adaptr> change THAT
[05:52] <adaptr> allowoverride is an apache directive, there's nothing wrong with it
[05:52] <dominik> adaptr: sorry, I think am still having hangover from yesterday :)
[05:52] <adaptr> the argument is what chnages its behaviour
[05:52] <adaptr> never mind, I chose to remain sober this year - I sympathise
[05:52] <adaptr> well, not so much "chose" really.. it just sorta happened
[05:59] <dominik> adaptr: you are the greatest of them all
[05:59] <dominik> my configuration is now working as expected :) :) :)
[06:00] <brandon_> well does anyone use the zen:m, or know how to connect it in amarok?
[06:00] <adaptr> dominik: please have a look at the official apache documentation, it may explain a few things.. such as, why I have been bitching to you about using htaccess, and if your teachers actually know what they're talking about :)
[06:01] <sam_> adaptr: sorry, a compiler for Latex, it's a typesetting software suite, very powerful, used alot for mathematics papers and the like, got my an High Distinction at university last semester :P
[06:02] <adaptr> dominik: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/howto/htaccess.html#when
[06:02] <adaptr> sam_: I know what LaTex is, but an unqualified "compiler" could be for anything...
[06:03] <sam_> sorry, something similar to Texnic Centre for windows, I'm completely new to linux is all
[06:03] <adaptr> sam_: aha
[06:04] <sam_> I'm unfamiliar with what the norm is for linux when it comes to tex
[06:04] <adaptr> sam_: so presumably you mean a compiler to compile latex source into PostScript ?
[06:04] <adaptr> sam_: erm.. you did hear that LaTex  and Tex were actually developed for Unix, I hope :)
[06:05] <sam_> yeah, or *shudder* pdf. And I did know that, but I'm a noob, and windows is familiar :D
[06:05] <sam_> adaptr: I have seen the error of my ways, praise be to tux :D
[06:05] <eihnat> can any1 help me with bluetooth device? want to pair my bt donge with headset, but they seem not to communicate.
[06:06] <adaptr> sam_: no need to get religious over it.. just browse (or search) the synaptic database for anything latex-y
[06:06] <eihnat> !bluetooth
[06:06] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[06:08] <sam_> thanks :) sorry, there's been a few beers between the start of the installation and now. Also, I've downloaded the nvidia driver package, and when I went to do the sudo  glx enable command, I get the unable to load nvidia kernel driver, any hints?
[06:08] <sam_> nvidia-glx package that is
[06:09] <MidMark> hi, someone know how to setup a wpa2 wireless?
[06:09] <sam_> currently at the driver download area of the nv web site, not sure which driver to use with my dist, kubuntu 6.10 i386
[06:09] <MidMark> because I've tried a lot, followe howtos... but nothing, no connection
[06:10] <adaptr> sam_: you'll need to reboot after installing linux-restricted-modules
[06:10] <lupine_85> sam_: the linux one (9746 probably)
[06:10] <adaptr> sam_: you don't *ever* donwload nvidia shit directly - it's all in Ubuntu
[06:10] <lupine_85> oh, wait. ignore me :D
[06:10] <adaptr> well... unless you like to experiment
[06:11] <adaptr> !nvidia
[06:11] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:11] <sam_> adaptr: figured that, there was just a few linux options
[06:11] <adaptr> ^^^^^^^
[06:11] <lupine_85> or you have an 8800 GT?, of course
[06:11] <lupine_85> but then...
[06:11] <lupine_85> !nvidiabeta
[06:11] <ubotu> For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9746 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable
[06:11] <adaptr> what's special about the 8800 ?
[06:11] <sam_> adaptr: well, I'll see how a restart goes then, thanks!
[06:11] <lupine_85> support only added in the 9xxx series
[06:11] <brandon_> how do i mount a usb device?
[06:12] <tdd1984> hey guys what the config file for kubuntu, I changed my display settings around, and now im getting the command prompt/shell
[06:12] <brandon_> config file?
[06:12] <brandon_> xorg.conf
[06:13] <tdd1984> is that what controls my display settings?
[06:13] <tdd1984> also what folder is located under?
[06:13] <fdoving> !xconfig | tdd1984
[06:13] <ubotu> tdd1984: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[06:13] <lupine_85> tdd1984: yes. /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:13] <brandon_> ... /etc/X11/xorg
[06:13] <brandon_> change it to "vesa"
[06:13] <brandon_> for driver and reboot
[06:13] <tdd1984> okay
[06:13] <tdd1984> but
[06:14] <tdd1984> how do i edit the file again, I can't remember?
[06:14] <lupine_85> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:14] <tdd1984> its not gedit
[06:14] <tdd1984> okay nano thats it
[06:14] <brandon_> sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg/xorg.conf
[06:14] <lupine_85> brandon_: kdesu, not sudo; and not at all when X isn't working
[06:14] <the-erm> What's the command to get dpkg to reconfigure a package ??
[06:14] <adaptr> dpkg-reconfigure ?
[06:14] <brandon_> lupine_85: help me mount my mp3 player
[06:14] <adaptr> or was that too obvious?
[06:15] <tdd1984> is it under screen, or monitor
[06:15] <tdd1984> ?
[06:15] <lupine_85> brandon_: sudo mount /dev/<devicefule> /path/to/mountpoint
[06:15] <lupine_85> possibly with -t <fs-type> as well
[06:15] <brandon_> lupine_85: how do i see the devie first
[06:15] <lupine_85> I have no idea what the device file would be
[06:15] <brandon_> where it is
[06:15] <tdd1984> What happen is I cahgned it to wide screen from the regular one, and it won't boot up now
[06:15] <lupine_85> depends on the device, you see...
[06:15] <brandon_> fdisk -l isn't listingn it
[06:15] <brandon_> it's usb mp3 player
[06:16] <brandon_> i mean how do i check and see where it is?
[06:16] <the-erm> thanks adaptr
[06:16] <tdd1984> hey brandon was you talking to me on the device?
[06:16] <lupine_85> brandon_: what device file it's assigned depends on what other devices you've got installed on your PC. It's probably /dev/sdXX thoguh
[06:16] <brandon_> yeah if you have an answer
[06:16] <lupine_85> though*
[06:16] <tdd1984> yes it was device 1 i changed
[06:16] <brandon_> lupine_85: is there a way to check?
[06:17] <tdd1984> i changed it to wide screen, then it would not boot after that, I got the shell
[06:17] <lupine_85> brandon_: probably, but I don't know it
[06:17] <brandon_> can i mount it as sdXX?
[06:17] <lupine_85> no
[06:17] <lupine_85> XX is to be filled in by you
[06:18] <lupine_85> sd as well, since it might not be
[06:18] <lupine_85> (but usually is)
[06:18] <brandon_> oh wth, on my desktop it's listed as a digital camera!
[06:18] <lupine_85> ...then use that
[06:18] <brandon_> how do i see it's location?
[06:18] <tdd1984> okay guess no one in here can answer my question?
[06:18] <brandon_> in properties it says /
[06:19] <mrreview> hi
[06:19] <lupine_85> brandon_: if it's already mounted, it'll be listed in /etc/mtab
[06:20] <brandon_> there are a lot of listings in here
[06:20] <brandon_> how can i tell?
[06:20] <brandon_> procbususb?
[06:20] <brandon_> binfmt_misc
[06:20] <brandon_> devpts
[06:21] <tdd1984> hey guys do you know how i get this back to normal I cahnged it to widescreen, but I can't get it back to normal
[06:21] <brandon_> camera://Creative Zen Vision@[usb:002,007] /
[06:21] <tdd1984> brand_: what did you tell me to change it to earlier?
[06:22] <brandon_> vesa
[06:22] <tdd1984> where that located at?
[06:22] <tdd1984> whats vesa doo?
[06:22] <adaptr> not much...
[06:22] <brandon_> changes back to the default driver
[06:22] <tdd1984> do i changed monitor or what?
[06:22] <tdd1984> where do i change it to vesa at?
[06:22] <brandon_> idk
[06:22] <adaptr> tdd1984: I suspect some of your keys are broken
[06:22] <brandon_> whereever driver is listed
[06:22] <tdd1984> adaptr my keys?
[06:22] <brandon_> in quotes
[06:22] <tdd1984> well thats what im asking
[06:23] <tdd1984> I see section "screen", section "monitor"?
[06:23] <adaptr> tdd1984: yes.. primarily your apostrophe
[06:23] <tdd1984> Yea, but what section?
[06:23] <tdd1984> device,screen?
[06:23] <brandon_> device
[06:23] <tdd1984> okay I have identifier, boardname, busid, driver
[06:23] <tdd1984> do i changed the driver to vesa
[06:24] <brandon_> yes
[06:24] <brandon_> only in quotes
[06:24] <tdd1984> okay and it will restart the hole video card back to default?
[06:24] <mrreview> I have little problem trying to start Google Earth.. it shows me this error: ./googleearth-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libXcursor.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:25] <mrreview> i have installed this libXcursor
[06:27] <sam_> just tried a reboot, then tried changing to the legacy driver also, still same problem, what was that repository quoted earlier?
[06:29] <larson9999> where is the add user gui in edgy?
[06:29] <tdd1984> brandon_: now im getitng nothing, but a green screen?
[06:30] <tdd1984> brandon_: now im getitng nothing, but a green screen?
[06:30] <tdd1984> brandon_: now im getitng nothing, but a green screen?\\
[06:34] <larson9999> it's not there!  oh no! i'll have to add a user the old fashioned way
[06:35] <bbeck> Has anyone noticed Amarok using 60-80% of the cpu even when it appears to be doing nothing but sitting in the system tray?
[06:35] <tdd1984> brandon_: i got it working, but vesa went back to i810
[06:35] <tdd1984> not working, but back to the shell prmompt
[06:36] <brandon_> did you restart?
[06:37] <mrreview> is there any solution for this error?
[06:37] <brandon_> if you did restart than change it back to the way you had it
[06:37] <mrreview> ./googleearth-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libXcursor.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:41] <killermach> I just installed a PVR-350 and tvtime says it cannot open video source, anyone have one installed and can give some pointers?
[06:50] <MidMark> anyone that knows how to configure a wpa2 wireless?
[06:50] <MidMark> I've followed tons of how-to
[06:51] <MidMark> there are a lot of confusion about wpa-supplicant, ifupdown :/
[06:55] <tdd1984> hey guys I changed my resulution, and device 1 under the video configuration to wide screen, but now im getting the shell prompt, how do i get this to boot back up?
[06:56] <XVampireX> Hi
[06:56] <XVampireX> Does anyone know how kubuntu manages auto-mounting?
[06:56] <XVampireX> and unmounting
[06:56] <XVampireX> Is it just pure hal/dbus interaction or are there some specific preconfigured settings for them?
[06:58] <rance> XVampireX: there is a config file, (which I'm looking for still) that controls what kde does with the different types of data it finds, but I'm noticiing several problems with audio cds
[07:00] <killermach> tdd1984: there should have been a backup copy of /etc/X11/xorg.conf made, copy the vackup file over the xorg.conf and you should get a GUI again
[07:01] <XVampireX> rance: Oh, ok, I asked over at #kde
[07:01] <XVampireX> Why I need it is because I got to Arch a while ago (From Kubuntu) and it seems like it's really missing out the point
[07:02] <tdd1984> killermach: do what now?
[07:03] <XVampireX> But if that won't get resolved soon I think I'm going back to kubuntu :P
[07:03] <magicbronson_> anyone have any experience with belkin usb wifi adapters?
[07:03] <killermach> what package is make in?? for years of installing linux distros I've never had to hunt it, being able to compile software was always at my finger tips from install. ubuntu seems to leave it out
[07:03] <tdd1984> wheres the backup file located at?
[07:03] <tdd1984> I never made one
[07:04] <towync> both nvidia driver 9746 and 9631 work with beryl right, just wanted to make sure before i install them, no known problems?
[07:04] <killermach> tdd1984: look in /etc/X11/ and you will see xorg.conf, this is your current config for X, you should also notice other xorg.conf.whatever files, these are backups
[07:04] <tdd1984> k hold on
[07:05] <killermach> tdd1984: you resolution change should have made a backup xorg.conf."whatever" for you
[07:05] <tdd1984> k i see so it will show a date
[07:05] <tdd1984> nice I see xorg.conf, xorg.conf~,xorg.conf.1
[07:05] <killermach> ok, I've installed gcc,g++, automake, and still no make, where is "make"
[07:06] <tdd1984> killermach: which one do i use?
[07:06] <towync> o killermach, to set resolution, can i do that when i first install nvidia driver with the command: nvidia-xconfig 1280x1024, i remember i was able to set resolution during nvidia setup last time, but i forget the exact command
[07:07] <killermach> tdd1984:  I would try the previous dated one, look at the file dates/times
[07:07] <sam_> another question, after installing my video drivers, I seem to have lost sound. Not sure where to start fixing it. Have checked all volumes and speaker connections, so it's not simple :P Was thinking I may have to change IRQ and DMA settings, if so, how should I do it?
[07:07] <tdd1984> wheres it showing the date at?
[07:07] <brandon_> jucato are you here?
[07:08] <tdd1984> these are the ones I see xorg.conf, xorg.conf~,xorg.conf.1
[07:08] <killermach> towync: I think you can do something like, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, not sure the exact command
[07:09] <hyper_ch> !palm
[07:09] <ubotu> A good guide for setting up Palm devices is at http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/PalmOS-HOWTO.html#PC-CONNECT-USB
[07:09] <tdd1984> sorry got disconnected what'd you say
[07:10] <towync> killermach cool thx i'll search around more and report if i find it exactly
[07:10] <towync> anyone using beryl with nvidia driver 9631 or 97**, any known problems? i'd like to know before i install one of those new drivers
[07:11] <killermach> go figure.. "make" is in the "make" package.. I must have over looked it .. sheesh :) I would have thought one of you would have know this right off
[07:11] <tdd1984> killermach: which one is it xorg.conf~,xorg.conf.1?
[07:12] <tdd1984> I've done redited it like 10 times since its messed up
[07:12] <zach_> hey, does anyone know what I should do to mount my secondary hard drive?
[07:13] <killermach> tdd1984: not the one w/ the tilde, this is usually made as a backup when you edit the file, and will go away when you close the editor, at least vi does this)
[07:14] <tdd1984> how do i rename the file
[07:14] <tdd1984> to xorg.conf from xorg.conf~
[07:15] <tdd1984> okay got it
[07:16] <zach_> does anyone know how to mount a secondary hd in ubuntu?
[07:18] <killermach> how come there are no 2.6.x kernel listings in synaptics when I search "kernel"??? I'm trying to build the ivtv driver
[07:18] <tdd1984> hold on im getting somewhere
[07:18] <tdd1984> i see my cursor
[07:19] <tdd1984> great its working
[07:19] <tdd1984> ill be home in a mintue
[07:20] <remy> hey can guys help me?
[07:20] <Ace2016> !ask
[07:20] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:20] <remy> most people dont want to help newbs :p
[07:21] <remy> Anyway, my friend sent me this: irc.hf-irc.net
[07:21] <remy> then he sent /j #cake
[07:21] <remy> how do I connect, etc?
[07:21] <Ace2016> are you using konversation?
[07:22] <remy> yeh
[07:22] <Ace2016> file > server list
[07:22] <Ace2016> click new
[07:22] <Ace2016> give it a name, add a server and add the channel to join
[07:23] <Ace2016> and create a new identity for that network
[07:23] <remy> ok
[07:24] <remy> I had my server and channel mixed
[07:24] <kay> !de
[07:24] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:25] <cloakable> Does anyone know how much ram a minimal ubuntu install with kde-core would consume?
[07:26] <tiago> \nick gunguz
[07:26] <gunguz> hi
[07:31] <dennis_> hi there!
[07:32] <towync> hi
[07:32] <matthew_> dennis_, what's up? Got a problem w/ kubuntu?
[07:32] <dennis_> does anyone know if it's safe to connect to just any wireless modem?
[07:32] <towync> hi mathew_ lol i was "computer" yesterday
[07:32] <matthew_> towync, oh, cool!
[07:33] <towync> actually early this morning but it's been 8 hrs
[07:33] <matthew_> dennis_, I would be careful around coffee shops...there's a method some people use to access personal data
[07:33] <pwn4tt4ck> hahah
[07:33] <pwn4tt4ck> I had a friend tell me he was going to coffee shops to get personal data :p
[07:33] <dennis_> am here at some place and picked up some network, don't know from who
[07:33] <pwn4tt4ck> I told him that was a bad idea
[07:33] <froud> Anyone know if the dist-upgrade from dapper to edgy works
[07:34] <matthew_> dennis_, they setup a wireless access point w/ the same name as a valid one...if you connect to it...someone will be able to see all data that goes through.
[07:34] <matthew_> dennis_, if you don't know the guy whose network it is...leave it alone....
[07:34] <matthew_> my opinion only
[07:34] <towync> lol
[07:34] <towync> *hint hint*
[07:34] <towync> j/k
[07:35] <mohammed> hey guys evening/morning
[07:35] <pwn4tt4ck> hey
[07:35] <towync> good afternoon
[07:35] <pwn4tt4ck> mid-day here
[07:35] <dennis_> what could they do?
[07:35] <mohammed> i get
[07:35] <mohammed> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[07:35] <mohammed> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[07:35] <mohammed> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.1)
[07:35] <matthew_> !pastebin
[07:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:36] <mohammed> when i enter this command fxglinfo
[07:38] <mohammed> i want just to completely remove the existing driver and install the supposed ati driver
[07:38] <matthew_> mohammed, do this in a console:      sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:39] <matthew_> mohammed, you can select the ati driver from there. Don't forget to restart your X server after.
[07:39] <[atthetopoftheli> kthx
[07:39] <mohammed> autodetect ?
[07:40] <matthew_> mohammed, it should
[07:40] <pwn4tt4ck> My friend is trying to convince me to switch to fedora core four
[07:40] <pwn4tt4ck> what do you think?
[07:41] <matthew_> pwn4tt4ck, I would stay with kubuntu, simply because I'm starting to learn all the ins and outs of the system.
[07:41] <mohammed> ok thanks
[07:41] <matthew_> mohammed, np
[07:41] <daedra> pwn4tt4ck, what are your needs in linux?
[07:41] <pwn4tt4ck> I just really hate windows
[07:42] <pwn4tt4ck> I wanted something secure that I could program in
[07:42] <pwn4tt4ck> and linux seems to support that
[07:42] <daedra> yeah theres mono for VB.net now :)
[07:42] <fdoving> pwn4tt4ck: you're asking in the correct channel. i'd disagree with your friend. however, if you're new to linux, and your friend know a little bit more than you about linux, you could harvest more from his experience if you use the same distro.
[07:42] <pwn4tt4ck> makes sense
[07:43] <pwn4tt4ck> Fundamentally, is either one better than the other?
[07:43] <VR_> bleurgh! is there possibly a howto on compiling qtcurve?
[07:44] <fdoving> pwn4tt4ck: it's about taste, i personally prefer the way things are done in ubuntu over the way fedora do things. it's all about what you're comfortable with.
[07:44] <pwn4tt4ck> awesome, thanks :D
[07:45] <Xera> hey
[07:45] <Xera> anyone know where i can get a driver for a radeon gecube 9250? the official one breaks kubuntu
[07:46] <Blissex> Xera: built into Xorg.
[07:46] <Xera> really?
[07:47] <Xera> because this is running slower than my onboard card
[07:47] <Xera> ._.
[07:48] <dharmesh> hi
[07:49] <pwn4tt4ck> hey
[07:52] <sam_> anyone have any experience with trying to install an Hercules Gamesurround Muse 5.1? I think I'm supposed to use alsa, but I'm unsure
[07:52] <Blissex> Xera: probably it got autoconfigured with VESA or something liek that or FB. Make sure it is using the 'radeon' driver, it should even have full 3D acceleration via built in DRI.
[07:52] <pwn4tt4ck> dude, it took me ages to figure wine out :p
[07:52] <pwn4tt4ck> I feel like such a newb
[07:52] <dharmesh> hi
[07:52] <pwn4tt4ck> hello again
[07:52] <Xera> Blissex: how do i do that?
[07:52] <Xera> >.<
[07:53] <pwn4tt4ck> lol
[07:56] <Blissex> Xera: well, you need to reconfigure X using one of the various methods described on the wiki.
[07:56] <Blissex> pwn4tt4ck: WINE is quite hard to setup... Don't feel too bad.
[07:56] <Xera> uh? hard? xd
[07:56] <lotusleaf> Blissex: wine is simple to setup
[07:56] <Xera> sudo apt-get install wine
[07:56] <Xera> winecfg
[07:56] <Xera> done
[07:56] <lotusleaf> Blissex: it's easy to build from source too
[07:56] <pwn4tt4ck> hahaha
[07:56] <pwn4tt4ck> :p
[07:56] <lotusleaf> Xera: in kcontrol/admin it sets it up FOR you, no need to use winecfg
[07:57] <Xera> meh
[07:57] <Admiral_Chicago> rxvt*modifier: alt
[07:57] <Admiral_Chicago> err
[07:57] <Admiral_Chicago> irssi :P
[07:57] <pwn4tt4ck> everytime I've ever installed linux it always chooses gnome... how do I switch to KDE?
[07:57] <brandon_> anyone here?
[07:57] <hyper_ch> !pinnacle
[07:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pinnacle - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:57] <Admiral_Chicago> pwn4tt4ck: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:58] <Admiral_Chicago> brandon_: yu[
[07:58] <lotusleaf> pwn4tt4ck: download the kubuntu cd or dvd iso *or* sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:58] <Xera> pwn4tt4ck: download kubuntu instead of ubuntu? ._.
[07:58] <hyper_ch> !factoids search pinnacle
[07:58] <Admiral_Chicago> chose KDE when you log in if you do kubuntu-desktop install
[07:58] <pwn4tt4ck> which do you guys recommend, kde or gnome? I might switch cause gnome has nothing that works lol
[07:59] <brandon_> how do i get wine on x86_64?
[07:59] <Xera> kde rocks
[07:59] <velle> when using apt-get (or aptitude) how do i get to know if a package is already installed, and if i want to install python how do i get to know which version of python will be installed?
[07:59] <Theory> pwn4tt4ck: asking in this channel you may get a slightly biased response :-)
[07:59] <pwn4tt4ck> lol
[07:59] <pwn4tt4ck> right, kubuntu
[07:59] <pwn4tt4ck> got it
[07:59] <Theory> I'd suggest trying both, see which you like better
[07:59] <pwn4tt4ck> :p
[07:59] <Admiral_Chicago> pwn4tt4ck: i like KDE
[07:59] <pwn4tt4ck> I'm pissed at gnome
[07:59] <kog_> I have a noob question: I installed MySQL, but I have no clue where to start/stop the MySQL server process, or services in general
[07:59] <Xera> kde > gnome
[07:59] <Admiral_Chicago> I'm using GNOME now, and it has a lot of nice features. but no KDE is better no doubt
[07:59] <hyper_ch> kog_: sudo /etc/init.d/mysqld start/restart/stop
[08:00] <kog_> thanks
[08:00] <pwn4tt4ck> so what was the command again? and am I about to lose everything?
[08:00] <hyper_ch> <-- Xfce :)
[08:00] <HymnToLife> kog_, sudo /etc/init.d/something [start|stop|restart] 
[08:00] <kog_> is there a gui tool for browsing services?
[08:00] <Admiral_Chicago> blasphemy
[08:00] <HymnToLife> and yeah, for mysql it's mysqld
[08:00] <hyper_ch> kog_: hmmm.... I use command shell...
[08:00] <brandon_> has anyone gotten any creative mp3 devices working on linux?
[08:00] <hyper_ch> kog_: top
[08:00] <hyper_ch> kog_: ps aux | grep string
[08:01] <kog_> ok, thanks all
[08:02] <pwn4tt4ck> word
[08:02] <pwn4tt4ck> *installs kunbuntu
[08:02] <Admiral_Chicago> brandon_: i think there is a tool
[08:02] <dharmesh> hi every1.... i m a GNOME user... i hav recently installed KDE also. i want 2 knw how 2 update my system like there is a system update utility in GNOME.
[08:02] <Admiral_Chicago> dharmesh: adept
[08:02] <lotusleaf> dharmesh: there's Adept, but I use Synaptic in Kubuntu =)
[08:02] <lotusleaf> dharmesh: Synaptic is delicious
[08:02] <brandon_> Admiral_Chicago: for some reason gnomad2 says it's not connected
[08:02] <Admiral_Chicago> synaptic is a good tool too, I like it
[08:03] <hyper_ch> dharmesh: or run a cron as root:   apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[08:03] <dharmesh> wht d cammand in konsole?
[08:03] <Admiral_Chicago> brandon_: have you tried...hmm i forget it
[08:03] <hyper_ch> or should it be apt-get -y upgrade ?
[08:03] <brandon_> kzenexplorer?
[08:03] <dharmesh> is it same like apt-get
[08:03] <brandon_> yes
[08:03] <brandon_> and amarok, yes
[08:03] <Admiral_Chicago> dharmesh: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:03] <brandon_> is there a way i should mount it?
[08:03] <Admiral_Chicago> brandon_: sec
[08:03] <sam_> anyone have any experience with trying to install an Hercules Gamesurround Muse 5.1? I think I'm supposed to use alsa, but I'm unsure
[08:03] <brandon_> okay
[08:03] <sam_> !alsa
[08:03] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[08:03] <dharmesh> pl
[08:03] <dharmesh> ok
[08:03] <lotusleaf> !hwdb
[08:03] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Hardware Database can be found at http://hwdb.ubuntu.com/
[08:03] <hyper_ch> Admiral_Chicago: dist-upgrade? a simple upgrade should be fine :)
[08:03] <dharmesh> thanx wil
[08:03] <dharmesh> try
[08:04] <pwn4tt4ck> how did you guys and gals learn all of these linux commands? time spent doing it?
[08:04] <brandon_> Admiral_Chicago: I honestly think that I just need to mount it.
[08:04] <Admiral_Chicago> brandon_: check in media:/
[08:04] <Admiral_Chicago> alos, kzenexplorer may work
[08:04] <brandon_> kzenexplorer says it's not connected too and closes
[08:04] <Admiral_Chicago> hyper_ch: i just always use that method
[08:05] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, have it mount...I had that same problem with my sister's player brandon_
[08:05] <brandon_> Admiral_Chicago: how do i have it mount, and thank you for the help!
[08:06] <brandon_> in media:/ it says USB Interface, but on desktop it shows a camera
[08:06] <brandon_> edit fstab?
[08:06] <pwn4tt4ck> so after I did the sudo etc kubuntu thing
[08:06] <Admiral_Chicago> man mount
[08:06] <TheInfinity> hmm ... then also here the question: is there any known way to get pinnacle pc-tv sat ci to run?
[08:06] <Admiral_Chicago> i don't know what file system it uses.
[08:06] <pwn4tt4ck> which default display thing do I want: Gdm or kdm?
[08:06] <brandon_> that mtb
[08:06] <TheInfinity> with suse it works - if google is right - but i want to use kubuntu ;)
[08:06] <Admiral_Chicago> kdm
[08:06] <brandon_> libmtb
[08:06] <lotusleaf> pwn4tt4ck: kdm for kde
[08:06] <pwn4tt4ck> k awsome
[08:07] <pwn4tt4ck> am I going to lose everything?
[08:07] <pwn4tt4ck> or is it just adding kubuntu?
[08:07] <Admiral_Chicago> brandon_: can you see the files
[08:07] <brandon_> no
[08:07] <Admiral_Chicago> wait, right click it can you mount it that wat?
[08:07] <brandon_> could not read /
[08:07] <lotusleaf> pwn4tt4ck: you can always reconfigure it to use gdm or login to gnome later
[08:07] <Admiral_Chicago> /s/wat/way
[08:07] <pwn4tt4ck> lotusleaf: thanks :D
[08:07] <lotusleaf> pwn4tt4ck: yw =)
[08:07] <Admiral_Chicago> lotusleaf: no, you can log into gnome using kdm
[08:08] <lotusleaf> Admiral_Chicago: which is why I said -or- but thanks ;)
[08:08] <brandon_> Base URL:  camera://Creative Zen Vision@[usb:002,004] /
[08:08] <Admiral_Chicago> ah neverming
[08:08] <lotusleaf> :D
[08:08] <Admiral_Chicago> i read too quickly
[08:08] <pwn4tt4ck> :D <-- pwnass face
[08:08] <brandon_> Admiral_Chicago: what filesystem do you suspect it is?
[08:08] <Admiral_Chicago> brandon_: in konqueror, try camera:/
[08:08] <pwn4tt4ck> everyone: Who knows who Steve Vai is?
[08:08] <Admiral_Chicago> pwn4tt4ck: who doesn't, but is this on topic?
[08:08] <TheInfinity> hmm ... noone here who can help me getting this tv card to work?
[08:09] <lotusleaf> pwn4tt4ck: you may also install other window managers/desktop environments  too and use them like openbox, blackbox, fluxbox, enlightenment, xfce, etc.
[08:09] <lotusleaf> TheInfinity: have you tried #ubuntu ?
[08:09] <brandon_> camera:/ shows a folder!!!
[08:09] <brandon_> drag mp3's onto it?
[08:09] <Admiral_Chicago> yea
[08:09] <brandon_> sweet
[08:09] <lotusleaf> TheInfinity: if people are busy or too hung over from xmas you could also try http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ and http://www.linuxquestions.org/
[08:09] <pwn4tt4ck> lotusleaf: I didnt even know any of them existed...
[08:09] <Admiral_Chicago> i think it's in the media folder
[08:09] <lotusleaf> pwn4tt4ck: there are lots of window managers
[08:10] <TheInfinity> lotusleaf: thanks *channelhopping is fun* ;)
[08:10] <lotusleaf> pwn4tt4ck: then there's also some pretty things like compiz and beryl ;)
[08:10] <lotusleaf> TheInfinity: yw
[08:10] <ReTyPe> i installed kde on my ubuntu, but everything (firefox, azureus) still looks like gnome, how do i fix this ?
[08:10] <pwn4tt4ck> lotusleaf: I am such a newb
[08:10] <pwn4tt4ck> :p
[08:10] <brandon_> Admiral_Chicago: writing to camera is not supported, cancel, skip, auto skip
[08:10] <lotusleaf> ReTyPe: kcontrol -> appearance & themes -> gtk styles and fonts
[08:11] <php-freak> hey guys is there a way i can run dual monitor with kubuntu?
[08:11] <Admiral_Chicago> brandon_: hmm hold on
[08:11] <php-freak> dual desktop with 2 lcd screens?
[08:11] <Admiral_Chicago> php-freak: yes
[08:11] <Admiral_Chicago> there is a guide somewhere not sure where
[08:11] <pwn4tt4ck> php-freak: what version php do you like best?
[08:11] <Admiral_Chicago> my buffy has it
[08:11] <Admiral_Chicago> my buddy*
[08:12] <php-freak> 5.2
[08:12] <pwn4tt4ck> kthx
[08:12] <php-freak> admiral_chicago: why?
[08:12] <Admiral_Chicago> php-freak: ?
[08:12] <php-freak> admiral_chacigo: how do i run dual desktops?
[08:12] <php-freak> i got both of my lcd screens up now
[08:12] <Admiral_Chicago> like I said, there is a guide somewhere...maybe the bot knows
[08:12] <Admiral_Chicago> !dualscreen
[08:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dualscreen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:12] <Admiral_Chicago> !X
[08:12] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:12] <lotusleaf> php-freak: also check wiki.ubuntu.com
[08:13] <lotusleaf> php-freak: and search the ubuntuforums
[08:13] <ReTyPe> lotusleaf: and what do i have to change, i tried, but didn't change
[08:13] <brandon_> Admiral_Chicago: any ideas?
[08:13] <Admiral_Chicago> brandon_: is it mounted?
[08:13] <lotusleaf> ReTyPe: make sure you have the gtk2-engines-qt thing installed
[08:13] <brandon_> how can i check?
[08:14] <Admiral_Chicago> media:/ in the address bar of Konqui
[08:14] <php-freak> do i need a dual video card? or will a y adapter work?
[08:14] <brandon_> it does not say mounted, no
[08:14] <brandon_> it says camera
[08:14] <pwn4tt4ck> everyone: What do I do after the kubuntu install?
[08:14] <brandon_> where my other drives say mounted, it says camera
[08:14] <pwn4tt4ck> should I restart my whole pc?
[08:14] <lotusleaf> ReTyPe: then once that's installed, and perhaps the other one too for gtk / qt you can reconfigure it and select Qt
[08:14] <Admiral_Chicago> right click it, what are the options?
[08:15] <Admiral_Chicago> is one mount?
[08:15] <brandon_> digiKam detect and download
[08:15] <brandon_> no
[08:15] <kredit> hi, I need some help. I've Asus A6500U notebook with 0,35 Mpixel webcam and the Gaim vv not see the webcam
[08:15] <brandon_> no mount option
[08:15] <ReTyPe> gtk2-engines-gt-qt you mean ?
[08:15] <mindspin> does anybody know how to import mp4 files into kino ?
[08:15] <Admiral_Chicago> brandon_: okay it's not mounted. hmm, try sudo fdisk -l
[08:16] <Admiral_Chicago> what filesystems fo you get
[08:16] <brandon_> it appears as if it's not listed
[08:17] <Admiral_Chicago> actually i know why.
[08:17] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm try usbls
[08:17] <pwn4tt4ck> ok help now
[08:17] <pwn4tt4ck> its finished doing its thing
[08:17] <pwn4tt4ck> what do I do?
[08:17] <brandon_> usbls?
[08:17] <Admiral_Chicago> that's not a command nvm
[08:17] <brandon_> command not found
[08:18] <mindspin> lsusb?
[08:18] <Admiral_Chicago> thats it
[08:18] <brandon_> yeah
[08:18] <brandon_> Bus 002 Device 004: ID 041e:413e Creative Technology, Ltd
[08:19] <brandon_> there it is
[08:19] <amb> Hej r nn som vet hur man installerar NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9746-pkg1 i ubuntu 6.06?
[08:19] <pwn4tt4ck> How do I switch to KDE?
[08:19] <brandon_> can i mount from usb
[08:19] <mindspin> !swe
[08:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:19] <mindspin> !se
[08:19] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[08:19] <Admiral_Chicago> that's a good question
[08:19] <mindspin> !ati
[08:19] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:19] <Admiral_Chicago> let's find ouy
[08:19] <Admiral_Chicago> /s/ouy/out
[08:19] <php-freak> now i will need a dual video card to support the dual desktop with 2 lcd screens right? or can I just use a y adapter
[08:20] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm the bot doesn't know
[08:20] <pwn4tt4ck> hola eduardo
[08:21] <pwn4tt4ck> kthe
[08:21] <pwn4tt4ck> admiral_chicago: How do I switch to kde plz?
[08:21] <mindspin> from gnome?
[08:21] <pwn4tt4ck> mindspin: yes
[08:21] <dharmesh> is there a graphics add/remove in KDE
[08:21] <dharmesh> ?
[08:21] <Admiral_Chicago> pwn4tt4ck: did you install kubuntu?
[08:21] <pwn4tt4ck> chicago: uyes
[08:22] <Admiral_Chicago> dharmesh: yes there is
[08:22] <mindspin> sudo apt-get install kubuntu.-desktop should do
[08:22] <mindspin> without the .
[08:22] <Admiral_Chicago> pwn4tt4ck: restare X. ctrl + shift +backspace
[08:22] <dharmesh> ok
[08:22] <Admiral_Chicago> then log in as KDE
[08:22] <mindspin> oh you have kde installed ;-)
[08:22] <pwn4tt4ck> chicago: thanks :D
[08:23] <dettoaltrimenti_> does anyone here use Knowit? typing replaces selection, and I don't know how to fix this
[08:23] <dharmesh> but its doesnt show all programs(packages) frm all respo
[08:23] <dharmesh> ?
[08:23] <Admiral_Chicago> dharmesh: adept_manager
[08:23] <dharmesh> thanx will try
[08:23] <pwn4tt4ck> admiral_chicago: I'm confused again. where do I do ctrl-shift-backspace?
[08:24] <brandon_> any ideas Admiral_Chicago
[08:24] <Admiral_Chicago> oh you're on GNOME sorry. just log out
[08:24] <pwn4tt4ck> lol ok
[08:24] <pwn4tt4ck> bbs
[08:24] <Admiral_Chicago> brandon_: google mount usb i think
[08:25] <dharmesh> i think i wil stick 2 GNOME this KDE is not my kind
[08:26] <Admiral_Chicago> no?
[08:26] <dharmesh> its very confusin with all its K
[08:26] <Admiral_Chicago> well to each his own
[08:26] <brandon_> brandon@smith:~$ sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb
[08:26] <brandon_> mount: /dev/sda1 already mounted or /mnt/usb busy
[08:26] <brandon_> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is mounted on /
[08:26] <lotusleaf> dharmesh: use what works for you, K? :P
[08:26] <Admiral_Chicago> is there a directory /mnt/usb?
[08:26] <brandon_> yes
[08:27] <dharmesh> i dont knw y thy had 2 name every thing wid K
[08:27] <psychiccyberfrea> when I put in the live CD to install, It goes through the regular boot process and then I get some console saying "could not access tty; job controll turned off"
[08:27] <dharmesh> thank God GNOME is not like tht
[08:27] <mindspin> like gedit
[08:28] <brandon_> Admiral_Chicago: yes there is
[08:28] <dharmesh> or GONSOLE
[08:28] <dharmesh> :)
[08:28] <psychiccyberfrea> can someone help plx
[08:28] <psychiccyberfrea> *plz
[08:28] <dharmesh> its terminal n not GONSOLE
[08:28] <lotusleaf> dharmesh: glipper?
[08:29] <lotusleaf> dharmesh: oops, too late =)
[08:29] <mindspin> gonversation
[08:29] <dharmesh> a few only pal
[08:29] <lotusleaf> gThumb
[08:29] <lotusleaf> gphoto
[08:29] <lotusleaf> gimp gwenview
[08:29] <cloakable> :P
[08:29] <Admiral_Chicago> glipper is based on klipper
[08:29] <lotusleaf> gxine
[08:29] <lotusleaf> etc.
[08:29] <mindspin> dharmish, for being not connected to a server its console for my
[08:29] <Admiral_Chicago> gwenview is a KDE app
[08:29] <brandon_> Admiral_Chicago: please help
[08:30] <lotusleaf> gftp
[08:30] <lotusleaf> gwget the list goes on
[08:30] <psychiccyberfrea> gonqueror
[08:30] <dharmesh> i knw but not 2 d extend KDE components r named wid K
[08:30] <lotusleaf> dharmesh: so much for your point =)
[08:30] <lotusleaf> dharmesh: you might want to try something like fluxbox or openbox ;)
[08:30] <dharmesh> ok
[08:30] <mindspin> dharmesh if that k issue is your only problem, then you are a lucky one
[08:31] <dharmesh> how come?
[08:31] <brandon_> Admiral_Chicago: ?
[08:32] <mindspin> how come what? imho its not of any importance how programs are named...
[08:32] <dharmesh> seriously .............. where d hell is synaptic here in KDE ............ havnt found it yet
[08:32] <pwn4tt4ck> IT WORKS
[08:32] <pwn4tt4ck> I am now in KDE
[08:32] <lotusleaf> dharmesh: synaptic works great in kde
[08:32] <mindspin> adept would do or try kynaptic, if installed
[08:33] <pwn4tt4ck> and this is a helluva lot better than gnome
[08:33] <lotusleaf> dharmesh: System -> Synaptic
[08:33] <mindspin> or even synaptic indeed
[08:33] <dharmesh> just imagine if all our names were also wid a single alphabet thn
[08:33] <lotusleaf> pwn4tt4ck: indeed
[08:33] <dharmesh> wudnt it b boring man
[08:33] <lotusleaf> dharmesh: #kubuntu-offtopic ;)
[08:34] <mindspin> or #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:34] <brandon_> does anyone know how to mount a usb hard drive?
[08:34] <lotusleaf>  Kubuntu
[08:34] <B-Minus> it does that automatic here
[08:34] <mindspin> does anybody know how to import mp4 files into kino ?
[08:36] <Admiral_Chicago> brandon_: sorry i got distracted on AIM
[08:36] <Admiral_Chicago> brandon_: i'm not sure to be honest
[08:36] <Admiral_Chicago> i'd search around on the forums
[08:36] <brandon_> gah, i just made a post
[08:37] <brandon_> only one other person had the problem of not being able to get it to work with gnomad2
[08:37] <dharmesh> any1 used federa ?
[08:37] <Admiral_Chicago> i have, it blows
[08:37] <dharmesh> ok
[08:37] <Admiral_Chicago> that's just my opinion, I have a friend who likes it alot
[08:38] <dharmesh> so d best linux GNU is..........................
[08:38] <mindspin> mine
[08:39] <brandon_> Admiral_Chicago: new message...
[08:39] <brandon_> brandon@smith:~$ sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda /mnt/usb
[08:39] <brandon_> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda,
[08:39] <brandon_>        missing codepage or other error
[08:39] <brandon_>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[08:39] <brandon_>        dmesg | tail  or so
[08:39] <pwn4tt4ck> do I have to reinstall wine?
[08:39] <Admiral_Chicago> change the file system
[08:39] <brandon_> how
[08:40] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda /mnt/usb
[08:40] <Admiral_Chicago> err change the ntfs to fat32
[08:40] <pwn4tt4ck> why doesnt sound work in Kaffeen?
[08:41] <brandon_> no-go
[08:41] <Admiral_Chicago> might be vfat or something else
[08:41] <brandon_> yeah, doesn't work
[08:41] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm not sure, good luck with it.
[08:42] <php-freak> okay I need a dual headed video card, cause I don't think this y adapter is going to work :(
[08:43] <psychiccyberfrea> when I put in the live CD to install, It goes through the regular boot process and then I get some console saying "could not access tty; job controll turned off"
[08:43] <dharmesh> can amarok play mp3? if yes how ?
[08:43] <mindspin> !codecs
[08:43] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:43] <php-freak> from the shell, how can i tell what my exact graphics card is?
[08:45] <dharmesh> guys ono
[08:45] <computer> hey what command checks the nvidia fps
[08:45] <tsdgeos> php-freak: lspci should be enough
[08:45] <computer> like i remember there was a ball bouncing around or something like that
[08:46] <sam_> !alsa
[08:46] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[08:46] <karmikaze> can anyone recommend a good gui program for ripping dvds and converting video formats??
[08:46] <computer> k3b
[08:49] <computer> anyone know what makes the nvidia ball come out
[08:49] <computer> or was it cube
[08:49] <cryptom> Hi all, I'm using ubuntu-server and updated yesterday from dapper to edgy, since then (fstab was changed), I get the error: findfs: Unable to resolve 'UUID=some-uuid'
[08:49] <cryptom> but only with the /-partition, the swap partition works
[08:50] <karmikaze> not to burn, to rip
[08:50] <karmikaze> into a practical format like avi
[08:50] <cryptom> and in addition to that, my keyboard gets dead as soon as grub passes control over to the "-server" kernel (worked fine with dapper)
[08:51] <php-freak> ahhh
[08:51] <pwn4tt4ck> all: why doesnt flash like to show everything?
[08:53] <Captain_Haddock> Hi, can I get some help in getting Samba set up on my box?
[08:53] <cloakable> Captain_Haddock: Sure
[08:54] <Captain_Haddock> cloakable: problem number 1 is that when I go into system settings -> network settings and click on admin mode, it just gives me a blank screen.
[08:55] <cloakable> Captain_Haddock: try kcmshell kcmsambaconf
[08:56] <cloakable> That should get the configuration up.
[08:56] <cloakable> Captain_Haddock: Or kdesu kcmshell kcmsambaconf
[08:57] <cloakable> That will start it as root.
[08:57] <sync350> I'm trying to set up a Photosmart C5100 Series printer, and everytime i set it up to the router, and add it as a network printer, it freezes after I click on the IP of the printer.  So I've tried plugging it into the USB port on my computer, but everytime I set it up, and click test... I get "cannot create temporary printer" and when I finish it tells me that I "don't have access to the requested resource".  Anyone know what I should 
[08:58] <Captain_Haddock> cloakable: plain kcmshell gives me the appropriate pop-up. Clicking on admin mode gives me a blank screen.
[08:58] <Captain_Haddock> cloakable: adding a kdesu before that doesn't even show the pop-up.
[08:59] <Captain_Haddock> maybe that's the problem?
[08:59] <Captain_Haddock> cloakable: ah, I got it by using sudo from the command line.
[08:59] <Captain_Haddock> cheers!
[09:00] <cloakable> No problem :
[09:00] <cloakable> :)
[09:00] <Captain_Haddock> cloakable: so this is a kdesu problem?
[09:00] <pwn4tt4ck> how do I start my own chat?
[09:00] <neoncode> Is their a limit to how many sessions i can have open at once? The ones I launch from "kmenu --> Switch User --> Start New Session" I mean.
[09:01] <sync350> anyone got any suggestions?
[09:01] <cloakable> Captain_Haddock: Yeah. I get problems with kdesu on a lot of apps.
[09:01] <Captain_Haddock> cloakable: ah :(
[09:04] <cloakable> Captain_Haddock: I prefer using sudo instead, for a lot of things.
[09:04] <Captain_Haddock> cloakable: ok. I'll start system settings from here on in via the command line..
[09:04] <Captain_Haddock> rather defeats the purpose though..
[09:05] <cloakable> Captain_Haddock: Doesn't it though?
[09:11] <Captain_Haddock> cloakable: when I'm on the "sharing", I can't seem to enable "NFS" sharing..
[09:12] <Captain_Haddock> should I install something for this?
[09:12] <cloakable> Captain_Haddock: Yeah, but I've never looked how - all the other hosts on my network use SMB.
[09:12] <Captain_Haddock> I've selected and applied "Advanced sharing".
[09:13] <pwn4tt4ck> why arent there any operators?
[09:13] <cloakable> Captain_Haddock: Fair enough :)
[09:13] <Captain_Haddock> cloakable: (that didn't actually help much :P)
[09:14] <Captain_Haddock> selecting advanced sharing, that is..
[09:14] <cloakable> Captain_Haddock: Why do you need to enable NFS?
[09:14] <Captain_Haddock> ok, NFS is postponed.. next question:
[09:14] <VR_> sweet jesus... qtcurve is AWESOME
[09:15] <Captain_Haddock> cloakable: I actually have an old box (my brother's) running suse 9.3, whose files I want to transfer over and then update to kubuntu.
[09:16] <cloakable> Captain_Haddock: And it's not running samba?
[09:16] <Captain_Haddock> cloakable: I think it is. I didn't know that two linux boxes could share via samba :o
[09:16] <Captain_Haddock> I thought that's what NFS is for :P
[09:18] <Captain_Haddock> bbia 30 minutes.
[09:18] <Captain_Haddock> thanks for your help cloakable!
[09:18] <cloakable> Captain_Haddock: Yep. All Samba dows is make your box look like a windows box on the network, and let you connect to windows boxes :)
[09:20] <timothy> hey
[09:24] <xj24> how can i print a pdf scaled to x%?
[09:25] <alwa> hello ... has some a link to the deb file of acerhk
[09:28] <flavia> hello everybody, can anybody help me with autodetecting my mp3 player? I'm able to mount it manually and it shows with lsusb, I've also tried to add it to vfat but it still doesn't seem to mount automatically
[09:29] <flavia> sorry I meant I added it to fstab
[09:29] <daniel77> hi
[09:30] <daniel77> i have just installed beryl, how to configure it
[09:30] <daniel77> :D
[09:30] <remy> help
[09:30] <lupine_85> daniel77: configure it with beryl-settings
[09:30] <remy> k, it autoconnects me as remy as my nick, how do I change that?
[09:31] <remy> cause I'm getting tired of /nick
[09:31] <daniel77> can you give me sometips
[09:31] <daniel77> plz
[09:31] <daniel77> for example, how to make a window transparent when i'm moving it
[09:32] <genii> matthew_ :)
[09:33] <genii> stdin Did ya get Herd1 sorted out?
[09:36] <kraut> moin
[09:39] <Admiral_Chicago> remy: what client?
[09:40] <remy> konversation
[09:40] <remy> :D
[09:40] <Admiral_Chicago> remy: go to server list, on file
[09:40] <Admiral_Chicago> brb
[09:40] <remy> lol k
[09:41] <VR_> you know what
[09:41] <VR_> i think qtcurve should be the default style for KDE
[09:42] <VR_> it convinced me to leave gnome behind for christ's sake
[09:42] <remy> got it
[09:42] <remy> thanks admiral_chicago
[09:44] <pwn4tt4ck> word up
[09:46] <VR_> word, pwn4tt4ck
[09:46] <VR_> pizzwn
[09:47] <pwn4tt4ck> lmao
[09:48] <VR_> i hated the way firefox looked in kde
[09:48] <pwn4tt4ck> I use kopete
[09:48] <VR_> now i'm very happy
[09:48] <intelikey> i hated the way ff looked out of kde too
[09:48] <VR_> intelikey: what was your solution
[09:48] <linopil> where do I tell ubuntu what lang to use for upper ascii AKA non-unicode ?
[09:48] <intelikey> don't use it.
[09:48] <VR_> ha!
[09:49] <VR_> fool!
[09:49] <lupine_85> konqueror > firefox
[09:49] <VR_> No way, son
[09:49] <pwn4tt4ck> yeh
[09:49] <VR_> FF rules all
[09:49] <pwn4tt4ck> 'cept konqueror, who rules firefox
[09:50] <intelikey> ff smells of an unsaviory stench.
[09:50] <linopil> where do I tell ubuntu what lang to use for upper ascii AKA non-unicode ?
[09:50] <VR_> come on man, gmail doesnt even like konq
[09:50] <VR_> i mean come ON
[09:50] <pwn4tt4ck> come off!
[09:50] <intelikey> so who wants gmail
[09:50] <pwn4tt4ck> </3 gmail
[09:51] <pwn4tt4ck> I dont see the problem with hotmail lmfao
[09:51] <cloakable> pwn4tt4ck: hotmail has no pop3 :P
[09:51] <pwn4tt4ck> true
[09:51] <pwn4tt4ck> I use my server for mail too :D
[09:51] <VR_> ha! hotmail
[09:52] <pwn4tt4ck> My family all know my hotmail account
[09:52] <pwn4tt4ck> so I use it
[09:52] <VR_> uh huh
[09:52] <VR_> but seriously
[09:52] <VR_> firefox
[09:52] <VR_> give it a chance
[09:52] <intelikey> last time i looded at hotmail spam bots all knew it too....
[09:52] <pwn4tt4ck> hmm
[09:53] <pwn4tt4ck> Maybe I should just use my server from now on...
[09:53] <VR_> it looks so beautifully nice with qtcurves
[09:53] <pwn4tt4ck> brb let me set that up
[09:53] <intelikey> VR_ i gave ff a chance.  i have absolutely no use for it.
[09:53] <VR_> yes, but intelikey, sir!
[09:54] <VR_> some websites look so horrid in konq
[09:54] <intelikey> VR_ i never said konq either.
[09:54] <intelikey> well not in this convo
[09:54] <cloakable> VR_: Yeah, and konq is the standards compliant one :P
[09:55] <pwn4tt4ck> I forgot my freakin' password to my server
[09:55] <pwn4tt4ck> :|
[09:56] <intelikey> hehhe that's why i don't use a passwd,   well not why but it prevents that.
[09:56] <VR_> i also dont know how to set up flash9 in konq
[09:56] <intelikey> i also don't do flash.
[09:56] <VR_> intelikey: you're old-school, sir
[09:56] <intelikey> yup
[09:57] <VR_> how do you view half the websites on the internet
[09:57] <pwn4tt4ck> magic
[09:57] <pwn4tt4ck> hahaha
[09:58] <VR_> hehe
[10:02] <pwn4tt4ck> so, quien here habla the espanol?
[10:02] <intelikey> !es
[10:02] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[10:03] <cplusplus> hi
[10:03] <pwn4tt4ck> hahaha
[10:03] <timothy> is there a cli method of doing  Ctrl-Alt-plus
[10:03] <Fibbs> Hi folks
[10:03] <pwn4tt4ck> hey fibbs
[10:04] <Fibbs> i have a problem with mkinitramfs, it does not accept the parameters --supported-target-version and --supported-host-version, the manpage tells me it does so, is this a known bug or something like this?
[10:04] <intelikey> timothy indeed,   but i dont know what it is.
[10:04] <levander> I've been downloading with KTorrent for a few hours now but still no uploading going on.  I forwarded the two port numbers in Settings -> Configure KTorrent -> Downloads.  Any idea what else could be wrong?
[10:04] <cloakable> levander: Perhaps nobody is uploading from you?
[10:05] <levander> cloakable: is that normal?  i'm kind of new to bittorrent
[10:05] <Fibbs> my problem is that installation of linux-image-generic fails because the postinst script tries to call the command /usr/sbin/mkinitramfs --supported-host-version=2.6.17-10-generic --supported-target-version=2.6.17-10-generic to find out if mkinitrd is able to create a ramdisk for this kernel version
[10:05] <Fibbs> if i invoke the command manually, i get: /usr/sbin/mkinitramfs: unrecognized option `--supported-host-version=2.6.17-10-generic'
[10:05] <levander> I wish there was some way KTorrent would tell me if I'm available to download from or not...
[10:05] <Fibbs> any ideas?
[10:06] <fdoving> Fibbs: is this feisty?
[10:06] <intelikey> Fibbs try dropping the = and using a space ?
[10:07] <Fibbs> intelikey: edgy
[10:07] <levander> the man page does say he's supposed to have a space
[10:07] <cloakable> levander: It happens to me all the time.
[10:07] <Fibbs> same problem with spaces
[10:08] <levander> cloakable: okay, maybe it's nothing to worry about
[10:08] <Fibbs> and the manpage DOES tell me to use the "="
[10:08] <levander> Fibbs: the man page has an alternate "hversion" argument you can pass
[10:08] <levander> Fibbs: nevermind, i misread
[10:08] <Fibbs> levander: it has not
[10:09] <levander> Fibbs: put a space after the equals?  that might be what that man page is saying
[10:09] <levander> Fibbs: try it, but i saw something else that makes me think it's not right
[10:10] <intelikey> well at any rate fibbs,  why not use that simplest string  "mkinitramfs -o /boot/initramfs.img-2.6.17-10-generic 2.6.17-10-generic "
[10:11] <levander> Fibbs: what kernel are you running now?
[10:11] <Fibbs> levander: 2.6.17-10-generic
[10:12] <levander> Fibbs: try just taking the --supported-host-version option out...
[10:12] <Fibbs> intelikey: i am not trying to invoke the command manually, but dpkg-reconfigure on linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic fails because of this
[10:12] <Fibbs> levander: So i will have to remaster the deb-file for the kernel image? This can't be the solution...
[10:13] <Fibbs> levander: I think i have a broken mkinitramfs on my system
[10:13] <sedat> how can I resize an avi file
[10:13] <levander> Fibbs: I just ran the command here, got the same thing you got
[10:13] <intelikey> Fibbs yes i see that.   you were obviously playing around in /etc/lib/dpkg/info/*.postinst   so test it.   you can duplicate the line and comment out one then edit the other.
[10:13] <sedat> I just want to shrink it from 348MB  to 340MB without re encoding
[10:13] <levander> Fibbs: I think the man page is out of synch with the binary, just type "mkinitramfs" to see the compiled in help message.
[10:14] <Fibbs> levander: yes there is no such option anymore
[10:14] <Fibbs> so the problem is in the actual kernel image package?
[10:15] <Fibbs> i can't imagine that, so nobody would be able to install/upgrade a kernel
[10:15] <levander> well, you could probably get the script to run by hardcoded a true value in that script since you know the answer to your question, in your one specific scenario
[10:15] <Fibbs> Or is my system missing some binaries?
[10:15] <levander> but, I don't know if that accomplishes everything you're trying to accomplish or not
[10:15] <intelikey> Fibbs doesn't sound unresonable to me  this is ubuntu you know.
[10:15] <levander> Fibbs: it's the same mkinitramfs as I have here.
[10:16] <brandon_> how do I run a program as root?
[10:16] <Fibbs> levander: do you have yaird installed?
[10:16] <intelikey> !sudo | brandon_
[10:16] <ubotu> brandon_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:16] <sedat> how can I resize an avi file
[10:17] <levander> Fibbs: just checked, no aird
[10:17] <levander> or yaird either
[10:17] <brandon_> intelikey: you're here!  can you help me put some files on my creative zen:M?
[10:17] <brandon_> gnomad2 isn't recognizing it, nor is amarok
[10:17] <intelikey> brandon_ what's that ?
[10:17] <brandon_> an mp3 player
[10:17] <intelikey> does that answer your Q ?
[10:18] <brandon_> yeah.
[10:18] <fdoving> Fibbs: the manpage for mkinitramfs is wrong. the edgy version does not support those options. (mkinitramfs)
[10:18] <brandon_> intelikey: do you know how to mount usb drives?
[10:18] <intelikey> brandon_ well i really don't know   but it should be as simple as mounting it and coping
[10:18] <intelikey> usb  yeah
[10:18] <brandon_> how can I mount it?
[10:19] <intelikey> sudo mount /dev/sda /mountpoint
[10:19] <intelikey> check the address with lsusb
[10:19] <Fibbs> I accept if mkinitramfs does not anymore support these options, but what i don't understand is why the installation postinst script of the kernel image package is trying to invoke it and why _i_ have problems with it and any other people not
[10:19] <brandon_> intelikey: Bus 002 Device 006: ID 041e:413e Creative Technology, Ltd
[10:20] <fdoving> Fibbs: i'll look into it.
[10:20] <brandon_> what would my mount look like
[10:20] <intelikey> brandon_ likely sdb  or sdb1 depending if it's partitioned or not.
[10:20] <intelikey> brandon_ /media/sdb   or some such.   mount point is an empty dirrectory
[10:20] <Fibbs> fdoving: thanks, i do really not understand this and i am searching for the solution a long time
[10:21] <brandon_> so "sudo mount /dev/sdb /media/usb
[10:21] <brandon_> how do you know the drive is sdb
[10:21] <intelikey> brandon_ try it
[10:21] <intelikey> brandon_  ls /media
[10:21] <intelikey> that will list mountpoints.
[10:21] <brandon_> cdrom  cdrom0  mp3  Smith
[10:22] <brandon_> i created mp3
[10:22] <brandon_> for it
[10:23] <intelikey> brandon_ have any sata or scsi disks ?     or other mounted usb devices ?
[10:23] <brandon_> sata
[10:23] <brandon_> i don't believe i have any other mounted usb devices
[10:24] <intelikey> ok that's probably sda  with partitions being sda1 sda2 sda5   and the like.    so i'd start with   sdb    :)
[10:24] <brandon_> sudo mount /dev/sdb /media/mp3  returns  mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[10:25] <intelikey> that generally means it's not the right device node
[10:25] <intelikey> try sdb1
[10:25] <brandon_> it went through
[10:25] <brandon_> now mount -a?
[10:25] <intelikey> df will tell you also.
[10:26] <intelikey> not -a tho
[10:26] <intelikey> just mount    or   df -h
[10:26] <intelikey> should show you what you have mounted.
[10:26] <brandon_> it mounted my sata2 disk
[10:27] <brandon_> i need to mount the usb disk
[10:27] <intelikey> umount it and try sdc
[10:27] <brandon_> umount /dev/sdb1?
[10:27] <intelikey> or the mountpoint
[10:27] <intelikey> sudo umount /media/mp3
[10:28] <Tuju> fscking fsck fsck fedora #"%!@!%&/
[10:28] <Tuju> how i install kubuntu?
[10:28] <brandon_> mount:  special device /dev/sdc does not exist
[10:29] <Tuju> http://ftp.estpak.ee/pub/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/edgy/ there is no flash memory image
[10:29] <Tuju> can't i boot the installation from a flash?
[10:29] <intelikey> !alternate install
[10:29] <intelikey> !install
[10:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[10:30] <Tuju> mmmm
[10:30] <brandon_> intelikey: can i mount from the usb location
[10:30] <intelikey> brandon_ yeah i think so   you mean /proc/usb/*   ?
[10:30] <brandon_> yeah
[10:30] <intelikey> or /dev/usb/bus/* ?
[10:31] <brandon_> i'm not sure
[10:31] <intelikey> heh it would help me help you if i actually had something usb....    lol
[10:31] <Tuju> eh - i don't need 'ubiqite issues'
[10:32] <intelikey>  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation  ^^^
[10:32] <intelikey> !alternatecd
[10:32] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[10:32] <mvst> hey can anyone help me with a soundcard problem?
[10:32] <Tuju> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[10:32] <brandon_> yeah i'm not sure how to do this
[10:33] <brandon_> mount: special device /dev/usb/bus/usb02 does not exist
[10:33] <intelikey> use the tab key on that.  you probably don't mount the bus but a device on the bus
[10:33] <intelikey> :)
[10:33] <Tuju> is it really so that there are no readymade flash images?
[10:34] <Fibbs> fdoving: i think the postinst script _should_ invoke mkinitramfs-kpkg instead of mkinitramfs, but it does not so in my case, mkinitramfs-kpkg exists on my system
[10:34] <mvst> usb devives could be mounted on /dev/sdaX the x is the device bnumber
[10:34] <Fibbs> fdoving: but my perl is not so good at all
[10:34] <mvst> devices
[10:34] <Tuju> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick there is ten A4 instructions how to make one.
[10:34] <mildner__> hi
[10:34] <intelikey> mvst may not be sd"A"   seeing that there are sata disks also.
[10:34] <mildner__> anybody familiar with dvb-t
[10:35] <brandon_> how do i know which usbdev each device belongs to?
[10:35] <intelikey> mvst also may not be partitioned ?
[10:35] <Tuju> looks like ubuntu is still in cave and i don't have time for such
[10:35] <fdoving> Fibbs: hmm.. ok. anyway.. dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic works here. must be something wrong with your setup somehow.
[10:35] <Fibbs> fdoving: yes it is, but i have no further idea what
[10:37] <brandon_> inteli?
[10:37] <mvst> lol i once mounted my usb drive through sda1 thats all i was saying
[10:37] <intelikey> brandon_ i'd probably check /proc/partitions  and try mounting everything in /dev/sd*  that wasn't a known sata.   i.e.  exclude sdb  you know what it is already.
[10:37] <mildner__> anybody familiar with DVB-T  Digital Television stick
[10:37] <fdoving> Fibbs: if perl doesn't work well the postinst script won't behave as it should. i think that is perl for kernels.
[10:37] <intelikey> brandon_ start low and work your way up.   sdc sdc1 sdd sdd1   and so forth.
[10:37] <Fibbs> fdoving: i didn't understand this...
[10:37] <brandon_> nothing is listed that would be this drive
[10:37] <brandon_> I think it is partitioned as the only item listed with df is a 10mb drive
[10:38] <brandon_> which i believe is why it is listed as camera
[10:38] <intelikey> if fd lists it it's mounted....
[10:38] <brandon_> .. /proc/bus/usb
[10:39] <intelikey>  /dev/root             4.2G  2.6G  1.6G  63% /  <<< first thing is the device  then size last is mountpoint.
[10:39] <intelikey> that's from df -h   ^
[10:40] <brandon_> even a tool designed for it does not open it
[10:40] <Fibbs> fdoving: apt-get install linux-image-generic gives me the following: Failed to find suitable ramdisk generation tool for kernel version 2.6.17-10-generic on running kernel 2.6.17-10-generic in /usr/sbin/mkinitramfs, this tells me that the postinst script _is_ invoking the mkinitramfs tool, which does _not_ support the given parameters, as we found out. mkinitramfs-kpkg would accept them, but is not called
[10:40] <Fibbs> .
[10:41] <brandon_> sudo gnomad2 returns no jukeboxes found on USB bus
[10:41] <Fibbs> i think i will manually rewrite mkinitramfs to return true when one of the failing parameters are is given
[10:42] <brandon_> because the camera:/ directory is there when the device is plugged in
[10:42] <intelikey> Fibbs easier to temp move it and link mkinitramfs-kpkg mkinitramfs
[10:43] <brandon_> this location... camera://Creative Zen Vision@[usb:002,005] /
[10:43] <intelikey> so the install script uses a tool that works  them unlink and move it back.
[10:43] <Fibbs> intelikey: umm nice idea, you're right
[10:44] <intelikey> actually the easy way would be edit the postinst script.
[10:44] <brandon_> writing to camera is not supported
[10:44] <brandon_> i hate devices
[10:44] <brandon_> so out of the way
[10:45] <intelikey> brandon_ yeah you'll probably need root permissions there   kdesu konqueror     maybe.
[10:45] <fdoving> Fibbs: try to get the mkinitramfs tool for feisty. http://packages.ubuntu.com
[10:45] <brandon_> again same error
[10:46] <intelikey> brandon_ is it listed in    mount    ?
[10:46] <brandon_> check with df?
[10:46] <intelikey> no mount
[10:47] <brandon_> i can't tell...  http://pastebin.ca/292725
[10:47] <brandon_> the camera should be, idk why it's listed as camera though, it's an mp3 player/ video player/ picture viewer
[10:48] <intelikey> not listed in that paste.
[10:48] <brandon_> procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)   is my closest guess
[10:48] <brandon_> okay it's not
[10:48] <intelikey> paste the output of    df-h
[10:48] <intelikey> paste the output of    df -h
[10:48] <intelikey> with the space.
[10:49] <brandon_> http://pastebin.ca/292728
[10:49] <matahari> hi
[10:49] <matahari> i have problems with kwlan
[10:49] <matahari> it works fine with my wired ethernet connection
[10:50] <matahari> but it won'twork with my wireless network
[10:50] <intelikey> not listed there either.
[10:50] <matahari> i use a netgear wgt511t pcmcia card
[10:50] <mats> a quick question, why is my pictures so unscarp?
[10:50] <matahari> and this card is atheros based
[10:50] <intelikey> brandon_ you did try       sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/mp3       ?
[10:50] <brandon_> yes
[10:51] <intelikey> it errored ?
[10:51] <brandon_> mount point does not exist
[10:51] <intelikey> k
[10:51] <matahari> Trying to associate with 00:14:6c:24:da:92 (SSID='Home' freq=2437 MHz)
[10:51] <matahari> ioctl[IEEE80211_IOCTL_SETMLME] : Invalid argument
[10:51] <matahari> Association request to the driver failed
[10:51] <matahari> Associated with 00:14:6c:24:da:92
[10:51] <brandon_> is there anything i can do to get it working with gnomad2
[10:51] <intelikey> you do see the error you posted.    <brandon_> mount point does not exist
[10:51] <matahari> this is the output of wpa_supplicant
[10:51] <brandon_> that seems the simplest route
[10:51] <brandon_> yes i do
[10:51] <matahari> i get an ip adress and everything
[10:52] <brandon_> but i don't know what other mount point to try
[10:52] <matahari> but dns lookup etc. fails
[10:52] <intelikey> sudo mkdir /media/mp3
[10:52] <brandon_> oh i mean mount special device
[10:52] <matahari> it says always "network is unreachable"
[10:52] <brandon_> is what i meant to say
[10:52] <matahari> any ideas?
[10:53] <brandon_> intelikey: i typed it wrong
[10:53] <intelikey> brandon_ same error for       sdc   sdd   sdd1    ?
[10:53] <brandon_> yes
[10:54] <brandon_> is there anything i can do to get gnomad2 to recognize it?
[10:54] <brandon_> that seems the simplest route
[10:54] <brandon_> as it is a program that supports the device
[10:54] <brandon_> but is simply not seeing it on the usb hub
[10:54] <intelikey> brandon_ simple if the device is accessable    but if the device is not accessable the gui is no better at reaching things than the cli.
[10:55] <brandon_> true
[10:55] <intelikey> umplug  and replug it. ?
[10:55] <intelikey> usb is sometimes funny that way...
[10:56] <brandon_> okay, and now df?
[10:56] <intelikey> no try your  gnomad2
[10:56] <brandon_> nope
[10:58] <intelikey> lets take a shot in the dark here    sudo fdisk -l       see if that lists anything besides your two sata disks.
[10:59] <brandon_> sda1 2 and 5
[10:59] <mats> Any one who know why my webbrowser and pictures get tiny-tiny blurr.. is it my xorg setup i have to fix? When the menu and everyting else is fine
[10:59] <intelikey> matahari i wasn't ignoring you.   i simply know nothing about networking.
[10:59] <brandon_> i don't believe it's listed here
[10:59] <matahari> anyone here who knows?
[10:59] <matahari> or any suggestions for another irc chan?
[11:00] <intelikey> fdoving probably.
[11:00] <mats> i would recomending /msg fdoving and he will help you..
[11:01] <fdoving> matahari: what was the question?
[11:01] <matahari> kwlan seems not to work correctly
[11:01] <matahari> due to the fact that kwlan is a gui for wpasupplicant - wpasupplicant doesn't work correctly
[11:01] <brandon_> why does microsoft have to screw over every single device
[11:01] <brandon_> on earth
[11:02] <intelikey> brandon_ then i'll have to return to my first answer.      "what's that? "       sorry we didn't knock a hommer that time.   ya know babe ruth struck out more than he hommered....   :)
[11:02] <matahari> it connects to the wireless network, but it says at a ping: "network is unreachable"
[11:02] <fdoving> matahari: does the device have an IP?
[11:02] <matahari> yes
[11:02] <intelikey> i gotta run.   have fun if ya can.  and good luck to your pinguin.
[11:03] <fdoving> matahari: is it set static or by dhcp?
[11:03] <brandon_> right but i can't code a driver myself
[11:03] <matahari> dhcp
[11:03] <brandon_> i wouldn't now where to start
[11:03] <brandon_> or how to crack this microsoft bypass crap
[11:03] <fdoving> matahari: ok, when you got an ip, you also got an default route. can you ping it?
[11:04] <matahari> no
[11:04] <matahari> it says: "network is unreachable"
[11:04] <cloakable> So no ip
[11:04] <fdoving> matahari: ok. but you did get an default route right? you don't have any other devices connected to the same network?
[11:04] <matahari> yes
[11:04] <cplusplus> is it possible to create a 10mb fat32 image file with dd? how big sould be the cluster size?
[11:06] <fdoving> matahari: what device? can you for example get the device to work with knetworkmanager?
[11:07] <matahari> yes
[11:07] <matahari> device ath0
[11:07] <matahari> but knetworkmanager won't work with my university network - thats why i want to use kwlan/wpasupplicant
[11:08] <fdoving> matahari: ok, i haven't tried kwlan myself. not sure how it works.. i do however use wpasupplicant.
[11:08] <matahari> fdoving: which chipset are you using?
[11:08] <fdoving> bcm43xx
[11:09] <fdoving> cplusplus: yes, dd if=/dev/zero of=fatfile.img bs=1M count=10
[11:09] <cplusplus> what is bs?
[11:09] <cplusplus> but i read: Note: FAT32 really does have a minimum size: it is only supported for partitions 512 MB or larger
[11:11] <matahari> fdoving: i get the follwing error in wpasupplicant:
[11:11] <matahari> ioctl[IEEE80211_IOCTL_SETMLME] : Invalid argument
[11:11] <matahari> Association request to the driver failed
[11:11] <matahari> what could that mean?
[11:12] <fdoving> cplusplus: i got a 10MB imagefile to work just fine here.. you can however consider using fat16 instead.
[11:12] <fdoving> matahari: hmm..
[11:12] <fdoving> matahari: what is the wlan card name and number?
[11:12] <matahari> netgear wgt511T
[11:12] <matahari> ath0
[11:14] <cplusplus> fdoving: is there a difference to: dd if=/dev/zero of=fatfile.img count=10000 ?
[11:16] <fdoving> cplusplus: try 'du -shc fatfile.img' is it 10MB ?
[11:16] <linopil> can nautilus copy bootable data Cd?
[11:16] <linopil> genii pls
[11:16] <fdoving> linopil: you might get better help in #ubuntu on question about nautilus.
[11:16] <linopil> what languages do you speak genii ?
[11:17] <linopil> ok
[11:17] <genii> Hi linopil :) I speak english. I understand some german and some french, but not enough to converse
[11:17] <mats> .ca is canada? isnt it? ;)
[11:17] <matahari> it sucks, that the madwifi-ng dirvers are included in the linux-restricted-modules package
[11:17] <genii> yes ca is canada :)
[11:17] <matahari> i want to compile it myself and have to remove the whole package??
[11:18] <linopil> OK genii . thought BG or RU
[11:18] <genii> linopil No, I remember you asked me before because of the name :)
[11:19] <matahari> ok, guys
[11:19] <matahari> i have to go to bed
[11:19] <matahari> cu
[11:20] <genii> Well, must leave for work :) Have fun all
[11:26] <linopil> and any commandline copy Cd solution ?
[11:27] <Omnifrog> i found a possible fix for the "the process for the file protocol died unexpectedly" problem on one of my boxen
[11:27] <Kryczek> hi guys! sorry to bother you, but Adept crashes with a segfault
[11:27] <Kryczek> and so does apt-get, as a matter of fact
[11:28] <Kryczek> root@keflavik /tmp # apt-get install indent
[11:28] <Kryczek> Reading package lists... Done
[11:28] <Kryczek> Segmentation faulty tree... 85%
[11:28] <Kryczek> any idea of how to fix this?
[11:28] <Kryczek> I thought of updating the apt packages, but, heh.. can't :)
[11:28] <braden__> hi there, Im totally new to kubuntu. My brother is logged in on another session, and I cant access external drives that have been mounted. it tells me it cannot enter the directory /media/sdb3
[11:29] <TheGateKeeper> linopil, you want to burn cd's from the cli?
[11:29] <braden__> any ideas on how i can copy some stuff of of this drive?
[11:34] <pm2> Is there a way to make my iPod automount in the latest version of Kubuntu?
[11:39] <fdoving> Kryczek: you can try 'sudo apt-get clean' does that segfault too?
[11:40] <pwn4tt4ck> where is the just chat channel?
[11:41] <Kryczek> fdoving: doesnt segfault, but doesn't solve the problem :|
[11:42] <fdoving> Kryczek: can you do a 'strace -o apt.out apt-get update'
[11:42] <fdoving> Kryczek: and post the output of the resulting apt.out file to http://rafb.net/paste ?
[11:43] <magicbronson> trying to get wireless working. anyone know why i'm not getting dhcp offers?
[11:45] <Kryczek> fdoving: I did strace it before asking here actually
[11:45] <Kryczek> and it crashes after looping for a long long time in doing lots of gettimeofday()
[11:45] <Kryczek> like that: gettimeofday({1167172904, 282684}, NULL) = 0
[11:45] <Kryczek> with random values
[11:45] <Kryczek> for about 30 seconds, then crashes
[11:50] <Kryczek> fdoving: fixed :)
[11:50] <Kryczek> just noticed that Automatix had somehow managed to append stuff at the end of /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:51] <Kryczek> even thought I haven't run Automatix in months
[11:51] <Kryczek> there was an update for it the other day though... apparently it took the liberty of modifying the file without asking
[11:52] <fdoving> !automatix
[11:52] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[11:52] <fdoving> Kryczek: automatix is evil.
[11:52] <Dr_willis> :)
[11:52] <fdoving> .. and that explains alot.
[11:52] <Kryczek> :)
[11:53] <Kryczek> well it's useful when you want to quickly setup a Kubuntu box without wondering if you forgot something like Flash or the JRE
[11:53] <pwn4tt4ck> whats todays date?
[11:53] <pwn4tt4ck> oh shit
[11:53] <pwn4tt4ck> tis the 26th
[11:53] <pwn4tt4ck> hahaha
[11:53] <Kryczek> but it's definitely not reliable or trustworthy
[11:55] <Dr_willis> You may want to check out that LinuxMint project. :)
[11:56] <Dr_willis> yet another Ubuntu/Kubuntu variant to add to the growing hoards...
[11:56] <simmerz> is smartmontools on the installer livecd?
[12:00] <genii> Anyone got Conexant HSF HCF winmodem drivers compiled under Edgy yet?
[12:06] <LBB> Hi all, I have a hd with a defective superblock, so i did "dumpe2fs /dev/hda3" to find the location of the backup superblocks and tried "e2fsck -f -b block_offset device" with a couple of values for block_offset, but I always get "the superblock could not be read". Any ideas?
[12:06] <pwn4tt4ck> how do I leave? like... whats the command?
[12:06] <genii> OK next question: Anyone know how/has done after a totally automated headless netboot install a chroot /target , reHUP (with sshd)the system so no tftpboot loop, then perform some things like set a sequential username, compile a driver etc etc?
[12:06] <genii> pwn4tt4ck From here it is /part
[12:07] <LBB> hi genii!
[12:07] <genii> LBB Heyas:)
[12:09] <genii> LBB Thinking about the bad superblocks :)