[12:01] <protocol1> repeat
[12:01] <fisheye> is gparted usualy slow, does it take long to check the partitions?
[12:02] <SpacePuppy> fisheye: no
[12:02] <protocol1> PriceChild, could you refresh my memory
[12:02] <magic_ninja> n2diy: hey man wasn't it you who wanted to know the fix?
[12:02] <rosa> now i have 2 versions of xchat here: xchat gnome and xchat irc, but in none of them i find a possibility to change the port number of the irc server
[12:02] <magic_ninja> n2diy: to my major fs prob yesterday?
[12:02] <PriceChild> protocol1, system>preferences>sound Check the correct sound card is selected
[12:02] <berGi> hey,ive been trying to compile pftpfxp-mew and keep getting this error: main.cc:4:20: error: curses.h: No such file or directory
[12:03] <protocol1> yeah did that
[12:03] <berGi> does anyone know how to fix that?
[12:03] <PriceChild> protocol1, have you installed any new hardware?
[12:03] <mwe> rosa: server:XXXX, XXXX being the port IIRC
[12:03] <fisheye> its been at it for 2 minutes
[12:03] <protocol1> nope
[12:03] <fisheye> crap
[12:03] <kitche> berGi: try installing libncurse-dev
[12:03] <fisheye> theres something wrong with my partitions, it has to be
[12:03] <theflyingfool> has anyone tried fiesty yet?
[12:04] <berGi> k thanks for that hint
[12:04] <mwe> !info libncurses5-dev
[12:04] <ubotu> libncurses5-dev: Developer's libraries and docs for ncurses. In component main, is optional. Version 5.5-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1330 kB, installed size 5968 kB
[12:04] <haxality> hello, I want to assign hotkeys to launch some of my common programs.
[12:04] <haxality> how would I do this in gnome?
[12:05] <fisheye> it's oficial, something is worng with my partition, were should i check for bobos
[12:05] <protocol1> PriceChild, Is there something I can do to reset my settings to the way they were originally right after install?
[12:05] <iustin85> does anybody know the command for copying a folder (not a file) ?
[12:05] <mwe> fisheye: is something wrong with your partition or the file system on it?
[12:05] <rosa> mwe: now i wrote the port number behind the server an get "server not found, maybe you worte it wrong"
[12:06] <mwe> iustin85: cp -r or cp -a
[12:06] <iustin85> thank you, mwe
[12:06] <LorenXo> iustin85 use cp -r
[12:06] <PriceChild> protocol1, rm -rf ~/.beryl
[12:06] <PriceChild> protocol1, then restart bery
[12:06] <PriceChild> l
[12:06] <hardaway> how do you get openoffice 2.1 to run on edgy
[12:06] <berGi> libncurses5-dev was need, ther errorcode got shorter
[12:06] <berGi> still an error is this: server.cc: In member function void CServer::SortFilelist(bool, bool):
[12:06] <berGi> any suggestions?
[12:07] <Pyretic> hey people, does anyone else have the gnome menu showing scrollbars when it's not needed ?
[12:07] <Eldanen> How do you un-link a folder?
[12:07] <fisheye> mwe: have no ideia. All i know is it freezes during the boot "cheking file systems" and gparted wont open right
[12:07] <Eldanen> ln what?
[12:08] <cafuego_> berGi: maybe check the c++ help channel
[12:08] <PriceChild> Eldanen, afaik... just delete the "link" as though it were a folder/file
[12:09] <theflyingfool> has anyone built there own install disc for edgy?
[12:09] <infidel> anyone know how i can tell where my ir port is linked to in /dev
[12:09] <Eldanen> PriceChild, and that would be how? :P
[12:09] <berGi> k thanks
[12:09] <PriceChild> rm
[12:09] <PriceChild> Eldanen, ^
[12:09] <kitche> theflyingfool: not really but you can make a DFS/UFS cd
[12:09] <Eldanen> PriceChild, ???
[12:09] <theflyingfool> dfs? ufs?
[12:09] <PriceChild> Eldanen, "man rm"
[12:10] <Eldanen> What if the link is a folder?
[12:10] <fisheye> who do i go about checking my partiction, or partition list or whatever for mistakes
[12:10] <kitche> theflyingfool: debian from scratch/ubuntu from scratch
[12:10] <Eldanen> You accidentally linked a needed folder to something else :>.
[12:10] <wyld> what does the "dev/dhb1 has been mounted 30 times without being checked, check forced" mean, is it normal, is there a way to cancel it (would it be a good idea?), is there a way to get the message not to show up?
[12:10] <LorenXo> it is normal
[12:11] <kitche> wyld: that is normal
[12:11] <wyld> ok
[12:11] <wyld> thanks
[12:11] <bruenig> wyld, you mean it flashes across the screen everytime you boot?
[12:11] <wyld> not every time
[12:11] <bruenig> oh
[12:11] <wyld> only about once every 2 weeks
[12:11] <TSCHAK> arrgggg, I can't remove wpasupplicant:
[12:11] <bruenig> it does it everytime I boot, flashes across then screen, then doesn't do anything
[12:11] <TSCHAK> Removing wpasupplicant ...
[12:11] <TSCHAK> dpkg: error processing wpasupplicant (--remove):
[12:11] <TSCHAK>  subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 10
[12:11] <TSCHAK> Errors were encountered while processing:
[12:11] <TSCHAK>  wpasupplicant
[12:11] <bruenig> very odd
[12:11] <TSCHAK> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[12:11] <protocol1> also when I do a logout and try to log back in it halts?
[12:11] <fisheye> juano: i got gparted, but it also freezes while checking for partitions
[12:12] <protocol1> the only way I could have it boot properly is when I do a restart?
[12:12] <wyld> *: thanks
[12:12] <protocol1> could that be part of my sound problem?
[12:13] <protocol1> any suggestions?
[12:13] <iustin85> please, how can i give a 777 permission to a folder ? ?
[12:14] <zch`> chmod 777 foldername?
[12:14] <iustin85> ty
[12:14] <hoelk> sudo chmod 777 foldername
[12:14] <theflyingfool> is it possible to get a list of everything i have installed, and then on a clean install have the system get all of that for me?
[12:14] <mwe> iustin85: don't go about doing that everywhere, though
[12:14] <rosa> ?
[12:15] <fisheye> well , ill rebot and try again
[12:15] <fisheye> se ya
[12:15] <zch`> could someone help me out with routing problem, ill go into more detail if someone cba to help me out
[12:15] <cafuego_> theflyingfool: yes. Very easily. 'dpkg --get-selections > list.txt'
[12:15] <protocol1> I think I should stick with dapper
[12:15] <cafuego_> theflyingfool: Back up list.txt. On the new system, 'sudo dpkg --set-selections < list.txt && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade'
[12:16] <iustin85> mwe, i just need 777 to a folder for php
[12:16] <cafuego_> theflyingfool: You'll also want to keep a copy of /etc
[12:16] <theflyingfool> why would i keep the copy of etc?
[12:16] <cafuego_> theflyingfool: config files
[12:16] <mwe> iustin85: well that's probably ok then
[12:17] <cafuego_> theflyingfool: don't put it back on the new system, but if you say don't want to be asked about ssh keys - I tend to put the old /etc/ssh back.
[12:17] <theflyingfool> what are ssh keys?
[12:17] <cafuego_> ok, maybe don't bother
[12:18] <jhasse> Why can't i surf in the internet while downloading something? It takes hours to view a website. But the download is fast all the time.
[12:18] <protocol1> would installing aoss having anything to do with messing with my sound?
[12:18] <theflyingfool> thanks
[12:19] <rosa> maybe, somebody can help me with another prob: i tried to use gaim to chat before and got on my bnc, but i wasn't able to write anything, because it didn't sent
[12:19] <LinTux> I have a machine here that I need to remove the KDE desktop from through terminal, what is the command to use
[12:19] <enyc> Hrrrm
[12:19] <kitche> LinTux: sudo apt-get --purge remove kde should just remove kde
[12:19] <protocol1> Im just going to uninstall alsa-base
[12:20] <protocol1> and reinstall it to see if that fixes it
[12:20] <enyc> ?does anybohy know anything about the console-behavior in edgy -- like caps/numlock not working and caplock actiny like shift in that will activate symbols etc. ?
[12:20] <kitche> rosa: gaim is not really meant to be used as an irc client so some things won't work right with it
[12:21] <LinTux> Kitche, cheers m8, that worked fine, meery xmas
[12:21] <rosa> so i'm back to my problem with xchat, that i cannot change the server port number
[12:22] <MenZa> Does anyone here know of a terminal irc client, which has support for a channel/server tree on the left, user tree on the right and messages in the center?
[12:23] <kitche> rosa: how are you trying to change the port number? by typing /server <server>:<port> or you doing it though it's connection dialog
[12:23] <TheGateKeeper> rosa, xchat --> network list --> freenode --> edit --> edit irc.freenode.net/8001
[12:24] <mwe> rosa: actually I think the delimiter should be / instead of :
[12:24] <rosa> delimiter / is right, thanks for helping
[12:25] <odat> hi everyone
[12:25] <odat> anyone have the compositor working?
[12:26] <wastrel> hi i need to do stuff and it's not working
[12:26] <kitche> Menodat: compositor in what?
[12:26] <odat> window composite
[12:26] <wyld> I have a yamaha dx-sg (?) sound card, and the volume fluctuates very much, and it is annoying. It does not do this in windows, only in linux. any ideas?
[12:26] <zch`> anyone cares to help me out with my routing problem? im running pvpgn server on ubuntu box for couple of friends, they can connect and play just fine, but i am unable to create any games, and when i join a game i often cant see others typing, and there is terrible lag involved, i've read about that issue on pvpgn forums, and it appears to be problem with port forwarding (my linux box also serves as a router for my windows box) i found this script which should su
[12:26] <odat> and or the transparency and shadowing
[12:26] <Hmg4> Using rsync to sync my Windows and Linux filetree causes some files to get strange filenames in Windows when using chars like  in filename, help?
[12:26] <kitche> Menodat/odat
[12:26] <LinTux_> I have a load of files, 254 in fact in my wastebin I cannot seem to delete and I cannot change the permissions on them, any ideas?
[12:27] <Zambezi> Isn't there an easy way to download from an FTP with Implicit SSL?
[12:27] <Stormx2> wastrel: Thankyou for that adequate explanation of your problem. Please stand by while we answer your question
[12:27] <kitche> odat: yes but for what metacity/xfwm?
[12:27] <odat> kitche, xfwm
[12:27] <kitche> odat: I have xfwm compositing on
[12:28] <wyld> MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:28] <zch`> anyone, please?
[12:28] <odat> kitche, how did you get it working?
[12:28] <wyld> even you muslims
[12:28] <wyld> and atheists
[12:28] <Stormx2> wyld: Atheists still celebrate christmas.
[12:28] <LinTux>  I have a load of files, 254 in fact in my wastebin I cannot seem to delete and I cannot change the permissions on them, any ideas. They have very strange names and I cannot rename them either?
[12:29] <wyld> I know,
[12:29] <kitche> odat: it should work by default if xfwm has it built in but you have to turn on the composite option in your xorg.conf
[12:29] <wyld> i celebrate it too
[12:29] <odat> I added what they said to add on the xfce home page
[12:29] <odat> still no joy
[12:29] <wyld> but whatever, back to helping the noobs
[12:30] <zch`> me me
[12:30] <kitche> odat: see what /var/log/Xorg.0.log says for composite
[12:31] <richard501> I hear the BCM4318 Broadcom wireless modem has been cracked and is on Feisty daily release - im having problems installin it though
[12:31] <magic_ninja> anyone try the latest version of cedega
[12:31] <infidel> kitche: can you help me get my irda setup formy palm tx?
[12:32] <odat> kitche,  i don't see anything for it
[12:33] <stevr1it> i cannot have voipstunt working with ekiga
[12:33] <fushidamn> hi peoples
[12:33] <cmweb> !mp3
[12:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:33] <phantomcircuit> Im looking to convert videos in a wide range of formats to wmv from the command line, what should I use?
[12:33] <kitche> odat: ok you can dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to make sure that the composite extension is enabled
[12:34] <jpjacobs> phantomcircuit, i guess transcode, or some arcane mplayer pipe thing
[12:34] <stevr1it> any help for me?
[12:34] <apokryphos> !helpme
[12:34] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:34] <cmweb> how do i get audio onto my mp3 player?
[12:34] <odat> kitche, where in the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is the composite extension?
[12:34] <phantomcircuit> jpjacobs: :P
[12:34] <stevr1it> i already have, who can help me with ekihga to work woth voipstunt?
[12:34] <cmweb> (yeah its new
[12:35] <kitche> odat: should be where you enable glx extension and hte others
[12:35] <jpjacobs> cmweb, depends on the mpplayer. if it acts like a diskdrive it will just be mounted like any external HD drive
[12:35] <wastrel> happy xmas 2 u
[12:36] <theflyingfool> are there any programs like wine that are better or more user friendly?
[12:36] <jpjacobs> stevr1it, at my other pc it just worked (while being behind a rather restrictive firewall at the uni)
[12:36] <cmweb> jpjacobs: how do i get stuff into mp3 format then? i know the default is ogg
[12:36] <stevr1it> anybody knows ekiga and voipstunt?
[12:36] <odat> kitche, its not
[12:36] <stevr1it> ok tell me how
[12:36] <cafuego_> theflyingfool: windows maybe - depending on your definitions of 'better' and 'user friendly' ;-)
[12:36] <jpjacobs> cmweb, there are a lot of free mp3 encoders around
[12:36] <rogue780> off topic...please ignore if offended by off topic...can any download anything from itunes at this time?
[12:37] <cafuego_> phantomcircuit: ffmpeg is your friend
[12:37] <fisheye> hi again
[12:37] <stevr1it> jpjacob can yo help me to configure it?
[12:37] <juano> fisheye: sorry.. i was afk
[12:37] <fisheye> i had an ideia, see if it makes sense
[12:37] <apokryphos> !offtopic | rogue780
[12:37] <ubotu> rogue780: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:37] <vox754> !forums > me
[12:37] <theflyingfool> for better i just want a larger list of supported programs, and as for more userfriendly it doesnt really matter
[12:37] <fisheye> can i erase all infi in fstab reagarding all partitions exept root , and then reboot??
[12:37] <juano> fisheye: any luck solving the problem,>
[12:38] <cafuego_> theflyingfool: the best way to make that happen is to help the wine developers
[12:38] <juano> fisheye: i wouldnt recomend that
[12:38] <jpjacobs> cmweb, try apt-cache search encoder|grep mp3
[12:38] <fisheye> no, but what do you think of my ideia?
[12:38] <fisheye> hmmm
[12:38] <fisheye> why?
[12:38] <cmweb> why is it that i never check synaptic
[12:38] <zetsumei> ok i got a major problem w/my digital camera :(
 i connect it via a usb port and it pops up asking if i want to import pictures from it
 i say yes and i get this error "An error occurred in the io-library ('Could not claim the USB device'): Could not claim interface 0 (Operation not permitted). Make sure no other program or kernel module (such as sdc2xx, stv680, spca50x) is using the device and you have read/write access to the device."
[12:38] <cmweb> jpjacobs: i fonund tools for the player and encoder
[12:38] <theflyingfool> are there any other wine like programs, that i could try
[12:38] <fisheye> juano : crap, i tought i really had something going here
[12:38] <Frederick> folks anyone her eusing a laptop with german kb? I cant manager the smaller and bigger signs to work
[12:38] <jpjacobs> !paste|zetsumei
[12:38] <ubotu> zetsumei: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:39] <Frederick> on a acer travelmate 800
[12:39] <stevr1it> jpjacobs: can you help me^
[12:39] <juano> maybe you can google that fisheye
[12:39] <cafuego_> theflyingfool: there are commercial forks like cedega and crossover office
[12:39] <zetsumei> oh sorry
[12:39] <MasterLexx> yes
[12:39] <jpjacobs> stevr1it, sorry, i don't have that pc here at home. and i really don't know much about the voip stuff
[12:39] <MasterLexx> fisheye,
[12:39] <zetsumei> i just need help, ubuntuforums has no topic related to this problem
[12:39] <juano> fisheye: im gonna keep lookin myself
[12:39] <fisheye> yes masterlexx
[12:39] <MasterLexx> what's the prob with uppercase letters?
[12:40] <MasterLexx> smaller and bigger signs?
[12:40] <fisheye> juano: please, no need to  bother
[12:40] <zetsumei> no one can help me fix my camera?
[12:40] <oenwaytolive17> heya
[12:40] <MasterLexx> you mean the third key on a button?
[12:40] <stevr1it> anyone know ekiga working with voipstunt?
[12:40] <juano> zetsumei: hi there
[12:40] <infidel> can some one help me setup irda for my palm tx
[12:40] <Slart> Is there a way I can tweak my ubuntu system so it doesn't slow to a crawl when I'm moving/copying files between my SATA hard drives.. as it is now, it's barely usable because of lagging.. gnome not updating etc
[12:40] <juano> zetsumei:  what seems to be the problem with cam?
[12:41] <nolimitsoya> Slart, what filesystems? ntfs writing through fuse is slow...
[12:41] <tsukoharu> can someone help me with ndiswrapper
[12:41] <fisheye> what would be so bad about erasing fstab info on the other partitions?
[12:41] <Slart> nolimitsoya: at the moment, ext3 to reiserfs
[12:41] <MasterLexx> okay,... so not
[12:41] <mwe> !ntfs-3g
[12:41] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[12:41] <zch`> anyone cares to help me out with my routing problem? im running pvpgn server on ubuntu box for couple of friends, they can connect and play just fine, but i am unable to create any games, and when i join a game i often cant see others typing, and there is terrible lag involved, i've read about that issue on pvpgn forums, and it appears to be problem with port forwarding (my linux box also serves as a router for my windows box) i found this script which should su
[12:41] <mwe> ntfs-3g is faster than windows native
[12:41] <Slart> nolimitsoya: I don't think I'm doing anything strange.. but still.. it's horribly slow
[12:41] <tsukoharu> i need to convert a windows driver for a ethernet laptop card to linux compatible :P
[12:42] <Slart> nolimitsoya: and I don't care to much about the speeds.. I just want a responsive system
[12:42] <kitche> tsukoharu: what driver is it for?
[12:42] <tsukoharu> its for a dynex pcmcia card
[12:42] <tsukoharu> because i believe the module for it is nonexistant
[12:43] <Zambezi> Can someone please help me with lftp? I need to access a FTP quick and I can't make it work.
[12:43] <kitche> tsukoharu: hmm know the exact name of the card or the chipset it uses?
[12:43] <nolimitsoya> Slart, have al look at the system monitor, and read the cpu/mem usage
[12:43] <jpjacobs> Zambezi, what's the problem?
[12:43] <tsukoharu> i know the exact name of the card kitche one sec
[12:43] <Zambezi> jpiccolo, Can we take it in PM?
[12:43] <nolimitsoya> Slart, you can use 'top' in a terminal as well
[12:43] <mwe> Zambezi: lftp user@host. then type pw
[12:43] <juano> fisheye: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html check that out
[12:44] <jpjacobs> Zambezi, ok
[12:44] <Slart> nolimitsoya: ok.. now the copying is done.. but I'll do it again.. just to see
[12:44] <Zambezi> mwe, Does it use Implicit SSL then?
[12:44] <mwe> Zambezi: that's for plain ftp
[12:44] <phantomcircuit> doesnt look like mencoder can encod ein wmv
[12:44] <mwe> Zambezi: I don't know about ssl. I'd have to look at 'man lftp'
[12:45] <crazy_bus> For some reason, my GNOME wont let me login in.  I get to the login screen, type in my details, and then it comes up with the usual screen, but it freezes on 'Window Manager' and doesn't load anything else.  Does anyone know anything about this?
[12:45] <Slart> nolimitsoya: 6-7 % per command.. I've got 2 "cp blah blah" commands running.. so total of 14-15%...  and it's hard typing in schat
[12:45] <magic_ninja> for some reason my system is going slow
[12:45] <magic_ninja> the inet is going really slow
[12:45] <Slart> nolimitsoya: *xchat
[12:46] <kitche> !ipv6\
[12:46] <juano> crazy_bus: can you login into safe mode?
[12:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipv6\ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:46] <crazy_bus> no
[12:46] <kitche> !ipv6|magic_ninja try this might speed up your net
[12:46] <ubotu> magic_ninja try this might speed up your net: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[12:46] <crazy_bus> I can't log into failsafe gnome
[12:46] <nolimitsoya> Slart, then your system should be responsive. id it feels slow is because it cant read fron discs that are buzy copying :)
[12:46] <nolimitsoya> *if
[12:47] <Slart> nolimitsoya: although the copying is done at nice 15?
[12:47] <magic_ninja> kitche: so diable in firefox?
[12:47] <kitche> magic_ninja: there and there is a module also that needs disabled
[12:48] <crazy_bus> juano, if I log into failsafe gnome, it freezes on the loading 'Window Manager' part, but it also comes up with a message saying it failed to start gnome setting daemon (or something like that) and themes might not work properly.
[12:48] <magic_ninja> kitche: so i don't need ipv6?
[12:48] <Slart> nolimitsoya: so, I'll have to live with 2 second pauses every now and then (where everything stands still!)??
[12:48] <kitche> magic_ninja: noo only need it if you use it
[12:48] <juano> mmm... crazy_bus
[12:48] <nolimitsoya> Slart, ? your i/o quota is at 100% because of the copying. that means there is going to be somw trouble to takt time out to do the search/read/pipe routine with the menu icons, for example. hence, itll seem slow
[12:48] <juano> crazy_bus: let m check this out a bit
[12:49] <Slart> nolimitsoya: I'm not blaming you here =) but shouldn't the menues etc be in memory already?
[12:49] <phatlip_> hey guys i'm trying to install ubunutu on a powerboook g4, hoever i want to keep my Os X install as well and dual boot
[12:49] <magic_ninja> kitche: ty sir
[12:49] <jmiller565> merry christmas
[12:50] <juano> crazy_bus: try this : dpkg-reconfigure gnome
[12:50] <phatlip_> how can i re-size my os x partition? ubuntu installer seems to want to wipe my entire drive.
[12:50] <nolimitsoya> Slart, depends on what your settings are for caching :)
[12:50] <juano> as root
[12:50] <Slart> nolimitsoya: do SATA drives use DMA or something similar?
[12:50] <Slart> nolimitsoya: how can I check that?
[12:50] <nolimitsoya> Slart, they would most likely be swapped out, since they are rarely used
[12:50] <nolimitsoya> Slart, sata drives dont use dma
[12:51] <nolimitsoya> Slart, /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
[12:51] <nolimitsoya> Slart, 0 means never swap, and 100 means always. default is 60
[12:51] <cafuego_> nolimitsoya: well, they do, but you can't turn it off ;-)
[12:51] <Slart> nolimitsoya: I'll check
[12:51] <nolimitsoya> cafuego_, true :)
[12:52] <odat> hi everyone
[12:52] <Eldanen> How can I add a module to the kernel? (coretemp.ko)
[12:52] <Slart> nolimitsoya: well.. 60 it is..
[12:52] <juano> crazy_bus: if that doesnt work , try this crazy_bus:   1) ctrl + alt + F1, 2) login as root 3) init 3, 4)rm   -rf  $HOME/.gnome % 5) init 5
[12:52] <kitche> Eldanen: modprobe coretemp
[12:52] <nolimitsoya> Slart, lower it, and see if you notice any improvement
[12:52] <Eldanen> kitche: I mean patch the kernel.
[12:52] <odat> I was hoping someone could send me this file   ~/.config/xfce4/mcs_settings/wmtweaks.xml
[12:52] <no_comment> do anyone know why my yoxos eclipse app crashes with an error when i want to start it in ubuntu?
[12:52] <juano> rm   -rf  $HOME/.gnome that would be on step 4
[12:52] <crazy_bus> juano, it says this 'Package 'gnome'  is not installed and no information is availble'
[12:53] <juano> ok, try what i told you just now
[12:53] <kitche> Eldanen: you need patch then you do patch -p0 < patchfile
[12:53] <nolimitsoya> Slart, could also be the fault of the new kernel preempt for edgy... thatll be fixed with a low latency kernel for feisty :)
[12:53] <Eldanen> kitche: What dir?  /usr/src/linux-headers-*-generic?
[12:53] <kitche> Eldanen: the linux source directory not the linux-headers source directory
[12:53] <robineiro> como reparo  firefox, edite el modulo  firefox_dsp:"none"      y puse "esd"
[12:54] <robineiro> y ya no puede iniciar firefox
[12:54] <Curs0r|BAM> ok
[12:54] <Curs0r|BAM> windows be gone
[12:54] <Slart> nolimitsoya: wonderful.. feels like home when coming from windows.. everythings coming in the next release ;)
[12:54] <Eldanen> kitche:  All I have is a headers directory :>.
[12:54] <vox754> !es
[12:54] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:54] <kitche> Eldanen: then you need the linux source package
[12:54] <juano> any luck crazy_bus?
[12:54] <Slart> nolimitsoya: but at least I can get the next version for free.. so I'll live =)
[12:55] <pablo> i`ve instaled Ubuntu, what is the default root password?
[12:55] <Curs0r|BAM> i need some help setting up my internet connection for sharing because i can't afford a router
[12:55] <kitche> !root|pablo there isn't one
[12:55] <ubotu> pablo there isn't one: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:55] <Slart> pablo: you don't use root like that
[12:55] <zch`> there is no default root password you have to set one
[12:55] <Curs0r|BAM> is a dhcp server the easiest awy?
[12:55] <Slart> pablo: not in ubuntu
[12:55] <jpjacobs> pablo, the root account is disabled by default, use sudo <command> instead
[12:55] <juano> pablo go to Slarts url
[12:55] <Slart> mine?
[12:55] <pablo> ubotu: fantabulantastic!! Sudo ask for a password! (it is NOT the user password)
[12:55] <Slart> ubotu's =)
[12:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about s =) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:56] <magic_ninja> still getting really slow web browsing
[12:56] <Slart> pablo: that's your user password
[12:56] <kitche> pablo: actually it is the user password
[12:56] <rogue780> !pastebin
[12:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:57] <pablo> Slart: Ok, then i must benn confused :)
[12:57] <phatlip_> hey guys i'm trying to install ubunutu on a powerboook g4, hoever i want to keep my Os X install as well and dual boot
[12:57] <phatlip_> how can i re-size my os x partition? ubuntu installer seems to want to wipe my entire drive.
[12:57] <Slart> pablo: it's weird at first.. but once you get used to not using the root account.. it's kind of nice
[12:57] <juano> pablo sudo passwd root
[12:57] <juano> Enter your existing password
[12:57] <juano> Enter password for root
[12:57] <juano> Confirm password for root
[12:57] <nolimitsoya> phatlip_, you should be able to resize... did you try it? be sure to have a full backup, though :)
[12:58] <noobuntu> hi everybody and merry christmas, hopefully someone can help me with my WLAN, I have a ipw3954 which works under Edgy but is very slow, I reach at maximum transferrate around 50 kB/s and have no idea where to start to solve the problem, any suggestions?
[12:58] <juano> pablo thats how to activae root acount
[12:58] <crazy_bus> juano, is there any way to exit (ctrl, alt, F1).  Also could you please repeat the instructions you gave me?
[12:58] <magic_ninja> man...i mean i'm getting SLOW web browsing, 56k=faster
[12:58] <juano> crazy_bus: ctrl + alt + F7 (goes back to X interface)
[12:59] <crazy_bus> thank you
[12:59] <kitche> magic_ninja: did you blacklist the ipv6 module also?
[12:59] <juano> crazy_bus: it would be this : 1) ctrl + alt + F1, 2) login as root 3) init 3, 4)rm   -rf  $HOME/.gnome % 5) init 5
[12:59] <crazy_bus> thank you again
[01:00] <magic_ninja> any ideas anyone, ipv6 should be disabled
[01:00] <magic_ninja> i had 2 inet configs in my network settings, eth0 and eth1 but i should only have one connection
[01:00] <kitche> magic_ninja: when you turn off ipv6 in bad_list you gotta reboot for it to take effect
[01:00] <SpacePuppy> lol why is ip6 enabled anyway??
[01:01] <Lord_Nightmare> root@jzgs:/home/jonathan# foomatic-gui
[01:01] <Lord_Nightmare> *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x081781d8 ***
[01:01] <Lord_Nightmare> Unable to read printer database.
[01:01] <Lord_Nightmare> root@jzgs:/home/jonathan#
[01:01] <Lord_Nightmare> anyone have any ideas for how to fix that?
[01:01] <juano> crazy_bus: any luck with that?>
[01:02] <Curs0r|BAM> anyone know how to do that? i can't find a tutorial
[01:02] <mlk> hi
[01:02] <Curs0r|BAM> it's jesus day, not mlk day ;)
[01:02] <SpacePuppy> Lord_Nightmare: really you should explain your hardware, and software before posting that.. we don't have an fin clue
[01:02] <mlk> huh? ;)
[01:02] <Curs0r|BAM> just making a joke about your handle
[01:03] <SpacePuppy> Curs0r|BAM: what;s a mlkday?
[01:03] <Curs0r|BAM> martin luther king
[01:03] <mkaster> can someone help me with my wireless card? when I try to dhclient my card it tries to connect to dhcp server then does dhcp discovery but fails. I have a d-link dwl-g120 card
[01:03] <SpacePuppy> good one
[01:03] <mlk> oh, i see ;)
[01:03] <magic_ninja> hey..i found an absurb problem...
[01:04] <mc__> magic_ninja: funny
[01:04] <magic_ninja> i hooked up my usb cable modem though a usb hub and it added it as another device, therefore both devices were using the same modem as different interfaces...
[01:04] <Curs0r|BAM> internet connection sharing... anyone?
[01:04] <magic_ninja> i disabled interface eth0
[01:05] <Curs0r|BAM> i think it's probably something simple i'd do in /etc/networking/interfaces
[01:05] <crazy_bus> juano, it said synatax error at ').  I think I typed it as you said
[01:05] <juano> mmm sec
[01:05] <Lord_Nightmare> spacepuppy: up-to-date ubuntu install, self-compiled 2.6.15-7 kernel, gcc 4.0.3
[01:06] <Lord_Nightmare> tried to configure printer for the first time since upgrading from debian to ubuntu
[01:06] <seeds> hello
[01:06] <SpacePuppy> Lord_Nightmare: self-compiled.. well, i bet the issue is in ther somewhre.
[01:06] <seeds> please i need some help
[01:06] <SpacePuppy> !ask
[01:06] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:06] <seeds> my ppoe connection is not connecting autoamtically at startup
[01:06] <mlk> i've got a wireless question: installed kubuntu on my notebook.. seems like my minipci card got detected, but how or where are the tools to connect to AP?
[01:06] <juano> crazy_bus:  rm   -rf  $HOME/.gnome
[01:06] <aranzegi> HOLA
[01:07] <vox754> !es
[01:07] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[01:07] <juano> 1st enter ctrl + alt + F1
[01:07] <seeds> me?
[01:07] <bobsdf> there is a command which tells you which process has control of a device anyone know what it is?
[01:07] <aranzegi> thanks!
[01:07] <Lord_Nightmare> SpacePuppy: yeah, the standard binary image kernels don't work at ALL for the opl3sa2 soundcard because isa-pnp-bios is horribly broken on this motherboard
[01:07] <juano> crazy_bus:  2nd login as root
[01:07] <bobsdf> something liks ls***
[01:07] <juano> crazy_bus: 3rd enter this comand : rm   -rf  $HOME/.gnome
[01:07] <SpacePuppy> Lord_Nightmare: works fine on mine
[01:07] <tsukoharu> someone wanna tell me how to format ubuntu
[01:07] <tsukoharu> i wanna get rid of it :P
[01:07] <juano> crazy_bus: before the command entert this command :
[01:07] <juano> init 3
[01:08] <Lord_Nightmare> SpacePuppy: the motherboard is a dell xpsh266 motherboard upgraded to a PII 333
[01:08] <juano> crazy_bus:  then enter:  rm   -rf  $HOME/.gnome
[01:08] <juano> crazy_bus: then enter init 5
[01:08] <Lord_Nightmare> and it uses the last released bios (A03)
[01:08] <SpacePuppy> so?
[01:08] <mlk> onyone running (k)ubuntu with a wireless card? minipci probably?
[01:09] <vox754> SpacePuppy: why did you kicked him. You gave us no time for sarcasms
[01:09] <mkaster> can someone help me with my wireless card? when I try to dhclient my card it tries to connect to dhcp server then does dhcp discovery but fails. I have a d-link dwl-g120 card
[01:09] <Lord_Nightmare> when compiling the kernel from the ubuntu sources with pnp-bios enabled it gives all sorts of weird errors about incorrect pnp bios formatting and stuff, and installing the alsa opl3sa2 soundcard modules fail regardless of whether isapnp=1 or 0
[01:09] <crazy_bus> juano, I did as you said and it came up with no errors.
[01:09] <jmiller565> I need help with installing a nVidia Graphics Driver. I installed  "legacy" and I followed what to do in Ubuntu help but for some reason when I try to enable it, it says i have something wrong with the nvidia kernal. Can someone please help me. BTW i'm using nVidia GeForce FX5200 128MB card
[01:09] <rogue780> can someone tell me where the modprobe.conf file is located?
[01:09] <juano> crazy_bus: it worked??
[01:09] <SpacePuppy> !source > Lord_Nightmare
[01:10] <kitche> jmiller565: hmm why you using legacy with that card?
[01:10] <SpacePuppy> !source
[01:10] <ubotu> You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[01:10] <crazy_bus> Do I have to reboot to test?
[01:10] <SpacePuppy> na.. that aint it
[01:10] <jmiller565> what am i supposed to use then?
[01:10] <SpacePuppy> !kernal
[01:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kernal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:10] <SpacePuppy> !kernel
[01:10] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[01:10] <kitche> jmiller565: legacy is for geforce 1 and down
[01:10] <juano> no, no if you could login X interface with gnome in noral mode then its fixed now crazy_bus
[01:10] <Lord_Nightmare> SpacePuppy: i used the ubuntu-supplied copy of the kernel source
[01:10] <kitche> jmiller565: soon to be geforce 2 also
[01:11] <jmiller565> kitche: what do I use now
[01:11] <SpacePuppy> Lord_Nightmare: really your question are out of context for this chan.
[01:11] <kitche> jmiller565: you should just use the nvidia-glx driver not the legacy one
[01:11] <crazy_bus> For some reason logging out freezes my computer alot of the time, so Im hesatant to do it
[01:11] <jmiller565> Kitche:ok thanx a lot kitche
[01:11] <juano> you could try doing: init 3 in the console as root and then init 5
[01:11] <juano> crazy_bus:
[01:12] <Lord_Nightmare> SpacePuppy: that and alsa are the only core things i have compiled from source, everything else is binaries grabbed using apt-get and/or dselect
[01:12] <juano> crazy_bus: this refreshes X interface
[01:12] <rogue780> can someone tell me where the modprobe.conf file is located?
[01:12] <kyncani> rogue780: man modprobe.conf
[01:13] <kitche> rogue780: /etc
[01:13] <vladi> will the new stable nvidia driver be in the repositories soon?
[01:13] <Lord_Nightmare> SpacePuppy: well what i said about the self-compiled kernel was just explaining the REASON i had compiled the kernel myself
[01:13] <mwe> rogue780: usually /etc/modprobe.d/* is used instead
[01:14] <rogue780> does ubuntu automatically make the modprobe.conf file? 'cause it ain't there
[01:14] <crazy_bus> I reboot, and try and log into gnome now.
[01:14] <vladi> http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html shows version 1.0-9746 is the latest stable version
[01:14] <mwe> rogue780: usually /etc/modprobe.d/* is used instead
[01:14] <juano> crazy_bus: ok
[01:14] <rogue780> mwe: roger
[01:14] <kitche> vladi: it won't unless there is a security reason for the new driver
[01:14] <kitche> !nvidia9|vladi
[01:14] <ubotu> vladi: For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9746 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable
[01:14] <mwe> rogue780: I think modprobe.conf will be used as well if you create it though
[01:15] <vladi> awesome cheers
[01:15] <mwe> rogue780: what do you need to do?
[01:15] <rogue780> I am trying to set Lirc up
[01:15] <pchapman> is it possible to use a new ipod from ubuntu without first initializing it w/ windows?
[01:15] <rogue780> the wiki's instructions don't work
[01:15] <gary> how do i add repositories to apt?
[01:16] <Lord_Nightmare> ...heh. and after i compiled my own kernel I no longer had problems with random system hangs caused by xinerama and viewport movement.
[01:16] <mwe> rogue780: if it refers to modprobe.conf it's outdated
[01:16] <gary> how do i add repositories to apt?
[01:16] <rogue780> mwe: I'm basing that off of a tutorial for fedora that I got to work before when I was using fedora for mythtv
[01:17] <Storkme> how can i get another mouse button to show up in ubuntu?
[01:17] <haxality> how do I turn off GNOME tooltips?
[01:17] <magic_ninja> is there a good nfo file viewer for linux
[01:17] <Curs0r|BAM> please someone must know where i can find an ics tutorial
[01:17] <gary> Storkme: it should show up if your mouse is detected properly...maybe you need a different driver?
[01:17] <mwe> rogue780: you can just create modprobe.conf I believe. or create a file in /etc/modprobe.d/ they should work the same
[01:17] <haxality> magic_ninja: try "cat filename | less" in a terminal
[01:17] <rogue780> mwe: thanks
[01:18] <magic_ninja> i mean for nfo files
[01:18] <mkaster> can someone help me with my wireless card? when I try to dhclient my card it tries to connect to dhcp server then does dhcp discovery but fails. I have a d-link dwl-g120 card... PLEASE HELP
[01:18] <haxality> I always thought nfo files were just renamed .txt files
[01:18] <vladi> gary: you can just add the extra lines into /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:18] <haxality> shows how much I know, I guess
[01:18] <gary> thanks vladi
[01:18] <juano> haxality: try this
[01:18] <juano> http://threebit.net/mail-archive/fedora-list/msg00267.html
[01:18] <kitche> haxality: they can be but in reality nfo is windows system information
[01:19] <juano> haxality: http://threebit.net/mail-archive/fedora-list/msg00267.html
[01:19] <crazy_bus> juano, after trying to log into gnome I found it still does the same thing and freezes on '' window manager"
[01:19] <juano> crazy_bus: mm... no luck.., lets check out what else it could be
[01:19] <haxality> worked perfectly, juano!
[01:19] <haxality> thanks a lot :)
[01:20] <juano> haxality:  good :)
[01:22] <Storkme> gary, the problem is, one of the mouse buttonrs doesn't work in quake 4
[01:22] <Curs0r|BAM> where can i find an internet connection sharing tutorial?
[01:22] <flugheim> anyone who have managed to get the output of exaile in the personal message in amsn?
[01:22] <gary> Storkme: sorry i can't be of much help...
[01:23] <jmiller565> kitche: i did the same to the other driver that i just installed. I tried to enaby it but this is what happened                                                      Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[01:23] <jmiller565> the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[01:23] <jmiller565> what do i do now?
[01:23] <mwe> Curs0r|BAM: it's very easy in linux. echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[01:24] <Curs0r|BAM> and what does that command do?
[01:24] <mwe> Curs0r|BAM: enable internet connection sharing
[01:24] <magic_ninja> where are local icons stored?
[01:24] <jmiller565>  i did the same to the other driver that i just installed. I tried to enaby it but this is what happened lll   Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[01:24] <mwe> Curs0r|BAM: then set the host as gateway
[01:24] <juano> crazy_bus: im checkin.. ill try to come with something up
[01:25] <mwe> Curs0r|BAM: on the machine you want to have access to the internet
[01:25] <kitche> jmiller565: might want to read ubuntuforums on that since I even have trouble with that
[01:25] <Curs0r|BAM> this machine is supposed to provide the access
[01:25] <pinworm> hello!!!!!!
[01:25] <jmiller565> ok thanks again
[01:25] <pinworm> marry xmas
[01:25] <mwe> Curs0r|BAM: yes. you still need to set a gateway on the other machine
[01:25] <kitche> jmiller565: it seems to be how the package is made sometimes it works for me and other times it makes X puke
[01:26] <mwe> Curs0r|BAM: it needs to know how to connect to the internet
[01:26] <Curs0r|BAM> i have 1 device set up to get a dhcp address, the other is off right now because when i set it to a static ip my connection shuts off
[01:26] <pinworm> guys i have an issue with fglrx
[01:26] <pinworm> ive been scouring the forums but i havent found a solution
[01:26] <magic_ninja> how do i set up a loopback drive?
[01:27] <magic_ninja> !loopback
[01:27] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning.
[01:27] <Curs0r|BAM> mwe, i seriously need a lot more info than that
[01:27] <pinworm> if someone can help me out getting direct rendering working with fglrx drivers pm me plz
[01:28] <mwe> Curs0r|BAM: installing a dhcp server is a bit more involved and not necessary. you can use a static ip instead. just set your linux host as gateway on the other machine and give an ip on the same subnet
[01:28] <mc__> pinworm: that question was not smart...
[01:28] <Curs0r|BAM> so eth0 is my cable modem, eth1 is 192.168.0.1
[01:28] <mwe> Curs0r|BAM: all right if it doesn't make sense you should probably find a howto or something ;)
[01:28] <pinworm> do u think u can help me
[01:29] <Curs0r|BAM> mwe, that's what i was asking was for a howto
[01:29] <pinworm> i cant seem to get rid of mesa drivers
[01:30] <gary> Curs0r | BAM: can you connect to your router? (i.e. type 192.168.0.0 in your browser)
[01:31] <mwe> Curs0r|BAM: and I thouhgt I could get about just telling you how to do it ;)
[01:31] <Curs0r|BAM> i don't have a router that's the entire point
[01:31] <gary> ooo lol :$ sorry
[01:31] <Curs0r|BAM> mwe, i need the whole story though
[01:31] <mwe> Curs0r|BAM: yeah
[01:33] <mwe> Curs0r|BAM: I found this for you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370
[01:34] <Curs0r|BAM> hehe i was already reading it
[01:34] <Stormx2> Which is more secure, WEP or WPA?
[01:34] <tsukoharu> any1 know how i can view my cds?
[01:34] <con-man> how set i set file associations? I want VLC to be the default player for video files
[01:34] <vladi> WPA
[01:34] <vladi> WEP is pretty much useless
[01:34] <Stormx2> Okay.
[01:34] <Stormx2> Haha
[01:34] <Stormx2> Okay
[01:34] <tsukoharu> i never was able to view the file contents...
[01:34] <tsukoharu> of cds i burn
[01:35] <vladi> also if you use WPA with a preshared key (WPA-PSK), go to a site and have it generate a random 20-character key for you
[01:35] <mlk> wireless question: is there a way to connect to a hidden SSID using some kind of KDE wireless tools etc.?
[01:36] <vladi> there is no point to "hiding" your SSID
[01:36] <Matthe1> hi all. I've been playing around with linux live cds and have been trying to get my usb wifi adapter to work, but with no luck
[01:36] <vladi> the SSID is always sent in the clear by the client when a client connects, so anyone listening will still hear it
[01:36] <vladi> also, anyone listening can pick up the MAC address of any clients connected, and use a deauth attack to make the clients reconnect, forcing an SSID transmission
[01:37] <vladi> (since MACs are always sent in the clear)
[01:37] <mlk> vladi: thats not what i asked.
[01:37] <Matthe1> it's a yd1201 based usb dongle
[01:37] <Matthe1> zd not yd
[01:37] <magic_ninja> is there good cd image conversion software under linux out there?
[01:37] <magic_ninja> !iso
[01:37] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning.
[01:38] <Curs0r|BAM> bash: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward: Permission denied
[01:39] <magic_ninja> is there a good conversion software
[01:39] <magic_ninja> i was wanting apt-get package name
[01:40] <xbrc> can someone help me here when I tried to mount my win32(ntfs) drive with the steps provided on ubuntu website.. I clicked on the drive and get this msg "only root can mount /dev/sda5 on /media/win32"
[01:40] <IndyGunFreak> magic_ninja, what distro are you using?
[01:40] <xbrc> so does that mean I need to sign in as root? if so how?
[01:40] <tsukoharu> any1 know the dir of my cd drive
[01:40] <tsukoharu> >
[01:40] <tsukoharu> how to find it?
[01:41] <magic_ninja> ubuntu
[01:41] <Who_> I am getting really, really hard crashes - no SYSREQ or NUM Lock. Only when reading from one particular disk. I want to isolate whether the problem is the disk or the drivers for the SATA controller. I only have one SATA disk. any ideas?
[01:41] <IndyGunFreak> magic_ninja, what are you trying to do again, why do you need conversion software
[01:41] <magic_ninja> IndyGunFreak: to convert a bin/cue to iso so i can mount it, unless i can just mount the cue file as a loopback filesystem
[01:42] <IndyGunFreak> i see, nevermind, thought you were asking something else.
[01:42] <tsukoharu> any1 know the dir of my cd drive??
[01:42] <magic_ninja> IndyGunFreak: and yes i need to preserve copyright protection (installing diablo II under cedega, i lost the cd's but have the cases, so i d/led the cds off the net)
[01:42] <Who_> tsukoharu: have a look in /media and see what looks likely.
[01:42] <Who_> tsukoharu - it could well be /media/cdrom
[01:42] <fisheye> i did it!!! thank you guys!!
[01:42] <Matthe1> running ubuntu 6.10 live cd> is it normal that there is no /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware in filesystem
[01:43] <fisheye> i'll post the awnser to my problem on the forum
[01:43] <Curs0r|BAM> bash: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward: Permission denied
[01:43] <LiquidNerd> I'm trying to get my quickcam pro 4000 to work... is there an apt-get'able solution for it?
[01:43] <fisheye> yeah
[01:43] <cafuego_> curs0r: tip: be root
[01:44] <Eldanen> Is this line correct, if / is in /dev/sda3:  kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.20-generic root=/dev/sda3 ro quiet splash
[01:44] <tsukoharu> i cant find /media
[01:44] <xbrc> if they wanted people to use this crap they should have made it like windows... :( im soo frustrated
[01:44] <wizard> Hey all.  I just got an HP Officejet 5610 for Christmas.  It prints fine, but Xsane doesn't detect it as a scanner.  I also don't know how to set it up as a fax in openoffice.  After I follow the fax config settings, it asks for a command line to communicate with my device.  I don't know where to find/learn this...  Any help is appreciated.
[01:44] <Matthe1> tsukoharu: go to filesystem, should be there
[01:45] <tsukoharu> im in the parent dir
[01:45] <tsukoharu> nothing here xD
[01:45] <wizard> xbrc if you want to use crap, go back to windows.  Else, stick with it xD
[01:45] <tsukoharu> cept a bunch of folders i dont think i should mess with
[01:45] <Who_> xbrc: the whole signing in as root thijng is _very_ good for security :)
[01:45] <vladi> lol @ xbrc
[01:46] <LiquidNerd> I'm trying to get my quickcam pro 4000 to work... is there an apt-get'able solution for it?
[01:46] <xbrc> Who_: well do i need to sign in as root to config this stuff.. when I tried to mount my ntfs drive i get this "only root can mount /dev/sda5 on /media/win32"
[01:46] <vladi> xbrc: windows is (finally) moving in the same direction in regards to privilege separation
[01:46] <Who_> xbrc: I missed the original question - if you're trying to mount devices, then yes - you do have to be root - but you can gain root privelidges for a single command by putting 'sudo' before it, like 'sudo gedit <some file>'
[01:47] <paLindr0me> hi
[01:47] <paLindr0me> i need help
[01:47] <xbrc> yeah i did everything that file says and it still hasnt worked
[01:47] <xbrc> sudo was before everything
[01:47] <xbrc> i copied and pasted and did everything this website says https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ntfs-3g
[01:48] <Who_> so xbrc: all you probably need to do is push the upwards cursor at the terminal (should recall last command) push home to go to the beginning of the line and add 'sudo ' to make it 'sudo mount <a load of args I don't know :)>'
[01:48] <paLindr0me> can some one help me ?
[01:48] <xbrc> yeah on that site sudo is before everything you type.
[01:48] <Who_> xbrc: I gotta go, really sorry - it's family christmas time :) go with using sudo before the mount command - good luck!!
[01:49] <Intelligitimate> The Live CD doesn't boot Ubuntu for an IBM Think Pad T22. I need some help.
[01:49] <xbrc> yeah i did, but merry xmas
[01:49] <wastrel> paLindr0me:  can't help if we don't know the prob ;] 
[01:49] <Who_> xbrc: sorry - trust me, stick with Linux for a while and you won't look back :)
[01:49] <vladi> xbrc: you just want to mount your ntfs drive right? and your ntfs drive is on sda5?
[01:49] <xbrc> yes
[01:49] <xbrc> that is the whole drive..
[01:50] <xbrc> i was dedicated to my media/msuic
[01:50] <vladi> ok
[01:50] <vladi> you got a terminal open right?
[01:50] <xbrc> it is in ntfs format
[01:50] <xbrc> yes.
[01:50] <vladi> ok
[01:50] <vladi> cd /mnt
[01:50] <vladi> sudo mkdir windows
[01:50] <vladi> sudo mount /dev/sda5 windows
[01:50] <vladi> this should mount your drive in /mnt/windows but you wont be able to write to it, only read from it, as root
[01:50] <hanasaki> anyway to get flash 9? java 6? on edgy?
[01:51] <wastrel> !flash9
[01:51] <ubotu> flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[01:51] <vladi> so to see its contents, you would so 'sudo ls windows' (in the /mnt directory)
[01:51] <Intelligitimate> Does the Live CD boot correctly for an IBM ThinkPad T22?
[01:51] <wastrel> dunno from java
[01:51] <paLindr0me> vladi : can u help me? i cant compile...it says gcc not found
[01:51] <wizard> Hey all.  I just got an HP Officejet 5610 for Christmas.  It prints fine, but Xsane doesn't detect it as a scanner.  I also don't know how to set it up as a fax in openoffice.  After I follow the fax config settings, it asks for a command line to communicate with my device.  I don't know where to find/learn this...  Any help is appreciated.
[01:51] <IndyGunFreak> !backports
[01:51] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[01:51] <hanasaki> thanks
[01:51] <hanasaki> brb
[01:51] <vox754> !compile
[01:51] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:52] <wastrel> !gcc | paLindr0me
[01:52] <ubotu> paLindr0me: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:52] <curs0r> wewtypantys! it works great!
[01:52] <magic_ninja> IndyGunFreak: how about that coversion software?
[01:52] <IndyGunFreak> i told you i misunderstood what you were saying, i don't know.
[01:53] <paLindr0me> i dont have working internet connection cos i use pppoe i need to compile that,is ubuntu 6.06 support pppoe?
[01:53] <TheSilentWarrior> hey guys, anyone has a wireless connection using RT73 driver for usb conceptronic adapter ? need help installing it (i am noob xD)
[01:54] <vox754> paLindr0me, of course it is supported, you just have to be more specific in your actions
[01:55] <paLindr0me> how do i create pppoe connection,im using wireless
[01:55] <vladi> xbrc: did that work?
[01:55] <magic_ninja> anyone know some good bin to iso conversion software or how to mount a bin/cue file type
[01:55] <wastrel> pppoe over wireless?
[01:55] <paLindr0me> yes
[01:55] <paLindr0me> ...
[01:55] <wastrel> pppoeow
[01:55] <vox754> paLindr0me,  now, that is your problem, PPPoE is easy, but setting a wireless card is troublesome
[01:55] <xbrc> yeah it listed the content.. but how to do make it so I can click on the files?
[01:56] <paLindr0me> i set up my card
[01:56] <paLindr0me> and its working fine
[01:56] <magic_ninja> IndyGunFreak: ok ty anyway
[01:56] <jarrod10> .join gentoo
[01:56] <magic_ninja> IndyGunFreak: there are a lot of lines going through this chan though :-)
[01:56] <Slart> magic_ninja: bchunk.. it's in the repos
[01:56] <TheSilentWarrior> hey guys, anyone has a wireless connection using RT73 driver for usb conceptronic adapter ? need help installing it (i am noob xD)
[01:56] <IndyGunFreak> i understand, no prob.
[01:57] <vladi> xbrc: yea this will only let you copy the files from the drive to another drive, not much else
[01:57] <vladi> xbrc: i havnt really messed around with the 3g drivers so cant help much there
[01:57] <Slart> magic_ninja: I tried it on some binc/cue files from windows games.. worked fine.. simple command line execution
[01:58] <xbrc> vladi: yeah i followed these instructions to create a drive to access the main drive and it is not working :(
[01:59] <curs0r> any reason why a cheapie usb digital cam wouldn't work with linux?
[01:59] <Robby> hi
[01:59] <vladi> xbrc: did you edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file to add in the new repos?
[01:59] <haxality> hello again, I was wondering if it's possible to set the default icon size to 75% in nautilus
[02:00] <xbrc> vladi: yeah i went through the whole thing here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ntfs-3g
[02:00] <Intelligitimate> I really need help. I can't get the Ubuntu live CD to load correctly on my IMB ThinkPad T22. It gets all the way to making the Login sound, but then doesn't go any further.
[02:00] <Intelligitimate> What do I need to do?
[02:01] <wastrel> login sound you mean gnome starts up?
[02:01] <xbrc> vladi: the only part I couldn't figure out was that it said to change the drive from whatever to this /dev/<your partition> /media/<mount point> ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0 but my drive wasnt listed on there.. so I added the line with the new mounting point.
[02:01] <Intelligitimate> But I don't see anything, wastrel.
[02:02] <Intelligitimate> It makes the startup sound though.
[02:02] <wastrel> can you do ctrl-alt-f1 to get a shell prompt?
[02:02] <Robby> What is the best package when I want to see  Macromedia Flash in Firefox?  There are many... and I am not sure what version of Flash I get.... here is the URL::               http://pastebin.com/844913
[02:02] <apokryphos> Robby: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[02:02] <vladi> xbrc: can you open up fstab and paste the entry here?
[02:02] <Intelligitimate> Possibly. I'll try that in a minute.
[02:03] <Intelligitimate> But then what?
[02:03] <xbrc> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[02:03] <xbrc> #
[02:03] <xbrc> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[02:03] <xbrc> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[02:03] <xbrc> /dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[02:03] <xbrc> /dev/hda6       none            swap    sw              0       0
[02:03] <xbrc> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[02:03] <xbrc> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[02:03] <xbrc> /dev/sda5  /media/win32 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0
[02:03] <Intelligitimate> Use pastebin!
[02:03] <Nontitle> lol
[02:03] <kitche> vladi: why did you tell him to do that?
[02:03] <Intelligitimate> Naughty xbrc!
[02:03] <kitche> Intelligitimate: actually it was vladi
[02:03] <vladi> kitche: i told him to paste the entry
[02:03] <Nontitle> oh well... it works for now
[02:03] <vladi> not the whole file
[02:03] <waterpear> yes
[02:03] <Robby> apokryphos, already looked there
[02:03] <xbrc> sorry.. didnt mean to paste that if i wasnt suppose to
[02:03] <Robby> and I did something wrong some days ago
[02:03] <Robby> so I wanna make sure
[02:03] <vladi> ok, xbrc, have you created the folder /media/win32 ?
[02:04] <xbrc> vladi: yeah
[02:04] <waterpear> and are you sure is's sda5
[02:04] <apokryphos> RobbeZ: then you'd know what to do
[02:04] <magic_ninja> !automatix
[02:04] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[02:04] <Nontitle> chances are its sda1
[02:04] <xbrc> yeah i listed the drive like it said to do
[02:04] <haboy_> what media in ubuntu that supports a ogm? whats ogm? is it a video?
[02:04] <paLindr0me> can some one please tell me how do i create PPPoE....? what shoud i tipe ?
[02:04] <xbrc> when i did what vladi told me earlier it listed the files.. so the drive is right
[02:05] <waterpear> haboy_, ogm is an ogg encoded movie
[02:05] <Nontitle> waterpear: OGG Theora?
[02:05] <haboy_> waterpear: so its just another format for a video file
[02:05] <haboy_> ogm!
[02:05] <vladi> xbrc: so you rebooted, and when you type ls /media/win32 it doenst list anything?
[02:05] <haboy_> !ogm
[02:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ogm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:05] <xbrc> right
[02:06] <vladi> hrm
[02:06] <paLindr0me> !pppoe
[02:06] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[02:06] <isede> i installed ruby_gems , but my prgrams do not see the gem libraries (standard ryby libs are visible al right) what ENV variable should i set and how?
[02:06] <sam> Can someone here help me out with my sound it plays the mp3 well it looks like its playing but no sound what can I do?
[02:06] <vladi> ok try this 'sudo mount /dev/sda5 /media/win32/ -t ntfs-3g
[02:06] <vladi> without the '
[02:06] <vladi> heh
[02:06] <waterpear> haboy_, chances are that mplayer can play it
[02:06] <haxality> can I change the default view in nautilus to be 75%?
[02:07] <sam> i've updated my sources, did an upgrade, I dunno what else to do
[02:07] <sam> in alsamixer nothing is muted
[02:07] <haboy_> waterpear: and it plays a subtitles right? please tell me what you know about ogm
[02:08] <waterpear> i already did except for the fact that ogg movies are ususally theora compressed
[02:08] <waterpear> i *think* it has subtitles though
[02:08] <xbrc> vladi: restarting i guess to see if that helped?
[02:08] <sam> Anyone know how to get the sound working>
[02:08] <sam> ?
[02:09] <vladi> xbrc: did you try the command?
[02:09] <finn_> !dvd
[02:09] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:09] <haboy_> waterpear: thanks
[02:09] <finn_> !xcdroast
[02:09] <vladi> xbrc: sudo mount /dev/sda5 /media/win32/ -t ntfs-3g
[02:09] <ubotu> xcdroast: X based CD-writer software. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.98+0alpha15-7 (edgy), package size 1803 kB, installed size 4632 kB
[02:09] <xbrc> vladi: yeah.. was it suppose to do something?
[02:09] <vladi> xbrc:  yea heh, what output did you get?
[02:09] <finn_> what do I need to do to burn DVDs with xcdroast?
[02:09] <xbrc> vladi: nothing.. when i typed in terminal it didn't say anything
[02:10] <xbrc> vladi: just went to next line like I could type something else
[02:10] <Nontitle> !theora
[02:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about theora - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:10] <Nontitle> !ogg
[02:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:10] <vladi> xbrc: ok, now try sudo ls /media/win32
[02:10] <Nontitle> agh
[02:10] <sam> sigh several hours down the tubes
[02:10] <kdegel> happy winter solstice all you heathens
[02:10] <xbrc> not doing anything
[02:11] <sam> can someone please help?
[02:11] <Intelligitimate> Ok, I got it to load the Live CD in Safe Graphics mode. Can I use the Live CD to access the contents of my hard drive? I need to alter a file on a Windows.
[02:12] <vladi> xbrc: im out of ideas heh. try posting on the ubuntu forums maybe
[02:12] <avuton> How can I disable 'suspend' but not hibernate?
[02:12] <vox754> sam, hardware, laptop or PC. Check your speakers' plugs
[02:12] <xbrc> vladi: thanks for trying :)
[02:13] <vox754> sam, never had any errors before? Or just once?
[02:13] <sam> vox754: its an laptop i know the sound works it use to have windows on it
[02:13] <sam> vox754: i just installed ubuntu like 20mins ago
[02:14] <sam> vox754: i installed the codecs and did the updates still working through xmms tryin to play an mp3 file
[02:14] <magic_ninja> !cdemu
[02:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cdemu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:14] <sam> I dont get no errors
[02:14] <sam> there is no sound
[02:14] <sam> and the volume is up
[02:14] <vox754> sam, well laptops are tricky
[02:14] <sam> :(
[02:14] <sam> so its gonna be hard to get the sound to wor?
[02:14] <sam> work*
[02:15] <vox754> systems, preferences, sounds, check there for devices to use
[02:15] <sam> there is
[02:15] <vox754> test it and !Enter > sam
[02:15] <CheyenneD> Is Ubuntu compatable with a IBM Thinkpad?
[02:16] <sam> vox754: the sound does not work
[02:16] <wastrel> CheyenneD:  http://www.linux-laptop.net/
[02:16] <vox754> sure, CheyenneD, *sometimes*
[02:16] <sam> vox754: it wont play anything
[02:17] <Intelligitimate> Ok, I got it to load the Live CD in Safe Graphics mode. Can I use the Live CD to access the contents of my hard drive? I need to alter a file on a Windows.
[02:17] <CheyenneD> How does one install Samba?
[02:17] <wastrel> !ntfs
[02:17] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[02:17] <TheSilentWarrior> hey guys, anyone has a wireless connection using RT73 driver for usb conceptronic adapter ? need help installing it (i am noob xD)
[02:17] <sam> vox754: what else can I do?
[02:18] <vox754> sam, what is your "default sound card", what other options you see?
[02:19] <sam> HDA ATI SB
[02:19] <sam> there are no other options
[02:19] <isede> !rubygems
[02:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rubygems - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:19] <remaxim> re
[02:20] <chris__> hello
[02:20] <remaxim> hello
[02:20] <remaxim> sorry, wrong channel
[02:20] <theflyingfool> are there any other free wine like programs
[02:20] <sam> vox754: any ideas?
[02:21] <mc__> theflyingfool: nope
[02:21] <vox754> sam, open a terminal, "sudo lshw -businfo" look for "multimedia"
[02:22] <hypetech> everything is free...for a price :)
[02:22] <CheyenneD> I meant that i need Samba to connect to a windows and linux machines
[02:23] <kdegel> http://www.sanitarium.net/hm-xmas.mp3
[02:23] <dm> Synic are you out there
[02:23] <hypetech> CheyenneD: have you tried smb:///<ipaddress> in konqueror?
[02:23] <sam> pci@00:14.2             multimedia  ATI Technologies Inc
[02:24] <sam> vox754: thats what i got
[02:24] <KnowledgEngi> hello
[02:24] <KnowledgEngi> how can i convert ogg 2 mp3 ??
[02:24] <bruenig> hmmm, the topic appears to endorse an unsustainable policy, that of recognizing religious holidays. If it doesn't recognize all it is discriminatory
[02:24] <merda> AH
[02:24] <merda> quanto baiano
[02:24] <merda> deploravel
[02:24] <merda> seus bostas
[02:24] <KnowledgEngi> i need to convert ogg files and put it in a usbKey mp3 player
[02:24] <merda> nos somos pretos
[02:24] <merda> bandiudos
[02:24] <merda> vida loka hehe
[02:25] <hypetech> bruenig: that's why it says 'happy' instead of 'merry'
[02:25] <vox754> !br
[02:25] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[02:25] <merda> vamo brinda o dia de hoje porque amanha so pertence a deus heheheh
[02:25] <bosta> muito dpeloravel
[02:25] <wend> anyone have any experience with configuring exim4 to support multiple domains?
[02:25] <bruenig> hypetech, what? that doesn't any sense
[02:25] <bosta> vida loka na historia
[02:25] <merda> heheheheh
[02:25] <bosta> passa o dinheiro
[02:25] <merda> EHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE
[02:25] <hypetech> bruenig: exactly
[02:25] <merda> tudo anta
[02:25] <bosta> passem o dinehiro
[02:25] <gwark> having trouble installing flash player for firefox ... is there a trick to it ?
[02:25] <merda> que giram qu esabem algo
[02:25] <merda> e
[02:25] <merda> de informatica
[02:25] <bosta> money
[02:25] <vox754> !moderator
[02:25] <merda> hehehe
[02:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about moderator - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:25] <merda> passem o dinheiro
[02:25] <merda> seus bostas
[02:25] <bruenig> KnowledgEngi, I know how to do it the other way
[02:25] <merda> HEHEHE
[02:25] <bosta> I need money
[02:25] <bruenig> vox754, try !ops
[02:25] <bosta> go
[02:25] <bosta> go
[02:25] <bosta> go
[02:25] <merda> bono vox
[02:25] <merda> veado
[02:25] <bosta> go
[02:25] <vox754> !ops
[02:25] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!
[02:25] <merda> gay
[02:25] <sam> vox754: now what do I do?
[02:25] <merda> vox gay
[02:25] <eilker> !ops
[02:26] <merda> vox gay
[02:26] <bosta> bono vox is gay
[02:26] <KnowledgEngi> bruenig, what i need to instal for convert ogg2mp3?
[02:26] <bosta> GAYSSSSSSSSS
[02:26] <bosta> YOU GAY
[02:26] <bruenig> KnowledgEngi, ogg2mp3
[02:26] <bruenig> !info ogg2mp3
[02:26] <ubotu> Package ogg2mp3 does not exist in any distro I know
[02:27] <bruenig> nevermind got mixed up
[02:27] <bruenig> !info mp32ogg
[02:27] <ubotu> mp32ogg: Converts MP3 file to Ogg Vorbis. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11-7 (edgy), package size 7 kB, installed size 64 kB
[02:27] <sam> vox754?
[02:27] <KnowledgEngi> i need the oppisit
[02:27] <KnowledgEngi> ogg2mp3
[02:27] <bruenig> !info soundkonverter
[02:27] <ubotu> soundkonverter: KDE frontend to various audio converters. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1047 kB, installed size 1980 kB
[02:27] <KnowledgEngi> !ogg2mp3
[02:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ogg2mp3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:27] <vox754> sam, hold on, these brasileiros guys disturbed me
[02:27] <bruenig> KnowledgEngi, I am pretty sure soundkonverter will do it
[02:27] <sam> oh sorry ;/
[02:27] <theflyingfool> where would i find a good how to for use of wine
[02:27] <KnowledgEngi> !mp3 converter
[02:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp3 converter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:28] <KnowledgEngi> !oggnverter
[02:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oggnverter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:28] <bruenig> !fishing
[02:28] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[02:28] <Matthe1> ok, I am having serious issues with mz usb wifi adapter (zd1201 based)
[02:28] <crazy_bus> Can anyone help me.  When I try to log into gnome it freezes on 'window manager'.  And when I log into failsafe gnome, it also freezes on 'window manager' but it also comes up with a error message saying "Unable to determin the address of the message bus"
[02:28] <bruenig> !info sox
[02:28] <ubotu> sox: A universal sound sample translator. In component universe, is optional. Version 12.17.9-1 (edgy), package size 285 kB, installed size 656 kB
[02:29] <Matthe1> !zd1201
[02:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zd1201 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:29] <asterias> were is a ubuntu italian channel?
[02:29] <vladi> crazy_bus: the same thing happened to me when i was playing around with beta nvidia drivers + beryl + dual monitors&tv-out
[02:29] <apokryphos> !investigate
[02:29] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[02:29] <apokryphos> !it | asterias
[02:29] <ubotu> asterias: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:29] <kitche> asterias, #ubuntu-it
[02:29] <vladi> crazy_bus: i just reinstalled kubuntu this time
[02:29] <phaedrus44>  dudes...how do iget my wireless mouse werking?
[02:29] <vladi> phaedrus44: my wireless mouse 'just works'
[02:30] <DigitalNinja> How do I force a .deb package to install all the dependencies?
[02:30] <asterias> ubotu: grazie a te
[02:30] <waterpear> phaedrus44, plug it in and make sure it's charged/had good batteries
[02:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grazie a te - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:30] <TheSilentWarrior> hey guys, anyone has a wireless connection using RT73 driver for usb conceptronic adapter ?
[02:30] <spasticteapot> Can anyone help me get an Ubuntu package?
[02:30] <spasticteapot> I can't access a repository.
[02:30] <apokryphos> !bot | asterias
[02:30] <ubotu> asterias: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:30] <bruenig> spasticteapot, which one
[02:30] <phaedrus44> oh
[02:30] <vox754> !Bot > asterias
[02:30] <jimmygoon> does anyone know if there is a way to do a NON-interactive password change?
[02:30] <spasticteapot> maleto.homelinux.net
[02:30] <spasticteapot> I'm trying to get murrine, a theme program for XFCE
[02:30] <crazy_bus> Is there anyway of fixing the problem without a complete reinstall?
[02:31] <RobbeZ> Is the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu strictly the kde thing ?  and if so, can you swap back a kubuntu distro to a gnobuntu ?
[02:31] <KnowledgEngi> how can i convert a ogg file to mp3 ?
[02:31] <sam> hrmm
[02:31] <apokryphos> RobbeZ: kubuntu and ubuntu can both be installed quite easily at the same time
[02:31] <apokryphos> RobbeZ: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[02:31] <RobbeZ> knowledgEngi : mediacoder
[02:31] <bruenig> KnowledgEngi, get soundconverter
[02:31] <fushidamn> I think it is called grabber to change formats
[02:31] <CheyenneD> How do I install a version of VNC in Ubuntu 6.10?
[02:32] <apokryphos> !vnc
[02:32] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[02:32] <Matthe1> Help with zd1201 based USB WiFi adapter required: I've got the driver install and can deregister and register it but my usb device is not recognized. Device Manager just says not recognized and I've read threads on the forums and tips and all, but nothing seems to work. Help would be greatly appreciated
[02:32] <SuPeRhAm> it comes with it CheyenneD
[02:32] <Matthe1> please pm me
[02:32] <sam> vox754: here is a quick q are there usually sound issues in ubuntu ?
[02:32] <RobbeZ> apokryphos : so they are exactly alike, but instead of starting with gnome, they start with kde ?
[02:32] <vox754> sam, in a terminal "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart". No, I don't think many people have issues with sound.
[02:32] <TheSilentWarrior> hey guys, anyone has a wireless connection using RT73 driver for usb conceptronic adapter ?
[02:33] <Kilzin> Hey guys, I just burned the 6.06 Ubuntu Live CD and I have problems loading X when not in Safe Graphics Mode. I'm quite new to Linux. Could anyone help?
[02:33] <apokryphos> RobbeZ: pretty much.
[02:33] <saxofoner> Heyyy
[02:33] <jimmygoon> does anyone know if there is a way to do a NON-interactive password change?
[02:33] <apokryphos> Kilzin: what's the error that you get?
[02:33] <SpacePuppy> jimmygoon: you need to explain what that means.. .lol
[02:33] <vox754> sam, mostly with video drivers. Since you have an ATI, maybe you should investigate on that.
[02:34] <SpacePuppy> jimmygoon: or what it is that you want to do
[02:34] <jimmygoon> I need to issue a command "passwd USERNAME PASSWORD" and have it changed
[02:34] <sam> vox i've restarted alsa now what?
[02:34] <jimmygoon> it can run as sudo if necessary
[02:34] <fushidamn> check out www.greshrpms.net for more information about 'grabbers' to convert formats
[02:34] <eilker> !k3b
[02:34] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[02:34] <Matthe1> or is there a way to tell ubuntu what device is plugged into the usb port?
[02:35] <SpacePuppy> jimmygoon: so what have you tried that hasn't worked?
[02:35] <RobbeZ> apokryphos : you wouldn't happen to know if v7 will have a graphical grub, that can be modified trough GrubEd for example ?
[02:35] <Kilzin> apokryphos: When Gnome is supposed to load, I get a blue and red screen with tons of weird symbols and it says X has had problems with configuration. I've also read it involves xorg.conf but I guess you know that.
[02:35] <jimmygoon> yep
[02:35] <sam> vox754: tried to play the sound again still dont work
[02:35] <jimmygoon> can I do some piping...?
[02:35] <apokryphos> RobbeZ: I know that Kubuntu will have one; Ubuntu probably will. It should've been implemented years ago though :/
[02:35] <bruenig> a blue and red screen of deat, a BARSOD
[02:35] <saxofoner> bruenig: Haha
[02:36] <saxofoner> I'ma barsod you, fool!
[02:36] <Kilzin> BARSODs make me cry :(
[02:36] <apokryphos> Kilzin: curious. I recommend doing this when it happens: <ctrl><alt><f1> and then typing sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and just walk through the wizard. More info here:
[02:36] <apokryphos> !resolution | Kilzin
[02:36] <ubotu> Kilzin: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:36] <magic_ninja> !loopback
[02:36] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning.
[02:37] <sam> vox754?
[02:37] <vox754> sam, I don't know. ... search the forums ... look at your keyboard, press "Fn" and sound icons, do stuff, move the things, ...
[02:37] <saxofoner> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=325250   ----Anybody know how to find tablet config properties in Ubuntu?  xorg seems to be of no use in my case...
[02:38] <sam> vox754: thx winxp sounds much easier i dont wanna reck my brain tryin to fix a sound issue thanks for everything tho
[02:38] <RobbeZ> apokryphos : is their a possibility to vote for the inclussion of certain packages, like VLC (easy 2 add), or Beryl (nightmare ish)
[02:38] <bruenig> worth the hundreds of dollars I guess
[02:38] <Kilzin> Thanks apokryphos, I,ll try it and be back
[02:38] <Music_Shuffle> bruenig, to each his own ;P
[02:38] <Music_Shuffle> his/her, to be PC.
[02:38] <saxofoner> Heh.... I got WinXP Pro for free
[02:38] <apokryphos> RobbeZ: you can post wishes in the bugtracker, but vlc won't be included by default for legal reasons, and there is already a spec to have a composite manager installed by default in feisty
[02:39] <KnowledgEngi> sond converter do not convert to mp3
[02:39] <yurik> anyone know where i can get opensolaris?
[02:39] <apokryphos> RobbeZ: whether it will be beryl or compiz, though, hasn't been decided
[02:39] <bruenig> I suppose, if you have the money might as well. I mean if I had a scratch on my car but could buff it out with a little bit of effort or pay hundreds of dollars to take it to a body shop, I guess it depends on how much money you have as to what you might do
[02:39] <fushidamn> I got a copy of XP Pro for free in my last school (college) to bad the school was not free.. haha
[02:39] <LameBMX> hi everyone
[02:39] <apokryphos> RobbeZ: most probably it will be compiz, though
[02:39] <Music_Shuffle> apokryphos, is it leaning one way so far?
[02:39] <dm> synic r u here?
[02:39] <Music_Shuffle> Ahh, ok.
[02:40] <LameBMX> how do i keep my monitor from going to sleep after 10 minutes or sooo ... system power options didnt fix that ... !?!?!?
[02:40] <apokryphos> Music_Shuffle: compiz packs have been around in universe for ages, and I believe there still aren't any beryl packages in yet.
[02:40] <DigitalNinja> is there a way to tell dpkg or something else to install all the dependencies? I'm trying to install the debain version of webmin.
[02:40] <RobbeZ> apokryphos : hmmz, and why can't they have both ?  I know the disc space, but as a easy extra for instance ?
[02:40] <gr0k3m> can't find package vlc? do I need to add some non-standard sources?
[02:40] <apokryphos> Music_Shuffle: also, during open week I saw a couple of devs saying they'd prefer to go down the compiz route.
[02:40] <idlemind> in your monitors controls maybe?
[02:40] <apokryphos> RobbeZ: because only one can be default
[02:40] <Music_Shuffle> Yeah I don't think there are without following all the install guides for Beryl.  Although I love it much. xD
[02:40] <RobbeZ> apokryphos: :-)
[02:41] <apokryphos> there might be the other one available in universe, but can't really say yet.
[02:41] <bruenig> LameBMX, on xfce, it is attached to the screensaver settings, so maybe that is the case for gnome too
[02:41] <fushidamn> I do not see why you cannot have both installed, only one can be default but that does not mean you cannot start the other one
[02:41] <kitche> beryl is not in universe, but beryl-project has their own repo
[02:41] <PORDO> woah!  i changed my sources.list, and now i'm back to the old Xscreensaver, instead of the modern edgy thing with my picture in it.
[02:41] <gr0k3m> 'apt-get install vlc' should just work right?
[02:41] <yurik> anyone know where i can get opensolaris?
[02:41] <PORDO> ugg...where is like an "official" sources.list?
[02:42] <fushidamn> I still have both versions of firefox 1.5/2.0 installed and I was having to use 1.5 for realplayer till I figured out how to import the plugins correctly
[02:42] <apokryphos> fushidamn: because we don't want a load of window managers all over the place. It will already include metacity and a composite manager
[02:42] <LameBMX> worth a shot .. i think its an apci issue myself cuz gentoo n vector both did it also
[02:42] <kitche> yurik: that is offtopic but try sun's website
[02:42] <bruenig> vector is ugly
[02:42] <yurik> k thanks
[02:42] <fushidamn> yurik, yeah, go to sun's sight, that is where I got my copy
[02:43] <astroboy> #ekiga
[02:43] <saxofoner> anybody know how to config a tablet?
[02:43] <Intangir> hey guys, how can i play a DVD on linux?
[02:43] <fushidamn> you have to register, give em so info and email address so that can spam you, but the OS is free and the spam is somewhat relevent to its use
[02:43] <vox754> gr0k3m, yes, they are in universe, multiverse
[02:43] <Intangir> totem says it cant handle it
[02:44] <PORDO> Intangir you can try gmplayer, or gxine...
[02:44] <PORDO> stuff like that.
[02:44] <fushidamn> yea, intangir, so into synaptic and add universe and multiverse and then you can get the codecs
[02:44] <fushidamn> I just did that earlier
[02:44] <jimmygoon> Can you do something on the command line to pass a script arguments that will fill in input slots?
[02:44] <fushidamn> you need xine for totem
[02:44] <Matthe1> so is anyone able to help me or not?
[02:45] <Intangir> PORDO: i got mplayer
[02:45] <Intangir> but it doesnt seem to be .. right
[02:45] <vox754> !seen sam
[02:45] <ubotu> I last saw sam (n=sam@always.gotpot.org) 4m 56s ago, quiting: "Lost terminal"
[02:45] <CheyenneD> How do i connect to my OS X Mac?
[02:45] <Intangir> hrm i opened up the vobs directly
[02:45] <Intangir> that seems to work
[02:46] <fushidamn> intangir, yeah I have mplayer installed but I was getting an alsta, cannot perform simple operation thing, so I just got xine for totem and it works
[02:46] <juano> any one encountered a Warning: .dmrc file should have 644 permissions .. etc. etc at login in gnome ??
[02:46] <CheyenneD> How do i connect to my OS X Mac?
[02:46] <Intangir> im playing the vobs directly..
[02:46] <eilker> my debian sees windows clients directly-automatically , but my kubuntu doesnt...why ?
[02:46] <vox754> juano, no
[02:46] <CheyenneD> '
[02:46] <Intangir> i dont have dvd control but .. i guess they are all here
[02:46] <juano> i tried chmod 644 /home/juano/.dmrc as root no luck
[02:46] <PORDO> i don't understand what automatix does that aptitude doesn't already do.
[02:47] <gr0k3m> vox754, cheers
[02:47] <PORDO> or that apt-get doesn't already do.
[02:47] <fushidamn> intangir, you need the codecs to play mpegs and what not
[02:47] <Intangir> i got all the codecs
[02:47] <vox754> gr0k3m, what? It Worked?
[02:47] <Intangir> but nothing seems to know how to open this up with the dvd's menu and all..
[02:47] <fushidamn> so what error are you getting?
[02:47] <Nontitle> eilker: you should describe it a little more than that
[02:47] <yurik> cheyenneD what os are you connecting with?
[02:48] <Intangir> how exactly am i supposed to open it on gmplayer?
[02:48] <CheyenneD> 6.10
[02:48] <Intangir> i dont get an error, i just have nothing to open
[02:48] <Intangir> oh totem said something
[02:48] <yurik> mac os 6.10?
[02:48] <fushidamn> if nothing else, right click and pick the player you want to play the video/movie
[02:48] <Intangir> but iforgot what, i never use totem though i use mplayer for just about everything else
[02:48] <Intangir> k let me try that brb
[02:48] <juano> any one encountered a Warning: .dmrc file should have 644 permissions .. etc. etc at login in gnome ??
[02:48] <h0ndaracer2> hey how can i tell if a Dynex 2-Port USB 2.0 PCMCIA Notebook Card is compatible with ubuntu
[02:48] <CheyenneD> no ubuntu 6.10 to a mac x
[02:49] <eilker> Nontitle: i just installed debian, it got all network, even windows clients too...but in ubuntu i dont have it,  i need to carry a big file from windows machine to kubuntu machine...
[02:49] <Intangir> right clciking the DVD only allows me to open/browse folder
[02:49] <Intangir> which both open the directory
[02:49] <yurik> i know how to do mac to ubuntu slight
[02:49] <yurik> pm me cheyenneD
[02:49] <Erb> When I right-click a document in File Browser and select 'Open With', it has two instances of GVim. How do I remove one of them?
[02:50] <KnowledgEngi> how can i convert a ogg file to mp3 ?
[02:50] <fushidamn> ok, your playing a dvd, not a video you have one your computer....ignore former comment
[02:50] <Nontitle> hmm... well i'm not sure what could be causing it
[02:50] <bruenig> KnowledgEngi, I will tell you this one more time, sudo apt-get install soundconverter
[02:50] <bruenig> KnowledgEngi, it is a nice gui app, very simple to use
[02:50] <TheSilentWarrior> hi, you know that ubuntu font, purisa (looks like hand write), how can i get it for other OS, like windows for example ?
[02:50] <KnowledgEngi> soundconverter do not consent me to convert to mp3
[02:50] <vox754> Somebody (sam) was asking how to set up the sound system and I screwed up badly. So, I have found this page to troubleshoot sound cards and their drivers http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[02:50] <Intangir> says i need avisynth now
[02:51] <KnowledgEngi> becoue mp3 option is unabled
[02:51] <KnowledgEngi> disabled
[02:51] <fushidamn> here give me a moment for me to try it
[02:51] <KnowledgEngi> and i cannot unable it
[02:51] <bruenig> KnowledgEngi, well you need to have installed mp3 support
[02:51] <yurik> cheyenneD its telling me i'm unregistered
[02:51] <bruenig> !restricted | KnowledgEngi
[02:51] <ubotu> KnowledgEngi: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:51] <astroboy> Hi, I've had Ekiga working before but with Ubuntu Edgy Eft during config I get Error Msg: "Impossible to open the selected audio device (Ensoniq Audio PCI) for playing. Please check that your audio setup, the permissions and that the device is not busy." lspci gives me "00:0c.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97]  (rev 08)
[02:51] <astroboy>  " What am I missing here ?
[02:52] <Intangir> ok when i try to play the dvd in gmplayer it complains i need avisynth.dll
[02:52] <saxofoner> KnowledgEngi: Does "unabled" mean enabled or disabled?
[02:52] <juano> nevermind people, solution was chmod 755 ~ as root
[02:52] <bruenig> saxofoner, context
[02:52] <gr0k3m> vox754, yeah, I thought I had universe enabled but I only had it enabled for edgy backports not just straight 'edgy'
[02:52] <gr0k3m> ta
[02:52] <saxofoner> bruenig: (20:51:20) KnowledgEngi: and i cannot unable it
[02:53] <bruenig> saxofoner, yes I know
[02:53] <bruenig> saxofoner, it contradicts
[02:53] <fushidamn> oh yeah, you need the corresponding css dll or whatnot
[02:53] <bruenig> !libdvdcss
[02:53] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:53] <vox754> gr0k3m, good. I like VLC, it is smooth. Although I haven't tested thoroughly
[02:53] <fushidamn> your trying to play an encrypted dvd, that is the problem and why the player is freaking out
[02:53] <Intangir> thx
[02:53] <fushidamn> yeah, what ubotu said
[02:54] <infidel> anyone using their ir port with ubuntu?
[02:54] <saxofoner> ubotu is my homeboy!
[02:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is my homeboy! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:54] <saxofoner> ROFL
[02:54] <CheyenneD> LOL
[02:55] <bruenig> hmm
[02:55] <fushidamn> I forget there are bots in here
[02:55] <gr0k3m> vox754, vlc rules, is there a better movieplayer?
[02:56] <saxofoner> !bots
[02:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bots - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:56] <vox754> Intangir, try different players. I couldn't use gxine, nor totem, but mplayer and vlc work great
[02:56] <bruenig> totem
[02:56] <hope13> um
[02:57] <PORDO> can i remove KDE and still run Qt apps?
[02:57] <hope13> what linux program open .mkv?
[02:57] <vox754> gr0k3m, many guys suggest "mplayer" or "gmplayer"
[02:57] <waterpear> PORDO, sort of
[02:57] <waterpear> if you get rid of kdelibs, no
[02:57] <saxofoner> !who
[02:57] <ubotu> As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say, or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[02:57] <saxofoner> wow
[02:57] <PORDO> can someone give me a nice, stable, official sources.list?
[02:57] <saxofoner> Sorry, I'll stop playing w/ the bots now
[02:57] <PORDO> i can't fine one to save my life.
[02:58] <fushidamn> there seems to be a lot of support for mplayer so that is why a lot of people suggest it, so I guess
[02:58] <hope13> !mkv
[02:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:58] <saxofoner> PORDO:  hold on a sec...
[02:58] <theflyingfool> does anyone know if the evolution junk filter is as good as the one in thunderbird
[02:58] <bruenig> PORDO, what are you running edgy or dapper
[02:58] <gr0k3m> vox754, mplayer is pretty cool... used by XboxMediaCenter which is excellent
[02:59] <saxofoner> http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/  PORDO
[02:59] <hope13> what's the command to dl mplayer?
[02:59] <hope13> sudo get-apt mplayer?
[02:59] <vox754> hope13, yes
[02:59] <bruenig> hope13, sudo apt-get install mplayuer
[02:59] <MybMybMybMyb> mplayer is used by Xbox Media Center??? that thing is sweeeet!
[02:59] <hope13> oh
[02:59] <bruenig> mplayer*
[02:59] <waterpear> it's sudo apt-get install mplayer
[02:59] <hope13> thx
[03:00] <Kilzin> Hello people, I'm trying Ubuntu on the Live CD and I have a little problem. When I launch in Safe Graphics Mode, all goes fine. The problem is when I load in normal mode. X fails to load with the error "No screen found". My videocard is an MSI NX7600GS and I have two screens plugged on it (I use dual screens on Windows). Does anyone have an idea of what could be causing the problem?
[03:00] <waterpear> though you can replace apt-get with aptitude and it'll do almost the same thing
[03:00] <Intelligitimate> I am trying to create a Linux parition on an IMB T22. The Windows partition is messed up and I don't have the XP CD to fix, so I decided to try installing Ubuntu. I keep getting a "failed to create enough space for installation" error, probably because the Windows partition is fragmented. I can't boot into Windows to defrag it. I need some solutions.
[03:01] <PORDO> edgy
[03:01] <PORDO> bruenig
[03:01] <saxofoner> PORDO: http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[03:01] <hope13> Kilzin: maybe your video card is not supported >,> or something
[03:01] <Intangir> i installed libdvdcss and it still wont work
[03:01] <bruenig> PORDO, here is a pretty good sources.list with pretty much all the repos. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38828/
[03:01] <PORDO> some change i just made caused my screen saver to revert to Xscreensaver, without the photo and the nice modern look.
[03:01] <bruenig> all the official repos*
[03:01] <Kilzin> hope13: Does that mean I have to change video cards?
[03:02] <hope13> kilzin: i mean maybe ubuntu doesn't support your video card
[03:02] <avuton> How do I change my default application in ubuntu when I put in an audio cd?
[03:02] <bruenig> Intangir, try this, sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[03:03] <Kilzin> hope13: Exactly, that means if I want ubuntu to work on my comp, I have to change videocards?
[03:03] <yurik> how do i register
[03:03] <bruenig> Intangir, also, sudo apt-get install totem-xine if you haven't already. Then try opening in totem
[03:03] <hope13> Intelligitimate: I think you suppose to re-install window and force it to partition it in two drive; 1 for window the other for linux
[03:03] <PORDO> what is beryl?
[03:03] <yurik> i keep typing /msg nickserv ... and nothing seems to be working
[03:03] <vox754> Kilzin, if you really want to install Ubuntu, give it a try with just one monitor; then you might be able to solve your problem by reconfiguring X.
[03:03] <Intelligitimate> I don't have the CD to reinstall, hope13.
[03:03] <bruenig> Intangir, don't do the sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[03:03] <bruenig> Intangir, I don't know what I was thinking, it won't hurt, just unnecessary
[03:03] <john_> Hello
[03:03] <Kilzin> vox754: Would the graphic interface load if I unplugged one screen?
[03:04] <PORDO> woah..it's a window manager? no way.
[03:04] <kcinna> i'm having trouble playing wmv videos. VLC will play the audio but not the video
[03:04] <vox754> Kilzin, sure, try it first with the Live CD
[03:04] <jengc0il> nothlit:
[03:04] <hope13> Intelligitimate: then it won't work I think; Your Window  format your harddrive as NTFS or whatever and linux uses something else; that's probably why my linux for dummies advise to use window to partition first;
[03:04] <john_> Hey, why everytime i put my wificard to master it gives an error
[03:04] <jengc0il> nothlit:
[03:05] <con-man> john_ because you touch yourself at night
[03:05] <PORDO> how can i get rid of KDE but still have Qt support for apps like Twinkle?
[03:05] <jengc0il> nothlit: i change dapper to edgy in source list
[03:05] <PORDO> con-man hey now.
[03:05] <hope13> Intelligitimate: If you don't want Window and just want Linux; you can erase your whole harddrive
[03:05] <nGen> Can i do to remove XGL and Compiz of my Ubuntu?
[03:05] <Intelligitimate> hope13, I think I can possibly boot up DOS from a CD, and then download a program than can defrag an NTFS from Dos, and then retry the Ubuntu partition.
[03:05] <john_> thats real good help con-man
[03:05] <Goldfisch> kcinna: Did you try using automatix to install the codecs?
[03:05] <bruenig> nGen, #ubuntu-xgl
[03:05] <con-man> its family guy
[03:05] <con-man> havent you guys ever seen family guy
[03:06] <LameBMX> yea
[03:06] <con-man> le sigh
[03:06] <john_> Shaddap Mr scrooge.
[03:06] <bh_> Any pointers to a Ubuntu recovery disk or iso image ? I need to recover a block
[03:06] <kcinna> Goldfisch: nope, will do
[03:06] <nGen> bruenig, thanks
[03:06] <Fjodor> Any ideas why my combo drive won't recognise DVD's? It just gives "no medium found"
[03:07] <hope13> Intelligitimate: I'mma read my linux for dummies book for a sec mm
[03:07] <PORDO> that source-o-matic thing is awesome.
[03:08] <bruenig> Fjodor, hardware failure is on idea that I have
[03:08] <john_> So yeah, how can i fix my wifi card, It wont go to master.
[03:08] <bruenig> s/on/one
[03:08] <CheyenneD> How do I start the vnc server and can i use a vnc client
[03:09] <john_> I wanna use my Laptop as a Access Point.
[03:09] <PORDO> where do i get the gpg keys for my sourceomatic list?
[03:09] <borg> anybody know a thing or two about firefox and themes where the buttons have too much extra padding around them?
[03:09] <magic_ninja> if umount says device or resource busy is there a way to workaroudn it
[03:09] <bh_> Does anybody have a pointer to a small recovery image ?
[03:09] <bruenig> PORDO, they are in the list. They should be in comments right above the respective repository
[03:09] <PORDO> oh duh, it's in the list.
[03:10] <Fjodor> bruenig: Could be, but I found some entries the other day on google suggesting a kernel upgrade. Just wanted to hear if anyone knew about it
[03:10] <vox754> bh_, what do you mean by that "recovery image", recovery for what?
[03:10] <kcinna> Goldfisch: arg, same deal
[03:10] <Goldfisch> bh_: The Live CD can be used as a recovery disk. Do you not have one? It is the same CD (since dapper) also used to install ubuntu.
[03:10] <bh_> for recovery of a boot sector so that I can get grub back
[03:10] <bruenig> Fjodor, maybe, I just know that my combo drive had failure where it couldn't see cds anymore, bought a new drive, works great
[03:11] <bh_> if I can boot into ubuntu I should be able to reinstall grub
[03:11] <CheyenneD> borg: What re you trying to do in Firefox?
[03:11] <Fjodor> bruenig: Fair enough. Thing is, it's a brand new laptop
[03:11] <kitche> bh_: you cna do that with the live cd
[03:11] <bh_> anything small than that ?
[03:11] <borg> CheyenneD, it seems like all the good compact themes in firefox before 2.0 now have too much button padding in the navigation bar in 2.0
[03:11] <borg> makes them look ugly
[03:12] <bh_> I've had a lot of problem with this portable and the live cd, but I didn't with networking CD
[03:12] <saxofoner> Is there a good channel for wacom tablets?  heheh #wacom doesn't work...
[03:12] <Goldfisch> kcinna: My list of automatix multimedia installed's include => AUD-DVD codecs, flash player, listen media manager, mplayer and ff plugin, media players, multimedia codecs, and realplayer.
[03:12] <fushidamn> what is\ wacom
[03:13] <CheyenneD> borg: you looking for a small theme
[03:13] <borg> ya CheyenneD
[03:13] <siarhei> hi all, can anyone help me with nVidia driver? Got GeForce 7300 GT PCI-E. X server crashes
[03:13] <kitche> fushidamn, a touch screen or a artist pad on tablet pcs
[03:13] <Intelligitimate> Bad news, I don't think I can get to DOS with XP. There is only a recovery console that comes with the XP disk.
[03:13] <kcinna> Goldfisch: yeah, mine has all those listed too
[03:13] <vox754> bh_, the Knoppix Live CD supports lots of hardware, maybe you could use it to install grub
[03:13] <fushidamn> thanks
[03:14] <thehumanerror> Does anyone use SoundConverter?
[03:14] <Stormx2> merry boxing day
[03:14] <thehumanerror> it's one of the "extra" GNOME programs
[03:14] <thehumanerror> yeh, that
[03:14] <bh_> vox754 what about a small image ?
[03:14] <fushidamn> intelligitimate....that works, if you can get into the recovery console
[03:14] <surfbuddy> can anyone have a look at my problem pleeease ; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=324902
[03:14] <Zell> hello world!
[03:14] <Intelligitimate> I can't, fushidawn.
[03:14] <hope13> intelligitimate does your window os work?
[03:14] <hope13> lol
[03:14] <kitche> bh_: the smallest iso you can get is probably sysrescuecd
[03:14] <fushidamn> intelligitimate, but I think you said earlier that you dont have the cd
[03:15] <Intelligitimate> No, hope13.
[03:15] <Intelligitimate> And I don't have the disk.
[03:15] <PORDO> help. gpg --export --armor 437D05B5 | sudo apt-key add
[03:15] <PORDO> gpg: can't open `': No such file or directory
[03:15] <hope13> Intelligitimate: are you trying to fix window?
[03:15] <Zell> !list
[03:15] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:15] <fushidamn> my best suggestion is borrow a cd from somone you know...it has to be the same...pro or home as yours
[03:15] <cafuego_> PORDO: you need to add a - to that coomand
[03:15] <Intelligitimate> Windows doesn't work, it is fragmented so I can't partition the drive, and I don't have the CD. It won't boot in any safe mode or anything.
[03:15] <cafuego_>  gpg --export --armor 437D05B5 | sudo apt-key add -
[03:15] <bh_> kitche where can I get that
[03:15] <bh_> ?
[03:15] <Intelligitimate> Yes, hope13.
[03:15] <PORDO> cafuego_ ah!
[03:15] <vox754> bh_, Maybe you could set a floppy disk with grub on it and use it to repair what you want. That floppy would be a "small image"
[03:16] <Intelligitimate> Or at least put something I can use (ubuntu) on the drive, hope13.
[03:16] <bh_> vox754 a couple of MB is ok as well, this is a slow DSL line
[03:16] <N3m0> can i use windows datafiles like music, divx, porns on kubuntu guys ?
[03:16] <saxofoner> porns?
[03:16] <bh_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[03:16] <saxofoner> sure
[03:16] <saxofoner> ...
[03:16] <Zell> time to read the help
[03:16] <bh_> What about that ?
[03:16] <avuton> How do I change my default application in ubuntu when I put in an audio cd?
[03:16] <N3m0> i'm new :p
[03:16] <hope13> Intelligitimate: Do you know how your window got mess up?
[03:16] <siarhei> can anyone help me out with nvidia drivers?
[03:16] <Intelligitimate> No I don't, hope13.
[03:16] <Zell> same here N3m0
[03:16] <N3m0> well... i was on windows 20 minutes ago so i mean "real" new ^^
[03:17] <hope13> Intelligitimate: You can't go to safe mode and then system restore window?
[03:17] <LameBMX> N3m0, yes you can
[03:17] <Goldfisch> I don't think "fragmented" is the term used for unbootable. Maybe "corrupted" is more accurate. Fragmented just means files are lining up inside contiguous sectors of disk space. Can you boot from a Live CD, mount the windows partition and recover any files?
[03:17] <LameBMX> welcome N3m0
[03:17] <vox754> bh_, yeah, we forgot about that. When you have a fast connection you don't care to much about downloading entire DVD images
[03:17] <LameBMX> im new myself
[03:17] <kitche> bh_: http://www.sysresccd.org/
[03:17] <Intelligitimate> How do I mount the Windows partition, Goldfisch?
[03:17] <cafuego_> vox754: weeellll they still take MINUTES to download ;-)
[03:17] <lasindi_office> Hi all, I'm running Xubuntu 6.06.1, and I'm trying to get a Netgear WG111v2 wireless card running. I've gone through this guide (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=212365) and everything appears to work except that when I do dhclient on the card, I don't get an IP address. Any ideas?
[03:18] <N3m0> Ty LameBMX
[03:18] <LameBMX> N3m0,  you may want to snag vlc media player ..
[03:18] <Intelligitimate> No, hope13. Nothing works like that. Not rebooting from last good boot or anything. Safe mode with command line doesn't even boot.
[03:18] <Zell> Hey i'm new too lol
[03:18] <Goldfisch> Do you know which physical partition windows is on? And are you using a SATA drive, or ATA?
[03:18] <Nontitle> N3m0: what are porns?
[03:18] <CheyenneD> How do I start the vnc server and can i use a vnc client?
[03:18] <pkh> is pptp the best option to set up a vpn between ubuntu/winxp clients and an ubuntu server?
[03:18] <vox754> lasindi_office, maybe is the router.
[03:18] <N3m0> LameBMX i'm new also on IRC so i don't know how to answer with that red stuff of you
[03:18] <Intelligitimate> I don't know, Goldfisch. It is a IBM ThinkPad T22.
[03:18] <saxofoner> Intelligitimate: Whenever i access my windows part. thru ubuntu, and then boot windows, I get sasser worm symptoms.  I wouldn't reccomend it...
[03:18] <cafuego_> pkh: No, but it's the easiest way.
[03:18] <LameBMX> N3m0, it worked right out of the box ... goto synaptic package manager .. search for vlc .. get vlcplayer
[03:18] <N3m0> Nontitle ==> Porn is a bug
[03:18] <saxofoner> And no, I don't have sasser
[03:18] <FeliLixTKhat> Intelligitmate... Perhaps You might find the freedos wed site useful. www.freedos.org.  If you can't boot, and do not have any system disks, you could boot DOS and try repairing your Windows partition with the tools available on their site.
[03:18] <Nontitle> oh
[03:19] <fushidamn> no, it is not boot from last good, it is really boot from last boot intelligitimate, that does not mean it was good
[03:19] <pkh> cafuego_, that sounds like what I'm after...
[03:19] <LameBMX> N3m0,  its red when you put their nick in it and in a chan like this it helps to see who is talking to who
[03:19] <Intelligitimate> You can't boot DOS with XP, FeliLixTKhat. XP isn't like Windows 98, it doesn't sit on top of DOS.
[03:19] <Goldfisch> Well, you can figure out the partition layout of any drive by typing: sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda
[03:19] <hope13> >,>
[03:19] <CheyenneD> How do I start the vnc server and can i use a vnc client?
[03:20] <lasindi_office> vox754: no, I've tried turning encryption off on the router as well, and still no luck.
[03:20] <Nontitle> xp, 2000 and nt don't use dos, 95, 98 and Me do
[03:20] <LameBMX> N3m0, search the wiki for ntfs-3g @ wiki.ubuntu.com
[03:20] <Goldfisch> The device /dev/hda maps to the first ATA disk drive in your system. /dev/hdb is the second, and so forth. SATA drives usually go /dev/sda, /dev/sdb, etc.
[03:20] <N3m0> i'll do
[03:20] <cafuego_> Nontitle: as does 3.11, wfw and 3.1
[03:20] <N3m0> ty very much for the answers
[03:20] <hope13> Intelligitimate: If you can't fix window xp; the Ubuntu cd can completely erase your harddrive and install Ubuntu >,>
[03:20] <Nontitle> wfw?
[03:20] <LameBMX> N3m0, so you can access what is on your ntfs partition (windows)
[03:20] <Goldfisch> fdisk -l just dumps out the partition layout, without going into any partition edit mode.
[03:20] <lasindi_office> CheyenneD: Go to System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop to configure vino (the VNC server)
[03:20] <vox754> lasindi_office, use a static IP, maybe that'll work
[03:21] <Goldfisch> Maybe ubuntu has some GUI for looking up partition information, but I know the CLI way of doing things.
[03:21] <lasindi_office> vox754: afraid that doesn't work either; I'm pretty certain the issue is with my card specifically
[03:21] <N3m0> LameBMW , I think it's fat32 but i'm sure 100%
[03:21] <N3m0> not
[03:21] <Robinator> I just wanted to installed "apache2"  and there is a package which has to be REMOVED ... this fact makes me worry.  Please look at this:  http://pastebin.com/844952
[03:21] <Intelligitimate> Typing that in the command line doesn't tell me anything I can make sense of, Goldfisch. What exactly tells me whether it is ATA or SATA?
[03:21] <Goldfisch> Intelligimate: My thinking is also, mount the windows partition, recover what data files you want, and then consider wiping it for an ubuntu installation. Don't know what your home usage requirements are, exactly.
[03:22] <vox754> lasindi_office, didn't you say it worked?
[03:22] <thehumanerror> Ubuntu doesn't have a GUI tool for looking up the partition information any more, it got removed in 6.10
[03:22] <lasindi_office> vox754: no, I meant that when I actually try to use the card to connect, I can't (which in this case means I can't get an IP address)
[03:22] <Intelligitimate> This is not my computer, Goldfisch. The person would be willing to use Ubuntu, but he wants to recover some important files at least.
[03:22] <PORDO> why is there no gstreamer vorbis for 0.10?  i can't play vorbis?!
[03:23] <Goldfisch> Intelligitimate: SATA drives have a smaller connecting cable, compare to ATA, which uses the wide, thin ribbon cable inside the case. SATA mean Serial ATA drive. See => http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.usb-ware.com/images/7-pin-sata-cable.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.usb-ware.com/sata-cables.htm&h=185&w=200&sz=10&tbnid=rUJ5nwDX2TAOOM:&tbnh=96&tbnw=104&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsata%2Bcable&start=1&sa=X&oi=images&ct=image&cd=1
[03:23] <Intelligitimate> I can't get in the case of the labtop very easily, Goldfisch.
[03:23] <Goldfisch> Duh, sorry, I didn't notice you were talking about laptop.
[03:23] <fushidamn> Goldfisch:  I think intelligitimate was talking about how to tell the difference from the shell output, not physically
[03:24] <vox754> lasindi_office, then I'm telling you, don't wait for the router to give you an address, you set it static and see the results
[03:24] <thehumanerror> Intelligitimate, you could try browsing System > Device Manager and looking at the ATA controller in the computer, Device Manager might pull some information that'll help
[03:24] <axelf> hihi, I kinda screwed up my ubuntu install, nothing it really working, is there an apt command I can use to reinstall everything?
[03:24] <borg> does anyone know why firefox gives too much padding to it's buttons in the nagivation bar?
[03:24] <vox754> PORDO, vorbis is a free codec, it should be supported by every Linux player
[03:24] <borg> anyone know how i can fix that properly with userChrome.css?
[03:25] <thehumanerror> you can have my userChrome.css if you like :)
[03:25] <axelf> (I installed ok and has been working fine for a month I just broke it
[03:25] <LameBMX> Intelligitimate, fdisk -l
[03:25] <borg> yes can i have yours, thehumanerror ?
[03:25] <LameBMX> will tell you all partitions ... if they are sda sda
[03:25] <thehumanerror> oh yeah :)
[03:25] <Intelligitimate> I did that already. I'm not sure what the shell output is supposed to tell me how I know what kind of drive it is.
[03:25] <thehumanerror> I didn't think of that...
[03:25] <lasindi_office> vox754: right, but I'm saying that doesn't work either; the only reason I'm mentioning the IP address is because that is normally the last step. But even if I assign it a static IP, I can't talk to the rest of the network.
[03:25] <Intelligitimate> Or why that matters.
[03:25] <vox754> axelf, just use again the Live CD to format everything
[03:25] <LameBMX> then its sata (unless the lappy is a mac .. then its scsi
[03:25] <LameBMX> and mac's dont use ide anyways
[03:25] <thehumanerror> uhm, not since about 1992
[03:26] <thehumanerror> as far as I know
[03:26] <LameBMX> hda1 hda2 ... IDE
[03:26] <hope13> How do I play .mkv files? Mplayer & VLC doesn't work .
[03:26] <LameBMX> sda1 sda1 ... sata
[03:26] <thehumanerror> but your advice is sound
[03:26] <Intelligitimate> It says hda1.
[03:26] <Goldfisch> I have a sample dumped out on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38830/. I have both an ATA drive and a SATA drive. You just need to try /dev/hda, /dev/sda, until you hit some paydirt.
[03:26] <FeliLixTKhat> Intelligitimate.... besides DOS, there's DSL (Damn Small Linux) and Puppy Linux..... Both are under 50 Meg in size for the complete system.  If your Motherboard's BIOS can boot from USB these Linux systems can be loaded on a USB memory stick, or burned to a CD ROM. either way they they loop your windows file system so at least you can have access to your Windows drive.
[03:26] <borg> thehumanerror, can i have your userChrome.css file?
[03:27] <vox754> hope13, they should work, I've read people using them without trouble. Look under options or preferences for mplayer
[03:27] <SilentDis> happy Chrismahanukwanzakah everyone :)
[03:27] <mboso> anyone know how to use gtkpod to update my ipod's SysInfo file with the correct version number?
[03:27] <Intelligitimate> How do I access my Windows partition?
[03:28] <SilentDis> Intelligitimate, what format is it?  ntfs or fat32?
[03:28] <Intelligitimate> NTFS.
[03:28] <Goldfisch> Intelligimate: After you find the partition, you can do something like => mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows  <= This requires you find out which partition windows is on (it may not be /dev/hda1).
[03:28] <cody> Hi there, Is ther anyone that can help me with dual booting with winXP? I am faitly new to Linux.
[03:28] <Goldfisch> Intelligimate: Once you mount it, you can see everything underneath the tree structure of /mnt/windows.
[03:28] <SilentDis> Intelligitimate, you should be able to just mount it outright.  you won't be able to write to it, but you can read from it just fine
[03:28] <FeliLixTKhat> HI Cody
[03:28] <Nontitle> windows is fat, linux is phat
[03:29] <borg> lol
[03:29] <vox754> cody, lots of good guides in the forums, wait I'll search a few
[03:29] <FeliLixTKhat> Cody .... Need to have Windows XP installed first.
[03:29] <cody> Hi FeliLixTKhat
[03:29] <thehumanerror> Anyone use SoundConverter?
[03:29] <bh_> ok I have a minimal installation disk. What do I do to get it to boot the kernel but with a different root mount point ?
[03:29] <cody> got that done
[03:29] <SilentDis> !mount | Intelligitimate
[03:29] <ubotu> Intelligitimate: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[03:29] <cody> I am using the desktop CD
[03:29] <SilentDis> !info soundconverter
[03:29] <ubotu> soundconverter: convert sound files to other formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 48 kB, installed size 300 kB
[03:29] <Goldfisch> Intelligimate: Oh, and you probably need some mount point for that: sudo mkdir /mnt/windows, and you have to "sudo" the mount command itself.
[03:29] <cody> and I am at the mounting section
[03:30] <FeliLixTKhat> Do you have enough extra room on your dive to load an entire Linux System? .... Probably need at least 6 Gig free minimum.
[03:30] <magic_ninja> brb rebooting
[03:30] <SilentDis> thehumanerror, i'm installing it now and poking at it...
[03:30] <cody> Yes, I have 4 partition set up, NTFS, ext3, swap, fat32
[03:31] <Intelligitimate> I don't think this will help much though, because there is only one partition, and I can't write to it from Linux. I have to be able to send the data somewhere, and there is no CD-burner to store any of the data. I need to get the wireless card working so I can access my network, to send the important files to my computer from his.
[03:31] <Goldfisch> I guess I'm not adapted to using all the nice gui tools to manage my system. The command line stuff tends to be more universal across distributions, and even *niix'es.
[03:31] <cody> pre set up
[03:31] <Intelligitimate> I am using the Live Cd at the moment.
[03:31] <cody> I basically just want to make sure that I dont wipe out my NTFS partition
[03:31] <Goldfisch> Intelligimate: Do you have any type of flash stick or USB drive? That is another alternative. Part of it depends on how much we are talking about recovering.
[03:31] <FeliLixTKhat> What Linux distirbution are you installing Cody?
[03:32] <Intelligitimate> No, Goldfisch.
[03:32] <SilentDis> thehumanerror, what do you need to know.  the program looks pretty straightforward :)
[03:32] <vox754> cody, it won't do anything if you don't check "format"
[03:32] <cody> Edgy Eft
[03:32] <chrislfxp> Anyone worked with Zimbra?
[03:32] <SilentDis> chrislfxp, gonna poke ubotu on that one, never herd of it.
[03:32] <Stormx2> chrislfxp: What is that?
[03:32] <SilentDis> !zimbra
[03:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zimbra - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:33] <bh_> Can I use a minimal installion disk and the kernel off of it to boot a ubuntu installation ? if so then how would I specify that on the command line ?
[03:33] <Nontitle> i'm upgrading to Edgy in about 20 minutes
[03:33] <Stormx2> !info zimbra
[03:33] <ubotu> Package zimbra does not exist in any distro I know
[03:33] <saxofoner> Nontitle:  Turn off the update notifier...
[03:33] <chrislfxp> http://www.zimbra.com/
[03:33] <chrislfxp> It's a groupware / mail server software package
[03:33] <Nontitle> what?
[03:33] <zch`> anyone cares to help me out with my routing problem? im running pvpgn server on ubuntu box for couple of friends, they can connect and play just fine, but i am unable to create any games, and when i join a game i often cant see others typing, and there is terrible lag involved, i've read about that issue on pvpgn forums, and it appears to be problem with port forwarding (my linux box also serves as a router for my windows box) i found this script which should su
[03:33] <Goldfisch> Intelligitimate: My Dad spotted a 2G flash stick at Best Buy last week for $40. It may be worth it to go get one. That should give you some flexibility. I have flash thumb drives many times in the past to work on systems.
[03:33] <vox754> cody, I guess NTFS is for WinXP, then ext3 for / (root), a swap, and fat32 for data
[03:33] <SilentDis> chrislfxp, one moment, hitting google :)
[03:33] <Intelligitimate> How can I get the wireless card working?
[03:33] <chrislfxp> It's not included in the repositories
[03:34] <cody> I am manually preparing the mount points. I have /media/hda1, /, swap, and media/hda5
[03:34] <Stormx2> zch`: I've seen you ask that before. Have you tried ubuntuforums.org?
[03:34] <zch`> nope, thanks for the tip
[03:34] <FeliLixTKhat> Ok... as vox754 said, as long as you don't check format. it will leave it alone.  Also, make sure that you don't choose erase entire drive, obviously that erase it all.
[03:34] <cody> when I try to continue I get no root file system
[03:34] <saxofoner> Nontitle: I tried to upgrade the other day, and I got fatally screwed over because the update manager interrupted the download.  Had to reinstall from scratch
[03:34] <SilentDis> zimbra is, apparently, an open source server/client IM program or something?
[03:34] <Nontitle> ouch
[03:35] <gouki> !zimbra
[03:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zimbra - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:35] <Nontitle> i'm installing fresh then copying my backup files onto it
[03:35] <Intelligitimate> Goldfisch: is there anyway I can get my wireless working to send the files somewhere else?
[03:35] <chrislfxp> Zimbra is at http://www.zimbra.com
[03:35] <Nontitle> is zimbra good?
[03:36] <chrislfxp> I'll see if there is a zimbra group on IRC
[03:36] <Kilzin> Hello people, I'm trying the Live CD and I have a little problem. Everything works fine in Safe Graphics Mode but the normal mode can't load X. I have an MSI NX7600GS videocard and a ViewSonic screen. Earlier, I had a second screen plugged into the Video Card and I used to get the error "No screen found". Now, when X sends the error, I get a blue and red screen on which I can't type and then the console opens. If I press Ctrl+Alt+F7 I get a black screen with
[03:36] <FeliLixTKhat> My system is dual boot WIn2000 on a 12 Gig laptop drive 6 Gig for Windows on hda1 6 Gig for Linux 502 Meg for swap 4.1 for the root file system and 1.6 Gig for my Home directory.
[03:36] <Nontitle> #zimbra has 6 people in it
[03:36] <Nontitle> sorry, 7
[03:37] <jstpaul> ?I was just talking to someone about Zimbra. He said he liked the web interface better than owa, but he said he saw performce problems when users had +2GB mailboxes
[03:37] <Goldfisch> Intelligitimate: Not sure. Depends on the card model and all that good stuff. Whenever I shop for wireless cards, I always do a lot of homework to make sure there is documented compatability.
[03:37] <SilentDis> chrislfxp, i've never herd of nor used Zimbra.  the only info I know is what is up on their website.  sorry :(
[03:37] <nny> woah
[03:37] <cody> FeliLixTKhat or vox754, any help with this, I am trying to go to the next step in the "prepare mount points" section and I get "no root file system" errir
[03:37] <cody> error
[03:38] <jengc0il> nothlit: hi
[03:38] <jengc0il> how to install xwindow
[03:38] <nny> holy werid annoying bug.. i just did sudo apt-get remove librsvg2-bin librsvg2-common librsvg2-dev libglitz-glx1 libglitz-glx1-dev
[03:38] <nny>  and about 30 gnome packages got removed for no reason
[03:38] <jengc0il> !startx
[03:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about startx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:38] <Nontitle> !gdm
[03:38] <ubotu> gdm: GNOME Display Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.1-0ubuntu4.1 (edgy), package size 1687 kB, installed size 12300 kB
[03:38] <jengc0il> !x
[03:38] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:38] <nny> anyone wanna clairfy how to fix this ?
[03:39] <Intelligitimate> Goldfisch: I have no idea what this one is. It doesn't have a name on it.
[03:39] <nny> like gnome terminal got removed
[03:39] <Kilzin> Noone has an idea of how to fix my problem described not so long ago?
[03:39] <bsnider> nny: they were dependencies of the packages you requested to be removed
[03:39] <Nontitle> nny: if you know what programs got removed, add them back, all the files needed will come back
[03:39] <Nontitle> they got removed because they were needed
[03:40] <Goldfisch> Intelligitimate: Well, either "lspci -v" or "lsusb -v" may turn up some information. Can't remember if cardbus/pcmcia reports on either of those commands.
[03:40] <bsnider> nny: try apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:40] <nny> I dont
[03:40] <jengc0il> :)
[03:40] <FeliLixTKhat> Cody. If I read what you typed correctly, You need to reset the partition information.
[03:40] <Nontitle> what apt-get command do you use to reinstall a package?
[03:40] <vox754> cody, You need to match the " / " mount point with the ext3 partition, something like "/dev/sda3"
[03:40] <nny> that seems to be the ones.. heh
[03:40] <bsnider> nny: basically, you removed gnome
[03:40] <fushidamn> haha....the required dependencies were found, so there were removed
[03:40] <nny> so wait, why would those package's deps get removed if they are required by other programs?
[03:40] <nny> lol
[03:40] <Intelligitimate> It is a PCMCIA network card, Goldfisch.
[03:41] <bsnider> nny: but ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage that contains all of it
[03:41] <cody> cox754, I have that matched up
[03:41] <cody> vox754
[03:41] <nny> yeah couldn't remeber the name, tried the kde version a while back and just apt-get the whole thing
[03:41] <SilentDis> nny:  just reading over some of those package descriptions... you just effectivly nutered the gnome desktop to a point of non-working.  you'll need to sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop to get it all back to functional, probably.
[03:41] <LameBMX> i think pcm is susposed to list under lspci
[03:41] <fushidamn> nny: no probably one program needed them gone while another needed them
[03:41] <borg> thanks guys, now my firefox looks compact again, i was looking for this ---> http://userstyles.org/style/show/454
[03:42] <Goldfisch> Guys, what is the command to interrogate pcmcia? I don't have a laptop in front of me check the man pages.
[03:42] <LameBMX> a buddy of mine had an adapter card and it really dont have any chips on it so i think its the same bus
[03:42] <jengc0il> error
[03:42] <LameBMX> just a different looking connector
[03:42] <vox754> cody, post a picture or something about your partition scheme. Applications -> Accessories
[03:42] <nny> yeah i figured that... my fault for reflexively hitting "yes"... heh was gonna try cairo-(gnome)dock, but figured adding xgl/xompiz etc was a bit much for an aplet bar
[03:42] <jmon> I need to run itunes (ipod updater) on edgey, the people in wine wont talk on xmas (merry xmas all)  ne1 want to help out?
[03:43] <SilentDis> nny:  lol, there's a meta-package available to fix it.  ubuntu-desktop
[03:43] <nny> LameBMX lspci?
[03:43] <LameBMX> im pretty sure
[03:43] <nny> SilentDis, yeah just installed it
[03:43] <cody> that will take me a while, I dont have networking running on it at the moment
[03:43] <LameBMX> but again i could be wrong
[03:43] <fushidamn> Goldfisch: cardct1
[03:43] <LameBMX> im still a nix n00b
[03:43] <sam> Hey guys, im still trying to figure out the sound issue with my laptop i just re-installed xp to see if it works and it does and I've re-installed ubuntu sound still doesn't work, please someone help me.
[03:43] <LameBMX> heck i cant even get my monitor to stop goin into sleep mode
[03:44] <LameBMX> have fun with that one sam ... you know what kind of sound chip it uses?
[03:44] <nny> heh i am grateful half the stuff i know about linux has since been replaced by easier methods.. not that i don't mind knowing them.. like trying to use dos commands.. i still do when i have to
[03:44] <cody> vox74, I found something in the forums, apparently there is a bug in the installer
[03:44] <LameBMX> crap my lappy is outside or id test lspci with the live cd
[03:44] <fushidamn> sorry cardctl (damn them making their 1's and l's look alike)
[03:44] <nny> anyone effectively gotten esd or the like to work?
[03:45] <nny> aka being able to play xmms and a game tc
[03:45] <nny> etc*
[03:45] <Goldfisch> Intelligitimate: Well, either lspci or cardctl is your ticket. Try those out and see if you get some info on your network card.
[03:45] <vox754> cody, post the link so I can check it down
[03:45] <craigbass1976> Ho Ho Ho
[03:45] <cody> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1700787&postcount=29
[03:46] <nny> tried the asound.conf thing, never actually worked.. i had the esd listed in my config, working, but the sound device could still only handle one thing at a time
[03:46] <nny> !esd
[03:46] <ubotu> esd is the enlightened sound deamon. It's deprecated, use !alsa instead
[03:46] <LameBMX> well sound worked fine during my installer .... just cant figure out how to use both pcm and spdif output lol
[03:46] <SilentDis> nny:  i run xmms in the background almost all the time... and i play doom3/ut2k4/cedega with it.  i haven't noticed any issues... what is esd?
[03:46] <nny> enlightenment sound dameon, see i thought that was fixed in alsa
[03:46] <FeliLixTKhat> Cody.  depending on which partition you want to use as your root partition.  The Ubuntu installer is a bit confusing, owing to the fact that it fills in the mount points just as you identified /media/hda1/.    Becareful here!!! You need to make sure that /media/hda1/ is not one of your Windows partitions.  If it is and your format it. Not only will in not work for Linux, but you will destroy Windows as well.
[03:46] <sam> nny: maybe u can help me with my sound?
[03:46] <SilentDis> MarvinTheParanoi, 42?
[03:46] <nny> sam whats the problem>
[03:46] <FordPrefect> lol
[03:46] <Kilzin> Hello people, I'm trying the Live CD and I have a little problem. Everything works fine in Safe Graphics Mode but the normal mode can't load X. I have an MSI NX7600GS videocard and a ViewSonic screen. Earlier, I had a second screen plugged into the Video Card and I used to get the error "No screen found". Now, when X sends the error, I get a blue and red screen on which I can't type and then the console opens. If I press Ctrl+Alt+F7 I get a black screen with
[03:47] <communico> hi all - just wondering if someone could give me a few pointers. The internet isn't working on my ubuntu installation. I can ping google.com fine through termianl, but the browser and irc chat client will not work
[03:47] <craigbass1976> Hey, my son got an mp3 player for Christmas today.  Do any of you know (save me wading around all the junk sites if you do) if a place where you can download music for free?  Legally?  Like maybe where bands who are just trying to make a name for themselves are pinning up songs for the general public?
[03:47] <FordPrefect> there are a ton of people in ##php with names from Hitchhikers guide
[03:47] <sam> nny: i just installed ubuntu 6.6 dapper and I've done the updates etc but it act like its playing but there is no sound
[03:47] <sam> no errors to go off of
[03:47] <Intelligitimate> Goldfisch: I am not sure what I am looking at.
[03:47] <cody> If it wasn't for one game I wouldnt care if I wiped out XP
[03:47] <vox754> sam
[03:47] <cody> but we will save that battle for later
[03:47] <LameBMX> what game cody
[03:47] <Goldfisch> Intelligitimate: Paste it into http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and then post a link on this channel.
[03:48] <cody> DOD
[03:48] <craigbass1976> communico, is it an installed version of Ubuntu, or you're running off the cd?
[03:48] <SilentDis> craigbass1976, well... it's not free... but i use eMusic personally.  $10/month gets you 40 songs, all DRM free (real MP3 files)
[03:48] <sam> vox754: yes?
[03:48] <saxofoner> Anybody know how to find the wacom tablet preferences?
[03:48] <vox754> cody, yes looks like a bug, nothing to do...
[03:48] <communico> craig, it's an installed version of ubuntu
[03:48] <saxofoner> PPPLLLLEEEEAASSSEEE?
[03:48] <LameBMX> i heard valve games run good under cegega
[03:48] <LameBMX> cody ^^^
[03:48] <vox754> sam, I found a guide for troubleshooting sound card
[03:48] <SilentDis> saxofoner, what problem are you having, i must have missed your question
[03:48] <sam> vox754: can I have it?
[03:48] <craigbass1976> SilentDis, that's for regular music though, right? Things that are getting played on stations other than colege radio?
[03:48] <cody> LaneBMX Day of Defeat
[03:48] <Goldfisch> Kilzin: You may to pick through /var/log/Xorg.log to see what went wrong.
[03:48] <Nontitle> well i'm going to install Edgy Edgy Eftination
[03:48] <Intelligitimate> Goldfisch, I can't copy and paste...unless I manually typed out everything. Is there something specific I should look for?
[03:48] <Riyonuk> I downloaded ubuntu 6.10 alternate and burned it. I then tried to install it but got about 12 errors saying it couldnt find some files and that the kernal couldnt be installed. Something about files being corrupt or my CD corrupt. My cd is clean, what gives? I even burned it at 4x
[03:48] <LameBMX> yea .. isnt that the half life mod cody
[03:49] <craigbass1976> communico, that's wild.  Lemme think...
[03:49] <cody> LameBMX, it is
[03:49] <Nontitle> Riyonuk: there should be an option to check the cd
[03:49] <LameBMX> cody, and its not based on the new source engine
[03:49] <LameBMX> correct
[03:49] <cody> correct
[03:49] <craigbass1976> communico, does apt-get work? Are you able to install software?
[03:49] <SilentDis> craigbass1976, they've got a TON of indie labels signed up to them.  awesome jazz selection, excellent classical music selection too.  their live stuff is better than anything i've seen on iTunes and the like as well
[03:49] <saxofoner> SilentDis:   I'm trying to change settings on my tablet, to use the pen on only one monitor
[03:49] <mboso> anyone know how to use gtkpod to update my ipod's SysInfo file?
[03:49] <theflyingfool> does anyone know how to make an install disk that will have all the programs i have on my desktop installed by default
[03:49] <saxofoner> Can't find ANY settings
[03:49] <Riyonuk> Nontitle, it did and it gave me some more errors
[03:50] <Goldfisch> Intelligitimate: I don't have a laptop in front of me to run these commands, so I'm not sure what you are seeing. You want to find some indication of a network-based card like "802.11" and then some type of vendor/model number in close proximity. Are you in console mode, being the reason you can't cut-and-paste?
[03:50] <LameBMX> http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/games/view.mhtml?game_id=3949
[03:50] <Nontitle> oh
[03:50] <communico> craig, i'll try it. is there anything simple you could think of that I could try downloading
[03:50] <LameBMX> oh heck they got dod source working it looks like cody
[03:50] <Nontitle> maybe you should try burning it again if you have any more cds
[03:50] <vox754> sam, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound wait, I found something more specific, but closed it after you left
[03:50] <sam> ;/
[03:50] <SilentDis> saxofoner, hmm... never used such a thing.  i assume you went through a setup on said machine to use the touch interface as a mouse or some such?
[03:50] <FeliLixTKhat> Cody, when the install disk first ran the Partition Manager program, How did you set the partitions "ie" did you set aside 500 Meg for swap, 20 Gig the Linux Root and say maybe 10 Gig for your Home Partition of something similar?
[03:50] <Riyonuk> one cd :( unless the ubuntu cd's they shipped are RW :)
[03:50] <Intelligitimate> Well, I guess I could connect to it with putty to cut and paste, Goldfisch.
[03:50] <sam> well thanks for the doc god I hope it helps
[03:51] <craigbass1976> apt-get install xmms
[03:51] <Intelligitimate> But I don't see anything like "802.11"
[03:51] <LameBMX> cody ... http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/games/view.mhtml?game_id=2783
[03:51] <sam> vox754: wait i've already went threw that doc
[03:51] <sam> :/
[03:51] <craigbass1976> communico, apt-get install xmms
[03:51] <Goldfisch> Intelligimate: What is your current mode of operation? I don't understand how you are operation things right now.
[03:51] <cody> LameBMX, thanks for the link, I will see if I can get that working later
[03:51] <Intelligitimate> The laptop is sitting right beside me, Goldfisch.
[03:51] <LameBMX> yea cedega is a pay for app cody .... but when i had it it did a really good job
[03:52] <Goldfisch> Intelligimate: Okay. What command did you precisely type?
[03:52] <LameBMX> you can also check for it running under wine ...
[03:52] <cody> FeliLixTKhat, I have about 15GB for /, 1GB for swap
[03:52] <Intelligitimate> lspci, Goldfisch.
[03:52] <LameBMX> cody ... you may also want to email valve about using nix for it ...
[03:52] <Riyonuk> Ok, I have an idea, since I can install 5.10, can I load ubuntu and upgrade it, like windows update?
[03:52] <LameBMX> cuz i dont know how it will do for your account and how picky valve is about things since hl2 got leaked
[03:53] <LameBMX> so now whats keepin ya on windows cody
[03:53] <LameBMX> :P
[03:53] <nny2> heh
[03:53] <cody> LameBMX, I am just installing Linux for the first time on a laptop
[03:53] <gregcha117> I'm in need of some help from somoene.... i was in the middle of downloading a dvd on my mounted windows drive, and apparently i ran out of space, i tryed deleting some files and realized they just disappeared but no space was freed up and now i cant start windows and the mounted drive disappeared :|
[03:53] <vox754> sam, which parts you tried? "aplay" and stuff
[03:53] <nny2> sam sorry
[03:53] <LameBMX> cody, its all good im just razzin ya
[03:53] <SilentDis> only real problem with cedega under Ubuntu Edgy right now is you have to link sh back to bash in order for it to function :P
[03:53] <LameBMX> im a nix noob myself
[03:53] <cody> LameBMX, so I need to be able to get everything else up and running first, and I am too cheap to pay
[03:53] <craigbass1976> communico, you have to sudo apt-get install xmms . Sorry, forgot
[03:53] <sam> vox754: aplay etc
[03:53] <Goldfisch> Intelligimiate: Okay, lspci on my machine returns a line => 02:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01) <= NIC is a network card, it is 802.11, and uses the Atheros chipset.
[03:53] <sam> nny2: its cool
[03:53] <Riyonuk> >.>
[03:53] <LameBMX> wine is free cody
[03:54] <bullines> Anybody have experience setting up named virtual hosts on Apache?
[03:54] <nny2> heh my normal nick is logged in even though i dc'd
[03:54] <Intelligitimate> Oh, yes, sorry, Goldfisch.
[03:54] <Robinator> I am searching for 2 packages...  for php4   there is  "php4-pear"  and  php4-gd2"  but  for php5 ... I cannot find PEAR for php5  and there is only  "php5-gd" but no  "gd2"
[03:54] <nny2> sam, what did alsamixer say?
[03:54] <cody> LameBMX, I tried that briefly on CentOS and didn't get it working in the few minutes I tried
[03:54] <sam> nny2: it didn't give any errors, and it says all the volumes are up
[03:54] <Goldfisch> There is stuff like bus information, sound cards, usb controllers, etc.
[03:54] <nny2> what device is listed?
[03:54] <Intelligitimate> 0000:06.00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8180L 802.11b MAc (rev 20).
[03:54] <LameBMX> yea wine is nice for light windows apps ...mIRC ran great in it
[03:55] <MarcN> bullines: use the /etc/apache2/sites-available/whatever and link them to /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/
[03:55] <sam> nny2: HDA ATI SB
[03:55] <cody> I am definately still learning the basics of Linux, so I need my old XP safety net still
[03:55] <Riyonuk> at least you can install linux >.> pssh
[03:55] <bullines> MarcN:  That's what I've been trying be I keep getting the dirs listed in /var/www everytime I try to view one of my other sites.
[03:55] <nny2> ATI SB... is that onboard sound (is this a desktop pc?)
[03:55] <SilentDis> LameBMX, from my understanding, WoW runs perfectly fine under it with minimal tweaking now.  that's quite a statement for it's usability :)
[03:56] <Samyel> cody, have you found any good online resources for linux novices?
[03:56] <Samyel> I'm having a hard time finding anything between retarded baby-talk and advanced.
[03:56] <fushidamn> you can run WoW through wine?
[03:56] <vox754> nny2, its a laptop
[03:56] <gregcha117> can anybody help me out ?
[03:56] <sam> nny2: onboad laptop
[03:56] <SilentDis> Samyel, that's what we're here for... and the man pages ;)
[03:56] <LameBMX> yea SilentDis i havent used wine for a better part of a year
[03:56] <vox754> !ask > gregcha117
[03:56] <cody> Samyel, so far I have only really used google, linuxquestions.org and people I know
[03:57] <LameBMX> last nix try was gentoo a year ago ... worked fine and fun to play in
[03:57] <MarcN> bullines: you create a new directory, say /var/www/www.mysite.com, and set the directory in the configuration file.
[03:57] <gregcha117> I'm in need of some help from somoene.... i was in the middle of downloading a dvd on my mounted windows drive, and apparently i ran out of space, i tryed deleting some files and realized they just disappeared but no space was freed up and now i cant start windows and the mounted drive disappeared :| anyone know how to fix this?
[03:57] <LameBMX> but so far ubuntu has been doing much better for usability
[03:57] <Samyel> I only wandered into linux because my work uses nothing but Fedora and Ubuntu.
[03:57] <wizard> Hey all.  I just got an HP Officejet 5610 for Christmas.  It prints fine, but Xsane doesn't detect it as a scanner.  I also don't know how to set it up as a fax in openoffice.  After I follow the fax config settings, it asks for a command line to communicate with my device.  I don't know where to find/learn this...  Any help is appreciated.
[03:57] <communico> craig, it says 'reading package lists ... done, building dependency tree ... done, e: couldn't find package xmms
[03:57] <Samyel> And besides cursing OpenOffice for making my life hell, I'm kind of liking it.
[03:57] <nny2> sam k try "speaker-test" in terminal
[03:58] <LameBMX> lmao @ Samyel
[03:58] <MarcN> wizard: a lot, but not all, of the hp scanners are supported by sane.  Check their site for a list.
[03:58] <SilentDis> gregcha117, your windows partition is fat32 i take it?
[03:58] <gregcha117> ntfs
[03:58] <nny2> ironically enough, i just tried it and my sound is a little borked, seems something in the conf file is pointing to apair of usb headphones i have that is no longer plugged in :\
[03:58] <SilentDis> gregcha117, you have fuse setup on ubuntu then?
[03:58] <fushidamn> gregcha117:  I did something like that with my laptop, I deleted a bunch of stuff and ran every tool in system mechanic, I ultimitley reimaged becuase it was weirding out still...but retrieved data first
[03:58] <Samyel> OpenOffice really is frustrating.
[03:58] <nny2> anyone know why alsaconf is not avail on edgy?
[03:58] <cody> Samyel, I am basically too cheap to pay for windows Apps, so I figured what the hell
[03:58] <wizard> MarcN, thanks
[03:59] <gregcha117> i mounted it with some guide using ntfs-3g or something
[03:59] <bullines> MarcN: Yup, I've done that.  I've created a /var/www/test, created a new entry in sites-available, and ran a2ensite.  If I've named /var/www/test www.test.cvb and I go there in my browser, I get the listing of /var/www instead.
[03:59] <Goldfisch> Intelligimate: Okay, I looked up "ubuntu RTL8180L" on google, and it appears that wireless is not supported natively by ubuntu. It means you will probably have to use ndiswrapper and the firmward drivers that come with the windows CD.
[03:59] <Riyonuk> How can I tell if my cd is damaged? It looks fine...
[03:59] <gregcha117> it worked great until it disappeared...
[03:59] <MarcN> wizard: I have a hp 1510 printer/scanner/copier and works fine out of the box
[03:59] <Samyel> Work is all linux based, but I've always used Windows
[03:59] <SilentDis> !who | gregcha117
[03:59] <ubotu> gregcha117: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say, or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[03:59] <Samyel> so it's a bit of a mental shift
[03:59] <LameBMX> Riyonuk, put a lighter under it if the whole cd turns black then it was fine ...
[03:59] <sam> nny2: that command didn't give me any errors
[03:59] <LameBMX> sorry folks i had to say it
[03:59] <Riyonuk> -_-
[03:59] <nny2> did you get any noises?
[03:59] <sam> nny2: no
[03:59] <Intelligitimate> Damn, this is just not gonna work without the Windows CD, eh Goldfisch?
[04:00] <Riyonuk> really, why must I keep getting cd errors
[04:00] <DarthLappy> gregcha117: That's a really unsupported driver.
[04:00] <Riyonuk> its just annoying
[04:00] <mirshafie> Hello. I have a huge problem with my file systems. After using the computer for a while, I'm suddenly unable to write to them, and I get a message which say the disk is full. But df or any other tool will claim that they still have plenty of space available. This happens on both my hard drives - I have two large  ext3 partitions. What's wrong?
[04:00] <Riyonuk> it ruins the parttions, so I have to re-install windows
[04:00] <Goldfisch> Intelligitimate: I didn't mean the WIndows XP CD. I meant the CD of drivers that came with your wireless card.
[04:00] <SilentDis> gregcha117, ok...  so you mounted the ntfs partition as read/write (probably using fuse or the like) and when it filled up, it just de-mounted, and now windows won't boot at all.  is that correct?
[04:00] <Riyonuk> Ive re-installed windows 6 times today :D
[04:00] <LameBMX> mirshafie, did you do it under root
[04:00] <gregcha117> silentdis: yep thats exactly right
[04:00] <Goldfisch> Intelligitimate: I have one PC that uses a wireless card, and I haven't bought a windows disk for two years.
[04:00] <Intelligitimate> Oh. Is there anyway I can get this done will still in the Live CD?
[04:00] <binarydigit> what a terrible way to spend christmas, Riyonuk
[04:00] <fushidamn> Intelligitimate: that is probably the easiest answer, get the cd and do a repair....the rest of the options are if that is not possible
[04:00] <MarcN> bullines: never used a2ensite.  Just edited the files and ln -s
[04:01] <Riyonuk> yeah I know...
[04:01] <Intelligitimate> *while
[04:01] <MarcN> bullines: did you restart apache2?
[04:01] <gregcha117> silentdis: i checked the way i mounted it and everything is set up the same its just not appearing where it should
[04:01] <Riyonuk> if only I could have gotten some blank cd's for christmas
[04:01] <sam> nny2: can i pm you>
[04:01] <bullines> Yes, I restart Apache each time.
[04:01] <nny2> sam, try this... rm /home/[user] /.asound* and then /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[04:01] <nny2> sure
[04:01] <bullines> I had this working on Breezy but no luck on Edgy.
[04:01] <SilentDis> gregcha117, I almost hate to say this... but you might be fscked.  :(  i have yet to toy with the rw stuff for NTFS, as there's warnings all over the place that it can cause problems.  I'm betting something got overwritten in the FS and the table is borked.  there should be an fsck.ntfs installed along with the fuse tools, might try running that on the partition.
[04:02] <MarcN> bullines: check the config file in sites-available.  Is it linked to sites-enabled?
[04:02] <Goldfisch> Is ndiswrapper part of the LIve CD run? Is is gettable? If not, Intelligitimate will be really stuck. I think the flash drive is sounding like the better option.
[04:02] <SilentDis> !fuse | gregcha117
[04:02] <ubotu> gregcha117: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[04:02] <mirshafie> LameBMX: well, it seems that if i'm root i can in fact write to my disks. cool. but still, do you know a way to fix it?
[04:02] <MarcN> bullines: check /var/log/apache/error.log and access.log to see what is going on
[04:02] <idlemind> !ntfs-3g
[04:02] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[04:03] <fushidamn> Goldfisch: Either a flash drive or borrow someones copy of xp
[04:03] <gregcha117> ubotu: i had it mounted with that
[04:03] <communico> craig, i've just discovered I can surf in the browser by ip address
[04:03] <gregcha117> ubotu: it worked great until i ran out of space and now i cant seem to access it from windows or ubuntu
[04:03] <SilentDis> gregcha117, so long as fsck.ntfs got installed, you should be able to do this:  sudo fsck -C -f /dev/mountpointofntfsdrive
[04:03] <communico> i'm thinking it must be a dns issue, although I can ping a host name in terminal
[04:03] <Goldfisch> fushidamn: I like to be forward-thinking. Recover what you can, tuck a nice little flash drive into your pocket for future use, and say "hasta la vista" to "Vista". :)
[04:04] <Intelligitimate> Goldfisch, I think I just got an idea. I could possibly fix the NTFS partition with that NTFSFuse program.
[04:04] <craigbass1976> communico, great.  Now all you have to do is remember all of the ip addresses for the sites you want to visit. ;)
[04:04] <craigbass1976> communico, wierd though that dns isn't working.
[04:04] <vox754> communico, that is correct, all web addresses are actually just a bunch of numbers
[04:04] <fushidamn> Goldfisch:  I agree, you should have a flash drive on hand as part of your troubleshooting tools.
[04:04] <nny2> Wouldn't windows chkdsk fix a ntfs bad journal?
[04:04] <Savage-{> anybody know how to create a gnome theme index?
[04:04] <LameBMX> mirshafie, you are writing to the ntfs .. did you set option umask=0222 in fstab?
[04:05] <cmweb> Is their any thing for wine that will allow it to play cd-roms? i got a good game that id like to play but wine dont wana run the disk
[04:05] <sam> nny2: u getting my messages
[04:05] <LameBMX> cuz nix cant chown -R a ntfs drive properly
[04:05] <Savage-{> I have the theme files but I gotta make the index because it didn't come with it
[04:05] <bullines> MarcN: nothing jumps out as being wrong in the log files.
[04:05] <nny2> sam no, xchat has hidden them from me :S
[04:05] <fushidamn> Goldfisch: I have one 512MB and one 256MB, the larger ones are cheaper now, but I am cheap and have not needed a larger one yet.
[04:05] <vox754> sam, try this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[04:05] <caminomaster> hi
[04:05] <LameBMX> or did you do -o umask=0222 when you mounted it if you did it that way mirshafie
[04:06] <gregcha117> silentdis: it was mounted on /media/windows so would i use sudo fsck -C -f /media/windows ?
[04:06] <mirshafie> LameBMX: I'm not a Windows user, I don't use NTFS. Only Ext3 for me a the time.
[04:06] <LameBMX> oh ... well im a nix n00b
[04:06] <sam> vox754: thx ima look over it
[04:06] <MarcN> bullines: did you set DocumentRoot to /var/www/yoursite/  ?
[04:06] <LameBMX> and only have very limited knowledge
[04:06] <SilentDis> gregcha117, no, what was the actual mount point (like /dev/hda1 or something)?
[04:06] <sam> nny: thats cool there is no .asound
[04:06] <caminomaster> help: i need to download kernel-source, but I don't find my version 2.6.15; instead i find 2.6 and 2.6.11... which I must download?
[04:06] <gregcha117> ohhh alright yeah that was it
[04:06] <h0ndaracer2> is this any worry
[04:06] <craigbass1976> Where is named.conf?  I thought it usually lived in /etc?
[04:06] <LameBMX> mirshafie, is this your computer .. ie could someone have set disk usage for ur account
[04:07] <cmweb> Any one ever ran comand and conqor generals with wine
[04:07] <h0ndaracer2> Checking `lkm'... You have     1 process hidden for readdir commandyou have     1 process hidden for ps commandchkproc: Warning: Possible LKM Trojan installed
[04:07] <Goldfisch> fushidamn: I have a 128M awhile ago to tote around my GPG keyring. My work-one is 1G. My Dad spotted a 2G for $40 last week at BestBuy, and I cried. :)
[04:07] <h0ndaracer2> is that any concern
[04:07] <nny> sam I concour with vox754, peep that forum, i am gonna do the same
[04:07] <sam> ok thx
[04:07] <SilentDis> caminomaster, what are you trying to setup?  could it be the nvidia drivers from nvidia.com perchance?  :)
[04:07] <bullines> MarcN: Yes.  My "test" file in sites-available looks like this: NameVirtualHost www.test.cvb
[04:07] <bullines> <VirtualHost *:80>
[04:07] <bullines>    ServerName Test
[04:07] <bullines>    DocumentRoot /var/www/test/

[04:07] <gregcha117> silentdis: im getting this error
[04:07] <gregcha117> greg@GREG:~$ sudo fsck -C -f /dev/hda1
[04:07] <gregcha117> fsck 1.39 (29-May-2006)
[04:07] <gregcha117> fsck: fsck.ntfs-3g: not found
[04:07] <gregcha117> fsck: Error 2 while executing fsck.ntfs-3g for /dev/hda1
[04:07] <SilentDis> !paste | gregcha117
[04:07] <ubotu> gregcha117: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:07] <cmweb> !paste
[04:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:07] <mirshafie> LameBMX: yea, it's mine, only i have access. the strange thing is that it works fine for a few hours, then it just gets stupid and says the disks are full
[04:08] <MarcN> bullines: I have it set to:   NameVirtualHost *
[04:08] <caminomaster> SilentDis, I try to install drivers for an ISA soundcard
[04:08] <Intelligitimate> Well, thanks for all your help, Goldfisch. It is really appreciated, but I am just gonna give up and hunt down a copy of XP to get to the recovery console.
[04:08] <cmweb> !amd
[04:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:08] <h0ndaracer2> any help
[04:08] <LameBMX> mirshafie, but root can write fine correct?
[04:08] <Goldfisch> I guess only windows can fix windows.
[04:08] <cmweb> !ati
[04:08] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:08] <SilentDis> gregcha117, sounds like you need another package along with it.  along with that ntfs-3g stuff, did you add a repo to your system, or was it just a single .deb file you downloaded?
[04:09] <craigbass1976> communico, Ahh, I'm was looking for the wrong file...  cat /etc/resolv.conf and tell me what it says
[04:09] <gregcha117> silentdis: just the ntfs-3g that was it
[04:09] <h0ndaracer2> any help on chkrootkit
[04:09] <mirshafie> LameBMX: yes, it seems so :)
[04:09] <SilentDis> gregcha117, right... when you installed it, did you add a repository to do so, or did you just download a .deb file and go?
[04:09] <bullines> MarcN: I tried that and I still get the dir listing of /var/www
[04:09] <cplusplus> hi what is filesystem: udev mounted on /dev and none mounted on /dev/shm ???????
[04:10] <LameBMX> and you have write rights to the places your are trying to write too correct?
[04:10] <caminomaster> !ISA
[04:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ISA - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:10] <sam> nny: hrmm just noticed perhaps there is no driver for my sound card?
[04:10] <nny> heh just for fun i just changed microsoft.com on this network to http://www.opensource.org/
[04:10] <LameBMX> chmod -R 777 /
[04:10] <LameBMX> lol
[04:10] <gregcha117> silentdis: i just did sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g in the terminal
[04:10] <nny> hmm wonder if windows updates will like the new site
[04:10] <MarcN> nny: your users must love you
[04:10] <raxip> sup
[04:10] <dtrump> Hello
[04:10] <SPOPPO> sup?
[04:11] <SilentDis> gregcha117, ok, so you added a repository.  you might just need to run another apt-get line to get the fsck util
[04:11] <cmweb> is it possible to run high graphic games with wine?
[04:11] <nny> sam yeah one of the things that forums shows is how to make sure the module for your soundcard is loaded
[04:11] <kcinna> anyone know a good flac frontend gui?
[04:11] <nny> MarcN hehe users? deleted!
[04:11] <caminomaster> help: I need to install an ISA soundcard...
[04:11] <lyy> hi guys. i need help formatting a 160 external hard drive over usb2 so that my linux box can use it as well as my windows box. any one?
[04:11] <LameBMX> mirshafie, dont do the chmod ... i better make sure .. that was a joke suggestion
[04:11] <communico> thanks craig, i'll try it
[04:12] <lnX\> they know of where to unload Multiple Streaming Engine MUSE?
[04:12] <fushidamn> caminomaster:  You have an ISA card, wow, I thought those were only found in musuems.
[04:12] <LameBMX> ISA
[04:12] <lyy> .hiub'
[04:12] <LameBMX> wow
[04:12] <caminomaster> jeje
[04:12] <Astro-Freshmex> hi can anyone help me out with samba sharing between two computers (one's kubuntu, the other's mac os x)
[04:13] <cplusplus> hi what is filesystem: udev mounted on /dev and none mounted on /dev/shm ???????
[04:13] <caminomaster> That card is new... (maybe that was not a store... a museum)
[04:13] <dtrump> I'll soon find out
[04:13] <raxip> you tell me ;)
[04:13] <SPOPPO> I'll find out
[04:13] <fushidamn> The last time I saw an ISA card was in my A+ class: "This is an ISA card, this is the last time you will see one.  Moving on."  haha
[04:13] <h0ndaracer2> i ran chkrootkit and got this is this any concern Checking `lkm'... You have     1 process hidden for readdir commandYou have     1 process hidden for ps commandchkproc: Warning: Possible LKM Trojan installed
[04:13] <LameBMX> roflmao
[04:13] <mirshafie> LameBMX: ok, well thank you for you're time. :) i guess i'll have to google on it some more
[04:13] <craigbass1976> communico, no, type      cat /etc/resolv.conf and let us know what it says
[04:13] <communico> craig, it says 'nameserver 10.1.1.1'
[04:13] <sam> nny: lsmod shows soundcore snd loaded is that the module I need?
[04:14] <caminomaster> well, I've laught so much, but I need to make it run
[04:14] <SilentDis> gregcha117, ok, it looks like the package you'll need is ntfsprogs.  sudo apt-get install ntfstools
[04:14] <fushidamn> caminomaster: Sorry, I have nothing useful to contribute.
[04:14] <LameBMX> sorry mirshafie but i am a complete n00b i just pass on what i have learnt so for
[04:14] <LameBMX> cuz helping people helps me learn more myself
[04:14] <fushidamn> LameBMX: That is so true.
[04:14] <mirshafie> LameBMX: thanks :) good luck with gnu/linuxes in the future
[04:14] <LameBMX> its kinda like practice for things you only have to do once ...
[04:14] <vox754> caminomaster, read this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[04:14] <caminomaster> fushidamn, maybe you can: I need to download kernel-source
[04:14] <craigbass1976> communico, are you home?  Is there any kind of a proxy server between you and the internet?
[04:15] <LameBMX> yea i got a few issues lined up to tackle on my box ... but heck takes me a couple days to compose a xp install cd so i can install windows on my computer
[04:15] <LameBMX> :/
[04:15] <gregcha117> silentdis: alright great, just did that and its done installing
[04:15] <communico> craig, just a standard connection through an isp
[04:15] <caminomaster> I have kernel 2.6.15; must I download 2.6 or 2.6.11?
[04:15] <juanchito2006> Hello, after installing the ati driver and rebooting, my monitor reports that is out of sync, how do I fix this? I'm running edgy
[04:15] <nny> sam should be a module specific to the chipset you have (ie ATI) go to that forum and read how to modprobe for your soundcard
[04:15] <LameBMX> i cant expect more than how easy ubuntu has been so far
[04:16] <cmweb> wow, i actuly got it to work YEAH
[04:16] <craigbass1976> WOOHOO! I got my kid's mp3 player working!
[04:16] <SilentDis> gregcha117, sudo fsck -C -f /dev/hda1 (or whatever the device name was)
[04:16] <sam> nny: i did thats just it modprobe snd- <TAB> shows nothing
[04:16] <gregcha117> silentdis: its still comin up with the same error
[04:16] <vox754> caminomaster, and read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[04:17] <fushidamn> Caminomaster:  You should not, I am not master, but I would google for a repository or mirror for that kernal and use the --source thingie to get the source.  If this sounds stupid to anyone else, please point this out.
[04:17] <SilentDis> gregcha117, try it directly:  sudo fsck.ntfs -C -f /dev/devicepoint
[04:17] <nny> sam lspci | grep sound
[04:17] <LameBMX> cmweb, i love that feeling
[04:17] <nny> and tell me what hardware that beast has
[04:18] <nny> or alternatively, tell me the model number of your laptop
[04:18] <caminomaster> thank, vox754
[04:18] <SilentDis> gregcha117, after that, i don't know what to tell you, unfortunatly :(
[04:18] <sam> nny: no results
[04:18] <gregcha117> silentdis : crap, thats not working either
[04:18] <nny> erm sam try lspci and just manually look for the sound card
[04:18] <gregcha117> silentdis: it says command not found
[04:18] <sam> nny: hold on i'll get u a make and modem
[04:19] <craigbass1976> communico, so, you can ping www.google.com, but can't visit it in firefox?
[04:19] <sam> nny: gateway W340UI
[04:19] <communico> craig, that's right
[04:19] <vox754> sam, it does work "modprobe snd- <tab>" maybe press the tab many times, it gives me a list of 150 drivers
[04:19] <SilentDis> gregcha117, only thing I can say is for future refrence:  use windows to write into ext3, do not use linux to write into ntfs.  sorry I don't have better advice.  might be best to throw it back into the chatroom though (restate your question again), and see if anyone else has a better suggestion/solution
[04:19] <nny> wow googled that model number and got 1 google result
[04:19] <cmweb> LameBMX, but the real question is will it install the right way :)
[04:19] <nny> ^^
[04:19] <sam> vox754: not me
[04:20] <craigbass1976> Is there another browser you can try?  Maybe your FF install has gone wonky.  I was hunting through FF menus to see if there were a way to screw up name resolution, but didn't see any.
[04:20] <nny> sam pm'd u
[04:20] <sam> yeah i pm
[04:20] <sam> u back
[04:20] <sam> did u see it
[04:20] <sam> ?
[04:20] <CheyenneD> How do I start the vnc server and can i use a vnc client?
[04:20] <nny> no wtf is up with xchat
[04:21] <gregcha117> silentdis: thanks anyways, i think ill try for a bit and if i cant fix it im gonna reformat and increase my ubuntu partition instead of just using ntfs
[04:21] <SilentDis> gregcha117, sorry :(
[04:21] <nny> meh just look through lspci and find the one that says something about sound
[04:21] <vox754> nny, it's the channel or server, it doesn't allow private messages sometimes
[04:21] <nny> lspci | grep audio
[04:21] <gregcha117> im gonna try to get windows to boot thanks for the help
[04:21] <nny> ahh ok
[04:22] <nny> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[04:22] <nny>  <-- mine
[04:22] <SilentDis> CheyenneD, on the target machine, there's an option for 'remote desktop' under system > prefrences > remote desktop.  on the client machine, just go applications > internet > terminal server client :)
[04:22] <TommyBJ> Is it possible to install and boot ubuntu from a USB stick?
[04:22] <cmweb> is their anything besides the actulal windows that will run a windows game? Wine is not working and keeps screwing up
[04:23] <cmweb> TommyBJ, that is what damn small linux is for
[04:23] <SilentDis> TommyBJ, I saw some people working on it over in the ubuntu forums once..  never followed up on it myself though.
[04:23] <nny> TommyBJ google for ubuntusb
[04:23] <TommyBJ> cmweb: I know... but its no good ;)
[04:24] <nny> !ubuntusb
[04:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntusb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:24] <TommyBJ> cmweb: It's being developed, but I need binaries for ruby 1.8.4
[04:24] <nny> hah f ubuntusb
[04:24] <TommyBJ> But thanks guys :)
[04:24] <nny> 30 dollar license fee
[04:24] <lewix> ubuntu usb!'
[04:24] <lewix> ??
[04:24] <lewix> wow
[04:24] <juanchito2006> It seem that there is a problem with my monitor the HP L1706, googled about it but no forum has a solution
[04:25] <cmweb> ah fine il reboot to play a game
[04:25] <TommyBJ> nny: ?? ... $30 ?
[04:25] <SilentDis> CheyenneD, you want to setup the Ubuntu machine as the server, right?
[04:25] <ilen> join with mee..
[04:25] <nny> apparently.. seems someone is charging for it.. heh the gpl giveth and the gpl taketh away
[04:26] <CheyenneD> How can I use a windows vnc client to connect to a Ubuntu 6.10 Computer that is going to be the server
[04:26] <TommyBJ> Well... GPL doesn't say it has to be free... only the source avalible
[04:27] <nny> yeah but also can distribute without restriction
[04:27] <SilentDis> CheyenneD, on the ubuntu machine, go System > Prefrences > Remote Desktop.  Set your settings there.
[04:27] <TommyBJ> True
[04:27] <nny> meh plenty of nice usb distros out there.. although i agree..  ubuntu's ease of use thing would be nice
[04:27] <SilentDis> CheyenneD, on the windows machine, launch whatever you're using as a vncviewer with the default port, and the ip addy of the ubuntu machine.
[04:27] <xlr8n4d> Merry Christmas, look what I got in my stalking.  couldn't copy SiS163u.INF at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper-1.8 line 144.
[04:27] <olrrai_> Merry Christmas
[04:28] <dores> hi. i am using ubuntu edgy on a macbook (non-pro) and i have problems making wireless work. it seems that madwifi does not contain the module new_wlan_scan_sta. what should I do?
[04:28] <CheyenneD> I have more than one machine running vnc on my computer
[04:28] <nny> whats the footprint of an ubuntu install anyways? i imagine installing it on a thumbdrive of adequate size would more or less work like the live cd
[04:28] <CheyenneD> computer = network
[04:28] <SilentDis> olrrai_, happy Chrismahanukwanzakahto you too!
[04:28] <TommyBJ> nny: True... But I need a writable filesystem
[04:28] <Astro-Freshmex> does anyone know anything about samba?
[04:28] <nny> maybe just dd the live-cd image to a usb drive
[04:28] <SilentDis> !who | CheyenneD
[04:28] <ubotu> CheyenneD: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say, or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[04:28] <TommyBJ> nny: The bootloader is the problem :/
[04:28] <nny> and then partition the extra space as a ext3
[04:29] <TommyBJ> nny: If I've understand correctly, for a USB-drive to boot it *has* to be FAT
[04:29] <SilentDis> CheyenneD, that's fine.  as I said, on the client machine, just specify the IP addy of the ubuntu machine with vncserver running, and it will work just fine :)
[04:29] <TommyBJ> nny: as in the filesystem :p
[04:29] <Astro-Freshmex> becuase when i mount something in smb4k the thing automatically disconnects :(
[04:29] <Astro-Freshmex> and i dont want to use the sneakernet
[04:29] <CheyenneD> SilentDis: How do i change the port on the ubuntu computer
[04:29] <nny> TommyBJ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80811 help?
[04:29] <SilentDis> CheyenneD, why would you want/need to?
[04:30] <TommyBJ> nny: Ahh.. excellent! ... Thanks alot :)
[04:30] <sam> nny: u getting my messages
[04:30] <xlr8n4d> anyone have experience installing ndiswapper with drivers for a wireless adapter?
[04:30] <nny> TommyBJ seems http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5151 might help
[04:31] <CheyenneD> SilentDis: I am going to have 3-4 ubuntu computer and 6-10 windows computers runing a vnc server program
[04:31] <nny> sam no, pms not working for some god awful reason
[04:31] <starz> eh
[04:31] <SilentDis> CheyenneD, that's fine.  they won't be sharing an IP address (obviously) :)
[04:31] <epitiphlitis> Im thinking of installing ubuntu, is 6.10 stable or should i stick with dapper?
[04:31] <starz> hey im using xfe with icewm and the top of it has no border like the other windows :/
[04:31] <nny> TommyBJ, they do note that the r/w limits of usb drives presents an issue with non usbdrive optimized distro
[04:31] <starz> epitiphlitis, no its not
[04:31] <sam> nny: hrmm ok  Model: Gateway MX3702 Notebook
[04:31] <starz> imho
[04:31] <starz> :>
[04:31] <sam> nny: thats what I got from running the serial #
[04:31] <CheyenneD> SilentDis: I need to access them from outside my netowrk.
[04:31] <sam> at gateway.com
[04:31] <SilentDis> epitiphlitis, i have had no problems with 6.10 myself
[04:32] <nny> sam lspci | grep audio
[04:32] <TommyBJ> nny: I see...
[04:32] <epitiphlitis> ok, cool, thanks for the info
[04:32] <SilentDis> CheyenneD, then you'd be setting up the ROUTER with port forwarding, not the other way around ;)
[04:32] <Astrozombie> hello evy one.
[04:32] <starz> anyway anyone know if there is a way to make it open on screen or something its annoying that its not letting me do stuff :/
[04:32] <sam> nny: nothing shows up
[04:32] <FeliLixTKhat> xlr8n4d.... yes, I just spent 12 hrs getting my Broadcom Wireless adapter working on my Compaq Armada.  I might be able to help.
[04:32] <nny> TommyBJ, i image that a usb based distro uses the ram for more of the constant r/w stuff, like pointing certain /dev /var etc off disk.. or something like that
[04:32] <vox754> epitiphlitis, yes it is stable
[04:32] <Astrozombie> Are they any Programs for Ubuntu where i can make an acces point. ?
[04:33] <CheyenneD> SilentDis: Whats the defalt port on vnc for ubuntu
[04:33] <nny> er not /var
[04:33] <Astrozombie> there*
[04:33] <xlr8n4d> Felilixtkhat, that is very welcoming, do you have an IM program at all we could maybe chat on, MSN perhaps?
[04:33] <SilentDis> CheyenneD, i'm looking it up now.... I know it's default, just can't remember what that is lol
[04:33] <juanchito2006> How can I make my HP L1706 a generic monitor
[04:33] <epitiphlitis> well, two outta three say nay, so i guess 6.06 it is
[04:33] <h0ndaracer2> i just installed vmware now how do i setup a vm of windows
[04:33] <vox754> starz, I didn't get your question
[04:33] <nny> for usb right now i use insert, but only cause it is useful for the business i do
[04:33] <Astrozombie> Does anyone know any networking?
[04:33] <FeliLixTKhat> Let me look.... I'm running Linux.
[04:34] <TommyBJ> nny: That is what DSL does... But I 'must' have a writable section of the USB drive.
[04:34] <nny> has ddrescue, ntfs r/w etc
[04:34] <sam> nny: my lspci resules is http://pastebin.com/844977
[04:34] <nny> can you part the usb drive to run damnsmall and then another for /home?
[04:34] <SilentDis> CheyenneD, default port for VNC is 5900
[04:34] <morvok> AstroZombie: yes.
[04:34] <starz> vox
[04:34] <communico> craig, I manually entered the dns servers in that resolv.conf file, and now the internet is back up and running. thanks for your help
[04:34] <starz> you know when u open a window say nautilus or whatever
[04:34] <starz> its got the titlebar on it?
[04:34] <vox754> epitiphlitis, it should be "stable" in order to be released to the general public. Some guys are already trying 7.04, now that is risky.
[04:35] <TommyBJ> nny: That actually might work... But on the other hand, DSL is also outdated for my use ;) - Need quite a few cutting edge sutffs
[04:35] <Astrozombie> Do you know how to startup a wireless acess point, where the source is ethernet.
[04:35] <starz> xfe doesnt seem to and i cant get rox to allow me to browse my ntfs folders
[04:35] <SilentDis> CheyenneD, so, on your router, you'd setup <random port for ubuntu vnc> to forward to <ubuntu machine ip>.5900
[04:35] <FeliLixTKhat> I have Gaim... which is an AIM clone..... we should be able to chat. xlr8n4d
[04:35] <TommyBJ> nny: But the workaround will probably work with whichever distro I choose.
[04:35] <sam> nny: were u able to get to the site?
[04:35] <nny> sam you've got some devices that do not have any drivers/modules loaded
[04:35] <nny> #
[04:35] <nny> 0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 5a3f
[04:35] <nny> yes
[04:35] <nny> hmm
[04:35] <tom__> I'm having a little problem
[04:35] <tom__> my patch utility isn't working
[04:36] <nny> sam what version of ubuntu did you install?
[04:36] <CheyenneD> WHats the termnal command to do ipconfig on a windows machine
[04:36] <morvok> AstrZombie: want to clarify
[04:36] <vox754> starz, well, in that case, Ubuntu is always better than Kubuntu or Xubuntu
[04:36] <SilentDis> ask away tom__
[04:36] <LameBMX> ipconfig
[04:36] <DarthLappy> CheyenneD: It's ipconfig.
[04:36] <LameBMX> lol
[04:36] <starz> making sense yet? it opens slightly off the desktop somehow...
[04:36] <starz> vox754, im not using any of them
[04:36] <starz> did a server install + icewm + rox + apps i use
[04:36] <SilentDis> CheyenneD, winipcfg
[04:36] <tom__> I type patch whatever, and it just hangs there
[04:36] <xlr8n4d> FeliLixTKhat I am not familiar with AIM, PM's here are not working from what I understand, how about Yahoo??  I could use www.meebo.com maybe connect to AIM there.  this is the user name I have at all of them.
[04:36] <sam> nny: 6.6
[04:36] <Clinton__> why does X now reset when I click shift and backspace ?
[04:36] <sam> nny: dapper
[04:36] <Astrozombie> Ive been trying to start an acces point, broadcasted from my laptop, and the source of the Internet is from my Wired Router.
[04:36] <SilentDis> CheyenneD, or what LameBMX, DarthLappy said :)
[04:36] <LameBMX> winipcfg is for dos based windows machines
[04:37] <tom__> patch --version works, prints the version
[04:37] <Astrozombie> I need it to connect to other Laptops.
[04:37] <craigbass1976> communico, it's weird that it messed up in the first place, or that you could ping a name but not go to it in FF.  I would think that either dns is working or not, regardless of whether in a terminal or browser.  Weird...
[04:37] <tom__> but I can't patch anything
[04:37] <nny> sam one sec phone
[04:37] <sam> k
[04:37] <DarthLappy> xlr8n4d: To be able to PM on Freenode you need to have registered your nick.
[04:37] <tom__> I tried reinstalling it, but it didn't help.
[04:38] <morvok> astrozombie: so you are trying to configure your wireless ethernet card?
[04:38] <xlr8n4d> DarthLappy that involves a contribution by paypal correct?  I have not done that yet.
[04:38] <DarthLappy> xlr8n4d: No it doesn't. /msg nickserv help register
[04:38] <SilentDis> tom__, that's the proper behavior... it's basically waiting for input from you at that point.  the format is in the man page:  patch [options]  [originalfile [patchfile] ] 
[04:38] <FeliLixTKhat> Hang on xlr8n4d ... I'll make an MSN account... give me a minute to get going and I'll give you my screen name
[04:38] <tom__> no, I know.
[04:38] <Astrozombie> Yes, and no. I have a working Wireless NIC, but i want that to broad cast a Acces Point. You get me?
[04:38] <tom__> it still does that.
[04:39] <SilentDis> tom__, for more info about how patch works, type man patch in a term window :)
[04:39] <tom__> i did..
[04:39] <xlr8n4d> FeliLixTKhat thanks matey, appreciate this a LOT.
[04:39] <morvok> AstroZombie: nope.
[04:39] <Astrozombie> And the internet to be bridged between the Ethernet(Source) and wifi should be a wep enabled access point.
[04:39] <CheyenneD> I need the termnal command that is the equivlent to the windows command ipconfig.
[04:39] <Astrozombie> ifconfig
[04:39] <tom__> wait, let me try again...
[04:40] <borg> dont forget iwconfig for wireless
[04:40] <SilentDis> CheyenneD, ifconfig should get you the info you need :)
[04:40] <Astrozombie> morvok what part dont you dont you understand, about what im saying.
[04:40] <SilentDis> !who | tom__
[04:40] <ubotu> tom__: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say, or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[04:41] <tom__> ubotu: sorry
[04:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sorry - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:41] <Astro-Freshmex> can i please get assiatance from ANYONE with knowldge in samba
[04:41] <vox754> CheyenneD, System -> Administration -> Network Tools
[04:41] <Astro-Freshmex> assistance*
[04:41] <morvok> AstroZombie: going retarded,  been reading a C++ book for 6hours.
[04:41] <borg> Astro-Freshmex, join #samba
[04:41] <co_Q> hy
[04:41] <SilentDis> !anyone | Astro-Freshmex
[04:41] <ubotu> Astro-Freshmex: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:41] <Astro-Freshmex> thanks
[04:41] <vox754> !Bot > tom__
[04:41] <sam> damn
[04:42] <sam> i wonder if this sound card is fixable
[04:42] <Astrozombie> Well, Im Trying to get the intern from my router. (Its not wireless) Connect that to my laptop, and have the laptop, act as a wireless accesspoint.
[04:42] <Astrozombie> *internet.
[04:42] <Astrozombie> And it needs to be wep.
[04:42] <Astro-Freshmex> SilentDis: i have asked already
[04:42] <LameBMX> Astrozombie,  i dont know for sure .. but i think wifi adapters can only manage ad-hoc
[04:43] <Astrozombie> I read it is possible.
[04:43] <vox754> sam, maybe you've got the first laptop out the factory. Nobody has tested it yet.
[04:43] <LameBMX> Astrozombie, so you could only host for one computer
[04:43] <morvok> AstroZombie: okay,  so what you want to do is enable IP_forwarding from the eth connected to your modem to your wireless card.. no?
[04:43] <SilentDis> Astrozombie, what you're looking to do, basically, is setup a wireless laptop as a gateway of sorts... possibly with NAT?
[04:43] <Astrozombie> yes.
[04:43] <Astrozombie> so my xbox, laptops, psp can connect. wirelessly
[04:44] <LameBMX> can you make a wireless adapter behave as though it has numerous "port"
[04:44] <sam> vox754: perhaps i just would hate to install xp
[04:44] <morvok> AstroZombie: edit sysctl.conf so IP_FORWARDING=1..
[04:44] <xlr8n4d> FeliLixTKhat I have registered here now, able to keep in PM here, are you still watching?
[04:44] <Astrozombie> can i make it to have a separted ESSID?
[04:44] <SilentDis> Astrozombie, I've never setup a machine like that, personally... when I needed a wireless cloud, I purchased a wireless bridge deal from linksys for $30.  basically did the same thing *shrug*
[04:44] <Astrozombie> LIKE ESSID= Qwerty?
[04:45] <Astrozombie> Well, i was think if it could get it to work, i dont need to buy a new router.
[04:45] <gregcha117> silentdis: alright, for whatever reason, windows didnt start but then when i started ubuntu up again after several failed restarts with no drive this time it was there
[04:45] <FeliLixTKhat> xlr8n4d I'm on your PM
[04:45] <SilentDis> Astrozombie, very true :)  good use of 'spare' tech, as well, if that's what that laptop is :)
[04:45] <gregcha117> is anyone aware of why when i delete files from my ntfs drive why no disk space is freed?
[04:45] <morvok> AstroZombie: ahh.. you are looking to use the same card to talk to your router. and your other network?
[04:46] <LameBMX> Astrozombie, i think ur stuck with ad-hoc ... since a wifi adapter is built to make one connection ... just as a dedicated AP can only have a certian number of machines connect to it ..
[04:46] <emakris> does anyone know how to build postgresql 8.2 packages?
[04:46] <Astrozombie> No to use 2 cards.
[04:46] <Astrozombie> One ethernet and one wifi.
[04:46] <Astrozombie> is on the same laptop.
[04:46] <vox754> Astrozombie, sure everything is possible, just keep small questions. I'm sure there is some HOWTO in the forums. Check there, you won't find the exact information you need here.
[04:46] <sam> nny: you still with me?
[04:46] <ubuntu> hi
[04:46] <LameBMX> Astrozombie,  but if you set ur other devices to ad-hoc than you can use one device at a time with it ...
[04:46] <ubuntu> Koepte
[04:46] <SilentDis> Astrozombie, just so everyone is clear... you're looking to setup like this Wireless machines > laptop > wired network > router > internet.  you need help setting up that 'laptop' part of the link right?
[04:46] <nny> sam yeah on phone with fam for xmas
[04:46] <Astrozombie> yes.
[04:47] <vox754> !Enter > Astrozombie
[04:47] <harry> is there a way that linux could open an .rar extension?
[04:47] <Astrozombie> I hope, its not hard.
[04:47] <MarcN> harry: get unrar
[04:47] <LameBMX> winrar for linux harry
[04:47] <SilentDis> gregcha117, ok... were you able to clear some space on that drive then?
[04:47] <Bluewolf> I`m Trien to Find out how to Display my Firmware for my Wireless card in ubunto, i cant seem to figure it out.
[04:47] <gregcha117> harry: open terminal and type sudo apt-get install unrar
[04:47] <Bluewolf> Cany anyone help?
[04:48] <nny> sam kk
[04:48] <ubuntu> i wan help too
[04:48] <ubuntu> My ubuntu don't work
[04:48] <andoh> Hey, I have a problem.
[04:48] <ubuntu> i make it 6 gb of programs
[04:48] <vox754> !ask > Bluewolf
[04:48] <xlr8n4d> FeliLixTKhat I guess I don't understand I only see your messages to me as red running with all the other messages in the open chat screen.
[04:48] <nny> sam need to figure out why the modules are loading etc
[04:48] <SilentDis> !ask
[04:48] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:48] <ubuntu> and i install in it Vmware
[04:48] <nny> sam do a dmesg |grep error
[04:48] <ubuntu> with 256 mb ram
[04:48] <sam> nny: what module do I need?
[04:48] <andoh> Every time I try to install the nvidia driver and restart x11 it barfs and tells me that I have the wrong nvidia driver or I don't have an nvidia card when I actually have a geforce 7300 gs.
[04:48] <SilentDis> !enter | ubuntu
[04:48] <ubotu> ubuntu: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:48] <ubuntu> i only want to try it becouse Fedora bug much
[04:49] <nny> sam i dunno, that lspci says ati, but no specific hardware
[04:49] <Astrozombie> SLIENTDIS: do you know anyone who can help.
[04:49] <Astro-Freshmex> i love it when #samba is idle :)
[04:49] <CheyenneD> How do I get a diffrent VNC viewer?
[04:49] <morvok> AstroZombie: okay, to make your laptop throw packets between the 2 devices you need to enable IP_forwarding.
[04:49] <dakota> I've searched the Ubuntu forums over and over again.  I have a Conexant Intel HD Audio Soundcard.  The sound plays out of the speakers even when I have a headset plugged in.  It simply doesn't acknowledge that the headphones are there.
[04:49] <andoh> please help me.
[04:49] <nny> sam may* want to try edgy on a livecd to see if it fixes it
[04:49] <andoh> i don't want to use windows.
[04:49] <andoh> please
[04:49] <andoh> edgy is being a bastard.
[04:49] <andoh> nvidia, barfing, not working the way it should.
[04:49] <ubuntu> i want to use Windows
[04:49] <Astrozombie> morvok: yeah but will it act like a Access Point.
[04:49] <SilentDis> andoh, I'm gonna recommend you check out the envy script.  i had lots of problems setting up the nvidia drivers myself.  they fixed it.
[04:49] <LameBMX> ubotu can i ask you a question
[04:49] <nny> andoh does nbvidia barf in 3d?
[04:49] <SilentDis> !envy | andoh
[04:49] <ubotu> andoh: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy
[04:49] <morvok> AstroZombie: to do this, edit sysctl.conf and set IP_Forwarding_enable=1.
[04:49] <CheyenneD> How do I get a diffrent VNC viewer?
[04:50] <LameBMX> ubotu: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[04:50] <ubuntu> SilentDis this bastard can't make something to work good in LInux
[04:50] <LameBMX> lmao
[04:50] <andoh> nny and SilentDis; It barfs after I install the drivers as per the documentation.
[04:50] <dakota> Please someone help me
[04:50] <vox754> !Enter > andoh
[04:50] <Clinton__> OK, I'm in Gnome, and my window now have no borders, including no minimize, maximize, close buttons.  what happened and how can I get them back?
[04:50] <Astrozombie> morvok, but i want to have wep on it.
[04:50] <ubuntu> i try to install kerio and i won't install
[04:50] <nny> andoh specific what is barf?
[04:50] <nny> whats the wrror
[04:50] <nny> error*
[04:50] <SilentDis> !language | ubuntu
[04:50] <ubotu> ubuntu: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:50] <gregcha117> clinton open run and type metacity --replace
[04:50] <andoh> nny: It says that there's the wrong kernel module.
[04:50] <dakota> I have the COnexant HD Audio card.  The system completely ignores the fact that I have headphones plugged in.
[04:50] <andoh> nny: This is after I install the driver and do the ctrl+alt+backspace restart.
[04:50] <Clinton__> gregcha117: I'll try that
[04:50] <ubuntu> !language | SilentDis
[04:50] <ubotu> SilentDis: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:50] <LameBMX> !anyone | dakota
[04:50] <ubotu> dakota: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:51] <nny> andoh try envy first
[04:51] <andoh> envy?
[04:51] <nny> !nvy
[04:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:51] <andoh> I'm running envy.
[04:51] <nny> !envy
[04:51] <ubotu> envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy
[04:51] <SilentDis> andoh, i had the same problems, as I said.  I was missing the restricted modules
[04:51] <ubuntu> Nvidia drivers
[04:51] <Bluewolf> Hello I`m trien to figure out how to, Show what firmware i have for my Intel wireless ipw2200, Can anyone help me? is there a site i can go to or a command i can type in?
[04:51] <sam> nny: nothing on dmesg | grep error
[04:51] <ubuntu> a one question
[04:51] <gregcha117> anyone know where the files i delete from my ntfs drive are going, it deletes them but must not really delete them becaues no space is freed, someone know where they're going ?
[04:51] <ubuntu> one friend have P4 with 14 Inch monitor
[04:52] <sam> nny: http://pastebin.com/844979 full dmesg
[04:52] <dakota> I HAVE A CONEXANT INTEL HD AUDIO CARD AND THE COMPUTER IGNORES THE FACT THAT I HAVE HEADPHONES PLUGGED IN.
[04:52] <ubuntu> why UBuntu wan't to install on this comupter.
[04:52] <SilentDis> !caps | dakota
[04:52] <ubotu> dakota: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[04:52] <ubuntu> dakota that is Linux for that i use Windows
[04:52] <harry> after installing unrar, i can automtically open an .rar right?
[04:52] <andoh> And that will work?
[04:52] <andoh> The envy script?
[04:52] <Clinton__> gregcha117: thx, got it.  so what happened?
[04:52] <Astrozombie> So i guess it is impossible.
[04:52] <andoh> I don't wanna have to reinstall the damn os.
[04:52] <dakota> Well, if I didn't want it to work in Ubuntu, why would I be asking??
[04:52] <ubuntu> dakota man the problems was in Red Hat 8 and now in Ubuntu
[04:53] <SilentDis> ubuntu:  we're usually happy to help people, myself included, but you've done nothing but violate all of our rules here, including calling me names.  why in the world would I wish to help you?
[04:53] <gregcha117> clinton: not really sure :P i just know i installed openbox and forgot to install some things and well, your windows manager thing crashed
[04:53] <vox754> Bluewolf, http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=11747716
[04:53] <ubuntu> dakota becouse man ubuntu is in beta version
[04:53] <nny> sam strangeness normally if the kernel you were using had the support in it, it would just modprobe/load it.. nothing in google showsup for thta model fo laptop + linux or ubuntu.. so.. i wonder if the kernel in edgy has support
[04:53] <dakota> So I have to wait for a fix, there's nothing I can do now?
[04:53] <gregcha117> clinton: ive only been using linux for a few days :P just happened to have run into the same problem
[04:53] <Clinton__> gregcha117: ah well, I'll probably never know, thanks for your help
[04:53] <SilentDis> !ops
[04:53] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!
[04:53] <ubuntu> dakota man you can install XP WIndows
[04:53] <Astrozombie> Well, time to buy a mac.
[04:54] <ubuntu> i have illegal copy
[04:54] <rob> hmm
[04:54] <nalioth> SilentDis: yes?
[04:54] <elkbuntu> SilentDis, what?
[04:54] <eegore_> Is there a way to get a Creative Zen Vision to work with edgy 64 so I can add files to it?
[04:54] <ignacio> hola
[04:54] <idlemind> eegore_: yes
[04:54] <nalioth> SilentDis: did you need something?
[04:54] <idlemind> eegore_: you need libmtp and gnomad2
[04:54] <nalioth> !es
[04:54] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:54] <morvok> AstroZombie: ohh. no prob
[04:54] <ubuntu> eegore man UBUntu everytimes fuck
[04:54] <ignacio> speak spanish
[04:54] <sam> nny: hrmm anyway to find out?
[04:54] <ubuntu> ignacio
[04:55] <ubuntu> de donde eres
[04:55] <ignacio> de chile
[04:55] <idlemind> eegore_: use apt (or synaptic) to get gnomad2 it will get all the dependencies ok
[04:55] <ignacio> y tu
[04:55] <nalioth> ignacio: ubuntu vaya de el #ubuntu-es, por favor  :)
[04:55] <ubuntu> De Spain
[04:55] <Astrozombie> I found some Linux software for my wireless card will that help??
[04:55] <ubuntu> no
[04:55] <ignacio> a que bien
[04:55] <ubuntu> Astrozombie
[04:55] <nny> !es
[04:55] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:55] <ubuntu> Ignacio man ufff UBuntu don't work good for me
[04:55] <Astrozombie> It wont work for UBuntu?
[04:55] <nny> sam worht a download of edgy, looking over dmesg, and yeah, nothing stands out
[04:56] <ignacio> ?
[04:56] <FreeNet> sorry need help from egroupware user... please private msg me... sorry again to have to ask in public
[04:56] <andoh> nny: That so didn't work.
[04:56] <ubuntu> Astrozombie won't work
[04:56] <Noggin01> I'm pretty new to Linux and have a startup question regarding ndiswrapper.  When I boot up, I have to open a terminal and run "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"  Is there a script I can edit to have this happen automatically, or a better way?
[04:56] <ubuntu> ignacio Ubuntu no funciona.
[04:56] <ignacio> ???
[04:56] <morvok> AstroZombie: to use qep just install the NetworkManager package
[04:56] <morvok> WEP
[04:56] <ignacio> a q te refieres
[04:56] <ubuntu> he Astrozombie and then it won't work
[04:56] <elkbuntu> ubuntu, ignacio please use english in here
[04:56] <Astrozombie> so i do your ip forwarding, then get Network manager.
[04:56] <ubuntu> i try it and say no Wireless card
[04:56] <vox754> Noggin01, use "ndiswrapper" alone to view options
[04:56] <ignacio> ok
[04:56] <binarydigit> Noggin01: /etc/modules
[04:57] <pianoboy3333> In an irc channel, is there a mode you can set for allowing an unlimited amount of text?
[04:57] <Astrozombie> You have an intel 2200BG? Mr. Ubuntu?
[04:57] <ubuntu> ignacion que Ubuntu ufff esta a un en version beta.
[04:57] <vox754> Noggin01, use "ndiswrapper -m"
[04:57] <Noggin01> i think I did ndiswraper -m, i'll try it again.  if it doesn't work, I'll check /etc/modules thanks
[04:57] <ignacio> por que es neesario que hable en ingles si con suerte se hablar espaol
[04:57] <ubuntu> Astrozombie on Dell Inspiron 9300
[04:57] <morvok> AstroZombie: either way is fine, Network manager just tinkles with the wireless card,  but either way for your laptop to be the router you will need to enable IP_forwarding
[04:57] <ignacio> ????
[04:57] <sam> nny: alright i'll give it a go
[04:57] <eegore_> idlemind: anything else i need
[04:57] <vox754> !ops
[04:57] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!
[04:57] <rob> sigh
[04:57] <sam> nny: so your saying everything should work out of the box?
[04:57] <Astrozombie> Morvok, and how would i do that.
[04:57] <nalioth> vox754: yes?
[04:57] <nny> sam heh i run edgy and it works better on alot of things on this asus laptop
[04:57] <ignacio> y que usas tu ubuntu?
[04:57] <ubuntu> ignacio que Ubuntu ne esta bien es como Fedora
[04:58] <Hobbsee> ignacio: ubuntu english only please
[04:58] <morvok> AstroZombie: enable IP_forwarding?
[04:58] <Noggin01> "ndiswrapper -m" gives me "modprobe config already contains alias directive"
[04:58] <nny> sam pretty much.. if the kernel has support for that device in it
[04:58] <harry> after installing unrar, i can automtically open an .rar right?
[04:58] <CheyenneD> How do I get a diffrent VNC viewer for ubuntu?
[04:58] <Astrozombie> yes, and to add WEP. Mr morvok.
[04:58] <nalioth> harry: unrar-nonfree will allow that, yes
[04:58] <Hobbsee> nalioth: banforward that IP to #ubuntu-es, i'd suggest
[04:58] <LameBMX> CheyenneD, whats wrong with the current one
[04:59] <nny> hmm hail ops! ^^
[04:59] <sam> nny: question is  can i find out if it supports it before downloading it
[04:59] <sam> ?
[04:59] <Noggin01> I've added it to /etc/modules, hope that works for me.  thanks guys
[04:59] <LameBMX> CheyenneD,  i forget the option but ssh handles that kinda stuff
[04:59] <morvok> AstroZombie: sudo apt-get install NetworkManager. run it and it should be striaght forward to setup wap
[04:59] <nny> not to mention the fact that guy had a mouth like a sailor
[04:59] <Astrozombie> I DONT WANT Wap, I want WEP.
[04:59] <rob> Hobbsee: he speaks Engrish too, so no need I guess
[04:59] <pianoboy3333> In an irc channel, is there a mode you can set for allowing an unlimited amount of text?
[04:59] <juano> has anyone made motorola rokr E1 with itunes sync under Linux???
[04:59] <rob> pianoboy3333: no
[04:59] <Hobbsee> rob: ah
[05:00] <nny> sam well that depends.. seeing as how there is no documentation of someone getting linux installed ont hat particular laptop, i can always check the latest kernel source and see if it is, only if i can figure out what devices are not being loaded
[05:00] <nalioth> pianoboy3333: no
[05:00] <pianoboy3333> rob: is there a way to increse the limit/timeout
[05:00] <nalioth> pianoboy3333: join #help
[05:00] <rob> pianoboy3333: of text? no.
[05:00] <pianoboy3333> kk
[05:01] <sam> nny: do you know witch device isn't loading?
[05:01] <eegore_> idlemind: still not working
[05:01] <morvok> AstroZombie: mediakey.dk/~cc/howto-use-wep-encrytptio-with-ubuntu-linux
[05:01] <nny> sam no.. the lspci only shows them as unknown. whats the model number again.. maybe some detective work on Gateways site will help show what it is
[05:01] <eegore_> is it suppose to automount
[05:01] <harry> nalioth: is it the unrar-nonfree i installed by doing "sudo apt-get install unrar"?
[05:01] <morvok> AstroZombie: mediakey.dk/~cc/howto-use-wep-encryption-with-ubuntu-linux
[05:01] <fr500> !hello
[05:01] <ubotu> hello: The classic greeting, and a good example. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1-4 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 472 kB
[05:01] <fr500> hello
[05:01] <nalioth> harry: i suspect so, but am not 100% sure
[05:02] <fr500> totem can't show WMV videos while xine can, what can be the prob?
[05:02] <Astrozombie> Morvok, i have network manager install but it doesnt show up.
[05:02] <harry> !rar
[05:02] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[05:02] <nny> sam this is akin to windows not having a driver, it says "unknown device" until you install it, the hardware ID is not enough for it to know what the hardware is
[05:02] <fr500> !wmv
[05:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:02] <juano> has anyone made motorola rokr E1 with itunes sync under Linux???
[05:02] <harry> !wmv
[05:02] <sam> ahh ok
[05:03] <sam> nny: ima have to pull a spec sheet of the laptop
[05:03] <sam> 7 devices on this laptop is unknown
[05:03] <nny> sam, if you have a good net connection, and a available disk, could be quicker just to try the livecd and see what lspci reports on that
[05:03] <nny> sam alternatively you can compile a new kernel or (anyone wanna jump in on this) download a newer kerenl for dapper
[05:03] <sam> nny: hrmm ok I need to find the 6.10 live cd link
[05:04] <nny> sam i'll send you a link
[05:04] <sam> k
[05:04] <gregcha117> anyone know where the files i delete from my ntfs drive are going, it deletes them but must not really delete them becaues no space is freed, someone know where they're going ?
[05:04] <sam> downloading the full version I think atm
[05:04] <FeliLixTKhat> xlr8n4d did you get my last msg?
[05:04] <nny> http://osmirrors.cerias.purdue.edu/pub/ubuntu-releases/edubuntu/edgy/
[05:04] <Astrozombie> Network Manager is installed now where do i find it?
[05:04] <nalioth> gregcha117: into your Trash?
[05:04] <CheyenneD> How do I get a diffrent VNC viewer for ubuntu?
[05:04] <gregcha117> NOPE
[05:04] <SilentDis> gregcha117, it drops them into .Trash-<username>.  you can empty it by right clicking the icon in the lower right corner :)
[05:04] <nalioth> Astrozombie: gksudo network-admin
[05:05] <nny> sam best either is a personal choice, sapper is deprecated IMHO now that edgy is released and fiesty is in the wings
[05:05] <gregcha117> SILENTDIS:THEYRE NOT APPEARING IN THERE AFTER I DELETE THEM THOUGH
[05:05] <nny> dapper*
[05:05] <nny> sam!
[05:05] <nny> heh
[05:05] <nny> send me a pic of that laptop
[05:05] <SilentDis> CheyenneD, the only vnc viewer i know of is vncviewer... are you trying to connect to some 'customized' version of vncserver or something?
[05:05] <nny> i think my GF's emachine is the same thing
[05:06] <Astrozombie> where is sysctl.conf located.
[05:06] <morvok> " /etc/ I believe
[05:06] <nny> in which yeah, edgy is way better, has wireless support etc. proper and took 2 hours to setup vs 2 days 11 months ago
[05:06] <SilentDis> gregcha117, show hidden files on the partition you're working on, and check for a .Trash-<username> folder.  they should be in there.  you can delete them from a command prompt if need be.
[05:06] <sam> nny: talkin to me? i dont have a digi cam
[05:06] <juano> has anyone made motorola rokr E1 with itunes sync under Linux???
[05:07] <magic_ninja> how do i extract a single file from a .deb package?
[05:07] <nny> sam er no online
[05:07] <sam> ?
[05:07] <nny> from gateway's site
[05:07] <nalioth> gregcha117: what program are you deleting them from?
[05:07] <nny> sam but yeah, regardelss, use edgy at least
[05:07] <xlr8n4d> FeliLixTKhat I don't think I am getting them, where should I see them?
[05:07] <SilentDis> magic_ninja, why would you want to do that?  just curious :)
[05:07] <nny> sam you'll be much happier with the results
[05:07] <CheyenneD> Where can I get drivers for a Buffalo Airstation WLI-CB-G54HP?
[05:07] <Astrozombie> morvok how do i type that line you told me to add.
[05:07] <sam> http://support.gateway.com/support/srt/mcc.asp?sn=N186BD1012071
[05:07] <xlr8n4d> FeliLixTKhat Your messages come up here red, in the same jumble as all the other chat in the window, how can we get a window of our own?
[05:08] <borg> is anyone familiar with styling their firefox with userChrome.css?
[05:08] <magic_ninja> SilentDis: kuz i played with a .py file in cedega and i need the old one back
[05:08] <sam> nny: will give it a go and see if not well i guess its xp for me :(
[05:08] <nny> i installed compiz/xgl in feb on dapper, and again on this asus 1 month ago (excet beryl) it works flawless and was all too easy to setup
[05:08] <sam> just want a working ubuntu for xmas lol
[05:08] <SilentDis> magic_ninja, just reinstall the package for cedega.  it won't overwrite settings, it'll just repair it for you :)
[05:08] <nny> sam heh wow what did you laptop ever do to you ;)
[05:08] <FeliLixTKhat> xlr8n4d ... xlr8n4d depending on your Linux system. Ndiswrapper is needed if your wireless card is not supported by Linux.  The recent problem is that when they (Linux Kernel) upgraded from Kernel 2.4 to 2.6 many older devices a.k.a backward compatiblity was lost.  Also the 2.6 kernel has many driver modules built in, that it trys to load at boot up.  This can cause some conflicts with some wireless cards as so
[05:08] <FeliLixTKhat>  me of the drivers will recognize the hardware, but do not the the necessary firmware to actually make the card work.   This also makes the NDISWRAPPER program fail, as the kernel drives conflict with the ones the NDISWRAPPER trys to load.
[05:08] <pm2> Anyone have an idea about what might be going on here:  I have installed Win2k under the latest stable version of qemu with kqemu on kubuntu.  The install went fine, and it seems to run ok.  However, when I try to install service packs, they all fail.  SP1 says "failed to add registry key" -- any thoughts as to what might be going wrong?
 Hello????
 Still here... just wanted to make sure I didn't get too far ahead.
[05:08] <FeliLixTKhat>  To make NDISWRAPPER work correctly you need to blacklist the kernel drivers.  You do this by editing the file found in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[05:08] <sam> nny: it came with xp mediacenter and massive popups
[05:08] <sam> lol
[05:09] <gregcha117> SILENTDIS: YEAH THANKS, THERES A TRASH FOLDER ON THE MOUNTED DRIVE IS THERE ANYWAY I CAN MAKE IT SEND DELETED FILES TO THE REGULAR TRASH BIN? IF ITS NOT EASY THEN I THINK I CAN HANDLE JUST DELETING THEM TWICE LIKE THIS :p
[05:09] <nny> sam i would highly recommend using edgy than.. i have it on here and since all i play is wow anymore, i hardly ever use my windows partition
[05:09] <nalioth> !tell gregcha117 about caps
[05:09] <morvok> AstroZombie: use your favourite text editor (using as su) edit /etc/sysctl.conf. look for the line IP_Forwarding_enable=0 and change the 0 to a 1.
[05:09] <SilentDis> !caps | gregcha117
[05:09] <ubotu> gregcha117: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[05:09] <nny> sam hehehe hijackthis + lots of clicks (new laptops r fun)
[05:09] <nny> sam xmas present?
[05:09] <sam> nny: can i play wow in ubuntu?
[05:09] <nny> sam yeah
[05:09] <sam> nny: yeah
[05:09] <sam> and I just bought wow
[05:09] <Astrozombie> MORVOK that line isnt there
[05:09] <sam> havn't even installed it
[05:09] <gregcha117> ah whoops sorry for the caps
[05:09] <sam> :(
[05:09] <idlemind> sam: yes i believe w/cedega
[05:09] <gregcha117> didnt notice i hit capslock
[05:10] <morvok> AstroZombie:okay, add the line IP_Forwarding_enable=1
[05:10] <rusher> hello
[05:10] <nny> sam i have beryl (3d desktop environment thing, way slick) and play wow in a new "x window" (like multiple desktops i guess)
[05:10] <CheyenneD> Where can I get drivers for a Buffalo Airstation WLI-CB-G54HP?
[05:10] <nny> sam i can help ya a bit to get it setup you'll be much pleased with the result
[05:10] <sam> nny: is the prog free?
[05:10] <rusher> CheyenneD are you in japan?
[05:10] <SilentDis> gregcha117, the trash 'folder' on the drive is the 'regular' trash bin.  that's how nautilus works (it's normal behavior).  you can enable an option to 'permanantly delete' under nautilus, but I'd recommend against it, you can hose yourself pretty good without a saftey net.  never a bad idea to have a 'plan b', which is what that trash thing does ;)
[05:10] <sam> nny: im half way done with the ionstall cd the live cd is toppin out at 80k
[05:11] <sam> ;/
[05:11] <nny> sam i use cedega cause i am lazy and they can use the 5 bucks a month, but it works with wine too.. but IMHO its worth it to have the cedega teams updates
[05:11] <morvok> AstroZombie: STOP, my bad. got ya in the wrong place.
[05:11] <nny> sam hmm
[05:11] <Astrozombie> OH NOE I SAVED IT
[05:11] <rusher> WOW sucked on Crossover
[05:11] <nny> sam livecd and install are on and the same in edgy
[05:11] <sam> hrmm
[05:11] <nny> sam crap the link i sent you was to edubuntu :(
[05:11] <rusher> Crossover is on torrent by the way
[05:11] <morvok> AstroZombie: you are looking for the line net.ipv4.conf.default.forwarding=1
[05:11] <morvok> AstroZombie: remove the #
[05:11] <nny> of course there is always torrents :D
[05:11] <sam> nny http://ubuntu.linux-bg.org/releases/edgy/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso thats the file thats almost done
[05:12] <sam> nny: the one u gave me is edu something
[05:12] <sam> ahh ok
[05:12] <Astrozombie> Mr. Morvok, its already 1.
[05:12] <nny> can't you install from live cd
[05:12] <nny> sam yeah sorry
[05:12] <sam> nny: so kill it?
[05:12] <nny> wait not yet
[05:12] <sam> k
[05:12] <morvok> AstroZombie: remove the # from the front of it
[05:12] <nny> anyone? can you install from edgy live cd, i seem to remember thats how i did it
[05:12] <rusher> I did nny
[05:12] <nny> ok yeah sam desktop cd does install as well
[05:12] <Astrozombie> oh but it says read only
[05:13] <Astrozombie> How do i save my changes.
[05:13] <SilentDis> nny:  that's the main way of installing ubuntu, from the livecd :)
[05:13] <nny> lol thought so
[05:13] <nny> yeah sam kill install cd and just download live cd
[05:13] <morvok> AstroZombie: thats because you weren't using gksudo when you started your text editor.
[05:13] <nny> sam ever seen beryl?
[05:13] <harry> does ubuntu support lightscribe when burning a CD?
[05:13] <sam> nny: newp
[05:13] <Astrozombie> How do i do that.
[05:13] <harry> or is there a software that supports lightscribe?
[05:13] <Astrozombie> sudo gedit?
[05:13] <sam> nny: keep downloading the edu file?
[05:14] <morvok> AstroZombie: what editor are you using?
[05:14] <nny> heheh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0ZtcxHUSDQ
[05:14] <SilentDis> hmm... lightscribe under linux... let me do some research harry :)
[05:14] <nny> sam sorry that was pebkac on my end, no need for edu cd
[05:14] <harry> SilentDis: thanks
[05:14] <harry> !lightscribe
[05:14] <nny> GF is vacuuming and cleaning, tends to distract
[05:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lightscribe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:14] <nalioth> Astrozombie: gksudo
[05:14] <Astrozombie> im using Edit
[05:14] <nny> sam http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0ZtcxHUSDQ
[05:14] <SilentDis> harry:  http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadSection/linux/index.aspx
[05:14] <nalioth> !tell Astrozombie about gksudo
[05:14] <Astrozombie> Gedit..
[05:14] <sam> nny: so continue on with the file im downloading and kill the edu?
[05:14] <nny> sam yes
[05:14] <nny> sam just the desktop cd
[05:14] <morvok> AstroZombie: run gksudo edit /etc/sysctl.conf
[05:14] <rusher> AUTOMATIX BLEEDER HAS LIGHTSCRIBE SOFTWARE
[05:14] <juano> Astrozombie: gksudo is for proper GUI executing as root
[05:15] <morvok> AstroZombie: run gksudo gedit /etc/sysctl.conf
[05:15] <SilentDis> !automatix
[05:15] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:15] <nalioth> rusher: watch the caps please
[05:15] <nny> lol
[05:15] <Astrozombie> So GKSUDO is only used in terminal right?
[05:15] <nalioth> Astrozombie: it can be used in the "run program" dialog, too
[05:15] <edrex> anybody know of a working mirror for the PLF repos? freecontrib is missing
[05:15] <Astrozombie> Theres a run program dialog?
[05:15] <Astrozombie> :o
[05:16] <nalioth> Astrozombie: alt-F2
[05:16] <sam> nny: that video is the kde? or another window manager
[05:16] <harry> SilentDis: its an RPM. how can i install it on ubuntu?
[05:16] <SilentDis> harry:  even better, a howto on the ubuntu forums - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=106197
[05:16] <nalioth> harry: try to stay away from RPMS
[05:16] <juano> has anyone made motorola rokr E1 with itunes sync under Linux???
[05:16] <SilentDis> harry:  you can use alien to convert the rpm into a deb package
[05:16] <bulmer> whats wrong with rpms?
[05:16] <SilentDis> !alien
[05:16] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[05:16] <Astrozombie> How would i do that if a select a file to be edited from the file system?
[05:16] <morvok> AstroZombie: run gksudo gedit /etc/sysctl.conf
[05:16] <user___> hello,  would any one be able to help with ubuntu 6.10.. I can't switch to virtual terminals, the screen is all garbled , using ATI radeon x800, thx
[05:16] <xlr8n4d> So did the prior versions before Edgy support wireless USB adapters well, from what it sounds like now is not a good time to try and have them work for me.
[05:16] <nalioth> SilentDis: that is not recommended
[05:16] <nalioth> !rpm
[05:16] <harry> SilentDis: and is 'alien' an application that i have to install?
[05:17] <rusher> no
[05:17] <nalioth> !alien
[05:17] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[05:17] <nny> sam that appears to be gnome
[05:17] <SilentDis> nalioth:  yeah, another case of !worksforme I guess.
[05:17] <rusher> send me a im on gaim user____
[05:17] <juano> bulmer:  sudo apt-get install alien
[05:17] <SilentDis> harry:  check out that 2nd link I sent you... it's on the ubuntu forums.
[05:17] <harry> SilentDis: ok
[05:17] <bulmer> juano: i didnt ask for that
[05:17] <nny> sam but it works with either.. beryl is like metacity (it's the window manager, not the desktop manager (ie gnome or kde)
[05:17] <nalioth> SilentDis: why don't you and harry join me in #ubuntu-classroom ?
[05:17] <theflyingfool> are there any window managers like gnome that use less resources
[05:17] <juano> bulmer: sorry thought someone was askin for it
[05:17] <nalioth> theflyingfool: many
[05:18] <Astrozombie> MOrvok! DOne!
[05:18] <Astrozombie> Now what do i do?
[05:18] <juano> has anyone made motorola rokr E1 with itunes sync under Linux???
[05:18] <sam> nny: cool i love the theme the default one i dont like
[05:18] <harry> nalioth: how?
[05:19] <nalioth> juano: please hold up on the request, there is nobody here that can help you, and you're becoming a "spammer" with it
[05:19] <sam> nny: 21mins till the d/l finshed
[05:19] <nalioth> harry: type /j #ubuntu-classroom <enter>
[05:19] <smoenux> I'm having problem with Google Vid files. gvi plays fine with Totem on Ubuntu, BUT I just brought back a DVD from work (created on MacOS X) and I don't have permissions to copy the gvi files from the DVD. The avi and mpg files I wrote to the DVD works fine, just the gvi's ... anyone know why ?
[05:19] <morvok> AstroZombie: okay, now packet throwing over WEP will work after a reboot, but on the client machines you need to edit /etc/resolv.conf and make it look the same as on your laptop.  this way when you type in names instead of numbers it knows howto translate them.
[05:20] <Astrozombie> See, now what you told me wont work.
[05:20] <Astrozombie> becuase i cant do that with an xbox
[05:20] <juano> nalioth well this is a help channel, so if no one responds what am i supposed to do?
[05:20] <Astrozombie> Back to the drawing board.
[05:20] <theflyingfool> are there any good wine how to sites other than the wine homepage
[05:20] <juano> nalioth plus i help all the time
[05:20] <morvok> AstroZombie: not a problem.
[05:20] <nalioth> juano: if you wait about 15 minutes between the SAME request, it'll be nicer for everyone
[05:20] <harry> SilentDis: the 2nd link says it doesnt support at all
[05:20] <nny_arrgh> sorry
[05:20] <juano> nalioth no one complains about it, just you nerd
[05:21] <nny_arrgh> !ubuntu-classroom
[05:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-classroom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:21] <SilentDis> harry:  i'm reading through the whole thing right now.
[05:21] <nny_arrgh> what is ubuntu classroom
[05:22] <juanchito2006> Hello, I 'm having trouble with my monitor, an HP L1706. After installing the ati driver and rebooting, the monitor gets out of the frequency range
[05:22] <nny_arrgh> can someone kick my old nick (nny) seems this connection is a bit buggy
[05:22] <Astrozombie> isnt there a program, that can do what im  trying to do.. and make it simple..
[05:22] <morvok> AstroZombie: on the xbox somewhere you there should be a network setting area.  you need to enter some information there..
[05:22] <nny_arrgh> sam in linux it's X server (basic core environment) + window manager (window decorations, behavior etc.) + desktop manager (KDE or gnome or xfce or any other of the thousands out there)
 in windows its (trademark secret juju) + (more juju) + explorer, for comparison :D
[05:23] <tonyyarusso> juano: Actually, a lot of us will complain about it.  Please do space out your requests for everyone's sake.
[05:23] <juano> tonyyarusso: ok
[05:23] <tonyyarusso> nny_arrgh: re: the nick, it will time out after a few minutes.
[05:23] <juano> tonyyarusso: sorry bout it
[05:23] <nny_arrgh> lol ok thanks tony
[05:23] <Astrozombie> all i have is auto obtain IP yes/no auto obtain dns yes/no  and the mac address
[05:23] <sam> hrmm
[05:23] <Astrozombie> will that help Morvok?
[05:24] <sam> hahahaha
[05:24] <CheyenneD> Where can I get drivers for a Buffalo Airstation WLI-CB-G54HP?
[05:24] <morvok> AstroZombie: that does help
[05:24] <sam> nny_arrgh: 14mins left
[05:24] <nny_arrgh> sam kk np
[05:24] <nny_arrgh> sam whatcha think about beryl?
[05:24] <Astrozombie> so should i reebot my ubuntu box?
[05:24] <nny_arrgh> astrozombie whatcha tryin to do?
[05:25] <Astrozombie> i dunno ask morvok.
[05:25] <juano> Astrozombie: what seems to be the problem??
[05:25] <morvok> AstroZombie: okay. on the wireless lan card in the laptop you have the Ip address and everything setup?
[05:25] <nny_arrgh> astro oh the gateway/ ap thing
[05:25] <Astrozombie> um my Laptop has no access points, and i think im using ethernet.
[05:26] <nny_arrgh> Astrozombie oh thought you were trying to setup a wireless ap, my bad (and btw, a wireless card can be an access point)
[05:26] <FeliLixTKhat> xlr8n4d ... Sorry about that, got bumped off the channel
[05:26] <Some_Person> ever since i had ubuntu breezy, i've had a windows/ubuntu dualboot working perfectly
[05:26] <Some_Person> until now
[05:26] <Astrozombie> nny how do i do that ?
[05:26] <Some_Person> i used the windows mbr
[05:26] <nny_arrgh> Astrozombie, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HostAP
[05:26] <xlr8n4d> FeliLixTKhat I saw that, Welcome Back
[05:26] <Some_Person> ubuntu loaded with BootPart
[05:26] <morvok> nny_arrgh: ip_forwarding and wep are installed, we are going to configure his wirelan and his xbox together
[05:27] <Some_Person> everything was fine
[05:27] <nny_arrgh> astrozombie it is a funciton of the card you have
[05:27] <Some_Person> until i installed windows vista
[05:27] <SurfnSanta> anyone know of a good RSS reader
[05:27] <SurfnSanta> for bobontu
[05:27] <Astrozombie> I hope
[05:27] <nny_arrgh> astrozombie only certain chipsets support it.. i have 5 or so orinoco cards i keep handy for such a thing
[05:27] <xlr8n4d> FeliLixTKhat where am I supposed to see an IM from you, can't we have a single window of our own?
[05:27] <Some_Person> now i get the vista mbr (instead of xp mbr), and the ubuntu choice gives an error
[05:27] <SurfnSanta> !rss
[05:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:27] <Astrozombie> Will an intell work?
[05:27] <nny_arrgh> morvok just using ad-hoc eh?
[05:27] <SurfnSanta> !atom
[05:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about atom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:28] <nny_arrgh> Astrozombie what you are doing now is fine ATM
[05:28] <Some_Person> how can i load ubuntu correctly from the vista mbr?
[05:28] <FeliLixTKhat> xlr8n4d try to find me on MSN use my alias FelixTkhat
[05:28] <nny_arrgh> morvok has the juju goin for ya..
[05:28] <Astrozombie> no xbox doesnt connect to ad hoc.
[05:28] <Astrozombie> i tried that with windows
[05:28] <Astrozombie> but i also i have buffalo wireless card laying around.
[05:29] <nny_arrgh> hmm morvok does master work with his card?
[05:29] <nny_arrgh> morvok sorry to interrupt you guys
[05:29] <xlr8n4d> FeliLixTKhat try me there xlr8n4d@hotmail.com  I cannot use just your alias to locate you.
[05:29] <Astrozombie> btw, my laptop has intell 2200 BG
[05:30] <SilentDis> take care all, gotta go :)
[05:31] <nny_arrgh> ping...
[05:31] <user___> any one available to help with terminal/console issues mine is garbled, ubuntu edgy 6.10, radeon x800, ?  thx
[05:32] <borg> get a geforce, they're the best!
[05:32] <Astrozombie> nny so  you think my it will work?
[05:33] <user___> are there lots of issues with rati cards?
[05:33] <tonyyarusso> juanchito2006: All are connected, just how many are paying attention ;)
[05:33] <borg> juanchito2006, looks like only 10 to 20
[05:33] <juanchito2006> tonyyarusso: Good piont
[05:33] <juanchito2006> *point
[05:33] <borg> user___, you'd be better off with an nvidia card in linux
[05:33] <user___> ok, I'll do thatm thx .,..
[05:33] <juanchito2006> user___: ATi on ubuntu is hell
[05:34] <nny_arrgh> heheh before you all get all crazy on ATI, just know my GF has it running flawless on her laptop with beryl
[05:34] <nny_arrgh> and she did the whole thing
[05:34] <borg> that's why i put aside my Radeon 9800 and bought me a GeForce 7600GS
[05:34] <cheatersrealm> is there a way to get 2.18 kernel on edgy?
[05:35] <cheatersrealm> (without compiling from source)
[05:35] <nny_arrgh> i would say that yeah nvidia=better (i have a 7300go) but ATi is getting better IMHO
[05:35] <juanchito2006> I've been able to install the driver but my monitor gets crazy
[05:35] <morvok> AstroZombie: okay, now to setup your wireless card.
[05:35] <juanchito2006> the ati driver
[05:35] <borg> nny_arrgh, try running your radeon in dual monitor mode where both monitors are above 1280x1024 and see how beryl will look afterwards
[05:35] <nny_arrgh> oh did i mention she has dual monitor support for beryl with one big cube?
[05:35] <user___> is it worth the aggravation to try to get my ati card to work?
[05:35] <fr500> nny_arrgh: get an 8800gtx for xmas :p these rock!
[05:36] <borg> fr500, does my 7600GS rock?
[05:36] <nny_arrgh> borg well she is at 1024x768 since the bug for max res is capped at 22somehting
[05:36] <morvok> AstroZombie: your wireless card is wlan0 no?
[05:36] <fr500> borg: i came out from a 6800GT, i guess it's alright
[05:36] <xevix> powerbook G4, how to get volume/brightness keys working?  i heard of pbbuttonsd but i dunno how to configure, docs please?
[05:36] <nny_arrgh> borg so yeah, i am aware of that issue :D
[05:36] <borg> nny_arrgh, 2048x2048
[05:36] <wastrel> "ubuntu"
[05:37] <juanchito2006> 7600GS is quite good but not as good as the 7600GT
[05:37] <nny_arrgh> borg, heheh yeah once again, this asus laptop has nvidia (only 7300go, but i have wow running at 30 fps, no biggie)
[05:37] <nny_arrgh> so personally i wouldn't buy an ATI at this time
[05:37] <Astrozombie> Hey i says my Card is Ad HOc and infastructure mode.
[05:37] <Astrozombie> *it
[05:38] <borg> i like the nvidia technology cause i can now view my tv card's pictures without having the picture of the tv being this thign that's not even part of the frame buffer
[05:38] <Astrozombie> So it might work with HOST ap?
[05:38] <SurfnSanta> anyone here use RSS
[05:38] <morvok> AstroZombie: what does it say when you ifconfig wlan0
[05:38] <borg> with nvidia my tv's video is actually a part of the frame buffer so beryl can even twist it and play with it in cube mode like as if it's a regular video
[05:39] <borg> that's just amazing, of course i'm talking about my tv player, "tvtime" and my hauppage tv tuner
[05:39] <Astrozombie> What info do you want me to give you?
[05:39] <SurfnSanta> anyone know of an RSS panel item?
[05:39] <SurfnSanta> so ic an add RSS links
[05:40] <morvok> AstroZombie: all of it.
[05:40] <Astrozombie> I dont think im allowed to copy and paste
[05:40] <nny> bleh
[05:40] <Music_Shuffle> !pastebin
[05:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:40] <Music_Shuffle> ?
[05:40] <nny> dcd again
[05:40] <Astrozombie> ok thanks
[05:40] <borg> is anyone familiar with styling their firefox with userChrome.css?
[05:40] <nny> like talking on a cell phone and being disconnected, but you keep talking anyways
[05:40] <avuton> How do I have it use suspend-to-disk by default when there's no activity on my computer?
[05:40] <nalioth> borg: just ask your question
[05:41] <borg> nalioth, that is my question
[05:41] <nalioth> borg: i'm sure a lot of us have
[05:41] <nny> nalioth, whats ubuntu-classroom BTW
[05:41] <juanchito2006> I 'm having trouble with my monitor, an HP L1706. After installing the ati driver and rebooting, the monitor gets out of the frequency range, obliging me to use the more basic driver
[05:41] <nny> just curious
[05:41] <nalioth> nny: join it and see :)
[05:41] <sam> nny: burning the cd now
[05:41] <nny> sam cool
[05:41] <nny> nalioth nice stuff...
[05:42] <avuton> r8732766
[05:42] <Astrozombie> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38841/
[05:42] <Astrozombie> there you go mr MOvok
[05:42] <nny> nalioth be nice if there where more of these.. like advanced stuff.. or maybe a python or bash classroom
[05:42] <morvok> AstroZombie: can you paste all the results from ifconfig.
[05:43] <Astrozombie> im not allowed here
[05:43] <nalioth> Astrozombie: use a pastebin and bring us the URL  :)
[05:43] <morvok> :)
[05:43] <borg> ok, does anyone know how to style their navigation bar in firefox?
[05:43] <borg> like button padding for specifics
[05:44] <nalioth> borg: have you been to irc.mozilla.org ?
[05:44] <borg> i dont believe i have
[05:44] <nalioth> borg: that would be the place i'd go. they are all about mozilla products
[05:44] <borg> aight, i go there now
[05:45] <Astrozombie> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38843/
[05:46] <nny> sam btw ubuntu-classroom may be something of interest to you...
[05:46] <morvok> AstroZombie: looks good.. which on of those cards is /not/ connected to your router?
[05:47] <Astrozombie> eth1
[05:47] <Astrozombie> shouldnt be.
[05:47] <Astrozombie> eth0 is my Ethernet NIC
[05:47] <morvok> perfect. fire up the xbox.
[05:47] <morvok> go into the network setting.
[05:48] <Astrozombie> i havent even restarted the linux box.
[05:48] <tom__> how do I add something to my PATH?
[05:48] <morvok> AstroZombie: okay, go for a reboot, I'll get some soda and crackers.
[05:48] <Trixsey> My volume control is somehow broken, how do I fix it?
[05:48] <sam> nny: yeah i'll check that out
[05:48] <sam> nny: ok ready to install the system
[05:49] <clearscreen> guys, I've been reading that ALSA supports multiple channels and
[05:49] <clearscreen>               OSS does not, but I can't seem to get sound from multiple
[05:49] <sam> i selected the start or install option
[05:49] <clearscreen>               channels at the same time, how come?
[05:49] <Astrozombie> i am rebooting as we speak.
[05:49] <clearscreen> and sorry for the screw up
[05:49] <nny> sam.. kk you have booted the livecd you downloaded?
[05:49] <morvok> AstroZombie: out of crackers...
[05:49] <clearscreen> there: guys, I've been reading that ALSA supports multiple channels and OSS does not, but I can't seem to get sound from multiple channels at the same time, how come?
[05:50] <Astrozombie> yeah it doesnt see an access point.
[05:50] <Astrozombie> but for some reason it shows the one i setup on the windows side of the laptop.
[05:50] <sam> nny: yeah
[05:50] <morvok> AstroZombie: we have to setup the ebox still :)
[05:50] <Trixsey> ehm
[05:50] <Trixsey> I have no "gnome-volume-control", where do I get it?
[05:51] <Astrozombie> what shall i put for the acces point on the Xbox.
[05:51] <morvok> AstroZombie: go into the network setting in the xbox.
[05:51] <Astrozombie> ok
[05:52] <morvok> AstroZombie: what does it say.
[05:52] <sam> nny: ok im loaded in the live cd
[05:52] <nny> sam ok, lets see what the kernel running on it says about your hardware now
[05:52] <Astrozombie> it says essid, Auto obtain Ip, auto obtain dns.
 right click panel ... add to panel ... select volume control
[05:53] <Trixsey> It's in the panel already
[05:53] <nny> sam, in a terminal type uname -a and post the result
[05:53] <clearscreen> I've been reading that ALSA supports multiple channels and OSS does not, but I can't seem to get sound from multiple channels at the same time, how come?
[05:53] <juanchito2006> !grub
[05:53] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:53] <morvok> AstroZombie: turn off the auto stuff.
[05:53] <Trixsey> but I don't *have* the package
[05:53] <sam> nny:  kernel 2.6.17-18-gneric
[05:53] <Trixsey> I'm missing the package
[05:53] <nny> sam curiosity, not sure what kernel 6.10 has by default, could just google it but thats a lil help
[05:53] <Astrozombie> ok
[05:53] <Astrozombie> so what shall i put for ip and dns.
[05:54] <wayco> sorry .. no help from me
[05:54] <nny> sam ok, can you post the output of lspci to pastebin for me again?
[05:54] <morvok> AstroZombie: ip= 192.168.0.233
[05:54] <sam> nny yep one sec btw lspci | grep Audio comes up as unkown device
[05:54] <Astrozombie> ESSID?
[05:54] <morvok> and on the laptop go to the terminal and type cat /etc/resolv.conf.  copy those numbers for the DNS.
[05:54] <Astrozombie> what do put for that.
[05:55] <nny> sam hrrm ok
[05:55] <morvok> AstroZombie: for the ESSID is what you setup with the networkmanager.
[05:55] <nny> sam np we can dig deeper
[05:55] <juanchito2006> I can't play stepmania
[05:55] <Astrozombie> so i just put some thing random?
[05:55] <sam> nny: crap wireless network doesn't work i have no cat 5
[05:56] <nny> sam can you post the model number of that laptop again, and if you have any direct info on what type of soundcard you have that would help to
[05:56] <sam> nny: so I cant get the internet on the live cd to paste the results
[05:56] <sam> nny: should I run the install and just install?
[05:56] <nny> sam if it says unknown than we still have a situation to handle
[05:56] <sam> nny: gateway MX3702
[05:56] <morvok> AstroZombie: the ESSID should be in the network manager
[05:56] <Astrozombie> Do i want dchp? And i named the Essid Fart.
[05:56] <nny> sam well you can, but it'd be just as easy to figure out the hardware you have, and look in the kernel config, etc and see what the problem is first so we know how to deal wiht it
[05:57] <bigfuzzyjesus> when ever i try to join #xubuntu i get this #xubuntu #ubuntu-ops :Forwarding to another channel
[05:57] <clearscreen> I've been reading that ALSA supports multiple channels and OSS does not, but I can't seem to get sound from multiple channels at the same time, how come?
[05:57] <sam> nny: alright how do I get the wireless internet to work on the laptop in the live cd?
[05:57] <morvok> AstroZombie: you can try DHCP but it probably won't work. we want static IP's.
[05:57] <wasabi_> clearscreen: OSS supports that too.
[05:57] <nny> sam k gimme a sec gonna look deeper, if you can get a chipset for it by number (ie ATI chipset x) for that laptop than we would have a better lead
[05:57] <wasabi_> clearscreen: But they both completely rely on your sound cards ability to do hardware mixing.
[05:57] <nny> sam .. hmm can you do an iwconfig in terminal and tell me if anything shows up?
[05:57] <wasabi_> clearscreen: Unless you introduce stuff like dmix into the picture.
[05:58] <clearscreen> hmmm
[05:58] <Astrozombie> is network manager under system>administration.
[05:58] <clearscreen> so there's no way in making it work out of the box, darn :P
[05:58] <wasabi_> Other than dmix, no.
[05:58] <morvok> AstroZombie: network-admin I think
[05:58] <sam> nny: it shows the interfaces
[05:58] <clearscreen> NOTE: For ALSA 1.0.9rc2 and higher you don't need to setup dmix. Dmix is enabled as default for soundcards which don't support hw mixing.
[05:59] <clearscreen> I have 1.0.13
[05:59] <nny> hmm gateways site says : "High definition 2-channel audio".. heh thanks for being so infrmative, gateway
[05:59] <Astrozombie> i have system>administration>networking
[05:59] <clearscreen> yet, it does not mix, any thoughts wasabi_ ?
[05:59] <morvok> okay..
[05:59] <nny> sam, kk whats the name of your access point?
[05:59] <juanchito2006> !display
[05:59] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:59] <Astrozombie> what do ineed for the static IP?
[05:59] <Astrozombie> on the laptop side
[05:59] <wasabi_> clearscreen: Nope, none at all.
[05:59] <juanchito2006> !frequency
[05:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about frequency - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:59] <clearscreen> k, thanks though
[05:59] <sam> nny: perhaps this will help http://support.gateway.com/support/srt/docs.asp
[06:00] <sam> nny: the name is TP
[06:00] <jejh> would u guys think a p2 300mhz, 256mb ram and a 120gb hd could serve ok as an fileserver for 1 user ?
[06:00] <morvok> AstroZombie: go with 10.0.0.1 and on the xbox 10.0.0.2
[06:00] <nny> sam cool thanks.. is the wireless light on your laptop?  (is it enabled via the laptop hardware?)
[06:00] <sam> yes
[06:00] <sam> the light is on
[06:00] <morvok> jejh: a 486 could.
[06:00] <jejh> ahh okey cool
[06:00] <Astrozombie> subnets and default gateway.
[06:01] <nny> sam whats the serial number of that beast? the link you sent didn't transfer that info (cookie)
[06:01] <zspada15_> jejh: thats way more than enough
[06:01] <nny> sam k, there are two ways you could do this, i a gonna tell you the command in terminal, alternatively, you could go to System, Administration, Networking and drill down fromt here
[06:01] <borg> eh, not even the people of irc.mozilla.org know anything
[06:02] <morvok> AstroZombie: for the laptop?
[06:02] <jejh> cool :> any other cool stuff i could run on it? :p
[06:02] <sam> nny: http://pastebin.com/844994
[06:02] <nny> sam for me, the command is quicker, for the time being, but the admin config works better as it saves preferences etc.
[06:02] <Astrozombie> heres that thing you wanted MORVOK http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38845
[06:02] <zspada15_> jejh: you could run ssh, and ftp, and samba if you wanted
[06:02] <Astrozombie> yeah for both.
[06:02] <jejh> nice :>
[06:02] <nny> sam nice thanks
[06:02] <sam> nny: tried using the config it wont let me select the list
[06:02] <nny> sam ok
[06:02] <sam> nny: so cmdline will have to do
[06:03] <jejh> should i use 6.06 or 6.10 for that pc?
[06:03] <nny> sam when you did iwconfig what was the network assignment (i.e. eth0, or eth1)/
[06:03] <zspada15_> jejh: i do reccomend using 6.10 with minimal gui prettyness
[06:03] <jejh> aye
[06:03] <jejh> was thinking without gui hehe
[06:03] <zspada15_> jejh: actually xubuntu would be well suited
[06:03] <Astrozombie> What do i put for default router.
[06:03] <Astrozombie> Morvok
[06:03] <morvok> AstroZombie: on the laptop ip=10.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 xbox ip 10.0.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 gateway 10.0.0.1
[06:04] <zspada15_> jejh: but if your confident in command line than go without the desktop environment
[06:04] <sam> nny: lo, wlan, eth0
[06:04] <Astrozombie> ubuntu, gave me a defualt subnet of 255.0.0.0
[06:04] <nny> sam does eth0 have any additional info next to it
[06:04] <morvok> AstroZombie: thats fine.
[06:04] <sam> damn, my laptop just died rebooting with the power cord
[06:05] <sam> nny: hold on gotta boot up again
[06:05] <nny> it should show one interface as a wireless card with details, although unassociated
[06:05] <nny> sam k
[06:05] <Astrozombie> ok PRimary and secondary DNS?
[06:05] <morvok> 192.168.0.1 and 216.165.129.158
[06:05] <zspada15_> Astrozombie: 4.2.2.2 and 192.168.0.1
[06:06] <zspada15_> or that
[06:06] <morvok> 192.168.0.1 and 216.165.129.158
[06:06] <zspada15_> Astrozombie: listen to morvok
[06:06] <andoh> Someone please help me out here. I need it.
[06:06] <Astrozombie> ok it should work now
[06:07] <LameBMX> !anyone | andoh
[06:07] <ubotu> andoh: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:07] <andoh> I tried to install the nvidia drivers for edgy and it keeps saying that there's an invalid kernel module or non existant nvidia card when i actually have an nvidia 7300 gs.
[06:07] <sam> nny: ok booted back u[
[06:07] <morvok> AstroZombie: hopefully.
[06:07] <sam> up*
[06:07] <morvok> AstroZombie: we might need to go through a few things if it doesn't
[06:07] <Astrozombie> UNABLE TO FIND ACCESS POINT
[06:07] <ShoeUnited> >.>
[06:07] <andoh> i followed the instructions from the ubuntu website.
[06:08] <andoh> and it barfed with the previously declared error.
[06:08] <nny> sam in that pastebin you sent me of the laptop, it has a "Support" and "docs" link next to the motherboard, an ATI RC415MD... google results show only foreign sites, so maybe you can drill down from there.. i am going to do the same. trying to get a "sound card part chipset X out of this so we can check the kernel config for that kernel and see what the deal is
[06:08] <ShoeUnited> Hi everyone, I did something that should leave marks on my head for stupidity.
[06:08] <bruenig> !hi | ShoeUnited
[06:08] <slicky> can i relese a music album under GNU/GPL?
[06:08] <ubotu> ShoeUnited: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[06:08] <morvok> AstroZombie: are the ESSID's the same?
[06:08] <LameBMX> nice ShoeUnited
[06:08] <Astrozombie> MY ESSID DOESNT EVNE SHOW UP MR MORVOK
[06:08] <andoh> someone wanna tackle my issue?
[06:08] <nny> sam how old is this laptop BTW? new?
[06:08] <Astrozombie> yep FART, and FART
[06:08] <morvok> ok.
[06:08] <bruenig> slicky, read the gnu/gpl and then tell me if that makes any sense
[06:08] <andoh> i got x11 right now.
[06:08] <LameBMX> sorry andoh im a ati user
[06:08] <ShoeUnited> I'm gonna need some help, I haven't come across this issue on the forums, (though I doubt anyone would do this).
[06:08] <sam> nny: just got it in the mail yesterday
[06:08] <andoh> but, if i try to install the nvidia driver.
[06:09] <andoh> it fucks up.
[06:09] <andoh> sorry about the language.
[06:09] <LameBMX> ShoeUnited, im a n00b so ill prolly be of no assistance
[06:09] <LameBMX> ShoeUnited, but your best bet is to just ask
[06:09] <morvok> AstroZombie: paste ifconfig
[06:09] <ShoeUnited> Here's my problem: I uninstalled lib*mesa* T_T and the power went out, and the only net within 50 miles is PeoplePC on a windows machine.
[06:10] <nny> sam ha i got an idea.. i am gonna peep the inf file that comes with the driver
[06:10] <andoh> i'm not a complete newbie. but, i'm stumped.
[06:10] <morvok> AstroZombie: and below it type what the xbox setting are.
[06:10] <sam> nny: k
[06:10] <Astrozombie> heres that thing you wanted MORVOK http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38846
[06:10] <LameBMX> ShoeUnited, im not familiar with lib*mesa
[06:10] <nny> sam do you mind giving me the serial number? i am unaware of any potential security issues with this
[06:10] <LameBMX> what is that
[06:10] <sam> nny: i now have internet to
[06:10] <nny> sam errm,.... heh ok
[06:10] <sam> nny: if you can accept it in a notice or pm sure
[06:10] <nny> sam lspci still say unknown?
[06:11] <ShoeUnited> I need to know how to install all things related to lib mesa so that I can get the gui relaunched without using apt-get, or how to make apt-get install off a cd :s
[06:11] <sam> nny: for audio? yes
[06:11] <nny> sam i can.. but freenode is being weird about PMS, let me try to pm you agian
[06:11] <nny> again*
[06:11] <morvok> AstroZombie: can you paste it again with your xbox settings typed below it please.
[06:11] <andoh> i do the 'sudo apt-get update'
[06:11] <sam> j
[06:11] <ShoeUnited> Well, by saying lib mesa, i mean all the mesa libraries like: libglu1-mesa_*
[06:12] <LameBMX> ShoeUnited,  hmmm did you man apt-get cuz im pretty sure it can install from local sources ie cdrom with the liveCD in it
[06:12] <nny> sam appears pm still doesn't like me.. wanna email it to me?
[06:12] <slicky> burner: it only for softwares?  but i mean.. if i release a cd with music and the "source" of the tracks.. the pure tracks that i recorded.. will i be able to put a GNU/GPL license over it then?
[06:12] <ShoeUnited> Well, I don't have a liveCD but I didn't think to man apt-get lol
[06:12] <nny> sam alternatively, if you are feeling geeky. you can download the audio or cipset driver and nose around yourself.. lots of useful info in the inf files
[06:12] <ShoeUnited> I'm on 24.4k baud, so :s
[06:12] <andoh> and then do the 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common' and then run 'sudo nvidia-xconfig' then control+alt+backspace and X11 says I don't have the proper nvidia kernel module or even an nvidia card in the first place.
[06:12] <prurigro> anyone know how to get rid of the hybernate/suspend options in gnome ? I unchecked can_hibernate and can_suspend in gconf-editor but the options are still there, and they still suspend/hibernate when I click them ...
[06:13] <ShoeUnited> :D
[06:13] <LameBMX> ShoeUnited, did you apt-get clean or anything lately? if not than they may still be local
[06:13] <nny> sam join #nny
[06:13] <ShoeUnited> I think I had set it to auto-clean
[06:13] <nny> sam that should be a ample work around until i figure out why om hates me
[06:13] <nny> pm*
[06:13] <Astrozombie> heres that thing you wanted MORVOK http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38847
[06:13] <LameBMX> ShoeUnited, does the windoze box have a nic in it?
[06:14] <andoh> I've tried everything I could.
[06:14] <andoh> Arrgh.
[06:14] <LameBMX> ShoeUnited, cuz you could always enable internet sharing and go about it that way (and wait on the download)
[06:14] <ShoeUnited> *shudders* I could give it a try, but you know how window's is. lol
[06:14] <LameBMX> eh
[06:15] <LameBMX> im not a n00b on windows lol
[06:15] <LameBMX> its just windows ... run the sharing wizard .. reboot ... and if it dont work repeat
[06:15] <ShoeUnited> I tried a bit ago with a working gui and a buddy. I could read his volumes but he was damned to read mine, then I lost his feh it was a big mess.
[06:15] <LameBMX> its windows .. things dont always work the first time
[06:15] <ShoeUnited> Yeah hehe
[06:15] <LameBMX> feh?
[06:15] <andoh> Is noone able to help me?
[06:16] <ShoeUnited> feh = general disgust without using the actual f word pronounced F-eh
[06:16] <borg> meh
[06:16] <ShoeUnited> cousin of meh
[06:16] <borg> yep
[06:16] <Astrozombie> i have a feeling it aint gonna work.
[06:16] <Astrozombie> :(
[06:16] <andoh> meh^V/c&2
[06:16] <ShoeUnited> But meh is more disenchantment or disassociation or lack of caring.
[06:16] <timothy> how do I create the apache group and the apache user, a program, campsite, requires it.
[06:17] <LameBMX> ShoeUnited, i think networking the two together would be a lot easier than tryin to install a winmodem in nix
[06:17] <andoh> Now help me.
[06:17] <borg> actually i thought feh came before meh
[06:17] <andoh> If anyone knows anything about nvidia and edgy.
[06:17] <hhhjr> Eve everyone, I just recompiled my ubuntu 2.6.17-10 kernel to 2.6.19.1 and after a sucessful build when rebooting I get this error "ALERT! /dev/sda1 does not exist. Dropping to shell." this was the second time I recompiled it? any ideas?
[06:17] <ShoeUnited> Hehe yeah, but I was hoping to force apt-get to install from deb packages.
[06:17] <po0f> andoh: I have it working just fine.
[06:17] <Astrozombie> MORVOK are you thinking?
[06:17] <ShoeUnited> cause I can download and burn just fine, mount np.  it's just getting the debs installed that I need help on.
[06:17] <CheyenneD> WHere do I get a mp3 codec?
[06:17] <timothy> a
[06:18] <timothy> andoh: I do
[06:18] <andoh> po0f: what did you do and what card do you have?
[06:18] <andoh> timothy: same question.
[06:18] <morvok> AstroZombie: yes.
[06:18] <timothy> andoh: I installed envy
[06:18] <po0f> andoh: Installed `nvidia-glx`; FX5500.
[06:18] <andoh> I tried envy.
[06:18] <andoh> i'm using envy.
[06:18] <Astrozombie> MORVOK am i doing an Ad Hoc here?
[06:18] <andoh> nvidia barfs.
[06:18] <borg> does anyone here know how to modify navigation bar padding with userChrome.css?
[06:18] <po0f> andoh: Except I manually edited my xorg.conf.
[06:18] <aleka> I am trying to get real player to listen to bbc radio.. for some reason I can not see it in the repos [ i have the canonical repo enabled which says should contain Realplayer] , I then installed directly form the real.com website and run the install scriopt.. but the app is not listed anywhere, typing "realplay" or "realplayer" in the terminal is not doing anything... Any ideas guys?
[06:18] <ShoeUnited-AFK> I'm gonna go read man apt-get
[06:19] <timothy> andoh: you have the same question about apache
[06:19] <LameBMX> mp
[06:19] <andoh> po0f: How did you edit it?
[06:19] <juanchito2006> andoh: !nvidia
[06:19] <andoh> !nvidia
[06:19] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:19] <po0f> andoh: Changed `Driver "nv"` to `Driver "nvidia"`.
[06:19] <andoh> hmm.
[06:19] <andoh> okay.
[06:19] <hhhjr>  any help on this one please? "ALERT! /dev/sda1 does not exist. Dropping to shell."
[06:20] <po0f> hhhjr: Looks like you're missing a hard drive.  ;)
[06:20] <alexcamilo> Hello, I have a startup question. technically its for debian but i was told debian and ubuntu use the same startup scripts thing so i'l see if anyone knows here.   I'm trying to put the equivilent of a specific user running "startx" into a shell script and have it run when the computer starts up. but X wont start unless i run the script directly on the computer using the shell on the screen. i cant run the script remotley and it wont 
[06:20] <alexcamilo> i am using su user -c startx
[06:20] <andoh> hhhjr: sounds like it's not mounting.
[06:20] <andoh> hhhjr: Check yer hardware.
[06:20] <CheyenneD> WHere do I get a mp3 codec?
[06:20] <andoh> hhhjr: and try a live disk.
[06:21] <bruenig> !quicktime | CheyenneD
[06:21] <ubotu> CheyenneD: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:21] <andoh> hhhjr: try to mount it from a live cd.
[06:21] <aleka> any help with installing realplayer?
[06:21] <bruenig> aleka, what do you need
[06:21] <hhhjr> po0f yes I understand that but I compiled a new kernel and after a successful build I get that error?
[06:21] <Astrozombie> MORVOK I guess, could buy that stupid USB ICS dongle at Walmart.
[06:21] <aleka> bruenig: reposting what I put in abt a min ago....
[06:21] <aleka> I am trying to get real player to listen to bbc radio.. for some reason I can not see it in the repos [ i have the canonical repo enabled which says should contain Realplayer] , I then installed directly form the real.com website and run the install scriopt.. but the app is not listed anywhere, typing "realplay" or "realplayer" in the terminal is not doing anything... Any ideas guys?
[06:21] <Hyouketsu> this is a stupid question by why hasnt anyone made executables run as well in linux as it does in windows.
[06:21] <andoh> hhhjr: try to boot from a disk, go in, recompile the kernel more specifically and mabye you'll get it. sometimes you might activate something and it'll make it barf unexpectedly.
[06:21] <hhhjr> I can still boot into the existing kernel
[06:22] <morvok> AstroZombie: I just found a document for what we are trying to do :)
[06:22] <Astrozombie> :o
[06:22] <jejh> is it a big difference between 6.06 and 6.06.1 ?
[06:22] <Astrozombie> ethernet, wifi broadcasting?
[06:22] <andoh> Now.
[06:22] <andoh> I installed nvidia-glx or whatever.
[06:22] <Astrozombie> I hope it works, becuase im gonna use for my Nintendo DS too.
[06:22] <andoh> I should edit the xconf file?
[06:22] <po0f> hhhjr: Which kernel version did you compile? 2.6.19?  2.6.20?
[06:23] <hhhjr> andoh this was my 2nd attempt and I thought I might have missed something in the menuconfig as I have a sata drive
[06:23] <bruenig> aleka, open a fresh terminal and do the following, wget http://mirror.xmu.edu.cn/archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/pool/main/r/realplay/realplay_10.0.8-0ubuntu1_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i realplay_10.0.8-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[06:23] <hhhjr> 2.6.19.1
[06:23] <bruenig> aleka, everything after the comma, one one line including the &&
[06:23] <bruenig> on one*
[06:23] <Hyouketsu> this is a stupid question by why hasnt anyone made executables run as well in linux as it does in windows.
[06:23] <bruenig> !wine | Hyouketsu
[06:24] <ubotu> Hyouketsu: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:24] <po0f> hhhjr: Does your /etc/fstab use device or UUID names?
[06:24] <timothy> does anyone know how to add the user group for apache?
[06:24] <hhhjr> po0f sorry kinda a newbie here
[06:24] <aleka> bruenig: thanks.. downloading...
[06:24] <po0f> timothy: Add the actual 'apache' group, or add a user to the apache group?
[06:24] <andoh> okay, wish me luck.
[06:24] <jejh> 6.06 or 6.10 for a p2 300mhz 256mb ram fileserver?
[06:24] <andoh> restarting x.
[06:25] <po0f> hhhjr: What does `grep sda1 /etc/fstab` spit at you?
[06:25] <hhhjr> So should I boot into the old kernel and then I could check ?
[06:25] <Flannel> jejh: 6.06, you don't need any of the benefits of 6.10, and could benefit from the stability of 6.06
[06:25] <link_36p> Is there a way i can manualy reset the screen resolution in wine?
[06:25] <po0f> hhhjr: Yes, I thought you already had.  :)
[06:25] <bigfuzzyjesus> jejh, 6.06 echo of flannel
[06:25] <aleka> slow connection thou..7K/s :)
[06:25] <morvok> AstroZombie: okay.  time for some manual stuff to make sure things are right.
[06:26] <po0f> hhhjr: Are you running right now with the new kernel?
[06:26] <mechtn> hey there
[06:26] <hhhjr> at the shell after it gives me the error?
[06:26] <mechtn> ubuntu is really great so far
[06:26] <timothy> po0f: well, I have a install script that fails with "chown 'root:apache' : invalid group"
[06:26] <mechtn> i just installed it on an old p2 333
[06:26] <bruenig> !hi | mechtn
[06:26] <ubotu> mechtn: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[06:26] <morvok> AstroZombie: fire up the terminal and hit su
[06:26] <hhhjr> no on another computer
[06:26] <co_japon_abis> stupid
[06:26] <bruenig> morvok, there is no su
[06:26] <co_japon_abis> mothe fucka
[06:26] <co_japon_abis> fuck bush
[06:26] <morvok> type su
[06:26] <Hyouketsu> whats the differences between debian  and ubumtu
[06:26] <Flannel> !ops
[06:26] <po0f> timothy: I use lighttpd; it's not apache but the user and group for it are 'www-data', if that helps.
[06:26] <bruenig> !ops | co_japon_abis
[06:26] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!
[06:26] <ubotu> co_japon_abis: Help! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!
[06:26] <link_36p> is there a way to reset the resultion in wine?
[06:27] <hhhjr> po0f gonna check
[06:27] <Astrozombie> what did i just do MR MORVOK?
[06:27] <Hobbsee> what/
[06:27] <QwertyM> lol
[06:27] <Flannel> morvok: su is not the correct method for use in ubuntu, it is not set up to handle that by default.
[06:27] <andoh> Okay, that didn't work.
[06:27] <Hobbsee> argh
[06:27] <andoh> It did the same error.
[06:27] <morvok> AstroZombie: you are know in the super user account.
[06:27] <Hyouketsu> whats the differences between debian  and ubuntu
[06:27] <idlemind> !su | idlemind
[06:27] <Astrozombie> i was always super user
[06:27] <ubotu> idlemind: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:27] <bruenig> !sudo | morvok
[06:27] <ubotu> morvok: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:27] <Astrozombie> ....
[06:28] <andoh> 'nvidia kernel module not valid or not a supported nvidia card or you don't have a nvidia card'.
[06:28] <Astrozombie> do you ever have Ubuntu Morvok?
[06:28] <Flannel> Astrozombie: exit out of that.  What are you trying to do?
[06:28] <Astrozombie> Use my Laptop as a wireless router
[06:28] <Hobbsee> thanks nalioth
[06:28] <morvok> AstroZombie: as I agree, sudo is the way to do most things. running su isn't all that bad sometimes.
[06:28] <andoh> Hrm.
[06:28] <andoh> Dangit. Someone help me. :)
[06:29] <morvok> AstroZombie: okay than, sudo iwconfig eth1 essid FART
[06:29] <bruenig> morvok, unless su has been enabled, it can't even be used. It is probably bad policy to suggest that someone use su when the majority of ubuntu users don't even have it enabled
[06:29] <bruenig> just a thought
[06:29] <po0f> andoh: Have you tried installing the beta drivers before?
[06:30] <andoh> po0f: No.
[06:30] <Astrozombie> dones
[06:30] <hhhjr> po0f no such file or directory
[06:30] <po0f> hhhjr: How do you not have an fstab?
[06:30] <andoh> po0f: See, it worked fine until I did something and it went all messed up. And now it doesn't work at all.
[06:30] <po0f> andoh: Do you remember what you did?
[06:30] <aleka> Would it be inappropriate to ask an Opera related question here??
[06:30] <morvok> AstroZombie: how does the xbox look
[06:30] <Astrozombie> MORVOK I DIDNT WORK!
[06:30] <Flannel> aleka: #ubuntu-offtopic might be more appropriate
[06:31] <bruenig> aleka, if it support related
[06:31] <link_36p> no one knows the custum wine display cammands? :(
[06:31] <sam37> HI
[06:31] <bruenig> !hi | sam37
[06:31] <ubotu> sam37: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[06:31] <Astrozombie> IT DOES EVEN SHOW THE ESSID ON MY OTHER LAPTOP!
[06:31] <rob> !caps
[06:31] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[06:31] <hhhjr> po0f after it tries to boot the kernel, then it fails and says dropping into a shell
[06:32] <hhhjr> I have no acess to the hd
[06:32] <sam37> i got a little question about installing ubuntu
[06:32] <Astrozombie> are you Jerking my chain MORVOk.
[06:32] <po0f> hhhjr: After trying to boot with your old kernel?
[06:32] <borat> hey guys, i want to partition my 55gig hd that has an ext3 and swap on it so i can fit another linux that will take up 5 gigs
[06:32] <hhhjr> no I can still boot into the old kernel
[06:32] <bruenig> !ask | sam37
[06:32] <ubotu> sam37: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:32] <borat> how will i partiton it?
[06:32] <morvok> AstroZombie: no..
[06:32] <po0f> hhhjr: I thought that's what you went off to do.
[06:32] <aleka> bruenig: When I click on .mpg files, I get an error<Sorry the program Opera pluginwrapper closed unexpectedly, would you like to report a bug
[06:33] <hhhjr> po0f sorry I will now brb
[06:33] <Astrozombie> well wouldnt i have to bridge my WIfi and ether net first..
[06:33] <bruenig> borat, a swap, and two partitions
[06:33] <bruenig> two root partitions*
[06:33] <aleka> bruenig: where can I post a screen-shot of this to give you a better visual?
[06:33] <bruenig> aleka, yeah, I would have no idea how to do that
[06:33] <sam37> okey I wanted to install ubuntu and wwhen i try to boot from ether livecd or to try install I get a black screen what give?
[06:33] <sam37> s
[06:34] <bruenig> aleka, the pluginwrapper is a binary only thing that comes with opera, hard to troubleshoot that
[06:34] <jeff2> Do the orinoco_cs drivers included in Ubuntu support monitor mode (rfmon) out of the box, or do I need to patch them to enable it?
[06:34] <morvok> AstroZombie: what for?
[06:34] <bruenig> sam37, how far do you get before you get the black screen?
[06:34] <bruenig> sam37, do you get the screen where you select, "start or install ubuntu"
[06:34] <sam37> right when it should go to the desktop
[06:34] <aleka> hmm
[06:35] <Flannel> Astrozombie: this page might be of some assistance: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-10131.html
[06:35] <Astrozombie> can this work with a Nintendo ds.
[06:35] <sam37> yes bruenig
[06:35] <vivicrow> wow, 821 ppl in this channel!!!
[06:35] <Astrozombie> i know Mac's ICS can.
[06:36] <bigfuzzyjesus> sam37, did you verify the iso like md5chksum
[06:36] <casfindad_> join #digikam
[06:36] <bruenig> sam37, well bad burn is probably out of the question then, which is the only avenue I was going to go down. Probably a graphics card issue, but I don't have any clue how to trouble shoot that
[06:36] <sam37> okey
[06:36] <hhhjr> po0f sorry about that it spits out #/dev/sda1
[06:37] <bigfuzzyjesus> sam37, do you have a onboard grafix card?
[06:37] <alexcamilo> got it. changed a line in Xwrapper.config from console to anybody
[06:37] <Flannel> Astrozombie: internet is internet.  so, if your second card is 802.11b, then yeah.
[06:37] <alexcamilo> sorry for the trouble. i'm still a noob
[06:37] <Flannel> Astrozombie: er, networking is networking, I shouldve said.
[06:37] <bigfuzzyjesus> alexcamilo, thats what we are here for :)
[06:37] <alexcamilo> :-)
[06:37] <sam37> im currently run pclinuxos and i have a ati 9200 radeon graphics card
[06:38] <Astrozombie> nope that wont work, it doesnt make a separate ESSID
[06:38] <sam37> i had big problems with geting the graphical part working
[06:38] <andoh> hurm
[06:38] <andoh> i hope this works.
[06:38] <Astrozombie> I guess, ill have to pay 50 bucks for a USB dongle that does the same exact thing.
[06:38] <alexcamilo> is it true that each distro has a different implementation of the startup script system?
[06:38] <alexcamilo> or distro families
[06:39] <Astrozombie> And all it does is take your existing connection and shares it via wifi.
[06:39] <sam37> is ubuntu fast as slackware?
[06:42] <sam37> hey is ubuntu as fast as slackware?
[06:42] <andoh> sam37: yes.
[06:42] <po0f> hhhjr: Is there any special reason you are compiling a newer kernel?
[06:42] <bigfuzzyjesus> sam37, never used slackware, but ubuntu may not be picking up your card
[06:43] <sam37> i love pclinuxos but i wish it was faster
[06:43] <hhhjr> yes I hadproblems with my Nexus DVB card and I was told it was broke in my version of the kernel
[06:43] <juanchito2006> !display
[06:43] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:43] <sam37> thats why im looking at ubuntu
[06:43] <po0f> hhhjr: From what I hear, they're moving a lot of stuff around as far as hard drive stuff goes.
[06:43] <hhhjr> and also to learn
[06:44] <Astrozombie> Argh.
[06:45] <PORDO> anyone using edgy...can you play vorbis audio in rhythmbox?
[06:45] <PORDO> and are you using gstreamer 0.10
[06:45] <hhhjr> po0f I am a noob but when you run the menuconfig for the new kernek am I opening the existing config from the old kernel or is it a generic config file?
[06:45] <nny> why would make-menuconfig in src thrwo such colorful errors as scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/dialog.h:128: error: expected =, ,, ;, asm or __attribute__ before use_colors
[06:46] <ernz> Morning all.
[06:46] <nny> may not have source... lemme check that
[06:46] <ernz> Can someone please assure me that there are actually some tools that exist on the Gnome version of Ubuntu that actually allow bluetooth functionality?
[06:46] <^Gecko^> hello
[06:47] <^Gecko^> omg there's a lot of users in here
[06:47] <PORDO> how can i get rid of KDE and still have the Qt libs to run KDE apps?
[06:47] <ernz> lol
[06:47] <bruenig> !info bluetooth
[06:47] <ubotu> bluetooth: Bluetooth stack utilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.7-1ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 18 kB, installed size 60 kB
[06:47] <bruenig> !bluetooth
[06:47] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[06:47] <bruenig> !info bluez-utils
[06:47] <ubotu> bluez-utils: Bluetooth tools and daemons. In component main, is optional. Version 3.7-1ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 788 kB
[06:47] <hhhjr> erns I lost many hours trying to get blletooth dial up and did not succeed
[06:47] <bruenig> ernz, so that is a yes
[06:47] <Asc> Is it possible to set GNOME to use alt-[right mouse button]  to resize a window?
[06:48] <pucko-> pordo, kde apps depend on more than just qt. but you can probably get away with just keeping a few of the essential kde-packages.
[06:48] <Astrozombie> thanks for try Morvok
[06:48] <po0f> hhhjr: It's a generic config.  To get most of the options set up, do `sudo cp /boot/config-version-that-works /path/to/new/kernel/source && cd /path/to/new/kernel/source && make oldconfig`.
[06:48] <^Gecko^> simple question with a hopefully simple solution;  how do I increase my resolution from 1024x768 to 1280x1024.  the resolution is not shown in 'system > preferences > screen resolution', but it is the native resolution of my lcd, a Viewsonic cp171b, with an nvidia 6800 video card?
[06:49] <^Gecko^> wtf
[06:49] <^Gecko^> nm the wtf
[06:49] <bruenig> !fixres | ^Gecko^
[06:49] <ubotu> ^Gecko^: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:49] <hhhjr> po0f ok I will research it some more gotta get some sleep but thanks for the help
[06:49] <godtvisken> what command shows which drives are mounted?
[06:49] <ernz> breunig: Thanks. hhhjr: I have been using Kubuntu for the last month just to see what it's like. Some things are far superior to Ubuntu, like the hardware com. utilities (Especially Bluetooth!) and there is useful stull like automounting and the likes
[06:49] <^Gecko^> *click*
[06:49] <ernz> But there are some major annoyances too, so I think I am going back to Ubuntu
[06:49] <timfrost> godtvisken: df
[06:49] <link_36p> Anyone know how to specify a custom screen resolution/
[06:50] <godtvisken> :o I have no swap space mounted
[06:50] <bruenig> swapon
[06:50] <godtvisken> bruenig: but it was an error on bootup i believe
[06:51] <godtvisken> something like.. trying to mount swap, failed
[06:51] <Astrozombie> any one use wifi radar?
[06:51] <morvok> AstroZombie: sudo iwconfig eth1 mode Master essid Fart channel 11 key aabbccdd.  adjust the xbox in the advanced settings accordingly.
[06:52] <ShoeUnited-AFK> :/
[06:52] <pucko-> godtvisken, you have to give us more than that
[06:52] <ShoeUnited-AFK> nothing helpful in man apt-get
[06:52] <po0f> godtvisken: It will not show your swap partition as "mounted".
[06:52] <morvok> time for bed
[06:52] <timfrost> godtvisken: swap is NOT shown by df.  top will show swap usage, if you have a swap partition.  Can you pastebin /etc/fstab and output from 'sudo fdisk -l'
[06:52] <Astrozombie> Yeah, it wont do master :(
[06:52] <ernz> bruenig: That bluetooth guide doesn't really have great functionality, is there a way I can get KDE software running properly on Ubuntu? I know it should work because it's a similar underlying architecture, but, for some reason stuff like KBluetoothD and it's associated apps all lag and hang whenever I try and run them.
[06:52] <ShoeUnited-AFK> !source
[06:52] <ubotu> You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[06:52] <Astrozombie> where can i find a list that can?
[06:53] <po0f> godtvisken: What does `cat /proc/swaps` say?
[06:53] <link_36p> Does anyone know how to reset WINE when the resoluition paramiters are bvad?!
[06:53] <ernz> hhhjr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothDialup << ?
[06:53] <zak_> after hibernating, audio doesn't seem to work [apps like rhythmbox just don't play, or freeze] ... what's going on here?
[06:53] <godtvisken> po0f: nothing
[06:54] <godtvisken> timfrost: http://pastebin.com/845007
[06:54] <Astrozombie> What wifi cards support MAster?
[06:54] <ernz> link_36p : As with many things in Ubuntu I am guessing that deleting the ~/.wine dir should work.
[06:54] <po0f> godtvisken: And what does the /etc/fstab entry look like for your swap partition, and what does fdisk say about that partition?
[06:54] <godtvisken> Flannel: http://pastebin.com/845008
[06:54] <godtvisken> sorry
[06:55] <ShoeUnited-AFK> !dpkg
[06:55] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[06:55] <godtvisken> timfrost: http://pastebin.com/845008
[06:55] <Astrozombie> IS there a master list some where.
[06:55] <godtvisken> po0f: see the two links i have pasted to timfrost
[06:55] <kmu> I am trying to install dhcp3-server, but I am getting: The following packages have unmet dependencies. dhcp3-server: Depends: dhcp3-common (= 3.0.1-2) but 3.0.3-6ubuntu7 is to be installed. E: Broken packages. I thought about reinstalling dhcp3-common, but that would uninstall ubuntu-base -- not something that sounds good. How do I install dhcp3-server.
[06:56] <ernz> link_36p : How did that work?
[06:57] <QwertyM> I need a better version of gaim than beta3, available on repos ?
[06:57] <zak_> anyone know how to resolve problems with audio after hibernating?
[06:57] <po0f> godtvisken: Have you tried reformatting the partition and trying to turn it on again? `mkswap /dev/hdb5 && swapon /dev/hdb5`.
[06:58] <godtvisken> po0f: no, i haven't. is that safe?
[06:59] <^Gecko^> yay, thanks. that worked
[06:59] <po0f> godtvisken: It just formats the partition as swap.
[06:59] <pianoboy3333> how do I mount a folder as a dvd?
[06:59] <^Gecko^> now to figure out how to use wine, and to use wine to load mirc and steam
[07:00] <po0f> godtvisken: Make sure you format the right partitions.  I don't think I have to tell you what happens if you get it wrong the first time.  ;)
[07:00] <ShagSpeed> Anyone had any luck with XGL with ATI in 6.10 ?????
[07:00] <^Gecko^> ....and xgl
[07:00] <^Gecko^> !xgl
[07:00] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:01] <godtvisken> po0f: yeah, heh. well, i just did what you said. it appears to have worked. uhm, what now?
[07:01] <^Gecko^> !wine
[07:01] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:01] <ShagSpeed> !ubuntu
[07:01] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[07:01] <jejh> would a 120gb work on an old compaq p2 ? thinking bout the ide controller..
[07:01] <ShagSpeed> !crack
[07:01] <ubotu> crack: Password guessing program. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.0a-9 (edgy), package size 26 kB, installed size 172 kB
[07:02] <pucko-> godtvisken, you should probably check to see if the partitions still have the correct uuid (otherwise it wont mount next time you reboot anyway)
[07:02] <mechtn> hey, does anyone mind looking at animal shelter manager on sourceforge and recommending which install of it i should download for ubuntu
[07:02] <Chris-Waterguy> hi all - where can I find info on using Ubuntu/Gnome with keyboard rather than mouse?
[07:02] <^Gecko^> jejh, it will work, but it probably wont be able to use more than 137 gigs of that drive
[07:02] <pucko-> or perhaps that's handled automatically
[07:02] <^Gecko^> due to bios limitation
[07:02] <godtvisken> pucko-: how do i check?
[07:02] <po0f> godtvisken: You should be fine now.  The fstab entry for the swap partition looks ok.  Check to make sure it worked with `cat /proc/swaps`.
[07:02] <foglight> mechtn: what is the link?
[07:03] <^Gecko^> jejh,  with a newer ide controller card you might have luck
[07:03] <jejh> but its a 120gb and u said it was a 137gb limit? :p
[07:03] <pucko-> godtvisken, sudo vol_id -u /dev/<your swap partition>  and then compare it with the entry in /etc/fstab
[07:03] <^Gecko^> jejh,  i am a fool!
[07:03] <jejh> hehe :p
[07:04] <^Gecko^> lol i am also drunk, and mistook 120gig to mean 200 gig
[07:04] <jejh> :D
[07:04] <jejh> hehe
[07:04] <jejh> how much ram does a server install of ubuntu take anyway? without any extra added
[07:04] <^Gecko^> (lol! drunk, and installing ubuntu)
[07:04] <tonyyarusso> jejh: Minimum 64 MB
[07:04] <old-monk> jejh all depends on your ide controller, get one of those "ide raid" controlers with boot chip and it will work
[07:04] <jejh> oki
[07:04] <^Gecko^> jejh,  dunno, the more the merrier
[07:05] <godtvisken> pucko-: so what do i do if they are different? change it?
[07:05] <^Gecko^> and merry xmas day, btw
[07:05] <godtvisken> pucko-: in fstab, i mean
[07:05] <mechtn> foglight: http://sheltermanager.sourceforge.net/download.php
[07:05] <Astrozombie> Hello mates
[07:05] <^Gecko^> hi Astrozombie
[07:05] <Astrozombie> I am having trouble with my Wifi card, it works but i can change mode to MASTER
[07:05] <Astrozombie> *cantT
[07:06] <_james> i need help.. how to enable OHCI usb controller?
[07:06] <pucko-> godtvisken, yes, that should do it. were they the same?
[07:06] <^Gecko^> speaking of wifi.....Sony Vaio + Ubuntu 6.10 = :(
[07:07] <lars__> hiya all.
[07:07] <^Gecko^> I have to go see a man about a horse
[07:07] <^Gecko^> ttyl
[07:08] <ShoeUnited-AFK> ... if it weren't for my horse....
[07:08] <Astrozombie> DOES anyone know how to use a Mac?
[07:09] <_james> help anyone
[07:09] <_james> i need help.. how to enable OHCI usb controller?
[07:09] <Astrozombie> any mac users?
[07:09] <ShoeUnited-AFK> Depends on what you want to do with a mac.
[07:09] <idlemind> no they are "to easy"
[07:09] <ShoeUnited-AFK> I know HOW to use a mac kinda, but I'm not great with a mac.
[07:09] <Astrozombie> i wanna know if this works on linux http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20051119155606277
[07:10] <Astrozombie> thats what ive been trying to figure out for weeks
[07:10] <ShoeUnited-AFK> gimmie a couple to read it, I'm choking my pipe atm.
[07:11] <ShoeUnited-AFK> !!
[07:11] <ShoeUnited-AFK> NOt a euphamism
[07:11] <godtvisken> pucko-: no, they were different
[07:11] <Astrozombie> ??
[07:11] <juanchito2006> !generic
[07:11] <ubotu> Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[07:11] <ShoeUnited-AFK> I mean, I'm tied up my bandwith.
[07:11] <emun> hi, how do i get bittorent to run on ubuntu
[07:11] <juanchito2006> !generic monitor
[07:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about generic monitor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:12] <juanchito2006> !disply
[07:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about disply - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:12] <monoxide> emum: what client are you using
[07:12] <foglight> mechtn: http://superb-west.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/sheltermanager/sheltermanager_2.0.16_i386.deb
[07:12] <pianoboy3333> Can I have some help with mplayer? It seems the members of #mplayer are idlers. I need to combine 4 VOB files, then transcode them to avi's, and start at 2 min into the first avi, and end 6 min in the fourth avi
[07:12] <juanchito2006> !display
[07:12] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:12] <foglight> mechtn: download that and use 'dpkg -i file.deb'
[07:12] <juanchito2006> !bittorrent
[07:12] <ubotu> bittorrent: Scatter-gather network file transfer. In component main, is optional. Version 3.4.2-6ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 90 kB, installed size 556 kB
[07:12] <monoxide> !fluxbox
[07:12] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[07:12] <mechtn> foglight: ok.. thanks.. where did that come from?  do i need to worry about installing java like it says before hand or is that included in that package?
[07:13] <_james> where can i find my kernel source? i want to edit it and enable my OHCI controller.. anyon?
[07:13] <lars__> I have two SATA drive for storage and I cant for the life of me copy the 6000 mp3's on one to the other. no matter what I do the transfer stalls after about 6-700mbs each time and leaves my puter in a state where it freezes every ten secs or so. i thought it might be konqueror but i tried a verbose cp and same thing again. anyone got a clue about this?
[07:13] <emun> I do not have a clue how to set it , I do not know what client
[07:14] <foglight> mechtn: thats from the Debian section
[07:14] <lars__> im a noob too btw in case you didnt notice alredy....and ive searched on gg too
[07:14] <foglight> mechtn: java is probably installed, see if there is a /usr/bin/java
[07:14] <Astrozombie> Shoe you done reading it?
[07:15] <ShoeUnited-AFK> Yeah.
[07:15] <ShoeUnited-AFK> I'm looking for a related article
[07:15] <ShoeUnited-AFK> You want to share the connection of an NDS and a Linux box yes?
[07:16] <ShoeUnited-AFK> Without having to connect the NDS with a usb.
[07:16] <Astrozombie> yes
[07:16] <ShoeUnited-AFK> Which it the tricky part.
[07:16] <emun> I remember using bittorrent in windows but can not figure out what to do in ubuntu
[07:16] <Astrozombie> i dunno how to do that in linux
[07:16] <Astrozombie> linux doesnt have ICS.
[07:17] <ShoeUnited-AFK> hrmmm
[07:17] <old-monk> Astrozombie it has, its called iptables :(
[07:17] <ShoeUnited-AFK> emun: sudo apt-get install azereus*
[07:18] <old-monk> emun ktorrent
[07:18] <ShoeUnited-AFK> hehe ^_^
[07:18] <rafael> emun: gnome-btdownload
[07:19] <juanchito2006> Download it from www.bittorrent.com
[07:19] <Astrozombie> Shoe you still there?
[07:19] <hheee> wtf after the grub screen i get /bin/sh cant access tty: job control turned off (initramfs) omg the world is ending
[07:19] <ShoeUnited-AFK> Yup.
[07:19] <emun> is azareus like the gui
[07:19] <ShoeUnited-AFK> I'm not sure how you'd go about it.
[07:19] <Astrozombie> sorry, i got disconnected
[07:19] <ShoeUnited-AFK> Yeah I saw the netsplit.
[07:19] <Astrozombie> Do you know, any one who might?
[07:19] <hheee> wtf after the grub screen i get /bin/sh cant access tty: job control turned off (initramfs) omg the world is ending
[07:20] <juanchito2006> I'm having a problem with my monitor
[07:20] <Astrozombie> maybe if i put mac osx on my laptop...
[07:20] <juanchito2006> !monitor
[07:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about monitor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:20] <wastrel> hello
[07:20] <hheee> !/bin/sh
[07:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin/sh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:20] <hheee> wtf after the grub screen i get /bin/sh cant access tty: job control turned off (initramfs) omg the world is ending!!
[07:22] <mechtn> where in ubuntu is the shelll
[07:22] <Astrozombie> :(
[07:22] <juanchito2006> !tty
[07:22] <ubotu> To get to the tty terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).
[07:22] <ShoeUnited-AFK> Astrozombie: I don't see why your NDS wouldn't happily leapfrog onto the linux wireless if you have it open and set up for ics
[07:22] <hheee> wtf after the grub screen i get /bin/sh cant access tty: job control turned off (initramfs) omg the world is ending!!
[07:22] <juanchito2006> !initramfs
[07:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about initramfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:23] <ShoeUnited-AFK> initramfs = initialized ram file system
[07:23] <ChevronX> Is there a PS2 emulator in apt-get repositories? If not where can I get one from
[07:24] <hheee> omg ubuntu byebye back to billgatews
[07:24] <emun> got message authentication failed when i used gnom-btdownload
[07:25] <ShoeUnited-AFK> *gnome-btdownload
[07:26] <afungu25> hello
[07:26] <Deep__> hi AFigueiredo
[07:26] <Deep__> oops
[07:26] <Deep__> afungu25 :D
[07:26] <afungu25> hehe
[07:26] <ChevronX> Is there a PS2 emulator in apt-get repositories? If not where can I get one from
[07:26] <ShoeUnited-AFK> LameBMX:  I think I found it but it wasn't in man  it was here:  http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-basico.en.html
[07:27] <mechtn> foglight: it errored out saying dependancies were not installed
[07:27] <mechtn> is there anyway like gentoo to make it download and install those before hand?
[07:28] <mns> any good tutorials on the make utility
[07:28] <ShoeUnited-AFK> mechtn:  Synaptic Package manager should download the necessities first.
[07:28] <mechtn> shoe, its a package called sheltermanager i downloaded from the sheltermanager sourceforge webpage
[07:29] <mechtn> used dpkg -i to install it
[07:29] <bulmer> mns hang on..i have a link to autoconf book
[07:29] <mns> bulmer: thx
[07:30] <bulmer> http://sourceware.org/autobook/download.html
[07:30] <mns> thx a lot man
[07:30] <mns> or woman
[07:30] <mns> ...
[07:30] <mns> thx a lot* :D
[07:30] <bulmer> :)
[07:30] <bulmer> you're welcome
[07:30] <Jimerson> I'm still having problems getting my airport extreme card working in my imac G5 using 6.10, so I tried plugging the ethernet in directly. It seems to be active but nothing (firefox, gaim) works. Anyone familiar with this problem?
[07:31] <james_brown> Jimerson: make sure the dns servers are properly set in /etc/resolv.conf
[07:31] <Jimerson> james_brown: How do I go about doing that?
[07:32] <james_brown> Jimerson: do you know your dns servers' ip addys?
[07:32] <Jimerson> james_brown: no
[07:32] <bulmer> Jimerson: i would even go as far back as checking if you can ping any other ip address
[07:32] <james_brown> mmmm...that's not good
[07:33] <hheee> how do i rebuild my mbr?
[07:33] <hheee> =(
[07:34] <totall_6_7> !mbr
[07:34] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:34] <hheee> how do i reinstall ubuntu but keep my /home intact
[07:34] <james_brown> hheee: make a backup :)
 Back it up.
[07:34] <Jimerson> bulmer: I'll try ping..
[07:35] <kc> is /home on a separate partition?
[07:35] <james_brown> it depends
[07:35] <james_brown> usually not
[07:35] <hheee> omg i cant get into bash to backup
[07:35] <sakura> Tried a livecd?
[07:35] <hheee> ooo nice idea theheh thnx
[07:35] <sakura> :D
[07:35] <james_brown> hheee: try the gui
[07:35] <PORDO> can anyone here using edgy play vorbis audio in rhythmbox (or other gstreamer apps like totem) ????
[07:35] <PORDO> i cannot.
[07:36] <LameBMX> ShoeUnited-AFK, i found this in my stuff for fake raid im about to do ...
[07:36] <nny> can anyone tell me why make menuconfig returns errors
[07:36] <wastrel> hi
[07:36] <LameBMX> ShoeUnited-AFK, udpkg -i /locl/path/to/package.deb
[07:36] <kc> nny, what errors are you getting
[07:36] <james_brown> PORDO: ogg vorbis is supported out of the box i guess
[07:37] <nny> kc g/lxdialog/checklist.o]  Error 1
[07:37] <nny> scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c:288: error: KEY_RIGHT undeclared (first use in this function)
[07:38] <sakura> Oh yeah. I changed video cards from Nvidia to ATI, but I have the proprietary Nvidia drivers installed. Should I try starting from recovery mode and removing the drivers before starting X?
[07:38] <kc> have you got the ncurses libs?
[07:38] <idlemind> sakura: yes that'd be a good idea
[07:38] <PORDO> james_brown not for me it isn't!
[07:39] <sakura> Okay, thanks!
[07:39] <nny> kc.. ahh, maybe not, let me check
[07:39] <sushi_> Hey what's a good video card?  Like one that has good overall support?  Is it the nVidia geforce series?
[07:39] <LameBMX> hey .. is there a way to just fix grub on the MBR .... also does the MBR portion of grub contain any settings whatsoever? im about to attempt a fakeraid install and dont feel like dealing with windows loading so i figured i would just leave windows a nice partition at the beginning of the array
[07:39] <nny> kc what package is that a part of?
[07:39] <james_brown> PORDO: if you live outside the usa try this: sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[07:39] <LameBMX> if grub on MBR holds any data .. then a simple fix wont help
[07:40] <LameBMX> unless i back up that section to a thumb drive
[07:40] <kc> should be something like libncurses-dev
[07:40] <LameBMX> :/
[07:40] <nny> k got it thanks
[07:40] <PORDO> i live in the usa.
[07:41] <PORDO> seattle.
[07:41] <james_brown> i'm clueless then
[07:41] <PORDO> jesus.
[07:41] <nny> kc thanks that was it, nice
[07:41] <kc> nny: no probs :)
[07:41] <interfear> Ubuntu 6.10 locks up when trying to enter either safe graphics install, or normal.  In 6.06 I was at least able to get the X server to run at 1024 in safe graphics mode so I coudl install, now I cant enter either, I know I can fix the xconfig once installed, is there a way to do a text based ubuntu install?
[07:42] <james_brown> interfear: with the alternate install cd
[07:42] <james_brown> interfear: it's really good
[07:42] <interfear> ok
[07:43] <interfear> sweet
[07:43] <interfear> so james brown is dead eh?
[07:43] <james_brown> yeah
[07:43] <interfear> on christmas day or today?
[07:43] <james_brown> get upa!!
[07:43] <james_brown> Dec 25th
[07:43] <interfear> wow
[07:43] <interfear> like a sex machine
[07:43] <james_brown> lol
[07:43] <james_brown> now he's feelin' good
[07:43] <james_brown> indeed
[07:44] <interfear> hes hangin with the greats
[07:44] <mns> $(MAKE) -C src/
[07:44] <mns> $(MAKE) -C plugins/
[07:44] <mns> $(MAKE) -C pixmaps/
[07:44] <james_brown> elvis and jimmy
[07:44] <PORDO> ah, i think i know what it is.  i did a local compile of something.
[07:44] <mns> sorry for posting code, but i found that in a book i'm reading. I was wondering if it compiles all the .c files in those directories
[07:45] <james_brown> PORDO: are you willing to break your country's law? u may apt-get gstreamer's extra plugins
[07:46] <james_brown> PORDO: have you removed packages from the default install?
[07:46] <nny> kc so say i am helping a ubuntu user here and he has a sound card edgy doesn't load the modules for.. it appears to be a sigmatel, it looks like the vendor has drivers, but unable to pin down the hardware info.. it's sigmatel on an ati MB.. laptop.. anythoughts
[07:47] <nny> best i got was the inf file from the manufacturer's site
[07:47] <PORDO> i do not recognize government.
[07:47] <PORDO> i'm a libertarian.
[07:47] <kc> try do a lspci to see what the sound controller is, then find a module for it
[07:47] <interfear> Anyone here use a Palm device in ubuntu?
[07:47] <PORDO> where are these extra plugins?
[07:47] <james_brown> PORDO: oh man then go to www.getautomatix.com
[07:47] <james_brown> lol
[07:47] <james_brown> i like your attitude boy!
[07:47] <PORDO> none of that should be required for vorbis.
[07:47] <PORDO> it's non proprietary.
[07:48] <PORDO> what does automatix do that apt-get doesn't?
[07:48] <PORDO> what's the point?
[07:48] <james_brown> PORDO: have you removed packages from the default install?
[07:48] <PORDO> james_brown not to my knowledge.
[07:48] <james_brown> PORDO: automatix does the job automatically.. it's a script
[07:48] <PORDO> james_brown i've installed everything i can think of for gstreamer0.10
[07:48] <PORDO> does what job?
[07:48] <PORDO> apt-get update && apt-get upgrade ?
[07:48] <PORDO> wtf. how is that hard?
[07:48] <james_brown> downloading the stuff you select from the list
[07:48] <PORDO> so does apt-get.
[07:48] <james_brown> yes
[07:48] <PORDO> it just downloads it and installs it.
[07:48] <james_brown> indeed
[07:49] <patbam> hi, can i install a .deb with synaptic?
[07:49] <LameBMX> okay how will i deal with a cyclic dependency .. where A depends on B which depends on C which depends on A
[07:49] <james_brown> patbam: dpkg -i package.deb
[07:49] <LameBMX> ?
[07:49] <PORDO> ** Message: don't know how to handle application/x-id3
[07:49] <PORDO> ** Message: don't know how to handle audio/x-vorbis
[07:49] <nny> kc nope lspci shows unknowns
[07:49] <nny> can ndiswrapper do any win driver?
[07:50] <james_brown> LameBMX: that's why aptitude and apt-get are made for
[07:50] <nny> meh nm network card only
[07:50] <james_brown> what*
[07:50] <PORDO> (rhythmbox:7407): Rhythmbox-WARNING **: Unable to start mDNS browsing: MDNS service is not running
[07:51] <james_brown> PORDO: try this: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[07:51] <mechtn> ok i got animal shelter manager installed from synaptics
[07:51] <mechtn> but get a exceptiuon in thread "main" aborted (core dumped) error message
[07:52] <mechtn> anyone seen this before
[07:53] <Indref> Yo, happy Yule all..
[07:53] <james_brown> aloha
[07:53] <Indref> Anyone providing support right now, or are you all high on eggnog?
[07:54] <kc> nny, do you know the which sigmatel chip it uses?
[07:54] <Indref> james_brown, Win.
[07:54] <Indref> Just wondering, small complaint/idea/question
[07:54] <kc> nny also, try the i810 and ac97_codec
[07:54] <Indref> How can I call up the thumbnail view when in the File Selection Dialogue.
[07:55] <Indref> That is, when using Firefox.
[07:55] <james_brown> good question.. as far as i know it ain't possible
[07:55] <Indref> Yay.
[07:55] <carlfk_lap> where can I put commands to be run each time a user logs into X?  (I want to run xhost +)
[07:55] <Indref> When I use the dialogue to open something in GIMP, I get a lovely thumbnail to the side, I want that in Firefox..
[07:55] <LameBMX> james_brown, im not necessarily going to have those at my disposal ... im about to attempt a fakeraid install
[07:56] <alexcamilo> is there any way to stop the screen from going black when i don't touch the mouse fora prolonged amount of time. i tried to disable dmps in the xfree86 config file but the screen still goes black. it even goes black when i'm not running X. i tried reading up on apple power management stuff but have had verry little success.
[07:56] <james_brown> LameBMX: good luck bro :D
[07:56] <LameBMX> ty
[07:56] <Indref> alexcamilo, I get that problem too.
[07:56] <james_brown> Indref: try searching the firefox's extension pages
[07:56] <alexcamilo> any luck?
[07:57] <LameBMX> im tryin to snag everything i can cuz chances are either apt or my thumbdrive will be accessible .. odds are not both will function in the install enviroment
[07:57] <Indref> james_brown, Cool, doing that now.. is there a linux area I should look for?
[07:57] <mechtn> when trying to run a program i installed, shelter manager, i get an exceptiuon in thread "main" aborted (core dumped) error message... any suggestions please?
[07:57] <james_brown> alexcamilo: have you checked the screensaver properties?
[07:57] <interfear> How is ubuntu's Palm Pilot support?
[07:57] <james_brown> Indref: no idea
[07:57] <james_brown> sorry
[07:57] <alexcamilo> where can i go to check that? somewhere in etc
[07:57] <alexcamilo> ?
[07:58] <Indref> alexcamilo, None.
[07:58] <carlfk_lap> interfear: jpilot will sync phone/memo/calandar
[07:58] <james_brown> ubuntu supports pilots i guess
[07:58] <alexcamilo> oh whell
[07:59] <james_brown> alexcamilo: nope
[07:59] <james_brown> alexcamilo: syste, / preferences
[07:59] <LameBMX> alexcamilo, and Indref i have the same thing ..
[07:59] <alexcamilo> oops... this is the ubuntu channel
[08:00] <LameBMX> and screensaver off ... and power management set to never turn screen off
[08:00] <LameBMX> ive had the same issue in ubuntu gentoo and vector
[08:00] <alexcamilo> someone sent me this link in another channel. http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-disable-screen-blanking-screen-going-blank.html
[08:01] <ZlIggY> alexcamilo: ok?
[08:01] <nny> kc no.. seems the manufactuer site is slim on details.. right now it has 3 devices on lspci not loaded
[08:02] <nny> kc may be more than just sound, may be south bridge or something, although it appears sound is the only issue right now
[08:02] <nny> kc you can join #nny if you wanna help
[08:03] <Rob-West> gnome rocks
[08:03] <mechtn> ok this is going to drive me nuts
[08:03] <mechtn> i try to migrate these pcs from windows
[08:03] <mechtn> and then cant get the software to work in linux
[08:03] <jbinder> hi
[08:04] <jbinder> i just plugged in a USB External HardDrive
[08:04] <jbinder> does anyone know where its mountpoint is?
[08:04] <jbinder> /dev/...
[08:04] <idlemind> jbinder: /media/
[08:04] <jbinder> it's in there
[08:04] <jbinder> there is just cdrom and cdrom0 in there
[08:05] <jbinder> it's not in there*
[08:05] <idlemind> jbinder: in the output of 'mount' at cli what does it give you?
[08:05] <porl> if it hasn't mounted properly i think it is just /dev/sd0-9 isn't it?
[08:06] <jbinder> i don't see anything in mount
[08:07] <hagebake> can apt-get search for packages, or do i have to use aptitude?
[08:07] <jbinder> i think the HD is broken
[08:07] <jbinder> because windows can't find it either
[08:07] <jbinder> hagebake: apt-cache search <package>
[08:07] <hagebake> oh
[08:07] <hagebake> wish i knew earlier :p
[08:07] <porl> or aptitude search
[08:07] <jbinder> lol
[08:07] <idlemind> jbinder: very well could be; what kind of usb-mass-storage device is it? a flash drive or a usb hdd?
[08:07] <porl> works as a cmdline prog too
[08:07] <jbinder> usb hdd
[08:07] <jbinder> maxtor
[08:08] <jbinder>  brand new
[08:08] <jbinder> lol
[08:08] <timfrost> jbinder: does 'sudo lsusb' detect it when it is plugged in?
[08:09] <interfear> i am all out of cd-r's, can i burn a normal wow iso to a dvd rom and use that to install?
[08:09] <jbinder> timfrost: it sees it
[08:09] <interfear> err
[08:09] <interfear> wow iso
[08:09] <interfear> lol
[08:09] <interfear> i meawnt ubuntu iso
[08:09] <idlemind> jbinder: you could try to take it out of the case and plug the hdd into your machine but if that voids your warranty then don't just exchange it
[08:09] <Jimerson> So, I figured out what my DNS servers are, but could not find a resolv.conf file in /etc
[08:09] <hagebake> i like apt-cache's search better; at least i can search for 'whole phrase' just by quoting it
[08:09] <NixNewb> howdy, I'm trying to install java according to http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/java.html, I type the command "fakeroot" and console says the command does not exist
[08:10] <Jimerson> I made one myself and pasted my DNS servers, and after a reboot nothing changed.
[08:10] <Rob-West> use sudo
[08:10] <jbinder> sudo?
[08:10] <jbinder> yeah
[08:10] <jbinder> timfrost: Bus 004 Device 006: ID 0d49:3210 Maxtor
[08:10] <ESPOiG> what command unmounts everything and what mounts everything back up using fstab
[08:10] <LameBMX> ummm mount -a i believe
[08:10] <hagebake> man mount
[08:12] <Jimerson> What should I do if /etc has no resolv.conf file?
[08:12] <NixNewb> howdy, I'm trying to install java according to http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/java.html, I type the command "fakeroot" and console says the command does not exist
[08:12] <NixNewb> what should I do?
[08:13] <Rob-West> try using sudo -s
[08:14] <comradevik> how can i connect to another computer throuch ssh if they are on the same network
[08:14] <comradevik> and they seem to share the same external ip
[08:14] <NixNewb> sudo -s does not work
[08:14] <nny> kc, if your hear, it's a sigmatel 9200, and says intel HD driver should work (via google queries, etc)
[08:14] <nny> here*
[08:15] <NixNewb>  /bin/bash: fakeroot: No such file or directory
[08:15] <nny> you're*
[08:15] <timfrost> NixNewb: install the fakeroot package with 'sudo apt-get install fakeroot'
[08:15] <kc> nny yeah try the intel driver with the ac97_codec
[08:16] <jw_606> Hello everyone
[08:16] <Jimerson> Hello
[08:16] <nny> kc any chance you could pop into #nny and help me tell this guy how to do that?
[08:16] <cmweb> What do i hace to install (specific mod) in order to encode and decode mp3?
[08:17] <timfrost> NixNewb: what java are you trying to install?
[08:18] <NixNewb> thanks tim, that got me fakeroot
[08:18] <NixNewb> 1.5.1.10-amd64
[08:18] <NixNewb> *1.5.0.10
[08:19] <cmweb> no one knows?
[08:19] <cmweb> come on
[08:19] <cmweb> i got to do something for my mp3 player
[08:19] <Jimerson> Anyone know why my /etc folder has no resolv.comf file? (I can't gain network access and I think this might be why..)
[08:19] <cafuego_> !restrictedformats > cmweb
[08:19] <cmweb> it wont play ogg only mp3, and wav
[08:19] <NixNewb> Now I get user@monica:~/Desktop$ fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_10-linux-amd64.bin
[08:19] <NixNewb> /usr/bin/fakeroot: 152: make-jpkg: not found
[08:19] <chab> hello\
[08:19] <chab> and Merry Christmas
[08:19] <cafuego_> cmweb: yes, so read the wiki
[08:20] <NixNewb> Merry Chirstmas chab
[08:20] <cafuego_> NixNewb: install java-package
[08:20] <chab> anyone can tell which ftp-server i should use for my box
[08:20] <nny> kc, if You could pop into #nny channel and help i am getting tired and could use a brief pice of help with this guy
[08:20] <Schalken> I have an AVI video, how can I burn it to a DVD video?
[08:20] <cmweb> wait, if they are restricted formats then why is it possible?
[08:21] <LameBMX> NixNewb, my buddy is down there in houston for the holidays
[08:21] <cafuego_> cmweb: free as in beer
[08:21] <jw_606> I've searched for a good C++ tutorial that I can follow along, but I need one thats going to tell me how to compile the code, not just give me demonstrations and say "Compile this! Goodjob!" Can someone point me in the direction of a good C++ newbie guide please?
[08:21] <chab> Schalken avi and dvd are 2 different video formats
[08:21] <cmweb>  beer is not free so how much is this
[08:21] <Schalken> chab: yes, some sort of converstion will need to take place...i want to burn it to dvd.
[08:22] <x-r00t-x> hi . how do i use link this "svn checkout http://bunchafunk.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/bashpromptutil/ bashpromptutil"
[08:22] <NixNewb> that didn't work cafuego_
[08:22] <NixNewb> i'm sorry y'all
[08:22] <ESPOiG> whats it mean when i try to run umount -a in root and it says cannot create link /etc/mtab~ perhaps there is a stale lock?
[08:22] <Deep__> too*
[08:22] <NixNewb> Lame, what part?
[08:22] <llama32> jw_606: #c++ i believe
[08:22] <LameBMX> x-r00t-x, apt-get install svn
[08:22] <LameBMX> then run that command
[08:22] <LameBMX> i dont know
[08:22] <nalpha> guys... can ubuntu use active direccotry what software should i use?
[08:22] <NixNewb> small world
[08:22] <chab> Schalken u can burn it on a dvd but it will have the same .avi extension
[08:23] <LameBMX> i just know he down there visiting family for the holidays
[08:23] <chab> just burn it as usual
[08:23] <x-r00t-x> LameBMX, E: Couldn't find package svn
[08:23] <chab> drag
[08:23] <Schalken> chab: not a data dvd, a video dvd, you know, to play in my dvd player.
[08:23] <LameBMX> the search synaptic for it x-r00t-x
[08:23] <cafuego_> NixNewb: How is "that didn't work" supposed to help us help you?
[08:24] <chab> Schalken , does your dvd players support .avi .divx etc format ?
[08:24] <Schalken> chab: that makes a data dvd
[08:24] <LameBMX> x-r00t-x, i remember you being here earlier and a fair warning .. you may not want to play with svn stuff .. its bleeding edge and a lot is unstable ...
[08:24] <llama32> jw_606: it's just a matter of "gcc filename.c++" though
[08:24] <chab> Schalken , it is data dvd
[08:24] <x-r00t-x> :-S
[08:24] <NixNewb> sorry, apt-get java-pakcage didn't work
[08:24] <Deep__> package*
[08:24] <Deep__> =)
[08:24] <LameBMX> x-r00t-x, i would highly advise staying away unless you have some sort of programming experince
[08:24] <NixNewb> and the instructions from the doc.ubuntu I am having trouble with
[08:24] <cafuego_> didn't work HOW
[08:24] <x-r00t-x> NixNewb, apt-get install java
[08:25] <chab> NixNewb
[08:25] <x-r00t-x> LameBMX,  yeah i do . :)
[08:25] <Schalken> chab: its not for me, its for a friend, all I know is the player plays normal DVD videos...like...from the store.
[08:25] <NixNewb> E: Couldn't find package java-package
[08:25] <chab> for java sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin
[08:25] <NixNewb> E: Couldn't find package java
[08:25] <LameBMX> x-r00t-x, cool cool ... ive had a couple svn items where i had to fix a few lines of code
[08:25] <Slart> How can I make nautilus update the list of drives in the sidepane? (I've repartitioned a drive or two and now they're gone)
[08:25] <chab> then sudo update-alternatives --config java
[08:25] <chab> and choose the java option
[08:25] <cafuego_> Okay. You need to enable the repository that carries it.
[08:25] <cafuego_> !info java-package
[08:25] <ubotu> java-package: utility for building Java(TM) 2 related Debian packages. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.27 (edgy), package size 22 kB, installed size 336 kB
[08:25] <cafuego_> ie: multiverse.
[08:26] <chab> Schalken , some DVD players are supporting .avi .divx format
[08:26] <chab> u need to know if this one does
[08:26] <x-r00t-x> LameBMX, oh
[08:26] <NixNewb> Package sun-java5-jre is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:26] <NixNewb> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:26] <NixNewb> is only available from another source
[08:26] <NixNewb> E: Package sun-java5-jre has no installation candidate
[08:26] <LameBMX> all i got is a lil bit o qbasic but it was enough to find and fix based on errors
[08:26] <chab> if it supports , u burn it normally
[08:26] <Jimerson> Anyone know why my fresh install of 6.10 for ppc has no /etc/resolv.conf file, and what I can do to remedy this?
[08:26] <Schalken> chab: well cant i just make it a normal dvd video?
[08:26] <chab> NixNewb u have to enable universe multiverse
[08:26] <chab> Schalken u cant fill 4.7 gb from 700 mb
[08:26] <chab> :)
[08:27] <x-r00t-x> LameBMX, what i install ? there is so many
[08:27] <chab> dvd format is larger than .avi or .divx , that are compressed
[08:27] <chab> this is why dvd has the best quality
[08:27] <NixNewb> okay, i'll search the docs for who to do that
[08:27] <chab> NixNewb just edit /etc/apt/source.list
[08:27] <huck> I'd like to install kiba-dock, on amd64bit Edgy ... but forgot how to force install 386 on 64bit architecture? Can someone remind me?
[08:27] <LameBMX> shalken ... this place is for windows but has everything you need to know about those formats ... www.doom9.org
[08:28] <PORDO> please someone tell me how to get gstreamer vorbis support in edgy. :(
[08:28] <PORDO> it only plays flac right no.w
[08:28] <DeagsDoesLinux> ok so i tried installing ubuntu on a laptop this afternoon and it didnt work i then realized it said desktop version is that the problem or would there be another reason that it would just stop
[08:28] <chab> PORDO
[08:28] <chab> install the codecs
[08:29] <jbinder> DeagsDoesLinux: no, desktop version is for desktops and laptops
[08:29] <DeagsDoesLinux> well it kept stoping
[08:29] <DeagsDoesLinux> i know for a fact the cd is good
[08:29] <DeagsDoesLinux> i used it to install linux on this PC
[08:29] <Slart> DeagsDoesLinux: did you use the ordinary install?
[08:29] <DeagsDoesLinux> yea
[08:29] <jbinder> desktop, server, alternate?
[08:29] <DeagsDoesLinux> its a slow machine but it should eb able to run it it meets all the min requirements
[08:29] <chab> PORDO
[08:30] <jbinder> DeagsDoesLinux: how much ram?
[08:30] <DeagsDoesLinux> 256
[08:30] <jbinder> that should be enough
[08:30] <chab> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-gl gstreamer0.10-plugins-base gstreamer0.10-plugins-good gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse libxine-extracodecs
[08:30] <LameBMX> chab next dvd format is going to use divx hardware compression .. along with mp4 ... and no dvd does not have better quality .. it all depends your encode settings ... use divx with the same source and a high bitrate (still a lot lower than mpg2 that dvd uses) and the same frame size and you will have the same quality if not better depending of course on the bitrate
[08:30] <chab> there ya go :)
[08:30] <Slart> DeagsDoesLinux: there's an alternate install disc somewhere on the ubuntu site.. it's text based and it might work better
[08:30] <chab> LameBMX :)
[08:30] <jbinder> DeagsDoesLinux: it uses less ... everything
[08:30] <chab> DVD has the best quality :)
[08:30] <jbinder> DeagsDoesLinux: it is lighter
[08:30] <chab> dont make me laugh :))
[08:30] <PORDO> chab which codecs?
[08:30] <LameBMX> yea i cant wait to see what they do with blueray and divx/mpg4 compression
[08:31] <chab> PORDO i pasted u a line
[08:31] <DeagsDoesLinux> well i kinda need the thing to look just like this one
[08:31] <PORDO> chab there is no gstreamer0.10-vorbis.
[08:31] <chab> uhm
[08:31] <chab> u can try it anyway
[08:31] <chab> :)
[08:31] <LameBMX> whole archives in HD .... all 9 episodes of starwars .. on one disk
[08:31] <PORDO> chab repaste.  i think i installed them and it did nothing.
[08:31] <chab> LameBMX anything that is compressed , has a poor quality
[08:31] <PORDO> sound is my nightmare in ubuntu.
[08:31] <PORDO> total nightmare.
[08:31] <chab> PORDO ill privmsg u
[08:31] <LameBMX> that strictly depends on the compression
[08:31] <PORDO> i'll never have dmix working on my ICH5, no matter how many hours i spend on help forum.s
[08:31] <PORDO> great.
[08:32] <LameBMX> chab then you are saying that dvd is poor quality
[08:32] <chab> LameBMX im saying that .avi .mpeg .divx etc are poor
[08:32] <jbinder> dvd quality isn't really good
[08:32] <chab> this is what im saying
[08:32] <LameBMX> compared to what?
[08:32] <PORDO> LameBMX DVD is pretty poor quality, yes.
[08:32] <chab> to DVD LameBMX
[08:32] <LameBMX> a 200GB raw videa
[08:32] <chab> i thought it was obvious
[08:32] <PORDO> LameBMX NTSC sucks.
[08:33] <chab> lol
[08:33] <LameBMX> dvd's are compressed chab
[08:33] <chab> LameBMX they are , but not as compressed as avi and divx
[08:33] <PORDO> LameBMX the issue isn't the compression. it's the format.  even with no compression, the resolution sucks.
[08:33] <chab> from all of them , .xvid is acceptable
[08:33] <PORDO> NTSC and PAL suck balls.
[08:33] <Jimerson> I'm having trouble networking in 6.10 running on a G5 iMac. I was told it might be a problem with the DNS servers in my /etc/resolv.conf file, but that file doesn't even exist! Anyone have an idea?
[08:33] <chab> lol
[08:33] <PORDO> chab?
[08:33] <PORDO> codecs?
[08:34] <LameBMX> PORDO, i dont have a movie theater projector ..
[08:34] <chab> they arent codecs PORDO
[08:34] <chab> :)
[08:34] <PORDO> i have no vorbis codec in apt-cache for gstreamer0.10, only for 0.8
[08:34] <PORDO> chab whatever.
[08:34] <PORDO> packages.
[08:34] <PORDO> give them to me!
[08:34] <PORDO> i must have music!
[08:34] <chab> PORDO u tried the line i pasted ?
[08:34] <LameBMX> xvid == divx == mpg4
[08:34] <PORDO> where?
[08:34] <chab> in /query
[08:34] <Schalken> dvd authoring in ubuntu how?
[08:34] <LameBMX> they are based on the same standards
[08:34] <PORDO> oh i see it chab
[08:34] <Slart> Jimerson: I have no idea.. it's always been there on all my installs.. but it's a plain text file.. you could just create it
[08:34] <chab> lol wait
[08:35] <chab> im not registered
[08:35] <LameBMX> and PORDO how do you think you can get better compression
[08:35] <Jimerson> slart: I tried that ;\
[08:35] <PORDO> chab i already have all those installed.
[08:35] <LameBMX> errr video
[08:35] <Slart> Jimerson: and it didn't work?
[08:35] <Jimerson> slart: no sir
[08:35] <chable> uhm
[08:35] <PORDO> LameBMX i wasn't talking about the compression, i was talking about the format itself.
[08:35] <LameBMX> yea
[08:35] <LameBMX> so how do we get better suff
[08:35] <DarthLappy> Does anybody know how to get festival to work? Whenever I try it, it says that it cannot open /dev/dsp
[08:35] <PORDO> LameBMX mpeg-4 or theora video would give you better DVD compression than the MPEG-2 format that's actually used on them.
[08:36] <Jimerson> slart: I just pasted the two IP addresses and ISP address into the file, should anything else be in there?
[08:36] <chable> LameBMX u dont want to tell me that divx and DVD have the same quality
[08:36] <LameBMX> exactly
[08:36] <chable> or i will commit sewaside
[08:36] <LameBMX> chable it all depends on your settings
[08:36] <DarthLappy> Oops, I know what's wrong. :)
[08:36] <Slart> Jimerson: have you checked the man-page for resolve.conf?
[08:36] <chable> settings on what ?
[08:36] <chable> on my TV ?
[08:36] <chable> or DVD player ?
[08:36] <LameBMX> a couple people in here are basing what they see based on what they download
[08:36] <Jimerson> slart: where is that located?
[08:36] <Slart> Jimerson: oops.. there isn't one.. =)... hold on
[08:37] <LameBMX> if divx and mpg4 compression are sooo bad then why are they going to replace the current dvd format?
[08:37] <chable> coz they are shorter ?
[08:37] <chable> and doesnt take so much place on the HDD ?
[08:37] <timfrost> Jimerson: try  lines 'nameserver <ip address>' for each IP address
[08:38] <LameBMX> when in about 2 years blueray discs that hold 25GB are going to be availble cheap
[08:38] <LameBMX> they dont need the space
[08:38] <Slart> Jimerson: ah, sorry.. got some big fingers here.. made a typo.. type "man resolv.conf" into a terminal/console/command prompt
[08:38] <NixNewb> chab, i edited the /etc/apt/sources.list to enable the mulitverse and am still not typing in the right thing to get java
[08:38] <chable> bluerays arent for MOVIES
[08:38] <LameBMX> necessarily
[08:38] <mike-ekim> can someone guiide me throuhg a bind instsallation please?
[08:38] <chable> they are for keeping data
[08:38] <chable> this is why blueray was made
[08:38] <LameBMX> chable, thats the plan for dvd2
[08:38] <LameBMX> last time i checked
[08:39] <chable> i never heard about that plan , but it may be true
[08:39] <LameBMX> blueray + mpg4 (compatible)
[08:39] <chable> whatever
[08:39] <LameBMX> the compatible meaning hardware divx ...
[08:39] <Jimerson> timfrost: the actual word 'nameserver' or is that a variable?
[08:39] <SurfnSanta> hello
[08:39] <chable> if avi and divx are good quality , they should sell avi format movies
[08:39] <SurfnSanta> does anyone use RSS?
[08:39] <chable> or divx :)
[08:39] <Jimerson> slart: will that pull up the file?
[08:39] <NixNewb> why isn't java in that basic "Add-Remove Programs" box
[08:40] <SurfnSanta> and if so what are good readers i can use with short description under topic
[08:40] <Slart> Jimerson: man-pages are the help in linux.. that command will show you the man-page (help page) on the resolv.conf file
[08:40] <chable> NixNewb did u uncommented those repositories i told ?
[08:40] <Jimerson> slart: ahh ok.. I'll try that!
[08:40] <Jimerson> Thanks
[08:41] <Slart> Jimerson: np
[08:41] <timfrost> Jimerson: /etc/resolv.conf syntax uses the keyword. For example 'nameserver 202.27.184.3'
[08:41] <NixNewb> yes, and it took me a while to figure i had to sudo to do it too
[08:41] <chable> lol
[08:41] <Jimerson> timfrost: ok, I'll try that! Thanks both
[08:41] <chable> u need uid 0 for that
[08:41] <chable> now apt-get update
[08:42] <cong0_natty> any of you guys use adhoc on nix?
[08:42] <NixNewb> I'm getting the same results, java-package doesnt exist, nor does sun-java5-jre
[08:43] <cong0_natty> i noticed the ubuntu fontend config for the networking shite doesnt have anything about adhoc.
[08:43] <chable> NixNewb im sure u didnt edited the source.list correctly
[08:43] <NixNewb> ugh
[08:43] <hagabaka> what do i use to build a package from source? apt-build? dpkg-buildpackage?
[08:44] <NixNewb> youre right chable, I've edited this thing 5 times already, the changes don't seem to stick
[08:44] <chable> ./configure && make && make install
[08:44] <NixNewb> is there something I'm doing wrong?
[08:44] <timfrost> NixNewb: which Ubuntu release are you running? Can you pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list?
[08:44] <chable> NixNewb what text editor u use ?
[08:44] <NixNewb> Edgy
[08:44] <NixNewb> pico
[08:44] <LameBMX> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_DVD
[08:44] <chable> well
[08:44] <hagabaka> i want to build a deb package, not just make install
[08:44] <chable> when u want to save , just ctrl + x
[08:44] <chable> then type YES
[08:44] <chable> or Y
[08:45] <chable> and it will save the changes u made
[08:45] <chable> hagabaka im sure that source has a README :)
[08:46] <hagabaka> most source tarballs don't tell you how to make distro packages. this is distro specific
[08:46] <chable> its a .deb package ?
[08:47] <hagabaka> i know checkinstall can do it, and from what i read there are apt-build and dpkg-buildpackage too, but i'm wondering if anyone uses one of them and has an opinion
[08:47] <hagabaka> no, it's a source tarball, and i want to build a .deb package for the installation
[08:47] <chable> i see
[08:47] <chable> what happens when u type ./configure ?
[08:47] <chable> then make
[08:48] <LameBMX> allright all .. im out for my fakeraid install .. wish me luck
[08:48] <chable> lol
[08:48] <chable> good luck then
[08:48] <hagabaka> i know how to compile and install it. my question is about making the package. http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/19
[08:49] <chable> uhm
[08:49] <timfrost> hagabaka: checkinstall (instead of make install) as the last step will give you a .deb to install.
[08:49] <hagabaka> do you know about dpkg-buildpackage?
[08:49] <presto> hello all
[08:50] <chable> u need some packages
[08:50] <chable> for compiling a source package
[08:50] <hagabaka> the source tarball provides a debian/ subdirectory, which i read could be used by that program. but i can't find it in apt-cache
[08:50] <NixNewb> I'm pretty sure I have the multi-verse enabled, now what do I do, the apt-get shows teh same
[08:50] <chable> and yes , u have to use dpkg-buildpackage
[08:50] <PORDO> what's this
[08:50] <PORDO> (rhythmbox:10769): Rhythmbox-WARNING **: Unable to start mDNS browsing: MDNS service is not running
[08:51] <chable> NixNewb type sudo apt-get update
[08:51] <PORDO> chable i fixed the problem.  i had a whole /usr/local/lib/gstreamer thing.
[08:51] <PORDO> don't know how.
[08:51] <presto> can someone help me please im trying to get a driver up and running
[08:51] <Deep__> sudo apt-get install a_perfect_working_ubuntu_box
[08:51] <Deep__> there
[08:51] <Deep__> everything solved :)
[08:51] <chable> lol
[08:51] <chable> hagabaka
[08:51] <chable> u can use an autobuild option
[08:51] <Deep__> hugabuga
[08:51] <Deep__> =)
[08:52] <NixNewb> yes, I have typed sudo apt-get update
[08:52] <chable> to auto-build the package when it's been downloaded
[08:52] <chable> apt-get -b source packagename
[08:52] <chable> NixNewb
[08:52] <chable> now try sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin
[08:53] <wtflol> i got into livecd
[08:53] <presto> anyone?
[08:53] <chable> omg.wtf.lololol
[08:53] <chable> :)
[08:53] <wtflol> i got into livecd but /home only have desktop... how do i get my /home? i wanna backup then reinstall
[08:54] <chable> my ubuntu looks like a mac
[08:54] <chable> haha
[08:55] <chable> i like mac icons
[08:55] <NixNewb> to no avail
[08:55] <chable> NixNewb u want me to send u my source.list ?
[08:55] <wtflol> i got into livecd but /home only have desktop... how do i get my /home? i wanna backup then reinstall
[08:56] <wyld> where can i get flashplayer 9
[08:56] <timfrost> NixNewb: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[08:56] <afflux> wtflol: i thing you said this before.
[08:56] <afflux> wtflol: but wait a second....
[08:56] <hagabaka> wtflol: you need to mount your installation somewhere before you can access it
[08:56] <kb1ibt> wtflol: you have to mount your hard drive,
[08:56] <Schalken> dvd authoring in ubuntu - how?
[08:56] <wtflol> how do i do tat
[08:56] <chable> NixNewb check your query
[08:57] <afflux> wtflol: sudo mount /dev/hdaX /mnt
[08:57] <chable> Schalken what this authoring means , my english is bad
[08:57] <NixNewb> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/845030
[08:57] <afflux> wtflol: hdaX means your ubuntu-partition, you have to now which one this is
[08:57] <Schalken> chable: creating
[08:57] <kb1ibt> chable: creating a DVD image on you computer before burning it
[08:58] <chable> u mean like ISO ?
[08:58] <kb1ibt> basically
[08:58] <chable> NixNewb i need u have to remove the spaces befor the repos
[08:58] <Schalken> chable: dvd video.
[08:58] <NixNewb> oooooh
[08:58] <wyld> I've looked for it in google, and it only sends me to this page: "http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash&promoid=BIOW" which is the download center for the 7.0.69.0 version
[08:58] <NixNewb> thanks for all y'alls patience with me
[08:58] <chable> Schalken to create a image file
[08:58] <chable> dd if=/dev/device_name  of=file.iso bs=1024
[08:59] <chable> replace device_name with dvd, cdrom, or cdrom1 bla
[08:59] <kb1ibt> that's not what he needs
[08:59] <Schalken> chable: no, from an avi.
[08:59] <chable> uhm
[08:59] <chable> heh
[08:59] <chable> i dont know if thats possible :)
[08:59] <kb1ibt> if i was at home i'd have a link to do it
[08:59] <wtflol> how do i find out wats my hdd name hdax?
[09:00] <chable> kb1ibt he wants to convert .avi to DVD
[09:00] <chable> :)
[09:00] <kb1ibt> i know
[09:00] <kb1ibt> it is
[09:00] <kb1ibt> i've done it
[09:00] <timfrost> NixNewb: on line 22 add multiverse, so the line reads 'deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe multiverse'
[09:00] <chable> never heard about
[09:00] <FirstStrike> how can i manually mount my camera?
[09:00] <FirstStrike> it's not auto-mounting anymore
[09:00] <FirstStrike> it's via usb
[09:00] <wyld> whoops, never mind, i found it
[09:01] <wtflol> how do i find out wats my hddd called
[09:01] <presto> can someone please help a friendly newb with some wireless drivers please
[09:01] <chable> my heads still banging
[09:01] <Jimerson> timfrost: The ip addresses already had 'nameserver' in front of them
[09:01] <chable> from the christmas party last night
[09:01] <timfrost> NixNewb: after that, you need to re-srun 'sudo apt-get update' then you will be able to install the java packages
[09:02] <timfrost> Jimerson: can you pastebin /etc/resolv.conf?
[09:02] <Jimerson> timfrost: I'm not familiar with pastebin
[09:02] <timfrost> !pastebin |  Jimerson
[09:02] <ubotu> Jimerson: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:03] <wtflol> how do i find out wats my hddd called
[09:03] <kb1ibt> Schalken: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/04/17/2058219
[09:03] <wtflol> !hdx
[09:03] <NixNewb> same results
[09:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hdx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:03] <Jimerson> ah hah..
[09:03] <Jimerson> ok
[09:03] <NixNewb> perhaps I should sleep on it
[09:04] <chable> NixNewb u didnt solve it ?
[09:04] <ares_> hey
[09:04] <Schalken> kb1ibt: CLI... :(
[09:04] <Jimerson> timfrost: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38853/
[09:04] <NixNewb> no
[09:04] <ares_> I have a network question
[09:04] <ares_> for ubuntu
[09:04] <chable> thats weird
[09:05] <kb1ibt> Schalken: sorry there might be better now but that's how i do it
[09:05] <wise> o if I have WinXP on hd0 (sda) and install Debian on hd1 (sdb) with GRUB on the MBR, will it give me an option on boot?  Both are master SATA drives on SATA1 and SATA2 (channels)
[09:05] <wise> Ubuntu, not Debian - sorry.
[09:05] <Schalken> kb1ibt: thanks
[09:05] <wise> I'm installing Ubuntu and asked that in #debian... they told me to get lost.
[09:05] <chable> wise
[09:05] <kb1ibt> i also found another link but it is basically the same steps
[09:05] <wise> Sincei t was ubuntu
[09:05] <chable> GRUB should give u options
[09:05] <chable> but be sure that windows is already there
[09:05] <ares_> I have money and need to buy a network card for my laptop.  any suggestions for cards that work right out of the box for ubuntu?
[09:05] <wise> chable - I shall thanks.
[09:06] <chable> anyways , i wouldnt install 2 OS`s on the same HDD
[09:06] <NixNewb> I thought installing java would be as easy as going to the Add-Remove Programs dialog but i guess I was wrong
[09:06] <wtflol> when i trty to mount they say imust specify the filesystem type
[09:06] <chable> they both write on the same MBR
[09:06] <wtflol> ??
[09:06] <timfrost> Jimerson: if the IP addresses are correct for your ISP's name servers, then that looks OK.
[09:06] <wise> chable; read the question - they're not.
[09:06] <chable> i dont know , i tried it and it acts wierd
[09:06] <chable> oh
[09:06] <chable> sorry
[09:06] <wtflol> when i trty to mount they say imust specify the filesystem type?? sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt
[09:06] <wise> chable; please refrain from answering questions to which you do not know the answer?
[09:06] <chable> i did not read it entirely
[09:06] <Jimerson> timfrost: so it's another issue.. hrm
[09:06] <wise> It's cooll.  :D  <3
[09:06] <chable> lol
[09:06] <NixNewb> I installed windows first with enough free space for unbuntu, then i installed ubuntu, it seemed to have worked
[09:07] <NixNewb> I don't know about long term results
[09:07] <kb1ibt> wtflol: you didn't tell it which partition to mount only the device
[09:07] <chable> u have 2 diiferent HDD`s >?
[09:07] <ares_> ~
[09:07] <ares_> any ideas?
[09:07] <chable> then GRUB has nothing to do with the other HDD
[09:07] <chable> u can choose which hdd to be the first one , from BIOS
[09:08] <wise> Q: I have WinXP on 80gb HDD (hd0/sda) and am installing Ubuntu on 80gb HDD (hd0/sdb) - if I add Grub to the MBR of the Ubuntu disc, will this allow me to boot either sda or sdb at boot?
[09:08] <kb1ibt> wtflol: example it might be sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mount if you only have one partition on the drive
[09:08] <chable> lol
[09:08] <wise> chable; not discounting you- just refraising the question.
[09:08] <timfrost> Jimerson: what is the problem?
[09:08] <wise> rephrasing.  Sorry I speak yiddish and wollof :(
[09:08] <spowers> i don't know if this is a common question, but why does the installer in edgy not let me proceed past the "prepare mount points" step?
[09:08] <chable> my english is bad also
[09:08] <chable> but i told u already
[09:08] <Jimerson> timfrost: I can't connect to a network with ethernet or wirelessly
[09:08] <wise> no worries chable my dear.
[09:08] <racarr> Does anyone have any advice on setting up bluetooth? It's a laptop with an intel chipset
[09:09] <wyld> what is the sudo command to create a folder in another folder?
[09:09] <wtflol> when i trty to mount they say imust specify the filesystem type?? sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt
[09:09] <racarr> !bluetooth
[09:09] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[09:09] <spowers> i've got swap and root both picked out, so i don't understand why the holdup
[09:09] <chable> so GRUB wont help u if u have 2 diff, HDD`s
[09:09] <kb1ibt> wtflol: you didn't tell it which partition to mount only the device example it might be sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mount if you only have onepartition on the drive\
[09:10] <wtflol> how do i mount the first partition
[09:10] <wise> chable; Which HDD should I install GRUB to then?  I wish to; I suppose: have the option to boot either.
[09:10] <chable> wise , grub is installing on the Ubuntu one
[09:10] <wise> What is the best way to install WinXP on one HDD and Ubuntu on one HDD (both HDDs being 80gb SATA) and have this install.
[09:10] <timfrost> Jimerson: what devices are reported by 'ifconfig -a'?
[09:10] <wise> have this setup* I mean.
[09:11] <chable> wise , u can choose which HDD to use ,  by entering setup at restart
[09:11] <chable> sata1 or sata2
[09:11] <wise> chable; Thank you - you're not chealer by anychance are you?
[09:11] <kb1ibt> wtflol: sudo mount /dev/sdaX /mnt where X is the partition you want to mount you would find what X is from something like fdisk
[09:12] <chable> chealer ?
[09:12] <Jimerson> timfrost: from the os x terminal.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38854/
[09:12] <curs0r> you're all a bunch of very sext nerds!
[09:12] <chable> unknown term sorry
[09:12] <curs0r> sexy!
[09:12] <ares_> whats a good network adapter for a laptop that works right out of the box?
[09:12] <wtflol> oj thnx
[09:12] <wise> curs0r; You have no idea.  Wanna cam?  :D
[09:12] <curs0r> there, little ego boost for you all
[09:12] <wise> curs0r, you're sexy too.  Maybe too sexy.  like... bannable offense kind of sexy.
[09:13] <chable> im the mosr sexiest man in jamaica
[09:13] <ares_> *
[09:13] <wtflol> when i try to enter mount i get permission denined.. wats wrong
[09:13] <chable> most even
[09:14] <timfrost> Jimerson: what does the Linux ifconfig detect?
[09:14] <Jimerson> let me go check.. brb
[09:14] <kb1ibt> wtflol: it needs to be sudo mount since just regular mount won't have permissions
[09:14] <wtflol> ok
[09:14] <wtflol> i did a sudo mount
[09:15] <chable> NixNewb any news with your java ?
[09:15] <missing_> can anyone help me in creating a framebuffer image for the kernel boot logo?
[09:15] <wtflol> but still get permission denied] 
[09:15] <missing_> google wont give much abou fblogo and it seems im missing netpbm
[09:17] <kb1ibt> wtflol: try creating a directory (example: sudo mkdir /mnt/sdaX) and see if you can then run somethnig like sudo mount /dev/sdaX /mnt/sdaX
[09:17] <wtflol> k
[09:18] <wtflol> i can cant create dir.. read only file system
[09:18] <kb1ibt> what does ls /mnt tell you?
[09:18] <wtflol> permissino denied
[09:18] <frogzoo> missing_: http://www.osresources.com/1_5_en.html
[09:19] <saturn_> Hello!
[09:19] <chable> hello
[09:20] <andrewm> hey guys, quick question..just changed my video card and xorg crashed so i backed up the old xorg.conf and moved it to xorg.conf.bak & restarted X... It worked but now i have no xorg.conf...how do i tell x to write out the current config ?
[09:20] <saturn_> I want to help Ubuntu project
[09:20] <frogzoo> andrewm: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:20] <kb1ibt> wtflol: i have no clue why it isn't liking you
[09:21] <ares_> g
[09:21] <andrewm> frogzoo, thanks
[09:21] <saturn_> I can write programms in C# C++ Visual Basic and allso translate to russian
[09:22] <wtflol> i try restart
[09:22] <saturn_> what will You recomend?
[09:22] <missing_> frogzoo: ja ser guht thank you if i can help you by bringing you a princess let me know
[09:22] <saturn_> Could anybody help me?
[09:22] <kb1ibt> is there any reason why wpa_supplicant won't parse it's config file correctly why i have ctrl_interface_group=wheel uncommented
[09:23] <Jimerson> timfrost: from linux http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38855/
[09:23] <saturn_> Anybody hear me????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[09:23] <PORDO> anyone else here have Twinkle?
[09:24] <PORDO> i'd like to test it to see whether's any indication when using ZRTP.
[09:24] <kb1ibt> saturn_: no
[09:24] <NixNewb> thanks for all y'alls help, especially chable and tim
[09:24] <kb1ibt> :-)
[09:24] <saturn_> HELLO!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:24] <chable> NixNewb its sorted ?
[09:25] <missing_> what is it saturn?
[09:25] <missing_> what do u need help with?
[09:25] <saturn_> I just want to help the project, why you can't answer me?
[09:25] <missing_> O_o
[09:26] <NixNewb> its not fixed, but i'm going to bed
[09:26] <chable> KLF is gonna rock ya
[09:26] <chable> ok NixNewb , good night then
[09:26] <chable> point to the fact , that time is eternal
[09:26] <ChevronX> I just downloaded Planeshift.bin, how do I install it
[09:26] <missing_> i think u want to go to the ubuntu website i signed up for translation myself for spanish
[09:27] <saturn_> missing_: I want to help the Ubuntu project, I can translate some documents into Russian and I can write programms on C#, C++ and Visual Basic
[09:27] <timfrost> Jimerson: it appears that linux is detecting eth0 (MacoS device en0).  Is that the wired connection?  I don't know what is needed for the other card to be configured, as my config is intel/AMD wired-only.
[09:27] <missing_> you cant just join in you have to submit some fixes pathces and so on and then eventually you will be asked to be a comitter of some sorts
[09:28] <Jimerson> timfrost: it is a wired connection right now, because I couldn't get the airport extreme working.
[09:28] <kb1ibt> is there any reason why wpa_supplicant won't parse it's config file correctly when i have ctrl_interface_group=wheel uncommented
[09:28] <chable> i have hair on my nose
[09:28] <saturn_> missing_: Can I both translate somethind and programm?
[09:28] <ChevronX> I just downloaded Planeshift.bin, how do I install it
[09:28] <Jimerson> timfrost: I read that wired was easier to get working than wireless on my setup, and it would be easier to address other problems if I was working from linux instead of hopping back and forth between OSs
[09:28] <missing_> sure let me give u a link for translation sign up
[09:30] <missing_> saturn: go here http://www.ubuntu.com/community at the bottom you should be able to help in many ways
[09:30] <timfrost> Jimerson: wired does tend to be easier, as you can choose either to fix the config or to use DHCP.
[09:30] <wtflol> i did sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt after i reload livecd but it says permission denied when i try to enter it
[09:31] <harry> how do i remove the history of the commands I typed in terminal?
[09:32] <wise> harry; bsh?
[09:32] <wtflol> i did sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt after i reload livecd but it says permission denied when i try to enter it
[09:32] <missing_> harry: thats in your home dirrectory listed as .bash_hystory
[09:33] <harry> wise: yeah i think?
[09:33] <mrgreen> hi having a little problem after upgrading to edgy . gdm looks fine but when i login i get an out of sync w/ my monitor. i ran dpkg-reconfigure and reset refresh reates but its not using them
[09:33] <harry> missing_: I dont see any .bash_history on my home folder
[09:33] <mrgreen> any help/tips is appreciated
[09:34] <missing_> press ctrl+h to reveal hidden files
[09:34] <Jimerson> timfrost: thanks for all the advice
[09:34] <harry> missing_ by the way how i make my folder hidden?
[09:35] <Em3rald> is there an easy way in Beryl to have different desktop wallpaper on each virtual desktop?
[09:35] <missing_> put a . in front
[09:35] <harry> missing_ by the way how do i make my folder hidden?
[09:35] <missing_> put a . in front of anyfile u want hidden
[09:36] <wise> ubuntu blows
[09:36] <missing_> jajaja
[09:36] <hc> >.<
[09:36] <missing_> funny
[09:36] <missing_> thats your prefence
[09:36] <harry> missing_ and back to the history problem, how do I remove the history of commands that i typed?
[09:37] <missing_> harry: well what i would do is open the file and then delete the contents of it and save
[09:37] <saturn_> missing_: i subscribed to translation (http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators) and now subscribing to Programming and Packaging
[09:38] <harry> missing: thanks i already done that. can i password protect my folder?
[09:38] <missing_> harry: well u can set ownership of it
[09:39] <harry> missing: how is that?
[09:39] <missing_> saturn: great was there any work pending? when i joined there wasnt any
[09:39] <wtflol> i did sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt after i reload livecd but it says permission denied when i try to enter it
[09:39] <Hmg4> Anyone know a good conversion tool for WIndows like Convmv ( http://linuxappfinder.com/package/convmv ) ? Trying to rsync my Win and Linux computers
[09:39] <missing_> right click properties and then permission tab
[09:40] <_grego_> hello
[09:40] <wtflol> i cant chmod 777
[09:40] <wtflol> it says its a read only fule system
[09:40] <wtflol> im trynig to acccess /mny
[09:41] <wtflol> access /mnt
[09:41] <PORDO> i can't wait till there's twinkle .9 on ubuntu.
[09:41] <PORDO> zrtp!
[09:41] <missing_> twincle?
[09:42] <Naik0> How do i install an compiler?
[09:42] <_grego_> i just stopped the /etc/init.d/firestarter but could not connect on my web server port 85 from outside. Also, the  /sbin/iptables -L gives me nothing so there no restricted rules for connection.
[09:42] <LameBMX> ahhhh first quickie howto didnt work
[09:42] <PORDO> missing_ voip app.
[09:42] <missing_> naiko: sudo aptitude install
[09:42] <Naik0> missing_: witch compiler should i choose?
[09:43] <missing_> pord: skype doesnt cut it?
[09:43] <missing_> i think the norm is gcc
[09:43] <wtflol> i cant seem to access sda1 after i sudo mount it into /mnt
[09:43] <_grego_> is there other protection mechanism who block the connection ?
[09:43] <Jsm06> quick question: are their any ATI drivers that work? the ones i tried wont install
[09:44] <mns> grego: a firewall?
[09:44] <missing_> wtflol: u need to mount it to media where u have acess to it under regular user and not root
[09:44] <timfrost> wtflol: what is /dev/sda1 supposed to be?  Read-only usually applies for a CD/DVD
[09:44] <missing_> wtflol: or anywhere in past your home folder
[09:44] <wtflol> its a hdd
[09:44] <_grego_> mns : i think i stopped firestarter
[09:44] <wtflol> ok let me try home folder
[09:45] <missing_> wtflol: make a folder for it 1st
[09:45] <mns> grego: what exactly are you trying to do? re-enable it?
[09:45] <wtflol> how do i unmount sda1
[09:45] <PORDO> does anyone else here have zfone?
[09:45] <mns> sorry i totally missed the rest of your comments
[09:45] <missing_> wtflol: do u know what the filesystem is or is it even formatted?
[09:45] <mr_blue> mns, no i want to connect from outside on my web server port 85
[09:46] <mns> o
[09:46] <Naik0> !ati
[09:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:46] <mns> u can make rules in firestarter
[09:46] <mns> to prevent incoming connections on all ports except 85
[09:46] <wtflol> missing_: its ntfs
[09:46] <missing_> ohh okay
[09:46] <missing_> wtflol: do u want to be able to write to it?
[09:46] <frogzoo> wtflol: sudo umount /dev/sda1
[09:46] <mr_blue> mns, ok but if i stop it, normally i can connect right ?
[09:46] <mns> then portforward the router as well or modem
[09:47] <mns> u should be able to unless u have multiple firewalls
[09:47] <mns> are u behind a router or a modem?
[09:47] <wtflol> i want to backup my /home from livecd
[09:47] <mr_blue> mns, how to know if i have  multiple firewalls
[09:47] <mr_blue> mns, normally no, i am not behind a router
[09:47] <missing_> ohhhhhh
[09:47] <mns> well...my modem and router have a built in firewall
[09:48] <mns> o...modem?
[09:48] <mns> my modem has one :D
[09:48] <mr_blue> mns, yes me too but it is desactivate
[09:48] <mns> then it should work
[09:48] <missing_> wtflol: i had to do that already too but i just mounted with no special arguments
[09:48] <mns> unless u configured the webserver incorrectly
[09:48] <mns> r u using apache 2.2?
[09:49] <mr_blue> mns it works fine from a local connection
[09:49] <mr_blue> mns yes
[09:49] <mns> from inside the lan right?
[09:49] <mr_blue> mns yes
[09:49] <mns> not just from your computer
[09:49] <missing_> wtflol: have u tried maybe a livecd by linspire for future use i mean it configures everything for you thats how i got my initial fstab and xorg.conf for bsd
[09:49] <mns> because the only possible thing that could be is the a firewall blocking incoming connection...from what i know
[09:49] <wtflol> ok i'll dl it
[09:50] <mr_blue> only my computer is on the lan
[09:50] <wtflol> i mount sda1 into /home/ubuntu but i cant find it
[09:50] <mns> well...yea...u probably have the configuration wrong
[09:50] <mr_blue> mns how to know if there is an other firewal on my box ?
[09:50] <mr_blue> mns i just know firestarter
[09:50] <mns> nmap -a localhost
[09:51] <mr_blue> mns ok
[09:51] <mns> see if port 80 is blocked
[09:51] <missing_> wtflol: try to create a folder first in the Desktop
[09:51] <missing_> wtflol: the mount the drive to that
[09:51] <mr_blue> nmap: option `-a' is ambiguous
[09:51] <wtflol> k
[09:52] <mns> weird...sorry, i know there is a paramater to specify
[09:52] <mns> to look up connections...
[09:52] <mns> i know nmap will do it
[09:52] <timfrost> mr_blue: what is the IP address of the PC?  If it is private (10.x, 192.168.x, or 172.16.x-172.31.x), you need to have port forwarding set up so that port 85 is forwarded correctly
[09:52] <erpo> I think there is a bug in the oprofile package. Could someone running Edgy do an apt-get install oprofile, then a sudo opcontrol --no-vmlinux --start and tell me if it errors out?
[09:52] <mns> wait...blue, u probably dont have nmap
[09:52] <mns> go to synaptic and download it
[09:53] <mns> just type in nmap and it should pop up
[09:53] <mrgreen> where is the current users resolution/refresh settings stored?
[09:53] <mr_blue> mns, i have nmap installed
[09:53] <mns> one sec...let me get the command
[09:53] <mr_blue> timfrost, it is not a private address
[09:54] <erpo> mrgreen: Foot menu -> System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution
[09:54] <mrgreen> i cant login
[09:54] <mrgreen> where in the filesystem are they?
[09:54] <mr_blue> mns : could you try : wget 82.230.46.152:85
[09:54] <mrgreen> resolution settings are buggered up. cant get past login w/ user but i created a new one and was able to get in
[09:54] <erpo> mrgreen: You can't log in because the resolution/refresh rate is set too high?
[09:54] <missing_> wtflol: did it work?
[09:54] <wtflol> nope
[09:54] <wtflol> it says rad only file system
[09:55] <wtflol> read only
[09:55] <mns> nmap -p localhost
[09:55] <mns> try that
[09:55] <mrgreen> its saying out of sync.... 80 or something and the highest it can handle is 70
[09:55] <LameBMX> does dmraid take forever to function
[09:55] <mrgreen> i already edited xorg.conf
[09:55] <erpo> mrgreen: I don't know where the per-user refresh rate settings are stored. My guess would be either in a .directory in the user's home directory or in gconf somewhere. Try reducing the HorizSync or VertRefresh lines in xorg.conf
[09:55] <mr_blue> mns : here the result of a nmap -A localhost : 85/tcp   open  http       Apache httpd 2.0.55 ((Ubuntu) PHP/5.1.2)
[09:56] <missing_> wtflol: well if u want to back your home folder youre gonna have to use something else besides a ntfs file system becasue the live cd doest support ntfs writing for that u need ntfs3g
[09:56] <erpo> mrgreen: And make sure you're editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf, not some other xorg.conf.
[09:56] <mns> it's open
[09:56] <mr_blue> mns yes
[09:56] <mrgreen> erpo: done. didnt work. i re-ran dpkg-recofnigure xserver-xorg too
[09:56] <mns> hmm...did u exit your configuration fil?
[09:56] <missing_> wtflol: i suggest you get a ftp or something of the like
[09:56] <mns> file*
[09:56] <mrgreen> it was fine until i upgraded to edgy
[09:57] <erpo> mrgreen: You upgraded from dapper to edgy?
[09:57] <mrgreen> yes
[09:57] <mns> well nmap from a local computer checks for ports open on the computer itself
[09:57] <mrgreen> and havent been able to get it to work since
[09:57] <mns> but not the router and modem info
[09:57] <mns> i believe
[09:57] <erpo> mrgreen: That worked fine for me, but every other person I know who has upgraded from dapper to edgy has had problems problems problems.
[09:57] <erpo> mrgreen: Wipe your system and install edgy fresh.
[09:57] <mns> wait...blue
[09:57] <mns> u can't see your own webserver from the ip address
[09:58] <mns> is that what you are trying to do?
[09:58] <missing_> wtflol: i would let you use my ftp server since i have a shitload of banwith (fiber optics)  but the thing is bugered up and it wont authenticate properly
[09:58] <mns> because u can't do it...u have to have someone else to test it
[09:58] <mrgreen> erpo. i see ok
[09:58] <timfrost> mr_blue: I can connect to you - 'telnet  82.230.46.152 85' works, but I don't get a response from the web server for 'GET / HTTP/1.1'.  Does the web server recognise that IP address?
[09:59] <missing_> wtflol: hey actually you can probable use cygwin to mount the linux files system but that a pain in the ass and u have to do it from the windows side
[09:59] <erpo> Could someone please do a sudo opcontrol --no-vmlinux --start and tell me what it says on Edgy? I think opcontrol is broken
[09:59] <mns> mrblue: give your ip addr. to someone you trust to test
[09:59] <wtflol> hmm ok i can mount it .. will be copying my ext2 stuff into ntfs partition
[09:59] <missing_> sudo: opcontrol: command not found
[09:59] <wtflol> later when ubuntu is up i'll copy over
[09:59] <mr_blue> timfrost, if i tell apache to listen on the port 80 it works fine with the ip address, the problem is with the port 85
[09:59] <erpo> sudo apt-get install oprofile
[10:00] <chinabiue> o
[10:00] <mr_blue> mns, ok
[10:00] <missing_> wtflol: ohh u have ext2?
[10:00] <mns> your config file isnt configured properly most likely
[10:00] <chinabiue> ?
[10:00] <missing_> wtflol: theres a windows driver for that so u can back it up from within windows
[10:00] <mns> Listen 85?
[10:00] <mr_blue> mns, ok icheck thx anyway
[10:00] <mns> :( sorry
[10:00] <mns> i tried
[10:01] <wtflol> wats that driver?
[10:01] <mrgreen> erpo: is it possible to do a reinstall w/o formatting  everthing?
[10:01] <mr_blue> mns, no problemo ;)
[10:01] <missing_> erpo: it gives me no outpout
[10:01] <mns> i mean..i had the exact same problems
[10:02] <mns> so i'm just saying the things that person told me
[10:02] <missing_> missing@missinX:~/Desktop$ sudo opcontrol --no-vmlinux
[10:02] <missing_> missing@missinX:~/Desktop$
[10:02] <mike-ekim> can someone help me, I did a couple tries to install bind, and now everytime i mtry to apt-get install bind9, it doesnt really install it
[10:02] <mike-ekim> gioves me some dpkg errors
[10:02] <mike-ekim> and doesnt set up the /.etc/init.d script as it usually does
[10:02] <erpo> missing_: sudo opcontrol --no-vmlinux --start
[10:02] <mike-ekim> /etc/init.d **
[10:02] <missing_> erpo: its not harmfull is it?
[10:02] <missing_> jjajaja
[10:03] <erpo> mrgreen: Yes. However, I would recommend a clean sweep. Can you backup your user files? Is /home on a separate partition?
[10:03] <missing_> missing@missinX:~/Desktop$ sudo opcontrol --no-vmlinux --start
[10:03] <missing_> Using default event: GLOBAL_POWER_EVENTS:100000:1:1:1
[10:03] <missing_> Using 2.6+ OProfile kernel interface.
[10:03] <missing_> Using log file /var/lib/oprofile/oprofiled.log
[10:03] <missing_> Daemon started.
[10:03] <missing_> Profiler running.
[10:03] <missing_> missing@missinX:~/Desktop$
[10:03] <gnomefreak> missing_: dont paste in here please use pastebin
[10:03] <missing_> pastebin?
[10:03] <erpo> missing_: No, not harmful. And thanks, but mind the pasting.
[10:03] <gnomefreak> !pastebin | missing_
[10:03] <ubotu> missing_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:04] <missing_> i c
[10:04] <erpo> missing_: You'll want to run sudo opcontrol --shutdown before much longer.
[10:04] <erpo> missing_: It's not harmful but it does create system overhead while it's running.
[10:05] <missing_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38857/
[10:05] <missing_> erpo: ohh i dont think it will mess with me compiling a kernel will it?
[10:06] <erpo> missing_: It will not cause errors, but it will slow the compiling down about 1%-8%
[10:06] <missing_> no biggie
[10:06] <erpo> missing_: There's no reason to leave it running if you're not using it. It's for collecting performance data.
[10:06] <missing_> thanks for the warning
[10:07] <erpo> missing_: Thanks for the help. I guess it's just F'd on my laptop and my desktop in exactly the same way, but not yours.
[10:07] <erpo> missing_: You're running edgy, right?
[10:07] <missing_> yes
[10:08] <missing_> erpo: well i just killed it
[10:08] <erpo> missing_: Huh. That's so weird. Because opcontrol is a shell script, and when I start it, I get an error from the interpreter.
[10:08] <mike-ekim> anyone set up bind with ubuntu before?
[10:08] <mike-ekim> having some probs
[10:09] <mike-ekim> sry.
[10:09] <wtflol> how do i show all my partition's name?
[10:09] <wtflol> liek sda1 sda2 sda3
[10:09] <erpo> mike-ekim: Sorry, no, but if you explain your problem you're more likely to catch the attention of someone who can fix it.
[10:10] <kidbuntu> whats a 644 permission?
[10:10] <Algorithmist> kidbuntu,  look it up!
[10:10] <mike-ekim> well im trying to apt-get bind9
[10:10] <mike-ekim> and throughout the process, it tells me this
[10:10] <erpo> kidbuntu: the owner can read and write the file, and group members and other users can only read the file.
[10:10] <mike-ekim> /var/lib/dpkg/info/bind.prerm: line 10: /etc/init.d/bind: No such file or directory
[10:10] <mike-ekim> dpkg: error processing bind (--remove):
[10:10] <kyncani> wtflol: fdisk -l /dev/sda
[10:11] <kidbuntu> erpo: it showed up when i started up ubuntu, but before that i removed the hardisk and use different ubuntu w/ different harddisk
[10:12] <erpo> mike-ekim: That means the computer is trying to remove a package from the system in the process of trying to install bind9, and that the removal script has a bug in it (probably, from your description). You should report the bug.
[10:12] <erpo> mike-ekim: Actually, before you report the bug, you should make sure that you have correctly identified the error. When you have a number of errors or suspicious statements leading to some kind of failure, you need to start troubleshooting with the FIRST error.
[10:12] <kidbuntu> !mkv
[10:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:13] <Mase> hi guys, is there a way to quickly switch users on ubuntu which my parents can use which will just present them with a selection of people who are logged in and let them pick from that
[10:13] <Mase> rather than having to type in the username again
[10:14] <Mase> then it asking if they want to create a new session etc..
[10:14] <erpo> Mase: You might try using a gdm theme that supports the face browser, but in general I believe the answer to your question is no.
[10:14] <wtflol> when i try to mount my linux partition i get wrong fs type
[10:14] <wtflol> how can i mount it then
[10:15] <Mase> wtflol, what type of file system is it ?
[10:15] <erpo> wtflol: Explain exactly what you want to accomplish and what commands you have tried.
[10:15] <wtflol> ext2
[10:15] <wtflol> im in livecd trying to backup my /home
[10:15] <brainiac_ghost> this can't be goos
[10:15] <brainiac_ghost> *good
[10:15] <Mase> erpo, thanks i will try that...i swear there was one in warty...or at least my parents didn't have an issue with wartt
[10:15] <Mase> wrty
[10:15] <brainiac_ghost> i hibernated my system
[10:15] <wtflol> i wnna copy my /home into ntf partitino then later transfer back
[10:15] <Mase> bah you know what i mean :)(
[10:15] <brainiac_ghost> and now it is just stuck on the bios
[10:16] <brainiac_ghost> hi ubuntu
[10:16] <kyncani> wtflol: try mount -t auto
[10:16] <kidbuntu> how do i reduce the size of the Fonts of the subtitles on mplayer
[10:17] <erpo> wtflol: You will need ntfs write support for that, which I think is not included on the live cd.
[10:17] <erpo> Mase: Well, if you find out how, let me know. I crave that feature myself.
[10:17] <wtflol> mount -t auto wat does it do? i try mounting again but doesnt work
[10:17] <wtflol> erpo: omg howe do i keep my /home? im trying to reinstal ubuntu
[10:18] <erpo> wtflol: Do you have windows?
[10:18] <wtflol> yea] 
[10:18] <brainiac_ghost> wtflol: copy it to a diff part
[10:18] <Wolfy|GETUROWNFO> hello everyone
[10:18] <wtflol> when i reinstall ubuntu which parts get erased?
[10:18] <wtflol> how do i use windows to backup my /home
[10:18] <erpo> wtflol: Boot into windows and download a program called explore2fs. Then use the "Export directory" function to save /home
[10:18] <wtflol> ok thnx
[10:18] <XP1> is it possible to create a domain and have group policies like windows 2003?
[10:18] <erpo> wtflol: np
[10:19] <wtflol> btw which parts of the disk gets erased when i reinstall ubuntu without formatting
[10:19] <Wolf_Demon> So I'm having a bit of trouble...I just installed Ubuntu on an old laptop....and there's nothing but a screen with a cursor on it now :\
[10:19] <XP1> anyone? ^^
[10:20] <erpo> XP1: Do you want a linux machine to act as a domain controller, or do you want to have domain-like features in an all-linux environment?
[10:20] <brainiac_ghost> OMFG
[10:20] <brainiac_ghost> ubuntu just totally screwed up my system
[10:20] <XP1> erpo, domain controller
[10:21] <erpo> wtflol: Without formatting, files are only overwritten when you reinstall. However, I would recommend a full wipe and reinstall as overwrites tend to be prone to issues.
[10:21] <wtflol> ok
[10:21] <wtflol> btw why cant i mount a ext2 partition
[10:21] <kidbuntu> how do i return my ubuntu from its previous state were no "644 permission......" showing up after i enter my user and password
[10:22] <erpo> XP1: I do not know. However, if it is possible, it is probably necessary to use a program called samba on the linux DC.
[10:22] <wtflol> i can mount my ntfs partitino, but not ext2
[10:22] <XP1> erpo, i see
[10:22] <erpo> wtflol: I don't know why you can't mount an ext2 partition. What command are you entering? What is the error message you get when you enter that command?
[10:23] <wtflol> sudo mount /dev/sda5 $HOME/Desktop/folder
[10:23] <missing_> wtflol: there is a windows driver for ext2 try to back it up with your windows XP
[10:23] <erpo> kidbuntu: Slow down. Describe in detail what you are doing on your system, what you expected to happen, and what actually happened.
[10:23] <mike-ekim> quit
[10:23] <brainiac_ghost> hmm, can somebody help me
[10:23] <wtflol> sudo mount /dev/sda5 $HOME/Desktop/folder -> i get mount: wrong fs, bad option, bad superblock etc
[10:24] <brainiac_ghost> basically i hibernated my PC using ubuntu and now when i start the bios doesn't get past initialising USB controllers - done
[10:24] <kidbuntu> erpo: it just bug me everytime i see the "that the home .dmrc...........644 permission". i mean is there something i did?
[10:24] <Wolf_Demon> okay, apparently I didn't install it....how exactly do i install ubuntu??
[10:24] <missing_> can anyone plz help undertand how to decide with patch goes with witch source? im trying to patch 2.6.19 with a pre emp patch of patch-2.6.19-rt9
[10:25] <erpo> wtflol: Are you sure /dev/sda5 is your root or home partition?
[10:25] <wtflol> fdisk -l /dev/sda says its Linux
[10:25] <erpo> missing_: I never mess with kernel patching. I just download the full source tarball each time.
[10:26] <erpo> wtflol: Ok, then try sudo mount -t ext2 /dev/sda5 $HOME/Desktop/folder
[10:26] <PORDO> anyone know what this is about?  JavaPluginFactory5 init - no agent?
[10:26] <compengi> Wolf_Demon, you boot your ubuntu cd... you choose run as live and install when it loads up you will see on your desktop an install icon double click on it and follow down the steps
[10:26] <missing_> yeah i have no problems with those
[10:26] <dtrump> hey
[10:27] <wtflol> erpo: same error.. wrong fs type etc
[10:27] <Wolf_Demon> compengi, it didn't give me any option to run as live
[10:27] <compengi> Wolf_Demon, O.o
[10:27] <compengi> did it boot?
[10:27] <PORDO> does anyone know what  JavaPluginFactory5 is ?
[10:27] <Wolf_Demon> yes
[10:28] <erpo> wtflol: First type mount by itself to make sure it is not already mounted. Then type fsck /dev/sda5
[10:28] <compengi> Wolf_Demon, didn't it show you options to choose?
[10:28] <mns> i thought u had to have a live version to do the live thing
[10:28] <PORDO> oh, i need java 5
[10:28] <mns> :( damn didnt know that
[10:28] <Wolf_Demon> conpengi, i don't believe it did...let me try again
[10:29] <brainiac_ghost> please can someone help me, my PC is totally unbootable (off anything) and i really need to get it fixed
[10:29] <compengi> Wolf_Demon, choose run live and install option i think it's the first choice
[10:29] <wtflol> erpo: fsck says group descriptors look bad.. tryting backup blocks.. /dev/sda5 not cleanly unmounted, check forced and asks me to fix inode 44961 is in use, but dtime set
[10:29] <wtflol> i keep answering yes
[10:30] <erpo> wtflol: Each time you say yes, you are modifying your filesystem in some way. Be careful.
[10:30] <wtflol> hmm opps
[10:30] <wtflol> been pressing yes for alot of qns
[10:30] <erpo> wtflol: It's not always bad. It sounds like your filesystem need it. But be aware.
[10:30] <Wolf_Demon> compengi, okay...well i see "Start or install Ubuntu" that's the one where i got the blank screen at with just a cursor that didn't move at all, "Start Ubuntu in safe graphics mode" "Check CD for defects" "memory test" and "boot from first hard disk"
[10:30] <kidbuntu> erpo: i removed this hard disk and used different ubuntu, i did sudo chmod a+rwx /media/home/haboy -R
[10:31] <wtflol> btw i accidentally ran some sony backup thing in grub... then i cant boot into ubuntu.. probaly tat messed eveyrthing up
[10:31] <compengi> Wolf_Demon, yeah choose the first option
[10:31] <missing_> compiling a FreeBSD kernel is so much easier even though it doesnt have xconfig
[10:31] <wtflol> hmm i'bve been presing yes for a minute
[10:31] <compengi> Wolf_Demon, start and install
[10:31] <compengi> Wolf_Demon, start or install*
[10:31] <Wolf_Demon> compengi, last time it just froze doing that :\
[10:31] <erpo> missing_: I have never tried compiling an FBSD kernel, but I admire their philosophy.
[10:32] <wtflol> is there a yes to all optino?
[10:32] <compengi> Wolf_Demon, yeah it's normal because it's loading the whole os from a cd
[10:32] <compengi> Wolf_Demon, it should take time
[10:32] <Wolf_Demon> the cd drive stopped doing anything
[10:33] <missing_> erpo: to tell u the truth even thoug u have to configure everything by hand its a whole lot easier cause they have that darn handbook
[10:33] <compengi> Wolf_Demon, hmm....
[10:33] <compengi> Wolf_Demon, can you try it on a different pc?
[10:34] <kidbuntu> erpo: and after that, i plugged the harddisk, and when i booted it up, the "HOME$.dmrc........." showed up after typing my username and password
[10:34] <Wolf_Demon> compengi, naw...all I have is that laptop and this one, and i'd rather not risk doing anything to this one
[10:35] <compengi> Wolf_Demon, if same problem occurs then maybe from the burned cd, if everything goes smooth then try downloading the previous version of ubuntu, dapper
[10:35] <compengi> Wolf_Demon, if you run it as live you aren't installing linux :)
[10:35] <Wolf_Demon> compengi, okay thanks
[10:35] <kidbuntu> how do i reduce the fonts of the subtitles when playing .mkv on VLC?
[10:35] <Calandrino> Hello I'm newbi ubuntu user, could some help me with fonts?
[10:36] <compengi> Wolf_Demon, it's just a live cd
[10:36] <compengi> Wolf_Demon, if you want to install it you need to click on the install icon
[10:36] <kidbuntu> how do i reduce the fonts of the subtitles when playing .mkv on VLC?
[10:37] <Wolf_Demon> compengi, ah....i see....would i be able to install it from the safe graphics mode??
[10:37] <erpo> kidbuntu: Have you googled it?
[10:37] <compengi> Wolf_Demon, i'd never tried
[10:37] <ubuntubeg> hi. please help. after apt-get upgrade on dapper yesterday may x server starts with just 640x480 resolution. is this a known bug?
[10:38] <Wolf_Demon> compengi, if this way doesn't work again i think i will try it that way...being that it's a very old computer
[10:38] <hagabaka> i can't believe i can't find a package for microdc2...
[10:38] <kyncani> ubuntubeg: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:38] <compengi> Wolf_Demon, good luck then
[10:42] <mbn_18> hello, how do i add ttf fonts in Ubuntu ?
[10:43] <vinboy> how do remove redundent dependencies?
[10:44] <mc__> mbn_18: vinboy please consider reading thishttp://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html  before asking questions:
[10:45] <un_operateur> !msttcorefonts | mbn_18
[10:45] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[10:45] <mbn_18> mc__, and why do you think i need to ? and why should i value your answer ?
[10:46] <ubuntubeg> thnx, my x is working fine again. does this happen with every update?
[10:46] <un_operateur> mbn_18, sudo aptitude install msttcorefonts
[10:46] <mbn_18> un_operateur, thanks
[10:46] <shake_a_tower> ubuntu rocks!!
[10:46] <mc__> mbn_18: because you replied this way to me instead of reading the link
[10:47] <shake_a_tower> Wallsplash: hi
[10:48] <cyphase> shake_a_tower: yes it does
[10:48] <Wallsplash> hey
[10:50] <mbn_18> mc__, the web is full of such papers. and im defenetly not going to read every one of them. IRC is ment for answering Q / sharing info
[10:50] <afflux> is it possible to mount in /etc/fstab via LABEL instead of UUID?
[10:50] <mbn_18> and yes, i searched the ubuntu forum.
[10:50] <afflux> okay, man fstab answered my question: it is
[10:51] <TIRC_3273> help
[10:51] <TIRC_3273> 6,10
[10:51] <compengi> !ask
[10:51] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:52] <TIRC_3273> i have installed wireless usb adapter
[10:52] <Wallsplash> shake_a_tower: what's up?
[10:52] <TIRC_3273> e i see all the network but i cant not connect to internet
[10:52] <mc__> mbn_18: alright my friend,but IRC is not for lazy people who do not want to figure out how things work on their on,would it really hurt you to try it yourself first?
[10:53] <TIRC_3273> i know this is a vcommin problem  whit 6.10
[10:53] <ubuntubeg> thx for your help. i begin to like ubuntu ;) bye
[10:53] <un_operateur> mbn_18, usually all you have to do is frame the right query on google and your answer is likely to be within the first five results returned
[10:54] <compengi> un_operateur, he's gone =/
[10:55] <mbn_18> mc__, I did. also imported ttf font to redhat few years ago ( abviously i forgot how ). but even though the RedHat way is not Ubuntu way. and i prefer the right way
[10:55] <mbn_18> by the way. it seems that its possible to use nautilus to add fonts by writing in the URL - fonts://
[10:56] <wtflol> when i instlal software from synaptic where does it go to?
[10:56] <compengi> un_operateur, oh i thought it was ubuntubeg whom you were referring to :)
[10:56] <un_operateur> compengi, you almost had me there for a moment :)
[10:57] <wtflol> when i instlal software from synaptic where does it go to? are my settings all stored in /home? can i have vmware running winxp access the same files as a real winxp?
[10:57] <compengi> lol
[10:58] <un_operateur> wtflol, errm, your linux settings are going to be useless to windows?? am i reading you right?
[10:58] <bean> hi. is there a way to see the programs that i recently installed via apt-get? is there a log file somewhere?
[10:58] <wtflol> un_operateur: hmm u mean for winxp?
[10:58] <un_operateur> wtflol, perhaps you meant sharing your documents and files with winxp?
[10:59] <wtflol> un_operateur: hmm u mean for winxp? i was thinking if i can install a software once in vmware then let the real winxp run it
[10:59] <un_operateur> bean, dpkg -l
[10:59] <bean> un_operateur, that shows the whole list
[10:59] <missing_> wftlol: i told you theres a ext2 driver for windows that writes and reads
[11:00] <bean> can i sort it by installation date?
[11:00] <un_operateur> wtflol, i suppose when you say "real winxp" you mean the other dual-booting  OS?
[11:00] <wtflol> yea the other OS
[11:00] <un_operateur> bean, errm, I'm not too sure
[11:01] <wtflol> if i were to use the ext2 droiver, shd i install the programs into ntfs partition or ext parition so both vvmware's windows and the real windows can run the program
[11:01] <kidbuntu> whats the meaning of "User's $HOME/.dmrc file is being ignored. This prevents the default session and language from being saved......."
[11:01] <wtflol> still ext partition?
[11:01] <Gosha> the install of Compress::Zlib says i need ICompress::raw:zlib ... but it doesn't say anything abou the site i read that i should install the first, that i should get the raw:Zlib one ... i should still get it, right?
[11:02] <un_operateur> wtflol, I dont think that's possible because vmware "partitions" are not real partitions, they are just files on the linux system
[11:02] <un_operateur> Gosha, is that Compress::Zlib the perl module?
[11:02] <compengi> wtflol, umm... it's impossible to run same programs on both os because linux don't support exe extension and neither do windows support linux's extensions
[11:03] <Gosha> hmm
[11:03] <Gosha> well, eh? XD
[11:03] <Gosha> it is a perl module, yes
[11:03] <wtflol> un_operateur: if i were to use ext2 driver for winxp, then can i install stuff into vmware's winxp's program file directory and have both real and virtual winxp access the same software? i wan both real and virtual to use the same software but dun wanna install twice
[11:03] <bean> i added an entry to fstab to mount this JFS partition for data that I intend to share with another linux. but it mounts to root ownership. how do i set it to automount to user ownership by default?
[11:03] <missing_> wtflol: yeah u can use a reparate program files directory but im afraid windows keeps your settings under the documents and settings so
[11:03] <Gosha> i'll just get it, i think
[11:04] <un_operateur> Gosha, I think you could do it like this -- sudo perl -mCPAN -e 'install "Compress:;Zlib"'
[11:04] <__charles> I need help configuring my resolution I have a 22" monitor that can go up to 1650x1050 i added "1650x1050" to the modes list in xorg.conf and reloaded gnome but it did not put the resolution in the gnome res selector how can i fix this?? it is my understanding that thats all i had to do to get it working
[11:04] <wtflol> oo settings is alright.. i just dun wanna install the fe gbs of software twice
[11:04] <Gosha> ... ?
[11:04] <Gosha> ":;" ?
[11:05] <un_operateur> Gosha, typo -- ::  :)
[11:05] <un_operateur> wtflol, no, you cant do that AFAIK
[11:05] <missing_> wtflol: programs like mirc and firefox and winrar dont have to be installed u can run the executible
[11:05] <wtflol> oo ... means i have to stick to portable version of the software
[11:05] <andrewm> hey guys, i was trying to change the gdm theme by using gdmsetup...but i broke gdm. An apt-get --reinstall install gdm and a dpkg --reconfigure gdm later and its still broken...
[11:06] <andrewm> can someone help me to debug it ?
[11:06] <andrewm> :)
[11:06] <missing_> wtflol: i have serveral diferent install of windows in my machine and only reinstall things like drivers and stuff that has to be registeres
[11:06] <un_operateur> andrewm, perhaps you meant to run this instead -- sudo dpkg-reconfigure --priority low gdm
[11:07] <wtflol> missing_: o yea i was wanting to do that, but sharing stuff bw virtual windows and real windows
[11:07] <andrewm> un_operateur, ok thanks i will try that instead..what difference does the priority low make ?
[11:07] <bean> wtflol, check out portableapps.com
[11:07] <morgul`> Hi, since I upgraded my ubuntu 6.06 to 6.10, the system won't boot at all, anyone can help?
[11:07] <wtflol> ok thnx
[11:08] <un_operateur> andrewm, it gets the installer scripts to ask you _all_ the config questions
[11:08] <missing_> thanks for the portable links link
[11:08] <andrewm> un_operateur, ah..thanks :) gonna log out and try again. thx
[11:08] <bean> it's got lots of win32 progs that u can run w/o install, from a thumbdrive even
[11:08] <wtflol> hmm is there portable matlab lol
[11:08] <missing_> bean: its similar to my usb drive
[11:08] <bean> try octave
[11:09] <kidbuntu> how do i use the sudo chown <my username>/.dmrc
[11:09] <wtflol> oo is the syntax similar?
[11:09] <morgul`> when I try booting ubuntu It hangs
[11:09] <bean> wtflol, it's mostly the same
[11:09] <wtflol> ah ic thnx!
[11:09] <missing_> kidubuntu: althogh i encourage learning the console commands y dont know myslef anf i just use nautilus for that
[11:10] <un_operateur> kidbuntu, perhaps -- sudo chown username.username /home/username/.dmrc   -- where username is your username
[11:10] <bean> in fact it's designed 2 b 100% compatible
[11:10] <wtflol> is there a rss reader runningnon computer#1 that knows wat i've read on computer#2? i think maybe placing the settings file on a server?
[11:10] <bean> wtflol, missing_, what kind of stuff do u guys still need on windows?
[11:11] <bean> i haven't booted windows for more than a year now
[11:11] <afflux> if i download the 6.10 amd64 dvd, will i get both the graphic and the text mode installer? or do i need the alternate cd for text mode?
[11:11] <bean> and have u looked at wine?
[11:11] <un_operateur> wtflol, an RSS reader on your google homepage? :)
[11:11] <afflux> bean: my mustek scanner doesn't run under windows, thats the only thing ;)
[11:11] <missing_> nothing any more but i still have to defrag my ntfs untill i clear out the partition since i use ntfs3g
[11:11] <bean> afflux, u mean ubuntu?
[11:11] <afflux> ah, yeas
[11:11] <wtflol> un_operateur: i tried google reader.. like it but when the feeds get too wide i cant scroll horizontally
[11:11] <afflux> *yes
[11:11] <missing_> well guys wich me luck
[11:12] <missing_> im about to reboot into my new kernel
[11:12] <missing_> qui
[11:12] <un_operateur> wish you luck!! :)
[11:12] <afflux> gl & hf :D
[11:12] <wtflol> photoshop, illustrator, flash, maple, newsleecher
[11:12] <bean> btw did anyone answer my last question while i got d/ced?
[11:12] <bean> i added an entry to fstab to mount this JFS partition for data that I intend to share with another linux. but it mounts to root ownership. how do i set it to automount to user ownership by default?
[11:13] <morgul`> seems nobody wants to help me
[11:13] <compengi> wtflol, you need those on linux?
[11:13] <kidbuntu> User's $HOME/.dmrc file is being ignored. please help me with this
[11:13] <wtflol> yea
[11:13] <wtflol> tats why i was considering vmware
[11:13] <Wolf_Demon> aww :(
[11:13] <bean> wtflol, http://www.linuxeq.com/
[11:13] <Wolf_Demon> even the graphics safe mode i get the same result
[11:13] <bean> photoshop -> gimpshop
[11:13] <Wolf_Demon> blank screen with a non moving cursor
[11:13] <wtflol> nothing is close to photoshop :(
[11:14] <wtflol> dun really like gimp
[11:14] <bean> maple -> try wine or maxima
[11:14] <morgul`> is there any way I can repair my Ubuntu system?
[11:14] <un_operateur> bean, fstab entries are mounted as root -- but the file permissions still stay and therefore user's shouldnt see a difference
[11:14] <wtflol> ps cs3 is really cool!
[11:14] <jpjacobs> bean, there is a maple for linux
[11:14] <wtflol> let me have a look at maxima
[11:14] <bean> what's newsleecher? newsgroups downloader?
[11:14] <wtflol> yea
[11:14] <Toma-> anyone know of a command line avi to dvd program?
[11:15] <afflux> wtflol: and really expensive, isn't it?
[11:15] <un_operateur> kidbuntu, are you using "$USER" as-is in the chown/chmod commands??
[11:15] <bean> illustrator -> xara xtreme or inkscape
[11:15] <wtflol> yea lol
[11:15] <wtflol> hmm i haven try inkscape yet
[11:15] <bean> un_operateur, i can't create files in it though
[11:15] <bean> i think xara may b better
[11:15] <whyameye> Toma-: to convert the video file you could use tovid
[11:15] <wtflol> oo i'll try xara first
[11:15] <kidbuntu> un_operateur: i dont know, as i know i'm the only user on my ubuntu. and i'm the root
[11:15] <andrewm> un_operateur, hi..i tried running --priority low however it still hasn't worked...any other ideas ?
[11:15] <Toma-> whyameye: looking for a single app.
[11:15] <Toma-> even a gui
[11:15] <wtflol> is there a rss reader runningnon computer#1 that knows wat i've read on computer#2? i think maybe placing the settings file on a server?
[11:15] <nivekz> helllo, i am using edgy, any ATI X300/600 folks here? I get fglrxinfo showing "ATI Technologies Inc" correctly but glrxinfo showing "direct rendering: No". Is it OK?
[11:15] <afflux> wtflol: inkscape is for vectors
[11:16] <morgul`> anyone wants to help me?
[11:16] <bean> morgul`, u had trouble after upgrading?
[11:16] <whyameye> Toma-: a single app to do what? Convert the file or burn it?
[11:16] <un_operateur> andrewm, you can always purge-remove gdm and reinstall it -- sudo sh -c "aptitude purge gdm; aptitude install gdm"
[11:16] <wtflol> ok.. i need something to replace illustrator
[11:16] <morgul`> yes bean
[11:16] <wtflol> hopefully feels like illustrator heh
[11:16] <Toma-> whyameye: convert + burn :D
[11:16] <un_operateur> bean, what errors do you get, if any?
[11:16] <bean> u should have clean installed, i heard lots of upgrading problems
[11:16] <andrewm> un_operateur, thanks i will try that
[11:16] <bean> no i have never upgraded
[11:16] <morgul`> I upgraded and then rebooted, and since it won't boot at all
[11:16] <un_operateur> kidbuntu, what is the exact command you are using now?
[11:17] <bean> yeah i would recommend backing up your data and clean installing
[11:17] <whyameye> Toma-: I think it will take you two apps. You could probably find a way to call both apps from one command.
[11:17] <bean> wtflol, xara is vector too
[11:17] <Toma-> whyameye: ok thanks
[11:17] <kidbuntu> un_operateur: actually it anoys me to see this "$HOME/.dmrc file has incorrect permissions and is being
[11:17] <kidbuntu> ignored. ... file sould be " "owned by user and have 644 permissions. .."
[11:17] <wtflol> bean: ok i'll try tat
[11:17] <morgul`> yeah I tried that but the install system does'r want to install on my partitions :s
[11:17] <cstrippie> Hey all!  Was just playing around with Puppy & DSL, and don't really like either: has anyone started a super-compact version of Ubuntu (or Debian)?
[11:18] <bean> un_operateur, no problems, just that i can't create new files in the mounted directory
[11:18] <kidbuntu> un_operateur: do you know how to help me fix that?
[11:18] <levander> Is it possible that changing my theme in GNOME changed the font in emacs?  I'm looking at this really small font in emacs right now.
[11:18] <bean> un_operateur, cos it belongs 2 root
[11:18] <levander> That wasn't here last time I used it.
[11:18] <un_operateur> kidbuntu, at the login screen press CTRL+ALT+F1 -- login there as yourself -- and type this command out -- sudo chmod 644 /home/username/.dmrc
[11:19] <Hmg4> Is there a file name conversion tool like Convmv for Windows?
[11:19] <jpjacobs> cstrippie, not really yet, but we're working on it. but in the mean time, you can take a look at featherlinux
[11:19] <missing_> go to the windows channel they might know
[11:20] <bean> wtflol, btw gimpshop is gimp imitating the photoshop interface
[11:20] <jpjacobs> Hmg4, yes: convmv ;)
[11:20] <kidbuntu> uhm what do i press again at the login screen
[11:20] <un_operateur> bean, well. errm, have you tried modifying the permissions on the mount-point itself ??
[11:20] <cstrippie> jpjacobs - will do, and thank you.
[11:20] <kidbuntu> un_operateur: what do i press again?
[11:20] <levander> Has anyone else noticed that every time they look for the least little program to do something a little obscure (e.g., not web browsing, programming, or reading mail, or the gimp...) an application exists for KDE, but not for gnome?
[11:20] <wtflol> bean: tried gimpshop before.. they had problems with psd and layers
[11:20] <bean> un_operateur, the mountpoint is a directory in my /home/user
[11:20] <wtflol> some wierd stuff
[11:20] <un_operateur> kidbuntu,  copy and paste this somewhere where you have a copy -- press CTRL+ALT+F1 -- login there as yourself -- and type this command out -- sudo chmod 644 /home/username/.dmrc
[11:20] <bean> un_operateur, therefore user owns it
[11:20] <Hmg4> jpiccolo, How do i get it to work with Windows? Im trying to rsync my win, mac, linux computers and i like to use "" in file names
[11:21] <bean> un_operateur, but once the jfs partition is mounted, it's owned by root
[11:21] <jpjacobs> Hmg4, right, you mean you want it for windows... then i don't know
[11:21] <un_operateur> bean, well, on the other linux system, did another non-root user have read-write access to it?
[11:21] <stjepan> I have a bunch of images. How to make a video of them?
[11:21] <bean> un_operateur, i haven't installed the other system yet
[11:22] <bean> un_operateur, just preparing for data sharing
[11:22] <un_operateur> bean, you said you imported this HDD from another system, right?
[11:22] <bean> wtflol, when did u try that?
[11:22] <bean> un_operateur, no i just created this partition
[11:22] <bean> so far everything done in edgy
[11:22] <Hmg4> jpjacobs, Yepp :/ Because i use it in script after rsync to get the chars to show "" correct
[11:23] <un_operateur> bean, well, in that case, just get root to give permissions to that volume  :)
[11:23] <bean> how?
[11:23] <kidbuntu> un_operateur: uhm, theres no luck of ctrl+alt+f1
[11:23] <jpjacobs> Hmg4, there is perl for windows. maybe you can write something that does about the same
[11:23] <un_operateur> bean, at a terminal -- sudo chmod -R $USER.$USER /home/user/mountpoint
[11:23] <missing_> yay the kernel was a sucess
[11:23] <un_operateur> bean, oops..
[11:24] <bean> ?
[11:24] <un_operateur> bean,  sudo chown -R $USER.$USER /home/user/mountpoint
[11:24] <bean> hmm
[11:25] <un_operateur> bean, better yet  --  sudo chown -R $USER.$USER /home/$USER/mountpoint
[11:25] <bean> ok
[11:25] <bean> no need for -R
[11:25] <bean> it's got no files yet
[11:25] <bean> :P
[11:25] <bean> but this is silly
[11:26] <bean> the directory was originally $USER's
[11:26] <un_operateur> bean, errm, the mount-point may be user's but is the volume?? :)
[11:26] <bean> it's just that after mounting the partition it belongs to root
[11:26] <bean> hmm
[11:26] <Hmg4> jpjacobs, Yeah. Was hoping not to. Thanks anyway
[11:26] <bean> so the partition belongs 2 root huh
[11:27] <un_operateur> bean, yes, 3v3rythings R b3longs to r00t :)
[11:27] <un_operateur> !l337
[11:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about l337 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:28] <kidbuntu> un_operateur: nothing happened when i pressed ctrl+alt+f1
[11:28] <bean> !31337
[11:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 31337 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:28] <mr_blue> \quit
[11:28] <bean> !l33t
[11:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about l33t - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:28] <bean> ubotu is so n00b
[11:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is so n00b - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:29] <un_operateur> kidbuntu, maybe CTRL+ALT+F2 (or anyone of the other function keys) ??
[11:29] <tortho> Is there a way to downgrade all packages to the latest stable from Ubuntu... I have used some other repos and it is no success....
[11:31] <kidbuntu> un_entrepeur:its still the same
[11:31] <UbuntuSer> Is there anyone knows how to make a webcam works?..
[11:31] <un_operateur> kidbuntu, you trying this at the logon screen right?
[11:31] <kidbuntu> un_entrepeur:its still the sameun_operateur: yes
[11:31] <un_operateur> !webcam | UbuntuSer
[11:31] <kidbuntu> un_operateur:its still the sameun_operateur: yes
[11:31] <ubotu> UbuntuSer: webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[11:32] <compengi> UbuntuSer, where do you want to use it
[11:32] <UbuntuSer> on the Ubuntu ver 5.10
[11:32] <UbuntuSer> ive done using easycam and camorama but...then it freezes
[11:32] <un_operateur> kidbuntu, press it a couple of times, it must work -- CTRL+ALT+F1 (all at the very same time)
[11:33] <kidbuntu> un_operateur: does that really work on edgy?
[11:33] <un_operateur> kidbuntu, it works on every linux system out there
[11:34] <kidbuntu> un_operateur: doing ctrl+alt+f1 just shows a tool tip "Answer the following questions........"
[11:34] <ken> Help: I want to 'cleanly' unmount all my HDDs partitions, when i shut-down ubuntu, as the Windows fs-driver.org's driver needs a partition to be cleanly unmounted to read/write to it. SO how do i do it, when shutting down ubuntu, and why does ubuntu not do that by default?
[11:35] <un_operateur> kidbuntu, ok, well, at the logon screen, click session, change to a failsafe session and try again
[11:35] <ken> un_operateur: he left
[11:36] <un_operateur> bahh
[11:36] <bean> wtflol, 'apt-cache search usenet | grep binar'
[11:37] <ken> Can someone please help me?
[11:38] <un_operateur> ken, errm, never heard of fs-driver.org  -- maybe you'd like to try out ntfs-3g
[11:38] <un_operateur> ?
[11:39] <ken> un_operateur: Atleast tell me how to cleanly unmount all the partitions when shutting down ubuntu? And why doesn't ubuntu do that by default
[11:40] <Lynoure> ken: it should do that by default, and for most, seems to.
[11:40] <un_operateur> ken, all mounted volumes are unmounted when ubuntu shuts down, so this behaviour you see perplexes me
[11:41] <compengi> ken, you want to mount the ext2/ext3 partitions on windows/
[11:42] <ken> Lynoure: un_operateur: compengi: Tell me how to do that manually before shutting down to ensure that they are not 'uncleanly' unmounted by Ubuntu
[11:42] <kidbuntu> when using playing .mkv on VLC, the subtitle fonts is too large, how i reduce its size?
[11:42] <kidbuntu> when playing .mkv on VLC, the subtitle fonts is too large, how i reduce its size?
[11:43] <curs0r> http://files.filefront.com/TransparencyDemoavi/;6422113;;/fileinfo.html
[11:43] <flugheim> anyone who knows why i cant install vmware? http://flug.20web.net/linux/vmware.txt
[11:43] <un_operateur> ken, why not tell us what errors/misbehaviours you are experiencing -- thats the problem you need to be addressing, not working around it
[11:44] <Zaggynl> Who can help me with this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1931764 ?
[11:44] <Gaco> hola
[11:44] <compengi> ken, when you shut down your ubuntu how can your partitions be still mounted
[11:44] <kidbuntu> !mkv
[11:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:44] <Gaco> !paste
[11:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:44] <compengi> ken, it's not logical
[11:45] <mojojojo__> hi! my ubuntu linux uses ~20% of CPU usage just for xmms... It's performance is really lousy in general. Can you suggest sth?
[11:45] <ken> un_operateur: Since you have not heard about fs-driver.org's driver that allows one to read/write to EXT3/2 partition it would be difficult anyways here it is, in windows i need that driver to see my ubuntu partitions. But that driver requires that all these partitions are cleanly unmounted to be usable. There's also a tool called mountdiag.exe, which i downloaded specifically for this purpose. When i ran it for my particular partition it told me it wasnot cleanly
[11:46] <ken> compengi: I am not saying it is NOT unounted, i am saying that it is uncleanly unmounted, and please read my above post too
[11:46] <TheGateKeeper> Zaggynl, may not solve the problem, but can't you move the files from your usb stick onto your hdd & then process them?
[11:46] <compengi> ken, http://www.filewatcher.com/m/Ext2IFS_1_10b.exe.471040.0.0.html download it i had tried it out and it was working fine
[11:46] <un_operateur> ken, if the volumes were uncleanly unmounted, the next time you boot linux, you should get a warning about this? is this the case?
[11:47] <masuran> Hi, can anyone give me a hand with a strange network problem?
[11:47] <Zaggynl> TheGateKeeper, eh no, it's a bit
[11:47] <compengi> !ask > masuran
[11:47] <richard__> Im struggling to get my winmodem up and running. Ive got the linuxant drivers installed, and they work. But they wont initialize at boot time.
[11:47] <un_operateur> ken, just to check whether that is indeed the case and whether your fs-driver.org utility is just giving you a bogus warning
[11:48] <richard__> If I rerun hsfconfig then they will work untill I reboot
[11:48] <ken> un_operateur: No thats not the case, i dont get any errors
[11:48] <ken> compengi: I already have that driver
[11:48] <jhaig> Anyone know how to merge postscript or pdf files?  Specifically, I want to take a single page document and make a new file with the same page 4 times, so that I can use "psnup -4" on it.
[11:48] <richard__> how do I get to just init properly? Im getting a permission denied error when I run modprobe /dev/ttySHSF
[11:48] <kidbuntu> when playing .mkv on VLC, the subtitle fonts is too large, how i reduce its size?
[11:48] <mojojojo__> un_operateur, I'm still finghting with the performance :(
[11:48] <Heroin> i accidently screwed up when i was making an eggbot so now when i start ./eggdrop it starts eggdrop+conf1 however if u want to load conf2 u need 2 enter ./eggdrop conf2 but then i starts the egg w. conf1 becuse those are linked or something, howto fix?
[11:48] <compengi> un_operateur, i gave him a good ext2/ext3 driver for windows that i used it without any problems
[11:49] <compengi> ken, then it should work fine
[11:49] <masuran> I have a iBook G4 running Xubuntu (but the problem is basic Linux stuff) and it succesfully scans for my wireless network and connects. The problem is that it doesn't connect outside my network. I can ping all computers in my network but not the router or outside the network. Does anyone have an idea what could be causing this?
[11:49] <ken> compengi: that is the same one i use, and its official website is fs-driver.org
[11:49] <lupine_85> masuran: sudo route add default gw <router IP here>
[11:50] <lupine_85> erm. assuming your network is sane.
[11:50] <un_operateur> ken, well, at this point I can only think that fs-driver.org is lying to you .. it's not linux misbehaving because if any volumes were unmounted wrong, the next time you boot up linux you are warned
[11:50] <ken> compengi: un_operateur: If i switch of my PC when ubuntu is running, than would you say that would be a unclean unmount?
[11:50] <masuran> lupine_85, that's all ok. The route to the default gw exists. As far as I can tell everything with the routes are OK.
[11:50] <Lynoure> ken: (just to check) and do you actually shut down ubuntu and not just hibernate it? Latter will cause problems.
[11:50] <un_operateur> ken, maybe an fsck on the volumes might rule out problems with them
[11:51] <ken> Lynoure: nice point, but i dont hibernate i shut it down
[11:51] <un_operateur> mojojojo__, we told you what you needed last night -- a better processor :)
[11:51] <compengi_> ken, i can say that it sometimes doesn't mount the ext partition when sometimes you start the windows but after the reboot it should work fine, maybe because the driver is still beta
[11:51] <lupine_85> masuran: if you're set up as a managed WiFi, if you can't ping the router then you shouldn't be able to ping anything else. You're not accidentally Ad-Hoc are you?
[11:51] <kane77> hi
[11:52] <ken> compengi: Lynoure: un_operateur: How do i do a unclean unmount? (makes sense, please re-read it)
[11:52] <un_operateur> ken, errm, you pull the plug out from underneath you? :)
[11:52] <kane77> are there any casino games?? (best would be poker + blackjack...) ...possibly playable online??
[11:52] <missing_> can someone help me with a make error?
[11:52] <ken> un_operateur: no way through the terminal or something?
[11:53] <mojojojo__> un_operateur, aww c'mon :D... in good old days liunux used to boast of its superiority in hardware requirements over Windows.. and now? Now it's many times slower
[11:53] <kane77> missing_, what's the problem?
[11:53] <masuran> lupine_85, can you tell me what Ad-Hoc is? My networking skills don't go much above basic level ;-) I can ping other computers but not my router or outside the network
[11:53] <compengi_> ken, i never had a problem with it when i had both os installed
[11:53] <lupine_85> ken: sudo umount /path/to/mountpoint
[11:53] <eclair> what does it mean when a few packages are held back during an upgrade?
[11:53] <missing_> well im trying to make my fglrx drivers but i get this config error
[11:54] <lupine_85> masuran: a type of p2p networking that doesn't rely on you having a router.  "iwconfig" in a terminal will tell you if you're running Managed or Ad-Hoc
[11:54] <missing_> !pastebin
[11:54] <un_operateur> mojojojo__, in the good old days, linux was customized for the hardware it would run on -- it wasnt a one-size-fits-all thingy back then :)
[11:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:54] <ctothej> how do i install linux header files?
[11:54] <ctothej> linux kernel header files that is
[11:54] <missing_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38868/
[11:54] <lupine_85> if you're Managed, then there's a problem with the router - preumably it's set up to not respond to pings (ICMP echoes), and also not set up to give /your/ wireless pc internet access
[11:54] <missing_> and it wont make my fglrx module for my kernel
[11:55] <un_operateur> ctothej, sudo aptitude install linux-headers
[11:55] <lupine_85> ctothej: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[11:55] <missing_> thank u kane
[11:55] <masuran> lupine_85, mode: managed according to iwconfig
[11:55] <richard__> does anyone know how to get the linuxant modem drivers to run at boot time. Im getting a permission denied creating the dev nodes
[11:55] <mojojojo__> un_operateur, good point :)... now, all I have to do now is understand all those clever options for kernel compilation
[11:55] <lupine_85> missing_: are you running a custom kernel?
[11:56] <missing_> yes a .19 vanilla kernel
[11:56] <lupine_85> thought so :p
[11:56] <missing_> stipped to the bone
[11:56] <kane77> ctothej, sudo apt-get install  linux-headers-2.6.15-27 (if you are running specific architecture then for example linux-headers-2.6.15-27-amd64)
[11:56] <ken> lupine_85:l compengi: un_operateur: Ok now the second problem, when ubuntu boots it is really slow. I run edgy. In the first boot screen after GRUB, the orange bar fills up as ubuntu loads everything in the memory, when it is filled-up 1/4almost everything comes to a standstill, and i have to wait for 60-80seconds before it starts filling up again. I mean it remains stationary at that point for a long time, before (on edgy itself) this was not something that used 
[11:56] <ctothej> kane77, lupine, i get "E: Couldn't find package linux-2.6.15-25-amd64-generic"
[11:57] <ken> lupine_85: compengi: un_operateur: What could be wrong?
[11:57] <lupine_85> missing_: t'is peculiar, as the header files should be there. Maybe you need to include the subdir /usr/src/blah/linux ? (or include)
[11:57] <missing_> tothej: no u probably want kernel headers for 2.6.17 generic
[11:58] <kane77> ctothej, its linux-headers-
[11:58] <lupine_85> 26.15* is dapper
[11:58] <lupine_85> erm, 2.6.15*
[11:58] <un_operateur> ken, it's quite likely you have something seriously wrong -- I think, there's an option to hide the splash screen when ubuntu starts up .. so you can see if any messages are being spit out to the screen
[11:58] <kane77> ctothej, but the problem may be you dont have it in repos...
[11:58] <ken> lupine_85: compengi: No response?
[11:58] <ctothej> yeah, i updated for edgy
[11:58] <missing_> ohh i c maybe let me check to make sure the kernel headers are installed
[11:59] <lupine_85> nah, the problem is linux-2.6.15-25-amd64-generic should be linux-headers-2.6.15-25-amd64-generic
[11:59] <FallenHi1okiri> hi, i just installed edgy. after my first login i used update-manager to update my system. it crashed. reboot - now it suggests to run dkpg --configure -a. while processing libgnomevfs it crashes again and again.
[11:59] <un_operateur> mojojojo__,  perhaps something like this -- https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KernelCustomBuild
[11:59] <lupine_85> ken: try booting your kernel from grub without the splash and quiet options, and see where it's hanging
[12:00] <ken> un_operateur: lupine_85: compengi: Tell me what to do so as to not see the ubuntu splash screen, and see all those things happening. That is i want to disable the quiet option, so that i see that now its mounting this...now it is starting this service...etc. How do i di that?
[12:00] <missing_> would a kernel boot if theres no headers installed?
[12:00] <frogzoo> missing_: sure
[12:00] <lupine_85> ken: in grub. Hit "e" to edit a menu item, then e again to edit the kernel line; delete everything after the 'ro'
[12:00] <barata> hallo ,, anybody with 915resolution can run beryl?
[12:01] <lupine_85> missing_: headers are for compile-time
[12:01] <barata> or not?
[12:01] <missing_> than it could be negligence on my part
[12:01] <ctothej> what is the latest 2.6.17 version?
[12:01] <missing_> i reinstalled them just in case
[12:01] <lupine_85> ctothej: that's edgy :p
[12:01] <eclair> i get disconnected from the internet quickly
[12:01] <un_operateur> ken, I think you click a button/link on the splash screen to hide it -- i dont really know, i always boot with no splash screen
[12:01] <frogzoo> ctothej: I have 10-generic
[12:01] <eclair> i think something went wrong when i tried to upgrade to edgy
[12:01] <ctothej> frogzoo, cool thankx
[12:01] <j0sh0> hi, could someone please help me with a wireless problem on 6.06LTS?
[12:01] <ken> lupine_85: I keep ro, and backspace everything 'after' the letters ro, right? Is this a potentially system wrecking step if done wrong? :(
[12:02] <frogzoo> eclair: it happens, clean install is usually cleanest
[12:02] <missing_> nope thats not it
[12:02] <lupine_85> ken: nah, it'll be fine
[12:02] <lupine_85> hard to kill anything with boot-time options
[12:02] <lupine_85> well, unless you're trying to kill something
[12:02] <ctothej> now i get "E: Couldn't find package linux-2.6.17-10-amd64-generic"
[12:03] <ken> lupine_85: OK so this is it, when i see GRUB, i select the first option, hit e-e, than backspace everything after ro, right? This is so fidgety
[12:03] <lupine_85> ctothej: that's because you're on dapper, right?
[12:03] <lupine_85> ken: e, scroll down to the line beginning kernel=, e again, then delete
[12:03] <Zaggynl> How to give a user rights on an automatically mounted NTFS usb volume?
[12:03] <ctothej> lupine, I followed update instructions to upgrade to edgy
[12:03] <ken> lupine85: forgzoo: Do you know of some GUI way?
[12:03] <lupine_85> ken: grub *is* GUI
[12:04] <ken> lupine_85: ok
[12:04] <lupine_85> ctothej: type uname -a and give me the output...
[12:05] <ken> lupine_85: After i find a line kernel=...., i hit 'e' and i delete everything after the letters ro? DO i always need to fear breaking my system? ;-)
[12:05] <lupine_85> ken: you're getting it. Don't worry, nothing will break - this is a one-time change
[12:05] <lupine_85> it'll go back to 'normal' after this boot
[12:05] <ctothej> lupine_85, Linux ... 2.6.15-25-amd64-generic #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Jun 14 ... x86_64 GNU/Linux
[12:06] <lupine_85> ctothej: you're still running the Dapper kernel, so if you have updated to edgy you haven't rebooted yet....
[12:06] <ken> lupine_85: compengi: un_operateur: I thank you profusely for helping me. Have a good day, and happy UBUNT-ing!
[12:06] <lupine_85> the edgy kernel is called 2.6.17-10-generic , btw -not -amd64-generic
[12:06] <lupine_85> ken: you too :)
[12:07] <compengi> ken, lol vise versa
[12:07] <ctothej> hmm, ive rebooted, and X failed to start so I was trying to reinstall fglrx ati drivers. thought the update process worked... maybe ill go with a full reinstall
[12:07] <un_operateur> ken, :)
[12:07] <Alzi2> Hey. I don't know where to ask this, so i'll ask this in all channels: I don't like GNOME anymore, it's too slow and too "simple", and it feels too weird to control. I want to install KDE but i don't want to lose any data I have on my pc, but i want the menu's to be clean from GNOME entries. Maybe GNOME removed or something. So, my question is, how to install KDE while preserving data and keeping the menu tidy, and removing GNOME?
[12:08] <lupine_85> ctothej: just sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop should fix it
[12:08] <ken> lupine_85: compengi: un_operateur: And while i am editing my GRUB, please popularise the word 'Happy UBUNT-ing'. Good bye! ;-)
[12:08] <un_operateur> Alzi2, sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop  -- ought to install KDE for you
[12:08] <lupine_85> Alzi2: there's "a website" that lists all the packages you need to remove from a Ubuntu system to completely get rid of gnome
[12:08] <lupine_85> personally, I'd rip out...
[12:08] <lupine_85> !info libgnome2-0
[12:08] <ubotu> libgnome2-0: The GNOME 2 library - runtime files. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.0-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 107 kB, installed size 264 kB
[12:09] <lupine_85> those
[12:09] <un_operateur> lupine_85, i think he should wait till he has KDE up and running before doing that, no? :)
[12:09] <lupine_85> un_operateur: well, of course :)
[12:09] <lupine_85> although unless s/he killed X, it wouldn't matter too much
[12:10] <ctothej> lupine_85, i get "kubuntu-desktop is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, blah blah"
[12:10] <lupine_85> ctothej: is your sources.list sane?
[12:10] <ctothej> i changed sources.list by replacing all instances of dapper with edgy
[12:11] <ctothej> for the upgrade
[12:11] <lupine_85> yes, but is it /sane/?
[12:11] <lupine_85> you might as well try another dist-upgrade
[12:12] <rusher> how do you not startup in X?
[12:12] <rusher> lol
[12:12] <ctothej> lupine_85, doing that now
[12:12] <tuning13> hola
[12:12] <Hexidigital> Alzi2::  to install kde, sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[12:12] <un_operateur> rusher, disable the gdm/kde daemons
[12:12] <rusher> how
[12:12] <tuning13> hola
[12:13] <Zaggynl> Anyone uses mpd and usb devices in here?
[12:13] <Hexidigital> Alzi2::  to remove gnome, google for "pure kubuntu" and look for a link called psychocats. he has a good tutorial
[12:13] <lupine_85> sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop
[12:13] <un_operateur> rusher, errm, sudo update-rc.d gdm remove
[12:13] <Hexidigital> rusher::  update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[12:13] <tuning13> hola me yamo antonio
[12:13] <Hexidigital> you have to -force it
[12:14] <DjViper> hi, how do I change mousepointer? and where can I dl new?
[12:14] <rusher> can you do it manually
[12:15] <lupine_85> rusher: [11:13]  <lupine_85> sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop
[12:15] <lupine_85> then to start it again, startx ot /etc/init.d/?dm start
[12:15] <lupine_85> add sudo as appropriate
[12:15] <Hexidigital> rusher::  the command i gave you will disable x at boot permanently
[12:15] <enzo__> ciao mi chiamo enzo e saluto tutti- happy xmas
[12:16] <rusher> thankthank you
[12:17] <rusher> how do you add x back
[12:17] <rusher> i did the command you gave me
[12:17] <rusher> startx
[12:17] <rusher> ?
[12:17] <rusher> sudo update-rc.d gdm add ?
[12:17] <Hexidigital> rusher::  yes, startx will bring x back up temporarily
[12:18] <Hexidigital> rusher::  no
[12:18] <Hexidigital> rusher::  if in the future, you want x back at boot, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[12:18] <rusher> oh ok
[12:18] <rusher> easy as pie
[12:18] <Hexidigital> and almost as tasty
[12:19] <rusher> how do you tell if the users cron tab executed
[12:19] <DjViper> hehe
[12:20] <Mihai> Im looking for a monopoly type game in ubuntu?
[12:20] <rusher> there are some in synaptic
[12:20] <rusher> i beleive it is called aatlantic
[12:20] <Hexidigital> rusher::  do you have sendmail installed?  iirc, with sendmail installed, cronjobs run as root will be emailed to an alias user (usually the first username set up)
[12:20] <DarthLappy> atlantik?
[12:20] <rusher> im checking
[12:21] <rusher> ATLANTIK
[12:21] <Mihai> rusher:  :)
[12:21] <rusher> i should setup sendmail
[12:21] <rusher> lol
[12:23] <DjViper> how do I change mousepointer? and where can I dl new?
[12:24] <Hexidigital> DjViper::  what desktop environment? gnome or kde?
[12:24] <DjViper> Hexidigital: gnome, and I know HOW to change between the ones I have installed, I want to know how to add more etc.
[12:25] <rusher> anyone have problems with kmedia?
[12:25] <eugenics> Hello folks ;)
[12:25] <wahl> how to start the windows xp install fron ubuntu? it won't boot, and wine doesn't start the install, how to? :)
[12:25] <compengi> hi
[12:25] <Hexidigital> DjViper::  i'm pretty sure it's the same as installing a new desktop theme.. unfortunately that's as far as i can help, because i use KEP
[12:25] <Hexidigital> *KDE
[12:25] <rusher> you need qemu
[12:26] <DjViper> Hexidigital: okay
[12:26] <rusher> wahl download qemu
[12:26] <rusher> i instaleld xp on my ubuntu box that way
[12:26] <Hexidigital> !vmware | wahl
[12:26] <ubotu> wahl: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). Instructions for VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[12:26] <compengi> wahl, why it doesn't boot?
[12:27] <Hexidigital> DjViper::  try here -- www.gnome-look.org
[12:27] <wahl> i don't know, i think i burnt it wrong, but the install work i know it, ( tested it on my windows, befor i installed linux)
[12:27] <rusher> my windows does not work because it can not verify the activation
[12:27] <Valmarko> Can I install fluxbox in Ubuntu?
[12:27] <rusher> yes
[12:27] <un_operateur> Valmarko, sure
[12:27] <mojojojo__> un_operateur, I found interesting site for explanation of kernel options http://tlug.up.ac.za/old/guides/lkcg/lkcg_config.html
[12:27] <rusher> sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[12:27] <DjViper> Hexidigital: thanks
[12:27] <Valmarko> tanks
[12:28] <wahl> rusher : witch of al these qemu
[12:28] <wahl> ?
[12:28] <compengi> btw wahl if you want to install 2 os on same pc and on different partitions then you should install windows then ubuntu because windows kills ubuntu start up
[12:29] <wahl> i only want windows now
[12:29] <compengi> wahl, then you need to make the cd boot from the start up
[12:30] <wahl> damn:S
[12:30] <wahl> then i need a new cd:S
[12:30] <wahl> rusher: help me?
[12:30] <wahl> xD
[12:31] <rusher> download all the qemu
[12:31] <dromer> hi, is there a channel on flash9 development? I'm having trouble running a certain youtube video and I was wondering if it could be flash9-beta related
[12:31] <wahl> accelerator to?
[12:31] <rusher> yes
[12:32] <wahl> kaj
[12:32] <Onore_e_Gloria> hi
[12:32] <compengi> dromer, your answer is right there http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[12:33] <wahl> rusher: i don't have athority:S
[12:33] <Zaggynl> Anyone uses mpd in here?
[12:34] <compengi> dromer, i think it's the same as previous link http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[12:34] <compengi> dromer, just to be on the safe side
[12:34] <rusher> rin it as root
[12:35] <dromer> compengi: I'm not sure what you mean compengi, if it's more of a bug-report issue ..
[12:35] <un_operateur> dromer, flash9 is not open-source - why'd you expect a dev-channel to exist? :)
[12:35] <dromer> compengi: I'm dapper btw
[12:36] <dromer> un_operateur: hmm, true, but, you know, somebody is working on it :P
[12:36] <un_operateur> dromer, only adobe/macromedia are :)
[12:36] <wahl> omg, this is wierd
[12:38] <dromer> btw, this doesn't work: $ sudo update-flashplugin
[12:38] <dromer> sudo: update-flashplugin: command not found
[12:38] <extern> hey, which IDE would you suggest for C++ development? I would like it to have something similar to microsofts' intelllisense
[12:38] <dromer> from: $ sudo update-flashplugin
[12:38] <dromer> sudo: update-flashplugin: command not found
[12:38] <dromer> woeps
[12:38] <dromer> $ sudo update-flashplugin
[12:38] <dromer> my bad
[12:38] <dromer> bad copy/paste on synergy
[12:39] <eugenics> Anyone from India around?
[12:40] <un_operateur> extern, I think the best one might be anjuta
[12:41] <Zaggynl> Anyone knows howto give a user rights to read from an automatically mounted NTFS usb volume?
[12:41] <raf256> my black friend told me that ubuntu if NOT an african word connected to ability of configuring anything, is he telling the truth?
[12:41] <wahl> rusher: i can't ectract them, i don't have athority to do it:S
[12:42] <un_operateur> raf256, ubuntu is a zulu word that loosely relates to "being humane"/humanity
[12:42] <extern> I'll take a look at it
[12:42] <jatt> raf256: no idea, but it seems you are implying that because your friend is black, he should know about african words. That doesn't make sense to me.
[12:42] <raf256> oh shit its rob
[12:42] <dint> Hi. I would like hear sound from application run under Wine. I try to use winecfg, but it give me error "ALSA lib seq_hw.c:456:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory". What is Alsa?
[12:43] <eugenics> would vmware work?
[12:43] <flossgeek> Alsa is the soundarchitecture
[12:43] <compengi> raf256, if he is black this doesn't mean he knows african ;)
[12:43] <rob> don't feed the troll :D
[12:43] <un_operateur> compengi, african isnt a language :)
[12:43] <raf256> its a tarp
[12:44] <compengi> un_operateur, i mean know african words
[12:45] <raf256> compengi: yes that was my point, so I told him "niga pleas, you dont know all the dialects"
[12:45] <un_operateur> compengi, you mean "know zulu words" .. there are over 50 main languages spoken in all of africa
[12:45] <raf256> and he responed that Im white and nerdy :(
[12:45] <dint> What can I do to make the sound works? I check on synaptic Pacakage manager, Alsa-base is installed.
[12:46] <jatt> raf256: (OT: are you from poland?)
[12:46] <petros> hi, how can i deactivate the shutdown by pressing the power button on the pc?
[12:46] <compengi> un_operateur, i didn't specify any language cause i don't know in what language is word ubuntu so i just said african, in which i meant but african word :)
[12:47] <raf256> jatt: yes, poland - the communistic kingdom in cener of europe
[12:47] <jatt> raf256: that's fine
[12:47] <compengi> i meant by*
[12:47] <warkruid> dint: does sound work under ubuntu? Not under wine i mean
[12:47] <raf256> jatt: you might be ammused by the fact that our goverment want to make Jesus the King of Poland. and that one is for real (check internet)
[12:47] <un_operateur> compengi, that's like defining hello to be an european word  :) which is ludicrous
[12:47] <dint> warkruid: Yes, it work
[12:48] <flossgeek> dint: do u have no sound what so ever
[12:48] <jatt> raf256: I am not amused by that. In fact I find your trolling boring. So I will ignore you now.
[12:49] <Juhaz> well, he's already gagged, don't bother
[12:49] <fransth> hi all
[12:49] <jatt> oh, thanks
[12:49] <Juhaz> oh, and kicked and banned
[12:49] <fransth> anyone know to get the intel 915GM driver for my notebook?
[12:49] <flossgeek> fransth:should be working ou tof the box
[12:49] <warkruid> dint: then wine "writes" to the wrong sound device. do not know which config file you must change. I'll try to find out
[12:49] <skenmy> Hi all. I just installed Ubuntu Edgy, but i'm having trouble getting my sound card to work. lspci shows it but aplay -l does not. alsamixer also does not "see" the card. It is an Audigy 2 ZS Platinum, and any help in getting it working would be much appreciated :)
[12:49] <flossgeek> fransth: are you on dapper or edgy
[12:50] <un_operateur> skenmy, asoundconf --help
[12:50] <blackelf> Juhaz: actually I finded his nonsense rambling amusing
[12:50] <flossgeek> Skenmy:strange you should have no probs with that card
[12:50] <skenmy> I've never had problems before.
[12:51] <skenmy> un_operateur: asoundconf list does not display the card either.
[12:51] <dint> warkruid: I hear nothing from any application under wine. I read that I need to configure it using winecfg, but if I press the tab "Audio", the winecfg window is close with error, ALSA lib seq_hw.c:456:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory. Link points to "/tmp/ksocket-userx". can't create mcop directory.
[12:51] <flossgeek> skenmy got o System>PreferencesSound and make sure your default sound card is Audigu 2 ZS
[12:51] <skenmy> It isn't listed there.
[12:51] <POVaddct> fransth: intel 915gm runs with the i810 driver from xorg
[12:51] <un_operateur> skenmy, it probably means you need to install the driver for the card manually
[12:52] <dint> flossgeek: yes, no sound under wine. :(
[12:52] <skenmy> What confuses me even more is that the logon sounds work fine.
[12:52] <flossgeek> skenmy: so it is working, go to the sound preferences
[12:53] <skenmy> The card is not listed in sound preferences
[12:53] <obstfliege> moinsen
[12:53] <blackelf> rob: why you banned the poor guy?
[12:53] <POVaddct> hi obstfliege
[12:53] <skenmy> I see a USB Device (my voip phone) and my onboard audio
[12:53] <fransth> POVaddct, i try it, but the problem now, Ubuntu installer dont recognizae it, xorg thing it is intel 915, but GM is not 915
[12:54] <rob> blackelf: do "/lastlog raf256" and find out :D
[12:54] <flossgeek> skenmy: in Device Manager is the sound card detected
[12:54] <blackelf> rob: its a trap
[12:54] <POVaddct> fransth: then choose vesa for the moment and change to i810 manually later on
[12:54] <obstfliege> POVaddct, hi
[12:54] <fransth> i try it, but still not working :(
[12:54] <skenmy> I do see it listed
[12:54] <warkruid> dint: in command shell can you start "alsamixer" or does that bomb also?
[12:54] <fransth> POVaddct, mm so the type i810
[12:55] <dint> warkruid: It run perfectly
[12:55] <POVaddct> fransth: strange. i had no problems with i915gm at all
[12:55] <POVaddct> flossgeek: (in a ibm tp x41 notebook)
[12:55] <fransth> POVaddct, can give me your steps there?
[12:55] <fransth> POVaddct, or your xorg.conf may be :P
[12:55] <POVaddct> fransth: i didnt had to do anything
[12:55] <warkruid> dint: then it is definitly the wine config thats faulty.. Still looking..
[12:55] <POVaddct> fransth: i am not on ubuntu right now
[12:55] <skenmy> ah
[12:56] <skenmy> right - it seems to be appearing now
[12:56] <flossgeek> skenmy:what did u do?
[12:56] <skenmy> under the name "HDA ULI M5461"
[12:56] <skenmy> I have no idea. Haven't changed anything
[12:56] <dint> warkruid: okey, thanks.
[12:56] <skenmy> Still no sound though.
[12:56] <mike-ekim> i was having an error with zimbra starting up Tomcat
[12:56] <mike-ekim> telling me JRE_HOME is not defined
[12:56] <POVaddct> fransth: is your ubuntu machine connected to the internet directly? (without a NAT router)
[12:56] <mike-ekim> and I dont think java is installed in my system, can someone ehlpo
[12:56] <mike-ekim> help*
[12:57] <flossgeek> skenmy:open a terminal and type alsamixer and ensure your channel are up
[12:57] <blinx> where apt saves the information of the installed packages?
[12:57] <fransth> POVaddct, not connected
[12:57] <fransth> POVaddct,  what is NAT router anyway :P
[12:57] <POVaddct> fransth: hmm, so remote helping would have been easier
[12:57] <skenmy> It can't be my Audigy. alsamixer says the chip is a Realtek (which is my onboard audio)
[12:57] <skenmy> but channels are up
[12:58] <fransth> POVaddct, cannot, this is indonesia :P
[12:58] <POVaddct> fransth: a router doing network address translation (mostly masquerading)
[12:58] <flossgeek> skenmy: when you go to System>Pref>Sound you should be able to choose which sound device you want to take priority
[12:58] <fransth> POVaddct, cannot i think, the ISP make me under proxy
[12:58] <skenmy> Yes - My card is *not* listed there.
[12:58] <mojojojo__> rob well if you kicked raf256 out for statement about Jesus and making him king of Poland... well, it's not trolling, it's the fact :).. but anyway, this is not a channel for such discussion
[12:58] <POVaddct> fransth: but you do have internet connection, or how do you irc here?
[12:59] <flossgeek> skenmy: it isnt detected then
[12:59] <rob> sigh.. mojojojo__ right, so please don't bring it up here, pm me instead if you have a problem
[12:59] <skenmy> lspci shows the card exists
[12:59] <skenmy> Device Manager shows the card
[12:59] <flossgeek> skenmy: stange i have similar card and mine is fine
[12:59] <mojojojo__> rob k
[12:59] <skenmy> I've never had issues before :P
[01:00] <skenmy> Hence why i'm so confused
[01:00] <fransth> POVaddct, i have internet connection, but you cannot access here, but i can go outside... you want to remote right
[01:00] <POVaddct> fransth: would be much easier
[01:01] <mike-ekim> does anyone klnow a good repository to download java jre
[01:01] <rob> !java
[01:01] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[01:01] <fransth> POVaddct, sorry cannot remote, because my ip under several level of router, and the ISP not allowd me to be part of global
[01:02] <warkruid>  dint: Do you have the OSS compatibility modules installed? OSS was the sound architecture that was used before ALSA.
[01:02] <POVaddct> fransth: hmm
[01:02] <flossgeek> skenmy: type this into terminal:cat /proc/asound/cards
[01:02] <POVaddct> fransth: in xorg.conf, the Section "Device" should contain Driver "i810"
[01:02] <benji> hello
[01:02] <dint> warkruid: I don't know.
[01:03] <warkruid> dint: My wine config defaults to OSS compatibility.
[01:03] <skenmy> "Command not found"
[01:03] <skenmy> apparently
[01:03] <dromer> this really is a debian-issue, but I'm getting this with setting up apache2-ssl: http://pastebin.com/845099 < crap
[01:03] <skenmy> oh hang on
[01:03] <skenmy> that was me being stupid :P
[01:04] <warkruid> dint: try searching for OSS in Synaptic
[01:04] <skenmy> 2 cards listed. Onboard audio and a USB Device
[01:04] <fransth> POVaddct, ok, i will try it, what is the different between 915 which in my xorg.conf and i810?
[01:04] <dint> warkruid: I've succesfully fix the error. I create a folder that needed to run winecfg. Thanks for help.
[01:04] <flossgeek> skenmy: we need to see why it isnt being detected
[01:04] <warkruid> dint: glad to hear it. No thnx needed.
[01:04] <skenmy> Okay
[01:04] <POVaddct> fransth: there is no specific 915 driver. i810 is a class driver that can handle i810, i815, i830, i845, i865, i915
[01:05] <fransth> ok
[01:05] <fransth> POVaddct, i will take a  look. update soon
[01:05] <fransth> POVaddct, thx my friend
[01:05] <POVaddct> k
[01:08] <skenmy> flossgeek: and...how would we do that?
[01:10] <Zaggynl> Can anyone help me with this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1931845 ?
[01:11] <F1Online> happy holidays :D
[01:11] <jengc0il> re
[01:11] <jengc0il> hi there
[01:11] <F1Online> hi
[01:11] <viller> I can't umount it says drive is busy?
[01:11] <flossgeek> skenmy: I am looking into this issue, but I think it would be best to post to the forums or mailing list for your issue than here
[01:12] <jengc0il> how to update package
[01:12] <jengc0il> ?
[01:12] <skenmy> flossgeek - okay thanks :)
[01:12] <wsk170> jengc0il:apt-get -h
[01:13] <F1Online> anyone knows how to get WLAN working with edgy 6.10
[01:13] <F1Online> i tried yesterday and some1 said to install network manager
[01:13] <viller> I'm trying to umount but it says drive is busy. I can't umount?
[01:13] <F1Online> i did that but can  seem to find it
[01:13] <flossgeek> skenmy: Cause you could switch back to dapper
[01:14] <Lynoure> viller: maybe some files from the drive are still in use, try   lsof | grep yourmountpoint
[01:14] <skenmy> This is a fresh install
[01:14] <strk> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on an old pentium system, pressing "Forward" at keyboard layout selection I have the "busy" cursor and it is taking a long time, but I don't see activity neither on the DVD reader, nor on the HDD led... is there a way to check wheter the process is stuck or this is normal procedure ?
[01:15] <jengc0il> wsk170: then after that
[01:15] <flossgeek> skenmy:Edgy is well er edgy
[01:15] <strk> This is "Dapper" (or Drapper?)
[01:15] <viller> lynoure: it gives me some kind of an error
[01:16] <Lynoure> viller: then what to do depends on the kind of error you got
[01:16] <viller> lsof: WARNING: can't stat() tmpfs file system /cow Output information may be incomplete.
[01:17] <Lynoure> viller: and no lines of open files?
[01:17] <viller> allready got it to work, thanks anyway lynoure
[01:17] <un_operateur> viller, you probably need  -  sudo lsof | grep /yourmpoint
[01:17] <Lynoure> Damn, I need to go to the store now...
[01:17] <viller> cool name
[01:19] <wsk170> so many "ubuntuer"
[01:19] <Naik0> Hojj!
[01:19] <F1Online> anyone dutch here >?
[01:19] <wsk170> it shou be ubuntuor  haha
[01:20] <viller> I created a new partition with ext3 as the filesystem and it has already 1.16gb of space used :S??
[01:20] <viller> ext3 sucks
[01:20] <elkbuntu> F1Online, there might be some dutch people in #ubuntu-nl ;)
[01:20] <F1Online> thnx
[01:20] <lupine_85> viller: nah, ext3 is fine
[01:20] <lupine_85> how large is the partition?
[01:21] <viller> 62.50 gb
[01:21] <fromvega> Hello!
[01:21] <wsk170> what's your filesystem?
[01:22] <lupine_85> viller: well, the 5% reserved would be 3.odd GB, so it's not that
[01:22] <zokzok> kann hier jemand deutsch (german )
[01:22] <sb> merry xmas!!!
[01:22] <viller> lupine_85 I didn't understand ur sentence
[01:23] <sb> is there someone that is having problems with edgy+hplip?
[01:23] <wsk170> what is hplip?
[01:24] <sb> wsk170: http://hplip.sourceforge.net/
[01:24] <zokzok> i want to go in ah german ubuntu channel need help
[01:24] <levan_tt> !hi
[01:24] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:24] <sb> xorllu: #ubuntu-de
[01:24] <fromvega> I have setup an internet gateway with Ubuntu Server, iptables and SQUID, it's working almost the time but I can't access external POP3, SMTP and some (not all) HTTPS sites (like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetConnectionSharing). Could you help-me please?
[01:24] <sb> zokzok: \join # ubuntu-de
[01:25] <sb> zokzok: /join #ubuntu-de
[01:25] <zokzok> thx
[01:26] <hope13> can someone recommend me a IDE? (other than eclipse)
[01:27] <hope13> that runs on linux
[01:27] <sb> hope13: anjuta?
[01:27] <sb> hope13: emacs
[01:27] <viller> hope13 check the programming forum on ubuntuforums.org
[01:27] <rob> hope13: vim
[01:27] <hope13> emacs is an editor hehe
[01:27] <sb> hope13: the latter is the best os around.
[01:27] <viller> it has a topic called "favourite IDE" or something
[01:27] <hope13> oh
[01:28] <hope13> thx again
[01:28] <viller> there are a lot of good ones there
[01:28] <viller> I personally like geany which is very lightweight
[01:28] <lupine_85> emacs is an operating system :(
[01:28] <hope13> i like emacs for light weight
[01:28] <lupine_85> nano++
[01:28] <hope13> i thought it was an editor
[01:28] <viller> it is they're joking
[01:28] <sb> hope13: /kidding dude
[01:28] <lupine_85> 'emacs is an OS' is a joke. mostly.
[01:29] <hope13> oh
[01:29] <hope13> lol
[01:29] <sb> lupine_85: sure of that?
[01:29] <lupine_85> mostly
[01:29] <lupine_85> it can do everything except GIMP-type stuff. Well, last I checked
[01:29] <lupine_85> it might have been improved on since then
[01:30] <sb> lupine_85: emacs with linux as devicedriver can do everything you want ..
[01:30] <lupine_85> sb: nah, Real Emacers Use HURD
[01:30] <Heroin> i run a ircd-hybrid server howdo i stop it? or restart it?
[01:30] <lafielle> Hi, I just formatted an NTFS partition to ext3.. What should I change the UUID in fstab to ?
[01:31] <lupine_85> HURD + EMACS = RMS-OS :p
[01:31] <sb> lupine_85: maybe ure talking about GNU
[01:31] <nilsl> Emacs buuuu
[01:31] <nilsl> *booo
[01:31] <nilsl> :D
[01:31] <sb> which is something different from hurd.
[01:31] <lupine_85> the GNU Hurd ?
[01:31] <Heroin> i run a ircd-hybrid server howdo i stop it? or restart it?
[01:31] <sb> nilsl: you can harakiri when you want.
[01:31] <sb> lupine_85: no, just GNU distribution ..
[01:31] <sb> s//the
[01:31] <lupine_85> GNU/Hurd + GNU/Emacs = GNU/RMS-OS
[01:31] <rob> ubotu: repeat | Heroin
[01:31] <ubotu> Heroin: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[01:31] <lupine_85> happy? :)
[01:32] <lafielle> j #linux
[01:32] <nilsl> sb: Yes, it's harakiri to run Emacs.
[01:32] <lafielle> er
[01:32] <sb> nilsl: :D
[01:32] <nilsl> Hehe
[01:32] <sb> lupine_85: if youre happy like that..
[01:32] <rob> Heroin: there usually is an executable under /usr/bin or wherever you installed it
[01:32] <hope13> ah... i'mma stick with emacs lol
[01:32] <lupine_85> sb: nah, I run Debian/Shuttleworth-OS
[01:33] <troughton> i am having problems with fglrx it wont register entrypoint
[01:33] <sb> lupine_85: http://www.update.uu.se/~ams/GNU/gnu-0.2/
[01:33] <sb> lupine_85: that is the GNU distribution, that is NOT hurd.
[01:33] <lupine_85> oh, they got it to compile? Good on them
[01:34] <sb> lupine_85: its 2 yrs old ..
[01:34] <sb> lupine_85: they got it sometimes ago.
[01:34] <fromvega> I'm configuring a linux gateway with NAT. The client machines have static ip addr. I do not want to configure the DNS information on the clients. What do I need to do in the gateway machine to be able to get internet access other than HTTP (because I running squid).
[01:34] <lupine_85> http://www.update.uu.se/~ams/GNU/gnu-0.2/README: "This is the Hurd.  Welcome."
[01:34] <lupine_85> I know what GNU is, don't worry
[01:35] <sb> lupine_85: dude, nowadays hurd is using l2 ..
[01:35] <sb> or something like that can't remember
[01:35] <lupine_85> and still doesn't work properly :p
[01:35] <lupine_85> microkernel--
[01:35] <troughton> how do i set fglrx ??
[01:36] <sb> btw PPL I'm using hp-makeuri with edgy and i keep on getting this error msg:error: Unable to connect to hpiod.
[01:37] <lupine_85> troughton: sudo apt-get install xorg-drivers-fglrx && sudo sed -i "s/vesa/fglrx" /etc/X11/xorg.conf && sudo sed -i "s/ati/fglrx" /etc/X11/xorg.conf && sudo /etc/init.d/?dm reload should do it
[01:38] <fransth> POVaddct, i try it, and got error,
[01:38] <fransth> i810 right?
[01:38] <fransth> POVaddct, i810 right?
[01:39] <fransth> POVaddct, r u there?
[01:43] <fransth> anyone have experience with i915GM?
[01:45] <Neskato23> hi everybody!
[01:46] <Neskato23> where can i find the splash image showed after grub, when OS is loading
[01:47] <un_operateur> !usplash
[01:47] <swim>  is there absolutely anyway to install something that makes ubuntu look/feel like ubuntustudio is planned to look for?
[01:47] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before the login screen appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[01:48] <Neskato23> thx ubotu : ))
[01:50] <Naik0> i cant configure gaim 2.0beta5
[01:50] <Naik0> i get this error:
[01:50] <Naik0> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[01:50] <Neskato23> i installed the kubuntu-desktop packages, and today after a week of this, when rebooting, i saw it a bit different : P
[01:51] <mbn_18> do i need to restart X after changing default font or rendering method ?
[01:52] <Rookie_> !nvidia
[01:52] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:56] <enotee> when i  try to save a file in bluefish i get an error .. need help
[01:58] <sedra> what kind of error enotee
[01:59] <sandeep> #ubuntu-in
[01:59] <enotee> its a long one do i post it here?
[02:00] <MaDSeN> hula
[02:01] <MaDSeN> where do I set system default language to da_DK.ISO_8859-1 ? anyone
[02:02] <MaDSeN> using xubuntu
[02:02] <enotee> what is the address of the fridge to post long mes.
[02:02] <fransth> alo
[02:02] <Lynoure> enotee: Do you mean pastebin and not fridge?
[02:02] <lupine_85> !pastebin
[02:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:03] <Lynoure> fridge is one of the ubuntu blogging sites, isn't it?
[02:03] <enotee> yes
[02:03] <fransth> aloha
[02:04] <LinTux> which is the best firewall that I can have a gui with
[02:05] <blackelf> marry xmass rob
[02:05] <un_operateur> firestarter + iptables, LinTux
[02:05] <blackelf> which ubuntu is the stable one nowdays?
[02:05] <un_operateur> blackelf, Edgy (6.10) and below
[02:05] <blackelf> how good is it for amd64?
[02:06] <blackelf> how about flash  open office and wine
[02:06] <LinTux> Is Shorewall better than Ubuntus std firewall and does it have a GUI
[02:06] <enotee> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38880/
[02:06] <Lynoure> LinTux: What is your criteria for goodness?
[02:07] <DolbyNR> I'm new to ubuntu since yesterday, new to linux. I tried to install my nvidia drivers (downloaded the driver .run file at the nvidia site). I tried : sudo sh /home/sixten/Desktop/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9746-pkg1.run but the software says : Unable to find the system utility `ld`; please make sure you have the package 'binutils' installed.  If you do have binutils installed
[02:07] <un_operateur> blackelf, there are some 64bit apps lacking but most 32-bit versions can be run a 32-bit chroot
[02:07] <blackelf> cool
[02:07] <blackelf> can I make ubuntu as serious as debian?
[02:07] <LinTux> I am trying to adminster a firewall myself, last time I used firestarter but cannot find it to install on this machine?
[02:07] <Lynoure> LinTux: And for what use do you want it? Laptop, desktop, multiple desktops, something else?
[02:07] <blackelf> that is get rid of all the silly stuff, create root account and so on?
[02:08] <un_operateur> LinTux, IIRC shorewall uses iptables -- as can ubuntu -- so probably no difference there
[02:08] <LinTux> Lynmore: Desktop
[02:08] <blackelf> because debian amd64 rather failed on my hardware
[02:08] <un_operateur> blackelf, sure -- ubuntu is debian (almost)
[02:08] <Lynoure> blackelf: not worth the hassle, imo, as when you upgrade you are expected to have the desktop meta package installed anyway
[02:08] <blackelf> un_operateur: is there some list of changes debian vs ubuntu?
[02:08] <blackelf> Lynoure: ?
[02:09] <un_operateur> blackelf, there probably is but i've never come across such
[02:09] <Lynoure> blackelf: (assuming by silly stuff you meant some of the desktop stuff)
[02:09] <blackelf> I ment, I  dont like the for-lamers "addons" like no root thingy and sudo ALL but that is easly fixed, are there more such surprises?
[02:09] <blackelf> no I ment the no-root stuff
[02:10] <Lynoure> blackelf: that hardly removes much, just a matter of configuration.
[02:10] <un_operateur> blackelf, if debian failed to install on a 64 bit system chances are ubuntu will too .. as some 64 bit linux drivers are still yet to materialize
[02:10] <blackelf> so by simply fixing sudo I will have almost a debian, but a little more up to date right?
[02:10] <trilingualkid> hello?
[02:10] <sutabi> Im tring to upgrade to ubuntu 6.10 and I keep erroring out at python-gtk is there a way to not upgrade that package?
[02:10] <blackelf> un_operateur: perhaps...
[02:10] <trilingualkid> hi. i need some help (hope i'm not interrupting)
[02:11] <`rich> trilingualkid, not at all, ask away.
[02:11] <trilingualkid> how do i log on as root? this is only my second day with ubuntu?
[02:11] <sutabi> trilingualkid:  you dont log in you sudo
[02:11] <un_operateur> trilingualkid, on ubuntu (or *nux in general), you dont
[02:11] <Lynoure> !sudo | trilingualkid
[02:11] <ubotu> trilingualkid: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:12] <blackelf> trilingualkid: sudo  passwd root  enter your password, then enter twice the new root password
[02:12] <trilingualkid> so the password is sudo?
[02:12] <blackelf> no
[02:12] <trilingualkid> i'm confused.
[02:12] <`rich> no sudo is a program that lets you run a command as root
[02:12] <un_operateur> blackelf, we dont recommend that ..
[02:12] <blackelf> sudo program   will lunch program as if you where root
[02:12] <trilingualkid> ok.
[02:12] <sutabi> trilingualkid: read the link
[02:12] <adam0509> xserver-xorg-input-joystick <= could someone explain me what does this package ? I'm making a complete HOW TO on joysticks
[02:12] <trilingualkid> so i have to type in sudo in the terminal and then type the command?
[02:12] <`rich> yep
[02:12] <`rich> e.g. sudo shutdown
[02:13] <`rich> as you can't shutdown as a normal user :)
[02:13] <trilingualkid> ok. thanx a lot! bye!
[02:13] <`rich> o/
[02:13] <mwe> blackelf: please refer people to wiki explaining sudo instead. it explains the idea of using sudo and tells you how to set a root password as well if you insist
[02:14] <DolbyNR> how can I exit thee X server to install my videodrivers ?
[02:14] <mwe> DolbyNR: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop will shut down the server promptly
[02:14] <DolbyNR> thanks
[02:14] <mwe> DolbyNR: close everything first
[02:14] <`rich> does ctrl+alt+backspace with ubuntu, or will it just restart x?
[02:15] <lupine_85> sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop
[02:15] <mwe> `rich: it will restart it
[02:15] <lupine_85> and sudo /etc/init.d/?dm start to get back in
[02:15] <`rich> bah
[02:15] <lupine_85> (? makes it work with xdm and kdm as well :) )
[02:15] <trilingualkid> hi. i need some help.
[02:15] <Lynoure> trilingualkid: welcome back.
[02:15] <trilingualkid> im trying to install yahoo messenger for linux and i type in the command and then it asks me for a password
[02:15] <`rich> it's your own password
[02:15] <trilingualkid> oh
[02:15] <mwe> lupine_85: I wonder what happens if you have more than one dm installed with that command ;)
[02:15] <trilingualkid> ok i thought it was a special root password
[02:15] <Lynoure> trilingualkid: did you look at the link on sudo at all?
[02:16] <Lynoure> !sudo | trilingualkid
[02:16] <ubotu> trilingualkid: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:16] <trilingualkid> what link?
[02:16] <`rich> i spent 15 minutes thinking i'd forgotten my root password the other day, before i remembered I was using ubuntu :s
[02:16] <trilingualkid> i'll look at it . thanx
[02:16] <Lynoure> trilingualkid: I did that last time you were here, too
[02:16] <trilingualkid> sorri.
[02:16] <trilingualkid> i didn't notice
[02:16] <lupine_85> mwe: nothing interesting
[02:16] <Lynoure> trilingualkid: it happens :)
[02:16] <lupine_85> (I've got all three on this computer)
[02:16] <trilingualkid> ok. thanx. bye
[02:16] <mwe> lupine_85: does it stop the dm?
[02:16] <lupine_85> well, yes
[02:17] <lupine_85> it starts it (the right one, surprisingly) as well
[02:17] <mwe> lupine_85: heh
[02:17] <lupine_85> initscript magickery I guess
[02:17] <mwe> lupine_85: yeah
[02:17] <mwe> lupine_85: kdm wont start if gdm is set as default at least
[02:18] <yakumo> hello i buy a 160 gig hard drive but when i iam going to install ubuntu i notice that the total space available for me is only 149,425 gig... and its a brand new hard disk... anyone know why???
[02:18] <lupine_85> yakumo: MB != MiB
[02:18] <yakumo> right
[02:18] <un_operateur> yakumo, GB != GiB too
[02:19] <lupine_85> hard disc manufacturers like shortchanging you of 24 bytes/KB
[02:19] <lupine_85> it adds up
[02:19] <MaDSeN> anyone know how to make icon background transparent?
[02:19] <yakumo> right
[02:19] <`rich> always expect diskspace to be slightly less than advertised ;)
[02:19] <yakumo>  hello i buy a 160 gig hard drive but when i iam going to install ubuntu i notice that the total space available for me is only 149 GB... and its a brand new hard disk... anyone know why???
[02:20] <mwe> which one is the is powers of 10 is that the GiB one?
[02:20] <`rich> we ... just answered that?
[02:20] <lupine_85> yakumo: do some somes. It's the difference between 10^2 and 2^10
[02:20] <un_operateur> `rich, it's always correct as advertised, except HD vendors use a different scheme to other other computer users
[02:20] <lupine_85> HArd disc manufacturers like the first... everyone else uses the second
[02:20] <lupine_85> erm. sums.
[02:20] <Lynoure> yakumo: you can still go to the store and complain if you wish to vent. It's time they switch to better ways of announcing the disk space. But they will not exchange it, I bet, because it is not kroken.
[02:20] <Lynoure> s/kroken/broken
[02:21] <lupine_85> *technically*, the hard disc manufactuer is correct, so you can't complain
[02:21] <lupine_85> 2^10 is MiB/GiB, not MB/GB
[02:21] <Lynoure> lupine_85: One can always complain :)
[02:21] <lupine_85> but who cares about technicalities? ;)
[02:21] <`rich> trilingualkid, lol, wb
[02:21] <yakumo> ok thnks... to bad for me:(
[02:21] <trilingualkid> does ubuntu not have modern printer drivers?
[02:21] <Francis_Albert> hi
[02:22] <Lynoure> trilingualkid: you can stick around, too. :)
[02:22] <lupine_85> trilingualkid: depends on the printer
[02:22] <mwe> um 2^10 = 1024, 10^2 = 100
[02:22] <rusher> hello
[02:22] <Francis_Albert> hello?
[02:22] <trilingualkid> i was trying to install a lexmark X2480
[02:22] <pradeep_> hi
[02:22] <rusher> anyone use kde?
[02:22] <lupine_85> mwe: oops :p
[02:22] <`rich> hello everyone saying hello
[02:22] <eztk> is there an ubuntu repository for swiftfox?
[02:22] <agorf> hello. how is it possible to work on ubuntu (dapper drake) without any problems and when i do a cat /etc/mtab, no root partition is mounted?
[02:22] <Lynoure> trilingualkid: Some printers do not come with modern drivers by the manufacturer, unfortunately. Which printer you have?
[02:22] <lupine_85> trilingualkid: Lexmark are ones I've always had trouble with
[02:22] <lupine_85> check www.linuxprinting.org
[02:22] <Lynoure> oh, said.
[02:22] <trilingualkid> ok.
[02:22] <rusher> google swiftfox and it is a easy install
[02:22] <trilingualkid> because i installed my epson perfectly!
[02:22] <lupine_85> if you're not supported and still want to use it, check www.turboprint.de
[02:22] <Francis_Albert> rusher, I use
[02:23] <Burntime> German users here?
[02:23] <lupine_85> !de
[02:23] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:23] <trilingualkid> i'll check out the website.
[02:23] <rusher> gnome is getting king of old , thinking of switching
[02:23] <trilingualkid> thank you.
[02:23] <Burntime> lupine_85, thx
[02:23] <eztk> rusher: i already have it on here
[02:23] <eztk> rusher: trying to figure out how i could use apt-get to upgrade to the next version
[02:23] <nilsl> My sources.list can't be read, and I can't understand why.
[02:24] <rusher> oh hmm might have to just use source
[02:24] <nilsl> Whatever I put there, jsut won't work.
[02:24] <rusher> what is the newest version
[02:24] <eztk> rusher: yeah there was some debate around the slow rate of innovation around gnome...
[02:24] <lupine_85> nilsl: it can't read 'whatever' - it has a specfic format. pastebin it.
[02:24] <eztk> eztk: wish i could remember the website name, it was a good read
[02:24] <eztk> err rusher even! lol
[02:24] <lupine_85> rusher: feisty, but you probably don't want to use that. so edgy.
[02:24] <kane77> hi
[02:24] <NineTeen67Comet> Hi all . .I'm trying to get squared away on chmod (permissions) .. if I make a directory owned by root:users .. and read/writable by the users group, shouldn't all users in the users group be able to read/write to that directory?
[02:25] <rusher> automatix would be the best way to install swiftfox, but this room discourages automatix
[02:25] <nilsl> lupine_85: I have tried example source-lists.
[02:25] <kane77> is it possible to convert my ext2 partition into ext3??
[02:25] <nilsl> lupine_85: With the correct, of what I can understand, format
[02:25] <rusher> <--downloading kde
[02:25] <trilingualkid> i have a question about ubuntu 7.04 feisty fawn.
[02:25] <un_operateur> NineTeen67Comet, that is correct yes
[02:25] <`rich> nilsl, it's hard to help without seeing the problem :) whack it in a pastebin
[02:25] <NineTeen67Comet> un_operateur: cool .. back to work then .. lol
[02:26] <nilsl> trilingualkid: `rich: Uhm, I'
[02:26] <trilingualkid> what's the big difference between feisty fawn 7.04 and edgy eft 6.10?
[02:26] <nilsl> lol
[02:26] <un_operateur> NineTeen67Comet, I hope you get the terminology right tho
[02:26] <FreeNet> Hi I am looking for a Linux Backup Program with FrontEnd GUI, it can be scheduled to grab files from windows directory. May I know can anyone recommend one?
[02:26] <nilsl> `rich: I've tried the one on Ubuntu Starter (the wiki)
[02:26] <rusher> what is the difference between a debian install and ubuntu? Me thinks it will be the same
[02:26] <un_operateur> NineTeen67Comet, I hope you meant "group" when you said "user's group"
[02:26] <`rich> nilsl, what error does apt give you?
[02:26] <NineTeen67Comet> un_operateur: yeah ..
[02:26] <un_operateur> NineTeen67Comet, you have to give permissions to a group for it's members to have those accesses
[02:26] <trilingualkid> i have a question about ubuntu 7.04 feisty fawn. what's the big difference between feisty fawn 7.04 and edgy eft 6.10?
[02:27] <rusher> you might have to wait until it is done to see the changes
[02:27] <lupine_85> trilingualkid: feisty fawn will pwn your hard drive
[02:27] <nilsl> `rich: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[02:27] <trilingualkid> what does pwn mean?
[02:27] <lupine_85> means it's likely to be mean to you at this stage
[02:27] <`rich> murder
[02:27] <portofu> anyone know if installing 2 linux dist on same system creating RAIDs with same name would cause any problems? 1st linux: /dev/md0 /dev/md1 2nd linux: /dev/md0 /dev/md1 /dev/md2
[02:27] <`rich> sort of.
[02:27] <trilingualkid> no; i mean when it comes out in April.
[02:27] <nilsl> `rich: It say; "can't read [a specific word and line] , and "The list of sources can
[02:27] <nilsl> t be read"
[02:28] <`rich> what's the specific word and line
[02:28] <`rich> ?
[02:28] <lupine_85> oh, when it comes out in april. Updates to most packages
[02:28] <nilsl> `rich: 'restricted' line 9
[02:28] <NineTeen67Comet> un_operateur: aha .. gotta look into giving groups permissions .. hummm .. got all my users in the users group, and all the mentioned directories <user>:users so all can access them (<user> I mean depends on it's location) ..
[02:28] <lupine_85> oh, and desktop effects by default
[02:28] <trilingualkid> i never really understood what packages really are.
[02:28] <nilsl> `rich: But it's different depending on what list I use.
[02:28] <un_operateur> nilsl, make sure you are using purely ASCII characters in sources.list
[02:28] <yuesefa> how could i open a telnet port on 3000
[02:28] <trilingualkid> (well, it's only my 2nd or 3rd day)
[02:29] <`rich> nilsl, yeah, sounds like you have a syntax error in your config files
[02:29] <nilsl> `rich: No, there's no syntax error.
[02:29] <nilsl> un_operateur: Yes, that may be it.
[02:29] <Francis_Albert>  oi
[02:29] <Francis_Albert>   hi?
[02:29] <yakumo> also im trying to reinstall my ubuntu... do i need to copy the file on /var/cache/apt/archives to install the package i use on my previous ubuntu
[02:30] <`rich> Francis_Albert, hi
[02:30] <nilsl> un_operateur: How do I set this up correctly?
[02:30] <trilingualkid> what's a package?
[02:30] <un_operateur> nilsl, can you pastebin your sources.list
[02:30] <un_operateur> ?
[02:30] <nilsl> un_operateur: I'm using: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[02:30] <trilingualkid> Francis_Albert: do you speak portuguese?
[02:31] <trilingualkid> vc fala portugues?
[02:31] <un_operateur> nilsl, yea but, by looking at your sources.list we can garner the cause of the error
[02:31] <rusher> echo url >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:31] <un_operateur> rusher, ohhh no .. that's likely to corrupt it
[02:31] <nilsl> un_operateur: It's the example one.
[02:31] <rusher> what does ubuntu do that is different than debian
[02:31] <nilsl> un_operateur: Right on that site, the exact same.
[02:31] <NineTeen67Comet> un_operateur: little question .. via cli how can I check and see what permissions the users group has? I'm googeling around, but not much success ..
[02:31] <Francis_Albert> trilingualkid, yes, and you ?
[02:31] <trilingualkid> yes. it is my native language
[02:33] <`rich> nilsl, that list works (I use it), but yours doesn't, so there's a difference somewhere.
[02:33] <un_operateur> NineTeen67Comet, if a group own an object -- the permissions it has are determined by ls -l
[02:33] <trilingualkid> DOES ANYONE HERE KNOW WHAT PACKAGES ARE?
[02:33] <nilsl> `rich: Well, the problem may be because I'm running the server version.
[02:33] <NineTeen67Comet> un_operateur: n'kay .. think I got that'n .. thank you much ..
[02:33] <Francis_Albert> trilingualkid, good
[02:33] <kane77> is there anything that would manage the priority of processes??
[02:33] <`rich> trilingualkid, yes, they're bits of software you can install.
[02:33] <nilsl> `rich: But I can't find any examples of the sources.list for the server version.
[02:33] <un_operateur> NineTeen67Comet, if you are looking for complex user and group support, you probably are better of using ACL/getfacl/setfacl, etc
[02:33] <trilingualkid> `rich: what do you mean? are they just like regular applications?
[02:34] <`rich> trilingualkid, yeah, basically. apt-get install <package-name>
[02:34] <kane77> trilingualkid, no. more of an instalation packages
[02:34] <trilingualkid> kane77what do you mean by that?
[02:34] <kane77> trilingualkid, well you install them...
[02:35] <trilingualkid> ok, but what exactly do they do?
[02:35] <eztk> rusher: just used the debian repos...works fine :)
[02:35] <eztk> using aptitude
[02:35] <trilingualkid> kane77: i don't see the difference btween apps and packages
[02:35] <un_operateur> nilsl, as far as i can see, there's nothing wrong with the sources.list on the wiki except that line #9 is a comment, are you sure you have exactly the same sources??
[02:35] <trilingualkid> :-/ im confused
[02:35] <nilsl> un_operateur: Yes.
[02:35] <kane77> trilingualkid, I believe they are pre-compiled pieces of software that when you install them tey copy themeseves into the right directory
[02:36] <un_operateur> nilsl, nothing before, no old repo definitions before?
[02:36] <Lynoure> trilingualkid: some packages are what are called metapackages, containing no software themselves but installing many packages that do.
[02:36] <trilingualkid> oh, ok. thank you
[02:36] <rusher> http://linux.wordpress.com/2006/08/12/ubuntu-vs-debian-what-canonical-doesnt-want-you-to-know/
[02:36] <Francis_Albert> kane77, do you like Umbutu?
[02:36] <nilsl> un_operateur: See, I have nothing installed yet, so I have just created the file on a friends computer, and wget it to /etc/apt/
[02:36] <`rich> losing the original?
[02:37] <nilsl> `rich: Yes, I wiped it out.
[02:37] <kane77> Francis_Albert, sure and you?
[02:37] <`rich> Right, anyone else running the server edition got a sources.list nilsl can use? :D
[02:37] <nilsl> That'd be super
[02:37] <Francis_Albert> kane77, more less
[02:37] <trilingualkid> when did ubuntu start?
[02:38] <un_operateur> nilsl, ok, now, you've done something that usually is never done -- what URL exactly did you wget??
[02:38] <chrissturm> is a software raid 1 faster than no raid at all?
[02:38] <nilsl> un_operateur: The url to the sources.list on friends computer?
[02:38] <nilsl> *my
[02:39] <un_operateur> nilsl, please just pastebin the contents of sources.list, I'd like this short and simple :)
[02:39] <nilsl> un_operateur: I don't think you know what you're talking about.
[02:39] <nilsl> un_operateur: :))
[02:39] <Lynoure> trilingualkid: the first release was on October 20, 2004, it's based on Debian (which is older than that. And Linux itself is even older)
[02:39] <blinx> who has written ubotu ?
[02:40] <nilsl> un_operateur: See, a simple wget of a copy of the file instead of writing the whole sources.list-file by hand is nothing "unusual"
[02:40] <blinx> !about
[02:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about about - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:40] <blinx> !ubotu
[02:40] <blinx> !help
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[02:40] <un_operateur> nilsl, if you wget a HTML file to sources.list, you get a borked sources.list :)
[02:40] <nilsl> un_operateur: It's not a html-file.
[02:41] <nilsl> un_operateur: It's a _.list_-file
[02:41] <un_operateur> nilsl, just what is a _.list_-file ?
[02:41] <nilsl> wget brings you contens on webservers, of any file extension
[02:41] <nilsl> *contents
[02:42] <kane77> is it possible to convert my ext2 partition into ext3??
[02:42] <un_operateur> nilsl, help yourself , you are smart enough to do it  - i dunno why you ask for it in here
[02:43] <Lynoure> kane77: yes. easily. you can probably google it up yourself.
[02:43] <Francis_Albert>  trilingualkid, yes, and you ?
[02:43] <light_> why can't i add unallocated disk space to my EXT3 ubuntu partition? (using gparted live cd)
[02:43] <Francis_Albert>  trilingualkid, yes, and you ?
[02:43] <Francis_Albert>  8,1 trilingualkid, yes, and you ?
[02:44] <Francis_Albert>  8,1 trilingualkid, yes, and you ?
[02:44] <nilsl> un_operateur: I'm just asking for a sources.list file for a ubuntu server.
[02:44] <Francis_Albert>  oi
[02:44] <Lynoure> kane77: if you cannot find it, let me know :)
[02:44] <Francis_Albert>  8,1 trilingualkid, yes, and you ?
[02:44] <kane77> Lynoure, thx, googling it...
[02:44] <un_operateur> nilsl, you can use the same one a "workstation" uses
[02:45] <Francis_Albert> /server irc.jampa.com
[02:45] <Francis_Albert> \server irc.jampa.com
[02:46] <nilsl> un_operateur: Well, apparently that doesn't seem to work ... There were more stuff in the original file ...
[02:47] <un_operateur> nilsl, running edgy?
[02:47] <nilsl> un_operateur: Yes
[02:47] <un_operateur> nilsl, here you go - http://pastebin.ca/292398
[02:47] <trilingualkid> is there a ctrl-alt-del command in ubuntu?
[02:48] <un_operateur> trilingualkid, yes
[02:48] <tim167> how dow I set the dimensions of a scan in Xsane ?
[02:48] <trilingualkid> bcause im trying 2 start firefox and it says that its open but not responding.
[02:48] <trilingualkid> so it wont go
[02:48] <Viaken> trilingualkid: Ctrl-Alt-Del to reboot or Ctrl-Alt-Del to bring up a system monitor?
[02:48] <Viaken> ah
[02:48] <trilingualkid> system monitor
[02:48] <Viaken> open a terminal and "killall firefox-bin"
[02:48] <nilsl> un_operateur: Thank you. :)
[02:48] <trilingualkid> i now that ctrl-alt-backspace logs out or something.
[02:49] <trilingualkid> thank you viaken.
[02:49] <un_operateur> nilsl, :)
[02:49] <nilsl> I doubt it'll work though, lol; but ok, another try ...
[02:49] <Viaken> trilingualkid: "ps aux" will show you information on all the currently running processes... or "top"
[02:49] <trilingualkid> what's ps aux?
[02:50] <Lynoure> trilingualkid:   man ps  will give you more info
[02:50] <trilingualkid> what's ps?
[02:50] <Lynoure> trilingualkid: man  gives a manual page for the command
[02:50] <tim167> for some reason Xsane scans only the middle part of my document, how can i make it scan the full page ?
[02:50] <con-man> trilingualkid: its a list of processes
[02:50] <trilingualkid> how do i open it?
[02:50] <con-man> trilingualkid: man ps
[02:51] <Viaken> trilingualkid: in the terminal
[02:51] <trilingualkid> ok. thank you.
[02:51] <trilingualkid> that explains it.
[02:53] <nilsl> Heh, doesn't work; a new word and line: 'universe' and line 3.
[02:53] <nilsl> This is the weirdest shit I've ever seen.
[02:53] <nilsl> There's no bullshit letters or charsets that could mess it up ... Gah
[02:53] <nilsl> :((
[02:54] <light_> why can't i add unallocated disk space to my EXT3 ubuntu partition? (using gparted live cd)
[02:55] <roico> light_,     ?
[02:55] <un_operateur> nilsl, are you per chance editing the file on windows and then copying it over to linux?
[02:55] <eztk> rusher: the rest of the article is gone from blogger :(
[02:55] <nilsl> un_operateur: No, ubuntu to ubuntu
[02:55] <nilsl> I'm using nano
[02:55] <`rich> nano -w, right?
[02:56] <light_> roico, i can't understand what you wrote
[02:56] <HomerSimpson> Hi there ;-)
[02:56] <un_operateur> nilsl, whats the full and exact error message you get??
[02:56] <light_> roico, it's kind of messed up
[02:56] <eztk> is it safe to boot into live cd and use gparted to resize /home and / to increase space? i still have 90gb unallocated
[02:57] <`rich> irc as root is not cool.
[02:57] <nilsl> un_operateur: Type 'universe' is not known on line 3 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:57] <nilsl> un_operateur: The source list can not be read.
[02:57] <eztk> `rich: people used to get auto kick and ban for that, back in the day
[02:57] <un_operateur> nilsl,  if you do a - cat /etc/apt/sources.list | wc -l   now, you should get 15, do you?
[02:57] <`rich> nilsl, are you usin nano -w or just nano? if you don't specify -w then nano will wrap the text and possibly start a line with "universe" and the like
[02:58] <viller> hi
[02:58] <un_operateur> nilsl, I have a feeling, nano was wrapping your long lines so that universe was pushed out on a line of its own
[02:58] <needhelp> Im going to do a clean install of Windows XP and ubuntu 6. I have one fast scsi hdd and two ide hdds. Whats the best way to install both? Which OS to be installed first? On which partition should each of the OS's go ?
[02:58] <tortho> how can i downgrade packages to the ones delivered from ubuntu 6.10? I have used some other repos.
[02:58] <HomerSimpson> Hi guys.... Does anyone know why the 'apropos' command always returns 'no results' in Ubuntu server?
[02:58] <viller> i try to start obconf (after installing it) but it says i'm missing a library called libobrender.so.1
[02:59] <nilsl> un_operateur: Hm, interesting
[02:59] <viller> eztk try warsow, sauerbraten and actioncube. I don't think they're on synaptic but those games rock!
[02:59] <eztk> thanks viller!! ive been enjoying freeciv too!
[03:00] <nilsl> un_operateur: Genious.
[03:00] <viller> is there a reinstall operation for apt-get?
[03:00] <nilsl> un_operateur: I'm convinced that is the problem.
[03:00] <jpjacobs> eztk, there is some site... i think it's happypenguin.org (or google for linux gametome)
[03:00] <un_operateur> nilsl, if you get any output here, it's borked -- cat /etc/apt/sources.list | egrep -vi "^(#|deb)"
[03:00] <jpjacobs> nexuiz is also a really good game
[03:00] <eztk> thanks
[03:01] <eztk> nexuiz totally froze me out
[03:01] <viller> I thought nexuiz is still WIP
[03:01] <tortho> viller: --reinstall
[03:01] <eztk> some games have issues interacting with beryl
[03:01] <tortho> viller: man apt-get
[03:01] <nilsl> un_operateur: My putty window was too small.
[03:01] <viller> tortho: I mean like "sudo apt-get install ..."
[03:01] <nilsl> un_operateur: :D
[03:01] <tim167> in Xsane : how do I get it to scan fullpages ?? thanks
[03:01] <vleon> can someone help me please
[03:01] <nilsl> un_operateur: Thank you, it's working.
[03:01] <vleon> ?
[03:01] <un_operateur> nilsl, :)
[03:01] <nilsl> un_operateur: So simple ... :))
[03:01] <vleon> im having troubles with my ubuntu
[03:01] <eztk> thanks for that link jpjacobs
[03:02] <MaDSeN> vleon, who hasn't ? :D
[03:02] <IdleOne> vleon,  need to be a little more precise
[03:02] <tortho> viller: sudo apt-get install --reinstall package_name
[03:02] <jpjacobs> np
[03:02] <eztk> i dont like installing outside of repos
[03:03] <needhelp> Im going to do a clean install of Windows XP and ubuntu 6. I have one fast scsi hdd and two ide hdds. Whats the best way to install both? Which OS to be installed first? On which partition should each of the OS's go ?
[03:03] <eztk> building from source etc
[03:03] <vleon> yeah sorry a phone call
[03:03] <eztk> will probably mess up an upgrade to FF or something
[03:03] <`rich> needhelp, generally, install the "stupider" OS first.
[03:03] <vleon> i waited to see if someone will help
[03:03] <jpjacobs> eztk, use checkinstall, it makes removing selfcompiled software easily
[03:03] <viller> tortho: it gave me this error "invalid operation package_name" :D
[03:03] <jpjacobs> !checkinstall>eztk
[03:03] <vleon> well first of all im a newb in linux
[03:03] <eztk> thanks jpj
[03:04] <`rich> needhelp, and I believe windows has issues if it's not on the first partition of the first HDD, though I may be wrong there
[03:04] <IdleOne> vleon,  get to the nitty gritty dude
[03:04] <vleon> decided to use ubuntu because of idiology
[03:04] <lupine_85> needhelp: windows before ubuntu; partition order isn't too important
[03:04] <vleon> ok
[03:04] <tortho> viller:  an example: sudo apt-get install --reinstall gaim
[03:04] <viller> tortho: oh thanks
[03:04] <vleon> strange things happen in my desktop
[03:04] <vleon> when i restart it sometimes
[03:04] <vleon> by logging off
[03:04] <vleon> or by cnt + alt + <-
[03:05] <`rich> vleon, define strange? :)
[03:05] <vleon> things dissapear
[03:05] <vleon> sometimes my wallpaper
[03:05] <vleon> sometimes gnome menus
[03:05] <needhelp> lupine_85, `rich: thanks. But where to install which OS? Windows on /dev/hda1, GNU on /dev/sda1 or what?
[03:05] <IdleOne> !enter
[03:05] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[03:05] <vleon> if i try to use full terminal
[03:05] <puffy-san> any peercast users here?
[03:05] <vleon> i mean ctrl + alt + f1-6
[03:06] <vleon> i get a strange screen
[03:06] <vleon> with colors
[03:06] <`rich> needhelp, I'm inclined to go with lupine_85's opinion and say that the order doesn't matter
[03:06] <vleon> well its definetly not a terminal
[03:06] <needhelp> k
[03:06] <`rich> Ubuntu will install grub (the bootloader) on whichever partition is correct anyway
[03:07] <lupine_85> windows is stupid, but not /that/ stupid
[03:07] <IdleOne> !dualboot | needhelp
[03:07] <ubotu> needhelp: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[03:07] <lupine_85> unless it's an early version of windows, of course :p
[03:07] <lupine_85> <= ME
[03:07] <`rich> The latest (released) version is, what, 5 years old now? :P
[03:07] <lupine_85> anything NT-based should be fine
[03:08] <vleon> well about my problem :)
[03:08] <needhelp> should /home be a separate partition or same partition as / ?
[03:09] <HomerSimpson> Hi guys.... Does anyone know why the 'apropos' command always returns 'no results' in Ubuntu server?
[03:09] <pianoboy3333> Anyone here good with mencoder? How could I put four VOB files together, and transcode them to an avi file, and also starting it at 2:00 minutes into the first vob file, and stopping 6:00 min into the second vob file?
[03:09] <`rich> needhelp, up to you. i like to have it separate so that it stays alive when i reinstall OS for whatever reason.
[03:09] <mnoir> needhelp: it is often prudent to make it separate but not absolutely necessary
[03:09] <lupine_85> needhelp: mine is separate; IMO it's the best way.
[03:09] <Hit3k> needhelp, always keep it seperate because if for some reason your system crashes you dont lose your files
[03:09] <needhelp> thanks
[03:10] <Valmarko> vleon, I understand what you mean because sometimes, when I start a new session of gnome, the order of the icons on the panel change completly. It's not everytime but... it happens
[03:10] <IdleOne> vleon, I dont mean to be rude but you were very vague. you need to describe what it is your doing and what happens when you do it ( be as precise as possible and offer up as much info as you can ) and dont use the enter key 400 times :)
[03:12] <reiki> I just got a new sata drive (second one). I have dapper on /dev/sda1 and edgy on /dev/hda1 (an IDE drive). Is it possible to just rsync the entire IDE drive onto the new sata drive and then change grub?
[03:15] <POVaddct> reiki: should be possible, yes. but you have to change to fstab also.
[03:16] <hemanth> how do i install gyache in ubuntu???
[03:16] <POVaddct> reiki: edgy's fstab refers to filesystem UUIDs and they will change when you create new filesystems on the new sata drive.
[03:17] <reiki> hmmmmm.... ok.... good point
[03:17] <r_rehashed> hello everybody
[03:17] <reiki> maybe I should just reinstall edgy on the new sata drive
[03:17] <lupine_85> POVaddct, reiki: they're easy enough to change
[03:18] <reiki> the UUIDs? That's all new to me
[03:18] <lupine_85> in a livecd, or just use the "old" /dev/sdxx if you can't be bothered using UUIDs
[03:18] <hemanth> how do i install gyache in ubuntu??? I tried to install but couldn't
[03:18] <lupine_85> it's a 128bit (or so) hexadecimal number
[03:18] <POVaddct> lupine_85: for ext2/3 i know how to get the uuid (tune2fs -l), but how to get UUID for swap?
[03:18] <bushel> hi @ all, can anybody tell me how to install a intel modemdriver? please meet me in 'intel_537Modem' room
[03:19] <lupine_85> POVaddct: they're referenced in /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[03:19] <pianoboy3333> Anyone here good with mencoder? How could I put four VOB files together, and transcode them to an avi file, and also starting it at 2:00 minutes into the first vob file, and stopping 6:00 min into the second vob file?
[03:19] <lupine_85> so an ls -la will show you where they symlink to
[03:19] <reiki> my swap doesn't get used. I have 2 gigs of memory and I've never seen swap in use. :)
[03:19] <POVaddct> lupine_85: yes, but how is /dev/disk/by-uuid/ built? on base of which data?
[03:19] <lupine_85> probably udev - TBH I have no idea. They're just symlinks
[03:20] <POVaddct> lupine_85: i know that udev creates that symlinks. but i dont know on which basis. for ext2/3 it is clear.
[03:20] <pucko_> POVaddct, uuidgen
[03:21] <POVaddct> pucko_: i dont think it generates them. then they would be different on each boot.
[03:21] <pucko_> yeah, and that would defeat the purpose.
[03:21] <POVaddct> pucko_: there must be some tool to GET the existing uuid of a partition/fs
[03:21] <bushel> is there anybody how could tell me where to put the comands in and how for install of a intel modem driver ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/Intel537EP
[03:22] <bushel> room intel537_modem
[03:22] <pucko_> but uuidgen generates them from the clock or something, but in fstab vol_id generates them from some data (be it from the partition perhaps?)
[03:22] <POVaddct> pucko_: and i am almost sure that not each fs type has such a uuid. fat32 for example has not.
[03:22] <pucko_> POVaddct, yes, vol_id
[03:22] <POVaddct> pucko_: vol_id looks like it
[03:22] <lupine_85> oh, so uuids *are* random
[03:23] <POVaddct> lupine_85: random only once. then they get stored somewhere.
[03:23] <lupine_85> that's random enough for me
[03:24] <POVaddct> lupine_85: its just long enough to be unique
[03:24] <lupine_85> I just don't see any value added by using them. They just shift changing /dev/fstab from when you swap drive positions to when you move to a new partition
[03:24] <bushel> whre do i have to put in the make command?
[03:24] <lupine_85> bushel: in any directory with a Makefile
[03:24] <Roconda> how can I kill my sound pid ? (I use gnome)
[03:24] <lupine_85> Roconda: killall esd ?
[03:25] <POVaddct> lupine_85: yeah, i think they actually make things more complicated than with /dev/hd* or /dev/sd*
[03:25] <bushel> do i have to specify it for the folder where the driver is inn?
[03:25] <Roconda> lupine_85: thx I forget that it was esd, I know that it is for kde artsd :p
[03:25] <POVaddct> lupine_85: the only real advantage is using them for removable usb/firewire drives
[03:25] <jethro> hello. I'm new to ubuntu, and I'm a bit confused by packages. ie: what is a "universe" package, and what do I need in sources.list to be able to install such a package? (I'm used to using debian, with main/contrib/non-free etc..)
[03:25] <lupine_85> POVaddct: I could live with /dev/by-id -- but by-uuid
[03:26] <lupine_85> !packages | jethro
[03:26] <ubotu> jethro: You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[03:26] <pucko_> lupine_85, but you can change your hd configuration without updating fstab
[03:26] <lupine_85> pucko_: but I can't change to a new partition without updating fstab
[03:26] <bushel> anybody that knows something about modems?
[03:26] <jethro> lupine_85: how is that supposed to help ?
[03:26] <lupine_85> which is most likely to happen?
[03:26] <vleon> ok lets try again, it seems that i have problems with my gnome, for example when i update my apllications menu with menu layout, it is updated only after a restart, also when i use my gnome and the log off and log back in some part of the interface arent loaded like the upper and lower bar, and or the wallpaper. also when i change my session to a full terminal one (by pressing ctrl + alt + F1) i get a screen with lots of colors and no te
[03:26] <vleon> rminal
[03:26] <lupine_85> jethro: good point
[03:26] <lupine_85> !universe |jethro
[03:26] <ubotu> jethro: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[03:26] <lupine_85> better :
[03:27] <jethro> !EasySource
[03:27] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:27] <POVaddct> bushel: one thing i know for sure. don't use winmodems (softmodems). the suck big time.
[03:27] <pucko_> yeah, I noticed that too. I hit that snag too, but there will probably appear some stuff that does that automatically. kind of like update-grub
[03:27] <POVaddct> s/the/they
[03:27] <dint> Hi. How to uninstall a program with Wine?
[03:27] <jethro> lupine_85: so I just have to add universe after main in my sources.list?
[03:27] <bushel> good point but i have no choice i have to use that stupid softmodem
[03:27] <juano> hello everyone
[03:27] <lupine_85> jethro: pretty much. add multiverse as well if you like
[03:28] <bushel> but i am to new to ubu to even install the driver for it
[03:28] <jethro> lupine_85: I will if I need it. I just want to install ddclient on a router
[03:28] <jethro> lupine_85: thanks for the info
[03:29] <POVaddct> bushel: then don't expect it to run flawlessly and don't expect it to run after you changed the kernel version. softmodems require closed source drivers provided from their manufacturers because they are not willing to give programming information to the open source community.
[03:29] <lupine_85> winmodems--
[03:29] <jethro> have a good day everyone, merry xmas and happy new year.
[03:30] <POVaddct> winmodems are broken by design.
[03:30] <hope13> !gcc
[03:30] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:31] <POVaddct> lupine_85: yeah, would be better
[03:31] <pianoboy3333> Anyone here good with mencoder? How could I put four VOB files together, and transcode them to an avi file, and also starting it at 2:00 minutes into the first vob file, and stopping 6:00 min into the second vob file?
[03:31] <POVaddct> lupine_85: uuids only for removable disks
[03:31] <bushel> i know thaT WINMOD: are not the best choice but it would be bad if the linux experience ends allready at the stuopid modem
[03:31] <jatt> (uuids in /etc/fstab suck)
[03:32] <POVaddct> jatt: fortunately we dont have to use it
[03:32] <bushel> i found a driver on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/Intel537EP
[03:32] <vleon> you forgot about me
[03:32] <POVaddct> jatt: edgy still accepts /dev/hdX or /dev/sdX in fstab
[03:33] <jatt> POVaddct: at least the dapper->edgy upgrade changed my /etc/fstab to use uuids (I don't remember if the upgrade asked to update the /etc/fstab file)
[03:33] <bushel> but they say after unpack that i have to 'make' and ... differnt comands butr if i just put make into the terminal nothing happens
[03:33] <lupine_85> bushel: you need to be in the source dir, I'd imagine
[03:33] <jatt> POVaddct: nice to know edgy accepts the old device names. I will adjust them now (I thought if I change them the mount would fail)
[03:34] <crouic6> tu sais me le prendre
[03:34] <crouic6> mon fichier
[03:34] <bushel> sso that would be the _source to the file+make?
[03:35] <LoRez> how do you get ubuntu to update the possible resolutions from a new monitor?
[03:35] <POVaddct> jatt: no edgy (or udev to be precise) also has to keep the standard kernel names for devices. things like /dev/disk/by-uuid/ are just optional symlinks.
[03:37] <POVaddct> jatt: udev is nice, however i dont like the idea of having to run a daemon (udevd) for getting important device nodes
[03:37] <un_operateur> the whole uuid thing messed up feisty after i upgraded up to linux 2.6.20 the other day, It looked like the UUID for grub's root partition was a dangling-symlink
[03:38] <doggyguard> slt
[03:39] <ruben> Hi, wich term like 'xterm' or something like this suppot underscore support like foo@dom$ _ <--cursor here, any idea?
[03:40] <un_operateur> ruben, all you have to do is edit your ~/.bashrc file and modify the value for PS1
[03:40] <ruben> for the cursor??
[03:40] <un_operateur> ruben, it has nothing to do with xterm or any other shell, it has to do with how PS1 is defined
[03:40] <ruben> how? tell me :)
[03:41] <ruben> Are you sure?
[03:41] <un_operateur> ruben,  at your terminal, type out -- gedit ~/.bashrc
[03:41] <ruben> yes
[03:41] <linopil> \o
[03:41] <un_operateur> search for the line that defines PS1 and add a space at the end before '
[03:42] <edi> Hello.  Do you know of a live ubuntu CD that boots on the iMac?
[03:42] <un_operateur> ruben, e.g. PS1='\u@\h:\w \$ '
[03:42] <johan_> i downloaded ubuntu desktop to install and i end up with a live cd
[03:42] <Viaken> edi: The Mac boot cd?
[03:42] <edi> Viaken: where can I find it?
[03:42] <linopil> can I burn copy edgy eft install CD in newly installed system immediately after basic install? how? nautilus?
[03:42] <johan_> can you send me a link for regular cd install of ubuntu 6.10
[03:43] <ruben> yes, but I want to add a blink cursor like PS1='\u@\h:\w \$ ' plus $ _ <-- cursor like this
[03:43] <ruben> you known?
[03:43] <linopil> on default install fonts are small for 15 inch how to enlarge all
[03:43] <Viaken> edi: Do you want Dapper or Edgy?
[03:44] <edi> Viaken: the latest development would be fine.
[03:44] <linopil> where are desktop themes for enlarging like in MS win  large fonts extra ;arge fonts
[03:44] <funkyHat> Does anyone else have a problem with evolution not marking ANY messages as junk by itself?
[03:44] <un_operateur> ruben, I'm not sure whether i follow you -- do you want to change how your prompt looks or enable the cursor to blink?
[03:45] <johan_> where can i find an install cd of ubuntu
[03:45] <grimboy> Is it just me or is rhythmbox really crappy at burning CDs?
[03:45] <ruben> enable to cursor to blink and underscore :) _
[03:45] <grimboy> johan_, Do you mean one already burnt?
[03:45] <mborg> i've been running ubuntu for a few weeks now, and everything is fine except for the fact that it takes several attempts to successfully login. has anyone had a similar problem?
[03:45] <funkyHat> linopil, System > Preferences > Font, click Details and change the DPI setting
[03:46] <linopil> tyvm funkyHat
[03:46] <r_rehashed> i tried to re-install grub, but i get an error that says `error in parsing string'. the command was, root (sd0, 6)
[03:46] <johan_> no i'd like to download a version of ubuntu for hd install
[03:46] <un_operateur> ruben, I think you need the manpage for your particular term .. if you use xterm -- man xterm
[03:46] <grimboy> mborg, Try shortening your password.
[03:46] <un_operateur> ruben, or if you use aterm, etc -- man aterm
[03:46] <omghelp> when i make gnome panel autohide.. theres a little still visible when its in hidden mode.. how can i make it fully hidden?
[03:46] <johan_> my plan is to download then burn
[03:46] <ruben> yes, but it is not possible with xterm :(
[03:46] <lovloss> where would i go to find out how to program something in c++ that would compile into something that would pop up in gnome. LIke you know, just a  box that says "hi". im really new...
[03:47] <grimboy> johan_, The official website has images on it.
[03:47] <Viaken> edi: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download?action=show&redirect=download
[03:47] <barata> hallo,anybody has problem with dapper, beryl & 915resolution?
[03:47] <Viaken> edi: Just pick the one for "Apple Mac"
[03:47] <omghelp> when i make gnome panel autohide.. theres a little still visible when its in hidden mode.. how can i make it fully hidden?
[03:47] <johan_> yes but i can only find live cds
[03:47] <un_operateur> ruben, I use urxvt or rxvt-unicode  and it does it -- maybe you want to try it out
[03:47] <hastesaver> johan_,  http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[03:47] <barata> do you use beryl and it freezes your app?
[03:47] <froud> which is the best recomended groupware solution to install on ubunty dapper
[03:47] <barata> you cannot move your stuffs like that?
[03:47] <johan_> i mean the ones i've downloaded bootup into a desktop that run on the cd
[03:47] <grimboy> johan_, The livecds have an install capability
[03:47] <johan_> i havent find install cd
[03:47] <grimboy> johan_, You boot off them then install.
[03:47] <hastesaver> johan_, that's the default one that installs
[03:47] <Bonzodog> omghelp: you can't
[03:48] <lovloss> johan_: They are the same thing =) its on the boot's desktop
[03:48] <hastesaver> johan_, there's an Install icon on the desktop after it boots
[03:48] <johan_> sorry i did not know that
[03:48] <Bonzodog> that is as hidden as it goes
[03:48] <mborg> grimboy, that seems relatively odd that I would have to shorten my password. it isn't that i can't get into gnome, its just that it kicks me back to the login page after a few seconds of loading.
[03:48] <omghelp> Bonzodog:  =(
[03:48] <agorf> hello. is there a way to restore ubuntu's fstab as it is after the installation?
[03:48] <edi> Viaken: If I understand right, that is a PowerPC distribution, but my computer is not PPC, it's an Intel iMac.
[03:48] <grimboy> mborg, Oh
[03:48] <un_operateur> barata, AFAIK, ubuntu does not officially support groupware .. so this is a question that applies to all linuxes, you must install the application from source
[03:48] <lovloss> no one knows? is there a chat room for c++ users in gnome? anything?
[03:48] <SubMOA> HAHA! First IRC message.  Sorry.
[03:48] <lovloss> google's not being my friend
[03:48] <johan_> but if i do that install it dont ask me to provide a root passwd
[03:48] <grimboy> mborg, I've not had that problem no. What programs do you run at startup.
[03:48] <johan_> so i installed then i'm screwed
[03:49] <grimboy> !root
[03:49] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:49] <grimboy> !root | johan_
[03:49] <ubotu> johan_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:49] <un_operateur> lovloss, have you asked in ##c++
[03:49] <un_operateur> ?
[03:49] <johan_> but sudo ask for a passwd
[03:49] <johan_> ?
[03:49] <linopil> how to find out in what repo is certain program ??
[03:49] <funkyHat> johan_, yes, YOUR password :)
[03:49] <adaptr> obviously, yesd
[03:49] <grimboy> johan_, Sudo asks for your users password
[03:49] <un_operateur> johan_, it's asking your password
[03:49] <lovloss> un_operateur: its called ##c++ ?
[03:49] <Bonzodog> johan_: the sudo pass for the livecd is ubuntu
[03:49] <johan_> i see
[03:49] <linopil> exmple what repo to use for xchat
[03:50] <mborg> grimboy, my startup is stock.
[03:50] <lovloss> ok ill ask
[03:50] <hastesaver> lovloss, something like this? zenity  --question --title "Alert"  --text "Microsoft Windows has been found! Would you like to remove it?"
[03:50] <un_operateur> lovloss, you are looking for gtk/gnome dev channels right?
[03:50] <grimboy> mborg, So you haven't installed any applications?
[03:50] <grimboy> mborg, That shove stuff at startup
[03:50] <infinito> has anyone problems with blank cd recognition on edgy? i can't burn cds...
[03:50] <mborg> grimboy, just lampp which i have to start in the terminal anyway...
[03:50] <Bonzodog> lovloss: gnome uses C not C++
[03:50] <johan_> i works!
[03:51] <johan_> it works rather
[03:51] <funkyHat> johan_, of course it does ;-)
[03:51] <grimboy> mborg, In that case I have no idea. Sorry
[03:51] <mborg> no worries
[03:51] <funkyHat> We'd all be a bit stuck if it didn't
[03:51] <vleon> ok lets try again, it seems that i have problems with my gnome, for example when i update my apllications menu with menu layout, it is updated only after a restart, also when i use my gnome and the log off and log back in some part of the interface arent loaded like the upper and lower bar, and or the wallpaper. also when i change my session to a full terminal one (by pressing ctrl + alt + F1) i get a screen with lots of colors and no te
[03:51] <vleon>  rminal
[03:51] <un_operateur> Bonzodog, there are gtk/gnome bindings for every imaginable programming language out there
[03:51] <un_operateur> Bonzodog, I think the C++ one is gtkmm or something like that
[03:52] <Bonzodog> un_operateur: yes, but in the greater majority of cases, C is the main language
[03:52] <funkyHat> Does anyone else have a problem with evolution not marking ANY messages as junk by itself?
[03:52] <fulldisclosure> Hi.
[03:52] <fulldisclosure> Is here someone with bluetooth? please.
[03:52] <reiki> if I have a drive that already has WinXP on it, can I just stick it in this system and tell grub where it is? Or..... I've been reading stuff that seems to indicate that winxp wants to be on the first physical drive (and I don't use it enough to give it that)
[03:52] <johan_> i am very impressed by ubuntu
[03:52] <adaptr> fulldisclosure: mine are white-ish, sorry
[03:52] <fulldisclosure> I have gnome 2.14 in debian etch installed in a Macbook, I installed bluez-utils and bluez-gnome, I can find my debian system with the phone, but I cant transfer files.
[03:52] <fulldisclosure>  It fails, what can be the posible reasons?
[03:53] <un_operateur> Bonzodog, the gtk libraries libgtk* were written in C .. but a majority of desktop applications use pygtk
[03:53] <SubMOA> opps... turns out, "Ctrl + X" isn't "cut"
[03:53] <Bonzodog> yeah, I personally think that python is the way tyo go with Gtk apps
[03:53] <edi> fulldisclosure: what CD did you use to boot on the macbook? I'm trying to boot ubuntu on an iMac unsuccessfully
[03:53] <un_operateur> Bonzodog, thats only if you can think like python programmers (who think quite obscurely) :)
[03:54] <SubMOA> well I don't want to interrupt anybodies conversation, but can I ask a question?
[03:54] <fulldisclosure> edi, I have debian etch and ubuntu edgy installed without any problem, IRDA, bluetooth works OK
[03:54] <Viaken> edi: Ohhhhh Intel...ok...well, have you tried a PC CD?
[03:54] <un_operateur> !anybody | SubMOA
[03:54] <ubotu> SubMOA: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:54] <fulldisclosure> But with kde not in gnome, where I need something I dont know.
[03:54] <fulldisclosure> :-)
[03:54] <SubMOA> roger
[03:54] <funkyHat> edi, which iMac are you trying to boot ubuntu on?
[03:54] <edi> Viaken: yes, but it doesn't boot, or maybe it's just me, do you know of any special procedure?
[03:54] <fulldisclosure> edi, Macbook hardware is 100% supported in linux.
[03:55] <edi> funkyHat: iMac 20, Core Duo (not 2).
[03:55] <Viaken> edi: No idea. Haven't touched a Mac in years. :P
[03:55] <linopil> in keyboard options what is third group?
[03:55] <IdleOne> edi,  insert the cd restart the machine and hold down the C while it's booting
[03:55] <light_> why can't i add unallocated disk space to my EXT3 ubuntu partition (its a primary partition)? (using gparted live cd)
[03:55] <fulldisclosure> Yes, do that.
[03:55] <fulldisclosure> :-)
[03:55] <IdleOne> the ubuntu live cd will start up :)
[03:55] <Viaken> light_: If I remember right, you basically have to convert to ext2, resize it, then convert it back.
[03:55] <edi> Alright.  It never got past some stage here, but I'll try again.
[03:56] <funkyHat> light_, you can only change the end point of an ext3 partition I believe (and not the start point)
[03:56] <dint> light: I use Ubuntu live CD. GParted don't work. I don't know why. I was created new /home partition in my existing EXT3.
[03:56] <un_operateur> SubMOA, were you going to ask a question? :)
[03:56] <fulldisclosure> I have gnome 2.14 in debian etch installed in a Macbook, I installed bluez-utils and bluez-gnome, I can find my debian system with the phone, but I cant transfer files.
[03:56] <fulldisclosure>  It fails, what can be the posible reasons?
[03:56] <light_> Viaken, oh.. does this process have any side effects on my system?
[03:56] <SubMOA> I am a recent covert to Linux from Windows (what else?) and I think I have an understanding of the Windows concept regarding programs (aka .exe files) but this Linux program thing is killing me... there are so many that do the same thing, is a .deb the same as a compiled .src (is .src right??) in .deb, what about non-debian, etc. etc. what's the dealio?
[03:57] <Viaken> light_: funkyHat sounds like he knows more than I do. :P lol
[03:57] <nickspoon> SubMOA: to install applications in Linux, go to Add/Remove... in your Applications menu.
[03:57] <edi> Can I convert a mac-formatted 15Gb partition to ext3 from the live CD then?
[03:57] <un_operateur> SubMOA, a .deb file is more like a .zip file .. but it has a executable file (like .exe in windows-speak) within that is run after the .deb is unpacked
[03:57] <FunnyLookinHat> SubMOA, well, a .deb is a debian package file....  so it's basically like an installation file
[03:57] <Bonzodog> SubMOA: linux uses .bin for a binary prog
[03:57] <funkyHat> Viaken, I often give that impression, but I'm not sure it's correct a lot of the time ;)
[03:57] <yuesefa> hi, how could i open a new port for telnet?
[03:58] <hastesaver> SubMOA, everything is originally from source (there are no .src files, though -- source files are in C or C++ or Java or Python or whatever). The .deb files are *precompiled* binaries for Debian/Ubuntu, etc.
[03:58] <adaptr> yuesefa: how do you mean ?
[03:58] <lupine_85> yuesefa: use ssh if you can
[03:58] <Bonzodog> .deb is a complete package file, containing libraries and everything needed for the prog
[03:58] <lupine_85> telnet is incredibly insecure
[03:58] <nickspoon> Bonzodog: Linux doesn't have an extension for a binary. if it's set to executable, it can run it.
[03:58] <lupine_85> Bonzodog: sort of :)
[03:58] <flossy> where do i tell ubuntu to install grub, if i want to keep XP:s bootloader?
[03:58] <SubMOA> True, true I have figured that out (after a LONG time) but I find that if I want something NOT in that list, say... Umm, well, I don't know, maybe something like gkrellm, and I can't, or the repository doesn't find it, what then?
[03:58] <un_operateur> Bonzodog, a binary executable does not necessarily have to have a .bin extention .. infact you dont even need an extention in unix files
[03:58] <hastesaver> SubMOA, and linux normally doesn't care about extensions. It infers the type from the file, where possible
[03:58] <un_operateur> s/files/filenames/
[03:58] <hastesaver> SubMOA, add more repositories. That usually works
[03:58] <nickspoon> SubMOA: have you added the multiverse and universe repositories?
[03:59] <lupine_85> Bonzodog: what you've described is a MacOS .dmg -- packages can have dependencies to libraries, but they don't usually have the libraries inside them
[03:59] <Gigs2> My coworker took my monitor and replaced it with a wide screen one.  I got X to work at the native 1600x1050 but the fonts look like total shit, and the screen is too large vertically.
[03:59] <SubMOA> yes, Nickspoon
[03:59] <Bonzodog> lupine_85: yeah, just realiosed that
[03:59] <nickspoon> SubMOA: gkrellm is in the repository.
[03:59] <SubMOA> ohh
[03:59] <funkyHat> SubMOA, the simplest way of thinking about it is that the difference between .deb/.bin/.rpm/.tgz etc. is much the same as the difference between .exe/.msi/.zip
[03:59] <FunnyLookinHat> Gigs2, try     sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:59] <barata> so ... nobody uses beryl?
[04:00] <nickspoon> SubMOA: try System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager
[04:00] <Gigs2> FunnyLookinHat: I did that, that's how I got it to 1600x1050
[04:00] <nickspoon> barata: me.
[04:00] <un_operateur> funkyHat, depends whether the .exe is a self-extracting/executable archive or not :)
[04:00] <FunnyLookinHat> barata, I do, but the best place to ask xgl/compiz/beryl questions is #ubuntu-xgl
[04:00] <linopil> funny
[04:00] <hastesaver> barata,  #ubuntu-xgl might be more helpful, maybe
[04:00] <funkyHat> SubMOA, , essentially they fulfull the same purpose, just in different ways, some better than others
[04:00] <SubMOA> well, that was just an example *blushes* I thought it wasn't... I found a .deb for it, and I can kind-of get along with getting programs, I just odn't understand the way it works, I suppose
[04:00] <funkyHat> un_operateur, I don't care ;)
[04:00] <yuesefa> i have a server running on port 2999 and i can not telnet. Error message => telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[04:00] <FunnyLookinHat> Gigs2, ooh,   then you need to do   sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontsmanager  ( i think that's it, hold on)
[04:00] <hastesaver> SubMOA, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement
[04:00] <edi> funkyHat, IdleOne - do you know if I can (and how to) re-format a mac-formatted 15Gb partition of the main hard drive to EXT3 on the livecd ?
[04:01] <linopil> havant noticed ubuntu versions' numbers bear the year and month of release
[04:01] <Gigs2> I dont' have a package named that, FunnyLookinHat
[04:01] <nickspoon> SubMOA: unlike on Windows, applications are managed by a central package manager and are downloaded from trusted repositories.
[04:01] <un_operateur> funkyHat, well, if you are going to analogise something for someone, you shouldnt get them have the impression that every .exe is an archive :) because they arent
[04:01] <FunnyLookinHat> Gigs2, sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig
[04:01] <adaptr> yuesefa: too many factors to list; firewall, where does it run, do you have access at all, are you using telnet properly
[04:01] <hastesaver> SubMOA, I'm usually happy with the things in the repos... In nearly three years of using Ubuntu, I've only had to compile a program from source *once*
[04:01] <nickspoon> you use the package manager (say, Synaptic) to search the repositories and install packages.
[04:01] <linopil> #ubuntu-xgl is very helpful
[04:01] <yuesefa> adaptr: http is ok
[04:01] <Bonzodog> yuesefa: do you have ssh enabled on the server? what does it run?
[04:01] <funkyHat> un_operateur, good point :)
[04:01] <SubMOA> Funkyhat, is it the case though, in windows, where only a .exe file can be run, where-as a a .zip is a .exe, but compressed (well, any file compressed, but for sake of argument...) etc. etc.  so the main executable is, well, .exe, right?
[04:01] <nickspoon> SubMOA: what is it that you want to install that isn't in the repository?
[04:02] <linopil> look for lupine and price at #ubuntu-xgl
[04:02] <SubMOA> maybe I just don't understand the actual basics of programs... any points to wiki, etc.?
[04:02] <nickspoon> !apps
[04:02] <ubotu> A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[04:02] <adaptr> yuesefa: still no idea what you mean - how about you try to explain what exactly the problem is ? are you trying to set up a HTTP server, or a telnet server, or telnetting TO an HTTP server, or *what*
[04:02] <yuesefa> bonzodog: just a little test . a simple web server
[04:02] <SubMOA> hastesaver, really?! that is encouraging
[04:02] <nickspoon> !repos
[04:02] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[04:02] <drivera90> Anyone know what makes Firefox default to .ar Google?
[04:02] <lupine_85> SubMOA: .exe does not an executable make
[04:02] <ken> Can ubuntu's archive manager support the 7-zip format? If yes, how do i enable it without using 3rd party/proprietary software?
[04:02] <hastesaver> SubMOA, read the link I gave above: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware
[04:02] <Bonzodog> so the web server is running Ubuntu?
[04:02] <lupine_85> magic bytes at the beginnning of the file, doth make an executable
[04:03] <yuesefa> adaptr: telnetting to a socket server
[04:03] <lupine_85> in windows (PE executables) those magic bytes are MZ
[04:03] <hastesaver> SubMOA, oops, I meant https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement first
[04:03] <adaptr> yuesefa: a *what* socket server
[04:03] <yuesefa> Bonzodog: yup
[04:03] <Bonzodog> Linux servers don't accept telnet
[04:03] <SubMOA> nickspoon, thus far, nothing (that I can think of), but I like to understand things, and I have this sort of anxiety that, if for some reaon, I had to get something that wasn't there, i wouldn't know how
[04:03] <Bonzodog> they use sshd
[04:03] <adaptr> Bonzodog: stop talking out of your rear end please
[04:03] <lupine_85> in Linux (ELF, a.out, pretty much anything), EL4 or #! are magic bytes
[04:03] <Bonzodog> you need to ssh in
[04:03] <yuesefa> adaptr: ruby's Gserver
[04:03] <un_operateur> lupine_85, would you classify a shell-script or batch file as executable? :)
[04:03] <Roconda> hey I killed esd and artsd but I got still "open /dev/[sound/] dsp: Device or resource busy"
[04:03] <SubMOA> Lupine_85, can you elaborate?
[04:03] <lupine_85> Bonzodog: what services they are running is the important thing
[04:03] <nickspoon> SubMOA: well, if it isn't there, you need to find the website of what you want to installl.
[04:03] <Gigs2> is there any way to just exit X?   I don't understand why I have to reboot this constantly like windows.  My system is already set to runlevel 2 as default.
[04:03] <yuesefa> Bonzodog: i will try that
[04:04] <francisco> yuesefa, you'll need to install sshd or dropbear
[04:04] <adaptr> yuesefa: okay, now we're getting somewhere - and what network protocol does that use ?
[04:04] <lupine_85> un_operateur: well, yes. They have the magic bytes: #!
[04:04] <nickspoon> SubMOA: download a .deb.
[04:04] <nickspoon> Gigs2: ctrl-alt-backspace
[04:04] <Gigs2> that'll just bring up that african xdm thing though
[04:04] <lupine_85> the permissions are secondary to whether the file can be executred
[04:04] <Bonzodog> Linux servers mostly don't accept telnet connections, due to it being inherently insecure
[04:04] <Roconda> hey I killed esd and artsd but I got still "open /dev/[sound/] dsp: Device or resource busy"
[04:04] <un_operateur> lupine_85, a shell script has a she-bang .. but a batch-file hath not :)
[04:04] <yuesefa> adaptr: telnet localhost 2999 is fine. but telnet 192.168.2.33 2999 is not
[04:04] <nickspoon> Gigs2: it restarts X.
[04:04] <Gigs2> nickspoon: ok
[04:04] <Bonzodog> but you can set it up so it does
[04:04] <JosefK> for the person asking how programs work, http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/1059
[04:04] <SubMOA> nickspoon, what if there isn't one?
[04:04] <adaptr> yuesefa: does the server actually listen on that IP ?
[04:05] <ken> lupine_85: un_operateur: Can ubuntu's archive manager support the 7-zip format? If yes, how do i enable it without using 3rd party/proprietary software?
[04:05] <nickspoon> SubMOA: next you look for an rpm then.
[04:05] <adaptr> un_operateur: nonsense
[04:05] <lupine_85> un_operateur: true. A batch file is just an ugly hack though, really ;)
[04:05] <hastesaver> SubMOA, Order of preference: 1. Get it from the Ubuntu repos 2. Find an unoffical repo that has it. 3. Download a .deb, if there is one. 4. Download the source code (.tar.gz), and compile it yourself and install (preferably with checkinstall). Read those pages; these may not make sense yet :-)
[04:05] <yuesefa> adaptr: yup. that is my ip
[04:05] <nickspoon> SubMOA: if there's an rpm, convert it with alien.
[04:05] <lupine_85> !7zip
[04:05] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[04:05] <lupine_85> meh
[04:05] <SubMOA> nickspoon, what happens when I try to compile something, but, say gdk 2.0 (I think that one actually happened to me... gdk 2.0 wasn't in the repo) is needed and I can't get it, not sure what to do then
[04:05] <nickspoon> !rpm
[04:05] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[04:05] <un_operateur> ken, 7 zip isnt quite widely used -- it more for your personal use ATM
[04:05] <un_operateur> adaptr, ?
[04:05] <lovloss> Is there a specific "widget" program for making gnome programs that works well with ubuntu? Is one maybe ina package?
[04:05] <x-r00t-x> hello can anyone tell me where do i have to put the c++ library files?
[04:05] <lupine_85> ken: you need to install the 7zip unarchiver software in the repos; file-roller etc. will then support it automagically
[04:06] <SubMOA> hastesaver, will do, thank you
[04:06] <Roconda> hey I killed esd and artsd but I got still "open /dev/[sound/] dsp: Device or resource busy"
[04:06] <SubMOA> nickspoon, what's an rpm
[04:06] <nickspoon> SubMOA: redhat package.
[04:06] <SubMOA> something about a packet manager, i would assume
[04:06] <SubMOA> ohh
[04:06] <ken> un_operateur: lupine_85: thank you, you guys are always a great help! Happy UBUNT-ing
[04:06] <ken> :-)
[04:06] <adaptr> un_operateur: a batch shell file needs a shebang line as well if you intend to execute it
[04:06] <lovloss> ^_^
[04:06] <un_operateur> adaptr, no it doesnt
[04:06] <nickspoon> SubMOA: if there's not an RPM or DEB, look for a binary. if there's no binary, download the source and follow the instructions.
[04:07] <un_operateur> adaptr, a batch-file just need a .bat/.cmd extention in the filename to become a batch file
[04:07] <SubMOA> nickspoon, i just read the ubotu that ubuntu doesn't really support rpm's
[04:07] <adaptr> yuesefa: that's not what I asked - what is the output of netstat ?
[04:07] <hastesaver> SubMOA, And when you get the source, here's how to compile it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[04:07] <SubMOA> rgr nickspoon
[04:07] <adaptr> un_operateur: we are talking about Unix shells here, yes ?
[04:07] <un_operateur> adaptr, there are no equivalents to she-bangs in the windows world
[04:07] <SubMOA> wow, you guys rock!
[04:07] <hastesaver> SubMOA, but you shouldn't need to do that, normally
[04:07] <un_operateur> adaptr, no, just in general :)
[04:08] <lupine_85> adaptr: DOS .bat files :)
[04:08] <adaptr> un_operateur: no you weren't - you cannot name shebang and batch file in the same sentence without qualifying them when you mean two completely different OSes
[04:08] <SubMOA> hastesaver, ok, well, I guess I just need to fart around a little with it
[04:08] <funkyHat> SubMOA, if you're looking for a program make sure the first place you look for it after synaptic is on the ubuntu wiki, someone else might have made a nice set of instructions for how to install it easily
[04:08] <nickspoon> SubMOA: well, not really, but I've converted many RPMs to DEB with alien and nothing's gone wrong.
[04:08] <lupine_85> adaptr, un_operateur: in that case, the command interpreter has been evilly hacked to support them. what else is new with MS? ;)
[04:08] <SubMOA> funkyhat, thank you, i will do that
[04:09] <un_operateur> adaptr, we were talking executables in general .. not tied to a specific OS or shell .. :)
[04:09] <Fujoor> hey guys, need some advice, is there any difference in speed with xubuntu/ubuntu edgy or dapper drake?
[04:09] <SubMOA> nickspoon, rgr, but i heard that alien is "dangerous"
[04:09] <Gigs2> FunnyLookinHat: I tried reconfiguting fontconfig like you said, fonts still look like total crap.  I installed the 100 dpi fonts package too, no help.
[04:09] <ken> lupine_85: un_operateur: What is the archive method that compresses the MOST and is the most reliable and you use for your personal use?
[04:09] <nickspoon> SubMOA: by the way, when you're compiling, if it asks for, say 'libgtk2.0', you want the package 'libgtk2.0-dev'.
[04:09] <fransth> anyone can help my i915 bugs?
[04:09] <SubMOA> btw, it's been years since I've been in a "chat-room" (it was AOL) and I must say, I've lost my touch for keeping up with all the chatter!!!
[04:09] <adaptr> un_operateur: oh forget it - it's xmas and I tend to get confused easily :)
[04:09] <JosefK> ken, that depends on what you're trying to compress
[04:09] <hastesaver> SubMOA, I've never had to get anything from an rpm... so the cases you're worrying about are actually extreme cases
[04:09] <FunnyLookinHat> Gigs2, that's very strange...       try searching ubuntuforums.org for high res fonts?
[04:09] <un_operateur> ken, 7zip was rated at the top sometime ago, i dunno if it still stands
[04:09] <SubMOA> nickspoon, can you elaborate?
[04:10] <johan_> i used gparted to format my hd and did two ext3 partition one 50gig one 500 mg
[04:10] <linopil> in keyboard preferences what is the differences and origin of meta super hyper?
[04:10] <linopil> which one is closer to winlogo key functions?
[04:10] <funkyHat> SubMOA, it's 'dangerous' relatively speaking, it's more dangerous than using a .deb, but possibly still better than using a .bin or something else
[04:10] <lupine_85> ken: I use bz2
[04:10] <nickspoon> SubMOA: on compiling?
[04:10] <ken> JosefK: But i dont want to use specific compression algortihms for different file types, just a general one
[04:10] <SubMOA> hastesaver, ok
[04:10] <johan_> but i cant used them to install
[04:10] <SubMOA> hastesaver, i will keep that in mind
[04:10] <hastesaver> SubMOA, if you're using a decent chat client like xchat, stuff sent to you will be highlighted in red; easier to follow :-)
[04:10] <lupine_85> funkyHat: in general, .bin is a better bet than rpm IME
[04:10] <un_operateur> adaptr, I was half-joking with lupine_85 anyway .. just to pull his leg .. same christmas spirit thingy :)
[04:10] <JosefK> ken, in that case I tend to use bz2
[04:10] <johan_> what format should i use for swap and root
[04:10] <mborg> has anyone had login issues that they have narrowed down to a change of the transparency and size of the panel?
[04:10] <SubMOA> hastesaver, I think it's more the self sufficiency I'm worried about, however, at this stage, that should be the least of my problems.
[04:10] <Gigs2> maybe this cable is crappy
[04:11] <lupine_85> since the .bin will (usually) be made to support more than one OS, whereas .rpm assume they're going to be isntalled on $rpm_distro
[04:11] <Gigs2> if I take a screen shot the fonts look ok
[04:11] <SubMOA> hastesaver, rgr, xchat
[04:11] <ken> lupine_85: i found 'p7zip' and 'p7zip-full' from Synaptic (for 7-zip), but i think installing those will install a separate software, i just want a plugin sort of thing for the file archiver. What should i do?
[04:11] <SubMOA> still lots of info
[04:11] <lupine_85> ken: they *are* the plugin-sort-of-thing
[04:11] <SubMOA> nickspoon, not sure
[04:11] <SubMOA> i just heard it was "dangerous" by the ubotu
[04:11] <funkyHat> lupine_85, ahh ok, I tend to shy away from using .bin because of the obvious implications of running untrusted code as root ;) (I know it's easy enough to put malicious code in an rpm or a deb too but still)
[04:11] <lupine_85> file-roller won't work with tar if you install tar, etc
[04:11] <un_operateur> lupine_85, specifics within the .bin could make it distro-exclusive too .. :)
[04:12] <lupine_85> erm, uninstall
[04:12] <lupine_85> un_operateur: true, I was talking about generalities
[04:12] <IdleOne> SubMOA, rpm may break your system as they arent made for ubuntu. ubuntu uses .deb
[04:12] <nickspoon> SubMOA: it can be, sometimes. they rarely are though.
[04:12] <un_operateur> lupine_85, and some .rpm's arent exclusive to $rpm_distros too :)
[04:12] <xnet> hello
[04:12] <lupine_85> e.g. I'd rather use the nvidia .run file than a conversion of a .rpm package
[04:12] <adaptr> lupine_85: this is ubuntu - use the package
[04:12] <SubMOA> idleone, is there a link you can supply as to the differences... or anyone for that matter, why does one break a system and the other not?
[04:12] <lupine_85> but for something like lazarus... yeah, the rpms aliened work fine
[04:13] <lupine_85> adaptr: look up "example" in a dictionary
[04:13] <xnet> how can i setup java SE 6.0, the file type is bin??
[04:13] <SubMOA> brb
[04:13] <lupine_85> xnet: that should be in the repos too :)
[04:13] <funkyHat> lupine_85, Isn't there a nvidia-glx deb?
[04:13] <SubMOA> (can I still use that?!)
[04:13] <un_operateur> xnet, run the .bin file .. chmod a+x ./file.bin; sudo ./bin
[04:13] <adaptr> lupine_85: if you don't want criticism, don't spout unqualified opinions
[04:13] <lupine_85>  "example"
[04:13] <MrMaDSeN> lupine_85, noooo dont
[04:13] <MrMaDSeN> hehe
[04:13] <auli> i can't find autopoint on ubuntu-5.10, i know it's part of gettext, and i have the latest (available in synaptic) version = 0.14.5-2ubuntu2
[04:13] <un_operateur> xnet, err, sorry .. chmod a+x ./file.bin; sudo ./file.bin
[04:14] <MrMaDSeN> where do I set system default language?
[04:14] <lupine_85> I'd rather use the .deb file than the .run file, but that wasn't the point I was making
[04:14] <ken> lupine_85: un_operateur: I wish to buy a PC for general purpose work, and i wish to buy those processor/MBD/etc, things that best work with linux (are favouring it). So can you tell me, companies (intel/amd/etc) to stay away from, and ones to prefer? It will only use ubuntu, so i want something that is inherently compatible.
[04:14] <slain_> hi all
[04:14] <slain_> I love linux :-)
[04:14] <ken> lupine_85: un_operateur: It will be all assembledd
[04:14] <SubMOA> me, too slain
[04:14] <hastesaver> SubMOA, basically, the author of a program writes source code, and if you get a .deb (especially from the repos), you can be very sure somehow has carefully compiled it with the right options to make it work on your system.  With binaries, and RPMs, there's no way to be sure.
[04:14] <dedalus> hi is there anyone using dynamics clock on ati card cause my autonomy is really bad
[04:14] <funkyHat> SubMOA, rpm is more likely to mess things up in an ubuntu system because the rpm wasn't written to work on that system in the first place, whereas the deb file probably was
[04:14] <auli> shoudl i compile gettext in a separate directory and use autopoint from that?
[04:14] <IdleOne> SubMOA,  it's like using diesel in a unleaded fuel only car. it will run but it prolly will F everything up :)
[04:14] <JosefK> hastesaver, unless it's a Debian .deb, or depends on a different libc
[04:14] <SubMOA> hastesaver, hmmm... ok
[04:15] <lupine_85> ken: Intel for the graphics, since they're open source.
[04:15] <un_operateur> ken, since it's going to be assembled, it'd be best that you compare your itenary against a linux hardware compatibility database :)
[04:15] <SubMOA> idleone, nicely put, good sir
[04:15] <SubMOA> or ma'am
[04:15] <funkyHat> IdleOne, there's no way diesel will run in an unleaded fuel car ;)
[04:15] <SubMOA> so is that a kde vs. gnome thing?
[04:15] <ken> lupine_85: You mean using the on-board intel graphic acceleretars?
[04:15] <lupine_85> unless you want incredible graphics performance, of course :p
[04:15] <IdleOne> funkyHat,  it got the point accross
[04:15] <nickspoon> IdleOne: I know we love our car analogies, but that's not quite right really.
[04:16] <ken> un_operateur: i was hoping for something from the top of your mind / tip of your tongue :-)
[04:16] <un_operateur> ken, in most cases, it's the peripherals that need special attention -- most other standard hardware is already supported
[04:16] <IdleOne> nickspoon, yeah I know but he now knows not to try it until he is sure he can fix it :)
[04:16] <auli> has anyone heard of gettext without autopoint on ubuntu?
[04:16] <reiki> ok... doing lots of reading. It appears that adding WinXP to a machine that already has Ubuntu (or any other linux on it) is not easy. Adding Ubuntu to an existing WINDOWS machine is easy, but not the other way around. Maybe I'll just use my swappable drive carriers. I don't often boot to XP anyways....
[04:16] <hastesaver> SubMOA, no, KDE and GNOME are fine. You can run KDE apps in GNOME perfectly fine and vice-versa. (Except that KDE apps usually won't look like GNOME apps, if you care about visual consistency)
[04:16] <slain_> hi all, quick question
[04:16] <funkyHat> True, a better analogy would be using unleaded in a 2-stroke engine, but I'm just being pedantic ;)
[04:16] <nickspoon> it's more like putting diesel into a diesel fuelled car through a garden hose.
[04:16] <slain_> I have linux box setup and working on the local lan
[04:16] <lupine_85> reiki: you can add windows; it just overwrites the bootloader, so you have to boot back into ubuntu and run grub-install to fix
[04:16] <slain_> got samba installed
[04:16] <SubMOA> hastesaver, i just want it to work, I don't care for looks... yet, wait till i'm uber, then maybe... :O)
[04:16] <lupine_85> so have a live CD and instructions on how to chroot ready :)
[04:16] <slain_> I share a folder to my friends that runs windows
[04:16] <un_operateur> ken, I'm not the person to ask about those things .. i'm not a hardware guru and I run older hardware because i dont see the need to upgrade to the latest-and-greatest :)
[04:16] <JosefK> reiki, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - it isn't so hard
[04:16] <ken> un_operateur: By peripherals you mean sound card/speakers/mouse/keyboards/monitors/etc. What should i prefer for peripherals?
[04:17] <slain_> they can see the share
[04:17] <SubMOA> funkyhat, nice word choice... pedantic... first time in a reael convo I've heard that!
[04:17] <vleon>  ok lets try again, it seems that i have problems with my gnome, for example when i update my apllications menu with menu layout, it is updated only after a restart, also when i use my gnome and the log off and log back in some part of the interface arent loaded like the upper and lower bar, and or the wallpaper. also when i change my session to a full terminal one (by pressing ctrl + alt + F1) i get a screen with lots of colors and no te
[04:17] <vleon>   rminal
[04:17] <reiki> lupine_85, I have a drive that already has a WinXP installation on it. I just wanted to slap  it into the machine :)
[04:17] <slain_> but when they try and access it, it asks them for a password
[04:17] <auli> slain_ you are sharing through samba?
[04:17] <SubMOA> nickspoon, can you elaborate on that garden hose analogy
[04:17] <funkyHat> reiki, it's easy enough, there's a page on the wiki telling you how to get grub working again after doing it...
[04:17] <slain_> yes
[04:17] <lupine_85> reiki: like I said, you can. Just make sure you have a live cd handy to reinstall GRUB
[04:17] <funkyHat> !grub | reiki
[04:17] <ubotu> reiki: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:17] <auli> slain_ i have had this problem, the way i fixed was that i created an account and shared the password
[04:18] <un_operateur> ken, mice and keybs.. are no problem .. soundcards, graphiccards, joysticks, etc are a pain
[04:18] <IdleOne> SubMOA,  it's really simple dont use rpm's on ubuntu
[04:18] <nickspoon> SubMOA: RPM-based and APT-based distros run on the same core (the engine).
[04:18] <slain_> thanks
[04:18] <slain_> will try
[04:18] <auli> slain_ i had a config fiel (smb.conf) that did the trick, the minimal config file doesn't work (i.e. typing the share, writeable guest = ok and public)
[04:18] <nickspoon> the fuel (the programs) can be run on both without any intermediate stages.
[04:18] <reiki> funkyHat, I've been reading. See... I have a system with both IDE and SATA .... just got a new SATA drive (second one) Dapper is on first SATA, was going to move Edgy to second SATA (new one) and then stick the IDE with XP on it in the swappable slot
[04:18] <sonno> I've got an issue with ubuntu 6.06
[04:19] <SubMOA> Idleone, true enough, but I think what I'm angleing (sp?) is more of a "why" then a "how" type questions
[04:19] <sonno> Anyone care to PM me?
[04:19] <SubMOA> any points in any direction would be greatly appreciated
[04:19] <nickspoon> how you give the engine the fuel is different, however.
[04:19] <lupine_85> do we really need the car analogies? IMO they're just confusing
[04:19] <SubMOA> nickspoon, hmmm
[04:19] <slain_> auli_i "guest = ok" where do I put this in smb.conf
[04:19] <ken> un_operateur: lupine_85: anyways thank you
[04:19] <reiki> diesel powered ubuntu..... efficient! :)
[04:20] <auli> slain_ under the share works, outside the share should imply that it work for all the shares
[04:20] <nickspoon> so instead of using a nozzle (a .deb) you'd be using a hosepipe (a .rpm) and piping it into your system. probably through a hosepipe->nozzle converter (alien).
[04:20] <SubMOA> lupine_85, they work ok for me, or at least I think they do... lol
[04:20] <sonno> I can't log in as root under the ctrl+alt F#s but I can with SU in X.
[04:20] <nickspoon> reiki: Ubuntu is powered by hydrogen fuel cells :)
[04:20] <malt> on my ubuntu server running apache2, does anyone know why when i installed bandwidth throttle for apache2, that the cap gets slower like every 3 days+ ? and i have to restart apache2, and the speeds will go back normal.
[04:20] <sonno> Can anyone help me out, please?
[04:21] <auli> slain_ but the guest = ok keyword doesn't work, maybe we need to change the kind of authentication scheme or something that is used
[04:21] <ken> sonno: whats the problem
[04:21] <auli> slain_ wait, let me check
[04:21] <SubMOA> nickspoon, so you want the nozzle, not the hosepipe
[04:21] <funkyHat> sonno, just log in as you and then su then
[04:21] <nickspoon> SubMOA: preferably you just want to go to the petrol station and ask the robot there to fill your car up for you.
[04:21] <sonno> I need to get into it without X.
[04:21] <hastesaver> SubMOA, the "why" is that different distros have small inconsistencies about where the libraries are stored, etc... Programs take options at compile time to account for this, but if something was compiled for another distro (like the RPM probably was), it may not plug in perfectly into Ubuntu.
[04:21] <nickspoon> that is, use a repository.
[04:21] <sonno> I'm trying to install a Nvidia driver.
[04:21] <lupine_85> SubMOA: really? Because it seems to be off to la-la land right now :p
[04:21] <SubMOA> so there is to much extra baggage that your system has to slof through with a .rpm?
[04:21] <ken> !nvidia | sonno
[04:21] <ubotu> sonno: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:22] <SubMOA> nickspoon, LMAO, nice
[04:22] <funkyHat> sonno, yes, log in as you on one of the VTs, and then sudo -i to get a root term
[04:22] <slain_> auli_ thanks for all of your help so far
[04:22] <lupine_85> sonno: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop will stop X; replace the stop with a start to start it again
[04:22] <sonno> Will it leave up this terminal, though?
[04:22] <SubMOA> lupine_85, perhaps...
[04:22] <SubMOA> :O)
[04:22] <sonno> I can't log into the fullscreen terminals that I can get to with the F#s.
[04:22] <auli> slain_ it could have to do with the "security" keyword, OR, something simple like setting the "guest account"
[04:23] <lupine_85> the main issue with rpm/deb conversion is that the scripts in each one assume that the system is set up in a certain - incompatible - manner
[04:23] <funkyHat> sonno, not even as you?
[04:23] <sonno> It tells me my password is wrong.
[04:23] <SubMOA> hastesaver, thank you, that, really, actually helped a bit... I know it seems obvious, but that's something I can use as a start to google
[04:23] <auli> slain_ when i saw that simply adding an account worked, i stopped trying
[04:23] <lupine_85> that's it. No nozzles - nothing needed.
[04:23] <SubMOA> please understand, I don't want to "use" linux, I want to master it
[04:23] <ken> lupine_85: when i stopX, i am dropped at a PURE text-based environment that asks me to login into my computer ok? So if i want to shutdown my computer from this environment without starting X, what do i do?
[04:23] <sonno> I know it's not wrong, though. I've reset it and the root passwd a few times and it won't work.
[04:23] <SubMOA> and perhaps the best way is sloffing through it, which I have been doing
[04:23] <lupine_85> ken: reboot
[04:23] <hastesaver> SubMOA, with your curiosity, just keep using it and you'll master it :-)
[04:23] <lupine_85> maybe sudo reboot
[04:24] <ken> lupine_85: simply press the 'reset' button when i get a prompt as login:****
[04:24] <SubMOA> but mailing lists anf forums can be time consuming, and being in Japan in the military, I don't have a lot of time :O)
[04:24] <MJ> Hi all, Hope someone can help me out here. Synaptic, Update manager and APT-Get are not working on my Edgy. Segmentation fault. Nothing more. What should I do?
[04:24] <lupine_85> no, type the command reboot
[04:24] <ken> lupine_85: i dont want to reboot, i want to shut it down
[04:24] <nickspoon> SubMOA: if you can't get a .deb, and want the best compatibility for your system, install from source. that'll take some time though.
[04:24] <lupine_85> or shutdown now
[04:24] <SubMOA> hastesaver, thank you for the encouragement
[04:24] <lupine_85> it's all the same
[04:24] <ken> lupine_85: ok
[04:24] <reiki> well.... for as often as I need XP, I think I'll just leave this alone and swap the boot drive in BIOS when I need it. I think I used XP twice in the last 6 months
[04:24] <SubMOA> nickspoon, what if I don't have the right decompiler
[04:24] <x-r00t-x> find: /proc/7114/task: No such file or directory
[04:24] <lupine_85> SubMOA: decompiler?
[04:24] <nickspoon> SubMOA: almost all source is either C/C++ or python.
[04:24] <x-r00t-x> find: /proc/7114/fd: No such file or directory any idea?
[04:24] <sonno> I was just making a stupid mistake.
[04:24] <SubMOA> nickspoon, i mean compiler
[04:25] <sonno> That's for the help, though.
[04:25] <lupine_85> SubMOA: then install it :p
[04:25] <lupine_85> gcc is usually all you need though
[04:25] <ken> byr
[04:25] <nickspoon> SubMOA: compilers for those are included in the packages build-essential and python.
[04:25] <nickspoon> python is installed by default anyway :)
[04:25] <lupine_85> an interesting one is fpc...
[04:25] <nickspoon> !build-essential
[04:25] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:25] <SubMOA> lol, gotcha, however today (I think it was gdk 2.0) I couldn't find a .deb (or, rather, something from the SPM directory) for a program i needed
[04:25] <lupine_85> to build it from source, you need a binary version of fpc
[04:25] <MJ> anyone?
[04:26] <auli> MJ, try reinstalling them
[04:26] <axisys> how do i read .chm file in linux?
[04:26] <irbi> gjh,
[04:26] <irbi> vjkl
[04:26] <irbi> gkujl
[04:26] <auli> MJ, use apt-get if you have to
[04:26] <nickspoon> SubMOA: libgdk is available in the repository.
[04:26] <ken> axisys: Good question!
[04:26] <lupine_85> axisys: compiled html help?
[04:26] <qeed> axisys, use xchm
[04:26] <omghelp> amarok isnt detecting when i connet my ipod... rhythmbox does.. how do i make amarok detect ipod?
[04:26] <ken> lupine_85: yes
[04:26] <MJ> auli: that's what I said. apt-get segfaults
[04:27] <SubMOA> so libgdk is the same as gdk 2.0?
[04:27] <pm2> Hi - I'm trying to run Win2k under Ubuntu linux, and so far its working pretty well.  However, when I start qemu with the argument "-smb /home/pm2/myShare", I cannot access it in Windows - even after I add the line to the lmhosts file.  This is the latest version of qemu.  Any ideas as to what I could try?
[04:27] <ken> qeed: thank you
[04:27] <lupine_85> people use that outside of window?
[04:27] <auli> MJ: reinstalling ubuntu then?
[04:27] <nickspoon> SubMOA: yes.
[04:27] <auli> MJ: it probably means that the files are corrupt
[04:27] <ken> Any of you code Java in a linux environment?
[04:27] <ken> lupine_85: yes?
[04:27] <lupine_85> MJ: does dpkg work?
[04:27] <auli> MJ: or if you can extract the package manually, do that and replace existing files
[04:27] <nickspoon> SubMOA: and to compile libgdk apps from source, you'd have to install libgdk-pixbuf-dev.
[04:27] <lupine_85> apt-get should not segfault
[04:27] <SubMOA> nickspoon, is that something you are supposed to "know" or is there someway i can figure out that it is the same thing?
[04:27] <axisys> qeed: thnx
[04:27] <SubMOA> is that a weird sounding questoin?
[04:28] <wheelswitch> ken:  yah, i do
[04:28] <nickspoon> SubMOA: just use your intuition.
[04:28] <ken> wheelswitch: what IDE/editor do you prefer?
[04:28] <wheelswitch> eclipse or drjava
[04:28] <SubMOA> nickspoon, woah, what is libgdk-pixbuf-dev?!?
[04:28] <daviey> how can i 'mv' a folder, in console?
[04:28] <MJ> lupine_85: I think it works. I never used that though, and don't know how to (  use it)
[04:28] <nickspoon> SubMOA: it's a package.
[04:28] <Viaken> Apparently feisty doesn't like me.
[04:28] <lupine_85> SubMOA: .h files mostly
[04:28] <wheelswitch> ken:  drjava is far simpler
[04:28] <ken> wheelswitch: I want a light-weight editor (i am on GNOME), what would you recommend?
[04:28] <hastesaver> Dave123, by using "mv"? :-)
[04:28] <SubMOA> nickspoon, rgr, running low on intuition, will see availability at next stop
[04:29] <lupine_85> ken: nano or gedit
[04:29] <lupine_85> nano being the most lightweight
[04:29] <SubMOA> lupine_85, .h ?
[04:29] <daviey> hastesaver, yes
[04:29] <ollekalle> Hi, I want to start a program with & not to lock my shell. I also want to grab shell output from that very program. Is this the way to go: '>myprogram > logfile.txt&'?
[04:29] <MJ> auli: is there not a more lelegant way to refresh the tree? outside of apt?
[04:29] <lupine_85> SubMOA: yes. .h
[04:29] <wheelswitch> ken try a few, what features do you want?
[04:29] <wheelswitch> emacs works too...
[04:29] <hastesaver> daviey, just do "mv directoryname newlocation"
[04:29] <ken> lupine_85: gedit is too simplistic, i want essential things like loop collapsing and methods collapsing, do you get the idea?
[04:29] <lupine_85> ken: kate does that
[04:29] <lupine_85> but it's KDE-based
[04:29] <SubMOA> lupine_85, what is that, exactly, or, rather, should I just wiki or google it?
[04:29] <hastesaver> SubMOA, you can search for it in Synaptic (the Add-Remove apps thing). Or at the commandline, with apt-cache search.
[04:29] <daviey> hastesaver, i want to 'mv * ../' but it says omitin directories
[04:29] <lupine_85> well, they're C header file
[04:29] <lupine_85> ...s
[04:30] <lupine_85> you know, files that C source references for defines, function prototypes, etc
[04:30] <Viaken> ollekalle: "program > logfile.txt &" should work.
[04:30] <ken> lupine_85: wheelswitch: suggesting vim/emacs to a windows user is a sure shot way of speeding up his departure from linux?
[04:30] <Viaken> ollekalle: Assuming you use bash, too. ;)
[04:30] <ken> lupine_85: wheelswitch: No '?' there
[04:30] <lupine_85> ken: nah
[04:30] <vleon> can someone help me?
[04:30] <ollekalle> Viaken: bash, yes :)
[04:31] <lupine_85> edgy uses dash...
[04:31] <lupine_85> silly edgy
[04:31] <SubMOA> lupine_85, what you're saying seems to make sense, but I can't pretend I understand it all... basically it's something like a library for programs written in C?
[04:31] <Viaken> lupine_85: That explains some things.
[04:31] <lupine_85> SubMOA: it's how C programs know how to interface with a library
[04:31] <SubMOA> lupine_85, oOo
[04:31] <lupine_85> the library is also written in C, usually, and uses the same header files
[04:32] <daviey> i want to 'mv * ../' but it says omiting directories
[04:32] <lupine_85> so both the program and the library have the same expectations when communicating with each other
[04:32] <Juhaz> SubMOA, the dev packages contain files needed to compile something that needs the library
[04:32] <lupine_85> daviey: how about mv * .. ?
[04:32] <daviey> lupine_85, actually i want to mv * ../xxx
[04:32] <wheelswitch> ken:  drjava is easy to use
[04:33] <SubMOA> juhaz, hmmm
[04:33] <ken> wheelswitch: drjava is not available in the official ubuntu repos
[04:33] <ken> :(
[04:33] <lupine_85> daviey: how about mv * ../xxx/ ?
[04:33] <hastesaver> daviey, I hope you have backups of everything?
[04:33] <hastesaver> is ../xxx an existing directory? Otherwise your files are probably gone :-)
[04:33] <lupine_85> although organising your pr0n is a bit... obsessive... :p
[04:34] <daviey> thanks guys, seems to be working now.  i was trying to do it with -R like rm
[04:34] <SubMOA> well, It's getting late, I have to run, I have gotten more knowledge out of this room in the short time I've been here than the last few days of scrounging around the net for stuff.  Thank you all so much for your time, I truly appreciate it and I hope to see you again!  Thanks, night!
[04:34] <wheelswitch> eclipse isnt light weight but it is extreemly powerful
[04:34] <lupine_85> KDevelop > eclipse
[04:34] <lupine_85> but yeah
[04:35] <ken> lupine_85: If i dont get some package in this case 'drjava', from ubuntu's repos where should i head to?
[04:35] <wheelswitch> have not tried that one
[04:35] <wheelswitch> drjava is on sourceforge
[04:35] <ken> lupine_85: KDevelop and Kate dont integrate well with GNOME
[04:35] <ollekalle> Viaken: thanks
[04:35] <lupine_85> ken: I guess
[04:35] <lupine_85> so install KDE :p
[04:35] <lupine_85> j/k
[04:36] <ken> lupine_85: i installed it yesterday, and got overwhelmed by it, i like 'sense and simplicity' so i use GNOME ;-)
[04:36] <ken> lupine_85: again, If i dont get some package in this case 'drjava', from ubuntu's repos where should i head to?
[04:36] <hastesaver> ken, what is drjava ?
[04:36] <lupine_85> ken: the source code, IMO
[04:36] <ken> hastesaver: it is a simple java based IDE suggested to me by wheelswitch
[04:36] <lupine_85> but whatever you find easiest and least likely to break your computer, I guess
[04:37] <Viaken> Apparently I chose a bad time to try and upgrade to feisty. lol
[04:37] <ken> lupine_85: I am looking for some place to look for .deb files that work in Ubuntu maybe something like a large directory. What would you do (what site would you go to) if you want a package not listed in ubuntu's repos?
[04:37] <lupine_85> Viaken: any time is a bad time :p
[04:37] <hastesaver> ken, it looks like it's just a jar file, so just downloading the jar file and running it with java -jar <filename> (or even just double-clicking on it) should work, I guess
[04:37] <Viaken> lupine_85: I don't mind some breakage if I can boot. :P
[04:37] <lupine_85> ken: I'd google
[04:38] <lupine_85> Viaken: yeah. booting..
[04:38] <Viaken> Yeah lol
[04:38] <lupine_85> need a live CD?
[04:38] <ken> lupine_85: and what is google? ;-)
[04:38] <lupine_85> !google
[04:38] <ubotu> Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[04:38] <lupine_85> :p
[04:38] <ken> hastesaver: good observation, any recommendations for a programming lightweight editor?
[04:38] <Viaken> ken: Scite
[04:39] <lupine_85> ken: it really depends on whether anyone's /bothered/ to build it for ubuntu or not.
[04:39] <pm2> When I compile something, it fails with this error: "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lole32" -- I can't figure out what package I need to install.  Any ideas?
[04:39] <noelferreira> hi people. there's such a thing like VOIPBUSTER for use with ubuntu?
[04:39] <johan_> how do you scan for wireless connections with 6.10
[04:39] <lupine_85> !info libole32-dev
[04:39] <ubotu> Package libole32-dev does not exist in any distro I know
[04:39] <lupine_85> meh
[04:40] <lupine_85> pm2: it's the development package for the ole32 library (-l)
[04:40] <johan_> iwconfig?
[04:40] <ken> lupine_85: If the source code of a program is available on GPL, and it has a version on MS WINDOWS (in this case notepad++), is there some way i can make it run on ubuntu? i use it all the time for Java programming at work but in linux i am kind of feeling lonely without it, its a simple text-editor with useful features
[04:40] <lupine_85> as to where you'd get it from... good question
[04:40] <hastesaver> ken, "programming" and "lightweight" are contradictory... it's a tradeoff. I live at one extreme (Emacs) so the wrong one to ask :-)
[04:40] <lupine_85> ken: it might compile. But probably won't
[04:40] <Viaken> johan_: For finding a network to join, I use NetworkManager (not the most stable thing, though, from what I hear. Works for me.) For general scanning or security audits, I go with kismet.
[04:40] <pm2> lupine_85, I can't locate a libole32* package
[04:40] <lupine_85> the win32 API and the X API are completely different
[04:40] <lupine_85> pm2: then it's time to google or ask the developers where to get it from
[04:41] <johan_> does iwconfig work?
[04:41] <ken> lupine_85: hastesaver: ok
[04:41] <ken> !Bye
[04:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Bye - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:42] <ken> no?
[04:42] <ken> ;-)
[04:42] <pm2> lupine_85, well, I have been googling ... if I found it, I wouldn't be wasting your time here ;-)
[04:42] <johan_> is NetworkManager installed by default in ubuntu 6.10
[04:42] <drbreen> johan_: i doubt that
[04:42] <obi_1> hi, I have problem with amaroK on ubuntu - it just don't play mp3 files - do I need to do something special to get it working?
[04:42] <un_operateur> !mp3 | obi_1
[04:42] <ubotu> obi_1: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:42] <lupine_85> pm2: then you'll need to ask the developers. Although... isn't OLE a windows thing?
[04:42] <johan_> how can i connect to wireless internet with default ubuntu
[04:43] <pm2> lupine_85, yeah, I'll do that - apt-file isn't finding anything either... this is for a windows emulator, so maybe I'm configuring it incorrectly...
[04:43] <johan_> iwconfig eth1 linksys gives me an error
[04:44] <corypho> hello
[04:44] <CheyenneD> Where do i get MP3 codecs?
[04:44] <hastesaver> !mp3
[04:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:44] <un_operateur> pm2, seems the only OLE package one ubuntu's repos is libole-storage-lite-perl which isnt what you are after, i assume
[04:44] <corypho> i search a program like battery maximiser on windows for my ibm t42p. is there something similar on ubuntu? i would like to have longest akku-time
[04:44] <un_operateur> s/one/on/
[04:45] <ibob63> I've got a copy of the live cd 6.06 from which you can install ubuntu. However it keeps stalling. Is there a way of installing from the command line and not the live ubuntu?
[04:45] <pm2> un_operateur, saw that one... don't think its what I want
[04:45] <noelferreira> hi people. there's such a thing like VOIPBUSTER for use with ubuntu?
[04:45] <hastesaver> ibob63, try the alternative install cd
[04:45] <un_operateur> pm2, what are these packages in relation to?
[04:45] <pm2> un_operateur, a custom compile of qemu
[04:45] <johan_> i still dont understand how to use my wireless in ubuntu
[04:46] <sanozuke> i have libpcap-0.9.4 how do i do to install
[04:46] <corypho> hello? can anybody help me with such a program?
[04:46] <ibob63> hastesaver - sadly, i don't have any other CD's.... is there are way of getting the live on to work like the other wone?
[04:47] <lupine_85> pm2: you might be able to feed it a CFLAG to turn off OLE support
[04:47] <johan_> arent we suppose to be able to use iwconfig to use the wireless
[04:47] <lupine_85> johan_: yep
[04:48] <pm2> lupine_85, yeah, that's what I'm looking for now...
[04:48] <corypho> no program to regulate the energy?
[04:48] <lupine_85> before you can configure it, you need the drivers installed though
[04:48] <un_operateur> pm2, if you are missing dependencies -- you might want to try -- sudo apt-get build-dep qemu
[04:48] <hastesaver> ibob63, if it's stalling, it probably means something wrong with the CD... do you have the iso image so that you can burn a new CD?
[04:48] <juano> i have a problem with a motorola rokr to make it sync with amarok, aparently the problem is it is searching for iTunesDB in the wrong directory, how can i change it to look in other dir?
[04:48] <sanozuke> what's the term to a program that count's uploads and downloads
[04:48] <lupine_85> sanozuke: iptraf ?
[04:48] <un_operateur> sanozuke, uploads and downloads of what exactly?
[04:48] <pm2> un_operateur, I did - there not in there.  I'm thinking I may not be doing the ./configure correctly, so I just tried a different one... waiting to see what make does
[04:49] <linopil> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ---- cannot find it also cannot find xchat what repo? why ?
[04:49] <johan_> my wireless card works fine but i'm not sure how to get associated with my router
[04:49] <sanozuke> i have limits to download
[04:49] <sanozuke> have to count them
[04:49] <MegaRom> anybody know some why cpp asks initialisers ? graphics.cpp:21: fout: expected initializer before extern
[04:49] <un_operateur> pm2, yea, if qemu has odd dependencies, the INSTALL/README file ought to let you know about them and where to obtain them from
[04:49] <sanozuke> so i don't exced
[04:50] <hastesaver> sanozuke, i don't know about counting, but the package trickle might help for controlling
[04:50] <rambo3> !qemu-launcher
[04:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qemu-launcher - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:50] <rambo3> !info qemu-launcher
[04:50] <ubotu> Package qemu-launcher does not exist in any distro I know
[04:50] <pm2> un_operateur, actually, I think I fixed it with ./configure -- I may have --enabled something that is windows-centric.  It seems to be working OK now.  Thanks
[04:50] <johan_> ok got it
[04:50] <un_operateur> sanozuke, ifconfig tells you how many bytes have entered the interface ... perhaps that helps
[04:50] <lupine_85> MegaRom: syntax error
[04:50] <johan_> missing part was ifconfig eth1 up
[04:51] <un_operateur> pm2, :)
[04:51] <richard501> ~$ iwconfig eth1
[04:51] <richard501> eth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:"appleby2"  Nickname:"Broadcom 4318"
[04:51] <richard501>           Mode:Managed  Access Point: Invalid   Bit Rate=1 Mb/s
[04:51] <ollekalle> question: How can I from ssh (or from shell-login) start X applications? (I have gdm up and running)
[04:51] <richard501> Access point issue
[04:52] <richard501> how can i fix it
[04:52] <lupine_85> ollekalle: you need to specify the display to show the app on
[04:52] <hartsantler> anybody tried xubuntu? i want to try it
[04:52] <lupine_85> e.g. DISPLAY=my_ip_here:0 app_name
[04:52] <ollekalle> lupine_85: is there some man-page for this?
[04:52] <lupine_85> ^ example ^
[04:52] <lupine_85> the man page in question would probably be xorg
[04:53] <lupine_85> it's just an environment variable
[04:53] <hartsantler> is the 64bit version of ubuntu pretty stable now?
[04:53] <hastesaver> ollekalle, you must have ssh-ed with "ssh -X" first
[04:54] <shido> since Edgy came out i cant install ubuntu, i tried installing Edgy on a dual boot way....and it failed, it tells me "error when loading the operative system"...i even tried a clean install, and the same happens...i tried with feisty herd 1 and the same happens...i dont know whats going on there :-( does anybody?
[04:54] <lupine_85> hartsantler: it's always been stable
[04:54] <tim167> Xsane is driving me INSANE
[04:54] <linopil> why tim?
[04:54] <linopil> tim167:
[04:54] <b0ss_> hiya im in a bit of a pickle i installed vm perl from a repos and i knwo where its at just dunno how to open it?
[04:54] <b0ss_> any help
[04:55] <tuning13> hla
[04:55] <tim167> is there ANY way to tell Xsane to scan a WHOLE page instead of just a small part of it ??
[04:55] <linopil> tim167: let me guess one of th windows closes immediately?
[04:55] <tim167> linopil: no, not just yet :-P
[04:55] <linopil> sure tim167 preview it
[04:55] <x-r00t-x> StdAfx.cpp:5:20: error: stdafx.h: No such file or directory
[04:55] <x-r00t-x> any idea?
[04:55] <x-r00t-x> oops
[04:55] <x-r00t-x> StdAfx.cpp:5:20: error: studio.h: No such file or directory
[04:56] <tim167> linopil: how ? i dont see preview anywhere, sorry
[04:56] <x-r00t-x> how do i register those c++ header file?
[04:56] <linopil> b0ss locate it !
[04:56] <un_operateur> b03nto, the vim-perl packages just adds extentions to your existing vim install  -- inside vim -- type :help perl -- or within gvim, you should see a perl menu in the menu bar
[04:56] <adaptr> x-r00t-x: not "register" - just #include them
[04:56] <tim167> linopil:ah nevermind I finally found it : ctrl+1 to show preview! that it ?
[04:57] <adaptr> x-r00t-x: done much C programming before ? ;-)
[04:57] <x-r00t-x> adaptr, i mean where do i put those file ... yeah i know
[04:57] <linopil> yes yes and yes tim167
[04:57] <x-r00t-x> adaptr, kindda but on windows
[04:57] <adaptr> x-r00t-x: they have to be already present when you include them, obviously
[04:57] <tim167> linopil: thanks, i'm xsane again
[04:57] <linopil> I knew you have that problm tim167 sounds like an innocent bug to me
[04:57] <linopil> be my friend
[04:58] <linopil> socialize in #linguistics
[04:58] <x-r00t-x> adaptr, where is <file>.h located at?
[04:58] <MegaRom> lupine_85:  should i pastebin ?
[04:58] <tim167> what's #linguistics's subject ?
[04:58] <MegaRom> cuz i see no syntax error
[04:58] <un_operateur> x-r00t-x, /usr/include usually
[04:58] <lupine_85> MegaRom: not much point. ##c++ would be a better bet for you
[04:59] <adaptr> x-r00t-x: locate ?
[05:00] <x-r00t-x> adaptr,
[05:00] <x-r00t-x> yes
[05:00] <x-r00t-x> un_operateur, tnx but there is no studio.h file . where do i download them for linux?
[05:00] <un_operateur> studio.h?? :))
[05:00] <qeed> stdio.h you mean?
[05:00] <un_operateur> x-r00t-x, you mean stdio.h ?
[05:01] <x-r00t-x> yes
[05:01] <adaptr> x-r00t-x: you don't - you donwload (or better, *install*) the development version of whatever library that has that file
[05:01] <ollekalle> lupine_85/hastesaver: thanks. xhost+ and DISPLAY=localhost:0.0. Now it works fine
[05:01] <adaptr> x-r00t-x: but every linux distribution has stdio.h
[05:02] <lupine_85> adaptr: as long as you have libc6-dev installed, yeah
[05:02] <lupine_85> !info libc6-dev
[05:02] <ubotu> libc6-dev: GNU C Library: Development Libraries and Header Files. In component main, is optional. Version 2.4-1ubuntu12 (edgy), package size 1808 kB, installed size 7872 kB
[05:02] <hastesaver> ollekalle, but I'd guess it's rather slow, right? You're probably better off using something like vncviewer or something...
[05:02] <x-r00t-x> adaptr,  you mean build-essential?
[05:02] <lupine_85> x-r00t-x: install that
[05:02] <adaptr> x-r00t-x: probably, yes
[05:02] <x-r00t-x> lukas_, :) lamme try . tnx
[05:02] <un_operateur> x-r00t-x, if you are looking for stdafx.h  -- it appears to be a header in MFC which is windows-centric only
[05:03] <x-r00t-x> oh
[05:03] <x-r00t-x> libc6-dev is already the newest version.
[05:03] <un_operateur> x-r00t-x, at your terminal --  locate stdio.h
[05:04] <lupine_85> x-r00t-x: then you have stdio.h ... studio.h is another matter, I'd imagine
[05:04] <LinTux> I have a USB external HDD, how do I format it and what is the best files system to format it with
[05:04] <lupine_85> libc6-dev: /usr/include/stdio.h
[05:04] <kohr_> anyone here got the ipod working with amarok?
[05:05] <x-r00t-x> un_operateur,  so many of stdio.h . thanks for teaching me that locate command
[05:05] <linopil> luine
[05:05] <linopil> lupine_85: \o
[05:05] <linopil> new machine here
[05:05] <rance> LinTux: you need a command for your file system like "mke2fs" or "mkreiserfs" and the device name of the hdd, example: sudo mke2fs /dev/hda1
[05:06] <trilingualkid> hi. i need some help
[05:06] <LinTux> rance: Thanks M8
[05:06] <trilingualkid> Is there anyone here that can help me?
[05:06] <linopil> what is shortest path on apt-get to have xchat. cannot find it on default
[05:06] <un_operateur> x-r00t-x, the one you refer to in C/C++ files is the one in /usr/include ..
[05:06] <linopil> yes trilingualkid
[05:06] <linopil> trilingualkid:  kid
[05:06] <hastesaver> linopil, the package is xchat :p
[05:06] <trilingualkid> hi, linopil. I need some help installing apps.
[05:06] <hastesaver> linopil, apt-get install xchat doesn't work?
[05:06] <trilingualkid> when i check one off....
[05:06] <kohr_> thats what i thought
[05:06] <linopil> !anybody | trilingualkid
[05:06] <ubotu> trilingualkid: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:07] <rance> np, LinTux,: your other question was about what file system to use, right, it depends on what you are doing but generally I stick to ext3
[05:07] <superkirbyartist> Do I need more memory for my PC?  I have 256MB.
[05:07] <linopil> hastesaver: te right
[05:07] <trilingualkid> it says it is conflicting with another app
[05:07] <hastesaver> it's in universe... should work
[05:07] <rance> I tried reiserfs but decided I didnt like it
[05:07] <linopil> i would like to know how to find what repository it needs
[05:07] <JRwindoze> Why not Fat32?
[05:07] <Slart> rance: why didn't you like reiserfs? I just formatted a new drive with reiserfs.. what did I miss? =)
[05:07] <trilingualkid> wha?t do you mean?
[05:08] <hastesaver> linopil, apt-cache show xchat. Or even apt-cache policy xchat, and read the URL
[05:08] <linopil> truth is I put BG interface so it uses servers accordingly
[05:08] <x-r00t-x> un_operateur, you mean like this #include "stdafx.h" or #include "/usr/include/stdio.h"
[05:08] <hastesaver> linopil, oh... what is BG interface? I don't know
[05:09] <trilingualkid> Is there anyone here that can help me? Whenever I check off an app to install it, it says it conflicts with installed software. ALL of them say that. what do i do?
[05:09] <un_operateur> x-r00t-x, stdafx.h doesnt work in linux dude -- its windows only
[05:09] <trilingualkid> It says to switch to advanced mode. what do i do?
[05:09] <b0ss_> un_operateur: i installed vim-perl and all it packages but how do i start it  dpkg -L grep doesnt work
[05:09] <Slart> trilingualkid: it doesn't say _what_ software?
[05:09] <rance> reiserfs is a great fs, I think, its designed to work better with lots of small files, so generally the /home partition would be a good choice for reiserfs, but I found that a great many software programs I use have optimized themselves around ext3 and I didn't get the performace out of them that I should have till I went back
[05:09] <hastesaver> trilingualkid, give an example of what app you're trying to install, and what it says it conflicts with
[05:09] <rance> I still have a reiserfs /home though
[05:10] <trilingualkid> I was trying to install the TuxKart game
[05:10] <Slart> rance: ah.. any special programs that didn't like reiserfs?
[05:10] <b0ss_> un_operateur: i installed vim-perl and all it packages but how do i start it  dpkg -L grep doesnt work
[05:10] <x-r00t-x> un_operateur,  ok tnx . but i cant compile any source using gcc . its show me like "no file found" even stdio.h
[05:10] <trilingualkid> it says it's conflicting with installed softare
[05:10] <un_operateur> b0ss_, at your terminal -- vim.perl
[05:10] <Slart> trilingualkid: hmm.. nothing more specific?
[05:10] <rance> well qmail (Dan Bernstiens email server is greatly optimized for ext, and having reiser broke it
[05:10] <trilingualkid> Slart: nope
[05:11] <b0ss_> cd to its directory
[05:11] <Slart> rance: ok.. good to know.. thanks
[05:11] <kohr_> so, no one has got an ipod in here?
[05:11] <Slart> trilingualkid: you using synaptic?
[05:11] <trilingualkid> Here's exactly what it says:
[05:11] <trilingualkid> Cannot install 'tuxkart'
[05:11] <trilingualkid> This application conflicts with other installed software. To install 'tuxkart' the conflicting software must be removed before.
[05:11] <trilingualkid> Switch to the advanced mode to resolve this conflict.
[05:12] <trilingualkid> no. I'm using Add/Remove Applications
[05:12] <b0ss_> O SHIT
[05:12] <b0ss_> ty
[05:12] <Slart> trilingualkid: I'll give it a try.. see what it says
[05:12] <un_operateur> b0ss_, the way to find packages is  -- dpkg -l | grep -i string
[05:12] <trilingualkid> slart, are you there?
[05:13] <Kohlgarten> hi: I activated the "free the fish" but I can't remove it :p help pleas
[05:13] <Slart> trilingualkid: yup.. I'm installing tuxkart... I'll let you know when it's donw
[05:13] <Slart> *done
[05:13] <kohr_> no ipod  users here? i am trying to get amarok to work.
[05:14] <trilingualkid> tuxkart isn't already installed
[05:14] <Slart> trilingualkid: ok, installing worked fine when I used synaptic.. I'll try the other way too
[05:14] <trilingualkid> just by checking off the box it says it's conflicting with something
[05:14] <kohr_> kohlgarten what is free the fish?
[05:15] <Kohlgarten> kohr_: a christmas egg: type alt-f2 and "free the fish"
[05:15] <kohr_> kohlgarten a christmas egg in wHAT?
[05:15] <Kohlgarten> Kohr_: ubuntu
[05:15] <trilingualkid> Slart: on synaptic, it says "you have one broken package on your system! use the "Broken" filter to locate it
[05:15] <Slart> trilingualkid: try running synaptic instead.. System, Administration, Synaptic package manager
[05:15] <trilingualkid> slart: on synaptic, it says "you have one broken package on your system! use the "Broken" filter to locate it
[05:15] <linopil> kohr_:  amarok is kool
[05:16] <CheyenneD> How do I create a directory through the termnal and copy a file into that directory?
[05:16] <Kohlgarten> kohr_: then if you can't remove it, you're in my case :p
[05:16] <Slart> trilingualkid: ok, press the button "Custom filters", then chose "broken"
[05:16] <kohr_> hey
[05:16] <kohr_> thats neat
[05:16] <Slart> trilingualkid: that should show you what package is broken
[05:16] <kohr_> how many fish you got?
[05:16] <Kohlgarten> kohr_: only one, but an orange one!
[05:16] <CheyenneD> How do I create a directory through the termnal and copy a file into that directory?
[05:17] <trilingualkid> slart: it says "ymessenger" - i was trying to install yahoo messenger earlier today, but i deleted that package
[05:17] <Chachee> sudo mkdir
[05:17] <Chachee> cp /path/file /newpath
[05:17] <Slart> trilingualkid: ok.. try reinstalling it and then removing it.. so everything is removed correctly
[05:17] <Chachee> sudo infront as well
[05:17] <JRwindoze> mk directoryname
[05:17] <pm2> Any qemu users here? I'm trying to run Win2k under Ubuntu linux, and so far its working pretty well.  However, when I start qemu with the argument "-smb /home/pm2/myShare", I cannot access it in Windows - even after I add the line to the lmhosts file.  This is the latest version of qemu.  Any ideas as to what I could try?
[05:17] <trilingualkid> slart: how do i do that?
[05:17] <JRwindoze> cd directoryname
[05:18] <Slart> trilingualkid: there's a little square in front of the package name.. click it
[05:18] <Chachee> has anyone used sound jucier to rip their CDs?  I did and it didn't fill out any tag info so now Amarok has it all listed by track numbers.  Fix?
[05:18] <brubut_> is there any symbian emulator to play symbian game under ubuntu?
[05:18] <JRwindoze> cp filedaddress thisaddress
[05:18] <trilingualkid> slart: ok. do i mark for removal or complete removal?
[05:19] <Slart> trilingualkid: complete removal removes configuration files.. saved games etc... in this case it's probably good
[05:19] <Slart> trilingualkid: so chose complete removal
[05:19] <trilingualkid> ok. ill try that
[05:19] <trilingualkid> ok. now i click apply, right?
[05:19] <Slart> trilingualkid: right
[05:20] <kohr_> kohlgarten,your fish still there?
[05:20] <trilingualkid> it says it's removing software
[05:20] <Kohlgarten> kohr_: it comes back one i a while
[05:20] <trilingualkid> slart: ok. It's done
[05:20] <Slart> trilingualkid: now try installing tuxkart again
[05:20] <Riyonuk> I just installed 6.10 and my friend tells me my wireless card is prism2.5 and should be supported out of the box, why isnt it? Is he wrong?
[05:20] <trilingualkid> let me open the window really quickly.....
[05:21] <kohr_> kohlgarten, lol, i can't belive this
[05:21] <Slart> trilingualkid: I'm not going anywhere =)
[05:21] <Kohlgarten> kohr_: what?
[05:21] <Riyonuk> And how would one tell?
[05:22] <kohr_> kohlgarten, can you find it in the ps aux list?
[05:22] <trilingualkid> slart: yay! thank you so much!!!! now i can install any app i want. that's the cool thing about these ircs: you have a problem once and u (hopefully) remember the solution forever! thank you! what does irc stand for,anyway?
[05:22] <Kohlgarten> kohr_: no :)
[05:22] <Riyonuk> internet relay chat
[05:22] <Slart> trilingualkid: internet relay chat.. and you're welcome =)
[05:22] <Riyonuk> >_>
[05:22] <trilingualkid> thanx again. bye!!!
[05:22] <Kohlgarten> kohr_: that would be the reason I ask
[05:22] <carinhosa> hello, may somebody help me with the installation of a duplex printer using ubuntu 6.10 on a laptop (maxdata pro 7100x) ?
[05:22] <Slart> trilingualkid: if you use add/remove programs or synaptic doesn't really matter.. synaptic gives you a few more options though
[05:23] <bobbyc> how do i list the connected drives
[05:23] <bobbyc> hard drives
[05:23] <subset> df
[05:24] <godhell> yo
[05:24] <subset> hi
[05:24] <godhell> whats the channel for beryl? i've forgotten <.<
[05:24] <brobot> any room special for discussing games on ubuntu?
[05:24] <tuckerm> !dvd
[05:24] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:24] <bobbyc> thanks subset but i meant listing other hard drive devies
[05:24] <tuckerm> !ripping
[05:24] <ubotu> For information about the Sound Juicer ripping application, read the Gnome help (Applications- Multimedia -Sound Juicer Manual). To rip an Audio CD in KDE, put it in and then put audiocd:// in the Konqueror URL bar; it's configurable in system settings.
[05:25] <Music_Shuffle> godhell, #xgl
[05:25] <bobbyc> i'm trying to mount an ntfs partition
[05:25] <kohr_> kohlgarten, try killall gnome panel
[05:25] <Kohlgarten> kohr_: worked with you?
[05:25] <carinhosa> hello, may somebody help me with the installation of a duplex printer using ubuntu 6.10 on a laptop (maxdata pro 7100x) ?
[05:26] <godhell> #xgl
[05:26] <godhell> wops sru
[05:26] <godhell> =p
[05:26] <bobbyc> or better yet, how do i list all the ntfs partitions connected
[05:26] <carinhosa> hello, may somebody help me with the installation of a duplex printer using ubuntu 6.10 on a laptop (maxdata pro 7100x) ?
[05:26] <fnord_> i have no sound in democracy player,anyone else ave this issue?
[05:26] <kohr_> kohlgarten havn't tried it yet
[05:27] <Kohlgarten> kohr_: trying right now
[05:27] <brobot> can i get rom for game boy advance under ubuntu?
[05:27] <carinhosa> hello, may somebody help me with the installation of a duplex printer using ubuntu 6.10 on a laptop (maxdata pro 7100x) ?
[05:27] <kohr_> kohlgarten, i think it worked
[05:27] <Chachee> thanks for the manual link going to go ready
[05:27] <Chachee> err.. read
[05:27] <kohr_> kohlgarten the fish is gone for now
[05:28] <Kohlgarten> Kohr_: the fish Is gone! where did the fish go?
[05:28] <juano> does anyone know a repository for libgpod 0.4.0???
[05:28] <kohr_> kohlgarten, i wonder where that fish could be?
[05:28] <kohr_> a fishy a fishy a fishy FISH
[05:29] <brobot> hmm. i think i i'll just look for pron under ubuntu. thankyou all
[05:29] <Kohlgarten> kohr_: exactly
[05:29] <kohr_> kohlgarten, monty python meaning of life?
[05:29] <carinhosa> hello, may somebody help me with the installation of a duplex printer using ubuntu 6.10 on a laptop (maxdata pro 7100x) ?
[05:29] <kohr_> iirc
[05:30] <x-r00t-x> can i use Turbo C++ on ubuntu?
[05:30] <Kohlgarten> kohr_: yes, but the fish story was real though
[05:30] <carinhosa> hello, may somebody help me with the installation of a duplex printer using ubuntu 6.10 on a laptop (maxdata pro 7100x) ?
[05:31] <kohr_> kohlgarten that was  a horrible movie
[05:31] <tuckerm> !libdvdcss2
[05:31] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:31] <QwertyM> x-r00t-x, that stupid TurboC++, forget it, use gcc instead
[05:31] <carinhosa> hello, may somebody help me with the installation of a duplex printer using ubuntu 6.10 on a laptop (maxdata pro 7100x) ?
[05:31] <QwertyM> x-r00t-x, but I guess you can run it on DOS or Windows emus, never tried
[05:32] <x-r00t-x> QwertyM, ok but which one is the best c++ editor?
[05:32] <rance> carinhosa: did you go to linuxprinting.org and make sure there was a .ppd file for your printer and that all the features worked
[05:32] <fnord_> HELP!!! democracy player lacks sound,i have sound from everywhere else on my box
[05:32] <budluva> where can i find a better looking clock applet than the one that comes stock with kde?
[05:33] <QwertyM> x-r00t-x, I like Gedit for it but I heard Anjuta's built as an C++ IDE. Eclipse too has C++ plugins.
[05:33] <kohr_> kohlgarten apt-get moo
[05:33] <x-r00t-x> !Anjuta
[05:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Anjuta - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:33] <Chachee> ok i read the manual for sound jucier, but it doesn't say how to get the tags right.  Neither amarok or rhythmbox read any tag info fromt he files
[05:33] <x-r00t-x> !Eclipse
[05:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Eclipse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:34] <x-r00t-x> 0.o
[05:34] <Goldfisch> !eclipse
[05:34] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 121 kB, installed size 412 kB
[05:34] <kohr_> !easteregg
[05:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easteregg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:34] <Goldfisch> !anjuta
[05:34] <kohr_> !easter eggs
[05:34] <ubotu> anjuta: A GNOME development IDE, for C/C++. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.2-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1494 kB, installed size 3760 kB
[05:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easter eggs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:34] <rance> I have a package management question: suppose I do a "sudo apt-get install foo" and some package named bar is installed at dependency
[05:34] <x-r00t-x> tnx
[05:35] <rance> later after foo is uninstalled bar is still hanging around doing nothing (possibly)
[05:35] <tuckerm> can someone tell me the sudo command to get whaetver codecs i need to play a dvd on ubuntu
[05:35] <fnord_> !help
[05:35] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:35] <Naik0> !ati
[05:35] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:35] <Goldfisch> tuckerm: Automatix can help you load the dvdcss package.
[05:36] <rance> how do I get a list of such packages installed as dependencies but dont have any of the original packages installed
[05:36] <tuckerm> !Automatix
[05:36] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:36] <x-r00t-x> tbnx QwertyM and Goldfisch :P
[05:36] <kohr_> kohlgarten figlet .|.
[05:37] <Goldfisch> Well, automatix works great, never break me once, and I love it. Definitely improved a lot since automatix2 came out.
[05:37] <lupine_85> !worksforme
[05:37] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[05:37] <Goldfisch> ubotu may stronly discourage automatix, but I strongly encourage it.
[05:37] <lupine_85> @Goldfisch, of course
[05:37] <lupine_85> Goldfisch: Canonical own ubotu, so it's canonical official opinion. Excuse me if I take their word over yours :p
[05:38] <tuckerm> Well, i'm a bit of a new person still at ubuntu. I just want to watch it, what about gstreamer or something like that, is there codecs i'm missing? I'm also hearing something about libdvdcss2
[05:38] <lupine_85> but yeah, installing stuff in ubuntu is so easy anyway, even if it worked properly, automatix is a waste of time
[05:38] <erUSUL> !restricted | tuckerm
[05:38] <ubotu> tuckerm: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:38] <lupine_85> tuckerm: to watch dvds you need libdvdcss installed - which is illegal to distribute in some companies
[05:38] <kohr_> ipod anyone?
[05:39] <lupine_85> so ubuntu can't officially package it. But it's around - folow ^those links^ for a how-to
[05:39] <QwertyM> x-r00t-x, lol just do a sudo apt-get install anjuta
[05:39] <kohr_> apt-get moo
[05:39] <w3ccv> kohr_, iPod - What?!
[05:39] <QwertyM> x-r00t-x, w00ps, late :p
[05:39] <adaptr> apt-moo more_moo
[05:39] <x-r00t-x> QwertyM, yeah but that is for java?
[05:39] <kohr_> w3ccv, do you have one that works with linix?
[05:39] <x-r00t-x> sudo apt-get moo
[05:39] <x-r00t-x> :P
[05:40] <w3ccv> kohr_, I'm using gnupod or Yamipod to load mine in iPod mode
[05:40] <QwertyM> x-r00t-x, Anjuta is a very versatile Integrated development environment for c and c++ it says :p
[05:40] <ariccs> Hello all
[05:40] <QwertyM> Gedit is nice for most of languages for me :)
[05:40] <kohr_> w2ccv, does it work correctly? i wasn't able to get it to recoignise anything
[05:40] <tim167> how can I a list of useful irc channel commands ?
[05:41] <kohr_> w2ccv how do you mount your ipod?
[05:41] <ariccs> Type /help
[05:41] <x-r00t-x> !anjuta
[05:41] <ubotu> anjuta: A GNOME development IDE, for C/C++. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.2-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1494 kB, installed size 3760 kB
[05:41] <x-r00t-x> oops i am install QwertyM :)
[05:41] <x-r00t-x> QwertyM, i love jedit :)
[05:41] <richaber> My synaptics touchpad has stopped working completely.
[05:41] <w3ccv> kohr_, for iPod use I'm running on FC4 - it mounts at plugin
[05:41] <Goldfisch> I've used eclipse for Java and Python projects. Great in that arena (if you have the memory). Tried it on a downloaded C++ project, but couldn't decipher how to make it even run the configure script or makefile.
[05:42] <linopil> what torrent client in gnome ?
[05:42] <kohr_> w3ccv FC4, what window manager is that?
[05:42] <linopil> !torrent
[05:42] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[05:42] <juano> does anyone know a repository for libgpod 0.4.0???
[05:42] <juano>  dist ubuntu 6.10 edgy
[05:42] <linopil> !java
[05:42] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[05:42] <carinhosa> rance: try apt-get autoremove
[05:43] <tim167> help /whois
[05:43] <tim167> oops
[05:43] <w3ccv> kohr_, ( FC4 = Red Hat Fedore Core4 - not ubuntu) plug it in, then run sudo fdisk -l to see where the sytem finds it.
[05:43] <x-r00t-x> lol
[05:43] <carinhosa> my problem is that in the first dialogue there is no option to choose a port
[05:43] <w3ccv> kohr_, /fedore/fedora/
[05:43] <kohr_> w3ccv, i would have to buy that then, wouldn't i? oh darn
[05:44] <prisca> Hi, can anyone help with kbatcode??
[05:44] <prisca> sorry, thats karcode
[05:44] <LinTux> I have a 160GB USB Drive i need to format what is the command I need and how do I now which drive it is and the best file system to format it with?
[05:44] <w3ccv> kohr_, try the fdisk -l  then see what
[05:44] <cezeta> Hello all :)
[05:44] <lupine_85> LinTux: mkfs is your friend for formatting
[05:44] <ariccs> Hello cezeta
[05:45] <lupine_85> unless you've got a particular reason to use something else, ext3 is as good as any other
[05:45] <josteinaj> I'm having trouble using my Alt Gr button. I'm using Ubuntu Edgy with Xgl/Beryl. I've tried what I could find on Google with no success. (editing xorg.conf and changing settings in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard)
[05:45] <linopil> on basic ubuntu install how to burn copy install CD?
[05:45] <carinhosa> does somebody know an (interactive) place where i can get help with installing a printer? thanks!!
[05:45] <lupine_85> as for what drive it is... depends on where it's plugged in and what other drives you have. On my system a USB hard drive would be /dev/sdaX - might be different for you, so CHECK
[05:45] <LinTux> what would the complete command to put into terminal then to creat EXT3 file system
[05:46] <GreyGhost> !hi |cezeta
[05:46] <ubotu> cezeta: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[05:46] <erUSUL> LinTux: mkfs.ext3
[05:46] <carinhosa> ?
[05:46] <juano> does anyone know a repository for libgpod 0.4.0???
[05:46] <juano>  dist ubuntu 6.10 edgy
[05:46] <linopil> cezeta:  cezeta cezeta cezeta
[05:46] <tim167> test
[05:46] <kohr_> oh
[05:46] <carinhosa> hello, may somebody help me with the installation of a duplex printer using ubuntu 6.10 on a laptop (maxdata pro 7100x) ?
[05:46] <adaptr> LinTux: sudo mke2fs -j /dev/<devicename>
[05:47] <linopil> nao carinhosa ;-)
[05:47] <w3ccv> kohr_,  try fdisk -l  see what woeks on your system (ubuntu?)
[05:48] <LinTux> how do I find out the device name?
[05:48] <gissi> Good morning|afternoon|night everybody. Quick question: how can I bootstrap Edgy from Debian Sarge?
[05:48] <carinhosa> porque?
[05:48] <lupine_85> gissi: debootstrap edgy http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[05:48] <lupine_85> in the directory you want the bootstrap to be in
[05:48] <adaptr> LinTux: with fdisk, or gparted
[05:48] <LinTux> how do I find the device name for a USB hard disk
[05:49] <w3ccv> LinTux, use fdisk -l
[05:49] <vlt> Hello. I'm using Dapper 6.06. What program can I use to author a DVD? I have some vob files and want to burn them as a video DVD ...
[05:49] <lupine_85> !dvdauthor
[05:49] <ubotu> dvdauthor: create DVD-Video file system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.11-4 (edgy), package size 137 kB, installed size 356 kB
[05:49] <adaptr> erm.. k3b ? gtoaster ?
[05:49] <adaptr> oh.. *author*... :)
[05:49] <Slart> hmm, inserting a DVD disc seems to have killed my gnome-panel.. grrrr.. brb
[05:50] <carinhosa> vc conhece um lugar melhor para uma pergunta dessa?
[05:50] <adaptr> Slart: that's nothing.. adding konsole to my panel completely destroyed mine :)
[05:50] <gissi> lupine_85: I believe Debian's debootstrap doesn't have Edgy definions yet.
[05:50] <adaptr> carinhosa: English please
[05:50] <carinhosa> im sorry!
[05:50] <linux_kid> anyone know if you can run some sort of barebones linux (such as dsl) on the HP Jornada 720?
[05:50] <carinhosa> but could you help me with my problem in englsich?
[05:50] <vlt> lupine_85: Thank you.
[05:51] <gissi> lupine_85: Actually, there's not even Dapper in there :(
[05:51] <carinhosa> english?
[05:51] <kohr_> carinhosa, you need an english teacher for that
[05:51] <kohr_> sorry
[05:51] <lupine_85> gissi: I know. that's why I didn't suggest "debootstrap edgy"
[05:51] <carinhosa> i dont think so...
[05:51] <kohr_> carinhosa, we can help you with your problems in linux
[05:51] <lupine_85> if that doesn't work, you could always extract the script from the edgy udeb
[05:51] <carinhosa> yeah, great
[05:51] <gissi> lupine_85: Oops, I understand now.
[05:51] <josteinaj> I'm having trouble using my Alt Gr button. I'm using Ubuntu Edgy with Xgl/Beryl. I've tried what I could find on Google with no success. (editing xorg.conf and changing settings in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard)
[05:52] <kohr_> wait, how does no one here have ops?
[05:52] <ambimom> carinhosa:  if someone doesn't respond with answer to your linux problem, it means no one has solution
[05:52] <robbbb> hello all
[05:52] <kohr_> how do you kick people
[05:52] <ambimom> hello robbbb
[05:52] <carinhosa> so, if the workarounds and howtos and wikis didnt help me with my printer, that i could install on my desktop machine but not on my laptop (both ubuntu 6.10) what am i doing wrong?
[05:52] <kantlivelong> anyone here have a Logitech DiNovo?
[05:52] <robbbb> how come when a new window is created it appears top left under the rest?
[05:52] <robbbb> i'm using beryl
[05:53] <robbbb> and it's only just started happening
[05:53] <ambimom> carinhosa:  your printer may not work
[05:53] <adaptr> robbbb: because that's how you configured the "Put Window" plugin ?
[05:53] <linux_kid> tim167: how do you do that star thingy?
[05:53] <ambimom> carinhosa:  google linux printer hardware and see if your printer is compatible
[05:53] <kohr_>  w3ccv then what?
[05:53] <mseney> will there be other versions of LTS? For instance Edgy Eft 6.10 LTS ?
[05:53] <robbbb> adaptr: it's set to window center
[05:53] <carinhosa> as i said, it prints wonderful (duplex)pages with my desktop machine, that uses the same ubuntu version as well
[05:53] <adaptr> linux_kid: with a "/me" command
[05:54] <linux_kid> thanks adptr
[05:54] <kohr_> w3ccv. sorry, i was /msg you
[05:54] <robbbb> the only thing that is unticked is unfocus window
[05:54] <ambimom> carinhosa:  laptops are tricky
[05:54] <kohr_> w3ccv. sorry, i  didin't reaize it didn't work
[05:54] <carinhosa> its an specific problem with my laptop
[05:54] <adaptr> it's not a "star thingy", it's the only way to get IRC to refer to you without speaking
[05:54] <carinhosa> as u say
[05:54] <w3ccv> kohr_, does the iPod show up?  It will be something with the disk size (+/-) of your pod
[05:54] <tim167> linux_kid: type "/me" before "is testing irc commands"
[05:54] <tim167> linux_kid: http://www.ircbeginner.com/ircinfo/ircc-commands.html
[05:54] <lupine_85> mseney: other LTS releases will happen. Edgy isn't one of them
[05:54] <lupine_85> !LTS
[05:54] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[05:54] <lupine_85> heh, not helpful
[05:55] <linux_kid> thanks tim167
[05:55] <nikosapi> I have a script that when done executing prevents me from seeing what I'm typing into the terminal. Is there a way to set the terminal back to normal once this has happened?
[05:55] <kohr_> w3ccv. it auto mounts to /media/ipod
[05:55] <adaptr> lupine_85: not helpful in determining the next LTS release, no... but how would you expect them to know that before they were ready for release ?
[05:55] <cezeta> Hello all...  We are migrating from DEBIAN to UBUNTU server..  Anyone get problems running ubuntu server????  its like DEBIAN stability????   thanks advaice :)
[05:55] <adaptr> nikosapi: change the script to not fsck with your terminal
[05:55] <rance> nikosapi: what is your script written in, and how does it exit
[05:56] <adaptr> cezeta: hello, and welcome! we thank you for NOT SHOUTING, and yes... Ubuntu is quite stable, as it should be, since it is derived from Debian
[05:56] <w3ccv> kohr_, ok, you don't have any problems.  gnupod wll load songs - addsong.pl  - to the pod. mktunes will move the file into the pod's database. It is command line only.
[05:56] <lupine_85> adaptr: sensible people would say "OK, we'll have an lts release very X years"
[05:56] <adaptr> cezeta: in general, Debian packages are usable
[05:56] <lupine_85> preferably overlapping
[05:56] <nikosapi> It's a bash script and it doesn't do any terminal manipulation... It exits with "exit 0"...
[05:56] <linux_kid> cezeta: ubuntu IS debian, just run by different ppl
[05:56] <rance> cezeta: I have a ubuntu server at home, its nice, and stable, just be sure to go with 6.10 LTS for a server
[05:56] <Goldfisch> And Debian is stable...because it is derived from Linux. :)
[05:56] <lupine_85> Ubuntu is NOT debian :p
[05:57] <rance> and Linux is stable becuase its NOT Windows?
[05:57] <kohr_> w3ccv. its command line only? i thought gtkpod gave a GUI
[05:57] <linux_kid> rance: 6.10 isnt LTS
[05:57] <adaptr> lupine_85: I'm not sure if that is the right approach for server LTS.. you really, really want the opportunity to upgrade a server, and not having to reinstall it
[05:57] <carinhosa> so, ambimom, kohr_, adaptr and linopil, do you have time to check what i am doing wrong or even right? to repeat it: i was succesful on y desktop machine, but not on my laptop
[05:57] <kohr_> oh, gnupod
[05:57] <Goldfisch> Well, just stroll over to #debian and tell them "ubuntu is debian" and see what positive reaction you get. :)
[05:57] <adaptr> carinhosa: do you have any actual errors to show, or a coherent story to tell?
[05:57] <ReTyPe> how do i install the latest python (2.5) ?
[05:57] <lupine_85> adaptr: yes. what part of having a stable, overlapping LTS release cycle means you can't upgrade?
[05:57] <kohr_> carinhosa are they both ubuntu
[05:57] <cezeta> thanks, i know ubuntu is debian like...  but, I read from there that ubuntu it not a real stable distri, but, I see that meny month ago (iI think it pre drapper, so was not actually)
[05:57] <carinhosa> kohr_ yes
[05:57] <w3ccv> kohr_, sorry gnupod is what I meant to say.  I haven't gotten gtkpod to work
[05:58] <w3ccv> kohr_, Yamipod is a gui too.
[05:58] <cezeta> but, i came here, bocouse...  you are ubuntu masters :P
[05:58] <kohr_> w3ccv. is it good?
[05:58] <rance> oops, you are right, its 6.06 LTS
[05:58] <adaptr> lupine_85: because releasing more than one LTS version before the last one expires means you don't know what users will be upgrading *from*...
[05:58] <mseney> lupine_85, k thanks
[05:58] <carinhosa> adaptr: well i dont see a choice when starting the gnome-cups-manager dialogue
[05:58] <Goldfisch> Dapper was the first release where canonical said they would provide long-term-support (LTS). Canonical will always work to make releases every 6-months.
[05:58] <adaptr> carinhosa: what kind of choice would you like to have ?
[05:58] <kohr_> w3ccv. yamipod, i didn't see it in the package manager
[05:58] <carinhosa> lpt1
[05:58] <carinhosa> or lpt0
[05:58] <lupine_85> adaptr: that happens anyway
[05:58] <carinhosa> or whatever
[05:59] <carinhosa> just lpt
[05:59] <cezeta> we are going to install over 4 servers...  (xeon 1.6 4MB cache) whith package i need? ubuntu 6.10server for i386???
[05:59] <carinhosa> and i get nothing, a small bar with the arrows up and down
[05:59] <adaptr> Goldfisch: beside the point. when running a production server, you do NOT want to "upgrade" an LTS install to a regular one.. it would defeat the purpose of LTS
[05:59] <cezeta> bouse I say amd64. but for xeon 64? are there special package?
[05:59] <lupine_85> e.g. when feisty releases, some people will upgrade from edgy. Some really stupid people will upgrade from dapper
[05:59] <adaptr> cezeta: use ubuntu server
[06:00] <Soir> Hi, I'm trying to get a mustek 600cu scanner running, device shows up in /proc/bus/usb/devices but there's nothing in /dev being made for it by sane or anything else, am running xubuntu edgy
[06:00] <cezeta> theres anyone compiled to use on xeon 64bits?
[06:00] <carinhosa> i set up my bios to eep, purged and reinstalled all cupsys-relevant packages, did chmod lp and so on
[06:00] <Goldfisch> adaptr: Well, beside my point anyway, because I couldn't convince management to let me use Linux for a production wiki server. I just settled with Solaris + GNU products. Heheh.
[06:00] <w3ccv> kohr_, which good?  Yamipod  - it is a gui. but gnupod is good as a command line, but doesn't have managment ot playlists. youprobably have to dl Yamipod fro yamipod.com - buit that site is having preoblems right now.
[06:00] <linux_kid> how often does Canonical want to makes LTS's
[06:00] <kohr_> w3ccv. i guess i will just use itunes
[06:00] <robbbb> anyone got any thoughts on why my window positioning in beryl isn't working right?
[06:00] <lupine_85> actually, scratch that. I wouldn't have one for the desktop at all :p
[06:01] <cedric30> Hello
[06:01] <w3ccv> kohr_, command line probrams like gnupod can be run from a cron script - very good and handy.  Neither of what I use will use the iTunes store - don't use it, never have, never will. There is way too much good stuff out there to bother paying apple for it.
[06:02] <w3ccv> kohr_, s/brobrams/programs/
[06:02] <cezeta> adaptr, theres any xeon (64 bits) precompiled ubuntu server?
[06:02] <kohr_> w3ccv. i didn't say that i would but music from apple.
[06:02] <w3ccv> kohr_, no you didn't - I also didn'
[06:02] <adaptr> cezeta: have you looked at the distribution CDs yet ?
[06:03] <ReTyPe> i have a program (gramps) that needs python 2.5, but i cant uninstall the old python because it will remove much more stuff, how do i do this ?
[06:03] <kohr_> w3ccv. the artists i like release their songs for free anyway
[06:03] <GreyGhost> ReTyPe ,why don't u just apt get python?
[06:03] <GreyGhost> i "think" that should do it....
[06:03] <Goldfisch> kohr_: How do those artists make any money?
[06:03] <carinhosa> also the http://localhost:631/admin interface apparantly allows me only to set up network printers
[06:03] <w3ccv> kohr_, my pod is over 50% full, but probably only have 3 hours of music - mostly books on tape or podcasts. One of the good music sites I use is magnatunes.com
[06:04] <magicbronson_> anyone have a minute for a wifi question?
[06:04] <w3ccv> kohr_, others are philadelphia orchestra or BBC -
[06:04] <kohr_> w3ccv. you have a nano or what?
[06:04] <gissi> lupine_85: Didn't work, it needs the definition on /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts. I sent the script from my Edgy machine to the Sarge and I'm giving a shot.
[06:04] <GreyGhost> !ask | magicbronson_
[06:04] <ubotu> magicbronson_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:04] <w3ccv> kohr_, not a30gB video - don't know how to get videos on it
[06:05] <lupine_85> gissi: ok
[06:05] <adaptr> carinhosa: certainly not - if it has detected a parallel or USB printer then you can of course configure it directly through the CUPS web interface
[06:05] <w3ccv> kohr_, s/not/no/
[06:05] <robbbb> anyone know about beryl and where it puts new windows?
[06:05] <adaptr> cezeta: are you concussed ?
[06:05] <kohr_> w3ccv. what are the / things you keep saying?
[06:05] <carinhosa> no it doesnt detect a parralel port...
[06:05] <ReTyPe> GreyGhost: then i get python 2.4xx
[06:05] <carinhosa> parallel
[06:06] <GreyGhost> ReTyPe ,hmmmm ..maybe the Edgy repo py never got updated...
[06:06] <kohr_> w3ccv. i got a nano yesterday, already mostly full, 26 hours of music
[06:06] <w3ccv> kohr_, that's means   substituet / this/ for that /  an editor cmmand
[06:06] <tuning13> hola
[06:06] <carinhosa> adaptr: i'm getting the feeling, that it doesnt even detect the port
[06:06] <adaptr> carinhosa: what kind of printer do you have ?
[06:06] <bashir> hey
[06:06] <fromvega> Hello9
[06:06] <adaptr> ho
[06:06] <w3ccv> kohr_, correcting my mistakes - I'm also on a skype phone call
[06:06] <fromvega> Is there any conditional statement in Squid? I want to allow access to certain sites only to specific ip addrs.
[06:06] <carinhosa> a kyocera fs1030d (duplex)
[06:06] <bashir> how do i change the splash image in gnome?
[06:07] <adaptr> erm... by changing it ?
[06:07] <carinhosa> and i can print with my ubuntu desktop machine!
[06:07] <carinhosa> thats the strange point
[06:07] <kohr_> w3ccv. oh , i get it
[06:07] <gissi> fromvega: Yes, you need to setup ACLs
[06:07] <carinhosa> there was no problem with that one
[06:07] <adaptr> carinhosa: what is this, then ? you're still in #ubuntu
[06:07] <fromvega> gissi: yes, I know. But I can't find a logic to do that.
[06:07] <adaptr> fromvega: there are many complicated ways to restrict or grant access in Squid
[06:08] <carinhosa> where to go? my laptop runs ubuntu, my desktop runs ubuntu...
[06:08] <adaptr> fromvega: squid-cache.org, read the examples
[06:08] <adaptr> carinhosa: so what is the printer connected to ?
[06:08] <gissi> fromvega: :) It is kinda complicated but as adaptr said, there are good examples on their site.
[06:08] <pip> hello everyone, i'm connected through my ethernet cable and i'm trying to get my belkin wireless dongle to connect. i'm new at this, can anyone help or point me towards a guide which will tell me what information i need to fill out the fields in the network manager? thx
[06:08] <bashir> i am still having a problem with login apps
[06:08] <carinhosa> the parallel port
[06:08] <bashir> when i log in i want some programs to open automatically
[06:08] <magicbronson_> i have a belkin wireless usb adapter, model #F5D6050. the drivers are compiled into my kernel, and i've installed the atmel-firmware package. i was able to connect with it once last night, but when i brought wlan0 down and back up to see if i could connect again, i no longer got dhcpoffers. so i upgraded from dapper to edgy and now "ifup wlan0" yields "wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device"
[06:08] <carinhosa> same case as on my desktop machine
[06:09] <bashir> but when i add them to the startup in sessions on logout they leave
[06:09] <bashir> any reason why htis is happening?
[06:09] <carinhosa> im wondering if it is possible to copy the relevant conf files from my desktop machine to my laptop...
[06:09] <adaptr> carinhosa: yes, but WHAT MACHINE
[06:09] <magicbronson_> ubotu: better?
[06:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about better? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:09] <carinhosa> its an normal personal computer
[06:10] <GreyGhost> magicbronson_ ,thats a bot.....
[06:10] <ReTyPe> GreyGhost: i have python 2.5 installed, but by default gramps uses 2.4xx, can i force it to use 2.5 ??
[06:10] <bashir> car i also use atel firmware and it works for me
[06:10] <magicbronson_> GreyGhost:  yeah, i realized...
[06:10] <kohr_> w3ccv. i listen to machine supremecy, DZK, irish drinking music, trance, and bineural beats
[06:10] <GreyGhost> magicbronson_ ,wait for some  one to answer u...in caase no one does ... repeate ur question after some time .....
[06:10] <bashir> you probably cant copy config files because they may need different kernels for some other hardware
[06:11] <magicbronson_> GreyGhost: ok, thanks
[06:11] <GreyGhost> ReTyPe , never tried that .... u can't just uninstall 2.4 ? if u have 2.5 ?
[06:11] <carinhosa> isnt it the right term for a personal computer, "desktop machine"?
[06:11] <adaptr> carinhosa: no, it's "personal computer"
[06:11] <kohr_> w3ccv. oh, and the PLA
[06:12] <carinhosa> okay i have personal computer, running ubuntu 6.10, this one connected to kyocera fs1030d via lpt, works fine
[06:12] <adaptr> carinhosa: okay.. and you have managed to simultaneously connect it to your laptop as well ? that would be.. novel
[06:12] <carinhosa> and i have a laptop, running ubuntu 6.10. this one also connected via lpt to the kyocera, doesnt work at all
[06:13] <carinhosa> no ;)
[06:13] <ReTyPe> GreyGhost: it want too uninstall a lot of programs when i do that , akkregator, amarok, xine, ....
[06:13] <adaptr> carinhosa: has this ever worked ? because I doubt it will
[06:13] <adaptr> carinhosa: just print via the desktop please, save us all a lot of headaches
[06:13] <VoiceOvGod> anyone here good with apache?
[06:13] <adaptr> VoiceOvGod: #apache ?
[06:13] <acasas92> hola
[06:14] <acasas92> tu puta mqadre
[06:14] <Goldfisch> VoiceOvGod: Your question needs a little more depth.
[06:14] <adaptr> as does your nick.. but I digress
[06:14] <GreyGhost> ReTyPe ,they don't work with 2.5 then?
[06:14] <pip>  i'm new at this, can anyone help or point me towards a guide which will tell me what information i need to fill out the fields in the network manager? i'm trying to connect with my belkin wireless dongle.
[06:15] <kohr_> pip,
[06:15] <adaptr> pip: does iwconfig show the interface ?
[06:15] <VoiceOvGod> Well, when I am attempting to connect to my localhost, it redirects me to some p2p site.
[06:15] <GreyGhost> !belkin
[06:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about belkin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:15] <marty> So, I just installed Edgy on this Gateway m520, and I can't get sound or wireless to work.
[06:15] <carinhosa> but the desktop is not always available and in this case i just want to plug the same cable of the same printer into the laptop that runs almost the same ubuntu system, i thought, if i do it as i did it on my desktop there wouldnt be any problem
[06:15] <kohr_> pip, are you encrypted?
[06:15] <adaptr> VoiceOvGod: connect by IP or hostname ?
[06:15] <GreyGhost> !wireless dongle
[06:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wireless dongle - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:15] <marty> Can anyone walk me through getting wireless to work?
[06:16] <adaptr> carinhosa: in that case yes, copy over your config and it should work
[06:16] <kohr_> marty. are you using encryption?
[06:16] <ReTyPe> GreyGhost: i dont know, but when removed, i think it will break a lot of things, when other things get deleted
[06:16] <marty> kohr_, no.
[06:16] <vrobles> hla
[06:16] <Mortuis> What file do I modify to change my repositories for apt-get?
[06:16] <VoiceOvGod> IP is fine, but just doing "localhost" gets me some site. My laptop cannot reproduce
[06:16] <kohr_> marty, does it detect your card?
[06:16] <adaptr> Mortuis: /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:16] <pip> adaptr: yes it does
[06:16] <Mortuis> thanks
[06:16] <Goldfisch> Mortuis: Either edit /etc/apt/sources.list or use Synaptic to edit it through the GUI.
[06:16] <marty> kohr_, I think so, lspci returns a card.
[06:16] <vrobles> de  donde  eres
[06:16] <kohr_> pip, you using encryption?
[06:16] <adaptr> vrobles: english...
[06:16] <Goldfisch> Mortuis: And after any edits, sudo apt-get update
[06:17] <marty> 01:09.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)
[06:17] <pip> kohr_: i don't think so, if you mean do i need a password, i've never needed one on windows
[06:17] <vrobles> hola  neneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[06:17] <vrobles> primooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[06:17] <kohr_> marty, when you click the connection propertys, and switch it to eth1
[06:17] <kohr_> marty, then click configure
[06:17] <vrobles> queeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee????????????????
[06:17] <carinhosa> adaptr: hmmm, i dont know what i have to copy... CUPS configuration, LPT connection, could you name me the files and directories that should do it?
[06:17] <GreyGhost> ReTyPe ,i guess it will .... Windows was easier at that .... i used to have 2.3 as well as 2.4 python installed both ran fine....
[06:18] <frandavid100> hi
[06:18] <Goldfisch> We needs an ops on this channel.
[06:18] <Goldfisch> !ops
[06:18] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!
[06:18] <kohr_> marty, and put in the name of the network, does it work?
[06:18] <frandavid100> any nintendo ds users who know if games can be uploaded to supercard from ubuntu?
[06:18] <marty> kohr_, nope, no luck.
[06:18] <kohr_> marty, tried that?
[06:18] <kohr_> how far did you get?
[06:18] <kohr_> i nominate myself for ops
[06:19] <vrobles> me  voyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy  valeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[06:19] <adaptr> carinhosa: do both systems run the same CUPS version ? how did you configure the printer on the desktop ? I would suggest first trying to re-do what you did there
[06:19] <marty> Everything you've said.  I'm looking here at the status, it says "Disconnected".
[06:19] <GreyGhost> vrobles ,english maybe?
[06:19] <kohr_> if elected, i would kick vrobles
[06:19] <carinhosa> yes, of course
[06:19] <marty> But it is active.
[06:19] <vrobles> adiossssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:19] <adaptr> good riddance
[06:19] <LinTux> I have mad a right cockup formatting my USB drive, please can somebody tell me how to format it with a file system that I can access and create dirs etc as at the moment I cannot do this?
[06:20] <Goldfisch> Where is a good, net-splitting, ops-promoting security hole when you need one!
[06:20] <VoiceOvGod> adaptr, the IP works fine, but a text url doesn't
[06:20] <fisheye> oh my...
[06:20] <fisheye> ubuntus gone mad
[06:20] <kohr_> marty you typed in the SSID and everything? try using netapplet, it might get something
[06:20] <fisheye> it goes all black when folling arround blender
[06:20] <carinhosa> adaptr: i tried to but as i have no possibility to do the same because there is no way to get behind this point of not having the option to choose, i couldnt
[06:20] <adaptr> VoiceOvGod: and you have DNS administrative control over the hostname ?
[06:20] <Goldfisch> VoiceOvGod: Is this => "127.0.0.1       localhost" <= in your /etc/hosts file?
[06:21] <marty> kohr_, yep typed it in...  netapplet?  run it from terminal?
[06:21] <adaptr> carinhosa: that's... not all that clear, but if you mean you CANNOT repeat the steps, then the point where it fails is the point where you need to start investigating
[06:21] <Goldfisch> Isn't that nm-applet?
[06:21] <kohr_> marty, you need to apt-get it
[06:21] <kohr_> marty, its not that good
[06:21] <carinhosa> i simply cannot choose the connection, so i cannot configure the ppd and so on
[06:21] <VoiceOvGod> ok... I am missing the hosts file
[06:22] <adaptr> VoiceOvGod: that's unlikely
[06:22] <VoiceOvGod> oops, yeah, pebcak there.
[06:22] <kohr_> marty, wireless is the hardest thing you will have to do on linux
[06:22] <VoiceOvGod> I've got my computer name instead of localhost.
[06:23] <adaptr> VoiceOvGod: okay.,. and what URL did you try to acess apache with ?
[06:23] <carinhosa> adaptr: to say it more clearly: i know the steps, but if i do it, the reaction of the laptop is different to that of the desktop
[06:23] <Goldfisch> VoiceOvGod: Its okay to have something like "127.0.0.1     localhost myhost" <= It just means, both of those hostnames will resolve to 127.0.0.1.
[06:23] <VoiceOvGod> http://localhost/
[06:23] <kohr_> marty, you still there?
[06:24] <gissi> lupine_85: Bootstrap worked, thanks for the hand.
[06:24] <VoiceOvGod> ooh, its showing 127.0.1.1, not 127.0.0.1
[06:24] <lupine_85> np :)
[06:24] <adaptr> carinhosa: then it is reasonable to suspect that your laptop does not have the exact same packages installed
[06:24] <fisheye> as anyone had blender turn your screen compltetely black? like the comand line??
[06:24] <lupine_85> VoiceOvGod: yeah, ubuntu does that for some reason
[06:24] <Goldfisch> VoiceOvGod: Well, that makes a difference too!
[06:24] <carinhosa> it does
[06:24] <lupine_85> localhost is still 127.0.0.1
[06:24] <fisheye> I need to work and this is going beserk
[06:24] <funkyHat> carinhosa, have you checked your lpt port is enabled in the laptop's bios?
[06:24] <VoiceOvGod> so should I fix that?
[06:24] <adaptr> carinhosa: okay, then I would try to completely remove cups from the laptop, delete anything left hanging, and re-install it
[06:25] <funkyHat> (sorry if I'm not getting your problem, just a suggestion)
[06:25] <ismail> hey guys is there program like flash and hash animation?
[06:25] <adaptr> funkyHat: sheez.. never even thought of that
[06:25] <carinhosa> funkyHat: yes, i even changed it to EEP because several forum posts supposed that
[06:25] <adaptr> ismail: what exactly do you mean ? you mean a program like MacroMedia Flash ?
[06:25] <marty> kohr_, it says wireless disabled in netapplet
[06:25] <gissi> carinhosa: Maybe your parallel port didn't get detected? "dmesg | grep parport" should give you something...
[06:25] <cezeta> Hello: a question for ubuntu 6.10 desktop: I have a PDA, anyone has sync with ?
[06:25] <carinhosa> adaptr: this i have done already as well
[06:26] <Maheanuu> Has anyone here managed to set up a raid5 array for a MSI K9N SLI Platinum MB with Geforce 7900 GS graphics card and 5 Maxtor SataII 300 gig hd's???
[06:26] <adaptr> ismail: Hash Animaiton Master is so totally different from Flash I don't understand why you mention it - unless you don't know what these programs actually do.
[06:26] <ismail> adatr: yeah a program to make animations to be used in websites
[06:26] <funkyHat> cezeta, which type of pda? windows or palm or some other?
[06:26] <carinhosa> dmesg | grep parport
[06:26] <carinhosa> [17179600.720000]  parport_pc: probe of 00:09 failed with error -22
[06:26] <ismail> i said something like
[06:26] <VoiceOvGod> Goldfisch should I fix the hosts file?
[06:26] <gissi> carinhosa: There you go
[06:26] <arulin> #cdaction
[06:26] <adaptr> ismail: there are several.. look in your packages
[06:27] <carinhosa> okay, next step?
[06:27] <ismail> ok what should i look for
[06:27] <Goldfisch> VoiceOvGod: Well, first can you ping 127.0.0.1? If so, then fix /etc/hosts so localhost resolves to that IP address.
[06:27] <gissi> carinhosa: What is your laptop model?
[06:27] <marty> netapplet is saying wireless is disabled
[06:27] <robbbb> anyone got any thoughts on why my window positioning in beryl isn't working right?
[06:27] <ismail> adaptr: what should i look for
[06:27] <sargas> i need some help
[06:27] <carinhosa> maxdata pro 7100X
[06:28] <robbbb> anyone know about beryl and where it puts new windows?
[06:28] <sargas> ive unstalled ekiga and thunderbird
[06:28] <carinhosa> http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/65144/
[06:28] <sargas> and my dpkg got an unknow error
[06:28] <kohr_> marty,try going into the network configuration again, and reselectiing it
[06:28] <VoiceOvGod> ok, so in the file I will have 127.0.0.1              (computername) localhost ?
[06:28] <carinhosa> (dont try to read german, only the english commands and specs)
[06:28] <kohr_> marty,my wireless card is extreamly stuborn
[06:28] <robbbb> all my windows appear behind existing ones
[06:28] <sargas> "see Conflicts in /var/dpkg/status"
[06:28] <Goldfisch> VoiceOvGod: Not sure if this matters, but I'd put "localhost" before "computername".
[06:28] <funkyHat> robbbb, yeah, it's not as good as metacity at placing windows... I don't know of a way to improve it though... there are a couple of options in the put module I think
[06:28] <marty> Is ndiswrapper something I should look into here?
[06:29] <VoiceOvGod> ok
[06:29] <sargas> and
[06:29] <sargas> i cant install anything
[06:29] <kohr_> marty wouldn't know
[06:29] <funkyHat> robbbb, oh... I've not had it that bad... can you get them to come forward by selecting them?
[06:29] <sargas> cause it affects everything that is based upon dpkg
[06:29] <sargas> such Synaptic
[06:29] <sargas> update-manager
[06:29] <robbbb> funkyHat> yeah i've tried messing with those options
[06:29] <sargas> etc
[06:29] <CheyenneD> How do i find the ending of a fiel
[06:29] <Goldfisch> Now THAT's a quote.
[06:29] <acke> hi im writing a bashscript in wich i am doing wine "myapp.exe" and a rowbreak, then i do sleep 30. but it seems as if the script doesnt continue after the wine call. is there a way around it?
[06:29] <robbbb> funkyHat: yeah i can move them all by clicking
[06:29] <LinTux> how can I format an ext3 partition on an external drive
[06:29] <carinhosa> :gissi modprobe lp doesnt change anything but its listed in the device manager (gertemanaeger in german)
[06:29] <Kervan> doues ubuntu support Intel 82855 GME?
[06:29] <marty> Nope, still stating wireless as disabled.
[06:29] <Kervan> graphic card
[06:30] <robbbb> also new dialogues steal the focus!
[06:30] <acke> Its my first bashscript
[06:30] <sargas> i cant install anything
[06:30] <sargas> cause it affects everything that is based upon dpkg
[06:30] <kohr_> marty you went to the connection properties?
[06:30] <marty> Hrm, I went into BIOS earlier and made sure that the radio is turned on by default.
[06:30] <sargas> such Synaptic
[06:30] <sargas> update-manager
[06:30] <VoiceOvGod> Goldfisch, thank you very much.
[06:30] <sargas> etc
[06:30] <marty> kohr_, yep
[06:30] <leobs> hola
[06:30] <kohr_> marty and you enabled it?
[06:30] <Goldfisch> acke: Is it supposed to go on, while wine runs in the background? If so, you need to put a "&" on the tail of the wine command.
[06:30] <gissi> carinhosa: Yes, my German is very bad...
[06:30] <funkyHat> LinTux, what program are you using to format partitions?
[06:30] <marty> kohr_, yep
[06:30] <Goldfisch> ;)
[06:30] <acke> Goldfisch, yeah ofcrouse thanks alot
[06:30] <kohr_> but it didn't connect?
[06:31] <leobs> hola
[06:31] <LinTux> Funkhat: I was told to use makefs, but the drive is then Read Only
[06:31] <marty> kohr_, it still showed as "wireless disabled" in netapplet
[06:31] <VoiceOvGod> lol
[06:31] <carinhosa> :gissi ;) i just wanted you to see the commands i have tried, i hope you could identify them among all that brutal language...
[06:31] <funkyHat> LinTux, ahh, in that case you've done it right, you just need to set the permissions for the drive
[06:31] <CheyenneD> How do I find a ending of a file?
[06:31] <kohr_> well, netapplet is pretty buggy
[06:31] <leobs> hi
[06:32] <Goldfisch> CheyenneD: You mean navigate to the end of a text file in, say, vi?
[06:32] <robbbb> CheyenneD: tail
[06:32] <marty> In the normal applet in GNOME, it says under status of the eth1, the wireless, as "Disconnected".
[06:32] <marty> So, they're confirming one another, at least.
[06:33] <marty> What's the command line way of activating a NIC?
[06:33] <CheyenneD> Goldfisch: No the suffix, such as *.exe, *.bin, *.iso
[06:33] <funkyHat> marty, tried network-manager?
[06:33] <marty> funkyHat, apt-getting it right now, I guess
[06:33] <kohr_> marty, try configure network settings
[06:33] <kohr_> marty, in netapplet
[06:34] <funkyHat> marty, get network-manager-gnome too (there's a kde version of the applet too but I can't remember what it's package name is)
[06:34] <marty> kohr_, which brings me to the normal network settings screen.
[06:34] <Goldfisch> CheyenneD: Well, I can think of a way to that in Python, but not on the shell command linel.
[06:34] <Chachee> anyone on here help me with a wine question?
[06:34] <kohr_> marty and you sellected your wireless?
[06:34] <marty> kohr_, yep, selected and activated
[06:34] <funkyHat> !ask | Chachee
[06:34] <ubotu> Chachee: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:34] <Chachee> ;p; kk
[06:34] <Goldfisch> I bet awk/sed could be used to chop up a filename to get the suffix.
[06:35] <kohr_> marty maybe funkyhat can help
[06:35] <Chachee> I installed wine, DL the program I wanted, got it installed, got it linked in Naut so it'll run
[06:35] <CheyenneD> Goldfisch: Is there a simple way to find a suffix of a file
[06:35] <marty> funkyHat, done
[06:35] <marty> funkyHat, now what/
[06:35] <taccuino> hey... i have q question
[06:35] <Chachee> however, when I exit the program it creates a link on the desktop to a ini file
[06:35] <SilentDis> hello :)
[06:35] <kohr_> !ask |taccuino
[06:35] <ubotu> taccuino: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:35] <Goldfisch> CheyenneD: Well I tried "man -k suffix" and didn't turn up a UNIX command for that.
[06:35] <Chachee> anyone know a way I can make it so that doesn't happen
[06:35] <linux_kid> How do I install Pictosniff?
[06:36] <kohr_> ! your problem |chachee
[06:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about your problem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:36] <un_operateur> CheyenneD,  for i in `ls -1`; do perl -e '$_=pop; print /\.(.*?)$/' $i; done
[06:36] <taccuino> in my bash skript i want to know if the apache is started; i do this with [ -z `ps -A | grep apache` ]  ; then
[06:36] <funkyHat> marty, log out and back in and it will appear in your notification area
[06:36] <Goldfisch> CheyenneD: awk/sed are command line apps that can pattern-parse text strings, including filenames. I'm not really familiar with their syntax.
[06:36] <taccuino> but then comes a ... hm *g* error message (i am not so good in englisch *gg)
[06:36] <gissi> carinhosa: :) Not really... I'm seeking for information on the error -22. Did you try another settings for Parallel port on the BIOS? Such as another address or Interrupt?
[06:37] <carinhosa> not yet
[06:37] <taccuino> line 13: [: too many arguments
[06:37] <Goldfisch> taccunio: You may have to filter out your "grep" command. Check out "pgrep apache"
[06:37] <carinhosa> what do you suppose me to choose?
[06:37] <SilentDis> quick question:  i have 2 ubuntu machines on my network.  what's a simple proggie I can use to 'chat' between the 2 that's unobtrusive (small icon next to the clock would be ideal), and doesn't need a server running?  I'm thinking along the lines of winpopup for windows or the like.
[06:37] <fromvega> can I install SquidGuard through apt-get?
[06:37] <marty> funkyHat, it's only showing "Wired Connection" as an option
[06:38] <marty> fromvega, I don't know, give it a shot. ;)
[06:38] <taccuino> can help me someone?^^
[06:38] <funkyHat> fromvega, apt-cache search squid ;)
[06:38] <funkyHat> marty :-( oh no
[06:38] <tdd1984> hey guys i changed my display settings to wide screen, under device 1, and now I am getting the shell prompt? I'm in the xorg.conf, but don't knoww hat to edit to get it back to normal?
[06:38] <marty> funkyHat, oh no?
[06:39] <gissi> carinhosa: Not sure... Just wanted to rule out hardware conflicts, though it should be no problem nowadays...
[06:39] <maurox> hello does someone knows why on my machine sudenly i lose internet conneccion ???? it is no a problem from ISP
[06:39] <robbbb> i've got a couple of issues with my edgy install (upgrade)
[06:39] <robbbb> 1. the screensaver is always blank and i have to guess where to put my passowrd with the mouse (cos i've got autofocus on)
[06:39] <carinhosa> gissi: im not sure neither as i changed the default value to EEP
[06:39] <SilentDis> taccuino, 1-might wanna check into your native language support area (what language do you speak?).  2-i'm not sure exactly what you're looking to do, but just be sure #!/bin/bash is the first line if it's a bash script, and not #!/bin/sh (default shell in edgy is dash)
[06:39] <robbbb> 2. the power management doesn't work very well - doesn't tell me when my battery is getting flat
[06:39] <funkyHat> marty, means your card most likely isn't supported by network-manager yet, so you'll have to carry on doing it the harder way... I doubt I'll be able to help you much with that
[06:40] <robbbb> any help would be very much apreciated
[06:40] <marty> funkyHat, do you know anyone who will be able to help?
[06:40] <gissi> carinhosa: Mine is on SPP, see if this changes anything
[06:41] <un_operateur> robbbb, please check the forums , other people with these issues will have posted there
[06:41] <linopil> !aiglx
[06:41] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.
[06:41] <carinhosa> okay, then im offline for a while, thank alot so far!
[06:41] <carinhosa> ;)
[06:41] <tobias>  /join #pantheon
[06:41] <tobias>  join #pantheon
[06:41] <taccuino> SilentDis i speak german, but there noone has an idea.... i use dapper and my first line is #!/bin/bash
[06:41] <tobias> #pantheon
[06:41] <robbbb> i've already checked the forums
[06:42] <SilentDis> taccuino, other than that, i couldn't recommend anything.  i haven't really had need/want to get into much heavy bash scripting yet.  *shrug*
[06:42] <LinTux> I formatted A USB drive, but it is read only, it will not allow to change the permissions and it says the owner is root, I want to re partition it and format it with a totally accessable filesystem, ho do I do this in terminal?
[06:43] <SilentDis> LinTux, you could try mounting it with -o user to allow users access to it
[06:43] <darius_> I partially installed a 'hal' packaged that was made for Edgy, onto Dapper.  It looks like it unpacked the binaries, etc into the target directories before realizing that many dependencies were missing.  How can I recover from this?  I'd like to upgrade to edgy but right now the package manager won't let me do anything without resolving this screwup.
[06:44] <LinTux> how do I do that permantently
[06:44] <SilentDis> LinTux, also, for usb drives, their purpose is portability, i'd recommend a fat32 partition (easier to transfer between linux/windows/mac/etc)
[06:44] <un_operateur> taccuino, maybe this --  if [[ `ps aux | grep -i apache` ] ] ; then echo yes; fi
[06:44] <SilentDis> quick question:  i have 2 ubuntu machines on my network.  what's a simple proggie I can use to 'chat' between the 2 that's unobtrusive (small icon next to the clock would be ideal), and doesn't need a server running?  I'm thinking along the lines of winpopup for windows or the like.
[06:44] <LinTux> silentdis give me the command to use in terminal
[06:45] <Answer> Hello, my server just started asking for passwords for ssh sessions.  The authorized_keys have been setup for months, and it does not look like anything has changed.  I deleted and recreated the authorized_keys file but it still asks for passwords from every client that was previously accepted.  Any suggestions?
[06:45] <mnoir> CheyenneD: here is a start - echo 'a.b'|awk -F\. '{ print $2 }'   will produce 'b'
[06:46] <maxsoft> hi all. I've a problem with ubuntu software-update.
[06:46] <un_operateur> taccuino, also check for the pid file -- if [[ -e /var/run/apache2.pid ] ] ; then echo yes; fi
[06:46] <taccuino> un_operateur: thanks, it runs.. but why? can you explain me why ?^^
[06:46] <SilentDis> LinTux, what format did you make the drive?  edgy and dapper both mount fat32 drives as accessable to all users by default.
[06:46] <maxsoft> I click on "update" button and it doesnt doanithing.
[06:46] <maxsoft> can you help me ?
[06:46] <SilentDis> LinTux, to format the drive, or to mount it?
[06:46] <LinTux> It was ext3
[06:46] <LinuxHelp> Hi, um, how can I install libdvdcss?
[06:47] <un_operateur> taccuino,  [[ condition ] ]   will return TRUE if the condition succeeeds .. so if apache is running, that expression returns TRUE
[06:47] <LinTux> to partionit then format fat32
[06:47] <SpacePuppy> !dvd
[06:47] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:47] <un_operateur> taccuino, does that help?
[06:47] <[^Twen^] > Is there anything special I have to do to get the VNC/vino work in Ubuntu?
[06:48] <[^Twen^] > rather than change the options in the menu?
[06:48] <LinTux> lets format it fat32 first
[06:48] <SpacePuppy> maxsoft: does it mean that your boxen is updated? what happens when you fire up synaptic?
[06:48] <SilentDis> LinTux, to mount it, it would be sudo mount /dev/sda1 (change to be accurate for your drive) /media/mountpoint (again, change to be accurate for you) -o user
[06:48] <noelferreira> lupine_85: any news for beryl?
[06:48] <taccuino> un_operatur but why two [[ and ] ] 
[06:48] <Answer> Hello, my server just started asking for passwords for ssh sessions.  The authorized_keys have been setup for months, and it does not look like anything has changed.  I deleted and recreated the authorized_keys file but it still asks for passwords from every client that was previously accepted.  Any suggestions?
[06:48] <maxsoft> SpacePuppy: it tell me that exist 49 updates to do.
[06:49] <SilentDis> LinuxHelp, I pulled mine from the debian package list and just double clicked.  give me a moment,  i'll get you a link
[06:49] <SpacePuppy> maxsoft: are you entering the correct password?
[06:49] <maxsoft> yes
[06:49] <lupine_85> noelferreira: yes. it seems that fglrx_dri error should only show up when running X.org > 7.2rc2 with the fglrx 8.32.5 drivers
[06:49] <LinuxHelp> SpacePuppy, that wiki link, lists only packages for Ubuntu 6.06 , I need 6.10
[06:49] <maxsoft> SpacePuppy: just a moment I try to run it in terminal.
[06:49] <noelferreira> ok
[06:49] <squilla> hi guys - severe feisty problem here - is there a more appropriate room?
[06:50] <noelferreira> so it will be fixed next version, is that so?
[06:50] <un_operateur> taccuino, errm, good question -- I don't really know, you can ask in #bash
[06:50] <xecto> Is there a new theme for usplash now in ubuntu feisty?
[06:50] <neskato23> hi guys, why cant I "copy" images from firefox, just to copy in writer? ive tried with gnome clipboard daemon... but no way
[06:50] <Rob-West> how can i check my mobo info in Ubuntu
[06:50] <carinhosa> :gissi hello
[06:50] <SilentDis> LinuxHelp, http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.9/deb/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-1_i386.deb
[06:51] <SpacePuppy> maxsoft: so when you click on "install updates" in Software Updates is when nothing happens?
[06:51] <noelferreira> so it will be fixed next version, is that so lupine_85?
[06:51] <Haldor> Hi all
[06:51] <maxsoft> SpacePuppy: I try right click on notify icon and make ininstallation... now it sems work... it are downloading
[06:51] <SpacePuppy> ahh the power of the net
[06:51] <gissi> carinhosa: Hello... Anything on the dmesg | grep parport
[06:52] <gissi> ?
[06:52] <lupine_85> noelferreira: hopefully
[06:52] <taccuino> un_operatur: okay... last question: if the expression is "" then nothing happens and if the expression not "" then the bash echos "yes"
[06:52] <Haldor> Anyone has any experience with installing ICA-Clients on ubuntu?
[06:52] <SilentDis> quick question:  i have 2 ubuntu machines on my network.  what's a simple proggie I can use to 'chat' between the 2 that's unobtrusive (small icon next to the clock would be ideal), and doesn't need a server running?  I'm thinking along the lines of winpopup for windows or the like.
[06:52] <noelferreira> ok
[06:52] <noelferreira> thanks
[06:52] <carinhosa> YES! ;) i changed from eep to ecp!
[06:52] <carinhosa> default value was eep+ecp
[06:52] <maxsoft> SpacePuppy: in the terminal I see that it have problem to run "dbus" module... perhaps notify icon make some problem to "software updates"
[06:53] <ruben> Hi, what is the way to see the status of my laptop battery via command line?
[06:53] <carinhosa> so let me try the whole thing once again
[06:53] <linopil> SilentDis: interesting
[06:53] <LinuxHelp> ruben, install a package called "acpi", that did it for me
[06:53] <carinhosa> ([17179597.880000]  parport: PnPBIOS parport detected.
[06:53] <carinhosa> [17179597.880000]  parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778), irq 7, dma 0 [PCSPP,TRISTATE,COMPAT,ECP,DMA] 
[06:53] <carinhosa> [17179597.884000]  parport0: Printer, Kyocera FS-1030D
[06:53] <carinhosa> [17179602.276000]  lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven).)
[06:53] <carinhosa> so you know what makes me happy
[06:53] <ruben> thanks
[06:53] <gissi> carinhosa: Nice :)
[06:54] <neskato23> so, what about image copying to clipboard?
[06:54] <Rob-West> how can i check my mobo info in Ubuntu
[06:54] <linopil> carinhosa: come to #linguistics
[06:54] <SilentDis> linopil, i have a rather neophyte housemate that's a good walk/shout across the house.  seems just an intelligent way to solve the problem when she has questions :)
[06:54] <squilla> I just rebooted and grub says my /dev/hda3 dos not exist - any help?
[06:54] <Rob-West> or can someone help me find the VIA S3 graphics drivers
[06:55] <LinuxHelp> Hmm, drip is still telling me that libdvdcss is not installed..
[06:55] <Rob-West> http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=pM8M-v&class=mb
[06:55] <fisheye> CRAP!
[06:55] <Rob-West> for this motherboard
[06:55] <SilentDis> Rob-West, poking ubotu on the s3...
[06:55] <fisheye> now i cant get tomboy yo work....
[06:55] <SilentDis> !s3
[06:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about s3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:55] <gissi> carinhosa: Oh, nice machine by the way, I just read the specs of it :)
[06:55] <Haldor> Squilla: why not try to fix your file sysetem and partitions with the livecd?
[06:55] <squilla> !feisty
[06:55] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[06:55] <tdd1984>  hey guys I changed my resulution, and device 1 under the video configuration to wide screen, but now im getting the shell prompt, how do i get this to boot back up?
[06:56] <squilla> Haldor: they not broken - I think it was the upgrade
[06:56] <recon> is there any way to make sound juicer extract to mp3?
[06:56] <carinhosa> no no no linopil, it just worked!!!!!!!! thanks to all that helped me or at least helped me to think!!!!!!
[06:56] <carinhosa> yes yes yes!
[06:56] <Subhuman> is there a way to find out what version of ubuntu is running on a machine from the shell? like a "uname -a" but for the version (Edgy dapper etC)
[06:56] <carinhosa> i LOVE ubuntu!
[06:56] <LinuxHelp> I wonder, is there a gui alternative to drip (the gui dvd to .avi saver)?
[06:56] <SilentDis> recon, i believe sound juicer works on the gstreamer framework.. this will help.
[06:56] <SilentDis> !mp3 | recon
[06:56] <ubotu> recon: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:57] <squilla> Haldor: Googling tells me to put pnpacpi=off on the boot command line - but I suck at Grub
[06:57] <fisheye> has anyone had problems using tomboy?
[06:57] <LinuxHelp> squilla, how can you suck at grub?
[06:57] <recon> while i'm on, is there any way to "rename" an iPod shuffle?
[06:57] <Haldor> lol
[06:58] <squilla> LinuxHelp: well - using c and e and all that does not give feedback - so if I make changes i don't know if they're commited or not
[06:58] <neskato23> ohh... i just wanna copy-paste pics from firefox! why i cant??
[06:58] <vleon> ok lets try again, it seems that i have problems with my gnome, for example when i update my apllications menu with menu layout, it is updated only after a restart, also when i use my gnome and the log off and log back in some part of the interface arent loaded like the upper and lower bar, and or the wallpaper. also when i change my session to a full terminal one (by pressing ctrl + alt + F1) i get a screen with lots of colors and no te
[06:58] <vleon>   rminal
[06:58] <Haldor> No-one here have experience installing ICA clients on Ubuntu?
[06:58] <LinuxHelp> squilla, um okay, but I have no idea what you're talking 'bout, I just nano -w /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:58] <n2diy> neskato23: Right click on the pics, and then save as.
[06:58] <Kingsqueak> neskato23: you should be able to drag/drop them out of the browser
[06:59] <Rob-West> i hate VIA
[06:59] <gissi> carinhosa: Thanks for letting us know the result, I believe there is a laptop database somewhere where this should be mentioned. If you can write German, you can reply on the forum post you sent me.
[06:59] <Rob-West> they dont make a Ubuntu driver
[06:59] <LinuxHelp> I hate all chipsets
[06:59] <squilla> LinuxHelp: I see - prob is I can't boot - hda, hda1 and hda2 are there but hda3 is gone :-( - so I get a busybox shell, which is very limited
[07:00] <neskato23> ill try drag&drop, Kingsqueak... but why is not "copy" option in the menu?
[07:00] <Haldor> Gues no-one uses Citrix here
[07:00] <Rob-West> !S3
[07:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about S3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:00] <LinuxHelp> squilla, and where, pray do tell, is your Ubuntu install disc?
[07:00] <Haldor> How About Alien?
[07:00] <Rob-West> !help
[07:00] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:00] <carinhosa> thats what i did...
[07:00] <n2diy> neskato23: save as is the same thing as copy!
[07:01] <neskato23> oh... nope... drag-drop doesnt work
[07:01] <Rob-West> i needto find a linux driver for my onboard video
[07:01] <squilla> LinuxHelp: I'm on feisty - upgraded online from edgy - I have  an edgy live disk but I'm afraid to lose Gigs of upgrades etc
[07:01] <carinhosa> and i kindly asked the administrators to update the ubuntuusers.de hardware database as it is RO (i cant understand why)
[07:01] <neskato23> no, n2diy... cause if i "copy", then in writer i have just to "paste"... but if i save, then i need to open and insert... and its more complex, and a waste of time!
[07:01] <Answer> Hello, my server just started asking for passwords for ssh sessions.  The authorized_keys have been setup for months, and it does not look like anything has changed.  I deleted and recreated the authorized_keys file but it still asks for passwords from every client that was previously accepted.  Any suggestions?
[07:01] <IdleOne> neskato23,  drag/drop just creates a hyperlink to the image if you want to save the image you will have to Save image as
[07:01] <Haldor> When I convert the rpm to a deb package it just converts into a stupid folder I can't do anything with.
[07:02] <n2diy> neskato23: but it gets you the pic.
[07:02] <neskato23> but in windows (sorry for the word), i just can copy-paste... even in knoppix i could : (
[07:02] <n2diy> Rob-West: any available slots on the mom board?
[07:02] <magicbronson_> anyone have any experience with belkin usb wifi adapters?
[07:02] <Kingsqueak> IdleOne: no it doesn't, drag/drop saves the file to ~/Desktop if you drop it there
[07:02] <IdleOne> Kingsqueak,  I just tried it and it cretaed a link to the image on the desktop
[07:02] <marty> It would appear that my radio is turned off.  How can I turn it on?
[07:03] <Kingsqueak> IdleOne: then you have something off there, it saves the file here
[07:03] <obstfliege> how can i recover the trayicon bar ?
[07:03] <IdleOne> Kingsqueak, posible but I have no need for it so I just save image as
[07:04] <vleon> can someone help me please
[07:04] <vleon> ?
[07:05] <Zaggynl> vleon, only if you ask the question itself ;-)
[07:05] <obstfliege> lol
[07:05] <obstfliege> how can i recover the trayicon bar ?
[07:05] <vleon> i already did numerous times :)
[07:05] <vleon> ok lets try again, it seems that i have problems with my gnome, for example when i update my apllications menu with menu layout, it is updated only after a restart, also when i use my gnome and the log off and log back in some part of the interface arent loaded like the upper and lower bar, and or the wallpaper. also when i change my session to a full terminal one (by pressing ctrl + alt + F1) i get a screen with lots of colors and no te
[07:05] <IdleOne> vleon,  if nobody has tried to help it may be because they dont know the answer
[07:05] <vleon>   rminal
[07:05] <petafile> For some reason, my sound card only works about half the times I boot my laptop.  Its very strange, anyone know why tha is?  its an ati ac97 card
[07:05] <sjust1216> Hi all I installed amarok and now I have all these KDE applications how to I remove them and still keep amarok
[07:06] <nuked_omen> !lyx
[07:06] <sjust1216> not that there is anything wrong with KDE
[07:06] <ubotu> lyx: High Level Word Processor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.2-4 (edgy), package size 478 kB, installed size 1444 kB
[07:06] <marty> My sound on a Gateway m520 laptop isn't working, can anyone help me troubleshoot?
[07:06] <maurox> it is neccesary to add brocast to interfaces for static ip ???
[07:06] <IdleOne> sjust1216, one at a time
[07:06] <sjust1216> ok
[07:07] <mnoir> vleon: what you are presenting is very odd - sounds like something is very wrong with basic config/install
[07:07] <robbbb> what do you guys use for playing DVD's?
[07:07] <robbbb> mplayer is way out of sync
[07:07] <mnoir> vleon: have you tried making a new user?
[07:07] <ephesius> os[Linux 2.6.15-27-686 - Debian testing/unstable]  up[ 57 minutes]  cpu[Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1500MHz, 1495.317 MHz (1197.34 bogomips)]  mem[ 840.37/1263.58 MB (66.5%)]  video[ at 1024x768 (24 bits)] 
[07:07] <mnoir> has it always done this?
[07:07] <IdleOne> dvd player and my 32" t.v :)
[07:09] <lovloss> I have a movie rendering in blender, but when its done i want to add a quick 2D animation to the end with some kind of video editor. does anyone know of any software that will help me? I have kino, so i can splice something in pretty easily, but i dont know much about animation and the like...
[07:09] <CheyenneD> can i use windows drivers in linux
[07:09] <adaptr> sometimes
[07:09] <lovloss> CheyenneD: You wouldnt really need them...
[07:09] <Zaggynl> heh
[07:09] <Zaggynl> dcc exploit
[07:10] <tdd1984> sorry got disconnect what you say
[07:10] <robbbb> what do you lot use to play dvd's?
[07:10] <un_operateur> !css
[07:10] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:10] <Zaggynl> vlc mostly
[07:10] <lovloss> robbbb I prefer ogle
[07:10] <CheyenneD> lovloss: I have a Buffalo Airstation WLI-CB-G54HP, I only can find windows drivers for it.
[07:11] <robbbb> anyone use mplayer successfully?
[07:11] <lovloss> CheyenneD: Wait, what kind of thing is it?
[07:11] <CheyenneD> lovloss: A WiFi Card for a laptop.
[07:11] <Kingsqueak> robbbb: have you tried different video output modules yet?  Try changing them, Xv if you haven't would be the first I'd try
[07:11] <Zaggynl> wth is going on?
[07:11] <petafile> no ideas why my soundcard only works half the time?
[07:12] <lovloss> why is there so much kickingg...
[07:12] <Zaggynl> DBO is going wild
[07:12] <un_operateur> cleanup time
[07:12] <robbbb> ok i'll give it a whirl
[07:12] <lovloss> I dunno about wifi cards... sorry
[07:12] <DBO> sorry for the spam folks
[07:12] <DBO> all done
[07:12] <jesushub> #channel
[07:13] <Zaggynl> ?
[07:13] <lovloss> So does anyone know where i might *go* to ask about 2D animating? I really have no idea what program to use
[07:13] <CheyenneD> I have a WiFi card that I want to use with my laptop, but I can only find windows drivers for it. Can I use them with Linux?
[07:13] <petafile> CheyenneD, ndiswrapper :)
[07:13] <infidel> CheyenneD: what card?
[07:14] <redcard> Odd question.. does anyone happen to have the OpenDNS Nameserver info?
[07:14] <redcard> My Comcast Nameservers are down :P
[07:14] <IdleOne> lovloss, found this on google http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/09/12/1339203
[07:14] <un_operateur> redcard, you can use any of the root dns servers -- a.root-servers.net e.g.
[07:14] <CheyenneD> infidel: Buffalo Airstation WLI-CB-G54HP.
[07:14] <IdleOne> lovloss,  google ktoon
[07:14] <Fibbs> Hi folks
[07:14] <redcard> un_operateur: Okay..
[07:14] <lovloss> :3 Thanks!!
[07:15] <Fibbs> can anybody take a look on this: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/6230/, having problems dpkg telling me that it does not find a suitable ramdisk generation tool...
[07:16] <Kingsqueak> redcard: 128.8.74.2 is open to get you going
[07:16] <infidel> CheyenneD: that's a good question
[07:17] <redcard> Kingsqueak:  Hmm.. It looks like it migh be something else.. oh well.. thanks anyway :)
[07:17] <Naik0> how do i make a file
[07:17] <Naik0> in term
[07:17] <gnomefreak> Fibbs: you might want to try in #ubuntu-de since they are dutch this is engllish channel
[07:17] <mnoir> Naik0: > touch <filenamr>
[07:17] <Naik0> thanks
[07:18] <mnoir> uuh filename  :)
[07:18] <Zaggynl> gnomefreak, ... .de = germany .nl = dutch/holland/netherlands
[07:18] <Fibbs> gnomefreak: Didn't i ask in english?
[07:18] <gnomefreak> Fibbs: you pasted in dutch
[07:18] <gnomefreak> dutch/german
[07:18] <Fibbs> gnomefreak: it was german, sorry for it.
[07:18] <Zaggynl> dutch != german
[07:18] <kkfoxcc> ubunbtu rocks
[07:18] <mnoir> de = German not Dutch
[07:19] <kkfoxcc> akk of ya user what about the server who though ubuntu would be in server
[07:19] <kkfoxcc> soooo cool
[07:19] <mnoir> hmm -  kk = what language?
[07:20] <Fibbs> okay so again, set LANG to "C"
[07:20] <Fibbs> http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/6231/
[07:20] <gnomefreak> Fibbs: sudo apt-get -f install
[07:20] <kkfoxcc> ask man
[07:21] <gnomefreak> Fibbs: try that see what it gives you
[07:21] <kkfoxcc> fingres go old
[07:21] <infidel> CheyenneD: look here at number 71 under the b's http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List#B
[07:21] <Fibbs> gnomefreak: this is what i did
[07:21] <taigeR> anybody using WINE?
[07:21] <gnomefreak> Fibbs: sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic
[07:22] <IdleOne> Fibbs,  you did install -f gnomefreak  wants you to do -f install
[07:22] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: same thing
[07:22] <IdleOne> unless I misread
[07:22] <Fibbs> idlemind: its the same thing
[07:22] <gnomefreak> doesnt matter where the -f is
[07:22] <IdleOne> oh ok lol
[07:22] <infidel> anyone know anything about irda setup?
[07:22] <kkfoxcc> im debian user
[07:22] <gnomefreak> i skipped over that to read the errors
[07:22] <taigeR> how do i install wine applications?
[07:22] <Fibbs> and dpkg-reconfigure does not change anything, same error message
[07:22] <kkfoxcc> but ubuntu met me half way
[07:22] <Fibbs> there must be a problem with mkinitrd
[07:23] <Fibbs> but initramfs-tolls seems to be the last available version
[07:23] <Fibbs> so i dont know what the problem could be
[07:23] <kkfoxcc> what when i upgrade the kernel iptables went bad
[07:24] <gnomefreak> its not initramfs-tools
[07:24] <Fibbs> so its what?
[07:24] <gnomefreak> Fibbs: is this a dapper > edgy upgrade?
[07:24] <kiwibird> I have a network problem... i'm running ubuntu, came home and tried to connect to my parents wifi, and web pages load ok but i can't post content to web pages and any redirects (like from google hits) just turn blank, loading nothing forever. trying to log into gmail using elinks gives "unable to retrieve https://something post data: SSL ERROR" and blanks in firefox/opera. Anyone know why this happesn?
[07:24] <Fibbs> gnomefreak: no, it was an edgy fresh install, but some weeks ago
[07:25] <gnomefreak> Fibbs: why the new kernel?
[07:25] <Fibbs> don't remember when the error appeared, i ignored it until now, because didn't have time
[07:25] <taigeR> how do i install wine applications?
[07:26] <Fibbs> what package does contain mkinitramfs
[07:26] <epitiphlitis> can anyone recommend a free partition editor for windows?
[07:26] <gnomefreak> kernel has modules for it
[07:26] <gnomefreak> Fibbs: please answer my question
[07:27] <mnoir> !wine | taigeR
[07:27] <ubotu> taigeR: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:27] <cratel> I have 3 ethernet cards. ubuntu seems to randomly find two of them and assign them arbitrarily. This is making it very difficult on my scripts. Where's the 3rd and how can I force the assignments?
[07:27] <Fibbs> gnomefreak: why the new kernel? Umm, i had a self-compiled kernel after fresh ubuntu install because of software-suspend (2), but as it does not make sense with my hardware (2G of RAM, it takes years to write it down on disk) i decided to switch back to the ubuntu kernel.
[07:27] <epitiphlitis> can anybody hear me?
[07:28] <gnomefreak> Fibbs: did you remove everything you built?
[07:28] <Fibbs> But as i already told you, i don't remember when the error appeared
[07:28] <Fibbs> gnomefreak: no, should i?
[07:28] <crobra007> Giggle! i love you! BYE!
[07:28] <fanica> Giggle! i love you! BYE!
[07:28] <bostanmare> Giggle! i love you! BYE!
[07:28] <gnomefreak> Fibbs: its a good start
[07:28] <loveminus> Giggle! i love you! BYE!
[07:28] <mutu10> Giggle! i love you! BYE!
[07:28] <ilincatara> Giggle! i love you! BYE!
[07:28] <tonegud> Giggle! i love you! BYE!
[07:28] <spermozila> Giggle! i love you! BYE!
[07:28] <Fibbs> gnomefreak: But i booted ubuntu 2.6.17-generic right now.
[07:28] <mnoir> epitiphlitis: I can hear you but I do not know if anyone can recommend a windows partition editor.  Sorry
[07:29] <epitiphlitis> thanks mnoir
[07:29] <gnomefreak> Fibbs: does sudo dpkg --configure -a do anything?
[07:30] <gnomefreak> Fibbs: you cant be booted the the new kernel if it fails to install
[07:30] <Fibbs> gnomefreak: the same thing
[07:30] <gnomefreak> same thing?
[07:30] <epitiphlitis> i'm looking for a free partition editor to run in windows, i'm trying a poor mans installation
[07:30] <gnomefreak> Fibbs: errors?
[07:30] <Fibbs> why it is not able to find "a suitable ramdisk generation tool for kernel version 2.6.17-10-generic"?
[07:31] <epitiphlitis> partition magic is 70 bucks, screw that
[07:31] <Fibbs> gnomefreak: the same error as i pasted before
[07:31] <gnomefreak> Fibbs: have you tried to boot into the kernel yet?
[07:31] <Fibbs> gnomefreak: i am currently running it: uname -r ==> 2.6.17-10-generic
[07:31] <gnomefreak> Fibbs: hint it cant find it because you have unmet depends
[07:32] <gnomefreak> Fibbs: what version is it 33? 34?
[07:32] <moogman> Hello everyone, I have a question: I've downloaded (and running at this moment), the Edgy Desktop live CD. I need to set up LVM, so is there a package I can install "on-the-fly", to let Ubiquity recognise a LVM setup?
[07:32] <Fibbs> uname does not tell me what version
[07:32] <Fibbs> Linux schleppi 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Tue Dec 5 22:28:26 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:33] <emil_> hi
[07:33] <Ricky_> Where do I edit what modules the kernel loads at boottime? - USBHID to be exact, I tryed to edit "proc/modules" but it does not work.. ?
[07:33] <gnomefreak> when it was installing it it should have told you but im gonna assume its 34
[07:33] <Ricky_> and these modules are not in /etc/modules either.
[07:34] <emil_> where i can find beryl 3d plugin and how i can instal it??
[07:34] <gissi> Fibbs: dpkg -l | grep linux-image should tell you something
[07:34] <emil_> help please
[07:34] <moogman> emil_: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu
[07:34] <theflyingfool> is anyone really good with ubuntu networking problems
[07:35] <emil_> thx
[07:35] <gnomefreak> Fibbs: if your using the kernel you tried to install it should configure itself after reboot. your problem is fairly simple one its not initramfs-tool if it was you wouldnt be booting
[07:35] <Blwood> hi, do you know what encryption is used to cipher the password ?
[07:35] <moogman> theflyingfool: Just ask away, someone may know :-)
[07:35] <mnoir> theflyingfool: probably
[07:35] <w3ccv> theflyingfool, first you have tgo ask your quetion
[07:35] <theflyingfool> I tend to get network time outs for irc and email all the time, are there any fixes for that or ways to check the cause
[07:36] <rak> how come edgy eft has only 2 desktops? and can i change the settings to 4 desktops?
[07:36] <gnomefreak> Fibbs: sudo dpkg --configure linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic  (this is a different command than before
[07:36] <fisheye> has anyone instaled tomoby 5 or had any problem with 4?
[07:36] <moogman> Any ideas on LVM guys? Or will I have to just download the alternative live cd iso? :-)
[07:36] <moogman> rak: Right-click the two desktops, then click "Preferences"
[07:36] <fisheye> i cant seem to open tomboy nor install the new version....
[07:37] <theflyingfool> how do i pull up the nickserv commands?
[07:37] <rak> moogman: thanks
[07:37] <epitiphlitis> can anyone recommend a free partition editor for windows? i'm looking for a free partition editor to run in windows, i'm trying a poor mans installation
[07:37] <gnomefreak> theflyingfool: /msg nickserv help
[07:37] <moogman> epitiphlitis: The Ubuntu installer/live CD has a built-in partition editor that you could use.
[07:37] <w3ccv> theflyingfool, try something else like a streaming audio and see if that times out too - if so it is a network problem at the ISP, will probably outside of your router/modem
[07:37] <mnoir> epitiphlitis: why does it have to be win based?
[07:37] <fisheye> tomboy i mean
[07:37] <Fibbs> gnomefreak: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/6232/
[07:38] <w3ccv> theflyingfool, - most probably, see if they all happen at the same time
[07:38] <epitiphlitis> Has to be win based cuz i'm gonna boot off the windows partition
[07:38] <theflyingfool> i have no problem with web browsers or instant message only email client and irc
[07:38] <gnomefreak> Fibbs: remove the kernel and install it again. just install the meta package
[07:38] <epitiphlitis> can anyone recommend a free partition editor for windows? i'm looking for a free partition editor to run in windows, i'm trying a poor mans installation, as in NO CD burning.
[07:38] <mnoir> epitiphlitis: how can you make win boot ubuntu?
[07:38] <vinder> where can I get the .inf file for the netgear wireless card WG511?
[07:39] <gnomefreak> Fibbs: remove kernel you built and everything with it
[07:39] <teclo> Hi people, I have a problem... I'm using the very same USB WiFi adapter (MSI) on my desktop (Ubuntu Edgy) and on my laptop (Ubuntu 6.06 LTS). On my desktop, I see eth1 as a wireless device in iwconfig, but on my laptop, I see nothing in iwconfig !... any idea ?
[07:39] <epitiphlitis> all i need is a partition editor, i have the documents to guide me the rest of the way
[07:39] <theflyingfool> for a partition editor why dont you do it through the ubuntu installer
[07:40] <gnomefreak> epitiphlitis: freedownloads.com
[07:40] <Fibbs> gnomefreak: doing so
[07:40] <w3ccv> theflyingfool, web browsers are very short transmissions, you could miss an outage and never see it. IM probably the same unless you are in constant contact, yeah IRC is also pretty bursty too, but behind the scenes therre is some PING/PONG going on that I'm not sure of.
[07:40] <epitiphlitis> flying fool, thats the point, i need to install off of the windows harddrive, i dont have an actuall cd, i'm installing off of an iso stored on NTFS
[07:40] <moogman> Thanks anyway guys, I'm in a bit of a rush tonight so I'll leave you to it...
[07:40] <gnomefreak> epitiphlitis: for windows help and applications please join #3windows
[07:40] <Fibbs> gnomefreak: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/6233/, what does "rc" and "pn" at the beginning of the line mean?
[07:41] <theflyingfool> you could get a free cd from, shipit
[07:42] <gnomefreak> Fibbs: i dont remember :(
[07:42] <epitiphlitis> theflyingfool, and then what?  wait 4 to 6 weeks for delivery?   *yawn*
[07:42] <krusty> hi
[07:42] <Savage-{> funkyHat: yes
[07:42] <Savage-{> funkyHat: whoops sorry I was scrolled up to the top
[07:42] <gnomefreak> Fibbs: according to that there are no kernels installed
[07:42] <Savage-{> funkyHat: nm
[07:42] <emil_> i have followed a link to a page that doesn't exist yet
[07:43] <epitiphlitis> #3windows is empty
[07:43] <gnomefreak> Fibbs: it should look simular to http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/6235/
[07:43] <gnomefreak> epitiphlitis: than try #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:43] <emil_> is there any other place where a can find beryl 3d plugin
[07:43] <gnomefreak> emil_: ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[07:43] <mnoir> !beryl | emil_
[07:43] <ubotu> emil_: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[07:43] <emil_> ok thx
[07:44] <epitiphlitis> whatever, thanks for nuthin
[07:44] <Savage-{> I like beryl
[07:44] <krusty> I'm a newbie to Ubuntu. I was trying to view the new danish television channel on http://news.tv2.dk/index.php/video-1.html . But I seem to have problems viewing asf files. Can anyone help?
[07:44] <Savage-{> beryl you can turn off the 3d if you want
[07:44] <Savage-{> and lot of options
[07:44] <theflyingfool> are there any good network diagnostic tools, where i could try and trace my time out problem to its source
[07:44] <un_operateur> !mozilla-mplayer
[07:44] <ubotu> mozilla-mplayer: MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.31-1 (edgy), package size 467 kB, installed size 1616 kB
[07:44] <Savage-{> don't use xgl
[07:44] <Savage-{> aiglx is way better
[07:45] <gnomefreak> Savage-{: #ubuntu-xgl
[07:45] <Fibbs> gnomefreak: Could not find /usr/sbin/mkinitramfs. at /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/preinst line 239, <STDIN> line 9.
[07:45] <Naik0> how do i change name on a file in terminal?
[07:45] <Savage-{> ok sorry channel nazi
[07:45] <gnomefreak> Fibbs: thats why i said to remove it and try to install the meta package
[07:45] <Fibbs> gnomefreak: that is what i am doing
[07:46] <Fibbs> what package contains mkinitramfs?
[07:46] <gnomefreak> Fibbs: sudo dpkg -r isnt working?
[07:46] <Naik0> how do i change name on a file in terminal?
[07:46] <un_operateur> Fibbs, have you tried reinstalling initramfs-tools??
[07:46] <gnomefreak> Fibbs: iirc its a initramfs script
[07:46] <gissi> Naik0: mv filename newfilename
[07:46] <un_operateur> Fibbs, initramfs-tools houses that util
[07:46] <gissi> Naik0: This will rename de file
[07:47] <gnomefreak> un_operateur: he shouldnt beable to boot at all if that is bad
[07:47] <cratel> I have 3 ethernet cards. ubuntu finds only 2 and assigns one of them randomly either eth1 or eth2 on bootup. How can I find all 3 and have them assigned predictably?
[07:47] <wyld> how do i set up universal keybindings?
[07:47] <gnomefreak> un_operateur: he states hes booted to the problem kernel
[07:47] <wyld> !keybinding
[07:47] <ubotu> To find out how to switch your keyboard layout, See https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts
[07:47] <un_operateur> gnomefreak, mkinitramfs just makes the initial initrd image, it's not used after that
[07:47] <mnoir> Naik0: you might want to look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=73885
[07:47] <wyld> !shortcuts
[07:47] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[07:47] <gnomefreak> un_operateur: he wouldnt beablet o boot the problem kernel
[07:49] <theflyingfool> does anyone have the microsoft wireless keyboard working with all the extra keys
[07:49] <un_operateur> whatis mkinitramfs :  mkinitramfs (8)      - generate an initramfs image, gnomefreak
[07:52] <Neeled> Hi, I'm having some problems with Nautilus.  I can't open any folder with it (nothing shows up) and I can't right click the desktop to get any menu.
[07:52] <usuario> miriam_xicahuevar@hotmail.com
[07:54] <marcell_> I tried to install a program by using its install script. It anwered: make: *** No rule to make target `/usr/lib/qt-3.3/mkspecs/default/qmake.conf', needed by `Makefile'. Stop. qt3 is installed, the file does not exist. What to do?
[07:55] <theflyingfool> does anyone know how i can figure out why i get time out errors frequently when trying to connect to irc or download my email with evolution
[07:55] <teclo> /whois vinylgirl
[07:55] <Neeled> Hi, I'm having some problems with Nautilus.  I can't open any folder with it (nothing shows up) and I can't right click the desktop to get any menu.  Anyone have any ideas?  I have reinstalled via synaptic everything nautilus related and there's no improvement.
[07:55] <maxsoft> hi all. I like run a game "tremulous" but it needs OpenGPL. how to install it? thank you.
[07:56] <cratel> how do I find out what drivers ubuntu is using for my ethernet cards.
[07:56] <Neeled> maxsoft, you must mean OpenGL.
[07:56] <gnomefreak> un_operateur: it runs mkinitramfs at install time if it fails the kernel is not bootable hence its not installed properly. how is he booted to it?
[07:56] <maxsoft> Neeled: yes :)
[07:56] <HymnToLife> cratel, lsmod
[07:56] <d00d> Is there a way to gget a new motherboard and keep everything on the old one and get it on the otherone?
[07:57] <marcell_> Neeled, i suggest you to start it by terminal, then copy the error message here
[07:57] <cratel> HymnToLife: I tried lsmod but couldn't figure out for sure what modules directly relate to my ethernet cards.
[07:57] <firepol> hi, i modified a partition and now at boot time i get some fsck errors. i think the UUID has been changed. usually i edit /etc/fstab manually but I'd like to understand how can I get the UUID of a partition?
[07:57] <Neeled> marcell_, I've tried that, I haven't got an error message, though
[07:57] <Neeled> marcell_, it just blinks like it was a normal running program.
[07:58] <HymnToLife> cratel, pastebin it, I'l see i I can figure it out
[07:58] <un_operateur> gnomefreak, no doubt, it's quite likely that mkinitramfs was around when the kernel was readied but no longer exists -- which is why i asked him to reinstall that package
[07:58] <Neeled> marcell_, did you get this game from the repositories?
[07:58] <Neeled> *above to max
[07:58] <gnomefreak> un_operateur: if i had to guess he has something modified (maybe wrong version) when he built his kernel
[07:58] <marcell_> Neeled, have you tried to delete your ~/Nautilus ?
[07:58] <xichu> soryy for spanish chanell
[07:59] <gnomefreak> xichu: #ubuntu-es
[07:59] <xichu> gracias - than-you
[07:59] <Neeled> marcell_, I'll try that now
[07:59] <cratel> HymnToLife: I have 2 ethernet cards. His the printout of lsmod: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38905/
[07:59] <marcell_> Neeled, ~/.Nautilus
[08:00] <vinylgirl> hello, how can I replace the splash screen with the progress bar which appears when I boot ?
[08:00] <firepol> i answered my question: /dev/disk/by-uuid
[08:00] <gnomefreak> Neeled: ~/.nautilus
[08:00] <un_operateur> !usplash | vinylgirl
[08:00] <ubotu> vinylgirl: usplash is the start-up splash (before the login screen appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[08:00] <gnomefreak> marcell_: its not a cap N its n
[08:00] <froud> Anyone know of any issues installing egroupware on edgy server
[08:00] <Ashton_1> Dang.
[08:00] <Neeled> marcell_, gnomefreak, thanks, doing that now.
[08:01] <gnomefreak> Ashton_Ke: please stop changing nicks
[08:01] <curs0r> woohoo! milkdrop on ubuntu ftw
[08:01] <Ashton_Ke> I was trying to get my regular nick back.
[08:01] <Ashton_Ke> But it was taken.
[08:03] <marcell_>  I tried to install a program by using its install script. It anwered: "make: *** No rule to make target `/usr/lib/qt-3.3/mkspecs/default/qmake.conf', needed by `Makefile'. Stop." qt3 is installed, the file does not exist. What to do?
[08:03] <viller> I have windows on my master drive and ubuntu on my slave. Can I install grub on the master?
[08:03] <marcell_> viller: yes
[08:04] <marcell_> grub-install /dev/hdxx
[08:04] <viller> marcell_: grub-install /dev/hdc1 ?
[08:04] <marcell_> viller: yes, if it is your drive
[08:04] <cratel> HymnToLife: any ideas on the drivers for my ethernet cards?
[08:04] <fireflame> ? peng
[08:05] <fireflame> ?peng
[08:05] <fireflame> ? aol
[08:05] <fireflame> !peng
[08:05] <marcell_> viller: but before doing that, read instruktions somewhere
[08:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about peng - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:05] <fireflame> !aol
[08:05] <juanchito2006> Hello, my usplash screen gets out of the frequency range, how do I solve it?
[08:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:05] <fireflame> .[/p
[08:05] <viller> marcell_:Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[08:05] <fireflame> no peng aol?
[08:05] <fireflame> no peng aol?
[08:05] <fireflame> no peng aol?
[08:05] <fireflame> AHHHH!
[08:05] <IdleOne> lol
[08:05] <IdleOne> aol
[08:05] <fisheye> dudes...still nothing on tomboy ... can anyone help?
[08:06] <fisheye> it doesnt open
[08:06] <Neeled> marcell_, gnomefreak, that didn't fix it.
[08:06] <marcell_> Neeled : :(
[08:06] <HymnToLife> cratel, the module "e100" seems to be a drifer for Intel NICs
[08:06] <finalbeta> Anyone knows why files names like "Las" inside windows show up in Ubuntu with the "" replaced by 2 question marks. Must be some kind of encoding problem, but I really need to know how to solve it.
[08:07] <marcell_> viller: then try it manually with command: grub
[08:07] <finalbeta> *saved inside windows
[08:07] <viller> marcell_ what do I type in that manually thingie?
[08:07] <teclo> Hello, on 6.06 LTS, I just did modprobe zd1211, and I see no eth1 in iwconfig. But if I do the same thing on my desktop (Edgy) with the same USB WiFi adapter, I do see eth1 in iwconfig... what can I do ?
[08:08] <viller> marcell_ I found a tutorial or something, I'll try, don't bother :)
[08:08] <HymnToLife> teclo, thazt the module is in your Edgy kernel but not in Dapper
[08:08] <HymnToLife> that*
[08:09] <VonGuard> hello
[08:09] <marcell_> viller: okay, fingers crossed ;)
[08:09] <Ashton_Ke> teclo, try updating.
[08:09] <teclo> HymnToLife: it's zd1211rw in Edgy and zd1211 in Dapper
[08:09] <Neeled> finalbeta, I'm certain there should be a way to fix that.  Even if it's just the replace command
[08:09] <cratel> HymnToLife: thanks. i just found also that lshw lists the drivers specifically.
[08:09] <emil_> how i can update my beryl to 0.1.3 version
[08:09] <Ashton_Ke> Teclo, if it works in edgy, they added support in edgy, but it wasn't there in dapper.
[08:09] <Ashton_Ke> Update.
[08:09] <VonGuard> so, i have laptop with edgy installed. when i bring up the network config panel, it does not show any wireless networks aside from my home network. It does this everywhere, even outside my home in a wireless rich environment
[08:09] <teclo> Ashton_Ke: no, I will not upgrade 6.06 to 6.10
[08:09] <Ashton_Ke> Okay.
[08:09] <Ashton_Ke> *shrug*
[08:09] <VonGuard> i can't sign onto any other networks
[08:09] <VonGuard> it's been this way for a month
[08:10] <VonGuard> any ideas?
[08:10] <Ashton_Ke> Find the driver manually and compile it if you wish.
[08:10] <viller> marcell_: invalid device requested :D
[08:10] <marcell_> Neeled: only Nautilus is broken? So an other filemanager works?
[08:10] <teclo> Ashton_Ke: a lot of stuff breaks in 6.10
[08:10] <marcell_> viller: are you sure, you typed correctly?
[08:10] <TheInfinity> hello ... so - also here the question - can someone help me getting a tv card to work?
[08:10] <viller> setup (hd0)
[08:10] <VonGuard> i am so desperate!
[08:10] <VonGuard> and no one even has a clue what this problem is!
[08:10] <VonGuard> anyone?
[08:10] <Neeled> marcell_, I don't know what to try.  Let me look through the list.
[08:10] <Ashton_Ke> Teclo, then find the driver (it's probably on source forge), install it manually.
[08:10] <agent> VonGuard: you can try using the iw* command line utilities
[08:11] <TheInfinity> its a Pinnacle PC-TV Sat Ci - and thats the problem *g*
[08:11] <VonGuard> iw?
[08:11] <linux_user400354> i have this installed from the ubuntu installer linux-image-2.6.15-27-386. my processor is an amd athlon xp 1800+. shouldn't i have this package instead? linux-image-2.6.15-26-k7
[08:11] <marcell_> Neeled: gnome-commander is IMHO very good
[08:11] <VonGuard> agent: what's iw*
[08:11] <viller> marcell_ the tutorial tells me to type "find /boot/grub/stage1" so it wants grub already installed?
[08:11] <HymnToLife> linux_user400354, yes you should but it won't make much difference
[08:11] <TheInfinity> so anyone there who can help me? ;)
[08:12] <marcell_> viller: is it a gentoo tutorial? :)
[08:12] <agent> VonGuard: for example, use iwconfig to list all your wireless cards
[08:12] <VonGuard> ok
[08:12] <viller> marcell_ http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Installing-GRUB-natively.html#Installing-GRUB-natively
[08:12] <VonGuard> doesn't seem to do much
[08:12] <agent> VonGuard: then use iwlist card ap to list all ap's found in your area
[08:12] <VonGuard> ok
[08:13] <agent> VonGuard: where card = the name of entry you get from iwconfig
[08:13] <agent> VonGuard: for example: iwlist eth0 ap
[08:13] <VonGuard> yeah
[08:13] <VonGuard> i did that
[08:13] <Manny_> ewww Edgy has Anjuta 2.0.x which is ALPHA! :(
[08:14] <agent> VonGuard: iwconfig should have your wireless card listed
[08:14] <VonGuard> interface does not have list of peers/access-points
[08:14] <VonGuard> that's the error i get for iwlist eth1 ap
[08:14] <cratel> is there an equivalent to /etc/modules.conf for ubuntu?
[08:14] <josh_> My Ubuntu randomly freezes and I'm not sure why!? it just all of a sudden freezes and i cant move mouse or type anything... not sure whats causing this please help
[08:14] <blinx> I'm searching for an animated gif or swf file where 'Danger' is presented, anyone has a link or such a file?
[08:14] <agent> VonGuard: is your eth1 the wireless card?
[08:14] <VonGuard> yep
[08:14] <VonGuard> config file get corrupted somewhere?
[08:14] <marcell_> viller: I'm not sure what to do :(
[08:14] <agent> VonGuard: right now, are you connected via wireless?
[08:15] <VonGuard> yeah
[08:15] <marcell_> I tried to install a program by using its install script. It anwered: "make: *** No rule to make target `/usr/lib/qt-3.3/mkspecs/default/qmake.conf', needed by `Makefile'. Stop." qt3 is installed, the file does not exist. What to do?
[08:15] <linux_user400354> i meant should i have this one linux-image-2.6.15-27-k7?
[08:15] <linux_user400354> HymnToLife: there is a linux-386, linux-686, linux-686-smp, but not a linux-k7. why not?
[08:15] <linux_user400354> whats the correct way to change my kernel archeticture in ubuntu with all the kernel packages?
[08:15] <agent> VonGuard: try: iwlist eth1 scan
[08:15] <bubbles2002> totally newbie w/ a question
[08:15] <Neeled> marcell_, sorry, it's taking longer than usual to set up, almost like dpkg is frozen
[08:15] <Neeled> bubbles2002, go ahead :)
[08:15] <VonGuard> no scan resultws
[08:16] <VonGuard> eth1 no scan results
[08:16] <agent> VonGuard: if you need help with a program it is good idea to use man pages like: man iwconfig
[08:16] <marcell_> Neeled: you've tried gnome-commander?
[08:16] <VonGuard> well, i see that
[08:16] <josh_> My Ubuntu randomly freezes and I'm not sure why!? it just all of a sudden freezes and i cant move mouse or type anything... not sure whats causing this please help
[08:16] <VonGuard> but iwlist isn't my issue
[08:16] <HymnToLife> linux_user400354, why not ? ask that to the Ubuntu developpers :)
[08:16] <VonGuard> these iw things aren't the problem
[08:16] <Neeled> marcell_, trying now, dpkg is finally finished
[08:16] <bubbles2002> im using a livecd version of ubuntu. and want to connect wirelessly...  Ihave a linksys WRT54G 14.2.2 and am having some problems
[08:16] <agent> VonGuard: do the ap's or routers have essid broadcast? if not, then you cannot scan and search for them using normal methods
[08:16] <marcell_> Neeled: okay :)
[08:17] <VonGuard> it's the fact that i can't sign onto ANY wireless networks that aren't my own
[08:17] <VonGuard> they do
[08:17] <HymnToLife> I tell you, installing the k7 kernel won't make any noticeable difference
[08:17] <marcell_> I tried to install a program by using its install script. It anwered: "make: *** No rule to make target `/usr/lib/qt-3.3/mkspecs/default/qmake.conf', needed by `Makefile'. Stop." qt3 is installed, the file does not exist. What to do?
[08:17] <VonGuard> i've been in public wifi zones, and it still won't show anything but my home network in the network config drop down menu
[08:17] <bubbles2002> its hard to figure it out - cuz when i try - and do what i read - I reboot off the live cd.. it doesnt work - then I have to reload and retry again.
[08:17] <VonGuard> i am completely screwed in public
[08:17] <Neeled> marcell_, the text is a little squished but it appears to run
[08:17] <cathal> disabling composite with DRI instruction on ubuntuguide.org for ATI cards causes X to not start theirfore I get a black screen on bootup. Is their a solution for this?
[08:18] <VonGuard> sorry, don't mean to be caustic
[08:18] <VonGuard> but i am completely flumoxed here
[08:18] <marcell_> Neeled: and does it work? So you can manage your files?
[08:18] <Neeled> marcell_, as far as I can tell, yes.
[08:18] <bubbles2002> and im also curious why its so tricky to get wireless to work in linux off of a live cd.
[08:18] <agent> VonGuard: well, you do realize that it is very odd that your home network works while others do not, right?
[08:19] <VonGuard> yep
[08:19] <VonGuard> i do
[08:19] <VonGuard> another reason i can't find a solution here
[08:19] <VonGuard> i have checked the forums, and whined in here for a month
[08:19] <VonGuard> and no one seems to have any idea what to do
[08:19] <marcell_> Neeled: that's good :) Then the half of the problem is okay now... but the right click isn't ok :S
[08:19] <agent> VonGuard: how did you setup your home network?
[08:20] <agent> VonGuard: i mean, how did you setup your computer to use your home network
[08:20] <josh_> I'm tryin to install a Microsoft Wireless Comfort Keyboard 1.0A and a Microsoft Wireless Optical Mouse 2.0 ... any ideas how to get them installed?
[08:20] <VonGuard> oh
[08:20] <VonGuard> network control panel
[08:20] <VonGuard> long time ago
[08:20] <VonGuard> used to work fine
[08:20] <marcell_> I tried to install a program by using its install script. It anwered: "make: *** No rule to make target `/usr/lib/qt-3.3/mkspecs/default/qmake.conf', needed by `Makefile'. Stop." qt3 is installed, the file does not exist. What to do?
[08:20] <agent> josh_: plug them in :)
[08:20] <VonGuard> under dapper, and under edgy for about a month
[08:20] <VonGuard> i didn't really change anything
[08:20] <VonGuard> though i did updates
[08:21] <marcell_> josh_ : try dmesg
[08:21] <Neeled> bubbles2002, sometimes wireless cards have a problem, what guide are you reading?
[08:21] <LaserLine> anyone know how to play a sound file from the command line?
[08:21] <agent> LaserLine: depends on what type of sound file
[08:21] <alex-weej> !hwdb
[08:21] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Hardware Database can be found at http://hwdb.ubuntu.com/
[08:21] <aramadiloINmyPAN> whats better for eyecandy E16 or flux?
[08:22] <aramadiloINmyPAN> !fluxbox
[08:22] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[08:22] <bubbles2002> neeled - i have tried a few - hard to find anything for my specific adapter for some reason... but anything I have found in the forums doesnt seem to work. as i said the stinky problem is - i read/print out - then reboot off the cd - if it doesnt work - i have to reload windows to look for more info.
[08:22] <josh_> agent: i have plugged them in... doesnt work
[08:22] <agent> VonGuard: e16
[08:22] <VonGuard> e16?
[08:22] <agent> josh_: using microsoft products on linux is, well, not good ;)
[08:22] <agent> VonGuard: e16 is a version of englightenment (a window manager)
[08:22] <bubbles2002> plus - wondering if - i ever do get it to work - if there is a way to save it on the live cd so that it works everytime i load the live cd.
[08:22] <josh_> others have gotten them to work
[08:23] <agent> VonGuard: e17 is the newer version, but "unstable"
[08:23] <josh_> i searched google of course
[08:23] <VonGuard> ...
[08:23] <VonGuard> i think yer talking to someone else
[08:23] <Neeled> bubbles2002, oh, so if you do get it working, since you're running off the livecd - everything is gone when you reboot.
[08:23] <VonGuard> i'm not using enlightenment
[08:23] <josh_> marcell_: dmesg sees them how do i get them to work?
[08:23] <LaserLine> agent: how to play a wav file from command line?
[08:23] <aramadiloINmyPAN> josh_, microsoft products make my hard drive seek help from a domestic abuse shelter
[08:23] <VonGuard> standard old edgy
[08:23] <VonGuard> no bells and whistles
[08:23] <juanchito2006> !usplash
[08:23] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before the login screen appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[08:23] <agent> VonGuard: you asked what e16 was
[08:23] <bubbles2002> ok no problem w that.. just want it to work
[08:24] <VonGuard> oh
[08:24] <aramadiloINmyPAN> agent, it was me that asked aboute the e16/flux
[08:24] <VonGuard> sorry, jjust being a pain
[08:24] <agent> oh
[08:24] <agent> haha
[08:24] <marcell_> josh_ : try to do sthg with the ID of the hardware, sthg like this: apt-cache search ms-keybrd10210
[08:24] <Neeled> marcell_, any idea on the next step?
[08:24] <aramadiloINmyPAN> agent, is E hard to set up?
[08:24] <MarianoGuerra> :P
 e16?
[08:24] <VonGuard> heh, nm agent
[08:24] <Neeled> bubbles2002, let me see if I can find something on it.
[08:25] <bubbles2002> :)
[08:25] <Nontitle> e17 looks like its going to be pretty cool
[08:25] <agent> aramadiloINmyPAN: have not used it for a long time so i do not know... probably not.... there is even a ubuntu enlightenment meta package somewhere - they have their own website - search for it
[08:25] <marcell_> Neeled: there is somewhere a config-editor for nautilus... maybe it'll be useful?
[08:25] <prurigro> anyone know why my shares-admin settings aren't sticking ?? when I click delete and start it up again the old shares are still there...
[08:25] <tim167> how can I automate saving scans to both .jpg and .pgm in Gimp?
[08:25] <psychiccyberfrea> I've got a problem...
[08:25] <agent> VonGuard: about your wireless network: you are using it right now, but the scan shows that it does not exist?
[08:25] <marcell_> I tried to install a program by using its install script. It anwered: "make: *** No rule to make target `/usr/lib/qt-3.3/mkspecs/default/qmake.conf', needed by `Makefile'. Stop." qt3 is installed, the file does not exist. What to do?
[08:26] <Neeled> marcell_, you mean gtweakui?
[08:26] <VonGuard> yep
[08:26] <VonGuard> the scan showed no networks
[08:26] <bubbles2002> and also - very curious - why linux and wireless networking is so tricky.. it seems a lot of peolpe have these problems.
[08:26] <VonGuard> bubbles2002, it's tough because no companies offer their drivers as open source
[08:26] <agent> aramadiloINmyPAN: i would also look into beryl
[08:26] <psychiccyberfrea> when I put in the live CD to install, It goes through the regular boot process and then I get some console saying "could not access tty; job controll turned off"
[08:27] <bubbles2002> ah.. ok understandable.. let me know if u can find any info on my adapter.
[08:27] <marcell_> Neeled : maybe it is...
[08:27] <Neeled> bubbles2002, mostly because wireless is relatively new and all drivers are closed-source (AFAIK), so we've got to make our own.
[08:27] <agent> marcell_: read the README it will tell you how to install it... you probably need to ./configure;make;make install
[08:27] <bubbles2002> im very anxious to learn - and slowly switch to a linux enviroment - but want to get my betatesting done in the livecd format.
[08:27] <aramadiloINmyPAN> agent, i tryed beryl and i messed up the config files somehow and x wouldent restart
[08:27] <tim167> bubbles2002: honestly i gave up on wireless + ubuntu
[08:27] <marcell_> agent : The readme tells me to use the ./install script, itt will make everything
[08:28] <agent> VonGuard: when you answer someone, please make sure to say who you are answering like this: agent: blah blah
[08:28] <agent> VonGuard: otherwise people will not miss what you wrote
[08:28] <marcell_> agent : but I know that the first command in the install script is MAKE
[08:28] <agent> VonGuard: err... i meant to say "people will miss..."
[08:28] <bubbles2002> tim167 - sux. cuz I dont have an easy way to wire it
[08:28] <Neeled> bubbles2002, and anyone else correct me, but it may be easier to do betatesting in a virtual computer setting instead, so everything's persistent and contained.
[08:29] <tim167> bubbles2002: what device you have ? (mine is (was) Dlink g. something usb adapter )
[08:29] <bubbles2002> linksys wrt54g
[08:29] <VonGuard> agent, sorry, will do
[08:30] <VonGuard> agent: so, my my wireless scan showed no networks at all
[08:30] <agent> aramadiloINmyPAN: heh - you probably tried too hard.... unless your card is not supported, just use aiglx and you do not have to edit any config files - worked for me on an old ati 16mb ram card in seconds (just apt-get install beryl)
[08:30] <VonGuard> agent, despite tyhe fact that i am on one right now
[08:30] <Neeled> bubbles2002, that's a common card, there should be some sort of solution for that.  But about the virtual computer: something like vmware server - just put linux on it and you can run from there without having to worry about losing everything
[08:30] <tim167> bubbles2002: linksys should work,I saw people use it on linux (but mandrive based)
[08:30] <bubbles2002> brb. one sec
[08:30] <pucko-> what do you need to make the hibernate function work in kde? (it did work in suse linux before)
[08:30] <marcell_> agent : any ideas then?
[08:30] <agent> VonGuard: what network card do you have?
[08:31] <VonGuard> agent: intel
[08:31] <agent> marcell_: are you sure you have all BUILD dependencies met?
[08:31] <Neeled> bubbles2002, what's the actual wireless card that you're using to connect to the router?  wrt54g is the wireless router
[08:32] <bubbles2002> ahh...
[08:32] <agent> marcell_: it may be that you need qt4-dev not just qt4
[08:32] <LinTux> I have found about 250 files in my wastebin that have invalid filenames and it will not allow me to delete them, any way around this
[08:32] <josh_> got the keyboard to work... mouse still doesnt
[08:32] <Muppet-Boy> heya how do i find the grub gui?? is it installed by default?
[08:32] <marcell_> agent: it asked me for qt3-packages...
[08:32] <bubbles2002> lemme find out one sec.
[08:32] <pucko-> anyone know if ubuntu's grub supports gfxboot or do I need to patch it to make it work?
[08:32] <viller> can I install grub on a harddrive that has only windows on it
[08:32] <agent> marcell_: well, if you are building from source then you probably need dev packages
[08:33] <bubbles2002> is linksys wireless-G PCI adapater make sensse? or is there a specific model #?
[08:33] <agent> VonGuard: what chipset? have you looked it up via lspci?
[08:33] <gaten> problem w/ nvidia: if i restart gdm from console, the splash screen starts up but it stalls there. no errors appear in the Xorg logs, it just seems to stall. i've tried uninstall/reinstall a bunch of times. dpkg-reconfigure doesnt fix it either. any ideas?
[08:33] <marcell_> agent : yes, but for qt3 or qt4?  the error message contains qt3...
[08:33] <Neeled> marcell_, it looks like the problem is that it's not showint the desktop at all
[08:33] <gaten> viller: you can safely partition your drive to have both OSes on it
[08:34] <cratel> how can I force the assignments (e.g. eth0, eth1) that my ethernet cards get?
[08:34] <viller> I allready have everything partitioned I just need to install grub
[08:34] <VonGuard> agent:  Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2915ABG
[08:34] <agent> marcell_: well i doubt it needs both... im not sure as i don't know anything about the program you are trying to compile
[08:34] <gaten> viller: the ubunutu installer will walk you through it
[08:34] <agent> VonGuard: this is on a laptop?
[08:34] <VonGuard> agent: yes
[08:34] <bubbles2002> and if not - how do i get teh model # w/o opening the ocmputer?
[08:35] <VonGuard> agent: onboard
[08:35] <agent> VonGuard: what laptop?
[08:35] <viller> gaten I already have ubuntu installed I only need to install grub with grub-install or something
[08:36] <VonGuard> agent: asus model
[08:36] <marcell_> agent : It's a special program. Microsim. It simulates PIC-s
[08:36] <VonGuard> agent: z3300
[08:36] <VonGuard> agent: not sure it's a hardware issue. it used to work perfectly
[08:36] <LinTux>  I have 250 files in my wastebin with invalid filenames, i need to delete them, any ideas?
[08:36] <agent> VonGuard: yes, probably not a hardware issue - either a module issue or a configuration issue
[08:36] <gaten> viller: oh ok. so grub isnt installed at all?
[08:36] <VonGuard> agent: i'm thinking config issue
[08:36] <agent> VonGuard: :)
[08:36] <VonGuard> agent: i don't have any odd kernel mods
[08:36] <gaten> ?
[08:36] <VonGuard> agent: i'm just not sure which configs to diddle
[08:37] <viller> gaten> yes cause windows wrote MBR over with its crap
[08:37] <agent> VonGuard: pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces
[08:37] <gaten> viller: ahh yes. wonderful cooperative windows.
[08:37] <fisheye> is there any irc client for ubuntu with "dccserver"
[08:37] <modulus> hi, a friend of mine lost his sound on an update. can you tell me a checklist of stuff he could do to pinpoint the problem?
[08:37] <modulus> he's already tried the mixer.
[08:37] <bubbles2002> if i had to guesss  WMP54G
[08:37] <agent> VonGuard: and while you are at it, pastebin iwconfig output
[08:38] <VonGuard> ok, where's pastebin again?
[08:38] <FANTOM_Robert> halo ?!
[08:38] <tim167> modulus: downgrade again to previous kernel, I had this prob too
[08:38] <Slart> !pastebin
[08:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:38] <factboy818181> hello.... my wireless mouse isn't working, does anyone have any idea?  o_O
[08:38] <gaten> viller: hold on, im finding it for u
[08:38] <LinTux>  I have 250 files in my wastebin with invalid filenames, i need to delete them, any ideas?
[08:38] <agent> viller: solution is simple, delete windows and shred the cds ;)
[08:39] <FANTOM_Robert> same pleby
[08:39] <VonGuard> agent: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38906/
[08:39] <forngren> how do I restart openssh-server?
[08:39] <FANTOM_Robert> jest jakis polak ?
[08:39] <hope13> hey i had an ubuntu bug >,>
[08:39] <VonGuard> agent: thanks for all the help
[08:39] <agent> LinTux: you mean in trash?
[08:39] <hope13> i fixed it tho
[08:39] <ubuntuuser> i installed wine but i can't run .exe, it doesn't even show up when you right click the file
[08:39] <btrento> does anyone know of an up to date how to for xgl and compiz
[08:39] <bubbles2002> let me ask this.
[08:40] <modulus> how would one downgrade the kernel?
[08:40] <s1zzl3r> hey hello. how can I ged kmod-fglrx for Edgy?
[08:40] <gaten> viller: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/installation/79071-system-re-instalation-grub-
[08:40] <bubbles2002> is there no way to put the wireless info on the LIVE CD so that it works everytime?
[08:40] <ubuntuuser> i can go to winecfg and it will work
[08:40] <IdleOne> what package contain Tcl?
[08:40] <agent> LinTux: tell me where you have those bad filename files located and i will tell you how to delete them
[08:40] <hope13> mm i should dl ssh lol
[08:40] <LinTux> agent, Yes they seem to have code for names, god know where they came from
[08:40] <s1zzl3r> hey hello. how can I ged kmod-fglrx for Edgy?
[08:40] <hope13> those name are cute
[08:40] <prurigro> does anyone know where shares-admin puts the shared folder settings?? I cant get rid of shares with the gui util
[08:41] <hope13> they should name clubby seal
[08:41] <agent> LinTux: pastebin the output of: ls ~/.Trash/
[08:41] <aoirthoir> aha!
[08:41] <aoirthoir> I caught you!
[08:41] <tim167> modulus: open synaptic, do search for kernel 2.6* or something, then you have to do 'force version' to reinstall the older one
[08:41] <agent> VonGuard: where did you paste your interfaces config file output?
[08:41] <modulus> so this is the only way to reoover sound? the new kernel has broken sound support or something?
[08:42] <modulus> *recover
[08:42] <VonGuard> agent: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38906/
[08:42] <madd_matt> :( I'm trying to convince a computer i've got here to boot my kubuntu edgy install DVD -- It doesn't want to.  I can boot damn small linux from the adjacent CDrom drive fine, but it doesn't want to boot the DVD.
[08:42] <agent> VonGuard: there is no output of interfaces config file there
[08:43] <tim167> modulus: that was the only plausible conclusion to me after 2 days of trying to get it to work
[08:43] <aleka> I want to save this command as an alias "xcomp" so when I type xcomp it will run the command <xcompmgr nohup -cC -t-8 -l-8 -r8 -o0.85
[08:43] <aleka> > how do I make this alias and where do I save it??
[08:43] <psychiccyberfrea> when I put in the live CD to install, It goes through the regular boot process and then I get some console saying "could not access tty; job controll turned off"
[08:43] <agent> VonGuard: that is the output of lspci :)
[08:43] <gaten> madd_matt: u need to set your bios to boot the DVD
[08:43] <VonGuard> agent: that's what i get for iwconfig
[08:43] <modulus> tim167: what is the latest kernel for which sound works?
[08:43] <tim167> modulus: but if you get alsa running on new kernel please let me know! :-P
[08:43] <VonGuard> agent: lspci comes out differnt. much different
[08:43] <linux_user400354> bubbles2002: save your config to a usb drive and load it on the live cd
[08:44] <agent> VonGuard: yes, but i also asked you to paste the output of /etc/network/interfaces
[08:44] <emil_> how to upgrade my beryl 0.1.1 to 0.1.3 version
[08:44] <agent> VonGuard: that is the config file that has your network settings
[08:44] <n2diy> aleka: take a look at ~/.bashrc
[08:44] <Neeled> bubbles2002 has left, linux_user400354 :(
[08:44] <VonGuard> ah, ok agent
[08:44] <haxality> is it possible to make my gnome panels completely autohide, instead of leaving an edge visible?
[08:44] <madd_matt> gaten, My BIOS is set.  I've also tried smart boot manager, but it won't boot the DVD either.  Do boot floppies exist for (k)ubuntu?
[08:44] <aramadiloINmyPAN> whars the command for uninstalling wit apt-get?
[08:44] <agent> VonGuard: just pastebin the output of: cat /etc/network/interfaces
[08:44] <emil_> how to upgrade my beryl 0.1.1 to 0.1.3 version  help please
[08:44] <haxality> aramadiloINmyPAN: 'apt-get remove packagename'
[08:44] <gaten> madd_matt: I don't know, but they should.
[08:45] <racarr_> emil_ 0.1.4 came out about 5 minutes ago
[08:45] <LinTux> agent has it pastebined it
[08:45] <emil_> wow
[08:45] <agent> emil_: update your sources.conf and it will tell you to upgrade by itself or use apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
[08:45] <emil_> how can i get it
[08:45] <racarr_> emil_: http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/
[08:45] <PriceChild> emil_, are you on dapper?
[08:45] <PriceChild> emil_, because we don't package beryl for dapper anymore
[08:45] <aleka> n2diy: I don't have that directory under ~
[08:45] <LinTux> 1st December 2006  Linux Backups        My Music
[08:45] <LinTux> BACKUP 17-10-2006  Macromedia Studio 8  My Notebook
[08:45] <VonGuard> agent: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38911/
[08:45] <emil_> no gnome
[08:45] <PriceChild> emil_, which version of ubuntu?
[08:46] <agent> LinTux: i do not understand what you mean by: <LinTux> agent has it pastebined it
[08:46] <s1zzl3r> can someone please give me a link to a tutor. on howto get fglrx on EdgY?
[08:46] <dreamer> how do I log into phpmyadmin?
[08:46] <agent> !pastebin > LinTux
[08:46] <emil_> 0.1.1
[08:46] <PriceChild> emil_, 6.06 or 6.10?
[08:46] <Nap_> hi
[08:46] <PriceChild> emil_, no of ubuntu, not dapper
[08:46] <btrento> does anyone know of an up to date how to for xgl and compiz
[08:46] <emil_> 6.10
[08:46] <n2diy> alex-weej: ` represents your home directory.
[08:46] <PriceChild> emil_, sure?
[08:46] <emil_> yes
[08:46] <daniel77> ola
[08:46] <alex-weej> n2diy: ?
[08:46] <daniel77> hi
[08:46] <haxality> actually, alex-weej, ~ represents your home dir
[08:46] <s1zzl3r> can someone please give me a link to a tutor. on howto get fglrx on 6.10????
[08:46] <daniel77> i'm chilean jejej
[08:46] <factboy818181> anyone gotten a wireless mouse working in ubuntu?
[08:46] <tim167> modulo: just my experience here: 2.6.17-10.33(edgy)=SOUND_WORKS, "2.6.17.1-10.34(edgy-security)=SOUND_BROKEN
[08:46] <PriceChild> emil_, then add "deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org edgy main" to your sources list.
[08:46] <VonGuard> agent: i pasted the cat to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38911/
[08:47] <cryptom> Hi all, I'm using ubuntu-server and updated yesterday from dapper to edgy, since then (fstab was changed), I get the error: findfs: Unable to resolve 'UUID=a449b71c-01ae-40d3-adb5-aa5c0e38c0a6'
[08:47] <daniel77> i have a little problem with my soundcard :(
[08:47] <agent> VonGuard: reading it now
[08:47] <aleka> alex-weej: that was supposed to be for me
[08:47] <PriceChild> emil_, remove all lines
[08:47] <n2diy> alex-weej: /home/????/.bashrc
[08:47] <PriceChild> emil_, related to beryl
[08:47] <VonGuard> agent: cool thanks
[08:47] <LinTux> I am Pasting it in Pastebin AGENT
[08:47] <s1zzl3r> can someone please give me a link to a tutor. on howto get fglrx on 6.10????
[08:47] <modulus> tim167: danke schoen.
[08:47] <cryptom> findfs with the swap partition uuid works, but not the /-partition
[08:47] <s1zzl3r> ok forget it no answer as always! :S
[08:47] <aleka> n2diy: yes I don have .bashrc there
[08:47] <emil_> ok
[08:47] <tim167> modulus: look for "linux-image-2.6*" in synaptic
[08:47] <daniel77> all were good, but i tryed to install beryl and then in the process, the sound doesn't works anymore :(
[08:48] <hope13> what's ssh name in synaptic?
[08:48] <daniel77> me?
[08:48] <aleka> n2diy: cd ~/.bashrc
[08:48] <aleka> bash: cd: /home/name/.bashrc: Not a directory
[08:48] <n2diy> aleka: do you have "view hidden files" enabled?
[08:48] <tim167> modulus= y/w, good luck!
[08:48] <LaserLine> How do I play a wav file from the command line?
[08:48] <aleka> n2diy:  I am doing an ls -a in terminal and don't see it
[08:48] <gaten> aleka: .bashrc is a file, not a directory
[08:48] <omfg_pwn> got a question?
[08:49] <daniel77> who can send mi your xorf.conf file ???
[08:49] <n2diy> aleka: and you are in your home directory?
[08:49] <agent> VonGuard: ok, first of all: 1) never paste your passwords :) 2) that key is WAY to simple and very easily cracked
[08:49] <VonGuard> agent: yeah i know
[08:49] <daniel77> plz :D
[08:49] <aleka> OK.. I was trying to cd into it as if it was a directory.. do I edit that file to make aliases??
[08:49] <VonGuard> agent: only place i use the password, and it's a localization thing. the admin password is different
[08:49] <VonGuard> agent: the password can be changed
[08:49] <daniel77> plz who can help me, it's simple (i guess)
[08:50] <VonGuard> agent: but my freakin wireless problem can't be
[08:50] <jengc0il> hi ppl
[08:50] <gaten> aleka: yes. edit the file
[08:50] <jengc0il> how 2 upgrade from dapper to edgy
[08:50] <daniel77> where can i configure my soundcard???
[08:50] <aleka> gaten:  what format do I use to put an alias then.. say I have an alias name xx and command yyy
[08:51] <php-freak> any one very good with hardware?
[08:51] <n2diy> aleka: there are already alias in the that file, follow there format.
[08:51] <LinTux> are their any problems with going over to the 64 Bit version of Ubuntu
[08:51] <Borra> Hello
[08:51] <agent> VonGuard: very strange i have to say... it all looks good
[08:51] <n00bzer> can someone help me understand dmraid?  i have an asus mobo (k8v se deluxe) with an onboard raid controller (fastrack 378), how do i  install ubuntu onto the raid 0 array that is already setup on the controller level, do i need dmraid?
[08:51] <LaserLine> LinTux: you might want to check launchpad.net for any bugs with the 64 bit version
[08:52] <daniel77> PLEASE SOMEONE SEND MY HER /etc/X11/xorg.conf FILE!!!
[08:52] <LinTux> LaserLine: Cheers
[08:52] <VonGuard> agent: yeah, i am so annoyed and frustrated. i can't figure this out at all
[08:52] <agent> !caps
[08:52] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[08:52] <Borra> I know this is not the right channel but if anyone here who lives in New york who knows some good phone/pda stores please message me
[08:52] <agent> !caps > daniel77
[08:52] <n00bzer> anyone?
[08:52] <daniel77> sorri
[08:52] <s1zzl3r> wow so cool channel with 917 users and not any of them give me answer :D cool
[08:52] <gaten> alias la='ls -a'
[08:52] <n00bzer> can someone help me understand dmraid?  i have an asus mobo (k8v se deluxe) with an onboard raid controller (fastrack 378), how do i  install ubuntu onto the raid 0 array that is already setup on the controller level, do i need dmraid?
[08:52] <gaten> understand?
[08:52] <bruenig> !attitude | s1zzl3r
[08:52] <ubotu> s1zzl3r: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:52] <n00bzer> do i need dmraid?
[08:53] <sutab1> Anyone here know where to find the list of Drivers for Xorg?
[08:53] <n2diy> daniel177 my xorg.conf wouldn't do you any good, xorg.conf is hardware specific.
[08:53] <agent> VonGuard: i would be annoyed too
[08:53] <daniel77> ok
[08:53] <daniel77> i have a problem :S
[08:53] <daniel77> my soundcard doesn't work anymore
[08:53] <aramadiloINmyPAN> agent, do you have an apt-get for beryl?i tried sudo apt-get install beryl but no luck
[08:53] <linux_user400354> daniel77: google "inurl:xorg.conf"
[08:53] <gaten> aleka: alias command="real command"
[08:53] <agent> VonGuard: you know, i just noticed that someone decided to turn on an open ap somewhere around here while we were conversing
[08:53] <aleka> gaten: I did   alias xcomp='xcompmgr nohup -cC -t-8 -l-8 -r8 -o0.85' now I am typing in terminal xcomp and I get command not found...
[08:54] <daniel77> I think is becouse installing nvidia drivers
[08:54] <s1zzl3r> :d byebye not so fast for a simple little problem
[08:54] <agent> aramadiloINmyPAN: you need to have the correct sources
[08:54] <VonGuard> agent: hah!
[08:54] <aleka> do I need to restart the terminal to re-read the bashrc file
[08:54] <aramadiloINmyPAN> daniel77, has it worked before
[08:54] <agent> aramadiloINmyPAN: its not in ubuntu by default
[08:54] <gaten> aleka: just run the .bashrc
[08:54] <n00bzer> is dmraid only for software raid?
[08:54] <LinTux> I am told that FLASH does not work in Ubuntu 64 Bit, is this true
[08:54] <agent> !beryl | aramadiloINmyPAN
[08:54] <ubotu> aramadiloINmyPAN: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[08:54] <gaten> aleka: ./.basrc
[08:54] <n2diy> aleka: log out, and then back in again, and your command should work.
[08:54] <aramadiloINmyPAN> ah ok ill get them
[08:54] <bruenig> LinTux, there is no flash 64 bit. There are ways by getting the 32 bit firefox and adding the 32 bit plugin to that to make it work
[08:55] <daniel77> armadilo, yes it has
[08:55] <agent> aramadiloINmyPAN: <PriceChild> emil_, then add "deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org edgy main" to your sources list.
[08:55] <bruenig> LinTux, forum has some scripts that will do all of that
[08:55] <daniel77> it has worked before
[08:55] <ice-t> hi
[08:55] <aleka> gaten: , the file is not even excutable/.//
[08:55] <linux_user400354> fiber optics coming to my road in april :D
[08:55] <agent> VonGuard: what program do you use to see if an ap or router is available?
[08:56] <daniel77> i think is becouse i have installed nvidia drivers with automatix?
[08:56] <linux_user400354> 8 mb /s downloading speed for me
[08:56] <LinTux> Anybody using x64 now, Thanks bruenig
[08:56] <VonGuard> network config
[08:56] <bruenig> !automatix | dan2
[08:56] <ubotu> dan2: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:56] <VonGuard> or
[08:56] <aleka> ok.. will logout ..<>
[08:56] <VonGuard> agent: wavemon
[08:56] <gaten> aleka: chmod +x .bashrc
[08:56] <VonGuard> agent: or the network config panel
[08:56] <daniel77> someone told me it will works well and easier that doing by muyself
[08:56] <bruenig> !worksforme
[08:56] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[08:56] <PriceChild> ^ daniel77
[08:56] <n2diy> gaten, the file isn't supposed to be executable, the system reads from it.
[08:57] <daniel77> tell me
[08:57] <dan2> bruenig: wtf?
[08:57] <bruenig> dan2, tab completion failed me
[08:57] <agent> VonGuard: what is wavmon?
[08:57] <gaten> n2diy: true, but its easier than logging out. run it, then chmod -x. but point taken
[08:57] <daniel77> yes ubotu, you're right
[08:57] <daniel77> but, how can i reapir my problem :(
[08:57] <aleka> thanks a bunch n2diy and gaten :)
[08:58] <VonGuard> agent: it's in synaptic. it's a wireless network detector
[08:58] <n2diy> aleka: nada
[08:58] <gaten> aleka: you're welcome
[08:58] <VonGuard> agent: but mostly, i open the network config panel and choose from the drop down menu
[08:58] <agent> ahh... it just may be that the wavmon program does not work for your network card
[08:58] <daniel77> :S
[08:58] <VonGuard> agent: but neither of these show me anything at all, anymore, except the config panel shows my home network. but even wavmon doesn't see that
[08:58] <aleka> whois bruenig
[08:58] <bruenig> hmmmm
[08:58] <VonGuard> agent: perhaps, but i rarely use it
[08:58] <bruenig> you with your dirty commands
[08:58] <daniel77> :(
[08:59] <jengc0il> !upgrade
[08:59] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[08:59] <aleka> lol.. was trying to see your idle time and see if you were online coz I wanted to ask a Q
[08:59] <gaten> !nvidia
[08:59] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:59] <daniel77> i think that automatix erase part of my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[08:59] <agent> VonGuard: well, when you are in the public, the the networks open? do you need any essid or password to access them?
[08:59] <daniel77> i think so because in the input seccion, there are no soundcard :S
[08:59] <bruenig> daniel77, as ubotu said, automatix problems are hard to track
[09:00] <bruenig> daniel77, therefore support is not generally provided, that is not to say someone wont step up to the plate but I stopped messing with automatix people a long time ago
[09:00] <aramadiloINmyPAN> where my sources file?
[09:00] <bruenig> aramadiloINmyPAN, /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:00] <VonGuard> agent: no
[09:01] <aleka> bruenig: yesterday you gave me this site to download realplayer from < http://mirror.xmu.edu.cn/archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/pool/main/r/realplay/realplay_10.0.8-0ubuntu1_i386.deb> does this package not come with the firefox plugin like the one that used to be in the repos?
[09:01] <linux_user400354> i hate slow net to download
[09:01] <agent> VonGuard: no to which question?
[09:01] <VonGuard> agent: open networks abound in some of my normal hang outs, and i can see not a one in the network config drop-down menu
[09:01] <[^Twen^] > do I have to set any options to get access to my ubuntu machine using PUTTY?
[09:01] <bruenig> aleka, that looks like the one from the repos
[09:01] <VonGuard> agent: this is not a network problem, it's absolutely an issue with my side
[09:01] <PriceChild> [^Twen^] , you shouldn't have to :)
[09:01] <aleka> bruenig: I am still having trouble listening to real audio.. on the bbc website in FF
[09:01] <bruenig> aleka, I never went with real player, closed source a pain to install and doesn't offer any functionality that can be achieved otherwise
[09:01] <LordUltimaDavid> !sound
[09:01] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[09:02] <agent> VonGuard: well, it may be that your scanning ability no longer works correctly for whatever reason, but maybe you can still connect to them... how do you try to connect when in public?
[09:02] <bruenig> aleka, mozilla-mplayer
[09:02] <agent> PriceChild: not true, sshd is not installed by default
[09:02] <bruenig> aleka, give me a link to the page, I'll see if mozilla-mplayer works
[09:02] <aleka> well mplayer had a plugin in FF that said it would play .ram and .rm formats, but i just freezes
[09:02] <PriceChild> agent, oh yeah sorry :)
[09:02] <VonGuard> agent: i open the network connection menu from my gnome toolbar. then i hit config and select a network from the drop down menu
[09:02] <PriceChild> [^Twen^] , listen to what agent said just
[09:03] <aleka> bruenig: http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/check/worldservice/meta/tx/live_news?size=au&bgc=003399&lang=en-ws&nbram=1&nbwm=1
[09:04] <jengc0il> ping
[09:04] <josh_> please help me!
[09:04] <agent> [^Twen^] : for obvious security reasons, sshd is not installed by default... install package openssh-server
[09:04] <daniel77> i have other problem :D
[09:04] <bruenig> aleka, it plays in mozilla-mplayer
[09:04] <daniel77> with Ksubtitle, it doesn't work with (tildes)
[09:04] <daniel77> the symbols like ' but over a character
[09:04] <daniel77> 
[09:04] <aleka> will recheck if I have the correct plugins....
[09:04] <daniel77> that are used in spanish
[09:05] <bruenig> aleka, you need to have this file, /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/mplayerplug-in-rm.so
[09:05] <bruenig> aleka, and I had to wait a little while for it to load and it looked as if it wasn't working but then it fired up
[09:06] <Turgon> Hello. Is there a way to export the fonts ubuntu comes with to a windows-compatible format? Thanks for your time and merry Christmas :)
[09:06] <agent> VonGuard: you mean that you select "network name (essid)" from the dropdown box?
[09:07] <VonGuard> agent: yes
[09:07] <daniel77> i had to go... merry chrismas :)
[09:07] <agent> VonGuard: you should note that i also do not even see my own essid in that dropdown list... i have to manually enter it
[09:08] <VonGuard> agent: oh. well, i should still see networks in wavmon or wireshark
[09:08] <VonGuard> agent: and it used to show all the available networks in there
[09:08] <VonGuard> agent: just suddenly stopped a month or two ago
[09:09] <agent> VonGuard: well, if you are connected to your home network, all you should have to do is make sure to enter all needed info for those open networks and it should connect.... my guess is that you are not entering everything needed because you expect it to be listed automatically in that program
[09:09] <josh_> please help! Ubuntu is randomly freezing on me!
[09:10] <VonGuard> agent: perhaps. thanks for the advice. but i still don't understand why my machine suddenly stopped being able to see external networks
[09:10] <agent> VonGuard: using system -> administration -> netowrking: create a "home" location with your current settings...
[09:11] <VonGuard> agent: ok
[09:11] <josh_> Can anyone help me!? I'm not sure what's causing it to freeze but desperately need to fix it
[09:11] <nalioth> josh_: there could be MANY things that cause that
[09:11] <n00bzer> im totally lost with this raid thing, im following http://www.ubuntu-in.org/wiki/SATA_RAID_Howto, and it says that gparted will see my raid array when i activate it in dmraid, but it doesnt, any ideas?
[09:11] <nalioth> josh_: bad power supply, bad ram, bad motherboard, and the list goes on and on
[09:11] <bubbles2002> ok - i am back.. looking to try and connect my WRT54G w/ the LIVECD.  it recognizes it when I load up - but when I put in my encryption key - it still doesnt connect. any thoughts?
[09:11] <josh_> i realize that but is there anyway i can tell what it is?i
[09:11] <CrazytalesAway> Quick question - Edubuntu is closer to Ubuntu than Kubuntu, right?
[09:12] <josh_> i'm running a brand new computer!
[09:12] <agent> VonGuard: then, when you are in public, uncheck your netowrk card -> click on your netowrk card -> properties and change all that stuff - for example, if you do not need an essid, erase it, if you do not need a password, erase it, then ok and check that netowrk card again
[09:12] <agent> VonGuard: that should work
[09:12] <josh_> and windows runs perfectly
[09:12] <CrazytalesAway> Than Kubuntu is to Ubuntu rather
[09:12] <nalioth> josh_: well, i suggest you get a linux liveCD and run memtest on your memory for a day or so
[09:12] <agent> VonGuard: if not, you probably need a valid essid so try to find that out
[09:12] <VonGuard> agent: thanks! i will try that
[09:12] <gaten> bubbles: are you using the correct authentication method (ie WAP instead of WEP)
[09:12] <josh_> for a day?
[09:12] <linux_user400354> has my slow net disconnected my computer?
[09:12] <linux_user400354> i have the same net speed as cavemen
[09:12] <gaten> !nvidia
[09:12] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:12] <agent> VonGuard: when you get back home, just select "home" from your location and apply it, that will reset your settings to the ones you need to connect to your house
[09:12] <bubbles2002> gaten - how would I know?
[09:13] <juanchito2006> !usplash
[09:13] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before the login screen appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[09:13] <nalioth> josh_: it takes quite a few hours to test postitively
[09:13] <VonGuard> agent: thanks, i'll try that
[09:13] <pjman> Can anyone help me get German characters in the Character Map (Applications > Accessories > Character Map)?
[09:13] <josh_> ok thanks ill do that
[09:13] <VonGuard> agent: not sure how to make new locations.... but i can figure it out, i'm sure
[09:13] <agent> VonGuard: i had a similar "problem" - work router/ap did not show up so i had to do some "hacking" to find it and enter all info manually
[09:13] <CrazytalesAway> pjman - I just use US international w/deadkeys kbd layout
[09:13] <agent> VonGuard: i have a "home" and "work" location set so i dont have to keep chaning all settings back and forth
[09:14] <CrazytalesAway> System->Preferences->Keyboard
[09:14] <gaten> bubbles: point your web browser to 192.168.1.1 on the computer the router is connected to and see what kind of security it has set up
[09:14] <jawee> join #tancmo
[09:14] <jawee> err
[09:14] <agent> VonGuard: to make a new location, just click the "save" icon
[09:14] <VonGuard> agent: i spend a lot of time at conferences and stuff, so it's a pain to do this everytime. wish it just worked like it used to in Dapper
[09:14] <gaten> anyone know how to apt-get a links version that has SSL enabled?
[09:14] <VonGuard> agent: got it, thanks
[09:14] <agent> VonGuard: it will save your current settings under a new name... that is all it does
[09:15] <bubbles2002> gaten - under security it says firewall enabled.
[09:15] <agent> VonGuard: well, just remember: if those public networks use the same tech that your home network, then you will be able to connect to them, you just need to know the information such as essid, password, etc. (if needed) just like for your home netowrk
[09:16] <daniel77> how can i now if i'm ussing dapper or edgy
[09:16] <gaten> bubbles: look under wireless security
[09:16] <gaten> daniel: cat /etc/issue
[09:16] <VonGuard> agent: ok
[09:16] <pjman> CrazytalesAway - What is deadkeys?
[09:16] <bruenig> !version | daniel77
[09:16] <ubotu> daniel77: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[09:16] <oem> I installed ubuntu using the alternate version and now Im stuck as user "OEM", how do I change that? It told me a way to do that but I didnt write it down...
[09:16] <jlintz> alternate version?
[09:16] <daniel77> dapper ;)
[09:16] <bubbles2002> it says wep
[09:17] <oem> yeah alternate, thers server, desktop, and alternate
[09:17] <bruenig> jlintz, the alternate text-bases install
[09:17] <bubbles2002> if i switch to wap - will that screw up anything??
[09:17] <jlintz> ah
[09:17] <kynes> what's that "wireless security" thing?
[09:17] <gaten> bubbles: it will be more secure, but you'll have to set up any computers that connect to it all over
[09:17] <kynes> is that a new panel or something?
[09:17] <bubbles2002> in what sense?
[09:17] <gaten> bubbles: and you should use WPA2 w/ TKIP
[09:17] <agent> oem: if you are in gnome: system -> administration -> users and groups
[09:17] <kynes> I'm connec to WPA network by editing "/etc/network/interfaces"
[09:18] <bubbles2002> i dont know what that means. :(
[09:18] <agent> oem: you will have to option to rename
[09:18] <gaten> bubbles: umm, then just leave it as is until you do some googling
[09:18] <bubbles2002> will do- thanks.
[09:18] <oem> oh it says "OEM Configuration (temporary user)
[09:19] <agent> oem: however, make sure you also move your home dir to your new name *and* enter your new home dir location under "advanced: home direcotry" - also you probably will want to rename your group frome oem to your new username
[09:19] <n00bzer> raid array in dmraid is not recognized by gparted, is there something i need to do before gparted will see the raid array?
[09:19] <juanchito2006> Hello, I can't see the splash screen
[09:19] <VerdRouseau> Can anyone help me to connect to my printer on a network
[09:20] <agent> oem: okay, that will work too... never did oem install
[09:20] <VerdRouseau> I go to adminstation then printing and I imagine its a windows printer
[09:20] <MohamadABakerman> hello
[09:20] <n00bzer> can any1 please help me?
[09:20] <eztk> i hate xmodmap
[09:20] <MohamadABakerman> how i can re-install my ubuntu
[09:20] <VerdRouseau> so I went to Windows Printer under network printers
[09:21] <eztk> use it once, and it screws ur keyboard mappings up
[09:21] <VerdRouseau> but not sure what to put for the host and printer naem
[09:21] <oem> Alright, I did it, thanks
[09:21] <eztk>  << thats not even the usual quote symbol
[09:21] <Amon_Re> Hey fellas ;)
[09:21] <juanchito2006> Need help with my monitor
[09:21] <eztk> '<< wrong apostophe
[09:21] <eztk> hmph
[09:22] <Amon_Re> Anyone inhere that has a setup with lvm? Think i found a bug....
[09:22] <oem> Since Im using a wireless conenction, is there an option somewhere to see available Access Points and there signal strength? I hate having to type iwconfig wlan0 scan
[09:22] <gaten> Verd: host is the IP address of the computer that the print is connected to. and name is the share name of that printer
[09:23] <VerdRouseau> yes but my printer is not connected to a comp its directly ethernet wired to the router
[09:23] <aramadiloINmyPAN> oem, did you just install ubuntu?
[09:23] <Amon_Re> oem: Network-manager will show you a list of found wlans
[09:23] <oem> yes
[09:23] <oem> wherse network-manager?
[09:23] <xj24> how can i print a pdf scaled to x%?
[09:23] <aramadiloINmyPAN> oem, is there a reason you installed in oem mode?
[09:23] <oem> text mode didnt work
[09:24] <gaten> Verd: ok, then put the IP and the name of the printer
[09:24] <aramadiloINmyPAN> ok theres a last step to oem mode installs this dosent have anything to do with your wireless but
[09:24] <aramadiloINmyPAN> oem, sudo oem-config-prepare
[09:25] <aramadiloINmyPAN> i think,it just sets up your user name, groups,etc
[09:25] <bijan> hey gys, do you know any link which would help me to setting up my send mail in ubuntu, I installed it through synaptic..
[09:25] <oem> is there an easier way to get to terminal? Like a hot key?
[09:25] <lovloss> I honestly dont know where to go or who to ask, but i really need to figure out how to animate in 2d >.< Ktoon crashes every time i start it up - like every kde based program.
[09:25] <Amon_Re> It seems that if you use lvm for /home that firefox can't log into ubuntuforums.com, must be some permissions/fs weirdness i guess
[09:25] <VerdRouseau> gaten- I know the IP for the printer is 192.168.1.108 but how do I find the name?
[09:25] <Amon_Re> oem: <alt><F1>
[09:25] <aramadiloINmyPAN> oem, applications=>accsessorys=>termainal
[09:26] <enyc> Amon_Re: might need ctrl+alt+f1
[09:26] <enyc> oem: might need ctrl+alt+f1
[09:26] <Amon_Re> err, <ctrl><alt><f1>
[09:26] <`rich> VerdRouseau, if it has a DNS name, host 192.168.1.108
[09:26] <Amon_Re> enyc: yea i know, forgot control
[09:26] <lufis> Can someone help me with symbolic linking? Every time I do it the link ends up being broken.
[09:26] <Lynoure> lufis: how do you do it?
[09:26] <VerdRouseau> rich- So your saying that the ip is the name, but what would be the host than?
[09:27] <`rich> no no
[09:27] <bijan>  hey gys, do you know any link which would help me to setting up my send mail in ubuntu, I installed it through synaptic.
[09:27] <`rich> type it into the console
[09:27] <enyc> lufis: using ln ?
[09:27] <deebus> can anyone help me understand the /rc* directories?
[09:27] <`rich> host 192.168.1.108
[09:27] <`rich> it's a command
[09:27] <enyc> lufis: "ln -s <target> <link>" ?
[09:27] <VerdRouseau> ooo
[09:27] <aramadiloINmyPAN> agent, i added the sources fromhttp://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php?title=Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL&printable=yes
[09:27] <Amon_Re> bijan: just start evolution & follow the wizard
[09:27] <linux_user400354> how can i uninstall vmware server?
[09:27] <aramadiloINmyPAN> agent, and still no luck
[09:27] <gaten> Verd: do you have a computer that can connect to it already?
[09:27] <enyc> linux_user400354: how did you install vmware server in the first place?
[09:27] <deebus> linux_user:  there should be an uninstall script
[09:28] <aramadiloINmyPAN> how do i uninstall cups?
[09:28] <VerdRouseau> host 192.168.1.108
[09:28] <VerdRouseau> Host 108.1.168.192.in-addr.arpa not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
[09:28] <timothy> would ubuntu run on a (pII 400mhz 128megs of ram)?
[09:28] <deebus> anyone able to help me out with the /rc* directories?
[09:28] <enyc> VerdRouseau: no reverse-dns
[09:28] <enyc> timothy: oh yes... depends what you want to do if it will be 'fast enough for your uses'
[09:28] <gaten> deebus: the rc.# corresponds to run levels
[09:28] <enyc> timothy: but that will not be rediculouisly slow ;-)
[09:28] <VerdRouseau> host 108.1.168.192
[09:28] <VerdRouseau> Host 192.168.1.108.in-addr.arpa not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
[09:28] <deebus> ok.  what are rc.local and rcS.d?
[09:28] <josteinaj> I can't get my Alt Gr button to work. I have googled it without finding any successful solutions. Any tips?
[09:29] <bijan> :Amon_re, I know evelotion is a client, does it have a server as well?
[09:29] <enyc> josteinaj: what are you trying to do ?  Alt-Gr+something ?
[09:29] <timothy> enyc, my grandfauther's computer, would use it for checking email, im'ing me, and brousing the web
[09:29] <Amon_Re> josteinaj: you running compiz?
[09:29] <lunaphyte> what sort of gui based disk management programs are out there?
[09:29] <enyc> timothy: it will work then.... not fast but fine
[09:29] <lufis> Lynoure: I have two files in /usr/local/lib/mozilla/plugins that I want to link to in another directory. I think i have the syntax wrong.
[09:29] <enyc> timothy: what you dont want is silly winmodem of course... if you have ethernet connection there that is easiest
[09:30] <Amon_Re> bijan: no, you need something else for that, like sendmail or qmail, there are whole books detailing how to setup sendmail, that's not something you want to do over irc ;)
[09:30] <josteinaj> I'm running Xgl/Beryl and I want to be able to write the "at" sign which is Alt Gr + 2 at my Norwegian keyboard
[09:30] <gaten> deebus: read /etc/rcS.d/README
[09:30] <enyc> josteinaj: does it work under non-xgl x-server ?
[09:30] <Amon_Re> josteinaj: disable xgl/beryl ;)
[09:30] <deebus> heh.  thanks.  didn't realize it had a readme
[09:30] <VerdRouseau> Am I typing something in wrong host 108.1.168.192
[09:30] <VerdRouseau> Host 192.168.1.108.in-addr.arpa not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
[09:30] <josteinaj> it works under normal gnome
[09:30] <enyc> josteinaj: hrrm sounds like xgl config is causing some problem to me ?
[09:31] <Amon_Re> VerdRouseau: you have a DNS problem, look into your named config
[09:31] <josteinaj> yeah, how do I fix it without ruining beryl?
[09:31] <Amon_Re> alt GR didn't work for me too with xgl/compiz, never found a fix to it (other then kill xgl)
[09:31] <josteinaj> hmm
[09:31] <VerdRouseau> When I set up the printer it asked for a Host Name I put- Main Print    would that solve anything
[09:31] <VerdRouseau> ?
[09:31] <Lynoure> lufis: see what enyc told you. target is the-thing-you-want-to-link-to and link is where-you-want-the-link.
[09:31] <josteinaj> I've tried editing xorg.conf and changing the keyboard settings
[09:32] <Amon_Re> VerdRouseau: What type of printer?
[09:32] <VerdRouseau> HP Photosmart C6150
[09:32] <deebus> so if I place a script in an /etc/rc#.d/ directory, and it borks something, will ubuntu just stop booting that runlevel?
[09:32] <josteinaj> I've had it working on earlier installations
[09:32] <VerdRouseau> well its C6100 series
[09:32] <Amon_Re> VerdRouseau: that's not a network printer is it?
[09:32] <enyc> Lynoure: I had an old unix-hat who used to work on DEC VMS tell me that he would remember "link file link"
[09:32] <VerdRouseau> yes it has a ethernet port to hook into the router
[09:32] <VerdRouseau> has its own IP
[09:33] <Amon_Re> VerdRouseau: and what IP address does this printer have?
[09:33] <Lynoure> enyc: I often just recheck with man :)
[09:33] <deebus> so if I place a script in an /etc/rc#.d/ directory, and it borks something, will ubuntu just stop booting that runlevel?
[09:33] <gaten> deebus: no, it'll just compain about the script and move on
[09:33] <VerdRouseau> 192.168.1.108
[09:33] <deebus> sweet!
[09:33] <deebus> thanks gaten!
[09:33] <Amon_Re> VerdRouseau: and your PC.
[09:33] <Amon_Re> VerdRouseau: and your PC?
[09:33] <jonathan_> hi!
[09:33] <VerdRouseau> one sec
[09:33] <gaten> deebus: no problem. but be careful about messing with that stuff
[09:33] <linux_user400354> @#^$#$^@$#
[09:33] <josteinaj> well, thanks anyway, good to know others have the same problem as well
[09:33] <VerdRouseau> whats the command in the terminal to check ur ip again
[09:33] <Amon_Re> VerdRouseau: ifconfig
[09:33] <enyc> VerdRouseau: well tnhe printer may do IPP... in which case you may be absle to print to http://192.168.1.108 er a longer url
[09:34] <enyc> VerdRouseau: err http://192.168.1.108:631/ even
[09:34] <deebus> I want to put some source address verification in there...which runlevel happens right before network devices are brought up?
[09:34] <VerdRouseau> 192.168.1.105
[09:34] <enyc> deebus: is this a proc/sys thing?
[09:34] <VerdRouseau> thats mine
[09:34] <deebus> yes
[09:34] <enyc> deebus: then you can use /etc/sysctl.conf
[09:34] <deebus> oh, I didn't know that
[09:34] <Amon_Re> VerdRouseau: and what is asking you for a hostname? Cups or the printer?
[09:34] <eegore> How do I recover my password for my email account in evolution.
[09:34] <VerdRouseau> enyc- How would I go about hooking that up
[09:34] <timothy> um, on this computer I have a radeon 9200, in gnome, ogl apps, (the 3d screen savers and google earth) just don't work, they don't do anything. google earth stops at the loading screen, and the 3d screen savers show a black box in the preview window.
[09:35] <enyc> VerdRouseau: system > administration > printing
[09:35] <VerdRouseau> its asking for Host and Name
[09:35] <Plinty> which packages should I install to be able to compile applications which use wxWidgets? I have installled some packages, but I am missing wx-config and wx/setup.h
[09:35] <enyc> VerdRouseau: add printer  ;-)
[09:35] <enyc> VerdRouseau: Network printer
[09:35] <VerdRouseau> what kind of connection enyc
[09:35] <deebus> enyc:  /etc/sysctl.conf will put it in the appropriate runlevel for me?
[09:35] <Naik0> how do i see witch GTK+2 Engine that is active
[09:35] <enyc> VerdRouseau: try with IPP on http://192.168.1.108/631/  at first
[09:35] <enyc> deebus: I think /etc/sysctl.conf is normally alway loaded
[09:35] <enyc> deebus: something runs 'sysctl -p' somewhere
[09:35] <Amon_Re> VerdRouseau: you should use eighter IPP or HP JetDirect for connection of that printer, it's hostname is the IP address 192.168.1.108
[09:36] <jonathan_> i installed the latest nvidia driver, to have easier twinview set-up on my laptop, after instalation it work perfectly, however after reebooting gdm does not start
[09:36] <kraut> moin
[09:36] <fromvega> Hello
[09:36] <deebus> hm.  this is neat
[09:36] <haxality> is it possible to make a gnome panel completely autohide, instead of leaving a little bit showing?
[09:36] <jonathan_> i have to do modprobe -r nvidia, and then it would start
[09:36] <Plinty> which packages should I install to be able to compile applications which use wxWidgets? I have installled some packages, but I am missing wx-config and wx/setup.h
[09:36] <VerdRouseau> Someone once told me a command on the terminal to get my URI?
[09:37] <fromvega> How do I unblock a site in SQUID? I have set http_access deny !list1, and later in the config it is blocking all other sites. I want to reset this list. Is there a way?
[09:37] <Amon_Re> VerdRouseau: you don't need your URI to setup a printer
[09:37] <magic_ninjai> !mp32wav
[09:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp32wav - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:37] <xj24> how can i print a pdf scaled to x%?
[09:37] <jonathan_> so i added nvidia to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, however it does not work. any sugestion?
[09:37] <erUSUL> !info soundconverter
[09:37] <Amon_Re> fromvega: squid doesn't use a list, it uses the allow & deny rules
[09:37] <ubotu> soundconverter: convert sound files to other formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 48 kB, installed size 300 kB
[09:37] <VerdRouseau> Amon_Re- under CUPs setup Its asking for URI?
[09:38] <magic_ninjai> !mp3
[09:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:38] <Amon_Re> VerdRouseau: ipp://192.168.1.108:631
[09:38] <Plinty> which packages should I install to be able to compile applications which use wxWidgets? I have installled some packages, but I am missing wx-config and wx/setup.h
[09:38] <fromvega> Amon_Re: yes, but once denied, always denied. At least, it's how it's acting here! Do you have any idea to fix it?
[09:38] <VerdRouseau> Amon_Re- So put that into the URI-tab for Cups Network PRinter
[09:38] <Amon_Re> fromvega: yea, edit your squid config files & restart squid
[09:38] <Amon_Re> VerdRouseau: yes
[09:39] <deebus> enyc:  can I put an echo statement in /etc/sysctl.conf so I can see during boot-up when my changes are being applied?
[09:40] <Amon_Re> Does anyone here have an account on ubuntuforums.com ? I need to get someone to reply to a thread there relating a login problem with firefox (and i can't log in because i have the same problem ;))
[09:40] <pike_> Plinty: not sure but apt-cache search wx | grep dev might be a good start
[09:40] <haxality> is it possible to make a gnome panel completely autohide, instead of leaving a little bit showing?
[09:40] <enyc> deebus: no
[09:41] <enyc> deebus: sysctl.conf is a config file read by sysctl / procps init
[09:41] <gaten> gdm is failing when i try to start it with: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so is an unrecognized module type. Then it fails to load the driver. but modproe nvidia shows no errors. any ideas?
[09:41] <jonathan_> if i am able to launch X (gdm) after running "sudo modprobe -r nividia" technicaly. i only need to add nvidia to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist right?
[09:41] <timothy> with gdm, how do I kill x, like really kill it, I need to change grafics drivers I think, and I don't want anything in the way
[09:41] <Amon_Re> gaten: from the console: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:41] <deebus> enyc:  so I would just have to wait until I log in, then check the value of the file?
[09:41] <Amon_Re> timothy: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[09:42] <jonathan_> timothy :  sudo killall gdm
[09:42] <enyc> deebus: in edgy, sysctl is called from  /etc/init.d/procps.sh  linked-to from /etc/rcS.d/S17procps.sh
[09:42] <gaten> Amon_Re: ive done that many times. the only thing it does is start up X with a blank screen and I can hear the drums
[09:42] <fromvega> Amon_Re: do you understand?
[09:42] <enyc> deebus: however since edgy uses upstart instead of sysvinit  things may not work how I think ;-)
[09:42] <deebus> hm.  yikes
[09:42] <Amon_Re> fromvega: understand what?
[09:42] <julian__> hey guys wats the best driver for intel 915 on dapper
[09:43] <deebus> what about dapper?  still works the same?
[09:43] <Amon_Re> gaten: use the vesa driver instead of the nv or nvidea one (no autodetection of the gfx card), that should atleast get you up & running again
[09:44] <xichu> hello
[09:44] <xichu> from mexico
[09:44] <gaten> Amon_Re ok thank you. I'll try that
[09:44] <L0cKd0wN> hey guys, tried installing ubuntu on my second hard drive, to dual boot, and when I restarted, windows XP launched... :( no choice, no bootloader
[09:44] <Amon_Re> L0cKd0wN: well, that's because your bootloader is on the wrong disk then
[09:44] <Hansel> heh.
[09:44] <xichu> its posible save in the hard drive the wikipedia
[09:45] <jonathan_> i installed the latest nvidia driver, to have easier twinview set-up on my laptop, after instalation it work perfectly, however after reebooting gdm does not start
[09:45] <xichu> from use similat to encarta
[09:45] <jonathan_> if i am able to launch X (gdm) after running "sudo modprobe -r nividia" technicaly. i only need to add nvidia to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist right?
[09:45] <VerdRouseau> Alright, so I set up a Network CUPS Printer with URI of ipp://192.168.1.108:631  not sure what wrong but stil doesnt work
[09:45] <xichu> oh you need
[09:45] <fromvega> Amon_Re: man,  in squid's config file, you can ban access to site through list coming from the list setted on ACL's right? OK, so then we go down, and put: http_access DENY/ALLOW theACL_PATH ok?
[09:45] <jonathan_> i have to do modprobe -r nvidia, and then it would start
[09:45] <enyc> deebus: you might look for "setting kernel variables" message
[09:45] <xichu> go to the /etc/X11
[09:45] <enyc> deebus: seemingl edgy should be displaying that message at startup
[09:45] <xichu> in this folder
[09:45] <xichu> you open
[09:45] <jonathan_> so i added nvidia to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, however it does not work. any sugestion?
[09:46] <xichu> open with nano the archive
[09:46] <L0cKd0wN> Amon_Re: uhhh i just did next -> next -> next through the installation pretty much, so whatever it did, it did on it's own heh.... where should the bootloader go? :)
[09:46] <Amon_Re> fromvega: i'm not that familiar with squid's syntax, it usually involves regex expressions
[09:46] <deebus> enyc:  I'm running dapper on this box (don't want to mess with setting up beryl again) ...it should work fairly similarly, right?
[09:46] <xichu> xorg._conf 2006xxx  wherever
[09:46] <xichu> and the you save as xorg.conf
[09:46] <dennis_> What's the program I use, if there is one, to extract tracks from CDs and make them mp3 files?  Is this a two step process?
[09:46] <fromvega> Amon_Re: so, if i've denied some site, and in the code bellow, i want to RESET that supposed DENY / ALLOW thing. Now, how can i do it? do u have any idea? i think we have to purge the results...
[09:46] <elvirolo> hi all
[09:46] <VerdRouseau> Is that URI address right you thnk ipp://192.168.1.108:631
[09:46] <Amon_Re> L0cKd0wN: into the partition where you installed ubuntu, if you overwrite the bootloader of windows you might render your windows install unbootable
[09:46] <xichu> hi virolo
[09:47] <xichu> where are you from
[09:47] <xichu> man
[09:47] <elvirolo> whenever I run apt-get, i get the following message :Segfault (core dumped)
[09:47] <L0cKd0wN> definitely can't lose windows :(
[09:47] <selwyn> hi everyone
[09:47] <Turgon> Just in case someone knows an easy answer: I started writing a document in Ubuntu, and I chose the font "URW Gothic". In this document, I use the Mathematical character subset of that font. Now I want to keep working in this document in Windows. The only "URW Gothic" free files for Windows I have found don't have this subset I need. How could I export the font from Linux to a Windows...
[09:47] <Amon_Re> fromvega: there are *NO* results, every url gets matched to the regex expressions in the config files, if they match, they get eighter blocked or allowed depending on what the rule says
[09:47] <Turgon> ...compatible format? If that is not possible, do you know where could I download a full version of the font? Thanks for your time.
[09:48] <rance> I was really hoping to lose windows, and now I run windows from a vmware based virtual machine
[09:48] <L0cKd0wN> lol
[09:48] <emil_> i have already beryl 0.1.4 could someone tell mi how to turn on 3d world
[09:48] <L0cKd0wN> not sure that helps my situation
[09:48] <L0cKd0wN> ...
[09:48] <juanchito2006> !dpms
[09:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dpms - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:48] <Amon_Re> L0cKd0wN: some bios's let you set the secondary drive as a bootdisk, if you can do that, that would solve your problem (maybe, depending on how XP reacts to it)
[09:48] <rance> L0cKd0wN: what is your situation?
[09:49] <emil_> i have already beryl 0.1.4 could someone tell mi how to turn on 3d world  help please
[09:49] <linopil> where do I tell ubuntu what lang to use for upper ascii AKA non-unicode ?
[09:49] <vincent_____> darkice says: Darkice: darkice.cpp:1100: can't open connector [0] 
[09:49] <juanchito2006> I can't see the usplash screen
[09:49] <L0cKd0wN> Amon_Re: the second drive has: 160gb FAT32 empty partition, 100mb boot partition, 25gb ext3 partition, and 1gb swap partition, is this ideal? I don't think i specified a bootloader location, i'd have to restart and try again...
[09:49] <vincent_____> what could be the problem?
[09:49] <vincent_____> It has worked before
[09:50] <L0cKd0wN> Amon_Re: i used Partitionmagic in windows to set that up... fyi
[09:50] <gaten> Amon_Re: that worked, thank you
[09:50] <elvirolo> how do i rebuild the apt database ?
[09:50] <Fibbs> rehi
[09:50] <Amon_Re> L0cKd0wN: a bootloader is just a sector on a disk or partition, it's not anything that needs extra storage
[09:50] <Amon_Re> gaten: want to help me now? ;)
[09:50] <Sp4rKy> hi
[09:50] <emil_> i have already beryl 0.1.4 could someone tell mi how to turn on 3d world  help please
[09:50] <vincent_____> its darkice 0.17.1 on ubuntu 6.10
[09:50] <gaten> Amon_Re: heh ill give it a shot
[09:50] <Sp4rKy> i've a very special issue with apache
[09:50] <Amon_Re> elvirolo: you need to clear out the cache files in /var/cache/apt iirc
[09:51] <L0cKd0wN> Amon_Re: so i should just simply leave the 100mb parition alone ?
[09:51] <Sp4rKy> i'd already asked on #apache, but there is no solution
[09:51] <L0cKd0wN> and try the bios option...
[09:51] <Amon_Re> gaten: all you need to do is make a post on ubuntuforums.com ;)
[09:51] <elvirolo> Amallya: is that all ?
[09:51] <aleka> mplayer plugin for firefox, viewing video , tried different sources, I can't seem to get an active control <forward, rewind> has anyone got this or ideas on a fix?
[09:51] <gaten> Amon_Re: err, ok. about what?
[09:51] <Amon_Re> L0cKd0wN: check your bios first, if it allows you to specify the other disk as a bootdisk you won't need to reinstall anything
[09:51] <selwyn> i have a big problem displaying DVD, can anyone help me out? i have downloaded several players, but i still need the plugins (torem e.g.)..help me plz
[09:52] <Sp4rKy> so, i get this error in log : "(32)Broken pipe: core_output_filter: writing data to the network"
[09:52] <Amon_Re> gaten: i'll /msg you the text & url of the discussion
[09:52] <VerdRouseau> Instead of the CUPS setup shouldl I try the HP jetdirect?
[09:52] <Sp4rKy> i get it many and many times , so does someone have an idea ?
[09:52] <aleka> hmm.. looks like I am using the totem embedded player... how can I change this for firefox to use mplayer plugin?
[09:52] <Amon_Re> I'm currently having the same session problems on 2 machines, both running Edgy, both using lvm
[09:53] <linopil> any bulgarians?
[09:53] <fnord_> i have basicly no sound in democracy player
[09:53] <fnord_> 14 out of 15 movies play no sound
[09:53] <VerdRouseau> How can I tell if I need to set up my printer with CUPS or any of the other setups?
[09:54] <pike_> aleka: look in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/ or just apt-get remove totem-xine-firefox-plugin i think
[09:54] <Spaghetti_Knife> Hi, I have a problem with my ubuntu. Whenever I get to the beginning of a document and I hit backspace, there's this horrible beep.
[09:54] <Spaghetti_Knife> How do i turn it off?
[09:54] <craig_> I had to leave and log in as myself, but I'll ask again...  How do I extract CD tracks and make theminto mp3s in Ubuntu.  Is there one app to do this, or do I have to use a couple?  I'm trying to fill up my son's mp3 palyer for him that we got him for Christmas
[09:54] <Amon_Re> craig_: you can use eighter soundjuicer or grip
[09:55] <gaten> Spaghetti_Knife: goto System->SOunds->System Beep tab and uncheck it
[09:55] <Amon_Re> craig_: soundjuicer needs the proper gstreamer plugins, grip will need an installed copy of lame
[09:56] <Spaghetti_Knife> gaten: Thank you.
[09:56] <reiki> looking to download the edgy iso again. Can't seem to find my previous download. Going to mirrors I do not see the "generic" one and the i386 image does not do multiprocessor. Did I get the generic kernel AFTER I installed last time?
[09:56] <pike_> aleka: er /usr/lib/firefox/plugins probably
[09:56] <Fibbs> gnomefreak: are you here?
[09:56] <gaten> anyone had any luck running WoW w/ Wine 9.28?
[09:56] <gnomefreak> sortof Fibbs
[09:56] <Amon_Re> btw, anyone know a good way to sync calendars between multiple pc's?
[09:56] <reiki> gaten: yes
[09:57] <fnord_> gaten, yes
[09:57] <Amon_Re> gaten: did you get my /msg's ?
[09:57] <gaten> Amon_Re: no i didnt
[09:57] <aleka> pike, I see both plugins,, for totem and mplayer... don't want to go ahead and delete the totem in case of breakage..
[09:57] <Amon_Re> D'oh :P
[09:57] <gnomefreak> Fibbs: whats up?
[09:57] <gaten> reiki: patches in the ubuntu guides still needed?
[09:58] <Amon_Re> gaten: the message is: "I'm having the same authenticated sessions issue in Firefox on both my machines (both clean installs), the only thing the machines have in common is lvm, do you also use lvm?"
[09:58] <craig_> Amon_Re, lame is what I need to encode mp3?
[09:58] <teclo-> How can I configure which charsets I want to use ? dpkg-reconfigure locales does not ask me anything....
[09:58] <reiki> gaten: nope... you have nVidia?
[09:58] <Fibbs> gnomefreak: i analyzed my problem any further and found out the following: the postinst script of linux-image-generic package invokes the command /usr/sbin/mkinitramfs --supported-host-version=2.6.17-10-generic --supported-target-version=2.6.17-10-generic to find out if mkinitramfs is able to produce a initrd for the kernel, but mkinitramfs does not accept the two parameters
[09:58] <Amon_Re> gaten: the thread is: http://www.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=324600&highlight=firefox+can%27t+log+in
[09:58] <gaten> reiki: yes, but its provuing to be difficult to install
[09:58] <pike_> aleka: its best to use synaptic or apt-get to remove but you can safely delete them. basically to install a plugin all you do is drop it in that directory and restart firefox.  you can go to about:plugins in firefox addressbar to see whats installed
[09:58] <juano_> racarr: how do i rotate the desktop?
[09:58] <gaten> Amon_Re: ok ill check it out
[09:58] <Amon_Re> craig_: yes, it's an encoder, and grip is a front-end
[09:59] <craig_> Amon_Re, awesome
[09:59] <reiki> gaten: install from repository... not compiled
[09:59] <Amon_Re> gaten: my nick there is also Amon_Re (incase they need to contact me)
[09:59] <Fibbs> gnomefreak: unrecognized option `--supported-host-version=2.6.17-10-generic' unrecognized option `--supported-target-version=2.6.17-10-generic'
[09:59] <racarr> juano_: Control+alt+left/right or control+alt+click on blank desktop or mousewheel on blank desktop
[09:59] <Fibbs> gnomefreak: can you invoke the command on your system please?
[09:59] <tarzeau> elvirolo: i've got a debian problem, can i ask you?
[09:59] <Amon_Re> craig_: you might need to activate universe/multiverse repositories, don't remember wich one it was
[09:59] <marcio> oi
[09:59] <gnomefreak> Fibbs: i dont have that kernel on my system
[10:00] <juano_> wooow racarr
[10:00] <juano_> racarr: hehe
[10:00] <fnord_> whats a link to a cool video to show off beryl?
[10:00] <reiki> gaten: ok to PM you?
[10:00] <gaten> reiki: did that, complains that it cant find nvidia module.
[10:00] <Fibbs> gnomefreak: do it with your running kernel version, just `uname -r`
[10:00] <gRaCiOsO> hi excuse somone here know how can i install a webcam here in ubuntu 6.06 dapper ?
[10:00] <reiki> gaten: which nVidia drivers are you running?
[10:01] <craig_> Amon_Re, nope, I'd done that when I first set up the box for him, things are installing ok, I jsut didn't knwo what apps I was looking for.  I'm still transitioning from RH/Fedora.  I realize that the apps are the same, I've just never used them before.
[10:01] <gnomefreak> Fibbs: its not gonna be the same. Feisty doesnt run the same scripts anymore IIRC
[10:01] <gnomefreak> feisty is gonna have the rest of upstart
[10:02] <marcio> feliz natal !!!
[10:02] <marcio> hehe
[10:02] <Fibbs> umm you might be right gnomefreak
[10:02] <Infeliz> woot
[10:02] <pike_> gRaCiOsO: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam  or search on ubuntuforums.org  might be a good starting place
[10:02] <Amon_Re> craig_: good luck with the encoding ;)
[10:04] <Spaghetti_Knife> Where do I find help for java?
[10:04] <linopil> how do I use xsane as server for local network?
[10:04] <linopil> !flash | linopil
[10:04] <ubotu> linopil: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:04] <gRaCiOsO> pike_ thanks
[10:05] <theflyingfool> does anyone know how to diagnose time out errors with email and irc
[10:05] <craig_> Amon_Re, Ok, it seems to be going, but it's only grabbing stuff at 1X.  This could take forever.  Is it my CDROM? It's old, but not that slow...
[10:05] <pike_> theflyingfool: you on wireless?
[10:06] <Spaghetti_Knife> Where can I go for java help?
[10:06] <theflyingfool> yes i am on wireless
[10:06] <Amon_Re> craig_: it's cdparanoia, it's great at ripping cd's but it ain't fast, cdda2wav should be faster (config > rip > ripper)
[10:06] <btrento> does anyone know where i can find an up to date howto for aiglx for an intel 855gm
[10:07] <craig_> Amon_Re, Bah, I'll just let it go.  I've got to log off as me so he can do it in his profile.  Haven't figured out how to launch X apps yet from a terminal, so I feel like I'm in XP again...  THanks a bunch for the help though.
[10:07] <Tangrim> bonjour
[10:08] <Frem> How can I make dapper connect to a specific wifi network on boot without any user interaction?
[10:08] <Tangrim> bonjour
[10:08] <Frem> I've got /etc/network/interfaces set up with the correct info, but I don't know what to do from there and Google isn't being very helpful.
[10:08] <theflyingfool> pike_: do you have any ideas
[10:09] <pike_> theflyingfool: so are you wanting to increase the timeout setting on an app or figure out what the problem is withe the wireless? like ping google.com   is timing out occationally?
[10:09] <Spaghetti_Knife> Hi, can anybody tell me where I could find help with my java?
[10:10] <theflyingfool> pike_: it only times out on connecting to irc and email, if increasing the time out time might fix it then its worth a try but i would prefer to know the problem
[10:10] <Amon_Re> Spaghetti_Knife: the coffee? (/me ducks)
[10:10] <Spaghetti_Knife> Argh...
[10:10] <gaten> theflyingfool: try traceroute?
[10:11] <Frem> Spaghetti_Knife: wiki! https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[10:11] <theflyingfool> gaten: from terminal?
[10:11] <fnord_>  every time i try and start beryl-manager my screen flashes the wobbly beryl logo then the screen flashes a lot and kicks me back to my ubuntu edgy logon screen
[10:11] <pike_> theflyingfool: maybe chaning the channel on the router or it might be a proximity thing.  also iwconfig allows you to set the transmit power of your card if youre not able to get any closer to the router.  90% of the time with wireless its something like that
[10:11] <Amon_Re> ARGH! God damn it this sucks
[10:11] <Amon_Re> epyphany (spelling?) has the same problem as firefox with authenticated sessions
[10:11] <Amon_Re> grmbl grmbl
[10:12] <Amon_Re> Zaggynl: thx ;)
[10:12] <Zaggynl> holy crap
[10:12] <gaten> theflyingfool: yes. trace the server you are trying to connect to, if u get a really long response at some server, there is your problem
[10:12] <trilingualkid> Hi. I have a question about updating by OS.
[10:12] <Amon_Re> Zaggynl: that won't get me logged into ubuntuforums.com, but hey ;)
[10:13] <lynucs> When using motherboards with 5.1 sound support, be sure to turn off "Mic as Center/LFE" and "Line as surround" options in the mixer. These options might not be present in pure OSS, you should be using ALSA with such motherboards anyway.
[10:13] <theflyingfool> pike_: how do i use iwconfig
[10:13] <Zaggynl> my whole screen fills with what you're saying D:
[10:13] <lynucs> how to do this??
[10:13] <lynucs> i cant find the options
[10:13] <lynucs> :(
[10:13] <Amon_Re> join #ubuntu-server
[10:14] <lynucs> me?
[10:14] <Amon_Re> Lol no lynucs
[10:14] <Amon_Re> forgot me /
[10:14] <sedat> how can I resize an avi file
[10:14] <lynucs> ah ok :D
[10:14] <trilingualkid> Hi. I have a question about updating by OS. When 7.04 Feisty Fawn comes out in April, will I be able to just update to the new OS or will I have to erase my hard drive by booting from the live CD and doing a clean erase?
[10:14] <sedat> I just want to shrink it from 348MB  to 340MB without re encoding
[10:14] <Amon_Re> sedat: install avidemuw
[10:14] <Amon_Re> sedat: install avidemux
[10:14] <trilingualkid> Hi. I have a question about updating my OS. When 7.04 Feisty Fawn comes out in April, will I be able to just update to the new OS or will I have to erase my hard drive by booting from the live CD and doing a clean erase?
[10:14] <Amon_Re> err, scratch what i said then ;)
[10:15] <sedat> Amon_Re:
[10:15] <lynucs> how to turn off "mic as center / LFE" and "line as surround" in alsa?
[10:15] <theflyingfool> how do i change options in iwconfig
[10:15] <pike_> theflyingfool: its a very good tool to understand for instance if im at command line and want to connect to a hotspot i might do: sudo iwconfig ath0 essid linksys   then sudo dhclient ath0  to aquire an ipaddress.   for txpower it might be like sudo iwconfig ath0 txpower auto  or instead of auto maybe 30mW  you might "man iwconfig"
[10:15] <Hansel> trilingualkid - you can apt-get and use the upgrade option.
[10:15] <maloirvb> hey
[10:15] <Frem> trilingualkid: you'll be able to update from edgy, but things will probably go more smoothly if you just wipe and install.
[10:16] <trilingualkid> Hansel : What does apt-get do?
[10:16] <trilingualkid> and Frem:
[10:16] <juanchito2006> I need hel, mi monitor get out of sync after rebooting after installing the ati driver
[10:16] <fnord_> trilingualkid, you wont need to upgrade to fiesty more then likly.new isnt always better. especialy with new versions
[10:16] <elvirolo> my god, the guys in #debian _are_ a caricature of themselves
[10:16] <lynucs> apt-get downloads packets from repository
[10:16] <fnord_> but you can upgrade without deleteing
[10:16] <juanchito2006> *help
[10:16] <elvirolo> can anyone tell me how to rebuild my apt/dpkg database ?
[10:17] <trilingualkid> fnord_: what do you mean by "new isn't always better"? The features seem preety cool
[10:17] <Frem> trilingualkid: New tends to break stuff.
[10:17] <Hansel> apt-get dist-upgrade <--- they usually put the whole process up on the site of the steps you need to follow.  Occasionally, depending on the system, you will get breakage... if you can backup your /home and do a full re-install it's almost 100% guaranteed to work without a hitch.
[10:17] <maddash> does anyone know of a way to strip down ubuntu to its barebones so that it'll run EMC2 (www.linuxcnc.org) on a 500 Mhz PC w/only 192 RAM?
[10:17] <zebob> elvirolo, i'll tend to says apt-get update
[10:17] <Amon_Re> elvirolo: sudo rm /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin
[10:17] <trilingualkid> Frem: Well, Edgy Eft was new once, but it's great. What could be so bad about feisty?
[10:18] <Frem> maddash: use a server install.
[10:18] <Amon_Re> zebob: not when it segfaults :)
[10:18] <elvirolo> zebob: unfortunately, apt-get update segfaults as well :(
[10:18] <zebob> ok i learn a new thing ^^
[10:18] <maddash> frem: what're the requirements for the server install? how's it diff from the ubuntu-desktop?
[10:18] <Amon_Re> elvirolo: sudo rm /var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin
[10:18] <maloirvb> hey
[10:18] <Frem> trilingualkid: That's what you think. Edgy caused massive breakage when it came out for myself and a ton of other people. I'm still not using it.
[10:18] <maddash> !server
[10:18] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments. The default install includes a server kernel and no GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current stable version is 6.06 LTS. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/
[10:18] <elvirolo> Amon_Re: thanks i'll try that
[10:18] <Amon_Re> elvirolo: after you deleted those 2 files, run sudo apt-get update again
[10:19] <CrazytalesAway> !edubuntu
[10:19] <ubotu> Edubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org
[10:19] <CrazytalesAway> !error
[10:19] <ubotu> Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[10:19] <elvirolo> Amon_Re: thanks a lot mate, it works :)
[10:19] <CrazytalesAway> !notaperson
[10:19] <trilingualkid> Frem: Well, I only got Edgy 3 days ago; should I Wait until about June 2007 until there are almost 100 updates, then, rather than updating to Feisty the day it comes out?
[10:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about notaperson - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:19] <pike_> maddash: i ran ubuntu and debian not too long ago in a p133 16mb ram using blackbox as a wm it wasnt too bad
[10:19] <Frem> maddash: Not sure what the requirements are. It's pretty low. 40mb ram & 50mb hd space?
[10:19] <CrazytalesAway> Feisty = Ferret?
[10:20] <Hansel> keep in mind minimum requirements are minimum for the system to actually WORK... not work and be tolerable...
[10:20] <Amon_Re> elvirolo: np
[10:20] <Frem> trilingualkid: Edgy broke a ton of stuff for me. If it works for you, great, but I won't touch it. I'm running dapper, and when feisty comes out, I'll wipe and install that.
[10:20] <trilingualkid> crazytalesaway: Feisty Fawn - feisty means irritable - fawn means young deer
[10:20] <Hansel> You can very easily install Ubuntu on a 400mhz 128mb RAM comp... with a GUI it is going to be so slow it will make you want to gouge your eyes out.
[10:20] <CrazytalesAway> Ah
[10:20] <CrazytalesAway> I know
[10:21] <CrazytalesAway> I thought it was Feisty Ferret for some reason :/
[10:21] <trilingualkid> Frem: so, do you recommend waiting a while after Feisty comes out before updating?
[10:21] <CrazytalesAway> !qwerty
[10:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qwerty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:21] <fnord_> so the new verseion will be irritateing?
[10:21] <CrazytalesAway> !feisty
[10:21] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[10:21] <Seveas> trilingualkid, feisty is nowhere near finished yet....
[10:21] <zspada15> hi
[10:21] <Seveas> CrazytalesAway, don't.
[10:21] <CrazytalesAway> Okay
[10:22] <Frem> trilingualkid: I recommend that about any major OS update. Vista, OS X, etc.
[10:22] <wizard> why does my computer keep spitting out my DVD?
[10:22] <Seveas> hmm... I'm opped...
[10:22] <zspada15> do i want the 64 bit desktop version of ubuntu if i have an intel prescott with EMT64?
[10:22] <fnord_> is there any way to alpha test fiesty?
[10:22] <Seveas> means someone was channelpinging :)
[10:22] <CrazytalesAway> zspada15: yes
[10:22] <Seveas> fnord_, sure, download it now :)
[10:22] <zspada15> CrazytalesAway: thanks
[10:22] <CrazytalesAway> np
[10:23] <maddash> pike_: define "too bad." when i ran the normal ubuntu-desktop setup on this machine, it was so slow that I couldn't get past the login screen
[10:23] <trilingualkid> Frem: Ok. Would July (rather than april) sound like a good time? When I substituted WinXP for Ubuntu Edgy, there were 82 updates from a month of edgy's release. Would 2 months sound like enough for Feisty to settle down?
[10:23] <Lynoure> fnord_: there is even #ubuntu+1 for talk and support about it
[10:23] <fnord_> thanks
[10:23] <wizard> I put my dvd into the player and within a minute, it spits it back out.  I don't understand why it wouldn't just leave it in there if it couldn't read it, nor how to fix this problem.  I've installed win32codecs
[10:23] <Lynoure> trilingualkid: you'll prolly see whether you want to upgrade to it then. Why try to live in the future? :)
[10:23] <Frem> trilingualkid: A week or two is good enough for me, as long as there isn't another mass breakage like with edgy.
[10:24] <trilingualkid> Frem and Lynoure: OK. Thanx for the info. I'm always curious about what's gonna happen next. Have a nice day.
[10:24] <Stormx2> edgy broke nothing for me O_o
[10:24] <wizard> As a matter of fact, it's consistantly spitting out all CDs
[10:24] <Seveas> I usually upgrade months before release, after all initial breakages are over (eg: now)
[10:25] <Hansel> If you are a bleeding edger then you should have a VERY good understanding of linux... you will be fixing lots of breakage in most cases.
[10:25] <Seveas> Hansel, indeed
[10:25] <stevr1it> anyone has experience with ekiga and voipstunt?
[10:25] <Frem> Seveas: there are still some edgy bugs. My toshiba touchpad functions won't work on boot with edgy, I have to reset X.
[10:25] <Seveas> Frem, there will always be bugs
[10:25] <Seveas> there is no such thing as a bug-free OS
[10:26] <Frem> Seveas: Dapper didn't have this bug. ;-)
[10:26] <Hansel> Well, in theory there is  :)  Back here in reality though...
[10:26] <Seveas> Frem, but dapper had and has other bugs ;)
[10:26] <pike_> maddash: usable.  it depends on what you want.  a nice desktop system probably not.  unless you go with fluxbox and a lighter web browser.  damn small linux thought might be better in your situation. i used to use vector linux as well and its very nice. no reason not to install all of them if you have the hd space. :)
[10:26] <Frem> Edgy just had a ton more bugs then dapper did for me.
[10:26] <Seveas> other way around for me
[10:26] <Seveas> but edgy isn't for the people who want stability
[10:27] <ubuntuuser> i installed wine, but it doesn't work right. i can use winecfg, but i can't open exe's or even rigth click on one and see the option for wine
[10:27] <Seveas> that's why dapper is LTS
[10:27] <jessid> hello friends... before I get lost in a conversation, I want to wish all of you a very, very Happy New Year...full with success and good things in your lives....sorry for my english, but good will is what really cares, jejeje...
[10:27] <ubuntuuser> i am using 6.06
[10:27] <fnord_>  every time i try and start beryl-manager my screen flashes the wobbly beryl logo then the screen flashes a lot and kicks me back to my ubuntu edgy logon screen
[10:27] <IdleOne> Seveas, so you dont recommend upgrading to egdy?
[10:28] <apokryphos> ubotu: beryl | fnord_
[10:28] <ubotu> fnord_: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[10:28] <Seveas> IdleOne, depends on the situation
[10:28] <apokryphos> IdleOne: edgy is fine to use; upgrading is dodgy though.
[10:28] <L0cKd0wN> jessid: thank you :) i hope this next year was better than this one, broke up with fiancee and lots of other crap, so here's to 2007! :)
[10:28] <Seveas> IdleOne, for a server which needs maximum stability I stay with dapper
[10:28] <apokryphos> IdleOne: Dapper had its issues around too, but it's better stability-wise than edgy.
[10:28] <Hansel> IdleOne - have you checked your hardware against the hardware compatability list (HCL)?  Are you familiar with Linux enough to work in the command line interface (CLI) to fix configuration bugs that may arise and not allow you to work with the GUI config tools?
[10:28] <Seveas> but on my desktop I use edgy :)
[10:28] <fnord_> apokryphos, ive been waiting for a long time in -xgl,with no help
[10:29] <juanchito2006> !splash
[10:29] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image using !gconf-editor
[10:29] <fnord_> noones been there for close to an hour
[10:29] <apokryphos> fnord_: and it's still the right place to ask :)
[10:29] <linux_scholar> Hello. I'm new to Linux and would like to find out which version is right for me. How can I find a good one? I'm trying out Ubuntu right now. It seems that the Gnome desktop is right for me. KDE didn't work.
[10:29] <Lynoure> IdleOne: my rule of thumb for upgrading is easy.... Is there something you miss from the new version (something specific)? If not, no need to while the current one is supported.
[10:29] <juanchito2006> !usplash
[10:29] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before the login screen appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[10:29] <dakota> How do you install the 1.0.14rc1 ALSA Driver?
[10:29] <Seveas> fnord_, maybe there are peoplein #beryl who can help
[10:29] <dakota> I get "Cannot create executables"
[10:29] <Hansel> dakota - man insmod
[10:29] <apokryphos> linux_scholar: which desktop environment. I recommend trying out both and deciding.
[10:29] <jessid> L0cKd0wN, I also break my the woman of my life...and now, she is with another man, but...better things in our lives havent come yet...but soon...soon...
[10:30] <dakota> I'm kind of a newbie.
[10:30] <pike_> linux_scholar: try xubuntu as well :)
[10:30] <linux_scholar> apokryphos: I like Gnome better.
[10:30] <apokryphos> linux_scholar: then stick with that.
[10:30] <IdleOne> apokryphos, Seveas and Hansel I'll wait then
[10:30] <linux_scholar> What I don't know is what distro I should choose. What's the difference between Xubuntu, Ubuntu, Gentoo, and all the others? Aren't they the same Linux kernel?
[10:30] <Hansel> IdleOne - if you are running a mission critical server then I probably would recommend one of the BSDs.  They are VERY stable.
[10:31] <Riyonuk> It seems ubuntu is like windows with the XP theme, how would I change it to the "classic theme", I mean save on some memory
[10:31] <Hansel> IdleOne - if its just a server for home use then Linux will work just fine.  :)
[10:31] <apokryphos> linux_scholar: the kernel is an important but only one part of a system
[10:31] <stevr1it> hi, i need to use voipstunt and i am trying with ekiga but i canno have ti working even if i was using the wirking configuration, can you hgelp me?
[10:31] <linux_scholar> apokryphos: What's the difference between Ubuntu and Xubuntu, for example?
[10:31] <apokryphos> linux_scholar: many things differ between distributions. Such as package management, desktop environment perhaps, etc
[10:31] <dakota> Ok, Newbie trying to install ALSA 1.0.14RC1 and getting a "Cannot create executables" upon ./configure, I have the COnexant HD AUdio
[10:31] <IdleOne> Lynoure, probaly right . I'm not missing any features running dapper so i'll just be patient :0
[10:31] <T2> is there an ubuntu general programming irc channel?
[10:32] <apokryphos> linux_scholar: it's not so correct to see them as distinct distributions, since Xubuntu is part of Ubuntu.
[10:32] <idlemind> dakota: run away
[10:32] <apokryphos> linux_scholar: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[10:32] <apokryphos> must go for a bit though, back later.
[10:32] <jessid> I have a very simple question: In windows thare is a tool used to defrag the disk...In Linux, what kind of tools are there, if I want to do something like maintenance service to the disks of my PC????
[10:32] <flargen> dakota: try - sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:32] <Hansel> jessid - fragmentation is a good thing in Linux...
[10:32] <idlemind> jessid: if u use ext3 no need to defrag
[10:32] <linux_scholar> apokryphos: I know Xubuntu related to Ubuntu, but what's the difference between the 2 (and how do you pronounce Xubuntu)?
[10:32] <mwe> Riyonuk: if you want something more light, install xfce or fluxbox maybe
[10:32] <Lynoure> IdleOne: On the other hand, if you think it will be fun to upgrade, take proper backups and take it for a spin for a weekend :)
[10:32] <Riyonuk> those are shells right?
[10:33] <Hansel> those are window managers
[10:33] <mwe> Riyonuk: no. desktop environments
[10:33] <Hansel> shells are bash/tcsh/sh/etc
[10:33] <Riyonuk> ok
[10:33] <IdleOne> Lynoure,  well this week isnt a good week to go for a ride so perhaps i'll wait till next weekend :)
[10:33] <Nikolas> linux_scholar, Xubuntu uses Xfce desktop environment instead of the default gnome
[10:33] <Riyonuk> Are they in the Add/Remove Programs?
[10:33] <pike_> linux_scholar: xubuntu has xfce as the desktop environment ubuntu uses gnome theyre bot the same operating system and you can install both on one comp and swith between then by clickin on 'sessions' button at login screen
[10:33] <Hansel> shells are for the command line interface.  window managers (xfce, enlightenment) or desktop environments (gnome/kde) are graphical...
[10:33] <light_> i'm keep getting "...ImportError: No module named glade"  while trying to upgrade to edgy using "gksu "update-manager -c"" and the apt-get alternative don't work either
[10:34] <linux_scholar> apokryphos: Xfce and Gnome seem like the same thing. What's the difference?
[10:34] <Hansel> xfce is lighter and is not a window environment...
[10:34] <Hansel> it is a window manager.
[10:34] <linux_scholar> What does that mean?
[10:34] <mwe> Riyonuk: Xfce is in there by default. for fluxbox I think you need to enable universe first
[10:34] <Riyonuk> where?
[10:34] <jessid> Hansel,  idlemind ok, but I imagine that some kind of (how to call this?) preemptive maintenance I can do to disks, or I am wrong?
[10:34] <Riyonuk> I just installed ubuntu so Im new to this..
[10:35] <linux_scholar> I know... I'm an oxymoron - i'm not that smart about linux, although i can easily work my way around.... :)
[10:35] <idlemind> ok; so i use linux as main os for everything but gaming because i play FFXI instead of WOW and i just realized you can enable qouta's by right-clicking on the "c" drive; that's handy ...
[10:35] <mwe> !repos | Riyonuk
[10:35] <ubotu> Riyonuk: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[10:35] <Lynoure> IdleOne: I'm myself considering a new hard disk and that is always a wonderful excuse for trying a new version, or new distro, even, as one can go back with a simple plugging in the old disk :)
[10:35] <jessid> Hansel,  idlemind not exactly to defrag...whatever...am I lost? jejeje
[10:35] <light_> !upgrade
[10:35] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[10:35] <idlemind> gnome / kde need such a thing
[10:35] <Aspero> Simple question and I'm sure someone know the answer. Is it possible to play World of Warcraft or any other game for that matter in full screen using cedega?? All the screen shots i've found have been in window mode.
[10:35] <Hansel> jessid - Linux doesnt need to be defragmented... the only thing you need to worry about is setting swap space since resizing it later can be a pain.
[10:35] <idlemind> jessid: it's no need for defrag w/a journal'd filesystem
[10:35] <IdleOne> Lynoure,  thats a great idea :) I do have a spare disk sitting here hehe
[10:35] <Riyonuk> How do I enable universe?
[10:35] <IdleOne> !repos
[10:35] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[10:37] <IdleOne> Riyonuk, ^^^
[10:37] <mwe> Aspero: I'm almost positive it's possible. I don't use cedega though
[10:37] <pike_> we should probably let the folks at xfce.org know theyre not using desktop environment then :)
[10:37] <light_> i'm keep getting "...ImportError: No module named glade"  while trying to upgrade to edgy using "gksu "update-manager -c"" and the apt-get alternative don't work either
[10:37] <gkonrads> To instal printer cannon Ip4000R do anybody now about drivers for it?
[10:37] <Aspero> thanks :)
[10:37] <jessid> Hansel, idlemind ok. Thanks a lot.
[10:37] <Riyonuk> Alright, Ill read upon it
[10:37] <Stormx2> gkonrads: Check ubuntuforums.org
[10:37] <trilingualkid> Can anyone please help me? I have a question about keyboard shortcuts.
[10:37] <mwe> i'd say linuxprinting.org
[10:37] <Lynoure> IdleOne: have fun with it :)
[10:37] <Amon_Re> i'm unable to log into www.ubuntuforums.com, tried with 3 different browsers & it happens on 2 different computers
[10:37] <jessid> so I have another little question: what is fsck used for?
[10:37] <Amon_Re> anyone have an idea or suggestion?
[10:37] <Stormx2> trilingualkid: We can't help you unless you tell us your problem
[10:37] <Lynoure> jessid: try  man fsck  to find out
[10:37] <Amon_Re> jessid: it's used to repair filesystems
[10:37] <Stormx2> Amon_Re: dot org
[10:37] <trilingualkid> Stormx2: what does 0xf5 mean ( to launch the help browser )?
[10:37] <juanchito2007> Helo
[10:38] <juanchito2007> hello
[10:38] <jessid> Amon_Re, and why can fliesystems get damaged i linux?
[10:38] <Stormx2> trilingualkid: 0xf5 is hex. What context is it in? Explain
[10:38] <Lynoure> jessid: man  on the other hand is used to show you the manual page for the command
[10:38] <tschwinge> Hello.
[10:38] <Amon_Re> jessid: power failure, bad disk, crashes, accidental resets....
[10:38] <jessid> Lynoure, thanks I didnt know that
[10:38] <gkonrads> Stormx2 I have and I found IP4000 only I need IP4000R
[10:39] <jessid> Amon_Re ah! ok, thanks a lot...
[10:39] <Stormx2> gkonrads: Does the IP4000 driver not work?
[10:39] <juanchito2007> Hi, I need help with my monitor any idea?
[10:39] <Stormx2> juanchito2007: Not unless you tell us what the problem is.
[10:39] <jessid> Amon_Re, what is the process that runs every 30 mounted times at startup?
[10:40] <gkonrads> Stormx2 Not wireles
[10:40] <zaen> that's an hd scan
[10:40] <Amon_Re> jessid: fsck
[10:40] <Hansel> file system checj
[10:40] <Stormx2> gkonrads: A wireless printer? Eek, how do you connect to it? Is there a dongle or is it networked?
[10:41] <juanchito2007> My monitor is a HP L1706. it doesn't show anything after installing the ubuntu driver
[10:41] <jessid> Amon_Re is that to prevent something?
[10:41] <Amon_Re> Stormx2: you use it with mind power! :)
[10:41] <Amon_Re> jessid: yep, better safe then sorry
[10:41] <Stormx2> Amon_Re: :P
[10:41] <juanchito2007> Stormx2: Now you can help me?
[10:42] <gkonrads> Stormx2 it is networked
[10:42] <jessid> Amon_Re ok, ok. so if I run fsck on another partition, like in /dev/hdb1, can I be sure that filesystem is ok?
[10:42] <lynucs> how can i test which progs may block my alsa???
[10:42] <Riyonuk> Is there a program like network stumbler but for ubuntu?
[10:43] <juanchito2006> me is juanchito2007
[10:43] <ubuntuuser> i just installed vmware, and want to run windows xp in it, how would i go about that?
[10:43] <mwe> jessid: odds are very very high that the fs is ok if fsck says it is
[10:44] <mnoir> ubuntuuser: the first thing would be to ask in a group supporting vmware, I would think
[10:44] <Naik0> why cant i find gtk+2.8 in synaptic?
[10:44] <Kinhoshi> I made a folder in /media/ and I'm using sudo mount smb://192.168.1.103/ /media/mediacenter and it says "Can't get address for smb"
[10:44] <Kinhoshi> Any ideas?
[10:45] <dakota> Ok, trying to install ALSA-Utils 1.0.14rc1 and upon ./configure I get "This packeges requires a curses library"
[10:45] <Kinhoshi> I'm not sure if it matters or not, but it's a shared folder on a Windows machine.
[10:45] <jessid> mwe sorry, but i didn undertod what you told me...you meant that if fsck says fs is ok, i can be quiet?
[10:45] <pike_> vmare server or player or workstation? server or workstation is straight forward the player is a little more headache to install OS's.  check ubuntuforums.org im sure theres a guide
[10:45] <Naik0> why cant i find gtk+2.8 in synaptic? Can someone give me a good sourcelist
[10:45] <Stormx2> juanchito2006: What was wrong with the normal drivers?
[10:46] <mwe> Naik0: because it's not the edgy version
[10:46] <Stormx2> juanchito2006: I gotta shower and shiz... bb in 10
[10:46] <mwe> !info libgtk2.0-0
[10:46] <ubotu> libgtk2.0-0: The GTK+ graphical user interface library. In component main, is optional. Version 2.10.6-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 2420 kB, installed size 5304 kB
[10:46] <Naik0> ah ok
[10:46] <dakota> Ok, trying to install ALSA-Utils 1.0.14rc1 and upon ./configure I get "This packeges requires a curses library"
[10:46] <Cope> has jono been around? or does he not frequent this channel?
[10:46] <juanchito2006> Stormx2: OK
[10:46] <Seveas> Naik0, you're on edgy I presume
[10:46] <Naik0> ofc
[10:46] <mwe> Naik0: why would you need that particular version?
[10:46] <mnoir> jessid: fsck is generally regarded as reliable, especially for ext3 - why do you ask?
[10:46] <Naik0> gtk+ engine
[10:46] <Seveas> Naik0, edgy has gtk 2.10
[10:47] <Naik0> ah
[10:47] <Naik0> but i cant find it
[10:47] <dakota> Please, someone help me
[10:47] <dakota> Ok, trying to install ALSA-Utils 1.0.14rc1 and upon ./configure I get "This packeges requires a curses library"
[10:47] <mwe> Naik0: why do you need that particular version?
[10:47] <Naik0> when i try to install glfat engine it says i need gtk+2.8
[10:47] <Naik0> gflat*
[10:47] <gkonrads> Do someone now about drivers for cannon ip4000R for wireles conetion for network?
[10:47] <mwe> Naik0: using an edgy .deb or what?
[10:47] <Seveas> !find gflat
[10:47] <ubotu> Package/file gflat does not exist in edgy
[10:48] <Naik0> no tar.gz
[10:48] <Seveas> Naik0, install the libgtk -dev package
[10:48] <miranda82> does anyone here know, how to avoid my screen going black after 10 min watching a movie? (under xgl)
[10:48] <mwe> Naik0: you can't expect random .tar.gz files to work on every system
[10:48] <jessid> mnoir I asked because I am receiving a different message at startup than I used to read before...so that is why I asked, but I think I can be quiet now...or not?
[10:48] <Nikolas> miranda82, disable your screensaver
[10:49] <miranda82> Nikolas, i have no screen saver set
[10:49] <miranda82> Nikolas, under Xorg it does not happen, it's only under XGL
[10:49] <qoq> is it possible to install ubuntu on an external usb hd and boot from it??
[10:49] <Nikolas> :/
[10:49] <Nikolas> Hmm
[10:49] <mwe> Naik0: what is gflat anyway?
[10:49] <dakota> I run ./configure and I get "This packages requires a curses library" when trying to install alsa utils 1.0.14rc1... PLEASE, someone help!
[10:49] <Naik0> Seveas: can i get GTK+2.10 or what, i cant find it
[10:49] <Nikolas> System->Screensaver->Activa screensaver when computer is idle... I'd check that first
[10:50] <Nikolas> Dunno what else it could be
[10:50] <Seveas> Naik0, libgtk2.0-dev
[10:50] <Naik0> yes i did that
[10:50] <Seveas> Naik0, search for libgtk and you'll find it
[10:50] <gkonrads> Do someone now about drivers for cannon ip4000R for wireles conetion for network?
[10:50] <Seveas> there's a + somewhere in the name and I keep forgetting where :)
[10:50] <pucko-> dakota, you probably need libncurses5-dev
[10:51] <apokryphos> !find libgtk
[10:51] <ubotu> Found: libgtk1.2, libgtk1.2-common, libgtk1.2-dbg, libgtk1.2-dev, libgtk1.2-doc (and 99 others)
[10:51] <dakota> Thanks
[10:51] <Naik0> Seveas: you mean that i can find gtk+2.10 when i search for libgtk? No i cant find it
[10:52] <Seveas> Naik0, apt-cache search libgtk
[10:52] <pucko-> qoq, yes if your bios support booting from usb, I would imagine.
[10:52] <Seveas> it's right there...
[10:52] <Seveas> libgtk2.0-dev - Development files for the GTK+ library
[10:52] <Naik0> i did that
[10:52] <Naik0> and i installed that
[10:52] <Seveas> then your sources.list is broken
[10:52] <Seveas> !sources | Naik0
[10:52] <ubotu> Naik0: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[10:52] <mnoir> jessid: looking at the conversation, I'd say you are in good shape.  The only customization you might consider is using tune2fs to make the fsck check more often - I personally like weekly, rather than every 30 boots.  But I have a paranoid production mindset
[10:52] <juano> racarr: how do you activate beryl and emerald icons on system tray, when i logged out and back in they seem to be gone
[10:52] <m12> help!  what could be causing my internet to respond slowly?
[10:53] <Seveas> m12, oil in the tubes
[10:53] <Riyonuk> Is flash player ubuntu supported?
[10:53] <Seveas> !flash|Riyonuk
[10:53] <ubotu> Riyonuk: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:53] <racarr> 'beryl-manager'
[10:53] <Naik0> Seveas: what is the package name iam looking for?
[10:53] <racarr> juano: ^^
[10:54] <miranda82> does anyone here know, how to avoid my screen going black after 10 min watching a movie? (under xgl)
[10:54] <Seveas> Naik0, I've told you twice already....
[10:54] <pike_> m12: cat /etc/resolv.conf  do you have more than one nameserver entry?
[10:54] <Naik0> libgtk?
[10:54] <Riyonuk> Like a apt-get command to install flash
[10:54] <Seveas> Riyonuk, read the page ubotu gave please
[10:54] <racarr> juano: Or add it to gnome startup (guessing you are using gnome? I don't really know how in GNOME) with KDE you can add a script (#!/bin/sh) at the top and 'beryl-manager' as the only other line in ~/.kde/Autostart and run chmod +x script to have it autostart
[10:54] <Riyonuk> alright
[10:54] <racarr> juano: But, beryl-manager is the program
[10:55] <Hansel> miranda82 - turn off your screen saver?  heh.
[10:55] <Kervan> i am using intel 82852 82855 Gm how can i understand am i using the right drivers?
[10:55] <m12> pike_ :  Yes!  is that good or bad?
[10:55] <juano> racarr: thanks :) will do
[10:55] <miranda82> Hansel, i have no screensaver set, it's only under XGL, under Xorg it works well
[10:56] <pike_> m12: depends.  now do "dig google.com"  it will tell you the server it uses then sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf  and comment out the other server like #nameserver and save changes. then see if its any faster
[10:58] <Spaghetti_Knife> Which irc channel should I go to to find help with a simple Java program I'm writing?
[10:58] <Stormx2> Spaghetti_Knife: #java ?
[10:58] <Riyonuk> That page that shows how to add universe repositories isnt right, the menus there referring to arent like mine
[10:58] <Riyonuk> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#what
[10:59] <T2> anyone know if its possible to compile gnu bc code?
[10:59] <Riyonuk> and how come kismet isnt in the Add/Remove list? I cant find it
[10:59] <m12> pike_: I think that did it.  But why did that every happen?  I didn't have the problem until last night, and as far as I know I didn't alter any files
[11:00] <qoq> is it possible to install ubuntu on an external usb hd and boot from it??
[11:00] <mwe> !info kismet
[11:00] <ubotu> kismet: Wireless 802.11b monitoring tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 2006.04.R1-1.1 (edgy), package size 964 kB, installed size 2448 kB
[11:00] <jessid> mnoir oookey, thanks a lot...tune2fs... I will read it man....
[11:00] <jessid> good bye and a happy, happy new year!
[11:00] <mwe> Riyonuk: because universe is not enabled. that's why you don't see it I guess
[11:00] <kuli> Hello do you know hov to connect wireless card
[11:00] <pike_> m12: not sure how ubuntu writes that file but you should keep in mind its not static so the problem might recurr.
[11:00] <mats> Any one who know why my webbrowser and pictures get tiny-tiny blurr.. is it my xorg setup i have to fix? When the menu and everyting else is fine
[11:01] <Riyonuk> Yes universe I figured
[11:01] <Riyonuk> Im trying to figure out how to get to universe..
[11:01] <Riyonuk> mwe, how do I enable this "universe" you speak of
[11:01] <mwe> Riyonuk: open a terminal and type sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list . then remove the # in front of the lines explained in the comments in that file. then save, sudo apt-get update
[11:02] <mwe> !repos | Riyonuk
[11:02] <ubotu> Riyonuk: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[11:02] <Riyonuk> uhh wow
[11:02] <Riyonuk> did you have that memorized?
[11:02] <mwe> Riyonuk: yes ;)
[11:02] <Riyonuk> theres no other way?
[11:02] <Riyonuk> terminal way is kinda hard
[11:03] <apokryphos> Riyonuk: of course. You can do it all via synaptic
[11:03] <apokryphos> ubotu: synaptic
[11:03] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[11:03] <jessid> another question...having almost nothing to do with topic here: some of you have any idea where can I chat about Java? or where can I register to use #java irc channel????
[11:03] <mwe> Riyonuk: yes in synaptics. but I don't use synaptics so I cant help you with that
[11:03] <apokryphos> jessid: ##java
[11:03] <Riyonuk> ok
[11:04] <T2> Riyonuk: synaptic->settings->repositories
[11:04] <benjamin-> hello
[11:04] <Riyonuk> wow theres a bunch more programs in synaptic
[11:04] <mwe> yeah synaptic, not synaptics. synaptics is a touchpad
[11:04] <jessid> apokryphos with ##java nothing happens
[11:04] <T2> Riyonuk: lol
[11:04] <apokryphos> jessid: did you join that channel?
[11:04] <linopil> any BG here?
[11:04] <T2> bg?
[11:04] <Riyonuk> once in options, what do I click?
[11:05] <linopil> t2 ignore if you dont understand
[11:05] <kuli> hello How to connect whireless card on ubunto
[11:05] <benjamin-> can someon tell me how to get englisch error messages (in the bash) in my german ubuntu version ?
[11:05] <jessid> apokryphos what do you mean with join? using gaim, for example?
[11:05] <_Ace2016_> Hi all
[11:05] <gean> i'm runnin' Mepis Linux, (ubuntu never installed, more then one month of try-and-suffer,) well, Mepis has the same repositories, desktop is KDE, only difference, after re-installing all audio related packages in the ubuntu main repositories i experience problems with the SOUND... xmms reports error when starting: [** WARNING **: alsa_setup(): Failed to open pcm device (default): Device or resource busy]  ... xine starts with delay, complains abou
[11:05] <gean> t alsa... any idea, how to get sound again? Finally: [[  lspci | grep Audio   ->  0000:00:1b.0 0403: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 03) ] ] 
[11:06] <apokryphos> jessid: /join ##java
[11:06] <Riyonuk> Oh, cool, I found kismet
[11:06] <jessid>  /join ##java
[11:06] <kuli> hello How to connect whireless card on ubunto
[11:06] <mwe> benjamin-: change your locale
[11:06] <_Ace2016_> anyone know a command that'll rename something.flv.mpeg to something.mpeg, i need a command to remove flv from the filename
[11:06] <mwe> benjamin-: what does 'locale' output in a terminal?
[11:06] <m12> i downloaded python paste per these instructions (http://pythonpaste.org/download/) but the "paster" command doesn't do anything.  any ideas as to why?
[11:06] <IdleOne> jessid, dont put a space in front of /join ##java
[11:08] <benjamin-> mwe: yes my local is set to "de_DE" - thanks for help - how to change this can i find via google (-:
[11:08] <mwe> benjamin-: well first see if an english one is availble. type locale -a, does it show en_ something?
[11:09] <alexander_> hello all
[11:09] <Riyonuk> I installed kismet
[11:09] <Riyonuk> where is it?
[11:09] <benjamin-> mwe: jep, en_US is aviable
[11:09] <alexander_> where can i put a command i want to run on every boot? or perhaps periodically?
[11:09] <alexander_> periodically would be better
[11:09] <apokryphos> !cron
[11:09] <ubotu> cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[11:09] <miranda82> alexander, look for cron
[11:09] <m12> alexander_:  try crontab
[11:10] <mwe> benjamin-: en_US.utf8 ?
[11:10] <Riyonuk> I dont see kismet in Applications
[11:10] <linopil> how to copy burn CD on gnome?
[11:11] <icheyne> !burn | linopil
[11:11] <ubotu> linopil: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[11:11] <cody> hi all. Anyone out there able to help me get wireless working on my laptop. I am getting this error. "siocgifflags error no such device"
[11:11] <mwe> benjamin-: en_US.utf8, is that what you see from locale -a?
[11:12] <icheyne> linopil I like graveman
[11:12] <icheyne> it's ugly but it works
[11:12] <benjamin-> mwe: yes, thats it
[11:12] <fromvega2> Hello, could you help-me with SQUID.conf logics? I have at least two files with site addrs, like LIST1 and LIST2. Also, I have at least two user groups, like USERS1 and USERS2. I want to allow USERS1 to access only sites in LIST1 and to allow USERS2 to access only the sites in LIST2 and so on... But I can't figure it how the logic should be using ACLs and http_access. Could you help-me?
[11:12] <mwe> benjamin-: all right. export LC_ALL=en_US.utf8
[11:12] <mwe> benjamin-: do you want it permanently, though?
[11:13] <jessid> IdleOne man, nothing happens...
[11:14] <IdleOne> jessid, what program are you using to chat right now?
[11:14] <benjamin-> mwe: yes, permanently - this german errors dont help me mutch ..
[11:14] <jessid> IdleOne gaim
[11:14] <furox> hello ?
[11:14] <mnoir> jessid: :)
[11:15] <mwe> benjamin-: sudo nano /etc/environment, put LANG="en_US.UTF-8" there. export LANG="en_US.UTF-8" to have it work right away in your terminal
[11:15] <jessid> mnoir good thing or bad thing?
[11:15] <grimboy> Anyone know of a good saturn emulator for linux?
[11:16] <mnoir> jessid: sorry - I was responding to an earlier line from you - nm
[11:16] <Riyonuk> mwe, I went to synaptic, installed kismet, where is it? I dont see it in my applications...
[11:16] <qoq> pucko- I can not resize or make partition on the external HD using Ubuntu livecd thou, and I have unmounted the external HD
[11:16] <light_> i'm keep getting "...ImportError: No module named glade"  while trying to upgrade to edgy using "gksu "update-manager -c"" and the apt-get alternative don't work either
[11:17] <IdleOne> jessid, on your buddy list click chat and in the window that opens type ##java and join
[11:17] <mwe> Riyonuk: did you enable universe and update?
[11:17] <linopil> can nautilus copy bootable data Cd?
[11:17] <benjamin-> mwe: thanks for help, i am goning to try ..
[11:17] <mwe> benjamin-: good luck
[11:17] <s1zzl3r> help please. I found out myself howto install fglrx, but glxinfo | grep direct says: direct rendering: No    ....... how do I let it say Yes?
[11:17] <IdleOne> jessid, better yet
[11:17] <thehumanerror> does anyone use GNOME SoundConverter?
[11:17] <furox> hello ?
[11:18] <thehumanerror> and know where it's user configuration file is?
[11:18] <IdleOne> jessid,  in terminal type sudo apt-get install xchat-gnome
[11:18] <kane77> ehm... i tend to let my computer only hybernate... its cool, because I dont have to close all the programs.. save my work.. etc. BUT sometimes happens that my dad turns on the PC and accidentaly boots into ubuntu, and is left with only one choice - to restart the PC... (which by the way loses all my data that I didnt save) is there a way around this???
[11:18] <Riyonuk> I think it was enabled by default
[11:18] <Riyonuk> as I saw things like blah (universe)
[11:18] <Riyonuk> mwe, did it not install right or something?
[11:19] <crowley1027> when was PCI E x 16 installed in computers?
[11:19] <Riyonuk> mwe, or must I restart?
[11:19] <thehumanerror> kane77: yeah, give your Dad a user account
[11:19] <florian> Hello I need some help with beagle ....
[11:19] <florian> How Could I search latex files?
[11:19] <kane77> thehumanerror, well now I did..
[11:19] <mwe> Riyonuk: you don't need to restart. you need to update though
[11:19] <kane77> thehumanerror, :D
[11:19] <Riyonuk> update?
[11:19] <thehumanerror> kane77: :)
[11:19] <kane77> thehumanerror, I thought that it
[11:19] <crowley1027> anyone: do you think a DELL With a pentium 3 processor would have a PCI express x16 slot?
[11:20] <qoq> is it not possible to resize an existing partition on an external drive?
[11:20] <IdleOne> Riyonuk,  in CLI sudo apt-get update
[11:20] <mwe> Riyonuk: yes. you need synaptic to download the new repository listings
[11:20] <Riyonuk> mwe, how?
[11:20] <trev_> does anyone know if mac games run in linux?
[11:20] <mwe> Riyonuk: I don
[11:20] <pike_> kane77: run a vmware session of xp on another display and tell him all he needs to boot into xp is alt-ctrl-f6 or whatever :)
[11:20] <mwe> Riyonuk: I don't use synaptic. in a terminal you can type sudo apt-get update
[11:20] <mwe> Riyonuk: you need to close synaptic for that to work though
[11:20] <T2> trev_: not natively i dont think
[11:21] <Riyonuk> ok
[11:21] <trev_> ok
[11:21] <trev_> thx
[11:21] <Riyonuk> Im growing to like the apt-get thing
[11:21] <Riyonuk> kinda neat
[11:21] <thehumanerror> crowley1027: Highly unlikely
[11:21] <Riyonuk> ok it updated
[11:21] <Riyonuk> now what?
[11:21] <kane77> pike_, or I guess I'd make xp default in grub.. :D
[11:21] <IdleOne> Riyonuk, in synaptic you would click reload
[11:21] <thehumanerror> trev_: Probably not
[11:21] <mwe> Riyonuk: apt-cache search kismet
[11:21] <thehumanerror> trev_: If they had a PC version you could play that perhaps
[11:21] <eyalw> hi!
[11:21] <eyalw> Question
[11:21] <gean> florian: what is beagle?
[11:21] <thehumanerror> trev_: using Wine
[11:22] <IdleOne> ask
[11:22] <lupine_84> gean: beagle is a search engine
[11:22] <lupine_84> how good it is is debatable
[11:22] <lupine_84> (for your desktop)
[11:22] <mnoir> IdleOne: it !ask
[11:22] <crowley1027> I just got a graphics card that was installed in a new(er) dell and it has 512MB memory (good for $0.00) and i can't install it until i get a new computer.
[11:22] <crowley1027> :'(
[11:22] <IdleOne> mnoir, I know
[11:22] <eyalw> I wanna start programming C++, Is Eclipse IDE any good, or is there any other great tools?
[11:22] <IdleOne> !ask | eyalw
[11:22] <ubotu> eyalw: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:22] <thehumanerror> gean: Beagle is a search tool, it searchs for text inside many different file formats, and it runs all the time so it's always up to daye
[11:22] <crowley1027> IdleOne: He did.....
[11:22] <eyalw> ubotu: ok :)
[11:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:22] <IdleOne> lol
[11:23] <Riyonuk> mwe, I did, it showed "kismet - Wireless 802.11b monitoring tool"
[11:23] <lupine_84> eyalw: editors are very much a preference thing
[11:23] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell eyalw about yourself
[11:23] <lupine_84> I prefer kdevelop; lots of people use anjuta or eclipse
[11:23] <eyalw> lupine_84: i know, but what is the mainstreame/
[11:23] <crowley1027> ubotu: tell eyalw about yourself
[11:23] <lupine_84> in terms of numbers, probably vim and/or emacs
[11:23] <qoq> does anyone know how to resize an external HD?
[11:23] <lupine_84> but that's no reason to use them :
[11:23] <pike_> eyalw: just vim is nice.
[11:23] <lupine_84> :D
[11:23] <crowley1027> !hello
[11:23] <mwe> Riyonuk: sudo apt-get install kismet to install it
[11:23] <ubotu> hello: The classic greeting, and a good example. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1-4 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 472 kB
[11:24] <thehumanerror> eyalw: I was thinking about this, C++ IDEs, but found Anjuta to be quite low quality, and Eclipse with the C / C++ module installed to be OK
[11:24] <grimboy> Anyone know of a good saturn emulator for linux?
[11:24] <crowley1027> !tell eyalw about yourself
[11:24] <mamelouk> eyalw: the eclipse c++ plug in is not as mature as the java one, but good enough to program
[11:24] <Riyonuk> mwe, "Reading state information... Done
[11:24] <Riyonuk> kismet is already the newest version.
[11:24] <Riyonuk> "
[11:24] <IdleOne> mwe,  something tells me that universe and multiverse arent enabled yet for Riyonuk
[11:24] <IdleOne> nm
[11:24] <thehumanerror> eyalw: But if you're used to Visual Studio then you'll likely be disappointed
[11:24] <mamelouk> there is just one thing I hate it's that you can do more than one executable per project with cdt
[11:24] <Riyonuk> ok now, back to my question, where is kismet? Like how do I start it?
[11:24] <mwe> IdleOne: but apt-cache found kismet
[11:24] <thehumanerror> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beagle_(software) - for those interested in Beagle
[11:24] <Slart> Hello, does anyone know how to update the list of discs/cd's/dvd's that nautilus shows (the same ones that shows up on the desktop in gnome). I've installed a new drive and it's the only one now showing up there
[11:24] <mwe> IdleOne: shouldn't it be able to install it then?
[11:25] <eyalw> lupine_84: I installed the CDT, (I use Eclipse usually 4 Java, I'm familier with it),
[11:25] <IdleOne> mwe, yeah like I( said Im off by a few seconds
[11:25] <thehumanerror> CDT, that's it
[11:25] <eyalw> but how do i compile in C++, the comiler is not built in right?
[11:25] <mamelouk> ...
[11:25] <cody> anyone here able to help me get wireless working?
[11:25] <s1zzl3r> help please. I found out myself howto install fglrx, but glxinfo | grep direct says: direct rendering: No    ....... how do I let it say Yes?
[11:25] <mwe> Riyonuk: well appearently kismet is already installed
[11:25] <lupine_85> eyalw: no; the compiler is gcc/g++
[11:25] <Riyonuk> I already installed it >_>
[11:25] <mamelouk> eyalw: no it's not built in, you can configure it in right->properties of your project
[11:25] <mwe> Riyonuk: dpkg -l|grep kismet to verify
[11:26] <lupine_85> the advantage of KDevelop - for me - is that it produces all the makefiles and stuff :D
[11:26] <eyalw> lupine_85: so i have to download it seperatly, right?
[11:26] <Riyonuk> mwe, yes, yes it is, so how do I use it? I dont see it in my programs list
[11:26] <thehumanerror> I tried to use Eclipse, but I think it doesn't like the free software Java implementation I've got or something, it crashes a lot
[11:26] <mwe> Riyonuk: I have no idea
[11:26] <thehumanerror> cody: What's your wireless situation?
[11:26] <linopil> and any commandline copy Cd solution ?
[11:26] <mwe> Riyonuk: I have never used it
[11:26] <grimboy> !saturn
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about saturn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:26] <eyalw> will sudo apt-get install gcc
[11:26] <IdleOne> Riyonuk, type kismet in cli should start it up
[11:26] <Riyonuk> mwe, ii  kismet                           2006.04.R1-1.1                Wireless 802.11b monitoring tool
[11:26] <eyalw> do the work
[11:27] <gean> luupine_84, thehumanerror: thanks, i checked the beagle box in synaptic, i'll give 'im a longer try, sounds good..
[11:27] <cody> It looks like the card gets picked up, but I cant get it working. Fresh install of edgy eft
[11:27] <crowley1027> who here has the capability of building an entire computer from scratch (and has done it more than once)
[11:27] <IdleOne> eyalw, build-essential is the name of package
[11:27] <cody> thehumanerror: It looks like the card gets picked up, but I cant get it working. Fresh install of edgy eft
[11:27] <n2diy> Slart, do the missing disks show up in system-admin-disks?
[11:27] <Riyonuk> IdleOne, FATAL:  Unable to set up pidfile /var/run//kismet_server.pid, couldn't open for writing: Permission denied[1]  + Done(1)                    ${BIN}/kismet_server --silent ${server}
[11:27] <mwe> Riyonuk: yes, it is installed. as I said I have no idea how to use it though
[11:27] <thehumanerror> linopil: dd if=/dev/hdc ibs=2048 of=acdimage.iso obs=512 && cdrecord... something read the man page
[11:27] <Slart> n2diy: there is no system, admin, disks
[11:27] <Riyonuk> well shouldnt it be the same for all programs?
[11:27] <Slart> n2diy: I'm on Ubuntu 6.10 64-bit
[11:27] <pike_> alot of people seem to like kdevelop..
[11:28] <crowley1027> thehumanerror: can you build a computer from scratch
[11:28] <Some_Person> how long does the 6.10 live cd take to load?
[11:28] <VODJ> anyone using ubuntu studio ?
[11:28] <n2diy> Slart, ok, I'm on 6.06.
[11:28] <thehumanerror> cody: right, do you have any idea what kind of wireless adaptor it is? Is it PC Card or internal?
[11:28] <jughead>  Some_Person it depends on the hardware
[11:28] <IdleOne> Some_Person, all depends
[11:28] <cody> internal broadcom bcm4306
[11:28] <Slart> n2diy: what does that disks utility do?
[11:28] <thehumanerror> crowley1027: Yeah, I could build a computer
[11:28] <thehumanerror> this would be much easier with voice
[11:29] <cody> thehumanerror internal broadcom bcm4306
[11:29] <thehumanerror> obviously with separate channels...
[11:29] <Some_Person> estimate
[11:29] <jessid> IdleOne I am really lost in that xgnome-chat....jejejeje to join to java channel, is there any password?
[11:29] <n2diy> Slart it list the disks present on the system, there make, model, etc...
[11:29] <crowley1027> thehumanerror:  do you have AIM, MSN, Yahoo?
[11:29] <factboy818181> does anyone have any idea why my wireless mouse will not work?
[11:29] <VODJ> HUMAN:  this is old school,  how it used to be
[11:29] <thehumanerror> cody: I'm going to msg you
[11:29] <Slart> n2diy: perhaps integrated in the devices-thingy?
[11:29] <thehumanerror> VODJ: Yeah, but it's a slow way of giving free technical support
[11:29] <eyalw> after i downloaded the build packege?
[11:29] <IdleOne> jessid, just type /join ##java
[11:29] <thehumanerror> cody: I use IRC :)
[11:30] <VODJ> HUMAN:  FREE is the operative word
[11:30] <n2diy> Slart, I don't know, I guess you'll have to fish and around, and hope you catch something?
[11:30] <thehumanerror> cody: and all the other stuff, but let's just use IRC for now
[11:30] <lnostdal> 311
[11:30] <cody> thehumanerror ok
[11:30] <Riyonuk> ok since I cant seem to be getting kismet to work, how do I uninstall it>
[11:30] <Some_Person> on an eMachines T3120 with 640mb ram, how long would the live cd take to load?
[11:30] <jessid> IdleOnec no man, nothing happens... I think this hates me, jejeje
[11:30] <Slart> n2diy: I'll go hunting.. I'll report back if something eats me =)
[11:30] <lnostdal> (ups; disregard that)
[11:30] <kane77> what is the advantage of  ext3 over ext2 (reiser)?? which do you recommend?
[11:30] <thehumanerror> VODJ: There are free (and FREE) methods of talking to people using the Internet.
[11:30] <mwe> kane77: don't use ext2. it doesn't use a journal
[11:30] <jughead> Some_Person: 5 minutes maybe?  probably less
[11:30] <n2diy> Slart, roger that GL
[11:30] <IdleOne> jessid,  have you connected xchat to freenode yet?
[11:31] <Some_Person> ok, i'll try again
[11:31] <kane77> mwe, what is a journal?
[11:31] <VODJ> HUMAN:  again,  I am old school,  do not mind typing,  to each their own
[11:31] <mwe> kane77: reiser3 is known to fail misarably from time to time
[11:31] <pike_> kane77: i like ext3 since its journaled and xfs as my /tmp directory..
[11:31] <braden__> hi there, Im totally new to kubuntu. My brother is logged in on another session, and I cant access external drives that have been mounted. it tells me it cannot enter the directory /media/sdb3.any ideas on how i can copy some stuff of of this drive?
[11:31] <mwe> kane77: a log of changes that can be reverted in case of a power failure for example
[11:32] <thehumanerror> VODJ: I don't mind typing either, but sometimes it's easier to explain things using your voice
[11:32] <[^Twen^] > I didn't use the server-CD when installing Ubuntu. Is there any download for LAMP so I can install Apache, PHP and MySQL at the same time?
[11:32] <mwe> kane77: in other words it keeps your file system a lot more robust and stable
[11:32] <kane77> mwe, thanx.. I think I convert my partition to ext3...
[11:32] <thehumanerror> VODJ: Voice has a higher emotive bandwidth :)
[11:32] <factboy818181> help on wireless mouse?
[11:32] <thehumanerror> cody: I sent you a message, you still about?
[11:32] <IdleOne> !apache
[11:32] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[11:32] <VODJ> BRADEN:  have you tried just surfing through the network to find an open windows share?    You have enable the share in windows first to get it to read right.
[11:32] <jessid> IdleOne ops! eee..mmmmm.... now I can see it....thanks!
[11:33] <thehumanerror> hang on a minute, can you even send messages to people or do you have to register now to do that?
[11:33] <Cosmonaut3030> What do I do with a 'bin' file?
[11:33] <cody> thehumanerror: ya, but I don't really use irc that much and I dont see your message
[11:33] <IdleOne> thehumanerror, need to register
[11:33] <jughead> thehumanerror: you have to register
[11:33] <Seveas> Cosmonaut3030, throw it in the bin?
[11:33] <thehumanerror> throw rubbish in it
[11:33] <Cosmonaut3030> ...
[11:33] <VODJ> BRADEN:  you may have to hit refresh a few times to get it to read the windows share,   sometimes but it works.
[11:33] <braden__> VODJ: Its a FAT32 external hard drive...
[11:33] <thehumanerror> Seveas: Mine was funnier, but only just
[11:33] <braden__> (USB)
[11:33] <Seveas> thehumanerror, indeed
[11:33] <mwe> kane77: good choice. unless you have very special demands, ext3 is probably the best
[11:33] <VODJ> BRADEN:  that should easily be read
[11:33] <Cosmonaut3030> I meant a .package file.
[11:33] <thehumanerror> cody: OK, we'll do it here, let me just look up the support for your wireless adaptor on the web
[11:34] <kane77> mwe, :D no special demands...
[11:34] <Cosmonaut3030> What do I do with it?
[11:34] <CrazytalesAway> Cosmonaut3030: you execute it, should be chmod a+x
[11:34] <Seveas> Cosmonaut3030, that you should really throw in the bin
[11:34] <braden__> VODJ: My brother's login session can mount it perfectly and read it. mine wont.
[11:34] <Seveas> .package files are evil
[11:34] <CrazytalesAway> Oops, late for .bin
[11:34] <Cosmonaut3030> Qhy?
[11:34] <Seveas> find a .deb or .tar.gz
[11:34] <VODJ> Braden:  are you using VMWARE?
[11:34] <thehumanerror> crowley1027: Are you still about? (I'm multiplexing...)
[11:34] <Cosmonaut3030> There's a reason for this.
[11:34] <crowley1027> thehumanerror: I'm here, i'm www.walmart.com ing
[11:34] <Cosmonaut3030> chmod a+x? Is that a command?
[11:34] <crowley1027> is a Celeron D a good processor?
[11:34] <kane77> mwe, plus I want no hassle... (i heard conversion to/from ext2/3 is hassle free :D)
[11:34] <Riyonuk> how do I uninstall kismet?
[11:34] <CrazytalesAway> crowley - no.
[11:35] <Seveas> Cosmonaut3030, there is no reason to use .package files
[11:35] <crowley1027> why not
[11:35] <IdleOne> Riyonuk, sudo apt-get remove kismet
[11:35] <CrazytalesAway> not much L2 cachr
[11:35] <Cosmonaut3030> Seveas: Why not?
[11:35] <CrazytalesAway> cache*
[11:35] <braden__> VODJ: Sorry, can you repeat your last line?
[11:35] <Riyonuk> thank you
[11:35] <CrazytalesAway> crowley1027: what motherboard?
[11:35] <btrento> I just got aiglx installed on my computer and everything is working fine except  that when ever i try to play a movie in mplayer the screen is blue.  any help would be appreciated
[11:35] <Seveas> Cosmonaut3030, because there are alternatives that don't suck donkey balls
[11:35] <Seveas> excusez le mot
[11:35] <mwe> kane77: you need to convert from a different file system?
[11:35] <Cosmonaut3030> Ok... I'll look for an ubuntu .deb
[11:35] <qoq> !gparted
[11:35] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[11:35] <crowley1027> CrazytalesAway: can you do me a small favor?
[11:35] <Seveas> Cosmonaut3030, which application?
[11:35] <CrazytalesAway> crowley1027: what?
[11:35] <IdleOne> lol Seveas you speak french also
[11:36] <Seveas> IdleOne, un peu, but not in here usually
[11:36] <crowley1027> CrazytalesAway: can you do a simple contrast of two computers?  (pros and cons of each)
[11:36] <pm2> Is there a way to make my iPod automount in the latest version of Kubuntu?
[11:36] <Seveas> pm2, plug it in
[11:36] <CrazytalesAway> crowley1027: Yes, /query me
[11:36] <thehumanerror> OK, it looks like crowley1027 is shopping for a computer, I'll just help cody
[11:36] <CrazytalesAway> I need to go
[11:36] <pm2> Seveas, I did that
[11:36] <Cosmonaut3030> Seveas: Amsn 0.96. Only 0.95 is in the repositories.
[11:36] <jessid_> IdleOne, man, at last I am here
[11:37] <justin_> Can I after a Ubuntu install - add another physical disk to the Grub boot menu? - So let's say I can boot from another hard disk which has another OS on it since my Ubuntu HDD is 100% Ubuntu?
[11:37] <Seveas> !info amsn feisty
[11:37] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95+dfsg2-0.1 (feisty), package size 2265 kB, installed size 7708 kB
[11:37] <lupine_85> justin_: yes
[11:37] <IdleOne> jessid_,  now type /join ##java
[11:37] <lupine_85> just edit /boot/grub/menu.lst appropriately
[11:37] <justin_> lupine_85, Excellent would you have a link to some d
[11:37] <justin_> docs*
[11:37] <kane77> mwe, no... well... I'm just looking at a guide how to convert ext2 to ext3, but... err.. I'll take a deeper look... :)
[11:37] <IdleOne> jessid_,  also close gaim and never use it to chat on irc again :)
[11:37] <crowley1027> 	Extremely efficient processor with Enhanced Virus Protection      <---------- A processor that offers virus protection?
[11:37] <braden__> VODJ: Sorry, can you please repeat your last line?
[11:38] <Cosmonaut3030> Seveas: Amsn 0.96. Only 0.95 is in the repositories.
[11:38] <jessid_> IdleOne jajaja why is that?
[11:38] <Cosmonaut3030> Sorry didn't mean to sayt that
[11:38] <mwe> kane77: I haven't done it myself, but adding a journal should be easy I think
[11:38] <lupine_85> justin_: there are examples in the file itself, or you can try the manpage
[11:38] <IdleOne> jessid_,  like Seveas  said in french earlier it sucks donkey balls
[11:38] <VODJ> Just wondering if you installed Linux to the hard drive (natural)  or where using a VMWARE emulator?
[11:38] <braden__> VODJ: Its on the hard drive
[11:38] <justin_> lupine_85, O,1 would be the second hardrive?
[11:38] <justin_> Or 2,0
[11:38] <kane77> mwe, i think it is...
[11:38] <Riyonuk> You know how in windows, if you want more info you type "command /?", how does that work in ubuntu?
[11:38] <braden__> i just dont see why it wont mount
[11:38] <braden__> for me
[11:39] <lupine_85> justin_: hda1 would be hd(0,0); hdb1 would be hd(1,0)
[11:39] <VODJ> you should be able to read a fat32 windows drive Braden
[11:39] <morto> why
[11:39] <justin_> Riyonuk, man program ---- or usually program -help or -h or --help
[11:39] <lupine_85> had2 would, of course, be (hd0,1)
[11:39] <mwe> kane77: tune2fs IIRC
[11:39] <lupine_85> erm, my typing is dead today
[11:39] <justin_> lupine_85, :) I see thanks
[11:39] <lupine_85> hd needs to be inside the brackets
[11:39] <Riyonuk> well mostly intrested in the command for apt-get
[11:39] <lynucs> guys, you all are using ESD?? is there no other way to get sounds from multiple applications?
[11:39] <jessid_> IdleOne jajajaja ok ok...
[11:39] <morto> why
[11:39] <braden__> VODJ: I know- my brothers session does fine. When I try to mount or access the drive in konqueror it says it can't enter the directory.
[11:39] <braden__> are some permissions messed up?
[11:39] <lupine_85> lynucs: I'm just using ALSA. works fine.
[11:40] <Seveas> Cosmonaut3030, there is no .deb for that yet, you may have to wait a bit
[11:40] <VODJ> Look and see if you have SAMBA set up Braden
[11:40] <justin_> lupine_85, Yeah, I was just confused by the numbers I got the rest -- alright thanks lupine_85  :)
[11:40] <kane77> mwe, oh crap.. I cant unmount my partition... (I could, but I want to keep my uptime :D)
[11:40] <thehumanerror> cody: It looks like you'll have to use ndiswrapper to support that card, I'm just looking up a document that might help
[11:40] <cody> thehumanerror: thanks
[11:40] <braden__> VODJ: But another session does it fine.
[11:40] <thehumanerror> cody: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[11:40] <VODJ> braden:  maybe a reboot
[11:40] <braden__> okay
[11:40] <morto> braden sucks
[11:40] <mwe> kane77: heh
[11:40] <Paddy_EIRE> does anyone know why the "sessions > Startup apps" does not save an entry?
[11:40] <VODJ> Braden:  not always does things work
[11:41] <Seveas> braden__, relax, he's gone
[11:41] <thehumanerror> cody: should help, it even explains for a Broadcom chip, although it's not quite the same one
[11:41] <VODJ> Braden:  playing with sound I can have issues from one session to another.
[11:41] <braden__> haha its okay
[11:41] <braden__> ill try a reboot
[11:41] <Cosmonaut3030> Seveas: Doesn't matter, found them
[11:41] <braden__> thanks everyone
[11:41] <cody> thehumanerror: thanks, I'll take a look at that and see what I can do
[11:41] <thehumanerror> cody: Hold that thought
[11:42] <thehumanerror> cody: According to the wiki entry there's an open source bcm43xx module
[11:42] <thehumanerror> cody: Can you just sudo lsmod please
[11:42] <thehumanerror> cody: and tell me if the module called bcm43xx is loaded
[11:43] <Cosmonaut3030> Seveas: Thanks for the help though :d
[11:43] <Paddy_EIRE> does anyone know why the "sessions > Startup apps" does not save an entry??? e.g. check-gmail, beryl-manager
[11:43] <alex-weej> system tools keep telling me "You are not allowed to access the system configuration." - how do i fix this?
[11:44] <pm2> Is there a way to make my iPod automount in the latest version of Kubuntu?  I installed the ipodslave package, but it still won't automount.
[11:44] <cody> thehumanerror: i've got bcm43xx in that list
[11:44] <light_> i'm keep getting "...ImportError: No module named glade"  while trying to upgrade dapper to edgy using "gksu "update-manager -c"" and the apt-get alternative doesn't work either (doesn't find any updates)
[11:44] <linopil> I knew about krusader commander in kDE
[11:44] <linopil> what commander in gnome?
[11:45] <thehumanerror> cody: you still here?
[11:45] <magicbronson> trying to get wireless working. anyone know why i'm not getting dhcp offers?
[11:45] <linopil> gnome baker taking too much time
[11:45] <cody> thehumanerror: yes
[11:46] <tophat2445> Hi
[11:46] <thehumanerror> cody: OK well I'm going to have to to soon, so if I do, this site is where you should start really...
[11:46] <cody> thehumanerror: I've got bcm43xx in that list
[11:46] <thehumanerror> cody: oh frak
[11:46] <thehumanerror> cody: yeah, I got that
[11:47] <thehumanerror> cody: I'm saying oh frak because that site is a Berlios site, and Berlios is down
[11:47] <kRush> can someone give me a link to an explanation on users and groups under linux, all i get on google is links to linux user groups =/
[11:47] <thehumanerror> cody: I know that because I'm trying to get someone to help me out with GNOME SoundConverter and I was going to go to it's home site to find help!
[11:47] <thehumanerror> cody: Using Google cache...
[11:47] <Some_Person> i'm having trouble booting the live cd
[11:47] <julian__> installed beryl and when i use command beryl-manager i get booted to login. any help?
[11:48] <tophat2445> I got "The Official Ubuntu Book" as a gift...I just want to thank the Community!
[11:48] <Some_Person> i put it in my external drive and reboot
[11:48] <Riyonuk> What weere those window managers that use low rescources? Fluxbox and what? And are any with ubuntu, you know, in the Add/Remove thing
[11:48] <Some_Person> and i select the first option
[11:48] <Some_Person> i see the ubuntu logo and the progress bar
[11:49] <Some_Person> then a blank screen with a blinking underscore
[11:49] <jisatsu> how can I list the libraries and versions loaded by a particular program?
[11:49] <Some_Person> after 10 minutes-still blank screen
[11:49] <anto> Guys i need some helping compling my server
[11:49] <FlimFlamMan> hi.how do i install flash 9 on edgy?
[11:49] <mwe> compling?
[11:50] <Some_Person> what should i do now?
[11:50] <thehumanerror> cody: Does the device appear in the HAL? Check System > Administration > Device Manager
[11:50] <thehumanerror> FlimFlamMan: It's probably in the Ubuntu Wiki, did you check there? There might even be a whole page on it.
[11:50] <anto> FlimflamMan
[11:50] <cody> thehumanerror: it does
[11:50] <thehumanerror> cody: right
[11:50] <thehumanerror> cody: what does sudo ifconfig say?
[11:50] <Some_Person> hello?
[11:51] <FlimFlamMan>   thehumanerror - i'll check
[11:51] <linopil> gnomebaker taking toomuch time
[11:51] <anto> FlimflamMan: what you should do is open a file browser and go /home/__YOUR USER__/.mozzila/pluggins/ and replace the libflashplayer.so
[11:51] <anto> bash: ./configure: /bin/sh^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[11:51] <Some_Person> HELLO?
[11:51] <anto> anyone got any idea why?
[11:51] <linopil> can I nice gnomebaker?
[11:51] <anto> yes hello to you too
[11:51] <thehumanerror> Some_Person: Do you have a BIOS that can boot off external CD-ROM drives?
[11:51] <Paddy_EIRE> linopil: whats up with baker?
[11:52] <Some_Person> obviously, since i see the cd menu
[11:52] <mwe> anto: what is giving you that?
[11:52] <cody> thehumanerror: I have eth0 (wired) and lo
[11:52] <linopil> very slow
[11:52] <Some_Person> and the ubuntu logo
[11:52] <thehumanerror> Some_Person: Sorry, I couldn't read it all!
[11:52] <linopil> makes you wanna go back to nero windows
[11:52] <anto> mwe: well i'm trying to compile my Open tibia server to linux.
[11:52] <mwe> anto: it looks like it's a file using windows newlines
[11:52] <Paddy_EIRE> linopil: is all your burning software like this or just baker
[11:52] <wikijeff> Is there a package for google earth on ubuntu??
[11:52] <Some_Person> my internal drive has a problem with reading and writing cd-r's, so i cant try that
[11:52] <Paddy_EIRE> wikijeff: yep
[11:53] <anto> mwe: could you explain what a windows newline looks like and what i should replace it with=
[11:53] <thehumanerror> Some_Person: Have you tried the safe mode option, that might work, or there's an Alternative boot CD apparently, maybe that'd work
[11:53] <linopil> new install started with gnomebaker Paddy_EIRE
[11:53] <wikijeff> Paddy_EIRE: I can't find it in synaptic
[11:53] <Some_Person> safe mode option?
[11:53] <thehumanerror> cody: I'm still with you, just thinking
[11:53] <danielmccauley> Does Ubuntu still suport PPC architecture?
[11:53] <apokryphos> danielmccauley: yes
[11:53] <anto> mwe: could you explain what a windows newline looks like and what i should replace it with=
[11:53] <thehumanerror> Some_Person: At the first menu when the CD boots, while it's counting down
[11:53] <ZmasteR> hey guys my friend needs some more ppl to fill his questionnaire in for uni (ive not even got round to writting mine yet lol) if u could take 30secs just to fill it in,,,would be cool.....im gonna try and finish writing mine tonight if i can lol --->>  http://oli.ibox-security.net
[11:53] <apokryphos> !msg | danielmccauley
[11:53] <ubotu> danielmccauley: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[11:54] <crowley1027> CrazytalesAway: are you still here?
[11:54] <jughead>  /time
[11:54] <mwe> anto: install tofrodo to convert it to unix newlines
[11:54] <crowley1027> !time
[11:54] <thehumanerror> anto: Google for the difference between Unix and Windows text files, that will explain all you need to know
[11:54] <ubotu> time: The GNU time program for measuring cpu resource usage. In component main, is standard. Version 1.7-21 (edgy), package size 31 kB, installed size 144 kB
[11:54] <cody> thehumanerror: no problem
[11:54] <wikijeff> Paddy_EIRE: what's the package name?
[11:54] <thehumanerror> anto: Or use that tool, yeah
[11:54] <linopil> it i the ubuntu alternate  CD read now more than 50 min 47 left
[11:54] <FlimFlamMan> do i need anything else installed to get flash9 to work, aside from the beta libflashplayer.so ?
[11:54] <danielmccauley> Does anyone use Ubuntu on their Powerbook?
[11:54] <mwe> anto: tofrodos that is
[11:54] <anto> anto@anto-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install tofrodo
[11:54] <anto>  E: Couldn't find package tofrodo
[11:54] <crowley1027> anyone:   Who here can give me a good contrast between two computers?
[11:54] <Some_Person> ok, i'll try safe mode
[11:54] <mwe> anto: tofrodos that is
[11:54] <apokryphos> !anyone
[11:54] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:55] <mwe> anto: no tofrodo
[11:55] <mwe> !info tofrodos
[11:55] <ubotu> tofrodos: Converts DOS <-> Unix text files, alias tofromdos. In component main, is optional. Version 1.7.6-2 (edgy), package size 16 kB, installed size 68 kB
[11:55] <centosian> member:crowley1027: yeah, what 2 computers
[11:55] <anto> mwe: aah okej :P
[11:55] <Paddy_EIRE> wikijeff: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy#How_to_install_Google_Earth
[11:55] <thehumanerror> danielmccauley: Yeah, it does, I think. Check the main page, I don't see why they'd have dropped PPC just yet
[11:55] <mwe> anto: then use dos2unix foo.c
[11:55] <wikijeff> Paddy_EIRE: thanks
[11:55] <anto> okej :D
[11:55] <mwe> anto: using the correct file name of cours
[11:55] <thehumanerror> ubuto: It's because we're all so polite
[11:55] <mwe> e
[11:55] <Paddy_EIRE> np :)
[11:55] <crowley1027> centosian: i queried you
[11:56] <danielmccauley> I had a heck of a time configuring Debian with my Powerbook, just wondering if its any easier with Ubuntu?
[11:56] <Paddy_EIRE> wikijeff: p.s. do u have wine installed
[11:56] <centosian> member:crowley1027: WTF?
[11:56] <anto> MEW: thanks man but now i'm generating another error, ill try to fix it my self else ill ask for more help.
[11:56] <Riyonuk> where would I install fluxbox from?
[11:56] <thehumanerror> cody: I'm afraid I don't actually know what to do next
[11:56] <crowley1027> centosian: what
[11:57] <thehumanerror> cody: Sorry
[11:57] <mwe> anto: yeah
[11:57] <centosian> member:crowley1027: that's what I said
[11:57] <Paddy_EIRE> Riyonuk: just sudo aptitude install fluxbox
[11:57] <wikijeff> Paddy_EIRE: yeah, do I need it for this? I was hoping for a version native to linux
[11:57] <crowley1027> centosian: why did you say "WTF?"
[11:57] <cody> thehumanerror: thats ok. I'll keep searching
[11:57] <centosian> google wtf
[11:57] <Paddy_EIRE> wikijeff: oh your right it is oops
[11:57] <Paddy_EIRE> wikijeff: that link will get the linux native
[11:58] <crowley1027> centosian: i know what WTF means
[11:58] <crowley1027> centosian: why did you say it
[11:58] <centosian> I was responding I thought. Who's on first?
[11:58] <simmerz> are the smartmontools on the installer cd and available for use without installing to hd??
[11:58] <wikijeff> Paddy_EIRE: ok, great
[11:58] <crowley1027> centosian: can you contrast those two desktops for me?
[11:58] <crowley1027> centosian: (pros and cons of each)
[11:59] <IdleOne> Riyonuk, you can install everything from either the cli or from synaptic
[11:59] <centosian> WHICH TWO?
[11:59] <lynucs> !alsa
[11:59] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[11:59] <crowley1027> centosian:  http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5238475  and   http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5280738
[11:59] <crowley1027> i'm leaning towards the AMD
[11:59] <linopil> gnomebaker failed to copy alternateCD . what a shame
[11:59] <centosian> they both suck dork
[11:59] <Riyonuk> yeah I just found it
[11:59] <Riyonuk> but
[11:59] <Riyonuk> how do you know it even exists
[11:59] <Riyonuk> -_-
[11:59] <Riyonuk> there no like sudo apt-get list all programs?
[11:59] <centosian> oh for ubuntu?
[11:59] <Riyonuk> umm
[12:00] <light_> !edjy
[12:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about edjy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:00] <Riyonuk> I installed fluxbox
[12:00] <Riyonuk> nothing happened
[12:00] <light_> !edgy
[12:00] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[12:00] <crowley1027> centosian: no, thats my budget.  can you contrast them for me or not.
[12:00] <lynucs> !dmix
[12:00] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[12:00] <compengi> !paste
[12:00] <Riyonuk> IdleOne, I installed fluxbox
[12:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:00] <Riyonuk> IdleOne, nothing happned
[12:00] <crowley1027> !who | compengi
[12:00] <ubotu> compengi: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say, or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[12:00] <IdleOne> Riyonuk, now you need to log back in and click on session and choose fluxbox
[12:00] <centosian> yeah the amd will be a little faster
[12:00] <Riyonuk> IdleOne, evertime?