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CrazytalesAwaylast five hours only activity is joins/parts02:59
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lguerrahi all04:20
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cstextilesMy Edubuntu 6.06  Installtion stops after "Setting up ltsp-server(0.87)" message10:54
cstextilesA blank screen comes and then nothing happens even when i m in the F4 windows10:54
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juliuxmornin10:58
juliuxg10:58
cstextilesMy Edubuntu 6.06  Installtion stops after "Setting up ltsp-server(0.87)" message10:59
cstextilesA blank screen comes and then nothing happens even when i m in the F4 windows10:59
juliuxcstextiles, what is the last thing you can read at f4 window?11:03
cstextilesSetting up ltsp-server(0.87)11:04
cstextilesBut after some time the screen goes blank11:04
cstextilesand remains blank indefinitely11:04
juliuxhow long you wait?11:04
cstextilesfor half an hour11:04
cstextilesI was in the F4 mode and then the screen got blank11:05
cstextilesThen I tried F1 or other function keys but nothing happened11:05
juliuxhm then i have no idea what it could be11:05
cstextilesBefore that this message comes "Warning: fake start-stop daemon called doing nothing"11:06
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bddebianHeya04:12
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jorihello anybody here know if a ltsp server can use the local sound card of the client ?04:28
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jorihello anybody here know if a ltsp server can use the local sound card of the client ?05:30
juliuxjori, it depends on the soundcard, but general you can use the sound card from the client05:31
jorijuliux: whats the magicline in the config i can use esd over the network but that just won't do the job for firefox flashplayer05:32
juliuxjori, in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf add the option SOUND=True05:32
jorialready there it only works for esd not for dsp sound05:33
juliuxjori, see http://www.edubuntu.org/ThinClientConfig05:33
juliuxi think there is only esd support and now dsp support05:33
juliuxbut you can use esd on your thinclient05:33
jorijuliux: how the hell do i tell firefox and flashplayer inside of firefox to talk over esd sins if i just say use esd they try to start esd locally05:35
juliuxjori, test to set it in the gnome audio settings under system->settings->audio05:35
jorijuliux: i'm runnen xfce4 :P but esd works tested in xmms05:36
juliuxtry to start firefox from a terminal with esddsp firefox05:38
jorino feedback from the console ( firefox sound is now setup to auto it was setup to none ) and no sound05:39
jorido i need to set it to dsp ?05:39
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juliuxyou can try it05:41
P3L|C4N0greetings05:41
jorihmmm noting already try -m but stil nu result05:41
juliuxi never used sound on the thinclient, because i have an unsupportet audio chip in my thinclients05:41
jorijuliux: most of my thin clients are use for interneting but i'm getting complanes about flashplayer audio05:42
joristrange it is that firefox is like the only app that try's and START esd :S al othere apps just take the remote esd connect like its the default 105:44
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christopherHello, question on minimum spec for edubuntu?05:54
christopherhow much ram is needed?05:54
stgraber256MB05:55
juliuxchristopher, 32mb for a client, server 256MB + 128MB for every thinclient05:56
joristgraber: serieusly damit edubuntu is a memory eater :p05:56
christopherok, for a stand alone with X 64mb won't be much use?05:56
jorichristopher: my advies woud be try xubuntu05:57
juliuxchristopher, not with gnome with xfce perhaps05:57
jorijuliux: lol :P05:57
christopherno, we *need* the education stuff to work out of the box.05:57
juliuxchristopher, you can use the apps also with xfce05:58
christopherdoes edubuntu have xfce?05:58
juliuxyou can install it05:58
juliuxbut the default is gnome05:58
christopherok, thats no use really.05:59
jorijuliux: it woud probley be easy to install xubuntu and then de edu stuff05:59
juliuxjori, that is also possible05:59
christopherwe're looking at sending the disks to Schools in Africa, i.e. no internet.05:59
christopherit needs to work out the box.05:59
jorichristopher: pre make you're own xedubuntu then ;)06:00
Rondomisn't there some spec for xedubuntu for feisty?06:00
joriRondom: if i say pre make you're own it means there is none offical release ;)06:01
Rondomjori: I know06:01
jorichristopher: you coud include the right .debs en edit the installer to install them :)06:01
christopheri know i *could* but is that realistic?06:01
joriwhy not ? if you really need to edu stuff i think its you're change unless samebody else know a othere way around it06:02
christopherany ideas as to where to point me as for a guide to do such a thing?06:03
Rondomjori: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Xedubuntu?highlight=%28Xedubuntu%2906:04
Rondom^ i think this was what I was remembering06:04
joriRondom: i ownstyle just made the name op because its a mix of edubbuntu and xubuntu :P06:05
christopherhm, where can i find the *.deb files?06:05
Rondomjori: I know06:05
joriedubuntu disk en xubuntu disk probley06:05
joribtw don't you give them pc's ? only a os ?06:05
christopheryeh we give them pc's, but they are all donated.06:05
christopheri.e. 64mb of ram is impressive06:06
jorichristopher: pre install them you're self then :S06:06
christopherstill need the deb files...06:06
jorijust look on the disks06:07
christopheri only have an edubuntu disk06:07
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jorihehehe you're faster then me this time :P06:08
christopher:P06:09
christopherso then if i extract the xfce *.deb files from that, put them on a cd then install them onto the edubuntu install that won't run due to lack of ram ?06:10
christopherwill magic happen?06:10
jorihehehe you need the install disk that 1 wil run under you're normal ram etleast xfce4 i did't do mutch whit edubuntu06:11
jorii'm only here because i'm using xfce4 ltsp06:12
jorixubuntu ltsp *06:12
christopherso your saying install xubu 1st then install the educational stuff from edub cd?06:12
jorijeb :)06:13
jorithat woud be the way i woud do it06:13
christopherhmm, this isn't looking as easy as I was selling it to be06:14
jorihehehe never sell the dear before you shoot it ;)06:15
christopherhttp://streetlites.org/ , we've been screwed over by M$ when it comes to licences so i've been pushing to get Linux out there instead, finally they start to listen then oops.06:15
christopherI'll try selling them the idea of a custom cd for us...06:15
christophermight work...06:16
joripersoonal i'm agianst project like that but hey thats a hole othere story...06:16
christopherhmm, can swap make up for ram ?06:17
joriyes and no06:17
jorianybody here know a simple way of explaning the hole swap story :P06:18
christopherwhen it comes to gnome long enough to install xfce?06:18
joriswap is alwase slower then ram so it maby run but then it wil run like crap06:19
christopherhmmm06:21
christopherinstalling Edubuntu now...06:21
christophersee how badly it falls over.06:21
joriits installing thats a +06:21
christopherunder "low memory" mode./06:22
joriwtf is low memory mode :P06:22
christopheri don't know, seen as it's a text based installer I don't see there is much to disable...06:22
jorijust see what happens w8 a sec stopid fuckers in my cs server agian need to play admin agian06:23
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christopherok, got xubuntu cd06:36
christopheriso06:36
Rondomjori: the spec (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/edubuntu-xfce-desktop) was deferred :-(06:36
christopherwould I just need the deb's relating to xfce4 ?06:42
christopheri.e. pool/main/x/xfce4*06:49
christopherk3b07:00
christopherk3b07:00
christopherargh07:00
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yodazhi all08:19
yodazI can get ltsp to work with dapper, ldm does not log on, it flashes the screen and then return to log in prompt, anybody have an idea ?08:19
yodazI have done ltsp-update-sshkeys without success08:20
yodazI have tried with xdmcp, but I have no keyboard when I want to type the login/pass08:20
yodazI don't know what's wrong :(08:20
yodazis there a way to have some debug log or so with ltsp ?08:37
juliuxyodaz, do you have sabayon installed?08:39
juliuxyodaz, did you tested to set the x-color-depth to 16 ?08:39
yodazjuliux: sabayon is not installed08:41
yodazI try to force to 16 bit, with lts.conf, but same stuff08:42
yodazI have set this : X_COLOR_DEPTH     = 1608:43
juliuxok08:43
yodazthe distrib is ubuntu dapper, with normal repository (dapper-updates, backports, security, and universe/multiverse)08:44
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yodazjuliux: do you know if there's a way to have a logfile of errors that could happens on ltsp client ?09:01
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yodazjuliux: I have succeed with xdmcp, and the option SCREEN_O7 = startx10:30
cbx33hi anyone ;)10:46
yodazhi cbx3310:48
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achandraHello is there a PPC version of edubuntu that allows you to either install or run thin client for G4s over the network??11:58
Burgworkachandra: yes11:59
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achandraBurghwork: where can I find the "how to" to do the afore mentioned question12:00
achandraBurgwork: I have sucessfully converted a few G4s in the lab using cdroms, but the tedium of it.....id much rather do a network install.12:00
Burgworkdo you want thin clients or fat clients?12:01
achandraBurgwork: well...considering the school cant spend money on a dual xeon to support all clients..itll have to be fat for now.12:01
Burgworkright12:01
achandraBurgwork: so lets assume a network install, with TFTP, DHCP .12:02
achandraover NFS or HTTP.12:02
Burgworkyou could also use kickstart12:02
achandracentos...right?12:02
Burgworkkickstart works in ubuntu12:03
achandrayou just answered my question..12:03
Burgworkhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/KickstartCompatibility12:03
achandraahhh12:03
achandraokay12:03
achandraso you can adapt a response file to install12:03
achandraand on MAC what is the "majic" key to do the network install?12:04
achandrai know "c" is for cdrom and12:04
achandranetwork??12:04
achandra(sorry a little lazy)....i can google that...but you can save mne some grief12:04

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