[02:59] <CrazytalesAway> last five hours only activity is joins/parts
[04:20] <lguerra> hi all
[10:54] <cstextiles> My Edubuntu 6.06  Installtion stops after "Setting up ltsp-server(0.87)" message
[10:54] <cstextiles> A blank screen comes and then nothing happens even when i m in the F4 windows
[10:58] <juliux> mornin
[10:58] <juliux> g
[10:59] <cstextiles> My Edubuntu 6.06  Installtion stops after "Setting up ltsp-server(0.87)" message
[10:59] <cstextiles> A blank screen comes and then nothing happens even when i m in the F4 windows
[11:03] <juliux> cstextiles, what is the last thing you can read at f4 window?
[11:04] <cstextiles> Setting up ltsp-server(0.87)
[11:04] <cstextiles> But after some time the screen goes blank
[11:04] <cstextiles> and remains blank indefinitely
[11:04] <juliux> how long you wait?
[11:04] <cstextiles> for half an hour
[11:05] <cstextiles> I was in the F4 mode and then the screen got blank
[11:05] <cstextiles> Then I tried F1 or other function keys but nothing happened
[11:05] <juliux> hm then i have no idea what it could be
[11:06] <cstextiles> Before that this message comes "Warning: fake start-stop daemon called doing nothing"
[04:12] <bddebian> Heya
[04:28] <jori> hello anybody here know if a ltsp server can use the local sound card of the client ?
[05:30] <jori> hello anybody here know if a ltsp server can use the local sound card of the client ?
[05:31] <juliux> jori, it depends on the soundcard, but general you can use the sound card from the client
[05:32] <jori> juliux: whats the magicline in the config i can use esd over the network but that just won't do the job for firefox flashplayer
[05:32] <juliux> jori, in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf add the option SOUND=True
[05:33] <jori> already there it only works for esd not for dsp sound
[05:33] <juliux> jori, see http://www.edubuntu.org/ThinClientConfig
[05:33] <juliux> i think there is only esd support and now dsp support
[05:33] <juliux> but you can use esd on your thinclient
[05:35] <jori> juliux: how the hell do i tell firefox and flashplayer inside of firefox to talk over esd sins if i just say use esd they try to start esd locally
[05:35] <juliux> jori, test to set it in the gnome audio settings under system->settings->audio
[05:36] <jori> juliux: i'm runnen xfce4 :P but esd works tested in xmms
[05:38] <juliux> try to start firefox from a terminal with esddsp firefox
[05:39] <jori> no feedback from the console ( firefox sound is now setup to auto it was setup to none ) and no sound
[05:39] <jori> do i need to set it to dsp ?
[05:41] <juliux> you can try it
[05:41] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[05:41] <jori> hmmm noting already try -m but stil nu result
[05:41] <juliux> i never used sound on the thinclient, because i have an unsupportet audio chip in my thinclients
[05:42] <jori> juliux: most of my thin clients are use for interneting but i'm getting complanes about flashplayer audio
[05:44] <jori> strange it is that firefox is like the only app that try's and START esd :S al othere apps just take the remote esd connect like its the default 1
[05:54] <christopher> Hello, question on minimum spec for edubuntu?
[05:54] <christopher> how much ram is needed?
[05:55] <stgraber> 256MB
[05:56] <juliux> christopher, 32mb for a client, server 256MB + 128MB for every thinclient
[05:56] <jori> stgraber: serieusly damit edubuntu is a memory eater :p
[05:56] <christopher> ok, for a stand alone with X 64mb won't be much use?
[05:57] <jori> christopher: my advies woud be try xubuntu
[05:57] <juliux> christopher, not with gnome with xfce perhaps
[05:57] <jori> juliux: lol :P
[05:57] <christopher> no, we *need* the education stuff to work out of the box.
[05:58] <juliux> christopher, you can use the apps also with xfce
[05:58] <christopher> does edubuntu have xfce?
[05:58] <juliux> you can install it
[05:58] <juliux> but the default is gnome
[05:59] <christopher> ok, thats no use really.
[05:59] <jori> juliux: it woud probley be easy to install xubuntu and then de edu stuff
[05:59] <juliux> jori, that is also possible
[05:59] <christopher> we're looking at sending the disks to Schools in Africa, i.e. no internet.
[05:59] <christopher> it needs to work out the box.
[06:00] <jori> christopher: pre make you're own xedubuntu then ;)
[06:00] <Rondom> isn't there some spec for xedubuntu for feisty?
[06:01] <jori> Rondom: if i say pre make you're own it means there is none offical release ;)
[06:01] <Rondom> jori: I know
[06:01] <jori> christopher: you coud include the right .debs en edit the installer to install them :)
[06:01] <christopher> i know i *could* but is that realistic?
[06:02] <jori> why not ? if you really need to edu stuff i think its you're change unless samebody else know a othere way around it
[06:03] <christopher> any ideas as to where to point me as for a guide to do such a thing?
[06:04] <Rondom> jori: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Xedubuntu?highlight=%28Xedubuntu%29
[06:04] <Rondom> ^ i think this was what I was remembering
[06:05] <jori> Rondom: i ownstyle just made the name op because its a mix of edubbuntu and xubuntu :P
[06:05] <christopher> hm, where can i find the *.deb files?
[06:05] <Rondom> jori: I know
[06:05] <jori> edubuntu disk en xubuntu disk probley
[06:05] <jori> btw don't you give them pc's ? only a os ?
[06:05] <christopher> yeh we give them pc's, but they are all donated.
[06:06] <christopher> i.e. 64mb of ram is impressive
[06:06] <jori> christopher: pre install them you're self then :S
[06:06] <christopher> still need the deb files...
[06:07] <jori> just look on the disks
[06:07] <christopher> i only have an edubuntu disk
[06:08] <jori> hehehe you're faster then me this time :P
[06:09] <christopher> :P
[06:10] <christopher> so then if i extract the xfce *.deb files from that, put them on a cd then install them onto the edubuntu install that won't run due to lack of ram ?
[06:10] <christopher> will magic happen?
[06:11] <jori> hehehe you need the install disk that 1 wil run under you're normal ram etleast xfce4 i did't do mutch whit edubuntu
[06:12] <jori> i'm only here because i'm using xfce4 ltsp
[06:12] <jori> xubuntu ltsp *
[06:12] <christopher> so your saying install xubu 1st then install the educational stuff from edub cd?
[06:13] <jori> jeb :)
[06:13] <jori> that woud be the way i woud do it
[06:14] <christopher> hmm, this isn't looking as easy as I was selling it to be
[06:15] <jori> hehehe never sell the dear before you shoot it ;)
[06:15] <christopher> http://streetlites.org/ , we've been screwed over by M$ when it comes to licences so i've been pushing to get Linux out there instead, finally they start to listen then oops.
[06:15] <christopher> I'll try selling them the idea of a custom cd for us...
[06:16] <christopher> might work...
[06:16] <jori> persoonal i'm agianst project like that but hey thats a hole othere story...
[06:17] <christopher> hmm, can swap make up for ram ?
[06:17] <jori> yes and no
[06:18] <jori> anybody here know a simple way of explaning the hole swap story :P
[06:18] <christopher> when it comes to gnome long enough to install xfce?
[06:19] <jori> swap is alwase slower then ram so it maby run but then it wil run like crap
[06:21] <christopher> hmmm
[06:21] <christopher> installing Edubuntu now...
[06:21] <christopher> see how badly it falls over.
[06:21] <jori> its installing thats a +
[06:22] <christopher> under "low memory" mode./
[06:22] <jori> wtf is low memory mode :P
[06:22] <christopher> i don't know, seen as it's a text based installer I don't see there is much to disable...
[06:23] <jori> just see what happens w8 a sec stopid fuckers in my cs server agian need to play admin agian
[06:36] <christopher> ok, got xubuntu cd
[06:36] <christopher> iso
[06:36] <Rondom> jori: the spec (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/edubuntu-xfce-desktop) was deferred :-(
[06:42] <christopher> would I just need the deb's relating to xfce4 ?
[06:49] <christopher> i.e. pool/main/x/xfce4*
[07:00] <christopher> k3b
[07:00] <christopher> k3b
[07:00] <christopher> argh
[08:19] <yodaz> hi all
[08:19] <yodaz> I can get ltsp to work with dapper, ldm does not log on, it flashes the screen and then return to log in prompt, anybody have an idea ?
[08:20] <yodaz> I have done ltsp-update-sshkeys without success
[08:20] <yodaz> I have tried with xdmcp, but I have no keyboard when I want to type the login/pass
[08:20] <yodaz> I don't know what's wrong :(
[08:37] <yodaz> is there a way to have some debug log or so with ltsp ?
[08:39] <juliux> yodaz, do you have sabayon installed?
[08:39] <juliux> yodaz, did you tested to set the x-color-depth to 16 ?
[08:41] <yodaz> juliux: sabayon is not installed
[08:42] <yodaz> I try to force to 16 bit, with lts.conf, but same stuff
[08:43] <yodaz> I have set this : X_COLOR_DEPTH     = 16
[08:43] <juliux> ok
[08:44] <yodaz> the distrib is ubuntu dapper, with normal repository (dapper-updates, backports, security, and universe/multiverse)
[09:01] <yodaz> juliux: do you know if there's a way to have a logfile of errors that could happens on ltsp client ?
[10:30] <yodaz> juliux: I have succeed with xdmcp, and the option SCREEN_O7 = startx
[10:46] <cbx33> hi anyone ;)
[10:48] <yodaz> hi cbx33
[11:08] <yodaz> ++
[11:58] <achandra> Hello is there a PPC version of edubuntu that allows you to either install or run thin client for G4s over the network??
[11:59] <Burgwork> achandra: yes
[12:00] <achandra> Burghwork: where can I find the "how to" to do the afore mentioned question
[12:00] <achandra> Burgwork: I have sucessfully converted a few G4s in the lab using cdroms, but the tedium of it.....id much rather do a network install.
[12:01] <Burgwork> do you want thin clients or fat clients?
[12:01] <achandra> Burgwork: well...considering the school cant spend money on a dual xeon to support all clients..itll have to be fat for now.
[12:01] <Burgwork> right
[12:02] <achandra> Burgwork: so lets assume a network install, with TFTP, DHCP .
[12:02] <achandra> over NFS or HTTP.
[12:02] <Burgwork> you could also use kickstart
[12:02] <achandra> centos...right?
[12:03] <Burgwork> kickstart works in ubuntu
[12:03] <achandra> you just answered my question..
[12:03] <Burgwork> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KickstartCompatibility
[12:03] <achandra> ahhh
[12:03] <achandra> okay
[12:03] <achandra> so you can adapt a response file to install
[12:04] <achandra> and on MAC what is the "majic" key to do the network install?
[12:04] <achandra> i know "c" is for cdrom and
[12:04] <achandra> network??
[12:04] <achandra> (sorry a little lazy)....i can google that...but you can save mne some grief