=== Sergi0 [n=serge@ip227-28-166-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #edubuntu === stgraber [n=stgraber@client80-83-51-125.abo.net2000.ch] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #edubuntu === freet15 [n=freet15@61.49.220.154] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt_ is now known as jack_wyt === jack_wyt [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #edubuntu === freet15 [n=freet15@61.49.220.154] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #edubuntu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #edubuntu [02:59] last five hours only activity is joins/parts === freet15 [n=freet15@61.49.220.154] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #edubuntu === cafuego__ [n=cafuego@ppp80-207.lns2.mel3.internode.on.net] has joined #edubuntu === CrazytalesAway is now known as crazytales === crazytales is now known as asdfghbte_rue === jack_wyt [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #edubuntu === asdfghbte_rue is now known as cta === cta is now known as GurchSan === GurchSan is now known as CrazytalesAway === jack_wyt [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt__ [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #edubuntu === freet15 [n=freet15@61.49.220.154] has joined #edubuntu === freet15 [n=freet15@61.49.220.154] has joined #edubuntu === lguerra [n=lguerra8@200.119.32.21] has joined #edubuntu [04:20] hi all === ctails__ [i=chris@unaffiliated/crazytales] has joined #edubuntu === jbrefort [n=jean@lns-bzn-26-82-254-119-205.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === cstextiles [n=SpShah@59.184.58.149] has joined #edubuntu [10:54] My Edubuntu 6.06 Installtion stops after "Setting up ltsp-server(0.87)" message [10:54] A blank screen comes and then nothing happens even when i m in the F4 windows === RichEd-1 [n=richard@dsl-241-92-183.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [10:58] mornin [10:58] g [10:59] My Edubuntu 6.06 Installtion stops after "Setting up ltsp-server(0.87)" message [10:59] A blank screen comes and then nothing happens even when i m in the F4 windows [11:03] cstextiles, what is the last thing you can read at f4 window? [11:04] Setting up ltsp-server(0.87) [11:04] But after some time the screen goes blank [11:04] and remains blank indefinitely [11:04] how long you wait? [11:04] for half an hour [11:05] I was in the F4 mode and then the screen got blank [11:05] Then I tried F1 or other function keys but nothing happened [11:05] hm then i have no idea what it could be [11:06] Before that this message comes "Warning: fake start-stop daemon called doing nothing" === cstextiles [n=SpShah@59.184.58.149] has left #edubuntu [] === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === pirast [n=martin@p508B10AB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=greatwhi@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === martin__ [n=martin@p508B10AB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === jack_at_home [n=jack@222.131.255.84] has joined #edubuntu === jack_at_home [n=jack@222.131.255.84] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@vc-196-207-32-235.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=greatwhi@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === Rondom [n=Rondom@p57A95EAE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #edubuntu [04:12] Heya === jori [n=jori@t-miog.demon.nl] has joined #edubuntu [04:28] hello anybody here know if a ltsp server can use the local sound card of the client ? === ctails__ is now known as Crazytales === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === Crazytales is now known as CrazytalesBusy === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu [05:30] hello anybody here know if a ltsp server can use the local sound card of the client ? [05:31] jori, it depends on the soundcard, but general you can use the sound card from the client [05:32] juliux: whats the magicline in the config i can use esd over the network but that just won't do the job for firefox flashplayer [05:32] jori, in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf add the option SOUND=True [05:33] already there it only works for esd not for dsp sound [05:33] jori, see http://www.edubuntu.org/ThinClientConfig [05:33] i think there is only esd support and now dsp support [05:33] but you can use esd on your thinclient [05:35] juliux: how the hell do i tell firefox and flashplayer inside of firefox to talk over esd sins if i just say use esd they try to start esd locally [05:35] jori, test to set it in the gnome audio settings under system->settings->audio [05:36] juliux: i'm runnen xfce4 :P but esd works tested in xmms [05:38] try to start firefox from a terminal with esddsp firefox [05:39] no feedback from the console ( firefox sound is now setup to auto it was setup to none ) and no sound [05:39] do i need to set it to dsp ? === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.230.102.77] has joined #edubuntu [05:41] you can try it [05:41] greetings [05:41] hmmm noting already try -m but stil nu result [05:41] i never used sound on the thinclient, because i have an unsupportet audio chip in my thinclients [05:42] juliux: most of my thin clients are use for interneting but i'm getting complanes about flashplayer audio [05:44] strange it is that firefox is like the only app that try's and START esd :S al othere apps just take the remote esd connect like its the default 1 === christopher [n=christop@adsl-83-100-208-159.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #edubuntu [05:54] Hello, question on minimum spec for edubuntu? [05:54] how much ram is needed? [05:55] 256MB [05:56] christopher, 32mb for a client, server 256MB + 128MB for every thinclient [05:56] stgraber: serieusly damit edubuntu is a memory eater :p [05:56] ok, for a stand alone with X 64mb won't be much use? [05:57] christopher: my advies woud be try xubuntu [05:57] christopher, not with gnome with xfce perhaps [05:57] juliux: lol :P [05:57] no, we *need* the education stuff to work out of the box. [05:58] christopher, you can use the apps also with xfce [05:58] does edubuntu have xfce? [05:58] you can install it [05:58] but the default is gnome [05:59] ok, thats no use really. [05:59] juliux: it woud probley be easy to install xubuntu and then de edu stuff [05:59] jori, that is also possible [05:59] we're looking at sending the disks to Schools in Africa, i.e. no internet. [05:59] it needs to work out the box. [06:00] christopher: pre make you're own xedubuntu then ;) [06:00] isn't there some spec for xedubuntu for feisty? [06:01] Rondom: if i say pre make you're own it means there is none offical release ;) [06:01] jori: I know [06:01] christopher: you coud include the right .debs en edit the installer to install them :) [06:01] i know i *could* but is that realistic? [06:02] why not ? if you really need to edu stuff i think its you're change unless samebody else know a othere way around it [06:03] any ideas as to where to point me as for a guide to do such a thing? [06:04] jori: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Xedubuntu?highlight=%28Xedubuntu%29 [06:04] ^ i think this was what I was remembering [06:05] Rondom: i ownstyle just made the name op because its a mix of edubbuntu and xubuntu :P [06:05] hm, where can i find the *.deb files? [06:05] jori: I know [06:05] edubuntu disk en xubuntu disk probley [06:05] btw don't you give them pc's ? only a os ? [06:05] yeh we give them pc's, but they are all donated. [06:06] i.e. 64mb of ram is impressive [06:06] christopher: pre install them you're self then :S [06:06] still need the deb files... [06:07] just look on the disks [06:07] i only have an edubuntu disk === christopher starts downloading xubuntu install [06:08] hehehe you're faster then me this time :P [06:09] :P [06:10] so then if i extract the xfce *.deb files from that, put them on a cd then install them onto the edubuntu install that won't run due to lack of ram ? [06:10] will magic happen? [06:11] hehehe you need the install disk that 1 wil run under you're normal ram etleast xfce4 i did't do mutch whit edubuntu [06:12] i'm only here because i'm using xfce4 ltsp [06:12] xubuntu ltsp * [06:12] so your saying install xubu 1st then install the educational stuff from edub cd? [06:13] jeb :) [06:13] that woud be the way i woud do it [06:14] hmm, this isn't looking as easy as I was selling it to be [06:15] hehehe never sell the dear before you shoot it ;) [06:15] http://streetlites.org/ , we've been screwed over by M$ when it comes to licences so i've been pushing to get Linux out there instead, finally they start to listen then oops. [06:15] I'll try selling them the idea of a custom cd for us... [06:16] might work... [06:16] persoonal i'm agianst project like that but hey thats a hole othere story... [06:17] hmm, can swap make up for ram ? [06:17] yes and no [06:18] anybody here know a simple way of explaning the hole swap story :P [06:18] when it comes to gnome long enough to install xfce? [06:19] swap is alwase slower then ram so it maby run but then it wil run like crap [06:21] hmmm [06:21] installing Edubuntu now... [06:21] see how badly it falls over. [06:21] its installing thats a + [06:22] under "low memory" mode./ [06:22] wtf is low memory mode :P [06:22] i don't know, seen as it's a text based installer I don't see there is much to disable... [06:23] just see what happens w8 a sec stopid fuckers in my cs server agian need to play admin agian === SimonAnibal [n=simon@adsl-68-251-248-132.dsl.bltnin.ameritech.net] has joined #edubuntu [06:36] ok, got xubuntu cd [06:36] iso [06:36] jori: the spec (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/edubuntu-xfce-desktop) was deferred :-( [06:42] would I just need the deb's relating to xfce4 ? [06:49] i.e. pool/main/x/xfce4* [07:00] k3b [07:00] k3b [07:00] argh === SimonAnibal_ [n=simon@adsl-68-251-248-132.dsl.bltnin.ameritech.net] has joined #edubuntu === yodaz [n=yoda@yodnet.com] has joined #edubuntu [08:19] hi all [08:19] I can get ltsp to work with dapper, ldm does not log on, it flashes the screen and then return to log in prompt, anybody have an idea ? [08:20] I have done ltsp-update-sshkeys without success [08:20] I have tried with xdmcp, but I have no keyboard when I want to type the login/pass [08:20] I don't know what's wrong :( [08:37] is there a way to have some debug log or so with ltsp ? [08:39] yodaz, do you have sabayon installed? [08:39] yodaz, did you tested to set the x-color-depth to 16 ? [08:41] juliux: sabayon is not installed [08:42] I try to force to 16 bit, with lts.conf, but same stuff [08:43] I have set this : X_COLOR_DEPTH = 16 [08:43] ok [08:44] the distrib is ubuntu dapper, with normal repository (dapper-updates, backports, security, and universe/multiverse) === jinty [n=jinty@196.207.32.235] has joined #edubuntu === Burgwork [n=corey@d64-180-214-139.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #edubuntu [09:01] juliux: do you know if there's a way to have a logfile of errors that could happens on ltsp client ? === blue-frog [n=bluefrog@dyn-83-153-223-210.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu [10:30] juliux: I have succeed with xdmcp, and the option SCREEN_O7 = startx [10:46] hi anyone ;) [10:48] hi cbx33 === RichEd-2 [n=richard@dsl-241-92-183.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth [n=travis@unaffiliated/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu [11:08] ++ === yodaz [n=yoda@yodnet.com] has left #edubuntu [] === sc0tt_ is now known as sc0tt === sc0tt is now known as sc0tt_ === achandra [n=achandra@static-71-103-255-118.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu [11:58] Hello is there a PPC version of edubuntu that allows you to either install or run thin client for G4s over the network?? [11:59] achandra: yes === Sergi0 [n=serge@ip227-28-166-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #edubuntu [12:00] Burghwork: where can I find the "how to" to do the afore mentioned question [12:00] Burgwork: I have sucessfully converted a few G4s in the lab using cdroms, but the tedium of it.....id much rather do a network install. [12:01] do you want thin clients or fat clients? [12:01] Burgwork: well...considering the school cant spend money on a dual xeon to support all clients..itll have to be fat for now. [12:01] right [12:02] Burgwork: so lets assume a network install, with TFTP, DHCP . [12:02] over NFS or HTTP. [12:02] you could also use kickstart [12:02] centos...right? [12:03] kickstart works in ubuntu [12:03] you just answered my question.. [12:03] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KickstartCompatibility [12:03] ahhh [12:03] okay [12:03] so you can adapt a response file to install [12:04] and on MAC what is the "majic" key to do the network install? [12:04] i know "c" is for cdrom and [12:04] network?? [12:04] (sorry a little lazy)....i can google that...but you can save mne some grief