[12:18] <genii> LBB No immediate ideas on that
[12:19] <LBB> genii thanks anyway, I'll go and do some more research!
[12:19] <genii> Sounds like a plan :)
[12:19] <jarodrig> Hello
[12:20] <LBB> hi
[12:20] <Ace2016> Hi
[12:21] <Dr_willis> H1
[12:22] <genii> Did avalon ever get his wacom tablet drivers compiled and installed?
[12:34] <Fibbs> rehi
[12:37] <genii> ok time to leave again :) Have fun all
[12:45] <MasterLexx> anybody here with a ubuntu wiki account?
[12:54] <apokryphos> !anyone | MasterLexx
[12:54] <ubotu> MasterLexx: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:54] <apokryphos> :)
[12:55] <MasterLexx> this was the question
[12:55] <MasterLexx> can somebody add something for me on the ubuntu hardware wiki?
[12:56] <adaptr> MasterLexx: no it wasna - you want to do something to the wiki :)
[12:56] <adaptr> see, that wasn't so bad
[12:56] <MasterLexx> :-)
[12:56] <adaptr> make an account ? mail them ?
[12:56] <adaptr> no idea how that stuff works - a Wiki is usually open to all
[12:57] <MasterLexx> not this one. needs a login
[12:57] <MasterLexx> but i don't want to be so bad to fill their database with another account just for a little important addon
[12:59] <adaptr> why so ? it will be *your* account, and unless you're wonky, you don't already have one now
[12:59] <MasterEvilAce> Trying to run a Dell 2007WFP (1680x1050) LCD at 1600x1200.. and it just doesn't work. It only works at 1680x1050... Anything I should try?
[01:01] <adaptr> is it a laptop ?
[01:02] <MasterEvilAce> yessir
[01:02] <adaptr> if so, it should run at that widescreen reso.. it won't go higher whatever you try
[01:02] <jontec> crimsun: I need help with sound :D
[01:02] <adaptr> i.e. this is expected behaviour
[01:03] <MasterEvilAce> Like.. I have a laptop with a native res of 1600x1200. I have an external LCD hooked up that is 1680x1050. I want to run both (CLONED SCREEN) at 1600x1200.. so i see the same thing on both. However, my external simply won't run at the 1600x1200 for some reason. (Setting the MetaModes for TwinView)
[01:04] <adaptr> MasterEvilAce: how would you expect to run a 1680x1050 LCD panel above that resolution ? it is PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE
[01:06] <MasterEvilAce> adaptr: Oh, I see what you're saying. It didn't occur to me that 1600x1200 is > 1680x1050
[01:06] <adaptr> MasterEvilAce: bedtime perhaps ? :)
[01:06] <MasterEvilAce> shit.. well hmm
[01:06] <s1zzl3r> where do I place xmodmap -e command for automatic startup
[01:06] <adaptr> nor will you convince the laptop to run at 1680, either
[01:07] <adaptr> s1zzl3r: somewhere it will get executed.. .xinitrc seems like a good place to start
[01:07] <MasterEvilAce> wellt he laptop is kinda running 1680x1050.. it's just that i can't see the edge of the screen :P
[01:07] <s1zzl3r> ~/.xinitrc?
[01:07] <noiesmo> s1zzl3r, in ~/.kde/Autostart
[01:07] <s1zzl3r> k
[01:07] <adaptr> MasterEvilAce: thats' virtual reso.... if you can convince twinview to do tghat, then it should work
[01:07] <MasterEvilAce> Is there any way to SCALE the 1600x1200 resolution down to a resolution that will fit on my external LCD?
[01:08] <s1zzl3r> and how then?
[01:08] <adaptr> MasterEvilAce: that would be... bad, since the scaling is in bvoith x and y, and by very small amounts -> extreme distortions-r-yours
[01:08] <MasterEvilAce> adaptr: crap. i'm just too used to CRTs
[01:08] <adaptr> MasterEvilAce: like I said, perhaps twinview will have some sort of smartypants to be able to do this
[01:09] <max_> how do you check to see what version of a program you have?
[01:09] <adaptr> perhaps you could try to output just 1600x1050 and scale only in Y on the laptop... that might be bearable
[01:09] <adaptr> max_: program -V or -v or --version
[01:10] <adaptr> MasterEvilAce: I mean: set your desktop to 1600x1050, and somehow convince the external to center it in the 1680, and resize the 1050 to 1200 on the laptop.. it would be kludgy, but probably bearable
[01:11] <adaptr> and at least they would be identical
[01:11] <adaptr> personally, I owuld not waste such lovely real estate on a clone... a 3200x1050 desktop is surely worth some tweaking ?
[01:12] <dope> is there a default session to log into on kubuntu?
[01:12] <dope> like a guest session
[01:14] <dope> anyone
[01:14] <Dr_willis> clarify that a little bit.
[01:15] <dope> like a session to log into kubuntu with
[01:17] <dope> like when you first start up kubuntu and it asks for a username and password
[01:17] <Dr_willis> Yea.. when you installed Kubuntu, you gave it a username and password..
[01:18] <Plaguez> Hi, I'm a new user of kubunto, its awesome
[01:18] <Dr_willis> there is no 'guest' account.
[01:18] <dope> oh, damn
[01:18] <Plaguez> ubunto*
[01:18] <php-freak> http://www.usbgear.com/USB2_SVGA_USB_video_carD/usb_svga_test.html#req hey do you guys think this will work with my os?
[01:19] <Plaguez> Can anyone help me with a problem, my connection is really slow, the dns resolve takes ages, i think you have to alter some ip text file with gEdit, any help on where this file is?
[01:19] <Plaguez> im new to ubunto too.
[01:19] <eilker> !nis
[01:19] <Plaguez> please :-(
[01:19] <ubotu> nis: Clients and daemons for the Network Information Services (NIS). In component main, is extra. Version 3.16-1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 207 kB, installed size 792 kB
[01:20] <BluesKaj> yeah , not hard to tell yer new , when ya have difficulty spelling the name :)
[01:21] <Plaguez> Can anyone help?
[01:21] <genii> stdin You get herd1 to update OK?
[01:22] <Plaguez> I can't get c++ stup in anjuta either. pain in the ass.
[01:22] <genii> !anjuta
[01:22] <ubotu> anjuta: A GNOME development IDE, for C/C++. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.2-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1494 kB, installed size 3760 kB
[01:22] <genii> !kdevelop
[01:22] <ubotu> kdevelop: An IDE for Unix/X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.4-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 7894 kB, installed size 24892 kB
[01:22] <Dr_willis> !emacs
[01:22] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[01:23] <Plaguez> ok, thanks for the info, is there any ide for ubunto equivalent to textpad on windows?
[01:24] <MasterLexx> ohh man, why are there only a few kubuntu repositories in the adpt get manager?
[01:24] <genii> for Kubuntu is Kwrite
[01:24] <MasterLexx> why can't i update it to get new links?
[01:25] <pippo_> Ciao
[01:25] <Plaguez> ok genni, but i am on the newest ubunto edgy eft , can I use that for my os?
[01:25] <MasterLexx> is there a site to download a repository file? so i can download more software from the rep links?
[01:26] <genii_> Did anyone just get a connection reset or just me? Trying to decide if my connection is going to crap
[01:27] <genii> etsplit?
[01:27] <genii> netsplit?
[01:28] <genii> On chatzilla I don't think i see netsplit msgs
[01:31] <dominik> hello world
[01:31] <Plaguez> lol
[01:36] <dettoaltrimenti_> I have a Toshiba Satellite laptop with a memory card reader, and kubuntu Edgy won't recognize a 2gb SD memory stick- can anyone help me with this?
[01:37] <Dr_willis> it sees other memory sticks?
[01:37] <dettoaltrimenti_> this is the only one I have, and the only one I've tried
[01:37] <Dr_willis> on my laptop the card reader dont work... which is a bummer.
[01:38] <Dr_willis> at lest it used to not work.. not tried it lately
[01:38] <dettoaltrimenti_> how can I tell which items in my /dev folder are which devices?
[01:38] <Dr_willis> but a $5 usb -media reader gizmo-15inOne - works.
[01:38] <unix_infidel> Dr_willis: same turion?
[01:38] <unix_infidel> or new laptop?
[01:39] <Dr_willis> unix_infidel,  yep.  its gotten better with edgy. :) suspend works..  i had wireless working once... but cant get it working now..
[01:39] <Dr_willis> but all i do with it is... well.. not much
[01:39] <unix_infidel> lol
[01:39] <Dr_willis> heh heh
[01:39] <Dr_willis> i was amazed that the suspend/hibernate stuff worked.
[01:39] <unix_infidel> i cant believe you still have that thing running after a year.
[01:39] <unix_infidel> must've kept it on a desk the entire time :P
[01:39] <Dr_willis> it runs fine. for what i need.
[01:39] <Dr_willis> it dosent travel a lot.
[01:40] <Dr_willis> they got mad at us watching movies on it at work.,
[01:40] <Dr_willis> so it has not a lot of ussage other then sitting on the table in the kitchen for the wife to use and so on.
[01:40] <jmichaelx> has anyone else been having problems with USB storage devices in dapper? as of the last several days this machine will not mount any USB hard drives/jump drives/ipods, etc
[01:41] <unix_infidel> heh, well yea i'd guess they'd get mad when you've got robotic welding machines all over the place :P
[01:41] <Dr_willis> actually our robots are 'part loader/unloaders'
[01:41] <Dr_willis> :)
[01:41] <Dr_willis> our welders fairly simple. part welders.
[01:42] <Dr_willis> Just heard DaimlerChrysler is 'supposed' to be building a new plant 15 mi from here.. which is good job security for me..
[01:42] <Dr_willis> that will mean 4 plants here in the Kokomo area
[01:42] <MasterLexx> why can't i install synaptic in kubuntu?
[01:42] <unix_infidel> why not apply for a sysadmin job :P
[01:43] <jmichaelx> kokomo? i live in warsaw:-D
[01:43] <BluesKaj> I'm near timbucktoo :)
[01:43] <jmichaelx> i have friends around greentown
[01:44] <Dr_willis> I dont work on 'computers' at work.. i work on machines at work. :)
[01:44] <Dr_willis> welders, cnc lathes, mills, broaches, ect.
[01:44] <Dr_willis> MasterLexx,  sudo apt-get install synaptic
[01:44] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, where's kokomo ?
[01:44] <Dr_willis> Smack dab in the middle of Indiana
[01:45] <unix_infidel> w00t, just got a 20k fake name generator file in :)
[01:45] <Dr_willis> Indianaanananan :)
[01:45] <BluesKaj> ahha , I knew it ...drove thru there in 1969
[01:45] <MasterLexx> hmm thanks,  off is this difficult... no installtion available for it or too old
[01:45] <dope> does kubuntu listen for ssh connections on startup or do i have to set something up?
[01:45] <Dr_willis> Kokomo - "city of redlights"
[01:45] <Dr_willis> dope,  you need to install the ssh server
[01:45] <Dr_willis> !ssh
[01:45] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[01:45] <jmichaelx> Dr_willis: that is no joke lol
[01:45] <dettoaltrimenti_> what kind of name do memory sticks usually show up as in /dev: sda, sdb, or some other name?
[01:46] <unix_infidel> dope: what do you mean listen for ssh connections?
[01:46] <Dr_willis> dettoaltrimenti_,  should be sd##
[01:46] <Alendreia> omk
[01:46] <unix_infidel> if you just apt-get install openssh-client openssh-server then yes it'll automatically hook up with init and start on boot.
[01:46] <Dr_willis> where ## = a b c d 1 2 3 4 ect..
[01:46] <dettoaltrimenti_> if I have the stick plugged in and it's not showing up in /dev, what steps can I take to try and get it to work?
[01:47] <dope> ok cool, will it be listening if i install it right now?
[01:47] <unix_infidel> dope: netstat -alne will tell you.
[01:47] <dope> kk
[01:47] <Dr_willis> dettoaltrimenti_,  check dmesg output - see if its seen/where and try 'sudo fdisk -l' to see if its seen
[01:47] <unix_infidel> make sure youfollow that link ubotu gave you.
[01:47] <unix_infidel> it'll tell you how to properly set it up.
[01:48] <dope> what port does ssh listen on?
[01:48] <lupine_85> 22
[01:49] <dope> k thx
[01:49] <jmichaelx> my dapper laptop is not willing to mount USB storage devices for some reason :-(
[01:49] <php-freak> hey guys whats suse? i have found this video card usb at http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16812203013, and it says it works with linux, down at the bottom right?
[01:49] <php-freak> says it worked with suse, wonder if it works with kubuntu
[01:51] <dettoaltrimenti_> Dr_willis: would an unmounted storage device show up in fdisk -l?
[01:51] <Dr_willis> dettoaltrimenti_,  yes.
[01:53] <dettoaltrimenti_> Dr_willis: it isn't showing up in fdisk, or dmesg- is there any way for me to find the actual device that reads cards (the hardware):?
[01:54] <Dr_willis> dettoaltrimenti_,  its dynamic for usb devices
[01:54] <Dr_willis> when its seen, and the modules detect it. they are supposed to create the /dev/whatever entry
[01:54] <Dr_willis> dettoaltrimenti_,  thus we are back to it being the 'media reader' thats not supported.
[01:55] <dettoaltrimenti_> dr_willis: ok, so the media reader would show up in /dev, even if it was empty?
[01:55] <Dr_willis> dettoaltrimenti_,  no.. the cards ya plug in whoudl get /dev/sd#@ entries as needed
[01:56] <Dr_willis> many laptop media readers are not 'usb' devices. so they may not get seen withoug specific modules/drivers i guess
[01:56] <Dr_willis> try 'lspci' and see what  media reader ya got and google for it.  also google for that exact laptop and linux ussage. (ubuntu forums are good also to check)
[01:56] <dettoaltrimenti_> Dr_willis thanks: I'll try and see if I can get more information on the actual media reader online
[01:57] <Dr_willis> or go get a $5 usb-media reader like i did. :)
[01:58] <unix_infidel> lol @ usb-card-readers.
[01:59] <dope> how do you enable remote desktop on kubuntu
[01:59] <unix_infidel> some of my computers have less memory than my cell phone.
[01:59] <unix_infidel> !rdp
[01:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rdp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:59] <adaptr> !rdesktop
[01:59] <ubotu> rdesktop: RDP client for Windows NT/2000 Terminal Server. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.1-1.1 (edgy), package size 98 kB, installed size 388 kB
[01:59] <Dr_willis> or just use vnc :)
[01:59] <Dr_willis> dependng on your needs
[01:59] <dope> well is it already enabled on kubuntu
[02:00] <adaptr> dope: do you mean ubuntu-to-ubuntu remote access ? because "remote desktop" is a specific windows product...
[02:00] <adaptr> for that , you can use VNC, or XDMCP
[02:01] <dope> i want to vnc into my kubuntu box
[02:02] <dominik> ok
[02:03] <dope> is it listening already
[02:03] <php-freak> Works with the sisusb driver for 2.6.x kernels and sisusb x.org driver. Works great out of the box with SuSE 10.1. hey i read this on a review, now will this work with kubuntu?
[02:03] <php-freak> the user review said it did
[02:03] <php-freak> ?
[02:03] <dope> uh
[02:04] <Dr_willis> if the driver is in the kennel.. its in the kernel
[02:04] <dettoaltrimenti_> how can I see what version of the linux kernel I'm using: either in adept, or in the terminal?
[02:04] <Dr_willis> so it shoudl work with any disrto using 2.6.x
[02:04] <Dr_willis> uname -a
[02:04] <Dr_willis> shows kernel and more info
[02:04] <dettoaltrimenti_> thank you
[02:05] <php-freak> 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Fri Oct 13 18:45:35 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:05] <jmichaelx> has anyone else been having problems with USB storage devices in dapper? as of the last several days this machine will not mount any USB hard drives/jump drives/ipods, etc.. if anyone has a suggestion, i would appreciate it
[02:05] <php-freak> hehe
[02:06] <dope> how do i enable vnc server from the command line?
[02:06] <Ertain> I can't seem to get my microphone to work.  It's plugged into my motherboard.  It is a nVidia2 connection.  I am using Edgy.
[02:08] <dettoaltrimenti_> what is the command to log in after you've registered with nickserv on this channel?
[02:09] <dettoaltrimenti_> nevermind, I got it
[02:12] <documan> can I build via GUI my own linux distro? to take some elements of various distros and build my own?
[02:13] <adaptr> documan: unlikely.. 90% of building a distro is handwork
[02:13] <documan> uh pity
[02:14] <adaptr> documan: actually, your question in and of itself pretty much defines that you won't be able to build your own distro - sorry
[02:14] <lupine_85> documan: see LFS for details on building your own distro. If konsole counts as a GUI, yes, you can do it in a GUI
[02:14] <lupine_85> !LFS
[02:14] <documan> customizing winxp build is a piece of cake with nlite
[02:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about LFS - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:14] <lupine_85> hmm, bad bot
[02:14] <lupine_85> documan: you're not asking to customise an OS - you're asking about making your own
[02:14] <documan> I know lfs, but its not gui
[02:14] <lupine_85> they're slightly different things
[02:14] <documan> ok then a gui to customize a distro
[02:15] <Ertain> How do I figure out which process is using which device?
[02:15] <Dr_willis> SLAX has several tools to easially customize it.
[02:19] <sandbox> You know what disappoints me... I want to install another hard drive in this computer, But I don't want to shut down Linux. It's just too stable to be shut down. :/
[02:19] <Dr_willis> vmware
[02:19] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:19] <Dr_willis> oh wait i missread...
[02:20] <Dr_willis> usb enclosure.
[02:20] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:20] <sandbox> Yah I though about that.
[02:20] <sandbox> I've been contemplating this for days now. I just can't do it though.
[02:20] <Dr_willis> external sata is cool i hear.
[02:21] <sandbox> Unfortunately I do not have sata. pure IDE.
[02:21] <Omnifrog> Ertain, try using 'lsof | grep [process ID] '
[02:22] <Ertain> I should type in that whole command?
[02:22] <Omnifrog> ya, replace [process ID]  with the actual process id
[02:22] <Omnifrog> get that from 'ps -aux'
[02:23] <Omnifrog> thats all i can think of off hand
[02:24] <documan> can I install linux in a partition while I am logged in winxp? (like I do with winxp apps)
[02:24] <Dr_willis> You COULD use vmware and have Linux running in its own virtual machine.
[02:24] <Dr_willis> or qemu
[02:24] <Ertain> Crap.  I need to know which program is using the device, specifically /dev/dsp
[02:29] <adaptr> Ertain: lsof | grep /dev/dsp
[02:29] <Omnifrog> you might need quotes there
[02:29] <Omnifrog> for the /
[02:29] <adaptr> erm.. no
[02:29] <cyd0g> good morning
[02:29] <adaptr> erm.. maybe
[02:29] <adaptr> erm.. I claim innocence
[02:30] <adaptr> that usually works
[02:30] <cyd0g> could somebofy help me please
[02:30] <cyd0g> my intel 945 video card is lagging wen starting bery , i use 810 driver
[02:31] <cyd0g> is there an newer one i could use ?
[02:31] <Ace2016> did google just break?
[02:31] <Dr_willis> a newer card?
[02:32] <Omnifrog> google cant break
[02:32] <Ace2016> the descriptions of the sites and stuff have gone, i just get a list of urls
[02:32] <Omnifrog> they own the universe
[02:32] <cyd0g> lol, no thx - card is fast enough fpr beryl
[02:32] <Ace2016> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=opera&rls=en&hs=vf2&q=linux+image+editors&btnG=Search
[02:32] <cyd0g> need some tweaking ?
[02:32] <Dr_willis> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=can+google+break&btnG=Google+Search
[02:32] <Ace2016> that works ok
[02:33] <Omnifrog> you doubted google, HAHAHAHAHA
[02:33] <Omnifrog> heathen
[02:33] <adaptr> Omnifrog: do you croak omnidirectionally ?
[02:33] <Dr_willis> but then again i find Beryl useless.
[02:33] <Omnifrog> indeed
[02:33] <Ace2016> no really i keep getting a list of urls for just that search term
[02:34] <Dr_willis> sounds like a plugin/extension
[02:34] <cyd0g> @dr_willis beryl worked fine, but since a wew days it starts lagging
[02:34] <Ace2016> its opera
[02:34] <Omnifrog> my mighty ribbit is equal in all directions at each moment of time
[02:34] <Ace2016> konqueror works ok as usual
[02:35] <Omnifrog> it is fair ans so it will be
[02:35] <dettoaltrimenti_> is there a phonetic cyrillic keyboard available on edgy? I have the normal russian keyboard layout right now, but an english keyboard
[02:35] <Omnifrog> all things are fair use in the omnifrogs universe
[02:37] <Ertain> I can't seem to use /dev/dsp.  I think it has to do with my sound system, but I don't know for sure.
[02:38] <adaptr> Ertain: hard to imagine what else it could have to do with....
[02:39] <Ertain> I mean it could be ALSA or OSS.
[02:40] <Ertain> Heck I change the volume on my headphones and it also changes the volume on my speakers.
[02:42] <adaptr> Ertain: forget OSS - it's extinct
[02:42] <programacion> hola
[02:42] <Ertain> Okay, I think it isn't.  My headphones work, but the attached microphone doesn't work.
[02:42] <programacion> hello
[02:42] <dettoaltrimenti_> hello programacion
[02:43] <adaptr> dettoaltrimenti_: inglesi, por favore
[02:44] <dettoaltrimenti_> what?
[02:44] <dettoaltrimenti_> where are the keyboard layout files located in kubuntu?
[02:45] <adaptr> oh, it was his *name*.. sjeez.. sorry 'bout that
[02:45] <dettoaltrimenti_> it's ok
[02:45] <adaptr> If only people would use normal, acceptable English names here.. like Hank, or Norbert :)
[02:47] <Ertain> I cannot figure out why my headphones work, but the microphone doesn't.
[02:48] <dettoaltrimenti_> ertain- maybe they're seen as separate devices and you need a driver?
[02:49] <Dr_willis> some soundcards have  'programable' ports that can act as eother in or outputs..
[02:49] <Ertain> The whole sound system is on the motherboard.  Plus in Kmix it sees two mics.
[02:50] <Ertain> Btw, I've tried setting both of them.
[02:50] <Ertain> And I have a video capture card.
[02:51] <Ingenium> my friend just got a 64 bit AMD processor. What are the advantages/disadvantages to using the 64-bit version of Kubuntu?
[02:53] <karmikaze> heh
[02:54] <Hirvinen> Ingenium: Ubuntu Wiki's search function is your friend.
[02:55] <Ingenium> Hirvinen: ahh, yeah, I should have checked that first. Thanks.
[02:55] <lupine_85> bah, why can't we have per-channel nick changes?
[02:58] <adaptr> so would that be, like... d*mn you, whahahahahWOOF !
[02:59] <adaptr> ..or GROWL, as may be
[03:05] <vladi> anyone know how to get konqueror to show previews of movie (.avi etc) files?
[03:05] <vladi> in Ubuntu (gnome) this is done by default but that doesnt seem to be the case with konqueror
[03:06] <noiesmo> vladi, maybe check at kde-apps.org
[03:08] <mga_mark> Hello
[03:08] <noiesmo> vladi, http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=41180
[03:08] <stewart> yo
[03:08] <mga_mark> I'm getting ready to install Kbuntu to my hard drive. Any last words?
[03:10] <documan> all linuxes have the same "Filesystem Hierarchy Standard" ?
[03:10] <mga_mark> No last words, huh.
[03:12] <stewart> mga_mark: good luck?
[03:12] <mga_mark> compilerwriter, are you there?
[03:13] <mga_mark> Hi stewart, is the install that big a deal?
[03:15] <dettoaltrimenti_> mga_mark: you'll be fine. All will go smoothly.
[03:18] <mga_mark> Will I be able to install things like plug ins very easily? I hear about codecs, but I don't find them in adept.
[03:25] <mga_mark> Anyone there to answer a couple of questions?
[03:26] <documan> I would like to ask: I am the sole user of my system, is there a linux that doesnt have "users" stuff?
[03:27] <mga_mark> I would like to ask: how do I install, for example, a gmail notifier?
[03:27] <wimpies> I want to share my desktop with somebody but I am behind a firewall.  I hear there is something like 'reverse' vnc ? How can I set this up in KDE ?
[03:28] <dettoaltrimenti_> mga_mark: to install anything, there is a program called adept- you can search based on the name or description of the program, and just click install. it's that easy
[03:29] <mga_mark> I am trying it. I installed firefox easily, because it came right up.
[03:29] <mga_mark> I can't find a gmail notifier,
[03:29] <dettoaltrimenti_> for gmail notifier, if you search for gmail, the first item on the list is checkgmail, an alternative gmail notifier for linux
[03:29] <Alatriste> hi people
[03:30] <Alatriste> somebody know if funtions keys work normally with a usb keyboard in kubuntu?
[03:30] <faked_> how do I install an .rpm file?
[03:30] <mga_mark> I entered gmail in the search. I'll try it again
[03:30] <wimpies> faked_ : install 'alien' and run alien x.rpm which generates x.deb
[03:30] <mga_mark> the only thing that comes up is something for thunderbird.
[03:30] <Alatriste> i've created a virtual machine for XP and inside the virtual machine it tells me to press F8 to continue, but F8 doesn't works anyway
[03:31] <wimpies> F8 should work but I have a keyboard which requires pression special key before F-keys behave as normal (have special meaning also)
[03:31] <dettoaltrimenti_> mga_mark: go to view-- manage repositories, and click on the two lines that say 'universe multiverse'
[03:31] <mga_mark> ok, hang on. Thanks
[03:32] <faked_> wimpies: thanks
[03:32] <dettoaltrimenti_> then click on Fetch Updates and it should show up when you search for gmail
[03:32] <mga_mark> where is universe multiverse.
[03:33] <dettoaltrimenti_> under where it says "uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe' repository
[03:33] <wimpies> are there packages for openoffice 2.1 ?
[03:34] <dettoaltrimenti_> mga_mark if it's not written in, under 'components' for those two lines, write in 'universe multiverse' (without the quotes)
[03:35] <mga_mark> I wrote universe multiverse in the search after I went to view, then manage repositories. Is that right?
[03:36] <dettoaltrimenti_> not in the search mga_mark: first go to View--- Manage Repositories at the top of the screen
[03:36] <mga_mark> I'm there
[03:36] <zzzindows> Hi. anyone have a good site or name of a nice Clock for 6.06 kubuntu?
[03:36] <mga_mark> what next?
[03:37] <noiesmo> zzzindows, cairo-clock
[03:37] <faked_> okay I ran alien and it said it generated the file but I don't know where it's located or how to install it
[03:37] <zzzindows> thanks noiesmo, where can I find it? in the repository?
[03:37] <dettoaltrimenti_> there should be two greyed out lines about 25 lines down, deb and dev-src followed by some urls mga_mark
[03:37] <dettoaltrimenti_> right click on them and hit 'Enable'
[03:38] <mga_mark> I see the url's
[03:38] <dettoaltrimenti_> they should turn black- then write 'universe multiverse' in the components section of both of them.
[03:39] <dettoaltrimenti_> got it?
[03:39] <mga_mark> It's not doing anything. Is it because it's a Live Cd?
[03:39] <dettoaltrimenti_> oh. yeah probably
[03:39] <dettoaltrimenti_> why don't you go ahead and install? you can keep windows on the computer, and choose which one to boot
[03:40] <rideout> any exim experts here? it is driving me crazy
[03:41] <mga_mark> Maybe I just need to install this. Everything will come together then. Don't you think?
[03:41] <dettoaltrimenti_> yeah- let me pm you really quick
[03:49] <zzzindows> will cairo clock work on 6.06, seems it's for Edgy 6.10....
[03:51] <n-rated> what is the name of that thing the lets you use windows wireless drivers on Linux?
[03:52] <tony__> this might be lame , but i need to change the trash icon on my task bar to different icon, can anyone please tell me where this icon located ?
[03:53] <rideout> n-rated: ndiswrapper
[03:54] <Whopper> is there a program to install windows native fonts?
[03:55] <n-rated> thanks rideout
[03:57] <apokryphos> !info msttcorefonts
[03:57] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[03:57] <apokryphos> Whopper: yes
[03:58] <Whopper> thanks :P
[03:59] <dettoaltrimenti_> how do you write spaces in the terminal? like if I wanted to go to /media/sda1/Program Files, how would I write that?
[04:07] <menace> !source-o-matic
[04:07] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:07] <menace> !mp3
[04:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:09] <mga_mark> dettoaltrimenti
[04:11] <menace> !mp3
[04:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:13] <menace> ffs they changed all this mp3 stuff, wheres the link to tell you what packages to install to enable the use of MP3's and wmv's?
[04:13] <TheNameless> hi
[04:14] <jerp> hello nameless
[04:14] <menace> !mp3 codecs
[04:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp3 codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:15] <menace> !mp3codecs
[04:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp3codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:15] <menace> ffs
[04:16] <jerp> libarts1-mpeglib
[04:16] <jerp> check that one
[04:16] <menace> k thanks
[04:16] <menace> where'd you find it?
[04:16] <TheNameless> ...knows anyone how i can free a xvideo port? (sometimes my mplayer don't free the xvideo port when it's exit) i can't find anything on google
[04:16] <zzzindows> what's a good music player for kubuntu for mp3s and aac's from itunes?
[04:17] <jerp> search in adept
[04:17] <menace> zzzindows:amaroK
[04:17] <TheNameless> amarok
[04:17] <zzzindows> thanks
[04:18] <jerp> and ther is   libgmp3c2
[04:18] <jerp> there
[04:18] <zzzindows> when I put all my songs on my box, what directory should they go in or it doesn't matter?
[04:18] <Pirate-king> how do you install xchat ?
[04:19] <menace> just make a folder called "my music"
[04:19] <menace> pirate: sudo apt-get install xchat
[04:19] <Pirate-king> ok
[04:19] <jerp> sudo apt-get install xchat  (I think it needs universe enabled)
[04:19] <jerp> or multiverse
[04:20] <dettoaltrimenti_> pirate-king: you could just use the adept installer: type in 'xchat' in the search, and click install
[04:20] <Pirate-king> ok
[04:21] <jerp> mpeglib
[04:21] <TheNameless> ...ahr everywhere is only written that the video card isn't supporting xvideo, but I use xvideo, but sometimes my xvideo port isn't free...don't know anyone what i can do?
[04:22] <dettoaltrimenti_> thenameless- what language do you speak?
[04:23] <crystal> how do I switch from kde back to gnome
[04:24] <menace> !source-o-matic > menace
[04:24] <TheNameless> dettoaltrimenti_ my native language is german
[04:25] <dettoaltrimenti_> !de
[04:25] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:25] <dettoaltrimenti_> if it's better for you
[04:27] <TheNameless> (last time I was there all users was away, and that for many hours ^^)
[04:27] <dettoaltrimenti_> oh ok- so xvideo sometimes works, but sometimes does not work?
[04:27] <jerp> crystal, you can keep kde and install gnome-desktop
[04:28] <TheNameless> #dettoaltrimenti_ Yes, I think after my mplayer is crashing the xvideo port isn't free
[04:30] <jerp> and an entry for selecting gnome is added to the login interface
[04:30] <jerp> use: sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop
[04:30] <dettoaltrimenti_> TheNameless: try another video output, like x11. Most media players have an option of which output module to use in preferences
[04:33] <jerp> -environment ,,,, and then: sudo apt-get remove kde-desktop
[04:33] <TheNameless> dettoaltrimenti_: thats the problem, other outputs are slow or I couln't use fullscreen (DRI isn't support by my graphics chipset)
[04:34] <menace> !source-o-matic
[04:34] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:34] <jerp> you can comment out the dri entry
[04:34] <TheNameless> ...I thought of a command like: xvfreeport or something like thid, but i didn't find anything
[04:38] <TheNameless> oh, I find the problem, a mplayer was still running (without a window), i think one of my videos is corrupt...
[04:38] <menace> anyone know what the commands are to upgrade to edgy?
[04:40] <dettoaltrimenti_> heh there you go TheNameless
[04:43] <Pirate-king> how do you change the time in kubuntu to 12 hour time????/
[04:46] <jerp> right click on the clock and select set time format
[04:49] <jerp> and then in a terminal window you killall kicker and then kicker
[04:57] <CSonicGo> rofl, AMIGA OS 4.0 was released today
[04:57] <CSonicGo> and no hardware to run it on
[04:57] <CSonicGo> :(
[04:57] <Pirate-king> I changeed the time but still in 24 hour time
[04:58] <php-freak> !php-cli
[04:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about php-cli - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:00] <intelikey> Join to #kubuntu was synched in 65.922 secs!!   hehhe
[05:03] <jerp> pirate-king,  did you open a terminal window and entered 'killall kicker' and then 'kicker'
[05:03] <jerp> pr reboot
[05:03] <jerp> or
[05:04] <jerp> kicker panel has to be refreshed and that's the way it's done
[05:05] <intelikey> hmmm how far from earth am i if my signle has a 66 second round trip ?
[05:05] <intelikey> -:- CTCP PING reply from intelikey: 66.663 seconds
[05:07] <zach_> hey there, does anyone know how I can mount my secondary hard drive?
[05:08] <zach_> when I installed this os, it didnt make it so I can access it or my sound card...
[05:08] <stephen> can someone tell me what fonts are used in kubuntu? I've installed kdecore, but font defaults are awful.
[05:09] <intelikey> zach_ by the time you see this it may not be relevent anymore but yes.     issue the command   sudo mount /dev/<devicenode> /media/<mountpoint>
[05:09] <jerp> stephen you can add the msttfcore if you uncomment multiverse in sources
[05:10] <php-freak> hey guys what ever is in the []  is a paramenter right, and basically you don't use the [] ,.
[05:10] <jerp> or go to kde-look.org and browse their fonts
[05:10] <php-freak> cause i know in php []  whatever is inside that is considered a paramenter
[05:11] <stephen> jerp: Thanks. Then what do I change things to? Is it automatic?
[05:11] <intelikey> php-freak if it's a man page    yes.    if it's an example possably
[05:11] <jerp> go into adept and install them
[05:11] <php-freak> okay
[05:11] <stephen> I've got them
[05:12] <php-freak> whats apt-get stand for? and sudo?
[05:12] <jerp> sudo is temp root permission
[05:12] <php-freak> i mean is sudo a abbreviation for something
[05:12] <php-freak> k
[05:12] <intelikey> php-freak bash uses  []   to expand regexp
[05:12] <php-freak> i see
[05:12] <stephen> standard font is still san serif. What should I change it to?
[05:12] <jerp> apt-get is an installer
[05:12] <php-freak> I'm getting more famaliar with this stuff guys, so give me a break, but so far I love *nix os
[05:12] <jerp> terminal style
[05:12] <php-freak> I think I might go straght cli style
[05:13] <stephen> advanced package tool. SuperUser Do
[05:13] <php-freak> k cool
[05:13] <stephen> what is your 'standard font' please?
[05:14] <stephen> jerp: ?
[05:14] <intelikey> example of using []  ;  grep -e [A-z]  file.name       <<< that would expand to any letter upper or lower case  and thus match any line in "file.name" that has a letter in it.
[05:14] <jerp> my general font is kedage12
[05:15] <jerp> fixed is monospace10
[05:15] <towync> hi i have some questions about beryl, i know this isn't standard channel for it but i was hoping these are quick questions
[05:15] <towync> anyways, what does beryl look like after u start it
[05:15] <jerp> toolbar is san serif10
[05:15] <stephen> thanks, hmmm, I don't seem to have kedage12.
[05:15] <towync> cuz when i just installed + started mine
[05:16] <towync> i can't move windows around
[05:16] <towync> is that what it's supposed to do?
[05:16] <jerp> menu is mallige11
[05:16] <intelikey> i thought kde defaulted to sans
[05:16] <towync> tsk, anyone using beryl right now?
[05:16] <jerp> window title is san serif10
[05:17] <jerp> taskbar is san serif10
[05:17] <intelikey> san serif10 ?
[05:17] <dehvokahn> evening guys
[05:17] <intelikey> that would be tiny.
[05:17] <towync> do u use beryl?
[05:17] <jerp> desktop is mgopen modern 12
[05:18] <jerp> intelikey, hey it works
[05:18] <^V^> Hi, how do I find out what the default 'serif' and 'sans serif' font is set to and how would I change it?
[05:19] <intelikey> jerp don't work for me.  sorry.
[05:19] <jerp> intelikey: I have that block that appears on hover
[05:19] <dehvokahn> could someone help me figure out where a missing 11GB of space went?
[05:19] <intelikey> hmmm
[05:19] <dehvokahn> I did a simple copy from one 160GB HD to another, and there was 91GB free on the first and there's only 80GB free on the second
[05:20] <jerp> okie doke, np differnt strokes/different folks
[05:20] <dehvokahn> on two different HDs, that is
[05:20] <intelikey> ^V^ try running kcontrol
[05:20] <stephen> jerp: Thanks, but I don't seem to have some of those. Are they the defaults?
[05:21] <jerp> stephen, honestly I forget  I've added several I know
[05:21] <intelikey> dehvokahn hard links and symbolic links copy as the target file if not using -a or other switches to prevent that.
[05:22] <stephen> hmmm. Anyone with a default installation about?
[05:22] <Pirate-king> why?
[05:22] <jerp> !fonts | stephen
[05:22] <ubotu> stephen: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[05:23] <dehvokahn> intelikey, ah, crap...that makes sense - thank you!  I couldn't figure out where all that space went
[05:24] <intelikey> dehvokahn yeah i've done that too.
[05:24] <intelikey> dehvokahn that's one place tar comes in real handy
[05:24] <jerp> pirate-kingdid you get your kicker panel refreshed ?
[05:25] <dehvokahn> intelikey, is there a different command that can be used to copy large amounts of data to prevent things like this then?
[05:26] <dehvokahn> intelikey, i have a lot of room to play - i'm just backing up an old NTFS drive to a new external, so i have no qualms about wiping the external out again to start over if it would free up space
[05:26] <^V^> intelikey: what part of kcontrol? I see that kde sets all of the fonts to be sans serif but what _is_ the sans serif font actually set to?
[05:26] <intelikey> dehvokahn yes  tar is good   also man cp   there are switches.
[05:26] <dehvokahn> intelikey, excellent - thanks so much for the help
[05:27] <intelikey> ^V^ the look and feel   fonts   and select adjust all  size     you don't have to change them to view them.
[05:27] <Pupeno> Hello.
[05:27] <Pupeno> Any recomendation on spam filtering software that works well with kmail ? I've used bogofilter for months but a couple of days ago it stoped working.
[05:28] <intelikey> well later folks.  i'm snoring  so i might as well go to bed.
[05:30] <^V^> intelikey: I understand that I can change the fonts, but I'm trying to see what the sans-serif font really is. AFAIK, sans serif is not an actual font but is set to a certain font on the system. It might be dejavu, bitstream or something entirely different...
[05:30] <jerp> I would like to be able to change the font color on the taskbar windowlist entrants
[05:45] <nuxil_> ehy is konqueror patch like thta i cant see my sytem dir ?
[05:45] <nuxil_> *why
[05:46] <nuxil_> manybe you shoould juat add an option in the menu fracks
[05:46] <nuxil_> K\
[05:47] <Pirate-king> has anybody used putty?
[05:51] <Dr_willis> all the time.
[05:51] <Dr_willis> its proberly the most commonly used ssh client for windows.
[05:51] <Pirate-king> yeah Ive used it in windows too
[05:51] <Pirate-king> but now runni ng linux
[05:52] <Pirate-king> and want to control vdr box from a linux machine
[05:53] <Dr_willis> putty is a ssh/telnet client.. same as 'ssh' and err.. 'telnet' :)  so the problem is?
[05:53] <Pirate-king> how do you install it in linux?
[05:54] <Dr_willis> You dont need to
[05:55] <Dr_willis> the 'ssh' client is allready there
[05:55] <Dr_willis> putty is a ssh client that runs under windows.
[05:55] <Dr_willis> and some extra tools for windows
[05:55] <Dr_willis> !ssh
[05:55] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[05:55] <Pirate-king> ok
[05:56] <towync> hey room, how do i start the 3d thing in beryl
[05:56] <towync> i get to start beryl fine (thank god) but i don't know how to start rotating my screen
[05:56] <Dr_willis> drag a window to the edge of the screen perhaps?
[06:01] <towync> lol i'll try that
[06:02] <Dr_willis> read up on  beryl theres a ga-zillion+1 settings and things to play with.. befor you get sick of it and remove it.
[06:02] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:02] <Dr_willis> I like the  'use flames to destroy a window when you close it'
[06:02] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:02] <towync> i finally got it working so it'd take awhile for me to get bored of it =)
[06:02] <Dr_willis> I just used it with a live cd.. for testing..
[06:02] <Dr_willis> then got back to real work
[06:02] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:02] <towync> cool lol
[06:03] <towync> what's the latest beryl version
[06:03] <Dr_willis> I forget the distro i tested it with..
[06:03] <towync> mine is 0.1.4
[06:03] <Dr_willis> No idea.
[06:03] <Dr_willis> !info beryl
[06:03] <towync> cool
[06:03] <towync> !beryl
[06:03] <Dr_willis> theres proberly a new update every other day
[06:03] <ubotu> Package beryl does not exist in any distro I know
[06:03] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[06:03] <towync> o dragging window to border doesn't get me 3d
[06:03] <towync> is there some option i'm supposed to check in beryl manager?
[06:04] <Dr_willis> No idea.. i dont use it.. time to check the guides.
[06:04] <towync> i could google, but just thought i'd ask, see if i get to save time lol
[06:04] <towync> kk
[06:04] <menace> what are the codecs needed to be able to view .wmv's and mpegs and play mp3's...etc...
[06:05] <Dr_willis> the KUBUNTU homepage/faq details the packages needed for mp3 playback and ussage in specific progrms.
[06:05] <Dr_willis> for video files theres the w32codec packages
[06:05] <Dr_willis> !w32codec
[06:05] <menace> thanks
[06:05] <Dr_willis> bot is dead? :(
[06:05] <menace> lol
[06:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w32codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:06] <menace> !w32codecs
[06:06] <Dr_willis> thers a ubuntu wiki page on it. i normally get the codeec packages from the mplayer homepage.
[06:06] <menace> k
[06:06] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:06] <Dr_willis> DONT expect every .wmv file to play :)
[06:06] <menace> yeh that blows
[06:06] <menace> i had all this working before i messed up my harddrives
[06:06] <Dr_willis> no.. what blows is the idiotic use of codecs that you find in .wmvs :)
[06:07] <menace> lol true
[06:07] <menace> i heard xubuntu comes with all this
[06:07] <menace> i wanna switch distros, not sure which though
[06:07] <Dr_willis> Nope it dont as far as i know..
[06:07] <Dr_willis> but that "Linux Mint" does. :)
[06:07] <Dr_willis> its Ubuntu + stuff
[06:07] <menace> cool
[06:07] <Dr_willis> but from a legal point of view... its on shakey ground.
[06:07] <Dr_willis> heh heh
[06:07] <menace> lol
[06:09] <Dr_willis> set up the right repos - and the stuff is rather trivial to install anyway
[06:12] <menace> yeah i did source-o-matic
[06:13] <menace> when iinstall something like firefox, the icon doesnt show up in the menu...wtf...
[06:13] <Dr_willis> It should.. theres some command that can reforce the menus to get reread.. or just log out
[06:14] <Dr_willis> i always make a launcher for it on the panel anyway
[06:15] <smoothies> lol i like my screen name
[06:15] <smoothies> anyways, how do i get glxgears to output me information about framerates?
[06:16] <Dr_willis> some silly --showfps or some option
[06:16] <smoothies> i tried glxgreas -info, but all that does was output a bunch of gibberish and runs the gear animation
[06:16] <smoothies> i'll try showfps
[06:17] <Dr_willis> Guess the programer was so annoyed with everyone useing it as a benchmark.. :) so he disabled the default option to show fps
[06:18] <smoothies> yeah i just found it's glxgears -printfps
[06:18] <Dr_willis> i think it used to be --iacknodoldgethisisnotabenchmark
[06:18] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:18] <smoothies> what...lol
[06:19] <smoothies> why is there a humming sound from my tower when i do glxgears
[06:19] <Dr_willis> it dosent know the words?
[06:19] <smoothies> is that bad for my graphics card
[06:19] <smoothies> it shows i have almost 7k fps
[06:19] <smoothies> that's the output, just repeating over and over again every 5 second like it's supposed to
[06:20] <Dr_willis> cover the window up with another window...
[06:20] <Dr_willis> it will go up a few 10000%
[06:20] <Dr_willis> ;)
[06:20] <unix_infidel> anyone know of a fast way to terminal all screen sessions in a given tty
[06:20] <smoothies> lol that was fun to do
[06:21] <smoothies> i hear a higher pitched sizzling noise from my tower when i do that
[06:21] <Dr_willis> cool.
[06:21] <Dr_willis> run it 100 times..
[06:21] <smoothies> why is there the noise tho
[06:21] <Dr_willis> no idea..
[06:21] <Dr_willis> interfearance with the sound card/wires?
[06:22] <JOSF> What do I need to get my GeForce2GTS supported nativley ba nvidia drivers in 6.10 ?
[06:22] <smoothies> i have no idea, doesn't seem to be a problem i'll ignore it as long as i can
[06:22] <JOSF> I wanted to use EasyUbuntu but since I am on a bad 56k line downloads often stall and do not resume (makeing EasyUbuntu freeze)
[06:23] <Dr_willis> What is with these 'cute' little lunch box's all the  people eat in japanime -
[06:23] <smoothies> =)
[06:24] <Dr_willis> and some sort of ball of rice wrapped with  some paper.
[06:24] <smoothies> i think that was inapporpriate of me to say, sorry =)
[06:24] <tony__> is there any movie editing program for linux ????
[06:24] <Dr_willis> !info kino
[06:25] <ubotu> kino: Non-linear editor for Digital Video data. In component main, is extra. Version 0.90-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1093 kB, installed size 3860 kB
[06:25] <tony__> thanks DR..
[06:25] <Dr_willis> there may be others.. i recall one other. but forget the name..
[06:25] <Dr_willis> never did have much luck with either of them
[06:26] <tony__> lol. in what sence you had no luck ?
[06:26] <tony__> installing the program or working with it ?
[06:26] <Dr_willis> I recall i couldent impiort the videos i wanted.
[06:26] <tony__> i see
[06:26] <fowlduck> Gerald Ford died today at 93
[06:26] <Dr_willis> I just wanted to cut some avi's into smaller ones.
[06:27] <slougi> there's also cinerella, or however it is called
[06:27] <tony__> i have programs on my window xp, but i like to get the tools i need before switching totaly to linux
[06:27] <slougi> I used it for some school project years ago
[06:27] <slougi> the gui was weird but it seemed pretty powerful
[06:27] <Dr_willis> 'everything i know about japan - i learned from anime' :)
[06:27] <tony__> thanks guys
[06:28] <Dr_willis> every house has  a real low table.. and they sit on pillows..  :) and they always got a rice cooker.
[06:28] <smoothies> yup well no one really knows about the glxgears noise on google either i guess
[06:28] <smoothies> but it didn't seem like a big problem
[06:28] <slougi> glxgears noise?
[06:28] <smoothies> like there's a high pitched humming sound when i play glxgears
[06:28] <smoothies> it's coming from the computer tower, but it's not that loud
[06:29] <smoothies> just annoying
[06:29] <slougi> can be a number of things. sure it's not from the speakers?
[06:29] <Dr_willis> interfearance affectung the speaker/soundcard..
[06:29] <smoothies> the speaker isn't plugged in =)
[06:29] <slougi> that would be most likely.
[06:29] <slougi> right, then it's probably just something in the PSU
[06:30] <smoothies> cool =)
[06:30] <slougi> I wouldn't worry about it unless the system becomes unstable under 3d load
[06:30] <Dr_willis> Mice.
[06:30] <smoothies> it's only when i do glxgears
[06:30] <slougi> but that's just me
[06:30] <slougi> *shrug*
[06:30] <slougi> I guess it's fine as long as it doesn't catch fire ;)
[06:31] <smoothies> lol
[06:31] <Dr_willis> or explode killing everyone in a 4 block radius
[06:31] <smoothies> lol
[06:31] <smoothies> i will fix it when that happens
[06:31] <smoothies> wait..
[06:31] <smoothies> anyways =)
[06:31] <slougi> hmm
[06:32] <Dr_willis> I hate when that happens..
[06:32] <smoothies> what does sync to vblank mean
[06:32] <slougi> draw on vertical retrace
[06:32] <smoothies> ic
[06:32] <slougi> basically, if you have, say, a 60 hz refresh rate, redraw 60 times a second
[06:32] <smoothies> cool
[06:33] <slougi> theoretically it gives better image quality by avoiding tearing, but it might be slower
[06:33] <Dr_willis> which means having 200000000+FPS video card... is... sort of pointless. :)
[06:33] <slougi> google it up
[06:33] <smoothies> cool, yeah will do, thx =)
[06:34] <slougi> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vsync
[06:34] <php-freak> is there any better text editors then gedit?
[06:34] <smoothies> slougi thx
[06:34] <slougi> that's a good explanation, but not all that easy to grok maybe
[06:34] <slougi> try kate
[06:34] <php-freak> everytime I copy something out of there, I cna't go to my other file, and copy
[06:34] <slougi> kate kicks ass
[06:34] <fowlduck> kate is really nice
[06:34] <fowlduck> jEdit is decent too
[06:35] <slougi> yup, scite is pretty decent too, and nedit
[06:35] <fowlduck> textmate if you have a mac :)
[06:35] <slougi> still prefer kate to all of them
[06:35] <Dr_willis> i like fte
[06:35] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:35] <Dr_willis> but it pays to learn vi
[06:35] <fowlduck> nvm
[06:35] <slougi> vim <3
[06:35] <slougi> I never really groked emacs
[06:36] <slougi> not saying it's a bad editor though
[06:36] <fowlduck> yeah, it and vi are great if you have the time and patience to learn them
[06:36] <Dr_willis> vimtutor
[06:36] <Dr_willis> just 'learn' it. :)
[06:36] <fowlduck> they can down the road save you gobs of time
[06:36] <php-freak> http://pastebin.ca/293107 look all all these errors i get guys :(
[06:36] <fowlduck> Dr_willis: vim tutor?
[06:37] <Dr_willis> !info vitutor
[06:37] <ubotu> Package vitutor does not exist in any distro I know
[06:37] <fowlduck> !info vimtutor
[06:37] <tony__> i downloaded cinerrela is source files.. do you knwo where i can find toturials on how to install source files ?
[06:37] <Dr_willis> the homepage? :)_
[06:37] <Dr_willis> Untar it, ./configure, make, make install
[06:37] <slougi> php-freak: are you trying to run these as a different user?
[06:37] <php-freak> this sucks even when i copy out of paste, then open another file in the terminal i can' paste it :9
[06:37] <tony__> one moment
[06:37] <ubotu> Package vimtutor does not exist in any distro I know
[06:37] <Dr_willis> !info cinerela
[06:37] <php-freak> no just run them as sudo
[06:37] <Dr_willis> !find tutor
[06:38] <php-freak> im logged in under my mian name
[06:38] <tony__> http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php3
[06:38] <tony__> this looks very nice app for movie editting
[06:38] <slougi> try running them with kdesu
[06:38] <ubotu> Package cinerela does not exist in any distro I know
[06:39] <ubotu> Found: python-gtk2-tutorial, gmt-tutorial, gmt-tutorial-pdf, gmt-tutorial-ps, gnustep-tutorial-html (and 5 others)
[06:39] <slougi> vimtutor is part of vim I believe
[06:39] <slougi> at least I seem to have it on my system
[06:39] <fowlduck> I went through vimtutor before
[06:39] <tony__> i think i have to use Make command. and i have no clue on how about using stuff like this
[06:39] <fowlduck> it gets you started, but there is so much more to vim than what the tutor teaches you
[06:40] <slougi> tony__: hold on, I'll have a quick look
[06:41] <pwn4tt4ck> what codec do I need to view .avi files?
[06:41] <fowlduck> I'd like to see a more interactive vimtutor
[06:41] <Hobbsee> fowlduck: what, the manpage?
[06:41] <fowlduck> Hobbsee: ??
[06:42] <Hobbsee> [16:41]  <fowlduck> I'd like to see a more interactive vimtutor
[06:42] <Hobbsee> oh wait, you said interactive
[06:42] <fowlduck> yes ma'am
[06:42] <smoothies> hey in beryl, if i only have 1 desktop, it means i can't get the cube going right, i mean that would be obvious right, no, i'm confused =)
[06:43] <slougi> tony__: there seems to be a package here: http://www.kiberpipa.org/~muzzol/cinelerra/bin/
[06:43] <slougi> be warned though, I do not know how well it works
[06:43] <tony__> so do i
[06:43] <tony__> :D
[06:43] <slougi> but it was linked from the cinelerra site
[06:44] <slougi> anyway, need to leave for a bit
[06:45] <slougi> ->
[06:45] <tony__> i should realy learn on how to use source to compile :) ..
[06:45] <tony__> package is in dep so i guess i can use that to install on kubuntu ?
[06:45] <Dr_willis> perhaps.
[06:45] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:45] <tony__> :|
[06:45] <slougi> yeah it was a ubuntu package
[06:45] <Dr_willis> depends on the disrto it was made for. was it in the repos?
[06:45] <tony__> DR you scare me all the time
[06:45] <Dr_willis> heh.
[06:45] <tony__> no
[06:45] <Dr_willis> the bot dident find it a little bit ago.
[06:46] <tony__> i just downloaded from the original site
[06:46] <tony__> so what happens if this is not compatible with kubuntu during installation ?
[06:46] <Dr_willis> egads!
[06:46] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:47] <JOSF> What do I need to get my GeForce2GTS supported nativley ba nvidia drivers in 6.10 ?
[06:47] <Dr_willis> worse case? System explodes...
[06:47] <JOSF> I wanted to use EasyUbuntu but since I am on a bad 56k line downloads often stall and do not resume (makeing EasyUbuntu freeze)
[06:47] <tony__> lol
[06:47] <pwn4tt4ck> How do I play AVIs in Kaffeen!?
[06:47] <Dr_willis> Best to not use EasyYbuntu at all
[06:47] <Dr_willis> !nvidia
[06:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:48] <tony__> ehhhh, that packaage is password protected
[06:49] <Dr_willis> huh?
[06:49] <tony__> it askes for password
[06:49] <tony__> lol
[06:49] <fowlduck> probably needs your password to install, it's gksudo
[06:49] <fowlduck> or kdesu
[06:49] <fowlduck> or whatever
[06:49] <tony__> i uused kubuntu package manager to install
[06:50] <Dr_willis> Kubuntu 101.. :)
[06:50] <fowlduck> gah, i'm not even in linux :/  (osx ftw)
[06:50] <Dr_willis> You need to enter your 'sudo' users password to do stuff like that. :)
[06:50] <tony__> i did
[06:50] <Dr_willis> do it 10000 times :)
[06:51] <tony__> when i lunched the package installer , it asked me for pass . i did enter . but was rejected
[06:51] <tony__> lol
[06:51] <fowlduck> or until your fingers start bleeding
[06:51] <tony__> 'im sure is correct pass
[06:51] <Dr_willis> use the shell.. perhaps
[06:51] <fowlduck> sudo dpkg -i package_name.deb
[06:51] <tony__> thats too advance for me . .
[06:51] <Dr_willis> just USE it..
[06:52] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:52] <tony__> do i have to navigate to that directory first to use that comand ?
[06:52] <fowlduck> yes
[06:52] <Dr_willis> of course
[06:52] <Dr_willis> or give the full path
[06:52] <fowlduck> or you could do the full....what dr said
[06:52] <tony__> hold on please
[06:54] <knapp> What program is recommended for making DVD Video compilations?
[06:54] <Dr_willis> that can take a bit of work and use of various tools.. :)
[06:54] <fowlduck> iMovie ;)
[06:54] <Dr_willis> that 'Ubuntu Hacks' book had a chapter on it.
[06:55] <tony__> error processing the pacakge ,, can not access archive
[06:56] <fowlduck> tony__: pastebin the exact command you types along with the error.  Also type the command ls and paste the results of that
[06:56] <tony__> i did download the source though .. it has makefile .. which i think somehow , i have to use that . :)  :S
[06:56] <fowlduck> heh
[06:56] <Dr_willis> egads..
[06:57] <tony__> thanks for the help . i guess i be back tomorrow for some brain teaser :P
[06:57] <fowlduck> dpkg -i package.deb only works with debian binary packages (that I know of)
[06:57] <tony__> it is dep
[06:57] <Dr_willis> its what?
[06:58] <tony__> pacakge name is , cinelerra_2.1.0-2svn20061104_i386.dep
[06:58] <tony__> you think would make sence to make the name shorter ???
[06:58] <Dr_willis> I think somthing is totally confused here.
[06:58] <tony__> that me
[06:58] <tony__> :)
[06:59] <Dr_willis> how big is that file?
[06:59] <dettoaltrimenti> how do you make a new user in the terminal?
[06:59] <tony__> 17 meg
[06:59] <Dr_willis> sudo adduser bubba
[06:59] <tony__> source is 30 meg
[06:59] <velle> how do I check if a package is already installed on my ubuntu? i think it is dkpg -foo bar ... ?
[06:59] <JOSF> Dr_willis: thanks
[07:00] <computer> what is the super (windows key) when people talk about beryl?
[07:01] <Dr_willis> if you  "sudo adduser billgates"  your pc will explode.
[07:01] <tony__> will crash for sure
[07:01] <Dr_willis> the key with the windows logo on it. :)
[07:01] <Dr_willis> and. NO my keyboard does not have one....
[07:01] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:01] <computer> o, but it doesn't do anything for me tho, do i first have to bind it?
[07:02] <computer> would you not have a super key then? is there an alternative
[07:02] <Dr_willis> beryl had a tool to configure all the key bindings..
[07:02] <computer> time to go exploring for me lol
[07:03] <adaptr> computer: super is bound to the winkey by system default
[07:03] <tony__> time to sleep for me :) .. thanks DR willis.. see you tomorrow :)
[07:03] <computer> adaptr cool thx =)
[07:04] <pwn4tt4ck> I still dont know how to run .avi files
[07:04] <Dr_willis> run?
[07:04] <computer> does windows vista have more features as far as 3d desktop goes
[07:04] <Dr_willis> computer,  i doubt it.
[07:04] <pwn4tt4ck> dr_willis: yeah play avi movies on linux
[07:04] <computer> cool
[07:04] <Dr_willis> theres so muych stuff in beryl its scary
[07:04] <pwn4tt4ck> kaffeen wont do it
[07:04] <computer> lol
[07:04] <tony__> you can install VLC ..
[07:05] <tony__> is part of repo
[07:05] <Dr_willis> install the right video codecs, and/or try vlc,xine,mplayer, totem, ect...
[07:05] <tony__> will play everythying for you
[07:05] <fowlduck> computer: it has some direct3d rendering of the desktop for some visual effects, but nothing like beryl or osx.
[07:05] <pwn4tt4ck> tony_: how do I isntall vlc?
[07:05] <Dr_willis> !info vlc
[07:05] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB
[07:05] <fowlduck> computer: i have a VM of it right now.  It's really ugly and doesn't really offer anything over XP....but XP was ugly too, it's just less ugly
[07:05] <tony__> use your adept manager ..
[07:05] <pwn4tt4ck> I dont know the command lines yet, I is a noob
[07:06] <fowlduck> pwn4tt4ck: perfect time to learn it
[07:06] <velle> how do I check if a package is already installed on my ubuntu?
[07:06] <tony__> go to system , adept manager
[07:06] <Dr_willis> enable universe repo. and search/install it in ya package manager
[07:06] <tony__> there type VLC
[07:06] <fowlduck> velle: dpkg -l | grep package_name
[07:06] <fowlduck> velle: or dpkg -L
[07:06] <fowlduck> velle: can't remember
[07:06] <computer> fowlduck cool thx for the info =)
[07:06] <fowlduck> computer: no problem.
[07:06] <pwn4tt4ck> tony_: thank you
[07:07] <tony__> im new too, this is how i usually install my stuff :)
[07:07] <fowlduck> computer: it struggles to render the 3d-effects in vmware fusion, actually, so I hope your PC is decent if you plan on installing
[07:07] <tony__> coooooooooooool
[07:07] <velle> fowlduck: thanks
[07:07] <fowlduck> velle: np :)
[07:07] <tony__> i want to install that too , but im toooooooooooooooo scraed
[07:08] <tony__> scared
[07:08] <fowlduck> lol, beryl and the like is pretty for about 5 minutes...then it's annoying and interferes with work
[07:08] <computer> Dr_willis what are u using
[07:09] <tony__> shell i belive
[07:09] <computer> Dr_willis i got loads of free time in winter break i might as well try stuff
[07:09] <tony__> :)
[07:10] <fowlduck> computer: you can do some work for me for free, great! :)
[07:10] <computer> fowlduck lol like programming, i could try haha
[07:10] <computer> lol
[07:18] <inteliwasp> anyone awake at this hour?
[07:18] <computer> how do i stary beryl on start up?
[07:18] <computer> it's only 10pm here
[07:19] <computer> but considering how much beer i've had =)
[07:19] <inteliwasp> i just looking for someone who can read german and can compile
[07:21] <Dr_willis> Nein!
[07:21] <Dr_willis> Struddle!
[07:21] <Dr_willis> Brawtwurst!
[07:21] <VR_> whatchu talkin 'bout willis
[07:22] <fowlduck> Saurkraut!
[07:22] <inteliwasp> i found this intresting program that can turn a palm pilot into a status display, but it's in german and i'm not sure how to use it.
[07:22] <Dr_willis> heh
[07:23] <fowlduck> is there an ubuntu-de channel?
[07:23] <Dr_willis> !de
[07:23] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:23] <computer> !en
[07:23] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[07:23] <fowlduck> !xv
[07:23] <computer> !jp
[07:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:23] <ubotu>  #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp 
[07:23] <computer> !cn
[07:23] <fowlduck> hahahaha, jk
[07:23] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[07:23] <Dr_willis> !xxx
[07:23] <computer> !kr
[07:24] <fowlduck> !????
[07:24] <VR_> !hr
[07:24] <velle> !dk
[07:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xxx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:24] <computer> !abuse
[07:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:24] <ubotu> za hrvatski dodjite na #ubuntu-hr, da ne zbunjujete engleze.
[07:24] <ubotu> For at f support til Ubuntu p Dansk bedes du venligst g til #ubuntu-dk. I denne kanal tales kun Engelsk.
[07:24] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:24] <inteliwasp> poor ubotu, taking all this abuse.... :P
[07:24] <CSonicGo> haha
[07:25] <fowlduck> !inteliwasp
[07:25] <inteliwasp> uh oh
[07:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inteliwasp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:25] <fowlduck> you're lucky
[07:25] <velle> i actually think this is funny, maybe because of all the coffee :)
[07:25] <fowlduck> next time he gets out the probes
[07:26] <CSonicGo> :O
[07:26] <computer> why would beryl interfere with work
[07:26] <computer> doesn't it help by sort of increasing ur desktop workspace?
[07:26] <fowlduck> wait until a bug screws up the windowing
[07:27] <computer> how, as in a future version of beryl that i'd update to would have broken windowing?
[07:27] <fowlduck> and having multiple desktops is nothing new
[07:27] <fowlduck> this just makes it prettier
[07:27] <computer> yeah easier to switch then clicking i guess
[07:27] <fowlduck> you can use your keyboard to switch without beryl
[07:27] <computer> o, didn't know that =)
[07:28] <fowlduck> now the expos? like feature is nice
[07:28] <computer> sorry, what do u mean expos
[07:28] <VR_> expose
[07:28] <VR_> like in os x
[07:28] <computer> o
[07:28] <velle> computer: generally there is supposed to be a keyboard shortcut for everything in both kde and gnome
[07:28] <fowlduck> hmm, can't see the e? :)
[07:28] <Dr_willis> i just keep stuff fullscreened and alt-tab
[07:28] <fowlduck> ?
[07:28] <fowlduck> ???
[07:29] <computer> velle ic thx
[07:29] <fowlduck> Dr_willis: expose is nicer than it sounds, but as with most things it's a matter of taste
[07:29] <computer> btw sort of off current topic, does kxdocker work in edgy?
[07:29] <computer> i installed it once last time, it didn't really work
[07:30] <Dr_willis> night all...
[07:30] <computer> but last time beryl didn't work either, i'm thinking of reinstalling kxdocker, so wanted to know before i go ahead
[07:30] <computer> night willis
[07:30] <fowlduck> i've had nothing but trouble with makind kde look like osx
[07:30] <fowlduck> g'nite willy
[07:30] <velle> but often they are not very obvious (especially for win users) - i hate using mouse, and windows was actually better at supplying all the keyboard shortcuts needed, in linux there are lots of _small_ but irritating flaws regarding this
[07:31] <computer> what steps do i take to get rid of the bottom panel bar, not just hide it but get rid of it and use a docker instead
[07:31] <fowlduck> velle: most can be changed with the right know-how, but that sometimes is the problem
[07:32] <fowlduck> velle: people shouldn't have to have the 'right know-how'
[07:32] <fowlduck> computer: wow, good question
[07:32] <computer> fowlduck sorry, didn't mean to ask a newbie question, i'll try google too =)
[07:33] <fowlduck> computer: i meant no sarcasm, I really think it's a good question
[07:33] <computer> fowlduck oh okies =) i'll report usefull stuff i find
[07:34] <velle> fowlduck: i agree, but the unix developers (mostly volunteers) has enough concerns already, and they dont really bother because they are like lightning in a terminal, and do all the work from there
[07:34] <menace> what are the commands to upgrade from dapper to edgy?
[07:34] <fowlduck> velle: have you read the halloween letter?
[07:34] <fowlduck> menace: google it, it's well documented, and there are some HUGE gotchas
[07:35] <velle> fowlduck:  no, what is that?
[07:35] <fowlduck> velle: let me link you.
[07:35] <fowlduck> velle: http://www.catb.org/~esr/halloween/index.html
[07:36] <fowlduck> velle: read what Microsoft calls the weakness of Linux's desktop and the commentators' remarks on this
[07:37] <menace> what do you mean by gotchas?
[07:37] <fowlduck> menace: meaning little things to look out for that can trip you up
[07:39] <fowlduck> velle: http://www.catb.org/~esr/halloween/halloween1.html#_Toc427495749
[07:40] <velle> a small thing that really bothers me: when using firefox with flash plugin, i scroll using up/down and pgup/pgdown, but the mouse ends up on top of a flash applet all keyboard shortcuts stop working, except alt f4
[07:40] <velle> fowlduck: i ll read it now
[07:41] <fowlduck> velle: that may be a 'feature' not a 'bug'
[07:41] <Linux_Galore> velle: what plugin are we talking about
[07:41] <Linux_Galore> sorry version of the plugin
[07:42] <velle> im not saying it is a bug (unintended) but FOR SURE it must bother all people that is avoiding the mouse
[07:42] <Linux_Galore> Ive found if the machine is under resources and you run flash in Firefox 2.0 things get laggy for a bit
[07:43] <Linux_Galore> resourced*
[07:43] <fowlduck> velle: move your mouse to the screen edge? ;)
[07:43] <Linux_Galore> my P4 3Ghz machine is fine with flash but my old P3 goes all weird when flash loads for a while
[07:44] <computer> would feisty be kde4?
[07:44] <lupine_85> !info kdebase feisty
[07:45] <ubotu> kdebase: base components from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-1ubuntu11 (feisty), package size 48 kB, installed size 92 kB
[07:45] <Linux_Galore> computer: not really, kde 4.0 still doesnt actaully exist
[07:45] <lupine_85> "no"
[07:45] <computer> cool thx everyone
[07:45] <velle> fowlduck: that is what i do :) but imagine if your mouse is not even connected. I use mouse for only one thing: clicking links, the scrolling, and the backward, tab stuff, is all done by keyboard, so i always "forget" the mouse inside.... it might be small, but really... i "fingerkick" the mouse sometimes :)
[07:45] <Linux_Galore> computer: they call the "yet to be released" version of kde 4.0  kde 3.8.2
[07:46] <Linux_Galore> computer: very buggy though
[07:46] <velle> Linux_Galore: sorry, it takes a sec for me to find out :)
[07:46] <unix_infidel> Linux_Galore: that's because flash has always relied on fast processors to manage content.
[07:46] <computer> Linux_Galore ic
[07:46] <computer> Linux_Galore thx
[07:46] <unix_infidel> its a trade off, less bandwidth intensive compared to other protocols but more cpu intensive...
[07:47] <unix_infidel> its never touted itself to be a lean mean content providing machine.
[07:47] <fowlduck> velle: i use a mouse, but I don't use linux as my desktop so I don't run into the same issues with mousing
[07:47] <computer> what's the difference b/w adept manager and synaptic, this morning i think some people helping me was saying synaptic is safer and gives more control, could someone ellaborate a little bit =) thx
[07:47] <Linux_Galore> computer: if you go to kubuntu.org  there is some details on installing kde 4.0 and instructions so you can swap back to the normal (stable) version at any time and you only need dapper installed
[07:48] <fowlduck> computer: synaptic is arguably better, but adept uses Qt for its interface, I believe
[07:48] <Linux_Galore> computer: the install doesnt remove the old version of kde
[07:48] <computer> Linux_Galore cool, i'll prolly not try that out later tho, i've just had beryl working just now i think i'll play safe and not do big modifications =)
[07:48] <fowlduck> computer: synaptic uses GTK (2 I believe) for its interface
[07:49] <computer> ic, so i can just stick with synaptic now that i've installed it on kubuntu right, i wouldn't be missing anything?
[07:49] <pwn4tt4ck> my friend tells me its not safe to enter a chat and idle without this: /mode pwn4tt4ck +x
[07:49] <pwn4tt4ck> is that true?
[07:49] <Linux_Galore> computer: the packages doesnt actually modify your old install, just allows you to add the kde4 desktop to your login menu
[07:49] <pwn4tt4ck> he says that +x will hide my IP
[07:50] <fowlduck> wow, that sounds like lies to me
[07:50] <computer> Linux_Galore o ic, i'll look that up then
[07:50] <fowlduck> but I dunno about it
[07:50] <pwn4tt4ck> see, I think so too
[07:50] <pwn4tt4ck> cause isnt it Read Write eXecute?
[07:50] <pwn4tt4ck> :\
[07:50] <fowlduck> it's an IRC setting, so who knows
[07:51] <fowlduck> computer: I used synaptic when I was in KDE, I like it better than adept, and adept messes up if you have to input something on the command line while the package is installing
[07:51] <velle> Linux_Galore: im looking, i thought i would find it in Firefox -> Tools -> Extensions, but there I only find English Language Pack - shouldnt flash be in that list?
[07:52] <computer> fowlduck cool, what about automatic updates
[07:52] <Linux_Galore> velle: flash isnt an extension its a plugin
[07:52] <pixelsquid> Hello
[07:52] <computer> fowlduck would synatpic do automatic updates for me?
[07:52] <Linux_Galore> velle: you should see it in your ~/.mozilla/plugins/  directory,  not hard to miss
[07:53] <Linux_Galore> velle: its a single file
[07:53] <fowlduck> computer: no, it won't
[07:53] <computer> fowlduck only adept does it?
[07:53] <fowlduck> computer: but I don't trust automatic updates, tbh
[07:53] <Linux_Galore> velle:  should show a file called ibflashplayer.so*
[07:53] <fowlduck> computer: no, there's some little applet that does it for gnome, called update-manager
[07:53] <computer> fowlduck cuz last time when some part of adept was trying to do auto update, it crashed/froze when trying to install something java run related
[07:53] <pixelsquid> Isn't aptitude better?
[07:54] <Linux_Galore> velle:  oops libflashplayer.so*
[07:54] <fowlduck> computer: so synaptic isn't involved
[07:54] <computer> fowlduck so kubuntu only has adept handling the updates right
[07:54] <computer> fowlduck lets hope i won't run into update problems this time =)
[07:55] <fowlduck> computer: yes, that's right, iirc
[07:55] <fowlduck> pixelsquid: it's a matter of taste, but some prefer a non-cli app for managing packages
[07:56] <Linux_Galore> police helicopter hovering over my place
[07:56] <computer> dun dun dun
[07:56] <Linux_Galore> noisy bastard
[07:56] <pixelsquid> Yes
[07:56] <pixelsquid> It seems less buggy, and you really only need 3 commands
[07:56] <Linux_Galore> quick throw the drugs in the toilet
[07:56] <Linux_Galore> :-P
[07:56] <VR_> goodfellas!
[07:56] <computer> last time a car crashed under my apartment window while being chased by police, wasn't major crash tho, he was only going about 15 mph, which is kinda wierd running away from police at that speed
[07:57] <computer> i guess he only started to run but then crashed immediately so it wasn't high speed =)
[07:58] <computer> u could, u could dissolve the drug and recrystallize it later lol
[07:58] <Linux_Galore> he's gone
[08:03] <linlin> how can i make a command automatically run when i login to kde ?
[08:04] <fowlduck> linlin: i believe there is a .autostart directory somewhere in the home directory
[08:04] <fowlduck> i think within the .kde directory
[08:04] <linlin> ok ill take a look
[08:04] <fowlduck> actually I think it's Autostart or AutoStart...I could be wrong
[08:05] <pixelsquid> I don't see one in mine
[08:05] <spitwise> http://docs.kde.org/userguide/kde-startup-sequence.html
[08:05] <fowlduck> pixelsquid: yeah, this is from my SuSE days
[08:06] <fowlduck> pixelsquid: just trying to be helpful :)
[08:06] <pixelsquid> Ah
[08:07] <pixelsquid> This is something I've been wondering myself
[08:07] <pixelsquid> There's a program I want to open on startup
[08:07] <fowlduck> actually google is saying it's in .kde/Autostart for SuSE, gentoo, and at least one version of kubuntu
[08:08] <fowlduck> you could check it out in konqueror: file:///home/USER_NAME/.kde/Autostart
[08:08] <fowlduck> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=194457
[08:08] <pixelsquid> there's one file in the .kde/Autostart/
[08:08] <pixelsquid> named .directory
[08:08] <linlin> yeah i have that also
[08:09] <pixelsquid> It's weird
[08:09] <fowlduck> ok, so?
[08:09] <Linux_Galore> linlin: create a script that runs what you want and in kdontrol you can tell kde to autostart the script when it runs
[08:09] <fowlduck> You put a link to what you want run
[08:09] <Linux_Galore> kcontrol*
[08:11] <spitwise> or bash
[08:12] <linlin> actually
[08:12] <Linux_Galore> linlin: start kcontrol and look in KDE Components -> Autostart
[08:12] <linlin> i dont want it to run when a user logs in, i want it to be running when the login screen is up
[08:12] <fowlduck> the beryl docs for kubuntu say to put it in ~/.kde/Autostart too
[08:13] <fowlduck> linlin: update-rc.d is the way to go for that I think
[08:14] <pixelsquid> OK, so do you just put the script in~/.kde/Autostart/ ?
[08:15] <fowlduck> pixelsquid: if you want it to run when you log in and KDE launches, then yes
[08:15] <wizard_> !dvd
[08:15] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[08:15] <pixelsquid> cool! thanks
[08:15] <fowlduck> pixelsquid: make sure it works in the first place too
[08:16] <pixelsquid> How do I turn off the session restore?
[08:17] <Nergar> hi
[08:17] <pixelsquid> Everytime I log in, it opens all of the programs from last time
[08:17] <fowlduck> pixelsquid: that sounds like a google-worthy question.
[08:17] <pixelsquid> heh
[08:17] <fowlduck> pixelsquid: it's a very common one, no doubt
[08:17] <pixelsquid> sure. Thanks, fowlduck
[08:18] <fowlduck> pixelsquid: sure thing :)
[08:18] <Nergar> where can i download kubuntu with torrent??
[08:18] <andreasw> Hi, anybody else has the problem that kmail doesn't store email passwords?
[08:18] <andreasw> in Edgy
[08:19] <fowlduck> Nergar: there isn't a link from the kubuntu page?
[08:20] <Nergar> no
[08:20] <Nergar> only for the dvd
[08:20] <fowlduck> hmm, must not have a lot of demand for the CD through torrent
[08:21] <Nergar> does that means no torrent???
[08:21] <Linux_Galore> linlin: in kcontrol goto kde Components -> Session Manager, look for the "On Login" section. disable "restore previous session"
[08:22] <fowlduck> Nergar: it's likely that there isn't one or that it isn't officially supported as a means of distribution, meaning you will have to find it elsewhere
[08:22] <Nergar> i rather use http
[08:22] <Nergar> ;) thanx though
[08:23] <Linux_Galore> Nergar: pick a tracker search site and just enter kubuntu
[08:23] <wizard_> http:// repositories will go slower than a torrent
[08:23] <andreasw> depends on the mirror ^^
[08:23] <Nergar> its better to have the oficial version
[08:23] <fowlduck> wizard_: not true, the RIGHT http goes as fast as my connection will allow.  You just have to figure out which ones have their bandwidth unthrottled
[08:24] <Linux_Galore> Nergar: http://www.torrentspy.com/search?query=ubuntu&submit.x=0&submit.y=0
[08:24] <Nergar> thanx linux-galore
[08:24] <computer> how do i add trash to the desktop
[08:24] <fowlduck> Nergar: the torrents are EXTREMELY unlikely to have an 'unofficial' version, and this can be verified with the md5sum
[08:25] <wizard_> fowlduck: or you could skip the guessing game
[08:25] <wizard_> and DL a torrent
[08:25] <fowlduck> computer: add an applet to one of your panels
[08:26] <fowlduck> wizard_: everyone tells me that torrents are fast, but I have yet to find a consistently fast torrent.
[08:26] <wizard_> then your torrents hate you
[08:26] <fowlduck> wizard_: yes, that is entirely likely
[08:26] <wizard_> remember to be a clever torrent user not a st00pid one, as many sites will tell you
[08:26] <computer> fowlduck how... =)
[08:26] <Linux_Galore> fowlduck: I get 1mb/s with Linux torrents
[08:26] <wizard_> have tcp udp ports open and configured
[08:26] <fowlduck> wizard_: yep, been there, done that
[08:27] <Nergar> what bout this one http://www.torrentspy.com/torrent/896901/Kubuntu_6_10_Edgy_Eft_32_bit_Final_Desktop_CD
[08:27] <Linux_Galore> Nergar: yep thats the one
[08:27] <fowlduck> Linux_Galore: I get 5 mb/s from some http
[08:27] <Linux_Galore> fowlduck: http is different
[08:27] <computer> fowlduck o i found a guide on google
[08:27] <computer> fowlduck nvm thx
[08:27] <fowlduck> computer: right-click the panel and...ok
[08:27] <Linux_Galore> fowlduck: your comparing apples and pears
[08:27] <fowlduck> computer: np :)
[08:28] <computer> fowlduck yup =)
[08:28] <spitwise> how maby seeders fowlduck ?
[08:28] <Nergar> thanx a lot, i guess i'll be seeing you guys here. my linux experience begins
[08:28] <spitwise> many
[08:28] <fowlduck> Linux_Galore: not in this case, as the discussion warrants the comparison of speed
[08:28] <fowlduck> spitwise: that is probably the issue
[08:28] <spitwise> torrents depend on the # of seeders and their connections
[08:29] <fowlduck> spitwise: and I have seeded torrents in the past, I'm not just a leecher
[08:29] <Linux_Galore> fowlduck: yeah but http is fine till you realise there it no mirror because <cough> ubuntu dvd <cough> its not supported
[08:29] <fowlduck> Linux_Galore: we were discussing the CD, not the DVD
[08:29] <GWillakers> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[08:29] <Linux_Galore> fowlduck: http for me is actually slower than ftp
[08:30] <Linux_Galore> fowlduck: I get 8-10mb/s with ftp but Im hard up getting 4mb/s on http
[08:30] <fowlduck> Linux_Galore: that's interesting, but entirely possible.
[08:30] <fowlduck> Linux_Galore: I don't have that issue, fortunately.
[08:31] <fowlduck> but my connection is only 5 mb/s
[08:31] <Linux_Galore> fowlduck: I have a feeling its because of a squid server
[08:31] <Linux_Galore> fowlduck: 22mb/s here
[08:31] <Nergar> how come xubuntu have torrent and kubuntu doesn't
[08:31] <kraut> moin
[08:31] <fowlduck> hmm, very interesting
[08:31] <fowlduck> WOW, 22
[08:31] <fowlduck> nice
[08:32] <fowlduck> Linux_Galore: squid is a proxy and/or http filter?
[08:32] <Linux_Galore> fowlduck: adsl2+ with the advaatage I live 200 meters from the exchange
[08:32] <fowlduck> niiiice
[08:32] <fowlduck> I can't get dsl here
[08:32] <fowlduck> Too far from the co
[08:32] <Linux_Galore> fowlduck: squid can filter http but can also throttle it
[08:32] <fowlduck> ahh
[08:33] <fowlduck> well, ftp or torrents are perfect for you, providing your isp doesn't throttle torrents
[08:33] <Linux_Galore> fowlduck: Im thinking of setting up my own remote proxy
[08:34] <fowlduck> Linux_Galore: sounds nice.  I'd love to do that from my home and tunnel from work/school, but my connection sucks on the upload side
[08:34] <fowlduck> I'd be doing it if I had your connection :)
[08:34] <Linux_Galore> fowlduck: want to drool over connection speed, look at this http://users.tpg.com.au/abdserv6/ADSL2%2B_Speed_Test.jpg
[08:35] <_linux> Hi, when i try to start kubuntu it freeses during boot at "Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)" i can click enter there and i get a ternimal based login, but when i login and do "startx" it gives me abunch of errors with saying "Read Only File System" one of them being "Cant create /tmp/.X0-lock Read only file system" how can i fix this so i can boot up again?
[08:35] <Linux_Galore> fowlduck: funny as hell, its a cache stuffup
[08:35] <fowlduck> ??
[08:35] <Linux_Galore> fowlduck: the test is caching on squid at the isp
[08:36] <Linux_Galore> fowlduck: so im seeing the isp's speed
[08:36] <fowlduck> haha, nice
[08:36] <fowlduck> hax! ;)
[08:36] <Linux_Galore> fowlduck: 238mb on adsl sort of gives it away
[08:37] <fowlduck> hax hax hax
[08:37] <Linux_Galore> mb/s
[08:37] <Linux_Galore> fowlduck: Ive been doing to evil flooding with that cache lol
[08:37] <_linux> Hi, when i try to start kubuntu it freeses during boot at "Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)" i can click enter there and i get a ternimal based login, but when i login and do "startx" it gives me abunch of errors with saying "Read Only File System" one of them being "Cant create /tmp/.X0-lock Read only file system" how can i fix this so i can boot up again?
[08:38] <Linux_Galore> fowlduck: throw a few requests at a IIs server at 238mb/s and watch it stop
[08:38] <fowlduck> lol
[08:38] <fowlduck> nice
[08:39] <fowlduck> k, gtg for the night
[08:39] <fowlduck> take care people
[08:39] <computer> does svn == subversion, and what is it =)
[08:39] <Linux_Galore> computer: yes
[08:39] <computer> o and what's fud.. saw it couple times while googling
[08:39] <velle> fowlduck: sweet dreams
[08:39] <computer> Linux_Galore thx
[08:40] <Linux_Galore> computer: if you ever want to figure out what type of file you looking at just type  file filename.etc
[08:40] <Linux_Galore> in a terminal
[08:40] <computer> o ok, thx
[08:40] <_linux> Hi, when i try to start kubuntu it freeses during boot at "Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)" i can click enter there and i get a ternimal based login, but when i login and do "startx" it gives me abunch of errors with saying "Read Only File System" one of them being "Cant create /tmp/.X0-lock Read only file system" how can i fix this so i can boot up again?
[08:41] <Linux_Galore> _linux: did the install work before ??
[08:42] <_linux> Linux_Galore: my comp has been fine for 6 months
[08:42] <Linux_Galore> _linux: I got something like that when I had a disk corruption caused by my cpu doing a dummy spit
[08:42] <Linux_Galore> _linux: basically large sections of /tmp got wrecked
[08:42] <Linux_Galore> and /var and /etc
[08:42] <velle> Linux_Galore: i still haven found out my version of flash, in the plugin folder i only have two flash files, and i dont know how to get at version number out of them
[08:43] <Nergar> see ya
[08:43] <Linux_Galore> velle: goto www.youtube.com  run a video and right click on the video and it should show you what version of flash you have
[08:44] <Linux_Galore> velle: or even go to www.gizmodo.com  and right click on the gizmodo logo
[08:44] <Linux_Galore> velle: old version is 7 the new version is 9
[08:45] <Linux_Galore> velle: do you have the flash plugin in your /home/username/.mozilla/plugins/ directory
[08:46] <_linux> Hi, when i try to start kubuntu it freeses during boot at "Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)" i can click enter there and i get a ternimal based login, but when i login and do "startx" it gives me abunch of errors with saying "Read Only File System" one of them being "Cant create /tmp/.X0-lock Read only file system" how can i fix this so i can boot up again?
[08:46] <Linux_Galore> _linux: you have a disk corruption
[08:46] <_linux> no
[08:46] <Linux_Galore> _linux: start again
[08:46] <Linux_Galore> _linux: yes
[08:46] <_linux> no
[08:47] <_linux> somehow my root partiton got set to read only
[08:47] <Linux_Galore> _linux: then go to /tmp then
[08:47] <_linux> i just need to find out how to change
[08:47] <_linux> i cant, im on a live cd
[08:47] <Linux_Galore> _linux: actually you can
[08:47] <_linux> how?
[08:48] <Linux_Galore> _linux: just mount the partition then go to it
[08:48] <_linux> i dont know how to mount partitions
[08:48] <Linux_Galore> _linux: but you do know when your disk isnt corrupted
[08:48] <_linux> yes
[08:48] <_linux> because i can browse my HD
[08:49] <_linux> but i cant write anything because its read only
[08:49] <Linux_Galore> _linux: no, thats an assumption, I can brows a hardisk with all the data corrupted, does it mean I have a good file structure, no it doesnt
[08:50] <_linux> look, your an idiot
[08:50] <_linux> im TELLING you whats wron
[08:50] <_linux> g
[08:50] <_linux> if you disk is corrupt you wouldnt be able to read any files
[08:50] <Lathiat> I'll tell you right now, 100%, if you can browse the HDD but its read only then you have HDD corruption
[08:50] <Linux_Galore> _linux: to run Linux you needs hundreds of libs and apps all working, not if you want to spend hours finding whats broken when a new install takes 40 min, go for it
[08:51] <Lathiat> if it detects it mounts it read only to prevent any further corruption
[08:51] <Linux_Galore> now*
[08:51] <Lathiat> run "dmesg" look in the output it'l probably whinge somewhere
[08:51] <Lathiat> it may just be filesystem corruption (hdd isnt actually broken) or could be broken HDD
[08:51] <Lathiat> reboot into "recovery mode" and do a filesystem check
[08:51] <Linux_Galore> Lathiat: Ive had the same, after a bit of searching with a text browser I found a pile of broken files
[08:52] <Linux_Galore> Lathiat: rather than fix them all I just did an image install (takes 8 minutes)
[08:52] <_linux> linux galore: I KNOW WHATS WRONG YOU FUCKING IDIOT
[08:52] <Lathiat> Linux_Galore: ok time to give up
[08:52] <Linux_Galore> _linux: then fix it Mr i cant mount anything
[08:53] <CSonicGo> !language
[08:53] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:53] <CSonicGo> >:(
[08:53] <_linux> linux_Galore: your a fucking douchebag, just because i dont memorize every damn command dosnt mean i cant do it
[08:53] <_linux> and i did fix it
[08:54] <_linux> because like i said, i KNEW WHAT THE ERROR WAS
[08:54] <_linux> so stop being a faggot and go run windows or somthing
[08:54] <CSonicGo> lol drama
[08:54] <Linux_Galore> _linux: yes, the error you showed me is a file corruption problem
[08:55] <CSonicGo> hey! we share
[08:55] <aseigo> sharing!
[08:55] <Lathiat> share! thats not what our community is about!
[08:55] <Lathiat> oh wait.
[08:55] <_linux> no, the error i pasted was a "this is a read only file system" problem
[08:56] <Lathiat> CSonicGo: got any icing sugar?
[08:56] <CSonicGo> aww
[08:56] <CSonicGo> no :(
[08:57] <Linux_Galore> heh heh
[08:57] <Linux_Galore> aaaw, I had my troll cage out too
[08:57] <Lathiat> Shows over folks, please exit orderly through the isle to the left << and right >> please place all rubbish in the bins
[08:58] <Linux_Galore> hmm a root service with a read only file problem, ooh my god could it be the disk is corrupted so badly it cant write
[08:59] <Linux_Galore> aaah, Ive had my fun
[08:59] <Linux_Galore> neeeeeeeeeext
[08:59] <CSonicGo> man that was fun
[08:59] <CSonicGo> I know internet trolls are bad and all but, they can be funny! :D
[09:00] <Linux_Galore> I used to be like him when I first started with Linux, man those were the days
[09:00] <Linux_Galore> total frustration
[09:01] <Linux_Galore> and this was 10 years ago when you needed to wind up the PC to run Linux
[09:02] <Linux_Galore> now Im on the other side of the fish bowl and can see why its so amusing
[09:02] <CSonicGo> rofl
[09:02] <CSonicGo> yeah I know waht you mean
[09:03] <Linux_Galore> he will look back on today and cringe in 5 years
[09:03] <Linux_Galore> with some hope
[09:04] <aseigo> as will you, i'm sure
[09:04] <Linux_Galore> aseigo: naw, Im an admin, Im genetically enhanced to be an asshole
[09:04] <aseigo> anyone who doesn't look back on their own selves years ago and cluck their tongue at themselves, no matter how old wise and aware, is a fool =)
[09:04] <aseigo> oh no. a sys admin. the worst sort.
[09:05] <CSonicGo> haha
[09:05] <Lathiat> haha
[09:05] <Linux_Galore> :-P
[09:05] <CSonicGo> you aren't like those linux Elitists are you
[09:05] <Lathiat> altho im a bit of a programmer
[09:05] <Lathiat> my job is sysadminny
[09:05] <CSonicGo> the ones taht are like "YOU KNOW LINUS HATES GNOME"
[09:05] <CSonicGo> I hate those kind of people :(
[09:05] <Lathiat> heh
[09:06] <velle> Linux_Galore: you wont believe it, but im still working on that flash thing (except a few phonecalls), the problem is that my computer is EXTREMELY slow this morning
[09:06] <Linux_Galore> no, I'm no, I just an equal opportunity stupid person hater
[09:06] <aseigo> well, linus is a pretty briliant man. ;
[09:06] <aseigo> ;
[09:06] <CSonicGo> well, yeah, he wrote something that any computer nowadays can use
[09:06] <Rob-West> !pastebin
[09:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:07] <Linux_Galore> velle: just look in /home/username/.mozilla/plugins  see if the flash plugin file is there first
[09:08] <velle> Linux_Galore: yep, there are two files for flash - but i was sencere when i said that my computer is extremely slow, it just took me more than 10 minutes (i timed it) to close down 3 apps
[09:08] <jlowell> how do I get beryl to start on login in kde?
[09:09] <velle> i was running firefox 3 tabs; kopete, konversation, ktorrent, kpdf, kate, terminal, ........... should that be a prob for a 1ghz with 256mb ram
[09:09] <aseigo> velle: depends. firefox can take quite a bit, particularly since it has it's own library stack
[09:09] <velle> how can i check if my ram is the problem? if i should buy more... or should i just buy them right away with my money from christmas?
[09:09] <aseigo> velle: and ktorrent can hog memory some times... the rest should be fine
[09:10] <aseigo> velle: more ram is always a good investment, regardless... (gives more room for file caching even if you have headroom)
[09:10] <aseigo> velle: to see if you're running tight, press ctrl+escape and you'll get a process table that should tell you what your usage is like`
[09:11] <aseigo> velle: or you could utter `free` from a konsole
[09:11] <Linux_Galore> velle: aaah sound like something is broken
[09:11] <jlowell> anyone using beryl with kubuntu??
[09:11] <rich_> how do I make my menu transparent?
[09:11] <Linux_Galore> velle: run ksysguard
[09:12] <Linux_Galore> velle: should show you what sucking up all the system resources, then kill it
[09:12] <aseigo> rich_: it's in the widget style panel... or you can run a composition manager
[09:12] <aseigo> Linux_Galore: ksysguard is what pops up with ctrl+escape
[09:12] <Linux_Galore> aseigo: aah, I usually run top
[09:12] <jlowell> how do I get beryl to start on login in kde? anyone??
[09:12] <Search4Lancer> how do I restart Xorg? used to know... can't remember
[09:13] <Linux_Galore> Search4Lancer: startx
[09:13] <rich_> where can I find the widget style panel?
[09:13] <Search4Lancer> after killing it, I imagine?
[09:13] <Linux_Galore> rich_: ?? you mean the theme
[09:13] <Linux_Galore> rich_: in kcontrol
[09:14] <Linux_Galore> rich_: look ant feel  section
[09:14] <Linux_Galore> and*
[09:14] <rich_> thanks
[09:14] <jlowell> cmon folks... help?
[09:15] <Linux_Galore> jlowell: not that simple
[09:15] <jlowell> really? it is in gnome
[09:15] <Linux_Galore> jlowell: its not part of gnome
[09:16] <Linux_Galore> jlowell: for starters you have to update your x server
[09:16] <jlowell> I mean, starting beryl at login in gnome is easy
[09:16] <Linux_Galore> jlowell: install a few things create a shell script and then add a menu entrty
[09:16] <aseigo> jlowell: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/kdewm/
[09:16] <jlowell> isnt there somehow I can have beryl start at login in kde?
[09:17] <Linux_Galore> jlowell: yes, have you installed all the components yet
[09:17] <jlowell> yes I have
[09:18] <Linux_Galore> hold on let me swap machines
[09:18] <Linux_Galore> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL
[09:19] <Linux_Galore> shows down the bottom how to add an entry in the login for beryl
[09:19] <Linux_Galore> for gnome (gdm) and kde (kdm) logins
[09:20] <jlowell> thx
[09:20] <aseigo> Linux_Galore: if you have beryl working fine, it's much easier to just set KDEWM
[09:20] <Linux_Galore> aseigo: Ive got driver issues
[09:20] <aseigo> jlowell apparently doesn't
[09:21] <jlowell> that's pretty simple
[09:21] <jlowell> brb
[09:21] <Linux_Galore> hold on let me swap back to my home machine
[09:22] <sgrover> aseigo.. late night for you.. didn't think you'd be online at this time.. :)  Merry Ho Ho to you  (and now back to our regulary scheduled program...)
[09:22] <aseigo> sgrover: hey dude
[09:22] <aseigo> sgrover: and yeah, merry xmas
[09:22] <aseigo> sgrover: the boy is at mom's and it's a nice night for hacking
[09:22] <Linux_Galore> hmm
[09:23] <aseigo> sgrover: what you  been up to?
[09:23] <sgrover> @aseigo hacking.. javascript stuff.. low level DOM and AJAX..
[09:23] <jlowell> awesome, beryl started, but it wont let me use it as a window manager ... :\
[09:23] <rich_> can't find 'look and feel' in kcontrol section of themes
[09:23] <sgrover> er.. how do you do private messges in IRC?
[09:23] <aseigo> sgrover: /msg <nick>
[09:24] <aseigo> rich_: what are you looking for
[09:24] <rich_> to make the menus transparent
[09:26] <jlowell> i followed the how to in ubuntuguide.com to set up beryl... what am i missing? I cant set beryl to be window manager...
[09:28] <notech> any error from beryl?
[09:29] <Linux_Galore> jlowell: did you edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:29] <notech> and what wm are you running?
[09:30] <jlowell> Linux_Galore: yes as ubuntuguide.com said to do...
[09:30] <jlowell> notech: It returns to kde wm
[09:30] <velle> needed to restart... wooooowwwwww... my comp sucks!!!
[09:31] <aseigo> jlowell: you wouldn't have happened to have read the url i posted for you?
[09:31] <notech> jlowell: starting beryl-manager from a terminal?
[09:32] <aseigo> jlowell: because if you did, you'd probably have your answer
[09:32] <notech> oh, got here late, didn't know url's had been posted
[09:32] <jlowell> aseigo: I read the second heading that you told me to
[09:32] <jlowell> notech: no not from terminal
[09:32] <rich_> I put transluceny to 100 and its only faded a tiny bit
[09:32] <aseigo> jlowell: and did you do what it suggested? set $KDEWM on login?
[09:33] <Linux_Galore> velle: check kcontrol and see what kde services are running, come like kat are total system hogs
[09:33] <jlowell> no I did what Linux_Galore suggested... I'll try that
[09:33] <Linux_Galore> some*
[09:33] <Linux_Galore> ??
[09:33] <Linux_Galore> now what did I do
[09:34] <redleader> evening guys
[09:34] <jlowell> aseigo: could you post that url again?
[09:34] <notech> it's all your fault, everything is :)
[09:34] <aseigo> jlowell: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/kdewm/
[09:34] <redleader> anyone here that could help me figure out how to get a webcam working?
[09:35] <jlowell> aseigo: where is .profile?
[09:35] <zaach> is ekiga compiled with v4l2 support?
[09:35] <aseigo> jlowell: in ~
[09:36] <jlowell> I don't have one there
[09:36] <velle> Linux_Galore: didnt you mean ksysguard instead of kcontrol?
[09:36] <jlowell> should I make one?
[09:37] <Linux_Galore> velle: ksysguard allows you to kill a process, kcontrol has a section that allows you to stop a process ever starting in the first place
[09:37] <jlowell> brb
[09:37] <velle> Linux_Galore: ok, (btw everything is more smooth now after restart)
[09:38] <zaach> anyone know if the ekiga package has v4l2 support
[09:38] <Linux_Galore> velle: if you have kat turned on wait a while it will do it again
[09:38] <Linux_Galore> velle: do you have a cat icon in your taskbar
[09:38] <Linux_Galore> velle: if not dont worry
[09:39] <jlowell> aseigo: was all I was supposed to do, was add that line to .profile? if so... it did not work
[09:39] <aseigo> jlowell: or whatever file gets sourced when you log in... e.g. .bashrc
[09:39] <crazy_bus> Can anyone please tell me how to get the menu items, for things I've installed to appear.
[09:40] <jlowell> aseigo: I don't understand
[09:40] <Linux_Galore> crazy_bus: how did you install these items
[09:40] <redleader> yea, I'm trying to figure that out, from adept
[09:40] <velle> Linux_Galore: no i dont have a cat icon anywhere, and in ksysguard i only have something called katapult, not kat
[09:40] <sgrover> aseigo - I've seen this issue myself with edgy.  I've installed RapidSVN, but there's no menu item for it, and a few others.
[09:41] <aseigo> sgrover: packaging errors
[09:41] <Linux_Galore> velle: aah yeah, kapapult is just a quick app starter ie press alt/spacebar
[09:41] <Linux_Galore> katapult*
[09:41] <crazy_bus> apt-get and adept
[09:41] <Linux_Galore> crazy_bus: have you logged out yet
[09:42] <Linux_Galore> crazy_bus: just log out an back in, it refreshes the menu
[09:42] <crazy_bus> Yes, I installed a 'Debian Menu' which had most of the missing icons.  But I'm not sure how to reinstall it
[09:42] <velle> Linux_Galore: ahhh, like quicksilver on mac... i guess it need everything to be indexed, ie kat
[09:42] <velle> right?
[09:43] <jlowell> what am I missing aseigo?
[09:43] <jlowell> aseigo_zZZz:
[09:43] <Linux_Galore> velle: kat/beagle are like spotlight in OSX
[09:44] <rich_> I went to KControl/Appearances and themes/Style/Effects and I made the Menu opacity to 98 but it still doesn't make the menu look like transperent or anything
[09:44] <Linux_Galore> velle: very resource hungry though
[09:45] <Linux_Galore> velle: beagle was actually released before spotlight too
[09:45] <velle> Linux_Galore: i did not know about kat/beagle, but spotlight was the only thing on mac that i missed when i left my ibook
[09:45] <aseigo_zZZz> kat is unstable, beagle is a pig. spotlight is considerably better than either.
[09:46] <Linux_Galore> velle: always get OSX nazi's saying Linux coppied spotlight when in fact the dates dont match up
[09:46] <Linux_Galore> aseigo_zZZz: Oracle does it better than any of them
[09:46] <velle> Linux_Galore: so they are nazis, i didnt even know :)
[09:46] <Linux_Galore> asier: I can meta search across a network
[09:46] <aseigo_zZZz> Linux_Galore: oracle for the desktop? heh.
[09:47] <Linux_Galore> aseigo_zZZz: client side front end
[09:47] <Linux_Galore> aseigo_zZZz: server side dedicated meta search engine
[09:47] <aseigo_zZZz> Linux_Galore: show me a) the indexers and b) the desktop integration.
[09:47] <Linux_Galore> aseigo_zZZz: very fast
[09:48] <Linux_Galore> aseigo_zZZz: oracle did the desktop meta search stuff years ago
[09:48] <aseigo_zZZz> Linux_Galore: no, they talked about it. nothing of substance ever materialized.
[09:49] <Linux_Galore> aseigo_zZZz: no, they decided to use a server and not turn all the desktops into snail meat
[09:50] <aseigo_zZZz> Linux_Galore: so show me all those oracle powered desktops.
[09:50] <Linux_Galore> aseigo_zZZz: you do realise this is 2006 and the desktop isnt glued to a single machine anymore
[09:51] <niblets> When I mount my iPod and try to autodetect it on amarok, I get the following message "No new media devices were found. If you feel this is an error, ensure that the DBUS and HAL daemons are running and KDE was built with support for them. You can test this by running "dcop kded mediamanager fullList" in a Konsole window.
[09:51] <aseigo_zZZz> Linux_Galore: probably better than you do. that said, you didn't answer the question. nice try though
[09:51] <Linux_Galore> aseigo_zZZz: now your trolling
[09:51] <CSonicGo> oh man is it just trollday or what
[09:51] <CSonicGo> :P
[09:51] <Linux_Galore> aseigo_zZZz: how about this, you go find it and come back and apologize
[09:52] <aseigo_zZZz> Linux_Galore: lol ... i would, except that oracle's search solutions never materialzed into anything meaningful in the real world.
[09:52] <rich_> thanks aseigo, finally found it :)
[09:53] <aseigo_zZZz> Linux_Galore: and last i checked, calling someone on their particular brand of bullshit wasn't trolling ;)
[09:53] <rich_> I was pushing the bar up more instead of the other way
[09:53] <Linux_Galore> aseigo_zZZz: wow, must have looked as far as your icons on your desktop to get that answer
[09:53] <velle> Linux_Galore: after an hour (probably more, but i lost my sense of time) i now know that i have got flash 7, where it is supposed to tell me the exact version number, it is blank
[09:54] <aseigo_zZZz> Linux_Galore: you're probably right. what do i know?
[09:54] <niblets> any ideas?
[09:54] <Linux_Galore> velle: yeah you need to grab the ver 9 file,  you just unpack the file then copy the flash file over to .mozilla/plugins
[09:54] <iftiq> does anyone know anything about Cedega?
[09:54] <aseigo_zZZz> Linux_Galore: after all, 15 years in the industry, one of the kde core devels, having working with oracle products throughout the 90s ... pfft.
[09:55] <Linux_Galore> aseigo_zZZz: wow 15
[09:55] <Linux_Galore> aseigo_zZZz: your talking to a pdp 11 guy
[09:55] <aseigo_zZZz> as i said, go find me all those oracle powered desktop search installations and we'll have something.
[09:56] <Linux_Galore> aseigo_zZZz: you mom was wiping you rear end when I was doing cobol
[09:56] <velle> Linux_Galore: while im at all this... should i upgrade to firefox2? i also have a problem with firefox suddenly closing down (since i installed and uninstalled Adblock). And it seems I also have problem with memory.
[09:57] <rich_> Anyone use kroller? everytime I install it the thing lags for some reason, graphic lag
[09:57] <Linux_Galore> velle: ff 2.0 has some memory leak fixes
[09:58] <Linux_Galore> velle: for me ff 2.0 is faster than ff 1.5
[09:58] <velle> Linux_Galore: ok, i think i will upgrade that one later today
[09:58] <aseigo_zZZz> rich_: yeah, sk isn't very efficient and kroller really pushes it to the imits
[09:59] <Linux_Galore> velle: are you still on daper ?
[09:59] <Linux_Galore> dapper*
[10:00] <Linux_Galore> velle: someone made a gui app to update dapper ie flash 9, java 5, firefox 2.0
[10:00] <velle> Linux_Galore: im still on dapper
[10:00] <Linux_Galore> velle: let me get the link, this will make your life easier
[10:00] <squid0> 2.0 is great
[10:01] <velle> Linux_Galore: i want the link, but a look at this craze, try http://www.adobe.com/downloads/, and click the link for downloading flash 9. I dont know about you, but im redirected to a page for downloading version 7.
[10:01] <Linux_Galore> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=48166
[10:01] <Linux_Galore> velle: ^^
[10:01] <velle> Linux_Galore: right now i really need my life to be easier :)
[10:02] <knoppix> hi
[10:02] <juan> im having x problems but have no idea what it is, all the autoconfigures are failing is this a good place to get help or is there anywhere better
[10:03] <velle> Linux_Galore: i would even like to upgrade to Efty, but my dvd drive is defect, it has reading errors constantly and i was really lucky to succeed with dapper at all ---- so im afraid to try
[10:03] <Linux_Galore> velle: edgy ?
[10:03] <knoppix> i have killed my debian sarge while i was updating to etch and now i have the idea to try kubuntu
[10:04] <velle> Linux_Galore: i thought that Efty Edge was the name of the successor of Dapper Drake ... ?
[10:04] <Linux_Galore> velle: first if you want to upgrade from dapper to edgy remove all sharp objects and guns from the house
[10:04] <Linux_Galore> :-P
[10:04] <rich_> what are the benefits of the new version of kubuntu?
[10:04] <Linux_Galore> velle: edgy eft
[10:05] <knoppix> my question is what is with the half-year updates is that a big thing like debian stable testing or is it easier?
[10:05] <knoppix> good question
[10:05] <Linux_Galore> rich_: what version are we talking about
[10:05] <rich_> comparing 6.06 to 6.10
[10:05] <Linux_Galore> rich_: 6.10 has way better hardware support
[10:06] <velle> Linux_Galore: ok :) bummer  ---- and i will stay away from edgy as long as possible ---- i hate all this linux setup, just want it over with so i can start coding python ;)
[10:06] <Linux_Galore> rich_: 6.06 seemed a bit more stable but they have fixed most of my problems
[10:07] <Linux_Galore> velle: not much difference and you can add kde 3.5.5 to dapper very easily anyway
[10:08] <Linux_Galore> velle: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-355.php
[10:08] <Linux_Galore> velle: tells you how to update the desktop
[10:08] <Linux_Galore> velle: very easy
[10:09] <Linux_Galore> velle: if you have hardware issues update, if not stay were you are and just install kde 3.5.5
[10:09] <velle> Linux_Galore: is it worth it? im not really looking for something fancy, i just want everything to work (without keyboard if possible :) )
[10:09] <velle> Linux_Galore: i mean, is it worth update the kde within dapper?
[10:09] <Linux_Galore> velle: hell yes
[10:10] <Linux_Galore> velle: way faster
[10:10] <Linux_Galore> velle: I updated my dapper machine to 3.5.5 and everything felt more responsive
[10:10] <velle> Linux_Galore: and i meant, without mouse..... not without keyboard :)
[10:11] <Linux_Galore> velle: lol no mouse, you got one of those new fangled dog input devices huh <humour>
[10:12] <Linux_Galore> velle: nope, I know, miiind control
[10:12] <velle> is there such a thing as a dog input device?
[10:12] <velle> it does not sound efficient, cute though :)
[10:12] <Linux_Galore> velle: ask google
[10:16] <velle> i dont think you meant this one, but I love it, lol:  http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/announcements/update-humping-dog-usb-drive-now-available-to-sodomize-your-laptop-222651.php
[10:16] <rich_> where can I check to see what version of kde I have?
[10:16] <CSonicGo> every KDE app really
[10:17] <CSonicGo> just go to help/about KDE
[10:17] <crazy_bus> Is there anyway throttle the download speed of apt-get downloads?
[10:19] <juan> i dont have admin priv when i login
[10:20] <rich_> In SuperKaramba, when I go to Open Local Theme and click 'Open' I get a message saying "Error- The specified folder does not exist or was not readable', anyone know how to fix this?
[10:20] <CSonicGo> juan: you're not supposed to. you can only gain root status in a special mode. use SUDO if you want to do a command requiring "admin" privileges
[10:21] <juan> but ive never got a full poppup warning me about it before, so i assume it means more than that
[10:21] <Edulix> hi
[10:22] <CSonicGo> oh, heh, a program is telling you you don't have admin privileges?
[10:22] <Edulix> how can I play (without converting the file to mpg) a flv video?
[10:22] <Edulix> I think there was a flvplayer or something like that
[10:23] <juan> erm i dont have any programs booting up (well only ksensors) which doesnt do that
[10:23] <CSonicGo> I'm off to bed guys
[10:23] <CSonicGo> see ya
[10:26] <juan> everytime i boot i get the following popup kubuntu tells me i dont have admin privelages
[10:26] <CSonicGo> weird.
[10:27] <CSonicGo> I dunno man, sounds like an error of some sort
[10:28] <juan> nvm i have quite a few problems ill stick summit on forums nn m8
[10:31] <_linux> hi, im having fstab problmes, it would be a big help if someone would pastebin me theirs, so i can see what mine needs to be like
[10:34] <_linux> hi, im having fstab problmes, it would be a big help if someone would pastebin me theirs, so i can see what mine needs to be like
[10:41] <praetor> anyone know the package i need to install in order to be able to include kde header files in my code?
[10:42] <fdoving> praetor: kdelibs4-dev
[10:43] <praetor> fdoving: it is installed
[10:43] <praetor> fdoving: as is 'kdelibs'
[10:43] <fdoving> praetor: what file is it you're missing then?
[10:43] <praetor> fdoving: and 'kdelibs-data'
[10:43] <praetor> i cant include any kde header files
[10:43] <praetor> eg 'kurl.h'
[10:43] <praetor> gives an error
[10:44] <fdoving> praetor: kurl.h is in kdelibs4-dev
[10:44] <praetor> fdoving: i have that package installed according to adept
[10:45] <praetor> qmake doesn't seem to be generating a makefile that includes it in the libraries
[10:45] <fdoving> praetor: try to open the file, /usr/include/kde/kurl.h
[10:45] <praetor> fdoving: yes, the file is there
[10:46] <praetor> fdoving: cheers, i am possibly doing something wrong with qmake
[10:48] <tomek_> hej
[10:49] <tomek_> co mam zrobic bo pad mi modu Display ??
[10:49] <tomek_> nie moge zmienic rozdzielczosci
[10:49] <tomek_> w Kubuntu 6.06.1
[10:50] <tomek_> jest tu jakis Polak ??
[10:51] <tomek_> hi
[10:52] <tomek_> in my Kubuntu 6.06.1 a modul "Display" has over ... after instalation nvdia drivers
[10:53] <tomek_> iI can;t change a resolution
[10:54] <tomek_> sory not over but crashes
[11:00] <Linux_Galore> tomsku: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:00] <Linux_Galore> tomsku: manually set your max resolution
[11:15] <buz> is there any way to ban guidance power manager from loading upon kde login?
[11:15] <buz> i much prefer kpowersave
[11:17] <fdoving> buz: you can simply remove it, if you want to. the package name is 'kde-guidance-powermanager'
[11:18] <fdoving> also, unloading it before logging out should keep it away.
[11:18] <buz> fdoving: but kubuntu desktop has it as dependency
[11:18] <buz> i thought unloading should help
[11:18] <buz> but somehow it still comes back
[11:18] <buz> like a zombbie
[11:18] <buz> i dont understand why that thing was implemented in first place anyway
[11:19] <fdoving> buz: kubuntu-desktop is not needed, in that way. it's empty, and it's just a package that tells the system what else to install to make up a full kubuntu desktop.
[11:19] <buz> yes but aptitude gets confused if the meta package isnt there
[11:19] <fdoving> buz: you can safely remove kubuntu-desktop, just keep in mind that it should be installed when upgrading, to make it easier..
[11:19] <buz> it then starts to suggest to remove half of kde for it not being required
[11:19] <fdoving> oh, yeah.. aptitude..
[11:20] <buz> maybe i can divert guidance power to kpowersave
[11:21] <fdoving> you can do that, and you can have a look at /usr/share/autostart/
[11:21] <Jucato> (you could also remove the guidance-power-manager from the /usr/share/autostart folder)
[11:21] <Jucato> snap!
[11:21] <fdoving> Jucato :)
[11:21] <Jucato> merry christmas :)
[11:21] <fdoving> you too :)
[11:21] <buz> ah so THATS were it comes from :)
[11:21] <buz> no wonder quitting it didnt remove it
[11:22] <buz> thanks Jucato
[11:23] <__osh__>  /j #ubuntu
[11:23] <__osh__> Bah, one space makes all the difference...
[11:23] <thirio> hi all, how can I have sound from 2 applications at the same time. I have kubuntu edgy.
[11:24] <buz> thirio: usually that just works
[11:24] <buz> unless one of them is flash
[11:24] <buz> then YMMV
[11:25] <smoothies> is anyone here
[11:25] <smoothies> my flash player doesn't work in firefox
[11:25] <smoothies> i.e. no sound
[11:25] <thirio> buz: well, I actually would like to have sound for kde apps while running vmware, sorry for not telling that right away
[11:26] <buz> uh never tried to have sound from vmware
[11:26] <root_> hello
[11:26] <buz> it should work though
[11:26] <smoothies> i typed at konsole sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gxine libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs gxine libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs ogle ogle-gui, but it says can't find gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad
[11:26] <buz> smoothies: you do have multiverse active yes?
[11:26] <thirio> I have sound in vmware but it takes over the hardware and there is no sound in kde apps
[11:26] <__osh__> Seeing that I could/can install kubuntu as a server, are there any server tools for me to use? Ncurses-based setups for printers and similar devices?
[11:26] <smoothies> buz i'd like to say yes  let me check
[11:27] <smoothies> buz how do i know if multiverse is installed from looking at /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:27] <smoothies> i don't have synaptic
[11:28] <smoothies> i just use adept-manager
[11:28] <buz> if you see mlutiverse after one of the urls its rprobably there
[11:28] <smoothies> yeah i do see multiverse
[11:28] <smoothies> and yeah it's uncommented/enabled
[11:28] <Jucato> smoothies: look for something like "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe multiverse"
[11:28] <smoothies> yeah i have that, thx
[11:28] <buz> smoothies: run sudo apt-get update
[11:28] <smoothies> k
[11:30] <Ra77leSnake> hello people
[11:30] <smoothies> then run the command again
[11:30] <smoothies> ?
[11:30] <buz> yes
[11:30] <buz> if that doesnt help you likely have some typo somewhere
[11:31] <smoothies> installed fine this time
[11:31] <smoothies> wierd =) thx so much
[11:31] <smoothies> lets hope firefox works now
[11:32] <smoothies> buz yay thx alot, now firefox flash works flawlessly
[11:32] <zzzindows> I have an LCD monitor and its natural resolution is 1600 x 1200, how can I make it that resolution when the pc boots up?
[11:35] <smoothies> buz would u happen to know what to do if flashplayer audio is a little out of sync with video?
[11:35] <buz> if you're using flash 7 , try flash 9 beta
[11:36] <Jucato> !flash9
[11:36] <ubotu> flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[11:38] <ABIOS> [H5N1]  hey birdy:D
[11:41] <buz> oh really? and i installed it by hand last night ;)
[11:42] <smoothies> does flash 9 work well with edgy
[11:43] <smoothies> just curious cuz i was googling about it trying to install it
[11:43] <smoothies> some entries about some problems in edgy but i didn't check how old those threads were
[11:43] <buz> works very well yes
[11:43] <buz> !backports
[11:43] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[11:44] <hastesaver> smoothies, why are you even googling for it? Get it from Seveas's repo or something :-) It works fine
[11:44] <smoothies> i was trying to find a repo =)
[11:44] <andrea> hello to all
[11:44] <niblets> I am having problems with Amarok finding my iPod. gtkpod can find it, but I cant use gtkpod, as t has horrible interface, and I want amarok to work with it
[11:44] <niblets> aany help?
[11:44] <buz> niblets: amarok finds my new shuffle just fine
[11:44] <buz> what version are you using
[11:45] <niblets> 1.4
[11:46] <buz> update to 1.4.4 to make sure its not amarok?
[11:46] <buz> kubuntu.org has packages for edgy
[11:46] <niblets> Sorry, 1.4.4 it is
[11:46] <Fragrag> Excuse, but may I ask where I check file extensions and associated programmes to open them with?
[11:46] <niblets> It is the latest
[11:46] <buz> that works just fine for me
[11:46] <buz> which ipod ?
[11:46] <niblets> nano, 2nd gen
[11:46] <buz> dont have one of them
[11:46] <buz> should work though?
[11:46] <niblets> mm
[11:47] <buz> try #amarok
[11:47] <ABIOS> what's the problem?
[11:47] <niblets> the funny thing is it works on my friends machine which uses gentoo and the same version of amarok
[11:47] <niblets> My iPod doesnt get found by Amarok
[11:48] <ABIOS> what's urs disro
[11:48] <niblets> ?
[11:48] <niblets> kubuntu
[11:48] <andrea> but...can your system see your iPod?
[11:48] <niblets> gtkpod finds it fine, just gtkpod messes up heaps of the tags on kubuntu
[11:49] <niblets> and it can be mounted, unmounted and seen by eveything except amarok
[11:49] <ubuntu> hi
[11:49] <ubuntu> :">
[11:49] <ubuntu_> hi
[11:49] <ubuntu> i just wanna say hi to check my name :p
[11:49] <zPlus> hii
[11:49] <ubuntu> :>
[11:50] <Fragrag> hi
[11:50] <buz> mhh what does it get moutned as?
[11:50] <Fragrag> By the way, I'm just saying hi to be polite :P
[11:50] <buz> mine is /media/ipod
[11:50] <niblets> "/media/ipod"
[11:50] <zPlus> somebody speak italian?
[11:50] <andrea> io
[11:50] <andrea> =)
[11:50] <zPlus> yao
[11:50] <ubuntu> o
[11:50] <Fragrag> !italian
[11:50] <zPlus> !italian
[11:50] <ubuntu> bella signora
[11:51] <andrea> ciao zplus
[11:51] <zPlus> ciau
[11:51] <zPlus> son nuovo da qst parti
[11:51] <andrea> anke io
[11:51] <ubuntu> diamo
[11:51] <andrea> ho installato xchat da 5 min
[11:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about italian - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:51] <zPlus> sto ancora installando l'os
[11:51] <buz> !it
[11:51] <andrea> kubuntu?
[11:51] <zPlus> si
[11:51] <andrea> hai anke win?
[11:52] <zPlus> no
[11:52] <ubuntu>  no parle italiano
[11:52] <andrea> io l'ho completamente tolto
[11:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about italian - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:52] <zzzindows> is kroller good? installed it and had alot of graphic lag
[11:52] <niblets> when I try amaroks auto find device, I get the following error "No new media devices were found. If you feel this is an error, ensure that the DBUS and HAL daemons are running and KDE was built with support for them. You can test this by running "dcop kded mediamanager fullList" in a Konsole window."
[11:52] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:52] <andrea> qnd l'hai messo a posto ti consiglio di scaricare beryl
[11:52] <zPlus> cos'
[11:52] <andrea> ohhh kubuntu-it grazie!!
[11:52] <andrea> sarebbe il gestore di finestre
[11:53] <andrea> ke ti fa tutti gli effetti ganzi
[11:53] <andrea> tipo il famoso cubo
[11:53] <andrea> ti deforma le finestre come se fosse pongo
[11:53] <andrea>  veramente favoloso
[11:53] <zPlus> ma la xge  uscita allora?
[11:53] <andrea> roba da far invidia mac
[11:53] <andrea> xge?
[11:53] <ubuntu> so when i instal program how to check it's open
[11:53] <kev1n_> is this a bloody italian site????
[11:54] <ubuntu> no kelvin
[11:54] <hyper_ch> !es
[11:54] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[11:54] <hyper_ch> !it
[11:54] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:55] <andrea> ma nn lo trovo kubuntu-it where is???
[11:55] <Fragrag> YES, YES, YES! I've fixed the problem I've been having the last days, and I fixed it despite digging myself deeper in it because I didn't read the instructions well, YES!
[11:55] <Fragrag> :D
[11:56] <Fragrag> What, no hugs?
[11:56] <cloakable> :P
[11:58] <zPlus> andrea xgl
[11:58] <Fragrag> Now for my second problem... No sound in Kopete
[12:00] <kev1n_> i have downloaded and installed java runtime environment using adept. Firefox says that it need JRE plugin. How do I fix that problem up?
[12:00] <hyper_ch> kev1n_: did you download the blackdown version?
[12:00] <kev1n_> probably not..... it was the cersion in adept
[12:00] <kev1n_> version even
[12:01] <hyper_ch> kev1n_: in the terminal enter:   sudo apt-get -y install j2re1.4
[12:02] <sebbar> hi, is there any way to turn off the sound coming from a flash movie in konqueror?
[12:02] <kev1n_> OK.... will do
[12:02] <hyper_ch> kev1n_: wait, take the "-y" out of it :)
[12:02] <kev1n_> ok...have not done anything as yet
[12:03] <hyper_ch> kev1n_: so that you see what packages are being removed, which ones installed and which ones are recommended :)
[12:03] <kev1n_> kewl.
[12:04] <zzzindows> anyone here use kroller?
[12:05] <hyper_ch> kev1n_: and if you get the message that the package is already up-to-date... well, then I don't know :)
[12:05] <linopil> in kde quick theme chnge with bigger fonts to see screen from afar ?
[12:06] <linopil> geia sou apokryphos
[12:06] <kev1n_> hyper-ch....everything is going along swimmingly well!
[12:06] <hyper_ch> kev1n_: so it worked?
[12:07] <kev1n_> still downloading
[12:07] <kev1n_> 40%
[12:07] <hyper_ch> kev1n_: ok :)
[12:07] <hyper_ch> afterwards you have to accept the EULA or something like that :)
[12:07] <linopil> cold tofay in northern hemisphere
[12:07] <hyper_ch> no, not really... actually pretty warm here...
[12:08] <kev1n_> yes... as usual for jave realted products.. thanks hyper_ch
[12:08] <linopil> what flash is the proper both for firefox and konqueror ?
[12:08] <linopil> *today
[12:08] <hyper_ch> kev1n_: :) the official java release is called "blackdown" so you can see what packages are available with the following command:   apt-cache search blackdown
[12:08] <kev1n_> Flash 9...but at this stage you have to install it manually
[12:09] <kev1n_> thanks hyper_ch
[12:09] <hyper_ch> kev1n_: you're welcome
[12:10] <vado> Bonjoir
[12:11] <kev1n_> hyper-ch... it just amazes me that blackdown does not come when you get it through adept....if it is the official release.
[12:12] <gnomefreak> kev1n_: sun-java5-* is the official releases of java
[12:12] <hyper_ch> kev1n_: since it has that accept thing stuff I assume that's the reason why ubuntu uses that fake thingy
[12:13] <hyper_ch> gnomefreak: ok... maybe I'm mistaken... what is then blackdown?
[12:14] <gnomefreak> blackdown is ubuntu built java before java changed its licence
[12:14] <gnomefreak> hyper_ch: java is now open source (in most aspects
[12:14] <gnomefreak> )
[12:14] <linopil> when     installing flashplugin-nonfree got warningwarning: /usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1 does not exist or is not a directory
[12:15] <kev1n_> it did not like installing blackdown at all
[12:15] <gnomefreak> im not sure if blackdown is even in repos still
[12:16] <hyper_ch> gnomefreak: well, it is for me
[12:16] <gnomefreak> hyper_ch: dapper edgy?
[12:16] <hyper_ch> gnomefreak: edgy
[12:16] <hyper_ch> kev1n_: then maybe you want to try the sun-java5- one
[12:16] <gnomefreak> it is here too :(
[12:17] <kev1n_> hyper_ch...OK
[12:17] <gnomefreak> java plugins for browsers install sun-java5-plugin :)
[12:17] <kev1n_> i will see what i can do...thanks for the help so far...
[12:17] <kev1n_> :)
[12:17] <gnomefreak> it will install jre and bin
[12:18] <hyper_ch> hmmm, what does one need java for anyway except for accessing university email accounts through the web-java-interface (Lotus Notes)?
[12:18] <linopil> in kde quick theme chnge with bigger fonts to see screen from afar ?
[12:19] <linopil> ima li bylgari tuk ?
[12:19] <kev1n_> hyper .... one of my web based chat clients requires java.
[12:20] <hyper_ch> kev1n_: oh :) I wonder why is Java still being used?
[12:20] <kev1n_> true!
[12:22] <hyper_ch> btw, any adivce on how to get a Palm LifeDrive to run with Kontact?
[12:24] <niblets> Anyone here know anything about iPod nanos being found by Amarok as iPod media devices?
[12:24] <hyper_ch> !nano
[12:24] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[12:24] <hyper_ch> !ipod
[12:24] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[12:24] <hyper_ch> !ipod_nano
[12:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipod_nano - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:25] <niblets> hyper_ch Have already done all that, it is an error with my amarok, not what I have odnw with it
[12:31] <londo4_> hallo evrybody? I need help with azureus
[12:31] <londo4_> how can I get it work?
[12:31] <hyper_ch> londo4_: install it
[12:32] <JohnFlux> londo4_: i prefer ktorrenrt
[12:32] <JohnFlux> londo4_: i prefer ktorrent
[12:32] <hyper_ch> I also use ktorrent
[12:33] <londo4_> hyper_ch:  Ok
[12:33] <londo4_> I have Ktorrent to
[12:33] <londo4_> too
[12:34] <londo4_> hyper_ch: But I do know how can I get it work
[12:34] <hyper_ch> install it, run it, add torrent lins...
[12:34] <hyper_ch> links
[12:35] <linopil> !smb
[12:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:36] <londo4_> hyper_ch: I have it run
[12:36] <hyper_ch> !samba
[12:36] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:37] <londo4_> hyper_ch: Where can I add torrent link?
[12:37] <hyper_ch> from websites
[12:37] <hyper_ch> dunno
[12:37] <hyper_ch> you know how to use torrent clients?
[12:38] <londo4_> hyper_ch: No I dont
[12:39] <gotcha> when I'm using TV-out to an plasma TV, what HorizSync and VertRefresh should I use, can't find any information from the TV specification
[12:40] <hyper_ch> !torrent
[12:40] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[12:41] <niblets> gtk-gnutella is way cooler =P
[12:44] <rich_> hi, how do I remove a superkaramba theme if the uninstall button is blank
[01:25] <brandon_> can anyone help me?  I have an MTP device, and Gnomad says it supports it, but I cannot connect to it.
[01:36] <brandon_> does anyone know how to do an mtp-detect?
[01:39] <cloakable> Nope
[01:43] <just-this-time> how to share xsane in kubuntu thru LAN ?
[01:43] <just-this-time> lupine_85,  hi
[01:51] <ml_> Ciao
[01:53] <ABIOS> ciao :D
[01:54] <ml_> E' la prima volta che uso kubuntu.. Qualcuno sa come installare la Canon i560?
[01:54] <Lynoure> !it
[01:54] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:55] <ml_> Thank you
[01:55] <Lynoure> but you can ask in English here
[01:56] <Lynoure> I'm not sure if Canon i560 works, let me check the printing site.
[01:56] <buz> Lynoure:it does
[01:56] <buz> you need to use some other canon driver
[01:56] <buz> try S600
[01:56] <buz> that works for me, anyway
[01:56] <buz> there are a few you can select, experiment ;)
[01:57] <Lynoure> buz: according to http://openprinting.org/printer_list.cgi?make=Canon not fully
[01:57] <buz> worked well enough for my use
[01:58] <buz> which is to say print black text ;)
[01:58] <ml_> I downloaded drivers from japan site: ftp://downloaded.canon.jp/pub/driver/bj/linux/ and converted in .deb, installed
[01:59] <Lynoure> buz: then you are much better than me to help ml_, I've never even had a Canon
[01:59] <buz> i didnt try that driver
[01:59] <buz> supposedly it does work
[01:59] <buz> i've since replaced the inkjet with a laser
[02:01] <runner48> Well, hello there. First of wish you all a happy new year. I am having a problem running the Kubuntu liveCD. When I start my Acer Aspire 5040 laptop (AMD Turion Processor) get a message "BIOS BUG" and then the system hangs. I have also trid the liveCD of Ubuntu and there result was the same. I hope that you could give me some advises. Thank you!
[02:02] <ml_> Ok.. I'll go to kubuntu-it, by by
[02:07] <runner48> I have to go back to work. So if anyone has any idea that would be great if he/she sends an email to this address: walker@dse.nl Thx in advance. Wish you all a nice day
[02:11] <computer> what do i do with .emerald files guys
[02:11] <just-this-time> ubuntu-xgl
[02:11] <computer> yes anything else besides asking me to join a channel that i already am in? =)
[02:12] <just-this-time> just suggesting it is more useful for your topic
[02:13] <computer> thx =)
[02:13] <computer> i was just putting it out there =)
[02:13] <computer> well i guess i should sleep anyway
[02:13] <computer> it's 5 am here lol
[02:13] <Jucato> it actually has little to do with KDE... as it is not part of KDE... hence the suggestion of another channel...
[02:28] <triki> anyone know how to convert avi's to mp4 in kubuntu ?
[02:28] <tsdgeos> triki: use mencoder
[02:29] <triki> ok i'll try that
[02:29] <triki> thanks
[02:32] <triki> what about ffmpeg
[02:32] <ubuntu> Hello
[02:33] <ubuntu> Salut
[02:34] <ubuntu> Hi
[02:35] <emonkey> hi
[02:43] <daniel_at> hello! does anybody know a programm, to generate a grid of images from a movie (avi, mpeg,...) like often seen in the web as a preview to a film?
[02:46] <joseba> hola
[02:53] <tsdgeos> !es
[02:53] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[02:57] <abcdefg> uiuiu
[03:04] <ml_> Who use printer Canon i560 on Kubuntu 6.10 Edgy?
[03:08] <klerfayt> how do I disable frambuffer?
[03:08] <klerfayt> is it vga=normal or something?
[03:09] <klerfayt> or can it be nofb?
[03:16] <tomekk> hi
[03:16] <tomekk> I have a problem
[03:17] <tomekk> because I installed nvidia drivers and my modul "Display" was crashed
[03:17] <The_Machine> any idea why it doesn't actually set the background to the image i specify when in firefox i set the background?  (know what i'm sayin?)
[03:17] <tomekk> in Kubuntu 6.06.1
[03:17] <thepianoguy> my kubuntu freezes upon startup after loading USB core using 2.6.19 and 2.6.20 kernels in feisty
[03:17] <thepianoguy> is this normal?
[03:21] <parsek> why cant my xmms play music over LAN?, amarok does it but its slow at times, if I copy the file to my harddisk xmms and amarok play it fine
[03:21] <|lostbyte|> Could you give me a headstart on how i could write to file "text_xxxx" where xxxx are series of no ?
[03:31] <tomekk>  I have a problem
[03:31] <tomekk> (15:21:00)  #  Uytkownik thepianoguy wszed na kana #kubuntu
[03:31] <tomekk> (15:21:03)  tomekk:  because I installed nvidia drivers and my modul "Display" was crashed
[03:33] <linopil> http://cargol.net/~ramon/ubuntu-dvd-en
[03:33] <linopil> know any other burn set for miroring site?
[03:33] <linopil> like that ? http://cargol.net/~ramon/ubuntu-dvd-en
[03:34] <adz21c> tomekk: you tried going back to not using the nvidia driver?
[03:34] <tomekk> how ?
[03:36] <benjamin> test
[03:36] <adz21c> tomekk: go to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and edit it (sudo/root) find the line where it has set you gfx driver to nvidia and change it to nv
[03:36] <tomekk> och yes ...
[03:36] <tomekk> ok
[03:37] <tomekk> and what I will be doing ??
[03:37] <adz21c> tomekk: what do you mean?
[03:37] <tomekk> after I change from nvidia to nv
[03:37] <tomekk> .....
[03:38] <adz21c> tomekk: putting your graphics back from the nvidia driver .... u say its crashed i am assuming you can't get back into gui?
[03:38] <tomekk> I want install a nvidia drivers
[03:39] <tomekk> no ...I may to change this xorg
[03:39] <flaccid> !envy
[03:39] <ubotu> envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy
[03:39] <tomekk> no problem
[03:43] <rag> hello all
[03:43] <rag> some body restore kde taskbar, it disspear for me!
[03:43] <rag> :)
[03:43] <Hobbsee> ra'
[03:44] <Hobbsee> rag: alt+f2, type killall kicker && kicker
[03:44] <rag> ok thx i try
[03:44] <rag> uhm!
[03:44] <rag> :)
[03:44] <rag> thanks
[03:44] <Hobbsee> :)
[03:45] <rag> Hobbsee: oh!
[03:45] <rag> Hobbsee: it disappear for me again ...
[03:45] <Hobbsee> rag: that's not good...
[03:45] <rag> Hobbsee: a problem, this user want her taskbar :(
[03:46] <Hobbsee> rag: alt+f2, type konsole, then paste rm -rf ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc which *should* stop it crashing
[03:46] <vge> hey, is it possible to put somekind of filter in konsole to show syntax colouring in code files when using in distance file in nano over ssh for example?
[03:46] <vge> did that make any sense
[03:46] <Hobbsee> vge: no
[03:47] <Hobbsee> rag: alt+f2, type konsole, then paste "rm ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc && rm -r .kde/share/apps/kicker" without the quotes which *should* stop it crashing
[03:47] <angelo> hi..
[03:47] <Hobbsee> hey angelo
[03:47] <angelo> this is channel is italian??
[03:47] <Hobbsee> vge: parser failed.  twice :P
[03:47] <Hobbsee> nope
[03:47] <Hobbsee> !it
[03:47] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:47] <Hobbsee> !it | angelo
[03:47] <ubotu> angelo: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:47] <rag> Hobbsee: ok it show me again, i put default value all things
[03:47] <angelo> ^_^
[03:47] <vge> Hobbsee: so it have been trid to build?
[03:48] <rag> Hobbsee: this problem appear when user setup taskbar hide auto...
[03:48] <Hobbsee> rag: ok
[03:48] <Hobbsee> rag: oh right.  not sure why it's crashing
[03:48] <rag> already it works
[03:48] <rag> Hobbsee: np
[03:48] <rag> Hobbsee: i have more tasks :)
[03:48] <Hobbsee> vge: i dont understand what you're asking
[03:48] <rag> Hobbsee: but you help me , thx!
[03:48] <Hobbsee> rag: yay, OK
[03:48] <Hobbsee> :)
[03:49] <Hobbsee> vge: oh, you mean like syntax highlighting in vi?
[03:49] <vge> Hobbsee: or in kate or something
[03:50] <vge> Hobbsee: but im using the file trought konsole in distance ssh server
[03:50] <Hobbsee> vge: i'd check out http://wiki.linuxhelp.net/index.php/Nano_Syntax_Highlighting
[03:50] <Hobbsee> vge: yeah, so you're using nano, not kate
[03:50] <chupa-chups> hello every body
[03:50] <chupa-chups> i have a q
[03:51] <Hobbsee> !ask | chupa-chups
[03:51] <ubotu> chupa-chups: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:51] <str> Hi there!
[03:51] <Hobbsee> vge: of course, the ~ referred to in that howto will refer to the ~ on the remote system, ie the one you're sshing into
[03:51] <Hobbsee> hey str
[03:51] <chupa-chups> 2 operating systems on one disk  , is it harmful for the disk and shorts the life time of the disk ???
[03:52] <chupa-chups> i have win xp , kubuntu
[03:52] <Hobbsee> chupa-chups: not that i know of
[03:53] <chupa-chups> so i want to ask some one , where can i ask about that
[03:54] <Hobbsee> chupa-chups: i've never heard of a problem with that
[03:54] <Hobbsee> !dual boot
[03:54] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[03:54] <Hobbsee> chupa-chups: ^
[04:03] <rag> Hobbsee: for change keyboard , touch xorg.conf no?
[04:04] <Hobbsee> rag: as in the language of it?
[04:04] <rag> Hobbsee: Option          "XkbLayout"     "es"
[04:04] <Hobbsee> rag: should be able to do that in system settings, regional and language, keyboard layout
[04:04] <Pupeno_> Hello.
[04:07] <rag> Hobbsee: i have setxkbmap -model pc105 -layout es
[04:07] <Hobbsee> rag: you can change it there if you like
[04:07] <rag> Hobbsee: on settings, but not works
[04:07] <Hobbsee> hrm.  change it in xorg.conf then
[04:08] <vge> Hobbsee: ty, we got it to work, mutch better ty
[04:08] <vge> and ty
[04:09] <Hobbsee> :)
[04:10] <Schuenemann> is it possible to use Kubuntu to allow only some machines of my network to access internet?
[04:11] <chupa-chups> hi all
[04:11] <Schuenemann> !br
[04:11] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[04:12] <bele> !sudo
[04:12] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:12] <Schuenemann> !iptables
[04:12] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[04:12] <chupa-chups> i just ask about if i have 2 operating system , does it harm the disk , short te disk lifetime ???????????????
[04:14] <chupa-chups> helloooooooooooooooo
[04:15] <chupa-chups> any body hear me ?????????????
[04:15] <TheGateKeeper> chupa-chups, no it doesn't
[04:15] <chupa-chups> r u sure
[04:15] <TheGateKeeper> why would it?
[04:15] <chupa-chups> 2 file systems on the same disk
[04:15] <Schuenemann> it's just a bunch of files, anyway
[04:15] <TheGateKeeper> no makes no difference
[04:16] <chupa-chups> somebody told me that thank u
[04:16] <chupa-chups>  thank u
[04:16] <TheGateKeeper> chupa-chups, I run kubuntu / gentoo dual boot on this disk, which has 4 partitions
[04:17] <chupa-chups> in the past i had win 98 and 2000
[04:17] <chupa-chups> it doesnt harm the disk
[04:17] <TheGateKeeper> no it doesn't
[04:17] <chupa-chups> but iam taliking about win xp and kubuntu
[04:18] <TheGateKeeper> windows of any variety has security problems but that is another story lol
[04:18] <chupa-chups> that is why iam asking
[04:19] <TheGateKeeper> if you are asking is windows basically insecure the answer is yes
[04:20] <vinboy> TheGateKeeper: why do u use both gentoo/kubuntu?
[04:21] <TheGateKeeper> vinboy, well I originally installed kubuntu, then decided to try gentoo, eventually kubuntu will be replaced by sabayon (which is based on gentoo), basically historical
[04:21] <chupa-chups> i know that win has many problims , but the main problem for me is ( win xp + kubuntu does it harm the disk )
[04:22] <TheGateKeeper> chupa-chups, I think we have answerd that question
[04:22] <TheGateKeeper> answered*
[04:22] <chupa-chups> thanx 4 answer but u r talking in another issue and i explain wt i mean
[04:23] <rganti> I see the problem that my kubuntu says unable to connect to local host
[04:23] <chupa-chups> i have another q
[04:23] <rganti> can any answer for this question?
[04:23] <chupa-chups> why do i have to install win first then kubuntu
[04:23] <Schuenemann> because win will erase the boot
[04:23] <chupa-chups> ok u r welcome
[04:24] <chupa-chups> ok
[04:24] <chupa-chups> i f i want to reinstall win , then i have to reinstll kubuntu too ??
[04:24] <TheGateKeeper> chupa-chups, because windows thinks that it is the ONLY OS in the world, you can do it the other way round, it's just a bit more tricky
[04:25] <vinboy> TheGateKeeper: is sabayon any good?
[04:25] <flaccid> is there a system service manager for kubuntu
[04:25] <chupa-chups> ok
[04:25] <rganti> Hello this is rganti can any one look at me?
[04:25] <TheGateKeeper> vinboy, the livecd looks very cool, & sabayon is basically gentoo
[04:25] <rganti> I new to this Konversation and Ubuntu
[04:26] <chupa-chups> welcome rganti
[04:26] <TheGateKeeper> vinboy, gentoo, rocks, but NOT for first timers
[04:26] <vinboy> ic
[04:26] <rganti> thanks chupa-chups
[04:26] <TheGateKeeper> vinboy, how long you be using linux?
[04:26] <rganti> for responding to me
[04:26] <rganti> What is happening is after I login to Kubuntu Linux on my PC
[04:27] <chupa-chups> ok , wt destros of linux is better than kubuntu
[04:27] <rganti> when I tried to connect to Kontact Perosonal Information Manager
[04:27] <chupa-chups> sorry
[04:27] <TheGateKeeper> rganti, well one would hope that you get a desktop lol
[04:27] <vinboy> TheGateKeeper: 1 year
[04:27] <vinboy> TheGateKeeper: i use gentoo fulltime
[04:28] <rganti> Then I am getting a message "Could not connect to local host"
[04:28] <chupa-chups> wt destros of linux is better than kubuntu
[04:28] <TheGateKeeper> vinboy, well if you know gentoo, you will have very little with sabayon
[04:29] <Pensa`MIA> when I try to compile something I get this: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[04:29] <Pensa`MIA> how to fix it?
[04:29] <TheGateKeeper> vinboy, what desktop do you use?
[04:29] <vinboy> ?
[04:29] <chupa-chups> what destros of linux is better than kubuntu ????????????????
[04:29] <chupa-chups> any body give me answer
[04:30] <cloakable> chupa-chups: What do yu want to do?
[04:30] <cloakable> *you
[04:30] <TheGateKeeper> vinboy, KDE, GNOME, xfce, or something else ?
[04:30] <rganti> can I get response to my question also please?
[04:30] <vinboy> kde
[04:30] <vinboy> i love kde
[04:31] <TheGateKeeper> vinboy, get the sabayon livedvd & run it up
[04:31] <rganti> how to get latest gtk 2.10 version from Adept?
[04:31] <rganti> From Adept Manager?
[04:31] <chupa-chups> i just wanna know what destros of linux is better than kubuntu ????????????????
[04:32] <hyper_ch> chupa-chups: that's a matter of personal taste and preference
[04:32] <chupa-chups> which of them has better performance
[04:32] <chupa-chups> or kubuntu enough
[04:32] <hyper_ch> chupa-chups: that's a matter of personal taste and preference
[04:32] <chupa-chups> mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[04:33] <rganti> no one answering to my questions here
[04:33] <vinboy> TheGateKeeper: the size is pretty big
[04:33] <chupa-chups> i think kubuntu doesnt give me all that i need
[04:34] <TheGateKeeper> vinboy, yes there is a lot installed by default, including google world
[04:34] <hyper_ch> rganti: maybe no one knows
[04:34] <chupa-chups> till now i cant get dicionary , cannot deal with programs with other language
[04:34] <TheGateKeeper> chupa-chups, http://za1012001.googlepages.com/
[04:34] <rganti> I am getting a simple error "Ubable to connect to local host"
[04:35] <vinboy> Sabayon differs from Gentoo in that instead of installing the entire operating system from source code, the initial install is made using pre-compiled binary packages
[04:36] <tony__> hello everyone .. im trying to install program in dep format . i get error regardign depends packages. is that ok to install  those packages manually ?? or there is something else i should be doieng
[04:37] <DaSkreech> !adept crash fix
[04:37] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[04:39] <tony__> i think kubuntu is the best desktop
[04:39] <tony__> i found to be easiest OS to install :| eaiser then window .. ;)
[04:40] <DaSkreech> tony__: Welcome :)
[04:40] <tony__> thanks.
[04:40] <tony__> now to me my problme
[04:40] <tony__> lol
[04:40] <tony__> trying to install cinelerra
[04:40] <DaSkreech> yeah
[04:40] <tony__> i need about 10 packages .. can i install them manually
[04:41] <DaSkreech> !info cinelerra
[04:41] <ubotu> Package cinelerra does not exist in any distro I know
[04:41] <tony__> i get the error duing installation that missing depends
[04:41] <tony__> this is Movie editing program for linux
[04:41] <tony__> is not in repo
[04:42] <tony__> but all the depends packages are in repo which are not installed by default
[04:42] <DaSkreech> How can it not be in repo? :(
[04:42] <tony__> i have no idea. but it is not
[04:42] <tony__> i foun two of them one called kino , and this one
[04:43] <tony__> cinelerra by far seems to be more powerfull editing
[04:43] <tony__> although i found .dep package of the net
[04:44] <TheGateKeeper> vinboy, yes
[04:45] <tony__> i will install the packages manully , hope nothing crash when im done
[04:45] <knapp> how can you burn a Video DVD with k3b? I don't see an option...
[04:46] <tony__> Go to Tools , Copy DVD
[04:48] <knapp> tony__ I mean from VOBs.
[04:50] <tony__> then  i have no idea . sorry .
[04:51] <DaSkreech> Where did you find the deb file?
[04:51] <hastesaver> knapp, "New Video DVD project" *is* there in the menu, but you might want to use qdvdauthor
[04:52] <tony__> humm hold on . let me look the site again
[04:52] <knapp> hastesaver, thanks!
[04:53] <hastesaver> tony__, was it here: http://www.kiberpipa.org/~muzzol/cinelerra/bin/ ?
[04:54] <tony__> yes
[04:54] <tony__> i was looking for that
[04:57] <tony__> it would be awsom if someone package this for KUBUNTU :)
[04:57] <tony__> i personally would be great full
[04:59] <hastesaver> tony__, there are licensing issues: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=331072
[04:59] <tony__> i see
[04:59] <hastesaver> tony__, pity, because it's trivial to fix
[05:00] <hastesaver> tony__, Debian's problem is that some of the files don't come with a licence, but cinelerra is very much a GPL project :)
[05:00] <tony__> didn't even think if there is problmes like that for linux .. ( licencing )
[05:01] <soulrider> hi
[05:01] <tony__> i looked at the packages that i missing.. although i have them all in adapt. but some seems not the exact version so
[05:01] <soulrider> has anyone here ever used GTKRadiant ?
[05:01] <tony__> i m pretty scared on going about to install those packages
[05:01] <hastesaver> tony__, that's usually the *major* problem against including something in the repos :-)
[05:01] <tony__> pitty.. realy .. this program seems to be very capabale even compare to some i seen on window
[05:02] <mneisen> hi, is it possible to install kubuntu i386 on an AMD64 machine?
[05:02] <andreasw> yes it is
[05:03] <mneisen> andreasw: any drawbacks besides the obvious (no 64 bit mode)?
[05:03] <hastesaver> tony__, didn't running the .deb work?
[05:03] <tony__> i should put my fear aside and start installing the depencies :) .. well, im good at crashing stuff :) ..
[05:03] <tony__> it dose , but i missing 10 depndency :)
[05:03] <tony__> all have soemthing to do with mpeg and streaming
[05:04] <tony__> so during initial install , gives the errror and exit the install
[05:04] <Ricardo_Ram> I need to report a BIG BUG of Kubuntu
[05:04] <Ricardo_Ram> Where can I report it?
[05:04] <tony__> what is the bug ???
[05:04] <Ricardo_Ram> There is a big problem in Ubuntu with the USB Flash Drives.
[05:05] <Ricardo_Ram> 
[05:05] <Ricardo_Ram> When the user deletes files in an USB Flash Drive, Ubuntu creates a "Trash Bin" (called " .Trash1000) that uses a lot of space.
[05:05] <Ricardo_Ram> 
[05:05] <Ricardo_Ram> This "Trash Bin" is invisible in Linux, but in can be viewed in Microsoft Windows. An screenshot of this "Trash Bin" is available here. If an user deletes a file in an USB Pen Drive should be deleted definitively.
[05:05] <Ricardo_Ram> 
[05:05] <Ricardo_Ram> Yours truly,
[05:05] <Ricardo_Ram> 
[05:05] <Ricardo_Ram> Ricardo Ramrez
[05:05] <Ricardo_Ram> Ccuta, Colombia
[05:05] <Ricardo_Ram> #ubuntu
[05:06] <tony__> i guess. i have the problme with my external harddrive ( usb ) Is no longer functioning , either in window or linux ..
[05:06] <tony__> something went wrong while i was working with it in linux
[05:07] <tony__> dose anyone experiance slow internet browsing with new kubuntu ???
[05:09] <Tesla> tony__: what version of kubuntu do you mean?
[05:10] <tony__> im using 6.10 edgy . i believe , thats the latest i downed .. i386
[05:10] <Tesla> i do use it too. surfing as usual with opera and konqeror
[05:11] <tony__> i read in ubuntu forum , with instruction on disableing ipv6 from a file . i did , but still same
[05:11] <sivaji> sudarsan where are u
[05:11] <Tesla> tony__: what browser do you use?
[05:11] <tony__> not me thoug.. FF, opera, konqueror is slow
[05:11] <frank__> bah. where do I change mouse speed? I don't see it in system settings
[05:11] <tony__> when i boot to window , i have no problme ..
[05:11] <andreasw> KDE_NO_IPV6=1 that solved the problem
[05:12] <andreasw> in /etc/environment
[05:12] <soulrider> !es
[05:12] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:12] <tony__> thanks. i will do that now
[05:12] <crimson> anyone here any good with perl?
[05:12] <frank__> oh. it's called pointer acceleration
[05:12] <mneisen> !de
[05:12] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:13] <jerp> in the sentence used in the font selector, the letter s is left out .... it is posted "The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog."  ...... jump(ed) should be jump(s)
[05:13] <mythtv> hi
[05:13] <andreasw> ubotu: But I want to talk english rather than german ;)
[05:13] <mythtv> anyone got mythtv working?
[05:14] <daedra> ubotu is a bot
[05:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:14] <andreasw> daedra: ah ok ^^
[05:14] <andreasw> I like talking to bots hehe
[05:15] <andreasw> they don't argue with you
[05:15] <Tesla> lol
[05:16] <brandon_> does anyone know how to install glx?  I've already installed the nvidia drivers and glxgears does not work
[05:16] <tony__> DO i need to reboot the system in order to see the effect of turning off IPV6 ?
[05:16] <brandon_> maybe restart X
[05:16] <tony__> thanks.
[05:17] <brandon_> i just don't know the code to do so
[05:17] <sivaji_> tell me how to use irc
[05:17] <brandon_> .. /join or /j #roomname
[05:17] <brandon_> get the room list from the program
[05:18] <brandon_> F5
[05:18] <brandon_> for room list
[05:18] <brandon_> how do I install xgl
[05:19] <soulrider> brandon_: there are nice tutorials on http://ubuntuforums.org
[05:19] <soulrider> !css
[05:19] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:20] <tony_> Thanks.. it appears that solve the problme of browsing
[05:21] <horst23> Do you think that Britney Spears is a slutish women?
[05:21] <horst23> +a
[05:22] <TheGateKeeper> horst23, bring her round to our house & I will find out for you lol
[05:23] <brandon_> okay glx is enabled and my display still seems laggy
[05:23] <horst23> Are you a brotha? Gangbang?
[05:23] <soulrider> did you restart x ?
[05:24] <soulrider> horst23: i dont think you want to go on talking like that =/
[05:24] <horst23> yeah, allright budy
[05:24] <rich434> How do you uninstall the old firefox and its plugins
[05:24] <daedra> horst23: have another look at the channel name and topic lol
[05:25] <horst23> it's not a sexual chat, rather a geek one lol
[05:25] <tony_> i think it would be best to uninstall plugins from with it firefox first
[05:26] <tony_> then use Adept to request removal of firefox from the system :|
[05:26] <tony_> im just guessing
[05:26] <TheGateKeeper> rich434, apt-get remove --purge <package>
[05:26] <tony_> yehh.
[05:26] <tony_> that too
[05:26] <tony_> lol
[05:28] <daedra> hey does the purge flag pull the plugins with it?
[05:32] <TheGateKeeper> daedra, not sure, apt-get is very good at installing software, but not so hot at removing unwanted dependencies etc
[05:32] <TheGateKeeper> probable not might have to do that manually
[05:33] <hastesaver> TheGateKeeper, apt-get autoremove ?
[05:33] <birge> hi all
[05:33] <andreasw> hi
[05:33] <birge> can U help me a bit?
[05:33] <TheGateKeeper> hastesaver, not used that, maybe
[05:33] <andreasw> birge: depends on your problem ^^
[05:34] <birge> how can i check, if my kubuntu recognises the soundcard?
[05:34] <andreasw> hmm switching on your speakers and play back some CD
[05:34] <andreasw> hehe
[05:34] <rich434> does the repository have firefox2 in it?
[05:34] <birge> well, that's the problem
[05:34] <birge> yesterday i had voice, today not
[05:35] <soulrider> brownedwg89: go to  K Menu > Syetem > Kubuntu devide database
[05:35] <hastesaver> !info firefox
[05:35] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0+0dfsg-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 28588 kB
[05:35] <andreasw> birge: Did you check the mixer if pcm or the main channel is muted?
[05:35] <TheGateKeeper> rich434, edgy one does
[05:35] <birge> yep
[05:35] <birge> it's ok
[05:35] <TheGateKeeper> http://www.ubuntu.com/FixForUpgradeIssue
[05:36] <TheGateKeeper> deborphan can also be used, but with a LOT of care
[05:36] <horsti> do you know a math chat?
[05:37] <soulrider> math chat ?
[05:37] <horsti> yeah, a chat about mathematica
[05:37] <soulrider> as in "ask things about math"
[05:37] <andreasw> birge: Did you try only a music CD or also mp3s
[05:37] <horsti> yeah, rider for example
[05:37] <birge> i tried mp3, and youtube...
[05:37] <TheGateKeeper> rich434, you might this usefull http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20001
[05:37] <x-factor> !mp3
[05:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:38] <birge> amarok don't even play the file, it says that playlist finished
[05:38] <soulrider> sound isnt muted right? and your speakers are connected right ?
[05:38] <hastesaver> horsti, what is a rider?
[05:38] <daniel_at> does anybody know a _good_ gui alternative for ark?
[05:38] <soulrider> i think he meant me :P
[05:38] <birge> yep
[05:38] <rich434> thanks :)
[05:38] <birge> i checked twice
[05:38] <TheGateKeeper> birge, xine engine & install libxine-extracodecs
[05:38] <horsti> i meant soulrider
[05:39] <soulrider> horsti: i might be able to help you
[05:39] <horsti> that would be nice
[05:39] <FlightOfStairs> hello people
[05:39] <birge> well, i am a totally newbie, so can you help me a bit more? i always used windows, i am penguin-blond:)
[05:39] <horsti> can you tell me the chanel or url or somelike...
[05:40] <horsti> sry i'm not registered
[05:40] <TheGateKeeper> birge, have you got edgy or dapper installed?
[05:40] <soulrider> ok
[05:40] <soulrider> i dont know any sites or forums, but i may be able to answer your questions, but we better go to offtopic
[05:40] <soulrider> !offtopic
[05:40] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[05:40] <birge> well, i have to check i think
[05:40] <FlightOfStairs> how would I be able to do a very minimal install of kubuntu, for flash disks and stuff (is it even possible?)? the standard install from the cd requires 2Gb+
[05:41] <TheGateKeeper> birge, hang on...
[05:41] <daedra> how do you install the newest version of firefox when 'apt-get install firefox' outputs that 1.5 is the newest
[05:41] <birge> im sort of giving up
[05:41] <daedra> i want 2.0
[05:41] <birge> but i dont want to
[05:42] <sivaji_> ple tell me how to register
[05:42] <birge> i can't find edgy or dapper...
[05:42] <tony_> don't give up man
[05:42] <sivaji_> ple tell me how to register
[05:42] <TheGateKeeper> birge, open up konsole & paste this command in please & tell me what it says: cat /proc/version
[05:42] <sivaji_> ple tell me how to register
[05:42] <sivaji_> ple tell me how to register
[05:42] <birge> if it isnt in the original pack, maybe i dont have them.. i didnt get installed anything but firefox
[05:43] <birge> Linux version 2.6.15-23-386 (buildd@rothera) (gcc version 4.0.3 (Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5)) #1 PREEMPT Tue May 23 13:49:40 UTC 2006
[05:43] <sivaji_> i got ""
[05:43] <sivaji_> sivaji@sivaji-desktop:~$ cat /proc/version
[05:43] <sivaji_> Linux version 2.6.15-27-386 (buildd@terranova) (gcc version 4.0.3 (Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5)) #1 PREEMPT Fri Dec 8 17:51:56 UTC 2006
[05:43] <sivaji_> sivaji@sivaji-desktop:~$ cat /proc/version
[05:44] <TheGateKeeper> birge, damn try this: grep RELEASE /etc/lsb-release |cut -b 17-
[05:45] <birge> 6.06
[05:46] <TheGateKeeper> birge, you got dapper
[05:47] <tony_> how can you tell from all that , that is dapper or edgy ?
[05:47] <TheGateKeeper> birge, have a little read of this
[05:47] <TheGateKeeper> http://za1012001.googlepages.com/%28k%29ubuntunotes
[05:47] <TheGateKeeper> ^^^
[05:48] <birge> thx
[05:48] <hastesaver> TheGateKeeper, lsb_release -d works, too :-)
[05:49] <TheGateKeeper> hastesaver, thanx :-)
[05:50] <rich434> is it possible to add an edgy repository to get firefox 2 on 6.06 dapper?
[05:51] <daedra> thats exactly what I want to know ^^
[05:51] <daniel_at> !ark
[05:51] <ubotu> ark: graphical archiving tool for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 287 kB, installed size 1004 kB
[05:53] <TheGateKeeper> rich434, daedra  nope you have to that url howto I gave you
[05:57] <sivaji__> help me
[05:57] <andreasw> Define your problem and maybe we are able to help you
[05:57] <TheGateKeeper> sivaji, what exactly is the problem?
[05:57] <andreasw> ;)
[05:58] <sivaji__> thank god
[05:58] <sivaji__> i cant communicate with other
[05:58] <TheGateKeeper> other what?
[05:59] <sivaji__> i mean other host
[06:00] <sivaji__> how to register her how to use this icr
[06:00] <rance> Can someone recommend a sound card that works in kubuntu? I have a via based sound card integrated in the MB and kubuntu can't make it work, It can proprerly id the device and load the correct kernel-module for it, but I still can't use it
[06:01] <sivaji__> i get this error report {Nickname already in use. Trying sivaji_.}
[06:01] <TheGateKeeper> sivaji, http://www.irchighway.net/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=107
[06:02] <tony_> you said , you had sound before ??? if thats the case , then kubuntu can work with your sound card
[06:03] <sivaji__> i get this error report {Nickname already in use. Trying sivaji_.}
[06:03] <tony_> just change your nickname
[06:04] <jerp> sivaji__: your current nick has two underlines  _ _ in it, a person can't have two connections with the same nick
[06:05] <rance> tony_ if you were talking to me about sound, yes, I can change which module loads for my card and get sound, but in doing so I only get kde system sounds, and other apps (specifically vmware) can't use the sound device
[06:06] <tony_> rance im myself new to linux.. and i been using nvidia integrated sound.. so be honest i have no clue .. but mine worked on a first boot ..
[06:10] <ABIOS> from everything i've lost i miss my mind the most :D
[06:10] <ABIOS> isn't that the woodchopper class :D
[06:10] <jerp> rance, is a mixer loaded
[06:11] <jerp> soemthing like an alsa mixer
[06:11] <jerp> I don't know if it helps for you but I had trouble with sound til I installed that
[06:12] <jerp> in kubuntu it's called kmix
[06:12] <manuel__> ola
[06:13] <MHK> Hi all.
[06:13] <jerp> hello manuel,  you might be better severed if you go to a spanish channel
[06:13] <ABIOS> bye you
[06:13] <ABIOS> LD
[06:13] <daedra> severed lol
[06:13] <MHK> how can i install OOO2.1
[06:13] <MHK> ?
[06:14] <jerp> a typo pun
[06:14] <jerp> served
[06:16] <VincentMX> hi
[06:16] <jerp> hey vincentMX
[06:16] <VincentMX> is there any way i can make apache go through eth1 and the rest through eth0?
[06:17] <jerp> two cards?
[06:17] <VincentMX> yes
[06:17] <jerp> I was hoping you'd say no
[06:19] <jerp> try an apache channel, newbs are in control here for right now.
[06:19] <VincentMX> ok
[06:20] <invitado_> jhfdhj
[06:20] <invitado_> holas
[06:20] <invitado_> bueno
[06:20] <malik__> !es
[06:20] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:21] <malik__> how do we update kernel?
[06:23] <jerp> malik, what do you mean?
[06:23] <jerp> install the latest from the repositories?
[06:23] <soulrider> malik__: if a new kernell update is available, apt-get/adept or whatever will install it
[06:24] <soulrider> or you can compile your own
[06:24] <soulrider> whoch unloess youre pro, i dont recommend
[06:25] <jerp> install the latest, uninstall the older one (beware, the one you are currently using won't uninstall)  reboot, watch for grub .... select the newer kernel.... and when you finally boot, go back and uninstall the old kernel
[06:26] <jerp> uninstall the older one (beware, the one you are currently using won't uninstall)  what will unisntall are the modules, not the kernel itself
[06:27] <jerp> enter grub with the escape key
[06:27] <malik__> well i dont know if i am using the right kind of kernel or not
[06:28] <malik__> i am using p4 3.0Ghz comp
[06:28] <jerp> what are your troubles?
[06:28] <jerp> with an intel cpu?
[06:29] <malik__> nothin its just when i was using fedora, it used to use latest kernewl
[06:29] <malik__> yes intel p4 3.0Ghz cpu one gig ddr ram
[06:29] <jerp> ok you said p4, that's intel
[06:30] <malik__> i just checked it n kubuntu edgy is tellin me that that i am using ............Linux malik-desktop 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Tue Dec 5 22:28:26 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:30] <MHK> hey guys, how can install manually openoffice2.1?
[06:30] <malik__> i dont know if its correct version for my mechine or not
[06:31] <sivaji> sivaji register 106051040472009 sivaji_2009@yahoo.com
[06:34] <malik__> MHK: add the repository from their website and use apt-get
[06:35] <jerp> malik, I think that is correct version
[06:35] <MHK> malik__ where do i find this?
[06:37] <linopil>  guys too few peers for ubuntu dvd burn pls join to download and share torrents http://cargol.net/~ramon/ubuntu-dvd-en
[06:40] <malik__> MHK: http://download.openoffice.org/2.1.0/index.html    ........ goto this page download it and u can install by clicking file. but its a big download abt 120mb
[06:40] <jerp> my install kernel was 2.6.17-10-amd64-generic  and that was because generic is the safe route to install, I later installed the specific kernel ......2.6.17.10-amd64-k8
[06:41] <MHK> malik_
[06:41] <MHK> malik__ well, i got it. but i can't install it. tried it with dpkg -i *.deb
[06:42] <malik__> what kinda file is it? .deb?
[06:43] <MHK> jep
[06:43] <malik__> how do i get specific 626 or 388 kernel?
[06:44] <MHK> got a huge bundle of deb-files some named with the program name and some with "core0x"
[06:44] <jerp> malik, it should be in you repository
[06:44] <TheGateKeeper> malik__, they are in the repos or look at the forums to build your own
[06:44] <cloakable> malik__: You using Edgy or Dapper?
[06:44] <malik__> jerp: where can i find specific kernel coz i cant see it coming up in my repos i.e. adept
[06:44] <cloakable> malik__: You using Edgy or Dapper?
[06:44] <MHK> malik__ looks like only feisty can handle OOO2.1
[06:45] <malik__> edgy
[06:45] <Pensacola> how to change kubuntu sounds for maximizing windows and stuff?
[06:45] <cloakable> malik__: edgy has only two kernels - a generic one, and a server one.
[06:45] <malik__> aaaaaaah oki.....thanx guyz
[06:45] <malik__> oki doki me gotta run
[06:46] <malik__> Mrs is calling
[06:46] <hazard> hi
[06:53] <jerp> Pensacola: there is a small section in the system settings
[06:54] <jerp> top line, "sounds multimedia"
[06:54] <Pensacola> thx, found it
[06:54] <jerp> "system sounds"
[07:01] <dettoaltrimenti_> what is the program to run xwindows from the terminal?
[07:01] <DaSkreech> dettoaltrimenti_: xwindows?
[07:02] <dettoaltrimenti_> daskreech: no
[07:02] <cloakable> dettoaltrimenti_: startx
[07:02] <DaSkreech> I was asking what is xwindows?
[07:03] <cloakable> DaSkreech: The X windowing server
[07:03] <dettoaltrimenti_> heh sorry daskreech
[07:03] <DaSkreech> He could have ment xnest
[07:03] <dettoaltrimenti_> what does beryl replace?
[07:03] <DaSkreech> dettoaltrimenti_: Your current window manager
[07:04] <dettoaltrimenti_> so, is my windows manager.... kde?
[07:05] <DaSkreech> kwin
[07:05] <DaSkreech> Most likely
[07:05] <cloakable> dettoaltrimenti_: That's the desktop enviroment
[07:07] <dettoaltrimenti> sorry about all that- the problem is fixed
[07:08] <Captain_Haddock> !java
[07:08] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[07:10] <andreasw> !microsoft
[07:10] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[07:11] <andreasw> ^^
[07:11] <andreasw> !universal_peace
[07:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about universal_peace - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:11] <DaSkreech> !killinag all humans
[07:12] <DaSkreech> !killing all humans
[07:12] <DaSkreech> Drat :(
[07:12] <andreasw> try _
[07:12] <jerp_> it never fails, MS always ships their latest with a major security flaw
[07:12] <andreasw> !killing_all_humans
[07:12] <cloakable> !_
[07:12] <andreasw> jerp_:  Well in Linux there are also more than enough bugs trust me
[07:12] <DaSkreech> jerp_: So much for all those Securty companies complaining that Microsoft was trying to push them out of Business
[07:13] <DaSkreech> andreasw: Yeah difference being that you don't have Zero Day Exploits that can wipe out everything
[07:13] <DaSkreech> andreasw: Ha ha want to see the message ubotu sent me?
[07:14] <DaSkreech> It's almost creepy
[07:14] <method|> when i try to apt-get update i get the following errors:
[07:14] <andreasw> DaSkreech: well the exploits which cause so many troubles use bugs wich are fixed for 30 days or more but most of the peaple don't update their Windows
[07:14] <method|> Get:6 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Sources [1441kB] 
[07:14] <method|> 99% [6 Sources gzip 0] 
[07:14] <method|> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[07:14] <method|> Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Sources
[07:14] <method|>   Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[07:14] <method|> Fetched 3800B in 1s (1991B/s)
[07:14] <method|> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/universe/source/Sources.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[07:14] <method|> any ideas?
[07:14] <method|> seems weird that id get this error from us.archive.ubuntu.com
[07:15] <DaSkreech> andreasw: The Vista bug applies to all windows before it as well
[07:15] <DaSkreech> !pastebin | method|
[07:15] <ubotu> method|: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:15] <method|> sorry
[07:15] <method|> any ideas tho?
[07:15] <DaSkreech> Can you ping the server?
[07:15] <method|> i need to update my system
[07:15] <dominik> pastebin!
[07:15] <dominik> !pastebin
[07:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:16] <jerp_> DaSkreech: I guess that screws everyone who wanted to keep win98  :)
[07:17] <DaSkreech> I think they knew that a loooong time ago :)
[07:17] <jerp_> that's a  good reason to go linux
[07:17] <DaSkreech> s/a /another /
[07:25] <ep> I need to upgrade from my current version (daffy duck or whatever it is called, I forget) to Edgy.  Is there a help page on this?  My main concern, is the Nvidia 3d driver which I am presently using.  What to I need to do to prevent it from causing problems?
[07:27] <DaSkreech> !upgrade
[07:27] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[07:27] <DaSkreech> Seveas: Awake?
[07:27] <Seveas> yes
[07:28] <DaSkreech> Are the bots chan aware?
[07:31] <DaSkreech> Seveas: Are the Bots Chan aware now?
[07:31] <Rashid> wassup
[07:32] <Seveas> depends on what you mean with chan aware
[07:32] <DaSkreech> When I said Upgrade it gave me the Kubuntu upgrade page. Normally that would be teh Ubuntu upgrade page
[07:32] <Seveas> !-upgrade
[07:32] <ubotu> upgrade-#kubuntu has no aliases - added by LjL on 2006-10-27 23:53:19
[07:32] <ubotu> upgrade aliases: upgrading, update - added by Amaranth on 2006-06-23 08:11:05
[07:33] <DaSkreech>  did the bot know that I meant the Kubuntu because I am in the Kubuntu chan?
[07:33] <Seveas> yes
[07:33] <DaSkreech> So they are chan aware :) Good job Seveas
[07:42] <koriel> can anyone help find the compiz-kde package?
[07:42] <koriel> I can't find it anywhere
[07:42] <__osh__> !compiz
[07:42] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:42] <koriel> I have compiz installed but no windows decorator... :(
[07:44] <koriel> there is no compiz-kde in edgy backports
[07:48] <lupul> can anyone tell me pls a program to watch tv tuner on edgy?
[07:50] <aseigo> lupul: kdetv?
[07:50] <cloakable> lupul: kaffene?
[07:50] <dettoaltrimenti_> lupul: or just open adept and type in 'tv tuner' and a list of them will probably pop up
[07:50] <lupul> aha
[07:50] <lupul> thanks
[07:51] <mazyhaze> does any body know what to do when kubuntu insall cd (6.10 amd64) does not boot? (it actualy boots but does not do anything after "io scheduler cfq registred (default)" - even keyboard does not work anylonger)
[07:51] <lupul> kaffeine works on tv tuners?
[07:51] <cloakable> lupul: dvb ones.
[07:51] <lupul> k thakns
[07:52] <mazyhaze> none?
[07:57] <zhu> hi
[07:58] <zhu> anyone can help me?
[07:59] <mazyhaze> does not seem so
[07:59] <DaSkreech> mazyhaze: Kernel panic?
[07:59] <DaSkreech> !anyone
[07:59] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:59] <zhu> it's a simple question
[08:00] <DaSkreech> Then ask it
[08:00] <ochipepe> hello, I've just installed kubuntu, and I'm trying to find where can I install applications. I've seen Adept, but many applications are missing (openssh, for instance, etc). Where can I find them?
[08:00] <zhu> i've installed a xampp server on my pc and i'd like to create a desktop icon to give the command "/opt/lampp/lampp start" to the terminal
[08:00] <zhu> i'm on kde
[08:01] <dthacke1> Hi, what's the name of the encoder package I need to install to have kscd encode in ogg vorbis?
[08:02] <jerp_> ummm, ogg vorbis ?
[08:02] <DaSkreech> zhu: Make a launcher I think
[08:02] <DaSkreech> dthacke1: oggenc
[08:02] <zhu> i don't know how
[08:02] <lupul> does anyone know a video converter?
[08:02] <DaSkreech> !video
[08:02] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[08:02] <zhu> it's the thing i'd like to know
[08:02] <jerp_> dthack, here's a trick, open adept and use the search
[08:03] <MetaBookfoziS> hi all
[08:03] <MetaBookfoziS> how can i open pasword protected zip files?
[08:03] <ochipepe> how can you open access to general repositories in adept?
[08:03] <DaSkreech> Right click and create new Link to application
[08:03] <MetaBookfoziS> ark exits with error
[08:03] <DaSkreech> zhu: ^^^
[08:03] <zhu> yes, i did it
[08:03] <DaSkreech> ochipepe: General repositories?
[08:03] <zhu> then?
[08:03] <zhu> i go to Application
[08:03] <DaSkreech> zhu: ok on the third tab what did you put in?
[08:04] <ochipepe> DaSkreech: it seems I can't find many applications
[08:04] <DaSkreech> !universe
[08:04] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:04] <zhu> i put 'sudo /opt/lampp/lampp start'
[08:04] <DaSkreech> ochipepe: read that page
[08:04] <ochipepe> ubotu: thanks
[08:04] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[08:04] <DaSkreech> zhu: In Command ?
[08:04] <zhu> i'm on KDE
[08:05] <DaSkreech> Yes I know inthe box on the tab apllication named Command
[08:05] <zhu> i put that
[08:05] <zhu> 'sudo /opt/lampp/lampp start'
 how can you open access to general repositories in adept?   sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:06] <zhu> did i have only to put 'start' and give the path in the field below?
[08:07] <DaSkreech> zhu: No I think that's right. The path is the folder that the ccommand is in
[08:07] <DaSkreech> What does that do when you click ok And then click the Link?
[08:07] <DaSkreech> zhu: Oh You amy need to put the entire thing in "" quotes
[08:13] <genii> Hello all
[08:14] <genii> Does anyone know if avalon got his wacom tablet drivers compiled and working?
[08:15] <DaSkreech> I don't
[08:16] <genii> DaSkreech OK thanks :) I left him here on xmas eve after helping him get build-essential and headers etc he needed to ompile but had not started the actual make process etc
[08:19] <genii> !netboot
[08:19] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[08:19] <genii> Hmm... is there a netboot specific irc channel?
[08:19] <Tachyon> When I'm enabling auto-login, what do the two settings "Persistent" and "Lock Session" do if I select them?
[08:21] <genii> Tachyon Lock Session akes it so that no matter how you leave the desktop it will always load however it was when you locked it
[08:21] <genii> Persistent setting I dunno :)
[08:22] <lupul> can anyone tell me a plugin like winamp dfx or winamp wow but for amarok or xmms?
[08:24] <BluesKaj> xmms is sorta like winamp , to my eyes
[08:24] <viper550> Just finished installing Edgy in VMWare Server
[08:28] <genii> viper550 Any issues or a smooth install?
[08:30] <koriel> how do I reconfigure the dpkg?
[08:31] <genii> koriel There is a package you wish to reconfigure?
[08:31] <Lynoure> I guess that'd by  dpkg-reconfigure dpkg, but it should not take much configuring
[08:31] <Tachyon> Did I go blind or where did the power management option go in Edgy's system settings?...
[08:31] <Lynoure> s/by/be
[08:32] <koriel> well every time I try to do apt-get update it freezes in some repository with a message "waiting for headers" and it's 99% complete
[08:32] <lwizardl> how do i manually set folder icon images
[08:33] <lwizardl> i'm going to be burning these folders to cdrom
[08:34] <genii> koriel I seems like some repository in /etc/apt/sources.list then is defective or not responding. If you know the exact url you could comment it out, or try an alternate url for somewhere near to you.
[08:35] <genii> likely the securit url. It is in new zealand somewhere and occasionally becomes stuck for places far from there
[08:38] <zhu> DaSkreech, still there?
[08:39] <zhu> does anyone knows how to create a launcher to launch a command like /opt/lampp/lampp start on a terminal?
[08:42] <zhu> does anyone knows how to create a launcher to launch a command like /opt/lampp/lampp start on a terminal?
[08:42] <brad_> how do i extract a multipart RAR ?
[08:43] <zhu> brad...with tar?
[08:44] <brad_> or ark
[08:44] <brad_> i have unrar , non-free installed
[08:44] <brad_> im trying todo it in the gui...
[08:44] <zhu> did u try with a tar -xvfg "name of the archive"?
[08:45] <zhu> simply
[08:45] <zhu> tar -xvfg name
[08:45] <brad_> no i didnt
[08:45] <brad_> thank u
[08:46] <zhu> ehi
[08:46] <zhu> it's better if u give a destination directory
[08:46] <zhu> tar -xvfg archive destination
[08:47] <zhu> just create a destination directory before
[08:47] <brad_> ok
[08:47] <zhu> does anyone know how to create a launcher to launch a command like /opt/lampp/lampp start on a terminal?
[08:47] <brad_> ty
[08:47] <brad_> tar: g: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[08:47] <brad_> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[08:48] <genii> zhu I think your best bet with launching an app you want to be in a terminal is to copy the Konsole launcher, then add into the line for which command at the end the name of your app
[08:48] <zhu> you have to be in the same directory of the archive
[08:48] <zhu> or you have to give the path of the archive
[08:48] <brad_> i am zhu
[08:49] <zhu> brad...isn't it corrupt?
[08:49] <zhu> corrupted?
[08:49] <zhu> genii?
[08:49] <brad_> what does the g flag stand for?
[08:49] <zhu> what do u mean?
[08:49] <SSJ_GZ> brad_:I think the "f" might need to be the last flag in the list i.e. xvgf
[08:49] <zhu> genii, what do you mean?
[08:50] <SSJ_GZ> brad_:Wait - are you trying to extract a "rar", here? As far as I know, tar has no rar file support.
[08:50] <dennis_> gniiii!!!!???
[08:50] <brad_> yes SSJ_GZ its a multipart RAR....
[08:51] <SSJ_GZ> brad_:Ok, I'd be surprised if tar worked :) Have you tried unrar on the command-line?
[08:51] <mazyhaze> get that problem: http://uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0608.3/0225.html while booting the install cd
[08:51] <brad_> no i havent
[08:52] <brad_> i thought i could just install unrar and ark would do it... but i was worng :(
[08:52] <SSJ_GZ> brad_:That's probably your best bet, although I've never tried with multipart archives.
[08:52] <SSJ_GZ> brad_:Figures - arK is my absolute least-favourite KDE app :)
[08:53] <brad_> lol
[08:53] <brad_> i hear that
[08:53] <brad_> k thanks guys :)
[08:53] <genii> zhu What I mean is that in Kubuntu there is an application called Konsole. You can make a launcher for Konsole on your desktop for instance byt right-click then Copy to Desktop   from the place it is in the menu. Then you can edit the desktop launcher for Konsol by right-clicking then going to which item contains the filename part to run whn the launcher is activated. After the line which...
[08:53] <genii> ...reads something like /usr/bin/konsole   then add the name of what file you wish to have running inside the Konsole  like /opt/lampp/lampp
[08:55] <Xera> hoi again
[08:57] <Xera> i got my graphics card working (radeon 9250), but i can't run any opengl apps, i get a lot of errors, can someone take a look? http://pastebin.co.uk/7852
[08:57] <mazyhaze> kubunutu installation hangs while booting, checksum is ok, no error
[08:58] <dope> can i use konversation in windows?
[08:58] <Xera> try and compile it?
[08:58] <dope> i don't have a compiler
[08:58] <mazyhaze> cygwin
[08:58] <luca_b> Xera: AFAIK fglrx doesn't support the 9250
[08:58] <zhu> genii...it doesn't work
[08:58] <hmg4> What is the best way to get as much information about current CPU and MOBO, and CPU temp?
[08:58] <Xera> luca_b: oh ._.
[08:59] <zhu> it opens an empty terminal
[08:59] <Xera> then where do i get a driver to support it?
[08:59] <Xera> the one from ati.com breaks X
[08:59] <luca_b> Xera: the OSS driver ("ati" or "radeon") should do the trick
[08:59] <mazyhaze> kubunutu installation hangs while booting, checksum is ok, no error
[08:59] <luca_b> it's installed by default
[08:59] <Xera> they run extremely slow
[09:00] <luca_b> Xera: that's because they're reerse-engineered and need still some work
[09:00] <luca_b> Xera: but ATI has decided not to support the 9250 cards
[09:00] <Xera> wtf
[09:00] <Xera> >:(
[09:00] <luca_b> and unlike NVIDIA
[09:00] <luca_b> they don't provide legacy drivers
[09:00] <Xera> ;s
[09:00] <genii> zhu OK lemme look into it
[09:01] <SSJ_GZ> zhu:Right-click on the desktop, select Create New -> Link To Application
[09:01] <luca_b> hmg4: you can use the sensors package
[09:01] <dthacke1> adept cannot locate a package called oggenc.  A search for ogg locate dozens of packages, though none say clearly they are an encoder
[09:01] <luca_b> hmg4: actually you *need* it to run any sensor related program
[09:01] <zhu> SSJ: done
[09:01] <SSJ_GZ> zhu:In Application -> Command, add  /opt/lampp/lampp
[09:01] <lupine_85> !info oggenc edgy
[09:01] <ubotu> Package oggenc does not exist in edgy
[09:01] <lupine_85> what it says
[09:02] <lupine_85> !info mp32ogg edgy
[09:02] <ubotu> mp32ogg: Converts MP3 file to Ogg Vorbis. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11-7 (edgy), package size 7 kB, installed size 64 kB
[09:02] <SSJ_GZ> zhu:In Advanced Options, check Run in Terminal
[09:02] <zhu> SSJ: done
[09:02] <dthacke1> I'm on dapper
[09:02] <lupine_85> !info mp32ogg dapper
[09:02] <luca_b> BTW, has anyone tried using beryl 0.1.4 on edgy?
[09:02] <mazyhaze> again: ubunutu installation hangs while booting, checksum is ok, no error
[09:02] <zhu> SSJ done
[09:02] <ubotu> mp32ogg: Converts MP3 file to Ogg Vorbis. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11-6 (dapper), package size 7 kB, installed size 64 kB
[09:02] <lupine_85> there you go
[09:02] <lupine_85> luca_b: yes :D
[09:02] <luca_b> I get a segfault if I run aquamarine
[09:02] <daedra> isn't lossy transcoding a very horrible and wrong thing!
[09:02] <SSJ_GZ> zhu:Does it still not work even with Run in Terminal checked?
[09:02] <luca_b> about to open a ticket for it but I want to see if anyone else had that problem
[09:02] <Xera> so, in xorg.conf change Driver "fglrx" to Driver "radeon" ?
[09:02] <zhu> SSJ still not work
[09:03] <luca_b> Xera: try "ati" first
[09:03] <Xera> ok
[09:03] <lupine_85> daedra: it's not lossy transcoding - it's a direct conversion
[09:03] <hmg4> luca_b: Sensors-applet? looking into it
[09:03] <lupine_85> luca_b: not tried aquamarine. I'll give it a go now.
[09:03] <genii> !pastebin | genii
[09:03] <ubotu> genii: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:03] <luca_b> hmg4: there's ksysguard on KDE
[09:03] <SSJ_GZ> zhu:What happens  when you double-click on your new shortcut?
[09:03] <luca_b> hmg4: but you need lm-sensors instaled
[09:03] <daedra> I don't see the difference...
[09:03] <luca_b> !info lm-sensors edgy
[09:03] <ubotu> lm-sensors: utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In component main, is extra. Version 1:2.10.0-7ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 479 kB, installed size 1472 kB
[09:03] <dthacke1> lupine_85: this converts mp3 to ogg.  Kscd does not rip to mp3, does it?
[09:03] <lupine_85> daedra: then take my word for it :). There's no loss of quality
[09:03] <zhu> SSJ it opens a terminal and it closes after less than a second
[09:04] <lupine_85> Kscd can rip straight to ogg, I'd imagine
[09:04] <daedra> lupine_85: ok ;)
[09:04] <SSJ_GZ> zhu:Very odd :/
[09:04] <zhu> DONE
[09:04] <zhu> DONE
[09:04] <zhu> IT WORKS!
[09:04] <daedra> lupine_85: I've been meaning to convert my mp3's to ogg for a while, but the idea transcoding put me off
[09:04] <SSJ_GZ> SSJ_GZ:Hooray!
[09:04] <zhu> i had to use sudo
[09:05] <SSJ_GZ> zhu:Hooray!
[09:05] <zhu> before the command
[09:05] <zhu> thank you SSJ
[09:05] <SSJ_GZ> zhu:Ah!
[09:05] <SSJ_GZ> zhu:np =)
[09:05] <lupine_85> hmm, yes - aquamarine crashes here if it's not given --replace; if it is given --replace, it crashes beryl!
[09:06] <dthacke1> lupine_85:  kscd is asking me for a path to an ogg encoder program.  I'm trying to find the right program to make it work.
[09:06] <hmg4> luca_b: Thanks looking at sensors, gonna use it on a ubuntu-server with no gui
[09:06] <lupine_85>  BUT it works if done through beryl-manager...
[09:06] <zhu> thank you very much SSJ
[09:06] <zhu> sto godendo come un pazzo
[09:06] <luca_b> lupine_85: I got crashes in all cases, I'll post a ticket through beryl
[09:06] <lupine_85> ok
[09:07] <luca_b> hmg4: there's a gkrellm plugin that you can use to remotely see a sensor
[09:07] <luca_b> hmg4: lm-sensors is the daemon that runs, if you install gkrellm-server then a client on any machine
[09:07] <luca_b> you can monitor it
[09:08] <hmg4> luca_b: Cool, thanks again, gonna check it out now
[09:08] <luca_b> !info gkrellm
[09:08] <ubotu> gkrellm: The GNU Krell Monitors. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.9-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 733 kB, installed size 2060 kB
[09:08] <lupine_85> !vorbis-tool
[09:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vorbis-tool - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:08] <luca_b> !info gkrellm-server
[09:08] <ubotu> Package gkrellm-server does not exist in any distro I know
[09:08] <lupine_85> !info vorbis-tools dapper
[09:08] <ubotu> vorbis-tools: several Ogg Vorbis tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.1-3 (dapper), package size 90 kB, installed size 724 kB
[09:08] <koriel> anyone that can help me with kde and compiz and some windows-decoration manager
[09:08] <lupine_85> dthacke1: that has oggenc in
[09:08] <daedra> cd /,
[09:08] <daedra> oops
[09:11] <daedra> hmm direct mp3 to ogg conversion creates a bigger output ogg than the input mp3 :(
[09:16] <meushi> iop = )
[09:16] <daedra> !fr
[09:16] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:20] <Xera> well that didn't go so well
[09:20] <Xera> when i booted up my monitor said "cannot display this video mode" on both ati and radeon
[09:21] <Xera> suggestions anyone?
[09:23] <Tachyon> Firefox is behaving oddly. o_O  I've upgraded to Edgy, and I'm trying to install some extensions.  However after clicking "Restart Firefox", firefox closes but doesn't restart.  And some of the extensions are behaving really weird--Google Browser Sync isn't doing anything, and NoScript refuses to bring up its preferences for me.
[09:23] <Xera> o.O
[09:23] <zorglu_> when feisty is due ?
[09:24] <cloakable> feisty is downloadable/updragable to now :P
[09:24] <cloakable> !feisty
[09:24] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[09:26] <zorglu_> ok this still leave me time :)
[09:26] <Xera> wtf glxgears works now, but i've got like.. 1 fps
[09:34] <tony_> is there a way to convert avi divx movies into DVD under linux ??
[09:37] <daniel77> hihooo
[09:40] <daniel77> how to unrar files?
[09:40] <Xera> sudo apt-get install unrar
[09:40] <tony_> need to install unrar
[09:40] <Xera> with multiverse enabled
[09:41] <tony_> anyway to convet avi to dvd under linux ?
[09:41] <daniel77> ty
[09:41] <zorglu_> tony_: yes, dont remember the tool name but it exist
[09:41] <zorglu_> !dvd
[09:41] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[09:42] <zorglu_> doesnt seems good :)
[09:42] <MightyMike> hello ya all :)
[09:42] <MightyMike> this is my first time here :P
[09:42] <tony_> i think i should google around for awhile
[09:43] <MightyMike> actually i came here because....one friend said that here could be an answer to my problem
[09:43] <daniel77> i have a wine problem :S
[09:44] <MightyMike> i hava kubuntu edgy.....and i have firefox.....and inside of firefox i have flash plugin.....
[09:44] <MightyMike> sudo ln -f /dev/dsp1 /dev/dsp corrects almost all my sound problems...when i'm using usb headset...
[09:44] <zorglu_> tony_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183936 <- from google 'dvd avi burn ubuntu'
[09:44] <MightyMike> but in firefox...that flash.....all animations are mute
[09:44] <tony_> thanks zorglu
[09:47] <daniel777> hiho
[09:47] <daniel777> i have a problem with my beryl... :(
[09:47] <MightyMike> what kind of problem?
[09:47] <daniel777> i installed and it hide my up bar
[09:47] <MightyMike> and can anyone help me with my sound prob?
[09:47] <MightyMike> okey?
[09:47] <raphink> MightyMike: did you try installing FP 9?
[09:48] <daniel777> the bar with the close buton, the maximise un minimise buttons... :S
[09:48] <MightyMike> yes i have fp 0
[09:48] <MightyMike> fp 9
[09:48] <raphink> k
[09:48] <raphink> MightyMike: I don't have a comp with flash to help you debug right now :
[09:48] <raphink> :s
[09:49] <MightyMike> when i'm usin /dev/dsp and with jack connector what is in my soundcard...everything works...but when i switch to USB headset..all music work...BUT not flash
[09:49] <zorglu_> tony_: http://tovid.wikia.com/wiki/Installing_tovid <- this is the one i was thinking about
[09:49] <hazard> could I install a 2.6 686 kernel on a 586CPU?
[09:49] <hazard> (which presently has 2.4something 386)
[09:49] <zorglu_> http://tovid.wikia.com/wiki/Using_the_tovid_GUI <- tony_ this start to be nice :)
[09:50] <daniel777> my windows set on and off :S
[09:51] <daniel777> what's name of the up bar wich 3 buttons can close, maximise and unminimize the window??
[09:53] <MightyMike> okey :)
[09:54] <daniel777> anyone with beryl here?
[09:54] <dope> i don't like beryl
[09:54] <MightyMike> is there lot of commands what you can write here at irc? REALLY i haven't use irc never *blush*
[09:54] <dope> never runs right
[09:55] <daniel777> :S
[09:55] <dope> oh there's tons
[09:55] <daniel777> another program with effects?
[09:55] <dope> press F1
[09:55] <MightyMike> but i quess i have to start learn this irc :)
[09:56] <daniel777> who know a window effect program like beryl??
[09:56] <SSJ_GZ> MightyMike:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IRC_commands :)
[09:56] <MightyMike> i only know that beryl
[09:56] <daniel777> :(
[09:56] <daniel777> do you use it?
[09:56] <MightyMike> i don't have it in my pc
[09:57] <MightyMike> but i'm plannig to put it :P
[09:57] <daniel777> :)
[09:57] <MightyMike> i have enough power in my pc that it can run it....but there is so much thingys with this linux
[09:57] <MightyMike> i only know like 3%
[09:57] <daniel777> i have a good pc too
[09:58] <MightyMike> thanks ssj_GZ :)
[09:58] <SSJ_GZ> MightyMike:np - have fun! =)
[09:59] <MightyMike> *lol* i'm just telling my friends in messenger that i'm IRCing :D
[10:00] <SSJ_GZ> MightyMike:Hehe :)
[10:00] <MightyMike> hahaha....i started to use stronger things......normal chat wasn't nothing anymore.... :D *drug talk*
[10:00] <SSJ_GZ> :)
[10:01] <MightyMike> i'm from FINLAND :D
[10:01] <MightyMike> close to helsinki
[10:02] <MightyMike> my flat is about 23km away from helsinki
[10:02] <MightyMike> so very close
[10:03] <__osh__> MightyMike: Is it built by Alvar Aalto? ;-)
[10:03] <MightyMike> that name rings a bell....and aalto did something here :D hahaha *lol* i dont know so much the history.......but maybe you are right.
[10:03] <mgastkn> Hello
[10:04] <__osh__> MightyMike: You don't know about finlands greatest architect? He was one of the reasons I went to Helsinki. To see his house and other buildings he designed. :-)
[10:04] <andrea> hi there
[10:05] <mgastkn> What do I need to type to register?
[10:05] <andrea> i have a problem.. :(
[10:05] <__osh__> !ask
[10:05] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:05] <mgastkn> Hi andrea
[10:05] <andrea> the HD of my laptop seems to be tired of being working (2 years of downloading no stop)
[10:05] <MightyMike> there are many commands......shit... i don't remember them all.........
[10:05] <MightyMike> osh :)
[10:05] <andrea> yeah
[10:05] <andrea> it gave me some logical errors during the boot
[10:05] <andrea> the machine still boots correctly
[10:06] <MightyMike> what i have to but /msg <--- something like that.... if i want to point private message to somebody....
[10:06] <basti> have ya check the format?
[10:06] <andrea> format?
[10:06] <raphink> MightyMike: or you can use /query to open a private talk
[10:06] <basti> reisers and so on
[10:06] <mgastkn> MOTD
[10:06] <__osh__> !motd
[10:06] <andrea> basti i use ext3
[10:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about motd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:07] <andrea> however.. is there a way of try to correct those errors?
[10:07] <andrea> like fsck.ext3 and so on'
[10:07] <andrea> ?
[10:07] <basti> maybe format yar hdd
[10:07] <mgastkn> Anyone know the line I need to type to register?
[10:07] <raphink> man motd ;)
[10:07] <DaSkreech> SSJ_GZ: Why do You hate Ark?
[10:07] <raphink> mgastkn: /help register
[10:07] <__osh__> Are there any "server tools" for kubuntu? Like how to configure a printer.
[10:07] <andrea> basti, why would i need to format?
[10:07] <__osh__> andrea: What were the errors?
[10:07] <SSJ_GZ> DaSkreech:Oh, man - don't get me started ;)
[10:08] <raphink> __osh__: hmm what would be the point of have a graphical interface for a server?
[10:08] <basti> 2 years new files and delted files and so crash the filesystem
[10:08] <andrea> __osh__: logical error in block: ***
[10:09] <__osh__> raphink: That's my point. I can't find any ncurses-tools or similar for the "kubuntu-server" installation.
[10:09] <andrea> i have a better view in dmesg but i am not a pro console user, and in text mode i dunno how to copy&pastee
[10:09] <raphink> kubuntu-server?
[10:09] <MightyMike> how you can share files here at irc? :O
[10:09] <raphink> there's no such thing as kubuntu server
[10:09] <basti> andrea: cp is yar command
[10:09] <basti> to copy
[10:09] <raphink> you mean ubuntu-server __osh__?
[10:09] <DaSkreech> daedra: Konqueror can rip to Ogg
[10:10] <__osh__> raphink: sure, ubuntu-server. It's all the same base anyway.
[10:10] <andrea> however... how can i make a fsck on the root partition?
[10:10] <raphink> yes
[10:10] <raphink> __osh__: what do you need tools for exactly ?
[10:10] <andrea> i can't unmount it! do i have to use an online distro?
[10:10] <basti> try it knoppix way =)
[10:10] <MightyMike> this is good place to ask if you have ubuntu problems? or is there some other place also?
[10:11] <daedra> DaSkreech: I know - via the nifty KIO interface ^^
[10:11] <__osh__> andrea: do an fsck perhaps. See if the error goes away. Otherwise install smartmontools (if your disks support SMART) and test them with that.
[10:11] <mgastkn> mgastkn:/help register
[10:12] <Xera> MightyMike: #ubuntu ?
[10:12] <MightyMike> i think my flash problem is too hard :/....i can live...if i dont hear any flashanimation sounds.....but still it sucks :D
[10:12] <__osh__> raphink: A tool to setup a printer would be nice. Rather than guessing what to write in cups.conf
[10:12] <Xera> http://forums.ubuntu.com
[10:12] <Xera> goto the tips section
[10:12] <raphink> __osh__: you could turn on the admin interface on port 631
[10:12] <Xera> search for flash sound, there's loads of things about it
[10:12] <raphink> __osh__: http that is
[10:12] <mgastkn> someone gave me the command last night. I wiill know it when I see it (to register my name)
[10:13] <__osh__> raphink: That's a good idea. Didn't think of that. Thanks.
[10:13] <MightyMike> xera....i can try to look...but i think there is something close to my prob...but not it :D
[10:13] <raphink> __osh__: then turn it off once it's set
[10:13] <andrea> __osh__: __osh__ anyway.. lately my drive started doing some weird noises..
[10:13] <raphink> or not ;)
[10:14] <MightyMike> hmm.. i'm not registered....thats why i cant write private messages to you all!!!
[10:14] <Xera> MightyMike: it will probably work, i never used to get sound in flash until i used one of those tutorials
[10:14] <__osh__> raphink: Still, my point still stands I think. Since there is a server-install I think there should be some server-tools. Similar to what redhat has.
[10:14] <lupul> does anyone know a where is it like app?
[10:14] <andrea> not really often, but it still does.. something like an elastic in tension that is then released.. not really loud though
[10:14] <lupul> for edgy
[10:14] <__osh__> andrea: Then you should definitly go for smartmontools. And make sure your backups are working.
[10:14] <raphink> lupul: ???
[10:15] <MightyMike> okey wait you all...i'm reading a while......
[10:15] <lupul> ?
[10:15] <raphink> __osh__: well you can use lp*
[10:15] <andrea> __osh__: my backups?
[10:15] <raphink> lupul: what exactly do you mean?
[10:15] <lupul> a cd catalog
[10:16] <lupul> like "where is it" on windows
[10:17] <lupul> ?
[10:17] <raphink> did  you search for it?
[10:17] <lupul> yeas
[10:17] <raphink> apt-cache search cd catalog
[10:17] <__osh__> raphink: Yes, but still. There should be some uniform way to configure lots of different server things. NTP, Printer, Samba... that kind of things. Things you use your server for.
[10:17] <raphink> gives at least 3 interesting results
[10:17] <__osh__> andrea: Make  sure you have backups if the disk crashes.
[10:17] <raphink> __osh__: hmmm yes
[10:17] <lupul> i'm a newbee so....
[10:17] <lupul> apt-cache......... ?
[10:18] <raphink> oh ok
[10:18] <raphink> well you can search in adept then
[10:18] <raphink> "apt-cache search" allows to search the packages database for packages matching a pattern
[10:18] <__osh__> raphink: So I guess I should fire up my python shell and get cracking... :-/
[10:18] <lupul> aha
[10:18] <raphink> __osh__: good idea :)
[10:18] <lupul> ok thanks
[10:19] <raphink> __osh__: I'm sure everybody would be happy with that
[10:19] <mgastkn> I'm sorry to keep asking this: What do I type to register?
[10:19] <raphink> although I'd rather see it done in perl :)
[10:19] <raphink> but well :)
[10:19] <raphink> mgastkn: did you read /help register?
[10:19] <raphink> mgastkn: it explains how to use it
[10:19] <raphink> ah no
[10:19] <raphink> lol
[10:19] <raphink>  /msg nickserv help register
[10:20] <mgastkn> No response when I typed it
[10:20] <raphink> mgastkn: type what I just pasted
[10:20] <andrea> __osh__: fsck revealed errors.. what should i do? go directly to smartmontools or use knoppix and fix the errors with fsck?
[10:20] <__osh__> raphink: Perl? My first love too, however there's something to be said for structured code and Python really enforces that in a nice way. Perl can be really REALLY unreadable.
[10:20] <raphink> __osh__: python functions are really illogic ;)
[10:20] <raphink> __osh__: there's ruby somewhere in between
[10:20] <__osh__> andrea: smartmontolls can't fix anything for you, just reveal if your disk is about crash.
[10:21] <andrea> oh
[10:21] <andrea> i just installed the package..
[10:21] <andrea> what's the command to start the check?
[10:21] <mgastkn> mgastkn: REGISTER
[10:21] <__osh__> andrea: Don't remember. Check the manpage: Konqueror man:/smartmontools
[10:21] <andrea> eheh, can't access that!
[10:21] <andrea> i am in terminal :)
[10:21] <mgastkn>  /msg nickserv help register
[10:22] <raphink> without the space mgastkn ;)
[10:22] <__osh__> andrea: smartctl --help
[10:22] <MightyMike> XERA....well my problem is different :)
[10:23] <Xera> k
[10:23] <mgastkn> didn't work. sorry
[10:23] <MightyMike> i will get sound from flash.....when i using soundcards jack connector......but when i but usb headset.....sound goes mute
[10:24] <andrea> __osh__: now i remember, my disk was SMART enabled :)
[10:24] <__osh__> raphink: All languages have their warts imho. Right now I write most things in Python. If I find something better, I'll switch. Just as I switched from Perl to Python.
[10:24] <mgastkn> space between what?
[10:25] <MightyMike> ln -f /dev/dsp1 /dev/dsp <--- helps to but sound to mu usb headset.....but flash sounds are still mute :/
[10:25] <mgastkn>  /msg nickserv help register
[10:26] <__osh__> Now my battery has run out. G'nite boys and girls.
[10:26] <raphink> mgastkn: space before /msg
[10:27] <mgastkn> mgastkn:/msg nickserve help register
[10:27] <MightyMike> hmm....
[10:27] <DaSkreech> mgastkn: Hello
[10:28] <mgastkn> hello
[10:28] <colleverde> dhl
[10:28] <MightyMike>  /away puts me away...how to reverse that?
[10:28] <mgastkn> I'm obviously not getting it. I'm sorry
[10:29] <MightyMike> there is reading now away.....even i'm not :D
[10:29] <MightyMike>  /online? :D
[10:29] <MightyMike> heh
[10:29] <malik__> what is the command for removing with purge option so that all the residue of that program is removed from system?
[10:30] <matthew_> malik__, sudo apt-get remove --purge package-name
[10:30] <DaSkreech> !REGISTER | mgastkn AND MightyMike
[10:30] <ubotu> mgastkn AND MightyMike: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[10:31] <DaSkreech> !away
[10:31] <ubotu> Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[10:31] <MightyMike> ubotu tell me how to switch that?
[10:31] <MightyMike> !away
[10:31] <ubotu> Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[10:32] <DaSkreech> try /away again :)
[10:32] <MightyMike> no, that wont help :/
[10:32] <fxco> hello, how can i open files from the shell without to specify which applikation to use. like "cmd start test.pdf"?
[10:34] <zorglu_> fxco: 'kfmclient test.pdf'
[10:36] <fxco> thx, but it dont work
[10:36] <zorglu_> too bad then :)
[10:36] <mgastkn> Hello. I'm about to install Kubuntu on my hard drive. I'm not using windows (no dual boot). Should I select "erase entire disk" in step no. 5?
[10:36] <linopil> ima li ot sofia ?
[10:36] <zorglu_> ~it
[10:36] <zorglu_> !it
[10:36] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:37] <zorglu_> mgastkn: if you dont need any on the data on the disk, to 'erase the entire disk' is the easiest way
[10:37] <fxco> aah, kfmclient exec test.pdf works fine. thx :)
[10:37] <slop> anyone here use a dual monitor setup?
[10:38] <cloakable> I wish :P
[10:38] <mgastkn> ok. Thanks
[10:38] <slop> i've got mine setup and working....but i want the taskbar to stretch to the second monitor...
[10:38] <slop> was wondering if its possible
[10:39] <daedra> hmm anyone know how to alter the appearance of irssi?
[10:39] <slop> daedra: you can download themes for it
[10:39] <ctothej> slop, ati card? ive dont it with one of them..
[10:39] <ctothej> dont=done
[10:39] <slop> ctothej: nvidia
[10:40] <daedra> i dont want the name to be so big
[10:40] <daedra> *name section
[10:40] <Xera> MightyMike: i can't pm you back..
[10:40] <Xera> xd
[10:40] <linopil> MightyMike,  not registered?
[10:40] <linopil> !register
[10:40] <dthacke1> slop: I have done it in nvidia with another distro.   I had to spend some time reading the nvidia readme's
[10:40] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[10:40] <Xera> he is. i'm not
[10:41] <Xera> i don't use freenode enough to need to register
[10:41] <Xera> quakenet ftw ;)
[10:41] <slop> dthacke1: cool, i'll check into that...thanks
[10:41] <ctothej> slop: did you use ' Option "Xinerama" "true" ' under server flags?
[10:42] <linopil> xera use xchat multiserver connect
[10:42] <zorglu_> !dual
[10:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dual - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:42] <zorglu_> !xinerama
[10:42] <ubotu> xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[10:42] <Xera> linopil: no need, konversation can do multi servers
[10:42] <slop> ctothej: i didn't use xinerama, i used nvidia twinview...
[10:42] <linopil> yes
[10:42] <ctothej> oh ok
[10:42] <Xera> i meant i'm hardly ever on freenode, so i don't bother registering
[10:42] <slop> ctothej: but i just had an idea...i can just add a second panel :p
[10:43] <ctothej> there u go
[10:43] <Xera> MightyMike: i can't pm you back i'm not registered noob ;p
[10:43] <DaSkreech> Why dont we have cinelerra?
[10:44] <MightyMike> anyway.......thanks that you tryed to help me :P
[10:44] <MightyMike> xera
[10:44] <Xera> ;p
[10:46] <cubdukat> Hello all.
[10:47] <cubdukat> This is my first time around using Kubuntu on my laptop, and I was hoping someone could help me
[10:47] <MightyMike> <---- how i get rid off that (away)
[10:47] <Xera> /back
[10:47] <cubdukat> I recently installed Dapper Drake from a CD, and I've finally got it working the way I want it to, but I was looking to upgrade to Edgy Eft.
[10:48] <MightyMike> WUhuuuu!! *jumping*
[10:48] <linopil> Xera, is logging easy on konversation?
[10:48] <Xera> linopil: yes
[10:48] <cubdukat> I've already tried doing kdesu "update-manager -c" but it looks like update-manager isn't an option.
[10:48] <Xera> settings->configure konversation->logging->enable logging
[10:48] <Xera> then ~/.kde/share/apps/konversation/logs ;)
[10:48] <linopil> tyvm xera
[10:49] <cubdukat> And I'd like to avoid editing sources in Adept.
[10:49] <cubdukat> Is there an easier way to do it that I'm missing?
[10:50] <Xera> cubdukat: view->manage repos~
[10:51] <psb154> !mp3
[10:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:51] <cubdukat> Okay, I'm there now.
[10:51] <rance> hey tony_ you around?
[10:51] <cubdukat> Do I deactivate all the sources I have now for Dapper or do I modify them?
[10:52] <MightyMike> where i can change flash 9 plugins dsp?.......because i think its still /dev/dsp....even it should be now /dev/dsp1 because of my usb headset
[10:54] <linopil> Xera, konversation has sounds like gaim?
[10:54] <Xera> no, no sounds
[10:55] <Xera> unless there's an option for them, no
[10:56] <andreasw> Anybody has an idea how I can change the paranoia settings for KAudioCreator
[10:57] <andreasw> !KAudioCreator
[10:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about KAudioCreator - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:57] <andreasw> !CD
[10:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about CD - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:57] <andreasw> ...
[10:57] <andreasw> !ubotu
[10:57] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:57] <andreasw> At least it knows who it is
[10:57] <Xera> lol
[10:58] <MightyMike> hhh!! i will go to sleep :) but i will continues to solve this sound problem next day!!!.......is there other irc channels were i should go? finnish rooms??
[10:59] <cloakable> !you
[10:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about you - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:59] <excitatory> so.. the rendering speed of firefox on my system is horrible.  konq render speed is nice, but i don't use it too frequently for www.  over the holiday weekend i was on a slower ubuntu and windows machine, and firefox rendering speeds were phenomenally faster than my much faster box..
[10:59] <excitatory> andreasw: kcontrol is how i do it.
[10:59] <DaSkreech> linopil: Konverstion can have sounds
[10:59] <DaSkreech>  what sounds are you looking for?
[10:59] <andreasw> excitatory: I only found a way to completely disable error correction
[11:00] <andreasw> excitatory: But I want to tweak it rather than disabling it
[11:00] <linopil> gaim has defaults
[11:00] <excitatory> andreasw: yes.. i just noticed that.. would be nice come to think of it.
[11:00] <linopil> DaSkreech, as default as possible. quickly switchimg machines doimg installs and tunings
[11:01] <DaSkreech> Umm Not sure about default stuff but if you look under Settings -> Notifications
[11:01] <DaSkreech> you can see sound settings for events tehre
[11:01] <DaSkreech> there even
[11:01] <ubuntu> hello guys
[11:02] <DaSkreech> Peshk0`: Hi
[11:02] <Peshk0`> i'm new kubuntu user
[11:03] <linopil> Peshk0`, what country ? ;-)
[11:03] <Peshk0`> bulgaria
[11:03] <linopil> oh 4udesno
[11:03] <linopil> naj posle
[11:03] <Peshk0`> oo zdravei ;] 
[11:03] <linopil> -- join ubuntu-bg
[11:03] <slow-motion> hallo
[11:03] <andreasw> slow-motion: hi
[11:04] <slow-motion> hi andreasw
[11:04] <Peshk0`> ei toq bug v nachaloto me umori
[11:04] <habesha> can I ask an SSh question here? the #ubuntu is moving extremely fast...
[11:04] <Peshk0`> nakraq prochetoh che trqbva s spec parametar pri bootvane
[11:04] <Peshk0`> acpi=force
[11:04] <Peshk0`> i bootna ve
[11:04] <Peshk0`> ;] 
[11:04] <andreasw> habesha: just try it ;)
[11:05] <habesha> here goes >> Can someone give me an idea on how to convert a key generated by PuTTY (.ppk) into OpenSSH format using ssh-keygen??
[11:05] <linopil> bulgarian in ubuntu-bg peshk0
[11:05] <DaSkreech> habesha: can you open it in a text editor?
[11:06] <habesha> DaSkreech I am on an XP machine now./. made a key  with putty gen and sent it to my ubuntu box using scp
[11:06] <habesha> it is saved as id_rsa.ppk
[11:06] <DaSkreech> habesha: Ah ok then I think you can take off the .ppk
[11:07] <habesha> u sure it is that easy?
[11:07] <malik_> how do we kill a program if its stuck?
[11:07] <lupine_85> malik_: with a hammer
[11:07] <DaSkreech> *shrugs*
[11:07] <lupine_85> or killall <program name>
[11:07] <lupine_85> or kill <pid>
[11:07] <lupine_85> add -9 to kill with extreme prejudice
[11:07] <DaSkreech> habesha: If you could open it in Notepad I could give you better info :)
[11:08] <Sanne> malik_: or graphically with ksysguard
[11:08] <malik_> so i need to  install hammer package?
[11:08] <lupine_85> malik_: I believe the hammer command is in the horror package
[11:08] <lupine_85> !info hammer edgy
[11:08] <ubotu> Package hammer does not exist in edgy
[11:08] <lupine_85> hmm
[11:08] <habesha> DaSkreech ok.. it is open in notepad now
[11:08] <malik_> ksysguard sometime doesnt work
[11:08] <DaSkreech> Whats the first part say?
[11:09] <JohnFlux> malik_: in what way?
[11:09] <Sanne> malik_: then try those other fine suggestions
[11:09] <habesha> PuTTY-User-Key-File-2: ssh-rsa
[11:09] <malik_> sometime i try to kill a process with it n it says not enough permissions
[11:09] <lupine_85> sudo it
[11:09] <lupine_85> or kdesu it
[11:09] <DaSkreech> habesha: should do it then
[11:09] <DaSkreech> rename the .ppk to .pub
[11:09] <lupine_85> some processes run as root for various reasons
[11:11] <habesha> Server refused our key
[11:11] <habesha> this is the error PuTTY is giving me now...
[11:11] <malik_> one more thing .......i am looking for a way to convert my ntfs data drive to ext3 without destroying data on it...............any i deas?......its a 120gig HDD
[11:11] <habesha> renamed .ppk to .pub and used the ppk on this machine as a key through PuTTY
[11:11] <JohnFlux> malik_: copy the data elsewhere :-)
[11:11] <malik_> i thought partition magic could do that but ALAS i was wrong
[11:12] <DaSkreech> the ppk is public or private key?
[11:12] <habesha> there are no directives in the sshd config to enable key authentication are there?
[11:12] <habesha> it's private...
[11:13] <DaSkreech> habesha: No
[11:13] <DaSkreech> Never
[11:13] <DaSkreech> ever
[11:13] <DaSkreech> ever
[11:13] <DaSkreech> under any circumstance
[11:13] <DaSkreech>  give out your private
[11:14] <habesha> hmm.. well I didn't know the difference. so I picked private when I generated the key thru PuTTYgen
[11:14] <DaSkreech> Nope it' public you are looking for
[11:17] <habesha> well, now that I made a public key and called it id_rsa... here's the error I am getting >> Unable to use key file "P:\Dls\id_rsa" (not a private key)
[11:19] <habesha> anyways.. i thought this was going to be an easy thing to do since eveyone talks about making your ssh connection more secure... but none of the howtos assume client side will be windows...
[11:19] <habesha> thanks for the help
[11:22] <excitatory> think digiKam or picasa are better photo managers?
[11:22] <Xera> picasa
[11:22] <Xera> :)
[11:23] <Guns> does anyone knows how to persuade kvirc to install on ubuntu ?
[11:23] <anowakaaa> where I found people with POLAND??
[11:23] <Guns> i get this weird error telling me it cant find X
[11:24] <DaSkreech> anowakaaa: sorry?
[11:24] <ctothej> can some one help me troubleshoot my installation of ATI fglrx drivers on Edgy?
[11:24] <Xera> Guns: 0:0 error?
[11:24] <ctothej> fglrxinfo gives me connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[11:24] <Guns>  CONFIGURE ERROR:
[11:24] <Guns> ### Can not find the X libraries.
[11:24] <Guns> ### Make sure that X is installed on your system and try to run configure again
[11:24] <lupine_85> Guns: what it says
[11:24] <Guns> im using gnome
[11:25] <lupine_85> !info x11-dev
[11:25] <Sanne> Guns: kvirc is in the repositories, in universe. Install it with apt-get/adept/synaptic. You need not compile it from source.
[11:25] <ubotu> Package x11-dev does not exist in any distro I know
[11:25] <Guns> Sanne: yeh but there is old version
[11:25] <DaSkreech> !info kvirc
[11:25] <ubotu> kvirc: KDE based next generation IRC client with module support. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:3.2.4-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 2871 kB, installed size 8644 kB
[11:25] <Guns> im trying to instal from svn
[11:26] <lupine_85> |info xlibs-dev | Guns
[11:26] <Sanne> Guns: ok. Then you need the x development headers. Go to packages.ubuntu.com to find out what the package is called
[11:26] <lupine_85> argh
[11:26] <malik_> kvirc is better than konversation?
[11:26] <Guns> yeh
[11:26] <lupine_85> !info xlibs-dev | Guns
[11:26] <ubotu> xlibs-dev: X Window System client library development files transitional package. In component main, is extra. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu6.2 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 44 kB
[11:26] <lupine_85> at last! :D
[11:26] <Guns> one sec lupine_85
[11:26] <lupine_85> ?
[11:26] <Sanne> Guns: or just listen to lupine_85 ;)
[11:26] <_vinboy> hi.. i want to switch to kubuntu.. but i have a few questions.. 1) are the software on Kubuntu respository very up to date?
[11:27] <lupine_85> _vinboy: pretty much
[11:27] <_vinboy> i heard that after the release, only securities are being updated
[11:27] <Guns> ok im back
[11:27] <lupine_85> _vinboy: that's true, but there's a new release every 6 months
[11:27] <lupine_85> and upgrading is easy
[11:27] <Sanne> _vinboy: that's true, during a version's life cycle the package versions are stable.
[11:27] <lupine_85> at the expense of a bit of up-to-dateness, you get a lot more stability
[11:28] <Guns> lupine_85: what to do ?
[11:28] <lupine_85> install xlibs-dev
[11:28] <_vinboy> ic...
[11:28] <Sanne> _vinboy: you can find out the versions at packages.ubuntu.com
[11:28] <Guns> ok
[11:28] <_vinboy> thx
[11:28] <superkirbyartist> Okay, I installed Lexmark Z600 drivers, they do not appear in the "Add printer Wizard", can someone please help me?
[11:29] <_vinboy> second question) i know i can upgrade to the new release without reinstalling, but is that going to be as stable as fresh install?
[11:29] <_vinboy> it used to be not so stable
[11:30] <superkirbyartist> Help with printer?  I've asked so many timer!
[11:31] <Sanne> superb0wl: if nobody answers, it means that nobody knows how to help. Don't feel ignored. Maybe you have more luck in #ubuntu, since there are much more users.
[11:32] <superkirbyartist> *Sigh* printer doesn't work.
[11:32] <Sanne> superkirbyartist: if nobody answers, it means that nobody knows how to help. Don't feel ignored. Maybe you have more luck in #ubuntu, since there are much more users.
[11:32] <Sanne> superb0wl: sorry
[11:32] <superkirbyartist> Sanne: No way.
[11:33] <dmhouse> Hey all. I've just bought a new keyboard, and it's one of these fancy modern ones with 'Media keys' at the top. Is there any way I could get these to work in Kubuntu?
[11:33] <Sanne> superkirbyartist: no luck in #ubuntu?
[11:33] <mgastkn> Hi everyone. I completed by Kubuntu install. Question: How do I get rid of the login? I don't need or want it.
[11:33] <superkirbyartist> Lexmark X1270 printer installed z600 drivers do not appear in "Add a Printer"
[11:33] <superkirbyartist> Sanne: No luck in ##linux either.
[11:34] <Sanne> superkirbyartist: unfortunately, I don't know either. Best I could tell you is check the ubuntu wiki and forums, and maybe also linuxprinting.org for specific info on your printer.
[11:34] <mgastkn> Can I just delete my login name?
[11:34] <superkirbyartist> I did for LinuxPrinting.org
[11:35] <superkirbyartist> It says "works perfectly"/
[11:35] <Sanne> mgastkn: no!
[11:35] <mgastkn> What do I do?
[11:36] <mgastkn> Thanks for responding, Sanne
[11:36] <Sanne> superkirbyartist: there should be a details page for your printer with more info on what/why/how of the driver to use.
[11:36] <rjdittus> How do I uninstall kubuntu?
[11:37] <superkirbyartist> Sanne:Be right back
[11:37] <Sanne> mgastkn: there is an option for auto login in system settings, but keep in mind it's a security hole.
[11:37] <dmhouse> I can get a response out of xev when I press the media keys at the top of my keyboard, and they seem to have keycodes. Which program would I need to use to map their key presses to a command?
[11:38] <mgastkn> where is it in system settings. I don't want to have to keep entering passwords
[11:38] <Sanne> mgastkn: I saw it somewhere, try to find it, I'll also look for it in a moment.
[11:39] <rjdittus> How do I uninstall kubuntu?
[11:39] <mgastkn> It must be in user management, I think, but that's as far as I've gotten
[11:40] <Sanne> mgastkn: it's in Login Manager/Convenience
[11:40] <Sanne> mgastkn: and *do* read the help ;)
[11:41] <mgastkn> Where is Login Manager located.
[11:41] <DaSkreech> !info wesnoth
[11:42] <DaSkreech> rjdittus: What do you wnat to do?
[11:42] <rjdittus> How do I uninstall kubuntu?
[11:42] <Sanne> mgastkn: oh, I'm on Dapper... if you are on Edgy, it might have gotten shifted around.
[11:42] <ralph_> Hi all. I just got my new Dell Inspiron E1705 unpacked and running. I was told all would just work. But alass it does not. This is the first notebook computer and the first one with wireless and I would like to get that working before I move up to edgy. Can any one help me get wireless working?
[11:42] <Schuenemann> using sudo and the user password, can I do anything superuser can ?
[11:43] <mgastkn> I'm on the latest
[11:43] <DaSkreech> mgastkn: Feisty Herd 1 is the latest
[11:44] <TheGateKeeper> Schuenemann, yes
[11:44] <Sanne> mgastkn: my login manager is in system administration.
[11:44] <Schuenemann> TheGateKeeper: then how can I control what a new user can do?
[11:44] <rjdittus> could someone help
[11:44] <Schuenemann> in distros where you have the root, only users that know its password can use root commands
[11:44] <mgastkn> Well,  I guess I'm not sure what I have. I downloaded it recently, and just installed it.
[11:44] <DaSkreech> rjdittus: I've asked you already what you want to do
[11:45] <TheGateKeeper> Schuenemann, if you look at sudo you can control what a user can & can not do, have a look at the documentation
[11:45] <rjdittus> I want to uninstall kubuntu
[11:45] <Schuenemann> !su
[11:45] <DaSkreech> rjdittus: give me some more information
[11:45] <Schuenemann> TheGateKeeper: where is that documentation?
[11:45] <rjdittus> Well I just need to uninstall it cause I want to try out a different linux distro
[11:45] <mgastkn> where does it tell me what version I have?
[11:45] <linopil> rjdittus, why ?
[11:46] <TheGateKeeper> !sudo
[11:46] <ubotu> wesnoth: fantasy turn-based strategy game. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1.8-1 (edgy), package size 1820 kB, installed size 4140 kB
[11:46] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:46] <linopil> and rjdittus keep data ?
[11:46] <TheGateKeeper> Schuenemann, ^^^
[11:46] <rjdittus> no
[11:46] <DaSkreech> rjdittus: Just install over it
[11:46] <Sanne> mgastkn: type: cat /etc/lsb-release
[11:46] <rjdittus> just remove it from my computer
[11:46] <linopil> then repartition rjdittus
[11:47] <linopil> problem solved ? rjdittus
[11:47] <Schuenemann> so that's possible only for the first user, unless I grant new users so
[11:47] <rjdittus> I tried that it just messed up the grub
[11:47] <ctothej> Hey. I'm trying to troubleshoot why my fglrxinfo gives me libmesa details. can someone tell me how to check the links for libGL.so and libGL.so.1 ?
[11:47] <mgastkn> Sorry to ask so many questions. I'm at system settings, about me. Could that be the place?
[11:47] <rjdittus> the grub was still on the computer
[11:48] <linopil> yu tried what rjdittus ? have already other distro's disk  handy ?
[11:48] <mgastkn> I don't even know where to type that command you gave me.
[11:48] <Sanne> mgastkn: dunno, first let's determine what you have. Please type in konsole: cat /etc/lsb-release
[11:48] <Sanne> mgastkn: ah, wait
[11:48] <rjdittus> yes
[11:48] <DaSkreech> rjdittus: What Distro are you installing?
[11:48] <Sanne> mgastkn: type: ALT-F2, in the text box type: konsole, there type: cat /etc/lsb-release
[11:49] <linopil> so rjdittus start working with new distro install disk
[11:49] <rjdittus> well ounce i tried to renimstall ubuntu like that...It didn't work
[11:49] <j__> hello, is there a good html authoring application available for kubuntu?
[11:49] <linopil> so rjdittus  you are afraid ?
[11:49] <rjdittus> it just messed up the grub
[11:49] <mgastkn> it says unknown host
[11:50] <brandon_> does anyone know how to install wine?
[11:50] <DaSkreech> !wine
[11:50] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:50] <linopil> ubuntu alternateCD can rescue nicely such situations
[11:50] <Sanne> mgastkn: did you get a konsole window? A terminal?
[11:50] <brandon_> for x86_64 feisty
[11:50] <linopil> rjdittus,
[11:50] <rjdittus> yes
[11:50] <brandon_> DaSkreech: what is the package name?
[11:50] <linopil> above
[11:50] <j__> all I really need is a better text editor than Kate
[11:50] <brandon_> nothing comes up in adept_manager for wine
[11:50] <rjdittus> I will try that
[11:50] <rjdittus> thanks
[11:50] <linopil> j__, kedit?
[11:51] <DaSkreech> brandon_: Did you read the Page?
[11:51] <linopil> yw
[11:51] <brandon_> DaSkreech: no!
[11:51] <Sanne> mgastkn: other way: open the kde menu, then choose System->Konsole
[11:51] <mgastkn> command, right?
[11:51] <rjdittus> what does it do when I tell it to rescue?
[11:51] <DaSkreech> brandon_: Please do so :)
[11:51] <DaSkreech> j__: try Quanta
[11:51] <linopil> you cane for example reach grub-install there
[11:51] <rjdittus> ok
[11:51] <rjdittus> thanks
[11:52] <linopil> you can skip steps to only grub-install
[11:52] <Sanne> mgastkn: still with me?
[11:52] <j__> linopil, does kedit handle utf-8?
[11:52] <j__> DaSkreech: what does Quanta do?
[11:52] <brandon_> DaSkreech: that's for ubuntu!
[11:52] <DaSkreech> Web Dev
[11:52] <genii> Anyone successfully compile Conexant HSF/HCF modem drivers on Edgy yet?
[11:52] <DaSkreech> !info Quanta
[11:52] <ubotu> quanta: web development environment for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 2361 kB, installed size 5700 kB
[11:53] <DaSkreech> brandon_: What is?
[11:53] <linopil> lemme try j__
[11:53] <j__> nm, found the package
[11:53] <brandon_> the wine how to
[11:53] <mgastkn> I am, but I'm not having success yet. I'm where you said I should be. I'll try again
[11:53] <brandon_> nothing for feisty or kubuntu
[11:53] <DaSkreech> brandon_: Tell me where you don't understand and I'll walk you through it
[11:53] <DaSkreech> brandon_: I should be here for at least an hour
[11:53] <Sanne> mgastkn: please type my name when you talk to me, then I'll get notified that you said something.
[11:53] <ralph_> Any one want to help get wireless working on a Dell E1705 notebook? I am not having any joy?
[11:54] <Sanne> mgastkn: did you manage to open a konsole?
[11:54] <brandon_> DaSkreech: Which repo should I add?  Edgy?
[11:54] <mgastkn> It says no such file or directory
[11:54] <j__> konversation supports tab-completion btw, just noticed
[11:54] <mgastkn> Yes
[11:54] <Sanne> mgastkn: when does it say that? What did you do exactly?
[11:54] <mgastkn> Saane, sorry
[11:54] <linopil> j__, unicode on kedit
[11:54] <DaSkreech> brandon_: well honestly if you want the latest one then Winehq.org has a Ubuntu repo on their download page that you can use
[11:55] <DaSkreech> brandon_: otherwise just put in the one you are using
[11:55] <j__> linopil, I'll install both quanta and kedit and see which I'll like better
[11:55] <DaSkreech>  if you are on feisty then by all means use feisty
[11:55] <linopil> j__,  I think every corner in linux today is unicode
[11:55] <Sanne> mgastkn: it's Sanne :). Type Sa<tab>, then my name will get autocompleted (hopefully)
[11:55] <brandon_> DaSkreech: and install libwine?  winefish?
[11:55] <DaSkreech> linopil: Highly doubt it :)
[11:55] <mgastkn> Sanne, Maybe I'm typing it wrong. Is that a "one" or an "el"
[11:55] <j__> linopil: you never know
[11:55] <brandon_> DaSkreech: I added the repo and search wine and those are the only things that come up
[11:55] <genii> ralph_ Is that a Broadcom wireless chipset?
[11:55] <linopil> DaSkreech, why doubt ?
[11:56] <DaSkreech> brandon_: You did an update?
[11:56] <Sanne> mgastkn: it is an el in lsb-release
[11:56] <DaSkreech> linopil: There is always a laggard :0
[11:56] <linopil> DaSkreech, ok
[11:56] <brandon_> DaSkreech: yes.  update, add repo, search
[11:56] <DaSkreech> brandon_:
[11:56] <mgastkn> Sanne, I will try again
[11:56] <brandon_> DaSkreech: yeah?
[11:56] <DaSkreech> No add repo, update search
[11:56] <DaSkreech> Wrong order :)
[11:56] <pi1l> do you know, how i can read the contents of buffer (clipboard) in kde ? want to use it in a bash-script
[11:57] <j__> pi1l: try DCOP
[11:57] <mgastkn> Sanne, it doesn't work
[11:57] <j__> or wassit called
[11:57] <brandon_> DaSkreech: don't I need the repo to be able to download it?
[11:57] <Sanne> mgastkn: what does it say?
[11:57] <DaSkreech> Yes
[11:57] <brandon_> okay than why is it not seeing it
[11:57] <genii> ralph At any rate this may help: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[11:58] <mgastkn> Sanne, yes, I have a terminal window
[11:58] <DaSkreech> brandon_: What are you adding the repo in? Adept or kate or Vi ?
[11:58] <brandon_> adept
[11:58] <brandon_> ... deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main
[11:58] <DaSkreech> ok press Fetch Updates
[11:58] <mgastkn> It keeps saying "no such file or directory"
[11:58] <brandon_> done, now what?
[11:58] <j__> pi1l: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-dcop/?ca=dgr-kdeml01KDEDCOP
[11:58] <Sanne> mgastkn: double check spelling: cat /etc/lsb-release
[11:59] <pi1l> thank you, j__
[11:59] <DaSkreech> search
[11:59] <brandon_> I do, and the same 3 show up
[11:59] <brandon_> libwine, libwine-dev, and winefish
[11:59] <LeeJunFan> where are the sessions stored for kdm? ie, gnome,kde,etc? I need to add one for my beryl setup.
[11:59] <brandon_> a search for "wine" returns those three listed above
[12:00] <M_> how come you add to add codecs to Mplayer?  Why aren't they included with distro.
[12:00] <rag> hello all
[12:00] <mgastkn> Sanne, I'm sorry. It won't give me the info.
[12:00] <ralph_> genii: To tell you the truth I do not know. I just unwrapped it and was told that all would just work. There is no tech info with it.
[12:00] <Sanne> mgastkn: ok, another way. Do you know how to open your sources.list?
[12:00] <rag> some body know for sony mobile and bluetooth connection?
[12:00] <rag> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NokiaEvolutionBluetoothSyncing?highlight=%28bluetooth%29
[12:00] <mgastkn> Sanne, no I don't
[12:01] <rag> is this link valid for sony mobile?
[12:01] <DaSkreech> brandon_: Hmm I think my wine is from the Winehq site let me check
[12:01] <Sanne> mgastkn: ok, in konsole, please type: kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:01] <genii> ralph_ The link I gave you should help. We used the same method another day to set up an e1750 laptop wireless for the user deus here
[12:01] <M_> is this the help channel?
[12:01] <brandon_> DaSkreech: yeah, where do I download it from this page?  http://winehq.com/site/download-deb
[12:02] <DaSkreech> brandon_: Yup
[12:03] <mgastkn> Sanne, it says "no such file or directory
[12:03] <ralph_> genii: Thanks off reading
[12:03] <Sanne> mgastkn: are you sure you're on kubuntu? ;)
[12:03] <claydoh> If it won't show up in Feisty (wine)
[12:03] <claydoh> http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/archive/index.html
[12:03] <claydoh> for deb downloads
[12:03] <mgastkn> Sanne, I appologize for taking so much of your time. I know I must seem stupid. I'm not. But I undertand if you think I am
[12:04] <mgastkn> Sanne, yes
[12:04] <DaSkreech> brandon_: though if you are going feisty I'd check in on the #ubuntu-dev folks to make sure that it won't mess you up
[12:04] <Sanne> mgastkn: no need to apologize :). I know how confusing things can be at the start. I was the same some years ago :)
[12:04] <M_> What are the help channels?
[12:04] <DaSkreech>  External repos are a good candidate to disable when you are sliding the razor
[12:04] <brandon_> DaSkreech: why would it if I compile it?
[12:04] <mgastkn> Sanne, thanks, Sanne
[12:04] <DaSkreech> M_: Help with what?
[12:04] <DaSkreech> brandon_: It would't but why would you want to compile?
[12:04] <Sanne> mgastkn: what if you only type: kwrite      Does the text editor start?
[12:04] <M_> I can't play any videos, Mplayer says I need codecs.
[12:05] <brandon_> DaSkreech: because there isn't a package available for my system?
[12:05] <mgastkn> Sanne, It worked
[12:05] <mgastkn> Sanne, it opened Kwrite
[12:05] <brandon_> x86_64
[12:05] <mgastkn> Sanne, also a bunch of errors
[12:05] <Sanne> mgastkn: ok, can you now try to navigate to /etc/apt/ and find the file sources.list and open it? You have to go to the top level directory first.
[12:06] <M_> DaSkreech,  I want to be able to watch video and listen to music like mp3, xvid, wma, wmv etc.
[12:06] <Sanne> mgastkn: disregard the errors for now.
[12:06] <claydoh> !codecs
[12:06] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:06] <DaSkreech> !codecs | M_ Try this
[12:06] <ubotu> M_ Try this: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:06] <claydoh> sorry DaSkreech
[12:06] <DaSkreech> :-)
[12:06] <mgastkn> Sanne, where do I go now. All I did was open Kwrite
[12:07] <DaSkreech> claydoh: Don't mind help. I'll just take pride in that I personalized it
[12:07] <claydoh> :P
[12:07] <Sanne> mgastkn: in kwrite, go to file/open, the to top level directory and then to /etc/apt. There find the file sources.list and open it in kwrite.
[12:07] <claydoh> IO am not too bot-knowledgable
[12:08] <mgastkn> Sanne, the top level directory is "desktop"
[12:09] <Sanne> mgastkn: no, at the top left click on the up arrow until you see "/" in the folder input line. Then you'll find /etc
[12:09] <mgastkn> Sanne, I'm not sure what to do
[12:09] <DaSkreech> claydoh: Me either I just pick up stuff
[12:09] <Sanne> mgastkn: you see the up arrow?
[12:09] <M_> What does this mean? M is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported .  I tried to copy and paste into terminal to install codecs
[12:10] <DaSkreech> claydoh: though Seveas prepped me that they are chan aware now which is nice I need to figure out how that works
[12:10] <superkirbyartist> DUDES THE PRINTER WORKS THANK YOU AND SORRY FOR BEING RUDE BUT IT WORKS!
[12:10] <mgastkn> Sanne, I see the line
[12:10] <DaSkreech> M_: are you the first user?
[12:10] <Seveas> DaSkreech, ?
[12:10] <M_> DaSckreech only user.
[12:10] <DaSkreech> M_: are is the user you have now a new one created after the install?
[12:11] <Sanne> mgastkn: ok, you can also just type in "/" in the input field at the top.
[12:11] <DaSkreech> And you don't have sudo?
[12:11] <DaSkreech> Seveas: hi :-) Sorry Forgot that would wake you up
[12:11] <M_> yum and yum exteder??
[12:11] <DaSkreech> Seveas: Just discussing hte bots
[12:11] <Seveas> ah :)
[12:11] <DaSkreech> superkirbyartist: We like elation :0
[12:11] <mgastkn> Sanne, clicked he arrow, see the folder with the slash
[12:12] <mgastkn> Sanne, what next?
[12:12] <Sanne> mgastkn: cool! now you should find the folder /etc in the folder list
[12:12] <mgastkn> Sanne, I typed etc in manually
[12:13] <mgastkn> Sanne, several folders appeared
[12:13] <Sanne> mgastkn: also fine. So now you are in /etc? then find the folder "apt" and open it.