[11:17] <holycow> hi guys
[11:17] <holycow> there is someone in #ubuntu claiming ubuntu no longer freezes off of debian unstable
[11:17] <holycow> is this true?
[11:20] <Mithrandir> holycow: we merge Debian unstable before DebianImportFreeze.
[11:21] <Mithrandir> so "no longer" can be interpreted as "the period when we merge all the stuff from Debian is over" which is true, but it's not permanently true.
[11:21] <holycow> thats what i thought
[11:21] <holycow> damned noobs
[11:21] <holycow> thank you :)
[11:24] <Mithrandir> no problem
[02:28] <sjoerd> pitti: is the ubuntu avahi package in bzr on luanchpad somewhere ? :)
[02:29] <Hobbsee> hey pitti!
[02:35] <pitti> sjoerd: not the last time I checked
[02:36] <pitti> hey Hobbsee!
[02:36] <sjoerd> pitti: k, thanks
[02:36] <Hobbsee> :)
[02:36] <sjoerd> :)
[02:36] <pitti> sjoerd: if you'd find it useful to have it in bzr, I can import it
[02:36] <pitti> Fujitsu: *hug*
[02:37] <sjoerd> pitti: that'd be nice
[02:37] <Fujitsu> Hehe.
[02:37] <sjoerd> it makes it a lot easier for me to check the changes then to download it of the mirror earch time :)
[02:37] <Hobbsee> night Fujitsu 
[02:37] <pitti> sjoerd: but I'd just import the latest version now, thus no history yet
[02:37] <Fujitsu> Night Hobbsee, pitti, sjoerd, erc.
[02:37] <Fujitsu> *et
[02:37] <sjoerd> k
[02:37] <Fujitsu> **etc
[02:38] <sjoerd> lool uploaded an nss-mdns with the upstream recommended stuff, so now if i do the avahi magic to disable itself when an .local NS is around it'll actually help :)
[02:42] <pitti> sjoerd: ah, cool
[02:43] <pitti> sjoerd: oh, btw, I still have 0.6.15-1ubuntu2 to ubuntu5 around, so if you need those diffs, I could import them
[02:43] <pitti> sjoerd: \o/ @ nss-mdns
[02:43] <Lathiat> i'm just waiting for anand to kick back up
[02:44] <Lathiat> it's kindof a shame i think its goign to create a bit of a rift but oh well, can't be helped :/
[02:44] <sjoerd> pitti: just the lastest version is good enough
[02:44] <pitti> sjoerd: btw, feel free to import/mirror the Debian versions on LP too for merging love
[02:45] <sjoerd> pitti: if there is some way i can tell launchpad to import the svn repo ? 
[02:45] <pitti> sjoerd: hm, for this you need to ping ddaa, I believe
[02:45] <pitti> sjoerd: with cdbs I just import it manually, but for packages with many uploads this gets cumbersome
[02:45] <sjoerd> right
[02:46] <sjoerd> for me it's just extra work and i need to merge it back into svn manually anyway
[02:47] <pitti> there we go: https://launchpad.net/products/avahi/+branches
[02:47] <pitti> sjoerd: right, so either automatic mirroring or not at all
[02:47] <Mithrandir> pitti: lp can't import svn branches, just trunk.
[02:47] <sjoerd> Lathiat: if Anand kicks back up, i'll ensure that it goes directly to ctte/the release team... We should be able to stop someone damaging his package like this...
[02:47] <Mithrandir> but you can always use bzr-svn
[02:48] <sjoerd> Lathiat: but it's kinda OT here :)
[02:49] <pitti> sjoerd: so now you should be able to subscribe to that branch (never tried it, I assume it emails you on new commits or so)
[02:52] <sjoerd> pitti: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/avahi/ubuntu gives a 404 :(
[02:53] <pitti> sjoerd: argh, might need some time until it is scanned
[02:54] <pitti> sjoerd: sftp:// works, so I think it's just a matter of time
[02:58] <sjoerd> pitti: k, thanks! later :)
[04:12] <bddebian> Heya
[04:14] <_ion> Hi
[04:19] <bddebian> Hello _ion
[05:21] <Guardian> hello, is it the right place to ask for a tutorial on how to build a library with autotools ?
[05:21] <Guardian> i'm hardly finding my way out googling :/
[05:23] <Adri2000> Guardian: you want to package a library?
[05:23] <Guardian> yep
[05:24] <Adri2000> you can ask in #ubuntu-motu
[05:24] <Guardian> i'm currently doing it using a classic makefile of mine
[05:24] <Guardian> i'm building a static lib
[05:45] <jhasse> Does anyone know why the font on the progress bar looks ugly since edgy?
[05:47] <alex-weej> jhasse: i think so
[05:47] <alex-weej> jhasse: does it look kinda grey outlined?
[05:47] <jhasse> alex-weej: yes
[05:47] <_ion> Subpixel antialiasing perhaps?
[05:47] <alex-weej> jhasse: one second
[05:47] <alex-weej> _ion: no
[05:48] <_ion> Blue pixels against a yellow-ish background
[05:48] <alex-weej> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=352435
[05:48] <Ubugtu> Gnome bug 352435 in gtk "GtkProgressBar text rendering errors" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]  
[05:48] <jhasse> alex-weej: thx, i searched for this bug in launchpad but couldn't find it
[05:49] <alex-weej> jhasse: that'll be because it isn't in launchpad :o)
[05:49] <alex-weej> jhasse: i'm yet to see the fix in any release yet though
[05:49] <alex-weej> jhasse: you running Edgy like me?
[05:50] <jhasse> alex-weej: feisty
[05:51] <alex-weej> jhasse: ah, still not there yet then
[05:52] <jhasse> alex-weej: Gnome target:  	Unspecified   	<- maybe 2.18
[05:55] <alex-weej> jhasse: it's been committed to head, i'd guess simply the next gtk release
[06:59] <leonel> sorry but i'd like to know if there's be an firefox2 update for  edgy 
[08:20] <ulaas> mount problems for ntfs drives. known issue for feisty...?
[08:45] <fulldisclosure> Hi.
[08:45] <fulldisclosure> Hi, I have an error compiling gnome-bluetooth for debian.
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[08:46] <fulldisclosure> maybe someone here can help me, because I dont have that package i debian.
[08:46] <bhale> hi, this is not a supprot channel for Ubuntu, and especially not for Debian, sorry.
[08:46] <fulldisclosure> ummm
[09:02] <Seveas> fulldisclosure, #debian is the place you are looking for
[09:02] <fulldisclosure> Seveas, not sure.. but thanks anyway
[09:02] <bddebian> heh
[09:04] <cge> Would I be justified in telling the people arguing about ESR's new paper on devel-discuss to move the discussion to sounder?
[09:05] <bddebian> Or even #who-cares? :-)
[09:06] <Treenaks> bddebian: #esr-fanboys?
[09:06] <Seveas> cge, very much - it has little to do with ubuntu, development of sanity for that mattr
[09:07] <Seveas> Treenaks, !
[09:07] <Treenaks> Seveas: !
[09:07] <Seveas> Treenaks, your blog breaks planet 
[09:07] <bddebian> Heh, heya Treenaks
[09:07] <Treenaks> Seveas: it does?
[09:07] <Treenaks> Seveas: cool!
[09:07] <Seveas> planet takes 99% cpu for infinity when parsing your feed
[09:07] <Treenaks> Seveas: --> pm
[09:08] <leonel> sorry but  if there will  be an firefox2 update for  edgy 
[09:10] <cge> leonel: You would receive a better response by asking in #ubuntu.
[09:11] <leonel> cge: I got a better here with your answer 
[09:11] <leonel> i'll ask again in #ubuntu
[09:11] <leonel> thanks
[09:16] <Treenaks> leonel: constantly asking the same question isn't going to help. There likely won't be an official update, as people are too busy with the new development version.
[09:17] <Treenaks> leonel: uhr wait
[09:17] <Treenaks> leonel: edgy already HAS 2.0
[09:19] <zarathustra> compa leonel 
[09:19] <zarathustra> ya llegue
[09:19] <cge> Treenaks: He's asking about 2.0.0.1
[09:21] <cge> Treenaks: Which is a security update.
[09:21] <Treenaks> cge: then it's probably being looked at
[09:22] <cge> leonel: as Treenaks just said, it's probably being looked at
[09:22] <leonel> cge:  thanks