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imbrandonwhere is this animations plugin lupine_85 12:14
lupine_85Visual Effects->Animation12:14
imbrandonnvm found it12:14
lupine_85...s12:14
imbrandonthanks12:14
imbrandonman this thing needs some major useability team spanking :)12:15
lupine_85imbrandon: we're working on it :)12:15
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imbrandon:)12:15
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_MMA_Hey imbrandon: Heres something I did with the "snow" plugin: http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/6060/screenshotda5.png12:22
imbrandonhahah nice12:23
imbrandonhrm where do i turn the shadows off ( for the windows and the menus )12:23
ajmitchimbrandon: killall beryl12:24
imbrandonhehe12:24
imbrandonthats about the solution i need12:24
ajmitchworks for me ;)12:24
imbrandoni can never get it "quite right"12:24
imbrandonalthough now its useable12:25
imbrandonbut at the cost of a $2k machine12:25
imbrandonlupine_85, make it to where i dont see that damnd icon in the try12:30
imbrandontray*12:30
imbrandonheh12:30
lupine_85imbrandon: killall beryl-manager && beryl --replace && emerald --replace &12:30
lupine_85problem solved :)12:30
imbrandon:)12:31
imbrandonok what about the shadows :)12:31
lupine_85erm. in the window decorations plugin?12:31
lupine_85I think that for 0.2.0 we should have a decent manual written :D12:31
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=== tsmithe wrote a makefile
tsmithenow just to finish porting it12:52
tsmithealthough, i cannot decipher autoconf syntax12:52
tsmitheso i bet it's not "sane12:52
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tsmithedoes gcc define any macros that i could use to identify it as the compiler?01:16
imbrandonprobably01:30
imbrandonalthough afaik thats normaly done with the config script01:30
tsmitheyeah01:42
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theCoredoes the current snapshot of Feisty include compiz/beryl?02:47
theCore(I'm trying to sell Ubuntu to someone, I want to show the bling bling :) 02:47
Adri2000theCore: don't sell feisty to a newbie!02:48
theCoreAdri2000: no, just the cool effects02:48
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_MMA_theCore: All Ive seen is Compiz.02:50
theCore_MMA_: ok, thanks02:51
theCoreI will just boot a live CD02:51
theCoreif there are not enabled, I will just install it02:51
_MMA_theCore: I use Trevio's Beryl-SVN Repo. Seems to work well.02:52
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theCoreit's my Ubuntu conversion's week :)02:52
theCore3 people converted, maybe 1 more 02:53
_MMA_As long as they dont play games, nice. :)02:53
theCorewell, the dual boot option is nice for them02:55
_MMA_Usually the route I go. Sometimes it backfires though. :(02:55
theCoreincidentally, it the forth Windows machine I fix :)02:56
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theCorepeople are really tired of virus, spywares, etc02:57
theCoreso, Ubuntu is a sweet aspirin for them :)02:57
_MMA_Ahh... Always a nice selling point.02:57
theCoreand the 20 min install rocks02:58
theCorethey are always impressed how fast Ubuntu installation is02:59
theCorethat's quite normal. after they waited for a hour for Windows03:00
theCores/for//03:00
_MMA_theCore: Wow. 20 mins? Mine seen to take a bit longer. Perhaps I need a faster CDROM.03:01
_MMA_Fastest one Ive seen was Linspire.03:01
theCore_MMA_: I timed it. It's exactly 24 min03:01
_MMA_nice.03:01
_MMA_I have family coming over tomorrow and I have live disks. :)03:02
theCoreand it appears even faster, because you can actually use the system while it's installing03:02
imbrandon20 minutes? installes in about 9 or 10 here03:23
imbrandon:)03:23
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jdongimbrandon: totally depends on CD-rom drive and burn quality :D03:58
jdongon my premium burner box with black CD-r's Ubuntu installs in around 4-5 minutes on reiserfs notail03:59
jdongon my cheap DVD-RW box ubuntu can take up to 20-30 minutes to install03:59
jdongnot that I recommend using $1 CD-R's to burn ubuntu :D04:00
imbrandoni was talking about stamped cd's04:00
imbrandonbut yea04:00
jdongI wouldn't be surprised at all if Ubuntu took in excess of 20min to install :)04:02
jdongespecially nowadays with all the PC's shipping with no-name OEM optical drives04:02
imbrandoneven the no name optical drives are better than the premium drives of yesteryear04:14
imbrandonbut i see your point04:14
imbrandon:)04:14
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Hobbseejdong: is supertux backported yet?04:18
imbrandonhehe04:19
imbrandonheya Hobbsee 04:19
Hobbseehey imbrandon :)04:19
Hobbseeimbrandon: i think i'm nuts04:19
imbrandonwe think you are too :)04:19
Hobbseeimbrandon: heh, thanks.  i'm looking at the kdepim buglist04:20
imbrandonhoocked on supertux ?04:20
imbrandonahh04:20
imbrandonhooked*04:20
imbrandonHobbsee, s/kmail/mailody/g and it is all good , just teasin , its not ready yet04:20
Hobbseeimbrandon: yeah, i know04:20
Hobbseeimbrandon: yup04:20
imbrandonhrm 04:22
imbrandonajmitch, ever messed with making "tasks" for d-i04:23
imbrandonkinda like whats on the server cd04:23
imbrandonfor LAMP and what ever the other one is04:23
joejaxx:O04:23
joejaxxits imbrandon :D04:24
imbrandonheya joejaxx 04:24
joejaxxhello :)04:24
imbrandonwhat about you, i know you played with the d-i a bit04:24
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joejaxxme?04:24
imbrandoni dont want a totaly custom cd, just change the existing tasks ok the server iso04:24
joejaxxare you talking to ajmitch or me? lol04:27
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jdongHobbsee: make ubuntu-archive process backports and it'll happen :)04:28
Hobbseejdong: ah right04:28
jdongI have no sway over when archive team does its work :)04:28
Hobbseejdong: hehe, fair enough.  you could fix that data loss bug though for the umount progress dialogue04:28
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imbrandonheh i figured out how to make windows xp "wobbly"04:44
imbrandonrun it in vmware LOL04:44
imbrandongah that was terrible, /me needs a nap04:45
jdonglol, imbrandon04:58
jdongI thought it was gonna involve the degauss button04:58
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fowlduckGerald Ford died today at 9306:26
imbrandon:(06:57
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imbrandonohhhh buildd is finished installing, mirror is syncing 09:48
imbrandonlookin good09:48
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ciplogicHi all, I sow that I can spare around 2 hours/day and I want to contribute as much as possible to Ubuntu. I am mostly a C++ developer on CAD systems (which probably does not help as much) but of course I know C, a bit of C# and I am ready to learn11:51
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corehej01:44
coreis there an option to build binarypackages directly without processing the source stage?01:46
FujitsuSurely you need the source to build the binaries... So no.01:46
corewell I have the sources but the situation isn't really simple01:47
coremaybe you've heard something from dylan www.opendylan.org01:48
coreit's just another programming language ;)01:48
corebut it isn't really useful to bootstrap every new version from C01:49
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bddebianHeya gang04:12
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Guardianhi05:24
Guardianis it the right place to ask for a tutorial on how to build a library with autotools ?05:24
bddebianNo, I would read the autotools page on GNU's website :-)05:25
Guardiani would like to build and package a library, currently i'm building a static library using a classic makefile05:25
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bddebianGuardian: Unfortunately we really don't do the low-level upstream packaging, just the Debian/Ubuntu packaging.  Though there are those here that can do it.05:33
Guardianok thx05:37
siretartGuardian: http://www.seul.org/docs/autotut/05:41
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siretartGuardian: if it is a library, you should consider libtool05:42
Guardianthx for the link05:45
bddebianhu hu siretart05:46
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siretarthuhu bddebian :)06:03
bddebianDelayed response? :)06:03
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zulyo09:55
nixternaloy09:58
tsmithehmm09:58
bddebianyohmm09:59
tsmithemhhoy?09:59
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Burgworkajmitch: I am glad we don't have ESR using ubuntu10:22
bddebianheh10:22
Burgworkajmitch: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2006-December/msg00519.html10:22
zulBurgwork, why would we want him to use it ;)10:24
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Burgworkzul: glad we don't have hin10:27
zulBurgwork, yeah he is a bit of a nutter10:28
Burgworks/a bit/a complete/10:28
zorglu_hehe the redhat guy is not the fastest to react tho :) the esr thing is 3 years old :)10:29
bddebianWow, this is entertaining stuff :)10:29
Burgworkwhat happens when you don't have a CoC10:29
Burgworkpeople calling each names doesn't happen on our lists, thank the lords10:29
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joejaxxHello Everyone10:38
bddebianHeya joejaxx10:38
joejaxxbddebian: :) how are you10:40
bddebianJust wunderbar10:41
siretartoh. bddebian is learning german?10:41
siretart:)10:42
bddebianHeh, I wish10:42
joejaxxbddebian: that is good to hear L)10:42
joejaxx:)  *10:42
siretart#debian-newmaint has just been taken over by de_DE10:42
gesersiretart: are you going to give bddebian german lessons in #ubuntu-classroom?10:43
siretartif he wants to learn ;)10:44
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joejaxxsiretart: whould you really do german lessons lol10:46
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bddebianwo is das beir?10:49
bddebianHow bad did I botch that up? :-)10:50
ajmitchBurgwork: interesting10:50
geserbddebian: not that bad,  is -> ist and beir -> bier10:52
bddebiangah10:52
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bddebianHow do I say "my life sucks" in German? :)10:54
siretartbddebian: heh10:54
siretartbddebian: literally: "mein Leben saugt", but nobody really talks like that10:56
bddebianheh10:57
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bddebianGah, I see REVU is still overflowing.. :(11:02
tsmitheoh dear11:03
tsmithei just uploaded again11:03
tsmithe;)11:03
somerville32tsmithe: Did your first package get accepted?11:04
somerville32ie. Did you ever figure out the python policy stuff? haha11:04
tsmithesomerville32, err nope11:04
zulhah take that mofos xen-3.0.4 and 2.6.1911:04
tsmitheit's got 1 whatsit11:04
tsmitheadvocation11:05
siretartcan someone explain me, didn't we decide at the last motu meeting that future reviews should go via launchpad in bzr branches?11:05
bddebianxen schmen..11:05
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bddebiansiretart: I couldn't keep up :)11:05
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bddebiantsmithe: What package?11:06
tsmitheasoundconf-gtk11:06
tsmitheand i have two others11:07
tsmitheit's gone!11:07
tsmitheyay!11:07
tsmitheit's uploaded!11:07
tsmitheok11:07
tsmithetwo more packages, which are more urgent, and for ubuntustudio11:07
tsmithealsa-firmware: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=389511:07
tsmithehttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=389211:08
tsmithe^ alsa-tools11:08
tsmitheoh no - it's not uploaded11:09
siretarttsmithe: err, are both just updates?11:09
tsmitheyes it is uploaded11:09
tsmithesiretart, alsa-firmware is new11:09
tsmithealsa-tools is an update11:09
tsmithe(but a pretty major change for alsa-firmware-loaders, one of the resulting binaries)11:09
bddebiansomerville32: Shouldn't pyneighborhood go into /usr/lib/python-support/foo ?11:11
shawarmaWhere does python get its sys.path from?11:11
somerville32bddebian, pyneighborhood - maybe but pyneighborhood isn't a module11:11
bddebianHrm, OK11:12
shawarmaI'm trying to figure out how python-support gets into sys.path.. does anyone know this?11:15
bddebianshawarma: No clue sorry11:18
shawarmabddebian: No problem. I'll try in #python.11:18
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bddebianshawarma: Well just because I don't know, doesn't mean someone with a brain doesn't :)11:20
shawarmabddebian: heh.. True. 11:20
ajmitchsymlinks11:20
bddebiansee :)11:21
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gnomefreakwhat happened to the java licence instead of just hitting y now you hit Y to get another screen to hit ok?11:28
bddebianBecause Java sucks?11:28
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gnomefreakyes i know but it never used to do it11:30
bddebianSo what do we do about REVU packages that were ack'd by two advocates, look OK but are for Edgy?  Update and upload or ask the submitter to update it?11:32
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imbrandonbddebian, imho i would just change the distro , check build it and upload11:46
imbrandonno reason to go back though the process11:46
imbrandon( just my 0.2c )11:46
bddebianimbrandon: Already uploaded it ;-)11:47
imbrandonheheh11:47
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imbrandon:)11:47
somerville32imbrandon: Can I get my new passwd? : )11:47
imbrandonsomerville32, yea it will just use your ssh key from LP11:47
imbrandonwhats your LP name11:47
somerville32cody-somerville11:48
imbrandonk one sec11:48
shawarmaAutomatic syncing from Debian stopped on the 21st, right?11:48
imbrandonyes11:48
bddebianshawarma: Yeah, so get to work cleaning up the rest of those merges ;-P11:49
shawarmabddebian: I'm just wondering why exaile (which was in Debian a before then) hasn't been synced.11:49
bddebianI looked at that and I can't remember why.  Is it on the blacklist?11:50
shawarmabddebian: Hardly. It's a mediaplayer so why would it?11:50
bddebianHmm, nope11:50
shawarmaHow do I find the NEW queue? I can never remember the path to it in LP.11:52
imbrandonsomerville32, all setup , try it to make sure it works becasuse i'm about to hit the shower , none of the pbuilders are setup yet11:52
imbrandonthe ip and stuff is .....11:52
imbrandonsomerville32, ssh ssh-dss AAAAB3NzaC1kc3MAAAEBAODhhbY3NwAmla+0P5rGT1YBkDC9WV2gplibtrzmKGzFEQkqOj7EohDQS3SV/Ruc8x1aeBFz+jWUKYmR3EtVW0exJWZXVgUyi7UFi2A4aRCW++DPc/XFs2cXk5rfMLlRQVGREkxc0YFeYBD52YTRBENXfrqIM9MCSB0csivRxa9KoShkKD+TwZTIXtO/LBKMfKiPytf5cLnVysx6t3f9TlM1oOder7T4bgnMM3/iw/tghxBEuMukDub0FQfD54JF5CikhQ/IiSUlhQsZxBv53iH0JxGaK6ClelvgUSvoVUh5L2Icb9XAQP99fcHHNgR2H3WumDSGJYSMj4nnvLpz5ykAAAAVAOVCJi2EfxGEyB9xHitKHAd+CHVBAAABAQCqJ11:52
imbrandonshit11:53
imbrandonummm11:53
bddebianshawarma: It's not on there. :-(  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text=11:53
imbrandonsomerville32, ssh -p5022 cody-somerville@build.imbrandon.com11:53
shawarmabddebian: Did you have that url bookmarked or did you actually find a link to it somewhere on lp?11:53
imbrandonyour ssh key should be loaded11:53
bddebianshawarma: I have it bookmarked :)11:54
shawarmabddebian: Wise man.11:54
somerville32Yeah, I'm logged in! :] 11:54
imbrandonok somerville32 i'll finish setting up the pbuilders here when i get out of the shower11:55
imbrandonsomerville32, pay attn to the MOTD 11:55
imbrandonit will have the pbuilder info etc11:55
somerville32ok11:55
somerville32:] 11:55
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imbrandonheh and please dont wall while i'm editing configs :)11:56
gesershawarma: start on LP -> goto Ubuntu -> goto feisty under releases (right side) -> View Uploads (left side)11:56
shawarmageser: ah... Well spotted!11:57
shawarmaDoes 'python /etc/python2.4/site.py | grep pycentral11:59
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shawarmawhoops11:59
shawarmaDoes 'python /etc/python2.4/site.py | grep pycentral' give any output on your systems?12:00
somerville32no12:03
shawarmasomerville32: Thanks. I think I've figured out what's going on. 12:10
somerville32np12:10

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