[12:01] <compengi> crowley1027, it's was for me :)
[12:01] <IdleOne> Riyonuk, no not everytime but this time yes
[12:01] <Riyonuk> And you said everything is from synaptic, I cant find warsow
[12:01] <crowley1027> compengi: oh.
[12:01] <Riyonuk> http://www.warsow.net/
[12:01] <crowley1027> centosian: hello??
[12:01] <IdleOne> Riyonuk, everything that is available in the repositories that is
[12:01] <thehumanerror> cody: I did a search using Google for ubuntu bcm43xx, the first two results look very promising, ones from an Ubuntu forum thread that a poll (they had a poll at the top of the thread) said worked for 67% of people or something (!) and the second result is the Ubuntu Wiki page for using bcm43xx. I'm sure one of those resources will help you
[12:01] <qoq> any tips on partitioning an external HD (320GB) using Gparted livecd? dapper livecd couldn't do it
[12:01] <centosian> and the hard drive is faster member:crowley1027
[12:01] <fnord_> #ubuntu-xgl
[12:01] <shinobi2> is there a way to display the read, write and re-write speed of a cdrom?
[12:01] <Riyonuk> ok
[12:01] <Riyonuk> thanks
[12:02] <pengo> hie
[12:02] <arawn> hello, I need your help plz
[12:02] <fnord_> ask away
[12:02] <arawn> I installed Wine in Ubuntu
[12:02] <pengo> i am a problem with firefox ,java applets dont work
[12:02] <IdleOne> ask and ye shall receive
[12:02] <compengi> i got this running in my processes can any one tell me what are those? if they are default or something wrong going on because i don't remember those processes running http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38932/
[12:03] <IdleOne> pengo, sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin
[12:03] <arawn> and I installed 'Powerpoint viewer' .
[12:03] <pengo> ok i am trying
[12:03] <Yodude> can someone help me a bit?
[12:03] <fnord_> hey im getting a really wierd out put from glxinfo
[12:03] <fnord_> !anyone
[12:03] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:03] <crowley1027> !ask | yodude
[12:03] <ubotu> yodude: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:03] <arawn> maybe, when I open a .pps document, Powerpoint does not open
[12:03] <Yodude> ok i want to try ubuntu
[12:04] <Yodude> but without touching my windows installation
[12:04] <Yodude> can i?
[12:04] <IdleOne> pengo, you need to restart firefox after you install those 2 packages
[12:04] <alex-weej> arawn: Powerpoint Viewer is not registered as an application able to open .pps files
[12:04] <IdleOne> Yodude, yup you can
[12:04] <pengo> ok i am installing now
[12:04] <pengo> Thanks
[12:04] <pengo> i will say you results
[12:04] <fnord_> hey im getting a reallly wierd out put from glxinfo
[12:04] <fnord_> fnord@ubuntu:~$ glxinfo
[12:04] <fnord_> name of display: :0.0
[12:04] <fnord_> X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[12:05] <Eclypse> how do I stop apt from returning "WARNING: The following packages could not be authenticted!"?
[12:05] <fnord_>  Major opcode of failed request:  142 (GLX)
[12:05] <fnord_>   Minor opcode of failed request:  3 (X_GLXCreateContext)
[12:05] <fnord_>   Serial number of failed request:  16
[12:05] <arawn> When I associate .pps to : wine ' home/USER/blahblah/PPVIEW' ; powerpoint viewer will open. without my document
[12:05] <thehumanerror> cody: do you get anything with iwconfig?
[12:05] <fnord_>  Current serial number in output stream:  17
[12:05] <alex-weej> arawn: you can achieve that by choosing "Open With..." in the context menu of a PowerPoint file, and using "wine 'C:\\Path\\To\\Viewer.exe'" as the application
[12:05] <Eclypse> how do I stop apt from returning "WARNING: The following packages could not be authenticted!"?
[12:05] <compengi> crowley1027, do you know what are those processes for? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38932/
[12:05] <Yodude> ok tell  me how
[12:05] <fnord_> Eclypse, authenticate them
[12:06] <anto> configure: error: "lua headers are missing."
[12:06] <Yodude> i read that i can download an image then burn then run
[12:06] <Eclypse> fnord_ how?
[12:06] <alex-weej> Eclypse: are you using unsupported repositories?
[12:06] <pengo> i wont work again
[12:06] <Yodude> can it be THAT simple?
[12:06] <linopil> so much post -install
[12:06] <IdleOne> Yodude, www.ubuntu.com
[12:06] <anto> mwe: configure: error: "lua headers are missing."
[12:06] <cody> thehumanerror: I do, it gives me info about it
[12:06] <fnord_> get the pgp key from there site
[12:06] <IdleOne> Yodude,  yes it can :)
[12:06] <Yodude> yes that's where i read it
[12:06] <Eclypse> alex-weej, I don't know. I use universal, backports, official, automatic, et.c
[12:06] <Some_Person> safe mode didnt work
[12:06] <crowley1027> compengi: i'm a linux noob.
[12:06] <arawn> alex-weej ... it's ok, Powerpoint viewer run. maybe, it don't oopen my document 	
[12:06] <arawn> automatically
[12:06] <Yodude> but what if i download then burn
[12:06] <copyleft_> is there a repositories for flash 9 plugin
[12:06] <Yodude> then it doesn't work?
[12:07] <Some_Person> could it be because my drive is usb?
[12:07] <alex-weej> copyleft_: no
[12:07] <crowley1027> centosian: do you know what these http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38932/  processes are?
[12:07] <Yodude> what if i can't turn my PC on after it!?
[12:07] <alex-weej> Eclypse: you need to install the GPG keys for the maintainers of your unofficial repositories
[12:07] <sillynewb> how do I get wireless to work under ubuntu?
[12:07] <IdleOne> Yodude, why wouldnt you be able to
[12:07] <sillynewb> I think my laptop has a internal wireless card or something
[12:07] <IdleOne> !wifi | sillynewb
[12:07] <ubotu> sillynewb: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:07] <Eclypse> alex-weej, how?
[12:07] <sillynewb> but I can't pull it up via lspci or dmesg
[12:07] <alex-weej> Eclypse: or just turn off any repositor that isn't *.ubuntu.com
[12:08] <Yodude> cuz maybe my hardware isn't compatible ( although i checked and it seems compatible:
[12:08] <arawn> 
[12:08] <arawn> the applicatif one opens well, but does not open my document automatically.
[12:08] <Eclypse> alex-weej, how do I get the gpg keys for all of them?
[12:08] <mwe> anto: install liblua5liblua50-dev probably
[12:08] <alex-weej> Eclypse: go to their website, there's no standard procedure
[12:08] <IdleOne> Yodude, burn the cd and see you in about 30 minutes running Ubuntu Live :)
[12:08] <anto> mwe: i have allready got it installed
[12:08] <Yodude> lol
[12:08] <Eclypse> alex-weej, it does this for like almost every package I try to install . . . .
[12:08] <alex-weej> Eclypse: reload the package information
[12:08] <Eclypse> alex-weej, I don't think i have the official GPG key installed.
[12:08] <Yodude> so it automatically detects everything?
[12:08] <sillynewb> how do I figure out if my ubuntu is dapper or breezy?
[12:09] <Eclypse> alex-weej, what do you mean? sudo apt-get update?
[12:09] <bandit> hi all, I am having some troubles with my sound. it was working okay and now it completely stopped. what are some tools to figure out whats going on?
[12:09] <IdleOne> Yodude,  99.9%
[12:09] <Eclypse> alex-weej, if so, that wont work.
[12:09] <Yodude> lol, why?
[12:09] <compengi> sillynewb, from the kernel version
[12:09] <Some_Person> can i even install ubuntu from a bootable usb cd drive?
[12:09] <IdleOne> Yodude, of course not everything is perfect but you should be just fine
[12:09] <Dagfari> greetings
[12:09] <Yodude> ok i still have some questions
[12:09] <compengi> sillynewb, run uname -a in your ternimal
[12:09] <compengi> terminal*
[12:10] <Yodude> let's say i downloaded ubuntu ( .iso)
[12:10] <Cald> hello
[12:10] <Yodude> and i burnt it
[12:10] <Cald> how can i change the charset used by bash plz ?
[12:10] <Dagfari> do I just blurt out my question?
[12:10] <Yodude> first question: i just put it in my CD ROM and it boots?
[12:10] <IdleOne> Dagfari, yup
[12:10] <pengo> applets arent work yet
[12:10] <IdleOne> Yodude,  provided that your computer is set to boot from cd first yes
[12:11] <Cald> or the charset used by the system
[12:11] <Dagfari> ok, is there an option to save an installer to my laptop harddrive and run setup from there? I don't have a cdrom in it
[12:11] <Yodude> and how do i set it to boot from a CD?
[12:11] <Yodude> BIOS>
[12:11] <Yodude> ?
[12:11] <Dagfari> yodude, yes
[12:11] <Yodude> i thought BIOS is a part of windows
[12:11] <Dagfari> basic input/output system
[12:11] <Yodude> ok let's say i configured the NIOS
[12:11] <Dagfari> it's part of your motherboard
[12:11] <Yodude> BIOS
[12:11] <Madpilot> yock, no, it's hardware-based, not OS-based
[12:11] <compengi> i got this running in my processes can any one tell me what are those? if they are default or something wrong going on because i don't remember those processes running http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38932/
[12:12] <Madpilot> Yodude, even ^^^
[12:12] <Eclypse> alex-weej you have an answer for me?
[12:12] <MementoMori> hi all
[12:12] <Yodude> and let's say i put the CD and it ran, i can face some problems
[12:12] <Yodude> for instace m y mouse it USB based
[12:12] <IdleOne> compengi, all normal
[12:12] <MementoMori> where can I ask some pyqt4 related question?
[12:12] <compengi> IdleOne, okay thanks alot
[12:13] <IdleOne> compengi, yup
[12:13] <Yodude> which brings me to ask is the CD version already packed with the necessary drivers?
[12:13] <Madpilot> Yodude, USB mice should work on the LiveCD - even wireless mice to, IME
[12:13] <alex-weej> Eclypse: no, the keys for the official repositories really should already be on your system
[12:13] <Yodude> so ubuntu has all the drivers
[12:13] <Yodude> yes?
[12:13] <alexises> me revoila
[12:13] <IdleOne> yes
[12:13] <alex-weej> Eclypse: either they aren't, or someone is persistently intercepting your connection :P
[12:13] <bandit> Hello, can anybody tell where I can look to see why I am no longer getting any sound? the mixer is set to autodetect but i still can't hear anything
[12:13] <alexises> sorry
[12:13] <Yodude> cool!
[12:13] <Eclypse> alex-weej, I am using a proxy of that has anything to do wit hhit
[12:14] <Yodude> and another question: i have a NETGEAR FA311 fast ehternet network card
[12:14] <alex-weej> Eclypse: possibly.
[12:14] <Yodude> is it supported ( i know how to configure my xconnection in windows)
[12:14] <sillynewb> how do I know if I am running breezy or dapper?
[12:14] <IdleOne> Yodude, like I said before not everything is perfect so if you do have any problems you can come back here and ask for help :)
[12:14] <HymnToLife> sillynewb, uname -r
[12:14] <HymnToLife> 2.6.12 = Breezy, 2.6.15 = Dapper
[12:14] <Eclypse> alex-weej, this is really annoying.
[12:14] <sillynewb> 2.6.17-10-generic
[12:15] <HymnToLife> that's Edgy
[12:15] <Madpilot> Yodude, for mice/keyboards/etc, they should just work. Wireless might be tougher.
[12:15] <sillynewb> what does.17 = ?
[12:15] <Yodude> but that's where i'm confused, if something goes wrong will i even be able to reboot with WINDOWS?
[12:15] <alex-weej> Eclypse: it will only cause a problem if your proxy is modifying the package files
[12:15] <alex-weej> sillynewb: that's your kernel version
[12:15] <IdleOne> Yodude, yes
[12:15] <Eclypse> alex-weej, I can't use automatix because it stops it at "cannot authenticate" and automatix doesn't automaticalyl say yes.
[12:15] <Madpilot> Yodude, the LiveCD does not touch your hard drive or installed OS at all
[12:15] <Yodude> by re-configuring BIOS?
[12:15] <Eclypse> alex-weej it's not.
[12:15] <Madpilot> Eclypse, be glad you can't use automatix. It's a good way to break your system.
[12:15] <alex-weej> Eclypse: disable all unofficial repositories, reload, and see if the error ir still there.
[12:15] <IdleOne> Yodude, the live cd runs the operating system from the cd it doesnt touch/change the windows at all
[12:16] <Spaghetti_Knife> Where do I find the newest version of java for my ubuntu?
[12:16] <Madpilot> Yodude, just reboot w/ no CD in the drive, Windows will start normally
[12:16] <linopil> in /usr/lib I have folder firefox and mozilla-firefox
[12:16] <alex-weej> Eclypse: generally, Automatix, etc. are an utter sack of crap and you should just not use them.
[12:16] <Spaghetti_Knife> I can only find up to 1.4.
[12:16] <Spaghetti_Knife> No 1.5
[12:16] <Eclypse> madpilot, I'm not in the mood for ignorant people right now.
[12:16] <Yodude> ok one more question ( lol i ask a lot of question cuz i'm totally new to linux)
[12:16] <linopil> which is the right one for plugins
[12:16] <Madpilot> Eclypse, excuse me?
[12:16] <Spaghetti_Knife> I can't find Java  1.5.
[12:16] <Yodude> updates: i can install updates when running the liveCD yes?
[12:17] <Yodude> i mean "can't"
[12:17] <alex-weej> Yodude: you can but there's little point
[12:17] <Yodude> oh i CAN?
[12:17] <Spaghetti_Knife> How do I install java webstart 1.5?
[12:17] <finalbeta> Yodude, you can as long as you have enough ram
[12:17] <Yodude> good
[12:17] <IdleOne> Yodude, you can but once you reboot to windows they wont be saved
[12:17] <Spaghetti_Knife> Add/Remove only has 1.4.
[12:17] <linopil> sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin Spaghetti_Knife
[12:17] <alex-weej> Yodude: why do you want to install updates from the livecd?
[12:17] <Slart> n2diy: I've looked around my menus and there is a reference to the mythical "disks admin" applet.. it's supposed to be in my /usr/bin directory but it's not... and using this applet I'm supposed to be able to set what drives are visible from nautilus/gnome...
[12:17] <alex-weej> Yodude: any changes you make to the LiveCD environment are lost when you shut it down.
[12:17] <Eclypse> madpilot, everyone in this IRC channel seems to think that automatix is the plague, I've never had a problem with it, ever.  and many people tell me that this channel is just biased against it so I'm just done with that crap.
[12:17] <Yodude> ok
[12:18] <alex-weej> Slart: disks-admin was removed in previous releases
[12:18] <IdleOne> Yodude, one more thing
[12:18] <Dagfari> so I guess noone knows about installing Ubuntu from other than cd rom?
[12:18] <Slart> alex-weej: oh.. what are we supposed to use now ?
[12:18] <alex-weej> Dagfari: install the ISO on to a usb key and boot that
[12:18] <Spaghetti_Knife> linopil It says I'm at the latest version already, but it's not running the scanner class.
[12:18] <IdleOne> Yodude, the live cd will be alot slower then what you are used to so dont let that affect your decision on installing permanently :)
[12:18] <fnord_> Eclypse,  | !patiance
[12:18] <linopil> Eclypse, ?
[12:18] <alex-weej> Slart: what are you trying to do?
[12:18] <n2diy> Slart: Roger that, so with 6.10 it isn't included, and you have to add it?
[12:18] <Madpilot> Eclypse, regulars on this channel have seen too many systems broken by autobreakitz, and too much bad attitude from the dev team of the thing... hence the default 'avoid entirely' attitude here...
[12:18] <Slart> alex-weej: I'm trying to update the drive list in the places tab in  nautlius
[12:18] <Dagfari> I don't have a USB key, either
[12:19] <Spaghetti_Knife> linopil: Do you know much about java?
[12:19] <linopil> no
[12:19] <alex-weej> Eclypse: Automatix is like an aftermarket spoiler for your car that you buy off ebay that turns out to be rubbish
[12:19] <fnord_> !patiance | Eclypse
[12:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about patiance - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:19] <Yodude> question: so when using LiveCD, i am not able to save files or whatever else to the hardrive itself?
[12:19] <Slart> n2diy: I have no idea.. alex-weej seems like the evil mastermind behind this.. ;)
[12:19] <KirillZ> Hey guys, I get "Couldn't find package courier-imap" after doing "apt-get install courier-imap". Any tips?
[12:19] <linopil> !patience | fnord
[12:19] <ubotu> fnord: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:19] <Eclypse> fnord_ I don't want to hear that bot.
[12:19] <n2diy> Slart: Who is he, a developer?
[12:19] <bandit> Hey guys, i really want to get my sound working again, and I can't figure out why its not playing? i am not a noob, but i have no experience with audio
[12:20] <alex-weej> bandit: what's the problem?
[12:20] <finalbeta> Slart, you can manually edit /etc/fstab , feisty will have a replacement, and feisty should dynamically update that list even.
[12:20] <Slart> n2diy: he's in this channel =).. I have no idea who he is... but he knew that it was removed in the 6.10 release
[12:20] <finalbeta> yet that is still 4 months off
[12:20] <Yodude> so i can say that the liveCD is just to see how ubuntu works and not to actually use the system a bit?
[12:20] <Some_Person> ubuntu can only be installed by booting a cd, right
[12:20] <alex-weej> Some_Person: wrong
[12:21] <n2diy> Slart: Ok, so he saved you some trouble shooting then.
[12:21] <bandit> well... nothing is coming out the speakers! its playing in totem or whatever but nothing can be heard, its not muted and everything is plugged in. my hardware plays when i am in windwos so its not that either
[12:21] <IdleOne> Yodude, no you can use the entire system without having to install it
[12:21] <Slart> finalbeta: oh, I've done that.. I can use the drive.. but I have to go through filesystem, media, sdd3.. the other drives I can just select directly from the places-tab
[12:21] <finalbeta> Yodude, indeed, yet, I personally also used the live CD to test hardware and recover windows passwords.
[12:21] <Slart> n2diy: indeed =)
[12:21] <Madpilot> Eclypse, if your issue is with Automatix, then #automatix is probably a better channel for you than #ubuntu...
[12:21] <Some_Person> how else can it be installed?
[12:21] <Dagfari> great question
[12:21] <Yodude> great!!! so it can control the hardrive that windows uses and add and delete files top it?
[12:21] <Slart> finalbeta: can I edit the list manually? until feisty is available
[12:21] <linopil> I want another partition huge one to continue (enlarge transparently) /home how ??
[12:22] <Eclypse> madpilot, my only issue with automatix is that it doesn't have an auto yes for the unable to authenticat eprompt, which is not what I'm here for, I'm here because apt isn't able to authenticate said packages.
[12:22] <alex-weej> Yodude: Windows XP uses the "NTFS" file system, which is proprietary and had to be largely reverse-engineered. Write support for it is not enabled by default in Linux due to risk of data loss.
[12:22] <finalbeta> Slart,  not sure, but go to the drive with nautilus, and then add a bookmark. That place should then be added to that list I think.
[12:22] <Some_Person> alex-weej: how else can ubuntu be installed?
[12:22] <Madpilot> Eclypse, which repos?
[12:22] <Eclypse> madpilot, I'm pretty sure it's all official. . . .
[12:22] <IdleOne> Eclypse, apt cant authenticate probably because automatix broke them
[12:23] <Yodude> that's ok, cause i have the hardrive (D) that
[12:23] <Eclypse> idleone, quiet you.
[12:23] <light_> i'm keep getting "...ImportError: No module named glade"  while trying to upgrade dapper to edgy using "gksu "update-manager -c"" and the apt-get alternative doesn't work either (doesn't find any updates)
[12:23] <Yodude> it's FAT332
[12:23] <IdleOne> Eclypse, F U
[12:23] <Yodude> 32*
[12:23] <alex-weej> Some_Person: lots and lots of different ways :)
[12:23] <Slart> finalbeta... yes.. but then it goes to the bottom of the list.. and it's colored like a bookmark.. instead of the fancy hard drive graphics.. it's really just an annyoance.. but still
[12:23] <Yodude> can it be written to?
[12:23] <Madpilot> IdleOne, Eclypse - be polite.
[12:23] <Eclypse> IdleOne, try using your brain then mindlessly blaming automatix.
[12:23] <KirillZ> Hey, just to shed some more light. Could it not be finding "courier-imap" package because apt-get itself got corrupt somehow? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks :)
[12:23] <TehBigToe> guys, I want to start doing backups, I have a new DVD+-RW drive and I'm going to get some rewritables tomorrow, how do I set ubuntu to do a backup every night of all the files that have changed and put them on the disc, while keeping the old files on there and overwriting them if there's a newer version?
[12:23] <Eclypse> rather then*
[12:23] <Madpilot> Eclypse, can you pastebin your sources.list?
[12:23] <alex-weej> Yodude: FAT32 is 100% supported (the specification is open)
[12:23] <Eclypse> madpilot, if it is necessary, yes
[12:23] <Eclypse> madpilot, what's the pastebin site again?
[12:23] <alex-weej> TehBigToe: look up "rsync"
[12:23] <TehBigToe> ok
[12:23] <bandit> alex-week, are there any log files i can look to see why I am not hearing any sound?
[12:23] <IdleOne> Madpilot, I was polite he is being a arse and should be sent on his way. Im done going back to people who actualy want help
[12:23] <Madpilot> ubotu, paste | Eclypse
[12:23] <Some_Person> alex-weej: ?
[12:24] <ubotu> Eclypse: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:24] <webmaren> TehBigToe: that's kind of a waste of disks
[12:24] <lotwook> I'm using Avidemux to convert an avi file to MPG to make a VCD. It is taking a very long time to encode, approximately in real time with the video. Is this a neccessary evil or is there a fast encoder out there?
[12:24] <TehBigToe> webmaren, no it isn't
[12:24] <TehBigToe> I only use one disc
[12:24] <Yodude> good good this way i can transfer files that i work with and use them with both Win and ubuntu, i just put the files made with ubuntu on D: and then in windows transfer them on C:
[12:24] <TehBigToe> and update it every night
[12:24] <Yodude> that's a solution no?>
[12:24] <webmaren> TehBigToe: ah
[12:24] <alex-weej> lotwook: are you re-encoding the video data or just remuxing it?
[12:24] <TehBigToe> a reweritable disc
[12:24] <alex-weej> bandit: do you have jabber?
[12:25] <webmaren> TehBigToe: well, then you'll lose the files you wrote the day before when you overwrite for the next night
[12:25] <Madpilot> Yodude, if you have a FAT32 partition, then both XP & Ubuntu could read & write files to it, yes
[12:25] <bandit> alex-weej, i have google talk and gaim
[12:25] <insomninja> anyone here who have any experience from asus laptops?
[12:25] <alex-weej> bandit: what's your JID?
[12:25] <Some_Person> alex-weej: how else can ubuntu be installed than booting a cd?
[12:25] <kck> anyone here familiar with stl_alloc and why it's not part of libstdc++6-4.0-dev?
[12:25] <lotwook> It apprears I am re-encoding, basically loaded the the avi and chose auto > create VCD
[12:25] <Yodude> AWESOME. i really think i'm gonna use ubuntu for some stuff
[12:25] <alex-weej> Some_Person: netinstall from an existing UNIX installation, off a usb key, etc.
[12:26] <Yodude> maybe not all of my computing, but i'm sure linux is a system i can count on
[12:26] <TehBigToe> webmaren, I will?
[12:26] <Yodude> not like that crappy windows
[12:26] <sillynewb> lshw gives me this:         *-network DISABLED
[12:26] <sillynewb>              description: Wireless interface
[12:26] <sillynewb>              product: Broadcom Corporation
[12:26] <sillynewb>              vendor: Broadcom Corporation
[12:26] <sillynewb>  <-- how do I go from this to working wireless?
[12:26] <alex-weej> lotwook: video re-encoding does take a while, way slower than real time
[12:26] <TehBigToe> I'll overwrite the existing ones
[12:26] <webmaren> TehBigToe: sounds like you will
[12:26] <Some_Person> so can i install 6.10 by booting the 6.06 live cd?
[12:26] <Some_Person> i have 2 drives
[12:26] <TehBigToe> but not delete the existing unchanged ones?
[12:26] <alex-weej> lotwook: you're looking at maybe 6 hours for a full length film
[12:26] <TehBigToe> surely?
[12:26] <finalbeta> Some_Person, it's possible, but I wouldn't do that. Please download the news live CD.
[12:27] <alex-weej> Some_Person: why would you want to do that? can you not boot the 6.10 live cd?
[12:27] <webmaren> TehBigToe: I think you will, check with someone else though, I've never worked with ReWritable disks before
[12:27] <Some_Person> the 6.10 one wont boot
[12:27] <lotwook> alex-weej: ok thanks. suppose I should look into some overnight scripting :)
[12:27] <Some_Person> dont know why
[12:27] <TehBigToe> ACTION is listening to DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Could not open network socket
[12:27] <Yodude> btw can i ask you guys something about ubuntu and also some other thing?
[12:27] <alex-weej> Some_Person: have you tried the minimal CD?
[12:27] <alex-weej> Yodude: just ask
[12:27] <IdleOne> Yodude, ask away
[12:27] <Some_Person> i tried the regular one
[12:27] <finalbeta> Some_Person, much chance a 6.10 disk install wont boot either, did you report a bug?
[12:27] <Some_Person> and i tried safemode
[12:27] <TehBigToe> argh, who put the "Amarok NP" button next to the taskbar?
[12:27] <bandit> alex-weej, its xsrevolt but i am having difficulties connecting with gaim, i'm going to look it up real quick
[12:27] <finalbeta> Some_Person, try the alternate one
[12:27] <TehBigToe> :s webmaren
[12:27] <Some_Person> i know the 6.06 boots
[12:28] <TehBigToe> I might do it manually then
[12:28] <Yodude> i heard Google develloped a system based on ubuntu linux, called "Goobuntu"
[12:28] <Eclypse> madpilot past.ubuntu-nl.org/38934
[12:28] <alex-weej> Yodude: no.
[12:28] <Some_Person> cant i just install 6.10 from 6.06 cd
[12:28] <TehBigToe> do it in list mode and see the modified dates
[12:28] <webmaren> TehBigToe: go out and buy an external drive
[12:28] <alex-weej> bandit: never mind we can do it over the channel
[12:28] <TehBigToe> pfft, no
[12:28] <Yodude> no? i mean internally they use it
[12:28] <infidel> how do i check my irq's?
[12:28] <Yodude> i was gonna ask if it's ever gonna get released to the public
[12:28] <TehBigToe> that involves money
[12:28] <Yodude> 'i would SURE use it
[12:28] <braden__> hi there, how can I get ubuntu to mount my ipod into /media/ipod for use with gtkpod?
[12:28] <TehBigToe> and I am saving up the money I have for a new PC :f
[12:28] <alex-weej> bandit: what sound card is it?
[12:28] <bandit> okay, I got on if u still want tho
[12:28] <finalbeta> Yodude, they didn't, and why would you use it?
[12:29] <bandit> its a built in one intel something
[12:29] <finalbeta> The google craze is 2 much.
[12:29] <TehBigToe> I rarely get money, and this christmas I'm saving it up instead of blowing it all on random stuff
[12:29] <Yodude> because of a really simple thing: I...HATE...WINDOWS
[12:29] <bandit> alex-weej, INTEL ICH5
[12:29] <braden__> anyone?
[12:29] <Madpilot> Eclypse, which of those repos isn't authenticating?
[12:29] <danielmccauley> If I were to install an old version of Ubuntu 5.* , would I just need to re-download the 6.06 ISO to upgrade?
[12:29] <alex-weej> bandit: what happens when you run "gst-launch-0.10 audiotestsrc ! gconfaudiosink"? (press ctrl+c to quit it)
[12:29] <Yodude> and i think Google would make an OS very easy to use and maybe that can run some windows software somehow
[12:29] <Eclypse> madpilot it seems like all of them, I get that error when trying to install anything.
[12:30] <webmaren> TehBigToe: then buy a second HD
[12:30] <alex-weej> Yodude: we can already run Windows software
[12:30] <webmaren> TehBigToe: and backup to that
[12:30] <TehBigToe> but but but
[12:30] <alex-weej> I'm running Steam with Counter-Strike and Half-Life, etc.!
[12:30] <juanchito2006> Need help with my monitor: HP L1706. After installing the ATi driver and reboot, the monitor gets out of sync
[12:30] <bandit> alex-weej, it looks like its play but I can't hear anything
[12:30] <Yodude> WHAT! you;re kidding!
[12:30] <Yodude> but it's Linux!
[12:30] <webmaren> TehBigToe: and you can put it in your new comp
[12:30] <DarthLappy> Yodude: And...?
[12:30] <kck> it's a windows emulator
[12:30] <Madpilot> Eclypse, odd. you've got a standard repo set except for the automatix & wine ones - you probably need to add the keys for either/both of them
[12:30] <IdleOne> Yodude, with wine , vmware , cedega for games
[12:30] <kck> wine, winex, or cedega
[12:31] <alex-weej> Yodude: a lot of people spent a lot of time coding an open source version of the Windows libraries so we can run Windows software. it's called "Wine"
[12:31] <Eclypse> madpilot, how would I go about doing that?
[12:31] <linopil> !xgl
[12:31] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:31] <kck> Let me put it this way: today is going to be a learning experience.
[12:31] <alex-weej> bandit: ok try this
[12:31] <danielmccauley> If I were to install an old version of Ubuntu 5.* , would I just need to re-download the 6.06 ISO to upgrade?
[12:31] <Yodude> i can't believe what i'm hearing
[12:31] <alex-weej> bandit: "audiotestsrc ! alsasink"
[12:31] <jirihavelka> ehm, somebody who have C-media 8738 and will show me screenshot of some mixer setup (i don't know how to make microphone work and after some playinge with mixer i haven't output too :( )
[12:31] <TuTUx> hello everyone, is there any rc file for me to configure the orders of auto startup programs ?
[12:31] <Yodude> i wonder why Linux has only 3% market share
[12:31] <emun> I get an error concerning something called havp anytime I use synaptic to install any software, it prevents some files from being installed sometimes I get a message saying I should chmod havp. What is goig on please, help
[12:31] <Madpilot> Eclypse, let me find you a link, it's been ages since I've added keys manually for repos...
[12:31] <juanchito2006> Yodude: Take some WINE
[12:31] <Yodude> it seems to me much better than windows
[12:31] <alex-weej> bandit: with gst-launch-0.10 in front of it, sorry
[12:31] <Yodude> lol
[12:31] <bandit> oh okay
[12:31] <Eclypse> madpilot, lol
[12:32] <alex-weej> Yodude: network effect
[12:32] <Eclypse> madpilot, thanks
[12:32] <Yodude> what do you mean?
[12:32] <webmaren> danielmccauley: no, you would just upgrade through the update manager
[12:32] <alex-weej> Yodude: it's beneficial for most people to simply use what everyone else uses.
[12:32] <adaptr>  Yodude: "market share" is a nonsense term
[12:32] <ehm> help plz
[12:32] <nix_ferret> How would I add my ubuntu box to my workgroup?
[12:32] <bandit> alex-weej, still nothing
[12:32] <danielmccauley> webmarren:and it would do that automatically?? all updates to 6.06?
[12:32] <Yodude> ( i'm actually gonna buy a mac later) but i'm thinking about starting to ditch windows a bit right now
[12:32] <kck> Linux doesn't have billions of PR $$$ to brainwash society, nor will it ever I'd believe
[12:32] <alex-weej> bandit: run "alsamixer" (it's a console-based mixing application)
[12:32] <webmaren> danielmccauley: it should tell you that dapper is avaiable
[12:33] <IdleOne> Yodude, you can also run ubuntu on Mac
[12:33] <webmaren> danielmccauley: and ask if you want to upgrade
[12:33] <Yodude> GREAT!
[12:33] <alex-weej> bandit: and have a play around, sometimes some of the settings there may be hidden from other mixers by default
[12:33] <Motoko-chan> I'm having trouble getting WPA working with my Atheros card. Network Manager doesn't seem to find it.
[12:33] <DarthLappy> How can I check what's using a device?
[12:33] <Motoko-chan> And ideas?
[12:33] <Motoko-chan> Any
[12:33] <jirihavelka> ehm, somebody who have C-media 8738 and will show me screenshot of some mixer setup (i don't know how to make microphone work and after some playinge with mixer i haven't output too :( )
[12:33] <danielmccauley> webmarren: ok excellent, thanks
[12:33] <alex-weej> DarthLappy: fuser /dev/device
[12:33] <Madpilot> Eclypse, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[12:33] <Yodude> mac is based on Unix just like Linux
[12:33] <bandit> alex-weej, okay, thanks i'll look around
[12:33] <Yodude> they say it can run Unix Software
[12:33] <Madpilot> Eclypse, scroll down to the 'Managing Keys' section
[12:33] <DarthLappy> alex-weej: fuser, that's the one. Thanks :)
[12:33] <Eclypse> madpilot, do you have any idea why Edgy's network manager doesn't open with gksudo anymore?
[12:34] <alex-weej> bandit: sorry i can't really help more than that but it really does seem like it's a mixing problem
[12:34] <Yodude> that way many of Ubuntu Programs will work with my mc
[12:34] <adaptr> Yodude: Linux is not based on Unix
[12:34] <Eclypse> madpilot, it's like someone screwed up in the newiest programming or something
[12:34] <juanchito2006> Yodude: Not precisely
[12:34] <danielmccauley> webmarren: last question?  Even if i install Ubuntu 5.04 it will update correctly?
[12:34] <nix_ferret> I'm trying to mount a smb share from my winXP box b/c I'm getting the 'can not read from resource' bug error. Any tips?
[12:34] <Madpilot> Eclypse, no idea, I still don't run Edgy myself
[12:34] <adaptr> for random values of "Unix", anyway
[12:34] <Yodude> but Linus Torvalds did start it with UNIX code i read
[12:34] <juanchito2006> adaptr: Linux is based on Minix which is based on Unix
[12:34] <adaptr> juanchito2006: thanks for explaining what I didn't need
[12:34] <Motoko-chan> Linux isn't really based on Minix...
[12:34] <Eclypse> madpilot, smart move.
[12:35] <webmaren> danielmccauley: you will have to update to 5.10 first
[12:35] <webmaren> webmaren: then 6.06
[12:35] <DarthLappy> Hmm, well fuser doesn't say anything is using it... But umount still reports it as busy.
[12:35] <Eclypse> madpilot I'm considering moving back to dapper, since I find this quite ridiculous
[12:35] <adaptr> Yodude: sMackOS X *is* Unix - it's the darwin microkernel with smackos gui on top
[12:35] <Eclypse> madpilot, but I like Upstart . . . lol
[12:35] <emun> what is havp anybody
[12:35] <adaptr> Yodude: and in that sense, it is not "based" on Unix
[12:35] <flossgeek> GNU is not Unix it is a complete rewrite if the unix operating system
[12:35] <webmaren> danielmccauley: then 6.06
[12:35] <danielmccauley> webmarren: so approx how long should all the updates take? if im on broadband? I mean would it be quicker to just install 6.06?
[12:35] <webmaren> danielmccauley: and then 6.10 if you want
[12:35] <adaptr> flossgeek: erm.. except for the "operating system" part, that is
[12:36] <webmaren> danielmccauley: of course it would be quicker
[12:36] <Yodude> yes i meant in Kernel, but that's the core of the system so i assumed it is *based* on it
[12:36] <nix_ferret> dapper's gui was all messed up for me and feisty was hosed too, so I'm runnin edgy
[12:36] <webmaren> danielmccauley: even on broadband cycling up the updates would be 2-3hrs
[12:36] <danielmccauley> webmarren: i guess Ill finish d/l that and just install as a fresh copy
[12:36] <alex-weej> danielmccauley: straight installations are always preferred to upgrades
[12:36] <flossgeek> adaptr i agree if we want to bring in extra modules etc
[12:36] <Eclypse> madpilot, it gives me a could not connect error
[12:36] <jhaitas> feisty is running smooth for me
[12:36] <Madpilot> Eclypse, the URL I gave you does?
[12:36] <adaptr> Yodude: well.. read Linus's own istory of it if you're interested, but he threw out Minix's roots as soon as he was able to compile Gnu C
[12:36] <alex-weej> danielmccauley: sometimes upgrades miss steps (these are obviously just bugs) but you can avoid this by just installing the latest version from scratch
[12:37] <Yodude> the last obstacle standing in front of me downloading ubuntu is my connection
[12:37] <Eclypse> madpilot, the instructions.
[12:37] <KirillZ> Just fixed my problem, needed to edit out the commenting in /etc/apt/sources.list for Edgy Eft to have universe packages
[12:37] <adaptr> flossgeek: erm ? aren't you forgetting a teensy part ?
[12:37] <KirillZ> Thanks for the help everyone
[12:37] <Eclypse> madpilot gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 1135D466
[12:37] <danielmccauley> alex-weej: thanks
[12:37] <Eclypse> madpilot, that doesn't work.
[12:37] <nix_ferret> feisty was throwing a bunch of artifacts in the gui before install, so I decided not to chance it
[12:37] <Cald> is it possible to change the default system language selected at the installation plz ?
[12:37] <Yodude> i think i'll need to do a schedule for the download
[12:37] <Yodude> it's pretty hefty
[12:37] <flossgeek> adaptr:Kernel
[12:37] <adaptr> Yodude: I am guessing it's working fine with Windoze ;-)
[12:37] <adaptr> flossgeek: yeah, that bit
[12:37] <lemoniceblock> hi all, I have 0 burning experience and just wanted to check something about burning ubuntu
[12:37] <flossgeek> adaptr: I know
[12:37] <Yodude> yes much *finer* than you think
[12:38] <Madpilot> Eclypse, which repos' key is that?
[12:38] <Yodude> i hate that system to the bone
[12:38] <flossgeek> anywayz who needs some help
[12:38] <webmaren> lemoniceblock: ask away
[12:38] <lemoniceblock> thanx ^^
[12:38] <Yodude> lol
[12:38] <Eclypse> madpilot idk
[12:38] <Eclypse> madpilot it's on the page
[12:38] <lemoniceblock> I d/l'd ubuntu and it shows up as an rar icon
[12:38] <adaptr> flossgeek: why not make things simpler by stating insteas that GNU "implements a complete Unix-like OS"
[12:38] <Yodude> i've had some pretty obnoxious experiences with it
[12:38] <eztk> freeciv is quite addictive.. lol.. think ill have a game
[12:38] <Eclypse> madpilot; I'm really sick so it's kinda hard to concentrate on it.
[12:38] <lemoniceblock> I was wondering if I needed to unzip that before I burn it?
[12:38] <adaptr> flossgeek: which is even what RMS will say when asked
[12:38] <lemoniceblock> (I'm using nero)
[12:38] <webmaren> lemoniceblock, what OS did you d/l on
[12:38] <webmaren> ah
[12:38] <lemoniceblock> windows xp home
[12:38] <flossgeek> adaptr: couldnt agree more
[12:38] <nix_ferret> that's b/c rar associates itself with iso
[12:38] <MasterLexx> anybody here with an ubuntu wiki account?
[12:39] <Yodude> kept getting hacked, paying money for re-formats...
[12:39] <Madpilot> Eclypse, on the URL I gave you? Any keys on there will probably be for demonstration purposes
[12:39] <webmaren> lemoniceblock !burniso
[12:39] <lemoniceblock> !burniso
[12:39] <ubotu> To burn an ISO image of a CD in Linux, Mac OS or Windows, read the howto at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[12:39] <nix_ferret> just burn it w// nero or something
[12:39] <Eclypse> madpilot, lol, what key should I try then? :S
[12:39] <Everflex> damn, my ubuntu installation has become unstable lately
[12:39] <DarthLappy> How can I unmount a rogue DVD drive that is apparently busy?
[12:39] <webmaren> that should help more than I can
[12:39] <adaptr> flossgeek: nitpicking, perhaps - but some people can react quite the wrong way when you start talking about "rewriting" software :)
[12:39] <agent> how do you export svg in xara?
[12:39] <Madpilot> Eclypse, the various 3rd-party repos you've added should have their keys listed
[12:39] <lemoniceblock> thanx, I'll read it now :)
[12:39] <Yodude> i'm telling you windows is the worst piece of garbage this planet ever had lol... IT pros actually benefit form on the expense of the user's sake
[12:39] <webmaren> everflex: might I suggest backup+clean install
[12:40] <adaptr> Yodude: right after MS does, I think
[12:40] <flossgeek> adaptr:good point
[12:40] <Everflex> webmaren: backup, how? like a backup of the installed package list?
[12:40] <Eclypse> madpilot I don't see them anywhere
[12:40] <Yodude> they keep making you pay for repairs and stuff when you're actually able to live without them with another much better OS
[12:40] <webmaren> everflex: no
[12:40] <adaptr> Yodude: the 2nd biggest software market was even created specifically *for* and *on* windows.. can you guess what it is ?
[12:40] <Grackle> For some reason edgy isn't blanking my screen properly when in the console. It only darkens normal text, not stylized (boldface or colored) text. That's a bit odd, but I'd just as soon ignore it and not have the screen go blank at all. What do I need to do to stop the console from blanking?
[12:40] <Madpilot> Eclypse, automatix doesn't have it's repo keys listed on it's website somewhere?
[12:41] <Everflex> webmaren: how then?
[12:41] <Eclypse> madpilot, oh, lmao
[12:41] <Yodude> lol, garbage management software?
[12:41] <webmaren> everflex: like backup your /home/(you) and write down all the cool stuff you got
[12:41] <adaptr> flossgeek: I consider myself squarely in that category - "rewriting" sounds a lot like "stealing" to me...
[12:41] <Eclypse> madpilot sorry, not thinking very clearly . . . .
[12:41] <webmaren> everflex: so you can red/l it
[12:41] <adaptr> Yodude: sorry, no - it's "computer security software"
[12:41] <flossgeek> adaptr::
[12:41] <Madpilot> Eclypse, that and the wine repo keys, those are the ones I bet you'll need. Ubuntu should have all of it's own repo keys already for the official repos you use
[12:41] <Yodude> oh yea tell me about it, such a ripoff
[12:41] <braden__> hi there, what file do i edit if i need to edit the udev rules?
[12:41] <Everflex> webmaren: red/l, what's that?
[12:41] <alex-weej> !compiz
[12:41] <flossgeek> adaptr: No i imply it has been wrote from scratc with different code
[12:41] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:42] <adaptr> Yodude: really ? why is that ?
[12:42] <webmaren> redownload
[12:42] <adaptr> flossgeek: I know that's what *you* mean, no worries
[12:42] <Yodude> i told you adaptr i've had some pretty BAD experiences with windows
[12:42] <nix_ferret> would someone mind helping me out with my samba issue, please?
[12:42] <Motoko-chan> Any ideas on the network manager issue?
[12:42] <adaptr> flossgeek: try to read one of the many "Unix wars" stories floating around, to get a good idea of how nasty this can get - lawyers and all
[12:43] <Everflex> webmaren: what do you mean by red/l?
[12:43] <adaptr> Yodude: yes, but that's not very specific
[12:43] <Madpilot> Yodude, adaptr - for regular chat, including Windows war stories, please join #ubuntu-offtopic - we try and keep #ubuntu for support questions
[12:43] <adaptr> Everflex: re-download, as in : again
[12:43] <adaptr> Madpilot: sorry, shutting up already :)
[12:43] <flossgeek> adaptr: any url's?
[12:43] <Madpilot> adaptr, no need to shut up, just switch channels :)
[12:43] <webmaren> everflex: most of your software you downloaded, right
[12:43] <Yodude> what i mean is: security companies sometime make malware themselves just to impose the need for their products
[12:43] <adaptr> Madpilot: from your prespective, same thing
[12:44] <webmaren> everflex: redownload after you clean install
[12:44] <Yodude> i'm switching to the off-topic channel
[12:44] <Everflex> webmaren: i just didn't understand the acronym "red/l
[12:44] <Madpilot> adaptr, nah, I'm in -offtopic too
[12:44] <Yodude> c u there if u want
[12:44] <Motoko-chan> Madpilot, sadly, even support requests seem to get burried.
[12:44] <webmaren> everflex: sorry there
[12:44] <adaptr> flossgeek: well, Eric Raymond has most of it in his taoup and catb books... www.catb.org/esr
[12:44] <Everflex> webmaren: no probs, and thanks ;)
[12:44] <flossgeek> ok
[12:44] <Madpilot> Motoko-chan, this is a busy channel, so yeah, some things do get missed...
[12:44] <braden__> hi there, what file do i edit if i need to edit the udev rules?
[12:45] <Motoko-chan> I'm having trouble getting WPA working with my Atheros card. Network Manager doesn't seem to find it.
[12:45] <Motoko-chan> Any ideas?
[12:45] <Motoko-chan> (It is ath0 on the system)
[12:45] <adaptr> fsck mi - perhaps it's time to start #ubuntu-wireless ?
[12:45] <Eclypse> madpilot testing now . . .
[12:45] <webmaren> !ndiswrapper
[12:45] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:45] <Motoko-chan> The card is loaded just fine.
[12:45] <Motoko-chan> I just want to use WPA....
[12:46] <Eclypse> madpilot thank you
[12:46] <sillynewb> I can't get wireless to turn on in hp pavilion dv2125nr (toggling the button keeps the wireless light at amber, not blue)
[12:46] <adaptr> yes, and that's exactly what's most difficult on Linux ATM
[12:46] <braden__> hi there, what file do i edit if i need to edit the udev rules?
[12:46] <Madpilot> Eclypse, got apt working now?
[12:46] <recon> Is there an iPod shuffle guide lying around somewhere on the net?
[12:46] <Motoko-chan> ...
[12:46] <nix_ferret> Is there a 'workgroup' in ubuntu? Can I change it?
[12:46] <Yodude> hey btw i forgot one question: is the LiveCD itself also a source to install the system on the hardrive?
[12:46] <Eclypse> madpilot yep.
[12:46] <Madpilot> Motoko-chan, have you seen the !wireless URLs?
[12:46] <Eclypse> madpilot, the rest of this tweaking . . . well, it'll have to wait till I'm not sick.
[12:46] <Madpilot> Yodude, yes
[12:46] <webmaren> !WPA
[12:46] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:46] <adaptr> sillynewb: if there is a physical button to toggle you can bet that that's not directly supported under Linux - it will have an HP specific WIndoze driver
[12:46] <Motoko-chan> Madpilot, have been
[12:46] <Yodude> k thnx
[12:47] <seba> hi
[12:47] <Eclypse> madpilot, whoever invents a cure for the cold will be my new god.
[12:47] <Eclypse> lol
[12:47] <braden__> hi there, what file do i edit if i need to edit the udev rules?
[12:47] <adaptr> Yodude: of course - we wouldna leave you stranded with a taste for more and nothing to do about it...
[12:47] <Motoko-chan> Perhaps I should move from 6.06 to 6.10 which seems to like Atheros better...
[12:47] <Yodude> lol yes
[12:47] <webmaren> does WPA even work on Ubuntu
[12:47] <cafuego_> Eclypse: one bottle of cognac
[12:47] <adaptr> yes and maybe
[12:47] <cafuego_> webmaren: yes
[12:47] <Motoko-chan> webmaren, yes.
[12:47] <Motoko-chan> I had it working on a PrismGT card a while back
[12:47] <Madpilot> Yodude, when you run the LiveCD, there's a big "Install" icon on the desktop
[12:47] <Eclypse> cafuego_ cognac?
[12:47] <webmaren> okay
[12:48] <sillynewb> I want to buy a usb wireless card that is supported under linux; most important - supported under linux; second more important -- cheap ... suggestions?
[12:48] <Yodude> but i'm gonna stick with the LiveCD i'm glad i found out more about it, it's not my computer only so i'm not allowed to install another OS myself
[12:48] <cafuego_> Eclypse: yup, one whole bottle over the course of 3 days
[12:48] <Yodude> LiveCD is the perfect solution for me
[12:48] <recon> !ipod
[12:48] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[12:48] <Eclypse> cafuego_ I don't know what that is.
[12:48] <webmaren> sillynewb: look at the ndiswrapper website
[12:48] <Eclypse> lol
[12:48] <cafuego_> Eclypse: if it doesn't work, at least you'll have had fun
[12:48] <Yodude> and who needs update linux is very secure, along with firefox
[12:48] <webmaren> sillynewb: they have a list of compatible cards
[12:48] <IdleOne> !dualboot | Yodude
[12:48] <ubotu> Yodude: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[12:48] <seba> im having a problem with xubuntu,, i donwloaded the version for computers with low resources, but when i load the drivers for pcmcia the installer crashs
[12:49] <Yodude> i wish i could but i told you i'm not allowed
[12:49] <Yodude> but thnx a LOT guys i realy appreciate it
[12:49] <IdleOne> Yodude,  well let the other person play with ubuntu also and maybe she will let you :)
[12:49] <Yodude> you gave me the perfect solution to *dump* windows
[12:49] <braden__> hi there, how can I get ubuntu to mount my ipod into /media/ipod for use with gtkpod?
[12:49] <juanchito2006> seba: try the the #xubuntu room
[12:49] <webmaren> !iPod | braden__
[12:49] <ubotu> braden__: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[12:50] <Yodude> that's what i'm thinking about  lol
[12:50] <flossgeek> sillynewb: id go with an intel based wireless card
[12:50] <webmaren> Yodude: dumping windoze will be the best decision you ever make
[12:50] <n2diy> Anybody know of Monitor test pattern sw?
[12:50] <Yodude> thnx agin guys, i'm going Linux ;)
[12:50] <webmaren> yay
[12:50] <Yodude> i know
[12:50] <Yodude> though i told u can't delte that crapware cuz the PC's not tatally mine
[12:51] <seba> juanchito2006: only one person in xubuntu room
[12:51] <gRaCiOsO> how can i install a webcam ezonics uvt 8532 in ubuntu i tryied with easycam but it doesnt work
[12:51] <webmaren> :( poopy
[12:51] <Yodude> i hope one day people will be intelligent enough to know that windows is crap n that Mac and Unix n Linux OS's are better
[12:51] <vanberge> anybody in #ubuntu know how to fix beryl 1.4 - specifically the splash is not showing at start
[12:51] <webmaren> Yodude: and Mac OS X is now itself largely UNIX, anyways
[12:51] <adaptr> Yodude: not much to do with intelligence, just ease of use and circumstances
[12:52] <webmaren> adaptr: no, it is intel
[12:52] <Yodude> yes i know... when that day comes, i'm gonna be so Linuxed i'll be wearing pinguin shirts lol
[12:52] <josteinaj> hi. how do I open a program at a specific location on screen? I open gnome-terminal a lot and it always pops up at the top left corner of the screen, then I always drag it over to the top right corner of the screen. Can I make it always appear at the top right corner?
[12:52] <juanchito2006> !pcmcia | seba
[12:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pcmcia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:52] <juanchito2006> !xubuntu| seba
[12:52] <ubotu> seba: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[12:53] <flossgeek> sillynewb:http://linux.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ&sdn=linux&zu=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.ubuntu.com%2FHardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[12:53] <adaptr> vanberge: it's working fine here - which repo do you use ?
[12:53] <Yodude> i'm gonna show my new ubuntu to my friends, he's so into windows lol maybe he'll try it out
[12:53] <Yodude> he knows his way in tech he'll be using it easy
[12:53] <webmaren> josteinaj: it should default to the location it was the last ime you closed it
[12:53] <josteinaj> it doesnt
[12:53] <gRaCiOsO> how can i install a webcam ezonics uvt 8532 in ubuntu i tryied with easycam but it doesnt work?
[12:54] <vanberge> adaptr,   http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/ edgy main
[12:54] <gleaner> hi
[12:54] <Yodude> last question: anything to backup or it's secure to o?
[12:54] <adaptr> oh, edgy - sorry :(
[12:54] <Yodude> to go*
[12:54] <juanchito2006> Yodude: I do have a penguin pijama lol
[12:54] <gleaner> Im looking for a live ubuntu cd
[12:54] <adaptr> Yodude: unless you manually fsck your windows partitions, you're pretty safe
[12:54] <Yodude> lol lucky you
[12:54] <josteinaj> webmaren: the size seems to default to the last size - but not the position
[12:54] <adaptr> Yodude: when running the LiveCD, no risks period.
[12:54] <Yodude> now i told you NOT GONNA TOUCH A WINDOW
[12:54] <adaptr> gleaner: then download one ?
[12:55] <webmaren> josteina: well, it doesn't go to the corner when I open it
[12:55] <Yodude> not a single setting that can break windows
[12:55] <gleaner> whdont see a recent one
[12:55] <gleaner> is there a 6.10 live somewhere?
[12:55] <adaptr> gleaner: parse error, sorry
[12:55] <juanchito2006> gleaner: LiveCD is now Desktop CD
[12:55] <Yodude> afterall anything can break it :P
[12:55] <apokryphos> gleaner: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[12:55] <josteinaj> webmaren: not really the corner, but the "top left part" of the screen at least
[12:55] <webmaren> josteinaj: but ti does default to one location on the screen
[12:55] <adaptr> oh... of course, there are dozens of mirrors
[12:55] <neowolf> hello all, if i don't tell ubuntu edgy to format the windows partition, only an ext3 partition, will it obey me and leave the windows partition intact? i have had an ... unpleasent.. experience of ubuntu nullling an ntfs partition before
[12:55] <webmaren> josteinaj: taht's where mine goes
[12:55] <gleaner> so and desktop will run live or install?
[12:56] <webmaren> josteinaj: i don't think there is anything you can do
[12:56] <juanchito2006> gleaner: Both
[12:56] <gleaner> cool thanks
[12:56] <gleaner> just choose at boot time
[12:56] <josteinaj> webmaren: shouldn't there be some command like running "gnome-terminal -x 500 -y 300" or something?
[12:56] <flossgeek> neowolf: i always manually partition
[12:57] <gleaner> say btw any ubuntu users able to configure hotkeys to logout?
[12:57] <webmaren> gleaner: if you use the edgy CD, there should be something when you boot that says INSTALL
[12:57] <gleaner> seems broken in dropline
[12:57] <Jesse> Hello everyone, can anyone tell me how to burn ubuntu 6.10 using alcohol 120%?
[12:57] <bandit> alex-weej, it was indeed a mixing problem, somehow my 'PCM' channel got muted, i feel like an idiot
[12:57] <adaptr> Jesse: how could you manage NOT to  ?
[12:57] <Mathew> Does ubuntu run faster once its installed compared on the CD?
[12:57] <webmaren> josteinaj: there might be, but I don't know of it
[12:57] <gleaner> webmaren thanks
[12:57] <IdleOne> Mathew, yes
[12:57] <webmaren> Jesse: wtf?
[12:57] <flossgeek> Jese: Are you on windows at current
[12:58] <Jesse> yeah
[12:58] <josteinaj> webmaren: ok. thanks!
[12:58] <fabio> boa  noite
[12:58] <s1zzl3r> hello
[12:58] <webmaren> what is alcohol 120%?
[12:58] <adaptr> Mathew: how much faster depends on how much memory you have
[12:58] <flossgeek> Jesse: you have nero burner
[12:58] <Jesse> i just tried burning knnopix with it and it didnt work
[12:58] <Jesse> no
[12:58] <adaptr> webmaren: Windoze cd image burner
[12:58] <kck> Madpilot: absolutely yes, using the desktop cd is like having the hard drive run at the invariably-to-slow speed of your cd-rom
[12:58] <alex-weej> bandit: haha unlucky mate
[12:58] <alex-weej> bandit: well at least it's working now :)
[12:58] <webmaren> adapter: stupid windoze...
[12:58] <IdleOne> Jesse,  dont burn it as a data cd need to choose burn iso image
[12:58] <kck> once installed to the hard drive, it's *much* better to say the least
[12:58] <juanchito2006> Mathew: Yes it does, CDs are far slower than hard drives
[12:58] <adaptr> IdleOne: alcohol cannot burn data cd's....
[12:59] <alex-weej> bandit: if you want to enable more controls in GNOME Volume Control, you can do so in its "Preferences" panel
[12:59] <s1zzl3r> hey where do I put xmodmap -e command for automatic startup?
[12:59] <IdleOne> adaptr, didnt know that as i use gnomebaker or K3B
[12:59] <gleaner> any external cd/dvd burner users here?
[12:59] <flossgeek> Jesse: Download an image from this URL
[12:59] <adaptr> IdleOne: no worries
[12:59] <flossgeek> Jesse:http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download#currentrelease
[12:59] <IdleOne> adaptr,  :)
[01:00] <Jesse> flossgeek: im downloading ubuntu 6.10 now, its about %30 percent done
[01:00] <juanchito2006> Can somebody help me with a problem with my monitor?
[01:00] <adaptr> IdleOne: I used to use alcohol a lot, until I discovered dvd decrypter, which will burn absolutely ANYTHING.. just using alcohol for the viurtual DVD drive now
[01:00] <Mathew> My Installation always freezes at 20 to 28%  During Copying Files?
[01:00] <flossgeek> Jesse:Jeez you must have a fast connection
[01:00] <webmaren> hey, sidenote... have you ever smelled memorex cds after a burn
[01:00] <gleaner> yeah
[01:00] <adaptr> Mathew: have you tried to check your drive before installing ?
[01:01] <pr3d4t0r> un_operateur: /leave
[01:01] <webmaren> they smell weird
[01:01] <IdleOne> webmaren, lmfao no and why would you
[01:01] <juanchito2006> Mathew: Maybe the iSO filae you burned from was corrupt
[01:01] <webmaren> at least they did after my mac burned them
[01:01] <adaptr> or that
[01:01] <Jesse> flossgeek: no i dont (768k) ive been downloading for probably 30 mins
[01:01] <Mathew> i checked the CD but not the drive
[01:01] <juanchito2006> !md5sum
[01:01] <ubotu> To verify the integrity of a download, use the md5sum - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM for more
[01:01] <webmaren> idleone: it wafted over to my nose
[01:01] <webmaren> idleone: it was a particulalry strong smell
[01:01] <flossgeek> Jesse:ah, u going with edgy or dapper
[01:02] <IdleOne> webmaren, silent but deadly I guess
[01:02] <s1zzl3r> someone: hey where do I put xmodmap -e command for automatic startup?
[01:02] <webmaren> idleone: and they turn liek yellowish
[01:02] <webmaren> idleone: but only in my weird mac burner
[01:02] <flossgeek> s1zzl3r:System>Pref>Sessions
[01:03] <Jesse> flossgeek: i think dapper (thats ubuntu 6.10 right?)
[01:03] <hartsantler> i can't get my wireless working, using Edgy
[01:03] <adaptr> Jesse: almost
[01:03] <flossgeek> Jesse: edgy that is
[01:03] <juanchito2006> seba: Which computer are you using?
[01:03] <IdleOne> webmaren, I have had some issues with Mac's they never seem to last very long after I smash them :/
[01:03] <Jesse> flossgeek: oh ok
[01:03] <webmaren> idleone: ...
[01:03] <hartsantler> seems like my wireless hardware is detected, but when i enter in the sid, it won't connect
[01:03] <adaptr> IdleOne: I have these kind of issues with mice and keyboards... stranegly enough, it doesn't matter what kind of computer they're on
[01:03] <flossgeek> Jesse: Im running Edgy it;s not that bad
[01:04] <juanchito2006> Jesse: Edgy is 6.10 Dapper is 6.06
[01:04] <webmaren> idleone: i liked my mac, until my dad decided that as long as he could check his email on it, it was a good computer
[01:04] <seba> juanchito2006 is a penium mmx(133 mhz) with 32mb ram and pcmcia
[01:04] <IdleOne> adaptr,  I have also had issues with keyboards and monitors sadly
[01:04] <Jesse> juanshito: thx 4 telling me
[01:04] <juanchito2006> seba, any brand?
[01:04] <webmaren> idleone: lo and behold, I found myself on 333MHz in early 2006, banging my head on the keyboard as it froze appleworks after every third keystroke
[01:05] <seba> juanchito2006 ......?
[01:05] <Mathew> adaptr: so how do you check your CD drive
[01:05] <[richie] > hey guys
[01:05] <[richie] > i have a question
[01:05] <webmaren> idleone: and then I met my good friend ubuntu
[01:05] <juanchito2006> seba, is it branded?
[01:05] <adaptr> Mathew: not your CD drive.. your hard drive
[01:05] <Slart> !ask | [richie] 
[01:05] <ubotu> [richie] : Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:05] <[richie] > regarding the netgear WG55v2 wirless adapter made in chinda
[01:05] <[richie] > *china
[01:05] <s1zzl3r> System>Pref>Sessions no such in k-menu
[01:05] <Slart> yay.. it worked .. :D
[01:05] <seba> juanchito2006 spanish?
[01:05] <[richie] > any support for it yet?
[01:05] <tevfikt> hi
[01:05] <s1zzl3r> i'm using kde
[01:05] <webmaren> !wireles
[01:05] <webmaren> !wireless
[01:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wireles - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:05] <flossgeek> s1zzl3r: you running Kubuntu then
[01:05] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:06] <bandit> !ask
[01:06] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:06] <tevfikt> i have problem wireless connection on ubuntu
[01:06] <juanchito2006> seba, qu marca es?
[01:06] <noiesmo> s1zzl3r, in kde you can add scripts to ~/.kde/Autostart to run at logon
[01:06] <Jesse> flossgeek: im running windows XP right now, if i decided i liked it and wanted to install it, how would i go about installing it without effecting any of my windows data?
[01:06] <[richie] > thanks i check it out
[01:06] <bandit> !help
[01:06] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:06] <IdleOne> webmaren, found myself with a P2 133mhz and discovered ubuntu with xfce was nice to know that old machine could still be of use
[01:06] <webmaren> tevfikt: have you read the !wireless pages
[01:06] <Madpilot> ubotu, es | juanchito2006
[01:06] <ubotu> juanchito2006: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[01:06] <agent> !wifi > webmaren
[01:07] <webmaren> idleone: well, I built myself a 2Ghz
[01:07] <seba> juanchito2006 HP  Omnibook 2000
[01:07] <webmaren> agent: TY
[01:07] <agent> webmaren: you are welcome
[01:07] <tevfikt> webmaren:  i saw that pages but i still have problem
[01:07] <flossgeek> Jesse: Well i have done a few installs and not messed one up yet, but I don't know how competent you are so cant really advise, i always go for manual method.
[01:07] <webmaren> agent: i was being sarcastic
[01:07] <agent> webmaren: i was not
[01:08] <webmaren> agent: okay then
[01:08] <webmaren> agent: glad we cleared that up
[01:08] <flossgeek> jesse:You will be amazed at how easy it is to install, you should make an image of xp if anything does go wrong you can restore it
[01:08] <Jesse> flossgeek: what free software could i do that with?
[01:09] <webmaren> Jesse: there's a resize hda1 choice in the install
[01:09] <gleaner> anyone using an external cd/dvd burner on ubuntu ?
[01:09] <agent> gleaner: yes, works really nice :)
[01:09] <IdleOne> Jesse, throw caution to the wind, blindfold yourself and jump in the pool head first :) or do what flossgeek  said
[01:09] <flossgeek> Jesse: I think you would have to use something like norton ghost
[01:09] <gleaner> agent yeah can you send me your kernel config?
[01:10] <Jesse> idleone: i think i go with flossgeeks method because i have so important stuff that i cant afford to lose
[01:10] <agent> gleaner: no, because it's external so it won't make any difference :D
[01:10] <agent> gleaner: just enable usb
[01:10] <gleaner> hmm I wanna make sure I got the usb stuff correct
[01:10] <juanchito2006> I want to play stepmania, but i'm having trouble with my monitor after installing the ati driver, obliging me to return to the ubuntu diver
[01:10] <IdleOne> Jesse,  I was just kidding always best to backup important data first then install
[01:10] <gleaner> wont work for tunes under slack
[01:10] <dope> hey, is there a default guest account on ubuntu?
[01:10] <n-rated> How do you create a root account in kubuntu?
[01:10] <agent> gleaner: and you do not need to recompile your kernel for that...
[01:11] <apokryphos> n-rated: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[01:11] <agent> gleaner: it will not help you if i show you my config because different systems require differnt usb support
[01:11] <agent> gleaner: what you need to worry about is having the correct module loaded
[01:11] <apokryphos> dope: are you talking about the live session?
[01:11] <dope> yea i think
[01:11] <gleaner> yeah my point
[01:11] <agent> gleaner: lsmod :)
[01:11] <apokryphos> dope: username is 'ubuntu' I believe.
[01:12] <genben> hi all, is the us.archive.ubuntu.com down?
[01:12] <Sonic|Laptop> Is there a way to kill a gui process via a shell
[01:12] <dope> ok cool, thx
[01:12] <gleaner> modprobe -v
[01:12] <Jesse> flossgeek: is norton ghost a freeware app or would i have to purchase it?
[01:12] <rogue780> When I boot up my xubuntu computer, about 20% of the time I get a Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! message...can someone help me please?
[01:12] <IdleOne> genben, probably
[01:12] <apokryphos> Sonic|Laptop: type xkill, then click on the window
[01:12] <Sonic|Laptop> apokryphos, my monitor is 200 miles away
[01:12] <genben> IdleOne: why wouls you say probably? is this a regular occurence?
[01:12] <n-rated> apokryphos, thanks I not sure about anthing right now, I just got the iso for on a DVD that came with a mag
[01:12] <flossgeek> Jesse:Purchase, i dont think most is commercial software on win xp
[01:12] <duda> oi
[01:12] <apokryphos> Sonic|Laptop: then killall appname
[01:12] <Sonic|Laptop> I need to find the process idea for a gui processs
[01:12] <agent> gleaner:  these are the two main usb modules (that load everything else): uhci_hcd,ehci_hcd
[01:13] <duda> tudu bom?
[01:13] <Sonic|Laptop> apokryphos, I only want to kill one instance of it
[01:13] <agent> gleaner: one is usb1  and the other usb2
[01:13] <IdleOne> genben, not regular but occasional
[01:13] <Sonic|Laptop> Not both
[01:13] <adaptr> Sonic|Laptop: money, money is a good idea
[01:13] <flossgeek> Jesse most is commercial software on xp regarding image tools
[01:13] <apokryphos> Sonic|Laptop: kill -9 PID
[01:13] <genben> IdleOne: k
[01:13] <Sonic|Laptop> apokryphos, umm how do I get the pid :)
[01:13] <Nikolas> SonicvanaJr, ps ax | grep <process name> && kill <the first numer on the line>
[01:13] <adaptr> Sonic|Laptop: there is a program for that, called pidof
[01:13] <duda> oi
[01:13] <Sonic|Laptop> thanks
[01:13] <apokryphos> Sonic|Laptop: from ps aux|grep appname
[01:13] <flossgeek> Jesse: Not sure as I dont use windows xp for years now
[01:13] <IdleOne> genben, us repos are fine here
[01:13] <agent> gleaner: don't recompile your kernel, use the stock one as it has all modules compiled anyway
[01:13] <gleaner> agent my box is setup for both
[01:13] <lastent> does anyone knows how to list the ram memories i have installed?
[01:13] <adaptr> Jesse: Ghost is certainly not free.. never has been
[01:14] <juanchito2006> seba: what's exactly the error
[01:14] <adaptr> lastent: the physical banks, you mean ?
[01:14] <lastent> adaptr yes
[01:14] <gleaner> lastent ls -l /proc/kcore is one way
[01:14] <agent> gleaner: is your drive recognized by the kernel? use dmesg and lsusb
[01:14] <adaptr> lastent: reboot into your BIOS setup menu, and look....
[01:14] <IdleOne> Jesse, not saying that it's right to do but ghost can be found on torrent
[01:14] <adaptr> gleaner: not even funny
[01:14] <Jesse> does anyone here know of a windows XP image making tool, so i can back up my windows install?
[01:15] <seba> juanchito2006 it crashes when loads the pcmcia drivers,, the screen turns black
[01:15] <lastent> adaptr isn't there any command on Linux
[01:15] <Hansel> Jesse - that is a helluva question for a Linux channel.
[01:15] <gleaner> agent oh yes I can rip and burn everything but tunes...tunes  ripped from the ext generate hard errors
[01:15] <genben> IdleOne: i can ping au.archive.ubunto.com and now the us., but if i try apt-get update, i am getting a dns error, my box *should* be fine, was working other day
[01:15] <IdleOne> Jesse, you can make restore cd's with win xp
[01:15] <juanchito2006> seba: so there's no error code
[01:15] <adaptr> Jesse: there is one, yes - lemme see if I can remember, it even runs from within windows
[01:15] <agent> gleaner: what are "tunes"?
[01:15] <bruenig> genben, should be ubuntu not ubunto, if that wasn't a typo
[01:15] <mwe> Sonic|Laptop: kill 'procces id'
[01:15] <gleaner> lastent another way id  dmesg | grep -i mem
[01:15] <adaptr> lastent: you can check lshw, dunno if it's in there... or else use the Gnome device manager, perhaps it's there
[01:15] <Jesse> idleone: i know i can find any software app i want on bittorren i just wont, last time i did i seriously screwed up my sytem
[01:16] <seba> juanchito2006 exactly
[01:16] <gleaner> music cds
[01:16] <mwe> Sonic|Laptop: top or ps -e to find the id
[01:16] <IdleOne> Jesse,  yeah I hear you
[01:16] <genben> IdleOne: was a typo
[01:16] <adaptr> gleaner: none of which will get you info on *physical* modules
[01:16] <seba> juanchito2006 maybe the computer rans out of ram
[01:16] <IdleOne> genben,  working now?
[01:16] <Jesse> idleone:  im not gonna risk it on my 2k rig anymore
[01:17] <Sonic|Laptop> Hmm, now how to I start xchat gui from a shell...
[01:17] <gleaner> adaptr Im lost I was answering lastent
[01:17] <Hansel> ./xchat &&  <--- that will disconnect it from the xterm.
[01:17] <gleaner> he asked about memory in his machine
[01:17] <IdleOne> Jesse,  I have a messed up xp box next to me because of a torrent I should of known better then to install
[01:17] <Jesse> idleone: where do i make restore cds from in windows?
[01:17] <IdleOne> Jesse,  in accessories under start button
[01:17] <adaptr> Jesse: http://www.thefreecountry.com/utilities/backupandimage.shtml
[01:18] <lastent> thanks guys
[01:18] <rogue780> When I boot up my xubuntu computer, about 20% of the time I get a Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! message...can someone help me please?
[01:18] <Sonic|Laptop> Hansel, the thing is it doesn't start from a shell in the first space
[01:18] <Sonic|Laptop> place*
[01:18] <gleaner> welp downloads over caio!
[01:18] <wims> rythmbox should be able to play shoutcast radio right ?
[01:19] <genben> IdleOne: no
[01:19] <adaptr> Jesse: the one I remembered was DriveImage XML, but take a look at PING.. that may just be the ghost-killer I have been looking for
[01:19] <lemoniceblock> thanx for the help all j:)
[01:19] <geekender> Is shoutcast wmv?
[01:19] <adaptr> all  or most of them are based on partimage
[01:19] <nix_ferret> Anyone know what the syntax is to mount a smb share at boot time?
[01:19] <adaptr> geekender: nope
[01:19] <nix_ferret> Does it go in fstab?
[01:19] <adaptr> nix_ferret: certainly
[01:19] <IdleOne> genben,  not sure what it could be us.archives working from here
[01:19] <mwe> Sonic|Laptop: just type xchat to run xchat
[01:19] <nix_ferret> sweet
[01:20] <Sonic|Laptop> mwe, it won't start from a shell
[01:20] <Sonic|Laptop> complains about not being able to open a display
[01:20] <Jesse> adaptr: thanks ill think thatll work
[01:20] <nix_ferret> Do I have to do anything special since it will have to mount it as root?
[01:20] <adaptr> Jesse: good luck
[01:20] <mwe> Sonic|Laptop: you are not running x windows when you try to start it?
[01:20] <metguru> hey guys, how do i change a HD to not be read only???
[01:21] <adaptr> nix_ferret: not to mount it, no.. but to be able to write to them, yes
[01:21] <mwe> Sonic|Laptop: you have to. you can't run gui apps without an x server running
[01:21] <metguru> its not letting me in properties
[01:21] <Jesse> adaptr: thx ill need it with my computer compentency
[01:21] <metguru> but i don't know how in the root command line
[01:21] <adaptr> metguru: mount -o remount, rw /devicename
[01:21] <Sonic|Laptop> mwe, I just want to open xchat on my home computer as if I was home and clicked on the icon
[01:21] <Sonic|Laptop> I don't want to see it here
[01:21] <Sonic|Laptop> I just want to start it there
[01:21] <nix_ferret> ok, I'll check the magic 8 ball (google) for the how to
[01:21] <metguru> thanks
[01:21] <adaptr> metguru: ...or something like that ;-)
[01:22] <MarcN> What is the best tool to add id3 tag info to mp3 and ogg files?  I have a ton of mp3/ogg files (ripped myself, thank you) and my kid now has a player that displays those tags and now I want to fix them.
[01:22] <mwe> Sonic|Laptop: oh. you need to export $DISPLAY then. are you also logged in a the user running the x session?
[01:22] <adaptr> Sonic|Laptop: then you'll have to keep its session open regardless
[01:22] <noiesmo> MarcN, easytag
[01:22] <adaptr> or run it in an already-open session
[01:22] <geekender> MarcN: easytag
[01:23] <MarcN> geekender: , noiesmo thanks
[01:23] <Sonic|Laptop> mwe, yes I am
[01:23] <mwe> Sonic|Laptop: and as adaptr suggests you still need to have a running x session
[01:23] <Sonic|Laptop> I can't just simulate the clicking of teh button... lame
[01:23] <dave> anyone have any idea how to get a logitech quickcam messenger working ?
[01:23] <pucko-> is there any reason one should choose the vlc or mplayer plugin for mozilla? which one works best?
[01:23] <adaptr> Sonic|Laptop: there is no reason why you would want to, really
[01:23] <mwe> Sonic|Laptop: what are you talking about
[01:23] <MarcN> geekender: freecddb/musicbrains/etc support I hope
[01:23] <mwe> Sonic|Laptop: are you already logged in to X window locally or what?
[01:23] <Sonic|Laptop> adaptr, I like to have an irc client open for logging reasons
[01:23] <adaptr> pucko-: vlc is verra verra good
[01:23] <geekender> dave: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fubuntuforums.org%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D111225&ei=Er2RRZqlJpHWgwS-yej1Aw&usg=__MFW3M9tjiwDCwAWEZz65ZCWMwGA=&sig2=KcAoLdVdDmSysN81uOgpbg
[01:24] <geekender> sorry, will reenter
[01:24] <Sonic|Laptop> mwe, I'm sshed into my home box from the airport, I just want to restart xchat there since I closed it
[01:24] <crackcorn> howdy, what could i use to share my connection with my other computers. i want it to act as a router i guess
[01:24] <adaptr> Sonic|Laptop: be sure to check the channel policies first ! not every channel on freenode is "free"
[01:24] <geekender> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=111225
[01:24] <mwe> Sonic|Laptop: but is there any open x session running already?
[01:24] <nix_ferret> k, one last question: If my share name has spaces in it, how do I mount it?
[01:24] <nix_ferret> %20?
[01:25] <adaptr> nix_ferret: escape the spaces with backslashes, or put the whole share name in quotes
[01:25] <adaptr> nix_ferret: no, that is windoze-thinking :)
[01:25] <nix_ferret> haha, k, cool. Thx 4 the help
[01:25] <adaptr> long\ file\ name is the way to go in Linux
[01:25] <rogue780> I need to reinstall the kernel on xubuntu edgy...how do I go about doing that, and is it possible to do it over a network?
[01:25] <Sonic|Laptop> mwe, yes
[01:25] <mwe> Sonic|Laptop: DISPLAY=:0.0 xchat
[01:25] <mwe> Sonic|Laptop: that should work on a normal setup
[01:25] <MarcN> Sonic|Laptop: use dircproxy; it is a daemon that connects to irc on your behalf.  When you reconnect to dirc by xchat, it gives you what you missed.  handy.
[01:26] <adaptr> rogue780: if by "over a network" you mean remotely, sure... just be very sure it will boot when you have to load it :)
[01:26] <wims> is find -name case sensitive ?
[01:26] <adaptr> wims: yes, use -iname to ignore case
[01:26] <wims> thanks
[01:27] <metguru> when i used mount -o remount, rw /devicename it said i must use filesystem typ, i don't know where to put this in the command
[01:27] <adaptr> hey - speaking of irc.. is there any way to search for ubuntu-channel specifics on bash.org ?
[01:28] <Sonic|Laptop> mwe, thank you for your time and help
[01:28] <maddash> how can I *replace* my ubuntu-desktop w/xubuntu-desktop w/o slapping on too much bloat?
[01:28] <adaptr> not a lot of clueless adolescents here, but still.. might be funny
[01:28] <adaptr> maddash: if you intend to replace gnome you will *lose* bloat, obviously
[01:28] <genben> idaho45: seems that the us.archive.ubunto.com reolves to 2 x ip_addresses, which rotate, and one is currently down, so it fails
[01:28] <rogue780> adaptr: what do I have to do to reinstall the kernel? I think it got partially corrupted when  the computer lost power while grub was loading
[01:28] <genben> idaho45: sorry, not for you
[01:29] <genben> IdleOne: seems that the us.archive.ubunto.com reolves to 2 x ip_addresses, which rotate, and one is currently down, so it fails
[01:29] <maddash> adaptr: great. but when I try to install xubuntu-desktop from synaptic, it asks me to mark changes for numerous other packages as well...
[01:29] <Jesse> how do you burn images with dvd decrypter? I dont feel like going through alcohol 120% again
[01:29] <adaptr> rogue780: it very probably ha snot.. if you lost important parts of your modules then you would not be talking here now.. and if you lost your kernel your computer would not boot
[01:29] <adaptr> maddash: such as ?
[01:29] <rogue780> adaptr: this is a different computer...
[01:30] <adaptr> rogue780: okay, so it won't boot anymore ?
[01:30] <rogue780> it only boots about 20% of the time
[01:30] <maddash> adaptr: abiword,bogofilter,hpijs,...the list goes on, there's 81 packages in total
[01:30] <infidel> anyone have there ir port working?
[01:30] <adaptr> rogue780: easy, ubuntu is one step ahead of you... boot the rescue option in Grub and re-install your kernel
[01:30] <mwe> rogue780: if the kernel was corrupt it would boot 0% of the time
[01:30] <ed25> i've installed breezy and how do i updrage to edgy?
[01:30] <idlemind> rogue780: try running the memtest software
[01:31] <idlemind> rogue780: you might have corrupt system memory
[01:31] <adaptr> maddash: the easiest way to just get xfce is to mark all of the xfce packages but not the xubuntu metapackage
[01:31] <Riyonuk> Whats a good torrent client? Like everyone uses firefox for browsing, everyone uses " " for torrents..
[01:31] <rogue780> idlemind: i sure hope-not. I've spent my budget getting this mythtv network setup this month
[01:31] <ed25> Riyonuk,  i use azureus
[01:31] <mwe> can't you just sudo aptitude install xfce4?
[01:32] <adaptr> rogue780: luckily, both can be done from your current ubuntu boot menu
[01:32] <mwe> I think so
[01:32] <Riyonuk> is utorrent available?
[01:32] <adaptr> mwe: that's not as easy as you make it sound.. xfce is composed of a few dozen packages
[01:32] <ed25> i believe so, yes
[01:32] <mwe> adaptr: I know
[01:32] <ed25> there is a myspace group called "i dont do windows" that has a good list of apps
[01:32] <mwe> adaptr: it's a meta package providing the needed parts though
[01:32] <adaptr> Riyonuk: unfortunately not - I use nothing else on Windoze, as it utterly rocks :)
[01:32] <maddash> adaptr: I'm not trying to "just get xfce"...trying to kick out my gnome installation w/ xubuntu...and I expected to remove packages, not add more...
[01:33] <mwe> !info xfce4
[01:33] <ubotu> xfce4: meta-package for xfce4 dependencies. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.3.90.2 (edgy), package size 4 kB, installed size 48 kB
[01:33] <adaptr> mwe: well, if you're sure... but that won;t get you the required changes in system startup thatthe xubuntu package provides...
[01:33] <x-r00t-x> !eggdrop
[01:33] <ubotu> eggdrop: Advanced IRC Robot. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.6.17-3 (edgy), package size 459 kB, installed size 1144 kB
[01:33] <mwe> adaptr: what changes?
[01:33] <adaptr> maddash: I think abiword is standard on every *buntu
[01:33] <mwe> adaptr: you just install it then choose xfce at the login manager
[01:33] <bruenig> adaptr, just xubuntu
[01:33] <ed25> anyway, i cant find my current ubuntu disc so i put breezy on here, how do i get it to upgrade to edgy?
[01:33] <juanchito2006> Can somebody help me with a problem with my monitor?
[01:34] <adaptr> mwe: you have done this ?
[01:34] <mwe> adaptr: I've done it with fluxbox
[01:34] <bruenig> ed25, you would have to upgrade it to dapper and then again to edgy
[01:34] <ed25> ah ok, so how do i do that
[01:34] <mwe> adaptr: I believe all window managers provide an entry to gdm
[01:34] <adaptr> bruenig: then why is it installed by default on my dapper ?
[01:34] <bruenig> adaptr, it isn't default on ubuntu dapper
[01:34] <bruenig> adaptr, xubuntu dapper maybe
[01:35] <adaptr> bruenig: okay, must have been really drunk that time then :)
[01:35] <ed25> abi word is in the package manager
[01:35] <Riyonuk> aww I wanted uTorrent
[01:35] <Riyonuk> pssh
[01:35] <bruenig> Riyonuk, get it
[01:35] <maddash> bruenig: thanks
[01:35] <bruenig> Riyonuk, I am running it through wine, works great
[01:35] <Riyonuk> :o
[01:36] <Riyonuk> Im bored, can I see some desktops?
[01:36] <bruenig> hmmm, I am sure you can find some screenshots on the internet tubes
[01:37] <ed25> the tubes are clogged
[01:37] <Mnabil> how can i install nvidia drivers
[01:37] <adaptr> Riyonuk: are you running the latest beryl yet ?>
[01:37] <bruenig> well unfortunately they aren't like dump trucks
[01:37] <ed25> too many people downloading battlestar
[01:37] <bruenig> I am going to start my own internet that uses dumptrucks
[01:37] <ed25> yeah, dont make it opensource though
[01:37] <adaptr> bruenig: whatever became of the pigeons ? that seemed such a logical idea...
[01:37] <Riyonuk> Im browsing through the "Post your Desktop" thread
[01:37] <ed25> proprietary dumptrucks
[01:37] <Jesse> bruenig: if they were like dump trucks there would be hold ups as they go to refil
[01:38] <Riyonuk> umm
[01:38] <bruenig> pigeons carrying packets maybe
[01:38] <Riyonuk> whats a beryl?
[01:38] <ed25> but you could get big files faster
[01:38] <ed25> and just use the tubes for chat
[01:38] <drivera90> How do I handle .zip in Ubuntu?
[01:38] <juanchito2006> !nvidia:Mnabil
[01:38] <adaptr> bruenig: of course - you can't expect to put a whole mirror in a pigeon!
[01:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidia:Mnabil - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:38] <drivera90> !zip
[01:38] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[01:38] <juanchito2006> Mnabil: !nvidia
[01:38] <noiesmo> !envy | Mnabil
[01:38] <ubotu> Mnabil: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy
[01:39] <ed25> shouldnt this breezy auto upgrade or something
[01:39] <Riyonuk> adaptr, whats beryl?
[01:39] <adaptr> ed25: if it did, you would not be happy...
[01:39] <DarthLappy> Ack. I need to kill the UT2004 installer, but I don't know what to find it as in ps ...
[01:39] <bruenig> ed25, no it will upgrade packages but not the version
[01:39] <ed25> grrr
[01:39] <adaptr> Riyonuk: and you're complaining about being bored ?!? :)
[01:39] <anto> somone here that understands configuration files?
[01:39] <ed25> i need to invent the make upgrade button
[01:39] <Riyonuk> I am
[01:39] <bruenig> anto, depends which ones
[01:39] <Riyonuk> if I knew how to do stuff I wouldnt be bored
[01:39] <adaptr> Riyonuk: My desktop is amlmost bare, but I'm willing to bet that it rocks the socks off yours... squared!
[01:40] <Riyonuk> o rly?
[01:40] <Riyonuk> :D show me
[01:40] <mwe> Riyonuk: http://mikkelerup.homepage.dk/shot.png
[01:40] <Riyonuk> Mines the default
[01:40] <adaptr> Riyonuk: beryl is a 3-d window manager
[01:40] <bruenig> Riyonuk, here is my desktop, but I warn you, looking at it will only bore you more (very simple) http://s107.photobucket.com/albums/m290/bruenig/12182006.png
[01:40] <adaptr> !beryl | Riyonuk
[01:40] <ubotu> Riyonuk: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[01:40] <adaptr> that should keep him busy for a day or so...
[01:41] <Riyonuk> :o
[01:41] <dm_> Evening folks
[01:41] <Riyonuk> uTorrent
[01:41] <Riyonuk> it would sure be nice if the mikkelerup one would load >_>
[01:41] <ed25> ok so how do i upgrade this mofo
[01:41] <bruenig> !hi | dm_
[01:41] <ubotu> dm_: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:41] <anto> bruenig: well i'm trying to compile my Open tibia server and when i execute the configuration file i get a error lua headers are missing
[01:41] <mwe> Riyonuk: huh?
[01:41] <bruenig> !upgrade | ed25
[01:41] <Riyonuk> http://mikkelerup.homepage.dk/shot.png
[01:41] <ubotu> ed25: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:41] <Riyonuk> doesnt work
[01:41] <Riyonuk> oh
[01:41] <Riyonuk> now it works
[01:41] <bruenig> anto, no idea on open tibia config files
[01:42] <Riyonuk> its loading
[01:42] <mwe> Riyonuk: odd. works here
[01:42] <crackcorn> in ubuntu where does the kernel source get put, im trying to compile something but i need to target my kernel source
[01:42] <Hit3k> How would i return Gnome to its default state?
[01:42] <anto> bruenig: dosen't surpise me but do you know what causes the error ?
[01:42] <Hit3k> like Ubuntu Default state
[01:42] <noiesmo> crackcorn, should be /usr/src/
[01:42] <Riyonuk> so is this  beryl? http://wamrfixit.homeip.net:8000/edgy/screenshots/snapshot30.jpg
[01:42] <crackcorn> ah bummer, i guess i dont have it
[01:43] <mwe> Hit3k: delete ~/.gnome*
[01:43] <bruenig> !info lua5.1
[01:43] <bruenig> maybe it is that?
[01:43] <ubotu> lua5.1: Simple, extensible, embeddable programming language. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.1.1-2 (edgy), package size 118 kB, installed size 288 kB
[01:43] <X-NaMe> ciao
[01:43] <ali_> hello
[01:44] <mwe> Riyonuk: that one wont load here ;)
[01:44] <crackcorn> the driver im trying to compile came with ones for 2.2 and 2.4, think itll compile under 2.6.17?
[01:44] <adaptr> Riyonuk: yes indeedy.. but the 3d stuff is only the tip of the 'berg.. wait till you see your closed windows wobble and *burn* !
[01:44] <d00d> uptime[1d 17h 2m 8s] 
[01:44] <jengc0il> hi nolimitsoya
[01:44] <bruenig> adaptr, the burn works well on Ubuntu Satanic Edition
[01:44] <Riyonuk> adaptr, but thats stupid. Why would you want your desktop a cube looking thing
[01:44] <jengc0il> how to resume in wget command
[01:44] <jengc0il> !wget
[01:44] <ubotu> wget: retrieves files from the web. In component main, is standard. Version 1.10.2-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 226 kB, installed size 1952 kB
[01:44] <mwe> d00d: incredible ;)
[01:44] <adaptr> Riyonuk: that is not your desktop, it is how you *choose* your desktop
[01:45] <Madpilot> jengc0il, -R flag, I think it is
[01:45] <adaptr> bruenig: do you have a repo for that ? ;-)
[01:45] <ali_> hello
[01:45] <jmichaelx> has anyone else been having problems with USB storage devices in dapper? as of the last several days this machine will not mount any USB hard drives/jump drives/ipods, etc
[01:45] <bruenig> adaptr, it says it is in universe, have you enabled that or messed with your sources.list at all?
[01:45] <MarcN> hmm, freedb.org seems to be down.  Any cddb conforming sites to use instead?
[01:46] <Riyonuk> See, why cant I have something like this? http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/4673/screenshotsg4.png
[01:46] <Lunar_Lamp> You know those games that used to be around where it was just text saying things like "you are in a room, there is an angry bear and a table" - anyone know of one like that I can play on ubuntu? I haven't been able to find one,.
[01:46] <bruenig> Riyonuk, that is fluxbox
[01:46] <bruenig> fluxbox and conky basically
[01:46] <mwe> Riyonuk: you can. install fluxbox for starters
[01:46] <Riyonuk> But..
[01:46] <Riyonuk> ok
[01:47] <adaptr> bruenig: you're kidding me
[01:47] <Riyonuk> care to guide me through the process
[01:47] <bruenig> adaptr, sorry I mixed you up with anto
[01:47] <adaptr> Lunar_Lamp: there are gazillions of those - just search for MUD in synaptic or anywhere
[01:47] <Lunar_Lamp> adaptr, aha mud! I didn't know what they were called as a genre :-)
[01:47] <Riyonuk> Lunar_Lamp, a text game?
[01:48] <adaptr> bruenig: too bad, I'd like to have a Satanibuntu in the main repos....
[01:48] <bruenig> adaptr, go to the site, there is a script you run
[01:48] <bruenig> very nice
[01:48] <anto> bruenig: what :S?
[01:48] <anto> bruenig: you got any solution?
[01:49] <Lunar_Lamp> Riyonuk, yes. adaptr - wait - a MUD is multiplayer, i want a single player game :-/
[01:49] <adaptr> bruenig: what site ? BTW I want my next buntu to be Skanky Satan ;-)
[01:49] <bruenig> anto, well an apt-cache search lua, gives me lua5.1 which is a programming language
[01:49] <adaptr> Lunar_Lamp: then just install Adventure, it's the original
[01:49] <bruenig> http://parker1.co.uk/satanic/
[01:49] <adaptr> bruenig: thanks
[01:49] <bruenig> anto, maybe you need to install that
[01:49] <genben> with regsrd to locales on the system, what do you set them to? what you want to use or where the server actually is?
[01:49] <genben> regard*
[01:50] <mwe> Riyonuk: sudo aptitude install fluxbox && sudo aptitude install conky then log out and choose fluxbox at the login screen and start conky from within fluxbox. or just run conky in gnome. you might find fluxbox too simple depending on your expectations to a wm
[01:50] <bruenig> I like the santa hat, very confusing
[01:50] <drivera90> What command do I use to move something from one directory to another? Also, how do I create a new directory via terminal?
[01:50] <Riyonuk> wm?
[01:50] <mwe> drivera90: mv
[01:50] <idigital> hey i got an audio driver problem.. anyone have the link to solve it
[01:50] <mwe> drivera90: that will move
[01:50] <frederific> When I try and stream a video, through the firefox mplayer plugin, it buffers, then stops and won't play. How can I make it play? If I download the file, I can play it fine
[01:50] <mwe> drivera90: mkdir creates a dir
[01:50] <Trixsey> Hey, gnome-volume-control isn't working for me!
[01:50] <Trixsey> Any tips?
[01:50] <drivera90> mwe: Alright, thanks
[01:50] <genben> drivera90: mv /path/to/file /path/to/new/file
[01:51] <mwe> drivera90: you can also use mv to rename
[01:51] <Riyonuk> mwe, ill try that
[01:51] <bruenig> drivera90, mkdir creates a new directory
[01:51] <adaptr> mwe: I'd choose torsmo instead of conky though...
[01:52] <jmichaelx> frederific: i have had the same problem since upgrading to edgy on two desktops
[01:52] <bruenig> frederific, click the little arrow
[01:52] <adaptr> unless it was the other way arounbd ? I've used neither for some time now
[01:52] <mwe> adaptr: what's torsmo?
[01:53] <mwe> !info torsmo
[01:53] <juanchito2006> I need help
[01:53] <ubotu> Package torsmo does not exist in any distro I know
[01:53] <adaptr> !torsmo | mwe
[01:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about torsmo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:53] <frederific> bruenig: Thanks, I've already tried that; it flashes Buffering, [URL of video]  for 1/10 of a second, then jumps back to "Stopped"
[01:53] <mwe> adaptr: it said it doesn't know it
[01:53] <adaptr> sheez... lemme see
[01:53] <frederific> jmichaelx: Had any joy solving it?
[01:54] <adaptr> mwe: http://torsmo.sourceforge.net/
[01:54] <jmichaelx> frederific: i have tried about anything i could come up with... so far no luck at all
[01:54] <genben> drivera90: read this => http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/cli.html
[01:54] <adaptr> now that I think of it, conky is probably the more customizable
[01:54] <bruenig> conky is great
[01:54] <idigital> can somebody direct me to a webpage about audio driver
[01:55] <frederific> jmeichaelx: Grr, 'tis quite annoying.
[01:55] <genben> drivera90: CLI is a very good way to learn about your system, have a play, do some more searching and experiment
[01:55] <mwe> adaptr: I haven't heard of it before. they need to fix their homepage to get rid of the warnings though
[01:55] <adaptr> does anybody know if root-tail or root-portal work in beryl/xgl ?
[01:55] <slicky> anyone that can recomend me to upgrade to version 7.04 of ubuntu?
[01:55] <jmichaelx> frederific: i agree... i have not upgraded to edgy on this laptop for this very reason
[01:55] <adaptr> the last time I tried root-portal it destroyed my gnome-panel...
[01:56] <adaptr> slicky: if you can find it, go for it !
[01:56] <Aldoliel> slicky, why would you want to anyhow?
[01:56] <Trixsey> Hey, gnome-volume-control isn't working for me, any tips?
[01:56] <adaptr> slicky: or perhaps you should wait 5 months like the rest of us
[01:56] <Riyonuk> Fluxbox is rather...odd
[01:56] <Trixsey> Any way of getting that package? Re-installing or something
[01:56] <slicky> Aldoliel:  donno.. bugfixes?
[01:56] <slicky>  gksudo "update-manager -c -d"  <-- there it is
[01:56] <frederific> jmichaelx: Hmm, do you think it could be that firefox 2.0 isn't compatible with the plugin?
[01:56] <Aldoliel> slicky, On the prerelease version...?
[01:57] <Veganbabian> Anyone using EvilWM?
[01:57] <xabbott> slicky: it's not much different than edgy right now and is more likely to break things than to fix
[01:57] <carlos> did anybody get that compiz XGL desktop to work
[01:57] <jmichaelx> frederific: no, i have videos working fine in mepis using FF 2.0
[01:57] <metguru> arrgh
[01:57] <adaptr> carlos: beryl 0.1.4 and xgl, working like a charm
[01:57] <metguru> i still can't get the device to be writable
[01:57] <slicky> xabbott: okey.. then ill stay with 6.10 ;D
[01:57] <metguru> can someone help me
[01:57] <adaptr> metguru: this about a samba share ?
[01:57] <metguru> i have brwxrwxrwx 1 root disk 3, 1 2006-12-26 09:52 /dev/hda1
[01:58] <adaptr> oh
[01:58] <genben> Anyone using EvilWM ... do you mean windows?
[01:58] <carlos> ok thanks i will look into that one
[01:58] <dredhammer> +any news on if vlc  0.8.6 is available for Dapper? tried to back port it with prevu but no go
[01:58] <metguru> and i still can't write to the drive
[01:58] <cypruser> What can I do to make my HP Laserjet 1100 work in Edgy?
[01:58] <bruenig> !info vlc
[01:58] <adaptr> metguru: you should never have messed with the device node
[01:58] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB
[01:58] <frederific> jmichaelx: Very wierd. I'd report it as a bug, but mozilla-mplayer doesn't use malone.
[01:59] <metguru> i know, i can just change it back to the defaults
[01:59] <metguru> but it was just trying to change it to all access
[01:59] <drivera90> Where are things like Firefox installed?
[01:59] <drivera90> (By default)
[01:59] <PriceChild> /usr/bin
[01:59] <jmichaelx> frederific: i think everyone has this problem in edgy, so it has probably been reported.... i would love to know what to do about it
[01:59] <cypruser> What can I do to make my HP Laserjet 1100 work in Edgy?
[01:59] <PriceChild> !printing | cypruser
[01:59] <ubotu> cypruser: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[02:00] <bruenig> drivera90, well the libraries are in /usr/lib the launcher is in /usr/bin the icons and stuff /usr/share
[02:00] <cypruser> Thank you!
[02:00] <adaptr> metguru: you do that in .etc/fstab, nowhere else
[02:00] <metguru> what do you mean by that
[02:01] <Robinator> hi
[02:01] <metguru> ok, i changed it to brwxrw--w- 1 root disk 3, 1 2006-12-26 09:52 /dev/hda1
[02:01] <carlos> bye
[02:01] <adaptr> exactly what I wrote - you determine access to a mounted partition in /etc/fstab, and *nowhere* else
[02:01] <metguru> what do i do to that
[02:01] <Robinator> What is the correct way to enable "xmms" on ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to play  WMA files, please?  The  #
[02:01] <jmichaelx> has anyone else been having problems with USB storage devices in dapper? as of the last several days this machine will not mount any USB hard drives/jump drives/ipods, etc.. if anyone has a suggestion, i would appreciate it
[02:01] <PriceChild> !mp3 | Robinator
[02:01] <ubotu> Robinator: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:02] <red> i have wifi radar... how do i connect to any network? i see several networks but there is no connect button
[02:02] <metguru> i think i need to get the b off
[02:02] <Robinator> the #xmms support channel pointed me to the plugins page but there is none fitting my requirements
[02:02] <PriceChild> Robinator, first link, install w32codecs as instructed
[02:02] <metguru> so its not blocked
[02:02] <Robinator> PriceChild: w32codecs *are* installed
[02:02] <metguru> but idon't know how to do that
[02:02] <adaptr> metguru: that does not look right, it should be brw-rw---- root disk 3 1
[02:02] <PriceChild> Robinator, hmm ok.... have you checked synaptic for extra xmms packages, like xmms-plugins-restricted or something?
[02:03] <metguru> argh
[02:03] <red> i have wifi radar... how do i connect to any network? i see several networks but there is no connect button
[02:03] <Robinator> PriceChild: I use aptitude ... there is none with a meaningful name
[02:03] <Siph0n> what video player do most ppl use here? :)
[02:03] <mwe> red: it don't think it supports that
[02:03] <adaptr> metguru: chmod the device node to 660
[02:03] <metguru> you mean 660?
[02:03] <metguru> ok
[02:03] <bruenig> this is a musthave
[02:03] <bruenig> !info xmms-discotux
[02:03] <jvai_> <-- totem - xine
[02:03] <ubotu> Package xmms-discotux does not exist in any distro I know
[02:04] <metguru> so i mount it to /etc/fstab??
[02:04] <bruenig> !info xmms-wmdiscotux
[02:04] <ubotu> xmms-wmdiscotux: Tux dancing to the music played by xmms. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3-3 (edgy), package size 45 kB, installed size 196 kB
[02:04] <adaptr> metguru: then look in /etc/fstab for the line that mounts /dev/hda1 - what do you want to do with it, anyway ?
[02:04] <Riyonuk> how is he making it clear at the top? http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotxl3.png
[02:04] <Siph0n> i just used ogle, and it the video was jumpy, so i enabled dma, and it got better but the video was stille a little jumpy....
[02:04] <aresgunther> hey
[02:04] <adaptr> metguru: no... you *define* what you want to mount in fstab
[02:04] <metguru> im sorry im so stupid, im just new to linux
[02:04] <red> mwe: how to i use wifi radar to connect to networks then
[02:04] <adaptr> metguru: it's obvious, don't worry
[02:04] <metguru> haha
[02:04] <adaptr> metguru: start by explaining what you *want*
[02:04] <aresgunther> how come when I lookup my usrname, it has my real name in the e-mail address?
[02:04] <Stonekeeper> Hi. Anyone setup a room full of ubuntu workstations? I'm looking to integrate a load into a windows xp network.
[02:05] <metguru> i want read and write permissions to hda1
[02:05] <Stonekeeper> looking for some tips
[02:05] <metguru> i can't even download to hda1
[02:05] <adaptr> if /dev/hda1 is your system partition then you DO NOT want to mess with it until you have a few years of Linux experience
[02:05] <adaptr> what *is* hda1 ? a Windoze partition ?
[02:05] <metguru> no, i installed 2 partitions, lol, im not stupid, just stupid with linux
[02:05] <mwe> red: I'm not sure. haven't used it for a long time ...
[02:05] <adaptr> if so, you can't reliably write to it
[02:06] <metguru> its a second empty partition
[02:06] <mwe> red: it is supposed to be able to connect to a network somehow though. I know that much
[02:06] <adaptr> metguru: information please.. formatted as what ?
[02:06] <metguru> ext3, NOT NTFS
[02:06] <metguru> sorry
[02:06] <adaptr> metguru: okay, so it is formatted ? where do you want to mount it ?
[02:06] <red> mwe: ok
[02:07] <mwe> you can write reliably to ntfs from linux using ntfs-3g
[02:07] <red> anyone knows how i can connect to a wireless network using wifi radar? there is no connect button!
[02:07] <adaptr>  /mnt/hda1 is logical and easy to remember.. but anything will do as long as you don't overwrite an existing directory
[02:07] <metguru> its mounted already to /dev/hda1
[02:07] <anto> Mwe: greate i need help again :P
[02:07] <mwe> anto: shoot
[02:07] <cypruser> Ok, I set up my HP LaserJet 1100. But, it won't print.
[02:07] <adaptr> metguru: nooo.. that is the *device*.. if you try to write to that you  WILL destroy all your data on it
[02:08] <lifepositive> hi
[02:08] <anto> mwe: i have got all the lua dev packages installed. but i stilk get the error "lua headers are missing"
[02:08] <lifepositive> how can I play flv files when I get this error from mplayer: [flv @ 0x85f5200] Unsupported video codec (4)
[02:08] <anto> is it possible that it dosen't know where the packages are installed?
[02:08] <adaptr> metguru: please open up /etc/fstab in a text editor, or use the system disk utility to see what's what
[02:08] <mwe> anto: oh. just that, no better messages?
[02:09] <red> anyone knows how i can connect to a wireless network using wifi radar? there is no connect button!
[02:09] <lifepositive> !flv
[02:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:09] <mwe> anto: like what files in particular it can't find?
[02:09] <anto> mwe: nopp i fixed like 4 other errors.
[02:09] <mwe> hmm
[02:09] <anto> :S
[02:09] <metguru> ok
[02:10] <jmichaelx> has anyone else been having problems with USB storage devices in dapper? as of the last several days this machine will not mount any USB hard drives/jump drives/ipods, etc.. if anyone has a suggestion, i would appreciate it
[02:10] <mwe> anto: I'm afraid I can't be of much help then. You'd have to go over the source code and try to figure where it fails and what is missing
[02:10] <metguru> what do i do in there
[02:10] <metguru> it says [read only in the title bar] 
[02:10] <metguru> [read only] *
[02:11] <mwe> jmichaelx: first thing that pops into my mind is modules not being loaded
[02:11] <adaptr> metguru: that is correct - you have to have root permissions to write it
[02:11] <Flarex> Is a cable modem that has both ethernet and usb ports considered a "USB ADSL Modem" if I'm only using the usb cable part of it? And how would I find which one is the one I'm using?  On the help.ubuntu.com webpage it says " Depending on the driver you found in the list of USB ADSL modems, consult one of the following guides.." but I don' have access to the list.
[02:11] <cypruser> Ok, I set up my HP LaserJet 1100. But, it won't print.
[02:11] <metguru> do i have to do that sudo in the command line
[02:11] <jmichaelx> mwe: hmmm. i had no problems with this until a few days ago
[02:12] <adaptr> metguru: just go to System -> administration -> Disks and check the partitions tab for your hard drive(s)
[02:12] <mwe> jmichaelx: did you upgrade the kernel maybe?
[02:12] <red> anyone knows how i can connect to a wireless network using wifi radar? there is no connect button!
[02:12] <jmichaelx> mwe: no
[02:12] <documan> can I build via GUI my own linux distro? to take some elements of various distros and build my own?
[02:12] <documan> can I build via GUI my own linux distro? to take some elements of various distros and build my own?
[02:12] <mwe> jmichaelx: so nothing changed?
[02:12] <metguru> there is no disks
[02:13] <adaptr> metguru: are you using Ubuntu ?
[02:13] <metguru> yea
[02:13] <jmichaelx> mwe: nothing that i know of, other than running apt-get update and upgrade
[02:13] <metguru> do i have to change the menu contents or something?
[02:13] <nix_ferret> I'd also like to do this. I'm usin gubuntu
[02:13] <nix_ferret> *ubuntu
[02:13] <mwe> jmichaelx: that could very well have upgraded the kernel
[02:14] <jmichaelx> mwe: i don't think there have been updates to the kernel in the last few weeks.... could be mistaken, though
[02:14] <xyz> how can i make this giam chat, tell me when a massage was posted
[02:14] <adaptr> metguru: I wouldn't know, but I'm using dapper, and you're probably using edgy
[02:14] <jmichaelx> upgrades*
[02:14] <adaptr> metguru: they have changed some bits around
[02:15] <mwe> jmichaelx: I don't know then. I'd check if the usb modules were loaded
[02:15] <trilingualkid> Hi. I need help with keyboard shortcuts. To launch the help browser, I need to press
[02:15] <metguru> yea, thats what im usin
[02:15] <trilingualkid> oxf5. what does that mean?
[02:15] <adaptr> metguru: in that case, yes - just open a terminal (or press alt-F2) and enter: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[02:15] <jmichaelx> mwe: ok, ill keep looking around
[02:15] <trilingualkid> Hi. I need help with keyboard shortcuts. To launch the help browser, I need to press 0xf5. what does that mean?
[02:15] <jvai_> xyz, when that happens, it'll be posted red, when so
[02:15] <mwe> jmichaelx: lsmod and see if the usb modules are listed
[02:15] <adaptr> metguru: for the alt-f2 option, you probably have to use gksudo instead, but the principle is the same
[02:16] <trilingualkid> Hello? Is there anyone here that can help me?
[02:16] <trilingualkid> Hello? Is there anyone her that can help me?
[02:16] <aboutblank> how do you set LD_FLAGS? rather, how do i access environment variables like LD_FLAGS?
[02:16] <genben> can you actually upgrade from ubuntu dapper to edgy eft from within the o/s or do you have to reinstall?
[02:16] <frederific> trilingualkid: I think its F1
[02:17] <metguru> ok
[02:17] <trilingualkid> Hi. I need help with keyboard shortcuts. To launch the help browser, I need to press 0xf5. what does that mean?
[02:17] <jmichaelx> mwe: no, they do not seem to appear on the list. how weird...
[02:17] <metguru> im in fstab and it doesn't say read only
[02:17] <metguru> lol
[02:17] <trilingualkid> frederific: what do u mean?
[02:17] <Neilp> Can someone let me know if ubuntu supports the wireless card in this laptop http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Compaq-Presario-15-4-Widescreen-Notebook-PC-C306US/sem/rpsm/oid/160283/catOid/-12963/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do
[02:17] <metguru> im laughing at my own ignorance
[02:17] <trilingualkid> thanx bye
[02:17] <jmichaelx> mwe: i do have 'usbhid'
[02:18] <mwe> jmichaelx: load them and see if it works though. I don't know why they are not getting loaded. if it fixes it add the names to /etc/modules to autoload them at boot
[02:18] <cody> Hello, Can someone help me with get my wired/wireless working?
[02:18] <x-r00t-x> where do i get eggdrop-1.6.18-4 deb package?
[02:18] <mwe> jmichaelx: that's for mice and so
[02:18] <frederific> trilingualkid: to launch the help browser, you need to press F1
[02:18] <jmichaelx> mwe: how do i load them? modprobe usb?
[02:18] <jmichaelx> o ok
[02:18] <metguru> arrgh, something looks wrong here
[02:18] <`rich> frederific, he waited for all of a minute and left :)
[02:19] <mwe> jmichaelx: I think you need at least ehci-hcd and uhci-hcd
[02:19] <lastent> hi does anyone knows if there is any away to see this page on firefox/ubuntu www.mtc,gob.pe
[02:19] <metguru> the mount point on /dev/hda2 is /media/hda1 ... is this how its supposed to be
[02:19] <con-man> lastent: take the comma out?
[02:19] <jmichaelx> mwe: ok, i found those, they are there under usbcore
[02:19] <lastent> hi does anyone knows if there is any away to see this page on firefox/ubuntu www.mtc.gob.pe
[02:19] <frederific> `rich: that's annoying, thanks for telling me
[02:20] <jmichaelx> sorry, i had missed  that
[02:20] <mwe> jmichaelx: modprobe -l|grep usb
[02:20] <adaptr> metguru: that depends... which one is Ubuntu on ? i.e. which line has "/" as mount point ?
[02:20] <frederific> jmichaelx: I've kind of solved the mozilla-mplayer thing
[02:20] <mwe> jmichaelx: that could help you determine the names
[02:20] <metguru> hda1
[02:20] <`rich> frederific, he's been in and out asking single questions all day. not sure he realises he can keep irc open.
[02:20] <mwe> jmichaelx: usb-storage is probably essential
[02:20] <cody> Hi, is there anyone that can help me with get my internet connection up and running?
[02:20] <anto> mwe:i know where the error apers but i don't understnad what imeans?
[02:20] <frederific> `rich: ah well, thanks for telling me
[02:20] <jmichaelx> frederific: i would be glad to know what you found
[02:20] <Flarex> is being hooked up to a cable modem through a usb cable the same as a usb adsl modem?
[02:20] <`rich> cody, what's going wrong?
[02:21] <neuromancer> irc.brasnet.org
[02:21] <cody> `rich: just about everything
[02:21] <metguru> the one im actually trying to access is the second drive, hda2
[02:21] <nix_ferret> Anyone use cifs over smbfs in ubuntu?
[02:21] <mwe> anto: explaing
[02:21] <mwe> anto: explain*
[02:21] <cody> `rich, I tried to get my wireless working, and in the process i managed to disable my wired connection as well
[02:21] <`rich> Nice
[02:21] <metguru> but its mounted as hda1 i think...thats what it comes up as in the desktop
[02:21] <ephemeros> IMPORTANT QUESTION: i observed when booting in recovery mode (edgy here) it logs me automatically on root. wtf, this means anyone knowing command line could mess up my stuff as an administrator?
[02:22] <adaptr> metguru: well, since /media/hda1 is just a directory *name*, nothing much will go wrong
[02:22] <`rich> sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[02:22] <`rich> to make sure the adapter is up
[02:22] <bandit> ephemeros, that is correct, u can put a password on grub tho
[02:22] <anto> mwe: in i opend the configure file in text reader and search for lua headers missing but i don't know what the test is to find it
[02:22] <Rprp> hmm, just a second ago i did iptables -P INPUT DROP :/ but no, all ports are closed....... how can i connect to ssh?!?!?!
[02:22] <mwe> jmichaelx: try modprobe usb-storage and see if it's sufficient
[02:22] <adaptr> metguru: possibly... you will want to re-do that yourself as something like /media/data, or /mnt/data
[02:22] <frederific> jmichaelx: If you add noembed=1 to ~/.mplayer/mplayerplug-in.conf (create it if needs be), the stream will play (well it does for me), in a seperate mplayer window
[02:22] <ephemeros> bandit: thanx, i immagined that, i wanted to be sure
[02:22] <metguru> and can i use the unused space on hda1?
[02:22] <mwe> anto: you have to work harder then ;)
[02:22] <adaptr> metguru: can you post the line that mounts it ?
[02:22] <metguru> no it doesn't matter to me
[02:23] <cody> `rich, ok, now i feel like an idiot
[02:23] <adaptr> metguru: you ARE using it - that is where your system is
[02:23] <Rprp> hmm, just a second ago i did iptables -P INPUT DROP :/ but no, all ports are closed....... how can i connect to ssh?!?!?!
[02:23] <`rich> cody, lol, happens to the best of us.
[02:23] <jmichaelx> frederific: ty, i will try that
[02:23] <cody> `rich, but I could still use some help with wireless...
[02:23] <anto> mwe:been working the last 24 hours on this.
[02:23] <frederific> jmichaelx: np
[02:23] <metguru> but it doesn't show up on the desktop..sorry
[02:23] <mwe> anto: oh.
[02:23] <jmichaelx> mwe: usb-storage is there
[02:23] <jmichaelx> hmmm
[02:23] <documan> can I install linux in a partition while I am logged in winxp? (like I do with winxp apps)
[02:23] <mwe> jmichaelx: loaded already?
[02:24] <steven> ok, my commandline is doing something really weird.... it now says.steven@(none):~$  when it should say steven@(kritter):~$
[02:24] <metguru> whats the 'line that mounts it'? is that # /dev/hda2
[02:24] <metguru> UUID=137e8bbe-1a3b-4467-ac4a-20fefe11738c /media/hda1     ext3    defaults        0       2
[02:24] <steven> a things have suddenly broke.
[02:24] <jmichaelx> mwe: well, i guess so, i listed it with the command you gave me as being in /lib/modules
[02:25] <mwe> jmichaelx: that means it's on the system. lsmod tells you what is currently loaded
[02:25] <adaptr> metguru: yes.. and you can write to it just fine, as long as you use the right directory
[02:25] <jmichaelx> ahhh
[02:25] <mwe> jmichaelx: the modprobe -l tells you what's available
[02:25] <jmichaelx> mwe: so i could do modprobe usb-storage?
[02:26] <mwe> jmichaelx: sudo modprobe usb-storage, right
[02:26] <metguru> what is 'the right directory'?
[02:26] <mwe> jmichaelx: what are you trying to mount, specifically?
[02:26] <steven> I am very disappointed with Edgy... Bummer..... switching back to debian...  After breezy, this distro has sucked!
[02:26] <metguru> and now how do i change it so at least my group can access the hda2
[02:26] <jmichaelx> mwe: a jumpdrive and an ipod.... neither will work
[02:27] <Siph0n> in VLC, when u go to file->open disc, is there suppose to be anything under "Device Name"?
[02:28] <mwe> jmichaelx: ipod, that works like standard usb mass-storage, doesn't it?
[02:28] <trev_> does anyone know of a gui for creating virtual drives in ubuntu?
[02:28] <factboy818181> anyone know why sound works on starcraft's splash screen, but not when you actually play it via wine?
[02:28] <pucko-> hello. I just tried to hibernate my computer, but it locked up instead. and now after I rebooted I can't log in to X any more. no error messages from X or anything. what could it be? (something wrong with permissions?)
[02:28] <trev_> factboy818181:it works fine for me
[02:28] <Robinator> hi
[02:28] <jmichaelx> mwe: i think so... i have been using this ipod as an external HD on this machine for a long time
[02:28] <trev_> factboy818181:what version of ubuntu are you running?
[02:28] <factboy818181> trev_: for some reason, i get no sound at all - in the menu where it says Play Starcraft, there's sound, but not when you actually go into the game and play
[02:29] <factboy818181> trev_: edgy
[02:29] <trev_> factboy818181:and what version of wine are you using?
[02:29] <lixu> Hi. why is figlet part of the multiverse repository?
[02:29] <cypruser> Help! I can't shut down Ubuntu!
[02:29] <mwe> jmichaelx: can it mount now that usb-storage is loaded?
[02:29] <lixu> cpruser: sudo halt
[02:29] <metguru> sorry, not just access, but write to it
[02:29] <factboy818181> trev_: 0.9.27 i think or whatever latest version is
[02:29] <lixu> cypruser: sudo halt
[02:29] <init6> tooooo many users in one chan :P
[02:29] <jmichaelx> mwe: i will let you know in a sec
[02:30] <Riyonuk> How do I exit conky?
[02:30] <`rich> killall -9 conky
[02:30] <trev_> factboy818181: i am also running 0.9.27 and it works perfectly for me except for battle.net, I have done a fair bit of research in getting starcraft to run on 6.06 before I upgraded and never once found your issue
[02:30] <michelp> greetings!  I am currently running on my new (used, craigslist) AMD64 Athlon X2 dual core machine with Edgy.  It works great, nvidia drivers, all that, really fast, but I only seem to see one CPU in /proc/cpuinfo.  this is my first dual core machine that I've set up, is there some option I need to set to enable both cores?
[02:31] <cypruser> The terminal won't start.
[02:31] <red> anyone knows how i can connect to a wireless network using wifi radar? there is no connect button!
[02:31] <factboy818181> trev_: probably my sound card then
[02:31] <lifepositive> whats the new dual core CPU thats out?
[02:31] <lifepositive> anyone know?
[02:31] <trev_> let me check quick
[02:31] <arrenlex> michelp: Install the -generic kernel.
[02:31] <lifepositive> trev_: ok tyt
[02:31] <red> michelp: try botting using generic kernel
[02:31] <red> anyone knows how i can connect to a wireless network using wifi radar? there is no connect button!
[02:31] <michelp> will do thanks!
[02:31] <lixu> michelp: do you use the SMP kernel?
[02:31] <michelp> didn't realize it was a diff kernel but that makes total sense
[02:31] <factboy818181> trev_: by the way i get - ALSA lib seq_hw.c:457:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory when opening winecfg
[02:31] <Riyonuk> `rich, it says "conky: no process killed"
[02:31] <michelp> i'll search for it in senaptic thank you
[02:32] <trev_> factboy818181:the same thing happens to me I think
[02:32] <cypruser> The terminal won't start.
[02:32] <jmichaelx> mwe: no, it will not work :-(
[02:32] <`rich> Riyonuk, that's ... odd. it's definitely running?
[02:32] <Riyonuk> oh
[02:32] <Riyonuk> no more
[02:32] <Riyonuk> :)
[02:32] <michelp> currently running updates so I have to wait :)
[02:32] <Riyonuk> How do I uninstall
[02:32] <Riyonuk> it
[02:32] <factboy818181> trev_: interesting, i tried disabling ESD and everything to no success... i even got bnet to work once or twice, but now it died on me.
[02:32] <red> how do i connect to a wireless network using wifi radar?????????????????????
[02:32] <`rich> Did you install via apt?
[02:33] <trev_> factboy818181:will it play without sound
[02:33] <`rich> !repeat
[02:33] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:33] <lifepositive> whats the new dual core CPU thats out?
[02:33] <lifepositive> !repeat
[02:33] <Riyonuk> I think
[02:33] <factboy818181> trev_: yep, it just doesn't feel as good though
[02:33] <`rich> try apt-get remove conky
[02:33] <`rich> er with sudo in front :)
[02:33] <trev_> factboy818181: on mine it ate cpu but it ran without any lag
[02:33] <red> how do i connect to a wireless network?
[02:33] <cypruser> !patience
[02:33] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:33] <mwe> jmichaelx: hmm
[02:33] <`rich> red, using iwconfig, set the correct key and essid, then it should connect.
[02:34] <Riyonuk> and how would I know its still there? its not like its listed or anything...
[02:34] <metguru> adaptr: how do i set it to be writable?
[02:34] <factboy818181> trev_: wish it could work with sound though, that'd be gerat
[02:34] <trev_> factboy818181:found something......
[02:34] <mwe> jmichaelx: you probably need to load some other modules if missing modules is even the culprit
[02:34] <red> ok let me try
[02:34] <mwe> jmichaelx: gotta go ...
[02:34] <gorbulas> hi
[02:34] <adaptr> metguru: it *is* writable
[02:34] <arrenlex> I want to use my Linux machine to make a phone menu. You know, "press 1 to...". I don't know where to even start looking. Does anyone have any idea?
[02:34] <trev_> factboy818181:check this out, mabey someone will reply to it http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=322082&highlight=starcraft
[02:35] <cypruser> !patience
[02:35] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:35] <tonyyarusso> arrenlex: I know "Asterisk" is used for phone stuff.  Don't know anything about it beyond that.
[02:35] <metguru> but only in root
[02:35] <`rich> arrenlex, off the top of my head, google for asterisk
[02:35] <michelp> arrenlex: ekiga softphone
[02:35] <trev_> factboy818181:in 2 weeks of troubleshooting starcraft nothing else came up
[02:35] <michelp> arrenlex: ekiga.org I belive
[02:35] <jmichaelx> does anyone know if there are issues with broadcom wireless adapters in edgy, or do they work well?
[02:35] <Siph0n> red: i just got wifi radar, and i see the connect button towards the right... under New Edit and Delete
[02:35] <adaptr> metguru: not so, but you can easily check this when you do ls -la /media/hda1
[02:35] <michelp> jmichaelx: you may need ndiswrapper
[02:36] <`rich> jmichaelx, broadcom is pretty much straight from the devil's ballsack when it comes to wireless networking and linux.
[02:36] <adaptr> metguru: the current directory should be rwxrwxrwx
[02:36] <idigital> anyone know xgl?
[02:36] <arrenlex> Okay, and what happens if I want to be able to run commands using a phone menu? Press 1 to change directory, press 2 to run firefox, press 3 to cat file... Is that possible?
[02:36] <jmichaelx> michelp: wel, i have this adapter working well in dapper..... i just dont want to upgrade to edgy and be stranded
[02:36] <Siph0n> arrenlex: there is stuff in System->Preferences->Key Shortcuts
[02:37] <metguru> it gave me drwxr-xr-x 3 root root  4096 2006-12-25 06:43 .
[02:37] <metguru> drwxr-xr-x 6 root root  4096 2006-12-26 19:36 ..
[02:37] <metguru> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 49152 2006-12-25 06:43 lost+found
[02:37] <`rich> Siph0n, he wants to do it via a phone
[02:37] <factboy818181> trev_: keeps on telling me /dev/snd/seq does not exist
[02:37] <Siph0n> lol oh... wow nice
[02:37] <Siph0n> thought that was just an analogy :)
[02:37] <`rich> ... i hope not lol
[02:37] <Dot> right
[02:37] <arrenlex> Siph0n: I want to remote control my machine over my cell phone. xD
[02:37] <Dot> i have 2 questions
[02:37] <aoirthoir> UBUNTU ROCKS!
[02:37] <metguru> so what does that mean
[02:37] <arrenlex> Siph0n: Mostly to upload stuff I forgot to my webserver.
[02:37] <`rich> arrenlex, i'd suggest heading to the asterisk site and asking around there
[02:37] <Siph0n> lol k :) no idea than :)
[02:37] <`rich> there may even be an #asterisk channel here
[02:38] <adaptr> metguru: hmmm... it seems it has not enabled normal user permissions on it, then
[02:38] <IdleOne> Dot,  start with the first one
[02:38] <Dot> what is '3ddesk" and what does it do
[02:38] <`rich> but they'd probably be able to help you more
[02:38] <Dot> what is '3ddesk" and what does it do
[02:38] <arrenlex> `rich: There is, and I just joined it. Thanks a lot for he help! :)
[02:38] <Riyonuk> I need some desktop enviroments, gnome looks bleh
[02:38] <arrenlex> +the
[02:38] <`rich> no problem, good lucj
[02:38] <tonyyarusso> Dot: Eats your CPU, mainly :P
[02:38] <`rich> luck
[02:38] <Riyonuk> any recomendations?
[02:38] <adaptr> metguru: what happens when you just type "mount" ?
[02:38] <trev_> factboy818181: i think the same thing is happening to me, mabey they'll know in #winehq
[02:38] <Dot> is it like beryl
[02:38] <metguru> with what suffix
[02:38] <Dot> like
[02:38] <pschulz01> Hello.. I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a settop box with 'Via CentaurHauls' processor. Installation of 6.06.1-alternative fails on linux-restricted-modules package. The following bug may be related: Bug 59338
[02:38] <lixu> Riyonuk: xfce, kde
[02:38] <Dot> vista
[02:38] <metguru> or option
[02:38] <Dot> or what
[02:38] <tonyyarusso> Dot: Similar effect, with the spinny cube, but not nearly as well-implemented.
[02:39] <Riyonuk> xfce doesnt look all that great
[02:39] <Dot> ic
[02:39] <adaptr> metguru: re-read
[02:39] <Dot> k
[02:39] <gorbulas> i'm having trouble getting my wireless working (broadcom miniPCi BCM4318) working on my laptop, running 6.10 (fresh install), i've followed the guides on the net, and have managed to get the wireless light to steadily blink at a frequency of about 1 Hz, the light is normally on all the time in windows. I was wondering if you guys have heard of this before and know how to get it working properly? thanks
[02:39] <Dot> cus i installed it with synaptic
[02:39] <Dot> and it doesnet seem to do mutch
[02:39] <Dot> i mean
[02:39] <markoutthere> Hey all, does anyone know of a failrly user friendly program I can install on Ubuntu to create a map diagram of a network?>?
[02:39] <factboy818181> trev_: ok, thanks
[02:39] <Dot> i dont know how to use it
[02:39] <red> Siph0n: i dont see the connect button!
[02:39] <`rich> gorbulas, have you given it the wep key/ssid settings etc?
[02:39] <adaptr> markoutthere: etherape ?
[02:39] <lixu> Riyonuk:mybe try using metacity
[02:39] <metguru> sorry
[02:39] <pschulz01> markoutthere: Try 'dia'
[02:39] <metguru> /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[02:39] <metguru> proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[02:39] <metguru> /sys on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[02:39] <metguru> varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755)
[02:39] <metguru> varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777)
[02:39] <metguru> procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[02:39] <metguru> udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[02:39] <gorbulas> yea i have, several times in the network tools from the system manager
[02:39] <red> Siph0n: i dont see the connect button! i see a disconnect button but no connect button
[02:40] <metguru> devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[02:40] <metguru> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[02:40] <Dot> so how do i use 3ddesk
[02:40] <lixu> Riyonuk: or fluxbox
[02:40] <metguru> lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/volatile type tmpfs (rw)
[02:40] <adaptr> metguru: don't be sorry, be determined !
[02:40] <IdleOne> Riyonuk,  if you have a fast enough machine try using KDE sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop I believe
[02:40] <metguru> binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)
[02:40] <metguru> /dev/hda1 on /mnt type ext3 (rw)
[02:40] <metguru> /dev/hda1 on /mnt/media/hda1 type ext3 (rw)
[02:40] <metguru> /dev/sdb1 on /media/My Book type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=0,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[02:40] <metguru> /dev/hda2 on /media/hda1 type ext3 (rw)
[02:40] <Riyonuk> no no
[02:40] <metguru> arrgh, ooops
[02:40] <arrenlex> !paste | metguru
[02:40] <Dot> hmm
[02:40] <ubotu> metguru: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:40] <adaptr> metguru: but don't do that ! you'll get banned
[02:40] <metguru> well, i don't want to be so stupid you blow me off
[02:40] <Riyonuk> Im looking for a nice one for a crappy machine
[02:40] <Riyonuk> gnome is too much for me
[02:40] <Siph0n> red: sorry, mine has a Connect button right above disconnect..... are there any networks listed?
[02:40] <adaptr> metguru: THIS was stupid
[02:40] <FreeNet> hi will like to know how can I limit the maximum disk space can be in used a /var/samba directory?
[02:40] <xyz> jvai_:what are you talking about ,did you read my question ?
[02:40] <lixu> Riyonuk: just try fluxbox
[02:40] <`rich> metguru, people are here to help mate, don't worry about looking stupid. we were all new once.
[02:40] <jitesh> hi to all
[02:40] <Dot> helo?
[02:40] <metguru> ok, thanks
[02:41] <adaptr> !pastebin | metguru
[02:41] <ubotu> metguru: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:41] <Dot> does anyone know how i use 3ddesk
[02:41] <red> Siph0n: i see several networks listed
[02:41] <`rich> that said, i love the way that people think nobody is here unless they're talking directly to them ...
[02:41] <jitesh> i am new bie to this world of linux
[02:41] <Hansel> Dot - use beryl instead... WAY better.  :)
[02:41] <adaptr> Dot: 250 SMTP ready
[02:41] <IdleOne> Riyonuk, fluxbox xfce icewm e17
[02:41] <jitesh> and wanna know how to play mp3 and avi in linux
[02:41] <metguru> i didn't know it would send on different lines
[02:41] <jitesh> can anyone hlep?
[02:41] <jvai> xyz, yes, u said, how do u get notifications on messages?, did u mean privately? or on the board here?
[02:41] <cod1> Is there anyone out there that can help me get wireless running?
[02:41] <IdleOne> !mp3 | jitesh
[02:41] <ubotu> jitesh: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:42] <adaptr> metguru: well, yeah - that's the thing with lines.. only one will fit on one line
[02:42] <Hansel> jitesh - mplayer...
[02:42] <`rich> Is there a wireless macro? Seems a popular question heh
[02:42] <metguru> so theres like 3 'hda1's on the list, and i don't understand what is what
[02:42] <jitesh> thanks buddy
[02:42] <Dot> sorry
[02:42] <cod1> `rich, I still can't seem to get it working
[02:42] <Mastastealth> cod1: wuts the prob?
[02:42] <adaptr> metguru: if you affix a person's nick to a message, that person will know you're talking to them, not to the whole channel
[02:42] <Dot> but every time i install beryl i destroy my xserver
[02:43] <jvai> xyz, i answerded that question years ago, i reconnected like a thousand tymes
[02:43] <Dot> i have tried 6 times
[02:43] <jvai> since then
[02:43] <Hansel> Dot - which video card do you have?
[02:43] <kb1ibt> is there a bug in the version of wpa_supplicant that comes with edgy because it says it can't parse my conf file when i have the following uncommented: #ctrl_interface_group=wheel
[02:43] <Dot> s3 savage
[02:43] <Dot> supersavage
[02:43] <Hansel> hrrmmm... probably too old to do beryl.
[02:43] <Dot> it has 3d support
[02:43] <metguru> adaptr: ok
[02:43] <Dot> im trying to figure that out rite now
[02:43] <adaptr> metguru: excellent !
[02:43] <`rich> G'night all
[02:44] <Hansel> Dot - well 3ddesk will work but it looks like hell.
[02:44] <Riyonuk> OMG icewm is horrible >_<
[02:44] <adaptr> Dot: that sounds like a horrible card.. way too old to do beryl
[02:44] <metguru> adaptr: ha, ill have it on clipboard from now on
[02:44] <Dot> it has drm or whatever its called
[02:44] <xyz> jvai:you miss understood me i ment the time ,so it leaves a foot print of when the massage wh laft
[02:44] <Dot> dri
[02:44] <xyz> was left*
[02:44] <anto> mwe: you there?
[02:44] <Dot> oh
[02:44] <Hansel> Dot - your video card is probably from 1997  :(  heh.
[02:44] <Dot> and
[02:44] <Dot> lol
[02:45] <Dot> it in a ibm thinkpad t23
[02:45] <Hansel> Riyonuk - it all depends on your needs... icewm works great for many people.
[02:45] <TuTUx> anybody here has tried to install looking-glass on edgy?
[02:45] <Dot> it has a win2000 licence on it
[02:45] <Dot> oh and help with this
[02:45] <godtvisken> Does anyone know the xmodmap keycode for the \ | key?
[02:45] <Dot> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75393
[02:45] <Hansel> TuTUx - you mean that java crap that tries to be like beryl?
[02:45] <Dot> i looked in there
[02:45] <MTecknology> When I try to bot to a Ubuntu cd it gets to the boot options, I try the first two, it starts blinks a line of text in th top right and restarts the computer
[02:45] <jvai> ooo, sorry xyz, go thru "settings" then "preferences"
[02:45] <Dot> it says for breezy only
[02:45] <metguru> adaptr: can we do a personal chat so theres not other peoples messages everywhere, im just figuring id make it easier
[02:45] <adaptr> metguru: sure, knock yerself out
[02:45] <Dot> what am i supposed to do with edgy? :[
[02:45] <trev_> factboy818181:this probobly won't help you but on the winehq website it said that for broodwar he had to "fittle around" with the audio setting in winecfg
[02:46] <adaptr> Dot: burn it... oh sorry, burn it *on a CD* :)
[02:46] <Dot> what
[02:46] <kb1ibt> is there a bug in the version of wpa_supplicant that comes with edgy because it says it can't parse my conf file when i have the following uncommented: #ctrl_interface_group=wheel
[02:46] <Dot> idgi
[02:46] <markoutthere> WIll Etherape discover windows and linux?
[02:46] <Trixsey> Hey, gnome-volume-control isn't working for me, any tips? Can I get it somewhere?
[02:46] <Dot> what do you mean
[02:46] <TuTUx> Hansel, don't be so offensive ;P that project gave a lot help to beryl team, and now they have released 1.0
[02:46] <Rprp>   ChanServ Gio` Rprp
[02:46] <cod1> anyone around that can help me get wireless running?
[02:47] <Hansel> etherape sounds like ethereal... I imagine it would.
[02:47] <TehBigToe> etherape sounds a bit more sinister than that
[02:47] <TehBigToe> >_>
[02:47] <Dot> what do yo mean "burn it"
[02:47] <jessid_> hello, it is me again, trying to connect to ##java...but it says that i need to me identified....some of you know what that means?
[02:47] <dettoaltrimenti_> question: where are the keyboard layout files located in ubuntu?
[02:47] <Hansel> jessid - /msg nickserv identify yourpass
[02:47] <xyz> jvai:thanks
[02:47] <cypruser> What printer port do I use>
[02:47] <cypruser> ?
[02:48] <h0ndaracer2> i got a network card it kepts saying its bluetooth i need help on getting the error code so i can fix it
[02:48] <jvai> xyz np
[02:48] <Dot> what do yo mean "burn it"
[02:48] <Dot> hello?
[02:48] <h0ndaracer2> ive had the error code once but i cant rember it
[02:48] <pucko-> what could have made me unable to write to /tmp?
[02:48] <Hansel> cypruser - well... /dev/lp0 or /dev/usb/lp0 probably
[02:48] <xanitos> heeelo
[02:49] <MTecknology> When I try to bot to a Ubuntu cd it gets to the boot options, I try the first two, it starts blinks a line of text in th top right and restarts the computer. How do I get it to boot up so I can install?
[02:49] <idigital> hey guys, i want to upgrla
[02:49] <pucko-> what's the correct permissions on /tmp ?
[02:49] <idigital> upgrade my ubuntu 5.10 to a higher version so i can use beryl
[02:49] <idigital> how would i do that?
[02:49] <Dot> oh btw this is my exact card
[02:49] <Dot> SuperSavage IX/C SDR
[02:49] <tonyyarusso> !upgrade | idigital
[02:49] <ubotu> idigital: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:49] <xanitos> anyone know how i can get tcl is already the newest version.
[02:49] <metguru> adaptr: are you getting my personal messages?
[02:49] <xanitos> soz :P how can i get TCL ?
[02:50] <factboy818181> just wondering - is it possible to have one workspace with one resolution, and another workspace with a different one?
[02:50] <h0ndaracer2> how do i get information on my laptop pcmia ports or whatever they ever
[02:50] <Trixsey> Hey, gnome-volume-control isn't working for me, any tips? Can I get it somewhere?
[02:50] <h0ndaracer2> sry pcmcia
[02:50] <adaptr> metguru: no, I'm not
[02:50] <kb1ibt> h0ndaracer2: try running lshw
[02:50] <h0ndaracer2> ok
[02:51] <metguru> adaptr: oh well
[02:51] <Robinator> What is the easiest / best way to do forward an Internet Connection?    There are 2 PC's.   One of them has 2 Netword Cards.  The first Network Card is needed for the internet connection.  The second one has a cross-connect-cable.    Goal is,  that every PC / Laptop / MacBook or even router will be online,  which is connected to the cross-connect-cable  from the 2nd  Network Card  without any configuration like  changing the  IP Address or so of the added
[02:51] <Robinator> PC's
[02:51] <MarcN> factboy818181: don't think so.  Different monitors sure.
[02:51] <kb1ibt> metguru: you need to be registered w/ the server to send messages
[02:51] <metguru> kb1ibt: ok
[02:51] <Dot> okay
[02:51] <Dot> someone who knows graphics cards
[02:51] <Dot> help
[02:51] <Dot> help
[02:52] <Dot> help
[02:52] <Dot> :(
[02:52] <IdleOne> !enter
[02:52] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:52] <factboy818181> MarcN: ok, thanks
[02:52] <IdleOne> !patience | Dot
[02:52] <ubotu> Dot: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:52] <Dot> sorrrrrrrrry
[02:52] <metguru> adaptr: well, i have to go, if you could send me a link or something id appreciate it
[02:52] <Dot> but
[02:52] <Dot> here
[02:52] <h0ndaracer2> not it anyother suggestion to list thing specifically on pci ports
[02:52] <metguru> to something that explains it
[02:52] <Dot> go to my post in ububtu forums  (link in a sec)
[02:52] <Dot> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1934167#post1934167
[02:53] <h0ndaracer2> !pci
[02:53] <kb1ibt> lshw shows a tree of what is on every port so you just need to drill down
[02:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pci - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:54] <h0ndaracer2> ok ive done it before where you get the list of things on the pci ports then i did info on the certain item but i dont know how to do all that to get the info on the error code
[02:54] <cod1> where are all the wireless gurus out there?
[02:54] <Riyonuk> Can I customize gnome?
[02:54] <Hansel> cod1 - do you have the wireless card installed and now you are just needing to modprobe?
[02:54] <cod1> Hansel, I have it installed, not sure what I have to do to get it working though
[02:55] <h0ndaracer2> how do i modprobe pci ports what do i type
[02:55] <bigbro> h0ndaracer2: lspci  is a good start.
[02:55] <adaptr> metguru: I don't see how - and it's not that difficult
[02:55] <Hansel> well modprobe is how you define a specific driver and try to find hardware that will work with it... ie;   modprobe ndiswrapper  <--- will try to find a device that can "talk" with that driver.
[02:55] <MTecknology> When I try to bot to a Ubuntu cd it gets to the boot options, I try the first two, it starts blinks a line of text in th top right and restarts the computer
[02:56] <h0ndaracer2> thanks you i got the error code BCM4318 thats it
[02:56] <cod1> Hansel, that appears to be what I need to do
[02:56] <Jimerson> Hello, I have a real quick question about booting from the LiveCD. On my friend's Dell running windows 98, there is no command available to boot or startup from the LiveCD. Is there an MSDos command to do this?
[02:56] <IdleOne> Riyonuk, sure check out System > Preferences limited custimisation there but you can probably google for more
[02:56] <bigbro> Jimerson: Generally it's set in the BIOS. You need to boot from CD. The rest becomes rapidly obvious.
[02:56] <anandanbu> hi i have a problem in playing amarok in ubuntu
[02:56] <kb1ibt> Jimerson: it needs to be from the bios
[02:56] <adaptr> Hansel: not "define",  and not "find", either - modprobe uses the hooks in the driver module to try to connect to a device that the driver can manage
[02:56] <Hansel> cod1 - http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/  read up first  :)
[02:57] <Hansel> depending on the card you may need ndiswrapper or there may be another driver you use.
[02:57] <kb1ibt> Jimerson:  some bios are so ood that they don't know how to boot from a CD
[02:57] <Jimerson> bigbro / kb1ibt: How do I do that? I'm a mac user and have no idea what I'm doing on the Dell!
[02:57] <anandanbu> can someone help me
[02:57] <Hansel> anandanbu - amarok... what about it?
[02:57] <anandanbu> i have installed the amarok player using apt get
[02:57] <noiesmo> anandanbu, are you trying to play mp3
[02:57] <Hansel> ...
[02:58] <bigbro> Jimerson: generally, it's a hotkey. Some Dell's suggest you hit the F12 key just after restarting to get a boot menu.
[02:58] <kb1ibt> Jimerson: when booting you sometimes have to hold down one of the F keys
[02:58] <anandanbu> yeah
[02:58] <cod1> Hansel, i have installed that, and I followed these directions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4311_rev_01_%28ndiswrapper%29?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDevice%29#head-ea76065f30b99d3b8472289cd049e2b141856b55, but no soup for me
[02:58] <anandanbu> im triying to play the mp3
[02:58] <kb1ibt> Jimerson: just like to boot from a CD on your mac you hold the OPTN or C keys
[02:58] <noiesmo> anandanbu, sudo apt-get install libmad0 libxine-extracode
[02:58] <anandanbu> but it says an mp3 driver should be installed
[02:58] <bigbro> anandanbu: Get Easy Ubuntu.
[02:59] <anandanbu> will that be enough
[02:59] <Jimerson> bigbro / kb1ibt: I tried all the function keys and option, and every time it says keyboard failure (or error or something) I'll try the 'c' key though.
[02:59] <danielmccauley> Anyone know why my Powerbook trackpad isnt responding very well on a fresh copy of Ubuntu 6.06?
[02:59] <bigbro> anandanbu: That will install lots of useful codecs for playing common media formats.
[02:59] <Hansel> cod1 - so did you get the Windows driver and use the right .inf file?
[02:59] <kb1ibt> Jimerson: no the c key os for the mac not dell
[02:59] <FeliLixTKhat> cod1 ... can you IM me, I may have some help on your Broadcom card
[02:59] <noiesmo> anandanbu, yeah then make sure that amarok engine is xine thru amarok settings
[02:59] <Jimerson> kb1ibt: oh..
[02:59] <jvai_> a'ight ppl.. gn
[02:59] <cod1> Hansel, I am 99% sure I did
[02:59] <bigbro> Jimerson: Look at the screen just after you power it up. Since there is not a standard key on PCs, they generally tell you which key gets you to the BIOS settings.
[02:59] <idigital> where is the GUI
[03:00] <Jimerson> kb1ibt: Aye, that was the first thing I did.. it mentions no hotkey.
[03:00] <anandanbu> thnx bigbro and noieesmo ill try with these
[03:00] <Hansel> cod1 - I read over the page real quick and it appears to be as thorough as I would be...
[03:00] <bigbro> Jimerson: Alternatively, google for the laptop model and the keyword BIOS.
[03:00] <kb1ibt> is there a bug in the version of wpa_supplicant that comes with edgy because it says it can't parse my conf file when i have the following uncommented: #ctrl_interface_group=wheel
[03:00] <jessid_> Hansel do you know how can i get that password????
[03:00] <Hansel> dunno what to tell you other than go through it again and msg me at each checkoff point and let me know what the output was and any questions.
[03:00] <rambo3> idigital, just start hitting any key on keyboard untill it screems
[03:00] <Jimerson> bigbro: thanks, I'll try that. (It's actually a desktop model)
[03:01] <danielmccauley> Anyone know why my Powerbook trackpad isnt responding very well on a fresh copy of Ubuntu 6.06?
[03:01] <cod1> I go to step 6 and wlan0 did not show up in iwconfig, although everything seemed to work until that point
[03:01] <idigital> where can i find or open GUI?
[03:01] <Hansel> jessid_ which password?
[03:01] <idigital> If you want to upgrade using GUI use the following command
[03:01] <idigital> gksu update-manager -c 
[03:01] <rambo3> !madwifi >cod1
[03:01] <Hansel> cod1 - type lsmod and /msg me the output
[03:01] <idigital> Terminal?
[03:03] <jessid_> Hansel the one you talked about...to enter to ##java
[03:03] <idigital> what is the shortcut key for opening terminal?
[03:03] <idigital> anyone?
[03:03] <Dot> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1934167#post1934167
[03:03] <Hansel> jessid_ oh.. you have to register with nickserv...
[03:03] <Dot> help
[03:03] <Hansel> that is how you get "identified" and bump from the #channel to ##channel
[03:03] <Dot> i know im annoying but ive had this problem foe a while
[03:03] <Hansel> its a re-route for identified users to stop spam.
[03:03] <Dot> :{
[03:04] <jessid_> Hansel I am sorry for asking a lot...I dont know what you are saying....
[03:04] <Siph0n> idigital: go to System->preferences->keyboard shortcut
[03:04] <n2diy_> testing
[03:04] <Hansel> Dot - the same steps apply but the version numbers may be different for your version.
[03:04] <rambo3> !cli
[03:04] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[03:04] <Siph0n> idigital: u can make your own shortcut, or see what it is already
[03:04] <Dot> k thanx :] 
[03:05] <Hansel> jessid_ type /msg nickserv
[03:05] <Hansel> /msg nickserv help
[03:05] <Hansel> :)
[03:05] <n2diy_> how come a I can't change my nick with "/nick n2diy"?
[03:05] <Hansel> because n2diy already exists on the network
[03:05] <Hansel> n2diy is n=darryl@ppp-42d429ae.wlks.losch.net * Darryl Gibson
[03:05] <Hansel> only one instance of a nickname can exist...
[03:05] <Hansel> otherwise we would all have an identity crisis.
[03:06] <Hansel> n2diy_ - you may want to ping it if it is a ghosted nick that is just waiting to ping timeout and drop off the network.
[03:06] <cypruser> How do I use CUPS?
[03:06] <Hansel> you may want to ps -aux and see if another irc client is running and kill it  :)
[03:06] <idigital> How would i upgrade my ubuntu to 6.10 from 5.10
[03:06] <idigital> http://www.debianadmin.com/upgrade-ubuntu-dapper-to-ubuntu-edgy-eft.html
[03:06] <n2diy_> Hansel, ok, that makes sense, how do I ping him, /ping n2diy?
[03:06] <idigital> i wanted to do it by gui
[03:07] <Hansel> that may work... /ctcp n2diy ping
[03:07] <documan> me too
[03:07] <documan> I need GUIssss
[03:07] <cypruser> How do I use CUPS?
[03:07] <Hansel> cypruser - a few ways... easiest is if you have Gnome go to settings menu and choose Printers
[03:07] <Madpilot> idigital, you need to go 5.10->6.06->6.10 - no skipping versions
[03:07] <Hansel> you can also use the web interface
[03:07] <Hansel> I believe it runs on localhost on port 691 or something.
[03:08] <FeliLixTKhat> cypruser ... what model printer do you have?
[03:08] <Hansel> localhost:691/admin  <--- pull that up in your webbrowser  :)
[03:08] <IdleOne> idigital, backup /home and anything else you may want to keep, burn iso of ubuntu 6.10 then install and restore your backed up files
[03:08] <cody> Hansel, did you get that im?
[03:08] <cypruser> HP LaserJet 1100
[03:08] <Hansel> make that 631  :)
[03:08] <[danielmccauley] > Anyone know why my Powerbook trackpad isnt responding very well on a fresh copy of Ubuntu 6.06?
[03:08] <jessid_> Hansel yes! you are right! now I can understand!!! I have registered :) At last I could enter to ##java !!!! Thanks
[03:08] <Hansel> im?  you mean /msg?  no...
[03:08] <Madpilot> ubotu, printer | cypruser
[03:08] <ubotu> cypruser: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[03:08] <Hansel> [danielmccauley]  - define "not responding well"
[03:09] <emun> hi, everybody , need some help, I have an unsupported canon printer pixma mp150 connected to a print server on a windows network , now is it possible to print in ubuntu in this setup, I can see the network from ubuntu
[03:09] <Hansel> emun - see the cups links above just pasted by ubotu
[03:09] <[danielmccauley] > Hansel: Even after changing the sensitivity settings, it still only moves maybe a half inch on the screen where as that movement in OSX will go the entire screen
[03:09] <idigital> madpilot . im upgrading 6.06
[03:09] <n2diy_> Hansel:  /ctcp n2diy ping doesn't seem to be working, I can't change my nick.
[03:09] <kb1ibt> [danielmccauley] : first make sure it doesn't have a static charge build up try covering the trackpad with all your fingers horizonally and slowly move it off
[03:09] <idigital> so when i done i can go update 610
[03:10] <idigital> correct?
[03:10] <Madpilot> idigital, then yes, you can go from 6.06->6.10 with a GUI
[03:10] <Hansel> n2diy - /msg nickserv help ghost
[03:10] <godtvisken> I just set my xmodmap keymap to use characters like    and so forth, but they don't appear when I try to type them
[03:10] <IdleOne> idigital,  correct
[03:10] <documan> all linuxes have the same "Filesystem Hierarchy Standard" ?
[03:10] <cody> Hansel, I have no idea how to /msg
[03:10] <[danielmccauley] > kblibt: any other suggestions?
[03:10] <Hansel> documan - for the most part yes... a few of them diverge in their use of /etc
[03:10] <Hansel> the best example would be Slackware and RedHat.
[03:11] <Riyonuk> I keep getting this error when trying to play any of my songs "You do not have a decoder installed to handle this file. You might need to install the necessary plugins."
[03:11] <Hansel> Slackware is more BSD-like, RedHat has it's own method to it's madness... most other distros are fairly similar in their /etc breakdown.
[03:11] <dredhammer> any news on if vlc  0.8.6 is available for Dapper? tried to back port it with prevu but no go
[03:11] <emun> thanks but any tips from anybody who has done this?
[03:11] <kb1ibt> [danielmccauley] : other than fooling arround with the sensitivity in /etc/X11/xorg.conf not really
[03:11] <Hansel> documan - overall though /home is where user files are /etc is for config files      /bin /usr/bin  /sbin /usr/sbin are for common executables...
[03:11] <IdleOne> !mp3 | Riyonuk
[03:11] <ubotu> Riyonuk: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:11] <MarcN> dredhammer: vlc 0.8.6 is in edgy
[03:12] <[danielmccauley] > kblibt: where abouts in the .conf would i need to change values?
[03:12] <Rug> !lamp
[03:12] <dredhammer> i tried backporting that with prevu
[03:12] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[03:12] <Riyonuk> How do I get the tasks at the bottom to not stretch across the whole bar?
[03:12] <documan> regarding winxp: /home=My Documents, /etc=SYSTEM and /bin /usr/bin=Program Files?
[03:13] <Hansel> documan - sure... that's a fairly easy way to look at it  :)
[03:13] <n2diy_> ubotu help ghost
[03:13] <kb1ibt> [danielmccauley] : in the Section "InputDevice" representing your trackpad
[03:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help ghost - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:13] <idigital> Can some one give me link do with sound driver> or sound not detect or not able to play sound.
[03:13] <Hansel> /sbin and /usr/sbin would be windows and system32 dir  :)
[03:13] <Riyonuk> is winamp on ubuntu?
[03:13] <[danielmccauley] > kblibt: thanks
[03:13] <Hansel> Riyonuk - no... but there are MANy alternatives.
[03:13] <Jimerson> bigbro / kb1ibt: Thanks a bunch- finally got it resolved
[03:14] <Riyonuk> which ones?
[03:14] <ytoox_> I got a weird error with kiba dock
[03:14] <Hansel> documan - /etc could also be considered the registry...
[03:14] <ytoox_> can you help me
[03:14] <idigital> sound driver> or sound not detect or not able to play sound.
[03:14] <ytoox_> (kiba-dock:6687): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_screen_get_monitor_geometry: assertion `monitor_num < GDK_SCREEN_X11 (screen)->num_monitors' failed
[03:14] <bigbro> Jimerson: Good stuff :-)
[03:15] <Hansel> ytoox_ have you googled for the error?
[03:15] <cypruser> If I'm using a HP LaserJet 1100, what settings do I select in the Printer Properties - Connection page?
[03:15] <Hansel> ytoox_ can you easily re-create the error?  If so possibly strace the process and then google the error...
[03:15] <kb1ibt> is there a bug in the version of wpa_supplicant that comes with edgy because it says it can't parse my conf file when i have the following uncommented: #ctrl_interface_group=wheel
[03:15] <idigital> Anyone know Compiz?
[03:15] <hagabaka> oooh, #ubuntu-women :O
[03:15] <cypruser> Do I choose Local or Network printer? What URI do I choose? Please help!
[03:16] <TooR4u> how to fastup my browser?
[03:16] <Hansel> kb1ibt - the # is usually a comment in a config file... try uncommenting by removing the #?  :P
[03:16] <notsay> hello, everybody
[03:16] <Hansel> TooR4u - "fastup"?
[03:16] <n2diy> cypruser: is the printer on a network?
[03:16] <IdleOne> Riyonuk, rythmbox , xmms , sound juicer ( default ) and many many others search for music in synaptic
[03:16] <tevfikt> hello
[03:16] <wweasel> Guys, is there any way to change Screen Depth while in my session (I use Gnome).  Either CLI or GUI way? I know I could change the default in xorg.conf, but I'd like to be able to switch between two depths without restarting X.
[03:16] <cypruser> It's connected to the computer I'm using right now.
[03:16] <Hansel> hi tevfikt
[03:16] <ytoox_> Hansel: I did but nothing came up from google
[03:16] <kb1ibt> Hansel: that's what i mean, every time i remove the # it errors out
[03:16] <Riyonuk> but which is the best, just for audio
[03:16] <tevfikt> i need help for wireless connection..
[03:16] <TooR4u> Hansel, yaa ..... My browser becomming slow (access time is more to access local files....etc)
[03:16] <n2diy> then it is local
[03:17] <notsay> who used beryl  ?
[03:17] <tevfikt> i have wireless connection but i cannot take ip =o\
[03:17] <Hansel> kb1ibt - are you sure that is an actual setting as opposed to an example of how to create a setting and parameter?
[03:17] <TuTUx> anybody here has tried to install looking-glass on edgy?
[03:17] <Hansel> man wpa_supplicant and see if it gives you actual settings.
[03:17] <IdleOne> Riyonuk, beautiful thing about linux is they are all free so try them out see what you prefer then remove the ones you dont want :)
[03:17] <n2diy> anybody know of software for generating monitor test patterns?
[03:18] <Riyonuk> but it leave stuff in the registry?
[03:18] <wweasel> Riyonuk: Linux has no registry.
[03:18] <kb1ibt> Hansel: both in the example, in an old version of the file (from another box) and in the man they all say to use that exact command w/o the #
[03:18] <Riyonuk> :o
[03:18] <Riyonuk> lies!
[03:18] <IdleOne> Riyonuk, it's helpful for ppl who are taslking to you if you type theyre name in front of what your saying . it highlights in red on my screen when you type my name
[03:18] <Riyonuk> Then where are prefrences stored?
[03:18] <Jimerson> Is there an ubunutu channel for mac users?
[03:18] <arrenlex> !who | Riyonuk, IdleOne
[03:18] <ubotu> Riyonuk, IdleOne: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say, or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[03:18] <wweasel> Riyonuk: In text files
[03:18] <Riyonuk> IdleOne, sorry
[03:18] <gu014> i installed a brand new amd athlon 64 cpu..placed the heatsink and then removed the heatsink..will i have to apply some sort of thermal paste if i want to reapply the heatsink
[03:18] <MTecknology> When I try to boot to a Ubuntu cd it gets to the boot options, I try the first two, it starts blinks a line of text ("Uncompressing Linux OK... Booting The Kernel...") in th top right and restarts the computer
[03:18] <gu014> was removed for about 30 deconds
[03:18] <Hansel> kb1ibt - only thing I can think of is you may have some bad character formatting... did you use vi or nano or pico or something to edit it that may have added it's own characters to the file?
[03:18] <gu014> seconds
[03:19] <notsay> local
[03:19] <notsay> idigital, yes , I know it.
[03:19] <Hansel> kb1ibt - vi is the way to go for editing config files.
[03:19] <Riyonuk> wweasel, now thats convienant :p
[03:19] <IdleOne> Riyonuk,  np it just makes things a little easier :)
[03:19] <christopher> hey
[03:19] <Hansel> gu014 - should be fine..
[03:19] <tevfikt> Heyyyyyyyyy
[03:19] <kb1ibt> Hansel: i used nano but even after removing the line and re-adding it in vi it still was erroring
[03:19] <Hansel> gu014 - it wouldn't hurt to apply thermal paste though.
[03:19] <FeliLixTKhat> cypruser .... Usually but not allways, printers are set up during installation.  The CUPS printer drivers cover cover a good many printers-but some, like my Canon IP6000 are not supported.  the IP4000 driver is listed, but it will not work with a 6000 model.   You may need to download a non-free program called Turbo-Print.  The download version provides basic printer functioning, with more advanced features (higher res printing, ink mo
[03:19] <FeliLixTKhat> nitorig etc) being unlocked when payment is recieved for the key.
[03:19] <tevfikt> i have wireless connection but i cannot take ip =o\
[03:19] <Riyonuk> IdleOne, theres a game I found that I want to install. I dont see it in Add/Remove Programs or Synaptic, why is that?
[03:19] <wweasel> Riyonuk: You'll find that just about all of your program specific configurations are in your home folder, in hidden folders. Such as .xchat, .gaim, etc.
[03:20] <IdleOne> Riyonuk,  there may not be a package made for it in ubuntu
[03:20] <wweasel> Riyonuk: It might not be in your repositories. What's its name?
[03:20] <gu014> Hansel: the manual says if i remove it for any reason apply the thermal paste..do you think i can get away with it since it was removed for only seconds?
[03:20] <christopher> How do you install aim on ubuntu?
[03:20] <Hansel> Riyonuk - what is the game called?
[03:20] <idigital> notsay > How would i download and install Compiz?
[03:20] <arrenlex> !gaim | christopher
[03:20] <ubotu> christopher: Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[03:20] <Hansel> christopher - gaim should already be installed...
[03:20] <mcphail> Riyonuk: some GNOME apps use a registry of sorts.
[03:20] <christopher> it is
[03:20] <cypruser> For my HP LaserJet printer, do I use a LPT #1 port? It's connected through USB.
[03:20] <christopher> but I want aim for the features
[03:21] <Hansel> Riyonuk - if you found a game on some website that ubuntu does not have a package for you may have to compile it...
[03:21] <Hansel> christopher - aim is a Windows application.  You do realize you are using Linux, right?
[03:21] <christopher> yes yes
[03:21] <Hansel> you can use Wine to run Windows applications...
[03:21] <christopher> but it has linux versions
[03:21] <n2diy> cypruser: negative on LPT 1
[03:21] <wweasel> Riyonuk: Have you enabled universe/multiverse repositories (and if you don't know what I mean, that means no)
[03:21] <IdleOne> Riyonuk, if your machine cant handle gnome the way you like it probably wont do it for the game either but you can try it
[03:21] <kb1ibt> gu014: some times you can sometimes you can't it depends on the type of thermal material
[03:21] <christopher> howeverI dont know how to get intsalled correctly
[03:22] <Riyonuk> http://www.warsow.net/
[03:22] <Hansel> christopher - gaim is your best bet for GUI interfaces... naim for command line interfaces (CLI)
[03:22] <christopher> hm. alrihgt
[03:22] <christopher> alright*
[03:22] <idigital> notsay > How would i download and install Compiz?
[03:22] <wweasel> !compiz
[03:22] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:22] <cypruser> For my HP LaserJet printer, do I use one of the Parallel port? It's connected through USB.
[03:22] <Riyonuk> Also, is there a music player thats just the box? It seems Totem and RythmBox are music librarys/video/music in one big screen, I hate that
[03:22] <Riyonuk> wweasel, yes
[03:22] <gu014> kblibt: its the stock material that comes with the amd athlon 64 3200+
[03:22] <christopher> I guess i was trying to figure all the commands and stuff out
[03:22] <Hansel> isn't compiz called beryl now?
[03:23] <christopher> I just got ubuntu
[03:23] <IdleOne> Riyonuk, xmms
[03:23] <christopher> so
[03:23] <emun> I notice the turboprint puts an image on the printed pages until you buy the full aplication I guess
[03:23] <wiseelben> Anyone here got the streams from nba.com/vidoes to work? If I use the MediaPlayerConnectivity addon in firefox, I can open them in mplayer, but it is really low quality, almost unwatchable.
[03:23] <neuratix> Hansel: beryl is a fork of compiz
[03:23] <Hansel> ah, got it  :)
[03:23] <neuratix> Hansel: it's better imho
[03:23] <wweasel> Riyonuk: You want really basic? Are you switching from Windows I presume? What did you use to play music in Windows?
[03:23] <wiseelben> emun: if you change your DPI to the lowest setting, teh watermark will not be there
[03:23] <Hansel> neuratix - compiz is better or beryl?
[03:23] <Riyonuk> wweasel, winamp
[03:23] <neuratix> Hansel: no, beryl is better than compiz
[03:23] <Hansel> gotcha  :)
[03:24] <wweasel> Riyonuk: So you're looking for something similar?
[03:24] <IdleOne> Madpilot, about a year ago you told me about a music player if I remember you said it was ( old school ) but it worked really well. I had installed it back then but forget whjat it was called
[03:24] <Hansel> thats what I was thinking  :)
[03:24] <Riyonuk> wweasel, if I tell you programs I was used to, would you list some programs like it, yes
[03:24] <h0ndaracer2> fixed my problemwht my etho did not work i had it blacklisted and it would not load
[03:24] <cypruser> For my HP LaserJet printer, do I use one of the Parallel port? It's connected through USB.
[03:24] <Madpilot> IdleOne, muine?
[03:24] <IdleOne> Madpilot, possible
[03:24] <earthen> could someone help with installing ATI fglrx driver
[03:24] <emun> wiselben , thanks i did not know that i will try that and see
[03:24] <Hansel> modprobe fglrx
[03:25] <Hansel> edit your X config file with fglrx instead of whatever you currently have, save it, restart x
[03:25] <earthen> Hansel: I have the driver installed but i'm getting an error when I type fglrxinfo
[03:25] <wiseelben> cypruser: no, you would use a USB port, parallel porst are the old ones
[03:25] <wweasel> Riyonuk: And you really don't want something with a music library, right?
[03:25] <earthen> Hansel: the error is "Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0""
[03:26] <Riyonuk> wweasel, well its not the library its just the look, but I dont really use librarys
[03:26] <cypruser> wiseelben: I don't see a USB port setting. The only other one I see is hp no_device_found
[03:26] <emun> I  think your printer has not been seen by ubuntu through  usb
[03:26] <wweasel> Riyonuk: Did you check out XMMS? It was modeled after Winamp
[03:26] <documan> I would like to ask: I am the sole user of my system, is there a linux that doesnt have "users" stuff?
[03:26] <Hansel> earthen - google for that error... I see TONS of people that have previously discussed and resolved it...
[03:26] <Hansel> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=277294  <--- first hit
[03:26] <Riyonuk> wweasel, no I will
[03:26] <bigbro> documan: No - Linux is inherently multi-user capable - but you can, of course, be the only user.
[03:27] <documan> "In GoboLinux you don't need a package manager because the filesystem is the package manager: each program resides in its own directory" isnt that great?
[03:27] <earthen> Hansel: ok guess i should have tryed that first but i'd though i'd ask here
[03:27] <earthen> Hansel: thanks
[03:27] <Hansel> documan - you can boot into single user mode... you edit your startup scripts...
[03:27] <kb1ibt> documan: that sounds like a load of
[03:28] <infidel> my gnome-panel keeps crashing when i log in what can i do to fix this?
[03:28] <Hansel> documan - sounds inefficient to have every program in its own directory... GoboLinux sounds like a crappy distro...
[03:28] <wweasel> Does anyone know how to change my current X session's Colour Depth, preferably by passing a command in the terminal?
[03:28] <wiseelben> cypruser: what type of HP printer do you have?
[03:28] <documan> too good to be true?
[03:28] <Hansel> wweasel - edit your X config file and change the depth there...
[03:28] <Hansel> you have to restart X as far as I know...
[03:28] <cypruser> wiseelben: It's a HP LaserJet 1100.
[03:28] <markoutthere> Easy question for you guys, I am trying to install cheops-ng I downloaded and extracted it. What command do I run to install it?
[03:28] <wweasel> Hansel: That's what I'm trying to avoid - is there no way to do it dynamically, like changing screen resolution?
[03:29] <Hansel> markoutthere - you probably need to compile it... ./configure             make            make install
[03:29] <Riyonuk> Is there a program that tells me, like in the taskbar, wether Im connected to the internet or not?
[03:29] <Hansel> wweasel - dunno... I am an old schooler so I am used to having to kill X and restart.
[03:29] <markoutthere> Hansel Where do I learn how to do that?
[03:29] <n2diy> Riyonuk: kppp
[03:29] <Hansel> Riyonuk - you could probably add a tool to check for you.... easier to just pull up an xterm and ping google.com  :)
[03:30] <Riyonuk> :p
[03:30] <Riyonuk> can I write a batch files to do that?
[03:30] <Hansel> markoutthere - go google for compile linux kernel or compile linux program... should be plenty of tutorials on it.
[03:30] <wweasel> Riyonuk: you could use network-manager.
[03:30] <Hansel> Riyonuk - you mean a shell script?  There aren't batch files in linux... google for .sh shell script linux
[03:30] <markoutthere> Hansel Thanks
[03:30] <wweasel> !network-manager
[03:30] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[03:30] <timfrost> markoutthere: If you enable the universe repository, you can install a version that the Ubuntu developers have packaged for us.
[03:31] <wiseelben> cypruser: have you tried linuxprinting.org? Here is your printer: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_1100
[03:31] <Riyonuk> Ive learned more today about a computer than all 10 yrs of school, thanks!
[03:31] <wweasel> Riyonuk: It might just be what you're looking for in terms of network connectivity. It's rather nice.
[03:31] <variant> wweasel: you can do ctrl alt + to change resolution, that might reload the colour depth to but i am not sure
[03:31] <Hansel> Riyonuk - google > school
[03:31] <n2diy> Riyonuk: I highly recommend kppp, it does a lot more than control connections, like debbuging, displaying incoming and outgoing data, etc...
[03:31] <Riyonuk> wweasel, no way, I tried network manager and i couldnt get internet to work
[03:31] <gaten> hah. isnt that the truth
[03:32] <bigbro> variant: That only cycles through the configured resolutions and colour depths. Ubuntu only sets up one colour depth and resolution by defeault, IIRC.
[03:32] <cafuego> no, it's all filthy lies
[03:32] <wweasel> Riyonuk: You could also add the Network Monitor thingo to your Gnome panel, assuming you're using gnome
[03:32] <Riyonuk> cool, XMMS plays MP3s
[03:32] <Hansel> :)
[03:32] <variant> wweasel: actualy, aparrantly x doesnt allow changing colour depth without restarting
[03:33] <bruenig> !automatix | wiseelben
[03:33] <ubotu> wiseelben: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[03:33] <wiseelben> Riyonuk: every media player should play MP3s if oyu have the codecs installed =o
[03:33] <bigbro> Riyonuk: Yup - that's largely what it's designed to do :-)
[03:33] <wweasel> variant: Thanks man. That's a pain :P
[03:33] <variant> wweasel: indeeed
[03:33] <wiseelben> !ubuntu | bruenig
[03:33] <ubotu> bruenig: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[03:33] <bruenig> !windows | wiseelben
[03:33] <Riyonuk> Well I was more on the lines of looking for something like Network Stumbler, I know therse kismet, but I couldnt get that to work >_<
[03:33] <ubotu> wiseelben: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[03:33] <n2diy> wweasel, I found network manager to be a PITA, I had to keep to icons on the panel, when one wouldn't dial, I'd use the other one. Kppp works out of the box.
[03:33] <wiseelben> !spam | bruenig
[03:34] <Hansel> !quit | all-of-you
[03:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:34] <bruenig> ha, he doesn't know anything about spam
[03:34] <wiseelben> because he's a noob
[03:34] <bruenig> by he I mean the genderless bot
[03:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about quit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:34] <wweasel> n2diy: That's the nice thing about Linux - options. To each his or her own. Personally, I love network-manager, though I find the fact that one needs to comment out everything in /etc/network/interfaces to be a pain.
[03:34] <wweasel> n2diy: Once I had it set up though, I think it is the best thing for the job for me.
[03:35] <Hansel> The nice thing about linux is you can configure it any way you want.  That bad thing is it usually takes a week, hours on forums, and mashing your head on the keyboard to get everything just so.
[03:35] <n2diy> wweasel: roger all that.
[03:35] <MTecknology> time to go, ttyal
[03:35] <Hansel> peace out, girl scout.
[03:36] <FeliLixTKhat> Thanks Hansel .... so true
[03:36] <wweasel> Hansel: Yep :D
[03:37] <n2diy> Hansel, that is the tip of the iceberg, finding a distro you enjoy using is a battle too, I'm very happy to have found Ubuntu.
[03:37] <Riyonuk> How do I get my screen resolution higher? I know its higher than 1280x768
[03:37] <Hansel> n2diy - same... for servers I still prefer FreeBSD though.
[03:37] <wweasel> Hansel:  And you'll spend the rest of your days tweaking things, because you can and you're that type of person.
[03:37] <bruenig> !fixres | Riyonuk
[03:37] <ubotu> Riyonuk: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:37] <Hansel> Riyonuk - are you sure your monitor can go higher?
[03:37] <Riyonuk> Kinda
[03:37] <bruenig> kinda?
[03:37] <Riyonuk> I think one more higher
[03:38] <Riyonuk> well its just everything is so big
[03:38] <Hansel> Riyonuk - just edit your X config then... if it crashes try something else.  :)
[03:38] <Riyonuk> in windows I could fit like 12 icons on the side
[03:38] <Riyonuk> if it crashes will rebooting fix it?
[03:38] <Hansel> nope.
[03:38] <wiseelben> Riyonuk: you can always.. you know... make your icons smaller.. =)
[03:38] <n2diy> Hansel: I don't have to mess with servers, but I did spend six jumping around between RH, Mandrake, FC, before I found Ubuntu, no I have a distro I can call home.
[03:38] <Hansel> just remember what you change in a config file so you can change it back.
[03:38] <Riyonuk> :o
[03:38] <jughead> what is the command to uninstall with apt-get?  I installed beep-media-player and I have xmms, but firefox defaults to beep-media-player; I need to open .pls files with xmms not beep
[03:38] <wiseelben> or backup your xorg.conf first
[03:38] <bruenig> Riyonuk, you would need to boot into the console and change your xorg to fix it
[03:38] <n2diy> Hansel, six years.
[03:39] <wiseelben> jughead: sudo apt-get remove
[03:39] <Hansel> n2diy - I was raised on RedHat and Slackware.... Slackware makes you understand wtf you are doing which is good but it gets old.
[03:39] <Siph0n> wweasel: i tryed using network manager, but i dont see Wireless networking in it... is that because i didnt comment anything out in /etc/network/interfaces?
[03:39] <Riyonuk> yeah..I dont know how to do that, so Ill pass
[03:39] <Riyonuk> how do I make icons smaller?
[03:39] <jughead> thanks wiseelben
[03:39] <wiseelben> riyonuk: right click, strech icon
[03:39] <wiseelben> right click on the icon
[03:39] <Riyonuk> Theres gotta be a test to see if my resolution can go higher >_>
[03:39] <Hansel> Riyonuk - it's not too big of a problem... just copy your xorg config file then edit it... if it gets jacked just erase the new one and mv the old one back to the original nam.e
[03:39] <wiseelben> jughead: you're welcome
[03:39] <bruenig> Riyonuk, there is, change it and see if your monitor goes crazy
[03:39] <wweasel> Siph0n: Yep, exactly. To get network-manager to recognize your stuff you should comment out everything but your 'lo' interface (prob 2 lines) in /etc/network/interfaces
[03:40] <n2diy> Hansel, roger on Slack, sounds similiar to RH 5.2, which was my first attempt at linux, never did X configured with that.
[03:40] <Riyonuk> mv?
[03:40] <Riyonuk> and where exactly is this file?
[03:40] <bruenig> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:40] <Hansel> mv is to move or rename files.
[03:40] <n2diy> anybody know of software for generating monitor test patterns?
[03:41] <Hansel> cp xorg.conf  xorg.conf.backup
[03:41] <bruenig> sudo cp*
[03:41] <Hansel> ahh... i always forget about sudo  :)
[03:41] <Siph0n> wweasel thanx :)
[03:41] <Adammm> hehe
[03:42] <cypruser> In CUPS, what is the Device URI supposed to be?
[03:42] <godtvisken> Can the "Windows" key be mapped?
[03:42] <n2diy> ubotu, monica
[03:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about monica - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:42] <Jimerson> Anyone else have problems with a G5 iMac network using a broadcom airport extreme card? I tried altering the resolv.conf file (which didn't exist in the first place so I had to create one) and also put the DNS servers in the network setting. IS there anything else I can do to try and fix this? (neither the airport or wired ethernet work)
[03:42] <Hansel> godtvisken - I believe so... never cared to try but I would imagine it's feasible.
[03:43] <dettoaltrimenti_> godtvisken: yes, the key is called Super
[03:43] <bruenig> Super_L and Super_R
[03:43] <dettoaltrimenti_> so Ctrl Super X would be ctrl+windows+x
[03:43] <Adammm> hm, never knew that...
[03:43] <godtvisken> dettoaltrimenti_: thanks
[03:44] <Hansel> but for the key to truly be "super" you have to scratch off the Windows logo  ::: troll bait :::
[03:44] <n2diy> ubotu, giflib
[03:44] <godtvisken> What is the key called that has a pointer on it? I think it acts as right cilk
[03:44] <godtvisken> click*
[03:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about giflib - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:44] <Adammm> you mean, backspace?
[03:44] <cypruser> Do Win32 programs work on Ubuntu?
[03:44] <Adammm> has a "<[03:45] <Hansel> cypruser - not by default... with WINE they can... http://www.winehq.org
[03:45] <bruenig> !wine | cyphase_
[03:45] <ubotu> cyphase_: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:45] <godtvisken> Adammm: no, this has a small picture of a mouse on it
[03:45] <godtvisken> a mouse pointer*
[03:45] <n2diy> cypruser: WINE is the linux windows emulator.
[03:45] <Adammm> Oh, no clue then
[03:45] <Adammm> :P
[03:45] <cypruser> How do I run MapleStory on Linux?
[03:45] <dettoaltrimenti_> cypruser but there is not really any application for windows that there isn't a better replacement for in ubuntu (except maybe utorrent)
[03:45] <Adammm> Oh, that one?, next to LWindows?
[03:46] <Adammm> *RWindows
[03:46] <jhowell> Any ideas on why Firefox crashes on pages w flash files?
[03:46] <Adammm> I have alwasy imagined it to be something to do with page breaks - no clue why, im probably wrong
[03:46] <scorp123> jhowell: old Flash plugin maybe?
[03:47] <cypruser> jhowell: Firefox crashed on Flash for me but I solved that by installing a new version of Flash with Automatix.
[03:47] <scorp123> jhowell: I used to have this problem with YouTube.com ... Workaround: Use Opera. Fix: Upgrade to newest Flash plugin, upgrade Firefox.
[03:47] <jhowell> scorp123: just downloaded Ubuntu, Firefox today, perhaps the flash reader in not up to v 2
[03:47] <scorp123> jhowell: v9 beta you mean
[03:48] <Hansel> its been 10 minutes... every package on your system probably has a new release.  :x
[03:48] <variant> cypruser: what is that program?
[03:48] <Adammm> Hansel : Probably lol
[03:48] <cypruser> variant: I don't really know but it seems to be an automatic package installer.
[03:49] <variant> cypruser: if it is on your hard disk you can click it in the file explorer or type "wine /path/to/MapleStory.exe"
[03:49] <braden__> hi there, im following the ipod Video encoding howto on the wiki, and when I run apt-get source ffmpeg it says that the package is not available.
[03:49] <Art_> How do I set up Ubuntu for automatic login?  Like I do on Kubuntu?
[03:49] <cypruser> variant: Oh, wrong thing. MapleStory is a game.
[03:49] <jhowell> scorp123: v2.0 of FireFox
[03:49] <Hansel> Art_ you want to gnome automatically login w/o requiring you to enter your password?
[03:50] <variant> cypruser: is it a windows executable?
[03:50] <scorp123> jhowell: yes, but the problems come from the Flash plugin. You have to upgrade v.7 => v. 9
[03:50] <Art_> Hansel, Yes.
[03:50] <cypruser> variant: Well, it's a game for Windows.
[03:50] <jhowell> scorp123: thanks - will give that a try
[03:50] <neurotech> Any photographers here that know any programs that are Aperture/Lightroom calibre for Ubuntu?
[03:50] <qwer5> if the program ends with .exe it's executable
[03:50] <scorp123> cypruser: are you sure there is no equivalent for Linux?
[03:50] <variant> cypruser: so just click/run the .exe installer
[03:50] <cypruser> scorp123: I'm pretty sure.
[03:50] <variant> cypruser: make sure you have wine installed first
[03:50] <bigbro> There are issues with the way Flash is licensed, which precludes Ubuntu from packaging it and making it readily available in the same way it can make other packages available.
[03:51] <variant> cypruser: sudo apt-get install wine
[03:51] <braden__> hi there, im following the ipod Video encoding howto on the wiki, and when I run apt-get source ffmpeg it says that the package is not available.
[03:51] <scorp123> cypruser: can you point us to the homepage of that game? So we could check what it is all about?
[03:51] <qwer5> google it ;o
[03:51] <cypruser> scorp123: www.mapleglobal.com
[03:51] <jhowell> cypruser: thx
[03:51] <scorp123> braden__: your /etc/apt/sources.list is probably not complete
[03:52] <scorp123> braden__: you are probably missing some important repositories for all the multimedia stuff
[03:52] <braden__> scorp123: okay, ill see what else it needs
[03:52] <variant> lol it's only compatible with explorer
[03:52] <kitche> scorp123: don't both it only works in IE
[03:52] <Hansel> any page that requires me to use explorer is probably riddled with malware... I'll pass.
[03:52] <scorp123> Hansel: 100% agree
[03:52] <timfrost> braden__: For each line in /etc/apt/sources.list that starts 'apt ', you need another that starts
[03:53] <cypruser> I agree too but my sister is nagging me to install it.
[03:53] <timfrost> braden__: with 'apt-src' for the ources
[03:53] <scorp123> cypruser: to run Viruses under Linux please use VMware:  www.vmware.com ... 100% compatibility guaranteed :D
[03:53] <Hansel> hah.
[03:53] <cypruser> What's VMware?
[03:53] <qwer5> Virtual PC program thing
[03:53] <Hansel> I always keep a spare 20 gig partition for Windows games...
[03:53] <variant> cypruser: if the installer wont run under wine you will have to try somthing else
[03:54] <scorp123> cypruser: .... just kidding of course .D
[03:54] <timfrost> braden__:  Soprry 'deb' and 'deb-src'
[03:54] <scorp123> ;)
[03:54] <braden__> timfrost: okay, ill try that
[03:54] <braden__> scorp123: I uncommented most of the lines and get this now:
[03:54] <scorp123> Joke for all .... How to Make Windows Fast and Stable: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vfWwRxumuQ
[03:54] <braden__> E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/ca.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper_universe_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)
[03:55] <scorp123> braden__: are you sure you did this correctly??
[03:55] <braden__> scorp123: I just uncommented other repositories
[03:55] <scorp123> braden__: Hmmmm
[03:56] <aspiringuser> Hello Gang, I'm running ubuntu on vmplayer, but my resolution is 800*600, I'd like to change it to widescreen
[03:56] <aspiringuser> where is this setting, isn't it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[03:56] <cypruser> How do I run Internet Explorer on Ubuntu?
[03:56] <braden__> scorp123: could i just say download the sources myself?
[03:56] <scorp123> cypruser: CrossOver Office
[03:56] <tannerld> I need some help installing ubuntu on my new computer.
[03:57] <cypruser> Don't I have to pay for CrossOver Office? I'm too poor.
[03:57] <scorp123> braden__: why do you need the sources?
[03:57] <timfrost> braden__: Run 'sudo apt-get update' to retrieve the lists, then run 'sudo apt-get build-dep  ffmpeg', then 'apt-get source  ffmpeg' (builds-dep will install packages needed to build (rather than run) ffmpeg
[03:57] <Motoko-chan> cypruser, play with Wine to get it working then.
[03:57] <braden__> scorp123: Im following the iPodVideo encoding howto
[03:57] <scorp123> cypruser: Then use VMware ... there is a version that you can get for free.
[03:57] <variant> cypruser: there is an installer for wine
[03:57] <Motoko-chan> It isn't easy.
[03:57] <variant> cypruser: it's very easy
[03:57] <variant> cypruser: comes with flash9 too
[03:57] <Motoko-chan> variant, WINE is easy, getting IE to run on it isn't (last I tried)
[03:57] <scorp123> variant: But WINE won't run most of those stupid binariy plugins for MSIE I think ...
[03:58] <braden__> scorp123: wait, i forgot to run apt-get update
[03:58] <gamerjdaweg> im running edgy live right now but i have no sound:( can someone help me????
[03:58] <variant> Motoko-chan: yes it is
[03:58] <tannerld> when starting x on my new computer I get "Fatal server error: no screens found". how can I fix that as I have two monitors?
[03:58] <braden__> timfrost: thanks for the help
[03:58] <Motoko-chan> Must have improved since I last tried.
[03:58] <cypruser> Thanks for all the help.
[03:58] <adaptr> tannerld: the config was not successful then - note that a "screen" is not a monitor ;-)
[03:58] <adaptr> tannerld: it actually means a graphics device, i.e. a video card
[03:58] <tannerld> adaptr: ah
[03:59] <tannerld> adaptr: reconfigure x or something?
[03:59] <adaptr> tannerld: yes, did you just install ubuntu ?
[03:59] <tannerld> yes
[03:59] <tannerld> adaptr: yes
[03:59] <adaptr> okay, you may want to list your video card and monitor make & model, and open up the xorg config file
[04:00] <tannerld> I don't know the video card type yet. :\
[04:00] <gRaCiOsO> how can i test the webcam in ubuntu?
[04:00] <variant> Motoko-chan: scorp123: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page
[04:01] <variant> Motoko-chan: scorp123: that installs ie4/5/6 and flash9 under wine.. automatic script that works excelently. there is good progress on ie7 too
[04:01] <wastrel> ubunto
[04:01] <scorp123> variant: Interesting. Thanks for the link. Added to bookmarks ...
[04:01] <variant> scorp123: usefull for web dev
[04:01] <tannerld> adaptr: I don't know the video card type yet. :\
[04:02] <scorp123> variant: absolutely :)
[04:03] <gRaCiOsO> how can i test a webcam in ubuntu?
[04:03] <gamerjdaweg> i have no sound from my speakers:(, im running ubuntu 6.10 from my cd/dvd drive, how do i get sound????
[04:03] <adaptr> tannerld: how could you not ? surely you installed it into the computer ?
[04:03] <GlutenBoy> Help! My printer don't doesn't work anymore! Was working last week...LaserJet 1020
[04:03] <scorp123> GlutenBoy: HP?
[04:03] <tannerld> adaptr: ..... yes
[04:03] <GlutenBoy> yes
[04:03] <adaptr> tannerld: I take it you're in a console window now, then
[04:03] <tannerld> adaptr: yep
[04:04] <scorp123> GlutenBoy: should work out of the box ... Most HP printers do.
[04:04] <adaptr> tannerld: very well... the video card part is rather easy, just run "lspci" and pick it out of the list
[04:04] <ja> Version 0.6.0 of GnomeBaker is fairly buggy. What CD/DVD burning software are people using at the moment?
[04:04] <scorp123> ja: k3b
[04:04] <variant> ja: k3b
[04:04] <ja> Even in Gnome?
[04:04] <scorp123> yes
[04:04] <variant> ja: ye
[04:04] <tannerld> adaptr: "VGA compatible controller: ATI technologies inc"
[04:04] <scorp123> I don't even use GNOME ... ha ha ha :=
[04:05] <scorp123> =)
[04:05] <GlutenBoy> scorp123 it did, now when I send job I see them in the job queue it even says "printing" but nothing happens on the printer weird.
[04:05] <ja> Okay. I was hoping for something nicely intergrated with the desktop. Thanks, I'll get K3B.
[04:05] <adaptr> tannerld: okay, now have a look in the xorg config file to see what it thinks
[04:05] <variant> ja: there is a nautilus plugin i thought..
[04:06] <scorp123> GlutenBoy: and you are sure the printer is connected, not in standby mode or something?
[04:06] <tannerld> adaptr: Section screen?
[04:06] <idigital> Im having an error on my volume . it say "volume control elements and/or devices found"
[04:06] <variant> GlutenBoy: sounds like you need to clear the print que
[04:06] <adaptr> tannerld: no, section Device
[04:06] <gRaCiOsO> how can i test a webcam in ubuntu?
[04:07] <idigital> mines is  Multimedia audio controller: Rockwell International: Unknown device
[04:07] <tannerld> adaptr: ATI Technologies, Inc. ATI default card
[04:07] <idigital> anyone would like to help me?
[04:07] <wayward> gRaCi0s0, plug it in and kickstart Ekiga
[04:07] <wayward> gRaCi0s0, or try with Camorama
[04:07] <GlutenBoy> variant I did clear the print queue didn't help
[04:07] <adaptr> tannerld: the DRIVER name
[04:07] <tannerld> adaptr: ati
[04:07] <ja> variant: Ill check it out, but GnomeBaker came with the install of Edgy.
[04:08] <adaptr> okay, and what does the log file say about it ? I know it ends with fatal error and it dies, but what does it say before that ?
[04:08] <ja> This is my first time using Gnome in about 4 years. I love it, in theory, but KDE is a lot more robust.
[04:08] <adaptr> tannerld: less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:08] <idigital> what is the sudo for kdm update?
[04:08] <adaptr> idigital: sudo rm -rf /
[04:08] <adaptr> sjeez
[04:08] <GlutenBoy> scorp123: is there a deamon, driver I could reinstall?
[04:09] <tannerld> adaptr: looking for...?
[04:09] <adaptr> "what is de sudo"
[04:09] <jairomefu> alguna colombiana
[04:09] <adaptr> tannerld: looking for the first occurence of an error [EE]  before it crashes
[04:09] <Riyonuk> Is there an option to make all desktop icons small>
[04:09] <wayward> a quick question: does xchat-gnome from Edgy repositores come with DCC server patch?
[04:09] <tannerld> adaptr: (EE) No devices detected.
[04:09] <scorp123> GlutenBoy: you could try to remove the printer from your printer settings and try to add it again.
[04:09] <gamerjdaweg> no sound from my speakers:(
[04:10] <wayward> Riyonuk, only if you decrease the overall size of icons
[04:10] <variant> Riyonuk: for some reason it is linked to the size of icons in the file browser so if you shrink those then the desktop icons shrink to
[04:10] <adaptr> tannerld: then it probably failed to address your ati card with  the default ati driver module... you really need to find out which one it is
[04:10] <GlutenBoy> scorp123: I did that too :(
[04:10] <scorp123> GlutenBoy: other than that I think there is maybe a problem with connectivity ...
[04:10] <wayward> Nautilus doesn't have a separate key for that
[04:10] <Riyonuk> file browser?
[04:10] <wayward> yup
[04:10] <wayward> Edit/Preferences.../
[04:10] <tannerld> adaptr: hmm
[04:10] <adaptr> tannerld: try lshw, or lspci -v for more info
[04:10] <variant> tannerld: what kind of card is it?
[04:10] <tannerld> variant: ati
[04:10] <thorian> Hi people
[04:10] <scorp123> GlutenBoy: is the printer connected directly to your machine or is it a network printer?
[04:11] <adaptr> tannerld: I still say you're retarded for not knowing to the friggin serial number what card you put in your computer :)
[04:11] <Riyonuk> variant, I dont quite understand
[04:11] <variant> tannerld: i mean model number, integrated or pci/pcie
[04:11] <adaptr> tannerld: okay, maybe I don't know the serial number.. but I do know the nature and version of all of my hardware
[04:11] <variant> Riyonuk: to change the default size of desktop icons you have to resize the icons in the file manager (it's stupid I know)
[04:11] <thorian> I have a problem concerning the "Open with" dialog
[04:12] <Riyonuk> variant, whats the file manager?
[04:12] <tannerld> adaptr: I'm not that geeky
[04:12] <SurfnSanta> hello
[04:12] <variant> Riyonuk: the same thing as "my computer" on windows
[04:12] <SurfnSanta> I have a problem with mounting an NTFS USB device
[04:12] <wy> Hello all
[04:12] <SurfnSanta> how exactly would I mount it?
[04:12] <SurfnSanta> it shows up in /dev
[04:12] <tannerld> adaptr: Its either a V7200 or V3400
[04:12] <variant> SurfnSanta: plug it in
[04:12] <Riyonuk> variant, well. where exactly is that..
[04:12] <adaptr> tannerld: I didn;t expect you to be, but if you put in the video card yourself, odds are it came in a box, and that had some letters on it :)
[04:12] <SurfnSanta> variant, its NTFS
[04:12] <thorian> No matter what application I choose to open the file, even if i type the command in, it returns a strange error and does not start the application
[04:12] <adaptr> tannerld: those would be nvidia cards
[04:13] <variant> SurfnSanta: if your using gnome on edgy/dapper it should be automatically mounted
[04:13] <SurfnSanta> variant, it shows up in /dev and /media
[04:13] <variant> SurfnSanta: that makes no difference
[04:13] <wayward> SurfnSanta, it should mount automatically; if it doesn't, try  $ sudo mount /dev/<device> /mnt -t ntfs
[04:13] <variant> SurfnSanta: then it is mounted in /media
[04:13] <wy> Things are getting weird with things like udev. I don't know how to control them now. Anyone can tell me how to set the charset for a usbdisk's file system?
[04:13] <SurfnSanta> variant, yeah thats the prob it mounts it but doesnt actually let me access it, it disconnects the session to it
[04:13] <SurfnSanta> ahh
[04:13] <earthen> what is the best way to test you video driver to make sure that it's running well
[04:13] <variant> SurfnSanta: what?
[04:13] <SurfnSanta> wayward, let me try that
[04:13] <Riyonuk> variant, Places > Computer?
[04:13] <variant> Riyonuk: yes
[04:13] <thorian> This is in portuguese, but in English, it says something like "Unable to add the application to the application database"
[04:13] <Answer> Hello.  I have a strange problem fixing ssh without a password.  It had been working but now always asks for a password.  I have regenerated and setup authorized_keys but the server will not accept keys from any client, it just asks for a password.  Anybody familiar with ssh keys?
[04:13] <adaptr> earthen: install beryl, that'll do it
[04:13] <wayward> SurfnSanta, if it is already mounted then no need to :)
[04:13] <variant> wy: you can set a udev rule, it's quite fun
[04:13] <SurfnSanta> wayward, i had that problem before
[04:14] <Riyonuk> variant, Ok, what exactly do I change?
[04:14] <tannerld> adaptr: hmm, on dells website it saysATITM  FireGLTM  V7200 256MB, Mid range to High-end or ATITM  FireGLTM  V3400 128MB, Entry
[04:14] <tannerld> adaptr: not sure which one I have
[04:14] <tannerld> adaptr: (got as a x-mas gift)
[04:14] <scorp123> Answer: maybe there is something wrong with your permissions?
[04:14] <thorian> Has anyone ever run nto a problem like this?
[04:14] <adaptr> tannerld: then enter the PC ID on the dell sticker and see....
[04:14] <gamerjdaweg> no GStreamer and/or devices found???? what the heck does that mean?????
[04:14] <kitche> Answer: it seems like the server is setup to just use password or something
[04:14] <wayward> SurfnSanta, how exactly does it disconnect when you try to access it>
[04:14] <wy> variant: Can you tell me how to set it? I just want to set it to a chinese charset, say cp936
[04:14] <earthen> adaptr: LOL that is what i'm trying to do actully but i'm having problems so I'm trying to make sure that my video drivers are ok first
[04:14] <SurfnSanta> wayward, where the device is visible but after 3 or 4 seconds it logically disconnects tho its physically connected, i think its because no command was issued (this is on NTFS) I believe FAT and FAT16 mount automatically
[04:14] <variant> Answer: do you have the correct public keys installed? they have to match that which is stored on the server
[04:14] <adaptr> tannerld: you can track any Dell ever sold that way
[04:14] <Answer> scorp123: ok I have tried setting authorized_keys to 0600 and 0644, what permissions can I check
[04:14] <SurfnSanta> wayward, i run tail -f /var/log/messages and says connected then suddenly says disconnected
[04:14] <wayward> SurfnSanta, let's try the manual method
[04:15] <wayward> SurfnSanta, mount it from the command line then try to ls the contents
[04:15] <Riyonuk> variant, Im lost T_T
[04:15] <scorp123> Answer: wait let me check how it looks on one of my systems ...
[04:15] <Answer> kitche: yes I have tried setting it to use keys with sshd_config, and I can see in -vvv that it does ssh_key_exchange etc
[04:15] <variant> wy: I never used it to set the charset.. I don't know. take a look in /etc/udev/ rules dir
[04:15] <tannerld> adaptr: hmm
[04:15] <blazemonger> i got this when installing kunbutu-desktop "errors were encountered while processing"
[04:15] <matju> how do i disable events in bash? (special use of the "!" character)
[04:15] <SurfnSanta> wayward, yes thats what im gonna do with that command hang on
[04:15] <blazemonger> then i did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop then it completed..wierd
[04:15] <kitche> Answer: or the sshd is setup to use keys with password that's how I have mine set up actually
[04:15] <blazemonger> is this a serious prob?
[04:16] <Answer> variant: yes the keys were all setup previous to today, and I also tried making a new key, reinstalling the ssh package with apt-get, and upgrading all of the packages.
[04:16] <Riyonuk> wayward, what do you mean "decrease the overall size of icons"?
[04:16] <variant> Answer: if you made a new set of keys you have to isntall the public key on the other computer
[04:16] <Answer> kitche: ok yes the sshd_config was very confusing...
[04:16] <blazemonger> how serious was that error message?
[04:16] <Answer> variant: yes I installed the new keys.  I also reverted to a tape backup from friday.  it seems like the server always asks for password..
[04:16] <variant> Answer: if the first method fails then ssh falls back to whatever methods it hasn't tried yet (keyboard interactive auth)
[04:16] <earthen> anyone know how o run the gears screen saver so that it shows the FPS
[04:16] <blazemonger> "Errors were encountered while processing"
[04:17] <variant> Answer: did you check the ssh config file?
[04:17] <blazemonger> what ssh config file? for doing apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?
[04:17] <variant> earthen: type man glxgears, it is quite clear on how to do it
[04:17] <scorp123> blazemonger: he wasn't talking to you
[04:17] <adaptr> blazemonger: is anyone talking to you ?
[04:17] <wayward> Riyonuk, I mean the size of all the icons that are shown in Icon View.  That you can set under Edit/Preferences...  of any file browser window
[04:17] <tannerld> adaptr: CARD (CIRCUIT), GRAPHICS, 128, NVS, 285, ULGA was in the original sys conf @ dell
[04:18] <scorp123> there is one guy who has the confusing nick "Answer" ... hence the misunderstanding :-)
[04:18] <gRaCiOsO> how can i test a webcam in ubuntu?
[04:18] <earthen> variant: I get no manual entry for glxgears
[04:18] <adaptr> tannerld: okay, then that would be the V3400, obviously
[04:18] <wayward> gRaCiOsO, I already answered you above
[04:18] <variant> wayward: if you set the size in the file maanger then the desktop icons will be changed also, they are hard coded as being linked so you cant have large file manager icons and small desktop icons unfortunatly
[04:18] <tannerld> adaptr: ok, so now what?
[04:18] <variant> earthen: glxgears --help
[04:18] <wayward> variant, yes, I do believe that is the only way to change the size of desktop icons
[04:18] <Riyonuk> ok
[04:18] <Riyonuk> woah
[04:18] <blazemonger> what you think happened?
[04:18] <Riyonuk> wtf
[04:18] <adaptr> tannerld: check (google) on the ubuntu forums for that ati card, see if there are any issues with it that people know about
[04:18] <wayward> variant, alas
[04:18] <Riyonuk> it looks horrible
[04:19] <gRaCiOsO> wayward,  did u tell me about easycam ?
[04:19] <gRaCiOsO> it dosnt work
[04:19] <adaptr> !forums | tannerld
[04:19] <ubotu> tannerld: The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.
[04:19] <blazemonger> when i did apt-get kubuntu-install and got"errors  were encoutnered while processing"
[04:19] <blazemonger> at the end
[04:19] <blazemonger> how can i find the error ?
[04:19] <Sir_Fawnpug> What's a good wireless LAN manager?
[04:19] <variant> gRaCiOsO: try gtkam
[04:19] <adaptr> blazemonger: in your apt log file ?
[04:19] <blazemonger> wheres that located at
[04:19] <Answer> variant: yes hold on let me get the message =  debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password,keyboard-interactive
[04:19] <wayward> gRaCiOsO, webcams are a notorious exemplar of badly-supported hardware under Linux
[04:19] <earthen> variant: that doesn't work eather :(
[04:19] <Jimerson> Anyone familiar with G5 iMac networks problems running 6.10?
[04:19] <Viaken> Sir_Fawnpug: NetworkManager works well for me, but some haven't been so lucky.
[04:19] <scorp123> gRaCiOsO: go to this page and find out if your camera is even supported: http://www.linux-drivers.org/
[04:20] <wayward> gRaCiOsO, you'll want to look for a driver for your webcam
[04:20] <Sir_Fawnpug> Viaken, ahh, right now I'm using network-admin but then agian, I'm still on Dapper
[04:20] <variant> Answer: it really sounds like the public key that the server has stored is not stored on the client that is connecting to it
[04:20] <blazemonger> wheres the apt log file at?
[04:20] <variant> Answer: on the server try running "ssh localhost"
[04:20] <gamerjdaweg> i cant get any sound from ubuntu 6.10 "edgy" live cd, i get error "No volume control GStreamer plugins and or devices found".
[04:20] <gRaCiOsO> wayward,  well i think i have installed the driver only i wanna see if it works
[04:20] <variant> Answer: that should work
[04:21] <adaptr> blazemonger: /var/log/dpkg.log is a good place to start....
[04:21] <blanko> anyone know a good way to dual boot ubuntu 6.10 on a pc with win xp?
[04:21] <Viaken> Sir_Fawnpug: I used it on Dapper, but it seemed to work better in Edgy.
[04:21] <scorp123> Answer: could you please change your nick? It's confusing like hell :-)
[04:21] <wayward> gRaCiOsO, try gtkam, camorama or ekiga
[04:21] <Viaken> Then I upgraded to Feisty and it stopped booting. XD
[04:21] <Sir_Fawnpug> And right now it's hung trying to load my profile, presumably because I just got my wireless working and there's not a valid network in there
[04:21] <gRaCiOsO> wayward,  thanks
[04:21] <wayward> gRaCiOsO, actually I think gtkam is for importing images from digital cameras
[04:21] <Sir_Fawnpug> Viaken, I might upgrade to edgy after I get this working; I heard there have been growing pains that have hosed systems during the upgrade though
[04:21] <adaptr> blazemonger: now would be an excellent time to investigate *and* ask questions.. slowly progressing, of course, to investigating *before* asking questions
[04:21] <Answer> variant: ssh@localhost asks for a password.  I can do  cat ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys and it still asks me for a password
[04:21] <blazemonger> got a few half-configured file
[04:22] <gRaCiOsO> so camorama?
[04:22] <variant> Answer: also, use ssh with -v when you try to connect, it will give yo a load of usefull debug info
[04:22] <wayward> gRaCiOsO, yeah, or Ekiga
[04:22] <Answer> variant: -vvv triple verbose level 3 debug
[04:22] <adaptr> blazemonger: that's normal - as long as they are followed by "installed" packages
[04:22] <wayward> gRaCiOsO, Ekiga comes standard with your desktop
[04:22] <jughead>  /j #mepis
[04:22] <Riyonuk> How would I go about installing this?
[04:22] <Riyonuk> http://art.gnome.org/themes/gtk2/1317
[04:22] <Sir_Fawnpug> Then again I've read that having wired ethernet screws up wireless too
[04:22] <adaptr> blazemonger: if dpkg doesn't think anything went wrong, then you probably shouldn't either
[04:22] <factboy818181> blanko: defrag windows - are you using alternate or desktop cd?
[04:23] <blazemonger>  status half-configured libksieve0 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1
[04:23] <wayward> anyone using X-Chat-gnome?
[04:23] <adaptr> blazemonger: and it never shows it as installed ?
[04:23] <Viaken> Sir_Fawnpug: NetworkManager disables wireless when you plug in wired.
[04:23] <Viaken> By default, anyway. I'm sure there's a way to disable that.
[04:23] <blazemonger> its installed now though
[04:23] <Answer> variant: so could it be the sshd_config file?  I copied one from another machine that accepts keys and still nothing
[04:24] <blazemonger> after i retried apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:24] <blazemonger> i wonder if 6.10 is buggy
[04:24] <scorp123> Answer: you shouldn't really touch sshd_config ... except maybe disable root logins, the rest is more or less good as it is.
[04:24] <adaptr> blazemonger: probably some unthought-of before <-0> after dependency
[04:24] <adaptr> blazemonger: have you tried it yet ? log in to KDE ?
[04:25] <scorp123> blazemonger: well, which software isn't :)
[04:25] <Sir_Fawnpug> Viaken, ahh, well I'll research it
[04:25] <blazemonger> it'l prob work
[04:25] <Sir_Fawnpug> I assume it's a daemon of some kind.
[04:25] <kitche> scorp123: he has to touch it to do key logins
[04:25] <variant> Answer: I just don't think you have the same public key on the client as you do on the serverf
[04:25] <blanko> i am using desktop
[04:25] <blazemonger> so if it does work that eans i have nothing to worry about?
[04:25] <scorp123> kitche: well ... I didn't have to.
[04:25] <adaptr> scorp123: disagree here - rather strongly; if this ssh is in any way accessible form the Internet, I would *always* set Allowed Users
[04:25] <KristjanS> hey, i've got a blue laptop indicator which shows the volume/brightness level etc... it works
[04:26] <Viaken> Sir_Fawnpug: A daemon and an applet.
[04:26] <scorp123> adaptr: that's what firewalls are for.
[04:26] <Answer> variant: ok but I just scp'ed the client key to the server and added it to authorized_keys
[04:26] <KristjanS> fine under windows, but in linux it's real blurred and if i move my cursor it sticks
[04:26] <variant> scorp123: he is setting up key based logins.. really essential to modify the config in this case
[04:26] <adaptr> scorp123: erm.. no, they're not
[04:26] <Some_Person> ok, i need instructions, my ubuntu 6.10 cd wont boot, but 6.06 cd will, i have 2 disk drives, how can i install 6.10 while booted to the 6.06 cd?
[04:26] <variant> Answer: so scp worked?
[04:26] <blazemonger> what alll bugs should i be weary of in packages
[04:26] <Answer> variant: yes but it asked for pw
[04:26] <Sir_Fawnpug> Viaken, ahh, I see.
[04:26] <variant> Answer: ah, odd
[04:26] <kitche> Answer: did you restart sshd also?
[04:27] <variant> Answer: what is the output of ssh -v user@host
[04:27] <Answer> variant: the keys have all been setup for months that is what I do not understand.
[04:27] <variant> kitche: wont make a difference
[04:27] <KristjanS> hey, i've got a blue laptop indicator (on top left screen) which shows the volume/brightness level etc (pops up for a while when changed).. it works
[04:27] <scorp123> adaptr: yes, they are. With firewalls you block stuff you don't want in your internal network. SSH login attempts for example. Only certain IP ranges can pass. But we're going OT here.
[04:27] <Answer> kitche: /etc/init.d/ssh restart ?  I also rebooted the machine
[04:27] <KristjanS> fine under windows but not under linux
[04:27] <adaptr> scorp123: that is not what I said, was it ?
[04:27] <KristjanS> it looks pixelated and sticks to my cursor for a while when i move it
[04:28] <KristjanS> (it = the cursor)
[04:28] <rc-1> trying to use wine to install http://www.thief-interface.com/, but it gives error saying cannot extract "", im lost :(
[04:28] <brunosilva> hi
[04:28] <Some_Person> does anyone know how?
[04:29] <factboy818181> rc-1: have you checked AppDB?  http://appdb.winehq.com i think
[04:29] <rc-1> Some_Person, i think there might be internet installation
[04:29] <kitche> !mini|Some_Person
[04:29] <ubotu> Some_Person: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[04:29] <rc-1> Some_Person, you do MD5 on the 610?
[04:29] <Some_Person> yes, its fine
[04:30] <wastrel> if the edgy livecd won't boot, would the minimal cd boot?
[04:30] <adaptr> Some_Person: clarify "won't boot"
[04:30] <Z_Morek> is it possible to break sudo?
[04:30] <kitche> Z_Morek: yes
[04:30] <orangefly> i am having trouble connecting to my proftpd server at work from home....i have forwarded the port on the main router....can anyone help....???....
[04:30] <Z_Morek> and without sudo how does one fix sudo?
[04:30] <Some_Person> ok, i select a menu option (reg and safe both do same thing)
[04:30] <variant> Z_Morek: with a live cd
[04:30] <adaptr> Z_Morek: of course - sudo rm `which sudo`
[04:30] <Some_Person> i see logo and progress bar
[04:30] <rc-1> factboy818181, its not there, its a uncommon app
[04:30] <adaptr> Z_Morek: boot in single user mode
[04:30] <Some_Person> then i get a blinking underscore
[04:30] <rc-1> factboy818181, thanks for the site tho its good :)
[04:30] <Some_Person> nothing then happens
[04:30] <scorp123> Some_Person: maybe your CD drive doesn't like the media? I too sometimes have weird troubles with certain brands in certain drives.
[04:31] <Z_Morek> oooh...
[04:31] <Some_Person> only one cd drive will read cd-r's
[04:31] <Z_Morek> but do I have permissions to change the init.tab
[04:31] <Some_Person> the other one is screwed up with that
[04:31] <adaptr> Some_Person: did you boot it with the same drive you burned it with ?
[04:31] <Some_Person> yes
[04:31] <factboy818181> rc-1: wine only works for certain apps, hope i helped you in some small way :D
[04:31] <Some_Person> its a usb cd drive, if that matters
[04:32] <adaptr> Z_Morek: there is no need to do that, just select "rescue" mode or some such, or edit the kernel boot line and append "single" to the end
[04:32] <kitche> Some_Person: hmm that might
[04:32] <Answer> variant, kitche, scorp123: output of ssh -vvv localhost  =  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38963/
[04:32] <adaptr> Some_Person: ahhh... won't work very well in the best of circumstances, then
[04:32] <Opera34> I installed XGL and Beryl but I get these erroprs when I try to startup the XGL session: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38964/
[04:32] <variant> Answer: try regenerating all the key files
[04:33] <|amicraw|> hey guys i saw a new gui  on some bodys laptop the other day it was a 3d gui
[04:33] <Some_Person> i can boot the 6.06 in my other drive (its from shipit, so cd-r issue is irrelevent) (havent tested in usb drive), so i mightbe able to install it through that
[04:33] <kitche> |amicraw|: called beryl or compiz
[04:33] <cypruser> Where does Firefox save its downloads by default?
[04:33] <|amicraw|> they called it barrel is that right
[04:33] <scorp123> cypruser: on your desktop :)
[04:33] <au_> hi all..how can I get to know which Ubuntu version is used on a computer? I need a quick, command line tool..uname -a doesn't say this
[04:33] <au_> hi all..how can I get to know which Ubuntu version is used on a computer? I need a quick, command line tool..uname -a doesn't say this
[04:33] <kitche> |amicraw|: beryl is right, sounds the samea s barrel
[04:33] <kitche> !repeat|au_
[04:33] <ubotu> au_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:34] <Some_Person> how could you not know?
[04:34] <au_> kitche: soory, it was a mistake..
[04:34] <kitche> !version|au_ this
[04:34] <ubotu> au_ this: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[04:34] <|amicraw|> is it cool and can i it install it?
[04:34] <|amicraw|> what doi search for?
[04:34] <kitche> !beryl
[04:34] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[04:34] <tannerld> adaptr: I can't really find anything. :\
[04:34] <Some_Person> anyway, can i install 6.10 while booted to 6.06 cd?
[04:34] <adaptr> Answer: 096. debug1: Offering public key: /home/rugrat/.ssh/id_dsa --> you need to put your PRIVATE key there, I think
[04:34] <tripppy> !mythtv
[04:34] <ubotu> MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[04:34] <kitche> |amicraw|: on that forum it says how to they have their own ubuntu repo
[04:35] <|amicraw|> oh ok  never install xgl yet
[04:35] <kitche> |amicraw|: what video card you have?
[04:35] <adaptr> tannerld: let me see
[04:35] <|amicraw|> nvidia fx 7500
[04:35] <kitche> |amicraw|: you don't need XGL with an nvidia card
[04:35] <|amicraw|> oh
[04:36] <variant> adaptr: absolutly not
[04:36] <|amicraw|> i see it has 256MB on it
[04:36] <scorp123> kitche: he probably doesn't know the difference between XGL and AIGLX ;)
[04:36] <variant> adaptr: your private key stays where it is, you should never offer the private key only the public key
[04:36] <kitche> scorp123: that's ok with the nvidia driver you don't need either anyways
[04:36] <cypruser> I downloaded the VMware package. How do I install it?
[04:36] <variant> |amicraw|: just install beryl
[04:37] <scorp123> kitche: well ... you need AIGLX, but it's already there in the X.org package, at least on Edgy
[04:37] <blazemonger> i dont see any errors in my apt log file
[04:37] <|amicraw|> how do i install the gui ?
[04:37] <scorp123> kitche: and the new transparent cube is extremely cool :-)
[04:37] <blazemonger> but when doing apt-get install kubuntu-desktop it gave me error while processing
[04:37] <kitche> scorp123: well in ubuntu you do but if you get the unoffical driver you don't need either
[04:37] <adaptr> variant: oh, I thought it tried to authenticate there.. never mind, then
[04:37] <Answer> variant, adaptr, kitche, scorp123:  regenerated the keys, recreated authorized_keys, it still asks for password:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38966/
[04:37] <Cade> can anyone help me with setting up the RT73 wireless usb drivers from RALINK?
[04:37] <Some_Person> please, i really want 6.10, not 6.06, how can i install 6.10 while booted to the 6.06 cd?
[04:38] <Z_Morek> okay so sudo never performs an operation
[04:38] <Answer> Some_Person: download the correct install disc and use that
[04:38] <cypruser> Some_Person: You need to use the 6.10 CD.
[04:38] <Z_Morek> I attempted to reinstall
[04:38] <variant> adaptr: the public key is issued to those that you want to be able to log in, if they key somone has doesnt unlock the priv key then they don't  get in
[04:38] <blazemonger> what do i do to make sure everything's installede
[04:38] <cappicard> damn... i'm trying to remove my bloody bios password on my HP nc6230...
[04:38] <Some_Person> why is that?
[04:38] <timfrost> cypruser: If you downloaded a .tar.gz or .tgz file, untar it in /tmp, then run the install.pl script
[04:38] <kitche> Z_Morek: not really it just gives your user super rights to use it, sudo <command>
[04:38] <blazemonger> theres also some packages that FREEZE my machine like the game billard-gl
[04:38] <variant> cappicard: take out the bios battery on the motherboard for a few seconds
[04:38] <Z_Morek> lets say I did "sudo ls" like I did
[04:39] <Z_Morek> prompt pass
[04:39] <Z_Morek> then goes to a new commandline
[04:39] <variant> cappicard: that will reset it to factory default
[04:39] <cappicard> if I can get to the damn battery...
[04:39] <scorp123> kitche: you have a HowTo on that? I followed these instructions and got it working on my first attempt: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/AiGLX
[04:39] <Z_Morek> never lists anything
[04:39] <Opera34> Can anyone help me with this error ?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38964/
[04:39] <Z_Morek> someone else recommended I try sudo su
[04:39] <kitche> Z_Morek: yes probably because the directory that your in doesn't have files in it
[04:39] <adaptr> variant: erm.. no, you keep your private key to authenticate, and add your public key to the authorize_keys file on the server you want to log in *to*... surely
[04:39] <variant> cappicard: it's pretty big.. shouldnt be a problem
[04:39] <kitche> scorp123: HowTo to use unofficial driver?
[04:39] <Answer> variant, adaptr: the top of the pastbin shows where i regenerated the keys and made authorized_keys http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38966/  it still does not even work for localhost
[04:39] <blazemonger> what do i do if a program freezes my machinei thought linux was supposed to be more stable
[04:39] <cypruser> I have this really weird problem. My printer will only print if I change the local printer port. Whenever I want to print, I have to do that and it gets annoying.
[04:39] <Z_Morek> but it does
[04:39] <cappicard> i get to the point where I release my  touchpad, but I can't get it to release
[04:39] <adaptr> variant: you never *give* your keys to anyone for SSH as far as I know
[04:39] <variant> adaptr: the public key has to be on the server and the client
[04:40] <Some_Person> cypruser: why can it only be installed booted to the 6.10 cd?
[04:40] <kitche> Z_Morek: what does ls tell you without the sudo
[04:40] <Z_Morek> kitche sudo was working properly prior to this and at some point something went wrong
[04:40] <blazemonger> is it normal for packages to freeze ?
[04:40] <scorp123> kitche: yes, ... I'm just curious.
[04:40] <Z_Morek> if I were to use ls as a user
[04:40] <variant> adaptr: you can give your public key to anyone you like..
[04:40] <Z_Morek> I get 3 files
[04:40] <kitche> !nvidia9|scorp123 this tells you how to use it
[04:40] <ubotu> scorp123 this tells you how to use it: For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9746 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable
[04:40] <Z_Morek> I originally noticed this when I tried to do a reboot thru ssh
[04:40] <adaptr> variant: sure, but it is not necessary for SSH - it only has to be accessible to sshd
[04:40] <variant> adaptr: if you want to let them log in iwth key based authentication they need your public key
[04:40] <Z_Morek> "sudo reboot"
[04:40] <Z_Morek> didn't reboot
[04:40] <blazemonger> isn't linux supposed to be more stable than windows?
[04:40] <cypruser> Some_Person: It's because the 6.06 CD only contains the 6.06 version...
[04:40] <Cade> Z_Morek, "sudo shutdown -r now" will reboot
[04:40] <Some_Person> cypruser: i have the 6.10 cd, it just wont boot
[04:40] <adaptr> variant: "you" being... the server ?
[04:41] <Some_Person> cypruser: i have 2 drives
[04:41] <variant> adaptr: to log in with ssh key auth you NEED to give people that you want to let in the key.. thats why it's called a key
[04:41] <adaptr> variant: I've never used that with pubkey auth
[04:41] <Z_Morek> cade: that doesn't work either
[04:41] <Riyonuk> Whats the next resolution after 1024x1280?
[04:41] <Z_Morek> sudo is not operating normally
[04:41] <adaptr> variant: *which key* are you talking about
[04:41] <Hansel> 1280x1024 -> 1600x1200 probably
[04:41] <Some_Person> cypruser: i can boot to the 6.06 cd and mount the 6.10 cd, i just need to know how to run the installer
[04:41] <Cade> Z_Morek, it should... that's the proper cmmand :p
[04:41] <Sir_Fawnpug> 1600x1200
[04:41] <variant> adaptr: the public key
[04:41] <Sir_Fawnpug> Well, actually, there's a 1440x something aspect ratio
[04:41] <adaptr> variant: of which user ?
[04:41] <Answer> variant: you are correct that you must copy the pubkey from the client to the server.  let me point out that all of the keys have been setup and working for months
[04:41] <fbc> Anyone know how I can get my AC97 modem working?
[04:41] <variant> the client has to have the servers public key installed
[04:42] <Sir_Fawnpug> err, not aspect ratio
[04:42] <Z_Morek> I'll check sudoers maybe something got fubared
[04:42] <gouki> Guys, if you have a weblog and write about Ubuntu, visit ubuntuweblogs.org
[04:42] <Sir_Fawnpug> But resolution
[04:42] <Some_Person> fbc: its a conexant modem
[04:42] <adaptr> variant: that happens automatically the first time you log in with ANY method
[04:42] <Hansel> gouki - what if I don't?
[04:42] <variant> adaptr: no, then anyone would be able to login without a password
[04:42] <variant> ..
[04:42] <scorp123> kitche: I got that already. And you still use AIGLX as backend ;)
[04:42] <fbc> Some_Person:  YEah, I think so..
[04:42] <adaptr> variant: and it serves to authenticate the *server* to you - but has nothing to do with public key *user* authentication
[04:42] <Opera34> Beryl won't start, I get this "beryl: No composite extension"
[04:43] <kitche> scorp123: not really I turn mine off
[04:43] <gouki> Hansel: The typical troller!
[04:43] <kitche> scorp123: even the nvidia website says you don't need aiglx
[04:43] <variant> adaptr: i dont think we are talking about the same thing here
[04:43] <Some_Person> fbc: you're in bad luck. Linuxant is the only provider of drivers, and they aren't free
[04:43] <Hansel> gouki - does that make you a spammer if your website doesn't apply to me?
[04:43] <Hansel> I think so...
[04:43] <adaptr> variant: the exchange of the server's public key is what generates the initial "are you sure" message when you first connect
[04:43] <Answer> variant, adaptr:  I am trying to do what this website says in simplified form:  http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~ranga/notes/ssh_nopass.html
[04:43] <scorp123> kitche: hmmm ... interesting. So it runs directly on the nvidia drivers?? Cool. I will look into that.
[04:43] <gouki> Hansel: If you want to discuss this, please pvt me
[04:43] <fbc> Some_Person:  it's a ATI SB400 - AC'97 Modem Controller
[04:43] <blazemonger> why does billard-gl crash on my system?!?
[04:44] <kitche> scorp123: aiglx and XGL supplies that pixmap extension but the nvidia driver has that now
[04:44] <Hansel> gouki - how about we dont discuss at all because you were spamming.  Unless somebody specifically asks about a community of webbloggers for Ubuntu there is no need to paste it in the channel... nuff said.
[04:44] <Answer> adaptr: the "are you sure" message is because of the client's known_hosts file.  after that, to login without a password the client sends the pubkey to the server.
[04:44] <variant> adaptr: yes, and if the server doesnt have the clients public key then it wont let them log in..
[04:44] <variant> adaptr: i think i actualy said the reverse a while back
[04:44] <Some_Person> fbc: are you in windows?
[04:44] <scorp123> kitche: OK, I see ....
[04:44] <variant> adaptr: i am not talking about pasword logins here
[04:44] <adaptr> variant: I thought we were talking about logging in a s a user over SSH with a public key auth - which is accomplished with the server having the users' public key
[04:44] <cypruser> I have this really weird problem. My printer will only print if I change the local printer port. Whenever I want to print, I have to do that and it gets annoying. I'm using a HP LaserJet 1100.
[04:45] <variant> adaptr: yes!!!
[04:45] <nny> hey trying to help someone get a laptop working, running out of ideas, host bridge and other parts of the mob chipset seem unsupported in the latest edgy
[04:45] <Answer> adaptr: I want to do this:  http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~ranga/notes/ssh_nopass.html
[04:45] <fbc> Some_Person:  Nope ubuntu...
[04:45] <nny> hers a link to the details http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=325610
[04:45] <adaptr> Not with anybody having the servers' public key - anybody who succesfully connects to it will have that
[04:45] <blujay> kitche: do you get better performance without aiglx?  (I assume you're talking about Beryl...)
[04:45] <kitche> blujay: don't know I never ran aiglx
[04:45] <Some_Person> fbc: ok, run the ScanModem tool
[04:45] <Answer> nny: is it new hardware or old hardware?
[04:45] <variant> adaptr: i ment the server needs to have the public key of the client.. i think i said the reverse a momment ago
[04:45] <blujay> kitche: what version of Beryl are you using?
[04:45] <adaptr> variant: you have said the reverse in many different ways now.. please stop torturing yourself
[04:46] <variant> adaptr: it is 03:50 here.. :)
[04:46] <kitche> blujay: the latest, and older version I ran all of them so far
[04:46] <nny> Answer new hardware, see here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=325610
[04:46] <blujay> kitche: cool, thanks
[04:46] <timfrost> Answer: what are the permissions on your home directory and .ssh directory (ls -ld ~ ~/.ssh)?  In particular, can either be written to by other users?
[04:46] <adaptr> variant: pubkey auth in SSH is as follows: YOU upload YOUR pubkey to the server, and the server encrypts a cookie with it, that you have to decrypt with your privkey.. you then send the cookie back, and you're in
[04:46] <cypruser> How do I execute .pl files?
[04:46] <Answer> nny: new hardware might be better supported in fiesty
[04:46] <adaptr> variant: it is 4:46 here.. so ?
[04:46] <ELpH95o> man my machine froze after i ran billard-gl
[04:46] <ELpH95o> damnit it ran perfect in ubunt u 6.01
[04:46] <kitche> adaptr: I m just wondering if it's asking for his key password?
[04:46] <ELpH95o> 6.06 i mean
[04:47] <fbc> Some_Person:  The command line says it can't with scanmodem
[04:47] <gRaCiOsO> im trying to test my webcam with camorama and it shows me this when i try (camorama:28815): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[04:47] <gRaCiOsO> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed. someone know why?
[04:47] <variant> adaptr: thats kinda what I was trying to explain.. well googled explanation
[04:47] <nny> Answer, considered that, if not by the kernel, than is there a way to try restricted modules or new modules not released in Edgy?
[04:47] <adaptr> kitche: yes, it is - as I posted a while back, his output of ssh vvv shows that the *client* is trying to auth with a pubkey - which cannot happen
[04:47] <Some_Person> cypruser: i just need to know how to run the installer for 6.10 through the 6.06 cd, i can have both cds in my computer, 6.10 cd mounted
[04:47] <nny> Answer, he just downloaded and tried 6.10
[04:47] <Answer> timfrost: I set the ~/.ssh directory to 0700 as suggested,  drwx------
[04:47] <ELpH95o> why did billard-gl crash my box??!
[04:47] <ELpH95o> ubuntu's giving me headaches as a newbie
[04:47] <adaptr> kitche: he put the wrong key in the authorized_keys file
[04:48] <ELpH95o> i need a newbie linux
[04:48] <Hansel> ELpH95o - Ubuntu is about as noob as it gets...
[04:48] <cypruser> Some_Person: I would suggest you browse the CD and look for the installation program.
[04:48] <adaptr> ELpH95o: Ubuntu is about as newbie-friendly as you;re going to see without paying for it....
[04:48] <kitche> adaptr: ok I wasn't really looking at his pastes since my gpm is not working right this moment
[04:48] <fbc> Some_Person:  Where do I find the scanmodem tool?
[04:48] <Some_Person> cypruser: ok
[04:48] <nny> Answer I guess a better way is to see if there are notes in regards t this hardware somewhere
[04:49] <gRaCiOsO> im trying to test my webcam with camorama and it shows me this when i try (camorama:28815): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[04:49] <Answer> adaptr: see the top of this pastebin  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38966/ where I regenerated the keys and then on line 25  025. rugrat@yoda:~/.ssh$ cat id_dsa.pub >> authorized_keys  yet ssh localhost still asks for a password
[04:49] <gRaCiOsO> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed. someone know why?
[04:49] <Some_Person> !modem
[04:49] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[04:49] <Some_Person> ubotu, tell fbc about modems
[04:49] <Riyonuk> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Edgyeft.png -- How would I go about making mine like that?
[04:49] <GenNMX> gRaCiOsO: camorama has a hotness factor in its authentication ;)
[04:49] <Answer> nny: the ubuntu wiki has hardware compatibilty
[04:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about modems - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:49] <scorp123> ELpH95o: try Mandriva ... that might be more suitable for you. It's super-duper newbie-friendly. I installed it for a few friends who thought that Ubuntu was still too difficult.
[04:50] <gRaCiOsO> hmm
[04:50] <ELpH95o> mandriva takes up too many cd's
[04:50] <kitche> Answer: you sure it's not your key passphrase it's asking for?
[04:50] <ELpH95o> well i find ubuntu easy but it freezes though
[04:50] <m12> anyone know the mplayer shortcut to make the picture expand to fit the screen in full-screen mode?
[04:50] <ELpH95o> i need something stable
[04:50] <blujay> Riyonuk: could you be more specific?
[04:50] <ELpH95o> linux shouldnt freeze up
[04:50] <dettoaltrimenti_> what's the problem with ubuntu, ELpH95o?
[04:50] <danielmarsom> how do i install KDE on normal ubuntu offline? (i have the kubuntu CD)
[04:50] <ELpH95o> some programs crash my machine or they dont work or they freeze
[04:50] <ELpH95o> like 8 programs so far
[04:50] <ELpH95o> have frozen
[04:51] <scorp123> ELpH95o: no, just one DVD :-)
[04:51] <ELpH95o> i dont have a dvd writer
[04:51] <ELpH95o> :(
[04:51] <Answer> kitche: I regenerated the keys and hit enter when prompted for hte passphrase.  could the sshd_config force to ask for password?
[04:51] <Riyonuk> blujay, well like what program is he using to make it transparant, where did he get the icons, etc
[04:51] <kitche> ELpH95o: does the livecd?
[04:51] <ELpH95o> maybe i should try debian?
[04:51] <ELpH95o> the livecd doesnt crash
[04:51] <harry> why does my ubuntu doesnt synchronize to ubuntulinux.org at startup,
[04:51] <scorp123> ELpH95o: then it's your hardware ... maybe your memory chips are defective or your machine gets too hot inside?
[04:51] <ELpH95o> why would ubuntu freeze or crash?
[04:51] <blujay> Riyonuk: those look like standard Ubuntu icons.  You don't need a special program for the Gnome Terminal to look like that, just change the settings.
[04:51] <ELpH95o> maybe it's the heat?
[04:51] <fbc> Can someone tell me where to find the scanmodem tool???
[04:51] <ELpH95o> what if it's the heat
[04:51] <kitche> Answer: it might be asking for the passphrase what does it say when you try to ssh in does it ask for username then password or just ask for password?
[04:51] <cypruser> How do I install VMware?
[04:52] <Answer> kitche: just password
[04:52] <Riyonuk> blujay, how would I go about doing that?
[04:52] <blujay> Riyonuk: look at the preferences
[04:52] <adaptr> Answer: 115. debug1: Trying private key: /home/rugrat/.ssh/identity <-- that is where your private key should be, unless you manually tell your ssh client to use another
[04:52] <kitche> Answer: then it's asking for your passphrase password probably
[04:52] <adaptr> Answer: and it isn't - you never moved your private key
[04:52] <Answer> adaptr: look a few lines after that, it looks for the pubkey in other locations 119. debug1: Offering public key: /home/rugrat/.ssh/id_dsa
[04:52] <|amicraw|> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLXOnDapper
[04:53] <danielmarsom> how do i install KDE on normal ubuntu offline? (i have the kubuntu CD)
[04:53] <steven_> My kde-guidance broke and I cannot get it to start back up...  Can someone help me possibly troubleshoot this?
[04:53] <adaptr> Answer: the *client* cannot *offer* a public key - ssh auth does not work like that
[04:53] <ELpH95o> im running memtester
[04:53] <|amicraw|> i'm fallowing this site but when i update sayes it can reslove the 2nd line
[04:53] <kitche> adaptr: id_dsa is a private key
[04:53] <Answer> adaptr: also on line 5 when I regenerated the keys, that is the name where I saved the key 119. debug1: Offering public key: /home/rugrat/.ssh/id_dsa
[04:53] <blujay> danielmarsom: just do it...it will install but be out-of-date
[04:53] <Riyonuk> blujay, Im looking, still cant find it
[04:53] <kitche> adaptr: but I see what your saying with his debug lines though
[04:54] <danielmarsom> blujay, but how?
[04:54] <blujay> Riyonuk: well, I switched to KDE a long time ago (and I recommend you consider doing so also), but you should find something in Edit->Preferences
[04:54] <adaptr> Answer: I will repeat my statement of before: client uploads public key to server, server encrypts a cookie with it, client decrypts with private key, client sends cookie to server, server allows login
[04:54] <blujay> danielmarsom: put the CD in, reboot the computer
[04:54] <cypruser> How do I install VMware?
[04:54] <adaptr> Answer: There. is. no. other. way.
[04:54] <kitche> Answer: did you make a passphrase when you made those keys?
[04:54] <danielmarsom> blujay, but i want them on the smae partition
[04:54] <blujay> danielmarsom: what?
[04:54] <Hansel> so many answers... so few questions...
[04:55] <danielmarsom> blujay, Ubuntu with KDE basically
[04:55] <|amicraw|> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLXOnDapper
[04:55] <flyinghippo> Has anyone here had any experience getting Ubuntu to work with a widescreen resolution?
[04:55] <flyinghippo> Something like... 16:10.
[04:55] <Answer> adaptr: I am open to suggestions on how to fix it based on what you think is the problem, but I have it setup as specified in every howto and manpage.
[04:55] <blujay> danielmarsom: let me see if I understand you...
[04:55] <adaptr> kitche: id_dsa is *both* the private and public key - it is the *identity*, which contains both, so you can do pubkey signing with it as well (which works in exactly the opposite way from encrypting)
[04:55] <m12> anyone know the mplayer shortcut to make the picture expand to fit the screen in full-screen mode?
[04:55] <timfrost> cypruser: which VMware product?
[04:55] <Answer> kitche: no I hit enter for a blank passphrase
[04:55] <flyinghippo> In further detail... 1280x800.
[04:55] <killsythe> guys
[04:55] <blujay> danielmarsom: you already have Ubuntu installed, but you want to install KDE, but you want to do it offline
[04:55] <cypruser> timfrost: The free player version.
[04:55] <kitche> adaptr: I have id_dsa and a id_dsa.pub for my keys
[04:55] <danielmarsom> blujay, yes and on the same partition
[04:56] <Answer> kitche: line 9 and ten from pastebin:  009. Your identification has been saved in /home/rugrat/.ssh/id_dsa.    010. Your public key has been saved in /home/rugrat/.ssh/id_dsa.pub.
[04:56] <blujay> danielmarsom: I think you can probably do it by putting in the cd, running apt-cdrom, and then using apt-get to install the kde packages...I forget what Ubuntu's KDE metapackage is...something like desktop-kde I think
[04:56] <adaptr> Answer: I am not doubting that, but you have to understand what your paste shows: - initial (secure channel) setup completes successfully, see re: known_hosts and such, after that it finds your public key in your home directory
[04:56] <harry> why does my ubuntu doesnt synchronize to ubuntulinux.org at startup,
[04:56] <Riyonuk> How do I install KDE?
[04:56] <Riyonuk> Like the command
[04:56] <danielmarsom> blujay, kubuntu-desktop
[04:56] <adaptr> Answer: and then .. it tries to authenticate via pubkeys *with a public key* - this can. not. work.
[04:57] <blujay> danielmarsom: there we go
[04:57] <timfrost> cypruser: enable the universe and multiverse repositories, then 'sudo apt-get install  vmware-player'
[04:57] <steven_> Riyonuk: i believe it is     apt-get install kde-desktop
[04:57] <Answer> adaptr: ok so how do I fix what you are saying?  I have already done apt-get remove --purge I'll try whatever you suggest.
[04:57] <blujay> Riyonuk: install kubuntu-desktop (and preferably kdm as well)
[04:57] <adaptr> Answer: have you actually tried this from a remote machine ? it may refuse to do what you want because your local home directory, and hence your local key set, is the same as the remote one
[04:57] <steven_> Riyonuk: i believe it is     apt-get install kubuntu-desktop     sorry
[04:57] <Riyonuk> kubuntu?
[04:57] <adaptr> Answer: I personally suspect this is the real issue
[04:57] <Riyonuk> I thought I wanted KDE
[04:57] <jacquesmerde> where are .pubkeys stored on ubuntu?
[04:58] <kitche> jacquesmerde: pubkeys for what?
[04:58] <blujay> Riyonuk: trust us :)
[04:58] <Hansel> ubuntu = ubuntu + gnome          kubuntu = ubuntu + kde       xubuntu = ubuntu + xfce
[04:58] <kitche> Riyonuk: or sudo apt-get install kde
[04:58] <jacquesmerde> kitche: random repos
[04:58] <Jimerson> What's the terminal command for figuring out exactly what type of wireless card I'm using?
[04:58] <Hansel> Jimerson - lsmod probably will tell you which driver it is... dunno about the "type"
[04:58] <Riyonuk> 464MB?
[04:58] <blujay> Riyonuk: kubuntu-desktop should pull in everything that a default Kubuntu CD will
[04:59] <steven_> Riyonuk: yes, you need to be root, so you need to sudo first then   'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:59] <gouki> Jimerson: lspci
[04:59] <Jimerson> thanks Hansel
[04:59] <Jimerson> thanks
[04:59] <blujay> Riyonuk: yes it includes a lot of software, just like GNOME
[04:59] <kitche> Riyonuk: kubuntu-desktop will also pull in a lot of junk
[04:59] <jacquesmerde> kubuntu-desktop IS a lot of junk :)
[04:59] <Jimerson> hrm
[04:59] <danielmarsom> blujay, E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop
[04:59] <gwark> i have a laptop with SD-memcard from a camera .... can ubuntu recognise it?  (it of course isnt right now)
[04:59] <danielmarsom> blast
[04:59] <Jimerson> What aobut the mac os x command?
[04:59] <blujay> jacquesmerde: ubuntu-desktop is junkier ;P
[04:59] <kitche> jacquesmerde: well more junk then kde would :)
[05:00] <blujay> danielmarsom: um...you're the one that found that package name...
[05:00] <Hansel> OSX is FreeBSD based so it should be VERY similar Jimerson...
[05:00] <jacquesmerde> just give xfce4 a few more months...
[05:00] <steven_> I am getting this error when trying to run powernowd    line 33: /sbin/lsmod: Input/output error
[05:00] <Answer> adaptr: ok here is the ssh -v output from a remote machine.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38971/
[05:00] <timfrost> danielmarsom: what repositories have you got enabled?
[05:00] <steven_> can someone point me in the right direction on how to fix this?
[05:00] <danielmarsom> blujay, yeah i know, its the metapackage in the universe repos
[05:00] <blujay> danielmarsom: shouldn't be in universe
[05:01] <kinectio1> I'm automatically getting 192.168.0.1 (the ip of the router) as a nameserver being set on boot, how do I make it so that the correct DNS servers are being used? There are two nameservers being listed, the 192.168.0.1 and the correct one below it.
[05:01] <blujay> steven_: try running "sudo lsmod" yourself
[05:01] <kitche> steven_: run lsmod and see if it says the same thing but it seems liek your using the wrong command for what you want
[05:01] <adaptr> Answer: I just tried all of the steps on my local machine, and it worked without a hitch
[05:01] <adaptr> Answer: so much for my theory...
[05:01] <danielmarsom> blujay, and i looked for packages iwht it disabled, and i couldnt find anything to do withh kubuntu or kde
[05:01] <bulmer> kinectio1: reconfigure your router to dole out the correct dns server?
[05:01] <gouki> kitche: /etc/resolv.conf - Or you can setup the DNS servers on the router
[05:01] <blujay> danielmarsom: what?
[05:01] <Answer> adaptr: yes I have done it on several other machines with no problem.  so coudl it be the sshd_config file?
[05:01] <steven_> bluejay: sudo: lsmod: command not found
[05:02] <danielmarsom> blujay, excatly what im thinking...
[05:02] <kitche> gouki: huh?
[05:02] <blujay> steven_: um...try running "which lsmod"
[05:02] <kinectio1> bulmer: it has the correct DNS servers set
[05:02] <blujay> danielmarsom: well, I couldn't understand what you meant, so I said "what?" :)
[05:02] <kinectio1> bulmer: i don't think it's the router's fault
[05:02] <steven_> blujay: same thing.  I think I screwed up the bash
[05:02] <blujay> steven_: try running "bash" then try again
[05:02] <adaptr> Answer: hmm I am starting to suspect your ssh client config.. is it set up to allow DSA keys ?
[05:03] <adaptr> Answer: let me run ssh in vvv mode as well, it works for me - we can compare the output
[05:03] <jacquesmerde> apt-key add requires that you leave the .pubkey file where it is, yeah?
[05:03] <bulmer> kinectio1: you're client uses dhcp right? dns servers used are doled out as part of dhcp
[05:03] <Answer> adaptr: hold on I have several clients that can connect to other servers with the dsa key.  I do not think it is client side.  I think it is a problem with the server
[05:03] <cypruser> Timfrost: How do I agree to the EULA?
[05:03] <kinectio1> bulmer: yea, and my router is getting it dynamiclly assigned from qwest
[05:03] <kitche> steven_: do this echo $PATH and pastebin what outputs
[05:04] <gouki> kitche: Edit /etc/resolv.conf and configure what DNS servers you want to use. You can also change the DNS servers your router uses (by default the ISP ones) and continue to use the router as DNS server
[05:04] <bulmer> kinectio1: so what is the issue? i may have mis-understood
[05:04] <blazemonger> man ubuntu's frozen up like 3 times when ive tried to run a simple program
[05:04] <blazemonger> somethings up
[05:04] <blazemonger> and its not my hardware
[05:04] <timfrost> cypruser: type 'q' to quit the pager, then 'Y <ENTER>'
[05:04] <steven_> kitche: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
[05:04] <blazemonger> wtf is happening to me?
[05:04] <Z_Morek> sudo did not break it was merely misconfigured
[05:04] <Z_Morek> in sudoer and group
[05:04] <kinectio1> bulmer: the ubuntu box is getting 192.168.0.1 as its first nameserver and the actual one as its second
[05:04] <blazemonger> 6.10 is buggy
[05:04] <blujay> blazemonger: what program?
[05:04] <blazemonger> billard-gl
[05:04] <blazemonger> it freezes
[05:04] <kitche> steven_: hmm that looks correct
[05:04] <blazemonger> it didnt do that in previous versions of ubuntu
[05:04] <blujay> blazemonger: what video card and drivers?
[05:04] <adaptr> Answer: your second paste, line 120. debug3: send_pubkey_test
[05:05] <blazemonger> i have a rage 128
[05:05] <blujay> blazemonger: that's old
[05:05] <kinectio1> bulmer: web browsing becomes slow until i go in and manually remove 192.168.0.1
[05:05] <blazemonger> and there's no other driver except the one that comes with ubuntu
[05:05] <blazemonger> i know
[05:05] <bulmer> kinectio1: so have your router reconfigured to dole the first one you wanted
[05:05] <blazemonger> but it still ran billard-gl
[05:05] <blazemonger> but it shouldnt freeze or crash my machine though
[05:05] <kitche> kinectio1: remove ipv6 also
[05:05] <blazemonger> it should be like just the program not work
[05:05] <blazemonger> right?
[05:05] <kinectio1> kitche: k, i'll look into that
[05:05] <blazemonger> i thought linux was more stable than windows
[05:05] <blujay> blazemonger: such an old card with such an old driver may very well hve poor 3D support, and since it's loaded into the kernel, it could crash it
[05:05] <steven_> kitche: you know how at the prompt it says username@(machine name)
[05:06] <kitche> steven_: yes that is part of the PS1 variable
[05:06] <blazemonger> well in previous uubnut versions it didnt do that to me
[05:06] <blujay> blazemonger: I mean that card is over 10 years old I think
[05:06] <cypruser> Timfrost: I pressed q but it didn't do anything.
[05:06] <adaptr> Answer: your server rejects the key, mine accepts it - so it is definitely the sshd_config
[05:06] <steven_> kitche: I get my username@(none)   my machine name isnt there
[05:06] <blazemonger> on the same exact program
[05:06] <kinectio1> bulmer: if it's the routers fault, i don't know how to change that. there is no way to say, ignore 192.168.0.1 ?
[05:06] <rendered> press q again
[05:06] <rendered> try twice always
[05:06] <blazemonger> my friend said it was a top of the line card
[05:06] <kitche> steven_: hmm seems liek you been messing with config files
[05:06] <blazemonger> who built my computer
[05:06] <blujay> blazemonger: are you sure that you can boot into Dapper and run the same program with the same driver and not crash?  (please use my nickname so I can find your lines)
[05:06] <blazemonger> yes
[05:06] <Z_Morek> anyone here run mythtv and have issues with sound?
[05:06] <blazemonger> i did it before
[05:06] <cypruser> I've pressed it about 10 times now. It didn't work.
[05:06] <medic30420> how do I set a custom screen resolution in edgy? (I have a new 19" that runs 1280x1024)
[05:06] <timfrost> cypruser: what is the prompt saying?
[05:06] <adaptr> blazemonger: it was top of the line about 7,8 years ago :)
[05:06] <cypruser> I'm at the screen with the blue border.
[05:06] <bulmer> kinectio1: on your client, you can possible configure it to ignore the dns name updates, and set it yourself in /etc/resolv.conf
[05:07] <rendered> you are at a spring house
[05:07] <blujay> blazemonger: no offense but if you don't type my nick then I'm not going to be able to follow this conversation very well
[05:07] <rendered> a hollow voice says plugh
[05:07] <blazemonger> the same game works PERFECT in XP
[05:07] <Answer> adaptr: ok sshd_config http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38973/
[05:07] <adaptr> Answer: pastebin your sshd_config for kicks - oh wait ;-)
[05:07] <blazemonger> blujay the same exact game works PERFECT in windows
[05:07] <steven_> kitche: a little bit.  i have been messing with udev and the /etc/default/acpi-support
[05:07] <harry> Synchronizing clock to ntp.ubuntulinux.org failed
[05:07] <kinectio1> bulmer: meh, i was hopping to get around that, but thanks.
[05:07] <blujay> blazemonger: ok, I understand.  But that's a different driver.  Again, are you sure Dapper works perfectly with it?
[05:07] <blazemonger> what could be wrong with things with me and linux
[05:07] <blazemonger> maybe linux doesnt like me
[05:07] <blazemonger> i'm 1000% positive blujay
[05:07] <timfrost> What happens if you press the space bar or enter key?
[05:07] <cypruser> Timfrost: The prompt is the EULA with a  blue border. There is a <Ok> that doesn't move.
[05:08] <blujay> blazemonger: what version are you using now?
[05:08] <adaptr> Answer: 13. HostKey /home/rugrat/.ssh/id_dsa <-- you really don't want to do that, and it's probably the reason it doesn't work - use the host keys like a normal person!
[05:08] <blazemonger> blujay im using 6.10 now
[05:08] <blazemonger> the latest
[05:08] <harry> Synchronizing clock to ntp.ubuntulinux.org failed
[05:08] <adaptr> Answer: why did you ever touch that ?
[05:08] <blazemonger> are there any distros that WONT freeze on me?
[05:08] <blujay> blazemonger: and when did you run it on Dapper?
[05:08] <adaptr> blazemonger: FreeDos :)
[05:08] <kitche> steven_: well it's hard to help you since it seems like you editted something that you didn't have do ls -l in / and pastebin it to a pastebin site the results
[05:08] <blazemonger> blujay right before edgy came out
[05:08] <cypruser> Timfrost: Nothing, The title of the page is Configuring vmware-player.
[05:09] <blujay> blazemonger: were you using the same video driver?
[05:09] <steven_> kitche: could the dash have something to do with this?
[05:09] <blazemonger> blujay yes i was
[05:09] <blazemonger> the exact same video driver
[05:09] <blujay> blazemonger: what driver is that?
[05:09] <blazemonger> r128
[05:09] <adaptr> Answer: I see now that DSA auth works even sneakier than RSA :)
[05:09] <blazemonger> blujay 128
[05:09] <blazemonger> blujay r128
[05:09] <kitche>  steven_: dash? that's the shell that ubuntu uses right?
[05:09] <blujay> blazemonger: are there any errors in your syslogs or in ~/.xsession-errors ?
[05:09] <metguru> adaptr: I'm back, do you think you can help me again, or are you busy?
[05:09] <steven_> kitche: yes
[05:09] <Answer> adaptr: I didn't touch anything.  I had the day off today.  I was watching tv when the helpdesk called me.
[05:09] <kitche>  steven_ no that should matter
[05:10] <adaptr> metguru: Well, I'm here anyway ;-)
[05:10] <dehvokahn> could someone help me figure out where a missing 11GB of space went? I did a simple copy from one 160GB HD to another, and there was 91GB free on the first and there's only 80GB free on the second
[05:10] <timfrost> cypruser: try pressing TAB once, then ENTER - I seem to recall that the focus isn't on the OK
[05:10] <kitche> steven_: should/shouldn't
[05:10] <adaptr> Answer: well, somebody changed the host keys to that user's private key
[05:10] <steven_> kitche: okay because i changed it from the default
[05:10] <blazemonger> blujay (gnome-panel:4444): Gtk-WARNING **: gtk_widget_size_allocate(): attempt to alloc
[05:10] <blazemonger> ate widget with width -3 and height 24
[05:10] <cypruser> Timfrost: Thanks, it worked.
[05:10] <Answer> adaptr: ok I copied sshd_config from a working server and did /etc/init.d/ssh restart.  it is still asking for a password
[05:10] <xabbott> dehvokahn: did you get trash for you and root?
[05:10] <kitche> steven_: what did you install another shell? which one
[05:10] <blujay> blazemonger: that's not an error actually, just a warning, and it isn't related to billiard-gl :)
[05:11] <adaptr> Answer: that would not be my solution.. you've lost any setup you had in there
[05:11] <metguru> adaptr: thanks, any help will be much appreciated. Do you understand what the problem is from that last command result I sent you?
[05:11] <adaptr> metguru: remind me
[05:11] <Answer> adaptr: I made a backup.. what should the HostKey line say
[05:11] <steven_> kitche: sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash     then selected no
[05:11] <blazemonger> BlueEagle ubunu also freezes on some audio stuff like rosegarden too
[05:11] <adaptr> Answer: you should REMOVE that line.. the original line is above it
[05:11] <blazemonger> and like 8 other programs ive tried like fredoom
[05:11] <kitche> steven_: hmm I m not familiar with the options for dash what was that option?
[05:11] <steven_> kitche: just put it back and still not working.
[05:11] <blazemonger> blujay could it be ubuntu doesnt like my hardware?
[05:11] <dehvokahn> xabbott, i don't know what you mean - i was copying files from an old NTFS windows drive onto an ext2 drive - mostly music and videos
[05:11] <blujay> blazemonger: well, it could be a hardware problem.  If you really care, I suggest you file some bug reports.  :)
[05:11] <kitche> steven_: try reset might work
[05:12] <blujay> blazemonger: are there any 3d apps that don't freeze?
[05:12] <blazemonger> blujay penguin racer doesnt freeze
[05:12] <rendered> what do all you people do ?
[05:12] <adaptr> Answer: the line should read the same as the rsa one, except dsa instead
[05:12] <Answer> adaptr: ok I did what you said.  does /etc/init.d/ssh restart actually restart the root sshd daemon and reload sshd_config?  It is not terminating my ssh session even.  do I have to reboot?
[05:12] <blujay> blazemonger: and I know you said it works in Windows, but sometimes Linux handles hardware differently.  My motherboard has a strange IRQ issue that can cause Windows to bluescreen but Linux just boots on and makes a minor complaint
[05:13] <blazemonger> blujay it does the opposite to me
[05:13] <blujay> blazemonger: all I know to suggest now (other than changing hardware) is to file some bug reports
[05:13] <adaptr> Answer: you're jumping before you can run err.. walk, whatever.. you're going too fast
[05:13] <blazemonger> i have one of those plug'n'pray motherboards i think
[05:13] <adaptr> Answer: FIRST, please restore the ORIGINAL sshd config file - the one you had 10 minutes ago
[05:13] <blazemonger> blujay ive filed bug reports before but never were fixed
[05:13] <steven_> kitche: its just lsmod, it gives the input output error. i did a whereis ant its in the /bin/ but i cannot run it or go to that directory, gives and input output error
[05:13] <adaptr> aka the one that is in the pastebin, otherwise I have nothing to work from
[05:13] <blujay> blazemonger: where did you file them?
[05:14] <metguru> adaptr: what is that thing that i can use to make a command formatted correctly and not on 15 lines?
[05:14] <kitche> steven_: seems like it's broken
[05:14] <blazemonger> blujay the apt repositories
[05:14] <adaptr> !pastebin|metguru
[05:14] <ubotu> metguru: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:14] <blujay> blazemonger: um...like on what web site?
[05:14] <cypruser> How do I start VMware Player?
[05:14] <blazemonger> blujay dont know a website
[05:14] <kitche> steven_: I would figure out which package installs it and reinstall it
[05:14] <blujay> blazemonger: ...by what method did you file a bug report then?  ...?
[05:14] <blazemonger> i do everything in the apt-get repositories that come with ubuntu.. BlueEagle
[05:14] <steven_> kitche: okay, thank you, I appreciate it
[05:15] <Answer> adaptr: ok I did here is the new one with your suggestions:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38974/
[05:15] <steven_> kitche: I just got everything working again today, then that broke, i was like !!!!!
[05:15] <blujay> blazemonger: apt repos are not bug-reporting stations...
[05:15] <blazemonger> oh okay
[05:15] <blazemonger> im sorry im new to the linux game
[05:15] <blujay> blazemonger: try www.launchpad.net :)  file some there
[05:15] <blazemonger> i know how to use it perfectly
[05:15] <kitche> steven_: it's sorta hard to pin point since you were messing with something but a reinstall of the package should help
[05:15] <blazemonger> but alot of appz just crash or freeze my system
[05:15] <blazemonger> i dont know what could be wrong
[05:15] <blujay> blazemonger: sounds like a hardware problem to me
[05:15] <blazemonger> i'm getting frustrated with linux ive tried alot of distros
[05:15] <blujay> blazemonger: it's not overclocked, is it?
[05:15] <adaptr> Answer: Good. now change this: 33. AuthorizedKeysFile      /home/rugrat/.ssh/authorized_keys
[05:16] <rendered> ain't it always bluejay ?
[05:16] <blujay> blazemonger: is it overheating?
[05:16] <rendered> ain't it ?
[05:16] <blazemonger> the hardware i have works perfect in windows
[05:16] <igorcg> Hi man, i have a problem here, I configurated the internet conection by winmodem but it just works for root account, I wanna know how can i make this conection acessible for all users
[05:16] <blazemonger> BlueEagle its not overclocked
[05:16] <rendered> configurated ?
[05:16] <neurotech> Hi there guys, how do I add this repository to my list? http://ubuntu.systemadministrator.org/
[05:16] <rendered> the winmodem ?
[05:16] <steven_> kitche: i had a really bad hang on a suspend.  I think thaqt did it
[05:16] <rendered> ewwwe
[05:16] <blazemonger> blujay i dont overclock..could it be i need to reconfigure a kernel?
[05:16] <rendered> chap city
[05:16] <metguru> adaptr: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38975/ this is the mount command. Thats where we left off, the problem was, I couldn't write to hda2, but its called hda1 on the desktop
[05:16] <adaptr> Answer: replace the /home/rugrat with %h - this user certainly locked down his system so nobody else can sensibly use it....
[05:16] <igorcg> yes winmodem
[05:16] <rendered> I overclock only when I drink
[05:16] <MTecknology> I tried Ubuntu 6.10 desktop and it kept crashing when trying to start up. now i have 6.10 alternate.. when trying to install in text, i get the error "Unknown interrupt or fault at EIP 00000060 c0100231 00000230"
[05:16] <kitche> steven_: probbaly suspend is known to break systems
[05:16] <JNeverMind> hi whats the name of that file i edit to get to the universe ?
[05:16] <rendered> igorvg - ouch
[05:16] <rendered> those blow
[05:16] <JNeverMind> sources.something
[05:16] <rendered> they pass it all off to the cpui
[05:16] <userundefine> JNeverMind, /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:16] <steven_> kitche: yeah, after that, no more lsmod LOL
[05:16] <rendered> same as AC97 sound
[05:16] <JNeverMind> THX
[05:16] <blujay> blazemonger: that shouldn't be necessary.  maybe it's just that Linux is a bit more stringent with your particular hardware.  again, all I can recommend is to file some bug reports on launchpad
[05:17] <cypruser> How do I start VMware Player?
[05:17] <rendered> there are so many better ways
[05:17] <adaptr> Answer: so that line becomes: 33. AuthorizedKeysFile      %h/.ssh/authorized_keys
[05:17] <rendered> cyp - ws /
[05:17] <rendered> ?
[05:17] <blazemonger> blujay what do i do if linux is more strigent with my ahrdware?
[05:17] <adaptr> Answer: so it will work for any user, not just him
[05:17] <blazemonger> my hardware is all detected in linux, blujay
[05:17] <fnord_> i need some help with openchrome,every time i edit my xorg.conf it breaks its im just replaceing vesa with via,which ive installed the drivers for
[05:17] <blazemonger> what's a reccomended linux box
[05:17] <blujay> blazemonger: get different hardware, or ...file bug reports and help the devs fix the crashes
[05:17] <rendered> same here blaze
[05:17] <rendered> thankfully
[05:17] <blazemonger> i dont got the $ for new hardware
[05:17] <blazemonger> or diff hardware
[05:18] <blujay> blazemonger: I understand...same here
[05:18] <rendered> blaze -w hat do you do for $ ?
[05:18] <fnord_> cypruser, applications=>system tools=>vmware
[05:18] <rendered> I get work sometimes
[05:18] <rendered> can be $15 an hour
[05:18] <rendered> not bad
[05:18] <rendered> or $12
[05:18] <adaptr> metguru: this line 11. /dev/hda2 on /media/hda1 type ext3 (rw) mounts the second partition, and it is mounted in Read/Write mode, so you should be able to make files and directories in /media/hda1
[05:18] <rendered> best was $22
[05:18] <blazemonger> blujay i do art
[05:18] <blazemonger> for ppl
[05:18] <rendered> python scripting
[05:18] <rendered> some vb
[05:18] <timfrost> cypruser: there will be a menu item in Applications->System Tools I think, and you can add it to the panel.   Do you have a virtual machine set up to run in it?
[05:18] <neurotech> Hi there guys, how do I add this repository to my list? http://ubuntu.systemadministrator.org/
[05:18] <CraZy675> I have a white box i connect to remotly but it has a dynamic IP, anyone know of a tutorial for a cron script to email me everytime the ip changes?
[05:18] <blujay> blazemonger: I suggest you look in your syslogs for errors...maybe you can tweak something that's causing a problem
[05:19] <adaptr> Answer: you said "help desk" - I am amazed you work somewhere where they allow users to change system settings
[05:19] <cypruser> Timfrost: No.
[05:19] <blazemonger> blujay i dont know how to do that
[05:19] <adaptr> Answer: on *linux* machines - I would not be amazed had it been Windoze, where you need administrative rights to even print a friggin piece of paper
[05:19] <blujay> blazemonger: sudo less /var/log/syslog, for starters...look at the different log files for things that might be hardware problems in the boot process
[05:20] <Answer> adaptr:  ok I did %h restarted ssh and here is the ssh -v localhost and ssh -v from a remote machine:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38977/
[05:20] <rendered> MS ain't bad
[05:20] <rendered> I use both
[05:20] <metguru> adaptr: I try to copy a file into the directory /media/hda1 and it gave me the error "You do not have permissions to write to this folder."
[05:20] <rendered> I got BEOS on a box
[05:20] <rendered>  hell fuck
[05:20] <timfrost> cypruser: player won't create a VM, so you will need to get one from somewhere.  What OS do you want to run in the VM?
[05:20] <blazemonger> i have a few errors in my /var/syslog
[05:20] <Answer> rendered: don't distract him with your petty os bickering.
[05:20] <craigbass1976> Anyone in here use ardour for mixing music?
[05:20] <adaptr> Answer: I haven;t even read all of your config file! slowwww doooown
[05:20] <rendered> answer - petty ? heh
[05:20] <blazemonger> i have this raid card
[05:20] <cypruser> Timfrost: Windows XP
[05:20] <kyncani> CraZy675: how about a dynamic dns ?
[05:20] <blujay> blazemonger: another possibility is to go to the Ubuntu forums and mailing lists and ask there...other folks might have more ideas
[05:20] <blazemonger> that's old but it gets detected though
[05:20] <rendered> answer - it's not petty now !
[05:20] <regal> hey guys i have a question
[05:20] <blazemonger> windows xp NEVER crashes on me
[05:20] <rendered> it's 2006
[05:20] <blazemonger> i figured linux would be more stable
[05:20] <rendered> regal - ask away
[05:20] <metguru> adaptr: i don't understand why its not working
[05:20] <rendered> blaze- not always
[05:20] <rendered> blaze - If I have bad code, no OS will save me
[05:21] <blujay> blazemonger: you might try Debian instead of Ubuntu...you never know
[05:21] <regal> if im in the ubuntu live cd and im repartitioning my windows partition to make space for ubuntu will widnows still work?
[05:21] <rendered> bluejay - note my chans !
[05:21] <rendered> that's where I live normally
[05:21] <rendered> debian
[05:21] <rendered> ubu is neat though
[05:21] <rendered> I like the name, what it means, and the peer support
[05:21] <blazemonger> blujay. ive tried debian
[05:21] <blujay> rendered: yeah, I have Debian on my desktop and Ubuntu on an old laptop
[05:21] <rendered> and - heh, got glade workin'
[05:21] <regal> ???
[05:21] <blazemonger> linux just hates me i guess
[05:21] <blujay> rendered: you have an old 3dfx card?
[05:21] <blazemonger> i truely want to run linux though
[05:21] <rendered> no
[05:22] <blazemonger> i thought it would never crash though
[05:22] <rendered> bluejay - no
[05:22] <regal> ?
[05:22] <regal> ?
[05:22] <regal> ?
[05:22] <blujay> blazemonger: try Debian again...it's updated often
[05:22] <fnord_> never?
[05:22] <blazemonger> testing or stable?
[05:22] <blujay> blazemonger: testing
[05:22] <Answer> blazemonger: I run on various old hardware platforms and it never crashes.  I think it is your fault
[05:22] <GenNMX> Windows XP nor Linux has crashed for me for 3 years.
[05:22] <jughead> blazemonger: yeah it does crash sometimes; it depends on your setup
[05:22] <blazemonger> ive had hardware probz with debian before too
[05:22] <regal> can anyone tell me?
[05:22] <fnord_> where should i go for help with video card drivers?
[05:22] <blazemonger> ive had crashes in blag
[05:22] <rendered> Gen - close too -  2k,  deb/ubu
[05:22] <rendered> no crash
[05:22] <blazemonger> what's something that WONT crash?
[05:22] <blujay> rendered: what is glade then?
[05:22] <adaptr> Answer: what is the contents of /home/rugrat/.ssh/config ?
[05:22] <rendered> well, short of somethign that should have
[05:22] <blujay> blazemonger: a rock
[05:22] <Answer> blazemonger: freebsd or solaris don't crash much
[05:23] <regal> ???
[05:23] <regal> ????
[05:23] <rendered> blu - was towards getting mono to work
[05:23] <regal> ????
[05:23] <blazemonger> freebsd takes like years to configure
[05:23] <blujay> rendered: oh, the Gtk Glade :)
[05:23] <regal> come on anyone?
[05:23] <adaptr> metguru: so what happens when you try : touch /media/hda1/testfile ?
[05:23] <blujay> regal: what is your question!?
[05:23] <Answer> adaptr: the .ssh config just links hostname to ip address.  there are no global settings or anything there
[05:23] <timfrost> neurotech: add a line 'deb http://ubuntu.systemadministrator.org/ edgy' to /etc/apt/sources.list (change edgy to dapper if appropriate), then add the signing key as described on the main page, and do 'sudo apt-get update'
[05:23] <blazemonger> maybe i should try suse
[05:23] <blazemonger> or something
[05:23] <regal> if im in the ubuntu live cd and im repartitioning my windows partition to make space for ubuntu will widnows still work?
[05:23] <blazemonger> or fedora core
[05:23] <GenNMX> Neither Debian or Ubuntu are toated as 100% stable Server solutions. And even Windows XP Professional is still suppose to be a desktop -- 2000 and 2003 are the servers
[05:23] <blujay> regal: it should, if you allow it to resize the windows partition
[05:24] <kitche> GenNMX: umm 2000 is also a desktop
[05:24] <blazemonger> genben know anything that IS 100% stable?
[05:24] <regal> if i resize windows i mean will it work?
[05:24] <DaGimp> kitche - yes, NT 5.0 and 5.1
[05:24] <metguru> adaptr: "touch: cannot touch `/media/hda1/testfile': Permission denied"
[05:24] <regal> threw ubuntu live cd
[05:24] <GenNMX> blazemonger: A toaster. That you never use.
[05:24] <DaGimp> those bozo's at MS - they get some thigns to work
[05:24] <blazemonger> i was told linux never crashes
[05:24] <genben> blazemonger: debian latest
[05:24] <adaptr> Answer: I think I'll need to see the localhost attempt with triple-v again, I'm missing steps now...
[05:24] <DaGimp> blze- never ?
[05:24] <DaGimp> blze - come on... bad code could ruin anyones day
[05:24] <Munchkinguy> Who should I talk to for reviewing a proposed spec?
[05:24] <blazemonger> yah
[05:24] <blujay> regal: it should...but you should always make backups before messing with partitions!
[05:24] <kitche> blazemonger: linux doesn't everything else does
[05:24] <adaptr> metguru: and what does "ls -la /mnt/media" say ?
[05:24] <blazemonger> i need a distro that's stable
[05:24] <blazemonger> heh
[05:25] <craigbass1976> regal, you can't keep posting quesitons like that. Someone will eventually answer, or if they don't jsut wait a few minutes between posts.  Windows should still work.  If it doesn't, your data should still be there.  Defrag first.
[05:25] <DaGimp> a  *nix box can also be poorly secured
[05:25] <metguru> adaptr: ls -la /mnt/media
[05:25] <blazemonger> ubuntu has the stuff i need but it doesnt work hardly
[05:25] <genben> blazemonger: what are you going to do with this *stable* distro?
[05:25] <adaptr> metguru: sorry, should be /media/hda1, of course
[05:25] <metguru> adaptr: ls: /mnt/media: No such file or directory
[05:25] <DaGimp> it's just yet another solution
[05:25] <metguru> lol
[05:25] <DaGimp> I wish I could pop my M drive in
[05:25] <blazemonger> music appz
[05:25] <DaGimp> i miss me M Drive
[05:25] <blazemonger> develop music appz iz what ive got planned
[05:25] <Riyonuk> How do I make all tasks, quicklaunch, etc on one bar? All at the bottom, like this guy.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Edgyeft.png
[05:25] <adaptr> metguru: I'm old school, this newfangled /media stuff has me in conniptions....
[05:25] <DaGimp> blze- ah
[05:26] <blujay> blazemonger: no offense, but if I could offer a suggestion?  :)  Leave this channel, post on the ubuntu forum and on the ubuntu-users list, and go to launchpad.net and file a bug report on billiard-gl and whatever other apps crash.  then wait patiently for answers :)
[05:26] <metguru> adaptr: ls: /mnt/media/hda1: No such file or directory
[05:26] <DaGimp> go for low latency on your audio cards
[05:26] <adaptr> metguru: you don't have that !
[05:26] <fnord_> i need some help with openchrome,every time i edit my xorg.conf it breaks its im just replaceing vesa with via under the device setting,which ive installed the drivers for
[05:26] <blazemonger> i have that one taken care of
[05:26] <wastrel> /media yes, i always always type /mnt first then have to change it to /media
[05:26] <DaGimp> I just got some app SoundSense blaze, it lets you develop some music
[05:26] <DaGimp> lots out there
[05:26] <adaptr> Answer: fallen asleep ? :)
[05:26] <blazemonger> my stuff in linux always breakz
[05:26] <DaGimp> lol blaze
[05:26] <Red_Death> hello guys
[05:26] <adaptr> blazemonger: it could be related to your attitude....
[05:26] <DaGimp> someone was smokin' blaze
[05:27] <craigbass1976> regal, also, when dualbooting before totally axing windows, I had a fat partition so I could share documents between OSes.  Linux might be better now with ntfs, but I wouldn't know
[05:27] <blazemonger> i'm a happy guy
[05:27] <metguru> adaptr: when i go into properties from right clicking on it it says root: read and write group root: read
[05:27] <DaGimp> I am happy too
[05:27] <blazemonger> maybe mandriva would work good?
[05:27] <Red_Death> everything ubuntu-wise is fine, but my sound just stopped working sometime last night. I'm not sure if it means anything but I had just installed beryl around that time... any ideas?
[05:27] <adaptr> metguru: just do what I asked please... ls -la /media/hda1
[05:27] <blazemonger> or fedora core?
[05:28] <blujay> blazemonger: are you asking rhetorical questions now?
[05:28] <blazemonger> dont know
[05:28] <blujay> blazemonger: methinks you need to look inside yourself for the answers you need :)
[05:28] <blazemonger> i'm just trying to find a distro that takes up no more than one cd and that will actually work
[05:28] <Red_Death> blazemonger: damnsmalllinux worked fine for me
[05:28] <craigbass1976> blujay, spoken liek a true Jedi...
[05:28] <metguru> adaptr: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38978/
[05:28] <Munchkinguy> blazemonger: Loaded question.
[05:28] <blujay> craigbass1976: haha
[05:29] <Red_Death> everything ubuntu-wise is fine, but my sound just stopped working sometime last night. I'm not sure if it means anything but I had just installed beryl around that time... any ideas?
[05:29] <blazemonger> so you're sure it wouldnt be my kernel
[05:29] <craigbass1976> blujay, or therapist.  Which are you?
[05:29] <wastrel> knoppix is the famous livecd distro
[05:29] <blujay> blazemonger: try this: http://linuxfromscratch.org =)
[05:29] <blujay> craigbass1976: mm...little bit of both I think
[05:29] <nix_ferret> Anyone know where the png's for the filesystem icons in nautilus are?
[05:29] <blazemonger> blujay that onez hard
[05:29] <arpegius> from a ubuntu 6.06 livecd, what command can i run to go straight to a shell?
[05:29] <blujay> blazemonger: maybez zo butz youz learnz lotz
[05:29] <blazemonger> i'm about to try the same prog that crashed again
[05:29] <blazemonger> and make sure it's not linux
[05:29] <craigbass1976> blujay, can I ask you some questions then?  My lightsaber broke the other day and I can't seem to get it to work anymore... ;)
[05:29] <Munchkinguy> arpegius: log out of gnome, then log in to shell
[05:29] <blazemonger> is it linux thats crashing or is it the program or both?
[05:29] <blujay> blazemonger: if I don't hear from you in 5 minutes I'll call 911
[05:30] <Red_Death> Anybody willing to help me get my sound working?
[05:30] <blujay> craigbass1976: I recommend thinkgeek.com, they have some nice ones :)
[05:30] <adaptr> metguru: sorry, must have been sleeping earlier... you need to edit /etc/fstab, and change line 11
[05:30] <blujay> craigbass1976: though their lights tend to go out if you actually fight with them
[05:30] <Red_Death> I'm experienced with ubuntu, and this has worked fine before, but I'm pretty sure when I installed beryl my sound stopped working.
[05:30] <driv[binge] > Does anyone know of any nice/user friendly money management/budgeting tool for Linux?
[05:30] <kitche> driv[binge] : gnucash
[05:30] <craigbass1976> blujay, Ahh, maybe that was it...
[05:30] <arpegius> i can't do anything from the f6 menu when the boot options screen first comes up? like the boot command w/ some flags or anything?
[05:30] <blazemonger> blujay so i have alot to learn about linux? so your'e sure it wouldnt be the kernel?
[05:31] <genben> Red_Death: why don;t you try ... hey, my blah blah sound card on ubuntu dapper with a stock kernel fails to initialise, what is a possible error? etc etc etc
[05:31] <driv[binge] > kitche: Thanks, I'll try it out.
[05:31] <adaptr> metguru: urp.. I meanplease post /etc/fstab, I haven';t seen that at all yet...
[05:31] <blujay> blazemonger: no, I'm not sure about anything.  I'm not even at your computer.  I can't help you any more, I'm afraid.  I've already told you my recommendations.  Now the rest is up to you.  :)
[05:31] <wastrel> calling gnucash user friendly is generous :] 
[05:31] <adaptr> metguru: /etc/fstab --> pastebin
[05:31] <Red_Death> genben: It's onbored realtek sound, on edgy, and it's initialising...
[05:31] <blazemonger> blujay..damn :(
[05:31] <blujay> wastrel: but it's a great app, though
[05:31] <wastrel> but they have a good tutorial nowadays
[05:31] <blujay> blazemonger: yes, I can't fix it for you, sorry :p
[05:31] <craigbass1976> driv[binge] , I've heard gnucash is ok, but I installed it long enough to see that it doesn't LOOK real friendly. Maybe it is though.  I'm curtrently trying to figure out how to get ledgersmb installed, since I heard it is something like Quickbooks (minus the "really sucks" part)
[05:32] <fnord_> i need some help with openchrome,every time i edit my xorg.conf it breaks its im just replaceing vesa with via under the device setting,which ive installed the drivers for
[05:32] <blazemonger> i think it's my friend that built my system for me ..he always said linux is gay
[05:32] <blazemonger> maybe he cursed it
[05:32] <blujay> blazemonger: part of the fun is fixing it yourself.  I just spent 90 minutes getting fuzzyocr to work in SpamAssassin to filter out image spam.  now finally it works!
[05:32] <metguru> adaptr: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38979/
[05:32] <blujay> blazemonger: you shouldn't trust any system built by someone who says something like that :)
[05:32] <wastrel> craigbass1976:  there's a very nice tutorial for gnucash nowadays that almost got me using it :]   i'm still a bit of a dunce financially is my problem
[05:32] <blazemonger> did it crash on you blujay
[05:32] <Red_Death> blazemonger: what blujay said is very true
[05:32] <Pelo> craigbass1976,  gnucash it real accounting,  for home users  kmymoney or grisbi is  friendlier
[05:33] <blazemonger> but now he's praising linux though
[05:33] <Red_Death> yea, wouldn't trust that guy
[05:33] <blujay> blazemonger: uh...no...it's a system of Perl modules...not binary stuff...not 3D stuff...not driver stuff...not kernel stuff...so no...not everything crashes, ok!?  :)
[05:33] <genben> Red_Death: have you run alsmixer? volume unmuted? headphones in? what does lsmod indicate?
[05:33] <blazemonger> this ACPI stuff is wwierd i cant disable acpi on this motherboard
[05:33] <craigbass1976> wastrel, I'm looking to help businesses switch to OpenSource, and I heard that gnucash probably wouldn't satisfy their needs.  That is also mostly why I didn't bother with it.
[05:33] <blujay> blazemonger: whoa!  why did you suddenly bring up ACPI??
[05:34] <genben> alsamixer*
[05:34] <Munchkinguy> arpegius: Just a second
[05:34] <craigbass1976> driv[binge] , for my business, I set up a mysql database and wrote shell scripts to enter info.  I could give you a hand with something simple like that if you want.
[05:34] <adaptr> metguru: same as mine... then the original permissions for /media/hda1 were too restrictive
[05:34] <Jesse> does any1 know a way of accesing your windows files linux????
[05:34] <Red_Death> genben: it shows up in lsmod, alsamixer shows everything at full volume, headphones are nonexistient, everything is plugged in.
[05:34] <wastrel> i don't know from business accounting
[05:35] <blujay> !tell jesse ntfs
[05:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about  tell jesse ntfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:35] <blujay> doh
[05:35] <blazemonger> blujayi how do i disable acpi on a motherboard that wont let me do it in the bios?
[05:35] <blujay> !ntfs
[05:35] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[05:35] <genben> i didn't expect you to be so literal but ok
[05:35] <adaptr> metguru: unmount the partition: umount /media/hda1
[05:35] <metguru> adaptr: ok
[05:35] <blazemonger> i think it's this acpi crap
[05:35] <blazemonger> acpi=pointless
[05:35] <DaGimp> lol blaze
[05:35] <DaGimp> I've felt that
[05:35] <adaptr> metguru: now set permissions: chmod 777 /media/hda1
[05:35] <Red_Death> genben: what?
[05:35] <blujay> blazemonger: well, you might try adding something to the kernel boot line...I recommend searching the Ubuntu wiki for info
[05:35] <craigbass1976> Jesse, probably not if the windows files are on an ntfs filesystem.  When I used to dual boot, I had a fat32 partition where I kept data that I wanted to access in both OSes during the transistion phase.
[05:35] <driv[binge] > craigbass1976, I'm a teenager that wants to budget his wild expenses. That might be a bit overkill, but thanks for the offer. :)
[05:35] <blazemonger> i had a p3 before and shit NEVER crashed cuz i had no acpi crap
[05:35] <Red_Death> genben: oh, i really don't know where to look it shows up fine everywhere.
[05:36] <blujay> Jesse: look up fuse and ntfs, ntfs3g, etc
[05:36] <genben> Red_Death: hangon
[05:36] <Red_Death> genben: alright
[05:36] <craigbass1976> driv[binge] , actually, mine is a lot simpler than gnucash.  I was worried you'd need something more intense.  Do you know mysql at all?
[05:36] <HighLife> hey can anyone help me out with grub?
[05:37] <blujay> HighLife: what's the problem?  just ask
[05:37] <metguru> adaptr: now do I mount it again?
[05:37] <driv[binge] > No sir, which is why I chicken out. My deepest experiences with any form of programming are kiddie scripts for mIRC.
[05:37] <adaptr> metguru: yes, mount /media/hda1
[05:37] <adaptr> metguru: that should do it
[05:37] <HighLife> I reformated the other day and it seems as though ubuntu did not install grub
[05:37] <genben> Red_Death: have you looked through /var/log/dmesg ?
[05:37] <HighLife> It boots straight to windows
[05:37] <blujay> HighLife: please describe the symptoms :)
[05:37] <genben> to make sure that the sound card was loaded?
[05:38] <blujay> HighLife: ah
[05:38] <metguru> adaptr: nope
[05:38] <fnord_> i need some help with openchrome,every time i edit my xorg.conf it breaks its im just replaceing vesa with via under the device setting,which ive installed the drivers for
[05:38] <adaptr> HighLife: it did install grub, just not on the drive that the bios boots from :)
[05:38] <blujay> HighLife: did you install ubuntu?
[05:38] <adaptr> metguru: nope what ?
[05:38] <Jesse> blujay: yeah i just did,  and i dont understand what it wants me to do. and by the way im not very computer literate
[05:38] <HighLife> yes
[05:38] <blujay> Jesse: well, sorry...there's only so much we can do from this end...I recommend you read the howtos on the wiki and take your time and work your way through it
[05:38] <Some_Person> i installed ubuntu 6.06, and i need to configure my adsl, my isp is AT&T (formerly SBC) Yahoo
[05:38] <praka123> hello i removed "dpkg" package itself from my edgy(sorry!).. how to reinstall
[05:38] <metguru> adaptr: it didn't work.. should i try enabling the root acount and logging into that, then changing the permissions using the properties?
[05:39] <blujay> HighLife: adaptr is probably right
[05:39] <Some_Person> AT&T Yahoo has no instructions
[05:39] <adaptr> metguru: wait.. are you telling me you tried to change the permissions without using sudo ?
[05:39] <blujay> HighLife: try this...boot into a shell from the ubuntu cd, then run grub-install
[05:39] <metguru> adaptr: i used sudo
[05:39] <craigbass1976> Some_Person, is it just a cat5 cable coming in?  I'm not familiar with adsl
[05:39] <kitche> Some_Person: what kind of modem do you have an ethernet one?
[05:39] <Jesse> blujay: thanks ill work on that
[05:39] <HighLife> alright im on the live cd right now
[05:39] <adaptr> metguru: so, when unmounted, does it show up as rwxrwxrwx ?
[05:39] <metguru> adaptr: the command line says root@lukas: ~
[05:39] <Some_Person> its ethernet
[05:39] <Red_Death> genben: I'm not seing anything in there related to sound, I however did notice that hyperthreading is disabled although this is a P4 3.6, but that's for another time
[05:40] <blujay> HighLife: ok, bring up a shell and run "sudo grub-install /dev/hdwhatever"
[05:40] <Some_Person> its an adsl modem on my ethernet
[05:40] <blujay> HighLife: probably hda
[05:40] <adaptr> metguru: then you are logged in as root
[05:40] <kitche> !pppoe|Some_Person
[05:40] <ubotu> Some_Person: Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[05:40] <genben> Red_Death: yes, hyperthreading later ... type this => cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp ... this will see if you have permission to mess with the sound card and just maybe if it is actually working, you will hear a horrible noise come out of your speakers
[05:40] <craigbass1976> Some_Person, awesome.  What did you have to configure in windows to make it work?
[05:40] <Some_Person> i used the cd they have
[05:40] <Some_Person> but its not for linux
[05:40] <adaptr> blujay: that's exactly what won't work now, either - he has to guesstimate what grub will call the drive the bios actually boots from
[05:40] <genben> Red_Death: ctrl-C to stop bad noise
[05:40] <adaptr> blujay: and do it from within grub itself
[05:41] <donohue> in the middle of a dist-upgrade, something died
[05:41] <Red_Death> genben: :) I know, it's fun noob-mess-with-trick
[05:41] <genben> k
[05:41] <craigbass1976> Some_Person, you plugged the cable into the linux box and nothing happened?
[05:41] <metguru> adaptr: no... it comes up as drwxr-xr-x
[05:41] <Red_Death> genben: it's going but I'm not hearing anything
[05:41] <Some_Person> the linux box is the same machine
[05:41] <HighLife> haha what exactly do you mean by bring up a shell :P
[05:41] <blujay> adaptr: um...look at "man grub-install"  why won't that work?
[05:41] <adaptr> metguru: then the permission change failed, is this when mounted or when unmounted ?
[05:41] <HighLife> im in the console
[05:41] <arrenlex> donohue: Can you please give us a problem, error message, and question? It is more helpful than a vague factual statement.
[05:41] <Some_Person> and, no, i cant access the internet
[05:41] <genben> basic hardeware faultfinding ... is all plugged into correct locations etc?
[05:41] <donohue> sure
[05:41] <donohue> i'm upgrading a 5.10 to 6.06
[05:41] <Red_Death> genben: yes, was just rechecking all the cords and such, everything is plugged in and volume is up
[05:41] <metguru> adaptr: im still mounted
[05:42] <adaptr> blujay: because... the whole issue is that grub does not see the same drive 0 as the bios does at boot-time
[05:42] <adaptr> metguru: unmount
[05:42] <donohue> the upgrade-manager thing didn't give the option to upgrade
[05:42] <metguru> adaptr: ok
[05:42] <Red_Death> genben: I installed beryl last night, the sound stopped working around then...any ideas?
[05:42] <donohue> so I did it by find and replace in /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:42] <kitche> donohue: it does if you do sudo update-manager -c
[05:42] <blujay> adaptr: hm...maybe so...
[05:42] <blazemonger> blujay now i disab;led acpi and billard-gl either just locks up and sends me back to gdm login
[05:42] <adaptr> blujay: so grub installs to its currently-guessed drive 0, which is not the boot drive to the bios
[05:42] <Rux> i installed xubuntu ltsp but i have no idea how to connect to it.  any suggestions?  clients?
[05:42] <regal> im installing ubuntu in parallels
[05:42] <blujay> HighLife: how many hard drives do you have?
[05:42] <genben> Red_Death: k, have you ran alsamixer and unmuted the master channel and made sure that PCM is selected
[05:42] <HighLife> 2
[05:42] <blazemonger> but it didnt freeze my machine though
[05:42] <blazemonger> i had to move my mouse
[05:42] <genben> ah, who the hell is beryl?
[05:42] <adaptr> blujay: one will get you ten he has SATA :)
[05:42] <HighLife> 2 sata drives
[05:42] <blujay> HighLife: which one did you install ubuntu on?
[05:42] <metguru> adaptr: drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 4096 2006-12-25 06:44 .
[05:42] <HighLife> sdb
[05:43] <adaptr> genben: beryl is god
[05:43] <metguru> adaptr: thats after I unmounted
[05:43] <blazemonger> thats what happens when i try to fullscren it blujay
[05:43] <blujay> adaptr: I'm still on 5-year-old hardware, no SATA experience here :)
[05:43] <Munchkinguy> genben: a wonderful person
[05:43] <donohue> i followed the alternative in the wiki, with sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:43] <blujay> blazemonger: ok, check the logs for errors
[05:43] <donohue> but that terminal window... disappeared
[05:43] <arrenlex> !enter | donohue
[05:43] <ubotu> donohue: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:43] <genben> a WM, i know
[05:43] <HighLife> the same one windows is on
[05:43] <adaptr> metguru: weird... lemme think on that
[05:43] <donohue> sorry.
[05:43] <blazemonger> wheres the syslog stuff again
[05:43] <genben> i don't know why a WM install would kill sound
[05:43] <kitche> donohue: well that's not really the way that your suppose to dis-upgrade anyways
[05:43] <Red_Death> genben: yes, it recognises the onboard and everything is unmuted. it's a HDA Intel C-Media CMI9880 if that helps
[05:43] <Munchkinguy> genben: See http://www.googlism.com/index.htm?ism=beryl&type=1
[05:43] <blujay> HighLife: is that the master or slave drive?
[05:43] <HighLife> master
[05:43] <HighLife> im pretty sure
[05:43] <kitche> genben: since it probably uses a sound daemon
[05:43] <Red_Death> genben: I had to do some minor xorg.conf edits, but sound worked after that part
[05:44] <Red_Death> kitche: nope, no sound
[05:44] <driv[binge] > Oh. gnucash is pretty.
[05:44] <Red_Death> lol
[05:44] <HighLife> u know there both sata
[05:44] <blujay> adaptr: haha you were right
[05:44] <kitche> Red_Death: doesn't mean that sound_daemon isn't holding it and not outputing sound
[05:44] <HighLife> so there shouldnt be a master and i slave
[05:44] <genben> i am not familiar with beryl
[05:44] <arrenlex> donohue: Let's try again. What seems to be the problem?
[05:44] <Red_Death> genben: 3d windowmanager, uses nvida drivers with XGL to make pretty windows and such.
[05:44] <Neilp> Hi, can someone help me setup my wireless connection?
[05:45] <blujay> HighLife: I know nothing about SATA.  so try the following, and if they don't work, I can't help you...look on the Wiki I guess: $grub install /dev/hda or $grub install /dev/hdb
[05:45] <Red_Death> genben: lemme check xorg.conf for something odd,
[05:45] <genben> please do
[05:45] <donohue> ok: I tried following the instructions in the wiki here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades, but the terminal window disappeared
[05:45] <Red_Death> kitche: where would I go to make it not hold the sound up if it were?
[05:45] <blazemonger> blujaydo you think the fact that i have this PNPBIOS may have a effect
[05:45] <blazemonger> although i have pnp disabled
[05:45] <blujay> blazemonger: why do you have PNP disabled?  and what kind of CPU do you have?
[05:45] <blazemonger> blujay i have a p4
[05:45] <IdleOne> how can I see what video card i have?
[05:45] <adaptr> metguru: I just remembered... havent; had to mess with that for a long time :(
[05:45] <blazemonger> blujay is pn p supposed to be enabled? i can reboot and enable it again in the bios
[05:46] <arrenlex> IdleOne: lspci | grep Display
[05:46] <blujay> blazemonger: I dunno, try it if you want
[05:46] <adaptr> metguru: you have to change its permissions when it IS mounted, as the permissions are set on the partition's root directory, not on the directory it is mounted on
[05:46] <Neilp> Hi, can someone help me setup my wireless connection?
[05:46] <blazemonger> what else would you reccomend? I think im on a closer path getting this billard-gl game working
[05:46] <Red_Death> kitche: I'm not even seeing a sound section in xorg, should there be?
[05:46] <IdleOne> arrenlex, that didnt return anything
[05:46] <donohue> Currently I suspect the upgrade process is crashed and I want to recover properly
[05:46] <metguru> adaptr: ok
[05:46] <adaptr> metguru: when mounted, run: chmod 777 /media/hda1
[05:46] <blujay> blazemonger: like I said, look in the logs for errors...I already said that but you seem to ignore half of what I suggest :)
[05:46] <blazemonger> blujay it now just locks up and sends me back to the login screen
[05:46] <arrenlex> IdleOne: Run lspci and pastebin the output.
[05:46] <kitche> Red_Death: no xorg.conf doesn't have a sound section
[05:46] <Munchkinguy> arpegius: Sorry I took so long; I remembered a trick from Fedora Core, but didn't know if it worked in Ubuntu, so I tested it.
[05:46] <blujay> blazemonger: something's probably segfaulting
[05:47] <adaptr> metguru: if there is ANYthing already in there, run chmod -R 777
[05:47] <blazemonger> blujay how can i tell if it's from billard-gl
[05:47] <Red_Death> kitche: ok didn't think so, where would I go to restart sound daemon (or which command?)
[05:47] <Red_Death> blazemonger: what isn't working for you?
[05:47] <Munchkinguy> arpegius: log out of Ubuntu, then press Ctrl-Alt-F1
[05:47] <blujay> blazemonger: for the last time...look in the logs
[05:47] <kitche> Red_Death: don't know are you using beryl with gnome?
[05:47] <Red_Death> kitche: indeed
[05:47] <blazemonger> Red_Death a game called billard-gl that i got from the repositories
[05:47] <kitche> Red_Death: ok then it's probably ESD or flash if you played something recently with it
[05:47] <Red_Death> blazemonger: do sudo apt-get billard-gl
[05:48] <trev_> can anyone tell me how to run a loki installer file (.run)?
[05:48] <Red_Death> kitche: oh flash might be it
[05:48] <adaptr> blazemonger: ~/.xsession-errors has all the info the system has about X errors
[05:48] <Red_Death> kitche: i did an apt-get on the notfree flash one, how would i remove it
[05:48] <blujay> trev_: chmod it +x and then ./whatever.run
[05:48] <Munchkinguy> OK... I helped someone. Can someone please help me?
[05:48] <blazemonger> could no errors in that file
[05:48] <adaptr> blazemonger: ANY application that causes X errors writes there
[05:48] <blujay> trev_: you might need to run it as root if you want it in /usr/local/games
[05:48] <blazemonger> Red_Death i did
[05:48] <IdleOne> !paste
[05:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:48] <Red_Death> blazemonger: still no luck?
[05:49] <blujay> blazemonger: are you using two computers?
[05:49] <blazemonger> nope no luck at all man im not having any luck
[05:49] <blazemonger> not two computers
[05:49] <blazemonger> just one
[05:49] <blujay> blazemonger: ok, here's a problem...
[05:49] <blujay> blazemonger: most likely, when it crashes and restarts gdm, it clears out the ~/.xsession-errors file
[05:49] <Arigato> how do I paginate stuff in the console?
[05:49] <roler> Anyone know of a GTK2/metacity Theme that has a texturized vista type panel bar but that has a nice color theme ?
[05:49] <adaptr> blazemonger: this billard-gl game, is that the command ?
[05:49] <donohue> arrenlex: any suggestions for recovering this dist-upgrade gone wrong? thanks for your patience...
[05:49] <adaptr> Arigato: with less, less is more
[05:50] <Red_Death> kitche: I'm removing the flash-nonfree, one second
[05:50] <Munchkinguy> Who should I talk to for reviewing a proposed spec in Launchpad?
[05:50] <metguru> adaptr: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38982/ this is what it shows me now
[05:50] <blazemonger> yah adaptr
[05:50] <blujay> Munchkinguy: have you searched the wiki for information?
[05:50] <blazemonger> it's in the games menu too
[05:50] <adaptr> blazemonger: then start it from a console with strace, that should tell you all there is to know
[05:50] <Red_Death> kitche: I uninstalled it, but still no sound, I'm positive it's that though
[05:50] <arrenlex> donohue: I don't know why your terminal window disappeared or how to make sure it doesn't happen again, if that's what you're asking. If you're having problems installing packages using apt or dpkg, I could help you there; but I've never upgraded like that. Sorry. = /
[05:51] <blujay> adaptr: brilliant
[05:51] <adaptr> blazemonger: it is an X game, so the output from strace will be clean
[05:51] <metguru> adaptr: the file was able to be copied into it
[05:51] <blazemonger>  gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X error - Restarting :0
[05:51] <kitche> Red_Death: yea there is a fix but I can't remember it right now :( if you played flash then stopped playing it and lost your sound
[05:51] <adaptr> metguru: yes, this was the whole of the problem, but I have no idea how Ubuntu would mess this up - did you add the mount yourself ?
[05:51] <Red_Death> kitche: i've restared ubuntu, it's still not working after that, but yea that was definately it
[05:51] <blujay> blazemonger: ooh, ooh...look in the X log file
[05:52] <blazemonger> how do i use strace
[05:52] <Z_Morek> anyone know why ubuntu gdm login screen plays sounds but lspci isn't showing my sound card and mplayer/mythfrontend won't play audio
[05:52] <blazemonger> adaptr how do i get it to work?
[05:52] <metguru> adaptr: no, i just installed ubuntu a few days ago and didn't do anything
[05:52] <adaptr> blazemonger: the billard crap segfaulted a window routine.. bad coding, or just the wrong version
[05:52] <metguru> adaptr: i was wondering why i didn't have permission myself
[05:52] <blazemonger> adaptr it segfaulted a window routine ?
[05:53] <blujay> Z_Morek: how many sound cards?
[05:53] <arrenlex> Z_Morek: run mplayer from the command line on a music file and pastebin everything it says, please.
[05:53] <blazemonger> bad coding or wrong version? in ubuntu? how do they get the wrong version in ubuntu?
[05:53] <adaptr> metguru: the reason is probably, that you did not assign it a mount point during installation - it sort of left it alone, to root, until you were ready :)
[05:53] <Z_Morek> one sound card
[05:53] <driv[binge] > Hm. gnucash help refuses to open. Thoughts?
[05:53] <blujay> blazemonger: it looks like this is boiling down to what I said earlier...file a bug report!
[05:53] <Z_Morek> the issue is in video I got from a tunercard
[05:53] <blazemonger> is there a better way i can run this game in linux like i have before
[05:53] <arrenlex> driv[binge] : Run it from the command line.
[05:53] <Red_Death> driv[binge] : go into terminal and type gnucash, tell me what happens
[05:53] <Munchkinguy> blujay: No success.
[05:53] <blazemonger> blujay..the time ive filed a bug report there was never a fix
[05:54] <metguru> adaptr: it still says, when i open the properties (on the desktop icon), and click view permissions, that only root has write access, why is that?
[05:54] <blujay> Munchkinguy: well, I guess you could look at existing specs, and e-mail whoever approved or reviewed it
[05:54] <blazemonger> maybe cuz it didnt affect the system
[05:54] <adaptr> blazemonger: the game is calling a gdm routine in an incorrect way - that's what the error says, and it could be due to a different version being required by the game
[05:54] <driv[binge] > Red_Death, it opens again
[05:54] <blujay> blazemonger: you told me earlier that you didn't actually file a bug report
[05:54] <arrenlex> Z_Morek: So all other audio is played fine?
[05:54] <Red_Death> driv[binge] : what opens again?
[05:54] <blazemonger> adaptr why is the game in there then?
[05:54] <driv[binge] > Red_Death, gnucash
[05:54] <blujay> adaptr: gdm is the desktop manager...shouldn't have anything to do with the game
[05:54] <blazemonger> i get stuff like that all the time
[05:54] <Z_Morek> arrenlex: the only other audio I've heard is the sounds that play at the gdm login screen
[05:54] <blujay> blazemonger: go to launchpad.net and FILE A BUG REPORT, please
[05:54] <Red_Death> driv[binge] : so it works when you use it with terminal, but not from the menu?
[05:54] <adaptr> metguru: it does not say that only root has write permissions, it says that root is the *owner* - that is not  a problem
[05:54] <Z_Morek> arrenlex: i tried to cat random to dsp and nothing happened
[05:54] <Red_Death> blujay: Sucks when people like that come in here
[05:54] <blazemonger> would it make a difference blujay?
[05:55] <Red_Death> Z_Morek: have you used flash recently?
[05:55] <arrenlex> Z_Morek: Run "mplayer" on some sound file and pastebin the output please.
[05:55] <ash> Would anyone know how to send keyboard commands to X or whatever.
[05:55] <blujay> Red_Death: yeah...thanks for noticing :)
[05:55] <driv[binge] > Red_Death, gnucash opens, but the tutorial/help don't
[05:55] <Z_Morek> Red_Death: no
[05:55] <Red_Death> driv[binge] : oh, no clue
[05:55] <blazemonger> even gnome-art crashes sometimes
[05:55] <adaptr> blazemonger: you're asking for miracles, please file a bug report if you wish for answers
[05:55] <Red_Death> blujay: no problem man
[05:55] <Trixsey> Failed to start Volume Control: Failed to execute child process "gnome-volume-control" (No such file or directory). - What to do!?
[05:55] <blujay> blazemonger: sorry, but I'm through with this problem...my last words are, file a bug report.  there's nothing more we can do.
[05:55] <ash> I want to use the switch virutal desktop hotkey to spin the XGL cube every 10 seconds.
[05:55] <ash> any ideas?
[05:55] <adaptr> blujay: indeed, it does not.. but the game obviously messes with gdm.. for whatever reason
[05:56] <alekzandr> i would like to use my blackberry 7130e with ubuntu, but google shows me nothing about this working together, does anyone have any ideas about getting the two to work together?
[05:56] <Red_Death> ash: hire a mexican person to press cntrl+alt+right/left/up/down every 10 seconds :P
[05:56] <ash> !!
[05:56] <metguru> adaptr: but when i look down at 'Others:' it says Folder access: "access files"
[05:56] <Red_Death> ash: xD
[05:56] <adaptr> blujay: he's beyond help for the time being.. expects windoze-like "solutions" to all of his problems
[05:56] <blujay> adaptr: well, maybe...I'm thinking that gdm is just reacting to something further down the line, though, but I don't know...I'm no expert in this, certainly :)  hehe yeah
[05:56] <blazemonger> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-223972.html
[05:56] <adaptr> metguru: yes, and this is what grants *you* access.. you and everybody else (which is what Others means)
[05:56] <arrenlex> adaptr: If the game crashes X, gdm will restart the session.
[05:56] <Red_Death> blujay: are you familiar with the flash error when you start playing flash, then stop it, then sound doesn't work?
[05:56] <blazemonger> one person says it's a free-glut problem
[05:57] <blazemonger> freeglut is buggy
[05:57] <Red_Death> blazemonger: so go talk to that person
[05:57] <blujay> Red_Death: no...in firefox?
[05:57] <Red_Death> blujay: yes
[05:57] <adaptr> arrenlex: okay, so it is merely a response.. but still, bad behaviour
[05:57] <Dicander> I'm running Ubuntu 6.10 on a mac G4. Is there a fast way to switch between Ubuntu, Xubuntu and Kubuntu without reinstalling everything?
[05:57] <blujay> Red_Death: have you set up the firefox dsp wrapper?
[05:57] <arrenlex> adaptr: What is?
[05:57] <Red_Death> blujay: fraid not
[05:57] <Red_Death> blujay: is it just an apt get?
[05:57] <blujay> Dicander: use the session menu in your login screen
[05:57] <blujay> Red_Death: /etc/firefox/firefoxrc try setting it to "auto"
[05:57] <adaptr> arrenlex: the gdm error from strace is merely a belated response that it is restarting X *because* of an error earlier on
[05:57] <kitche> Dicander: they are all teh same but the desktop environments
[05:58] <craigbass1976> Dicander, if they're all installed, cant you just log out of the GUI, pick a different desktop, and log back in?
[05:58] <metguru> adaptr: ok, thanks a lot for your help
[05:58] <adaptr> arrenlex: the crash itself is not reported by X - as it cannot, since it crashed
[05:58] <blazemonger> why all these unstable software in ubuntu?
[05:58] <adaptr> arrenlex: should be in xorg.log, though
[05:58] <Red_Death> blazemonger: why all these 'tards in #ubuntu?
[05:58] <Red_Death> blujay: did that, now what?
[05:58] <blujay> blazemonger: because people like you refuse to help by filing bug reports?
[05:58] <Z_Morek> arrenlex: http://pastebin.ca/293087
[05:59] <blujay> Red_Death: restart firefox and see if the problem is still there...I kind of doubt this will fix it though
[05:59] <adaptr> blazemonger: there is very little unstable software in the official ubuntu repositories - if you find much to complain about, please confine yourself to using only main
[05:59] <Red_Death> blujay: i don't even have firefox running right now
[05:59] <blujay> Red_Death: ok, well, run it and see if flash has the problem
[05:59] <Z_Morek> arrenlex: it plays as root
[05:59] <squeakypant1> hey
[05:59] <Z_Morek> when I sudo
[05:59] <adaptr> blazemonger: undoubtedly some homey told you to enable the uni.multi repos, and you followed suit like a good monkey.. and now you want your money back :)
[05:59] <blazemonger> do ineed ro reinstall ubuntu
[05:59] <Z_Morek> it's a permissions issue....
[06:00] <adaptr> blazemonger: rarely if ever, so no
[06:00] <arrenlex> Z_Morek: download and run this as root: http://arrenlex.diff.be/alsaconf
[06:00] <arrenlex> Z_Morek: Then try it.
[06:00] <squeakypant1> when I boot into gnome, only the desktop appears
[06:00] <arpegius> i know it is OT but anyone know if you can get to the os x menu bar w/ the keyboard?
[06:00] <Z_Morek> arrenlex: I played it when I ran it "sudo mplayer ..."
[06:00] <blujay> ah... /ignore is nice...
[06:00] <Z_Morek> successfully
[06:00] <adaptr> blazemonger: if you mean: will it "solve" your problem, who knows...
[06:00] <Red_Death> blazemonger: this isn't windows, reinstalling doesnt fix thigns
[06:00] <squeakypant1> anyone have any idea why? i was messing with beryl when it happened (a week ago)
[06:00] <arrenlex> Z_Morek: (this is the alsa configurator script from the debian version of the alsa-utils package that I keep around for when things break :))
[06:00] <adaptr> Red_Death: not erm.. strictly true, not all of the time
[06:00] <Red_Death> blujay: i did the same :D, and i have no sound at all
[06:00] <Z_Morek> arrenlex: should I just change some permissions or groups or something?
[06:00] <blujay> Red_Death: in anything or just firefox?
[06:01] <blazemonger> theres like other progz that won't run either redguy
[06:01] <blazemonger> Red_Death
[06:01] <blazemonger> i mean
[06:01] <Red_Death> adaptr: windows reinstalling is like step two on the ladder of fixes, reinstalling ubuntu is much further down the line, unless it's a segfault
[06:01] <Red_Death> blujay: no sound at all xD
[06:01] <arrenlex> Z_Morek: All that says to me is that it's a configuration program, not a hardware program. That script will redetect your soundcard and reload your modules. Try it first.
[06:01] <squeakypants> lost a pant for a second
[06:01] <blujay> Red_Death: what kind of sound card?
[06:01] <craigbass1976> squeakypants, hehe
[06:01] <adaptr> Red_Death: after a gratuitous rm -rf /usr, reinstalling is about the only sensible option left.... and of course you're right
[06:01] <Red_Death> blujay: C-azalia 9880 or something, I said it earlier, /lastlog Red_Death and scroll up alittle
[06:01] <blazemonger> what kind of hardware does linux like?
[06:01] <joeljkp> anyone have a tip on a good console cd ripper?
[06:01] <blujay> Red_Death: hey, don't treat me like a newb :P hehe j/k
[06:01] <squeakypants> craigbass: you laughed at my joke, now you must help me :-P
[06:02] <Red_Death> adaptr: same to be said with most anything, I'm talking problems not user fuckups
[06:02] <Red_Death> blujay: :P
[06:02] <blujay> Red_Death: I assume you're using alsa?
[06:02] <Red_Death> blujay: you assumed correctly
[06:02] <blazemonger> Red_Death would you reccomend making a new kernel?
[06:02] <blujay> Red_Death: how old is that sound chipset?
[06:02] <adaptr> Red_Death: okay, well, I have run across some beautiful debian and redhat dependency hells in my time... major reasons why I don't go there no mo'
[06:02] <Red_Death> blujay: 2003 or so, it's worked before
[06:02] <blujay> Red_Death: ooh, idea... $ sudo /etc/init.d/alsa force-reload
[06:02] <Red_Death> ok
[06:02] <adaptr> Red_Death: server-wise it's 606LTS for me :)
[06:03] <Z_Morek> arrenlex: it gives me a syntax error...
[06:03] <blazemonger> dependencies also get me in ubuntu
[06:03] <blazemonger> dependency hell
[06:03] <squeakypants> is there a way for me to easily reinstall all of gnome?
[06:03] <adaptr> blazemonger: do tell
[06:03] <cappicard> finaly got to my cmos battery
[06:03] <Red_Death> adaptr: :), yea I just did a quick reinstall after trying gentoo/sabayon, far too many errors, trading one working thing for another and such
[06:03] <arrenlex> Z_Morek: Try "bash alsaconf".
[06:03] <arrenlex> Z_Morek: sudo bash alsaconf, I guess.
[06:03] <Spaghetti_Knife> How do I uninstall madwifi? When i type whereis madwifi, it gets me madwifi:.
[06:03] <Z_Morek> I tried to run it with regular shell... :-(
[06:03] <Red_Death> blujay: telling me command not found...
[06:04] <blujay> Red_Death: which command?  sudo or /etc/init.d/alsa ?
[06:04] <squeakypants> please, anyone?
[06:04] <arrenlex> Z_Morek: Still no luck?
[06:04] <Red_Death> blujay: obviously the second half
[06:04] <craigbass1976> squeakypants, I can't.  I know nothing of beryl, other than it looks wicked cool.  I have a toddler and a newborn and can't mess with it
[06:04] <adaptr> Red_Death: agreed - I 've run a gentoo server for about 2 years now, and it's neared the end of its useful lifetime for me.. I simply have not the time to fiddle with my server *that damn much*, although it sure was fun for a while, and boy do you learn a lot about Linux :)
[06:04] <danielmarsom> help!!!
[06:04] <Z_Morek> arrenlex: I'm navigating it...
[06:04] <blujay> Red_Death: well...that's what it's called on Debian...oh...wait...upstart...
[06:04] <Red_Death> adaptr: yea :P
[06:04] <squeakypants> craigbass: ha, congrats
[06:04] <adaptr> !ask|danielmarsom:
[06:04] <ubotu> danielmarsom:: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:04] <Spaghetti_Knife> How do I uninstall madwifi? When I type "whereis madwifi," I get "madwifi:."
[06:04] <blujay> Red_Death: how do you restart things with upstart?
[06:04] <blazemonger> anyone else want to try running billard-gl?
[06:05] <blazemonger> and see what happens
[06:05] <danielmarsom> adar, patience
[06:05] <Red_Death> blujay: dude I don't know, /etc/init.d/ works here too
[06:05] <danielmarsom> adaptr, patience
[06:05] <adaptr> blazemonger: I'm going to try it if you run dapper
[06:05] <Red_Death> blujay: i've restarted things like that before, but I think we're using the wrong word
[06:05] <blujay> Red_Death: well, I think you need to restart alsa...maybe, anyway...I guess rebooting would do it
[06:05] <adaptr> danielmarsom: another line for naught :)
[06:05] <Red_Death> blujay: tried that a few times, no luck :(
[06:05] <squeakypants> anyone, anyone?
[06:05] <arrenlex> Red_Death: You are trying to restart alsa?
[06:05] <adaptr> blazemonger: dapper or edgy ?
[06:05] <danielmarsom> im trying to install kde, or more specifically the kubuntu flavour, offline iwht the cd.
[06:05] <Spaghetti_Knife> Anyone get my question?
[06:05] <blujay> Red_Death: since we changed the dsp wrapper?
[06:05] <Red_Death> arrenlex: yes, what's the command
[06:06] <arrenlex> Red_Death: /etc/init.d/alsa-utils force-reload
[06:06] <Red_Death> AHA
[06:06] <danielmarsom> *with the cd.
[06:06] <Riyonuk> Im reading now that Ubuntu includes Dejavu fonts? How do I access those?
[06:06] <blazemonger> adaptr im using edgy right now..it worked perfect on dapper
[06:06] <craigbass1976> blazemonger, If you're talking about the pool game in one of the repos, then I have run it.  It was wicked slow on the box I played it with, but worked.  As I turned off features, it became playable.
[06:06] <blazemonger> on my system
[06:06] <blujay> arrenlex: on Debian it's just alsa, not alsa-utils
[06:06] <Spaghetti_Knife> Anybody get my question?
[06:06] <danielmarsom> i use apt-cdrom to add it to the sources.list
[06:06] <blazemonger> craigbass1976 it didnt freeze or crash your system!?!?!
[06:06] <Spaghetti_Knife> Anybody?
[06:06] <adaptr> blazemonger: then odds are it will work fine on my dapper as well.. so no use in even trying
[06:06] <craigbass1976> blazemonger, it was on dapper
[06:06] <Z_Morek> arrenlex: it's a permissions issue...
[06:06] <Red_Death> blujay: still no luck after that
[06:06] <danielmarsom> and apt-get update
[06:06] <adaptr> blazemonger: is it a good game ? I do like pool
[06:06] <blazemonger> craigbass1976 try it in edgy
[06:06] <arrenlex> blujay: I see. Thank you, I will make a mental note. *runs debian*
[06:06] <blazemonger> it z not bad adaptr
[06:06] <blujay> Red_Death: did it reload alsa?  did you see it killing process?
[06:06] <craigbass1976> blazemonger, no.  2.something ghz intel with 512 ram
[06:06] <Z_Morek> arrenlex: I ran it configured it etc... and it still won't run as user
[06:06] <danielmarsom> but it cant find any kubuntu packages
[06:07] <Red_Death> hexy@Fail:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils force-reload * Shutting down ALSA...                                                 [ ok ]   * Setting up ALSA...                                                    [ ok ] 
[06:07] <craigbass1976> blazemonger, onboard video
[06:07] <adaptr> blazemonger: well, something good came out of it then: I got a new game :)
[06:07] <blujay> danielmarsom: $ apt-cache policy kubuntu-desktop
[06:07] <Red_Death> then it restarted
[06:07] <Z_Morek> arrenlex: but it runs as root
[06:07] <Red_Death> as well
[06:07] <blazemonger> i have 1.something ghz intel 768 ram and billard-gl ran perfect in dapper
[06:07] <blazemonger> also have a rage 128 card
[06:07] <blazemonger> craigbass1976 see if it crashes in edgy
[06:07] <blujay> Red_Death: so you can't play any sound with ANYTHING?
[06:07] <Red_Death> blujay: nope, not at all
[06:07] <danielmarsom> blujay, W: Unable to locate package kubuntu-desktop
[06:08] <craigbass1976> blazemonger, I'm not installing edgy.
[06:08] <Red_Death> arrenlex: are you familiar with that flash error where it mucks up the sound?
[06:08] <blujay> danielmarsom: $ less /etc/apt/sources.list  (see if any cdrom lines are there)
[06:08] <blazemonger> craigbass1976 : I can't say I blame you
[06:08] <blazemonger> craigbass1976 edgy has bugs gallore
[06:08] <blujay> Red_Death: weird...I suggest you *shudder* reboot :)
[06:08] <Riyonuk> Im reading now that Ubuntu includes Dejavu fonts? How do I access those?
[06:08] <blazemonger> everything crashes in edgy
[06:08] <blujay> Red_Death: or at least restart X
[06:08] <arrenlex> Red_Death: No. Is this Flash 7 or 9? What would happen if you ran http://arrenlex.diff.be/alsaconf ?
[06:08] <Spaghetti_Knife> Can anybody help me with uninstalling madwifi?
[06:08] <blazemonger> maybe the next version of ubuntu will be more stable
[06:08] <Red_Death> arrenlex: 9
[06:08] <blujay> Spaghetti_Knife: how did you install it?
[06:09] <arrenlex> Red_Death: I havem
[06:09] <danielmarsom> blujay, deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 6.06 _Dapper Drake_ - Release i386 (20060531)] / dapper main restricted
[06:09] <arrenlex> n't heard of it
[06:09] <Spaghetti_Knife> blujay: I installed it from source, I think.
[06:09] <arrenlex> Red_Death: What symptoms? Other than no sound?
[06:09] <blujay> danielmarsom: is there some reason you're not using Edgy?
[06:09] <blujay> Spaghetti_Knife: did you use checkinstall or "make install"?
[06:09] <Red_Death> alekzandr: no sound is it :P, lemme run this alsaconf really quick
[06:09] <danielmarsom> yes, slow connection and waiting for it to arrive
[06:09] <joeljkp> anyone have a tip on a good console cd ripper?
[06:09] <Spaghetti_Knife> blujay I think "make install."
[06:09] <regal> hey guys im running ubuntu on parallels and i cant seem to use my wireless is there anyway i can use windows internet or get the driver installed?
[06:09] <danielmarsom> and small data cap
[06:10] <blujay> danielmarsom: try $ apt-get update && apt-cache policy kubuntu-desktop
[06:10] <Red_Death> arrenlex: how would I run that?
[06:10] <arrenlex> Red_Death: It's a script. Download it and run it with sudo.
[06:10] <blujay> Spaghetti_Knife: try "make uninstall" from the same directory...if that doesn't work, try building a deb package with checkinstall, then uninstalling that package...if that doesn't work, you will have to manually remove the files
[06:10] <arrenlex> Red_Death: sudo bash alsaconf is the easiest way.
[06:10] <Red_Death> ok, thats what I needed :P
[06:10] <blazemonger> edgy is the most buggy linux
[06:10] <craigbass1976> blazemonger, xchat seems to be working ok for you...
[06:11] <blujay> arrenlex: Debian has alsaconf built-in...does Ubuntu not?
[06:11] <arrenlex> blazemonger: Is there a particular reason for the FUD, or...?
[06:11] <Spaghetti_Knife> blujay How do I find madwifi?
[06:11] <blujay> Spaghetti_Knife: sorry, you know more about madwifi than I do
[06:11] <arrenlex> blujay: No. I took this script from the debian alsa-utils package. Ubuntu's doesn't have it.
[06:11] <Spaghetti_Knife> blujay When I type whereis madwifi, it gets me "madwifi:."
[06:11] <blujay> arrenlex: cool :)
[06:11] <blujay> Spaghetti_Knife: try "which madwifi"
[06:11] <arrenlex> blujay: I assume there is something equivalent somewhere. But I've always found this script exceedingly easy and convenient, so I give it to people.
[06:11] <blujay> Spaghetti_Knife: but keep in mind there's more to a package than /usr/bin/whatever
[06:11] <Munchkinguy> blazemonger: Hence the name "edgy". If you want something stable and reliable, use Dapper.
[06:11] <blujay> arrenlex: yep :)
[06:11] <Red_Death> arrenlex: ok, did it, worked fine, but now cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp doesn't work, says permission denied
[06:12] <blujay> Red_Death: are you a member of the audio group?
[06:12] <Red_Death> blujay: yes
[06:12] <blazemonger> im gonna try debian
[06:12] <blazemonger> debian testing
[06:12] <blujay> Red_Death: ls -l /dev/dsp check the permissions
[06:13] <blazemonger> di liike more up to date packages :)
[06:13] <adaptr> blazemonger: good luck, you have just seen the "Debian that works", now you're going to try plain Debian ?
[06:13] <Munchkinguy> blazemonger: What were your major problems with Ubuntu?
[06:13] <adaptr> blazemonger: Debian stable is even less up-to-date than Ubuntu
[06:13] <Red_Death> blujay: ls: /dev/dsp: No such file or directory
[06:13] <blazemonger> adaptr yah im gonna try it
[06:13] <petriborg> can anyone tell me what version of the nvidia glx drivers are being used right now in edgy?
[06:13] <danielmarsom> blujay: W: Unable to locate package kubuntu-desktop
[06:13] <blazemonger> what about debian testing?
[06:13] <blazemonger> is that any good
[06:13] <arrenlex> Red_Death: apt-get install alsa-oss
[06:13] <Red_Death> petriborg: most recent I belive, just installed it earlier
[06:13] <adaptr> blazemonger: well, couldn't hurt I guess
[06:13] <blujay> danielmarsom: did it update the package lists from the cdrom?
[06:13] <blazemonger> if ubuntu is debian that works...that's bad
[06:13] <blujay> Red_Death: try /dev/dsp0
[06:14] <danielmarsom> bljay, doesnt look like it
[06:14] <Red_Death> blujay: nope, no dsps where shoiwing up
[06:14] <fushidamn> the irregularity of debian putting out updates was half the reason ubuntu came into existance to the best of my knowledge
[06:14] <adaptr> blazemonger: if you approach Debian testing with the attitude presented here, it will.... not be a very satisfactory experience
[06:14] <danielmarsom> bljuay, doesnt look like it
[06:14] <Red_Death> arrenlex: just installed that, now what?
[06:14] <danielmarsom> blujuay, doesnt look like it
[06:14] <danielmarsom> grrr
[06:14] <blujay> Red_Death: do like arrenlex said and install alsa-oss
[06:14] <Jimerson> Anyone familiar with the 6.10 network issues on iMac G5?
[06:14] <arrenlex> Red_Death: Does it exist now?
[06:14] <Munchkinguy> blazemonger: Perhaps I can suggest an alternate distro. What were your issues with Ubuntu?
[06:14] <blazemonger> adaptr it wont?
[06:14] <Red_Death> blazemonger: I have you on ignore because you're so ignorant, I suggest going back to windows if you're not willing to do what the smart people say
[06:14] <robert_> can I selectively upgrade packages and their deps?
[06:14] <adaptr> blazemonger: more to the point, it will be a very short one
[06:14] <blazemonger> Munchkinguy:programs that would either freeze my system or restart my box back to gdm login
[06:15] <adaptr> blazemonger: what Red said, a few more negativisms and you're out
[06:15] <blujay> danielmarsom: is the cdrom in?
[06:15] <Red_Death> arrenlex: nope, still nonexistent
[06:15] <Spaghetti_Knife> blujay: Sweet, I got it working! Thanks.
[06:15] <danielmarsom> blujay, yes and mounted :)
[06:15] <blujay> Spaghetti_Knife: cool, how?
[06:15] <petriborg> red_death: i don't suppose you can actually check? this is somewhat important to me because i'm trying to get WoW working in Wine and am pretty closs but i suspect that my nvidia drivers being the 8776 version is causing it to crash on entering the world
[06:15] <blujay> danielmarsom: what happens when you run apt-cdrom?
[06:16] <Spaghetti_Knife> blujay: I found an faq that I used to install madwifi with, and when I did, I tracked it to the right directory.
[06:16] <arrenlex> Red_Death: sudo mknod /dev/dsp c 14 3
[06:16] <blujay> Spaghetti_Knife: cool
[06:16] <Spaghetti_Knife> blujay: Then I just make uninstalled.
[06:16] <blujay> danielmarsom: oh...uh...duh...
[06:16] <blujay> danielmarsom: are you using an UBUNTU CD or a KUBUNTU cd?
[06:16] <Red_Death> arrenlex: then try it?
[06:16] <danielmarsom> blujay, kubuntu
[06:16] <arrenlex> Red_Death: Does it exist yet?
[06:16] <blujay> danielmarsom: ok...what happens when you run apt-cdrom?
[06:17] <Red_Death> arrenlex: nope
[06:17] <danielmarsom> blujay, apt-cdrom add?
[06:17] <arrenlex> Red_Death: ...I don't think that's possible.
[06:17] <blujay> danielmarsom: yeah
[06:17] <arrenlex> Red_Death: What's the output of "file /dev/dsp" ?
[06:17] <trev_> can anyone tell me how you control what appears on gnomes menus?
[06:17] <Red_Death> /dev/dsp: character special (14/3)
[06:17] <Red_Death> wtf
[06:17] <blazemonger> Munchkinguy any reccomendations? Mandriva? Fedora?
[06:17] <danielmarsom> blujay, no errors,
[06:17] <blujay> trev_: maybe smeg...I dunno
[06:17] <arrenlex> Red_Death: Then it, uh, exists. xD
[06:17] <feross> hello. bash question.. I need to 'ffmpeg -i capture[001-020] .dv -target ntsc-svcd svcdout/capture[001-0020] .mpg' .... is the  [001-020]  part correct?
[06:17] <blujay> !smeg
[06:17] <ubotu> Alacarte Menu Editor is an easy-to-use menu editor for GNOME; older versions were called smeg. You can get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/alacarte/
[06:18] <johan_> how do i get latest flash for internet vids
[06:18] <blujay> danielmarsom: does it spin up the cdrom drive?
[06:18] <Red_Death> arrenlex: it's just showing up now... wtf
[06:18] <danielmarsom> blujay, yeah
[06:18] <johan_> i get ask for updates
[06:18] <Munchkinguy> blazemonger: The problem seems to be that you want stable and cutting edge at the same time.
[06:18] <arrenlex> Red_Death: Well, glad it fixed itself.
[06:18] <blujay> johan_: you need the flash9 beta package...not in ubuntu's main repos
[06:18] <Red_Death> arrenlex: anyways, why doesn't urandom work on dsp yet?
[06:18] <blujay> danielmarsom: apt-cache search kubuntu
[06:18] <Red_Death> or any sound for that matter
[06:18] <johan_> do i get flash 9 from adobe
[06:18] <Naik0> Is it possible to get photoshop in linux? :o
[06:18] <arrenlex> Red_Death: Define "doesn't work"
[06:18] <blazemonger> Munchkinguy slackware needs some updated compilers
[06:19] <blujay> johan_: I recommend you look on the ubuntu wiki for flash info
[06:19] <danielmarsom> blujay, no output
[06:19] <arrenlex> Naik0: Yes, with wine.
[06:19] <blazemonger> thatz the only thing it needs..there hasnt been a new release in forever
[06:19] <Red_Death> arrenlex: there's no sound, it shows up in alsamixer, is unmuted, everything is plugged in, no headphones...
[06:19] <trev_> does anyone know were alecart menu manager went from version 6.06?
[06:19] <robert_> can I selectively upgrade packages and their deps?
[06:19] <johan_> thanks
[06:19] <petriborg> can someone please tell me where the edgy repository lives?
[06:19] <Naik0> ah oki
[06:19] <blujay> danielmarsom: and you ran $ apt-get update ?
[06:19] <fushidamn> Red_Death: clearly the ignore it and it will fix itself solution has worked again...haah
[06:19] <fushidamn> haha I mean
[06:19] <petriborg> er nm i found it :)
[06:19] <danielmarsom> yeah
[06:19] <blazemonger> isnt it always good to have the latest packages no matter what distro you run?
[06:19] <Munchkinguy> blazemonger: If you don't mind KDE, you can use the "Other Debian that works (besides Ubuntu)"
[06:19] <Red_Death> fushidamn: :P when has it worked before?
[06:20] <Red_Death> fushidamn: oh, on that blazemonger guy?
[06:20] <Red_Death> :P
[06:20] <zcat[1] > considering 80% of computer users suffer with 'barely stable and about 5 years old'
[06:20] <blujay> Red_Death: what did you do before it stopped working?
[06:20] <adaptr> trev_: here ? http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/utils/alacarte
[06:20] <trev_> thx
[06:20] <danielmarsom> blujay, yeah
[06:20] <arrenlex> Red_Death: Could I ask you to install "mplayer-nogui" temporarily? It makes things really easy to troubleshoot...
[06:20] <blazemonger> what's the other debian that works?
[06:20] <arrenlex> blujay: He says flash broke it.
[06:20] <Munchkinguy> blazemonger: Freespire
[06:20] <fushidamn> Red_Death: at work, ignore the problem and it goes away, or someone else fixes it, who knows
[06:20] <Red_Death> blujay: the stupid halfway known flash error, where you start then stop then it breaks
[06:20] <Red_Death> fushidamn: :D
[06:20] <blujay> Red_Death: and have you rebooted *since* the sound stopped working completely?
[06:20] <Red_Death> blujay: yes
[06:21] <blujay> danielmarsom: sorry I don't know...it should work...try asking someone else for ideas or use the forums/mailing lists
[06:21] <Red_Death> arrenlex: I can't get it on it's own...
[06:21] <blazemonger> i prefer having both kde and gnome
[06:21] <blujay> Red_Death: weird :/
[06:21] <Red_Death> E: Package mplayer-nogui has no installation candidate
[06:21] <fushidamn> Red_Death: No, in reality it means that problems often get fixed when I am fixing other things...or a reboot does wonders sometimes
[06:21] <danielmarsom> blujay, true thanks man
[06:21] <blazemonger> so regular debian doesn't work?
[06:21] <blujay> Red_Death: do you have another OS you can boot into?
[06:21] <arrenlex> Red_Death: You'd need the multiverse repository.
[06:21] <blujay> danielmarsom: good luck
[06:21] <Red_Death> blujay: no
[06:21] <Munchkinguy> blazemonger: Never said that.
[06:21] <Astrozombie> hello
[06:21] <Red_Death> arrenlex: ok, lemme go fix that
[06:21] <blujay> Red_Death: a live CD?
[06:21] <Red_Death> blujay: this one xD
[06:21] <Astrozombie> How are you today?
[06:21] <adaptr> zombies!
[06:21] <blujay> Red_Death: ...are you *on* a livecd now?
[06:21] <Red_Death> blujay: LOL no
[06:22] <robert_> BLAH
[06:22] <blujay> Red_Death: ok...well try booting the cd and see if sound works
[06:22] <Munchkinguy> blazemonger: Debian stable is apparently excellent, it's just old.
[06:22] <robert_> Does anybody know if I can selectively upgrade packages and their deps?
[06:22] <blujay> Red_Death: at least we'd know it's not a hardware problem
[06:22] <blujay> robert_
[06:22] <blujay> er
[06:22] <arrenlex> robert__: apt-pinning
[06:22] <Astrozombie> Hey guys will HOST AP work for Intel 2200 bg?
[06:22] <blujay> robert_ yes you can
[06:22] <blazemonger> Munchkinguy..mm..ouch
[06:22] <fushidamn> Munchkiguy: I thought the words old and stable were interchangable?
[06:22] <adaptr> robert_: if you apt-get install a package that has a newer version available, then just that and the required dependencies will get upgraded
[06:22] <robert_> apt-pinning? I'm assuming I have to install that
[06:23] <Red_Death> arrenlex: installed mplayer-nogui, now what?
[06:23] <blazemonger> im bout to try debian
[06:23] <robert_> ah ok
[06:23] <blujay> robert_: that's usually something you do with Debian, not Ubuntu...what are you trying to upgrade from/to?
[06:23] <Astrozombie> can i install hostap from terminal?
[06:23] <arrenlex> Red_Death: Run it from the command line on a sound file of some sort, like an mp3 or ogg or wav. Pastebin all the output.
[06:23] <arrenlex> Red_Death: Command is "mplayer"
[06:23] <Red_Death> arrenlex: can i do it for a cd?
[06:23] <adaptr> robert_: you can always use -s to fake an apt-get action....
[06:23] <petriborg> hey guys can someone tell me what is the safest way to update to edgy so that i don't screw over my dapper install?
[06:23] <arrenlex> Red_Death: Uh... it would get complicated. You've nothing else?
[06:23] <arrenlex> !upgrade | petriborg
[06:23] <ubotu> petriborg: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[06:23] <Red_Death> arrenlex: nothing xD fresh install
[06:24] <johan_> E: Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfre
[06:24] <robert_> blujay- I was wondering if somebody had packaged evolution 2.8.2 yet
[06:24] <wastrel> !upgrade
[06:24] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[06:24] <Munchkinguy> fushidamn: (sardonic laugh)
[06:24] <adaptr> robert_: good habit when you don't know the exact result: "apt-get-s install whatever" will show you what it would do, but does nothing
[06:24] <fnord_> i need some help with x-org/graph. drivers
[06:24] <robert_> ah ok
[06:24] <Red_Death> arrenlex: one sec i'll just extract one track
[06:24] <Z_Morek> if anyone else is having sound issues
[06:24] <adaptr> robert_: sorry, should be apt-get -s; mind the gap!
[06:24] <Z_Morek> there's a guide on an ubutnu site...
[06:24] <Astrozombie> Hello?
[06:25] <Z_Morek> I just lost the url tho...
[06:25] <adaptr> zombies !
[06:25] <arrenlex> Red_Death: http://arrenlex.diff.be/cgnu_fightsong.mp3
[06:25] <fowlduck> Gerald Ford died today at 93
[06:25] <Red_Death> ewwwwww
[06:25] <arrenlex> Red_Death: Shortest clip I have....
[06:25] <Z_Morek> ANYONE WITH SOUND PROBLEMS
[06:25] <robert_> heh, yeah
[06:25] <Z_Morek> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[06:25] <arrenlex> Red_Death: Hope you don't mind homestar.
[06:25] <adaptr> Z_Morek: we thank you for not shouting
[06:25] <Z_Morek> I had to add my users to the audio group
[06:25] <Red_Death> arrenlex: i'll just ip this stuff really quick, 3 minutes left :P
[06:25] <Astrozombie> can i install hostap from terminal?
[06:25] <Z_Morek> I just wanted to get it out there because I had a huge problem earlier
[06:25] <Astrozombie> through apt-get?
[06:25] <robert_> adaptr- what are 'Super Cow Powers' ? :
[06:25] <Z_Morek> and I get the sense there's others
[06:25] <robert_> :P*
[06:25] <arrenlex> Red_Death: The file is only 250kb xD
[06:25] <adaptr> Z_Morek: also, pasting forum posts is.. well, needy, for one thing
[06:25] <Red_Death> arrenlex: but it's ew
[06:25] <Red_Death> :)
[06:26] <Red_Death> this is deftones, good shit
[06:26] <adaptr> robert_: sjeez how long has it been? :)
[06:26] <Z_Morek> it's not mine
[06:26] <Z_Morek> it's a guide...
[06:26] <zcat[1] > Z_Morek: if you create them with the gui tool I think it adds groups for you.. adduser doesn't
[06:26] <arrenlex> Red_Death: What's ew?
[06:26] <Z_Morek> nevermind
[06:26] <adaptr> robert_: how *are* they doing these days, anyway ?
[06:26] <Z_Morek> I'm all set
[06:26] <Red_Death> arrenlex: that song
[06:26] <Red_Death> :)
[06:26] <arrenlex> Red_Death: -__-
[06:26] <Z_Morek> that was a guide for all sound problems
[06:26] <Red_Death> arrenlex: :D
[06:26] <Z_Morek> comprehensive...
[06:26] <Astrozombie> :'(
[06:26] <Z_Morek> peace all
[06:26] <robert_> meh- same old, same old :P
[06:27] <Astrozombie> Dear User, Can i have some assitance plz.
[06:27] <arrenlex> !ask | Astrozombie
[06:27] <ubotu> Astrozombie: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:27] <Red_Death> lol
[06:27] <Red_Death> that's great
[06:27] <fowlduck> Gerald Ford died today at 93
[06:27] <Red_Death> OH SNAP, oh wait, I just realized I don't care
[06:27] <arrenlex> fowlduck: Who's that?
[06:27] <Astrozombie> Have you guys got Host AP working on your Wifi Cards?
[06:27] <rapid-> HHHHH
[06:28] <fowlduck> arrenlex: former president of the US
[06:28] <Red_Death> rapid-: +a a a a a a?
[06:28] <Red_Death> fowlduck: anybody that slowly led the us down this downward spiral deserves to die anyways, I can't wait to move away
[06:28] <Astrozombie> does anyone know what host ap is?
[06:29] <fowlduck> RedKrieg: riiight
[06:29] <rapid-> Astrozombie: a host ap is a access point.
[06:29] <Astrozombie> good.
[06:29] <fowlduck> RedKrieg: you should check out his track record before you judge
[06:29] <robert_> fowlduck- I heard.
[06:29] <adaptr> Astrozombie: think you can enlighten us now with what your problem is ?
[06:29] <Astrozombie> I went to Intel's website. and they have a random page dedicated to IT, i was wonderin how i can install it.
[06:30] <Astrozombie> look here http://www.intel.com/cd/ids/developer/asmo-na/eng/283432.htm
[06:30] <robert_> haha
[06:30] <adaptr> first you would have to explain what you mean by "host ap workig *on* a wifi card" - it's not readily apparent
[06:31] <Astrozombie> that webpage says i cant install HOstap with modifications.
[06:31] <Astrozombie> Wich i dont fully under stand.
[06:31] <rapid-> Astrozombie, So you want to run your wireless card as a access point?
[06:31] <Astrozombie> yes
[06:31] <adaptr> if you mean you want to use a wifi NIC *as* an AP, that would require support for ... indeed, modifications
[06:31] <Red_Death> arrenlex: http://pastebin.com/845584
[06:32] <vexati0n> is it just me or did a recent wine update screw with WoW ?
[06:32] <rapid-> adaptr: an atheros based chipset will just need software
[06:32] <rapid-> vexati0n: check out cedega
[06:32] <rapid-> !cedgea
[06:32] <Red_Death> vexati0n: i'm using 8776 if that's what you were wondering
[06:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cedgea - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:32] <rapid-> !cedega
[06:32] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[06:32] <arrenlex> Red_Death: I strongly suggest you try using the correct filename ;)
[06:32] <Astrozombie> Thats what im wondering.
[06:32] <adaptr> rapid-: yes, but atheros has excellent linux support generally.. intel's is only so-so
[06:32] <Astrozombie> It doesnt say if it s atheros
[06:32] <rapid-> Astrozombie: a lspci will show you that.
[06:32] <Red_Death> arrenlex: i just did sat<tab>, to play the folder, wouldn't that work?
[06:33] <Astrozombie> rapid just type that command
[06:33] <rapid-> Astrozombie: yes.
[06:33] <arrenlex> Red_Death: Because you have several files that start with Saturday\ Night\ Wrist/ in that folder.
[06:33] <Red_Death> >:E
[06:33] <arrenlex> Red_Death: It went as far as it could and needs a few more letters now.
[06:33] <Red_Death> no I don't
[06:33] <Red_Death> I have 12 files, each one an ogg song
[06:33] <Red_Death> 01, 02, etc
[06:33] <Red_Death> hahahah
[06:34] <rapid-> Astrozombie: if it shows you Atheros chipset anywhere, then use madwifi to act as AP + host at the same time.
[06:34] <Astrozombie> Rapid what am i looking for.
[06:34] <Red_Death> it's playing back now, but I get no sound
[06:34] <arrenlex> Red_Death: ....pastebin?
[06:34] <Astrozombie> the words atheros?
[06:34] <Red_Death> arrenlex: about to
[06:34] <rapid-> Astrozombie: yes./ i will brb.! gtg
[06:34] <XiXaQ> how can I find out how much RAM I need in order to run Ubuntu without swap?
[06:34] <Astrozombie> It seems i dont see that.
[06:35] <adaptr> XiXaQ: run ubuntu for a week.. do everything with it that you need to.. then see what the maximum used amount of virtual memory was
[06:35] <adaptr> XiXaQ: that is how much ram you will need
[06:35] <XiXaQ> how can I see the maximum used amount of virtual memory?
[06:36] <adaptr> XiXaQ: the trick is, of course, that you cannot in advance know which programs you will run a year from now
[06:36] <Keyseir> I just got a new usb 2 card. Installed it, seems like it's working. How do I figure out the /dev/whatever of the external hard drive I connected? It used to be sda or sda1 on my usb1 slot.
[06:36] <XiXaQ> adaptr, yes, I can. :)
[06:36] <adaptr> XiXaQ: with free, you can check it regularly when you have a lot of programs running, or make a cron job to write free -m to a file every minute or so
[06:36] <Red_Death> arrenlex: http://pastebin.com/845587
[06:36] <adaptr> XiXaQ: wanna bet ?
[06:37] <XiXaQ> adaptr, sure.
[06:37] <arrenlex> Red_Death: No sound?
[06:37] <Red_Death> arrenlex: none
[06:37] <arrenlex> Red_Death: Pastebin the output of "amixer".
[06:37] <Red_Death> arrenlex: how do I get the output?
[06:38] <adaptr> XiXaQ: the point is, that even if you coudl, it is useless to try to, since a gig of swap will only cost some disk space, but running out of memory will start killing programs.. probably the render you were running for a whole week :)
[06:38] <arrenlex> Red_Death: Also, what happens if you run mplayer -ao oss 01\ -\ Hole\ In\ The\ Earth.ogg
[06:38] <arrenlex> Red_Death: Type in "amixer" and it gives you output.
[06:38] <Astrozombie> RAPID you back?
[06:38] <neurotech> How do I find out what architecture of ubuntu i'm running
[06:38] <tonyyarusso> Could someone point me in the right direction for getting a wiki (preferably moin - same as the Ubuntu one) set up on my server?  (Apache and all already up)
[06:39] <rapid-> Astrozombie: just now
[06:39] <XiXaQ> adaptr, the users of the system won't be allowed access to anything other than a few office applications.  They'll be running them from inside virtual machines. Thing is, I don't want them to use swap during normal operation because it costs too much CPU.
[06:39] <adaptr> neurotech: uname -i
[06:39] <Astrozombie> ok i went to the intel site rapid, it say they have AP firmware for my card
[06:39] <Red_Death> arrenlex: http://pastebin.com/845589
[06:39] <Astrozombie> will this work?
[06:39] <rapid-> Astrozombie: what kind of wireless card?
[06:39] <Astrozombie> Intel 2200 BG
[06:39] <neurotech> adaptr: It says "unknown"
[06:39] <Jimerson> ANyone familiar with 6.10 network issues on a G5 iMac?
[06:39] <adaptr> XiXaQ: that's...silly; using swap doesn;t use CPU, it uses disk I/O
[06:39] <adaptr> neurotech: then try uname -a
[06:40] <neurotech> okay: Linux electric-boogaloo 2.6.15-27-386 #1 PREEMPT Fri Dec 8 17:51:56 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:40] <adaptr> neurotech: what kind of cpu is it ? or did you break in ?
[06:40] <adaptr> ah.. i686 .. anything from a P-2 on up
[06:40] <neurotech> it's a AMD 64bit 3ghz
[06:40] <adaptr> neurotech: better run cat/proc/cpuinfo, then
[06:40] <rapid-> Astrozombie: grab that hostap driver. and read the docs i'd say
[06:40] <arrenlex> Red_Death: Also, what happens if you run mplayer -ao oss 01\ -\ Hole\ In\ The\ Earth.ogg
[06:41] <XiXaQ> adaptr, and disk I/O uses CPU, doesn't it? If I have 20 desktops using swap from the same drive, then the system will become very slow. Am I wrong?
[06:41] <Astrozombie> WHich one? The one made for my card? Or Intels Modded HOst AP software?
[06:41] <neurotech> adaptr: I am trying to install a deb that says "Wrong architecture: amd64"
[06:41] <lemoniceblock> hi all, I know very little about Linux command lines etc and I'm having problems getting my wireless card to work
[06:41] <adaptr> neurotech: but that will tell you what architecture your CPU *is* , notr what ubuntu you're running... that is as I said it was.. the i686, or generic x86 version, *not* the 64 bit one
[06:41] <Red_Death> arrenlex: [AO OSS]  audio_setup: Can't open audio device /dev/dsp: Permission denied
[06:41] <Red_Death> Could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound.
[06:41] <Red_Death> Audio: no sound
[06:41] <Red_Death> oh shti that's 4 lines
[06:41] <Red_Death> sorry
[06:41] <adaptr> neurotech: yes, you are not running amd64
[06:41] <Red_Death> Video: no video
[06:42] <neurotech> bugger
[06:42] <neurotech> what do I do then :(
[06:42] <adaptr> XiXaQ: if you are making this system for a number of users, then you should use decent disks.. which do not use much CPU
[06:42] <rapid-> Astrozombie: i'd say the hostapd one
[06:42] <Red_Death> XiXaQ: you should be running some sort of raid of lots of small disks or a few very fast ones if you want no speed delay
[06:42] <adaptr> leave, apparently
[06:43] <Astrozombie> have you seen that page i showed you RAPID?
[06:43] <arrenlex> Red_Death: What's the output of "groups hexy" and "ls -l /dev/dsp"?
[06:43] <Red_Death> XiXaQ: a hdd or two won't be able to support more then 2-3 users without shitloads of lag
[06:43] <adaptr> XiXaQ: how many users, and what type of connection ? or real console users ?
[06:43] <Astrozombie> becuase it says to downlaod all of them.
[06:43] <neurotech> adaptr: All I want is Xgl+Compiz to work :(
[06:43] <Red_Death> hexy : hexy adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[06:43] <adaptr> neurotech: then get those, add the right repo and off you go
[06:43] <Red_Death> crw-r--r-- 1 root root 14, 3 2006-12-27 00:16 /dev/dsp
[06:43] <rapid-> Astrozombie: you will only need drivers for your card + the hostapd
[06:43] <damion> is there a installation site for compiz on edgy
[06:43] <Red_Death> arrenlex: there ^^^
[06:43] <rapid-> !compiz
[06:43] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:43] <lemoniceblock> I'm trying to follow the instructions on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5645
[06:44] <arrenlex> Red_Death: run "sudo chown root:audio /dev/dsp"
[06:44] <arrenlex> Red_Death: And then run ls -l /dev/dsp again
[06:44] <adaptr> neurotech: add this to your repos: deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb dapper beryl-svn
[06:44] <lemoniceblock> and I'm kinda stuck @ step 3b ^^;;
[06:44] <adaptr> neurotech: or edgy.. up to you
[06:44] <Astrozombie> RAPID, so get the Original Host AP, not the intel version, and the AP driver for my card?
[06:44] <Red_Death> arrenlex: crw-r--r-- 1 root audio 14, 3 2006-12-27 00:16 /dev/dsp
[06:44] <juanchito2006> Hello, after installing the fglrx driver and rebooting, the monitor gets out of sync. How do I fix this?
[06:44] <adaptr> neurotech: beryl, compiz sucks ballz, man
[06:45] <Red_Death> neurotech: beryl is much nicer, compiz is fail
[06:45] <arrenlex> Red_Death: Now try mplayer -ao oss 01\ -\ Hole\ In\ The\ Earth.ogg again
[06:45] <adaptr> Astrozombie: what convinces you that it is Intel ?
[06:45] <Red_Death> arrenlex: [AO OSS]  audio_setup: Can't open audio device /dev/dsp: Permission denied
[06:45] <Red_Death> Could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound.
[06:45] <Red_Death> Audio: no sound
[06:45] <neurotech> hmm
[06:45] <damion> openbox or fluxbox
[06:45] <arrenlex> xD
[06:45] <rapid-> Astrozombie, First download the original software components (links are provided), then download the Intel modifications and integrate the changes.
[06:45] <neurotech> Beryl using Xgl or?
[06:45] <Astrozombie> ok.
[06:45] <nix_ferret> Will beryl run on a ATI 7500 mobile?
[06:45] <Astrozombie> well could you guide me.
[06:45] <arrenlex> Red_Death: Oh, hold on.
[06:45] <toulouse> hello, i am having some trouble getting my sound to work.... i have had it working in the past, but i recieved a usb headset for christmas, so last night i played with settings until i got that working, well now, my normal speakers do not work, any suggestions?
[06:45] <adaptr> XiXaQ: how many users, and what type of connection ? real console users or remote logins ?
[06:45] <Red_Death> neurotech: yes, with the aiglx, not the xgl
[06:46] <Red_Death> errr that was for nix_ferret
[06:46] <missing> can anyone help me with sudo module-assistant build fglrx-kernel-source  im geting an error in make and it has to do with linux conf.h missing?
[06:46] <missing> !pastebin
[06:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:46] <adaptr> neurotech: certainly, works like friggin rocket science here :) well, like rockets, anyway
[06:46] <juanchito2006> !display
[06:46] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:47] <neurotech> hmmm
[06:47] <arrenlex> Red_Death: Run "sudo chmod 660 /dev/dsp" and ls -l /dev/dsp again
[06:47] <adaptr> wow.. that's horrible advice
[06:47] <arrenlex> !who | adaptr
[06:47] <ubotu> adaptr: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say, or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[06:47] <Astrozombie> Conan is gettting Heckled
[06:47] <Red_Death> arrenlex: crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 3 2006-12-27 00:16 /dev/dsp
[06:47] <rapid-> Astrozombie, theres lots of documentation, all i would be doing is reading it then guiding you.. It would be much easier for you to do that stuff yourself, heck you might even learn something
[06:48] <adaptr> I was talking to you, actually, botty-boy; if you did /etc/init.d/?dm restart and had all three installed it would start gdm, kdm AND xdm....
[06:48] <XiXaQ> adaptr, they are remote users on a their own virtual machine.
[06:48] <Astrozombie> Ok ill see what i can do.
[06:48] <toulouse> hey does anyone in here know much about sound stuff? im having some trouble getting my speakers to work now
[06:48] <toulouse> they have worked in past
[06:48] <arrenlex> Red_Death: And does mplayer -ao oss 01\ -\ Hole\ In\ The\ Earth.ogg work yet? *fingercross*
[06:48] <arrenlex> Red_Death: Because I'm out of ideas. xD
[06:48] <Astrozombie> RAPID do have to use tha WPA for it to work?
[06:48] <Red_Death> arrenlex: works, no sound though :P
[06:48] <adaptr> XiXaQ: erm.. on their own virtual remote machine.. using what ? VNC ? FreeNX ? XDMCP ? what ?
[06:48] <arrenlex> Red_Death: Yay and crap.
[06:48] <Red_Death> indeed
[06:48] <timfrost> missing: have you done 'sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)'?
[06:48] <trev_> why don't the ubuntu repositories have games like cube and alien arena?
[06:48] <slew> anyone know where i can find a Lexmark ppd?!?!
[06:49] <missing> tim: yes already done that
[06:49] <xavier__> help
[06:49] <Red_Death> arrenlex: apparently there is some easy fix for this stupid flash error but the guy that knew it left before telling me >:E
[06:49] <neurotech> Beryl isnt working so far, awesome! :(
[06:49] <missing> tim: heres my pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38984/ and my headers are installed and everything
[06:49] <arrenlex> Red_Death: Really.
[06:49] <Red_Death> arrenlex: really.
[06:49] <rapid-> Astrozombie: you don't have to use any authentication, thats up to you. i strongly suggest using some form of auth.
[06:49] <adaptr> trev_: why don't you install them from source ?
[06:49] <arrenlex> Red_Death: If you ever do hear this magical fix, let me know.
[06:49] <xavier__> lp
[06:49] <XiXaQ> adaptr, nx.
[06:49] <Red_Death> arrenlex: indeed, it's probobly some niche error that has been happening randomly to people
[06:49] <Astrozombie> RAPID Im only doing this for my nintendo ds
[06:50] <trev_> adaptr:that is hard, are there repos out there with them?
[06:50] <Red_Death> trev_: cube is in the repos, you just need to include it, have you moditifed your sources.list to include everything?
[06:50] <toulouse> anyone have any suggestions to getting some speakers to work with ubuntu? they used to work, but i configured a usb headset and now they willnot
[06:50] <missing> tim: i looked at the output and it look like it cant find linux/conf.h
[06:50] <trev_> i think so
[06:50] <rapid-> Astrozombie: thats up to you then, don't forget your neighbours may be able to access it :)
[06:50] <arrenlex> Red_Death: The last suggestion I have is "sudo wget http://arrenlex.diff.be/asound.conf -O/etc/asound.conf && sudo /etc/init.d/alsa force-reload" and see if that helps matters.
[06:50] <toulouse> i have changed back the settings, but no luck
[06:50] <adaptr> XiXaQ: ah.. NOW we're getting somewhere... and the need for separate virtual servers for each user is.. ? because, as you coulda thoughta outa for yourself, you can limit each virtual server to a specific amount of memory, so your problem would never come up
[06:50] <missing> tim: is there a way of inserting it?
[06:50] <adaptr> trev_: that is not hard, don't be silly
[06:51] <arrenlex> Red_Death: If not, "sudo rm /etc/asound.conf" and I don't know how to help you  = /
[06:51] <rgatin> can anybody help me with with a wifi device that i want to install in Ubuntu? plz
[06:51] <Red_Death> arrenlex: that doesn't work
[06:51] <adaptr> trev_: which is funner, the alien thing or the other one ?
[06:51] <arrenlex> Red_Death: What doesn't work?
[06:51] <Red_Death> arrenlex: that script
[06:51] <trev_> adaptr:could you point me to a guide that tells me how to compile from source?
[06:51] <missing> rgatin: have u tired installing ndis wrapper?
[06:51] <rapid-> !compile
[06:51] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:51] <arrenlex> Red_Death: "doesn't work"?
[06:51] <rapid-> trev_:
[06:51] <Red_Death> arrenlex: hexy@Fail:~/Deftones/Saturday Night Wrist$ sudo bash asound.conf
[06:51] <Red_Death> asound.conf: line 1: pcm.card0: command not found
[06:51] <Red_Death> asound.conf: line 3: type: hw: not found
[06:51] <Red_Death> asound.conf: line 5: card: command not found
[06:51] <neurotech> adaptr / Red_Death: How do I "uninstall" XGL?
[06:51] <Red_Death> etc...
[06:51] <rapid-> !paste
[06:51] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:51] <rgatin> you see, i am very new to Ubuntu
[06:51] <rgatin> i don't know where to get it
[06:52] <arrenlex> Red_Death: ...really. o_O
[06:52] <rapid-> Red_Death: thats for you
[06:52] <Red_Death> rapid-: I thought less then 3 lines was ok for no pastebin?
[06:52] <trev_> thx
[06:52] <rapid-> thats 4 :)
[06:52] <Red_Death> oh shit that was four
[06:52] <Red_Death> damnit
[06:52] <Red_Death> sorry I can't cout
[06:52] <Red_Death> or spell
[06:52] <lemoniceblock> ah, I'm having some problems with my wifi card too
[06:52] <rapid-> good old wifi
[06:52] <Red_Death> heh
[06:52] <lemoniceblock> yeah lol xD
[06:52] <arrenlex> Red_Death: Uh, that shouldn't happen. So I don't know... sorry. = /
[06:52] <missing> lemoniceblock: have u tried installing ndis wrapper?
[06:52] <lemoniceblock> yep
[06:52] <rapid-> lol
[06:52] <Red_Death> arrenlex: fuck, alright, thansk
[06:53] <lemoniceblock> and I'm trying to follow the instructions @ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5645
[06:53] <lemoniceblock> but I'm stuck ^^
[06:53] <rapid-> lemoniceblock: what card is that?
[06:53] <lemoniceblock> hehe, same here, rapid =P
[06:53] <XiXaQ> adaptr, well, no. If I limit the vms ram, then it'll start using its own swap. That'll still slow down the system?
[06:53] <lemoniceblock> linksys
[06:53] <lemoniceblock> WPC54G
[06:53] <lemoniceblock> version 4
[06:53] <rapid-> theres no linux drivers for this carD?
[06:53] <rgatin> do i need to download it or is it in the package already?
[06:53] <adaptr> trev_: http://files.filefront.com/CodeRED_Alien_Arena__Linux_Version/;3947422;;/fileinfo.html not good enough for you ?
[06:53] <lemoniceblock> I don't think so, I just downloaded ubuntu and it's not working so...
[06:54] <lemoniceblock> rgatin: it's in the CD too
[06:54] <trev_> adaptr:thx
[06:54] <adaptr> XiXaQ: that was my question: WHY use separate machines for each user ? use ulimit like a sane admin, and *the problem never comes up*
[06:54] <trev_> but this has motivated me to learn how to build things from source
[06:54] <rapid-> lemoniceblock: thats not surprising, lots of things don't just work out of the box.
[06:54] <lemoniceblock> ^^;;
[06:55] <juanchito2006> which is more recommended, the latest ATi driver or the one in the repositories?
[06:55] <rgatin> lemoniceblock: ok, i already installed Ubuntu on my laptop. how do i find ndiswrapper
[06:55] <curs0r> is feisty worth it?
[06:55] <lemoniceblock> rgatin: do you have the CD?
[06:55] <rapid-> rgatin: google finds everything
[06:55] <Red_Death> juanchito2006: buying an nvidia card :P
[06:55] <adaptr> curs0r: worth *what* ?
[06:55] <XiXaQ> adaptr, there are a large number of reasons why they need their own vm. What is ulimit?
[06:55] <curs0r> the ffort/trouble/confusion?
[06:55] <missing> lemoniceblock: did u already do a lspci to see if its there?
[06:55] <rgatin> lemoniceblock: yes, i do
[06:55] <Red_Death> curs0r: just wait a few months
[06:55] <adaptr> curs0r: personally, I would not give 2 cents for it...and I don't have to, either
[06:55] <lemoniceblock> ok ehm, I think how I did it was
[06:56] <Red_Death> curs0r: instead, install beryl on your current edgy install
[06:56] <adaptr> XiXaQ: what is.. oh . migod
[06:56] <juanchito2006> Red_Death: True, I was thinking on a 7600 GT, but I want to play Stepmania now.
[06:56] <adaptr> XiXaQ: google for it, please - you can restrict resource usage per user
[06:56] <curs0r> i have it and it rox, just played quake4 at 1280x1024 with 50% opacity
[06:56] <lemoniceblock> rgatin: I put the CD in and this message showed up asking if I wanted it to load packages or something
[06:56] <linux_user400354> im trying to rip+encode with grip. grip is complaining "Invalid encoder executable. Check your encoder config, and ensure it specifies the full path to the encoder executable." I looked for the config and didnt find anything about oggenc in my home. oggenc works from the command line, so why is grip complaining?
[06:56] <Red_Death> juanchito2006: lol stepmania, i used to love that game, I got sick of it eventually though, got too easy after a while, even with the crazy 19foot songs
[06:57] <lemoniceblock> rgatin: click Yes, and it should load Synaptic Package Manager automatically
[06:57] <Red_Death> juanchito2006: ever heard of arch0wl?
[06:57] <adaptr> XiXaQ: is this a business machine you will be building ?
[06:57] <juanchito2006> Red_Death: No, tell me more
[06:57] <slew> anyone know where i can find a Lexmark ppd?!?!
[06:57] <lemoniceblock> rgatin: and I think I typed ndiswrapper in the search bar and selected all the ndiswrapper components for d/l
[06:57] <XiXaQ> adaptr, perhaps, in time.
[06:57] <violot> Anyone's Emacs messed up in Edgy update?
[06:57] <adaptr> slew: if linuxprinting.org doesn't have it, your chances are not good.
[06:57] <violot> I get boxes instead of text
[06:57] <missing> can anyone help me with sudo module-assistant build fglrx-kernel-source  im geting an error in make and it has to do with linux/conf.h missing?
[06:57] <slew> =[
[06:57] <Red_Death> juanchito2006: he got banned from stepmania online in 5 games because he got AAAA's on some of the hardest songs available at the time, that was my friend :P he lives like 45  minutes away from me
[06:58] <rgatin> lemoniceblock: i already have SPM installed, should i try to install the ndis... package from there?
[06:58] <adaptr> XiXaQ: how do you mean, in time ? it either is or it isn't, and if it is, just put as much RAM in as it will hold, be that 2GB, 4GB or more
[06:58] <Red_Death> juanchito2006: he taught me how to kick total ass at stepmania, I was never as good as him, but it was fun while it lasted
[06:58] <rapid-> missing: that looks like you don'
[06:58] <lemoniceblock> rgatin: sry, I d/l'd ubuntu like only today so I don't know what SPM is >.<""
[06:58] <Red_Death> juanchito2006: do a youtube search for arch0wl or on google video
[06:58] <rapid-> missing: that looks like you don't have the kernel source.
[06:58] <XiXaQ> adaptr, the physical machine has limits regarding the amounts of ram.
[06:58] <juanchito2006> Red_Death: Doing it...
[06:59] <adaptr> XiXaQ: the simple reason being, you will be at leisure to experiment with solutions that are more elegant than whoppig out a new VM for every user, and still do what you want to do now
[06:59] <missing> rapid: but i do its a spanking new 2.19 kernel vanilla
[06:59] <rgatin> lemoniceblock: sorry, SPM stands fro Synaptic Package Manager
[06:59] <Red_Death> juanchito2006: http://gprime.net/video.php/quasar
[06:59] <rapid-> missing: 2.19 thats not new at all afaik
[06:59] <adaptr> XiXaQ: every machine has, I'm just asking what yours are -since, if it is too limited, it obviously won't be able to do what you want
[06:59] <lemoniceblock> rgatin: np, when I put in the CD, and clicked 'yes' (or something to that effect when a message popped up) SPM loaded automatically
[06:59] <adaptr> rapid-: not new ? you run 2.20 already ?
[06:59] <Red_Death> juanchito2006: you got pm
[07:00] <missing> rapid my 2.18.1 vanill a conpiled just fine used the same config and reinstalled the same drivers but its a new kernel for me
[07:00] <XiXaQ> adaptr, 32GB I think.
[07:00] <juanchito2006> Red_Death: ?
[07:00] <Astrozombie> RAPID....sorry to bug you again. I dunno how to make the install.
[07:00] <adaptr> XiXaQ: and how many users are we talking about ?
[07:00] <lemoniceblock> rgatin: and I found ndiswrapper through SPM, but I think you need to insert the CD just so SPM can find the ndiswrapper package?
[07:00] <Red_Death> juanchito2006: nvm they're 404ing
[07:00] <rapid-> adaptr: i've got a 2.6.19 kernel
[07:00] <Red_Death> juanchito2006: just google search arch0wl video, you'll find it
[07:00] <XiXaQ> adaptr, as many as possible. That's what I'm trying to find out; how many users I have room for.
[07:01] <rapid-> Astrozombie: you'll have to read the documentation, i'm _sure_ it will help
[07:01] <toulouse> hey guys, how do i go about making sure that no channels are muted in ALSA?
[07:01] <adaptr> XiXaQ: then the first thing you have to determine is hw much memory ONE user will need, definitively
[07:01] <Red_Death> toulouse: alsamixer in terminal
[07:01] <Astrozombie> there is no install insturctiions - _ -
[07:01] <rgatin> lemoniceblock: can i let the SPM find and install the ndis... thru the internet
[07:01] <toulouse> Red_Death: so i type alsamixer?
[07:01] <adaptr> XiXaQ: that is all the info you need with such a VM solution, but it is rarely the best solution for a given problem
[07:01] <Red_Death> toulouse: indeed
[07:01] <lemoniceblock> rgatin: I'm sure you can do that too
[07:02] <XiXaQ> adaptr, exactly. But the first user has alot of overhead, since he's also in his own vm.
[07:02] <toulouse> Red_Death: it says no mixer elems found
[07:02] <toulouse> any suggestions
[07:02] <lemoniceblock> rgatin: actually ndiswrapper has its own site, just google ndiswrapper and you should find it
[07:02] <Astrozombie> RAPID, all it has is a make file.
[07:02] <adaptr> XiXaQ: *every* user has the same overhead
[07:02] <XiXaQ> adaptr, no.
[07:02] <lemoniceblock> rgatin: but learning how to use ndiswrapper is where I'm stuck right now >.<""
[07:02] <rapid-> Astrozombie: try type ./configure
[07:02] <Red_Death> toulouse: i'm having my own sound problems now, but it doesn't look like your card is being detected, ask arrenlex for help
[07:02] <adaptr> XiXaQ: you;'re making sure of that by assigning a VM to every user
[07:02] <toulouse> oky
[07:02] <rapid-> lemoniceblock: ndiswrapper has documentation
[07:02] <adaptr> XiXaQ: you're making less and less sense
[07:03] <missing> rapid: let me to try ln -s linux-2.6.19 again maybe that will help
[07:03] <lemoniceblock> rapid-: k, thanx, I'll take a look but I'm not v good at computers ^^
[07:03] <toulouse> arrenlex: when i type alsamixer into the terminal, it says no mixer elems found, do you know what this means?
[07:03] <n2diy> anybody know of software for generating monitor test patterns?
[07:03] <Astrozombie> RAPID, Do have to go to the folder directory first?
[07:03] <rapid-> lemoniceblock: thats the reason DOCS are there, to help you. how the hell would you know how to do anything without docs
[07:03] <rapid-> Astrozombie: yes. from a terminal.
[07:03] <Red_Death> lol
[07:03] <Red_Death> arrenlex: nice
[07:03] <rgatin> lemoinceblock: same here
[07:04] <arrenlex> toulouse: You know all that stuff you see in advanced volume control? "Master, pcm\wave, surround, 3D", all that crap? It's not finding those.
[07:04] <arrenlex> toulouse: Which basically means there's a misconfiguration with your card.
[07:04] <toulouse> hmm.. that
[07:04] <Red_Death> arrenlex: rebooting, brbb
[07:04] <toulouse> is not good
[07:04] <arrenlex> toulouse: Did it ever work? Did you break it somehow?
[07:04] <toulouse> yes, i broke it, i configured a usb headset
[07:04] <toulouse> it worked, (the headset) but now my speakers will not work
[07:04] <Astrozombie> RAPID i did cd /desktop folder.  then ./configure, gave me "./configure no such file or directory"
[07:05] <arrenlex> toulouse: Hmm. That's difficult. I don't have experience with such a configuration.
[07:05] <arrenlex> toulouse: And I also have to go. = /
[07:05] <toulouse> ok, thanks anyways
[07:05] <rapid-> Astrozombie: you have to change into the directory the file uncompressed.
[07:05] <arrenlex> toulouse: Sorry, and good luck.
[07:05] <rapid-> Astrozombie: then try, less README or less INSTALL
[07:05] <Astrozombie> RAPID I extracted to the desktop.
[07:06] <Astrozombie> Rapid Neither worked.
[07:06] <bung> sorry to ask, but do you 'defrag' an ext3 fs?
[07:06] <missing> can anyone help me with sudo module-assistant build fglrx-kernel-source  im geting an error in make and it has to do with linux/conf.h missing? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38984/
[07:06] <missing> bung: no u dont
[07:07] <barata> salut a tous .... qqn a un probleme aussi avec BERYL et INTEL 855?
[07:07] <bung> i just get a bit worried when ive been sitting on the last 4gb of my drive, deleting/adding for a while... it wont get corrupt?
[07:07] <barata> it might
[07:08] <barata> is it a USB-hd?
[07:08] <missing> bung: no the ext3 fs actually creates empty spaces to let files grow
[07:08] <Twinxor> hey there, what's the preferred DVD playing software?
[07:08] <Twinxor> DeCSS capability isn't needed :)
[07:08] <barata> LinDVD
[07:08] <bung> missing, ok thanks m8
[07:08] <missing> ive been up to 99% full and ive had no slow down
[07:08] <barata> or vlc
[07:08] <barata> or mplayer
[07:08] <Twinxor> vlc knows about chapters and such on a DVD?
[07:09] <barata> oh yes
[07:09] <Twinxor> for whatever reason totem isn't cooperating
[07:09] <barata> vlc is the greatest player for avi mpeg too ... even on winzit
[07:10] <Astrozombie> RAPID i went to the website of hostap
[07:10] <PrimeHex> I'm back
[07:10] <Twinxor> I usually use MPC on win, but it's nice how VLC is cross-platform
[07:10] <Astrozombie> and there are no installation instructions.
[07:10] <klees> is it possible for me to compile the stock fglrx kernel module against a custom kernel?
[07:10] <PrimeHex> where'd the one guy go...aksomething
[07:10] <violot> Where do you disable the system bell in Gnome and replace it with a visible bell?
[07:10] <toulouse> hey any1 no about audio config stuff???
[07:11] <violot> I had it in Beryl but now I'm just metacity
[07:11] <DJAdmiral> Hey
[07:11] <PrimeHex> toulouse: where'd the guy I told you to talk to go?
[07:11] <toulouse> lol he had to go
[07:11] <PrimeHex> oh bummer
[07:11] <klees> anyone??
[07:11] <toulouse> he didnt know about my problem anyways
[07:11] <PrimeHex> oh
[07:11] <Jimerson> Anyone familiar with network problems in 6.10 on a G5 iMac?
[07:12] <klees> is it possible for me to compile the stock fglrx kernel module against a custom kernel?
[07:12] <toulouse> ima try a good ol' reset and see if that helps me
[07:13] <missing> kless: well it comes already compiled with the packgae i would imagine but if u have the source u can
[07:13] <Ha1> I dont suppose there are any [Australian]  OptusNet users on here?
[07:13] <klees> missing: there r sources in the repository, but the sources seem specific to the stock kernel
[07:14] <Ha1> Im a newbie whos using  OptusNet as my ISP, and it seems to be disagreeing with Ubuntu.
[07:14] <Astrozombie> RAPID you still there?
[07:15] <Astrozombie> nevermind ill try dis tomorrow.
[07:16] <mdious> Hal:  what is the problem, most people have trouble with something not agreeing with a modem or some such device hehe
[07:16] <missing> kless: u want the stock fireglrx drivers or the newer ones? check this one out http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[07:16] <Ha1> I keep on having to manually dis/re connecting using Sudo poff dsl-provider and sudo-pon dsl-provider
[07:16] <ash> Any ideas on how to send the switch vdesktop hotkey/spin the cube automatically every 10 seconds? alt+cltr+right style.
[07:17] <Ha1> And it sign me out of Gaim every time
[07:17] <Ha1> Thing is, I only know its disconnected me when a webpage doest load, or, about 15 mins after sending am message, Gaim teels me it cant be sent
[07:17] <neurotech> Beryl is not working at all for me :(
[07:18] <hkq35> I think the Internet today is very slow
[07:18] <PrimeHex> neurotech: what are you using? edgy?
[07:18] <neurotech> 6.06 dapper
[07:18] <neurotech>  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[07:18] <PrimeHex> neurotech: either way, join #ubuntu-beryl i belive, they're better at this
[07:18] <blujay> neurotech: what driver?
[07:18] <Ha1> Ideally, its not the problem that needs fixing;; all I need is some kind of macro or way to automate the whole process
[07:18] <neurotech> fglrx
[07:18] <hkq35> a lot of sites are not working , MSN , yahoo , a lot of troubles
[07:18] <blujay> neurotech: have you enabled the dri extension in X?
[07:19] <neurotech> Section "DRI"
[07:19] <neurotech> 	Mode         0666
[07:19] <neurotech> EndSection
[07:19] <neurotech> ?
[07:19] <mdious> hal:  are you using dialup?
[07:19] <blujay> neurotech: no, one moment...
[07:19] <Ha1> Nah, Im using Optusnet broadband.
[07:19] <__mikem> neurotech, your DRI section is in evil mode
[07:20] <missing> neurotech: enter sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and make sure in the end of the file u have dri enabled
[07:20] <neurotech> it has to be the end?
[07:20] <blujay> neurotech: they seem to know more than I do...I don't even have anything like that in my file, but I'm on nvidia
[07:20] <chuckwest_> Hey!
[07:20] <mdious> Hal:  I am on dialup..probably always will be beacuse i love living in country victoria in the middle of no where...not much experience with broadband but doesn't it just plug in with ethernet and away you go?
[07:20] <PrimeHex> it differs a lot from new cards to old, edgy to others, etc
[07:21] <PrimeHex> mdious: indeed
[07:21] <neurotech> blujay: They?
[07:21] <Ha1> Basically, thats how it works, especially on Windows
[07:21] <blujay> neurotech: the two that responded to you after me
[07:21] <Ha1> But it just doesnt seem to be wanting to work for me
[07:21] <Ha1> Here on Edgy
[07:22] <neurotech> missing: So it has to be at the very end?
[07:22] <PrimeHex> WTF THEY FINALLY INCLUDED SNOW IN BERYL 0.1.4 YES!
[07:22] <PrimeHex> sorry
[07:23] <mdious> Hal:  sorry if this is making you sound dumb, but is your ethernet card and all that set to receive by dhcp or whatever OptusNet expect you to do?
[07:23] <missing> neuro: Section "DRI"
[07:23] <missing> 	Mode         0666
[07:23] <missing> EndSection
[07:23] <missing> look for that
[07:23] <Ha1> To be honest, Im quite a newb at this kind of thing, so I wouldnt know.
[07:23] <Ha1> Although my Ubuntu BB settings say its done by DHCP
[07:24] <DJAdmiral> mdious: I helped him connect to the internet by means of the PPPoE connection setup in the ubuntu offline help thingo.
[07:24] <DJAdmiral> ethernet refused to work otherwise
[07:24] <mdious> there is broadband settings in ubuntu?
[07:24] <barata> hi, google allows to have a web page for free.. do you know the address?
[07:25] <DJAdmiral> barata: www.googlepages.com
[07:25] <barata> thanks DJAdmiral!
[07:25] <chuckwest_> http://pages.google.com/
[07:25] <missing> can anyone help me with sudo module-assistant build fglrx-kernel-source  im geting an error in make and it has to do with linux/conf.h missing? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38984/
[07:25] <DJAdmiral> Any of the two will work.
[07:26] <mdious> DJAdmiral:  if you set up his connection thing does he/she have to keep doing that poff pon stuff?
[07:26] <DJAdmiral> mdious: Yeah.
[07:27] <mdious> DJAdmiral:  what a bugger...strange about the ethernet not working :(
[07:28] <DJAdmiral> mdious: Blame optusnut.
[07:28] <mdious> Hal:  sorry can't help you...seems like one of those things where you really have to 'be there' hehe...well for me anyway because I'm incompetent and apologise for being no help at all
[07:28] <Ha1> Nah, its fine. Thanks for your time
[07:28] <DJAdmiral> mdious: Hey you tried - thanks anyway :P
[07:28] <mdious> DJAdmiral:  I don't see how an ISP would affect someones ethernet card working/not working
[07:29] <DJAdmiral> mdious: one of the ISPs in Belgium requires you to CALL them to request port forwarding. That's a VERY good example.
[07:29] <toulouse> hey guys, any1 have any sound knowledge? my sound isnt workin
[07:29] <fr3ak> I want*.deb files in /var/cache/apt dir to cd/dvd !! is it possible?
[07:29] <toulouse> it used to work
[07:29] <toulouse> (i broke it)
[07:30] <PrimeHex> toulouse: were you using flash?
[07:30] <mdious> DJAdmiral:  yeah but having working ethernet isn't too much to ask of them is it :P
[07:30] <toulouse> no sire
[07:30] <toulouse> *sir
[07:30] <PrimeHex> oh
[07:30] <Jimerson> Anyone familiar with network issues in 6.10 on an iMac G5?
[07:30] <toulouse> im just trying to get sound to work at all
[07:31] <mdious> freak:  there was a post about doing something on linux australia mailing list i can look it up if you want?
[07:31] <DJAdmiral> mdious: optus refuses to actually offer linux support. Maybe they're too stupid to do so.
[07:31] <PrimeHex> yea man I don't have sound yet either, but flash broke it
[07:31] <PrimeHex> mdious: you can lie to them and say you're using XP, then ask them the problem provided it's not os specific
[07:31] <Motoko-chan> Linux, what's that? Is there something other than Windows?
[07:32] <toulouse> what, something other than windows? where can i get this
[07:32] <alexcamilo> :: hands them a live CD ::
[07:32] <Motoko-chan> More like "Where can I burn this evil?"
[07:32] <mdious> DJAdmiral:  I had good times with telstra on the phone when i set up slackware...trying to get the right ppp settings hehe..."I"m using linux, it's not windows and it's not mac..."...."then what is it" lol....but did get it sorted in the end :)
[07:32] <toulouse> any1 know sound stuff?
[07:33] <mdious> freak:  check out a tool called Apt-cacher
[07:33] <DJAdmiral> toulouse: My sound's just fine. I could show you my sound properties, that might help
[07:33] <toulouse> ok
[07:33] <mdious> *fr3ak:  check out a tool called Apt-cacher
[07:33] <toulouse> i did the aplay thing in the terminal, and i shows my card
[07:33] <DJAdmiral> right click your volume icon and open up volume control
[07:34] <violot> SWEEEEEEET!
[07:34] <violot> FIXED!
[07:34] <toulouse> ya, none are muted
[07:34] <DJAdmiral> toulose: turn everything except for master up
[07:34] <violot> Fixed font issue too :)
[07:34] <hkq35> toulouse try system>preferences>sound , sound tab uncheck enable software sound mixing. give it a try again
[07:34] <fr3ak> mdious, what it does?
[07:34] <violot> YAYYYYYYY!
[07:35] <toulouse> ok, this might help, when i try to use xmms, it says "please check that : your soundcard is conf
[07:35] <Twinxor> darn, where does VLC save snapshots by default?
[07:35] <mdious> fr3ak:  i think it has something to do with moving stuff around from /var/apt/cache but not sure....just thought it might help you out
[07:35] <toulouse> and you have correct output plugin
[07:35] <juanchito2006> Hello, after installing the fglrx driver and rebooting, the monitor gets out of sync. How do I fix this?
[07:35] <violot> Holy crap!
[07:35] <XiXaQ> how do I prevent Xorg from starting up after boot?
[07:36] <DJAdmiral> XiXaQ: You'll need to boot up into recovery mode for that.
[07:36] <erpo> XiXaQ: Edit /etc/inittab
[07:36] <mdious> XiXaQ:  do you mean booting to a command line?
[07:36] <erpo> XiXaQ: Yeah, actually, try recovery mode first. If that doesn't meet your needs, then edit inittab to change your runlevel.
[07:36] <toulouse> hkq35: i unchecked esd, but that did not help
[07:36] <XiXaQ> mdious, yes.. I want a normal boot, except I don't want Xorg to startup, only a commandline login.
[07:36] <mdious> DJAdmiral:  you don't have to be in recovery you just change the default run level and reboot right?
[07:37] <judgen> logs tell me that i dont have glcore anymore since i updated xorg, what do i do?
[07:37] <DJAdmiral> XiXaQ, mdious: Ctrl+Alt+F1 :P
[07:37] <mdious> top of DJAdmiral suggestion (/etc/inittab) change this section:  # The default runlevel.
[07:37] <mdious> id:2:initdefault:
[07:37] <XiXaQ> mdious, which runlevel do I want?
[07:38] <toulouse> anyone have any sound knowledge? mine isnt working
[07:38] <XiXaQ> mdious, I can't find any /etc/inittab file
[07:38] <mdious> rc0.d - System Halted
[07:38] <mdious> rc1.d - Single User Mode
[07:38] <mdious> rc2.d - Single User Mode with Networking
[07:38] <mdious> rc3.d - Multi-User Mode - boot up in text mode
[07:38] <mdious> rc4.d - Not yet Defined
[07:38] <mdious> rc5.d - Multi-User Mode - boot up in X Windows
[07:38] <missing> toulouse: hey try this
[07:38] <mdious> rc6.d - Shutdown & Reboot
[07:39] <mdious> XiXaQ:  I have never heard of that sorry i don't think i could help at all
[07:39] <Valmarko> What programs should I use to configure sound my way ?
[07:39] <XiXaQ> mdious, you already have :)
[07:39] <missing> "alsamixer" and make sure you dont any of the volumes down and that the digital spdif is not on
[07:39] <missing> telouse: did u get that?
[07:39] <toulouse> ok
[07:40] <toulouse> umm lemme check about the spdif
[07:40] <missing> can anyone help me with sudo module-assistant build fglrx-kernel-source  im geting an error in make and it has to do with linux/conf.h missing? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38984/
[07:40] <mdious> XiXaQ:  i thought you didn't have a /etc/inittab?
[07:40] <Valmarko> tanks
[07:40] <toulouse> missing: what is the spdif thing?
[07:40] <XiXaQ> mdious, I don't seem to. But now I know what the different runlevels are :)
[07:40] <mdious> XiXaQ:  might help on the missing file:  http://www.handhelds.org/hypermail/familiar/256/25689.html
[07:41] <sid> Is it me, or does rhythmbox crash a lot when dealing with lots of diverse files(lots being 20+ gigs)
[07:41] <sid> ie, loading them
[07:41] <missing> toulouse: its also a digital output for digital speakers
[07:41] <XiXaQ> mdious, I found this one though: /usr/lib/upstart/migrate-inittab.pl <-- has that got anything to do with anything?
[07:41] <toulouse> hmm. i dont seem to see it anywhere on the sound mixer
[07:41] <missing> toulouse: let me check my alsamixer to give u better information on what should be off
[07:42] <mdious> XiXaQ:  could not tell...maybe if you try an slocate inittab or something....are you on ubuntu?  anyway i must go...tea awaits and i feel a bit dizzy....sorry to be no help, I hope you get it sorted out and that someone else can help you...if not google should :)
[07:42] <mdious> Catcha Later everyone, thanks for the company.
[07:42] <toulouse> missing: it has a list of devices when i type aplay --list-devices in the terminal
[07:43] <missing> it should have 2
[07:43] <toulouse> missing: actually, it's two devices, both are intel soundcards
[07:43] <Valmarko> !LFE
[07:43] <missing> what is your snd card?
[07:43] <toulouse> intel ich5
[07:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about LFE - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:43] <Ashton_Ke> Good morning
[07:43] <missing> whats your motherboard?
[07:43] <TooR4u> any body works with gmailfs?
[07:43] <toulouse> umm, i believe it's american megatrends or something like that
[07:43] <Ashton_Ke> I've got Dapper on my system at the moment, just got nvidia-glx working, can anyone tell me what command I need to run to update to edgy?
[07:43] <toulouse> the sound Used to work
[07:43] <TooR4u> how to mount gmailfs ..? i got this link .......http://richard.jones.name/google-hacks/gmail-filesystem/gmail-filesystem-using.html
[07:44] <toulouse> missing: but i made a usb headset work last night, and i think it messed up the settings, cause now the speakers dont work (normal comp. speakers)
[07:44] <levander> What are the things called in GNOME that are basically like part of the desktop wallpaper background, but that will show things like disk cpu utilization, temperatures...
[07:44] <levander> ?
[07:44] <neurotech> Does anyone have an ati X800?
[07:45] <neurotech> X800 XL*
[07:45] <XiXaQ> erpo, I'm on edgy. I have two edgy installations and none of them have /etc/inittab?
[07:45] <toulouse> levander: it's a program called "conky"
[07:45] <toulouse> levander: search for it in synaptic
[07:45] <missing> neuro: was it there?
[07:46] <neurotech> yeah missing
[07:46] <levander> toulouse: "conky - highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo" - what is torsmo?
[07:46] <TooR4u> any body works with gmailfs?
[07:46] <dug> hi
[07:46] <Ashton_Ke> What do I need to tell apt-get to do in order to upgrade to edgy?
[07:46] <neurotech> missing: Should I be using XGL or AIGLX? I have an ati x800 XL
[07:46] <Valmarko> AlsaMixer is showing me the options LFE and IEC958. What do theu mean?
[07:46] <Ashton_Ke> (Since the live CD hates my graphics card by default)
[07:46] <toulouse> levander: quite the extent of my knowledge, but i believe that it is what conky is based on
[07:46] <levander> toulouse: ah, okay - now i see
[07:46] <levander> toulouse: thanks for telling me about conky
[07:47] <toulouse> np
[07:47] <missing> toulouse: well i dont know much about that but maybe i had a problem on my old pc where i coulld not get the volume up unless i used mplayer to raise the volume
[07:47] <toulouse> hmm. thanks for tryin to help anyways
[07:47] <missing> neuro: Xgl is the ati one
[07:47] <toulouse> i think i broke these settings pretty good
[07:47] <variant> Ashton_Ke: change dapper to edgy in /etc/apt/sources.list and do apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:47] <variant> Ashton_Ke: do the dist-upgrade twice
[07:47] <violot> How do you disable the system bell in Gnome?
[07:47] <variant> Ashton_Ke: and your finnished
[07:48] <Ashton_Ke> Thank you.
[07:48] <Ashton_Ke> (Wanted to get it started while I sleep)
[07:48] <Ashton_Ke> Since I figure it's not exactly a 20 second process.
[07:48] <variant> Ashton_Ke: if you have fast connection it doesnt take long
[07:49] <levander> Ashton_Ke: wait, you're supposed to use update-manager to go to edgy
[07:49] <missing> violot: if for some reason no one can tell you just install kcontrol and u can do it from there
[07:49] <levander> Ashton_Ke: don't do it with just apt-get
[07:49] <levander> Ashton_Ke: and, it's a bitch for a lot of people to go up to edgy
[07:49] <levander> Ashton_Ke: make sure you have some time in case of trouble
[07:49] <Trentster> hey all, can someone please tell me how I can stop edgy from installing a 2.6.17-10-386 kernel when it downloads updates , I need the 2.6.17-10-generic as 386 breaks multicore support and frequency scaling amongst other things......???
[07:50] <violot> Found it, System->Preferences->Sound
[07:50] <levander> Trentster: read about pinning on the wiki
[07:50] <missing> neuro: so your having problems with xgl?
[07:51] <levander> Trentster: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[07:51] <neurotech> missing: I was using AIGLX lol
[07:51] <neurotech> Trying XGL now.
[07:52] <missing> neuro: yeah i installed it already its works bad ass
[07:52] <Ashton_Ke> levander, this is an experimental machine.
[07:52] <Ashton_Ke> Not a production one, I can handle some glitchyness.
[07:52] <levander> Has anyone seen an honest (i.e. no zealotry) comparison between KDE Ubuntu and GNOME Ubuntu?
[07:52] <missing> can anyone help me with sudo module-assistant build fglrx-kernel-source  im geting an error in make and it has to do with linux/conf.h missing? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38984/
[07:53] <levander> Ashton_Ke: all right, if you want to spend the time with messing with it
[07:53] <missing> lavender: what do u mean? what do u want to know in particualar?
[07:53] <Ashton_Ke> levander: I think it's more of a preference thing, unless if some of the underlying architecture is different.
[07:53] <levander> Ashton_Ke: make sure you have a valid meta-package installed for a kernel
[07:53] <Ashton_Ke> And I would do that how...?
[07:53] <levander> Ashton_Ke: and another thing that screwed me up pretty bad was just having xtoolwait installed
[07:53] <levander> Ashton_Ke: there were a couple of other things, but I can't remember them off the top of my head.
[07:53] <missing> lavender u know about kernels?
[07:54] <levander> missing: well, i know a little bit, why?
[07:54] <levander> Ashton_Ke: "dpkg -l linux-generic"
[07:54] <dfgas> anyone a pro at samba?
[07:54] <levander> Ashton_Ke: see if that package is installed.
[07:54] <missing_> well i was trying to patch my kernel but just picking a patch is the hard part
[07:54] <levander> dfgas: #samba
[07:54] <levander> missing_: why do you want to patch your kernel?
[07:54] <Ashton_Ke> Nope
[07:54] <Ashton_Ke> I probably should go get that
[07:54] <missing_> low latency
[07:55] <Ashton_Ke> Just apt-get it?
[07:55] <levander> Ashton_Ke: hold on, let me get you a command
[07:55] <PrimeHex> is it just me or is beryl 0.1.4 a lot more efficient as far as cpu usage goes?
[07:55] <levander> Ashton_Ke: "uname -r" first
[07:56] <levander> missing_: i've never had to mess with that
[07:56] <toulouse> hey hey guys, good news, i got my sound to work! (i guess?!?) it works in rythymbox, but not in xmms, do yall know what the problem may be?
[07:56] <Ashton_Ke> Funnily enough, that's why I'm going to edgy, so I can give beryl a go (Didn't work on Dapper last go around)
[07:56] <levander> missing_: you've got some reading to do
[07:56] <levander> missing_: i don't even know how recompiling the kernel could improve latency
[07:56] <Jimerson> Anyone know the os x terminal command for figuring out what wireless card is being used?
[07:56] <Ashton_Ke> 2.6.15-27-386
[07:56] <missing_> i have been trying to but theres nothing available in that topic that i can find even in the groups
[07:56] <levander> Ashton_Ke: you know that Ubuntu is going to have Beryl all nice and integrated (no work to set up) in April with Feisty
[07:57] <Ashton_Ke> No, I didn't know that.
[07:57] <Ashton_Ke> But I'm impatient.
[07:57] <Ashton_Ke> That and it's Christmas break.
[07:57] <PrimeHex> Ashton_Ke: it's worth going through the work to get it now
[07:57] <Ashton_Ke> I don't doubt it.
[07:57] <PrimeHex> Ashton_Ke: just use update manager and do the run though, last time I did it, it just took a long time with no problems
[07:57] <levander> Ashton_Ke: you know, I'm really not sure if 2.6.15 will work with the new udev stuff in Edgy or not...
[07:58] <PrimeHex> Ashton_Ke: although I'd recomend just moving your important shit somewhere else and doing a fresh install :)
[07:58] <levander> Ashton_Ke: my problem was that I had an SMP kernel meta-package from way back in the Warty days
[07:58] <Ashton_Ke> Ah, can't. The 6.10 disc hates my video card.
[07:58] <levander> Ashton_Ke: then, they put SMP in the default kernels, and stopped updating the SMP specific ones
[07:58] <levander> Ashton_Ke: them stopping updating it didn't get me till Edgy
[07:58] <levander> Ashton_Ke: so, unless you installed an smp kernel, you are probably fine
[07:59] <PrimeHex> Ashton_Ke: nope, it doesnt, change the vga resolution at the inital menu to something high, like 1280 or 1600, then try running it, I had the same problem, with all the odd colored lines and such
[07:59] <PrimeHex> Oompa: wtf are you doing here?
[07:59] <Ashton_Ke> I ran apt-get dist-upgrade once, so I've got the latest ABI that Dapper supports.
[07:59] <Ashton_Ke> I believe 2.6.15 was the latest Dapper'll take, without a custom build of the later kernels, no?
[07:59] <levander> PrimeHex: wow, that's a wierd problem you ran into having to have a screen resolution higher than 1280x...
[08:00] <levander> Even wierder than Ubuntu stopping upgrading the kernel package I was using.
[08:00] <SurfnSanta> whats an easy tool to look for duplicate files?
[08:00] <PrimeHex> levander: no I head it was common, you'd go to start at default resolution, but the graphics would be all fucked up and such. So I tried it at 1280, my default reso, and it worked fine.
[08:00] <DBO> PrimeHex, please try to keep the swearing to a minimum in here =)
[08:00] <PrimeHex> DBO: oh shit, sorry :P xD
[08:01] <PrimeHex> DBO: isn't it late enough into the night/early enough into the morning, to the point where we can swear without worry of kiddies/
[08:01] <levander> Ashton_Ke: the thing is, you're supposed to have a "meta-package" so that Ubuntu upgrades you to the latest kernel for your profile.  Most people are in the "generic" profile and so on Edgy use "linux-generic" as a meta-package.  I don't know what it was called in Dapper, or if they even changed the name.
[08:01] <DBO> PrimeHex, the world is round
[08:01] <levander> Ashton_Ke: you need the right meta-package for updating security upgrades, as well as dist-upgrades
[08:01] <levander> Ashton_Ke: you're probably fine though, i'm just being talkative
[08:01] <PrimeHex> DBO: even in other countries it's just getting to be wakeup time...
[08:01] <Ashton_Ke> Only one way to find out.
[08:02] <PrimeHex> Ashton_Ke: try the cd one last time, but with a high resolution
[08:02] <levander> Ashton_Ke: as long as you're not similar to what my situation was above, you're probably fine
[08:02] <DBO> PrimeHex, except australia, where it be mid day =P  basically the answer is no, its never ok =)
[08:02] <Ashton_Ke> Prime, trust me, I've tried everything with the Edgy disc.
[08:02] <Ashton_Ke> The driver it tries, is bad, for one reason or another.
[08:02] <levander> Ashton_Ke: What video card do you have?
[08:02] <linlin> how can i make a command automatically run when i login to kde ?
[08:02] <Ashton_Ke> (That's what I get for dropping too much on a 7800GT)
[08:02] <PrimeHex> Ashton_Ke: oh, have you tried just booting to a shell, then working from there?
[08:02] <PrimeHex> Ashton_Ke: funny, that's what I have
[08:02] <Ashton_Ke> I got mine early, maybe a bit buggy in the firmware.
[08:02] <Bakefy> can anyone here help me with samba share?  I can't get it to NOT ask for a password when trying to connect over XP
[08:03] <Ashton_Ke> In windows, on cold starts it occasionally gives me a bunch of weird output.
[08:03] <Ashton_Ke> Takes a few reboots to warm it up occasionally.
[08:03] <PrimeHex> Bakefy: set the password as blank, then don't type one in for the login
[08:03] <Bakefy> how do i set the password?
[08:03] <PrimeHex> Ashton_Ke: that's odd, i'd send it in for a new one, who'd you get it through?
[08:03] <levander> Ashton_Ke: Maybe try installing hardware acceleration, which installs the proprietary nvidia driver?
[08:03] <PrimeHex> Bakefy: on the windows machine
[08:03] <Bakefy> is that in the config file?
[08:03] <levander> Ashton_Ke: and not the open source one, one written by nvidia themselves
[08:03] <PrimeHex> Bakefy: set the password to blank on the windows machine first
[08:04] <PrimeHex> grr there are spies about
[08:04] <levander> Ashton_Ke: I'd try the (proprietary) nvidia driver, not the (open source) nv driver.
[08:04] <judgen> what package is GLcore in?
[08:04] <PrimeHex> levander: that's what I installed to get beryl to work, works like a chaim so far
[08:05] <Bakefy> PrimeHex: what is the user name for the windows machine?
[08:05] <PrimeHex> Bakefy: how the f would I know? it's YOUR windows machine
[08:05] <levander> PrimeHex: But, the open source driver isn't working at all for Ashton_Ke with his newer card.  He may *need* the proprietary driver, just to get X to work on it.
[08:05] <PrimeHex> arrenlex: you're back! (this is Red Death)
[08:05] <Trentster> how do i install the latest nvidia driver, 9746, apt allways installs an old version
[08:05] <PrimeHex> levander: oh, I had odd problems, but now that I'm using this one it's fine
[08:05] <arrenlex> PrimeHex: I am! How's your sound doing?
[08:05] <PrimeHex> arrenlex: it's not xD
[08:05] <arrenlex> PrimeHex: Tsk...
[08:06] <PrimeHex> arrenlex: although I am flabbergasted that snow was included in 0.1.4 of beryl
[08:06] <arrenlex> PrimeHex: That is... good?
[08:06] <juanchito2006> Hello, after installing the fglrx driver and rebooting, the monitor gets out of sync. How do I fix this?
[08:06] <PrimeHex> YES!
[08:06] <Bakefy> PrimeHex: I have the password as blank... (loging into windows) I have never set a password for SMB...
[08:06] <Bakefy> still no luck
[08:06] <PrimeHex> Bakefy: oh, just try it normally, then when it asks for password, don't type anything in the password box
[08:07] <PrimeHex> How would I make a certain process run on cpu2?
[08:07] <Bakefy> and for username, do i use my linux name, or windows?
[08:07] <PrimeHex> Bakefy: windoz
[08:07] <levander> PrimeHex: It's called CPU Affinity - but I don't know how to do it.  Search on that word affinity though.
[08:07] <PrimeHex> levander: ah that's the word, I couldn't spell it so I didn't try xD
[08:08] <PrimeHex> levander: It's not that big of a deal, I'd just like to offset beryl to the under-used proc
[08:08] <levander> PrimeHex: lemme know what the name of the utility to do that is if you find it
[08:08] <Ashton_Ke> levander, I'm using the nvidia driver right now.
[08:08] <PrimeHex> levander: will do
[08:08] <Ashton_Ke> It's just when I boot live, for some reason it doesn't fly.
[08:08] <levander> Ashton_Ke: And it's still not working?
[08:08] <levander> Ashton_Ke: have you tried the nv driver?
[08:08] <Bakefy> hell, I still cant get it
[08:08] <Ashton_Ke> It tries nv by default.
[08:08] <Ashton_Ke> Vesa doesn't work.
[08:09] <Ashton_Ke> Dapper's live disc works.
[08:09] <Ashton_Ke> Edgy's doesn't.
[08:09] <PrimeHex> levander: the only one that i've found is schedutils
[08:09] <PrimeHex> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/setting-processor-affinity-certain-task-or-process.html
[08:09] <Ashton_Ke> I believe I checked both of their MD5sums, I'll check later again.
[08:09] <levander> Ashton_Ke: you know that  if X does start up, and you can get to a console on the LiveCD, you can "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to try to reconfigure X?
[08:09] <PrimeHex> looks like it will work
[08:09] <levander> PrimeHex: k, thanks
[08:10] <levander> Ashton_Ke: surely if you booted off the CD, it's basically right enough of a download to use
[08:10] <toulouse> hey guys, i def. got my sound working
[08:10] <Ashton_Ke> I imagine, that if I booted to text only, I could install it.
[08:10] <Ashton_Ke> Through liberal application of mounting, chrooting, and apt-getting.
[08:10] <PrimeHex> levander: that's extremely easy to do, and it works
[08:10] <Ashton_Ke> (That's right, those are verbs)
[08:10] <levander> toulouse wins hacker of the day!! got sound working!
[08:10] <PrimeHex> >:E
[08:10] <toulouse> levander: lol thanks man  it took long enough
[08:11] <levander> PrimeHex: I imagine, I just didn't know the name of the utility.
[08:11] <Ashton_Ke> That being said, I'm trying this the apt-get way.
[08:11] <PrimeHex> levander: it's just schedutils (bitmap of proc starting at 0) -p pid
[08:11] <juanchito2006> Hello, after installing the fglrx driver and rebooting, the monitor gets out of sync. How do I fix this?
[08:11] <Ashton_Ke> If this hits the fan, what command do I have to use to boot the disc as text only?
[08:11] <Ashton_Ke> (Live .... plus what?)
[08:11] <toulouse> i ended up having to go to kde's sound control, and switching the server for xmms to OSS and kde's sound server to OSS as well
[08:12] <toulouse> yay im happy i got it working again
[08:12] <dug> hi everyone
[08:12] <levander> juanchito2006: What is the fglrx driver?
[08:12] <toulouse> couldnt find that stuff in gnome, so i went to kde
[08:12] <KrisWood> my street's power went out and when it came back up my ubuntu box wasn't able to start firestarter anymore >.< it says to check if my internet connection is running but if it wasn't I'd not be online right now would I? meanwhile none of my other PCs are able to get on the net since the firewall won't start :(
[08:12] <toulouse> well, ima let yall chill, im probably gonna take that long nap that most of us take at night
[08:12] <KrisWood> does anyone here use firestarter and/or know how to trouble shoot this?
[08:12] <SubMOA> hello, I'm trying to change the permission on a file and I'm a bit confused
[08:12] <levander> toulouse: in GNOME, there's a little volume icon by the clock, you right click on the volume icon to get to those settings I think
[08:13] <dug> anyone know how to install web cam drivers ?
[08:13] <KrisWood> SubMOA: change permission to do what?
[08:13] <SubMOA> I typed "sudo chown -R username:xxxx /home/xxxx/.config/
[08:13] <SubMOA> and it says it's an invalid username
[08:13] <SubMOA> it's for that beryl thing
[08:13] <KrisWood> you can't have : in a username
[08:13] <SubMOA> hmm
[08:13] <Bakefy> I don't think my smb.conf is correct
[08:13] <toulouse> levander: i just figured out that you probably CAN change the sound server in gnome too, but i found a howto on the net using kde, so i went over to kde
[08:13] <arrenlex> SubMOA: Syntax for that is user:group
[08:13] <levander> KrisWood: when the power went out, was your computer up and running?
[08:13] <juanchito2006> levander: the propietary ati driver
[08:13] <Bakefy> guest account = nobody
[08:13] <PrimeHex> levander: ok, found an easier way, taskset -p -c (procnumber starting at 0) pid
[08:13] <SubMOA> so it will say "...-R user:xxxx"
[08:14] <KrisWood> levander: yes all was well but when it came back up firestarter wouldn't start
[08:14] <arrenlex> SubMOA: "chown -R xxxx:xxxx /home/xxxx/.config" is what you're trying to do, I think.
[08:14] <levander> toulouse: KDE has more applications, but I think GNOME applications look just a little nicer, especially the menus
[08:14] <PrimeHex> levander: agreed
[08:14] <toulouse> hey guys, is OSS better than ALSA?
[08:14] <arrenlex> toulouse: No?
[08:14] <toulouse> or the other way
[08:14] <toulouse> i like gnome better
[08:14] <toulouse> mucho better
[08:14] <SubMOA> so, say my name is "sub" it would be "sudo chown -R sub:sub /home/sub/.config"
[08:14] <judgen> toulouse: alsa is the replacement for OSS
[08:14] <SubMOA> ?
[08:14] <PrimeHex> most sane people do
[08:14] <PrimeHex> :)
[08:14] <PrimeHex> ;)
[08:14] <arrenlex> toulouse: OSS:ALSA::Model T:Corvette
[08:14] <toulouse> so alsa is better right?
[08:14] <toulouse> ok
[08:15] <toulouse> LOL :)
[08:15] <levander> KrisWood: check /var/log/syslog, /var/log/messages, maybe go down to single user mode and fsck -A the partition firestarter is installed on
[08:15] <KrisWood> I've never had probs with alsa
[08:15] <PrimeHex> arrenlex: Unicycle:2006 Mellenium Yellow Corvette Z06
[08:15] <arrenlex> SubMOA: Yes, that will work.
[08:15] <PrimeHex> although unicycles are effing sweet
[08:15] <KrisWood> levander: there's only one partition
[08:15] <toulouse> ijust found you can switch xmms's sound server that it listens on
[08:15] <KrisWood> I'll check syslog
[08:15] <erpo> What tools are available for debugging bash scripts?
[08:15] <levander> KrisWood: well, fsck -A that one
[08:15] <judgen> i prefer KDE anyday over gnome =)
[08:15] <petriborg> hey can people please tell me, is edgy officially using the nvidia-glx 8776 drivers only?
[08:15] <levander> KrisWood: maybe firestarter has it's own log in /var/log?
[08:15] <arrenlex> erpo: Run them as "bash -x <script>" for complete debugging output.
[08:15] <emacla> Just a simple question, wich is best. KDE or Gnome?
[08:16] <clayg> anyone know of a site that offers a sort of hub/portal of your pop3 mail accounts? accessible through the web?
[08:16] <levander> petriborg: it's more tedious to install the older drivers, but you can install them
[08:16] <petriborg> emacla: har flame on
[08:16] <arrenlex> !best | emacla
[08:16] <ubotu> emacla: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[08:16] <violot> emacla: Ohhhhh, get ready for a big flame war :P
[08:16] <Trentster> what is the difference betweeen an arch type -386 and an arch type-generic, and how can i convert and tell my system to use generic or a specific arch type every time for updates etc?
[08:16] <SubMOA> WOO HOO, it appears to have worked
[08:16] <erpo> arrenlex: Thank you.
[08:16] <violot> emacla, but I prefer Gnome
[08:16] <SubMOA> thank you guys so much, i truly appreciate it
[08:16] <andre> hello
[08:16] <arrenlex> KDE is life.
[08:16] <levander> emacla: My basic differentiation between the two is above.
[08:16] <levander> KDE has an ugly start menu, just like Windows.
[08:17] <SubMOA> so the usergroup and the username are the same?
[08:17] <neurotech> missing_: Beryl is running FINE!
[08:17] <neurotech> ohhhh yeah
[08:17] <SubMOA> or rather, can you give me a time when they would be different
[08:17] <arrenlex> Trentster: 386 is basically pre-pentium1 hardware. generic is built to handle all hardware. You want to install the generic kernel. You do this by installing the linux-kernel-generic package and then booting into it in grub.
[08:17] <emacla> I'm using Ubuntu with Gnome for the moment, but i would like to tes Kubuntu or Open Suse.
[08:17] <PrimeHex> neurotech: good job, 0.1.4 right?
[08:17] <petriborg> levander: i don't want to install the older one in fact i want the newest one i can get, dapper only had 8776 so i am considering upgrading to edgy, so i went and checked the livecd i had on hand even after a repository update it says 8776 is what is current
[08:17] <erpo> arrenlex: A script on my machine fails every time. Then when I run it with bash -x, it works. WTF?
[08:17] <KrisWood> oh bother, it's using an older version of my dhcp.conf file
[08:17] <alexcamilo> i like gnome's clean and simple feel. but kde feels nice and shiny. i dunno. i like em bolth.
[08:17] <neurotech> 0.1.1 PrimeHex! :(
[08:17] <arrenlex> SubMOA: It depends what you're trying to do.
[08:17] <KrisWood> and I don't remember the right config
[08:17] <violot> emacla, Open SuSE is a nice distro
[08:17] <KrisWood> anyone know how to set up dhcp.conf?
[08:17] <arrenlex> erpo: Run it with "bash".
[08:17] <PrimeHex> neurotech: bummer, update that asap, 0.1.4 has SNOW PRE INSTALLED!
[08:18] <neurotech> Snow?
[08:18] <KrisWood> I mean dhcpd.conf
[08:18] <juanchito2006> Hello, after installing the ati driver and rebooting, the monitor gets out of sync. How do I fix this?
[08:18] <levander> petriborg: it's probably a good idea to upgrade to edgy, but make sure you do it when you have time to handle problems, upgrading to edgy can be a bitch, and make sure to use update-manager like it says in the wiki
[08:18] <arrenlex> erpo: Likely your script uses a bashism, but specifices #!/bin/sh as its shebang line.
[08:18] <andre> opensuse i had problemes with sound
[08:18] <PrimeHex> neurotech: lemme screenshot it for ya
[08:18] <arrenlex> erpo: Ergo, it is being run by dash, the default ubuntu shell, which can't handle the bashisms and fails.
[08:18] <SubMOA> arrenlex, not trying to do any specifically as of now, just curious as to the differences
[08:18] <neurotech> k
[08:18] <arrenlex> erpo: The solution is to change the top line to read #!/bin/bash
[08:18] <erpo> arrenlex: GAH!
[08:18] <Trentster> arrenlex, thanks, when I innitially installed edgy it was generic and for some reason after the 1st update it installed -386, my platform is a "core 2" so im sure I could use an even more specific tailored arch for my platform...could you guide me in this respect?
[08:18] <erpo> arrenlex: Thank you.
[08:18] <violot> Open SuSE 64 bit was slower than Ubuntu 64 bit, so that's why I switched to Ubuntu after SuSE 10.1 came out after being with SuSE since 9.1
[08:19] <PrimeHex> wtf then he leaves?
[08:19] <erpo> arrenlex: Then why does echo $SHELL in dash print out /bin/bash?
[08:19] <Ashton_Ke> I stay away from 64 bit distros.
[08:19] <petriborg> levander: that is in fact why i'm going to just install off the CD - all my data is seperated out onto 3 other HDs :-) i can use it as a chance to switch to 32bit too since i'm sick of having a chroot for 64bit
[08:19] <arrenlex> Trentster: You want generic. It will suit you fine.
[08:19] <arrenlex> !generic | Trentster
[08:19] <levander> violot: noticeably slower?
[08:19] <ubotu> Trentster: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[08:19] <violot> levander, yes!
[08:19] <PrimeHex> ah
[08:19] <PrimeHex> there youa re
[08:19] <Ashton_Ke> Seems the support (package/library wise) isn't anywhere close to x86
[08:19] <SubMOA> in any event, thank you all for you time.  Truly grateful here.  Happy New Year!
[08:19] <PrimeHex> neurotech: http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotho1.png
[08:19] <TooR4u> anyone works with gmailfs??
[08:19] <violot> levander: Dragging a selecting box with the mouse on the desktop lagged the computer!
[08:20] <toulouse> hey, i dont think there is a way to switchyour sound server while using gnome, but anyways, i got my sound workin :) cya later
[08:20] <violot> (on SuSE)
[08:20] <levander> petriborg: yeah, from what I udnerstand 64 bit isn't ready for prime time, hold out and see what they say about 64 bit feisty
[08:20] <neurotech> lol nice PrimeHex1 ;0
[08:20] <Ashton_Ke> The problem wasn't the distro.
[08:20] <KrisWood> Dec 26 23:13:45 localhost dhcpd: No subnet declaration for eth1
[08:20] <KrisWood> how do I fix this? >.<
[08:20] <Trentster> arrenlex, thanks..... where on my system is it configured to tell updates to pull 386 instead of generic and how can i revert and change it back permanantly?
[08:20] <violot> My 64 bit Ubuntu is the most stable machine I've used believe it or not.
[08:20] <PrimeHex> neurotech: :D i noticed I also cought part of my menu fading out
[08:20] <Ashton_Ke> It was just that few of the programs had 64 bit libraries.
[08:20] <violot> 64 bit Edgy.
[08:20] <petriborg> levander: the 64bit programs work excellent, what doesn't work so well is stuff like "wine" and other evil plugins from adobe etc
[08:21] <PrimeHex> Ashton_Ke: once you get the emulators and workaround set up (which can suck sometimes), it's wonderful
[08:21] <Ashton_Ke> Too much trouble.
[08:21] <PrimeHex> funny how 64 bit was the "next big thing" like 4 years ago, and it really hasn't gone too far
[08:21] <violot> Yeah, if you don't want WINE, 64 bit is great actually for me.
[08:21] <Ashton_Ke> A lot of "64 bit programs" were simply looking at 64 bit libraries.
[08:21] <Ashton_Ke> No more.
[08:21] <PrimeHex> Yea
[08:21] <levander> violot: that dragging problem lagging the computer sounds like some kind of problem with the video driver, and that you were using the CPU instead of the video card to do the drawing...
[08:21] <violot> Flash works though.
[08:21] <violot> I had my video drivers installed though.
[08:21] <Ashton_Ke> They did enough "64 bit" that it wouldn't crash, not enough to actually use more than, oh, 32 bits.
[08:21] <Ashton_Ke> :P
[08:21] <petriborg> violot: yeah i agree, even if you want wine it can be done - i did it
[08:21] <violot> And Twinview running.
[08:22] <violot> nVidia Twinview
[08:22] <levander> PrimeHex: why do you have to have emulators and "workaround" set up for 64 bit?
[08:22] <Ashton_Ke> A lot of programs aren't 64 bit yet.
[08:22] <Ashton_Ke> Like flash for Firefox.
[08:22] <petriborg> violot: yeah i had twinview working for me too it rocks :D
[08:22] <andre> violet did you have problems with sound with opensuse
[08:22] <violot> Twinview does rock :)
[08:22] <levander> violot: I just know that my Windows box does the exact same thing after a fresh reinstall, until I download and install the video drivers
[08:22] <PrimeHex> levander: because trying to pour 32 gallons of water into a 64 gallon container manages to mess up somehow, things don't fit right
[08:22] <violot> levander, oh, I haven't used 64 bit windows.
[08:22] <levander> Ashton_Ke: but, it's just wierd little programs around the edges? like flash?
[08:22] <violot> We got my machine OS-less
[08:22] <Ashton_Ke> I'm telling you, it was a problem with the libraries (or whatever the hell you guys call them, my brain is going out)
[08:23] <violot> No, it came with Free DOS
[08:23] <petriborg> 64bit windows is crap
[08:23] <Ashton_Ke> Levander, sadly not.
[08:23] <Ashton_Ke> A lot of programs simply aren't 64 bit compatible.
[08:23] <PrimeHex> Ashton_Ke: as does everybody's brain at 2:32 am
[08:23] <petriborg> violot - what version of nvidia-glx are using?
[08:23] <Ashton_Ke> You can force them to work, you just have to ensure they look at the right libraries.
[08:23] <levander> 64 bit doesn't really make anything any better though (except in specific cases) I'd just use 32 bit until 64 bit became just as easy
[08:23] <Ashton_Ke> Honestly, what do we call those things now?
[08:23] <arrenlex> erpo: what does "file /bin/sh" say?
[08:23] <PrimeHex> petriborg: i'm running vista final (leigt store bought copy), on my brand new core2duo x6800, and it's amazing
[08:23] <violot> petriborg, ummm
[08:24] <Ashton_Ke> Not worth the cost for me, tbh.
[08:24] <PrimeHex> not at all
[08:24] <cafuego> also not on topic
[08:24] <petriborg> primehex - 64bit vista may not suck i was using xp and it didn't work for much
[08:24] <levander> PrimeHex: this Ubuntu box I got hear is a C2D x6300 and I'm amazed with it.  x6800 would be crazy.
[08:24] <arrenlex> Under normal desktop use, you will not notice a performance benefit from 64-bit. It's only useful for special applications, like 4GB+ RAM, or rendering, or servers, etc.
[08:24] <violot> petriborg: 1.0-9629
[08:24] <KrisWood> ok fixed my problem, I just had to disable dhcp >.<
[08:24] <KrisWood> later all
[08:24] <Ashton_Ke> Rendering would be me, Maya FTW!
[08:24] <petriborg> violot - did you have to install other repositories to make that work or ?
[08:24] <violot> Yes, I believe so, one sec.
[08:24] <PrimeHex> levander: :D, isn't it amazing? I put edgy on there before i threw final on, and I had 1 million snowflakes running with 0 lag
[08:24] <Ashton_Ke> Then again, Maya's in Windows only, dunno if Wine would work too well....
[08:24] <PrimeHex> heh
[08:25] <violot> I'm using beta drivers if I remember correctly.
[08:25] <Ashton_Ke> brave man.
[08:25] <PrimeHex> heh
[08:25] <levander> petriborg: I know some people who ran Vista 64 Bit on their servers when it was in Beta because they said it ran better than 64 bit XP
[08:25] <petriborg> violot - so you did them manually?
[08:25] <violot> Ashton_Ke, :p
[08:25] <violot> I got the debs
[08:25] <arrenlex> Trentster: Just boot into the generic kernel and remove the 386 one.
[08:25] <Ashton_Ke> Experimental software: Because somebodies gotta jump on that grenade.
[08:25] <petriborg> levander - that wouldn't surprise me :-)
[08:25] <levander> PrimeHex: What is snowflakes? Is that a screensaver?
[08:25] <violot> deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable
[08:25] <PrimeHex> petriborg: they really managed to not suck major cock with vista64bit
[08:25] <PrimeHex> levander: http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotho1.png
[08:25] <violot> deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable - 64 bit nvidia drivers
[08:25] <violot> Beta
[08:25] <PrimeHex> levander: beryl plugin
[08:26] <violot> http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ - Here is his website
[08:26] <petriborg> violot - ok how does that work though when you have an update to the kernel?
[08:26] <toulouse> yay for beryl-it's the pimp sutff
[08:26] <violot> Actually, I don't know if it is 64 bit only
[08:26] <PrimeHex> toulouse: indeed
[08:26] <Ashton_Ke> I can probably handle it sans 64 bit, with my Geforce 7800GT.
[08:26] <Bakefy> PrimeHex: I must have some setting in windows that is making me have a password... I connected with my xbox just fine.  any ideas?
[08:26] <violot> petriborg, I don't remember XD
[08:26] <petriborg> violot - no it has 32bit too
[08:26] <petriborg> violot - :(
[08:26] <toulouse> PrimeHex: i love beryl, it makes my friends mad that they are on windows
[08:26] <violot> Yeah, that is what I though
[08:26] <levander> PrimeHex: ah, I see.  I'm waiting for feisty for Beryl...  I'll just wait and let Canonical do the work for me.
[08:26] <violot> Ummmm
[08:26] <PrimeHex> Ashton_Ke: you can't run 1 million snowflakes without more then 2processors
[08:26] <violot> I'm trying to remember
[08:26] <Ashton_Ke> I have 2 processors.
[08:26] <Ashton_Ke> :P
[08:26] <toulouse> beryl will be with feisty??
[08:27] <toulouse> i have hyperthreading
[08:27] <PrimeHex> Ashton_Ke: the x6800 box has brand new 8800's in sli
[08:27] <petriborg> does anyone know what the ubuntu kernel is being linked to for the nvidia-glx?
[08:27] <levander> PrimeHex: That's KDE in that screen shot?
[08:27] <Ashton_Ke> SLI is a joke, tbh.
[08:27] <PrimeHex> levander: that's gnome
[08:27] <levander> toulouse: Yeah, in feisty, there are third party repositories available to put Beryl on Edgy though.
[08:27] <petriborg> (this is important to me because i really don't feel like recompiling the linker to the nvidia binaries)
[08:27] <PrimeHex> Ashton_Ke: not when you feel like using 4 monitors :D
[08:27] <Ashton_Ke> From what I've heard, it's only really good for giant resolutions.
[08:27] <Ashton_Ke> Which... 4 monitors would be.
[08:27] <PrimeHex> Ashton_Ke: :D
[08:27] <PrimeHex> also, running it to my 60inch lcd is also nice
[08:27] <toulouse> hey may i reccomend the berylwiki? it's where i learned how to install beryl---worked 1st time, like a charm
[08:27] <Ashton_Ke> I saw somebody trying to sell a laptop with SLI.
[08:28] <PrimeHex> yea, berylwiki is very, very nice
[08:28] <Ashton_Ke> Sounds like a bad idea.
[08:28] <toulouse> btw, dont put beryl to your startup scripts until it works!
[08:28] <levander> PrimeHex: I see now, the theme you got makes the buttons on the window title bars look like KDE to me.
[08:28] <Ashton_Ke> Cook on your laptop while you wait!
[08:28] <PrimeHex> Ashton_Ke: sounds like a spermkiller
[08:28] <toulouse> i did that wrong
[08:28] <PrimeHex> levander: :D
[08:28] <gop> hey
[08:28] <toulouse> well, im going to bed guys
[08:28] <violot> petriborg, try going to #ubuntu-xgl and asking who owns http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/
[08:28] <toulouse> good luck
[08:28] <petriborg> toulouse - yes i know about the berylwiki - i just don't want to have a lot of issues later
[08:28] <violot> he can help you most likely
[08:28] <gop> what software do I need for ubuntu to work with my tv tunner card
[08:28] <petriborg> ok violot
[08:28] <levander> SLI is for hard core gamers willing to spend the bucks.  That's about it
[08:28] <gop> what software in ubuntu can I watch tv via my tv tunner card
[08:28] <Ashton_Ke> Levander, not really.
[08:28] <toulouse> it worked for me -that's no gaurantee it will work for others
[08:28] <violot> He was the one that got it working for me
[08:28] <levander> gop: MythTV is a full blown PVR software package.
[08:29] <Ashton_Ke> SLI doesn't provide much of a boost in rendering time, only in maximum resolution.
[08:29] <levander> gop: There are smaller ones "apt-cache search tv" to find them.
[08:29] <Ashton_Ke> If you're running a nice projector, or 4 monitors (like our local nut Prime here), SLI is worth it.
[08:29] <toulouse> anyone know how to get halo demo working under wine?
[08:29] <Ashton_Ke> But if the highest you can go is 1280x1024 (or 1044x900 here (Hooray widescreen!))
[08:29] <Ashton_Ke> SLI is not worth the cost.
[08:29] <Ashton_Ke> Better of purchasing a shiny new 8800GT or whatever, instead of two 6800GT's.
[08:29] <levander> Ashton_Ke: wouldn't it just be easier to have four desktops on at most two monitors than to have four monitors?
[08:29] <toulouse> is transgaming worth the cost??
[08:30] <petriborg> violot - yeah i'm just reluctant to jump to edgy without knowing how that will turn out - i have a very nice stable dapper but has old 8776 drivers on it
[08:30] <Ashton_Ke> Levander, 4 monitors is actually very cool.
[08:30] <PrimeHex> indeed
[08:30] <violot> My dapper was very stable, and I gambled and upgraded to Edgy and it was fine.
[08:30] <PrimeHex> rotating the cube still gives me vertigo
[08:30] <missing_> anerotech: u still here?
[08:30] <toulouse> 4monitors! wtf, im on one monitor, darn i feel small
[08:30] <levander> I can't imagine myself doing enough stuff that I'd want four monitors.  Two monitors would come in handy, at times.
[08:30] <PrimeHex> because it's physically impossible, but it messes with you
[08:30] <Ashton_Ke> Are they set up in a square format prime, or are they all out in a line?
[08:30] <arrenlex> My dapper was very stable, and I gambled and upgraded to Edgy, and it turned out so bad I went back to Debian. :)
[08:30] <violot> Two monitors is nice :)
[08:30] <PrimeHex> levander: irc irc wow and internet
[08:30] <toulouse> cube works for me
[08:31] <Ashton_Ke> I have a nice 19" widescreen LCD, good enough for me.
[08:31] <Ashton_Ke> :P
[08:31] <toulouse> 4 desktops
[08:31] <Ashton_Ke> Forget cubes! I want more geometric shapes, now!
[08:31] <PrimeHex> toulouse: but see, rotating the cube on 4 monitors means you see all four corners turn at once, which means if you do it on accident or too fast you get very confused and dizzy
[08:31] <petriborg> arrenlex - that is what i'm worried about!
[08:31] <violot> Ashton_Ke, you can
[08:31] <levander> PrimeHex: what is wow?
[08:31] <violot> Add more/less desktops
[08:31] <kraut> moin
[08:31] <Ashton_Ke> Ooooh.
[08:31] <PrimeHex> levander: world of warcraft
[08:31] <petriborg> arrenlex - i'd probably do the same if edgy didn't go well :/
[08:31] <missing_> can anyone help me i get a make error when i try to compile a module http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38984/
[08:32] <levander> You can play world of warcraft and browse the web at the same time?  That game is that slow paced?
[08:32] <petriborg> primehex - WoW is why i'm looking to go to edgy :D
[08:32] <violot> I wish gnome could do 4 desktops for each monitor instead of 4 total, like E17 can do
[08:32] <jair> there is any application on ubuntu that makes easier and quicker to have a photoalbun integrated into apache two.  I mean a tool that can gather a group of pictures. resize them, create thumbnails and then prepare a web page?
[08:32] <Bakefy> in the smb.conf file, what is "security  = user"
[08:32] <Ashton_Ke> Prime, are your monitors in a square configuration, or are they in a line?
[08:32] <violot> jair: Try Gallery2?
[08:32] <Ashton_Ke> jair, I believe Google has a suite for that.
[08:32] <jair> I would like to have a easy to use photo albun integrated on my site
[08:32] <PrimeHex> Ashton_Ke: in a line, but they're shaped like \__/ around me
[08:32] <Ashton_Ke> Ohhhh.
[08:32] <PrimeHex> yea
[08:32] <jair> Ashton_Ke: I will check that
[08:32] <Ashton_Ke> I've just got a 19" LCD, but it was free.
[08:32] <violot> I thought Picasa uploaded to sites?
[08:32] <Ashton_Ke> So.....
[08:32] <Ashton_Ke> Yeah.
[08:33] <PrimeHex> that's why it messes with me when I rotate the cube, and using a panel isn't much better
[08:33] <jair> violot: all right I will check that
[08:33] <violot> Google's Picasa got a Linux version too
[08:33] <missing_> jair: i think convert can do that
[08:33] <violot> Gallery2 is nice
[08:33] <pramz> hello everyone
[08:33] <jair> violot: I will check those options guys thanks
[08:33] <PrimeHex> picasa is nice, very user friendly
[08:33] <violot> yeah
[08:33] <jair> there is picasa for Linux?
[08:33] <PrimeHex> yes
[08:33] <Ashton_Ke> Google has some very good coders.
[08:33] <PrimeHex> indeed
[08:33] <Nembutal> the windows version of picasa works with wine anyway
[08:33] <jair> great
[08:33] <Ashton_Ke> I believe they make some open source stuff too?
[08:33] <missing_> yes go i sugest cheking out automatix to install it
[08:33] <jair> I will be checking that
[08:33] <Nembutal> even though, the linux version is done with winelib
[08:33] <Nembutal> :)
[08:33] <pramz> well picasa for linux is done with winelib
[08:33] <PrimeHex> :D
[08:33] <violot> Yeah, that's the bad part ;)
[08:33] <pramz> but it works great
[08:33] <Nembutal> but actually
[08:34] <Nembutal> I prefert he windows version ;P
[08:34] <jair> ohh ok
[08:34] <PrimeHex> lol
[08:34] <pramz> same with google earth for linux
[08:34] <Ashton_Ke> Who cares what it's made with, as long as it works!
[08:34] <jair> ohh ok
[08:34] <missing_> its not bad they contributted a lot to the wine comunity
[08:34] <juanchito2006> Hello, after installing the ati driver and rebooting, the monitor gets out of sync. How do I fix this?
[08:34] <PrimeHex> arrenlex: did you notice the z06 picture on my desktop or not? i just thought it was funny you used a vette in an analogy
[08:34] <violot> jair, I'm trying to find my friend's online gallery thing he made
[08:34] <violot> I don't know if it is open source or not though
[08:34] <violot> I forget, so I'll look
[08:34] <missing_> juanchito: u havent fixed it yet?
[08:34] <ozzloy> t
[08:34] <jair> violot: using the program gallery?
[08:35] <missing_> juanchito: i can help you out by editing the xorg.onf file
[08:35] <Ashton_Ke> jair: I think he means his friend made a different piece of software.
[08:35] <violot> jair, no, he wrote his own software
[08:35] <gop> !tv
[08:35] <jair> wow
[08:35] <jair> good stuff
[08:35] <Ashton_Ke> !grue
[08:35] <missing_> juanchito: paste your xorg.con file from /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:36] <missing_> and give me the adress
[08:36] <Ashton_Ke> I hope he backed up old xorg.conf
[08:36] <petriborg> violot - one last question, you ever update you're kernel yet since installing this beryl guys nvidia stuff?
[08:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:36] <ubotu> The grue is a sinister, lurking presence in the dark places of the earth. Its favorite diet is adventurers, but its insatiable appetite is tempered by its fear of light. No grue has ever been seen by the light of day, and few have survived its fearsome jaws to tell the tale. Also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grue_(monster)
[08:36] <sushi_> I made a new user account.   I want this user to be ablel to use sudo to do tasks (like mount volumes, change files, etc.)  but it says that only my first user can do sudo?   How do I fix this?
[08:36] <Ashton_Ke> Sorry, had to.
[08:36] <Ashton_Ke> :P
[08:36] <violot> I run 2.6.17-10-generic
[08:36] <Ashton_Ke> Hrm, there's a specific group you have to add your user to.
[08:36] <PrimeHex> petriborg: i've used beryl and updated shit all the time, it's very odd that you actually have problems with it, and if you do you can just turn it off till you fix it
[08:36] <TooR4u> anyone works with gmailfs??
[08:36] <missing_> tv?
[08:36] <Ashton_Ke> Uhhh, it might be "wheel"
[08:37] <TooR4u> gmail file system
[08:37] <gop> missing_,  tv tunner
[08:37] <Bakefy> Why won't windows let me access my linux smb share with out a password.  my modded xbox works fine with it
[08:37] <missing_> withc one?
[08:37] <sushi_> Ashton_Ke if I just change my group to my first user ( "pot" ) then it should work?
[08:37] <gop> any one
[08:37] <sushi_> or change him to root group?
[08:37] <Ashton_Ke> Hold on.
[08:37] <gop> missing_,  I am trying to find one that workw with my tv tunner card
[08:37] <missing_> gop what do u want to know?
[08:37] <missing_> get a winpauge
[08:37] <gop> how to get my tv tunner ati 200 tv wonder to work
[08:37] <petriborg> primehex i haven't had a problem with it, i'm just being careful thanks
[08:37] <missing_> just dont get an ati one i have an all in wonder
[08:37] <gop> so ati ones won't work
[08:37] <violot> jair, his software is this: http://www.noelcower.com/120  I'm asking it if it is free right now
[08:37] <Ashton_Ke> Go to system -> Administration -> Users and Groups
[08:38] <Ashton_Ke> Find your new profile.
[08:38] <_linux> Hi, when i try to start kubuntu it freeses during boot at "Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)" i can click enter there and i get a ternimal based login, but when i login and do "startx" it gives me abunch of errors with saying "Read Only File System" one of them being "Cant create /tmp/.X0-lock Read only file system" how can i fix this so i can boot up again?
[08:38] <Ashton_Ke> Check "Properties"
[08:38] <missing_> no im sorry they use that rae theather
[08:38] <gop> I am using xawtv
[08:38] <missing_> if they used the bt chiip it would work
[08:38] <gop> but it won't show tv
[08:38] <Ashton_Ke> Then go to "User priviledges" and check "Allow user to execute Administrative tasks"
[08:38] <Ashton_Ke> Got that?
[08:38] <petriborg> primehex, i'm a programmer and i need my linux to work most of the time, tinkering and games in linux = good, spending lots of down time, really bad
[08:38] <gop> what software beside mthtv and xwtv
[08:38] <PrimeHex> petriborg: i've had maybe, 5 minutes of downtime
[08:38] <gop> are thier in linux
[08:38] <missing_> gop: yeah xawtv wont give me anythiung either
[08:38] <Ashton_Ke> (Hey, it's at 84%)
[08:38] <petriborg> primehex excellent thanks
[08:38] <cge> Has anyone here ever used ld10k1?
[08:38] <sushi_> Ashton_Ke : Thanks , good solution !
[08:38] <gop> what other tv tunner software is thier
[08:39] <Ashton_Ke> No problem.
[08:39] <violot> petriborg: I run 2.6.17-10-generic
[08:39] <missing_> gop: i actually used vlc in windows but i dont know how it would work in linux
[08:39] <Ashton_Ke> gop, try knoppmyth?
[08:39] <violot> missing_, VLC is amazing in Linux
[08:39] <petriborg> violot - ok thanks
[08:39] <Ashton_Ke> Distro built around MythTV.
[08:39] <gop> oh vlc works with channel surferng
[08:39] <pluto> Hi, Im trying to back up one of my DVDs that I just bought to prevent scratches. It's a DVD9, and I want it to fit on a DVD5. K9copy always crashes when it gets to 99 percent of the read. Any way to copy from the command line or with another application? I want original menus etc.
[08:39] <missing_> WOW they got a knoppix myth tv dis!!!!!!
[08:39] <missing_> what a gift from heaven!!!
[08:39] <erpo> pluto: Use DVDDecrypter and DVDShrink under wine.
[08:39] <heatxsink> anyone in here
[08:39] <heatxsink> grr
[08:39] <gop> missing_,  how do you watch tv in vlc
[08:40] <heatxsink> nm
[08:40] <Ashton_Ke> I guess so, we have a DVD labeled "Knopmyth"
[08:40] <missing_> violot yeah it is but its more amazing in windows for some reason
[08:40] <KrisWood> Ok I'm back with more networking wierdness. It seems that disabling dhcp didn't fix it
[08:40] <Ashton_Ke> In our "Big case of Linux discs"
[08:40] <_linux> Hi, when i try to start kubuntu it freeses during boot at "Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)" i can click enter there and i get a ternimal based login, but when i login and do "startx" it gives me abunch of errors with saying "Read Only File System" one of them being "Cant create /tmp/.X0-lock Read only file system" how can i fix this so i can boot up again?
[08:40] <heatxsink> has anyone in here use SVN with hooks to send an email out when something has been committed
[08:40] <arrenlex> heatxsink: Only 798 people right now... it's more usually. I hope it is enough to help you.
[08:40] <violot> missing_, oh, I thought you were asking if it had it or how to install it, sorry ;)
[08:40] <gop> missing_,  in windows how do you watch tv via vlc
[08:40] <heatxsink> arrenlex:  I miss typed
[08:40] <heatxsink> sorry
[08:40] <missing_> gop: well in windows i go to the file then open capture device
[08:40] <gop> yea
[08:40] <gop> what else
[08:40] <arrenlex> _linux: Is your root filesystem read-only?
[08:41] <pluto> Tried that erpo, but I can't get wine to recognize my drives. I've tried by going through and setting the right windows nt and all that, with no luck
[08:41] <Trentster> Hi all, is there a correct or reccomended way of installing nvidia 9746 drivers, should i download and try install from nvidia site or is the a correct source i should add to my apt list.?
[08:41] <Ashton_Ke> Trenster
[08:41] <erpo> pluto: Are you using the latest version of wine?
[08:41] <Ashton_Ke> !nvidia-glx
[08:41] <_linux> arrenlex: it shouldnt be, but it seems like it got set to it, how can i change it
[08:41] <missing_> juanchito: paste your xorg.con file from /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:41] <pluto> I'm  using what ever comes out of the repos on edgy so I'd think so
[08:41] <Ashton_Ke> Hopefully ubotu will find it.
[08:41] <KrisWood> firestarter is up and running but I've got no internet connectivity on the rest of the network. The eth1 is my internet interface and eth0 is my lan interface. I'm getting some really bizarre network latency when trying to ping my other machines from the linux box and the other machines can't ping the linux box at all. Any ideas?
[08:41] <ubotu> nvidia-glx: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 1.0.8776+2.6.17.6-1 (edgy), package size 3970 kB, installed size 12312 kB
[08:41] <petriborg> pluto - have you added the /dev/hdXX link to dosdevices/d::
[08:41] <arrenlex> _linux: What's the output of "ls -ld /"?
[08:42] <Ashton_Ke> Hold on.
[08:42] <arrenlex> _linux: also ls -ld /tmp
[08:42] <missing_> can anyone help me i get a make error when i try to compile a module http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38984/
[08:42] <pluto> No, haven't ever heard of that petriborg, how do I do it?
[08:42] <Trentster> arrenlex, thanks for the help with that generic thing...i just removed the 386 entries from the grub entries and booted into generic, but update still wants to install 386 kernel and patches, and i just have to uncheck it every time...oh well....at least its a workaround.
[08:42] <KrisWood> all of the machines are on the same subnet, 255.255.0.0 with IP addresses of 192.168.15.x
[08:42] <violot> jair, I don't think the MiniGallery software from noelcower.com is available anymore, sorry.  I think he trashed it
[08:42] <MybJames> WOW
[08:42] <_linux> arrenlex: im on a live CD right now
[08:42] <violot> jair, go with Gallery2 or something
[08:42] <missing_> !bint
[08:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bint - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:42] <arrenlex> _linux: What are you trying to do from the liveCD?
[08:43] <arrenlex> Trentster: Just remove the 386 kernel completely.
[08:43] <jair> violot: Thank you very much for your help
[08:43] <_linux> arrenlex: get help on how to fix my system
[08:43] <MybJames> /ns ghost darth_afro56 fagchops
[08:43] <Trentster> arrenlex, how do i do that?
[08:43] <MybJames> lul
[08:43] <jair> violot: I am checking in gallery2 is for Linux. and I think is a windows app? correct?
[08:43] <violot> jair, no problem, even though I didn't do much ;)
[08:43] <missing_> trentster: i thnk the program is called bint or the like icant remember but ubotu has the answer
[08:43] <KrisWood> wierd, my linux box can't ping itself on the eth0 ip address
[08:43] <violot> Gallery2 is a PHP app IIRC
[08:43] <juanchito2006> !linux
[08:43] <ubotu> linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[08:43] <Bakefy> CAn anyone help me to connect to Samba from XP
[08:44] <heqs> !linux
[08:44] <violot> jair, http://gallery.menalto.com/
[08:44] <pluto> Is there a way to run Decrypter successfully?
[08:44] <juanchito2006> !debian
[08:44] <ubotu> Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship
[08:44] <Ashton_Ke> Trendster: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:44] <juanchito2006> !ubuntu
[08:44] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[08:44] <missing_> bakefy: u mean the password thing?
[08:44] <n2diy> KrisWood:  can it ping 127.0.0.1?
[08:44] <arrenlex> Trentster: dpkg -l | grep image | grep 386 | cut -d " " -f 3 | xargs sudo apt-get remove --purge -y
[08:44] <foo> When will php 5.2 be available on ubuntu 6.06 LTS?
[08:44] <Trentster> Ashton_Ke, thanks
[08:44] <Bakefy> missing_: yes
[08:44] <violot> jair, are you looking for something like Gallery or an app to upload and such automatically?
[08:44] <KrisWood> n2diy: yes
[08:44] <jair> violot: ohh so I will have to read about it
[08:44] <violot> jair, BTW, have you tried Flickr?
[08:44] <Trentster> arrenlex, thanks man!
[08:45] <Bakefy> missing_: I can connect with other devices... i can't get windows to not use a password
[08:45] <KrisWood> ok nm I typosed the ip the first time it is able to ping eth0
[08:45] <jair> Flickr? no never heard of it.
[08:45] <violot> jair, unless you want it on your website
[08:45] <Samus_Aran> can anyone suggest why CUPS no longer has the option of using a USB printer ?  it used to have my Samsung printer listed fine, but no longer shows anything but LPT1 and a virtual PDF printer
[08:45] <jair> I want it on my web site
[08:45] <Ashton_Ke> No problem.
[08:45] <violot> Flickr only does off site, but gives you a free gallery with stuff
[08:45] <violot> I'd go with Gallery2 then
[08:45] <n2diy> Ok, so ping is working ,and the boxes loopback is working, your problem is with ethX.
[08:45] <KrisWood> still can't ping any other machine though
[08:45] <jair> violot: I have apache two already running here--> www.pcguruji.com
[08:46] <violot> Oh, if you want it on site, I'd go for Gallery2
[08:46] <Ashton_Ke> Flickr good....
[08:46] <pluto> I think I'mma hit the forums and hope for an up to date howto
[08:46] <Ashton_Ke> Sorry, zombie-response.
[08:46] <mojojojo__> is there sth like untested packages in Ubuntu? :)
[08:46] <_linux> arrenlex: get help on how to fix my system
[08:46] <KrisWood> it can ping one of the windows machines but half the time it says Destination Host Unreachable
[08:46] <KrisWood> and that windows box can't get online
[08:46] <missing_> about the decryptor question http://www.linuxeq.com/ has the answer
[08:46] <violot> But Flickr is good for non-on-site-hosting-of-photos-wow-this-is-a-long-word-thing
[08:46] <_linux> Hi, when i try to start kubuntu it freeses during boot at "Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)" i can click enter there and i get a ternimal based login, but when i login and do "startx" it gives me abunch of errors with saying "Read Only File System" one of them being "Cant create /tmp/.X0-lock Read only file system" how can i fix this so i can boot up again?
[08:46] <n2diy> KrisWood: address me, so your posts are highlighted here. Are you running a firewall, or rounter?
[08:46] <Bakefy> missing_:   Any ideas?  my modded xbox running wbmc can get on my smb with no problems... no password needed
[08:46] <KrisWood> the rest of the machines don't respond at all
[08:46] <CryptoMole> hi all
[08:46] <KrisWood> n2diy: sorry
[08:47] <KrisWood> n2diy: I'm running firestarter as the firewall, my ubuntu box acts as my router
[08:47] <missing_> bakefy: well no i dont actually i had to set one on my windows box sorry i cant help you
[08:47] <arrenlex> _linux: Do you know the device node name of your Linux root filesystem? Like /dev/sda2 or whatever?
[08:47] <Rob-West> !pastebin
[08:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:47] <jair> violot: I will go with gallery2 Thanks
[08:47] <violot> jair, good luck :)
[08:47] <_linux> arrenlex: /dev/hda1
[08:47] <missing_> juanchito: do u want me to help you?
[08:47] <Ashton_Ke> Always a bad sign, "Good luck!"
[08:47] <Ashton_Ke> It's almost as if the words "You'll need it" should've been added.
[08:48] <violot> Pfff, it's just a photo gallery :P
[08:48] <sushi_> Ashton_ke I checked all the boxes in User Privilages and still I can't do administration tasks
[08:48] <n2diy> KrisWood: roger that. Can you disable the firewall and try pinging?
[08:48] <KrisWood> trying
[08:48] <violot> I have confidence if he's set up his current site with php that he can unzip a folder ;)
[08:48] <Bakefy> missing_: I can connect with other devices... i can't get windows to not use a password?
[08:48] <KrisWood> still unreachable from the windows boxes
[08:48] <Bakefy> sory
[08:49] <n2diy> KrisWood: address me, so your posts are highlighted
[08:49] <Bakefy> missing_:   what do you use for your default password?
[08:49] <arrenlex> _linux: Do this from the liveCD: "sudo mkdir /target && sudo mount /dev/hda1 /target && sudo chroot /target"
[08:49] <missing_> pluto: did u check http://www.linuxeq.com/
[08:49] <arrenlex> _linux: Tell me when you're done.
[08:49] <KrisWood> n2diy: sorry, kinda new to this irc thing
[08:49] <PrimeHex> WTF it's 3 am
[08:49] <n2diy> KrisWood: is Samba, and Shares setup?
[08:49] <PrimeHex> I still have to play viva pinata and elebits
[08:49] <PrimeHex> damnit
[08:49] <petribor1> dangit
[08:49] <violot> Holy crap.
[08:49] <foo> I want to upgrade to php 5.2 instead of 5.1.2 on ubuntu server. What's the best way to go about this?
[08:49] <arrenlex> PrimeHex: Only 12:49 here.
[08:49] <missing_> bakefy: something simple "allcodecs"
[08:49] <KrisWood> n2diy: it's still unreachable from the windows machines, samba and shares are set up, everything worked fine before the power went out
[08:49] <violot> I didn't realize it was 3!
[08:50] <PrimeHex> arrenlex: wanna send your privage jet over?
[08:50] <PrimeHex> violot: lol, you're welcome
[08:50] <violot> :P Thanks :P
[08:50] <n2diy> KrisWood: no problem on being new to IRC, I am too.
[08:50] <_linux> arrenlex: mkdir: cannot create directory `/target': Read-only file system
[08:50] <PrimeHex> s/privage/private/
[08:50] <Bakefy> missing_:   how did you set that password?
[08:50] <Ashton_Ke> It's 3? Oh boy, I need to be up at 8 tomorrow.
[08:50] <Ashton_Ke> This might be bad.
[08:50] <violot> Me too :)
[08:50] <arrenlex> _linux: ..from the liveCD?
[08:50] <PrimeHex> pluto: transportation, 13$ an hour, and you have yourself a driver-installing slave
[08:50] <missing_> bakefy: ohh u mean on the linux side
[08:50] <n2diy> KrisWood: ah, power failure, not good.
[08:50] <_linux> arrenlex: yes
[08:51] <Bakefy> yeayh
[08:51] <Ashton_Ke> I'm volunteering as some place or another tomorrow.
[08:51] <Ashton_Ke> Physical work, bad time to be sleep deprived.
[08:51] <PrimeHex> heh
[08:51] <missing_> bakefy: jaja i cant do it it has something to do with pam and i dont need to know that yet
[08:51] <arrenlex> _linux: What happens if you do this? mount -o remount,rw /
[08:51] <n2diy> KrisWood: from a terminial run ifconfig.
[08:51] <Ashton_Ke> I'll call it insomnia and pass off the responsibility to the government somehow.
[08:51] <arrenlex> _linux: Uh, sudo on that
[08:51] <PrimeHex> DAMNIT ubuntu, I wish this os didn't kick so much ass
[08:51] <missing_> sorry
[08:51] <pluto> PrimeHex: I'm getting close to trying to find someone online to compile these drivers for me and make it a nice deb..
[08:51] <petribor1> smart people: i need to ensure one drive gets completely blanked (the old root, swap and boot), what is the best way to do that when doing the install?
[08:51] <PrimeHex> pluto: :P
[08:51] <frogzoo> KrisWood: power failure is only an issue if the disks are writing when the power's cut - I doubt it should break networking unless you're changing files at the time
[08:51] <Bakefy> missing_:   okay
[08:51] <arrenlex> pluto: What drivers are these?
[08:51] <missing_> pluto: what do u mean a slave?
[08:52] <arrenlex> pluto: Are you following a howto? Are you using module-assistant?
[08:52] <_linux> arrenlex: whats it suspose to do? i didnt get an error or anything, so im assuming it did what it was suspose to do
[08:52] <missing_> can anyone help me with modula assistant?
[08:52] <KrisWood> n2diy: done, what do you want to know from ifconfig? I know it's odd, I'm wondering if maybe something got bumped when I was stumbling around in the dark
[08:52] <frogzoo> !helpme | missing_
[08:52] <ubotu> missing_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:52] <arrenlex> _linux: It remounts the root filesystem read-write. xD
[08:52] <pluto> Nope arrenlex, just got the source drivers for this Touchscreen of mine and MAN they are a bihotch
[08:52] <violot> Ohhhhh, touchscreen, yummy
[08:52] <violot> Has anyone used Linux with a smart board?
[08:53] <_linux> arrenlex: yay!
[08:53] <pluto> Not if it hooks up from usb violot
[08:53] <Ashton_Ke> hrm
[08:53] <missing_> hey frogzoo u remember the problem i had yesterday? with not beeing able to compile ?
[08:53] <arrenlex> _linux: Now try "sudo mkdir /target && sudo mount /dev/hda1 /target && sudo chroot /target"
[08:53] <n2diy> KrisWood: I think the power failure caused your modem to grab another internet address.
[08:53] <surya> hhhhhhhhhhhhiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[08:53] <violot> arrenlex, happy almost-birthday :)
[08:53] <KrisWood> n2diy: yes, it did
[08:53] <arrenlex> violot: Well it is my birthday technically, as it's past midnight.
[08:53] <missing_> can anyone help me with module assist im getting this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38984/
[08:53] <n2diy> KrisWood: Ok, so we need to tell your box what the new one is.
[08:53] <violot> arrenlex, ah, good point
[08:53] <violot> Happy birthday then :)
[08:54] <arrenlex> missing_: Have you run "m-a prepare"?
[08:54] <Ashton_Ke> How come the nvidia-glx driver only wants me to have 800x600 as my highest resolution?
[08:54] <Ashton_Ke> And how can I change that?
[08:54] <arrenlex> !fixres | Ashton_Ke
[08:54] <pluto> Stupid thing would work fine if I could do a make clean, but instead I get some weird errors, even after i've unistalled and reinstalled the source
[08:54] <ubotu> Ashton_Ke: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:54] <violot> arrenlex:  *<:o)   <-- Smiley in party hat ;)
[08:54] <KrisWood> n2diy: yes but shouldn't dhcp automaticly get that? I mean, my ubuntu box is online or I wouldn't be on this irc
[08:54] <jair> violot: Thanks, Gallery looks like a very cool project
[08:54] <juanchito2006> !paste
[08:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:54] <violot> jair, good luck with it, it's great :)
[08:54] <KrisWood> n2diy: it's the static local IP that's having trouble
[08:54] <missing_> arrenlex: yes still no luck
[08:55] <_linux> arrenlex: mkdir: cannot create directory `/target': Read-only file system
[08:55] <arrenlex> _linux: I don't know, man. Never seen that before from a liveCD. Sorry. = /
[08:55] <n2diy> KrisWood: It is working! But why wouldn't ping work?
[08:55] <arrenlex> missing_: Are you on a custom kernel?
[08:55] <KrisWood> I don't know. The internet connection sharing through the firewall isn't working either
[08:56] <juanchito2006> Look at this (usenet archive) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38987/
[08:56] <aresgunther> hey I have a irc question
[08:56] <KrisWood> n2diy: I don't know. The internet connection sharing through the firewall isn't working either
[08:56] <n2diy> KrisWood: Why would a static local IP be effected by a power outage?
[08:56] <juanchito2006> aresgunther: ask
[08:56] <aresgunther> where can I find a proxy to use with IRC?
[08:56] <KrisWood> n2diy: I don't know, that's why I'm here >.<
[08:56] <aresgunther> so my ip isn't out in the open
[08:56] <missing_> arrenlex: yes and all the surce and headers are there ive already ran module assist prepare update and build fails
[08:56] <nix_ferret> Anyone know how I could copy a bunch of jpgs in a bunch of folders to one folder?
[08:56] <n2diy> KrisWood: Reset your router?
[08:57] <PrimeHex> ok
[08:57] <PrimeHex> I'm back
[08:57] <PrimeHex> it's faster now
[08:57] <KrisWood> n2diy: My linux box IS my router
[08:57] <nix_ferret> cp -R *.jpg?
[08:57] <juanchito2006> aresgunther: try googlin it
[08:57] <n2diy> KrisWood: Reset your modem?
[08:57] <arrenlex> missing_: If you're sure you have headers, then I don't know. Never had any experience with custom kernels.
[08:57] <aresgunther> I tried many times
[08:57] <arrenlex> nix_ferret: No. That won't work.
[08:57] <aresgunther> I can't find a reasonable way to do it
[08:57] <aresgunther> do you use a proxy?
[08:57] <KrisWood> n2diy: done many many times now
[08:58] <n2diy> KrisWood: I'm waiting for the calvary to arrive, I'm just guessing!
[08:58] <KrisWood> n2diy: lol thanks
[08:58] <nix_ferret> any ideas?
[08:58] <missing_> arrenlex: i c the weird part is that ive rebuilt the same modules on my previos kernel before so its not that i did somethin wrong i used the same tutorials both time
[08:58] <KrisWood> n2diy: methinks I'll shut down the linux box, make sure the nic is firmly seated, check all the wires, and try again
[08:59] <KrisWood> brb
[08:59] <n2diy> KrisWood: Good luck, wish I could have been more helpful.
[08:59] <aresgunther> any cheep wireless cards for a laptop that should work out of the box?
[08:59] <n2diy> KrisWood: That is a good plan.
[08:59] <Ashton_Ke> Anything with the Orinoco driver, or Atheros, in my experience.
[09:00] <aresgunther> anyone know how to use a proxy with IRC?
[09:01] <missing_> can anyone help me with module assist im getting this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38984/ it has something to do with linux/config.h
[09:02] <missing_> aresgunther: u have all the proxy information already?
[09:02] <erpo> I have a project that uses autogen (build instructions are ./autogen.sh;make;make install). I need to compile this C program with the -g flag. How do I do this?
[09:02] <aresgunther> no
[09:02] <aresgunther> I still need help
[09:02] <aresgunther> any ideas?
[09:03] <missing_> ares: well u dont have a proxy server?
[09:03] <aresgunther> no
[09:03] <aresgunther> I don't know how to use one with irc
[09:03] <missing_> ares: then u want to find a public proxyserver?
[09:03] <neurotech> PrimeHex|Games arrrrhhh!
[09:04] <TooR4u> !gmailfs
[09:04] <cge> missing_: It sounds to me like ares wants to know how to use one.
[09:04] <aresgunther> I found a list, but none of them worked with irc, they got rejected for one reason or another.
[09:04] <cge> aresgunther: Why do you want to use one?
[09:04] <_linux> how do i change my system from read only to read-write?
[09:04] <ubotu> gmailfs: Use your GMail account as a filesystem. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.7.2-2 (edgy), package size 24 kB, installed size 156 kB
[09:04] <aresgunther> I don't like my ip address in plain sight.
[09:05] <n2diy> _linux: You don' want to do that!
[09:05] <cge> aresgunther: Hmm... you could use freenode's tor service if you run tor - it works very well and has surprisingly low latency for a tor connection.
[09:05] <missing_> well u cant use one if u dont have a server to connect to but u need an ip and some ports go here to look at some public servers http://www.publicproxyservers.com/page1.html
[09:05] <aresgunther> anyway other then a proxy to get rid of that information?
[09:06] <mokkan> how i install firfocks 2 on ubuntoo
[09:06] <cge> aresgunther: If you only care about freenode, then you could also become a PDPC member and get a cloak.
[09:06] <aresgunther> because if I look up 'ubotu' 's information their ip address is not there.
[09:06] <aresgunther> eh?
[09:06] <mokkan> ne help? plz?
[09:06] <_linux> n2diy: yes i do, its at read only now, so it cant create the files it needs to boot
[09:06] <neurotech> Xgl is using 40% CPU, wtf?
[09:06] <aresgunther> elaborate, please.
[09:06] <mokkan> ill b ur best frend :\
[09:06] <missing_> ares: heres a list http://www.publicproxyservers.com/page1.html
[09:06] <_linux>  /join #beryl
[09:06] <missing_> neurotech: u got it working?
[09:07] <petriborg> wow that took a long time for my ghost to go away
[09:07] <aresgunther> cge: please explain how I can do that.
[09:07] <neurotech> Yeah it was working fine missing_
[09:07] <mokkan> sigh, thx 4 nuthin
[09:07] <cge> aresgunther: Sorry, I was away from my computer for a bit to get my power cable.
[09:07] <n2diy> _linux: Then how I'm I reading your posts?
[09:07] <cge> aresgunther: Which one?
[09:07] <violot> TooR4u: Have you ever had problems with gmail as a file system?  Like deleted accounts?
[09:07] <Ashton_Ke> That mokkan guy sure was impatient.
[09:07] <aresgunther> cge: 'then you could also become a PDPC member and get a cloak.'
[09:07] <_linux> n2diy: im on a live CD
[09:07] <cge> aresgunther: Ah.
[09:07] <_linux> thats why my name is linux
[09:07] <neurotech> I rebooted and now Xgl is using like 41% CPU and Beryl makes all my titlebars disappear and reappear, flickering style
[09:08] <Jimerson> Anyone familiar with network problems in 6.10 running on a G5 iMac?
[09:08] <cge> aresgunther: One minute - I will find the instructions for you.
[09:08] <petriborg> neurotech - scary >.<
[09:08] <aresgunther> cge: Thanks.
[09:08] <missing_> well if i remember correctly u have to disable some kind of extension maybe the composite one
[09:08] <n2diy> _linux: Ok, so what happened to your install, that caused you to boot from the live CD?
[09:09] <_linux> n2diy: nothing happened on my install, my install has been good for 6 months, i just accidently turned my system to read only
[09:09] <spike723> what package do I want if I have firefox and I want flash / shockwave support?
[09:09] <petriborg> _linux: to read only in fstab?
[09:09] <violot> Anyone Evolution guru's here?
[09:10] <_linux> probably
[09:10] <violot> I have an account with a saved password, and I want to know it :P
[09:10] <_linux> i was messing with my fstab
[09:10] <violot> I forgot my password
[09:10] <petriborg> _linux: well that should be easy to fix yeah?
[09:10] <_linux> how do i change it?
[09:10] <violot> I'm transferring to Thunderbird, but I haven't used this address in 30 days, so I forget the password
[09:10] <KrisWood> n2diy: ok I fixed it
[09:10] <n2diy> _linux: you can't accidently do that, you did something, or an update did something.
[09:10] <cge> aresgunther: http://freenode.net/pdpc_donations.shtml. I had also heard that there were free cloaks as well, you might want to ask in #freenode. Finally, if you are a member of a group, such as an Ubuntu developer or Wikipedia editor, you can obtain a free group cloak through them. Wikipedia is particularly easy if you have a reasonable number of edits there.
[09:10] <KrisWood> n2diy: Apparently port 1 of my switch got fried in the power outage
[09:11] <petriborg> _linux: open a terminal, mount you're drive, and then use root to modify /etc/fstab
[09:11] <n2diy> _linux: What was the fix??!!
[09:11] <KrisWood> n2diy: moving my eth0 cable to port 5 fixed the issue
[09:11] <aresgunther> cge: Thanks for your help.
[09:11] <_linux> i know that, but what do i change in it
[09:11] <KrisWood> n2diy: time to buy a new switch I guess >.<
[09:11] <KrisWood> n2diy: thanks for the help though :)
[09:12] <n2diy> KrissWood, sorry to hear that, but glad your cooking agian.
[09:12] <petriborg> _linux: paste me the line and i will attempt to help
[09:12] <KrisWood> n2diy: NP, I'm glad for the help brainstorming, I guess that's what I really needed lol
[09:12] <cge> aresgunther: You're welcome. Hopefully the process still works well - the last time I bought a cloak it was before lilo had passed away.
[09:12] <neurotech> After getting XGL and Beryl 0.1.1 running nicely, I rebooted and now Xgl is hogging like 41% CPU and Beryl is causing my titlebars to flicker on and off. Any ideas?
[09:12] <n2diy> KrisWood, sorry to hear that, but glad your cooking agian.
[09:12] <KrisWood> ok I'm off, night all!
[09:12] <n2diy> KrisWood, nada, stuff happens.
[09:12] <_linux> i dont want to mount my HD, somthin always goes wrong and it never works right
[09:12] <petriborg> neurotech - i would guess bad xorg config
[09:13] <nix_ferret> Dude, voltron on my tivo...nice.
[09:13] <petriborg> _linux: can you please give more details?
[09:13] <petriborg> _linux: "something goes wrong" meaning you have drive corruption?
[09:13] <_linux> no
[09:13] <jlowell> how do I get beryl to start on login in kde?
[09:14] <cge> Does anyone here use an emu10k1/2 based card such as an Audigy 1/2?
[09:14] <_linux> i just dont like dealing with mounting stuff
[09:14] <petriborg> _linux: well i'm sorry but that will be required to fix this problem
[09:14] <violot> Anyone know the answer to my Evolution problem?
[09:14] <_linux> but it wont, i can just boot up my ubuntu and do it that way
[09:14] <_linux> i just have to figure out what to change
[09:15] <Ashton_Ke> I'm out.
[09:15] <Ashton_Ke> Goodnight ladies and gentlemen, whichever is applicable.
[09:15] <petriborg> _linux: except there are maybe 3 or 4 ways to actually set you're drive to read only
[09:15] <violot> Goodbye
[09:15] <_linux> like what?
[09:15] <violot> Anyone know how to get a stored password in Evolution?
[09:16] <nix_ferret> is the connection over SSL violet?
[09:16] <petriborg> _linux: here are 2, 1. in the line look for "ro" it will appear in the option line (this might also be spelled out), 2. you might have a bad mask number something like 700  or 000 like mask=200 or something
[09:16] <moktod> how do install a newer version of a package (for example, gqview)
[09:16] <petriborg> those are what i can remember off the top of my head
[09:16] <moktod> i want the latest version that can deal with Nikon Raw images properly
[09:16] <violot> nix_ferret, it is just a password for one of my email accounts
[09:17] <cge> violot: From my cursory and outdated knowledge of Evolution, which is made yet more inaccurate by my dislike for the program, I believe that it stores passwords in GNOME's keyring, in which case you could use gnome-keyring-manager to obtain the passwords.
[09:17] <nix_ferret> Yeah, I'm aware
[09:17] <nix_ferret> Sniff the packet, it's in plain text
[09:17] <petriborg> i never did get around to using evolution :/
[09:17] <violot> Using wireshark?
[09:17] <nix_ferret> or grep the directory, but I doubt that's in plaintext
[09:17] <liberion> hey guys do they have a debian package of fretsonfire?
[09:17] <violot> I'm migrating to Thunderbird
[09:17] <n2diy> petriborg: you aren't missing anything.
[09:17] <violot> nix_ferret, using Wireshark?
[09:18] <cge> violot: Wireshark would work.
[09:18] <cge> violot: dsniff might be easier.
[09:18] <violot> Ok, I'll try
[09:18] <moktod> how do install a newer version of a package (for example, gqview)
[09:18] <nix_ferret> Dunno, I usually use winXP proggies
[09:18] <violot> I'll try dsniff
[09:18] <violot> Although wireshark was kind of easy when I tried
[09:19] <nix_ferret> I KNOW it get's transmitted in plain text b/c I sniffed my own
[09:19] <cge> violot: dsniff isn't a general sniffing program - it looks specifically for passwords.
[09:19] <violot> Ah, I guess that would be easier than
[09:19] <n2diy> moktod: apt-get upgrade install (package name)
[09:19] <violot> then
[09:19] <cge> nix_ferret: It depends on the client setup and server capabilities, and it is quite possible that it isn't transmitted in plaintext depending on the options.
[09:20] <nix_ferret> unless it's ssl or md5, then it's plaintext
[09:20] <nix_ferret> charter, comcast, alltel don't use any sort of special connections.
[09:20] <Ganjadude> damn alot of people in here, maybe i can get some help?
[09:21] <nix_ferret> I imagine none of the commercial ones do, so the AOLers can set it up easy.
[09:21] <moktod> n2diy, that does not appear to accomplish what I'd like done
[09:21] <cge> nix_ferret: Every single email server I use uses SSL or TLS, including SMTP servers.
[09:21] <cge> nix_ferret: But I see your point.
[09:22] <Ganjadude> IF anyone has any knowledge of hybrid IRCd and can help me out, i seem to only allow 1 user on at any given moment
[09:22] <nix_ferret> That's b/c yours aren't comcast or aol or something stupid
[09:22] <n2diy> moktod: Oh well, life is a beach!
[09:23] <nix_ferret> ...I imagine.
[09:23] <violot> I think I found it in wireshark
[09:23] <missing_> question is it possible to substitude aptitude for apt-get or are they diferent things? ive always used dkpg
[09:23] <violot> But it looks to be md5 sum, but I'm no expert
[09:23] <violot> I'm having a problem with dsniff
[09:23] <cge> missing_: Yes, it is possible. aptitude is a frontend to apt-get.
[09:23] <violot> dsniff: nids_init: no suitable device found
[09:23] <cge> violot: Dsniff probably doesn't show it because it isn't in plaintext.
[09:24] <violot> It uses SSL
[09:24] <violot> I think
[09:24] <violot> And it looks to be an md5 sum what I found
[09:24] <cge> violet: one moment.
[09:24] <violot> It was in "Application Data"
[09:24] <violot> Right after the "Here's what I can do .... Login .... .... " from the server
[09:25] <nix_ferret> If you don't know if your e-mail uses SSL, then you sure as heck don't know what a md5 hash looks like...
[09:25] <cge> violot: You could change the options in evolution.
[09:25] <violot> Well, it has a long list of numbers and letters XD
[09:25] <nix_ferret> hahah
[09:25] <missing_> cge: thank you ive wondered why there was a shell command that worked the same way as apt-get
[09:26] <missing_> thats redundant
[09:26] <IRCD_HELP_PLZ> any chance you might be of any assistance, im tryin to get hybrid IRCD going, i got eVERYTHING working, services and all.... but i can only connect 1 user at any given time
[09:26] <nix_ferret> to bad it's not in windows, you could get it quick with the iopus password proggie
[09:26] <violot> Doesn't aptitude also install the suggested packages?
[09:26] <cge> missing_: It isn't the same, though. Try running it without any commands.
[09:26] <zen2> lmao IRCD_HELP_PLZ
[09:26] <cge> missing_: It's more like synaptic.
[09:26] <IRCD_HELP_PLZ> yeah yeah i got 4 days to get this bug worked
[09:27] <zen2> yeah phill i know
[09:27] <IRCD_HELP_PLZ> lol
[09:27] <missing_> jajajajjajjajajjajaja i have found the solution to my make problem!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:27] <violot> cge: Change what options?
[09:27] <cge> violot: The server settings.
[09:27] <zen2> !ircd
[09:27] <violot> What server settings?
[09:27] <violot> :|
[09:28] <ubotu> ircd: IRC Server daemon - dummy package. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0 (edgy), package size 6 kB, installed size 36 kB
[09:28] <cge> violot: Password type
[09:28] <nix_ferret> in evolution, The SETTINGS MAN!.
[09:28] <nix_ferret> I need FULL POWER!
[09:28] <neurotech> is 0.1.4 available for ubuntu dapper 6.06?
[09:28] <missing_> if anyone comes in here with problems installing the ati 8.32.5 drivers tell them they dont compile properly!!
[09:28] <violot> Wait, MD5 is not allowed, all I get is password
[09:28] <nix_ferret> Well...yeah.
[09:29] <violot> I'm confused :|
[09:29] <nix_ferret> Is it comcast or something?
[09:29] <violot> I need to recover my password :P   That's about all I know
[09:29] <violot> ubuntusociety.org
[09:29] <nix_ferret> Who's the e-mail with?
[09:29] <violot> ubuntusociety.org
[09:29] <cge> violot: If I remember correctly some sort of trivial reversible hashing is used. Let me think of other ways.
[09:30] <nix_ferret> violet, can't you just go to http://www.ubuntusociety.org/index.php?option=com_comprofiler&task=lostPassword and get a new one?
[09:30] <zen2> !ircd-hybrid
[09:30] <ubotu> ircd-hybrid: high-performance secure IRC server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:7.0.3-3.1 (edgy), package size 492 kB, installed size 1976 kB
[09:31] <nix_ferret> I mean... XD
[09:31] <zen2> !ircd-hybrid links
[09:31] <tigerflyer> i have an external usb disk attached... it came out of an old linux laptop... is there a gui way to erase it all and repartition it?
[09:31] <violot> Doh!
[09:31] <violot> I couldn't find that link
[09:32] <zen2> yeah tigerflyer
[09:32] <tigerflyer> sweet... care to share zen2?
[09:32] <violot> nix_ferret, that is not for the webmail
[09:32] <zen2> what os you useing to do it
[09:33] <tigerflyer> ubuntu
[09:33] <violot> That is for the main site, they have different passwords
[09:33] <missing_> sudo shutdown -r now
[09:33] <cge> violot: Use gconf-editor to look in the evolution settings.
[09:34] <cge> violot: I'm having trouble testing since the only IMAP server on my local network only runs with SSL.
[09:34] <violot> cge: There doesn't seem to be anything holding my passwords :|
[09:34] <r_rehashed> hi
[09:35] <sb_> hello, right now I am trying to install Xubuntu 6.10 Edgy on an HP Brio, and it says the cd rom wont mount. Ive burnt countless cds of it, and the original cd installed just fine when I used it on another computer, which was an Hp E-pc (evectra). Even the original Cd wont work.....if that contributes to the probem, ive had to boot xubuntu from a floppytwith smart boot manager on it. However, if thats not the case, what should I do? the ISO file is on my
[09:35] <sb_>  main computer which is running Kubuntu 6.10 Edgy (with Gnome and KDE installed), so I cant run MD5summer.
[09:35] <nix_ferret> violot, it's got to be sent somewhere.
[09:35] <wiitard> Hello guys.
[09:35] <violot> I know, but I don't know where :P
[09:35] <linux_user400354> a
[09:35] <wiitard> Can some one help me install this Intel intergratioin of Hostap?
[09:35] <Lazyleaf> Does dig come with ubuntu 5.10?
[09:36] <violot> nix_ferret, nothing in gnome-keyring-manager
[09:36] <linux_user400354> what's dig?
[09:36] <foo> Anyone know where I can get php5.2 from? I don't see it in backports?
[09:36] <Lazyleaf> it's a utility that's part of bind9
[09:36] <Lazyleaf> i believe
[09:36] <wiitard> Helo?
[09:36] <cge> violot: Let me find a server I can safely log into in plain text.
[09:36] <emun> ubuntu is denying me access to system configuration ,cannot get into root with su/sudo. what did i do wrong I cannot even launch synaptic anyloger
[09:37] <nix_ferret> I don't know what they use for auth. They could use anything. I thought you just wanted the pass for a cox cable type account.
[09:37] <r_rehashed> i have been trying to re-install grub but have been unanble to. i keep getting messages like `Error 23: Error while parsing number' and `Error 11: Unrecognized device string' for the commands root (sd0, 5) and root (hd0, 5), respectively.
[09:37] <r_rehashed> please help me
[09:37] <Hirni> emun: did you create some root password?
[09:37] <linux_user400354> strange, nmap shows port 22 open but i cant get a login prompt from ssh
[09:38] <tigerflyer> how can i tell when i "identify" if it is actaully identifying me
[09:38] <violot> cge: Found it
[09:38] <Hirni> is anyone familiar with voip and using voipbuster with any program?
[09:38] <linux_user400354> firewall cant be blocking it or else nmap wouldnt show the port open
[09:38] <violot> Evolution passwords are stored in: ~/.gnome2_private/Evolution
[09:39] <zen2> it will set a new mode
[09:39] <nix_ferret> found your pass?
[09:39] <cge> violot: Ah, I remember that directory.
[09:39] <violot> nix_ferret, yes
[09:39] <nix_ferret> plain text?
[09:39] <emun> I  have a password to boot up ubuntu but when I  use it in the terminal it say sudo error
[09:39] <nix_ferret> I prefer thunderbird myself.
[09:40] <wiitard> man, how do compile a build?
[09:40] <cge> nix_ferret: .gnome2_private is 700
[09:40] <Gosha> "deb http://apt.tt-solutions.com/ubuntu/ edgy main" how would that be in ubuntu? instead of deb "apt-get"?
[09:40] <mdious> wiitard:  usually you just run ./configure then make then make install...or some fancy people do a make&&make install or something lol
[09:40] <nix_ferret> It's still in there plain text though.
[09:41] <cge> nix_ferret: Yes, but it is Evolution, one cannot have great expectations for it.
[09:41] <wiitard> MDIOUS, so do i have to go to the directory?
[09:42] <wolverine> I have a question about installation of Ubuntu 6.06 can anyone help me?
[09:42] <wiitard> I wish there was a gui way...
[09:42] <Terminus> !ask| wolverine
[09:42] <ubotu> wolverine: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:42] <cge> nix_ferret: Evolution is the email client that kept an experimental and barely-functional IMAP option in production builds, with no explanation or warning, for over a year and several major releases after the problem was noticed.
[09:42] <Terminus> !anyone| wolverine
[09:42] <ubotu> wolverine: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:42] <wolverine> I wante to know that what is minimum RAM required for Ubuntu 6.06
[09:43] <emun> hirni, I do not know whether i did something in smb4k  to mess things up , i was trying to set up samba to connect to windows network
[09:43] <cge> wolverine: What amount do you have?
[09:43] <mdious> wiitard:  yeah un-tar whatever it is you download, go into that directory and run ./configure
[09:43] <nix_ferret> I just didn't like it, no real technical reason.
[09:43] <Terminus> wolverine: tricky. depends on what you want to be able to do. it could probably run on 64mb if you don't run a GUI.
[09:43] <wolverine> cge: I have 256 MB DDR
[09:43] <mdious> wiitard:  i think ./configure --help will list options you have
[09:43] <wiitard> mdios it says bash no such file or directory.
[09:43] <Terminus> wolverine: that's enough to run a GUI. =)
[09:44] <wolverine> but i am not abale to install it
[09:44] <_linux> anyone know how to change a system from read only to read-write?
[09:44] <cge> wolverine: Use the alternate installation disc.
[09:45] <wolverine> when I boot with LIve CD it will go to desktop and then when I click on install icon it just show busy and then after some time system gets hanged
[09:45] <cge> _linux: Do you have a command line?
[09:45] <linux_user400354> _linux: umask
[09:45] <wolverine> I tried with 3 different CDs and 2 Different DVD ROms
[09:45] <emun> ubuntu is not allowing me to get into root, what do i do
[09:45] <_linux> cge: yes
[09:45] <wolverine> so I think there is not prob with CD or CD drive
[09:46] <wiitard> MDIOUS  when i type ./configure it says no such directory
[09:46] <cge> wolverine: You tried the alternate CD, the CD without a GUI and only a text-mode install?
[09:46] <linux_user400354> _linux: it depends on the filesystem, but you will have to umount it and then mount it again with the correct options
[09:46] <foo> Anyone know where I can get php5.2 from? I don't see it in  backports? I'm on dapper 6.06 server edition with a LAMP install.
[09:46] <cge> linux_user400354: That isn't true.
[09:46] <cge> _linux: Try mount -o remount,rw
[09:46] <foo> /w 43
[09:46] <mdious> wiitard:  what does the command 'pwd' bring up?
[09:46] <wolverine> no I have that live cds which Ubuntu ship for free
[09:46] <wiitard> noo
[09:46] <_linux> cge: that all?
[09:46] <wiitard> IT says invalid file or directory.
[09:46] <cge> _linux: Well, with the mount point after it.
[09:46] <_linux> ok
[09:47] <wolverine> cge: thats why I asked that 256mb ram is sufficient for GUI installation or not?
[09:47] <nix_ferret> Well, I've gotta meet up with this nigerian diplomat, l8r
[09:47] <cge> wolverine: It might not be, I'm not sure. I never use it.
[09:47] <tigerflyer> if i have a 60 gig hard drive... and i format it to ext3... is it normal for it to be 52 gigs free
[09:48] <linux_user400354> strange, i have a computer with sshd running but i cant ssh into it. a firewall isnt blocking it. i can see from nmap the port is opened.
[09:48] <wolverine> cge:cause I have separate 20GB HDD for it
[09:48] <linux_user400354> ssh just hangs
[09:48] <cge> wolverine: How experienced are you with Linux?
[09:48] <emun> help heeelp please, how do i get into root ,ubuntu does not allow me , what command can i use
[09:48] <missing_> tiger: yeah the unformatted size is diferent because it also need some kind of journaling to know here the files are in the drives
[09:49] <wolverine> cge: no this is my second time only first I installed mandriva 2006
[09:49] <tigerflyer> missing_, i know... but is 8 gigs right for ext3?
[09:49] <tigerflyer> i know some take less
[09:49] <tigerflyer> some take more
[09:49] <wolverine> cge: but I want to install now Ubuntu
[09:49] <cge> wolverine: Hmm... do you have a fast internet connection and a CD writer?
[09:49] <wiitard> Does Anyone know if a Intel wireless chipset is PRISM?
[09:49] <missing_> tiger: did u chekc to see what info fdisk gave u about the partition table?
[09:49] <cge> tigerflyer: Ext2 and 3 have space reserved for root.
[09:50] <wolverine> cge: I have a DVD writer but I have limited download limit for my internet connection
[09:50] <frogzoo> tigerflyer: completely normal - 5% is reserved for overhead, ext needs this for defragging
[09:50] <cge> tigerflyer: Also, do you mean 60 gebibytes or 60 gigabytes, and 52 gigabytes or 52 gebibytes?
[09:50] <tigerflyer> cge, its an external hd... its not bootable so does it have root?
[09:50] <tigerflyer> gigabytes*
[09:50] <tigerflyer> frogzoo, thanks
[09:50] <cge> tigerflyer: Errr, gibibytes, sorry.
[09:50] <missing_> tiger: some oems like dell and compaq like to hide theyre repair partiotions
[09:51] <Gosha> someone said ubuntu was debian cousin .. how come this wont work? --> "deb http://apt.tt-solutions.com/ubuntu/ edgy main"
[09:51] <wolverine> cge: any solution?
[09:51] <tigerflyer> missing_, hmmm ok... last ? for the night... whats the best fs to maximize space?... this drive is just for storage
[09:51] <cge> wolverine: Yes.
[09:51] <wolverine> what? cge
[09:52] <detectiveinspekt> I have changed my gf card from ati to a nvidia one, it no longer displays the gui, what is needed?
[09:52] <wolverine> cge: I have a DVD writer but I have limited download limit for my internet connection
[09:52] <cge> wolverine: But I'm not sure if I can lead you through it. You need to partition the disk manually, and then enable the swap partition.
[09:52] <tigerflyer> detectiveinspekt,   did u install the nvidia drivers?
[09:53] <cge> wolverine: Unless you are able to download 700 megabytes.
[09:53] <detectiveinspekt> no, I'm not sure what package I should be installing
[09:53] <wolverine> cge: no but CD is not going upto partiton stage its going only upto selecting country and then gets hanged
[09:53] <tigerflyer> remove all the ati shit
[09:53] <amigamia> i have a netgear wireless usb and it is not being detected by ubuntu...maybe i have to late of a version? i got this like at the first of the yea rthis box.
[09:53] <tigerflyer> and install the invidia drivers
[09:53] <missing_> tiger: u should check with sudo fdisk /dev/xxx and then then the p command?
[09:53] <cge> tigerflyer: You can set up ext3 to have a smaller restriction.
[09:53] <cge> missing_: That isn't relevant, this is about space in a single partition.
[09:54] <violot> YES SOLVE AMIGAMIA'S PROBLEM MY FRIEND HAS THAT PROBLEM! :P
[09:54] <cge> wolverine: I know, you need to do the partitioning in another way.
[09:54] <amigamia> chao violot!
[09:54] <tigerflyer> amigamia, r u sure ur usb card is supported?
[09:54] <violot> 'lo amigamia
[09:54] <wiitard> this stuf is hard... could some one remote connect and install this program for me.
[09:54] <wolverine> cge: but how? right now its entire single partition
[09:55] <cge> Could someone guide wolverine through manually partitioning with the 6.06 LiveCD?
[09:55] <n30n> !multiverse
[09:55] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[09:55] <wiitard> !hostap
[09:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hostap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:55] <n30n> !EasySource
[09:55] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:55] <wiitard> !install
[09:55] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[09:55] <IRCD_HELP_PLZ> any chance you might be of any assistance, im tryin to get hybrid IRCD going, i got eVERYTHING working,
[09:55] <emun> need help i get these errors when i try to enter root: su authentication error, or sudoers file : syntax error
[09:56] <amigamia> maybe i need to update the ubuntu version?
[09:56] <tigerflyer> emun, ubuntu doesnt use su
[09:56] <amigamia> they sent me this disc like around january :)
[09:56] <wiitard> HElp me install a tarball.
[09:56] <violot> emun: One sec, there is a link that fixes that
[09:56] <violot> Lemme find it
[09:56] <cge> wolverine: I don't remember very well - I haven't run Dapper since June, and always use cfdisk anyway. I think you can go to System/Administration/Discs or something of the sort. Either that or GParted might be on there.
[09:56] <petriborg> sigh so much always to do when installing new ubuntu
[09:56] <amigamia> brb
[09:56] <tigerflyer> violot, i thought u couldnt su with ubuntu?
[09:57] <violot> No, you have to just add a root password
[09:57] <wolverine> cge: k I'll try thanks for help
[09:57] <missing_> tiger: u can its sudo su
[09:57] <tigerflyer> what the crap?!?!?! i wasnt aware of that and ive been usuing ubuntu for a while... <shakes head> learn something new everyday
[09:57] <cge> wolverine: If you are comfortable with the terminal, you could also use cfdisk.
[09:57] <emun> tigerflyer, then i tried sudo -i and that failed
[09:57] <violot> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#head-6357ee1f3ec93078a7d7cbc2c627208117e9499d
[09:58] <missing_> tiger: jajaj i used to use sudo gnone-terminal before tha
[09:58] <wolverine> cge: no right now I am on win
[09:58] <violot> emun: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#head-6357ee1f3ec93078a7d7cbc2c627208117e9499d
[09:58] <cge> wolverine: Oh, then you could do the partitioning there.
[09:58] <cge> wolverine: If you know how to do that.
[09:58] <emun> violot, thanks
[09:58] <violot> No problem
[09:58] <tigerflyer> emun... did u try sudo su
[09:58] <tigerflyer> i just did it and it works
[09:58] <tigerflyer> wow... ims peeckless
[09:58] <petriborg> anyone know how to make that PC beep stop when you do auto-tab complete in a terminal
[09:58] <wolverine> cge: ok I know how to do partition but I think partition is not a problem
[09:59] <wiitard> Linux isnt my friend this stuff is too hard.
[09:59] <tigerflyer> petriborg, look in the sound preferences
[09:59] <wolverine> cge: its may be RAM which is I think not sufficeint
[09:59] <tigerflyer> i think thats how i made mine stop
[09:59] <n2diy> wiitard, so surrender to the dark side.
[09:59] <cge> wolverine: The idea is that it is filling up all of your RAM. So you can partition the drive manually so that you have a spare swap partition, and then use the mkswap and swapon commands in the liveCD to add the swap partition.
[09:59] <petriborg> tigerflyer: yeah i know its in there somewhere but my "pc speaker" is currently marked off but it is still beeping
[10:00] <wiitard> I dont even know how to install a tarball.
[10:00] <cge> petriborg: Use sudo rmmod pcspkr
[10:00] <wolverine> cge: anyway I'll search for minimum RAM requirement
[10:00] <wolverine> cge: k
[10:00] <wolverine> cge: I'll try
[10:00] <tigerflyer> petriborg, unplug ur pc speaker?
[10:00] <tigerflyer> haha
[10:00] <n2diy> wiitard, can you learn?
[10:00] <cge> tigerflyer: rmmod pcspkr is easier.
[10:00] <petriborg> tigerflyer: i mean the internal pc speaker
[10:01] <petriborg> this isn't a "speaker" but that little one that can go "beep" when you boot etc
[10:01] <tigerflyer> cge, i know... i wasnt being serious
[10:01] <cge> petriborg: Then use /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist to make sure that the pcspkr module is never loaded again.
[10:01] <Ganjadude> any chance you might be of any assistance, im tryin to get hybrid IRCD going, i got eVERYTHING working,
[10:01] <tigerflyer> petriborg, actually that noise does come from a tiny speaker inside... mine caught fire once
[10:02] <squid0> hi all. i've got 2 ubuntu machines (i'm asking here cause this relates to apt which is a debian invention TMK), and i need to upgrade both of them to the latest ubuntu release. however, i'll end up downloading many of the same files twice. is there some way that i can download only on the 1 box, and then somehow share them with the 2nd one, without foregoing the updating feature of using apt?
[10:02] <tigerflyer> filled my whole case with smoke... smelled like shit
[10:02] <petriborg> tigerflyer hah yeah a little tiny one in the case
[10:02] <cge> tigerflyer: I did that once with an IBook that had a tendency to make a horrible and extremely loud high-pitched squeal when coming out of sleep. I opened the case and cut the wires after it went off in a library.
[10:02] <squid0> *forget the parentheses...
[10:02] <tigerflyer> haha
[10:03] <juan>  im having x problems but have no idea what it is, all the autoconfigures are failing is this a good place to get help or is there anywhere better
[10:03] <cge> juan: If it isn't too obscure or complex, this is the best place.
[10:03] <Astrozombie> Can some one walk me through a Tarball install
[10:03] <cge> juan: If it is, then the ubuntu-users mailing list is probably the best place.
[10:04] <cge> juan: And if it is a problem like the problems I have, then you will have to solve them yourself and tell everyone how to fix it.
[10:04] <tigerflyer> is "lost+found" mandatory for a storage drive?
[10:04] <cge> tigerflyer: For ext2/ext3, yes.
[10:04] <tigerflyer> can i hide it?
[10:05] <thaz> Hi guys, if anyone would be nice and can answer me this simple question, is it possible to install a version of ubuntu on my computer, which uses a sata drive?
[10:05] <cge> tigerflyer: Not really, but why does that matter?
[10:05] <Astrozombie> any one can help me install HOSTAP?
[10:05] <juan> everytime i launch a program in a consol i get an unitialized input device error, however if i dont launch from console it runs fine what does it mean? and could it be messing with my auto config atempts
[10:05] <tigerflyer> thaz, yes
[10:05] <emun> hi i am getting error in the terminal window:  ...sudo ;parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 0
[10:05] <thaz> For AMD 64bit computing?
[10:06] <tigerflyer> i mean no
[10:06] <tigerflyer> sorry
[10:06] <tigerflyer> haha
[10:06] <thaz> meh
[10:06] <cge> emun: If you haven't set a root password then you are doomed, as you disobeyed the Commandment of Sudo: Only use visudo to edit sudoers.
[10:07] <cge> emun: More seriously, restart in single-user mode, and use visudo to edit /etc/sudoers back to a reasonable state. You might as well set a root password while doing so.
[10:08] <emun> cge, please help how do i remove this damnation please
[10:08] <mojojojo__> is it possible to limit bandwidth of update manager?
[10:08] <NightFire91> Free Hosting Doesn't come any better than this >> http://www.solarcombat.net/hosting.php
[10:08] <mojojojo__> i'm downlaoding edgy, but can't do a thing while updating
[10:09] <emun> how do i start in single user mode
[10:09] <violot> NightFire91, is that yours?
[10:09] <violot> I'd be interested
[10:09] <violot> :p
[10:09] <NightFire91> yes
[10:09] <NightFire91> :)
[10:09] <violot> Is that for real!?
[10:09] <cge> emun: Restart, and it should be an option in grub.
[10:09] <cge> emun: Probably as "recovery" or something.
[10:10] <Hit3k> anyone know anything that will convert cue/bin files to .mpeg?
[10:10] <petriborg> cge: i did the blacklist suggestion - thanks!
[10:10] <emun> cge, ok
[10:10] <cpk1> Hit3k: i think bchunk
[10:10] <cge> petriborg: That annoys me all the time.
[10:10] <Hit3k> cpk1, i couldnt get that to work
[10:10] <Hit3k> cpk1, it always returned .isos of 0mb
[10:10] <cpk1> Hit3k: why not? its pretty straightforward
[10:11] <cge> Hit3k: Use bchunk to convert it to an iso, then use mencoder or mplayer (I believe you want the latter) to convert it to mpeg.
[10:11] <petriborg> man is the edgy font defaults ugly
[10:11] <emun> cge, how do i use visudo to edit / etc/sudoers
[10:11] <cge> emun: Just run visudo.
[10:11] <cge> emun: Assuming you are root.
[10:12] <emun> ok cge  thanks i will try it bye for now
[10:12] <cge> emun: You want something like YOUR_USERNAME ALL=(ALL) ALL or %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[10:13] <cge> petriborg: It depends on the screen, I suppose. The default fonts looked nice on my 124 dpi screen when I was running Edgy.
[10:13] <juan> are there any howtos/guides for if my autocnigure keeps failing?
[10:13] <cpk1> you should be able to play it as an iso
[10:14] <cge> juan: If no one helps you here, the mailing list is probably the best place to ask.
[10:14] <juan> how do i join the mailing list?
[10:14] <Astrozombie> Anyone help me install hostap.
[10:15] <cge> juan: The forums might be better, actually, at ubuntuforums.org. But the mailing lists are at ubuntu.com/community/lists
[10:15] <juan> thx
[10:16] <Astrozombie> :'(
[10:17] <Hit3k> cpk1, after I mount the image do I just play it in mplayer?
[10:17] <magic_ninja> what up
[10:18] <Astrozombie> anyone alive
[10:18] <juan> thx i intend to sort that problem out there are there easy guides for either of the following tho? not having admin privilages when i login and setting up a webcam that isnt detected
[10:19] <cpk1> Hit3k: good question, lucky for you I found a video in bin cue format so i can test it
[10:21] <petriborg> sometimes waiting for stuff to download just sucks
[10:23] <alienseer23> hello, I just reinstalled edgy, and things aren't going so well
[10:23] <petriborg> sadness
[10:23] <chrissturm> i want to do a software raid. what features will lvm bring me?
[10:24] <squid0> alienseer23: i'm upgrading to edgy at the moment. what problems have you got (just curious)
[10:24] <squid0> ?
[10:24] <alienseer23> first...no sound with my creative sb 24 bit live
[10:24] <Edulix> hi
[10:24] <Edulix> how can I play (without converting the file to mpg) a flv video?
[10:24] <alienseer23> can't seem to get the video quite right
[10:24] <Edulix> I think there was a flvplayer or something like that
[10:25] <alienseer23> disks aren't shgowing up correctly
[10:25] <alienseer23> hard disks
[10:25] <petriborg> edulix i assume you tried VLC?
[10:25] <alienseer23> so far, that's abou tit, but for the hard drives, it lost ALOT of space somehow
[10:25] <georges> Hello
[10:25] <georges> i have one question!
[10:26] <alienseer23> I know my soundcard should work with alsa, it did in dapper
[10:26] <Edulix> petriborg: uhm
[10:26] <georges> Is any probleme when you add a card with serial ports
[10:26] <elkbuntu> ciplogic, what version of php are you trying to use?
[10:26] <ciplogic> I have ubuntu Feitsy, as update to the Edgy. My wanting is someone to help me enable PHP5 for Apache2, where both are installed. I know is not an edgy issue, but if someone know how to do it
[10:26] <tigerflyer> is there a way to check a hard drive for bad sectors... like if the head scratched the disk or not?
[10:27] <ciplogic> elkbuntu: PHP 5
[10:27] <georges> i need it, because i use an UPS with a serial control
[10:27] <elkbuntu> ciplogic, check that libapache2-mod-php5 is installed
[10:27] <georges> Someone could give me any information about configuration of this kind of cards?
[10:27] <ciplogic> elkbuntu: Yes, it is
[10:27] <Edulix> petriborg: yes it works! I had tried with kaffeine and the gnome video player and it didn't work but vlc works fine ;)
[10:28] <alienseer23> q: does ntfs work with edgy?
[10:28] <ciplogic> elkbuntu: it works until update to feitsy, the problem I think that is about registering PHP module to Apache
[10:28] <Atlas95> hello
[10:28] <georges> Somebody know something about serial cards??
[10:28] <cpk1> Hit3k: it looks like vlc and mplayer can both play isos so as soon as you have it to iso you should be able to play it fine
[10:28] <Atlas95> someone have the laptop "HP Compaq Nx9420" please?
[10:29] <cpk1> Hit3k: if you want to transcode it to something else mencoder is good but very confusing
[10:29] <Hit3k> thanks cpk1
[10:30] <Lynoure> Atlas95: I doubt they will give you theirs :) I have HP laptop in the NC82xx series, maybe I can help somehow?
[10:31] <Atlas95> not now but i want to know problem with their
[10:31] <violot> Anyone done fstab editing?
[10:31] <Atlas95> I will buy one ... the next week I think
[10:31] <Kabasa> happy
[10:31] <Atlas95> Lynoure: sound work? wireless? function key?all?
[10:31] <_linux> hi, im having fstab problmes, it would be a big help if someone would pastebin me theirs, so i can see what mine needs to be like
[10:32] <Lynoure> Atlas95: have you checked the Ubuntu laptop testing wiki yet?
[10:32] <Atlas95> yes
[10:32] <Atlas95> but it isn't in the list
[10:32] <Lynoure> Atlas95: and http://www.linux-laptop.net/ ?
[10:32] <Atlas95> yes
[10:33] <georges> is somebody know documaentation about multiserial ports cards?
[10:33] <Atlas95> and http://linlap.com/forum/index.php
[10:33] <Atlas95> but this site is empty lol
[10:34] <_linux> hi, im having fstab problmes, it would be a big help if someone would pastebin me theirs, so i can see what mine needs to be like
[10:34] <violot> Me too :P
[10:34] <Lynoure> Atlas95: mine works fine, but the hardware is no doubt different. You cannot buy it from a place that lets you try with livecd?
[10:34] <violot> I mounted my /dev/sdb1 at /media/harddisk2 with ext3 fs but don't know what to add for the rest
[10:35] <Atlas95> no :(
[10:35] <Atlas95> pcshop havn't it in france, near my house
[10:35] <Atlas95> I will buy it on the net
[10:35] <emacla> I'm an administrator, but when i tries to copy files to /usr/local/ it says i dont have permission!
[10:36] <petribor1> http://pastebin.com/845638
[10:36] <petribor1> violot and _linux there you go
[10:36] <Lynoure> Atlas95: Have you seen http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Gentoo_on_HP_Compaq_nx9420 ?
[10:36] <_linux> thank you!
[10:36] <emacla> I'm an administrator, but when i tries to copy files to /usr/local/ it says i dont have permission! Why?
[10:36] <violot> Thanks petribor1
[10:36] <violot> Did you change your name?
[10:36] <petribor1> now if only my ghost would die :(
[10:36] <petribor1> its a ghost violot
[10:36] <buz> for some reason it seems like it keeps hanging
[10:36] <Atlas95> yes but this in under gentoo and not complete
[10:37] <violot> a ghost?
[10:37] <Atlas95> bluetooth etc ...
[10:37] <petribor1> yeah i'm having a lot of random drops on my network right now
[10:37] <emacla> I'm an administrator, but when i tries to copy files to /usr/local/ it says i dont have permission! Why?
[10:37] <petribor1> i probably need to restart the router or something or beat comcast techs into submission again
[10:37] <buz> emacla: obviously you arent root
[10:37] <n2diy> emacla: you aren't the admin, unless you in invoke sudo.
[10:37] <Atlas95> I have allready use gentoo but now I don't want to lose time with building...
[10:37] <Lynoure> Atlas95: and http://developer.novell.com/yes/83624.htm says it is verified to work with Suse, so not the worst possible hw for Ubuntu either
[10:37] <violot> Do I need any options/stuff for a regular extra hard drive holding data?
[10:37] <Kabasa> Hi every body!!!
[10:37] <violot> 'Lo
[10:38] <emacla> n2diy: What's this sudo thing. This is my second day on linux...
[10:38] <petribor1> violot, i have examples of that there
[10:38] <Lynoure> Atlas95: yes, yes, but I meant that if it would not work with Suse or with Gentoo, not that much hope with Ubuntu
[10:38] <petribor1> http://pastebin.com/845638
[10:38] <violot> petribor1, which one?
[10:38] <Atlas95> Ok so all is working? Lynoure I hav't understand your last sentences
[10:38] <petribor1> the ones saying "mounting the other drives"
[10:38] <Atlas95> (sorry for english lol)
[10:38] <Atlas95> you say this is working or not working so?
[10:38] <violot> Should I put this: "errors=remount-ro"  What's it do?
[10:39] <n2diy> emacla: "sudo cp (filename)
[10:39] <n2diy> emacla: "sudo cp (filename)"
[10:39] <petribor1> violot - if you have a problem during boot where the drive cannot be mounted as read/write it will mount it as read-only
[10:39] <petribor1> so you can still get at the data
[10:39] <violot> I guess I want that
[10:39] <violot> And what is dump/pass?
[10:39] <Lynoure> Atlas95: you see for yourself from those links. I meant that if you see something that does not work with Suse or Gentoo, that's a red flag for Ubuntu too.
[10:40] <Atlas95> ha ok :) Lynoure
[10:40] <n2diy> emacla: man sudo.
[10:40] <emacla> n2diy: I want to copy a file from /home/emacla/Software/RARLinux/ to /usr/local. How do i do that?
[10:40] <alienseer23> noob question: how do I know which kernel version I need, is generic good enough, or should I switch?
[10:40] <Atlas95> but all seems working so, green flag :)
[10:40] <foo> Anyone know where I can get php5.2 from? I don't see it in   backports? I'm on dapper 6.06 server edition with a LAMP install.
[10:40] <violot> petribor1: And what is dump/pass?
[10:40] <petribor1> violot dump should always be 0 unless you know why, pass tells mount when to do things, you're root should *always* be 1
[10:41] <petribor1> sorry i was typing violot
[10:41] <Atlas95> thanks Lynoure
[10:41] <violot> no problem
[10:41] <Lynoure> Atlas95: there was something in the latter page about audio and headphone jack
[10:41] <petribor1> violot - secondary data drives should be 2 or higher
[10:41] <n2diy> emacla: sudo cp xxxxx......
[10:41] <violot> Okay, so I'll put it as 2
[10:41] <emacla> sudo cp filename?
[10:41] <violot> petribor1, thanks :)
[10:41] <petribor1> sure
[10:41] <harry> is there like a "BUZZ!!" in gaim just like in YMessenger? the '<ding>'
[10:42] <stefan_> hi
[10:42] <emacla> n2diy: sudo cp filename? How can i make the file come to /usr/local?
[10:42] <n2diy> emacla: sudo cp old.file new.file.
[10:42] <Atlas95> ho no :'(
[10:42] <violot> petribor1,  And if I want to remove a thing (iPod) I can just comment it out in fstab?
[10:42] <emacla> n2diy: Thanks!
[10:42] <stefan_> i installed a kdm theme. unfortunately there is a bad bug in it. i cant log on anyh
[10:43] <Atlas95> Lynoure: If the sound work only with the headphone jack, I have the same problem on my current laptop ! :'(
[10:43] <stefan_> more... how do i change it manually?
[10:43] <n2diy> emacla: nada
[10:44] <Yodude> hey can someone tell which is the best ubuntu version to get?
[10:44] <Yodude> is it 6.10 or 6.06?
[10:44] <Lynoure> Atlas95: Luckily laptop speakers do not have that good sound quality to start with.
[10:44] <petribor1> violot you don't put ipods in you're fstab
[10:44] <violot> Well, the how-to I read did :P
[10:44] <violot> If I don't use it, I can't just delete the entry though, right?
[10:44] <petribor1> violot can you please point it to me?
[10:45] <Yodude> help?
[10:45] <petribor1> violot yeah thats right, or put a "#" in front to comment it out
[10:45] <stefan_> anybody knows how to change kdm themes manually?
[10:45] <harry> is there like a "BUZZ!!" in gaim just like in YMessenger? the '<ding>'
[10:45] <violot> Okay, just making sure
[10:45] <violot> Thanks
[10:45] <petribor1> yodude - that would depend on what you want
[10:45] <violot> And I can remove it's folder where I mounted it to
[10:45] <Yodude> i want to run it on liveCD
[10:45] <Yodude> and i want the most stable and better one
[10:46] <Yodude> i hear 6.10 has got better features
[10:46] <Yodude> can you help me choose please?
[10:46] <petribor1> the more stable system is 6.06, but 6.10 does have better features
[10:46] <violot> 6.06 is more stable, but 6.10 has more features
[10:46] <petribor1> i used 6.06 for a long long time it works very well
[10:46] <violot> yeah
[10:46] <Yodude> like what?
[10:46] <stefan_> Yodude: depends on what u want to do...
[10:46] <violot> I was too slow XD  But too lazy to stop typing
[10:46] <Yodude> i want to surf the net, manage my D: hardrive
[10:47] <Yodude> enjoy a bug-free system
[10:47] <Yodude> and has a lot of programs
[10:47] <petribor1> those are all basic use 6.06 then
[10:47] <Yodude> ok
[10:47] <Yodude> 6.06 then
[10:47] <stefan_> Yodude: 6.06 is very stable.. but if u want to set up a beryl system take 6.10 ;-)
[10:47] <petribor1> if you want to play windows games or something use 6.10
[10:47] <Rageagainstthis> need some help with a setup of awn154 with ndiswrapper.  So far I have been able to install the drivers, but i dont think xubuntu detects the hardware.
[10:47] <Yodude> what do you mean  beryl system?
[10:47] <stefan_> Yodude: 3d
[10:47] <petribor1> beryl system is a set of updated 3d drivers
[10:48] <Yodude> well i'm not gonna use ubuntu for gaming
[10:48] <petribor1> then for sure use 6.06
[10:48] <petribor1> you'll be happy with it
[10:48] <Yodude> i just need it to run my nvidia geforce5200 to display itself
[10:48] <Yodude> that's all
[10:48] <n2diy> Yodude: Follow stefan_ advice, stay with 6.06, if you go for bleeding Edgy, you will bleed, stay with stable stuff.
[10:48] <petribor1> 6.06 should do that fine yodude
[10:48] <Yodude> i'm gonna use it for tasks that actually requie a *good* system lol
[10:49] <Yodude> i'll stick to 6.06 then
[10:49] <Yodude> thnx guys
[10:49] <stefan_> hm... nobodys got a clue how to change kdm themes manually?
[10:49] <Yodude> btw is ubuntu skinnable?
[10:49] <petribor1> i don't use kde sorry
[10:49] <petribor1> yes very yodude
[10:50] <Yodude> lol you got me there, i like looks pretty much, along with ease of use
[10:50] <Yodude> i'm gonna start downloading.... c u on linux!
[10:50] <kane77> Yodude, :D
[10:50] <kane77> Yodude, see you
[10:50] <Yodude> bye
[10:50] <Yodude> and thnx again
[10:51] <petribor1> >.<
[10:51] <Lynoure> stefan_: by manually you mean something else than through System settings?
[10:51] <petribor1> some people i swear
[10:51] <stefan_> Lynoure: yes.. by command line
[10:51] <solarcombat> Free Hosting Doesn't come any better than this >> http://www.solarcombat.net/hosting.php
[10:51] <Lynoure> stefan_: I'd be surprised if the kde-looks site did not have a howto on that
[10:51] <stefan_> Lynoure: cant logon anymore with kdm and cant use things like kdm_config or whatever...
[10:52] <Rob-West> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[10:52] <Rob-West> im getting this error for Kickservices for my IRCD
[10:53] <petribor1> rob-west you dont' have a compiler installed
[10:53] <petribor1> or so it would seem
[10:53] <stefan_> Lynoure: ill have a look.. problem is that i have to do everything in the command line..
[10:53] <Rob-West> how do i install it
[10:54] <petribor1> you can install all the compiler basics with "build-essential"
[10:54] <petribor1> rob-west - "build-essential" sorry
[10:54] <Lynoure> stefan_: I really cannot answer you without spending time to search it for you. And so far I do not even know what part of theme messed things up for you.
[10:54] <Rob-West> thanks
[10:55] <Lynoure> stefan_: you could also backup your settings and reconfigure kde (or maybe whole kubuntu-desktop)
[10:55] <stefan_> Lynoure: i just want to reset it to standard settings.
[10:55] <Captain_Haddock> I'm having trouble setting up samba on my box.. Can anybody help?
[10:55] <stefan_> Lynoure: sudo apt-get reconfigure kubuntu-desktop?
[10:56] <Captain_Haddock> When I visit smb://workgroup, I get a blank screen..
[10:56] <Captain_Haddock> and eventually a time-out message.
[10:56] <Lynoure> stefan_: almost
[10:56] <stefan_> Lynoure: but..
[10:56] <petribor1> Captain_Haddock: first what are you connecting, 2 linux or 1 linux and a win or what?
[10:56] <Lynoure> stefan_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kubuntu-desktop
[10:56] <Captain_Haddock> petribor1: 2 linux and 1 win atm.
[10:57] <Plinty> where can I set default programs for specific file types?
[10:57] <stefan_> Lynoure: ok.. thanks a lot
[10:57] <Lynoure> stefan_: but as that might flatten all your settings, do at least copy them somewhere.
[10:57] <petribor1> Captain_Haddock: can any of them see each other better or are they all in the same state
[10:57] <cstextiles> My Edubuntu 6.06  Installtion stops after "Setting up ltsp-server(0.87)" message
[10:57] <cstextiles> A blank screen comes and then nothing happens even when i m in the F4 windows
[10:58] <stefan_> Lynoure: i will
[10:58] <Captain_Haddock> petribor1: The suse box and my win box can access each other fine. My kubuntu box is the one having trouble.
[10:58] <violot> Home is Ringo, 2nd Drive is George, Local Network Storage Drive is John, my online Server space is Paul
[10:58] <petribor1> so windows is the server then
[10:58] <violot> I'm not odd 0_o
[10:58] <Naik0> Hello, i got my pc screen on my tv via the svideo cable. But the image is black and white? How can i fix that
[10:58] <violot> no.
[10:58] <violot> It runs CentOS
[10:58] <Captain_Haddock> petribor1: and I can access kubuntu from my windows box fine as well.
[10:59] <petribor1> oh i see
[10:59] <petribor1> how very odd
[10:59] <violot> I only had 3 HDs I had access to here, so I added my one that I pay for :P
[10:59] <petribor1> can you mount the smb drive and see it in the console?
[10:59] <violot> I couldn't leave out Paul
[10:59] <violot> Me/
[10:59] <violot> Me?
[10:59] <Naik0> Hello, i got my pc screen on my tv via the svideo cable. But the image is black and white? How can i fix that
[10:59] <violot> I can see it in Nautilus
[10:59] <cstextiles> My Edubuntu 6.06  Installtion stops after "Setting up ltsp-server(0.87)" message
[10:59] <cstextiles> A blank screen comes and then nothing happens even when i m in the F4 windows
[10:59] <Captain_Haddock> petribor1: the smb drive?
[11:00] <Captain_Haddock> petribor1: I can access all files from my windows box.. would that imply that it's mounted?
[11:00] <petriborg> that was funny
[11:00] <petriborg> ok i must go boot the router in the head
[11:00] <petriborg> offline for a bit
[11:00] <Captain_Haddock> ok
[11:00] <Captain_Haddock> cheers
[11:01] <stefan_> Lynoure: u know what... i worked simply with startx ;-)
[11:01] <cezeta> Hi all...   I would like to ask something about ubuntu server 6.06 and 6.10, the filst one will have LTS /(long time support), the 6.10 will be LTS too?
[11:01] <candyban> Hi guys
[11:01] <cezeta> ad what is long time suuport excacly :D
[11:02] <gilnim> good mornin'
[11:02] <cezeta> (we are migrating from debian to ubuntu, but we need help finding the rigth ubuntu version :D
[11:02] <dorel__> what is the ubuntu equivalent to x-window-system-dev on debian?
[11:02] <janga> cezeta, 3years desktop, 5 years the server
[11:03] <candyban> I would like to use a remote esd for playing my sounds. I have started the esd with -tcp -public -port <port>, but how do I configure my other box to use the remote esd ?
[11:03] <cezeta> janga: thanks you..  can you explaind mee if 6.10 will have same suuport?
[11:03] <cezeta> (sorry 4 my english)
[11:03] <violot> dorel__, lemme look real quick, I had to install this a little bit ago
[11:03] <violot> I might remember where I saw it
[11:04] <janga> cezeta, 6.10 is not LTS, i think its only two years
[11:04] <light_> please, your help is needed. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=325957
[11:04] <light_> janga, 18 months i think
[11:04] <cezeta> so, for produccion servers you choose 6.06 ?
[11:05] <viller> hi
[11:05] <viller> I can't start Ubuntu. I checked the partition through livecd and the /dev folder doesn't contain hdd, hda or hdc. How is that possible? WHat can I do?
[11:06] <janga> cezeta, yes
[11:06] <Acidictadpole> well, im probably not going to be able to help viller, but is hdb there?
[11:06] <slicky> how do i restore the whole gnome session.. just delete the .gnome dirs in my ~ ?
[11:06] <cezeta> janga: thanks you dude :)
[11:06] <Flannel> viller: did you check the liveCDs /dev? or the harddrive itself?  (When you use the liveCD, it doesn't mount your HDs filesystem 'in place')
[11:07] <janga> cezeta, ur welcome
[11:07] <Flannel> viller: er, nevermind.
[11:07] <cezeta> janga: another question.. jejeje I know its a hard question here..  but we are migrating from debian 3.01 to ubuntu 6.06..  what is your opinnion?
[11:07] <violot> Is ~/bin not in the path in Ubuntu?
[11:08] <violot> I can't execute files in ~/bin from anywhere else
[11:08] <chrissturm> after adding a user, how can i let the user use sudo?
[11:08] <violot> Anyways, I'm gonna try to restart to test that I got the fstab entry correct
[11:08] <janga> cezeta, i never did that, but i would backup home and etc and reinstall from scratch.
[11:09] <candyban> chrissturm: checkout the example in /usr/share/doc/sudo
[11:09] <curs0r> http://123pichosting.com/images/4502Screenshot-2.jpg <-- p1mpz0r3d
[11:09] <petriborg> chrissturm - you need to add them to the sudoers file in /etc
[11:09] <chrissturm> cant i just add the user to the wheel group?
[11:09] <petriborg> no
[11:09] <candyban> chrissturm: you can if you add the wheel group in the sudoers file (check the example)
[11:10] <kkfoxcc> hi all
[11:10] <dorel__> umm, what's /lib/modules/`uname -r`/Build is for?
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[11:10] <Lynoure> cezeta: Why migrate now, when the new Debian release is due really soon? You already know it will not fit you well? (I use both Debian and Ubuntu myself, for different uses)
[11:10] <cezeta> janga: the migration will be a fresh install...  but i was talking about the change..  what do you think about ubuntu vs debian..  you use ubuntu, its stable?
[11:11] <cafuego__> plus 6.06 is already old <heh>
[11:11] <janga> cezeta, yes it is. solid rock!
[11:11] <candyban> cezeta: We use debian for servers and ubuntu for workstations
[11:11] <holycow> candyban, same here
[11:11] <cezeta> no, migrating no..    the think itswe bougth 4 new servers...  and, we NEED to install something..  we use in other places debian 3.01, but we are going to install ubuntu 6.06 ...   (that the question, and i ask this becouse i want to read opinions)
[11:11] <Lynoure> cezeta: Debian on servers and ubuntu on workstations for me too.
[11:12] <violot> w00t
[11:12] <chrissturm> i use ubuntu for servers and osx for workstations
[11:12] <holycow> cezeta, when using ubuntu server you MUST understand ubuntu thought
[11:12] <holycow> cezeta, please REMEMBER ubuntu freezes off of DEBIAN UNSTABLE every 6 months
[11:12] <cafuego__> cezeta: Depends on what the servers are going to do, most of the small office ones I install are Debian 3.1 these days
[11:12] <holycow> cezeta, thats DEBIAN UNSTABLE
[11:12] <holycow> cezeta, i seriously doubt you trully want to run a server that freezes off of unstable
[11:12] <Flannel> holycow: no it doesn't.
[11:13] <holycow> ubuntu only officially supports an x amount of packages as well
[11:13] <kkfoxcc> hi all
[11:13] <holycow> so you won't get the debian quality controll accross the repository
[11:13] <candyban> holycow: LTS might be off unstable, but since they'll support for so long, you can consider it stable (with more recent packages)
[11:13] <holycow> cezeta, ubuntu server is a terrrible idea period.
[11:13] <holycow> candyban, no you can't
[11:13] <chrissturm> holycow: probably thats the reason that ubuntu is certified for example for db2 and debian isnt
[11:13] <cezeta> will have game servers installed on (we are a game server company)
[11:13] <holycow> because all of debians repo is quality controlled
[11:13] <light_> please, your help is needed. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=325957
[11:13] <Flannel> holycow: ubuntu does not freeze off of unstable every six months
[11:13] <holycow> ubuntu only qc's th eofficially supported packages
[11:13] <holycow> and your still running 'unstable' version anyway.
[11:14] <violot> Why is Alacarte so buggy and slow!?
[11:14] <holycow> Flannel, dude please.  stop saying dumb things.
[11:14] <cezeta> and what about debian 4?  when he come out?
[11:14] <Flannel> holycow: stop being wrong.
[11:14] <kkfoxcc> cedga run the windows game on linux
[11:14] <kane77> how do I synchronize time?
[11:14] <holycow> *sigh* your an idiot.  read the website
[11:14] <candyban> kane77: use ntp or ntpdate
[11:14] <n2diy> why is it called unstable?
[11:14] <holycow> cezeta, so basically that is your rough math for deciding whether or not to run ubuntu server.
[11:15] <n2diy> because it is "unstable".
[11:15] <chrissturm> holycow: making more noise wont make your point more valid
[11:15] <Lynoure> kane77: With what? NTP is usually the answer
[11:15] <candyban> n2diy: because the packages may change dramatically ... the api, versions, etc are not stable.
[11:15] <holycow> Flannel, stop messeging me.  ubuntu freezes off of debian unstable.  if you didn't know that i'm terribly sorry.
[11:15] <candyban> n2diy: it has nothing to do with the stability of the system
[11:15] <holycow> but that IS what ubuntu is.  like it or not.
[11:16] <cezeta> sorry, i dont want to stat a fight :) I jast want information:D
[11:16] <chrissturm> cezeta: use ubuntu on servers, a lot of people do it
[11:16] <Lynoure> cezeta: fights are not very common here, normally
[11:16] <holycow> cezeta, its not a fight :)  there is only one set of data, i was only hoping to outline the rough lay of the land
[11:16] <holycow> cezeta, we do get in a rut and start to believe things that are inacurate tho
[11:16] <holycow> cezeta, thats where people start to  not like others explaining they are wrong
[11:16] <cezeta> ok..  thanks all you people..
[11:16] <holycow> and that is normal and fine
[11:16] <holycow> :)
[11:16] <n2diy> candyban: roger that, no it doesn't it has to do with the stability of the OS, no?
[11:16] <holycow> hopefully it helps
[11:17] <Arcad3> what shall i use from repositori or what how to.i vant to restrict a user..
[11:17] <cezeta> we have 4 servers to install linux on...  we will use two debian and two ubuntu..
[11:17] <candyban> cezeta: use whatever you are most familiar with on the server end. You are more likely to keep a windows server more secure if you know what you're doing ...
[11:17] <Lynoure> cezeta: Sounds like a bad idea!
[11:17] <cezeta> and I will have my own opinion, but..  IIts instresting to reed you guys
[11:17] <chrissturm> cezeta: just use ubuntu. you can even buy support for it if you need to
[11:18] <Lynoure> cezeta: It reduces work to have systems set as same as possible.
[11:18] <cezeta> Lynoure you say me to install ONE of them and die gith that?
[11:18] <candyban> n2diy: debian unstable COULD become less reliable because there are more changes, ...
[11:18] <Lynoure> cezeta: Assuming they are for production use and not for playing around.
[11:18] <Bhaskar> holycov , redhat and ubunto are in my system but while installing ubuntu, redhat is not appear while booting why?
[11:18] <cezeta> ok..  Its its better to have ONE i think I will use ubuntu 6.06
[11:19] <cezeta> Lynoure itx no a real produccion.. Its for game server....  so its no  SO CRITICAL.
[11:19] <violot> Why is emacs+gtk so unstable now!?
[11:19] <n2diy> candyban: Debiian? I'm not worriied about Debian, I ditched Debiian for Ubuntu. :)
[11:19] <candyban> n2diy: workstation side or server side?
[11:20] <Lynoure> cezeta: If you have time and resources, and want to experiment, take two aside, one for Debian, one  for Ubuntu, and see which you like best :)
[11:20] <kane77> ntpdate says no servers can be used...
[11:20] <Flannel> kane77: you have to give it a server, ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com
[11:20] <cezeta> ok guys...   thanks for everything.
[11:20] <Arcad3> is there something in the repositories that can hel me restrict the way i want an user?
[11:20] <n2diy> candyban: Workstation, I'm not playing with servers here, just a SOHO
[11:20] <Lynoure> cezeta: I know some companies where game servers _are_ the production :)
[11:21] <holycow> cezeta, also go in #debian
[11:21] <holycow> and get their opinion too
[11:21] <viller> I can't start Ubuntu. I don't have hda, hdd, hdc in /dev
[11:21] <viller> what should I do?
[11:21] <holycow> ubuntu simply shouldn't be run as a server :)
[11:21] <holycow> people here beg to differ of course but most don't actually run production servers :)
[11:21] <candyban> n2diy: then ubuntu is more than fine.  :)
[11:21] <rob> ubuntu can be run as a server :D
[11:21] <kane77> Flannel, thanx...
[11:21] <ciplogic> viller: you have sda, sdb,e tc.
[11:21] <candyban> rob: so can windows :p
[11:21] <Arcad3> i run 6.06 as a server
[11:22] <cezeta> Arcad3 what you run on it?
[11:22] <viller> ciplogic: what will I do with those if I have a hdd?
[11:22] <cezeta> its stable for you?
[11:22] <Arcad3> verlihub shoutcst
[11:22] <rob> candyban: I do, at work :D
[11:22] <Arcad3> ...
[11:22] <n2diy> candyban: Very fine. :)
[11:22] <viller> ciplogic: they're for scsi drives
[11:22] <cafuego__> holycow: There's no problem with running it as a server at all. See, you can get PAID support from the manufacturer.
[11:22] <ciplogic> viller: SATA + new Ubuntu releases change the hda with sda
[11:22] <viller> should I reinstall Ubuntu AGAIN?
[11:22] <ciplogic> ciplogic: feisty is one of them
[11:23] <viller> ciplogic: change hda with sda?
[11:23] <viller> replace hda with sda?
[11:23] <ciplogic> viller: you may do next things: (but will take more time than reinstallling)
[11:23] <ciplogic> viller: at boot switch the grub command line
[11:23] <viller> ok
[11:23] <ciplogic> viller: 2nd: edit /etc/fstab to match your partitions
[11:24] <holycow> cafuego, we will agree to disagree for the most part, i will agree with you on the core set of apps that are officially supported.  if ones services are dependent ONLY on those absolutely.
[11:24] <ciplogic> if you have important data or settings: yes you should do the change
[11:24] <__osh__> Seeing that I could/can install ubuntu as a server, are there any server tools for me to use? Ncurses-based setups for printers and similar devices?
[11:24] <Rageagainstthis> i have installed wireless drivers for a airnet awn154 card.  Ndiswrapper shows the driver and hardware present but none of the indicators on the card light up.  CAnt' figure out what how to solve this problem.
[11:24] <petriborg> omg so much better
[11:24] <ciplogic> viller: elsewhere for me the installing take around a 15 minutes, much more than to face the changes of every file
[11:24] <petriborg> its so much nicer when you get the damn hardware going
[11:24] <ciplogic> viller: *much less
[11:25] <viller> ciplogic: but how will I know what /dev/file is my harddrive?
[11:25] <cafuego__> holycow: thing is, a lot of companies aren't interested in "you get get support via mailing lists or on irc". Debian is good, and if you have a sysadmin with half a brain it's not an issue, but sometimes corporate policy just doesn't allow the use of Debian, thus Redhat & Ubuntu.
[11:25] <Arcad3> is there a way to install php* on ubuntu?
[11:25] <holycow> cafuego, i run support for a few of those
[11:25] <ciplogic> viller: run fstab /dev/sda
[11:25] <Flannel> Arcad3: php5 and php4, on current versions
[11:25] <holycow> cafuego, its not so cut and dry
[11:25] <ciplogic> viller: secondly press P (cames from print)
[11:26] <ciplogic> viller: it display a list with all partitions
[11:26] <Arcad3> k thanks
[11:26] <cafuego__> holycow: Kinda is down here.
[11:26] <Flannel> !lamp | Arcad3
[11:26] <ubotu> Arcad3: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[11:26] <petriborg> violot did you're old dapper x config work in edgy too?
[11:26] <Arcad3> php* are the php modules
[11:26] <cafuego__> holycow: banks for instance don't run Debian in their production environment.
[11:26] <ciplogic> viller: about / partition is enough the name of hda
[11:26] <holycow> cafuego, absolutely, i will agree with you there
[11:26] <holycow> cafuego, of course
[11:26] <holycow> cafuego, and thats really only beacuse ibm doesn' offer official suppot
[11:26] <cafuego__> holycow: But they'll happily run Redhat or Ubuntu
[11:27] <holycow> cafuego, but then my clients arent banks
[11:27] <holycow> heh
[11:27] <Bhaskar> holycow: problem in redhat with ubuntu
[11:27] <ciplogic> viller: at boot of grub you have the list of booting OS, and you press e (cames from Edit) and you will go to the line you want to change, secondly you will see all the comamnd
[11:27] <ciplogic> viller: somewhere there is your partition
[11:27] <holycow> cafuego, they will run ubunut? wow.  bit of a revelation :) i wanna deal with a bank that runs ubuntu
[11:27] <holycow> heh
[11:27] <holycow> cafuego, i find the corporate environment a lot more porous
[11:27] <cafuego__> holycow: same goes for some ISPs, they won't run it in production if they can't get support from the vendor.
[11:28] <holycow> cafuego, its just that you can't walk in and magically swap servers over
[11:28] <viller> ciplogic: I'm on the livecd now. There's no command fstab
[11:28] <holycow> its about building long term relatioships and support and backing it up
[11:28] <habeeb> Anyone knows if PS works with Crossover perfectly? When I say perfectly, I mean no crashes and shit.
[11:28] <cafuego__> holycow: now small busienss are a whole different kettle-o-fish
[11:28] <holycow> we can pretty much insert debian almost anywhere we want
[11:28] <holycow> but yes  not banks
[11:28] <viller> ciplogic: how do I start grub CLI while booting?
[11:28] <petriborg> you know if you found a bank that used linux for all their terminals i think i would be there in a second, i know way to much about how those damn ATMs work and its scary
[11:28] <holycow> cafuego, i deal with medium sized businesses mostly.  small business doesn't have money
[11:28] <petriborg> unpatched window boxes ::shuder::
[11:28] <ciplogic> viller: which Ubuntu linux do you have: dapper or Edgy?
[11:28] <viller> edgy
[11:29] <holycow> large businesses are out of my league right now
[11:29] <viller> ciplogic: and there's no sda also
[11:29] <viller> ciplogic: only sdc
[11:29] <viller> ciplogic: sorry scd
[11:29] <holycow> cafuego, i'm really and trully surprised no one has put together a company to support debian on servers tho
[11:29] <ciplogic> viller: does your hard drive is connected?
[11:29] <ciplogic> i mean as controller
[11:29] <viller> of course it is
[11:29] <hastesaver> How do I get Ubuntu to *not* clear /tmp on boot?
[11:30] <holycow> cafuego, absolutely there would be issues with release dates and such but for a server environment getting support for the entire repo or most of it anyway would be amazing
[11:30] <viller> the /dev folder is on that harddrive!
[11:30] <kaur> hi! my laptop's cpu temp is constantly about 49-50 C even when the laptop is not being heavily loaded. The fan starts to work when the temp reaches 50. That means that the fan starts almost all the time, blows untill cpu temp is about 48 and starts waiting for the next time:) Cpu being that hot is not actually normal or what?
[11:30] <ciplogic> viller: http://forum.ubuntu.ro
[11:30] <viller> nel, thanx...
[11:30] <ciplogic> viller: ls /dev/hda*
[11:30] <ciplogic> what shows to you?
[11:30] <cafuego__> hastesaver: Check /etc/init.d/bootclean
[11:30] <viller> ciplogic: lol I can't speak romanian
[11:31] <hastesaver> cafuego__, found it... but won't editing it break the next time I upgrade? :(
[11:31] <ciplogic> viller: (wrong cache at copy/paste :p )
[11:31] <cafuego__> hastesaver: nope
[11:31] <cafuego__> hastesaver: it will ask if you want tor epalce the file with a new one, and the default is 'N'.
[11:31] <freakytux> what will the system requirements be of feisty fawn?
[11:32] <cafuego__> freakytux: cpu, ram, power supply
[11:32] <holycow> freakytux, pretty much the same as for all things requiring linux kernels
[11:32] <holycow> not a whole lot
[11:32] <ciplogic> viller: are you registred at freenode?
[11:32] <holycow> you can get away with a pentium 700 and 512 megs ram or even 256
[11:32] <ciplogic> viller: to find where is the problem
[11:32] <cafuego__> storage would be nice but isn't essential :-)
[11:32] <Bhaskar> holcoy: running redhat and ubuntu while booting, just ubuntu only appears???
[11:32] <freakytux> oke, thanks
[11:32] <holycow> if you have a modern nvidia card you can even play with beryl and things like that if you want
[11:32] <viller> ciplogic: why should I be registered at freenode?
[11:32] <freakytux> don't really need beryl
[11:32] <viller> ciplogic: I am but still
[11:33] <flossgeek> holycow:Intel based graphic chips are better
[11:33] <ciplogic> viller: to not see here the output of commands :)
[11:33] <kaur> Those of you who are running ubuntu on dual core laptop, could you please tell me your cpu temp?
[11:33] <Bhaskar> holycow: running redhat and ubuntu while booting, just ubuntu only appears???
[11:33] <holycow> Bhaskar, depends on how you installed stuff ... make sure that you have an entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst for your redhat installation
[11:33] <holycow> Bhaskar, you may need to google the correct entry information
[11:33] <cafuego__> kaur: temp sensors not supported
[11:34] <kaur> cafuego_:ok
[11:34] <holycow> Bhaskar, as long as you have the proper entries in the file above, you will get an option to boot from the other os's on your system
[11:34] <viller> ciplogic: I think I'll just reinstall that shitty Ubuntu
[11:34] <petriborg> i wish the temp readings worked but they don't :(
[11:34] <holycow> Bhaskar, is that what you were looking for?
[11:34] <cafuego__> flossgeek: intel based graphics chips don't work right
[11:34] <holycow> flossgeek, actually no, i meant a real nvidia card with gobs of onboard ram and latest gpu are really tops
[11:34] <flossgeek> cafuego: I have no issues
[11:34] <ciplogic> viller: yes, Linux is all about options, next time make backup before updates
[11:34] <holycow> flossgeek, intel is better for their open sourcing some of their drivers i guess
[11:34] <cafuego__> flossgeek: try running google earth or secondlife
[11:34] <holycow> flossgeek, i meant performance wise anyway :)
[11:35] <flossgeek> holycow:exactly and runs out of box for aiglx
[11:35] <ciplogic> viller: feisty will force you to change names to sda from hda
[11:35] <holycow> flossgeek, correct, i'm actually going to be standardizing on them too
[11:35] <cafuego__> flossgeek: google earth here only zooms 1/4 of the screen anfdd secondlife just crashes X altogether
[11:35] <viller> ciplogic: it has nothing to do with updates
[11:35] <holycow> flossgeek, i trully trully want to support amd but i cannot stand the chipsets those mobos ship with any more
[11:35] <flossgeek> cafuego: there are fixes for that
[11:35] <kaur> is there a channel for laptop support?
[11:35] <gnomefreak> ciplogic: it shouldnt feisty should use UUID instead
[11:35] <ciplogic> gnomefreak: what it is the solution for partitions that are not found?
[11:36] <cafuego__> flossgeek: Spending $100 on an nvidia card was more economic :-)
[11:36] <ciplogic> gnomefreak: like legacy Windows partitions?
[11:36] <gnomefreak> ciplogic: for feisty help join #ubuntu+1
[11:37] <holycow> *hmm*
[11:37] <flossgeek> cafuego: sure i have a machine with a nvidia card as well, but been ticked off with the security flaws and the fact that they are igronant to open source
[11:37] <holycow> i never was a huge fan of replacing metacity with something like beryl but i think i'm sold
[11:37] <hastesaver> cafuego__, ok, thanks. I needed this because I've lost stuff a couple of times because of a power cut (they're frequent here, and my UPS is useless)
[11:37] <flossgeek> just remember people that AIGLX and XGL are experimental right now there will be bugs
[11:37] <cafuego__> flossgeek: Yeah, there was a time when I cared it wasn't open, but these days I'm much more interested in just having stuff work.
[11:38] <holycow> what flossgeek said is correct
[11:38] <holycow> its PRE PRE alpha
[11:38] <flossgeek> cafuego: yes, but my experience with the intel chip is beter out of box less work to set up
[11:38] <holycow> beryl crashes this box all the time, not recommended for anything but testing and toying around
[11:38] <kaur> Is there any reasonable explenation why my laptop's cpu temp sometimes doesn't go higher than about 43-46 C and sometimes it rises to about 49-50 and doesn't get lower?
[11:38] <Gosha> !wxwidgets
[11:39] <holycow> flossgeek, my only thing with intel is that one arm of their company will play nice and open source stuff
[11:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wxwidgets - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:39] <cafuego__> flossgeek: I'll reconsider them if and when theyd ecide to ship mobos with DVI connectors, but not sooner.
[11:39] <holycow> flossgeek, but overall the company is still not really talking to the gnu commuinty
[11:39] <holycow> and refuse to help out with apis and documentation and stuff
[11:39] <flossgeek> holycow: which company
[11:39] <holycow> intel
[11:40] <p0l> n0=23-net: Random serverSERVER:irc.23-net.org:6667GROUP:23-net
[11:40] <flossgeek> holycow:maybe not but the have released there drivers as open source isnt that a step foward
[11:40] <holycow> flossgeek, absolutely i will give them that
[11:42] <PrimeHex|Games> rawr
[11:42] <kane77> does xubuntu come with open office on the cd??
[11:43] <holycow> PrimeHex|Games, heh
[11:43] <kkfoxcc> ddddddd
[11:43] <PrimeHex|Games> holycow: viva pinata is effing sweet, who whould've thought FARMING PINATAs would be fun?
[11:43] <PrimeHex|Games> lol
[11:44] <holycow> i will never know
[11:44] <holycow> i cannot stand the thought of giving bill gates a single penny
[11:44] <holycow> :) but it sounds devilish
[11:44] <flossgeek> how come microsoft get all stick aint apple just as bad
[11:45] <holycow> apple is worse infact
[11:45] <flossgeek> exactly
[11:45] <gnomefreak> kkfoxcc: xubuntu install should have OO.o on it but i dont remember for sure
[11:45] <diskus> I don't seen anything bad in microsoft or apple, they are just doing money
[11:45] <diskus> business
[11:45] <holycow> but they are small enough not to have a huge effect on the market
[11:45] <holycow> so sticking apple is like poking a dead horse with a stick
[11:45] <holycow> it twitches but its not a lot of fun :)
[11:45] <Lathiat> holycow: how is apple 'worse'?
[11:46] <holycow> Lathiat, heh i will leave my rant for offtopic chan :)
[11:46] <flossgeek> isnt JObs being investigated with fraud
[11:46] <holycow> i don't know i don't pay any attention to that company
[11:47] <flossgeek> diskus: yes it is a business and so is open source a business model dont forget that, but microsoft have been very dirty with there tactics.
[11:47] <Arcad3> how can i run something at a PID defined by me?
[11:47] <holycow> diskus, no one TRULY hates ms intrinsically.  its a company full of some very very smart and talented people
[11:48] <Arcad3> i,m trying to run 2 instances of verlihub
[11:48] <holycow> diskus, infact most ms employees are really good people.  delusional but good.
[11:48] <holycow> diskus, the problem is ms business history.  they do everything they can to stab you in the back
[11:48] <holycow> diskus, the open source model is collaborative competition.  if you win we all win kind of thing.
[11:48] <flossgeek> and then theres open standards
[11:48] <holycow> diskus, the ms approach is ms only wins at the expense of everyone else.  kill, steal and cheat wherever you can.
[11:49] <violot> I'm guessing I'll at least want 2 hours of sleep :|
[11:49] <holycow> diskus, and as flossgeek said, then there are open standards
[11:49] <Arcad3> no one knows?
[11:49] <Yasumoto> flossgeek: and then there are no standards =/
[11:49] <flossgeek> absolutely
[11:49] <holycow> Arcad3, just so someone answers, i have no idea what that is :) i'm sorry i cannot help
[11:49] <ciplogic> Arcad3: PID incrementaly increase at a new process
[11:49] <holycow> Yasumoto, its getting better tho
[11:49] <Arcad3> not for this one...
[11:50] <holycow> look at this channel and how strong it is? debian is getting stronger all the time
[11:50] <Arcad3> i use diferent users
[11:50] <holycow> some day the benefits of collaborative competition will spread beyond our little corner of the universe
[11:52] <n2diy> holycow: our little corner? Linux/Unix runs the Web!
[11:52] <holycow> n2diy, :) indeedy
[11:52] <zen2> does ubuntu come with a pre configured firewall
[11:53] <flossgeek> zen2: yes iptables
[11:53] <zen2> is there a simple way to disable it
[11:53] <flossgeek> zen2:built into kernel and all ports are closed by default
[11:53] <holycow> you can use a frontend like firestarter to  modify the settings
[11:53] <flossgeek> zen2: you could add firestarter a GUI for iptables
[11:54] <holycow> i'll just let you talk flossgeek
[11:54] <holycow> :()
[11:54] <zen2> i have 2 routers before it and i just dont need it
[11:54] <holycow> :) you don't actually give wrong info
[11:54] <holycow> hehe
[11:54] <holycow> zen2, oh you don't have a choice dude
[11:54] <holycow> zen2, also frankly stop thinking windows
[11:54] <holycow> it doesn't work like that here
[11:54] <zen2> ok
[11:54] <Zoss0> Lol
[11:54] <zen2> ahhh
[11:54] <zen2> lol
[11:54] <rickympl> hi, i'm using mercury messenger and have it load up at startup, however it doesnt load the system tray this way, but if i stat it from terminal or from the menu it loads the system tray, any thoughts?
[11:54] <Zoss0> Linux > Windows anyday.
[11:54] <zen2> yeah i agree
[11:55] <zen2> i been ubuntu for over 4 months now
[11:55] <n2diy> flossgeek: if it does that, how can we be talking, we shouldn't 'see' each other.
[11:55] <zen2> i have nad no hassles
[11:55] <holycow> zen2, basically you won't have any real needs to modify iptables unless you really want to start locking everything down .... its transparent for pretty much everything
[11:55] <holycow> zen2, what you want to do is worry about task specific things ... say x doesn't work, what do we need to modify to get it to run
[11:55] <holycow> that kind of thing
[11:56] <zen2> but im haveing hassles with irc so i was trying to disable it or remove it or whatever to see wether its the firewall
[11:56] <emun> cannot get into root from terninal get error in the /etc/sudoers file , do not know what to do, could not log on as single user as suggested by cge on this server
[11:56] <holycow> zen2, that isn't because of iptables
[11:56] <holycow> i can assure you of that
[11:56] <compengi> does any one know a linux program that allows network applications that do not support working through proxy servers/socks
[11:56] <holycow> if you are havving hassles with irc, its something elsewhere, client software, routers, etc.
[11:56] <Seveas> emun, for future reference: edit /etc/sudoers only with sudoedit. Dpn't edit with *any* other editor
[11:56] <zen2> yeah i was thinking that
[11:57] <n2diy> emun, try "su-"
[11:57] <hastesaver> Seveas, why? I always use visudo, and I thought it was recommended...
[11:58] <n2diy> correction, emun, try "su -"
[11:58] <zen2> nice firestarter is being apt-get now
[11:58] <Seveas> hastesaver, visudo == sudoedit :)
[11:58] <emun> seveas , can please tell me how to do this editing please , i am a newbie
[11:59] <Seveas> emun, what's the error you get?
[11:59] <hastesaver> Seveas, at least here, it doesn't seem so. visudo brings up an editor (vi, or whatever is set), but sudoedit looks like a command-line app
[12:00] <flossgeek> i always use vi
[12:00] <emun> sudo : parse error in sudoers
[12:00] <Seveas> hastesaver, I stand corrected - but they both check /etc/sudoers before saving
[12:00] <Seveas> emun, then you'll need to boot into single user mode (or boot with a livecd) and fix it
[12:00] <n2diy> emun, try "su -"
[12:01] <Seveas> n2diy, only works when a root pass is set, not the default on Ubuntu
[12:01] <Seveas> btw: american gov't wants to ban rootpasswords in favor of sudo :)
[12:01] <yemu> hi! is it possible to filter view in nautlius? for example to show only *.avi files?
[12:02] <n2diy> Sevaas, 10-4
[12:02] <zen2> how the hell can the us goverment think they have the right to ban a password based system it only leaves you open to hackers
[12:02] <n2diy> Seveas:  10-4
[12:02] <emun> i tried booting with my live ubuntu , but then how do i boot as single user , i get to the ubuntu desktop then what to do
[12:03] <willys_fueguino> hi. There is a command to know what programs are connecting to internet?
[12:03] <Seveas> willys_fueguino, sudo netstat -tp
[12:04] <n2diy> emun, open a terminal, and issue "init 1".
[12:04] <flossgeek> yemu: not that i know of but u can view by type
[12:04] <holycow> emun, ctrl / alt / f1?
[12:04] <hastesaver> yemu, knowing the GNOME "philosophy", I'm guessing it's not possible. If you are an advanced user who wants advanced features like that, you're expected to use the commandline or find some external app, GNOME won't help. :-)
[12:04] <willys_fueguino> thanx Seveas
[12:04] <Seveas> hastesaver, ;)
[12:05] <emun> su -  gives me an authentication failure
[12:05] <holycow> well you can just hit the 'typ' column label
[12:05] <Seveas> emun, boot from a live cd and join us again on IRC
[12:05] <holycow> that will sort the .avi at least withing the whole list
[12:05] <holycow> not exactly what you wanted but close
[12:06] <timmy> can someone tell me how da f*ck can I change my beryl/emerald theme ??
[12:06] <Seveas> !beryl | timmy
[12:06] <ubotu> timmy: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[12:06] <rickympl> hi, i'm using mercury messenger and have it load up at startup, however it doesnt load the system tray this way, but if i stat it from terminal or from the menu it loads the system tray, any thoughts?
[12:07] <emun> seveas, i will do that in a moment
[12:07] <holycow> timmy, i know it can be frustrating, try to moderate your language please
[12:07] <timmy> sorry :)
[12:07] <holycow> we want grammas to feel comfy in here :)
[12:07] <holycow> its okay it happens
[12:07] <Seveas> beryl makes you do that :p
[12:07] <holycow> Seveas, lol
[12:08] <flossgeek> timmy: just go to emerald theme manager
[12:08] <timmy> yea I've done it but I can't change it there..
[12:08] <KDan> can you use the standard ubuntu install dvd to run a dvd-based system (without having to install anything on the host computer, except perhaps allocating some space on a hard drive)?
[12:08] <KDan> dvd/cd
[12:09] <holycow> timmy you can, except that all this beryl stuff is very very buggy
[12:09] <flossgeek> timmy: you can add new ones with import  button
[12:09] <holycow> timmy, sometimes it works sometimes it takes the system down
[12:09] <timmy> hmmm
[12:09] <timmy> I'll try.. I'll be in few moments..
[12:09] <holycow> its pre alpha software, its meant for people that want to play and test and help develop btw.  just so we are on the same level :)
[12:10] <KDan> i.e. is there a Live ubuntu on the desktop cd still?
[12:10] <Seveas> KDan, yes there is
[12:10] <flossgeek> KDAn:yes
[12:10] <KDan> cool, so i could show my father how ubuntu works and let him use it from there, withotu impact on his current setup, correct?
[12:10] <holycow> KDan, correct :)
[12:10] <hastesaver> Is it guaranteed that one of Compiz and Beryl will be in Feisty?
[12:10] <Seveas> as long as he don't click the install button, no harddrive is touched
[12:11] <yemu> hastesaver: i remember long ago when i used kde it was a feature like this :-)
[12:11] <holycow> hastesaver, no
[12:11] <Seveas> hastesaver, yes, but not the default WM
[12:11] <KDan> Seveas: cool, ok. thanks everyone!
[12:11] <zen2> 194.24.188.100
[12:11] <holycow> Seveas, oh really? decisio is already made? i thought it was under discussio nstill?
[12:11] <Seveas> holycow, actually they will probably both be in feisty :)
[12:11] <holycow> oh in the repos okay.
[12:11] <timmy> look I've got some themes in "emerald themer" but still can't use them.. :/
[12:11] <AlexC_> Hey, I have a Logitech Momo racing wheel which works perfectly with Ubuntu, but the Pedals don't work, how can I get them working?
[12:12] <holycow> timmy, wait a while, dist upgrade and eventually it will be fixed
[12:12] <holycow> timmy, file some bugs maybe?
[12:12] <Lorvija> lol... end of the world... google's down :P
[12:12] <AlexC_> Lorvija: working fine for me :P
[12:12] <holycow> Lorvija, only for you
[12:12] <holycow> :)
[12:12] <chrissturm> when installing postfix to serve mail, do i want "internet site" or "internet site with smarthost" ?
[12:12] <Lorvija> yep, thought so
[12:12] <Seveas> chrissturm, internet site
[12:12] <timmy> I guess I don't have any other choise.. :/ It still look awesome anyway
[12:13] <chrissturm> Seveas: what is smarthost?
[12:13] <timmy> choice*
[12:13] <Seveas> chrissturm, somethign you don't need ;)
[12:14] <conic> anyone know of a xchat plugin so i can se what nicks have used a host when it joins
[12:14] <chrissturm> Seveas: for what would i need it?
[12:14] <hastesaver> conic, try #xchat ?
[12:15] <goosfraba4u> guys, where is the style info configs (themes, borders, etc..) hiding in gnome2?
[12:16] <timmy> holycow: maybe I should try Compiz instead ?? ( I've got ATI card.. shouldn't be problem ? )
[12:16] <AlexC_> Hey, I have a Logitech Momo racing wheel which works perfectly with Ubuntu, but the Pedals don't work, how can I get them working?
[12:16] <holycow> timmy, ohhhhhh, ha
[12:16] <holycow> ati eh?
[12:16] <Half-Left> is there anyway to stop firefox wanting to install flash?
[12:16] <goosfraba4u> the Contols, Border, Icons --> where is the config?
[12:16] <holycow> timmy, i would just yank that and through it out :) with ati all bets are off
[12:16] <holycow> :)
[12:16] <AlexC_> I have ATI with XGL and Beryl works fine
[12:16] <Seveas> chrissturm, to use another mailserver as backup for outgoing mail
[12:16] <timmy> I've read somewhere that with ATI drivers Compiz is a bit buggy
[12:17] <Seveas> goosfraba4u, in the theme
[12:17] <chrissturm> Seveas: thanks, great. you are right, i dont want that .)
[12:17] <AlexC_> goosfraba4u: the controls are GTK and the window borders are Metacity
[12:17] <holycow> timmy, chances are tho that its not the card, thats a software thing.  nothing wrong with playing around with compiz.  give it a go sure, but i don't know how easy compiz is to use
[12:17] <AlexC_> goosfraba4u: you can get themes from gnome-look.org
[12:17] <holycow> beryl is nicely packaged and easy to add/remove
[12:18] <AlexC_> Anyone know how to get Pedals of a Steering wheel working in Ubuntu?
[12:18] <goosfraba4u> AlexC_: I've messed them up somehow and now looking for the config files themselves for Metacity (I'm unable to change it in Themes)
[12:18] <flossgeek> AlexC: You will have to google around for that I thinks
[12:18] <AlexC_> goosfraba4u: do you mean you can't change GTK theme, but Metacity still changes?
[12:19] <zen2> ok im curious what is a decent server to look for the ircd-hybrid support i need i am trying to set up a ircd server
[12:19] <goosfraba4u> AlexC_: you see, when I change the border in the Sys-Pref-Theme nothing happens for my user only. All other users can change the borders fine.
[12:20] <ubuntu> seveas, i am back sorry took so long had to install chat application as a reminder problem getting root error in sudoers
[12:20] <Seveas> ubuntu, ok, do you know how to mount a harddrive?
[12:20] <AlexC_> goosfraba4u: I had this problem a while ago but with GTK not changing, ok - there should be a file in your home folder called gtk2...hum, something. - it's a hidden file
[12:20] <Seveas> AlexC_, .gtkrc?
[12:21] <goosfraba4u> AlexC_:gtkrc-2.0
[12:21] <ubuntu> no but give me the instructions
[12:21] <AlexC_> yeah that's it, goosfraba4u
[12:21] <AlexC_> goosfraba4u: delete it, make a backup if you want
[12:21] <Seveas> ubuntu, enter this command in a terminal and paste the output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:21] <Seveas> sudo fdisk -l
[12:21] <PrimeHexy|Sleep> doh
[12:22] <PrimeHex|Sleep> gnite
[12:22] <goosfraba4u> AlexC_: thanks, lets see if this works. BRB
[12:22] <ubuntu> seveas , i was confused for a moment
[12:22] <Seveas> ubuntu, why that?
[12:23] <sanozuke> I got x-chat
[12:23] <sanozuke> and my connection to ptnet
[12:24] <sanozuke> doesn't stay connected
[12:24] <goosfraba4u> AlexC_: you're a genius :) Thanks a lot
[12:24] <AlexC_> goosfraba4u: you're welcome =)
[12:24] <sanozuke> it dropps
[12:24] <goosfraba4u> AlexC_: see ya
[12:24] <ubuntu> forgot my name is ubuntu now
[12:24] <Seveas> hehe
[12:24] <AlexC_> goosfraba4u: cya
[12:29] <ubuntu>  seveas  i have pasted the info on the site
[12:30] <Seveas> ubuntu, what's the url?
[12:31] <QwertyM> stupid doubt but what on my keyboard is the SUPER button ?
[12:31] <ubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39002/
[12:32] <ubuntu> seveas, did you see the url
[12:32] <Sh0Ck_filE> hi. one question - how can I run ubuntu dapper LTS in the safe video mode? selecting menu item don't work... :(
[12:32] <Seveas> ubuntu, yes, now do this in a terminal:
[12:33] <Seveas> sudo mkdir -p /mnt/rescue
[12:33] <ubuntu> seveas, ok
[12:33] <Seveas> sudo mount /dev/hde1 /mnt/rescue
[12:33] <Seveas> that should not give errors, if it does, tell me :)
[12:34] <vect0rx> i felt it pretty important to inform everyone in this channel that this is one of my favorite distros
[12:35] <holycow> vect0rx, the great thing about open source is sucking up can actually be done with genuine meaning
[12:35] <holycow> :)
[12:35] <holycow> hehe
[12:35] <vect0rx> not too many problems.. even themore obscure shit like WPA 802.11g has been coming along
[12:35] <vect0rx> hehe
[12:36] <vect0rx> well i have a usb hardware mpeg2 encoder that i know will not work ... not even with the majority of windows drivers bsides it's own vendors'
[12:36] <vect0rx> from reading the forum posts i almost want to try writinga driver though
[12:36] <Sh0Ck_filE> ubuntu suxxxx -_-
[12:37] <holycow> lets see how beryl handles ogl games on a dual moni setup :)
[12:37] <holycow> heh
[12:37] <vect0rx> xdmx is something ive been trying to get working with intermittent progression
[12:38] <vect0rx> actually a main reason i switched is because i managed to FUBAR gentoo hardcore
[12:38] <chrissturm> is there an apache 2.2 for edgy?
[12:39] <Seveas> vect0rx, you can do that with ubuntu as well ;)
[12:39] <vect0rx> dont know which one edgy is but 6.10+ does yeah
[12:39] <Seveas> !info apache2 edgy
[12:39] <vect0rx> seveas, excellent :)
[12:39] <chrissturm> how crazy is it to run feisty on a server?
[12:39] <ubotu> apache2: next generation, scalable, extendable web server. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.55-4ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 35 kB, installed size 80 kB
[12:39] <Seveas> chrissturm, insane
[12:39] <ubuntu> seveas, i did the sudo mount ..... command
[12:39] <chrissturm> thought so
[12:39] <vect0rx> i've already got the 3d working on two computers that took me a few days of breaking and unbreaking gwntoo
[12:40] <Seveas> ubuntu, and no errors?
[12:40] <vect0rx> so its subsidized
[12:40] <ubuntu> no
[12:40] <Seveas> ubuntu, great ;)
[12:40] <adaptr> chrissturm: experi-mental server or production server ?
[12:40] <Seveas> now do this and again paste the output on paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:40] <Seveas> sudo cat /mnt/rescue/etc/sudoers
[12:40] <ubuntu> ok
[12:40] <vect0rx> I actually want to xdmx up my cygwin server at work and wierd out the other engineers who thought their 3d virtual terminal swapping was the end-all
[12:41] <chrissturm> adaptr: i dont know when, but the server will run production stuff some day
[12:41] <adaptr> chrissturm: mental, then :)
[12:41] <KenSentMe> The built-in cardreader in my laptop works for SD cards, but when i insert a Memory Stick, nothing happens, although it should. Does anyone have an idea how to get ms working on my laptop?
[12:41] <chrissturm> adaptr: yeah, i agree
[12:42] <chrissturm> but I dont want to start compiling a lot of stuff from source on that server
[12:42] <adaptr> ~xdmx
[12:42] <adaptr> ?
[12:42] <chrissturm> because then i'd have to care about all security patches myself
[12:43] <adaptr> !xdmx
[12:43] <ubotu> xdmx: Distributed Multihead X server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1.1-0ubuntu12 (edgy), package size 733 kB, installed size 1628 kB
[12:44] <adaptr> vect0rx: I bet it's not nearly as l33t as my beryl 0.1.4
[12:44] <ThePub> I am unable to start a multihead xinerama session under xorg using the suggestions on the x.org web site and the xinerama howto.  anyone have experience with the setup?
[12:44] <ubuntu> done , see url , reminder my disk has suse istall in a second partition
[12:45] <ubuntu> sveas do you see the pasting
[12:46] <netdownload> Hi all, i have a problem with pairing with bluetooth
[12:48] <chrissturm> is there a frontend for subversion that can generate repositories?
[12:48] <ubuntu> did seveas quit
[12:48] <kjdx> buongiorno
[12:49] <kjdx> raga ma  vero 821 user
[12:49] <kjdx> 820
[12:49] <vect0rx> adaptr, sup wit beryl 0.1.4
[12:49] <kjdx> buongiorno
[12:49] <vect0rx> there as a strikingly similar 1980s movie about a kid with articifial intelligence
[12:49] <kjdx> raga perch non riesco ad installare superkaramba?
[12:51] <kjdx> avrei bisogno di due aiuti
[12:51] <POVaddct> !it
[12:51] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:51] <kjdx> ok
[12:51] <kjdx> join #ubuntu-it
[12:52] <SurgeX_> !Restrictedformats
[12:52] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:52] <netdownload> Hi all, i have a problem with pairing with bluetooth
[12:53] <POVaddct> kjdx: /join #ubuntu-it
[12:53] <netdownload> Anyone can help me?
[12:54] <kjdx> lol si ho dimenticato /
[12:54] <doskey> right i neeed some fucking help.
[12:54] <Nulzore> I have ubuntu installed, if i download the XFCE desktop enviroment, I can install that and it'll work right?
[12:54] <netdownload> Nulzore yes
[12:55] <Nulzore> cool thanks :)
[12:55] <doskey> i sent a realy long text via amsn to msn and now on the windows system it's lagging and the keyboard is typing whatever it wants
[12:55] <doskey> i sent a realy long text via amsn to msn and now on the windows system it's lagging and the keyboard is typing whatever it wants
[12:56] <doskey> sorry about that
[12:56] <doskey> but any help ??????
[12:56] <doskey> Please.
[12:56] <POVaddct> !patience
[12:56] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:56] <doskey> 0.0
[12:56] <un_operateur> doskey, all i can suggest is "avoid the long messages" and use SMS-style instead?? :)
[12:57] <POVaddct> doskey: i would help if i could. i dont use msn at all.
[12:57] <ubuntu> thanks to seveas anyway
[12:57] <doskey> well the person who's pc the windows system is is ringinging back in 10 mins because they think that i sent a virus :/
[12:57] <xyz> aha h
[12:57] <netdownload> Hi all, i have a problem with pairing with bluetooth
[12:57] <xyz> ok
[12:58] <xyz> make shure the pass keys are correst
[12:58] <xyz> correct*
[12:58] <Nulzore> for xfce http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=19869&package_id=131509&release_id=371171 do i need to downlaod all the 6 files?
[12:58] <POVaddct> Nulzore: you dont install xfce that way. you install it as a ubuntu package.
[12:59] <Nulzore> oh with synaptic?
[12:59] <POVaddct> Nulzore: yes
[12:59] <Nulzore> oh right. thanks :D
[12:59] <un_operateur> Nulzore, I think you install the xubuntu-desktop package
[12:59] <xyz> ;)Use synaptic
[12:59] <Nulzore> this is my first time using ubutun (or any linux distro) btw >_>
[12:59] <Nulzore> *ubuntu
[01:00] <un_operateur> Nulzore, welcome aboard :)
[01:00] <Nulzore> heh thanks
[01:00] <Nulzore> Once I get familiar with it, I think i'll put it on my main machine
[01:00] <POVaddct> un_operateur: well, xubuntu-desktop is much more than xfce
[01:00] <doskey> right i dont soppose since ubuntu found the I/O module of my ethernet card that i could find it inside ubuntu then use it to install debian ??????
[01:01] <christopherl> does apt-get keep a log file?
[01:01] <doskey> right i dont soppose since ubuntu found the I/O module of my ethernet card that i could find it inside ubuntu then use it to install debian ??????
[01:02] <doskey> christopher no need if you are root
[01:02] <un_operateur> POVaddct, sure, but beginner user .. there's a lot of gnome-packages common in both ubuntu and xubuntu
[01:02] <neuratix> anyone here who has expeirenced problems with ubuntu and the sony ericsson w810i phone?
[01:02] <neuratix> my files are corrupted
[01:02] <doskey>  right i dont soppose since ubuntu found the I/O module of my ethernet card that i could find it inside ubuntu then use it to install debian ??????
[01:02] <neuratix> when transfered to the phone
[01:02] <doskey> and where to find it as well ?
[01:02] <SurgeX> Your Card is corrupted?
[01:03] <doskey> My card ?
[01:03] <christopherl> doskey:I want to see packages, I installed last 7 days using apt-get
[01:03] <SurgeX> no
[01:03] <doskey> christepher there is no need to keep logs because you are the propieter of the machine with root
[01:04] <neuratix> SurgeX: were you talking about the memorycard in my phone?
[01:04] <SurgeX> yes
[01:04] <doskey>  right i dont soppose since ubuntu found the I/O module of my ethernet card that i could find it inside ubuntu then use it to install debian ??????
[01:04] <doskey> ;-(
[01:04] <YogSothoth> Hi
[01:04] <doskey> HELP
[01:04] <doskey> !help
[01:04] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:04] <doskey> !help I/O module
[01:04] <YogSothoth> I was trying to compile FFmpeg following these steps: http://rubyurl.com/mHm And I got "dpkg-buildpackage: Build dependencies/conflicts unsatisfied; aborting" when running  dpkg-buildpackage
[01:04] <neuratix> SurgeX: is it a common problem?
[01:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help I/O module - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:04] <YogSothoth> What's going on?
[01:05] <doskey>  right i dont soppose since ubuntu found the I/O module of my ethernet card that i could find it inside ubuntu then use it to install debian ??????
[01:05] <doskey> ;-(
[01:05] <christopherl> I want to see installed/removed packages last 7 days using apt-get, anyone?
[01:05] <SurgeX> no I got an micro Memory card it is fine
[01:05] <neuratix> SurgeX: some files end up being 0bytes while others mix themselves with other files
[01:05] <doskey> christepher dont be ignorant
[01:05] <un_operateur> doskey, please be patient, all those active in this channel will have read your question but arent answering because they know of no answer,.
[01:05] <un_operateur> doskey, once is enough ..
[01:05] <doskey> :/
[01:05] <christopherl> doskey:?
[01:05] <doskey> i said you dont have logs because you are root
[01:06] <christopherl> ok
[01:06] <doskey> well you are when you apt-get anyway
[01:07] <christopherl> doskey: but is there some otherway to search for previously installed/removed packages?
[01:07] <doskey> No
[01:07] <doskey> erm actually what machine you on ?
[01:07] <doskey> ubuntu ?
[01:07] <christopherl> ubuntu 6.10
[01:08] <luckyb57> for 64bit intel which one is prefered to be installed?
[01:08] <luckyb57> 64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop CD
[01:08] <luckyb57> or just PC (Intel x86) desktop CD
[01:08] <doskey> applications>add remove>show all previosly installed programs
[01:08] <doskey> i386
[01:09] <luckyb57> okay..
[01:09] <POVaddct> luckyb57: if you plan to use binary only things like flashplayer and some win32 codecs, you are better off with i386
[01:09] <doskey> ;( im gonna cry
[01:10] <luckyb57> why so POVaddct
[01:10] <doskey> christepher did you get that ?
[01:10] <luckyb57> I don't plan to use those...
[01:10] <POVaddct> luckyb57: because 32bit binary only software won't run on a 64bit kernel
[01:11] <doskey> you will need some windows codects if you are a first time linux user ......
[01:11] <doskey>  right i dont soppose since ubuntu found the I/O module of my ethernet card that i could find it inside ubuntu then use it to install debian ??????
[01:11] <hjmills> hi - where is the best place to go to learn mono?
[01:11] <POVaddct> doskey: btw, i dont understand your question
[01:11] <doskey> right then erm
[01:11] <POVaddct> doskey: what do you mean by "i/o module"?
[01:12] <un_operateur> christopherl,  maybe this is what you are looking for -- cat /var/log/dpkg.log | grep -i "install "
[01:13] <doskey> i tried to install debian but it wouldnt let me connect to9 the net because it needed the I/O module of the driver for my ethernet card. Ubuntu obviosly found it and is using it at this very moment. So if ubuntu has it it would be contained somewhere within the system if i find it i can install debian any idea's where to look ?
[01:13] <POVaddct> un_operateur: useless use of cat :)) grep -i "install " /var/log/dpkg.log will do the same
[01:13] <POVaddct> doskey: you mean kernel module
[01:13] <un_operateur> POVaddct, aye, i was just experimenting and then felt impulsive to paste :)
[01:14] <chrissturm> is upgrading from breezy to edgy supported and tested?
[01:14] <holycow> doskey, actually it wont work
[01:14] <doskey> erm no the I/O module of my ethernet card
[01:14] <holycow> doskey, debian and ubuntu kernels are different therefore the module wont work
[01:14] <doskey> holycow why wont it ?
[01:14] <cmweb> Does any one know if their is a gui based program maker like Game Maker (windows) for ubuntu?
[01:14] <holycow> for debian you will need to find the source and compile it
[01:14] <Seveas> chrissturm, it's not supported
[01:14] <Seveas> doskey, because the kernels are different
[01:14] <POVaddct> doskey: different kernel versions
[01:15] <doskey> oo well then so im pretty much fucked then :/
[01:15] <doskey> unless
[01:15] <Seveas> !language | doskey
[01:15] <ubotu> doskey: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:15] <LinTux> I have 2523 corrupt filenames in my trash and it will not allow me to empty the trash, how can I cure this?
[01:15] <holycow> doskey, although chances are debian actually has the firmware in one of their repost just not deployed onto a standard install.  you may need to just find the firmware and put it in the right place manually
[01:15] <kalikiana> Is there a way to launch MacOSX apps on linux?
[01:15] <un_operateur> doskey, whats make/model is your ethernet card?
[01:15] <doskey> webstar
[01:15] <POVaddct> doskey: which card is it? maybe it is simply not supported by the debian kernel. ubuntu has newer kernels than debian sarge.
[01:15] <doskey> erm
[01:16] <POVaddct> doskey: or which debian version do you want to install?
[01:16] <LinTux> I have 252 corrupt filenames in my trash and it will not allow me to empty the trash, how can I cure this?
[01:16] <Seveas> !repeat | LinTux
[01:16] <ubotu> LinTux: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[01:16] <doskey> i just wanted to install debiann itself im on ubuntu now ....
[01:16] <Seveas> Burkaya, behave please...
[01:16] <holycow> LinTux, open up .Trash folder from terminal and type rm -rf *
[01:16] <POVaddct> doskey: you need to know the chipset of the card. webstar is just the card manufacturer, chipset is what matters.
[01:17] <LinTux> Seveas, I have evan formatted the drive and they are still their
[01:17] <doskey> erm wait
[01:17] <holycow> LinTux, BE EXTREMELY CAREFUL YOU ARE IN THE RIGH TFOLDER.  THAT COMMAND WILL DELETE EVERYTHINTG.
[01:17] <un_operateur> doskey,  lspci at your terminal
[01:17] <holycow> i think shouting was warranted in that one case :)
[01:17] <Seveas> holycow, jeez, I'm deaf now :p
[01:17] <holycow> hehe :)
[01:17] <LinTux> ho do I get to Trash in terminal
[01:17] <Seveas> LinTux, cd ~/.Trash
[01:18] <doskey>  nVidia Corporation CK804 Ethernet Controller
[01:18] <doskey> :/
[01:18] <Seveas> ah, nforce
[01:18] <LinTux> Seveas it says no such file or directory
[01:18] <holycow> *ew* nforce
[01:18] <Seveas> sarge won't work with that doskey
[01:18] <Seveas> sid/etch may
[01:19] <doskey> i have geforce grapgin though
[01:19] <POVaddct> doskey: looks like that one needs the forcedeth driver. that driver is too old in debian sarge.
[01:19] <doskey> *graphix
[01:19] <holycow> doskey, you will need to waith for a 2.18 kernel or whatever version it is supported for you chipset
[01:19] <hmg4> LinTux: There is a tool to convert filenames called "convmv" that converts filenames between differnt encodings like UTF-8 and ISO-8857-1 if you get strange filenames often
[01:19] <holycow> chances are you have nforce4 or 5 chipset ... and those are only supported in the very latest kernels unless debian backported which i doubt
[01:19] <doskey> :|
[01:19] <reiki> ok I installed a new sata drive. Installed Edgy to it. Upgrading video driver and now I can't get X to start (again). This happened on my other Edgy install too and I can't remember what I did to fix it. Clues?
[01:19] <holycow> not your fault or linuxes, its nvidia, we haveto wait for them when using proprietary drivers
[01:20] <Seveas> reiki, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:20] <POVaddct> doskey: the linux kernel developers had to reverse engineer the nvidia ethernet card to write a driver, because f** nvidia refuses to give programming info.
[01:20] <LinTux> How do I get to trash in terminal
[01:20] <holycow> doskey, it will be cheaper and faster to buy a supported network card until your nforce is supported if thats an option maybe
[01:20] <reiki> Seveas, I did that with -phigh .... do it again without?
[01:20] <holycow> LinTux, Seveas told you dude
[01:20] <holycow> scroll up please ;)
[01:20] <cmweb> finaly, i can build my game
[01:20] <doskey> yeah i agree.
[01:20] <doskey> how old are you holycow ?
[01:20] <LinTux> I cannot get to it by that command?
[01:21] <holycow> roughly 28 billion years old
[01:21] <compengi> can i bypass .odt file pass?
[01:21] <holycow> give or take a few hours
[01:21] <doskey> rofl no come on seriusly
[01:21] <holycow> i am serious
[01:21] <holycow> all the matter that comprises my being is 28 billion years old
[01:21] <LinTux> Sorry Working Now
[01:21] <doskey> i just want to see what age group this channel is situated around
[01:21] <cmweb> jeez, i totaly lost trac of time, been up since 1o'clock yesterday afternoon
[01:22] <reiki> Seveas (or others) can I just rsync my very nicely working Edgy install from hda1 to sdb1 ?
[01:22] <holycow> well thats pretty much the age group of anyone ever alive or dead
[01:22] <holycow> the answer is 28 billion years old
[01:22] <holycow> my cat is also 28 billion years old btw
[01:22] <compengi> Seveas, can i bypass .odt file password?
[01:22] <doskey> actually humans have not been alive that long
[01:22] <holycow> although its kind of scary to think my shorts are 28 billion years old too
[01:22] <holycow> >_<
[01:22] <doskey> Rofl.
[01:22] <POVaddct> holycow: muhahaha
[01:23] <zoli2k> Is allowed to talk about scientific research related topic in this channel or I will be kicked.
[01:23] <zoli2k> ????
[01:23] <LinTux> Seveas: They still their m8
[01:23] <holycow> zoli2k, not kicked just gently pushed out :)
[01:23] <holycow> hehehe
[01:23] <reiki> back in  a few (hopefully)
[01:23] <holycow> zoli2k, you will be suggested to chat away in ubuntu-offtopic or somethin
[01:24] <LinTux> Seveas: I have even reinstalled and these files are still their.
[01:24] <emun> seveas, i see you are back i have to thank you  very much , i was almost giving up on ubuntu.
[01:24] <POVaddct> doskey: i see two options: 1. install ubuntu instead of debian (maybe ubuntu server), 2. install debian and build utils like gcc and make, use the ubuntu live cd to fetch newer kernel sources and compile a new kernel on debian.
[01:25] <holycow> POVaddct, thats pretty good advice
[01:25] <holycow> doskey, yeah you can use any distro to compile stuff for other kernel version
[01:25] <holycow> you need to know a little but tho but its googleable
[01:25] <doskey> well look's like im sticking with ubuntu then ....
[01:25] <doskey> erm
[01:25] <zoli2k> holycow: thx, I have specific problem, related to my research. and a Linux channel seems to be good place to contact with people who writes papers in computers science.
[01:26] <doskey> i did try to update my kernal on ubuntu but i was not having much luck.
[01:26] <holycow> zoli2k, well toss out a quick q and see if it generates anything.  don't do it more than once :)
[01:26] <flossgeek> zoli2k: whats you research issue?
[01:26] <POVaddct> doskey: kernal is c64 speak :) its called kernel
[01:27] <doskey> so only when i get comfortable to play around with the kernel i will try to compile onto debian.
[01:27] <mc2003> how do i start the bootloader administration tool?i try writing in terminal boot -admin but i get a "bash boot command not found":/ i also try write that in tty 1 an same results...when i write it in the bootloader at the startup (i press C for the command line) it says that the kernel must be loaded first :0...ty in advance 4 your time
[01:27] <holycow> doskey, totally, very sensible approach *nod*\
[01:27] <holycow> mc2003, try using sudo in front of the command
[01:29] <kbrooks> hello
[01:29] <zoli2k> flosgeek,holycow: Multi-agent simulations. I have a problem to publish the paper on the arxiv server. I hoped somebody in ubuntu community published something in this server ( focused on CS).
[01:29] <doskey> i have one more question i installed grub (unluckily) onto a windows partitioned hd   i think it's installed into the boot file in windows .. because it should install grub into a little 8mb partition (which it has not) so it's just the boot file on windows
[01:29] <POVaddct> doskey: compiling the kernel is kind of hard for the first few times (not the compiling itself but the decision what to include in the new kernel, make menuconfig). just make sure you have the stock ubuntu kernel as a fallback if the new one does not boot.
[01:29] <kbrooks> i have a question.
[01:29] <flossgeek> kbrooks: go for it
[01:29] <kbrooks> will my... lexmark all in one printer work in ubuntu?
[01:30] <doskey> kbrooks most definately
[01:30] <kbrooks> doskey, go on
[01:30] <flossgeek> kbrooks: whats the exact model name?
[01:30] <kbrooks> 2400 series
[01:30] <flossgeek> ill check for you
[01:30] <kbrooks> all right, link me
[01:30] <doskey> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ help please
[01:30] <POVaddct> doskey: no, grub does not affect any boot files of windows, just the mbr of the hard disk. the second stage of grub is located in the /boot/grub directory of the installed linux system.
[01:30] <zoli2k> kbrooks: I think printig ok.  but the scanner may be problematic.
[01:31] <JBLoudG20> any experience with a lenovo 3000n and ubuntu? I'm just wondering if they play well together
[01:31] <doskey> yes but it isnt on windows is it
[01:31] <doskey> shit
[01:31] <holycow> zoli2k, well worthy question, over my head.  no idea where to even begin on that.  one would of thought google would have a reference, i guess not.
[01:31] <PriceChild> !language | doskey
[01:31] <ubotu> doskey: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:31] <flossgeek> kbrooks: it isnt listed as a selection have you brought it yet
[01:31] <mrmist> I have a problem with thunderbird... when I click a URL, nothing happens....
[01:32] <POVaddct> doskey: you have to boot from the windows install cd, go to repair console (or whatever it is called) and invoke fixmbr. (all from memory, i dont use windows)
[01:32] <snid> anyone....... pdnsd -> uptest=query doesnt seem to always work when forcing a retest with "pdnsd-ctl server all retest"
[01:32] <zoli2k>  holycow, thx. and one more thx for the more friendly language than in the #gentoo channel.
[01:32] <tim167> I'm looking for a fast lightweight text-only browser, anyone ?
[01:32] <doskey> erm it is on windows and i opened partition majic and it's not inastalled as a seperate partition and how can i open /boot/grub on windows eh ?
[01:32] <holycow> zoli2k, we try to keep it granma friendly :)
[01:32] <holycow> hehe
[01:32] <Kioshen> tim167: w3m is pulled by default
[01:32] <holycow> (tm)
[01:33] <holycow> -_-
[01:33] <kbrooks> flossgeek, i have... lol. and this is a gift
[01:33] <kbrooks> for christmas
[01:33] <doskey> howay all tell your age please .....
[01:33] <kbrooks> i set it up on windows
[01:33] <tortho> Is there a easy way to downgrade packages to the latest ubuntu release 6.10... I have used some other repos, and it is not working well :-(
[01:33] <tim167> Kioshen: thanks
[01:33] <snid> mrmist: try setting your favorite browser as the default browser... that option should be in your browser settings
[01:33] <flossgeek> kbrooks:http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Lexmark-2400
[01:33] <kbrooks> doskey, you do realize that no one will ever tell their actual age?
[01:33] <zoli2k> holycow, my granma loves ubuntu
[01:33] <zoli2k> thx
[01:33] <holycow> zoli2k, no kiddin? right on bro :)
[01:34] <flossgeek> kbrooks: HP or epson are better for Linux
[01:34] <holycow> i would stay away from epson
[01:34] <holycow> however strangely
[01:34] <holycow> brother is veyr very well supported
[01:34] <mrmist> snid: default browser? Where do I set it? In Thunderbird ?
[01:34] <holycow> not only do they have redhat drivers, they have debian installers too
[01:34] <doskey> well im only 13
[01:34] <tortho> holycow: Epson stylus color CX6400 works perfect, even with scanning..
[01:35] <Kioshen> mrmist: System -> Preferences -> Default Applications
[01:35] <holycow> doskey, all cool, lots of time to learn
[01:35] <flossgeek> mrmist: System>Pref>Prefered apps
[01:35] <kbrooks> flossgeek, well, my HP is still on the desk now :-) behind me
[01:35] <holycow> doskey, welcome to ubuntu.  your showing a very very mature approach to learning the environment
[01:35] <snid> mrmist: no in firefox... its under edit, preferences and then theres a "check if firefox is a default browser" part and a button that says "check now"
[01:35] <snid> mrmist: what browser do you want to use?
[01:35] <kbrooks> flossgeek, luckily, i havent thrown it out
[01:35] <doskey> Thank you holy cow . it's ver muc apprecciated. :)
[01:35] <holycow> tortho, *nod* linxprinting.org even speaks raves about epson indeed.
[01:35] <doskey> *much
[01:35] <kbrooks> flossgeek, it works for me still though
[01:35] <emun> sudoers file: syntax error is back in terminal window after sudo su command
[01:36] <mrmist> snid: wee... it worked :D Feeling a bit like a noob now... hehe... thanks
[01:36] <zoli2k> holycow, my personal experience, that older people who use the computer for everyday problems (surfing, e-mail, multimedia) are fully satisfied with ubuntu.
[01:36] <snid> mrmist: no problem, i had the same issue last week and tried playing with "update-alternatives" but it didnt work
[01:36] <holycow> zoli2k, same here.  *nod* i refuse to run windows for older folks any more.  this is just the right wayh to do it.
[01:37] <mc2003> (holycow)well i put the pass an again bash:boot command not found :/
[01:37] <doskey> i would say that debian based distrobution's are quite user-friendly
[01:37] <snid> anyone....... pdnsd -> uptest=query doesnt seem to always work when forcing a retest with "pdnsd-ctl server all retest"
[01:37] <holycow> mc2003, which command?
[01:37] <mc2003> boot -admin
[01:37] <compengi> is it possible to access an odt file protected by a password?
[01:37] <mc2003> 6.06 LTS btw
[01:37] <holycow> mc2003, i've never seen that command.  what are you trying to do?
[01:37] <Kioshen> compengi: unless you know the password no that
[01:38] <Kioshen> compengi: the point
[01:38] <kbrooks> compengi, well, you can possibly unzip it and look for the content
[01:38] <emun> if i can not get into root do i need to give up on ubuntu , i am getting sick now with stuff , help somebody
[01:38] <kbrooks> Kioshen, i doubt it is even encrypted
[01:38] <kbrooks> emun.
[01:38] <mc2003> start the boot loader administration tool...to change the default start up options
[01:38] <mrmist> snid: hehe... seems strange that Ubuntu-issues now might be as simple as a few mouseclicks.
[01:38] <kbrooks> !sudo > emun
[01:38] <kbrooks> emun: read that please
[01:39] <doskey> !op doskey
[01:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about op doskey - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:39] <doskey> ROFL
[01:39] <zoli2k> holycow, I use linux because a need a fast production environment, but it is nice to see, that the ubuntu comunty does not forget about the "simple" users. I know, that this is the motto of ubuntu comunity but i am glad that is is not only a motto.
[01:39] <kbrooks> doskey, dont mess with the bot :-)
[01:40] <compengi> kbrooks, how to unzip it?
[01:40] <holycow> zoli2k, the most important thing about ubuntu is that mark realized at a certain point in time that debian must remain pure
[01:40] <doskey> well i can msg it and see what i can do
[01:40] <kbrooks> compengi, use the archive manager
[01:41] <holycow> zoli2k, and splitting ubuntu off of that instead of making it a subproject of debian gives it a whole lot of freedome to divorce it self from dogma and a certain way of thinking.  ilove the fact that ubuntu keeps so close to debian tho as well.  it really has worked out well
[01:41] <emun> where is the bootloader admin tool
[01:41] <kbrooks> compengi, ... which you can open with a simple alt+f2 and file-roller
[01:41] <compengi> kbrooks, it's an office file how can i unzip it
[01:41] <holycow> however in the end, all roads lead back to debian
[01:41] <flossgeek> holycow: shame some debian folks dont see it that way
[01:41] <holycow> this is just a diversion :)
[01:42] <kbrooks> compengi, umm, .odts are zipped for data
[01:42] <holycow> flossgeek, thats a temporary state of mind imho
[01:42] <holycow> flossgeek, one thing that has started to become clear to me is that nothing is trully static.  people might hate linux today, 6 months down the road you can get them to change their mind.
[01:42] <cmweb> How well does wine emulate 98
[01:42] <holycow> more work needs to be done to help the translatio nbetween debian speak and ubuntu speak tho
[01:42] <Kioshen> emun: don't know if there's a GUI for it but you can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and then run update-grub
[01:42] <kbrooks> cmweb, don't use wine. just use Windows.
[01:43] <holycow> kbrooks, best advice ...
[01:43] <holycow> ... ever
[01:43] <holycow> :)
[01:43] <cmweb> Dont got win anymore
[01:43] <kbrooks> holycow, oh. duh.
[01:43] <cmweb> virus had fun
[01:43] <compengi> kbrooks, with archive manager it says Could not open "0000.odt"
[01:43] <compengi> Archive type not supported.
[01:43] <klees> does anyone know how do i compile the fglrx-kernel-source with a custom 2.6.19.1 kernel???
[01:43] <klees> i have fglrx-kernel-source installed
[01:43] <kbrooks> compengi, use unzip from the command line.
[01:43] <flossgeek> I think ubuntu could lead people to debian too in the end
[01:43] <holycow> compengi, are they ACTUALLY encrypting .odts?
[01:43] <holycow> wow
[01:44] <emun> something is wrong with this system now synaptic does not want to load up
[01:44] <kbrooks> holycow, i can probably say maybe
[01:44] <kbrooks> holycow, but not by efault
[01:44] <holycow> compengi, if its encrypted your access to it would depend on th eencryptio ntype and level.  if its a known bad encryption scheme you have a chance, otherwise  no
[01:44] <holycow> kbrooks, interesting, i will test that out
[01:45] <kbrooks> holycow, if the encryption scheme is so awfu that people can crack files, do you think it needs to be improved?
[01:45] <kbrooks> crack into*
[01:45] <holycow> kbrooks, :) i try not to second guess the good work of the open office devs
[01:46] <compengi> holycow, it's an ordinary office file which is protected with password
[01:46] <holycow> i really like oo :) hehe
[01:46] <kbrooks> md5(md5(password)+md5(content)) # bad.
[01:46] <cmweb> Hey in C++ how can i make text different colors
[01:46] <holycow> compengi, once its encrypted it no longer matters if its ordinary though
[01:46] <runner48> Hi there! I have a question concerning the installation of Ubuntu on my laptop. Hope you would be able to help me.
[01:46] <kbrooks> holycow, because its not ordinary.
[01:46] <cmweb> omg wrong channel
[01:47] <runner48> Wron g channel
[01:47] <runner48> ???
[01:47] <kbrooks> runner48, he typed in the wrong chatroom (also called a channel)
[01:47] <compengi> holycow, so i can't access it =/
[01:47] <emun> i canot even give a command to edit anything , help what is wrong with this ubuntu
[01:47] <kbrooks> compengi, nope.
[01:47] <runner48> :D IC
[01:48] <holycow> compengi, sounds like you forgot you password?
[01:48] <holycow> doesnt oo prompt for one?
[01:48] <kbrooks> runner48, you can join chatrooms with /join #chatroom ... eg /join #ubuntu
[01:48] <compengi> holycow, yeah i forgot it =/
[01:48] <kbrooks> runner48, (or whatever)
[01:48] <runner48> thx
[01:48] <kbrooks> compengi, well, you have lost access to the file.
[01:48] <zoli2k> is there an effort to release ubuntu kernel  for the C3 architectures?
[01:48] <emun> sudoers file errors, what is this wretched file anyway
[01:49] <holycow> compengi, what he said, that is sort of thepoitn unfotunately
[01:49] <holycow> compengi, its also why i am very hesitant to encrypt my drives
[01:49] <kbrooks> compengi, as morpheus said in xmen, there is no going back.
[01:49] <runner48> Can I ask for tech support concerning Ubuntu
[01:49] <Kioshen> emun: probably some errors in there
[01:49] <holycow> i simply accept that information wants to be free
[01:49] <Kioshen> emun: try in a console visudo to check it out
[01:49] <snood> hey guys. i'm having trouble installing ubunti. i've got the CD and trying to beet from it. i get the ubuntu logo and a progress bar.. after a while it stops with an error saing it cant find something like /bin/sh
[01:49] <holycow> (tm)
[01:49] <holycow> -_-
[01:49] <compengi> kbrooks, lol
[01:49] <kbrooks> i assume yall **have seen** xmen
[01:49] <runner48> Anyway, I have a Acer Aspire 5040 and when I start the live cd of Ubuntu I get a message on my screen "BIOS BUG"
[01:49] <zoli2k> have anybody ubuntu kernel for C3 processor?
[01:50] <kbrooks> either on dvd or at a theater
[01:50] <compengi> kbrooks, no i didn't watch it
[01:50] <Kioshen> snood: might want to check if you have burned the cd correctly
[01:50] <kbrooks> compengi, What  is so funny about my quote? It's not funny at all.
[01:51] <compengi> kbrooks, i liked the saying
[01:51] <emun> how do i correct these errors ,this is getting worse than windows for me , how do run visudo in a console
[01:51] <kbrooks> emun, well, go to applicatiions
[01:51] <snood> Kioshen how can i check that the cd is correct?
[01:51] <kbrooks> emun, then accessories
[01:51] <kbrooks> emun, then terminal
[01:51] <Kioshen> snood: when you boot the cd there's an option IIRC to check the integrity of the cdrom
[01:52] <snood> Kioshen okay i'll try that
[01:52] <snood> back soon
[01:52] <Kioshen> snood: gl
[01:52] <kbrooks> emun, or, more verbosely, you have to look at the top of the screen and click on accessories, which is beside the Ubuntu logo.
[01:53] <emun> ok i am in terminal now what is next
[01:53] <kbrooks> emun, well, type EDITOR=gedit visudo
[01:53] <runner48> hmmm, I thought this was the tech support for answering the questions. Is this what they call it 6 years support????
[01:53] <emun> ok
[01:53] <kbrooks> runner48, we are very busy sometimes.
[01:54] <kbrooks> emun, if gedit isn't found, try nano instead: EDITOR=nano visudo
[01:54] <emun> permission denied for the command
[01:55] <xyz> sudo nano editor=
[01:55] <xyz> sudo EDITOR
[01:55] <kbrooks> xyz, nope.
[01:55] <nalien> hello
[01:55] <kbrooks> xyz,stop there please
[01:55] <xyz> ohh ok
[01:55] <xyz> im still try and error
[01:55] <kbrooks> emun, seems like you are locked out of sudo. try this to be sure. sudo nano
[01:57] <tim167> how can I receive a FAX on my computer ?
[01:57] <kbrooks> emun. there?
[01:57] <emun> kbrooks , i think you right , sudo nano gave me sudoers file: syntax error
[01:58] <kbrooks> emun, well, that's why. but you are currently locked out of sudo because of that.
[01:58] <reiki> ack ack ack... ok dpkg-reconfigure got X started again but had to revert to nv driver. What's the fastest way to clone a working edgy install from hda1 to sdb1?
[01:59] <kbrooks> emun, so, you need to reboot. at the boot screen, pick the recovery version of ubuntu.
[01:59] <kbrooks> emun, do you understand what i am saying so far?
[01:59] <xyz> try sudo -i
[02:00] <xyz> to log on as roon , kbrooks
[02:00] <kbrooks> xyz: that stragety does not afaik bypass the file
[02:00] <emun> kbrooks, is it time to erase this ubuntu of my harddrive this is frustrating , are you saying the error is causing the lockout
[02:00] <fromvega> Hey ppl
[02:00] <un_operateur> emun, you need to get into single user mode and create the file anew
[02:01] <fromvega> Anybody knows how i can search some packages with apt-get?
[02:01] <kbrooks> xyz: it should not. if it did, it would cause severe problems and an development of another solution to replace sudo.
[02:01] <emun> ok what do i do aftrer booting into recovery
[02:01] <Kioshen> reiki: dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/sda1 or something close
[02:01] <un_operateur> fromvega, aptitude search <package?
[02:01] <un_operateur> fromvega, oops, aptitude search <package>
[02:01] <Kioshen> reiki: might want to google it first a little bit
[02:02] <zOap> fromvega, where are you from?
[02:02] <fromvega> un_operateur, thanks dude ;)
[02:02] <reiki> Kioshen, doing that now... thanks. Wasn't sure if rsync or dd would be faster
[02:02] <xyz> fromvega: apt-cheach search
[02:02] <un_operateur> fromvega,  :)
[02:02] <kbrooks> emun, well, you need to create the file anew like un_operateur said
[02:02] <fromvega> zOap, from vega! ;)
[02:02] <xyz> fromvega: my spelling is a bit off
[02:02] <zOap> frogzoo, vega where?
[02:02] <Kioshen> reiki: dd is lower level and since you want to copy a system ... it's better ;)
[02:03] <fromvega> zOap, j/k lol. from brazil!
[02:03] <kbrooks> un_operateur, woud you like to instruct him on booting into single user mode, etc?
[02:03] <xyz> ok kbbroo
[02:03] <zOap> fromvega, ok, I'm from a place called Vega too, but it's in Norway :D
[02:03] <reiki> Kioshen, ok.... will work from that point :)
[02:03] <reiki> thanks
[02:03] <Kioshen> gl
[02:03] <fromvega> zOap, really? hehehe cool! :)
[02:03] <un_operateur> kbrooks, I thought you had it covered?
[02:04] <emun> boy oh boy i tried to get into sigle user mode about an hour ago no clue
[02:04] <kbrooks> un_operateur, don't you know how to do this? :-)
[02:04] <un_operateur> kbrooks, I do :)
[02:04] <kbrooks> un_operateur, go on, teach him. we're watching! :-)
[02:04] <Riyonuk> Does Ubuntu auto-log you out? It seems everytime I leave my pc, I return with it logged out
[02:04] <xyz> i want to know this too,singl user mode
[02:05] <Kioshen> in the grub menu by default ubuntu create a recovery line
[02:05] <xyz> Riyonuk:yes, that seems to be that case
[02:05] <kbrooks> Riyonuk, it does not by default. however, by default it may lock your screen
[02:05] <un_operateur> kbrooks, I get a funny feeling you're being funny for no funny reason at all :)
[02:05] <Riyonuk> Well it just keeps logging my out, kinda annoying
[02:05] <un_operateur> emun, recovery mode == single user mode
[02:05] <Kioshen> either you select that or you append single
[02:05] <kbrooks> un_operateur, i'm not trying to be funny.
[02:05] <emun> yes single user mode anybody , i do see any option for when i boot up
[02:06] <un_operateur> emun, its the recovery mode
[02:06] <emun> correction do not seeit
[02:06] <un_operateur> emun, when you get to grub's menu .. press 'e' .. at the end type out 'single'
[02:06] <xyz> un_operateur:recovery is only a terminal thou ?
[02:06] <un_operateur> xyz, yes, obviously :)
[02:07] <xyz> so you type ,single
[02:07] <Kioshen> xyz: yes and with only critical services online
[02:07] <xyz> i see
[02:07] <un_operateur> Kioshen, with almost no services online
[02:08] <emun> i see now i know once in recovery  so do not wait gui right
[02:08] <Kioshen> un_operateur: yeah like I said only critical ones like udev fex ;)
[02:08] <un_operateur> emun, you can't get a GUI there
[02:09] <emun> i see ok so what do i type in the terminal then
[02:10] <un_operateur> emun, you'll need to mount the volume that has / on ..
[02:11] <nalien> hello
[02:11] <nalien>  I installed vista and ubuntu and grub don't want to boot vista
[02:11] <nalien> i got a 23 error
[02:11] <nalien>  and gparted don't reconize the vista partition
[02:11] <emun> you say i type single in the terminal then type what command to mount /
[02:11] <nalien> so I wonder if there is a bug on big partition reconize ?
[02:12] <kyja> my edgy is very unstable. it gets to where I cant launch applications.
[02:12] <un_operateur> emun, you don't type single at the terminal -- because you dont get one -- you modify grub's menu to get you into single-user mode -- and then you get to a root terminal
[02:12] <jamesbrose> Is there anyway to put the new Ipod Games on your ipod with linux?
[02:12] <kyja> I cant open terminal or open the dialog to reboot.
[02:13] <emun> ok got it , so in prompt in the terminal what do i type to mount  /
[02:13] <un_operateur> emun, once there, you mount / .. which is probably you /dev/hda2 .. mkdir /tmp/hda2; mount /dev/hda2/tmp
[02:14] <un_operateur> oops
[02:14] <neko_> kyja: ctrl+alt+f1 then login and 'sudo shutdown -r now'
[02:14] <un_operateur> emun,  mkdir /tmp/hda2; mount /dev/hda2 /tmp/hda2
[02:14] <emun> ok i am copying this down
[02:15] <Riyonuk> Things with a . in front of them are hidden right?
[02:15] <un_operateur> emun, once you have mounted / -- you need to chroot to it .. chroot /tmp/hda2
[02:16] <Kioshen> Riyonuk: yes
[02:16] <Riyonuk> Ok
[02:16] <un_operateur> emun, once inside chroot -- edit sudoers -- vi /etc/sudoers
[02:16] <Riyonuk> I hate this, I install things in Synaptic Packgage Mananger and some programs appear in my Apllications Menu, others dont
[02:16] <Riyonuk> Why?
[02:16] <kyja> ok thx neko_
[02:17] <Kioshen> Riyonuk: list faulty apps please
[02:17] <un_operateur> Riyonuk, you need to add them to your menu --  at a terminal -- gmenu-simple-editor
[02:17] <Riyonuk> ROX
[02:17] <Riyonuk> oh
[02:17] <Riyonuk> Now I gotta find the terminal >_>
[02:18] <Kioshen> Riyonuk: alt+F2 can be used for a quick entry to start an app
[02:18] <un_operateur> Riyonuk, I dont use gnome -- but i suppose it is under 'accessories' .. then'gnome terminal' or such
[02:18] <Riyonuk> Yeah I found it
[02:19] <Kioshen> Riyonuk: and ROX is a file manager IIRC so I don't think there's a .desktop for it
[02:19] <Riyonuk> So where would ROX be then, Kioshen?
[02:19] <Kioshen> Riyonuk: in synaptics you can check the properties of a packages and it can list you the files it has installed
[02:20] <emun> ok un oprerateur, after vi /etc/sudoers what is next
[02:20] <doskey> stoneey you in hts server ?
[02:20] <rod> hi  i got the 6.10 live cd... its corrupt.., hangs on installing packages. Now I wanna do a minimal install with getting as much as possible from the internet while installing... Howto?
[02:20] <Kioshen> Riyonuk: most probably in /usr/bin
[02:20] <stoneey> doskey > no
[02:21] <ktraglin> rod: i think you'd need the alternate install cd
[02:21] <Riyonuk> I found rox-filer in /user/bin I double clicked it and nothing happneed
[02:21] <doskey> stoneey incorrect english
[02:21] <doskey> its doskey: no
[02:21] <snood> Kioshen: u here still?
[02:21] <Kioshen> snood: yup
[02:21] <doskey> doskey> no meANS I AM HIGHER THAN NO
[02:22] <emun> un operateur is the vi command the last one , because i am about to log off and try it
[02:22] <doskey> shit
[02:22] <doskey> hey there is not caps kick
[02:22] <un_operateur> emun, well, then you need to recreate the file anew -- like this here -- http://pastebin.ca/293315
[02:23] <PriceChild> !language | doskey
[02:23] <ubotu> doskey: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:23] <PriceChild> second time
[02:23] <snood> Kioshen: okay, i checked the cd and it returned no checksum errors. i tried booting again and noted the error, it is: /bin/sh: cant access tty, job control turned off
[02:23] <doskey> wtf
[02:23] <un_operateur> Riyonuk, if the menu-editor doesn't find rox - you can make a menu entry by following the format of one of the entries in /usr/share/applications
 doskey: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:23] <doskey> what language
[02:23] <POVaddct> doskey: sh*t
[02:23] <doskey> oh
[02:23] <PriceChild> the s word, which i have seen twice
[02:23] <Riyonuk> un_operateur, what?
[02:23] <POVaddct> doskey: that language
[02:23] <doskey> yeah i just saw it
[02:24] <doskey> :/
[02:24] <doskey> sorry all.
[02:24] <doskey> no harm done eh!.
[02:24] <emun> ok i check that url now
[02:24] <kbrooks__> doskey, dont say the word
[02:24] <kbrooks__> :-)
[02:24] <un_operateur> Riyonuk, did you use the menu-editor to try and get rox pinned to the menu
[02:24] <un_operateur> ?
[02:24] <Kioshen> snood: is there any other error above it because basically the booting process crashes and dumps you in a debug sheel
[02:24] <doskey> wel the bot is not very skillfully programmed is it.
[02:25] <Kioshen> snood: s/sheel/shell sorry
[02:25] <Riyonuk> I dont know, I dont really know what Im doing
[02:25] <anto> Hi
[02:25] <POVaddct> doskey: the bot is mainly for factoids, not for kicking people
[02:25] <doskey> you should have SWEAR kick and CAPS kick
[02:25] <anto> i have got a problem when trying to compile a program
[02:25] <un_operateur> doskey, it's just a bot .. people use it .. and remember -- kids come in here too
[02:25] <anto> i'm a kid !
[02:25] <mc2003> well me again(the newb...)how do i change the boot options......
[02:25] <anto> now then
[02:25] <anto> can somone help me?
[02:25] <snood> Kioshen: that's all i get.... other than a commend line: (initramfs)
[02:25] <POVaddct> doskey: no, it is intentionally that no one get autokicked
[02:25] <doskey> un_operator i am a kid
[02:26] <doskey> im 13
[02:26] <doskey> :/
[02:26] <anto> i'm 14
[02:26] <doskey> and i would say i am half way leet for being 13
[02:26] <un_operateur> doskey, you're a teenager :) i mean kids younger than you ... and also adults who wouldnt like to hear that language
[02:26] <POVaddct> i am 39, so what? :)
[02:26] <ktraglin> anto you need help regarding being 14 or help with ubuntu?
[02:26] <Riyonuk> :p
[02:27] <POVaddct> ktraglin: hehe
[02:27] <anto> ktraglin: go die :), nah just joking when i try to compile my server i get a error configure: error: "Lua headers missing"
[02:27] <anto> but i got all the lua dev packages installed
[02:27] <KenSentMe> Ubuntu reacts when i insert a SD card into the card reader of my lapop, but memory stick isn't recognised. For what package should i file a bug to get it solved?
[02:27] <Kioshen> snood: check the boot options for disabling some boot options like noacpi or noapic
[02:28] <ktraglin> anto: what package are you trying to compile?
[02:28] <iGadget> hi all
[02:28] <anto> kraglin: its a server
[02:28] <doskey> erm the server is not good at all is it
[02:28] <Kioshen> snood: other than that I have no clue since I'm pretty new to ubuntu and don't know it's boot routine very well
[02:28] <doskey> GLINE Unknown command
[02:28] <snood> Kioshen: how would i go about doing that?
[02:28] <doskey> :/
[02:28] <Riyonuk> How do I change fonts?
[02:29] <Kioshen> snood: when you see the boot screen to select an option try pressing F2 IIRC
[02:29] <anto> kraglin: its a Open tibia game server.
[02:29] <Kioshen> Riyonuk: System > Preferences > Font
[02:29] <POVaddct> doskey: just because it doesnt have the commands YOU know that doesnt mean its no good
[02:29] <diminthedam> hey folks! can anyone direct me to a guide on installing XP after an ubuntu installation?
[02:29] <anto> diminthedam just create another partition and install on it.
[02:30] <un_operateur> diminthedam,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[02:30] <snood> kioshen: i'll give it a go
[02:30] <diminthedam> anto: i have done that and its not-formatted yet. Hpwever last time i tried this windows stuffed up the grub
[02:30] <ktraglin> anto: sorry, i don't know much about open tibia or game servers.
[02:30] <mc2003> i think u 1st had to install xp and ubuntu ata last
[02:31] <un_operateur> diminthedam, windows always overwrites the bootloader .. so if you install windows, you'll need to reinstall grub afterwards
[02:31] <diminthedam> un_operateur: thanks, byut this guide recommends installing windows first
[02:31] <anto> ktraglin: i understand that but you have any idea what my cause this error ? i got a config error log i posted it here ->http://otfans.net/showthread.php?t=62060
[02:31] <diminthedam> un_operateur: any guides for reinstalling grub?
[02:31] <un_operateur> !grub | diminthedam
[02:31] <hhanne> is there any repository for ubuntu with qmail?
[02:31] <ubotu> diminthedam: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:31] <emun> un operateur can not find http:/paste.bin.ca/293315
[02:31] <Kioshen> diminthedam: yes since ubuntu then takes care of creating an entry for Windows in grub for you and allows you to resize your windows partition
[02:32] <iGadget> can anyone tell me if it's possible to use the same mailfolder in both thunderbird xp as thunderbird ubuntu?
[02:32] <un_operateur> emun, i think you wanted -- http://pastebin.ca/293315
[02:32] <mc2003> any1 to help me set up the boot options at startup
[02:32] <diminthedam> thanks all!
[02:32] <un_operateur> iGadget, should be 100% cross-compatible -- they are both thunderbird after all :)
[02:33] <un_operateur> mc2003, what did you want to change?
[02:34] <mc2003> the default start of linux ..i want to have default xp/loader and do the timeup :)
[02:34] <emun> un opreateur, browser cannot find that url
[02:34] <un_operateur> emun, can't you click on this link -->>  http://pastebin.ca/293315
[02:34] <un_operateur> ?
[02:35] <Kioshen> mc2003: you can't use ntldr to boot linux
[02:35] <SF100> hi everyone...how can I access files on a windows xp machine with file and printer sharing set up. I am already able to share a printer on the machine I want to access files
[02:35] <un_operateur> mc2003, did you see the grub wiki i posted up there for diminthedam ??
[02:35] <KenSentMe> Ubuntu reacts when i insert a SD card into the card reader of my lapop, but memory stick isn't recognised. For what package should i file a bug to get it solved?
[02:35] <mc2003> yes but the grub says at the last line xp loader...
[02:36] <kemik> !wireless
[02:36] <mc2003> w8 to sroll
[02:36] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:36] <emun> ok i see what you mean i did not know it was a link
[02:36] <iGadget> un_operateur: well, I guess I'll just have to try then, see what happens ;)
[02:36] <emun> i see it now
[02:36] <un_operateur> iGadget, make a backup first :)
[02:36] <ktraglin> anto: me thinks lua is a programming language required for the compliation of the program UR trying to compile.
[02:36] <iGadget> un_operateur: will do :)
[02:37] <un_operateur> emun, if you feel this is all a bit above your head -- you can always use a knoppix boot CD to aid you
[02:37] <elvirolo> hi all
[02:37] <Kioshen> SF100: Places > Network > Windows Network for browsing smb shares
[02:37] <ktraglin> anto: ... unfortunately, i know nothing of lua, but my guess is that one of the required packages is missing.
[02:37] <SF100> Kioshen: thanks ill try that now
[02:37] <elvirolo> sound doesn't seem to be working here ... i haven't touched anything in alsamixer though ; i've already tried restarting alsa, but it still doesn't work
[02:38] <emun> i will try it it i fail then i can use knopix obviously i would not know after i boot with knoppix
[02:39] <emun> is defaults part of the commands
[02:40] <SF100> Kioshen: I can see the network but it says could not display "smb:///grandnetwork" This location is not a folder
[02:41] <anto> ktraglin: i got all lua packages installed :S?
[02:42] <un_operateur> emun, I think you had better use knoppix -- because you need the contents of http://pastebin.ca/293315 exactly as they are in /etc/sudoers otherwise you will still have the same problem
[02:42] <ktraglin> anto: wish i could help, but i simply don't know... perhaps another channel that deals with open-tibia?
[02:42] <POVaddct> anto: it is still missing lua.h, are you sure you have that file?
[02:44] <emun> how do use the knoppix, after i boot it up like live cd
[02:44] <mc2003> ty in advance ill restart and see.....
[02:46] <un_operateur> emun, you  boot up to the desktop in koppix, select the partition that represents / , properties -- change to "read/write" mode .. after, explore that partition, and open up the etc/sudoers file with the editor -- and then copy and paste  http://pastebin.ca/293315 into it, save the file, reboot, etc, etc
[02:47] <Kioshen> SF100: you can specify the name of the Win pc you try to reach in Nautilus by pressing CTRL+L and entering smb://mywinpc/
[02:48] <un_operateur> smb://machinename/sharename would be better
[02:48] <un_operateur> or if there are no shares -- smb://machinename/c$
[02:48] <Kioshen> un_operateur: yeah but some times nautilus doesn't want to connect if I specify a share directly
[02:49] <SF100> Kioshen: I got it, I think it was a firewall issue on the windows machine. I disabled it and it worked, I have to set an exception for the linux box. Thank you for the help
[02:49] <Kioshen> un_operateur: like if I try to reach a mac os x tiger fex
[02:49] <un_operateur> Kioshen, in most cases, if you dont specify a share explicitly you have bigger problems
[02:49] <emun> ok how do open i something with editor
[02:50] <Kioshen> SF100: it's better to keep you firwall up and activate sharing support in the exceptions
[02:50] <Icarus> is there a flash 9 upgrade out yet?
[02:50] <un_operateur> emun, I think knoppix uses kedit .. you can definitely find it in the knoppix menu
[02:50] <Kioshen> un_operateur: yeah but it seems to be a hit or miss in nautilus nevertheless I concur :)
[02:50] <warty> haiii hello
[02:51] <Kioshen> un_operateur: i use smbmount anyway ...
[02:51] <Icarus> or is there some other app for flash players?
[02:51] <un_operateur> Kioshen, given that SMB/CIFS is so insecure, most administrators/software will configure it in such a way that you must navigate to a share directly or the machine is "invisible" on the SMB/CIFS network
[02:52] <POVaddct> Kioshen: if i wanted to access file from mac os x from ubuntu, i would use ssh/sftp
[02:52] <thaler> hallo
[02:52] <SubMOA> hello everybody
[02:52] <thaler> frohe weinachten
[02:52] <POVaddct> thaler: merry x-mas
[02:52] <Kioshen> POVaddct: ack
[02:52] <SubMOA> How would someone start Xchat from the command line
[02:52] <emun> ok thanks will try your suggestion some observation , this is more difficult than messing with windows registry
[02:52] <thaler> ^^
[02:53] <SF100> Kioshen: I just created the exception and it works. Thanks for the help. Have a happy new year!!!
[02:53] <un_operateur> SubMOA, xchat :)
[02:53] <SubMOA> i know I can type "xchat" on in the box that is similar to the Windoz "Run" application
[02:53] <SubMOA> but I can't get it from the command line
[02:53] <Kioshen> SF100: you too :)
[02:53] <un_operateur> emun, it's only difficult because of the number of steps -- but it's really easy otherwise :)
[02:53] <JBLoudG20> yay I just ordered a lenovo 3000n!!!
[02:54] <un_operateur> SubMOA, avoid the "run" box and try the command-line directly
[02:54] <SubMOA> jbloudg20 I want that new tablet/laptop dealio
[02:54] <SubMOA> ok
[02:54] <SubMOA> well, can i have two instances of xchat running?
[02:54] <JBLoudG20> SubMOA, I didnt want a tablet, but I'm pretty excited about my new computer
[02:54] <un_operateur> SubMOA, that way you can tab-test -- type in xch<TAB>  .. and you'll get suggestions
[02:54] <SubMOA> un_operateur, btw, what is that "run" box actually called
[02:55] <un_operateur> SubMOA, gnome-launcher i think .. not sure, i dont use gnome
[02:55] <SubMOA> jbloudg20, nice enjoy it for me! :O)
[02:55] <JBLoudG20> SubMOA
[02:55] <SubMOA> un_operateur, rgr
[02:55] <KenSentMe> Ubuntu reacts when i insert a SD card into the card reader of my lapop, but memory stick isn't recognised. For what package should i file a bug to get it solved?
[02:55] <JBLoudG20> thanks
[02:55] <JBLoudG20> SubMOA, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16834146189
[02:55] <SubMOA> domo
[02:55] <JBLoudG20> but I ordered it directly from IBM
[02:55] <SubMOA> (thanks in Japanese)
[02:55] <emun> ok i will take your word, to reiterate , i boot up into recovery mode in ubuntu press e ...
[02:55] <SubMOA> un-operateur, I will give it a go
[02:55] <POVaddct> SubMOA: why two instances? i think xchat has multiserver support
[02:56] <indianaj> how can i conf my printer?
[02:56] <SubMOA> un_operateur, so that will show me pretty much anything that begins with "xch" (in your example you showed, at least)
[02:56] <Zaggynl> Anyone knows of a way to control xmms it's volume with the commandline?
[02:56] <emun> thanks un operateur signing will be back soon
[02:57] <un_operateur> SubMOA, aye, exactly :)
[02:57] <SubMOA> POVaddct, please excuse me if I used the wrong lingo (newbie), but I mean since I have it running now, and if i try and open it again, does that make the hoodoo voodoo gremlins come out?
[02:57] <emun> signing out
[02:57] <POVaddct> SubMOA: i dont know. i have switched from xchat to irssi 3 years ago.
[02:57] <ken> Help: I need to know which audio and video player you use. And what backend to use gstreamer / xine. And what are the adv/disadv of each?
[02:58] <SubMOA> also, before I forget, I have beryl, and iti seems some of they keyboard shortcuts are overlapping my OS shortcuts, any recommendations for a solution?
[02:58] <SubMOA> povaddct, irssi?
[02:58] <POVaddct> SubMOA: console irc client. runs nice in a screen session.
[02:58] <SubMOA> un-operateur, turns out I'm an idiot :O)  typing in "xchat" worked perfectly.  I don't know why it didn't the first time, guess I mispelled it or something
[02:59] <SubMOA> povaddct, screen session? as in a terminal... do you have a GUI?
[02:59] <ken>  I need to know which audio and video player you use. And what backend to use gstreamer / xine. And what are the adv/disadv of each?
[02:59] <SubMOA> <[03:00] <POVaddct> SubMOA: screen is a terminal emulator with very nice features like detaching/reattaching a session. i can run in real text mode as well as in some X terminal emulator like xterm or gnome-terminal.
[03:01] <SubMOA> un_operateur, anything I type in the gnome-launcher thing should run just as easily from the terminal, right? without extra addresses or URL's or whatever they're called?  I don't need to change directories or anything?
[03:01] <POVaddct> SubMOA: screen is not for GUI apps, just for apps running in a terminal
[03:01] <kane77> is there anything to add a real transparency to my gnome...?
[03:02] <POVaddct> SubMOA: i do have a GUI, but i run xterm on it and screen within xterm
[03:02] <SubMOA> povaddct, i'm just learning and I've debated using just a terminal (as in no GUI), sounds nice, but I think I'd need the help from my GUI
[03:02] <SubMOA> oh, ok
[03:02] <Riyonuk> How do I get my toolbar to like windows? All in one at the bottom?
[03:03] <SubMOA> what's everybodies take on the WRT54G?
[03:03] <SubMOA> the linksys router
[03:03] <doddie> what antivirus software should I use with Linux?
[03:03] <Riyonuk> I dont think linux has viruses
[03:04] <indianaj> i need to shape a printer. how can i?
[03:04] <`rich> Riyonuk, it does. Just nowhere near as many as windows.
[03:04] <SubMOA> indianaj, a file and some needlenose
[03:04] <`rich> doddie, ClamAV is the most popular.
[03:04] <Riyonuk> :o
[03:04] <indianaj> ok
[03:04] <SubMOA> :O)
[03:05] <Riyonuk> Anyone care to help little ol me :p
[03:05] <Riyonuk> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Edgyeft.png - Must get desktop like that
[03:05] <shanky> I have ubuntu dapper, and I'm trying to get php4 working with Apache 1.3
[03:05] <`rich> SubMOA, i have that router. does the job for me well enough.
[03:05] <shanky> I have add LoadModule php4, to modules.conf
[03:05] <Gosha> how do i check the version of a perlmodule i have? ( ExtUtils::MakeMaker )
[03:05] <SubMOA> `rich, have you flashed it or done anything, umm, extraordinary (right word?) to it
[03:06] <`rich> nope, just plugged it in, gave it the settings and that's it.
[03:06] <shanky> and I have a conf.d/php4.conf but it doesn't work
[03:06] <shanky> firefox tries to download the php files in stead of serving the html results
[03:07] <SubMOA> Riyonuk, I would recommend a desktop like this http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8372633310271377046&q=xgl+beryl
[03:07] <|stefan|> lu =)
[03:07] <ollekalle> Hi, can someone provide me with some good web resource for how to install and conifigure hibernate/suspend for by edgy-server. As a start, does someone know what package to install?
[03:07] <kane77> is beryl available for amd64??
[03:08] <|stefan|> got a bit of a problem here ;) when i upgraded to 6.10 the administration menu stopped working. i noticed that gksu was removed infront of the items there. tried to add gksu to them but that doesn't work. gksu has the same configuration as before. admin group has root priveleges and my user is in admin group. any idea ?
[03:08] <ken> HELP: What multimedia player audio/video do you use? And what backend xine / gstreamer is good?
[03:08] <SubMOA> so I was looking around at different servers on IRC, and a thought occurred: is it easy to "hack" (or rather crack) somenoes machine when they are on IRC?
[03:08] <|stefan|> ken: vlc =)
[03:08] <POVaddct> ken: mplayer
[03:08] <Riyonuk> Gotta install flash player...
[03:08] <kane77> ken, I use vlc... it plays anything
[03:09] <SubMOA> Riyonuk, you definitely should go through the trouble of getting it, the video is insane
[03:09] <SubMOA> it's the new (?) Beryl/XGL manager/system backend (I think)
[03:10] <ken> ?
[03:10] <shanky> it was the cache
[03:11] <Riyonuk> I cant see it, evertime it loads firefox quits on me
[03:11] <Riyonuk> :(
[03:11] <SubMOA> oh no, does anybody have a solution for that here?
[03:11] <un_operateur> SubMOA, solution on?
[03:12] <Riyonuk> OMG
[03:12] <un_operateur> SubMOA, hacking through IRC?
[03:12] <Riyonuk> Firefox loads that beryl page and then it closes
[03:12] <SubMOA> un_operateur, Riyonuk is trying to watch a flash video (from video.google.com) here and he says when it loads, firefox quits
[03:12] <Riyonuk> I think somethings wrong..
[03:12] <Riyonuk> I installed that plugin..
[03:12] <SubMOA> un_operateur, no, not that, although I was worried someone might mess with my comp, is there a way to protect from that?
[03:12] <un_operateur> Riyonuk, which version of flash? which plugin?
[03:12] <Riyonuk> I dont know, I just installed it like 1min ago
[03:13] <un_operateur> SubMOA, run a firewall and make sure any other open services are protected/patched/up2date
[03:13] <Riyonuk> It said "This page requires additional plugins, click here to install" so I did
[03:13] <SubMOA> un_operateur, rgr
[03:13] <SubMOA> thanks
[03:14] <un_operateur> Riyonuk, run !flash as per instructions on the wiki
[03:14] <un_operateur> !flash
[03:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
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[03:14] <Zaggynl> Adee, lame?
[03:15] <compengi> someone kick him
[03:15] <ken> POVaddct: What backend xine or gstreamer?
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[03:15] <Adee> SPAM?
[03:15] <SubMOA> how does someone go about kicked someone?
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[03:15] <POVaddct> ken: mplayer doesnt user either of them
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[03:15] <Zaggynl> !medic
[03:15] <jbroome> !ops | adee flood
[03:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about medic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:15] <ubotu> adee flood: Help! Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!
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[03:15] <un_operateur> no one channel operator here??
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[03:15] <Riyonuk> wtf
[03:15] <POVaddct> thx Seveas
[03:15] <SubMOA> thanks!
[03:15] <Seveas> !medic is <alias> ops
[03:15] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Seveas
[03:16] <SubMOA> does the "!" bring up the ubotu?
[03:16] <Seveas> yes
[03:16] <afungu25> how come took you so long to kik him logging him i guess?
[03:16] <swj> Does anyone have the murrine GTK2 Engine 0.31 for edgy available somewhere? (The Ubuntu murrine repo is down atm)  ref: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=42755
[03:16] <dv_> maybe a spambot, powered by vista? :)
[03:16] <Seveas> ubotu, please be so kind as to tell SubMOA about yourself
[03:16] <afungu25> proally
[03:16] <SubMOA> !ubotu
[03:17] <SubMOA> nope, didn't work
[03:17] <Seveas> hmm
[03:17] <Seveas> !-ubotu
[03:17] <ubotu> ubotu aliases: yourself, bot, usage, factoid, list, brain, help, add, help me, syntax - added by Seveas on 2006-06-19 12:15:56
[03:17] <jengc0il> hi there
[03:17] <ken> un_operateur: compengi: What multimedia back-end should i use? xine or gstreamer?
[03:17] <SubMOA> nice, thanks seveas
[03:17] <sharks> hi!
[03:17] <Seveas> oooh fun
[03:17] <Seveas> !-ubotu
[03:17] <Seveas> !ubotu
[03:17] <un_operateur> ken, on mozilla/firefox?
[03:17] <sharks> someone could help me with SATA problems?
[03:18] <thepianoguy> my kubuntu freezes upon startup after loading USB core using 2.6.19 and 2.6.20 kernels in feisty
[03:18] <thepianoguy> is this normal?
[03:18] <compengi> ken, to be able to run .mp3 song?
[03:18] <ken> un_operateur: compengi: For regular cd/dvd and other web content watching offline? and yeah maybe online also but firefox is not a priority, offline is the main thing
[03:18] <un_operateur> thepianoguy, feisty still in "unstable" category  :)
[03:18] <ken> compengi: un_operateur: Not for a specific format but for ALL of them
[03:18] <un_operateur> ken, I use mplayer/xmms solely for those purposes
[03:19] <compengi> ken, then gstreamer libraries
[03:19] <ken> POVaddct: un_operateur: What backend does mplayer use? what library, as in xine-gstreamer?
[03:19] <thepianoguy> I know, that's why I'm testing it :)
[03:19] <ken> POVaddct: I know it uses neither of them, but what does it use?
[03:19] <compengi> !restricted
[03:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:19] <POVaddct> ken: mplayer uses its own backend
[03:19] <un_operateur> ken, it can use the gstreamer libs -- but it has its own wide-ranging collection
[03:20] <compengi> !restricted > ken
[03:20] <iskra`> t.net
[03:20] <ken> POVaddct: un_operateur: And just installing mplayer downloads all the libraries that are required for its backend
[03:20] <swj> I am using edgy gstreamer (all plugins) with totem (default) and playing everything so far without win32 codecs
[03:20] <un_operateur> ken, yes
[03:20] <ken> compengi: I have read those pages but those didn't tell me which library is better so i am asking here ;=)
[03:20] <ken> un_operateur: Thank you
[03:21] <klerfayt> how do you disable frambuffer in grub menu? is it no-fb or non-fb?
[03:21] <POVaddct> ken: yes, but i suggest installing the w32codecs referenced on the RestrictedFormats page too
[03:21] <compengi> ken, i installed gstream lib and things work fine
[03:21] <ken> compengi: OK
[03:21] <compengi> ken, yeah and w23codecs could help too
[03:22] <ken> compengi: POVaddct: un_operateur: Anyone here who prefers xine over gstreamer?
[03:22] <un_operateur> ken, you can also install the gstreamer libs so mplayer can use them --  gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse and gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse and gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[03:22] <compengi> ken, xine is good for dvd purpose that what i use it for
[03:22] <POVaddct> ken: i prefer mplayer which is neither gstreamer nor xine
[03:22] <un_operateur> IIRC mplayer includes the w32codecs within
[03:22] <defend> mplayer is awsome
[03:23] <POVaddct> un_operateur: really?
[03:23] <ken> POVaddct: compengi: un_operateur: thank you for your response
[03:23] <un_operateur> POVaddct, let me verify
[03:23] <compengi> ken, you're welcome
[03:24] <ken> !you
[03:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about you - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:24] <ken> !me
[03:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:24] <ken> !gnu > ken
[03:24] <compengi> is ubuntu an eggdrop?
[03:24] <POVaddct> compengi: i dont think so
[03:25] <POVaddct> compengi: you mean ubotu, dont you?
[03:25] <ken> compengi: POVaddct: What's a eggdrop?
[03:25] <un_operateur> POVaddct, that was the mplayer-codecs package -- which i am not sure is installed when you install mplayer on ubuntu -- http://www.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/
[03:25] <POVaddct> ken: eggdrop is an irc bot
[03:25] <compengi> POVaddct, yeah i meant ubotu
[03:25] <ken> POVaddct: ok
[03:26] <ken> compengi: you could have said 'bot' ;-)
[03:26] <compengi> lol
[03:26] <compengi> ken, bot is in general
[03:26] <ken> !bot
[03:26] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:26] <un_operateur> ken, you can have private sessions with ubotu if you /query him :)
[03:26] <compengi> ken, there are lots of bots but each bot is programmed in certain language :)
[03:26] <jbroome> !msgthebot
[03:26] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[03:27] <un_operateur> ken, like they say "get a room, you two!!" :)
[03:27] <ken> un_operateur: ;)
[03:29] <compengi> un_operateur, oh i forgot btw pppoeconf worked :)
[03:29] <ken> People the bot doesn't know about...
[03:29] <un_operateur> compengi, nice :) what did you have to do?
[03:29] <ken> !unix
[03:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:30] <pro1> alguem fala portugues
[03:30] <compengi> un_operateur, i didn't i gave it to my friend cause it was for him and then he told me that it worked :)
[03:30] <un_operateur> compengi, cool, good to know :)
[03:30] <compengi> un_operateur, i can ask him :)
[03:30] <POVaddct> !pt | pro1
[03:31] <ubotu> pro1: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[03:31] <m4k0> ciao a tutti
[03:31] <ken> la la uti tu
[03:31] <ken> :)
[03:31] <compengi> un_operateur, so we can know if someone had the same problem how to deal with it ;)
[03:31] <un_operateur> compengi, well, i know how it would have worked -- it's just that you were having trouble the otherday and wondered what else you were missing then.. thats all
[03:31] <m4k0> ci sono italiani?
[03:31] <Gosha> how come cpan wont work for me with any module .. am i doind gomething wrong or are all those server down?
[03:31] <Some_Person> last night i set up my dsl, today it wont work
[03:31] <ken> lu lu lala pi
[03:31] <ken> !it
[03:31] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:31] <SubMOA> Tobacco suit-e mo e-deska?
[03:31] <un_operateur> compengi, yea, go on, ask him, we can make a PPPoE wiki :)
[03:31] <m4k0> grazie
[03:31] <compengi> :)
[03:32] <Some_Person> i set it up with pppoeconf last night, today that fails
[03:32] <ken> un_operateur: that would be useful
[03:32] <Some_Person> what should i do?
[03:32] <E-bola> Where can i find a ubuntu live cd? I cant find any on ubuntu.com
[03:32] <ken> !ubuntu
[03:32] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[03:32] <ThePub> morning
[03:32] <E-bola> ken: is that directed at me?
[03:32] <ken> !download
[03:32] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[03:33] <ken> e-bola that one is
[03:33] <SubMOA> is there an ETA for when Ubuntu will be packed with xgl/compiz or aigxl or beryl or, etc. etc.
[03:33] <E-bola> I dont need an installation cd...
[03:33] <E-bola> is there no difference between install and live cd's with ubuntu?
[03:33] <ken> E-bola: no nothing
[03:33] <E-bola> ok, that explains my troubles then
[03:33] <SubMOA> e-bola, I thought the installation CD was the same thing... you could rdun it live, or you could download it
[03:33] <Some_Person> E-bola: there's only one, live and install are 1 cd
[03:33] <SubMOA> **install it**
[03:33] <ken> e-bola: the live cd, doubles up as a installation cd, so if you are having fun with the live session than someday you can install it too, by pressing the desktop icon
[03:34] <POVaddct> E-bola: since dapper, the live cd is also the install cd
[03:34] <SubMOA> does anybody have beryl?
[03:34] <Some_Person> now, why did pppoeonf work yesterday but not today?
[03:34] <ken> Some_Person: typing mistake? :)
[03:34] <Some_Person> no
[03:34] <SubMOA> I woud like to zoom out on the cube when I rotate it
[03:34] <doskey> i cant get photoshop working with wine :(
[03:34] <Some_Person> yesterday pppoeconf set up my dsl
[03:35] <Some_Person> today it fails
[03:35] <Wasca> Hi everyone, is this the right place to ask about udev?
[03:35] <ken> Some_Person: What doesn;t work, what is the error, problems
[03:35] <Some_Person> couldnt find an access concentrator
[03:35] <Riyonuk> How do I get the network-manager bar thing back on my taskbar?
[03:35] <DENYeitan0o9> hey guys, im dumb
[03:35] <DENYeitan0o9> i need to know what file has the user account info
[03:35] <SubMOA> !! ME TOO, denyeitan0o9!
[03:36] <ken> Riyonuk: drag and drop from the ubuntu menu onto the bar
[03:36] <DENYeitan0o9> since I changed the value of where my home directory is
[03:36] <`rich> DENYeitan0o9, what info are you after?
[03:36] <`rich> DENYeitan0o9, /etc/passwd is a good start
[03:36] <POVaddct> DENYeitan0o9: /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow
[03:36] <DENYeitan0o9> i cant log into ubuntu anymore
[03:36] <Riyonuk> ken, its not on the ubuntu menu..
[03:36] <DENYeitan0o9> ok lemme try
[03:36] <ken> Some_Person: Is everything connected securely
[03:36] <Some_Person> yes
[03:36] <Some_Person> i'm using it on windows now, no connection changes
[03:36] <SubMOA> gotta run, Submoa, out.
[03:36] <ken> Riyonuk: System>Administration>Networking, drag and drop that thing to your launch bar
[03:36] <un_operateur> . o 0 ( /etc/dumbusers :) )
[03:37] <Baptiste> hi
[03:37] <ken> Some_Person: please reboot to ubuntu and try "sudo pppoeconf", if that fails maybe searching the forums will help. Sorry not to be of mroe service
[03:37] <Some_Person> i tried that earlier
[03:37] <Some_Person> i rebooted 3 times
[03:37] <Baptiste> I have the "(EE) fglrx(0): [agp]  unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_ENODEV"" error with 2.6.17-1-generic
[03:37] <Baptiste> 10 I mean
[03:38] <un_operateur> Some_Person, what was the _exact_ error you got?
[03:38] <Baptiste> I have already putted  	Option "AIGLX" "off" and 	Option	    "Composite" "disable" in my xorg.conf
[03:38] <dmc_> Can someone tell me how to initially set the root password?
[03:38] <Baptiste> any other idea ?
[03:38] <ken> un_operateur: 'no acces concentrator found'
[03:38] <Some_Person> couldnt find an access concentrator on eth0
[03:39] <`rich> dmc_, sudo passwd
[03:39] <Some_Person> it found one yesterday
[03:39] <un_operateur> Some_Person, ken, exact error message needed to STW :)
[03:39] <dmc_> 'rich: thanks
[03:39] <libervisco> there is a conflict between  terminal.app and xfce4-terminal
[03:39] <reiki_> I'm testing the use of partimage (from the repositories) to clone hda1 onto sdb1. I should know how it works out in a few minutes
[03:39] <Some_Person> i told you the dang error
[03:39] <Riyonuk> ken, Ok, now its just a shortcut to configure devices, I mean the program called network-manager, it shows those bars that show how good your wireless signal is
[03:40] <Baptiste> I am desperate, I can't understand why this fracking fglrx module doesn't work
[03:40] <Riyonuk> fracking :p
[03:40] <Some_Person> i am desperate, my dsl worked yesterday but not today
[03:40] <`rich> Some_Person, told un_operateur the error? or pasted it to the chan while he quite probably wasn't looking?
[03:41] <Some_Person> told
[03:41] <Baptiste> yea fracking Riyonuk i am polite
[03:41] <`rich> well i'm sure he's asking for it for a reason - not just to annoy you :P
[03:41] <Some_Person> i dont have the exact words, but its something like No Access Concentrator was found.
[03:41] <un_operateur> `rich, Some_Person -- i dont have PPPoE and therefore require some googling to do :)
[03:42] <POVaddct> Some_Person: is eth0 the only ethernet interface in your machine?
[03:42] <Some_Person> yes
[03:42] <kane77> is it possible to get beryl/compiz/xgl running on amd64??? for me it says there are no such packages... (I followed a how-to)
[03:42] <jaimeinside> hello!
[03:42] <Some_Person> i really dont want to reinstall since i reinstalled yesterday
[03:43] <SzArAk> hi
[03:43] <ken> Some_Person: what do the forums say?
[03:43] <dmc_> .
[03:43] <Some_Person> i'm looking
[03:43] <pro1> como fao pra entrar no chat em portugues Brasil
[03:43] <POVaddct> Some_Person: you could try to call pppoe manually just to see if it find the access concentrator: sudo pppoe -A -I eth0
[03:44] <Some_Person> ok
[03:44] <POVaddct> Some_Person: but i guess the resolt will be the same
[03:44] <POVaddct> *result
[03:44] <reiki_> kane77,  you might want to go to #beryl to get your beryl questions answered
[03:44] <Some_Person> probably
[03:44] <POVaddct> Some_Person: btw, the interface has to be "up"
[03:45] <POVaddct> Some_Person: sudo ifconfig eth0 up  (before running pppoe)
[03:45] <ken> PREFERENCES: beryl or compiz or something else, what do you prefer? and why?
[03:45] <rico> joyeuses fetes
[03:45] <reiki_> ken: on Edgy... beryl ... cause it's easy :)
[03:45] <Some_Person> it is up, i checked ifconfig
[03:45] <POVaddct> ken: i dont need that eyecandy stuff, just running plain xfce
[03:45] <rukuartic> Merry Christmas guys...
[03:45] <ken> POVaddct: way to go!
[03:46] <ken> rukuartic: same to you
[03:46] <ken> rukuartic: woke up late? after two days?
[03:46] <rico> slt
[03:46] <rico> a ts
[03:46] <ken> :)
[03:46] <rukuartic> Hey I'm wondering how I'd go about getting rid of the "autoremove" message on top of apt-get? I installed a large package... removed it later, but I want/need all the things installed. :P
[03:46] <Some_Person> i'll switch over and see if it can find it
[03:46] <rukuartic> Any way to get rid of the message?
[03:46] <neko_> I use gnome with kde apps. When switching workspaces(aka desktops) sometimes the kde apps will stay on both workspaces. This will only happen if the app is blinking. How is it possible to stop this?
[03:46] <reiki_> be right back.... gonna see if this clone to sdb1 worked....
[03:46] <rukuartic> ken: >P
[03:48] <ken> POVaddct: un_operateur: compengi: Where is the place to find happy/satisfied ubuntu users? Hanging out in this chatroom, and listening to peoples extremely specific and unique problems, which are so complicated makes me paranoid when i click anything in ubuntu, in the fear that something shall surely break
[03:48] <un_operateur> ken, #psychiatry maybe? :p
[03:49] <POVaddct> ken: well this is a support channel. its likely you see only people having some problem with ubuntu than people having none.
[03:49] <un_operateur> ken, this is the support channel -- #ubuntu-offtopic probably
[03:50] <ken> POVaddct: un_operateur: compengi: i messed up ubuntu and re-installed it 3 times in the last 15 days, this is the 3rd new installation. Is there some way to officially learn ubuntu, maybe some website, some wiki, something that you would recommend. Please be a little more specific other than saying ubuntu.com/help or /wiki or /community
[03:50] <ken> POVaddct: un_operateur: compengi: 'cuz hanging out in the chatroom is surely not helping :)
[03:50] <jori> anybody here know if ff can connect to a remote esd server and dump his flash player sound there... ?
[03:51] <un_operateur> ken, making those mistakes is crucial, the best way you learn, i for one had to reinstall linux a couple of times when i was starting out about 2/4 years ago
[03:51] <ken> jori: so annoyed with him? :)
[03:51] <un_operateur> 3/4*
[03:51] <POVaddct> ken: i'd say go buy a book about linux (or more specific about debian) and read it
[03:51] <jori> ken ?
[03:51] <ken> un_operateur: still my question remains unanswered
[03:51] <ken> :0
[03:52] <ken> POVaddct: Maybe a name? a publisher ? something a little more specific? :)
[03:52] <neko_> What's a good vidcap program for ubuntu? I can't remember the name of one.
[03:52] <rukuartic> ken: Can't be paranoid about things like this. Its like saying, I don't want to ride a bike cuz I might fall off.
[03:52] <un_operateur> ken, but that was only out of futility .. but soon enough you get to know enough that you try to fix things yourself by persevering .. thats the only real way you learn
[03:52] <POVaddct> ken: hmm, i am german so i know about german books. but that wont help you i guess.
[03:52] <justin_> For GRUB what would my hard drive on the second IDE channel (the one usually used for CDROM's) be? --- hd(1,0) ?
[03:52] <ken> rukuartic: un_operateur: POVaddct: compengi: Aint there a good website you could suggest?
[03:52] <reiki> ok, gentlemen, this may sound like an odd question but how do I find out if I am indeed running completely on sdb1 (and not anything from hda1 where this ddrive was cloned FROM)?
[03:53] <rukuartic> ken: ubuntforums.org
[03:53] <justin_> It is master on the second IDE channel.
[03:53] <un_operateur> ken, it takes time, the change isnt made overnight
[03:53] <rukuartic> reiki: Type in "mount" at the command line.
[03:53] <ken> POVaddct: German books would surely help, but first suggest a "learn german in 15 days" book and then the german-linux book :)
[03:53] <POVaddct> ken: :)
[03:53] <Some_Person> pppoe isnt even installed
[03:53] <rukuartic> reiki: It will list all the mount points, and where they're mounted. You'll want to see something along the lines of sdbX is mounted on /
[03:54] <ken> un_operateur: I too think that one can't site 2-3 nights and read everything and than know everything about linux, but still theres gottu be a beginning
[03:54] <Some_Person> im in windows again, and i'm gonna download it
[03:54] <ken> Some_Person: I really feel sorry for you, but please dont give up the effort
[03:54] <POVaddct> Some_Person: ah i forgot ubuntu does not use the userspace pppoe program
[03:54] <reiki> rukuartic, ok... it's running off hda1 and shows /dev/hda1 mounted as root. I suspect this is a result of the clone job. I probably have to hack fstab, right?
[03:54] <ChaosR> hi, can someone explain (or link to a tutorial) me how to let multiple programs play/record sound at the same time, because at the moment, this isn't working.
[03:54] <un_operateur> POVaddct, well, ubuntu is justa  distro, a compilation of different packages -- it's linux or gnome or whatever else that you want to be reading about
[03:55] <Some_Person> this is like my 5th reboot
[03:55] <POVaddct> un_operateur: i wasnt asking, ken was
[03:55] <Riyonuk> How do I remove flash or shockwave from my firefox? Its not listed in Add-Ons
[03:55] <un_operateur> oops, redirect that to ken .. lol sorry POVaddct :p
[03:55] <rukuartic> reiki: Yes probably. I'm not a complete knowledge on this one. You might want to try pulling out hda and boot off of that.
[03:55] <netdownload> Hi all, anyone can help me with the bluetooth?
[03:55] <justin_> Riyonuk, in your plugins folder.
[03:55] <pcb-dennis|nb> hi, can anybody help me getting aiglx/compiz running on intel/edgy
[03:55] <ken> un_operateur: linux in general
[03:55] <rukuartic> !aiglx
[03:55] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.
[03:55] <Some_Person> so, without pppoe, how was it working yesterday?
[03:55] <pike_> Riyonuk: /usr/lib/firefox/plugins i think offhand
[03:55] <pcb-dennis|nb> rukuartic, thx
[03:55] <rukuartic> pcb-dennis|nb: No prob ;P
[03:55] <POVaddct> Some_Person: ubuntu uses the kernel based pppoe for that
[03:56] <Riyonuk> yeah
[03:56] <Riyonuk> thanks
[03:56] <DENYeitan0o9> what text editors does ubuntu come with?
[03:56] <justin_> Hrmm is anyone familiar with the 'MAP' function in GRUB?
[03:56] <ken> DENYeitan0o9: a million dollar question :)
[03:56] <Some_Person> so, should i install pppoe from the repos?
[03:56] <POVaddct> Some_Person: but i dont know how to manually test pppoe without the pppoe program
[03:56] <SzArAk> DENYeitan0o9: simple vim, gedit for instance
[03:56] <rukuartic> Still looking for some help getting rid of apt-get mess... If anyone knows how to make apt think that I want the packages that it thinks I don't need anymore, let me know.
[03:56] <ken> Some_Person: without a internet the repos wont work
[03:56] <un_operateur> ken, maybe you'd like to browse the O'Reilly bookshelf -- pick up something about general linux administration first to start of with
[03:56] <justin_> If I map hd 0,1 to 1,0 and vice versa, will it effect only my windows HDD or will it also affect my Ubuntu disk?
[03:56] <Some_Person> i mean go to them on the web in windows and download it
[03:56] <x-factor> !mp3
[03:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:56] <POVaddct> Some_Person: maybe. i never had the problem you have. pppoe just works for me.
[03:56] <rukuartic> DENYeitan0o9: It also should come with "nano", which is easier to run for some people.
[03:57] <justin_> Nano rocks.
[03:57] <justin_> :)
[03:57] <Some_Person> ok, i've downloaded it, time for reboot number 6
[03:57] <Riyonuk> Seem to be having "issues". I run, in a terminal, nm-applet, and it starts the little thing in my notification area. The moment I quit the terminal, so does the little thing. Why is this?
[03:57] <libervisco> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/terminal.app_0.9.4+cvs20051125-2_i386.deb (--install):  trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/Terminal', which is also in package xfce4-terminal
[03:57] <libervisco> Any ideas on resolving that?
[03:57] <ken> un_operateur: and all i wanted to do was have a 'change' in my OS, and i ended up having a whole new schedul to learn linux, couldn't the ubuntu site have a WARNING/CAUTION sign on its website, stating clearly the eventualities that would follow after installing the so-called frinedly OS? :)
[03:58] <ChaosR> plz, someone, ask me more information if you need it
[03:58] <rukuartic> Riyonuk: Whenever you run an applet in the terminal, it dies out with the terminal.
[03:58] <Condiment> you tell me
[03:58] <rukuartic> Riyonuk: You can get around this by putting the process in the background...
[03:58] <ken> ChaosR: about what?
[03:58] <Riyonuk> So how do I get back to running at startup
 hi, can someone explain (or link to a tutorial) me how to let multiple programs play/record sound at the same time, because at the moment, this isn't working.
[03:58] <Riyonuk> rukuartic, how?
[03:58] <rukuartic> Riyonuk: Try pressing Ctrl + z, (puts process in suspended state) and then typing "bg"
[03:59] <reiki> ok fstab has the UUID stuff in it. How do I find out the UUID for sdb1 ?
[03:59] <pucko-> reiki, vol_id
[03:59] <un_operateur> ken, I just think you're overwhelmed by a sudden transition, being in a new environment, etc etc -- but that happens on windows when you try out 2000/XP after being used to win9x for years
[03:59] <ken> rukuartic: Is there A linux website with noob-friendly tutorials that you know of?
[03:59] <rukuartic> Riyonuk: I have a simple shell script to do that though, when I want to start a program like that I make a script in /usr/bin that goes something along the lines of "/usr/bin/programtorun &" where the & puts it in the background
[03:59] <ken> un_operateur: :-|
[03:59] <un_operateur> ken, just go with the flow, i'd say, you'll be fine
[04:00] <rukuartic> ken: ubuntuforums.org, wiki.ubuntu.com
[04:00] <POVaddct> !basiccommands
[04:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about basiccommands - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:00] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> ken ,u looking tutorails for?
[04:00] <Riyonuk> Yeah but it first started to do it automatically, and then I messed around with the gnome panels :p
[04:00] <POVaddct> !cli
[04:00] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[04:00] <rukuartic> ken: The thing is, Ubuntu isn't really something you can learn to use by reading a book.
[04:00] <un_operateur> ken, well, what do you want us to do? eh? cast a magic spell that gets you linux-comfy in 5 minutes??
[04:00] <DENYeitan0o9> how to change a file to not be read only from the terminal?
[04:00] <ken> rukuartic: that was the only two websites i didn't know about :-)
[04:00] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> ken ., http://ubuntuguide.org here too ....
[04:00] <rukuartic> ken: Seriously?
[04:00] <POVaddct> ken: you could start reading the BasicCommands page ubotu just pasted
[04:00] <ken> un_operateur: If you can, i would sure like to do that
[04:00] <Riyonuk> rukuartic, so what exactly do I type? nm-applet bg?
[04:00] <ken> rukuartic: notice the smiley after that statement :)
[04:01] <ChaosR> now, can someone help me with this, or is it a problem that can't be helped
[04:01] <reiki> pucko-,  apparently you can't use vol_id while the volume is open :)
[04:01] <rukuartic> Riyonuk: No, more like "nm-applet &", or "nm-applet", then "ctrl+z" and then type "bg"
[04:01] <un_operateur> ken, but it is a no-go .. so, you gotta do what we all did and just stick with it :)
[04:01] <rukuartic> ken: Ah. I'm not too swift with sarcasm :(
[04:01] <DENYeitan0o9> how can i save a read-only file using nano?
[04:01] <POVaddct> reiki: tune2fs -l /dev/...
[04:01] <ken> GreyGhost-Ubuntu: Here, i messed up ubuntu and re-installed it 3 times in the last 15 days, this is the 3rd new installation. Is there some way to officially learn ubuntu, maybe some website, some wiki, something that you would recommend. Please be a little more specific other than saying ubuntu.com/help or /wiki or /community
[04:01] <rukuartic> DENYeitan0o9: Remove Read Only, or save as a different file.
[04:01] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> ummm...... my onboard graphichs driver guy gives me a link to xfree86 cvs repo ... am i supposed to compile it?
[04:01] <DENYeitan0o9> how can i remove read only??
[04:02] <DENYeitan0o9> from the terminal
[04:02] <un_operateur> ken, i give up -- you aren't taking in what we are trying to say to you
[04:02] <LinTux> I have 252 files with invalid filnames in trash, I am unable to delete them, anybody know how?
[04:02] <rukuartic> DENYeitan0o9: chmod u+w (filename)
[04:02] <rukuartic> DENYeitan0o9: Do you understand Linux File permissions?
[04:02] <neko_> DENYeitan0o9: chmod a-r filename
[04:02] <ken> un_operateur: i am looking out for a easy way, but i believe none exists
[04:02] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> ken , how exactly did u mess it up? find the cause of it and learn how to do it properly.....
[04:02] <ken> un_operateur: Is asking for a shortcut wrong? But i take your advice and will 'go with the flow'
[04:03] <un_operateur> ken, ever try learning to ride a bike or learn to swim??
[04:03] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> ken ,Ubuntu isn't a software package... its an OS like Win ... u learn as u go ... and not throguh books....
[04:03] <rukuartic> ken: Tried looking for "Official Ubuntu Book" on amazon?
[04:03] <un_operateur> ken, are there shortcuts when learning to drive a car or ride a unicycle??
[04:03] <huffy> i cant install 6.10 on my acer aspire 9504 laptop? :(
[04:03] <ken> un_operateur: no, sir! <salutes>
[04:03] <ChaosR> ken: start with learning the basics of *NIX
[04:03] <ken> rukuartic: Yeah i bought that
[04:03] <ken> ChaosR: ok
[04:04] <rukuartic> huffy: :( When I bought my laptop, I took a LiveCD with me and tried out the laptops until I found one I liked.
[04:04] <un_operateur> ken, well, there you go -- just stick with it, depending on your mileage -- you'll pick things up soon enough
[04:04] <reiki> hmmm tune2fs: Permission denied while trying to open /dev/sdb1
[04:04] <reiki> Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock.
[04:04] <ChaosR> ken: it helped me a lot
[04:04] <DENYeitan0o9> ok i cant change permissions on passwd...and I need to edit that file to log into ubuntu...
[04:04] <reiki> that could be a problem, huh? :)
[04:04] <huffy> rukuartic is it the ati drivers?
[04:04] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> huffy ,error or somehing?
[04:04] <rukuartic> ken: We're a friendly group. Try going into #slackware
[04:04] <ChaosR> someone here that can explain me how to let multiple programs use the sound at the same time, or is this impossible????
[04:04] <kbrooks> wow.
[04:05] <rukuartic> huffy: I have no clue what might be the problem... It could be a lot of things.
[04:05] <huffy> no, it comes up to install, i get past that, then bout 1min later, the screen goes blank, and thats it
[04:05] <ChaosR> !sound
[04:05] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[04:05] <rukuartic> ChaosR: I found a quick and easy solution that might work for you is to run programs with "aoss"... try installing the package "alsa-oss" and the running commands like "aoss firefox". But check with ubotu's solution first.
[04:05] <ken> un_operateur: GreyGhost-Ubuntu: ChaosR: compengi: rukuartic: POVaddct: I much appreciate your effort in helping a confused-ubuntu user. Keep the community alive, and thank you! Happy UBUNT-ing, bye!
[04:05] <reiki> can I just edit fstab on sdb1 so that it uses the old /dev/... pointers intead of the UUID stuff?
[04:05] <ken> rukuartic: I am heading to there :)
[04:06] <rukuartic> ken: I was being sarcastic...
[04:06] <Viaken> ken: The easiest way to learn it is just to play with it. Fixing problems, too, can teach you more than you'd expect.
[04:06] <compengi> ken, you're welcome merry christmas
[04:06] <huffy> would 6.06 work on acers?
[04:06] <ken> rukuartic: You didn't get the joke, i too gave a sarcastic reply, dont you notice the smiley in my replies? :)
[04:06] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> ken ,i 'm a newbie user myself ... just tryin my hand stuff....
[04:06] <un_operateur> ken, keep the happy UBUNT-ing up .. you'll be a UBUNTU jedi soon enough :)
[04:06] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> and coming in here to bug everyone when i hit a snag ;)
[04:06] <DENYeitan0o9> ok i cant change permissions on etc/passwd...and I need to edit that file to log into ubuntu...
[04:06] <ken> compengi: Yeah Merry Christmas
[04:07] <rukuartic> huffy: You could try searching for your laptop on the ubuntu forums, and see if people have any comments there
[04:07] <huffy> k thx
[04:07] <ken> un_operateur: :)
[04:07] <rukuartic> DENYeitan0o9: Oh, you don't want to change those permissions.
[04:07] <delcoyote> hi all, merry xmas and happy new year is edgy eft the latest version of ubuntu?
[04:07] <rukuartic> DENYeitan0o9: You need to edit it as root. Try this... "sudo nano /etc/passwd"
[04:07] <pike_> DENYeitan0o9: dont do that.  at grub prompt edit ther kernel line and pu like "init=/bin/sh"  then boot then mount -o remount /  and edit it or something
[04:07] <huffy> yup
[04:08] <Viaken> huffy: Best to put your model name/number into the forum search and see what comes up.
[04:08] <pike_> DENYeitan0o9: sorry what rukuartic said will work as well
[04:08] <DENYeitan0o9> yeah
[04:08] <DENYeitan0o9> it workd
[04:08] <DENYeitan0o9> thanks!
[04:08] <rukuartic> pike_: haha what were you doing? O_o; does that give you a shell as root?
[04:09] <pike_> yeah
[04:09] <huffy> ive found someone tested 9502 with 6.06 Neg127?
[04:09] <rukuartic> pike_: Spiffy security problem.
[04:09] <Some_Person> ok, i installed pppoe in ubuntu, and i tried to detect the access concentrator but i got: "pppoe: Timeout waiting for PADO packets"
[04:09] <POVaddct> Some_Person: i expected that...
[04:09] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> theres a file called imakefile is that the same as makefile ?
[04:09] <pike_> rukuartic: handy for the likes of me though
[04:09] <Some_Person> so now what?
[04:10] <delcoyote> it must be thanks for the info
[04:10] <LinTux> I have 252 files with invalid filnames in trash, I am unable to delete them, anybody know how?
[04:10] <POVaddct> Some_Person: i really dont know... your dsl modem is connected to the computers ethernet interface? or is it connected via usb?
[04:10] <light_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1934003
[04:10] <Some_Person> ethernet
[04:10] <rambo3> em -rf .Trash/*
[04:11] <rambo3> rm
[04:11] <POVaddct> Some_Person: and in windows it just works?
[04:11] <Some_Person> yep, in xp and vista
[04:11] <Some_Person> well, i had to put in the DNS servers manually
[04:11] <POVaddct> Some_Person: and you didnt change the ubuntu system since yesterday?
[04:11] <rambo3> LinTux, rm -rf ~.Trash/*
[04:12] <maynar1> Hello all
[04:12] <Some_Person> unless you count installing a bunch of gstreamer plugins, no
[04:12] <Viaken> LinTux: rambo3 has your answer
[04:12] <POVaddct> Some_Person: installing gstreamer should not change pppoe dial up
[04:12] <Erb_> How do I make it so that all movies open externally with MPlayer from within Firefox?
[04:12] <Some_Person> i know
[04:12] <Viaken> ah...he addressed the message. How did I miss that? :P
[04:13] <LinTux> rambo3: No still their m8?
[04:13] <pike_> rukuartic: if you try that i forgot the rw to remount rw
[04:13] <rambo3> LinTux, use sudo
[04:13] <Some_Person> should i just reinstall (again)?
[04:13] <POVaddct> Some_Person: when it worked yesterday, did you really configure pppoe or dhcp? some dsl modems act as a router and have dhcp server running
[04:14] <LinTux> Rambo3: still bleeding their,
[04:14] <Some_Person> not sure, i used pppoeconf
[04:14] <ChaosR> rukuartic: actually which 'file' in /dev is for alsamixer
[04:14] <maynar1> Does anyone have time to help with getting remote x applications to work using AMD64 live CD?
[04:14] <ChaosR> alsa*
[04:14] <rukuartic> pike_: Hey... would you happen to know how I could get rid of apt-get's going "ROFL You don't need these packages!!"
[04:14] <rambo3> LinTux,
[04:14] <rambo3> sudo -i
[04:14] <morena> hola
[04:14] <POVaddct> Some_Person: you mean you used pppoeconf and it worked?
[04:14] <Some_Person> yes
[04:14] <rukuartic> maynar1: Yup. Install openssh-server, and then use "ssh -x user@host"
[04:14] <rukuartic> Some_Person: Congratulations :3
[04:15] <Some_Person> it wont work now
[04:15] <rambo3>  cd /home/*/.Trash
[04:15] <rambo3> rm -rf *
[04:15] <POVaddct> Some_Person: i have to go, just a quick try: sudo dhclient3 eth0    (instead of pppoeconf)
[04:15] <rambo3> if you are only user
[04:15] <Some_Person> ok
[04:15] <maynar1> rukuartic: Thanks.  ssh must be installed locally as I'm already logged in to the remote machine.
[04:15] <Some_Person> reboot number 8
[04:16] <maynar1> rukuartic: I'll try the -x and then read ssh man pages thanks
[04:16] <rukuartic> maynar1: :P No problem.
[04:16] <juana> hey
[04:16] <rukuartic> juana: Hi
[04:16] <juana> alguien me puede ayudar?
[04:16] <LinTux> Rambo3: these files are a nightmare, I have even reinstalled and they are still their
[04:16] <rukuartic> juana: Se habla Espaniol?
[04:17] <rambo3> i hope you are not taling about .. and .
[04:17] <juano> hello everyone
[04:17] <Riyonuk> How can I compact the Ubuntu menu? The Applications, Places, System..
[04:17] <rukuartic> !es > juana
[04:18] <rukuartic> juano: Hey
[04:18] <juana> hey http://www.fotolog.com/seaman
[04:18] <juana> hey
[04:18] <jori> anybody here know if ff can connect to a remote esd server and dump his flash player sound there... ?
[04:18] <rukuartic> Riyonuk: I remember seeing something about the Alacarte Menu Editor...
[04:19] <Riyonuk> hmm
[04:19] <rukuartic> Seveas: You're fast :O But you don't just sit here and watch the screen do you?
[04:19] <neko_> I use gnome with kde apps. When switching workspaces(aka desktops) sometimes the kde apps will stay on both workspaces. This will only happen if the app is blinking. How is it possible to stop this?
[04:19] <dmc_> Anyone know offhand if Ubuntu supports Dynex Wireless Usb adapters?
[04:19] <LinTux> Rambo3: I installed Fedora and they where not in trash, so I reloaded Ubuntu and they are back again?
[04:19] <monelli> big problems with ubuntu
[04:20] <Riyonuk> rukuartic, it says "Alacarte is now only available as a part of the GNOME desktop, beginning with GNOME 2.16."
[04:20] <rambo3> jori , no
[04:20] <rukuartic> Riyonuk: Are you on KDE?
[04:20] <monelli> im switching back to windows
[04:20] <rambo3> !flex2 > jori
[04:20] <jori> rambo3: no like its imposibel or no like nobody knows ?
[04:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flex2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:20] <kkfoxcc> hi every one i need help plz
[04:20] <rukuartic> monelli: Sorry to hear that. What was the issue?
[04:21] <tovella> monelli: why?
[04:21] <monelli> ubuntu wont let me login as root
[04:21] <kkfoxcc> i can not update the kernel
[04:21] <tovella> monelli: yeah it will.
[04:21] <kkfoxcc> plz i need help
[04:21] <monelli> it will?
[04:21] <rukuartic> monelli: Oh you can still do that. All you need to do is type "sudo passwd root"
[04:21] <rambo3> jori as you statade qestioon it is not posible, heck i cant upload files with my flash  becouse of securty
[04:21] <reiki> ok... edited fstab, corrected the UUIDs in it to reflect the sata drive rather than the IDE drive.... gonna reboot and see if this worked...
[04:21] <tovella> monelli: you have to change the root password.
[04:22] <Sarge> I can run exec
[04:22] <Sarge> I cant run exec
[04:22] <monelli> no....i dont want to su to root i want to login as root
[04:22] <z6p0> Hello
[04:22] <Riyonuk> rukuartic, Im on gnome
[04:22] <rukuartic> monelli: Yes. Login as a regular user, and type "sudo passwd root"
[04:22] <tovella> monelli: login as a user with administrator rights and type "sudo passwd"
[04:22] <jori> rambo3: you're talking about upload in talking about esd sound tuneling :S a you did't get te qeustion b i don't know where the hell you're talking about...
[04:22] <kkfoxcc> kernel panic
[04:22] <pike_> monelli: you just need to set a password for the root account to use it. its still there just "inactive"
[04:22] <rukuartic> Riyonuk: So you don't have the menu editor installed?
[04:23] <rukuartic> Riyonuk: You should just be able to press "Alt-F2" and type in "alacarte"
[04:23] <Sarge> Cant run an executable I get Couldn't Display error
[04:23] <Riyonuk> rukuartic, well I do, but I dont want to edit the menus, I want to make it so where Appplications, Places, and Systems arent there, just the ubuntu logo
[04:23] <z6p0> Can anyone help me about my TV output on my nvidia GPU ?
[04:24] <rukuartic> Riyonuk: Right click the ubuntu thing, click remove. Then right click, hit "Add", and sellect "Main Menu"
[04:24] <mrmist> Hi all
[04:24] <rukuartic> mrmist: Hey :3
[04:24] <mrmist> I've got a problem with castle-combat...
[04:24] <Riyonuk> rukuartic, thanks :)
[04:25] <rukuartic> Riyonuk: No problem :D
[04:25] <mrmist> seems it restarts Gnome whenever I try to start it
[04:25] <Riyonuk> rukuartic, I bet you get a kick out of helping noobs :p
[04:25] <mrmist> The screen goes black, and then gnome restarts..
[04:25] <rambo3> jori i answerd you uts not  posible , need more info google
[04:26] <rukuartic> Riyonuk: Haha. You could say that. I just like Ubuntu so much :D
[04:26] <Sarge> is there really a problem helping the unexperienced, like me. I've never used a day in my life
[04:26] <Riyonuk> Yeah me too
[04:26] <rukuartic> mrmist: You might try running it in a terminal window to catch error output... EG: "user@host:~$ castle-combat > errorlog"
[04:26] <jori> oke othere 1 then is there anyway to setup a ltsp server to use the clients dsp's ?
[04:26] <rukuartic> mrmist: When you log back in there should be an error file in your home directory.
[04:27] <warty> i got prob with USB
[04:27] <warty> actually i'm using ... uBuntu liveCD
[04:27] <warty> and .. My USB can't be detect
[04:27] <warty> how to mount dev??
[04:28] <rukuartic> warty: Is it a media card like compact flash?
[04:28] <ChaosR> rukuartic: not what i ment
[04:28] <Sarge> is there really a problem helping the unexperienced, like me. I've never used a day in my life
[04:28] <Sarge> Cant run an executable I get Couldn't Display error
[04:28] <warty> nope ... it's Thumbdrive..
[04:28] <Sarge> oops my bad didnt mean to say that one again
[04:28] <warty> Sarge ... : are u sarge from Putera.com?
[04:29] <Sarge> nope
[04:29] <maynar1> rukuartic: Still having problems with X.  Tried -X and -Y.  Triple checked that DISPLAY is set correctly on the remote machine.
[04:29] <warty> But my .. Memstick form PSP.. connect with USB .. can detect
[04:29] <mrmist> rukuartic: hmm... what file ? Do you know the filename ?
[04:29] <ChaosR> rukuartic: i mean, like i have amarok (using ALSA) and GNOME, also using also, when i listen to music using amarok, GNOME won't be able to play sounds
[04:29] <rukuartic> warty: You could try looking in dev for things labeled something like sdb or hdb...
[04:29] <ChaosR> alsa*
[04:29] <rukuartic> maynar1: Were you using -X or -x?
[04:29] <Some_Person> still wont work, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39013/
[04:29] <warty> just only ... USB thumdrive cant detect
[04:29] <warty> -x
[04:29] <maynar1> rukuartic: capital X
[04:30] <ChaosR> rukuartic or anyone else: do you know a way to fix this
[04:30] <rukuartic> ChaosR: Mmm... Soooounds like you're using OSS instead of alsa. Try working with Alsa.... Ubuntu said something to you when you typed !sound
[04:30] <rukuartic> maynar1: I think its supposed to be lowercase.
[04:30] <Pensa`MIA> when I try to compile something I get this: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[04:30] <Pensa`MIA> how to fix this?
[04:30] <Riyonuk> Yeah..what would be the equvilanet of right click > refresh in ubuntu?
[04:30] <ChaosR> rukuartic: no OSS here, everything is using ALSA
[04:30] <ChaosR> !sound
[04:30] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[04:31] <rukuartic> ChaosR: That second link Ubotu sent might be of more help than I am.
[04:32] <rukuartic> maynar1: I'm wrong on that, hold up...
[04:32] <maynar1> rukuartic: Tried both.  I think the problem is that I'm manually setting the DISPLAY
[04:32] <maynar1> rukuartic: man pages say let ssh do it :/
[04:33] <rukuartic> maynar1: Tried letting ssh set it?
[04:33] <maynar1> rukuartic: doing it now
[04:33] <rukuartic> ChaosR: I remember having problems like that a while back... are you on < 6.06?
[04:34] <ChaosR> rukuartic: installed this one 12 days go, newest iso, installed all updates, so, no
[04:34] <VincentMX> hi
[04:35] <VincentMX> i have installed apache2 and php, but now when i load pages, i sometimes get a timeout error
[04:35] <wsk170> /q
[04:35] <Milos_SD>  hello all... I have a problem with AIGLX and beryl on Ubuntu Dapper
[04:35] <VincentMX> any ideas what to do about this?
[04:35] <rukuartic> ChaosR: Ouch. I'm sorry man, I'm not real good on sound problems.
[04:35] <Milos_SD> beryl does not start
[04:35] <Milos_SD> everything on the screen is mesed up
[04:35] <Milos_SD> and, when I type beryl-manager in ALT+F2, it log me out...
[04:35] <rukuartic> Milos_SD: You might find more help in #ubuntu-glx (I think)
[04:36] <ChaosR> rukuartic: which file is for ALSA, i'll try to manually set it to ALSA, to make absolutly sure it is using ALSA
[04:36] <VincentMX> wasn't it #ubuntu-xgl?
[04:36] <Milos_SD> yes... #ubuntu-xgl
[04:36] <rukuartic> VincentMX: Correct. My mistake!
[04:36] <dmc_> Anyone know offhand if Ubuntu supports Dynex Wireless Usb adapters?
[04:36] <VincentMX> :)
[04:36] <rukuartic> Milos_SD: See what VincentMX Said.
[04:37] <Rome0> hi
[04:37] <rukuartic> ChaosR: I've had problems with some programs not using ALSA... You said its amarok and gnome right? Try installing "alsa-oss" (apt-get install alsa-oss) and running amarok with "aoss amarok"
[04:37] <ChaosR> rukuartic: nevermind, altough it was set to ALSA it was still using OSS
[04:37] <ChaosR> weird
[04:37] <rukuartic> ChaosR: Alternatively, make sure that Amarok's using Alsa.
[04:37] <Riyonuk> What would be the proper way to install flash without it crashing my Firefox?
[04:37] <maynar1> rukuartic: Letting ssh set DISPLAY and using -X (uppercase) did the trick.  Kind of disappointing since I just wrote a script to automatically configure DISPLAY when logging in from a windows machine using PuTTY.
[04:38] <Some_Person> please help me with my dsl that worked yesterday
[04:38] <rukuartic> ChaosR: Haha :P Worst case if you ever get programs that won't use anything BUT OSS, you can use aoss.
[04:38] <LinuxHelp> Anyways, I was wondering, caus' I'm setting up a network boot via pxe an' all, where would I find the pxegrub stage 2 i386 binary? Caus' I think it's supposed to be in /boot/grub/ but its not there, there are only the other types of boot loaders. And I've done an "apt-cache search pxe" but nothing to do with grub came up. Which stage2 should I use for PXE booting? /boot/grub/stage2 ?
[04:38] <regel> Riyonuk: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[04:38] <DENYeitan0o9> i cant "add/remove" programs anymore as any login I try...
[04:38] <maynar1> rukuartic: Thanks for the help.
[04:38] <XitroX> does anybody know where i can get help for thunderbird?
[04:38] <Sarge> Cant run an executable I get Couldn't Display error
[04:38] <XitroX> on freenode
[04:38] <rukuartic> maynar1: No problem :P
[04:38] <Some_Person> XitroX: irc.mozilla.org #thunderbird
[04:38] <ChaosR> hmm
[04:39] <Riyonuk> regel, Package flashplugin-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another package
[04:39] <ChaosR> rukuartic: now i've found the real problem
[04:39] <VincentMX> i have installed Apache2 and PHP5 but when i browse the web or otherwise connect to servers, i sometimes get timeout errors.
[04:39] <XitroX> thx! Some_Person
[04:39] <VincentMX> any ideas?
[04:39] <rukuartic> ChaosR: Mmm?
[04:39] <Rome0> vincentmx: check your proxy settings?
[04:39] <DENYeitan0o9> howq can i make a user Im logged in as have administrative privelages
[04:39] <Sarge> Cant run an executable I get Couldn't Display error
[04:39] <ChaosR> rukuartic: in the sound setting it's set to ALSA but using OSS, i've set it to OSS, and back to ALSA, and everything works :D
[04:39] <rukuartic> VincentMX: You could try #apache, an idea.
[04:39] <stjepan> will XGL be merged into Xorg?
[04:40] <VincentMX> Rome0: i don't have any proxy server
[04:40] <Some_Person> why wont my dsl work in ubuntu? it worked yesterday
[04:40] <LinuxHelp> I've already asked on #grub but they were like: <wobster> LinuxHelp, ubuntu -> #ubuntu
[04:40] <Rome0> vincentmx: just an idea :)
[04:40] <rukuartic> DENYeitan0o9: Mmm, not sure. Lemme look.
[04:40] <regel> Riyonuk: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[04:40] <rukuartic> ChaosR: Horay!
[04:41] <ChaosR> rukuartic: anyway, thanks
[04:41] <LinuxHelp> So I'm thinking that since I've started using ubuntu, I've become an outcast to all non-ubuntu linux users..
[04:41] <rukuartic> DENYeitan0o9: What I can suggest, is adding a line to /etc/sudoers that will give the user permission to use /usr/sbin/synaptic
[04:41] <Sarge125> Can't run executables get a Couldn't Display error, please help
[04:41] <maynar1> Bye all. Thanks again rukuartic.
[04:41] <rukuartic> Oh goodness O_o
[04:41] <VincentMX> Rome0: i can't afford a proxy server
[04:41] <LinuxHelp> lol
[04:42] <VincentMX> so the point is
[04:42] <Rome0> lol
[04:42] <rukuartic> Seveas: How do you do that?
[04:42] <DENYeitan0o9> the thing is that with my login now, I cant add/remove programs
[04:42] <Seveas> rukuartic, evil script
[04:42] <Viaken> LinuxHelp: I'm a gentoo user and still like you. :D
[04:42] <DENYeitan0o9> can i login as an administrator and then change my user login that way?
[04:42] <pianoboy3333> What's a good alternative to mencoder? I need to string four VOB files together, and encode them into one AVI, and I have to start encoding like 10min into the first VOB, and stop 2min in the fourth/last VOB I've been having trouble doing this with mencoder, what could be an alternative program?
[04:42] <rukuartic> DENYeitan0o9: Wait, for another user, or the first one you created?
[04:42] <VincentMX> i can't connect to other server, while im hosting something?
[04:43] <rukuartic> Seveas: Teach me your ways oh master.
[04:43] <DENYeitan0o9> the first one I created
[04:43] <Sarge125> Can't run executables get a Couldn't Display error, please help
[04:43] <DENYeitan0o9> i cant add/remove programs
[04:43] <Sarge125> Am I a unique case or something?
[04:43] <rukuartic> Sarge125: Your question doesn't make sense...
[04:43] <rukuartic> Sarge125: Explain to us what you're doing...
[04:44] <rukuartic> DENYeitan0o9: What happens when you try to add/remove programs?
[04:44] <Sarge125> what you mean it doesnt make sense thats it straight i cant run exec's! i get an error saying Couldn't display "file location"
[04:44] <chrissturm> whats a recommended tool to backup my files?
[04:44] <Seveas> rukuartic, I won't teach people to write obnoxious scripts, sorry
[04:44] <DENYeitan0o9> its not in my menu
[04:44] <DENYeitan0o9> and i cant add users anymore
[04:44] <stjepan> will XGL be merged into Xorg?
[04:44] <warpzero> is there any way to install ubuntu from inside another os
[04:44] <Sarge125> i double click the exec's icon and then i get the error
[04:44] <rukuartic> Seveas: Your autoban is an obnoxious script? O_o;
[04:45] <Seveas> yes
[04:45] <stjepan> heya Seveas
[04:45] <rukuartic> DENYeitan0o9: Open up a terminal and type "sudo -i" and see if you can login as root.
[04:45] <stjepan> Seveas, do you use beryl/compiz?
[04:45] <rukuartic> Seveas: Ah :P.... <sigh> I wish I was l33t like Seveas
[04:45] <Seveas> stjepan, no
[04:46] <Seveas> stjepan, xgl is evil and will die
[04:46] <anto> Heya can somone help me ?
[04:46] <Seveas> xorg has aiglx
[04:46] <knapp> How do I burn a DVD Video using k3b? I can't find the option...
[04:46] <DENYeitan0o9> ok i logged in successfully i think
[04:46] <stjepan> Seveas, AIGLX is not a replacement to XGL
[04:46] <superdau> hi
[04:46] <Seveas> stjepan, I know
[04:46] <DENYeitan0o9> but there still isnt an add/remove in the menu
[04:46] <anto> i got a problem when compiling my server, it says that it cannot find a file (lua.h)  witch is located in /usr/include/lib5.1/lua.h  how do i make it link to the configure file :S?
[04:46] <rukuartic> DENYeitan0o9: You should see "root@place:~#"... do you see that?
[04:47] <Seveas> aiglx is a better design to achive the same functionality
[04:47] <DENYeitan0o9> oh
[04:47] <DENYeitan0o9> no
[04:47] <DENYeitan0o9> its still my login name
[04:47] <rukuartic> DENYeitan0o9: What happens when you type "sudo -i" in the terminal?
[04:47] <DENYeitan0o9> it asked for a password
[04:47] <Sarge125> I guess Im just unlucky or something. right now this is my first linux and its leaving a bad impression
[04:47] <rukuartic> DENYeitan0o9: Type in your password.
[04:48] <finn> so who is going to win the race. aiglx  or xgl ?
[04:48] <DENYeitan0o9> i did
[04:48] <anto> i got a problem when compiling my server, it says that it cannot find a file (lua.h)  witch is located in /usr/include/lib5.1/lua.h  how do i make it link to the configure file :S?
[04:48] <Seveas> finn, aiglx is included in xorg
[04:48] <hastesaver> knapp, go to File->New Project->New Video DVD Project. But I think you have to do stuff manually; you might want to try qdvdauthor or something
[04:48] <rukuartic> Sarge125: Really, your question is slightly obscure. What program are you running, and what else does it print out in the terminal?
[04:48] <Seveas> xgl is an evil buggy hack on top of it
[04:48] <Seveas> you do the math
[04:48] <jbroome> man, the good thing about ignoring quits and joins in here, is i don't see it when someone dc c floods. :P
[04:48] <rukuartic> DENYeitan0o9: And it failed?
[04:48] <DENYeitan0o9> the prompt is eitank@eitank-laptop...
[04:48] <DENYeitan0o9> now when i type sudo -i it does nothing
[04:48] <finn> is aiglx already in the version of xorg which edgy uses?
[04:48] <DENYeitan0o9> no the pass worked
[04:48] <Seveas> finn, yes
[04:48] <reiki> question regarding grub. Specifically the root (hd0,0) part. I have 3 drives, 1 IDE and 2 SATA. How do I know how GRUB is seeing them so I can set the root properly in grub?
[04:49] <rukuartic> DENYeitan0o9: Ok so you're logged in as root now?
[04:49] <finn> so all I need is the nvidia drivers and a WM which supports the eyecandy stuff?
[04:49] <Seveas> reiki, look in /boot/grub/device.map
[04:49] <DENYeitan0o9> how can you tell?
[04:49] <opteek> i have a clean install of dapper and when I open some apps, such as Desktop Background, the buttons are filled in black until I move my mouse over them, at which point they become normal, while in other apps, such as System -> Keyboard, the buttons are fine from the start, anyone experienced this before?
[04:49] <Seveas> finn, indeed
[04:49] <DENYeitan0o9> the prompt is still my user name
[04:49] <reiki> Seveas, thank you once again
[04:49] <DENYeitan0o9> its not root@
[04:49] <finn> sounds good =)
[04:49] <jair> ls
[04:49] <jair> sorry
[04:50] <rukuartic> DENYeitan0o9: You might have messed up /etc/sudoers... were you editing that file at all?
[04:50] <Viaken> So what WMs support the eyecandy? Other than compiz/beryl?
[04:50] <Seveas> Viaken, none
[04:50] <DENYeitan0o9> no i didnt
[04:50] <Sarge125> what you mean by terminal, ok I download Steam linux dedicated server install exec.bin file. I double click it to exec it, I get a Couldn't Display "file location" error
[04:50] <DENYeitan0o9> i edited etc/passwd before
[04:50] <DENYeitan0o9> so that i could login
[04:50] <Viaken> Seveas: Ah...
[04:50] <rukuartic> Sarge125: Oh, are you on a 64 bit server?
[04:50] <reiki> Seveas, /boot/grub/device.map apparently only sees one sata drive. I can access all drives by mounting them... another idea?
[04:50] <Sarge125> no
[04:51] <rukuartic> Sarge125: Did you chmod the file +x?
[04:51] <Seveas> reiki, no other idea then to try it, keep a livecd nearby ;)
[04:51] <Sarge125> i have no clue what that means, this is my very first time with linux ive used windows my whole life
[04:51] <Seveas> reiki, in your bios it should say which device to boot first from
[04:51] <rukuartic> Sarge125: Do this. Press Alt+F2, and type in "gnome-terminal"
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[04:51] <reiki> Seveas, oh joy! hehehehe... thanks
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[04:51] -peesquad:#ubuntu- XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO
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[04:52] <Seveas> sorry for the inconvenience of not being able to talk
[04:52] <Seveas> we're riding out the bot attack
[04:53] <finn> hm
[04:53] <QwertyM> what's -r ?
[04:53] <Viaken> Aw...I was about to play with my mute-ness. XD
[04:53] <felixjet> registered users
[04:53] <Viaken> registered"
[04:53] <pike_> Sarge125: i dont use gnome but if you right click on it you should be able to go to properties or something youll notice some boxes that can be checked one should be x for executable. another way is to open a terminal and cd /home/username/Desktop the chmod +x filename.bin then ./filename.bin to run
[04:53] <felixjet> anyone know how can i create a menu for nautilus? i mean, when i right click a jpg image, i want a menu that "convers to bmp" and when click it, a script is load in that image.
[04:53] <Seveas> !register | QwertyM
[04:53] <ubotu> QwertyM: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[04:54] <Trixsey> Azureus from Ubuntu edgy repos is still broken?
[04:54] <finn> !nvidia
[04:54] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:54] <hastesaver> Trixsey, works fine for me
[04:54] <rukuartic> Seveas: Geez. You are an awesome admin... Where could I go to figure out some of this stuff?
[04:54] <reus> now that was fun
[04:54] <QwertyM> Seveas, oh ok, fine, got it :)
[04:54] <Seveas> rukuartic, the URL ubotu just posted
[04:54] <reus> hows makin the fun ?
[04:54] <hastesaver> Audacity from the repos is broken for me, though
[04:54] <pike_> Sarge125: in linux you can make any file executable but it has to be flagged as such
[04:55] <chrissturm> is there a backup solution in ubuntu main?
[04:55] <DENYeitan0o9> is there a way to install ubuntu over the old installation, but with preserving the winxp installation that's on the h-d as well?
[04:55] <rukuartic> pike_: Yeah that was his problem :P
[04:55] <fromvega> Hello
[04:55] <rukuartic> fromvega: Hey :3
[04:55] <hastesaver> chrissturm, amanda?
[04:55] <fromvega> I'm running Ubuntu Server, only with shell. How do I change its resolution?
[04:55] <philipsmith> I want to download and install "keytouch". I think that the programs are located at http://keytouch.sourceforge.net/dl-keytouch.php however, when I downloaded the gz file and tried to untar it, I got an error message that the file is not a tar file. Any help on how to install ketouch? Thanks!
[04:55] <Seveas> Burkaya, behave
[04:56] <Lathiat> philipsmith: which fil edid you download?
[04:56] <dmc_> Totem could not play 'file:///home/daniel/Music/SN-071-lq.mp3'.       Does not have codec.....Can anyone assist please?
[04:56] <Seveas> fromvega, in the kernel command line add vga=791
[04:56] <Lathiat> philipsmith: should just be able to get the "Ubuntu package" and double click on it to install with gdebi
[04:56] <Seveas> !mp3 | dmc_
[04:56] <ubotu> dmc_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:56] <opteek> i have a clean install of dapper and when I open some apps, such as Desktop Background, the buttons are filled in black until I move my mouse over them, at which point they become normal, while in other apps, such as System -> Keyboard, the buttons are fine from the start, anyone experienced this before?
[04:56] <Lathiat> philipsmith: alternative keytouch is available in the repos
[04:56] <Lathiat> philipsmith: just install it with synaptic/apt-get
[04:57] <borg> which gtk version does the synaptic package manager use?
[04:57] <dmc_> Saveas: So how can i play .mp3?
[04:57] <Peggerrr> I want to grep for a bunch of values and only output the ones that run a exit status of zero, what would the best way to do that be?
[04:57] <Lathiat> borg: gtk2
[04:57] <DENYeitan0o9> is there a way to install ubuntu over the old installation, but with preserving the winxp installation that's on the h-d as well?
[04:57] <Seveas> dmc_, look at what ubotu just said
[04:57] <fromvega> Seveas: how do I do that? where should I add it?
[04:57] <IdleOne> dmc_, follow that link that ubotu just gave you
[04:57] <dmc_> alright, thanks
[04:57] <Seveas> borg, 2.x (iirc 2.6 minimum)
[04:57] <philipsmith> Lthiat: Thanks for your reply. I downloaded both the deb and gz files. I double clicked on the gz file and get the message that it is a tar file. What is "repos"?
[04:57] <Seveas> fromvega, in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:58] <Seveas> rad the comments there
[04:58] <Seveas> read*
[04:58] <IdleOne> !repos | philipsmith
[04:58] <ubotu> philipsmith: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[04:58] <Lathiat> philipsmith: it means ubuntu can install it for you
[04:58] <fromvega> Seveas: do I need to reboot? is there a way so I do not need to reboot?
[04:58] <ChaosR> hmm, shall i write a better MP3 tutorial for ubotu, lot's of questions about them in here
[04:58] <Seveas> you'll ned to reboot
[04:58] <Lathiat> philipsmith: System->Administration->Package Management, search for "keytouch" click on the little icon lick install
[04:58] <Lathiat> is there an ubotu command for how to install a package?
[04:58] <Seveas> !install
[04:58] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[04:58] <Seveas> !deb
[04:58] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[04:58] <Seveas> !apt
[04:58] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[04:58] <Seveas> Lathiat, --^
[04:59] <Lathiat> !synaptic
[04:59] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[04:59] <Lathiat> thats the one i wanted
[04:59] <Seveas> :)
[04:59] <Lathiat> !synaptic | philipsmith
[04:59] <ubotu> philipsmith: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[04:59] <opteek> no one has ever heard of this? it's a fresh install
[04:59] <Lathiat> ubotu is too simple, it needs some xml ;)
[05:00] <Lathiat> <request article="synaptic"> | <object type="user" value="philipsmith">
[05:00] <Lathiat> ;p
[05:00] <Viaken> I have a tricky question. I upgraded to Feisty recently and it broke things. Is there a way to downgrade back to Edgy, or am I stick doing a reinstall? :P
[05:00] <philipsmith> Lathiat: I'm running Dapper. There is no "package management" tab under system > administration
[05:00] <Viaken> Changing the sources.list and "aptitude dist-upgrade" won't do it.
[05:01] <jpjacobs> !#ubuntu+1|Viaken
[05:01] <ubotu> Viaken: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[05:01] <IdleOne> philipsmith, yes ther is it is Called Synaptic. hit alt+f2 and type synaptic
[05:01] <gar-> how i can test that sendmail is working???
[05:02] <Viaken> jpjacobs: Ah. Sorry. :)
[05:02] <philipsmith> IdleOne: Yes, I use Synaptic frequently. keytouch is not in the list of packages. Do I need to add a repository?
[05:03] <IdleOne> philipsmith, have you added universe and multiverse repos?
[05:04] <Lathiat> !universe | philipsmith
[05:04] <ubotu> philipsmith: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:04] <pike_> Viaken: unfortunately stick it out for a while or reinstall if you check ubuntuforums there should be a guide for putting your /home on sep partition then you can reinstall and just point /home to existing space
[05:05] <IdleOne> philipsmith,  apt-cache search returns  package keytouch-editor
[05:05] <philipsmith> ubotu: I've got deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse in my sources.list file
[05:05] <opteek> !kqemu
[05:05] <ubotu> kqemu is non-free kernel module for speeding up the !QEMU virtual machine. Installation instructions can be found at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/KQEmu - see also !qvm86
[05:05] <Ricardo_Ram> I need to report a BIG BUG of K/Ubuntu..!!!
[05:05] <Ricardo_Ram> Where can I report it??
[05:06] <jbroome> !bugs
[05:06] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[05:06] <borg> cause i have this theme i just downloaded from gnome-look and every other window except the synaptic package manager and the update package manager doesnt use it
[05:06] <nolimitsoya> if i have a series of commands saved in a textfile, separated by '&&'s, and would like to execute those without having to open the file, write them down and type them, how would i do that?
[05:06] <Ricardo_Ram> There is a big problem in Ubuntu with the USB Flash Drives.
[05:06] <IdleOne> philipsmith, in terminal type sudo aptitude install keytouch-editor
[05:06] <Ricardo_Ram> 
[05:06] <Ricardo_Ram> When the user deletes files in an USB Flash Drive, Ubuntu creates a "Trash Bin" (called " .Trash1000) that uses a lot of space.
[05:06] <Ricardo_Ram> 
[05:06] <Ricardo_Ram> This "Trash Bin" is invisible in Linux, but in can be viewed in Microsoft Windows. An screenshot of this "Trash Bin" is available here. If an user deletes a file in an USB Pen Drive should be deleted definitively.
[05:06] <Ricardo_Ram> 
[05:06] <Ricardo_Ram> Yours truly,
[05:06] <Ricardo_Ram> 
[05:06] <Ricardo_Ram> Ricardo Ramrez
[05:06] <Seveas> sigh
[05:06] <Seveas> flooding idiots
[05:07] <jbroome> Seveas: the internet is hard
[05:07] <PasiC> hi folks
[05:07] <rukuartic> Seveas: Was he really being a problem though, or just a nub?
[05:07] <Seveas> jbroome, steel is harder
[05:07] <pike_> nolimitsoya: you mean turn the text file into a script?
[05:07] <borg> cause i have this theme i just downloaded from gnome-look and every other window except the synaptic package manager and the update package manager doesnt use it
[05:07] <Seveas> rukuartic, flooding == problem
[05:07] <nolimitsoya> pike_, yes :)
[05:07] <gar-> how do i know that sendmail is working????
[05:07] <PasiC> is a Hungarian guy there?
[05:07] <jbroome> gar-: umm, you can send mail?
[05:08] <hastesaver> chrissturm, you might also want to look at dar
[05:08] <jpjacobs> gar-, dunno, send a mail? or read the manual?
[05:08] <gar-> jbroome trying from the website and i dont recieved any email
[05:08] <gar-> and my php.ini is configure properly
[05:08] <philipsmith> IdleOne: Thanks. That seemed to install something. However, when I entered "keytouch" and "keytouch-editor" on the command line, nothing happens. Should I expect a gui?
[05:08] <pike_> nolimitsoya: the first line will be the path to your shell of choice like: #!/bin/bash  then then next lines as long as they work in the terminal should be fine. then chmod +x textfilename and you should be able to execute it
[05:08] <jbroome> troubleshooting sendmail may be too much for this channel
[05:09] <jbroome> but the first step is sudo apt-get install postfix
[05:09] <plagerism> Is there a method to install to an extra harddrive without rebooting??  I could go the vmware method, however I am not sure how this will affect performance.  Is there any other suggestions??
[05:09] <nolimitsoya> pike_, thank you :)
[05:09] <gar-> jbroome i have postfix allready :)
[05:10] <opteek> plagerism, use kqemu instead of vmware
[05:10] <PasiC> could someone tell me is a localization package for quanta plus? i'd like it to "speak" Hungarian :P but it isn't an cannot find package ...
[05:11] <plagerism> opteek, kqemu will allow me to install a bootable installation of ubuntu?? Or is it just the free alternative of vmware?
[05:11] <PasiC> (additional info Edgy Eft ;-) )
[05:11] <hastesaver> !hu | PasiC
[05:11] <ubotu> PasiC: Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #ubuntu-hu
[05:11] <PasiC> :) okay, thx ubotu
[05:12] <plagerism> Is there perhaps a howto on installing without rebooting??
[05:12] <jamesbrose> How can i setup a quick proxy for irc use?
[05:12] <hastesaver> plagerism, huh? Installing packages shouldn't require rebooting... or do you mean installing Ubuntu?
[05:12] <jbroome> plagerism: w/o hotswap drives you can't install a dirve w/o rebooting
[05:12] <jpjacobs> plagerism, don't think it's possible, since loading another kernel requires you to reboot
[05:13] <plagerism> hastesaver, I mean installing UBuntu on a clean drive
[05:13] <plagerism> the drive is already installed
[05:13] <plagerism> but I dont want to reboot to install to it
[05:13] <KenSentMe> Ubuntu reacts when i insert a SD card into the card reader of my lapop, but memory stick isn't recognised. For what package should i file a bug to get it solved?
[05:13] <borg> is there a reason why this theme i just downloaded works with ever other widnow except the window of the Synaptic Package Manager?
[05:14] <n3tdo> hi all
[05:14] <n3tdo> I have a problem with the bluetooth
[05:14] <n3tdo> anyone can help me, please?
[05:14] <jpjacobs> plagerism, you can use qemu -cdrom /dev/cdrom -hda /dev/<the hd> but i don't know wheter hardware detection will be right
[05:14] <borg> n3tdo, ya i'll say, your teeth need to be white not blue, .... :D
[05:14] <nolimitsoya> how do i mark packages to be installed as having been automaticaly installed as deps?
[05:15] <plagerism> jpjacobs, I basically want to have this system of Ubuntu I am currently running, however I want lvm up and running
[05:15] <n3tdo> borg: :) can you help me?
[05:15] <afief> where can i find the w32codecs?
[05:15] <borg> n3tdo, sorry i dont know your situation :P
[05:15] <plagerism> currently my system is using a software raid, and I want to move all my harddrives(some 700gb) to lvm
[05:15] <jbroome> !w32codecs | afief
[05:15] <DENYeitan0o9> is there a way to install ubuntu over the old ubuntu installation, but with preserving the winxp installation that's on the h-d as well?
[05:15] <ubotu> afief: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:15] <n3tdo> borg: I have only a problem with pairing
[05:16] <rukuartic> !gparted
[05:16] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[05:16] <borg> n3tdo, and i've never touched bluetooth in my life
[05:16] <n3tdo> :P
[05:16] <n3tdo> ok
[05:16] <afief> jbroome: the section about "windows formats" has been removed, as well as any reference to the w32codecs
[05:16] <finn> what's wrong n3tdo ?
[05:16] <finn> I've had some trouble pairing, but have my keyboard working now
[05:16] <n3tdo> when I attempt to connect to my cellphone... and I inserted the pin
[05:17] <n3tdo> says that can't read from rfcomm0 and refused the connection
[05:17] <Guardian> hi which command could i use to display the current kernel version ?
[05:17] <borg> is there a reason why this theme i just downloaded works with ever other widnow except the window of the Synaptic Package Manager? is it cause the theme doesnt specify stuff for gtk2? can someone look at it? it's from gnome-look.org
[05:17] <jbroome> afief: oh, that's new
[05:17] <jbroome> Guardian: uname -a
[05:17] <jpjacobs> Guardian, uname -a
[05:17] <IdleOne> uname - a
[05:17] <jbroome> i win!
[05:17] <jpjacobs> ha first
[05:17] <stefg> borg, this has to do with the 'sudo' thing... you are never running synaptic as a user, but as root (which hasn't the theme installed). solution: link your users .icons and .themes dirs over to /root
[05:17] <finn> that goes beyond the problems I had n3tdo :/
[05:17] <boabsta> hi folks, how do you enable css in k3b under ubuntu?
[05:17] <afief> jbroome: for me too, i just reinstalled the system and wanted to watch some wmv blender tutorials:S
[05:17] <budluva> anyone in here ever had problems building a collection in amarok? i have done this about 10 times now and i cant get the collection built, no error messages, just wondering, do i HAVE to have sqlite, or mysql or anything installed?
[05:18] <opteek> i have a clean install of dapper and when I open some apps, such as Desktop Background, the buttons are filled in black until I move my mouse over them, at which point they become normal, while in other apps, such as System -> Keyboard, the buttons are fine from the start, anyone experienced this before?
[05:18] <n3tdo> finn: what problems did you have?
[05:18] <Guardian> thx jbroome & jpjacobs
[05:18] <finn> when I ran "hidd --search" on the computer and entered the code to pair on my keyboard, no popup appeared
[05:18] <brandon_> what do I need to install to install glx?
[05:19] <stefg> cahnce, in the first place :-)
[05:19] <stefg> chance, that is
[05:19] <borg> oh thx stefg i never thought of that, the root's home directory is /root right?
[05:19] <opteek> !kqemu
[05:19] <ubotu> kqemu is non-free kernel module for speeding up the !QEMU virtual machine. Installation instructions can be found at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/KQEmu - see also !qvm86
[05:19] <opteek> !qvm86
[05:19] <ubotu> qvm86 is an open-source alternative to the proprietary !KQEmu "accelerator module" for !QEmu. See http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/qvm86/
[05:19] <stefg> borg, yes
[05:19] <superkirbyartist> If I install Lexmark X700 Drivers, can I use X1170 printer?
[05:19] <n3tdo> finn... in my pc no poput appeares... only in my cell
[05:19] <n3tdo> *popup
[05:19] <pumpkinhead> what personal mp3 player do you use with ubuntu everyone?
[05:20] <opteek> pumpkinhead, xmms
[05:20] <n3tdo> finn: how you solved the problem?
[05:20] <pumpkinhead> i mean ipod like mp3 player :)
[05:20] <finn> do you have "bluez-passkey-gnome" installed?
[05:20] <newjs> can i use widecard in /etc/hosts file. like (127.0.0.1 *.example.com)
[05:21] <finn> and you need to have  bt-applet running
[05:21] <n3tdo> bluez-passkey-gnome not
[05:21] <reiki> ok... grub finds hd0, hd1, and hd2.... but I don't know which physical drive it's seeing as hd0, hd1, hd2. The confusing part for me is that ONE of the drives is IDE and the other 2 are sata.
[05:21] <n3tdo> I have bluez-pin and bluez-utils
[05:22] <pike_> reiki: hd0,0 is hda1  grub starts at 0 so a = 0 and 1 =0  b =1 etc
[05:23] <opteek> pike_,  what about SATA drives
[05:23] <stefg> !amarok | pumpkinhead
[05:23] <ubotu> pumpkinhead: Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.4 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[05:23] <reiki> pike_,  so... hd0,0 is hda1, hd1,0 is sda1, hd2,0 is hdb1 ?
[05:23] <maddash> I just installed breezy server. I want to add on an xfce package. sudo apt-get install xfce doesn't work. what repository am I missing?
[05:23] <n3tdo> finn: ok I am downloading the package ... but after how can I enable the applet?
[05:23] <pumpkinhead> no i mean a personal mp3 player, an external one, that you download music onto and take with you
[05:23] <opteek> maddash, use apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[05:23] <stefg> maddash: there is no xubuntu 5.10, AFAIK... any reason not to use dapper?
[05:24] <maddash> stefg, opteek: I want to install xfce, not xubuntu...
[05:24] <hastesaver> does Audacity work for anyone here?
[05:24] <maddash> opteek: xubuntu-desktop is far different from simple ubuntu + xfce....ie, more stuff
[05:24] <opteek> maddash, have you tried apt-cache search xfce
[05:25] <borg> i have two sound cards (an nvidia CK8S AC97 and a sound blaster) i told ubuntu that my primary sound device will be the sound blaster, but flash movies in firefox output to my nvidia AC97 and not my sound blaster is there anyway to change that?
[05:25] <stefg> maddash: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75971
[05:25] <maddash> opteek: I issued "sudo apt-get update" followed by "sudo aptitude"
[05:25] <stefg> as google turned up
[05:25] <maddash> opteek: xfce doesn't show up in any of the aptitude categories
[05:25] <claudio> does anyone know where to find the php5-dbase extension for edgy?
[05:26] <pike_> reiki: never used sata but i believe its normally sd0 instead of hd0 i think
[05:26] <jbroome> sd*
[05:26] <opteek> maddash, the forum link stefg posted will help you
[05:26] <reiki> pike_,  grub sees them all as hdx,0
[05:27] <Shin_gouki> hello! i tried installing ubuntu.. now my mbr got messed up, , im bakc on my system using install/Live CD , how can i restore my windows mbr?
[05:27] <opteek> Shin_gouki, you need to go into recovery mode on your windows cd
[05:27] <opteek> Shin_gouki, google xp mbr recovery
[05:28] <Shin_gouki> i got a XP disk... i try!
[05:28] <pike_> reiki: well as long as it sees it it might be ok i guess.
[05:28] <boabsta> does anyone know how to enable css support in k3b under ubuntu?
[05:28] <Riyonuk> I cant seem to open a .rar
[05:28] <Riyonuk> It keeps saying "Archive type not supported"
[05:29] <stefg> !rar
[05:29] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[05:29] <Riyonuk> Shin_gouki, Windows cd > Recovery console > Log on to C > Type FixMBR
[05:29] <hastesaver> boabsta, what would that mean? You want to make css-encrypted DVDs ?
[05:29] <Riyonuk> So why can I open .rar files in ubuntu?
[05:29] <afief> where can i find the w32codecs?
[05:29] <boabsta> hastesaver, backup encrypted dvds
[05:29] <hastesaver> !w32codecs
[05:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:29] <jpjacobs> Riyonuk, try installing rar-nonfree
[05:29] <afief> hastesaver: they were removed from the repositories for some reason
[05:29] <opteek> i have a clean install of dapper and when I open some apps, such as Desktop Background, the buttons are filled in black until I move my mouse over them, at which point they become normal, while in other apps, such as System -> Keyboard, the buttons are fine from the start, anyone experienced this before?
[05:30] <hastesaver> boabsta, you have libdvdcss installed?
[05:30] <Riyonuk> Yeah...how do I do that..
[05:30] <hastesaver> !w32codecs
[05:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:30] <blas> hi
[05:30] <jpjacobs> Riyonuk, it's in apt (the multiverse repo i think)
[05:30] <stefg> opteek: nvidia-card with 'option render-accel' 'true' in xorg.conf?
[05:30] <blas> ubuntu uses apt for package managment?
[05:30] <blas> i mean debian's apt
[05:30] <afief> hastesaver: been there read the wiki, all references to w32codecs have been removed
[05:31] <boabsta> hastesaver, nope - any ideas on how to install that please? I get this:
[05:31] <Seveas> blas, it does
[05:31] <boabsta> Package libdvdcss is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:31] <boabsta> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted
[05:31] <Seveas> !libdvdcss | boabsta
[05:31] <ubotu> boabsta: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:31] <blas> Seveas: ah thanks
[05:31] <Riyonuk> jpjacobs, thanks, Ill look
[05:31] <blas> Seveas: then i think ill install ubuntu, something similar to debian :)
[05:31] <hastesaver> afief, you can get it from the Seveas repo. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:32] <opteek> stefg, I have a Radeon 9200 PRO, no nvidia entries in xorg.conf
[05:32] <Riyonuk> I see rar but no rar-free
[05:32] <boabsta> thanks guys - i'll check it out
[05:32] <maddash> opteek: is there a reason why i should install xubuntu-desk over xfce?
[05:33] <rukuartic> maddash: xfce is xubuntu-desktop. -desktop just comes with a whole bunch of xfce programs to use.
[05:33] <Riyonuk> Oh..unrar
[05:33] <borg> i have two sound cards (an nvidia CK8S AC97 and a sound blaster) i told ubuntu that my primary sound device will be the sound blaster, but flash movies in firefox output to my nvidia AC97 and not my sound blaster is there anyway to change that? this is Flash 7 btw
[05:33] <Riyonuk> I found it, jpjacobs thanks!
[05:33] <opteek> maddash, it's prepackaged and preconfigured nicely
[05:33] <afief> hastesaver: Dapper version?
[05:33] <stefg> opteek: i had the same bug, and it came from this render-accel option set... maybe there's an analogue for ati?
[05:34] <nickspoon> borg: gksudo gedit /etc/firefox/firefoxrc
[05:34] <hastesaver> afief, if you're using Dapper, add the Dapper repo; if you're using Edgy add the edgy repo.
[05:34] <borg> thank you nickspoon
[05:34] <finn> when I select the packet "nvidia-glx" to be installed, it wants to remove a lot of other stuff I previously installed
[05:34] <maddash> opteek, rukuartic: thanks. I'm switching over to ubuntu now. see you on the other side.
[05:34] <finn> how can I avoid this?
[05:34] <nickspoon> borg: change FIREFOX_DSP="none" to FIREFOX_DSP="aoss"
[05:34] <afief> hastesaver: There is nothing about edgy on the page you sent me
[05:34] <Riyonuk> So..how do I use unrar-free?
[05:35] <TheManiacKY> Is there a console app I can run on my server to check the CPU tempature in Ubuntu server?
[05:35] <nickspoon> borg: save, then install the package alsa-oss.
[05:35] <opteek> stefg, I will try installing ATI drivers per dapper ubuntuguide and see if that helps
[05:35] <pos69sum> after i installed dapper - it seems my fonts in the terminal are all 'flickery'
[05:35] <borg> wait, nickspoon what do i put in the the firefoxrc ?
[05:36] <pike_> Riyonuk: unrar e filename.rar    there are alot of flags you can use but that is simple extract
[05:36] <pos69sum> i tried different screen resolutions, same deal
[05:36] <hastesaver> afief, oh, strange. The wiki page hasn't been updated, I guess. Just pick one of the mirrors, and replace dapper with edgy
[05:36] <borg> do i put the name of the /dev name of my sound blaster name in the Firefox_DSP parameter?
[05:36] <finn> can I somehow save the ones which are marked for removal?
[05:36] <finn> I want to keep them :(
[05:36] <jpjacobs> TheManiacKY, acpi -t
[05:36] <fredxor> i'm trying to mount a windows partition in ubuntu live 5.1. i'm in the disks manager and it says that it's inaccessible. can you please help me?
[05:36] <Riyonuk> pike_, bash: unrar: command not found
[05:37] <nickspoon> borg: you say everything else plays through your soundblaster, so put FIREFOX_DSP="aoss"
[05:37] <stefg> fredxor: define 'win-partition...' ntfs or fat32?
[05:37] <jpjacobs> Riyonuk, tried it in a new console?
[05:37] <pike_> Riyonuk: sudo apt-get install unrar  or it might be unrar-nonfree
[05:37] <fredxor> stefg: ntfs
[05:37] <rukuartic> stefg: Probably ntfs.
[05:37] <pike_> Riyonuk: in dapper its just unrar
[05:37] <unimatrix9> hi there
[05:37] <nickspoon> borg: then sudo aptitude install alsa-oss
[05:37] <TheManiacKY> jpjacobs Thanks.. Great. 138.2F :( I though somthing like that was wrong
[05:37] <rukuartic> unimatrix9: Hey
[05:37] <finn> anybody?
[05:37] <stefg> fredxor: breezy doesn't support ntfs r/w ...
[05:37] <borg> nickspoon, ok, thanks, btw i use synaptic to install my packages
[05:37] <Guest63436> Bataia Script Professional  Version 3
[05:37] <unimatrix9> got an digital camera, but ubuntu does not see the photos on it , any tips?
[05:37] <nickspoon> borg: that's fine.
[05:38] <TheManiacKY> jpjacobs Any idea how I can force my fans to max? :(
[05:38] <unimatrix9> it tries to import but fails to see the photo's
[05:38] <fredxor> stefg: does 6.06 lts support ntfs?
[05:39] <finn> following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia gives me the problem
[05:39] <unimatrix9> how do i mount to browse the content of an digital camera?
[05:39] <pike_> unimatrix9: what kind of camera?  on most you can just mount em like a usb drive
[05:39] <stefg> fredxor: yes, i run ntfs3g (fuse-ntfs) on dapper without problems... make sure you have ntfs compression disabled in win...
[05:39] <unimatrix9> its uhci_hcd
[05:39] <fredxor> stefg: thankyou very much
[05:40] <pike_> unimatrix9: ah
[05:40] <unimatrix9> is that browseble?
[05:40] <Neilp> hi, can someone help me set up my broadcom wirelss card?
[05:41] <stefg> !wifi
[05:41] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:41] <jpjacobs> TheManiacKY, dunno, maybe something with acpi (see man acpi)
[05:41] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[05:42] <pike_> unimatrix9: i normally just plug mine in and "ls -t /dev | head" then if it shows sda1 or sdb1 i "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/usb" or something..
[05:42] <lesshaste> how can you record a skype call on amd64?
[05:42] <jlowell> hey folks, I followed an ubuntu how to to get beryl working on kubuntu, and now I can't get kdm to start at all, instead I get the kubuntu boot splash and then a blank sceen help?
[05:42] <jpjacobs> TheManiacKY, or something in /proc/acpi
[05:42] <stefg> !xgl | jlowell
[05:42] <ubotu> jlowell: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:43] <pike_> unimatrix9: it should automount though
[05:43] <nolimitsoya> can/should/need i use sudo within a bash script, if sudo is used to execute it?
[05:43] <Viaken> pike_: Thanks for the tip (a half hour ago :P). I can chroot to it from the LiveCD to work and/or backup what I need to. I think I'll stick it out.
[05:43] <FlightOfStairs> how would I be able to do a very minimal install of ubuntu, for flash disks and stuff (is it even possible?)? the standard install from the cd requires 2Gb+
[05:43] <jlowell> stefg: i was trying for aiglx
[05:43] <jhasse> Does anyone know why the font on the progress bar looks ugly since edgy?
[05:43] <Riyonuk> Ok, I cant play .mpg, what program would handle this?
[05:43] <narvik86> Riyonuk: VLC
[05:44] <pike_> Viaken: your braver than me im still in dapper :)
[05:44] <Riyonuk> oh yeah, I totally forgot :o
[05:44] <boabsta> Seveas, i can only install libdvdcss2 from those repos but k3b dies a horrible death when it starts to backup the dvd now
[05:44] <x-r00t-x> !codecs | Riyonuk
[05:44] <ubotu> Riyonuk: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:44] <dv_> Riyonuk, VLC, mplayer, gxine, kaffeine, totem
[05:44] <Viaken> pike_: Nah not brave. Just blessed with an extra machine to play with. It's made for things like this. ;)
[05:44] <jlowell> stefg: please msg me that url again?
[05:44] <unimatrix9> it does automount, but cant find any pictures i just took
[05:44] <stefg> FlightOfStairs: start with a 'server'-install (500MB) and carefully add packages... no metapackages like ubuntu-desktop... a fairly comple /xubuntu/ with ooo-writer and wine fits in 1GB on my lappie
[05:45] <stefg> !xgl | jlowell
[05:45] <ubotu> jlowell: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:45] <lesshaste> what's the best voip solution for linux? Skype is driving me mad
[05:45] <mrmist> I'm having problems running any fullscreen X application... seems like gnoe restarts every time I try to start a fullscreen app
[05:45] <jpjacobs> TheManiacKY, or if it is an athlon processor, you could try athcool.
[05:45] <borg> nickspoon, so firefox was written in OSS?
[05:45] <jlowell> thx stefg
[05:45] <Viaken> lesshaste: I've had good experiences with TeamSpeak
[05:46] <jlowell> !aiglx
[05:46] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.
[05:46] <Karark|away> my xfce panels are gone, how do i get them back?
[05:46] <lesshaste> Viaken: thx
[05:46] <stefg> Karark|away: press alt-f2 and enter 'xfce4-panel'
[05:46] <fredxor> how do i get root permissions using sudo?
[05:46] <pike_> Karark|away: xfce4-panel& maybe
[05:46] <smokie> how can i prevent aptitude from installing all video cards while install xserver-xorg ?
[05:46] <hastesaver> afief, fixed that wiki page, BTW.
[05:47] <stefg> !sudo | fredxor
[05:47] <ubotu> fredxor: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:47] <fredxor> ubotu: thanks, maybe i'm not going in the right direction...
[05:47] <FlightOfStairs> ty stefg, is there no way to get it under 500mb?
[05:47] <afief> hastesaver: thanks a lot, but i've already tried two mirros and they both said that the release file is corrupted:S
[05:48] <fredxor> i'm using ubuntu live 6.06 lts, but when i try to access the windows ntfs partition, it says that i do not have the permissions necessarry to do so
[05:48] <stefg> FlightOfStairs: depends on what you want... X? gtk2? applications?  noooo, no way... just a console and and a ssh-client: might work...
[05:48] <boabsta> hastesaver - should k3b work with libdvdcss2 - i tried but it crashes. Or should i be using libdvdcss instead?
[05:49] <FlightOfStairs> ok
[05:49] <FlightOfStairs> lol
[05:49] <FlightOfStairs> ty
[05:49] <hastesaver> afief, tell Seveas :-)
[05:49] <Seveas> ?
[05:49] <linax> hello
[05:49] <stefg> FlightOfStairs: look at fluxbuntu...
[05:49] <Seveas> afief, 'sup?
[05:49] <FlightOfStairs> will do :)
[05:49] <pike_> fredxor: what directory is it mounted to?
[05:49] <afief> Sevas: hi there:-) didn't know you've got a repository of your own going
[05:49] <hastesaver> boabsta, actually, it may be easier to do DVD backup with k9copy
[05:50] <afief> Seveas: hi there:-) didn't know you've got a repository of your own going
[05:50] <Seveas> hi
[05:50] <linax> Ok i got a question i changed my login window thingy but the actions windows still stays as that human earth tony kinda thing is there a way to change that thing if you know what im talking about?
[05:50] <boabsta> hastesaver, thanks i'll try :)
[05:50] <fredxor> pike_: disk-conf-hda1 in tmp
[05:50] <Seveas> afief, paste the complete error on pase.ubunut-nl.org please
[05:51] <hastesaver> Seveas, (it's working fine for me, BTW...)
[05:51] <pike_> felixjet: im curious if this will work with mount try: sudo mount -o remount umask=000 /mountpoint
[05:51] <afief> Seveas: just a minute, need to get the mirror back into my sources.list
[05:51] <linax> tis perplexing me really hehe :P
[05:51] <Seveas> hastesaver, for me as well, but there are som caveats
[05:52] <sya> when mounting a drive with fstab, what should i put for "<pass>" ?
[05:53] <Seveas> sya, 0
[05:53] <sya> thanks
[05:53] <fredxor> pike_: disk-conf-hda1 in tmp
[05:53] <pike_> felixjet: er fredxor sorry see my comment above
[05:53] <afief> Seveas: http://paste.uni.cc/12496
[05:53] <felixjet> np
[05:53] <felixjet> xD
[05:53] <sya> Seveas, what about its label? how do you change it. it says NTFS still instead of ext3
[05:54] <Seveas> afief, how hard is it to read a wikipage?
[05:54] <Seveas> afief, look for big bold notices...
[05:54] <mrmist> I'm having problems running any fullscreen X application... seems like gnoe restarts every time I try to start a fullscreen app
[05:54] <TooR4u> How to create virtualdisks ??
[05:54] <reiki> this is a little maddening :)  grub sees all 3 drives, but I don't know WHICH drive is which (mixed IDE and SATA). This Dapper boots fine and GRUB says root (hd0,0) for this drive. It's a sata drive. I guess I don't know if it's seeing sata first and THEN IDE or what...
[05:54] <TooR4u> !Virtualdisks
[05:54] <fredxor> pike_: it says that i must specify the filesystem type
[05:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Virtualdisks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:55] <jpjacobs> TooR4u, you mean like a file acting as a disk?
[05:55] <TooR4u> yaaaa
[05:55] <ChaosR> hmm, how can i repair/remove graphviz-cairo, i can't apt-get anymore
[05:55] <TooR4u> jpjacobs, how to create it?
[05:55] <mrmist> please guys
[05:55] <jlowell> stefg: I dont get it nothing but the kubuntu boot screen comes up at : sudo kdm
[05:56] <borg> nickspoon, so firefox was written in OSS?
[05:56] <jpjacobs> TooR4u, do this: dd if=/dev/null of=disk.img bs=1M count=<how big you want it to be in megabytes>
[05:56] <TooR4u> jpjacobs, I am trying to install windowsxp through vmware.......
[05:56] <pike_> fredxor: syntax would be like mount -t ntfs -o and the rest
[05:56] <stefg> reiki: get at the grup prompt, and type 'find /boot/grub/stage1' ... you'll see the disk-number then, how grub see tehm
[05:56] <ChaosR> !remove
[05:56] <pike_> fredxor: but it normally doesnt prompt for that
[05:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remove - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:56] <linax> shouldnt really install windows after linux if its one disk
[05:56] <jpjacobs> TooR4u, but hasn't vmware got it's own diskcreating utilities?
[05:56] <ChaosR> !repair
[05:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repair - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:56] <ChaosR> someone
[05:56] <ChaosR> plz
[05:57] <fredxor> pike_: it says that /mountpoint doesn't exist
[05:57] <linax> it'll mess up the boot process
[05:57] <jpjacobs> ChaosR, what's the problem?
[05:57] <gar-> how i can change the permision of a folder itead of having root i want it to use corret user from the public folder!!!
[05:57] <Shin_gouki> i hi there i got the following problem! , i installed ubuntu on a USB hard disk but it seems the GRUB entry is wrong...
[05:57] <reiki> stefg : yeah I've done that. It just lists hd0,0  hd1,0   and hd2,0 , but I still don't know which drive is which
[05:57] <ChaosR> jpjacobs: <ChaosR> hmm, how can i repair/remove graphviz-cairo, i can't apt-get anymore
[05:57] <pike_> !ntfs| fredxor
[05:57] <ubotu> fredxor: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[05:57] <TooR4u> jpjacobs, yaa ....But i have to install it...(Because i am searching for flash support)
[05:57] <Shin_gouki> GRUB Problem, : now i read this herei read this here: Type "root (hd0,6)", or whatever your harddisk + boot partition numbers are (my /boot is at /dev/sda7, which translates to hd0,6 for grub)."
[05:57] <pike_> fredxor: see that link sorry going to lunch
[05:57] <erUSUL> gar-: right click on it and go to properties
[05:57] <stefg> jlowell: xgl/aiglx support is separate in #ubuntu-xgl... and this has a reason ....
[05:57] <gar-> erUSUL by console
[05:58] <gar-> i dont have access to it by gui
[05:58] <fredxor> pike_: okay, thankyou
[05:58] <jpjacobs> ChaosR, i'd look into your sources.list. prolly something wrong there. then try reinstalling it via synaptic
[05:58] <Shin_gouki> were do i look up this "translates" ??? i want to know what i have to enter with GRUB to get the HDD going?
[05:58] <TooR4u> jpjacobs, Plz check this link  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=84275
[05:58] <ChaosR> jpjacobs: synaptic uses apt-get
[05:58] <jpjacobs> TooR4u, can i IM you?
[05:58] <erUSUL> !cli | gar-
[05:58] <ubotu> gar-: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[05:58] <TooR4u> jpjacobs,ok
[05:58] <TooR4u> 1m
[05:58] <jpjacobs> ChaosR, what errors do you get when apting stuff?
[05:59] <ChaosR> subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127
[05:59] <AlexC_> Hey,
[05:59] <AlexC_> How can I play .mov files in Ubuntu please?
[05:59] <ChaosR> !mov
[05:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mov - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:59] <erUSUL> !restricted | AlexC_
[05:59] <ubotu> AlexC_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:59] <stefg> !libquicktime
[06:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libquicktime - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:00] <linax> ummmmm hmmm
[06:00] <stefg> !info libquicktime0
[06:00] <ubotu> libquicktime0: library for reading and writing Quicktime files. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.9.7-0.6ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 245 kB, installed size 728 kB
[06:01] <stefg> ahhh...
[06:01] <linax> ok anyone able to help me here or is there another place i need to go?
[06:01] <AlexC_> erUSUL: stefg Hum, I've already done that yet it still doesn't work
[06:01] <Novaliska> :)
[06:01] <boabsta> linax, wots up?
[06:01] <Shin_gouki> hello i got a GRUB problem , may anybody help me?
[06:02] <linax> im trying to change where when you sign in that like screen comes up showing beryl and stuff like that
[06:02] <reverseblade> I have compiled my own kernel (2.6.19.1) Now ubuntu says, there is an update for 2.6.17. Should I make the update ?
[06:02] <reverseblade> Shin_gouki, #grub also
[06:02] <boabsta> linax, u using gnome or kde?
[06:02] <mrmist> I'm having problems running any fullscreen X application... seems like gnome restarts every time I try to start a fullscreen app
[06:03] <mrmist> anoyne have any idea what's wrong ?
[06:03] <linax> i am using gnome
[06:03] <narvik86> how can i start printing deamon(cups probably) ?
[06:03] <nolimitsoya> if i execute a bash script with sudo, do i need to use sudo within that script to get su priviliges?
[06:03] <reverseblade> narvik86, tried sudo /etc/init.d/cups start ?
[06:04] <reverseblade> nolimitsoya, no but, you cannot setUID for bash scripts
[06:04] <stefg> reverseblade: no, if you don't know how to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst... since you decided to leave the stock-kernel anyways, it's your own responsibility to have your kernel updated
[06:04] <calvarez> hello! I'm having problems configuring apache2 to use mod_python in edgy: http://pastebin.com/845800
[06:04] <boabsta> linax, sorry i could help if you used kde but not to familiar with gnome
[06:04] <calvarez> any help will be greatly appreciated
[06:04] <nolimitsoya> reverseblade, meaning? :)
[06:04] <reverseblade> stefg, I know how to edit it. I just am afraiding breaking up things with this update
[06:05] <reverseblade> nolimitsoya, the answer is no
[06:05] <narvik86> reverseblade:  sudo /etc/init.d/cupsd start , thanks
[06:05] <linax> i see
[06:05] <Shin_gouki> Hello! i installed ubuntu 6.10 on a usb disk but now on startup i get an Error 21 how to fix it?
[06:05] <nolimitsoya> reverseblade, thank you :) this is my first venture into scripting. sorry dor asking dump questions :)
[06:05] <nolimitsoya> *for
[06:05] <linax> is there anyone able to help me that uses gnome to change that screen that comes up after log on screen that shows like the start up stuff coming on ????
[06:06] <stefg> reverseblade: that's what i was going to tell you... no use in  downloading 30+ MB when you're not gonna use them. and it *will* touch your menu.lst
[06:06] <TooR4u> qwmu
[06:06] <Airwulf> hello to you all
[06:06] <TooR4u> !qemu
[06:06] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[06:06] <reverseblade> stefg, ok but how can I remove that from being updated then ?
[06:07] <Airwulf> gedit needs about 3 minutes to start. Any idea what could happened?
[06:07] <reverseblade> Airwulf, try running gedit from console, and see what it spits out
[06:07] <stefg> reverseblade: if you have installed your custom-kernel with apt then simply apt-get remove remove linux-image-[arch] 
[06:08] <gloup> Hi all
[06:08] <reverseblade> stefg, yeah thats true
[06:08] <reverseblade> stefg, but  I am afraiding if it removes some thing else
[06:09] <fredxor> how do i login to root on the 6.06 live cd
[06:09] <Shin_gouki> Hello i installed ubuntu 6.10 , on a USB Harddisk but when i reboot i get an GRUB Error 21, which indicated that the disk does not exist, now im back with the install/Live CD  but i dotn kown how too look up and reenter the xact Number within GRUB?
[06:09] <fredxor> what's the default pass?
[06:09] <Airwulf> reverseblade, I tried already. Nothing will be printed to the console.
[06:09] <stefg> reverseblade: if your custom-kernel is generated by kpkg then apt knows what to do... if you simplky threw it on your system, bypassing apt, then it might be dangerous
[06:10] <mohadib> hello
[06:10] <trilingualkid> Hello. I have a question. Are there any other Linux environments besides KDE and Gnome?
[06:10] <reverseblade> stefg, yes I installed it via kpgk
[06:10] <hikenboot> hello all--I have been working on my samba issue ..one question i have is the authentication is there directions anywhere on setting up ubuntu box as a domain controller (sole domain controller) for a domain in order for running samba services..and would this include ldap or somthing?
[06:10] <mohadib> anyone know of another app that can export to Gallery besides f-spot?
[06:10] <hikenboot> I found one for setting up a pdc without using ldap but that wont really fly in a larger environment\
[06:10] <Shin_gouki> trillingual kid , yes a lot, like XFCE, IceWm
[06:10] <trilingualkid> shin_gouki: what's xfce and icewn?
[06:11] <sya> hey, what do i need to connect to an ssl'ed server?
[06:11] <pder> does anyone know if ubuntu supports input devices such as a keyboard or mouse?  i wish to be able to input data into my ubuntu based computer system.
[06:11] <mohadib> xfce ftw!
[06:11] <Shin_gouki> trillingual kid , window manager , desktop environments.. look up those
[06:11] <gourdin> hi there
[06:11] <stefg> reverseblade: so just get rid of the whole stock-kernel-packages and restricted and headers and stuff... you'll never be bothered then again with ubuntu-kernel updates
[06:11] <trilingualkid> shin_gouki: ok. thank you. i will look them up.
[06:11] <gourdin> where do I remove the automatic "updatedb" on my ubuntu ?
[06:11] <Shin_gouki> i need some help with GRUB, somebody here who can help me?
[06:11] <fredxor> i have a win ntfs partition mounted, but it will not let me browse it. it says that i do not have the right permissions. please help
[06:11] <reverseblade> stefg, does it matter if I do it via Synaptic ?
[06:12] <stefg> reverseblade: no
[06:12] <pucko_> anyone know what's needed to make suspend/resume work on a edgy workstation?
[06:12] <jpjacobs> pucko_, enough swapspace to store your ram in for a starter.
[06:14] <sya> hey, what do i need to connect to an ssl'ed server?
 does anyone know if ubuntu supports input devices such as a keyboard or mouse?  i wish to be able to input data into my ubuntu based computer system.
[06:15] <Nulzore> was he fuckin serious?
[06:16] <mohadib> lol
[06:16] <mohadib> i hope not
[06:16] <Nulzore> same :/
[06:16] <jpjacobs> hehe
[06:17] <reiki> ok.... trying this again... sheeesh.....
[06:17] <finn> when I try to install the packet: nvidia-xgl I get: nvidia-glx:
[06:17] <finn>  Depends: libglu1-mesa but it is not going to be installed or
[06:17] <finn> 	libglu1
[06:18] <Shin_gouki> i have a boot error with GRUB , some one here who can help me?
[06:18] <JDahl> I am trying to compile kernel 2.6.19.1 to support some new hardware, but I don't know which SATA driver to include to be able to boot.  lspci -v tells me "ATI Technologies Inc ATI 4379 Serial ATA Controller" - should I configure the kernel to "Generic ATA support"? There doesn't seem to be an explicit driver for ATI SATA
[06:18] <stefg> Shin_gouki: what error?
[06:19] <masterk> i need a program that reads chm files, does anyone know of one?
[06:19] <jpjacobs> chm files.
[06:19] <jpjacobs> ?
[06:19] <finn> what can I do about this problem
[06:19] <masterk> chm files yes
[06:20] <PrimeHex1Sleep> wtf
[06:20] <masterk> compiled html" files
[06:20] <stefg> win help-viewer with wine? :-)
[06:20] <PrimeHex1Sleep> oh well
[06:20] <PrimeHex1Sleep> I'm back
[06:20] <TheDebugger> xchm, gchm kchm
[06:20] <TheDebugger> You can actually search in synaptic
[06:20] <pucko-> jpjacobs, yeah I extended my swap-space to 1.2gb earlier (380mb ram). but do I need to install some packages are should it work directly in the kernel?
[06:21] <masterk> i searched xchm in synaptic with no results
[06:21] <jpjacobs> hmm apt-cache search suspend?
[06:21] <pr3d4t0r> Good morning.
[06:21] <pr3d4t0r> un_operateur: Bonjour.
[06:21] <pupcia> hallo
[06:22] <LameBMX> k im having kernal / initramfs issues with a fakeraid install .. any helpers
[06:22] <pucko-> jpjacobs, yes, but there seems to be a few alternatives there, but I'm not sure how they work. either hibernate or uswsusp (two completely different packages) and then I still need to know how they are called from the kde logout menu. right now the computer just locks up.
[06:23] <TheDebugger> masterk, you must add the appropriate repositories
[06:23] <Shin_gouki> i need some help with GRUB, somebody here who can help me?I installed Ubuntu 6.10 on a USB Hard disk and now on startup i get a GRUB . Error 21, ideas?
[06:23] <pr3d4t0r> Q. I'm running Kubuntu on a headless box.  I'd like to start vncserver on that system for a specific user, after setting her VNC password.  She's never logged on to it using a GUI.  vncserver doesn't seem to be installed.  Is there a HOWTO that you'd recommend so that I can RTFM and set her up?  Thanks in advance.
[06:23] <pucko-> jpjacobs, the thing is, should I need those packages to begin with? or are they just alternatives to kernelsupport for suspend to ram or something? (doesn't matter to me but I need to know how to use them)
[06:24] <jpjacobs> pucko-, i thought it was swsp..2
[06:25] <Riyonuk> How come when I leave my desktop and comeback, Im at the ubuntu login screen?
[06:25] <Riyonuk> How can I change it so it doesnt do that?
[06:25] <PrimeHex> Riyonuk: did you log out or lock the screen?
[06:25] <PrimeHex> either way, there's an application called screen, do you know how to use it?
[06:25] <pianoboy3333> What's a good alternative to mencoder? I need to string four VOB files together, and encode them into one AVI, and I have to start encoding like 10min into the first VOB, and stop 2min in the fourth/last VOB I've been having trouble doing this with mencoder, what could be an alternative program?
[06:25] <Riyonuk> no, I just left it, and came bacl
[06:25] <Riyonuk> *back
[06:25] <pr3d4t0r> Riyonuk: GUI desktop or CLI?
[06:25] <PrimeHex> no clue then
[06:26] <PrimeHex> I thought you had manually logged out and didn't want to lose your current stuff on irssi/whatever else
[06:26] <Riyonuk> pr3d4t0r, uhh its a GUI, its gnome
[06:26] <LameBMX> Riyonuk: system | screensaver .. and uncheck prompt for password
[06:26] <pucko-> jpjacobs, there's a suspend2-userui, but I don't know what that is either. and there seems to be some kind of stuff in acpi-support too. so I guess I have four packages to choose from
[06:26] <dv_> Riyonuk, maybe X crashed
[06:26] <dv_> if this happens, the login manager shows up again
[06:26] <stefg> Shin_gouki: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/8978
[06:26] <pr3d4t0r> Riyonuk: I'm not sure about how to set this up in Gnome but all it's doing is locking the system out for safety.
[06:26] <LameBMX> yea that too
[06:26] <dv_> because X is restarted
[06:26] <pr3d4t0r> :(
[06:26] <maracana> iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[06:27] <POVaddct> Riyonuk: i guess after a while your X screensaver/screenlocker kicked in, making the X server crash
[06:27] <pr3d4t0r> LameBMX: Ah!  Thanks.
[06:27] <LameBMX> he is gone
[06:27] <pr3d4t0r> LameBMX: Yeah, saw that :)
[06:27] <LameBMX> yea ...
[06:27] <jpjacobs> pucko-, i think it's uswsusp
[06:27] <LameBMX> the fun one is to get the d*** screen to stop blanking out after 10 minutes
[06:28] <jpjacobs> LameBMX, there is a trick with xset (see man xset)
[06:28] <andre_> hello
[06:29] <stefg> !info vino
[06:29] <ubotu> vino: VNC server for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.0-0ubuntu2.2 (edgy), package size 173 kB, installed size 1956 kB
[06:29] <jpjacobs> pr3d4t0r, the default vnc server in ubuntu is vine i think, or something similar. (it's installed by default )
[06:29] <stefg> !info vino
[06:29] <jpjacobs> right vino  that's it
[06:29] <pr3d4t0r> jpjacobs: Ah.
[06:29] <pr3d4t0r> jpjacobs: Let me see if it's installed/running.  Thank you.
[06:30] <jpjacobs> np
[06:30] <pr3d4t0r> jpjacobs: Doesn't Ubuntu install vncserver for a systemwide logon, however?
[06:30] <stefg> no
[06:30] <pr3d4t0r> stefg: Ah, coolio.
[06:30] <josh_> masterk: edgy has CHM Viewer in the Accessories section of Add/Remove programs
[06:30] <pucko-> jpjacobs, oh well. I'll give it another try. thanks.
[06:30] <pr3d4t0r> Ah, it's not installed. :\
[06:30] <ChaosR> can someone tell me what is wrong with: test -f "$ProfileDir/${ProfileList[$Profiles] }" && disptxt="$disptxt\n$Profiles*) ${ProfileList[$Profiles] }" || disptxt="$disptxt\n$Profiles ) ${ProfileList[$Profiles] }"
[06:30] <POVaddct> pr3d4t0r: didnt you say it is kubuntu?
[06:31] <stefg> pr3d4t0r: as the description said.... In component main, is optional
[06:31] <POVaddct> pr3d4t0r: then vino wont help you
[06:31] <Some_Person> i cant get online
[06:31] <ChaosR> it gives this error: /home/chaosr/.WineCVS/Functions/MainMenu: 91: Syntax error: Bad substitution
[06:31] <Some_Person> i tried pppoe and dhclient, both fail
[06:31] <POVaddct> Some_Person: still the pppoe problem?
[06:31] <Some_Person> yep
[06:31] <Some_Person> still
[06:31] <VincentMX> hi
[06:31] <Some_Person> i even reinstalled ubuntu
[06:32] <Riyonuk_> WTF, I went to screensaver and the screen went all blank with a blinking cursor, like the beginning of the movie, the matrix, and I pressed Escape key and it made a little symblol like [^]  or something like that
[06:32] <pr3d4t0r> POVaddct: I'll just set up a VNC server I'm familiar with.  Thanks :)
[06:32] <POVaddct> Some_Person: and i still dont know what to do. maybe windows set your dsl modem to a proprietary protocol (not pppoe)?
[06:32] <Some_Person> i dont know
[06:33] <Riyonuk_> pr3d4t0r, yup, thats what happened, what went wrong?
[06:33] <POVaddct> Some_Person: is the modem cross-connected to the computer or is there a hub between them?
[06:33] <kbrooks__> what is cross-connecting, POVaddct
[06:34] <POVaddct> kbrooks__: crossover ethernet cable
[06:34] <Some_Person> modem is connected straight to ethernet port
[06:34] <kbrooks__> uh, whats that?
[06:34] <PrimeHex> Anybody here familiar with a problem in edgy when flash manages to break the sound when you start playback then stop it?
[06:34] <PrimeHex> kbrooks__: instead of usinga  router, a special ethernet cable is used which switches some cables
[06:34] <PrimeHex> enabling the connection to work properly
[06:35] <Some_Person> nvidia (my ethernet card mfg) has drivers on their website, but they don't appear to support ubuntu/debian
[06:35] <kbrooks__> PrimeHex, "switches some cables"?
[06:35] <POVaddct> kbrooks__: there are two types of tp ethernet cables. "normal" ones, also called patch cable and "crossed" ones (some wires are not 1:1 connected)
[06:35] <PrimeHex> kbrooks__: on the inside, there's 3 colored pairs, it changes the order of them on one side
[06:35] <ChaosR> PrimeHex: my router requires a crossover cable to connect
[06:35] <stefg> Some_Person: nforce(2,3,4)-chipset ?
[06:35] <TooR4u> jpjacobs, thank uuuu
[06:35] <Some_Person> nforce, dont know the number
[06:35] <PrimeHex> Most don't, that's pretty odd
[06:36] <PrimeHex> Anybody here familiar with a problem in edgy when flash manages to break the sound when you start playback then stop it?
[06:36] <Seveas> PrimeHex, grab flash 9
[06:36] <Seveas> that solves most audio problems
[06:36] <PrimeHex> Seveas: I did, but my sound is still broke
[06:36] <PrimeHex> No sound at all works
[06:36] <toulouse> flash 9 doesnt work in linux right?
[06:36] <PrimeHex> Anywhere
[06:36] <toulouse> or is it out yet?
[06:36] <PrimeHex> toulouse: hey! sup?
[06:36] <Some_Person> should i try to install http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_nforce_1.11.html?
[06:36] <Seveas> PrimeHex, you sure you use flash 9 and not a flash 7 hidden somewhere?
[06:36] <POVaddct> Some_Person: nforce cards are crap. nvidia refuses to give programming info, so the driver had to be reverse engineered.
[06:37] <Seveas> !flash9 | toulouse
[06:37] <ubotu> toulouse: flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[06:37] <toulouse> PrimeHex: im back , so your sound still dont work huh
[06:37] <PrimeHex> Seveas: yes, I just recently installed flash9, thi s is a fresh install.
[06:37] <PrimeHex> of edgy, that is
[06:37] <stefg> Some_Person: if you find 'forcedeth' in your lsmod-listing you should be fine. this is a rverse engineered driver for the nforce NIC, but works better than the nvidia ones
[06:37] <toulouse> well, i dont want it if it's gonna break my sound
[06:37] <pianoboy3333> What's a good alternative to mencoder? I need to string four VOB files together, and encode them into one AVI, and I have to start encoding like 10min into the first VOB, and stop 2min in the fourth/last VOB I've been having trouble doing this with mencoder, what could be an alternative program?
[06:37] <Seveas> PrimeHex, with a fresh homedir as well?
[06:37] <PrimeHex> toulouse: lol, it usually doesn't I just won an unlucky lottery
[06:37] <methy> is it anything close to uTorrent on linux?
[06:37] <PrimeHex> Seveas: indeed, completely fresh
[06:37] <toulouse> !backports
[06:37] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[06:37] <POVaddct> Some_Person: sad but true, some hardware manufacturers do a really bad job in terms of supporting the linux community.
[06:38] <PrimeHex> methy: rtorrent is not as pretty, but it works way better
[06:38] <Some_Person> like my isp
[06:38] <Seveas> PrimeHex, lsof /dev/dsp
[06:38] <methy> PrimeHex: cool, thanks;>
[06:38] <PrimeHex> Seveas: what is that supposed to do? because it did nothing... xD
[06:38] <Some_Person> they say "linux is unsupported, at&t yahoo dsl only supports windows and macintosh"
[06:38] <POVaddct> Some_Person: is that a closed source driver from the nvidia page?
[06:38] <narvik86> how can i change "pritable area"?, i mean footer of the page is not printed, with for example pdf files
[06:38] <Some_Person> probably
[06:38] <toulouse> !feisty
[06:38] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[06:38] <Seveas> PrimeHex, then nothign is occupying the sound device :)
[06:38] <PrimeHex> Seveas: ah, ok
[06:39] <PrimeHex> I went around in circles for about 4 hours last night halfway tring to get this thing to work...
[06:39] <stefg> POVaddct, Some_Person, don't bother about the nvida-nic driver... forcedeth is in the kernel for ages, and no bugs are known so far
[06:39] <POVaddct> Some_Person: i dont know about at&t dsl. i live in germany and t-online dsl works for me.
[06:39] <toulouse> primehex,  check that whatever sound player you are using is using the same sound server (such as ALSA or OSS) as the systems sound
[06:39] <PrimeHex> I'm not mad or anything, snow in 0.1.4 is keeping me happy
[06:40] <PrimeHex> toulouse: checked that last night :D
[06:40] <PrimeHex> toulouse: and i'm not even getting system sound
[06:40] <toulouse> that's what fixed my problem
[06:40] <toulouse> oh, i wasnt either
[06:40] <toulouse> until i fixed the sound server issue
[06:40] <warty> ades   sakit betul kepala hang...
[06:40] <warty> dah la internet slow
[06:40] <Some_Person> nope, nvidia's drive wont work on ubuntu, there's no source
[06:40] <toulouse> i couldnt find how to switch it in gnome, kde has it in control panel>sound >sound server
[06:40] <POVaddct> stefg: there many new nforce ethernet cards now, not running perfectly with the forcedeth driver. nvidia changes the chipset behaviour every now and then.
[06:41] <toulouse> i still dont think it is available in gnome
[06:41] <PrimeHex> Seveas: last night some guy said this happens a lot and there's some easy fix for it...any ideas?
[06:41] <Seveas> PrimeHex, that's with flash 7
[06:41] <POVaddct> stefg: especially the gbit nforce cards gave me trouble
[06:41] <Some_Person> still, why did the pppoe work yesterday but not today?
[06:41] <PrimeHex> Seveas: oh :(
[06:41] <Seveas> I never had problems with flash9
[06:42] <PrimeHex> I think i just had bad luck somewhere
[06:42] <PrimeHex> I wish I could fix this
[06:42] <POVaddct> Some_Person: i cannot explain why i worked yesterday...
[06:42] <stefg> Some_Person: so what does 'ifconfig' spit out on your box?
[06:43] <toulouse> guys why can only one application output sound at a time???
[06:43] <toulouse> in ubuntu
[06:43] <stefg> !dmix | toulouse
[06:43] <ubotu> toulouse: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[06:43] <kkoso> .
[06:44] <toulouse> stefg: it works, it's just that only one app can play sound at a time-weird?
[06:44] <stefg> !esd
[06:44] <ubotu> esd is the enlightened sound deamon. It's deprecated, use !alsa instead
[06:44] <toulouse> oh well, im glad mine works
[06:44] <toulouse> !alsa
[06:44] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[06:44] <Some_Person> stefg: i'll have to switch over to check
[06:44] <_eclipse> how do I know if I've got x86-64 or x86, I've got Pentium 4 64 bits.
[06:44] <Riyonuk_> is xfce supported by linux, like can I find it with apt-get?
[06:44] <_eclipse> Riyonuk_, yes
[06:44] <_eclipse> with all the linuxes.
[06:44] <POVaddct> Some_Person: you dont have a second computer, do you?
[06:44] <Some_Person> no
[06:44] <POVaddct> Some_Person: hmm
[06:45] <_eclipse> Riyonuk_ apt-cache search xfce4 and then install you preffered applications
[06:45] <Riyonuk_> Umm what would be the command to get it?
[06:45] <PrimeHex> Seveas: is there a way to completely restart the sound, and see if that does it?
[06:45] <Some_Person> one computer, one dsl modem
[06:45] <Seveas> reboot :)
[06:45] <_eclipse> Riyonuk_ apt-cache search, searchs for the packages, and apt-get install it! installs it
[06:45] <PrimeHex> Seveas: done that a few times :/
[06:45] <_eclipse> apt-cache search may be useful before apt-get install something:)
[06:45] <POVaddct> Some_Person, stefg: maybe it is a autonegotiation problem
[06:45] <Some_Person> if it matters, the modem is a siemens speedstream 4100
[06:46] <_eclipse> how do I know if I've got x86-64 or x86, I've got Pentium 4 64 bits.
[06:46] <POVaddct> Some_Person: german telekom also uses rebranded siemens dsl modems. no problem so far.
[06:46] <stefg> Some_Person:  i see... so you have a dsl line... is there a router involved, or do you plug directly in your dsl-modem?
[06:46] <PrimeHex> Seveas: what would i do to stop whatever is holding up the sound?
[06:46] <Some_Person> driectly
[06:47] <Seveas> PrimeHex, fuser -k /dev/dsp
[06:47] <Seveas> but lsof already told you nothing is locking it
[06:47] <largopascual> hola
[06:47] <Seveas> !es
[06:47] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:47] <stefg> Some_Person: ok, so dhcp won't work... are you positive that your provider uses pppoe, or is something different?
[06:47] <largopascual> hay alhguien
[06:48] <Riyonuk_> Ok, whats the main program though?
[06:48] <Taggert77> hi - one simple question.  I am new to Ubunto and I installed it on the second HD of my computer.  I also use Win XP on this computer.  How can I access the Win XP data from Ubuntu?  Where is the folder that says Windows?
[06:48] <POVaddct> stefg: we have been through pppoe -A -I eth0 and dhclient eth0 already. no luck...
[06:48] <Riyonuk_> _eclipse, which package do I want?
[06:48] <lotia> folks is there a gui for lvm management available in ubuntu?
[06:48] <Some_Person> i dont know, they wont tell me anything having to do with linux
[06:48] <_eclipse> Riyonuk_ apt-cache search xfce4
[06:48] <_eclipse> Riyonuk_ you'll get that answer.
[06:48] <PrimeHex> Seveas: shows nothing as well
[06:48] <Seveas> Riyonuk_, you'll most likely want xubuntu-desktop
[06:48] <Some_Person> i do know the modem logs in and connects to the internet by itself, not by the computer
[06:48] <_eclipse> Riyonuk_ reading packages' description might be useful
[06:49] <stefg> POVaddct: may it's pppoa (or whatever the name of is... Austria uses it a lotAFAIK)
[06:49] <_eclipse> Riyonuk_ it should be something like: window managaer
[06:49] <_eclipse> window manager
[06:49] <POVaddct> Some_Person: oh! you didnt tell me that
[06:49] <xyz> !mount |taggert77:
[06:49] <ubotu> taggert77:: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[06:49] <Taggert77> thx - i gonna try that
[06:49] <Some_Person> you can go to 192.168.0.1 in a browser (on windows) and log in that way
[06:49] <POVaddct> stefg: pppoa is new to me
[06:49] <xyz> ;)
[06:50] <PrimeHex> Seveas: shows nothing as well
[06:50] <largopascual> hola
[06:50] <neighborlee> hi there im wondering why: gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse  < does not  come up under a synaptic search yet: gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad < does..is this a minor goof in the HELP file in ubuntu ??
[06:50] <Seveas> !es| largopascual
[06:50] <ubotu> largopascual: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:50] <Some_Person> it stores the login and keeps a constant connection 24/7
[06:50] <Seveas> PrimeHex, then maybe a larg hammer will help
[06:50] <PrimeHex> Seveas: larg?
[06:50] <narvik86> e
[06:51] <PrimeHex> +e possibly?
[06:51] <stefg> POVaddct:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point-to-Point_Protocol_over_ATM
[06:51] <Seveas> PrimeHex, yeah ;)
[06:51] <PrimeHex> oh
[06:51] <PrimeHex> >:E damnit
[06:51] <Some_Person> the problem is linux refuses to communicate with the modem
[06:52] <stefg> Some_Person: USB-modem? what manufacturer?
[06:52] <Some_Person> ethernet, siemens
[06:53] <PriceChild> !language PrimeHex|Games
[06:53] <PrimeHex|Games> >:E
[06:53] <stefg> Some_Person: i see... a dsl2-modem, prolly pppoe
[06:53] <PrimeHex|Games> stefg: pppoe is the password one right? has he put his user info in?
[06:53] <mojojojo__> hi! I upgraded to edgy and during upgrade X11 produced an error. No Synaptic doesn't work and upgrade manager fails to do anything :(
[06:54] <mojojojo__> No=Now*
[06:54] <|markie|> is there an way to config the network fro the console
[06:54] <violot> Does Alacarte run really slow for anyone else?
[06:54] <Some_Person> the modem is the thing that actually connects with user and pass, not the computer
[06:54] <PrimeHex|Games> Oh, well most times you still need to enter the user/password
[06:54] <Some_Person> and it keeps a constant connection even with computer turned off
[06:54] <borg> what's a good program to record video from my hauppage tv card that's on /dev/video1 ??
[06:54] <Some_Person> windows does not even have my user and pass, the modem does
[06:54] <PrimeHex|Games> I used to have pppoe and that's what you had to do for inital setup, was put in user/pass and all that
[06:55] <stefg> Some_Person: no, a *router* would do that...
[06:55] <TooR4u> !qemu-system-x86_64
[06:55] <Some_Person> i did too, but i gave it to the modem, not windows
[06:55] <POVaddct> Some_Person: the it is a router, not a plain modem
[06:55] <PrimeHex|Games> stefg: some modems have routers built in now
[06:55] <leonel> any clues when  we can have  the patched  firefox 2 in ubuntu
[06:55] <leonel> ?
[06:55] <POVaddct> Some_Person: how does the modem know the user/password data in the first place?
[06:55] <dontlovem> Dose anyone have the Default configure command for php around anywhere?
[06:55] <Some_Person> i gave it to it
[06:55] <dontlovem> to fet mysql
[06:55] <PrimeHex|Games> Some_Person: give it to it again
[06:55] <POVaddct> Some_Person: over which interface?
[06:55] <PrimeHex|Games> and on that note, I'm out
[06:55] <Some_Person> i went to http://192.168.0.1 and i get a login form
[06:55] <Riyonuk_> Seveas, so I want xubuntu-desktop? Is that like another ubuntu? Cause I have ubuntu regular
[06:55] <stefg> PrimeHex|Games: true... in this case i'd call it a router with buikltin modem, not vice-versa
[06:56] <dontlovem> to get mysql connected to php and everything.
[06:56] <Some_Person> i enter my user and pass and it connects
[06:56] <POVaddct> Some_Person: argh, so why didnt you tell that earlier?
[06:56] <PrimeHex|Games> stefg: idk, mp3 playing cellphone or call making mp3 player? xD
[06:56] <Seveas> Riyonuk_, it'll install xfce on top of ubuntu
[06:56] <PrimeHex|Games> on that note, I'm out
[06:56] <PrimeHex|Games> bye
[06:56] <Seveas> and you can choose between xfce and gnome during login
[06:56] <POVaddct> Some_Person: that is totally different from pppoe
[06:56] <|markie|> how con i configure my network from the console. i need to add a static ipadres and default gateway
[06:56] <Some_Person> so, what is it then?
[06:57] <POVaddct> Some_Person: if this is how the modem works, pppoe could _never_ have worked
[06:57] <Seveas> |markie|, edit /etc/network/interfaces. See man 5 interfaces for details
[06:57] <Some_Person> but it did yesterday
[06:57] <POVaddct> Some_Person: coincidentially i guess
[06:57] <Some_Person> anyway, what do i do to make it work now?
[06:58] <POVaddct> Some_Person: my guess is it was still using the user/passwd data entered in windows and gave you address over dhco
[06:58] <POVaddct> *dhcp
[06:58] <Some_Person> no user/pass was entered in windows
[06:58] <Some_Person> just in firefox at http://192.168.0.1
[06:58] <stefg> So the Siemens-modems given away by ISP's are generally just _modems_, no routers inside. Some_Person, has it more than two network jacks (wan/local) ?
[06:58] <Some_Person> no
[06:59] <stefg> so it's amodem.... pppoe or pppoa
[06:59] <Some_Person> is it a modem or a router?
[06:59] <POVaddct> stefg: if he has a web interface, it must be more than a plain modem
[06:59] <stefg> a *modem', *modem*, *modem*
[06:59] <willskills> Some_Person, from Google; Default admin username  	 admin
[06:59] <willskills> Go to wiki
[06:59] <willskills> Default admin password 	admin (Bigpond-supplied) No Password (OptusNet-supplied)
[06:59] <POVaddct> stefg: and according to Some_Person, it _has_ a web interface
[07:00] <willskills> it looks liek the seimens modems require logins :o
[07:00] <Some_Person> it does, want a screenshot?
[07:00] <LameBMX> seimens?
[07:00] <TooR4u> hii anybody femiliar with qemu?
[07:00] <LameBMX> use the number on the bottom of the modem
[07:00] <willskills> why would I need that? Try admin/no password, and then admin/admin
[07:00] <willskills> see if either gets you in
[07:00] <LameBMX> admin
[07:00] <Some_Person> i can completely configure the modem through http://192.168.0.1
[07:00] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> TooR4u ,a bit ...not much details though....
[07:00] <LameBMX> bold number on bottom of modem
[07:00] <willskills> oh right sorry, what's the problem then?
[07:01] <Riyonuk_> Seveas, once I install it, I log out and back in to use it right?
[07:01] <POVaddct> Some_Person: why not configuring a fixed ip address in ubuntu (say 192.168.0.20), set 192.168.0.1 as default gateway and manually configure dns to your provider's dns server?
[07:01] <POVaddct> Some_Person: then you could also go to the web interface
[07:02] <Some_Person> i cant get to it on ubuntu
[07:02] <TooR4u> GreyGhost-Ubuntu, i am installing windows on my box through qemu.....(Now i have some blue screen after installing...should i have to reboot my system now?)
[07:02] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> !anyone |  TooR4u
[07:02] <ubotu> TooR4u: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:02] <LameBMX> eimens modems default to 192.168.1.1 i believe
[07:02] <Some_Person> 192.168.0.1
[07:02] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> TooR4u , Windows version?
[07:02] <TooR4u> xp
[07:03] <POVaddct> LameBMX: depends on the provider reselling the modem
[07:03] <LameBMX> i havent come across any that were different POV
[07:03] <POVaddct> LameBMX: that doesnt mean there are different ones
[07:03] <POVaddct> arent*
[07:03] <pr3d4t0r> Have a nice day, Everyone.
[07:03] <stefg> can't we just have the model-number and look the thing up on the friggin' Siemens-site?
[07:03] <LameBMX> no it dont .. but if he cant connect on 0.1 then what does trying 1.1
[07:03] <LameBMX> hutr
[07:03] <LameBMX> hurt
[07:03] <arrenlex> Happy birthday to me! :D
[07:04] <methy> i've got a pc running as a torrentdownloader with winxp and uTorrent & vnc, would it be hard to set up something similar in ubuntu?
[07:04] <derFlo> i cant find ed2k core (command line) for linux, can anyone give me a link to download it? thx
[07:04] <POVaddct> LameBMX: Some_Person still has to set the ip address of eth0 accordingly to be in the right subnet
[07:04] <stefg> methy: i have that
[07:04] <alienseer23> Q: on dapper, all of my mounted partitions appeared on the desktop and in the menu tree of nautilus, how do I get them back in edgy??
[07:04] <Some_Person> its dynamic
[07:04] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> TooR4u , i suggest u pop into #qemu .... this is much more QEMU related IMO ... i think they'll be more helpful ...
[07:04] <Milos_SD> will Intel 537EP modem work in Edgy Eft?
[07:04] <pike_> methy: cake
[07:04] <LameBMX> POVaddct:
[07:04] <LameBMX> a) dhcp is easier
[07:04] <Some_Person> or do i put in the modem's ip, 192.168.0.1?
[07:05] <POVaddct> LameBMX: Some_Person already tried to get ip address via dhcp. no luck.
[07:05] <LameBMX> new seaimens modems handle the pppoe connections and then his computer can just config with dhcp
[07:05] <LameBMX> thats why
[07:05] <LameBMX> Some_Person: what model seimans
[07:05] <POVaddct> LameBMX: would you please just _scroll back_ and read what we have tried so far.
[07:05] <Some_Person> speedstream 4100
[07:06] <stefg> Obviously this is 'should handle the connection' , not 'handles the connection'
[07:06] <Milos_SD> Q: will Intel 537EP modem work in Edgy Eft?
[07:06] <stefg> !hardware
[07:06] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[07:06] <stefg> !modem
[07:06] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[07:06] <alienseer23> !nautilus
[07:06] <arrenlex> !hardware | A:
[07:06] <ubotu> nautilus: file manager and graphical shell for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.1-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 586 kB, installed size 1424 kB
[07:06] <ubotu> A:: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[07:06] <LameBMX> Some_Person: okay enter 192.168.1.1 in your web browser ... enter admin for user .. and the big bold number on the bottom of the modem for the password
[07:06] <Some_Person> why?
[07:06] <derFlo> i cant find ed2k core (command line) for linux, can anyone give me a link to download it? thx
[07:06] <Some_Person> in ubuntu i do that?
[07:06] <LameBMX> yea
[07:07] <LameBMX> any os
[07:07] <Some_Person> i cant get to the web interface in ubuntu
[07:07] <ravalox> Hey, I'm looking for some printer recommendations.  I'm trying to find a linux comaptible all-in-one printer
[07:07] <Some_Person> in windows, i have my actual user/pass
[07:07] <LameBMX> then try 192.168.15.1
[07:07] <methy> any tips on partitioning 2x120gb's?
[07:07] <ravalox> does one exist?
[07:07] <LameBMX> are you putting the http:// infront of the ip addy Some_Person
[07:07] <Some_Person> yes
[07:07] <stefg> ravalox: epson DX-line, or the HP-stuff
[07:07] <willskills> either that or reset the modem with the button on the back and use the default IP?
[07:08] <Some_Person> in windows, the cconnection is working, i have a user and pass from my isp
[07:08] <LameBMX> Some_Person:
[07:08] <Some_Person> the config page is customized by my isp, obviously, since there's an sbc logo on it
[07:08] <daviey> Hi, how can i force re-install of language-pack-gnome-en-base ??
[07:09] <LameBMX> you need to use admin to log into the modem ... the user and pass from your isp will go into the pppoe setting when you are logged into the modem (using admin/number on bottom of modem)
[07:09] <stefg> daviey: sudo apt-get install --reinstall package_name
[07:09] <alienseer23> how do I activate the disk icons on my desktop and in my "my comuter" folder for mounted partitions??
[07:09] <Some_Person> i dont know what you mean
[07:10] <Some_Person> to log in again, i'd have to disconnect from the internet
[07:10] <daviey> stefg, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39037/
[07:10] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> TooR4u ,has the XP installation completed?
[07:11] <methy> i got a ntfs disk , and im going to switch from xp to ubuntu, should i make it ext3 or just stick with ntfs?
[07:11] <timo901> alienseer23:You will get to see them when you have mounted a device/hhd
[07:11] <LameBMX> Some_Person: how are you connected right now ...
[07:11] <Some_Person> windows
[07:11] <alienseer23> timo901: the partitions are mounted...?
[07:11] <Some_Person> windows has no user or pass for the internet or the modem
[07:11] <LameBMX> Some_Person: and did you setup pppoe in windows for the internet?
[07:11] <timo901> so you acnt see then?
[07:11] <Some_Person> the modem has my isp's user and password
[07:11] <timo901> cant *
[07:11] <messiahs> I need help with wengophone
[07:12] <Some_Person> the modem is connected to ethernet
[07:12] <LameBMX> okay so the speadstream is already setup for pppoe and dhcp correct Some_Person
[07:12] <daviey> can somebody help me re-install a package.  The package in question has borked apt'....    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39037/
[07:12] <stefg> daviey: huh?... that
[07:12] <Some_Person> as far as i know
[07:12] <alienseer23> right, gparted shows them as mounted, so does disc checker
[07:12] <daviey> stefg, i tried to force installing of a package and it borked
[07:12] <LameBMX> and how do you want to connect the ubuntu box to it Some_Person
[07:12] <stefg> daviey: huh?... that looks like a broken package... but can't be... installing feisty?
[07:12] <alienseer23> oops. so does disc usage analyzer
[07:12] <method|> when I do a sudo apt-get update i get the following errors:
[07:12] <method|> Get:6 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Sources [1441kB] 
[07:13] <Some_Person> ethernet
[07:13] <messiahs> Wengophone dont work in my Ubuntu
[07:13] <method|> 99% [6 Sources gzip 0] 
[07:13] <method|> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[07:13] <method|> Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Sources
[07:13] <method|>   Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[07:13] <Some_Person> they're the same machine
[07:13] <LameBMX> okay ...
[07:13] <method|> Fetched 3800B in 1s (1991B/s)
[07:13] <method|> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/universe/source/Sources.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[07:13] <Some_Person> dualboot
[07:13] <method|> any suggestions?
[07:13] <Douchey> 	x????????????)??
[07:13] <LameBMX> okay ... and what errors do you get
[07:13] <method|> seems weird that us.archive.ubuntu.com will give me an error
[07:13] <daviey> stefg, noooo.   i had some disk errors that fsck fixed... but seemes to gave broken the lnaguage package.  I want to reinstall it
[07:13] <Some_Person> i cant acess my modem from ubuntu at all
[07:13] <Some_Person> no websites, no 192.168.0.1 page, nothing
[07:14] <LameBMX> ummmm ... have you tried doing ... ifconfig eth0 down
[07:14] <Nitro> hello
[07:14] <daviey> Some_Person, can you paste bin a ifconfig
[07:14] <Douchey> 	x????????????)??
[07:14] <Some_Person> and then up again, ues
[07:14] <alienseer23> ok, they are definately mounted, but not showing up
[07:14] <LameBMX> okay what does it say there?
[07:14] <alienseer23> but, I have to manually mount them every time
[07:14] <eztk> hmmmhmm
[07:14] <eztk> the whole screen is flickering bacdly
[07:14] <eztk> lol
[07:14] <stefg> daviey: ah.... ok then. Prolly your apt-database is gone haywire. See google or the debian admin guide to see how to fix that
[07:14] <Some_Person> ok, i'll have to switch over to ubuntu then
[07:14] <Douchey> 	x????????????)??
[07:14] <daviey> stefg, any closer pointers
[07:14] <LameBMX> AHHH
[07:15] <vesteve> Hola perras
[07:15] <POVaddct> Douchey: the is an english only channel
[07:15] <LameBMX> was gonna have him do a ipconfig /release before he left lol
[07:16] <Douchey> 	x????????????)??
[07:16] <Douchey> 	x????????????)??
[07:16] <Douchey> 	x????????????)??
[07:16] <Douchey> 	x????????????)??
[07:16] <Douchey> 	x????????????)??
[07:16] <Douchey> 	x????????????)??
[07:16] <Douchey> 	x????????????)??
[07:16] <Nitro> I have a problem
[07:16] <Douchey> 	x????????????)??
[07:16] <Douchey> 	x????????????)??
[07:16] <Douchey> 	x????????????)??
[07:16] <Nitro> it's quite simple, I'm just too new =P
[07:16] <LameBMX> sounds like them old cable modems / dlink routers that dont want to give ip addys back out until after you reboot .. but know that
[07:16] <LameBMX> !anybody | Nitro
[07:16] <ubotu> Nitro: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:17] <stefg> daviey: that's was google spit out: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=debian-devel&m=98791861414949&w=2
[07:17] <Nitro> hehe. How can I kill an app running on ubuntu that has locked up
[07:17] <deepsa> does 6.10 in live cd ?
[07:17] <deepsa> Nitro: man kill
[07:17] <LameBMX> Nitro: kill process id number
[07:18] <Nitro> ok.....
[07:18] <LameBMX> lol ... the fun things to figure out
[07:18] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> Nitro ,or use ... System -- > Admin. --> system mmonitor ....
[07:18] <grout> when i type top does it kill the list of all the processes or just a few?
[07:18] <deepsa> grout: it doesnt kill anything
[07:18] <grout> i mean list
[07:18] <grout> not kil
[07:18] <gabi> hello - i use dapper , on the top panel i lost the part that has all the applications and menus- how can i bring it back?
[07:18] <deepsa> lol
[07:18] <grout> lol
[07:19] <daviey> stefg, didn't work!! :(
[07:19] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> night all ...
[07:19] <deepsa> gabi: right click and add to panel and it add windows list
[07:19] <grout> when i type top does it  list all the processes or just a few?
[07:19] <deepsa> gabi: sorry add to panel and search you will find it
[07:19] <NickGarvey> grout: it will show as many as your screen can fit, "ps aux" will list all of them
[07:20] <stefg> daviey: try to sudo apt-get remove -- purge languagepack-blabla first, and tehn try to install it again
[07:20] <NickGarvey> grout: top will actively monitor the processes though
[07:20] <grout> ok thanks
[07:20] <gabi> deepsa,  menu-bar! thanks!@
[07:20] <deepsa> gabi: np
[07:20] <siarhei> can someone show me a how-to for Open Arena installation, please?
[07:20] <Some_Person> ok, i have the output of ifconfig
[07:21] <stefg> good!
[07:21] <willskills> siarhei - go to the ubuntu forums and search? :)
[07:21] <deepsa> Some_Person: pastebin
[07:21] <grout> how can i make something start at start up for a lamp server?
[07:21] <borg> what's a good program to record video from my v4l hauppage tv card that's on /dev/video1 ??
[07:21] <Some_Person> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39039/
[07:21] <deepsa> grout: what you want to start
[07:21] <siarhei> willskills, i tried, no luck
[07:21] <grout> deepsa mt-daap
[07:21] <deepsa> borg: best i know is videLAN
[07:21] <stefg> grout: that's what rc.local is for
[07:21] <deepsa> videoLAN through VLC
[07:22] <borg> deepsa, aight i'll try that
[07:22] <deepsa> grout: is it a service or what(daemon)?
[07:22] <grout> deepsa its a service
[07:23] <deepsa> Some_Person: it's clearly seen that your ethernet device is not properly configured
[07:23] <borg> deepsa, so wait is that a plugin for VLC?
[07:23] <Some_Person> ok, how do i configure it right?
[07:23] <deepsa> borg: VLC itself
[07:23] <deepsa> Some_Person: you need to see in the menus somewhere in administration > network card configuration
[07:23] <borg> deepsa, hmm, i didnt know VLC could record things
[07:23] <deepsa> grout: you can use /etc/rc.d/rc.local
[07:24] <deepsa> borg: it can and you can try others like mplayer
[07:24] <fromvega> does ubuntu have squidguard in its repositories?
[07:24] <borg> deepsa, mplayer too? wow
[07:24] <deepsa> fromvega: ya
[07:24] <deepsa> borg: ya
[07:24] <Some_Person> which menu option?
[07:25] <willskills> Some_Person, System > Adminsitration > Networking
[07:25] <Some_Person> and what exactly do i put in?
[07:25] <stefg> Some_Person: so the driver is there and working, the interface is set up... you need an IP now, and probably need to adjust the MTU to 1472 or so
[07:26] <Some_Person> the modem knows my ip
[07:26] <fromvega> deepsa: where? when I type aptitude search squid* it just returns squid and squid-common
[07:26] <deepsa> Some_Person: set your ethernet device to take the ip from dhcp (that is your modem)
[07:26] <Some_Person> it is
[07:26] <deepsa> fromvega: maybe it is not
[07:26] <stefg> Some_Person: no, it does not... your modem is actually a router :-)
[07:27] <Some_Person> ok, so how do i set it?
[07:27] <Nitro> the install app in ubuntu kepps locking every time I try to install something :<
[07:27] <jpjacobs> !kqemu > TooR4u
[07:28] <toulouse> Nitro: that's not too good
[07:28] <thing> I am preparing preinstallation of Ubuntu for a pc-builder. We would prefer an image of ubuntu preinstalled to deploy on all pc configurations. Is this possible? alternate options?
[07:28] <Some_Person> what do i put in for ip? subnet mask? gateway?
[07:28] <stefg> Some_Person: there's a NAT-router in it that translates your 'leased IP' from your ISP into a local network one. So this micro-router is obviously too stupid to give a working dhcp lease for a linux-box, so POVaddct was right when he suggested to use a fixed IP
[07:28] <methy> thing: dl the alternate cd
[07:28] <Some_Person> ok, but what ip do i use?
[07:28] <enyc> thing: hrrm sounds very possible... there is OEM mode on some cds
[07:28] <toulouse> thing: could you just make copies of every ubuntu type? (such as i386, amd64, ppc)
[07:29] <enyc> Some_Person: look at ip addressos on other devices
[07:29] <jpjacobs> thing, i've made a perlscript for stuff like this if you want.
[07:29] <enyc> Some_Person: what other hosts do you have working on the same subnet?
[07:29] <obductor> peoplo i want see my nickname: http://ghostdog.home.sapo.pt/CapturaEcra.png help me
[07:29] <Some_Person> i dont know
[07:29] <Nitro> how am I gonna get it too work?
[07:29] <thing> methy: is there any documentation for alternate cd?
[07:29] <thing> enyc:  OEM mode cannot be done silently afaik
[07:29] <LameBMX> Some_Person: next time you leave windows do ipconfig /release
[07:29] <methy> thing: dunno :[
[07:29] <Some_Person> i know the gateway address and the subnet mask
[07:30] <Some_Person> but what do i put for ip?
[07:30] <stefg> Some_Person: you'll have to fin out what IP the router presents to the 'LAN' (which is just your box and the router) if the second last number isn't right, it won't work, because you're on a different subnet
[07:30] <enyc> Some_Person: right... and nameserver addresses that get used?
[07:30] <elTigr1> what filesystem should I choose for my / partition
[07:30] <elTigr1> ?
[07:30] <LameBMX> gateway address + 1
[07:30] <enyc> Some_Person: well.... the DHCP server may choose a range....   do your other hosts tend to get allocated an address 100 -upwards or something?
[07:30] <toulouse> !filesystem
[07:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about filesystem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:30] <thing> jpjacobs: interested. Why script? What does it do? and how?
[07:30] <toulouse> oh that doesnt exist
[07:30] <enyc> Some_Person: i.e. what other ip addresses hdo other working hosts have as the machine address?
[07:31] <elTigr1> is reiserfs slower than ext3?
[07:31] <elTigr1> !reiserfs
[07:31] <ubotu> reiserfs is a journalling file system, in benchmarks it outperforms many others on I/O operations, but they take notoriously long to mount.
[07:31] <hans_madrid> Hi There!
[07:31] <Some_Person> windows says in ipconfig: my ip is 69.151.248.182; my gateway is 69.151.248.182
[07:31] <jpjacobs> thing see pm
[07:31] <elTigr1> !ext3
[07:31] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[07:31] <LameBMX> hey ... speadstream 4100 is not a router .. its a single device modem .. so he only has his computer connected to it
[07:31] <toulouse> use ext3 right ?
[07:31] <Some_Person> subnet is 255.255.255.0
[07:31] <deepsa> ubotu: what you want to do register your nick at freenode
[07:31] <borg> deepsa, ok, i see the recording options for vlc but are there any in mplayer, or was that totem you were talking about?
[07:31] <enyc> Some_Person: that is odd... IP and gateway the same... sounds like connected directly to an isp thing
[07:31] <dontlovem> how can i istnall curl
[07:31] <enyc> Some_Person: is this on a PPP link adapter?
[07:31] <dontlovem> apt-get install curl the php module?
[07:31] <eegore> I was trying to change the virus protection on my windows boot and it messed up grub. I tried to chroot into the linux boot and I get the following arror when I try to install grub on hda ;/dev/hda: Not found or not a block device.
[07:32] <elTigr1> well, I used reiserfs before ....
[07:32] <Some_Person> no, ip is +1
[07:32] <toulouse> LOL viruses
[07:32] <Some_Person> i pasted wrong
[07:32] <deepsa> borg: man mplayer
[07:32] <elTigr1> but ubuntu defaults to ext3 so I wanted to check
[07:32] <thing> jpjacobs: 404
[07:32] <hans_madrid> Hi. Sorry, I'm a n00b in Ubuntu and I have mostly forgotten all IRC things. Could somebody just tell me that can read me?
[07:32] <enyc> Some_Person: ok try again ;-)
[07:32] <enyc> Some_Person: subnet wask, ip address. default gateway  please
[07:32] <jpjacobs> thing, 1 second
[07:32] <toulouse> we can read ya man
[07:32] <willskills> hans_madrid, yes, reading you loud and clear!
[07:32] <stefg> Some_Person: OMFFG.... a sick solution, which only SIEMENS engineers could have invented...  NAT without adress translation :-)
[07:32] <Some_Person> i'll just pastebin it all
[07:32] <yandel> is there a package for nfsen?
[07:32] <toulouse> hans_madrid: we hear ya
[07:32] <hans_madrid> Oh, thanx Touluse
[07:32] <methy> ive got a moviedisk which is 120gb and ntfs, should i make it ext3 or just stick with ntfs? im planning on installing ubuntu on the pc
[07:32] <hans_madrid> Thanks!!
[07:32] <toulouse> i dont know anything bout irc either
[07:32] <Nitro> Wehn I try to install something from ubuntu, it locks up, and nothing happens. Help please?
[07:32] <Some_Person> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39040/
[07:33] <henning> hello
[07:33] <toulouse> hi
[07:33] <hans_madrid> hi henning
[07:33] <deepsa> henning: hello
[07:33] <henning> :-)
[07:33] <borg> hello henning
[07:33] <yandel> whats the command to update the rep?
[07:33] <yandel> apt-get upgrade?
[07:33] <jwage> I am trying to configure my video card with an external monitor on my laptop and I have my resolutions and eveyrthing setup correctly, but when I scroll vertically or drag something fast across the screen, it is not very smooth and is pretty choppy. What do I need to research in order to fix this? I am using xorg
[07:33] <Riyonuk> Wow Xfce is really nice, almost what Im looking for, thanks Seveas
[07:33] <toulouse> hey guys, how do i make a icon on the toolbar for xchat
[07:33] <deepsa> henning: do you know of a perl script that can download yahoo mails to your evoultion inbox
[07:33] <methy> yandel: apt-get update
[07:33] <Riyonuk> toulouse, just drag it there
[07:33] <Admiral_Chicago> yandel: yes
[07:33] <dontlovem> can someone help me with my php ./configure?
[07:33] <yandel> what about that dist search command
[07:33] <toulouse> okie dokie
[07:34] <Admiral_Chicago> both of those work
[07:34] <enyc> Some_Person: looks like that in connected directly toa  cable provider
[07:34] <Some_Person> its dsl
[07:34] <yandel> dpkg search?
[07:34] <dontlovem> if i paste them that i it configured with?
[07:34] <LameBMX> Some_Person: that modem is configured bridge ... use the pppoe tools
[07:34] <enyc> Some_Person: hrrrm but this is on a network adapter
[07:34] <Admiral_Chicago> yandel: apt-cache search <string>
[07:34] <Some_Person> i tried the darn pppoe
[07:34] <henning> deepsa, no I don't. I am writing in perl very rarely sorry
[07:34] <enyc> Some_Person: what is the ethernet caxle connected to?
[07:34] <Some_Person> by adapter it means internet connection
[07:34] <stefg> Some_Person: use 198.168.0.10 as a fixed IP for your ubuntu-box, and 68.94.156.1 as the DNS
[07:34] <deepsa> henning: okay
[07:34] <LameBMX> enyc seimens speedstream 4100
[07:34] <Some_Person> it said adapter for my old dialup isp
[07:34] <jcole> i've got a file that is delimited by colons (:) ... it appears that some of my data has carriage returns in it... and idea of how i can use sed to remove them? it looks like it's always the last field
[07:35] <Some_Person> ok
[07:35] <toulouse> Riyonuk: thanks, i didnt realize it was under apps>internet! i thought it was activated throught terminal only (cause that's how ive been doin it)
[07:35] <Riyonuk> How do I install warsow? I cant seem to figure it out, http://www.warsow.net/wiki/index.php?title=Installation , I double clicked warsow after extracting it and it just made my resolution lower -_-
[07:35] <gsnedders> for the PPC live CD, how can you change the resolution above 1024x768?
[07:35] <Naik0> why cant i watch movies at youtube.com
[07:35] <jwage> I am trying to configure my video card with an external monitor on my laptop and I have my resolutions and eveyrthing setup correctly, but when I scroll vertically or drag something fast across the screen, it is not very smooth and is pretty choppy. What do I need to research in order to fix this? I am using xorg
[07:35] <Riyonuk> toulouse, uhh wow, I actually helped somebody..:p shows you how cool I am
[07:35] <toulouse> LOL
[07:35] <deepsa> Naik0: you need flash
[07:35] <Admiral_Chicago> !flash > Naik0
[07:35] <hans_madrid> Automatix has installed "VMWare". Is that legal?
[07:35] <henning> deepsa, does yahoo mail offer pop3 or imap access?
[07:35] <Admiral_Chicago> hans_madrid: should be
[07:35] <deepsa> henning: imap
[07:35] <toulouse> Naik0: you need to get flash, look in ubuntu repositories (synaptic)
[07:35] <henning> or just plain html
[07:35] <enyc> Some_Person: hrrrm i suspect they will only allocate you 1 ip address nayway..... are you trying te reboot this same computer to run ubuntulinux on the same connectiod?
[07:36] <hans_madrid> Thanks Admiral_Chicago
[07:36] <Naik0> deepsa: yes i tried to install that but it doesnt work
[07:36] <Admiral_Chicago> henning: imap
[07:36] <mhuetsch> this has happened to me twice now: ubuntu gets really really laggy under one account (have to hold down a key for like 5 secs for the keystroke to register even once). after it happens, that account is basically hosed, though i can still use it in safe mode. i made a new account and everything was fine for awhile and now same thing. any idea where to start debugging?
[07:36] <deepsa> Naik0: idk then
[07:36] <jpjacobs> hans_madrid, vmware player is legal, the full suite is paying or trial
[07:36] <henning> deepsa, oh well then why not using imap via evolution?
[07:36] <Naik0> deepsa what idk?
[07:36] <nkRush> is there a workaraound for xchat not remembering its position after minimizing it to tray, when I maximize it it's back to the middle of the screen which is annoying?!
[07:36] <deepsa> Naik0: i don't know
[07:36] <hans_madrid> Oooh
[07:36] <deepsa> henning: yahoo anyhow doesn't provide facility to download mails
[07:36] <Admiral_Chicago> henning: not sure, I don't use yahoo mail.
[07:36] <stefg> Some_Person: use *192.168.0.10* as a fixed IP... correction
[07:36] <willskills> Some_Person, do you have connect through Telewest? If so, turn off your PC, unplug your modem for 4 minutes (at the wall) and restart in Ubuntu - you might have some luck
[07:36] <hans_madrid> So if I use VMPlayer alone,
[07:36] <hans_madrid> it is legal, right?
[07:37] <toulouse> nkRush: i think i know what your talking about it has to catch up or somehting
[07:37] <dontlovem> http://pastebin.com/845866
[07:37] <deepsa> hans_madrid: ya perfectly legal
[07:37] <willskills> I know there DHCP is a bit wierd, but I think it just works on MAC address, so you shouldn't really be having a problem....
[07:37] <hans_madrid> I changed to Ubuntu mainly because of that bullshit about licences!
[07:37] <enyc> stefg: I hdont think hde is attached to a NAT gateway
[07:37] <henning> Admiral_Chicago, me neither lol... but obviously deepsa does
[07:37] <willskills> thier*
[07:37] <hans_madrid> Thank you, deepsa and jpjacobs
[07:37] <jpjacobs> hans_madrid, yes that's right
[07:37] <jpjacobs> np
[07:37] <deepsa> hans_madrid: np
[07:37] <Admiral_Chicago> hopefull he/she can help then
[07:37] <enyc> stefg: rather a 'ethernet half bridge' that does the PPPOA on one side and serves tehe single IP wia DHCP to the computer
[07:37] <deepsa> henning: i heard yosucker
[07:37] <enyc> stefg: with no NAPT
[07:37] <gsnedders> also, how can I view the key map?
[07:37] <Riyonuk> Where are the Xfce themes located at?
[07:37] <henning> huh?
[07:37] <stefg> enyc: look at the full desaster at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39040/
[07:38] <deepsa> henning: http://yosucker.sourceforge.net/
[07:38] <enyc> stefg: yes I saw that already
[07:38] <henning> lemme c
[07:39] <henning> deepsa, ah ic
[07:39] <deepsa> ya henning
[07:39] <henning> but well I would not use yahoo anymore
[07:39] <enyc> stefg: either the ISP or the modem-box has a 192.168.0.1 is there which is entirely possible without needing to have the computer on the 192.168.0.x subnet --  I have recursive nameserveice setup on "1.0.1.0" address that is not in a subnet computers are on
[07:39] <pike_> Riyonuk: xfce should use the gtk gnome themes i think
[07:39] <deepsa> henning: nice
[07:39] <henning> there are so much other freemailers
[07:39] <Admiral_Chicago> gmail is the best imho
[07:39] <toulouse_> yay for gmail
[07:39] <stefg> enyc: so dhcp server and gateway are different.... NAT without translation. so i'd guess you need to be on the 192.168.0.x subnet to talk to the 'router'
[07:40] <enyc> stefg: no its not necessary
[07:40] <enyc> stefg: it just needs to ARP for the gateway
[07:40] <toulouse_> hey guys
[07:40] <derFlo_> blah
[07:40] <enyc> stefg: and the modem answers proxy-arp answers
[07:40] <toulouse_> im having trouble with xchat
[07:41] <toulouse_> i  try to join quakenet
[07:41] <toulouse_> then try to join a channel
[07:41] <enyc> stefg: its kindof complicated... ;-)
[07:41] <toulouse_> and it turns grey
[07:41] <stefg> enyc: got you :-)
[07:41] <toulouse_> and then i have to xkilll it
[07:41] <Riyonuk> pike_, I mean how do I install new ones? I just downloaded one...
[07:41] <deepsa> toulouse_ what was the error
[07:41] <willskills> toulouse, if you have been using mirc, you don't have to use # in there - In Xchat - you have to use #<chan name>
[07:41] <deepsa> toulouse_ maybe yo do /join #xchat
[07:41] <jpjacobs> thing, and is the script somewhat like what you seek?
[07:41] <toulouse_> ok, i'll try that, i didnt do anything tho
[07:42] <wiseelben> anyone know of a script or program that can download an entire website, including all the resources?
[07:42] <enyc> stefg: lol i know somebody who screwed up cox internet by proxy-arp replies both ways.... answering cox-side-arp for 10.101.x.x was scrwing up cox's network nicely because of their stupid network
[07:42] <gsnedders> also, how can I view the key map, because I don't have a clue how you can do such characters now I'm trying Ubuntu again...
[07:42] <toulouse_> i just joined quakenet right? and then a box pops up with available channels,and xchat goes gray
[07:42] <enyc> stefg: whereas my ISP route a proper /28 address block to me.. and I static-route that between my gatemway-router and linux-subnetting-machine
[07:42] <Riyonuk> pike_, ?
[07:42] <Samyel> I find xchat counter-intuitive too, especially after being used to MIRC
[07:43] <toulouse_> i havent used mirc
[07:43] <deepsa> i use gaim
[07:43] <stefg> enyc: how to put your ISP's network-admins to a shame, part 1 :-)
[07:43] <toulouse_> gaim huh
[07:43] <toulouse_> i can try that
[07:43] <toulouse_> but someone said it's no good
[07:43] <willskills> I hate it for IRC
[07:43] <willskills> it's great for all the other messengers though
[07:43] <enyc> stefg: and... I have a private block between the gateway-router and the linux-subnetting-machine... with no NAT.... the linux machine  has an iproute2 rule involving a 'source hint' and the gateway-router has a static-route pointing to the linux-machine
[07:43] <willskills> if you are not 14 y/o and want "special smileys"
[07:43] <liberion> hey guys!!
[07:43] <toulouse_> well xchat wont let me get on quakenet, so i guess gaim it is
[07:43] <enyc> stefg: the packets to-from the real-IPs can cross to the 'gateway' addresses on the LAN... just needs the ARP reply there...
[07:44] <uliss1> ciao people!
[07:44] <henning> I have a question about best practice with ubuntu partition sizes... For encryption and administration reasons I want to use separate partitions for /root /tmp /var /swap /home. For some reason I have chosen the sizes too small I think. That is cus I am not able to update the Ubuntu Distribution Version e.g. from 5.10 to 6.06. I think that has todo with the sizes of /tmp and/or /var. Can anybody help me with the right size?
[07:44] <uliss1> can somebody help me to get my modem started automatically at boot?
[07:44] <deepsa> henning: sure
[07:44] <deepsa> uliss1: which modem is it
[07:44] <un_operateur> enyc, what is a " linux-subnetting-machine" ?
[07:45] <uliss1> deepsa: it's a eciadsl one
[07:45] <stefg> henning: /var/apt/cache can be around 1G, if you don't clean up
[07:45] <enyc> un_operateur: its a machine i run with 6 ethernet interfaces  with different rubnets on them... it routes between / runs NAPT
[07:45] <deepsa> uliss1: so you have dsl connection which you want to start automatically at boot
[07:45] <un_operateur> enyc, you said it didnt run NAT??
[07:45] <henning> stefg, yes I did so but 1 GB was too small for the version update mechanism of ubuntu
[07:46] <enyc> un_operateur: firewall rules etc.. runs recursive-dns with uptodate list of root nameservers... also avaids haddling external servers for forward-reverse r.e. internal/private IPs
[07:46] <linux_scholar> What's the difference between XFCE and Gnome? Xubuntu shows very little difference from Ubuntu.
[07:46] <enyc> un_operateur: it has NAPT...
[07:46] <uliss1> deepsa: right, I just need to know how to set up a script to launch eciadsl-start, I think
[07:46] <stefg> henning: that's the apt-cache alone..:-) there's other things in /var, too :-)
[07:46] <deepsa> linux_scholar: xfce is light weight desktop gnome is not soo
[07:46] <enyc> un_operateur: but I can sub-subnet a /29 or /30 to another subnet with real-IPs if i like
[07:46] <un_operateur> enyc, by NAPT you mean port translation??
[07:46] <deepsa> uliss1: which command you use to connect to dsl. adsl-start?
[07:46] <enyc> un_operateur: yess .network address with port tranlation... different no plain NAT
[07:46] <pike_> Riyonuk: unpack the file to /usr/share/themes/ i think
[07:46] <linux_scholar> deepsa:what do you mean by "light weight"? does that mean it's better for older computers?
[07:47] <uliss1> deepsa: eciadsl-start
[07:47] <hans_madrid> bye, c u l8r
[07:47] <un_operateur> enyc, yes, i know -- but it is NAT nonetheless
[07:47] <deepsa> linux_scholar: ya maybe it's better
[07:47] <pike_> Riyonuk: sorry boss keeps walking by..
[07:47] <linux_scholar> ok.
[07:47] <deepsa> uliss1: how you set it up with eciadsl-setup ?
[07:47] <Riyonuk> pike_, LOL, thanks
[07:47] <henning> stefg, my /var has 1 GB and my /tmp has 1 GB too which partition is the important one for the ubuntu version update?
[07:47] <pos69sum> has anyone upgraded mysql to mysql5?
[07:47] <pos69sum> has anyone upgraded mysql to mysql5?
[07:47] <deepsa> pike_: what is full form of boss
[07:47] <henning> then I will increase this one to 2GB
[07:47] <enyc> un_operateur: e.g. trocoll/wiltscoll had a NAT (NOT NAPT) running between the interneta an d their dmz/like hosts... 195.195.247.132 -- 172.19.1.4, 195.195.247.133 -- 172.19.1.5  etc.
[07:47] <adaptr> pike_: and your boss does not approve of your spending time on Ubuntu ? Get a better one :)
[07:47] <Admiral_Chicago> !repeat > pos69sum
[07:48] <uliss1> deepsa: I just type "sudo eciadsl-start" in the terminal and it starts to sync
[07:48] <enyc> un_operateur: 172.19.1.4 being a RFC1918 private address
[07:48] <Riyonuk> pike_, You do not have permission to write to this folder...uhh...wtf
[07:48] <deepsa> uliss1:  open /etc/rc.d/rc.local and put in sudo eciadsl-start in it and save and exit and now if you reboot you will be connected. enjoy!!
[07:48] <un_operateur> enyc, do you have a problem or you here to teach NAT? that's all i'm worried about :)
[07:48] <stefg> henning: /var/cache/apt/archives holds all downloaded packages... so /var is too small. BTW, you know tmpfs? Far better to put your /tmp in swapspace ...
[07:49] <enyc> un_operateur: NAPT is different and stateful-requirement
[07:49] <elTigr1> this stupid installer won't let me install ubuntu, under the alleged cause that I did not specify a root partition even though in this "mount point dialogue" I entered / for /dev/hda1....
[07:49] <enyc> un_operateur: no problem ;-)
[07:49] <trilingualkid> Hi. I've been using Ubuntu for a few days now, and I was wondering about different Linux distros. I became interested in trying out KDE for a while, so I need an answer to this question: (I'm downloading the Kubuntu ISO @ this very moment) how do I burn a CD Image to a CD using CD/DVD Creator?
[07:49] <henning> stefg, do u think 2 GB for /var is enough size for the  complete ubuntu download?
[07:49] <enyc> elTigr1: hrrm if you cant work that out even after restarting the installer... try ithe -alternate install cd
[07:49] <stefg> henning: should be
[07:49] <elTigr1> -.-
[07:49] <henning> stefg, no I didn't know tmpfs
[07:50] <henning> ok thx
[07:50] <Hirvinen> trilingualkid: Why don't you just install the kubuntu-desktop metapackage?
[07:50] <un_operateur> enyc, it's called NAPT/PAT/NAT overloading is still NAT because it still translates between source and destination addresses
[07:50] <enyc> trilingualkid: you dont need to do that as there is a single package repository... you can insstall 'kubuntu-base' or similar and have kde installed on the same system
[07:50] <trilingualkid> hirvinen: what's the metapackage?
[07:50] <pike_> Riyonuk: sudo
[07:50] <trilingualkid> enyc: what do u mean?
[07:50] <eztk> join #ubuntu-uk
[07:50] <eztk> oops
[07:50] <enyc> trilingualkid: on existing ubuntu/fgone... you can install the right base package that will install all the kde parts too
[07:51] <un_operateur> enyc, and you should be calling your "subnetter-machine" a router, because thats what routers do, connect up different subnets
[07:51] <Hirvinen> trilingualkid: A metapackage is a package whose only purpose is to install a certain set of "proper" packages.
[07:51] <lesshaste> how do you get thunderbird with lightning support for ubuntu?
[07:51] <pike_> Riyonuk: id probably tar xfvz theme.tar.gz then sudo mv themdirectory /usr/share/themes/
[07:51] <enyc> trilingualkid: xubuntu kubuntu ubuntu edubuntu are all the same 'software source repository' -- just different cdds that install a different base-package at install-time
[07:51] <enyc> un_operateur: well fine.. it is a router indeed ;-)
[07:52] <henning> anybody here using xubuntu? I am thinking about trying this but I haven't found a list of the preinstalled applications xubuntu is using (mailer, browser, messenger, office,...)
[07:52] <Hirvinen> trilingualkid: Installing Ubuntu, then installing kubuntu-desktop and then removing ubuntu-desktop and all its dependencies is almost equivalent to installing Kubuntu.
[07:52] <stefg_> henning: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-fs3.html
[07:52] <uliss1> deepsa: ok, done. It was /etc/rc.local instead of /etc/rc.d/rc.local, but I think it is the right one
[07:53] <deepsa> uliss1: oh okay
[07:53] <stefg_> henning: firefox, thunderbird, no messenger, abiword or openoffice
[07:53] <yandel> How do I start a program at startup?
[07:53] <yandel> its currently in my /etc/init.d/
[07:53] <willskills> yandel - System > Preferences > Sessions
[07:53] <yandel> willskills: from there?
[07:54] <Zaggynl> gah
[07:54] <Zaggynl> getting sick of this
[07:54] <willskills> yandel, that is one way to do it, yeah
[07:54] <Zaggynl> -every- music player freezes once in a while
[07:54] <Zaggynl> I'm listening to music from an usb device
[07:54] <un_operateur> yandel, you need a symlink to one of the /etc/rc*.d directories -- depending on the runlevel you want the program/daemon to start in
[07:54] <henning> hmm
[07:54] <henning> no messenger is bad
[07:55] <un_operateur> yandel, if it's a user program, you shouldnt put it in either of those directories, rather in your WM's startup scripts
[07:55] <thing> jpjacobs: 404 still
[07:55] <adaptr> yandel: update-rc.d <programname> defaults
[07:55] <timo901> Zaggynl:you need a good set up to be able to use beryl the way it was intended and enjoy it
[07:55] <Zaggynl> timo901, euh wrong person I think
[07:56] <Zaggynl> timo901, I don't run beryl
[07:56] <timo901> ok , isee
[07:56] <adaptr> Zaggynl: why ever not ? :)
[07:56] <deepsa> timo901: i have intel 945 and beryl works great
[07:56] <PrimeHex|Games> timo901: you need beryl help?
[07:56] <PrimeHex|Games> timo901: what do you need help with?
[07:56] <Zaggynl> It's just fluff that will add more unstability
[07:56] <Zaggynl> I can't play any game with beryl, so meh
[07:57] <adaptr> Zaggynl: how do you know ?
[07:57] <borg> deepsa,
[07:57] <elTigr1> the ubuntu installer is crap
[07:57] <Zaggynl> and even if I can some way, the perfomance will be worse
[07:57] <adaptr> Zaggynl: oh so that's it ;-)
[07:57] <deepsa> borg:
[07:57] <Music_Shuffle> The installer works fine.
[07:57] <PrimeHex|Games> Zaggynl: see, I have it running on my fourth thread, so it doesn't affect performace at all for me
[07:57] <Aardwolf> Hi, I just installed ubuntu, but I'm having some problems. In select resolution, I can only select "60Hz" and it makes my eyes bleed. My monitor supports higher refresh rates. How can I make it to offer a higher refresh rate than 60Hz in the list?
[07:57] <PrimeHex|Games> Aardwolf: you need to edit the xorg.conf file to change it
[07:57] <elTigr1> for me it won't accept a simple partition as root partition and refuse to install on it
[07:57] <Zaggynl> PrimeHex|Games, fourth thread?
[07:58] <adaptr> Aardwolf: 60Hz is not a resolution....
[07:58] <borg> deepsa, which options do i select for the capture device under v4l in vlc to record to a file that can actually be read by other players?
[07:58] <deepsa> Aardwolf: configure /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:58] <PrimeHex|Games> Aardwolf: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:58] <PrimeHex|Games> Aardwolf: then go down to the display list, add your desired resolutions/refresh rates, and save
[07:58] <deepsa> borg: i have never done that maybe man vlc helps or vlc --help
[07:58] <adaptr> Aardwolf: you'll have to do some hacking of /etc/X11/xorg.conf to get it to understand your monitor
[07:58] <borg> deepsa, kk
[07:58] <elTigr1> even though the hard disk is brand new, nothing on it and it's /dev/hda1 that I want mounted on "/"... I simply can't see why the damn installer can't figure out what I want my root partition to be
[07:58] <PrimeHex|Games> Zaggynl: i'm on a x6800 Core2Duo, it has more then one processor/processing thread
[07:58] <Zaggynl> PrimeHex|Games, oh
[07:58] <PrimeHex|Games> :D
[07:59] <Aardwolf> ok, I already edited xorg.conf for it but still didn't see the 60Hz in the list, can it be that it's solved after a reboot?
[07:59] <Zaggynl> Can someone explain me while my usb hdd keeps resetting?
[07:59] <Aardwolf> *still only saw the 60Hz
[07:59] <Zaggynl> *why
[07:59] <PrimeHex|Games> Aardwolf: did you do it in the same format that was already listen (with quotes and such)
[07:59] <timo901> its snowing here guys :)
[07:59] <Zaggynl> I keep seeing this: 'Dec 27 19:55:24 localhost kernel: [17208323.940000]  usb 5-1: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 2'
[07:59] <Aardwolf> yep I just changed the numbers :)
[07:59] <Zaggynl> in my syslog
[07:59] <PrimeHex|Games> Aardwolf: if so, use control+alt+backspace to restard X, it will close everything though so save things before you do it xD
[07:59] <PrimeHex|Games> s/d/t/
[07:59] <elTigr1> ah now I get it... the installer doesn't want to install on reiserf
[08:00] <elTigr1> s
[08:01] <uliss1> deepsa: it worked, now I only have to deal with that crappy synch that often doesn't work...
[08:01] <uliss1> deepsa: thank you
[08:02] <PrimeHex|Games> Aardwolf: are you going to restart X, or are you about to pingout
[08:02] <PrimeHex|Games> methinks second
[08:02] <nolimitsoya> can i use tab indents withing bash scripts without any ill effects?
[08:02] <Aardwolf> I'm in windows atm, just looked up my DNS server ip, hopefully that will allow me to fix the other problem, the network :D
[08:02] <PrimeHex|Games> Aardwolf: ah ok
[08:03] <lesshaste> how do you get thunderbird with lightning support for ubuntu?
[08:04] <kbrooks__> nolimitsoya, whitespace is stripped by bash.
[08:04] <nolimitsoya> kbrooks__, thank you :)
[08:04] <timo901> later guys,playing on GTR 2
[08:04] <kbrooks__> nolimitsoya, but not entirely.
[08:04] <un_operateur> bash doesn't really care about space -- although the commands it encloses might be space-sensitive
[08:05] <nolimitsoya> kbrooks__, meaning?
[08:05] <kbrooks__> nolimitsoya, meaning...
[08:05] <kbrooks__> var=x # good
[08:05] <kbrooks__> var = x # bad
[08:05] <nolimitsoya> kbrooks__, that much is understood :)
[08:06] <kbrooks__> nolimitsoya, :-)
[08:06] <Zaggynl> Anyone knows of a stable usb2 driver?
[08:06] <MetaBookfoziS> hi all
[08:06] <Zaggynl> Mine keeps resetting
[08:07] <MetaBookfoziS> what program can open apassword protected rar file?
[08:07] <Zaggynl> opening will work, extracting not
[08:07] <stefg> !rar-nonfree
[08:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rar-nonfree - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:07] <stefg> !rar
[08:07] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[08:08] <Aardwolf> great, both the refresh rate and network problem solved, thanks :)
[08:08] <gleaner> hi I have a question
[08:09] <gleaner> can I get a precompiled deb package of liferea feed reader for 6.06 dapper somewhere?
[08:09] <gleaner> can I get a precompiled package of liferea feed reader for 6.06 dapper somewhere?
[08:09] <AlexC_> Hey, guys - I've broke Gnome. KDE Killed it. I removed KDE via "sudo aptitude purge kubuntu-desktop" and no the panels in Gnome wont load
[08:10] <AlexC_> when I start the Gnome session it says the panels are already running
[08:10] <gleaner> remove your  ~/.gnome* dirs?
[08:10] <Aardwolf> I have "ubuntu", not "kubuntu" but would like to use KDE, how can I install KDE on it?
[08:10] <AlexC_> Aardwolf: "sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop"
[08:10] <LVEB> hello
[08:10] <stefg> AlexC_: sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop?
[08:11] <AlexC_> Aardwolf: but beware when you uninstall it, it can mess up Gnome ( happened twice to me now )
[08:11] <AlexC_> stefg: ok hold o
[08:11] <gleaner> AlexC_ rm ~./gnome
[08:11] <AlexC_> s/o/on
[08:11] <Aardwolf> not really a problem :)
[08:11] <gleaner> AlexC_ rm -rf~./gnome
[08:11] <AlexC_> gleaner: why would I want to remove my gnome folder?
[08:11] <gleaner> no sorry
[08:11] <gleaner> maybe something  corrupt
[08:12] <LVEB> can i use ubuntu with 450mhz and 160mo of ram
[08:12] <AlexC_> gleaner: yeah but that would get rid of all my config files too, wont it
[08:12] <gleaner> I had that happen to me and I wiped the  .gnome folders and rest it all
[08:12] <gleaner> yeah
[08:12] <lesshaste> how do you get thunderbird with lightning support for ubuntu?
[08:12] <gleaner> its a painful way togo
[08:12] <AlexC_> well I'd rather that not happen =)
[08:12] <oscar_1101> i am trying to get azureus going in ubuntu, i am having NAT problems, i think i have configured my modem and acess points to correctly virtual server the ports over, still not going, do i need to unblock a port with iptables or is that just crazy? - cheers
[08:12] <gleaner> does anyone know where can I get a precompiled package of liferea feed reader for 6.06 dapper somewhere?
[08:13] <gleaner> help
[08:13] <teclo> what tool can I use to easily configure which WLAN access point I want to use ?
[08:13] <LVEB> i think it's better than i use xubuntu
[08:13] <Aardwolf> aptitude can't find any packages named kubuntu-desktop, nor "kde"
[08:13] <Aardwolf> do I have to enable some repositories maybe?
[08:13] <LVEB> ?
[08:14] <inglor> hey, my reps are becoming anoying, how do I reset them to default?
[08:14] <inglor> I want to reset my reps to the system default
[08:14] <inglor> because I get all sort of odd stuff nowdays
[08:14] <LVEB> vive la france
[08:14] <stefg> inglor: thanks to our highly appreciated Seveas we have source-o-matic now working for edgy...
[08:15] <compu73rg33k> I switched monitors, from a 19" Dell to a 21" Mitsubishi, how shoudl I go about getting xserver to redetect the monitor to make the necessary changes in the xorg.conf ?
[08:15] <stefg> !easysource
[08:15] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:15] <inglor> source-o-matic?
[08:15] <gleaner> vive le quebec libre!
[08:15] <inglor> thanks a lot :)
[08:15] <anonymousmoose> je ne parle pas francais
[08:15] <anonymousmoose> desolee
[08:15] <inglor> what a great idea =)
[08:15] <gleaner> anonymousmoose you're in season
[08:15] <AlexC_> gleaner: I worked it out, "sudo killall gnome-panel" then "gnome-panel" .... much better than deleting the gnome dir!
[08:15] <anonymousmoose> Ok, anyway, I'm partioning my HDD right now, how long does that take/
[08:16] <anonymousmoose> *?
[08:16] <mazyhaze> 5 min 3 sec
[08:16] <stefg> !fixres | compu73rg33k
[08:16] <ubotu> compu73rg33k: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:17] <AlexC_> mazyhaze: close, I think it's 5 mins 3.523
[08:17] <anonymousmoose> Is that how long it's really supposed to take?
[08:17] <AlexC_> anonymousmoose: try it and see
[08:17] <anonymousmoose> because it's taking a lot longer
[08:17] <yodaz> hi all
[08:17] <pacchitiello> buona sera
[08:17] <gleaner> so o one knows where I can get a lifere bin package for 6.06?
[08:17] <pacchitiello> parlate italiano
[08:17] <daviey> Hi, my package 'language-pack-gnome-en-base' is broken.  But i cannot re-install it :( Any tips?
[08:17] <anonymousmoose> no parlo italiano
[08:17] <gleaner> I want to run it in a clean foom fashion from alive distro
[08:17] <AlexC_> daviey: sudo apt-get install --reinstall language-pack-gnome-en-base
[08:18] <stefg> gleaner... if goggle doesn't turn up with one... cahnaces are there's none
[08:18] <pacchitiello> we fsfaccim
[08:18] <marcin_> siema wszystkim ;d;d
[08:18] <gleaner> thnks stefg
[08:18] <yodaz> I can get ltsp to work with dapper, ldm does not log on, it flashes the screen and then return to log in prompt, anybody have an idea ?
[08:18] <inglor> what would be the best way to go on about playing a dvd in ubuntu?
[08:18] <yodaz> I have done ltsp-update-sshkeys without success
[08:18] <marcin_> halo mwi kto ?
[08:19] <daviey> AlexC_, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39053/
[08:19] <stefg> yodaz: I'd suggest #edubuntu for that, they use ltsp a lot
[08:19] <anonymousmoose> So it's really supposed to take 5 minutes? Because it's taken more than two hours. Sorry for such a noobish question. Also, if I have it running in the other workspace, will it actually be doing anything if I'm not using that workspace?
[08:19] <yodaz> stefg: ok, thanks
[08:19] <inglor> !dvd
[08:19] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[08:19] <compu73rg33k> thanks stefg, I'll try it out
[08:20] <stefg> !pl | marcin_
[08:20] <ubotu> marcin_: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[08:21] <porter_> hi
[08:21] <daviey> AlexC_, it didn't work :(
[08:21] <light_> where is the grub config file?
[08:21] <yodaz> light_: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:21] <light_> thanks
[08:21] <Aardwolf> aptidude says "Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "kubuntu-desktop"", how can I install KDE anyway? (on Ubuntu)
[08:21] <anonymousmoose> will applications in the other workspace be active if I'm not using that workspace?
[08:21] <stefg> light_ are you sure you want to touch it ? :-)
[08:22] <marcin_> !pl
[08:22] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[08:22] <yodaz> Aardwolf: try apt-get update
[08:22] <yodaz> or aptitude update
[08:22] <light_> stefg, nah.. just for back up
[08:22] <yodaz> and check your sources.list
[08:22] <porter_> is ubuntu somehow the $successor of simplymepis ?
[08:22] <stefg> light_: the best reason i can think of :-)
[08:22] <light_> :)
[08:22] <Aardwolf> I did aptitude update, then tried again, and again it says it can't find such package
[08:22] <porter_> somehow...?
[08:22] <anonymousmoose> I guess I'll just ask the forum
[08:22] <Aardwolf> and, it also doesn't for example find a package "xmms"
[08:23] <marcin_> thx stefg :)
[08:23] <Aardwolf> so how can I get KDE then?
[08:23] <stefg> Aardwolf: get a fresh sources.list from !easysource, sudo apt-get update and try again
[08:23] <Aardwolf> (and xmms)
[08:24] <Aardwolf> !easysource
[08:24] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:24] <Aardwolf> should I use apt-get or aptitude?
[08:24] <inglor> this source-o-matic thing worked great, now VLC is installing fine
[08:24] <inglor> thanks a lot :)
[08:24] <SpacePuppy> IPOD's on linux.. no problem right? just another filesystem?
[08:25] <inglor> ubuntu opens the iPod as a disk on key by default
[08:25] <inglor> and you can play stuff on it in rhythembox
[08:25] <inglor> !ipod
[08:25] <SpacePuppy> cool.. thx
[08:25] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[08:25] <stefg> A!amarok | inglor
[08:26] <stefg> !amarok | inglor
[08:26] <ubotu> inglor: Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.4 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[08:26] <stefg> ^ that works ^
[08:26] <inglor> amarok can do iPods now? coolstuff
[08:26] <daviey> How can i repair a package!?!?  --force-all and --reinstall are not sorting the problem out
[08:26] <stefg> !info amarok
[08:26] <ubotu> amarok: versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.4.3-0ubuntu10 (edgy), package size 14370 kB, installed size 31288 kB
[08:26] <daviey> Log of my problems: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39053/
[08:27] <stefg> inglor: you'll need the 1.4 series
[08:27] <xphree> Hello all, anyone knows how to solve the BUG of mysql-server caused by GCC with 3dnow ?
[08:27] <xphree> or.. where are optional mysql repositories for amd64 ?
[08:27] <xphree> i have the server down cuz of the bug... :(
[08:28] <daviey> can somebody help me :(
[08:28] <xphree> Refer to bug Bug #66702
[08:28] <Aardwolf> by the way I appear to have ubuntu 5.10 (it was the most recent cdrom I found), does kubuntu-desktop exist for this?
[08:28] <gnufied> any idea, when new rubu bug fix release will trinkle through main repos?
[08:28] <wiz> I see my ubuntu has festival after initial install, what speech device is it? I can't seem to find /dev/speech
[08:28] <Zaggynl> Hi, I put my external usb hdd in fstab, but it doesn't get mounted
[08:28] <Zaggynl> after a sudo mount -a it does
[08:28] <Zaggynl> what gives?
[08:29] <daviey> Zaggynl, have you rebooted?
[08:29] <Zaggynl> yep
[08:29] <gnufied> i am kinda avoiding compiling it from source code
[08:29] <daviey> Zaggynl, no idea then.. sorry
[08:29] <Zaggynl> np
[08:29] <MagicNet> is it better to use 6.06 or 6.10/ubuntu? What is most stable etc??
[08:29] <trilingualkid> Are there any distros that imitate mac os x?
[08:29] <Zaggynl> dapper should be more stable
[08:29] <Zaggynl> 6.06
[08:29] <bruenig> MagicNet, I think the consensus appears to be 6.06 is more stable, but I find 6.10 better myself
[08:30] <Zaggynl> trilingualkid, you can set up your desktop manager to look like mac osx
[08:30] <stefg> 6.10 is not production rady IMHO, while 6.06 stabilized over time
[08:30] <trilingualkid> zaggynl: how do i do that?
[08:30] <bruenig> MagicNet, although I did go from ubuntu to xubuntu in the 6.06 to 6.10 switch so that might be apples and oranges
[08:30] <MagicNet> ok
[08:30] <MagicNet> ty.
[08:30] <daviey> Has anybody used the repair option of ubuntu edgy?  If so what does it actually do?  What does it repair / replace?
[08:30] <Zaggynl> trilingualkid, custom gnome or kde themes etc
[08:30] <trilingualkid> zaggynl: how do i get those themes?
[08:31] <Zaggynl> trilingualkid, you download them from various sites
[08:31] <elTigr1> well, using the term "production ready" in conjunction with any linux desktop is a joke...
[08:31] <Some_Person> ok, i set my modem (router?) to give me a private ip address
[08:31] <Zaggynl> yeah
[08:31] <trilingualkid> zaggynl: can you give an example of one of these sites?
[08:31] <gRaCiOsO> i installed a generic driver for my webcam called spca5xx but when i start camorama to test my webcam it says "could not connect to video device (/dev/video0). Please check connection. someone could help me?
[08:31] <Zaggynl> trilingualkid, sure, hold on
[08:31] <Some_Person> how do i configure it in ubuntu?
[08:31] <bruenig> depends, take ubuntu load it with codecs and stuff, then it is production ready
[08:31] <bruenig> linux mint therefore is production ready
[08:31] <daviey> gRaCiOsO, have you tried accessing it as root?
[08:31] <stefg> elTgr1: but calling win production ready is even a bigger one :-)
[08:32] <jodok> hello, i'm trying to debootstrap dapper from a debian sarge installation. i always receive /usr/sbin/debootstrap: line 3: finddebs_style: command not found. any idea?
[08:32] <wiz> How does the festival speech stuff work on out of the box edgy?
[08:32] <gRaCiOsO> daviey,  yes its the same
[08:32] <daviey> gRaCiOsO, worth a try.... ;)
[08:32] <kbrooks__> what does production ready mean?
[08:32] <bruenig> kbrooks__, ready to produce things on seems to be the literal meaning
[08:32] <Zaggynl> trilingualkid, http://www.gnome-look.org
[08:32] <stefg> it just works, and doesn't bother you with stupid/nasty bugs twice a day
[08:33] <gRaCiOsO> daviey, i did it with gksu camorama  and it says (camorama:5917): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[08:33] <gRaCiOsO> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[08:33] <fenrig> how can i configure the bootloader on the live cd of ubuntu?
[08:33] <trilingualkid> Zaggynl: thank you, Zaggynl. i will look at it.
[08:33] <bruenig> gRaCiOsO, gksudo camorama
[08:33] <Aardwolf> how can I get KDE on ubuntu 5.10?
[08:33] <ploom> apt-get kubuntu?
[08:33] <bruenig> Aardwolf, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:33] <gRaCiOsO> bruenig,  same message
[08:34] <bruenig> gRaCiOsO, does it launch though, I know gksudo gedit gives that same warning but always launches
[08:34] <Aardwolf> I already tried apt-get and aptitude, they know of no such package named kubuntu-desktop, not even after "update"
[08:34] <Some_Person> how do i set up my dsl in ubuntu? i have a "private ip" now
[08:34] <fenrig> how can i configure the bootloader using the live cd of ubuntu?
[08:34] <bruenig> Aardwolf, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:34] <bruenig> !paste | Aardwolf
[08:34] <ubotu> Aardwolf: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:35] <fenrig> !grub
[08:35] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:35] <gRaCiOsO> bruenig,  yeah but it says could not connect with video device (/dev/video0)
[08:35] <stefg> Aardwolf: what does 'apt-cache search kde' tell you? (cough, cough may i remind you that linux is case sensitive ...)
[08:35] <gRaCiOsO> i installed generic driver for it maybe is it bad?
[08:35] <Aardwolf> bruenig, here it is: http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=26767
[08:36] <metroman> When do nicknames expire on this server?
[08:36] <Some_Person> i need help setting up my dsl
[08:36] <Aardwolf> "apt-cache search kde" returns a huge list of both kde related and non-kde-related things
[08:36] <bruenig> Aardwolf, remove the # out from the beginning of every line that begins with deb, and delete the last line
[08:37] <kbrooks__> metroman, register with nickserv, then your nickname cannot be taken by someone else unless they have an password.
[08:37] <chrissturm> does the mysql5 package only listen on localhost by default, or is it accessible from remote?
[08:37] <eyalw> hi
[08:37] <mike> Greetings.  I have a question about Ubuntu and unionfs.  Is there anyone here that can answer a technical question?
[08:37] <Some_Person> please help
[08:37] <felixjet> can i recover a sudo password if i forgot it?
[08:37] <chrissturm> felixjet: you cant
[08:37] <bruenig> gRaCiOsO, that sounds like it might be an error with the program, not gksudo
[08:37] <kbrooks__> metroman, (which they won't, if you have a good hard head which can resist telepathic attempts)
[08:37] <ludo__> felixjet , your sudo password is your own account password
[08:37] <felixjet> i forgot it
[08:37] <metroman> kbrooks__: I know but this nickname is already registered by someone.
[08:37] <chrissturm> felixjet: the sudo password is just your user password
[08:37] <felixjet> i forgot it
[08:37] <bruenig> felixjet, so you can't get into your account?
[08:38] <felixjet> auto login
[08:38] <kbrooks__> metroman, let me see.
[08:38] <gRaCiOsO> bruenig,  ok thanks i will try with another driver
[08:38] <xphree> hello
[08:38] <felixjet> i have auto login
[08:38] <stefg> felixjet: only way is to boot up a Live-CD, chroot as root into the system on hd and run 'passwd root'
[08:38] <chrissturm> felixjet: if you have autologin, you can find the password somewhere in the gdm config
[08:38] <xphree> anyone knows how to solve the mysql problem in ubuntu server amd64 _???
[08:38] <ludo__> felixjet, if you are using your computer on local you can log in maintenace mode as root
[08:38] <Some_Person> who was i talking to earlier about my dsl?
[08:38] <mike> felixjet, if you logged into the main desktop, that means your username's password was ok.  This should be the same password as for sudo.
[08:39] <kbrooks__> metroman, well, technically it has expired already. contact a staff and ask them to drop metroman from nickserv.
[08:39] <kbrooks__> metroman, use /stats p
[08:39] <bruenig> mike, auto login, therefore no password is given
[08:39] <ludo__> mike, yes but auto login is on and he forgot it
[08:39] <felixjet> for recovery mode ill be able to auto log on the sudo acc?
[08:39] <felixjet> or i need pass
[08:39] <metroman> kbrooks__: Who can I contact?
[08:39] <kbrooks__> metroman, i said use /stats p
[08:39] <chrissturm> felixjet: start recovery mode, and then enter passwd <username>
[08:39] <ludo__> felix, no pass needed but yu can change your user password
[08:39] <kbrooks__> metroman, to find out who you can contact
[08:39] <crouic6> hello and happy new year!
[08:39] <bruenig> felixjet, probably going to need to do what stefg said
[08:39] <eyalw> hi, i wanna program in c and create BPDU packets, to test my new learnings, how can i crate IP Packets in C?
[08:39] <metroman> kbrooks__: Ok, got it. Thanks.
[08:39] <mike> ah, then the live-cd seems a plausible solution, used to do that with Fedora too.
[08:39] <chrissturm> felixjet: and assign a new password
[08:39] <pike_> felixjet: yeah in single user mode (recovery) "su username" then "passwd"
[08:40] <crouic6> I have a little problem with a sound card
[08:40] <pike_> felixjet: or just passwd username
[08:40] <felixjet> i see, ill try
[08:40] <kbrooks__> pike_, no, you mean... sudo passwd username
[08:40] <chrissturm> pike_: su username and then passwd wont work
[08:40] <metroman> How come nobody uses PMs in here?
[08:40] <pike_> yeah i forgot it would prompt for old
[08:40] <bruenig> Aardwolf, did that work?
[08:40] <kbrooks__> pike_, su does not, has not, and never will work on an ubuntu default installation.
[08:40] <crouic6> is there somebody who can help me ?
[08:40] <eyalw> hi, how can i crate IP Packets in C?
[08:41] <crouic6> on ubuntu edgy
[08:41] <chrissturm> hmm, anyone know if the mysql package listens only on localhost by default?
[08:41] <Hydronaut> hello everyone. can anyone help w/ Evolution password entry for authentication to my sbc server?
[08:41] <stefg> !anyone  | crouic6
[08:41] <ubotu> crouic6: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:41] <squeakypants> my audio doesn't work, how can I get it?
[08:41] <crouic6> ok
[08:41] <pike_> kbrooks__: su username should work fine just not su root correct?
[08:41] <stefg> !sound
[08:41] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[08:41] <kbrooks__> pike_, by "work", i mean "work out of the box". by that, i mean that you use sudo <command> w/ your user password.
[08:41] <crouic6> I have a sound card hercules fortissimo 3
[08:41] <pike_> kbrooks__: yeah i assumed he'd boot to single user shell
[08:42] <Aardwolf> bruenig, I did it and then used update. Now it seems to have a huge amount of packages, and something in ubuntu said there were updates available. However, it still doesn't appear to find "kubuntu-desktop"!$
[08:42] <squeakypants> thanks
[08:42] <stefg> !sound | crouic6
[08:42] <ubotu> crouic6: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[08:42] <crouic6> I have sound but I have a problem with the micro
[08:42] <Aardwolf> it still says "Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "kubuntu-desktop"", and then "The following packages have been kept back:" and a huge list of packages
[08:42] <mike> I have a question.  I have 2 computers, and possibly down the line more.  I'd like to have a base Ubuntu on my harddrive, and use unionfs to "layer" all my customizations on top of it including application installs, icewm instead of gnome, etc.  Then I'd like ot check in the unionfs layers into a CVS or SVN repository, and make all my computers use that.  Where exactly would I have the unionfs mount statements?
[08:42] <kbrooks__> pike_, actually, i really mean that su will give an error
[08:42] <stefg> Aardwolf: your dpkg appears seriously screwed
[08:42] <KHatfull> ping rauble
[08:43] <bruenig> Aardwolf, well do sudo apt-get upgrade, let that run through, you are probably missing a ton of updates since you had all of the repositories commented out
[08:43] <Riyonuk> When I boot up ubuntu, I get the Xubuntu screen, I want to get rid of Xubuntu, Xef or whatever its called, how do I?
[08:43] <crouic6> i can hear what I say but it's impossible to record my voice whith the micro
[08:43] <pike_> kbrooks__: i use it all the time example 'su - username -c "sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf" ' or something
[08:43] <Hydronaut> hello. need help with Evolution password authentication (entry)
[08:43] <crouic6> and on skype nobody hear me
[08:43] <stefg> Riyonuk: sudo dpkg-reconfigure uplash
[08:43] <Aardwolf> Normally nothing should be screwed... this is a freshly installed ubuntu 5.10 (too bad I didn't have a newer one available)
[08:44] <blitznl> just deleted the applet that shows the strength of my wireless connection and battery life, any idea how to get that back? (can't find them in the 'add to panel' section)
[08:44] <stefg> Riyonuk: sudo dpkg-reconfigure *usplash*
[08:44] <un_operateur> pike, why mix su and sudo in the same command?
[08:44] <chrissturm> whats the best way to find out what open ports my ubuntu server has?
[08:44] <KHatfull> chrissturm: http://www.grc.com  do a scan from there, works wel
[08:44] <pike_> un_operateur: just an example i normally use it like su - username -c "vncserver" or something like that.
[08:44] <KHatfull> well even
[08:45] <mike> chrissturm: netstat -tp, or netstat -tnp
[08:45] <stefg> chrissturm: i'd suggest a 'man netstat'
[08:45] <chrissturm> KHatfull: cool, thanks. I'm actually a customer of them
[08:45] <KHatfull> chrisstrum: assuming it's publicly accessable
[08:45] <mike> chrissturm: also try: lsof -i
[08:45] <Aardwolf> bruenig, to do apt-get upgrade it wants to download 183MB of files. I'd like to upgrade, but to save bandwidth I'd like it to not upgrade openoffice. How can I let it upgrade everything, except openoffice?
[08:45] <chrissturm> spinrite is just extremely cool
[08:45] <Ashton_Ke> Hello.
[08:45] <KHatfull> chrissturm: look for the Shields Up scan
[08:45] <bruenig> Aardwolf, I know there is a way but I forget how to do it
[08:45] <mike> anyone here knows anything about unionfs?
[08:46] <stefg> Aardwolf: apt-pinning...
[08:46] <sjnovick> Hi.  I have a question about powernowd.  My mouse acts all crazy with Ubuntu (but strangely enough, not with Debian).  It has been suggested that I uninstall powernowd, which has been shown to fix the problem for old Dell laptops like mine.  Is it dangerous to turn off powernowd ???
[08:46] <michael_>  /RAWLOG OPEN ~/mylog.log
[08:46] <michael_> doesn't work
[08:46] <michael_> strange
[08:46] <Riyonuk> stefg, well I think xubuntu has takes over everything, I want to complete obleteriate it from my machine
[08:47] <KHatfull> chrisstrum: and you're interested in what;s publicly accesable...Shields Up won't help you with ALL open ports as mike and stefg said
[08:47] <Aardwolf> is it possible to upgrade from 5.10 to a higher version this way?
[08:47] <michael_>  /LOG OPEN ~/mylog.log
[08:47] <Lynoure> mike: Are you keeping count, or do you have an actual question you are waiting to ask?
[08:47] <un_operateur> mike, all i know it's a filesystem that likes to be based in RAM and therefore is popular among the Live CD distros
[08:47] <kbrooks__> Can iptables be configured to send packet info to an command, whose return status it uses to decide whether to accept or reject a packet?
[08:47] <mike> sjnovick - probably worst that'll happen is that your system will run slow or else waste battery power.
[08:47] <Aardwolf> or do I have to download a new cdrom to get version 6?
[08:47] <LameBMX> Riyonuk: if you delete it from your machine .. it will still be resident in the rest of the electronics in your house man ... its takin over lol
[08:47] <Riyonuk> :o
[08:47] <sjnovick> mike -- thanks.
[08:47] <Riyonuk> no wai
[08:47] <LameBMX> lol
[08:47] <stefg> Riyonuk: sudo apt-get remove --purge xubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[08:47] <cmt^^> Anyone with experience using a Palm Tungsten with Ubuntu?
[08:47] <cmt^^> !pda
[08:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pda - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:47] <mike> I'm trying an interesting setup using unionfs.
[08:47] <cmt^^> !palm
[08:47] <ubotu> A good guide for setting up Palm devices is at http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/PalmOS-HOWTO.html#PC-CONNECT-USB
[08:47] <Riyonuk> gosh, how do you remmeber these commands
[08:47] <kbrooks__> Can iptables be configured to send packet info to an command, whose return status it uses to decide whether to accept or reject a packet?
[08:48] <Riyonuk> its crazy!
[08:48] <kbrooks__> If so, how?
[08:48] <deepsa> !hello
[08:48] <ubotu> hello: The classic greeting, and a good example. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1-4 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 472 kB
[08:48] <mike> I know that wiht unionfs, I can "layer" a writable layer on top of a read only layer.
[08:48] <un_operateur> stefg, xubuntu-desktop is a meta package, so thats quite likely to purge very little
[08:48] <chrissturm> is there an intrusion detection system that is recommended for ubuntu?
[08:48] <stefg> un_operateur: that's by intention :-)
[08:48] <LameBMX> nice
[08:48] <deepsa> chrissturm: snort
[08:48] <kbrooks__> mike, yeah, you can layer layers on top of each other.
[08:48] <un_operateur> stefg, all the xfce/xubuntu packages are still going to be around anyway
[08:48] <LameBMX> "/list dont work too well on here
[08:48] <mike> So what I would like to do is have a fixed Ubuntu install on my harddrive (kinda like a cd but then on the harddrive), and have it so that all the changes are made in that "layer".
[08:49] <Hydronaut> ok. last try. my Evolution email client does not allow for a password field, which my isp server requires for POP authentication, etc. help
[08:49] <KHatfull> chrissturm: are you testing the ubuntu box or testing other hosts?
[08:49] <LameBMX> anyone here done a fakeraid install ... if so please pm me i got a few questions regarding how they got it too work
[08:49] <mike> Then I'd like to copy that "layer" into a CVS repository so that I can share it between multiple computers.
[08:49] <un_operateur> mike, why don't you just have a RAMdisk ? :)
[08:49] <chrissturm> KHatfull: I'm testing the ubuntu server that i am currently installing on my new dedicated server
[08:49] <KHatfull> If looking for something to test other hosts, nessus is another option, tho I don;t know if it;s in the repos
[08:49] <yandel> what known anti-virus work with Ubuntu?
[08:49] <LameBMX> also for people .. here .. mount time ... to mount local file systems .. i get a divide by 0 error
[08:49] <LameBMX> fakeraid
[08:50] <stefg> LameBMX: what'cha mean with 'fakeraid' ?
[08:50] <un_operateur> yandel, clamav
[08:50] <mike> At work I could install, say "mplayer" and tune it and everything, check in the layer into CVS, and at home I'd do a check out, and it's all there.
[08:50] <kbrooks__> Hydronaut, you aren't looking hard enough. unfortunately, i can't  really help you from windows, unless you install a vnc server.
[08:50] <yandel> guys
[08:50] <chrissturm> KHatfull: i tested it with nmap now, seems to have only http, ssh, smtp open
[08:50] <Lynoure> mike: It does indeed sound like a very interesting setup, I hope you share it with the world once you have ironed the kinks out.
[08:50] <yandel> what known anti virus work with ubuntu?
[08:50] <LameBMX> stefg: driver based hardware raid ...
[08:50] <stefg> !clamav
[08:50] <ubotu> clamav: antivirus scanner for Unix. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.88.4-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 65 kB, installed size 208 kB
[08:50] <kbrooks__> mike, thats nice
[08:50] <LameBMX> yandel you dont really need it
[08:50] <elTigr1> how can I get a higher display resolution?
[08:50] <un_operateur> mike, roaming profiles then -- unionfs is tied to a single-machine in that machine's RAM
[08:50] <mazyhaze> get that problem: http://uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0608.3/0225.html while booting the install cd
[08:50] <yandel> besides clamav
[08:51] <nolimitsoya> how do i change the port settings of mail servers in evolution?
[08:51] <yandel> LameBMX: we do because we also work with Windows boxes
[08:51] <elTigr1> !xorg
[08:51] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:51] <LameBMX> stefg: ie intel 875p chipset ... ich5r southbride .. sata raid0 install
[08:51] <LameBMX> yandel: sorry i didnt think about that till after i hit enter
[08:51] <mike> I could completely customize everything, including switching to IceWM, customize that.  I'd only have to do it once.
[08:51] <Hydronaut> kbrooks. thanks for a response. when I choose 'password', no drop-dwn field appears to enter a password
[08:51] <Toulous1> to restart x, cant you just type ctrl+alt+shift
[08:51] <yandel> else besides ClamAV something known
[08:51] <yandel> like symantec stuff, panda, etc...
[08:52] <mike> roaming profiles, sounds interesting.  I want to be able to do this without needing the CD, is that possible?
[08:52] <nolimitsoya> Toulous1, shouldnt that be ctrl+alt+backspace :)
[08:52] <pike_> Toulous1: ctrl-alt-bkspace
[08:52] <stefg> LameBMX: ah... people tend to use the native soft-raid facilities in linux (as i do) and avoid those controllerless 'raid-adapters'
[08:52] <un_operateur> mike, yep, thats the whole point of a "roaming profile" or "roaming home directory" .. portable across many machines
[08:52] <LameBMX> stefg: but how do you boot it ... i got dmraid setup n junk but im having some issues when i try the harddrive boot
[08:52] <LameBMX> stefg: dmraid needs to be updated but new package is broke etc etc
[08:52] <Aardwolf> Is there something for gnome, that is similar to Kate?
[08:53] <Hydronaut> kbrooks: where do I look?
[08:53] <mike> could I do apt-gets and do things like adjust files in /etc and have all those changes stored into that separate layer?
[08:53] <nolimitsoya> Aardwolf, emacs?
[08:53] <Toulous1> hey guys, how do i connect to Quakenet in Gaim?
[08:53] <stefg> LameBMX: i have a 100 MB non-raid /boot... where the kernel and initrd live...
[08:53] <nolimitsoya> Aardwolf, or scribble :)
[08:53] <LameBMX> stefg: im dual booting with windows ...
[08:53] <nolimitsoya> Aardwolf, perhaps gedit, if your demands are low
[08:53] <chrissturm> is there an article somewhere about the differences between normal software raid and lvm ?
[08:53] <Aardwolf> the "demands" are a text editor with built in terminal and a list of open files on the left :)
[08:53] <chrissturm> Aardwolf: scite
[08:53] <stefg> LameBMX: so am I ...
[08:54] <un_operateur> mike, well obviously not -- only the user's home directory is portable in those circumstances -- but you could have your way if you installed linux on a portable USB pen drive or such
[08:54] <LameBMX> stefg: that goes against my policy ... my other 2 harddrives are for backup only
[08:54] <pike_> Toulous1: offtopic but if you like quake try tremulous tremulous.info
[08:54] <Aardwolf> and source code highlighting
[08:54] <Aardwolf> and identation options :)
[08:54] <un_operateur> Aardwolf, gvim maybe? :)
[08:54] <Toulous1> pike_: huh? tremulous?
[08:54] <nolimitsoya> Aardwolf, id suggest emacs or scribble
[08:55] <Toulous1> what is it?
[08:55] <mike> I need to be able to run the multiple computers simultaneously, plus, it'd probably not fit on a USB key.
[08:55] <LameBMX> stefg: right now its set for /dev/mapper/isgw**** 120 for windows .. 2 for swap and the 118 for nix
[08:55] <mazyhaze> ubunutu installation hangs while booting
[08:55] <chrissturm> Aardwolf: scribes is quite nice, as is scite
[08:55] <LameBMX> and it tries to boot ...
[08:55] <nolimitsoya> Toulous1, its a foss shooter game
[08:55] <mazyhaze> checksum is ok
[08:55] <Toulous1> okie doke
[08:55] <Aardwolf> allright, I'll try them :)
[08:55] <dtek> Help with  Graphic card config
[08:55] <pike_> Toulous1: free online strategy fps
[08:55] <un_operateur> mike, unless you run a cluster, each machine maintains it's own system volumes, otherwise you dont have the distinction of "different" machines
[08:55] <Seveas> mneptok, is all of canonical on holidays?
[08:55] <LameBMX> stefg: it makes it too mounting local file system the dies
[08:55] <Hydronaut> kbrooks: I'll work on the vnc server. see ya later...
[08:56] <mike> I'm thinking to insert a unionfs mount statement somewhere in /etc/init.d, and then do a chroot into that hybrid environment.  It'd probably need a /proc and a couple of other things too.
[08:56] <hmg4> What is the best way to get as much information about current CPU and MOBO, and CPU temp?
[08:56] <chrissturm> strange that snort is in universe
[08:56] <nolimitsoya> how do i change the port settings of mail servers in evolution for use with gmail?
[08:56] <dtek> My S3 ProSavage DDR does not work.. installation cant see it and i dont know how to tweak xorg to make it work.. please someone help e
[08:56] <mike> So when the system boots, somewhere in the middle, or perhaps early in the boot process, it'll suddenly jump into that "layered" projection.
[08:57] <hmg4> nolimitsoya: mail.server.com:port
[08:57] <nolimitsoya> hmg4, thank you :)
[08:57] <yandel> yo
[08:57] <yandel> which known anti virus work with Ubuntu?
[08:57] <stefg> LameBMX: as i said... i can't help you much. i use softraid for my main linux /, but don't use it in win (doesn't improve performance anyway, and make things more complicated)
[08:57] <Toulous1> how do i connect to a different server in gaim
[08:57] <hmg4> nolimitsoya: You're welcome
[08:57] <un_operateur> !clamav | yandel
[08:57] <ubotu> clamav: antivirus scanner for Unix. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.88.4-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 65 kB, installed size 208 kB
[08:57] <Riyonuk> So what do I need to remove to remove XFCE? I dont see the main file in Synaptic
[08:57] <kbrooks__> what is softraid?
[08:57] <yandel> dude
[08:57] <yandel> besides clamav
[08:57] <un_operateur> yandel, aptitude search "anti.*virus"
[08:58] <stefg> !raid
[08:58] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[08:58] <kbrooks__> yandel, why r u worried about viruses
[08:58] <dtek> Hey does anyone knows..?? help please
[08:58] <Seveas> kbrooks__, raid managed by software instead of a hardware controller
[08:58] <jbroome> yandel: i hate to reward someone for spamming their question, but the f-prot installer is in the repos and works well
[08:58] <LameBMX> stefg: id agree with softraid in windows .. dynamic cut my throughput in half ... but i do know the fakeraid in windows worked really good and hoping for the same under nix
[08:59] <kbrooks__> jbroome, what repos? :-)
[08:59] <un_operateur> Riyonuk, see the "remove xubuntu" section on this page -- http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[08:59] <mike> Has anyone ever done a chroot/unionfs combination by hand?
[08:59] <Toulouse> hey guys which irc client should i use? im using gaim, and it's quite annoying
[08:59] <mazyhaze> ubunutu installation hangs while booting, checksum is ok, no error
[08:59] <jbroome> !info f-prot-installer | kbrooks__ yandel
[08:59] <Toulouse> xchat tends to freeze
[08:59] <ubotu> f-prot-installer: F-Prot(tm) Antivirus installer package. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.5.21 (edgy), package size 24 kB, installed size 176 kB (Only available for i386)
[08:59] <un_operateur> Riyonuk, just make sure you have installed [ku] buntu-desktop before you do that tho
[08:59] <dtek> help... S3 ProSavage DDR graphic card. not working on dapper.. so cant use Gnome or other X
[09:00] <Aardwolf> What's the package for xmms called?
[09:00] <Riyonuk> ok, am I using edgy? Im using 6.10
[09:00] <Toulouse> Aardwolf: like xmms base or somethign
[09:00] <jbroome> y
[09:00] <stefg> !info xmms
[09:00] <ubotu> xmms: Versatile X audio player. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.10+cvs20060429-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1085 kB, installed size 7248 kB
[09:00] <un_operateur> Riyonuk, yep
[09:00] <yandel> anything else besides panda and fprot?
[09:00] <opteek> !w32codecs
[09:00] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:00] <chrissturm> does ubuntu support the root filesystem on lvm?
[09:00] <Toulouse> !irc
[09:00] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[09:00] <GhoSt_DoG> i nedd help
[09:00] <kbrooks__> yandel, please answer my question.
[09:00] <un_operateur> chrissturm, yes indeed
[09:01] <chrissturm> i have software raid1 now, but i think i will reformat and use lvm
[09:01] <kbrooks__> !anyone | GhoSt_DoG
[09:01] <ubotu> GhoSt_DoG: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:01] <yandel> kbrooks__: because we work with TONS of windows machines within the company
[09:01] <GhoSt_DoG> obductor@obductor:~$ wine FlashFXP
[09:01] <GhoSt_DoG> wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\FlashFXP.exe": Module not found
[09:01] <GhoSt_DoG> obductor@obductor:~$
[09:01] <iGama> boas
[09:01] <Riyonuk> What does this mean? E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:01] <GhoSt_DoG> i want open FlashFXP
[09:01] <yandel> and if the linux box does not see the vir thats a problem because they can send it to a win machine and infect it
[09:01] <un_operateur> chrissturm, lvm is a form of "software raid" tho ..
[09:01] <LameBMX> eh ive got them mounted os installed and trying to start .. i just get that divide by zero error
[09:01] <Aardwolf> Application 'xmms' not available
[09:01] <Aardwolf> The application can not be found in your archive. This usually means that it is not available for your hardware plattform.
[09:01] <stefg> chrissturm: yes, but you're better off with a separate /boot, (and a initramfs on it, which understands lvm)
[09:01] <un_operateur> Riyonuk, it means you need to run that command as sudo
[09:01] <chrissturm> un_operateur: i know, thats why i want to use it
[09:01] <Aardwolf> what does THAT mean? It sure is available for my hardware, being a normal computer
[09:01] <un_operateur> Riyonuk, or close down other package-managers
[09:01] <kbrooks__> Aardwolf, define normal.
[09:02] <chrissturm> is there a howto for installing into lvm via debootstrap?
[09:02] <Aardwolf> athlon 1300MHz, 512MB RAM, ...
[09:02] <stefg> !raid
[09:02] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[09:02] <mazyhaze> again: ubunutu installation hangs while booting, checksum is ok, no error
[09:02] <wims> anybody have an idea why my mouse pointer is scrambled on one of my monitors but ok on the other ?
[09:02] <dtek> S3 ProSavageDDR Not working with Dapper. HELP
[09:02] <nolimitsoya> Aardwolf, do you have the right repos?
[09:02] <kbrooks__> Aardwolf, also, there are 2 popular "hardware platforms", AFAIK. x86, x86-64
[09:02] <metroman> Could someone tell me how VMware player works/
[09:02] <un_operateur> chrissturm, nope -- debootstrap works within another installation and doesnt have much control about that kind of hardware
[09:02] <pike_> Toulouse: dont know if someone has answered this yet but commands like /server /join /msg  /server quakenetwhatever  should connect then /join channelname
[09:03] <stefg> wims: hardware/driver-problem.
[09:03] <Aardwolf> I'm not sure if I have the right repos, if possible I'd like "all" repos, or at least the repos that contain common programs like "xmms". How can I set such repos?
[09:03] <kbrooks__> metroman, well, you load a virtual machine into it, and it runs it.
[09:03] <Toulouse> pike: thanks
[09:03] <chrissturm> un_operateur: i dont have hardware access to the server, i need to install via debootstrap
[09:03] <GhoSt_DoG> i nedd help
[09:03] <kbrooks__> metroman, by way of some technology called virtualization.
[09:03] <GhoSt_DoG> obductor@obductor:~$ wine FlashFXP
[09:03] <GhoSt_DoG> wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\FlashFXP.exe": Module not found
[09:03] <GhoSt_DoG> obductor@obductor:~$
[09:03] <un_operateur> Aardwolf, maybe this helps -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Sources.list
[09:03] <kbrooks__> GhoSt_DoG, stop repeating. we will help you.
[09:03] <GhoSt_DoG> ok ok
[09:04] <chrissturm> is there a benchmark comparing lvm with normal software raid and no raid at all?
[09:04] <un_operateur> GhoSt_DoG, just make sure that file exists ..
[09:04] <kbrooks__> metroman, do you know what virtualization is?
[09:04] <Aardwolf> un_operateur, my version is 5.10, do there exist repos for that version?
[09:04] <un_operateur> chrissturm, think about it -- how does debootstrap work??
[09:04] <chrissturm> actually a raid1 should be twice as fast as a normal harddisk, but i dont think that thats true for software raid 1
[09:04] <kbrooks__> Aardwolf, of course.....
[09:04] <opteek> is it normal for an install of winxp to take 2.5 hours using qemu?
[09:04] <GhoSt_DoG> un_operateur: i think exist
[09:04] <un_operateur> Aardwolf, sure -- I think that is breezy badger no??
[09:04] <Aardwolf> yep, it's breezy
[09:04] <kbrooks__> opteek, yes.
[09:05] <kbrooks__> opteek, its entirely normal.
[09:05] <chrissturm> un_operateur: I can boot into a rescue system in a ramdisk, create the lvm from there, and debootstrap into ubuntu
[09:05] <stefg> chrissturm: don't get into that kind of paranoia... lvm produces a /bit/ of overhead, compared to plain raid0, but that's neglectable on halfway recent hardware
[09:05] <dtek> Any info on S3 ProSavageDDR not working with dapper...? Does anybody knows how to tweak xorg.conf to make it work?? please help
[09:05] <un_operateur> Aardwolf, you'll need to replace each instance of the word edgy there with breezy and it ought to work
[09:05] <opteek> kbrooks__, thanks
[09:05] <chrissturm> stefg: thats what i think too, i'd just see it verified by some benchmark
[09:05] <un_operateur> GhoSt_DoG, please verify not think :)
[09:05] <kbrooks__> opteek, you can use kqemu (a proprietary kernel module which makes things go faster in qemu)
[09:06] <kbrooks__> opteek: but i dont recommend it
[09:06] <stefg> chrissturm: to compare with what? *Your* use-case and *your* hardware is different anyway
[09:06] <opteek> kbrooks__,  why not?
[09:06] <LameBMX> went through it ... nothing applicable to mine .. i got the raid up ... its seen fine and all that .. just no booting it ... any hints for configuring mkinitramfs
[09:06] <opteek> kbrooks__, I tried using kqemu while installing but the installation pagefaulted
[09:06] <GhoSt_DoG> un_operateur: i'm beginner user in Ubuntu.. i don't know verify :-\
[09:06] <LameBMX> or how to swap kernals
[09:07] <kbrooks__> opteek, because it is proprietary!
[09:07] <ashzilla> How can i tell how much memory I have?
[09:07] <nivekz> hello there. my local repository disappears in synpatic, what can i do to get it back?
[09:07] <kbrooks__> opteek, do you know what proprietary means?
[09:07] <ashzilla> I couldn't tell any relevant details from Device Manager
[09:07] <chrissturm> stefg: thats only partly right. If I see a benchmark with 2 sata drives comparing the three options, i think i can get to some conclusions
[09:07] <opteek> kbrooks__,  i read something about an open source equivalent to kqemu
[09:07] <un_operateur> GhoSt_DoG, naviagate to it -- in nautilus -- /home/user/.wine/drive_c/windows/system32/
[09:07] <stefg> chrissturm: ok... the
[09:08] <stefg> 'scientific' approach
[09:08] <kbrooks__> opteek, well,  don't use it. it is too alpha.
[09:08] <saxofoner> hey everyone
[09:08] <stefg> google is your friend
[09:08] <ashzilla> How can I tell how much system memory I have?
[09:08] <opteek> kbrooks__, thats what I thought
[09:08] <saxofoner> Anybody here really know their Wacoms?
[09:08] <chrissturm> stefg: I was just asking. i only found quite old benchmarks with google
[09:08] <saxofoner> I need a wacom expert.
[09:08] <LameBMX> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FakeRaidEdgy?highlight=%28fakeraid%29 worked for dmraid in the live enviroment .. and for getting the rest to work i used: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[09:08] <un_operateur> chrissturm, personally i think an LVM in RAM is absurd -- why even run an LVM in RAM, it's defeating the point
[09:08] <GhoSt_DoG> un_operateur: no exist and now?
[09:08] <saxofoner> A real *expert* on tablets
[09:08] <LinuxHelp> ashzilla, free -m
[09:08] <chrissturm> un_operateur: the lvm doenst run in ram, the rescue system does
[09:09] <un_operateur> GhoSt_DoG, find the file, download it and place it in that directory
[09:09] <kbrooks__> opteek, do you understand what the problem is with kqemu?
[09:09] <opteek> kbrooks__, it's proprietary!!
[09:09] <un_operateur> chrissturm, by rescue system, i suppose you mean the debootstrap chroot, right?
[09:09] <pike_> ashzilla: also look under /proc directory like "cat /proc/meminfo"
[09:09] <chrissturm> stefg: would you recommend lvm for two 160 gig sata drives?
[09:09] <saxofoner> 'ey un_operateur, thanks for your help the other day.
[09:09] <kbrooks__> opteek: that isn't complete understanding. yes, it's proprietary...
[09:09] <un_operateur> saxofoner, errm, what was i helping with? i forget :)
[09:09] <cmt^^> Anyone has any experience using a Palm Tungsten T on Ubuntu? I've tried to install pilot-link but I get this error when running "make": http://pastebin.se/5299
[09:10] <ashzilla> LinuxHelp: Thanks
[09:10] <chrissturm> un_operateur: by rescue system i mean the system i boot into, from which i create the lvm and debootstrap into it
[09:10] <ashzilla> pike_: that's very useful as well, thanks
[09:10] <stefg> chrissturm: i get that mood twice a year (i want to have numbers and figures on performance)... but i find out on a regular basis that i did things right by intuition :-)...  lvm is the default choice on ubuntu for a reason
[09:10] <kbrooks__> opteek, but it means that if, say, you wanted kqemu to be fast, you couldn't do it, or hire someone else to do it for you.
[09:10] <chrissturm> stefg: is it, didnt know that
[09:10] <un_operateur> chrissturm, but wait, didnt you want to run the / filesystem on an LVM??
[09:11] <chrissturm> un_operateur: yep
[09:11] <saxofoner> un_operateur:   I was the guy whose whole distro got completely ruined because it tried to upgrade itself while upgrading...  It all worked out.
[09:11] <stefg> chrissturm: lvm2, of course... not the old one
[09:11] <kbrooks__> opteek, or, if you wanted to promote kqemu by bundling it, you couldn't do it without asking.
[09:11] <leonel>  if there will  be an firefox2 update for  edgy
[09:11] <un_operateur> chrissturm, well, the / system has to be LVMed before the system can boot .. incase you forget :)
[09:12] <un_operateur> saxofoner, ohh yea, didnt you reinstall ubuntu too? :)
[09:12] <cge> leonel: Updates for released version are generally only security updates. If the update in question is not a security update, then you should look into Ubuntu Backports.
[09:12] <dtek> tek
[09:12] <saxofoner> un_operateur:  yep.
[09:12] <saxofoner> Haha
[09:12] <saxofoner> Now I'm just trying to get a tablet working.
[09:12] <dtek>  Any info on S3 ProSavageDDR not working with dapper...? Does anybody knows how to tweak xorg.conf
[09:13] <saxofoner> I have dual monitors, and I want it on only one of them.  there doesn't seem to be any tablet mapping software available
[09:13] <leonel> cge:  it is a  security update  that's my concern
[09:13] <un_operateur> saxofoner, ahh, remember if you are successful, you should contribute the the wiki so it helps other people :) ;)
[09:13] <cge> leonel: Then it will be in edgy, yes.
[09:13] <leonel> cge:  it's a week now , I'll wait  thanks
[09:13] <saxofoner> un_operateur:  sure thing!
[09:14] <cge> leonel: Hmm... which update is it?
[09:14] <un_operateur> anyway, bbl .. dinner time :)
[09:14] <saxofoner> Keyword:  "if" I am successful
[09:14] <kyncani> dtek: i don't know about this particular card, but maybe mode up to date software would handle it well, you may try edgy ?
[09:14] <bean-oh> what is the name of the next ubuntu version in the works? i saw an article about it, and now i can't find it again.
[09:14] <kyncani> !feisty | bean-oh
[09:14] <ubotu> bean-oh: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[09:14] <cge> bean-oh: Feisty. I'm using it right now.
[09:14] <stefg> !release
[09:14] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[09:14] <bean-oh> thanks al
[09:15] <bean-oh> all
[09:15] <leonel> cge: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/known-vulnerabilities.html#firefox2.0.0.1
[09:15] <bean-oh> cge: how's it run?
[09:15] <saxofoner> !all your base belonging to me
[09:15] <opteek> kbrooks__, are there comparative open source alternatives to qemu?
[09:15] <Aardwolf> allright I now have a huuuuge amount of repos in sources.list and it seems I'm able to install things now :)
[09:15] <cge> bean-oh: Rather well, though there isn't much that is different right now.
[09:15] <opteek> kbrooks__,  for running xp
[09:15] <kbrooks__> opteek, not really.
[09:15] <stefg> !info bochs
[09:15] <ubotu> bochs: IA-32 PC emulator. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.2.6-2 (edgy), package size 635 kB, installed size 2060 kB
[09:16] <cge> Aardwolf: No!!!
[09:16] <Aardwolf> ?
[09:16] <chrissturm> stefg: i have a howto here that creates a raid1 first with mdadm, and then creates a lvm on top of it. does that make sense or can i just create the lvm on the raw devices and let lvm handle the raid
[09:16] <chrissturm> ?
[09:16] <cge> Aardwolf: You aren't using Trevino's list, are you?
[09:16] <opteek> kbrooks__,  ok, can I expect a significant performance increase if I add, say a gig of ram ( i am using 128 for the VM currently)
[09:16] <Aardwolf> let me see if it's in there
[09:16] <OmniD> windows isn't ready for the desktop
[09:16] <OmniD> I can't get my sound to work at all
[09:17] <kbrooks__> OmniD, linux isn't either.
[09:17] <cge> opteek: qemu isn't open source any more?
[09:17] <OmniD> I doubt that
[09:17] <cge> Aardwolf: I mean, where did you get this giant sources.list?
[09:17] <OmniD> Sound worked right away in Linux kbrooks__
[09:17] <kbrooks__> cge: it is open source.
[09:17] <stefg> chrissturm:  i don't /know/ , but would /intuitively/ try the raw device approach first ... KISS, ya'know
[09:17] <opteek> cge, it is
[09:17] <dtek> kyncani: already tried Edgy same result
[09:17] <cge> opteek: Oh, I see, you just wanted another open source version.
[09:17] <opteek> cge, right
[09:17] <kbrooks__> OmniD, other issues make linux not ready for the desktop.
[09:18] <Aardwolf> cge, Trevino isn't in there. It's not that huge maybe :) It's all the ones from the ubuntu wiki, and all the ones that were in there after installation uncommented
[09:18] <OmniD> I dunnoooo
[09:18] <Paulius_> Is there a tutorial on installing a Firewire external HDD?
[09:18] <cge> Aardwolf: Oh.
[09:18] <OmniD> Works fine for me, it just lacks some software I need :3
[09:18] <kbrooks__> OmniD, both windows and linux have package manager fragmentation. windows has NO PACKAGE MANAGER AT ALL
[09:18] <Paulius_> I just got myself an external drive and I want to install it on my Ubuntu box.
[09:18] <stefg> Paulius_: isn't it autodetected on plugin?
[09:18] <kbrooks__> OmniD, etc.
[09:18] <saxofoner> Anybody use xfree?
[09:18] <cge> Aardwolf: That is safe. There are some shockingly long lists floating around on the internet that aren't.
[09:18] <Paulius_> stefg: Well, I'm using the Ubuntu Server which is non-graphical.
[09:18] <Aardwolf> ok :)
[09:18] <Aardwolf> thanks for the warning
[09:19] <eitan> hey guys, i just installed ubu on a new sony vaio laptop...everything works great except for the SD card slot.  This slot works in winxp but when I put in a sd card while running ubu nothing happens.  How can i troubleshoot this?  I searched on the problem already.  Thanks!
[09:19] <saxofoner> Xfree for a tablet?  AnybodY/
[09:19] <saxofoner> ?
[09:19] <toulouse> hey guys, how do i view the partitions that i have on this hard drive
[09:19] <cge> leonel: You must remember that security updates are often backported, so the version number might not be the same.
[09:19] <toulouse> that im running ubuntu off f
[09:19] <Paulius_> toulouse: fdisk -l
[09:19] <wims> i need python 2.3, can i just download the source and compile it and it wont interfere with python 2.4 thats allready installed?
[09:19] <saxofoner> toulouse:  try running gparted
[09:19] <deepsa> toulouse: fdisk -l
[09:19] <toulouse> fdisk -l returns nothign
[09:20] <fenri1> is there a graphical app for configuring grub?
[09:20] <deepsa> eitan: lsusb
[09:20] <Paulius_> sudo fdisk -l
[09:20] <deepsa> toulouse: sudo fdisk -l
[09:20] <leonel> cge:   I know  backporting means and  how things got patched  but I don't see those  bugs fixed in ubuntu
[09:20] <fenri1> !app
[09:20] <toulouse> ok :)
[09:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about app - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:20] <fenri1> ?
[09:20] <deepsa> fenri1: lol
[09:20] <deepsa> ubotu: lol
[09:20] <cge> leonel: Hmm... I might be able to get an answer on -devel
[09:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:20] <fenri1> is there one?
[09:20] <leonel> cge: jeje
[09:20] <toulouse> do yall know how to tell which partition im running off of?
[09:20] <Aardwolf> yay, cool, KDE applications working in gnome, maybe I won't even need the whole KDE
[09:20] <toulouse> cause i dont know
[09:20] <stefg> Paulius_: i'm not sure about the handling of media in the server install... I#d have a look in /media after plugging in the disk and see if it's there
[09:21] <Jussi01> hei all, I just installed vsftp from the repos - but I cant find it on the menus. can some one tell me how to use it ? does it have a gui? if not which ftp server should I use?
[09:21] <toulouse> Jussi01: try typing the program name into terminal'
[09:21] <legomania> has anybody got the sun calendar plugin for evolution working ?
[09:21] <eitan> deepsa i pmed you about my SD slot problem
[09:21] <toulouse> hey guys, how do i tell which partition on running off of??
[09:21] <Paulius_> stefg: Only got cdrom in /media
[09:21] <deepsa> eitan: i did not get it
[09:22] <eitan> ok
[09:22] <kbrooks__> toulouse, df
[09:22] <deepsa> Jussi01: start vsftpd daemon
[09:22] <toulouse> thanks
[09:22] <kbrooks__> toulouse, no, i mean df -h
[09:22] <fenri1> ?
[09:22] <stefg> !info pmount
[09:22] <eitan> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[09:22] <eitan> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[09:22] <eitan> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[09:22] <eitan> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[09:22] <ubotu> pmount: mount removable devices as normal user. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.13-1build1 (edgy), package size 39 kB, installed size 588 kB
[09:22] <toulouse> okie
[09:22] <eitan> thats what i get when i run lsusb
[09:22] <deepsa> eitan: lol
[09:22] <saxofoner> http://www.linux.com/howtos/Wacom-Tablet-HOWTO-3.shtml#_xfree   Could someone help me get xfree installed?
[09:22] <chrissturm> ha, the lvm article on ibm developerworks is written by daniel robbins :)
[09:22] <saxofoner> eitan:
[09:22] <saxofoner> !paste
[09:22] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:22] <Scuzz> hello, can anyone show me how to change the settings in my mozilla browser to play realplayer streams instead of movie player?
[09:22] <fenri1> is there a way to configure grub in a application with a gui
[09:22] <deepsa> eitan: its not listed here do lspci -vv
[09:22] <toulouse> scuzz: i want to do that too
[09:23] <Scuzz> yeh driving me crazy lol
[09:23] <eitan> deepsa what am i looking for when i run that command?
[09:23] <toulouse> my movie player doesnt play movies anyway:( i dont know how to get it too
[09:23] <Scuzz> should be a script somewhere
[09:23] <daedra> who here uses automatix?
[09:23] <eitan> it outputted a lot
[09:23] <wims> !gcc
[09:23] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:23] <toulouse> !automatix
[09:23] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[09:23] <Jussi01> deepsa: it cant find them... I a noob... please give it to me slow...
[09:23] <deepsa> eitan: pastebin whole output
[09:23] <legomania> looking for someone who has installed the sun java calendar program (JESCS) for evolution and gotten it working
[09:23] <eitan> will i overflow?
[09:23] <Scuzz> I use aitomatix but the site is down again
[09:24] <Some_Person> i need help please setting up my dsl on ubuntu
[09:24] <deepsa> Jussi01: slow dooze
[09:24] <deepsa> Some_Person: ya i am here to help
[09:24] <toulouse> Some_Person: you mean embedded linux?
[09:24] <kbrooks__> !WorksForMe
[09:24] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[09:24] <deepsa> eitan: www.rafb.net/paste use this to paste
[09:24] <daedra> I use it and haven't had any problems with it yet - it's so easy to set up java and browser plugins
[09:24] <stefg> Some_Person: how far did you get?
[09:24] <eitan> ok hold on a sec
[09:24] <Some_Person> ok, i set my dsl modem (router?) to give me a private ip address
[09:24] <deepsa> now? Some_Person
[09:25] <Some_Person> but i input the data window's ipconfig gave me
[09:25] <toulouse> Some_Person: soz, i was thinking (DSL) like damn small linux, brainfart
[09:25] <Some_Person> and i still cant access the internet
[09:25] <xphree_> anyone has a solution in the mysql-server bug in edgy ?
[09:25] <Aardwolf> How could it come, that the apt-get command can find package "kate", but if I use the graphical "Add Applications" and I search for kate in there, it doesn't find it?
[09:25] <stefg> toulouse: this is #ubuntu, not #dsl :-)
[09:25] <deepsa> toulouse: lol
[09:25] <toulouse> Aardwolf: add app's doesnt have everything, synaptic has more
[09:25] <daedra> hey deepsa you were in the backtrack channel ;)
[09:25] <Some_Person> dsl as in internet access
[09:25] <toulouse> lol soz guys
[09:25] <deepsa> daedra: ya i am everywhere i am god. lol
[09:26] <bill__> quelqu'un pour papoter avec moi? je dcouvre ubuntu
[09:26] <Scuzz> Some_Person have you tried to go into system>administration and networking?
[09:26] <deepsa> toulouse: what is soz?
[09:26] <Some_Person> yes
[09:26] <stefg> !fr | bill__
[09:26] <Aardwolf> !soz
[09:26] <ubotu> bill__: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:26] <Some_Person> and i put in the stuff from ipconfig /all
[09:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about soz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:26] <toulouse> so what other linux distro should i try ??? soz=my way of saying sorry
[09:26] <Scuzz> ok sometimes my netowrk doesnt work as well and I have to go in and activate it again
[09:26] <Aardwolf> Fedora core 6
[09:26] <Aardwolf> or Archlinux
[09:26] <deepsa> toulouse: try ubuntu
[09:26] <saxofoner> http://www.linux.com/howtos/Wacom-Tablet-HOWTO-5.shtml#_Toc465765719  Is the code for the settings on the tablet in xorg.conf?  This says they are in xf86, but I don't have one!
[09:26] <toulouse> im using ubuntu you goofballs
[09:27] <toulouse> what OTher distro should i try?
[09:27] <deepsa> toulouse: try gentoo
[09:27] <toulouse> ARch?
[09:27] <Scuzz> or mepis
[09:27] <toulouse> i was thinkin gentoo
[09:27] <Scuzz> pclinux
[09:27] <daedra> I'm scared of gentoo :(
[09:27] <eitan> deepsa http://rafb.net/p/afVQCQ50.html try that
[09:27] <toulouse> looks pretty cool, pc linux?
[09:27] <stefg> toulouse: kubuntu? xubuntu? fluxbuntu?
[09:27] <Scuzz> yes pclinuxos
[09:27] <Scuzz> they use rpms
[09:27] <Aardwolf> try windows
[09:27] <Jussi01> deepsa IM getting this - any idea how to fix it? jussi@jussi-laptop:~$ sudo vsftpd
[09:27] <Jussi01> 500 OOPS: could not bind listening IPv4 socket
[09:28] <Some_Person> so, what should i do?
[09:28] <toulouse> well, i have partitions on this comp. that my uncle gave me and he said i should try some other flavors of linux, so i wanna do it
[09:28] <saxofoner> !ubuntu
[09:28] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[09:28] <toulouse> ive got ubuntu with both gnome and kde
[09:28] <wims> !debian
[09:28] <ubotu> Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship
[09:28] <pike_> toulouse: freebsd with linux binary support
[09:28] <toulouse> and beryl
[09:28] <toulouse> freebsd huh? is it easy? (ima noob)
[09:29] <deepsa> eitan: CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments Unknown device 8039 this is the device
[09:29] <eitan> ok
[09:29] <stefg> Some_Person: the problem is that you don't have IRC and your ubuntu install at the same time... so you cant answer questions or  apply commands immediatly..
[09:29] <pike_> toulouse: well there is a pcbsd its easy but id say a bit harder than ubuntu
[09:29] <Some_Person> yes
[09:29] <Scuzz> someperson go into your netowrk settings and recheck your network device, then go into properties and activate eth0 or eth1
[09:29] <Some_Person> eth0
[09:29] <eitan> so what can i do about that device?
[09:29] <Scuzz> yep
[09:29] <deepsa> eitan: you having a sony vaio laptop
[09:30] <toulouse> ok, maybe pcliinux or gentoo, can i burn these to a cd-RW?
[09:30] <eitan> im pretty new at this
[09:30] <eitan> yes
[09:30] <toulouse> i can?
[09:30] <Scuzz> yes they have iso's
[09:30] <toulouse> yay
[09:30] <pentiumx> puhuuko poijat olenkaan suomea
[09:30] <toulouse> so if im bored with some other (inferior) ditro, i can just rewrite over it
[09:30] <daedra> toulouse: I like slackware because of the flexibility of the installer
[09:30] <eitan> is there a way to have ubuntu recognize the sd card slot?
[09:30] <LinTux> Anybody know of any aMATEUR rADIO SOFTWARE FOR SHOWING A LIVE dx cLUSTER
[09:30] <toulouse> aaah caps
[09:30] <deepsa> eitan: what model is it exactly o
[09:30] <Aardwolf> I installed kate but it's an old version, for an old version of KDE, how to get the newest version?
[09:31] <pike_> toulouse: second slackware if you dont want a debian distro
[09:31] <toulouse> ok
[09:31] <Sir_Fawnpug> What is the name of the executable responsible for printer setup?
[09:31] <toulouse> i'll try it, but ubuntu is the best
[09:31] <ubuntunewbie> hi. can anyone help me with my sound thingy thing? i'm running on ubuntu 6.1 and i aint got sound
[09:31] <Some_Person> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39059/ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39060/
[09:31] <toulouse> (0f course
[09:31] <stefg> !gnome-cups-manager
[09:31] <ubotu> gnome-cups-manager: CUPS printer admin tool for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 0.31-1.1ubuntu14 (edgy), package size 244 kB, installed size 1528 kB
[09:31] <eitan> deepsa it's a vgn-n130g
[09:31] <toulouse> hey, uh will grub pick this up automatically?? because i have grub already
[09:31] <daedra> im on kubuntu right now, and its the best of all the ones i've tried
[09:31] <Sir_Fawnpug> stefg, thank you.
[09:31] <wyld> elp me! some of my keys won't work. bcdefgijklnmopqrstuvwxy
[09:31] <toulouse> im a gnome fan
[09:31] <deepsa> eitan: wait for 5 minutes i will tell
[09:32] <daedra> lol wyld
[09:32] <wyld> i'm stuck
[09:32] <eitan> ok thanks much!
[09:32] <wyld> not funny
[09:32] <daedra> it's probably a keyboard problem
[09:32] <Scuzz> yes it should toul
[09:32] <toulouse> coo
[09:32] <BigToe> my DVD rewriter is broken :(
[09:32] <Scuzz> it will pick up any other os on your system
[09:32] <wyld> ow do i fix it
[09:32] <toulouse> it will be on a different partition
[09:32] <toulouse> thanks so much
[09:32] <Scuzz> np
[09:32] <toulouse> you guys are very generous
[09:33] <BigToe> my BIOS keeps saying i
[09:33] <BigToe> t can't find the device sometimes
[09:33] <Some_Person> please get my dsl to work in ubuntu
[09:33] <BigToe> and I booted ubuntu
[09:33] <Some_Person> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39059/ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39060/
[09:33] <BigToe> and I put a blank DVD in there
[09:33] <Scuzz> Some have you tried what I suggested?
[09:33] <pike_> toulouse: its likely youll have to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst  id do that rather than letting the other distros install a boot manager to mbr
[09:33] <BigToe> and for a second or 2 it flashed up "Would you like to burn a disc"
[09:33] <borg> deepsa, did i mention that my device that i want to capture is using the cx88 chipset and is a hauppage tv card? but i cant get any programs to record from it except "tvtime" but tvtime doesnt record it just views
[09:33] <ubuntunewbie> anyone knows where i can go to fix my sound thing? i've went to thousands of sites already and still couldnt get it working
[09:33] <BigToe> and in Computer it said "blank disc"
[09:34] <wyld> daedra: cn you elp me?
[09:34] <BigToe> but then in a few seconds it went back to "CD-RW/DVD+-RW drive"
[09:34] <daedra> wyld: I should seriously consider trying out your distro with another keyboard
[09:34] <deepsa> borg: brb
[09:34] <pike_> toulouse: of course you can always recover mbr really easily with livecd
[09:34] <wyld> drn it
[09:34] <Sir_Fawnpug> The garbage collector just game to deallocate my trash.
[09:34] <daedra> wyld: just to make sure its not your keyboard
[09:34] <Scuzz> ubuntu, did you lose your sound?
[09:35] <toulouse> kk, so really no risk
[09:35] <stefg> Some_Person: configure your eth0 to have a static IP 192.168.0.10, then open a terminal in ubuntu and see if you can ping the router/modem 'ping 192.168.0.1. if you get a connection you're halfway done
[09:35] <wyld> but it is te only usb kb I've got
[09:35] <BigToe> guys can you help me
[09:35] <ubuntunewbie> Scuzz, didn't have one when i installed ubuntu
[09:35] <daedra> wyld: then come back here if it isn't your keyboard
[09:35] <toulouse> cool, now i gotta figure out how to copy over this music on my cd-RW
[09:35] <daviey> why when i try to install a package i get  files list file for package `language-pack-gnome-en-base' contains empty filename
[09:35] <ubuntunewbie> Scuzz, its not detecting my sound card
[09:35] <Some_Person> why 192.168.0.10?
[09:35] <ubuntunewbie> Scuzz, but when i do a 'lspci' it shows the sound card
[09:35] <BigToe> How do I record a short video of the screen? Like Wink but for Linux?
[09:35] <wyld> daedra: but it's brnd new
[09:35] <wyld> i just got it
[09:35] <dany> hy
[09:35] <drach> !xvidcap
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xvidcap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:36] <dany> sex
[09:36] <Scuzz> ubuntu go into synaptic and check and see if you have your alsa drivers installed
[09:36] <BigToe> xes
[09:36] <daedra> wyld: ask to borrow someone elses, then at least you known where the problem lies
[09:36] <Yodude> hey is the ubuntu download server down or something?
[09:36] <wyld> dynex cn go to ucking ell
[09:36] <ubuntunewbie> Scuzz, i've installed alsa driver.. lib... oss.. utils already
[09:36] <Yodude> i can't connect to it
[09:36] <wyld> evil crp
[09:36] <Flannel> Yodude: try a different mirror
[09:36] <ubuntunewbie> Scuzz, how do i go into synaptic anyways?
[09:36] <Yodude> but i already downloaded 125Mb
[09:37] <Yodude> i spent a lot of time on those
[09:37] <deepsa> eitan: it says your card will work automatically just put in the memory card in the card reader and a icon will come into the desktop
[09:37] <Yodude> besides i alreadyu picked the nearest mirror ( Greece )
[09:37] <chrissturm> Yodude: you can just continue downloading from the other mirror
[09:37] <BigToe> How do I install a .deb again?
[09:37] <Yodude> really? how?
[09:37] <Yodude> btw i'm using DAP
[09:37] <Riyonuk> Has anyone installed Warsow?
[09:37] <jacked> BigToe: doubleclick
[09:37] <Genius314> wow there's a lot of people here
[09:38] <BigToe> oh
[09:38] <BigToe> good point
[09:38] <eitan> deepsa, I dunno then, since Ive tried both of my sd cards and neither work
[09:38] <Genius314> anyone know how to use creox?
[09:38] <eitan> they are 1 gb and 2 gb
[09:38] <gaten> With ubuntu server, is there a way to provide RDP and Xserver access without a video card on the server computer?
[09:38] <chrissturm> Yodude: chnange the servers in /etc/apt/sources.list, and then repeat the command (apt-get or whatever you were doing)
[09:38] <deepsa> one icon gets created on desktop eitan
[09:38] <chrissturm> Yodude: and do an apt-get update after changing the file
[09:38] <eitan> nothing is showing up on the desktop
[09:38] <Yodude> lol i don't understand
[09:38] <ubuntunewbie> i guess un_operateur  is away
[09:38] <Riyonuk> Because I wish to know how to install warsow..
[09:38] <Yodude> talk easyu man
[09:38] <eitan> like it does if i put a cd in
[09:39] <signalvsnoise> BigToe: dpkg -i "name.deb"  is the actual command, if you're curious
[09:39] <Yodude> i don't use commands much
[09:39] <BigToe> ok signalvsnoise thanks
[09:39] <stefg> Yodude: you do, but you don't know :-)
[09:39] <bean-oh> gaten- i haven't done it with ubuntu, but it works just fine "headless" with redhat and suse.
[09:39] <daedra> eitan: hey maybe its your cardreader that hasn't been recognised
[09:40] <Yodude> lol please tell me in easy talk how to resume with a different mirror
[09:40] <daedra> eitan: and not just the cards
[09:40] <Scuzz> anyone know where the script is to change movie player to realplayer to play my streams in mozilla?
[09:40] <gaten> bean-oh, ok thank you. do you know of any docs offhand that deal with the issue?
[09:40] <bean-oh> gaten, however, not rdp, just xserver
[09:40] <deepsa> eitan: some info http://mail.kdewebdev.org/pipermail/linuxr3000/2006-August/000285.html
[09:40] <eitan> if i use my usb card reader with the sd cards, then ubuntu recognizes everything, but if i stick the card into the slot in the computer, nothing happens
[09:40] <Genius314> anyone want to help me configure my desktop resolution?
[09:40] <jbroome> !resolution | Genius314
[09:40] <ubotu> Genius314: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:41] <stefg> !fixrex | genius
[09:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixrex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:41] <ubuntunewbie> anyone can help me with my sound problem?
[09:41] <deepsa> eitan: go through the above link i guess it will help you out
[09:41] <stefg> !fixres | Genius314
[09:41] <ubotu> Genius314: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:41] <neowolf> how can i remove the icon for the mounted windows partition from the desktop?
[09:41] <Nontitle> !fixres
[09:41] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:41] <gaten> bean-oh:  hmm. i'd prefer rdp, but I'll see what I can find. thank you
[09:41] <ubuntunewbie> alsaconf detects sound card... but alsamixer doesnt
[09:41] <Yodude> help please!
[09:41] <deepsa> what happened Yodude
[09:42] <Yodude> ok i started downloading ubuntu
[09:42] <cge> leonel: Actually, that is quite concerning. I'm not sure how it is considered acceptable to claim that Dapper and Edgy are being supported with security updates when they have been vulnerable for that long.
[09:42] <Yodude> in DAP
[09:42] <Yodude> and now i can't connect to the site!
[09:42] <deepsa> Yodude: its bad you using windows
[09:42] <Yodude> i mean is the server down?
[09:42] <Yodude> i know lol
[09:42] <chrissturm> cge: what vulnerability are you talking about?
[09:42] <Yodude> i'm using the Greece server
[09:42] <leonel> cge: yes it is
[09:43] <deepsa> Yodude: the greece server is down for maintainece use torrent link
[09:43] <delta> Hi. I'm using aMule on edgy and it systematically crashes when I close a tab.
[09:43] <Sir_Fawnpug> gaten, I don't know if you have to have a video card for rdp, but I know you can do X11 remotely
[09:43] <Yodude> oh ok
[09:43] <Sir_Fawnpug> Without a video card
[09:43] <Yodude> do you know when it will be up and running again?
[09:43] <cge> chrissturm: Firefox 2.0.0 has multiple Javascript and SVG exploits capable of running arbitrary code as the user.
[09:43] <chrissturm> cge: and those are not fixed?
[09:43] <deepsa> YOdude it will take some time guys there are doing some necessary maintainence job
[09:43] <BigToe> argh
[09:44] <Ashton_Ke> Weee! They weren't kidding, Beryl is so worth the trouble.
[09:44] <BigToe> the solution to this problem
[09:44] <signalvsnoise> Yodude, the torrent is pretty consistently a lot faster
[09:44] <BigToe> was to try and capture a video of it
[09:44] <BigToe> :S
[09:44] <pike_> gaten: delta you can just rm -fr ~/.amule but youll lose any downloads and stuff
[09:44] <Genius314> in my xorg.conf, I have "1280x1024" under the screen section, but it won't show up in System>Preferences>Screen Resolution
[09:44] <Riyonuk> beryl? I keep hearing about it...
[09:44] <pike_> gaten: sorry for that wrong nick
[09:44] <gaten> Sir_Fawnpug:  ok. I think both rdp and xserver use the connecting computers resources, but ill have to google
[09:44] <Yodude> wll my max downbload speed is usually 7Kb per second
[09:44] <Yodude> and i already download 125Mb
[09:44] <deepsa> Yodude lol its too low
[09:44] <gaten> pike_:  np, i was wondering wth you were talking about ;)
[09:44] <Yodude> and trust me i don't want to lose those!
[09:44] <cge> chrissturm: They are fixed in the newest Mozilla released version, and Red Hat released new packages a while ago, but there aren't any fixes for Ubuntu.
[09:44] <Sir_Fawnpug> Riyonuk, it's one of these newfangled 3d desktops
[09:45] <Sir_Fawnpug> I tried to find information on it and kept on typing in Barrel
[09:45] <deepsa> YOdude wait for 4-5 hrs
[09:45] <Yodude> i know i live in Lebanon we don't have that good internet here, waiting for DSL though
[09:45] <daedra> hey I'm nervous to install drivers for my ATi x600 - I don't know what to do and don't want to get stuck with a console :(
[09:45] <Riyonuk> I bet it takes up a lot of memory>
[09:45] <toulouse> hey guys if i have an intel pent. 4 w/hyper threading, is that of the x86 architecture??
[09:45] <deepsa> toulouse: ya
[09:45] <daedra> toulouse: yes
[09:45] <Nontitle> yes
[09:45] <stefg> Genius314: your monitor isn't reporting back via DPMS that he will support that reso.... sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:45] <toulouse> okie dokie
[09:45] <pike_> daedra: just remember sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   that will let you restore everything if there is a problem
[09:45] <blanky> hey guys currently my thing is kdm how can i reconfigure it so it's gdm? sudo something reconfigure kdm?
[09:45] <Sir_Fawnpug> Toulouse, yep, same with Athlon machines too.
[09:45] <blanky> anyone?
[09:45] <daedra> thanks pike_
[09:46] <deepsa> blanky: there is a configuration file for that thing in /etc/X11 i guess
[09:46] <toulouse> ok
[09:46] <Sir_Fawnpug> Well, really the athlon 64 is x86-64 but it can run in x86 mode
[09:46] <opteek> i've installed the w32codecs and can view wmv files in totem, but not in VLC, what needs to be done for VLC to access these codecs?
[09:46] <Yodude> so you think in 4-5 hours the server will work again?
[09:46] <blanky> deepsa: thanks but no, I mean, there's a comman
[09:46] <daedra> got any links as to where I should start installing ATi drivers?
[09:46] <blanky> deepsa: and it lets me simply choose and it fixes it
[09:46] <daedra> proprietry or not, i don't care
[09:46] <stefg> blanky: if you run kde, but gnome as display manager you'll not be able to shutdown or restart your box from KDE....
[09:46] <signalvsnoise> daedra, you should also make a back up of /etc/xorg.conf.  restoring that will almost always fix your problems
[09:46] <blanky> sudo deb-pkg reconfigure kdm or something
[09:46] <delta> pike_, do you mean removing this directory will be enough to fix this bug?
[09:46] <Yodude> why dfoes this happen to me...
[09:46] <deepsa> Yodude: hope so
[09:46] <blanky> stefg: no, I mean, grr
[09:46] <deepsa> Yodude because you are yo dude lol
[09:46] <blanky> is anyone else here, gnomefreak, yeah you
[09:47] <Yodude> lol
[09:47] <deepsa> blanky: ya i use gnome
[09:47] <Yodude> hehe
[09:47] <toulouse> wait im download gentoo linux right, but it says only 54 megabytes? this cant be right
[09:47] <Yodude> hey ur friend said i can resume the download via another mirror
[09:47] <wyld> my keys work in linux
[09:47] <BigToe> more like 54 gigabytes
[09:47] <blanky> deepsa: yeah but, man
[09:47] <deepsa> toulouse: /join #gentoo for more help
[09:47] <wyld> i mean windows
[09:47] <pike_> delta: well it would be like running for the first time again.  you config files are all in .amule.. might fix might not
[09:47] <blanky> Guys, what's the debian package reconfigure command?
[09:47] <cge> chrissturm: By comparison, Red Hat had packages out 8 days ago.
[09:47] <Yodude> can i? without losing my *precious* and *hefty* 125Mbs?
[09:47] <signalvsnoise> also, daedra, you should consider which driver you want first.  The proprietary one gives 30-50% better preformance in games but the 3d desktop thing works much better with the opensource drivers,afaik
[09:47] <blanky> man everyone used to tell me it
[09:47] <blanky> now no one knows it
[09:47] <daedra> toulouse: that's a minimal install of gentoo - it comes in stages
[09:47] <Wolfgang> Hello, I have a problem when trying to load the Ubuntu Live CD on one of my XP machines. When I reboot the system I get a message saying "Verifying DMI Data Pool.... Boot from CD:  ISOLINUX 3.11 Debian-2066-03-16 Copyright (c) 1994-2005 isolinux: Disk error 32, AX=4280,drive 9f Boot failed: press a key to retry.
[09:48] <toulouse> oh, i'll ask the gentoo ppl for more info
[09:48] <daedra> signalvsnoise: thanks
[09:48] <Wolfgang> Someone please IM if they got an answer
[09:48] <deepsa> Wolfgang: sorry to say but your cd is corrupt
[09:48] <stefg> toulouse: that's right :-) but wait until you emerge the first packages :-)... do you need you box*this year* to be usable , har,har?
[09:48] <Wolfgang> Really? It works on my other pc
[09:48] <wyld> wolfgan: you probobly have a coaster
[09:48] <cge> daedra: What card are you using, specifically.
[09:48] <extern> why when I set vlc media player to fullscreen, it only maximizes? other players fullscreen mode is working properly
[09:48] <delta> pike_, it's a known bug, isn't it? I'm a bit surprised it isn't fixed in edgy. It seems to be down to wxwidgets.
[09:48] <Yodude> can i?
[09:48] <cge> ?
[09:48] <daedra> this year lol
[09:48] <deepsa> Yodude: ask that dude about that
[09:48] <pike_> toulouse: imo gentoo and ubuntu channels are some of the friendliest on freenode
[09:49] <Yodude> k
[09:49] <wyld> wolfgang: at what speed did you burn your disk?
[09:49] <daedra> cge: I am using ATi x600 PCI-E
[09:49] <RSL> Isn't there some kind of benefit to putting my swap partition on a separate hard drive?
[09:49] <Wolfgang> I think the highest was like 6x maybe
[09:49] <daedra> cge: Radeon
[09:49] <signalvsnoise> daedra, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Installation_Guide
[09:49] <Wolfgang> possibly 8x
[09:49] <toulouse> cool
[09:49] <Genius314> I have my xorg.conf set so that my monitor will have a higher resolution, but I can't set my monitor any higher than 1024x768 for some reason.
[09:49] <Wolfgang> Which is odd
[09:49] <deepsa> RSL: no benefit
[09:49] <wyld> wolfgang: do it on the lowest setting
[09:49] <stefg> RSL.... yes. because there's not one det of heads moving, but two...
[09:49] <delta> Genius314, nvidia?
[09:49] <cge> daedra: Oh, so you certainly want the ATI drivers then unless you care about the licence issues.
[09:49] <Wolfgang> 6x is too much?
[09:49] <wyld> wolfgang: yes
[09:50] <wims> !lamp
[09:50] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[09:50] <Yodude> Yodude: chnange the servers in /etc/apt/sources.list, and then repeat the command (apt-get or whatever you were doing)
[09:50] <Yodude> that's what he told me
[09:50] <daedra> cge: Proprietry then?
[09:50] <deepsa> Wolfgang: i usually burn at 1x
[09:50] <wyld> wolfgang: i'd say about 2x is good
[09:50] <Wolfgang> 4x better?, 2X?
[09:50] <Yodude> and do an apt-get update after changing the file
[09:50] <Wolfgang> ok then.
[09:50] <deepsa> Yodude try torrent its the best hope you get the download in 12 days or so
[09:50] <Genius314> The card is ATI, and the monitor is Mag Innovision
[09:50] <cge> daedra: Yes
[09:50] <Wolfgang> I'll come back here if any problems arise again thanks!
[09:50] <wyld> wolfgang: the more important the data, the slower you should burn it
[09:50] <Yodude> lol with DAP i was hoping 3days
[09:50] <RSL> stefg, Should I try to put it at the beginning or end of the drive? [I'm putting a partition for the Windows page file on the beginning, so I'd put it on the end I guess if that matters] .
[09:50] <opteek> i've installed the w32codecs and can view wmv files in totem, but not in VLC, what needs to be done for VLC to access these codecs?
[09:50] <Riyonuk> Anyone know of some fun multiplayer games?
[09:50] <Riyonuk> Im currently trying Wormux, kinda weird
[09:50] <delta> Genius314, sorry, can't help then :-(
[09:50] <Yodude> i can manage to get like 100-150Mbs a day
[09:51] <Yodude> just not with servers down lol
[09:51] <Genius314> Delta: Ok
[09:51] <deepsa> Yodude: its okay go sleep now
[09:51] <toulouse> how would i burn an iso to a cd? (using ubuntu?)
[09:51] <wyld> drag and drop
[09:51] <wy> why isn't there a plugin for the acrobat reader in the ubuntu package for acroread?
[09:51] <toulouse> really?
[09:51] <deepsa> toulouse: k3b
[09:51] <trev_> can anyone tell me what command to put into alacarte to run a shell script file?
[09:51] <cge> wy: I wasn't aware that anyone actually wanted to use that plugin.
[09:52] <wy> cge: I'm used to use it in firefox
[09:52] <pike_> Riyonuk: http://tremulous.info very cool fps
[09:52] <toulouse> if i do that on a cd-RW with music that is already on it, do you think it will work
[09:52] <tito_linux> I am about to switch to Ubuntu from Suse. I was wondering if in Ubuntu you get the situation where if you install the 64 bit edition you get difficult multimedia support?
[09:52] <stefg> RSL: 'beginning' and 'end' are not so fixed terms on modern harddrives... generally newer harddrives are more dependant on seek time than on transfer rate, so putting swap in the middle of a drive would be best, if it's practical by any means... but, to be honest: it doesn't matter no more :-)
[09:53] <RSL> stefg, thanks!
[09:53] <signalvsnoise> cge- I haven't updated my drivers in a week or two, but I have to say that using the proprietary drivers on my radeon xpress has made me very jealous of people who can use the open source ones in terms of beryl/compiz stability versus aiglx stability
[09:53] <accept> I need some hep with a infrared port on my HP Laptop. I need to use it with my cell phone, to transfer data. How can I do this?
[09:53] <Genius314> Ok, how do I get two monitors to work with two separate ATI cards?
[09:53] <wims> tito_linux,  yes, i had a few problems last time i tried. But thats 6 months ago
[09:53] <pike_> tito_linux: alot of people were having to chroot to a 32 bit / id say it has improved but probably not greatly
[09:53] <accept> !infrared
[09:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about infrared - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:53] <accept> !ir
[09:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ir - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:53] <legomania> looking for someone who has installed the sun java calendar program (JESCS) for evolution and gotten it working
[09:53] <deepsa> !irc
[09:53] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[09:54] <toulouse> there is a linux ir project
[09:54] <RSL> One more question... I'm a little fuzzy on the whole logical/primary partition thing. Is there a good list of what kinds of partitions [ie, system, etc]  should be which type?
[09:54] <tito_linux> So you reccomend 32 bit?
[09:54] <accept> ok, the bot doesn't know
[09:54] <wims> yes
[09:54] <deepsa> RSL: google.com
[09:54] <cge> signalvsnoise: The open source ones only worked well on older cards the last time I checked. Luckily, I have an older card.
[09:54] <toulouse> !lir
[09:54] <tito_linux> Cheers
[09:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lir - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:54] <Genius314> !ubotu
[09:54] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:54] <toulouse> all knowing?!?>
[09:54] <Genius314> lol
[09:54] <derFlo> has anyone ever player Flight of the Amazon Queen?
[09:54] <toulouse> doesnt know about linux ir project
[09:54] <Riyonuk> pike_, can you help me install Tremulous?
[09:54] <RSL> deepsa, I asked if there's a +good+ list like a recommendation. Feel free to ignore if you don't have one but if you do I'd love to know.
[09:54] <daedra> hehe
[09:55] <RSL> Not all googled information is of equal quality.
[09:55] <Genius314> !meaning_of_life
[09:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about meaning_of_life - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:55] <pike_> Riyonuk: i have to hide from boss as i type so replys might take a little time but sure :)
[09:55] <daedra> 42
[09:55] <deepsa> RSL: can't tell here its busy out here come to #deepsa
[09:55] <gnomefreak> Genius314: stop playing with the bot
[09:55] <toulouse> lol hide from boss
[09:55] <tito_linux> In Dapper I could only boot in "safe graphics mode". NV dummy drivers have never worked on my card. In Edgy I can't boot with any of the listed methods, is there a way I can override it to use VESA?
[09:55] <deepsa> toulouse: what is full form of BOSS
[09:55] <toulouse> wha?
[09:56] <toulouse> never heard of that
[09:56] <Riyonuk> ok
[09:56] <Riyonuk> pike_, so what do I download :p
[09:56] <deepsa> toulouse: see pm
[09:56] <accept> Can someone help?
[09:56] <deepsa> accept: why not i am here to help
[09:56] <jacked> where might I find information on using midi controllers with ubuntu?
[09:56] <deepsa> daedra: ?? what happened you came and go
[09:57] <pike_> Riyonuk: goto http://tremulous.info  then download--officialfiles--whatever mirror  its a foo.run file
[09:57] <daedra> deepsa: haha I just clicked on the channel accidentally
[09:57] <toulouse> hey how do i use bittorent in ubuntu
[09:57] <deepsa> daedra: lol
[09:57] <deepsa> toulouse: did you saw pm
[09:57] <toulouse> when i download a "torrent"(i guess that's what it is) it just downloads a tiny file
[09:57] <Genius314> I have my X server configured for a 1280x1024 resolution, but I don't know how to actually make my resolution that size.
[09:57] <daedra> toulouse: theres something inlcuded in ubuntu called gtorrent
[09:57] <opteek> toulouse, azureus
[09:57] <toulouse> deepsa: yes
[09:57] <stefg> jacked: what interface?... there's quite some stuff supported by the kernel
[09:58] <deepsa> toulouse: lol
[09:58] <pike_> toulouse: recommend ktorrent even in gnome..
[09:58] <toulouse> ok, azureus, will that allow me to get linux iso's faster?
[09:58] <deepsa> toulouse: ya
[09:58] <toulouse> or download them
[09:58] <opteek> toulouse, the speed depends on the torrent itself, how many seeders/leechers it has
[09:58] <lynucs> hey anyone knows how to convert a MOV-file into avi or mpeg??
[09:58] <lynucs> trying it the whole day today
[09:58] <toulouse> hmm. ok
[09:58] <deepsa> lynucs: possible
[09:59] <lynucs> with which prog??
[09:59] <arrenlex> lynucs: Use mencoder.
[09:59] <stefg> lynucs: look at vlc
[09:59] <tito_linux> Is it possible to install in text-only mode?
[09:59] <toulouse> lynucs: ive tried for days too, i never got nothing but if you do, good job
[09:59] <Some_Person> my dsl still wont work
[09:59] <stefg> !alternate
[09:59] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[09:59] <signalvsnoise> does anyone know a good tool for making your own system recovery cd?
[09:59] <lynucs> vlc can play that files, but can it encode??
[09:59] <deepsa> lynucs: ya if its installed
[09:59] <jacked> stefg: this is a starting point for me. I am hoping to use a full keyboard as the controller and to my macbook (running ubuntu of course) through an external sound card.
[09:59] <tito_linux> Can I still use GNOME with that CD afterwards? Is the installer Ncurses or something?
[09:59] <toulouse> okie dokie, im downloading azurues
[10:00] <lynucs> deepsa: vls is installed
[10:00] <arrenlex> lynucs: Use mencoder. "mencoder -ovc lavc -oac lavc <file.mov> -o <file.avi>"
[10:00] <deepsa> signalvsnoise: there's a complete linux devoted to system recovery and its bootable with all tools
[10:00] <stefg> jacked: ppc-machine?...Uh,oh, that can be challenging
[10:00] <jacked> no... macbook is intel  (mactel)
[10:00] <toulouse> for ppc's you should use mac, or if you like linux better then use yellowdog linux
[10:00] <lynucs> arrenlex: okie i'll try this :)
[10:01] <Some_Person> how can i get my stupid dsl to work in ubuntu?
[10:01] <toulouse> s
[10:01] <toulouse> Some_Person: i would hook it up if i was you
[10:01] <lynucs> Some_Person: does your dsl fuction on windows?
[10:01] <Some_Person> obviously
[10:01] <daedra> Some_Person: sudo dhclient
[10:01] <Some_Person> i'm using it now
[10:01] <xphree_> hi
[10:01] <Some_Person> tried that
[10:01] <toulouse> oh
[10:01] <xphree_> i need help with the mysql-server-5.0 bug with gcc
[10:01] <deepsa> xphree_: hi
[10:01] <xphree_> anyone has a solution ?
[10:01] <semicide> hi folks
[10:01] <xphree_> hi deepsa
[10:02] <tonquin> hi all.  I've just noticed that in edgy I can change the root password without giving a root password first.  Is this a feature or a bug?
[10:02] <deepsa> xphree_: /join #mysql
[10:02] <toulouse> hey someperson, just settle for Damn small embedded
[10:02] <lynucs> do you know wether your network card is recognized
[10:02] <xphree_> but... is a bug only with ubuntu edgy package
[10:02] <xphree_> not mysql
[10:02] <deepsa> tonquin: its feature
[10:02] <Some_Person> what?
[10:02] <stefg> !root | tonquin
[10:02] <wims> where do i get mysql_config ?
[10:02] <sbcl3> is there a utility that can convert pdf into text?
[10:02] <ubotu> tonquin: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:02] <deepsa> xphree_: then join #deepsa
[10:02] <jacked> toulouse stefg: macbook is intel (mactel)
[10:02] <Genius314> I still need help changing my resolution
[10:02] <toulouse> !Damn_Small_Linux
[10:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Damn_Small_Linux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:02] <deepsa> sbcl3: pdf2txt
[10:02] <daedra> Some_Person: lol 'DSL' can stand for Damn Small Linux
[10:02] <Some_Person> dsl is my internet connection
[10:02] <toulouse> oh yeah jacked, the new ones are i forgot
[10:02] <CHSober> hey, is there any way to install from the ubuntu cd without having to boot into live mode first? thanks
[10:03] <lynucs> Some_Person: did you try sudo dhclient?
[10:03] <flyinghippo> Not that I know of.
[10:03] <Some_Person> yes
[10:03] <stefg> jacked: got that... but it's still apple hardware (this means closed source drivers)
[10:03] <deepsa> CHSober: ya there is use knoppix
[10:03] <Asc> If I overwrite my swap partition without deactivating it first, will anything break?
[10:03] <lynucs> do you get an ip?
[10:03] <ollekalle> Hi, "program &> logfile.txt &"  <-- would that be the proper way to start a program am capturing all logs (stderr and stdout) in bash? If not, what should I change?
[10:03] <tonquin> deepsa:  hmm ok .. it seems a little insecure...but then i'm an insecure kind of guy :P
[10:03] <Some_Person> no
[10:03] <daedra> Some_Person: can you see your card in lspci ?
[10:03] <Some_Person> yes
[10:03] <flyinghippo> CHSOber: You could do a server install, but the server edititon is very minimal.
[10:03] <lynucs> what does dhclient say
[10:03] <jacked> stefg: that's what I was afraid of.  (macbook = stupid purchase)
[10:03] <semicide> i've a question about the mouse/touchpad on a laptop...anyone have time to help?
[10:03] <lynucs> dhcpnak?
[10:03] <arrenlex> !anyone | semicide
[10:03] <ubotu> semicide: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:03] <Riyonuk> pike_, wow...the site is taking forever
[10:04] <snowflake> Hello
[10:04] <Riyonuk> Is there anyway to speek up my network, because its taking a really loooong time to load google >_>
[10:04] <snowflake> Oh, sorry about that
[10:04] <Riyonuk> pike_, still loading google...>_<
[10:04] <Some_Person> dhclient doesnt work
[10:04] <daedra> Some_Person: hmm I'll have to hand  this problem over to someone else
[10:04] <Genius314> Does anybody have a Graphire 3 tablet with Ubuntu?
[10:04] <daedra> I'm, stumped
[10:04] <opteek> Riyonuk, where are you located
[10:04] <habesha> I am on an XP machine now and want to use Rsa encrypted authentication for SSH through PuTTY, I have imported my  id_rsa.pub key from my ubuntu machine using scp but Putty complains when I try to use this file as a public key
[10:04] <pike_> Riyonuk: one sec
[10:04] <CHSober> hmm, ok, I already tried the server edition, but as you said, it was very minimal. thanks for the help!
[10:04] <lynucs> Some_Person: does dhclient says soemthing with dhcpnak?
[10:04] <Some_Person> no
[10:04] <snowflake> This is all about questions, right? O__O
[10:04] <sbcl3> deepsa: where can i get that (pdf2txt)?
[10:04] <saxofoner> guys, I just did something really stupid w/ my xorg.conf, and fixed it
[10:04] <stefg> jacked: but google should turn up information wether it's possible to get midi working on it... i mean MIDI is a simple 8-bit protocol from the early 80's... shouldn't be too hard
[10:04] <blanky> I asked already but I was gone, sorry. What's the command to reconfigure a debian package?
[10:04] <habesha> HOw can I do this in Putty and what options should I use?
[10:05] <flyinghippo> Wheee, I just installed Ubuntu.  <3
[10:05] <signalvsnoise> Some_Person: what provider are you using?
[10:05] <snowflake> So funny, no one is reading what I type
[10:05] <blanky> sudo deb-pkg reconfigure something?
[10:05] <saxofoner> flyinghippo: Yayy!
[10:05] <Some_Person> AT&T Yahoo
[10:05] <lynucs> Some_Person: so dhclient says nothing??
[10:05] <deepsa> sbcl3: /join #deepsa
[10:05] <saxofoner> I did that the other day
[10:05] <blanky> anyone?!
[10:05] <Some_Person> it gives an error
[10:05] <blanky> kinda desperate here
[10:05] <pike_> Riyonuk: paste this to terminal     wget http://70.87.113.84/tremulous/tremulous-1.1.0-installer.x86.run
[10:05] <rabar> Hi i try to connect to a pc card modem I have so I run a modprode usbserial etc command but then I get a fatal error message that i cant access the usb devices
[10:05] <lynucs> Some_Person: whihc error
[10:05] <Riyonuk> opteek, why?
[10:05] <daedra> snowflake: yes - all about questions and answers
[10:05] <frotzed> Hello all
[10:05] <toulouse> hey guys, i want ot use azureus, but what do i do?
[10:05] <toulouse> i want to download a linux distro quicker
[10:06] <mike> toulouse, download, install, run, that's it
[10:06] <Some_Person> no dhcpopen or something
[10:06] <semicide> ok...the touchpad is so sensitive that i can't make use of it...i'm constantly selecting things i don't intend merely trying to move the pointer
[10:06] <Genius314> Does anyone know how to configure a Wacom tablet?
[10:06] <toulouse> well, it's running, but what do i do from there?
[10:06] <blanky> :(
[10:06] <Riyonuk> pike_, 404 not found
[10:06] <semicide> how does one configure the touchpad?
[10:06] <lynucs> Some_Person: maybe no dhcpoffer?
[10:06] <opteek> Riyonuk, google is working fine for me
[10:06] <saxofoner> semicide look in xorg.conf
[10:06] <Some_Person> thats it
[10:06] <pike_> Riyonuk: type    dig ubuntu.com
[10:06] <mike> go to btjunkie.org and search for a torrent.  Save the torrent file to disk.  Then load the torrent file into Azureus.  The rest points out itself.
[10:06] <pike_> does it give you an ipaddress?
[10:06] <saxofoner> try to find something about threshold, semicide
[10:07] <lynucs> ok, do you have dhcp on your router activated??
[10:07] <opteek> Riyonuk, There was a major earthquake this morning that damaged several transcontinental communication cables
[10:07] <frotzed> I have downloaded the liveCD and it says to boot from this CD to run Ubuntu.  I insert the disk into my CD drive, restart the computer and it automatically boots Windows.
[10:07] <Some_Person> dont know
[10:07] <frotzed> What's the deal?
[10:07] <lynucs> Some_Person: or using a static ip under windows?
[10:07] <Some_Person> no
[10:07] <stefg> lynucs: don't waste your keystroke... Soe_Person has already tried the obvious things... it seems that his router/modem uisn't able to lease a dhcp -IP to a linux box
[10:07] <Genius314> Frotzed: go into your BIOS
[10:07] <semicide> thanks saxofoner...
[10:07] <frotzed> I did that, changed the boot drive order so the CD drive is first.
[10:07] <Genius314> Frotzed: ok then I don't know
[10:08] <lynucs> stefg: so maybe he hasnt dhcp runing on his router?
[10:08] <mike> frotzed: your bios probably doesn't first boot from cd.  Enter bios and change the boot order.
[10:08] <frotzed> I'll double check.
[10:08] <saxofoner> semicide:  Probably won't help, I'm not exactly a pro, but that's where I would first look
[10:08] <lynucs> Some_Person: which router do you have
[10:08] <pike_> Riyonuk: anyway once you get the file type "bash tremulousinstaller.run" and install to your home directory i usually make a ~/games or ~/local folder in home to install to
[10:08] <frotzed> thanks.
[10:08] <stefg> lynucs: as his windows install shows, it has some sort of dhcpd running... but nothing dhclient likes to digest
[10:08] <flyinghippo> So... is it possible to edit a list of resolutions?
[10:08] <metguru> hey guys, can someone help me install an RPM?
[10:08] <mike> often people don't burn the cd right.  Often people end up with a cd with a single iso file on it.  That's not how you make a cd.
[10:09] <flyinghippo> Screen resolutions, tyhat is.
[10:09] <flyinghippo> *that
[10:09] <CHSober> does anyone know what the exact system requirements are for ubuntu (i.e. processor spec, ramm etc?) just wondering if I should be using xubuntu instead (I've got an old low end machine which I want to try linux on) as ubuntu takes absolutley ages to boot
[10:09] <Ropor> -
[10:09] <Ropor> SElam
[10:09] <Genius314> flyinghippo: are you trying to get a different resolution then the 3 (?) listed?
[10:09] <mike> The iso itself is a filesystem, and the burning software will need to be told to burn using an iso file.
[10:09] <metguru> When I do extract it doesn't seem to work
[10:09] <flyinghippo> There is only one listed, Genius314.
[10:09] <saxofoner> CHSober:   Nah, but Xubuntu is a lot faster on oldie
[10:09] <snowflake> How can I switch back to Windows? =(
[10:09] <jacked> stefg: thanks. I'm looking now... was just wondering if anyone had any favourite resources dealing with this...  if setting up midi support under linux on a macbook is anything like setting up anything else non-mac on a macbook, I'm in for a hell of a lot of work.  bloody macs.
[10:09] <saxofoner> *oldies
[10:09] <Ropor> amnza koyaym hepinizin .
[10:09] <CHSober> ok, thanks
[10:09] <mike> there is no back to windoze...
[10:09] <mike> grin
[10:09] <Genius314> flyinghippo: oh. Well mine shows 3, but I need to edit the list, also.
[10:10] <Ropor> amnza koyaym hepinizin .
[10:10] <Ropor> amnza koyaym hepinizin .
[10:10] <Ropor> amnza koyaym hepinizin .
[10:10] <Ropor> amnza koyaym hepinizin .
[10:10] <snowflake> ........................................
[10:10] <lynucs> Some_Person: could you run "cmd" under windows and type "ipconfig /all" and then pastebin it?
[10:10] <flyinghippo> Genius314: Do you know where I can find the list?
[10:10] <metguru> hey guys, can someone help me install an RPM? When I do extract it doesn't seem to work...
[10:10] <snowflake> Was that a joke?....
[10:10] <mike> "extract an rpm" ?
[10:10] <Genius314> flyinghippo: not really
[10:10] <gnomefreak> metguru: ubuntu doesnt use RPM we use debs
[10:10] <kingace> i just installed a UATA hard drive into my existing computer. the existing sata driver is set at "cable select" rather than master\slave and so i did the same with the uata, and in the bios the primary hdd is the existing sata that ubuntu is installed on. however, when I boot now, I get some messages about logical blocks and then the screen goes completely black and nothing happens. help?
[10:10] <mike> Under a Redhat flavoured system, you'd install using 'rpm -i something.rpm'
[10:11] <snowflake> I don't understand any of these computer people. -__-
[10:11] <mike> But under Ubuntu you use pkg's.  It's debian based
[10:11] <toulouse> azureus doesnt want to do anything
[10:11] <metguru> gnomefreak: aagh
[10:11] <snowflake> Huh?  Were you talking to me?
[10:11] <mike> apt-get install name  - downloads and install 'name' automatically
[10:11] <metguru> gnomefreak: then how do i install it?
[10:11] <Genius314> flyinghippo: type "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" into terminal, and go to the section labled "screen"
[10:11] <flyinghippo> Thanks.
[10:11] <gnomefreak> metguru: what app are you tring to install?
[10:11] <snowflake> WHAT THE
[10:11] <stefg> jacked: i gave up sound-enginneering 10 yrs. ago :-)... but jono bacon (ubuntu-community manager) is taking part in jokosher (sort of Emagic Logic for Linux).... he might employ you as a beta tester on mac hardware :-)
[10:11] <metguru> gnomefreak: Limewire
[10:11] <snowflake> I'm sorry O__O
[10:11] <gnomefreak> !limewire
[10:11] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[10:11] <mike> can you load the file with the .torrent extension into azureus?
[10:12] <metguru> gnomefreak: is that not a possiblity
[10:12] <gnomefreak> metguru: read that link
[10:12] <metguru> gnomefreak:ok, thanks
[10:12] <gnomefreak> yw
[10:12] <daedra> snowflake: this is just a help channel really - theres no conversation as such
[10:12] <Red-Sox> http://pastebin.ca/293734
[10:12] <saxofoner> !FrostWire
[10:12] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[10:12] <Genius314> flyinghippo: it should list some resolutions. Just be careful about editing it.
[10:12] <mike> azureus works a kabillion times better than limewire or any other gnutella based network.  also has way way way more content.
[10:12] <daedra> i think theres an off-topic channel
[10:12] <snowflake> But how about MY question?
[10:12] <saxofoner> mmmhmm open source
[10:12] <snowflake> =(
[10:12] <delifapurwa> #indonesia
[10:12] <toulouse> hey when i try to open a bittorent file it never downloads it ! i just says connecting to peers
[10:13] <delifapurwa> hi every bodi
[10:13] <metguru> is frostwire as good as limewire?
[10:13] <toulouse> and azureus doesnt do anything
[10:13] <XChrisCX> Hi Everyone.
[10:13] <mike> you'll get it working once you solve the rpoblems.
[10:13] <BigToe> I just lost the game
[10:13] <tuxub> has anyone managed to run flumotion on edgy?
[10:13] <mike> does the .torrent file load ?
[10:13] <snowflake> Erm...how do I go to another channel then?  What is this thing?  O__O
[10:13] <BigToe> metguru, yes
[10:13] <BigToe> you'll barely notice a difference
[10:13] <Genius314> So does anyone want to help me? I need to change my screen resolution to 1280x1024.
[10:13] <BigToe> they look almost identical :S
[10:14] <metguru> BigToe: then i should probably try that
[10:14] <XChrisCX> I need some help with the w32codecs. I have tried all the command line installs.
[10:14] <toulouse> mike: it downloads a .torrent file to my desktop, then when i open with bittorent, it just sits there
[10:14] <tuxub> the flumotion-admin hangs on login
[10:14] <Some_Person> has anyone managed to get a siemens dsl modem working?
[10:14] <jacked> stefg: that's interesting. I'm definitely Ubuntu-dependant (and have been for a while) and most certainly have a strong will to get this running. If you're half serious about this, perhaps you could point me in the right direction to explore.
[10:14] <XChrisCX> Nothing works.
[10:14] <pike_> azureus is very nice but a memory hog
[10:14] <XChrisCX> Can someone PM me and help?
[10:14] <toulouse> azureus wont open the .torrent file
[10:14] <dmc__> Genius314: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[10:14] <wims> !restrictedformats
[10:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:14] <willemijns> hi, is anyone know what is the commadline used by synaptic to install packages ?
[10:14] <mike> system -> preferences -> screen resolution ?
[10:14] <toulouse> apt-get
[10:14] <toulouse> i think*
[10:14] <wims> willemijns,  sudo apt-get install <packagename>
[10:14] <lynucs> Some_Person: woudl you run "cmd" and type there "ipconfig /all" and pastebin it?
[10:14] <XChrisCX> I have been to that page.
[10:15] <Some_Person> yep
[10:15] <toulouse> hey but how do i get it past this "connecting to peers" stage?
[10:15] <mike> azureus runs fairly lean on my machine
[10:15] <Genius314> dmc_: Is that like the configuration editor?
[10:15] <mike> you can't use 'ps' to tell you how much an app is using, btw - this is probably news to most...
[10:15] <Some_Person> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39064/
[10:15] <willemijns> wims > it does not works, it refuse my package, it is for this reasion i ask ;) i'm on root
[10:15] <lynucs> hold on a sec
[10:16] <mike> that's because ps will show you the memory including all the shared libraries.
[10:16] <pike_> mike: well i dont have the greatest comp but if i used xp id be on utorrent in linux i use ktorrent
[10:16] <mike> also, use java 1.6, which runs faster.
[10:16] <mike> azureus uses java...
[10:16] <wims> willemijns,  what exactly is the error message? dont paste it here, paste it in pastebin.ca
[10:16] <wims> and post the link
[10:17] <mike> azureus runs a 1 on my so so linux box.
[10:17] <mike> it's got only 256 MB
[10:17] <Genius314> Also has anyone ever configured a Wacom tablet in Ubuntu?
[10:17] <dharmesh> hi every1
[10:17] <flyinghippo> This is strange.
[10:18] <flyinghippo> xorg.conf has my resolution configured.
[10:18] <XXChrisCXX> Ok whos the technical wizard here?
[10:18] <flyinghippo> But in my preferences, only 1024x768 is listed.
[10:18] <flyinghippo> My resolution is 1280x800.
[10:18] <lynucs> Some_Person: i'm not sure.. so dhcp is running.. if you type "sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.3" in the terminal (linux), can you ping 192.168.0.1?
[10:18] <mike> me smells rebooting happening here ;-)
[10:18] <Genius314> flyinghippo: my resolution is configured in xorg, also. But I still can't have the right resolution.
[10:18] <SurfnSanta> r33b00t
[10:18] <dharmesh> can any1 pls tell whts d best 3d action game tht can be played in ubuntu ?
[10:18] <dmc__> Some_Person: Any particular reason why your IP is diff than you Gateway range?
[10:18] <lynucs> where eth0 is your NIC device
[10:19] <flyinghippo> Doom... 3?
[10:19] <pike_> flyinghippo: horiz and vert settings maybe off
[10:19] <Some_Person> i dont know why
[10:19] <dharmesh> how 2 get doom 3 ?
[10:19] <XXChrisCXX> Everytime I try to install w32codecs I get Password:
[10:19] <XXChrisCXX> Reading package lists... Done
[10:19] <XXChrisCXX> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:19] <XXChrisCXX> gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg is already the newest version.
[10:19] <XXChrisCXX> gstreamer0.10-gl is already the newest version.
[10:19] <XXChrisCXX> gstreamer0.10-plugins-base is already the newest version.
[10:19] <XXChrisCXX> gstreamer0.10-plugins-good is already the newest version.
[10:19] <XXChrisCXX> Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:19] <Some_Person> i can switch to a public ip address if i have to
[10:19] <XXChrisCXX> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[10:19] <XXChrisCXX> is only available from another source
[10:19] <XXChrisCXX> E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate
[10:19] <stefg> !paste | XXChrisCXX
[10:19] <ubotu> XXChrisCXX: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:19] <XXChrisCXX> chrispche@chrispche-desktop:~$
[10:19] <XXChrisCXX> Any Ideas?
[10:19] <Some_Person> !paste | XXChrisCXX
[10:19] <mike> try changing the monitor - X is one of the weakest spots on Linux, and therefore can be somewhat of a bitch to tame at times.  Sometimes is just work without fiddling, but often it needs TLC.
[10:19] <daedra> XXChrisCXX: use pastebin
[10:20] <dharmesh>  how 2 get doom 3 ?
[10:20] <XXChrisCXX> Ok.
[10:20] <dharmesh>  how 2 get doom 3 ?
[10:20] <dharmesh>  how 2 get doom 3 ?
[10:20] <dharmesh>  how 2 get doom 3 ?
[10:20] <mike> also avoid ATI at all cost, it just plain sucks, period.
[10:20] <lynucs> Some_Person: before i forget, you aren't using wireless lan?
[10:20] <gnomefreak> !w32codecs | XXChrisCXX
[10:20] <ubotu> XXChrisCXX: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:20] <finalbeta> !restricted | XXChrisCXX
[10:20] <Some_Person> no
[10:20] <stefg> patience | dharmesh
[10:20] <stefg> !patience | dharmesh
[10:20] <ubotu> dharmesh: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:20] <dharmesh> sorry
[10:20] <lynucs> ok so can you ping your router if you give your NIC an ip manually?
[10:20] <pike_> dharmesh: buy doom3 for windows then download the linux installer for it. or download the the linux demo
[10:20] <mike> the developers that work at ATI are so mediocre it aint funny
[10:20] <XXChrisCXX> If it's restricted how do I go about playing mp3 and DivX formats?
[10:20] <RxDx> what is better.. EasyUbuntu or Automatix?
[10:21] <XXChrisCXX> Automatix.
[10:21] <LjL> !automatix
[10:21] <finalbeta> XXChrisCXX, by reading the page.
[10:21] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[10:21] <gnomefreak> XXChrisCXX: its ont he same page
[10:21] <Some_Person> i tried to give ubuntu the ip 192.168.1.64, and i couldn't ping my router
[10:21] <stefg> mike: but this a known fact for 10 yeras now...
[10:21] <RxDx> XXChrisCXX, is it true, ill get problems?
[10:21] <dmc__> Some_Person: your router is at 192.168.0.* no 192.168.1.*
[10:21] <lynucs> was the ip really changing? did you check it with ifconfig then?
[10:21] <Some_Person> correct
[10:21] <XXChrisCXX> I have been to that page and followed all the instructions. To no avail.
[10:21] <opteek> !worksforme
[10:21] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[10:22] <mike> good, no ATI supporters here, I'm happy
[10:22] <pike_> dharmesh: free alternatives enemy territory, tremulous there are others
[10:22] <RxDx> !easyubuntu
[10:22] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[10:22] <dmc__> Some_Person: so try to give ur manual ip in the 192.168.0.* range
[10:22] <gnomefreak> XXChrisCXX: than you dont have multiverse and universe repos enabled
[10:22] <Genius314> mike: That's probably my problem... I have two ATI cards in this computer
[10:22] <geekender> Weird sound issue, question from friend:  I booted it today and found the usual sound problem, so I'll stick
[10:22] <geekender> with Breezy until . . .    One other datapoint:  I booted Gnoppix and
[10:22] <geekender> had good sound.
[10:22] <geekender>     The "bad sound" isn't a matter of having no sound but rather the
[10:22] <geekender> sound is played very, very slowly.  The normal Ubuntu boot sound of just
[10:22] <geekender> a few drum beats lasts for many minutes, maybe an hour.  When I got the
[10:22] <geekender> system to start to play a .wav file, the elapsed-time display took 20
[10:22] <geekender> minutes to increment one second -- I kid you not, I timed it.  Other
[10:22] <geekender> times a one second increment would take maybe 5 seconds.  At first I
[10:22] <gnomefreak> geekender: stop pasting
[10:22] <geekender> thought the system had no sound, but what it has is really slow sound --
[10:22] <opteek> wtf
[10:22] <lynucs> Some_Person: dmc just said what i would say
[10:22] <chrissturm> is there an easy way to create a fstab from the partitions i have currently mounted?
[10:22] <Some_Person> like 192.168.0.2?
[10:22] <LjL> Ubotu, tell geekender about paste | geekender, see the private message from Ubotu
[10:22] <XXChrisCXX> Ok thanks. And how do I go about that? Cheers.
[10:22] <lynucs> Some_Person: exactly
[10:22] <dmc__> Some_Person: ya
[10:22] <Genius314> mike: Well I'm pretty neutral about ATI, but it's been giving me problems lately
[10:22] <stefg> Some_Person: your router is on the x.x. *0*. x -subnet... so try again with 192.168.0.10, as i'm suggesting you for 3h now
[10:22] <Some_Person> ok
[10:22] <toulouse> what is kget?
[10:22] <gnomefreak> !repos | XXChrisCXX
[10:22] <ubotu> XXChrisCXX: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[10:22] <toulouse> !kget
[10:22] <ubotu> kget: download manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 431 kB, installed size 1176 kB
[10:22] <dmc__> lynucs: haha thanks for the assist
[10:22] <geekender> have problems in a newer version -- but then I've no idea what sort of
[10:22] <Some_Person> i tried 192.168.0.10
[10:22] <geekender> changes are made in going from version to version.  Same story with
[10:22] <lynucs> and mybe you could set another dhcp range
[10:22] <geekender> distro to distro.
[10:22] <mike> Genius: step #1, remove ATI cards, step #2, insert NVidia cards, step #3 cross your fingers while you reconfigure, done
[10:23] <daedra> ahh flooding is hurting my eyes!
[10:23] <opteek> toulouse, an app for downloading files
[10:23] <toulouse> ok
[10:23] <toulouse> hey is ftp a good way to download an iso?
[10:23] <Genius314> mike: no, step #1 is to BUY an nVidia card
[10:23] <gnomefreak> kde version of wget if i had to guess
[10:23] <dharmesh>  how 2 get doom 3 ?
[10:23] <toulouse> cause i cant get bittorent to work, i dont know how
[10:23] <lynucs> set your dhcprange to 192.168.0.2 to ~.0.100
[10:23] <opteek> toulouse, acceptable way
[10:23] <Genius314> although I might have a few lying around somewhere
[10:23] <mike> that's ok too, so long as the "remove ATI" is correctly and fully implemented ;-)
[10:23] <toulouse> darn bittorent how do i work it???
[10:24] <habesha> Can someone give me an idea on how to convert a key generated by PuTTY (.ppk) into OpenSSH format using ssh-keygen??
[10:24] <toulouse> !bittorent
[10:24] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[10:24] <LinTux> I would like to thank everybody who tried to help me delete the corrupt files I had in trash. In the end I had to run the western digital software supplied with the drive to get rid of them, Thanks all!
[10:24] <LjL> !msg the bot > toulouse
[10:24] <stefg> toulouse: some ISPs throttle or block bittorrent....
[10:24] <gnomefreak> dharmesh: that was answered a while ago. either download the linux demo or buy windows version of it and use the linux installer
[10:24] <opteek> toulouse, you need to make sure you have the proper ports open if you are using a router
[10:24] <linux1> hiya ppl having a problem burning dvd for some reason it soooo slow never about 1.2x  (dma is on) any idea whats up
[10:24] <toulouse> hmm..
[10:24] <toulouse> ok
[10:24] <mike> One could proceed by slowly crushing the ATI card in a bench.  Or place it carefully on an anvil, and beat the f'ing sh#$ out of it using the biggest frigging hammer one could find.
[10:25] <dharmesh> ok thanx........ sorry didnt notice bcoz of flooding
[10:25] <Genius314> mike: lol. But, of course then I won't have any graphics cards at all... But if I took some wires and metal, I could probably make a better-than-ATI video card :-p
[10:25] <metguru> can someone help me? I installed frostwire, and now when i click on the applications->internet->Frostwire nothing happens
[10:25] <pike_> toulouse: what is the problem?
[10:25] <gnomefreak> metguru: edgy?
[10:25] <geekender> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39066/
[10:25] <metguru> gnomefreak: yea
[10:25] <mike> it could theoretically be used as a doorstopper - would probably scratch the floor though.
[10:25] <LjL> geekender, that's basically a forum post... so have you tried posting it on the forums?
[10:25] <toulouse> hey, my trash thinks it's empty but it's not
[10:25] <ubuntuuser> what is the command for deleting a dir with stuff in it?
[10:25] <toulouse> any tips?
[10:26] <LjL> ubuntuuser: man rm
[10:26] <gnomefreak> metguru: you need to fix the script to read bin/bash instead of /bin/sh
[10:26] <mike> I wouldn't recommend flushing it down the toilet, unless you follow up with some draino.
[10:26] <habesha> Can someone give me an idea on how to convert a key generated by PuTTY (.ppk) into OpenSSH format using ssh-keygen??
[10:26] <geekender> LjL, the student that I got the error from already tried
[10:26] <metguru> gnomefreak: thanks
[10:26] <mike> rm -rf dir
[10:26] <geekender> no one responded
[10:26] <stefg> geekender: creative way of using pastebin :-)... your problem is alsa
[10:26] <pike_> toulouse: ls ~/.Trash  if no files show up its empty
[10:26] <metguru> gnomefreak: how do i do that?
[10:26] <Riyonuk> Why is the itnernet so slow? I mean  Xchat is fine, would a re-install of FF fix the problem?
[10:26] <LinTux> I am getting the following Error - E: graphviz-cairo: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127 - any help would be appreciated.
[10:26] <Riyonuk> Is this site slow for anyone? tremulous.info/
[10:27] <Riyonuk> dharmesh, uhh go buy it?
[10:27] <geekender> stefg: can you elaborate or give me a link I can refer my student to?
[10:27] <Genius314> So can anyone help my Wacom tablet problem?
[10:27] <Riyonuk> I have a question now, it seems google or any website doesnt load. It couldnt be my connection because Im talking in Xchat right now, althout that Xchat lag bar keeps going up
[10:27] <metguru> gnomefreak:sorry i don't know where the directory for applications is
[10:27] <gnomefreak> metguru: you try not to. give me a minute there might be abnother wahy
[10:27] <hmg4> Riyonuk: It may be your DNS servers that are slow.
[10:27] <mike> some internet providers slow you down when they detect peer to peer downloading.
[10:27] <metguru> gnomefreak: ok
[10:27] <Riyonuk> hmg4, how do I fix that?
[10:27] <gnomefreak> metguru: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure bash
[10:27] <stefg> geekender: have you worked through !sound already ?
[10:27] <linux1> Hi having a problem burning dvd for some reason it soooo slow never about 1.2x  (dma is on) any idea whats up
[10:27] <stefg> !sound
[10:27] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[10:27] <pike_> Riyonuk: cat /etc/resolv.conf you should have once entry like nameserver 192.168.0.1 or whatever.  how many nameserver entries and what are they?
[10:27] <Riyonuk> Yup...still waiting for google to load
[10:27] <gnomefreak> metguru: what does it say?
[10:27] <geekender> !sound
[10:27] <dharmesh> sorry man i m into fully open source n no properitary
[10:27] <signalvsnoise> Riyonuk: I had this problem with my dsl router caching DNS and being broken in some odd way that was amazingly slow for linux computers but not windows.
[10:27] <opteek> Riyonuk, works fine for me, google and tremulouk.info
[10:28] <alienseer23> help, I have no sound!
[10:28] <finalbeta> mike, they  would throttle the connections they detect to be p2p. Not http traffic.
[10:28] <stefg> !sound
[10:28] <geekender> oops, okay...help a noobie and tell me what you mean
[10:28] <alienseer23> !sound
[10:28] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[10:28] <stefg> !sound | gekkender
[10:28] <ubotu> gekkender: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[10:28] <ubuntuuser> what is the command for deleting a dir with sojmething in i/
[10:28] <LjL> geee
[10:28] <stefg> !sound | geekender
[10:28] <ubotu> geekender: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[10:28] <metguru> gnomefreak: it asked for my password, then just went back to chris@Lukas:~$
[10:28] <LjL> !botabuse
[10:28] <Music_Shuffle> Gyah..stop!
[10:28] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[10:28] <signalvsnoise> Riyonuk: are you using Verizon DSL?
[10:28] <hmg4> Riyonuk: You change your prim DNS server. What OS are you on? Ubuntu? Are you using a router? Do you have a static IP?
[10:28] <opteek> ubuntulog, rm -rf directory
[10:28] <Music_Shuffle> Some of us are seeing entire screens fly by -.-;
[10:28] <geekender> !sound in Ubuntu command line?
[10:28] <geekender> gy
[10:28] <LjL> if you call a factoid *ONCE*, it will not allow to call it again within the next couple of seconds
[10:28] <geekender> ty
[10:28] <gnomefreak> metguru: in terminal try running frostwire
[10:28] <LjL> .. and that's because it makes no sense to
[10:28] <LinTux>  I am getting the following Error - E: graphviz-cairo: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127 - any help would be appreciated.
[10:29] <Music_Shuffle> LjL, clearly that point was missed. :P
[10:29] <metguru> gnomefreak: i don't know where its installed to
[10:29] <metguru> gnomefreak: sorry, im new to linux
[10:29] <gnomefreak> metguru: just type frostwire
[10:29] <metguru> ok
[10:29] <Genius314> Anyone at all have a Wacom tablet?
[10:29] <metguru> gnomefreak: it said command not found
[10:29] <dharmesh> does this allow pm?
[10:29] <gnomefreak> good
[10:29] <pike_> dharmesh: if registered
[10:29] <bun-bun> Genius314# i have one.  but i'm not using it
[10:29] <gnomefreak> ok metguru give me a sec i need the name of the .sh file
[10:29] <dharmesh> ok
[10:29] <hmg4> Riyonuk: Can you surf faster using IP only?
[10:30] <stefg> hmg4: LOL!
[10:30] <dharmesh> so this is free node ?
[10:30] <Genius314> bun-bun: well do you know how to configure it? My mouse acts like a pen.
[10:30] <hmg4> stefg: What is LOL?
[10:30] <stefg> hmg4: what do you rthink you're using
[10:30] <methy> haha
[10:30] <methy> lol = laugh out loud
[10:30] <mike> I take it ubuntu rejected the infamous Beagle project?
[10:30] <gnomefreak> metguru: did you download the .deb file?
[10:30] <metguru> gnomefreak: yes
[10:30] <LinTux>  I am getting the following Error - E: graphviz-cairo: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127 - any help would be appreciated.
[10:30] <pike_> dharmesh: this is the ubuntu channel on freenode
[10:30] <gnomefreak> metguru:  type sudo dpkg -i FrostWire-4.10.9-2.i586.deb
[10:31] <hmg4> stefg: .... Using a pure IP insteed of a name like www.google.com....
[10:31] <dharmesh> ok
[10:31] <dharmesh> how 2 use apache?
[10:31] <gnomefreak> metguru: replace the name with the name of your version
[10:31] <dharmesh> whts d diff btw apache n apache2?
[10:32] <mike> woof, all this computer hacking is making me very thirsty, I think I'll order a tap...
[10:32] <Genius314> When I pick up my mouse and place it back on the tablet, the cursor appears somewhere else on the screen. How do I fix this?
[10:32] <stefg> hmg4: it takes a short while to look up the IP on the dns-server (actually it's cached anyway).... do you recall people by names, or by their telephone-number?
[10:32] <opteek> stop picking your mouse up!
[10:32] <gnomefreak> metguru: did it give you errors?
[10:32] <apokryphos> mike: "rejected"?
[10:32] <metguru> gnomefreak: it said no such file or dir
[10:32] <gnomefreak> metguru: where did you download it to?
[10:33] <gnomefreak> metguru: is it in home or desktop or where?
[10:33] <apokryphos> mike: there's no real super integrated tool into ubuntu, if that's what you mean. Apparently there will be a real focus though, on either tracker or beagle. No news on that yet.
[10:33] <pike_> dharmesh: im not much on webservers you can type /join apache and they might be able to answer better
[10:33] <pike_> !apache dharmesh
[10:33] <ubotu> apache: versatile, high-performance HTTP server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.34-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 380 kB, installed size 812 kB
[10:33] <hmg4> stefg: Do even know what the Q was? He is asking why his internet is so slow he says Xchat is fast etc. If his DNS servers are slow it does not mean his connection to the internet is slow
[10:33] <metguru> gnomefreak: lol, idk, i just did open with package installer, then it popped up asking if i wanted to install
[10:34] <gnomefreak> metguru: thats another way
[10:34] <metguru> gnomefreak: and i clicked install
[10:34] <chrissturm> how can i reconfigure networking from the console?
[10:34] <metguru> gnomefreak: should i d/l it to the desktop
[10:34] <gnomefreak> metguru: did it install without errors?
[10:34] <adaptr> chrissturm: in many ways, what do you want to achieve ?
[10:34] <pike_> dharmesh: well that didnt tell you much.. goto wiki.ubuntu.com and search for apache there are good guides there
[10:34] <metguru> gnomefreak: yea
[10:34] <chrissturm> adaptr: i want to reconfigure the package that configures networking.
[10:34] <marcell_> chrissturm : if u r using pppoe, then type pppoeconf
[10:34] <dharmesh> wil try d wiki
[10:34] <gnomefreak> metguru: nake sure you have java installed
[10:34] <hmg4> stefg: So if his ISPs DNS servers are slow or down resolving names will be slow.
[10:35] <gnomefreak> metguru: than you should beable to run it
[10:35] <adaptr> chrissturm: huh ?
[10:35] <stefg> !ipv6 | hmg4
[10:35] <ubotu> hmg4: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[10:35] <metguru> gnomefreak: aww man, sorry, i didn't even know i needed that
[10:35] <fnord_> i changed my xorg devices sect: to read unichrome via and openchrome(each on diffrent restarts)and xorg wont start up,i get the errormodual does not have a unichrome modualdata:data object or something like that
[10:35] <stefg> hmg4: that's IPv6 in his way, not the DNS
[10:35] <chrissturm> adaptr: dpkg-reconfigure <packagename> but i dont know what package contains basic networking
[10:35] <gnomefreak> metguru: yep frostwire and limewire are both very dependant on java
[10:35] <fnord_> im tring to use openchrome
[10:35] <dharmesh> do we nid a firewall n antivirus s/w in ubuntu ?
[10:35] <Genius314> anyone know why Beep media player keeps pausing songs on me randomly?
[10:35] <LjL> Ubotu, tell dharmesh about virus | dharmesh, see the private message from Ubotu
[10:35] <pike_> metguru: amule is an alternative that works well for me
[10:36] <LinTux> anybody now a cure for this error (E: graphviz-cairo: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127)
[10:36] <adaptr> chrissturm: "basic networking", hmmo-kay.. and what do you think will get reconfigured it you manage to do that ?
[10:36] <adaptr> chrissturm: here's a hint: it won't be your network configuration....
[10:36] <metguru> gnomefreak: it only gives me the choice of RPM and self-extracting
[10:36] <pedro> hello guys
[10:36] <gnomefreak> metguru: for what?
[10:36] <hmg4> stefg: .... What is it you don't understand?
[10:36] <metguru> gnomefreak: for java
 there is... iptables, i think (as a firewall) and u can use ClamAV as antivir
[10:36] <gnomefreak> metguru: enable your repos and install it using apt-get
[10:37] <gnomefreak> !java | metguru
[10:37] <ubotu> metguru: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[10:37] <chrissturm> adaptr: very helpful,. thanks
[10:37] <metguru> gnomefreak: what is repos?
[10:37] <LjL> Ubotu, tell metguru about repos | metguru, see the private message from Ubotu
[10:37] <gnomefreak> !repos | metguru
[10:37] <ubotu> metguru: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[10:38] <stefg> hmg4: what i don't understand is how people come up with the idea of being faster by remembering IP-numbers (doing the DNS' job manually) than just typing an alphanumeric name
[10:38] <metguru> ooh repositories
[10:38] <adaptr> chrissturm: I'm not joking, either you think doing this will somehow change your network settings, or you have a situation you have not bothered to explain
[10:38] <metguru> sorry
[10:38] <dharmesh> i hav firestarter n Aegis virus scanner .... is it ok ?
[10:38] <chrissturm> adaptr: i just want to create /etc/network/interfaces through debconf
[10:38] <gnomefreak> dharmesh: not much of a need for it unless your running a windows server
[10:39] <adaptr> chrissturm: oh.. okay, might have said so :)
[10:39] <LinTux>  anybody now a cure for this error (E: graphviz-cairo: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127)
[10:39] <LjL> stefg: hmg4 was quite clearly trying to *troubleshoot* a network slowness problem. ruling out slow DNS is a *perfectly valid* troubleshooting route, also considering that i don't think there's any name caching built into the main network subsystem. disabling IPv6 is another valid possibility, since it's known to cause slowness in Ubuntu sometimes.
[10:39] <dharmesh> ok
[10:39] <gnomefreak> LinTux: yes remove the package or fix the source code
[10:39] <Graviton> Is there a way to permanently change ubuntu grub-config (so that it wont change when I upgrade my kernel)?
[10:39] <adaptr> chrissturm: IIRC there is a full debian man page for it, man 5 interfaces
[10:39] <wy> What's the best music player to use in gnome?
[10:39] <gnomefreak> LinTux: hint file a bug on it
[10:39] <Fraj> Hi
[10:40] <adaptr> chrissturm: it's not very hard to set up
[10:40] <Fraj> how can i upgrade my ubuntu?
[10:40] <pike_> wy: xmms
[10:40] <LinTux> gnomefreak "which package m8"
[10:40] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Fraj about upgrade | Fraj, see the private message from Ubotu
[10:40] <chrissturm> adaptr: so you dont know in what package it is.
[10:40] <Fraj> thank you
[10:40] <gnomefreak> LinTux: the one that is failing to install
[10:40] <marcell_> wy xmms
[10:40] <adaptr> Graviton: set up your own menu choices and ignore the ubuntu-maintained ones
[10:40] <stefg> LjL: ok, I misunderstood something (due to having a telephone conversation)... no offence intended, i just missed the first half
[10:40] <j_ack> Genius314 have you configure your wacom-tablet?
[10:40] <LinTux> they are all failing due to this error?
[10:40] <Fraj> You can only upgrade to Edgy from Ubuntu 6.06 ("Dapper Drake")
[10:40] <wy> I tried to something like amarok
[10:40] <Asc> wy - banshee's also okay if you're looking for something more like itunes
[10:40] <Fraj> how do i know if i got dapper drake?
[10:41] <adaptr> chrissturm: ferchrissakes man, google "ubuntu package networking" takes what ? 5 whole seconds ?
[10:41] <gnomefreak> LinTux: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:41] <LjL> Fraj: lsb_release -a
[10:41] <pike_> wy: amarok is nice but bloated imo
[10:41] <marcell_> wy maybe rythmbox ?
[10:41] <metguru> gnomefreak: what package do i install?
[10:41] <gnomefreak> metguru: sun-java5-plugin
[10:41] <Fraj> yep i got dapper thanks
[10:41] <wy> pike_: amarok can't work well in gnome
[10:41] <gnomefreak> wy: try them all find the one you like
[10:41] <XXChrisCXX> How do I edit sources.list ans
[10:41] <fnord_> is it possible to get the menu bar from kubuntu,on gnome?
[10:41] <chrissturm>  adaptr: thanks for trying to be helpful
[10:41] <XXChrisCXX> and save.
[10:41] <LjL> XXChrisCXX: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:42] <Some_Person> still no connection in ubuntu
[10:42] <XXChrisCXX> Ok thanks.
[10:42] <Some_Person> http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/5663/screenshot3dl3.png
[10:42] <fnord_> XXChrisCXX, sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:42] <j_ack> Genius314 ?
[10:42] <pike_> Some_Person: considered a router? :)
[10:42] <lynucs> Some_Person: you has quit a bit too early :)
[10:42] <mlehrer> how do i stop totem from launching when i insert a DVD?
[10:42] <adaptr> chrissturm: thanks for being lazy, I guess. or for being used to being serviced ? I 'm not sure which
[10:42] <superkirbyartist> Hello, I installed lexmark z600 driver, but cannot use it in "Add Printer"
[10:42] <XXChrisCXX> Just out of interest what does sudo mean do etc?
[10:42] <metguru> gnomefreak: when i searched in the package manager, that didn't come up
[10:42] <Graviton> adaptr: Trouble is that every time I upgrade my kernel (whether it be vanilla or ubuntu's) my /boot/grub/menu.lst is changed so I get the splash-screen
[10:42] <Some_Person> quit what?
[10:42] <hmg4> stefg: "..slow DNS is a *perfectly valid*" That's what I am saying. for example, He where saying his google is slow, so try to surf to google using a IP-number soly in the adress bar, there much better ways to trubbleshoot but it works
[10:42] <Graviton> Bother the hell out of me
[10:42] <Some_Person> and it is a router
[10:42] <gnomefreak> metguru: did you enable all your repos
[10:43] <daedra> exit
[10:43] <lynucs> i wanted to say, that you'd better set in your router the dhcprange from 192.168.0.100 - 192.168.0.199
[10:43] <lynucs> :)
[10:43] <fnord_> XXChrisCXX, | !sudo
[10:43] <LinTux> gnomefreak: getting this now - root@arl1963-desktop:/home/arl1963# sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:43] <LinTux> Setting up graphviz-cairo (2.8-2) ...
[10:43] <LinTux> /var/lib/dpkg/info/graphviz-cairo.postinst: 11: dot: not found
[10:43] <LinTux> dpkg: error processing graphviz-cairo (--configure):
[10:43] <LinTux>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127
[10:43] <LinTux> Errors were encountered while processing:
[10:43] <dharmesh> is ubotu an auto chat script ?
[10:43] <LinTux>  graphviz-cairo
[10:43] <timfrost> !sudo | XXChrisCXX
[10:43] <fnord_> !sudo | XXChrisCXX
[10:43] <ubotu> XXChrisCXX: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:43] <chrissturm> adaptr: i still dont know what package its in, i will just edit /etc/network/interfaces by hand. what i dont get is what you try to tell me :)
[10:43] <wy> I haven't find if the iTunes like interface is for me yet. I guess I need some getting used to
[10:43] <gnomefreak> LinTux: remove that package than
[10:43] <adaptr> Graviton: yes, but if you check what is actually changed, it is the menu items that ubuntu has put in there, so just add your own and boot with those - you might even exchange the names of ubuntu's kernel and initrd for your own, so they won't be changed either
[10:43] <lynucs> do you know how to do this?
[10:43] <metguru> gnomefreak: i don't know...
[10:43] <superkirbyartist> I installed z600 drivers for lexmark, but I cannot use them when I try to add a new printer.  Help please?
[10:43] <pike_> dharmesh: bot yes.  you can /msg ubotu .. to chat with em
[10:43] <fnord_> i changed my xorg devices sect: to read unichrome via and openchrome(each on diffrent restarts)and xorg wont start up,i get the errormodual does not have a unichrome modualdata:data object or something like that
[10:43] <LinTux> go on then what command m8
[10:44] <metguru> gnomefreak: how do i do that
[10:44] <dharmesh> ok
[10:44] <gnomefreak> LinTux: try sudo dpkg -r packagename
[10:44] <Graviton> I see, adaptr, thank you
[10:44] <adaptr> chrissturm: what I *am* telling you is that googling for ubuntu package networking will certainly tell you which package it is in
[10:44] <gnomefreak> !multiverse | metguru
[10:44] <ubotu> metguru: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[10:44] <stefg> Some_Person: I ask myself if this wouldn't be a valid support request for your ISP. As we've found out the problem exists between the modem/router and your nic. Since the ISP decided to ship you *this* modem, he should be able to support it.... just to take a new route in thinking
[10:44] <superkirbyartist> gnomefreak: did you see what I said about Lexmark?
[10:45] <Some_Person> they dont support linux at all
[10:45] <lynucs> Some_Person: the only last thing i'd say is to change your dhcp range
[10:45] <Some_Person> and the modem works in windows
[10:45] <Fraj> how can i play .wmv files in ubuntu?
[10:45] <Some_Person> and i cant
[10:45] <gnomefreak> superkirbyartist: did you build them?
[10:45] <gnomefreak> Fraj: mplayer
[10:45] <LinTux> gnomefreak: getting this when I try to remove - root@arl1963-desktop:/home/arl1963# sudo dpkg -r  graphviz-cairo
[10:45] <LinTux> (Reading database ... 141768 files and directories currently installed.)
[10:45] <LinTux> Removing graphviz-cairo ...
[10:45] <LinTux> /var/lib/dpkg/info/graphviz-cairo.postrm: 11: dot: not found
[10:45] <LinTux> dpkg: error processing graphviz-cairo (--remove):
[10:45] <LinTux>  subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 127
[10:45] <pike_> !restricted | Fraj
[10:45] <ubotu> Fraj: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:45] <LinTux> Errors were encountered while processing:
[10:45] <gnomefreak> LinTux: use pasttebin
[10:45] <LinTux>  graphviz-cairo
[10:45] <lynucs> Some_Person: you cant chage the range? or you don't know how to?
[10:45] <dharmesh> how 2 set up a LAN ?
[10:45] <daedra> !paste
[10:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:45] <Some_Person> cant
[10:45] <LinTux> sorry m8
[10:45] <superkirbyartist> gnomefreak: I installed them and everything, but it doesn't appear in "Add Printer".
[10:45] <LinTux> sorry everybody
[10:46] <XXChrisCXX> Arhh on Red Hat sudo used to be su
[10:46] <daedra> !paste | LinTux
[10:46] <ubotu> LinTux: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:46] <gnomefreak> LinTux: please file a bug on that
[10:46] <Some_Person> not something my router allows
[10:46] <lynucs> Some_Person: can you get into the configuration of your router by typing 192.168.0.1 in your browser?
[10:46] <Some_Person> yes
[10:46] <lynucs> oh ok
[10:46] <XXChrisCXX> Anyway I have amended the sources.list file do I need to re-boot?
[10:46] <LinTux> appologies Ubotu & daedra
[10:46] <lynucs> ok i understand.. but how is it possible..
[10:46] <lynucs> how old is your router?
[10:46] <Fraj> thank you!
[10:46] <Some_Person> less than a month
[10:46] <gnomefreak> superkirbyartist: dont have a lexmark the last time i walked someone through installing them it was on dapper during devel
[10:47] <AlteredBeast> i'm looking to buy a sata controller
[10:47] <pike_> XXChrisCXX: "sudo apt-get update" after you make a change to that file
[10:47] <stefg> Some_Person: I'd call my ISP and boldly state: This modem doesn't offer any dhcp-leases... fix taht :-)
[10:47] <gnomefreak> XXChrisCXX: sudo apt-get update
[10:47] <lynucs> tell me your model of your router
[10:47] <LinTux> gnomefreak how do i do that
[10:47] <AlteredBeast> and wondering if this one is compatible
[10:47] <gnomefreak> !bugs | LinTux
[10:47] <ubotu> LinTux: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[10:47] <Some_Person> siemens speedstream 4100
[10:47] <XXChrisCXX> Ok all this I'm doing will help me mp3s yes?
[10:47] <AlteredBeast>  PROMISE FastTrak TX2300
[10:47] <metguru> gnomefreak: i think they're all enabled
[10:47] <lynucs> hold on a sec
[10:47] <dharmesh> how 2 set up a LAN ?
[10:47] <Some_Person> it appears to be a modem and a router
[10:47] <daedra> flooding is especially annoying when your in irssi commandline
[10:47] <superkirbyartist> Anyone can PLEASE help me with Lexmark?
[10:47] <superkirbyartist> !lexmark
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lexmark - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:47] <XXChrisCXX> I mean I can play them on VLC but I want to the whole system to be compatible.
[10:47] <lynucs> Some_Person: yes, its fine
[10:47] <superkirbyartist> !z600
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about z600 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:47] <lynucs> Some_Person: i'll try to check out
[10:47] <gnomefreak> metguru: pastebin the output of cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:48] <superkirbyartist> Well ubotu you're dumb.
[10:48] <daedra> lol
[10:48] <marcell_> LOL
[10:48] <Music_Shuffle> ...lol
[10:48] <gnomefreak> !hardware | superkirbyartist
[10:48] <ubotu> superkirbyartist: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[10:48] <AlteredBeast> can anyone confirm or deny if this sata card is supported?
[10:48] <AlteredBeast>  PROMISE FastTrak TX2300
[10:48] <gnomefreak> read the list find your printer install the drivers as they state to
[10:48] <AlteredBeast> uboto, thanks
[10:49] <Music_Shuffle> I love when people thank ubotu.
[10:49] <marcell_> :D
[10:49] <AlteredBeast> ha
[10:49] <AlteredBeast> well, that site is pretty limited
[10:49] <dharmesh> any chat programs which use d webcam n mike in ubuntu ?
[10:49] <AlteredBeast> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSerialATAControllers
[10:49] <AlteredBeast> only a single entry
[10:49] <fnord_> !thanks
[10:49] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[10:49] <AlteredBeast> i'm sure more work, no?
[10:49] <pike_> dharmesh: ekiga maybe
[10:50] <gaten> bots have feelings too!
[10:50] <fnord_> is it possible to get the menu bar from kubuntu, on gnome?
[10:50] <superkirbyartist> There's a tutorial (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5496) for my  printer.
[10:50] <fnord_> AI
[10:50] <superkirbyartist> Followed everything
[10:50] <fnord_> !gosu
[10:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gosu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:51] <pike_> dharmesh: you could use vlc to stream and display webcams it it doesnt
[10:51] <lynucs> Some_Person: go setup --> dhcp and there you'll see start ip range and end ip range
[10:51] <metguru> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39069/
[10:51] <adaptr> chrissturm: the man page for interfaces tells me it is part of the "ifupdown" package
[10:51] <LjL> fnord_: ?
[10:51] <jbjuly> help!, anyone know how to recover the windows partition?
[10:51] <klaudio_>  /join #razmjenavjestina
[10:51] <TG__> I've followed the guide to install beryl on the beryl wiki, everything went well, but when i select the beryl window manager, my window borders aren't showing up, what am i doing wrong?
[10:51] <stefg> Some_Person: I just looked at the Siemens specs for the thingy : quote "The 4100 Ethernet model works with any Ethernet equipped PC, regardless of operating system" so ask your vendor, why it doesn't...
[10:51] <dharmesh> but vlc is a media player n not a chat program
[10:51] <fnord_> LjL, yes?
[10:52] <dharmesh> how 2 LAN Ubuntu n Windows XP ?
[10:52] <LjL> fnord_: <fnord_> is it possible to get the menu bar from kubuntu, on gnome? <fnord_> AI <fnord_> !gosu
[10:52] <gnomefreak> metguru: you also need to enable universe repos
[10:52] <LjL> ... elaborate
[10:52] <gnomefreak> once you do that you should be good to go
[10:52] <Some_Person> my vender is a stupid isp that won't tell me any linux stuff
[10:52] <Music_Shuffle> !samba | dharmesh
[10:52] <ubotu> dharmesh: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:52] <lynucs> Some_Person: go Setup --> dhcp
[10:52] <Some_Person> in what?
[10:52] <lynucs> in your router config
[10:52] <LjL> jbjuly: which windows partition, what does it need to be recovered for
[10:52] <jbjuly> I just did a dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=2 to clear my MBR, but the problem is I use count=2, now the partition table is lost, but the data is still in there, I want to recover the data, is there a software for it?
[10:53] <MarianoGuerra> buenas
[10:53] <snowflake> !ubotu
[10:53] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:53] <LjL> !es | MarianoGuerra
[10:53] <ubotu> MarianoGuerra: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[10:53] <Some_Person> there is no setup
[10:53] <fnord_> 1:)the aplications/system/etc menu from kubuntu,i like it and would like to use it under gnome,without het kubuntu desktop package
[10:53] <Some_Person> or router config
[10:53] <lynucs> Some_Person: type 192.168.0.1 in your borwser
[10:53] <Some_Person> ok
[10:53] <Music_Shuffle> Haha.  I love how you let him get to 'G'day' before stopping him LjL ;p
[10:53] <Some_Person> i get the config
[10:53] <metguru> gnomefreak: it says in the Synaptic package manager that the universe is checked
[10:53] <lynucs> Some_Person: fine, go to setup
[10:53] <gnomefreak> metguru: from what you showed me its the only one not enabled
[10:53] <lynucs> Some_Person: click on it
[10:53] <LjL> !gpart | jbjuly
[10:53] <Some_Person> there is no setup
[10:53] <ubotu> gpart: Guess PC disk partition table, find lost partitions. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1h-4 (edgy), package size 34 kB, installed size 112 kB
[10:54] <XXChrisCXX> Ok it's late in South Africa. Thanks for the help.
[10:54] <stefg> Some_Person: i tell you what my idea is: they put a ill-engineered, supplier-branded firmware on it... it's broken, they only tested it for win
[10:54] <superkirbyartist> Dudes, I got the printer for Xmas.
[10:54] <lynucs> Some_Person: did you enter your password?
[10:54] <fnord_> LjL, 2:) AI someone said robots have feeling too,
[10:54] <Some_Person> its already there
[10:54] <snowflake> How do I use VMware player, please?
[10:54] <dharmesh> pls help.........................
[10:54] <dharmesh> dharmesh@dharmesh-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install samba
[10:54] <dharmesh> Reading package lists... Done
[10:54] <dharmesh> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:54] <dharmesh> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[10:54] <dharmesh> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[10:54] <dharmesh> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[10:54] <lynucs> Some_Person: so did you log in there?
[10:54] <dharmesh> or been moved out of Incoming.
[10:54] <Some_Person> like i said there's no setup
[10:54] <dharmesh> Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
[10:54] <Some_Person> its already logged in
[10:55] <saxofoner> Hey guys!  I wrote a TUTORIAL!!! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1937222#post1937222   Could some Twinview users try it for me?  If there are any...
[10:55] <Some_Person> thats how i log in to the internet
[10:55] <metguru> gnomefreak: when i go into the manager->settings->repositories the community maintained open source software (universe) is checked
[10:55] <lynucs> so which optians are available there then??
[10:55] <LjL> snowflake: vmplayer <config-file>, or sudo vmplayer <config-file> if that fails
[10:55] <superkirbyartist> Dudes: I got the Lexmark x1270 printer for Xmas, followed instructions to install it, installed drivers, they do not appear in "Printer Manager" of Ubuntu.  Please help me.
[10:55] <fnord_> LjL, gosu is a game
[10:55] <Some_Person> login (which says its already logged in), connection information, check connection, advanced
[10:55] <LjL> fnord_: ok, what about 1? what do you mean?
[10:55] <Music_Shuffle> superkirbyartist, is the printer supported?
 try it with synaptic
[10:56] <superkirbyartist> Music_Shuffle: Dialup takes forever to load.
[10:56] <lynucs> Some_Person: what buttons are there which you could click? if any
[10:56] <Some_Person> the ones i listed
[10:56] <lynucs> hmm..
[10:56] <Some_Person> login (which says its already logged in), connection information, check connection, advanced
[10:56] <foo> Anyone know of any SCO Ansi terminal emulators ? I can't seem to get this to work for the life of me
[10:56] <flyinghippo> So... I edited a list of screen resolutions in xorg.conf, manually reconfigured it in Terminal, and rebooted.
[10:56] <lynucs> but i'm reading the proper manual of that router :)
[10:56] <jbjuly> LjL: even after I did a dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=2? I'm using a LiveCD right now in an external CD-ROM, I have a external HD, but the usb bay is occupied, I guess I'm really out of luck
[10:57] <flyinghippo> However, my resolution still won't go into the list.
[10:57] <stefg> Some_Person: read this http://www.dslreports.com/faq/amfaq/3._Software_Issues#5925 ?
[10:57] <lynucs> ok hold on a sec again :)
[10:57] <Some_Person> but i have an isp that customized the config
[10:57] <lynucs> oh
[10:57] <dharmesh_> pls help..........
[10:57] <dharmesh_> dharmesh@dharmesh-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install samba
[10:57] <dharmesh_> Reading package lists... Done
[10:57] <dharmesh_> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:57] <dharmesh_> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[10:57] <dharmesh_> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[10:57] <lynucs> Some_Person: which isp
[10:57] <dharmesh_> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[10:57] <dharmesh_> or been moved out of Incoming.
[10:57] <Music_Shuffle> superkirbyartist, did you check ubuntuforums?
[10:57] <dharmesh_> Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
[10:57] <Some_Person> AT&T Yahoo
[10:57] <LjL> jbjuly, well, i can't say if it will work of course, but what about trying? the program looks like it's made for exactly that kind of situation
[10:57] <marcell_> dharmesh_ Synaptic
[10:57] <Some_Person> formerly SBC Yahoo
[10:57] <Music_Shuffle> he's gone.
[10:57] <LjL> twice.
[10:57] <Music_Shuffle> Lol.
[10:57] <nix_ferret> How do you fix file associations in ubuntu?
[10:58] <Some_Person> theres an SBC logo on the config page
[10:58] <lynucs> arrghhh...
[10:58] <metguru> gnomefreak: is there a command to enable this
[10:58] <fnord_> LjL, the aplications/system/etc menu from kubuntu,i like it and would like to use it under gnome,without het kubuntu desktop package
[10:58] <pike_> nix_ferret: magic :)
[10:58] <nix_ferret> Yeah, I tried that from the terminal, but no go...
[10:58] <wy> banshee doesn't seem to work. It seems I need to install something else?
[10:58] <superkirbyartist> Printer doesn't appear on Ubuntu list; however, it says "works perfectly" on Linux Printing.
[10:58] <Music_Shuffle> superkirbyartist, did you try this thread?
[10:58] <snowflake> How do I update VMware Player, please?
[10:59] <Music_Shuffle> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-297768.html
[10:59] <lynucs> Some_Person: ok i'll try to get some info
[10:59] <marcell_> wy isn't Rythmbox good for you?
[10:59] <LjL> snowflake: update from what to what?
[10:59] <AlteredBeast> here's a post i made:
[10:59] <AlteredBeast> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1937238
[10:59] <stefg> snowflake: you don't
[10:59] <AlteredBeast> any help appreciated
[10:59] <LjL> fnord_: err... eh? it's *Ubuntu* (i.e. Gnome) that has an Applications/System/Places menu. Kubuntu has a single menu with a "K" icon.
[10:59] <wy> marcell_: It can't even import my music into the library
[10:59] <stefg> !kubuntu
[10:59] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[10:59] <snowflake> LjL: Update from 1.0.2.2 to 1.0.3.
[11:00] <LjL> snowflake: wait for Feisty, or for a backport.
[11:00] <marcell_> wy huh :s then I don't know, I use and like xmms, but it's not like amaroK
[11:00] <pike_> nix_ferret: not really sure how naut handles them but gui tool should be under one of the preferences in main dropdown menu
[11:00] <pike_> nix_ferret: used to be in olde gnome/nautilus
[11:00] <trilingualkid> Hi. I just tried out Kubuntu 2 minutes ago. I'm can't decide whether I want to stay with Ubuntu or move to Kubuntu. How should I choose?
[11:01] <superkirbyartist> I didn't buy the printer, some dude gave it to me for Xmas.
[11:01] <jbroome> trilingualkid: flip a coin
[11:01] <LjL> trilingualkid: try both. for a while each.
[11:01] <marcell_> LOL :D
[11:01] <pike_> trilingualkid: try xubuntu too before you decide :)
[11:01] <lcatta> I am attempting to set up my wireless network card, and was wondering if anyone could give me some help?
[11:01] <snowflake> Do the Ubuntu nicknames go in alphabetical order, please?
[11:01] <drow_> I've managed to setup my HP printer using HPLIP & CUPS, however the margins seem slightly off (they are bigger than a letter sized page). what do i need to do to adjust this?
[11:01] <LjL> Ubotu, tell lcatta about wifi | lcatta, see the private message from Ubotu
[11:01] <nix_ferret> How do it figure out what app without telling? File headers?
[11:01] <tolas_> hi all, how do I get a running background process (of vi) to open up into a running vi again?
[11:01] <nix_ferret> does*
[11:01] <trilingualkid> pike_:what's the difference btween xfce and gnome?
[11:01] <flyinghippo> Does GTK2 come bundled with Ubuntu?
[11:01] <superkirbyartist> lcatta: Oughta be working out the box.
[11:01] <LjL> flyinghippo: yes
[11:01] <Scuzz> xfce is more lighter weight
[11:01] <Music_Shuffle> xfce is less demanding and more lightweight.
[11:01] <flyinghippo> Thanks.  :D
[11:01] <LjL> Ubotu, tell flyinghippo about gui | flyinghippo, see the private message from Ubotu
[11:01] <trilingualkid> scuzz:what does that mean?
[11:01] <fnord_> LjL, theres the K then places and system or admin something like that
[11:01] <huffy> will fedora load on to a laptop, i cant get ubuntu to work on my laptop because of the ATI issue, or is there anything simular that will work?
[11:02] <pike_> trilingualkid: xfce uses gtk too but its lighter weight environment. better for older system or picky people like me
[11:02] <Scuzz> you have to use the command line more though, but it never hurts to work on that
[11:02] <superkirbyartist> trilingualkid: I use Xfce, can do everything Gnome can, more effective on my iMac than KDE.
[11:02] <LjL> fnord_: if you add them, yes... they're separate icons though. but in Gnome you simply *already* have those three separate menus by default, so i'm not sure what you're looking for
[11:02] <pike_> trilingualkid: gnome gtk themes will work in xfce too for instance
[11:02] <LjL> fnord_: anyway, no, you can't use Kicker applets in the GNOME panel. nor viceversa
[11:02] <excitatory> so.. the rendering speed of firefox on my system is horrible.  konq render speed is nice, but i don't use it too frequently for www.  over the holiday weekend i was on a slower ubuntu and windows machine, and firefox rendering speeds were phenomenally faster than my much faster box..
[11:02] <crowley1027> I just bought a surround sound system with 3 outputs going to 3 different analog line in's and i don't have 3 line in's....
[11:03] <snowflake> Is Ubuntu open-source, please?
[11:03] <crowley1027> can i set it up?
[11:03] <LjL> snowflake: yes
[11:03] <Scuzz> yes it is open source
[11:03] <mattions> snowflake:  Yes :)
[11:03] <superkirbyartist> Anyone know where Ubuntu puts printer drivers?
[11:03] <LjL> snowflake: there are packages that are not open source, however.
[11:03] <trilingualkid> pike_:my pc is only a month old. I don't think that xubuntu would fit it well, then.
[11:03] <Music_Shuffle> trilingualkid, install it and run it when you feel like.
[11:03] <fnord_> i changed my xorg devices sect: to read unichrome via and openchrome(each on diffrent restarts)and xorg wont start up,i get the errormodual does not have a unichrome modualdata:data object or something like that
[11:03] <Music_Shuffle> excitatory, something's off there >.>
[11:03] <fnord_> LjL, thanks
[11:04] <trilingualkid> Does xfce look exactly like gnome? or is there a diff?
[11:04] <gaten> excitatory:  try this: http://www.tweakguides.com/Firefox_2.html
[11:04] <cyphase> how do you make Epiphany shrink tabs like Firefox does?
[11:04] <fnord_> LjL, what aboute the mac like menu bar?
[11:04] <Scuzz> enterprise edition is a server os right?
[11:04] <LjL> trilingualkid: it looks different, which is because it *is* a different environment. they both use GTK, though.
[11:04] <pike_> trilingualkid: it depends.. i like it on my linux gaming machine.  i use fluxbox (very lightweight) on my 64 bit comp. *shrugs*
[11:04] <superkirbyartist> I am looking for the printer drivers on my computer (hard drive); where does Ubuntu store them?
[11:04] <haxality> does anyone have any good links for gnome customization?
[11:04] <LjL> fnord_: no luck. that doesn't even work with non-KDE apps *while* you're running them in KDE
[11:05] <trilingualkid> LjL: what is GTK? (this is my fourth day with Linux)
[11:05] <Scuzz> gnome-look.org
[11:05] <LjL> Ubotu, tell trilingualkid about gtk | trilingualkid, see the private message from Ubotu
[11:05] <superkirbyartist> Please where does Ubuntu store drivers for printers?
[11:05] <Scuzz> or google it
 http://gnome-look.org
[11:05] <stefg> trilingualkid: xubuntu is best for machine with 64 to 256 MB RAM and a weak CPU.... like P III' s. If you have 512MB+ and a 1GHz+ CPU  go for Gnome or KDE
[11:05] <huffy> will fedora load on to a laptop, i cant get ubuntu to work on my laptop because of the ATI issue, or is there anything simular that will work?
[11:05] <trilingualkid> How does ubotu work?
[11:06] <saxofoner> He's a vot
[11:06] <LjL> Ubotu, tell trilingualkid about bot | trilingualkid, see the private message from Ubotu
[11:06] <saxofoner> *bot
[11:06] <drow_> Can someone help me adjust the margins on an HP printer?
[11:06] <marcell_> huffy debian?
[11:06] <trilingualkid> how do you get ubotu to work?
[11:06] <LjL> ?
[11:06] <saxofoner> you type something with a ! in front of it, and it says its knowledge on that topic.
[11:06] <saxofoner> !ubotu
[11:06] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:06] <saxofoner> Thre
[11:06] <saxofoner> There you go
[11:06] <trilingualkid> What do you type in?
[11:06] <LjL> what about you just read the message i just had it send you?
[11:06] <pike_> drow_: try http://localhost:631  or google about cups maybe
[11:06] <saxofoner> "!ubotu"
[11:07] <superkirbyartist> OK I ALREADY INSTALLED THE DRIVERS!  WHERE ARE THEY STORED?!
[11:07] <saxofoner> !linux
[11:07] <ubotu> linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[11:07] <LjL> !caps | superkirbyartist
[11:07] <ubotu> superkirbyartist: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:07] <trilingualkid> saxofoner: ok.... i'll try it.
[11:07] <stefg> that was foreseeable :-)
[11:07] <marcell_> !asm
[11:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about asm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:07] <trilingualkid> !LjL | Ubuntu
[11:07] <LjL> !msg the bot
[11:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about LjL - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:07] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[11:07] <trilingualkid> hm.....
[11:07] <trilingualkid> that didn't work
[11:07] <marcell_> !assembly
[11:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about assembly - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:07] <marcell_> !assembler
[11:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about assembler - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:07] <superkirbyartist> WHERE ARE THE DRIVERS FOR PRINTING?!
[11:08] <stefg> ouch!
[11:08] <saxofoner> !caps
[11:08] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:08] <pike_> anyone wanting to talk to ubotu "/msg ubotu .."
[11:08] <linux_scholar> !xubuntu
[11:08] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[11:08] <linux_scholar> !xfce
[11:09] <LjL> !botabuse | linux_scholar
[11:09] <ubotu> linux_scholar: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[11:09] <Music_Shuffle> Wow. That quieted the channel much.
[11:09] <stefg> ... pheeewww...
[11:09] <saxofoner> !ubotu
[11:09] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:09] <saxofoner> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:09] <huffy> whats the differences between ubuntu and debian?
[11:09] <LjL> well, i guess the ones who had anything interesting to say were overwhelmed by the bot abuse...
[11:09] <LjL> Ubotu, tell huffy about debian | huffy, see the private message from Ubotu
[11:09] <linux_scholar> LjL:do i have to go to the ubuntu-bots channel to use the bot?
[11:09] <pike_> huffy: ubuntu is considered more desktop friendly
[11:10] <saxofoner> ubuntu runs on debian
[11:10] <skitz00> is there ubuntu for my pda?
[11:10] <LjL> linux_scholar: that, or just start a private query. type /query ubotu
[11:10] <LjL> saxofoner: it does?
[11:10] <huffy> thx
[11:10] <linux_scholar> LjL: thanx.
[11:10] <LjL> skitz00: no
[11:10] <stefg> linux_scholar: /msg ubotu [factoid] 
[11:10] <saxofoner> !debian | huffy
[11:10] <ubotu> huffy: Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship
[11:10] <skitz00> any linux for my pda?
[11:10] <LjL> skitz00: which PDA?
[11:10] <huffy> which pda
[11:10] <lupine_85> IOW, ubuntu forked debian (as the joke goes :D)
[11:11] <defiant> Am I inthe right place to find out how to install flash? I have a 64bit system and cannot get it to work.
[11:11] <skitz00> axim x51v
[11:11] <saxofoner> yes defiant
[11:11] <saxofoner> we can help
[11:11] <defiant> excellent
[11:11] <LjL> Ubotu, tell defiant about flash64bit | defiant, see the private message from Ubotu
[11:11] <Music_Shuffle> lupine_85, I like that one ;P
[11:11] <defiant> I have seen that and have tried it, and i am still totally lost with it
[11:11] <signalvsnoise> Anybody know of any good cron guis for xubuntu?
[11:11] <ubuntuuser> anyone here use gimpshop?
[11:11] <Scuzz> xfce does look very nice
[11:12] <saxofoner> ubuntuuser: I'd like to, how do you install it?
[11:12] <skitz00> i want linux on my axim x51v
[11:12] <saxofoner> ubutu, linux > me
[11:12] <saxofoner> hmm...
[11:12] <defiant> I keep getting no installation candidate when I run
[11:12] <defiant> sudo apt-get install ia32-libs ia32-libs-gtk linux32
[11:12] <saxofoner> buh bye, all.
[11:13] <stefg> saxofoner: syntax error in line #1
[11:13] <nix_ferret> turboprint cost $$$ but it works very easily, specially for n00bs
[11:13] <ubuntuuser> lol, not sure, trying to find out now, i was thinking of dowloading the rpm from the site, using alien to convert it, and then installing it that way. anyone think that should work fine?
[11:13] <skitz00> there must be something
[11:13] <LjL> skitz00: http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/DellAximX50 but it seems in a very early stage
[11:13] <sime> Hi all! I've got problem with mouse becoming jerky when system is under heavy IO to hdd or from DVD/CD. Is there a way to give X higher priority or something similar?
[11:14] <LjL> skitz00, well, it won't fall down from the sky for sure
[11:14] <skitz00> and wrong model
[11:14] <skitz00> thats the old model
[11:14] <arand> Hello! Where does Evolution store emails and the contact list? I need to recover a broken system and those are the most important files to back up.
[11:14] <LjL> skitz00: google hints to the fact that it shouldn't matter
[11:14] <LjL> still, it's in pre-alpha anyway.
[11:15] <stefg> arand: ~/.evolution is the dir to backup, first
[11:15] <skitz00> 200 mhz difference won't matter
[11:15] <Adion> I've got a problem with the install. When running the CD install, it says there's was a problem with xorg and that it couldn't load. I think it's something to do with the graphical installer, and it not recognizing my video card. Is there a text installer for 6.10?
[11:15] <arand> thanks stefg
[11:15] <defiant> can someone please walk me through or give me a hand with this?
[11:15] <ubuntuuser> how do i install a tar.gz package?
[11:15] <pike_> ubuntuuser: it usually works but if youre comfortable with it id compile instead or search for a deb
[11:15] <LjL> skitz00, well, actually, http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/DellAximX51
[11:15] <LjL> Ubotu, tell ubuntuuser about tgz | ubuntuuser, see the private message from Ubotu
[11:15] <arand> Are there any important documents not stored under /home/?
[11:15] <defiant> I saw the private message
[11:15] <LjL> ubuntuuser: if by "package" you actually mean a Slackware package, then don't.
[11:16] <defiant> and that did not help because I keep getting errors
[11:16] <Asc> sime,  is dma enabled for hdd and the cd drive?
[11:16] <stefg> LjL: is that a macro of your IRC client you're using?
[11:16] <pike_> arand: /etc/ config files maybe
[11:16] <LjL> arand: not ones that you can create while not being root
[11:16] <LjL> stefg: yes
[11:16] <stefg> k
[11:16] <ubuntuuser> um, i don't know. i downloaded the gimpshop in that format, and am not wondering how to use it
[11:16] <sime> ubuntuuser, try tar -xzvf yourtarthing.tar.gz. Then in folder yourtarthing there should be something to help you install sw.
[11:17] <Mathew> Is the Alternate CD the 64bit PC one?
[11:17] <stefg> !alternate
[11:17] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[11:17] <apokryphos> Mathew: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[11:17] <arand> Is there any way to install from CD, and replace everything but the contents of /home?
[11:17] <defiant> Not trying to be rude, but has anyone seen my request?
[11:18] <Adion> Agh. So I should have downloaded the alternate CD...
[11:18] <apokryphos> arand: not unless you have /home on a seperate partition
[11:18] <superkirbyartist> Hello?!
[11:18] <stefg> arand: yes, by having /home on a separate partition
[11:18] <skitz00> guess it will be a while
[11:18] <Asc> sime, it probably won't help much, but you *can* change the priority of X.  'pgrep xorg', then 'renice -5' the resulting process number.
[11:18] <sime> Has someone here played with making X more responsive under heavy load? I'd like to know how to do that.
[11:18] <arand> thanks apokryphos
[11:18] <mlehrer> sime: me too
[11:18] <sime> thanx Asc!
[11:18] <stefg> sime: check the COn Kolivas kernel patches
[11:18] <Asc> sime, And there's probably a better way to do that.  Maybe somebody here knows what it is.
[11:19] <skitz00> i hate bein stuck in windows
[11:19] <Asc> Sime, the first think I'd do is make sure that DMA is enabled on all the drives, though.
[11:19] <LjL> arand: i think i'd suggest using the Alternate CD for something like that. and being careful, too.
[11:19] <aman> hey i was thrown out bcoz of copy pastin my problem
[11:19] <LjL> arand: but, yeah, it can be done if you know your way around a little.
[11:19] <aman> y ?
[11:19] <superkirbyartist> WHY DO YOU SAY "MERRY XMAS" BUT YOU DON'T HELP ME WITH MY PRINTER?
[11:19] <cwatson> sime: the lighter weight window managers might behave better under heavy load
[11:19] <JC_rtk> hi, does anyone ever have problems with this url in the sources.list when you do updates - http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu it seems to stop and start alot for me :(
[11:20] <stefg> aman: freenode is nervous today... i get disconnected every 30 minutes
[11:20] <arand> LjL: How little is "a little"
[11:20] <Asc> superkirbyartist, chill.  It's entirely possible that nobody active at the moment knows how to make your printer work.
[11:20] <fnord_> !Patiance
[11:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Patiance - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:20] <skitz00> cups
[11:20] <aman> r we allowed 2 copy paste here ?
[11:20] <sime> Thanx for sugestions! hdparm sayes DMA is on.
[11:20] <fnord_> paitance
[11:20] <fnord_> !paitance
[11:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paitance - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:20] <stefg> !paste | aman
[11:20] <ubotu> aman: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:21] <fnord_> damn you illiteracy!!!!
[11:21] <LjL> arand, basically, you need to start the cd, then go to a console, mount your / partition, delete everything but /home, then go back to the installer, proceed, but select manual partitioning and instruct it to avoid formatting
[11:21] <M0E^lnx> does kubuntu edgy 6.10 feature xorg 7.1 like the other edgy release does?
[11:21] <cwatson> does anyone know why top would show a high overall cpu usage but show 0% usage for each process.
[11:21] <gaussian88> lmao
[11:21] <Asc> sime: Interesting.  I've not had the mouse slow down even on old hardware, except when dma was off.
[11:21] <aman> ok
[11:21] <gaussian88> lmao @ fnord_
[11:21] <sime> Got to run. Thanx for help and advices. Bye.
[11:21] <defiant> Hello?
[11:21] <fnord_> yup
[11:21] <aman> i m tryin 2 install samba but it gives errors
[11:21] <arand> LjL: Thanks, I'll try that... after backing up /home
[11:21] <fnord_> i changed my xorg devices sect: to read unichrome via and openchrome(each on diffrent restarts)and xorg wont start up,i get the errormodual does not have a unichrome modualdata:data object or something like that
[11:22] <pike_> lol thats the second time superkirby has left before i could answer
[11:22] <ctothej> can some one help me troubleshoot my installation of ATI fglrx drivers on Edgy?>
[11:22] <skitz00> i can at least use ssh on my pda so it will kinda be like im running linux!
[11:22] <crowley1027> I need help.  I just bought a surround sound system.  My PC has an audio card with a serial-looking port, and 3 jacks (line in, out, mic).  I have 3 separate plugs for the surround sound though...any thoughts?
[11:22] <aman> 3.0.22-1ubuntu3
[11:22] <ctothej> fglrxinfo gives me connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[11:22] <stefg> pike_: don't worry.... we're living in an era with short attention spans :-)
[11:22] <M0E^lnx> anybody?.....
[11:22] <defiant> Is anyone able to help me?
[11:22] <fnord_> can some one help me troubleshoot my installation of openchrome dirvers on edgy?
[11:23] <aman> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:23] <aman>   samba: Depends: samba-common (= 3.0.22-1ubuntu3) but 3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1 is to be installed
[11:23] <aman> E: Broken packages
[11:23] <skitz00> wheres the off topic chan?
[11:23] <fnord_> defiant, whats your problem?
[11:23] <stefg> !offtopic
[11:23] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:23] <fnord_> #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:23] <defiant> I am trying to run 32bit firefox so I can have flash
[11:23] <defiant> it is not working
[11:24] <pike_> crowley1027: im no expert on sound setups but if card doesnt suppport 5.1 a nice sound blaster is like $29
[11:24] <aman> i think i hav 2 edit d sourcelist file
[11:24] <stefg> !easysource
[11:24] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:24] <crowley1027> pike_: can i just pick it up at a local walmart?
[11:24] <nweaver916> quick question...what option in the sshd_config makes it so the server REQUIRES a key (i.e. no password logins allowed)
[11:24] <gaussian88> defiant: the almighty google overlords gave me this when searching
[11:24] <pike_> crowley1027: er sblive card i mean. yeah
[11:24] <gaussian88> defiant: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1174435
[11:24] <gaussian88> maybe there is something there that will help?
[11:25] <defiant> I did search and I got a thread that shows how to do it, but when those steps are performed, there is an error message
[11:25] <arte_> hi ppl!
[11:25] <JC_rtk> freenode seems to be really lagging for me. it's taking 5/6 minutes (maybe more) for people's messages to come through. i.e. it's 22:25 on my clock and the last message which came through was at 22:19. is everyone else having this problem too? if not it must be to do with the url in my sources.list which i'm using right now for updates and having problems with too :(
[11:25] <arte_> can u tell me where is main cfg file for keyboard shortcuts ?
[11:25] <defiant> stating package ia32-libs-gtk has no installation candidate
[11:25] <gaussian88> defiant: hmmm.   Yeah.  I've never done this before, just tought I could do a little to try to help....
[11:25] <defiant> I appreciate it
[11:26] <kohr_> yo, i just got a new pair of headphones with a mike, USB, and suprisingly they work on ubuntu, exept that the volume control is not working, it shows the volume going up and down but it seems to have no effect on the headphones volume.  However the mute button works for the mike
[11:26] <fla> hi, ubuntu sucks (today ;)). http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=326432 <- please have a look. it is _really_ urgent.
[11:26] <arte_> i want manually edit it, coz some shrtcts cant be disabled
[11:27] <apokryphos> fla: a brief description of your problem with the link often helps
[11:27] <gaussian88> defiant: it really just looks like the ia32-libs package isn't available.  Did you try to grab that separately, then install all the other stuff required?
[11:27] <TheGateKeeper> defiant, you probable don't have your /etc/apt/sources.list fully enabled
[11:27] <gaussian88> defiant: looks like everything else is available in the multi/universe
[11:28] <kohr_> i am trying to get the volume control to work with a pair of headphones
[11:28] <defiant> I have been working on this issue for two straight days
[11:28] <gaussian88> TheGateKeeper: ia32-libs looks like it's not there
[11:28] <defiant> with no solution
[11:28] <fla> okay, my creative soundblaster isn't recognised by ubuntu, cat proc/sound/cards doesn't show the device, only my tv card. alsa also doesn't recognize my soundcard. my new install is a fresh install, the old worked fine, with sound. please have a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=326432 ;)
[11:28] <gaussian88> defiant: patience
[11:28] <arte_>  can u tell me where is the main cfg file for keyboard shortcuts ?
[11:28] <gaussian88> or as fnord_ would say:  patiens32345jfa
[11:28] <fnord_> defiant, sorry i cant help you,have you tried the forums?ive been trying to enable 3d rendering for a few days
[11:29] <nweaver916> kohr: I had to modify the applet to use the alsamixer "headphone" control, instead of master (at least on my laptop)
[11:29] <fnord_> gaussian88, you forgot the Q
[11:29] <gaussian88> lol
[11:29] <defiant> I have searched the forums as well and everyone keeps pointing me to the url that I received in pm
[11:29] <defiant> no problem fnord
[11:29] <kohr_> nweaver916, which applet?
[11:29] <gaussian88> are you 100% sure your repos are setup correctly?
[11:29] <gaussian88> that's step 1
[11:29] <TheGateKeeper> gaussian88, defiant  http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/libs/ia32-libs
[11:29] <nweaver916> are you using the volume control in the tray, or like keyboard ones?
[11:29] <defiant> I am never 100% sure of anthing
[11:30] <dehvokahn> evening guys - can anyone explanation why formatting a fresh 160GB HD to Ext2 (used Acronis) would leave it with only 139GB of space?
[11:30] <kohr_> nweaver the headphones have a volume control
[11:30] <jbroome> dehvokahn: old bios maybe?
[11:30] <fla> it's the roudning.
[11:30] <kohr_> nweaver i am testing to see if any volume controls work
[11:30] <fla> my 100gb device is a 93gb device after formatting.
[11:30] <TheGateKeeper> I don't know if the devs have removed it in latter releases
[11:30] <jbroome> fla: 20 gb worth of rounding?
[11:30] <dehvokahn> jbroome, shouldn't be....it's a brand-spanking new drive
[11:30] <davey_> how do I set up a network bridge
[11:30] <nweaver916> like an analog pots dial on the headphone, or a USB headphones that s/w change?
[11:30] <fla> jbroome: could be.
[11:30] <LjL> dehvokahn: because 1) the size as given by the manufacturer might be expressed in decimal multiples while what you see is in binary multiples  2) the filesystem itself needs some space to store the metadata
[11:30] <jbroome> dehvokahn: bios on the computer, not the drive
[11:31] <LjL> likely number 2
[11:31] <arte_> soab
[11:31] <dehvokahn> fla, i figured i'd lose about 11 GB from rounding
[11:31] <fla> jbroome: my 100gb is a 93gb, my 30gb ipod is a 27gb.
[11:31] <stefg> dehvokahn: GiB != GB, and on ext*-systems there's always 5% resxerved for root, unlees you sudo tune2fs -m0
[11:31] <defiant> gatekeeper: that downloaded a corrupt file
[11:31] <fla> and there's a 5% rule for root
[11:31] <TheGateKeeper> !info ia32-libs
[11:31] <ubotu> Package ia32-libs does not exist in any distro I know
[11:31] <fla> so i'd say it's the rounding.
[11:31] <defiant> ok then why is that tutorial asing for it
[11:31] <emun> help, before i quit using ubuntu, i have a problem with sudoers , getting errors , cannot get into root, tried to edit /etc/sudoers no luck , just messed up my suse on the other partition
[11:31] <jbroome> perhaps a fdisk -l would show where the space is being used
[11:32] <dehvokahn> wow, i didn't figure i'd lose that much to rounding....but that makes sense
[11:32] <dehvokahn> thanks guys!
[11:32] <apokryphos> emun: you really shouldn't be mucking around with the sudoers file
[11:32] <fla> okay, my creative soundblaster isn't recognised by ubuntu, cat proc/sound/cards doesn't show the device, only my tv card. alsa also doesn't recognize my soundcard. my new install is a fresh install, the old worked fine, with sound. please have a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=326432 ;)
[11:32] <fla> *spam*
[11:32] <fla>  :/
[11:32] <kohr_> nweaver its usb, there are buttons that say + and -, i am not sure how exactly they change the sound, but when i change it , the volume on ubuntu goes downs, (you know the window that pops up with the sound? that works)
[11:32] <TheGateKeeper> defiant, what downloaded what corrupt file?
[11:32] <emun> i was told to edit it to solve the problem
[11:33] <defiant> the link you showed me had a cunch of mirrors that downloaded a corrutpt file
[11:33] <nweaver916> it changes the sound, but not the headphone sound?
[11:33] <kohr_> nweaver916, yes
[11:33] <nweaver916> there is an option to change which volume control is changed by those (somewhere in gnome config)
[11:33] <stefg> fla :  someone might have decided to drop the support for your card in the new kernel
[11:33] <nweaver916> it's set to master control, and not headphone control
[11:33] <defiant> I guess I will have to go back to Windows Xp
[11:33] <kohr_> nweaver916, the keyboard and muting it on ubuntu seem to do nothing also
[11:34] <signalvsnoise> y'know, gcrontab is a piece of crap.
[11:34] <lynucs> .
[11:34] <fla> stefg: no, i don't think so. i installed the same from the same ubuntu cd as before. this is _not_ possible.
[11:34] <kohr_> nweaver916, so it would be in alsamixrt
[11:34] <kohr_> nweaver916, so it would be in alsamixrt
[11:34] <kohr_> nweaver916, so it would be in alsamixer
[11:34] <kohr_> sorry
[11:34] <defiant> Which sucks
[11:34] <signalvsnoise> its clearly time for an fltk replacement.
[11:34] <fnord_> defiant, quiting that easy?
[11:34] <up365> fla: Have you tried working thru the sticky-Comprehensive Sound Problem Solutions Guide on Ubuntu forums, it worked fro my SB Live
[11:34] <TheGateKeeper> defiant, that link was to breezy, I would imagine you are using dapper or edgy, I don't know if that lib is stil in the repos or if the devs have removed it
[11:34] <nweaver916> no, I think it's in gnome control stuff, iirc
[11:34] <defiant> two days for one problem is not easy
[11:34] <stefg> Fla , oh this is a *re-install*, not an upgrade, right?
[11:34] <nweaver916> I had to change it for my laptop
[11:34] <fla> up365: no, url please.
[11:34] <TheGateKeeper> still*
[11:34] <nweaver916> think it's "keyboard" type shortcuts in gnome config
[11:34] <fla> stefg: yes it is. completely formatted and so on.
[11:34] <defiant> I am running Kubuntu
[11:35] <emun> apokryphos, this is the error in terminal   ,,, sudoersfile: syntax error
[11:35] <up365> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[11:35] <kohr_> nweaver916, could i use both?
[11:35] <fnord_> defiant, linux isnt easy,it takes a while to learn,but its fun.
[11:35] <TheGateKeeper> defiant, so what is your problem?
[11:35] <fla> up365: ty
[11:35] <defiant> Installing FF 32bit with Flash.
[11:35] <gaussian88> TheGateKeeper: he's on a 64bit system
[11:35] <defiant> Wine will not install and neither will that
[11:36] <nweaver916> I'm not sure. Like I said, I changed it on my laptop so the control panel modified the speakers, and the buttons modified the headphone
[11:36] <Nergar> hey now!
[11:36] <fnord_> can some one help me troubleshoot my installation of openchrome dirvers on edgy?
[11:36] <defiant> I figured I would install wine and it would be easier
[11:36] <Nergar> happy holidays!
[11:36] <TheGateKeeper> defiant, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava  <-- you seen this?
[11:36] <defiant> well that was a joke too
[11:36] <nweaver916> I think you could make keyboard master, and headphones modify headphone, but not if they use the same keyboard shortcuts
[11:36] <defiant> Yes I have
[11:36] <TheGateKeeper> gaussian88, I got that :-)
[11:36] <defiant> the first step does not work
[11:36] <up365> fla: np good luck
[11:36] <kohr_> nweaver916 where are these settings? gnome-sound-properites?
[11:37] <stefg> Fla, : hmmm... strange. But i found by experience that the installer actually never installs twice in the exacct same way (for whatever reason). Especially on dapper, a couple of identical installs to the identical machine sometimes give different results
[11:37] <defiant> that first file does not exist
[11:37] <LjL> !username
[11:37] <TheGateKeeper> defiant, tried this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:37] <fla> stefg: if up365's link won't work, i'll try debian tomorrow. no excuses.
[11:38] <defiant> TheGateKepper, I have
[11:38] <kohr_> nweaver916 where are these settings? gnome-sound-properites?
[11:39] <haxality> I'm having an odd problem with the adobe flash player, when I go to some websites like metacafe.com it tells me to update it even though it's the latest version
[11:39] <haxality> what should I do?
[11:39] <stefg> Fla... (/whisper mode) good decision.... the stupid bugs in edgy deserve some punishment (lost users)
[11:39] <emun> hi, is there a way to reinstall ubuntu like an update to resolve this stupid sudoers error, just reinstalled suse on another partition without problems , i am begining to get frustrated with ubuntu help somebody please
[11:39] <TheGateKeeper> defiant, the manual method looks very straight forward
[11:40] <drow_> How do I find out which PPD file my printer is using? (CUPS printing system)
[11:40] <nweaver916> gnome-keybinding-properties has some stuff
[11:40] <BackPacker> emun: Boot in rescue mode, edit /etc/sudoers, then reboot in normal mode
[11:40] <snowflake> `What do I have to download in addition to VMware Player?
[11:40] <BackPacker> emun: Before you edited sudoers, you did back it up, didn't you? Or log all of your changes to that file somewhere?
[11:40] <LjL> snowflake: to do what?
[11:41] <snowflake> LjL: to emulate Windows
[11:41] <stefg> snowflake: some VMware images to make actual use of it? :-)
[11:41] <linux_scholar> If I install KDE in Ubuntu, will I be able to restore it to Gnome in the future?
[11:41] <FlimFlamMan> does anyone want to recommend a notebook PC vendor that works well with Ubuntu?
[11:41] <LjL> snowflake: well, you need Windows for starters.
[11:41] <fla> stefg: hehe :) i tried debian today but for no reason, it took more than two hours to format a 90gb device in ext3. this couldn't be right, so i reactivated ubuntu. and now there's "the" soundproblem.
[11:41] <jbroome> FlimFlamMan: lenovo
[11:41] <LjL> snowflake: aside for that, you need to create a VMWare virtual machine. this will help: http://www.easyvmx.com
[11:41] <linux_scholar> FlimFlamMan: Compaq Presario works GREAT  w/ Ubuntu
[11:41] <kohr_> nweaver916 it calls the volume up and volume down key commands
[11:41] <emun> backpacker, i spent the whole night trying to do that no success that, just mucked up my suse
[11:42] <linux_scholar>  If I install KDE in Ubuntu, will I be able to restore it to Gnome in the future?
[11:42] <jbroome> yes
[11:42] <linux_scholar> jbroome: how?
[11:42] <apokryphos> linux_scholar: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[11:42] <BackPacker> emun: Do you want a default sudoers file? You can boot in rescue mode, replace the old one with the default one, then reboot
[11:42] <LjL> linux_scholar: actually, you can just use both and switch at any time.
[11:42] <kohr_> nweaver916 thanks, this is an awesome config place
[11:42] <linux_scholar> LjL: how do I do that?
[11:42] <LjL> linux_scholar: just select the wanted session (Gnome or KDE) when you login, at the "Options" menu
[11:43] <linux_scholar> LjL: ok. I'll try that.\
[11:43] <kohr_> nweaver916 i tried playing some songs, and they come out of the speakers, but i set the gnome-sound-properties to be usb headphones, and the test worked there
[11:43] <No_Hope> is there any 1 in here looking for EXTREMELY cheap web hosting ?
[11:44] <defiant> TheGateKeeper, that did not work either
[11:44] <jbroome> No_Hope: no
[11:44] <haxality> I'm having an odd problem with the adobe flash player, when I go to some websites like metacafe.com it tells me to update it even though it's the latest version
[11:44] <haxality> what should I do?
[11:45] <defiant> now firefox won't even load
[11:45] <Aardwolf> Hi, I just installed packages gcc and g++ with apt-get, and I tried to compile something with g++
[11:45] <emun> backpacker, i tried that but as a newbie , tried to edit sudoers did not work, how do replace file with default
[11:45] <linux_scholar> LjL: All there was on the Options menu @ startup was gnome and terminal.
[11:45] <Aardwolf> However, it gives the following output: http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=26775
[11:45] <No_Hope> www.vibenet-hosting.com
[11:45] <Aardwolf> do I need anything else before I can compile with g++?
[11:45] <stefg> haxality: YOU SHOULD IGNORE THE WARNINGS
[11:45] <BackPacker> emun: I'll put a default copy in a pastebin and give you the URL. Wait here while I get that done, then I'll tell you what to do with it...
[11:45] <stefg> oops... caps now off again
[11:45] <ubotu> Please prefix what you're saying with a name to avoid confusion. See !tab
[11:45] <n2diy> haxality: Stop going there?
[11:46] <haxality> ..
[11:46] <haxality> ok
[11:46] <emun> thanks holding on
[11:46] <haxality> my problem, she is solved!
[11:46] <linux_scholar> LjL: All there was on the Options menu @ startup was gnome and terminal.
[11:46] <haxality> :|
[11:46] <davey_> bridging, network, how do I do it
[11:47] <BackPacker> emun: OK, go here for the sudoers file, let me know when you've downloaded it: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39075/
[11:47] <emun> ok
[11:47] <n2diy> linux_scholar: Did you install KDE?
[11:47] <linux_scholar> n2diy: how do i do that?
[11:47] <LjL> !pm | linux_scholar
[11:47] <ubotu> linux_scholar: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[11:47] <LjL> linux_scholar, quite obviously, if you don't *have* KDE, you won't get KDE on that menu.
[11:47] <defiant> Maybe there is something that I am not telling ou guys in order to make this work. Am i missing any information to tel lyou?
[11:47] <LjL> Ubotu, tell linux_scholar about kde | linux_scholar, see the private message from Ubotu
[11:47] <kohr_> when I play music, it goes into the speakers instead of the headphones, how do i change this?
[11:48] <kohr_> !headphones
[11:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about headphones - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:48] <kohr_> !headphone
[11:48] <TheGateKeeper> defiant, you probable need to uninstall the old version before attempting to install the new one
[11:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about headphone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:48] <defiant> I did
[11:48] <linux_scholar> LjL: thank you
[11:48] <n2diy> click on system-admin-synaptic, then search for KDE, mark it for install, and then click the apply button.
[11:48] <defiant> can you see why i am frustrated with this now
[11:48] <defiant> :-)
[11:48] <huff> !gcc
[11:48] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:48] <LjL> !msg the bot > kohr_
[11:48] <ctothej> Hey. I'm trying to troubleshoot why my fglrxinfo gives me libmesa details. can someone tell me how to check the links for libGL.so and libGL.so.1 ?
[11:48] <TheGateKeeper> defiant, linux is like that sometimes :-)
[11:49] <n2diy> linux_scholar, click on system-admin-synaptic, then search for KDE, mark it for install, and then click the apply button.
[11:49] <defiant> do u know of anything I can try?
[11:49] <defiant> other than those things that did not work  :-)
[11:49] <emun> ok, backpacker i have it
[11:49] <defiant> I mean maybe I am missing something small that I have been missing for two days
[11:50] <kohr_> anyone want to help me with headphones ?
[11:50] <huffy> !fedora
[11:50] <ubotu> Other !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)
[11:50] <kohr_> USB headphones
[11:50] <cwatson> !top
[11:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about top - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:50] <TheGateKeeper> defiant, not really beyond the wiki, I suppose you could install a 32bit version of your OS and use that untill you are a bit more familiar with linux
[11:50] <joel> Could someone point me to tutorials for absolute computer beginners?
[11:50] <jbroome> google.com
[11:50] <trilingualkid> LjL: I was seeing what you and linux scholar were talking about kde. after kde is installed, can i just log on with kde in the options menu?
[11:50] <lynucs> anyone has clue of converting .mov files into avi?
[11:50] <jbroome> ldp.org
[11:51] <kohr_> !msg the bot > cwatson
[11:51] <daedra> 925 people! soooo busy here
[11:51] <lynucs> just tried mencoder
[11:51] <defiant> Funny you mentioned that, That was the first install which was totally borked
[11:51] <lynucs> got allways an error
[11:51] <gaussian88> TheGateKeeper: Good suggestion
[11:51] <emun> Backpacker, i have the url
[11:51] <LjL> trilingualkid: yes
[11:51] <trilingualkid> LjL: I was seeing what you and linux scholar were talking about kde. after kde is installed, can i just log on with kde in the options menu?
[11:51] <BackPacker> emun: OK, here's a list of instructions to write down. First, reboot in "rescue" mode, or whatever Ubuntu calls it. It's the other boot option on the Grub menu
[11:51] <defiant> my NVIDIA drvers got all screwy
[11:52] <trilingualkid> LjL: how? After clicking on Options......
[11:52] <trilingualkid> do I choose
[11:52] <BackPacker> emun: You'll get to a shell console screen (text only)
[11:52] <trilingualkid> KDE that simply?
[11:52] <LjL> trilingualkid: session / kde
[11:52] <LjL> yes
[11:52] <trilingualkid> LjL: will that change the logon screen look?
[11:52] <trilingualkid> LjL: or just the desktop look?
[11:52] <BackPacker> emun: change directory to wherever you saved the sudoers file: cd /wherever
[11:52] <TheGateKeeper> defiant, I have nvidia but have never bothered to enable hardware acceleration
[11:52] <LjL> trinkolade: no. if you want to use the KDE login manager (KDM) rather than the GNOME one (GDM), you'll have to type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm"
[11:53] <BackPacker> emun: change the permissions on the file with this: chmod 440 sudoers
[11:53] <trilingualkid> LjL: and another thing is - how long does it take to install it? it's been installing for 5 min
[11:53] <BackPacker> emun: change the ownership with this: chown root.root sudoers
[11:53] <kyja> please help me !!!
[11:53] <defiant> ok well maybe this other problem will be easier to solve.
[11:53] <defiant> My screen moves in a weird manner
[11:54] <defiant> it does not scroll smoothly
[11:54] <BackPacker> emun: copy it into the /etc directory: cp -f sudoers /etc
[11:54] <LjL> trinkolade: also, if you just want to try KDE out, and you think you'll remove it later, i suggest that you use aptitude rather than apt-get to install it. otherwise, if you're on Dapper, you won't be able to easily remove it, and even on Edgy, i found the autoremoval feature a bit weird
[11:54] <TheGateKeeper> defiant, some distro's will install all the nvidia stuff for you, Mandriva, & dare I say Sabayon
[11:54] <LjL> trilingualkid, that depends on your computer. has it finished downloading it yet?
[11:54] <stefg> TheGateKeeper: "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx enable"  is very hard to type... i understand you :-)
[11:54] <BackPacker> emun: At this point, you should be able to reboot and sudo should work as it did before.
[11:54] <BackPacker> emun: [End of instructions] 
[11:54] <trilingualkid> LjL: still not.
[11:55] <LjL> trilingualkid: it sure is big, and i don't know of many computers that will take shorter than 5 minutes to install it
[11:55] <LjL> especially if you consider download time.
[11:55] <defiant> stefg was that a sarcastic respone
[11:55] <trilingualkid> LjL: well, it's at Get:27 stage now
[11:55] <kyja> I have a dual core p4 and and an install changed the kernel. now my system gets overloaded with one cpu report
[11:55] <kyja> please help
[11:55] <achandra> Does anyone know if the PPC version of ubuntu can be set up to do network based installs over TFTP and DHCP??
[11:55] <trilingualkid> LjL: how many stages are there?
[11:55] <LjL> trilingualkid: well, if it's still downloading, i suggest that you stop the download (as long as it's just downloading, it's safe) and do it again with aptitude, if you didn't
[11:55] <LjL> trilingualkid, i don't know what you're talking about.
[11:56] <LjL> trilingualkid: before you pressed "Y", it listed the packages it was going to download, and the total size in bytes.
[11:56] <TheGateKeeper> stefg, never tried it, lots of people seem to have a lot of agro, & I can't be bothered with the potential agro, having said that I am now running gentoo, so that is just me lol
[11:56] <defiant> funny even running that sarcastic post it still did not work
[11:56] <LjL> and it should be giving you an estimated time to completion (of the download) on the right.
[11:57] <stefg> TheGateKeeper: so have fun with figuring $CFLAGS out :-)
[11:57] <flyinghippo> Is there a way to reconfigure X11?
[11:57] <flyinghippo> I kind of messed up some of the settings.
[11:57] <stefg> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:57] <defiant> well, thanks for the help TheGateKeeper, I will be forced to go back to windows
[11:57] <snowflake> How do I find out how much RAM my computer has, please?
[11:57] <`rich> snowflake, free -n
[11:57] <TheGateKeeper> stefg, got it sorted, tclock in enlightenment is however driving me nuts lol
[11:58] <Theodor> Hey there, anyone available to help me install Ubuntu ?
[11:58] <`rich> Theodor, are you having a specific problem?
[11:58] <n2diy> snowflake: type top in a terminal.
[11:58] <Theodor> `rich, I'm affraid so.
[11:58] <emun> thanks backpacker i will try it i hope i do not muck stuff again
[11:58] <`rich> Theodor, tell us about it :)
[11:58] <TheGateKeeper> defiant, if that's what you want to do, there fair enough, but there are other alternatives
[11:59] <BackPacker> emun: I'll be here for a while if you want to try it. Come back if there are any problems
[11:59] <Theodor> Each time I try to install it, it gives an error and the pixels on the screen goes extra white and black.
[11:59] <defiant> TheGateKeeper, as in?
[11:59] <gaussian88> snowflake: fyi: http://virtualthreads.blogspot.com/2006/02/understanding-memory-usage-on-linux.html
[11:59] <`rich> Theodor, what's the error?
[11:59] <Theodor> I just downloaded the DVD version of Ubuntu, and I did burn it on a dvd.
[11:59] <defiant> I tried FC6, did not install properly, I tried Ubuntu, did not work, now Kubuntu and more issues
[11:59] <TheGateKeeper> defiant, http://za1012001.googlepages.com/
[11:59] <BackPacker> emun: Just make sure you type the commands exactly as I showed you them
[11:59] <Theodor> It first says that the kernel is 100% loaded, and then there is a file that process, but I couldn't catch the name.
[12:00] <gaussian88> snowflake: I put the link just for some info on how LInux uses RAM, not for the usage of the ps command
[12:00] <Theodor> Hold on, let me see if I can catch it ... I have to restart the computer each time it goes booom.
[12:00] <gaussian88> snowflake: I always hear people saying "linux uses so much RAM"
[12:00] <trilingualkid> LjL: how do I cancel it?
[12:00] <LjL> trilingualkid: ctrl-c
[12:00] <LjL> trilingualkid: *only* if it's still just downloading
[12:00] <n2diy> defiant, how old is your machine?