=== yuriy [n=yuriy@209-94-138-57.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== pascalFR [i=7dHGmkmB@cha92-7-82-230-174-61.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@d51A4F66C.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== kwwii [n=kwwii@p54955F5C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.64.118] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== el [n=konversa@89.22.98.137] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== yuriy [n=yuriy@209-94-138-57.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== el [n=konversa@89.22.98.137] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== ctothej [n=offero@ool-44c05172.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== jack_wyt [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== jack_wyt [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== jack_wyt [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== firephoto [n=tom@pool-71-115-214-25.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== apokryphos [n=francis@84.13.229.243] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-57-69.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121g89.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== neoncode [n=neoncode@89.240.204.171] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== jsgotangco [n=greatwhi@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== lotusleaf [n=lotuslea@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== jack_wyt [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== jack_wyt [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== claydoh_ [n=claydoh@66-252-58-42.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== poningru [n=poningru@pool-71-251-119-157.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== jsg123 [n=greatwhi@121.97.210.71] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== UbuntuSt1ts [n=StatsBot@bl4-221-241.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== freet15 [n=freet15@61.49.220.49] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== Jucato [n=jucato@210.5.114.160] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-024-154.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.51.245] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== Jucato [n=jucato@210.5.114.160] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== poningru [n=poningru@pool-71-251-119-157.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== robotgeek [i=venkat@digital.celebris.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== freet15 [n=freet15@61.49.220.49] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== Jucato [n=jucato@124.106.181.205] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has left #kubuntu-devel [] | ||
=== serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== freet15 [n=freet15@61.49.220.49] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== Hobbsee pokes Riddell | ||
Hobbsee | Riddell: you around, or on holidays? | 10:01 |
---|---|---|
Riddell | hi Hobbsee | 10:02 |
Riddell | both | 10:02 |
Hobbsee | yay, you are here :) | 10:02 |
Hobbsee | ah | 10:02 |
Hobbsee | so you'd probably prefer not to think about what i was going to ask you | 10:02 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: FYI: [20:03] <praetor> Hobbsee: i've almost finished the C++ part of the upgrader | 10:03 |
Riddell | yeah, just found a /msg from him | 10:04 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: i'm assuming that you hadnt started it | 10:04 |
Hobbsee | ah :) | 10:04 |
Riddell | no, I havn't | 10:04 |
Hobbsee | when are you officially back? | 10:04 |
Riddell | 3rd | 10:04 |
=== freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@static-ip-220-86-134-202.rev.dyxnet.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
Hobbsee | Riddell: OK. in case you were wondering, i want to know about the feasibility of putting the big kde packages into bzr somehow, so that we can commit little fixes to them, instead of fixing a whole lot every once in a while, then finding a sponsor. | 10:05 |
Riddell | Hobbsee: I'm not convinced that would be any less hassle | 10:06 |
Riddell | at least until no-more-source-packages happens | 10:06 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: hmmm, OK. | 10:06 |
Riddell | I already have a copy in debian's SVN | 10:06 |
Riddell | and it's a hassle to keep it up to date | 10:06 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: i guess with imbrandon here it's easier to get things uploaded, for those of us without upload privs | 10:06 |
Riddell | we do kubuntu-default-settings that way, and it's not uncommon for it to get out of sync | 10:07 |
=== freet15 [n=freet15@61.49.220.49] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
Hobbsee | true | 10:08 |
=== freeflying__ [n=freeflyi@static-ip-220-86-134-202.rev.dyxnet.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== freet15 [n=freet15@61.49.220.49] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== ubijtsa2 [i=ubijtsa@nat/redhat/x-6e4419b34ab96543] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== ubijtsa2 [i=ubijtsa@nat/redhat/x-a578c7eee34b0583] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== ubijtsa2 [i=ubijtsa@nat/redhat/x-3e9ea631970b60cd] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== ubijtsa2 [i=ubijtsa@nat/redhat/x-61d004dc832423f8] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== jpetso [n=jpetso@v213-022.vps.tuwien.ac.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== jack_wyt [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
fdoving | Riddell: if anything gets out of sync it's because those who work with the packages don't sync it with the main bzr repo. I think having bzr/svn repos of debian/ dirs atleast, is a very good idea. | 11:15 |
fdoving | i prefer getting the upstream source with debian/rules, for example, 'debian/rules get-orig-source', watchfiles and all. | 11:21 |
Riddell | fdoving: you can't do that with mainline KDE, the source packages are kept hidden for a week before release | 11:31 |
fdoving | well, you can modify the debian/rules to 'cp /tmp/hidden/ ../tarballs' or something. | 11:32 |
Riddell | what would be the point in that? | 11:33 |
fdoving | it would be very handly later, after the release when things need to change. | 11:33 |
fdoving | debian does this with some of their debian/ dirs, i think it seems logical. | 11:36 |
Riddell | .orig files don't change | 11:37 |
fdoving | exactly. | 11:37 |
fdoving | that's why we don't want them in the svn/bzr repo. | 11:37 |
fdoving | we want a rules target to fetch it from upstream, when needed. | 11:38 |
Riddell | or you can use apt-get source | 11:41 |
fdoving | I can, actually 'dpatch-get-origtargz' does that, if it provides the correct orig.tar.gz it is used, if not, it's fetched from upstream with the info in debian/watch | 11:42 |
=== kwwii [n=kwwii@p5495736C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
Jucato | moin kwwii! :) | 11:42 |
kwwii | moin Jucato | 11:44 |
Jucato | Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! :D | 11:44 |
kwwii | thanks :-) | 11:44 |
kwwii | the first one was successful, now for the second one :-) | 11:45 |
fdoving | Riddell: If I have a working debian/watch, I can simply do 'dch -v newversion; debian/rules get-orig-source; svn-buildpackage', svn-buildpackage unpacks the tarball, and does it all. You can also use bzr-builddeb if you have a bzr repo. | 11:45 |
fdoving | Riddell: that's when a new version of something is released. I don't have to browse to the projects webpage, find the link to the upstream tar.gz, download, rename, and all. | 11:46 |
fdoving | for kde it might not be that handy, because they keep it hidden.. | 11:47 |
fdoving | but things do change in the packages after KDE release too. | 11:48 |
=== Zerlinna [n=Zerlinna@161-122.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== rideout is back. | ||
fdoving | I'll go make waffles. bye. | 12:05 |
=== raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@d51A4F66C.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== rideout [n=rideout@71-215-81-103.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== jack_at_home [n=jack@221.223.21.148] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== jack_at_home [n=jack@221.223.21.148] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== Jucato_ [n=jucato@124.106.181.205] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has left #kubuntu-devel [] | ||
=== serzholino [n=serzh@fw.zaporizhstal.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== guglielf [n=guglielf@unaffiliated/guglielf] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@d51A4F66C.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== morn|off [n=mornfall@62.40.79.65] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== jikanter [n=jordan@c-24-12-220-77.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== toma [n=toma@84-53-90-221.wxdsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.59.135] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== jjesse [n=jjesse@c-71-205-122-203.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== jjesse [n=jjesse@c-71-205-122-203.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== nuku_ [n=j@unaffiliated/nuku] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== luis_lopez [n=jabba@ip216-239-77-232.vif.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== pinheiro [n=pinheiro@bl4-219-141.dsl.telepac.pt] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] | ||
=== pinheiro [n=pinheiro@bl4-219-141.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== toma [n=toma@84-53-90-221.wxdsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== ajmitch [n=ajmitch@port166-123.ubs.maxnet.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== toma [n=toma@84-53-90-221.wxdsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-129-194.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
bddebian | Heya | 05:26 |
fdoving | hi. | 05:26 |
bddebian | Hello fdoving | 05:27 |
fdoving | so, you've finished christmas too? :) | 05:27 |
bddebian | Yeah, two days ago :'-( :) | 05:27 |
=== Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@d51A4F66C.access.telenet.be] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] | ||
=== luis_lopez [n=jabba@ip216-239-77-232.vif.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
kwwii | mhb: ping? | 06:19 |
pinheiro | yea | 06:19 |
pinheiro | exactly | 06:19 |
pinheiro | :) | 06:19 |
kwwii | mhb: can you point me to the webpage comparison you did for oxygen? | 06:21 |
kwwii | Riddell: ping? | 06:23 |
pinheiro | the page is down | 06:25 |
pinheiro | i just checked it | 06:25 |
pinheiro | aparently i had it bookmarked | 06:25 |
kwwii | ouch | 06:26 |
=== toma is now known as toma_ | ||
kwwii | Riddell: when you have time, I would like to discuss the naming stuff | 06:59 |
=== yuriy [n=yuriy@209-94-138-57.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== abattoir_ [n=abattoir@59.92.50.119] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@p548CA051.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
Riddell | kwwii: I'm free | 07:20 |
Riddell | pinheiro: it's moved to a new page | 07:20 |
kwwii | Riddell: can you send me the file you started? I want to start a spreadsheet with that info and other stuff | 07:21 |
=== n8k99 [n=nathan@dsl254-078-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
kwwii | Riddell: I am starting wikipages for oxygen | 07:22 |
kwwii | and some info would be nice, so putting everything in a spreadsheet seems like a nice start | 07:22 |
Riddell | http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/icon-spec/standard-names | 07:23 |
Riddell | <standard-name> <kde3-name> <status> | 07:23 |
Riddell | NEW is new use for an icon | 07:23 |
Riddell | NONE is doesn't exist at all in kde 3 | 07:23 |
Riddell | I was planning on starting to work it all out tomorrow | 07:24 |
kwwii | cool, I'll be around for any help :-) | 07:26 |
=== toma_ is now known as toma | ||
kwwii | Riddell: mainly, I want to start a wikipage with a bit of info first, I thought it might help to look at the content of that file to do so | 07:27 |
=== ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121g89.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== tvo [n=tobi@5354FEE3.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
n8k99 | kwwii: are you doing the kubuntu artwork for feisty? | 07:33 |
kwwii | n8k99: not sure yet, but I'll help in any case ;-) | 07:38 |
n8k99 | kwwii: just wondering if you'd be heading up any efforts as I'd like to help contribute to the effort | 07:39 |
Riddell | as often happens we have no idea what's happening | 07:40 |
Riddell | but we can console ourselves that, as far as I know, Ubuntu has even less idea | 07:41 |
kwwii | n8k99: killer, we can use all the help we can get ;-) | 07:41 |
n8k99 | Riddell: did you mean ubuntu or canonical? | 07:42 |
Riddell | n8k99: ubuntu, the 1 CD gnome distro | 07:48 |
n8k99 | Riddell: is that related to Kubuntu the 1 CD KDE distro ;-) | 07:48 |
=== n8k99 [n=nathan@dsl254-078-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] | ||
=== NeoChaosX [n=nael@ppp-71-139-196-156.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== n8k99 [n=nathan@dsl254-078-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
n8k99 | has anyone ever tried making kopete a kpart for kontact? | 07:53 |
mhb | hi all | 07:55 |
kwwii | hi mhb | 07:55 |
=== NeoChaosX [n=nael@ppp-71-139-196-156.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] | ||
mhb | sorry that I missed the ping | 07:55 |
=== neoncode [n=neoncode@89.240.204.171] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
Riddell | mhb: could you give access to your database thing to kwwii and pinheiro | 08:00 |
Riddell | n8k99: I doubt it. when it's been suggested to danimo he's said it wouldn't be very useful | 08:01 |
n8k99 | I see | 08:01 |
mhb | Riddell, kwwii : do you need something urgent from me? | 08:03 |
mhb | Riddell: I see, sure | 08:03 |
kwwii | mhb: was just working on the naming stuff, thought I'd talk to you about it too | 08:04 |
kwwii | nothing pressing | 08:04 |
=== ryanakca [i=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
mhb | Riddell, kwwii: I'll be away for the next few days ( visiting my girlfriend's family ) so if you need anything from me, please tell me | 08:11 |
kwwii | mhb: by the time you get back I will probably have something ;-) | 08:12 |
mhb | kwwii: sure | 08:12 |
kwwii | have a good time | 08:12 |
mhb | kwwii: thanks | 08:12 |
Riddell | mhb will come back grumbling about the in-laws :) | 08:13 |
kwwii | lol | 08:14 |
kwwii | the best way to avoid that, I have found is to invite everyone to your house...so they are all grumbling about you instead | 08:14 |
kwwii | btw. /me just created http://developernew.kde.org/Projects/Oxygen | 08:15 |
Riddell | do I want to read this tango thread on kde-artists? | 08:16 |
kwwii | Riddell: you do if you want a good laugh | 08:18 |
kwwii | I think they were trying to bait us just "little" bit | 08:18 |
Riddell | kwwii: anything decided about the kde 4 widet style? | 08:19 |
Riddell | widget | 08:19 |
kwwii | Riddell: well, we are working on it :-) we are putting everything in playground/artwork/Oxygen for now | 08:20 |
Riddell | anyone on feisty (plus w32codecs installed) around to test something? what happens if you listen to a radio station from the bbc with it set to realplayer? http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/ | 08:20 |
mhb | Riddell: well, when I selected "Open in standalone player" it offered Amarok and then crashed | 08:23 |
=== pinheiro [n=pinheiro@bl4-219-141.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
Riddell | naw, not standalone, embedded, what happens? | 08:25 |
mhb | Riddell: all I see is Settings link and Launch this in standalone player link and BBC logo | 08:27 |
mhb | Riddell: in the popup that appears when I click on the Listen to... | 08:27 |
Riddell | hmm | 08:28 |
Riddell | try settings and tell it reaplayer | 08:28 |
Riddell | realplayer | 08:28 |
=== froud [n=sean@dsl-242-144-250.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
Riddell | froud! | 08:32 |
mhb | Riddell: it works when I select WM | 08:32 |
mhb | Riddell: kmplayer launches | 08:32 |
Riddell | mhb: aye but that's not what I'm wanting to test :) | 08:32 |
froud | Riddell: hey there | 08:32 |
mhb | Riddell: I thought that. With realplayer I get a black screen where the menu should be. | 08:33 |
mhb | Riddell: I may have an outdated system for a few days.Should I upgrade it all first? | 08:34 |
Riddell | no | 08:34 |
mhb | Riddell: by the way, I thought about suggesting a different widget style for Kubuntu Feisty ... Polyester, that is | 08:36 |
mhb | Riddell: I wanted to know if you're totally against it; if not we could add it to the next meeting's agenda | 08:37 |
Riddell | I'm pretty well against it | 08:38 |
Riddell | but feel free to add it | 08:38 |
mhb | Riddell: thanks | 08:41 |
mhb | n8k99: by the way, if you want to discuss Kubuntu artwork, you can join #ubuntu-artwork and we can chat there ... I *love* discussing artwork :o) | 08:43 |
n8k99 | mhb: gr8 | 08:44 |
=== jpetso is now known as jpetso_away | ||
=== pinheiro [n=pinheiro@bl4-219-141.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== Tonio_ [n=tonio@titoph.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
Tonio_ | hi everyone | 09:09 |
mhb | hi Tonio_ | 09:10 |
Tonio_ | sorry or not beeing there at the moment, I'm taking a little break for christmas and new year's day | 09:10 |
mhb | enjoy | 09:10 |
Tonio_ | refreshing my brain and getting new ideas for ubuntu while playing with vista and osx :) | 09:10 |
Tonio_ | 8 days without a linux computer in use, strange feeling for me ^^ | 09:10 |
=== jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
jpatrick | someone tell me what the status on package updates is? | 09:13 |
Riddell | nothing is going to happen until next year | 09:21 |
jpatrick | lovely | 09:21 |
Riddell | what are you interested in? | 09:22 |
jpatrick | updating koverartist | 09:22 |
jpatrick | got a request by email and it fixes bug #62259 | 09:23 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 62259 in koverartist "Missing cd/dvd templates in /usr/share/apps/koverartist/cases" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/62259 | 09:23 |
=== anders__ [n=ubijtsa@karlsson.force9.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
kwwii | Riddell: mind if I post the info you have in that file on http://developernew.kde.org/index.php?title=Projects/Oxygen/namingSpec | 09:26 |
kwwii | ? | 09:26 |
=== yuriy_ [n=yuriy@209-94-138-57.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
Riddell | kwwii: not at all | 09:26 |
Riddell | although the mediawiki format for tables is weird as hell as I remember | 09:26 |
=== raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
jpatrick | hi raphink | 09:29 |
=== toma is now known as toma_ | ||
=== jpetso_away is now known as jpetso | ||
=== yuriy [n=yuriy@209-94-138-57.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
jpetso | kwwii: any specific todo for the previously-mentioned naming spec? | 09:46 |
kwwii | n8k99: once I know what is up, I can answer that more defintely | 09:47 |
kwwii | erm | 09:47 |
kwwii | sorry | 09:47 |
jpetso | yea | 09:47 |
jpetso | ok, thx | 09:47 |
kwwii | jpetso: yeah, we have to make it :-) | 09:47 |
n8k99 | kwwii: what is causing so much confusion? kde4? | 09:48 |
kwwii | we need to figure out what we need and how to extend it | 09:48 |
jpetso | kwwii: is it only for the icons in the Tango spec, or does it also include making up new names for existing icons? | 09:48 |
kwwii | as well as how to change everything in code with script | 09:48 |
kwwii | we will need new names as well | 09:48 |
jpetso | ok | 09:48 |
kwwii | as you can see on that page | 09:48 |
jpetso | kwwii: i meant, new like "we're out to extend the fd.o specification" | 09:49 |
jpetso | kwwii: but i see this is in scope | 09:49 |
kwwii | we will definitely need to extend it | 09:50 |
jpetso | kwwii: i'll start with checking the current entries in the wiki page | 09:50 |
kwwii | cool | 09:52 |
kwwii | we need all the help we can get :-) | 09:52 |
=== tonyyserver [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
kwwii | ubuntu-artwork is soooo useless | 10:03 |
nixternal | heh | 10:03 |
=== Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
nixternal | hiya Hobbsee! | 10:03 |
kwwii | hi Hobbsee! | 10:03 |
nixternal | hiya kwwii! | 10:03 |
kwwii | good morning or whatever | 10:03 |
kwwii | hi nixternal | 10:03 |
kwwii | :-) | 10:03 |
nixternal | we need some groovy graphics for documentation :) | 10:04 |
nixternal | header and footer | 10:04 |
Hobbsee | hey nixternal, kwwii!!! | 10:04 |
Hobbsee | yeah, it's 8am :) | 10:04 |
nixternal | you have until march :) | 10:04 |
kwwii | the best way to accomplish that is to make a detailed idea of what you need and to submit it to the art team | 10:05 |
kwwii | :p | 10:05 |
Hobbsee | hehe | 10:05 |
nixternal | we can do that im sure | 10:05 |
=== Hobbsee has a better way than that | ||
mhb | kwwii: heh | 10:05 |
Hobbsee | say "i want it to look like this", then just attack the people with my Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! until it gets done! | 10:05 |
kwwii | Hobbsee: say "ping kwwi until he does it" and i'll fly to AU just to find you | 10:05 |
=== tonyyserver [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
Hobbsee | kwwii: :P | 10:06 |
mhb | kwwii: useless, you say? :o) | 10:06 |
Hobbsee | kwwii: way cool. could be fun to meet up. | 10:06 |
crimsun | you kubuntu people are scary. | 10:06 |
kwwii | hehe | 10:06 |
Hobbsee | awww, poor crimsun | 10:06 |
n8k99 | crimsun: why are our eyes too close together or sumphin | 10:06 |
nixternal | haha | 10:06 |
crimsun | I think it's the -lack- of eyes and overabundance of pointy sticks. | 10:07 |
Hobbsee | nah. i think the Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! scares crimsun, and that's definetly in kubuntu ownership | 10:07 |
nixternal | crimsun: i wish you would stop living a lie and just come out with it already, you closet kubuntu ser | 10:07 |
nixternal | err s/ser/user | 10:07 |
Hobbsee | who's missing eyes here? | 10:07 |
=== Hobbsee counts...1...2...3...yup, got the required number | ||
crimsun | everyone, thanks to some pointy stick of doom? | 10:07 |
Hobbsee | i dont poke their eyes out.... | 10:08 |
crimsun | nixternal: I already do use it kthx | 10:08 |
nixternal | hehe | 10:08 |
kwwii | if we would have known that you would show up with your damn pointy stick we would have hidden | 10:08 |
=== nixternal wants super loud sound on his laptop already :) | ||
n8k99 | nixternal what do you wnat the header and footer to look like? | 10:08 |
Hobbsee | kwwii: haha. kicked me out of the channel when i was still a lurker, yes? | 10:08 |
n8k99 | s/wnat/want | 10:08 |
=== Hobbsee hugs kwwii instead of attacking with the stick | ||
kwwii | ;-) | 10:09 |
nixternal | n8k99: i have no clue, something new and exciting of course, but i will leave that up to Riddell | 10:09 |
=== Hobbsee hopes kwwii doesnt really mind her stick | ||
kwwii | Hobbsee: just depends where you stick it :p | 10:09 |
nixternal | haha | 10:09 |
Hobbsee | haha | 10:09 |
Hobbsee | where you dont want it to go, of course :P | 10:09 |
nixternal | oh shat, im out of this one | 10:09 |
Hobbsee | oh the possibilities raised by that statement... | 10:09 |
nixternal | kwwii did grow up on the north side :) | 10:10 |
kwwii | now I should say something dirty | 10:10 |
Hobbsee | the north side? | 10:10 |
=== n8k99 giggles uncontrollably | ||
Hobbsee | kwwii: you could. it'll probably hurt though. | 10:10 |
kwwii | I am into some pretty funky stuff | 10:10 |
mhb | kwwii: so who and when will work on kubuntu-artwork-* specs? | 10:10 |
crimsun | nixternal: as opposed to super not-loud sound? | 10:11 |
kwwii | mhb: no idea yet | 10:11 |
kwwii | erm | 10:11 |
kwwii | rather, I have the specs done | 10:11 |
kwwii | but who will do the work is still up in the air | 10:11 |
nixternal | yes crimsun | 10:11 |
mhb | kwwii: you have? | 10:11 |
crimsun | nixternal: I have no idea what that means. | 10:11 |
kwwii | sure, for months | 10:11 |
mhb | kwwii: I mean more than https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/kubuntu-artwork-desktop | 10:11 |
Hobbsee | kwwii: i think we'll leave your private life hidden :P | 10:12 |
mhb | kwwii: some specific guidelines, ideas | 10:12 |
kwwii | hehe | 10:12 |
n8k99 | nixternal: did you recently get that machen? | 10:12 |
kwwii | being married will turn any man into a semi-freak | 10:12 |
mhb | kwwii: specifying what will remain/ what will change | 10:12 |
kwwii | :p | 10:12 |
kwwii | mhb: well, check the specs:-) | 10:12 |
mhb | kwwii: I'm checking the wiki pages | 10:12 |
kwwii | you could add one to use polyester | 10:12 |
mhb | kwwii: I have added that to the meeting agenda | 10:13 |
kwwii | launchpad would be a good place to start | 10:13 |
kwwii | which meeting? | 10:13 |
mhb | next Kubuntu meeting | 10:13 |
Hobbsee | kwwii: oh dear. yes, these women people are terrible, i dont know how you stand us :P | 10:13 |
kwwii | why have I not recieved notice of a meeting? | 10:13 |
mhb | kwwii: because there is not yet a date for it? | 10:13 |
kwwii | hey now, I love my wife | 10:13 |
n8k99 | meeting? | 10:13 |
kwwii | and you can too for 19.95 | 10:13 |
kwwii | mhb: that would be a good reason | 10:14 |
mhb | I've bought that and I love my girlfriend twice as much! I can only recommend kwwii's product! | 10:14 |
kwwii | hehe | 10:14 |
Hobbsee | you cant run a meeting if i'm not there, again :P | 10:14 |
kwwii | no doubt | 10:14 |
kwwii | once a year we should make meeting where Hobbsee can come | 10:14 |
n8k99 | Hobbsee:someone has to bring the pointy stick | 10:15 |
Hobbsee | kwwii: of course you do. but us women are still crazy :P | 10:15 |
kwwii | but not much more than taht :p | 10:15 |
kwwii | lol | 10:15 |
Hobbsee | kwwii: i make it to most of them. just the last one i missed, being suddenly out of the state. (i had about 4 days warning before, and it was too late to change the meeting) | 10:15 |
Hobbsee | hahahhaa | 10:15 |
Hobbsee | n8k99: indeed. | 10:15 |
Hobbsee | who's up for writing the python code to port the upgrader over. | 10:16 |
Hobbsee | ? | 10:16 |
=== tonyyserver [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== n8k99 hears tumbleweeds blowing by | ||
kwwii | wheweweweweeheheheheh | 10:24 |
Hobbsee | hmmm? | 10:24 |
kwwii | and/or the sound of one hand clapping | 10:24 |
kwwii | [22:14] <Hobbsee> who's up for writing the python code to port the upgrader over. | 10:24 |
n8k99 | look Hobbsee you could poke me with the stick but the amount of python I know will get ya squat | 10:25 |
mhb | Hobbsee: usually it's the one who asks the question :o) | 10:25 |
kwwii | lol | 10:26 |
mhb | kwwii: by the way, it might be a good thing for the Kubuntu artwork to move slowly towards KDE4's Oxygen | 10:26 |
kwwii | mhb: don't worry, we have secret plans for that | 10:26 |
mhb | kwwii: good, good .o) | 10:26 |
n8k99 | secret plans! I love secrets! | 10:27 |
kwwii | mhb: the info on the kde wiki is up to date, but we are going to work on it soon | 10:27 |
Hobbsee | mhb: my python's not very good. | 10:27 |
=== Hobbsee hacks away at some python code in the background | ||
Hobbsee | n8k99: hehe, fair enough | 10:28 |
kwwii | once we have that done, we(kubuntu) are/is further than any other dist | 10:28 |
Hobbsee | :) | 10:28 |
kwwii | hehe | 10:28 |
=== toma_ is now known as toma | ||
kwwii | http://developernew.kde.org/Projects/Oxygen/namingSpec | 10:29 |
kwwii | feel free to work on it | 10:29 |
kwwii | really | 10:29 |
mhb | kwwii: KDE4's gonna use emblems? yay! | 10:31 |
kwwii | haha | 10:31 |
kwwii | no | 10:31 |
mhb | aww | 10:31 |
kwwii | that is the f.d.o naming spec | 10:31 |
kwwii | until now kde does not use all of it | 10:32 |
kwwii | although we extend it quite a bit | 10:32 |
mhb | no emblems for KDE4? :( | 10:33 |
mhb | I find them useful. But then, I find a lot of things useful. | 10:34 |
mhb | the Oxygen home folder icon looks kind of like a folder with an emblem | 10:34 |
kwwii | we will have something like emblems but it will be used differently | 10:35 |
kwwii | programatically | 10:35 |
kwwii | function bases | 10:35 |
kwwii | based | 10:35 |
kwwii | file-interaction based | 10:36 |
n8k99 | are there additional functions in katapault beside being a launcher? | 10:39 |
=== n8k99 sorry about the tangent | ||
fdoving | it can add up numbers, i've heard :) | 10:40 |
n8k99 | fdoving: how's that? | 10:41 |
n8k99 | oh I see | 10:41 |
fdoving | there is a catalog for it. | 10:42 |
Hobbsee | n8k99: + music + bookmarks, et | 10:42 |
Hobbsee | c | 10:42 |
fdoving | there is also a spelling thing. | 10:42 |
mhb | I'd love Kontact integration for that :o) | 10:44 |
n8k99 | it'd be great if it could append notes within knotes | 10:44 |
Hobbsee | ooh, yeah :) | 10:44 |
n8k99 | if it did that- I might start using knotes!! | 10:46 |
fdoving | can't be hard to make. | 10:47 |
=== yveslu [n=yves@194.235.200.237] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
apokryphos | knotes? Bah. Basket :D | 10:48 |
Hobbsee | +1 apokryphos. then again, basket can import knotes | 10:49 |
apokryphos | right. It's just nice+easy to throw things into, quick search for my long notes, and doesn't take up my desktop | 10:50 |
n8k99 | right. then you could alt + space append knote > which would end up in basket | 10:50 |
=== yveslu [n=yves@194.235.200.237] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] | ||
jpetso | kwwii: it seems the "edit_add" and "edit_remove" icons have been renamed to just "add" and "remove" in current kdelibs, but after you adding it to Oxygen as "add" vignoni has renamed it to its former name | 10:54 |
jpetso | kwwii: which makes it inconsistent with current kdelibs and also the "remove" icon in Oxygen | 10:54 |
kwwii | jpetso: it might very well be so, although I have not looked at it | 10:55 |
kwwii | I wrote that a few hours ago | 10:55 |
kwwii | so he has not reall looked at it yet | 10:55 |
jpetso | kwwii: no, i mean Oxygen's actions/ SVN should be fixed | 10:55 |
Tonio_ | re | 10:56 |
Tonio_ | hi kwwiin, jpetso | 10:56 |
jpetso | hi Tonio_ | 10:56 |
apokryphos | atm personally I'd get in kickoff and forget katapult :P | 10:56 |
apokryphos | it does sums too :D | 10:56 |
Tonio_ | apokryphos: well I am just packaging it | 10:57 |
Tonio_ | apokryphos: but it is a pure pain to build it | 10:57 |
apokryphos | hm, really? How come? | 10:57 |
Tonio_ | apokryphos: got something forking? | 10:57 |
Tonio_ | apokryphos: well I miss a header file and I am completly unable to find it | 10:57 |
apokryphos | forking? | 10:58 |
kwwii | jpetso: not sure I understand | 10:58 |
kwwii | Tonio_: hey man | 10:58 |
kwwii | Tonio_: merry christmas | 10:58 |
Tonio_ | apokryphos: forking what ? | 10:58 |
kwwii | Tonio_: long time, no see | 10:58 |
kwwii | Tonio_: how are you? | 10:58 |
Tonio_ | kwwii: yeah I took a break for the vacations :) | 10:58 |
apokryphos | Tonio_: "got something forking?" as in, what do you mean there? | 10:58 |
Tonio_ | kwwii: very nice, with my parents in nantes | 10:59 |
kwwii | Tonio_: good for you, I hope it was nice | 10:59 |
Tonio_ | apokryphos: oups sorry, "working" was the good one :) | 10:59 |
Tonio_ | kwwii: it is yes, I'll stay there until 02/01 | 10:59 |
jpetso | kwwii: oh. er. i think i made an error. forget it for now, sorry. | 10:59 |
apokryphos | tm_t had it built some time ago IIRC, but he doesn't seem to be around lately | 10:59 |
jpetso | kwwii: anyways, i wonder why there are no edit_add and edit_remove icons in kdelibs anymore | 11:00 |
jpetso | maybe they were never there and were living in another module | 11:01 |
jpetso | er, scrap that | 11:01 |
Tonio_ | apokryphos: kickoff requires kmenubase.h, which I couldn't find anywhere.... | 11:02 |
kwwii | jpetso: :-) | 11:02 |
kwwii | now you see | 11:02 |
jpetso | kwwii: seems i'm slightly puzzled at the moment because there is a plus icon, but not a related minus icon | 11:03 |
jpetso | kwwii: and the plus icon is named differently in kdelibs and in Oxygen | 11:03 |
kwwii | well, that list is the first of such...so do no expect too much | 11:07 |
kwwii | we still have a long way to go | 11:07 |
mhb | those battery/ac messages in Edgy/Feisty are provided by guidance-power-manager? | 11:11 |
mhb | can we make them translatable? | 11:13 |
=== lotusleaf [n=lotuslea@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== n8k99 [n=nathan@dsl254-078-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] | ||
jpetso | kwwii: i've reviewed the Action icons in the wiki, they should be ok now | 11:43 |
=== praetor [n=praetor@211.27.216.81] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
kwwii | jpetso: what did you change? | 11:47 |
jpetso | kwwii: just a few things, the history is maybe best for the diffs: http://developernew.kde.org/index.php?title=Projects/Oxygen/namingSpec&action=history | 11:47 |
kwwii | cool | 11:48 |
jpetso | kwwii: seems i don't have an account, maybe i should get one | 11:48 |
kwwii | might hellp | 11:48 |
kwwii | help | 11:49 |
kwwii | anyway | 11:49 |
kwwii | time for bed | 11:49 |
kwwii | see you soon I hope | 11:49 |
jpetso | kwwii: sure | 11:50 |
=== Botcheese [n=SoS@cpe-72-181-114-83.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #Kubuntu-Devel | ||
=== Botcheese [n=SoS@cpe-72-181-114-83.houston.res.rr.com] has left #Kubuntu-Devel ["It's] | ||
=== raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
=== jikanter [n=jordan@dhcp-225-26.eastdorm.uic.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!