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[10:02] hi Hobbsee [10:02] both [10:02] yay, you are here :) [10:02] ah [10:02] so you'd probably prefer not to think about what i was going to ask you [10:03] Riddell: FYI: [20:03] Hobbsee: i've almost finished the C++ part of the upgrader [10:04] yeah, just found a /msg from him [10:04] Riddell: i'm assuming that you hadnt started it [10:04] ah :) [10:04] no, I havn't [10:04] when are you officially back? [10:04] 3rd === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@static-ip-220-86-134-202.rev.dyxnet.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:05] Riddell: OK. in case you were wondering, i want to know about the feasibility of putting the big kde packages into bzr somehow, so that we can commit little fixes to them, instead of fixing a whole lot every once in a while, then finding a sponsor. [10:06] Hobbsee: I'm not convinced that would be any less hassle [10:06] at least until no-more-source-packages happens [10:06] Riddell: hmmm, OK. [10:06] I already have a copy in debian's SVN [10:06] and it's a hassle to keep it up to date [10:06] Riddell: i guess with imbrandon here it's easier to get things uploaded, for those of us without upload privs [10:07] we do kubuntu-default-settings that way, and it's not uncommon for it to get out of sync === freet15 [n=freet15@61.49.220.49] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:08] true === freeflying__ [n=freeflyi@static-ip-220-86-134-202.rev.dyxnet.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freet15 [n=freet15@61.49.220.49] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ubijtsa2 [i=ubijtsa@nat/redhat/x-6e4419b34ab96543] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ubijtsa2 [i=ubijtsa@nat/redhat/x-a578c7eee34b0583] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ubijtsa2 [i=ubijtsa@nat/redhat/x-3e9ea631970b60cd] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ubijtsa2 [i=ubijtsa@nat/redhat/x-61d004dc832423f8] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso [n=jpetso@v213-022.vps.tuwien.ac.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:15] Riddell: if anything gets out of sync it's because those who work with the packages don't sync it with the main bzr repo. I think having bzr/svn repos of debian/ dirs atleast, is a very good idea. [11:21] i prefer getting the upstream source with debian/rules, for example, 'debian/rules get-orig-source', watchfiles and all. [11:31] fdoving: you can't do that with mainline KDE, the source packages are kept hidden for a week before release [11:32] well, you can modify the debian/rules to 'cp /tmp/hidden/ ../tarballs' or something. [11:33] what would be the point in that? [11:33] it would be very handly later, after the release when things need to change. [11:36] debian does this with some of their debian/ dirs, i think it seems logical. [11:37] .orig files don't change [11:37] exactly. [11:37] that's why we don't want them in the svn/bzr repo. [11:38] we want a rules target to fetch it from upstream, when needed. [11:41] or you can use apt-get source [11:42] I can, actually 'dpatch-get-origtargz' does that, if it provides the correct orig.tar.gz it is used, if not, it's fetched from upstream with the info in debian/watch === kwwii [n=kwwii@p5495736C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:42] moin kwwii! :) [11:44] moin Jucato [11:44] Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! :D [11:44] thanks :-) [11:45] the first one was successful, now for the second one :-) [11:45] Riddell: If I have a working debian/watch, I can simply do 'dch -v newversion; debian/rules get-orig-source; svn-buildpackage', svn-buildpackage unpacks the tarball, and does it all. You can also use bzr-builddeb if you have a bzr repo. [11:46] Riddell: that's when a new version of something is released. I don't have to browse to the projects webpage, find the link to the upstream tar.gz, download, rename, and all. [11:47] for kde it might not be that handy, because they keep it hidden.. [11:48] but things do change in the packages after KDE release too. === Zerlinna [n=Zerlinna@161-122.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rideout is back. 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[05:27] Hello fdoving [05:27] so, you've finished christmas too? :) [05:27] Yeah, two days ago :'-( :) === Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@d51A4F66C.access.telenet.be] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === luis_lopez [n=jabba@ip216-239-77-232.vif.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:19] mhb: ping? [06:19] yea [06:19] exactly [06:19] :) [06:21] mhb: can you point me to the webpage comparison you did for oxygen? [06:23] Riddell: ping? [06:25] the page is down [06:25] i just checked it [06:25] aparently i had it bookmarked [06:26] ouch === toma is now known as toma_ [06:59] Riddell: when you have time, I would like to discuss the naming stuff === yuriy [n=yuriy@209-94-138-57.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir_ [n=abattoir@59.92.50.119] has joined #kubuntu-devel === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@p548CA051.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:20] kwwii: I'm free [07:20] pinheiro: it's moved to a new page [07:21] Riddell: can you send me the file you started? I want to start a spreadsheet with that info and other stuff === n8k99 [n=nathan@dsl254-078-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:22] Riddell: I am starting wikipages for oxygen [07:22] and some info would be nice, so putting everything in a spreadsheet seems like a nice start [07:23] http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/icon-spec/standard-names [07:23]

[07:23] NEW is new use for an icon [07:23] NONE is doesn't exist at all in kde 3 [07:24] I was planning on starting to work it all out tomorrow [07:26] cool, I'll be around for any help :-) === toma_ is now known as toma [07:27] Riddell: mainly, I want to start a wikipage with a bit of info first, I thought it might help to look at the content of that file to do so === ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121g89.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tvo [n=tobi@5354FEE3.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:33] kwwii: are you doing the kubuntu artwork for feisty? [07:38] n8k99: not sure yet, but I'll help in any case ;-) [07:39] kwwii: just wondering if you'd be heading up any efforts as I'd like to help contribute to the effort [07:40] as often happens we have no idea what's happening [07:41] but we can console ourselves that, as far as I know, Ubuntu has even less idea [07:41] n8k99: killer, we can use all the help we can get ;-) [07:42] Riddell: did you mean ubuntu or canonical? [07:48] n8k99: ubuntu, the 1 CD gnome distro [07:48] Riddell: is that related to Kubuntu the 1 CD KDE distro ;-) === n8k99 [n=nathan@dsl254-078-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] === NeoChaosX [n=nael@ppp-71-139-196-156.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === n8k99 [n=nathan@dsl254-078-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:53] has anyone ever tried making kopete a kpart for kontact? [07:55] hi all [07:55] hi mhb === NeoChaosX [n=nael@ppp-71-139-196-156.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] [07:55] sorry that I missed the ping === neoncode [n=neoncode@89.240.204.171] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:00] mhb: could you give access to your database thing to kwwii and pinheiro [08:01] n8k99: I doubt it. when it's been suggested to danimo he's said it wouldn't be very useful [08:01] I see [08:03] Riddell, kwwii : do you need something urgent from me? [08:03] Riddell: I see, sure [08:04] mhb: was just working on the naming stuff, thought I'd talk to you about it too [08:04] nothing pressing === ryanakca [i=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:11] Riddell, kwwii: I'll be away for the next few days ( visiting my girlfriend's family ) so if you need anything from me, please tell me [08:12] mhb: by the time you get back I will probably have something ;-) [08:12] kwwii: sure [08:12] have a good time [08:12] kwwii: thanks [08:13] mhb will come back grumbling about the in-laws :) [08:14] lol [08:14] the best way to avoid that, I have found is to invite everyone to your house...so they are all grumbling about you instead [08:15] btw. /me just created http://developernew.kde.org/Projects/Oxygen [08:16] do I want to read this tango thread on kde-artists? [08:18] Riddell: you do if you want a good laugh [08:18] I think they were trying to bait us just "little" bit [08:19] kwwii: anything decided about the kde 4 widet style? [08:19] widget [08:20] Riddell: well, we are working on it :-) we are putting everything in playground/artwork/Oxygen for now [08:20] anyone on feisty (plus w32codecs installed) around to test something? what happens if you listen to a radio station from the bbc with it set to realplayer? http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/ [08:23] Riddell: well, when I selected "Open in standalone player" it offered Amarok and then crashed === pinheiro [n=pinheiro@bl4-219-141.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:25] naw, not standalone, embedded, what happens? [08:27] Riddell: all I see is Settings link and Launch this in standalone player link and BBC logo [08:27] Riddell: in the popup that appears when I click on the Listen to... [08:28] hmm [08:28] try settings and tell it reaplayer [08:28] realplayer === froud [n=sean@dsl-242-144-250.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:32] froud! [08:32] Riddell: it works when I select WM [08:32] Riddell: kmplayer launches [08:32] mhb: aye but that's not what I'm wanting to test :) [08:32] Riddell: hey there [08:33] Riddell: I thought that. With realplayer I get a black screen where the menu should be. [08:34] Riddell: I may have an outdated system for a few days.Should I upgrade it all first? [08:34] no [08:36] Riddell: by the way, I thought about suggesting a different widget style for Kubuntu Feisty ... Polyester, that is [08:37] Riddell: I wanted to know if you're totally against it; if not we could add it to the next meeting's agenda [08:38] I'm pretty well against it [08:38] but feel free to add it [08:41] Riddell: thanks [08:43] n8k99: by the way, if you want to discuss Kubuntu artwork, you can join #ubuntu-artwork and we can chat there ... I *love* discussing artwork :o) [08:44] mhb: gr8 === jpetso is now known as jpetso_away === pinheiro [n=pinheiro@bl4-219-141.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@titoph.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:09] hi everyone [09:10] hi Tonio_ [09:10] sorry or not beeing there at the moment, I'm taking a little break for christmas and new year's day [09:10] enjoy [09:10] refreshing my brain and getting new ideas for ubuntu while playing with vista and osx :) [09:10] 8 days without a linux computer in use, strange feeling for me ^^ === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:13] someone tell me what the status on package updates is? [09:21] nothing is going to happen until next year [09:21] lovely [09:22] what are you interested in? [09:22] updating koverartist [09:23] got a request by email and it fixes bug #62259 [09:23] Malone bug 62259 in koverartist "Missing cd/dvd templates in /usr/share/apps/koverartist/cases" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/62259 === anders__ [n=ubijtsa@karlsson.force9.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:26] Riddell: mind if I post the info you have in that file on http://developernew.kde.org/index.php?title=Projects/Oxygen/namingSpec [09:26] ? === yuriy_ [n=yuriy@209-94-138-57.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:26] kwwii: not at all [09:26] although the mediawiki format for tables is weird as hell as I remember === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:29] hi raphink === toma is now known as toma_ === jpetso_away is now known as jpetso === yuriy [n=yuriy@209-94-138-57.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:46] kwwii: any specific todo for the previously-mentioned naming spec? [09:47] n8k99: once I know what is up, I can answer that more defintely [09:47] erm [09:47] sorry [09:47] yea [09:47] ok, thx [09:47] jpetso: yeah, we have to make it :-) [09:48] kwwii: what is causing so much confusion? kde4? [09:48] we need to figure out what we need and how to extend it [09:48] kwwii: is it only for the icons in the Tango spec, or does it also include making up new names for existing icons? [09:48] as well as how to change everything in code with script [09:48] we will need new names as well [09:48] ok [09:48] as you can see on that page [09:49] kwwii: i meant, new like "we're out to extend the fd.o specification" [09:49] kwwii: but i see this is in scope [09:50] we will definitely need to extend it [09:50] kwwii: i'll start with checking the current entries in the wiki page [09:52] cool [09:52] we need all the help we can get :-) === tonyyserver [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:03] ubuntu-artwork is soooo useless [10:03] heh === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:03] hiya Hobbsee! [10:03] hi Hobbsee! [10:03] hiya kwwii! [10:03] good morning or whatever [10:03] hi nixternal [10:03] :-) [10:04] we need some groovy graphics for documentation :) [10:04] header and footer [10:04] hey nixternal, kwwii!!! [10:04] yeah, it's 8am :) [10:04] you have until march :) [10:05] the best way to accomplish that is to make a detailed idea of what you need and to submit it to the art team [10:05] :p [10:05] hehe [10:05] we can do that im sure === Hobbsee has a better way than that [10:05] kwwii: heh [10:05] say "i want it to look like this", then just attack the people with my Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! until it gets done! [10:05] Hobbsee: say "ping kwwi until he does it" and i'll fly to AU just to find you === tonyyserver [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:06] kwwii: :P [10:06] kwwii: useless, you say? :o) [10:06] kwwii: way cool. could be fun to meet up. [10:06] you kubuntu people are scary. [10:06] hehe [10:06] awww, poor crimsun [10:06] crimsun: why are our eyes too close together or sumphin [10:06] haha [10:07] I think it's the -lack- of eyes and overabundance of pointy sticks. [10:07] nah. i think the Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! scares crimsun, and that's definetly in kubuntu ownership [10:07] crimsun: i wish you would stop living a lie and just come out with it already, you closet kubuntu ser [10:07] err s/ser/user [10:07] who's missing eyes here? === Hobbsee counts...1...2...3...yup, got the required number [10:07] everyone, thanks to some pointy stick of doom? [10:08] i dont poke their eyes out.... [10:08] nixternal: I already do use it kthx [10:08] hehe [10:08] if we would have known that you would show up with your damn pointy stick we would have hidden === nixternal wants super loud sound on his laptop already :) [10:08] nixternal what do you wnat the header and footer to look like? [10:08] kwwii: haha. kicked me out of the channel when i was still a lurker, yes? [10:08] s/wnat/want === Hobbsee hugs kwwii instead of attacking with the stick [10:09] ;-) [10:09] n8k99: i have no clue, something new and exciting of course, but i will leave that up to Riddell === Hobbsee hopes kwwii doesnt really mind her stick [10:09] Hobbsee: just depends where you stick it :p [10:09] haha [10:09] haha [10:09] where you dont want it to go, of course :P [10:09] oh shat, im out of this one [10:09] oh the possibilities raised by that statement... [10:10] kwwii did grow up on the north side :) [10:10] now I should say something dirty [10:10] the north side? === n8k99 giggles uncontrollably [10:10] kwwii: you could. it'll probably hurt though. [10:10] I am into some pretty funky stuff [10:10] kwwii: so who and when will work on kubuntu-artwork-* specs? [10:11] nixternal: as opposed to super not-loud sound? [10:11] mhb: no idea yet [10:11] erm [10:11] rather, I have the specs done [10:11] but who will do the work is still up in the air [10:11] yes crimsun [10:11] kwwii: you have? [10:11] nixternal: I have no idea what that means. [10:11] sure, for months [10:11] kwwii: I mean more than https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/kubuntu-artwork-desktop [10:12] kwwii: i think we'll leave your private life hidden :P [10:12] kwwii: some specific guidelines, ideas [10:12] hehe [10:12] nixternal: did you recently get that machen? [10:12] being married will turn any man into a semi-freak [10:12] kwwii: specifying what will remain/ what will change [10:12] :p [10:12] mhb: well, check the specs:-) [10:12] kwwii: I'm checking the wiki pages [10:12] you could add one to use polyester [10:13] kwwii: I have added that to the meeting agenda [10:13] launchpad would be a good place to start [10:13] which meeting? [10:13] next Kubuntu meeting [10:13] kwwii: oh dear. yes, these women people are terrible, i dont know how you stand us :P [10:13] why have I not recieved notice of a meeting? [10:13] kwwii: because there is not yet a date for it? [10:13] hey now, I love my wife [10:13] meeting? [10:13] and you can too for 19.95 [10:14] mhb: that would be a good reason [10:14] I've bought that and I love my girlfriend twice as much! I can only recommend kwwii's product! [10:14] hehe [10:14] you cant run a meeting if i'm not there, again :P [10:14] no doubt [10:14] once a year we should make meeting where Hobbsee can come [10:15] Hobbsee:someone has to bring the pointy stick [10:15] kwwii: of course you do. but us women are still crazy :P [10:15] but not much more than taht :p [10:15] lol [10:15] kwwii: i make it to most of them. just the last one i missed, being suddenly out of the state. (i had about 4 days warning before, and it was too late to change the meeting) [10:15] hahahhaa [10:15] n8k99: indeed. [10:16] who's up for writing the python code to port the upgrader over. [10:16] ? === tonyyserver [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #kubuntu-devel === n8k99 hears tumbleweeds blowing by [10:24] wheweweweweeheheheheh [10:24] hmmm? [10:24] and/or the sound of one hand clapping [10:24] [22:14] who's up for writing the python code to port the upgrader over. [10:25] look Hobbsee you could poke me with the stick but the amount of python I know will get ya squat [10:25] Hobbsee: usually it's the one who asks the question :o) [10:26] lol [10:26] kwwii: by the way, it might be a good thing for the Kubuntu artwork to move slowly towards KDE4's Oxygen [10:26] mhb: don't worry, we have secret plans for that [10:26] kwwii: good, good .o) [10:27] secret plans! I love secrets! [10:27] mhb: the info on the kde wiki is up to date, but we are going to work on it soon [10:27] mhb: my python's not very good. === Hobbsee hacks away at some python code in the background [10:28] n8k99: hehe, fair enough [10:28] once we have that done, we(kubuntu) are/is further than any other dist [10:28] :) [10:28] hehe === toma_ is now known as toma [10:29] http://developernew.kde.org/Projects/Oxygen/namingSpec [10:29] feel free to work on it [10:29] really [10:31] kwwii: KDE4's gonna use emblems? yay! [10:31] haha [10:31] no [10:31] aww [10:31] that is the f.d.o naming spec [10:32] until now kde does not use all of it [10:32] although we extend it quite a bit [10:33] no emblems for KDE4? :( [10:34] I find them useful. But then, I find a lot of things useful. [10:34] the Oxygen home folder icon looks kind of like a folder with an emblem [10:35] we will have something like emblems but it will be used differently [10:35] programatically [10:35] function bases [10:35] based [10:36] file-interaction based [10:39] are there additional functions in katapault beside being a launcher? === n8k99 sorry about the tangent [10:40] it can add up numbers, i've heard :) [10:41] fdoving: how's that? [10:41] oh I see [10:42] there is a catalog for it. [10:42] n8k99: + music + bookmarks, et [10:42] c [10:42] there is also a spelling thing. [10:44] I'd love Kontact integration for that :o) [10:44] it'd be great if it could append notes within knotes [10:44] ooh, yeah :) [10:46] if it did that- I might start using knotes!! [10:47] can't be hard to make. === yveslu [n=yves@194.235.200.237] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:48] knotes? Bah. Basket :D [10:49] +1 apokryphos. then again, basket can import knotes [10:50] right. It's just nice+easy to throw things into, quick search for my long notes, and doesn't take up my desktop [10:50] right. then you could alt + space append knote > which would end up in basket === yveslu [n=yves@194.235.200.237] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] [10:54] kwwii: it seems the "edit_add" and "edit_remove" icons have been renamed to just "add" and "remove" in current kdelibs, but after you adding it to Oxygen as "add" vignoni has renamed it to its former name [10:54] kwwii: which makes it inconsistent with current kdelibs and also the "remove" icon in Oxygen [10:55] jpetso: it might very well be so, although I have not looked at it [10:55] I wrote that a few hours ago [10:55] so he has not reall looked at it yet [10:55] kwwii: no, i mean Oxygen's actions/ SVN should be fixed [10:56] re [10:56] hi kwwiin, jpetso [10:56] hi Tonio_ [10:56] atm personally I'd get in kickoff and forget katapult :P [10:56] it does sums too :D [10:57] apokryphos: well I am just packaging it [10:57] apokryphos: but it is a pure pain to build it [10:57] hm, really? How come? [10:57] apokryphos: got something forking? [10:57] apokryphos: well I miss a header file and I am completly unable to find it [10:58] forking? [10:58] jpetso: not sure I understand [10:58] Tonio_: hey man [10:58] Tonio_: merry christmas [10:58] apokryphos: forking what ? [10:58] Tonio_: long time, no see [10:58] Tonio_: how are you? [10:58] kwwii: yeah I took a break for the vacations :) [10:58] Tonio_: "got something forking?" as in, what do you mean there? [10:59] kwwii: very nice, with my parents in nantes [10:59] Tonio_: good for you, I hope it was nice [10:59] apokryphos: oups sorry, "working" was the good one :) [10:59] kwwii: it is yes, I'll stay there until 02/01 [10:59] kwwii: oh. er. i think i made an error. forget it for now, sorry. [10:59] tm_t had it built some time ago IIRC, but he doesn't seem to be around lately [11:00] kwwii: anyways, i wonder why there are no edit_add and edit_remove icons in kdelibs anymore [11:01] maybe they were never there and were living in another module [11:01] er, scrap that [11:02] apokryphos: kickoff requires kmenubase.h, which I couldn't find anywhere.... [11:02] jpetso: :-) [11:02] now you see [11:03] kwwii: seems i'm slightly puzzled at the moment because there is a plus icon, but not a related minus icon [11:03] kwwii: and the plus icon is named differently in kdelibs and in Oxygen [11:07] well, that list is the first of such...so do no expect too much [11:07] we still have a long way to go [11:11] those battery/ac messages in Edgy/Feisty are provided by guidance-power-manager? [11:13] can we make them translatable? === lotusleaf [n=lotuslea@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has joined #kubuntu-devel === n8k99 [n=nathan@dsl254-078-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] [11:43] kwwii: i've reviewed the Action icons in the wiki, they should be ok now === praetor [n=praetor@211.27.216.81] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:47] jpetso: what did you change? [11:47] kwwii: just a few things, the history is maybe best for the diffs: http://developernew.kde.org/index.php?title=Projects/Oxygen/namingSpec&action=history [11:48] cool [11:48] kwwii: seems i don't have an account, maybe i should get one [11:48] might hellp [11:49] help [11:49] anyway [11:49] time for bed [11:49] see you soon I hope [11:50] kwwii: sure === Botcheese [n=SoS@cpe-72-181-114-83.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #Kubuntu-Devel === Botcheese [n=SoS@cpe-72-181-114-83.houston.res.rr.com] has left #Kubuntu-Devel ["It's] === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jikanter [n=jordan@dhcp-225-26.eastdorm.uic.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel