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mgastknSanne, I opened Apt12:14
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Sannemgastkn: take care, it's apt (Linux is case sensitive) ;). Now find the file sources.list, click on it, then click on open.12:14
Ricardo_Ram#opensuse12:14
mgastknSanne, it's the edgy distribution12:15
lupine_85!info iceweasel edgy12:15
ubotuPackage iceweasel does not exist in edgy12:15
mgastknSanne, I clicked on the soruces list12:15
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Ricardo_RamSuggest to Apple to create a QuickTime version for Linux in this website = http://www.apple.com/quicktime/feedback/12:15
Ricardo_RamSuggest to Apple to create a QuickTime version for Linux in this website = http://www.apple.com/quicktime/feedback/12:15
Ricardo_RamSuggest to Apple to create a QuickTime version for Linux in this website = http://www.apple.com/quicktime/feedback/12:15
Sannemgastkn: ah! For your information, you just opened the file where the software repositories are managed, from where your system knows to download and install packages.12:16
DaSkreechRicardo_Ram: Good idea Write to them12:16
mgastknSanne, does that info I gave you help?12:16
Ricardo_RamDaSkreech I did it already.12:16
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mgastknSanne, it also says this will not get any updates from Ubuntu. That doesn't sound good.12:17
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DaSkreechRicardo_Ram: :-)12:17
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Ricardo_RamSuggest to Apple to create a QuickTime version for Linux in this website = http://www.apple.com/quicktime/feedback/12:17
Bubba_Gumpanyway of showing artist types in amarok in a cloud view?12:17
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Sannemgastkn: keep your sources.list open, then I can have a look at it later. Now, let's go back to the system settings.12:18
DaSkreechRicardo_Ram: That's not going to help you as much as getting someone to blog about it12:18
DaSkreech That means you are going to need some seriours reasons and a path to how to get itto work12:18
DaSkreechRicardo_Ram: Plus you can get most Quicktiem stuff working on Linux already12:18
DaSkreechIt's why ICQ will not make a linux client. There are too many good ones already12:19
mgastknSanne, I closed it by accident12:19
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Sannemgastkn: kwrite or system settings?12:19
mgastknSanne, I'm back in system settings12:19
LjLRicardo_Ram: not again. thanks.12:19
mgastknSanne, I closed kwrite12:19
brandon_DaSkreech: it didn't compile correctly!12:19
Sannemgastkn: ok. Can you find some button at the top or bottom where it says "advanced" or the like?12:20
Sannemgastkn: in system settings12:20
DaSkreechbrandon_: the repos on the Win site should have 64 bit wine12:20
mgastknSanne, advanced, yes12:20
brandon_DaSkreech: can you tell me which repo to add?12:20
mgastknSanne, yes12:20
Sannemgastkn: look if you find the login manager there12:21
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mgastknSanne, do I need to go into adminstrator mode. I don't see it yet12:21
just-this-timehi have additional space on /media/sdb3 writable to root only12:21
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DaSkreechbrandon_: oh! maybe ask in #winehq They could tell you if there is a feisty repo up already12:21
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just-this-timehow to chmod +w whole tree?12:22
mgastknSanne, I clicked on the login manager!12:22
brandon_how does nobody in this chat room know12:22
Sannemgastkn: cool! Now go to the convenience tab.12:22
mgastknSanne, I'm there12:22
mefisto__does anyone know how to enable sound when playing .3gp video files12:23
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mgastknSanne, should I go to adminstrator mode?12:23
Sannemgastkn: it's disabled, isn't it? Now you need to click the administrator button.12:23
brandon_DaSkreech: no luck!12:23
Sanneyeah ;)12:23
claydohbrandon_:  wine's version in feisty is only a couple of weeks old, I suggest disabling the added repo12:23
DaSkreechthey don't know or they don't have one?12:23
just-this-time!patience12:23
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines12:23
DaSkreech!info wine12:23
ubotuwine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB12:23
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claydohansd using the one in the standard repos12:23
claydohbut i am not familiar with x6412:24
brandon_claydoh: which repo should I be adding then?12:24
mgastknSanne, it's not letting me type a password. Can you believe this!12:24
claydohbrandon_: none12:24
mgastknSanne, it worked that time12:24
claydohits already there, prob in universe/multiverse12:24
brandon_than why is there not a wine package12:24
claydoh'io think12:24
DaSkreechbrandon_: You have universe already12:25
just-this-timebrandon enable universe multiverse and restricted12:25
Sannemgastkn: sometimes the password input box doesn't appear, if so, just try again.12:25
brandon_claydoh: why can't I find it12:25
claydohits httere12:25
DaSkreech!info wine feisty12:25
brandon_DaSkreech: yes12:25
Sannemgastkn: ok12:25
ubotuwine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.27-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 9322 kB, installed size 43384 kB12:25
claydohI have it12:25
mgastknSanne, should I check auto-login?12:25
DaSkreechbrandon_: It's there12:25
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just-this-timemgastkn: sure12:25
brandon_is it called libwine?12:25
mgastknSanne, I clicked it and APPLY12:25
DaSkreechNo Just wine12:25
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Sannemgastkn: that I don't know, because I didn't try it myself. Maybe now is a good time to click on the help button.12:25
brandon_DaSkreech: yeah, It's not there!12:26
Pirate-kinghello12:26
Sannemgastkn: man, you're hasty ;)12:26
Pirate-kinghow do you set up wireless is kubuntu?12:26
DaSkreechbrandon_: from the command line can you type <apt-cache policy wine> for me?12:26
brandon_wine:12:26
brandon_  Installed: (none)12:26
brandon_  Candidate: (none)12:26
brandon_  Version table:12:26
mgastknSanne, I'm sorry.12:27
brandon_is it because I am on 64?12:27
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Sannemgastkn: well, so now would be the time to try it out, eh? I hope it works! Log out, see if it does?12:27
DaSkreechDon't know much about Wine and 6412:27
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Sannemgastkn: or read help before that12:28
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mgastknSanne, there is also an "enable password-less logins12:28
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brandon_there isn't a 64bit wine, I know that, but why isn't a 32bit package listing with search?12:28
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Sannemgastkn: I see, and that's what I don't know, which to choose.12:28
Sannemgastkn: tip!12:28
mgastknSanne, it list a buch of things to check, including my name.12:28
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Sannemgastkn: with SHIFT-F! you can get context help for some options.12:29
mgastknMy name is there. It's my login12:29
brandon_DaSkreech: there isn't a 64bit wine, I know that, but why isn't a 32bit package listing with search?12:29
doppelganger_Hi guys. Are there ways to increase your throughput in kubuntu? I can download a file on it, from a certain mirror, and only get like 50kb/s tops, and on my windows machine in the other room i get around 200kb/s12:29
Sannemgastkn: really, I see that also, but I don't know. The help should tell you, or somebody else who knows.12:29
chris_Hey12:29
DaSkreechbrandon_: You may have to do it from a 32bit chroot12:29
chris_can I get some help on erasing my boot record12:29
brandon_wth dude12:30
DaSkreech!6412:30
doppelganger_same mirror, nothing different with router, etc  (i'm not networking stupid, just can't understand what's up with this since i'm new to linux)12:30
mgastknSanne, I think it will work now. I'm tempted to reboot.12:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 64 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:30
brandon_that sounds too complicated12:30
Pirate-kingis there a way to use a wired and wifi connection at the same time?12:30
DaSkreech!chroot12:30
ubotuhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box12:30
Sannemgastkn: if it doesn't work, don't blame me ;)12:30
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chris_can I get some help on erasing my boot record12:30
chris_anyone?12:30
DaSkreechbrandon_: that should help12:30
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Sannemgastkn: if it does, please come back and tell me, ok?12:31
chris_cause Im trying to duel boot and I need to clean my MBR in order to what I want12:31
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mgastknSanne, I'm restrting the computer12:31
AngryElfanyone know why the tracks that I have tagged in amarok no longer have tags in itunes?12:31
Sannemgastkn: ok, see you in a bit12:31
mgastknSanne, I'm talking to you on my laptop12:31
chris_Hello?12:31
Sannemgastkn: ah! ok.12:31
chris_can I get some help on erasing my boot record12:31
chris_cause Im trying to duel boot and I need to clean my MBR in order to what I want12:31
chris_...12:31
chris_?12:32
mgastknSanne, Kubuntu is loading. We'll know soon12:32
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mefisto__chris_: you need to clean your MBR in order to...?12:32
Ricardo_RamSuggest to Apple to create a QuickTime version for Linux in this web site www.apple.com/quicktime/feedback/12:32
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Ricardo_RamSuggest to Apple to create a QuickTime version for Linux in this web site www.apple.com/quicktime/feedback/12:32
Ricardo_RamSuggest to Apple to create a QuickTime version for Linux in this web site www.apple.com/quicktime/feedback/12:32
mgastknSanne, it appears to be working12:32
Sannemgastkn: phew!12:32
DaSkreech!grub | chris_12:32
ubotuchris_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto12:32
chris_install windows and then install kubuntu so i can duel boot12:32
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Sannemgastkn: you ended up choosing auto login, didn't you?12:32
mgastknSanne, you did it! I wouldn't blame you, but I WILL give you the credit12:33
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Ricardo_RamSuggest to Apple to create a QuickTime version for Linux in this web site www.apple.com/quicktime/feedback/12:33
Ricardo_RamSuggest to Apple to create a QuickTime version for Linux in this web site www.apple.com/quicktime/feedback/12:33
Ricardo_RamSuggest to Apple to create a QuickTime version for Linux in this web site www.apple.com/quicktime/feedback/12:33
Ricardo_RamSuggest to Apple to create a QuickTime version for Linux in this web site www.apple.com/quicktime/feedback/12:33
Ricardo_RamSuggest to Apple to create a QuickTime version for Linux in this web site www.apple.com/quicktime/feedback/12:33
Ricardo_RamSuggest to Apple to create a QuickTime version for Linux in this web site www.apple.com/quicktime/feedback/12:33
Sannemgastkn: you're welcome. May I ask you to do something now, for all my help? ;)12:33
Ricardo_RamSuggest to Apple to create a QuickTime version for Linux in this web site www.apple.com/quicktime/feedback/12:33
mgastknSanne, I did choose auto-login, and also selected my name12:33
Ricardo_RamSuggest to Apple to create a QuickTime version for Linux in this web site www.apple.com/quicktime/feedback/12:33
Ricardo_RamSuggest to Apple to create a QuickTime version for Linux in this web site www.apple.com/quicktime/feedback/12:33
brandon_DaSkreech: why is the package libwine a "break"12:33
Ricardo_RamSuggest to Apple to create a QuickTime version for Linux in this web site www.apple.com/quicktime/feedback/12:33
Ricardo_RamSuggest to Apple to create a QuickTime version for Linux in this web site www.apple.com/quicktime/feedback/12:33
mgastknSanne, sure12:33
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Ricardo_RamSuggest to Apple to create a QuickTime version for Linux in this web site www.apple.com/quicktime/feedback/12:34
Ricardo_RamSuggest to Apple to create a QuickTime version for Linux in this web site www.apple.com/quicktime/feedback/12:34
just-this-time guys pls help  spread http://cargol.net/~ramon/ubuntu-dvd-en12:34
Ricardo_RamSuggest to Apple to create a QuickTime version for Linux in this web site www.apple.com/quicktime/feedback/12:34
Ricardo_RamSuggest to Apple to create a QuickTime version for Linux in this web site www.apple.com/quicktime/feedback/12:34
Ricardo_RamSuggest to Apple to create a QuickTime version for Linux in this web site www.apple.com/quicktime/feedback/12:34
Ricardo_RamSuggest to Apple to create a QuickTime version for Linux in this web site www.apple.com/quicktime/feedback/12:34
Ricardo_RamSuggest to Apple to create a QuickTime version for Linux in this web site www.apple.com/quicktime/feedback/12:34
Ricardo_RamSuggest to Apple to create a QuickTime version for Linux in this web site www.apple.com/quicktime/feedback/12:35
Ricardo_RamSuggest to Apple to create a QuickTime version for Linux in this web site www.apple.com/quicktime/feedback/12:35
Ricardo_RamSuggest to Apple to create a QuickTime version for Linux in this web site www.apple.com/quicktime/feedback/12:35
Ricardo_RamSuggest to Apple to create a QuickTime version for Linux in this web site www.apple.com/quicktime/feedback/12:35
Ricardo_RamSuggest to Apple to create a QuickTime version for Linux in this web site www.apple.com/quicktime/feedback/12:35
Ricardo_RamSuggest to Apple to create a QuickTime version for Linux in this web site www.apple.com/quicktime/feedback/12:35
mindspin!ops12:35
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind or trappist12:35
just-this-timeRicardo_Ram:         ???12:35
Ricardo_RamSuggest to Apple to create a QuickTime version for Linux in this web site www.apple.com/quicktime/feedback/12:35
Ricardo_Ramv12:35
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Ricardo_RamSuggest to Apple to create a QuickTime version for Linux in this web site www.apple.com/quicktime/feedback/12:35
Ricardo_RamSuggest to Apple to create a QuickTime version for Linux in this web site www.apple.com/quicktime/feedback/12:35
mgastknSanne, what do you need12:35
Ricardo_Ramv12:35
DaSkreech!kops12:35
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Ricardo_RamSuggest to Apple to create a QuickTime version for Linux in this web site www.apple.com/quicktime/feedback/12:35
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chris_cause Im trying to duel boot and I need to clean my MBR in order to what I want12:35
Sannemgastkn: ok, since you seem to need to get up to speed on the linux fundamentals, I highly recommend reading the kubuntu desktop guide you'll find in kde menu->help. And also the FAQ, Documentation and Wiki on http://kubuntu.org/ should help you. See it as a kind of homework ;)12:35
chris_can I get some help on erasing my boot record12:35
just-this-timekick this ricardo now12:35
just-this-timeOK12:35
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just-this-timegeia sou apokryphos12:36
DaSkreechbrandon_: it relies on something that either can't be installed or is itself broken12:36
apokryphoshi12:36
DaSkreechchris_:12:36
DaSkreechI gave you alink already12:36
LjL!ops12:36
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind or trappist12:36
apokryphosLjL: ?12:36
DaSkreechLjL: Late :)12:36
LjLops: sorry, nevermind12:36
LjLi had my window scrolled up :(12:36
brandon_DaSkreech: oh, meaning it's in development possibly?12:36
galegoalguem fala portugues?12:36
LjL!pt | galego12:36
ubotugalego: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.12:36
DaSkreech!grub | chris_ please read this12:36
ubotuchris_ please read this: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto12:36
just-this-time guys pls help  spread http://cargol.net/~ramon/ubuntu-dvd-en12:36
mgastknSanne, I will read it. Right now it's updating a bunch of files. Interesting, to use the adept updater, I needed to enter my password. Maybe I should go back and check everything, not just my name12:36
just-this-timeapokryphos: is my above line spam ?12:36
apokryphosjust-this-time: not spam; just English only in here. Join us in #ubuntu-gr if you like12:37
mefisto__does anyone know how to enable sound when playing .3gp video files?12:37
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just-this-timeapokryphos: i just thought if more ppl get chunks from http://cargol.net/~ramon/ubuntu-dvd-en12:37
Sannemgastkn: you always will need to provide your password for installing software, that's one of the tasks you can only do as administrator. Have fun, read the fine docs ;), and if you get stuck, we're here to help :)12:38
just-this-timeit will get more responsive12:38
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apokryphosok, but note:12:38
apokryphos!repeat12:38
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience12:38
mgastknSanne, it's loading up a bunch of updates. I guess that's pretty cool.12:38
just-this-timesure apokryphos tyvm12:38
Sannemgastkn: yeah, that's one of the awesome things the debian/ubuntu/kubuntu package manager does for us.12:39
just-this-timebtw know of any other similar ubuntu dvd burn links ?12:39
Pirate-kingcan someone help me install jave in kubuntu?12:39
Pirate-kingcan someone help me install java in kubuntu?12:39
just-this-timewhat is jave?12:39
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Pirate-kingjava12:40
DaSkreech!java12:40
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository12:40
brandon_DaSkreech: oh, meaning it's in development possibly?12:40
apokryphosPirate-king: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic12:40
DaSkreechbrandon_: I forget :) what are we talking about?12:40
just-this-timejave not in ubuntu -main-edgy-packages12:40
DaSkreechWine 64 bit?12:40
brandon_wine and why i can't install it on12:40
brandon_yes12:40
Sannemgastkn: there was some concern you had about some text in /etc/apt/sources.list, wasn't there?12:40
DaSkreechI don't think that they have so few headaches to roll into that right now12:41
Stardogmy frostwire wont connetct to the net... y?12:41
mgastknSanne, I don't know enough to have a concern.12:41
DaSkreechBut it's out of my league that's a question for #winehq12:41
brandon_DaSkreech: how hard is it to chroot 32bit world?12:41
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mgastknSanne, right now I'm getting 75 updates. I guess I will be able to tell if openoffice says version 2.112:42
Sannemgastkn: ok12:42
DaSkreechbrandon_: I would suspect that after one or two tries it's trvial12:43
DaSkreech!chroot | brandon_ may help12:43
ubotubrandon_ may help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box12:43
rdarderHow can I configure powersaved to suspend to ram on lid close?12:43
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Sannemgastkn: hmm, in edgy you only get openoffice 2.0.412:43
mgastknSanne, yeah, but it can be updated, right? I think it's doing that now.12:44
ctothejfglrxinfo gives me libmesa details. can someone tell me how to check the simlinks for libGL.so and libGL.so.1 ?12:44
Sannemgastkn: no, it won't get a new version, you only get security updates and grave bug fixes.12:45
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mgastknSanne, so do I need to uninstall it, and install the latest version?12:45
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Sannemgastkn: I highly advise against it. Until you're comfortable with Linux/Kubuntu, you better stick with only software from the repositories. You will get new versions of packages when you upgrade in April, if you so choose. To install a newer version of a package not in the repositories requires quite a bit manual work I wouldn't recommend you trying just yet.12:47
mefisto__does anyone know how to enable sound when playing .3gp video files? This thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1552286#post1552286 says I need to untar a file to the Mplayer-sources/libavcodec/ directory. Where is that directory found?12:48
mgastknSanne, so version 2.1 isn't in the repository yet?12:48
Sannemgastkn: it's noe in Edgy, and will never be. It is in the development version that will get released in April.12:48
Sannemgastkn: you can search which version of what is where at packages.ubuntu.com12:49
mgastknSanne, that kind of sucks.Maybe I shouldn't have installed Edgy.12:49
mgastknSanne, I might want to install such important software now, if there is a way.12:50
Sannemgastkn: *ubuntu is a stable distro, that means, package version won't change once released, until the next stable version that comes out every 6 months.12:50
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mgastknSanne, will it be easy to upgrade in April?12:50
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mgastknSanne, is edgy considered "stable"?12:51
Sannemgastkn: You can install programs manually, I do it all the time with things I absolutely *need* bleeding edge ;). But please familiarize yourself a bit with Kubuntu first, then find some tutorials in the wiki or forums on how to do that.12:51
mefisto__could someone take a look at this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1552286#post1552286 says I need to untar a file to the Mplayer-sources/libavcodec/ directory. Where is that directory found?12:52
Sannemgastkn: yes, edgy is released since late October, so it is stable.12:52
mgastknSanne, ok12:52
Sannemgastkn: upgrading in April *should* be painless, *if* you sitck with the official repositories for now. Otherwise it might get tricky.12:52
mgastknSanne, well I do want gmail notifier12:53
geniistdin How went the herd1 auto-update?12:53
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Sannemgastkn: hold on a sec, need to get me some coffee quick. Brb.12:54
mgastknSaane, ok12:54
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rich423Whats a good brand of printer that goes very well with kubuntu 6.06?12:57
apokryphosrich423: see linuxprinting.org12:57
apokryphos!print12:57
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows12:57
apokryphosand there12:57
rich423thanks12:57
mefisto__could someone take a look at this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1552286#post1552286 It says I need to untar a file to the Mplayer-sources/libavcodec/ directory. Where is that directory found?12:57
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geniirich423 I have had good working percentage with HP printers and linux12:59
rich423thanks all :) you guys are great01:00
JohnFluxmefisto__: presumably you are supposed to get the mplayer sources first01:00
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mefisto__JohnFlux: meaning I install mplayer sources from adept or synaptic?01:02
JohnFluxcould do, or download it from the mplayer website01:02
cl3msalut01:02
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JohnFluxmefisto__: hmmmm01:03
JohnFluxmefisto__: that post is pretty old01:03
Sannemgastkn: back01:03
JohnFluxmefisto__: it's unlikely the patch will work now01:03
mefisto__JohnFlux: any other suggestions? for some people, installing realplayer enables sound in .3gp files, but didn't work for me01:04
JohnFluxmefisto__: dunno sorry01:04
mgastknSanne, thanks01:04
mgastknSanne, it still asks me my password for a lot of stuff, including adept and changing the time.01:05
rich423I'm looking for a good widget for Kubuntu with SuperKaramba, whats the best clock to get? chrome clock doesn't work too well for me01:05
slow-motionn801:06
Sannemgastkn: yep, youonly disabled the password check for login. For everything else you need to provide it. But usually you don't so many things as admin from day to day.01:06
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mgastknSanne, so that's the way it is, huh01:07
Sannemgastkn: I don't think you can disable that, Linux is just designed like this.01:07
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just-this-timeguys what is an partition imaging package like acronis and ghost ?01:07
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mgastknSanne, do you think I will be able to install picasa and gmail notifier?01:08
Sannemgastkn: I don't know, never done that. Those are proprietary, yes? Not in the repositories?01:08
just-this-timemgastkn: depends on google programmers?01:08
BluesKaj!picasa01:08
ubotuPicasa from Google can be downloaded in .deb format from: http://picasa.google.com/linux/download.html01:08
mgastknUbotu, but how do you install it?01:09
apokryphoswhy would you want to use picasa?01:09
apokryphos!bot | mgastkn01:09
ubotumgastkn: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots01:09
Sannemgastkn: I would check ubuntuforums.org or the wiki if there are tutorials on howto install those.01:09
apokryphosdigikam is way better than picasa....01:09
BluesKajpicasa has nice features for editing etc01:10
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sonicGBhow does digikam compare to Aperture?01:10
apokryphosBluesKaj: what like?01:10
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BluesKajredeyem , brightness and contrast cntls01:11
Sannemgastkn: I still recommend sticking to the repositories for the time being and use alternatives to your preferred software, but that's your choice, of course.01:11
Pirate-kingjava is essy in ubuntu but not in kubuntu01:12
apokryphoshuh? Sure it is01:12
apokryphosBluesKaj: digikam has all of those01:12
apokryphosand does them very well01:12
Pirate-kingtring to install it to run in firefox01:12
apokryphosand looks pretty while doing it, unlike picasa's bad wine port over :P01:12
apokryphosPirate-king: easy01:13
apokryphosPirate-king: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic01:13
geniimgastkn You can install any .deb file with dpkg -i </path/to/packagename/package.deb>01:13
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mgastknSanne, I installed picasa. Amazing. I gotta go now. But I want to let you know that I consider you a friend01:15
apokryphosmgastkn: use digikam :P01:15
Sannemgastkn: coll, congrats, and thanks :)01:15
mgastknbye01:15
Sannebye01:15
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just-this-timewhere do I tell ubuntu what lang to use for upper ascii AKA non-unicode01:20
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gon!mp301:21
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:21
gon!ati01:21
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:21
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geniiAnyone successfully compiled Conexant HSF/HCF modem drivers under Edgy yet?01:25
just-this-timegenii: I have one PC not recognizing the conexant modem01:26
just-this-timeon the todo list genii ;-)01:26
geniijust-this-time The drivers compile successfully on Dapper but not yet Edgy01:27
just-this-timeI see01:27
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devinushi, i deleted the /usr/share/icons/Crystal directory and did an apt-get remove kde-icons-crystal && apt-get install kde-icons-crystal, but it's not showing up any more on System Settings -> Appearance -> Icons01:28
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HailandKillRight... I usually use Gentoo and Gnome, but I'm setting up a Kubuntu machine for someone and I'm struggling to use Adept..At the moment, I only want to install firefox (preferably firefox 2.0) but the adept Installer has it blanked out01:28
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rich423how do I uninstall Crystal Calendar from superkaramba, the uninstall button is faded01:30
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rich423its not acting like the other gadgets in superkaramba where I can just click and uninstall01:30
DaSkreechCan I terminate a shutdown?01:31
Pirate-kingdoes someone want to help me install java01:31
Pirate-kingapt-get install jre-1_5_0_10-linux-i58601:31
Pirate-kingtried that01:31
Pirate-kingin a terminal01:31
fdoving!java | pirate-king01:31
ubotupirate-king: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository01:31
DaSkreechPirate-king: Did you add the right repos?01:31
just-this-timejust when terminate the shutdown01:31
HailandKillwhat does it mean when a package is greyed out in adept?01:32
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geniiHailandKill It means in your current list of repositories the package is referred to by other packages for instance but not directly available01:33
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DaSkreechjust-this-time: Sorry?01:34
HailandKillgenii, right... so I need to look at my repository file no doubt.01:34
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HailandKillWhere do they live?01:34
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fdoving!software | hailandkill01:35
ubotuhailandkill: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents and !Offline01:35
geniiHailandKill Yes, make sure each line beginning with "deb" is uncommented (except the cdrom entry) and that at the end of each deb line the entries universe and multiverse appear01:35
Borgus!Packages01:35
ubotuYou can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!01:35
just-this-timeDaSkreech> Can I terminate a shutdown? <---- <just-this-time> just when terminate the shutdown01:36
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ctothejwhy does konversation auto start when i log in to kde?01:36
DaSkreechjust-this-time: Before the computer shuts down of course :)01:36
HailandKillgenii, thanks. Do I need to run any command to update apt after that, or will it all be okay with life?01:36
fdovingctothej: you probably left it running when you logged out.01:36
geniiHailandKill Then do "sudo apt-get update" in a console to get an updated list01:36
HailandKillTa.01:36
fdovingctothej: sessions are autosaved.01:36
fdovingnite all.01:37
DaSkreechniught01:37
cathalctothej: cause it was still in the start menu when u shutdown01:37
DaSkreechnight01:37
just-this-timeDaSkreech: do   you know what app   will stay and what is out. what is the use to stop shutdown? save time ?01:37
geniiHailandKill The repository list text file is of course /etc/apt/sources.list01:37
ctothejcathal: start menu meaning system tray?01:37
DaSkreechjust-this-time: sometimes I accidently hit the power button01:37
cathalctothej: yep01:37
DaSkreechI can pause the shutdown but how do I terminate it?01:38
ctothejcathal: k cool. thanks.01:38
just-this-timehaha DaSkreech cover it or take it out01:38
DaSkreechWhat process should I look for?01:39
just-this-timehow do u pause01:39
DaSkreechjust-this-time: If I have a OO.o or a kate open where I haven't saved it stops01:39
just-this-timeyou know init is the root process DaSkreech01:39
DaSkreechYeah01:39
just-this-timeI see DaSkreech01:39
just-this-timeshutdown is a init 6 or init 0 command01:40
DaSkreechRight01:40
DaSkreechcan I do a init 2 in the middle of an init 0?01:40
just-this-timeCTRL- esc brings you processtable window01:41
DaSkreechYes01:41
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just-this-timeDaSkreech: maybe studying what signals to send to init is the clue01:42
DaSkreechYes I'd love to find out how the APCI stuff is implemented01:42
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MrVincentHey guys01:42
just-this-timego to processtable ( ctrl esc) tree v iew DaSkreech and right button init01:43
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DaSkreechIsn't shutdown a command?01:43
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just-this-timeproceses send each other signals01:44
MrVincentI'm having problems with my Kubuntu, I,m still on the Live CD, I can connect to the Wireless Network and view pages on the other comps apache servers but not google. I can load LAN pages but not WAN. Anyone knows what's happening?01:44
geniiI think init6 is reboot01:44
just-this-timegenii:  exactly right01:44
just-this-timespace in between01:44
MrVincentAnyone can help?01:45
DaSkreechMrVincent: You don't have a gatewy01:47
MrVincentAnd how do I get one?01:47
DaSkreechdo you know what your gateway should be?01:47
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MrVincentThe router?01:47
MrVincentI'm quite new to Linux you see...01:48
mxwlpxwlhello i have an intel pro wireless 3945 abg that is recognized by kubuntu, but i cannot connect to any access points. there is no encryption, but i don't know why i can't connect01:48
mxwlpxwlany suggestions?01:49
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DaSkreechMrVincent: I meant the ip address :)01:51
MrVincentThe router's ip?01:52
MrVincentThe kubuntu comp's ip is 192.168.2.1101:52
MrVincentThe router is 192.168.2.101:52
geniiMrVincent So your gateway should be 192.168.2.101:52
DaSkreechMrVincent: ok from the command line type route01:52
geniiDaSkreech Ah I see you are on the job :)01:53
MrVincentI typed route01:53
DaSkreechDo you see 192.168.2.1 there?01:53
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MrVincentdefault 192.168.2.1 yeh01:53
geniiHmm DNS01:54
MrVincentThere's also a destination named 192.168.2.0 with no gateway01:54
DaSkreechMrVincent: can you ping 194.9.77.501:56
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MrVincentYeah... And it won't stop pinging01:57
MrVincentHow do I stop the pinging??01:58
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DaSkreechCtrl +C01:58
DaSkreechok now ping mba4.org01:58
MrVincentunknown host mba4.org01:59
DaSkreechExcellent :)01:59
geniiDNS01:59
DaSkreechYeah01:59
DaSkreechgenii You have a DNS Ip address handy?01:59
rich4324whats a good clock I can install for dapper?01:59
MrVincentDNS... What am I supposed to do now?02:00
geniiDaSkreech Yeah try core arpa dns at 10.0.0.102:00
gon!ati02:01
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:01
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DaSkreechMrVincent: Press Alt+tab and type Sys then enter02:01
MrVincentin the console?02:01
DaSkreechMrVincent: no just press alt+space02:02
DaSkreechWait I said Alt+tab didn't i?02:02
MrVincentyeah02:02
DaSkreechok System Settings came up?02:02
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geniiMrVincent what country are you in? I can try to find some DNS near you02:03
MrVincentyueah02:03
MrVincentI'm in Canada02:03
MrVincentNear Ottawa02:03
geniiMrVincent OK hangon :)02:03
MrVincentBut what's t hat DNS thing?02:03
DaSkreechOk Network Settings -> Administrtor Mode Button -> Your password -> Domain Name System02:04
DaSkreechMrVincent: Computers talk to each other by number (ips to be exact) however humans find it much easier to remember names02:04
MrVincentYeah I know that02:04
gon!es02:04
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.02:04
DaSkreechSo they have a name system that turns one into the other02:04
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DaSkreechDNS :)02:04
MrVincentBut why do I need a DNS with Ubuntu?02:04
HailandKillWhich, if any, repository is firefox 2 on?02:05
DaSkreechCause you don't like to remember numbers?02:05
DaSkreechHailandKill: Main02:05
MrVincentOh...02:05
DaSkreechIf you are edgy or above02:05
HailandKillI'm using dapper02:05
DaSkreechMrVincent: reached the Domain Name System tab ?02:05
MrVincentYes02:05
DaSkreechHailandKill: none02:05
DaSkreechAnd it has a red border?02:06
MrVincentYEah I,m admin in there02:06
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DaSkreechOk Add the server 200.10.152.23202:06
DaSkreechsave and try go to google02:06
genii206.191.0.203 and 206.191.0.139 are magma.ca  core DNS. They are based in Ottawa so you should get good results02:07
DaSkreechIf it works then wait for genii to give you a closer one so that the resolution will be faster02:07
DaSkreechOr just use those :)02:07
DaSkreechYou can add them above mine02:07
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MrVincentI add the server with that Add button at the bottom or with the form there?02:08
MrVincentstatic hosts or domain name servers?02:08
MrVincentDNS I guess :)02:08
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geniidomain name servers. Under static hosts you could add 127.0.0.1 however02:10
MrVincentAnd what are those 2 boxes at the top?02:10
MrVincentI added 206.191.0.203 to the big box and then did apply02:10
MrVincentzomg it works02:11
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MrVincentNow I'd like to know how adding magma.ca's core dns helped02:11
MrVincentWhat did that do?02:11
geniiHailandKill FF2 is still beta so not in repo yet02:11
MrVincentI'm installing Linux to learn yanno :P02:11
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HailandKillgenii, I was just told it was in edgy main?02:11
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matthew_genii, have a good christmas?02:12
bluezyhey hey hey, question, what tool do I use to update the menu's in KDE with programs I installed?02:12
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apokryphosit is up-to-date02:13
ubuntuHi02:13
bluezyapokryphos, no it is not, I installed software and I can not get it in my menu's02:14
apokryphos"software"?02:14
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ubuntuI have just installed Kubuntu 6.10 on my desktop PC02:14
geniiHailandKill it may have recently been added... try something like apt-cache search firefox    and hopefully it will show version in the results02:14
ubuntuKubuntu by default uses anti aliasing02:14
plutoWhy do I have a 4.5 gb ISO that k3b won't burn to a 4.7 gb dv?02:14
plutod02:14
geniimatthew_ Yes it was good :)02:14
bluezyapokryphos, yes, take for instance I install a little thing called apt-update or such02:15
ubuntuI installed MS Core fonts but some Verdana characters look very bad when anti aliasing is off02:15
plutoCan I tell K3B To force fit it or something?02:15
unix_infidelanyone know of a cross platform program that can split audio files and use FLAC?02:15
ubuntuI have uploaded a screenshot to http://files.myopera.com/behrangsa/files/verdana1.png02:15
apokryphosbluezy: not sure what that is, but I'm sure it wouldn't go into the menus. Apt is a CLI tool02:15
ubuntucould someone please take a look at the screenshot and let me know if this is a known problem?02:16
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geniimatthew_ You caught me just as I am leaving work. I will return in about 45 minutesd from home however02:16
bluezywell, ok I install opera and my menu's don't chance02:16
ubuntuEspecially N and W are problematic02:16
matthew_genii, k, see you later02:16
matthew_pluto, you probably have the dvd-iso02:16
geniiSee everyone ~45 mins02:16
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plutoBut shouldn't it fit?02:17
apokryphosbluezy: opera doesn't come from the ubuntu repositories02:17
apokryphosi.e.02:17
apokryphos!info opera02:17
bluezyapokryphos, care I do not02:17
ubotuPackage opera does not exist in any distro I know02:17
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matthew_pluto, oh, sorry, I didn't read all the way through02:17
crimsun!info opera dapper-commercial02:17
ubotuopera: The Opera Web Browser. In component main, is optional. Version 9.00-20060616.7 (dapper-commercial), package size 5415 kB, installed size 12376 kB (Only available for i386)02:17
apokryphosI see02:17
matthew_pluto, what message are you getting from k3b?02:17
crimsunnote that opera.com distributes newer debs.02:17
bluezyUbugtu, bull, get the commercial in your thing.02:17
plutoData will not fit02:17
apokryphosbluezy: I don't care if you care. I'm telling you why it may not have a menu item.02:17
matthew_ubuntu, what's the problem? the noggler woogler thing?02:18
ubuntumatthew_: yes02:18
plutoError: The data will not fit on the disc02:18
matthew_pluto, hmmm, I don't have a dvd-burner...so I can't really test it on my own...let me google around, k?02:18
bluezyapokryphos, ok, tell me how I can put it in there, please?02:18
ubuntuthe first 3 font sizes02:18
ubuntuN and W look ugly02:19
apokryphosbluezy: edit the menu by right-clicking on it02:19
plutok, thx matthew_02:19
matthew_ubuntu, I think that's just the way it is...I could be wrong though...02:19
rich4324is there a better version of kroller? when I install kroller.sez on 6.06 dapper it has major graphics lag for some reason and doesn't match my screen resolution, any ideas?02:19
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MrVincentHey, can I decide in Kubuntu's installation which disk I want to format or will both be formatted?02:19
bluezyapokryphos, you mean kde still does not have the auto adding of software?  Sorry, I am going back to gnome.02:20
apokryphosbluezy: you obviously completely missed the whole point here02:20
ubuntumatthew_: I can upload the Verdana fonts... Could you downled them and test them with your setyp?02:20
apokryphosbluezy: the opera deb you had probably didn't put in a menu item; the problem is the package, not KDE.....02:20
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daniel77hiho02:21
daniel77hey friends, i need reposites for synaptic...02:21
daniel77have you got a good one?02:21
bluezyapokryphos, I have a feeling you have missed my point, I asked you if kde had a tool to put non ubuntu software in your menu's, since it hasn't, and I do not want to place them all on here by hand, I am back to gnome, sorry.02:21
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apokryphosdaniel77: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic02:21
apokryphosbluezy: what other software do you plan on putting it there?02:22
apokryphosnot that I care that much about stopping you from going to gnome. Please, do feel free.02:22
bluezyI have all sorts of things on my computer, like blender and such02:22
daniel77mmm userfull ones... i'm seeing anyprogram that help me :D02:22
apokryphos!info blender02:22
ubotublender: Very fast and versatile 3D modeller/renderer. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.42a-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 6104 kB, installed size 16072 kB02:22
apokryphosblender should be in your menu02:23
MrVincent Hey, can I decide in Kubuntu's installation which disk I want to format or will both be formatted?02:23
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bluezystrange, I can not find it.02:23
apokryphosI'm sure gnome has no more of an "automatic tool" for menu items than KDE does02:23
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TheoryMrVincent: when I installed edgy a week ago I was given a choice02:23
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apokryphosin fact, gnome didn't even have a decent menu editor until pretty reasonably recently02:23
MrVincentkk02:23
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data_alguem ai manja de kubuntu02:24
Schuenemann[BRB] !br | data_02:24
ubotudata_: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.02:24
bluezyapokryphos, well, perhaps I am mistaken but Iseel ti remember it did do it quicker.02:25
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rich4324is there a better program then kroller.sez?02:25
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apokryphoswhat exactly is long about typing two words?02:26
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matthew_pluto, here is the reason you can't burn it. I think.           http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24114102:26
apokryphosone for the entry name, one for the command. Doesn't sound so hard.02:26
apokryphosanyhow, back later02:27
matthew_pluto, also the solution (maybe): overburn02:27
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max_im getting no sound in firefox, i go to youtube and theres no sound on any videos, no sound on any embedded videos, anyone have this problem and if so how can i fix it?02:28
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crimsunmax_: are you using flashplugin-nonfree from -backports?02:29
max_its always worked before, it jut stopped today, i got my flash fromautomatix02:30
crimsunerm02:30
crimsunhow does automatix install it?02:30
max_i dont know02:30
max_but flash has always worked02:30
max_untill today02:30
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crimsunand what version of the plugin is active according to about:plugins?02:31
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max_its a firefox problem, i can hear sound in konqueror02:32
Schuenemannisn't not having root account less safe, in case of having only one account?02:32
crimsunSchuenemann: it's no more or less safe imo.02:32
Schuenemanncrimsun: I mean if that account's password is stolen, so is root02:32
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crimsunSchuenemann: which is no different from root's password being stolen.02:33
Schuenemannyeah02:33
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crimsunwe can't prevent a person from doing stupid things.02:33
crimsunwe can only attempt to persuade people to follow better security practices.02:33
Schuenemannbut I can't see not having root as a better security practice02:34
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crimsunthen activate the root account.02:34
CaBlGuYgreetings and salutations.  o/02:34
Schuenemannif they share the same password then it can be even worse02:34
matthew_!sudo | Schuenemann02:35
ubotuSchuenemann: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.02:35
SchuenemannI already read that02:35
matthew_!root | Schuenemann02:35
matthew_!root | Schuenemann02:35
matthew_hmm02:35
latinisudo su02:35
matthew_!root | Schuenemann02:35
matthew_ok, nvm02:35
CaBlGuYI've froze up twice in the past couple days and just a short while ago, I rebooted...  any ideas about any bugs n stuff??02:35
crimsunSchuenemann: it's no worse and no better.02:35
Schuenemannthen why it's different?02:36
crimsunagain, it's not a matter of "worse" or "better".02:36
CaBlGuY*rebooted unwillingly..02:36
matthew_CaBlGuY, could be a RAM problem.02:36
CaBlGuYMathew02:36
gon!xorg02:36
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:36
crimsunif you're silly enough to use weak passwords, then it has nothing to do with whether sudo or su is used.02:36
latinialguem fala portugues?02:36
matthew_CaBlGuY, check out memtest86 to test your RAM02:36
gon!pt02:36
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.02:36
CaBlGuYok..02:36
daniel77alguien que ayude en espaol02:36
daniel77spanish?02:36
Sannenight all02:36
Schuenemann!es | daniel7702:36
ubotudaniel77: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.02:36
latinisuport for Kubutu in portgues ?02:37
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Schuenemann!br | latini02:37
ubotulatini: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.02:37
CaBlGuYwhat about any issues with Nvidea drivers..  I saw somethihng about that not to long ago..02:37
matthew_CaBlGuY, whoops, I meant memtest86+02:37
Schuenemanncrimsun: this is in that sudoroot website:02:37
SchuenemannIt avoids the "I can do anything" interactive login by default -you will be prompted for a password before major changes can happen, which should make you think about the consequences of what you are doing.02:37
matthew_CaBlGuY, I don't know anything about nvidia drivers...02:37
matthew_lol02:37
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crimsunSchuenemann: sure.02:37
CaBlGuYHmmm02:37
latiniuboto: entedi . mas la ele ajudam kubuntu ou so unbutu ?02:37
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Schuenemannthe model that uses root does that too02:38
CaBlGuYlemme check the ram although, IM pretty sure it's fine..02:38
CaBlGuYbrb02:38
matthew_latini, ubotu es un roboto.02:38
gonlatini: ubotu is a bot02:38
crimsunSchuenemann: I have no idea why you're attempting to discuss this. The developers have made up their minds.02:38
latiniok02:38
gonyou can ask for help in anu channel about Kubuntu or Ubuntu02:38
matthew_Schuenemann, it also reduces the chance of you leaving a root terminal open.02:38
daniel77thy02:38
daniel77!esp02:38
daniel77!esp02:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about esp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:38
daniel77!es02:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about esp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:38
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.02:38
Schuenemannwell, nevermind02:39
matthew_latini, necesitas ir al #kubuntu-es02:39
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matthew_latini, como esta: /join #kubuntu-es02:39
daniel77m02:39
KChatterHi. I want to know whether or not I should upgrade to Feisty Fawn when it comes out in April. What's the difference between Feisty and Kubuntu Edgy?02:39
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novalisiwconfig says i'm connected to my wifi network. why does /proc/net/wireless say 0 under link?02:41
KChatterHi. I want to know whether or not I should upgrade to Feisty Fawn when it comes out in April. What's the difference between Feisty and Kubuntu Edgy?02:41
KChatterIs there anyone here that knows about future versions of Kubuntu?02:42
crimsunplease see the wiki.02:42
Linux_GaloreKChatter: whats do you need to know ?02:42
KChatterLinux_Galore:  Hi. I want to know whether or not I should upgrade to Feisty Fawn when it comes out in April. What's the difference between Feisty and Kubuntu Edgy?02:42
matthew_KChatter, all I know about feisty is that it will implement the UpStart system of booting, which is supposed to make startup faster.02:42
crimsunEdgy already uses upstart.02:43
crimsunplease see the wiki; search for feistyreleasenotes02:43
gon!compile02:43
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)02:43
KChatterLinux_Galore: ok.02:43
Linux_GaloreKChatter: basically its an update, nothing I would call major02:43
matthew_crimsun, yeah, but it's implentation in edgy is limited to emulation of the initv system.02:43
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crimsunmatthew_: no it's not.02:44
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matthew_crimsun, oh.02:44
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crimsunmatthew_: it simply wasn't made manditory (i.e., policy) that main packages using initscripts follow upstart syntax02:44
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crimsunmandatory02:45
matthew_crimsun, oh, ok02:45
crimsunsheesh, my typing is out the window02:45
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alex_Hey can somebody tell me ,why when i put apt-get to install my NVidia grafics driver ,it install also new kernel ,and after restart crash my system ???02:46
Linux_GaloreI may wait a bit before updating to feisty for the stable version of kde 4.0 to be optioned02:46
alex_please help. i'm installing it for a 7th time02:46
fyrmedicare they timing feist to coincide with KDE 4.0?02:47
alex_before a month maybe driver was different and it doesen't updates my kernel or wat ?02:47
alex_it doesen't work !02:47
Linux_Galorealex_: how to you know its crashed02:47
Linux_Galorealex_: how so not working02:47
alex_see ,it's loading something02:48
MrVincentHey do you guys think MSI NX7600GS will be supported soon? I can't seem to have it work02:48
Linux_Galorealex_: do you get the command line02:48
alex_but it's unusable for me02:48
alex_yes i get02:48
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Linux_Galorealex_: then its not crashed, thats basically "is linux" the rest is just rubbish on top02:48
alex_yes i know i understand ,but before a month i just02:49
Vuenhey guys, how do i configure some of the graphical effects in kde on ubuntu? for example i want to turn off fading menus, etc02:49
alex_do it in the sam way an02:49
alex_it was working02:49
Linux_Galorealex_: swap back to the nv driver by editing the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file02:49
Linux_Galorealex_: it will boot back to a graphical desktop02:50
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alex_no it isn't02:50
alex_and it installs new kernel in grub too02:50
alex_pff02:50
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alex_i'm obssed02:50
Linux_Galorealex_: you can select the old kernel02:50
Linux_Galorestill02:50
alex_how02:50
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alex_o yea02:50
gon!info kcolourpaint02:51
alex_but and the old giving me a command line02:51
ubotuPackage kcolourpaint does not exist in any distro I know02:51
Linux_Galorealex_: edit the xorg.conf file02:51
Linux_Galorealex_: change the driver from nvidia to nv02:51
alex_ok ,but i need to you Nvidia driver02:51
fyrmedicalex_, grub gives you the option to choose which kernel you are going to use. just use your down arrow to pick it.02:51
Linux_Galorealex_: no you dont02:51
alex_my02:52
Linux_Galorealex_: there is a default driver called nv02:52
alex_screen is going 1 inch in right02:52
alex_if i'm not using this driver02:52
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Linux_Galorealex_: why do I bother telling you anything you just keep telling me whats wrong02:52
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alex_yep02:52
alex_can you help me or not ?02:53
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max_does anyone else have the problem of firefox not playing sound in flash files02:53
Linux_Galorealex_: change nvidia driver to nv in the xorg.conf file02:53
alex_i understand everything what u saying but02:53
alex_i try it02:53
alex_i'm  doing it from a 5 hours02:53
Linux_Galorealex_: nv is the default nvidia driver02:53
alex_I KNOW02:53
Linux_Galorefor xorg02:53
alex_it02:54
alex_writing me no Screen02:54
Linux_Galorealex_: what nvidia card do you have02:54
killermachhow do I get apt-get to install with no dependencies?  I get this when trying to to apt-get ivtv0.4-utils: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6) but 2.3.6-0ubuntu20 is to be installed02:54
alex_nv 2 mx or something like this02:54
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Linux_Galorealex_: I suspect you installed the 87** driver, it wont work with that card you need the old one02:55
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alex_<killermach>  download .deb file02:55
alex_and02:55
jlowellhey folks, dvd drive will not automount... is there anything I can do?02:55
alex_dpkg -help02:55
Linux_Galorealex_: wrong driver thats why its jamming02:55
Linux_Galorealex_: you cant use the "new" driver with such an ancient card02:55
alex_ok! nice02:55
alex_how can i install the old one?02:56
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Linux_Galorealex_: edit the xorg.conf file boot back to the desktop by running startx then run adept and intall the old driver02:56
killermachalex_: thanks.. I'm trying to get a pvr-350 working in ubuntu, being new to debian-ware isn't a plus :)02:56
jerpit's the nvidia legacy driver02:56
alex_what's the name02:57
alex_of driver02:57
jerpit's the nvidia legacy driver02:57
Linux_Galorealex_: nvidia-legacy02:57
alex_what i need to write in apt-get install ???02:57
alex_E: Couldn't find package nvidia-legacy02:57
alex_now what ?02:57
Linux_Galorealex_: your not listening at all are you02:58
Linux_Galorealex_: third time lucky02:58
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alex_yes i'm listening02:58
Linux_Galorealex_: edit the xorg.conf file boot back to the desktop by running startx then run adept and intall the old driver02:58
alex_i'm now on kde ,i boot it normaly.02:58
Linux_Galorealex_: then just run adept and install the legacy driver02:58
alex_but my screen is steel one inch in right02:58
alex_it's ugly !02:59
Linux_Galorealex_: who cares thats peripheral02:59
alex_yes but it's 65 Htz02:59
matthew_alex_, you can change that using the buttons on your monitor!02:59
Linux_Galorealex_: run adept and install the legacy driver02:59
jlowellanyone?02:59
alex_its bad for eyes02:59
Linux_Galorealex_: run adept and install the legacy driver02:59
jlowell dvd drive will not automount... is there anything I can do?02:59
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Schuenemannis there any partition program included in kubuntu? I want to get rid of my suse partition03:00
alex_i'm runing it03:00
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novalismitsoya> wims, yes, but usualy an older version.add the winehq repo instead03:00
novalis<bashir> hey has anyone tried an alternative to natalius, i think it is a little slow...03:00
novalis<novalis> iwconfig says i'm connected to my wifi network. why does /proc/net/wireless say 0 under link?03:00
Linux_Galorealex_: once thats done check to make sure nv is changed back to nvidia then press ctrl alt backspace03:00
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Linux_Galorealex_: it will work perfectly03:01
Linux_Galorealex_: did for me :-)03:01
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jlowellhello anyone??03:02
alex_om i'm now applying changes ,i will write also in xorg.conf03:03
alex_buttons of my monitor ,yes ... i can change it ,but it's better03:03
Linux_Galorealex_: yes make sure xorg.conf is set to nvidia for the driver03:03
alex_to don't do it every time when i boot windows03:03
alex_yes yes i know03:03
alex_:)03:03
Linux_Galorealex_: then just log out and then press ctrl alt backspace03:03
alex_10x03:03
alex_a lot03:03
jlowellI feel totally invisible03:03
alex_you r great man03:03
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alex_ok 10q\\03:04
Linux_Galorejlowell: and03:04
jlowelland it sucks03:05
Schuenemannis there any partition program included in kubuntu? I want to get rid of my suse partition03:05
jlowellhey folks, dvd drive will not automount... is there anything I can do? actually it wont even manually mount unless I reboot the machine with it in the drive03:05
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: gparted or qtparted03:05
matthew_!attitude | jlowell03:05
ubotujlowell: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines03:05
SchuenemannLinux_Galore: it is installed by default?03:06
Linux_Galorejlowell: how do you mean "wont auto mount", is it a data dvd ?03:06
jlowellLinux_Galore: no it's a movie dvd03:06
Linux_Galorejlowell: thats an iso you dont mount it03:06
Linux_Galorejlowell: you just play it03:06
alex_agaIN problem03:07
alex_i run it under adept03:07
jlowellLinux_Galore: ok, in that case, it doesnt play, what I meant I guess is it doesnt show up on the desktop and is un[layable unless I reboot with the dvd in the drive03:07
alex_and now adept start downloading 1st of03:07
alex_new different kernel03:07
alex_my is 2.5.something03:07
Linux_Galorejlowell: it wont show anything, you just start kaffeine and play it03:07
Linux_Galorejlowell: its not actually a file system03:08
alex_and adept downloading for me 2.6.***03:08
jlowellLinux_Galore: yes I know, it will not play unless I reboot the machine with the dvd in the drive...03:08
Linux_Galorejlowell: strange03:08
Linux_Galorejlowell: always unount it  is umount /media/cdrom03:08
Linux_Galoreie*03:09
jlowellsorry?03:09
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Linux_Galorejlowell: so if you boot without the dvd on the drive it wont see it ??03:09
Linux_Galorein*03:10
jlowellLinux_Galore: thats the only time it sees it, if I put the dvd in after the machine is booted then it will not see it03:10
Linux_Galorejlowell: well it wont because its not actually a file system03:11
Linux_Galorejlowell: nothing to mount03:11
jlowell... Linux_Galore I didnt say mount... I said see03:11
jlowellthere was a fix for this somewhere where one had to reinstall hal or something03:12
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Linux_Galorejlowell: whats in your fstab file03:12
Schuenemannis it mandatory to have a swap partition for every linux partition?03:12
SchuenemannI have suse and kubuntu and only 1 swap03:12
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Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: thats normal03:13
fyrmedicjlowell: have you tried another app like Totem or others? I haven't had a lot of luck with kaffeine.03:13
Schuenemannwhat is normal? not having a swap?03:13
SchuenemannI don't know whose swap is that03:13
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: you really only need one swap partition per machine, even with multiple installs03:13
Schuenemannhmmm03:13
Schuenemannhow big should it be?03:14
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: its just a virtual memory partition03:14
Schuenemannit has 760 MB03:14
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: usually 2.5 times your ram03:14
SchuenemannI thought I needed that virtual memory for every partition03:14
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: no03:14
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: it gets flushed when you reboot so why do you need a separate one for each install03:15
SchuenemannI don't know03:15
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: think of swap as "ram", do you need seperate ram for each install ?03:16
SchuenemannI know what swap is heh03:16
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: of course not03:16
Theorywell, if you were to have multiple installs and want to hibernate them...03:16
SchuenemannI already had that swap when I installed kubuntu03:16
Schuenemannthat's why it didn't ask me to create one?03:16
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: suspect that may be true03:17
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Schuenemannok, thanx03:17
joakimcan anyone help get win32codecs to work?  I've installed but get only sound, no video..03:17
Theorywhat codec is the video?03:17
Schuenemannis it really 2,5 times the ram? if I had 2 GB RAM, I'd need to "waste" 5 GB of my HD?03:17
Linux_Galorejoakim: may be nothing to do with win32codecs03:18
joakimgalore: what then?03:18
Linux_Galorejoakim: win32codecs will only help with "Microsoft codecs" nothing else ie avi has nothing to do with win32codecs03:18
joakimlinux_galore: what then?  not sure where to look03:18
Schuenemannwhat were you trying to play?03:19
joakimoh.... star trek voyager clip...03:19
Linux_Galorejoakim: I dont know what your trying to play03:19
joakimavi file..03:19
Linux_Galorejoakim: have you installed the avi stuff03:19
Schuenemannyou need libxine-extracodecs, I believe03:20
joakimlinux_galore: avi stuff? dunno, it plays the sound allright. "file blah.avi" says: RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 576 x 432, 23.98 fps, video: XviD, audio: Dolby AC3 (stereo, 48000 Hz)03:20
Linux_Galorejoakim: most avi files dont use window codecs03:20
joakimschuenemann: ok will try that03:20
Linux_Galorejoakim: aaah xvid , nothing to do with windows03:21
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SchuenemannLinux_Galore: can qtparted be used to merge 2 partitions?03:21
joakimlinux_galore: ok... what do I need to do?03:21
Schuenemanndeleting one of them, of course03:21
Linux_Galorejoakim: what are you using to play the file03:21
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Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: yes03:22
joakimlinux_galore: kaffeine03:22
Linux_Galorejoakim: ok kaffeine by default uses xine so go into adept an install all the xine extra bits, you may also want to install mplayer too so you can swap kaffeine over to mplayer when things dont work (its in the kaffeine settings menu)03:23
Theory(you may need to enable the multiverse repository)03:24
Linux_Galoreaah yeah03:24
joakimlinux_galore: ok will do, thanks! :-)   (ps. think I tried to install mplayer but couldnt find in adept)03:24
Linux_Galorejoakim: make sure multiverse is enabled03:24
joakimwhat is multiverse?03:24
apokryphosjoakim: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic03:24
Linux_Galorejoakim: optional repository03:24
moparisthebestis there any way to tell what kind of processor and ram a computer has from the command line?03:24
joakimok thanks I'll look it up in the FAQ and see if I can figure it out03:24
Schuenemann!multiverse03:24
joakimthanks !!!03:24
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu03:24
joakimthanks again!03:25
Linux_Galorejoakim: start adept end then look in -> View -> Manage Repositories03:25
Linux_Galoreand*03:25
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Linux_Galorejoakim: look for the multiverse line an enable it03:26
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eXCeSSBipolar: testing this03:27
eXCeSSok works03:27
eXCeSSswet03:27
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Linux_Galorejoakim: make sure libxvidcore is installed03:28
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Linux_Galorejoakim: might want to also install vlc that way you have 3 options at least to play files03:29
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joakimlinux_galore: ok I'm on it.  there were no multiverse line but I found a universe line and added multiverse after universe03:29
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Linux_Galorejoakim: ok add this line in adept03:30
dennisterhey ppl :) my sound is working, but I need someone's help to fully understand it b4 I can go further with surround and voip03:30
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Linux_Galorejoakim:  are you on edgy ?03:31
Linux_Galorejoakim: deb    http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu  edgy  universe03:31
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geniiAnyone comile Conexant HSF/HCF modem drivers successfully on Edgy yet?03:32
Linux_Galorejoakim: if not change the name edgy to dapper03:32
dennisteranyone for help understanding sound?03:32
Linux_Galoregenii: you mean the restricted none free must pay to use drivers03:32
joakimlinux_galore: It's 6.10 don't know whether that's edgy or dapper03:33
crimsundennister: what do you need?03:33
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Linux_Galorejoakim: thats edgy, you will see that when you look in the Manager section in adept all the lines have "edgy" on them03:34
dennistermy sound is working fine, but since i plugged in the mike now there's a second sound driver/system03:34
dennisterwhat should the master of Kmix be set to?03:34
crimsundennister: whichever you want.03:34
joakimok03:34
crimsundennister: your second (mic) is hw:103:34
|WAL|having troubles getting perl in apache working, when I load a page, firefox wants to save the page instead of load it03:34
dennistersorry...wrong question; mixer is set to nvidia, or i can change it to the mike, but there are so many choices underneath...03:35
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dennisteri want both systems, nvidia and mike, to work instead of one or the other03:35
crimsundennister: so change it to the one you want.03:35
crimsundennister: they do both work.03:35
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Linux_Galore|WAL|: thats nothing to do with apache03:36
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dennisterif i set it to the mike, then the speakers don't work; if i set it to the speakers, mike doesn't work03:36
|WAL|Linux_Galore: how so?03:36
genii_Arg my home connection keeps losing sync tonight. I *need* to switch my upstream provider03:36
Linux_Galore|WAL|: how firefox deals with set file types is set "in firefox" not apache03:36
genii_btw Don't pay for DSL from EI Catalyst it sucks :)03:37
dennisterobviously, if i want to use voip, i need both to work03:37
genii_Linux_Galore There is source code from Mark Boucher (the guy who now runs the "pay for more than 14.4 drivers at linuxant.com" which compiles under dapper. No speed cap. But no compile under Edgy yet03:37
Linux_Galore|WAL|: firefox will download anything it doesnt know what to do with03:37
genii_^ In case it got lost before I boke connection03:37
joakimlinux_galore: it works!!!!!!!! phorking great stuff.  thanks a lot :-)03:37
joakimlinux_galore: I needed xine-extracodecs03:38
|WAL|Linux_Galore: this problem isn't limited to firefox..03:38
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Linux_Galore|WAL|: of course not03:38
Schuenemann|WAL|: is the content-type set to html or a format a browser would open?03:38
joakimgood day everyone03:39
dennistercrimsun: they don't both work, it's one or the other only03:39
geniijoakim Have a good one :)03:39
|WAL|Schuenemann: are you speaking of inside Firefox or Apache?03:39
Schuenemannapache03:39
|WAL|Schuenemann: I didn't add anything except the loadmodule directive into apache2.conf03:40
Schuenemannwhat are you trying to open?03:40
|WAL|a .pl page03:40
Linux_Galore|WAL|: most browser havent got a clue what a pl page is03:40
SchuenemannI never worked with perl, but every resource that uses HTTP has a content-type which describes what that resource is03:41
BluesKaj.pl , polish ?03:41
Schuenemannperl03:41
|WAL|Schuenemann: is there something I can do on the server side to make it run the script like php?03:41
BluesKajperl doesn't tell me much either ...i don't knoe about computer lingos03:42
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BluesKajknow03:42
Linux_Galore|WAL|: with browser it has to be markup, if not then it depends on either a plugin layer or settings to define how the browser manages that file type03:42
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Linux_Galore|WAL|: basically apache is just a fancy file server03:42
Schuenemann|WAL|: that would be in the .pl page03:42
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geniiOK can some op release nick genii? It is ghosted03:43
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|WAL|I have mod_perl installed.. I was under the understanding that it works like php and runs scripts on the server like .php03:43
Linux_Galoregenii: you can do that yourself03:43
Linux_Galoregenii: enter  /msg nickserv ghost username password03:43
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geniiAh OK03:44
geniihx03:44
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Schuenemann|WAL|: does that happen with every page?03:44
|WAL|Schuenemann: every .pl page03:44
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Linux_Galore|WAL|: perl just allows you to glue things together ie mysql with user input etc via apache03:45
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Linux_Galore|WAL|: perl doesnt actually run on the client side, server only03:45
geniiMy DSL keeps breaking tonight. I think I will go into work just to avoid banging my head off the wall all night with disconnects03:45
|WAL|Linux_Galore: I'm aware of that, that's what I'm trying to do.. run it server side03:46
Linux_Galore|WAL|: if the browser is trying to download the file then its not on the server side03:46
geniiSee you all ~30 mins03:46
Schuenemann|WAL|: java, for example, would have a line like <%@ page contentType="text/html" %>03:46
|WAL|I'm well aware of how this works, the problem is that I have http://blah.com/blah.pl.. I want the .pl script to run on the server side (it generates markup).... but instead I get the option to save the file as text to the client side03:48
Schuenemannthat should be told in the .pl file03:49
|WAL|so I guess I need something more or less like this "AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .phtml .php3" but for perl03:49
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Schuenemann|WAL|: http://www.httprevealer.com/usage_perl.htm03:51
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brunoHow can I Enter to #Progressive Chanel? what i have to do to enter?03:53
Schuenemann /join #progressive03:53
brunoThanxs03:53
brunook, It works03:54
|WAL|Schuenemann: that's already in the file03:54
Schuenemannthat's very strange03:55
|WAL|Schuenemann: here in lies the problem03:56
Schuenemannit's set to text/html ?03:56
dennisterLinux_Galore: r u busy? u seem to know what ur doing03:57
dennisteri still need help sorting out different sound options :(03:58
crimsundidn't I explain it?03:58
|WAL|Schuenemann: yep.. in fact, just to ensure it wasn't my fault, I used the hello world from the example you gave03:58
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dennistercrimsun: no, sorry, although i appreciated you trying to help03:59
dennisterthe two sound systems do NOT both work, it's one or the other only03:59
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crimsundennister: if they both work separately, they have to both work simultaneously.03:59
crimsunthere's simply no other way.03:59
Schuenemann|WAL|: I'm sorry I have no idea... maybe a perl or apache forum would be a better source04:00
dennisterperhaps if I explain this system?04:00
|WAL|Schuenemann: ok, thanks for trying, I like to check here for stuff because you guys are usually fast, friendly and the best :)04:00
Schuenemann:D04:00
|WAL|Schuenemann: ttyl04:01
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dennisterwhen i install, i purposely unplug mike (ak sound system), the onboard 7.1 sound is the nvidia ck804, kmix is best set to ck80404:01
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Schuenemannhow do I merge two partitions using qtparted? I have ext3 (the one I'm using) and a free one04:01
Schuenemanndo they need to be "neighbours" ?04:01
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dennisterbut all i get is stereo, i want to be able to use the mike, but sound recorder doesn't even work, so I'm sure my kmix settings are screwed04:02
dennisterwhat does pcm do, for instance?04:02
dennisterkmix documentation is very basic...not helping at all04:03
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Linux_Galoredennister: ask away04:04
dennisteri do NOT want to have to swtich the mixer from speakers to mike sound system for voip, as i will need output from speakers (ck804) at the same time as i use mike (ak...), not choosing one or the other04:05
Linux_Galoredennister: aaah sound, one of my personal hates with Linux04:05
Linux_Galoredennister: although there is some work being done to fix that04:05
dennisterit's kmix settings that's the problem here :(04:05
Linux_Galoredennister: kmix is just a front end04:06
Linux_Galoreusually to alsamixer04:06
SchuenemannLinux_Galore: hey, can't qtparted create ext3 partitions? I only see ext2 as option04:07
dennisterI feel i should leave the mixer settings to ck804, but get the mike to use that instead of ak......and i should use alsamixer for the onboard nvidia 7.1 sound system04:07
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: ext3 is ext3 with journaling04:07
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: ext2 is ext3 with journaling04:07
Linux_Galorelol04:07
Linux_Galoreaaaaaaargh04:07
Linux_Galorebugger it04:07
Schuenemannthe other way around?04:07
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: just set it to ext204:08
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: yeah04:08
Schuenemannhow do I merge partitions anyway? I deleted suse's04:08
dennisterbut what about iec958 playback ac97? that's nvdia's software, and what does PCM do?04:08
lotusleafSchuenemann: the gparted livecd is nice04:08
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: rename both the same04:08
SchuenemannI would like to merge my ext3 (kubuntu) with that one04:08
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: should automatically merge them04:09
Schuenemannthe label?04:09
Linux_Galoreyes04:09
crimsundennister: the former is a register switch for the spdif controlling which/whether the pcm or mic is output04:09
crimsundennister: the latter is nominally your wave output04:09
crimsunthese abbreviations are on wikipedia.04:09
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crimsunwe've also documented them on alsa.opensrc.org04:10
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Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: Im running zfs on my nexenta machine and its funny you can resize merge etc on the fly04:10
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Schuenemannwhat is zfs?04:10
Schuenemannthat is possible using partition magic in windows04:10
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: a file system created by sun04:10
dennistergreat PCM=wave, iec958=spdif, which i'm not using at all...great, a link...:) always like more documentation04:10
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: 128 bit file system too04:11
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crimsundennister: of course you're using them both.04:11
SchuenemannLinux_Galore: how do I rename?04:11
crimsundennister: if they're enumerated, they're there for a reason.04:11
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: lots of extra options like data recovery etc04:11
dennisterenumerated? define pls?04:11
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: you cant, not supported in Linux yet only in Opensolaris and BSD04:11
Schuenemannbut you just told me renaming would merge them04:12
Linux_Galorenexenta = opensolaris04:12
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: ooh, renaming your partitions should, just name them the same, usually /04:12
Schuenemannhow to name them?04:12
SchuenemannI don't see that in qtparted04:13
Linux_GaloreSchuenemann: it should then try merge them realising they are the same name04:13
Schuenemannthat option*04:13
SchuenemannLinux_Galore: but how do I rename?04:13
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connhi, I'm trying to compile gtk+2, but it's throwing an error with freetype, it hasn't added the include path to /usr/include/freetype2 - but it DOES exist, how can I fix?04:32
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kerwonzhow can i enable the synaptics for xorg???04:47
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smoothieskerwonz u want synaptic updater right04:48
smoothiesur using kubuntu edgy right04:48
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smoothiesanyway i think u just do sudo apt-get install synaptics to get synaptics working04:49
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smoothieswhy is my desktop font, stuff like the word "trash" under the trash icon, all have a thin white border around each letter04:50
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dennisterto heck with it, i'm installing more alsaplayers...kmix tells u almost nothing04:54
kerwonzsmoothies: nop, synaptics for touchpad04:54
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dennisteroh great...touchpad...i worked so hard to get rid of it :)04:55
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tarmathhello04:55
dennisterkerwonz: have u tried searching in synaptic for the xorg file u need?04:56
tarmathi have some strange issue with kaffeine... it wont start anymore... and it worked yesterday04:56
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tarmathok nevermind it started :|04:57
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IKE2000hi!guys merry Christmas to you all05:00
kakaltomerry jingley to you too =)05:00
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IKE2000he he thank05:01
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IKE2000can anyone tell me where i can download software packages for kubuntu05:03
dennisteri don't think i'll ever get this sound stuff sorted out :(05:03
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daniel77how to change kubuntu's language?05:04
daniel77i want it in spanish :D05:04
IKE2000will you guys just give me the answer05:06
dennisterIKE2000: K-menu--->system--->synaptic or adept05:06
daniel77ok i'm adept05:07
dennisteri was typing u know, no need to get impatient so fast05:07
daniel77as root05:07
daniel77sorry05:07
IKE2000okay what if i want to download it sperately not from the adept05:07
dennisterdaniel77: i wasn't snapping back at u, that was directed at another person05:07
daniel77yes now i know it05:08
daniel77i do not read oke2000 :S05:08
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daniel77sorri i'll wait05:08
IKE2000comeon please05:08
dennisterIKE2000: that answer is huge and long...don't recommend it05:08
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dennisterdaniel77: go to k-menu--->system settings--->general--->regional and language05:10
dennisterIKE2000: what do you want to download?05:10
matthew_IKE2000, you can use synaptic if you don't like adept05:10
matthew_IKE2000, sudo apt-get install synaptic05:11
dennisterhe doesn't want to use either05:11
matthew_oh, and IKE2000 ?05:11
IKE2000anything for kubuntu05:11
matthew_!attitude | IKE200005:11
ubotuIKE2000: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines05:11
matthew_dennister, oh, sorry, just walked in...lol05:11
daniel77i found regional and accessibilliti05:11
dennistermatthew: it's ok :)05:11
IKE2000oh i'm sorry if i got intense05:11
matthew_IKE2000, intense? no. you got rude. But that's just me.05:12
daniel77there are no spanish to choose, only english :S where can i download the spanish pack05:12
dennisterIKE2000: your questions give me the impression your a newbie, which is fine, but you should always be careful about downloading anything not from the adept or synaptic repos...some are dangerous, others are very complicated and difficult to install05:12
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dennisterdaniel77: synaptic or adept05:13
daniel77ok, i opened adept... what's the keyword to search05:13
IKE2000yeah you got it i'm a complete newbie,i just intalled kubuntu yeterday05:14
dennisterIKE2000: i'm a 5-mth-old newbie, but I have mythtv working, which is difficult, and i've learned to listen to people when they say the safe things for kubuntu are in adept or synaptic05:14
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dennisterdaniel77: u can try spanish or language05:14
matthew_IKE2000, don't worry about being a n00b...everyone started somewhere. It took me about a year before I was super comfy w/ linux.05:15
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dennisterIKE2000: ur not my bro, are u?05:15
IKE2000i guess not05:15
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dennisterin toronto? he saw mine on xmas day, was interested, and a very intense guy :)05:15
daniel77what's better adept or synaptic?05:16
dennisterdaniel77: hard to say...matter of preference really05:16
dennisterIKE2000: what do you want to do with ur new kubuntu installation; what do u want to use ur pc for?05:16
daniel77wow... 35mb the spanish language05:17
dennisteryep...those language files are big :)05:17
dennisterso are some of the font packages05:17
daniel77:)05:17
daniel77what do you think is best, kde or gnome?05:18
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IKE2000actually nothing i just want to get know about linx05:18
daniel77i just installed kubuntu-desktop from ubuntu05:18
dennisterIKE2000: have you got multimedia working yet? i could walk you through a couple of packages you'll probably want05:18
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dennistereg. do you have mp3 files you want to play?05:19
IKE2000nope tell me how05:19
IKE2000yeah05:20
dennisterlol...amarok is a fav...check out to make sure u already have it by K-menu--->multimedia05:20
dennisterand start it up05:20
matthew_IKE2000, or kaffeine05:20
Alter-Egok, ihave a usb wireless adapter that i have just found out i can install in kubuntu, but does anyone know of a way to do ad-hoc ?05:20
Alter-Egoi would like to ad-hoc my tower to my laptop05:20
nicolas_can someone understand this: i got an amd k6-2 300, when i put 2 x 512 of ram it sees 512mb total, when i put 2 x 128mb it sees 128mb total, but when i put 1 x 512 it sees 256mb05:21
matthew_nicolas_, is your motherboard pretty old? how fast is the processor?05:21
nicolas_300mhz05:22
dennisternicolas_: that's your cpu speed, not your motherboard05:22
dennisteroops, sorry05:22
nicolas_oh..05:22
nicolas_is there any proc file that can tell me this ?05:23
daniel77do you have downclocked your pc?05:23
dennistermatthew_ was asking u for your procesor speed, and u gave the right answer05:23
nicolas_daniel77: no its the default bios reseted to default settings05:23
matthew_nicolas, your motherboard DIMM slots may not support the type of RAM that you've got in it. Basically, when you put a new type of RAM into a machine that doesn't know about it, your motherboard my only detect half of the memory.05:23
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nicolas_hrm...05:24
matthew_may only detect...05:24
nicolas_so you think if i put a single 128mb of ram it'll see only 64mb05:24
nicolas_...thats really bad05:24
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nicolas_my old cyrix 200mhz can take the whole 512mb05:25
matthew_nicolas_, possibly. you may need to see about getting older RAM that is supported by your motherboard.05:25
matthew_nicolas_, there may also be an option concerning this in your bios.05:25
IKE2000wherei can download codecs for paly commercial formats05:25
nicolas_hrm ill check it out05:26
nicolas_thx05:26
matthew_nicolas_, np05:26
matthew_happy to help05:26
matthew_IKE2000, look at my previous conversation with nicolas_ . See how easy it was when we're both polite and say please?05:26
dennisterIKE2000: ok, you want a package called w32codecs for mp3 files...are you using a 32 bit os, or 64?05:26
daniel77nicolas_05:26
daniel77i'm using a spanish kde05:27
matthew_IKE2000, if you want to play mp3's you need to install mpg12305:27
daniel77THANKS :)05:27
daniel77A LOT (X100)05:27
IKE2000it's 3205:27
dennisterok, and dapper or edgy?05:27
IKE2000dapper05:27
HailandKilldapper05:28
HailandKillI mean.. I've already upgraded and downgraded once today, I'm sticking to dapper for a bit longer :s05:29
dennisterIKE2000: ok, go to this link and download w32codecs onto your desktop...then come back here: http://seveas.theplayboymansion.net/seveas/dists/dapper-seveas/all/ I'll help u install it outside of synaptic or adept05:29
dennisterthat's one that's NOT available in most of the repos05:29
IKE2000okay thanks guys i've gotto go now.merry christmas05:30
dennisterlol...that has GOT to be my bro05:31
dennisterall that and he leaves before he gets anywhere...heheheh05:32
Whopperlol05:32
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matthew_man, he was ungrateful...except for the whole "thanks" part, lol05:33
dennisterwell, i've learned to be extremely stubborn...it gets me places when it comes to linux05:33
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dennisterwell, if it was my bro, there are reasons for it...my bro's actually very sweet and very appreciative, just has troubles expressing himself so real positive feelings actually come across05:34
dennisteradhd could be a factor too...they're very impatient at times05:34
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dennisteralways on the go-go-go!05:35
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dennisteri just slap him upside the head :) in big-sister fashion05:36
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HailandKillquick question... it's 4:30am... Konqueror: to access a samba share I type smb://<host..blahblahblah>, to access an NFS share I.....?05:37
dennisterno...samba and nfs are 2 different file-shring programs05:37
HailandKillYes.. I know.05:37
HailandKillSamba was simply an example.05:37
dennisteroh, ok...smb://localhost...blah..blah05:38
HailandKillBut to access the NFS share?05:38
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dennistersorry, if NFS is what u ant, i don't use it, don't know05:38
dennistermatthew_: ?05:39
HailandKillWell, I could do this with samba, but I haven't been able to get it to automatically mount nicely! It's always asking me for a password at boot.05:40
matthew_huh?05:40
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HailandKillmy fstab reads //<host>/<share> /mnt/shared smb username=name,password=pass 0 005:40
dennistermatthew_: HailandKill wants to know the line in konqueror to access an NFS share?05:40
dennisterdo u know NFS to help him?05:41
matthew_dennister, nope, nothing....sorry05:42
dennisterk05:42
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HailandKilldennister: do you automatically mount your shares with fstab?05:42
dennisterHailandKill: which security level are u using in samba05:42
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dennisterI automatically mount all of my partitions in fstab, not the shares05:43
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HailandKillthe folder is set to public, if that's what you mean.05:43
dennisterI also use the simplest security level possible with samba, as we're just two ppl, 2 pc's at the moment...no, that's not what i mean05:44
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dennisterdifferent secruity levels are share, user, server, domain, ADS05:45
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adwaithello everyone05:45
HailandKillSomeone else acually set the share up... I'm just looking at it with right click=>properties... the security tab doesn't seem to say much05:45
adwaitcould someone please tell me, where do i find the recieved files in kopete?05:45
dennisterHailandKill: go to terminal and type in: kcontrol05:45
HailandKilldennister: done.05:46
dennisternot me adwait, sorry...i don't use it05:46
dennisterHailandKill: ok, go to internet & network, then select samba05:46
dennisterthat should tell you which secruity level ur using05:46
HailandKillok05:47
Alter-Egoi have a wireless adapter i would like to set up ad-hoc for my laptop05:47
Alter-Egoi have wmaster0 ... is this what i need for ad-hoc ?05:47
dennisternot sure Alter-Ego: can u wait a bit till someone more experienced with wireless comes back in?05:48
Alter-Egok05:48
dennisterHailandKill: so what security level is showing?05:48
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HailandKilldennister: I can't seem to find where it actually says.. there are a lot of security options though.05:49
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dennisteryes, is it greyed out? one of the different levels should have a circle in it05:50
dennisterit's right in the middle of Base Settings tab05:50
HailandKillAaah!05:50
HailandKillShare05:50
HailandKillI'm using Share.05:51
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familyis there a CLONE of pong for linux? or just the 3d crap?05:51
dennistergood, ok, now you can hit Administrator and type in your password05:51
HailandKillOne set ahead05:51
Linux_Galorefamily: just use mame  ie kxmame05:52
Linux_Galorefamily: you can play the "original" pong game with mame05:52
HailandKilldennister, one step ahead... even05:52
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dennisterHailandKill: you can play around with this now, but you have to be very careful...I'd recommend you actually edit the /etc/samba/smb.conf file by hand05:54
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dennisterI'll show you a very simple one I use by using pastebin05:55
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dennister!pastebin05:55
familyLinux_Galore: will that require me to provide the exe?05:55
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)05:55
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Linux_Galorefamily: no you just need to rom file, you can find them with google05:56
dennisterHailandKill: my /etc/samba/smb.conf file is now on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39116/ i never get asked for a username or password05:58
HailandKillOkay, thanks dennister. I'll give that a look over.05:58
dennisterany my shares are not in fstab...that's only for local drives...y welcome05:58
Linux_Galorefamily: http://www.rom-world.com/search/?q=pong&submit.x=0&submit.y=005:59
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dennisterLinux_Galore: perhaps you could help Alter-Ego with wireless?05:59
dennisterAlter-Ego: u still here?06:00
Alter-Egoyes06:00
dennisterLinux_Galore: seems to know a lot, perhaps u might get some help now with more ppl in the room06:00
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Linux_Galoredennister: not when it comes to wifi, I usually buy what I know works then use kwlan06:01
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dennisterwell blame urself for seeming so knowledgeable then :) sorry, thought u might06:01
Linux_Galoredennister: Ive got like 2 machines that use wifi, thats about my sum of experience, both were a no brainer06:02
dennisterAlter-Ego: well i have none using linux, just one xp machine, so ur ahead of me06:03
Linux_Galoredennister: although kwlan is nice because it helps you setup a connection06:03
dennisterAlter-Ego: have u tried kwlan?06:03
Alter-Egonope06:04
Alter-Egonos0Object::connect: No such slot KWlanTrayWin::setConnectionStatus(bool)06:05
Alter-EgoQObject::connect:  (sender name:   'unnamed')06:05
Alter-EgoQObject::connect:  (receiver name: 'KWlan')06:05
Alter-Egodrbeams@sasnak:~$ KCrash: Application 'kwlan' crashing...06:05
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daniel77stuppid micion and a legal fight06:06
daniel77jajaja06:06
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dennisterwell it seems u do have kwlan then...but i must bow out again...althought i just did a search in the community documentation and game up with tons of hits after a search for 'wifi'06:07
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Alter-Egowoot, got it with iwconfig06:08
dennisterdaniel77: micion?06:08
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Alter-Egohttp://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl8_iwconfi.htm06:08
dennistercongrats Alter-Ego :)06:08
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dennisterand two experts have just rejoined us :)06:09
dennisterhey Jucato, LeeJunFan :)06:09
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Jucatohi dennister06:09
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LeeJunFandennister: :)06:09
dennisteri'm still struggling with mike, sound...think mike is set only to different sound system :(06:10
dennistercan't use voip till i get mike and speakers working06:11
dennisterdon't understand this business at all06:11
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dennisterin the meantime i help other noobs where i can06:11
Alter-Egook, how do i enable dhcp on my wlan06:12
dennisteru fixed the other error messages? dhcp should be default, already switched on06:13
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smoothieshow do i make my kmenu panel bar on bottom look like window vista menu bar?06:16
dennistereek! why would u want that?06:16
karmikazelol06:16
smoothieslol i knew some people were gonna say that06:17
smoothiesthe answer is just because06:17
smoothiesanyone could help?06:17
Jucato!kbfx06:17
ubotukbfx: an alternative to K-Menu for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.9.1+20060611cvs-1 (edgy), package size 593 kB, installed size 1596 kB06:17
smoothiesthx Jucato =)06:17
Jucatosmoothies: use that ^^^06:17
smoothiesthx alot =)06:17
dennisterhey jucato: would you be able to help me understand alsa?06:18
Jucatodennister: I would if I could :)06:18
dennisterok, thought it was worth a try...:) ty anyway06:18
dennistermy mike is set to wrong sound system...don't know how to fix06:19
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dennisteri'm listening to my wonderful 3-cd set i got for xmas: Tom Waits Orphans06:21
dennisterBrawlers, Bawlers, and Bastards...06:21
smoothiesthey should have repos updated constantly so it's easier to install latest stuff, why don't they do that, i'm not complaining it's very easy to use already =) just wondering =)06:22
dennisterprobably cause of testing needs, and demands are higher for some packages than others06:23
smoothiestest06:23
smoothiesam i still connected?06:23
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dennisteryes smoothies06:24
smoothiesok, my web pages just stopped displaying things all of a sudden06:24
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smoothiesah it's back on =)06:24
dennisteri have horrible lags sometimes...but not lately06:24
smoothiescool06:24
Whopper_is there a way to install fixedsys?06:25
Jucato!sru06:25
ubotuStable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates for main and restricted, while https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/SRU is for universe and multiverse.06:25
Jucatohm...06:25
Jucatosmoothies: those links above talk a bit about updates and such06:27
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smoothiesJucato o ok, *checking them out*, and thx for the links06:27
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smoothiesis http://www.kbfx.org not working06:30
smoothiesjust wanted to double check06:30
Jucatooh this is lovely... lagging here and there...06:31
smoothieswait so the link above isn't working right06:32
smoothiesi couldn't get in06:32
smoothiesand get the latest kbfx =)06:32
smoothiesi should just wait till it comes on right06:32
smoothiesor is there an alternative way to get the latest kbfx06:32
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Jucatotry to check in http://www.kde-apps.org06:34
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ForgeAushmmm06:49
ForgeAusIi suck at linux!06:49
ForgeAuscan't seem to get anything to work right06:50
pwn4tt4ckme too :D06:50
pwn4tt4ckSAME!!06:50
pwn4tt4ck:D06:50
ForgeAusits not the OS's fault tho its mine, I just lack the skills.. .admittedly I do go into non-standard places to try extra non-standard stuff...06:50
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smoothiescould someone try download kbfx at from the source download link on this page http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=24898, i can't download it, and i just wanted to see if it's just me or the server is down06:51
ForgeAusso now when I boot an XFCE session I don't get an interface at all06:51
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ForgeAuswhy get it from there, use adept06:51
smoothies.,..why not  =( it's the latest version that has fixes that i want06:52
ForgeAusIC06:52
smoothies...06:53
smoothiesdid u try it?06:53
smoothiesor anyone i guess =)06:53
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joe_Is anyone an expert on partitioning harddrive for dual boot?06:55
ForgeAusI'm nott but what doy ou need joe?06:55
ForgeAusdual boot shouldn't be difficult06:55
smoothiessomeone would ask a pointless question like why would u want to dual boot06:56
matthew_I can help too, joe_06:56
joe_want to dual boot on my hp laptop  windows xp and kubuntu06:56
joe_not sure how to make the extended partition that i can put logicals like fat3206:57
matthew_joe_, which partition editor are you using?06:57
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joe_tried to use gparted and qtparted, but not finding the option to make extended instead of primary06:58
matthew_oops, gotta go. See you all later06:59
joe_still there forgeaus06:59
smoothiescould someone try download kbfx at from the source download link on this page http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=24898, i can't download it, and i just wanted to see if it's just me or the server is down06:59
joe_any one else available that can give me some input on partioning for dual boot?07:00
joe_any help would be appreciated.07:01
joe_one problem is windows is already using 3 primary partitions07:02
joe_1. ntfs for os 2. recovery partition 12gig fat32 3. ntfs 1 gig which I think is for booting staight to mediaplayer07:03
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matthew_so...07:41
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matthew_!kaffeine07:42
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matthew_computer, what's up?07:46
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mgastknI'm getting discouraged.07:57
mgastknKubuntu won't recognize my new digital camera. It knows a camera is there, but it doesn't load any photos.07:57
mgastknThis is my first day with linux on my hard drive. This is a lot of work.07:58
mgastknI have a canon powershot A710 IS07:58
mgastknThere's no linux driver for it.07:59
mgastknIt would probably be too hard to install anyway.07:59
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mgastknMan, I'm starting to miss Windows. At least everything worked (easily).07:59
vadoBonjour08:00
mgastknSorry, I'm just venting, I guess.08:00
mgastknI don't know. Maybe I'll just fold, and go back to the other. Discouraging, but the cold hard reality.08:02
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mgastknwell, I guess I'll call it a night. No one wants to talk anyway.08:07
Linux_Galoremgastkn: hmm08:07
Linux_Galoremgastkn: try running windows on my sun machine, ha, wont even boot08:08
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mgastknsorry. It just seems like there is a lot to deal with. I want it to work. I really do.08:14
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Ashexwhere's the kde theme manager located?08:17
AshexIt's not showing up in system settings08:17
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JucatoAshex: press Alt+F2, type in "kcontrol"08:20
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AshexJucato, thanks :) managed to find it through adept08:21
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Jucato??08:21
Jucatoit's already installed by default. no need to install it08:21
AshexI did a search for it through adept08:22
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Jucatook...08:27
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krautmoin08:32
Linux_GaloreJucato: nothing on the web about it08:33
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Linux_Galorenope08:35
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geniiGeez ircii is pretty primitive :)08:47
matthew_hey genii08:48
geniimatthew_ Heya08:48
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geniimatthew_ I'm doing some test netboots on the box i normally am running X and connecting from so using the server CLI08:49
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matthew_genii, whoa...complicated. I didn't know you could use irc from a cli08:49
geniiheh :) ircii08:49
matthew_genii, ever figure out your problem? or did you just give up? lol08:50
matthew_genii, ah, ok08:50
matthew_genii, primitive in what fashion?08:50
geniimatthew_ I actually figured out a way to execute a post install set of commands on a netbooted machine08:50
geniimatthew Primitive in no sidebar with usernames etc08:51
matthew_genii, did you modify the installer or install image?08:51
matthew_genii, ah, the bare minimum08:51
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geniimatthew_ I actually altered the initrd.gz file and put some nfs kernel stuf in there then am doing an nfs mount command etc08:52
matthew_genii, oh, right. that's what I was thinking of doing. NOT! lol08:52
geniinot for the faint of heart08:52
matthew_hee hee hee08:52
geniiMaybe I'll do a wiki on it for the interested08:52
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matthew_genii, you mean the two people in the world that need to do that?08:53
matthew_lol08:53
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geniimatthew_ I had to follow a *LOT* of stuff done by true wizards. As someone said "I stand on the shoulders of giants"08:54
matthew_ah. gotcha. what is the initrd anways?08:54
geniimkinitrd by the way is a major pain, don't ever deal with it unless you have to LOL08:54
geniimatthew_ The initrd is a comressed root filesystem image08:55
matthew_genii, don't plan on it....08:55
matthew_genii, lol, sounds kinda sketchy to me!08:55
geniieg: Initial RamDisk08:55
geniiI got lots of kernel panics until i got the hang of it anyhow08:56
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geniimatthew_ Hey you in Canada? Best Buy has a great deal on external 250Gb drives, I just picked one up yesterday08:57
matthew_genii, yeah, I try to stay away from mucking around in the kernel...too much I don't know...like that disabling scsi support will disable usb drives as well...lol08:57
matthew_Nope, Northern California...08:58
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matthew_genii, but it's all good, I've got dual 200 Giggers...lol08:58
geniiheh :)08:58
matthew_genii, what's the best way to copy the contents (mbr included) from a 20 to a 200 gig drive...08:59
matthew_?08:59
geniiSo I'm watching Dapper install automagically on the other box right now, it's comforting :) ...lag ... ther08:59
geniithere is a mbr copy function but I forget how it goes08:59
matthew_genii, yeah, but I need to copy everything...I was thinking dd /dev/hda /dev/hdb09:00
geniimatthew_ For identically set up drives eg: same Cylinder/Heads etc I would use dd but for different layouts it's not good09:00
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matthew_genii, that's what I've heard...different geometries.09:00
geniibecause dd copies *EXACTLY*09:00
matthew_genii, should I just copy across all files and progs, then do a grub-reinstall?09:01
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geniiJust use a livecd then mount each dev and cp -aR09:01
matthew_or something like that?09:01
matthew_-aR?09:01
geniimatthew_ Yeah exactly09:01
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matthew_is that what the command is? grub-reinstall?09:01
genii-a =archive..supposed to have Recursive builtin but doesn't always take09:01
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geniiCopies /dev entries etc and symlinks with -a as well09:02
geniimatthew Yes, grub-install09:02
matthew_ok, grub-install...09:02
matthew_genii, I'm just about set...very cool!09:02
kulbirhow do i install GTK+?09:03
geniiI need to make a coffeerun :)09:03
geniimatthew_ Back in about 5 mins09:03
matthew_ok.09:04
matthew_kulbir, let me google around...k?09:04
kulbirI tried apt-get install GTK+* to see what would come up but there were a ton of things so I wasnt able to narrow down the selection to GTK+/dev headers.09:04
matthew_kulbir, what do you need specifically?09:04
matthew_or do you not know?09:05
kulbiri was trying to install a program09:05
matthew_and it need gtk+ libs?09:05
matthew_needs09:05
kulbiryes09:05
matthew_kulbir, what did you use to try to install it?09:05
matthew_the program09:06
matthew_not gtk+09:06
kulbirmp3splitter09:06
matthew_kulbir, try doing             sudo apt-get install mp3splitter09:06
kulbiri have download source code .09:06
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matthew_kulbir, why? is it not in the repos?09:06
kulbiryes it is not in the repos.09:07
matthew_lol, yes it is not...09:07
matthew_ok, what is the purpose of mp3splitter?09:07
vgeHi, how do i connect from other remove connection to other remote host? Same ssh -l "username" "host" ?09:07
vgeremove=remote09:07
kulbirssh username@host09:08
matthew_vge, have you tried ssh -l "username" "host" ?09:08
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matthew_ok, what is the purpose of mp3splitter?09:08
matthew_kulbir, what does mp3splitter do?09:09
kulbiri want to split some mp3 files09:09
matthew_kulbir, I don't understand.09:09
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Linux_Galorekulbir: aah yeah Ive seen that09:10
matthew_Linux_Galore, can you help him? I can't.09:10
Linux_Galorematthew_: Ive seen it but never actually used it09:11
matthew_kulbir, I don't know much about GTK+...you may want to ask genii when he gets back.09:12
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kulbirback09:12
kulbirk thanks09:12
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Linux_Galorekulbir: I usually use audacity to split things up09:13
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vgeWhat does following means? "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host"09:13
Linux_Galorevge:  either the machine rebooted or your account times out09:14
kulbirLinux_Galore: can i split mp3?09:14
kulbirwith audacity?09:14
Linux_Galorevge: ssh is your remote shell login tool, remote host is the machine your logging into09:14
Linux_Galorekulbir: yes09:14
vgeLinux_Galore: i know, i was just getting desperate with following message09:15
kulbirLinux_Galore: thanks09:15
Linux_Galorevgea basically the remote machine booted you off09:15
geniiI'm back :) Don't much use GTK+, sorry :(09:16
vgeLinux_Galore: but is the syntax different if i take connection from remote host to other remote host via ssh?09:16
Linux_Galorevge: you mean bunny hopping from one machine to another09:17
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geniivge I do this ssh hopping all the time, it works fine09:17
vgegenii: yup, the syntax is the same as for first connection?09:17
geniiyup09:17
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vgek09:17
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Linux_Galorevge: its very common practice, its means you only have one machine open for ssh access from the internet to worry about, all the subnet machines wont allows a remote login09:18
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geniivge then if you have maybe 3 hops, you need to remember to put "exit" 3 times to get back to your root machine of course09:18
davidouhi guys. I have a problem with my wifi connection09:18
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geniivge I use this method to ssh into 1 machine behind my router at home, then ssh into the lan addresses from there of my other systems09:19
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vgeLinux_Galore: yes, it was problem out of my scope to fix, iw got people to work on it now, but the syntax was nice to check09:19
matthew_genii, I'm a little bit confused on the subject of ssh'ing through the internet to a linux box...say the between my home and work boxes.09:19
Linux_Galorevge: the mehtod doesnt change from machine to machine, its the same09:20
Linux_Galoremethod*09:20
Linux_Galorevge: the ip obviously does though09:20
geniimatthew_ Well for instance on windoze boxes I am regularly at I use a program called Putty09:20
geniimatthew_ On the home router port forwarding for port 22 is set to go to my main server. I can ssh into it from anyplace.09:21
matthew_genii, umm, but I'm not using XP anywhere...only kubuntu 6.1009:21
Linux_Galoregenni tut tut, never set port 22 for ssh on the internet09:21
geniimatthew_ So then you just issue at cli:  ssh 192.168.0.0      etc but of course the proper IP :)09:21
matthew_Linux_Galore, why not?09:21
Linux_Galoremathieu: every hacker on the planet knows port 22 is ssh09:22
geniiLinux_Galore I know I know :)09:22
geniiI've had the lcture before LOL09:22
matthew_genii, but seems like that would only work between boxes on the same internal network.09:22
matthew_brb09:22
geniimatthew_ Well, with that Ip I gave yes09:22
Linux_Galoregenii: I usually set it some some ridiculously high port number09:22
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Linux_Galoregenii: use your birthday date as the port number09:23
geniiLinux_Galore I rarely get ssh attacks there...my work machines are of course setup more securely with nonstandard port assignments09:23
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Linux_Galoregenii: I love ssh, I often leave files at home or work09:24
geniiAnd not stupidly obvious ones like 808009:24
geniiLinux_Galore Yeah ssh rocks :)09:25
vgehow do i disable root access? i think i have followed some tutorial like 8months ago to enable it09:25
matthew_back09:25
geniivge root access to ssh?09:25
ValmarkoKonqueror is not recognizing flash plugin, I already did a 'scan for plugins' but nothing happens. Someone help me?09:25
Linux_Galorevge: need more info, system ssh ??09:25
vgegenii: that i guess09:26
vgedo i really need it at all?09:26
geniivge No, you should use sudo or su09:26
Linux_Galorevge: I dont have root access on any machine that connects to the net with sshd running09:26
matthew_ok, I'm back, genii ,but I still don't understand how to ssh across the 'net. should I use the external IP address (The one the internet sees) of the box at work to connect to it from my home?09:26
Linux_Galorevge so you want to disable root login on the machine in general09:27
Linux_Galore?09:27
geniimatthew_ Yes. But on your router of course you need to port-forward whatever port you set for ssh to the lan IP of the box you want to reach09:27
vgeLinux_Galore: yes09:27
Linux_Galorevge: go back to sudp09:27
Linux_Galoresudo*09:27
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matthew_oh man, today, I was sitting in a stool, and a customer walked in the door. I tried to get up, but my sandal snagged on the bench...and I fell, hard. I hit my head on the concrete and saw stars...totally sucked.09:28
geniimatthew_ My life is a bit easier since i have static IPs at home09:28
vgeLinux_Galore: i dont use root access at all, but i think the possibility is there09:28
geniiGeez you should get an xray and make sure you don't have a concussion09:29
matthew_genii, ok, so I port forward a port for a _specific_ IP address (say 72.168.9.3) then I can connect to that router from another computer?09:29
matthew_genii, lol, my boss is also a volunteer fireman...he checked my pupils and stuff...it's great...no headache or nothing..just a little goose egg...lol09:29
Linux_Galorevge: just remove the root account in /etc/passwd should do it09:29
vgeLinux_Galore: kk, ill try that ty09:29
geniimatthew Say you have a router ... it will normally give internal IPs to the lan --eg: 192.168.x.x but to the internet at large it will have some IP09:29
matthew_genii, ok.09:30
matthew_genii, I'm with you so far.09:30
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geniimatthew_ So on the router itself you tell it to forward traffic on port 22 (in the simplest example where you are not reassigning the port for ssh on the machine which is receiving it) to the IP of for instance 192.168.0.10109:30
geniimatthew_ then from outside you go ssh 72.168.9.309:31
geniietc09:31
geniiand it reaches the box inside09:31
matthew_genii, ok, so anything that pings port 22 (or whatever) will automatically be forwarded to my computer at home09:31
matthew_genii, Ok, that makes sense09:31
matthew_very cool.09:31
geniimatthew_ The router at home where the machine you want to reach is the one to mess with, not the remote router :)09:32
matthew_genii, is there anyway to get a gui going from a ssh? or is it just a secure shell?09:32
matthew_genii,  I got that. PF the router of the computer that you want to get into.09:32
geniimatthew_ For that I would recommend some vnc client and same idea with port forwarding except different numbers09:33
matthew_!vnc > matthew_09:33
geniimatthew_ The unchanged default vnc ports used to be something like 5801 or 5901 maybe for the java interface09:33
matthew_but doesn't that require users on both boxes?09:33
genii!vncserver09:34
ubotuvncserver: Virtual network computing server software. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3.7-12ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 541 kB, installed size 1244 kB09:34
geniithen of course vncclient09:34
matthew_genii, very nice. installing now...gonna work w/ it tomorrow...give you something _else_ to help me with.09:34
geniiheh :)09:35
matthew_genii, can I have vncclient and vncserver running on one box at the same time? that way I could get into my work computer from home and vice versa. I get that the client/server has to be running on both for that to happen, of course.09:35
geniiYeah you can run any combo of the 2 progs you like09:35
matthew_ok, cool.09:36
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geniieven multiple servers but on usual connections the bandwidth will choke after 2 on DSL for instance09:36
matthew_genii, installing the server now...09:36
php-freakwhat do i use to open .bin files with?09:36
geniiphp-freak ./09:36
matthew_genii, I'm on a 6Mbs 1Mbs Cable line.09:37
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vgematthew_: for good gui windows tool to connect linux boxes i would recommend sshsecuresell09:37
php-freak./ at the shell?09:37
geniiphp-freak eg   ./thename.bin09:37
geniiphp-freak yeah they are executable files09:37
php-freakwhats is a .bin anyways09:37
Linux_Galorevge: actually you just need to remove the password for root in /etc/shadow  ie leave the line there but change the hash to a single *09:37
matthew_vge, I don't use Windows boxes. but thanks for the info. I'll probably end up using it...lol09:37
matthew_vge, sshsecureshell, right?09:38
vgematthew_: ow, sorry then, i misred your info, yup09:38
matthew_vge, lol, np09:38
Linux_Galorevge:  ie root:$1$x0TAaqtc$Hnx7I5NiZsxhcJhkAl2Q80:13076:0:99999:7::: becomes  root:*:13076:0:99999:7:::09:38
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geniimatthew_ With that connection you could support maybe 3 or possibly 4 concurrent vnc servers running but I doubt if I'd want to :)09:38
vgeLinux_Galore: ty09:38
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matthew_genii, yeah, what would I use it for?09:38
unix_infidelhaha, /me deconstructs the hash.09:38
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matthew_seems like one would be enough just for me....09:38
unix_infidelw00t.09:38
php-freakgenii: i tried ./thename.bin09:39
php-freakit did not open up, I opened my shell, and did it from there09:39
geniimatthew_ Well, there used to be these things callled remote X servers... so you could run X over network etc all from a central server. This way you can have multiple users with their own desktops etc09:39
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vgeLinux_Galore: actually it is like that, good for me09:40
matthew_!pastebin09:40
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)09:40
geniimatthew_ But for single use 1 server is fine unless you want to have more than 1 session running from different locales etc09:40
geniiphp-freak Is the name of your .bin file  "thename.bin" ??09:41
php-freakno09:41
php-freaki put the proper name in09:41
matthew_roflmao09:41
matthew_oh, ok, nvm09:41
geniiphp-freak Ah, OK :) You never know09:41
php-freak./namehere.bin09:41
geniiphp-freak Is the file supposed to be a php file?09:41
matthew_genii, would you take a look at this for me? this occured when I installed vnc-java.                 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39129/09:41
php-freakno09:41
php-freakits .bin09:41
matthew_pleas09:41
matthew_please*09:42
geniiphp-freak Unless it is either a disk-image or some firmware for a device it should run with the ./  before it unless it is for a different platform than what you are using or possibly different kernel-version etc09:42
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geniimatthew_ I can't easily go to a url then back here in comman-line...it's possible but pain in the arse09:43
matthew_genii, np09:43
geniiI am in single-user mode otherwise i would just do consoles :(09:43
matthew_genii, it just says that a lot of lib*** were automatically isntalled and are no longer needed. libs like libssl-dev, libarts1-mpeglib, etc...09:44
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geniimatthew_ Ah OK :) No worries then09:45
matthew_what's it all about?09:45
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geniimatthew_ vnc install uses secure connections so it puts on stuff like openssl and so on. Nothing to worry about09:45
smoothiesi just downloaded kbfx, it was a tar ball, now that i extracted it, there's two more tar balls, *confused* how do i install kbfx, don't mention adept09:46
matthew_genii, alrighty then...09:46
Jucatosmoothies: apt-get :P09:46
geniicrap, my automated install forgot to put kde :( :(09:46
smoothiesbut those get me old versions tho =(09:46
geniiAFK sorting out09:47
Jucatosmoothies: from where did you get the tarball?09:47
matthew_genii, what about Krdc? I found it in my "Internet" section. Oh, and take as long as you want, lol.09:47
fildo!xvid09:47
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:47
matthew_!Krdc09:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Krdc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:47
smoothiesJucato: from http://kubuntu.schmidtke-hb.de/index.php?serendipity[subpage] =downloadmanager&thiscat=2&file=1, german site but i clicked on the icon that meant/looked like download09:47
matthew_it looks like a client for VNC and other servers...09:47
geniiHmm it installed but something is messed09:47
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genii(kde)09:48
matthew_!kfrb09:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kfrb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:48
matthew_genii, that sucks09:48
matthew_maybe a simple startx?09:48
smoothiesJucato actually i just followed link on this page http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=4970609:48
geniimatthew_ Krdc is K Remote Desktop Connection. Works somewhat on vnc principle and interoperable I believe with XP Remote Desktop Sharing09:49
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matthew_ok, so I shouldn't have to install vncclient on my work box?09:49
geniimatthew_ Yeah I tried startx and now have to dissect logs etc09:49
matthew_beautiful. Have fun w/ that.09:50
geniimatthew If you have Krdc on it already it would likely work as a client fine09:50
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Jucatosmoothies: that page has a download for a .deb file. it's not a tarball, and no need to extract it09:50
No1VikingHow do I change all settings in kmix to the default values?09:50
geniiweird. "Unable to allocate system texture memory.Disabling DRI" "(EE) I810(0): Ring buffer allocation failed"09:51
geniiwtf is ring buffer??09:51
smoothiesJucato o yeah i extracted a deb lol, that was stupid of me =)09:51
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leafwanyone has any definitive guide to external displays for laptops?09:52
smoothiesJucato how do i install the deb09:52
matthew_genii, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_buffer09:52
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geniibleh a url I can't reach atm :)09:52
geniiLOL09:52
Jucatosmoothies: right-click -> Kubuntu Package Menu -> install09:52
leafwit was working (on reboot only) in dapper, but now in edgy it fails.09:52
Jucatosmoothies: or "sudo dpkg -i <deb file>" in Konsole09:53
smoothiesJucato thx =) i'm a new linux user as u can tell =)09:53
matthew_genii, it basically says that it is a method of using memory in a computer program. "Ring" Alludes to the rotation through the buffer of the positions where the next data will be read and written.09:53
geniiAFK coffee-sipping and contemplating09:53
No1VikingHow do I change all settings in kmix to the default values? Anyone?09:54
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smoothiesis three other gadgets/cool stuff anyone would recommend? i just been strolling around kde-look website and following the stuff on kde improvment section09:54
smoothiesthere*09:54
matthew_genii, googling as we speek.09:54
smoothiesand i meant kde-apps website09:54
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smoothiestoo generic a question, sorry guys =) don't need to respond09:55
geniiGot it09:55
matthew_genii, what was it?09:55
Jucatosmoothies: the improvement section sometimes contain just mockups (plans) rather than actual apps. so it's best you just go poking around09:55
geniimatthew_ video ram is 4096 so 1280 default res was too much for 16 bit09:55
genii1024 in xorg.conf fixed it09:56
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matthew_ah, that makes sense...old video card?09:56
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geniimatthew_ Missing ram chip :)09:56
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smoothiesJucato will do, thx :)09:56
matthew_genii, omg09:56
matthew_genii, and you sell these!?!?! lol09:56
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geniimatthew_ LOL These are old city computers remember. I just looked in the case and I can see the empty slot there09:57
matthew_unbelievable! ;)09:57
geniiThe employees were scavenging crap out of them once they knew the city was unloading them on us09:57
geniiWe got boxes marked as working which were entirely gutted09:58
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matthew_lol, those selfish crazy canadians!09:58
geniimatthew_ I think it's just a case of global dissatisfaction as a public employee09:58
geniieg: it starts with stealing pens and liquid paper then moves on to guting your work pc09:59
matthew_yeah, you're probably right.09:59
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matthew_genii, I'm glad I'm happy with where I work...09:59
geniiweird it starx x now but gnome09:59
syedhow to add urudu language in kubuntu ? when i do system settings --> regional settings --> languages, i have only US and British English there10:00
syedhow do i add languages ?10:00
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geniiAFK investigating10:00
unix_infidelsyed: urdu is close enough to hindi that it probably wont get a seperate designation.10:01
matthew_genii, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?10:01
syedunix_infidel: but how do i add it, i dont have anything else than english in the list, how do i add hindi or anu language ?10:01
geniimatthew_ I suspect the preseed file I used for Edgy automated install will have to be modded for dapper10:02
matthew_what's a preseed file?10:02
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geniimatthew_ When you do an automated install you can pass the kernel a command-line value like:   preseed/url=http://myinternalserver/nameoffile10:03
unix_infidelsyed: apt-cache search ubuntu-l10n-hi10:03
matthew_oh, ok, like cheatcodes....10:03
geniimatthew_ Basically it's a bunch of answers to questions the installer normally asks10:03
matthew_like acpi=off dma=off etc...?10:03
geniiin the preseed file you can put stuff like: d-i  grub-installer skip10:04
geniietc10:04
unix_infidelsyed: do you have a hindi keyboard or just prefer hindi / sanskrit output?10:04
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matthew_oh...ok. Why would you want to skip installing grub? Seems like you need some kind of bootloader...even lilo...10:05
geniimatthew_ You can pre-can a list of what packages to install, what default root asswd is, etc etc10:05
syedunix_infidel: i dont have hindi keyboard, i just want the lang to be enabled, so i have hindi output10:05
geniimatthew_ LOL only an example10:05
php-freakany one know how i can open this .bin file, because /. is saying unkown command10:05
matthew_gotcha10:05
unix_infidelsyed: use taht command i gave you above.10:05
geniiphp-freak you need the slash and period in correct order eg:    ./thefilename10:06
unix_infidelyou might have it in a local repo, there are / is a team of translators.  There are only a few differences b/w the language output.10:06
php-freak./ thats what i did sorry10:06
geniiphp-freak you may want to try:    sudo ./the/complete/path/to the/filename.bin10:06
php-freakk10:06
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php-freakcommand not found10:07
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geniiphp-freak try then:  sudo exec /the/path/thename.bin10:08
php-freakcommand not found10:08
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php-freakthis sucks10:08
php-freakgetting mad10:08
geniiphp-freak It may be that the filename ends with .bin but that it is actually some other format like .tar.gz but downloaded into .bin extension. You may check where it came from and see if it is supposed to have that extension10:09
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php-freakwell says it is10:09
php-freakit was downloaded as  .rar, and .bin was inside of it10:10
geniiphp-freak Exactly what is this particular .bin file supposed to be/do ?10:10
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geniiphp-freak If you try to open this file in an editor is there somewhere in the first part that says "ELF"   or is it perhaps a text file?10:14
php-freakyes10:14
php-freakhold on10:14
geniiphp-freak if the first line reads something like #!/someplace/sh             change it to the place where sh is10:15
geniiThat will be the "command not found"10:15
php-freakyes it says .elf10:15
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php-freakELF10:16
php-freakwell not ., but some cahacterh10:16
geniiphp-freak OK, it is an executable for sure then10:16
geniiphp-freak You may need to change the executable bit on the file for it to run10:16
zorglu_"file yourstuffgoeshere" will tell you the type of file it is10:16
geniiphp-freak eg:   sudo chmod +x filename.bin10:16
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php-freakokay hold on10:17
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php-freakokay i ran that command10:17
php-freakthe shell prompt showed back up10:17
geniiphp-freak OK now try the previous way eg:    ./thefilename.bin10:17
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php-freakguess what10:18
geniiphp-freak   sudo ./filename.bin      even :)10:18
php-freakit opened10:18
php-freakhehe10:18
php-freakWhat did that do to the file?10:18
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geniiphp-freak There are attributes on *nix files which allow/disallow them to be executed10:19
genii!chmod | php-freak10:19
ubotuphp-freak: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux10:19
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php-freaki see10:19
php-freakSo it wasn't aloud to be excuted10:19
geniiphp-freak Exactly10:19
php-freaktake me a little awhile to leanr linux to the fullest, i been using windows my hole life10:20
geniiphp-freak It is frustrating at times but rewarding :)10:20
php-freaklol yea10:20
php-freakI like *nix way better then windows still10:20
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geniiOK I need to go AFK and examine my preseed files etc ... back in maybe 5 mins :)10:21
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zorglu_php-freak: may i ask why ?\10:22
php-freakwhy10:22
php-freakI don't know, just do10:22
php-freakI like the way things work10:22
php-freakand the shell10:22
zorglu_ok :)10:22
php-freaki work with php a llot, so its fun10:23
php-freakjust not famaliar with all the commands yet10:23
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geniiHeh got it :) I had commented out my "tasksel" entry previously for debugging and it went to Gnome install by default10:24
matthew_genii, don't you love it when stuff works out?10:25
geniimatthew_ Now to try the whole enchilada over again LOL10:25
geniiOver lan not too bad, about 12-15 minutes for complete install10:25
matthew_lol, if it works, then you've done it...are you installing over a 100Mb/s network?10:26
geniimatthew_ The crappy switch is only 10Mb :(10:26
just-this-timephp-freak: how can you introduce someone to php . some primer links ?10:26
matthew_wtf10:26
matthew_!10:26
matthew_that really sucks...10:26
php-freakjust-this-time: What do you mean?10:26
matthew_genii, you can't find anything else?!? :)10:26
geniimatthew_ Still not too bad when all the repos are mirrored10:26
matthew_genii, nice...how many can you do at one time (computers, not repos)10:27
matthew_?10:27
just-this-timephp-freak: how can you introduce someone to php . some primer links ? <--- offer me that fun10:27
php-freakphp.net10:27
geniimatthew_ As many as I can assign numbers to, which would likely be  25410:27
just-this-timeok tyvm10:27
php-freakwhen i first started using it i had a lot of trouble with the termology10:27
matthew_genii, you've got all the equipment for that?10:28
php-freakbut keep working with it, and you'll get better before you know it10:28
just-this-timeterminology ?10:28
php-freakyea sorry10:28
geniiyes php.net is *the* php source for manulas, tutorials etc10:28
matthew_genii, manulas, huh? lol10:28
php-freakFor awhile, I was thinking man i must not be able to do this stuff, and after awhile it started coming together, and now its simple10:28
geniimatthew_ Well, over 20 machines may pop a breaker LOL10:28
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matthew_genii, lol..l10:28
matthew_...10:28
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knivageHi :)10:29
matthew_hi, knivage10:30
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knivageIs this a good place to ask for help?10:31
matthew_genii, when you netboot, you must be booting from a floppy, right?10:31
just-this-timephp is understood by most gui browsers right ?10:31
matthew_knivage, absolutely10:31
knivageOh, cool, thanks :)10:31
matthew_!ask10:31
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)10:31
matthew_lol10:31
knivageOkay, well, I asked on the forums as well but I might get a faster reply here.10:31
just-this-timenetboot can from netcards bootrom10:31
matthew_probably10:31
knivagelol10:31
knivageWell, I'm downloading Kubuntu 6.10 at the moment.10:32
matthew_just-this-time, I didn't know that...huh.10:32
matthew_knivage, ok......10:32
knivageAnd anyway, i want to connect to my wireless network (using it at the moment on windows xp :o)10:32
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knivageit's a WiFi AP Solo (came with my ASUS motherboard, model M2N32 SLI Deluxe)10:33
just-this-timeI want to implement ltsp ( ltsp.org) kids classroom with weak PCs strong centra PC10:33
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matthew_knivage, it must be a laptop, then?10:33
knivageno10:33
knivagea desktop10:33
knivageand a pretty huge one at that :p10:33
just-this-timenetboot helps this happen10:33
geniijust-this-time Basically this is what I am dfoing here10:33
knivagejust running a cable to it would be illogical10:33
matthew_knivage, huh....never heard of a desktop w/ builtin wireless...unless it's on a pc card...10:34
knivageno10:34
knivagesorry10:34
knivageok...10:34
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matthew_knivage, so, you want to know if it'll work w/ linux?10:34
knivageit came wiht a built in card, acts as if i had a pci card but instead it takes up two of the USB ports i could've had (max 8 or 10)10:34
geniijust-this-time You can run the entire OS on an initrd for instance10:34
knivagesort of10:34
knivageif i get WINE and then run the program that10:35
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knivageis sort of like a driver/ connection program10:35
knivageshould i be able to connect to the network through that?10:35
knivagebtw, connected to my wireless card, i have this little thingy-ma-jig which is the wireless adapater thing :p10:36
knivageI may be able to get a picture :010:36
knivage*:)10:36
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matthew_knivage, so, you've got an external antenna that connects to the card?10:36
knivageyeah10:36
knivagedont know much about this kind of thing...10:37
knivage:(10:37
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knivagehttp://www.asus.co.jp/810/images/products/1163/M2N32-SLI_Deluxe_WiFi-AP_Solo.jpg10:37
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knivagethere, that connects to the card on the back of my comptuer :)10:37
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geniiCrap no mouse :( I need to find some xorg preseed value for psaux etc10:37
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matthew_knivage, that should be transparent to kubuntu...there should be no problem.10:38
matthew_knivage, if your card is supported...lol10:38
knivageyup, awesome, thanks!10:38
knivageso does kubuntu have to support it?10:38
knivagei thought it would be sort of... seperate...10:39
matthew_knivage, you can generally pop the liveCD in and take the OS for a test drive...10:39
knivageok, are all kubuntu DVDs live?10:39
matthew_knivage, nope kubuntu must support hardware for it to work...10:39
matthew_knivage, yup10:39
knivagedang...10:39
knivageokay, thanks :)10:39
matthew_knivage, np10:39
knivagejust gotta let it finish downloading10:40
knivagemy isp went down so i had to start again :(10:40
geniiknivage It helps immensely to know what model or chipset the wireless is, easier to find if it is supported or what may be needed for drivers etc10:40
knivageoh10:40
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knivagei know where to get that!10:40
jlowellhow can I not have password prompts?10:40
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matthew_jlowell, what do you mean? password prompts for sudo?10:41
geniiGenerally Asus has very linux-friendly devices in their boards10:41
knivageit says in windows, that i connect using a: Realtek RTL8187 Wireless 802.11g10:41
jlowellmatthew_: yes for starting adept manager gui and stuff like that10:41
geniiknivage OK let me go to my other box and look it up10:41
zorglu_q. is it possible to get kdesu to remember the password for a while, as sudo does ?10:42
knivagehey, thank :)10:42
knivage*thanks10:42
jlowellmatthew_: thats what I mean what zorglu_ asked10:42
matthew_jlowell, there is a reason that stuff is password protected.10:42
zorglu_jlowell: kdesu allow it as a standalone program, but i never succeed to make it work on ubuntu10:42
matthew_jlowell, if you strip it...you'll end up w/ a linux box w/ the security of windows...lol, maybe not as good...10:42
zorglu_matthew_: ok but is it possible ?10:43
matthew_zorglu_, jlowell , I don't know. I've never even thought about it...10:43
zorglu_ok10:44
geniiknivage Apparently on Edgy (6.10) these chips work "out-of-the-box" but in dapper you may have to do some installing of things10:44
knivagethanks, im getting Edgy so it should be fine.10:44
geniiCool :)10:44
knivagejust out of interest, where did you get that?10:44
jlowellhas anyone gotten enemy territory or enemy lines to work?10:45
jlowellor google earth?10:45
knivagethe information that is10:45
zorglu_http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/kdesu/sec-password-keeping.html <- jlowell how to enable it for kdesu as a standalone10:45
geniiknivage It is a long url to type in and no copy/paste from there to here... first link on google when entered "ubuntu"  and "RTL8187"    (perhaps wrong # there but it is scrolled up so cannot see it now)10:46
knivageok10:46
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knivagethanks :)10:46
knivagei'll have a look10:46
jlowellthx zorglu_10:47
zdogdehi10:47
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zdogdei have kubuntu 6.10 installed,  and a DELL Inspiron 6400. My DVD-Drive gets recognized, but i cant enable dma... I tried it with hdparm -d1 but it always says: "HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted". I also tried to add "piix" and "ide-core" to my modules  file, but this also didn't helped. May anyone help me? :)10:47
knivagehey, i was also wondering, what are the main differences between kubuntu and ubuntu apart from the interface?10:48
zorglu_zdogde: tried 'sudo hdparm -d1' ?10:48
zdogdeyes10:48
geniiknivage Not much. One just uses Gnome as desktop, the other KDE10:48
zdogdeis says: HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted10:48
knivageokay, thanks10:48
zorglu_zdogde: no idea then10:48
knivagejust thought that there *might* be something major10:49
geniiknivage In fact you can upgrade from Gnome version to KDE version by "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"10:49
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knivageoh, cool :)10:49
zdogde:(10:49
knivageso normally, if something works on ubuntu10:49
knivageit should work on kubuntu too10:49
knivage?10:50
knivagebrb10:50
zorglu_knivage: yes10:50
geniiknivage Yup, unless it relies on something specific to Gnome interface10:50
geniieven then a lot of Gname apps run in KDE fine10:50
matthew_genii, but you can always install gtk libs10:50
matthew_right?10:50
geniiYup :)10:50
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elijahlofgren/part10:51
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geniiHmm... netbooting install: "Retrieving file 498 of 1879 (8m21s remaining)"10:51
knivagethought so, thanks :)10:51
matthew_genii, yay, it's working?10:52
jlowellhas anyone gotten enemy territory or enemy lines to work?10:52
jlowellor google earth?10:52
geniimatthew_ Well, the automated install part LOL About the KDE desktop..we will know in about 7m48s10:52
geniigive or take10:52
zorglu_jlowell: google earth has a package for it already i think10:53
matthew_lol...it always takes at least one try w/ linux...10:53
zorglu_jlowell: about the game you will have to google about 'cedega' or 'wine'10:53
knivagehey, is there a big list somewhere of all the included software on the Kubuntu DVD?10:53
knivagegoogle hasn't helped me here :(10:53
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geniiknivage Well, once you install it, the package manager will list *all* packages you can install etc10:54
knivageokay, thanks :)10:54
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jlowellzorglu_: yah i know but googleearth gives seg fault10:56
jlowelland the games both have linux versions but they also fail to run10:56
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geniiknivage Generally it wants to go online to grab the newest whatever but you can see only whats on the cd/dvd by commenting out all lines in /etc/apt/sources.list except for the cd/dvd entry then running apt-get update. The package manager will then list only the things on there10:56
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knivagewell, thanks for all the help everyone, cya later :)10:57
geniiknivage Peace :)10:57
geniiAFK10:58
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syed__i have installed urdu language support through menu --> system -->language support but still i could not see urdu font enabled in the region/language settings11:00
geniisyed__ You need to also install some fonts then it would seem11:01
syed__genii: any procedure to install the fonts,11:02
geniisyed__ I am searching my own machine with "sudo apt-cache search font|grep urdu|more       but no result :(11:03
geniisyed__ You may have a different result on your system11:03
syed__genii: i tried that but even i could not get any result..11:03
geniittf-paktype11:04
geniisyed__ sudo apt-get install ttf-paktype11:04
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genii:)11:07
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geniiHey is there some cli helper that will automagically always put the last command with the beginning I am typing when I hit up-arrow? I miss this from freeBSD11:09
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syed__genii: i have installed, then should i go th menu--> system settings--> language & regional settings and try to add there11:09
=== glazed_eyes thanks genii
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geniisyed__ From here I am not much help I am afraid :( But it seems a logical step11:10
geniiglazed_eyes No problemmo11:10
geniiweird, the netboot is installing gnome+kde now11:12
syed__genii: thanks, let me try on on my own..11:12
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geniiI can only hope kdm is put *after* gdm11:13
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geniiOK rebooting the autoinstalled box and we shall see :)11:20
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geniiCrap cli11:21
geniiBleh it's reverting to 1280 crash settings again11:22
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geniiblargh gnome11:23
vidar_hi guys11:23
vidar_I just updated my kubuntu 6.10 install and now I have no sound11:24
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geniividar_ Do you know what chipset your soundcard is?11:24
vidar_ac9711:24
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leafwany people using apple laptops here11:24
leafwcan't get second display to work properly (remains inside the laptop screen, scrollable)11:24
geniividar_ That is a generic type. You need to know if it is an ESS1867   chipset for instance11:25
vidar_00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 04)11:25
geniividar_ So it is an Intel 82801FB11:26
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vidar_ok thanks11:26
vidar_lsmod show a lot of snd modules loaded11:26
vidar_and the sound in kde is not muted11:26
geniividar_ The thing would be now to find what module it uses, then type the name of that module into the file /etc/modules   to force the kernel to load it at boot11:27
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vidar_ok11:27
geniividar_ Wait... are you getting a speaker icon with no red X across it?11:28
vidar_the same happened to ipw2200, but I know the name of it so I manually loaded it11:28
vidar_genii: yes11:28
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vidar_genii: there is no such directory11:29
geniividar_ If the speaker icon is not "X"'d out then check the mixer to make sure volumes are set OK. You can normally get there by some option on right-click of the speaker icon11:29
vidar_sorry11:29
vidar_there is11:29
vidar_ahh, there is the mixer11:30
vidar_:)11:30
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klerfaythow do I create one rar of part1.rar, part2.rar, part3.rar and part4.rar?11:30
geniividar_ Also in System Settings someplace for sound system is where to set ALSA or OSS etc etc  .. if autodetect is no good then I would try hard-setting ALSA11:31
vidar_genii: PCM was muted, thanks for the help11:32
geniividar_ :)11:32
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vidar_not good though to change settings like that automatically11:32
geniividar_ It is sometimes a good idea to backup /home/username dir before a new install/upgrade then restore it after so settings remain as before11:34
matthew_vidar_, I like to keep my /home on a different partition11:34
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vidar_really, you have to do that to update with apt-get?11:36
geniividar_ Well it is a good practise generally11:36
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genii(to make /home backups)11:37
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geniiBut it is not done with apt-get if that was the question :)11:37
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vidar_I know that11:38
geniisyed_ Any luck with the urdu install?11:38
geniividar_ Sorry, you never know how much someone does/does not know :)11:38
vidar_not taken :)11:38
vidar_so, wireless assistant, is it generally crappy or is it just me?11:39
geniiNo, it's generally the source of complaints ROFL11:39
matthew_vidar_, yeah, same here...11:40
vidar_lol11:40
matthew_more of an ass than an assistant11:40
matthew_lol11:40
geniiAFK need to dissect my install log for clues11:41
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vidar_so basically, I am too lazy to do iwconfig manually so I let the wifi assistant pick the AP, but then I have to manually do dhclient eth111:41
vidar_silly11:41
matthew_vidar_, what I did was to synchronise the settings between the "assistant" and my Network Settings.11:41
matthew_That worked beautifully!11:41
vidar_how the hell did you do that?11:42
vidar_the network settings crashes constaintly11:42
matthew_vidar_, sudo kcontrol, then just go to your Network Settings.11:43
vidar_already there11:44
Jucatokdesu kcontrol...11:44
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matthew_oh, right...11:44
vidar_it is in the menu...11:44
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vidar_:)11:44
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vidar_matthew_: what do you mean by "synchronise the settings" ?11:46
elt0nhi11:46
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elt0ni want to backup all my home files into a tar archiv11:46
matthew_I just make the settings the same for my wireless connection (ra0)11:46
elt0ndo i have to use a recurive switch for tar ?11:46
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vidar_elt0n: no11:47
elt0nor just tar cjf mybackup.tar.bz2 /home/user11:47
vidar_elt0n: yes11:47
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matthew_basically, the same in the network settings area as in the wireless Assistant area...11:47
elt0nis it correct? and does it take hidden files to?11:47
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_4strOhi11:48
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geniielt0n If it's a dir name it should auto-recurse11:48
_4strOi have a pb with my resolv.conf11:48
_4strOsomebody seems to rewrite it11:48
elt0ngenii: ok thx11:48
_4strOsomething :p11:49
vidar__4strO: dhclient11:49
matthew_I'm going to bed...night everyone!11:49
_4strOvidar_: what does it mean ?11:49
geniimatthew_ Gnite:)11:49
_4strOa config file to modifie ?11:49
vidar__4strO: your dhcp server sends you some dns server and your dhcp client overwrites the settings in resolv.conf11:50
_4strOseems true11:50
genii_4strO Your file is being rewritten each boot automatically by the system because your ethernet card is set to auto get an IP and so on11:50
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elt0ngenii: wat does this mean? tar: Removing leading `/' from member names11:50
geniielt0n It means it is making the internal dirs int he tar file relative to the path you tarred it from11:51
vidar__4strO: you disable it in the dhcp config11:51
_4strOmmm11:51
elt0ngenii: ok thx thats good ;-)11:51
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_4strOthe pb is present even if i configure my eth0 on ip static11:51
vidar_what is pb?11:52
berkesI am having trouble with some removable media. kubuntu mounts it, but it is mouted 700.11:52
berkes700 means that I should be able to write, yet that seems not possible either.11:52
geniiberkes Change the part in /etc/fstab which reads ro     to rw11:52
_4strOrequest subnet-mask, broadcast-address, time-offset, routers,11:53
_4strO        domain-name, domain-name-servers, host-name,11:53
_4strO        netbios-name-servers, netbios-scope;11:53
berkeswhat 'thing' handles this automounting, acutally? I cnnot find anything in /etc/fstab11:53
_4strOdo i have to remove domain-name domain-name-servers ??11:53
berkesgenii: its a usb device, and it does not show in fstab :/11:53
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fdovingberkes: hal and pmount. what are you trying to do?11:53
berkesfdoving: okay, ill hunt for that.11:54
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berkesfdoving: two things: mount an mp3 player. and mouting a simple usb stick :-)11:54
berkesboth fail, apparently for the same reason. Fail == I can read it, but not write to it11:54
fdovingberkes: did you put them in /etc/fstab? You should not.11:56
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berkesfdoving: nope, I did not. but I was really surprised not to find anything in fstab, yet I thought *ububtu would be ding it 'different'...11:57
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fdoving!away | rideout11:59
uboturideout: Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines11:59
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Xubuntian__osh__: hi osh, i did the complete test12:00
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kubuntian__osh__: where do i check results for smartmouttools?12:00
rideoutfdoving: sorry, konversation decided to change my settings, I've always had away messages off, hum...12:01
fdovingrideout: no problem, just wanted you to know :)12:01
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geniifdoving Do you know if there is some cli utility which when you put the first few letters of a command will always have on up-arrow the last command you used starting like that? It is something from FreeBSD I got used to12:07
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Jucatogenii: Ctrl+R ?12:07
njbdoesn't that depend on the shell that you use?12:08
gpatersonanyone ever had "Error writing Syncees to resource" in kitchensync?12:08
geniiHmm perhaps... on bsd I always had bash12:08
geniiJucato let me see if that works :)12:08
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njbDoes anyone know how i can get my ICH5 / CMedia 9780 microphone input working?12:09
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Jucatogenii: if you were using BASH on BSD, then the BASH on Linux should have the same feature, iirc12:09
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geniiBleh Ctrl-R is useful but when you sroll up with up-arrow takes you to irrelevant commands not starting with that begiining12:10
njbmaybe you can copy your .bashrc file from FBSD12:11
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geniiJucato Nah I just checked, my shell here is also bash12:11
geniinjb Good suggestion, thx12:12
Jucatoactually, I think Edgy is using DASH now...12:12
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geniiooh FBSD .bashrc causes shell crash LOL12:15
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geniiI already did chown for those that wonder12:16
geniibleh AFK12:18
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Guardianhi, since the last upgrade, usb flashdrives are no more mounted automatically, is there something to fix manually or is there a pending update to do ?12:18
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Guardiani'm using kubuntu 6.10 btw12:19
Martiinihow do I force aptitude dist-upgrade ... even if it would break my system12:19
geniiFound the bugbear.. I always use su there and root uses csh not bash etc12:20
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geniitry aptitude dist-upgrade --force            or --really-force12:21
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Martiini--really-force ??  youre kidding, right12:21
geniiOn some *nix systems if you do first just --force it gives a msg about the dangers then tells of you --really-force    just for insurance that you know the risks12:22
jlowellhi, how do I make kdesu not prompt for root password?12:22
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Sasha63Ciao svima na kanalu!12:24
Sasha63ima li koga ???12:24
genii!yu12:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about yu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:25
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Sasha63HI...12:25
Sasha63sorry...I am from...Serbia...12:25
Sasha63:)12:25
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geniiSasha63 If you can state your issue in English you may find assistance here :)12:26
Sasha63:(12:26
Sasha63my english....iz very bad....sorry..12:27
genii!sr | genii12:27
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genii!bs | genii12:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:27
genii!bn | genii12:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:27
Sasha63where you come from ?12:27
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geniiSasha63 I am in Toronto, Canada12:28
Sasha63Salutes from Smederevo / Yugoslavia...12:28
Sasha63:)12:28
Sasha63nice...12:28
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Sasha63I have a small problem...with Ati grafic card...12:29
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Sasha63on the Kubuntu 6.1012:29
Sasha63they dont have a suport for ATI 9600 Pro..12:30
geniiSasha63 Problems with ATI drivers have not yet been fixed on Edgy release12:30
Sasha63in eny repositorij dont have a suport ?12:31
geniiSasha63 If you search google for "fglrx" and "ubuntu" you will find a helpful link to help install the proper drivers, but currently there is no automatic method12:31
Sasha63:(12:32
Sasha63I am a beginerr....12:32
Sasha63I set up a resolution...but aceleration for 2D and 3D is bed..12:33
geniiSasha63 You may find it more useful to use the 6.06 release of ubuntu if you do not feel brave enough to manually fix the "fglrx" drivers for now12:33
geniiSasha63 Yes, the ATI driver for 6.10 has no 3D support12:34
Sasha63not yet ?12:35
Sasha63:(12:35
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geniiSasha63 Because ATI must release a binary driver for each linux kernel release, it may be a while before they produce a driver for 6.1012:36
Sasha63I automaticly downolad some ATI driver..in "Add and Remove programs"...but...12:36
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Guardianplease, since the last upgrade of my kubuntu 6.10 , usb flashdrives are no more mounted automatically, is there something to fix manually or is there a pending update to do ?12:36
Sasha63my integrated grafic...VIA S3..was work better!12:37
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Sasha63OK...I hope understand you...12:38
Sasha63Thank you very much...for help!12:38
geniiSasha63 You are very welcome12:38
Sasha63:)12:38
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jlowellanyone get googleearth to work12:43
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geniiCrap I broke something in my netboot preseed again12:49
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Sasha63Is there anybodu...from Yugoslavia ???12:50
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pbragaHi. I need some help installing apps.12:50
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KChatterIs there anyone here that can help me?12:51
lenscapeKChatter: with what?12:52
KChatterWith the package manager.12:52
lenscapewhich one?12:52
KChatterI recently tried to install the universe repository.12:52
KChatterNow, when I go to12:52
KChatterinstall/uninstall apps,12:52
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KChattermy choice is WAYYYY less than it used to be.12:53
KChatterOk. here's what I did:12:53
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KChatterI went to the package manager, View>Manage Repositories.12:53
lenscapehave you done an update?12:53
ubuntuhello12:53
KChatteryes.12:53
lenscapeKChatter: sudu apt-get update12:53
KChatterI already did that. I enabled the 2 comments that let me enable the universe package and suddenly everything was querked!12:54
Sasha63Gdo ponjemajet po Russki ???12:54
lenscapeare you sure you didn't 'enable' something that was actually a real comment?12:54
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lenscape!ru @ Sasha6312:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ru @ Sasha63 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:55
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KChattermaybe that's what happend.12:55
markcanyone have asuggestion as to where I could look to prevent kmail from always starting up even though I have my session manager set to start with an empty session ?12:55
jerpdoes anyone know where the folder that keeps the firefox icon is?12:55
KChatterwhat should I do to retrieve the original apps for choosing?12:55
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KChatterI already disable the comments.12:55
fdovinggenii: !comm12:56
Sasha63!12:56
fdovinggenii: will be replaced with 'command' if you have recently used that.12:57
lenscapeKChatter: take a look at the file /etc/apt/sources.list the format is pretty obvious. make sure it looks sensible.12:57
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vega-hmm, any idea why korganizer doesn't start through "run command..." but starts ok from the terminal?12:58
KChatterlenscape: Ok. I'll see. Hold on.12:58
vega-"run command... " just says "KDEinit could not launch 'korganizer'"12:58
lenscapevega-: path differences, maybe?12:59
KChatterlenscape:Ok. I see. I just disabled a comment.01:00
jerp!ru | Sasha6301:01
ubotuSasha63:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke01:01
geniijerp Actually srbian but there seems no channel for that01:02
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vega-lenscape: maybe, but it's in /usr/bin so you would think that would be in just about every path01:04
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Sasha63 !01:07
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geniisyed__ Any luck with the urdu install?01:11
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desarrollo06Good morning01:19
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metro-polisiei am runing dapper i have a geforce 6600 i updated my pkgs and now nv/nvidia drivers doesn't work only vesa help plz01:24
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geniiAnyone gotten Conexant HSF/HCF modem drivers compiled under Edgy yet?01:41
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animimotushi01:50
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SchuenemannI removed a partition and now I get this message when I boot: "Failed to open the device '/dev/hda2': no such file or directory01:51
animimotuswhen a dl http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=41180 and make a ./configure, I have this errrchecking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!"or : "01:51
SchuenemannFile system check failed. Please repair manually01:51
animimotus* error01:51
Jucatoanimimotus: install the package "xorg-dev"01:51
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geniiSchuenemann hda2 is normally the place the root filesystem gets installed to01:52
animimotusok I retry ;)01:52
Schuenemanngenii: no, there was another OS there01:52
SchuenemannI deleted it01:52
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JucatoSchuenemann: have you deleted or commented out the line for that particular partition in your fstab?01:52
Schuenemanndeleted01:52
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Jucatothe system might be trying to mount it01:52
Schuenemannusing qtparted01:52
Schuenemannyeah, I believe so01:53
geniiSchuenemann Which partition did you install linux to?01:53
Schuenemannhda301:53
geniiLikely as Jucato says then01:53
Schuenemannhow do I edit fstab?01:53
Jucatogo to /etc, right-click on the fstab file -> Actions -> Edit as Root01:54
geniiSchuenemann from Konsole:  sudo nano /etc/fstab          also works01:54
geniiJucato I keep forgetting gui solutions LOL01:55
Schuenemann /dev/hda2       /media/hda2     reiserfs defaults        0       201:55
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Schuenemannjust remove this?01:55
Jucato:P01:55
geniiYes, that entire line01:56
JucatoSchuenemann: remove it or put a # at the beginning of the line01:56
genii# is possibly safer01:56
Schuenemannok, I commented01:56
Schuenemannbtw, can I merge that partition into my kubuntu one?01:56
Schuenemannusing qtparted01:56
geniiYes01:56
Jucatohm.. kinda tricky, specially if Kubuntu is on hda301:57
Schuenemannactually, hda401:57
Schuenemannhda3 is swap01:57
Jucatooh.. then impossible...01:57
Schuenemannthey have to be neightbours?01:57
Jucatoyou can only mount it as a separate partition01:57
Schuenemannneighbours*01:57
Jucatomake it look like it's part of the filesystem01:57
animimotusJucato: now I have : "checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!"... Oo01:57
Jucatoanimimotus: kde-devel01:58
geniiYou can merge them, but then after boot to livecd and mount /dev/hda2 someplace then edit /mnt/place/etc/fstab    to change hda3 to hda2       then run grub-install01:58
animimotusok01:58
Schuenemanndamn01:58
Schuenemannnevermind then, I'll reinstall everything soon01:58
Jucatogenii: how can you merge hda2 and hda4?01:58
Schuenemannwill be easier01:58
Schuenemannmaybe creating the boot at hda2?01:59
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geniiJucato he deleted hda2 and hda3 is / so they will both merge to be hda201:59
SchuenemannI mean creating the swap01:59
geniihda4 I dunno :)01:59
Jucatogenii: I didn't remember him saying he deleted hda301:59
animimotusJucato: do you have a whole line command for install packets to compil and package on kubuntu ?01:59
Schuenemannno, it was hda201:59
Jucatoanimimotus: sudo apt-get install kde-devel :D01:59
geniihda3 = /01:59
animimotusJucato: ok ^^02:00
Schuenemanncan't I use livecd, merge hda2 and hda3, then create the swap at the beginning of "hda2" and merge the rest?02:00
geniiSchuenemann If a reinstall is not a huge issue it would save you some headaches with grub and editing fstab from live cd etc etc02:00
Jucatogenii: also, it's quite problematic to add space to the beginning of a partition. you can safely resize a partition from the end, but not from the beginning, afaik02:01
Schuenemannok, seems wiser to install everything02:01
SchuenemannI'm still with dapper02:01
geniiJucato Yes, ading to the front will be problemmatic02:02
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Schuenemannthanks :p02:03
geniiI will have to mess with the "merge root partition to lower partition" idea sometime :)02:04
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ZeroSystemhello, i am installling kubunto and doing it by manualy specifing the partition02:13
ZeroSystemdo i have to define a partition for swap02:13
ZeroSystemor is it automaticly done when i set the main partition02:14
ZeroSystemand what is the file type i should choose02:14
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geniiZeoSystem In manual mode swap is not automatically setup unless you choose to use the entire disc. A swap is not mandatory. If you do specify one the partition type would be linux swap and the file system type would be swap02:20
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ZeroSystemi have 2 partitions on the HDD and i want to put a full 20GB for the linux02:21
ZeroSystemand its on hidden02:21
ZeroSystem'didnt partition it when installed windows02:21
max_some of the choices in the adept installer (add remove programs) are grayed out, how do i fix this?02:22
Pensacolaevery icon I hover over in konqueror turns dark, how to fix it?02:22
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geniiZeroSystem You can safely boot with no swap partition.02:23
geniiA customer arrived, I am away for some time now02:25
max_some of the choices in the adept installer (add remove programs) are grayed out, how do i fix this?02:25
burepedoes anyone know the link for the how to on fixing choppy video playback?02:26
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masaheeroconnection lost ><02:28
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masaheerogenii what is the file system i should choose since i dont need to put swap ?02:29
geniimasaheero On a root filesystem  you should always have either ext2 or ext302:30
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geniimasaheero For the partition type it should be Linux    partition type02:30
masaheerowhat do you recomend me to do i am installing with a hardisc that has 1 ntfs partition and 1 not partitioned part02:31
masaheeroso i make it ext3 or 2 o.o02:31
geniimasaheero If the ntfs has your windows on it, leave that. On the second partition you can divide it up how you like. Kubuntu needs only about 2.5 Gb for a full install. So 20 for instance is more than enough.02:32
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alpedo19hola02:33
alpedo19alguien para preguntarle02:33
alpedo19hacerca de kubuntu02:33
alpedo19por fa02:33
geniimasaheero For a simple setup, just use the entire second partition for linux and forget about a swap. Then make sure that when grub installs to put it on the master boot record of hda for instance02:34
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alpedo19just a question02:34
alpedo19please help me02:34
Rashid!lock02:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:34
Rashid!/var/lock02:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about var/lock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:34
Rashidwhats the dpkg lock factoid??02:35
geniiRashid you have a program that will not stop or start because there is a lock file for it?02:35
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Jucato!adept crash fix | Rashid02:35
ubotuRashid: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'02:35
Rashidno i get this error when trying to aptitude update:02:35
Guard] [anplease, since the last upgrade of my kubuntu 6.10 , usb flashdrives are no more mounted automatically, is there something to fix manually or is there a pending update to do ?02:35
Rashidsudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin02:35
Rashidwait that wasnt it :S02:35
Rashidelt0n_afk: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? Reading package lists... Error! E: The package cache file is corrupted E: Cache has an incompatible versioning system02:35
max_rashid: get automatix, itll install java02:36
Rashidgenii what does it mean by my package cache file is corrupted?02:36
Jucato!adept crash fix | Rashid02:36
ubotuRashid: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'02:36
Rashidmax_ yuh i think i have already got java...i did that to double check but meh02:36
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max_some of the choices in the adept installer (add remove programs) are grayed out, how do i fix this?02:36
geniiRashid It would seem that you have mixed versions of two distributions somehow, or that the files in the apt cache got corrupted physically02:37
elt0n_afkRashid then you are not root or the adaptive update is running...02:37
Rashidelt0n_afk i am root...dunno what adaptive update is :S genii my sources.list is fine so maybe theres summin up with the repos??02:37
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geniiRashid "resource temporarily unavailable" means more than 1 copy seems to be running02:38
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JucatoRashid: did you try those commands arleady?02:38
Jucatoalready*02:38
Rashidjucato yup i did that sudo fuser thing command and now aptitude update works with no errors :D02:38
geniiRashid Jucato will point you in the right direction :)02:38
elt0n_afkRashid: sry i meant adept updater02:38
Rashidthanks guys :)02:38
Rashidelt0n_afk no problem...i think its working now02:39
elt0n_afkthe gui for updating under kubuntu02:39
elt0n_afkRashid: ok what was wrong?02:39
Rashidi jus got worried by the word "corrupt" :| lol i thought there might be a virus in the repos or something02:39
Rashidit gave me a load of errors about package cache corruption and database lock...but it works now02:39
Rashidprops to this channel. the ubuntu community is something else :D02:39
Rashidchow :)02:39
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geniiRashid "versioning system" error is odd. Did you run apt-get *upgrade*  recently instead of apt-get update   ?02:40
max_hes gone02:40
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geniibleh02:40
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geniiWell if it's something fatal I'm sure he'll be back LOL02:41
andreaswhi02:41
max_haha, ya02:41
max_man, i tried fedora tonight02:41
max_it sucks02:41
max_so does suse02:41
max_and basically anything else compared to the ubuntu family02:41
geniimax_ If yer interested in different distros maybe look at OpenSolaris02:42
max_im not interested02:42
Lynouremax_: If you want people to nod in agreement, write a detailed comparation somewhere.02:42
max_just got bored02:42
geniiHeh :)02:42
max_so tried some02:42
max_ubuntu has teh best package management02:42
Lynoureteh indeed.02:43
max_it took me 3 hours to find out how to install w32codecs in fedora02:43
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max_and i never did get flash working02:43
geniimax_ The Ubuntu community is much more helpful02:43
max_yes02:44
max_maybe someone can help02:44
max_i cant find where to turn on the kmenu transparency02:44
max_i ALWAYS forget where that is >> still dont remember after like 5 kubuntu installs02:44
geniiI never mess with it so I don't know where it could be found :)02:45
Jucatomax_: System Settings -> Appearance -> Style -> Effects tab02:45
Schuenemannis there any way I could disable the mouse wheel feature of switching applications?02:46
max_thanks02:46
Schuenemannwhen used at the task bar02:46
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fdovingSchuenemann: not that i'm  aware of, you can try to ask in #kde, please let me know if you find out how.02:49
Jucatodunno if that's possible...02:49
Schuenemannk02:49
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max_some of the choices in the adept installer (add remove programs) are grayed out, how do i fix this?02:50
Jucatomax_: choices, as in apps?02:50
max_yes02:50
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Jucatodapper or edgy? have you tried checking the "Unsupported" and the "proprietary software" options?02:51
max_edgy02:51
max_and yes02:52
Jucatohm..02:52
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geniiPerhaps some broken packages02:53
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max_almost half are grayed out02:53
codemonkey2anyone know about zeus webservers? i need to get an apache .htacces with rewrites working02:53
geniicodemonkey2 Most ppl here would be apache ppl :)02:54
codemonkey2yeah thought so02:54
codemonkey2any ideas where to try :)02:54
geniiYou are running zeus on ubuntu?02:55
codemonkey2no02:55
Jucatomax_: try checking if you have the proper repositories enabled?02:55
codemonkey2its on a shared host ive got02:55
codemonkey2hate it02:55
max_how do i do that Jucarto?02:55
geniicodemonkey2 I would look for an irc channel that is zeus specific02:55
codemonkey2mmm hard02:55
Jucatohm... wait.. I'm not sure that's the cause though...02:56
animimotusJucato: ./compil goes on but now I have : http://animimotus.pastebin.ca/29442502:56
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Jucatowhat are you trying to compile?02:58
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sebastien__salut all03:03
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stefan__I want to do a ssh tunnel from localhost:3307 to remote:330603:07
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stefan__so I did ssh -L 3307:remote:3306 stefan@remote03:07
animimotusJucato: this one http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=4118003:08
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stefan__I want know connect the remote mysql with localhost:330703:08
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stefan__but I have no luck03:08
stefan__can someon help?03:08
max_ummm...i have a MAJOR problem03:08
max_i uninstalled somthing, dunno what03:09
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max_but now my kubuntu is retarded, the graphics are stupid, i have no background, no pannel no anything03:09
Lynoureretarded and stupid means what?03:09
max_it looks old03:09
max_its hard to describe03:09
max_its "basuc"03:10
max_basic*03:10
max_i guess you would say03:10
abattoirmax_: a screenshot'd help03:10
max_ummm03:10
max_if i can fid a way to get to my kmenu03:10
max_which is nonexistant right now03:10
abattoiryou can post it at imageshack.us or even paste.ubuntu-nl.org03:10
abattoirmax_: try the print screen button03:10
abattoirelse, Alt+F2->ksnapshot03:11
max_and theres nothing to see, i have no background, no pannel no anything03:11
abattoirare you in KDE?03:11
max_yes03:11
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abattoiris the cursor an X ?03:11
max_no03:11
abattoirok... how did you start konversation? or are you on another machine?03:11
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max_i did an improper shutdown (ctrl+alt+backspace) so it restarted konversation since it was up when i logged out03:12
eMaXhi all03:12
eMaXne1 here uses wlassistant?03:12
max_abattoir: is is possible to reinstall KDE?03:13
max_i think KDE or KDM is my problem03:13
max_somthing like that03:13
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Lynoureyou could do apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and see what happens03:14
max_will try, brb03:14
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abattoirmax_: yes, it's possible, but might not be necessary03:14
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eMaXI am having problems connecting to one of my repeaters (siemens gigaset 108) using wlassistant. It keeps telling me that the connection was not successful.03:16
nacho86hi!03:16
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zero-9376hey can someone tell me how to set a default view profile in konqueror03:21
randlerIf I change the domain on my computer, does that affect wether or not sudo works properly?03:21
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ultm8[14:21]  <ultm8> getting an error message that says can't write buffer /home/usr/.avast/log/avastgui.log to disk03:22
ultm8[14:21]  <ultm8> any body got any clues03:22
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max__salut est ce que qq parle le francais svp03:27
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max_my pannel is missing, how can i get it back?03:30
intelikeyalt+f2   type in    kicker03:31
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Anon7885sziasztok03:32
geniissh -l user 192.168.0.10103:32
geniibleh wrong window :)03:33
max_nothing happens when i do that03:33
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intelikeymax_ did you hide it ?03:33
max_no03:33
geniimax_ Instead od alt-f2 then try right-ctrl left-alt f103:33
max__help knunbuntu link in french please and sorry for my englich03:34
HailandKillA kubuntu dapper file server is sharing a folder using nfs. If I type sudo mount freyja:/var/shared /mnt/shared, while it takes a while it does seem to mount correctly. my fstab reads http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39158/ Yet that doesn't seem to mount on boot, any ideas?03:34
intelikey!fr max__03:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fr max__ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:34
intelikey!fr | max__03:34
ubotumax__: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.03:34
HailandKillthe workstation, a laptop, is also on dapper03:34
max__thanks03:34
max_intelikey: i was having problems with kdm or kde, one of the two and i did aptt-get intall kubuntu-desktop, it fixed it but my pannel is missin03:35
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intelikeymax_ version ?    edgy ?03:36
max_yes03:36
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slow-motionhallo03:36
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intelikeymax_ try    gksu killall kicker && kicker03:37
max_how do i get a terminal up?03:37
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intelikeyor no     kdesu ^*03:37
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intelikeymax_ use the alt+f203:38
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intelikeyJucato :)03:38
max_ok, i did that03:38
max_still no pannel03:39
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geniimax_ does it give some informative message?03:39
max_noi03:39
geniieg: command not found     etc etc03:39
Jucatomax_: ok, press Alt+F2, type in "kcontrol", go to Desktop -> Panels and check where the panel is or if it's suddenly hidden. reset it's position03:40
HailandKill!nfs03:40
ubotunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.03:40
genii!nfsd03:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nfsd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:40
genii!rpc.nfs03:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rpc.nfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:41
geniidarn botu03:41
HailandKill:)03:41
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intelikeyhmmm. max_  and if you still don't see it.   open konsole and run  "ps -A x | grep kicker | grep -v grep "   see if it's running      i suppose it could be erroring out.03:42
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geniiintelikey Perhaps a stale lock file03:42
intelikeygenii does kicker use a lock file ?03:43
Jucatono.. once in a while, a wrong mouse movement seems to have a nasty behavior of suddenly hiding or repositioning itself somewhere03:43
geniiI do not for certain know but I imagine it must03:43
intelikeyJucato so it's a knows issue then ?03:44
geniimax_ when you run the command intelikey gave, does it show that kicker is running?03:44
JucatoI know it... not sure if it's a general KDE bug, or Kubuntu one...03:44
Jucatobut it does happen... and has happened...03:44
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intelikeyok that's probably all this is then.   i'll go back to being an idiot elsewhere.03:45
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capt_cosmoAnybody knows if there's a nice mail-notification (local mbox) applet for kde?03:46
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geniiInteresting... googlinf "missing kicker" "kde" produces results from gentoo sites about "missing kicker files" etc etc03:47
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geniiAlso kicker conf file03:48
Jucatowhich is not the case here, I'm sure...03:48
geniimax_ does something like "sudo ps ax |grep kicker" show some process with that name running aside from grep?03:51
Jucatogenii: no need for the sudo03:51
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geniiJucato I wasn't sure, thx :)03:51
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geniiJucato is he still here? I have no sidebar in ircii03:53
Jucatowhich side bar? channel list? nick list?03:53
geniiNick list03:53
geniiWell, any sidebars actually03:54
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JucatoSettings -> Configure Konversation -> Chat Window -> [ ]  Show channel nick list and quick buttons?03:54
Jucatoor did you accidentally resize them too small? :)03:54
geniiJucato That would be all and well if I had some X server installed :)03:54
Jucatohuh?03:55
Jucatowhat are you using?03:55
intelikey/user lists all users on the channel     /whois <blah>   will tell you if someone is still on the server genii03:55
geniiThis particular machine I am on is a minimalistic 6.06 server install, no X03:55
Jucatoirssi has no sidebars03:55
geniiircii03:55
geniinot irssi03:56
Jucatoum..not familiar with it03:56
geniiforgot about the whois tho, need to familiarize with the ol command line again :)03:57
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intelikeygenii both ^ are pasive tests,  you could /ping <blah> also,03:57
intelikeyor /ver <blah>03:57
geniiintelikey thx03:57
genii!ping03:58
ubotu64 bytes from ubotu (10.13.37.1): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=1.33 ms03:58
genii:) ubotu lives!03:58
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intelikeyas noted.   :)03:58
geniiheh  /ping max_ = max_:No such nick/channel03:59
geniiSo he's not unresponsive, just not here :)03:59
Jucato:O03:59
Jucatogenii: you forgot one '_'03:59
intelikeyJucato no03:59
intelikeythere was max_  and max__ here a minute ago04:00
Jucatoyes, but not now04:00
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intelikeyand max__ was looking for #*buntu-fr04:00
Jucatothe other max (max_) left minutes ago04:00
geniiWell he either got frustrated or found the answer LOL04:01
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geniiAAARRGGG stupid autoinstall works perfectly now except 1 stupid little thing which eats at me04:02
geniiAnd to which there seems no entry to make in a preseed file04:03
HailandKill!fstab04:04
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions04:04
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vikkethis may seem abit silly, but i accedently removed the bar in konqueror that shows File / View / Help and so on, how do i get it bakc? :P04:05
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intelikeygenii thing being ?04:05
intelikeyvikke maybe f904:06
intelikeyor ctrl+f904:06
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geniiintelikey kdm chunks out on first boot because for some reason 1280x1024 is default res to try. But 1024x768 works fine however is not first entry in xorg.conf even though I put (what I thought) a valid preseed directive for it04:07
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vikkeintelikey: that shows the sidebar, ctrl + f9 doesnt seem to do anything04:08
intelikeyvikke try ctrl+m04:08
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intelikeyvikke if that's not it  haller at jucato04:09
vikkeintelikey: wee, most irritating issue solved04:09
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intelikey:)04:09
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geniieg preseed file directive line: xserver-xorg xserver-xorg/config/display/modes select 1024x768 800x600 640x48004:13
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geniithe exact same line with depth 16 instead of mode just above it worked fine04:15
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intelikeygenii hmmm  but doesn't kubuntu default to reconfiguring xorg at boot time through some init script ?04:15
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geniiintelikey Well, that would be the point of a preseed, to specify values which would be asked for normally etc04:16
Jucato04:16
geniiso idea being: flip machine o 1 time. It botts up and installs Kubuntu. Unplug network, reboot it. Boots up into kdm etc etc04:16
hyper_chhiho, is there a way to sync Kontact and Outlook?04:17
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intelikeygenii but when you reboot it reconfigs    no ?04:17
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geniiintelikey I do not think so because the preseed values for i810 driver, colour depth mouse type keubd layout  etc etc were all successfully configured in the preseed file04:18
geniiJust the default modes seem screwy04:18
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michaelpohow do you make gaim auto join a # of certain server?04:19
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intelikeyhmmm genii    if it's not in /etc/init.d/somethingoranother  idk.04:19
intelikeyback later maybe.04:20
geniiintelikey I'm dissecting the entire thing now04:20
geniibleh04:20
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geniiJucato Any ideas on that?04:21
MuJI just noticed my multimedia keys work without tweaking in edgy but how can I config what happens from which button?04:21
Jucatogenii: on?04:21
Jucatogenii: as you can see, I'm using Konvi :P04:21
Jucatoer nvm...04:21
Jucatothought it was a CTCP version request :P04:21
geniiJucato What preseed value or boot parameter may specify to use 1024x768 instead of 1280x102404:21
geniiHeh :)04:22
Jucatohm... not sure... vga=791?04:22
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geniihmm interesting04:22
JucatoI tend not to mess with boot stuff...04:22
genii:) I understand04:22
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Jucatoalthough I'm dying to throw out USplash and use Splashy instead...04:23
geniiI think I need to go make a coffee run and think about it on the front step with a cig04:23
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jtmoneyhow do i install the 686 kernel? it says it's "obsolete" now =(04:24
jtmoneyno, i don't want to compile one from scratch04:25
Jucatowhy do you need the 686 kernel?04:25
Jucato!generic | jtmoney04:25
ubotujtmoney: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)04:25
jtmoneyubotu: thank you04:25
ubotuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)04:25
Jucatolol!04:26
Jucatofinally, an intelligent response to that :)04:26
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x-factor_!italian04:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about italian - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:27
jtmoneyJucato: thank you hah04:27
x-factor_!italian languadge04:28
Jucato!it | x-factor_04:28
ubotux-factor_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!04:28
jtmoneynow one more quesiton... why is kubuntu so much faster than opensuse? ;)04:28
Jucatohahaha04:28
jtmoneyi'm serious, suse crawled on my machine04:28
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SchuenemannJucato: have you recompiled your kernel?04:34
montoyaHi, kdevelop is translated on italian?04:34
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JucatoSchuenemann: hm.. just last week, but just as an exercise... didn't absolutely needed to04:35
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Schuenemanndoes it really get faster? worth it?04:35
Jucatohaven't noticed, tbh04:35
Schuenemannhmmm04:36
Schuenemannhow much time did it take?04:36
Jucatocompiling? didn't notice either. I slept through it lol04:36
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Schuenemannmany hours huh?04:36
Jucatonot that many, I think...04:37
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jellybearhi there04:37
SchuenemannI'll pass... you didn't notice any change04:38
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JucatoSchuenemann: probably because my hardware didn't need special kernel stuff...04:39
JucatoSchuenemann: also, I didn't really configure or optimize the kernel I built... was too scared to do that lol04:39
Schuenemannwell, what changed then?04:39
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JucatoAdmiral_Chicago!!! (belated) merry christmas!! :)04:40
JucatoSchuenemann: new kernel :)04:40
Admiral_Chicagothanks04:40
dimitrishi04:40
Schuenemannnew kernel, but the same as the old one?04:40
dimitriskaneis apo greece;04:40
Schuenemann!gr04:41
ubotu#ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes04:41
JucatoSchuenemann: 2.6.19 kernel using (most of) the config of the default Kubuntu Edgy kernel04:41
Schuenemannthe version is not stable?04:41
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seb_hi04:41
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JucatoSchuenemann: what do you mean? 2.6.19.1 is the latest stable kernel version04:42
JucatoSchuenemann: I used this guide: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/CompilingYourOwnKernel04:42
SchuenemannI don't get it04:42
Schuenemannwhat version you had before?04:43
Admiral_Chicagohehe is that Hawk's guide?04:43
JucatoSchuenemann: the default Edgy kernel is 2.6.17-xx04:43
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: sort of :)04:43
jellybearq: i have a kubuntu 6.10 installed on a usb-stick, which seems to run fine except one important detail: network connections. when running /etc/init.d/networking (or dhclient3 respectively) as root it keeps telling me "Permission denied" upon running /lib/dhcp3-client/call-dhclient-script. checked access rights on all libraries involved and their containing directories and they seem to be ok. tried to remove and add user/group04:43
jellybeardhcp with ids 101/100 - no success. tried 'apt-get install --reinstall dhcp3-client' - no success either. any ideas as of what might be the problem?04:43
seb_does someone know how to make konquerror use the buttos back/forw from ones mouse? they works with firefox but not with konquerror :s04:43
Schuenemannisn't the new version available as update? you had to recompile it yourself?04:44
JucatoSchuenemann: the kernel version that I compiled was 2.6.1904:44
Jucatoand no, there's no 2.6.19 kernel available yet for Dapper04:44
Schuenemannbut you're using edgy!04:44
JucatoSchuenemann: no problem there04:45
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Jucatoer sorry04:45
Jucatogetting sleepy lol04:45
Jucato2.6.19 is not available for Edgy yet04:45
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Jucatoew?04:45
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Schuenemanndo you compiled because it was not available yet?04:46
Schuenemannso04:46
Jucato<Jucato> Schuenemann: hm.. just last week, but just as an exercise... didn't absolutely needed to04:47
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Schuenemannconfusing04:47
JucatoI compiled it because I wanted to learn/see how it was done04:47
Schuenemannok04:47
JucatoI don't need to compile a kernel because of hardware or anything. I just wanted to.04:47
geniiJucato did you menuconfig or hand editing ? ;)04:47
Jucatoand I compiled a kernel that was not available in Edgy yet04:47
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Jucatogenii: xconfig?04:48
JucatoI just used the guide I posted above...04:49
JucatoI'm no kernel expert, so...04:49
geniiJucato I'm sure you will be soon :)04:49
Schuenemannthe guide does not cover optimization04:49
Jucato<Jucato> Schuenemann: also, I didn't really configure or optimize the kernel I built... was too scared to do that lol04:49
SchuenemannI see04:49
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geniiOn my old RH I used to recompile my kernel every 2 weeks or so LOL04:50
Schuenemannmasoquism?04:51
geniiSchuenemann USB devices :)04:51
Admiral_Chicagomight want to check out http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu04:51
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JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: covers optimization?04:51
Schuenemanngenii: infrared?04:51
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Admiral_Chicagoi dunno, i just found the link now04:51
Admiral_Chicagolet me check04:51
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Jucatolol04:52
Jucatobaaad Admiral_Chicago... :P04:52
geniiSchuenemann No, mainly at that time non-standard mass-stoage like obscure reader such as sddr-51 sandisk smartmedia reader etc etc04:52
Admiral_Chicagono i don't think it does04:53
geniiStupid little cheapo things you need kernel support somehow for04:53
Schuenemannoptimization might be very specific, hard to put in a guide04:53
Jucatoyeah, but maybe general guidelines for specific optimizations lol04:54
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geniiI did a recompile for the bonding driver before too for testing04:54
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geniiAlso if you want an MPI or other type cluster kernel you will need to learn compiling04:56
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SchuenemannI have a book about that, but it's very old04:57
geniiJucato :)04:57
hyper_chwhy do I get this error message: "Could not start process for imap" in KMail/Kontact?04:57
Schuenemann199604:57
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geniiYour email server only uses pop?04:58
hyper_chgenii: nope, it's imap... works perfectly with TB04:58
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geniihyper_ch Ah OK :) No immediate other ideas then04:59
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hyper_chgenii: could it be because I'm on xubuntu?04:59
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geniihyper_ch Well, that Kmail/Kontact works there at all is a bit surprising05:00
hyper_chgenii: why shouldn't it work?05:00
geniihyper_ch Normally dependant on stuff in kde-core etc etc05:01
hyper_chgenii: I run quite a few kde appz:  k3b, amarok, konversation, krdc, krfb, kopete, kftpgrabber, ....05:01
geniiamarok is not neccesarily a kde app but OK I see you must somewhere have the kdelibs then05:02
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fdovingthe apps usually start whatever they need to run, in the background.05:03
geniiI would usually think the point to running xfce would be to rid the clutter etc LOL05:03
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hyper_chgenii: I don't like the KDE Desktop much but some of the appz are really great05:04
geniihyper_ch Well, anyhow... some clue may be found in the system logs... have you looked there yet?05:05
geniihyper_ch Also may be informative if the same apps work when run from kde but not xfce. Could be some issue relating to where the user conf files are.05:06
hyper_chgenii: no, haven't yet05:06
hyper_chevolution also works fine but I'd rather use Kontact05:07
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Schuenemannhouw about thunderbird?05:07
soulrider!xorg05:08
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:08
Schuenemannhow*05:08
geniihyper_ch /var/log/messages   or /var/log/syslog may have some hints05:08
Schuenemannhyper_ch: tried thunderbird?05:08
hyper_chgenii: syslog shows nothing05:08
hyper_chSchuenemann: tb works05:08
hyper_chSchuenemann: that's what I use up to now05:08
Schuenemanndon't you like it?05:08
fdovinghyper_ch: ~/.xsession-errors might have some hints.05:09
paulw_vmhyper_ch: I don't know how you're starting Kmail but you might want to start it in a terminal as that will sometimes display errors.05:09
Schuenemannpaulw_vm: all the times, to me05:09
hyper_chrunning from terminal helps :)   http://www.phpfi.com/18867305:10
hyper_chSchuenemann: I would like a PIM and KMail has one advantage over TB... when you forward emails in KMail you can edit the content of the forwarded email... you can't do that in TB or Evolution.....05:11
hyper_chwhy does it say unknown protocol "imap"?05:11
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paulw_vmSchuenemann: yes, me too.05:12
Schuenemannhyper_ch: I never noticed that, but maybe there's an extension05:12
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fdovinghyper_ch: do you have the package 'kdepim-kio-plugins' installed?05:12
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Schuenemannpaulw_vm: I found this: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.005:12
hyper_chfdoving: nope, that wasn't... isntalling it now05:13
fdovinghyper_ch: that'll do it. i guess.05:13
hyper_chfdoving: yes, now I only need to set the account data correctly :)05:13
hyper_chI'm still confused about this Plain, login, ..... things... don't have that on TB05:14
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geniiyes kio-plugins looks to be the most obvious culprit here05:15
fdovinghyper_ch: plain is OK if you can use secure imap, tls/ssl somehow. if not, try to use something else.05:15
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geniiyou may need notls sometimes05:15
hyper_chfdoving: I think it's no ecryption and "login"05:15
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KaIxOkCiao05:16
KaIxOkmi potete aiutare05:16
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KaIxOk??05:16
Schuenemann!it05:16
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!05:16
fdoving!it | kaixok05:16
ubotukaixok: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!05:16
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DaSkreechhyper_ch: You know you can use a different desktop and run KDE apps right? :)05:17
hyper_chDaSkreech: yes, that's what I'm doing :) I run Xfce05:18
DaSkreechWEll done :)05:18
hyper_chjust two more questions on Kmail: How can I make that when sending email that KMail will put the message into the sent box of the imap account? And how can I download all messages (and attachments) automatically for offline usage?05:19
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fdovinghyper_ch: you can select the folder for sendt messages for each identity. in the identity config, under advanced.05:21
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wanatroodoes someone use a mouse with more than 3 buttons in konquerror?05:23
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fdovinghyper_ch: as for the latter, you must select 'Disconnected IMAP' when adding the account.05:25
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hyper_chfdoving: thx :)05:25
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ankan_I have a swedish keyboard but not all keys are showing a light in "xkbwatch"05:27
ankan_any ideas how I can go about to debug this?05:27
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dropslhi05:27
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Schuenemann!se |  ankan_05:28
ubotuankan_: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se05:28
hyper_chfdoving: and where can I connect an identity with a certain email account? I have for multiple domains multiple IMAP accounts :)05:28
Schuenemannmight help :p05:28
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dropsli have a problem. kpowersave does not display the charge state of the battery... so i have to look manually in /proc/acpi/battery... does anoyne how to fix this? acpid and powersaved daemons are running...05:28
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geniiheh os390 ...damn fine batch processor that05:29
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fdovinghyper_ch: not sure you can do that on accounts, you can however do it on mailboxes, rightclick -> properties -> sender , or something like that.05:30
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hyper_chfdoving: thx :)05:32
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dropslacpi -b does return something right though... but why does kpowersave not recognize this?05:33
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geniiCrap is sysbell \7 or \13 ? I forgot05:36
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paulw_vmSchuenemann: thx for the link, took forever to load with daughter playing online games on wife's machine  :)05:36
geniieg :   echo $'\#'05:37
geniinvm 705:38
lokeeyeveryone here a kubuntu user?05:41
hyper_chnope05:41
geniiperhaps *ubuntu then LOL05:42
lokeeyheheh...right05:42
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lokeeyi got a quick one...05:42
lokeeyi'm using Kubuntu Edgy...05:42
lokeeyjust got a new monitor...Widescreen...HANNS-G...05:42
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geniiAnd evrything looks stretched out?05:43
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lokeeytweaked the settings...still have what appears to be a 1024x768 or 1280 res...although, the clarity is much improved...05:43
lokeeyanyone have similar monitor?05:44
Pirate-kingwhat is a good program to interface with an ipod?05:44
cathalupdate manager seems to only pick up security updates and not all updates, is it supposed to only do security updates?05:44
TheDebuggerPirate-king: Amarok does it05:44
Pirate-kingok05:44
geniicathal No, all updates for whatever you have installed. Just there are not tons of them usually05:45
lokeeyyeah...somewhat stretched out...looked blurry...but it looks better now05:45
lokeeygenii, yes...so now i'm just wondering...how i can get it down to look a bit smaller without losing the clarity05:45
cathalgenii: thx, its just i ran full upgrade in adapt recently and it picked up loads of updates that the update manager didn't05:46
Pirate-kingwhat kind of firewall is in kubuntu?05:46
Pirate-kingand antivirus?05:46
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geniilokeey Perhaps pick some resolution that gives 16:9 aspect ratio eg:1980x1020 or1280x72005:46
lokeeyright...yeah i've done that...i even ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg which helped a lil05:47
geniicathal upgrade is different than update05:47
cathalgenii: yea i taught so, just makin sure thx05:48
geniicathal upgrade = go to next kernel version/app version etc etc   update = get neccessary fixes05:48
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hyperactivecrondubuntu's wiki is timing out constantly...05:50
hyperactivecrondd'oh firewall05:50
hyperactivecrondnvm05:50
hyper_chfdoving: do you know how I can create pgp keys for us with kontact?05:51
geniilokeey when you look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf file does it have a display mode like that under section where DefaultDepth    and so on is?05:51
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fdovinghyper_ch: don't know, kgpg might help you.05:54
lokeeygenii, yes...05:54
geniilokeey Well, OK then it likkely already using the proper resolution05:54
lokeeyand it has the modes in there...1440x90005:54
geniiSo it would likely be in Monitor sections someplace05:55
geniieg Default Screen or similar05:56
lokeeyyeah05:57
genii<- AFK, customer05:57
lokeeybrb05:58
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hattaholy crap, I installed a png icon theme and suddenly kde is usable06:03
hattaman I was almost going to go back to fluxbox too06:03
lokeeyhahah...06:04
lokeeyfluxbox is cool06:04
hattayeah I still like it, but I'd like this box to have a desktop anyone can use06:04
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lokeeydamn! think i'll go make myself one, too!06:12
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geniiInteresting... I forced the xorg.conf file resolutions by cp over a known good config during the automated install but now it just keeps restarting the system log and no kdm06:13
lokeeyhmmm...mine crashed a few minutes before i jumped in here for help06:14
geniimethinks I need to just install 1 system conventioanlly then create a preseed from that install06:14
lokeeythat's what i was trying to do when i got this monitor...and now i can't get sound from amarok06:16
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lokeeyi was also using easyubuntu...and now i'm having probs with that, too06:17
geniilokeey :(06:18
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tony_im looking for small mp3 player that that allow skin costomization .there was one for linux , i forgot the name . is it beep or bep or somehting06:21
ccctony_: beep-media-player possibly06:21
tony_thanks06:21
cccbmp06:21
lokeeyi'll figure it out, tho...no big deal06:22
Guard] [anwhat's a good emule clone ?06:23
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lokeeyaight...gonna get at this Gears game06:26
lokeeythnx for ur help, genii06:26
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geniilokeey np, have fun06:26
tony_how can i stop some apps to start on kubuntu startup ???? such as amarok06:27
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wmcinnishi i got a question iam trying to install this program and iam getting this error .: 1565: linux.config: not found06:30
citr0nHello. My KWallet loses all my passwords when I restart my computer. Anyone knows a way to fix this problem?06:30
hyperactivecrondwmcinnis: what program06:30
hyperactivecrondare you using apt-get to install it?06:30
hyperactivecrondare you compiling it from source?06:31
wmcinnisits dazuko06:31
wmcinnisits a kernel module06:31
hyperactivecronddo you have kernel source installed?06:32
wmcinnisyes06:32
wmcinnisi think its in this program06:32
hyperactivecronduh no06:32
hyperactivecrondprobably not06:32
wmcinniswell i went into the file06:32
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wmcinnisand ran ./configure06:32
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wmcinnisand got the same error06:32
hyperactivecrondok well do me a favor and run uname -r and tell me what that outputs06:33
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hyperactivecrond(from a terminal)06:34
wmcinnis2.6.17-10-38606:34
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hyperactivecrondok, do sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.1706:35
wmcinnislinux-source-2.6.17 is already the newest version.06:36
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TheDebuggerAnyone has the dumb problem of having his statusbar in amarok messed up when playing a song?06:36
TheDebuggerIt displays HTML instead06:37
hyperactivecrondwmcinnas: cd /usr/src/; ls06:37
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wmcinnisdazuko.tar.gz  linux  linux-headers-2.6.17-10  linux-headers-2.6.17-10-386  linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic  linux-source-2.6.17.tar.bz2  mga-vid.tar.gz  modules06:37
hyperactivecrondwmcinnas: tar -xjvf linux-source-2.6.17.tar.bz206:38
hyperactivecrondwmcinnas: sudo tar -xjvf linux-source-2.6.17.tar.bz206:38
hyperactivecrondsorry need the sudo06:38
wmcinnisgot it06:39
wmcinnishad to remove dash06:39
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hyperactivecronduh you need the dash iirc06:40
hyperactivecrondoh i get it06:40
hyperactivecrondin linux-source06:40
hyperactivecrondnvm06:40
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hyperactivecrondafter tar finsishes, try recompiling your package06:42
hyperactivecronds/package/program06:42
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hateanyone here have any experience with nvidia driver install.. .im new to linux and need some help06:43
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steveireAnyone have a relatively new installation and able to tell me kubuntu font defaults?06:43
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hatesteveire i can tell you if you tell me what im looking for... just installed 30 min ago06:44
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steveirehate: Ok, well I'll see if I can give you a hand first. I don't know about NVidia, but what is your question?06:45
trappist!nvidia > hate06:45
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hatety06:46
steveireI'm looking for the font defaults for kubuntu. KMenu > System settings > Fonts or something. Can someone tell me which fonts are used for each type?06:47
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Lam_is there a faster way to perform this tasK? :: $ md5sum A/* > A.md5  $ md5sum B/* > B.md5  $ cat A.md5 B.md5 > C.md506:50
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steveireLam_: Join them with &&?06:52
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Lam_steveire: not what i had in mind, but thanks for the suggestion06:53
steveireLam_: md5sum A/* > A.md5  && md5sum B/* > B.md5  && cat A.md5 B.md5 > C.md506:53
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steveireYou could use python06:53
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tony_is there mail notifier that can check hotmail accounts ???06:54
tony_and stay in system try06:54
tony_?06:54
steveireLam_: Could you look in kcontrol > fonts and tell me what defaults you have?06:54
Lam_sans serif06:54
steveiretony_: I think kmail does notifications06:54
Lam_except for fixed width. that one is monospace06:54
bornhello06:54
steveireLam_: Hmmm, My fonts look quite crap. I've done a minimal install, and I remember them looking better before.06:55
tony_i used kmail, but it wont look at the hotmail.06:55
tony_im using tunderbird onw06:55
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tony_problme with hotmail is that  pop and smtp is not known to public. so i can not set that up06:56
steveiretony_: gotmail?06:56
tony_:|06:56
Lam_steveire: try turning antialiasing for fonts on, with full hinting06:56
tony_i will check that out on google06:56
tony_thanks06:56
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geniiHeh think i have the resolution thing licked but I'll know after another complete automated install :)06:56
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steveireLam_: I've got that already. RGB hinting. The fonts look like they did under dapper. I don't know what changed in edgy to make them look nicer. I'll get a livecd or something.06:57
geniicommented examples in the conf file = wrong syntax06:57
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steveiretony_: sudo aptitude install gotmail06:57
hastesaverHi, I just switched to KDE and it looks ugly (maybe i've changed something); how do I revert all changes? is it ok to delete ~/.kde ?06:57
tony_steveire thanks06:57
Lam_steveire: i don't use a sub pixel hinting. i just use full hinting style06:58
animimotusafter a rm -rf ~ could my sister retrieve her datas ?06:58
Lam_animimotus: nope. you're pretty much screwed06:58
Lam_animimotus: i did that on my Desktop once. it was horrible06:58
steveireLam_: Cheers. I'll check it out. I'll have to restart applications to wsee effects...06:58
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hastesaveranimimotus, find a recovery expert. Usually, yes. Don't muck about with it yourself (or even boot); you might ruin it06:59
Chousukeit's possible, but you probably need an expert to do it :P06:59
animimotussp no way ? with a live cd ?06:59
tony_reading the site . that way to complex for me to configure ..06:59
animimotus* so no way ?06:59
hastesaveranimimotus, cough up enough money, and you're sure to get most of your data back :-)06:59
Lam_animimotus: if you really want to try to recover the data, try not altering the disk. any continuous disk writes could potentially destroy the data by writing over it06:59
geniianimimotus Thats about right07:00
animimotusso with what kind of command on tools ?07:00
animimotus* or07:00
hastesaveranimimotus, see http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4500482.stm There's a lot that experts can do; but probably rm -rf is worse than "physical" accidents :-)07:01
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steveireanimimotus: Look up hirens boot cd. Might help07:01
steveirerm -rf is dangerous07:01
geniiYou need a diskeditor etc07:01
steveireAlias rm to rm -i if I were you.07:01
hastesaveranimimotus, and in general, install libtrash and all that stuff...07:01
hastesaversteveire, bad idea. I know people who've gotten used to *always* typing \rm instead of rm :-)07:02
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steveirehehe07:02
geniiThen you need to have some idea where the first entry is for the files, find it, change some bytes back to make the sectors think data is on it etc etc.... horrible horrible stuff07:02
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hastesaversteveire, I've aliased rm to "rm -v". I've learnt to be careful, but the couple of types I've done something wrong; I've been able to stop before too much bad happens. Without the "-v", you might wait a long time, wonder why it's taking so long, before reaching epiphany :-)07:04
karmikazeanyone else get beryl problems where windows come up just black07:04
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geniiYou could try gddrescue if you're really desperate but I doubt it would work too well07:05
hastesaveranimimotus, packages: libtrash (no use now), e2undel, foremost, gddrescue (any others?)07:06
MrVincentHey guys I'm having some problems with my Kubuntu installation. I had an old 20Gig Hard Drive and a 3.2Gig on, the 3.2 one with Windows ME on it. I booted on the Kubuntu live CD and went to install it. When came the disk choice part, I chose the 20 Gig and the 3.2 was not supposed to be touched. Now neither of the disks boot correctly, the 3.2 alone mentions Grub even if Linux is not supposed to be on it and the 20 Gig says it has 07:06
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ArdarandirMrVincent: so you have your small harddisk configured als being first one07:08
hastesaveranimimotus, two more, mondo and recover. Thanks to you, I now have a list of packages I plan to try :-)07:08
animimotushastesaver: ^^07:08
MrVincentYes, if I unplug the 20Gig and boot on the 3.2, it talks about Grub. During Kubuntu's installation I chose to install it on the 20g and leave the 3.2 untouched. How come now the 3.2 talks about Grub when the 20g is not plugged?07:09
ArdarandirMrVincent: i guess, grub has been installed in the bootsector of the 3.2 GB one, but coz you switched your disks in your BIOS, it is not linked correctly07:09
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animimotushastesaver: so could we try together ?07:09
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MrVincentSo you mean Windows ME is still there?07:09
geniiMrVincent because grub likes to be on the master boot record of the first hard drive.07:09
ArdarandirMrVincent: coz GRUB has been written to the 3.2-Bootsector07:09
ArdarandirMrVincent: sure07:09
geniiyes, ME/Windoz still there07:09
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hastesaveranimimotus, except that I haven't lost any important data, and can afford to make mistakes or try sub-optimal solutions. :-)07:10
ArdarandirMrVincent: its just the bootsector...07:10
ArdarandirMrVincent: do a "map (1,0) (0,1)" or like that to the GRUB-bootmenu07:10
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ArdarandirMrVincent: which is to be changed via /boot/grub/menu.lst07:11
Ardarandirwth "nano" e.g.07:11
Ardarandiri gotta reboot for a new kernel... good luck!07:11
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geniiMrVincent If you hit ESC when grub message starts do you get a selection to choose from?07:13
genii(that is the normal mode of operation)07:13
VR_how do i get the latest amarok version in dapper?07:13
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MrVincentRight now I'm putting back the 20 G in07:14
MrVincentSo I have both of them07:14
geniiMrVincent if grub is properly seeing the file menu.lst on the 20g, hitting ESC when it starts with grub stage 1.5 etc should pull up a list of operating systems it knows about07:15
MrVincentYeah07:16
geniiMrVincent 3.2G = /dev.hda  20G = /dev/hdb   etc07:16
MrVincentThe problem was that grub didn't see the 20G at all :)07:16
genii*/dev/hda*07:16
MrVincentYeah I know that...07:16
MrVincentHey btw once you have Dapper installed, is it easy to switch to Edgy?07:16
geniiMrVincent I would assume (normally) That 3.2 is master on first IDE cable and 20g is slave on master IDE cable?07:17
MrVincentYeha07:17
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geniiOK, so hopefully linux was put to /dev/hdb2 and not some partition of /dev/hda then by mistake (very common mixup)07:18
MrVincentWell I chose hdb in the installation07:18
MrVincentShouldn't be on hda07:18
geniiMrVincent Did you tell grub to install to hdb or to hda?07:19
geniihda= preferred07:19
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MrVincentIt didn't ask for Grub07:19
MrVincentIt asked for Kubuntu itself07:19
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Ardarandirre07:20
geniiDuring install--- it has some part where it asks where to put the bootloader usually. The second mistake would be to say put it on /dev/hdb or /dev/hdb2     etc etc07:20
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geniiinstead of master boot record on first drive eg: /dev/hda07:21
MrVincentI'm installing DApper btw07:21
geniibut if 3.2 shows grub prompt likely it installed there07:21
geniiMrVincent it is the same in any *ubuntu install07:22
MrVincentOh... Well it's booting fine now anyway07:23
MrVincentGrub popped and I chose Kubuntu, yay it works :)07:23
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geniiHeh :) Good. To see the windoze as a selection, as before, hit ESC before grub starts to boot an OS07:23
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MrVincentWell Windows was in the list07:23
MrVincentBut why would I choose it over Kubuntu anyway :P07:24
genii:)07:24
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MrVincentI kept it because that's the last Hard Drive with ME fully upgraded I could get, they don't let you download the updates anymore. Our first comp too07:24
geniiWin ME = seriously borked more than usual M$ stuff anyhow07:24
MrVincentAlright so now I have Ubuntu on a 200G at my mother's place and Kubuntu on a 20G at my father's... What a great way to start using Linux and learn :) Heh and I received Redhat and Fedora CDs for Christmas ^^07:26
geniiMrVincent if you like checking out all the linux flavours go to distrowatch.com :)07:27
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MrVincentAlright07:28
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geniiI use some embedded distros like what comes with Asterisk@home  (Centos) etc or Linuxrouter (later Coyote)07:29
jason__.07:29
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MrVincentHey was it you that found a DNS for me last night when I was trying to connect to the internet? In the Ottawa area? How did you do it?07:31
geniiMrVincent Yes :) Glad you remembered07:31
geniiMrVincent as it happens I work for a Toronto ISP, we used to have Magma as our wholesale DSL supplier so I knew about their setup07:32
MrVincentI see, could you give me the DNS again? It wasn't saved with the installation07:33
geniiMrVincent LOL alright give me a minute07:33
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Admiral_Chicagoirvin: type this. /join #ubuntu-chicago07:35
MHKdid somebody install Openoffice2.1?07:35
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jason__hello everyone07:35
geniiMrVincent dns1.magma.ca = 206.191.0.203  dns2.magma.ca = 206.191.0.13907:35
MrVincentThanks a lot07:35
geniinp07:36
jason__im brand new to kubuntu...and am wondering how to get flash player and java to work in firefox07:36
Admiral_Chicago!restricted07:36
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:36
MHK!restricted07:36
jason__use the restricted depository??07:36
MHK!restricted | MHK07:36
ubotuMHK: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:36
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Naradahi guys; what do i add to my sources.lst if i want a package from feisty?07:37
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geniiNarada Exact same layout as any dapper or edgy just change those to read feisty instead07:38
Naradagenii: hmm can i have both edgy and feisty in my sources07:38
geniiNarada You are running feisty or some other and only want a package from there??07:38
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Naradagenii: running edgy but want trac from feisty07:39
geniimixing dists = no good07:39
geniiI wouldn't do it07:39
Naradagenii: yeah but the trac in edgy is f*cked07:39
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Naradathey should backport it :(07:39
Naradawhich they haven't done07:39
Naradai just don't understand why they don't have one tree so everyone can share in the releases07:39
genii!trac07:39
ubotutrac is an open source, enhanced wiki and issue tracking system for software development projects. Look here for a Trac How To on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTracHowto07:39
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geniibah doesn't say what subdir in repo07:40
Naradagenii: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/trac/+bug/7633207:40
Naradagenii: rejected07:40
geniiIf you know what subdir you could add just that line and chance it...but again I would say it is risky business07:40
Naradasigh this sucks :)07:40
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Naradas/:)/:(/07:41
MrVincentAlright brb07:41
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TheDebuggerI want a libgpod backport so i could get album arts on my ipod..07:41
dec_is there a way to upgrade to the latest version of ubuntu from terminal?07:41
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Naradajust makes me want to go back to single tree distros07:41
geniiwtf? automated netboot install went AOK but empty xorg.conf now .... BLEH07:41
Naradadec_: yeah just to a google search there's plenty of pages with that info07:41
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genii!libnewt07:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libnewt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:46
geniihmm07:46
genii!newt07:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about newt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:46
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geniiubou You disappoint me :)07:46
genii^ ubotu07:47
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motsjust wanted to install kde -dev packages07:49
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motswasn't able to do so, as07:49
motslibarts1-dev:07:49
mots  Hngt ab: libarts1c2a (=1.5.4-0ubuntu1), aber es wird 1.5.5-0ubuntu1 installiert.07:49
mots  Hngt ab: libartsc0-dev (=1.5.4-0ubuntu1), aber es wird 1.5.5-0ubuntu1 installiert.07:49
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geniimots add devel  to the lists of repos in /etc/apt/sources.list07:49
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geniiIf I understand the german it is sayiong you have later versions already installed07:51
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BeLinuxisch habe problm mit ISA07:51
cathalwith gftp, if a folder contains more than 2 subfolders, everthing with the 3rd subfolder and after is not transfered07:51
BeLinuxmots: wie aktiviere ich meine ISA PnP Netzwerkkarte in Kubuntu07:52
geniicathal use wget07:52
fdovingmots: you've found a "bug", the arts version numbers in edgy are lower than the ones at kubuntu.org, force a downgrade with apt-get install packagename=version07:52
fdoving!de | belinux07:52
ubotubelinux: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de07:52
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geniiisch habe problam mit alle ISA07:52
geniiLOL07:52
BeLinuxk english then here07:53
BeLinuxhehe genii07:53
cathalgenii: cant don't have shell access on this perticular server07:53
BeLinuxhow do i activate an ISA PnP Nic in Kubuntu?07:53
geniiBeLinux :)07:53
iberthi! does anybody know a manual for the syntax of the authorized_keys2 file? I want to activate only some few commands.07:53
geniiBeLinux your better bet is to specify irq addfress etc in /etc/modules07:53
BeLinuxgenii my programmin skills are limited...IRQ? well..its a PnP card07:54
geniieg 3c905  <new line>  alias eth1 3c905 irq=5 addr=220    <-- like so07:54
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BeLinuxwhat is isapnp? is there an easy way of doing it?07:55
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BeLinuxoh i see..well..i can try that..but can i do this over a GUI?07:55
geniiBeLinux What is the model of your nic? Some have a way to use a dos boot disk with a small config program with which to set the hardware for old OS like win95 etc07:55
BeLinuxcode of any kind causes headdache to me..07:56
BeLinuxATI Telesyn 2000 PnP ISA07:56
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BeLinuxthis card runs out of the box in stinkin windows07:56
BeLinuxwondering why not in linux07:57
geniiBeLinux You can use sudo Konsole then open it in some editor like nano07:57
geniiBeLinux If you can and still have windoze, go to control panel there and write down the irq etc etc it uses there.07:58
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geniiThen need to find which module or chipset it needs07:58
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genii(for linux operation)07:58
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BeLinuxno config tool for ISA cards out there?07:59
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geniiBeLinux especially if it is an OEM intel EEPro, no07:59
BeLinuxby the way at startup, at the very beginning i see isapnp and then the name of my card!07:59
BeLinuxbut in the GUI its nowhere...07:59
geniiPerhaps you have multiple nics?08:00
BeLinuxgenii: i eliminated  windows and microsoft out of my life08:00
geniiIf more than just eth0 sometimes an entry in /etc/network/interfaces  for extended ethX is needed08:00
BeLinuxno microsoft products in my house now08:01
BeLinuxgenii: yes, 208:01
geniiBeLinux Then examine /etc/networking/interfaces   for an eth1   entry08:01
BeLinuxone is this one..realtek (ADSL),,ther other the ISA card for my  home network08:01
BeLinuxok just a moment08:02
BeLinuxiface eth0 inet static08:03
BeLinuxaddress 127.0.0.108:03
BeLinuxnetmask 255.255.255.008:03
BeLinuxonly eth008:03
BeLinuxthats my adsl realtek card08:03
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geniiOK so then as a test: add in there auto eth1 <new line> iface eth1 inet dhcp               then save it. After you may need to restart networking by /etc/init.d/networking restart08:05
BeLinuxI LAG terribly here, sorry08:05
geniiBeLinux np08:05
geniiBeLinux you will have a disconnect btw from here when /etc/init.d/networking restart08:06
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geniiIf you get grief editing or running the network scrip use sudo08:06
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BeLinuxi lag terribly08:08
geniiBeLinux Ok if that worked, in Konsole   ifconfig   should show  lo  eth0 eth108:08
geniiperhaps others08:09
BeLinuxi will try it, just a moment08:09
geniiOK08:09
geniiPerhaps no IP for eth1 if no dhcp server there but thats ok08:10
BeLinuxonly gives me eth0 ng lo ppp008:10
BeLinuxlinux doesnt like ISA..what a pitty..they say its friendly to old hardware ;)08:10
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geniiBeLinux what is the exact make of the isa card?08:11
VR_i think i have the same problem08:11
geniieg: dlink 530TX     realtek 8139C    etc08:11
VR_my card never worked08:11
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geniiif pci and isa card same make, need to make an alias for second instance of module etc08:12
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VR_genii: how is that done?08:14
MrVincentHey guys no where I could get drivers for my HP Photosmart C6100?08:15
MrVincentknow*08:15
geniiVR_ in /etc/modules you put like so:  alias 8139NEW 8139  <new line> alias eth1 8139NEW <new line> alias eth0 813908:15
BeLinuxgenii: Allied Telesyn AT-2000 Plug and Play Ethernet adapter08:15
geniiAs a primitive sample for 2 813908:15
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VR_genii: i see08:16
VR_thanks08:16
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BeLinuxwith  3 different connectors08:16
BeLinuxne2000 compatibel08:16
jason__can someone tell me what package i hafta install to get java to work within firefox08:16
geniiso in ne2000 compat use ne2k   as original module name08:17
BeLinuxok i will try it08:17
geniimost novel ne2k compats use irq 3 and addr 20008:17
geniisometimes 22008:17
jason__im a new user and i cant seem to get java applets to work in firefox08:18
geniiAFK, need a walk :)08:18
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MrVincentSo where could I get Photosmart c6100 drivers for kubuntu?08:22
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BeLinuxgenii, thanks see you later08:28
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geniiBeLinux np, and good luck :)08:30
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geniiwow, zaire08:30
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geniiSince it's quiet :)  Anyone successfullt compile Conexant HSF/HCF modem drivers under Edgy yet?08:36
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geniiAnd my current puzzler: Is there an xserver-xorg directive in a preseed file for dapper automated netboot install that can override default /etc/X11/xorg.conf resolutions08:38
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geniiIf anyone solves that one before me and lets me know I'll buy you an official Ubuntu tshirt08:39
genii:)08:39
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faLUCEHi, thi is the result of configure script for a program "checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0.3) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!". Qt are installed, so which flag i have to add when launching configure?08:42
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geniifaLUCE You are installing from source?08:43
faLUCEgenii: yes08:43
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hackeron_anyone know a method of realtime encryption of a directory where konqueror/nautilus will just ask for a password?08:43
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mm260865hi ppl:-] 08:44
geniifaLUCE have you compiled anything else on this same system before now? eg: does your system have the proper build-essential kernel-headers  linux-source     etc etc08:44
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faLUCEgenii: already solved. thnks anyway08:44
mm260865I need help!08:45
MrVincentHey people, i'm quite new to Linux and I was wondering if .run files downloaded from sourceforge could be trusted? I heard I should not download anything form the net... I'm dling HPLIP which I found from a link from the HP website itself, can it be trusted?08:45
geniifaLUCE :) good   was it -dev needed to be installed for the headers? Just curious08:45
ScarFreewillwhats a nice video converter?08:45
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faLUCEgenii: kdebase-dev08:46
nixternalMrVincent: what is wrong with the HPLIP in Kubuntu?08:46
geniifaLUCE thx08:46
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geniimm260865 What do you need help with?08:47
ZeroSystemhello, i just installed kubunta when i couldnt enable the wireless network card and it tells me there is something wrong with the window application08:47
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geniiThe Dr is in :)   (willis that is)08:49
ZeroSystemhi Dr.08:49
ScarFreewillwhats a nice video converter ? like one that i can convert avi to 3gp and stuffs08:50
geniiGeez both of those are proprietary AND widoze centric to boot08:51
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geniiAll -> flacc08:52
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mm260865I tried to install kde following the wiki "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-deskotp" and I can not08:52
geniimm260865 Is there an error which appears when you do this?08:53
geniieg: can't find package     or anything else08:53
mm260865yes there is: it's says MD5Sum not the same!08:55
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geniimm260865 before the kubuntu-desktop install, then, use first:   sudo apt-get update08:56
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mm260865<genii> I did it already...and I ended up with the same error!08:56
smoothiesis there a way to make the icons of newly downloaded object not always pop up at the top left hand corner08:57
geniimm260865 OK then. What version of ubuntu are you using now? Dapper, egy etc?08:57
genii*edgy*08:57
mm260865Ubuntu edgy08:57
geniimm260865 So then check in /etc/apt/sources.list to make sure it also says edgy  in places and not something like dapper or feisty or hoary etc etc08:58
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ZeroSystemgenii, i just installed kubunta 6.10 and it doesnt detects the wireless pci plus the window application things pops saying somethign is wrong with it what should i do ?09:01
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smoothiesZeroSystem, did u install ndiswrapper?09:01
geniimm260865 If all dist names there match your real installed version, you may need to change the repository which is the default one in there, usually some format like http://COUNTRYCODE.archive.ubuntu.com       etc etc09:02
ZeroSystemno i dont know what is that09:02
smoothiesZeroSystem cuz you need ndiswrapper and then use the command: ndiswrapper -i wireless_pci_driver, to get it to work09:02
smoothiesyou need to download the latest wireless pci driver from the company's website09:02
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ZeroSystembut company only support windows09:02
smoothies....09:03
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smoothiesZeroSystem that's why u need ndiswrapper...09:03
strHi all!09:03
geniiZeroSystem Hello :) Yeah, ndiswrapper is the usual solution. For some Broadcom wireless you need other stuff like fwcutter and so on as well09:03
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smoothiesZeroSystem you still need to download the driver from the company's website09:03
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smoothiesZeroSystem it's supposed to be for windows09:03
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smoothieswhat's your wireless card?09:03
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ZeroSystembaffalo09:04
ZeroSysteminternal pci09:04
strI have a wireless conection, and it works fine...  but, what could I do so that my connection always start when I login?09:04
wimpieshi all, can you use krfb (remote desktop) in reverse mode (i.e. the viewer LISTENS to the server) ?09:04
smoothiesdo u also run normal connection?09:04
smoothiesstr that question was for u =)09:04
geniiHeh my earlier tshirt offer for the netboot solution is now off the table :) :) I have solved it09:04
wimpiesIf not, how can I simulate this (as winVNC can ?)09:04
geniibaffalo is the brand name of the wireless card???09:05
strsmoothies: I only use my wireless conection here in the office, but when I'm @home I do not use it09:05
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smoothiesZeroSystem do you have more than the brand name for ur wireless driver tho?09:05
ZeroSystemya a sec let me get the module09:05
smoothiesstr wait so the computer your trying to make wireless connect automatically, does that computer use a normal internet connection besides wireless?09:06
geniimm260865 Are you still alive over there?09:06
smoothiesstr cuz i'm thinking you could just disable the normal connection, and wireless would come on automatically09:06
smoothiesstr i only use wireless on my desktop and it connects wireless during login09:06
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strsmoothies: I disable the eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces09:07
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mm260865yes09:07
mm260865I followed the instructions and I've got the same problem09:08
smoothiesstr u mean it was disabled already?09:08
smoothiesZeroSystem could you do lspci, and then it'll show and output ur wirless pci driver09:08
geniimm260865 OK. What was the name of the archive in sources.list?09:08
strsmoothies: but I would like something like the windows system.. that it detects if I can reach the wireless network, and connects automatic.. not wait for me to connect to it09:08
geniieg:  us.archive.ubuntu.com      nz.archive.ubuntu.com   etc09:09
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smoothiesstr you could try apt-get install wifi-radar, o and did u want to connect automatically to a specific network? and let me look at my wireless set up for a sec09:09
mm260865<genii> wait a minute09:10
ZeroSystemhttp://buffalotech.com/products/wireless/wireless-g-125-high-speed/wireless-g-125-high-speed-pci-adapter/09:10
ZeroSystemthis is the card09:10
geniimm260865 OK.09:10
ZeroSystemi am not useing kubantu now i dont have internet on it09:10
smoothiesZeroSystem cool, pls follow the guide here http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Installation, don't ignore the prerequisite section, be with u in a sec09:11
mm260865<genii> that was it..."http://gr.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main kubuntu-default-setting 1:6.10....09:11
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smoothieslol i just put kbfx on and now i can't find system settings, one sec =)09:12
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geniimm260865 So Greece repository. You could try replacing gr part of the urls with another country near to you perhaps, then sudo apt-get update     then finally sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop09:13
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geniimatthew_ :)09:15
matthew_hey genii guess what? my vnc connection didn't work! lol09:15
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mm260865<genii> will this update my system with the Kde version 4 greek or what?09:15
matthew_good to see you, genii09:15
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smoothiesstr o in my system settings/network settings, in the configuration box of wlan0, i have connect at computer startup box checked09:15
strsmoothies: that wifi-radar is the same thing as the one that comes with kubuntu as default.. it only let's you connect to the one you tell it to connect..09:16
geniimm260865 Every repository has multi-language installs. So no09:16
lerneaen_hydraend user question: I have a fresh install of 6.10, and am having some bootloader issues. My main rig has 6 harddisks, and I've installed kubuntu on the "last" one. (two are PATA, four SATA, kubuntu installed on sddX). I've set up a small /boot partition (sdd1) and the main root partition (sdd3), and installed the bootloader to sdd (and not hda). When starting grub loads nicely, but I get an error 17, cannot m09:16
lerneaen_hydraount partition when trying to boot it. Any ideas?09:16
geniimm260865 Whatever language you have now is what languaage gets installed09:16
smoothiesstr cool, do you have the wlan0 thing start at computer start up? i'm thinking u have that already, but just double checking09:16
mm260865thanks...09:16
lerneaen_hydra(i've checked that it tries to load the correct partition)09:16
geniimm260865 Np09:17
matthew_genii, I get the message (on my work computer) that there is no server running on that port/address...09:17
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mm260865<genii> how can I reload my backuped sources.list?09:17
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geniimatthew_ So is vncserver running on endpoint, router set up forwarding etc etc?09:17
strsmoothies: yes... if I do that, it will slow the booting  if it does not find the wireless connection (like if I move to other place) because it will try to connect with dhcp and it will not be able to do it09:17
matthew_genii, I started vncserver from the CLI with "vncserver"...was that wrong?09:17
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matthew_genii, yeah, router set up...I'm thinking I didn't start the server correctly09:17
geniimm260865 Where did you backup your sources.list to??09:18
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geniimatthew_ Yeah try with the default as :1 and not :0 for xterm screen09:18
mm260865<genii> wait a moment...09:18
geniimm260865 I am here :)09:18
smoothiesstr o, i'm not too sure then =( sorrie09:19
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geniimm260865 Before you tried to install kubuntu-desktop   from wiki instructions you made a copy of /etc/apt/sources.list ?09:19
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mm260865<genii> yes09:20
smoothiesstr maybe someone else might know, u might wanna try ask again =) sorrie09:20
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smoothiesZeroSystem was the guide pretty follow'able?09:20
geniimm260865 Good. where did you cp /etc/apt/sources.list   /to ?09:20
ZeroSystemya09:20
mm260865<genii> /etc/apt/sources.list_backup09:21
ZeroSystemanother thing when i installed kubunta the window applecation thing doesnt work09:21
smoothiesi didn't see you card in the list provided on that wiki, but i think u can get it to work pretty well09:21
ZeroSystemi dont know about i am just wondering09:21
smoothiescuz when i installed mine, the list had other people reporting my card wouldn't work, but i had it working at the end so it was cool09:21
matthew_genii, so        vncserver:1   ?09:21
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geniimm260865 Good. So now:  sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list_backup /etc/apt/sources.list09:21
smoothieswhat's the window application thing09:22
mm260865<genii> thanks!09:22
geniimatthew The exact syntax I ferget atm :( But *extensive* man page for vncserver09:22
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ZeroSystemi think its the one that lets you open window application i dont remeber exactly09:22
ZeroSystemit appeared when the driver disk was in09:23
geniimm260865 :)09:23
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geniimatthew_ BTW I solved the reboot into kdm has wrong default resolution issue :) Goes like a charm now09:24
jason__genil   whats the line i need to put into konsole to install the plugin for java for firefox...i have java installed  but not the firefox plugin09:24
smoothiesZeroSystem i'm a little confused about what u meant, could u say a little more09:25
ZeroSystemhmm i dont know how to put it let me see09:26
ZeroSystema sec09:26
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geniijason__ sudo apt-get install jre1.4-mozilla-plugin09:26
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jason__ty09:26
matthew_genii, beautiful!09:26
geniijason__ Np09:26
matthew_I'll take a look at the man pages tonight09:27
jellybearhi there09:27
jason__hmmmm what depo do i have to have enabled???09:27
geniimatthew_ I remember the big headache I had with vncserver was the default screen in the end09:27
jerpmultiverse probably09:28
geniiI would think so09:28
jellybearhave a strange rights problem: cannot execute any programs for user dhcp even though the access rights on all files involved seem to be set properly. any ideas?09:28
MrBallZ!upgrade to edgy09:28
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about upgrade to edgy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:28
genii!jre1.4-mozilla-plugin09:28
jellybeari'm using edgy09:28
geniisorry ubotu :)09:29
jellybearwell... sort of09:29
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geniiperhaps jre in restricted? I dunno if Sun stuff is quite open-sourced09:30
genii(otherr than OOo)09:30
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MrBallZanyone knows the correct steps to upgrade to Edgy from Dapper, using the cd09:31
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ScarFreewillmy gtalk just stoped working :\09:32
jerpMrBallz  check out- http://www.kubuntu.org/09:32
ScarFreewillthat happend to any1 else?09:33
jerpclick on the banner  "Taking you to the edge"09:33
geniiShort upgrade answer: change in sources.list dapper to edgy and eliminate the cd header part so just CDROM://    etc then comment out out all internet repos. Then run sudo apt-get upgrade09:33
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geniiwell, update    then upgrade09:34
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MrBallZgenii: do you think I'll have issues with this ... Ihave the normal edgy cd , not the alternate09:37
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geniiMrBallZ I did this by accident with the stock dist CDs. So i know it works. But you may want to do another way, like just do a clean install etc09:38
MrBallZi'll try that ... can you give me the line of your sources.list  for the cdrom ...09:38
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geniiMrBallZ I am not at that machine now. But give me a minute09:39
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geniiJust deb cdrom:/edgy main restricted      <-- thats all09:40
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geniiperhaps :// with 2 slash09:41
tobreHi!09:41
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lerneaen_hydradoes anybody even use the live-cd to install from?09:42
lerneaen_hydrait seems to be quite unstable and a lot slower09:42
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tobreI have a very strange situation. When I suspend my laptop it just locked..09:42
geniiI am getting to prefer this netboot method09:42
tobrelocks up09:43
geniiOK, I need air and coffee :) Back ~509:43
matthew_09:43
matthew_                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         lerneaen_hydra, I used it to ins09:43
matthew_tall from09:43
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geniiwhoah!09:44
geniitrippy09:44
matthew_genii, did a bunch of weird stuff just happen in your irc client window?09:45
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MrVincent__Hey guys, how do I download firefox with adept? It's greyed out09:49
intelikeygreyed out ?09:49
intelikeyit's in main.09:50
intelikey!firefox09:50
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins09:50
intelikey!info firefox09:50
ubotufirefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0+0dfsg-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 28588 kB09:50
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hateok got a vid card question if anyone has a second to help09:54
mm260865<genii> finally I did...I changed .gr with .gb and now installs kde...09:54
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intelikeyi wonder why i'm getting such veried results   "-:- CTCP PING reply from intelikey: 60.320 seconds"   "-:- CTCP PING reply from intelikey: 0.788 seconds"  lag from 0 to 47 to 0 again in one minute???09:55
ralph_genii: Hi Thanks for you wireless link yesterday. I tried to make it work but in the end I gave up. I did a install of edgy. Now the system recognises the wireless card but I cannot bring up the interface. It just stays disabled.09:55
matthew_intelikey, I was looking through my /home and I found my chat.txt file of the chat we had with dave_, lol09:55
intelikey:)09:55
matthew_lol, I was laughing so hard as I read it...gonna keep it around for awhile.09:56
hateanyone know why i migth be getting a screen flicker every oh 10-20 seconds??09:56
mm260865<genii> will I end up with KDE 4 or what?09:56
intelikey-:- CTCP PING reply from intelikey: 11.648 seconds09:56
matthew_intelikey> -:- CTCP PING reply from intelikey: 11.648 seconds   <--------- huh?09:57
intelikey-:- CTCP PING reply from intelikey: 0.902 seconds09:57
matthew_what is that for?09:58
intelikeyyes i'm getting all kinds of wierd times on that.09:58
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intelikeymatthew_ do /ping matthew_09:58
jerpwhat have you done since the last dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server ?09:58
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intelikeyit should give a round trip time for two send/recieves09:58
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matthew_intelikey, but what's the point?09:59
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ralph_Can anyone help me get my wireless interface enabled?09:59
intelikeymatthew_ ?09:59
genii!ping09:59
ubotu64 bytes from ubotu (10.13.37.1): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=1.33 ms09:59
matthew_to do a ping of yourself? just to see how much lag there is?09:59
geniihmm09:59
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intelikeyralph_ i can't but i can point you at the docs.09:59
intelikey!wifi | ralph_09:59
uboturalph_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs09:59
intelikeymatthew_ yes.10:00
matthew_intelikey, oh, ok.10:00
geniidid avalon ever get his tablet drivers compiled and working?10:00
intelikeymatthew_ cause my lag meter was going krazy.10:00
matthew_lol10:00
intelikeynow at 21 seconds.10:02
intelikey-:- CTCP PING reply from intelikey: 40.713 seconds10:02
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intelikeymakes no sense to me.10:02
intelikey!botsnack10:02
ubotuYum!10:02
mm260865<genii> I ended up with KDE 3.5 is this correct?10:02
intelikeyand i see the reply from ubotu within one secnod....10:03
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geniimm260865 I would think so, yes10:04
genii!kde10:04
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE10:04
geniibah no ver info :)10:04
intelikey!info kde10:05
ubotukde: the K Desktop Environment official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:47 (edgy), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB10:05
intelikey!info kdecore10:05
ubotuPackage kdecore does not exist in any distro I know10:05
geniiintelikey Smartie pants ;)10:05
intelikey!info kde-core10:05
ubotukde-core: the K Desktop Environment core modules. In component main, is optional. Version 5:47 (edgy), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB10:05
geniiver 5:47 ???? That *can't* be correct10:05
mm260865Kubuntu comes with KDE 4. Why I ended up with KDE 3.5?10:05
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intelikeyyes it is.   that's package version.  not app version10:06
geniiAh ah yeah10:06
mm260865<genii>Kubuntu comes with KDE 4. Why I ended up with KDE 3.5?10:06
geniimm260865 I'm sure you have the latest whatever it is10:06
geniilikely 4.2 or so10:06
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mm260865can I change the default interface language from british to greek?10:07
intelikeymm260865 kubuntu comes with kde 3.2   3.4   4.0   what version of "kubuntu"  do you have ?10:07
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geniihe has edgy10:07
mm260865I've got ubuntu edgy and I installed KDE desktop for variety!10:08
geniiI think you want System -> Language Support10:08
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intelikey<mm260865> can I change the default interface language <<< locales10:09
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geniiI see there on my Dapper box "Greek, Modern" as a possible language to install10:09
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mm260865OK...<genni> but the version it's still 3.5 not 4.0 can I upgrade?10:09
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intelikey!kde410:10
ubotuFor information on KDE 4 (not to be released for quite some time yet), see: http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/kde4.html. Also worth checking are: appeal/phonon/plasma/solid.kde.org10:10
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geniimm260865 Yes, certainly. For whichever latest there may be, the=is should work:   apt-get upgrade kde10:11
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mm260865thanks <genii> I will try it right now!10:12
geniipossibly bleeding edge distro may be kde-devel10:12
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miron_how do i enable hibernate options in kubuntu?10:14
unix_infidelshould already be enable.10:14
unix_infidelcheck your dmesg for acpi states available.10:15
miron_it should?10:15
unix_infidelyou just have to enter the acpi state.10:15
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miron_i'm kind of new to linux, so what?10:15
unix_infidelwhich laptop?10:15
miron_dell inspiron 600010:15
miron_hibernate works on xubuntu10:15
[Relic] Anyway to get flash to work with firefox (properly)?10:15
unix_infidelit should either be in your log-off shutdown menu, or it should be delivered as part of a keybind.10:15
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unix_infidel!flash10:16
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:16
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miron_still kind of confused10:16
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[Relic] it works properly in mozilla but not firefox10:16
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slougimiron_: K-Menu -> logout10:22
slougiyou should see there hibernate and suspend options10:22
miron_end current session, reboot, shut down10:22
miron_that's all10:22
ralph_intelikey: Thanks for the pointer to the docs. I have looked through the troubleshooting guide, I could not see what is the problem. The card is seen, iwconfig show the card but It does not have the essid or encryption key I set. Also when I try bring up the interface  just does not enable. Any ideas?10:22
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slougimiron_: interesting, are you using edgy?10:22
miron_i think so10:23
miron_if that's the current one10:23
slougiyeah, 6.1010:23
miron_yeah10:23
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slougihmm, it Just Worked (tm) on my thinkpad, so I don't really know10:24
slougiin general suspend/hibernate on linux is currently a bit icky10:24
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slougithere are several mutually incompatible implementations10:25
miron_well, this is mildly annoying10:25
slougiyes, I know10:25
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miron_but it works on xfce and gnome10:25
slougiwell, it's just a config issue then10:25
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intelikeyralph_ no sorry,  i'm kinda network illiterate, and content to stay that way.10:25
slougibut I have no idea really how to fix it, sorry10:25
miron_if i could enter a command or something, that would work too10:25
miron_is there a specific command for hibernate?10:25
slougihmm, hold on for a sec10:26
miron_and sleep, i use that too10:26
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geniimiron_ Do you have a swap partition that is at least 1 1/2 times the total size of your physiacal Ram?10:26
miron_i have a 2 gig swap partition, and 512 of ram10:27
faLUCEhi. do you know anything about X11/extensions/scrnsaver.h: No such file or directory ?10:27
slougimiron_: just to find out whether you use acpi or apm, if you enter "dmesg | grep -i apm" at a console, do you see a line "apm: overriden by ACPI"?10:27
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intelikeymiron_ i don't use hibernate but yes. it can be called from the cli.    i don't know the command though.10:27
ralph_intelikey: Me too, no nothing about wifi and networking. This is frustrating and getting me black eyes from cousin, who now has a low opinion of Linux.10:27
geniiHmm OK... I have heard some probs relating to no swap or small swap which causes hibernate isssues but this seems not that10:27
miron_uhh, bios not found10:28
miron_[17179757.820000]  apm: BIOS not found.10:28
slougifaLUCE: install x11proto-scrnsaver-dev10:28
intelikeyralph_ ask in ##linux  maybe.10:28
faLUCEslougi: let's try10:28
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slougimiron_: hmm. does it say anything about ACPI?10:28
miron_nope10:28
intelikeymiron_ has acpi ?10:28
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geniiSo perhaps it is either turned off in bios or you have the 2nd type of power regulating10:29
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miron_but see, it isn't turned off in the bios, it works on windows, xfce, and gnome10:29
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slougimiron_: if you have any unsaved docs open, save them, and see if "sudo apm -s" suspends.10:29
[Relic] nothing helpful there, guess I should probably just sack firefox and go back to mozilla since it is stable10:30
miron_ok10:30
slougiIf it makes your house explode don't blame me though :)10:30
faLUCEslougi: thnks, it works10:30
miron_not my house, oh well10:30
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miron_no apm support in kernel10:30
slougifaLUCE: no problem. usually missing X11 headers need x11proto-<something>10:30
slougimiron_: right10:30
ralph_intelikey: Too me it is looking like a problem with edgy. I put in the correct info and then hit the eneable button and it brings up the enableing dialog box for about 2 seconds and then that goes away and the interface remains disabled.10:31
slougimiron_: for some reason the kernel isn't picking up any power saving stuff, or that's how I interpret the situation10:31
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slougimiron_: don't really have any suggestions... as I said, I never really looked into power saving stuff10:31
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miron_it isn't picking up any power saving stuff in the kernel, but it is on xfce and gnome?10:33
miron_kde is weird10:33
slougiare xfce/gnome on the same install?10:33
miron_yes10:33
slougibecause kde *definitely* doesn't affect the kernel like that10:33
miron_definetly doesn't or definitely shouldn't?10:34
slougidefinitely cannot10:34
miron_i think i may switch back to gnome now10:34
slougiheh10:34
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slougiin any case, it is some sort of configuration issue. what exactly is broken I cannot tell.10:35
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miron_wtf was that10:36
miron_oh well10:37
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miron_so, what did you just say?10:37
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miron_slougi was it?10:39
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slougimiron_: sorry?10:41
slougiah10:41
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slougi[23:35]  <slougi> in any case, it is some sort of configuration issue. what exactly is broken I cannot tell.10:41
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slougiso, nothing important10:41
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boggystudiosdoes anyone in here use cedega10:45
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brandon_I installed it, but it didn't work for me, kept bugging out.10:49
brandon_do you use it?10:49
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boggystudiosyeah10:50
boggystudiosi am having trouble getting the sound to work in Civilization 410:51
boggystudiosafter I installed the 1.61 patch10:51
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brandon_oh there is a way you can force OSS sound in some file that fixes it i believe10:51
brandon_1.61 patch?10:51
brandon_for cedega?10:51
boggystudiosI know this isn't the place to ask but no one in the cedega channel is answering10:51
brandon_are you on 64bit?10:51
boggystudios1.61 for civ 410:52
brandon_oh10:52
boggystudiosit worked on the 1.010:52
brandon_are you on 64bit?10:52
boggystudiosnope just 32 bit10:52
geniiHmmm "eject /cdrom" exists ... is there an "insert /cdrom" or equiv?10:52
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brandon_yeah, cedega freezes for me, and wine I can't compile or install.  i'm on x86_64, and don't want to switch back to 32bit10:52
slougigenii: you mean to close the tray?10:53
boggystudiosI think that there is a 64 bit cedega10:53
geniislougi Yes by software10:53
brandon_I know, but it freezes for some reason10:53
brandon_closes out10:53
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slougigenii: I believe eject -t closes the tray. eject -T closes if open, opens if closed. iirc not all devices support it though. have a look at the man page.10:54
geniiAt the end of an automated installation, I want some indication the machine is done. So I figure eject insert cycle for 3-4 loops would do it10:54
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geniiinteresting lemme try :)10:54
ssHi folks10:55
ssa little problem with me10:55
excitatorylo10:55
sscan someone listn???10:55
slougiss: just ask and see if you get an answer10:55
geniiYes lowercase t works perfect thx slougi10:56
slougigenii: e.g. think of laptop drives of the "pop-out" kind, they don't support close command, nor do slot drives. so you really also should have another indicator :)10:56
slougigenii: np10:56
ssthnx10:57
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ssI can not run Google Earth. I installed it from official bin file but it crashes every time..same was when i installed it from Automatix10:57
slougiwhat does it say?10:58
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excitatoryss: do you have 3d drivers installed.. i.e., official nvidia or ati drivers?10:58
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excitatoryif not, that's probably your reason10:58
TheDebuggerAutomatix is a pile of ( four letter word )10:59
ss3d drivers10:59
ssooooooooo10:59
ssi have to install 3d drivers...10:59
ssstrange10:59
matthew_TheDebugger, I love it.10:59
matthew_TheDebugger, it's a pile of food?10:59
ssit works simply with my windows system10:59
ssdual boot xp and kubuntu10:59
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excitatoryss: well, by default, *ubuntu installs open-source drivers.. but because graphics hardware is closed, some of the more advanced 3d effects cannot be replicated in the oss drivers, and thus if you need 3d, you'll have to install the official closed drivers from your card manufacturer11:00
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slougiexcept in the case of Ati I wouldn't bother..11:01
ssopssssssss11:01
ssit is working now i think it was internet problem11:01
ssi ran it to tell you error message but it is ok thnx folks for answering11:02
ssi love kubuntu11:02
excitatoryit is nice.11:02
excitatoryss: well, for future reference and more info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:02
boggystudiosyes....it is11:02
slougicertainly is :)11:02
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moniquehi all, I'm planning to use wpa encryption with my wifi card, I'm following the doc that tells to modifiy /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf, but that file isn't there, has this file moved elsewhere ?11:08
monique(under edgy, following instructions at WPAHowTo)11:09
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fdovingmonique: check out /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf11:12
fdovingif you don't have that either, there is a template at /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/examples/wpa_supplicant.conf.template11:12
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moniquefdoving: thanks, apparently ,that file is entirely composed of comments, so I guess it's ok to start a new file from scratch then11:14
fdovingmonique: it is.11:15
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moniqueah wait, there aren't only comments in fact11:15
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moniqueok, it should be fine, thanks for the pointer11:17
fdovingyou're welcome :)11:17
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[oister] good morning11:18
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n8k99question about kopete - is there a way to have it sign into an irc channel upon start up?11:21
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brandon_how do i reset panels?11:25
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jerpwith this: killall kicker | kicker11:26
apokryphosbrandon_: dcop kicker default restart11:28
brandon_thanks, does anyone know how to disable taskbar flashing?11:28
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apokryphosbrandon_: yes, from the system settings in the menu11:29
brandon_window behavior?11:29
brandon_which option?11:29
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Dagfarianyone know a reason why when I choose to partition my disk manually my installer hangs?11:33
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Dagfarirunning 6.06.1 on an amd 550 with 384MB RAM hda is 1.3gb and hdb is 2.6...previous install of ubuntu 5.04 resident on the drives11:35
brandon_try formatting the drive first11:35
brandon_i had to do that on 2 installs to fresh install11:36
Dagfariis there an option from the live cd or do I have to use my 5.04 cd and exit the install after the format?11:36
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brandon_if there is, I do not know how to get to it11:37
brandon_i think it's command line like install -format11:37
brandon_something like that11:37
brandon_i don't know for sure11:37
brandon_but i had to use my windows cd11:37
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brandon_if you find out, let me know, please!11:38
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nibiHi everyone11:38
nibii have a very simple question11:38
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Stalk3rok, I'll do that11:39
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nibiCan anyone tell me how to install compiz?11:39
nibii am using kubuntu 6.10 edgy11:39
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nibiall the how-tos keep talking about gnome and such11:39
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nibibut i am using kde kubuntu11:39
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jerp!compiz | nibi11:40
ubotunibi: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems11:40
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matthew_genii, man, I had a guy come into the store looking for disks to "record digital audio". I told him we had CD-RW's and CD-R's, with CD-R's being the better choice for stand-alone audio players...so, he asks to talk to my boss. My boss isn't here and doesn't have his cell...so he calls someone and tells them that "the guy who works here doesn't know anything". Then he leaves...bleagh, what a downer.11:41
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nibithe tinyurl link for kubuntu doesn't work ubotu11:41
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Shaezschein general, is battery life for laptops better with kde or gnome?11:44
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brandon_i would say it's the same11:44
brandon_but i do not know for sure11:45
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Stalk3rbrandon_: Use QTParted11:47
brandon_what is that?11:48
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Stalk3rgraphical partitioner on the live cd11:48
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brandon_how do you get to it?11:48
nibisean has pimped his nick11:48
Stalk3rKMenu|System|QTParted11:48
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brandon_yeah but people don't want to have to burn a live cd to format their drive to install another cd11:49
brandon_just put it on the main cd11:49
jerpnibi, do you know how to use Google?  there are howtos all over it for compiz kubuntu11:49
Stalk3rI found hda is the reason it hung in the first place so I'll be pulling that drive off the system11:49
brandon_have everything else download when it's installed11:49
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Se4nwhich packages i need to use "make" in kubuntu?11:50
nibiyea thats the problem, there's so many of them that i get lost11:50
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Schuenemannhow can get the volume of my headphones higher?11:50
Stalk3rwell, I burned the install cd I downloaded and it was the live cd but the installer runs from the live cd desktop11:50
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jerptry that #ubuntu-xgl channel11:51
Schuenemann?11:51
eilkerz11:51
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knivageHey, has anyone here ever bought from Linux System Labs (www.lsl.com.au) in Australia?11:52
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Schuenemann!au11:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about au - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:52
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Schuenemannhow can get the volume of my headphones higher?11:53
Schuenemannkmix is already at its maximum11:53
Stalk3rterm11:53
knivageWell, I'd better go, cya everyone!11:54
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Stalk3roops, I typed on the wrong keyboard11:55
Stalk3rrofl11:55
rbayoalguien en espaol11:55
Schuenemann!es | rbayo11:56
uboturbayo: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.11:56
rbayook11:56
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arschkindSysinfo for 'kubuntu': Linux 2.6.15-23-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: AMDAthlon64X2DualCore4200+ at 2211 MHz (4425 bogomips), , RAM: 982/1010MB, 98 proc's, 37.32min up11:57
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matthew_Schuenemann, if you're using a media player you may be able to boost the volume up from within the media player...11:58
Schuenemannit's amarok, at the max11:58
Schuenemannand so is kmix and the headphone itself11:58
bulwynkl!lvm11:59
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO11:59
Schuenemannmatthew_: but on windows, for example, I can get it a lot higher11:59
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michael20laif i leave my system idle for 1 min, i loose display (blank screen) but returns when i move the mouse. ideaS?12:01
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Schuenemannscreensaver?12:01
Schuenemannpower saver12:01
michael20laoff12:01
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Stalk3rit's the powersaver12:02
Stalk3rare you on a laptop?12:02
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michael20lausually, a white X appears12:03
Stalk3rsounds like a screensaver, then12:04
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slougiI sometimes get the white X too, not quite sure what it is. usually when returning from sleep. It's the X11 logo, so it has something to do with X.12:05
Stalk3rit's x resuming from suspended mode12:05
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slougiright, was suspecting that12:05
slougiit didn't used to do this12:05
Stalk3rso, michael20la, are you on a laptop?12:06
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brandon_can you set the size of tray icons?12:06
slougibrandon_: no12:06
slougithe tray icons are actually X11 windows provided separately by each app, so it is up to the applications12:07
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Schuenemannso nobody has an idea about the headphones' volume? :(12:07
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arschkindSysinfo for 'kubuntu': Linux 2.6.15-23-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: AMDAthlon64X2DualCore4200+ at 2211 MHz (4425 bogomips), , RAM: 257/1010MB, 98 proc's, 2.11min up12:09
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vadoBonsoir12:11
andreaswAnybody knows how I can get symbols on the desktop for every usb disc I plug in?12:12
andreaswEven if they are not mounted12:12
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