bddebian | Later gang | 12:18 |
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kgoetz | if i build a package with dpkg-buildpackage, change something then rebuild, will it pick up the changes? or do i have to remove the directory, make the changes again, then build again? | 12:20 |
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shawarma | kgoetz: That depends on what you mean by "rebuild". | 12:21 |
kgoetz | shawarma: re run dpkg-buildpackage | 12:21 |
shawarma | kgoetz: it will run the clean target of you debian/rules and build again. | 12:23 |
shawarma | kgoetz: So if the clean target does what it's supposed to, you should be fine. | 12:23 |
kgoetz | shawarma: i'm modifying an existing package, so i'll hope its setup right. thanks :) | 12:23 |
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Storkme | is this the right place to ask about developing gnome panel applets? | 12:46 |
crimsun | no. | 12:46 |
Storkme | where is? | 12:46 |
crimsun | irc.gnome.org | 12:46 |
crimsun | or ircd, I don't remember which. | 12:46 |
Storkme | ok,thanks | 12:46 |
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imbrandon | ello all | 02:11 |
zul | hey imbrandon | 02:14 |
kgoetz | should i look on h.u.c or w.u.c for info on diff? (the bit in the packageing guide) | 02:15 |
crimsun | are you generating or applying a diff? | 02:16 |
kgoetz | generating | 02:16 |
crimsun | then it's best to read diff(1) | 02:16 |
kgoetz | cool. thanks | 02:17 |
crimsun | np | 02:17 |
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imbrandon | hrm | 03:08 |
imbrandon | is ajmitch arround ? | 03:08 |
crimsun | idle : 0 days 3 hours 48 mins 10 secs | 03:09 |
imbrandon | drat | 03:09 |
imbrandon | crimsun, you know anything about setting up a i386 pbuilder on amd64 | 03:09 |
imbrandon | err x86_64 | 03:09 |
imbrandon | i dont see any arch values | 03:09 |
imbrandon | in pbuilderrc | 03:09 |
crimsun | I changed the script directly when I did it | 03:10 |
crimsun | not recommended, not the best way, etc. | 03:10 |
imbrandon | i finaly got the new dualcore buildd made and installed etc | 03:10 |
imbrandon | what script ? | 03:10 |
crimsun | pbuilder | 03:10 |
imbrandon | ahh | 03:11 |
imbrandon | hrm | 03:11 |
shawarma | imbrandon: There's a howto on the wiki. | 03:11 |
imbrandon | shawarma, i seen the ones for chroots but not pbuilder | 03:11 |
imbrandon | i know its similar but not the same | 03:11 |
shawarma | imbrandon: I'm quite sure it's there. Anyhow, it's a matter for passing "--debootstrapopts --arch --debootstrapopts i386" or something like that. | 03:12 |
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shawarma | imbrandon: That's pretty much it. Maybe prepend the entire thing with "linux32" (install that package first). | 03:12 |
imbrandon | cool, thanks for the tips | 03:13 |
imbrandon | i'll look a little more | 03:13 |
imbrandon | so realy after creat it will rember ? | 03:13 |
shawarma | imbrandon: Yes. | 03:13 |
imbrandon | rockon , ok that works then | 03:14 |
shawarma | imbrandon: The architecture is compiled into dpkg, so on subsequent runs it will consider itself an i386 environment. | 03:14 |
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shawarma | imbrandon: ..and passing those debootstrapopts will make it install the correct dpkg. And yes, I *do* mean "--debootstrapopts --arch --debootstrapopts i386". | 03:15 |
imbrandon | right i actualy ready that somewhere else | 03:15 |
shawarma | imbrandon: It will become painfully obivous why if you try be clever about it. :-) | 03:15 |
imbrandon | so it wasent totaly foreign | 03:15 |
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crimsun | it's thanks to pbuilder being a bit ... wily about tokenizing via whitespace | 03:16 |
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imbrandon | pbuilder-feisty-i386 create --debootstrapopts --arch --debootstrapopts i386 | 03:17 |
imbrandon | err | 03:17 |
shawarma | crimsun: hm? Unless "wily" means reluctant I don't see what you mean. | 03:17 |
shawarma | imbrandon: Move "create" to the end. | 03:17 |
shawarma | imbrandon: For pbuilder order of the arguments matter. | 03:18 |
crimsun | shawarma: it's sarcasm, so, yes. | 03:18 |
imbrandon | shawarma, actualy i thoink you have it backwords | 03:18 |
imbrandon | the action has to be first | 03:19 |
imbrandon | like pbuilder login --save-after-login | 03:19 |
imbrandon | :) | 03:19 |
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shawarma | crimsun: Oh... It's too late/early here for sarcasm in foreign languages. | 03:19 |
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shawarma | imbrandon: Ah.. Yes, you're right. | 03:19 |
shawarma | imbrandon: What is pbuilder-feisty-i386 ? | 03:19 |
imbrandon | a pbuilder-distrobution.sh variant | 03:19 |
shawarma | imbrandon: Oh, ok. I don't use those. I've rolled my own. :-) | 03:20 |
shawarma | Nevertheless, I'm off to bed. It's hella late here. | 03:20 |
shawarma | G'night, guys! | 03:20 |
imbrandon | i've actualy done all this before with multi pbuilders set up for the users, i'm just trying to mix amd64 and i386 into the mix too this time | 03:20 |
imbrandon | gnight | 03:21 |
imbrandon | thanks | 03:21 |
shawarma | any time. | 03:21 |
crimsun | 'night | 03:21 |
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imbrandon | hrm | 03:29 |
imbrandon | where is hobbsee when you need her | 03:30 |
imbrandon | heh | 03:30 |
imbrandon | crimsun, got a sec ( or the access ) to tar up a stock /var/cache/pbuilder directory ? | 03:32 |
crimsun | I don't, sorry, but you can pull it from the vmware machine, probably? | 03:32 |
imbrandon | ahhh true , i forgot about that | 03:33 |
imbrandon | thanks | 03:33 |
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bddebian | Heya gang | 03:38 |
kgoetz | hey :) | 03:39 |
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imbrandon | heya bddebian and kgoetz | 03:39 |
bddebian | Heya kgoetz, imbrandon | 03:39 |
kgoetz | hi imbrandon | 03:39 |
imbrandon | crimsun, is there a known issue with flashplugin on edgy ? | 03:45 |
imbrandon | i have the package installed but dosent show up in ff | 03:45 |
crimsun | there are many, many issues. | 03:45 |
imbrandon | what dir is the actual so supose to be in, maybe the link dident make it | 03:45 |
imbrandon | err it dident make the link | 03:45 |
crimsun | are you using edgy's or edgy-backports's? | 03:45 |
imbrandon | plain edgy, i dont care for backports as a whole | 03:46 |
imbrandon | i can cherry pick that one package if its worth it though | 03:46 |
crimsun | you probably need to update-flashplugin or whatever | 03:46 |
imbrandon | k | 03:46 |
crimsun | for -backports, you'd need to dpkg-reconfigure flashplugin-nonfree | 03:47 |
crimsun | mdke ran into the latter | 03:47 |
bddebian | Heya crimsun | 03:47 |
crimsun | hi bddebian | 03:47 |
imbrandon | kk | 03:47 |
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kgoetz | do i use dpkg-buildpackage to use dsc's to extract source packages? | 04:15 |
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bddebian | dpkg-source -x | 04:17 |
kgoetz | thanks bddebian | 04:18 |
bddebian | NP | 04:18 |
kgoetz | ty | 04:18 |
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imbrandon | apt-get build-dep firefox | 05:22 |
imbrandon | err | 05:22 |
kgoetz | :) | 05:23 |
kgoetz | you too? :) | 05:23 |
imbrandon | me too ? | 05:24 |
ajmitch | the rest of us still have some measure of sanity | 05:24 |
kgoetz | < imbrandon> apt-get build-dep firefox | 05:24 |
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imbrandon | if you mean building ff yea, i'm trying to apply the 2.0.0.1 update | 05:24 |
imbrandon | we'll see how successfull i am | 05:25 |
imbrandon | heh | 05:25 |
kgoetz | hheh | 05:25 |
imbrandon | heya ajmitch | 05:25 |
ajmitch | hello | 05:25 |
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imbrandon | hehe | 05:26 |
Burgundavia | ajmitch: maybe it is one of those days, I am exhausted as well | 05:26 |
ajmitch | maybe it's because I spent the last 5 hours walking up one of the local hills | 05:27 |
imbrandon | heya Burgundavia | 05:27 |
ajmitch | kgoetz probably remembers what the hills round dunedin are like | 05:29 |
bddebian | "The hills are alive..." | 05:29 |
kgoetz | ajmitch: yes, i walked a few :) | 05:29 |
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bddebian | heh | 05:30 |
jdong | imbrandon: speaking from experience applying patches to Ubuntu firefox is almost always doomed to failure :) | 05:30 |
jdong | you'd have better luck putting reiser4 into a grsec Xen kernel | 05:30 |
jdong | it does build from feisty cleanly though | 05:30 |
kgoetz | i'm only building FF and it takes a fwe hours. i dread to think about building openoffice | 05:32 |
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imbrandon | jdong, i know, i've built ff quite a few times ( in and out of ubutnu ) | 05:36 |
imbrandon | :) | 05:36 |
jdong | :) | 05:36 |
jdong | showoff :) | 05:36 |
imbrandon | i've probably built ff more than the packages i "look after" | 05:36 |
imbrandon | as far as {k}ubuntu | 05:36 |
kgoetz | lol | 05:36 |
imbrandon | its normaly one of those thing you tripple check you changes, set the build and goto bed | 05:37 |
imbrandon | :) | 05:37 |
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imbrandon | hrm what package is filterdiff part of ? dosent seem to be installed by default | 05:53 |
imbrandon | i hate reloading a build box | 05:53 |
imbrandon | i need to make a mata package with all the cruft i use in it | 05:53 |
kgoetz | need to save your package lists | 05:53 |
imbrandon | heh yea | 05:54 |
imbrandon | but i seldom reload, mostly only when i change major hardware | 05:54 |
imbrandon | atleaste the build boxes | 05:54 |
imbrandon | my lappy i reload once a week it seems lol | 05:54 |
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kgoetz | lol | 05:55 |
imbrandon | ahh patchutils | 05:55 |
imbrandon | there we go | 05:55 |
imbrandon | ugh crimsun still arround ? | 06:00 |
kgoetz | watching the PID column in top go up. 1 build of firefox sparks a gazillion processes. its obscene | 06:00 |
imbrandon | kgoetz, hehe something to give my 4 cores a workout :) | 06:01 |
kgoetz | :o | 06:01 |
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imbrandon | hum it seems "filterdiff -x '*CVS*' temp.diff > newtemp.diff" | 06:01 |
imbrandon | only sorta doies what i want | 06:01 |
imbrandon | does | 06:01 |
kgoetz | unfortunately, its not even thrashin this computer. *shrugs* as to why | 06:02 |
imbrandon | that filters all the CVS chunks out except the "diff -ruN *" lines for them | 06:02 |
imbrandon | :( | 06:02 |
imbrandon | i guess i need to read the man a bit more | 06:02 |
kgoetz | ruN... thats what i was after before. | 06:03 |
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imbrandon | hum | 06:04 |
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imbrandon | ugh | 06:16 |
joejaxx | what is wrong imbrandon ? :( | 06:18 |
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imbrandon | joejaxx, CVS cruft | 06:21 |
imbrandon | brandon@hood:~/devel/mozilla$ filterdiff -x '*/CVS/*' temp.diff |grep -v '^diff.*CVS' |wc -c | 06:22 |
imbrandon | 2264561 | 06:22 |
imbrandon | :) | 06:22 |
joejaxx | imbrandon: LOL | 06:22 |
imbrandon | anyhow got it fixed up now | 06:22 |
joejaxx | that is good | 06:22 |
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imbrandon | crimsun, flashplugin from backports works fine, thanks | 07:16 |
crimsun | np. | 07:16 |
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mohammad | siretart: Hello | 07:53 |
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crimsun | mohammad: it's quite early in the morning for him. | 07:54 |
imbrandon | night all | 07:55 |
crimsun | 'night | 07:56 |
mohammad | crimsun: Hello, I have uploaded to http://revu.tauware.de/index.py but I cannot login | 07:56 |
mohammad | crimsun: I am newbie to revu. Do you know what should I do to get my password? | 07:59 |
crimsun | mohammad: have you followed the directions in the topic? | 07:59 |
imbrandon | http://revu.tauware.de/lostpw.py?email=your@email.tld | 08:00 |
mohammad | crimsun: Yes. right now my package is listed there. | 08:00 |
crimsun | mohammad: have you tried recovering your passwd as imbrandon suggests? | 08:01 |
mohammad | crimsun: Yes. with mderakhs@math... I singed the package. But in changelog my email is derakhshani+zekr@gmail | 08:03 |
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mohammad | crimsun: Using mderakhs@math I get a message whose its decryption is "None" | 08:04 |
mohammad | crimsun: Using derakhshani+zekr@gmail I do not get any encrypted password at all | 08:05 |
mohammad | crimsun: Do you have any suggestion? | 08:05 |
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crimsun | mohammad: use the matching e-mail | 08:10 |
mohammad | crimsun: So you mean I should compile my package again? | 08:11 |
imbrandon | change the mail in the changelog and debuild -S -sa , then reupload , yes | 08:12 |
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mohammad | Ok, thank you | 08:12 |
crimsun | yay, my Hobbsee-summoning wand works | 08:12 |
imbrandon | hehe | 08:12 |
imbrandon | heya Hobbsee | 08:13 |
Hobbsee | crimsun: hehe! heya | 08:14 |
Hobbsee | woulda been on here earlier, except my POS internet connection.... | 08:14 |
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Hobbsee | hey imbrandon | 08:14 |
crimsun | heya :) | 08:14 |
Hobbsee | crimsun: what was i being summoned for? | 08:14 |
Hobbsee | ah :) | 08:14 |
crimsun | (I think imbrandon needed something) | 08:14 |
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imbrandon | yea i had your login ready for build.imbrandon.com | 08:15 |
imbrandon | got a sec Hobbsee ? | 08:15 |
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elkbuntu | try her now, imbrandon | 08:16 |
imbrandon | 01:15 < imbrandon> yea i had your login ready for build.imbrandon.com Lathiat | 08:16 |
imbrandon | 01:15 < imbrandon> got a sec Hobbsee ? | 08:17 |
imbrandon | gah | 08:17 |
imbrandon | sorry Lathiat | 08:17 |
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Hobbsee_ | argh. | 08:17 |
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Hobbsee_ | imbrandon: woot :) | 08:17 |
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Hobbsee | imbrandon: yeah, i have a sec, if my connection holds | 08:18 |
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Hobbsee | hehe | 08:18 |
Hobbsee | you got the imitation one that the redneck made, elky.... | 08:19 |
imbrandon | Hobbsee, ssh -p5022 hobbsee@build.imbrandon.com | 08:19 |
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crimsun | poor redneck^Wbrandon. | 08:19 |
imbrandon | hahaha | 08:19 |
Hobbsee | haha | 08:19 |
elkbuntu | rofl | 08:19 |
Hobbsee | ooh, passphrase for ssh keys now :) | 08:20 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: got it :) | 08:20 |
imbrandon | yea ssh keys == good | 08:20 |
Hobbsee | indeed | 08:20 |
imbrandon | ok i need to finish up the pbuilders | 08:21 |
imbrandon | but thats the login info | 08:21 |
imbrandon | its a x86_64 dual core 3ghz intel pentium d , 1 gig ram | 08:21 |
imbrandon | JUST for building | 08:21 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: nice :) | 08:21 |
imbrandon | 50GB space on /storage iirc | 08:22 |
imbrandon | so should be plenty | 08:22 |
Hobbsee | nice :) | 08:22 |
Hobbsee | yeah | 08:22 |
imbrandon | i'm in the middle of setting up pbuilders for dapper/edgy/feisty/sid both amd64 and i386 for all | 08:22 |
imbrandon | so should be able to build justa bout anything | 08:22 |
Hobbsee | :) | 08:23 |
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imbrandon | btw do you still have a tar with the base dirs we were using minus the base.tar.gz ? | 08:23 |
imbrandon | i looked everywhere , i dident seem to back it up so i'm having to make it all over | 08:23 |
imbrandon | i have all the pbuilder-* scripts | 08:24 |
imbrandon | just not the /var/cache/pbuilder/* struc | 08:24 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: i dont think so. | 08:25 |
imbrandon | hum ok | 08:25 |
Hobbsee | hang on, how does that work? | 08:25 |
imbrandon | does what work ? | 08:25 |
Hobbsee | a tar with base dirs, without the .tar.gz? | 08:25 |
Hobbsee | isnt the .tar.gz the tar with base dirs? | 08:25 |
imbrandon | err not the base.tar.gz its self | 08:26 |
imbrandon | the one with the apt.conf and aptcache and results and pbuilderrc | 08:26 |
imbrandon | e.g. /var/cache/pbuilder/feisty/* on my old build box | 08:26 |
imbrandon | but no base.tar.gz | 08:26 |
Hobbsee | ah right | 08:26 |
Hobbsee | oh, do i still have that.... | 08:27 |
imbrandon | we had a tarbal of that somewhere i thought on buntudot iirc, but maybe not | 08:27 |
Hobbsee | you kinda need the base.tar.gz for that anyway | 08:27 |
Hobbsee | yeah, i had my config files and all that on there originally | 08:27 |
imbrandon | yea but i can pbuilder create and make a new base | 08:27 |
Hobbsee | yeah | 08:27 |
imbrandon | the other stuff is the pita to config | 08:27 |
Hobbsee | nah, havent for a long tiem | 08:27 |
Hobbsee | indeed | 08:27 |
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imbrandon | hum ok, so its no longer ? | 08:28 |
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Hobbsee | nah, i dont think so | 08:29 |
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Hobbsee | s/s/d | 08:29 |
imbrandon | also i have my fast mirror publicly avail too now ( only for {edgy,feisty} and {x86,amd64,source} ) | 08:29 |
imbrandon | but with -backports -security etc etc etc | 08:30 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: i can copy it onto buntudot, or just pastebin my pbuilderrc | 08:30 |
Hobbsee | nice :) | 08:30 |
imbrandon | deb{,-src} http://mirror.imbrandon.com/ubuntu edgy{,-backports,-security,-updates} main restricted universe multiverse | 08:31 |
imbrandon | ^^ if anyone wants to use it | 08:31 |
Hobbsee | nice :) | 08:31 |
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ajmitch | imbrandon: how often is it updated? | 08:31 |
imbrandon | hourly | 08:31 |
imbrandon | its on a hourly cron for both edgy and feisty | 08:32 |
ajmitch | useful | 08:32 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: uploading | 08:32 |
imbrandon | i might add dapper to it sometime | 08:32 |
Hobbsee | bah, what's the point? | 08:32 |
imbrandon | and sid / etch maybe | 08:33 |
imbrandon | just because | 08:33 |
imbrandon | :) | 08:33 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: uploaded to /home/sarah on your build machine | 08:34 |
imbrandon | kk | 08:34 |
imbrandon | cool | 08:34 |
Hobbsee | :) | 08:34 |
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imbrandon | err /home/hobbsee ? | 08:34 |
Hobbsee | yeah | 08:35 |
imbrandon | :) | 08:35 |
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ajmitch | great, almost all packed | 10:38 |
Hobbsee | ajmitch: yay! | 10:38 |
ajmitch | then I can leave for 10 days! | 10:38 |
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ajmitch | and there was much rejoicing in #ubuntu-motu | 10:40 |
elkbuntu | ajmitch, no, that happens once you're gone | 10:46 |
ajmitch | I didn't think you'd be able to hold it back that long | 10:48 |
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elkbuntu | ajmitch, well... considering people here probably wont notice until you're gone... | 10:54 |
gnomefreak | i take it most of the devs are on holiday? | 10:56 |
elkbuntu | i believe so | 10:57 |
elkbuntu | some we may not see until the new year | 10:57 |
gnomefreak | i figured as much :( | 10:57 |
elkbuntu | i wasnt really around for this period last year.. i was still a total newb back then : | 10:58 |
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StevenK | elkbuntu: You may well get a mail from my wife and me tonight. | 10:59 |
kgoetz | elkbuntu: it went quiet, just like now | 10:59 |
elkbuntu | haha... the year has only wiped away the 'total' part, i know | 10:59 |
elkbuntu | StevenK, hmm? | 10:59 |
elkbuntu | kgoetz, tbh, i cant say im surprised | 11:00 |
StevenK | elkbuntu: Your blog, you dork. :-P | 11:00 |
elkbuntu | aaaah | 11:00 |
elkbuntu | schweet! | 11:00 |
elkbuntu | there was two in the inbox this morning, thanks to the post last night | 11:01 |
StevenK | Nice! | 11:01 |
StevenK | Who from? | 11:01 |
elkbuntu | StevenK, PM | 11:03 |
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StevenK | ajmitch: Then you can get them to join in! | 11:03 |
kgoetz | can i ask an on topic question? | 11:03 |
StevenK | kgoetz: No. | 11:03 |
kgoetz | :( | 11:03 |
elkbuntu | ajmitch, wake them up tomorrow morning : | 11:03 |
StevenK | On topic questions are off topic | 11:03 |
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elkbuntu | they keep meaning to rename the channel to #ubuntu-devel-offtopic | 11:04 |
elkbuntu | just nobody's got round to it : | 11:04 |
elkbuntu | what did you want to ask, kgoetz? | 11:05 |
kgoetz | how can i generate a .dsc from a changed source directory? | 11:05 |
ajmitch | debuild -S | 11:05 |
StevenK | Or dpkg-source -b | 11:06 |
ajmitch | maybe with -sa if you need to upload the orig.tar.gz | 11:06 |
kgoetz | in the dir with the /debian/ directory, or the one above? | 11:06 |
ajmitch | or mash the keyboard & see what happens | 11:06 |
StevenK | kgoetz: For ajmitch's answer, in the one above, and for mine, the one above that. | 11:06 |
kgoetz | ajmitch: 's thing builds doesnt it? | 11:08 |
kgoetz | or do i have to build to get the new dsc? | 11:08 |
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ajmitch | we can tell you to RTFM? excellent :) | 11:10 |
ajmitch | -S doesn't build a binary package | 11:10 |
ajmitch | it just runs the clean target, puts together a source package | 11:10 |
kgoetz | i ask asuming i need to build a dsc to debdiff | 11:10 |
ajmitch | yep | 11:11 |
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ajmitch | you'll be tested on it later | 11:15 |
kgoetz | lucky your going away... it'll give me a chance to write down the answers :) | 11:16 |
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ajmitch | laserjock will welcome contributors to the guide :) | 11:17 |
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kgoetz | does the debuild -S overwrite the dsc thats already in teh directory? | 11:19 |
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StevenK | kgoetz: https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/288796 | 11:33 |
kgoetz | :o | 11:35 |
kgoetz | only 5 hours? | 11:35 |
StevenK | Heh | 11:35 |
StevenK | The powerpc build is 7 and a half hours | 11:35 |
tsmithe | urgh that's longer than when i had gentoo | 11:35 |
kgoetz | 5 hours for one arch? :S | 11:36 |
StevenK | Ooooh. | 11:36 |
tsmithe | yeah - that can't be right | 11:36 |
StevenK | The sparc build is 11 hours | 11:36 |
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ajmitch | night all | 11:36 |
ajmitch | might see you tomorrow, if not, have a good week :) | 11:37 |
StevenK | ajmitch: Night! Enjoy your holiday away from us psychos. | 11:37 |
kgoetz | later :) | 11:37 |
elkbuntu | cya ajmitch | 11:38 |
kgoetz | how sane an option is croscompiling? | 11:38 |
StevenK | Not very. | 11:38 |
kgoetz | oh well. | 11:39 |
StevenK | Doing it may well show up a myriad of compiler bugs that *will* send you insane debugging. | 11:39 |
kgoetz | i dont think i'm going to do that then... i have enough trouble getting stuff building | 11:39 |
kgoetz | and i'm not really making changes | 11:39 |
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StevenK | He may well see the U-word and go for the throat. | 11:46 |
kgoetz | true... | 11:46 |
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kgoetz | if you run pbuilder update will it update all your base.gz's or just one? | 11:58 |
StevenK | pbuilder update will only update base.tgz | 11:58 |
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kgoetz | so only the default | 11:59 |
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kgoetz | are all changes are done diff.gz? debian and ubuntu? | 12:10 |
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Fujitsu | They can't be done anywhere else, so yes. | 12:16 |
kgoetz | ty | 12:17 |
Fujitsu | np | 12:18 |
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tsmithe | hmm ... so how do i package a library? | 12:49 |
Hobbsee | tsmithe: seen the debian library packaging guide? | 12:50 |
tsmithe | nope | 12:50 |
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Hobbsee | :) | 12:50 |
tsmithe | danke | 12:51 |
Hobbsee | :0 | 12:51 |
Hobbsee | * :) | 12:51 |
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kgoetz | can i turn the .diff.gz into a bunch of different diffs, or does it have to be monolithic? | 02:00 |
fdoving | has to be one. | 02:03 |
kgoetz | aw. | 02:03 |
fdoving | however the contents of the .diff might be other diffs. | 02:03 |
kgoetz | would i be able to just cut out difs from the main one? | 02:04 |
fdoving | well, that's doable. | 02:05 |
kgoetz | heh. yes. 'just' cut out ;) | 02:05 |
fdoving | in a perferct world the .diff.gz will be the complete debian/ dir. | 02:06 |
fdoving | it should be possible to 'fake' you've got the upstream source, and just extract the files from the diff,somehow. | 02:07 |
fdoving | I haven't tried that though. | 02:07 |
geser | if the diff.gz contains only files in debian/ the right value for -p should do the trick | 02:09 |
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fdoving | yeah, patch -p1 will do that for you. | 02:12 |
fdoving | you can also skip the pices for files which is not inside debian/ | 02:13 |
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tsmithe | hi i have two packages on revu which are for ubuntustudio, and _MMA_ (you there) would like revu'ing as soon as possible. is there anyone free to do this? | 04:53 |
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tsmithe | alsa-tools needs revu'age, please: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3892 | 04:54 |
tsmithe | alsa-firmware, the other, is just being fixed | 04:55 |
tsmithe | where's bddebian when you need him | 04:57 |
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bddebian | Heya gang | 05:26 |
fernando | bddebian: hey | 05:28 |
bddebian | Heya fernando | 05:28 |
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Lutin___ | heya Toadstool | 05:35 |
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Toadstool | hey LUtin_ | 05:39 |
Toadstool | hi everybody | 05:39 |
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bddebian | Heya Toadstool | 05:40 |
Toadstool | hey bddebian | 05:42 |
Toadstool | how is it going? | 05:42 |
bddebian | Fair to midland, thanks. You? | 05:42 |
Toadstool | great! | 05:42 |
Toadstool | well, I'd be better if i weren't at work :p | 05:43 |
bddebian | Heh, I hear that | 05:43 |
gpocentek | hello Toadstool, hello bddebian | 05:48 |
Toadstool | hey gpocentek ! | 05:49 |
Toadstool | long time no see :) | 05:49 |
Toadstool | how are you? | 05:49 |
bddebian | Heya gpocentek | 05:49 |
gpocentek | Toadstool: fine :) | 05:49 |
gpocentek | Toadstool: you seem to have become a very busy man ;) | 05:51 |
Toadstool | yeah :/ | 05:51 |
Toadstool | too much work during the day and so many things to do after :) | 05:52 |
gpocentek | hehe | 05:52 |
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tsmithe | ah bddebian; i need to ask you about your revu on alsa-firmware - http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3895 | 05:54 |
tsmithe | i have taken care of the first point, but don't understand the second two | 05:54 |
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bddebian | tsmithe: I don't know much about the staticly linked error unfortunately :-( | 05:59 |
bddebian | The license.txt you can just remove from debian/docs or wherever you are installing it from | 06:00 |
tsmithe | i didn't know i was installing it ... | 06:00 |
tsmithe | and where are you getting the statically linked error? | 06:00 |
bddebian | Running linda on the .deb | 06:06 |
tsmithe | ok | 06:08 |
tsmithe | but does it matter? | 06:08 |
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bddebian | tsmithe: Of course | 06:15 |
tsmithe | why? | 06:15 |
bddebian | Because it's an error | 06:15 |
tsmithe | but what does it mean?! | 06:16 |
shawarma | well... Since it's firmware, I wouldn't worry about it. | 06:16 |
tsmithe | there's nothing i can do about it | 06:16 |
shawarma | At least, that's what the path suggests it it? | 06:16 |
tsmithe | yes | 06:16 |
bddebian | ?? | 06:16 |
tsmithe | what? | 06:16 |
shawarma | bddebian: The path for the file is /lib/firmware/lalalalala | 06:16 |
shawarma | bddebian: ...so I'm guessing it's firmware. | 06:17 |
tsmithe | it is firmware | 06:17 |
tsmithe | it's the alsa-firmware package! | 06:17 |
tsmithe | (but patched to move all the files to /lib/firmware where they belong) | 06:17 |
shawarma | bddebian: And apparantly it adheres to the ELF standard, and hence linda tries to see if it's statically linked, which it is. | 06:17 |
shawarma | bddebian: No biggie, IMO. | 06:18 |
tsmithe | yes | 06:18 |
tsmithe | shawarma, can you advocate it? :) | 06:18 |
bddebian | shawarma: So advocate it :) | 06:18 |
tsmithe | bddebian, ? | 06:18 |
shawarma | Heh... I haven't looked the entire package over. | 06:18 |
tsmithe | ok | 06:18 |
tsmithe | well, please do | 06:18 |
shawarma | Uh, gotta run and find my power supply for my laptop before it runs out. | 06:19 |
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bddebian | Where can we get Herd 1 isos? | 06:45 |
tsmithe | cdimage.ubuntu.com | 06:45 |
tsmithe | or no? | 06:45 |
tsmithe | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/herd-1/ | 06:46 |
tsmithe | ^ for your convenience | 06:46 |
bddebian | That'll do, thanks tsmithe | 06:46 |
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tsmithe | :) | 06:47 |
zul | lol http://www.attrition.org/postal/z/033/0871.html | 06:52 |
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bddebian | WTF? :) | 07:04 |
fernando | zul: crazy people | 07:12 |
tsmithe | that is hilarious | 07:15 |
nixternal | whats even funnier is we was a congressional aide :) | 07:17 |
nixternal | and got fired over the whole ordeal | 07:17 |
bddebian | Only because he was dumb enough to get caught? If he would have been better, he would have made a perfect congressman! ;-P | 07:18 |
nixternal | haha | 07:19 |
nixternal | very true | 07:19 |
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imbrandon | hrm who is joey stanford ? | 07:43 |
imbrandon | on irc | 07:43 |
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ajmitch | I don't recall seeing him on irc much | 07:44 |
imbrandon | hrm ok | 07:47 |
imbrandon | i hate it when people file erroronious bugs and then blog about how it sucks | 07:48 |
ajmitch | you plan to flame him by email or public shaming on planet instead? | 07:49 |
imbrandon | both :) | 07:49 |
imbrandon | email already sent ( alot nastier than i will put on plant ) but i will on planet also | 07:49 |
imbrandon | brb smoke break | 07:50 |
bddebian | Great idea | 07:51 |
ajmitch | unprofessional | 07:51 |
ajmitch | he wasn't nasty in his planet post, so public flaming & shaming on planet won't be good | 07:52 |
imbrandon | no i'm just leaving him a comment telling him | 07:53 |
imbrandon | what the problems were / are | 07:53 |
zorglu_ | flaming shaming is not very coc either :) | 07:53 |
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tsmithe | :P | 07:54 |
imbrandon | basicly it boils down to libmtp only made it into main in feisty and amarok wasent compiled with it in edgy] | 07:54 |
ajmitch | yeah, I saw the comment on the kde bug | 07:54 |
imbrandon | ;) | 07:55 |
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ajmitch | & I can just dump .ogg files onto it & it happily plays them | 07:55 |
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imbrandon | ;) | 07:55 |
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Adri2000 | Seveas: do you think that the CC can happen next week or no hope? | 08:56 |
Seveas | Adri2000, no response yet from 3 out of 4 cc members :( | 08:56 |
Adri2000 | :( | 08:56 |
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superm1 | crimsun, ping | 09:43 |
crimsun | superm1: pong | 09:53 |
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bddebian | OK damnit, why can't I get this Compaq Proliant to boot Feisty's kernel? I could do it in Edgy with noapic nolapic acpi=off pci=noacpi | 09:53 |
superm1 | hi crimsun. i wanted to follow up a bit about ivtv-firmware. archive admins haven't acked it, so I was wondering if I should follow up, or if its better to just wait? | 09:53 |
crimsun | superm1: it's the holidays; nothing's being processed. I'd wait until infinity returns from vacation (7 Jan?) before poking. | 09:54 |
superm1 | ah thats what i was assuming | 09:55 |
superm1 | wasn't sure though | 09:55 |
siretart | hey folks | 09:57 |
bddebian | Heya siretart | 09:57 |
siretart | huhu bddebian | 09:57 |
tsmithe | should pbuilder be always able to build with fakeroot? is there a way to make it build with root privileges? | 10:00 |
tsmithe | cos i get this: "ldconfig: Can't create temporary cache file /etc/ld.so.cache~: Permission denied" | 10:01 |
tsmithe | with my library package | 10:01 |
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tsmithe | any way to stop it? | 10:08 |
siretart | tsmithe: does ldconfig run as root? | 10:08 |
tsmithe | well, it's in the pbuilder, but outside it does | 10:09 |
geser | tsmithe: from which target are you running ldconfig? | 10:11 |
superm1 | ping keescook | 10:11 |
geser | target in debian/rules | 10:11 |
crimsun | Hobbsee: is there a signup for the new u-u-s list? | 10:12 |
tsmithe | build | 10:12 |
Hobbsee | superm1: likely on holidays | 10:12 |
Hobbsee | crimsun: as in, for the mailing list? | 10:12 |
crimsun | Hobbsee: correct | 10:12 |
superm1 | Hobbsee, ah wasn't sure. saw him sitting just in -motu | 10:12 |
superm1 | without being away | 10:12 |
geser | tsmithe: "The build target must not do anything that might require root privilege." from http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-source.html | 10:12 |
Hobbsee | or kubuntu.uusATairpost.net? | 10:12 |
tsmithe | geser, ok | 10:12 |
tsmithe | thanks | 10:12 |
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Hobbsee | crimsun: that's another of my addresses - points to the same place. | 10:12 |
Hobbsee | well, kubuntu.sponsors | 10:13 |
crimsun | Hobbsee: hmm, ok. perhaps we should address that now (no pun intended). | 10:13 |
crimsun | siretart: would it be possible to create a ubuntu-universe-sponsors list on tauware? | 10:13 |
tsmithe | geser, sorry - it's install | 10:13 |
tsmithe | can install do it? | 10:13 |
Hobbsee | crimsun: iv'e emailed the canonical admin person address thing that i got given, but no reply as yet - holidays | 10:13 |
crimsun | Hobbsee: ah, ok. | 10:14 |
tsmithe | it doesn't say it can't | 10:15 |
geser | tsmithe: it should be possible from the install target | 10:15 |
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tsmithe | sooo... why does pbuilder die? | 10:16 |
geser | why are you running ldconfig during build? | 10:18 |
geser | or install? | 10:18 |
tsmithe | install | 10:21 |
tsmithe | to set up the library | 10:21 |
tsmithe | i thought it was necessary | 10:21 |
geser | yes, but this change can't be "packaged" | 10:22 |
tsmithe | oh of course | 10:22 |
tsmithe | yes | 10:23 |
geser | grep ldconfig /var/lib/dpkg/info/* | 10:23 |
tsmithe | i'll run it in postinst | 10:23 |
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Sp4rKy | hi | 10:34 |
Sp4rKy | siretart: around ? | 10:35 |
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siretart | jepp | 10:35 |
Sp4rKy | siretart: i get a strange error with revu | 10:37 |
Sp4rKy | interdiff: fork failed: Resource temporarily unavailable | 10:37 |
Sp4rKy | interdiff doesn't seems to work | 10:38 |
Sp4rKy | and i don't know why | 10:38 |
siretart | uh? | 10:38 |
siretart | do you have ressource quotas in /etc/security/limits.conf? | 10:38 |
StevenK | Is tiber running out of processes? | 10:38 |
Sp4rKy | it's not on tiber, but on my revu ^^ | 10:39 |
StevenK | Ah | 10:39 |
StevenK | Is the machine running out of processes? :-) | 10:39 |
Sp4rKy | siretart: and i've nothing on limits.conf | 10:39 |
Sp4rKy | StevenK: nop | 10:40 |
siretart | well, if fork fails, it looks like that.. | 10:40 |
Sp4rKy | strange | 10:40 |
bddebian | Stupid ass Compaq server | 10:43 |
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Sp4rKy | :p | 10:43 |
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tsmithe | why do i get this: dh_install: libresample-dev missing files (usr/include/*), aborting | 10:44 |
tsmithe | if i get this: cp -f resample.h /tmp/buildd/libresample-0.1.3/debian/tmp/usr/include | 10:44 |
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superm1 | crimsun, would you be able to look over a new upstream version i have packaged for mythtv since imbrandon hasn't been around? | 10:45 |
crimsun | superm1: in ~20 mins, yes; please ping me then. | 10:49 |
superm1 | okay will do | 10:49 |
tsmithe | hmm alsa-* still needs revu'age... | 10:49 |
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crimsun | alsa* is very low on my list atm. I have several hundred bugs to triage & coordinate w/ upstream. | 10:52 |
crimsun | you, too, can lose your mind if you wish to join in! | 10:52 |
crimsun | I welcome volunteers! | 10:52 |
Hobbsee | haha | 10:52 |
Hobbsee | they'll run away! | 10:53 |
crimsun | rather, they stay away, but correct nonetheless | 10:53 |
tsmithe | yeah - sounds like a pain | 10:53 |
Em3rald | Heya Hobbsee, hows that love-wiki going? hehe ;) | 10:53 |
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Em3rald | Anyhow, I was instructed to come here and seek a little help with a small compiling error that I cannot muddle through. | 10:54 |
Em3rald | checking for PYGTK... no and then I get configure: error: You need pygtk >=2.4 and the appropriate development headers to proceed | 10:55 |
crimsun | tsmithe: I'd rather not be doing this by myself, since in about 9 months my involvement will be curtailed drastically. | 10:55 |
Em3rald | Now, if I use synaptic to try to install python-gnome2-desktop-dev: | 10:56 |
Em3rald | Depends: python-gtk2-dev but it is not going to be installed | 10:56 |
tsmithe | crimsun, oh dear: why is that? | 10:56 |
crimsun | tsmithe: I'm headed to west Africa | 10:56 |
tsmithe | how come? | 10:56 |
tsmithe | work? | 10:56 |
crimsun | Peace Corps | 10:56 |
tsmithe | hmm. sounds fun? | 10:56 |
Hobbsee | Em3rald: haha. you're writing it | 10:57 |
Hobbsee | Em3rald: then install python-gtk2-dev too | 10:57 |
Em3rald | Hobbsee: I was afraiid you'd say that. Oh, and I tried python-gtk2-dev, but I get further similar errors with "not going to be installed" | 10:58 |
Em3rald | it is rather confusing to me. | 10:58 |
tsmithe | she's gone | 10:58 |
Em3rald | cack | 10:58 |
Em3rald | I just noticed. | 10:58 |
geser | Em3rald: you need to go down to the real problem | 10:59 |
StevenK | Em3rald: You just need to follow it down the chain. python-gnome2-desktop-dev won't be installed because python-gtk2-dev can't be installed, so you try and install why python-gtk2-dev can't be installed. | 10:59 |
geser | python-gtk2-dev should be installable without problems | 10:59 |
Em3rald | Okay, I figured as much, but I am not entirely sure what the root of the problem is. | 10:59 |
StevenK | Em3rald: The root of the problem will be evident when apt/dpkg stops saying "will not be installed" and gives a real reason. | 11:00 |
tsmithe | could someone possibly help me figure this out: why do i get this: dh_install: libresample-dev missing files (usr/include/*), aborting | 11:00 |
tsmithe | if i get this: cp -f resample.h /tmp/buildd/libresample-0.1.3/debian/tmp/usr/include | 11:00 |
Em3rald | hehe, okay, so just keep trying to install things one at a time down the chain then, eh? Alright. I'll keep you posted with anything interesting. Thanks fer da help :D | 11:01 |
crimsun | StevenK: I vaguely remember (via scrollback) that you ran into serpentine's "not enough space in tmp dir" issue; did you find a workaround? | 11:02 |
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Em3rald | Okay folks, so I went back a whole bunch through the chain and came to this, and I dont know how to go further: libfreetype6-dev: Depends: libfreetype6 (=2.1.10-1ubuntu2.2) but 2.2.1-0ubuntu1 is to be installed | 11:05 |
crimsun | mismatched/missing distribution components? | 11:06 |
Em3rald | It looks like I am downgrading something somehow. Hmm ........... now I am thinking perhaps you might be right crimsun. Hrrm. | 11:07 |
crimsun | apt-cache policy libfreetype6 | 11:07 |
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crimsun | no, you didn't. | 11:09 |
Em3rald | hmm | 11:09 |
crimsun | edgy has the same version that feisty has, which is 2.2.1-5 | 11:09 |
crimsun | you have a third-party repository that is screwing you | 11:09 |
Em3rald | Oooh, that could be indeed. | 11:10 |
Em3rald | Perhaps it's Seveas' repo. | 11:10 |
Seveas | ? | 11:10 |
crimsun | the apt-cache policy command will reveal more. | 11:10 |
Em3rald | hehe, I just thought I would blame it on you since you are here. | 11:10 |
Em3rald | crimsun: alright, what in particular am I looking for in this output? | 11:11 |
Seveas | Em3rald, I don't have packages that are in ubuntu proper as well | 11:11 |
crimsun | Em3rald: pastebin it | 11:11 |
Em3rald | crimsun, alright. | 11:11 |
Em3rald | http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/846729 | 11:13 |
crimsun | right, you have some random libfreetype6 package. Forcibly remove it, then apt-get -f install | 11:13 |
Em3rald | forcibly remove as in apt-get remove, correct? | 11:14 |
Em3rald | Yoy, I am thinking not. LOL, it removes all kinds of other stuff that I highly doubt should be removed. | 11:15 |
crimsun | dpkg -P --force-Ddepends libfreetype6 | 11:16 |
crimsun | without the random capitalised 'D' | 11:16 |
Em3rald | ah yes :D | 11:17 |
superm1 | crimsun, now good? | 11:18 |
Em3rald | a scary thing is happening .... after the dpkg (which was fine), I did the install -f, but it's removing like everything ... {shudder} | 11:18 |
crimsun | superm1: no | 11:19 |
superm1 | ook | 11:19 |
crimsun | busy w/ alsa support issues. | 11:19 |
superm1 | not a problem. i'll stick around for a hour or so more, if you get a moment go ahead and ping me, elsewise i'll catch up with ya later today | 11:19 |
superm1 | or tomorrow | 11:20 |
tsmithe | argh! stupid dh_install!!! | 11:20 |
Em3rald | tsmithe: is that to me? and here's the pastebin of the proposed changes to my system: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/846732 | 11:21 |
tsmithe | no - it's to dh_install!!! it's being silly with my package's files | 11:21 |
Em3rald | ah | 11:22 |
tsmithe | Em3rald, hmm your system looks quite b0rked | 11:22 |
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Em3rald | tsmithe: which is strange becuase i haven't encountered any problems at all until this little compile problem occurred. | 11:22 |
tsmithe | :( | 11:22 |
Em3rald | But I do in fact have quite a wacky array of wild and crazy repos and such, so it's not really a surprise. | 11:23 |
Em3rald | I was || this close to doing a complete reinstall with my edgy CD, perhaps this is just my excuse to do that. | 11:23 |
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Em3rald | well, after a bit of muddling, I am apt-get installing ubuntu-desktop with the hopes that it can return some of my borked stuff to normal. | 11:25 |
Em3rald | hehe, but before I even *think* of shutting down my system and/or rebooting for any reason, I am going to back all my critical stuff up to a separate HD, and burn a fresh copy of the Edgy installer CD. Just in case. ROFL | 11:27 |
crimsun | superm1: ping, url for source packages? | 11:43 |
superm1 | pong.... sure one sec let me grab it | 11:43 |
superm1 | crimsun, for mythtv - the bzr branch @ http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mythtv/mythtv/ubuntu and the new tarball is at http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/m/mythtv/mythtv_0.20-svn20061209.orig.tar.gz | 11:44 |
superm1 | crimsun, and after mythtv, mythplugins bzr branch @ http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mythtv/mythplugins/ubuntu and the new tarball is at http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/m/mythplugins/mythplugins_0.20-svn20061209.orig.tar.gz | 11:44 |
crimsun | superm1: are these in response to https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2006-December/001100.html ? | 11:45 |
superm1 | no they weren't in response to that. | 11:46 |
superm1 | i hadnt even seen that | 11:46 |
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superm1 | i've had these ready and i've been updating them for some time, but imbrandon hasnt had time to ack them | 11:46 |
superm1 | and look them over | 11:46 |
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superm1 | christian of debian multimedia has regularly been releasing updates, and i've been talking to him with some of the changes that i've been putting in too | 11:48 |
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crimsun | superm1: I'll look at the branch in a few moments; how does "our" branch compare with upstream's fixes branch in svn? | 11:51 |
superm1 | well it lags by about 3 weeks right now. the debian packaging is all that is in our bzr branch. all the 0.20 & svn-fixes is sitting in christian's tarball | 11:52 |
crimsun | ok, as long as we have upstream's fixes branch integrated | 11:52 |
superm1 | yes | 11:52 |
crimsun | enqueued, I'll check when I get to a coffee shop. | 11:52 |
superm1 | i considered jumping ahead of christian to keep up with upstream fixes branch, but i think its better to just let him grab the new fixes and follow that | 11:53 |
superm1 | okay | 11:53 |
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superm1 | crimsun, i'm gonna run over to the airport to pick someone up. if i can't manage to get online with jdong's barnacle, then email me with any comments that you have, superm1@ubuntu.com | 12:00 |
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