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bddebianLater gang12:18
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kgoetzif i build a package with dpkg-buildpackage, change something then rebuild, will it pick up the changes? or do i have to remove the directory, make the changes again, then build again?12:20
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shawarmakgoetz: That depends on what you mean by "rebuild".12:21
kgoetzshawarma: re run dpkg-buildpackage12:21
shawarmakgoetz: it will run the clean target of you debian/rules and build again.12:23
shawarmakgoetz: So if the clean target does what it's supposed to, you should be fine.12:23
kgoetzshawarma: i'm modifying an existing package, so i'll hope its setup right. thanks :)12:23
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Storkmeis this the right place to ask about developing gnome panel applets?12:46
crimsunno.12:46
Storkmewhere is?12:46
crimsunirc.gnome.org12:46
crimsunor ircd, I don't remember which.12:46
Storkmeok,thanks12:46
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imbrandonello all02:11
zulhey imbrandon 02:14
kgoetzshould i look on h.u.c or w.u.c for info on diff? (the bit in the packageing guide)02:15
crimsunare you generating or applying a diff?02:16
kgoetzgenerating02:16
crimsunthen it's best to read diff(1)02:16
kgoetzcool. thanks02:17
crimsunnp02:17
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imbrandonhrm03:08
imbrandonis ajmitch arround ?03:08
crimsunidle     : 0 days 3 hours 48 mins 10 secs03:09
imbrandondrat03:09
imbrandoncrimsun, you know anything about setting up a i386 pbuilder on amd6403:09
imbrandonerr x86_6403:09
imbrandoni dont see any arch values03:09
imbrandonin pbuilderrc03:09
crimsunI changed the script directly when I did it03:10
crimsunnot recommended, not the best way, etc.03:10
imbrandoni finaly got the new dualcore buildd made and installed etc03:10
imbrandonwhat script ?03:10
crimsunpbuilder03:10
imbrandonahh03:11
imbrandonhrm 03:11
shawarmaimbrandon: There's a howto on the wiki.03:11
imbrandonshawarma, i seen the ones for chroots but not pbuilder03:11
imbrandoni know its similar but not the same03:11
shawarmaimbrandon: I'm quite sure it's there. Anyhow, it's a matter for passing "--debootstrapopts --arch --debootstrapopts i386" or something like that. 03:12
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shawarmaimbrandon: That's pretty much it. Maybe prepend the entire thing with "linux32" (install that package first).03:12
imbrandoncool, thanks for the tips03:13
imbrandoni'll look a little more03:13
imbrandonso realy after creat it will rember ?03:13
shawarmaimbrandon: Yes.03:13
imbrandonrockon , ok that works then03:14
shawarmaimbrandon: The architecture is compiled into dpkg, so on subsequent runs it will consider itself an i386 environment.03:14
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shawarmaimbrandon: ..and passing those debootstrapopts will make it install the correct dpkg. And yes, I *do* mean "--debootstrapopts --arch --debootstrapopts i386".03:15
imbrandonright i actualy ready that somewhere else03:15
shawarmaimbrandon: It will become painfully obivous why if you try be clever about it. :-)03:15
imbrandonso it wasent totaly foreign03:15
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crimsunit's thanks to pbuilder being a bit ... wily about tokenizing via whitespace03:16
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imbrandonpbuilder-feisty-i386 create --debootstrapopts --arch --debootstrapopts i38603:17
imbrandonerr03:17
shawarmacrimsun: hm? Unless "wily" means reluctant I don't see what you mean.03:17
shawarmaimbrandon: Move "create" to the end.03:17
shawarmaimbrandon: For pbuilder order of the arguments matter.03:18
crimsunshawarma: it's sarcasm, so, yes.03:18
imbrandonshawarma, actualy i thoink you have it backwords03:18
imbrandonthe action has to be first03:19
imbrandonlike pbuilder login --save-after-login03:19
imbrandon:)03:19
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shawarmacrimsun: Oh... It's too late/early here for sarcasm in foreign languages.03:19
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shawarmaimbrandon: Ah.. Yes, you're right.03:19
shawarmaimbrandon: What is pbuilder-feisty-i386 ?03:19
imbrandona pbuilder-distrobution.sh variant03:19
shawarmaimbrandon: Oh, ok. I don't use those. I've rolled my own. :-)03:20
shawarmaNevertheless, I'm off to bed. It's hella late here.03:20
shawarmaG'night, guys!03:20
imbrandoni've actualy done all this before with multi pbuilders set up for the users, i'm just trying to mix amd64 and i386 into the mix too this time03:20
imbrandongnight03:21
imbrandonthanks03:21
shawarmaany time.03:21
crimsun'night03:21
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imbrandonhrm03:29
imbrandonwhere is hobbsee when you need her03:30
imbrandonheh03:30
imbrandoncrimsun, got a sec ( or the access ) to tar up a stock /var/cache/pbuilder directory ?03:32
crimsunI don't, sorry, but you can pull it from the vmware machine, probably?03:32
imbrandonahhh true , i forgot about that03:33
imbrandonthanks03:33
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bddebianHeya gang03:38
kgoetzhey :)03:39
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imbrandonheya bddebian and kgoetz 03:39
bddebianHeya kgoetz, imbrandon03:39
kgoetzhi imbrandon 03:39
imbrandoncrimsun, is there a known issue with flashplugin on edgy ?03:45
imbrandoni have the package installed but dosent show up in ff03:45
crimsunthere are many, many issues.03:45
imbrandonwhat dir is the actual so supose to be in, maybe the link dident make it03:45
imbrandonerr it dident make the link03:45
crimsunare you using edgy's or edgy-backports's?03:45
imbrandonplain edgy, i dont care for backports as a whole03:46
imbrandoni can cherry pick that one package if its worth it though03:46
crimsunyou probably need to update-flashplugin or whatever03:46
imbrandonk03:46
crimsunfor -backports, you'd need to dpkg-reconfigure flashplugin-nonfree03:47
crimsunmdke ran into the latter03:47
bddebianHeya crimsun03:47
crimsunhi bddebian 03:47
imbrandonkk03:47
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kgoetzdo i use dpkg-buildpackage to use dsc's to extract source packages?04:15
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bddebiandpkg-source -x04:17
kgoetzthanks bddebian 04:18
bddebianNP04:18
kgoetzty04:18
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imbrandonapt-get build-dep firefox05:22
imbrandonerr05:22
kgoetz:)05:23
kgoetzyou too? :)05:23
imbrandonme too ?05:24
ajmitchthe rest of us still have some measure of sanity05:24
kgoetz< imbrandon> apt-get build-dep firefox05:24
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imbrandonif you mean building ff yea, i'm trying to apply the 2.0.0.1 update05:24
imbrandonwe'll see how successfull i am05:25
imbrandonheh05:25
kgoetzhheh05:25
imbrandonheya ajmitch 05:25
ajmitchhello05:25
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imbrandonhehe05:26
Burgundaviaajmitch: maybe it is one of those days, I am exhausted as well05:26
ajmitchmaybe it's because I spent the last 5 hours walking up one of the local hills05:27
imbrandonheya Burgundavia 05:27
ajmitchkgoetz probably remembers what the hills round dunedin are like05:29
bddebian"The hills are alive..."05:29
kgoetzajmitch: yes, i walked a few :)05:29
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bddebianheh05:30
jdongimbrandon: speaking from experience applying patches to Ubuntu firefox is almost always doomed to failure :)05:30
jdongyou'd have better luck putting reiser4 into a grsec Xen kernel05:30
jdongit does build from feisty cleanly though05:30
kgoetzi'm only building FF and it takes a fwe hours. i dread to think about building openoffice05:32
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imbrandonjdong, i know, i've built ff quite a few times ( in and out of ubutnu )05:36
imbrandon:)05:36
jdong:)05:36
jdongshowoff :)05:36
imbrandoni've probably built ff more than the packages i "look after"05:36
imbrandonas far as {k}ubuntu05:36
kgoetzlol05:36
imbrandonits normaly one of those thing you tripple check you changes, set the build and goto bed05:37
imbrandon:)05:37
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imbrandonhrm what package is filterdiff part of ? dosent seem to be installed by default05:53
imbrandoni hate reloading a build box05:53
imbrandoni need to make a mata package with all the cruft i use in it05:53
kgoetzneed to save your package lists05:53
imbrandonheh yea05:54
imbrandonbut i seldom reload, mostly only when i change major hardware05:54
imbrandonatleaste the build boxes05:54
imbrandonmy lappy i reload once a week it seems lol05:54
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kgoetzlol05:55
imbrandonahh patchutils05:55
imbrandonthere we go05:55
imbrandonugh crimsun still arround ?06:00
kgoetzwatching the PID column in top go up. 1 build of firefox sparks a gazillion processes. its obscene06:00
imbrandonkgoetz, hehe something to give my 4 cores a workout :)06:01
kgoetz:o06:01
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imbrandonhum it seems "filterdiff -x '*CVS*' temp.diff > newtemp.diff"06:01
imbrandononly sorta doies what i want06:01
imbrandondoes06:01
kgoetzunfortunately, its not even thrashin this computer. *shrugs* as to why06:02
imbrandonthat filters all the CVS chunks out except the "diff -ruN *" lines for them06:02
imbrandon:(06:02
imbrandoni guess i need to read the man a bit more06:02
kgoetzruN... thats what i was after before. 06:03
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imbrandonhum06:04
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imbrandonugh06:16
joejaxxwhat is wrong imbrandon ? :(06:18
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imbrandonjoejaxx, CVS cruft06:21
imbrandonbrandon@hood:~/devel/mozilla$ filterdiff -x '*/CVS/*' temp.diff |grep -v '^diff.*CVS' |wc -c06:22
imbrandon226456106:22
imbrandon:)06:22
joejaxximbrandon: LOL06:22
imbrandonanyhow got it fixed up now06:22
joejaxxthat is good06:22
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imbrandoncrimsun, flashplugin from backports works fine, thanks07:16
crimsunnp.07:16
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mohammadsiretart: Hello07:53
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crimsunmohammad: it's quite early in the morning for him.07:54
imbrandonnight all07:55
crimsun'night07:56
mohammadcrimsun: Hello, I have uploaded to http://revu.tauware.de/index.py but I cannot login07:56
mohammadcrimsun: I am newbie to revu. Do you know what should I do to get my password?07:59
crimsunmohammad: have you followed the directions in the topic?07:59
imbrandonhttp://revu.tauware.de/lostpw.py?email=your@email.tld08:00
mohammadcrimsun: Yes. right now my package is listed there.08:00
crimsunmohammad: have you tried recovering your passwd as imbrandon suggests?08:01
mohammadcrimsun: Yes. with mderakhs@math... I singed the package. But in changelog my email is derakhshani+zekr@gmail08:03
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mohammadcrimsun: Using mderakhs@math I get a message whose its decryption is "None"08:04
mohammadcrimsun: Using derakhshani+zekr@gmail I do not get any encrypted password at all08:05
mohammadcrimsun: Do you have any suggestion?08:05
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crimsunmohammad: use the matching e-mail08:10
mohammadcrimsun: So you mean I should compile my package again?08:11
imbrandonchange the mail in the changelog and debuild -S -sa , then reupload , yes08:12
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mohammadOk, thank you 08:12
crimsunyay, my Hobbsee-summoning wand works08:12
imbrandonhehe08:12
imbrandonheya Hobbsee 08:13
Hobbseecrimsun: hehe!  heya08:14
Hobbseewoulda been on here earlier, except my POS internet connection....08:14
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Hobbseehey imbrandon 08:14
crimsunheya :)08:14
Hobbseecrimsun: what was i being summoned for?08:14
Hobbseeah :)08:14
crimsun(I think imbrandon needed something)08:14
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imbrandonyea i had your login ready for build.imbrandon.com08:15
imbrandongot a sec Hobbsee ?08:15
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elkbuntutry her now, imbrandon08:16
imbrandon01:15 < imbrandon> yea i had your login ready for build.imbrandon.com                                                                                                    Lathiat08:16
imbrandon01:15 < imbrandon> got a sec Hobbsee ?         08:17
imbrandongah08:17
imbrandonsorry Lathiat 08:17
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Hobbsee_argh.08:17
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Hobbsee_imbrandon: woot :)08:17
=== Hobbsee poke elkbuntu back
Hobbseeimbrandon: yeah, i have a sec, if my connection holds08:18
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Hobbseehehe08:18
Hobbseeyou got the imitation one that the redneck made, elky....08:19
imbrandonHobbsee, ssh -p5022 hobbsee@build.imbrandon.com08:19
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crimsunpoor redneck^Wbrandon.08:19
imbrandonhahaha08:19
Hobbseehaha08:19
elkbunturofl08:19
Hobbseeooh, passphrase for ssh keys now :)08:20
Hobbseeimbrandon: got it :)08:20
imbrandonyea ssh keys == good08:20
Hobbseeindeed08:20
imbrandonok i need to finish up the pbuilders08:21
imbrandonbut thats the login info08:21
imbrandonits a x86_64 dual core 3ghz intel pentium d , 1 gig ram08:21
imbrandonJUST for building08:21
Hobbseeimbrandon: nice :)08:21
imbrandon50GB space on /storage iirc08:22
imbrandonso should be plenty08:22
Hobbseenice :)08:22
Hobbseeyeah08:22
imbrandoni'm in the middle of setting up pbuilders for dapper/edgy/feisty/sid both amd64 and i386 for all08:22
imbrandonso should be able to build justa bout anything08:22
Hobbsee:)08:23
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imbrandonbtw do you still have a tar with the base dirs we were using minus the base.tar.gz ?08:23
imbrandoni looked everywhere , i dident seem to back it up so i'm having to make it all over08:23
imbrandoni have all the pbuilder-* scripts 08:24
imbrandonjust not the /var/cache/pbuilder/* struc08:24
Hobbseeimbrandon: i dont think so.08:25
imbrandonhum ok08:25
Hobbseehang on, how does that work?08:25
imbrandondoes what work ?08:25
Hobbseea tar with base dirs, without the .tar.gz?08:25
Hobbseeisnt the .tar.gz the tar with base dirs?08:25
imbrandonerr not the base.tar.gz its self08:26
imbrandonthe one with the apt.conf and aptcache and results and pbuilderrc08:26
imbrandone.g. /var/cache/pbuilder/feisty/* on my old build box08:26
imbrandonbut no base.tar.gz08:26
Hobbseeah right08:26
Hobbseeoh, do i still have that....08:27
imbrandonwe had a tarbal of that somewhere i thought on buntudot iirc, but maybe not08:27
Hobbseeyou kinda need the base.tar.gz for that anyway08:27
Hobbseeyeah, i had my config files and all that on there originally08:27
imbrandonyea but i can pbuilder create and make a new base08:27
Hobbseeyeah08:27
imbrandonthe other stuff is the pita to config08:27
Hobbseenah, havent for a long tiem08:27
Hobbseeindeed08:27
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imbrandonhum ok, so its no longer ?08:28
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Hobbseenah, i dont think so08:29
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Hobbsees/s/d08:29
imbrandonalso i have my fast mirror publicly avail too now ( only for {edgy,feisty} and {x86,amd64,source} )08:29
imbrandonbut with -backports -security etc etc etc08:30
Hobbseeimbrandon: i can copy it onto buntudot, or just pastebin my pbuilderrc08:30
Hobbseenice :)08:30
imbrandondeb{,-src} http://mirror.imbrandon.com/ubuntu edgy{,-backports,-security,-updates} main restricted universe multiverse08:31
imbrandon^^ if anyone wants to use it08:31
Hobbseenice :)08:31
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ajmitchimbrandon: how often is it updated?08:31
imbrandonhourly08:31
imbrandonits on a hourly cron for both edgy and feisty08:32
ajmitchuseful08:32
Hobbseeimbrandon: uploading08:32
imbrandoni might add dapper to it sometime08:32
Hobbseebah, what's the point?08:32
imbrandonand sid / etch maybe08:33
imbrandonjust because 08:33
imbrandon:)08:33
Hobbseeimbrandon: uploaded to /home/sarah on your build machine08:34
imbrandonkk08:34
imbrandoncool08:34
Hobbsee:)08:34
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imbrandonerr /home/hobbsee ?08:34
Hobbseeyeah08:35
imbrandon:)08:35
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ajmitchgreat, almost all packed10:38
Hobbseeajmitch: yay! 10:38
ajmitchthen I can leave for 10 days!10:38
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ajmitchand there was much rejoicing in #ubuntu-motu10:40
elkbuntuajmitch, no, that happens once you're gone10:46
ajmitchI didn't think you'd be able to hold it back that long10:48
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elkbuntuajmitch, well... considering people here probably wont notice until you're gone...10:54
gnomefreaki take it most of the devs are on holiday?10:56
elkbuntui believe so10:57
elkbuntusome we may not see until the new year10:57
gnomefreaki figured as much :(10:57
elkbuntui wasnt really around for this period last year.. i was still a total newb back then :10:58
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StevenKelkbuntu: You may well get a mail from my wife and me tonight.10:59
kgoetzelkbuntu: it went quiet, just like now10:59
elkbuntuhaha... the year has only wiped away the 'total' part, i know10:59
elkbuntuStevenK, hmm?10:59
elkbuntukgoetz, tbh, i cant say im surprised11:00
StevenKelkbuntu: Your blog, you dork. :-P11:00
elkbuntuaaaah11:00
elkbuntuschweet!11:00
elkbuntuthere was two in the inbox this morning, thanks to the post last night11:01
StevenKNice!11:01
StevenKWho from?11:01
elkbuntuStevenK, PM11:03
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StevenKajmitch: Then you can get them to join in!11:03
kgoetzcan i ask an on topic question?11:03
StevenKkgoetz: No.11:03
kgoetz:(11:03
elkbuntuajmitch, wake them up tomorrow morning :11:03
StevenKOn topic questions are off topic11:03
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elkbuntuthey keep meaning to rename the channel to #ubuntu-devel-offtopic11:04
elkbuntujust nobody's got round to it :11:04
elkbuntuwhat did you want to ask, kgoetz?11:05
kgoetzhow can i generate a .dsc from a changed source directory?11:05
ajmitchdebuild -S 11:05
StevenKOr dpkg-source -b11:06
ajmitchmaybe with -sa if you need to upload the orig.tar.gz11:06
kgoetzin the dir with the /debian/ directory, or the one above?11:06
ajmitchor mash the keyboard & see what happens11:06
StevenKkgoetz: For ajmitch's answer, in the one above, and for mine, the one above that.11:06
kgoetzajmitch: 's thing builds doesnt it?11:08
kgoetzor do i have to build to get the new dsc?11:08
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ajmitchwe can tell you to RTFM? excellent :)11:10
ajmitch-S doesn't build a binary package11:10
ajmitchit just runs the clean target, puts together a source package11:10
kgoetzi ask asuming i need to build a dsc to debdiff11:10
ajmitchyep11:11
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ajmitchyou'll be tested on it later11:15
kgoetzlucky your going away... it'll give me a chance to write down the answers :)11:16
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ajmitchlaserjock will welcome contributors to the guide :)11:17
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kgoetzdoes the debuild -S overwrite the dsc thats already in teh directory?11:19
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StevenKkgoetz: https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/28879611:33
kgoetz:o11:35
kgoetzonly 5 hours?11:35
StevenKHeh11:35
StevenKThe powerpc build is 7 and a half hours11:35
tsmitheurgh that's longer than when i had gentoo11:35
kgoetz5 hours for one arch? :S11:36
StevenKOoooh.11:36
tsmitheyeah - that can't be right11:36
StevenKThe sparc build is 11 hours11:36
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ajmitchnight all11:36
ajmitchmight see you tomorrow, if not, have a good week :)11:37
StevenKajmitch: Night! Enjoy your holiday away from us psychos.11:37
kgoetzlater :)11:37
elkbuntucya ajmitch11:38
kgoetzhow sane an option is croscompiling?11:38
StevenKNot very.11:38
kgoetzoh well.11:39
StevenKDoing it may well show up a myriad of compiler bugs that *will* send you insane debugging.11:39
kgoetzi dont think i'm going to do that then... i have enough trouble getting stuff building11:39
kgoetzand i'm not really making changes11:39
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StevenKHe may well see the U-word and go for the throat.11:46
kgoetztrue...11:46
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kgoetzif you run pbuilder update will it update all your base.gz's or just one?11:58
StevenKpbuilder update will only update base.tgz11:58
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kgoetzso only the default11:59
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kgoetzare all changes are done diff.gz? debian and ubuntu?12:10
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FujitsuThey can't be done anywhere else, so yes.12:16
kgoetzty12:17
Fujitsunp12:18
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tsmithehmm ... so how do i package a library?12:49
Hobbseetsmithe: seen the debian library packaging guide?12:50
tsmithenope12:50
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Hobbsee:)12:50
tsmithedanke12:51
Hobbsee:012:51
Hobbsee* :)12:51
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kgoetzcan i turn the .diff.gz into a bunch of different diffs, or does it have to be monolithic?02:00
fdovinghas to be one.02:03
kgoetzaw.02:03
fdovinghowever the contents of the .diff might be other diffs.02:03
kgoetzwould i be able to just cut out difs from the main one?02:04
fdovingwell, that's doable.02:05
kgoetzheh. yes. 'just' cut out ;)02:05
fdovingin a perferct world the .diff.gz will be the complete debian/ dir.02:06
fdovingit should be possible to 'fake' you've got the upstream source, and just extract the files from the diff,somehow.02:07
fdovingI haven't tried that though.02:07
geserif the diff.gz contains only files in debian/ the right value for -p should do the trick02:09
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fdovingyeah, patch -p1 will do that for you.02:12
fdovingyou can also skip the pices for files which is not inside debian/02:13
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tsmithehi i have two packages on revu which are for ubuntustudio, and _MMA_ (you there) would like revu'ing as soon as possible. is there anyone free to do this?04:53
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tsmithealsa-tools needs revu'age, please: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=389204:54
tsmithealsa-firmware, the other, is just being fixed04:55
tsmithewhere's bddebian when you need him04:57
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bddebianHeya gang05:26
fernandobddebian: hey05:28
bddebianHeya fernando05:28
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Lutin___heya Toadstool05:35
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Toadstoolhey LUtin_ 05:39
Toadstoolhi everybody05:39
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bddebianHeya Toadstool05:40
Toadstoolhey bddebian 05:42
Toadstoolhow is it going?05:42
bddebianFair to midland, thanks.  You?05:42
Toadstoolgreat!05:42
Toadstoolwell, I'd be better if i weren't at work :p05:43
bddebianHeh, I hear that05:43
gpocentekhello Toadstool, hello bddebian 05:48
Toadstoolhey gpocentek !05:49
Toadstoollong time no see :)05:49
Toadstoolhow are you?05:49
bddebianHeya gpocentek05:49
gpocentekToadstool: fine :)05:49
gpocentekToadstool: you seem to have become a very busy man ;)05:51
Toadstoolyeah :/05:51
Toadstooltoo much work during the day and so many things to do after :)05:52
gpocentekhehe05:52
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tsmitheah bddebian; i need to ask you about your revu on alsa-firmware - http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=389505:54
tsmithei have taken care of the first point, but don't understand the second two05:54
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bddebiantsmithe: I don't know much about the staticly linked error unfortunately :-(05:59
bddebianThe license.txt you can just remove from debian/docs or wherever you are installing it from06:00
tsmithei didn't know i was installing it ...06:00
tsmitheand where are you getting the statically linked error?06:00
bddebianRunning linda on the .deb06:06
tsmitheok06:08
tsmithebut does it matter?06:08
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bddebiantsmithe: Of course06:15
tsmithewhy?06:15
bddebianBecause it's an error06:15
tsmithebut what does it mean?!06:16
shawarmawell... Since it's firmware, I wouldn't worry about it.06:16
tsmithethere's nothing i can do about it06:16
shawarmaAt least, that's what the path suggests it it?06:16
tsmitheyes06:16
bddebian??06:16
tsmithewhat?06:16
shawarmabddebian: The path for the file is /lib/firmware/lalalalala06:16
shawarmabddebian: ...so I'm guessing it's firmware. 06:17
tsmitheit is firmware 06:17
tsmitheit's the alsa-firmware package!06:17
tsmithe(but patched to move all the files to /lib/firmware where they belong)06:17
shawarmabddebian: And apparantly it adheres to the ELF standard, and hence linda tries to see if it's statically linked, which it is.06:17
shawarmabddebian: No biggie, IMO.06:18
tsmitheyes06:18
tsmitheshawarma, can you advocate it? :)06:18
bddebianshawarma: So advocate it :)06:18
tsmithebddebian, ?06:18
shawarmaHeh... I haven't looked the entire package over.06:18
tsmitheok06:18
tsmithewell, please do06:18
shawarmaUh, gotta run and find my power supply for my laptop before it runs out.06:19
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bddebianWhere can we get Herd 1 isos?06:45
tsmithecdimage.ubuntu.com06:45
tsmitheor no?06:45
tsmithehttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/herd-1/06:46
tsmithe^ for your convenience06:46
bddebianThat'll do, thanks tsmithe06:46
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tsmithe:)06:47
zullol http://www.attrition.org/postal/z/033/0871.html06:52
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bddebianWTF? :)07:04
fernandozul: crazy people07:12
tsmithethat is hilarious07:15
nixternalwhats even funnier is we was a congressional aide :)07:17
nixternaland got fired over the whole ordeal07:17
bddebianOnly because he was dumb enough to get caught?  If he would have been better, he would have made a perfect congressman! ;-P07:18
nixternalhaha07:19
nixternalvery true07:19
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imbrandonhrm who is joey stanford ?07:43
imbrandonon irc07:43
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ajmitchI don't recall seeing him on irc much07:44
imbrandonhrm ok07:47
imbrandoni hate it when people file erroronious bugs and then blog about how it sucks07:48
ajmitchyou plan to flame him by email or public shaming on planet instead?07:49
imbrandonboth :)07:49
imbrandonemail already sent ( alot nastier than i will put on plant ) but i will on planet also07:49
imbrandonbrb smoke break07:50
bddebianGreat idea07:51
ajmitchunprofessional07:51
ajmitchhe wasn't nasty in his planet post, so public flaming & shaming on planet won't be good07:52
imbrandonno i'm just leaving him a comment telling him 07:53
imbrandonwhat the problems were / are07:53
zorglu_flaming shaming is not very coc either :)07:53
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tsmithe:P07:54
imbrandonbasicly it boils down to libmtp only made it into main in feisty and amarok wasent compiled with it in edgy] 07:54
ajmitchyeah, I saw the comment on the kde bug07:54
imbrandon;)07:55
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imbrandon;)07:55
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Adri2000Seveas: do you think that the CC can happen next week or no hope?08:56
SeveasAdri2000, no response yet from 3 out of 4 cc members :(08:56
Adri2000:(08:56
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superm1crimsun, ping09:43
crimsunsuperm1: pong09:53
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bddebianOK damnit, why can't I get this Compaq Proliant to boot Feisty's kernel?  I could do it in Edgy with noapic nolapic acpi=off pci=noacpi09:53
superm1hi crimsun.  i wanted to follow up a bit about ivtv-firmware.  archive admins haven't acked it, so I was wondering if I should follow up, or if its better to just wait?09:53
crimsunsuperm1: it's the holidays; nothing's being processed. I'd wait until infinity returns from vacation (7 Jan?) before poking.09:54
superm1ah thats what i was assuming09:55
superm1wasn't sure though09:55
siretarthey folks09:57
bddebianHeya siretart09:57
siretarthuhu bddebian 09:57
tsmitheshould pbuilder be always able to build with fakeroot? is there a way to make it build with root privileges?10:00
tsmithecos i get this: "ldconfig: Can't create temporary cache file /etc/ld.so.cache~: Permission denied"10:01
tsmithewith my library package10:01
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tsmitheany way to stop it?10:08
siretarttsmithe: does ldconfig run as root?10:08
tsmithewell, it's in the pbuilder, but outside it does10:09
gesertsmithe: from which target are you running ldconfig?10:11
superm1ping keescook 10:11
gesertarget in debian/rules10:11
crimsunHobbsee: is there a signup for the new u-u-s list?10:12
tsmithebuild10:12
Hobbseesuperm1: likely on holidays10:12
Hobbseecrimsun: as in, for the mailing list?10:12
crimsunHobbsee: correct10:12
superm1Hobbsee, ah wasn't sure.  saw him sitting just in -motu10:12
superm1without being away10:12
gesertsmithe: "The build target must not do anything that might require root privilege." from http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-source.html10:12
Hobbseeor kubuntu.uusATairpost.net?10:12
tsmithegeser, ok10:12
tsmithethanks10:12
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Hobbseecrimsun: that's another of my addresses - points to the same place.10:12
Hobbseewell, kubuntu.sponsors10:13
crimsunHobbsee: hmm, ok. perhaps we should address that now (no pun intended).10:13
crimsunsiretart: would it be possible to create a ubuntu-universe-sponsors list on tauware?10:13
tsmithegeser, sorry - it's install10:13
tsmithecan install do it?10:13
Hobbseecrimsun: iv'e emailed the canonical admin person address thing that i got given, but no reply as yet - holidays10:13
crimsunHobbsee: ah, ok.10:14
tsmitheit doesn't say it can't10:15
gesertsmithe: it should be possible from the install target10:15
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tsmithesooo... why does pbuilder die?10:16
geserwhy are you running ldconfig during build?10:18
geseror install?10:18
tsmitheinstall10:21
tsmitheto set up the library10:21
tsmithei thought it was necessary10:21
geseryes, but this change can't be "packaged"10:22
tsmitheoh of course10:22
tsmitheyes10:23
gesergrep ldconfig /var/lib/dpkg/info/*10:23
tsmithei'll run it in postinst10:23
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Sp4rKyhi10:34
Sp4rKysiretart: around ?10:35
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siretartjepp 10:35
Sp4rKysiretart: i get a strange error with revu10:37
Sp4rKyinterdiff: fork failed: Resource temporarily unavailable10:37
Sp4rKyinterdiff doesn't seems to work10:38
Sp4rKyand i don't know why10:38
siretartuh?10:38
siretartdo you have ressource quotas in /etc/security/limits.conf?10:38
StevenKIs tiber running out of processes?10:38
Sp4rKyit's not on tiber, but on my revu ^^10:39
StevenKAh10:39
StevenKIs the machine running out of processes? :-)10:39
Sp4rKysiretart: and i've nothing on limits.conf10:39
Sp4rKyStevenK: nop10:40
siretartwell, if fork fails, it looks like that.. 10:40
Sp4rKystrange10:40
bddebianStupid ass Compaq server10:43
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Sp4rKy:p10:43
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tsmithewhy do i get this: dh_install: libresample-dev missing files (usr/include/*), aborting10:44
tsmitheif i get this: cp -f resample.h /tmp/buildd/libresample-0.1.3/debian/tmp/usr/include10:44
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superm1crimsun, would you be able to look over a new upstream version i have packaged for mythtv since imbrandon hasn't been around?10:45
crimsunsuperm1: in ~20 mins, yes; please ping me then.10:49
superm1okay will do10:49
tsmithehmm alsa-* still needs revu'age...10:49
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crimsunalsa* is very low on my list atm. I have several hundred bugs to triage & coordinate w/ upstream.10:52
crimsunyou, too, can lose your mind if you wish to join in!10:52
crimsunI welcome volunteers!10:52
Hobbseehaha10:52
Hobbseethey'll run away!10:53
crimsunrather, they stay away, but correct nonetheless10:53
tsmitheyeah - sounds like a pain10:53
Em3raldHeya Hobbsee, hows that love-wiki going?  hehe ;)10:53
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Em3raldAnyhow, I was instructed to come here and seek a little help with a small compiling error that I cannot muddle through.10:54
Em3raldchecking for PYGTK... no    and then I get     configure: error: You need pygtk >=2.4 and the appropriate development headers to proceed10:55
crimsuntsmithe: I'd rather not be doing this by myself, since in about 9 months my involvement will be curtailed drastically.10:55
Em3raldNow, if I use synaptic to try to install python-gnome2-desktop-dev:10:56
Em3rald Depends: python-gtk2-dev but it is not going to be installed10:56
tsmithecrimsun, oh dear: why is that?10:56
crimsuntsmithe: I'm headed to west Africa10:56
tsmithehow come?10:56
tsmithework?10:56
crimsunPeace Corps10:56
tsmithehmm. sounds fun?10:56
HobbseeEm3rald: haha.  you're writing it10:57
HobbseeEm3rald: then install python-gtk2-dev too10:57
Em3raldHobbsee:  I was afraiid you'd say that.  Oh, and I tried python-gtk2-dev, but I get further similar errors with "not going to be installed"10:58
Em3raldit is rather confusing to me.10:58
tsmitheshe's gone10:58
Em3raldcack10:58
Em3raldI just noticed.10:58
geserEm3rald: you need to go down to the real problem10:59
StevenKEm3rald: You just need to follow it down the chain. python-gnome2-desktop-dev won't be installed because python-gtk2-dev can't be installed, so you try and install why python-gtk2-dev can't be installed.10:59
geserpython-gtk2-dev should be installable without problems10:59
Em3raldOkay, I figured as much, but I am not entirely sure what the root of the problem is.  10:59
StevenKEm3rald: The root of the problem will be evident when apt/dpkg stops saying "will not be installed" and gives a real reason.11:00
tsmithecould someone possibly help me figure this out: why do i get this: dh_install: libresample-dev missing files (usr/include/*), aborting11:00
tsmitheif i get this: cp -f resample.h /tmp/buildd/libresample-0.1.3/debian/tmp/usr/include11:00
Em3raldhehe, okay, so just keep trying to install things one at a time down the chain then, eh?  Alright.  I'll keep you posted with anything interesting.  Thanks fer da help :D11:01
crimsunStevenK: I vaguely remember (via scrollback) that you ran into serpentine's "not enough space in tmp dir" issue; did you find a workaround?11:02
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Em3raldOkay folks, so I went back a whole bunch through the chain and came to this, and I dont know how to go further:  libfreetype6-dev:   Depends: libfreetype6 (=2.1.10-1ubuntu2.2) but 2.2.1-0ubuntu1 is to be installed11:05
crimsunmismatched/missing distribution components?11:06
Em3raldIt looks like I am downgrading something somehow.  Hmm ........... now I am thinking perhaps you might be right crimsun.  Hrrm.  11:07
crimsunapt-cache policy libfreetype611:07
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crimsunno, you didn't.11:09
Em3raldhmm11:09
crimsunedgy has the same version that feisty has, which is 2.2.1-511:09
crimsunyou have a third-party repository that is screwing you11:09
Em3raldOooh, that could be indeed.11:10
Em3raldPerhaps it's Seveas' repo.11:10
Seveas?11:10
crimsunthe apt-cache policy command will reveal more.11:10
Em3raldhehe, I just thought I would blame it on you since you are here.11:10
Em3raldcrimsun:  alright, what in particular am I looking for in this output?11:11
SeveasEm3rald, I don't have packages that are in ubuntu proper as well11:11
crimsunEm3rald: pastebin it11:11
Em3raldcrimsun, alright.11:11
Em3raldhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.com/84672911:13
crimsunright, you have some random libfreetype6 package. Forcibly remove it, then apt-get -f install11:13
Em3raldforcibly remove as in apt-get remove, correct?11:14
Em3raldYoy, I am thinking not.  LOL, it removes all kinds of other stuff that I highly doubt should be removed.11:15
crimsundpkg -P --force-Ddepends libfreetype611:16
crimsunwithout the random capitalised 'D'11:16
Em3raldah yes :D11:17
superm1crimsun, now good?11:18
Em3ralda scary thing is happening .... after the dpkg (which was fine), I did the install -f, but it's removing like everything ... {shudder}11:18
crimsunsuperm1: no11:19
superm1ook11:19
crimsunbusy w/ alsa support issues.11:19
superm1not a problem.  i'll stick around for a hour or so more, if you get a moment go ahead and ping me, elsewise i'll catch up with ya later today11:19
superm1or tomorrow11:20
tsmitheargh! stupid dh_install!!!11:20
Em3raldtsmithe:  is that to me?  and here's the pastebin of the proposed changes to my system:  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/84673211:21
tsmitheno - it's to dh_install!!! it's being silly with my package's files11:21
Em3raldah11:22
tsmitheEm3rald, hmm your system looks quite b0rked11:22
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Em3raldtsmithe:  which is strange becuase i haven't encountered any problems at all until this little compile problem occurred.11:22
tsmithe:(11:22
Em3raldBut I do in fact have quite a wacky array of wild and crazy repos and such, so it's not really a surprise.11:23
Em3raldI was || this close to doing a complete reinstall with my edgy CD, perhaps this is just my excuse to do that.11:23
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Em3raldwell, after a bit of muddling, I am apt-get installing ubuntu-desktop with the hopes that it can return some of my borked stuff to normal.11:25
Em3raldhehe, but before I even *think* of shutting down my system and/or rebooting for any reason, I am going to back all my critical stuff up to a separate HD, and burn a fresh copy of the Edgy installer CD.  Just in case. ROFL11:27
crimsunsuperm1: ping, url for source packages?11:43
superm1pong.... sure one sec let me grab it11:43
superm1crimsun, for mythtv - the bzr branch @ http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mythtv/mythtv/ubuntu and the new tarball is at http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/m/mythtv/mythtv_0.20-svn20061209.orig.tar.gz11:44
superm1crimsun, and after mythtv, mythplugins bzr branch @ http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mythtv/mythplugins/ubuntu and the new tarball is at http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/m/mythplugins/mythplugins_0.20-svn20061209.orig.tar.gz11:44
crimsunsuperm1: are these in response to https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2006-December/001100.html ?11:45
superm1no they weren't in response to that.  11:46
superm1i hadnt even seen that11:46
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superm1i've had these ready and i've been updating them for some time, but imbrandon hasnt had time to ack them11:46
superm1and look them over11:46
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superm1christian of debian multimedia has regularly been releasing updates, and i've been talking to him with some of the changes that i've been putting in too11:48
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crimsunsuperm1: I'll look at the branch in a few moments; how does "our" branch compare with upstream's fixes branch in svn?11:51
superm1well it lags by about 3 weeks right now.  the debian packaging is all that is in our bzr branch.  all the 0.20 & svn-fixes is sitting in christian's tarball11:52
crimsunok, as long as we have upstream's fixes branch integrated11:52
superm1yes11:52
crimsunenqueued, I'll check when I get to a coffee shop.11:52
superm1i considered jumping ahead of christian to keep up with upstream fixes branch, but i think its better to just let him grab the new fixes and follow that11:53
superm1okay11:53
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superm1crimsun, i'm gonna run over to the airport to pick someone up.  if i can't manage to get online with jdong's barnacle, then email me with any comments that you have, superm1@ubuntu.com12:00
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