[12:18] <bddebian> Later gang
[12:20] <kgoetz> if i build a package with dpkg-buildpackage, change something then rebuild, will it pick up the changes? or do i have to remove the directory, make the changes again, then build again?
[12:21] <shawarma> kgoetz: That depends on what you mean by "rebuild".
[12:21] <kgoetz> shawarma: re run dpkg-buildpackage
[12:23] <shawarma> kgoetz: it will run the clean target of you debian/rules and build again.
[12:23] <shawarma> kgoetz: So if the clean target does what it's supposed to, you should be fine.
[12:23] <kgoetz> shawarma: i'm modifying an existing package, so i'll hope its setup right. thanks :)
[12:46] <Storkme> is this the right place to ask about developing gnome panel applets?
[12:46] <crimsun> no.
[12:46] <Storkme> where is?
[12:46] <crimsun> irc.gnome.org
[12:46] <crimsun> or ircd, I don't remember which.
[12:46] <Storkme> ok,thanks
[02:11] <imbrandon> ello all
[02:14] <zul> hey imbrandon 
[02:15] <kgoetz> should i look on h.u.c or w.u.c for info on diff? (the bit in the packageing guide)
[02:16] <crimsun> are you generating or applying a diff?
[02:16] <kgoetz> generating
[02:16] <crimsun> then it's best to read diff(1)
[02:17] <kgoetz> cool. thanks
[02:17] <crimsun> np
[03:08] <imbrandon> hrm
[03:08] <imbrandon> is ajmitch arround ?
[03:09] <crimsun> idle     : 0 days 3 hours 48 mins 10 secs
[03:09] <imbrandon> drat
[03:09] <imbrandon> crimsun, you know anything about setting up a i386 pbuilder on amd64
[03:09] <imbrandon> err x86_64
[03:09] <imbrandon> i dont see any arch values
[03:09] <imbrandon> in pbuilderrc
[03:10] <crimsun> I changed the script directly when I did it
[03:10] <crimsun> not recommended, not the best way, etc.
[03:10] <imbrandon> i finaly got the new dualcore buildd made and installed etc
[03:10] <imbrandon> what script ?
[03:10] <crimsun> pbuilder
[03:11] <imbrandon> ahh
[03:11] <imbrandon> hrm 
[03:11] <shawarma> imbrandon: There's a howto on the wiki.
[03:11] <imbrandon> shawarma, i seen the ones for chroots but not pbuilder
[03:11] <imbrandon> i know its similar but not the same
[03:12] <shawarma> imbrandon: I'm quite sure it's there. Anyhow, it's a matter for passing "--debootstrapopts --arch --debootstrapopts i386" or something like that. 
[03:12] <shawarma> imbrandon: That's pretty much it. Maybe prepend the entire thing with "linux32" (install that package first).
[03:13] <imbrandon> cool, thanks for the tips
[03:13] <imbrandon> i'll look a little more
[03:13] <imbrandon> so realy after creat it will rember ?
[03:13] <shawarma> imbrandon: Yes.
[03:14] <imbrandon> rockon , ok that works then
[03:14] <shawarma> imbrandon: The architecture is compiled into dpkg, so on subsequent runs it will consider itself an i386 environment.
[03:15] <shawarma> imbrandon: ..and passing those debootstrapopts will make it install the correct dpkg. And yes, I *do* mean "--debootstrapopts --arch --debootstrapopts i386".
[03:15] <imbrandon> right i actualy ready that somewhere else
[03:15] <shawarma> imbrandon: It will become painfully obivous why if you try be clever about it. :-)
[03:15] <imbrandon> so it wasent totaly foreign
[03:16] <crimsun> it's thanks to pbuilder being a bit ... wily about tokenizing via whitespace
[03:17] <imbrandon> pbuilder-feisty-i386 create --debootstrapopts --arch --debootstrapopts i386
[03:17] <imbrandon> err
[03:17] <shawarma> crimsun: hm? Unless "wily" means reluctant I don't see what you mean.
[03:17] <shawarma> imbrandon: Move "create" to the end.
[03:18] <shawarma> imbrandon: For pbuilder order of the arguments matter.
[03:18] <crimsun> shawarma: it's sarcasm, so, yes.
[03:18] <imbrandon> shawarma, actualy i thoink you have it backwords
[03:19] <imbrandon> the action has to be first
[03:19] <imbrandon> like pbuilder login --save-after-login
[03:19] <imbrandon> :)
[03:19] <shawarma> crimsun: Oh... It's too late/early here for sarcasm in foreign languages.
[03:19] <shawarma> imbrandon: Ah.. Yes, you're right.
[03:19] <shawarma> imbrandon: What is pbuilder-feisty-i386 ?
[03:19] <imbrandon> a pbuilder-distrobution.sh variant
[03:20] <shawarma> imbrandon: Oh, ok. I don't use those. I've rolled my own. :-)
[03:20] <shawarma> Nevertheless, I'm off to bed. It's hella late here.
[03:20] <shawarma> G'night, guys!
[03:20] <imbrandon> i've actualy done all this before with multi pbuilders set up for the users, i'm just trying to mix amd64 and i386 into the mix too this time
[03:21] <imbrandon> gnight
[03:21] <imbrandon> thanks
[03:21] <shawarma> any time.
[03:21] <crimsun> 'night
[03:29] <imbrandon> hrm
[03:30] <imbrandon> where is hobbsee when you need her
[03:30] <imbrandon> heh
[03:32] <imbrandon> crimsun, got a sec ( or the access ) to tar up a stock /var/cache/pbuilder directory ?
[03:32] <crimsun> I don't, sorry, but you can pull it from the vmware machine, probably?
[03:33] <imbrandon> ahhh true , i forgot about that
[03:33] <imbrandon> thanks
[03:38] <bddebian> Heya gang
[03:39] <kgoetz> hey :)
[03:39] <imbrandon> heya bddebian and kgoetz 
[03:39] <bddebian> Heya kgoetz, imbrandon
[03:39] <kgoetz> hi imbrandon 
[03:45] <imbrandon> crimsun, is there a known issue with flashplugin on edgy ?
[03:45] <imbrandon> i have the package installed but dosent show up in ff
[03:45] <crimsun> there are many, many issues.
[03:45] <imbrandon> what dir is the actual so supose to be in, maybe the link dident make it
[03:45] <imbrandon> err it dident make the link
[03:45] <crimsun> are you using edgy's or edgy-backports's?
[03:46] <imbrandon> plain edgy, i dont care for backports as a whole
[03:46] <imbrandon> i can cherry pick that one package if its worth it though
[03:46] <crimsun> you probably need to update-flashplugin or whatever
[03:46] <imbrandon> k
[03:47] <crimsun> for -backports, you'd need to dpkg-reconfigure flashplugin-nonfree
[03:47] <crimsun> mdke ran into the latter
[03:47] <bddebian> Heya crimsun
[03:47] <crimsun> hi bddebian 
[03:47] <imbrandon> kk
[04:15] <kgoetz> do i use dpkg-buildpackage to use dsc's to extract source packages?
[04:17] <bddebian> dpkg-source -x
[04:18] <kgoetz> thanks bddebian 
[04:18] <bddebian> NP
[04:18] <kgoetz> ty
[05:22] <imbrandon> apt-get build-dep firefox
[05:22] <imbrandon> err
[05:23] <kgoetz> :)
[05:23] <kgoetz> you too? :)
[05:24] <imbrandon> me too ?
[05:24] <ajmitch> the rest of us still have some measure of sanity
[05:24] <kgoetz> < imbrandon> apt-get build-dep firefox
[05:24] <imbrandon> if you mean building ff yea, i'm trying to apply the 2.0.0.1 update
[05:25] <imbrandon> we'll see how successfull i am
[05:25] <imbrandon> heh
[05:25] <kgoetz> hheh
[05:25] <imbrandon> heya ajmitch 
[05:25] <ajmitch> hello
[05:26] <imbrandon> hehe
[05:26] <Burgundavia> ajmitch: maybe it is one of those days, I am exhausted as well
[05:27] <ajmitch> maybe it's because I spent the last 5 hours walking up one of the local hills
[05:27] <imbrandon> heya Burgundavia 
[05:29] <ajmitch> kgoetz probably remembers what the hills round dunedin are like
[05:29] <bddebian> "The hills are alive..."
[05:29] <kgoetz> ajmitch: yes, i walked a few :)
[05:30] <bddebian> heh
[05:30] <jdong> imbrandon: speaking from experience applying patches to Ubuntu firefox is almost always doomed to failure :)
[05:30] <jdong> you'd have better luck putting reiser4 into a grsec Xen kernel
[05:30] <jdong> it does build from feisty cleanly though
[05:32] <kgoetz> i'm only building FF and it takes a fwe hours. i dread to think about building openoffice
[05:36] <imbrandon> jdong, i know, i've built ff quite a few times ( in and out of ubutnu )
[05:36] <imbrandon> :)
[05:36] <jdong> :)
[05:36] <jdong> showoff :)
[05:36] <imbrandon> i've probably built ff more than the packages i "look after"
[05:36] <imbrandon> as far as {k}ubuntu
[05:36] <kgoetz> lol
[05:37] <imbrandon> its normaly one of those thing you tripple check you changes, set the build and goto bed
[05:37] <imbrandon> :)
[05:53] <imbrandon> hrm what package is filterdiff part of ? dosent seem to be installed by default
[05:53] <imbrandon> i hate reloading a build box
[05:53] <imbrandon> i need to make a mata package with all the cruft i use in it
[05:53] <kgoetz> need to save your package lists
[05:54] <imbrandon> heh yea
[05:54] <imbrandon> but i seldom reload, mostly only when i change major hardware
[05:54] <imbrandon> atleaste the build boxes
[05:54] <imbrandon> my lappy i reload once a week it seems lol
[05:55] <kgoetz> lol
[05:55] <imbrandon> ahh patchutils
[05:55] <imbrandon> there we go
[06:00] <imbrandon> ugh crimsun still arround ?
[06:00] <kgoetz> watching the PID column in top go up. 1 build of firefox sparks a gazillion processes. its obscene
[06:01] <imbrandon> kgoetz, hehe something to give my 4 cores a workout :)
[06:01] <kgoetz> :o
[06:01] <imbrandon> hum it seems "filterdiff -x '*CVS*' temp.diff > newtemp.diff"
[06:01] <imbrandon> only sorta doies what i want
[06:01] <imbrandon> does
[06:02] <kgoetz> unfortunately, its not even thrashin this computer. *shrugs* as to why
[06:02] <imbrandon> that filters all the CVS chunks out except the "diff -ruN *" lines for them
[06:02] <imbrandon> :(
[06:02] <imbrandon> i guess i need to read the man a bit more
[06:03] <kgoetz> ruN... thats what i was after before. 
[06:04] <imbrandon> hum
[06:16] <imbrandon> ugh
[06:18] <joejaxx> what is wrong imbrandon ? :(
[06:21] <imbrandon> joejaxx, CVS cruft
[06:22] <imbrandon> brandon@hood:~/devel/mozilla$ filterdiff -x '*/CVS/*' temp.diff |grep -v '^diff.*CVS' |wc -c
[06:22] <imbrandon> 2264561
[06:22] <imbrandon> :)
[06:22] <joejaxx> imbrandon: LOL
[06:22] <imbrandon> anyhow got it fixed up now
[06:22] <joejaxx> that is good
[07:16] <imbrandon> crimsun, flashplugin from backports works fine, thanks
[07:16] <crimsun> np.
[07:53] <mohammad> siretart: Hello
[07:54] <crimsun> mohammad: it's quite early in the morning for him.
[07:55] <imbrandon> night all
[07:56] <crimsun> 'night
[07:56] <mohammad> crimsun: Hello, I have uploaded to http://revu.tauware.de/index.py but I cannot login
[07:59] <mohammad> crimsun: I am newbie to revu. Do you know what should I do to get my password?
[07:59] <crimsun> mohammad: have you followed the directions in the topic?
[08:00] <imbrandon> http://revu.tauware.de/lostpw.py?email=your@email.tld
[08:00] <mohammad> crimsun: Yes. right now my package is listed there.
[08:01] <crimsun> mohammad: have you tried recovering your passwd as imbrandon suggests?
[08:03] <mohammad> crimsun: Yes. with mderakhs@math... I singed the package. But in changelog my email is derakhshani+zekr@gmail
[08:04] <mohammad> crimsun: Using mderakhs@math I get a message whose its decryption is "None"
[08:05] <mohammad> crimsun: Using derakhshani+zekr@gmail I do not get any encrypted password at all
[08:05] <mohammad> crimsun: Do you have any suggestion?
[08:10] <crimsun> mohammad: use the matching e-mail
[08:11] <mohammad> crimsun: So you mean I should compile my package again?
[08:12] <imbrandon> change the mail in the changelog and debuild -S -sa , then reupload , yes
[08:12] <mohammad> Ok, thank you 
[08:12] <crimsun> yay, my Hobbsee-summoning wand works
[08:12] <imbrandon> hehe
[08:13] <imbrandon> heya Hobbsee 
[08:14] <Hobbsee> crimsun: hehe!  heya
[08:14] <Hobbsee> woulda been on here earlier, except my POS internet connection....
[08:14] <Hobbsee> hey imbrandon 
[08:14] <crimsun> heya :)
[08:14] <Hobbsee> crimsun: what was i being summoned for?
[08:14] <Hobbsee> ah :)
[08:14] <crimsun> (I think imbrandon needed something)
[08:15] <imbrandon> yea i had your login ready for build.imbrandon.com
[08:15] <imbrandon> got a sec Hobbsee ?
[08:16] <elkbuntu> try her now, imbrandon
[08:16] <imbrandon> 01:15 < imbrandon> yea i had your login ready for build.imbrandon.com                                                                                                    Lathiat
[08:17] <imbrandon> 01:15 < imbrandon> got a sec Hobbsee ?         
[08:17] <imbrandon> gah
[08:17] <imbrandon> sorry Lathiat 
[08:17] <Hobbsee_> argh.
[08:17] <Hobbsee_> imbrandon: woot :)
[08:18] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: yeah, i have a sec, if my connection holds
[08:18] <Hobbsee> hehe
[08:19] <Hobbsee> you got the imitation one that the redneck made, elky....
[08:19] <imbrandon> Hobbsee, ssh -p5022 hobbsee@build.imbrandon.com
[08:19] <crimsun> poor redneck^Wbrandon.
[08:19] <imbrandon> hahaha
[08:19] <Hobbsee> haha
[08:19] <elkbuntu> rofl
[08:20] <Hobbsee> ooh, passphrase for ssh keys now :)
[08:20] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: got it :)
[08:20] <imbrandon> yea ssh keys == good
[08:20] <Hobbsee> indeed
[08:21] <imbrandon> ok i need to finish up the pbuilders
[08:21] <imbrandon> but thats the login info
[08:21] <imbrandon> its a x86_64 dual core 3ghz intel pentium d , 1 gig ram
[08:21] <imbrandon> JUST for building
[08:21] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: nice :)
[08:22] <imbrandon> 50GB space on /storage iirc
[08:22] <imbrandon> so should be plenty
[08:22] <Hobbsee> nice :)
[08:22] <Hobbsee> yeah
[08:22] <imbrandon> i'm in the middle of setting up pbuilders for dapper/edgy/feisty/sid both amd64 and i386 for all
[08:22] <imbrandon> so should be able to build justa bout anything
[08:23] <Hobbsee> :)
[08:23] <imbrandon> btw do you still have a tar with the base dirs we were using minus the base.tar.gz ?
[08:23] <imbrandon> i looked everywhere , i dident seem to back it up so i'm having to make it all over
[08:24] <imbrandon> i have all the pbuilder-* scripts 
[08:24] <imbrandon> just not the /var/cache/pbuilder/* struc
[08:25] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: i dont think so.
[08:25] <imbrandon> hum ok
[08:25] <Hobbsee> hang on, how does that work?
[08:25] <imbrandon> does what work ?
[08:25] <Hobbsee> a tar with base dirs, without the .tar.gz?
[08:25] <Hobbsee> isnt the .tar.gz the tar with base dirs?
[08:26] <imbrandon> err not the base.tar.gz its self
[08:26] <imbrandon> the one with the apt.conf and aptcache and results and pbuilderrc
[08:26] <imbrandon> e.g. /var/cache/pbuilder/feisty/* on my old build box
[08:26] <imbrandon> but no base.tar.gz
[08:26] <Hobbsee> ah right
[08:27] <Hobbsee> oh, do i still have that....
[08:27] <imbrandon> we had a tarbal of that somewhere i thought on buntudot iirc, but maybe not
[08:27] <Hobbsee> you kinda need the base.tar.gz for that anyway
[08:27] <Hobbsee> yeah, i had my config files and all that on there originally
[08:27] <imbrandon> yea but i can pbuilder create and make a new base
[08:27] <Hobbsee> yeah
[08:27] <imbrandon> the other stuff is the pita to config
[08:27] <Hobbsee> nah, havent for a long tiem
[08:27] <Hobbsee> indeed
[08:28] <imbrandon> hum ok, so its no longer ?
[08:29] <Hobbsee> nah, i dont think so
[08:29] <Hobbsee> s/s/d
[08:29] <imbrandon> also i have my fast mirror publicly avail too now ( only for {edgy,feisty} and {x86,amd64,source} )
[08:30] <imbrandon> but with -backports -security etc etc etc
[08:30] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: i can copy it onto buntudot, or just pastebin my pbuilderrc
[08:30] <Hobbsee> nice :)
[08:31] <imbrandon> deb{,-src} http://mirror.imbrandon.com/ubuntu edgy{,-backports,-security,-updates} main restricted universe multiverse
[08:31] <imbrandon> ^^ if anyone wants to use it
[08:31] <Hobbsee> nice :)
[08:31] <ajmitch> imbrandon: how often is it updated?
[08:31] <imbrandon> hourly
[08:32] <imbrandon> its on a hourly cron for both edgy and feisty
[08:32] <ajmitch> useful
[08:32] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: uploading
[08:32] <imbrandon> i might add dapper to it sometime
[08:32] <Hobbsee> bah, what's the point?
[08:33] <imbrandon> and sid / etch maybe
[08:33] <imbrandon> just because 
[08:33] <imbrandon> :)
[08:34] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: uploaded to /home/sarah on your build machine
[08:34] <imbrandon> kk
[08:34] <imbrandon> cool
[08:34] <Hobbsee> :)
[08:34] <imbrandon> err /home/hobbsee ?
[08:35] <Hobbsee> yeah
[08:35] <imbrandon> :)
[10:38] <ajmitch> great, almost all packed
[10:38] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: yay! 
[10:38] <ajmitch> then I can leave for 10 days!
[10:40] <ajmitch> and there was much rejoicing in #ubuntu-motu
[10:46] <elkbuntu> ajmitch, no, that happens once you're gone
[10:48] <ajmitch> I didn't think you'd be able to hold it back that long
[10:54] <elkbuntu> ajmitch, well... considering people here probably wont notice until you're gone...
[10:56] <gnomefreak> i take it most of the devs are on holiday?
[10:57] <elkbuntu> i believe so
[10:57] <elkbuntu> some we may not see until the new year
[10:57] <gnomefreak> i figured as much :(
[10:58] <elkbuntu> i wasnt really around for this period last year.. i was still a total newb back then :
[10:59] <StevenK> elkbuntu: You may well get a mail from my wife and me tonight.
[10:59] <kgoetz> elkbuntu: it went quiet, just like now
[10:59] <elkbuntu> haha... the year has only wiped away the 'total' part, i know
[10:59] <elkbuntu> StevenK, hmm?
[11:00] <elkbuntu> kgoetz, tbh, i cant say im surprised
[11:00] <StevenK> elkbuntu: Your blog, you dork. :-P
[11:00] <elkbuntu> aaaah
[11:00] <elkbuntu> schweet!
[11:01] <elkbuntu> there was two in the inbox this morning, thanks to the post last night
[11:01] <StevenK> Nice!
[11:01] <StevenK> Who from?
[11:03] <elkbuntu> StevenK, PM
[11:03] <StevenK> ajmitch: Then you can get them to join in!
[11:03] <kgoetz> can i ask an on topic question?
[11:03] <StevenK> kgoetz: No.
[11:03] <kgoetz> :(
[11:03] <elkbuntu> ajmitch, wake them up tomorrow morning :
[11:03] <StevenK> On topic questions are off topic
[11:04] <elkbuntu> they keep meaning to rename the channel to #ubuntu-devel-offtopic
[11:04] <elkbuntu> just nobody's got round to it :
[11:05] <elkbuntu> what did you want to ask, kgoetz?
[11:05] <kgoetz> how can i generate a .dsc from a changed source directory?
[11:05] <ajmitch> debuild -S 
[11:06] <StevenK> Or dpkg-source -b
[11:06] <ajmitch> maybe with -sa if you need to upload the orig.tar.gz
[11:06] <kgoetz> in the dir with the /debian/ directory, or the one above?
[11:06] <ajmitch> or mash the keyboard & see what happens
[11:06] <StevenK> kgoetz: For ajmitch's answer, in the one above, and for mine, the one above that.
[11:08] <kgoetz> ajmitch: 's thing builds doesnt it?
[11:08] <kgoetz> or do i have to build to get the new dsc?
[11:10] <ajmitch> we can tell you to RTFM? excellent :)
[11:10] <ajmitch> -S doesn't build a binary package
[11:10] <ajmitch> it just runs the clean target, puts together a source package
[11:10] <kgoetz> i ask asuming i need to build a dsc to debdiff
[11:11] <ajmitch> yep
[11:15] <ajmitch> you'll be tested on it later
[11:16] <kgoetz> lucky your going away... it'll give me a chance to write down the answers :)
[11:17] <ajmitch> laserjock will welcome contributors to the guide :)
[11:19] <kgoetz> does the debuild -S overwrite the dsc thats already in teh directory?
[11:33] <StevenK> kgoetz: https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/288796
[11:35] <kgoetz> :o
[11:35] <kgoetz> only 5 hours?
[11:35] <StevenK> Heh
[11:35] <StevenK> The powerpc build is 7 and a half hours
[11:35] <tsmithe> urgh that's longer than when i had gentoo
[11:36] <kgoetz> 5 hours for one arch? :S
[11:36] <StevenK> Ooooh.
[11:36] <tsmithe> yeah - that can't be right
[11:36] <StevenK> The sparc build is 11 hours
[11:36] <ajmitch> night all
[11:37] <ajmitch> might see you tomorrow, if not, have a good week :)
[11:37] <StevenK> ajmitch: Night! Enjoy your holiday away from us psychos.
[11:37] <kgoetz> later :)
[11:38] <elkbuntu> cya ajmitch
[11:38] <kgoetz> how sane an option is croscompiling?
[11:38] <StevenK> Not very.
[11:39] <kgoetz> oh well.
[11:39] <StevenK> Doing it may well show up a myriad of compiler bugs that *will* send you insane debugging.
[11:39] <kgoetz> i dont think i'm going to do that then... i have enough trouble getting stuff building
[11:39] <kgoetz> and i'm not really making changes
[11:46] <StevenK> He may well see the U-word and go for the throat.
[11:46] <kgoetz> true...
[11:58] <kgoetz> if you run pbuilder update will it update all your base.gz's or just one?
[11:58] <StevenK> pbuilder update will only update base.tgz
[11:59] <kgoetz> so only the default
[12:10] <kgoetz> are all changes are done diff.gz? debian and ubuntu?
[12:16] <Fujitsu> They can't be done anywhere else, so yes.
[12:17] <kgoetz> ty
[12:18] <Fujitsu> np
[12:49] <tsmithe> hmm ... so how do i package a library?
[12:50] <Hobbsee> tsmithe: seen the debian library packaging guide?
[12:50] <tsmithe> nope
[12:50] <Hobbsee> :)
[12:51] <tsmithe> danke
[12:51] <Hobbsee> :0
[12:51] <Hobbsee> * :)
[02:00] <kgoetz> can i turn the .diff.gz into a bunch of different diffs, or does it have to be monolithic?
[02:03] <fdoving> has to be one.
[02:03] <kgoetz> aw.
[02:03] <fdoving> however the contents of the .diff might be other diffs.
[02:04] <kgoetz> would i be able to just cut out difs from the main one?
[02:05] <fdoving> well, that's doable.
[02:05] <kgoetz> heh. yes. 'just' cut out ;)
[02:06] <fdoving> in a perferct world the .diff.gz will be the complete debian/ dir.
[02:07] <fdoving> it should be possible to 'fake' you've got the upstream source, and just extract the files from the diff,somehow.
[02:07] <fdoving> I haven't tried that though.
[02:09] <geser> if the diff.gz contains only files in debian/ the right value for -p should do the trick
[02:12] <fdoving> yeah, patch -p1 will do that for you.
[02:13] <fdoving> you can also skip the pices for files which is not inside debian/
[04:53] <tsmithe> hi i have two packages on revu which are for ubuntustudio, and _MMA_ (you there) would like revu'ing as soon as possible. is there anyone free to do this?
[04:54] <tsmithe> alsa-tools needs revu'age, please: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3892
[04:55] <tsmithe> alsa-firmware, the other, is just being fixed
[04:57] <tsmithe> where's bddebian when you need him
[05:26] <bddebian> Heya gang
[05:28] <fernando> bddebian: hey
[05:28] <bddebian> Heya fernando
[05:35] <Lutin___> heya Toadstool
[05:39] <Toadstool> hey LUtin_ 
[05:39] <Toadstool> hi everybody
[05:40] <bddebian> Heya Toadstool
[05:42] <Toadstool> hey bddebian 
[05:42] <Toadstool> how is it going?
[05:42] <bddebian> Fair to midland, thanks.  You?
[05:42] <Toadstool> great!
[05:43] <Toadstool> well, I'd be better if i weren't at work :p
[05:43] <bddebian> Heh, I hear that
[05:48] <gpocentek> hello Toadstool, hello bddebian 
[05:49] <Toadstool> hey gpocentek !
[05:49] <Toadstool> long time no see :)
[05:49] <Toadstool> how are you?
[05:49] <bddebian> Heya gpocentek
[05:49] <gpocentek> Toadstool: fine :)
[05:51] <gpocentek> Toadstool: you seem to have become a very busy man ;)
[05:51] <Toadstool> yeah :/
[05:52] <Toadstool> too much work during the day and so many things to do after :)
[05:52] <gpocentek> hehe
[05:54] <tsmithe> ah bddebian; i need to ask you about your revu on alsa-firmware - http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3895
[05:54] <tsmithe> i have taken care of the first point, but don't understand the second two
[05:59] <bddebian> tsmithe: I don't know much about the staticly linked error unfortunately :-(
[06:00] <bddebian> The license.txt you can just remove from debian/docs or wherever you are installing it from
[06:00] <tsmithe> i didn't know i was installing it ...
[06:00] <tsmithe> and where are you getting the statically linked error?
[06:06] <bddebian> Running linda on the .deb
[06:08] <tsmithe> ok
[06:08] <tsmithe> but does it matter?
[06:15] <bddebian> tsmithe: Of course
[06:15] <tsmithe> why?
[06:15] <bddebian> Because it's an error
[06:16] <tsmithe> but what does it mean?!
[06:16] <shawarma> well... Since it's firmware, I wouldn't worry about it.
[06:16] <tsmithe> there's nothing i can do about it
[06:16] <shawarma> At least, that's what the path suggests it it?
[06:16] <tsmithe> yes
[06:16] <bddebian> ??
[06:16] <tsmithe> what?
[06:16] <shawarma> bddebian: The path for the file is /lib/firmware/lalalalala
[06:17] <shawarma> bddebian: ...so I'm guessing it's firmware. 
[06:17] <tsmithe> it is firmware 
[06:17] <tsmithe> it's the alsa-firmware package!
[06:17] <tsmithe> (but patched to move all the files to /lib/firmware where they belong)
[06:17] <shawarma> bddebian: And apparantly it adheres to the ELF standard, and hence linda tries to see if it's statically linked, which it is.
[06:18] <shawarma> bddebian: No biggie, IMO.
[06:18] <tsmithe> yes
[06:18] <tsmithe> shawarma, can you advocate it? :)
[06:18] <bddebian> shawarma: So advocate it :)
[06:18] <tsmithe> bddebian, ?
[06:18] <shawarma> Heh... I haven't looked the entire package over.
[06:18] <tsmithe> ok
[06:18] <tsmithe> well, please do
[06:19] <shawarma> Uh, gotta run and find my power supply for my laptop before it runs out.
[06:45] <bddebian> Where can we get Herd 1 isos?
[06:45] <tsmithe> cdimage.ubuntu.com
[06:45] <tsmithe> or no?
[06:46] <tsmithe> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/herd-1/
[06:46] <tsmithe> ^ for your convenience
[06:46] <bddebian> That'll do, thanks tsmithe
[06:47] <tsmithe> :)
[06:52] <zul> lol http://www.attrition.org/postal/z/033/0871.html
[07:04] <bddebian> WTF? :)
[07:12] <fernando> zul: crazy people
[07:15] <tsmithe> that is hilarious
[07:17] <nixternal> whats even funnier is we was a congressional aide :)
[07:17] <nixternal> and got fired over the whole ordeal
[07:18] <bddebian> Only because he was dumb enough to get caught?  If he would have been better, he would have made a perfect congressman! ;-P
[07:19] <nixternal> haha
[07:19] <nixternal> very true
[07:43] <imbrandon> hrm who is joey stanford ?
[07:43] <imbrandon> on irc
[07:44] <ajmitch> I don't recall seeing him on irc much
[07:47] <imbrandon> hrm ok
[07:48] <imbrandon> i hate it when people file erroronious bugs and then blog about how it sucks
[07:49] <ajmitch> you plan to flame him by email or public shaming on planet instead?
[07:49] <imbrandon> both :)
[07:49] <imbrandon> email already sent ( alot nastier than i will put on plant ) but i will on planet also
[07:50] <imbrandon> brb smoke break
[07:51] <bddebian> Great idea
[07:51] <ajmitch> unprofessional
[07:52] <ajmitch> he wasn't nasty in his planet post, so public flaming & shaming on planet won't be good
[07:53] <imbrandon> no i'm just leaving him a comment telling him 
[07:53] <imbrandon> what the problems were / are
[07:53] <zorglu_> flaming shaming is not very coc either :)
[07:54] <tsmithe> :P
[07:54] <imbrandon> basicly it boils down to libmtp only made it into main in feisty and amarok wasent compiled with it in edgy] 
[07:54] <ajmitch> yeah, I saw the comment on the kde bug
[07:55] <imbrandon> ;)
[07:55] <ajmitch> & I can just dump .ogg files onto it & it happily plays them
[07:55] <imbrandon> ;)
[08:56] <Adri2000> Seveas: do you think that the CC can happen next week or no hope?
[08:56] <Seveas> Adri2000, no response yet from 3 out of 4 cc members :(
[08:56] <Adri2000> :(
[09:43] <superm1> crimsun, ping
[09:53] <crimsun> superm1: pong
[09:53] <bddebian> OK damnit, why can't I get this Compaq Proliant to boot Feisty's kernel?  I could do it in Edgy with noapic nolapic acpi=off pci=noacpi
[09:53] <superm1> hi crimsun.  i wanted to follow up a bit about ivtv-firmware.  archive admins haven't acked it, so I was wondering if I should follow up, or if its better to just wait?
[09:54] <crimsun> superm1: it's the holidays; nothing's being processed. I'd wait until infinity returns from vacation (7 Jan?) before poking.
[09:55] <superm1> ah thats what i was assuming
[09:55] <superm1> wasn't sure though
[09:57] <siretart> hey folks
[09:57] <bddebian> Heya siretart
[09:57] <siretart> huhu bddebian 
[10:00] <tsmithe> should pbuilder be always able to build with fakeroot? is there a way to make it build with root privileges?
[10:01] <tsmithe> cos i get this: "ldconfig: Can't create temporary cache file /etc/ld.so.cache~: Permission denied"
[10:01] <tsmithe> with my library package
[10:08] <tsmithe> any way to stop it?
[10:08] <siretart> tsmithe: does ldconfig run as root?
[10:09] <tsmithe> well, it's in the pbuilder, but outside it does
[10:11] <geser> tsmithe: from which target are you running ldconfig?
[10:11] <superm1> ping keescook 
[10:11] <geser> target in debian/rules
[10:12] <crimsun> Hobbsee: is there a signup for the new u-u-s list?
[10:12] <tsmithe> build
[10:12] <Hobbsee> superm1: likely on holidays
[10:12] <Hobbsee> crimsun: as in, for the mailing list?
[10:12] <crimsun> Hobbsee: correct
[10:12] <superm1> Hobbsee, ah wasn't sure.  saw him sitting just in -motu
[10:12] <superm1> without being away
[10:12] <geser> tsmithe: "The build target must not do anything that might require root privilege." from http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-source.html
[10:12] <Hobbsee> or kubuntu.uusATairpost.net?
[10:12] <tsmithe> geser, ok
[10:12] <tsmithe> thanks
[10:12] <Hobbsee> crimsun: that's another of my addresses - points to the same place.
[10:13] <Hobbsee> well, kubuntu.sponsors
[10:13] <crimsun> Hobbsee: hmm, ok. perhaps we should address that now (no pun intended).
[10:13] <crimsun> siretart: would it be possible to create a ubuntu-universe-sponsors list on tauware?
[10:13] <tsmithe> geser, sorry - it's install
[10:13] <tsmithe> can install do it?
[10:13] <Hobbsee> crimsun: iv'e emailed the canonical admin person address thing that i got given, but no reply as yet - holidays
[10:14] <crimsun> Hobbsee: ah, ok.
[10:15] <tsmithe> it doesn't say it can't
[10:15] <geser> tsmithe: it should be possible from the install target
[10:16] <tsmithe> sooo... why does pbuilder die?
[10:18] <geser> why are you running ldconfig during build?
[10:18] <geser> or install?
[10:21] <tsmithe> install
[10:21] <tsmithe> to set up the library
[10:21] <tsmithe> i thought it was necessary
[10:22] <geser> yes, but this change can't be "packaged"
[10:22] <tsmithe> oh of course
[10:23] <tsmithe> yes
[10:23] <geser> grep ldconfig /var/lib/dpkg/info/*
[10:23] <tsmithe> i'll run it in postinst
[10:34] <Sp4rKy> hi
[10:35] <Sp4rKy> siretart: around ?
[10:35] <siretart> jepp 
[10:37] <Sp4rKy> siretart: i get a strange error with revu
[10:37] <Sp4rKy> interdiff: fork failed: Resource temporarily unavailable
[10:38] <Sp4rKy> interdiff doesn't seems to work
[10:38] <Sp4rKy> and i don't know why
[10:38] <siretart> uh?
[10:38] <siretart> do you have ressource quotas in /etc/security/limits.conf?
[10:38] <StevenK> Is tiber running out of processes?
[10:39] <Sp4rKy> it's not on tiber, but on my revu ^^
[10:39] <StevenK> Ah
[10:39] <StevenK> Is the machine running out of processes? :-)
[10:39] <Sp4rKy> siretart: and i've nothing on limits.conf
[10:40] <Sp4rKy> StevenK: nop
[10:40] <siretart> well, if fork fails, it looks like that.. 
[10:40] <Sp4rKy> strange
[10:43] <bddebian> Stupid ass Compaq server
[10:43] <Sp4rKy> :p
[10:44] <tsmithe> why do i get this: dh_install: libresample-dev missing files (usr/include/*), aborting
[10:44] <tsmithe> if i get this: cp -f resample.h /tmp/buildd/libresample-0.1.3/debian/tmp/usr/include
[10:45] <superm1> crimsun, would you be able to look over a new upstream version i have packaged for mythtv since imbrandon hasn't been around?
[10:49] <crimsun> superm1: in ~20 mins, yes; please ping me then.
[10:49] <superm1> okay will do
[10:49] <tsmithe> hmm alsa-* still needs revu'age...
[10:52] <crimsun> alsa* is very low on my list atm. I have several hundred bugs to triage & coordinate w/ upstream.
[10:52] <crimsun> you, too, can lose your mind if you wish to join in!
[10:52] <crimsun> I welcome volunteers!
[10:52] <Hobbsee> haha
[10:53] <Hobbsee> they'll run away!
[10:53] <crimsun> rather, they stay away, but correct nonetheless
[10:53] <tsmithe> yeah - sounds like a pain
[10:53] <Em3rald> Heya Hobbsee, hows that love-wiki going?  hehe ;)
[10:54] <Em3rald> Anyhow, I was instructed to come here and seek a little help with a small compiling error that I cannot muddle through.
[10:55] <Em3rald> checking for PYGTK... no    and then I get     configure: error: You need pygtk >=2.4 and the appropriate development headers to proceed
[10:55] <crimsun> tsmithe: I'd rather not be doing this by myself, since in about 9 months my involvement will be curtailed drastically.
[10:56] <Em3rald> Now, if I use synaptic to try to install python-gnome2-desktop-dev:
[10:56] <Em3rald>  Depends: python-gtk2-dev but it is not going to be installed
[10:56] <tsmithe> crimsun, oh dear: why is that?
[10:56] <crimsun> tsmithe: I'm headed to west Africa
[10:56] <tsmithe> how come?
[10:56] <tsmithe> work?
[10:56] <crimsun> Peace Corps
[10:56] <tsmithe> hmm. sounds fun?
[10:57] <Hobbsee> Em3rald: haha.  you're writing it
[10:57] <Hobbsee> Em3rald: then install python-gtk2-dev too
[10:58] <Em3rald> Hobbsee:  I was afraiid you'd say that.  Oh, and I tried python-gtk2-dev, but I get further similar errors with "not going to be installed"
[10:58] <Em3rald> it is rather confusing to me.
[10:58] <tsmithe> she's gone
[10:58] <Em3rald> cack
[10:58] <Em3rald> I just noticed.
[10:59] <geser> Em3rald: you need to go down to the real problem
[10:59] <StevenK> Em3rald: You just need to follow it down the chain. python-gnome2-desktop-dev won't be installed because python-gtk2-dev can't be installed, so you try and install why python-gtk2-dev can't be installed.
[10:59] <geser> python-gtk2-dev should be installable without problems
[10:59] <Em3rald> Okay, I figured as much, but I am not entirely sure what the root of the problem is.  
[11:00] <StevenK> Em3rald: The root of the problem will be evident when apt/dpkg stops saying "will not be installed" and gives a real reason.
[11:00] <tsmithe> could someone possibly help me figure this out: why do i get this: dh_install: libresample-dev missing files (usr/include/*), aborting
[11:00] <tsmithe> if i get this: cp -f resample.h /tmp/buildd/libresample-0.1.3/debian/tmp/usr/include
[11:01] <Em3rald> hehe, okay, so just keep trying to install things one at a time down the chain then, eh?  Alright.  I'll keep you posted with anything interesting.  Thanks fer da help :D
[11:02] <crimsun> StevenK: I vaguely remember (via scrollback) that you ran into serpentine's "not enough space in tmp dir" issue; did you find a workaround?
[11:05] <Em3rald> Okay folks, so I went back a whole bunch through the chain and came to this, and I dont know how to go further:  libfreetype6-dev:   Depends: libfreetype6 (=2.1.10-1ubuntu2.2) but 2.2.1-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[11:06] <crimsun> mismatched/missing distribution components?
[11:07] <Em3rald> It looks like I am downgrading something somehow.  Hmm ........... now I am thinking perhaps you might be right crimsun.  Hrrm.  
[11:07] <crimsun> apt-cache policy libfreetype6
[11:09] <crimsun> no, you didn't.
[11:09] <Em3rald> hmm
[11:09] <crimsun> edgy has the same version that feisty has, which is 2.2.1-5
[11:09] <crimsun> you have a third-party repository that is screwing you
[11:10] <Em3rald> Oooh, that could be indeed.
[11:10] <Em3rald> Perhaps it's Seveas' repo.
[11:10] <Seveas> ?
[11:10] <crimsun> the apt-cache policy command will reveal more.
[11:10] <Em3rald> hehe, I just thought I would blame it on you since you are here.
[11:11] <Em3rald> crimsun:  alright, what in particular am I looking for in this output?
[11:11] <Seveas> Em3rald, I don't have packages that are in ubuntu proper as well
[11:11] <crimsun> Em3rald: pastebin it
[11:11] <Em3rald> crimsun, alright.
[11:13] <Em3rald> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/846729
[11:13] <crimsun> right, you have some random libfreetype6 package. Forcibly remove it, then apt-get -f install
[11:14] <Em3rald> forcibly remove as in apt-get remove, correct?
[11:15] <Em3rald> Yoy, I am thinking not.  LOL, it removes all kinds of other stuff that I highly doubt should be removed.
[11:16] <crimsun> dpkg -P --force-Ddepends libfreetype6
[11:16] <crimsun> without the random capitalised 'D'
[11:17] <Em3rald> ah yes :D
[11:18] <superm1> crimsun, now good?
[11:18] <Em3rald> a scary thing is happening .... after the dpkg (which was fine), I did the install -f, but it's removing like everything ... {shudder}
[11:19] <crimsun> superm1: no
[11:19] <superm1> ook
[11:19] <crimsun> busy w/ alsa support issues.
[11:19] <superm1> not a problem.  i'll stick around for a hour or so more, if you get a moment go ahead and ping me, elsewise i'll catch up with ya later today
[11:20] <superm1> or tomorrow
[11:20] <tsmithe> argh! stupid dh_install!!!
[11:21] <Em3rald> tsmithe:  is that to me?  and here's the pastebin of the proposed changes to my system:  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/846732
[11:21] <tsmithe> no - it's to dh_install!!! it's being silly with my package's files
[11:22] <Em3rald> ah
[11:22] <tsmithe> Em3rald, hmm your system looks quite b0rked
[11:22] <Em3rald> tsmithe:  which is strange becuase i haven't encountered any problems at all until this little compile problem occurred.
[11:22] <tsmithe> :(
[11:23] <Em3rald> But I do in fact have quite a wacky array of wild and crazy repos and such, so it's not really a surprise.
[11:23] <Em3rald> I was || this close to doing a complete reinstall with my edgy CD, perhaps this is just my excuse to do that.
[11:25] <Em3rald> well, after a bit of muddling, I am apt-get installing ubuntu-desktop with the hopes that it can return some of my borked stuff to normal.
[11:27] <Em3rald> hehe, but before I even *think* of shutting down my system and/or rebooting for any reason, I am going to back all my critical stuff up to a separate HD, and burn a fresh copy of the Edgy installer CD.  Just in case. ROFL
[11:43] <crimsun> superm1: ping, url for source packages?
[11:43] <superm1> pong.... sure one sec let me grab it
[11:44] <superm1> crimsun, for mythtv - the bzr branch @ http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mythtv/mythtv/ubuntu and the new tarball is at http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/m/mythtv/mythtv_0.20-svn20061209.orig.tar.gz
[11:44] <superm1> crimsun, and after mythtv, mythplugins bzr branch @ http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mythtv/mythplugins/ubuntu and the new tarball is at http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/m/mythplugins/mythplugins_0.20-svn20061209.orig.tar.gz
[11:45] <crimsun> superm1: are these in response to https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2006-December/001100.html ?
[11:46] <superm1> no they weren't in response to that.  
[11:46] <superm1> i hadnt even seen that
[11:46] <superm1> i've had these ready and i've been updating them for some time, but imbrandon hasnt had time to ack them
[11:46] <superm1> and look them over
[11:48] <superm1> christian of debian multimedia has regularly been releasing updates, and i've been talking to him with some of the changes that i've been putting in too
[11:51] <crimsun> superm1: I'll look at the branch in a few moments; how does "our" branch compare with upstream's fixes branch in svn?
[11:52] <superm1> well it lags by about 3 weeks right now.  the debian packaging is all that is in our bzr branch.  all the 0.20 & svn-fixes is sitting in christian's tarball
[11:52] <crimsun> ok, as long as we have upstream's fixes branch integrated
[11:52] <superm1> yes
[11:52] <crimsun> enqueued, I'll check when I get to a coffee shop.
[11:53] <superm1> i considered jumping ahead of christian to keep up with upstream fixes branch, but i think its better to just let him grab the new fixes and follow that
[11:53] <superm1> okay
[12:00] <superm1> crimsun, i'm gonna run over to the airport to pick someone up.  if i can't manage to get online with jdong's barnacle, then email me with any comments that you have, superm1@ubuntu.com