[12:18] Later gang === kgoetz [n=kgoetz@unafilliated/kgoetz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:20] if i build a package with dpkg-buildpackage, change something then rebuild, will it pick up the changes? or do i have to remove the directory, make the changes again, then build again? === azeem [n=mbanck@host109.natpool.mwn.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:21] kgoetz: That depends on what you mean by "rebuild". [12:21] shawarma: re run dpkg-buildpackage [12:23] kgoetz: it will run the clean target of you debian/rules and build again. [12:23] kgoetz: So if the clean target does what it's supposed to, you should be fine. [12:23] shawarma: i'm modifying an existing package, so i'll hope its setup right. thanks :) === theCore [n=alex@ubuntu/member/theCore] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Storkme [n=alex@storkey.plus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:46] is this the right place to ask about developing gnome panel applets? [12:46] no. [12:46] where is? [12:46] irc.gnome.org [12:46] or ircd, I don't remember which. [12:46] ok,thanks === Storkme [n=alex@storkey.plus.com] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Perpetuating] === zul [n=bob@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ppjet6 [n=ppjet6@lns-bzn-51f-81-56-130-254.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dous [n=dous@124.107.251.142] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.64.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu === talkingwires__ [n=ben@adsl-1-139-94.clt.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TMM [n=hp@ip565b35da.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rrittenhouse [n=tad@cpe-76-188-35-66.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=bob@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:11] ello all [02:14] hey imbrandon [02:15] should i look on h.u.c or w.u.c for info on diff? (the bit in the packageing guide) [02:16] are you generating or applying a diff? [02:16] generating [02:16] then it's best to read diff(1) [02:17] cool. thanks [02:17] np === bronson_ [n=bronson@pool-71-116-237-101.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ademan [n=dan@h-67-101-97-229.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === talkingwires_ [n=ben@adsl-80-148-2.clt.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:08] hrm [03:08] is ajmitch arround ? [03:09] idle : 0 days 3 hours 48 mins 10 secs [03:09] drat [03:09] crimsun, you know anything about setting up a i386 pbuilder on amd64 [03:09] err x86_64 [03:09] i dont see any arch values [03:09] in pbuilderrc [03:10] I changed the script directly when I did it [03:10] not recommended, not the best way, etc. [03:10] i finaly got the new dualcore buildd made and installed etc [03:10] what script ? [03:10] pbuilder [03:11] ahh [03:11] hrm [03:11] imbrandon: There's a howto on the wiki. [03:11] shawarma, i seen the ones for chroots but not pbuilder [03:11] i know its similar but not the same [03:12] imbrandon: I'm quite sure it's there. Anyhow, it's a matter for passing "--debootstrapopts --arch --debootstrapopts i386" or something like that. === dous [n=dous@124.107.251.181] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:12] imbrandon: That's pretty much it. Maybe prepend the entire thing with "linux32" (install that package first). [03:13] cool, thanks for the tips [03:13] i'll look a little more [03:13] so realy after creat it will rember ? [03:13] imbrandon: Yes. [03:14] rockon , ok that works then [03:14] imbrandon: The architecture is compiled into dpkg, so on subsequent runs it will consider itself an i386 environment. === talkingwires__ [n=ben@adsl-80-148-247.clt.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:15] imbrandon: ..and passing those debootstrapopts will make it install the correct dpkg. And yes, I *do* mean "--debootstrapopts --arch --debootstrapopts i386". [03:15] right i actualy ready that somewhere else [03:15] imbrandon: It will become painfully obivous why if you try be clever about it. :-) [03:15] so it wasent totaly foreign === Burgwork [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:16] it's thanks to pbuilder being a bit ... wily about tokenizing via whitespace === zen-afk [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:17] pbuilder-feisty-i386 create --debootstrapopts --arch --debootstrapopts i386 [03:17] err [03:17] crimsun: hm? Unless "wily" means reluctant I don't see what you mean. [03:17] imbrandon: Move "create" to the end. [03:18] imbrandon: For pbuilder order of the arguments matter. [03:18] shawarma: it's sarcasm, so, yes. [03:18] shawarma, actualy i thoink you have it backwords [03:19] the action has to be first [03:19] like pbuilder login --save-after-login [03:19] :) === talkingwires [n=ben@adsl-210-72-101.clt.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:19] crimsun: Oh... It's too late/early here for sarcasm in foreign languages. === apokryphos [n=francis@84.13.229.243] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:19] imbrandon: Ah.. Yes, you're right. [03:19] imbrandon: What is pbuilder-feisty-i386 ? [03:19] a pbuilder-distrobution.sh variant [03:20] imbrandon: Oh, ok. I don't use those. I've rolled my own. :-) [03:20] Nevertheless, I'm off to bed. It's hella late here. [03:20] G'night, guys! [03:20] i've actualy done all this before with multi pbuilders set up for the users, i'm just trying to mix amd64 and i386 into the mix too this time [03:21] gnight [03:21] thanks [03:21] any time. [03:21] 'night === ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121g89.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:29] hrm [03:30] where is hobbsee when you need her [03:30] heh [03:32] crimsun, got a sec ( or the access ) to tar up a stock /var/cache/pbuilder directory ? [03:32] I don't, sorry, but you can pull it from the vmware machine, probably? [03:33] ahhh true , i forgot about that [03:33] thanks === talkingwires_ [n=ben@adsl-227-169-32.clt.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:38] Heya gang [03:39] hey :) === jsgotangco [n=greatwhi@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:39] heya bddebian and kgoetz [03:39] Heya kgoetz, imbrandon [03:39] hi imbrandon [03:45] crimsun, is there a known issue with flashplugin on edgy ? [03:45] i have the package installed but dosent show up in ff [03:45] there are many, many issues. [03:45] what dir is the actual so supose to be in, maybe the link dident make it [03:45] err it dident make the link [03:45] are you using edgy's or edgy-backports's? [03:46] plain edgy, i dont care for backports as a whole [03:46] i can cherry pick that one package if its worth it though [03:46] you probably need to update-flashplugin or whatever [03:46] k [03:47] for -backports, you'd need to dpkg-reconfigure flashplugin-nonfree [03:47] mdke ran into the latter [03:47] Heya crimsun [03:47] hi bddebian [03:47] kk === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck [n=nate@24-183-45-79.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TMM_ [n=hp@ip565b35da.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === talkingwires__ [n=ben@adsl-227-132-109.clt.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === talkingwires_ [n=ben@adsl-21-159-71.clt.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mikhail^ [n=dean@124.106.240.230] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-150-201.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lupine_85 [n=lupine@nick.lupine.me.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:15] do i use dpkg-buildpackage to use dsc's to extract source packages? === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:17] dpkg-source -x [04:18] thanks bddebian [04:18] NP [04:18] ty === lupine_85 [n=lupine@nick.lupine.me.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === conn [n=conn@83.141.127.50] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ademan [n=dan@h-67-101-97-229.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:22] apt-get build-dep firefox [05:22] err [05:23] :) [05:23] you too? :) [05:24] me too ? [05:24] the rest of us still have some measure of sanity [05:24] < imbrandon> apt-get build-dep firefox === kgoetz just did that [05:24] if you mean building ff yea, i'm trying to apply the 2.0.0.1 update [05:25] we'll see how successfull i am [05:25] heh [05:25] hheh [05:25] heya ajmitch [05:25] hello === ajmitch feels somewhat tired for some reason [05:26] hehe [05:26] ajmitch: maybe it is one of those days, I am exhausted as well [05:27] maybe it's because I spent the last 5 hours walking up one of the local hills [05:27] heya Burgundavia [05:29] kgoetz probably remembers what the hills round dunedin are like [05:29] "The hills are alive..." [05:29] ajmitch: yes, i walked a few :) === ajmitch kicks bddebian [05:30] heh [05:30] imbrandon: speaking from experience applying patches to Ubuntu firefox is almost always doomed to failure :) [05:30] you'd have better luck putting reiser4 into a grsec Xen kernel [05:30] it does build from feisty cleanly though [05:32] i'm only building FF and it takes a fwe hours. i dread to think about building openoffice === poningru [n=poningru@pool-71-251-119-157.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ppjet6 [n=ppjet6@81.56.130.254] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsg123 [n=greatwhi@121.97.210.71] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:36] jdong, i know, i've built ff quite a few times ( in and out of ubutnu ) [05:36] :) [05:36] :) [05:36] showoff :) [05:36] i've probably built ff more than the packages i "look after" [05:36] as far as {k}ubuntu [05:36] lol [05:37] its normaly one of those thing you tripple check you changes, set the build and goto bed [05:37] :) === talkingwires__ [n=ben@adsl-210-72-68.clt.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dous [n=dous@124.107.251.181] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@unaffiliated/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === conn_ [n=conn@83.141.127.50] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ppjet6 [n=ppjet6@81.56.130.254] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:53] hrm what package is filterdiff part of ? dosent seem to be installed by default [05:53] i hate reloading a build box [05:53] i need to make a mata package with all the cruft i use in it [05:53] need to save your package lists [05:54] heh yea [05:54] but i seldom reload, mostly only when i change major hardware [05:54] atleaste the build boxes [05:54] my lappy i reload once a week it seems lol === UbuntuSt1ts [n=StatsBot@bl4-221-241.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ppjet6 [n=ppjet6@lns-bzn-51f-81-56-130-254.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:55] lol [05:55] ahh patchutils [05:55] there we go [06:00] ugh crimsun still arround ? [06:00] watching the PID column in top go up. 1 build of firefox sparks a gazillion processes. its obscene [06:01] kgoetz, hehe something to give my 4 cores a workout :) [06:01] :o === FunnyLookinHat [n=david@208.69.210.194] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:01] hum it seems "filterdiff -x '*CVS*' temp.diff > newtemp.diff" [06:01] only sorta doies what i want [06:01] does [06:02] unfortunately, its not even thrashin this computer. *shrugs* as to why [06:02] that filters all the CVS chunks out except the "diff -ruN *" lines for them [06:02] :( [06:02] i guess i need to read the man a bit more [06:03] ruN... thats what i was after before. === kgoetz almost got it [06:04] hum === Ppjet6 [n=ppjet6@81.56.130.254] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ppjet6 [n=ppjet6@lns-bzn-51f-81-56-130-254.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === talkingwires_ [n=ben@adsl-146-164-124.clt.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-024-154.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:16] ugh [06:18] what is wrong imbrandon ? :( === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:21] joejaxx, CVS cruft [06:22] brandon@hood:~/devel/mozilla$ filterdiff -x '*/CVS/*' temp.diff |grep -v '^diff.*CVS' |wc -c [06:22] 2264561 [06:22] :) [06:22] imbrandon: LOL [06:22] anyhow got it fixed up now [06:22] that is good === mwolson [i=mwolson@pool-71-115-65-244.sbndin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === talkingwires__ [n=ben@adsl-157-109-201.clt.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgwork [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:16] crimsun, flashplugin from backports works fine, thanks [07:16] np. === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nolimitsoya [n=nolimits@176.139.216.81.static.vhe.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@pool-71-251-119-157.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mwolson [i=mwolson@fsf/member/mwolson] has joined #ubuntu-motu === talkingwires_ [n=ben@adsl-157-83-110.clt.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mohammad [n=mohammad@CPE001346f4a717-CM0017ee63cba8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:53] siretart: Hello === mwolson [i=mwolson@pool-71-115-65-244.sbndin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:54] mohammad: it's quite early in the morning for him. [07:55] night all [07:56] 'night [07:56] crimsun: Hello, I have uploaded to http://revu.tauware.de/index.py but I cannot login [07:59] crimsun: I am newbie to revu. Do you know what should I do to get my password? [07:59] mohammad: have you followed the directions in the topic? [08:00] http://revu.tauware.de/lostpw.py?email=your@email.tld [08:00] crimsun: Yes. right now my package is listed there. [08:01] mohammad: have you tried recovering your passwd as imbrandon suggests? [08:03] crimsun: Yes. with mderakhs@math... I singed the package. But in changelog my email is derakhshani+zekr@gmail === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:04] crimsun: Using mderakhs@math I get a message whose its decryption is "None" [08:05] crimsun: Using derakhshani+zekr@gmail I do not get any encrypted password at all [08:05] crimsun: Do you have any suggestion? === Zic_ [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:10] mohammad: use the matching e-mail [08:11] crimsun: So you mean I should compile my package again? [08:12] change the mail in the changelog and debuild -S -sa , then reupload , yes === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:12] Ok, thank you [08:12] yay, my Hobbsee-summoning wand works [08:12] hehe [08:13] heya Hobbsee [08:14] crimsun: hehe! heya [08:14] woulda been on here earlier, except my POS internet connection.... === Hobbsee kicks telstra [08:14] hey imbrandon [08:14] heya :) [08:14] crimsun: what was i being summoned for? [08:14] ah :) [08:14] (I think imbrandon needed something) === reggaemanu_ [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-172-114.w86-214.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:15] yea i had your login ready for build.imbrandon.com [08:15] got a sec Hobbsee ? === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:16] try her now, imbrandon [08:16] 01:15 < imbrandon> yea i had your login ready for build.imbrandon.com Lathiat [08:17] 01:15 < imbrandon> got a sec Hobbsee ? [08:17] gah [08:17] sorry Lathiat === elkbuntu poke Hobbsee [08:17] argh. === Hobbsee_ STOMPS ON HER INTERNET CONNECTION! [08:17] imbrandon: woot :) === Hobbsee poke elkbuntu back [08:18] imbrandon: yeah, i have a sec, if my connection holds === elkbuntu steals the long pointy stick before injurious behaviour begins [08:18] hehe [08:19] you got the imitation one that the redneck made, elky.... [08:19] Hobbsee, ssh -p5022 hobbsee@build.imbrandon.com === Hobbsee still has the proper one safely hidden for use [08:19] poor redneck^Wbrandon. [08:19] hahaha [08:19] haha [08:19] rofl [08:20] ooh, passphrase for ssh keys now :) [08:20] imbrandon: got it :) [08:20] yea ssh keys == good [08:20] indeed [08:21] ok i need to finish up the pbuilders [08:21] but thats the login info [08:21] its a x86_64 dual core 3ghz intel pentium d , 1 gig ram [08:21] JUST for building [08:21] imbrandon: nice :) [08:22] 50GB space on /storage iirc [08:22] so should be plenty [08:22] nice :) [08:22] yeah [08:22] i'm in the middle of setting up pbuilders for dapper/edgy/feisty/sid both amd64 and i386 for all [08:22] so should be able to build justa bout anything [08:23] :) === talkingwires__ [n=ben@adsl-227-130-56.clt.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:23] btw do you still have a tar with the base dirs we were using minus the base.tar.gz ? [08:23] i looked everywhere , i dident seem to back it up so i'm having to make it all over [08:24] i have all the pbuilder-* scripts [08:24] just not the /var/cache/pbuilder/* struc [08:25] imbrandon: i dont think so. [08:25] hum ok [08:25] hang on, how does that work? [08:25] does what work ? [08:25] a tar with base dirs, without the .tar.gz? [08:25] isnt the .tar.gz the tar with base dirs? [08:26] err not the base.tar.gz its self [08:26] the one with the apt.conf and aptcache and results and pbuilderrc [08:26] e.g. /var/cache/pbuilder/feisty/* on my old build box [08:26] but no base.tar.gz [08:26] ah right [08:27] oh, do i still have that.... [08:27] we had a tarbal of that somewhere i thought on buntudot iirc, but maybe not [08:27] you kinda need the base.tar.gz for that anyway [08:27] yeah, i had my config files and all that on there originally [08:27] yea but i can pbuilder create and make a new base [08:27] yeah [08:27] the other stuff is the pita to config [08:27] nah, havent for a long tiem [08:27] indeed === Hobbsee looks for a small box, that she can lock up [08:28] hum ok, so its no longer ? === Guardian [n=Guardian@ANantes-256-1-46-221.w86-199.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [08:29] nah, i dont think so === Hobbsee looks arouns [08:29] s/s/d [08:29] also i have my fast mirror publicly avail too now ( only for {edgy,feisty} and {x86,amd64,source} ) [08:30] but with -backports -security etc etc etc [08:30] imbrandon: i can copy it onto buntudot, or just pastebin my pbuilderrc [08:30] nice :) [08:31] deb{,-src} http://mirror.imbrandon.com/ubuntu edgy{,-backports,-security,-updates} main restricted universe multiverse [08:31] ^^ if anyone wants to use it [08:31] nice :) === lupine_85 [n=lupine@nick.lupine.me.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:31] imbrandon: how often is it updated? [08:31] hourly [08:32] its on a hourly cron for both edgy and feisty [08:32] useful [08:32] imbrandon: uploading [08:32] i might add dapper to it sometime [08:32] bah, what's the point? [08:33] and sid / etch maybe [08:33] just because [08:33] :) [08:34] imbrandon: uploaded to /home/sarah on your build machine [08:34] kk [08:34] cool [08:34] :) === imbrandon looks [08:34] err /home/hobbsee ? [08:35] yeah [08:35] :) === rytmisk [n=irc@81-231-105-125-no27.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rpereira [n=rpereira@20158156180.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar_ [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-74.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mikhail^ [n=dean@124.106.240.230] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dous [n=dous@124.107.251.181] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@static-ip-220-86-134-202.rev.dyxnet.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zorglu_ [n=zorglub@219.43.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying__ [n=freeflyi@static-ip-220-86-134-202.rev.dyxnet.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dous [n=dous@124.107.251.181] has joined #ubuntu-motu === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu-motu === talkingwires_ [n=ben@adsl-156-217-145.clt.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:38] great, almost all packed [10:38] ajmitch: yay! [10:38] then I can leave for 10 days! === jinty [n=jinty@vc-196-207-32-235.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:40] and there was much rejoicing in #ubuntu-motu [10:46] ajmitch, no, that happens once you're gone [10:48] I didn't think you'd be able to hold it back that long === talkingwires__ [n=ben@adsl-1-137-36.clt.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Chandu [n=Chandu@203.129.255.178] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:54] ajmitch, well... considering people here probably wont notice until you're gone... [10:56] i take it most of the devs are on holiday? [10:57] i believe so [10:57] some we may not see until the new year [10:57] i figured as much :( [10:58] i wasnt really around for this period last year.. i was still a total newb back then : === StevenK twitches, trying not to say anything. [10:59] elkbuntu: You may well get a mail from my wife and me tonight. [10:59] elkbuntu: it went quiet, just like now [10:59] haha... the year has only wiped away the 'total' part, i know [10:59] StevenK, hmm? [11:00] kgoetz, tbh, i cant say im surprised [11:00] elkbuntu: Your blog, you dork. :-P [11:00] aaaah [11:00] schweet! [11:01] there was two in the inbox this morning, thanks to the post last night [11:01] Nice! [11:01] Who from? [11:03] StevenK, PM === ajmitch would do a recording, but people are sleeping here :) [11:03] ajmitch: Then you can get them to join in! [11:03] can i ask an on topic question? [11:03] kgoetz: No. [11:03] :( [11:03] ajmitch, wake them up tomorrow morning : [11:03] On topic questions are off topic === StevenK giggles. === kgoetz goes and cries in a corner [11:04] they keep meaning to rename the channel to #ubuntu-devel-offtopic [11:04] just nobody's got round to it : [11:05] what did you want to ask, kgoetz? [11:05] how can i generate a .dsc from a changed source directory? [11:05] debuild -S [11:06] Or dpkg-source -b [11:06] maybe with -sa if you need to upload the orig.tar.gz [11:06] in the dir with the /debian/ directory, or the one above? [11:06] or mash the keyboard & see what happens [11:06] kgoetz: For ajmitch's answer, in the one above, and for mine, the one above that. [11:08] ajmitch: 's thing builds doesnt it? [11:08] or do i have to build to get the new dsc? === kgoetz is just digging for the packaging guide, so feel free to tell me to look at it [11:10] we can tell you to RTFM? excellent :) [11:10] -S doesn't build a binary package [11:10] it just runs the clean target, puts together a source package [11:10] i ask asuming i need to build a dsc to debdiff [11:11] yep === davromaniak [n=cyril@AFontenayssB-152-1-81-210.w86-218.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kgoetz starts to re-read packaging guide, long after forgetting what is in it [11:15] you'll be tested on it later [11:16] lucky your going away... it'll give me a chance to write down the answers :) === talkingwires_ [n=ben@adsl-227-130-228.clt.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:17] laserjock will welcome contributors to the guide :) === kgoetz gave feedback last time he read it... if laserjock isnt lucky, he'll get more ;) [11:19] does the debuild -S overwrite the dsc thats already in teh directory? === nolimitsoya [n=nolimits@176.139.216.81.static.vhe.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lutin_ [n=ubuntu@sd-4736.dedibox.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kgoetz marvels that firefox can take 113 cpu minutes to build. === mr_pouit [n=mrpouit@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-214-84.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:33] kgoetz: https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/288796 [11:35] :o [11:35] only 5 hours? [11:35] Heh [11:35] The powerpc build is 7 and a half hours [11:35] urgh that's longer than when i had gentoo [11:36] 5 hours for one arch? :S [11:36] Ooooh. [11:36] yeah - that can't be right [11:36] The sparc build is 11 hours === kgoetz marvels that people can stay sane doing that [11:36] night all [11:37] might see you tomorrow, if not, have a good week :) [11:37] ajmitch: Night! Enjoy your holiday away from us psychos. [11:37] later :) [11:38] cya ajmitch [11:38] how sane an option is croscompiling? [11:38] Not very. [11:39] oh well. [11:39] Doing it may well show up a myriad of compiler bugs that *will* send you insane debugging. [11:39] i dont think i'm going to do that then... i have enough trouble getting stuff building [11:39] and i'm not really making changes === tsmithe hates debugging === Lutin_ [n=ubuntu@sd-4736.dedibox.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kgoetz hates trying to 'unbreak' the firefox package in dapper === kgoetz debates emailing the debian person who made it so [11:46] He may well see the U-word and go for the throat. [11:46] true... === kgoetz might nto meantion the u word === kallewoof [n=zwoc@sundbyberg4.29.cust.blixtvik.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lutin_ [n=ubuntu@sd-4736.dedibox.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:58] if you run pbuilder update will it update all your base.gz's or just one? [11:58] pbuilder update will only update base.tgz === StevenK has a wrapper script [11:59] so only the default === kgoetz wondesr why hes getting ssl errors from h.u.c === lbm [n=lbm@82.192.173.92] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kaleo [i=boucault@arkana.iiens.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:10] are all changes are done diff.gz? debian and ubuntu? === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:16] They can't be done anywhere else, so yes. [12:17] ty [12:18] np === geser [n=michael@dialin104190.justdsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:49] hmm ... so how do i package a library? [12:50] tsmithe: seen the debian library packaging guide? [12:50] nope === tsmithe looks it up [12:50] :) [12:51] danke [12:51] :0 [12:51] * :) === jinty [n=jinty@vc-196-207-32-235.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@17-5.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PriceChild [n=PriceChi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu === guglielf [n=guglielf@unaffiliated/guglielf] has joined #ubuntu-motu === CicalaMvta [n=CicalaMv@chello080109002146.13.14.vie.surfer.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=bob@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mr_pouit [n=mrpouit@81.56.214.84] has joined #ubuntu-motu === neutrinomass [n=pandis@ppp128-80.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:00] can i turn the .diff.gz into a bunch of different diffs, or does it have to be monolithic? [02:03] has to be one. [02:03] aw. [02:03] however the contents of the .diff might be other diffs. [02:04] would i be able to just cut out difs from the main one? [02:05] well, that's doable. [02:05] heh. yes. 'just' cut out ;) [02:06] in a perferct world the .diff.gz will be the complete debian/ dir. [02:07] it should be possible to 'fake' you've got the upstream source, and just extract the files from the diff,somehow. [02:07] I haven't tried that though. [02:09] if the diff.gz contains only files in debian/ the right value for -p should do the trick === jinty [n=jinty@vc-196-207-32-235.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:12] yeah, patch -p1 will do that for you. 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=== rexbron [n=rexbron@keele-d231-244.airyork.yorku.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:54] alsa-tools needs revu'age, please: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3892 [04:55] alsa-firmware, the other, is just being fixed [04:57] where's bddebian when you need him === somerville32 [n=somervil@ubuntu/member/somerville32] has joined #ubuntu-motu === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-129-194.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === truz_`24 [n=truz_`24@74-129-166-232.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kallewoof [n=zwoc@sundbyberg4.29.cust.blixtvik.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pirast [n=martin@p508B1F9A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-64-26-148-159.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rexbron_ [n=rexbron@keele-d231-244.airyork.yorku.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lutin__ [n=ubuntu@sd-4736.dedibox.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === proppy [n=proppy@free.mekensleep.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:26] Heya gang [05:28] bddebian: hey [05:28] Heya fernando === Lutin___ [n=ubuntu@sd-4736.dedibox.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pirast [n=martin@p508B0592.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mr_pouit_ [n=mrpouit@81.56.214.84] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Toadstool [n=jcorbier@dedibox1.famille-corbier.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:35] heya Toadstool === Lutin___ is now known as LUtin_ === martin__ [n=martin@p508B0396.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:39] hey LUtin_ [05:39] hi everybody === LUtin_ is now known as Lutin_ [05:40] Heya Toadstool [05:42] hey bddebian [05:42] how is it going? [05:42] Fair to midland, thanks. You? [05:42] great! [05:43] well, I'd be better if i weren't at work :p [05:43] Heh, I hear that [05:48] hello Toadstool, hello bddebian [05:49] hey gpocentek ! [05:49] long time no see :) [05:49] how are you? [05:49] Heya gpocentek [05:49] Toadstool: fine :) [05:51] Toadstool: you seem to have become a very busy man ;) [05:51] yeah :/ [05:52] too much work during the day and so many things to do after :) [05:52] hehe === martin___ [n=martin@p508B003D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:54] ah bddebian; i need to ask you about your revu on alsa-firmware - http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3895 [05:54] i have taken care of the first point, but don't understand the second two === hyperactivecrond [n=chris@adsl-68-255-252-86.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:59] tsmithe: I don't know much about the staticly linked error unfortunately :-( [06:00] The license.txt you can just remove from debian/docs or wherever you are installing it from [06:00] i didn't know i was installing it ... [06:00] and where are you getting the statically linked error? [06:06] Running linda on the .deb [06:08] ok [06:08] but does it matter? === rrittenhouse [n=tad@cpe-76-188-35-66.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zen-afk [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:15] tsmithe: Of course [06:15] why? [06:15] Because it's an error [06:16] but what does it mean?! [06:16] well... Since it's firmware, I wouldn't worry about it. [06:16] there's nothing i can do about it [06:16] At least, that's what the path suggests it it? [06:16] yes [06:16] ?? [06:16] what? [06:16] bddebian: The path for the file is /lib/firmware/lalalalala [06:17] bddebian: ...so I'm guessing it's firmware. [06:17] it is firmware [06:17] it's the alsa-firmware package! [06:17] (but patched to move all the files to /lib/firmware where they belong) [06:17] bddebian: And apparantly it adheres to the ELF standard, and hence linda tries to see if it's statically linked, which it is. [06:18] bddebian: No biggie, IMO. [06:18] yes [06:18] shawarma, can you advocate it? :) [06:18] shawarma: So advocate it :) [06:18] bddebian, ? [06:18] Heh... I haven't looked the entire package over. [06:18] ok [06:18] well, please do [06:19] Uh, gotta run and find my power supply for my laptop before it runs out. === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=bob@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chillywilly [n=danielb@CPE-24-209-125-235.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck [n=nate@205.213.122.25] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:45] Where can we get Herd 1 isos? [06:45] cdimage.ubuntu.com [06:45] or no? [06:46] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/herd-1/ [06:46] ^ for your convenience [06:46] That'll do, thanks tsmithe === derekS [n=DerekS@unaffiliated/dereks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === derekS [n=DerekS@unaffiliated/dereks] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [06:47] :) [06:52] lol http://www.attrition.org/postal/z/033/0871.html === zul [n=bob@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:04] WTF? :) [07:12] zul: crazy people [07:15] that is hilarious [07:17] whats even funnier is we was a congressional aide :) [07:17] and got fired over the whole ordeal [07:18] Only because he was dumb enough to get caught? If he would have been better, he would have made a perfect congressman! ;-P [07:19] haha [07:19] very true === hyperactivecrond [n=chris@adsl-68-255-252-86.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Konversation] === ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121g89.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zorglu_ [n=zorglub@219.43.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=bob@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty_ [n=jinty@vc-196-207-32-235.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:43] hrm who is joey stanford ? [07:43] on irc === ajmitch shrugs [07:44] I don't recall seeing him on irc much [07:47] hrm ok [07:48] i hate it when people file erroronious bugs and then blog about how it sucks [07:49] you plan to flame him by email or public shaming on planet instead? [07:49] both :) [07:49] email already sent ( alot nastier than i will put on plant ) but i will on planet also [07:50] brb smoke break [07:51] Great idea [07:51] unprofessional [07:52] he wasn't nasty in his planet post, so public flaming & shaming on planet won't be good [07:53] no i'm just leaving him a comment telling him [07:53] what the problems were / are [07:53] flaming shaming is not very coc either :) === ajmitch wonders how the CoC made it to be a noun like that [07:54] :P [07:54] basicly it boils down to libmtp only made it into main in feisty and amarok wasent compiled with it in edgy] [07:54] yeah, I saw the comment on the kde bug [07:55] ;) === ajmitch is glad the samsung unit he got for christmas just appears as a usb mass storage device [07:55] & I can just dump .ogg files onto it & it happily plays them === Lutin__ [n=ubuntu@lns-bzn-58-82-251-218-88.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Spec [n=dragonco@charon.devis.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:55] ;) === ryanakca [i=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ubuntu_demon [n=ubuntu_d@ubuntu/member/ubuntudemon/-x-12083] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mr_pouit [n=mrpouit@lns-bzn-49f-81-56-214-84.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar_ [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Adri2000_ [n=Adri2000@unaffiliated/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mwolson [i=mwolson@pool-71-115-65-244.sbndin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:56] Seveas: do you think that the CC can happen next week or no hope? [08:56] Adri2000, no response yet from 3 out of 4 cc members :( [08:56] :( === zul [n=bob@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lutin__ is now known as Lutin_ === jinty [n=jinty@196.207.32.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@titoph.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kgoetz_ [n=kgoetz@ppp100-144.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rexbron_ [n=rexbron@keele-d161-229.airyork.yorku.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mr_pouit [n=mrpouit@81.56.214.84] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [09:43] crimsun, ping [09:53] superm1: pong === tonyyserver [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:53] OK damnit, why can't I get this Compaq Proliant to boot Feisty's kernel? I could do it in Edgy with noapic nolapic acpi=off pci=noacpi [09:53] hi crimsun. i wanted to follow up a bit about ivtv-firmware. archive admins haven't acked it, so I was wondering if I should follow up, or if its better to just wait? [09:54] superm1: it's the holidays; nothing's being processed. I'd wait until infinity returns from vacation (7 Jan?) before poking. [09:55] ah thats what i was assuming [09:55] wasn't sure though [09:57] hey folks [09:57] Heya siretart [09:57] huhu bddebian [10:00] should pbuilder be always able to build with fakeroot? is there a way to make it build with root privileges? [10:01] cos i get this: "ldconfig: Can't create temporary cache file /etc/ld.so.cache~: Permission denied" [10:01] with my library package === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tonyyserver [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:08] any way to stop it? [10:08] tsmithe: does ldconfig run as root? [10:09] well, it's in the pbuilder, but outside it does [10:11] tsmithe: from which target are you running ldconfig? [10:11] ping keescook [10:11] target in debian/rules [10:12] Hobbsee: is there a signup for the new u-u-s list? [10:12] build [10:12] superm1: likely on holidays [10:12] crimsun: as in, for the mailing list? [10:12] Hobbsee: correct [10:12] Hobbsee, ah wasn't sure. saw him sitting just in -motu [10:12] without being away [10:12] tsmithe: "The build target must not do anything that might require root privilege." from http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-source.html [10:12] or kubuntu.uusATairpost.net? [10:12] geser, ok [10:12] thanks === tsmithe fixes [10:12] crimsun: that's another of my addresses - points to the same place. [10:13] well, kubuntu.sponsors [10:13] Hobbsee: hmm, ok. perhaps we should address that now (no pun intended). [10:13] siretart: would it be possible to create a ubuntu-universe-sponsors list on tauware? [10:13] geser, sorry - it's install [10:13] can install do it? [10:13] crimsun: iv'e emailed the canonical admin person address thing that i got given, but no reply as yet - holidays [10:14] Hobbsee: ah, ok. [10:15] it doesn't say it can't [10:15] tsmithe: it should be possible from the install target === tonyyserver [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:16] sooo... why does pbuilder die? [10:18] why are you running ldconfig during build? [10:18] or install? [10:21] install [10:21] to set up the library [10:21] i thought it was necessary [10:22] yes, but this change can't be "packaged" [10:22] oh of course [10:23] yes [10:23] grep ldconfig /var/lib/dpkg/info/* [10:23] i'll run it in postinst === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Sp4rKy [n=maxenced@ubuntu/member/sp4rky] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:34] hi [10:35] siretart: around ? === PriceChild [n=PriceChi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:35] jepp [10:37] siretart: i get a strange error with revu [10:37] interdiff: fork failed: Resource temporarily unavailable [10:38] interdiff doesn't seems to work [10:38] and i don't know why [10:38] uh? [10:38] do you have ressource quotas in /etc/security/limits.conf? [10:38] Is tiber running out of processes? [10:39] it's not on tiber, but on my revu ^^ [10:39] Ah [10:39] Is the machine running out of processes? :-) [10:39] siretart: and i've nothing on limits.conf [10:40] StevenK: nop [10:40] well, if fork fails, it looks like that.. [10:40] strange [10:43] Stupid ass Compaq server === fowlduck- [n=nate@24-183-45-79.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:43] :p === cypherbios [n=cypher@ubuntu/member/cypherbios] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:44] why do i get this: dh_install: libresample-dev missing files (usr/include/*), aborting [10:44] if i get this: cp -f resample.h /tmp/buildd/libresample-0.1.3/debian/tmp/usr/include === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-252-237-96.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:45] crimsun, would you be able to look over a new upstream version i have packaged for mythtv since imbrandon hasn't been around? [10:49] superm1: in ~20 mins, yes; please ping me then. [10:49] okay will do [10:49] hmm alsa-* still needs revu'age... === Em3rald [n=irelandm@dsl-main-66-18-221-110-gib.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:52] alsa* is very low on my list atm. I have several hundred bugs to triage & coordinate w/ upstream. [10:52] you, too, can lose your mind if you wish to join in! [10:52] I welcome volunteers! [10:52] haha [10:53] they'll run away! [10:53] rather, they stay away, but correct nonetheless [10:53] yeah - sounds like a pain [10:53] Heya Hobbsee, hows that love-wiki going? hehe ;) === tsmithe runs away [10:54] Anyhow, I was instructed to come here and seek a little help with a small compiling error that I cannot muddle through. [10:55] checking for PYGTK... no and then I get configure: error: You need pygtk >=2.4 and the appropriate development headers to proceed [10:55] tsmithe: I'd rather not be doing this by myself, since in about 9 months my involvement will be curtailed drastically. [10:56] Now, if I use synaptic to try to install python-gnome2-desktop-dev: [10:56] Depends: python-gtk2-dev but it is not going to be installed [10:56] crimsun, oh dear: why is that? [10:56] tsmithe: I'm headed to west Africa [10:56] how come? [10:56] work? [10:56] Peace Corps [10:56] hmm. sounds fun? [10:57] Em3rald: haha. you're writing it [10:57] Em3rald: then install python-gtk2-dev too [10:58] Hobbsee: I was afraiid you'd say that. Oh, and I tried python-gtk2-dev, but I get further similar errors with "not going to be installed" [10:58] it is rather confusing to me. [10:58] she's gone [10:58] cack [10:58] I just noticed. [10:59] Em3rald: you need to go down to the real problem [10:59] Em3rald: You just need to follow it down the chain. python-gnome2-desktop-dev won't be installed because python-gtk2-dev can't be installed, so you try and install why python-gtk2-dev can't be installed. [10:59] python-gtk2-dev should be installable without problems [10:59] Okay, I figured as much, but I am not entirely sure what the root of the problem is. [11:00] Em3rald: The root of the problem will be evident when apt/dpkg stops saying "will not be installed" and gives a real reason. [11:00] could someone possibly help me figure this out: why do i get this: dh_install: libresample-dev missing files (usr/include/*), aborting [11:00] if i get this: cp -f resample.h /tmp/buildd/libresample-0.1.3/debian/tmp/usr/include [11:01] hehe, okay, so just keep trying to install things one at a time down the chain then, eh? Alright. I'll keep you posted with anything interesting. Thanks fer da help :D [11:02] StevenK: I vaguely remember (via scrollback) that you ran into serpentine's "not enough space in tmp dir" issue; did you find a workaround? === fowlduck- [n=nate@24-183-45-79.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:05] Okay folks, so I went back a whole bunch through the chain and came to this, and I dont know how to go further: libfreetype6-dev: Depends: libfreetype6 (=2.1.10-1ubuntu2.2) but 2.2.1-0ubuntu1 is to be installed [11:06] mismatched/missing distribution components? [11:07] It looks like I am downgrading something somehow. Hmm ........... now I am thinking perhaps you might be right crimsun. Hrrm. [11:07] apt-cache policy libfreetype6 === Em3rald scratches his head ... did he or did he not upgrade to edgy .... === Spec [n=dragonco@ubuntu/member/spec] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:09] no, you didn't. [11:09] hmm [11:09] edgy has the same version that feisty has, which is 2.2.1-5 [11:09] you have a third-party repository that is screwing you [11:10] Oooh, that could be indeed. [11:10] Perhaps it's Seveas' repo. [11:10] ? [11:10] the apt-cache policy command will reveal more. [11:10] hehe, I just thought I would blame it on you since you are here. [11:11] crimsun: alright, what in particular am I looking for in this output? [11:11] Em3rald, I don't have packages that are in ubuntu proper as well [11:11] Em3rald: pastebin it [11:11] crimsun, alright. [11:13] http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/846729 [11:13] right, you have some random libfreetype6 package. Forcibly remove it, then apt-get -f install [11:14] forcibly remove as in apt-get remove, correct? [11:15] Yoy, I am thinking not. LOL, it removes all kinds of other stuff that I highly doubt should be removed. [11:16] dpkg -P --force-Ddepends libfreetype6 [11:16] without the random capitalised 'D' [11:17] ah yes :D [11:18] crimsun, now good? [11:18] a scary thing is happening .... after the dpkg (which was fine), I did the install -f, but it's removing like everything ... {shudder} [11:19] superm1: no [11:19] ook [11:19] busy w/ alsa support issues. [11:19] not a problem. i'll stick around for a hour or so more, if you get a moment go ahead and ping me, elsewise i'll catch up with ya later today [11:20] or tomorrow [11:20] argh! stupid dh_install!!! [11:21] tsmithe: is that to me? and here's the pastebin of the proposed changes to my system: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/846732 [11:21] no - it's to dh_install!!! it's being silly with my package's files [11:22] ah [11:22] Em3rald, hmm your system looks quite b0rked === marcin_ant [n=marcin@194.114.146.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:22] tsmithe: which is strange becuase i haven't encountered any problems at all until this little compile problem occurred. [11:22] :( [11:23] But I do in fact have quite a wacky array of wild and crazy repos and such, so it's not really a surprise. [11:23] I was || this close to doing a complete reinstall with my edgy CD, perhaps this is just my excuse to do that. === lotusleaf [n=lotuslea@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:25] well, after a bit of muddling, I am apt-get installing ubuntu-desktop with the hopes that it can return some of my borked stuff to normal. [11:27] hehe, but before I even *think* of shutting down my system and/or rebooting for any reason, I am going to back all my critical stuff up to a separate HD, and burn a fresh copy of the Edgy installer CD. Just in case. ROFL [11:43] superm1: ping, url for source packages? [11:43] pong.... sure one sec let me grab it [11:44] crimsun, for mythtv - the bzr branch @ http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mythtv/mythtv/ubuntu and the new tarball is at http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/m/mythtv/mythtv_0.20-svn20061209.orig.tar.gz [11:44] crimsun, and after mythtv, mythplugins bzr branch @ http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mythtv/mythplugins/ubuntu and the new tarball is at http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/m/mythplugins/mythplugins_0.20-svn20061209.orig.tar.gz [11:45] superm1: are these in response to https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2006-December/001100.html ? [11:46] no they weren't in response to that. [11:46] i hadnt even seen that === Em3rald [n=irelandm@dsl-main-66-18-221-110-gib.nucleus.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [11:46] i've had these ready and i've been updating them for some time, but imbrandon hasnt had time to ack them [11:46] and look them over === azeem [n=mbanck@host109.natpool.mwn.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pirast [n=martin@p508B003D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lotusleaf [n=lotuslea@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has left #ubuntu-motu ["trombone"] [11:48] christian of debian multimedia has regularly been releasing updates, and i've been talking to him with some of the changes that i've been putting in too === giskard [n=giskard@213-140-22-74.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:51] superm1: I'll look at the branch in a few moments; how does "our" branch compare with upstream's fixes branch in svn? [11:52] well it lags by about 3 weeks right now. the debian packaging is all that is in our bzr branch. all the 0.20 & svn-fixes is sitting in christian's tarball [11:52] ok, as long as we have upstream's fixes branch integrated [11:52] yes [11:52] enqueued, I'll check when I get to a coffee shop. [11:53] i considered jumping ahead of christian to keep up with upstream fixes branch, but i think its better to just let him grab the new fixes and follow that [11:53] okay === fowlduck- [n=nate@24-183-45-79.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:00] crimsun, i'm gonna run over to the airport to pick someone up. if i can't manage to get online with jdong's barnacle, then email me with any comments that you have, superm1@ubuntu.com === jikanter [n=jordan@dhcp-225-26.eastdorm.uic.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dous [n=dous@124.105.152.125] has joined #ubuntu-motu