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| hj | hello, anybody here ? | 05:51 |
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| kgoetz | hi | 05:52 |
| hj | oh.. hi kgoetz.. | 05:54 |
| kgoetz | :\ | 05:54 |
| hj | i had several questions but the wiki allready solved them | 05:54 |
| hj | im doing a research for a proyect of the world bank focused in mexico | 05:55 |
| hj | innovation to reduce poverty... | 05:55 |
| kgoetz | :) | 05:55 |
| hj | i was trying to find out if it was possible to create customized livecd focused on children | 05:55 |
| hj | and so it happens it does.... | 05:55 |
| hj | do you think that it would possible to sponsor a specific distribution of edubuntu ? | 05:56 |
| kgoetz | sponsor a derivative of edubuntu? | 05:56 |
| hj | yup | 05:57 |
| hj | yes sponsor "pay" some developers to create e costum version for edubuntu | 05:57 |
| hj | for this specific project of the world bank | 05:57 |
| kgoetz | i dont know, depending on what you want to derive for it might be better to help them build edubuntu | 05:57 |
| kgoetz | hm.well | 05:57 |
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| kgoetz | if you choose to sponsor devs, tahts your call. | 05:57 |
| kgoetz | how you go about that, i dont know, but it is ok | 05:58 |
| kgoetz | hi crimsun | 05:58 |
| crimsun | 'lo. | 05:58 |
| kgoetz | :) | 05:58 |
| hj | well in brief... the proyect intends to involve young people in an innovative way to help reduce poverty... | 05:59 |
| hj | the country in which the proyect will be held is mexico | 06:00 |
| hj | most of the poverty problemas in mexico is because people lack of access to information, hence they are not able to develop new skills | 06:00 |
| hj | the idea behind this proposal for the proyect is to give children livecd and equip schools and parks with very low cost terminals | 06:01 |
| hj | in this way in cooperation with schools... children could learn to develop skills and have access to knowledge | 06:01 |
| kgoetz | sounds like what netday (sp?) in south africa | 06:02 |
| hj | well yes.. in some way... mexico has very similar conditions of poverty of african and some Asiatic countries | 06:03 |
| hj | this livecd is one of the possible proposals, the second one is a children version of wikipedia | 06:04 |
| hj | although it might require greater funds | 06:04 |
| kgoetz | hj: how far do you think you would have to derive from edubuntu? or are you just trying to find ideas at the moment? | 06:04 |
| hj | well i found that many of the applications needed allready exist... | 06:05 |
| hj | hold sec please | 06:05 |
| kgoetz | np | 06:05 |
| hj | im back | 06:06 |
| hj | apps such as KDE Edutainment Pack | 06:06 |
| kgoetz | you would want them included? | 06:07 |
| hj | yup | 06:07 |
| hj | i think NEW development wouldnt be necesarry at least at the first phase... | 06:07 |
| hj | just tons of costumization... | 06:07 |
| kgoetz | sounds like you want to derive quite a way off a standard cd | 06:08 |
| hj | the real challenge would be to teach teachers how to use the tools, and get some infraestructure for centralized information | 06:08 |
| hj | do you think this is a big problem ? | 06:08 |
| kgoetz | not as such. | 06:09 |
| hj | i've only used slax, im quite new in this opensource OS world | 06:09 |
| hj | never the less in new developments and similar | 06:09 |
| kgoetz | i'm not a dev, so i cant comment on the current state of edubuntu and whats in it | 06:09 |
| kgoetz | ogra is the man to ping on that front | 06:09 |
| hj | graet.. ill make sure to organize more ideas and contact him.. | 06:10 |
| hj | .do you have any other ideas ? | 06:10 |
| kgoetz | hj: try emailling the edubuntu/ubuntu-education lists | 06:11 |
| kgoetz | and see if you can catch RichEd-1 as well | 06:11 |
| hj | thanks a lot.. | 06:12 |
| hj | and how are you involved in the proyect ? | 06:12 |
| kgoetz | np. hope it helped | 06:12 |
| kgoetz | edubuntu? i used to run it on some of my computers, not i hang around to ask indirectly related questions | 06:13 |
| kgoetz | and because i hope to start getting edubuntu into schools here | 06:13 |
| hj | and where are you located ? | 06:13 |
| kgoetz | Australia | 06:14 |
| hj | and what has been your experience ? | 06:14 |
| kgoetz | with eduubuntu? i used the 6.06 release, and it worked well. | 06:15 |
| hj | and how have schools recieved it ? | 06:15 |
| kgoetz | i'm hoping for a less 'childish' version, for middle/upper school | 06:15 |
| kgoetz | i havent deplyed it here yet. i want to do it properly first time ;) | 06:15 |
| hj | yes, precisly, a distribution for students 12 - 18 would be perfect for my project | 06:17 |
| kgoetz | hj: i know there was talks of work on one, i just dont know how it went | 06:17 |
| kgoetz | perhaps if you can work with edubuntu, you can wortk with them to make the version | 06:17 |
| hj | I have to live for now Karl, but i appreciate a lot your help... i'll et you know of i have any success on promoting edubuntu in mexico and the world bank.. | 06:20 |
| hj | if the world bank likes it i could get some funds... | 06:21 |
| hj | i gotta move from location... maybe ill return later... | 06:21 |
| hj | thansk | 06:21 |
| kgoetz | good luck hd | 06:21 |
| kgoetz | *hj | 06:21 |
| kgoetz | look forward to see ing you again | 06:21 |
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| ry0672 | hi all | 09:04 |
| hj | hi there | 09:05 |
| ry0672 | anyone up? | 09:05 |
| ry0672 | hey | 09:05 |
| ry0672 | got a question | 09:05 |
| hj | im kinda in here, but im a complete neophyte... jajaj im afraid i cant answer much | 09:05 |
| ry0672 | k | 09:05 |
| hj | jajaja but shoot, im sure between the both of us can find an answer in the wiki and docs | 09:05 |
| ry0672 | thanx | 09:06 |
| ry0672 | I want to install edubuntu for my sister's daugher that's 9 years old | 09:06 |
| kgoetz | ry0672: you should ask a question, if someone can help, they will | 09:06 |
| ry0672 | i c | 09:06 |
| ry0672 | better yet is edubuntu a safe OS for young children? | 09:07 |
| ry0672 | I am looking for some way that restricts young kids from accessing say prOn sites and the like | 09:08 |
| ry0672 | is edubuntu the way to go? Or should I be looking elsewhere? | 09:08 |
| hj | whoa, i belive than regardless the OS you use the real danger is in the web outhere... if edubuntu (please confirm) doesnt come with a type of firewall o contrnol access system you would liek to get one... | 09:09 |
| kgoetz | you could put filters in place, but i havent tried | 09:09 |
| hj | does edubuntu come with parental control out of the box ? | 09:09 |
| kgoetz | 606 didnt, i dont know about 6.10 | 09:10 |
| ry0672 | filters, good guess I can do a search on that | 09:10 |
| ry0672 | "parental control" ty thats what i meant to ask | 09:11 |
| ry0672 | brb gotta google,lol | 09:11 |
| kgoetz | if you dont mind some confiuration, theres squid+[chastitybelt,dans gardian] | 09:11 |
| ry0672 | I C... squid+[chastitybelt,dans gardian] | 09:12 |
| kgoetz | ry0672: do you have ubuntu/edubuntu installed at the moment? | 09:13 |
| ry0672 | no, I have Ubuntu on my laptop, and i'm currently on my gf's pc and am dl'ing the edubuntu Live CD | 09:14 |
| kgoetz | http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/web/dansguardian | 09:14 |
| ry0672 | WoW | 09:14 |
| ry0672 | TY | 09:14 |
| kgoetz | http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/web/squid | 09:14 |
| ry0672 | nice | 09:14 |
| kgoetz | have a look around packages.ubuntu.com if you want to see whats in it :) or look in synaptic | 09:15 |
| ry0672 | again thanx | 09:15 |
| kgoetz | np | 09:16 |
| ry0672 | will do! | 09:16 |
| kgoetz | :) | 09:16 |
| hj | uu squid is really something i used to recomend it for local goverment agencies.. | 09:16 |
| kgoetz | hj: meaning you like it, or you think its to big? | 09:20 |
| hj | both.. | 09:22 |
| hj | but i've never tried it in a closed envoriment ... maybe it can work well | 09:22 |
| kgoetz | i dont know much about filtering proxies - i aimed to educate users at work, rather then block them | 09:22 |
| kgoetz | and slap them about now and then if i find bad stuff happening | 09:22 |
| kgoetz | mind you, my work isnt a big corp, so there is some room to manouver | 09:23 |
| hj | well, as long its a local network squid should be able to do a great job... | 09:23 |
| hj | im unsure about the same computer that runs as server should be a client itself, even more if its for a child... | 09:24 |
| hj | but for a small network of even 3 - 5 computers squid gets the job pretty good... | 09:25 |
| kgoetz | i dont feel sane sugesting someone increase their network complexity - i'm happy to, but i dont like recomending it to someone who just wants a childenres comp. | 09:25 |
| hj | exactly | 09:25 |
| hj | uuuh.... "DansGuardian requires squid or another similar caching proxy server on your local network." | 09:26 |
| kgoetz | yep. | 09:27 |
| hj | and DansGuardian seems to capsulate more funtions suchs as AV with clam... | 09:27 |
| hj | seems more like a "smart" frontend to various components... | 09:28 |
| hj | i would try densguardian.... | 09:28 |
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| hj | Ubuntu Christian Edition also includes fully integrated web content parental controls powered by Dansguardian. A graphical tool to adjust the parental control settings has also been developed specifically for Ubuntu Christian Edition. These features are truly what sets Ubuntu Christian Edition apart. | 10:12 |
| hj | If this guys did it im sure you can manage to do something | 10:13 |
| hj | ups... he is gone ... | 10:13 |
| kgoetz | wonder if we have poached that frontend yet | 10:14 |
| hj | kgoetz: so, what is it that you do for a living ? | 10:34 |
| kgoetz | hj: i have been living off my savings. (ie not earning a living). i work as a volunteer for several groups | 10:36 |
| kgoetz | and for the next 6 months i'll be a full time student | 10:36 |
| kgoetz | perhaps with a 3 week visit to papua new guinea to setup a network over there using ubuntu+debian | 10:37 |
| hj | WOW... | 10:42 |
| hj | i've never been there, but it sounds as if they have a lot of new world - old world cutlures | 10:43 |
| kgoetz | 'full time student' - i'll probalby get half the course or more on recognition for prior learning | 10:43 |
| hj | how old are you ? | 10:43 |
| kgoetz | the trip will be pretty intence if i get to go | 10:43 |
| kgoetz | 20 | 10:43 |
| hj | okz | 10:43 |
| hj | thats pretty cool, being able to travel and work as a volunteer | 10:44 |
| kgoetz | yeh. i'v been volunteering for 2 years already | 10:44 |
| kgoetz | i'll have to cut back when i get real work though :\ | 10:44 |
| kgoetz | s/real/paid | 10:45 |
| kgoetz | i have to break that habit. its real work wether i get money or not | 10:46 |
| hj | yes indeed, but anyways... we must do it while we can.. (no family to take care of) | 10:46 |
| kgoetz | h'm | 10:47 |
| hj | most of my time and hobbies are currently sponsored by a media lab, located in mexico... | 10:47 |
| hj | restatemedia.com restatemedia.net | 10:47 |
| hj | i get enough money for a living, but i really need to get more income before i get old and start needed more money | 10:47 |
| hj | but hey... its a great way to spend time.. volunteering | 10:48 |
| kgoetz | brb in a few min | 10:48 |
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| kgoetz | just making food. will be a bit longer | 10:58 |
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| kgoetz | ffs. i needed info on that shell. it died ;( | 11:18 |
| kgoetz | must have been the blackout | 11:18 |
| hj | ? | 11:18 |
| kgoetz | hj: i was logged into a shell before. the host has gone down. | 11:19 |
| kgoetz | it only goes down when the UPS runs out. | 11:19 |
| hj | oooh | 11:19 |
| hj | i'll get a new "old laptop" just to play around with edubuntu | 11:22 |
| hj | or maybe i'll just go straight fwd to compile a customized liveUSB.. | 11:23 |
| artbird309 | What would be better to install for a server at school edubuntu or ubuntu it is for a 150 seats desktops? | 11:24 |
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| kgoetz | artbird309: what age group? | 11:24 |
| artbird309 | kgoetz: 6-12 | 11:24 |
| kgoetz | try edubuntu | 11:25 |
| cbx33 | hey peeps | 11:25 |
| hj | I read somewhere you could create quizes with some package, has anyone tried it ? | 11:25 |
| artbird309 | kgoetz: does that have all the stuff that ubuntu server has | 11:25 |
| cbx33 | artbird309, the base installs of both are largely similar | 11:26 |
| cbx33 | what are you after specifically? | 11:26 |
| artbird309 | I ldap sever with samba | 11:26 |
| artbird309 | I think I am open for a better set-up | 11:27 |
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| cbx33 | hi ogra | 12:57 |
| cbx33 | bye ogra | 12:57 |
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| bddebian | Heya | 03:41 |
| rockprincess | hey | 03:47 |
| bddebian | Whoa, a Princess? :) | 03:48 |
| rockprincess | yep ;) | 03:48 |
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| rockprincess | heheh ;) | 04:00 |
| rockprincess | sweet! | 04:00 |
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| sorl | (locally) | 05:58 |
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